[06:48] <xenos1984_> hi everyone, i'm trying to figure out how exactly the gps works on a nexus 7, i.e., how the gps data gets from the gps device to the application
[06:49] <xenos1984_> so far i understood that the application level interface is provided by QtLocation, but i'm interested in the low level interface
[06:50] <xenos1984_> is there some serial device aka /dev/tty* or the like which provides NMEA data? or some other interface / driver?
[06:51] <xenos1984_> any hint to hardware docs or some driver code where i could look this up myself would also be highly appreciated
[11:48] <Aizen> ogra_, you there ?
[11:58] <Joropo> Hola
[12:03] <Aizen> Where should I place the android system.img ? My device isn't officially supported so I have to do it manually.
[12:48] <cwayne> anyone good with go+qml around?
[15:34] <Drew> Hello
[15:35] <popey> hello
[15:40] <pitti> stgraber: I was wondering how to launch an upstart user session in a schroot, to make "ubuntu-app-launch" work in a schroot; do you happen to know how?
[15:53] <doflaherty> there were references in some of the landing team e-mails to MMS support - has that landed yet or is it still in progress?
[15:55] <dobey> pitti: i managed to get 90% of the way to having that work yesterday. it was stressful :(
[15:56] <dobey> pitti: and in the end I still got blocked by apport issues (doing it inside an lxc)
[15:56] <dobey> err, not apport, apparmor
[15:56] <dobey> doflaherty: i think receiving works mostly, but sending isn't quite there yet, iirc
[16:09] <doflaherty> dobey, is there a way to test that aside from asking my friends to send me pictures?  t-mo lets me send text messages via e-mail, but attaching images doesn't seem to work
[16:10] <dobey> doflaherty: no idea
[17:03] <Aizen> ogra_, you there? I finally got the init process working :). But now I'm getting "initrd: Couldn't find a system partition" error. Where should I place the android system.img ?
[17:08] <Aizen> Anyone ?
[17:27] <tonyt> Hi, i just installed ubuntu touch on nexus 7
[17:27] <tonyt> does the panel change from portrait to landscape - doesn't seem so
[17:33] <frecel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1332858
[17:34] <jjohansen> apparm
[17:44] <stgraber> pitti: init --user?
[17:45] <stgraber> pitti: you'll then need to set UPSTART_SESSION to the right value (you can find it in /run/user/<uid>/usptart/sessions if XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is set
[17:45] <stgraber> pitti: after that, initctl should work as expected and target that user session
[20:34] <DirkT> Hi, does any of you know if desktop convergence is supported on the Nexus 7? I haven't found any statement using Google.
[20:44]  * DirkT is patiently walking away yet still waiting for an answer
[20:48] <popey> DirkT: no
[20:53] <DirkT> popey: thanks for the info. I'd like get a device that supports desktop convergence. What should I get at this stage to be as officially supported as currently possible?
[20:58] <popey> DirkT: we're some way off from full desktop convergence, I wouldn't like to recommend a device yet.
[21:00] <DirkT> Well, then let me ask differently: has a Nexus 7 decent hardware enough to run one day desktop convergence? ;)
[21:02] <popey> Couldn't tell you.
[21:02] <popey> We're not there yet.
[21:03] <popey> I wouldn't want to say yes, and you come back to me in 18 months and complain ☻
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> DirkT, Don't hold your breath I have a nexus 7
[21:05] <DirkT> Ok, no problem. One of my clients is an investment company that is connected to an Asian noname Android device manufacturer. I would like to build sometng to convince them that Ubuntu is the sugar in the cake that they have been lacking so far. ;) So, desktop convergence aside, what works currently works with Nexus 7 pretty well, yeah? It's not lacking anything hardware wise that would spoil the show?
[21:06] <DirkT> Nexus 7 is close hw-wise to that other product, hence my interest.
[21:07] <popey> the devices we currently support are Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10
[21:08] <DirkT> Yes, but screen size aside is any one of them able to do things the others can't?
[21:08] <DirkT> (as far as Ubuntu is concerned)
[21:09] <popey> Sure, the Nexus 4 can make phone calls ㋛
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> DirkT, the touch is not a ubuntu desktop environment, you might look closer at it's functionality.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> not yet anyway, ;)
[21:11] <DirkT> wilee-nilee: I know. Until convergence is there. :-P
[21:13] <DirkT> Ok, so currently Nexus 4 has the most features. Thanks. :-)
[21:14] <DirkT> Thanks to the team here for making Ubuntu Touch's awesome. :-)
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> DirkT, again don't hold your breathm canonical has the doors open for providers to bite the worm, seems there is something coming up for the touch is all.
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> I would pay big bucks for the docking phone to the desktop, just waiting for it to happen ;)
[21:22] <DirkT> :-) It'll be a killer.


[00:02] <alichtman> I've got one more thing I noticed in my kernel logs that I can't figure out how to fix: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sm4n8NH7V7/
[00:02] <alichtman> I've never seen this before
[00:03] <alichtman> so I'm imagining it was caused by an update?
[00:03] <alichtman> no solutions on stack overflow or google seemed appropriate
[00:03] <alichtman> and my /etc/sudoers file seems ok
[00:05] <sarnold> alichtman: check also your /etc/sudoers.d/* entries
[00:07] <alichtman> sarnold: Just a 99-snapd.conf file
[00:07] <alichtman> seems unrelated
[00:08] <sarnold> alichtman: and all the Defaults are documented in the sudoers manpage?
[00:10] <alichtman> sarnold: not sure what you mean by that
[00:11] <TJ->  secure_path possibly? alichtman  check the changelog "less /usr/share/doc/sudo/changelog.Debian.gz" for recent changes
[00:12] <alichtman> OH
[00:12] <sarnold> https://sources.debian.org/src/sudo/1.9.1-2/doc/sudoers.man.in/?hl=4868#L4867
[00:12] <sarnold> the manpage says of that error message "contains one or more unknown Defaults settings"
[00:12] <sarnold> so I'm curious if something that might have worked once upon a time no longer does
[00:12] <alichtman> yeah so the secure_path was commented out in my /etc/sudoers file
[00:13] <alichtman> gonna uncomment that
[00:14] <alichtman> nope, didn't fix it
[00:15] <TJ-> alichtman: don't you love such helpful messages!?
[00:16] <alichtman> yeah lmao I wish the error was a bit more specific
[00:17] <alichtman> I have no idea what to do with this
[00:17] <alichtman> I'm considering adopting the "ignorance is bliss" strategy and just not looking in the kernel logs
[00:20] <TJ-> alichtman: try adding debug logs. "echo Debug sudo /var/log/sudo_debug.log defaults@debug | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers.d/debug.conf"
[00:22] <TJ-> alichtman: that's given as an example in "man 5 sudoers"
[00:25] <torniq> Package php7.3-mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package
[00:26] <torniq> I'm trying to get my php 7.3 to have mysql pdo, but it says it's unavaible.  any ideas?
[00:30] <sarnold> torniq: eoan reached end of life a few months ago, upgrade to focal and then you can install php7.4-mysql which will probably work
[00:33] <alichtman> I'm throwing in the towel for today on thsi
[00:33] <alichtman> thanks for all the help
[00:33] <alichtman> I have a working system and I'm happy with that
[00:35] <sarnold> good luck alichtman :)
[00:53] <RadicalRhino353> is this the place for ubuntu support
[00:53] <sarnold> RadicalRhino353: yeah
[00:54] <RadicalRhino353> ok im want to install linux os on my windows pc but i don't want to delete windows know any software (not virtual machine) where i csn do so?
[00:55] <RadicalRhino353> can*
[00:56] <sarnold> RadicalRhino353: you've got a few options: you can dual-boot both, so you've got both, but you have to pick which one you want to use
[00:57] <sarnold> RadicalRhino353: you could install WSL or WSL2 support for ubuntu or debian or whatever you wish that way; iirc wsl2 is a VM-based approach, wsl1 is a subsystem of the nt kernel; both have plusses and minuses, and iirc neither one supports everything
[00:57] <RadicalRhino353> im probably mainly gonna use linux but i want to be able to switch to windows if i ever need to (say i software isnt linux compatible)
[00:58] <RadicalRhino353> a*
[00:58] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | RadicalRhino353
[00:58] <RadicalRhino353> the Bashing-om
[00:59] <RadicalRhino353> thx*
[00:59] <RadicalRhino353> im on windows?
[00:59] <Bashing-om> RadicalRhino353: :D
[00:59] <RadicalRhino353> oh sry two lins
[00:59] <RadicalRhino353> links
[01:01] <RadicalRhino353> before i go through with this if i ever factory reset my system will it convert back to normal windows
[01:02] <sarnold> some systems do have a 'windows restore' partition on the drive
[01:02] <sarnold> up to you whether or not you want to keep that
[01:02] <RadicalRhino353> what if i custom build?
[01:03] <sarnold> what does that mean?
[01:07] <RadicalRhino353> i buy parts and build my own pc
[01:07] <RadicalRhino353> sarnold
[01:07] <sarnold> RadicalRhino353: aha; then there is probably no "factory restore" option on such a machine :)
[01:08] <RadicalRhino353> can i use a usb reovery stick?
[01:10] <sarnold> RadicalRhino353: for ubuntu, sure; for windows, no idea
[01:10] <RadicalRhino353> ok
[01:10] <sarnold> they have to have some way to reinstall..
[01:10] <sarnold> and rufus.ie has links to downloadable windows images of some sort
[01:10] <RadicalRhino353> Bashing-om do you know?
[01:11] <sarnold> but I can't tell you what the capabilities of those images are, or if you're legally allowed to use them as fresh install media for long-term use, etc
[01:11] <RadicalRhino353> ok
[01:11] <RadicalRhino353> thx for the help!
[01:12] <Bashing-om> RadicalRhino353: Nope - I left Windows behind back in XP Service Pack 2 - never looked back at Windows.
[01:12] <RadicalRhino353> oh wow
[01:13] <RadicalRhino353> i just recently got into linux bc it really easy to program on it
[01:14] <sarnold> once upon a time every microsoft system had qbasic :) you could be programming in a few seconds on those things..
[01:14] <Bashing-om> RadicalRhino353: Can be a steep learning curve to get into this eco system - If you go behind the GUI.
[02:38] <iAaron> Hey everyone hows it goin?
[02:56] <iAaron> Its dead in here hmm?
[03:05] <sarnold> iAaron: yup. europe is asleep, north america is headed that way, asia is on weekend
[03:12] <Bashing-om> ^^ iAaron And the Sun is shining over the Pacific Ocean :D
[03:37] <mihael> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 18. My computer has two NICs, ens18 and ens19. I've setup both IPv4 and IPv6: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BXQbM4RHtY/
[03:38] <mihael> When I run `ip -6 route`, I have `2401:da90:3000:2::/64 dev ens19 proto kernel metric 256 pref medium` and `fe80::/64 dev ens18 proto kernel metric 256 pref medium`
[03:39] <mihael> Shouldn't that be 2401:da90:3000:2::1 and fe80::/64 shouldn't be in ens18 right?
[03:55] <BenMcLean> Hi. I am having a problem where when I create a .desktop file, I never get the option to launch it. Can anyone help? I don't find much on google for this
[03:55] <BenMcLean> i am on ubuntu 20
[04:00] <BenMcLean> i don't seem to have a /home/.local/ directory some online help talks about
[04:00] <BenMcLean> In Windows, you can just right click on pretty damn near anything and say, "Create shortcut" -- why is this taking me more than half an hour on ubuntu?
[04:01] <BenMcLean> Windows makes creating shortcuts so easy that I once had to tell an old granny that all her family photos were gone forever because she only copied shortcuts to them rather than the actual files. It was sad.
[04:02] <BenMcLean> ubuntu makes creating shortcuts so hard that I have a BS in computer science and I still can't figure it out
[04:03] <gnubian> @BenMcLean where are you stuck at?
[04:05] <BenMcLean> gnubian I finally figured it out. I had to copy the .desktop file to /usr/share/applications/
[04:05] <BenMcLean> Most of the stuff online was saying it needed to go in /home/.local/ for some reason
[04:06] <BenMcLean> thanks anyhow
[04:09] <esperantoman> what are some reasons that dock on the side of the standard version of ubuntu could get icons stuck in it when programs close out and all around slow and sluggish
[04:09] <esperantoman> every ubuntu installation i've had in modern history has done this at some point
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> esperantoman: on the side?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> esperantoman: ah you mean the animations going slow?
[04:16] <esperantoman> like when i shut out an application its icon will sometimes just stay there. additionally when i open one it takes forever to show up
[04:16] <gnubian> @esperantoman: change your animation speed
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> esperantoman: animations depend on the graphics too, what kind of graphics chipset do you have with wich driver version?
[04:18] <esperantoman> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Iris Plus Graphics 655 (rev 01)
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> esperantoman: right, i think the animations problem could lay there, wich version of gnome is that, how much ram do you have?
[05:31] <fosser_josh> there is icon of huawei autorun in ubuntu 20.04. its already there with fresh installation. anyone know what it is? and how to get rid of it?
[05:32] <fosser_josh> as well as microsoft silverlight
[05:32] <fosser_josh> on clicking both apps both does nothing
[05:47] <Maik> fosser_josh: Not sure what you mean. Screenshots can sometimes be helpful and say more than words.
[06:15] <rauldux> hi just installed ubuntu 20.04 for my wife. if i use dig or nslookup it says dns server is <IP_ADDRESS> i've have pi-hole in the sam network and this shoud ne the dns server. when I view connection information on the graphical wifi icon it shows the right address(pi-hole) for dns server. in short why does dig say <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:47] <wyoung> rauldux: Probably a dns proxy running on there
[06:47] <wyoung> ubuntu's network manager be crazy
[06:57] <retran> rauldux, is this question due to an idle curiosity of yours, or a substantive problem?
[06:58] <retran> the network manager wouldn't tell you <IP_ADDRESS>, because that would just confuse you
[06:58] <retran> it shields that implementation fact from you
[06:58] <retran> and look... here you are... confused
[07:00] <rauldux> well I would want my pi-hole to work
[07:01] <rauldux> so I need that specific dns server
[07:01] <retran> just bind it to something else, <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:01] <retran> and then set your dns to it
[07:02] <rauldux> I just don't get it, why would a dns server adress be <IP_ADDRESS>??
[07:03] <retran> stop trying to get it
[07:03] <rauldux> does ubuntu install its own dns server by default or is this  kind of a ubunt-work-around-way?
[07:03] <retran> if you didn't get it by now, it's not worth it
[07:03] <retran> just bind your pi-hole to 127.X.X.X
[07:04] <rauldux> ok the , how do I achive this?
[07:04] <retran> check out pi-hole docs for how it binds
[07:04] <retran> how to cofnigure it
[07:05] <rauldux> but I have a heterogen network with different devices other than ubuntu. does this affect them?
[07:07] <sub526> Hi all, I'm having Ubuntu 16.04 LTS laptop and now i want to upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04. Is there any command to upgrade ?
[07:10] <rfm> sub526, do a "apt update;apt upgrade" to get to the very newest 16.04, I'd reboot after that, and then "do-release-upgrade" ought to get you ther
[07:13] <rfm> rauldux, pi-hole pretty much assumes that you are on raspian, not ubuntu. Their docs say as much.   I'd comment out the chrome line in /etc/apt/sources.list and go again.  Then reinstall chrome afterwards if you want it.
[07:16] <rauldux> i just want to make sure the ubuntu client get's dns resolves from the pi-hole
[07:20] <rfm> rauldux, ok, you need to read "man systemd-resolved" which is the proxy resolve running on the loopbac
[07:20] <rfm> qqmq
[07:21] <rauldux> omg is it such a rocket sience to change the dns resolver in ubuntu?
[07:22] <retran> you're overthinking it, rauldux
[07:23] <retran> just put it to the address of your rasp-pi
[07:23] <retran> the 127.0 whatever stuff is LOOPBACK
[07:23] <rfm> rauldux, yeah, it's complicated now, but the way it is works even in pretty scary nomadic use cases
[07:23] <retran> look up what loopbacks are
[07:23] <chaitanya122> Hi all, I am trying to install onnxruntime in my system but it is showing the following error message "ERROR: No matching distribution found for onnxruntime-gpu". So please help me in installing onnxruntine.
[07:23] <retran> before you try to customize networking, get the basics down. find out what a loopback address is on google and come back
[07:24] <retran> you're confusing everyone
[07:24] <rauldux> i know loopback retran
[07:24] <retran> could have fooled me
[07:27] <rfm> rauldux, you will eventually get to "resolvectl dns <line> dnsserverip" can't remember if there is something else to do to make it persist over boots...
[07:27] <retran> he's using the graphical network manager
[07:27] <retran> just change the setting there
[07:28] <rfm> oh yean, nm-connection-editor should be able to deal
[07:34] <diverdude> hi. if i `apt-get install graphviz-dev` will `apt-get install graphviz` also get installed automatically?
[07:36] <rauldux> i have done that but anyways if I use dig or nslookup it shows loopback adrass as resolver
[07:37] <retran> that's what it's supposed to do
[07:37] <retran> stop trying to diagnoe it
[07:37] <retran> diagnose
[07:38] <retran> you should be looking at a DNS trace
[07:38] <retran> not just the closest NS
[07:38] <rfm> rauldux, systemd-resolved squats on the loopback address and acts as a cache. instead of worrying about that, you need to aim resolved to the right upstream dns.
[07:39] <retran> and I'm still concerned he doesn't understand "loopback" yet :(
[07:40] <black_ant> guy anyone knows how to install the latest nftables on 'Debian buster' ? noticed my version is 'v0.9.0 (Fearless Fosdick)'. I will like to upgrade that if possible. thanks
[07:41] <rfm> black_ant, this is #ubuntu, we probably are not gonna be much help on buster
[07:41] <rauldux> thx rfm, now this is a usefull answer
[07:41] <retran> guessing he's gonna say "i tried in #debian" and nobody answered
[07:41] <black_ant> sorry wrong room :)
[07:41] <retran> lol all good
[09:04] <Industrial> Hi. I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T460 and I have a problem with my keyboard. They backslash key doesn't work. The shift version of that key "|" does work.
[09:05] <Industrial> setxkbmap says I have pc105 layout at the moment
[09:05] <Industrial> hardly correct, as I count around 80 keys
[09:06] <Industrial> How do I find out what keyboard layout I should use for this laptop?
[09:10] <Industrial> `sudo showkey -s` shows `0x2b 0xab` when I press the backslash key
[09:10] <Industrial> so it is recognized
[09:12] <Industrial> `evtest` also shows the backslash event when I press the key
[09:26] <dw1> whats the easiest way to map shift+left_arrow to home
[09:36] <dex1983> hi
[09:37] <dex1983> could someone help me with a script which moves (mv command) all files except of a give exception to another folder? So that it ignores for example .jpg files and leaves it untouched und move all other *.* files
[09:37] <dex1983> Thanks :)
[09:40] <dw1> think i found a solution https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/65923
[09:44] <dw1> dex1983: for f in $(ls -I "*.jpg"); do echo $f; done
[09:44] <dw1> change echo to mv "$f" or whatever
[09:45] <dw1> well change echo $f to mv "$f" /somewhere
[09:45] <dw1> but the echo will show the files it will match first
[09:45] <dw1> so you can be sure
[09:45] <dw1> you can add more -I params
[09:46] <dw1> good luck, dont die
[09:57] <rud0lf> nice part message
[10:02] <jonux> dex1983: for f in $(find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*' -type f | grep -v '.jpg'); do echo $f; done
[10:10] <independent> can you use PRoot on CentOS to run programs inside a Kali chroot environment?
[10:11] <guiverc> independent, neither CentOS nor Kali are Ubuntu or flavors of Ubuntu
[10:12] <independent> I know
[10:12] <independent> but it a general linux question
[10:12] <guiverc> independent, well as in a linux room, not a Ubuntu room
[10:12] <independent> just did /amsg dont blame me
[10:13] <guiverc> !topic
[10:38] <dex1983> ok thank you so much guys :-)
[10:39] <dex1983> ls: illegal option -- I :-(
[10:40] <dex1983> ah ok works now
[10:42] <osse> after running 'shopt -s extglob':  mv !(*.jpg) /another/folder
[10:42] <dex1983> hmm osse how you mean that :-(
[10:45] <osse> dex1983: !(*.jpg) means "everything except *.jgp" but for that to work you need to run 'shopt -s extglob' first
[10:45] <dex1983> ok osse what does shopt do?
[10:45] <osse> modifies settings in the shell
[10:46] <osse> shopt = "shell options"  (I guess)
[10:47] <dex1983> ok
[10:51] <dex1983> thanks
[11:01] <dex1983> will there also folders be moved osse? or do I need to add mv -r !...?
[11:02] <dex1983> dw1 for f in $(ls -I "*.jpg"); do echo $f; done --> I get illegal option :-(
[11:03] <osse> dex1983: ah yes, folders will be moved. I guess that's not desired
[11:03] <dex1983> all expect of .jpg should be moved
[11:03] <osse> including folders?
[11:04] <dex1983> yep
[11:04] <osse> then it works as it is
[11:04] <dex1983> ok
[11:18] <amazoniantoad> Whenever I try to install a package I get a response that either there are unmet dependencies (Which I cannot install) or that I hold broken packages. Can anyone help me figure out how to resolve this issue?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:45] <independent> amazoniantoad: sudo apt install aptitude -y && sudo aptitude install package >pastethis.log
[11:49] <amazoniantoad> independent, "unable to apply some actions, aborting"
[11:49] <amazoniantoad> it also says aptitude is already at the newest version
[11:50] <independent> try to install the package with aptitude
[11:50] <independent> and paste the log
[11:51] <amazoniantoad> independent, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qKFSt6z7vz/
[11:52] <independent> no
[11:52] <independent> i mean
[11:53] <independent> meh nvm just try this
[11:53] <independent> sudo apt -f install -y
[11:53] <amazoniantoad> independent, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:55] <independent> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
[11:56] <amazoniantoad> independent, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:57] <independent> show me your # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <independent> output
[11:58] <amazoniantoad> independent, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D5w7jRxQfn/
[11:58] <amazoniantoad> independent, I installed packages using katoolin3 which adds things to the sources list and then removes entries after it installs select packages
[11:59] <amazoniantoad> So if it doesn't look out of the ordinary that would be why
[11:59] <independent> type uname -a
[11:59] <amazoniantoad> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HhBdjQZjcS/
[12:01] <independent> when you install something dont remove the source after
[12:01] <amazoniantoad> independent, okay. That's just how katoolin3 works though. They made that a part of the process.
[12:01] <amazoniantoad> So I guess I should remove everything from them?
[12:02] <independent> try putting the sources back and update
[12:05] <amazoniantoad> independent, done
[12:05] <amazoniantoad> now what?
[12:05] <amazoniantoad> ah now it works!
[12:05] <amazoniantoad> look at that
[12:05] <amazoniantoad> thanks independent
[12:06] <independent> np
[12:15] <spectrezh> anyone know how to easily set up auto updates of packages in ubuntu 20.04 (popOS) ?
[12:18] <tomreyn> popOS is not ubuntu
[12:18] <jeremy31> spectrezh: ask  popOS support
[12:18] <alterjsive> does anyone know how to find the kernel acpi shutdown code for the nvidia RTX max q? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hybrid_graphics#Fully_Power_Down_Discrete_GPU
[12:22] <jeremy31> alterjsive: the method on the site doesn't work?
[12:23] <weiliang1503> You can use popOS as Ubuntu, they are almost the same
[12:23] <alterjsive> jeremy31: no, I've got new hardware . An AMD laptop (Asus g14)
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> weiliang1503: yes, but be can only support vanilla ubuntu flavours here
[12:27] <jeremy31> alterjsive: did you install the acpi_call dkms?
[12:27] <motz> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN pls help
[12:27] <alterjsive> jeremy31: yes
[12:28] <alterjsive> jeremy31: I just need the right ACPI code
[12:28] <alterjsive> something like \_SB.PCI0.XXX.GFX0.DOF
[12:50] <ninja> I want to downgrade some packages. How can I find them using apt? apt search doesn't list them
[12:50] <ninja> Do I need to enable some extra repos in my sources?
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> ninja: downgrading is not how ubuntu works, we advice to use packag versions for your specific ubuntu release, and keep your system up to date
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> ninja: maybe if you elaborate why, volunteers might have ideas for your issue
[12:54] <alterjsive> ninja: I agree, but if you really want to, you can uninstall and lock the version I think
[12:54] <ninja> without uninstalling first, I can't downgrade it?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ninja, ask your real question, don't make assumptions that you need to downgrade
[12:55] <alterjsive> yes
[12:55] <alterjsive> but I agree with lotuspsychje ad BluesKaj
[12:57] <ninja> BluesKaj: If you can't understand what I meant, don't please bother
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> ninja: please tone down, if you dont ask a real question, volunteers cant really help you neither
[12:58] <ninja>  I asked a real question
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> ninja: thats not the root cause of what you are trying to do
[12:59] <ninja> my question is still same... I want to check older versions using apt.
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> ninja: wich package version on wich ubuntu release are you trying to downgrade for what reason?
[12:59] <ninja> php5-common_5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.26_amd64.deb
[13:00] <BluesKaj> nice attitude
[13:02] <ninja> add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-security-proposed/ppa I think I have to add this PPA
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ninja: pastebin: uname -a && lsb_release -a && apt policy php5-common
[13:04] <BluesKaj> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa, read the caution there
[13:04] <BluesKaj> ninja,^
[13:06] <ninja> BluesKaj: I know how to read
[13:06] <BluesKaj> no kidding
[13:06] <ninja> lotuspsychje:  Linux ubuntu-2gb-hel1-4 4.15.0-117-generic #118-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 4 20:02:41 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:06] <ninja> lotuspsychje:  Release: 18.04
[13:07] <ninja>  lotuspsychje not installed, no version table
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> ninja: we reccomend to use the php version for your bionic version, see !18.04 for the releasenotes, if you install external ppa's thats on your own risk, contact the maintainer of the ppa for support
[13:11] <ninja> I was asking about apt.
[13:11] <ninja> and I didn't downgrade apt
[13:14] <thelounge4364> When running ubuntu server, globbing in the CLI works with something like '/my/dir/**/*jpg' but in a docker container, that globbing doesn't work. is there a package I need to install for that type of globbing?
[13:15] <dex1983> what I have done wrong?
[13:15] <dex1983> https://pastebin.com/raw/iuY59fmA
[13:16] <dex1983> ./movefiles.sh: line 5: `mv !(*.txt) /home/user/newpath'
[13:16] <dex1983> ./movefiles.sh: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[13:19] <osse> dex1983: you forgot shopt -s extglob
[13:36] <[[thufir]]> I'm getting "unable to enumerate usb device" so am in terminal mode now
[13:36] <[[thufir]]> what does that mean?
[13:50] <b247_eu> please help, arping works, ping (ssh, etc) not - pinging lan gw or other resources, what am I doing wrong?
[14:26] <elPuma> In Software & Updates, I switched to one of the proprietary nvidia drivers (nvidia-driver-440) from the default xserver-xorg-video-nouveau. Before I reboot, is there anything I can check to make sure I won't get stuck in the grub/splash-screen thing? I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.1 on a dell xps 15 9560.
[14:29] <b247_eu> i have a local networking issue in #ubuntu 20.04, I;ve messed something, don't know what, can one with advanced skills help me?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | elPuma
[14:36] <elPuma> ubottu does nomodeset take an argument? e.g. nomodeset=driverName
[14:38] <yeats> elPuma: just nomodeset will do it
[14:58] <dex1983> ok thanks osse
[15:00] <dex1983> now it works
[15:00] <dex1983> how I can add more filetypes? mv !(*.txt)
[15:01] <dex1983> with  | ?
[15:10] <osse> dex1983: yes
[15:11] <dex1983> great :-)
[15:26] <b247_eu> can't reach a machine on the same network (no icmp, no ssh), can one help?
[15:33] <tomreyn> b247_eu: which of the two is an ubuntu system?
[15:35] <b247_eu> @tomreyn: the client (a thinkpad laptop running #ubuntu 20.04)
[15:35] <tomreyn> b247_eu: and the server is what you can't reach?
[15:36] <tomreyn> b247_eu: should that server be running an ssh server? have you been able to connect to it previously? is it a headless server?
[15:37] <b247_eu> I have a problem with #ubuntu-desktop if that matters, the server (which is 18.04  headless) can be reached from other machines inside same LAN (a win machine, another ubuntu 20.04 and even my android)
[15:38] <b247_eu> to be clear, if willing to help ... i have a networking problem ONLY with one ubuntu (the thinkpad laptop) inside lan
[15:40] <b247_eu> the one using right now with hexchat, my daily driver ... the server is reachable, forget about it, it's just networking (one that hurts) problem on my daily ubuntu20.04 driver
[15:42] <b247_eu> so if one have advanced linux skills regarding networking (in general, #ubuntu in special) please guide me, some true advices will help
[15:42] <tomreyn> "reachable" how, though? which protocols and applications are you using to connect? and which error messages do you see on the client which cannot connect?
[15:43] <tomreyn> you mentioned icmp, ssh, i'm just trying to get some more details.
[15:43] <b247_eu> ICMP, SSH
[15:45] <tomreyn> so the server has sshv2 listening on tcp port 22, i assume. and when you try to connect there from the ubuntu 20.04 system, you get to see which error messages?
[15:45] <b247_eu> to be cleasr, the problem is not on the server side as long i can ping and ssh from another device (except my laptop) inside same LAN (subnet)
[15:45] <tomreyn> right
[15:46] <b247_eu> @tomreyn, not even ping works from #ubuntu-thinkpad to any other LAN device ....
[15:47] <tomreyn> b247_eu: i got so much. does it work the other way around?
[15:47] <b247_eu> somehow ... don't know ... is like a firewall rejects same subnet outbound packets ...
[15:48] <tomreyn> you're providing more details,which is good, but you're not really answering my questions. can you try to answer some?
[15:48] <tomreyn> if you cannot, just say why not, that'S fine, too.
[15:49] <b247_eu> "does it work the other way around?" - you mean if I can ping #thinkpad from #server?
[15:50] <tomreyn> yes, also from any of the other systems on the same network which can ping the server fine.
[15:50] <b247_eu> just a moment to check
[15:54] <b247_eu> @tomreyn, checked, can't reach my #thinkpad from #server or any other networked device (#thinkpad with ufw disabled/enabled)... could be an iptables culprit?
[15:55] <tomreyn> b247_eu: this suggests that the ubuntu 20.04 thinkpad is either firewalled, or its network configuration is incorrect.
[15:55] <tomreyn> b247_eu: do you have a firewall configured on this system?
[15:58] <b247_eu> is ufw (disabled now) but once i've play with iptables to open and forward some ports .... I'm a noob regarding iptables so i may messed up something with iptables, forwarding, etc ...
[15:58] <tomreyn> sudo iptables --flush
[15:59] <tomreyn> does it help you reach the server via icmp echo requests ("ping")?
[16:00] <b247_eu> nope ...
[16:00] <b247_eu> btw, arping works ... but not helping me
[16:01] <b247_eu> ARPING <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:01] <b247_eu> 60 bytes from b8:27:eb:a2:63:01 (<IP_ADDRESS>): index=0 time=2.807 msec
[16:01] <b247_eu> ARPING <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:01] <b247_eu> 60 bytes from b8:27:eb:a2:63:01 (<IP_ADDRESS>): index=0 time=2.807 msec
[16:01] <tomreyn> !paste | b247_eu
[16:02] <tomreyn> run this:   sudo iptables -L
[16:02] <tomreyn> and tell us which chains there are
[16:03] <tomreyn> and for each chain, how many ACCEPT and REJECT and DROP rules there are
[16:03] <b247_eu> a lot of lines here ... can i post the content on pastebin?
[16:03] <tomreyn> you could, if you had network access
[16:04] <tomreyn> but i don't think you have
[16:05] <tomreyn> does this report soemthing about "succeeded!"?   nc -vz <IP_ADDRESS> 9999
[16:05] <jymmmm> Anyone have any suggestions for a menubar stats meter? (cpu,mem, etc)
[16:09] <tomreyn> b247_eu: are you still working on this?
[16:09] <b247_eu> network crashed after iptables flush
[16:09] <tomreyn> what does "network crashed" mean?
[16:10] <b247_eu> no dns
[16:10] <tomreyn> that wouldn't prevent you from running   nc -vz <IP_ADDRESS> 9999
[16:11] <tomreyn> ...and reporting what it outputs
[16:13] <b247_eu> i don;t even have icmp response for the ip you want netcat to run on
[16:13] <b247_eu> so i quess hexchat still works.... everything else no ...
[16:14] <tomreyn> icmp is a different protocols, and not what i suggested to run
[16:14] <tomreyn> <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip address of termbin.com, the idea is to have you test whether you can connect therte to share your configuration
[16:15] <tomreyn> you don''t need to have icmp 'work' to set up a tcp connection (which is what nc does by default)
[16:16] <tomreyn> when you seek help, it's best to just do what's suggested (although it's fine to ask why before you do, of course). and if you reach a point where you decide not to, you should state so, so that alternatives can be considered.
[16:17] <tomreyn> what you do instead is to run other commands, trying to evaluate the situation with limited understanding of what you're doing, and then reporting back what running those other commands resulted in.
[16:17] <tomreyn> that's not a good way to solve problems.
[16:18] <tomreyn> b247_eu: ^
[16:18] <tomreyn> so far you did this at least twice. i'm happy to try once more.
[16:19] <b247_eu> sorry, i'm back ....
[16:19] <b247_eu> running right now the nc command
[16:19] <b247_eu> Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> 9999 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
[16:20] <tomreyn> okay, now:    nc -vz termbin.com 9999
[16:20] <b247_eu> Connection to termbin.com 9999 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
[16:20] <tomreyn> apparently you can copy and paste the output from this computer to irc, too
[16:21] <tomreyn> iptables -L | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:21] <b247_eu> my #thinkpad computer dosen't have a problem connecting to outside world, only to local home ...
[16:21] <tomreyn> this will post your iptables configuration to termbin.com
[16:21] <tomreyn> that's a good piece of information to provide
[16:21] <tomreyn> but then we just found this out, too.
[16:22] <b247_eu> https://termbin.com/fp880
[16:22] <tomreyn> okay, so that's all ufw chanins
[16:22] <tomreyn> *chains
[16:23] <b247_eu> "can't reach a machine on the same network (no icmp, no ssh), can one help?"
[16:23] <tomreyn> sudo iptables -L --line-numbers | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:24] <b247_eu> https://termbin.com/c6ss
[16:24] <tomreyn> the above statement is a statment about local connectivity. it does not provide information on whether or not other networks can be reached, or services there accessed.
[16:25] <tomreyn> have you tried disabling ufq?
[16:25] <tomreyn> i mean ufw
[16:25] <b247_eu> disabled right now
[16:25] <b247_eu> with ufw disable
[16:26] <tomreyn> the easiest thing to do would be uninstalling ufw, rebooting (or just flushing iptables).
[16:27] <tomreyn> you have changed default policies to DROP for INPUT and FORWARD chains.
[16:39] <b247_eu> @tomreyn, still there? I've purged ufw, now I have only 3 chains in iptables, all with policy ACCEPT
[16:39] <cYnIxX3> I setup a ramdisk in unraid, copied fstab to /boot and added what I wanted, Put in go to copy fstab then mount -a. The fstab file gets copied but mount doesnt work. I have to do it manually. Thoughts on what I need to change?
[16:39] <tomreyn> b247_eu: oh, i just saw you leaving. ok, so can you ssh into the server now?
[16:39] <b247_eu> rebooted the computer
[16:41] <tomreyn> cYnIxX3: "unraid" is not ubuntu. are you asking about an ubuntu system?
[16:41] <cYnIxX3> I am asking about unraid, ubuntu doesnt have go config files.
[16:41] <tomreyn> cYnIxX3: then you're asking on the wrong channel, try to find an unraid support channel.
[16:42] <tomreyn> !alis
[16:42] <cYnIxX3> ah
[16:42] <b247_eu> @tomreyn, NOPE, no ping, no ssh, no nc ... i can't event ping the GW
[16:42] <yawa> cYnIxX3: go to #unraid son
[16:42] <cYnIxX3> yes, channels are right next to each other in my list, my bad.
[16:43] <yawa> ah I've done the same mistakes
[16:43] <tomreyn> b247_eu: is the Ubuntu 20.04 thinkpad able to set up a tcp connection to <IP_ADDRESS>:9999 though?
[16:43] <b247_eu> yes
[16:43] <b247_eu> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlp3s0
[16:43] <b247_eu> and this is the ip route
[16:44] <tomreyn> b247_eu: sudo iptables -L --line-numbers | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 9999
[16:44] <b247_eu> https://termbin.com/eh8r
[16:46] <tomreyn> less than i expected, but should be fine with everything set to ACEEPT
[16:47] <tomreyn> ip r | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:47] <tomreyn> ip l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:47] <tomreyn> ^ both of these
[16:48] <b247_eu> https://termbin.com/4pc5
[16:48] <b247_eu> https://termbin.com/yxdmo
[16:49] <b247_eu> could be ipsec the problem?
[16:50] <b247_eu> my god
[16:50] <b247_eu> just stopped ipsec daemon and is working ....
[16:51] <tomreyn> it's a good idea to mention it when you run non default services. i guess i should have asked.
[16:51] <tomreyn> but i'm glad you realized this way.
[16:53] <b247_eu> i'm sorry ... i needed ipsec (and still need) to connect to my company office and installed at the start of covid to be able to work from home ...
[16:56] <b247_eu> @tomreyn, thank you for your patience and help provided
[16:56] <tomreyn> b247_eu: you're welcome.
[16:57] <tomreyn> when you try to fix problems, and can't seem to make progress, always try to reduce complexity, as you just did by removing ufw. helps a lot seeing clearly.
[17:01] <tomreyn> cross checking is generally a good approach, but in this case, where just one bit needs to be flipped to break it, it's not so helpful.
[17:01] <tomreyn> oh, that last line was meant to go elsewhere
[18:09] <dandersson> I have a bug report at Launchpad <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pip/+bug/1833229> that has been marked as "Fix released", though that only applies for 20.04 and later -- my main problem concerns 18.04.
[18:09] <dandersson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20statuses says on the "Fix released" status: "If the bug stills affects an older Ubuntu release, please nominate it for that series. Otherwise people won't know it isn't fixed there!". How can I do that? I don't see an option at Launchpad to denote a specific version.
[18:15] <tomreyn> dandersson: you cannot, unless you have a higher permissions level.
[18:16] <tomreyn> you options: point out that bionic remains unfixed on the bug report (this has already been done), post a new bug report from a bionic system, referring to the existing bug report, but adding it remains unfixed on bionic.
[18:17] <tomreyn> the latter is more likely to sicceed and less likely to annoy developers.
[18:40] <dandersson> tomreyn: Thanks! I'll consider my options.
[18:52] <Petfrogg> hello
[18:52] <Petfrogg> when ubuntu does a check for security update - where can I find the result of that in a file?
[18:54] <Petfrogg> some sort of temp file somewhere that it logs to?
[18:57] <oerheks> this gives succesfull update check; stat -c %y /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-success-stamp
[18:58] <oerheks> also unattended updates; sudo cat  /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log
[19:00] <oerheks>  /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/history.log do not show attempts to update without any packages installed.
[19:04] <Petfrogg> hm
[19:05] <Petfrogg> whenever I log in using ssh I can see messages that shows that there are updates to install
[19:05] <Petfrogg> neither of those files does that
[19:05] <Petfrogg> from what I can see
[19:06] <Petfrogg> I am missing something oerheks
[19:12] <oerheks> Not sure that is logged..
[19:12] <Petfrogg> hm
[19:13] <Petfrogg> looking at the unattended-upgrades right now.
[19:13] <Petfrogg> hmm
[19:18] <Petfrogg> could do a command in Monit doing "apt-get dist-upgrade -s"
[19:20] <oerheks> in 20.04 i would switch to full-upgrade
[19:20] <Petfrogg> but these are servers
[19:20] <Petfrogg> and they are running ubuntu 18lts
[19:22] <epsilonKNOT> anyone here using gtkgreet or cage ?
[19:23] <fromBeyond> hi. is there a way for me to increase the volume from the terminal? I also want it to give me a popup. I am using ubuntu 20.04
[19:24] <fromBeyond> to clarify my wording: I would like to have an as if behaviour, meaning, as if I pressed the volume up button
[19:24] <oerheks> epsilonKNOT, is gtkgreet in our repos? cannot find such..
[19:24] <epsilonKNOT> ah, unfortunate
[19:24] <epsilonKNOT> no worries
[19:26] <oerheks> fromBeyond, 'alsamixer' can do that, a gui in terminal, or; amixer -D pulse sset Master 100%
[19:26] <Petfrogg> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -s | grep upgraded
[19:27] <fromBeyond> oerheks, yes. sorry if my wording was poor. I tried with pulse set, but i do not get the pop-up
[19:28] <oerheks> use alsamixer then?
[19:29] <fromBeyond> amixer -D pulse sset Master 5%+ I tried this command. It does increase the sound, but i get no popup
[19:30] <oerheks> interesting..
[19:31] <oerheks> i know nothing about such popup, why don't you use the normal volume tool?
[19:31] <oerheks> why in terminal?
[19:31] <ioria> fromBeyond, have you tried 'xdotool key XF86AudioRaiseVolume' ?
[19:32] <oerheks> and should such popup be handled by the mouse/touchpad?
[22:10] <bray90820> I assume the answer is yes but is it possable to install and use samba on a live usb so I can test some things
[22:11] <oerheks> go ahead, try it..
[22:11] <oerheks> .. maybe you need to reboot to let things take effect
[22:12] <bray90820> Because I am haing an issue where files don't copy correctly on a samba server running with 20.04 seems to work fine tho with 18.04
[22:13] <oerheks> you do understand live iso works as single user?
[22:17] <bray90820> I did not but actually it doesn't matter anymore because I do have a second install I can try that I forgot about
[22:48] <x033gg> Question did Ubuntu ever remove the Amazon Lenses from Unity, or is that still a thing with Ubuntu?
[23:14] <exell> Hi, can anyone tell me how to change my network adaptor from my pci to the usb one? It's showing in lsusb but I can only connect to the internal PCI card
[23:15] <jeremy31> exell: is the USB one supported by the kernel
[23:15] <exell> It should be, it was listed as Linux compatible on Amazon @jeremy31
[23:16] <exell> Bus 001 Device 011: ID 0bda:b812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 802.11ac NIC
[23:16] <jeremy31> exell: post URL from terminal for>  lsmod | grep cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:17] <exell> @jeremy31 https://termbin.com/8izpu
[23:17] <jeremy31> exell: issues with the internal wifi?
[23:19] <exell> No, I'm trying to change adaptor from internal wifi adapter to the new usb wifi adapter but I don't know how @jeremy31
[23:20] <jeremy31> exell: what result from terminal for>  mokutil --sb-state
[23:20] <exell> @jeremy31 not found, i'll install and try again
[23:21] <jeremy31> exell: dont bother
[23:21] <jeremy31> exell: there are four commands to run at https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1867381#p1867381
[23:23] <exell> @jeremy31 ran and installed
[23:25] <jeremy31> exell: reboot and come back
[23:27] <exell> @jeremy31 I've restarted
[23:28] <jeremy31> exell: post URL for>  lsmod | grep cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:29] <exell> @jeremy31 https://termbin.com/0jzyv
[23:29] <jeremy31> exell: URL>  dkms status | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:30] <exell> @jeremy31 https://termbin.com/a24i
[23:31] <jeremy31> exell: URL for>  dmesg | grep 8812 | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:32] <exell> @jeremy that didn't work
[23:33] <exell> @jeremy31 it doesn't produce a link, it just goes to the next line
[23:34] <jeremy31> exell: strange as I know that github supports your device but for some reason the driver doesn't load
[23:34] <jeremy31> exell: what about>  dmesg | grep 88XXau | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:35] <exell> @jeremy31 nope, when I just enter dmesg it does a list of stuff
[23:36] <jeremy31> exell: Is Ubuntu installed in UEFI mode or Legacy for older machines?
[23:38] <exell> @jeremy31 do you want me to private link my whole dmesg... UEFI mode, I have a dual boot but linux is my primary, windows is only for games/photoshop/label printer
[23:40] <jeremy31> exell: no I just remembered that is an rtl8822bu device not rtl8812au, have to find the github source that works
[23:41] <jeremy31> exell: see https://askubuntu.com/a/1273142/300665
[23:52] <jeremy31> exell: if you get no errors running that reboot
[23:54] <exell> @jeremy31 I think that worked, I don't know how to check what adaptor I'm using but I done a speed test and I'm getting 516Mbs which is higher than my other adaptor so it appears to be fixed
[23:54] <jeremy31> exell: post URL for>  lsmod | grep cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:55] <exell> https://termbin.com/8hql
[23:57] <jeremy31> exell: It doesn't show the driver from github as loaded
[23:58] <jeremy31> exell: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[23:58] <exell> @jeremy31 thats strange, but I'm definitely getting full speed, where before I was only getting 350Mbs
[23:58] <jeremy31> exell: maybe URL for> lsmod | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:59] <exell> https://termbin.com/m58l0


[13:26] <mne> Hi, I just tried to build a root image using the script available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch. Unfortunately, it failed: http://rafb.net/p/aVOgpS89.html
[13:27] <ogra> Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'ports.ubuntu.com'
[13:27] <mne> The reason for this seems to be that qemu's network is not connected to the ...
[13:27] <mne> yes. What should I do so that the qemu image can connect to the world ?
[13:27] <ogra> it does use an internal NAT by default
[13:28] <ogra> so if your host is connected properly qemu will as well
[13:28] <mne> That would be fine. However, while the ubuntu machine on which I run the script has network connectivity, the qemu image still doesn't
[13:28] <ogra> do you use any http proxy ?
[13:28] <mne> no
[13:29] <mne> Also there is no firewall or anything else. On the machine can ping, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and all these things
[13:30] <mne> However, the ubuntu installation is running inside a vmware if that matters
[13:30] <mne> the network interface is bridged so that it has full access to the LAN
[13:30] <ogra> hmm, that might be it then
[13:31] <ogra> 1144 to 1168 show its properly configuring the network
[13:31] <ogra> your vmware might not hand over dns data here
[13:31]  * ogra has never used the script inside a VM ... i surely know it works on a native setup
[13:32] <mne> does the script set up its own dhcp server ? The <IP_ADDRESS> network is not on my lan.
[13:32] <ogra> no, thats qemu's default setup
[13:33] <mne> I'll have a look at the qemu config. So far I just installed it but did not change the default config
[13:33] <ogra> <IP_ADDRESS> is your host ... <IP_ADDRESS> is NATed
[13:33] <ogra> vmware is blocking something here
[13:34] <mne> is there some test image I could run in qemu to explore the situation ?
[19:57] <Martyn> Afternoon all
[19:57] <Martyn> Does ubuntu have to do anything special to deal with TrustZone?
[19:57] <Martyn> i.e. does it run untrusted, or does it have to run certain things through TrustZone?
[19:59] <suihkulokki> is TrustZone even publicly documented?
[20:00] <Martyn> Yes, sort of.
[20:00] <Martyn> Since it performs a kind of virtualization, in order to access certain hardware you kind of have to stop the entire kernel context, reach over through TrustZone ...
[20:01] <Martyn> Linux based phones like the Motorola A1200 and others, must be making use of it somehow...


[18:38] <qsuscs> how can i check whether i am in a bazaar repo/checkout (whatever the appropriate term may be) in a script?
[18:40] <beuno> qsuscs, sure, using bzrlib
[18:42] <qsuscs> beuno: how? i’m looking for something easy, such as:  bzr status || die "not in a repo"
[18:43] <beuno> qsuscs, is this from a python script?
[18:43] <qsuscs> beuno: no, makefile
[18:44] <beuno> qsuscs, then yes, call bzr status
[20:06] <fullermd> May wanna use 'bzr root' or the like instead, since status would have to scan the whole tree.  Not that it'd matter on smaller projects, but...
[21:50] <nopf> hi. can i define additional location aliases to more easily push/pull to/from a secondary/backup location? like somehow define :backup ? why not?


[18:24] <infinity> ogra_: You can turn back on omap server if you want, especially if you're testing it.
[18:24] <infinity> ogra_: I was trying to eliminate things we never/rarely get testing on, mostly.