[00:00] <sven-tek> Hi! Ubuntu's kernel config has disabled force feedback drivers (CONFIG_HID_FF is not set). Is there a reason for this? I'd like to use this feature.
[00:55] <BenC> emgent: not a kernel bug...and I've never used it so can't really comment on it
[01:00] <emgent> BenC: package is the same, but have problem with the last kernel.. (thinking to wireless card driver)
[01:10] <BenC> emgent: it's probably because the wireless api changed and that package needs to be updated
[15:10] <afflux> Hi. There is a number of people suffering from a regression introduced in the 2.6.24 kernel, where the RTL8111/8168B network chipset does not work at all. The bug is fixed with the intrepid kernel. It's bug 221499
[15:13] <smb_tp> afflux, do you own a card like this?
[15:14] <afflux> no, a friend does.
[15:14] <smb_tp> afflux, I just scanned over the issue, so this might be inaccurate
[15:14] <smb_tp> afflux, I noticed something about interrupt 220
[15:15] <smb_tp> afflux, I saw such high numbers when msi was used
[15:15] <smb_tp> afflux, maybe it would help to try pci=nomsi as a test
[15:15] <afflux> oh okay, I'll give it a try
[15:16] <afflux> thanks for the hint
[15:16] <smb_tp> afflux, I would appreciate to know whether that changed anything
[16:04] <afflux> smb_tp_: it seems to work with pci=nomsi
[16:04] <smb_tp_> afflux, ok, great. that give me some place to start
[16:05] <afflux> okay. I'll post that to the report for the record.
[16:05] <smb_tp_> afflux, ok, had posted that option, but feedback for the record is good. I'll dig for a solution
[16:06] <afflux> great, thanks


[00:38] <diddledan> moo
[00:38] <daftykins> hi
[00:38] <diddledan> o/
[00:39] <daftykins> how goes it, sir?
[00:39] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/g2pQizN.jpg
[00:39] <daftykins> :D
[00:39] <diddledan> pretty good ta
[00:40] <diddledan> mmm icecream ftw
[00:40] <daftykins> that was the good, this was the bad
[00:40] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rkc0ks4ep7w1vnu/IMG_20160711_004924.jpg?dl=0
[00:40] <daftykins> poor little lass got swiped by a neighbour kitty
[00:41] <diddledan> aww :-(
[00:41] <diddledan> lots of cuddles required methinks
[00:41] <daftykins> :) a fine treatment regime
[00:42] <daftykins> heh i was cleaning her electronic cat flap today, she came back to it and i could tell the smell hit her first (used a bit o' fairy liquid)
[00:42] <daftykins> she was all, "eww, no no no wat is this?!"
[01:15] <diddledan> kitties don't like new smeels
[01:15] <daftykins> :D
[01:15] <diddledan> that's why they don't like me.. too many farts :-p
[01:15] <daftykins> had to click away inside looking at her until she came in
[01:15] <diddledan> heh
[01:16] <diddledan> wind's blowing well outside
[01:16] <diddledan> my curtains are waggling
[01:17] <daftykins> mmm i heard a bit of roughness out there too
[01:28] <diddledan> is usb-c designed to handle thunderbolt or have people done something unspecced?
[01:31] <daftykins> USB C is the physical form factor of the thunderbolt port on my Dell XPS 13 9350
[01:31] <daftykins> it also speaks displayport
[01:31] <daftykins> though i think that's encompassed within thunderbolt
[01:33] <diddledan> yah but it also carries USB3.1 so I'm confused as to whether the thunderbolt and usb are converging
[01:34] <diddledan> I mean my mobo says on the box "dual thunderbolt 3 - the usb type-c that does it all" and the usb3.1 are on the same holes
[01:34] <daftykins> that'll likely be from an ASMedia chip
[01:35] <daftykins> you have to bear in mind the industry has ruined "USB 3.1" as that can mean two things, USB 3.1 gen 1 is 5Gbps or what we know as USB 3.0 - whilst USB 3.1 gen 2 is 10Gbps
[01:35] <daftykins> it's a mess :(
[01:36] <diddledan> nuts
[01:36] <daftykins> i don't think my board has thunderbolt, so i dunno there
[01:39]  * diddledan checks the manual to be sure it does thunderbird and 3.1 on the same connector
[01:39] <diddledan> yup. definitely does
[01:41] <diddledan> the specs say it's an intel thunderbird controller
[01:42] <daftykins> on mine, the ASMedia drives the teal coloured USB 3.1 gen 2 ports on the back, one USB C and one USB A
[01:44] <diddledan> yeah. mines only got 3.1 routed to the USB-C's all the USB-A's are 3.0 or less
[01:44] <diddledan> there's a couple 2.0/1.1-only ports too
[01:44] <daftykins> more than one C?
[01:44] <diddledan> two C's
[01:45] <diddledan> both thunderbird capable and both also 3.1
[01:45] <daftykins> when i was shopping for mine i was gonna try and pick intel provided USB 3.1 gen 2, but i gave up caring in the end as it's quite rare
[01:45] <daftykins> gen 2! :P
[01:45] <daftykins> that figures
[01:46] <diddledan> the board is a gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH if you wanna look it up
[01:47] <daftykins> sure, ta
[01:49] <daftykins> interesting, i always wondered what actually drove the image
[01:49] <daftykins> http://www.megachips.us/products/MCDP28_Products.php
[01:49] <daftykins> yours uses the MCDP2800 chip
[01:49] <daftykins> that drives DP and HDMI conversion output from the thunderbolt port
[01:51] <daftykins> bloody dualBIOS :P
[01:51] <daftykins> gigabyte you are nutters
[01:51] <diddledan> lol
[01:51] <diddledan> at least it's not MSI "let's put the BIOS on a USB Disk"
[01:51] <daftykins> are you waiting on RAM now? :>
[01:52] <diddledan> yup
[01:52] <daftykins> wutcha pick? i was quite amused to see that despite stock speed being 2133MHz and them now going beyond 3400MHz, there's practically no benefit in benchmarks
[01:52] <daftykins> http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/5479/20150904094342_big.png :o
[01:53] <daftykins> ooh a port 80 for boot diagnostic codes built in
[01:53] <diddledan> o_O
[01:53] <diddledan> a port80? as in http?
[01:53] <daftykins> :D the two digit seven segment displays
[01:53]  * diddledan shows he's a web guy :-p
[01:53] <diddledan> aah gotcha
[01:54] <diddledan> yup, I spotted that too
[01:54] <diddledan> and a nice button for power switch without wiring-up a case-mounted one
[01:54] <diddledan> no more fiddling with jumpers to test it :-p
[01:55] <daftykins> that one i got off ebay was like that XD
[01:56] <daftykins> what was ace was i've got 3 boards of the same era, so when i unplugged all the front panel IO stuffs from the case, on that little white plastic riser you get with asus gear, it all matched so i just plugged it straight back on the new one \o/
[01:56] <daftykins> although it turned out my board was fine, it was just my graphics card all along
[01:56] <diddledan> I got one of those risers with this gigabyte
[01:57] <diddledan> again with the "no moar fiddling"
[01:58] <daftykins> they're ace
[01:58] <daftykins> my Z170 asus was actually too stingy, i was shocked!
[01:58] <daftykins> remember the days of individually wired USB header connectors? ugh
[01:58] <diddledan> oh god
[01:58] <daftykins> love the new USB 3.0 design for case ones though
[01:58] <diddledan> they were evil
[01:59] <daftykins> VCC, data -, data +, ground, ground!
[02:08] <daftykins> "Software as a service monitoring platform Datadog, used by the likes of Facebook, Salesforce and Citrix, has been breached and therefore suggested strongly that customers reset their passwords."
[02:08] <diddledan> oh dear
[02:08] <daftykins> Other customers include Spotify, The New York Times and Samsung
[02:09] <m0nkey_> ffs
[02:09] <m0nkey_> I'm just going to stop using everything on the web.
[02:11] <daftykins> it's the only way to be sure
[02:19] <m0nkey_> daftykins, you got a link?
[02:20] <daftykins> it's pretty recent on www.theregister.co.uk
[02:20] <daftykins> was reading from feedly on my phone
[02:20] <daftykins> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/11/hacker_bites_datadog_servers_finds_hardtochew_bcrypt_passwords/
[02:20] <daftykins> yeee
[02:22] <diddledan> time to sleep
[02:22] <diddledan> nn
[02:22] <daftykins> g'night sir
[03:15] <daftykins> http://guernseypress.com/news/2016/07/09/pressure-hose-flies-off-and-hits-scooter-rider/
[03:19] <m0nkey_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBJU9ndpH1Q
[03:21] <daftykins> wow!
[06:25] <knightwise> Good morning
[06:26] <knightwise> Pokemons on the roof ! Unity under windows ... What is this ? Jumanji  ?
[07:00] <marshmn> somehow, suspend is now working fine on my laptop
[07:01] <marshmn> maybe some recent system updates made it work
[07:01] <marshmn> no doubt it may break again sometime - I'll enjoy it whilst it lasts :-)
[07:07] <zmoylan-pi> meanwhile it'll keep you in suspense...
[07:12] <knightwise> marshmn: what machine do you have ,
[07:16] <marshmn> knightwise: Dell XPS 15 (not the most recent generation though - the one before)
[07:16] <knightwise> I have the XPS13 ,
[07:17] <knightwise> same gen as yours i think
[07:25] <knightwise> did you do anything special to enable hibernate ?
[07:57] <dogmatic69> hi all, I got a new lenovo E560 and the touchpad is horrible. Cant drag and select files for example because it jumps around the screen
[07:57] <dogmatic69> also cant highlight text as it jumps around.
[07:58] <dogmatic69> anyone seen something like this, or know how to fix it?
[08:05] <knightwise> popey: I think you managed to tick off every single star trek geek in under 30 seconds
[08:05] <knightwise> well done
[08:18] <TwistedLucidity> dogmatic69: Appears to be a common issue with that model - http://askubuntu.com/questions/758663/lenovo-thinkpad-e560-trackpad-stopped-working
[08:19] <TwistedLucidity> I can't see anything offering a guaranteed solution; sorry
[08:22] <TwistedLucidity> The Lenovo Support page does offer Linux updates for BIOS etc. maybe that will help?
[08:24] <davmor2> knightwise: it's a special knack popey has to both endear and annoy in one swift movement ;)
[08:25] <dogmatic69> TwistedLucidity: thanks
[08:25] <dogmatic69> TwistedLucidity: that is actually not the same issue.
[08:26] <knightwise> davmor2: The only thing he could have said that was worse was that he preferred"the animated series"
[08:29] <davmor2> knightwise: Startrek that's the one with darth vader on Galatica with old ben and maxmillion are the droids, with that plucky little firefly that buck rogers flys in the animated version right
[08:30] <TwistedLucidity> dogmatic69: Driver/Module issues can cause seven shades of weirdness. I've not got experience of any Edge-series ThinkPad.
[08:30] <davmor2> popey: ^ that's how you should start every show :D
[08:45] <diplo> Morning all
[08:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:19] <zmoylan-pi> i think trackpads and their suckiness in macos, windows and linux have encouraged me to use console apps more and more
[09:34] <popey> davmor2: knightwise it wasnt intentional
[09:35] <knightwise> popey: did you seriously not know the difference between voy and tng ?
[09:35] <popey> i know both exist
[09:35] <zmoylan-pi> disparaging star trek on irc is worse than hurting cat on internet? :-P
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> as long as you worship at the altar of ds9 all is well... :-P
[09:36] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: right on both accounts
[09:36]  * knightwise is a TOS man .. but loves DS9 too
[09:37] <zmoylan-pi> and if you love ds9 you should go and watch b5 as well
[09:37] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: beentheredonethat :)
[09:37] <zmoylan-pi> see the new episode of trek continues?
[09:38] <knightwise> let there be dragons ?
[09:39] <zmoylan-pi> come not between the dragons
[09:39] <popey> never watched ds9 either
[09:39] <knightwise> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSFHGyLYQ-c
[09:39] <popey> or b5
[09:39] <knightwise> yep :) Fantastic episode zmoylan-pi
[09:39] <popey> mate of mine used to
[09:39] <knightwise> popey: you have a lot to learn :)
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> you hear of geeks who haven't seen trek... but they're so rare... :-P
[09:40] <popey> :)
[09:40] <popey> well, once i plough through stv and tng i will do tge others
[09:40] <popey> netflix ftw
[09:41] <knightwise> VOY is like OITNB in space. Everyone is stuck and Kate Mulgrew is running the show. :)
[09:42] <zmoylan-pi> voyager is lame till the borg show up
[09:42] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: i wanna flip that statement around
[09:42] <zmoylan-pi> then she goes all ellen ripley on the queen
[09:42] <knightwise> Voy is cool UNTILL the borg shows up
[09:43] <davmor2> popey: hahahahahahahahaha
[09:44] <knightwise> popey: agreed
[09:44] <knightwise> my wife is currently rewatching BH90210
[09:44] <knightwise> some of the tech they use there is hilarious
[09:44] <popey> oitnb is ace
[09:44] <davmor2> knightwise: you poor poor man
[09:45] <popey> love mulgrew in it
[09:45] <popey> got 2 eps left to watch
[09:45] <knightwise> davmor2: i watched a couple of episodes with here. ITs not THAT bad actually. I prefer stuff like that to the gore-blood-violence stuff like 'daredevil'
[09:45] <knightwise> popey: indeed. Kate is awe-some
[10:05] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy Cheer Up The Lonely Day! 😃
[10:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: this one sprung straight to mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2mbGP6vFI
[10:43] <JamesTait> davmor2, that takes me back to secondary school, and an assembly my maths teacher gave.  Obviously had an impact if it's stuck with me this long.
[10:44] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're welcome :)
[11:11] <foobarry> does anyone here use okconfig with nagios?
[11:57] <davmor2> oh this is nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuGuSzt5u3c
[11:58] <DJones> Will  whoever ordered rain for the middle of summer please withdraw from any politcal candidacy aspirations. Thank you.
[12:00]  * davmor2 reads the Mail, DJones apparently it's all the fault of the immigrants that the EU sent and it wouldn't of happen if Diana was alive
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> in ireland it is merely warm winter with normal dampness
[12:01] <DJones> davmor2: Yeah, she'd have an umbrella that covered the country to save us
[12:02] <DJones> Ah well, forecast is for no rain for the next 10 days, hedges might get a haircut
[12:02] <davmor2> DJones: http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/In-the-Bible-it-rained-for-40-days-they-called-it-a-disaster.-In-England-we-call-it-summer..jpg
[12:02] <Myrtti> DJones: shush, I like rain. Or overcast. Better than over 22C temp.
[12:02] <Myrtti> 22C is golden, anything above that is torture
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> but soon we'll have rain _AND_ over 22c temp so raincoats just get wet from inside out...
[12:03] <diplo> Nooooooo!!!!!! Myrtti
[12:03] <davmor2> Myrtti: I think people on the rack might disagree with you :)
[12:03] <DJones> Myrtti: I like cold or dry heat, not this junk we've got now, humidity  wrecks me
[12:03] <Myrtti> agree with the humidity being a pain
[12:03] <diplo> Same as DJones
[12:03] <davmor2> pfff it's only 81% humidity wusses
[12:03] <DJones> I loved going to Singapore years back, but 100% humidity at 30C waa horrible
[12:04] <Myrtti> I just sleep so poorly nowadays, I'm rolling in sweat in the bed. Got two hours of sleep last night
[12:04] <Myrtti> it's not good, folks
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> my usual 4 hours of sleep with fan pushing a nice breeze in bedroom
[12:04] <diplo> Window open with a fan works for me too
[12:05] <davmor2> Myrtti: get a ceiling fan or a dyson jobby or an aircon unit
[12:05] <DJones> Myrtti: +1
[12:06] <zmoylan-pi> a dyson fan?! did she win the lottery?
[12:06] <Myrtti> davmor2: mmh, I was tempted earlier in the summer but it's too late now, we've got other stuff to attend to. Can't really keep the windows open all the time for his fear of spiders. Although he's getting better at tolerating them
[12:06] <davmor2> Myrtti: never too late in the uk
[12:07] <Myrtti> oh being in UK has nothing to do with it, it's more about us and our priorities in purchases and the economics of it all
[12:07] <DJones> Myrtti: I wake up around 4:30, with severe sweating, waiting for more hospital tests on my heart, thats even with a ceiling fan
[12:07] <davmor2> September is normally the muggiest month
[12:07] <Myrtti> DJones: 2:50 last night, stayed awake until 0630ish and napped until 8
[12:09] <DJones> Myrtti: Thats a lot like me, wake up early hours, on and off napping four hours after about 2 hours being wide awake
[12:09] <Myrtti> zmoylan-pi: if you have to have Dyson, there's always http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dyson_outlet/
[12:10] <Myrtti> anyway, since my Amazon delivery vigil is now over, I can go for that nap I so sorely need
[15:06] <awilkins> Dyson 4tw
[15:07] <awilkins> My GF has a Henry
[15:07] <awilkins> We are moving in together.  ii) Whenever you clean with him, he makes the room smell of feet
[15:08] <Oli> + bags
[15:08] <awilkins> Yes.
[15:08] <awilkins> Everyone heard the news about who's gonna be PM? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10616420/frown.png
[15:09] <Oli> I wish Dyson would buy them and make a 4KW professional bagless wheelie-Dyson. Their current line of "Animal" products fail quite hard when you have a golden retriever.
[15:11] <davmor2> awilkins: henry and gtech are both better options than dyson we discovered :(
[15:11] <Oli> Or, buy them (numatic) and iRobot (of Roomba fame) and build a house-super-cleaning Dalek
[15:29] <diddledan> we got a new pm?
[15:29] <foobarry> is it the matron stormtrooper from force awakens?
[15:29] <diddledan> oh
[15:29] <diddledan> we have
[15:30] <diddledan> andrea pulled-out?
[15:31] <diddledan> theresa reminds me of maggie
[15:32] <evilchristel> i cannot help but fear that when she's done with us we'll think of maggie as the kind, considerate grannie that we wish we still had
[15:34] <foobarry> http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Harriet_Jones
[15:36] <diddledan> foobarry: does she look tired to you?
[15:36] <foobarry> also...captain phasma
[20:03] <diddledan> so this is a thing: http://www.boycottdocker.org/
[20:03] <diddledan> it's very random and ranty and I can't make any sense out of it at all
[20:03] <Myrtti> btw Brian Cox just started in BBC1
[20:54] <marshmn> diddledan: I think that's been around for some time?
[20:54] <diddledan> aye
[20:55] <marshmn> diddledan: personally, I find Docker to be an incredibly helpful piece of the modern web development stack
[20:55] <marshmn> maybe there are improvements to be made, rival technologies to thrive - but at least for now, Docker has changed the world quite a bit
[20:58] <diddledan> what annoys me is there seem to be two camps for webdevs: docker and vagrant. (of those that use a separate env for their work)
[20:59] <diddledan> so I'm finding that there are some tools which want each
[20:59] <diddledan> vagrant is really annoying in that it requires a VM
[20:59] <marshmn> sure
[20:59] <diddledan> or at least most people's implementation of vagrantfiles require such
[21:00] <marshmn> I used to use Vagrant
[21:00] <diddledan> vagrant _can_ back onto docker but people don't add that support to their vagrantfile
[21:00] <marshmn> but these days I only use Docker really
[21:00] <diddledan> that's my main gripe about: https://github.com/Varying-Vagrant-Vagrants/VVV
[21:01] <diddledan> it's a WordPress environment
[21:02] <marshmn> when I used Vagrant, it was pretty much as the basis for a dev environment only
[21:02] <diddledan> e.g. if I'm in Windows I can't install a VMM because I wanna use Hyper-v for other stuff
[21:03] <marshmn> with Docker, I have something that I feel comfortable using in dev, staging & production
[21:03] <marshmn> and it's so much lighter weight
[21:03] <marshmn> I just don't find the need for Vagrant anymore
[21:03] <marshmn> not that I've got anything massively against Vagrant
[21:03] <marshmn> I just don't find a need for it
[21:04] <marshmn> YMMV
[21:04] <diddledan> the guys behind vagrant have a new thingy: https://www.ottoproject.io/
[21:06] <marshmn> might be interesting
[21:06] <diddledan> I get the impression that otto project is kinda like "vagrant doesn't quite work right. let's not fix it and do something completely different instead."
[21:06] <marshmn> hehe
[21:06] <diddledan> i.e. throw ouot the baby with the bathwater
[21:06] <marshmn> quite possibly :)
[21:17] <daftykins> \o
[21:21] <diddledan> o/
[21:29] <daftykins> diddledan: any further arrivals? :)
[21:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[21:30] <daftykins> evenin'
[21:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi daftykins but anyone actusally from UK about :D ?
[21:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> since my question is for
[21:31] <diddledan> nope, still waiting
[21:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> diddledan, where are you from?
[21:32] <daftykins> well that's not very nice :P
[21:32] <diddledan> I love you, still, daftykins
[21:32]  * daftykins hugs diddledan
[21:32] <diddledan> <o/
[21:32] <diddledan> err
[21:32] <diddledan> \o/
[21:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> daftykins, Theresa May as prime minster won't effect you much
[21:32] <diddledan> silly keymap
[21:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> daftykins, if at all
[21:32] <daftykins> oh lawd you're not gonna bring up politics are you ;D
[21:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> well that's todays news
[21:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Theresa May will be prime minster probably by Wednesday evening
[21:33] <diddledan> \o/
[21:33] <diddledan> that's better
[21:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> what does people think of that?
[21:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> here
[21:33] <diddledan> I think:
[21:33] <diddledan> .politics
[21:33] <diddledan> !politics
[21:33] <diddledan> that one ^
[21:33] <daftykins> >:D
[21:34] <diddledan> muahahaha
[21:35] <daftykins> the reg told me she shares a name with some kind of adult entertainer
[21:35] <diddledan> hah
[21:35] <diddledan> the reg would know of such things ;-)
[21:35] <daftykins> apparently said entertainer features in The Prodigy's "Smack My B**** Up" music video
[22:59] <diddledan> well bother me: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/someone-just-installed-unity-windows
[23:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> diddledan, that's old news like two days now
[23:00] <diddledan> sorry I breathed
[23:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> diddledan, also using the Windows 10  and Ubuntu thing etc, someone had already installed XFCE even


[00:49] <julen> hola
[00:49] <julen> me he descargado hoy ubuntu mate
[00:49] <julen> que les parece este sistema operativo?
[01:09] <ubuntu-mate> I am trying to reinstall grub. How do i do that
[01:40] <mate|70990> I had Linux Mint Mate on my computer, but there was one or two things I did not like about it. I have Ubuntu Mate installed now.
[04:06] <slu2> Hey everyone. I was trying to run an old disc game called King's Quest. Any ideas on how I can install the game on Ubuntu?
[04:06] <Nathan-0> is it an old windows game slu2?
[04:06] <slu2> yes
[04:07] <slu2> lol Windows 3.1 to be exact...
[04:08] <Nathan-0> have you tried WINE ?
[04:09] <slu2> What is WINE, Nathan? It seems I've been out of the CPU loop for sometime.
[04:09] <Nathan-0> https://www.winehq.org/
[04:10] <slu2> Interesting...I will check this out for now. Thanks Nathan.
[04:10] <Nathan-0> you can run some windows programs on linux with WINE
[04:12] <Nathan-0> scummVM might be of interest to you as well if you want to play older games like that
[04:13] <Nathan-0> Kings Quest looks to be supported on scummVM
[04:13] <Nathan-0> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ScummVM#Supported_games
[04:18] <slu2> checking out scumm right now too.
[04:30] <slu2> Alright gonna go see if these emulators work. Thanks again Nathan.
[04:36] <Nathan-0> nice!
[05:41] <wangshun> hi
[05:42] <Nathan-0> hey wang
[05:42] <Nathan-0> bye wang
[07:23] <leoharan27> moin
[07:26] <alkisg> Good morning
[09:37] <mate|11606> hey
[09:38] <diogenes_> hey
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[09:54] <guest-s3nvpl> 9090
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[09:55] <diogenes_> guest-s3nvpl, you need any help? :)
[20:28] <mandje__> hi all.  help!  i installed plank amongst other stuff in a crazy mood to osx umate. how to get red of this. like reverse...   this plank thing is driving me nuts. cpu goes up to 90% just looking at this idiot task-switcher.
[20:30] <diogenes_> mandje__, uninstall?
[20:31] <mandje__> uninstall yes. but i dont know what it was replacing.  what is the standard gui set in umate?
[20:38] <mandje__> if i´d had my data on a separate partition i would reinstall. but moving the data around is cumbersome.  looking at the screenshots on umate site.
[20:38] <alkisg> mandje__: you can reinstall without formatting your partition, e.g. keeping only /home
[20:39] <alkisg> You can see the packages you installed in /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:41] <mandje__> alkisg, really?  so you have 1 partition with system and /home on it, and while reinstalling leave /home alone?
[20:41] <alkisg> Yup
[20:42] <alkisg> If in doubt, you can do something like "mkdir /my-old-installation; mv * /my-old-installation" from the live cd before installing, so that you keep everything in a subdir
[20:43] <alkisg> In that case, you'd find the old home in /my-old-installation/home
[20:43] <mandje__> cool. history.log also nice te be using. tnx ever so much.
[20:45] <mandje__> mv /home /my-old-home/ would do as well and use up less space right?
[21:00] <alkisg> mandje__: I meant, in case you want to keep all the old installation to see if you saved things elsewhere or if you  have settings that you want to see etc
[21:00] <alkisg> Otherwise, there's no need to move home, leave it as it is, it will be reused
[21:00] <alkisg> Just be careful not to format at the partitioning step, but to reuse as ext4
[21:00] <mandje__> righto alkisg
[21:05] <mandje__> looking at the history logs 1, 2, 3 and 4..  it´s a jungle of initial installs, updates and in between somewhere user initiated software installs.
[21:08] <mandje__> i think i´ll make some screenshots of open menu´s and whatnot visible stuff in the interface to have a general reminder of what´s installed by mandje__ himself.
[21:12] <diogenes_> Hey guys, huge security flaw in intel chips, everyone is adviced to patch: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150
[22:25] <ThatWasLeftHande> Hello, is there a way I can get help for a problem I'm having?
[22:26] <Nathan> hey ThatWasLeftHande
[22:26] <Astro7467> !ask
[22:49] <jimo_mate> hello
[22:50] <Nathan> hello
[22:50] <jimo_mate> just two real quick (probably ) questions
[22:51] <jimo_mate> one.After many years using Mint switched back to Ubuntu Mate (lure me back again) Main reason was a damn wifi usb adapter TP LINKTL-WN722N
[22:52] <jimo_mate> Couldnt make it to work in Mint Mate/Xfce no matter what... its kernel is just so picky Neither compilation of the driver nor pre fixed drives made any difference
[22:53] <jimo_mate> So i noticed that Ubuntu using Gnome again through Mate and thought to give it a shot, And....voila!!!!! Wifi worked out of the box
[22:54] <jimo_mate> Well that was no question of course so im going to the real thing. I have fallen in love with compiz only for that burn effect and if i can t install it through compiz i immediately change dDistro
[22:55] <jimo_mate> i tried and installed it here also but it crashes a lot. Found out by luck that with Nvidia Binary closed drivers crashes immediately
[22:56] <jimo_mate> i think 340 ...... something The previous version 204 plays ok but every now and then after restart mostly keeps giving me artifacts in taskbar
[22:57] <jimo_mate> Plays even better with NOuveau xorg drivers but i dont know the differences from the Nvidia ONE..... Does Nuveau uses the gpu acceleration for effects or depends on cpu also?
[22:57] <jimo_mate> ok that was no quick at all
[23:00] <jimo_mate> oh and the second question is i can seem to install WPS Office...anyone knows a good how to...
[23:01] <Nathan> can't* ?
[23:03] <Nathan> wow, never heard of WPS before. I've always used Libre Office
[23:04] <jimo_mate> yes sorry cant
[23:04] <jimo_mate> Libre sometimes doesnt go along with office formulas
[23:05] <jimo_mate> Mostly i want to know about the difference between gpu drivers
[23:06] <Nathan> hopefully there is someone on here with more knowledge about that for you?
[23:06] <jimo_mate> DO i loose something if i stick with X.Org X Server Nouveau instead the Nvidia one?
[23:07] <jimo_mate> yes thank you for the efford though
[23:07] <jimo_mate> effort
[23:10] <Nathan> so the deb for WPS doesn't work for you?
[23:11] <jimo_mate> wps-office_<IP_ADDRESS>07~a21_amd64.deb
[23:13] <jimo_mate> upon installation Error:Dependency is not satisiable Libpng12-0
[23:18] <Nathan> what happens if you install libpng12?


[02:26] <IdleOne> nhandler: thanks for the edit :)
[03:18] <IdleOne> Why don't the aliases get updated when a factoid is updated?
[03:18] <IdleOne> for example !10.10 and !maverick
[03:19] <persia> !-10.10
[03:19] <persia> !-maverick
[03:20] <persia> IdleOne, Because they aren't aliases :)
[03:20] <IdleOne> ahh
[03:20] <IdleOne> well can you make maverick be == to !10.10
[03:20]  * persia no longer has permission to edit factoids
[03:20] <IdleOne> :/
[03:21] <IdleOne> I feel your pain
[03:21] <IdleOne> heh
[03:22] <IdleOne> ubottu: maverick is Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October, 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[03:22] <IdleOne> someone will see it and make the change hopefully :) *nudge nhandler *
[03:23] <nhandler> IdleOne: Think it should simply be made an alias?
[03:23] <IdleOne> that would make more sense yeah
[03:25] <nhandler> ubottu: !no maverick is <reply> Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October, 10, 2010 - Maverick Release Candidate at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 , discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[03:25] <nhandler> ubottu: !no 10.10 is <alias> maverick
[03:27] <nhandler> IdleOne: Check that everything looks alright
[03:28] <IdleOne> !10.10
[03:28] <IdleOne> !mavrick
[03:28] <IdleOne> lol
[03:28] <IdleOne> funny
[03:28] <IdleOne> !maverick
[03:29] <IdleOne> yeah looks good now
[03:29] <IdleOne> thank you
[03:30] <IdleOne> s/October, 10, 2010/October 10 2010
[03:30] <IdleOne> errr
[03:31] <IdleOne> or whatever the correct date format should be
[03:35] <nhandler> ubottu: maverick =~ s/October, 10, 2010/October 10, 2010/
[03:36] <IdleOne> perfect, thanks :)
[03:38] <persia> 10 October 2010 :p
[03:39]  * persia prefers dates to be little-endian or big-endian and NOT confused-endian
[03:40] <IdleOne> well the bother was the comma between October and 10
[03:47] <persia> Indeed.  Accepted usage for common locales dictations "October 10, 2010" which fails by 1) being unevenly delimted, 2) being confused-endian, and 3) using differing encodings for month and day (compare "October tenth" or "10/10")
[03:47] <persia> But it's "correct" from a contemporary observed linguistic viewpoint.
[03:47] <persia> s/dictations/dictates/
[10:32] <bazhang> dont see a reason for him to access to #ubuntu if he wont change it
[10:32] <bazhang> +have
[10:37] <ikonia> who/what/where
[10:39] <bazhang> rocket16 and his "Glory to Mighty Aryans!" quit message
[10:39] <bazhang> refused to change it, then quit -ot saying that linking aryans to post-weimar german govt was idiocy
[10:42] <topyli> never mind his reasoning. clearly the quit message bothered someone enough to request he change it, so he should
[11:54] <gnomefreak> n/win 20
[12:14] <oCean> hi
[12:14] <oCean> floodbot2 just set +r in #ubuntu, is that intentional?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> hi
[12:15] <gnomefreak> it didnt happen since i can back a little while ago
[12:16] <oCean> Hm, I don't know why it would. Anyway just a heads-up.
[12:16] <oCean> Bye
[16:02] <jpds> bazhang: Hmm.
[16:02] <bazhang> appears to be abusive; rly?
[16:04] <jpds> My name's not Reilly.
[17:41] <maco> l0de is a member of one of freenode's favourite troll groups, right?
[17:45] <maco> yeah i remember this routine. eventually shows a "screenshot of the virus" and really it's a link to porn
[17:54] <gord> i feel like a group of trolls should have a name, like a group of crows is a murder
[17:54] <gord> an "embarrassment of trolls"?
[18:13] <Seeker`> -17:13:30- ~s~ Irssi: Starting query in freenode with Lahtex
[18:13] <Seeker`> -17:13:30- Lahtex: Seeker`: Your have been scheduled for termination.
[18:17] <Seeker`> anyone recognise the name?
[19:45] <IdleOne> appears bazhang has a fan club
[19:46] <IdleOne> two users joining and harassing/swearing
[19:48] <IdleOne> 100110-[14:47:48] <CpOphora> T-Minus 32 minutes before we take control. Do you wish to eject already ?
[19:48] <IdleOne> take what over?
[19:48] <Seeker`> no idea, but I was scheduled for termination, apparently
[19:48] <IdleOne> no time table was given to you?
[19:48] <Seeker`> no :(
[19:49] <IdleOne> safe to assume you have 31 minutes
[19:49]  * Seeker` panics
[19:49] <IdleOne> lol
[19:49] <Tm_T> Seeker`: don't forget to feed the cat
[19:50] <Seeker`> cats are evil. They can feed themselves
[19:50] <IdleOne> might need some swedish help in #u
[19:52] <IdleOne> ewww <CpOphora> went from troll to creepy
[19:52] <IdleOne> in PM
[19:52] <Seeker`> what did they say?
[19:52] <Tm_T> talar = speaking
[19:52] <IdleOne> I mean, wtf-creepy
[19:52] <Seeker`> what did they say?
[19:52] <Tm_T> skit = shit
[19:53] <Seeker`> IdleOne: ?
[19:53] <IdleOne> 100110-[14:52:25] <CpOphora> I wish to be spanked by your childishness :)
[19:53] <IdleOne> WHAT!?
[19:53]  * Tm_T gives crash course to sverige
[19:53] <Seeker`> nah, thats not wtf-creepy
[19:54] <Seeker`> you have much to learn, young one :P
[19:54] <IdleOne> I am not accustomed to people asking for spankings
[19:54] <knome> Tm_T, in sverige, there no other courses than CRASH
[19:54] <IdleOne> well not on irc
[19:54] <maco> haha
[19:54] <IdleOne> lol
[19:55] <knome> Tm_T, but to be correct, sverige is the country, svenska is the language...
[19:55] <Seeker`> I wonder if we should get some staff involved if these people/person keeps coming back?
[19:56] <IdleOne> my guess is we  can expect an influx of spam, idoru will kline
[19:56] <Tm_T> knome: right, just get typed is taking too much brain capacity
[19:57] <knome> Tm_T, i totally understand, it's always hard to choose your words wisely when you're talking about such... high-class people like the swedes
[19:57] <Seeker`> addbba has my troll-sense tingling for some reason
[19:58] <marienz> I wouln't be too worried (I've had someone claim they were about to ddos freenode into oblivion much the same way)
[19:58] <knome> Seeker`, your trololololo-sens?
[19:58] <Seeker`> O.o
[19:58] <marienz> but I'll try to be around when their supposed deadline expires, just in case. When's that, 20 past the hour?
[19:59] <IdleOne> marienz: I just find it amusing when they give a warning, much like the IRA would do back in the day
[19:59] <IdleOne> ~20mins or so yeah
[19:59] <Tm_T> knome: no, simply writing with small onscreen keyboard in the dark room, over really laggy ssh connection
[20:00] <Seeker`> IdleOne: the IRA wanted to cause fear, not hurt people
[20:00] <Seeker`> afaik
[20:00] <IdleOne> Seeker`: the comparison was not a good one I agree
[20:02] <knome> Tm_T, you don't think swedes are high-class people? ;)
[20:03] <Tm_T> no
[20:40] <bazhang> * Turboz has quit (K-Lined)   IdleOne that one?
[20:41] <IdleOne> nope
[20:41] <bazhang> care to share then?
[20:41] <IdleOne> was Pungen and CpOphora
[20:41] <bazhang> yikes. never heard of 'em
[20:42] <IdleOne> BT 28960
[20:42] <IdleOne> and 61
[20:42] <bazhang> sock puppets from the look of it
[20:43] <IdleOne> that 32 minutes time limit we had left has come and gone
[20:43] <IdleOne> Seeker`: still with us?
[21:10] <bazhang> IdleOne, thanks
[21:10] <IdleOne> sure, for what?
[21:11] <bazhang> the 'fan club' info
[21:12] <ikonia> ??
[21:13] <IdleOne> oh
[21:13] <IdleOne> no problem
[21:14] <Seeker`> IdleOne: apparently so
[21:14] <bazhang> ratdog still problematic it seems; going on earlier on how due to his 'disabilities' he should be allowed great latitude in being offtopic in #ubuntu
[21:21] <IdleOne> just quiet him
[21:21] <ikonia> it will be done now
[21:22] <ikonia> the ban list is full
[21:22] <ikonia> I had to remove a ban to put him in, that's why I didn't kick him again
[21:22] <ikonia> !ops | can we look at the ban list please
[21:23] <bazhang> of course almost no one is highlighted by that^^
[21:23] <tsimpson> !ops-#ubuntu | ^
[21:23] <tsimpson> hmm, that should've worked
[21:24] <tsimpson> there really should be an #ubuntu specific factoid...
[21:28] <bazhang> or make more people ops in here
[21:28] <ikonia> don't think that would change anything as the facoitd is just a list
[21:29] <bazhang> half the people on that list are rarely if ever around
[21:29] <topyli> the list sucks yes
[21:30] <tsimpson> I think the +e list is not empting again
[21:32] <ikonia> wont do because the ban list was full
[21:32] <ikonia> should do now
[21:32] <tsimpson> the "ban" list includes the exemption list
[21:33] <ikonia> thats what I mean, it can't +e if there is no room
[21:33] <niko> 134 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@unaffiliated/bacta [by calvino.freenode.net, 3754325 secs ago]
[21:34] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[21:34] <ikonia> did I do that
[21:34] <ikonia> ah, he's lost his cloak anyway
[21:34] <niko> yes
[21:34] <ikonia> no big deal then
[21:34] <ikonia> I can't see him getting it back for the 10th time
[21:35] <ikonia> there should still be a name based ban and an IP based ban
[21:39] <ikonia> ok, ban list looks better
[21:39] <ikonia> niko: nice catch
[21:40] <niko> also 320 - #ubuntu: ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[by calvino.freenode.net, 3754325 secs ago] ><EMAIL_ADDRESS>is better i guess
[21:40] <ikonia> feel free
[21:40] <niko> is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>a choice ?
[21:40] <bazhang> was not going to remove that one
[21:41] <bazhang> ie the Hitler one
[21:41] <ikonia> yes, it's meant to be banned
[21:41] <niko> one useless :
[21:41] <niko> 2010/10/01 22:32:19 -!- 183 - #ubuntu: ban $r:Fuck* [by calvino.freenode.net, 3754325 secs ago]
[21:41] <niko> 2010/10/01 22:32:19 -!- 184 - #ubuntu: ban $r:Fuck [by calvino.freenode.net, 3754325 secs ago]
[21:42] <niko> 77 - #ubuntu: ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[by calvino.freenode.net, 3754325 secs ago] used to change subdomain
[21:42] <bazhang> -wendy/#ubuntu- wendy has sent you a memo read it by typing /server MEMO 8323  should I respond to that notice?
[21:42] <ikonia> what the hell was that
[21:42] <bazhang> just /noticed me
[21:43] <ikonia> did the whole channel
[21:43] <bazhang> ah okay klined
[21:43] <ikonia> byeeeeee
[21:43] <IdleOne> if you do a /server $anything  it will disconect you
[21:44] <IdleOne> so, no.
[21:44] <IdleOne> /msg memoserv read some_number iirc
[21:47] <ikonia> Guest_39482: can we help you ?
[21:47] <Guest_39482> hi
[21:47] <ikonia> hi
[21:48] <ikonia> thanks for joining
[21:48] <Guest_39482> can i make a request for ubuntu 10.10 (i am a beta tester)
[21:48] <ikonia> ?
[21:48] <ikonia> it's free to download
[21:48] <Guest_39482> can you guys tell the company canonical to help make the WINE prog4ram
[21:48] <Guest_39482> program
[21:48] <ikonia> canonical doesn't make wine
[21:48] <tsimpson> if you
[21:48] <Guest_39482> so people can use windows programs
[21:48] <Guest_39482> yeah but i was wondering if you could tell them to do it
[21:48] <tsimpson> *if you're looking for support, try #ubuntu+1
[21:48] <Guest_39482> because when they sponsor it, it is more powerful
[21:49] <ikonia> they  don't make wine
[21:49] <Guest_39482> but if they wanted to, could they?
[21:49] <ikonia> no
[21:49] <Guest_39482> oh :\
[21:49] <tsimpson> it is up to Canonical to decide what projects they sponsor, it has nothing to do with us
[21:49] <Guest_39482> ok, thank you tsimpson and ikonia!
[21:50] <ikonia> doesn't come across well as a beta tester
[21:51] <tsimpson> the majority of beta testers these days probably should not be beta testers
[21:51] <tsimpson> but, the times, they are a-changing
[21:53] <charlie-tca> +1
[21:54] <ikonia> +10
[21:54] <charlie-tca> Although, I would have thought a "beta tester" should have 10.10 running already. We released the RC yesterday
[23:47] <nhandler> ubottu: !no register is <reply> Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode


[20:15] <zequence> Finally got a passwd to admin the user mail list. Apparently that David guy has already left the list, so no need to ban him
[20:15] <elfy> ready for next time :)
[20:18] <zequence> With knives and explosives ;D
[20:18]  * elfy is just sorting a temp e-mail address out for you to practice on :)
[20:19] <cub> I wonder if David's email was taken over because I think I've seen proper emails from that adress before
[20:19] <cub> or else he suddenly was very unhappy with linux. :D
[20:39] <zequence> cub: I didn't look through previous posts, but had a feeling I had seen his name in other contests
[20:39] <zequence> contexts
[21:17] <OvenWerk1> holstein: did you see the two emails about firewire interfaces?
[21:18] <OvenWerk1> I think you are the only one who has one...
[21:19] <OvenWerk1> I think having alsa drivers for firewire is a good idea and these are not supposed to interfere with the jackd FW backend.
[21:20] <OvenWerk1> I don't know if that means alsa can use the ports at the same time as jack or something else... I would assume either/or
[21:21]  * OvenWerk1 has to pick up son from school


[04:39] <MTecknology> newz2000: Is there any chance we could have a style.css on s.ubuntu.ru ?
[04:40] <MTecknology> I LOVE seeing it hosted on nginx... I bet I could improve w/e nginx config they have though.. :P
[04:41] <MTecknology> I was thinking something like http://s.ubuntu.ru/light-{drupal,django,etc.}-style.css
[04:43] <MTecknology> mhall119: or if you're around - what's your thoughts on that?
[05:30] <MTecknology> cjohnston: You around at all?
[05:32] <MTecknology> Is anyone awake? :P
[11:35] <Mez> wb Daviey
[11:36] <Daviey> hello Mez
[11:36] <Daviey> Mez: I'll review your merges today, promise :)
[11:36] <Mez> Daviey: We're all volunteers, if you don't have time, you don't have time :P
[11:37] <Mez> well, I say all, I mean most
[11:37]  * Daviey raises a fist at Beta.
[11:37] <jpds> But we all have the same ammount of time?
[11:37] <Mez> jpds: but we don't all have the same allocations of time
[11:37] <Mez> jpds: and that really depends on your life expectancy
[11:38] <jpds> Day-to-day, I meant
[11:38] <Mez> jpds - I could get run over by a bus lter
[11:39] <jpds> Mez: That would be unforatunate.
[11:40] <Mez> espescialy as my company has a bus factor of 1 for sysadmin stuff
[22:37] <MTecknology> wow... I looked at the dev branch for light-drupal-theme and the diff is up to 1,345 lines


[15:38] <ghostlines> anyone know some popular irc channels
[15:38] <ghostlines> sorry some popular java channels?


[00:06] <lamont> and children
[09:00] <AnAnt> Hello, I am using LDAP authentication on my machine, the problem is that lightdm (unity-greeter)  doesn't show all users on LDAP, neither does it allow entering an arbitrary user, how can I fix that ?
[09:01] <ikonia> AnAnt: please don't cross-post your question in multiple channels, pick the best channel and ask in theere
[09:01] <AnAnt> ikonia: which is the best channel ?
[09:02] <ikonia> AnAnt: up to you
[09:28] <AnAnt> is pam-auth-update supposed to update /etc/pam.d/lightdm ?
[09:29] <AnAnt> I note that it already includes common-* files
[09:29] <ikonia> AnAnt: as I'm reading it now
[09:29] <ikonia> no
[09:30] <AnAnt> so back to square one
[09:30] <ikonia> it looks like you will need to do that manually, I don't even think it's meant to update lightdm (it's questionable about if it should be designed to do that)
[09:31] <AnAnt> ikonia: but what should I add ?
[09:31] <ikonia> AnAnt: it depends on the setup
[09:32] <ikonia> AnAnt: have a little research on pam rules
[09:32] <ikonia> (also use what's there as an idea/guide)
[09:34] <AnAnt> ikonia: ok, there's another problem with lightdm, that it doesn't allow to enter a username (ie. I only can select from a list of usernames)
[09:35] <ikonia> someone has asked about that before
[09:35] <ikonia> AnAnt: that is configurable......I just don't know/can't remember where
[09:37] <AnAnt> ah, greeter-show-manual-login
[09:37] <ikonia> well done
[09:39] <AnAnt> funny thing is that the default is true !
[09:39] <AnAnt> erm, maybe I'm wrong
[10:50] <AnAnt> thanks
[11:09] <Italian_Plumber> good morning.  I am testing a machine where I am adding a minimal GUI.  I have installed "gdm" and several other packages, but not the full GUI found on ubuntu desktop.  What is the package for the GUI program for adding and maintining users?  I can't seem to find it.
[12:34] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: did you need something?
[12:35] <SpamapS> Italian_Plumber: perhaps look into Lubuntu.. which gives you LXDE.. a very light weight desktop
[12:41] <Italian_Plumber> SpamapS: thanks, I had forgot about that... that's a good idea for what I want to do
[15:00] <marc_12314> I constantly have error message in my syslog with  "[drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for…"… is it possible to tell the system to ignore those messages so they don't get in the log??  (it's for a headless server with very old graphic card and very old monitor, only used so I can see the bios when I boot… so I don't really care about that error)
[15:01] <marc_12314> using syslog-ng btw
[15:04] <JanC> you get that error repeatedly?
[15:05] <marc_12314> yes, something about the video card not able to identify the monitor I guess
[15:06] <marc_12314> every 10 seconds
[15:06] <marc_12314> you can imagine my syslog :P
[15:07] <JanC> I don't use syslog-ng, but maybe blacklisting nouveau is an option too
[15:08] <marc_12314> I see that the config file have some  destination / filter / log  settings… I found that  I can set a destination named d_drop with no destination, so it would simply drop those messages… but can't find how to filter what I need :/
[15:09] <marc_12314> how would you go about blacklisting nouveau?
[15:10] <marc_12314> (I hate that name "nouveau", it means "new" in french… make no sense to me that is the graphic card drivers :P)
[15:11] <JanC> I know french  ;)
[15:11] <JanC> I guess it was a word game: NouVeau to make a new NVidia driver  ;)
[15:14] <marc_12314> JanC: could be… I can live with that  :)
[15:16] <JanC> anyway, blacklist the nouveau module
[15:17] <marc_12314> If I blacklist that module, does it mean I won't have any screen output after the bios ?
[15:18] <JanC> I think it will use text mode instead of a framebuffer
[15:21] <marc_12314> so… I create a new file in  /etc/modprobe.d/   and simply put   "blacklist nouveau"
[15:21] <marc_12314> is that correct?
[15:22] <JanC> yes, afaik
[15:24] <JanC> there might also be a way to disable EDID in nouveau, but I don't seem to have a manpage for it
[15:26] <marc_12314> ooooh, look at that, there's a loading screen on ubuntu 12.04…  I never saw that before :P  guess the driver was crashing, I always had a blank screen for 2-3 seconds before the login prompt
[15:27] <marc_12314> it worked perfect, clean log now :)
[15:27] <marc_12314> (well, kinda)
[15:28] <JanC> blame nvidia (Linus did it before you ;) )
[15:28] <marc_12314> lol, yeah, I saw that!  very funny
[15:28] <JanC> actually, the rest of that talk was a lot more interesting
[15:33] <marc_12314> didn't had time to look at the talk yet… pretty weird, I found 2 source for the full talk video (vimeo and youtube) in both case the screen goes blank when I load the page...
[15:35] <marc_12314> wow, every link I find that is supposed to have the full video goes blank… wtf….
[15:41] <JanC> marc_12314: youtube/vimeo need JavaScript etc.
[15:41] <JanC> maybe even Java and/or flash
[15:42] <marc_12314> JanC: everything else works, I can see all videos, but everything about that talk in full length, the page goes blank… really weird
[15:43] <JanC> you have any content filter?
[15:44] <marc_12314> nope.   but closed the browser and now it's working…
[15:45] <JanC> nice, now you will see Linus explaining to the entrepreneur society why and how he avoided becoming an entrepreneur...  ☺
[15:46] <JanC> (but also saying thanks to the entrepreneurs who built their company on selling linux)
[15:47] <marc_12314> JanC, thanks a lot for your help.  I'll try to find time to watch that video later tonight.
[15:57] <Womkes> What is currently the correct way to restart networking
[15:57] <Womkes> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart tells me that it's depricated
[15:57] <ikonia> Womkes: service networking restart
[15:59] <JanC> ikonia: plus "sudo"  ;)
[15:59] <ikonia> but of course
[15:59] <JanC> in most cases at least
[16:00] <Womkes> stop: Unknown instance:
[16:00] <Womkes> networking stop/waiting
[16:00] <Womkes> I get that?
[16:00] <Womkes> Supposed to do that?
[17:30] <jpablorp> Hola, Alguien me puede ayudar con una configuracion de un servidor dhcp para que los clientes de este tengan internet
[17:59] <jpablorp> alguien me podria ayudar porfa
[18:00] <escott> !es
[18:12] <jpablorp> :S
[18:12] <jpablorp> can you help me?!
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> !help
[18:15] <jpablorp> ok, i have a server of DHCP and i want to give network for my clients but i don't now how
[18:15] <jpablorp> know *
[18:46] <jpablorp> !help
[19:53] <RedBeard_> hello, does anyone know a good video capture software suitable for ubuntu-server ? and is it possible to run in non-GUI mode?
[19:53] <RedBeard_> for security type cameras
[19:59] <RoyK> RedBeard_: vlc or ffmpeg or ...
[20:02] <RedBeard_> ok great, is it possible to run it without starting the GUI ?
[20:03] <RoyK> RedBeard_: yes
[20:04] <RoyK> RedBeard_: ffmpeg is commandline only, but a bit hard to setup, vlc has commandline mode
[20:05] <RedBeard_> ok , i plan on running a virtual box running pfsense for my dhcp/firewall, etc.  i want to have as many resources available, while still capturing video
[20:07] <RedBeard_> i am currently running pfsense freebsd directly installed, but im not sure if i can also do vid cap, so i thought i would need to install ubuntu instead and Vbox pfsense
[20:32] <RoyK> RedBeard_: you want to capture video on pfSense?
[22:30] <macnix> need a bit of help restoring an LVM volume
[22:41] <patdk-lap> restoring?
[22:43] <macnix> yeah, I can't seem to mount it anymore
[22:44] <macnix> I keep getting "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[22:44] <patdk-lap> you don't mount lvm
[22:44] <macnix> and if I go with -t ext4, I get "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/lvm--raid-lvm0"
[22:45] <patdk-lap> what does blkid say?
[22:45] <macnix> patdk-lap: nothing for /dev/lvm-raid/lvm0
[22:46] <patdk-lap> hmm
[22:46] <macnix> ok the raid6 however I get: /dev/md2: UUID="sJxydW-lMTJ-fsQn-Bln1-z6Cj-Dt6F-OPxMtr" TYPE="LVM2_member"
[22:46] <macnix> which I can't mount
[22:46] <patdk-lap> ya, that seems fine
[22:46] <macnix> I've found this: http://www.softpanorama.org/Commercial_linuxes/LVM/recovery_of_lvm_partitions.shtml
[22:46] <macnix> following the LVM setup recovery


[01:24] <grendal_prime> hi
[01:24] <grendal_prime> whasup?
[01:24] <rww> 01:24:45 -!- Irssi: Ban against grendal_prime!*@*$#ubuntu-ops matches<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Set by  ikonia!~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia)
[01:24] <rww> let's see...
[01:25] <grendal_prime> from when?
[01:25] <rww> checking, sec
[01:25] <grendal_prime> would have been long time ago.
[01:25] <grendal_prime> i wasnt even  talking in  ubuntu.
[01:26] <grendal_prime> by the way that addres is totally correct on the money i wont deny that
[01:26] <grendal_prime> and i have geen kicked before
[01:26] <rww> Jul 21 2014 06:22:16
[01:26] <grendal_prime> this month?
[01:26] <grendal_prime> there is no way
[01:26] <rww> clearly there is, since that's when it happened :)
[01:27] <grendal_prime> i started working on my bach degree at the beginning of this month i have had no time for ubuntu irc
[01:27] <grendal_prime> was not me...why is this comming up right now by the way?
[01:28] <grendal_prime> the only thing i have irced in over a month started last night for minetest for my kids.
[01:28] <rww> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/07/21/%23ubuntu.html#t05:47
[01:28] <rww> and yes, it was you
[01:29] <grendal_prime> ya i do remember that conversation now...that was this month?
[01:29] <grendal_prime> wow..ok i have not read all of it...
[01:29] <rww> It was less than a week ago.
[01:30] <grendal_prime> really?
[01:30] <rww> That is what 2014/07/21 means, yes
[01:30] <rww> since it is currently 2014/07/27
[01:30] <grendal_prime> ok where do i get banned and why?
[01:30] <rww> and 27 - 21 = 6
[01:30] <rww> and 6 is less than 7, which is how long a week is
[01:30] <grendal_prime> ok
[01:30] <grendal_prime> look im sorry i totally forgot about the conversation...what is this about?
[01:31] <grendal_prime> i dont even see where i got banned?
[01:31] <rww> let's see... you have a history of being a jerk and called apple users apes, you were being offtopic instead of giving support, and you have a history of this
[01:31] <rww> bans don't show up in irclogs.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <rww> the jerk bit is from the ban comment, it's not my wording
[01:32] <grendal_prime> hold on im looking for the conversation
[01:34] <grendal_prime> oh ...ok
[01:35] <grendal_prime> i dont know what to say...i though the people there where pretty thick skinned
[01:35] <grendal_prime> the still had questions...its to bad..i can give assistance with things like virtualization.
[01:35] <grendal_prime> have a good one
[01:36] <rww> Thanks, you too. If you're all sorted, please /part the chanel, thanks :)
[01:36] <grendal_prime> wait...are you doing some sort of clean up maint....like its slow there so you were looking up people that were connected to the server to see if there were anybody...i dont understand...why this is comming up now..i wasnt logging into ubunt.
[01:37] <rww> I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.
[01:37] <IdleOne> you must have tried to join #ubuntu and got forwarded here
[01:37] <rww> Your ban was set on the day you were last in #ubuntu (six days ago). You haven't been in there since then until now. That's why this is coming up now.
[01:37] <grendal_prime> oh,,, this client auto joined the channe.
[01:37] <rww> Ah.
[01:38] <grendal_prime> sorry i was totally confused.
[01:38] <grendal_prime> this poped up on my im cleint i was like..."what? the freenode cops found me!!"
[01:38] <grendal_prime> hehehe
[01:38] <rww> hehe
[01:38] <rww> yes, sorry, channel forwards are a bit confusing :)
[01:39] <grendal_prime> well thing is all these new clients...kinda lump it all togther and whatnot.
[01:39] <grendal_prime> and since the ubuntu channel didnt show up i didnt think i had even tried to join
[01:41] <grendal_prime> well anyway sorry if you are an apple user.  didnt mean to offend. Honestly most apple users (with the accpetioin of some of my field engins) will straight up tell  you..."ya i dont want to know anything about computers thats why i have apple"
[01:41] <grendal_prime> its the honest to god truth.
[01:41] <rww> I'm not an Apple user, and I suspect even ikonia isn't. It's more an example of a problematic attitude.
[01:41] <grendal_prime> oh ya and i do have that.
[01:41] <grendal_prime> im usally the boss.
[01:42] <grendal_prime> I dont typically check my opinions at the door.
[01:42] <grendal_prime> i find they seriously hamper progress
[01:42] <rww> opinions? yes, I find they hamper progress in #ubuntu too
[01:42] <rww> we prefer to stick to helpful facts as a result
[01:43] <grendal_prime> sorry what i ment was if i pussy foot around topics try to frame things so people feel better about making mistakes...it waists their time.
[01:43] <grendal_prime> this is more than a personal observation.
[01:44] <rww> oh?
[01:44] <grendal_prime> ya
[01:44] <grendal_prime> see i tend to give people reasons
[01:44] <grendal_prime> see you can ge answers like this...
[01:44] <grendal_prime> "try version 14.10"
[01:44] <grendal_prime> or..
[01:44] <grendal_prime> you can get answers like this...
[01:45] <grendal_prime> "ya all i know is i dont use that version for servers cause..well its not LTS and i run that same thing on my lts servers and that shit is solid"
[01:45] <grendal_prime> feel me
[01:45] <grendal_prime> ?
[01:46] <rww> unfortunately, we wouldn't really like either of those answers in #ubuntu. One recommends a pre-release, and one involves cursing (which isn't allowed in #ubuntu)
[01:46] <grendal_prime> and im talking like between you and me.
[01:47] <grendal_prime> right but you see how the second line ( !shit) at least gives some clearity as to why.  The 14.10 is an example that is past 14.04
[01:48] <grendal_prime> anyway...
[01:48] <rww> There's rather a large gap between providing explanatory reasoning to back up your support answers, and wandering about being offtopic.
[01:48] <grendal_prime> it wasnt supposed to be factual it was just an example.
[01:49] <grendal_prime> of how providing opinion and experince helps people get clarity.
[01:50] <rww> There's rather a large gap between providing explanatory opinion and experience to back up your support answers, and wandering about being offtopic
[01:50] <grendal_prime> the point of the ban is....so...i'm not allowed to give help? (no big deal apparently i was counter productive in the matter)
[01:51] <rww> The point of the ban is to keep you out of #ubuntu until you and a channel operator are on the same page (in the chanop's opinion) about appropriate conduct in #ubuntu. Since you're not allowed in there, you wouldn't be allowed to give help in there, no.
[01:52] <grendal_prime> and im supposed to feel bad about this?
[01:52] <rww> I don't think your emotional state is really relevant to the matter.
[01:52] <grendal_prime> im tring to remember why i was even in there to begin with....something to do with dual booting i think
[01:53] <grendal_prime> watevery.
[01:53] <grendal_prime> peace.
[01:53] <rww> toodles
[01:54] <rww> @mark #ubuntu-ops grendal_prime
[01:54] <rww> ikonia: ^^ fyi
[08:00] <ikonia> rww: appreciate the effort
[13:12] <MTecknology> I couldn't remember the right channel and most in here are ubuntu members. On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership, at the bottom, the linkedin piece got taken away. Used to use the @ubuntu.com email addy to verify, but linkedin took that away and every other option is just too much manual maintenance. Three people wasn't enough anymore.
[13:13] <MTecknology> I don't want to create an ubuntu one account just to edit the wiki, so I won't be removing that piece. Anyone else doing it would be great.
[14:43] <k1l> why are they taking that #defocus stuff to #ubuntu channels all the time?
[14:45] <DJones> Biggest channel to troll
[22:37] <DickvanDike> !ops