[12:00] <dyce> btw im logged in in terminal as root
[12:00] <djm62> dyce: do you kno?w what module it should be
[12:00] <dyce> no
[12:00] <dyce> im clueless
[12:00] <dyce> wait
[12:00] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install vrms
[12:00] <dyce> actually
[12:00] <ompaul> now there is a challange
[12:00] <nickrud> RustyShackleford: try it again, but sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <pune> hey does anyone know why I can't get my hp printer/scanner to work with xsan?
[12:00] <dyce> this site
[12:00] <dyce> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html
[12:00] <ompaul> 2 non-free packages, 0.1% of 1912 installed packages
[12:00] <dyce> they had a list
[12:01] <dyce> of compatible cards
[12:01] <dyce> and it showed mine
[12:01] <dskinner> help
[12:01] <flodine> how can i get better fps
[12:01] <waseem> abcde didnt seem to wor
[12:01] <waseem> k
[12:01] <rmilun> what is init mode for ubuntu,to boot only in console mode,not to start X?
[12:02] <dskinner> anyone here that can help me
[12:02] <waseem> and sound-juicer doesnt convert into mp3
[12:02] <Quest-Master> InitMass: I am using Quanta at this second with Gnome ;)
[12:02] <dskinner> I am a neewbie to linux
[12:02] <dskinner> I just installed ubuntu
[12:02] <cavediver> rmilun: 3
[12:02] <stevenj> Quest-Master, have you tried bluefish for gnome
[12:02] <dyce> djm62: for kubuntu there is kwifisetup
[12:02] <RustyShackleford> Where do I run it at.  It won't open in "run command"
[12:02] <rmilun> ah,thanks cavediver
[12:02] <waseem> actually, how do i make it so that abcde converts tracks into mp3?
[12:02] <Zugot> |QuaD-: thanks for the link
[12:02] <dskinner> and have no clue how to get java working
[12:02] <rmilun> dskinner,i just installed ubuntu too :)
[12:02] <dyce> djm62: for kubuntu there is kwifisetup, but for gnome what is there?
[12:02] <InitMass> Quest-Master, there is always bluefish
[12:02] <Quest-Master> stevenj: Yes. I still prefer Quanta though, since remote saving works with it
[12:03] <ompaul> dskinner, is that with a browser?
[12:03] <dskinner> yes
[12:03] <stevenj> Quest-Master, i see
[12:03] <|QuaD-> Zugot: np
[12:03] <ompaul> dskinner, have you downloaded the package?
[12:03] <nickrud> RustyShackleford: open a konsole, and try typing the sudo etc line
[12:03] <Quest-Master> I'd probably be using Kubuntu right now if it wasn't so buggy atm.
[12:03] <dskinner> yes
[12:04] <cavediver>  K
[12:04] <cavediver> Is it possible to disable that recent document feature ?
[12:04] <dyce> this sux
[12:04] <ompaul> dskinner, have you run `sudo sh package_name` yet?
[12:04] <dyce> im going back to windows
[12:04] <dskinner> yes, it says permission denied
[12:04] <cavediver> dyce: why ?
[12:04] <dskinner> I even logged in as root
[12:05] <ice_1963> =)
[12:05] <ompaul> dskinner, what is the exact error?
[12:05] <dskinner> permission denied
[12:05] <ompaul> dskinner, what is the last part of the file name?
[12:05] <waseem> how do i eject the cd?
[12:06] <stevenj> waseem, rightclick on cd and click eject?
[12:06] <waseem> the cd isnt showing up on the desktop
[12:06] <waseem> or in the /media file
[12:06] <dskinner> I downloaded it ended in a .bin
[12:06] <dskinner> I extracted all of it into a tmp folder
[12:07] <ompaul> sudo sh *.bin then
[12:07] <Enkidu> I'm still have problems with sound on my laptop, will anyone assist me?
[12:07] <dskinner> I then went to that folder and saw a configure file and an install file
[12:07] <mika--> waseem: sudo reject /dev/blala
[12:07] <RustyShackleford> Kate keeps crashing.    How do I know it worked?
[12:11] <RustyShackleford> O.K. i've got it entered.  How do I save now?
[12:11] <ompaul> dskinner, you will need to look up google or the wiki on www.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <ompaul> dskinner, your next command is to do some ln -s * /some directories/mozilla or firebird
[12:11] <dskinner> it finished with " done"
[12:11] <Neoman> bye for all
[12:12] <ice_1963> cavediver try apt-cache search poker
[12:12] <ice_1963> ok
[12:12] <nickrud> RustyShackelford: control x, it'll ask if you want to save, say yes
[12:12] <dskinner> how do I find out what to do next
[12:12] <IRCGuest0> hi
[12:12] <IRCGuest0> is ubuntu hiring? :P
[12:12] <IRCGuest0> lol
[12:13] <dskinner> now when I look in the directory I see a new folder
[12:14] <RustyShackleford> O.K.  done.  I'm fixing to restart.  Wish me luck.
[12:14] <ompaul> dskinner http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15/view?searchterm=install%20java <-- that is another way to insure that it is done right
[12:14] <nickrud> Luck
[12:14] <RustyShackleford> Thanks for the help by the way.
[12:16] <pvoce> ugh....I have the "/dev/lp0": Permission Denied error...ve checked permissions of the file and made sure lp, foomatic, and users had access...any ideas?
[12:17] <gratuit> does fat32 have issues with large files? (i.e. over 4 GIGS)
[12:18] <pvoce> ugh...wrong window:(
[12:18] <Bazzi> yes
[12:18] <AndyR> gratuit, 2gb file limit iirc
[12:18] <Bazzi> gratuit I think they should already have problems with >2GB
[12:18] <gratuit> ok
[12:18] <pvoce> nopers, heres the error "/dev/lp0": Permission denied
[12:19] <gratuit> what about reiserfs? does it have problems with large files?
[12:19] <pvoce> Ive checked the permissions of the file and made sure proper groups had access to it
[12:20] <Marble2> gratuit: the fat32 limit is actually 4gb
[12:20] <justinlbarnes> Im back.  I still just have 640X480
[12:20] <Sionide> ouch
[12:21] <nickrud> Rusty, look at /etc/X11/Xorg.log, look for *Default mode, it'll tell you more about what X thinks your machine can do
[12:22] <nickrud> Rusty, look at /var/log/Xorg.log, typing too fast, sorry
[12:22] <markuman>  if i have compile something by myself with ./configure make make install and i want to uninstall it? how? with make uninstall it don't work
[12:23] <Bazzi> markuman you got a problem then
[12:23] <markuman> hm
[12:23] <markuman> lol
[12:23] <markuman> not myself, but a friend
[12:23] <gen> bazzi hush
[12:23] <nickrud> markuman: checkinstall instead of make install next time :)
[12:23] <Bazzi> gen? :o
[12:23] <tbird> markuman, you need to try and find rpm or something thats compatable with alien
[12:24] <RustyShackleford> No such file or directory
[12:24] <tbird> kewl ubuntu uses checkinstall
[12:25] <nickrud> Sorry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, sorry
[12:27] <RustyShackleford> O.K. what am I looking for?
[12:28] <fsapo> hi there :)
[12:28] <diaoune> boy am I having fun with ubuntu ;)
[12:28] <fsapo> anyone knows if is there any plugin for gedit to complete php code?
[12:28] <fsapo> diaoune, ubuntu rlz ;)
[12:29] <gen> rlz?
[12:29] <nickrud> What you're looking for is the section where X reports the modes it can handle.
[12:29] <diaoune> any faqs about for installing realplyer plugin for firefox on PPC Ubuntu?
[12:29] <nickrud>  they look like this: *Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz
[12:29] <fsapo> gen, "rules"
[12:30] <cpp> hi
[12:30] <fsapo> anyone knows if there is an auto completion plugin for gedit? for php code...
[12:31] <cpp> can anyone help me with something real quick i just installed ubuntu today
[12:31] <jirwin> hello
[12:31] <cpp> is that a hello to me?
[12:31] <jirwin> I am having trouble installing hoary, as it hangs up at 25% configuring apt in the installation
[12:32] <tbird> jirwin, just wait
[12:32] <tbird> it takes a while
[12:32] <fsapo> jirwin, i had this
[12:32] <jirwin> thanks.
[12:32] <fsapo> jirwin, start with the no dhcp option
[12:32] <fsapo> jirwin, it will skip this process
[12:32] <cpp> anyone know how to install language packs?
[12:32] <jirwin> cpp: synaptic
[12:33] <markuman> someone use linEAK?
[12:33] <cpp> ya i dled them but how to swtich them?
[12:33] <fsapo> jirwin, just press F1 or F2 (i dont remember the correct key) in the first boot screen
[12:33] <markuman> how to mute pcm and opposite of it with same command?
[12:33] <zxc> can you make stuff transparant in ubuntu?
[12:33] <fsapo> jirwin, the look for the no dhcp option and start with this option ;)
[12:33] <jirwin> ok let me try
[12:34] <FR500> markuman:  i think thats kde especific
[12:34] <cpp> can some1 help this noob?
[12:34] <markuman> linEAK? there is a special GUI Config tool. but you can config it in a editor for other windowmanagers
[12:35] <cavediver> where do i set the icons for the different mime-types?
[12:36] <waseem> hey how do i untar a file and run it?
[12:36] <LycoN> Ok my g card should be getting over 150 fps on glxgears
[12:36] <tbird> waseem, man tar
[12:36] <LycoN> i have need drivers too
[12:37] <GammaRay> waseem: tar xvzf <file>
[12:37] <GammaRay> waseem: "running it".. depends
[12:37] <nickrud> cpp: dpkg-l language-pack* , pick one, sudo aptitude install language-pack-??
[12:37] <isai> hi
[12:38] <isai> what's the best way to get realmedia video/audio to work in firefox?
[12:38] <usual> it's so weird, totem-gstreamer/totem-xine/xine play dvd's sort of choppy, but gxine plays them just fine
[12:38] <fsapo> waseem, tar xvf file.tar
[12:38] <nickrud> cpp: make that last part apt-get install language-pack-??, aptitude does not play well with synaptic sometimes
[12:39] <cpp> is there a way to have mozilla like directly to irc when i click on a protocol irc://
[12:41] <synic> hey, I just installed hoary on a thinkpad t23.  When trying to boot, it halts after "Uncompressing the kernel... OK, booting the kernel"
[12:42] <synic> what could be wrong?
[12:42] <Levander> Mount command says a filesystem is mounted via smbfs from another machine on the same network.  The machine the filesystem used to exist on, no longer exists.  Any easy way to get my computer to realize that mount is just not there anymore?  Without rebooting hopefully?
[12:42] <Levander> When I do a umount -f <device name> gives me a few error messages saying "device busy" basically.
[12:43] <Sionide> www.sionide.net/ubuntu.mp3
[12:43] <synic> anyone have any idea?
[12:43] <Bukkake> Ubuntu.mp3? Omg!
[12:44] <Levander> What's ubuntu.mp3?
[12:44] <pvoce> sionide: LOL
[12:44] <Sionide> it's funny...
[12:44] <pvoce> My wife was giving me wierd looks
[12:44] <Sionide> don't spread it around too much though, i don't have *that* much bandwidth
[12:44] <Sionide> heheh
[12:44] <Sionide> it's quality
[12:45] <WW> Isn't that awesome, indeed!
[12:45] <Sionide> made by the guys who do www.lugradio.org - most of them are ubuntu users
[12:46] <dags> heh heh
[12:46] <waseem> what is the extension tag supposed to be for a make file?
[12:46] <Sionide> in fact, that's a clip from the lastest lugradio episode, i highly recommend it..
[12:46] <pvoce> sionide: I was ready to break into a rendition of "Bare Necessities"
[12:46] <Sionide> lol!
[12:46] <WW> waseem: None.  Typically just "Makefile"
[12:46] <Sionide> ...just in case people don't get it - it's a rip off of "Umbongo" which was a cartoned drink, here in the UK. I think they still make it!
[12:47] <Sionide> and the tag line was "they drink it in the congo" and that was the theme tune from the advert
[12:47] <Sionide> absolutely quality...
[12:47] <jirwin> well no such luck for me...
[12:47] <pvoce> sionide: OIC!  now it makes more sense
[12:47] <Aper> hi
[12:47] <Sionide> if you're into opensource and linux, which i assume you are! head over to lugradio.org and check out their shows. they're great
[12:47] <mikeco> lo
[12:47] <Sionide> :P
[12:48] <jirwin> any other ideas why my hoary installation is hanging while configuring apt? it is the exact same spot
[12:48] <pvoce> I work in radio, so I guess I'll have to work on a US(Texan) eiditon
[12:48] <ssam> lug radio is good
[12:48] <Sionide> yeah it bloody is!
[12:48] <ssam> if you dont mind the swearing
[12:48] <Aper> what about this chabbel ?
[12:48] <Sionide> ssam, lol - they're english. it's almost expected :P
[12:48] <mikeco> haha
[12:48] <Sionide> pvoce, glad to know it's still funny even if you don't know about umbongo :D
[12:49] <ssam> i like their fedora vs ubuntu arguments
[12:49] <jirwin> fsapo, do you have any other ideas?
[12:49] <pvoce> sionide: some things are just universal;)
[12:49] <tsume_>
[12:49] <Sionide> ssam, yeah - always a good laugh
[12:49] <ssam> and how they call kubuntu 'ubuntuk'
[12:49] <Sionide> haha
[12:49] <segfault> hello.
[12:50] <Obsidians> When I try to do "apt-get install build-essentials" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?
[12:50] <jirwin> hello
[12:50] <WW> Obsidians: apt-get install build-essential
[12:50] <pvoce> Sionide: So ife they come out with one for people whop deal with explosive materials, would they call it "uBOOMtu"?
[12:51] <Obsidians> WW:
[12:51] <WW> Obsidians: not *-essentials
[12:51] <jirwin> can anyone help me figure out why the installer is hanging on the apt configuration
[12:51] <Sionide> haha
[12:51] <Obsidians> WW: Sorry, yes. That's what I did. No s.
[12:51] <|QuaD-> if i want to fix dpkg -l so thatonly installed packages are listed (ie clean it up, not just use grep) how would i do that?
[12:51] <Obsidians> When I try to do "apt-get install build-essential" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?
[12:51] <Obsidians> Like that.
[12:51] <zxc> can you get transparency of windows in ubuntu??
[12:52] <TQuid> Do I have the right impression that linksys is pretty good about linux?
[12:52] <TQuid> zxc, depends on what window manager you're using.
[12:52] <pvoce> Tquid: Im using a linksys right now
[12:52] <WW> Obsidians: When you say it doesn't do anything, do you get a prompt again, or does the command hang?
[12:53] <jirwin> can anyone help me figure out why my installer i hanging on the apt configuration at the exact same spot everytime?
[12:53] <tbird> jirwin, have you tried using different mirrors?
[12:53] <Obsidians> WW: It just hangs at "0% [Working] " Just sits there.
[12:53] <kyncani> Obsidians: maybe a badly configured firewall ?
[12:54] <TQuid> pvoce:  I have a linksys WMP54G wireless I'm going to be setting up on a new machine, wondering how likely it is to work OTB.
[12:54] <TQuid> jirwin, if you do alt-f2, you should get a console showing more detailed errors.
[12:54] <Obsidians> kyncani: I don't think so, because apt-get has worked on everything else. And I don't have a firewall, except for whatever's on the router.
[12:54] <WW> Obsidians: Do other apt-get commands work, such as "apt-get update"?
[12:54] <pvoce> TQuid: Is the router going to supply the DHCP or is it a stic network?
[12:54] <TQuid> (This is a wireless pci card, they seem a bit goofy)
[12:54] <jirwin> TQuid, i have done that
[12:54] <boyo-atx> does hoary come with bootsplash?
[12:55] <Obsidians> WW: Even install works, for everything but that one package.
[12:55] <TQuid> pvoce, it uses dhcp.
[12:55] <ssam> zxc i think you want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769&highlight=transparent
[12:55] <jirwin> TQuid, I am not sure on the errors
[12:55] <TQuid> jirwin, what's the error, if any, or the last bit of output when it locks up?
[12:55] <kyncani> Obsidians: you can run the command with strace and see where it hangs
[12:55] <sillygirly> i was wondering if anybody could help me
[12:55] <pvoce> Tquid: (K)Ubuntu should have no problems finding the network then, provided the pci wireless is setup correctly
[12:56] <jirwin> TQuid, the only inkling of an error is that it says it fails to set locale
[12:56] <Sionide> mmm that was the trouble i think i had, i'm wired at the mo - i think my pcmcia wireless card is crap to be honest..
[12:56] <sillygirly> i cant hear sound
[12:56] <pvoce> Sionide: laptop?
[12:56] <Sionide> it is yes
[12:57] <sillygirly> sound not working
[12:57] <Obsidians> kyncani: It seems to hang on this, apparently:
[12:57] <jirwin> TQuid, and that doesn't actually say error, it says warning
[12:57] <Obsidians> select(17, [16] , [] , NULL, {0, 500000}) = 0 (Timeout)
[12:57] <Obsidians> gettimeofday({1113692236, 218572}, NULL) = 0
[12:57] <Obsidians> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [WINCH] , [] , 8) = 0
[12:57] <Obsidians> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [] , NULL, 8) = 0
[12:57] <Obsidians> 0% [Working] )          = 1313
[12:57] <Obsidians> select(17, [16] , [] , NULL, {0, 500000}) = 0 (Timeout)
[12:57] <Obsidians> gettimeofday({1113692236, 718393}, NULL) = 0
[12:57] <Obsidians> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [WINCH] , [] , 8) = 0
[12:57] <Obsidians> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [] , NULL, 8) = 0
[12:57] <Obsidians> 0% [Working] )
[12:57] <Sionide> ouch
[12:58] <pvoce> sionide: can you at least register local host?
[12:58] <Obsidians> Just keeps repeating that.
[12:58] <Sionide> mega paste
[12:58] <markuman> :-D
[12:58] <Sionide> err not sure pvoce, i'm not bothered trying it again right this minute.
[12:58] <keyes> hello
[12:58] <keyes> i've a pb with gdm
[12:58] <sillygirly> does anybody else have a sound issue?
[12:58] <TQuid> pvoce, thanks.  I'll try it with the livecd first, gotta upgrade the ram--only have 64MB!
[12:59] <pvoce> sionide: ahhhic...thought you were working on it and typing at another terminal:))
[12:59] <pvoce> Tquid: should be pretty smooth then
[12:59] <Sionide> nah im actually watching the pretty gnome x-screensavers at the moment, very bored... :P
[12:59] <kyncani> Obsidians: if you're a little experienced with c, you can see what this 16 descriptor is
[12:59] <djm62> sillygirly: can you hear sound outside your computer?
[12:59] <kyncani> Obsidians: (next time, use #flood)
[12:59] <keyes> I'm french and i've select "french" il the ubuntu install, all my system is in french but not GDM :s GDM is in english :-S
[12:59] <pvoce> sionide: DOOONNNNTTT LLEEEEETTTT THEEEEMMMM SSSUUUUUCCCKKK TYTYYOOUUUUUU IINNNNNNN:))
[01:00] <WW> Obsidians: Strange.  If you get desperate, you could try bypassing build-essential and get the individual packages.  You probably want gcc. g++, make and libc6-dev.
[01:00] <waseem> when i download tar files to the Desktop, theyre hidden. how do i make them show as icons?>
[01:00] <Sionide> but the one with blue sqaures which fade is just SO COOL
[01:00] <Sionide> seriously. :/
[01:00] <keyes> i've already all locale-fr installed and i've run dpkg-reconfigure locales but nothing :-(
[01:00] <sillygirly> my sound card seems to be correctly identified...  but no sound comes out.
[01:00] <RustyShackleford> I'm back.  So basically, it would just let me load into a command prompt.  I had to reconfig and set it back to 640x480 before I could load the desktop back up.
[01:00] <WW> Obsidians: But even if that works, it is an unsatisfying work-around :(
[01:00] <djm62> sillygirly: have you tried changing the volume-control settings?
[01:00] <sillygirly> yes.
[01:00] <Obsidians> WW: I tried doing G++, and it doesn't seem to go either. Same thing, hangs on 0%.
[01:00] <sillygirly> nothing seems to help
[01:01] <keyes> sillygirly => have u a tuner card, a usb webcam or micro, ... ?
[01:01] <waseem> when i download tar files to the Desktop, theyre hidden. how do i make them show as icons?
[01:01] <sillygirly> no tuner card, yes to usb webcam/mic
[01:01] <pvoce> obsidians: is the machine youre installing on on a network?
[01:01] <sillygirly> i unplugged the webcam hoping that would help... didnt
[01:01] <Jarrette> hey, can anyone tell me how to manually change the screen's resolution? the gnome tool isn't giving me all the options
[01:01] <Obsidians> pvoce: It's on a home network I suppose, yes.
[01:01] <keyes> sillygirly:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1293
[01:01] <pvoce> ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!  PRINTING DOTH VEX ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:02] <sillygirly> thanks! brb
[01:02] <Obsidians> Jarrette: It's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I think.
[01:02] <pvoce> Obsidians: Does it pick up the netowrk as part of the installation?
[01:02] <Jarrette> i tried
[01:02] <Jarrette> it doesn't chnage what the gnome tool's finding
[01:02] <waseem> does anyone know why .tar files arent showing up on the destkop when i download them?
[01:02] <jirwin> Can anyone help me figure out why my hoary installation stalls during the apt configuration at the same spot?
[01:02] <RustyShackleford> My resolution is f'ed up too.  I tried editing but it just let me boot into a command prompt.
[01:03] <Jarrette> it's frustrating, cause i have some obscure resolution right now
[01:03] <kyncani> waseem: because they're downloaded somewhere else ???
[01:03] <jirwin> Jarrette, make sure that your monitor was detected correctly, and includes your refresh ates
[01:03] <waseem> kyncani, they are downloaded onto the Desktop
[01:04] <keyes> noone for help me with my gdm problem ?
[01:04] <jirwin> s/ates/rates
[01:04] <Jarrette> i chose the resolution settings during the install, but i made some bad choices, i jsut want to be able to choose from new ones
[01:04] <jirwin> keyes, what is the problem?
[01:04] <kyncani> Jarrette: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <waseem> i can access it through the terminal
[01:04] <sillygirly> i an a newbie to linux... only a few months total w/ diff distros... i dont understand how to change the first/second devices...
[01:04] <Jarrette> thank you
[01:04] <pvoce> keyes: you might be able to d/l the french for gnome trough synaptic
[01:04] <keyes> jirwin:  all my system is in french (good), but my gdm is in english :-S
[01:04] <keyes> pvoce:  all is downloded
[01:04] <keyes> it's the pb
[01:05] <jirwin> keyes, I would look in synaptic for the language paks
[01:05] <sillygirly> do i need to reinstall w/o the webcam connected?
[01:05] <jirwin> packs*
[01:05] <pvoce> keyes: The desktop or the bootsplash?
[01:05] <keyes> jirwin:  i've all french lang pack installed
[01:05] <sillygirly> #keyes
[01:05] <sillygirly> lol
[01:05] <keyes> pvoce:  gdm
[01:05] <sillygirly> oops
[01:06] <keyes> the desktop manager
[01:06] <pvoce> et gdm pas en francais, dscoord?
[01:06] <keyes> yes
[01:06] <keyes> ;)
[01:06] <cjpro> /join #0,0   <<< Is that channel safe?
[01:06] <pvoce> avez vous KDM?
[01:07] <pvoce> ah...he left
[01:07] <virginie> hi
[01:07] <sillygirly> do i need to reinstall ubuntu w/o having the webcam connected to get the sound to work?
[01:08] <sillygirly> anybody?  please?
[01:08] <keyes> sorry
[01:08] <MacIver> cjpro: sure
[01:08] <pvoce> keyes: np....do you have KDE installed?
[01:08] <keyes> pvoce:  no
[01:08] <keyes> just gnome
[01:08] <sillygirly> alright thanks for all the help... bye
[01:09] <dyce> who has used usb wireless adaptors?
[01:09] <ubuntu> hi
[01:09] <pvoce> keyes: perhaps you can use kdm, since theyre a bit more up on i8ln
[01:09] <virginie> does someone know why when i disconnect from gnome the monitor is black and i must reboot the computer even a Ctrl+Alt+Fn doesnt work :( did someone get this problem ?
[01:10] <keyes> pvoce:  i don't like kdm
[01:10] <pvoce> virginie: which desktop manager are you using?
[01:10] <keyes> i prefere gdm in english :)
[01:10] <virginie> GNOME it's the default ...
[01:10] <waseem> ok im trying to install a program but i need tcl
[01:10] <pvoce> keyes: lol youre loyal:)
[01:10] <waseem> how do i install tcl?
[01:11] <crimsun> waseem: aptitude install tcl8.4-dev
[01:11] <pvoce> virginie: do you boot striaght to your desktop or do you have to log on first
[01:11] <virginie> pvoce i'm using gdm
[01:11] <monkey89> I have a rule for my logitech mouse to run a certain command in /etc/udev/rules.d/logitech-mice.rules - problem is, it isn't ran when I reboot my computer, but if I do /etc/init.d/udev restart, it works - any ideas?
[01:11] <pvoce> virginie: it sounding like your gdm is failing to restart when you log out
[01:11] <kyncani> waseem: which program are you trying to install ?
[01:11] <virginie> pvoce, but it's really weird ...
[01:12] <virginie> pvoce, the screen goes black and I cant do anything .... even try to goes to console it doesnt allow or maybe it does but i cant see it
[01:12] <pvoce> virginie: before you log out, try doing this: Open up a terminal and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", then log out
[01:13] <pvoce> virginie: you SHOULD get to a simple cl when you log out of gnome
[01:13] <virginie> pvoce, i did a gdm restart and it worked ... but when i just disconnect it goes black :(
[01:13] <waseem> kyncani: where is the Tcl librarly location now?
[01:13] <SeamusLP> Is it just me, or is nautilus buggy as hell?
[01:14] <kyncani> virginie: you can try this (blindfolded): go to console, log in, sudo eject /dev/yourcdrom  (and give password). This will tell you if the box is crashed
[01:14] <crimsun> waseem: did you install tcl8.4-dev?
[01:14] <djm62> d'oh!
[01:14] <pvoce> virginie: check your ps and see if the process is staying resident or of its either dying or going zombie
[01:15] <waseem> crimsun: yes
[01:15] <virginie> but how when the screen is black and nothing is working anymore :)
[01:15] <crimsun> waseem: does it only need tcl, or does it need tk, too?
[01:15] <virginie> i've got this in the X log : (II) R128(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend; RGB/Color Display
[01:15] <kyncani> waseem: which program are you trying to install in the first place ? cannot get it with apt ?
[01:17] <waseem> # An implementation of the OpenGL API version 1.1 or greater (Mesa versions >= 3.2 work; see http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net). Note that you will need a hardware-accelerated implementation of OpenGL in order for Tux Racer to be playable.
[01:17] <waseem> # The GLUT library, version 3.7 beta or greater. This is distributed in the MesaDemos package, so if you have installed Mesa you probably also have GLUT. Otherwise, see http://www.opengl.org.
[01:17] <waseem> # Tcl Version 8.0 or greater.
[01:17] <waseem> # (Optional) Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) Version 1.1.1 or greater. This is required for joystick support.
[01:17] <waseem> # (Optional) SDL_mixer Version 1.0 or greater. This is required for sound and music support.
[01:17] <waseem> those are the requirements
[01:18] <waseem> im trying to ./configure it
[01:18] <waseem> im trying to install tuxracer
[01:18] <waseem> heh.
[01:18] <Rhymes> is it safe to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[01:19] <SeamusLP> Rhymes I wouldn't do it, they're switching to GCC4
[01:19] <crimsun> waseem: apt-get build-dep tuxracer
[01:19] <Rhymes> SeamusLP: ok thanks
[01:20] <SeamusLP> Also i was talking to a guy in MOTU and he doesn't believe it's a very good idea -- maybe in a few months he says, if you're brave :)
[01:20] <waseem> wow ok thanks
[01:20] <waseem> what does build-dep do?
[01:20] <kyncani> waseem: or apt-get install tuxracer
[01:21] <SeamusLP> and waseem, do a search for tuxracer in synaptic...
[01:21] <UbuWu> Does anyone know if there is a clipboard deamon/manager in the repositories? (I couldn't find it)
[01:21] <waseem> ya i did it with install
[01:21] <kyncani> waseem: if in the first place you're trying to get tuxracer
[01:21] <SeamusLP> or what kyncani said :)
[01:21] <kyncani> :)
[01:22] <kyncani> waseem: in fact, don't install anything manually if it's available with ssynaptic unless you cannot do otherwise
[01:22] <waseem> ok
[01:22] <waseem> its really laggy
[01:22] <waseem> any reason for that?
[01:23] <kyncani> waseem: sure you're using harware 3d accel ?
[01:23] <waseem> kyncani: i have no clue
[01:23] <justinlbarnes> I'm back.  Still no luck.
[01:23] <LycoN> How do i stop rendering with MesaGL but with my ATI card?
[01:24] <kyncani> waseem: what does  glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'  tells you ?
[01:25] <waseem> no
[01:25] <RustyShackleford> This screen resolution is kicking my ass.
[01:25] <kyncani> waseem: well, you don't have hardware 3d accel :)
[01:25] <LycoN> Can anyone tell me how I can change fglrxinfo from saying i am rendering with MesaGL...it should say i am rendering with ATI 9800 Pro
[01:25] <kyncani> waseem: (or at least not enabled)
[01:26] <waseem> kyncani: assuming i have it, how would i enable it?
[01:26] <kyncani> waseem: what graphic card ?
[01:26] <waseem> heh um...
[01:26] <waseem> how would i find that out?
[01:26] <kyncani> waseem: you don't know if you have nvidia or ati ?
[01:27] <waseem> kyncani: sadly no
[01:27] <copilot> Is there a way to reset the sound? If I leave my computer up for a few days the audio gets quieter and quieter
[01:27] <kyncani> waseem: well, you can find out with lspci, or hal-device-manager i think
[01:28] <thread> anybody know about SD card readers in laptops?
[01:28] <thread> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8381
[01:28] <thread> I posted at the end of that thread
[01:28] <LycoN> kyncani: hey
[01:28] <djm62> copilot: really?
[01:28] <djm62> copilot: that's the strangest thing I've ever heard
[01:29] <kyncani> LycoN: i don't have ati, don't know. But you may find some ubuntu howto with google
[01:29] <LycoN> thanks
[01:30] <LycoN> hey but still how did u change ur OpenGL rendering to nvidia
[01:30] <waseem> GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[01:30] <waseem> i think its nVidia
[01:31] <kyncani> LycoN: well, i just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and the nvidia driver was there
[01:31] <djm62> apt-get install more-sound
[01:31] <kyncani> waseem: see just aboce @
[01:31] <kyncani> ^
[01:31] <waseem> whats that?
[01:31] <copilot> Right now, everything is all the way up, and it's barely audible to watch a movie, but I'm gonna restart and full volume will be deafening.
[01:32] <kyncani> waseem: i think if you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, you can choose the nvidia driver
[01:32] <Abood> hi all, guys im newbie to ubuntu i was using another dirsto and tonight i installed ubuntu but i dont know i think that i had installed it correctly, but when its loads the setting its gives me at the end a moving small windows writtien in it " Sincronismo errato" any idea about this thing ?
[01:32] <waseem> kyncani: how do i make it so that i can just choose the nvidia driver
[01:33] <kyncani> waseem: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose the nvidia driver
[01:33] <djm62> Abood: do you know what that would be in english?
[01:33] <ratius> does anyone here is playing World of Warcraft on Linux?
[01:34] <Abood> djm62 i have the same proplem i dont know what does it means :( or why it appears suddnly ?!
[01:35] <Abood> any idea guys, plz need support with ubuntu :(
[01:35] <waseem> kyncani: select the desired X server driver
[01:35] <waseem> which one should i choose?
[01:35] <kyncani> waseem: ?? nvidia !
[01:35] <MaCaDe> sincronismo errato = sync error, or something?
[01:36] <djm62> Abood: did it finish installing?
[01:36] <waseem> kyncani: i already looked for that, there is no nvidia
[01:36] <waseem> there is ati however
[01:36] <waseem> should i choose that?
[01:36] <kyncani> waseem: hmmm, you're using hoary ?
[01:37] <waseem> yes
[01:37] <kyncani> waseem: and you do have either linux-386 or 586 or 686 installed ?
[01:37] <jirwin> hello
[01:37] <jirwin> what is the best way to go about upgrading from warty to hoary?
[01:38] <Abood> djm62: yes and suddenly the window appears !!!, i dont know, man its like the windows that appears whem ur screen turned on and ur pc turned off it moves to every corner
[01:38] <djm62> Abood: oh....
[01:38] <kyncani> waseem: try: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:38] <tbird> jirwin, edit sources.list change all entrys from warty to hoary
[01:38] <djm62> Abood: that sounds like it's your monitor  not working with X
[01:38] <jirwin> tbird: is there something like distupgrade?
[01:39] <tbird> jirwin, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:39] <jirwin> tbird, what does that do?
[01:39] <waseem> kyncani: command not found
[01:39] <djm62> Abood: try ctrl-alt-f1 and see if you get a text console
[01:39] <tbird> upgrades you to hoary
[01:39] <jirwin> tbird, after I change the sources?
[01:39] <tbird> yes
[01:39] <jirwin> thanks :)
[01:39] <tbird> np
[01:40] <Abood> djm62 hows that dude, its was working with the other dirstubtions and with xp too its new compaq 17 inc ??
[01:40] <kyncani> waseem: howto at this page: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <djm62> Abood: this might be the first distro you've used with X.org instead of xfree86
[01:41] <Abood> djm62: idont know
[01:41] <Abood> i translated the world its means that "wrong sincronismo"
[01:41] <djm62> Abood: can you get a text console by doing ctrl-alt-f1?
[01:42] <tle> good morning everyone!
[01:43] <k-otik> good evening everyone
[01:43] <Abood> djm62 : i dont know i will try, so if i get it what shall i write or to do ?!
[01:43] <djm62> Abood: I think (correct me anyone) you want to do that, then log in, then type dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:44] <tle> Can someone here check up for me why gcc-4.0 does not link libstdc++6-dev (instead gcc3.4 is linked)?
[01:44] <djm62> Abood: "sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:45] <Abood> djm62: ok let me restart my pc and try it , brb
[01:45] <tle> djm62: Abood: the bug with screen solution is bug #5197, WIP bug
[01:45] <k-otik> in ssh how do i copy a file to my computer from the remote computer?
[01:45] <k-otik> cp /dld/file.png then what
[01:45] <djm62> tle: thanks
[01:45] <Cwiiis> Hi all - Anyone here using breezy?
[01:46] <tle> T_T
[01:46] <kyncani> k-otik: use scp
[01:46] <tle> can someone help me with GCC4 and libstdc++6-dev? they don't depend on each other, tell me how to link them??!!
[01:46] <k-otik> awesome
[01:49] <djm62> tle: bug #5197 on whose bugzilla?
[01:50] <tle> Ubuntu
[01:50] <djm62> pyc and pyo files?
[01:51] <tle> djm62: 5917
[01:51] <tle> sorri
[01:51] <IRCGuest0> this not really ubuntu related but
[01:51] <Cwiiis> Anyone using breezy and having trouble with usb storage devices? dmesg shows that they're detected, but no devices are made for me, anyone have any ideas?
[01:51] <IRCGuest0> im typing a resume and it has to be 10 pt font to fit everything
[01:51] <IRCGuest0> is 10 pt fine?
[01:52] <tle> ya
[01:52] <tle> make it 1 page resume' is the best
[01:52] <IRCGuest0> tle the problem is :  Im out of space
[01:52] <IRCGuest0> i need to add even more :(
[01:53] <IRCGuest0> tle i cut and pasted my monster resume to wordperfect (with openoffice it didnt come out right)
[01:53] <IRCGuest0> it has large margins
[01:53] <IRCGuest0> i mean large spaces on the top and bottom
[01:54] <Graben> Ok in qt apps, the cursor changes to the default X cursor when selecting or busy signal, I've had the problem sometimes before running straight KDE any one know how to fix this?
[01:54] <djm62> IRCGuest0: 10pt is small...
[01:54] <IRCGuest0> djm62 problem is i cant fit it
[01:54] <IRCGuest0> i pasted from monster to wordperfect and it has large gaps on the top and bottom so i need 10pt
[01:55] <tle> IRCGutst0: the best... now split equally to 2 pages, ...honestly to say, I never like WordPerfect not OpenOffice.org, the best now is still MS Office even though I'm using Linux as my native devel-environment
[01:55] <djm62> IRCGuest0: you might want to change the margins
[01:55] <IRCGuest0> djm62:  hmmm
[01:55] <IRCGuest0> ok ill try that first
[01:55] <djm62> I don't know how you'd do it in WP
[01:55] <IRCGuest0> cant
[01:55] <IRCGuest0> its set to 0
[01:55] <IRCGuest0> and has a big gap
[01:55] <IRCGuest0> oh well 10pt it is
[01:56] <Cwiiis> heh, seems #ubuntu has turned into #resumehelp :p
[01:56] <IRCGuest0> 8.5 x 11 is right?
[01:56] <Quest-Master> Is there anyway I can get Firefox to identify my OS as Windows instead of Linux? I can't download this program because it keeps on saying my OS (Ubuntu) isn't supported, but this app. can be run through Wine
[01:56] <Quest-Master> ;(
[01:56] <djm62> Openoffice is pretty good, but 2.0 will be better...if only I had a reason to use it
[01:56] <IRCGuest0> djm62:  8.5 x 11 is right?
[01:56] <djm62> IRCGuest0: depends on what country you're in
[01:56] <djm62> I don't know them all
[01:57] <IRCGuest0> usa
[01:57] <djm62> don't know for usa
[01:57] <IRCGuest0> djm62 it should be right for usa
[01:57] <djm62> Quest-Master: I think if you do tools->extensions->get extensions you can download a User Agent switcher
[01:58] <Quest-Master> djm62: Thanks
[01:58] <locomorto> you can
[01:58] <locomorto> its called user agent switch or some such
[01:58] <locomorto> switcher*
[01:59] <Kevad> Anybody here know how to get an iBook to wake up from sleep under Ubuntu?  Worked fine with Debian...
[01:59] <tle> hey ppl
[01:59] <zxc> is there anyway to make windows transparent in ubuntu?
[01:59] <tle> is it possible and legal to make DEB RealPlayer 10?
[01:59] <zxc> Kevad, I think I saw something on that, lemme try and find it
[01:59] <djm62> Quest-Master: https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=59
[02:00] <Graben> This is odd, using x chat I can't middle click to paist from a different window in x-chat, only the same one, why?
[02:00] <IRCGuest0> hmm
[02:00] <djm62> tle: I'm almost certain it is...distributing it might be tricky...ask on the helixcommunity.whatever site
[02:00] <Graben> sorry paste not paist
[02:01] <zxc> kevad, thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=75ba81bb2636059fce9751d67e0396a2&t=25264
[02:01] <Cwiiis> Ah, solved my own problem - needed to modprobe sd_mod, if anyone has the same problem
[02:01] <Abood> back djm62
[02:01] <djm62> Abood: any luck
[02:01] <djm62> ?
[02:01] <Abood> man i tried the alt + ctl + f1
[02:01] <Abood> and yes its giving me the none graphical login
[02:01] <Abood> and when i type the sudo dpkg --....
[02:02] <Abood> it told me that its already installed and configured
[02:02] <RustyShackleford> Damn screen resolution problem.  I'm at a stalemate here.
[02:02] <Quest-Master> Is there a way to get WINE to identify itself as Windows XP or Windows 98?
[02:02] <Abood> error encountered while prossesing xserver-xorg ?!?!?!
[02:02] <Abood> so any new djm62 ?
[02:02] <djm62> does anyone know a good tool for configuring X for abood?
[02:03] <Abood> plzz guys i need to run itt
[02:03] <frank> Quest-Master, I think so with a command line option
[02:03] <Abood> and another thing djm62, the ubuntu didnt ask me what root password i want ?!
[02:03] <djm62> Abood: you could try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" in case it works
[02:04] <frank> Abood, there is no root password in ubuntu
[02:04] <djm62> Abood: root has no password in ubuntu...if you want to do root stuff, you use sudo
[02:04] <Abood> aha
[02:04] <djm62> Abood: of course, you _can_ give root a passwd, but you don't need to
[02:04] <RustyShackleford> So, i've tried adding the vertrefresh and horisync rates, but with no luck.  I have no idea what to do.
[02:04] <Abood> ok djm62 : does this way will work ? ""sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"" ??
[02:05] <frank> how do I enable dma for my cdroms and is that the reason why everything is so slow when I burn?
[02:05] <djm62> Abood: it will try to restart X, which might work...try it
[02:06] <nickrud> RustyShackford, hi
[02:06] <RustyShackleford> Hi
[02:06] <Abood> ok brb
[02:06] <nickrud> did you ever have a chance to check the X logs?
[02:06] <Abood> :) switching os
[02:07] <djm62> anyone know a simple console irc client?
[02:07] <RustyShackleford> I found this, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[02:07] <rmilun> djm62,bitchx?
[02:08] <djm62> rmilun: you should ask about your kernel difficulties in here
[02:08] <rmilun> sirc?
[02:08] <RustyShackleford> I followed that, but when I rebooted, it took me to a command prompt.  The desltop wouldn't load up.
[02:08] <rmilun> ah,yes....should i copy whole message,or what?
[02:08] <djm62> where there are people much more experienced than I
[02:08] <djm62> yeah
[02:08] <rmilun> root@ubuntu:~/Intel536-460-1 # make 536ep Module precompile check Current running kernel is: <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 /lib/modules... autoconf.h existsdiff: /boot/vmlinuz.autoconf.h: No such file or directory autoconf.h matches running kerneldiff: /boot/vmlinuz.version.h: No such file or directory version.h matches running kernelcd coredrv; make \ "PSTN_DEF=-DTARGET_SELAH -DTARGET_LINUX -DLINUX" \ 536ep;make[1] : Entering directory `/root/Intel536-460-1/coredrv'cc -DTAR
[02:09] <rmilun> that is what i got when i tried to install intel 536ep modem
[02:09] <siimo> winmodem!
[02:10] <rmilun> yep
[02:10] <jordanau> siimo, that brings back bad memories...
[02:10] <rmilun> siimo:that modem is working perfectly in slackware linux...
[02:10] <siimo> rmilun, doesn't that modem have precompiled drivers in ubuntu
[02:10] <rmilun> no,never saw them?
[02:10] <rmilun> i dont think so
[02:10] <nickrud> That helps, maybe :)
[02:10] <MaCaDe> Hi folks, I have a problem getting my iBook to boot my new Ubuntu 5.04 installation from an external FireWire HD. I've had to install yaboot manually because the installer gave an error doing that. Now, when booting, it kernel-panics with these messages: "pivot_root: No such file or directory" and "/sbin/init: 428: cannot open /dev/console: No such file".
[02:10] <rmilun> dunno,if they exist,maybe you could search them for me,or so?
[02:11] <rmilun> i am desperate ppl :)
[02:11] <MaCaDe> So what do I do now? Tried creating a new initrd to no avail. Any ideas appreciated.
[02:11] <siimo> rmilun, just do what you did in slackware, err wait its failing?
[02:11] <rmilun> yep,same procedure,it failed...
[02:11] <jbailey> MaCaDe: There's Officially no support for booting off of removable drives in Hoary.
[02:12] <jbailey> MaCaDe: If you know which modules you need, you can add them to /etc/mkinitrd/modules
[02:12] <nickrud> RandyShackleford, did you do that bios thing in the wiki?
[02:12] <rmilun> i downloaded:linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-16_i386.deb and linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-16_i386.deb,i tought that is needed....
[02:12] <MaCaDe> jbailey: oic. too bad.. don't really want to destroy my Mac OS X setup. :/
[02:12] <MaCaDe> jbailey: any idea how I figure out which modules I need?
[02:13] <jbailey> MaCaDe: I don't know firewire that well.  I'm guess ieee1394, but I don't know what the usual mass storage drivers are for it./
[02:13] <siimo> rmilun, you using the latest version?
[02:13] <siimo> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/Intel/536/intel-536EP-<IP_ADDRESS>.tgz
[02:13] <rmilun> simmo,no,ubuntu 4.10,that is all i have
[02:13] <RustyShackleford> I edited everything as it said.  I just wonder if I just need to add the horisync and vertrefresh only.
[02:13] <siimo> i mean latest version of the driver rmilun
[02:13] <MaCaDe> jbailey: hmm. I also have a ubunti 4.x live cd (which I used to make the test initrd).. if I do 'lsmod' there, it should give me clues as to the modules, right?
[02:14] <MaCaDe> ubunti = ubuntu
[02:14] <rmilun> well dunno...i use same version i used for my slackware?
[02:14] <nickrud> You're using the file from the wiki?
[02:14] <siimo> rmilun, i just posed the link ^^ look up
[02:14] <jbailey> MaCaDe: Right, that would help.  Especially if you can mount that drive.
[02:14] <RustyShackleford> I'm using this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell
[02:15] <rmilun> siimo,what link?
[02:15] <MaCaDe> jbailey: yep, it mounts automatically when i insert it. thanks for the clue - i'm going to puzzle some more. :)
[02:15] <siimo> rmilun,  http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/Intel/536/intel-536EP-<IP_ADDRESS>.tgz
[02:15] <rmilun> ah,k
[02:15] <nickrud> ok, do   lspci  in a terminal and look for the display controller. Is it an 810?
[02:16] <Kevad> Here goes nothing...
[02:16] <rmilun> are there some drivers in some nice .deb package?
[02:16] <pinS> are there other FTP apps other than gftp
[02:16] <rmilun> i would prefer to get that type of drivers :)
[02:16] <pinS> this gftp thing is driving me insane
[02:16] <Kevad> HHey, it worked
[02:16] <siimo> rmilun, you will have to look around
[02:16] <Kevad> Thanks zxc
[02:17] <Belzebuth> hi
[02:17] <rmilun> well i am looking around....google doesnt know :)
[02:17] <Belzebuth> somebody has concern with screen resolution ???
[02:17] <pinS> anyone recommend ftp apps?
[02:17] <Belzebuth> I have
[02:17] <Belzebuth> very borrowing
[02:18] <dcahrakos> anyone know if there is any known problems with ubuntu and Compaqs, and or intel Celerons?
[02:18] <Belzebuth> I can't go over 1024x768
[02:18] <Belzebuth> and I want 1280x1024
[02:18] <Belzebuth> my tft prefers
[02:19] <djm62> dcahrakos: I'm running it on a compaq nx9020 with intel celeron...works fine
[02:19] <Belzebuth> anybody is aware of this concern ?
[02:19] <RustyShackleford> I see nothing that says 810
[02:19] <nickrud> maybe 845
[02:20] <dcahrakos> djm62 damn, must be my computer then, I cant get it to install, always resets when it gets to uncompressing linux...ok, booting kernel
[02:20] <RustyShackleford> 82845G
[02:20] <djm62> what sort of computer is it?
[02:20] <nickrud> OK, then you're using the right settings, if the wiki is right :)
[02:20] <djm62> dcahrakos: check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsCompaq
[02:20] <siimo> rmilun, ubuntuforums is your friend -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2102
[02:21] <dcahrakos> its not a laptop though
[02:21] <RustyShackleford> I'll try just adding the sync and refreash rates.
[02:21] <djm62> d'oh
[02:21] <siimo> rmilun, what error you got while building when you tried before?
[02:21] <dcahrakos> compaq presario SR1010V celeron 2.8ghz 786MB ram, radeon 9250 video card is my system specs
[02:21] <nickrud> maybe before doing that, move /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way, and
[02:22] <nickrud> running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first, to start from scratch
[02:22] <djm62> dcahrakos: try with noacpi option when you boot
[02:23] <RustyShackleford> I had to run reconfig to get back to the desktop.  So thats taken care of.
[02:23] <siimo> rmilun, ping
[02:23] <nickrud> ha :)
[02:23] <dcahrakos> I tried, noacpi nolacpi, havent tried with just noacpi though
[02:23] <siimo> anyone know if the linux headers are on the warty CD ?
[02:24] <djm62> dcahrakos: if it reboots rather than freezes, it suggests power-management issues
[02:25] <revelater> you have got to be kidding me, there is not a single accounting /billing program out there that compiles correctly in ubuntu!!!
[02:25] <dcahrakos> thats weird
[02:25] <pinS> anyone please recommend ftp clients for me. no gftp
[02:25] <revelater> does anyone do there accounting in linux?
[02:25] <djm62> revelater: accounting or billing? what sort of programme do you want?
[02:26] <revelater> both, or one each it doesn't matter
[02:26] <djm62> revelater: moneydance (in java) is a paid-for application which is meant to be good
[02:27] <revelater> djm62: syaing "meant to" doesn't help...
[02:27] <dragonman> Hi everyone im a newbie
[02:27] <revelater> djm62: and what about free?
[02:27] <jordanau> dragonman, hi
[02:27] <revelater> djm62: is there anything like quickbooks?
[02:27] <djm62> revelater: I'm trying to be helpful...gnucash is good enough for me
[02:28] <djm62> but it sounds like you have more business needs
[02:28] <jordanau> revelater, gnucash
[02:28] <elis> hi dragonman   :)
[02:28] <dragonman> i need some help i downloaded 5.04 x64 iso but i don't know how to make it an iso
[02:28] <revelater> ok will try that then
[02:28] <elis> dragonman: what urning app you  have?
[02:28] <jordanau> dragonman, go to your burning software
[02:29] <dragonman> i unzipped it but its not a true iso or bin/cue file
[02:29] <elis> you don't need to unzip it
[02:29] <dragonman> nero 6.6 ultra
[02:29] <RustyShackleford> Yes, its fixed now.  Thanks for the help nick.
[02:29] <elis> you need to burn it as image
[02:29] <nickrud> I'm glad it worked.
[02:29] <pharaonic_anubis> Is there a guide on installing Anureus under Warty?
[02:29] <pharaonic_anubis> An ubuntu how-to perhaps?
[02:29] <k-otik> what kind of cd burning software does ubuntu come with?
[02:29] <k-otik> doe sit come with any?
[02:30] <dragonman> oh ok thanks i'll try that
[02:30] <jordanau> k-otik, you can get gnomebaker form repos
[02:30] <elis> open nero, and go to recorder -> burn image
[02:30] <dragonman> i appreciate the help guys will try it and get back to u
[02:30] <revelater> djm62: need to download 11 megs..... most of which are part of gnome (ugh)...
[02:30] <elis> good luck
[02:30] <jordanau> dragonman, good luck
[02:31] <djm62> revelater: what are your specific needs?
[02:31] <revelater> manage accounts and billing for me and my clients
[02:32] <djm62> what are you using atm?
[02:33] <revelater> djm62: nothing, i am starting a business, and i don't have much capitol.
[02:34] <SeamusLP> revelater:  I'm not sure if GNUcash will suit your needs, but perhaps you should try it?
[02:34] <revelater> yah, downloading now, but it takes up like 40 megs
[02:34] <djm62> revelater: more lightweight http://www.sql-ledger.org/
[02:34] <SeamusLP> Are you space-limited?
[02:35] <revelater> no, i just don't want so much bulk in my computer
[02:35] <SeamusLP> You can always get rid of it if you find a better alternative
[02:36] <djm62> includes billing features
[02:37] <_troy> linux journal or linux magazine (uk) did a review of financial apps several months ago
[02:37] <_troy> with a slant toward business
[02:37] <Abood> back
[02:37] <_troy> you could prob find an online archive of that article
[02:38] <jordanau> revelater, http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml you should be able to find some links there
[02:38] <Abood> djm62 man i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i entered the configuration window but nothing goes well :S
[02:38] <jordanau> BTW that is an awesome link for windows > linux people
[02:38] <Abood> any solution guys for the x proplem >??!?!
[02:38] <SeamusLP> _troy:  Know of any quickbooks alternatives with an API and the ability to import quickbooks data?
[02:38] <jordanau> Abood, what problem?
[02:39] <_troy> SeamusLP: I am looking for the article, I usually keep that stuff around, not sure right off about the QB import
[02:39] <Abood> jordanau: man with the X confirgration window proplem
[02:39] <Abood> xserver
[02:40] <SeamusLP> _troy:  Been thinking about switching the workplace to linux, it's getting larger and we'll save on the microsoft tax in the long run
[02:41] <_troy> SeamusLP: that 'tax' can be a very good incentive :)
[02:41] <SeamusLP> _troy: Indeed.  It'd be nice to have a quickbooks alternative as well, don't really want to run it under 98 in qemu
[02:42] <Abood> jordanau any solution dude ?!
[02:43] <_troy> SeamusLP: This article I am thinking of did compare against quickbooks I believe
[02:43] <djm62> Abood: you could try using the vesa x server option...no acceleration though
[02:43] <SeamusLP> _troy:  It would totally rock if you could find it :D
[02:43] <Abood> djm62 how can i use that ?!
[02:43] <slez> how i set opera to my default webbrowser ?
[02:43] <djm62> _troy: I read it too....but magazines go out-of-date so quickly in FLOSS
[02:44] <qscd> how can i install icewm in ubuntu i hate gnome :p
[02:44] <Zomb> apt-get install icewm
[02:44] <Zomb> you need universe in sources.list
[02:44] <djm62> slez: menu: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[02:44] <slez> tnx man
[02:44] <jordanau> Abood, no
[02:45] <djm62> slez: how is opera these days?
[02:46] <mrc3> hi all! 'python2.4 setup.py install' always fails. any hint?
[02:46] <cens0red> good moaning
[02:46] <SeamusLP> mrc3:  Might be some unmet dependencies
[02:46] <SeamusLP> like some dev files or something
[02:46] <SeamusLP> search for python 2.4 and see if you can find them
[02:46] <jordanau> quick non ubuntu question, I want to make a digital picture frame, I need a linux distro to run feh and ssh and thats it, i will use an old laptop so small is key
[02:46] <mrc3> py2.3 does work, though
[02:47] <jordanau> any suggestions?
[02:47] <SeamusLP> hey mrc3 I had to install python2.4-dev to get a few things to work
[02:47] <djm62> jordanau: minimal debian?
[02:47] <SeamusLP> sudo apt-get install python2.4-dev
[02:48] <jordanau> djm62, how small can it be?
[02:48] <qscd> has anyone got photoshop working in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <mrc3> SeamusLP, darn, i missed those! thanks!!
[02:48] <jordanau> djm62, that sounds good cause i am getting used to debian through ubuntu
[02:48] <SeamusLP> mrc3:  No problem man :)
[02:49] <djm62> jordanau: not quite on a floppy, but you can get it on 100M IIRC
[02:49] <slez> damn, what is defalt in, menu: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications - web browsers
[02:49] <djm62> slez: click on a link in another gnome app...I think firefox is on ubuntu
[02:49] <Abood> is their any body that can help with the xserver-xorg proplem in ubuntu ????? im stuck i can enter the graphical interface
[02:49] <jordanau> djm62, thanks i will look into it
[02:50] <slez> ok
[02:50] <slez> tnx
[02:50] <qscd> has anyone got photoshop working in Ubuntu?!! need to know ASAP
[02:50] <jordanau> Abood, post your xorg log
[02:50] <SeamusLP> qscd:  I think photoshop 7 works really well in crossover office
[02:50] <djm62> Abood: restate your problem for those who have just joined...X causes some kind of sync error in your TFT monitor
[02:50] <Bukkake> crossover office?
[02:50] <SeamusLP> qscd:  However you must pay for crossover office
[02:51] <djm62> qscd: I haven't used it on ubuntu, but I have seen it work in wine
[02:51] <_troy> SeamusLP: still looking
[02:51] <qscd> k thanks dawgs
[02:51] <SeamusLP> _troy:  If it's too much of a request don't worry about it
[02:51] <SeamusLP> djm62:  Vanilla wine?
[02:51] <jordanau> djm62, do you have any experience with vector linux?
[02:52] <djm62> SeamusLP: wine on MDK...couple of years ago
[02:52] <Bukkake> SeamusLP: Heh.. what's crossover office?
[02:52] <waseem> im trying to play tuxracer but its really laggy
[02:52] <djm62> jordanau: none at all...feather linux has worked for me as a keychain distro
[02:52] <waseem> does anyone know what i can do?
[02:53] <djm62> waseem: it seems that you don't have Direct Rendering (graphics acceleration) enabled
[02:53] <delltony> hi anyone had any luck getting a lt winmodem working with ubuntu i noticed there is a package in the repository called linux restricted modules that has ltmodem in it. i'm just wondering after apt-getting it do i have to do anything special to get it to work like modprobin or what have you
[02:53] <SeamusLP> Bukkake:  Typing your name gives me an unpleasant feeling.  Crossover office is designed to emulate common windows applications extremely well
[02:53] <Bukkake> Kinda like wine?
[02:54] <Bukkake> It's my "auto-name," sorry, forgot to change it
[02:54] <SeamusLP> Yes, only improved.  It's concentrated for certain tasks, like cedega
[02:54] <SeamusLP> you can run microsoft office, photoshop 7, quicktime, itunes, quicken, etc really well with it
[02:54] <eruin> "MMM, Bukkake"? :P
[02:55] <_troy> SeamusLP: no trouble at all, I am just not as organized as I would like to be
[02:55] <MMM> I didn't want to go back to my very "original" nick . . . 'cuz I know some mature people in some mature channels ;\ first thing that came to my mind..
[02:55] <MMM> SeamusLP: It's not a "renamed" wine now, is it?
[02:55] <SeamusLP> MMM what's that now?
[02:56] <MMM> "wine," I think was another something  . . . that could enable Linux users to use MS products
[02:56] <slurpas> when i trie to write  here (swe chars) they do normal, but when i ssh in..there is a 1 chare delay before they come on the screen.. anyone know how to fix?
[02:56] <djm62> SeamusLP: the best wine integration I've seen was on SuSe: insert "multimedia" CD, automatically installs quicktime and puts it in the taskbar, and plays the CD
[02:56] <slurpas> (and i cant type them in the vi editor)
[02:56] <vs_zach> hey
[02:56] <SeamusLP> MMM:  Like I said, it's basically wine improved for certain applications...
[02:56] <vs_zach> whats the dpkg command to uninstall
[02:56] <SeamusLP> MMM:  If you're a member you can vote for future supported applications, and donate to certain applications to get them supported
[02:57] <djm62> vs_zach: apt-get remove xxxxxxx
[02:57] <MMond> Ohh, must had missed that one message, sorry
[02:57] <RustyShackleford> Is there a program for ubuntu like WinBar for windows?
[02:57] <vs_zach> no
[02:57] <vs_zach> not apt
[02:57] <vs_zach> dpkg
[02:57] <eruin> god damn
[02:57] <djm62> vs_zach: oh, hang on
[02:57] <SeamusLP> djm62:  Cool.  Does quicktime work well with wine now?
[02:57] <eruin> rhythmbox-merge--0.9 doesnt like breezy ;)
[02:57] <delltony> dpkg deinstall
[02:57] <eruin> quicktime works fine with xine :o
[02:58] <djm62> SeamusLP: it did then...worked perfectly
[02:58] <djm62> that was suse 9.1
[02:58] <danwolf> hello
[02:58] <MMond> But anyways . . . uhm, so I've been using Linux for my first two weeks now . . . and I'm ready to start using this as my primary desktop machine . . . could someone give me a few good pointers? Is it advisable for me to use some of the virtual terminals for . . . say, irssi? Common browing? And anything else I should now? Some tips and tricks for common use and such?
[02:58] <danwolf> I need a little help with a hardware problem
[02:58] <danwolf> can someone give me a hand?
[02:59] <djm62> and macromedia are (reputedly) testing flash creator stuff on wine
[02:59] <SeamusLP> djm62 SuSE 9.1 was the first linux I used.  As a joke I typed notepad into the run dialogue and you won't guess what came up... heh
[02:59] <delltony> dpkg -r whatever the packagenameyou want  (try man dpkg for more information )
[02:59] <slez> need i to install some programs to get a connect whit my windows hdd ?
[02:59] <danwolf> When I login to gnome occasionally I get an error Failed to initialize hal
[02:59] <RustyShackleford> Basically i'm just looking for a Network Meter, CPU Meter, and some other stuff.
[03:01] <SeamusLP> djm62 I think it was notepad running under wine.  Pretty useless, heh.
[03:01] <djm62> MMond: whatever you're most comfortable with...I prefer to stay in X these days, I used to keep a root shell open on tty1 to discreetly install/configure stuff
[03:01] <danwolf> only way to recover is to reboot
[03:01] <djm62> SeamusLP: that's INSANE
[03:01] <_troy> SeamusLP: I found some reviews @ Linux Journal, but they are too old, the one I read was in 2004
[03:01] <djm62> I'm going to have to try it, if I ever use SuSe again
[03:02] <danwolf> I unplugged my pioneer DVD rom and it seems to fix the hal problem, but now my gdm is occasionally locking up
[03:02] <danwolf> I need my DVDrom of course
[03:02] <danwolf> can anyone give me a hand with it?
[03:03] <MMond> djm62: Another problem is my laptop is 266 mhz.. installed Ubuntu on this for mere experimenting with Linux (started because I wanted to LAMP working.. I got LAP working instead.. but.. I'm getting there..) in the circumstances (266 mhz laptop) is it advisable for me to login in another virtual terminal and multi-task in those terms?
[03:03] <kisielk> MMond: shouldn't be any problem
[03:03] <RustyShackleford> Anybody know where I can get a program to monitor CPU and other things?
[03:03] <kisielk> MMond: console mode isn't exactly processor or memory intensive
[03:03] <SeamusLP> _troy:  Oh well
[03:03] <Jet2k5> hello can someone help me set up my home server?
[03:03] <kisielk> RustyShackleford: gkrellm ?
[03:03] <SeamusLP> _troy:  You don't remember the magazine name, do you?
[03:03] <Jet2k5> it's not working anymore was working fine under warty
[03:04] <danwolf> kisielk: can you help me with my problem?
[03:04] <_troy> SeamusLP: bah, I just can't find it.  I think they reviewed gnucash, maybe moneydance and several others
[03:04] <djm62> MMond: install "screen" I think
[03:04] <kisielk> danwolf: depends what your problem is
[03:04] <ratius> I've got a question, where can i get SSH?
[03:04] <MMond> !ping
[03:04] <kisielk> danwolf: and how patient you are :P
[03:04] <kisielk> ratius: should be installed by default.. openssh
[03:04] <djm62> _troy: was it Linux Format?
[03:04] <danwolf> kisielk: When loggin into gnome I get a failed to initialize hal problem
[03:04] <_troy> SeamusLP: has to be Linux Magazine (linux-magazine.com) or Linux Journal, only 2 I get
[03:05] <kisielk> danwolf: can't help you there, I don't use Gnome
[03:05] <danwolf> kisielk: this seems to go away when I unplug my pioneer dvdrom
[03:05] <danwolf> well I dont think its a gnome thing
[03:05] <MMond> Mmm, screen? Is it a terminal for X?
[03:05] <danwolf> its a hal thing
[03:05] <kisielk> MMond: screen is a terminal multiplexer
[03:05] <danwolf> when I unplug my dvd rom it goes away, but now gdm locks occasionally
[03:05] <_troy> SeamusLP: but the slant was toward business, talked about quickbooks, was perfect for what you need
[03:05] <kisielk> danwolf: never seen such a problem
[03:06] <SeamusLP> _troy:  I'll dig around for some guides.  I may also experiment with qemu.
[03:06] <xhypno> I have a problem with my new laptop, and I was wondering if someone could help. This is not an install problem, I am very experienced with Linux. The distro is working perfectly, the problem is with the LEDs on the System. Under XP the WiFi on/off light works perfectly, under Linux it does not. If I cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/*/rf_kill it shows a value of 0 when the WiFi is active and 2 if it is inactive. I am trying to find out how windo
[03:06] <danwolf> I only saw one other person with the problem, but they said putting a line in my kernel section of grub menu.lst would fix it, and it didnt
[03:06] <_troy> SeamusLP: ok, sorry I couldn't find it, luck
[03:06] <SeamusLP> _troy:  No prob man, thanks for giving it a shot
[03:07] <kisielk> danwolf: I've never had any problems with DVD or CDRoms.. neither IDE nor SCSI..
[03:07] <danwolf> _troy: can you give me a hand?
[03:07] <_troy> danwolf: sure, I can try
[03:07] <danwolf> _troy: thanks
[03:07] <MMond> "terminal multiplexer" o.0 . . . I'm confused, could you present a scenerio for this? These days . . . I often use gnome-terminal for most uses . . . open tabs, when I'm man'ing through pages . . . or using irssi instead of xchat (avoiding using xchat because it eats a lot of memory..)
[03:08] <MacIver> hey, since ubuntu already has gnome '2.10.1' why doesn't gnome.org?
[03:08] <kisielk> MMond: basically you don't need to use tabs
[03:08] <danwolf> _troy: as I said to kisielk I get an error failed to initialize hal when I loginto gnome
[03:08] <kisielk> MMond: lets you have multiple terminals in one terminal
[03:08] <kisielk> MMond: whether you are SSH'd in, or whatever
[03:08] <SeamusLP> MacIver:  I thought it was 2.10.0?
[03:08] <kisielk> MMond: also you can detatch your session and reattach elsewhere
[03:08] <xhypno> Come on, someone has to have a suggestion?
[03:08] <danwolf> _troy: I disconnected my Pioneer DVD rom and it seems to fix it, but now my machine locks up occasionally
[03:08] <danwolf> _troy: I need my DVD rom though
[03:09] <MacIver> SeamusLP: release announcement said 2.10.1
[03:09] <djm62> MacIver: odd number-unstable release?
[03:09] <danwolf> _troy: I do see an error occasionally about Fatal: Module ide_mod not found when I boot up
[03:09] <MacIver> no, all 2.10.x are stable
[03:09] <danwolf> _troy: any ideas?
[03:09] <MacIver> 2.11 is not stable
[03:10] <_troy> danwolf: ok, let me think a bit
[03:10] <danwolf> _troy: thank you
[03:10] <SeamusLP> MacIver:  When I click system -> about gnome I get version 2.10.0
[03:10] <danwolf> I will answer any questions you have
[03:10] <MacIver> SeamusLP: odd
[03:10] <bwlang> xhypno: i  think that led is probably controlled by a bit in nvram ... you could have a look at madwifi to see how they do it  - i don't now how to dump nvram from windows but you could compare a dump from windows to a dump in linux
[03:11] <xhypno> bwlang: thanks for the suggestion, I am going try now
[03:11] <_troy> danwolf: 2.6.10 kernel?
[03:11] <MacIver> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/000023.html
[03:11] <danwolf> lemme look
[03:11] <MacIver> it says 2.10.1
[03:12] <danwolf> _troy: lemme look
[03:12] <danwolf> _troy: whats the command to find that?
[03:12] <_troy> danwolf: uname -a
[03:12] <danwolf> oh
[03:13] <danwolf> forgot -a
[03:13] <Obsidians> When I try to do "apt-get install build-essential" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?
[03:13] <danwolf> _troy: Linux foshizzle 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:13] <_troy> danwolf: kk
[03:13] <danwolf> _troy: foshizzle is my computer name ;)
[03:13] <danwolf> _troy: thanks
[03:13] <SeamusLP> MacIver:  No clue.
[03:13] <vaiux> anyone happen to be using a wpc54g ver2 pcmcia card succesfully? :)
[03:13] <MMond> Sorry about the delayed responce -- cleaning and computing at the same time. Anyways . . . I can't imagine, how one could multi-task in such means . . . without something conceptual alike tabs . . . I'm gonna be a nub and google image it for a sec here ;D
[03:14] <_troy> dandwolf: I like it :)
[03:14] <danwolf> _troy: check your pm's
[03:14] <MMond> Could you please give me some more precise keywords? "screen" that's way too general for google to capture..
[03:14] <LycoN> When I type fglrxinfo i get Mesa 3d stuff as my OpenGl stuff when it should be my ATI gcard.  Can anyone help me.
[03:14] <RustyShackleford> How do I get GKrellM?
[03:15] <MMond> screen - screen manager with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation  <-- that it?
[03:15] <MMond> RustyShackleford: apt-get install gkrellm
[03:15] <MMond> (I think, I'm a nub, but I guess that's probably how)
[03:15] <pimaniac> mmond: gnu screen? :)
[03:16] <djm62> MMond: that's it...very useful too
[03:16] <RustyShackleford> Couldn't find the file.
[03:16] <|QuaD-> MMond: man screen
 MMond: install "screen" I think <kisielk> MMond: screen is a terminal multiplexer
[03:16] <djm62> MMond: you need to learn how to use it, then you can do clever stuff
[03:16] <qcompson> anyone here have a problem with Render Accel and nvidia drivers?
[03:17] <xhypno> Any one use the actual intel pro/wireless linux drivers
[03:17] <MMond> |QuaD-: Now, I don't (think) I have that installed . . . should the man page of it still be existent?
[03:17] <LycoN> How do I change my FGLRXINFO from saying I am rendering with Mesa 3D stuff and rendering with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.  When i do glxgears i get 180 fps.. Plz help
[03:17] <eruin> qcompson: if you're talking corrupted text in xchat, then yes
[03:17] <|QuaD-> MMond: then apt-get install screen
[03:17] <MMond> Heheh, I should really start trying out stuff before asking stupid questions :o  - screen man, at least, is available
[03:17] <MMond> Got it, thanks
[03:18] <djm62> MMond: did you type "screen" and nothing happened?
[03:18] <RustyShackleford> It didn't work MMond.
[03:18] <LycoN> How do I change my FGLRXINFO from saying I am rendering with Mesa 3D stuff and rendering with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.  When i do glxgears i get 180 fps.. Plz help
[03:18] <MMond> man screen, I meant . . . and it worked
[03:18] <ChunderButter> hey
[03:18] <ChunderButter> I'm up and runing Ubuntu :)
[03:18] <MMond> And just typed screen as well . . .   It didn't. Now black doesn't print either!
[03:19] <MMond> I do have tabs opened . . . now should I hit my road to man screen?
[03:19] <slez> have ubuntu irissi?
[03:19] <kingsley> I've have three Epson printers in about as many years and suspect I should consider switching vendors.
[03:19] <MaCaDe> Question: does yaboot on the Mac/PowerPC work the same way as lilo on the PC/i386, in that you need to run it every time you make a change to the kernel or initrd?
[03:19] <Obsidians> When I try to do "apt-get install build-essential" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?
[03:20] <eruin> qcompson: oh, you might wanna search nvnews.com for that - I'm sure I saw a fix for it over there
[03:20] <djm62> slez: apt-cache search irssi says...
[03:20] <eruin> you want irssi-text
[03:20] <SkyNet> hello just installed ubuntu just wanted to say VERY good work..
[03:20] <djm62> ...what eruin says
[03:20] <elis> is it possible to copy all settings/options from one user profile to another?
[03:21] <RustyShackleford> How do I get GKrellM
[03:21] <SkyNet> most user friendly linux i have ever seen
[03:21] <elis> i've just created a new user and i want to copy all the settings over so i can delete the old user
[03:21] <slez> this - irssi-snapshot - The irssi IRC client (Development version) ?
[03:21] <SeamusLP> SkyNet:  We're just the peons who help people.  I think you want ubuntu-dev or something :)
[03:22] <djm62> elis: tar -czvf oldhome.tgz ~/.*
[03:22] <nickrud> Obsidians: have you tried synaptic?
[03:22] <LycoN> How do I change my FGLRXINFO from saying I am rendering with Mesa 3D stuff and rendering with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.  When i do glxgears i get 180 fps.. Plz help
[03:23] <Obsidians> nickrud: Yep. It just hangs at 0% as well. I think that it thinks it's already downloaded it, or something, when really it hasn't. It says 0/2555kb to download, but then doesn't do anythign.
[03:23] <elis> djm62: forgive me newbieness, but what exactly does that command do?
[03:23] <thanatosys> hey hey hey everyone
[03:23] <Obsidians> nickrud: I also tried apt-get clean, but that didn't help.
[03:23] <thanatosys> hmm interesting about the mouse
[03:24] <djm62> elis: oh, sorry....that would create a tar file (archive) of all of your files starting with . (configuration files)
[03:24] <thanatosys> does anyone have an ipod
[03:24] <thanatosys> ?
[03:24] <thanatosys> with an fm transmitter
[03:24] <djm62> elis: which you could then unpack in your new $HOME with tar -xzvf oldhome.tgz
[03:25] <nickrud> does apt-get install anything?  (like apt-get install gkrellm)
[03:25] <djm62> nickrud: yes
[03:25] <djm62> nickrud: the extent to which it gets set up for ubuntu depends on the repository...official stuff works better
[03:25] <SeamusLP> nickrud:  The command does not lie
[03:25] <RustyShackleford> It won't install gkrellm for me.  It says it cannot find the file.
[03:26] <nickrud> command line feedback can obfuscate, though )
[03:27] <nickrud> gkrellm's in the universe repository
[03:27] <SeamusLP> Rusty you should probably add Universe Multiverse to your repository list
[03:27] <SeamusLP> It's a generally good idea for installing anything useful
[03:28] <djm62> so, are there no official/semi-official ubuntu people here?
[03:28] <nickrud> what I'd do (since my internet is fast) is cd /var/cache/apt/archives and rm -r *, and try installing again.
[03:28] <SeamusLP> djm62:  Like I said, we're the peons :)
[03:28] <pvoce> need some help with print
[03:29] <djm62> I guess if there were people being _paid_ to mooch around on IRC the peons would start grumbling ;)
[03:29] <senator32> how can i get plug and play flash drives to work in unbuntu
[03:29] <njan> senator32, they should work already.
[03:29] <djm62> senator32: have you tried just sticking it in?
[03:30] <senator32> yea ill try again
[03:30] <senator32> one sec
[03:30] <SeamusLP> djm62 heh I think the closest you'll get here are the ubuntu-motu people, the universe/multiverse package maintainers.
[03:30] <djm62> darkaudit: how's your bios battery?
[03:30] <MMond> I am entirely confused now . . . give a few starting pointers. I typed bluntly "screen" and I'm back to normal gnome-terminal . . . what do I want to do now? I was suggested to use this . . . but kinda confused what it'll achieve me
[03:30] <darkaudit> djm62: brand new mobo...
[03:30] <pvoce> I keep getting the /dev/lp0: permission denied error.....I ve checked the permissions, but I cant figure which is enedeng access..foomatic?  Cups? User?
[03:30] <djm62> MMond: type ctrl-a ctrl-h for a guide to commands
[03:30] <njan> elis, if you literally want to clone the user, you could just rename the /home folder and then change the permissions on it so the new user can access all the files..
[03:30] <senator32> well where does it mount the plug and play devices
[03:31] <darkaudit> but it is an Athlon XP 2500+ running as a 3200+
[03:31] <senator32> in other versions it puts the icon on the desktop
[03:31] <RustyShackleford> "what I'd do (since my internet is fast) is cd /var/cache/apt/archives and rm -r *, and try installing again."  Was that directed at me?
[03:31] <njan> elis, mv /home/OLDUSER /home/NEWUSER && chown -r NEWUSER /home/NEWUSER
[03:31] <senator32> (other linux distros that is)
[03:31] <nickrud> no, no!
[03:31] <hua> when i install software from unofficial repositor, she told me unauthenticated packages. can i choice continue anyway
[03:31] <djm62> MMond: screen is running, it's just unobtrusive...
[03:31] <MaCaDe> MMond: with 'screen' you can have several terminals within one, you're actually in screen now even if you can't see it - type ctrl-a h for help
[03:31] <MMond> djm62: At blung normal gnome-screen?
[03:31] <MMond> Alright
[03:31] <MMond> blunt*
[03:31] <djm62> MMond: it's running...you just don't realise
[03:31] <RustyShackleford> Damn, I did it.
[03:31] <darkaudit> djm62: would running powernowd on a desktop machine be an issue at all?
[03:32] <senator32> abyone....where does ubuntu mount the plug and play flash drives so that I can access the information
[03:32] <nickrud> you need to update your repository so you can get the good stuff,
[03:32] <MaCaDe> MMond: for gnome-temrinal i'd just open another window instead of using screen, though.. unless you want to be able to detach a terminal session, log off, then reattach it when logging on. that's only possible with screen.
[03:32] <SeamusLP> MMond:  Try the antidesktop http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/581/
[03:32] <elis> thanks so much djm62 and njan. will have a go now
[03:32] <eruin> dark: no, it's justnot work ;)
[03:32] <eruin> it'd*
[03:32] <pvoce> sneator: try /mnt
[03:32] <djm62> senator32: ISTR it's /media/
[03:32] <Obsidians> What's the easiest way to burn an ISO from Ubuntu?
[03:32] <RustyShackleford> How do I add Universe Multiverse to my repository.
[03:32] <senator32> ill look
[03:33] <nickrud> try inside synaptic, settings->repositories->add->Community maintained
[03:33] <djm62> Obsidians: navigate to the ISO with the normal file manager, right-click on it
[03:33] <MMond> I tried hitting Ctrl + A and Ctrl + H . . . nothing happens, and it's acting weird now. Do I essentially treat it and give commands as I would to gnome-terminal at its normal state?
[03:33] <SeamusLP> MMond I think it has some decent info on screen.  I don't think you'll want to use ratpoison, though :)
[03:34] <senator32> its not mounted in /media
[03:34] <djm62> SeamusLP: do you know if the key commands in gnome and screen conflict?
[03:34] <MMond> Heh.. I'm lost, what are you talking about?
[03:35] <SeamusLP> djm62:  I've used it before in gnome, never had any conflicts.
[03:36] <MMond> I'm gonna go google and try and see if I can get some very basic stuff to clear out my crazy ideas and go at it fresh again. thanks though
[03:36] <djm62> MMond: I'm sorry: I lied to you: press ctrl-a ? to get the commands
[03:36] <elis> njan: will  cp /home/OLDUSER /home/NEWUSER && chown -r NEWUSER /home/NEWUSER work just as well?
[03:36] <SeamusLP> djm62 ctrl-a could be a problem I suppose, but when I (or my roommate who just asked) used it under gnome we never had a problem
[03:36] <senator32> anybody know how to get the plug and play drives installed and mounted
[03:36] <senator32> i still cant see it
[03:36] <MaCaDe> MMond: woops. yes, it's ctrl-a ? (i copied the wrong info)
[03:36] <MMond> djm62: "Ctrl + A + ?" exactly then? Those three keys?
[03:37] <MaCaDe> MMond: first hold down CTRL and type A, then release CTRL and type ?
[03:37] <djm62> MMond: ctrl and A at the same time, then ?  (that key above /)
[03:37] <senator32> do i have to command line mount the flash drive?
[03:37] <djm62> senator32: you shouldn't have to
[03:37] <senator32> i figured
[03:37] <MMond> Got that working . . .
[03:37] <jawsh> Does anyone know how to get rid of the mystery tritech tr28602 that keeps reappearing in OSS despite the fact that I don't actually have one of these cards? I can
[03:37] <senator32> how
[03:38] <djm62> senator32: have you tried the Places menu?
[03:38] <senator32> no
[03:38] <jawsh> I can't get jack to work since it is stealing a slot
[03:38] <senator32> places menu
[03:38] <senator32> hmm
[03:38] <senator32> where is the places menu
[03:38] <RustyShackleford> So I create a new repository.  What URl, distribution, and sections?  Binary or source?
[03:39] <djm62> at the top of the screen towards the left
[03:39] <djm62> 2nd from the left
[03:39] <senator32> what
[03:39] <MaCaDe> MMond: now you can create new terminal sessions with Ctrl-A C, and switch between them with Ctrl-A P (previous) and Ctrl-A N (next).
[03:39] <senator32> oh im running kde
[03:39] <djm62> jawsh: is it a winmodem?
[03:39] <noxlord> Anyone know how to switch to runlevel 3 ? the standart command "init 3" does not work.
[03:39] <djm62> senator32: are you running kubuntu? or ubuntu-with-kde?
[03:39] <MMond> Okay . . . so it's a more . . . "diverse" (although still not quite right the word it is) terminal? I can do several things at once -- with lots of keyboard short cuts? For example.. while I have irssi open . . . I can go about another keyboard shortcut-- and within the same terminal, do another thing?
[03:39] <senator32> ubuntu with kde
[03:39] <nickrud> for now, turn off all the source, and turn on everything eles.
[03:40] <MaCaDe> MMond: kind of like that, yes. screen is basically a windowing system that works without windows.
[03:40] <MaCaDe> MMond: you can even use it on bare terminal screens, you do not need any graphical interface.
[03:41] <MMond> MaCaDe: Sorry to be bringing irssi in this so much . . . but, so it is very alike irssi then . . . for example, going through different channels by pressing Ctrl + P (not even sure if that is the correct shortcut.. but whatever it is, that toggles through channel windows..)
[03:41] <djm62> senator32: if I were you, I'd attach an icon to the mount command and stick it on a toolbar
[03:41] <senator32> k
[03:41] <MaCaDe> MMond: a big advantage is that you can detach a session (Ctrl-A D), then log off, then return to the session later with "screen -r".
[03:41] <djm62> senator32: or possibly kubuntu has a more integrated KDE HAL
[03:41] <senator32> i may just install kbuntu
[03:41] <senator32> is it as nice as unbunti
[03:41] <senator32> *unbuntu
[03:42] <MaCaDe> MMond: that's ok, i'm not familiar with irssi, but it's nice to know a program that works in a similar way.
[03:42] <senator32> *ubuntu
[03:42] <senator32> god
[03:42] <tweek> hello?
[03:42] <noxlord> yo
[03:42] <MMond> A more random question: (I'll back on topic after a sec here) the virtual terminals . . . do they all interconnect real-time? I mean . . . can I essentially copy and paste stuff through them? (an odd example.. but should do for now)
[03:43] <MMond> MaCaDe: irssi the IRC client.. I always thought it was the most prominent Linux IRC client . . . I don't know, maybe BX works that way as well . . .
[03:43] <tweek> im still having trouble with my onboard soundcard, is there anything else i can do?
[03:43] <senator32> djm62 : thanks for youre help im downloading kbuntu
[03:43] <djm62> senator32: I couldn't tell you, about kubuntu, but I think it would be better-integrated
[03:43] <abarbaccia> hey, how do i change the icons in the menu's?  i installed thunderbird and the icons are not showing up
[03:44] <RustyShackleford> I've got it.  Did I cause any damages by doing this "cd /var/cache/apt/archives and rm -r *"
[03:44] <eruin> http://appelsinjuice.org/rb9.png <-- now that's the shit ;)
[03:44] <astro76> senator32: you can install it from ubuntu, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <senator32> djm62 i was just interested wetehr or not it had the "portage-ish" install system
[03:44] <senator32> oh
[03:44] <senator32> thx
 MMond: now you can create new terminal sessions with Ctrl-A C, and switch between them with Ctrl-A P (previous) and Ctrl-A N (next).   <-- can I close them with just a "exit" normal exit at one
[03:45] <nickrud> not really, that's were ubuntu keeps  debs you've downloaded. You just need to download them again if you ever reinstall.
[03:45] <hua> how can i listen internet radio
[03:45] <SeamusLP> hua:  Have you tried rhythmbox?
[03:45] <senator32> djm62 ok another question, i realize that i can use sudo, but is there a way to actually log on as root
[03:45] <senator32> ?
[03:46] <rmilun> senator32,yes,i am using a root
[03:46] <djm62> senator: sudo passwd, and set a root passwd
[03:46] <rmilun> it works
[03:46] <RustyShackleford> O.K. I downloaded and installed GKrewl, so where will it be.  I can't find it in the Menu.
[03:46] <senator32> awsome
[03:46] <djm62> rmilun: are you fixed now?
[03:46] <hua> SeamusLP: let me try it
[03:47] <djm62> senator32: anything debian-ish has the good good install system
[03:47] <nickrud> ubuntu doen't put a lot of universe stuff in it's menu. install menu & menu-xdg, and you'll get the debian menu, it has everything:)
[03:47] <SeamusLP> hua you may have to get the gstreamer0-mad package from apt. Gives you support for more music types
[03:47] <senator32> thanks all
[03:48] <senator32> i had used many distros of linux i was just new to ubuntu and im loving it
[03:48] <pvoce> ARRGGHHH
[03:49] <rmilun> i am new,i installed ubuntu today,i am trying to set up my modem for couple of hours now....i am not so happy,in slackware it took about minute or so :)
[03:49] <rmilun> so senator32,consider yourself lucky :)
[03:49] <hua> SeamusLP: i have installed rhythmbox and gstreamer0-mad, how can i start it
[03:49] <pvoce> which user neds acess to the /dev/lp0 file so I can print????
[03:49] <djm62> only takes one bit of hardware to make it all go tits-up :-/
[03:49] <MaCaDe> MMond: sorry, got distracted. Yes, you can close them with 'exit' after creating them with Ctrl-A C.
[03:50] <|QuaD-> anyone know when breezy's sync with sid will resume?
[03:50] <senator32> thx all
[03:50] <abarbaccia> hey, anybody know how to get into the menu editor?  to add new programs to menus?
[03:50] <SeamusLP> hua applications - > sound and video -> Music Player
[03:50] <tweek> just drag the icon
[03:50] <tweek> of the launcher
[03:50] <SeamusLP> Click on radio on the side... you may want to look for shoutcast servers
[03:50] <abarbaccia> tweek, its more of being able to change the icons in the menu's
[03:51] <tweek> o,
[03:51] <tweek> try a theme?
[03:51] <MMond> MaCaDe: Got it . . . thanks. Still kinda unfamiliar with this . . . but I'll try using it for the next few days 'til I get familiar with this.. I think this is what I wanted
[03:51] <MaCaDe> MMond: try reading the screen manual page (man screen).. all the info is in there.
[03:51] <MMond> MaCaDe: And I almost am where I thought I never would be . . . going at it with complete CLI
[03:51] <tweek> does anyone know how to manually configure a sound card?
[03:51] <SeamusLP> hua you can add a station you've found by going to Music -> New Internet Radio Station
[03:51] <MaCaDe> MMond: aha... well, good luck :)
[03:52] <MMond> MaCaDe: I mean.. using my desktop as complete CLI . . . (recently found w3m . . . and I was like :OOOOOOO) everything working pleasently now
[03:53] <MaCaDe> MMond: you can also try booting without any GUI (runlevel 3) and be in total CLI heaven ;)
[03:53] <ZuMM> Please, how can I write in a vfat partiton with a normal user?
[03:53] <RustyShackleford> How do I install the Debian Menu again?
[03:54] <MMond> MaCaDe: How exactly do I do that? Without a click . . .  Please stop telling people to play runlevel games. Ubuntu, like Debian, treats 2-5 identically.
[03:56] <MaCaDe> djm62: ok, thanks
[03:56] <SeamusLP> hua:  click on "tune in" when you find a radio station, select rhythmbox to open the playlist
[03:56] <RustyShackleford> It says menu-xdg is not a directory
[03:56] <darGor> crimsun: yes, appears the hand, but i can't move it, dunno why
[03:56] <nate> meh
[03:56] <SeamusLP> hua: if it's not in the firefox list you can browse to /usr/bin/ then type in rhythmbox and hit enter
[03:56] <crimsun> darGor: make sure you didn't select the Lock option
[03:56] <nate> I'm still getting 'bad header line' when I try to do an apt-get install
[03:56] <MMond> MaCaDe: Gotcha . . . so then on the 7th virtual terminal, X won't be initiated? If I wanted to -- I could "start x" and be back at normal, right? And is this a one-time thing, or will this reset that as default? If yes, what would I have to do to get back to default as it is now?
[03:56] <nate> anyone else getting this?
[03:56] <crimsun> darGor: secondary-click and check
[03:56] <darGor> crimsun: thanks i'll check that
[03:57] <MaCaDe> MMond: one-time thing.. not sure how to make it the default under debian/ubuntu, maybe someone else here knows.
[03:57] <crimsun> MaCaDe: (the above was addressed to you RE: runlevels)
[03:58] <djm62> MMond: ubuntu is from a different "family tree" to slackware, and doesn't work like that
[03:58] <MaCaDe> crimsun: OK, I stand corrected.
[03:58] <MaCaDe> MMond: please forget what i said :)  can someone please explain to MMond how he boots in text-only mode?
[03:58] <darGor> crimsun: not locked.. dunno why i can't move it. it's big big in the left side. i want it up and llitle, by defect.. but tryng to move and nothing
[03:59] <crimsun> MMond: there are a few ways to not start gdm|kdm on startup - try, for instance, renaming the /etc/rc2.d/*gdm symlink, or use update-rc.d, or change the default display manager, or ...
[03:59] <RustyShackleford> Where do I enter install menu and menu-xdg at?
[03:59] <djm62> what is the non-kludgy way to do it?
[03:59] <djm62> update-rc.d :)
[04:00] <nickrud> rusty - in synaptic again, control-f to search for 'menu'
[04:01] <djm62> crimsun: although would "mv /etc/rc2.d/S20gdm /etc/rc2.d/K20gdm" produce a useful "gdm not running" reminder each boot in case he wants to change it back?
[04:01] <crimsun> djm62: it'd probably be more useful to simply change /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:03] <darGor> crimsun: it's ok thanks =)
[04:03] <ZuMM> Please, how can set the /etc/fstab to leave normal user write and delete?
[04:05] <RustyShackleford> O.k. there installed.
[04:05] <vs_zach> hey
[04:05] <vs_zach> i installed a program via dpkg
[04:05] <vs_zach> and i want to remove it
[04:05] <vs_zach> how do i do this
[04:06] <djm62> dpkg -r package-name
[04:07] <djm62> ok?
[04:07] <chinaski> Hi yall
[04:08] <hua> SeamusLP: I meet trouble , and  i must reboot my computer. see you.
[04:08] <RustyShackleford> What next?
[04:09] <SeamusLP> hua:  ooookay
[04:09] <djm62> 0_0
[04:10] <nickrud> rusty, I just installed it myself, and don't see the menu :) Swore I saw it before the freeze.
[04:11] <nickrud> rusty, you should have a debian menu under applications now.
[04:12] <mikeco> mmm. margaritas
[04:13] <RustyShackleford> It does look different.  I see no GKrellM
[04:13] <ChiliDog> I have a problem...
[04:13] <ChiliDog> I just installed the latest version of Firefox, and now I can't open it.
[04:14] <nickrud> nope, neither do I
[04:14] <ChiliDog> Someone please help me.
[04:14] <djm62> ChiliDog: how did you install it?
[04:14] <ChiliDog> I converted the tarball  to a Debian package and installed it via the root terminal.
[04:14] <djm62> ChiliDog: do you mean, you can't open firefox, or that you get the older version?
[04:15] <ChiliDog> I can't open Firefox.
[04:15] <senator32> hey im using smb4k which is a samba based network browser, It browses the network and the from there i can mount drives, i keep getting this error "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts" how can i fix this
[04:15] <nickrud> ok this is a useful trick. we know the name of the program, so alt-F2, and enter gkrellm
[04:16] <kalag> guys... what's the equivalent of ntsysv (fedora) in ubuntu?
[04:16] <djm62> senator32: you can use the command chmod +S `which smbmnt`
[04:16] <crimsun> kalag: there is none, though you can read update-rc.d's man page
[04:16] <RustyShackleford> That opened it.
[04:16] <djm62> senator32: note the "backwards quote marks"
[04:17] <kalag> thanks crimsun, i'll try that
[04:17] <djm62> (next to the 1 key on my keyboard)
[04:17] <senator32> what directory would i use the chmod on.....the network directory?
[04:17] <senator32> or the /mnt ot what
[04:17] <mom> Someone has a good linux FTP server?
[04:17] <djm62> senator32: "chmod +S `which smbmnt`"
[04:18] <djm62> senator32: just like that
[04:18] <senator32> oh ok
[04:18] <ChiliDog> Every time I click on the icon, I get the "Starting Firefox Web Broswer" bar in my taskbar, but then it disappears and Firefox doesn't show up.
[04:18] <Brazmetal> Does someone here use ubuntu hoary final, ADSL through router modem and static local Ip ?
[04:18] <crimsun> mom: try vsftpd
[04:18] <delltony> i have a question: never tried this before i have a usb external harddrive how in the heck do i get it to mount? not sure what the /dev is :(
[04:18] <gorilla_> mom: try proftpd
[04:18] <djm62> ChiliDog: do you need to be running the new firefox?
[04:18] <crimsun> delltony: did you try pmount /dev/sda1 ?
[04:18] <delltony> err sorry usb externel floppy
[04:18] <ChiliDog> It's not essential, no.
[04:18] <delltony> so pmount /dev/fd maybe?
[04:19] <crimsun> delltony: in that case, what does dmesg tell you regarding the floppy drive?
[04:19] <djm62> ChiliDog: you could remove the package and install the default one for the time being
[04:19] <shad0w1e> how do I temporarily disable the automounter?
[04:19] <ChiliDog> How do I do that?
[04:19] <delltony> aww i forgot to check there
[04:19] <delltony> hang on will do
[04:19] <crimsun> delltony: if it's usb, it'll use usb storage, so it should appear as /dev/sdXX
[04:19] <senator32> it says invaild string '+S
[04:19] <delltony> ok let me look at dmesg right fast
[04:19] <senator32> got it
[04:19] <senator32> thanks again
[04:19] <senator32> small s
[04:19] <kalag> crimsun: how about /etc/rc.d/rc.local ?
[04:20] <djm62> senator32: sorry...getting old and forgetful
[04:20] <pantz> i am having a shit of a time trying to compile a driver for my wireless card - i am a debian newbie - anyone available to help me out for a bit?
[04:20] <vs_zach> peace all
[04:20] <ChiliDog> It won't let me get into the "Add/Remove Programs" tool.
[04:20] <shad0w1e> QUESTION: how do I temporarily disable the automounter?
[04:20] <delltony> it looks like its sda
[04:20] <crimsun> kalag: nope.
[04:20] <crimsun> delltony: good, so you'd ''pmount /dev/sda1 something,,
[04:21] <djm62> ChiliDog: sudo dpkg -r mozilla-firefox&&sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:21] <tweek> pantz
[04:21] <crimsun> delltony: and it should appear under /media/something
[04:21] <tweek> what problems are you having?
[04:21] <delltony> nothings under media other than cdrom
[04:21] <kalag> crimsun: what's the ubuntu way of calling non-init.d scripts during bootup then?
[04:21] <pantz> tweek, firstly do i need linux-headers-2.6.10-5 package or linux-source package?
[04:22] <tweek> source most likely
[04:22] <pantz> i am confused b/n the two
[04:22] <tweek> i just go for source
[04:22] <crimsun> kalag: man update-rc.d
[04:22] <pantz> ok so i install it with synaptic and then unbzip in /usr/src
[04:22] <crimsun> kalag: put the script in /etc/init.d/, then use update-rc.d to create the runlevel symlinks
[04:23] <ChiliDog> Not working.  It won't let me delete Firefox because of dependencies.
[04:23] <tweek> o, if your going thru synaptic just get the binary
[04:23] <pantz> which gives me /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10
[04:23] <djm62> ChiliDog: aptitude remove firefox
[04:23] <pantz> tweek, what is the binary called?
[04:23] <tweek> not sure i will look
[04:23] <ChiliDog> I'm missing a library needed to run Aptitude
[04:24] <djm62> ChiliDog: apt-get remove firefox?
[04:24] <ChiliDog> nope.
[04:24] <tweek> Pantz what type of pcmia card do you have?
[04:24] <delltony> cool deal thanks crimsun i learned something today
[04:24] <djm62> ChiliDog: did you install via an unusual method?
[04:24] <kalag> crimsun: got it, thanks again
[04:24] <delltony> appreciate it
[04:24] <ChiliDog> I just installed Ubuntu a few hours ago, so I can just reformat and try again...  Thanks, though.
[04:25] <pantz> tweek, well it is actually a ralink rt2500 onboard chipset
[04:25] <tweek> ok,
[04:25] <crimsun> delltony: / kalag: np
[04:25] <djm62> ChiliDog: you shouldn't have to do that, but I can't figure out what's happening with your system
[04:25] <pantz> they have open source drivers for it but you need to compile
[04:25] <djm62> damn!
[04:25] <tweek> i dont see anything for that :|
[04:25] <hua> SeamusLP: I can't open shoutcast, then i try to open virgin radio classic rock. but she told me error could not open vfs file "http://www.smgradio.com/core/audio/ogg/live.pls?service=vcbb" for reading. what's wrong
[04:25] <tweek> A,B, or G system?
[04:26] <pantz> tweek, g
[04:26] <posit> hola
[04:26] <djm62> damn windows madness
[04:26] <djm62> reinstall the whole OS because of a faulty program
[04:26] <tweek> pantz you said debian, do you mean ubuntu or debian itself?
[04:27] <pantz> tweek, there is a sourceforge project with drivers here - http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[04:27] <pantz> tweek, ubuntu - but i guess compiling a module is the same under both?
[04:27] <posit> the default ubuntu install has a kernel bootsplash image, right?
[04:27] <tweek> yes
[04:27] <tweek> try "wireless tools
[04:27] <posit> I seem to have lost mine, somehow :|
[04:27] <JinxColor> how do you use apt-get to upgrade a specified module?
[04:27] <posit> any idea how I can reconfigure it?
[04:27] <tweek> "wireless-tools"
[04:28] <pantz> tweek, i have it installed
[04:28] <tweek> ok,
[04:28] <tweek> lets move on to compileing this driver
[04:28] <pantz> tweek, how do i try it?
[04:28] <pantz> oh ok
[04:28] <pantz> :)
[04:29] <tweek> lets download it and put it in our /home/pantz folder
[04:29] <tweek> extract it to that as well
[04:29] <pantz> tweek, done
[04:30] <tweek> one second, my download was corrupted ;)
[04:30] <JinxColor> anyone, how do you use apt-get to upgrade a specific module?
[04:30] <pantz> tweek, i took the cvs daily snapshot
[04:30] <pantz> tweek, apparently the releases are way behind now
[04:30] <tweek> ok will get that
[04:31] <djm62> hua: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[04:31] <RustyShackleford> Nick, did you ever find out where gkrellm was located.  I'd like to add an icon for it on my desktop.
[04:31] <|QuaD-> is anyone in here a website/email/etc hosting provider and using ubuntu for their servers?
[04:31] <tweek> brb, pantz hang tight
[04:32] <djm62> RustyShackleford: run "which gkrellm" to find out
[04:32] <MaCaDe> JinxColor: I'm trying to figure it out and am surprised that the obvious "apt-get upgrade <package-name>" doesn't seem to work.
[04:32] <hua> djm62: yes. now i can listen france musiques
[04:32] <darGor> how to download Flash-Plugin for firefox ???
[04:32] <pantz> tweek, ok
[04:32] <JinxColor> MaCaDe : yes can anyone help us?
[04:33] <mrc3> totem, DVD, "Could not read from resource". does it ring any bells to anyone?
[04:33] <djm62> RustyShackleford: then you can right-click menu "Create Launcher"
[04:33] <astro76> darGor: http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla
[04:33] <Coutsos> has anybody managed to get the "rhythmbox applet" to work under ubuntu warty?
[04:34] <tweek> ok cd /home/pantz/rt-2500-cvs-20050416/module pantz
[04:34] <tweek> make && sudo make install
[04:34] <Iamhe> help
[04:34] <nickrud> RustyShackleford: if you don't know the name dpkg -l | grep bin is your friend :)
[04:34] <Iamhe> I can't Mplayer to install
[04:34] <Iamhe> it has obsolete dependencies I cannot find
[04:35] <tweek> i wish they made lea&perins for sentences :\
[04:35] <darGor> astro76; thanks a lot
[04:35] <nickrud>  dpkg -l <package name>  | grep bin .  doh
[04:35] <djm62> tweek: sudan-one included ;)
[04:35] <pantz> tweek, b4 doing that - what do i need to setup source/header-wise in /usr/src?
[04:36] <tweek> i dont think its nessesary it should install useing the sudo make install command
[04:36] <Iamhe> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:36] <Iamhe>   mplayer-586: Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed
[04:36] <Iamhe>                Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[04:36] <Iamhe> E: Broken packages
[04:36] <Iamhe> I tried to get those packages
[04:36] <tweek> uhhh
[04:36] <Iamhe> but they are obsolete
[04:36] <MaCaDe> JinxColor: I think 'apt-get install' comes closest.. it upgrades the package in question plus all the dependencies.
[04:37] <tweek> or just google for the packages :\
[04:37] <astro76> Iamhe: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[04:37] <MaCaDe> JinxColor: seems to be no way to upgrade just one package though. <shrug>
[04:37] <pantz> tweek, ok so i have done that and it is the same as what i have got previously ... ie. no errors - all looks ok
[04:37] <tweek> ok, test it out? :|
[04:37] <pantz> tweek, i would like to paste the output to show you but don't want to spam the channel
[04:38] <tweek> www.rafb.net/paste
[04:38] <JinxColor> MaCaDe : thats what I was thinking - when I download a "program" for linux - what should I pick as a distro if debian isn't an option
[04:38] <tweek> get source
[04:38] <tweek> :\
[04:38] <JinxColor> tweek : hmm, I'm noob how do you compile stuff
[04:38] <tweek> it depends
[04:39] <SeamusLP> JinxColor check the wiki
[04:39] <tweek> but im thinknig about makeing a newbs guide to it, it stumped the hell out of me when i first tried linux :)
[04:39] <djm62> JinxColor: generally, "./configure&&make&&make install"
[04:39] <pantz> tweek, i pasted there under nick pantz
[04:39] <tweek> ok
[04:39] <pantz> tweek, how do you go see it?
[04:40] <JinxColor> SeamusLP : ok, want too but where/what is that
[04:40] <tweek> ok it looks all good
[04:40] <djm62> JinxColor: google ubuntu wiki
[04:40] <MaCaDe> JinxColor: not sure what you mean - are you asking for suggestions for another distro to switch to?
[04:40] <SeamusLP> JinxColor:  Check it out, the wiki has a lot of great howto guides.  http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org
[04:40] <pharaonic_anubis> Does ubuntu have builtin support for .rar archives?
[04:40] <pantz> tweek, so now i try sudo modprobe rt2500
[04:40] <JinxColor> SeamusLP : thank you ! and djm62  you too
[04:40] <tweek> try try :)
[04:41] <pantz> pantz@arwen:~/rt2500-cvs-20050416/Module$ sudo modprobe rt2500
[04:41] <pantz> FATAL: Module rt2500 not found.
[04:41] <JinxColor> MaCaDe : no no, don't worry the others helped me
[04:41] <SysFail> no it doesnt...and I found out the rar in synaptic wont do alot of files
[04:41] <tweek> i cant help you much now i have no wireless to help you :\
[04:41] <SysFail> i had to run winrar in wine
[04:41] <djm62> pharaonic_anubis: no...you can run winrar under wine
[04:41] <djm62> why is rar so badly supported?
[04:41] <tweek> uhh
[04:41] <SysFail> wish i knew
[04:41] <tweek> its suppoerted great
[04:41] <pantz> tweek, why would modprobe not find it?
[04:41] <tweek> IMO
[04:41] <MaCaDe> JinxColor: maybe another way is to manually download the .deb in question, then use "dpkg --force-depend --install package.deb"
[04:41] <tweek> im not sure pantz :\
[04:41] <SeamusLP> djm62:  The rar package is perfect, in multiverse I believe
[04:41] <pharaonic_anubis> winrar under wine huh? sheesh... might as well just be running XP right now.
[04:42] <SysFail> its only managed to unrar about half the files ive used
[04:42] <SeamusLP> djm62:  It's shareware but it integrates nicely with fileroller
[04:42] <djm62> SeamusLP: why isn't there a FLOSS thing though?
[04:42] <SeamusLP> djm62: oh there is, but it sucks
[04:42] <Smeven> I am attempting to get my wpc54g wireless card, it claims the driver is acx (acx111), when i insert the pcmcia card it attempts to load the driver and create the device, but it only produces errors.
[04:43] <pantz> tweek, so you think from my output that it has compiled correctly and i have correctly done all that you can help me with ?
[04:43] <djm62> SeamusLP: for me, that counts as "badly supported": is there something especially difficult about rar files?
[04:43] <tweek> pantz it appears as tho it should work
[04:43] <SeamusLP> djm62:  It's proprietary?  I mean it's shareware but I don't think it's going to bug you
[04:43] <tweek> i will read more documentation
[04:43] <tweek> one moment
[04:44] <pharaonic_anubis> Getting cedega to actually run alot of stuff is ridiculously difficult.
[04:44] <SeamusLP> djm62:  The main problem with the free unrar is that it doesn't support rar 3.0
[04:44] <djm62> SeamusLP: so rar files are closed formats?
[04:44] <pantz> tweek, am i right in trying to do modprobe rt2500?
[04:45] <tweek> i dont know, try running "rt2500" and see if that is a command
[04:45] <SeamusLP> djm62 Yeah I'm pretty sure.... I mean I use the shareware... maybe I'll pay for it one day, heh.
[04:45] <crimsun> SeamusLP: you can install rar from multiverse
[04:46] <pharaonic_anubis> rar-2.80
[04:46] <SeamusLP> crimsun: yes I know :)
[04:46] <SysFail> not 3.0 though
[04:46] <Phoenix_Away> does anyone here have experience getting a UT2004 dedicated server running?
[04:46] <crimsun> 3.30-2 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages
[04:46] <Phoenix_Away> Im absolutely losing my mind
[04:46] <tweek> i sell spare minds!
[04:46] <djm62> pharaonic_anubis: are you using commercial or CVS cedega
[04:47] <Phoenix_Away> tweek: how much?
[04:47] <SysFail> hmmm ill look after this dvd finishes burning crimsun
[04:47] <tweek> uhhh
[04:47] <crimsun> SysFail: it's also 3.30-2 in Hoary.
[04:47] <SysFail> didnt know 3 was in there
[04:47] <pantz> tweek, nope - anyhoo -thanks heaps for your time - i will join the sourceforge project mailing list i think
[04:47] <tweek> a G5 mac
[04:47] <crimsun> SysFail: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/rar
[04:47] <tweek> np pantz
[04:47] <tweek> good luck
[04:47] <pantz> tweek, thanks - i think i'm gonna need it
[04:47] <pantz> :)
[04:47] <tweek> :)
[04:47] <mikeco> hrm
[04:47] <noodle_> any have any luck with ibook G4 and sleep?
[04:48] <tweek> brb.
[04:48] <mikeco> after  much effort, it seems fglrx doesn't work with composite, so back to nvidia we go
[04:50] <hua> I can open www.shoutcast.com in rhythbox , but it's no sound.
[04:51] <SysFail> i cant understand ppls attraction to rhythmbox
[04:51] <^thehatsrule^> xmms!
[04:51] <crimsun> SysFail: choice is a good thing :)
[04:51] <SysFail> xmms is only 100x better
[04:51] <djm62> SysFail: when it works, it's good
[04:51] <^thehatsrule^> is that RAR from rarlabs/rarsoft?
[04:51] <crimsun> ^thehatsrule^: yes
[04:51] <SysFail> yup...never anything wrong with choice
[04:51] <^thehatsrule^> ah, thought it was a trial heh
[04:51] <SysFail> heh
[04:52] <crimsun> ^thehatsrule^: (it doesn't expire, if that's what you're getting at :)
[04:52] <^thehatsrule^> ah so a free trial! nice
[04:52] <^thehatsrule^> i packaged one for DSL... so i was just making sure
[04:53] <^thehatsrule^> theres only a restriction on sfx's tho i think
[04:53] <kassetra> I switched from xmms to bmp, just recently though... got tired of the really bad fonts and no gtk2 integration...
[04:53] <^thehatsrule^> xmms looks great imo
[04:54] <mikeco> yeah, but has only a playlist
[04:54] <crimsun> xmms plugins can be used with libxmms
[04:54] <mikeco> it's nice to have something to organize things nicely
[04:54] <djm62> is there a package that can identify mp3s/oggs similar to cddb?
[04:55] <darkaudit> djm62: you can do it through Juk or amaroK, but libtunepimp-bin needs to be rebuilt... it was packaged without mp3 support
[04:55] <darkaudit> sudo apt-built --reinstall install libtunepimp-bin
[04:55] <crimsun> darkaudit: same reason gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe and not main.
[04:56] <hua> I sucess. I go to www.shoutcast.com via firefox , then tune in , I can hear the music. It's very  cool. Thanks SeamusLP and djm62.
[04:56] <fishhead> man that was bad acting, dylan looked like he was trying to take a bad s**t not wake up
[04:56] <kassetra> bmp = xmms, only on gtk2... which means I've just about eliminated any need for gtk1
[04:56] <darkaudit> if you get an error at the end about --force-yes, go into synaptic and the new packages will be there to install
[04:56] <SeamusLP> hua:  Any time man
[04:57] <JinxColor> si
[04:57] <djm62> darkaudit: ach...it's only a convenience thing...I'll wait for it to hit $favourite_music_player
[04:58] <Zotnix> xmms2 is coming out which will have several frontends
[04:58] <Zotnix> Oops. wrong channel
[04:59] <darkaudit> djm62: it's why I stuck with XP as long as I did... musicmatch and media player (unclean!) did a much better job at identifying my mp3's
[05:00] <djm62> the filenames are descriptive enough, most stuff I just re-ripped anyway
[05:00] <tweek> does anyone have some free time and insight to getting an ac97 based sound card to work?
[05:00] <crimsun> I'd like to see vorbisgain support added to sound juicer, so I should whip up a patch
[05:01] <djm62> just to savour my newfound disk space (and indeed the fact I have a CD drive for the first time)
[05:01] <crimsun> tweek: shoot
[05:01] <Marble2> Can someone help me out? I've searched around on the forums and I can't find anything. How can I get my MX500 to work like it does in windows, i.e I can hold in mouse3 for scrolling in firefox, etc
[05:01] <Marble2> use mouse4 and 5 for back and forward
[05:02] <tweek> Crimsun, my sound works when i login it plays the sounds. but when i goto play say openglad it fails to start saying it cant find a working sound device
[05:02] <crimsun> tweek: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:02] <djm62> Marble2: the firefox scrolling thing is an option in menu Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Browsing
[05:02] <tweek> need the output?
[05:03] <djm62> Marble2: the forward/back thing I've never heard of, I'm afraid
[05:03] <crimsun> tweek: either #flood or http://pastebin.com
[05:03] <falkryn> hello everyone, is there a way of using the livecd as an installer?  (ppc platform)
[05:03] <Marble2> holy crap
[05:03] <Marble2> I thought that was a mouse thing
[05:03] <crimsun> falkryn: not yet, though it's being worked on
[05:03] <Marble2> you've never heard of the back and forward though?
[05:03] <tweek> http://pastebin.com/272254
[05:03] <falkryn> ah, ok.  thanks
[05:03] <tweek> @ Crimsun
[05:04] <djm62> Marble2: middle-button is conventionally paste on X window system
[05:04] <crimsun> tweek: ok, sec.
[05:04] <chaotic_linux> i need help to install sinek
[05:04] <djm62> Marble2: backspace is set to back (at least on my ubuntu)
[05:05] <crimsun> tweek: ok, now please paste the output of ,,amixer''
[05:05] <crimsun> tweek: (onto pastebin)
[05:05] <Marble2> hm
[05:05] <Marble2> okay
[05:06] <tweek> http://pastebin.com/272257 @crimsun
[05:06] <chaotic_linux> i need help to install sinek
[05:06] <delltony> hey crimsun curious you know where i would find a really great tutorial on setting up a cough cough linmodem (ltmodem) ?  i have looked here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6361.html with no luck.  See i'm wanting to give this computer to my aunt but me personally i haven't used modems in ages.
[05:07] <crimsun> delltony: I'm afraid I don't know offhand, sorry, but resourceful use of search engines would benefit. :)
[05:07] <LycoN> Can someone please tell me why when i type nc -l -p 80 -vv it tells me permission denie
[05:07] <tweek> because your not root?
[05:08] <LycoN> shit
[05:08] <LycoN> ur right
[05:08] <tweek> lol
[05:08] <tweek> :|
[05:08] <LycoN> ii thought i was in Rterminal
[05:08] <delltony> yeah been searching for sure. ill keep trying thanks again
[05:09] <chaotic_linux> i need help to install sinek
[05:10] <LycoN> if i run a script on one terminal then listen on the port on another terminal will i find ne thing
[05:12] <majic> I've had 5.04 on my machine for a week and my update manager is still saying there are no updates. Are there really no updates? (I find that very strange if true)
[05:12] <Burgundavia> majic, that is true
[05:12] <djm62> majic: yep...it's ok for now
[05:12] <majic> weird
[05:12] <Burgundavia> majic, hoary is now only getting security and major bugfixes
[05:13] <majic> ok
[05:13] <nickrud> didn't ubuntu-artwork update?
[05:13] <majic> I figured there would be an update for Firefox
[05:13] <majic> nickrud, not for me
[05:13] <NotANick> delltony: dl the latest drivers from http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/
[05:14] <tweek> Crimsun find any breaking developments?
[05:14] <LycoN> How do u send a carriage on netcat?
[05:14] <kassetra> hey tweek - have you run gst-register-0.8 in a terminal yet?
[05:14] <NotANick> delltony: use synaptic install: linux-headers, and build-essential
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> what can i use for watching tv direct through a capture card, not a vcr?
[05:14] <NotANick> delltony: then compile the drivers
[05:14] <majic> shouldn't I get a preferences dialog when clicking the preferences button in the update manager? It seems to do a reload instead of giving me the preferences dialog
[05:15] <tweek> no i hav'nt kassetra will try now
[05:15] <kassetra> tweek - that will probably fix your problem.  :)
[05:15] <NotANick> delltony: then sudo modprobe -v ltserial to load the module
[05:15] <tweek> lets hope so :)
[05:15] <LycoN> notanick:
[05:15] <NotANick> ?
[05:15] <kassetra> tweek - if not, I can walk you through getting it fixed.
[05:15] <crimsun> tweek: sorry, kinda busy at the moment, but others should be around to assist :)
[05:15] <LycoN> it is easier if u jsut type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:15] <tweek> alright, il test it brb.
[05:16] <LycoN> and sudo apt-get install linux-header
[05:16] <nickrud> right about Tue, 2005-04-12 at 22:27 +0100, I was writing an eail when the change dropped into incoming
[05:16] <LycoN> so much easier
[05:16] <LycoN> Can anyone tell me how to send a carriage on NetCat?
[05:17] <tweek> Kassetra would that require a restart to take effect?
[05:17] <stevenj> question about playing mps3 -- to play mp3s do I need xmms and xmms-mad?
[05:17] <LycoN> tweek most likely yes
[05:18] <tweek> ok,
[05:18] <_javier_> Hello World !!!
[05:18] <LycoN> HOW DO U SEND A CARRIAGE USING NETCAT someone in here must kno how
[05:18] <pantz> tweek, back again - i thought i might try ndiswrapper - do you know what i need to do once i have synaptic-ed ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils?
[05:18] <majic> why isn't PHP 5 in the universe repo?
[05:19] <LycoN> pantz: did you download them
[05:19] <pantz> LycoN, i installed them with apt-get
[05:19] <nickrud> was updated at the same time mozilla-firefox-locale-all
[05:19] <kassetra> tweek - no.
[05:19] <LycoN> then your done
[05:19] <pantz> oh ok
[05:19] <pantz> :)
[05:19] <LycoN> man i need some super help
[05:20] <LycoN> but no one can help me
[05:20] <pantz> LycoN, super as in ...
[05:20] <kassetra> tweek - you didn't need to restart.
[05:20] <phxguy> Can Someone pint me to a good How-To on recompiling the kernel in Ubuntu
[05:20] <tweek> :\
[05:20] <LycoN> someone that knows how to send a carriage using netcat
[05:20] <phxguy> point i mean
[05:20] <gratuit> is there any easy way to back up my entire root directory to dvd? (it's less than 4.7 GB)
[05:21] <kassetra> tweek - you say you have an ac97, correct?
[05:21] <tweek> that didnt solve it :\
[05:21] <tweek> ac97 based card
[05:21] <kassetra> Hoary or Warty?
[05:21] <tweek> Hoary
[05:21] <gratuit> I want to be able to simply put a HD in the computer, and copy my root partition over...
[05:21] <stevenj> someone must know if xmms-mad is what gives the ability to play mp3s?
[05:21] <tweek> yes
[05:21] <tweek> it is
[05:21] <LycoN> sudo apt-get install xmms-mad?
[05:22] <pantz> LycoN, oh that's easy - unfortunately i have to go and hang out the washing - for the next 10 hours so i can't help ya
[05:22] <phxguy> I have that same Card in Hoary and Xmms work okay
[05:22] <tweek> yes or use the packedge manager
[05:22] <LycoN> pantz
[05:22] <kassetra> tweek - ok.  Let me get you some instructions.
[05:22] <pantz> LycoN,
[05:22] <tweek> ok.
[05:22] <stevenj> thanks -- it was called xmms-mp3 in fedora sO i was just wondering
[05:22] <LycoN> how easy is it?
[05:22] <kassetra> tweek - alsa sounds like poo with the ac97, so you have to convert to esd completely.
[05:22] <pantz> :) i am talking crap - i can
[05:22] <pantz> 't really help ya
[05:22] <LycoN> haha
[05:22] <LycoN> thanks
[05:22] <tweek> id be greatfull for any sound :)
[05:23] <LycoN> =)
[05:23] <crimsun> stevenj: no
[05:23] <crimsun> stevenj: xmms and beep-media-player both already contain a modified mpg123 library allowing them to play mp3s
[05:24] <crimsun> stevenj: xmms-mad is simply another mp3 decoder library
[05:24] <revelater> whoever was helping me out before: yse it looks like gnucash will fill at least part if not all of the problem
[05:24] <LycoN> after unpacking xmms how do i play mp3s?
[05:24] <tweek> open with them with xmms
[05:24] <crimsun> LycoN: either drag them onto the player, or use the playlist/load functions
[05:24] <LycoN> ok
[05:25] <stevenj> crimsun, I see..I see...I have not installed xmms yet...thanks for the info
[05:25] <LycoN> man thats sweet
[05:25] <LycoN> who uses gnucleus here?
[05:26] <LycoN> mine freezes after i try to install
[05:26] <bur[n] er> no one i know
[05:26] <tweek> thats a nifty name :)
[05:26] <LycoN> wat p2p u guys use?
[05:26] <tweek> none
[05:26] <LycoN> I had limewire pro for a while
[05:26] <tweek> pirateing is badzor
[05:26] <bur[n] er> werd
[05:26] <tweek> :)
[05:26] <LycoN> rofl dude after i found torrents
[05:27] <mikeco> i'm sure he wants p2p for transferring isos of linux
[05:27] <LycoN> i havent wasted a penny on anything that i could get off of torrents
[05:27] <tweek> o i bet
[05:27] <bur[n] er> isos of linux... i'd say torrents then :)
[05:27] <tweek> i have a legal winxp disc somwhere
[05:27] <tweek> :O
[05:27] <LycoN> i need it
[05:27] <LycoN> all i have is linux
[05:27] <bur[n] er> too bad azureus isn't in hoary or in universe/multiverse
[05:27] <tweek> so?
[05:27] <shawn_grimes> Is it possible to set up a wireless config on a Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:27] <crimsun> tweek: sorry, just read your pastebin entry.
[05:27] <Quest-Master> Azureus is easy enough to install
[05:28] <LycoN> grub gave me error 21
[05:28] <crimsun> tweek: please mute the iec958 mixer element if you're not using the spdif/optical out
[05:28] <mikeco> windows doesn't cost much
[05:28] <tweek> i dont know how :x
[05:28] <LycoN> so i just installed ubuntu over winxp
[05:28] <mikeco> besides, what else do you work for, besides to spend money
[05:28] <LycoN> best thing i ever did
[05:28] <bur[n] er> Quest-Master: even easier when you add debian unstable branch to sources :)
[05:28] <crimsun> tweek: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[05:28] <crimsun> tweek: or use alsamixer (press 'm' to mute)
[05:28] <Quest-Master> bur[n] er: hehe
[05:28] <tweek> thanks
[05:28] <tweek> should it run now?
[05:29] <LycoN> download paul oakenfold - ready steady go
[05:29] <LycoN> nice song
[05:29] <crimsun> tweek: (I thought your problem was that you can't hear sound?)
[05:29] <tweek> try some max pensey
[05:29] <tweek> my problem is that no card is detected by games
[05:29] <tweek> or players
[05:29] <LycoN> soundcard or gcard?
[05:29] <tweek> sound
[05:30] <LycoN> blows
[05:30] <crimsun> tweek: nforce? ok. sec.
[05:30] <tweek> sorry if im saying the wrong things :)
[05:30] <LycoN> crimsun: how do u send a carriage thru netcat?
[05:30] <LycoN> crimsun: do u kno?
[05:31] <crimsun> LycoN: please use a search engine :)
[05:31] <LycoN> dude tried
[05:31] <mikeco> hmm
[05:31] <LycoN> googled for hours
[05:31] <LycoN> no luck
[05:31] <LycoN> ill do it again
[05:31] <crimsun> 0x0D should be a CR
[05:32] <k-otik> is nmap working for everyone else ok on 5.04?
[05:32] <darGor> to download music, what linux program can i use ???
[05:32] <ablyss> k-otik, tried running nmap as sudo?
[05:32] <LycoN> darGor: try Gnucleus
[05:32] <crimsun> tweek: what games are giving you those errors?
[05:33] <mikeco> odd
[05:33] <shawn_grimes> Is it possible to set up a wireless config on a Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:33] <crimsun> tweek: please paste an example error message onto pastebin.com
[05:33] <mikeco> dvd playback is sketchy
[05:33] <pantz> darGor, limewire works ok
[05:33] <crimsun> mikeco: is DMA enabled?
[05:33] <mikeco> yep
[05:33] <mikeco> that's why i said "odd"
[05:33] <darGor> LycoN: Gnucleus? P2P?  i dont want torrent/emule
[05:33] <pantz> check ubuntuguide.org for how to set it up
[05:33] <mikeco> it didn't do it about an hour ago
[05:33] <LycoN> darGor: it is p2p
[05:33] <darGor> pantz: limewire? oki. apt-get install limewire (??)
[05:34] <stevenj> one other (minor) issue I having is the firestarter icon does not seem to be transparent in gnome panel (tray)? any idea how to fix that?
[05:34] <tweek> Crimsun one monet i must reinstall a few of them :)
[05:34] <crimsun> mikeco: the kernel will disable DMA if the drive spews related errors
[05:34] <dataw0lf> darGor: limewire isn't included within the repos, you'll have to download the (java) client and install it yourself.
[05:34] <mikeco> dma is on
[05:35] <mikeco> it was playing a movie an hour or so ago
[05:35] <crimsun> mikeco: ok, what sort of symptoms?
[05:35] <tweek> http://rafb.net/paste/results/VSJKll31.html @ Crimsun
[05:35] <crimsun> tweek: k
[05:35] <mikeco> this new dvd, spiderman2 just started glitching
[05:35] <LycoN> was command lets u find the id to kill
[05:35] <ablyss> mplayer works great in ubunto
[05:35] <ablyss> ubuntu
[05:35] <crimsun> LycoN: pkill <some app>
[05:35] <Quest-Master> Can the Ubuntu CD ISO be burned to a DVD?
[05:35] <crimsun> LycoN: that's probably easier than using ps and then kill
[05:36] <dcraven> darGor, if you want Limewire --> http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:36] <k-otik> ablyss it workin ok i suppose just takes long time and i get false-positives. (everyport "open")
[05:36] <darGor> dataw0lf: oki thanks, will download java first.
[05:36] <membreya> quick question for the breezy guys, the Breezy Changes mailig list is only for any changes, not for any support correct?
[05:36] <crimsun> tweek: unfortunately that error is very vague; it can mean the device it tried to open blocked, or none exists, or ...
[05:36] <ablyss> k-otik, good
[05:36] <mikeco> wtf
[05:36] <LycoN> well it wont kill
[05:36] <membreya> tweek: how'd you go with your sound?
[05:36] <Quest-Master> Or is there an Ubuntu DVD image?
[05:36] <mikeco> why is ide-scsi loaded
[05:36] <mikeco> that's about deprecated
[05:37] <crimsun> tweek: please pgrep esd
[05:37] <tweek> its getting there me thinks :O
[05:37] <Burgundavia> Quest-Master, there is a dvd iso
[05:37] <tweek> 7057
[05:37] <Burgundavia> membreya, coorect
[05:37] <dcraven> membreya, correct.
[05:37] <Burgundavia> membreya, support is ubuntu-users
[05:38] <crimsun> tweek: excellent.
[05:38] <membreya> really? damn that will get confusing..breezy, hoary and warty all on the one list.
[05:38] <crimsun> tweek: Try this: pkill esd
[05:38] <stevenj> whats the difference in dvd ISO...I just downloaded the 386 ISO and burned to a DVD (just because I ran out of CDRWs)
[05:38] <membreya> as it is I get 150+ emails a day on that list :P
[05:38] <crimsun> tweek: then rerun openglad
[05:38] <tweek> :DDDDDDDDD
[05:39] <tweek> thanks sooo much
[05:39] <senator32> im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset. I am doing ok but i need to know the ubuntu / kbuntu linux source directory so i can install the driver there
[05:39] <andrewski> ok, *really* not to be a pain, but has anyone looked into the status of the nvidia freezing?  e.g. is it going to be fixed anytime soon?
[05:39] <crimsun> np. The symptom is much as I suspected: esd grabbed /dev/dsp (via alsa's oss emulation), which blocked any other applications attempting to access it
[05:39] <Quest-Master> Burgundavia: Can you link me to where I can find those DVD ISOs?
[05:39] <stevenj> why would there have to be a DVD ISO since the entire Ubuntu will fit on a regular CDRW
[05:39] <tweek> i see, maybe make a not of that? for the devs?
[05:39] <membreya> andrewski: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7183
[05:39] <tweek> note*
[05:40] <membreya> stevenj: because not all the packages fit on a CD :P
[05:40] <Quest-Master> stevenj: My friend doesn't have any empty CDs, only a few DVDs left over
[05:40] <k-otik> is there a way to connect to microsofts terminal service from ubuntu?
[05:40] <skel_home> anyone using amd64 version of Ubuntu 5.04 able to get ethereal to work? it segfaults for me on packet capture
[05:40] <senator32> im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset. I am doing ok but i need to know the ubuntu / kbuntu linux source directory so i can install the driver there
[05:40] <stevenj> Quest-Master, you can still burn the regular ISO on a DVD
[05:40] <skel_home> I can analyze and existing traffic dump fine
[05:40] <senator32> plz help
[05:40] <andrewski> membreya: is that a bad link or is it just down now?
[05:40] <stevenj> Quest-Master, same thing
[05:40] <membreya> andrewski: works perfectly for me
[05:41] <sayao> could someone please change the firefox icon!!
[05:41] <Quest-Master> stevenj: He'd still like the DVD ISO though
[05:41] <sayao> the current one is just sooooo ugly
[05:41] <dcraven> senator32, kernel source typically goes in /usr/src/  if that is what you mean.
[05:41] <crimsun> sayao: have you been able to provide one that's ... "less ugly"? :)
[05:41] <stevenj> Quest-Master, ok
[05:41] <senator32> ill try
[05:41] <Burgundavia> Quest-Master, hmm, thought there were, can't find them
[05:42] <membreya> skel_home: it loads fine on mine (I've just changed to Breezy) ...where abouts is it segfaulting?
[05:42] <sayao> crimsun, yes, just use the default one
[05:42] <Burgundavia> sayao, the issue is that mozilla orgs trademark rules
[05:42] <stevenj> Quest-Master, like I said I dvd once and then I lost it...gave up searching for it
[05:42] <dcraven> sayao, you mean the actually Firefox one or the Ubuntu one?
[05:42] <k-otik> is there a way to connect to microsofts terminal service from ubuntu?
[05:42] <crimsun> skel_home: please obtain strace; file a bug on bugzilla attaching it
[05:42] <sayao> the actually firefox one
[05:42] <Marble2> can someone with success using an MX500 and imwheel getting the thumb buttons to work as back/forward please help?
[05:42] <dcraven> dcraven, I don't think they are allowed to use the actual one in their binary packages.
[05:42] <Burgundavia> sayao, see my comment above. They cannot currently
[05:42] <dcraven> err..sayao I mean.
[05:43] <crimsun> sayao: as they,ve stated, it's a rights issue
[05:43] <crimsun> they've^
[05:43] <dcraven> messaged myself...
[05:43] <senator32> dcraven i still cant get it to work i am looking for the kernel source directory
[05:43] <sayao> humm.. weird trademark rule
[05:43] <crimsun> senator32: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 ?
[05:43] <senator32> let me try
[05:43] <crimsun> senator32: what are you attempting to accomplish?
[05:43] <dcraven> senator32, the kernel source isn't there by default. I think you need to install linux-source.
[05:43] <senator32> install a wifi driver
[05:44] <Marble2> Anyone?
[05:44] <sayao> are you guys sure, it makes no sense? you can ship the product but not the icon?
[05:44] <Burgundavia> sayao, not really, but they didn't think it out
[05:44] <membreya> skel_home: where abouts is ethereal seg faulting???
[05:44] <Burgundavia> sayao, they don't want people shipping spyware infested stuff with the ff logo
[05:44] <SiRrUs> good evening
[05:44] <dcraven> sayao, only "official" Mozilla binaries can use the official icon I beleive.
[05:44] <Burgundavia> sayao, and the name actually
[05:45] <senator32> im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset.
[05:45] <membreya> hmmm lol how many messages can kmail store before performance starts to get affected??? :P
[05:45] <crimsun> sayao: please see http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/03/msg00006.html
[05:45] <sayao> humm
[05:45] <senator32> crimsun : im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset.
[05:45] <dcraven> senator32, are there native drivers for that chipset or do you need to use ndiswrapper?
[05:46] <membreya> my ubuntu maillig list has 6 and a half thousand messages..just wondering if I should archive some of them ;)
[05:46] <IIIEars_> lol
[05:46] <crimsun> thank goodness for gmane and lists.u.c
[05:46] <senator32> well i cant find the correct .inf file to use ndiswrapper
[05:46] <senator32> wont work
[05:47] <IIIEars_> I love Ubuntu! - You guys have made something truely great. :)
[05:47] <senator32> so im using the prism2_cs drivers made by someone else
[05:47] <dcraven> senator32, I see a prism2_usb module that is included with the Ubuntu kernel.
[05:48] <skel_home> crimsun: ok I'll get an strace
[05:48] <senator32> yea this is a pcmcia card
[05:48] <senator32> :(
[05:48] <skel_home> membreya: sorry.. plumbing went nuts
[05:48] <skel_home> membreya: after I click capture
[05:48] <dcraven> senator32, I should just be quiet as I don't know about that chipset and I shouldn't steer you in the wrong direction.
[05:48] <skel_home> membreya: if I load a previous dump everything works peachy.. I can analyze fine
[05:48] <majic> in synaptic if I want to go into the repositories dialog it does a reload of them instead bypassing the repo dialog where I'd like to select the which repos show up
[05:48] <senator32> i like youe help though
[05:48] <senator32> im lost
[05:49] <membreya> skel_home: I'm running amd64..worked perfectly on both hoary and breezy. as crimsun said..use strace on it and find out where it's segfaulting
[05:49] <dcraven> senator32, there is also a prism54 module. I'm just stabbin' here.
[05:49] <majic> is there a bug?
[05:49] <IIIEars_> Hm - really munged synapse trying to add a repository with firestarter in it. - lol
[05:49] <senator32> i think i need prism_cs this is the Speedstream 802.11b ss1021 card
[05:50] <IIIEars_> (sheepish grin) can someone bail me out with the right link for correct syntax
[05:51] <Sodei> Erm, I have a few questions here. I've been considering getting Linux for quite some time, and even downloaded Fedora Core (sadly, the ISO was corrupt). A friend of mine recommended Ubuntu, but I'm lazy and I'd like to know if Ubuntu prompts for a partition before installation.
[05:51] <kakalto> how do I forcefully unmount a cd drive?
[05:51] <membreya> kakalto: umount -r
[05:51] <kakalto> Sodei, yes
[05:51] <IIIEars_> A large hammer?
[05:51] <kakalto> membreya, thanks
[05:52] <kakalto> IIIEars_, sorry, but I'd like to keep it in one piece ;)
[05:52] <Sodei> Thanks, Kakalto.
[05:52] <membreya> hey..maybe after a few years I can start to answer non-rudimentry questions :P
[05:52] <kakalto> Sodei, no problem, come again :)
[05:52] <IIIEars_> er,  ok but it is fast and works _every_ time.. - lol
[05:52] <Sodei> large hammers do keep Pc parts in one piece. One tiny, crushed and useless piece, but still. :P
[05:53] <mocker> Does Ubuntu not configure a boot partition by default?
[05:53] <crimsun> mocker: nope, one /
[05:53] <DavidH86> hey i have a question is ther a rc.local file
[05:53] <DavidH86> or a file i can have stuff run at boot
[05:53] <mocker> crimsun: Ok, thought I was going crazy during the auto partition screen... :)
[05:54] <kakalto> mocker, yes
[05:54] <crimsun> DavidH86: nope, create a script, slap it in /etc/init.d/, then read the man page for update-rc.d
[05:54] <k-otik> how the hell do i take a screen shot without presssing the button? (kde)
[05:54] <crimsun> k-otik: K button>Graphics>KSnapshot
[05:54] <dcraven> Damn.. crimsun beat me to the trigger again.