[04:17] <apachelogger> yofel: do you have a script to delete old uploads from the neon ppa? people are getting confused by the fact that the repo has packages for ancient releases
[04:21] <apachelogger> wgrant: groovy thanks. all builds back to normal speed it seems :)
[05:05] <Mirv> is someone looking at the karchive build failure? I'm just thinking about my Qt 5.3.2 landing, and currently it also has unfilled dependencies because of that.
[05:23] <apachelogger> Mirv: retried all of them, that should fix it
[05:30] <Mirv> apachelogger: thanks! that should unblock something like kdoctools -> kio -> frameworkintegration/plasma-framework
[05:53] <yofel> apachelogger: klearppa from kubuntu-dev-tools does mass deleting of packages
[05:54] <apachelogger> I am too scared to run that :P
[06:27] <Mirv> apachelogger: same problem with kjs... I'm restarting those builds
[06:28] <Mirv> I guess missing strict enough build deps in both
[06:28] <apachelogger> Mirv: probably all of frameworks
[06:51] <bukai> Hi, I need a twitter widget for the https://twitter.com/kubuntu . Can anyone help me out with the same ?
[07:02] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[07:34] <MangaKaDenza> hi, I'm on Trusty, and was subscribed to neon/kf5, but for some reason that ppa gives me an "Index not found" error, has it been removed?
[07:37] <apachelogger> upgrade to 14.10 and use ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable instead
[07:38] <MangaKaDenza> will that keep all the Plasma 5 and KDE Applications 5 in /opt?
[07:39] <MangaKaDenza> because, while it is somewhat stable, I prefer SC 4 for my main DE
[07:39] <apachelogger> no
[07:40] <MangaKaDenza> :c
[07:40] <MangaKaDenza> so it's either fully go 5 or stay at 4 until it stablizes for me?
[07:42] <apachelogger> you could always install 5 in a VM and use that
[07:42] <apachelogger> or well, you know, install 14.10 next to 14.10
[07:42] <apachelogger> *next to 14.04
[07:43] <MangaKaDenza> erm... why was the Project Neon KF5 repo removed in the first place?
[07:43] <apachelogger> becuase we are not maintaing it anymore
[07:44] <MangaKaDenza> ah
[07:44] <MangaKaDenza> :c
[09:23] <Mirv> ok I've gotten also kdoctools building which should unblock my Qt PPA rebuilds afterwards :)
[09:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <bukai> lordievader: Can you please tell me who maintains the twitter account for kubuntu?
[09:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell probably
[09:59] <lordievader> ^
[10:00] <lordievader> There might be others with the ability to twit though.
[10:01] <bukai> shadeslayer, Riddel is not online now I guess, anyone else has the access?
[10:01] <shadeslayer> Not really
[10:06] <apachelogger> lordievader called Riddell a twit and the internet saw it :O
[10:06] <lordievader> O.O
[10:07] <lordievader> Now you did too :P
[10:07] <bukai> :)
[10:17] <Mirv> Riddell: so FYI I'm fixing several of "package ECM too low version" kind of errors by kicking rebuilds.
[10:17] <Mirv> it turned out I need kio too, which needs attica, which has failed to build... kicking again
[10:18] <Mirv> although now I start to think Qt 5.3.2 would be not today, maybe tomorrow. I still need some acks for the -gles twin packages.
[10:35] <valorie> apachelogger: I'm fixing the community page, and I'm wondering if we still should point people to files.kde.org ?
[10:35] <valorie> and if so, which one, since the linked image is i386
[10:36] <apachelogger> files.kde presently only has i386 images
[10:36] <apachelogger> valorie: files.kde makes more sense from a git-testing pov
[10:36] <valorie> ok
[10:36] <apachelogger> from an I just want plasma5 we probably should point to the tech preview iso
[10:36] <valorie> I'll leave that bit then
[10:37] <valorie> no ppa/next ?
[10:37] <valorie> that is the current advice there
[10:37] <apachelogger> same thing
[10:37] <valorie> ok
[10:37] <valorie> excellent then
[10:38] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu - please see if this is correct
[10:39] <apachelogger> looks good
[10:40] <valorie> excellent
[10:42]  * valorie goes to bed
[11:33] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ping
[11:36] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: pong
[11:41] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: can I help you?
[11:43] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: I have almost finished the design for the index page of test.kubuntu.co.uk, I wanted to add twitter live feed to the page
[11:44] <ovidiu-florin> great
[11:44] <bukai> but for that i need access to the twitter page or i need someone to create a widget
[11:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: hass acces to the Twitter parge AFAIK
[11:46] <bukai> ok, btw should i include 2 widget in the site? one for posting to @kubuntu and the other for #kubuntu or just 1?
[11:46] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ^
[11:52] <lordievader> bukai: Err, don't you just need a username for such a widget?
[11:53] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: agregate them
[11:53] <bukai> lordievader:  yes and for that i need Riddell
[11:53] <ovidiu-florin> to get the username?
[11:53] <lordievader> bukai: It's public info..
[11:53] <ovidiu-florin> you don't need access to the account in oorder to make a live feed
[11:54] <lordievader> bukai: https://twitter.com/kubuntu Should have everything you need.
[11:54] <bukai> no we need to login as they no more access data using restful api
[11:54] <bukai> lordievader: no I tried.
[11:55] <bukai> lordievader: And you get the code too as you create the widget.
[11:57] <lordievader> bukai: Here you go: http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/kubu-twit.html
[12:02] <bukai> lordievader: using this you can post to kubuntu
[12:02] <lordievader> It was just an example...
[12:04] <bukai> ok, I will try to get the #kubuntu posts by the users, thanks.
[12:05] <lordievader> Hmm, the widget options don't allow disableing the reply to thing.
[12:43] <Riddell> morning
[12:44] <Riddell> hi bukai
[12:54] <bukai> Hi, Riddell I am almost done with the dessign of the first page
[12:54] <Riddell> bukai: fabulous!
[12:55] <bukai> I had a few doublts about the layout of the tweets
[13:20] <Riddell> bukai: do you need the twitter account details?
[13:25] <bukai> No that I managed without it, Give me 5 mins i will show you the problem.
[13:25] <bukai> Riddell: ^
[13:27] <Riddell> k
[13:30] <sgclark> morning
[13:33] <Riddell> hola sgclark
[13:39] <bukai> Riddell: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=312e4jl&s=8#.VGC_d_mUfXo is it looking to clumsy? Is there any better way I can out it and I do not know how to create a similar thing for fb so what do i put in the todo space?
[13:39] <bukai> *put it not out it :P
[13:44] <Riddell> bukai: looks good
[13:46] <bukai> but what do I put in the last place?
[13:47] <Riddell> bukai: you can make a facebook one, you need to setup an application thingy
[13:47] <Riddell> https://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/activity
[13:47] <Riddell> that's it I think
[13:48] <bukai> let me check it out , thanks
[13:51] <Riddell> bukai: I just made you a page admin of the facebook kubuntu page
[13:51] <Riddell> I suspect you'll need that
[13:55] <bukai> Riddell: I was about to ask you for the same :)
[13:58]  * bukai leaves for dinner
[14:05] <Riddell> thanks Mirv, we have a retry script that I've just run now to give them all another shot
[14:11] <mhall119> sgclark: can we move http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22363/community-1411-showoff-kubuntu-plasma-/ to the Users track?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: one of my fellow orchrestra players ( idk the word for `people who you play the orchrestra with`) uses Kubuntu
[14:12] <shadeslayer> *in the orchrestra
[14:12] <mhall119> co-orchestrators?
[14:12] <Riddell> "musicians"?
[14:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: he thinks it's awesome
[14:12] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: excellent :)
[14:12] <shadeslayer> I won't call them musicians tbh :P
[14:12] <shadeslayer> but ok :P
[14:18] <Mirv> Riddell: thanks. hopefully Qt 5.3.2 then tomorrow, after I get some other acks too.
[14:27] <Riddell> Mirv: ooh nice
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:41] <soee> Riddell: ping
[14:42] <Riddell> hi soee
[14:44] <soee> Riddell: small suggestion form mu side, i think it would be better to add some description to links posted on twitter, so for example not only "wire.kubuntu.org/?p=198 " that tells nothing but Something like "Kubuntu Polo Shirts are Shipping! wire.kubuntu.org/?p=198 "
[14:46] <Riddell> mm yes
[14:46] <Riddell> it's because I use hootsuite which shows he preview but of course that won't go through to twitter
[15:05] <Mirv> Riddell: ok if you can have me a present for tomorrow morning, please check through the dependency chains so far that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kio/5.4.0-0ubuntu1 builds :)
[15:06] <Mirv> then I could probably do the required frameworkintegration/plasma-framework rebuilds for the Qt landing
[15:07] <Mirv> and of course everyone can join the fun, or just run your magic script every now and then.
[15:21] <Riddell> Mirv: I'll try :)
[15:23] <bukai> Riddell: Hi, to create an app i need to give a url should I give kubuntu,org for now or test.kununtu?
[15:24] <Riddell> bukai: I guess test.kubuntu for now
[15:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: oxygen-qt4 fixed in vivid
[15:53] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't suppose you still have the arm machines available for use?
[15:53] <ScottK> Not that will work with vivid.
[15:54] <Riddell> ScottK: not even a chroot?
[15:54] <ScottK> If you can convince infinity to provide a glibc that will work with the 2.6.23 (or whatever it is) I have, then it might be doable.
[15:54] <ScottK> No, because the chroot still uses the host kernel and it's too old for our glibc.
[15:57] <Riddell> hmm, I'll have to work out how to use mine
[15:57] <Riddell> which is made harder by avahi not working, most annoying
[15:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: are you able to scan the local network and see if my arm box is alive?
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hmm
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I don't suppose you have the mac address written down somewhere
[16:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'm afraid not
[16:05] <shadeslayer> hm, not sure how to tell then
[16:05] <shadeslayer> I guess I can count the number of computers that are plugged in
[16:05] <Riddell> doesn't nmap have some clever way to know?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> yeah, -o
[16:06] <shadeslayer> tried that on a few IP's
[16:06] <Riddell> well don't worry, I'll come in later
[16:06] <Riddell> but it so annoys me that avahi doesn't work
[16:07] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:07] <shadeslayer> what's the name of the box?
[16:07] <Riddell> airm.local
[16:08] <shadeslayer> seems to be up
[16:09] <Riddell> oh you found the IP?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:09] <Riddell> what is it?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:09] <Riddell> ok great thanks, I'll come in later and try to get kwin to compile
[16:10] <shadeslayer> okie dokie
[16:17] <_Groo_> anyone taking a look at plasma-desktop? its broken in amd64 for quite some time
[16:17] <_Groo_> so is kscreen
[16:18] <_Groo_> kubuntu-ci
[16:19] <lordievader> _Groo_: Vivid? If so could you give me a link to the ppa?
[16:21] <_Groo_> lordievader: theres no kscreen for vivid? oO only utopic.. and the plasma-desktop is broken in utopic amd64
[16:21] <_Groo_> lordievader: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+packages
[16:24] <lordievader> _Groo_: No I was after the ppa. Last time I had it enabled apt didn't agree with launchpad. Was wondering if you used a different one.
[16:25] <lordievader> Time to try again, I suppose.
[16:29] <BluesKaj> supposedly we were going to see a plasma5 ppa for 15.04 today, or at least that's my understanding from conversations yesterday
[16:30] <_Groo_> BluesKaj: AFAIK its kubuntu-ci, its replacing neon daily i believe
[16:30] <lordievader> That's what I've heard.
[16:31] <_Groo_> but we need to find kscreen and plasma-desktop. i didnt did it myself because i dont have access to manage kubuntu-ci
[16:31] <_Groo_> plasma-desktop should build fine now, it was missing the other packages that borked last weel
[16:31] <_Groo_> week
[16:31] <_Groo_> kscreen i need to see the buildlog, might be a bug upstream
[16:32] <_Groo_> i dont know why the autobuild didnt kick for plasma-desktop, last build was from 2014-11-07
[16:34] <lordievader> Updates :) and lots of them.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> where's the metapckage ?
[16:45] <lordievader> Whoo, plasma5 on Vivid with Systemd :D
[16:48] <BluesKaj> no systemd here yet lordievader, 15.04 has enough problems :)
[16:49]  * lordievader hasn't seen any problems yet on 15.04.
[16:49] <lordievader> Granted, I haven't used it much.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> looking at plasma 5 hoping it will restore network manager panel widget ...using the the gnome plasma-nm atm so i can connect the vpn service
[16:52] <BluesKaj> system settings on 15.04 is suddenly mucked up too
[16:53] <BluesKaj> odd that I haven't seen any comments about it on ubuntu+1
[17:02] <bukai> Riddell: Hi
[17:05] <Riddell> hi bukai
[17:12] <bukai> Riddell: I am sending you the code, can you please see if the design is correct? Btw do not worry about the code or security I will take care of it once I am done with the design.
[17:18] <Riddell> bukai: it would be better if you set it up on a web server somewhere so everyone can see
[17:37] <bukai> Riddell: I do not have access to any server
[17:40] <Riddell> bukai: you have access to that kubuntu server
[18:30] <BluesKaj> soee, are your system settings and network manager working fine on 15.04?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> lordievader, how about your 15.04 ?
[18:40] <lordievader> Blegh X froze, let me login, I'll check.
[18:40] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Systemsettings works fine in Plasma5.
[18:40] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Network manager seems to work too, for as far as I can tell.
[18:41] <lordievader> Whoo, custom shotcuts can be added :D Awesome, great work devels :D
[18:41] <BluesKaj> lordievader, ok , what about plasma 4 , was it ok on that as well ?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> i'm talking about kubunty 15.04
[18:42] <lordievader> Err no idea, didn't check before I updated.
[18:44] <lordievader> :( plasma5 doesn't allow me to set a slideshow as wallpaper.
[18:49] <_Groo_> lordievader: yeah not there yet
[18:50] <lordievader> _Groo_: I see, should I file a bug?
[18:50] <_Groo_> lordievader: its not a bug, i dont think they ported the code yet
[18:51] <_Groo_> lordievader: maybe you should check the milestone page before opening a bug? i dont know if they are planning that for 5.2 or 5.3
[18:51] <lordievader> Ain't it strange though to have the option there but not the code?
[18:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: master, do you know why kscreen and plasma-desktop arent being daily built? did they slipped from the building script?
[18:52]  * BluesKaj is t still looking for plasma 5 iso or upgrade for 15.04
[18:52] <_Groo_> lordievader: oh wait
[18:52] <_Groo_> its there indeed, let me test
[18:52] <_Groo_> did you add a folder?
[18:53] <_Groo_> it works
[18:53] <_Groo_> add a folder
[18:53] <_Groo_> go to /usr/share/wallpapers
[18:53] <_Groo_> byt default it wont allow you to add a folder
[18:54] <lordievader> _Groo_: That's the problem, I cant ;) It throws an "URL cannot be listed\n file:///" error. And then shows a file browser with my mounts but with an empty directory listing.
[18:54] <_Groo_> just leave it at usr/share/wallpapers and add a * to the file box
[18:54] <_Groo_> should work then
[18:54] <_Groo_> its working for me
[18:55] <lordievader> Here it is horribly broken. (Might be that I'm missing some package)
[18:55] <_Groo_> are you using the daily build?
[18:55] <lordievader> _Groo_: Do you know how I can launch that config window from the terminal?
[18:56] <lordievader> _Groo_: Vivid with a just added kubuntu-ci-unstable ppa.
[18:56] <_Groo_> im using the same but for utopic
[18:56] <_Groo_> so you open the wallpaper settings
[18:56] <_Groo_> wallpaper option
[18:56] <_Groo_> do you have a add folder below?
[18:57] <lordievader> _Groo_: Slideshow option. And no nothing is listed.
[18:57] <_Groo_> no add folder /download wallpapers buttons below?
[18:58] <lordievader> _Groo_: No that is there, but the add folder button throws errors.
[19:00] <Riddell> _Groo_: I've no idea I'm afraid
[19:01] <lordievader> _Groo_: I can send a screen shot if you want?
[19:01] <_Groo_> ok, you open the add folder
[19:01] <_Groo_> then you get a default qt5 file box right?
[19:01] <_Groo_> go to /usr/share/wallpapers
[19:01] <_Groo_> then add * to the file descriptor below
[19:01] <_Groo_> and hit ok
[19:01] <jose> sgclark: ping
[19:02] <sgclark> jose: pong
[19:02] <_Groo_> you should have a new entry in the settings wallpaper witht eh folder
[19:02] <_Groo_> should be enough
[19:02] <jose> sgclark: I was getting participant conflicts with the LoCo one, but appears to have automagically fixed
[19:02] <jose> sgclark: all your sessions should be set now
[19:02] <lordievader> _Groo_: I'll show you why I can't, hold on.
[19:02] <sgclark> jose: thanks!
[19:03] <jose> sgclark: no prob, and please let me know if there's anything else I can do for you
[19:03] <sgclark> jose: will do, thanks again
[19:04] <lordievader> _Groo_: http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/wall1.png and http://lordievader.no-ip.org/files/wall2.png
[19:05] <BluesKaj> someone should post the https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable in the topic
[19:06] <_Groo_> lordievader: go to root
[19:06] <_Groo_> enter the wallpapers folder
[19:07] <_Groo_> type * in the listing box
[19:07] <_Groo_> the one empty
[19:07] <_Groo_> above the buttons
[19:07] <_Groo_> strangely i dont see that open dialog, i have thr default qt5 one
[19:07] <_Groo_> go figure
[19:07] <lordievader> _Groo_: I can't, I can click any of my mounts, nothing changes.
[19:07] <_Groo_> click the mount, add * in the white box
[19:08] <lordievader> _Groo_: Doesn't do anything...
[19:08] <lordievader> Either I'm missing some file protocol package or this thing is broken.
[19:08] <lordievader> I'm guessing/hoping the first.
[19:09] <lordievader> _Groo_: Do you know how to launch the desktop properties window through the terminal?
[19:09] <_Groo_> i dont know then
[19:09] <_Groo_> it works here
[19:09] <_Groo_> on the other hand, i cant change to the breeze icons, although i have them installed, it used half of them and the oxygen ones
[19:09] <_Groo_> and you have them
[19:09] <_Groo_> so
[19:09] <lordievader> It will give me much info to debug this issue.
[19:09] <_Groo_> kreadconfig5 i think
[19:12] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[19:13] <bukai> Riddell: its in subho020m/Kubuntu
[19:14] <bukai> Riddell: please let me know if the basic structure is ok or not
[19:16]  * bukai goes to sleep , Good night :)
[19:16] <lordievader> Darn, desktop-settings opens in the already running plasmashell process...
[19:22] <lordievader> _Groo_: Guess I'm missing a package, kate complains with rather the same error, but there I get some output :)
[19:38] <lordievader> _Groo_: Fixed the problem, kio wasn't installed XD
[19:46] <ScottK> Riddell: win: New binary: kwin [armhf] (vivid-proposed/universe) [4:5.1.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:48] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 seems very much improved since my last try ..so far so good on 15.04, my regards to the devs on this ..nice job so far
[19:50] <lordievader> I was about to say so. For as far as I've used it, it works well \o/
[19:51] <BluesKaj> yup, quite nice IMO
[19:51] <soee> oh im happy you finally liked it BluesKaj :D
[19:51] <Riddell> ScottK: yep, please approve
[19:58] <ScottK> Everyone: Please don't override the binary-without-manpage lintian check.  It's a correct check.  The proper response is to write a man page and send it upstream.
[20:00] <soee> Riddell: how atm Plasma5 works woth 15.04 ? it is by default or some extra ppa is required ?
[20:02] <Riddell> soee: the packages are uploaded and compiling away, things may well break for the next few days until it's all in
[20:03] <lordievader> Interesting, Custom Shortcuts doesn't show imported shortcuts but Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> khotkeys do list them.
[20:03] <lordievader> Time to file a bug?
[20:05] <ScottK> Riddell: I rejected kmenuedit because the depends are backwards.  kmenuedit should depend on the -data package, not the reverse.
[20:05] <soee> Riddell: cool, thanks than ill wait a bit before upgrade
[20:05] <Riddell> thanks ScottK
[20:06] <ScottK> kwin armhf is in though.
[20:06] <Riddell> awooga
[20:07] <Riddell> kwin was blocking important plasma bits so that's nice
[20:07] <Riddell> although I see other arches are struggling with the frameworks update at the same time
[20:11] <ScottK> Riddell: Do we still need Messages.sh for DFSG reasons of providing the complete source/build system?
[20:12] <Riddell> ScottK: yes I suppose so, what's missing it?
[20:13] <ScottK> ksysguard
[20:13]  * ScottK will reject
[20:13] <Riddell> ScottK: hang on
[20:13] <Riddell> ScottK: it has gui/Messages.sh
[20:13]  * ScottK hangs on
[20:13] <Riddell> where do you think it's missing?
[20:14] <ScottK> Generally, I recall finding it in the top level directory.
[20:14] <ScottK> I didn't think to look there.
[20:16] <ScottK> It's also got the unfortunate override of binary-without-manpage.
[20:17] <ScottK> That should be removed, but I won't reject for it.
[20:18] <Riddell> Messages.sh can be anywhere indeed
[20:18] <ScottK> Also no-human-maintainers shouldn't be overridden.  It's a don't care for Ubuntu anyway.
[20:18] <ScottK> Aye.  Thanks for checking and pointing it out.
[20:19] <ScottK> Seems find otherwise.  Accepted.
[20:23] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma 5.1.1 uploaded, thanks!
[20:23] <sgclark> Riddell: woot
[20:24] <sgclark> ScottK: I think those overrides were done by apachelogger due to the CI system barfing on them
[20:25] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm off for the evening, if you're still around for a bit you can run http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-retry-builds every hour with --kf5 --force
[20:25] <Riddell> until all the frameworks get built
[20:25]  * Riddell out
[20:25] <sgclark> Riddell: sure
[20:31] <lordievader> Hehe, brute-force is the way to go ;)
[20:34] <soee> :)
[20:38] <ScottK> sgclark: O
[20:38] <ScottK> Oops
[20:39] <ScottK> sgclark: I'll see about getting no-human-maintainers added to the list of tests ignored in the Ubuntu profile.
[20:39] <sgclark> ScottK: ok
[20:39] <ScottK> The man page one needs man pages written.  They aren't that hard.
[20:40] <sgclark> ScottK: yep I know, it is a matter of time though
[21:41] <claydoh> For Utopic, does kubuntu-ci upgrade or run alongside as neon did?
[21:44] <sgclark> upgrades claydoh
[21:45] <claydoh> cool, thanks sgclark folks will have questions in the forum and ml, I am sure
[21:47] <sgclark> claydoh: err why? it really is not for public consumption
[21:47] <sgclark> claydoh: is it listyed somewhere or something?
[21:48] <sgclark> Riddell: sorry trying to run that script and nothing seems to be happening
[21:49] <claydoh> sgclark: no, but peole find things, and are already asking about neon and plasma 5 for 14.10, and ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable
[21:49] <sgclark> ugh
[21:49] <claydoh> is metioned https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages
[21:52] <claydoh> I figured I'd ask around before posting on the subject
[22:00] <ScottK> sgclark: Uploaded lintian with no-human-maintainers disabled for Ubuntu.
[22:02] <shadeslayer> sgclark: curious, who's asking for support when using CI packaging?
[22:06] <sgclark> shadeslayer: I am starting to see it in various social channels, I am only afraid that if the PPA gets out to everyone the problem questions will pile up. It really should not be used by anyone but those that know how to fix things when they break...
[22:06] <shadeslayer> right, just curious which social channels
[22:17] <sgclark> shadeslayer: bits I have seen in my personal channels, not out of hand atm but with it listed https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages it will grow to out of hand proportions...
[22:18] <shadeslayer> mhm
[22:19] <shadeslayer> could put it in #kubuntu
[22:19] <shadeslayer> the topic of #kubuntu that is
[22:22]  * shadeslayer goes back to reading more ruby code
[22:37] <Riddell> sgclark: you ran it with  --kf5 --force ?
[22:37] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah
[22:38] <sgclark> Riddell: no errors but nothing seemed to happen
[22:42] <Riddell> it'll output the name of the packages if something happens
[22:42] <Riddell> oh I know you probably need the list of packages in the same directory
[22:42] <sgclark> Riddell: that is what I thought, in which case nothing happened.
[22:42] <sgclark> ahh
[22:43] <sgclark> right, that make sense
[22:43] <_Groo_> can someone confirm that /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtconfig is missing from kubuntu-ci ppa?
[22:46] <sgclark> Riddell: sorted, it is running now
[22:46] <_Groo_> better yet, its there but when you run it
[22:46] <_Groo_> qtconfig: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtconfig': No such file or directory
[22:46] <_Groo_> ta dah
[22:55] <_Groo_> im using the theme tree: breeze, but the oxygen icons show up... thoughts?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: maybe because you don't have qtconfig installed?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> !find qt5/bin/qtconfig
[22:57] <shadeslayer> mmm
[22:58] <shadeslayer> yeah, maybe doesn't exist for Qt5?
[22:58] <shadeslayer> you might want to do : QT_SELECT=4 qtconfig
[23:04] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i believe it does exist
[23:04] <_Groo_> it might be missing from the pakcage?
[23:04] <shadeslayer> nope
[23:05] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: why do you think it exists
[23:05] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: also, can you confirm if you have breeze icons in systemsettings with kf5 from kubuntu-ci?
[23:05] <shadeslayer> I'm not running kubuntu-ci
[23:06] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: https://packages.debian.org/search?mode=path&suite=sid&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=qt5%2Fbin%2Fqtconfig
[23:06] <_Groo_> qtchooser: /usr/bin/qtconfig
[23:06] <shadeslayer> that doesn't matter
[23:06] <shadeslayer> it's a symlink
[23:06] <shadeslayer> to qtchooser
[23:06] <_Groo_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Out 27 06:33 /usr/bin/qtconfig -> qtchooser
[23:06] <shadeslayer> the entire Qt setup has changed with Qt4/Qt5
[23:06] <shadeslayer> yes
[23:06] <_Groo_> ok then
[23:06] <_Groo_> nice to know
[23:07] <shadeslayer> see man qtchooser
[23:07] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UrFGlkmk
[23:07] <_Groo_> it opens breeze
[23:07] <_Groo_> but it uses oxygen icons
[23:07] <_Groo_> all over the place
[23:07] <shadeslayer> show screenshot
[23:07] <_Groo_> but kde4 theme is using the correct breeze theme
[23:09] <_Groo_> http://picpaste.com/snapshot1.png
[23:10] <_Groo_> pitty the pastebin isnt ported to kf5 yet
[23:10] <_Groo_> it was so handy
[23:10] <ScottK> You should still be able to use it in a Plamsa 5 workspace, shouldn't you?
[23:11] <_Groo_> i doubt it, it was plasma4 plasmoid
[23:12] <_Groo_> plasmoid didnt migrate to 5 without porting AFAIK
[23:13] <_Groo_> any idea why kf5 isnt showing the breeze icons?
[23:13] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: what does Icons say?
[23:13] <_Groo_> its using breeze, i tried choosing dark and back to breeze, same thing
[23:14] <_Groo_> for all i know, settings already have all the breeze icons, so ... but the ones for dialogs are working
[23:14] <_Groo_> something got broken in kubuntu-ci perhaps
[23:14] <_Groo_> i cant find any relevant error runnning plasmashell
[23:15] <_Groo_> or removing .cache, .local, .config
[23:15] <_Groo_> and /tmp/kde-groo
[23:15] <_Groo_> still shows me a mix of oxygen, breeze
[23:15] <_Groo_> i understand the fallback is oxygen
[23:15] <_Groo_> but the theme is using it first, although breeze is selected
[23:17] <_Groo_> see this one http://picpaste.com/snapshot2.png
[23:18] <_Groo_> dolphin which is a kde4 app uses them
[23:18] <_Groo_> systemsettings which is pure kf5 doesnt
[23:18] <_Groo_> and the plasma launcher uses a mix of them both
[23:18]  * _Groo_ is confused
[23:28] <_Groo_> also, this is creating huge .xsessionerror files _xgeWireToEvent: Unknown extension 148, this should never happen. _xgeWireToEvent: Unknown extension 148, this should never happen.
[23:52] <ScottK> Would someone who has a complete checkout of kf5/plasma5 go through and sed out the no-human-maintainers lintian overrides now that it's disabled in Ubuntu.
[23:53] <sgclark> ScottK: sure I can do that here in a bit
[23:53] <ScottK> Thanks.
[23:55] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: BTW icons still work after upgrading to the unstable PPA
[23:55] <shadeslayer> maybe you want to knockout ~/.cache
[23:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: already did that multiple times
[23:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: so you dont have oxygen icons in gwenview and systemsettings?
[23:59] <_Groo_> can you pastebin usr/share/icons/breeze ?
[23:59] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8929431/


[01:30] <ApOgEE> good morning
[04:19] <thewrath> Hey all!
[04:21] <thewrath> Hey dyess0021 and kristian-aalborg
[04:22] <kristian-aalborg> morn
[04:22] <thewrath> do you guys know where one could purchase a cheap hub?
[04:25] <kristian-aalborg> I got a used router for almost nothing, it works fine
[04:26] <thewrath> i need it for snort
[08:49] <duanedesign> morning all
[10:15] <Dr0pB3ar> g'day. quick question for anyone that can help me out. I am trying to use swscanner and whenever I try and start a scan it pops up with "failed to read scan data" . I have tried a few different adapters and no luck
[10:17] <bioterror> xsane?
[10:19] <Dr0pB3ar> what's that?
[10:20] <bioterror> apt-cache show xsane
[10:21] <Dr0pB3ar> swscanner is a wifi scanner not an image scanner
[10:22] <Dr0pB3ar> I was a bit confused for a sec there
[10:22] <bioterror> :G
[10:38] <beachbuddah> hi all - is there any way to switch from10.10 UNR to the desktop version?  This on a netbook without a CD-ROM
[14:01] <aztek> how to play video in backtrack?
[14:06] <duanedesign> hello aztek
[14:07] <aztek> hello duadesign
[14:07] <aztek> *duanedesign
[14:08] <duanedesign> aztek: have you installed backtrack or are you running it on a LiveCD?
[14:09] <aztek> i have install it in my laptop
[14:11] <aztek> but no sound and i can't play video on it
[14:12] <duanedesign> aztek: which version is it?
[14:12] <aztek> 4 r 1
[14:16] <duanedesign> aztek: I wouls install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:16] <duanedesign> would*
[14:17] <aztek> wher i can download it?
[14:18] <duanedesign> aztek: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:19] <duanedesign> that command in a terminal should do it.
[14:20] <duanedesign> aztek: for video you can install mplayer and the GUI for it SMplayer.
[14:20] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get install mplayer smplayer
[14:21] <aztek> am at home now
[14:21] <aztek> so, i just can use modem
[14:22] <aztek> i can't use modem in backtrack
[14:22] <aztek> i am using ubuntu now
[14:23] <aztek>  i will try it tomorro
[14:23] <duanedesign> looks like their are some meta packages that backtrack has
[14:23] <aztek> *tomorrow
[14:24] <aztek> for setting modem?
[14:24] <duanedesign> backtrackworld
and
backtrackdesktop.

[14:24] <duanedesign> backtrackworld
 contains
 all
 the
 BackTrack
 meta
 packages,
 while
 backtrack
[14:24] <duanedesign> desktop
 contains
 backtrackworld,
 backtracknetworking
 and
 backtrack
[14:24] <duanedesign> multimedia.
 The
 latter
 two
 meta
 packages
 are
 select
 applications
 imported
 from

[14:24] <duanedesign> Ubuntu
repositories.

[14:25] <duanedesign> I imaging those have hyphens and not spaces
[14:26] <duanedesign> so  backtracknetworking would probably be  backtrack-networking
[14:27] <duanedesign> those are meta packages so they likely will download a lot of packages. Something to think about if you are on a modem
[14:29] <aztek> my friend suggested to install sakis, but i don't know how to installl it
[14:55] <aztek> i wanna off
[14:55] <aztek> thank you duanedesign for your help
[14:56] <aztek> see u soon
[15:30] <rokyronnie> Hello there
[15:30] <Abhijit> hi
[15:31] <MrChrisDruif> Hai
[15:31] <rokyronnie> I've a question, is there a way to control my CPU FAN speed in Ubuntu? ( in windows I used to use speed fan to reduce the speed down to 50% )
[15:33] <Abhijit> !fan
[15:33] <Abhijit> ??
[15:33] <Abhijit> !ping
[15:34] <Abhijit> bot is dead
[15:34] <rokyronnie> my fan speed, cooler, isn't FAN the correct word for that?
[15:35] <charlie-tca> rokyronnie: yes, that is the correct word.
[15:36] <Abhijit> rokyronnie, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480
[15:36] <rokyronnie> so.. there's nothing with graphical interface?
[15:37] <Abhijit> nope
[15:37] <Abhijit> atleast I dont know
[15:58] <rokyronnie> I tried now with Thinkfan but I can't figure out with it, can someone help me?
[15:58] <Abhijit> what is thinkfan?
[15:58] <holstein> rokyronnie: is it too loud?
[15:59] <rokyronnie> very very loud
[15:59] <holstein> did you look at the hardware?
[15:59] <rokyronnie> yes.... but I can't  do anything  to it
[15:59] <holstein> is there a bunch of crap in the heat sink?
[16:00] <holstein> you can get some compressed air
[16:00] <holstein> and blow the junk out
[16:00] <rokyronnie> I clean it for many times
[16:00] <holstein> i mean, the fan is keeping the CPU cool
[16:00] <holstein> as an audio recording guy
[16:01] <holstein> i have found computers too loud in the past
[16:01] <holstein> i used to keep the tower over in a closet
[16:01] <holstein> and get really long cables
[16:01] <rokyronnie> it's not a new model, it's a Sempron 3200+
[16:01] <holstein> that worked well
[16:01] <rokyronnie> :))
[16:01] <holstein> rokyronnie: a new fan is cheap
[16:02] <holstein> fans are a couple bucks
[16:02] <rokyronnie> depends of what country are you spoken about
[16:03] <holstein> nah
[16:03] <holstein> theres used shops everywhere
[16:03] <holstein> charity shops
[16:03] <holstein> and amazon.com :)
[16:03] <rokyronnie> if I want a better one, here it's like 30-40e which means a lot
[16:04] <holstein> well, im sure you can sort it out
[16:04] <holstein> i would suggest not telling the fan to run slower
[16:04] <holstein> its running fast for a reason
[16:04] <holstein> either the fan is going bad
[16:04] <holstein> and not cooling well
[16:04] <rokyronnie> in windows is running down to 50% from a long time
[16:04] <rokyronnie> and there were no problems
[16:04] <holstein> rokyronnie: xp?
[16:04] <holstein> xp is 10 years old
[16:05] <holstein> ubuntu is quite a bit more modern than xp
[16:05] <rokyronnie> yeah, which when I came back home from faculty, it was broken, why? "only god knows"
[16:05] <holstein> and linux is typically not as capable of controlling those devices
[16:05] <rokyronnie> could not find windws:\... \system43\config
[16:05] <rokyronnie> I can't suffer it anymore
[16:05] <holstein> rokyronnie: it?
[16:06] <holstein> you mean your windows install was broken?
[16:06] <rokyronnie> sorry if my english is not so good and if I do mistakes, but I am pretty tired
[16:06] <rokyronnie> oh no
[16:06] <holstein> rokyronnie: i have an HP mininote
[16:06] <rokyronnie> just... I turned my PC on, and that message appeared when I tried to boot to windows
[16:06] <holstein> lots of VIA hardware
[16:07] <holstein> same deal
[16:07] <holstein> when under xp
[16:07] <holstein> fairly quiet
[16:07] <holstein> but the graphics driver in linux seems to make it run hotter
[16:07] <holstein> and its small anyways
[16:07] <holstein> prone to running hot
[16:07] <aveilleux> Linux doesn't handle fan speed as well as Windows
[16:08] <rokyronnie> my fan speed is always on 100%
[16:08] <aveilleux> The speed control modules are pretty buggy, and they fallback to running at full blast regardless of the heaat
[16:08] <rokyronnie> it doesn't have that future
[16:09] <holstein> rokyronnie: maybe you can google the hardware you have
[16:09] <holstein> and find better support
[16:09] <holstein> maybe a kernel that does a better job
[16:10] <holstein> i have had luck cleaning the machine though
[16:10] <holstein> and getting a quieter system
[16:10] <holstein> in win/lin
[18:33] <javatexan> how do I remove all my saved passwords from seahorse without making my machine useless?  I only want to clear out all network resources, printing passwords, websites and such....not any system level stuff....does it keep systemlevel stuff?
[20:00] <Aman1st> Hi Guys, can anyone help me in setting up VPN on Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:04] <Omsniffiscent> Is there a way to put a clock on my screen after my screen locks out?
[20:04] <Aman1st> I did setup the VPN using the connection manager in Ubuntu. But, when I try and connect it says "Connection failed" any advise?
[20:04] <Omsniffiscent> I'd have no idea, sorry.
[20:05] <Aman1st> The say VPN works just fine on windows and MAC!
[20:06] <Aman1st> say = same
[20:06] <Aman1st> Omsniffiscent, thanks ;)
[20:07] <Omsniffiscent> Honestly I don't even know what a VPN is :)
[20:07] <Omsniffiscent> Internetz?
[20:08] <Omsniffiscent> Oh I remember Virtualized Private Network?
[20:11] <Omsniffiscent> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/15715/
[20:11] <Omsniffiscent> I guess there's no way. :(
[20:12] <Omsniffiscent> Though, that was in 2008
[20:13] <holstein> Aman1st: via  ssh?
[20:13] <Omsniffiscent> But all of the other hits are how to change the timer for the lockout screen.
[20:13] <Aman1st> it's just a standard PPTP setup
[20:13] <holstein> you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient ?
[20:14] <Aman1st> Yes I did read that.
[20:14] <Aman1st> Didn't help :(
[20:14] <holstein> yeah?
[20:14] <holstein> what were the error messages?
[20:15] <Aman1st> Just says connection failed. No error message!
[20:15] <holstein> what says?
[20:16] <holstein> did you try the pptp-linux package?
[20:16] <Aman1st> holstein, stand by... I'm going to set it up again and give you the exact message.
[20:16] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: i would look at screensavers
[20:16] <holstein> with time
[20:16] <Aman1st> will try that too
[20:16] <holstein> Aman1st: im about to run out
[20:16] <Aman1st> k
[20:16] <holstein> but that will be helpful for someone
[20:17] <holstein> IF you can run an app from the terminal too
[20:17] <Aman1st> thanks mate
[20:17] <holstein> that will give you more output usually
[20:17] <holstein> helpful trouble-shooting output
[20:17] <holstein> *hopefully :)
[20:17] <Aman1st> ;)
[20:17] <Omsniffiscent> But my monitor turns completely off when my screensaver comes on. I guess that's my only option, though.
[20:18] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1028362
[20:18] <holstein> its a little old
[20:18] <Omsniffiscent> If I move my mouse to turn my monitor back on it will stop the screensaver lol
[20:18] <holstein> but, i think thats the angle you should take
[20:18] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: there are settings
[20:18] <holstein> sometimes they are fiddly
[20:18] <holstein> but, you should be able to have the screensaver without the screen blanking
[20:18] <holstein> Omsniffiscent: are you using gnome?
[20:19] <Omsniffiscent> Yes.
[20:19] <holstein> cool
[20:19] <Omsniffiscent> I <3 gnome
[20:19] <holstein> i find since that the default
[20:19] <holstein> or was*
[20:19] <Omsniffiscent> heh
[20:19] <holstein> thats usually the best case for things to work
[20:19] <holstein> good luck folks
[20:19] <Omsniffiscent> I tried KDE and it was just completely foreign. Pretty. But it didn't stay up very long.
[20:19]  * holstein gotta run
[20:19] <Omsniffiscent> I'm off too. Later
[23:11] <Juest> ok, how do i change root password?
[23:12] <holstein> Juest: we dont really have root
[23:12] <holstein> unless you have changed the default setup
[23:13] <holstein> you use sudo
[23:13] <holstein> and use your user pass
[23:13] <holstein> in a terminal
[23:13] <holstein> you can run sudo -s
[23:13] <holstein> and have a root shell
[23:13] <Juest> yes, i want to login with root
[23:14] <Juest> not root shell
[23:14] <holstein> you can run GUI apps with gksudo
[23:14] <Juest> and ttys are not there anymore
[23:14] <Juest> i just see black screen
[23:14] <holstein> Juest: is something broken?
[23:14] <holstein> you really shouldnt need to enable a traditional root account
[23:15] <Juest> hmmm, is a partial installation, using update manager to fill it
[23:15] <holstein> sudo apt-get install
[23:15] <Juest> i just want to login as uid0 (root)
[23:15] <holstein> right
[23:15] <holstein> you have to really go against the grain to facilitate that
[23:16] <holstein> and i suggest not doing it
[23:16] <holstein> and cant really imagine a scenario where you would have to
[23:16] <Juest> just like i have done in my older ex-mandrake
[23:16] <holstein> its do-able
[23:16] <Juest> then?
[23:16] <holstein> you want me to google it for you?
[23:16] <Juest> how do i do it
[23:16] <Juest> yes, please
[23:16] <MrChrisDruif> lmgtfy.com ;)
[23:17] <Juest> lol noob
[23:17] <holstein> http://blog.sudobits.com/2010/10/19/how-to-login-as-root-in-ubuntu-10-10/
[23:17] <Juest> holstein, ok, i just want the command/place to change root pw
[23:17] <holstein> skimming that article, it looks right
[23:18] <holstein> Juest: by default there is no root password
[23:18] <holstein> its not the way it works
[23:18] <holstein> you sudo
[23:18] <Juest> yes, but the system asks for pw -.-
[23:18] <holstein> and bascially elevate the privs of the normal user
[23:18] <holstein> right
[23:18] <holstein> but there isnt one
[23:18] <holstein> because you havent enabled the root user
[23:18] <Juest> yeah, but i rather use root user instead of su
[23:18] <holstein> i mean, you put in the user butt
[23:18] <holstein> and it'll ask you for a password
[23:19] <holstein> Juest: right
[23:19] <holstein> see that link
[23:19] <holstein> and enable the account if you wish
[23:19] <holstein> and you can log in as root :)
[23:19] <holstein> good luck, i gotta run
[23:19] <MrChrisDruif> Juest: Your calling me a n00b? :P
[23:19] <Juest> oh, got it
[23:19] <Juest> lol, because of lmgtfy :P
[23:19] <Juest> i hate that sh********
[23:40] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: ping
[23:41] <MrChrisDruif> pong
[23:44] <kevin6889> MrChrisDruif: ping
[23:44] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha kevin6889
[23:47] <kevin6889> natty wouldn't boot MrChrisDruif from a live usb
[23:48] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm, not nice
[23:48] <kevin6889> what should i do?
[23:48]  * kevin6889 throws the problem at MrChrisDruif
[23:48] <MrChrisDruif> Ow....your seidos :P
[23:48] <seidos> Ow, or Oh?
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> Did you check md5sum?
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> seidos: Same with me ;)
[23:49] <seidos> it was a torrent, i'm sure that's not the problem
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> Never be sure
[23:49] <seidos> hey MrChrisDruif do you know how to create a live usb using dd?
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> Always check
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> Using dd?
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> I've made live usb with unetbootin before
[23:49] <seidos> if i check and the md5sum matches, will you pay me $1 for my time?
[23:50] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm, no :P
[23:50] <seidos> i heard it's possible with dd, at least with fedora
[23:50] <seidos> but i couldn't get fedora to boot either
[23:50] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe USB is broken?
[23:50] <seidos> dd if=F12-Live-i686.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M
[23:50] <seidos> nah, it's worked before
[23:50] <seidos> it's some software thing, i'm sure of it
[23:50] <yofel> which image? beta1? try the beta2 candidate images, at least there wasn't a failed to boot bug filed for them yet http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/
[23:50] <seidos> i can read it too
[23:53] <seidos> yofel: yeah, beta1.  i'll see about getting beta2.  i didn't see it under releases.ubuntu.com, but beta1 was there, so that's what i grabbed
[23:53] <yofel> yep, beta2 is due tomorrow, so you can help testing the isos if beta1 doesn't work ;)
[23:53] <Juest> seidos: #ubuntu+1
[23:54] <seidos> Juest: but i'm a beginner ;)
[23:54] <Juest> lol
[23:54] <Juest> idk then
[23:55] <Juest> ask there where's beginner channel for beta,etc
[23:55] <seidos> Juest: just messing with you, it's a good idea.
[23:55] <Juest> lol
[23:55] <Juest> :)
[23:57] <seidos> ah, so beta2 is out tomorrow, all right


[01:55] <mup> PR snapd#10675 opened: tests: migrate tests that are only executed on xenial to bionic <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10675>
[03:10] <mup> PR snapd#10676 opened: cmd/snap-update-ns/change.go: sort needed, desired and not reused mount entries <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10676>
[05:27] <mardy> 'morning!
[05:28] <mardy> question of the day: what is the snappy-hub? https://code.launchpad.net/~alexmurray/snappy-hub/update-for-snapd-2.51.6/+merge/407651
[05:28] <mardy> is it the base-set of apparmor templates, starting from which snapd composes the final profiles?
[05:32] <mborzecki> morning
[05:34] <mborzecki> mardy: look like amurray's private of snappy-debug snap
[05:34] <mborzecki> private copy ofc
[05:34] <mborzecki> mardy: fwiw the base template which snapd uses is right here: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/interfaces/apparmor/template.go
[05:42] <mardy> mborzecki: good morning! Thanks, so I guess it's not for us to review?
[05:44] <mborzecki> mardy: no, i don't think so, i've never reviewed anythign there, but you can always ask amurray about snappy-debug
[06:18] <zyga> good morning :)
[06:18] <zyga> hello mvo
[06:19] <mborzecki> zyga: hey
[06:19] <mvo> hey zyga and mborzecki
[06:19] <zyga> mvo, it's gotten cold here
[06:20] <zyga> when I was leaving the house today it was just 9C outside
[06:20] <zyga> brr
[06:21] <pstolowski> morning
[06:21] <zyga> hey pawel!
[06:21] <mborzecki> mvo: pstolowski and hey
[06:21] <mborzecki> yeah, it's cold here too, 10C at most
[06:21] <mborzecki> and it's not even september :/
[06:22] <mardy> hi zyga, mvo, pstolowski :-)
[06:22] <zyga> hey mardy
[06:22] <mardy> mborzecki: ah! it's 11C here, so we win today :-)
[06:34] <mvo> good morning pstolowski and mardy
[06:34] <mvo> zyga: yeah, same here (but I don't think 9C just yet), feels like the summer is on the way out
[06:35] <zyga> indeed :/
[06:51] <mup> PR snapd#10644 closed: o/snapstate: don't hold some snaps if not all snaps can be held by the given gating snap <Needs Samuele review> <Refresh control> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10644>
[06:51] <mup> PR snapd#10673 closed: .github/workflows/test.yaml: fix logic <Simple 😃> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10673>
[06:56] <mup> PR snapd#10647 closed: o/snapstate: fail remove with invalid snap names <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10647>
[06:56] <mup> PR snapd#10669 closed: o/hookstate/ctlcmd: correct err message if missing root <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10669>
[07:15] <mvo> mardy: 10606 is ready it seems, just needs a master merge to resolve a conflict and (maaaaaybe) consider my diff in there but that would be one more merged PR :)
[07:16] <mup> PR snapd#10107 closed: packaging: stop snapd.{socket,service} before purging data <Precious Logs> <Test Robustness> <Created by mvo5> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10107>
[07:19] <mardy> mvo: I'll see if I can apply your suggestion without major changes (but I can't foresee any)
[07:21] <mvo> mardy: I tested locally and it seems unit tests are still happy
[07:22] <mvo> mardy: but I only looked very briefly :)
[07:29] <mardy> mvo: thanks, I applied it and also rebased+squashed the branch on top of the latest master, since it already got a few approvals
[07:31] <mardy> it's "funny", that on github you can make any changes to your branch, and you do not lose the approvals. On Gitlab one generally loses them (though it can also be configured to retain them)
[07:31] <mup> PR snapd#10677 opened: snapstate: fix misleading `assumes` error message <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10677>
[07:46] <mup> PR snapd#10671 closed: o/assertstate,snapstate: refresh validation set assertions with snap declarations <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <Closed by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10671>
[08:31] <mup> PR snapd#10678 opened: o/snapstate: enforce validation sets assertions when removing snaps <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10678>
[08:33] <pstolowski> mardy: yes it's a bit controversial
[08:33] <pstolowski> we should use common sense and if changes are not trivial, re-request reviews for already approved
[08:38] <mborzecki> mvo: quick question about remodel since pedronis isn't around yet and maybe you remember what the agreement was, we update the tracking channel of kernel and gadget snaps, do you think the tracking channel of application snaps should be updated too?
[08:42] <mvo> mborzecki: I think so, if it has changed we should probably do the same
[08:43] <mborzecki> mvo: well, i extended the uc20 managers test that i have and we're not updating it ;)
[08:43] <mborzecki> i don't think that we do it for 18 remodels either
[08:44] <mborzecki> mvo: fwiw, we only add install tasks, but otoh it wasn't really possible to specify tracking channel in 18 remodels
[08:44] <mvo> mborzecki: but I also have a question for you: in https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10634 I made some progress and debian/ubuntu seems to be in reasonable shape with go-modules. but the rpm is giving me a bit of trouble, it looks when I run "spread fedora-34-64:tests/main/listing" locally that it still tries to GO111MODULES=off things even though in this branch there should be no GO111MODULE=off left. so it seems this is somehow implicit from the rpm macros?
[08:44] <mup> PR #10634: many: move to go modules gradually  <⛔ Blocked> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10634>
[08:44] <mvo> mborzecki: woah, thanks for finding this
[08:45] <mvo> mborzecki: I guess that is something we need to fix eventually
[08:45] <mvo> mborzecki: :/
[08:45] <mborzecki> mvo: it may be the case that the go rpm packaging sets that, let me check
[08:52] <mborzecki> mvo: go packaging in fedora sets that
[08:53] <mborzecki> mvo: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CKTWyCGD2W/
[08:58] <mvo> mborzecki: hm, so it looks like this needs some deeper dive :/
[08:58] <mvo> mborzecki: thanks, good to know where to look
[09:02] <mborzecki> mvo: it's part of the distro marcos https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hdKZZZvGYs/
[09:03] <mborzecki> so unless you redefine the marco it's not possible to drop it?
[09:05] <mborzecki> still, do we need to drop that?
[09:06] <zyga> hey miguelpires
[09:08] <miguelpires> Hi =)
[09:23] <mborzecki> mvo: any clue who can fix/update the docs index while degville is away? some links are bad eg. https://snapcraft.io/docs/snapcraft-extensions
[09:24] <pstolowski> miguelpires: hi, if you could address the last remaining comment from https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10584 that would be great, would love to see it landed today
[09:24] <mup> PR #10584: o/assertstate: fix missing 'scheduled' header when auto refreshing assertions <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10584>
[09:26] <miguelpires> @psto
[09:26] <miguelpires> pstolowski pushing it now =)
[09:27] <pstolowski> miguelpires: awesome! thanks
[09:54] <degville> mborzecki / mvo: having a look at that issue now (I can spare some time).
[09:54] <mborzecki> degville: hey, no worries, you're on vac 😉 do you know who i can poke to take a look at this?
[09:55] <degville> mborzecki: first glance, and it looks like the webteam have swapped out the old  table of contents again.
[09:55] <degville> mborzecki: Fran on the webteam made the change.
[09:56] <degville> they're now using this as the source for all pages: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snap-documentation-pages/25750
[09:57] <mborzecki> degville: cool, i'll ping jkfran in the web channel
[09:59] <degville> mborzecki: thanks! worst case is he'll need to revert to the old style. It's very annoying they make these changes like without tests or letting us know.
[09:59] <pstolowski> miguelpires: +1, but I think there is a small vet problem
[10:00] <mborzecki> degville: yeah, thank you for looking into this 🙂
[10:02] <miguelpires> pstolowski Yeah, the static checks are failing but I can't reproduce it locally. Strange
[10:02] <degville> mborzecki: no problem, sorry you had to get involved. Thank you!
[10:03] <pstolowski> miguelpires: different go vet versions probably
[10:25] <zyga> hey degville :)
[10:25] <zyga> long time no see
[10:35] <mborzecki> pstolowski: can https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10243 be closed or do you plan to update the test?
[10:35] <mup> PR #10243: tests: failure of prereqs on content interface doesn't prevent install <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10243>
[10:37] <degville> zyga: hello!! yeah, it has been a while. Hope you're doing well.
[10:38] <zyga> :)
[10:38] <zyga> yeah, I'm fine
[10:38] <zyga> I miss sprints
[10:38] <zyga> and the people
[10:40] <degville> yeah. I think we all do, although we can hopefully get back to them next year. I really miss travelling too - stayed at home this year, which has been fun too, but I'm already looking forward to exploring further afield.
[10:42] <zyga> no Frankfurt in Sept?
[10:52] <pstolowski> mborzecki: no, it was unexpected discovery to me but works as designed, if you mean updating XXX comment then yes, i should update it. i think it makes sense to have this test
[10:53] <mborzecki> ok, sgtm
[10:53] <pstolowski> lemme do this right now
[10:58] <pstolowski> mborzecki: updated PR description as well
[10:58] <mborzecki> anyone using `hub` tool? damn thing doesn't want to checkout PRs anymore, getting 404
[11:00] <pstolowski> mborzecki: i do from time to time, let me check
[11:01] <pstolowski> mborzecki: works, hub 2.14.2
[11:01] <mborzecki> pstolowski: hm same version :/
[11:02] <pstolowski> mborzecki: hub pr checkout 10676, that's what i tried
[11:14] <mborzecki> pstolowski: ok, i'm a muppet, was calling that in a different repository
[11:14] <pstolowski> lol
[11:21] <pstolowski> mvo: can you land https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10617? random failures
[11:21] <mup> PR #10617: cmd/snap: add Size column to refresh --list <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10617>
[11:45] <pstolowski> i saw some PRs failing with https://codecov.io: 404 on CodeCov
[11:52] <mup> PR snapd#10679 opened: tests: fix restore in snapfuse spread tests <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10679>
[12:19] <mborzecki> miguelpires: hm something went south a bit: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9z2R25ZtSX/ can you check whether this happens on master too?
[12:19] <mborzecki> (that's after mergin master to #10241)
[12:19] <mup> Bug #10241: readline5: FTBFS: Missing Build-Depends on 'texinfo' <readline5 (Ubuntu):Fix Released by doko> <readline5 (Debian):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/10241>
[12:19] <mup> PR #10241: tests: set memory limit for snapd <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10241>
[12:23] <miguelpires> mborzecki: do you mean the error itself or the weird whitespace? I opened a PR to fix the spread test: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10679
[12:23] <mup> PR #10679: tests: fix restore in snapfuse spread tests <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10679>
[12:24] <mborzecki> miguelpires: the spread test, thanks for pushing a fix!
[12:29] <pstolowski> miguelpires: haha, funny how ---purge went unnoticed because of that other problem you fixed
[12:38] <mardy> are your PRs also affected by spread timeouts, or is it only mine? :-) https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10606
[12:38] <mup> PR #10606: o/hookstate/ctlcmd: unify the error message when context is missing <Squash-merge> <Simple 😃> <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10606>
[12:42] <miguelpires> haha, I guess now we know the remove validation really works!
[12:44] <mvo> miguelpires: \o/
[12:49] <pstolowski> :)
[12:53] <ares1256> HI, I am working on a project to setup a hotspot and do a lot more things. So, I am using wifi-ap to create hotspot. I add it to stage snaps. How am I supposed to run a snap installed in my snap?
[12:53] <ares1256> i try running the executable in the $SNAP/bin folder but it does not work, am I missing something?
[12:55] <miguelpires> mardy: I noticed the same  "cannot provision XYZ: quota 'CPUS' exceeded"
[12:55] <zyga> ares1256, do you want to run an exported snap application from the system or an internal binary from a snap command
[12:56] <ares1256> yeah I want to run an exported snap from my snap command
[12:56] <zyga> ?
[12:56] <zyga> wait, what is an exported snap?
[12:56] <zyga> do you want to run an app published by your own snap from another app in your own snap?
[12:56] <ares1256> like a snap which is already on the store'
[12:56] <zyga> ah
[12:56] <zyga> that's not possible unless your snap is using classic confinement
[12:56] <ares1256> ohh
[12:56] <zyga> that would introduce a dependency
[12:57] <zyga> and those must be modeled with interfaces
[12:57] <zyga> but technically it's just hard/impossible to run an app from another app
[12:57] <zyga> mainly because seccomp, by design, does not allow a process to shed past restrictions
[12:58] <ares1256> and that would also mean that the snap should have interfaces available to interact with it right?like slots availble to connect to...
[12:58] <zyga> and technically your snap sandbox would combine with the sandbox of the other app, resulting in breakage at best
[12:58] <zyga> right but even then you have to explicitly design for that
[12:58] <ares1256> ohh...
[12:58] <zyga> e.g. by offering a socket and having an interface that lets one of the snaps talk to the other
[12:58] <zyga> services are hard
[12:59] <zyga> the socket model is really the way forward but it requires some preparation
[12:59] <zyga> as each service runs with its own confinement
[12:59] <ares1256> so lets say there is a snap wifi-ap
[12:59] <zyga> and technically the interface is not about snap-to-snap communication
[12:59] <zyga> but about a snap-to-service
[12:59] <ares1256> and i can start wifi-sp by command start
[12:59] <zyga> and the service _can_ be replaced by another snap
[12:59] <ares1256> so i cant have a shell file saying "start"?
[13:00] <ares1256> to begin that wifi-ap snap?
[13:00] <zyga> no
[13:00] <ares1256> ohh
[13:00] <zyga> well, I can explain why
[13:00] <zyga> but no
[13:00] <zyga> for both technical and design reasons
[13:00] <zyga> you can run any command from the unconfined host process
[13:01] <zyga> but once you are inside a snap application, you are confined and you cannot, by design, execute apps from other snaps
[13:01] <zyga> (or most of the host apps for that matter)
[13:01] <zyga> on ubuntu-core devices this is strict, on classic devices you may use classic confinement to do more free-form snaps but those are notoriously hard to get right
[13:01] <zyga> (with apologies to sergiusens)
[13:02] <ares1256> yeah i was able to do it in devmode...but when i came to starict.....nothing was working
[13:02] <zyga> right
[13:02] <zyga> that's expecte
[13:02] <zyga> *expected
[13:02] <zyga> even in devmode you could easily hit a wall where it breaks though
[13:02] <zyga> because unless both snaps are in devmode
[13:03] <zyga> the "other" snap is still using normal confinement
[13:03] <ares1256> so my only option is to create my own hotspot snap?
[13:03] <zyga> or bundle both into one larger snap
[13:03] <ares1256> if i need full control over it
[13:03] <ogra> ares1256, have a look at https://github.com/ogra1/nm-wifi-hotspot-snap
[13:04] <ogra> (also in the store already)
[13:04] <zyga> or work with the author of the other snap to create a control interface
[13:04] <zyga> (a socket and a matching snapd interface that allows you to use it)
[13:04] <zyga> hey ogra :-)
[13:04] <ogra> yo !
[13:04] <zyga> how have you been?
[13:04] <ogra> playing with kiosks recently again
[13:05] <ares1256> thanks, i wil look into this @o
[13:05] <ogra> (trying to convince a browser to use accelerated video playback on a PI ... with a fun 5000 line patch to chromium 😛 )
[13:05] <ares1256> thanks ogra and zyga i will look into this
[13:06] <zyga> ares1256, good luck!
[13:06] <zyga> ogra, raspberry pi, how we all have to deal with it :)
[13:06] <ogra> ares1256, also, in case you are interested in a captive-portal setup https://github.com/ogra1/opennds-snap ... (https://snapcraft.io/opennds and https://snapcraft.io/nm-wifi-hotspot are the store pages for them)
[13:07] <ogra> zyga, yeah ... its a blessing and a curse at the same time 🙂
[13:07] <ares1256> Alright(y)
[13:07] <zyga> ogra, I was looking for CM4 modules but availability is well into the Q2 2022
[13:07] <ogra> yeah, chip shortage
[13:08] <zyga> at some point I can switch to pico :)
[13:08] <zyga> and play with zephyr
[13:08] <zyga> but not yet
[13:08] <ogra> i luckily got my CM4 half a year ago ... running fine, booting off NVME PCIe 😉
[13:09] <zyga> ogra, I was looking for a model that doesn't suck, some ram, emmc and wifi
[13:09] <zyga> no luck
[13:09] <zyga> base boards are plentiful though
[13:09] <ogra> yeah
[13:10] <ogra> i guess the chip shortage will still last a while 😞
[13:11] <zyga> how come we have chip shortage and not beer shortage
[13:11] <zyga> can people really consume more silicon than alcohol? ;-)
[13:12] <ogra> lol
[13:25] <ares1256> hi ogra , just to be sure. If i can use nm-wifi-hotspot. I have to include the app inside my snap right?
[13:25] <ares1256> *inside my snapcraft.yaml
[13:25] <ogra> ares1256, as you like, you can just use the existing snap but will need to manually set the SSID and password
[13:26] <ares1256> yeah thats fine
[13:26] <ares1256> ok thanks
[13:26] <ogra> or you can include my snap via stage-snaps
[13:26] <ogra> or you can just copy/paste the part and app bits from my snapcraft.yaml into yours
[13:26] <ogra> all three should work
[13:26] <ares1256> if i stage snaps, can i run this command then " snap set nm-wifi-hotspot ssid="My Cool SSID""
[13:27] <ogra> it will be slghtly different since you likely wont call it nm-wifi-hotspot ... but yeah, the basics should be the same
[13:27] <ares1256> ohk(y)
[13:28] <ogra> if you have any issues down the road, feel free to ask
[13:29] <ares1256> ok, thanks
[13:32] <ares1256> just another small question of a different topic
[13:32] <ares1256> i want to modify a config file that i stored in $snap_data directory
[13:32] <ares1256> so i add a plug
[13:32] <ares1256>   config-files:
[13:32] <ares1256>     interface: system-files
[13:32] <ares1256>     read:
[13:32] <ares1256>     - $SNAP_DATA/AP_config
[13:32] <ares1256>     - $SNAP_DATA/lte_config
[13:33] <ares1256> when i compile this, it always gives an erro that it requires "/" first
[13:34] <ogra> you do not need an interface for accessing $SNAP_DATA ...
[13:34] <ogra> that is always rw for the snap
[13:35] <ares1256> ohh
[13:35] <ares1256> ok
[13:35] <ogra> and yes, system-files requires a full path on the filesystem, it is usually used to i.e. access something on the host filesystem you normally can not get access to with any existing interface
[13:41] <pstolowski> mvo: can you merge https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10584 ?
[13:41] <mup> PR #10584: o/assertstate: fix missing 'scheduled' header when auto refreshing assertions <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10584>
[13:48] <mvo> pstolowski: sure
[13:48] <mvo> thanks pstolowski and miguelpires
[13:52] <mup> PR snapd#10584 closed: o/assertstate: fix missing 'scheduled' header when auto refreshing assertions <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10584>
[14:22] <mup> PR snapd#10680 opened: o/assertstate,daemon: refresh validation sets assertions with snap declarations <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10680>
[14:28] <mvo> ijohnson[m]: a second review for 10666 would be great
[14:29] <mardy> mvo: could you please use your magic powers on https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10606 ?
[14:29] <mup> PR #10606: o/hookstate/ctlcmd: unify the error message when context is missing <Squash-merge> <Simple 😃> <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10606>
[14:29] <pstolowski> mvo: can you merge #10617 as well?
[14:29] <mup> PR #10617: cmd/snap: add Size column to refresh --list <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10617>
[14:29] <mup> Bug #10617: Multiple cd burning problems <Ubuntu:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/10617>
[14:42] <pstolowski> my old PR that is test-only needs a 2nd review: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10243
[14:42] <mup> PR #10243: tests: failure of prereqs on content interface doesn't prevent install <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10243>
[14:47] <pstolowski> cachio_: could you merge master into #10443 to ensure it still passes (i was last executed 1 month ago)
[14:47] <mup> PR #10443: tests: check files and dirs are cleaned for each test <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10443>
[14:47] <mup> Bug #10443: X pointer persistent in middle of screen on login <xfree86 (Ubuntu):Invalid by daniels> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/10443>
[15:49] <miguelpires> mvo: can you merge #10679 please?
[15:49] <mup> PR #10679: tests: fix restore in snapfuse spread tests <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10679>
[15:49] <mup> Bug #10679: Use xdelta binary diffs in Ubuntu unstable release? <apt (Ubuntu):Invalid by mdz> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/10679>
[15:50] <mvo> miguelpires: sure
[15:53] <mup> PR snapd#10679 closed: tests: fix restore in snapfuse spread tests <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10679>
[16:46] <mup> PR snapcraft#3571 opened: [WIP] offline <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3571>
[20:36] <mup> PR snapcraft#3572 opened: cli & providers: pass part names for lifecycle commands <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3572>
[20:46]  * cachio_ afk
[23:59] <mup> PR snapd#10681 opened: interfaces/hardware-observe: add some dmi properties <Simple 😃> <Needs security review> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10681>


[02:17] <wolfheart> hello
[02:39] <wolfheart> anyone know how to install wine1.7 on ubuntu 15.04 please as i added the wine ppa and done sudo apt-get update and got this message when doing sudo apt-get install wine1.7 winetricks " Package wine1.7 is not available, but is referred to by another package. "
[03:18] <jtaylor> possibly its just named wine
[03:18] <jtaylor> wolfheart: check apt-cache policy wine
[03:21] <wolfheart> jtaylor : yeah its called wine thank you
[08:08] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:10] <Mikaela> hi
[08:11] <lordievader> Hey Mikaela, how are you?
[08:12] <Mikaela> not so well and you?
[08:12] <lordievader> Not so well? How come? If I may ask?
[08:13] <lordievader> I'm doing quite allright.
[08:14] <Mikaela> today just isn't so good day and some people
[08:15] <lordievader> I see, mondays ;)
[08:20] <Mikaela> at least it's only ~2 hours to lunch and home
[08:21] <lordievader> Yayy :)
[13:17] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks


[06:40] <dun> hi
[06:41] <dun> ok
[06:41] <dun> Hi
[09:48] <parthparikh> hi i am having an issue with ubuntu mate
[09:48] <parthparikh> i am using it in virtual machine
[09:48] <parthparikh> and i cannot get it in full screen mode
[14:12] <arduino_> ieee
[14:13] <arduino__> aaa
[14:13] <arduino__> holaaa
[14:13] <arduino_> q tal
[14:13] <arduino_> hermano
[14:13] <arduino__> pueh mu bien primoh
[14:13] <arduino_> mi surmanito
[14:13] <arduino__> T_T
[14:14] <arduino_> (80)
[14:50] <hermes> Hola buenos dias
[14:51] <hermes> estoy empezando con ubuntu mate, acabo de instalar  el ide android studio con make mediante umake android
[14:51] <hermes> pero no se como iniciar el ide
[14:51] <hermes> alguien puede ayudarme por favor?
[14:52] <hermes> how can I acces to /home/hermes/.local/share/umake/android/android-studio ?
[15:03] <ouroumov> !es | hermes
[15:04] <hermes> Gracias ouroumov
[15:04] <hermes>  /join #ubuntu-es
[15:04] <hermes> join #ubuntu-es
[15:06] <hermes> ya me uni al canal  #ubuntu-es  gracias
[15:11] <ouroumov> hermes: no space before "/"
[16:03] <rafael_> hi
[16:03] <rafael_> hi\
[16:03] <rafael_> hey
[16:04] <rafael_> hello!
[16:04] <ouroumov_> hi rafael_
[16:05] <ouroumov_> Do you have an issue you need assistance with?
[16:05] <rafael_> Yes friend
[16:06] <rafael_> Are you mate administrators?
[16:07] <rafael_> I have some problems
[16:08] <rafael_> First because there are so few programs available in software?
[16:10] <rafael_> And I'm working on construct 2 and I get any number of problems know any solution?
[16:12] <rafael_> Thank you!
[17:48] <reda_> hi my name is REDA
[18:34] <justalex> hi
[18:41] <alkisg> Hi
[22:07] <j09> Hey guys. May I have a little help. When I use Chromium, the cursor theme changes to Breeze Dark. I don't know why and how to change it. It's only with Chromium.
[22:12] <j09> I've seen the bug mentioned in forums but none of the fixes has worked for me.
[22:19] <j09> Basically all other applications work fine, it's just Chromium. It seems to want to use the system default cursor theme for hyperlinks. Is there any way I can fix it, or at least change the system cursor theme?
[22:47] <georgios_> hello, all beautiful people!
[22:50] <georgios_> i have a raspberry pi2 and iwant to learn how i install UBUNTU MATE OS from RASBIAN OS step by step.Knows any one to tell me?
[22:54] <georgios_> install ubuntu mate on raspberry pi2
[22:55] <georgios_> how
[22:57] <georgios_> who knows?
[22:59] <sixwheeledbeast^> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/