[09:43] <slytherin> Linuturk: Isn't there any cancel button?
[09:43] <ytsestef> psusi: WOW, pastebin isn't working: Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145) LOL
[09:43] <bart> Yohoo!! ./ mini tribal dance :D
[09:43] <ZeroSystem> hallo
[09:43] <eobanb> Alan, congrats
[09:43] <paddy-2k> HELP! Has anyone had a problem with the Live CD? All I get is a login screen!
 how dou you know?
[09:43] <mwe> ytsestef: pastebin.ca
[09:43] <Linuturk> slytherin, no, there is no way to close it or cancel it
[09:43] <r3m0t> Linuturk: IMO you should bring the machine right down with shutdown. that way nothing related to the upgrade will keep running
[09:43] <Paul_UK> hey, vpn pptp is installed, how do i connect with it?
[09:43] <ytsestef> thanks mwe!
[09:43] <ericb2> baille :)
[09:44] <slytherin> Linuturk: then just shutdown the PC. :-) But make sure that it has not started installing packages. It is just downloading them.
[09:44] <zachalekos> anyone?
[09:44] <psusi> ytsestef: lol, wow... try http://rafb.net
[09:44] <r3m0t> Paul_UK: this might help http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[09:44] <slytherin> greenplastic: It is obvious :-)
[09:44] <xq> Anyone ever get a Dell Laserprinter (Networked) working on Ubuntu? (I have the 1600n Multifunction...) hehe
[09:44] <sasimon19> hello
[09:44] <tatters> you are using a Linux system with the kernel timer resolution set too low. Please contact your Linux distributor for more information.  <--got this error Feisty trying to run Rose garden part ooof the music studio package
[09:44] <slytherin> Paul_UK: if you are using network manager then just install pptp module for it.
[09:44] <EmxBA> ubuntu.com doesn't show up ok in firefox; what happened?
[09:44] <theonlyalt> anyone know where I can get the torrent download for feisty
[09:45] <ZeroSystem> I have a question is there a release of ubuntu 7.04 for intel core2 or is it amd64 the one that has core2 support
 why??
[09:45] <EmxBA> two images are badly shown
[09:45] <r3m0t> EmxBA: ubuntu.com is in flux
[09:45] <sasimon19> slytherin, where can I get boot help?
[09:45] <mwe> tatters: sounds like it's broken to me
[09:45] <slytherin> greenplastic: everybody is trying to download new release
[09:45] <Aw0L> does ubuntu 7.04 have a hash floating around somewhere?
[09:45] <r3m0t> ZeroSystem: if you want 64-bit, get the amd64 image. if you want 32-bit, get the i386 image.
[09:45] <slytherin> sasimon19: what is problem?
[09:45] <roler> Has anyone ran ubuntu on a Mac Book Pro? My MBP has a ATI x1600, which i'm not sure if xorg has support for or not. Ubuntu Edgy booted up in 1024x768, but Feisty refuses to boot any GUI what so ever...
 thank you for info!
[09:45] <EmxBA> r3m0t: ?
[09:45] <mwe> ZeroSystem: be aware that most commercial software don't play nice with the 64bit version
[09:46] <Nergar> where can i see the supported wifi cards in ubuntu?
[09:46] <r3m0t> EmxBA: it probably doesn't load properly anywhere
[09:46] <sasimon19> slytherin, I used the gui for modding the boot time and default boot and I need to get back to it but I forget where it was
[09:46] <fuzzy_logic> hello world
[09:46] <zachalekos>  help me! Fixed it before but lost the bookmark. When I insert a burned DVD the drive spins and whirs but won't mount. Sometimes it does, but mostly it won't. I remember fixing it before by changing something in a file ide-cd though I might be mistaken, can't find it on the forum anymore. any help is appreciated.
[09:46] <mtholdenss> hey is this the link to the dvd for 7.04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/  or should i just get the cd
[09:46] <r3m0t> EmxBA: but it'll look nice in a short while, I'm sure
[09:46] <Nergar> and where is the gnome control panel as promissed??
[09:46] <slytherin> roler: is yours a widescreen monitor? You may have to pass some options to kernel
[09:46] <EmxBA> ok
[09:46] <sasimon19> slytherin, I didn't use the /boot one
[09:46] <roler> slytherin; yes...
[09:46] <slytherin> sasimon19: Can you please staate the problem clearly?
[09:46] <kbrooks> what does it mean when my share ratio is decreasing?
[09:46] <sasimon19> slytherin,  it was a modifier that had check boxes and stuff... do you know the command for it?
[09:47] <theonlyalt> what's the url to get the torrent for 7.04?
[09:47] <eobanb> kbrooks, it means you're downloading more than you're uploading
[09:47] <slytherin> sasimon19: No. I don't know
[09:47] <sasimon19> slytherin,  I need the gui for manipulating the boot options
[09:47] <slytherin> roler: Search wiki orforums you should get something
[09:47] <Aw0L> I downloaded ubuntu 7.04 off of bittorrent - is there an official hash somewhere?
[09:47] <ytsestef> psusi: here's my menu.lst http://pastebin.ca/448626     it's pretty typical. mind you I have tried changing (hd1,0) to (hd0,0) since I have experienced an other distro's problem (not similar to this) and that worked. I guess it has something to do with how are my disks detected by ubuntu vs how are they detected by grub...
[09:47] <sasimon19> slytherin, the problem is my computer booted in text mode and I had to startx to get to the goi
[09:47] <fuzzy_logic> im having trouble starting beryl after upgrading to feisty.. i dont see any close buttons or anything on the top of windows at startup.. after killing the beryl-manager process and restarting it from the terminal it loads the default gnome window manager and i get the following error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".  can anyone help me plz?
[09:47] <sasimon19> gui*
[09:47] <kbrooks> eobanb, how would i increase it?
[09:47] <mwe> Aw0L: next to the image download locations
[09:47] <roler> slytherin; thanks
[09:47] <slytherin> Aw0L: Doesnt' bittoorent veryfy the hash? And you shoyld get the hash at same place as torrent
[09:48] <inglebert> hi!
[09:48] <kusit911> i have a problem with a linux image that i'm provided with from schol. I have to use the image (by mounting and then chrooting) but then after a little use i get an error that there isn't enough space. is it possible to enlarge the image so i wont get that error? thanks
[09:48] <hez1> slyth: i figured out what happened with my system
[09:48] <Aw0L> slytherin, thanks
[09:48] <hez1> it's fairly straight-forward
[09:48] <apo> Hi everybody
[09:48] <Aw0L> does it verify the hash?
[09:48] <eobanb> kbrooks, once you're done downloading, let it upload more?
[09:48] <hez1> i changed my wep password a while ago and forgot about i :)
[09:48] <psusi> ytsestef: can you also pastebin your /boot/grub/devices.map?
[09:48] <slytherin> fuzzy_logic: Your xorg.conf needs modification. Search wiki.ubuntu.com for berylonfeisty
[09:48] <kane77> I cant install enemy territory :( it says something like: "./setup.sh: 278: /home/kane/.setup8661: not found. ", anyone knows why? (I'm running 64-bit feisty) anybody can help?
[09:48] <TSWoodV> slytherin: Aw0L is correct in his paranoia.  It's always good to check any download from any source against the officially published md5sum and sha1sum for it.
[09:48] <eobanb> kusit911, what image exactly
[09:48] <amarillion> Azureus crashes... No ubuntu for me today
[09:49] <amarillion> Or at least no feisty
[09:49] <fuzzy_logic> slytherin: thanks will try that
[09:49] <Aw0L> TSWoodV, yeh for paranoia!
[09:49] <apo> I've just upgraded to 7.04 (over the update manager) and am having trouble getting direct rendering to work. http://tjugotre.org/xorg.conf is my xorg.conf, and I have a Radeon 9600
[09:49] <psusi> ytsestef: and tell me exactly what grub does once it loads?
[09:49] <Kickboy> Does anyone know the aptitude command to do a straight upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04? I forget what it is. Thanks.
[09:49] <Aw0L> I take it that ubuntu doesn't publish one set hash
[09:49] <kusit911> eobanb: it's an image of an old mandrake linux root
[09:49] <sasimon19> amarillion, the ubuntu version of azureus doesn't work right, go to sourceforge and get the latest .tar.gz
[09:49] <eobanb> kusit911, and what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[09:49] <apo> This is pretty much the xorg.conf of my notebook, which has a Radeon Mobility Xsomething, so I guessed it should work...
[09:50] <mwe> Aw0L: last time I downloaded an image I think there was an .md5 file next to the image at the site
[09:50] <psusi> ytsestef: if you have the bios configured to boot from the non raid disk, then you want to use (hd0)
[09:50] <apo> Does anybody have an idea what could be wrong with it?
[09:50] <TSWoodV> Aw0L: Unfortunately, the ubuntu website is getting hammered.  The checksums should be published there somewhere.
[09:50] <kneeki> apo: have you tried using a different driver?
[09:50] <sasimon19> amarillion, you can sudo cp /from-here/ /to-there/ and overwrite the ubuntu defaults
[09:50] <eobanb> apo, it looks like you're using the ati open source drivers rather than fglrx
[09:50] <psusi> ytsestef: whichever disk the bios boots from is considered hd0
[09:50] <Aw0L> mwe, many sites do that, but I'm having difficulty getting back to that site (lots of people downloading today) - but some sites don't publish that for torrents
[09:50] <kusit911> eobanb: nothing :) i have ubuntu as my linux distro and in order to do that school assignment i have to mount that image and chroot it on my ubuntu
[09:50] <Aw0L> TSWoodV, thanks
[09:50] <killerboy> no answer even on ubuntu?
[09:51] <sasimon19> slytherin, where should I go for boot help?
[09:51] <killerboy> sad
[09:51] <mwe> Aw0L: oh
[09:51] <ravi_> hey friends, how many u ppl installed Feisty...
[09:51] <eobanb> kusit911, why do you have to do that?
[09:51] <Kickboy> Does anyone know the aptitude command to do a straight upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04? I forget what it is. Thanks.
[09:51] <apo> eobanb, kneeki: Alright, I'll try that one... *sigh*
[09:51] <Aw0L> ok, I'll just be patient
[09:51] <ytsestef> psusi: http://pastebin.ca/448635 here's the device.map
[09:51] <Aw0L> thanks guys
[09:51] <kneeki> apo: =)
[09:51] <Rprp>   ChanServ Daveym[DJ]  Duiv Rprp viruz_jeckyll Wesleysld
[09:51] <slytherin> apo: Have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg' (without quotes)? Restart PC after that
[09:51] <Infinity__> Hey Everyone, I have been running the 7.04 BETA version. Will I automatically be upgraded to the full version through the Update Manager?
[09:51] <fuzzy_logic> slytherin: that wiki page doesn't say anything about changing xorg.conf, only something with ati on ppc, but i use nvidia on intel
[09:51] <kusit911> eobanb: we're programming something that requires a very specific kernel (i think) and so we have to use that image ....
[09:51] <eugman> Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US Connection failed
[09:51] <slytherin> Infinity__: yes
[09:52] <kusit911> eobanb:  is there a way to edit the image? maybe make it larger?
[09:52] <sasimon19> slytherin, where should I go for boot help?
[09:52] <lnxkde|work> anyone
[09:52] <slytherin> fuzzy_logic: what is exact nature of problem?
[09:52] <lnxkde|work> anyone
[09:52] <albert> !mp3
[09:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:52] <mwe> eugman: it's probably too busy
[09:52] <pero> I've just installed Feisty, instead of eth0 I have wlan0, how can I get eth0 again?
[09:52] <lnxkde|work> got 7.04 running yet?
[09:52] <hez1> Does anyone know how to make amsn look prettier?
[09:52] <danikhan> hy if i want learn programming on linux and want my desktop look cool with lots eye candy and gadets which should i get ubuntu or kubuntu
[09:52] <nuovo> hi
[09:52] <nir_ai> hi, what is better in terms of hardware and software support, 64 bit version or x86 version of Feisty?
[09:52] <mwe> lnxkde|work: yeah, for months ;)
[09:52] <_what_if_> does anyone else see the BT tracker as down ??
[09:52] <eobanb> kusit911, i dont see how chrooting would accomplish that
[09:52] <apo> slytherin: I tried that, and restarted X after doing so
[09:52] <ytsestef> psusi: I know, that's why I tried changing to (hd0,0) but it didn't work either. The point is I get to the grub prompt and NO MENU. this is weird. getting the system hanged at boot when formatting in reiserfs is even worse...
[09:52] <Infinity__> slytherin: So I don't have to worry about downloading the upgrade edition. It will just upgrade out of BETA on its own?
[09:52] <slytherin> lnxkde|work: Lots of them
[09:52] <mrpoundsign> sweet! Only 1d31h to finish updating!  :)
[09:52] <nuovo> Why does Ubuntu detect all in one printer scanner and not Xubuntu>?
[09:52] <Alfonzo> this isnt a troll question, what makes ubuntu better than other distros? ive heard about it nonstop over the past few months
[09:52] <lnxkde|work> working nice that gnome 2.18?
[09:53] <Alan> right, how do i add a volume to /etc/blkid.tab (i'm guessing thats where i need it seeming as thats where all the other volumes Ubuntu knows about are)  - if i add it to fstab it of course mounts, but can't be managed in the same was as via gnome...
[09:53] <slytherin> apo: How did you figure that there is direct rendering problem?
[09:53] <surviver> nuovo, xubuntu has not that much support
[09:53] <musya> how can i make ubuntu reaed/write to NTFS
[09:53] <LjL> Alfonzo: it's an offtopic question, though. try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, it's usually quite populated. this channel's for support questions only
[09:53] <Alfonzo> ok
[09:53] <slytherin> Alfonzo: Try it to know it. :-)
[09:53] <yell0w> !upgrade
[09:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:53] <LjL> !ntfs-3g > musya    (musya, see the private message from Ubotu) | dangerous
[09:53] <apo> slytherin: glxinfo | grep render
[09:53] <nir_ai> hi, what is better in terms of hardware and software support, 64 bit version or x86 version of Feisty?
[09:53] <mwe> mrpoundsign: I guess downloading at the release date isn't the best option :)
[09:53] <ytsestef> psusi: detail: the last two drives in device.map is my raid (apparently being detected as two seperate drives by linux)
[09:53] <apo> And glxgears is sloooooooooow.
[09:53] <mwe> brb
[09:53] <fuzzy_logic> slytherin: i can't get beryl to work.. it gives me this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".... before i edited xorg.conf and replaced the driver name from 'nvidia' to 'nv' the xorg didn't load at all..
[09:53] <sasimon19> !boot
[09:53] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:53] <Alan> hmmmmm
[09:53] <clop> Hi, i just ran the feisty installer cd.  everything seemed to go fine, but when i reboot to load the system from the hard drive, grub loads then says "Error 21, selected disk does not exist"  -- any idea how to fix this?
[09:53] <kusit911> eobanb:  in order to compile our assigment we have to do that process....
[09:53] <nuovo> surviver: so i will have to do this manually?
[09:53] <kbrooks> !dangerous
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dangerous - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <LjL> nir_ai: x86, for software. especially some proprietary software.
[09:54] <Alan> blkid > /etc/blkid.tab
[09:54] <slytherin> apo: what is output of glxinfo | grep direct
[09:54] <nir_ai> LjL, thanks
[09:54] <h0ax> i did this "h0ax@h0ax-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install kismet
[09:54] <h0ax> " and it is taking ages to connect to download the package keeps timing out
[09:54] <kusit911> eobanb: anyway do you know of a way to enlarge that image?
[09:54] <psusi> ytsestef: is the non raid disk hd0 in devices.map, or is hd0 one of the raid disks?
[09:54] <surviver> nuovo, yes if he doesnt detect it like in ubuntu it means the drivers arnt there for it so u have to search it or do it manually
[09:54] <Rictoo> "If you are using the Edgy KDE 3.5.6 repository,"
[09:54] <vi0> :(
[09:54] <RaverWild> hello people! newbie here, running edgy. question is: how on gnome i could make my workspaces look different (wallpapers etc)? tried on second to put different wallpaper, but it appeared on 1st workspace too :(((
[09:54] <apo> slytherin: The same as glxinfo | grep render... "direct rendering: no"
[09:54] <slytherin> !ati | apo
[09:54] <ubotu> apo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:54] <jam1n> anyone have a good server to download from
[09:55] <eGGstain> everyone complaining about the mirrors getting crsuhed should use the torrent downloads - I got 2 different iso's in about 40 minutes
[09:55] <void^> h0ax: most mirrors will be very, very slow for a few days because of the release.
[09:55] <slytherin> jam1n: where are you located?
[09:55] <kneeki> apo: Are you using XGL?
[09:55] <fuzzy_logic> !nvidia
[09:55] <jam1n> arkansas
[09:55] <h0ax> ahh void^
[09:55] <psusi> ytsestef: ohh wait... did you said the non raid disk with /boot on it is sda or hda?
[09:55] <jam1n> torrent files are fin
[09:55] <jam1n> e
[09:55] <fuzzy_logic> !nvidia
[09:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:55] <apo> kneeki: Not yet
[09:55] <fuzzy_logic> !nvidia | fuzzy_logic
[09:55] <Death_Sargent> um anyone have help downloading fiesty
[09:55] <ytsestef> psusi: hd0 in device.map is a single IDE drive (/dev/hda , used by windows, ntfs, nothing to do with ubuntu which is on /dev/sda - SATA disk)
[09:55] <pkl_> kusit911: you haven't said what the image is - I'm assuming a filesystem?  Some filesystems can be grown, but most can't.
[09:56] <Death_Sargent> the site is all kinds of bogan
[09:56] <lgc> How do I turn off my grapahical session?
[09:56] <kneeki> apo: Try checking the 'ati driver' box in the Restricted drivers screen. See if that helps (it auto configures for you)
[09:56] <lbci_irc> i agree, i have 3 iso's since 5 hours ago and my update is still 5 hours out:(
[09:56] <cronoz> if i have 2GB ram, what size have to be spaw partition ??
[09:56] <cronoz> swap*
[09:56] <Death_Sargent> anyone
[09:56] <theonlyalt> eGGstain, where'd you get the torrent file? I can't seem to find it..
[09:56] <lbci_irc> torrent is the way to go
[09:56] <eobanb> cronoz, not very big :)
[09:56] <pmw159> It's nice being on a campus and it just takes one person to download it for the rest
[09:56] <pkl_> kusit911: the best thing to do is create a bigger new filesystem, and copy the contents of the original image into it.
[09:56] <cronoz> how?
[09:56] <Death_Sargent> torrent?
[09:56] <cronoz> 2gb?
[09:56] <psusi> ytsestef: ok, that is the problem then... yuo need hd0 to point to the drive the bios is booting from, which is the same one /boot is on right?
[09:56] <cronoz> 3?
[09:56] <kane77> cronoz, i'd say 1G or even less
[09:56] <Death_Sargent> where can I get the torrent
[09:56] <mtholdenss> link to dvd image of 7.04?
[09:56] <mirak> hi
[09:56] <eobanb> cronoz, not even 1 GB
[09:56] <mirak> is kqemu in feisty now ?
[09:56] <eGGstain> let me link for ya
[09:56] <Death_Sargent> cronoz: atleast twice as much ram as you have
[09:56] <eobanb> Death_Sargent, uhm, no.
[09:56] <rkvirani> Hi all
[09:57] <surviver> hi
[09:57] <Death_Sargent> cronoz: you should always have a nice sized swap
[09:57] <mrpoundsign> mwe: not going to be done sooner if I start tomorrow.  ;)
[09:57] <lbci_irc> i found torrent under a mirror from main page
[09:57] <cronoz> 4gb ?
[09:57] <kusit911> pkl_: how would i do that?
[09:57] <rkvirani> congrats on the Feisty launch!!
[09:57] <Death_Sargent> 4 max
[09:57] <Death_Sargent> 1 at least
[09:57] <jam1n> someone plz link to torrent
[09:57] <kane77> Death_Sargent, it's not allways necessary, especialy at that big ram...
[09:57] <eobanb> cronoz, if you already have 2 GB of real RAM, 4 GB of swap is a waste of space
[09:57] <rkvirani> congrats on the Feisty launch!!
[09:57] <Death_Sargent> yeah
[09:57] <Death_Sargent> 1 is good
[09:57] <pkl_> kusit911: first find out what filesystem it is... What command do you use to mount it?
[09:57] <phoenix_G> >.< 1 hour remaing to complete download
[09:57] <kneeki> Ubuntu labels download link (I made them myself): http://rapidshare.com/files/26850229/ubuntu-labels.pdf.html ENJOY!
[09:57] <rkvirani> I have a quick question, is the kernel for ubuntu compiled with kvm support?
[09:57] <Death_Sargent> I have 1gig ram and 6 swap but I abuse the hell out of my system
[09:57] <mtholdenss> link to dvd image?
[09:57] <ytsestef> psusi: the /boot partition IS on the drive from which bios boots, yes
[09:58] <JimTB> I have an ATI card which works only with the closed-source ATI drivers. Will I be able to downgrade the xorg in feisty to 7.1 or is it too much trouble?
[09:58] <eobanb> kneeki, paste that in #ubuntu-release-party :)
[09:58] <kneeki> eobanb: will do =)
[09:58] <kane77> kneeki, thx, I'll have look at those...
[09:58] <psusi> ytsestef: ok, then you need to fix device.map so that hd0 points to that drive
[09:58] <cronoz> ok thx everybody
[09:58] <cronoz> nice people :)
[09:58] <kusit911> pkl_:  mount -o loop mdk9.2-mini-disk /mnt/mdk
[09:58] <catcat> hi again all - i'm struggling to get suspend working with feisty. is there anything i can try before i have to put sled back on my vaio? i've installed uswsup tools and tried s2ram -f, but that just logs me out
[09:58] <RaverWild> hello people! newbie here, running edgy. question is: how on gnome i could make my workspaces look different (wallpapers etc)? tried on second to put different wallpaper, but it appeared on 1st workspace too :(((
[09:58] <Death_Sargent> link to get feisty?
[09:58] <slytherin> JimTB: why don't you install binary drivers instead?
[09:58] <Death_Sargent> please
[09:58] <kane77> kneeki, :( wait time.. 69mins..
[09:58] <catcat> ubuntu's suspend kills X and locks everything
[09:58] <dystopianray> JimTB: why do you need to downgrade it?
[09:58] <hk-> I can ping secruity.ubuntu.com but update-manager isn't able to update the package list, is there a problem because of the new release or is it just me?
[09:58] <kneeki> kane77: They arn't amazing. But, they are better than a sharpie marker
[09:58] <EmxBA> Death_Sargent: http://releases.ubuntu.com.ba/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[09:58] <nir_ai> some mirros still show the feisty version of 15-Apr. Is this the latest one?
[09:58] <kneeki> kane77: Ack! Know of another host I can post them at?
[09:59] <slytherin> JimTB: Try System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[09:59] <Paul_UK> has anyone here got pptp to work?
[09:59] <EmxBA> yes, nir_ai
[09:59] <Glos_WiFi> hey guys, has anyone here installed Feisty and suddenly found out that their wifi card is not detected?
[09:59] <JimTB> thats what I am saying. It is just that those #%5% binary drivers wont work with 7.2
[09:59] <Vagant> Greetings!
[09:59] <Paul_UK> because VPN here looks severely broken here, im amazed it got passed TESTING!
[09:59] <kneeki> kane77: Oh wait, I have DeviantArt, one sec for another link.
[09:59] <skaller> ok i have found open office problem: 32 bit program, 64 bit libraries
[09:59] <kane77> kneeki, hmm.. dunno what it was.. sendspace?
[09:59] <Death_Sargent> ok um what version was that a link to
[09:59] <rkvirani> I have a quick question, is the kernel for ubuntu compiled with kvm support?
[09:59] <Linuxnewbie756> i'm having problems with the feisty download, the dl won't start
[09:59] <Death_Sargent> does it matter?
[09:59] <slytherin> nir_ai: I think 15th April was RC and it is final
[09:59] <skaller> looks like the package is screwed ..
[09:59] <Vagant> Feisty is working great but does anybody know a "not crowded" mirror?
[09:59] <kbrooks> JimTB, what?
[09:59] <slytherin> rkvirani: yes
[09:59] <Death_Sargent> not today man
[09:59] <dystopianray> JimTB: yes they do
[09:59] <rkvirani> synthaxx: cool thanks!
[09:59] <Death_Sargent> Vagant I would wait a week or so
[09:59] <Ph3NoMeN0> hi, anyone has experienced problem with amsn 0.95-6-7 and feisty? I have a too strange issue: only in amsn after upgrading to feisty I have the menus with a strange set of caracters
[09:59] <kneeki> kane77: Try http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53550486/
[10:00] <pkl_> kusit911: ah, I was hoping they'd be the filesystem type.  Do this.. First mount the filesystem, then do a 'df' and copy the line with your /mnt/mdk mount, that will say how big it is, and how much free space there is.
[10:00] <TR>      Disks C: 145.18 of 153.38 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <TR>           D: 41.04 of 1397.06 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <TR>           F: 16.04 of 838.12 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <TR>           G: 7.6 of 838.38 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <TR>           H: 93.89 of 111.75 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <kane77> kneeki, thx a lot...
[10:00] <TR>           I: 5.75 of 298.09 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <TR>           K: 31.31 of 74.53 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <TR>           L: 227.94 of 372.61 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <kerik> can anyone help me out on an update issue?
[10:00] <TR>           M: 25.55 of 931.37 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <Vagant> Death_Sargent... :)
[10:00] <JimTB> really? ATI binary drivers?
[10:00] <TR>           Q: 448.77 of 465.76 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <TR>           T: 54.8 of 838.44 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <ytsestef> psusi: then, I edit device.map and direct hd0 to /dev/sda1, right? I guess that might be the case... although I think that this kind of error would at least get me to the grub menu and THEN fail, I will try..
[10:00] <TR>           V: 82.25 of 279.47 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <kusit911> pkl_: one min
[10:00] <TR>           W: 20 of 111.78 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <kane77> !paste | TR
[10:00] <ubotu> TR: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:00] <TR>           X: 21.82 of 233.75 GB  File System: NTFS
[10:00] <eobanb> oy vey.
[10:00] <slytherin> TR plkease don't paste here
[10:00] <Glos_WiFi> kerik whats happening?
[10:00] <kneeki> kane77: np np
[10:00] <jrib> TR: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[10:00] <flav_u> Merci, c'est bon pour les mp  ;)
[10:00] <psusi> ytsestef: no, just sda, no 1
[10:00] <Death_Sargent> good god
[10:01] <Death_Sargent> stay in or out
[10:01] <flav_u> oops
[10:01] <Alan> right, so the next question is... how do i get Gnome to manage my partitions in the same way it does with ones that were present at the start ?
[10:01] <eobanb> that's a good way to have people not help you
[10:01] <Death_Sargent> I can't take all these system messages
[10:01] <ytsestef> psusi: yes, you're right
[10:01] <Death_Sargent> damn neer imposible to talk
[10:01] <[g2] > anyone know if you can install feisty to only a external usb 2.0 disk (no internal disks) ?  Will that boot fine ? Is rootdelay= needed ?
[10:01] <eobanb> [g2] , it depends on whether your motherboard can boot from USB
[10:01] <Paul_UK> hey what is the channel for ubuntu devs?
[10:01] <Alan> for example, i have one that i told it not to use and its not in /etc/fstab yet if i double-click it it mounts to /media/disk
[10:01] <jrib> Death_Sargent: tell your client to ignore them
[10:01] <kerik> Glos_WiFi: I'm trying to update from Dapper to Edgy...but it says that it cannot get down the package needed to perform the update...It says that I should check my connection to internet, but it's working alright
[10:01] <CapaH> How can I see what my present screen resolution is set to?
 is should work just fine
[10:01] <jrib> Paul_UK: #ubuntu-devel
[10:01] <JimTB> I hope you're right, because in ati.amd.com I see this:
[10:01] <JimTB> XFree86 4.3 and X.Org 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1
[10:01] <Paul_UK> thanks
[10:02] <[g2] > eobanb, I think the mother board can, I'm wondering about the rootfs delay
[10:02] <apo> Meh. Still "direct rendering: No"
[10:02] <TR> l8trs all ..have phun linuxing (ms client here).
[10:02] <JimTB> maybe their info is out of date
[10:02] <tdn> I have just installed Feisty from the CD. But I do not have any multimedia codecs. How to get them?
[10:02] <Death_Sargent> anyone know why the site is so shitty right now?
[10:02] <[tpm] > Anyone running ubuntu-server on a Dell PowerEdge 860
[10:02] <EmxBA> it's overloaded, Death_Sargent
[10:02] <eobanb> !language
[10:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:02] <schwagner> Death_Sargent, there's an option in XChat to disable join-part messages
[10:02] <konam_> I see an error in the template of the ubuntu homepage at: ubuntu.com under the ubuntu 7.04 title, am i the only one?
[10:02] <Glos_WiFi> no the server is seriously stressed atm thats y
[10:03] <Glos_WiFi> 2 many people upgrading at the same time
[10:03] <Glos_WiFi> i think
[10:03] <KeithWeisshar> are there any torrents for ubuntu 7.04
[10:03] <kusit911> pkl_: here's the first line of 'df': /dev/hda1               489992    305069    159623  66% /
[10:03] <kerik> Glos_WiFi: can that be why I cannot update, cause the server is overloaded?
[10:03] <deepsa> why are there so much less seeders?
[10:03] <schwagner> KeithWeisshar, there are, check the slashdot thread, there's a bunch listed
[10:03] <jrib> !feisty > KeithWeisshar    (KeithWeisshar, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:03] <Glos_WiFi> i think Virgin Media has one for the UK, il see if i can find it now
[10:03] <mre_> I can't update either
[10:03] <psusi> ytsestef: once you have hd0 pointing to sda in devices.map, and menu.lst specifying (hd0,0) ( assuming that /boot is on /dev/sda1 ) reinstall grub and it should work
[10:04] <Glos_WiFi> kerik: maybe
[10:04] <Nergar> witch mirror should i use to apt-get???
[10:04] <Pie-rate> only 2 more pages of little brats to call and tell them they have received a special award for their science fair projects!
[10:04] <kerik> Glos_WiFi: thanks...guess I will come back tomorrow to try again...or the day after...
[10:04] <EmxBA> Nergar: try archive.ubuntu.com.ba
[10:04] <kerik> see you guys
[10:04] <mstevens> where can I find a torrent?
[10:04] <Nergar> EmxBA, thats from where??
[10:04] <Pie-rate> mstevens: ubuntu.com right on the front page
[10:04] <Glos_WiFi> here ya go guys, free FTP server (i think) http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/
[10:05] <EmxBA> Bosnia, pretty fast, Nergar
[10:05] <EmxBA> Bosnia and Herzegovina, Europe
[10:05] <kenu> krakow.irc.pl
[10:05] <Glos_WiFi> theres torrents on that link aswell btw
[10:05] <lieter> Hi, i cant update my repositories, i think the servers are having a hard time?
[10:05] <eGGstain> here is a link to all the torrent files that I downloaded from releases.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <kjm> i installed RC 10 days ago, automatic updates would take care of upgrading to "official", correct?
[10:05] <pkl_> kusit911: you want the /mnt/mdk line... Type this df | grep "/mnt/mdk"
[10:05] <Nergar> no language problems EmxBA?? :)
[10:05] <Jump86> how has the upgrade been working so far?
[10:05] <eGGstain> http://eggstain.com/torrents
[10:05] <Puppy_> Does anyone have the MD5 checksum value for feisty, or can someone give me a link? I'm having no luck accessing anything but the homepage on the main site.
[10:05] <Pelo> kjm, yes
[10:05] <Glos_WiFi> jump86: mine was a pain to kick in
[10:05] <EmxBA> lieter: try other server
[10:06] <kjm> Pelo - thx
[10:06] <Glos_WiFi> Puppy_: look here http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/
[10:06] <octet> savvas / EmxBA: on jigdo: I noticed for kubuntu to be the dvd iso the same as yesterdays daily build, that one did provide jigdo files. Maybe the same for Ubuntu? You could check both MD5 checksums
[10:06] <Jump86> anyone have a perfectly smooth upgrade?
[10:06] <Pelo> what is this checksum stuff ?
[10:06] <jrib> Puppy_: any of the mirros will have a file called MD5SUMS
[10:06] <Ph3NoMeN0> anyone have issues with amsn 0.95-6 or 0.97 after upgrading to feisty? I see strange fonts in the menus....
[10:06] <lieter> EmxBA, i'm using the dutch mirror, can i change the mirror without changing my sources.list?
[10:06] <matason> Hi is there somewhere I can compare the features of Ubuntu releases? I'm on Dapper and I want to find out whether it's worth upgrading...
[10:06] <EmxBA> PLEASE DON'T USE UBUNTU.COM REPOSITORIES BECAUSE THEY'R OVERLOADED; TRY ANOTHER SERVERS (no, I'm not shouting, I just want everyone to be noticed)
[10:06] <Puppy_> Glos_WiFi: thanks
[10:07] <Glos_WiFi> Puppy_: np
[10:07] <EmxBA> lieter: you can modify that file, or let synaptic do that
[10:07] <psusi> bit torrent for the win
[10:07] <kusit911> pkl_: here   489992    305069    159623  66% /mnt/mdk
[10:07] <Nergar> EmxBA, just find new option in synaptic, search for best server :)
[10:07] <milage> Hello.
[10:07] <Pelo> psusi,  bittorrent isn'T just for win it works on lin to ...
[10:07] <Shafto> !hi | milage
[10:07] <ubotu> milage: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:07] <vdavidoff> i have a preseed.cfg that passes parsing tests by debconf-set-selections but when i try to use it partman drops me to the partitioning menu and won't accept my expert recipe.  ideas?  7.04, same problem with 6.10.
[10:07] <disasm> Nergar: yeah, I saw that with feisty beta, pretty slick
[10:07] <KeithWeisshar> are torrents faster than ftp
[10:07] <psusi> Pelo: rofl
[10:08] <Pelo> KeithWeisshar,  generaly
[10:08] <milage> Got a question, might be a rather newbie-like question, but that sounds about right, because that
[10:08] <milage> that's what I am
[10:08] <rai7> does anyone know how to change the GRUB loader so it doesn't auto load after some time?
[10:08] <milage> How do I shut down X? :p
[10:08] <milage> I need to do that to install the nvidia drivers
[10:08] <Pelo> KeithWeisshar,   contrary to ftp, the more ppl try to dl a torrent the faster it goes
[10:08] <dystopianray> milage: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:08] <psusi> rai7: change the timeout value to 0 in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:08] <CapaH> Why is it if I go to System Settings | Monitor and Display --- even after I click "Administrator Mode" I cannot change any of the settings?
[10:08] <dystopianray> milage: oh, just ctrl+alt+backspace if it's just nvidia drivers
[10:08] <milage> all right
[10:08] <rai7> thanks psusi
[10:08] <milage> While we're at it, how do I restart it without restarting the PC?
[10:08] <eGGstain> i got the iso in 45 minutes with these torrent files - http://eggstain.com/torrents/
[10:09] <allquixotic> Hi, what is everyone's experiences with the many sound architectures and possible nestings? Is anyone using JACK? I'm trying to enable support for as many protocols as possible of (JACK, aRts, ALSA, OSS, ESD) at the same time, because so many apps support only one of them.
[10:09] <Nergar> disasm, very usefull right now
[10:09] <Pelo> rai7,   addugt the time in sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[10:09] <psycho78> can I upgrade from edgy using an Ubuntu feisty CD?
[10:09] <Shafto> milage, ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:09] <milage> dystopianray: i did that, but the GUI restarted automatically
[10:09] <burzum_> hi
[10:09] <mwe> !gksudo
[10:09] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[10:09] <variant> milage: ctrl alt backspace will _restart_ x, not shut it down
[10:09] <milage> that's right
[10:09] <Glos_WiFi> is anyone having problems with WiFi cards in Fiesty that worked in Edgy?
[10:09] <milage> I need it to stay dead for a while :p
[10:10] <robinlinth> Can anybody help me? When i log in, it doesn't start the window manager... I have no window borders
[10:10] <variant> milage: /etc/init.d/gdm stop will stop it untill you run /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:10] <pkl_> kusit911: and this is the mount which you're saying is out of room?  The df states there's 150 Mbytes free.
[10:10] <dystopianray> milage: you don't need to completely stop X to install nvidia drivers
[10:10] <Pelo> robinlinth,   using compiz or beryl ?
[10:10] <variant> milage: if your using kubuntut hat would be kdm
[10:10] <kusit911> yes
[10:10] <milage> that's what nividia told me, though
[10:10] <burzum_> i have 2 monitors but edgy is running on the "wrong" monitor, i want it using my big 21" screen, how can i change that?
[10:10] <robinlinth> Pelo, no
[10:10] <milage> nvidia*
[10:10] <dystopianray> milage: install one of the nvidia-glx packages, change the driver to "nvidia" in xorg.conf, then ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:10] <Glos_WiFi> milage: try ctrl + alt + F2
[10:10] <kusit911> pkl_:  its out
[10:10] <variant> Glos_WiFi: x will still be running
[10:10] <pkl_> kusit911: what error message do you get?
[10:10] <Pelo> robinlinth,  I don'T know then
[10:10] <dystopianray> milage: don't install from nvidia's site
[10:10] <dystopianray> milage: install from the ubuntu repos
[10:10] <robinlinth> Pelo, :(
[10:10] <Rictoo> damn it
[10:10] <milage> okay :p
[10:10] <dystopianray> milage: what card do you have?
[10:10] <Glos_WiFi> then just type /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:11] <milage> 6600
[10:11] <Rictoo> to upgrade to feisty, adept is forcing me to install jre6, but I ALREADY HAVE IT
[10:11] <Rictoo> IT JUST DOESN'T SEE IT
[10:11] <variant> milage: yeah, i fyou are trying to install the nvidia drivers there are better ways to do it than the nvidia installer
[10:11] <Rictoo> so how do I maek it forget about it?
[10:11] <teicah> by 10pm est .. feisty will be having its way with this good ol' computer.. ill tell ya what
[10:11] <vdavidoff> i have a preseed.cfg that passes parsing tests by debconf-set-selections but when i try to use it partman drops me to the partitioning menu and won't accept my expert recipe.  ideas?  7.04, same problem with 6.10.
[10:11] <hackle577> hey guys, I am in a Fiesty LiveCD now and it works fine, but while it was booting, it hung for a few minutes and gave me a disturbing looking error that read: "Buffer I/O error on device fd0 [my CD-ROM dive]  logical block 0. Is this something to be worried about?
[10:11] <milage> Okay then
[10:11] <variant> Glos_WiFi: thanks im sure but several people have told him that already :)
[10:11] <dystopianray> hackle577: fd0 is a floppy device
[10:11] <IdleOne> Rictoo: let it install it might be an update
[10:11] <variant> hackle577: fd0 is your floppy
[10:11] <vi0> hiya guyes, need help with bcm43xx wifi (the ndiswrapper method doesn't work)
[10:11] <apo> http://tjugotre.org/fglrx < Some messages from my X logs... any ideas? :/
[10:11] <Rictoo> IdleOne: No
[10:11] <Rictoo> I already have it
[10:11] <hackle577> variant: eff that's right
[10:11] <cubicism> I find an illegal site selling illegal ubuntu mod chips. How do I go about reporting a site to the DMCA?
[10:11] <Rictoo> I have javase6
[10:11] <kusit911> pkl_:  don't remember exactly but when i tried copying files to the image i was out of space
[10:11] <Glos_WiFi> variant: just getting the message across :P many times works better then just once
[10:11] <dystopianray> milage: what video card do you have?
[10:11] <milage> Thanks all
[10:12] <AngryElf_> does feisty have sweet little popups from firefox that instead of the crappy "no plugin fd:/ whatever" it actually tells you what plugins you need?
[10:12] <psycho78> clear
[10:12] <hackle577> variant: i dont have a floppy drive
[10:12] <milage> 6600 256 MB
[10:12] <variant> hackle577: thats why it's stalling then
[10:12] <robinlinth> Can anybody help me? When i log in (into GNOME), it doesn't start the window manager... I have no window borders.. Metacity doesn't run
[10:12] <burzum_> i have 2 monitors but edgy is running on the "wrong" monitor, i want it using my big 21" screen, how can i change that?
[10:12] <kusit911> pkl_:  do you know how i can edit the image?
[10:12] <variant> hackle577: sounds like a bug to me
[10:12] <burzum_> ehh feisty
[10:12] <pkl_> kusit911: you may be out of inodes, rather than data space.
[10:12] <jrib> robinlinth: are you using compiz or beryl?
[10:12] <hackle577> variant: ah so it's not necessarily bad then?
[10:12] <robinlinth> jrib, just metacity
[10:12] <variant> hackle577: i wouldn't worry about it if it only happens in the live cd
[10:12] <hollero> im upgrading from edgy to feisty and followed all the instructions onscreen, but the distribution upgrader doesn't seem to get further than 'Modifying software channels' in 'Fetching file 21 of 24'... what can be done?
[10:12] <kusit911> pkl_:  i dont even know what type it is....
[10:12] <dv5237_> ubuntu is just getting better and better
[10:12] <pngwen> What happened to upgrading from cdrom?  Is feisty only upgradeable via the internet?
[10:12] <jrib> robinlinth: check ~/.xsession-errors
[10:12] <hackle577> variant: ok thanks!
[10:12] <variant> hackle577: probably totaly insignificant
[10:12] <hiways85> {Laa iLaaha iLLaL Laah = there is no god except Allah}  ............  ... Religion  Islam is flawless
[10:12] <dystopianray> milage: install nvidia-glx, set the driver to 'nvidia' in xorg.conf, then ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:12] <vi0> hollero: known problem
[10:12] <pkl_> kusit911: cd into  /mnt/mdk/tmp .  How many files are there?
[10:12] <allquixotic> How do I use JACK without running all my apps as root?
[10:13] <milage> I'll try that
[10:13] <kusit911> pkl_:  whats that?
[10:13] <robinlinth> jrib, its empty
[10:13] <cedricshock> pngwen: It's upgradable via the alternate install cd
[10:13] <cubicism> allquixotic: dude dont use jack use ubuntu
[10:13] <variant> hiways85: this channel is for ubuntu support..
[10:13] <hollero> vi0: where can i look it up?
[10:13] <jrib> robinlinth: does it happen with a new user?
[10:13] <nir_ai> is it reasonable to have a main partition of 30GB, or is it too small? Does Linux software know to install on other partitions by default?
[10:13] <nexous> How do I remove all sounds at splash screen/login. I keep getting a drum beat, but on login window options, sounds are off.
[10:13] <allquixotic> cubicism: Hello? I'm using ubuntu. JACK is an audio server. http://jackit.sourceforge.net
[10:13] <disasm> Nergar: yeah, it's kinda funny though, you get that feature *after* you dist-upgrade on the slow server ;-)
[10:13] <variant> !jack | allquixotic
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <milage> does it matter whether i use aptitude or synaptic?
[10:13] <OatTop> What's the best way to get emacs 22 on Feisty Fawn?
[10:13] <hollero> vi0: everything ok
[10:13] <pngwen> cedricshock: ah, ok.  Wish I knew that before downloading the desktop cd.  It seems this is a new "feature" of the distro.
[10:13] <variant> milage: it doesn't matter
[10:13] <allquixotic> variant: nice try ;)
[10:13] <cubicism> allquixotic: why are u using jack if ur using the ubuntu then
[10:13] <robinlinth> jrib, well, i've just upgraded to Feisty from Edgy and some problems have showed up, like this one.
[10:13] <Pelo> nexous,   look under system > prefs > sounds
[10:13] <dystopianray> nir_ai: it depends on where you mount the partitions
[10:13] <vi0> hollero: use this guide.. http://jhcore.com/2007/03/23/upgrade-to-feisty-fawn-from-edgy/
[10:14] <variant> cubicism: you don't know what jack is
[10:14] <Glos_WiFi> eep!!! my wifi isnt detected in feisty
[10:14] <jrib> robinlinth: k, try a new user so we can see if it's a config issue
[10:14] <nir_ai> dystopianray: what do you mean?
[10:14] <dystopianray> nir_ai: installations have no knowledge of physical disks, they'll install into /usr, what partition that is depends on what you mount there
[10:14] <cubicism> variant: dude im a linux expert
[10:14] <pkl_> kusit911: a filesystem when created, has a maximum number of files it can hold (called inodes).  You will get out of space, if either you've run of data space or inodes.
[10:14] <Pelo> Glos_WiFi,   #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <SeveredCross> Pelo: Uh.
[10:14] <dystopianray> nir_ai: i take you are unfamiliar with the basics of unix filesystems?
[10:14] <variant> cubicism: ok, you seem to think that jack is a distro..
[10:14] <tag> Every save-as dialog in feisty jumps back and forth strangely
[10:14] <NessieLiberation> any idea how long until the servers get back to vague normality?
[10:14] <cubicism> variant: dude its a linux
[10:14] <SeveredCross> There is no #Ubuntu+1 at the moment, since the current release is Feisty.
[10:14] <T0uCH> does the installation from upgrades manager work for someone?
[10:14] <cedricshock> Are there mirrors of archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:15] <nir_ai> dystopianray: that's right
[10:15] <psycho78> is it possible to upgrade from edgy using the feisty install cd?
[10:15] <hollero> vi0: thx
[10:15] <cubicism> cedricshock: no
[10:15] <nexous> Thanks
[10:15] <Vaske_Car> what is the command to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
[10:15] <SeveredCross> TOuCH: Worked for me, though I had to change my sources.list from edgy to feisty.
[10:15] <kusit911> pkl_:  how can i change the inode?
[10:15] <allquixotic> cubicism, variant: ubuntu comes with an (extremely rudimentary) sound configuration. Some apps I use want only esd; Some apps I use only want ALSA; some apps I use only want OSS. I can't change what design choices app vendors take; I CAN attempt to get my system to support as many audio interfaces as possible so I can use programs like TeamSpeak and idjc and Amarok and KDE at the same time. I've been trying various levels of nesting
[10:15] <allquixotic> sound servers, dmix, everything - I just can't get a good config that works.
[10:15] <SeveredCross> Now dist-upgrade is running.
[10:15] <variant> cubicism: lets see the home page then please
[10:15] <dystopianray> nir_ai: installed programs go to /usr, if you want them installed on a different partition, you mount that partition on /usr
[10:15] <apo> Vaske_Car: sudo update-manager -c -d
[10:15] <jrib> Vaske_Car: Your question is answered in the FAQ which is linked in the channel's topic.  You can view the channel's topic at any time by typing:    /topic
[10:15] <robinlinth> jrib, new user doesn't have the problem.
[10:15] <cubicism> allquixotic: yeah so use linux like the rest of us and get away from windows
[10:15] <T0uCH> SeveredCross:  how do you do that?
[10:15] <vi0> hollero: i'm not sure it will work (i did for me), good luck
[10:15] <NET||abuse> Hi guys.. i've an amd64 here,, how do i run flash??
[10:15] <DSpair> Geez.. I'm not gonna get anything done today. The update sites much be dogged.
[10:15] <allquixotic> variant, cubicism: I even have apps that *require* JACK! Ridiculous, huh?
[10:16] <Vaske_Car> apo, is 7.04 stable and safe to upgrade over 6.10?
[10:16] <robinlinth> jrib, new user doesn't have the problem.
[10:16] <Oatmeat> Is there a way to change how new windows are always placed in the top left corner?
[10:16] <jrib> robinlinth: ok, do you have any apps starting up on startup?
[10:16] <SeveredCross> T0uCH: You can also use the method that someone just gave above of sudo update-manager -c -d though that iddn't work for me
[10:16] <pkl_> kusit911: you can't.  The filesystem at creation type decides how many inodes to use (based on the image size)...  You can force it to use more inodes, but only at creation time.
[10:16] <robinlinth> hmm, let me look
[10:16] <apo> Vaske_Car: I don't know. I've upgraded a few minutes ago, and so far nothing that worked before doesn't work.
[10:16] <nir_ai> dystopianray: but then I only see part of the installed software at a given time. is this true?
[10:16] <robinlinth> Yes, just the normal ones.
[10:16] <robinlinth> jrib: Yes, just the normal ones.
[10:16] <Skyhook> hey all, i got a question, is it better to partition in windows xp before installing ubuntu, or by using the one with the installer
[10:16] <cedricshock> Vaske_Car: Not today, the servers are too swamped and the upgrade-manager doesn't seem to recover gracefully from being run part-way.
[10:16] <sharperguy> how comes the repos are suddenly non-authenticated? (feisty)
[10:16] <kusit911> pkl_:  how can i create a new one with same files?
[10:16] <pkl_> kusit911: do 'cat /proc/mounts | grep /mnt/mdk'
[10:17] <T0uCH> it loading riaght now.. but it stuck at files 33 sinces 20 min
[10:17] <variant> cubicism: jack is a sound server which runs on the top of whatever distro u use
[10:17] <dystopianray> nir_ai: tell the installer to use the partition for /usr and everything will go onto that partition
[10:17] <DSpair> Vaske_Car: I've had little or no problems with one exception... VPNc does not work with some older Cisco gateways. IT will disconnect after 30 seconds.
[10:17] <SeveredCross> I'm on file 108
[10:17] <SeveredCross> 4 hours remaining.
[10:17] <kalikiana> My system froze now completely two times, every time during a fusesmb file movement.
[10:17] <kalikiana> Does anyone know about this? It has only happen recently but I have been using fusesmb for weeks.
[10:17] <apo> variant: Just ignore him
[10:17] <Nergar> disasm, lmao!
[10:17] <cubicism> SeveredCross: haha serves u right
[10:17] <SeveredCross> Nah, I don't mind waitnig.
[10:17] <jrib>  robinlinth I can't think of what is doing it, just try renaming files that contain configuration options until you figure it out.  For example, try renaming ~/.gnome2 to ~/.gnome2.backup
[10:17] <royel> exit
[10:17] <robinlinth> jrib, but then every gnome setting will be gone
[10:17] <kusit911> pkl_:  /dev/loop0 /mnt/mdk ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[10:18] <robinlinth> and i will be required to reconfigure everything
[10:18] <variant> cubicism: ah, sorry, it seems that you are a troll.   I need the Edgy deb-src for nvidia-glx
[10:18] <jrib> robinlinth: but then you will know it is a gnome setting.  Then you can restore the backup and refine your renaming
[10:18] <Glos_WiFi> i think im going to have to install 6.10 again :( untill i can find a wifi guide for my card, and hopefully some point soon, my audio
[10:18] <robinlinth> ok
[10:18] <nir_ai> dystopianray: if I switch /usr to another partition a month from now, all the software already installed will just "disappear"?
[10:18] <jrib> Pollywog: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <IdleOne> variant: as funny as that was please dont :)
[10:18] <christop> quick question: what's the difference between the dc and dvd version of ubuntu?
[10:18] <Pollywog> jrib: tnx
[10:18] <DSpair> Vaske_Car: Where'd you see the message?
[10:18] <wick2o> christop: more stuff
[10:18] <pkl_> kusit911: we're going to create a 1GB filesystem with lots of inodes.
[10:19] <Vaske_Car> DSpair, after executing distro upgrade command
[10:19] <cubicism> christop: ones on a cd and ones on a dvd, depends on if u have a dvd or a cd burner
[10:19] <dystopianray> nir_ai: that's right, if you want to permanently use another parition, then you must move the existing files onto that partition
[10:19] <kusit911> pkl_:  good
[10:19] <DSpair> Vaske_Car: After a particular package?
[10:19] <Rictoo> -.-
[10:19] <nir_ai> dystopianray: interesting.
[10:19] <christop> wick2o and cubicism, basically just common packages then?
[10:19] <Rictoo> The ubuntu servers are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo slow right now
[10:19] <hendrik_> ?? The jigdo files refer to update-manager version 0.59.19, but the repository has 0.59.19. So jigdo-lite fails. Any work-around?
[10:19] <cubicism> christop: yea
[10:19] <nexous> Where can I get boot screens for 6.10?
[10:19] <Rictoo> XD
[10:19] <Vaske_Car> DSpair, no
[10:19] <rai7> Wow... are the ubuntu servers being hosed?
[10:19] <Glos_WiFi> Rictoo: use this mirror http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/
[10:20] <SeveredCross> rai7: It's dist-upgrade day. :)
[10:20] <cubicism> Rictoo: dude stop complaining ubuntu have worked so hard for this day and all u do is complain go back to windows if u dont like it
[10:20] <Rictoo> =p
[10:20] <Rictoo> yeah
[10:20] <SeveredCross> Since Feisty just came out otday.
[10:20] <Rictoo> err
[10:20] <DSpair> Rictoo: That's why I gave up on working on my SVN_DAV repository. I can't install any packages.
[10:20] <Rictoo> cubicism: I'm not complaining
[10:20] <Rictoo> wtf?
[10:20] <rai7> Oh right heh
[10:20] <dystopianray> nir_ai: every filesystem is mounted somewhere in the / hierarchy, there is no concept of seperate hierarchies for different devices
[10:20] <T0uCH> that why im stuck at preparing install??
[10:20] <hendrik_> Sorry, the repo has update-manager 0.59.20
[10:20] <Rictoo> cubicism: WTF
[10:20] <xtknight> cubicism, Rictoo come on
[10:20] <Rictoo> THAT WAS NOT NECCESARY
[10:20] <Glos_WiFi> getting 500kb/s from that mirror
[10:20] <xtknight> what's the problem
[10:20] <xtknight> question?
[10:20] <ed_testeer> can someone please point me to a forum for networking issues on ubuntu ?
[10:20] <Rictoo> I never said I didn't like ubuntu
[10:20] <Rictoo> xtknight: I just said that the ubuntus ervers are slow as hell
[10:20] <cubicism> xtknight: Rictoo is ratting on ubuntus hard work
[10:20] <DSpair> Vaske_Car: Do me a favor. Paste the contents of your screen to the paste site and give me a link.
[10:20] <Rictoo> and he said that I should go back to windows
[10:20] <xtknight> servers are a bit slow
[10:20] <nir_ai> dystopianray: so I can actually move the entire installation to a new partition in this manner?
[10:21] <xtknight> seed the torrent
[10:21] <Rictoo> I know
[10:21] <SeveredCross> cubicism, stop trolling.
[10:21] <dystopianray> nir_ai: sure
[10:21] <Rictoo> Of course they are slow
[10:21] <Rictoo> since everyones updating today
[10:21] <xtknight> yeah
[10:21] <Vaske_Car> DSpair, just a sec
[10:21] <pkl_> kusit911: type 'dd if=/dev/zero of=new-fs.img bs=1024 count=1048576'
[10:21] <xtknight> money doesnt come from trees yo uknow
[10:21] <dystopianray> nir_ai: but you must remember to update /etc/fstab
[10:21] <pkl_> kusit911: this may take a while.
[10:21] <nexous> Anyone know where to get boot screens for ubuntu 6.10
[10:21] <pngwen> xtknight: actually, being printed on paper... it kind of does :)
[10:21] <dystopianray> nir_ai: so that it knows what to mount and where
[10:21] <xtknight> !usplash
[10:21] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:21] <E42> hi
[10:21] <ma3x> how can I install ppracer?
[10:21] <xtknight> pngwen, i never thought of it that way ; )
[10:21] <cubicism> Rictoo: than stop complaining!
[10:21] <ma3x> what is the package name?
[10:22] <Rictoo> cubicism: I'm not complaining about Ubuntu, am I?
[10:22] <hackle577> anyone wanna help me upgrade using a Feisty LiveCD? I'm not quite sure how the partitioner works...
[10:22] <E42> anyone knows ho to mount a empty cd-r
[10:22] <milage> okay
[10:22] <nir_ai> i'll drop by for assistance when the day to move partitions arrives.
[10:22] <DSpair> ma3x: Try "aptitude search ppracer"
[10:22] <milage> time to see if this driver works
[10:22] <cubicism> Rictoo: um, yes u are. just stop, okay
[10:22] <jrib> ma3x: apt-cache search planet penguin racer
[10:22] <xtknight> E42, empty cd-rs cant really be mounted
[10:22] <echnaton> hi, do you know why my samsung x11 isnt able to switch on the monitor after suspend2ram?! howt to fix that problem?
[10:22] <kmarius> where's the torrent for the feisty dvd? could anyone give me a link please?
[10:22] <apo> Hm
[10:22] <Rictoo> cubicism: I'm not letting you have the last word in your pathetic argument
[10:22] <robinlinth> jrib, didnt help
[10:22] <xtknight> echnaton, relatively recent monitor?
[10:22] <|NewUser|> whenever i try to mount a partition i get an error Like " mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist "
[10:22] <Vaske_Car> DSpair, http://www.pastebin.ca/448669
[10:22] <Rictoo> I wasn't even complaining about the servers
[10:22] <jrib> robinlinth: try ~/.gconf*
[10:22] <robinlinth> jrib, I can run metacity manually though, in a terminal.
[10:22] <julio_> Any estimates as to when the repositories will be working again?
[10:22] <robinlinth> ok
[10:22] <apo> I wonder if reinstalling Feisty from an install CD would solve my DRI problems...
[10:22] <DSpair> Vaske_Car: Wait one...
[10:22] <Rictoo> just mentioning how they were very slow
[10:22] <jrib> robinlinth: oh, interesting
[10:23] <xtknight> torrent the final cd and avoid hammering the official servers
[10:23] <E42> xtknight , so what shall i do , there was a time i just inserted it and it apeared as " EMPTY CD" so i just started k3b and burned but now i insert the cd but nothing appears and the cd dont starts to read
[10:23] <cedricshock> cubicism: thanks for the WRONG answer. It appears there are quite a few mirrors of archive.ubuntu.org.
[10:23] <xtknight> im getting 160k/sec off torrent
[10:23] <Roger_The_Bum> :D
[10:23] <xtknight> and it's getting higher and higher
[10:23] <hackle577> anyone wanna help me upgrade using a Feisty LiveCD? I'm not quite sure how the partitioner works...
[10:23] <echnaton> yes its the notebook lcd
[10:23] <cubicism> cedricshock: np
[10:23] <DSpair> Vaske_Car: Try this command instead.... "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:23] <robinlinth> jrib, didn't help
[10:23] <milage> It's working, thanks
[10:23] <xtknight> E42, hmm maybe you need to completely unmount the cd ?
[10:23] <Flare183> do you have to uninstall Beryl before you upgrade to Fiesty?
[10:23] <milage> Oh yeah, looks a lot nicer now
[10:24] <SeveredCross> I don't see why you should have to Flare183.
[10:24] <xtknight> Flare183, it would avoid further conflicts, yes
[10:24] <E42> xtknight ,how ?
[10:24] <Vaske_Car> DSpair, I am installing updates at the moment, right after that I will try that command
[10:24] <Glos_WiFi> wow i knew gateways were bad for anything other then Xp, but this is rediculous
[10:24] <robinlinth> jrib, didn't help
[10:24] <SeveredCross> Oh, right, feisty installs compiz
[10:24] <Rictoo> guys
[10:24] <Roger_The_Bum> is 7.04 out for powerpc?
[10:24] <vi0> i know you guyes are busy, but i need help/assistence installing my wlan (broadcom) driver, please help me (the ndiswrapper method did not work for me)
[10:24] <Rictoo> 152405 cubicism and u just said their work was shit
[10:24] <Flare183> oh no
[10:24] <Rictoo> 152405 cubicism and u just said their work was shit
[10:24] <xtknight> E42, generally ejecting it helps.  try putting it another cd.  does it read then?  if that cd reads then eject tha tand put in the original again to completely wipe the buffer
[10:24] <Glos_WiFi> Flare183: no i didnt and that still works
[10:24] <E42> xtknight , maybe its the fstab ? there was my burner /dev/hdc  and an atribute noauto
[10:24] <Rictoo> Did I say that?
[10:24] <P-K> anyone else getting slow connections to security.ubunu.com?
[10:24] <Rictoo> When did I say the Ubuntu dev's work was shit?
[10:24] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Rictoo
[10:24] <Flare183> just now
[10:24] <ubotu> Rictoo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:24] <Glos_WiFi> Flare183: only thing thats still working now though :(
[10:24] <xtknight> E42, gnome hal mounter is independent of fstab AFAIK (it uses preferences.fdi instead)
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Rictoo
[10:24] <echnaton> its only the lcd that isnt able to come up again after suspend2ram
[10:24] <SeveredCross> P-K: You and everyone else. :)
[10:24] <musya> so i take it 7.04 is out?
[10:24] <echnaton> i thought thats an xorg problem
[10:24] <nir_ai> dystopianray: I am a Windows developer. I discovered Ubuntu 2 month ago when developing os-indiferent software (in Python) and was amazed. Now I want to attempt a gradual switch to Ubuntu...!
[10:24] <echnaton> isnt it?!
[10:24] <Roger_The_Bum> or is that architecture (sp?) no longer under active development
[10:25] <SeveredCross> P-K: It's dist-upgrade day, 7.04 just came out.
[10:25] <DSpair> Vaske_Car: Good luck.... The servers are HAMMERED right now... Updates could take some time.
[10:25] <Flare183> because i am upagrding to fiesty now and i have beryl working so what
[10:25] <Roger_The_Bum> musya, yes
[10:25] <xtknight> maybe a torrent system for apt-get would be a  good idea
[10:25] <E42> xtknight , only empty cd dont get read
[10:25] <robinlinth> jrib, didn't help
[10:25] <musya> whats the biggest diiference?
[10:25] <milage> Strange though, my monitor is still stuck in 60hz
[10:25] <LjL> xtknight: google "apt-torrent"
[10:25] <hackle577> anyone wanna help me upgrade using a Feisty LiveCD? I'm not quite sure how the partitioner works...
[10:25] <P-K> ahhhhh!
[10:25] <E42> xtknight , well i got xfce
[10:25] <milage> it's an lcd, so it's not bad
[10:25] <jrib> robinlinth: ok, hold on, I saw the first time :)
[10:25] <milage> but it can do 75
[10:25] <robinlinth> jrib, ok
[10:25] <E42> xtknight , not gnome;/
[10:25] <defuego> is an upgrade from dapper to feisty possable through update manager ?
[10:25] <LjL> defuego: only by going through edgy
[10:25] <Geoffrey2> where can I find the torrent file for Feisty?  can't seen to locate it on Ubuntu's web site
[10:25] <xtknight> defuego, probably, not that it's a graet idea
[10:25] <Glos_WiFi> defuego: dont think so
[10:25] <dystopianray> nir_ai: well it's rather easy to move things to different partitions, just copy and update fstab
[10:25] <LjL> !feisty > Geoffrey2    (Geoffrey2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:25] <defuego> thanks
[10:25] <musya> i always though upgradeing needed to be done by reinstalling ubuntu
[10:25] <musya> but that sucks
[10:25] <kusit911> pkl_: after a little while it said 'no space left on device'.... but unless ubuntu feisty is more than 9gb by default it can't be ....
[10:25] <xtknight> Geoffrey2, topic of #ubuntu-release-party
[10:25] <junmin> hi guys. how can i install feisty in a box without floppy,cd-rom/dvdrom, and the matherborad doesnt support usb-disk bootup
[10:25] <Glos_WiFi> defuego: theat install need Edgy i think
[10:25] <craigbass1976> besides oscommerce (which is being a total pain) does anyone else know of some sort of opensource online store app?
[10:26] <Flare183> because i am upagrding to fiesty now and i have beryl working so what
[10:26] <bimberi> hackle577: you can't upgrade using the liveCD, only new install
[10:26] <xtknight> wow 1500 in here?
[10:26] <xtknight> :O
[10:26] <SeveredCross> .
[10:26] <nir_ai> dystopianray: thanks
[10:26] <Vaske_Car> DSpair, how to remove automatix2?
[10:26] <FYI> help: Bus error (core dumped)e... 0%
[10:26] <|NewUser|> whenever i try to mount a partition i get an error Like " mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist "
[10:26] <hackle577> bimberi: not if i don't format my /home partition
[10:26] <xtknight> E42, hmm well XFCE still uses gnome hal mounter, AFAIK
[10:26] <jrib> robinlinth: ~/.metacity  ?
[10:26] <xtknight> E42, xfce is more like gnome, it uses gdm, etc.  but regardless, i dont know what you mean by mounting a blank cd still
[10:26] <robinlinth> jrib, didn't help either. Did that already
[10:26] <craigbass1976> xtknight, Wow, hadn't noticed.  Wonder if that causes problems and there should be #ubuntu and #ubuntu-overflow
[10:26] <robinlinth> jrib, As a matter of fact: my old configuration is still there.
[10:26] <FYI> i get this error when trying to install something: Bus error (core dumped)e... 0%
[10:26] <cedricshock> Here's a nice list of mirrors for the archive, I wonder how I can use these to upgrade faster: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[10:27] <robinlinth> jrib, I removed it all and still it's all there!
[10:27] <E42> xtknight , oh well ok . Seems no one knows what i mean ;(
[10:27] <ferronica> any one here who have downloaded ubuntu 7.04 ?
[10:27] <Peaker> apt sources that are torrent:// could indeed be nice :-)
[10:27] <bimberi> hackle577: fair enough, though it's still really an install </pedantry> :)
[10:27] <vi0> !bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:27] <jrib> robinlinth: how did you remove it?
[10:27] <kmarius> again, could somebody please give me a link for the official feisty dvd??
[10:27] <EmxBA> me, ferronica
[10:27] <robinlinth> jrib, commandline, rm -r
[10:27] <xtknight> craigbass1976, doesnt seem to be too overflowed to me
[10:27] <Prez> anyone upgrade to feisty on a thinkpad x60s?  about to hit ok and just wondering..
[10:27] <marshall> hey guys
[10:27] <robinlinth> jrib, quit gnome while doing it
[10:27] <kusit911> pkl_: also using df the / mount is: /dev/sda3             10902656   2616792   7732024  26% /
[10:27] <xtknight> E42, just need a bit of clarification
[10:27] <ferronica> EmxBA: How is it?
[10:27] <jrib> robinlinth: it probably saves when you log out
[10:27] <jonp> none of my usb devices initialize unless i unplug them and plug them in again after bootup, is this a common problem?
[10:27] <xtknight> E42, after your blank CD is burned, it can not recognize the new contents immediately?
[10:27] <musya> man ubuntu servers are taking a beating arnt they?
[10:27] <jrib> robinlinth: try logging out and then doing it
[10:27] <xtknight> yeah
[10:27] <robinlinth> jrib, Yeah, i logged out and then did it. Didn't help
[10:27] <musya> everything is slow
[10:27] <Glos_WiFi> wooooooo . . . . Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9755   How do i make them match?
[10:27] <marshall> how do you apply a patch file? (.diff file) im trying to get the mac menubar hack working
[10:28] <hackle577> bimberi: well the servers are so clogged right now my Edgy update manager stalls every time
[10:28] <Glos_WiFi> would a reinstall of X work do you think?
[10:28] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, reinstall sudo sh ./NVIDIA-installer.run or nvidia-glx*
[10:28] <EmxBA> cool, and I don't have a need to install it because I've been running feisty for more than two months
[10:28] <ferronica> EmxBA: better then ubuntu 6.10 or like that only?
[10:28] <jrib> robinlinth: don't know then.  But it does have to be some configuration that's user specific
[10:28] <EmxBA> better
[10:28] <pkl_> kusit911: are you in your chroot envrionment?
[10:28] <musya> i would wait to upgrade
[10:28] <Rictoo> guys
[10:28] <xtknight>  cat whine_the_servers_are_slow > /dev/null :)
[10:28] <robinlinth> jrib, i know, i just wanna remove all the old configurations
[10:28] <Rictoo> Do you support ubuntu?
[10:28] <robinlinth> jrib, how?
[10:28] <E42> xtknight , for example i burned some photos on a cd . My friends uses windows and as he inserted the cd . There apeared a window " this is a blank cd blalalala"
[10:28] <kusit911> pkl_: no... just mounted the image
[10:28] <Rictoo> because cubicism says you don't
[10:28] <marshall> how do you apply a patch file? (.diff file) im trying to get the mac menubar hack working
[10:28] <Rictoo> Do you guys support Kubuntu?
[10:28] <Rictoo> Or do you think it's a ripoff?
[10:29] <EmxBA> check this, ferronica : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour
[10:29] <marshall> Rictoo: #kubuntu
[10:29] <xtknight> !ignore
[10:29] <ubotu> If you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname
[10:29] <jrib> robinlinth: mv ~/.* ~/.backup_configs
[10:29] <Rictoo> ok
[10:29] <Rictoo> I'll ignore him
[10:29] <ferronica> jrib: i am using torrent to download ubuntu 7.04 is it okay to download from there?
[10:29] <bimberi> hackle577: yes, it usually happens this way at release.  Things'll settle down.  bittorenting the alternate CD and using it to upgrade could even be quicker.
[10:29] <Glos_WiFi> xtknight: they didnt work :(
[10:29] <jrib> ferronica: yep, that's probably the best way
[10:29] <xtknight> E42, well it appears that the CD is not getting burned, then??
[10:29] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, you tried them alreadY?
[10:29] <jonp> Rictoo: kubuntu is a sister project to ubuntu - it is not a 'ripoff'
[10:30] <Rictoo> I know
[10:30] <E42> xtknight , no u missunderstood me ;c
[10:30] <hackle577> bimberi: darn! that's what I must have been thinking, the alt. CD. Does it give you an upgrade option if you boot to it?
[10:30] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, nvidia installer usually completely removes old drivers
[10:30] <marshall> how do you apply a patch file? (.diff file) im trying to get the mac menubar hack working
[10:30] <Glos_WiFi> im at the box and have the laptop on my lap, so yes :P
[10:30] <E42> xtknight , wait a sec plz
[10:30] <Rictoo> cubicism says this:
[10:30] <xtknight> E42, sorry but ok
[10:30] <Linuxnewbie756> so has anyone used the update thing? does it work?
[10:30] <Glos_WiFi> they dont exist apparently
[10:30] <ferronica> jrib: ok thanx , i got 256 Kbps spedd how much time it will take to download
[10:30] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, what doesnt exist ?
[10:30] <name> stupid upgrades
[10:30] <hackle577> Linuxnewbie756: servers are pretty clogged ATM
[10:30] <Glos_WiFi> the commands
[10:30] <Linuxnewbie756> ferronica: right now the servers are sorta slow
[10:30] <name> Command failed: Can't get device information.
[10:30] <EmxBA> hackle577: try ubuntu.com.ba
[10:30] <name> fine!
[10:30] <Linuxnewbie756> hackle577: everyone should be using bt
[10:30] <bimberi> hackle577: not from boot but if you insert it while booted into Edgy.
[10:30] <jrib> marshall: you need to apply it to the source code and then recompile most likely.  Usually, patch -p1 < file.diff  but see 'man patch'
[10:30] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, hmm?   you didnt do nvidia installer?
[10:30] <Linuxnewbie756> and then seed
[10:30] <stevehc> how to change the screen res > 1024x768?
[10:30] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, well that's not  the exact cmd, you need the binary off nvidia.com
[10:31] <jhaig> I'm trying to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 using "Software Updates" but I don't get the "Upgrade" button.  Is there a step I need to do first?  I do have the latest version of update-manager.
[10:31] <E42> xtknight , llok now i burned a cd right now ! and no i insert it . Terminal > sudo mount /dev/hdd /mnt/new
[10:31] <hackle577> EmxBA: ok thanks
[10:31] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, and it's something *like* sudo sh ./NVIDIA-installer.run
[10:31] <Glos_WiFi> yeh, installed 1.0-9755
[10:31] <hackle577> bimberi: thanks
[10:31] <ferronica> Linuxnewbie756: okay
[10:31] <E42> xtknight , then answet is mount: No medium found
[10:31] <Glos_WiFi> hmm ok il varient the install command
[10:31] <StOORm> hi all
[10:31] <bimberi> !fixres > stevehc
[10:31] <name> damn feisty, gonna downgrade again
[10:31] <xtknight> E42, right..so the CD is not getting burned properly.
[10:31] <junmin> how can i install feisty from hard-disk??
[10:31] <Linuxnewbie756> jhaig: try sudo apt-get distro-upgrade
[10:31] <Puppy_> Generally, how long does it take to upgrade using the update manager?
[10:31] <xtknight> E42, the cd has no contents after you try to burn it
[10:31] <bimberi> hackle577: yw :)
[10:31] <StOORm> how can launch kde in a terminal ?
[10:31] <kinetic> can someone point me to a guide for pxe booting the live cd?
[10:31] <EmxBA> ubuntu.com doesn't contain ubuntu.com.ba in list of mirros; why's that? it was there.
[10:31] <EmxBA> and it WORKS
[10:31] <xtknight> Konsole
[10:31] <StOORm> yes
[10:31] <name> /dev/mapper $ sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/hdb1 /dev/mapper/media         0:04
[10:31] <name> Command failed: Can't get device information.
[10:31] <xtknight> for a kde terminal if that's your question
[10:31] <kinetic> this drive is unbearably slow
[10:31] <jhaig> Linuxnewbie756: Erm, I could try that, but I would rather use the 'official' route.
[10:32] <E42> xtknight , no because when i look on the back of the cd its seems to be burned . u know the stripes etc
[10:32] <xtknight> E42, ahh yeah
[10:32] <StOORm> i have a ubuntu server
[10:32] <StOORm> i installed kde
[10:32] <xtknight> E42, well that could mean it is finalized perhaps but obviously it didnt burn properly
[10:32] <pkl_> kusit911: you've given the same 'df' lines for '/' and /mnt/mdk which is weird, unless you're in a chroot.
[10:32] <StOORm> i want to lanch kde
[10:32] <Glos_WiFi> xtknight: i used command sudo sh ./NVIDID-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run to install it
[10:32] <xtknight> E42, so it is a burning problem not a mounting problem.  probably a CD burner or media issue
[10:32] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, right
[10:32] <EmxBA> who can I talk to related to ubuntu.com page?
[10:32] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, and that does not remedy Xorg/kernel mismatch?
[10:32] <xtknight> EmxBA, more specific?
[10:32] <pkl_> kusit911:/dev/hda1  489992    305069    159623  66% / & 489992    305069    159623  66% /mnt/mdk
[10:32] <Glos_WiFi> it does for this instance
[10:32] <E42> xtknight , well maybe . But when i insert it to my dvd-rom ( not a burner) then it dont starts too
[10:32] <EmxBA> ubuntu.com doesn't contain ubuntu.com.ba in list of mirros, xtknight
[10:32] <Glos_WiFi> and then on reboot i have to do it again
[10:33] <E42> xtknight , nothing !
[10:33] <xtknight> EmxBA, ah hmm i'm not sure who to talk to
[10:33] <name> noone knowing the answer, as I thought ^^
[10:33] <cdrom600> hello?
[10:33] <jhaig> Linuxnewbie756: Anyway, that didn't do anything (0 upgrades)
[10:33] <EmxBA> ompaul maybe?
[10:33] <StOORm> ubuntu-fr
[10:33] <nn-laptop> is there a program that will ls an http:// sight
[10:33] <Geoffrey2> I downloaded the torrent file, I get an error that I can't connect to the tracker....this is a problem?
[10:33] <pkl_> kusit911: which indicates / has only 150 Mbytes spare, and it is only 500 odd Mkbytes in size anyway.  Before you can create a new image you need to fix that.
[10:33] <xtknight> nn-laptop, you can't reliably 'ls' an http site
[10:33] <xtknight> most dont allow directory listing
[10:34] <buhrmi> Hi there... where can i get a nice aqua-style dock for Gnome?
[10:34] <ompaul> EmxBA, send a mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I would imagine
[10:34] <Glos_WiFi> where is the NVIDIA Kernel modul located? i think a value change might be in order
[10:34] <xtknight> seriously try the torrent.  450kb/esc
[10:34] <Geoffrey2> urlopen error (111, 'Connection refused')
[10:34] <jrib> EmxBA: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror says what ompaul just said
[10:34] <ompaul> jrib, I have not looked there in ages my brain still works :)
[10:34] <ajd17> i'm having a problem with vino -- when i connect with a vnc client, it gets the initial screenshot but won't send any successive ones. any ideas?
[10:34] <EADG>  buhrmi www.gnome-look.org is a good place to start.
[10:35] <nn-laptop> well it is a lot better than having to use wget -m all the time ;;;;; There must be a program that can just print the stuff wget -r can retrieve
[10:35] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi,  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[10:35] <Orfeous> any alternates to wine? i want to start a windowsprogram
[10:35] <Puppy_> What's the status of upgrading using the update manager? Slow?
[10:35] <xtknight> !vmware | Orfeous
[10:35] <ubotu> Orfeous: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:35] <EmxBA> ompaul: do I need to make such job, and wait until someone doesn't put it back? it was there when feisty got officialy released
[10:35] <E42> xtknight , omg i just started my laptop ( windows xp on it ) and the cd is blank !! NOTHING !!  Does disabling all controllers except the one i want to install kubuntu on, then installing ubuntu, then enabling them again makes any sense? because that's what I'm doing!
[10:35] <xtknight> E42, again, it's a burning problem
[10:35] <Orfeous> xtknight, not vmware!!!
[10:35] <Orfeous> allready tried that
[10:35] <xtknight> E42, i dont see how more obvious it could get???
[10:35] <kusit911> pkl_: i tried the same command from root and i got this message:<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 54.0065 seconds, 19.9 MB/s
[10:36] <zer> I have a problem that nobody had an answer to until now...how can i make sure that one module is loaded *before* an other module on system start?
[10:36] <xtknight> Orfeous, what are you looking for specifically?
[10:36] <E42> xtknight , oh sorry . But maybe can u tell how to fix this ?
[10:36] <E42> xtknight , so the burner seems to be <kaput>
[10:36] <xtknight> E42, well, it is a problem with your cd burner.  i am guessing you need to get a new cd burner, or try different media, a different burning program or even a different drive controller.
[10:36] <ompaul> EmxBA, ahh then it might have a had a bad copy or some such this happened with some places and dapper took a couple of days to "calm down" but it is more under  control today
[10:36] <psusi> ytsestef: can you be more specific about "it doesn't work?"
[10:36] <name> WTF
[10:36] <pkl_> kusit911: good, we can continue :) Type 'sudo losetup /dev/loop1 new-fs.img '
[10:36] <E42> xtknight , ok thanks
[10:37] <Glos_WiFi> xtknight: that link brings up a new file
[10:37] <psusi> ytsestef: what command did you use to reinstall grub?
[10:37] <ytsestef> psusi, yes: i get to the GRUB prompt (GRUB>)
[10:37] <name> all my ide drives are gone
[10:37] <Glos_WiFi> infact a new directory
[10:37] <cotton> Is ubuntu the best OS for running a server, or is it CentOS, or Fedora C5
[10:37] <phil8080> Can anyone help me with my sound on my Acer laptop, sound driver seems to be ok but no sound from the speakers!
[10:37] <EmxBA> ompaul: it *WORKS*, i'm using it currently
[10:37] <cubicism> cotton: centos
[10:37] <bgrupe> cotton: there is no such thing as best
[10:37] <EmxBA> all of the files are up-to-date
[10:37] <eobanb> cotton, it depends on your needs
[10:37] <cotton> ah
[10:37] <jhaig> cotton: As bgrupe said, but I would recommend *not* Fedora.
[10:38] <cotton> Why?
[10:38] <kusit911> pkl_: done
[10:38] <ompaul> EmxBA, do an md5sum on it and mail mirrors as per suggestoin
[10:38] <cotton> I just got a server with fedora
[10:38] <cotton> :(
[10:38] <jhaig> cotton: Because it is a development distribution, basically.
[10:38] <EmxBA> ok
[10:38] <guerby> hi, I removed by mistake the new gnome control center item in the menu editor, how do I add it back?
[10:38] <eobanb> cotton, if fedora works for you, then stick with it
[10:38] <cotton> ok, thanks
[10:39] <eobanb> if you find yourself having troubles, consider ubuntu
[10:39] <eobanb> that is all
[10:39] <sunset-blvd> hello, will someone please dedicate a few minutes to help me?
[10:39] <jhaig> cotton: ... just I wouldn't recommend it.  :-)
[10:39] <pkl_> kusit911: there's no point in doing this, unless I explain what's going on.  You've created an empty 1 GB file.  The losetup has associated that 1 GB file with a block device (/dev/loop1)
[10:39] <name> where have all my devices gone?
[10:39] <sajaen> solo amistad
[10:39] <mg___> hey guys i'm experiencing a very strange problem: ubuntu installation doesn't recodnize my standard ps/2 keyboard while my usb mouse works perfectly well
[10:39] <mg___> but the keyboard isn't broken or anything it worked well just 2minutes ago (under windows not under ubuntu)
[10:39] <cotton> 1 more thing, why is the updater tool taking forever to download?
[10:39] <cmspaz> The xserver on the 7.04 LiveCD won't start, throw fatal error "No screens found."
[10:39] <Glos_WiFi> sunset, whats the problem?
[10:39] <Nergar> where can i see the list of supported wifi card?
[10:39] <djm62> phil8080: I have an acer, and I'll try to help.  have you checked for things being muted by default?
[10:39] <crackintosh> holy cow this channel is crowded
[10:39] <Nergar> cards???
[10:39] <Glos_WiFi> nerger, i doint think theres a public one yet :S
[10:39] <kusit911> pkl_: i was guessing that too :) now what do we do?
[10:39] <illu45> hello
[10:39] <jhaig> cotton: Possibly because the entire world is also trying to download it as well?  :-)
[10:39] <Puppy_> Has anyone here upgraded using the update manager?
[10:39] <sunset-blvd> glos_wifi, neither the text partitioner nor gparted recognize my partitions on one drive
[10:40] <Nergar> Glos_WiFi, there is but lost it
[10:40] <stevehc>  I need to run a setup program aticonfig.  Yet I think I do not have this installed I am using the new 7.04, where to get it?
[10:40] <fizzmahon> do you guys think i should get amd64 feisty or just i386 for my athlon 64 2800+?
[10:40] <pkl_> kusit911: using this block device, you can now create a new filesystem on it.  Type 'sudo mke2fs -N 250000 /dev/loop1'
[10:40] <sunset-blvd> and they're working in windows
[10:40] <Nergar> !wifi
[10:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:40] <tokyo25> im going to do a fresh install of ubuntu7.04 instead of upgrading : )
[10:40] <phil8080> djm62, yes I have the device is HDA Nvidia
[10:40] <Glos_WiFi> sunset, whats your current setup?
[10:40] <kmaynard> garrr...i was updating my feisty install, and when it got to the network manager upgrade, i lost ssh. cant get into my box now
[10:40] <EmxBA> ompaul: message sent
[10:40] <sunset-blvd> i don't understand the question (english not native, sorry)
[10:40] <psusi> ytsestef: what command did you use to reinstall grub?
[10:40] <cotton> Is 7.04 very different than 7.03
[10:40] <sunset-blvd> what setup?
[10:40] <EmxBA> 7.03?
[10:40] <Glos_WiFi> sunset, have you got any other linux distro live discs?
[10:40] <kusit911> pkl_: done. whatdid that do?
[10:41] <jrib> cotton: yes because 7.03 does not exist
[10:41] <djm62> phil8080: have you had any noises out of it at all from ubuntu?
[10:41] <tokyo25> ther was no 7.03
[10:41] <sunset-blvd> no
[10:41] <psusi> cotton: there is no such thing as 7.03
[10:41] <crackintosh> does anyone know of a mirror that actually works right now? I am trying to apt-get something and i cant get it.
[10:41] <sunset-blvd> just 6.10
[10:41] <ytsestef> psusi, I didn' reinstall grub, I reinstalled ubuntu
[10:41] <cotton> :P, the last distro of ubuntu
[10:41] <sunset-blvd> i mean, i have 6.10 and 7.04
[10:41] <Glos_WiFi> and it doesnt pick it up when you install it vis the setup?
[10:41] <phil8080> djm62, no, i'm running 7.04 by the way
[10:41] <psusi> ytsestef: ohh, then it probably undid your changes to devices.map and menu.lst
[10:41] <Reliant> cotton, in Ubuntu, the version number is based on the year & month (7.04 = April, 2007)
[10:41] <cotton> ah
[10:41] <sunset-blvd> it only sees the partitions on hda, it shows hdb as unallocated
[10:41] <psusi> ytsestef: after you make those changes you need to just reinstall grub
[10:41] <Glos_WiFi> use this mirror http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/
[10:41] <cedricshock> crackintosh: Nope. I've tried archive.ubuntu.com (default) and portland state
[10:41] <tokyo25> first numbr means the year and the other is the month.. think
[10:41] <sunset-blvd> and i have 6 partitions on hdb
[10:41] <cmspaz> The xserver on the 7.04 LiveCD won't start, throwing fatal error "No screens found."
[10:41] <pkl_> kusit911: that created an ext2 filesystem inside the 1 GB file, with space for 25000 files (rather than the default 131072 files).
[10:42] <Glos_WiFi> tahts good sunset, you have to create the file structure on that
[10:42] <crackintosh> I probably should have done this yesterday/
[10:42] <ytsestef> psusi, I edited the devices.map and menu.lst after I installed ubuntu
[10:42] <sunset-blvd> can you teach me?
[10:42] <cedricshock> crackintosh: Here's a list: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[10:42] <psusi> ytsestef: then you now need to reinstall grub for those changes to take effect
[10:42] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, sorry i was busy fighting with some of my hardware here
[10:42] <djm62> phil8080: is there a volume control applet in the top right of your screen (picture of a speaker)?
[10:42] <cotton> Is 6.10 that different that 7.04?
[10:42] <LooseChanj> "bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" any spoilers on this?
[10:42] <phil8080> djm62, yes
 xtknight: that link brings up a new file
[10:42] <Flannel> cotton: yeah, lots of new goodness in 7.04
[10:42] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, what does that mean?
[10:42] <pkl_> kusit911: you could mount the /dev/loop1, but it is easier for you to mount it in the same way you mount the mandrake image'.
[10:42] <tokyo25> i wont no until another hour : )
[10:42] <ytsestef> psusi, i see. i didn't know that. I also don't know how to reinstall grub :S
[10:42] <matt-wadr> After 20 to 30 minutes of keyboard/mouse inactivity, my screen goes black and within a few seconds I'll have to enter a password to unlock it. KDE's screensaver isn't configured like that, xscreensaver isn't either and isn't running anyway... so what is locking my screen?
[10:43] <pkl_> kusit911: so type 'losetup -d /dev/loop1'
[10:43] <tokyo25> hope my wifi will still work!
[10:43] <EmxBA> inactivity, matt-wadr
[10:43] <ensan> feisty release already?
[10:43] <LooseChanj> that are related to 7.04?
[10:43] <EmxBA> try to configure screensaver in gnome menus
[10:43] <P-K> to go from 6.10 to 7.04 I need to replace edgy with feisty in my sources list?
[10:43] <Glos_WiFi> sunset-blvd: can you read the pm i just started with you?
[10:43] <psusi> ytsestef: iirc, you need to do sudo grub, then at the prompt enter install (hd0)
[10:43] <sunset-blvd> glos_wifi: yes, i can, i replied
[10:43] <kusit911> pkl_: done (with sudo)
[10:43] <pkl_> kusit911: yeah, I forgot that.
[10:43] <Slash> P-K: exactly
[10:43] <ensan> feisty release already?
[10:44] <Glos_WiFi> in that case wait a second, i need to set unregistered PM's to allowed
[10:44] <EmxBA> P-K: use "gksu update-manager -c -d"
[10:44] <pkl_> kusit911: type 'sudo mkdir /mnt/new'
[10:44] <sunset-blvd> i will, thank you
[10:44] <Glos_WiFi> try again now
[10:44] <P-K> Ok thanks.
[10:44] <qos_> i am searching the command "ip" but i cant find it ... i which packet will i find it?
[10:44] <djm62> phil8080: I'll presume it's set to a reasonable volume.  let me have a dig around.  Can you go through the menu  "System->Preferences->Sound" and try the test buttons
[10:44] <Flannel> EmxBA, P-K, You shouldn't need to use any flags to go from 6.10, just start update manager.
[10:44] <ytsestef> psusi: thanks, i'll try it
[10:44] <Glos_WiFi> xtknight il talk in a sec, gna help here
[10:44] <pkl_> kusit911: type 'sudo mount -t ext2 new-fs.img /mnt/new -o loop'
[10:45] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, no problem
[10:45] <kusit911> pkl_: done. how do i save the image later if i need to reboot?
[10:45] <qos_> i am searching the command "ip" but i cant find it ... i which packet will i find it?
[10:45] <Nergar> who can help me identify my wireless card please!!
[10:45] <bish0p> my upgrde from edgy to feisty has failed in a horrible way: http://pastie.caboo.se/55117   # any ideas?
[10:45] <cubicism> qos_: dude thats a windows command
[10:45] <EmxBA> Flannel: I already have it.
[10:45] <phil8080> djm62, yep, and test gives no sound
[10:45] <tokyo25> are all those fancy effects like beryl in this new version of ubuntu, or will have to install them later?
[10:45] <cubicism> qos_: just type ifconfig
[10:45] <Flannel> EmxBA: right, but when you tell others, no need for flags.
[10:45] <orange1> #ubuntu-release-party
[10:46] <julio_> When running uTorrent under the latest Wine the window's borders do not work (I cannot close or move the window). I checked the Wine AppDB but no help.
[10:46] <Shafto> tokyo25, Well compiz comes preinstalled, but id still recommend beryl over compiz
[10:46] <kane77> is there any command which will change filenames to lowercase?
[10:46] <qos_> cubicism, dude ... so explain me why i use this in UBUNTU LINUX?
[10:46] <tokyo25> ok
[10:46] <Shafto> julio_, #winehq
[10:46] <ytsestef> psusi: in order to do that, don't i have to be logged in the installed ubuntu? I'm using the livecd right now...
[10:46] <jrib> julio_: why not use a native client?
[10:46] <cubicism> qos_: dude u dont
[10:46] <Orfeous> xtknight, just like wine
[10:46] <pkl_> kusit911: the file should remain in the filesystem.  You'll mount it like I just wrote (i.e. the same way you mount the mandrake image).
[10:46] <xtknight> Orfeous, what is wrong with wine?
[10:46] <cedricshock> crackintosh: mirror.anl.gov is swamped too
[10:46] <name> oh man, so bad
[10:46] <qos_> cubicism, i do ... and others too
[10:46] <Orfeous> xtknight, searching for a program to run my driver license program with :D
[10:46] <stefg> tokyo25: not *all* of the zillion fancy switches in beryl, but compiz, which incorporates the interesting bits
[10:47] <psusi> ytsestef: if you are running from the livecd, mount the hard disks and chroot into them, then install
[10:47] <name> all my /dev/hd? are gone after updating
[10:47] <name> wtf is that?
[10:47] <Orfeous> xtknight, doesnt work good with macromedia stuff...
[10:47] <kusit911> pkl_:  cool. is everything from the old mdk image inside new-fs.img?
[10:47] <xtknight> Orfeous, driver license?  er can you clarify that?
[10:47] <pkl_> kusit911: every time you reboot the machine, you'll have to remount it.
[10:47] <cubicism> qos_: haha ur an idiot
[10:47] <xtknight> oh
[10:47] <dystopianray> name: they have become /dev/sd* or /dev/sr*
[10:47] <name> I once updated from woody to testing and it worked well
[10:47] <xtknight> drivers license...i was thinking drivers like modules :\
[10:47] <xtknight> lol
[10:47] <Orfeous> xtknight, driver license for motorbike..
[10:47] <name> dystopianray: wtfh?
[10:47] <psusi> ytsestef: for instance, mount the / filesystem to /mnt, then mount the boot filesystem to /mnt/boot, then do chroot /mnt, then install grub
[10:47] <LooseChanj> "bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" any spoilers on this related to 7.04?
[10:47] <tokyo25> yes, i found beryl very hard to work because there was so much stuff to fiddle with
[10:47] <name> dystopianray: why do they need to change that
[10:47] <djm62> phil8080: if you click on the box to the left of the test button you should have a choice of devices; I don't have the same hardware as you, so I can't tell what will be there, but can you try those options and test?
[10:47] <kusit911> pkl_: i cd'd into /mnt/new... it's empty
[10:47] <ytsestef> psusi, ok thanks!
[10:47] <vi0> how does the "copy" command work in the terminal example on dos: copy bcm43xx.inf ~/Desktop
[10:47] <name> dystopianray: it's hd? everywhere
[10:47] <enry> woooww
[10:47] <julio_> jrib: I tried a lot of the native clients but I haven't found anything like Utorrent (Deluge is getting there).
[10:47] <xtknight> Orfeous, so this has macromedia stuff in it?
[10:47] <Nergar> please, who can help me identify my wirless card!!!
[10:47] <pkl_> kusut911: no, the image is currently empty.  You'll have to copy the contents over.... Type 'sudo cp -dpR /mnt/mdk /mnt/new'
[10:47] <dystopianray> name: you are using libata now
[10:47] <Orfeous> xtknight, the "card" that makes it legal for you to drive in the traffic
[10:47] <jrib> vi0: it's "cp"
[10:47] <vi0> thanks
[10:47] <jrib> !cli > vi0    (vi0, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:48] <emir> hi every body
[10:48] <Orfeous> xtknight, yes, it is built on macromedia
[10:48] <xtknight> Orfeous, lol i know that
[10:48] <cmspaz> The xserver on the 7.04 LiveCD won't start, throw fatal error "No screens found."
[10:48] <stefg> vi0: man cp
[10:48] <xtknight> Orfeous, brain fart :)
[10:48] <name> dystopianray: ok, so why can't they keep the naming convention
[10:48] <sharperguy> !welcome | emir
[10:48] <ubotu> emir: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[10:48] <xtknight> Orfeous, sounds like you just need to configure wine better or use a better paid derivative of it.  i love vmware, personally
[10:48] <qos_> somebody here, with more compentence than cubicism? want to know why there is the command "ip" missing.
[10:48] <EmxBA> cmspaz: what's your card?
[10:48] <kane77> cmspaz, did you change xserver settings?
[10:48] <cmspaz> X1300
[10:48] <hrik001> hello, i tried installing a HP Deskjet c and it appears in gnome-cups-manager, but it doent work, any idea what could be wrong ?
[10:48] <foug> is Feisty worth the download?
[10:48] <xtknight> qos_, what is 'ip'?
[10:48] <psusi> ytsestef: and actually I think you can just do sudo update-grub to reinstall it
[10:48] <Louey> is it possible to install 7.04 over top 6.10?
[10:48] <jrib> qos_: what does that command do?
[10:48] <xtknight> foug, of course
[10:48] <pkl_> kusit911: no, the image is currently empty.  You'll have to copy the contents over.... Type 'sudo cp -dpR /mnt/mdk /mnt/new'
[10:48] <cmspaz> I haven't changed settings yet
[10:48] <xtknight>  ip - show / manipulate routing, devices, policy routing and tunnels
[10:48] <name> dystopianray: and what the hell is sg?
[10:48] <enry> woowww i was able to ndiswrap my wireless card!!!
[10:48] <jonp> hrik001: doesn't work in what way?
[10:48] <xtknight> it's here for me on Feisty
[10:48] <dystopianray> name: becuase it uses the scsi subsystem in the kernel
[10:48] <jrib> Louey: yes
[10:48] <Nergar> anyone???
[10:49] <Louey> thanks jrib
[10:49] <Orfeous> xtknight, yes, it works good in vmware but it feels quite slow :(
[10:49] <dystopianray> name: generic scsi device, you can ignore it
[10:49] <cmspaz> well, I haven't tried anything that worked, rather
[10:49] <cedricshock> Louey: Yes, see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[10:49] <enry> wey were are the icons?
[10:49] <enry> usr....
[10:49] <xtknight> Orfeous, did you install the vmware video drivrs?
[10:49] <T0uCH> thats a joke 6 to 12 hours to download upgrades?? lol
[10:49] <xtknight> huge difference
[10:49] <kusit911> pkl_:  copying one min.....
[10:49] <EmxBA> atheros cards do not need ndiswrapper?
[10:49] <xtknight> qos_, 'ip' is in package 'iproute'
[10:49] <stefg> !upgrade
[10:49] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:49] <dystopianray> name: sd* are hdds, sr* or scd* are cd/dvd drives
[10:49] <CookieNinja> I've been on feisty for a while now, and it's alright :-) had some problems but nothing too bad
[10:49] <foug> xtknight: does everything that ran in 6.10 run in 7.04? i.e, Beryl, WoW etc
[10:49] <hrik001> jonp: i do "print test page"; it says it is printing, but the printer doesnt do anything
[10:49] <cmspaz> neither the ati or radeon drivers worked.
[10:49] <Orfeous> xtknight, yes, i installed everything with vmware* :D
[10:49] <qos_> xtknight, jrib: u can manipulate routes ... its likely ifconfig ;)
[10:49] <Louey> thanks stefg
[10:49] <name> dystopianray: cool, so that libata wants to tell me that i just have two ata drives, wrong
[10:49] <matt-wadr> I guess it was the gnome power manager
[10:49] <fuoco> if i used feisty while it was development distro, and upgraded regularly, it means i now have the stable feisty or i need to reinstall?
[10:49] <Shafto> foug, Yeah
[10:49] <xtknight> qos_, sudo apt-get install iproute
[10:49] <LooseChanj> "bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" any spoilers on this related to 7.04?
[10:49] <ryanakca> any way to change from ubuntu amd64 to ubuntu x86 ?
[10:49] <xtknight> Orfeous, odd it's almost 1:1 speed for me.  wine feels slower
[10:49] <tokyo25> ive  30% downloaded this version,so far its taken 18 mins
[10:49] <jrib> !final > fuoco    (fuoco, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:49] <qos_> xtknight, how did u get this?
[10:50] <Shafto> foug, Wine and beryl definately work
[10:50] <xtknight> qos_, dpkg -S `which ip`
[10:50] <jrib> ryanakca: reinstall
[10:50] <xtknight> qos_, i had the 'ip' program it so happens.
[10:50] <dystopianray> name: your drives are under /dev/sd* or /dev/sr*
[10:50] <CookieNinja> anyone not sure about the upgrade, try it on a spare partition ... much better than asking anyone else about their experience on their hardware :-)
[10:50] <ryanakca> jrib: other than that?
[10:50] <foug> Shafto: cool, 7.04 has better sound/video support right? and is more stable/faster than 6.10
[10:50] <xtknight> qos_, if you didnt you may try apt-file *bin/ip or apt-cache search ip
[10:50] <jrib> ryanakca: not really
[10:50] <cnez0red> hi. Trying to upgrade via the alternate CD, but it keeps Fetching all 1320 files ... and when it's finished, it goes back 394 every time. Seems to be stuck in a loop.
[10:50] <dystopianray> name: sata has worked like this for years
[10:50] <ryanakca> jrib: shucks... kk, thanks
[10:50] <Shafto> foug, Umm dont know, dont run it
[10:50] <name> dystopianray: i know
[10:50] <xtknight> foug, yes
[10:50] <name> dystopianray: ah i seem to get it
[10:50] <CookieNinja> my logitech webcam worked out of the box in feisty :-)
[10:50] <xtknight> foug, you can run everything in Feisty than you did in edgy..and more
[10:50] <name> dystopianray: so it mixed my ata and sata drives
[10:50] <qos_> xtknight, i know thx anyway. i am no noob. have to find a armel version of this just to get it running on my internet tablet.
[10:50] <foug> xtknight: cool
[10:50] <name> dystopianray: veery nice
[10:50] <dystopianray> name: now pata drivers are using the same libata system as sata
[10:50] <pkl_> kusit911: OK.  Once that's done, /mnt/mdk and /mnt/new (and the two image files) should be identical, except /mnt/new is much bigger ...
[10:50] <kusit911> pkl_:  done copying
[10:50] <richdurhm> hey guys how do i upgrade with iso?
[10:51] <name> that had done a nice job confusing me
[10:51] <jrib> !upgrade > richdurhm    (richdurhm, see the private message from ubotu)
[10:51] <kusit911> ls
[10:51] <richdurhm> !upgrade
[10:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:51] <cnez0red> !upgrade
[10:51] <psycho78> richduhm: check the ubuntu site, click upgrade and it'll tell you
[10:51] <Alan> which package do i need for the GTK+ 2.0 headers?
[10:51] <Orfeous> xtknight, hmm.. just tried the program.. i got ActiveX error message
[10:51] <stefg> richdurhm: pop it in the drive and find yourself clicking yes
[10:51] <name> dystopianray: confused me totally
[10:51] <name> dystopianray: ata and sata drives mixed means no good
[10:52] <Flannel> richdurhm: Just start up update-manager, it'll tell you that theres a new version to upgrade to
[10:52] <dystopianray> name: sata is ata too
[10:52] <elfranger> good evening all
[10:52] <pkl_> kusit911: you can use /mnt/new as the new chroot.  Obviously you can unmount the old img from /mnt/mdk, and unmount the new img and remount it on /mnt/mdk
[10:52] <richdurhm> Flannel,  ya but it is takling to long
[10:52] <name> dystopianray: but it was soo easy seperating them
[10:52] <name> now they are mixed up
[10:52] <xtknight> Alan, libgtk2.0-dev
[10:52] <richdurhm> Flannel, and i alrready have iso
[10:52] <LooseChanj> "bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" with the live cd, hints?
[10:52] <xtknight> Orfeous, well you need to regsvr32 the macromedia flash OCX
[10:52] <Alan> thanks xtknight - was having trouble guessing the package name :(
[10:52] <name> and /dev/hda just isn't the first ide drive, but /dev/sdb is, that confuses me
[10:52] <dystopianray> name: fstab should be using UUIDs for everything, so it's only a problem if you want to manually play with the devices
[10:53] <kusit911> pkl_:  great... thanks a lot!! one last question, after chrooting into that image, could i run an ide like eclipse from it?
[10:53] <elfranger> I have mounted a disk as /ftproot. Under there, I have mounted two partitions from a different disk into their own folder...
[10:53] <xtknight> Alan, synaptic search "gtk2 development"
[10:53] <EADG> !upgrade | EADG
[10:53] <name> dystopianray: as you see, i want
[10:53] <fenrig> hi all
[10:53] <Airforce5555> do you get the source code witha  mac?
[10:53] <name> dystopianray: and i always could easily
[10:53] <fenrig> i have a little link for u guys
[10:53] <elfranger> funny thing is, when I log on with an ftp user, I see no files in thow two folders that are mounted partitions from another disk...
[10:53] <Airforce5555> do you get the source code with a mac?
[10:53] <Flannel> richdurhm: Ah.  Which ISO?  desktop or alternate?
[10:53] <phil8080> djm62, nothing, no sound
[10:53] <fenrig> http://www.windowsxlive.net/?p=643
[10:53] <dustpyle_x2> Hey, whenever I put the line 'export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin in my .zprofile or /etc/zsh/zprofile and logout the path remains unchanged. Why is this?
[10:53] <elfranger> where do I start to look for errors?
[10:53] <Enselic__> Is there a good tool for parsing auth.log?
[10:53] <Alan> thanks xtknight :D
[10:53] <jrib> Airforce5555: for ubuntu? yes
[10:53] <stefg> Is there any way to get the 2.6.20-14 kernel again? apt doesn't have it, maybe there's a secret trick?
[10:53] <dystopianray> name: have a look in /dev/disk/
[10:53] <fenrig> please read it its about opensource drivers and a usefull link is in there
[10:53] <Airforce5555> how bout for the mac os
[10:54] <fenrig> a link to a petition
[10:54] <Enselic__> stefg: iirc -14 is unstable
[10:54] <clop> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu feisty; it keeps locking up on "partitions formatting; creating ext3 file system for / in partition #1 of ..."
[10:54] <fenrig> please read it or sign the petition
[10:54] <orange1> .
[10:54] <Jordan_U> Airforce5555, I don't understand the question, do you want the source code for OSx? If so why are you asking here?
[10:54] <Enselic__> clop: are you sure it'snot just slow?
[10:54] <djm62> phil8080: oh bum. what is the exact model of laptop?
[10:54] <name> dystopianray: oh dear, why couldn't they just create symlinks ^^
[10:54] <stefg> Enselic__: i don't care, but it works for me, while -15 does not :-)... so much for stability
[10:54] <orange1> how do i recursively delete a directory?
[10:54] <Airforce5555> I would like to know if they give it out.
[10:54] <xtknight> orange1, rm -rf
[10:54] <jrib> orange1: rm -r
[10:54] <name> orange1: rm -r
[10:54] <phil8080> os[Linux 2.6.20-15-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[1 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36 @ 800MHz]  mem[Physical : 883MB, 77.0% free]  disk[Total : 19.74GB, 84.50% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge]  sound[]
[10:54] <dystopianray> name: they are symlinks
[10:54] <Enselic__> orange rm -r
[10:55] <fenrig> http://www.windowsxlive.net/?p=643
[10:55] <xtknight> i believe if you dont use -f it will omit empty directories
[10:55] <elfranger> when I log on to the server and goes into /ftproot, I can see all contents of those folders... but if I go into the download folder of an ftp user where I have mounted the ftproot folder, I cannot see the contents of the two folders...
[10:55] <fenrig> well bye
[10:55] <Enselic__> orange1:  rm -r
[10:55] <xtknight> making it very annoying
[10:55] <julio_> When running uTorrent under the latest Wine the window's borders do not work (I cannot close or move the window). I checked the Wine AppDB but no help. (I know I should ask in the #winehq channel but noone there is helping)
[10:55] <Airforce5555> k
[10:55] <clop> pretty sure
[10:55] <pkl_> kusit911: yes, it has eclipse in there, and you set your X windows display variable (export DISPLAY=:0.0)...
[10:55] <name> julio_: why using utorrent/
[10:55] <orange1> thanks ya 4
[10:55] <surviver> hy evry1, i have installed devil's pie (window manager) but now iam searching howto configure it ... anyone has expiernce with it or know information about it ?
[10:55] <cedricshock> xtnight: Nope, the -f changes whether or not it asks you.
[10:55] <phil8080> djm62, Aspire 9300 AMD acer
[10:55] <djm62> phil8080: I meant what model of Acer is it: for googling purposes
[10:55] <Raidon> GELUKT!!!!!!
[10:55] <Raidon> \o/
[10:55] <Raidon> thx thx thx thx thx mannen :)
[10:55] <surviver> raidon, bravo :D
[10:55] <name> dystopianray: why couldn't they keep the hd?
[10:55] <xtknight> cedricshock, ah yeah apparently it still deletes empty ones
[10:56] <dystopianray> name: becuase libata uses /dev/sd*
[10:56] <julio_> name: Can't find a Linux equivalent (Deluge is getting there)
[10:56] <name> julio_: ktoprrent
[10:56] <name> i seem to have liked it
[10:56] <phil8080> djm62, Aspire 9301AWSMi
[10:56] <mg___> please help me! everything works perfect but my keyboard (ps/2) which just isn't recodnized :-(
[10:56] <kusit911> pkl_: i can try to install eclipse but what's the display variable?
[10:56] <tokyo25> is bsd difficult to use? is it anything like ubuntu?
[10:56] <tkcvcv> looking for a single linux command that will (1) take a file, (2) strip out all the "\n" in the file, (3) put the remaining content in char *blah = "... contents of file ...";
[10:56] <Jordan> hello?
[10:56] <cedricshock> sgeo: that's a kde cd writer. What's the problem?
[10:56] <mg___> and without a keyboard i can't install ubuntu or change configurations files
[10:56] <jrib> Sgeo: have you checked bugs.ubuntu.com?  I seem to recall that package was buggy and there were instructions on how to remove it in the coments
[10:56] <Jordan> Is this the official Ubuntu channel?
[10:57] <stefg> tkcvcv: man sed
[10:57] <orange1> how can i find out which ports are open - so i can use them to connect to some game servers?
[10:57] <Sgeo> cedricshock, k3d not k3b
[10:57] <name> now great what was my encrypted partition then
[10:57] <EmxBA> should I feel any improvements with PCI wifi card? i've used PCMCIA and speed was fine on ~90 meters distance, PCI should be better because it has antenna?
[10:57] <Flannel> tkcvcv: youre looking for sed
[10:57] <mrigns> gnome-bittorrent, bittornado and azureus are only starting downloads if i start them via terminal
[10:57] <julio_> name: Does ktorrent cycle through trackers like uTorrent?
[10:57] <Enselic__> Hmm, in XChat-GNOME, how do I set to not show joins/leaves?
[10:57] <Flannel> Jordan: it is
[10:57] <mtx1> anyone know what would cause a mouse in a fresh ubuntu install to be very slow?
[10:57] <mrigns> wihout the dont donload
[10:57] <Sgeo> jrib, no. ty for the advice
[10:57] <adaptr> orange1: what do you mean by "open" ?
[10:57] <elfranger> anyone good with disks and mounts?
[10:57] <sacater> elfranger: hi
[10:57] <adaptr> orange1: usually, all of them are
[10:57] <Enselic__> elfranger: yes
[10:57] <elfranger> I have no clue to why this is happening
[10:57] <name> ah screw this i will do it tomorriw
[10:57] <orange1> adaptr: school's connection is very limited - i want to see which ports i can use to connect to games
[10:57] <fizzmahon> do you guys think i should get amd64 feisty or just i386 for my athlon 64 2800+?
[10:57] <sacater> elfranger: what ya want?
[10:58] <adaptr> elfranger: dozens if not hundreds of people, so why not just ask you question ?
[10:58] <cedricshock> sgeo: oops. What's the problem?
[10:58] <Enselic__> fizzmahon: I'd go with the AMD64 version
[10:58] <dystopianray> fizzmahon: i386
[10:58] <LooseChanj> "bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" booting the live cd, nothing on google related to 7.04, hints please?
[10:58] <pkl_> kusit911: when running X windows, all X programs need to know where the X-server is located.  This is achieved by an environment variable called DISPLAY.  Type 'echo $DISPLAY', and it will show the contents.
[10:58] <dystopianray> fizzmahon: amd64 is nothing but trouble
[10:58] <adaptr> orange1: that is not a function of your PC, but a network configuration
[10:58] <fizzmahon> whty i386 dystopianray?
[10:58] <fizzmahon> why*
[10:58] <dystopianray> fizzmahon: no flash, no java web plugin, etc..
[10:58] <rubso> guys, torrentz please
[10:58] <orange1> adaptr: the game (wc3) has the option to pick a port so...
[10:58] <superkirbyartist> When I use Beryl/Compiz in Feisty, I cannot see Window Borders.
[10:58] <Jordan_U> fizzmahon, I would stick with 32 bit unless you like messing around to get stuff to work
[10:58] <Enselic__> fizzmahon: AMD64 has slighty worse software support
[10:58] <superkirbyartist> Can someone help please?
[10:58] <usr_rob> The Ubuntu 6.06 LTS has support til 2011, is this updates only? will it be released new application versions for it?
[10:59] <surviver> anyone has some expiernce with devil's pie or know where i can find info about it ? (its a window manager)
[10:59] <adaptr> orange1: you'll need to explain better what you want to do
[10:59] <Sgeo> Is it just me, or is bugs.ubuntu.com being slow?
[10:59] <Enselic__> usr_rob: only updates afaik
[10:59] <Flannel> usr_rob: just updates, yes.  no new versions
[10:59] <jrib> surviver: what is your question?
[10:59] <stefg> !backports | usr_rob
[10:59] <kusit911> pkl_: i typed  "echo $display" after chrooting and it seems to be empty... how do i set it and what should it be?
[10:59] <ubotu> usr_rob: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[10:59] <cedricshock> rubso: You can get the torrents from the regular download sites.
[10:59] <usr_rob> Enselic__, Okey, thx
[10:59] <fizzmahon> is the 64 bit just better graphics?
[10:59] <pkl_> kusit911: normally when you start a shell, it inherits the environment from it's parent, and will therefore get the DISPLAY variable.  It is unlikely the chroot environment will get this, and so you'll need to set it.
[10:59] <NemesisD> hi guys, i got my WIFI working on my laptop last night, i started it up this morning and it wasn't working, I was wondering if anyone can help out?
[10:59] <Enselic__> fizzmahon: the graphics is the same
[10:59] <cotton> How can i tell which ubuntu distro I should download?
[10:59] <adaptr> kusit911: the variable name is DISPLAY, not display
[10:59] <dystopianray> fizzmahon: graphics? there is no different in graphics
[10:59] <surviver> jrib, i try to set my gaim messenger and messages to my workspace 2 so they dont bother me when i am reading on workspace 1
[10:59] <orange1> adaptr: since this game has the option to pick a port - how can i get a list of 'useable' ports - so i can configure the game to use it and actually connect to a server
[10:59] <Enselic__> cotton: what computer do you have?
[10:59] <dystopianray> fizzmahon: 64-bit cpus have nothing to do with graphics
[11:00] <pkl_> kusit911: it must be in upper-case DISPLAY not display, the difference is important in Linux.
[11:00] <jrib> surviver: what did you try?
[11:00] <adaptr> orange1: from what to what ? do you mean outgoing ports ? they are all open
[11:00] <mrigns> gnome-bittorrent, bittornado and azureus are only starting downloads if i start them via terminal
[11:00] <mrigns> wihout the dont donload
[11:00] <usr_rob> stefg, Thx!
[11:00] <dystopianray> fizzmahon: it's mainly just support for more than 4GB of ram
[11:00] <cotton> Enselic__: I don't know if it is a amd64 or a i386
[11:00] <darwin> Is there anyway to disable desktop effects for one window?
[11:00] <Enselic__> cotton: are you running windows on it right now?
[11:00] <mtx1> anyone know what would cause a mouse in a fresh ubuntu install to be very slow? i have been googleing for hours and have not found a solution. I have tried diffrent display drivers for my system but nothing seems to change...and by the way the mouse works fine in windows and it worked fine on my linux install with my last motherboard this is a new motherboard and now i have mouse issues it is extremely slow  any help would be appreciated
[11:00] <Ezekiel> hi
[11:00] <surviver> jrib, nothing yet i know it is installed but dont know how to start or set some stuff up ... so iam searching a bit out
[11:00] <pkl_> kusit911: normally the DISPLAY variable is set to :0.0
[11:00] <Lunar_Lamp> !thunderbird
[11:00] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[11:00] <cotton> Enselic__: No, 6.10
[11:00] <jrib> !devilspie > surviver    (surviver, see the private message from ubotu)
[11:01] <Enselic__> cotton: what does uname -a give you?
[11:01] <apo> !claws-mail
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about claws-mail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <LooseChanj> meh
[11:01] <apo> Aw :/
[11:01] <Enselic__> cotton: or wait, that could be misleading
[11:01] <pkl_> kusit911: typing 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' should work.
[11:01] <kusit911> pkl_:  yeah sorry $DISPLAY is really :0.0
[11:01] <surviver> jrib, thx :)
[11:01] <orange1> adaptr: am i wrong? its my understanding - the school blocks most ports except for a few for common usage such as web browsing / etc
[11:01] <superkirbyartist> Anyone can help me please?
[11:01] <darwin> Is there anyway to disable desktop effects for one window?
[11:01] <jrib> surviver: the links on the wiki are very good, especially http://wiki.foosel.net/linux/devilspie
[11:01] <stefg> !xgl
[11:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:01] <cotton> Enselic__: i686
[11:01] <Jordan_U> darwin, No
[11:01] <orange1> !mount fat32
[11:01] <pkl_> kusit911: sorry got to go, it's been a long day.
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount fat32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <adaptr> orange1: that's up to the school, but that usually refers to destination ports, as they cannot know which ports you originate from
[11:02] <jrib> !vfat > orange1    (orange1, see the private message from ubotu)
[11:02] <richdurhm> hey guys i am not getting a upgrade from iso screen
[11:02] <richdurhm> and i type
[11:02] <kmaynard> why would a network manager update ax my ssh connection?
[11:02] <surviver> jrib, thx ill try to find some info about it so i can configure ;)
[11:02] <adaptr> orange1: tyhe only way to find that out is to try it
[11:02] <richdurhm> gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[11:02] <dr34mc0d3r> is security.ubuntu.com responding very slow to anyone else?????
[11:02] <StOORm> hi how can i launch in console ?
[11:02] <richdurhm> and it says it cannot find it
[11:02] <davisc> dr34mc0d3r: Yes
[11:02] <Enselic__> cotton: does sudo lshw | grep -i x86_64 give return something for you?
[11:02] <StOORm> hi how can i launch kdein console ?
[11:02] <adaptr> dr34mc0d3r: to everybody, yes
[11:02] <StOORm> hi how can i launch kde in console ?
[11:02] <fizzmahon> dr34mc0d3r: everything ubuntu is responding slow today!
[11:02] <Jordan_U> richdurhm, Do you have the Alternate install CD
[11:02] <dr34mc0d3r> ok
[11:02] <Jordan_U> ?
[11:02] <cedricshock> richdurhm: It's only on the alternate install cd, I think
[11:02] <kusit911> pkl_: thanks a lot... you've been extremely helpful....
[11:02] <aboutblank> can i upgrade my 6.10 installation with my burnt desktop i386 iso?
[11:02] <richdurhm> Jordan_U,  yes
[11:02] <superkirbyartist> What happened to Control Centre in 7.04?
[11:02] <tsmithe> was unusable
[11:02] <orange1> thanks jrib
[11:02] <LooseChanj> is this thing on?
[11:02] <noelferreira> what is the channel for the ubuntu 7.04? this one?
[11:02] <Glos_WiFi> ok xtknight im back
[11:02] <dr34mc0d3r> 7.04 release making everything slow today??
[11:03] <darwin> Jordan_U: Is there any reason why a Window's border wouldn't work with desktop effects?
[11:03] <jrib> noelferreira: yep, this one
[11:03] <richdurhm> cedricshock, oh ok maybe i have regular iso
[11:03] <Enselic__> dr34mc0d3r: yeah
[11:03] <tsmithe> superkirbyartist, it was slow to load, slow to use :)
[11:03] <Enselic__> noelferreira: yeah
[11:03] <cotton> Enselic__: It did this weird thing, but it didn't give me a result
[11:03] <fizzmahon> dr34mc0d3r: yes, ubuntu site is getting too much traffic
[11:03] <Jordan_U> darwin, Only one window?
[11:03] <casso> hello all
[11:03] <cedricshock> noelferreira: This seams to be the one ;)
[11:03] <elfranger> anyone up for some mount/link partition disk stuff?
[11:03] <elfranger> I am lost...
[11:03] <CookieNinja> all the app installs i am doing today are terribly slow ....
[11:03] <superkirbyartist> tsmithe: Can you still enable it?
[11:03] <CookieNinja> probs because of the release
[11:03] <tsmithe> superkirbyartist, hmm probably
[11:03] <tsmithe> hang on
[11:03] <foomanchew> elfranger, what is the issue
[11:03] <cedricshock> elfranger: just ask
[11:03] <superkirbyartist> Tsmithe, I think it looks cleaner.  How can you turn it on?
[11:04] <Glos_WiFi> for a faster mirror, use http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/
[11:04] <LooseChanj> hello?
[11:04] <tsmithe> superkirbyartist, just finding out :)
[11:04] <noelferreira> i have this graphic card VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200]  (rev a3) should i use restricted drivers from ubuntu or make an install like usual?
[11:04] <darwin> Jordan_U: Well it's Windows app running under Wine
[11:04] <Alan> superkirbyartist, right click on the menu and edit it
[11:04] <StOORm> i installed ubuntu server, and kde packages , how can i launch kde ?
[11:04] <whonicca> is there any disadvantages if i upgrade with the alternate cd/dvd ?
[11:04] <Alan> check the box next to it in system->preferences i think
[11:04] <elfranger> I have mounted a partition into /ftproot and there are some folders with data in them there. Then I have mounted two new partitions from a different disk into /ftproot/folder1 and /ftproot/folder2
[11:04] <tsmithe> superkirbyartist, if you just run gnome-control-center you will open it
[11:04] <Enselic__> cotton: what does sudo lshw -C CPU | grep product give?
[11:04] <tsmithe> i'll work out how to get it default, if you can
[11:05] <elfranger> when logged in as root, I can see all files in both those two folders...
[11:05] <djm62> phil8080: I'm scraping the barrel here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412715
[11:05] <cotton> Enselic__:
[11:05] <elfranger> then I link the /ftproot folder into each ftp user's home/user/download folder...
[11:05] <cotton> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
[11:05] <djm62> phil8080: have you tried the headphone slot?
[11:05] <tsmithe> superkirbyartist, sorry. dunno how to get it as default
[11:05] <Enselic__> cotton: if that's all, then you should download i386
[11:05] <elfranger> so I change to /home/user1/download and I can see all the folders, and all the files in all folders except the folder1 and folder2
[11:05] <Glos_WiFi> !wifi
[11:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:05] <AnObfuscator> 7.04 Alt CD is failing to install on "Select and Install Packages", on "Configuring ttf-arphic-ukai". Is there any way to force it to continue configuring other packages? it's some chinese font I don't really care about.
[11:05] <ferret_0567> How do I select a dependency resolving action in aptitude?
[11:06] <Enselic__> cotton: or x86 I mean
[11:06] <Angeluz> Is there a kdetv-like analog-tv program with gtk?
[11:06] <Enselic__> cotton: not AMD64
[11:06] <ferret_0567> I've tried the right arrow, I'm in the bottom pane already
[11:06] <noelferreira> i have this graphic card VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200]  (rev a3) should i use restricted drivers from ubuntu or make an install like usual?
[11:06] <ch00sen> hi, i have a questing
[11:06] <ferret_0567> How do I select, "Keep amarok-xine at version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty, now)"?
[11:06] <Flannel> AnObfuscator: Did you verify the CD?
[11:06] <ferret_0567> That
[11:06] <darwin> Jordan_U: Well it's Windows app running under Wine
[11:06] <cotton> Enselic__: So, x86?
[11:06] <ferret_0567> That's my question
[11:06] <ch00sen> i allready installl ntfs-3g, and mount a partition
[11:06] <elfranger> if I log on with ftp client, the user can see files in all folders except the folder1 and folder2
[11:06] <cedricshock> elfranger: you changed there as root, right?
[11:06] <Enselic__> cotton: if your processor would be 64 bit, it would have a name lik Athlon 64
[11:06] <Enselic__> cotton: yes
[11:06] <ch00sen> but the uid and guid off my home is root
[11:06] <Enselic__> cotton: Desktop
[11:06] <elfranger> cedric: yes
[11:06] <ferret_0567> Did Feisty already get a ISO up?
[11:06] <ch00sen> and i cannot change the uid and guid with chown
[11:07] <AnObfuscator> Flannel: yes, in Nero, but not using the ubuntu CD self-checker.
[11:07] <Enselic__> cotton: unless you want a server with no graphical interface of course ;)
[11:07] <jrib> ferret_0567: yes
[11:07] <ch00sen> any can help?
[11:07] <Glos_WiFi> ferret_0567 yes#
[11:07] <Flannel> AnObfuscator: right.  Use the self check.  How fast did you burn?  4x is recommended
[11:07] <GekiBlue> Wow. My My upgrade to Feisty just timed out XD
[11:07] <Glos_WiFi> ch00sen whats the problem?
[11:07] <cotton> Enselic__: :P, witch download would that be? http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/
[11:07] <ch00sen> Glos_WiFi: my home directory
[11:07] <ch00sen> is root:root
[11:07] <Sgeo> jrib, ty
[11:07] <ferret_0567> I'm in the bottom pane in aptitude, and I'm in the dependency resolver. How do I select...
[11:07] <ch00sen> and i cannot change, with chown,
[11:08] <AnObfuscator> Flannel: ok, checking now. I don't recall, probably fastest because I'm impatient. :-)
[11:08] <ferret_0567> "Keep amarok-xine at version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty, now)"?
[11:08] <ch00sen> i want to change to user:user with chown -R user:user /home/user
[11:08] <jrib> ch00sen: what home directory?
[11:08] <Occultis> Trying to upgrade a server, but it fails even before the first hurdle. Upgrade instructions say "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core", but update-manager-core doesnt exit. Any offers?
[11:08] <noelferreira> shoul i use xgl or aiglx in feisty for beryl?
[11:08] <ch00sen> my home directory...
[11:08] <Enselic__> cotton: http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[11:08] <Flannel> AnObfuscator: right.  Fast burns introduce errors, and freezing on a package is a common result (because the package is corrupt), you might need to reburn at 4x
[11:08] <jrib> ch00sen: /home/username, not /home?
[11:08] <ferret_0567> AIGLX in Feisty for Beryl on NVIDIA
[11:08] <Glos_WiFi> have you tried using sudo infront of command?
[11:08] <Enselic__> cotton: or if you have a torrent client, you probably want to go with http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:08] <ch00sen> /home/username yes
[11:08] <ferret_0567> Are you using ATI?
[11:08] <AnObfuscator> Flannel: ok, I'll reburn, thanks
[11:08] <Glos_WiFi> if you want to change permissions
[11:08] <Enselic__> cotton: it will likely be faster
[11:08] <jrib> ch00sen: how did it end up like that?
[11:08] <cotton> thanks alot Enselic__ !!!!!!!!
[11:08] <Enselic__> cotton: faster to download, not to run :)
[11:09] <ch00sen> allready i mount with mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda3 /home
[11:09] <cotton> :D
[11:09] <Kragnerac> Hello, I have a problem with Ubuntu on my ATi card.
[11:09] <askar> Hi!   You can view the channel's topic at any time by typing:    /topic
[11:10] <Flannel> minerale: Why command line?
[11:10] <ompaul> ferret_0567, not any more it is here
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> ferret_0567: #ubuntu+1 is non-existent atm
[11:10] <cedricshock> elfranger: I'm alive and well. Get my last two lines in the private?
[11:10] <Enselic__> ferret_0567: Edit -> Current profile -> Effects -> Background image
[11:10] <elfranger> cedricshock: no...
[11:10] <Nergar> NEED HELP, how do i reverse this command??? lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[11:10] <Nergar> lol
[11:10] <Nergar> not that one
[11:10] <jrib> Nergar: that command doesn't do anything
[11:10] <Occultis> Trying to upgrade a server, but it fails even before the first hurdle. Upgrade instructions say "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core", but update-manager-core doesnt exit. Any offers?
[11:10] <ferret_0567> I want to make a framebuffer console in Feisty
[11:10] <Nergar> jrib, echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:10] <ferret_0567> I'm using NVIDIA, with their module
[11:11] <Enselic__> ferret_0567: framebuffer as in terminal background?
[11:11] <jrib> Nergar: edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   and delete the line that says "blacklist bcm43xx"
[11:11] <ferret_0567> Yeah, framebuffer console
[11:11] <minerale> flannel: I'll be at work for a few hours and I can only ssh into my home linux box... and I'd like to have it upgraded
[11:11] <askar> Hi! Im not very good at english and was wondering if someone here could help me write a request/idea for gutsy in the forum?
[11:11] <elfranger> cedricshock: nothing appears from you in private..
[11:11] <Enselic__> ferret_0567: In gnome-terminal: Edit -> Current profile -> Effects -> Background image
[11:11] <ferret_0567> I want a framebuffer console
[11:11] <ferret_0567> Oh, no, not that
[11:11] <cedricshock> elfragner: Funny. I sent 3 lines back.
[11:11] <superkirbyartist> Any menu entry I add under "System", does not appear!  Can someone help, please?
[11:11] <Nergar> thanx jrib
[11:11] <superkirbyartist> !spyware
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spyware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <elfranger> really strange...
[11:12] <cedricshock> elfranger: Ok. I'd think the folders should definitely show up inside a symlink to /ftproo
[11:12] <ferret_0567> !framebuffer
[11:12] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[11:12] <cedricshock> elfranger: Obviously they don't. These are just regular mounts, right, nothing special?
[11:12] <ferret_0567> Ah
[11:12] <Enselic__> ferret_0567: there you go :d
[11:12] <elfranger> cedricshock: The folders are there... the contents is not..
[11:12] <ferret_0567> I'll see there
[11:12] <_Luks> how do i upgrade edgy to feisty having the feisty cd ?
[11:12] <jrib> _Luks: Your question is answered in the FAQ which is linked in the channel's topic.  You can view the channel's topic at any time by typing:    /topic
[11:12] <ferret_0567> First I have to finish my work
[11:12] <ferret_0567> I'll bbl
[11:13] <elfranger> cedricshock: Regular mounts, yes..
[11:13] <elfranger> see private for details...
[11:13] <psusi> Luk0r: you need the alternate install cd to upgrade, or yuo can just reinstall from the livecd
[11:13] <_Luks> jrib: thx
[11:13] <linuxgeekery-> ~/leave
[11:13] <h0ax> hello i have this error h0ax@h0ax-laptop:~/Desktop/ipod$ ./installer
[11:13] <h0ax> ./installer: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:13] <SeveredCross> Check if you have libcrypto.so.0.9.7
[11:13] <h0ax> how
[11:14] <SeveredCross> Do ls -alh /usr/lib/libcrypto*
[11:14] <xtknight> h0ax, sudo apt-get install libcrypto++5.2c2a
[11:14] <aitiba> nas
[11:14] <elfranger> cedricshock: remember to write to me here as the private window does not seem to want to listen to you...
[11:14] <assasukasse> i have a question about ssh -X, if i run an application this way, will it close if i disconnect the ssh session?
[11:14] <SeveredCross> xtknight: He might have it and just need a symlink.
[11:14] <h0ax> hold on
[11:14] <xtknight> ah nm
[11:14] <cedricshock> elfranger: Must be something with bind. I'd see if something simpler would work.  In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7k-3 (edgy), package size 2228 kB, installed size 5184 kB
[11:15] <DanaG> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/<IP_ADDRESS>/releasenotes/#install
[11:15] <DanaG> hmm, any chance of seeing a deb of this?
[11:15] <techjim> my synaptic manager won't download any libgpod or gtkpod packages? What's the deal? Are they taking heat from feisty fawn?
[11:15] <Glos_WiFi> xtknight ive got fedup with the problems, so im going to do a fresh install of feisty
[11:15] <Roger_The_Bum> can somebody dcc me the i386 torrent>
[11:15] <xtknight> Glos_WiFi, ah sounds good