[03:49] <ftsf_> hi, is it possible to make an instance shutdown/terminate itself if any cloudinit steps fail?
[17:02] <themadcanudist> hey guys. I was wondering. Is it possible to have a cloudstack datasource configured w/ appropriate cloud_*_modules and have it only work when it detects itself on a cloudstack environment? Currently, it takes like 2 minutes for cloud-init to timeout if the template is booted elsewhere
[17:02] <themadcanudist> what are some best-practices for dealing with this. My CI builds images for all sorts of things and I configure cloud-init quite early in the process for a whole range of optiosn.
[17:03] <themadcanudist> Even shortening the timeout from 2 minutes to something more reasonable woudl help
[18:21] <themadcanudist> anyone around?


[00:17] <gNewPower>  Hi, how can I get the UUID of my swap partition (I need to edit /etc/fstab and enter a new swap UUID)?
[00:19] <zoredache> hrm.. do you know the current device name for the partion /dev/hdc?
[00:19] <zoredache> you could just put in the device name...
[00:19] <TheSheep> gNewPower: I'd just give it a label and use that
[00:19] <TheSheep> gNewPower: or run /usr/lib/udev/migrate-fstab-to-uuid.sh
[00:20] <gNewPower> what does /usr/lib/udev/migrate-fstab-to-uuid.sh do?
[00:20] <TheSheep> gNewPower: I have no idea
[00:21] <TheSheep> gNewPower: the second line of it might give you some hints though
[00:22] <zoredache> ah, I remeber now... use vol_id and the device name to get the uuid
[00:22] <TheSheep> zoredache: I think swap doesn't have uuid by default
[00:23] <zoredache> hrm...
[00:23] <TheSheep> zoredache: that script seems to generate it for swap partitions
[00:32] <zoredache> Can give me a quick example of extracting the contents of a cpio archive?
[00:34] <TheSheep> cpio -i -d < archive
[00:35] <zoredache> ah, great! thanks
[00:41] <zoredache> argh!!!  caspar is not casper
[00:42] <zoredache> we need more words so people can give things better names
[00:43] <TheSheep> I just came up with a cool name for a python module, for example
[00:43] <TheSheep> pykachu
[00:44] <TheSheep> not sure what it would be for, some gaming probably
[00:44] <danielm_> xD
[00:45] <zoredache> I have been reading the caspar docs for the last hour trying to figure out what it had to do with building livecd....  Turns out it has nothing to do with building livecds
[00:45] <zoredache> for that you want casper
[00:46] <TheSheep> caspyr could be a python version...
[00:46] <TheSheep> :D
[00:58] <sven> hey all, I've got a problem
[00:58] <bittin> !ask
[00:58] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:58] <sven> How do I enable a second video card?
[00:59] <zoredache> !dualhead
[00:59] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:00] <sven> ok, and how do I see my hardware information w/o GDM?
[01:00] <zoredache> of course in a perfect world it might be as easy as going to settings->displays and clicking a few buttons
[01:00] <zoredache> sorry... settings->screens+graphics rather...
[01:00] <sven> yeah, plug'n'play is pretty handy, when it's applicable
[01:01] <zoredache> I don't understand what you mean by see your hardware without gdm
[01:02] <sven>  a hardware manager, I can't find one in the menu
[01:02] <sven> I'm using fluxbox
[01:02] <TheSheep> sven: lspci or hwinfo should give you information in terminal
[01:04] <sven> ty, I'll bb if I can't figure it out
[01:32] <brynjolf> How do I run compiz and use xfwm4 for window decorations? Right now it goes back to metacity
[01:33] <TheSheep> brynjolf: you can't, afaik
[01:34] <brynjolf> ah, thats a shame
[01:35] <brynjolf> is it a case of me not understand what xfwm4 does or more that it isnt implemented?
[01:36] <Stroganoff> brynjolf: sudo apt-get install emerald
[01:36] <Stroganoff> emerald is the window manager of compiz
[01:37] <darthanubis> REALLY?
[01:37] <darthanubis> I thought metacity was
[01:38] <darthanubis> although one could use emerald
[01:38] <darthanubis> compiz does not come with emerald
[01:38] <Stroganoff> okay maybe metacity is getting composite features, too
[01:38] <brynjolf> not too fond of emerald to be honest
[01:38] <brynjolf> I'll just use gdm themes from xfce with metacity then :)
[01:39] <Stroganoff> metacity and emerald are your only choices i'm afraid
[01:39] <brynjolf> Thank you TheSheep and Stroganoff for your answers anyhow!
[01:39] <Stroganoff> ;)
[02:24] <m1r> hi
[02:24] <m1r> i lost taskbars from desktop, anyone know a way to restore them ?
[02:25] <TheSheep> press alt+f2 and type xfce4-panel
[02:33] <darthanubis> wow
[02:33] <darthanubis> guess that worked?
[02:34] <Tu13es> how can I keep them from opening?
[02:35] <m1r> TheSheep: many tnx for help, it is working now
[02:39] <freerise> where in etc are the login fortunes? so i can make them -x
[02:39] <gaurdro> 'slocate fortune'?
[02:47] <freerise> heh, only 10 more hours to get/upgrade everything with synaptic
[03:02] <freerise> i have 3 disk connected, i wonder why hal doesn't see sdd. it sees sda and sdc alright
[03:05] <darthanubis> what happens in 10hrs?
[03:05] <darthanubis> are those disks in fstab?
[03:08] <freerise> darthanubis: no, just sdc
[03:08] <freerise> i mean sda
[03:08] <darthanubis> well add them to the fstab?
[03:09] <freerise> cfdisk cant locate the darn thing
[03:09] <darthanubis> are you reading me?
[03:09] <darthanubis> edit the fstab
[03:10] <freerise> i just wanted to mount it to cp some stuff
[03:10] <darthanubis> you saying the hardware is not recognized by the pc?
[03:10] <freerise> yes
[03:10] <darthanubis> does your bios see the drives?
[03:10] <freerise> slackware sees the same disk fine
[03:11] <darthanubis> what does hdparm reveal?
[03:11] <freerise> yes
[03:11] <darthanubis> lshw?
[03:13] <freerise>  hdparm /dev/sdd
[03:13] <freerise> /dev/sdd: No such file or directory
[03:13] <freerise> udev hates me
[03:13] <darthanubis> are these removeable drives?
[03:14] <freerise> pata internals
[03:14] <darthanubis> sdc sdd sde?
[03:15] <freerise> sda sdc and sdd
[03:15] <darthanubis> have you tried editing the fstab to add those devs?
[03:16] <freerise> my cd and dvd's and on the motherboard connectors
[03:16] <darthanubis> can you answer that question?
[03:17] <freerise> not yet. i'll try it
[03:18] <freerise> yes
[03:19] <freerise> 'have i tried editing my fstab to add those devs?'  not yet
[03:19] <freerise> seems the fstab is screwed up, just a sec
[03:19] <gNewPower> could somebody please explain this line (output form a mount command) to me: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)?  what's this about errors remounting the partition in read only?!
[03:24] <freerise> http://pastebin.ca/987914  < /etc/fstab
[03:25] <darthanubis> gNewPower, googel ext3 and read up
[03:25] <darthanubis> if thats too much, its nothing to worry about
[03:25] <gNewPower> darthanubis: ok. thanks
[03:25] <darthanubis> simply means if there are errors found, it will be mount read only
[03:25] <darthanubis> to prevent further damage
[03:26] <darthanubis> but plz do read up
[03:26] <darthanubis> anything you find just paste into google and go for it
[03:26] <gNewPower> I understood that, but does he journalling not repair the errors?  how do you repair something which is mounted ro?
[03:26] <Stroganoff> gNewPower what have you done?
[03:26] <gNewPower> Stroganoff: what do you mean?
[03:26] <darthanubis> you'll get an answer much quicker than loggin in to irc, asking, waiting
[03:26] <darthanubis> etc
[03:26] <gNewPower> darthanubis: ok
[03:27] <darthanubis> :)
[03:29] <Stroganoff> gNewPower you can use knoppix or some other live-distro to repair your fstab or ext3
[03:30] <gNewPower> sure, but I don't think that anything is wrong with my system.  Everything is mounted rw
[03:30] <Stroganoff> k
[03:30] <gNewPower> I booted of this partition.
[03:30] <gNewPower> no problems.
[03:31] <gNewPower> I think that this is just some kind of "if errors then" which I do not understand
[03:31] <Stroganoff> that is an mount argument in fstab
[03:31] <Stroganoff> it means: if errors, remount with read-only (ro)
[03:32] <gNewPower> ok. I see that. but  does the journalling of ext3 not repair the errors?  how do you repair something which is mounted ro?
[03:32] <Stroganoff> there are more kinds of errors than data corruption
[03:33] <Stroganoff> for instance if you mount it with invalid arguments
[03:33] <gNewPower> Stroganoff: oh, ok.  Well, thanks for the explanation!
[03:33] <gNewPower> Stroganoff: its the third time you have pointed me towards a solution.  Thanks a lot!
[03:34] <gNewPower> bye everybody.
[03:35] <freerise> it seems i need to learn how to get my UUID for the hd to be able to add it to fstab
[03:35] <kenneth1> anyone know if xubuntu releases simultaneously with ubuntu?
[03:36] <kenneth1> for example, since ubuntu 8.04 is scheduled to release on Apr 24th, will xubuntu8.04 be available then as well?
[03:38] <freerise> i'll work on this disk thing later, getting tired. later all
[03:39] <kenneth1> freerise: can you answer my question?
[03:39] <kenneth1> I guess I'll take that as a no
[03:42] <Stroganoff> kenneth1: yes they do
[03:43] <kenneth1> Stroganoff: so I should expect xu* 8.04 on the 24th as well?
[03:43] <Stroganoff> redundancyyyy
[03:43] <Stroganoff> yes
[04:50] <j1mc> hey maxamillion
[04:52] <maxamillion> hello j1mc
[04:52] <maxamillion> j1mc: how goes it?
[04:54] <j1mc> hey, i'm ok
[04:54] <j1mc> kinda tired.  getting ready for bed.
[04:55] <j1mc> how are you?
[04:55] <maxamillion> j1mc: doing well, just poking around doing a little research at the moment .... about to read some more of my minix3 book before bed
[04:56] <j1mc> ah, ok.  cool
[04:57] <maxamillion> j1mc: in a month i will be moving somewhere that has a real internet connection so i hope to be able to help a little with bug triage (though, i can't promise too much)
[04:57] <j1mc> sure.  no worries.  :)
[04:58] <maxamillion> i'm actually really glad cody took over the project, that's a large part of the reason i will be coming back to help out
[04:58] <j1mc> it wouldn't be volunteering if you were made to do it.  ... someone told me that one time when i was only helping out sporadically on a project.
[04:58] <maxamillion> lol, good way to look at it
[05:01] <maxamillion> well the people in #kde are about as helpful as a brick
[06:32] <homebrewcider> got a new video card installed, what do I need to do? Anything?
[07:55] <arualavi> is anyoune using recent alternate iso cd install with spain keyboard?
[07:55] <arualavi> */anyone
[10:26] <mistform> hai
[10:27] <mistform> arualavi, how different is the spain keyboard?
[10:30] <mistform> lol
[10:31] <arualavi> mistform: it depends to what compares to
[10:31] <arualavi> mistform: maybe the keyboard aren't important what the keyboard map used
[10:31] <mistform> maybe you should play The Lord Archmage and help them translate. I can understand most of it, but some is a mess of accented characters
[10:32] <mistform> arualavi, subtle hints are for the weak minds
[10:32] <mistform> i'm sure there is a way to edit the keyboard map, I'm wondering how hard it would be for you if you went from Spain to US layout
[10:34] <arualavi> mistform: I don't know. I never used a US keyboard layout.
[10:34] <arualavi> what i'm traying to confirm is a bug with debian-installer and spain keyboard
[10:34] <arualavi> i can't write accented characters
[10:35] <arualavi> àáèéìó...
[10:35] <mistform> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418453
[10:35] <mistform> that may help you a little
[10:35] <mistform> i don't even use xubuntu
[10:35] <mistform> i use ubuntu, but I haven't even had that rig running for a month now
[10:36] <mistform> I'm here for a friend. I'm just trying to help you with basic troubleshooting.
[10:38] <mistform> arualavi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout
[10:39] <arualavi> mistform: thank you but i don't have problems with my keyboard layout once xubuntu is installed.
[10:39] <mistform> so the LiveCD has the errors?
[10:40] <mistform> [00:55] <arualavi> is anyone using recent alternate iso cd install with spain keyboard?
[10:40] <mistform> I thought you meant after the install you were having problems.
[10:41] <arualavi> mistform: no, alternate iso cd INSTALL
[10:41] <arualavi> my english sucks, i know
[10:41] <arualavi> apologies for it :-)
[10:41] <mistform> it's actually pretty good.
[10:42] <arualavi> i'm trayng to confirm a BUG with debian-installer
[10:42] <arualavi> */trying
[10:42] <mistform> there are just thousands of words in English that are interchangable yet many are not (though you would think)
[10:42] <mistform> okok
[10:42] <mistform> thought you needed help lol
[10:42] <mistform> yeah, or I should just read more, huh?
[10:43] <mistform> maybe I should change the colors of the text...
[10:43] <mistform> lol, that helps. I see a lot of things I didn't before
[10:43] <mistform> I saw this:
[10:43] <mistform> [03:35] <arualavi> i can't write accented characters
[10:43] <mistform> [03:35] <arualavi> àáèéìó...
[10:43] <mistform> I didn't see this:
[10:43] <mistform> [03:34] <arualavi> what i'm traying to confirm is a bug with debian-installer and spain keyboard
[10:44] <arualavi> mistform: what are you using for chat?
[10:51] <mistform> mIRC
[10:57] <mistform> anyways
[10:57] <mistform> i'm going to play xbox on live
[10:57] <mistform> later
[12:23] <nyn84> ahoi
[12:25] <nyn84> ich hätte ein Frage zu Xubuntu
[13:32] <homebrewcider> I've just upgraded my video card, what do I need to do? Anything?
[13:36] <TheSheep> sudo dokg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:38] <homebrewcider> that's it?
[13:41] <homebrewcider>  dokg-reconfigure: command not found
[13:43] <arualavi> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:43] <arualavi> typo :-)
[13:54] <homebrewcider> ok
[13:54] <homebrewcider> run that script and answer the questions and that's it?
[14:06] <arualavi> homebrewcider: hopefully, yes.
[14:08] <homebrewcider> ok cheers
[14:38] <cody-somerville> Hello Everyone! The release candidate for the next version of Xubuntu is planned to be released tomorrow providing we get enough testing!
[14:38] <cody-somerville> Please visit http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all to help! :)
[14:38] <cody-somerville> All four cds needed to be tested! :)
[15:04] <Helsu> What is the easiest way to use remote desktop to Xubuntu on a lan?
[15:06] <Helsu> I'll try http://www.tightvnc.com/index.html now.
[15:12] <Joelito> Does anyone know what's the name of the package to change timezones in xubuntu?
[15:18] <Helsu_> I want to remote control my Xubuntu from Vista, but this app that I think allows me to (TightVNC) isn't for Xubuntu
[15:18] <Helsu_> just fedora
[15:18] <Helsu_> just the source code is available
[15:19] <Helsu_> So is there any other way I can remote desktop my Xubuntu or should I just go for Windows Server instead?
[15:28] <ablomen> Helsu_, there are enough vnc servers for xubuntu
[15:29] <ablomen> including a tightvnc server, its all in the repositories (just search for vnc in synaptic)
[15:44] <Helsu_> Ok I set up knfc now
[15:44] <Helsu_> btw i couldn't find any vnc server when i searched for vnc
[15:46] <ablomen> Helsu_, http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/10/setup-vnc-server-for-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[15:47] <ablomen> you can skip the vnc-java stuff
[15:47] <ablomen> and step 3 if both pc's are in the same network
[15:49] <Helsu_> hmm
[15:49] <Helsu_> if desktop share is automatically enabled in ubuntu, why isn't it in xubuntu?
[15:50] <ablomen> i think because of the extra use of recourses, but im not a xubuntu dev, so dunno
[15:52] <Helsu_> if i skip the vnc java stuff i'll have to skip step 1
[15:52] <Helsu_> that can't be right
[16:06] <Helsu_> how do i install 32-bit libaries for xubuntu?
[16:46] <m11> hello all
[16:46] <m11> what is default name of image viewer in xubuntu ?
[16:49] <zoredache> qview or something like that ...
[16:50] <zoredache> m11: gqview
[16:51] <m11> zoredache: tnx
[17:05] <vandal2> can anyone give me their opinion on a php/mysql error?
[17:30] <oem> am trying to install Opera browser via snaptic but getting this output: opera:
[17:30] <oem>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.6-1) but 2.5-0ubuntu14 is to be installed
[17:30] <oem>   Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.2.1) but 1:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[17:30] <oem>   Depends: libstdc++6 (>=4.2.1) but 4.1.2-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[17:30] <oem>   Depends: zlib1g (>=1:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-1) but 1:1.2.3-13ubuntu4 is to be installed
[17:34] <oem> also, i just (said successfully) installed lynx and links through synaptic, but cannot find any launcher in the menus, can anyone help please?
[17:35] <gabkdlly> oem: hi
[17:35] <cody-somerville> oem, It sounds like you're trying to install Opera for a newer version of Xubuntu then you have.
[17:35] <gabkdlly> lynx is a command line web browser, you need to run it in a terminal
[17:35] <cody-somerville> oem, As for lynx and links, there may not be menu launchers for them
[17:36] <cody-somerville> oem, But you can create your own if you'd like
[17:39] <oem> gabkdlly and cody, hello and thanks.  can you tell me how to run lynx in the terminal, and with regard to Opera, I was trying to mark it in my synaptic, so shouldn't it be the right package for my version?
[17:41] <gaurdro> lynx is meant to be run only from the terminal
[17:42] <cody-somerville> oem, You may have added the wrong repository
[17:42] <cody-somerville> Opera is made available via the Canonical commercial repository
[17:43] <oem> hmmm.  i believe i added the repository right from community docs, then reloaded synaptic, and then selected Opera.  let me go to software sources to get you the .deb i put there
[17:46] <oem> http://archive.canonical.com/ gutsy partner   ... note how there is a space after .com/ and between gutsy and partner, is that sposed to be like that?
[17:48] <gaurdro> did you reload synaptic or refresh the sources?
[17:48] <gaurdro> s/sources/repositories
[17:49] <zoredache> oem: yes the line 'http://archive.canonical.com/ gutsy partner' is correct...
[17:54] <oem> yes, i reloaded. synaptic prompted me to...
[17:55] <oem> i'm not sure if i'm running feisty or gutsy on this machine
[17:55] <oem> wish the splash pages would display a version #
[18:00] <oem> um, so, can someone tell me how to lauch lynx in the term?
[18:02] <oem> or, better, how to create launchers in my menu?
[18:06] <oem> hm... i guess this must be feisty on this machine as i just did sudo apt-get update and evrything on the list called feisty... how to do distro upgrade?  is it  'sudo apt-get install dist upgrade'?
[18:08] <gNewPower> does anyone use a bluetooth dongle with Xubuntu to send files to another device?
[18:24] <zoredache> oem: still there? to create a launcher to start lynx I would have the command be something like 'xfce4-terminal --title="Lynx" -x lynx'
[18:26] <sve2> hey all, I can't get a second monitor to work on my system
[18:26] <oem> zoredache: so if i put  xfce4-terminal --title="Lynx" -x lynx  in the box marked command, and choose an icon, that icon should then appear in my menu under network?
[18:27] <totalwormage> oem: yes
[18:27] <oem> ok, i try... thx
[18:27] <zoredache> oem: if you created the launcher under network then yes...  If you created the launcher on a desktop or panel, then it would show up on the desktop/panel
[18:28] <oem> hm, how do i choose those locations?
[18:28] <zoredache> if you want to create something on the desktop right click on the desktop and choose create launcher... if you want to create on a panel, right click on a panel and choose add new item... choose launcher from the list
[18:36] <Fraeon> So, kwestshun for the ages
[18:37] <Fraeon> Installed the 8.04 beta and the wireless is iffy
[18:37] <Fraeon> It detects my wireless stick, finds the networks, but when I try joining one (a WPA network), it just keeps asking the password over and over
[18:37] <Fraeon> And I'm sure I have the password correctly
[18:38] <TheSheep> !hardy
[18:38] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:38] <Fraeon> Right
[18:39] <Helsu_> hmm i'll install ubuntu instead
[18:39] <Helsu_> maybe it works better
[18:39] <Helsu_> if that doesn't work i'll go for windows server
[18:49] <PriceChild> Fraeon: make sureyou are using the right case
[18:50] <Fraeon> Eh, I was the one who picked the password
[18:50] <Fraeon> And it works on my 2 other computers (tried it)
[18:51] <zoredache> just for trouble shooting purposes have you tried temporarily disabling wpa on the access point?
[18:52] <Fraeon> No
[18:54] <zoredache> if it was me, I suspect I would try that.
[18:56] <suriro> hello
[18:56] <suriro> I did a Hardy net install today with Xubuntu desktop (amd64)
[18:57] <suriro> the terminal does not seem to be performing hinting
[18:57] <suriro> all the rest of fonts on desktop is very good, hinted...
[18:58] <suriro> tried various fonts from Terminal's prefs, no use.
[18:59] <TheSheep> suriro: try terminus
[18:59] <TheSheep> suriro: you need to install it separately
[18:59] <TheSheep> \but it's worth it
[19:00] <suriro> TheSheep: I have another xfce desktop from Fedora here, and its Terminal does hinting.
[19:01] <suriro> Terminal uses vte library, right?
[19:17] <cody-somerville> Hello Everyone! The release candidate for the next version of Xubuntu is planned to be released tomorrow providing we get enough testing!
[19:17] <cody-somerville> Please visit http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/xubuntu/all to help! :)
[19:17] <cody-somerville> All four cds needed to be tested! :)
[19:22] <Helsu_> what is the point of all this typing of my password in linux generally?
[19:22] <Helsu_> it is worse than UAC in Vista
[19:23] <Helsu_> is it a way to turn of off?
[19:24] <zoredache> Helsu_: there are ways o configure things to that you are propted less for passwords if you are willing to accept the additional risk that something evil could use that change to do bad things
[19:25] <zoredache> setting up sudo to have a longer time out, or to not require a password for example
[19:25] <Helsu_> how do i turn it off then?
[19:25] <Helsu_> everyone hates UAC, I don't see how this is any better
[19:26] <zoredache> documentation for sudo can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[19:27] <zoredache> of course I don't use that, and once I was done installing I almost never use a password on my local system
[19:29] <Free_Beer> Are there any links pointing to a relative comparison of speed of Xubuntu vs, say, regular Ubuntu?   I'm considering Xubuntu for an older machine.  Memory is ok (512M) but slow processor.
[19:34] <zoredache> I am not aware of any Free_Beer... What kind of cpu are you talking about?  Did you check the specs page?
[19:34] <zoredache> !lowmem
[19:34] <ubotu> For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.
[19:34] <Free_Beer> hiya.  It's an older 733mhz machine.  Ubuntu runs on it, but it's a tas slow
[19:34] <Free_Beer> tad*
[19:36] <Free_Beer> *thanks for those links.. gonna have a quick peek at them...
[19:36] <Helsu_> out of curiosity, what kind of person uses it?
[19:36] <zoredache> what kind of person uses what?
[19:36] <zoredache> xubuntu?
[19:36] <Helsu_> that slow a computer.
[19:37] <zoredache> Free_Beer: Xubuntu will run, but I suspect your slowness isn't going to be from the windowing enviroment...
[19:38] <Free_Beer> Quite possibly, but the cli seems perky enough
[19:38] <zoredache> Firefox 2.x for example would be slow on that whatever enviroment you choose... ff2.x is a memory/cpu hog in my experience
[19:38] <Free_Beer> the intended user is my 74 year old father who I'm going to convert into a Linux Warrior. :-)
[19:39] <zoredache> firefox 3.x seems significantly speedier though..
[19:43] <Free_Beer> I can't tell about FF3... I've only ever tried it on this klunker that I'm reclaiming. :-)
[19:45] <Free_Beer> it's possible, too, that I'd get a boost in performance if I changed to a better vid card.
[19:46] <Free_Beer> my father has very little experience with computers (read: no bad Windows habits) so speed really isn't going to be that big of an issue... I'd just like it to be as perky as possible.  (Which is why I might consider Xubuntu.)
[19:50] <Helsu_> are you in the usa?
[19:52] <Free_Beer> me?  No.  But I'm close. :-)
[19:52] <Helsu_> canada?
[19:53] <Free_Beer> yup.
[19:53] <Free_Beer> And if they drew the border slightly differently, I would be in the US.
[19:53] <Helsu_> lucky you tehn
[19:53] <Helsu_> then*
[19:53] <Free_Beer> hehe
[19:53] <Free_Beer> US is ok. People are great. (usually)
[19:54] <Helsu_> yeah but the country is a bit fucked up right now, isn't it?
[19:55] <Free_Beer> economy is having its issues, but that's just the cyclic nature of it.  Politics can be a little weird, tho. (but that can be said of any nation) ;)
[19:56] <Free_Beer> Since they haven't asked me to be their Supreme Dictator, I guess they're satisfied with what they have already. :D
[19:57] <maxamillion> !language
[19:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:58] <Helsu_> i think i'll buy a webohotel in the usa now
[19:59] <Helsu_> now that the dollar is so low
[19:59] <Free_Beer> and properties are dropping back to more reasonable levels
[20:00] <Free_Beer> although that's mostly residential.. whereas commercial properties seem to be maintianing their values
[20:03] <Free_Beer> well, thanks for the info and chat... got to get back to work. ;)
[20:08] <floating> Hi. i have a linux question. i have a dual boot linux and windows in grub. i plan to uninstall this linux partition and install another linux partition over it. so after i have uninstalled the linux partition, is the bootloader messed up, and can the xubuntu install then fix it right after that, when i install xubuntu
[20:14] <floating> okay, i guess i do the mbrfix thing^^
[20:21] <Helsu_> fixmbr not mbrfix
[20:36] <xxxxxxx> can 1080p h264 be done on linux?
[20:36] <zoredache> when you say 'done', do you mean viewed, created, or?
[20:38] <zoredache> if you are wanting to view video files the answer is probably yes, but you would have to install the non-free codecs.. As for creating it, you would probably need to ask someone else
[20:44] <xxxxxxx> yes just viewing
[20:44] <xxxxxxx> there are non free codecs for linux? what are they called?
[20:44] <zoredache> !codecs
[20:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:44] <TheSheep> xxxxxxx: win32codecs :)
[20:45] <xxxxxxx> ah i see as long as it's possible
[20:45] <floating> is there a good guide for when you first start-up xubuntu, like installing codecs and other stuff
[20:45] <floating> i remember there is/was such for ubuntu but
[20:45] <xxxxxxx> i ordered an athlon x2 5000+ and a gigabyte mobo with 780g hdmi
[20:45] <zoredache> many of the instructions for ubuntu are the same for xubuntu
[20:46] <xxxxxxx> thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction
[21:33] <floating> http://pastebin.ca/988712 Hi. I got this stuff right off the start
[21:34] <maxamillion> floating: after you hit ctrl-d what happened?
[21:36] <floating> it prompted the normal login.. xfce
[21:36] <floating> and everything seems fine.. but still strange
[21:38] <maxamillion> floating: yeah, have you run updates? it appeared that the fsck process crashed on startup (which isn't critical, but still not good)
[21:38] <floating> i dont know much about linux, but i guess when i installed the system it tried to check if filesystem is fine, but it couldnt read that long name, which could be the name of this partition or something and it skipped it ?
[21:38] <floating> yeah, i just installed all the 120 updates there were
[21:38] <maxamillion> well its the UUID, and i don't see why it wasn't able to resolve
[21:39] <maxamillion> floating: is it installed on a different computer than the one you are talking to me on right now?
[21:39] <floating> no, im on it right now
[21:40] <maxamillion> hmmm... i was hoping you could reboot without having to sign off ... i'm curious to see if it happens after the updates
[21:42] <floating> ill try reboot now
[21:42] <maxamillion> ok, i'll still be here when you get back
[21:45] <floating> same happened
[21:45] <maxamillion> hmmm...
[21:45] <maxamillion> that's not good
[21:45] <floating> "please check the filesystem manually" or something was after the text also
[21:46] <maxamillion> floating: open a terminal and type "sudo fsck" and see what it says there
[21:46] <floating> then when stuff started loading fast, i saw another "fail" or "failed" on the load list, and im not sure but i thought it said wrong fstype...
[21:47] <floating> same
[21:48] <floating> /dev/sda3: recovering journal
[21:48] <floating> /dev/sda3: clean, 96813/452480 files, 492862/903648 blocks
[21:48] <floating> those 2 lines comes before the "unable to resolve" line
[21:48] <maxamillion> ok, so it can't resolve by uuid, but it can by device name
[21:48] <maxamillion> interesting
[21:48] <maxamillion> i wonder if the installer probed uuid incorrectly
[21:52] <floating> seems like others have had similar problems
[21:52] <floating> i have bunch of other problems facing here too :)
[21:52] <floating> or questions..
[21:53] <floating> well, ill do some googling:i
[21:54] <maxamillion> floating: ok, feel free to come back if you get stuck
[21:59] <floating> uhhm, my fstab looks weird :D
[21:59] <floating> xubuntu has set one of my windows partitions as ext3 partitions in fstab
[21:59] <maxamillion> oh that's not good
[22:00] <maxamillion> yeah, i don't doubt there is a problem with the installer
[22:00] <maxamillion> floating: what version are you using?
[22:01] <floating> i took the latest xubuntu 7.something from xubuntu site
[22:03] <oem> if i executed  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  and my os was feisty, then i should be upgrading to gutsy, correct?  i'm wondering why the files are still saying  'feisty updates'
[22:04] <maxamillion> floating: oh ok
[22:04] <maxamillion> oem: no
[22:05] <oem> maxamillion, here's output: After unpacking 179MB of additional disk space will be used.
[22:05] <oem> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[22:05] <oem> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main linux-headers-2.6.20-16 2.6.20-16.35 [8120kB]
[22:05] <maxamillion> oem: apt-get dist-upgrade just pulls the latest kernel and other "dist" respective libraries/modules ... you need to change the listings in your /etc/apt/source.list from feisty to gutsy and then run "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:05] <oem> Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic 2.6.20-16.35 [842kB]
[22:05] <oem> Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main linux-headers-generic <IP_ADDRESS>.28.1 [24.5kB]
[22:05] <oem> Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic 2.6.20-16.35 [23.8MB]
[22:05] <oem> 66% [4 linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic 23456824/23.8MB 98%]
[22:05] <maxamillion> oem: yeah, that's just pulling updates for feisty
[22:06] <oem> i'm actually trying to install opera, and since i keep getting probs with it, i thought i needed to update possibly, it's telling me there are unmet dependencies
[22:07] <oem> well, these are important updates just the same right?
[22:08] <maxamillion> oem: oh yeah, generally all updates are important :)
[22:08] <oem> i want to be up to date when stable hardy is ready.  will the update manager take me through two upgrades at that time?  feisty > gutsy > hardy?
[22:09] <zoredache> I don't believe a feisty -> hardy upgrade is supporte or tested...
[22:10] <oem> but feisty > gutsy is, right?
[22:10] <gaurdro> you can do a feisty-> gutsy upgrade now and when hardy comes out you can then do a gutsy-> hardy
[22:11] <oem> maxamillion, what are the changes ezackly that i have to make to sources for that upgrade?
[22:12] <oem> din't understand you completely when you said:  apt-get dist-upgrade just pulls the latest kernel and other "dist" respective libraries/modules ... you need to change the listings in your /etc/apt/source.list from feisty to gutsy and then run "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:15] <floating> maxamillion: by changing that one misentry ext3 to proper ntfs, it mounts the ntfs now also, and that fsck error dont appear and that "sudo fsck" dont give it either ^^ problem fixed :)
[22:15] <floating> so it was some bad installer for fstab :)
[22:19] <maxamillion> floating: oh, that's good to know
[22:19] <maxamillion> floating: thanks for the info :)
[22:20] <maxamillion> oem: yeah, you might want to look into using the graphical upgrade utility to upgrade between releases ... i don't want to send you into editing the /etc/apt/sources.list until you have a better understanding of the system
[22:23] <gaurdro> oem:  something that might be worth a try is update-manager -d   it will open the update notifier but will give you the option of doing a distrobution upgrade
[22:27] <maxamillion> yeah, that thing
[22:28] <maxamillion> i couldn't remember what its called
[23:11] <oem> guys what about a quikly addable floating calendar app?  just tried to get rainlendar but some dependency unsatisfiable ...
[23:12] <TheSheep> orage...
[23:13] <oem> thesheep, will i find that in synaptic?
[23:13] <TheSheep> oem: it's inalled by default
[23:14] <oem> don't see it anywhere on my menu
[23:14] <TheSheep> office->calendar
[23:15] <oem> beautiful, thanx, trying to visualise a trip itinerary and not easy without calendar
[23:15]  * TheSheep always uses 'cal' from the terminal


[10:20] <rysiek|pl> you can, just create an account (i did for USplash stuff ;) )
[10:21] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: It's on the pastebin
[10:21] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: link?
[10:21] <_shawn> can anyone help with syncing palm pdas?
[10:22] <robotgeek> _shawn: try kpilot , never done it before. so i can't help oyu much there
[10:22] <FlatAlex> can anybody help me with said gmailfs problem?
[10:23] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/591490
[10:24] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: sorry, reading too many windows... :P
[10:25] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: also lspci -v output please
[10:27] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: up under the other items
[10:27] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: damn, the website i generally use is down, i'll have to google
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> robotgeek: what website?
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> better than google? I don't believe it :]
[10:29] <robotgeek> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[10:29] <inteliwasp> for wireless
[10:29] <_JuDgEn_> how do i change the default font for wine?
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> ah :)
[10:30] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: http://questier.com/howto.html
[10:30] <_JuDgEn_> wine is using abbadon on my system, and it is hardly readable
[10:31] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: will this work with the gold version?
[10:31] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: okay, lemme google again. i got confused about the 0110 and 0111 models
[10:32] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: it is the 8420-WD
[10:33] <lubo> hello, anyone know about some ra (Real Player) to mp3 converter?
[10:33] <celerate> robotgeek, thanks for the links. I'm getting some progress made.
[10:33] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: momento
[10:33] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: oh wait...
[10:34] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: it does do my card...... i think...................i hope
[10:34] <Txukie> sven_GP: I found something for your mbr thing
[10:35] <celerate> something is happening different now
[10:35] <Txukie> damn after screwing my sandbox he disappears :(
[10:36] <Txukie> celerate: what is different now?
[10:37] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: are you looking for something better or waiting on me?
[10:37] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: waiting
[10:37] <celerate> the KWiFiManager app is actually giving a Mac address after Access Point, it wasn' doing that before
[10:38] <Txukie> well that means its found ur access point
[10:38] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: i have the tarball, do i just tar -uzvx   it?
[10:38] <celerate> it's still not working though, but I think I may know why
[10:38] <Txukie> just a suggestion for you celerate why not just use open access
[10:38] <Chousuke> inteliwasp: xvzf I think
[10:39] <Txukie> and then you filter your accepted connections through mac
[10:39] <inteliwasp> ya your right, i thought i was forgetting domething
[10:39] <_JuDgEn_> How do i change the default font in wine?
[10:39] <Txukie> only accepting your comp's wifi card's mac addres
[10:39] <DeluxXx_> anybody using xdcc-fetch ?
[10:40] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: untared
[10:41] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: cool
[10:41] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: next step?
[10:41] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: moment, in the middle of something here
[10:41] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: ok
[10:42] <Txukie> anyone here using dapper
[10:42] <Txukie> ?
[10:42] <Txukie> kubuntu dapper
[10:43] <robotgeek> inteliwasp, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:43] <luisito> hello here
[10:43] <luisito> I have tried to use the 70Hz refresh rate for my monitor adding 70 to the xorg.conf in the resolution (1280x960@70) but it didn't worl at all. What should I do to make this work at 1280x960? My card supports it and the monitor too, I have it in my Windows hardrive.
[10:43] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: do the entire this asis?
[10:43] <DeluxXx_> Txukie im using dapper works fine
[10:43] <meerkatz> hello, can anyne tell me which package i'll have to install to also have mp3s when browsing an audio cd with kde? ogg/flac/wav are working. only the mp3 dir is missing
[10:44] <Txukie> DeluxXx_: do you have xgl working on it?
[10:44] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: yup, the stuff in the quotes
[10:44] <Txukie> meerkatz: you need w32codecs
[10:44] <robotgeek> !xgl
[10:44] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:44] <deepwoodz> is there anyone reason my settings in systemsettings wont save when i try to access em
[10:44] <DeluxXx_> hm nope
[10:44] <deepwoodz> i been reading up
[10:44] <deepwoodz> i did everything in the tutorials
[10:44] <Txukie> well i manage to make it work sort of
[10:45] <Txukie> but have to use gnome-window.decorator
[10:45] <deepwoodz> still doesnt save
[10:45] <meerkatz> w32codes for mp3?!
[10:45] <deepwoodz> i even added super-user-command to kdecontrols
[10:45] <Txukie> meerkatz: depends on the app really
[10:45] <DeluxXx_> try gstreamre meerkatz
[10:45] <deepwoodz> kdesu still doesnt save
[10:45] <DeluxXx_> gstreamer*
[10:45] <Txukie> meerkatz: if you use gstreamer then just install all itsplugins
[10:45] <deepwoodz> i installed kde 3.51
[10:46] <deepwoodz> still nothin...
[10:46] <meerkatz> ok, i'll try
[10:46] <meerkatz> thnx
[10:46] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: crud... i just looked at my desktop and i have lotsa crap on it...
[10:46] <Txukie> meerkatz: if you use mplayer then you need w32codecs
[10:46] <deepwoodz> i had to manual jumpstart my network settings
[10:46] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: brb
[10:46] <Kr4t05> OK, I installed vanilla Ubuntu Hoary and upgraded to Breezy, and them got kubuntu-desktop. Does this make my system true Kubuntu? Or, do I need to do something else?
[10:47] <Txukie> Kr4t05: it does
[10:47] <Kr4t05> But, my terminal takes 'sudo' instead of 'kdesu'
[10:48] <Txukie> Kr4t05: terminal doesnt work through kdesu or gksudo
[10:48] <Txukie> always through sudo
[10:48] <Kr4t05> ah
[10:48] <Kr4t05> ok
[10:48] <Txukie> well it does work but its not the good way of doing it
[10:48] <Kr4t05> :P
[10:49] <Txukie> AFA you are willing to learn that doesnt matter ;)
[10:50] <inteliwasp> how do i delete a directory on the command line if there are thing in it?
[10:50] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: rm -r dir
[10:50] <patrix> -r = recursive
[10:51] <iris> hi, can't find kubuntu-desktop, whats's the apt source, please?
[10:51] <Txukie> patrix:  i think its actually -R
[10:52] <patrix> I've used -r since 1996
[10:52] <patrix> man rm will answer the question of course
[10:52] <patrix>        -r, -R, --recursive
[10:52] <patrix>               remove the contents of directories recursively
[10:53] <Txukie> patrix: funny ive always thought that -r was something else
[10:53] <patrix> heh
[10:53] <patrix> maybe in some other command
[10:53] <Txukie> i even make -Rf to delete folders
[10:53] <patrix> like ls, for example, -R and -r are diff
[10:54] <Txukie> yeah i think chmod too
[10:54] <Txukie> sorry for my mistake :(
[10:54] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: ok i did the install on gcc...
[10:54] <Txukie> iris: in dapper its in main
[10:54] <celerate> I think it worked :-)
[10:54] <Txukie> in breezy im not sure it might be in universe
[10:54] <celerate> it didn't lag on bootup, no complaints about npt.ubuntu.org being unreachable
[10:55] <deepwoodz> damn it sitll not workin anyone else ran into the password not workin 4 systemsettings or for kcontrol (well i can access admin mode now it just doesnt save anything)
[10:55] <celerate> damn, it just piggybacked on another "default" network again >:-(
[10:56] <celerate> someone tell me how to keep this bugger off "default" networks please.
[10:56] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: i gotta go now, sorry
[10:57] <inteliwasp> will you be back on later?
[10:57] <Txukie> celerate: have you tried manually editing /etc/network/interfaces
[10:57] <Txukie> ?
[10:57] <luisito> which are the packages I should always install to compile programs?
[10:57] <iris> Txukie, i am on breezy
[10:57] <Txukie> luisito: build-essential
[10:58] <Txukie> iris: try uncommenting your universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: yes, later
[10:58] <celerate> Txukie: yes
[10:58] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: i am guessing 3-4 hours
[10:58] <Txukie> can i take a look at it celerate
[10:58] <inteliwasp> purfect!
[10:58] <FlatAlex> apt-get keeps asking for the dapper flight4 cd when i try to install new files ... is this really necessary??
[10:58] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: cool, later then
[10:59] <luisito> Txukie: so I should do "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:59] <luisito> ?
[10:59] <Txukie> FlatAlex: probably, unless u delete the cdrom line in sources.list
[10:59] <Txukie> luisito: yes
[10:59] <_thumper_> does anyone here know how to map AltGr to Alt?
[11:00] <FlatAlex> why shold i want the cdrom line in sources.list?
[11:00] <darnell> how do i change and download themes with kubuntu
[11:00] <darnell> is there an art manager?
[11:00] <Txukie> FlatAlex: because its quicker than downloadin stuff from the net
[11:01] <luisito> Txukie: thanks
[11:01] <FlatAlex> oh, well :-) good point, hehe
[11:01] <patrix> Txukie: however you don't get the updates that way
[11:02] <FlatAlex> and uhm ... did anybody get gmailfs to work?
[11:02] <patrix> yeah I did, FlatAlex
[11:02] <darnell> how do i change and download themes with kubuntu
[11:02] <patrix> it was crap lol
[11:02] <FlatAlex> :-) why?
[11:03] <patrix> FlatAlex: it was slow, for some reason only root was able to access it
[11:03] <patrix> I didn't try to figure out why only root, cause it was so slow anyway
[11:03] <Kyral> darnell: Go to someplace like KDE-Look.org, find one you like, and then open the Theme Manager (System Settings -> Appearance)
[11:04] <Kyral> Tell it you want to install a new theme and when the location box pops up, drag (literally) the download link into the box
[11:04] <Txukie> kubuntu conf manager doesnt include anything to change your theme
[11:04] <Txukie> you have to use kcontrol instead
[11:04] <FlatAlex> patrix: :-( it doesnt work for me, the gmailfs.py  throws an exception ... maybe they changed something with the login
[11:05] <Kyral> Txukie: It does :P
[11:05] <Kyral> System Settings Applet :P
[11:05] <Txukie> Kyral: AKA kcontrol
[11:06] <Txukie> in an applet :P
[11:06] <patrix> FlatAlex: I followed instructions I found on ubuntuforums.org
[11:06] <Kyral> I see no difference lol
[11:06] <Txukie> what i meant is that under the system settings its not accesible
[11:06] <Txukie> which is stupid IMO
[11:07] <iris> Txukie, i look
[11:07] <Kyral> Txukie: KControl isn't installed by default?
[11:07] <Txukie> patrix: sorry patrix i lost wot u were saying
[11:07] <Txukie> Kyral: it is but no link on KDE menu
[11:08] <Kyral> Then how did one get on mine?
[11:08] <Kyral> Oh wait I'm on Dapper :D
[11:08] <patrix> heh
[11:09] <patrix> argh why do I always read diaper instead of dapper?
[11:09] <Kyral> lol
[11:09] <celerate> there it goes again, every time I reboot my laptop goes into another "default" network no matter what
[11:09] <zi99y> hola folks
[11:10] <Kyral> So yah I think I should take a buncha the "Service Menu" scripts from KDE-Look and put them all in one massive "konqueror-service-menus" package
[11:10] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu all
[11:11] <Txukie> Kyral: im on dapper and not on mine
[11:11] <Kyral> Txukie: *Shrug*
[11:11] <Txukie> celerate: i have sent you a PM
[11:11] <Kyral> Dunno what I installed lol
[11:16] <Txukie> poor celerate keeps rebooting his computer LOL
[11:18] <celerate> Txukie, yeah I got the PM and replied
[11:18] <Txukie> havent seen it
[11:18] <celerate> I don't see why having to reboot is funny
[11:18] <Txukie> im just kidding celerate ;)
[11:18] <celerate> ok
[11:18] <Txukie> cant see your message
[11:19] <celerate> I think ndiswrapper is trying to work on an interface called wlan0, but I don't have one, my wireless interface is called ath0 and has that same alias
[11:20] <Txukie> if your card can get the mac address of your router that means you can use wifi
[11:20] <iris> Txukie, thanks a lot!
[11:20] <Txukie> so driver is working fine
[11:20] <Txukie> i dont know if you can use wpa supplicant with ndiswrapper
[11:21] <Txukie> you are using windows drivers after all
[11:21] <Kr4t05> Anyone got a tip for cleaning out old .desktop files quickly and easily?
[11:21] <celerate> well that sucks
[11:21] <Txukie> celerate easiest thing really
[11:21] <Kr4t05> My menu is filled with old apps that I removed, and I don't want to go through and remove them by hand.
[11:22] <Txukie> is to configure your router to accept only connections from your mac address
[11:22] <Txukie> and then not use any password
[11:22] <Txukie> thats what i do
[11:22] <Foodcoman> Anyone have any idea why Konqueror would not start and just dies?
[11:22] <Txukie> and i guarantee nobody has gotten in my connection yet
[11:23] <Txukie> Foodcoman: start it from a konsole
[11:23] <celerate> mac filtering is easily circumvented
[11:23] <Txukie> if you know the mac address that you have to use ;)
[11:23] <Txukie> and theres like 10 billion combinations
[11:23] <Txukie> or so
[11:24] <Foodcoman> Wont start.
[11:24] <Foodcoman> Cursor drops to next line and that its.
[11:24] <Txukie> Foodcoman: whats the output
[11:24] <Foodcoman> BRB
[11:24] <celerate> Txukie, that's what packet sniffers are for
[11:24] <deepwoodz> did they get rid of kde 3.5.2 unstable already?
[11:24] <Txukie> tcp/ip packs dont have your mac address on them
[11:26] <darnell> why is kde so slow..
[11:26] <darnell> adept wont load, or it takes 10 minutes
[11:26] <tsdgeos> deepwoodz: kde 3.5.2 does not exist yet
[11:26] <celerate> Txukie, maybe, but I'm still airing on the side of caution
[11:26] <darnell> wont install java
[11:26] <celerate> the packets can still be analyzed for personal information
[11:28] <epzt> hi all
[11:28] <Txukie> yeah but wpa isnt gonna save you from that
[11:28] <Txukie> look theres a digram of tcp packets
[11:28] <Txukie> http://www.netfor2.com/tcp.htm
[11:28] <darnell> sucks, im going back go gnome
[11:29] <Txukie> celerate: trust me i know what im talking about ive got a degree in netwrks
[11:29] <epzt> dsl connction not started automaticaly at boot time, must allways use pppoeconf to reconfig it and start it
[11:29] <Txukie> darnell: java and gnome have absolutely nothing to do
[11:33] <Txukie> am i the only one that updates its repos for updates every 3 hours or so?
[11:33] <Txukie> i think im apt-addicted
[11:33] <Kr4t05> Txukie: Same here.
[11:34] <Txukie> Kr4t05: well i like synaptic but i prefer console
[11:34] <Txukie> and i dont like adept
[11:35] <Kr4t05> Hrm
[11:35] <Kr4t05> Does anyone have any idea how to clear out my menu of old links?
[11:36] <Txukie> u mean unused ones?
[11:36] <aseigo> old links?
[11:36] <Kr4t05> Yes
[11:36] <Kr4t05> Smeg won't apply changes when I use it.
[11:37] <Kr4t05> :/
[11:37] <Txukie> i thought they were just deleted when u took them off your kde menu
[11:37] <__P__3> hi
[11:37] <__P__3> i can' connect to msn using kopete
[11:37] <Kr4t05> They are deleted, I just don't know how to get them off of my KDE menu.
[11:37] <__P__3> i am alone?
[11:37] <epzt> why must allways reconfi my dsl connection every time at start my box ?
[11:37] <celerate> running wpa_supplicant by hand gives me this: "WPA: Failed to parse WPA IE from association info"
[11:38] <aseigo> Kr4t05: use the kde menu editor instead? perhaps smeg is doing something wrong
[11:39] <Txukie> celerate: sorry that beats me i dont know wot it could be
[11:39] <Txukie> celerate: consider what ive told you though
[11:39] <celerate> well at least I'm making some kind of progress, I've got the wireless AP mac address up again
[11:39] <_P_> are here with problem connecting to msn using kopete?
[11:39] <celerate> or at least I did for a while :-/
[11:39] <Txukie> im ok with amsn at the minute
[11:40] <_P_> no amsn
[11:40] <_P_> but kopete
[11:40] <_P_> amsn works
[11:40] <celerate> 8-o
[11:40] <celerate> it worked
[11:41] <Txukie> nice!
[11:41] <Txukie> congratulations
[11:41] <celerate> amazing
[11:43] <Txukie> _P_: have you correctly configured kopete?
[11:43] <celerate> I'm not sure, the network is connecting, but no internet :-p
[11:44] <celerate> it's progress though :-)
[11:44] <Txukie> dns?
[11:44] <Txukie> try ping an ip address
[11:44] <_P_> Txukie:  how?
[11:44] <_P_> it works until yersterday
[11:44] <Kr4t05> Ok
[11:45] <Txukie> sorry _P_ was talking to celerate
[11:45] <Txukie> ok _P_ now with you let em open kopete
[11:45] <Kr4t05> I used KDE Menu Editor, but the changes aren't showing up. Do I need to restart KDE?
[11:45] <Txukie> Kr4t05: maybe just kicker
[11:45] <celerate> ok, I've got a connection, but I'm not getting an IP address
[11:46] <celerate> maybe it's not configured for DHCP?
[11:46] <Txukie> dhclient ethX
[11:47] <Txukie> _P_ kopete is working fine for me with msn
[11:47] <Kr4t05> Txukie: How do I restart the kicker? (taskbar, I take it?
[11:47] <_P_> thanks
[11:47] <Txukie> killall kicker
[11:47] <Tm_T> _P_: Kopete is not connecting?
[11:47] <Syns> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:47] <celerate> iwconfig is giving me good info in the ap though, now I'm not sure why I'm not getting internet
[11:47] <Syns> can someone tell me what that is?
[11:48] <celerate> or an IP address
[11:48] <Kyral> celerate: maybe its a shit signal
[11:48] <Txukie> _P_ try deleting all kopete config from your home directory and start over again from default
[11:48] <Kr4t05> Txukie: No dice. For some reason, KDE Menu Editor isn't applying my changes
[11:49] <Txukie> i had that problem once
[11:49] <_P_> done twice
[11:49] <Txukie> with a quake icon
[11:49] <Kr4t05> I'm tempted to reinstall KDE
[11:49] <Tm_T> _P_: try another protocol
[11:50] <Txukie> _P_ did you delete your config folder under ur home=?
[11:50] <ailean> hey guys. i have wine installed, and can't get ie6 to install.  i know it SHOULD work, but not on my machine. can anyone help?
[11:50] <celerate> what are the permissions supposed to be on the file /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:51] <Tm_T> celerate: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 399 2006-01-30 20:10 /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <Txukie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 633 2006-03-08 21:33 /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <celerate> if I have 477 instead of 633 would that cause a problem?
[11:52] <_P_> Tm_T:  same problem with icq
[11:52] <_P_> but irc works
[11:52] <Tm_T> heh
[11:52] <Txukie> ..............
[11:52] <Txukie> try opening ports
[11:52] <Txukie> _P_
[11:52] <celerate> me opening ports, or was that for someone else?
[11:52] <Tm_T> _P_: then Kopete works, sounds like firewall problem to me
[11:52] <_P_> i have no firewall :D
[11:53] <Tm_T> you do
[11:53] <_P_> it ask me for passwd
[11:53] <Tm_T> aha?
[11:53] <Txukie> _P_ router?
[11:53] <Tm_T> bah, sleep ->
[11:53] <Txukie> _P_ check in your connection settings
[11:54] <Txukie> in kopete/msn
[11:54] <Txukie> try using the HTTP method
[11:56] <verden> can anyone tell me the chat site for dapper?
[11:56] <_P_> with http metod works
[11:56] <avu> verden: #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <_P_> thanks
[11:56] <verden> cool thanks
[11:57] <Txukie> _P_ firewall as i told you
[11:59] <zielony> How can I mount bin image file ?
[12:01] <HymnToLife> !bin
[12:01] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:01] <avu> zielony: convert it to an iso image with bchunk, then mount that with mount -oloop
[12:01] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to set system time via the terminal?
[12:01] <avu> kr4t05: date
[12:02] <Kr4t05> avu: Thanks
[12:02] <HymnToLife> with sudo


[17:54] <qqz> Hi, launchpad only accepts source uploads
[17:55] <qqz> how am I supposed to achieve a source-only upload?
[17:55] <qqz> delete the .deb and buildinfo from the changes file and then sign and upload?
[17:55] <qqz> it is still called xchroot_2.7.5-1_amd64.changes
[17:58] <cjwatson> debuild -S
[17:59] <qqz> I am using dpkg-buildpackage -sa<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:59] <cjwatson> add -S
[17:59] <qqz> if I add --build=source I get the error that the .deb is not found
[18:00] <qqz> same as -S
[18:00] <cjwatson> full output in a pastebin please?
[18:00] <cjwatson> -S shouldn't look for .debs
[18:00] <qqz> at #debian they told me I can not build a package without creating binaries
[18:00] <cjwatson> #debian is wrong
[18:00] <qqz> it doesn´t work; comlains: .deb not found
[18:00] <cjwatson> just flat-out inexcusably wrong
[18:00] <cjwatson> I need the full output please
[18:01] <cjwatson> it may be long, so paste.ubuntu.com or similar
[18:06] <cjwatson> (need to go for dinner now though; stick around, I'll be back in a bit)
[18:10] <jelmer> qqz: what other options are you specifying?
[19:17] <qqz> you can see the package at https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:estellnb:elstel/xchroot
[19:18] <qqz> try debexport, and different options for dpkg-buildpackage
[19:18] <qqz> for me none of the combinations have succeeded to "compile" only a source package
[19:19] <qqz> use ./debexport srcdirname; cd /usr/src/dirname; ./run
[19:19] <cjwatson> I'm not going to run your code - can you please pastebin what you see in your terminal when you try it?
[19:21] <cjwatson> I've been doing source-only builds with -S for nearly two decades and it works fine for me, so I need to see what happens when you try it.
[19:36] <ricotz> hello. are there any network issues currently? seems package uploading is very slow
[20:16] <cjwatson> ricotz: #canonical-sysadmin may know more than us on that
[20:17] <ricotz> cjwatson, will do, thx
[23:37] <braulio> Good evening, I am needing some help with the lauchpad login at https://launchpad.net/. I have already registered on the site and after clicking login I fall into a screen that I confirm my username and email and click on a green button and then fall into an error screen.
[23:37] <braulio> (Error ID: OOPS-43c919a5cb7a8318dc3d718bfd730d35)


[06:28] <SABA_> hi
[06:28] <SABA_> hari
[06:28] <SABA_> r u there
 Is there a way to scale an individual app on Lubuntu? I'm using it with a 4k native display and resolution, and I was able to add 1.5 scaling to the desktop, but unityhub, the text is so small it's almost impossible to read
 Also the window controls (minimize, maximize, close, etc) are very small, even though I've gotten the rest of the DE to scale. Is there a better way to use this with a HiDPI set up?
 Is unityhub a GTK application? GTK scaling is separate from the normal Qt scaling that the DE uses.
[13:08] <timon40> Hi
[13:10] <timon40> SO I bought a new notebook, an HP Victus 16-e0656ng
[13:11] <timon40> I've spent about 12 hours making USB sticks with different versions of Lubuntu and Xubuntu
[13:11] <timon40> Xubuntu will just freeze
[13:11] <timon40> Lubuntu was I able to set up and use for hours, but then it will just crash in a split-second and throw me back to GRUB
[13:12] <timon40> It's super frustrating, I just played in the backup, synched my browser, installed the tools I need, fiddled with GUI
[13:12] <timon40> and now I'm back to square one
[13:13] <timon40> So sometimes it crashed seconds after the login screen appears, or once the Desktop is loaded
[13:13] <timon40> Any help greatly appreciated.
 I'm not sure, but I'm going to guess yes since development is primarily geared towards Debian/RHEL/Cent. (re @kc2bez: Is unityhub a GTK application? GTK scaling is separate from the normal Qt scaling that the DE uses.)
 I was able to get most of the UI good with QT_SCALE_FACTOR and GDK_DPI_SCALE, but not unity (re @kc2bez: Is unityhub a GTK application? GTK scaling is separate from the normal Qt scaling that the DE uses.)
 based on my checking Unity Hub is in fact a GTK program - it throws gtk-message warnings and errors, and has a libgtk dependency in AUR and others, so it's almost certain it's a GTK program
 @kc2bez  ^^
 Thanks! Is there a way to edit GTK scaling through the lxqt-config-session? (re @teward001: based on my checking Unity Hub is in fact a GTK program - it throws gtk-message warnings and errors, and has a libgtk dependency in AUR and others, so it's almost certain it's a GTK program)
 I am not sure sure offhand. I know there had been some work upstream that hasn't landed in a release yet so it is something that is being worked on.
 Thanks Dan, I'll try to mess with the config files and see if I can find something. Is there a config for scaling the window controls for other apps such as Firefox, QTerminal, or Muon? Everything seemed to scale properly except the "window decorations", those are still very small at 3840x2160
[18:10] <john> Hi
[18:12] <john> I want to verify sha256sum of lubuntu-20.04.3-desktop-amd64
[18:12] <john> where i can get sha256sum?
 john: coreutils which should already be installed on the command line
 if you're using non-Ubuntu systems then it depends.  https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview will help just replace the references to the Ubuntu ISO with your lubuntu ISO
[18:23] <genii> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/20.04.3/release/ points to 20.04.4 and it's checksums so maybe you should zsync your .3 to .4
[18:29] <Don007> genii how do i do that?
[18:31] <Don007> i have already install lubuntu-20.04.3-desktop-amd64 back in January now is't 20.04.4
[18:32] <Don007> and didn't verify the sha256sum that time
[18:40] <genii> If you cd to the directory where the .3 iso file is and you have zsync already installed you can issue: zsync -i the-name-of-your-old-iso-file-here https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/focal/release/lubuntu-20.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[18:41] <genii> Then after it patches the iso file there you can use the checksum on https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/focal/release/
[19:55] <Don007> @genii Thank you so much its done.
[19:55] <Don007> checksum ok
[19:55] <Don007> checksum matches ok
[19:57] <genii> Glad to assist


[03:41] <ball> Is there an audio mixer where I can unmute the line input audio?
[03:46] <ball> I can see it a level bar bouncing with the input audio but I don't see anyway to select that as an audio source or unmute it.
[03:47] <guiverc> ball, you've not said release, but I usually use pavucontrol-qt for all my needs (even if a modern release using pipewire)
[03:48] <guiverc> pavucontrol = Pulse Audio Volume ControL (Qt version)
[03:48] <ball> That looks like the one I found in the system tray thing
[03:48] <ball> How do I unmute line in?
[03:49] <guiverc> In the input devices is where I'd look for options on an input device
[03:49] <ball> Hmm... looks like it's not muted but inaudible for some reason.
[03:50] <ball> I'm so confused.
[03:53] <guiverc> you can go to the last tab (configuration), note the profile used, turn it OFF, then either try a different profile OR put it back to whatever it was using (off/on will at least reset pavucontrol/device)
[03:55] <ball> It doesn't seem to help.
[03:58] <ball> Is there no way to install a better mixer?
[03:59] <ball> Wait, can Linux work without pulseaudio?
[03:59] <ball> (and still have sound)?
[04:06] <ball> I'll have to work on this tomorrow.  Thanks for trying though.


[13:59] <cwayne> davmor2: ew, UNR
[14:13] <davmor2> cwayne: it did a job and evolved into unity :P
[14:13] <cwayne> yeah yeah
[14:14] <davmor2> cwayne: people forget I've been around that long :D
[14:14] <cwayne> davmor2: me too :)
[14:15] <davmor2> cwayne: ah heno and his qa team, I remember helping Cgregan to get things up and running when he first started cause I already knew what to test :D
[14:22] <cwayne> ha, those were the days


[00:17] <VMGuy23> KDE on Intel Atom: It works really well for the most part, with the occasional 5 second freeze or wait. The lock screen? a mess.
[02:32] <marcoagpinto> Morning
[02:33] <VMGuy23>  Morning
[15:24] <xu-help42w> [18:21:46] <xu-help42w> Guys. I have been searching for some systems capable of gaming and so on
[15:24] <xu-help42w> [18:22:01] <xu-help42w> I tried Ubuntu and Manjaro so far. All the flavours.
[15:24] <xu-help42w> [18:22:42] <xu-help42w> Ubuntu works flawlessly. But in Manjaro games just freeze...
[15:24] <xu-help42w> [18:23:04] <xu-help42w> I can't even guess why in Ubuntu it works fine and why it doesn't in Manjaro. Any guesses?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> xu-help42w: did manjaro load your graphics driver correctly?
[15:25] <xu-help42w> Yes. For sure. I even tried to change them.
[15:26] <xu-help42w> Honestly, I had this problem on Ubuntu as well, but... I don't remember which version it was...
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> xu-help42w: you recall if they were the same driver versions for your card?
[15:26] <xu-help42w> Now on any flavour 20.04.3 it works fine
[15:27] <tomreyn> i'd suggest to head over to a manjaro support channel for something that doesn't work on manjaro
[15:27] <xu-help42w> They were probably similar. 470 or something like that. I tried other versions on Manjaro, 390, 495, 460... And so on
[15:28] <xu-help42w> Manjaro has 470 version, and Ubuntu has 470 version. But still. Ubuntu — flawlessly, Manjaro — lots of freezes
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> what about kernel versions xu-help42w
[15:28] <xu-help42w> Okay, I'll ask there, thanks
[15:29] <xu-help42w> I tried many kernel versions. 5.15, 5.13, 5.10, 5.10-rt, 5.4
[15:29] <xu-help42w> A friend of mine helped me to insert in Manjaro the Ubuntu kernel (5.11-something-38-generic) but still games freeze.
[15:31] <xu-help70w> Me again, sorry, disconnected
[17:09] <VMGuy23> i3 is great


[06:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <Lazy B> Cuttlefish is problematic. Why can't I bring network interfaces up and down manually via the KDE gui? And I have to start dhclient by myself
[06:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <Lazy B> Is network manager broken or something?
[06:44] <valorie> hmmm, everything Just Worked for me
[06:44] <valorie> otoh it was an upgrade
[07:06] <IrcsomeBot1> <Lazy B> (Photo, 595x49) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/kwD43fK6/file_9819.jpg The most interesting part is here. What the flip?
[07:12] <valorie> do you have a physical switch somewhere?
[07:26] <valorie> hope you figure it out
[07:26] <valorie> headed to bed here
[08:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_cantor build #198: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 30 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_cantor/198/
[08:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_cantor build #91: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 31 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_cantor/91/
[08:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2507: SUCCESS in 56 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2507/
[08:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2507: SUCCESS in 1 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2507/
[08:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2507: SUCCESS in 4 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2507/
[09:43] <IrcsomeBot1> <Lazy B> It looks like something supposed to trigger network conection during the login (not the boot time!) and it doesn't
[09:43] <IrcsomeBot1> <Lazy B> I'd better roll back to bionic
[10:06] <IrcsomeBot1> <Lazy B> With netplan being reinstalled it got better somehow
[13:44] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[14:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2508: SUCCESS in 53 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2508/
[14:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2508: SUCCESS in 1 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2508/
[14:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2508: SUCCESS in 4 min 15 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2508/
 @wxl, dhmk is - apparently - being abandoned in debian so, right now I would say you shoudln't use it. passing "--with-kde" to dh? up to you
 what is the link to our phab board?
[16:51] <mparillo_> https://phabricator.kde.org/project/board/214/ ?
 Thanks!
 @tsimonq2 @acheronuk nate do you think we can get together very soon for a video chat to talk about the installer slideshow?
 I see two open tasks about the wording.
 Why does it need to be a video call?
 The wording just ain't right :)
 I get that. Then get a list of changes and I'll update it.
[18:02] <IrcsomeBot1> * acheronuk does not do video
 @acheronuk, Yes you do, just hold up a picture of the KDE dragon :P
 😆
 @tsimonq2, to be honest, not sure my upload could cope with even that 😢
 @acheronuk, :(
[18:04] <acheronuk> nggraham ngraham see above ^^
[18:10] <mamarley> Is there something in Kubuntu that sets QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0 on startup?  I find that even if I try to set it to 1 in .profile, it remains 0.
 (Photo, 882x595) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/e9J5arc2/file_9850.jpg
 @tsimonq2
 @ahoneybun, nominate a time with Nate one day this week, not later than 11pm UTC+1, and we can chat on IRC or TG or BBB
 if we need that
 let's just get @tsimonq2 and Nate to get a list of changes.
 ok. thanks for bringing this up
 Yep we may be able to get this in still
 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/cosmic/files
 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/cosmic/revision/827?remember=827
 @acheronuk do you think we can enable two finger right click by default?
 It makes using a laptop soooo much better.
 tell me what config file change that is
 that's a good question lol.
 (Photo, 882x595) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Y4H80yny/file_9852.jpg
 @acheronuk btw there's a fix for krunner which needs uploading
 Minor problem with a package description
 @Santa, worth doing a rebuild of a seeded package?
 What does that entail?
 @tsimonq2 I see you may be able to help with this: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/cosmic/+merge/355892
 @Santa, rebuilding from source on all archictectures. running autotests against rdeps etc … as a seeded package it would land in the unnapproved queue, and need to be checked and accepted by the release team. so doing all that to correct the placement of on '.' might seem unnecessary to them depending on their mood
 Ok, up to you then
 I would rather not, just in case. may need their good graces for something more critical
 Ack in any case it would be fixed in future uploads
 Indeed!
 Bct
 ?
 huh?
 Sorry phone in the pocket
 aha. np
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 mm so Slack and Bitwarden crash on CC.
 slack wouldn't even install on Bionic for a while
[20:43] <ahoneybun> finally back on IRC.
[20:43] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: test
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[20:49] <valorie> I see ya, ahoneybun
[20:49] <valorie> wb
[20:49] <ahoneybun> Thanks!
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[20:49] <ahoneybun> nice to have irc.ahoneybun.net for setup lol.
[20:49] <valorie> :-)
[20:50] <valorie> make thomas get back on irc
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[20:50] <ahoneybun> xD
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[20:51] <ahoneybun> I mostly packed up my place for my new apartment next week valorie
[20:51] <valorie> oh nice
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[20:52] <ahoneybun> Yep.
[20:52] <ahoneybun> moving in with our new copywriter at system76.
[20:53] <valorie> excellent
[20:53] <valorie> I gotta get down there to visit
[20:53] <ahoneybun> Yes you do. Also I can say the Galago Pro is great for Kubuntu ;).
[20:53] <ahoneybun> Writing on one right now.
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[13:35] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:01] <jrwren> Good morning.
[15:36] <rick_h> morning
[19:32] <jrwren> Tonight is the night.


[17:25] <jose> mhall119: ping
[17:43] <mhall119> jose: pong
[17:44] <jose> @mhall119 hey, would you mind giving me a hand with the brief before we send off to design? not even sure if we're supposed to fill that out
[17:44] <meetingology> jose: Error: "mhall119" is not a valid command.
[17:44] <jose> lol
[17:44] <czajkowski> lol
[17:44] <mhall119> heh, too much slack for jose
[17:44] <mhall119> jose: do you have a design brief document?
[17:44] <jose> lol yes, crisis in a slack I'm in right now, been using the @ too much lately
[17:45] <jose> I do, but needs to be filled out. Kristine sent it out over email
[17:45] <jose> not sure if you were in the thread?
[17:46] <wxl> friendly reminder: we're behind on community donations reports
[17:47] <mhall119> jose: yup, I see it now, if you're happy with what's in our google doc I'll populate the design brief
[17:47] <jose> lemme check again
[17:47] <mhall119> wxl: ack, I know, it's been on my todo list
[17:50] <jose> mhall119: just need to figure out which logos we're gonna put in there
[17:51] <jose> and do we wanna pass it by someone at marketing?
[17:52] <mhall119> jose: I'll loop thibaut into it, yes, he can help pick the logos to incude
[17:53] <jose> ok, let me create a copy of the brief and share it with you/popey so we can fill it out
[17:53] <jose> that's the template
[17:55] <mhall119> thanks jose
[17:55] <jose> np!
[17:56] <mhall119> jose: I've also shared with you the brief from the previous set of cards we had printed (that I showed in the Hague)
[17:57] <jose> oh amazing, thank you
[17:58] <wxl> mhall119: glad to hear it :) someone was complaining about the lack of transparency with the funding and i had the report page to show off :)
[17:59] <mhall119> wxl: I think I'm only 1 report behind right now, but I'll get to it as soon as I have a couple spare hours
[18:18] <czajkowski> mhall119: see pm
[21:09] <wxl>
[21:11] <popey> wxl: people complain? no wai!
[21:11] <wxl> i kno..


[20:43] <KombuchaKip> Ubuntu. We're Going to Mars! http://planet.ubuntu.com/
[23:33] <BobJonkman1> 30 min from now: !Ubuntuca IRC meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2013/2013-11-28
[23:43] <jose> hey BobJonkman1, it's supposed to be in ~15, right?
[23:47] <BobJonkman1> Hi jose: Yes, 13 min from now
[23:47] <jose> cool :)