[00:00] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: We're both talking about ntfs-3g yeah? Just to confirm. Also, does NTFS-3G treat internal partitions different than external hard drives? I've got a couple externals that are mounting fine on another box, and actually other internal partitions too...dunno what's...different about this one!
[00:00] <kanhiya> I found that Ubuntu 11.10 is just a crap of mind
[00:00] <kanhiya> waste time in finding solutions of bugs
[00:00] <kanhiya> So manu bugs
[00:00] <kanhiya> many
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> wizonesolutions: the location of the partition is moot, as long as it is seen correctly by the kernel, all access is abstracted by the kernel.
[00:01] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: Anyway, no luck with those options either. I put them in exactly as you wrote them.
[00:01] <kanhiya> Waiting for LTS and will be last linux Distro , i will try otherwise will switch to Windows
[00:01] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: Good to know. Probably diff NTFS-3G versions then is what's throwing me off
[00:01] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: what is your problem now?
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: All I needed on my home server was uid=<username>,gid=<groupname> and I was golden. But that doesn't seem to be enough here.
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Trying to get write access as my normal user to an NTFS partition.
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: AKA, trying to mount it as such.
[00:02] <wizonesolutions> s/as/with
[00:02] <tjkent> you can't mount it at all?
[00:03] <tjkent> when you try to mount it does it say that it is busy or can you not even see it?
[00:03] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: I mount it, but it basically ignores anything I specify about permissoins.
[00:03] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Mounting works. But the permissions are not as I want.
[00:04] <tjkent> I am assuming that you are dual booting?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> wizonesolutions: try changing ntfs-3g to auto
[00:04] <KFP> Hi there.  I just upgraded my graphics card, but I can't seem to get it to work properly.
[00:05] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: You mean for the filesystem basically?
[00:05] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Yep, dual-booting.
[00:05] <tjkent> what is wrong with the permissions are you not able to write anything to it?
[00:05] <agentgasmask> ActionParsnip: No, I'll have to do that. I thought there might be 3rd party raid tools that would work with it.
[00:06] <netninja> wizonesolutions: not to be smart, I'm joining the convo in the middle, but did you just try "sudo mount /dev/<whatever> /<mountpoint>"?  Doesn't that default to auto?
[00:06] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: File/directory ownership. Users is owned by root/root, so I can't cd in or see anything.
[00:06] <macPawns> can anyone help me get my touchpad recognized
[00:06] <macPawns> 11.04 i386 fresh install
[00:06] <marabi2> hello  netninja sup
[00:06] <KFP> My old graphics card was an Nvidia GF 8500GT and the new one is an Nvidia GTX550 Ti.  When I try to use the Nvidia proprietary drivers, the computer refuses to start X, saying "kernel module NVIDIA not found".
[00:06] <netninja> sup
[00:06] <tjkent> well I got one way that you can do it, but I don't use ntfs-3g
[00:06] <tjkent> and I am able to do everything
[00:07] <tjkent> also it mounts when it boots
[00:07] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: If it's safe...then I don't really care if it's ntfs-3g or not.
[00:07] <wizonesolutions> netninja: pretty sure that won't do it but humoring you, one sec.
[00:07] <netninja> sorry :/
[00:07] <tjkent> yea it is safe
[00:08] <netninja> just brainstorming
[00:08] <wizonesolutions> netninja: No prob, appreciate it. It didn't work :(
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> KFP: did you remove the driver before switching the hardware
[00:08] <aikInsaan|home> hi
[00:08] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: OK so shoot
[00:08] <tjkent> pm'd it to you
[00:08] <aikInsaan|home> how does one get to the Ubuntu GUI from bash shell?
[00:09] <wizonesolutions> ActionParsnip: Changing to auto wouldn't do it since netninja's suggestion didn't work.
[00:09] <tjkent> I wrote the whole thing for my school so I know that it works
[00:09] <netninja> aikInsaan: "startx"?
[00:09] <KFP> ActionParsnip:  Uh, I removed it afterwards.   ._.       Then reinstalled.
[00:09] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: did you get it?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> KFP: did you reboot so that you were using the open driver for a spell?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> KFP: you may want to add the xorg edgers updates ppa (not the xorg edgers itself) and instal the 285 driver
[00:11] <marabi2> hi ring2 sup
[00:12] <kevin_> hi all. any way i can default /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and ip_dynaddr to "1"? or do i have to just set it to 1 always in an init.d script
[00:12] <KFP> ActionParsnip: I think I'm using the open driver now (I deleted xorg.conf after X refused to start. Now I'm in X but not using the Nvidia driver.)
[00:12] <Kimble> Hi.  I'm trying to grant write permissions to a CIFS share to a user.  The share is mounted thusly in fstab: user=transmission%,noatime,nodiratime,rw,noexec,_netdev,sync. Transmission is the user I want to be able to write to the share. But it keeps getting a permission denied error. Ideas?
[00:12] <netninja> wizonesolutions: try mounting with these options: "rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000"
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> KFP: does:  sudo lshw -C display | grep driver    show: driver=nouveau
[00:13] <crazytrane> kevin_, i believe /etc/sysctl.conf is where you should look
[00:13] <netninja> wizonesolutions: remembering to mount with 3g ntfs
[00:14] <crazytrane> just add "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1"
[00:14] <crazytrane> might even be there already
[00:15] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Just tried similar with normal ntfs, will try with ntfs-3g (cc tjkent)
[00:15] <wizonesolutions> This is totally funky :D
[00:16] <wizonesolutions> oh yeah, one thing to revise from my original statement because I guess NTFS-3G has moved on from what I knew. xattrs and POSIX ACLs *are* enabled
[00:16] <wizonesolutions> it's by default, it seems
[00:16] <netninja> wizonesolutions: yeah, when I mount my Win8 partition from unity, it mounts this way automatically
[00:16] <wizonesolutions> but that may be interfering somehow
[00:16] <KFP> ActionParsnip: It doesn't show anything at all. :\      (well, it shows "sysfs (PCI)" for a bit but that disappears after a couple of seconds.
[00:16] <kevin_> crazytrane: great. thanks a lot
[00:16] <KFP> Er, "PCI (sysfs)".
[00:17] <crazytrane> no prob
[00:17] <aikInsaan|home> how does one get to the Ubuntu GUI from bash shell?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> KFP: ok then try:  sudo lshw -C display
[00:17] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: You mentioned rebooting in PM, I just don't understand why I can't umount and then mount -a. What cached data or whatever is getting reinitialized upon reboot? Doesn't it just read from /etc/fstab like mount -a does?
[00:17] <netninja> aikInsaan: startx
[00:18] <KFP> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8VpZbtyW
[00:18] <aikInsaan|home> how does one get to the Ubuntu GUI from bash shell?
[00:18] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: fstab is read when your system boots
[00:18] <wizonesolutions> netninja: No luck on those options either :/
[00:19] <netninja> wizonesolutions: wow.  tjkent is right: are you adding this in fstab and then "mount -a"?
[00:19] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: Yeah mount -a and normal mount commands also check it if for example I type "mount /mnt/windows" <--- my mount point
[00:19] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: startx
[00:19] <JetJaguarXP> aikInsaan|home  The Ubuntu GUI should launch automatically
[00:19] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Yeah, I umount first
[00:19] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent: that doest work
[00:19] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: what is the error
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> KFP: looks good, add the repo and install nvidia-current to get the 295 driver
[00:20] <wizonesolutions> netninja: And it *does* get mounted again, so it's responding somehow. I don't see how it could only be half-responding, hence my question about what is different about rebooting if both methods are reading the same file.
[00:20] <MaynardJKeenan> hi
[00:20] <bobweaver> hello there I was looking aroung the net looking for top ten things to do after install ubuntu install. and Have found some cool stuff. but I guess I would like to hear from you also. Like what do you install after installing ubuntu. also I am having some troubles with my nvidia (02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G] [10de:0845] (rev a2))   I can not seem to get anything to record the desktop,
[00:20] <bobweaver> correctly that is. also my interneal mic will not work here is alsa for that  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c862089cec79175cfa218c69e04a720c4460136d
[00:20] <KFP> ActionParsnip: System -> Administration -> Additional drivers  says that the Nvidia (version current) driver is in use, but when I try "Nvidia X Server Settings" it says it's currently not in use. :/
[00:21] <MaynardJKeenan> if I instal the wireless drivers of my laptop through the software center
 should this fix my wireless problems?
[00:21] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: it worked for me
[00:21] <netninja> wizonesolutions: I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but if you "sudo umount /<mountpoint>" and then edit your fstab with the options I suggested, then "sudo mount -a" that should reload your fstab... is that what you're saying doesn't work, after you put what I suggested ("rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000") into fstab?
[00:21] <bobweaver> Oh also I have xorgers repo and nvidia current
[00:21] <KFP> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."     <--- But when I do that, it refuses to start X.
[00:21] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent:  it says '-bash: startx: command not found'
[00:21] <wizonesolutions> netninja: That's exactly what I've been doing, yep.
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> KFP: but did you add the repo?
[00:21] <netninja> aikInstaan: did you install the server version, or a version without GUI?
[00:22] <netninja> wizonesolutions: :(  sorry, that'd be my gamble-best-bet.  anything in logs?
[00:22] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent: installed an ubuntu image
[00:22] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: uname -a
[00:23] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Would that be syslog?
[00:23] <OffGridOps> Having issues w/wireless on Compaq CQ57 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886539) got a pm to ask here.  It won't connect.  Thanx
[00:23] <netninja> aikInsaan: "an ubuntu image" -- again, did you install a server image or an image without GUI?   where did you get your image?  what does uname report?
[00:23] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: dmesg|less
[00:23] <aikInsaan|home> Linux mx.xen76.node00001.gigatux.com <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>.2c5ec43-xen #1 SMP 2011-11-19 15:14:49 +0100 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:23] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent:  Linux mx.xen76.node00001.gigatux.com <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>.2c5ec43-xen #1 SMP 2011-11-19 15:14:49 +0100 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:24] <tjkent> I figured
[00:24] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  grid please open your terminal and type in: lspci -nn && lsmod && rfkill list all        then use paste.ubuntu.com to paste that to us thanks
[00:24] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: It actually was in syslog it seems...one sec
[00:24] <OffGridOps> k just a sec
[00:24] <aikInsaan|home> tjkent: what does that mean :p
[00:25] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: netninja: From log output, almost certain that the POSIX ACLs feature is burning me somehow, just not sure what options to set to disable it...or something. http://pastebin.com/bd685NFN
[00:26] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: Thats on a VPS?
[00:26] <KFP> ActionParsnip: Yup. Downloading updates now.
[00:26] <aikInsaan|home> yeah
[00:26] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: yeah that's true
[00:27] <wizonesolutions> GASP. I *do* have a UserMapping file. When did I create this!?
[00:27] <wizonesolutions> lol
[00:27]  * wizonesolutions renames
[00:28] <netninja> wizonesolutions: hah.
[00:28] <OffGridOps> pasted it
[00:28] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: You typically don't install X windows on a VPS. You could use x forwarding to run some graphical applications on the server but display them locally. What is your goal?
[00:28] <wizonesolutions> netninja: As usual, burned by software working correctly. As a programmer, I'm used to it. lol
[00:29] <netninja> aikInsaan|home: you're using a VPS/CT?  you *do* *not* want a GUI for this.
[00:29] <netninja> aikInsaan|home: I run a hosting company.  Running X on a CT is a massive resource killer.  Welcome to command line :)
[00:29] <aikInsaan|home> netninja: oh thanks
[00:29] <aikInsaan|home> netninja: my goal is to install mono
[00:29] <wizonesolutions> netninja tjkent ActionParsnip: Renaming the .NTFS-3G/UserMapping file I had but had forgotten about solved the issue. Do you guys have a karma system I can ++ you on or something?
[00:29] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  Paste from OffGridOps at Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:28:02 +0000  Not sure if that's what you wanted
[00:30] <aikInsaan|home> so I can run a .net stack
[00:30] <netninja> So, back to my problem for a second... if, when I'm finished with Memtest86+, and there are no issues, what else can I do to see what's wrong with suspend (doesn't reinitialize video drivers when un-suspended), and hibernate (doesn't actually hibernate - when I switch back on, it's a fresh boot)???
[00:30] <tjkent> wizonesolutions: tjkent ubuntu forums
[00:31] <tjkent> aikInsaan|home: I am thinking that you downloaded the server disto
[00:31] <wizonesolutions> tjkent: How do I do it there?
[00:31] <Pici> tjkent: its a VPS, of course its the server release.
[00:31] <bobweaver> !paste OffGridOps
[00:32] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: I want to get mono up so I can run the .net stack and serve asp website off it
[00:32] <aikInsaan|home> do I need to go through it all via CLI?
[00:32] <tjkent> when did you guys realize it was VPS?
[00:32] <OffGridOps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761076/
[00:32] <netninja> wizonesolutions: unfortunately, no, just pm me here, or on efnet, or blitzed, if you want to buy hosting space with root access :)
[00:32] <stinkfist> do you guys have any idea why wont my firefox work on wireless?
[00:33] <stinkfist> I just installed my wireless drivers and it says that i am connected
[00:33] <stinkfist> but firefox wont load any pages
[00:33] <wizonesolutions> netninja: Haha OK :P
[00:33] <stinkfist> as if its offline
[00:33] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: Yes, but your app may not work out-of-the-box, there may be programming changes needed for it to run on mono.
[00:33] <netninja> stinkfist: can you ping from a terminal window?
[00:33] <stinkfist> erm Im going to try that
[00:33] <stinkfist> ill google how to ping from a terminal
[00:34] <OffGridOps> was gonna say ping www.google.com or yahoo from terminal
[00:34] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  your card is turned off by a switch   (Hard blocked: yes)   turn it on. if that dont work then rmmod hp_wmi
[00:34] <OffGridOps> wherre can i go to learn how to do that?
[00:35] <JoseP> Hey, I have a question
[00:35] <JoseP> is there a way to delete duplicate songs on Rhythmbox?
[00:35] <netninja> stinkfist: open a terminal window; type "ping yahoo.com", after a few seconds, type "Ctl-C" to stop, and see if you have any packet loss in the stats.
[00:35] <aikInsaan|home> hmm.....life getting excited
[00:36] <aikInsaan|home> so I should install mono and apache server and mercurial and everything else via the CLI
[00:36] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: Thats how the rest of us do it.
[00:37] <VinZe_DiamoNd> hola como estan?
[00:37] <JoseP> Bien, y tu?
[00:37] <VinZe_DiamoNd> muy bien gracias
[00:37] <KFP> ActionParsnip: There, installed updates.
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: wow!
[00:37] <somsip> !es | VinZe_DiamoNd
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> that is amazing
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> always wanted to do it....ended up with a win server
[00:37] <aikInsaan|home> and never learnt a thing!
[00:37] <monohedron> hi guys, I'm looking for a way to load an image straight into the clipboard
[00:38] <JoseP> aikInsaan|home, I had a windows server
[00:38] <JoseP> never worked
[00:38] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  this is what rfkill list does   if it say softblock  yes then there is a software trouble . if it say hard block there is a hardware swich that is blocking it
[00:38] <JoseP> never like it
[00:38] <JoseP> switched to Ubuntu, and in 2 days, I achieved what I didn't in 6 months
[00:38] <VinZe_DiamoNd> aparte de mi alguien habla español
[00:38] <VinZe_DiamoNd> ?¡
[00:38] <aikInsaan|home> so there need to be code changes if I want to run on mono??
[00:38] <Pici> somsip: there might need to be some
[00:38] <Pici> VinZe_DiamoNd: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:38] <JoseP> VinZe_DiamoNd, mira, hay un canal para espanol. creo que es #Ubuntu-es
[00:38] <somsip> Pici: not me mate
[00:39] <Pici> somsip: oops, sorry ;)
[00:39] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: there might need to be some
[00:39] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  so if you flip the switch a bunch and rfkill list still shows that YES then it is wmi fault as that is what controls the switch
[00:39] <bobweaver> somethimes fault *
[00:40] <monohedron> looking for a way to load an image straight into the clipboard
[00:40] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  so i am seeing the wireless light on the keyboard with a blue light (f12 key).  What I don't know how to do is turn the hard block from off to on I guess
[00:40] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  you said it was a cq57 ?
[00:40] <OffGridOps> yes sir.  profiled it on the thread above.  brand new.  wifi worked with the stick
[00:41] <KFP> ActionParsnip: ...But still the same situation.   Can't start X without deleting xorg.conf first. And then I'm stuck with 1280x800 resolution (on a 1920x1024 display), and can't use Nvidia X Server Settings. :\
[00:41] <VinZe_DiamoNd> nadie me contesta pero graciasx
[00:41] <OffGridOps> wait one.  weird thing happened when i hit f12
[00:42] <aikInsaan|home> Pici: what sort of changes are we looking at...??
[00:42] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  cool look at rfkill list     again is hard block still blocked ?
[00:43] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  communicating via wireless now.  does this mean that each time i want to use the wireless I need to click the f12?  it seems odd that the blue light on the key stays blue whether it is on or off.
[00:43] <M4dD0G> please how do i download these files hat room. A little helpful information for beginners: http://pastebin.com/Y72QcnB9
[00:43] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  if it is switched off
[00:43] <Pici> aikInsaan|home: I don't know. I'm not fluent in mono or .NET.  You may want to check out #mono on irc.gnome.org
[00:43] <aikInsaan|home> will do
[00:44] <aikInsaan|home> thanks guys
[00:44] <SolarisBoy> mono the viral infection?
[00:44] <OffGridOps> just a sec
[00:44] <M4dD0G> sorry wrong link https://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev/
[00:44] <monohedron> are there any other channels where I could pose that question?
[00:44] <monohedron> ?
[00:44] <monohedron> looking for a way to load an image straight into the clipboard
[00:45] <Pici> monohedron: ##linux, as it isn't Ubuntu specific.   (also, xclipboard *might* be helpful)
[00:45] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  that is a svn package? do you have subversion installed ?
[00:45] <monohedron> thanks can't retrieve channel list
[00:45] <netninja> monohedron: load it... from where?
[00:45] <monohedron> a file
[00:46] <netninja> monohedron: ugh.  so, right-click and hit copy?
[00:46] <monohedron> or even pipe it into clipbrd
[00:46] <monohedron> programatically
[00:46] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: no il go see if i can get it thanx..!
[00:46] <monohedron> ...
[00:46] <netninja> monhohedron: I"m trying to get you to refine your question with more relevant details :)
[00:46] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  so no it is not.  i disconnected the wifi by f12 and then had to mash it a bunch of times to get it back on.  i believe that the f12 is the key here and that some kind of work needs to be done to turn the light off and on or it will always be a mess and maybe notations put in about the cq57
[00:46] <kierkkadon> So while trying out Darwinia (could use a little more helpful tutorial, imo) it crashed and froze. On windows I usually ctrl+alt+del my way out of any program freezes, but I had no idea what to do in Ubuntu. Ctrl+alt+del logged me out and ended all open processes apparently, so I signed back in.
[00:46] <kierkkadon> Apparently, to GNOME 2. When I had been using 3.
[00:46] <kierkkadon> Having no idea what was going on, I restarted my whole computer, log back in, and it's back to normal. What do?
[00:47] <kierkkadon> (I'm completely new to linux, if you haven't noticed)
[00:47] <netninja> monohedron: as in, "I'm trying to figure out how to write a script which will automatically take a file as input and place the resultant image (jpeg, png, whatever) into the clipboard.
[00:47] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  would like permission to use your name in the ubuntu forums thread and give a rundown on our discussions tonight
[00:47] <monohedron> netninja, jup
[00:47] <monohedron> that would do
[00:47] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  sudo apt-get -y install subversion && svn checkout  https://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin libgarmin
[00:48] <netninja> monohedron: are you familiar with programming languages, or are you *not* looking to write your own?
[00:48] <DarwinSurvivor> has anyone here had issues with gnome-terminal not redrawing properly? (tried nvidia 180 & 190, using gnome-shell w/o compiz)
[00:48] <marabi2> hello how are you doing my dear?
[00:48] <monohedron> yes i can do that in python for example but I don't get it that there isn't a tool like xclip7
[00:48] <monohedron> xclip
[00:49] <M4dD0G>  bobweaver: im on a N900, im trying to get navit installed. it's installed now
[00:49] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  not sure what that is sorry
[00:49] <kierkkadon> Navi
[00:50] <wtfTroll> i got an irc related question
[00:50] <funnyfingers> Will (or has?..) Ubuntu continue to use init LSB for the foreseeable future or will it move to systemd?
[00:50] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: it's a gps map. open source.
[00:51] <wtfTroll> i know how to set IRC ops from conf but is there an IRC op mode
[00:51] <benayache> hi
[00:51] <Pici> wtfTroll: #freenode would be a more appropriate place for this
[00:51] <bobweaver> OffGridOps:  that is fine (fourms ) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/josephmills
[00:51] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i want to creat a launcher for a precompiled binary that runs in a terminal emulator but nothing i've tried works.  any ideas?
[00:52] <M4dD0G> im getting segmentation fault when trying command "svn checkout http://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev libgarmin"
[00:52] <funnyfingers> binMonkey sort of like in Windows where an extension tied to an executable?
[00:53] <Kimble> What's the best practise for disabling a /etc/init.d/ service from running on boot?
[00:53] <monohedron> !ops wtfTroll trolling
[00:54] <StepNjump> Hi guys, up until recently, my computer was working well. Yesterday it told me I only had 1.5 GB left available on my partition and now it's down at 3.5 MB.. Strangely enough, I think I have plenty of room. I tried du -sh, looked at gparted... I think my home partition is on the same partition as / anyone could help?
[00:54] <binMonkey> funnyfingers: i don't think so.  i can run it from the terminal using ./adom.  but addiing /home/binMonkey/adom/adom or ./adom to a launcher does nothing but open up a terminal.
[00:54] <OffGridOps> @bobweaver:  ok thanx and it will be in the ubuntu thread as listed initially
[00:54] <Pici> monohedron: what?
[00:54] <Pici> monohedron: I don't see any issues.
[00:55] <monohedron> ...
[00:55] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: try df -h (du is for the current folder)
[00:55] <brightspark> Hi, the icons for my volume and network connection (maverick; in the notification area) do not reflect my current icon theme.  How can I fix this?
[00:56] <Pici> monohedron: if you want to pm me about it, thats fine too.
[00:56] <sudoman> StepNjump: what if you try # apt-get clean ?
[00:56] <sudoman> StepNjump: that would clear out your apt cache.
[00:56] <funnyfingers> Kimble - it is a symbolic link from within /etc/rcX there is also a command that does that for you.  I forget the name offhand.
[00:56] <StepNjump> Thanks DarwinSurvivor and sudoman.. Let me try those. brb
[00:56] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: im getting segmentation fault when trying command "svn checkout http://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev libgarmin"
[00:57] <funnyfingers> rc0.d/    rc2.d/    rc4.d/    rc6.d/    rcS.d/
[00:57] <funnyfingers> rc1.d/    rc3.d/    rc5.d/    rc.local
[00:57] <stinkfist> i think x chat bugged for a while
[00:57] <stinkfist> so if anyone replied to me please repeat ; _ ;
[00:57] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  let me try
[00:58] <StepNjump> Thanks DarwinSurvivor, df -h reports that my / is on sda6... I guess.... and that I have 8 GB available still... But a lot of applications were starting to tell me that I am running out of disk space!
[00:58] <Kimble> funnyfingers: hey.  Hmm, I'll look into it. Thanks.  Get back to me if you remember the command for it :)
[00:59] <crazytrane> kimble, install bum from apt-get
[00:59] <sudoman> StepNjump: maybe you do have different partitions then?
[00:59] <crazytrane> that is an easy way to do it
[00:59] <StepNjump> sudoman, yes I have a lot of other partitions...
[00:59] <Kimble> crazytrane: looking it up now. Ta.
[00:59] <crazytrane> if you like the gui, otherwise chkconfig will work too
[01:00] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  open termminal : mkdir <name of program>   then   cd <new dir >  then   svn checkout https://libgarmin.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libgarmin/libgarmin/dev/
[01:00] <StepNjump> from previous failed installs
[01:00] <Kimble> crazytrane: oh, bum needs a GUI? I'm CLI only. So, chkconfig then?
[01:00] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: paste the entire output of "df -h" to pastebin.org and post the link
[01:02] <crazytrane> oh yeah
[01:02] <stinkfist> when i write sudo lshw -C network in the terminal they ask for password
[01:02] <crazytrane> chkconfig
[01:02] <stinkfist> what password are they asking for exactly ?
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> stinkfist: you are using "sudo" which asks for YOUR password to perform adminstrative actions
[01:02] <stinkfist> but it never let me finishes typing it for some reason
[01:02] <L3d> can someone explain to me how to add the xvba lines in etc/env ,cause i keep getting errors ,and i dont know if i need to justify and what not :/
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> stinkfist: what do you mean by "never lets you finish"?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: could use:  df -h | pastebinit
[01:02] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  after that run :  ./autosh.sh    then  ./configure   then   make    then make install
[01:02] <borillion> um how do you grep for things like symbols ex '->cow
[01:02] <Pici> stinkfist: for security reasons, it won't echo back asterisks or anything when you type your password.
[01:02] <stinkfist> it always interrupts me saying Sorry try again
[01:02] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: *if* he has pastebinit installed...
[01:02] <Hilikus> can somone take a look at this pulse log and tell me if there's anything wrong? i'm trying to start pulse from the mpd user unsuccessfully
[01:02] <OerHeks> stinkfish you won't see dots or stars when typing your password
[01:02] <Hilikus> http://pastebin.com/YMfkyhm2
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: just ttype your password and hit enter, sudo gives no visible feeback
[01:03] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: ERROR SHADOW:/home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# mkdir libgarmin
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: its easy to install, great tool
[01:03] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  I will write a script
[01:03] <L3d> someone pm me pls .......
[01:03] <DarwinSurvivor> ActionParsnip: i agree, but getting every user that has stuff to post once to install it gets a little tiring :P
[01:03] <stinkfist> it wont let me finish typing it...
[01:03] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/761098/
[01:04] <Kimble> crazytrane: thanks for the recommendation. chkconfig looks the business. Karma +
[01:04] <L3d> vaapi and some good upate support would b nice tho ..
[01:04] <M4dD0G> bobweaver:  SHADOW:/home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# mkdir libgarmin /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# cd /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin//home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# cd /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin//home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps# cd /home/user/MyDocs/Navit-Maps/libgarmin/
[01:05] <L3d> how do i need to add the xvba lines in etc/env i know im in terminal and in the env file but what next ?
[01:05] <L3d> i like nana but im purdy new to all this
[01:05] <crazytrane> no prob, kimble!
[01:05] <L3d> lol nano
[01:06] <stinkfist> i think i got it now i understand what actionparsnip meant
[01:06] <L3d> damn
[01:06] <stinkfist> >.< i was pressing enter so i can see what i was typing
[01:06] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: good lord, why so many unused partitions? you have 10 partitions split between 2 drives and only appear to be using 1 of them (plus swap)....
[01:06] <Pici> L3d: Just type the lines in there that you need and save and you're done.  What part of it are you having issues with?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> DarwinSurvivor: true but very worthwhile
[01:06] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: do you dual-boot into a bunch of other distros/os's?
[01:06] <brightspark> Hi, the icons for my volume and network connection (maverick; in the notification area) do not reflect my current icon theme.  How can I fix this?
[01:06] <brightspark> gtk-update-icon-cache: The generated cache was invalid.
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> brightspark: could try logoff then logon
[01:06] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor.. I know... I need to recover the files from those old installations! I'm a real organization nightmare.. I know!
[01:06] <L3d> xvba needs to work with vaapi man ..
[01:07] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor, no! not even... just ntfs that I'm slowly phasing out too
[01:07] <StepNjump> I'm a work in progress
[01:07] <L3d> keep getting errors at the vainfo
[01:07] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, thanks.  This has persisted across reboots for some time now.  When I actually open power management it uses the correct icon, but not in the tray.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> brightspark: does it affect all themes?
[01:08] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: well, bottom line: you are using a 35GB partition for *everything* in ubuntu and have 8.1GB of that left (line 2). try "sudo apt-get clean" as sudoman suggested
[01:08] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/761101/   <-- take that and copy to gedit   then name garmin-script  and put in home dirctory. then open terminal and do a chmod +x garmin-script   then run ./garmin-script
[01:08] <tjkent> I can't get my printer to show up in ubuntu
[01:09] <StepNjump> Yes I have done this DarwinSurvivor.. Haven't seen the error since
[01:09] <tjkent> I have downloaded the driver but it won't show up under printers,
[01:09] <L3d> ok so i dont know hwta im doing wrong ,cant i just use synaptic for all this extra work ??
[01:09] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, yes.  I see the icon for the volume control and the logoff/shutdown menu change but not the icons for volume or network.
[01:09] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: it probably wasn't an error at all. the apt cache can EASILY take up multiple GigaBytes of space if not cleaned after a few months of updates
[01:09] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor, which partition contains my grub info (/boot)?
[01:10] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: ok thanks. will try it now. theres something wrong with svn. don't forget im not using ubuntu, but maemo5.
[01:10] <sudoman> StepNjump: if you didn't set it manually, it is under /
[01:10] <StepNjump> Besides DarwinSurvivor, I'm not even sure which software was telling me that I was running out of space. Could have been ubuntu one
[01:10] <sudoman> StepNjump: ... the same partition that / is on
[01:10] <L3d> why is vaapi such a difficult thing ...
[01:11] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: from your post: the actual data is in sda6, but the bootloader is either directly in sda or sdb (check your BIOS to see which drive it boots from).
[01:11] <StepNjump> ok sudoman
[01:11] <bobweaver> oh M4dD0G what is maemo5 ?
[01:11] <L3d> i see there is a diffrance in players and oss too heh
[01:11] <StepNjump> I should have created a /boot partition though with all those other old partitions
[01:11] <StepNjump> boots from sda
[01:11] <DarwinSurvivor> so /boot is part of sda06 (main partition), but it will be "activated" by a small bootloader in one of the 2 drives' boot sectors
[01:11] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: os for nokia N900
[01:12] <L3d> can someone pm me please to get thru this vainfo issue ?
[01:12] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  we should take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <StepNjump> but which partition... ! ??? Don't know... Not a problem. I will eventually reinstall the boot info in a /boot partition and do a update-grub but it scares the heck out of me
[01:12] <sudoman> StepNjump: i don't think there's much of an advantage of having a separate boot partition unless you are trying to encrypt as much as you possibly can. (you have to leave the boot partition unencrypted, because otherwise, you wouldn't have a kernel to perform the decryption.)
[01:12] <StepNjump> Ok guys, thanks for your help. I will let you know in case the error happens again
[01:13] <StepNjump> Well that's another good reason sudoman. I want to encrypt my ~/ eventually so... good point
[01:13] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: sda6 ( mounted as "/" )
[01:13] <L3d> how do i install tar.gz files again ?
[01:14] <L3d> ill get the splitted desktop ones than ..
[01:14] <sudoman> StepNjump: but you can do that without encypting the the / partition. if you don't encrypt that, you don't need to install a separate /boot partition. you can just let them stay together
[01:14] <M4dD0G> bobweaver: ok, sorry..!
[01:14] <StepNjump> Ok DarwinSurvivor.. Yes that's what I thought! thanks for confirming sda6
[01:14] <bobweaver> M4dD0G:  this phone looks awesome !
[01:14] <sudoman> StepNjump: if you are interested in going all the way, look up installation instructions for "full disk encryption"
[01:15] <L3d> how do i install the splitted desktop libva1 and xvba tar.gz,s
[01:15] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: basically, unless you see a drive mounted AS /boot, that means it is simply in the drive mounted as /
[01:15] <StepNjump> oh I see what you are saying sudoman.. So I would just encrypt a separate ~/ on it's own partition?
[01:15] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: with ecrypfs you don't even need to use a separate partition
[01:15] <sudoman> StepNjump: actually, ubuntu supports encrypting individual home folders, but you could also encrypt a separate home partition
[01:16] <StepNjump> yes but I wouldn't want my / encrypted all the way! That would be dumb no?
[01:16] <sudoman> StepNjump: the first might be easier to set up, i don't know
[01:16] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[01:16] <netninja> Question: I had Ubuntu installed on my laptop with everything working fine.  I upgraded to 8gb ram from 2 (two new 4gb chips) and all of a sudden, suspend doesn't re-initialize the video after I bring it out of suspend, and hibernate doesn't restart from session on bring-out-of-hibernate, it starts fresh.  Memory checks out ok.  Any ideas?
[01:16] <StepNjump> oh really! sudoman.. even my ~/Documents folder alone?
[01:16] <StepNjump> Thank you very much DarwinSurvivor and sudoman for all your help
[01:17] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: ecryptfs can be used to encrypt ANY folder (~/, ~/Documents, ~/Private, etc)
[01:17] <sudoman> StepNjump: well, you might want an encrypted /tmp and swap since those sometimes get temporary files from your home folder written to them. beyond that, it's a certain level of paranoia. (i have "full" disk encryption)
[01:17] <L3d> splitted desktop has libva1 with patches ,is this still the normal libva1 ?or do i need a libva cause its now-where ,im lost here ,someone ?
[01:17] <DarwinSurvivor> sudoman: swap is a good idea, but /tmp is never written to the HDD, so there's no point encrypting that
[01:18] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, I just confirmed that the problem persists across logoffs no matter which icon set I am using.
[01:18] <sudoman> DarwinSurvivor: didn't know that... thanks for the heads-up :)
[01:18] <DarwinSurvivor> sudoman: oh, wait, hold on a second
[01:18] <StepNjump> ok great!
[01:18] <DarwinSurvivor> sudoman: nope, my mistake, it is on the HDD. I hade manually set it up as a ramdisk :P
[01:18] <L3d> icon problems brightspark ?
[01:18] <sudoman> DarwinSurvivor: good idea :)
[01:18] <StepNjump> Iwill encrypt just ~/Documents, /tmp and /swap then!
[01:19] <L3d> remove smplayer i think ..
[01:19] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: sorry, /tmp IS on the HDD, you can mount it as a ramdisk if you like, but that pre-allocates ram (make sure you have LOTS before doing that!)
[01:19] <sudoman> StepNjump: you mean "swap", no '/'. it's a partition, not a folder
[01:19] <brightspark> L3d, yes- the notification area does not use the correct icons based on the theme I have selected.
[01:19] <StepNjump> I don't understand DarwinSurvivor? I only have 2 GB
[01:20] <L3d> what player do u use ?
[01:20] <brightspark> L3d, volume control uses the correct icon, but not battery or network
[01:20] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: the easiest (and most common) thing to do is encrypt the home folder of each user (~/), that includes Documents, Pictures, settings, cache, etc
[01:20] <StepNjump> oh ok sudoman.. so swap partition has to be encrypted eh?
[01:20] <SolarisBoy> heh
[01:20] <blaodsa> hey can anyone tell me what getty is and where it is for?
[01:20] <L3d> i got some other folder vieuw with smplayer some times ,i dunno
[01:20] <StepNjump> right.. Well I don't care about my pictures.. Nothing that I need to hide there.. It's more my banking info
[01:21] <sudoman> StepNjump: it doesn't have to be... but if you are willing to find good instructions, it can be done.
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> its a vty no?
[01:21] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: you can make /tmp a partition that resides in RAM, but then you have a limited size for /tmp and part of your ram gets used up for it. I wouldn't bother if I were you
[01:21] <brightspark> L3d, The program 'smplayer' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[01:21] <brightspark> sudo apt-get install smplayer
[01:21] <L3d> lol bankling info in a pc
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: they are virtual tty's
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: they spawn the VT's you access with CTRL + ALT + FN
[01:22] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: when encrypting the home folder, it automatically decripts it when you log in (using you password), it's 100% transparent and VERY easy to use.
[01:22] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: if tou have for instance 4 running you have like that many available virtual terminals that you can switch too
[01:22] <L3d> som programs change layout wich can do some other layout changes i think .. dont know anything else
[01:22] <L3d> what do i use for installing tar.gz ??
[01:22] <StepNjump> Yes ok DarwinSurvivor and sudoman.. I appreciate all your explanations. BTW, is there a macro available for xchat that would type our correspondent's nick when replying on the channel? either by right clicking or anything?
[01:23] <determinology> Ive ran into another problem when im on windows the internet is fast but when being on ubuntu the updates+apps+internet browsing is slow..Any ideas and even sometimes it doesnt connect to the page and i have to refresh
[01:23] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: also remember that lots of applications (even banking ones) save stuff to ~/.config, ~/.local, etc in the home folder, so you should encrypt the entire home folder if you are going to bother encrypting in the first place
[01:23] <brightspark> StepNjump, xchat has tab completion, which is probably easier to use in the first place.
[01:23] <sudoman> StepNjump: in weechat at least, you can start typing the first few letters and hit tab.
[01:23] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: type the first few characters, then hit <tab> for auto-complete
[01:23] <jehoshua02> Any tips on how to troubleshoot an "unable to read" message with ImageMagick?
[01:24] <StepNjump> I know DarwinSurvivor. It's really nice. I had it before but got worried that in the event my X would crash, I wouldn't know how to decrypt at the TTY
[01:24] <blaodsa> SolarisBoy: and what can i set or run when i start getty in a normal console?!
[01:24] <netninja> Question: I had Ubuntu installed on my laptop with everything working fine.  I upgraded to 8gb ram from 2 (two new 4gb chips) and all of a sudden, suspend doesn't re-initialize the video after I bring it out of suspend, and hibernate doesn't restart from session on bring-out-of-hibernate, it starts fresh.  Memory checks out ok.  Any ideas?
[01:24] <L3d> so after all my cmd time ,do i still need additional res drivers ?
[01:24] <L3d> you,d say allways heh no ?
[01:24] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: why would you want to start getty from a normal console?
[01:24] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: the link I posted includes instructions for manual decryption via command line
[01:25] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: besides, you should have external backups anyways :P
[01:25] <L3d> i allready got catalyst ,does this change after this ?
[01:25] <blaodsa> SolarisBoy: because my teacher told me i should do it .. and he wants to know the anser.. :D
[01:25] <StepNjump> oh nice, I'll try weechat! sudoman. Ok DarwinSurvivor.. copy that. I will encrypt the whole ~/ then
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> so you want your homework done?
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> blaodsa: your teacher told you you should do what?
[01:26] <L3d> im confussed
[01:26] <blaodsa> SolarisBoy: user getty in an normal console and find out what goes on ..
[01:26] <DarwinSurvivor> StepNjump: just make sure that you save a copy of the "encryption key" when you set up encryption (it will tell you to anyways). That key can be used to decrypt everything, so print/write it on paper and you will never lose your files :D
[01:26] <L3d> this joint should make up for that
[01:26] <SolarisBoy> that doesn't make sense
[01:27] <L3d> do i need additional restricted drivers after i allreadsy installed catalyst ?
[01:27] <SolarisBoy> you can access getty from a normal console as long as your on a remote connection to the host (like DRAC or ILO) or you are in front of it
[01:28] <L3d> gosh i mean ubuntu restricked extras ,do i need those after catalyst ?
[01:29] <L3d> i hope it doesnt do annything to the rest of my stuff see
[01:30] <L3d> my last question ehm restricked extras ,do i need those after i installed catalyst and the likes ?
[01:30] <Drone4four> i recently installed a Oneiric based Linux distro. it booted fine until I changed my fstab. i altered my fstab so i could access my ntfs and other Linux partitions. Now when I boot in recovery mode, it hangs after 2 or 3 seconds.  instead of using a pastebin, you can view my various fstabs and error message in the forum thread i created, here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=dab3245f216a61fdac23b704b5216
[01:30] <Drone4four> 800&p=11516014#post11516014
[01:31] <Drone4four> ugh, correct URL in full: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=dab3245f216a61fdac23b704b5216800&p=11516014#post11516014
[01:31] <n3oinc> Hello all. I was wondering if someone could help a noob out. I'm trying to figure out how to get Ubuntu (Running in VirtualBox) to consider the NIC it has as being an actual wireless interface. Any ideas?
[01:31] <L3d> i need to go on forums these days ...............
[01:31] <brightspark> Drone4four, what exactly does Oneiric-based mean?  You probably won't find help for something other than real ubuntu here.
[01:32] <Drone4four> brightspark: Mint 12
[01:32] <Drone4four> it's basically Ubuntu Oneiric, just with a different GUI
[01:32] <brightspark> !mint | Drone4four
[01:32] <L3d> my last question ehm restricked extras ,do i need those after i installed catalyst and the likes ?
[01:32] <L3d> i can do this ..
[01:33] <n3oinc> L3d: I believe that has something to do with encoded/compressed formats. Watching DVD's etc... Think you need that.
[01:33] <Hilikus> how can i install pulseaudio 1.1 which is currently on precise in oneiric?
[01:33] <L3d> i know that installing stuff sometimes needs to be done in a proper order am i wrong?
[01:33] <L3d> no im good at reign i gues
[01:34] <L3d> one dvd i plyed ,went purdy good
[01:34] <Drone4four> ...
[01:34] <L3d> srry for my dutch miss-spells
[01:35] <seanmc98> is there a way to blok ads system wide on ubuntu?
[01:35] <L3d> i dont want to install the ubuntu restrictive extras now because im not shure if stuff will fook up
[01:36] <L3d> addblock and better privacy work from browsers sows
[01:36] <seanmc98> even on chrome?
[01:36] <L3d> dont know if theres fine tunning
[01:36] <Drone4four> seanbrig1t: Linux Mint comes with ads?
[01:37] <L3d> u have that ubu chrome ?
[01:37] <L3d> thingy?
[01:37] <L3d> mint<--
[01:37] <n3oinc> Any idea how to make Ubuntu think a wired card is actually wireless?
[01:37] <seanmc98> L3d, yes chrome in ubuntu
[01:37] <Resistance> n3oinc:  if its not a wifi card, then no
[01:38] <n3oinc> Resistance: It's a bridged virtual adapter
[01:38] <L3d> i think it works wait a sec
[01:38] <n3oinc> Resistance: From a wireless card
[01:38] <L3d> http://noscript.net/
[01:38] <bhrandon> Is there a way to list files and fodlers in a directory by size?
[01:38] <bhrandon> using terminal
[01:39] <L3d> that and better privacy and addblock work a ok
[01:39] <L3d> jave allways complains :p
[01:39] <L3d> jaba
[01:39] <L3d> java
[01:39] <sudoman> Drone4four: i think he is talking about browser ads.
[01:40] <L3d> well maybe there all like guards .
[01:42] <L3d> noscript ,better privacy ,addblock heh cant seem to find it , arnt in the software center but in the issue mag,s
[01:42] <raven> ffmpeg where to find .ffpresets files? x264 presets (veryslow, ...) missing
[01:44] <L3d> does ffmpeg work for dual cores from the pc ?
[01:44] <Hilikus> how do i install a package from 12.04?
[01:44] <L3d> i thought it does
[01:44] <raven> ffmpeg where to find .ffpresets files? x264 presets (veryslow, ...) missing
[01:44] <itscool> how do i change the order of the icons in the unity bar? clicking and dragging is not working. using 11.10 ubu
[01:44] <netninja> itscool: click and drag, but drag it out sideways first.
[01:44] <L3d> hold mouse button pherhapns
[01:45] <neonflx2> so a while back i got banned because i was voicing my opinion about the direction is heading with unity, i was not belligerent or did i use any foul language, the reason i got banned was because the op did not agree with my point of view, reality is that unity  has created some controversy and for the op to banned me just because it shows that we are not as "open source" as we think we are
[01:45] <itscool> netmind, forgot to mention that I was dragging sideways too with no success.
[01:45] <netninja> neonflx2: who cares?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: sudo apt-get install packagename   12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1
[01:46] <neonflx2> you may not, in the long run you will
[01:46] <netninja> neonflx2: thanks for telling me what I will care about.
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: voicing opinions is offtopic here, this is support ONLY
[01:46] <netninja> neonflx2: what ubuntu does with their GUI is really the least of my worries, considering there are 4 billion alternatives.
[01:46] <L3d> are the ubuntu restrictive extras still needed after i have catalyst ,cause vaapi wont work  ?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: if you disobey the guidelines of the channel you will be ejected and/or banned
[01:47] <bhrandon> nvm I got it. ls -s -S
[01:47] <itscool> neonflx2: it is clear from your statement why you got banned. this channel is for helping people with their installations, not with debating the roadmap of ubuntu. there are other forums, mailing lists, developer channels and irc spots for that.
[01:47] <neonflx2> haha disobey, i like that term
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: so the op didn't ban you for disagreeing with unity in any way
[01:47] <neonflx2> feel like i'm a slave
[01:47] <gogeta> neonflx2: lol unity is fail but venting abought is kinda old hat
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: you agree to the terms when you join the channel, just stick to the simpe guides and you will be fine
[01:47] <bhrandon> #ubuntu-offtopic was referred to me for off-topic discussion Neonflx2
[01:48] <neonflx2> yes the op did not like my criticism of unity
[01:48] <L3d> one time i did install restrickive extras and my resolution and everything went wrong ..
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: you can feel like a slave if you want as long as you follow the rules of the channel, its quite simple
[01:48] <crazytrane> venting about unity is so, like uh 11.04
[01:48] <crazytrane> lol
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: maybe but criticism is also offtopic here
[01:48] <gogeta> neonflx2: yea it goes to the offtopic raging hear as i said is old news
[01:48] <netninja> neonflx2: no one is this stupid in real life.  unity vents don't have any place here.  that's all there is to it.
[01:48] <neonflx2> that is why mint is surpassing ubuntu, cause of the reluctant to acknowledge that unity is flaw
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: all non-support stuff is perfectly welcommed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:49] <netninja> neonflx2: and at the risk of feeding a troll, the obvious statement applies: if you don't like it here, go somewhere else.
[01:49] <randomuser> does installing gnome-power-manager no longer provide a gnome-power-manager gui ?
[01:49] <itscool> so back to the unity bar, if click and hold and drag sideways off the bar doesn't work, and i have installed ccsm. what are my options to get it to work so i can reorganize my icons?
[01:49] <L3d> good or bad to install restrickive extras after catalyst and the likes ?
[01:49] <neonflx2> not a troll im still using ubuntu
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> neonflx2: it's not at all, and if you think distrowatch is a good gauge, you are sadly mistaken
[01:49] <neonflx2> just stating the facts
[01:49] <KFP> ActionParsnip: Still stuck with "Kernel module nvidia missing". Any ideas?
[01:49] <raven> ffmpeg where to find .ffpresets files? x264 presets (veryslow, ...) missing
[01:49] <jsilva> Hi all, I want to install tinycorelinux inside ubuntu, but I can't find information about it. Any help?
[01:49] <gogeta> jsilva: do you mean in a vm
[01:49] <L3d> vainfo got u there too ?>
[01:49] <neonflx2> peace
[01:49] <gogeta> jsilva: tiny core is a distro
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> KFP: what if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:49] <netninja> neonflx2: your opinions about GUI design are hardly facts.
[01:50] <itscool> jsilva: install virtual box and then tiny core ontop of that
[01:50] <jsilva> gogeta: No, in the same disk, using the same ubuntu partition
[01:50] <gogeta> jsilva: that would explode your install
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> neoark: if you don't like unity/gnome, you can always switch to xfce, lxde, kde or another DE. Gnome is not the only desktop
[01:50] <netninja> itscool: are you logged in as a user, or as a guest?
[01:50] <itscool> jsilva: or reduce the size of your ubu partition and install tiny core in dual boot into the remaining new space you opened up.
[01:51] <L3d> sudo nano works ..
[01:51] <Kimble> I'm struggling to turn off boot services. I have smbd, winbind and nmbd in my init.d folder. I no longer want them to run on boot. What's the best way to do this?
[01:51] <itscool> netninja: as user.
[01:51] <gogeta> jsilva: you can vm it or use a seprate partation but you can but 2 os on the same partation
[01:51] <KFP> ActionParsnip: It then fails to restart X, saying "kernel module nvidia not found" and goes to terminal instead.
[01:51] <gogeta> cant put
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> KFP: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[01:52] <jsilva> gogeta: it is possible, but I am trying to point a custom entry in grub2 and is not working
[01:52] <gogeta> jsilva: even if you did the data would cruupt
[01:53] <gogeta> jsilva: oh you mean a furgal install
[01:53] <gogeta> jsilva: where tiny core is on a image file
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> jsilva: install virtualbox-ose  then download and MD5 test the tinycore iso and use it to boot in a new virtual system
[01:53] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: hes talking abought fugal install
[01:53] <itscool> Kimble: you can make a backup folder in there and move them into there. and reboot, that should likely do the trick.
[01:54] <jsilva> ActionParsnip: thanks but I don't want tinycore inside ubuntu, I want boot tinycore from ubuntu grub
[01:54] <Kimble> itscool: i guess that's one way :)
[01:54] <itscool> Kimble: problem is, tho, what depends on them. will the be satisfied and will your system hang because they aren't running?
[01:54] <L3d> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. what do i do next to get gecko to install ?
[01:55] <gogeta> jsilva: yea there grub script isnt very smart
[01:55] <jsilva> gogeta: :/
[01:55] <Kimble> itscool: I've disabled them manually while booted and nothing seems to complain, so hopefully things should be fine.
[01:55] <L3d> im trying to update wine with the added url but i cnt get past that
[01:55] <itscool> is there a unity config file that can be edited by hand to control the order of the icons?
[01:56] <gogeta> jsilva: ever run puppy its nearly the same but a bit more loaded
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> L3d: how did you add the wine ppa?
[01:56] <gogeta> jsilva: with mutch smarter installers
[01:56] <Kimble> Unless: I'm mounting a local cifs share usine fstab. Will uninstalling smbd, nmbd and winbind interfere with that?
[01:56] <itscool> kimble: sounds like you got the preliminary data you need to proceed with a mv to a backup folder.
[01:56] <L3d> copeyd in other sources
[01:56] <ldiamond> I used to love Ubuntu, however, 11.10 has Unity only and I hate it. What are the alternatives? (I tried Xfce, but it's far less functional than Gnome was on Ubuntu... speaking of media keys on kb and some other basic functionality or bugs)
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> L3d: did you use add-apt-repository ?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> L3d: or did you edit sources.list
[01:57] <anadon> i'm trying to print off a giant image from my standard printer.  How do I do this?
[01:57] <gogeta> ldiamond: xfce is abought as close as you can get
[01:57] <L3d> last one in settins
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> L3d: undo whatever you did, then in a terminal, run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> L3d: and you will have zero issues
[01:57] <ldiamond> So no plans to have a gnome2-like UI in Ubuntu?
[01:58] <gogeta> ldiamond: you can try mint with mate witch is a gnome 2 fork onto gtk3 but is still very early
[01:58] <L3d> giggity
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: you can use xfce, looks and smells like gnome2
[01:58] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip, I tried Xubuntu and it's a sub-par distro
[01:59] <gogeta> ldiamond: most ditros to me are sub par these days
[01:59] <crazytrane> ditto
[01:59] <jsilva> gogeta: is there a way to test grub2 files without rebooting?
[01:59] <gogeta> ldiamond: linux is so busy trying to change they forget it wasent broken
[02:00] <L3d> do i need third party developers repository and launchpad/rexbron?
[02:00] <ldiamond> gogeta, what distro do you use then?
[02:01] <gogeta> ldiamond: arch
[02:01] <itscool> jsilva: found this, long read, but describe what you want to do with tiny core. >>> http://gr8idea.info/os/tutorials/tiny-core/install.html
[02:01] <ldiamond> subpar as well?
[02:01] <gogeta> ldiamond: arch comes with a base kernel and a package manager
[02:01] <L3d> dont know where thay came from ,i think ubuntu games is supposed to be there
[02:01] <gogeta> ldiamond: you build it yourself
[02:01] <ldiamond> ugh, I don't have time for that
[02:02] <anadon> i'm trying to print off a giant image from my standard printer.  How do I do this?
[02:02] <gogeta> ldiamond: its very well documented if you can read and type ts easy
[02:02] <ldiamond> I used to run ubuntu 10.04. It was functional
[02:02] <itscool> ldiamond: you can also install gnome-desktop and that will give you a gnome2-like interface. i've got installed on mine.
[02:03] <ldiamond> in 11.10 isn't gnome-desktop giving you Unity?
[02:03] <L3d> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is this normaly in the other sources list ?
[02:03] <ldiamond> are you referring to gnome-panel package?
[02:03] <itscool> ldiamond: no
[02:03] <gogeta> ldiamond: lets hope when mate gets a bit less buggy ubuntu picks it up
[02:03] <gogeta> ldiamond: so we all get the gnome 2 ui back
[02:03] <L3d> Third party developers repository
[02:04] <itscool> ldiamond: look at the description in synaptic for the entry 'gnome-desktop', you'll drool again.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: its the same distro, just a different set of default apps, the underlying mechanics are 00% identical
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> 100%
[02:04] <gogeta> ldiamond: i think there is a ppa for mate for ubuntu
[02:05] <gogeta> ldiamond: note its still very early most thing probly whont work
[02:05] <netninja> will ubuntu run without a swapdisk?
[02:05] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip,  what distro are you refering to?
[02:05] <tofa> Hi I would like to update from ubuntu 10.04 32 bit to any release after and including 10.04 that is 64 bit, which my processor supports. I have a dual boot system. Is there anyway to do this from within ubuntu and thereby not disturb the dual boot?
[02:05] <Hilikus> does anyone know a way to update pulseaudio to 1.1? i can't find a ppa or anything for 11.10
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> netninja: yes
[02:05] <L3d> ActionParsnip what is normaly in the other sources list btw ?
[02:05] <gogeta> netninja: yes swap is kinda pointless on systems with alot of ram
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: xubuntu, its the same ubuntu, just uses xfce4 as the de instead of gnome
[02:05] <netninja> ActionParsnip: I think my suspend/hibernate issues are because I have no swapdisk, even though I attempted to install one.  How can I get the system to recognize the swap disk?
[02:05] <OerHeks> Hilikus, build it yourself ?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> L3d: the default repos
[02:05] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip, yes, but the default apps don't work well.
[02:06] <Hilikus> OerHeks: there's too many dependencies
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> netninja: you will need swap for hibernate
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: you can install gnome apps in xubuntu and they will run
[02:06] <netninja> ActionParsnip: so how do I get it to recognize?
[02:06] <L3d> can i get a picie ?
[02:06] <gogeta> ldiamond: you can install the aps you like after and remove the ones you dont
[02:06] <L3d> ill look a picture up on google
[02:06] <ldiamond> gogeta, one being gnome :p. At least it would handle the media keyboard
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> netninja: recognise what, the swap?
[02:07] <netninja> yes
[02:07] <raven> how to control cpu frequency by cmd
[02:07] <gogeta> ldiamond: one of the reasion i whent to arch to install the apps i whanted
[02:07] <netninja> ActionParsnip: am I to add the swapspace in fstab?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> netninja: you should have on
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> *one
[02:07] <netninja> I have a swapspace; it's not in use when I "mount" or "df -h"
[02:08] <L3d> no "other sources " is normaly on than i gues ?
[02:08] <gogeta> ldiamond: wg i whant xfce4 with pidgin firefox and mplayer
[02:08] <gogeta> eg
[02:08] <netninja> so, my question stands: how do I get the system to recognize the swapspace?
[02:08] <L3d> no getdeb.net gmaes
[02:08] <gogeta> ldiamond: so only those apps are installed
[02:08] <StepNjump> DarwinSurvivor sorry for not getting back to you. I was away. I just read what you wrote. Thank you.
[02:08] <L3d> for games ?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> netninja: do you have it defined in /etc/fstab
[02:09] <netninja> ActionParsnip: hence my question, "do I make sure it's added in /etc/fstab?" :P
[02:09]  * netninja checks
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> L3d: you can add the getdeb ppa with the deb on their site
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> netninja: the default install will have made one and added it in fstab
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> netninja: I am not aware of how you installed so cannot say for sure how YOUR setup is
[02:10] <L3d> im not shure how amny links were made with wine ...
[02:10] <OerHeks> netninja, swap not in use means ready, but not in use yet.
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> L3d: after you add the deb, run:  sudo apt-get update    and the site will work as needed
[02:11] <netninja> ActionParsnip: I have a line in fstab which says "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0"
[02:11] <netninja> OerHeks: I have no idea what that means
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> netninja: oh you used encryptfs?
[02:11] <netninja> OerHeks: oh, I getcha
[02:11] <anadon> i'm trying to print off a giant image from my standard printer.  How do I do this?
[02:11] <netninja> ActionParsnip: perhaps?  Not sure what that is
[02:11] <netninja> how about, what's the easiest way to get just a basic, nonencrpyted, non complicated swapspace so I can hibernate?
[02:12] <netninja> I have a 9gig partition ready for swap
[02:12] <L3d> ok i get it a litle ,hoping it will overwrite whaevr it did first ..
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> netninja: its a secure file system, you manually choose it at install time, it's not default
[02:12] <netninja> I didn't know swap could be so complicated
[02:12] <HQRaja> Know of any IRC client for Ubuntu that's as close to mIRC on Windows as it gets?
[02:12] <netninja> ActionParsnip: the only secure thing I picked was for my /home directory, not for this swap thing; regardless, I seem to have it on, so how might I fix my fugup? :/
[02:12] <ring2> HQRaja, xchat
[02:12] <L3d> so thaty did change after all heh
[02:13] <HQRaja> ring2: Using it right now but kinda feel some lack
[02:13] <ring2> HQRaja, lack of what?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> netninja: if you encrypt it, then it can be a bit more complex
[02:13] <HQRaja> ring2: Like the dead-simple alias/popups/scripting of mIRC for starters
[02:13] <OerHeks> netninja, no swap on an encrypted filesystem is a security measure. you don't want a burglar recreate your data.
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> netninja: maybe you need to run:  sudo swapon /dev/partitionname
[02:14]  * netninja checks, and thanks :)
[02:14] <HQRaja> But perhaps that's because I haven't really explored all the options of XChat yet?
[02:14] <netninja> I'd really like it to not be encrypted, the swapfile... I could care less.
[02:14] <itscool> netninja: sudo swapon -s
[02:14] <L3d> righto connecting :)
[02:14] <itscool> netninja: if that returns a result table your swap is active
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> netninja: encryptfs causes too many headaches imho
[02:15] <sp4z> anyone got bf2 working in ubuntu?
[02:15] <netninja> Parsnip: I only meant to encrypt my home directory
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> sp4z: what is bf2?
[02:15] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: all enc couses to many headackes lol
[02:15] <sp4z> battlefield 2
[02:15] <netninja> Parsnip: swapon: /dev/sda6: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[02:15] <L3d> ehh ehats this Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rexbron/bugfixes/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | sp4z
[02:15] <HQRaja> BTW speaking of swap...does one need swap with 4GB RAM, when one never even utilizes 3GB out of that?
[02:16] <ztag100> does wine really work well?
[02:16] <sp4z> already checked there - punkbuster doesn't work. wondering if anyone has it working via VM or something
[02:16] <gogeta> ztag100: when it fells like it
[02:16] <itscool> netninja: run less /etc/fstab and see if you even  have a swap partition
[02:16] <stinkfist> hi guys so
[02:16] <ztag100> gogeta thats what I heard
[02:16] <stinkfist> pinging is not working
[02:16] <ztag100> It works when it likes to
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> sp4z: it will perform badly in a VM
[02:16] <gogeta> sp4z: yes most anticheat does not work on wine being there pretty mutch rootkits
[02:17] <CaptAnon> How do I choose the right display in terminal?
[02:17] <netninja> itscool: I do, posted earlier, lemme do it again
[02:17] <stinkfist> can anyone help me with my wireless setup?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: details please
[02:17] <ztag100> hmm... how big do you guys think the stickers at the bottom of a computer are?
[02:17] <L3d> ill remove those lines first right ?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> CaptAnon: right display in what sense?
[02:17] <netninja> itscool: /dev/mapper/cryptswap none swap sw 0 0
[02:17] <itscool> stinkfist: use mtr, it's better than ping in many regards.
[02:18] <netninja> itscool et. al: but I didn't intend for it to be encrypted
[02:18] <sp4z> actionparsnip, gogeta: so pretty much have to run windows for it then?
[02:18] <raven> how to control cpu frequency by cmd
[02:18] <ztag100> I want to make one with the ubuntu logo instead
[02:18] <netninja> if I just remount it as /dev/sda6, would I be able to use it unencrypted?
[02:18] <CaptAnon> When im in Ctrl Alt F3
[02:18] <stinkfist> actionparsnip I downloaded the drivers wireless for my laptop
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> L3d: the ppa only supports natty, I suggest you remove it
[02:18] <gogeta> ztag100: wine had a relly nice relese for a wile but has sence gone downhill
[02:18] <stinkfist> it shows in my taskbard that im connected
[02:18] <CaptAnon> I want to open a program I need to choose a screen or something?
[02:18] <stinkfist> but when i open firefox it doesnt load pages
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> sp4z: yep, blame the devs for not suporting linux
[02:18] <ztag100> hmm.. good to know
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: which wifi chip?
[02:18] <stinkfist> Broadcomp
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:19] <itscool> netninja: remove that entry and then check your partition setup and see if you still have a partition set aside for swap. then if you do, turn it into swap with 'mkswap <device' and then issue the command 'swapon' to active it.
[02:19] <gogeta> sp4z: yea and anything dx11 will need windows anyways wines fails hard at dc11
[02:19] <gogeta> dx11
[02:19] <stinkfist> ill try
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: there is a native broadcom driver, you don't need anything manually downloading from the web
[02:19] <itscool> netninja: also, maybe you should update that entry to point to the swap partition itself.
[02:19] <CaptAnon> the terminal says "cannot open display"
[02:19] <stinkfist> it says network is unreachable
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> CaptAnon: is it a GUI app?
[02:20] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: anticheat is like a rootkit wine can never work with them kernel level hacks
[02:20] <klj613> how can i make any files uploaded by a specific user automatically have ownership theuser:www-data ? i asked this earlier not sure if it had any responses
[02:20] <CaptAnon> I think so.
[02:20] <netninja> itscool: I just edited fstab to be "/dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0" and I'm hoping this would work; does that seem right?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: sure but a native app will work well
[02:20] <netninja> itscool: assuming I'm right that sda6 is swap, which it is? :)
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | stinkfist
[02:20] <sp4z> gogeta, bf2 is dx9c
[02:20] <itscool> netninja: yeah that sounds great, now do swapon and then swapon -s to see if you succeeded.
[02:20] <stinkfist> im using ubuntu 10.04 i downloaded the drivers from the software center. Also I cant ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:20] <stinkfist> thank you ubottu
[02:20] <L3d> ok i added this line yeah another one ,sudo apt-add-repository ppa:rexbron/bugfixes .. gues thats all
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: can you ping the internal IP of your router?
[02:21] <gogeta> sp4z: it will run but punkbuster will not
[02:21] <itscool> stinkfist: are you using the same box to talk on irc with us?
[02:21] <netninja> itscool: rebooting
[02:21] <determinology> i neeed help on getting ubuntu R8168 driver
[02:21] <sp4z> yeah ok thanks
[02:21] <L3d> dont know why but vaapi demanded it
[02:21] <itscool> netninja: you didn't really have to do that. :)
[02:21] <stinkfist> erm Actionparsnip how can i find my internal ip. is it the local loop address?
[02:21] <raven> how to control cpu frequency by cmd
[02:21] <stinkfist> itscool no you see my internet works fine with ethernet
[02:22] <stinkfist> when i disconnect ethernet my wireless isnt working
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> stinkfist: no, it's the IP of the config page of the router, most home grade routers use <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:22] <itscool> stinkfist: oh ok. is your broadcom usb or pci or internal?
[02:22] <CaptAnon> display=1 or somthing like it I think?
[02:22] <stinkfist> alright i found it using show ip im going to try to ping it :) brb
[02:22] <gogeta> itscool: brodcom shoudl work out of the box
[02:22] <gogeta> should
[02:23] <itscool> gogeta: not always, i've found that with ubu i have had to reinstall it on many occasions
[02:23] <netninja> itscool: well, "swapon" and then "swapon -s" didn't work; "swapon" by itself demanded arguments, so I figured restarting was best
[02:23] <itscool> netninja: i should have mentioned to sudo it
[02:24] <gogeta> itscool: my old pcima on my c610 dell works out of the box
[02:24] <stinkfist> um its says network is unreachable when i try to ping my home grade routers
[02:24] <netninja> itscool: I did :)
[02:24] <netninja> itscool: well, now there is *no* swapfile
[02:24] <itscool> gogeta: depends on which broadcom it is then i reckon.
[02:25] <itscool> netninja: is the partition you told it, was it formatted as swap?
[02:25] <itscool> netninja: it must be a dedicated partition. can't be shared with something else.
[02:25] <itscool> do sudo mkswap <device>
[02:25] <netninja> itscool: it was once formatted for swap, I'll format it again, and yes, it's a 9gig all by itself (I have 8gb ram, so I went 9gb swapfile for hibernate)
[02:25]  * netninja formats
[02:26] <itscool> netninja: ie>> mkswap /dev/sda3
[02:26] <gogeta> netninja: lol 9gb swap
[02:26] <gogeta> netninja: hibernate does not use swap btw
[02:26] <netninja> gogets: I have 8gb ram; larger than ram is required for swap for hibernate.  why are you lulzing?
[02:26] <netninja> gogets: I and Parsnip think differently
[02:26] <itscool> netninja: dear god man. I hibernate with a 4gb swap and loads of spare room left over. what you are you hibernating?
[02:27] <tofa> Hi, I need to update from ubuntu 10.04 32 bit to a 64 bit ubuntu OS is there someway of doing this from within ubuntu?
[02:27] <netninja> itscool: do yu understand what hibernate does?
[02:27] <gogeta> itscool: i hibernate with 1gb swap
[02:27] <gogeta> itscool: my system has 8gb ram
[02:27] <itscool> netninja: yes i do
[02:27] <itscool> netninja: i know the difference between it and sleeping as well
[02:27] <netninja> oh neat.  that's great.
[02:27] <netninja> so do I
[02:28]  * itscool leaps for joy!
[02:28] <stinkfist> itscool my broadcom is internal. i think. it came with my laptop.
[02:28] <netninja> so "what I'm hibernating" isn't really a valid question, then, is it?
[02:28] <keithzg> tofa: not so easily, but as long as you keep a separate /home partition (or at least back it up) it shouldn't be too hard to just reinstall but have everything act like nothing much happened ;)
[02:28] <netninja> since it writes RAM to disk?
[02:28] <stinkfist> also Actionparsnip i cant ping my home grade routers
[02:28] <netninja> so, what's being hibernated will change every time...
[02:28] <gogeta> netninja: hibernate is a snapshot of the whole running prosses and sent to disk
[02:28] <L3d> its wierd i have extras and 3rd  pary but its all updates :)
[02:29] <tofa> keithzg: So how would I do that?
[02:29] <gogeta> netninja: maybe your thinking sleep thats to ram
[02:29] <netninja> gogets: yes, you're right, so... what does that have to do with "what are you hibernating?"
[02:29] <itscool> netninja: it is because i'm curious as to what you have that comprises 9gb of state that needs saving so your can turn your machine off, ship it to jupiter station 2 and restart it later after the red dwarf docks with port authority there. :) dude. I am a cat.
[02:29]  * netninja bangs head off desk
[02:29] <netninja> I know what sleep is
[02:29] <netninja> I didn't say it writes to ram
[02:29] <netninja> I said it writes ram to disk
[02:29] <L3d> the update works from the console cool ,thnx actionman :D
[02:30] <L3d> lol
[02:30] <gogeta> netninja: yea but not in the fasion you think
[02:30] <netninja> gogets: the only thing I'm not aware of is *where* it writes to disk (swap vs fs), which really, I don't care.
[02:30] <L3d> some real action ..
[02:30] <gogeta> netninja: just whats running
[02:30] <gogeta> netninja: it goes directly into the fs
[02:31] <netninja> gogeta: I don't care what fashion it writes, I'd like it to work again; it stopped working when I upgraded my ram from 2gb to 8gb, and apparently my swap got fucked up as well.
[02:31] <netninja> I'm less concerned with the specifics of something indirectly related to the actual problem, as I am to fixing the problem.
[02:31] <gogeta> netninja: oh its broken?
[02:31] <L3d> laters pps and thnx for the help ,cant wait for the new version ,gona try buying it with a mag
[02:32] <netninja> so getting hung up on where it writes to, I don't really care as much about as fixing the fact that it just *does* *not* *hibernate*
[02:32] <toxed> why dosent banshee close on xfce wen exited upon ?
[02:32] <gogeta> netninja: hibernate can be quite large in some cases
[02:32] <L3d> do i need ubuntu server for my dual xeon server hpx4000
[02:32] <itscool> netninja: easiest thing to do is back up the home partition, and create an install file from your synaptic. reload your ubu of choice. drop in your home partition during install and reload from  your synaptic file aftewards. but you won't discover anything that way.
[02:32] <gogeta> netninja: maybe to big and you run out of fs space
[02:32] <CaptAnon> Can anyone help me open a program in terminal Can not open display
[02:33] <netninja> gogeta: well, I have 40gb available on the fs, with just 8gig of stuff on the disk, an 8gig swap (which is now disabled), and 8gig of ram
[02:33] <gogeta> netninja: humm
[02:33] <netninja> so unless 8gig of ram plus 8gig of files running very few system files takes up more than 40gb, that's not the issue, I'm afraid
[02:33] <e75> how can i change the device for sound output from the cli?
[02:33] <netninja> yeah, humm :(
[02:34] <L3d> how does ubuntu server work ,is it bette for my server hpx4000 ?
[02:34] <netninja> again, this all works fine until I upgraded to 8gb of ram from 2; ram checked out fine
[02:34] <L3d> faster than/
[02:34] <itscool> L3d: are you using your machine for file serving or as a workstation or as a gaming platform?
[02:35] <L3d> moslty games but i dl allot and make some funky music ehh
[02:35] <L3d> damn my spellngs bad ..
[02:36] <L3d> jsut think there are diff drivers like windows :s
[02:36] <Artemis3> netninja, did you do memtest after installing the ram?
[02:36] <netninja> yes
[02:36] <itscool> L3d: then you don't want 'server' that for things like file serving, apache and other stuff of an enterprise network nature. stick with the standard ubuntu for gaming.
[02:36] <Artemis3> netninja, you let a whole pass go perfectly?
[02:36] <netninja> Artemis3: just a few hours ago as well
[02:36] <netninja> Artemis3: yes, took almost 3 hours
[02:37] <itscool> L3d: no, but if you are having driver issues please let us know as we might be able to help you solve the problems. :)
[02:37] <L3d> dont wana begin talking about windows here hehe
[02:37] <Artemis3> netninja, actually i have 8g of ram and no swap so that shouldn't be a problem
[02:38] <itscool> L3d: oh, so you are finally fed up with bg trying to get you ready w8 and now you want to go Ubuntu? Yeah just do the standard desktop edition. you'll be fine.
[02:38] <L3d> well im doingthat survay thing with the upd manager ,and i like this cjat altho it is very busy :p
[02:38] <netninja> woah, crazy! - since blowing up my swap just a minute ago, now Hibernate isn't even an option any more
[02:38] <itscool> don't bother with 64bit support, it's still weak. unless someone here says otherwise.
[02:38] <Artemis3> netninja, ok, if you want to hibernate, as opposed to suspend, your swap must be a little bigger than your ram
[02:38] <L3d> aargh chat
[02:39] <lhasa> personally i just turn off the monitor :|
[02:39] <L3d> im on 32 with one or 2 64 pci sluts
[02:39] <somsip> itscool: otherwise
[02:39] <itscool> L3d: well there you go, someone says otherwise.
[02:39] <OerHeks> itscool next release will be 64 bit recommended
[02:39] <netninja> Artemis3: yes, I'm aware of that, and yet, people in this forum keep saying that and then the opposite of that; I've always believed that was true
[02:39] <somsip> itscool: :)
[02:40] <netninja> Artemis3: however, there are plenty of people in this channel that say this is not true with apparent self-examples :(
[02:40] <itscool> somsip: OerHeks: you guys saying the flash issue with 64 bit has been resolved?
[02:40] <Artemis3> netninja, you swap should something like 8,1g, or perhaps 8,01g
[02:40] <OerHeks> Artemis3 is right, swap needs to be bigger than ram to store more pointers
[02:40] <L3d> know what i like ,no more bad driver updates and the likes with this xfx card weeee
[02:41] <L3d> seesya
[02:41] <somsip> itscool: just connected here and it worked
[02:41] <somsip> itscool: gah...http://www.wechoosethemoon.org/
[02:41] <OerHeks> itscool, no, 64 bit will be recommended, not about flash at all.
[02:41] <netninja> Artemis3: I'm formatting it for swap now at 9gb.
[02:41] <L3d> otherwise
[02:41] <Artemis3> netninja, should do.
[02:41] <OerHeks> flash is dying anyway
[02:42] <yogu> why?
[02:42] <itscool> somsip: OerHeks: I'll keep that in mind when i build my next beastie as my last beastie died 3 days ago and now i'm using this old sempron frankie.
[02:42] <L3d> went to the movie apollo 18 a day before my birth day ,wen it came out =)
[02:42] <quixotedon> why can't we use novell moonlight on the latest version of firefox??
[02:43] <somsip> itscool: isn't there a thing about Semprons not being great with 64bit OS, or did I fream it...
[02:43] <L3d> my resolution is so high ,i need a break too lolz
[02:44] <somsip> *dream
[02:44] <xangua> quixotedon: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ you can from there
[02:45] <L3d> google is in everything with its statistics ,how come ?
[02:45] <L3d> do i have a google lso ?
[02:47] <L3d> so its like some streaming thing ?
[02:47] <L3d> i lost it all with the changes in winamp except somafm.com
[02:47] <quixotedon> xangua: thanks a bunch
[02:48] <the_truth> hello
[02:49] <OerHeks> i thought winamp is for windows, L3d
[02:49] <the_truth> does anyone have a reccomendation for anti-virus?
[02:49] <the_truth> or some type of security?
[02:49] <xangua> !antivirus | the_truth
[02:50] <OerHeks> iptables will be enough the_truth
[02:50] <L3d> weeknie
[02:51] <the_truth> thanx for the help
[02:51] <netninja> weird - the swap partition needs to be formatted, isn't loaded as swap right now, but I can't format it since something has a lock on it.  I'm booting into livecd to format the partition and fstab is already updated to reflect the swap on startup
[02:51] <the_truth> is there any way to recover files after a reformatting?
[02:52] <itscool> the_truth: in linux you can use photorec from another linux like a live cd, and on windows there are loads of options.
[02:53] <the_truth> the files were on a previous ubuntu
[02:54] <itscool> the_truth: meaning, you are on the new ubuntu which was installed ontop of the old ubuntu?
[02:54] <ilearnz> Hello
[02:54] <nomad> ls
[02:54] <HQRaja> rm
[02:54] <the_truth> i had made a copy of the partition and it got erased
[02:55] <L3d_> meh
[02:55] <ilearnz> any1 know how to fix microphones(built in) i thinking drivers arent here or w.e i not sure
[02:55] <L3d_> so can i watch cartoon network and adult swim on this ?
[02:55] <itscool> the_truth: did you write anything to the erased partition yet?
[02:56] <the_truth> well ubuntu now is the whole hdd
[02:56] <itscool> ilearnz: under sound preferences. is the mic unmuted? if so, in terminal try 'alsamixer' to unmute the mic.
[02:56] <MoeJoebloe> Hey guy's saw this spammed earlier what the heck is it? http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[02:56] <HQRaja> So you have already installed the OS on the partition after erasing it?
[02:56] <itscool> the_truth: how long has it been
[02:56] <the_truth> days
[02:56] <the_truth> 3
[02:57] <itscool> ugh, you are looking at a long time like maybe 5 days if you stop right now and use another method of accessing the system to recover the files just recover 90% chance of gibberish.
[02:58] <OerHeks> please don'y spam MoeJoebloe nice try though
[02:58] <the_truth> how would i recover any of it?
[02:59] <itscool> on linux like say from another linux system with drive mounted into it you could do it with 'photorec'
[02:59] <jtokarchuk> someone lose a drive?
[02:59] <the_truth> where can i get that?
[03:00] <jtreminio> Hello - how do I unmap CTRL + Q to close the current application?
[03:00] <itscool> or you could put the drive into a windows machine and use runtime.org's recovery software on it.
[03:00] <the_truth> I  lost a partition by re-installing ubuntu
[03:00] <jtokarchuk> jtreminio, open dash, run keyboard, change it in shortcut
[03:00] <jtokarchuk> s
[03:01] <jtreminio> jtokarchuk, attempting to remap ALT + Q in that gui closes the gui.
[03:01] <jtokarchuk> jtreminio, ironic, eh
[03:01] <quixotedon> xangua: moonlight could not be installed because it's not compatible with firefox 8.0
[03:01] <SultansElephant> partioning is for nerds
[03:01] <quixotedon> xangua: this is what i've been experiencing actually :)
[03:01] <SultansElephant> wipe it babby
[03:02] <itscool> the_truth: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[03:02] <cane99> Need to extended a network from a drop that goes back to my switch, issue is they had a pair of wireless device devices what were super old that was extending it.
[03:02] <cane99> I'd like put one wireless router and patch it to the drop and plug the another 50yrds aways that extends the network.
[03:02] <the_truth> jtokarchuk I lost all my data after re-installing Ubuntu and would like to know how to recover them
[03:03] <jtokarchuk> the_truth: how important was this data
[03:03] <itscool> the_truth: from terminal do> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[03:03] <itscool> the_truth: then follow instructions from that website.
[03:03] <funnyfingers> any plans for Ubunto to use systemd?
[03:03] <the_truth> jtokarchuk on a scale of 1-10 a 8.5
[03:04] <jtokarchuk> if it's that important, you should probably send it for recovery. Using it right now is burying your files deeper.
[03:04] <AdminSetup> Hi...I want an application to run continuously....Though it crashes I want it to restart...Any idea to what to do ?
[03:05] <the_truth> i also believe that the root user security loop hole was taken advantage of too
[03:05] <the_truth> how can i be sure it wasnt?
[03:06] <xxiao> anyone used fcoe-utils under ubuntu?
[03:07] <crazytrane> AdminSetup, check out monit
[03:07] <the_truth> i also believe that the root user security loop hole was taken advantage of too
[03:07] <zZGz_> wait what
[03:07] <xxiao> the fcoe initiator on 11.10 is not working at all
[03:07] <AdminSetup> crazytrane : What is it ????
[03:09] <funnyfingers> AdminSetup - you can have a cron job that reads the PID file and then checks for that pid.  Also it could just run the init.d script for the status and react accordingly.
[03:10] <netninja> ok, how can I get rid of "cryptsetup"?
[03:10] <netninja> I don't want that on my laptop, it's causing way too many problems
[03:10] <jonathon_> Strange flash issue. 10.04, Chrome and Chromium will not play embedded flash videos (on Facebook specifically.) Reads "need update." Will play videos on youtube. Everything works in Firefox.
[03:10] <crazytrane> AdminSetup: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/11/monit-install-config/
 Thanks... ;)
[03:14] <crazytrane> no prob, monit is pretty sweet
[03:16] <the_truth> How do i get photorec to run?
[03:20] <cane99> Need to extend my network in a warehouse. I have a drop in the middle of the warehouse but not one 50yrds away.
[03:20] <matin> hello
[03:20] <cane99> Someone had some very old AP's but now they aren't working
[03:21] <the_truth> How do I get photorec to run i cant get it too run
[03:21] <bowecho> the_truth:  I would recommend reading this link off of their site: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[03:21] <cane99> anyone setup wireless bridge in here?
[03:21] <bowecho> It will walk you through it step by step
[03:21] <matin> does anyone know how to set up svn on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:22] <matin> I'm having some troubles, if someone could help me
[03:22] <the_truth> I cant get it too run it says cannot find dile
[03:22] <the_truth> file
[03:24] <the_truth> Ubuntu is linux correct? Not OSx
[03:25] <mazda01> the_truth, ah, yes
[03:25] <beatbreaker> the_truth, lol
[03:25] <the_truth> is there any reason I wouldnt be able to access or add to my base file system?
[03:26] <beatbreaker> the_truth, what do you mean? on boot?
[03:26] <the_truth> im new to this im sorry but i need help and dont care if i look like a noob
[03:26] <beatbreaker> the_truth, please explain the full problem
[03:26] <the_truth> i mean from click n drag too the file system
[03:27] <aeon-ltd> the_truth: because you don't have permission to if it's outside your /home
[03:27] <aeon-ltd> the_truth: for example the stuff in /etc /usr
[03:27] <beatbreaker> so you're in ubuntu, and you click and drag a folder form the desktop to somewhere else, and it doesn't copy?
[03:27] <matin> so does anyone know how to set up subversion?
[03:27] <the_truth> The whole problem is im trying to recover files from my previous version of ubuntu and Im goin crazy tryin ta figure it out
[03:27] <mazda01> the_truth, ubuntu runs on the linux kernel where as OSX runs on XNU which has with much of BSD's code in the kernel
[03:28] <beatbreaker> matin, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=setup+subversion
[03:28] <matin> funny
[03:28] <aeon-ltd> matin: try #svn
[03:28] <matin> i meant that i need help
[03:28] <mazda01> the_truth, check out a live cd like system rescue which has dd_rescue on it. very cool stuff
[03:29] <the_truth> photorec system rescue ahhhh how do i do all this?
[03:29] <mazda01> the_truth, i personally have a 16GB usb stick which has multi-boot on it which allows me to boot into ubuntu, system rescue, amongst other things. it's great for data recovery
[03:30] <mazda01> the_truth, just many many others before you learned how to do it. Use google and start reading.
[03:30] <the_truth> I have been.... *sigh F(_)[K
[03:31] <Flannel> the_truth: Please mind the language, thanks.
[03:32] <the_truth> my bad frustrated!
[03:32] <mazda01> the_truth, ok, take a deep breath. LOL  I will link you to a great tutorial. let me find it.
[03:32] <Flannel> !undelete | the_truth
[03:33] <StepNjump> Does anyone know how to connect to this server here through weechat-curses?
[03:33] <SultansElephant> i think the_truth should get credit for his ascii like filters
[03:33] <matin> ok so no one is responding on #svn
[03:33] <mazda01> SultansElephant, i agree. LOL
[03:33] <Flannel> the_truth: Except don't put a lot of faith in those working.  But it is theoretically possible.  First thing you need to do is ABSOLUTELY STOP using the drive in question.
[03:33] <Flannel> beatbreaker: LMGTFY is not acceptable in this channel.
[03:33] <mazda01> the_truth, YEAP, listen to funnel for sure! stop accessing the disk completely
[03:34] <Flannel> matin: What are you having trouble with?
[03:34] <matin> permissions
[03:34] <matin> & well setting it up
[03:34] <matin> haha
[03:34] <the_truth> Thanx... N thats this drive could i clear the part that the partition was on?
[03:34] <matin> Flannel: i followed tutorials
[03:34] <matin> and it still wasn't working
[03:34] <Flannel> matin: Are you following a guide?  Are you trying to set up a server? just to use it as a client?
[03:34] <beatbreaker> Flannel, sorry
[03:34] <matin> I'm setting up a server
[03:34] <mazda01> the_truth, you will want to use system rescue to create an "image" of the drive, then you will fiddle with that to see what data you can recover. this way , you aren't accessing the disk BUT only that one time to create an image with dd_rescue
[03:34] <Flannel> matin: Alright, which tutorial? just so I know what steps they're having you go through
[03:35] <mazda01> the_truth, go to the other channel, much easier to help ya
[03:36] <stepnjump2> ok, nevermind... I found it
[03:37] <stepnjump2> This is a test
[03:37] <stepnjump2> Anybody familiar with weechat
[03:37] <matin> Flannel, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-subversion-with-web-access-on-ubuntu/
[03:38] <aeon-ltd> StepNjump: they are in #weechat :)
[03:38] <netninja> can anyone help me uninstall cryptsetup?  I apparently installed it by accident and I feel like it's causing all kinds of problems
[03:38] <J101> Does anyone know how to move the window controls to the right side instead of the left. I think I'm in Gnome panel, but Unity is still installed because everythig broke and I had to reinstall when I tried removing it
[03:39] <J101> the close button, etc
[03:39] <giiker> anyone knows how to transfer file from a Mac to ubuntu?
[03:39] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  In general howtogeek is a horrible place for accurate tutorials (for Debian based systems, they tend to do things the RPM based way), but this one looks pretty accurate (mostly because its straightforward).  What steps are you having trouble with? or just "get to end, stuff don't work"?
[03:40] <netninja> giiker: can you mount the machd on the local machine?
[03:40] <matin> haha ok Flannel
[03:40] <netninja> giiker: if they're seperate machines and you just need to move some files, use dropbox :)
[03:40] <matin> well now i just tried to import, svn import /home/fouad/public_html file:///triumph
[03:40] <giiker> I tried the T mode, but apparently I need somepackages to read the MAC filesystem
[03:40] <matin> svn server is triumph on root
[03:41] <matin> when i try to import
[03:41] <giiker> matin: the file I need is 6 GB
[03:41] <matin> svn: Can't open file '/triumph/db/fs-type': Permission denied
[03:41] <netninja> giiker: you can mount easily a linuxfs on the mac, and transfer it that way
[03:42] <netninja> (I'm assuming they're networked?)
[03:42] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  That makes sense, now that I take a second look at that tutorial.    Do you want/need the apache browsing ability?
[03:42] <matin> this is my first time using subversion
[03:42] <giiker> netninja: you mean with nfs maybe?
[03:42] <matin> my objective is to subversion my website
[03:42] <netninja> giiker: what is your linux filesystem?
[03:43] <netninja> giiker: and are both machines networked, as in, visible to each other on the network?
[03:43] <giiker> netninja: ext4
[03:43] <Flannel> matin: Right.  So, you're already running apache on this machine (or don't mind running it if you're not already)?
[03:43] <matin> yeah
[03:43] <matin> it's ubuntu 10.04
[03:43] <netninja> giiker: http://okomestudio.net/biboroku/?p=1429
[03:43] <netninja> giiker: try that
[03:43] <giiker> netninja: I can netwrok them together
[03:44] <Flannel> matin: Alright, just a couple more questions.  Do you intend for this to be local-LAN only? or visible from the outside world?
[03:45] <matin> outside world
[03:45] <matin> i have that set up
[03:45] <matin> http://playtriumph.tk/
[03:45] <Flannel> matin: over http or https or both?
[03:45] <giiker> netninja: reading it now, thanks!!
[03:45] <matin> i have no idea
[03:45] <matin> if you could please explain the purpose of hem
[03:45] <matin> them
[03:45] <matin> i understand https is secure
[03:47] <Hilarie> what would cause uptime to show high numbers while top doesn't show anything is using much cpu?
[03:48] <Flannel> matin: Well, currently you're serving stuff over http but not https.  The only thing about this with regard to your svn is it means your passwords would be transmitted in plaintext.
[03:48] <matin> meh, nothing too important
[03:49] <matin> ill just stick with http for now
[03:49] <Flannel> matin: I suggest you make sure to use a different svn password than your regular user account password.  Just be congizant of it :)
[03:50] <matin> lol
[03:50] <tr3es> How do I change the size for the top bar in Ubuntu 11.10?
[03:50] <Flannel> matin: So, lets make this work.  From that tutorial, I think you have a /svn directory, is this true?
[03:50] <matin> YEAH
[03:50] <matin> oops
[03:50] <matin> yeah*
[03:51] <netninja> wow
[03:51] <Flannel> matin: Alright, lets go ahead and delete that.  We have to re-create the repository anyway, so the least we can do is do it in a non-obnoxious location.
[03:51] <matin> sure
[03:51] <netninja> no matter what I do, I cannot seem to salvage this ubuntu install to get it to hibernate, suspend, or use a swapfile
[03:51] <matin> I'm also new to linux
[03:51] <matin> …so how do i do that?
[03:51]  * netninja contemplates reformatting/reinstalling
[03:51] <Flannel> matin: I'll come back to that, give me a sec.
[03:51] <matin> sure
[03:52] <Flannel> matin: Do you have /var on a separate (large) partition, because you're expecting to put a lot of stuff in /var/www? or do we just have one partition with everything on it?
[03:52] <matin> well
[03:52] <matin> i moved html directory from /var/www
[03:52] <matin> to /home/fouad/public_html
[03:52] <Flannel> matin: ... why did you do that?
[03:53] <matin> idk
[03:53] <tr3es> How do I change the size for the top bar in Ubuntu 11.10? Anyone?
[03:53] <netninja> matin: are you planning on using this system with a lot of other people, or just yourself?
[03:53] <matin> sorry tries, i don't use ubuntu
[03:53] <matin> netninja, by myself
[03:53] <Flannel> matin: No worries, everyone is new at some point :)
[03:53] <netninja> matin: was there a need to move this directory?
[03:53] <matin> netninja, nope :)
[03:54] <matin> seemed like a good idea
[03:54] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  I'm not going to deal with that at the moment, but go ahead and pastebin the output of `df -h` (pastebin is http://planet.ubuntu.com/, you paste output, hit 'submit' then give the url here for us to look at)
[03:54] <netninja> matin: and what are you trying to do exactly?  like, what are you using the /var/www/html or /home/you/whatever directory for, just your apache, right?
[03:54] <Flannel> matin: Er, sorry. paste.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <matin> netninja yeah
[03:55] <matin> and it's working
[03:55] <matin> http://playtriumph.tk
[03:55] <matin> Flannel, any directory?
[03:55] <netninja> matin: sorry, I guess I"m confused as to your specific problem?
[03:55] <Flannel> matin: just `df -h`
[03:55] <Flannel> netninja: Setting up subversion server.
[03:55] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761225/
[03:56] <matin> netninja, I'm trying to set up an svn
[03:56] <matin> i guess this is one of the drawbacks of learning coding on webhosts
[03:56] <Flannel> matin: Alright, so we've just got everything in /, which is fine.  We're still going to put /svn in /var though, because that's where it belongs.  (There is no standard here, other than /var for variable sized data)
[03:56] <netninja> matin: you're setting up svn into your html directory for your website?
[03:56]  * netninja shuts up, Flannel obviously has this one :)
[03:56] <matin> lol
[03:57] <matin> ok so how do i move it
[03:57] <matin> just svnadmin?
[03:57] <Flannel> matin: Personally, I made a /var/devel/ which I then put /svn/ and other things in, but you're free to just create it in /var/svn/
[03:57] <matin> i cd'd into var
[03:57] <matin> then i just do svnadmin create /svn?
[03:58] <Flannel> matin: No, we're not moving, we're going to delete the old one: `sudo rm -r /svn` (Be very careful with that, you don't want a space in between '/' and 'svn')
[03:58] <Flannel> matin: No
[03:58] <matin> alright deleted
[03:58] <matin> lol yeah deleting / would be pretty bad
[03:58] <Resistance> Flannel:  PM for a sec?
[03:59] <Flannel> Resistance: Always.
[03:59] <Flannel> matin: Alright, now go ahead and make a svn folder, sudo mkdir /var/svn/ if you want it in /var/svn/ (for example, mine is /var/devel/svn/)
[04:00] <matin> alright
[04:00] <matin> i just stuck with /var/svn
[04:00] <SachinDey> I installed Ocelot yesterday and i don't see the GRUB before it startup, Grub   did install
[04:01] <Flannel> matin: That's fine.  Ok.  So, in our head we realize we have to update the apache config to point there, which we'll do in a minute.  Right now, I need to ask: Is this going to be your only svn repository? or do you think you'll have an immediate need for more than one?
[04:01] <Resistance> SachinDey:  if there's no other OSes, you wont see grub usually
[04:01] <matin> nope
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> SachinDey: if you hold shift at boot, do you see grub then?
[04:01] <matin> only this one
[04:01] <Flannel> matin: We can add more later, of course, so you're not really locked in, but we can do it for "1" now or for "many" now (with a little bit more work)
[04:01] <Flannel> matin: Alright, good.
[04:02] <Flannel> matin: Alright, I'd normally say we're ready to create it, but before, I feel compelled to ask: did you change the default user/group that apache runs as?
[04:02] <matin> ...
[04:02] <matin> is there a way to check?
[04:02] <Flannel> matin: this would consist of replacing `www-data` with $something-else in your apache config.
[04:03] <matin> i feel as if a tutorial told me to
[04:03] <Flannel> matin: This is why I asked :)  Also, did I mention howtogeek is a rotten place for tutorials yet? :)
[04:03] <matin> haha
[04:04] <SachinDey> I see it now, thanks ActionParship
[04:04] <SachinDey> Its just a solo linux machine, Resistance
[04:04] <Flannel> matin: If you didn't change anything, /etc/apache2/envvars would list it, BUT since you may have hardcoded it, we'll need to probably check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.  So, the command to do that:
[04:05] <matin> nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[04:05] <Flannel> matin: Nah, we'll use grep, it's easier!
[04:05] <matin> ah ok
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> SachinDey: if its only Ubuntu then Grub won't show as there isn't really much need, you can use the shift trick if you need recovery mode or an older kernel to boot
[04:05] <matin> so just sudo grep /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[04:06] <Flannel> matin: Let me pause this, because this is a teaching moment.
[04:06] <matin> sure
[04:07] <Flannel> matin: So, `sudo` is only used when you need elevated permissions.  MOST (not all, but probably 99%) config files are world readable, so there's no reason to sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf (unless you intend to change something) or sudo grep /etc/whatever
[04:07] <matin> oh
[04:07] <SachinDey> One of the good thing about Ocelot is, the 10 seconds start up
[04:08] <Flannel> matin: Its not the end of the world, most of the time sudo X will work just fine, but it can cause problems, and certainly can lead to accidental changes :)
[04:08] <matin> ah ok
[04:08] <Flannel> matin: anyway, the command you can pastebin the output to is: grep User /etc/apache2/apache2.conf && grep Group /etc/apache2/apache2.conf && grep www-data /etc/apache2/envvars
[04:08] <matin> thank you
[04:08] <Flannel> matin: All on one line (command1 && command2 && command3 means 'do command1, then if it has no errors, do command2, and the same with command3)
[04:09] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761237/
[04:09] <bowikaxu_> hello, anyone who can recommend a tutorial, doc, forum, etc ... on ubuntu orchestra server?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> SachinDey: if boot time impresses you, try xpud. Boots in 3 seconds here
[04:09] <matin> oh
[04:09] <bowikaxu_> can't create node servers :-S
[04:09] <DroidInc> can i use grid with gnome3?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: sure, enable it
[04:09] <Flannel> matin: So that command looked first for the string 'User' in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, then it looked for 'Group' in the same file, and then the last command looked for 'www-data' in /etc/apache2/envvars
[04:09] <DroidInc> under compiz?
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: yes, in ccsm
[04:10] <Flannel> matin: The first two told me you haven't hard coded the values (theyre still ${APACHE_RUN_USER} and ${APACHE_RUN_GROUP}, respectively) and the last one told me you haven't changed the defaults for those settings either.
[04:11] <Ed_Money> when upgrading to 11.10, something went wrong and now my computer boots up to the GNU GRUB screen. I can run "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-12-generic in recovery mode" and see that my home directory looks to be mostly in tact. How can I fix my machine so it boots up to 11.10 or the previous version?
[04:11] <the_hulk> how i can share a large file upto 2 GB with my peer?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> the_hulk: samba or ftp or sftp will do it
[04:12] <DroidInc> ActionParsnip: its enabled but the key bindings dont work anyway to get em to?
[04:12] <bowikaxu_> anyone with orchestra server knowledge?
[04:13] <Flannel> matin: Still with me?  Or confused as heck?  (Take your time, just want to make sure you're not looking at the screen dumbfounded)
[04:13] <the_hulk> ActionParsnip, ok
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: are you using unity?
[04:13] <DroidInc> gnome3
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: Unity is a shell for gnome 3
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: so if you use unity you will also be using gnome 3
[04:14] <matin> Flannel, sorry had to get up for a second
[04:14] <Flannel> matin: No worries.
[04:14] <matin> I'm good :)
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace    does it activate?
[04:15] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  So, the point of that was to figure out what user and group apache runs as.  You're still default, which means it runs as www-data:www-data.
[04:15] <roasted> hello! I am unable to unmount my sd card. It just sits there for... well... forever. Literally. GParted, disk utility, etc. I'm also experiencing issues with this sd card in my phone. I was trying to pop it in my laptop to do a file system check but I can't unmount it to initiate the FS check. Any ideas?
[04:15] <DroidInc> killed my gnome3
[04:15] <DroidInc> but now my grid keybindngs work
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: you just need to reload the WM so it rereads the config
[04:15] <matin> Flannel: right
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> DroidInc: Gnome was untouched, only compiz changed
[04:16] <Flannel> matin: Now that we know that, we want to make /var/svn/ owned by www-data:www-data (because the apache user is going to be how we interact with it): sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/svn/
[04:16] <matin> alright done
[04:16] <DroidInc> cant alt f2 and no terminal open =X
[04:17] <roasted> this sd card is driving me crazy...
[04:17] <Flannel> matin: Now, we're ready to create our svn repository.  Again, we want to do this as our apache user.  So we'll use sudo to open a shell as our apache user, then move to our subversion directory, then make a repository.  What name do you want to give this repository?
[04:17] <roasted> once I forcibly unmount it, it wont come back unless I restart my laptop. awesome
[04:18] <Ed_Money> how can I back up my home directory in recovery mode?
[04:18] <matin> triumph
[04:18] <matin> Flannel: triumph
[04:19] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  So, `sudo -u www-data -i` (it likely won't ask for your password, but if it does, remember, it's YOUR password)
[04:19] <DroidInc> how do i reload gnome wm now
[04:20] <Flannel> matin: then you'll see probably nothing but a `$` prompt.  You're essentially logged in as apache right now, you can probably `ls` and see your site's files.  So we want to change to our subversion directory, `cd /var/svn/`
[04:20] <Flannel> matin: and then create our repository: `svnadmin create triumph`
[04:20] <matin> when i did ls
[04:20] <Flannel> matin: sure
[04:20] <matin> it says ls: cannot open directory .: Permission denied
[04:21] <Flannel> matin: Oh, this could be due to the fact that you moved it to your homedir.
[04:21] <StepNjump> matin you may need to chown
[04:21] <StepNjump> matin go on your terminal and type ls -al
[04:21] <Flannel> matin: You can cd /var/svn/ and `ls` successfully though, right? (it'll be empty, but it wont error)
[04:21] <matin> sudo chown www-data:www-data /home/fouad/public_html
[04:22] <Flannel> matin: No, don't do that.
[04:22] <StepNjump> Oh sorry Flannel, I didn't realize you were helping him
[04:22] <matin> oops i just did that :P
[04:22] <Flannel> matin: That's alright.  It gave you a "you're not allowed" message anyway, because you're www-data, right?
[04:22] <matin> yeah Flannel
[04:22] <matin> i can cd into svn and ls
[04:22] <matin> i mean /var/svn
[04:22] <Flannel> matin: (even if you did it as your user, we can fix it later)
[04:23] <Flannel> matin: right.  So, `svnadmin create triumph`  (we could have just did `svnadmin create /var/svn/triumph` instead of cd etc too, but this is obviously more educational :)
[04:23] <Northwoods> When i run localhost , it says Forbidden , you dont' have access to /
[04:23] <matin> where do i do that
[04:23] <Flannel> matin: Just in the terminal, where you're currently in /var/svn/ as www-data
[04:23] <Flannel> matin: Same terminal
[04:24] <matin> oic
[04:24] <matin> ok created
[04:24] <Flannel> matin: 'triumph' in that case is a relative path, 'whereever I am' being the default working directory
[04:25] <Flannel> matin: Alright, now we want to get out of our www-data terminal, and go back to your normal user, so we use `exit` (which is similar but different than logout)
[04:25] <matin> k
[04:25] <matin> i also use exit to exit ssh
[04:25] <vicro> olap view for linux???
[04:26] <OerHeks> vicro what is olap view ?
[04:27] <Flannel> matin: After that, we need to go into apache and point it at our new repository location.  So... lets see, this would be in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[04:27] <Flannel> matin: At least, that's probably where it is.  You may have done it differently if you were using a different tutorial.
[04:27] <Dex7> hello everyone
[04:28] <Dex7> please help - in my ubuntu unity 11.10 when i open skype
[04:28] <Dex7> and press left top menu(change status) fist time - it's open correct.
[04:28] <Dex7> when i minimize skype window and maximize it back
[04:28] <Dex7>  - left top menu from icon not available (just dont opened)
[04:28] <Dex7> how can i fix this?
[04:28] <FloodBot1> Dex7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <matin> default isn't the enabled one
[04:28] <Flannel> matin: We want to edit that file, so `sudo nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/default` in that file you should see a <Location /svn> directive, with SVNPath /svn in it, etc.  If you don't, let me know, we'll need to find it.
[04:28] <vicro> online analitic process ---> for for multidimensional data analysis (In BI)
[04:28] <matin> but ok
[04:28] <Flannel> matin: No, we want the enabled one.
[04:29] <matin> it's /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/krydia
[04:29] <vicro> MOLAP, ROLAP, ,etc in Oracle, mysql, postgre database
[04:29] <matin> and I'm in it
[04:29] <matin> but I'm not seeing a location /svn
[04:29] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  Go ahead and open that, and pastebin its contents please (there shouldn't be anything sensitive in it)
[04:29] <randomusr> how to print ascii code into characters?
[04:30] <randomusr> thought it was just using ALT + # and the number?
[04:30] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761248/
[04:30] <jose__> como puedo instalar archivos .run
[04:30] <Flannel> matin: That doesn't look like a complete file, but just a section of the middle of one.
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/06/getting-right-alt-key-alt-gr-to-work-in.html
[04:31] <Flannel> matin: (actually it looks like the end of it)
[04:31] <vicro> jose_ : chmod +x tuarchivo       &&  ./tuarchivo
[04:31] <matin> oh hey you're right
[04:31] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761250/
[04:33] <Flannel> matin: Oh, right.  Sorry, you're right! there isn't a <Location /svn> in that file!  Because as of ... 10.04 or 8.04 or something, it's actually in /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf
[04:33] <randomusr> ActionParsnip, the plot thickens as I'm using a mac. Any difference?
[04:33] <praic> #ubuntu-cn
[04:33] <Flannel> matin: so, go ahead and close this file, then open that (with sudo) in nano. (and pastebin if you don't mind!)
[04:33] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there any option when installing Ubuntu so it does not search for another OS when it installs grub? I only want the bootloader to have Ubuntu entries even though I will have other operating systems installed. Likewise, will these settings remain when grub is updated though the update/package manager?
[04:33] <motsword1> hello
[04:34] <matin> Flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/761252/
[04:38] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  Now we need to change line 11, where it says SVNPath /svn, we need to move that to point to our new path, SVNPath /var/svn/triumph
[04:39] <matin> is that it?
[04:39] <Flannel> matin: Save it, restart apache, and it should be.  You should see "Revision: 0" at http://playtriumph.tk/svn once you log in.
[04:41] <matin> i can't log in
[04:41] <matin> >.>
[04:41] <matin> oh ok
[04:41] <matin> bad password
[04:41] <matin> when i log in
[04:42] <matin> i get an error
[04:42] <FloodBot1> matin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <Flannel> matin: Which one?
[04:42] <matin> sorry, when i logged in i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/761256/
[04:42] <Hilikus> i'm trying to use pulse in my network but when i go to paprefs all ther checkboxes are grayed out. how do i enable them?
[04:44] <au_fait> I almost gave up on 11.10 because of the video was bad and it just seem like a hassle because  but once I got through that it is ok
[04:44] <au_fait> nice work guys
[04:44] <au_fait> I'm still n love with ya
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> au_fait: could switch DE ;)
[04:45] <VIPER-II> Actionparsnip can we have a little word in private?
[04:45] <Flannel> matin: Did you view http://playtriumph.tk/svn/ or  http://playtriumph.tk/svn ? (trailing slash)
[04:46] <matin> both are the same
[04:46] <au_fait> de ?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> VIPER-II: sure
[04:47] <au_fait> desktop environment?
[04:47] <Flannel> matin: Alright.  Lets look at our apache error log, that'll tell us what it's not able to do.  pastebin `tail -n 25 /var/log/apache2/error.log` (that just displays the last (up to) 25 lines of that file)
[04:47] <danielfeng> join #douban
[04:48] <shaneo> lol forgot the /
[04:48] <au_fait> i dont like kubuntu
[04:48] <au_fait> and unity sucks
[04:48] <StepNjump> yes it does!
[04:48] <shaneo> unity isnt that bad
[04:48] <StepNjump> Ubuntu 11.04 forever!
[04:48] <au_fait> I know you guys are doing gnome ... it is next'ish
[04:48] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761259/
[04:48] <shaneo> especially with unity rotate
[04:49] <au_fait> StepNjump,  I wish I would have said that!!!! but I already switched
[04:49] <StepNjump> 11.04 is the last version that Ubuntu will be running classic
[04:49] <shaneo> i did love gnome 2.* though
[04:49] <Flannel> matin: Alright, if I had to guess, I'd say we didn't successfully update /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf
[04:49] <arkanabar> Can anyone help me with my HP LJ which doesn't get print jobs, even tho the firmware autodownloaded just fine?
[04:49] <arkanabar> Laserjet 1018, if it matters.
[04:50] <Flannel> matin: Actually, let me ask this instead.  Can you please pastebin the contents of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf?
[04:50] <StepNjump> arkandabar, did you download hplip?
[04:50] <au_fait> gnome reminded me of NeXt
[04:50] <arkanabar> lemme double check.
[04:51] <arkanabar> StepNjump,  yep, it's the newest version.
[04:51] <matin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761261/
[04:51] <arkanabar> I remember something about the URI being autoconfigured wrong last time, but I can't find anything on that.
[04:51] <StepNjump> arkanabar, did you run it with the printer connected or unplugged?
[04:51] <au_fait> btb
[04:52] <au_fait> brb'
[04:52] <Flannel> matin: Alright, so you have (line 19): SVNPath /svn/triumph, this needs to be /var/svn/triumph
[04:52] <arkanabar> StepNjump, I don't suppose I've run it.  Which is better, & should I delete the printer I have now?
[04:53] <StepNjump> Well, when I installed my printer, it worked fine but when I ran hplip, my printer was not connected arkanabar
[04:53] <Flannel> matin: If you look at your error log, it was looking for /svn/triumph/format (format is a file in the repository that apache was looking for), which is how I knew this wasn't configured correctly (should be looking for /var/svn/triumph/format)
[04:53] <matin> ah
[04:53] <matin> huzzah!
[04:53] <matin> Revision 0
[04:53] <matin> so…. how do i use it lol
[04:53] <matin> i know git
[04:54] <matin> where you do git push origin master
[04:54] <arkanabar> StepNjump, hplip is apparently a metapackage.  what command do I need to actually run?
[04:54] <Flannel> matin: So, now go back to your homedir, make a scratch folder, go into it.  `svn checkout https://playtriumph.tk/svn/ .`
[04:54] <Flannel> matin: That'll checkout the repository (its empty) to your current working directory (which, you've made a new folder for)
[04:55] <matin> wait
[04:55] <matin> I'm on my macbook pro
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: Er sorry, http not https.
[04:55] <matin> and I'm sshing into my "server"
[04:55] <StepNjump> hplip! but follow the instructions on the screen and in the installation instructions on the web site carefully. Each steps are important arkanabar
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: you can do this on your macbook pro, if you have svn installed.
[04:55] <matin> which is just a crappy computer in my living room
[04:55] <matin> how do i set it up
[04:55] <StepNjump> arkanabar, also, ensure your printer is supported before trying to install it
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: At this point, your server is set up, and we're off to svn-land.
[04:55] <arkanabar> StepNjump, hplip:  command not found
[04:55] <StepNjump> It doesn't support ALL HP products!
[04:55] <matin> yeah
[04:55] <arkanabar> StepNjump, it is.  I got it to work on my lappy just fine.
[04:55] <Flannel> matin: Install svn on your macbook.... I don't really know how to do that :)  We CAN do it on your server too if that's easier
[04:56] <StepNjump> of course, you have to download the app. Hold on
[04:56] <StepNjump> I think you should run it by ./hplip
[04:56] <StepNjump> from the terminal line
[04:57] <StepNjump> Read the instructions carefully.
[04:57] <matin> i think it's installed
[04:57] <matin> what are the commands?
[04:57] <matin> for pushing to a svn
[04:57] <arkanabar> StepNjump, ./hplip:  No such file or directory
[04:57] <Flannel> matin: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.intro.quickstart.html  That book is a good book.  You oviously don't need to set up a repository, just use it, so you can skip the first svnadmin bit.
[04:57] <Flannel> matin: `svn` is the command
[04:58] <matin> import?
[04:58] <StepNjump> arkanabar: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/installtree.html
[04:58] <VIPER-II> Thanks for your help ActionParsnip!
[04:58] <Flannel> matin: If you've got stuff you want to import, then svn import will work.  I prefer an initial structure commit first, but that's just personal preference.
[04:59] <matin> how do i commit?
[04:59] <StepNjump> arlamabar" http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[04:59] <StepNjump> arkanabar: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[05:00] <Flannel> matin: svn commit -m "message", I encourage you to peruse that page/its links (and the rest of it).  It's actually a pretty quick read for the basics (skip the reference and advanced stuff, etc)
[05:00] <Flannel> matin: especially if you're already familiar with git
[05:00] <matin> alright
[05:00] <Flannel> matin: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.tour.importing.html for instance.
[05:00] <matin> yeah
[05:00] <StepNjump> Does anyone know about an app to record all sounds coming through the soundcard?
[05:01] <arkanabar> StepNjump, according to your last link, hplip should support my printer.
[05:02] <StepNjump> good arkanabar
[05:02] <arkanabar> how about that.  it just up and worked this time.  who can figure?
[05:03] <StepNjump> Then just download it.. but be CAREFUL to read every screen before going to the next screen. ALSO ENSURE your printer is NOT connected UNLESS at the end when HPLIP asks you to connect the printer
[05:03] <StepNjump> lol arkanabar...  likes the website
[05:04] <arkanabar> except that the printer is NOT visible when I try to print from Impress.  grrrrr....
[05:05] <arkanabar> eh, I opened up printer properties, and there it was.... this time.
[05:05] <au_fait> back.
[05:05] <Folklore> I had a problem of running a bash script stand alone turns out the problem was I didn't include the #!/bin/bash on first line and also because I didn't cd to the path I was doing stuff like cd /home/me etc... in the script
[05:05] <Folklore> just wanted to let all know that fixed it and it works great now
[05:05] <Folklore> as there was confusion last time
[05:06] <StepNjump> but arkanabar, did you run hplip before?
[05:06] <matin> alright
[05:06] <Dex7> in my ubuntu unity 11.10 when i open skype and press left top menu fist time - it's open correct. when i minimize skype window and maximize it back - left top menu from icon not available (just dont opened) how can i fix this?
[05:06] <arkanabar> StepNjump, don't think so.  I unplugged the printer & plugged it back in.
[05:06] <StepNjump> anyone familiar here audacity?
[05:07] <arkanabar> and blam, it automagically set it up.  wewt!
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> Dex7: where did you install skype from? Are there any bugs logged?
[05:07] <wrekt> hello. i booted up with the startup disk, ran ndiskgtk and installed the driver for my wireless usb. i rebppted and when i ran lshw -C network i got back instead of CLAIMED UNCLAIMED ENABLED DIABLED by the NETWORK a 0. any ideas what to do now?
[05:07] <matin> thanks Flannel
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: which network chip is it?
[05:07] <StepNjump> No no arkanabar! I said don't connect your printer until HPLIP asks you to do it! UNPLUG your printer 1. download hplip, 2. run HPLIP 3 wait for the prompt to connect your printer. This is not Windows!
[05:07] <matin> but now when i do svn commit
[05:08] <matin> nothing happens >.>
[05:08] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, its a wirelss usb by linksys and i believe i succesfully installed the driver
[05:08] <StepNjump> plug and play NO!
[05:08] <Folklore> I do have a question fwrite doesn't seem to write anything unless I fclose
[05:08] <Folklore> any know why?
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: thats the make, linksys don't make chips, they buy them from Atheros, Broadcom and Intel and make devices
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: if you run:  lsusb   what is the 8 character hex ID you get?
[05:09] <StepNjump> arkanabar... do you understand?
[05:10] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, oh sorry got you. the number is 1737:0077
[05:10] <StepNjump> Ok guys, I'm trying to record my audio using audacity. Any idea?
[05:10] <Dex7> ActionParsnip: no nothin in my log. installed from repositry (default)
[05:11] <StepNjump> mmmm
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Dex7: try the file from www.skype.com
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1273401
[05:11] <matin> hey guys
[05:11] <matin> when i do svn status, it says ? js and ? css
[05:11] <Hilarie> I recently purchased a VPS and installed 11.04 on it, any suggestions on a remote system monitor?
[05:15] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, sigh i will investigate further. might pay to get a diff wireless card though lol they are quite inexpensive these days
[05:16] <arkanabar> StepNjump, I'm well aware it isn't Panes.  And yet, in this case, it's managed to behave very much like it.
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: indeed, if you look at what works before you buy, you can get a system that works out of the box
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: could use snmp and go old school :)
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: http://library.linode.com/server-monitoring/cacti/ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[05:17] <arkanabar> It may not have been the "right" way, but it did work.
[05:18] <Hilarie> ActionParsnip, You rock
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: just websearched dude
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: nothing fancy or unique...
[05:18] <Hilarie> ActionParsnip you are at one with the google
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Hilarie: duckduckgo here
[05:21] <jakupl> using duckduckgo too
[05:21] <Flannel> matin: You need to svn add first.  You've checked out, then you copy (filesystem) then add (files from filesystem into svn), then commit.  `svn status` will tell you what has been added (not yet committed), or question marks mean "not under version control"
[05:21] <matin> how do i add to version control
[05:21] <Flannel> matin: `svn add file`
[05:22] <matin> ...
[05:22] <matin> i kept doing svn add .
[05:22] <Flannel> matin: where file is a particular file, or a glob of files
[05:22] <matin> yeah haha i just got it :P
[05:22] <Flannel> matin: to add your current directory?
[05:22] <Flannel> `svn add *` does work, although it may not be what you want
[05:22] <matin> alright thanks so much Flannel
[05:22] <matin> i gtg
[05:22] <mike> Cool, there is an ubuntu channel
[05:22] <matin> good night
[05:23] <RobertsWeb> Hey guys!
[05:24] <RobertsWeb> Wondering how to keep ubuntu server up-to-date so my repositories still work. I have a server with 9.10 installed and apt-get no longer works
[05:24] <JoeSigal> Please help me with this site problem! http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> RobertsWeb: install LTS and it will be supported for a long time :)
[05:25] <RobertsWeb> ActionParsnip, does that mean I need to reformat the server?
[05:25] <RobertsWeb> can I update with a disk or something?
[05:25] <dumnut> hi, i have a 2.4g wireless mouse that does not work, does anyone know where i can get driver for it?
[05:26] <RobertsWeb> dumnut, whats the company/model?
[05:27] <dumnut> RobertsWeb: cpi
[05:28] <Northwoods> Why do i have to run gsudo nautilius everytime i want to paste something into directories like /var/www
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> RobertsWeb: you can upgrade to Lucid from Karmic
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: because the file is not owned by your user
[05:31] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, but how do i give all rights to my user ---> Northwoods
[05:31] <Northwoods> ?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: if you add your user to the group which owns the folder, you should get write access
[05:31] <Northwoods> I'm suppose to be the owner of this machine, sorry i'm new to ubuntu
[05:31] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, you mean like root user ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: no, if you run:  ls -l /var/www   what is output?
[05:32] <Northwoods> i should add myself to root group ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: no, that would remove any security in your system
[05:32] <Northwoods> total 12
[05:32] <Northwoods> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  177 2011-11-26 22:42 index.html
[05:32] <Northwoods> drwxrwxrwx 16 root root 4096 2011-12-06 10:55 sraas
[05:32] <Northwoods> drwxrwx---  2 root root 4096 2011-12-06 10:55 ysl
[05:32] <FloodBot1> Northwoods: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <Northwoods> sorry for flood
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: if you use pastebin you won't flood the channel
[05:33] <Northwoods> ok
[05:33] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, how do i set permissions for my user login
[05:34] <hugalua> just wondering - what ubuntu release, or between what years did Ubuntu gain the most popularity? And was ubuntu forked off Debian, was the first 2004 release just the same as debian unstable at the time?
[05:35] <is_derek> Hi All
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear ls -l /var | pastebinit
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: what is output?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> oop
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; ls -l /var | pastebinit
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: that ^
[05:35] <napster> How can I cut a video from command line. I have a video which is 2 hours long. I want to cut from 00:10:00 to 00:22:00 to get a splitted out video. How can do that using cli?
[05:35] <is_derek> Has anyone had issues with their laptop touchpad freezing up?  Logout fixes it.  I am on 11.10
[05:36] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/761281/
[05:37] <kadoban> can anyone tell me how to fix this huge dependency mess in aptitude? i'm trying to install ia32-libs package, and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/761280/
[05:37] <Northwoods> i just changed my group from regular to ROOT
[05:37] <kadoban> it wants me to remove about a million packages in order to do that, which is not acceptable of course...
[05:37] <napster> or even splitting into two parts is more than enough!
[05:38] <Northwoods> i'm going to logout and login again
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> his call, oh well
[05:40] <x> napster, ffmpeg -vcodec copy -ss 00:01:00 -t 00:03:00 -i infile.mpg outfile.mpg
[05:40] <napster> x ty
[05:41] <kadoban> can anyone even tell me what the conflict lines mean? they seem like non-sense, I don't understand what's conflicting with what
[05:48] <StepNjump> If anyone is interested to know how to record audio 'what you hear' from their computer under ubuntu, I finally found it.. Hope it helps http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recording-internal-audio-in-ubuntu.html
[05:58] <niftylettuce> using 3.1.4-030104-generic and 11.10, bluetooth not working, my icon says bluetooth is on, but when I go to preferences its stuck on the OFF switch
[05:58] <niftylettuce> i have a bluetooth normal USB dongle
[05:58] <niftylettuce> worked fine in 11.04
[05:58] <niftylettuce> err 10.04*
[06:02] <niftylettuce> odd, i had to `$ /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart` to get it working
[06:02] <niftylettuce> hmph...
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[06:09] <smokeycastle> whats the ubuntu chat channel?
[06:09] <chalcedony> hi hi ActionParsnip *hugs*
[06:09] <somsip> smokeycastle: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:09] <aaronsnoswell> I'm trying to create a one liner that adds to the path and appends the given directory to ~/.bashrc in one hit. So far I'm stuck. This is what I have so far: https://gist.github.com/1436976
[06:09] <ScroogeMcDuckets> Hello All!!! I'm having a problem with booting into Ubuntu 10.04
[06:10] <StepNjump> Does anyone know how to select and copy text in elinks?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> aaronsnoswell: echo "export PATH=$PATH:$1" | tee -a ~/.bashrc
[06:11] <aaronsnoswell> ActionParsnip, You always come to my rescue <3
[06:11] <aaronsnoswell> Thanks
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> aaronsnoswell: add that in a script and it will take a pararmeter, this will be added to the path. I suggest you use a test file first, then switch to ~/.bashrc when you are happy with the results
[06:12] <mbrochh> hey all, does anyone know about a nice distraction free editor? I am thinking of something that I can put on fullscreen, that has the text in a column centered on the screen rather than left aligned...
[06:12] <aaronsnoswell> mbrochh, scribes is nice. I just use gedit though.
[06:12] <mbrochh> aaronsnoswell: gedit is left aligned, isn't it?
[06:12] <aaronsnoswell> mbrochh, yeah
[06:13] <SachinDey> nautilus is not showing folder icons