[00:00] <iceroot> !pt | jv_
[00:00] <gartral1> jewome62: ubuntu is ussually released around 23:00 UTC
[00:01] <EoL{s}> Can somebody answer a question I have about the Ubuntu 8.10 installer?
[00:01] <jv_> iceroot: I know that, tx..wondering if there was anyone close to my area...
[00:01] <gartral1> (least, according to my math >.>)
[00:01] <tty> lta
[00:01] <MaT-dg> I have a discussion on this: does 'opensource' mean that the dev's on ubuntu 9.10 have to be 'open' about the new theme('s) or can they hide the state of development until the release?
[00:01] <iceroot> EoL{s}: #ubuntu+1
[00:02] <mado> musikgoat|main, was bedeutet dein befehl auf deutsch?
[00:02] <iceroot> EoL{s}: ah sorry, get it wrong, just ask the question
[00:02] <musikgoat|main> mado, english please,  the line was a for loop running that command the number of times in the seq (sequence)
[00:03] <mado> musikgoat|main, i wrote in english but you didn't answer ... so i tried german ... because "musik" is the german word for "music" isn't it? :)
[00:03] <musikgoat|main> yes
[00:03] <EoL{s}> iceroot: I have two hard drives, if I erase the partition on one, can I create the appropriate partitions for ubuntu during the installation?
[00:03] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: As far as I understand every package has it's own dev mailing list one can subscribe to if they want to...
[00:04] <n_nm> when can we get 9.04
[00:04] <iceroot> EoL{s}: yes
[00:04] <iceroot> n_nm: today (23.04)
[00:04] <musikgoat|main> mado: but i'm not german, at least not fully, and I'm not fluent in german :-)
[00:04] <musikgoat|main> mado: but thats neither here nor there
[00:05] <mado> musikgoat|main, ok :)
[00:05] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: I mean for example: blogging on a public blog with screenshots that show how the new theme and icons wil look like
[00:06] <musikgoat|main> mado: i would be careful giving a boss that script though, because then they will expect that you are familiar with bash scripting, and expect more than you can provide ;-)
[00:06] <mado> musikgoat|main, :)
[00:06] <n_nm> i need help enemy territory
[00:06] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: I don't think you'll find anything like that. There might be some sort of svn or git available though.
[00:07] <Sefram> are there any download links for Ubuntu 9.04?
[00:07] <mado> well ... i won't give my boss the command ... but i will tell her / him ... that i have one to make sure that all the files are completely removed ... but erm musikgoat|main  ...
[00:07] <musikgoat|main> mado: otherwise, you can start reading the advanced bash scripting guide for learning some cool tricks with bash
[00:07] <mado> is there a way to try to recover the files?
[00:08] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: as far as I know they keep it well hidden until the final release (maybe RC) so no git or svn
[00:08] <mado> well musikgoat|main ... i'd like to do so ... but i guess i have to learn more basics first :) ... ... erm ... could you suggest me some things i should read ?
[00:08] <musikgoat|main> mado: once the bits have been written over, its not feasible to be able to recover the files,  there have been studies that say that it is still possible, but those have been debunked
[00:08] <musikgoat|main> !absg
[00:09] <musikgoat|main> !abs
[00:09] <blip-> ooh boon2
[00:09] <armagheddonsgw> ok i have issues with pidgin
[00:09] <armagheddonsgw> its crashing after a certain length of time with msn enabled
[00:09] <Psi-Jack> Heh, I see what it means by fakeraid now, basically expensive tasks, the raid "hardware" still uses the CPU to do expensive operations. Oi.
[00:10] <mado> musikgoat|main, i'm asking because i want to write the "recover"-command too so that they can see that there's not really a way ... i just want to be on the safe side :)
[00:10] <RantingHuman> armagheddonsgw, do you perchance use any music-I'm-listening-to plugin with pidgin?
[00:10] <musikgoat|main> i'm not sure what you mean by a recover comand,  i'm not sure one exists
[00:10] <armagheddonsgw> no
[00:11] <armagheddonsgw> have done nothing but download the updates ubuntu suggested
[00:11] <mado> uhuu ... i see ... so ... *thinking* musikgoat|main ...
[00:11] <lucax> whats wrong with intel gma and jaunty rc??
[00:11] <RantingHuman> hm, maybe someone else knows, then
[00:11] <armagheddonsgw> also XP32 is refusing to boot
[00:12] <musikgoat|main> heh, thats like saying,  hmm, this cheese smells funny, and oh yeah, the building is burning down :-)
[00:12] <Pici> !jaunty
[00:13] <mado> so ok then ... for only one round -> sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy <- ---- and what if i want to to run it more than once ... for example ... twice ... then i will write ,,, for 2 in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ?? musikgoat|main ?
[00:13] <armagheddonsgw> got issues with windows: it wont boot since installing ubuntu, and unlike last time, ubuntu is the primary bootloader
[00:13] <musikgoat|main> mado,  you could simply do:  sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy && sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy
[00:13] <musikgoat|main> mado: but no, your logic was a bit wrong
[00:13] <gm|lap> guys, i'm not sure if you're to blame for typos in USB, but:
[00:13] <gm|lap> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Stroage Device
[00:14] <mado> uhuu ... ok musikgoat|main :)
[00:14] <mado> thank you so far musikgoat|main :)
[00:14] <musikgoat|main> mado: for x in `seq 1 2`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done
[00:14] <musikgoat|main> mado: but then the for loop is overkill
[00:14] <armagheddonsgw> anyone able to help me with the windows thingy?
[00:14] <FrozenFire> What's the most common open-source Ubuntu PDF reader that can be utilized by FireFox for in-browser PDF viewing?
[00:14] <mado> for x in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ... ... would be ten times? musikgoat|main ?
[00:15] <mado> oh! musikgoat|main
[00:15] <musikgoat|main> yes mado,  try this:  for x in `seq 1 10`;do echo $x; done
[00:15] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: Installing Ubuntu on a secondary partition, or from Wubi?
[00:15] <armagheddonsgw> wubi?
[00:15] <armagheddonsgw> but yes, i think
[00:15] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human%20Skin  I found a place with some beta images for Karmic Koala..
[00:15] <mrNotYou> Hey
[00:15] <FrozenFire> Wubi installs Ubuntu within Windows, as "an application"
[00:16] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: but yeah you're right, there isn't much in that regards, that's for sure.
[00:16] <mado> uuh! musikgoat|main
[00:16] <mrNotYou> It's 23rd April and Jaunty still not available on stable. Whats going on..?:S
[00:16] <armagheddonsgw> ah. i installed it from the ubuntu disk
[00:16] <musikgoat|main> !outyet | mrNotYou
[00:16] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: Are you absolutely sure you didn't install Ubuntu over top of Windows, destroying the Windows partition?
[00:16] <mado> mrNotYou, what is the time in you time-zone ?
[00:16] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: I read a quote where Mark says they might be looking into colours OTHER than brown for 9.10! wow...
[00:16] <armagheddonsgw> 100% sure
[00:16] <CaneToad> I find that when printing, some document print fine, but others somehow get their status changed to "Held".  There's no report of any error, but such documents are not printing.  What does "Held" mean?
[00:17] <mrNotYou> mado: +2
[00:17] <armagheddonsgw> the boot program crashes for windows
[00:17] <noodly-appendage> mrNotYou: where do yo live?
[00:17] <armagheddonsgw> it does load though
[00:17] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: thx for link, but I don't think that that is the new 'ultimate' theme for 9.10
[00:17] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: I'm not sure Windows likes GRUB without some hacking
[00:17] <burvowski> hi everyone, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the graphics are kind of jittery....how do i go about updating drivers?
[00:17] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: My time zone is +2. it's now 2:17 so even centrally, it shlould be 23rd..
[00:18] <maxriskfactor> any idea at what time Jaunty would be out? Its still showing RC availability on the page
[00:18] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: haha, yeah.. Good lord better not be. hah. It's more than I expected to find though.
[00:18] <noodly-appendage> Where is +2?   I hear ya.
[00:18] <CaneToad> anyone know how to diagnose a "Held" CUPS print job that hasn't printed?
[00:18] <Ned2> I don't think it's 23rd yet anywhere in the U.S.
[00:18] <armagheddonsgw> what were you saying whoever it was who was helping?
[00:19] <mado> uhuu
[00:19] <mrNotYou> Ned2: It is though 12:20 in GMT
[00:19] <Ned2> it's still 22nd 1:19pm where I am
[00:19] <maxriskfactor> the time is 23rd UTC?
[00:19] <Lord_Devi> armagheddonsgw: Pidgin is a PoS. I'm so happy to be using Kopete again myself.
[00:19] <adamy> It's already 6am GMT+7 Hahaha
[00:19] <Lord_Devi> armagheddonsgw: A man's Im client.
[00:19] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: I was saying that Windows doesn't like GRUB without some hacking, if I recall correctly.
[00:19] <noodly-appendage> mrNotYou: if 23:59 rolls around and still no ubuntu, then there would be a problem but it'll come soon enough
[00:20] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: Oh ok.
[00:20] <mrNotYou> Btw, any of you people know some major changes that will be from 8.10 to jaunty?
[00:20] <Ned2> mrNotYou, what states?
[00:20] <armagheddonsgw> ballocks. ok how do i fix it?
[00:20] <Milo> I installed 8.10 and now no matter what I do i have a blank screen (monitor has no signal). tried to install from winxp..can someone give me a little guidance?
[00:20] <noodly-appendage> mrNotYou: if you download the rc, you can probably update via apt once it comes ou t
[00:20] <MaT-dg> Lord_Devi: well, I like it the way it is now (unity theme and compiz eyecandy), but lot's of people don't like the brown and don't know how to tweak
[00:20] <FrozenFire> armagheddonsgw: I have never had to do it, as I don't use Windows, but http://blog.firetree.net/2005/08/26/duel-boot-windows-with-grub/
[00:21] <armagheddonsgw> ok ty
[00:21] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: Nah, im interested in burning the stable on disc cause I wanna install it on another computer too so yahh..
[00:21] <WS|Thermal> Noodly's right though.
[00:21] <vern_> i just converted my ext3 filesystem to ext4, the release notes tell me to run grub-install after. what parameters do I give grub-install? Ubuntu is installed in /dev/sda3 while the first partitions are used for windows. much thanks for any answer i can get!
[00:21] <alcane> is there a way to save text from links2?
[00:21] <WS|Thermal> I installed 8.04 when it was in RC and it auto-updated to release later.
[00:21] <noodly-appendage> at least internet connections are fast enough so downloading 1 cd's worth of data doesn't take a week anymore :)
[00:21] <gene420> any xen experts??
[00:22] <MaT-dg> MaT-dg: And I like eyecandy, but at the same time it has to be clean and simple (not bloated like live messenger for example)
[00:22] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: Unless you set /boot/ to be a different partition
[00:22] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: lol;p here prices are extreme though so im only on 2mbps;/
[00:22] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: just switched back to KDE 4.2(Finally stable! Finally usable!) a couple days ago. It feels SO great to be back in an environment I can really control and alter to my liking. So much more functionality AND eye candy than gnome...
[00:22] <WS|Thermal> GRUB should be installed/stored on your Ubuntu partition.
[00:22] <mrNotYou> noodly-appendage: took about an hour or two to download last version;p not that tragic;p
[00:22] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: What parameters is it asking for?
[00:23] <Lord_Devi> MaT-dg: Hehe.. yeah, well clean and simple went out with window managers. Now we have 'environments'. I like it though... handy for the lazy.
[00:23] <hadis> We can update 9.04 online from 8.10 ,yes??
[00:23] <Lord_Devi> hadis: Just run 'update-manager -d' from within 8.10
[00:23] <mrNotYou> hadis: yeap
[00:23] <Lord_Devi> (while in gnome)
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> Hadis: I wouldn't recommend it.
[00:24] <musikgoat|main> hadis: yes,  run update-manager -d
[00:24] <armagheddonsgw> unfortunately the link is not helpful. i cant edit the necessary file for some stupid reason
[00:24] <vern_> hmm grub-install /dev/sda3 seems to work and my laptop now boots up correctly, i was just making sure because doing the exact same steps previously made my system unbootable
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> You can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.
[00:24] <vern_> thanks thermal
[00:24] <musikgoat|main> WS|Thermal: why not?
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: Download and burn Super Grub Disk.
[00:24] <WS|Thermal> You can use that to restore a FUBAR'd GRUB if you need to.
[00:25] <vern_> good tip, thanks
[00:25] <WS|Thermal> Musikgoat|main: <WS|Thermal> You can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.
[00:25] <Lord_Devi> vern_: he meant to add "if you can make sense of it" ;)
[00:25] <WS|Thermal> I've had my install broken going from 6.06 to 6.10 beyond repair; and a number of other releases too. Its probably much smoother and more likely to succeed now, but a clean install seems to be the way to go.
[00:25] <Ned2> what if I just back everything up first? is that still risky?
[00:26] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: I did actually mean to add that. Silly me.
[00:26] <armagheddonsgw> ok, how can i restore my comp to its previous state? i.e. before installing ubuntu?
[00:26] <musikgoat|main> WS|Thermal: i'll give you that
[00:26] <WS|Thermal> Vern_: You're welcome.
[00:26]  * Lord_Devi grins
[00:26] <MaT-dg> musikgoat|main: hadis: It can be risky sometimes (7.10 to 8.04 no problems, but 8.04 to 8.10 failed here and had to do clean install anyway) AND you miss the new filesystem EXT4
[00:26] <WS|Thermal> musikgoat|main: I'm being paranoid, yes, but I just wanted to let him know that there are risks. Usually it works fine.
[00:26] <musikgoat|main> MaT-dg: you don't miss it if you don't want it ;-)
[00:26] <froosch> MaT-dg: is that the *buggy* e4 or something else?
[00:27] <MaT-dg> hadis: so whatever you do, ALWAYS make sure u have a backup of your important data
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> froosch: the major, i'm going to eat all you data bits for lunch, bug is fixed
[00:27] <WS|Thermal> MaT-dg: Does the conversion not work?
[00:27] <MaT-dg> musikgoat|main: why wouldn't u want it? It promises to be much faster
[00:27]  * Lord_Devi appears in a devil suit beside hadis, Don't bother! Backups take so much time. Wouldn't you rather be gaming?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:27] <WS|Thermal> musikgoat|main: BtrFS looks promising :)
[00:27] <blerk> 12:30am BST, time to release 9.04 yet? :p
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> WS|Thermal: agreed
[00:27] <WS|Thermal> musikgoat|main: very excited about ext4 though.
[00:27] <klu> has 9.04 CD image been released?
[00:28] <MaT-dg> froosch: they said it will be stable in the final release (solved some bug in the RC)
[00:28] <Lord_Devi> Yay BtrFS! The ZFS killer!
[00:28] <mrNotYou> !outyet
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> klu: still in RC, but you can upgrade from the RC to the final release easily.
[00:28] <Icefyre> IS ext4 going to be much faster than ext3?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> mrNotYou: nice factoid
[00:28] <Icefyre> I heard there are issues with data not being written in time
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Early benchmarks indicate a HUGE boost.
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> But only in some areas.
[00:28] <klu> WS|Thermal, I heard it has been distributed to some server
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: ive heard it is faster but is a bit flakey right now
[00:28] <musikgoat|main> klu: lies
[00:28] <klu> JUst don't know the url
[00:28] <Icefyre> so it isn't as stable for hard reboots
[00:28] <digitaloktay> but i have freezez with ext4
[00:28] <Icefyre> cool
[00:28] <WS|Thermal> klu: Official releases are the best way to go... if its been "leaked" its fake.
[00:28] <klu> i c
[00:29] <klu> thx guys
[00:29] <Icefyre> anyone try the RC?
[00:29] <WS|Thermal> klu: Canonical doesn't leak intentionally; unlike Microsoft :P
[00:29] <mrNotYou> STABLE IS OUT ON FTP:p
[00:29] <klu> can't wait :)
[00:29] <Icefyre> I heard it has killer themes
[00:29] <WS|Thermal> mrNotYou: Whaa?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> mrNotYou: just install beta then upgrade to stable
[00:29] <tuxFan> its jaunty out?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: depends on DE
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[00:29] <Icefyre> I think tomorrow it comes out
[00:29] <WS|Thermal> unstable ubuntu is more stable than stable windows tbh
[00:29] <randomusr> hi, I'm trying to use an OS X theme by creating a link, how is this accomplished?
[00:29] <musikgoat|main> hi ActionParsnip
[00:29] <Icefyre> depends on DE?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> hi musikgoat|main
[00:30] <Icefyre> what's a DE?
[00:30] <WS|Thermal> Death Eel.
[00:30] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: What death eel do you have?
[00:30] <digitaloktay> DE = Deutschland Germany :P
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: well if you use kde / gnome / fluxbox / lxde / flwm, the desktop will look different
[00:30] <Icefyre> lol
[00:30] <Icefyre> I meant the GNOME themes
[00:30] <MaT-dg> it's april 23, 01:30AM GMT+1 here... release for me! xD
[00:30] <Icefyre> rather
[00:30] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: He meant desktop environment, we're just screwing with you.
[00:30] <Icefyre> the GTK themes
[00:30] <FloodBot2> Icefyre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <Icefyre> that ship with it
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: you can use any gnome theme you can lay your hands on (?)
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> FloodBot2: Icefyre is flooding! :O
[00:31] <Icefyre> yeah, but its nicer not having to go to gnomelook everytime I install ubuntu
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I the only unstable part of Ubuntu.. pretty much ever, are the proprietary drivers.
[00:31] <musikgoat|main> gnome-look.org
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> Either 3d drivers, or wifi drivers..
[00:31] <Icefyre> the brown theme is the only downside to it
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: i use lxde + kubuntu personally. i dont concern myself with "looks"
[00:31] <Icefyre> I know that website pretty well
[00:31] <Icefyre> go there often
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: Err sorry. I meant for ME.
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: My friend had Vista/Ubuntu dual-booted.
[00:31] <Nasra> hi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc,  should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?
[00:31] <Nasra> thanks
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Somehow he made Ubuntu corrupt the tiniest bit of data.
[00:31] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I hear those two do not play well together.
[00:31] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Then he booted Vista and vista managed to hose the ENTIRE partition table.
[00:31] <Icefyre> I've managed to put ubuntu on some vista machines
[00:32] <Icefyre> works a lot faster
[00:32] <racecar56> back
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Lord_Devi: thats a part of ANY distro, not just ubuntu
[00:32] <derrick-mary> hello I deleted both panels on ubuntu 8.04 64 how do i reinstall
[00:32] <Icefyre> people I do it to had no clue their pc could be so fast
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Vista just hates everything, including itself
[00:32] <Icefyre> why reinstall?
[00:32]  * Lord_Devi shakes his head
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: I have unstable builds of Win7 here though, because of my dad, and its much better.
[00:32] <Icefyre> can't u just re-enable the panels?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: thats because vista's minimal requirements are higher than a default ubbuntu install
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Under NDA though so I can't say more than that.
[00:32] <Icefyre> Win7 isn't as good as XP
[00:32] <derrick-mary> cause my awn doesn't start up when i reboot
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> derrick-mary you should not need to reinstall, you should be able to reset the panels
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: if you want it faster, install puppy linux
[00:32] <Icefyre> in terms of performance
[00:32] <Icefyre> lol
[00:32] <derrick-mary> even with it being checked to do so
[00:32] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Win7 will be. Seriously.
[00:32] <Icefyre> I love puppy!
[00:32] <musikgoat|main> i wonder how many people are going to visit IRC when #ubuntu+1 is merged with #ubuntu,  wasn't there like 1800 or so people for the intrepid release
[00:33] <Icefyre> awesome distro
[00:33] <WS|Thermal> The beta SUCKS compared to the current builds.
[00:33] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I still haven't tried Vista even.. I only have XP for games, and the benchmarks frown on Vista performance numbers compared to Xp
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Icefyre Please dont flood
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> derrick-mary: create a script to execute it and add it to !startup
[00:33] <derrick-mary> how do you do that?
[00:33] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: For non DX10 games of course. I hope Win7 is a little less bloat than Vista
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Icefyre: tried xpud? boots in about 4 seconds here
[00:33] <zach2825> hi guys
[00:33] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Win7 is so much better. I love it.
[00:33] <Icefyre> what is the limit on sentences per second? I'm being warned against flooding...
[00:33] <Blaze_Boy> Problem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but bluetooth and modem are dead ? what i have to do to get them work ?
[00:33] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: The beta is only a glimpse of the improvements. Its actually really high quality stuff.
[00:33] <Nasra> hi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc,  should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?
[00:34] <derrick-mary> action parsnip---how?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> derrick-mary: i'd look into what scripting involves and work from there
[00:34] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Anything above 2 per minute.
[00:34] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: Oh ok cool. I'll give that one a try then.  Its an interesting dynamic.
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasra Did you ever uninstall it, ie can you get to it under options where you login to ubuntu
[00:35] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: Well as a network tech, i'm just interested in how well Win7 plays with others.(Groupware squites, AD.. that sorta thing)
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Icefyre: Much more than that, imo. The best way to summarize it is "vista that *works*"
[00:35] <thebloggu> what directories besides /home should i backup for an upgrade ?
[00:35] <Lord_Devi> :%s/squites/suites
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: depends what you use
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Can't tell you much on that. The network stack has seen some improvements.
[00:35] <Lord_Devi> WS|Thermal: I HATE fighting with WIndows on job :(
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: if you use samba, backup /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: I suggest you grab a leaked build of win7 off some torrents, if you need to test it
[00:35] <WS|Thermal> Lord_Devi: Install it on a VM or a non-production machine though.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: if you use apache, backup /var/www
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> WS|Thermal Please stay on topic
[00:36] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, i use samba indeed, no apache
[00:36] <WS|Thermal> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I did deviate there for a bit. Sorry.
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: you need to think about what you se and backup that, you should have a backup anyway if the data is important
[00:36] <WS|Thermal> No problem.
[00:36] <musikgoat|main> thebloggu: you may want to backup all of /etc
[00:36] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, ok, thank you
[00:37] <thebloggu> musikgoat|main, ok, why ?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: it contains a fewconfig files like hosts, resolv.conf, stuff like that
[00:37] <musikgoat|main> thebloggu: that holds all your configuration files, you can reference the backup if you find that a program doesn't work the way you remember
[00:38] <musikgoat|main> its usually pretty small in size as well
[00:38] <thebloggu> musikgoat|main, ActionParsnip  ok, thank you :)
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: if you havent modified stuff in thre then you dont need to bother
[00:38] <psychic> musikgoat
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: considring its 8Mb (on mine it is) you may as well, if its unneeded, you havent wasted much
[00:40] <musikgoat|main> psychic: yes?
[00:40] <psychic> i tried doing that what u told me but it shows up differnt in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/156210/
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: cd /; clear; sudo du -skh *
[00:40] <mecca_> I just installed (and fully updated) Jaunty.  For some reason, ssh will not start when the machine reboots, even though I've verified that it is set up to auto start (via sysv-rc-conf as well as update-rc.d ssh defaults) Any ideas?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> psychic What did you use as an editor?
[00:41] <musikgoat|main> psychic: you have not moved the second part of the last line to the next line
[00:41] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, you're right
[00:41] <psychic> terminal
[00:41] <thebloggu> ActionParsnip, 16M	etc
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !editor
[00:41] <musikgoat|main> psychic: remember i said to move to 0/dev and hit enter after the 0
[00:41] <psychic> no i know i didnt see the mnt part
[00:41] <musikgoat|main> Jack_Sparrow: he's using nano
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[00:42] <mecca_> ActionParsnip: I've done that as well
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> thebloggu: may as well, eh
[00:42] <musikgoat|main> psychic: the $ means theres more to the line,
[00:42] <psychic> o ok i misread
[00:42] <Crash1hd> I dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?
[00:42] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow: no, I did not uninstall it is still there ..have no try it yet...but if that's so...what should I do?
[00:42] <musikgoat|main> psychic: you must arrow over
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:42] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow:  and by the way mine show ...kubuntu when I reboot it
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasra you can set gnome as the default or read the factoid
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[00:43] <MaT-dg> trying to compile a plugin for pidgin on 8.10 but I get this (cryptical for me) error -> http://pastebin.com/d4c7c3300
[00:43] <psychic> i arrowed over and pressed enter
[00:43] <mecca_> ActionParsnip: Good point, I haven't completely removed it and re-installed.  I'll give it a shot, thanks
[00:43]  * Dolo is starting to lose it - when does 9.04 get released!?!
[00:43] <drinkycrow> what's the difference between .04 and .10 releases?
[00:43] <musikgoat|main> Dolo: better find what you lost
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: worth ashot
[00:43] <Pici> drinkycrow: The month they were released.
[00:43] <aymen> hi
[00:43] <Pici> drinkycrow: 04 = April, 10 = october
[00:43] <Crash1hd> simNIX: I dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?
[00:43] <randomusr> I want to install an OSX theme but don't understand the concept, could someone explain this a bit?
[00:43] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow: no need to uninstall it, correct?
[00:44] <Pici> !outyet | Dolo
[00:44] <aymen> i have problem can help me
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasra Yes and no
[00:44] <carlitos__> maldito hijo  de  puta
[00:44] <drinkycrow> that makes sense
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac
[00:44] <musikgoat|main> psychic: so, are you figuring it out?
[00:44] <carlitos__> traes papel y jodes webon
[00:44] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow: let me reboot it and see...brb thanks
[00:44] <musikgoat|main> !es | carlitos__
[00:44] <MaT-dg> Crash1hd: u don't have to worr about windows virusses at all
[00:45] <psychic> so should it look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156213/
[00:45] <musikgoat|main> psychic: yes
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !ask | aymen
[00:45] <psychic> now just save?
[00:45] <Crash1hd> MaT-dg: ok can I clean a hdd that has a windows virus on it through some software on ubuntu?
[00:45] <musikgoat|main> psychic: but you can try commenting out the /mnt/
[00:45] <^Phantom2^> Okay, I'm back.
[00:45] <musikgoat|main> psychic: add a # to that line... before the /mnt
[00:46] <musikgoat|main> psychic: then save and exit
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Crash1hd clamav
[00:46] <Challenger> Hey, I'm looking for Finnish Ubuntu fans and the Finnish Ubuntu mailing list.
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[00:46] <Pici> !fi | Challenger
[00:46] <Crash1hd> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[00:46] <Challenger> :P
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> !finland
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> !finnish
[00:46] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I already did the factoid.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> bah
[00:46] <inasmu> !askthebot
[00:46] <randomusr> that sucked
[00:47] <randomusr> let me try this again
[00:47] <^Phantom2^> I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950 Hybrid Stick tv-tuner, and I am having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize it and allow me to watch tv with it.  Is there anything I can do about this problem?
[00:47] <randomusr> could someone explain how to install a Theme like OSX?
[00:47] <EoL{s}> iceroot: Still there?
[00:47] <Pici> !changethemes | randomusr seen this
[00:47] <mrNotYou> randomusr: Yeap
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: check that link, it will tll you how to configure it
[00:48] <randomusr> Thanks All
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> randomusr Look into cairo-dock and it has an osx theme
[00:48] <mrNotYou> randomusr: gnome-look.org. get an osx theme there. then get cairo-dock, it will allow you to put a dock like the os x dock on windows
[00:48]  * ^Phantom2^ sits and waits, while petting the cat
[00:48] <randomusr> mrNotYou I want to change the look of window managers, Icons, etc
[00:49] <mrNotYou> randomusr: you can get all of that from gnome-look.org
[00:49] <musikgoat|main> randomusr: gnome-look.org has that
[00:49] <randomusr> I know how to get the dock
[00:49] <mrNotYou> randomusr: then get cairo-dock and set the dock;)
[00:49] <mrNotYou> and ure done;)
[00:49] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow: rather uninstall kde desktop and install gnome desktop, whatis the command for doing that?
[00:49] <randomusr> I want my windows and everything to match lol
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: search synaptic, you can install avant-window-navigator or cairo-dock
[00:49] <EoL{s}> If I shrink a partition using Windows Vista, and I choose "use largest continuous free space" installer option, will that affect any of my other partitions?
[00:50] <randomusr> OK again, I know hot to get the dock
[00:50] <randomusr> I want a better overall look
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[00:50] <randomusr> I'll check the themes page
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: after shrinking, the largest contiguous space will be the space you made
[00:50] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow:  thanks
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> randomusr then what you want is subject and not really what we do here
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> maximo np
[00:50] <EoL{s}> ACtionParsnip: Yeah, but, the little bar shows Ubuntu 100% on the whole hard drive.
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> subjective
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: look round for stuff to add is all i can suggest
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: then its not right
[00:51] <djlinux64> is the 9.04 release in 5 hours, at midnight?
[00:51] <Pici> !outyet | djlinux64
[00:51] <MaT-dg> can I use windows driver for my webcam like u can use windows drivers for networkcard with ndiswrapper?
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> djlinux64 doubtful
[00:51] <psychic> musikgoat this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/
[00:51] <djlinux64> more like 29 hours?
[00:51] <EoL{s}> ACtionParsnip: Should I disregard it?
[00:51] <jsast21> join #ubuntu-release-party
[00:51] <Pici> djlinux64: More like when its done.
[00:51] <djlinux64> got it thx
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: if you plan your partitions you do not have to resize as you can make the windows partition use only part of the drive
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: no, do not disregard it
[00:52] <Othor> \join #linuxoutlaws
[00:52] <simNIX> i like them :0
[00:52] <g4lv4tr0n> just noticed countdown on ubuntu site has now changed from 1 day to go to coming soon
[00:52] <EoL{s}> ActionParsnip: I reduced the Windows Vista partition by about 17 gigabytes.
[00:53] <^Phantom2^> EoL{s}: good job
[00:53] <Pelle> Noob Q: I cant copy a simple folder! I first select cut, but then I cant paste it where I want it
[00:53] <EoL{s}> But it still shows 100% ubuntu, and I don't want that...
[00:53] <^Phantom2^> honestly, i'll never go past windows XP until Micro$haft puts out a fully working OS
[00:53] <^Phantom2^> besides, i like ubuntu a lot now
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: Ive never used resize as i plan my partitions first
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> EoL{s}: so im not the guy to ask
[00:54] <g4lv4tr0n> jaunty has real good wine support :)
[00:54] <Pelle> paste is grayed out
[00:54] <EoL{s}> Oh, ok then.
[00:54] <g4lv4tr0n> i used to get access violation in intrepid with most things on wine
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ^Phantom2^: xp rarely works
[00:55] <n2diy> does Ubuntu work with AIM?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> g4lv4tr0n: wine is maintained by wine, its not got much to do with ubuntu
[00:55] <Pelle> someone know what I do wrong?
[00:55] <Rodya> I've managed to screw up my file permissions... When doing ls -ahl, I am seeing drwsrwsrwx for directories, and I don't know what the s is or how to make it go away, any help?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: theres pidgin
[00:55] <EoL{s}> ActionParsnip: I'll try to do it manually then. Just one thing, one guide told me to make the slack space 500mb, another told me to make it double my computer memory. Which is best?
[00:56] <wrice_> Pelle: You may not have the appropriate permissions to move the folder
[00:56] <g4lv4tr0n> yeah i know but in intrepid it was broke no matter what ver of wine you were using
[00:56] <sparta> when i try to do an aptitude update in ubuntu it gives the following error :http://paste.ubuntu.com/156220/
[00:56] <Pelle> how do I fix that wrice_? I want to move from home/pelle to usr/sbin
[00:56] <g4lv4tr0n> wow and bf2 would give access violation on both wine and cedega due to intrepid
[00:56] <sparta> can someone please check why?
[00:57] <lstarnes> sparta: are you still using 7.04?
[00:57] <wrice_> Pelle: Only root can paste into /usr/sbin.
[00:58] <^Phantom2^> it picks up s-video and composite but not tv
[00:58] <Pelle> wrice_: allright, how to do that?
[00:58] <sparta> yes
[00:58] <EoL{s}> Guess I'll go with four gigs. Thanks for the help, all.
[00:58] <pilif12p> Hi
[00:58] <efjc_> ypops or fetchyahoo, any rekomendations?
[00:59] <Idespnnr> anyone here familiar with boxee?
[00:59] <pilif12p> My task bar has dissapeared!
[00:59] <KyleK> can I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?
[00:59] <pilif12p> Help please!
[00:59] <sparta> lstarnes: yes 7.04
[01:00] <lstarnes> sparta: support for that release ended back in october
[01:00] <pilif12p> Please
[01:00] <pilif12p> I need help
[01:00] <pilif12p> My task bar is gone!
[01:00] <lstarnes> pilif12p: just be patient and someone will answer you when they are able to
[01:00] <pilif12p> the bar at the bottom
[01:00] <pilif12p> okay
[01:01] <lstarnes> sparta: you should probably upgrade to a newer version like 8.04 or 8.10
[01:01] <lstarnes> pilif12p: is the whole bottom panel gone?
[01:01] <pilif12p> yeah
[01:01] <gardar> pilif12p, right click the panel at top and choose add panel
[01:01] <wrice_> Pelle: 'sudo mv'
[01:01] <gartral1> so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...
[01:01] <pilif12p> okay
[01:01] <pilif12p> but nothing is on there
[01:02] <Pelle> wrice_: i use the filebrowser in the desktop
[01:02] <Flynsarmy> New ubuntu today people! Lock your doors, empty your calendars because its upgrading time
[01:02] <usser> gartral1, unplug vga and restart xorg
[01:02] <pilif12p> Please?
[01:02] <pilif12p> Nothing on the pannel
[01:02] <lsbrum> How do I apply a patch to an installed program? The vsftpd is a bug with utf8 encoding and I found a patch.
[01:02] <^Phantom2^> well
[01:02] <zetheroo> is Jaunty not released yet?
[01:03] <usser> lsbrum, you have to recompile from sources
[01:03] <pilif12p> just email me at admin@pilif12p(dot)com
[01:03] <wrice_> Pelle: You'll want to open gnome-terminal and run 'sudo mv /home/pelle/source /usr/sbin/destination' or something similar
[01:03] <^Phantom2^> here's what works:  the tvtuner program picks up the input modes of my tvtuner (s-video and composite) without audio, and no tv signal is picked up
[01:03] <^Phantom2^> i'm using tvtime, btw
[01:03] <gardar> I'm not sure what timezone ubuntu will be released
[01:03] <gardar> should be GMT
[01:03] <gardar> which is now
[01:03] <mecca_> ActionParsnip: Thanks for all of the suggestions, the problem ended up being that /etc/rc.d/S16ssh was being executed before dhclient had grabbed an IP address so it freaked out.  I moved it to S99ssh and everythings working fine
[01:03] <gartral1> usser: restart xorg is ctrl+alt+backspace, right?
[01:03] <usser> gartral1, yes
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> mecca_: sweet
[01:04] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow: sorry to bother you but when I reboot I see the kubuntu logo on it (blue)...want to see Ubuntu logo instead, what do I do ?
[01:04] <maximo> thanks
[01:04] <Pelle> wrice_: Okey, I'll try it
[01:04] <usser> !info startupmanager | maximo
[01:04] <lsbrum> usser, Can I apply the patch and then make a .deb? You know a good manual for creating .deb packages?
[01:05] <usser> lsbrum, checkinstall is a great quick way to create deb packages of uncomplicated programs
[01:05] <mdg> Whats a good, quick way to share files over local network?
[01:05] <usser> !info checkinstall
[01:05] <maximo> usser: how do i do it then?
[01:05] <usser> lsbrum, pretty much ./configure and make like you would with a source code and then instead of make install use checkinstall
[01:05] <simNIX> mdg; sh fs or nfs or samba ?
[01:05] <^Phantom2^> How can I get tvtime to pick up the audio from my tv tuner?
[01:06] <usser> maximo, install startupmanager its pretty self-explanatory
[01:06] <lsbrum> usser, ok..
[01:06] <KyleK> can I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?
[01:06] <maximo> ok
[01:06] <mdg> simNIX: What's the easiest to setup?
[01:06] <usser> ^Phantom2^, usually tuner is connected to the soundcard by an audio cable check that yours is.
[01:06] <simNIX> mdg; is it to share to windows boxes or only to *nix ?
[01:06] <mdg> simNIX: Only nix
[01:07] <usser> ^Phantom2^, then in tv time select audio source as "line in"
[01:07] <Sergiu> hi
[01:07] <Sergiu> when the ubuntu 9.04 will be realised?
[01:07] <Sergiu> )
[01:07] <usser> Sergiu, today
[01:07] <simNIX> nfs and ssh fs are both simple in setup - nfs = unencrypted / ssh fs is over ssh so encrypted - quick and simplest I think nfs
[01:07] <KyleK> mdg: nfs is quicker to setup but I've had more finicky problems
[01:07] <xerxes> in a few hours, Sergiu
[01:07] <usser> Sergiu, sorry tomorrow
[01:07] <^Phantom2^> mine is connected on the tvtuner physically
[01:07] <KyleK> but its tomorrow in my timezone! ;)
[01:08] <gardar> you can use nfs with ssh, and then it's encrypted
[01:08] <Sergiu> :D
[01:08] <^Phantom2^> it's part of the input cord for devices to plug into the tuner
[01:08] <xerxes> But you can take the daily snapshot also, Sergiu
[01:08] <psychic> musikgoat still in
[01:08] <psychic> ?
[01:08] <xerxes> !daily
[01:08] <simNIX> gardar, by default or by tunneling it ?
[01:08] <gardar> by tunneling it :)
[01:08] <Pelle> wrice_: ok it worked :) want to help me furher? I'm doing this: ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/
[01:08] <usser> ^Phantom2^, its ouput actually. where does the sound cable end up?
[01:08] <simNIX> worth considering ...
[01:08] <mdg> simNIX and KyleK - one box is running Mint 6 and has giver, the other box is mint 5 - no Giver
[01:08] <usser> ^Phantom2^, did the same setup work on windows?
[01:08] <^Phantom2^> it plugs into the dongle on the tuner
[01:09] <gardar> I use it when I mount outside of my local network
[01:09] <gardar> works just fine
[01:09] <^Phantom2^> usser: yes it did
[01:09] <maximo> usser:  it's say already installed the startupmananger....how do I choose the ubuntu one as a startup from rebooting?
[01:09] <maximo> thanks
[01:09] <usser> maximo, sudo startupmanager
[01:09] <maximo> did that
[01:09]  * mimor is away: zzz
[01:09] <usser> maximo, there's a list of boot splashes
[01:09] <maximo> where?
[01:10] <mimor> sorry for the away message
[01:10] <usser> ^Phantom2^, so the audio cable is connected to the soundcard?
[01:10] <reid> PROject-Emerald: whats up =P
[01:10] <usser> ^Phantom2^, mine was a straight, tvtuner audio out -> souncard line in
[01:10] <^Phantom2^> it's connected to the tv tuner
[01:10] <PROject-Emerald> Nm.
[01:10] <PROject-Emerald> How do you mount a .iso to make a bootable disk?
[01:10] <maximo> usser: sudo apt-get startupmanager ubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <usser> ^Phantom2^, so i just used line-in as a sound source in tvtime
[01:11] <reid> PROject-Emerald: you shouldn't need to mount it
[01:11] <usser> maximo, nope
[01:11] <Pelle> wrice_: now witch one is the perl-script, and how to I make a cache?
[01:11] <maximo> damn
[01:11] <reid> PROject-Emerald: just double click the iso file, and it should prompt you for what you want to do with it
[01:11] <reid> PROject-Emerald: one of those options are burn to CD/DVD
[01:11] <PROject-Emerald> I'm trying to put Kubuntu on a CD-R to make a bootdisk
[01:11] <usser> maximo, open startupmanager you'll see it
[01:11] <maximo> ok
[01:11] <PROject-Emerald> Will that make it bootable? I only have one CD left
[01:11] <Pelle> wrice_: and later, where is the "startup scripts"?
[01:12] <psychic> how do i save my modifications in terminal???
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: download the iso and open it with your cd writer, the iso is bootable
[01:12] <reid> PROject-Emerald: if it says "burn image to CD/DVD", then if the .iso is of a bootable CD, then it will be bootable
[01:13] <PROject-Emerald> Ok, I doubleclicked the Kubuntu-8.10 .iso and it brought up the Write to Disk menu. Should I burn or go into my programs and do?
[01:13] <reid> however, #ubuntu-server is asleep, can anyone here help me get VNC to connect to my server (running fluxbox)?
[01:13] <mrNotYou> !outyet
[01:13] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, if you want you could use wodim:   wodim -v dev=/dev/scd0 speed=0 kubuntu.iso
[01:13] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, oops  speed ought to me more like 8
[01:13] <wrice_> Pelle: I don't know much about DNS, but I'm pretty sure ddclient comes with example startup scripts.
[01:13] <PROject-Emerald> Haha
[01:14] <reid> PROject-Emerald: just do it through the write to disk menu
[01:14] <PROject-Emerald> ok
[01:14] <PROject-Emerald> Write Disc To:  CD-RW CRX216E or File Image?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: burn as slow as you can
[01:14] <Pelle> wrice_: okay thx for your help!
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: did you md5 check the iso?
[01:14] <reid> the release for jaunty has too been determined
[01:14] <wrice_> Pelle: yw
[01:14] <reid> PROject-Emerald: burn to CD writer
[01:14] <PROject-Emerald> No, I didn't. why?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: it checks what you have downloaded is correct
[01:15] <PROject-Emerald> How do I do that?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | PROject-Emerald
[01:15] <PROject-Emerald> thanks
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: md5 checking is ESSENTIAL
[01:15] <psychic> terminal help...
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> psychic: sup
[01:16] <psychic> ah thank u
[01:16] <psychic> how do i save modifications to a file in terminal
[01:17] <psychic> does it save if i just close it
[01:17] <psychic> ?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: what editor have you used?
[01:17] <psychic> terminal
[01:17] <tsopp> That's not and editor. :P
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: terminal is not an editor
[01:17] <psychic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/
[01:17] <psychic> i edited it in terminal
[01:17] <reid> psychic: nano, vim, vi, gedit?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: vi, nano are termial basd editors
[01:17] <psychic> nano
[01:17] <jdu> psychic, C^X
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> psychic: ok then the app is nano, not terminal
[01:17] <psychic> GNU nano
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> psychic: ctrl + x
[01:18] <PROject-Emerald> Ok, it says it's the Kubuntu ISO and it's all correct
[01:18] <psychic> oo ok
[01:18] <PROject-Emerald> Do I just doubleclick the ISO and burn it at the lowest speed?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> psychic: then press y to save changes and press enter
[01:18] <psychic> thats how that works
[01:18] <reid> PROject-Emerald: yeah it should be fine
[01:18] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, yes, as an image
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: you could rightclick it and select open with app
[01:19] <PROject-Emerald> jdu: So, my options for "Burn To:" are    -CD-RW CRX216E or file image
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: just open the file with the application
[01:20] <rhsanborn> Does ubuntu come with an app to scan for available networks by default?
[01:20] <PROject-Emerald> I did, the Write to Disc application
[01:20] <rhsanborn> available wireless networks
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: no, like gnomebaker, k3b, whatever
[01:20] <PROject-Emerald> would Brasero work?
[01:20] <totto-drummond> Where can we get the final version of Ubuntu 9.04
[01:21] <depok_hitori_jan> When will jaunty be released exactly? What time in UTC
[01:21] <tsopp> rhsanborn, yes it comes with network manager.
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: sure, choose that
[01:21] <Flannel> totto-drummond, depok_hitori_jan: We don't know.  Please join #ubuntu-release-party to wait for it.  There's no "set time"
[01:21] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, odd,  probably.   I usually use wodim.  The main thing is to burn it *as* an image at a a low speed
[01:21] <PROject-Emerald> Ok. Would 11x do or should I go as low as 1x?
[01:22] <tsopp> totto-drummond, it comes ou ton the 23rd, you can either get it from the website as an ISO or if you have an existing install use update-manager.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: slower the better
[01:22] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, probably 11x is fine though .  4x-8x is probably best
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> Ok. Burning.
[01:22] <jdu> good luck!
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> I did it @ 5
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> How long should this take?
[01:23] <psychic> now last night i ran out of hard drive space so i deleted 9 gigs of duplicates videos and music so i have some extra space but my screen size shrunk down to where theres a black border around the screen about an inch and a half like a frame and all of my desktop icons and files disappeared and.... my xfce menu is all wacked out
[01:23] <jdu> a while...
[01:23] <maximo> Jack_Sparrow:  got it thanks alot
[01:23] <psychic> can some one help me out?
[01:23] <sahak> hello
[01:23] <sahak> where can I download Ubuntu 9.04?
[01:23] <joan_0> hi ! I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?
[01:24] <joan_0> sahak, ubuntu.com, there are a banner who allows you to download
[01:24] <psychic> o and another thing b4 i lost my desktop icons the desktop switched from the oem xubuntu to the theme from ubuntu intrepid
[01:24] <psychic> ?????
[01:24] <PROject-Emerald> wait, is Jaunty out? Or are they still dling RC?
[01:24] <joan_0> RC
[01:24] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, tomorrow
[01:24] <PROject-Emerald> Ok
[01:24] <psychic> it switched by it self that is
[01:25] <psychic> anyone want to try  and tackle it
[01:25] <joan_0> Anyone knows what is initramfs prompt ?
[01:25] <sahak> joan_0: the banner leads to the release candidate. I want the final release.
[01:25] <psychic> my computer is pultergeisted...
[01:25] <biggerfisch> sahak: its not out yet
[01:25] <joan_0> sahak, you mut wait xD
[01:25] <thirdwheel_> hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through
[01:25] <sahak> i am very impatient
[01:25] <thirdwheel_> psychic, say what?
[01:25] <jdu> phychic, did you delete config files too?
[01:25] <psychic> did u read all that
[01:25] <psychic> ?
[01:26] <jdu> psychic, well you said that you deleted duplicate files... normally that would be unrelated to the problems you described...
[01:26] <psychic> no i delted all that stuff after the problems occured
[01:26] <xerxes> Which ubuntu version is the most secure?
[01:26] <joan_0> I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?
[01:27] <racecar56> bacj
[01:27] <racecar56> back
[01:27] <psychic> no its stuff i downloaded it was duplicates of vids ad music from youtube
[01:27] <psychic> i thought having more than 3.3 mb of hard drive space would fix it lol
[01:28] <jdu> joan_0, Your kernel wasn't loaded properly.
[01:28] <psychic> if some one could p.m. me i have to grab my laundry
[01:28] <joan_0> I tried with 2 USB, and I check the md5sum for the iso
[01:28] <simNIX> why not share answers also in room so other can maybe learn from it ?
[01:28] <digitaloktay> joan_0, join /j #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <jdu> psychic, try creating a new user account.
[01:28] <utferd> hi
[01:29] <utferd> is 9.10 released?
[01:29] <jdu> joan_0, is this from the iso?
[01:29] <jdu> utferd, tomorrow
[01:29] <utferd> jdo, time?
[01:29] <joan_0> jdu what is the diference between channels ?
[01:29] <utferd> now , its 03:29 am
[01:29] <utferd> :D
[01:29] <digitaloktay> but not 9.10 :D
[01:29] <jdu> utferd, not sure.
[01:29] <digitaloktay> 9.04
[01:30] <thirdwheel_> 10:29am here
[01:30] <utferd> thirdwheel_, australia?
[01:30] <digitaloktay> 2:30 here
[01:30] <thirdwheel_> yep
[01:30] <loquitus_of_bor1> anybody notice that the remote desktop viewer in Ubuntu (and perhaps in general) does not refresh properly? as in, when I am viewing a remote desktop, what I am seeing is very stale... I can tell because the clock is WAY behind
[01:30] <jdu> joan_0, #ubuntu+1 is over jaunty
[01:30] <utferd> digitaloktay, turkey?
[01:30] <joan_0> oks, sorry :D
[01:30] <loquitus_of_bor1> what time, ZULU, is Jaunty officially out?
[01:30] <thirdwheel_> hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through
[01:30] <digitaloktay> utferd, germany ;) turkey 3.30
[01:31] <utferd> digitaloktay, ok i get it, bende ordayım zaten
[01:31] <utferd> :)
[01:31] <digitaloktay> utferd, hosgeldin ;)
[01:31] <pio1> Ioquitus_of_bor1: my remote desktop doesn't refresh at all. I have to terminate then reconnect my session for it to refresh.
[01:31] <utferd> digitaloktay, eyw, ubuntu-tr ye bekleriz
[01:31] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: it is supposed to be synced so you can in fact interact even with the hose
[01:31] <loquitus_of_bor1> host
[01:31] <loquitus_of_bor1> but it is totally horribly behind
[01:32] <rhsanborn> It looks like network manager is starting by default. Perhaps this is an issue with the notification area, which is something I seem to remember. Is there any way to make sure it's present and activated/
[01:32] <rhsanborn> ?
[01:32] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: I know mate, I was just saying I'm running jaunty RC with all updates and mine does the same thing.
[01:32] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: It's very annoying. I use Remote desktop all the time.
[01:32] <joan_0> jdu is not ISO, is .img . I make the USB with unetbootin
[01:33] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: ok... I am on Jaunty too... same deal, although I am pretty sure it was doing this on Intrepid as well...
[01:34] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: I don't really understand what it is doing. I can see the mouse moving on the host, but the clock is exactly where it was when I connected!
[01:34] <finaltune> hello
[01:34] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: Yeah! that's exactly the same as mine. Obviously it's a bug. Maybe we should report it at launchpad?
[01:34] <finaltune> i can't read the ascii CAPTCHA in ubuntu QA...
[01:34] <finaltune> can you please help me?
[01:34] <racecar56> is it ok to use announced status messages here?
[01:35] <misho> hi guys
[01:35] <LjL> !away > racecar56    (racecar56, see the private message from ubottu) if you mean these, no
[01:35] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: yah we could... is this a Jaunty bug or is that application itself hosed? I am not sure where to draw the line between complaining to Ubuntu vs not doing so.
[01:35] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: it is weird. the mouse moves but does nothing of apparent intelligence.
[01:36] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: No, It's not the application. The application works in Linux Mint, which is based on intrepid.
[01:36] <loquitus_of_bor1> pio1: ok... so it indeed is the Jaunty client, you are suggesting...?
[01:37] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: Yes, I would think so.
[01:37] <jdu> joan_0, your problem is occurring before the kernel starts as ubuntu is trying to configuration, but fails.... There could be any number of reasons why
[01:38] <misho> has anyone upgraded to jaunty final release?
[01:38] <KoolKat33> i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?
[01:39] <finaltune> i really can't read the capture in Ubuntu QA
[01:39] <joan_0> jdo, I find in lp that is a bug of the RC, not my fault. Thanx a lot for the help. I must wait for final relesase :D Good night !
[01:39] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, jaunty will launch today rite?
[01:39] <^Phantom2^> '
[01:39] <LjL> !jaunty
[01:39] <jdu> joan_0, oh well, hope it will be fixed.
[01:40] <misho> well at my place it is april 23.  :)))))
[01:40] <unitedpotsmokers> LjL:: if jaunty launch, then this channel can talk about jaunty rite?
[01:40] <pio1> misho: me too, where are you at?
[01:40] <LjL> yes. but it's not out NOW. so please discuss it in #ubuntu-release-party.
[01:40] <KoolKat33> i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?
[01:41] <zvacet> unitedpotsmokers: when it is out yes
[01:41] <misho> piol: serbia uzice
[01:41] <misho> sorry pio1
[01:42] <misho> pio1 : where are u?
[01:42] <pio1> mish: Australia.
[01:42] <jdu> KoolKat33, what if you go to a virtual terminal?
[01:42] <misho> pio1: ohhh surfing
[01:42] <simNIX> a resolution your monitor cant do ?
[01:42] <Blaze_Boy> Problem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but modem is dead ? what i have to do to get it work ?
[01:42] <luminoso> on fiile galaries
[01:43] <luminoso> how do i move a file? i selec a file. i click on move, then what?
[01:43] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[01:43] <KoolKat33> i can ctrl+alt+f2 to get to prompt, and the monitor comes back fine
[01:43] <simNIX> KoolKat33, a resolution your monitor cant do ?
[01:43] <luminoso> sorry wrong channel
[01:44] <Blaze_Boy> Help
[01:44] <pio1> blaze_boy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=SettingUpModems
[01:44] <zvacet> luminoso : with mv command look at man mv
[01:44] <KoolKat33> how can i change the res from prompt?
[01:44] <jdu> luminoso, drag an drop
[01:45] <luminoso> wrong channel. this question was to #tikiwiki
[01:45] <luminoso> sorry
[01:45] <H3XiL3D> luminoso eheeh :)
[01:45] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[01:45] <simNIX> KoolKat33, I think by switch off gdm and then edit xorg.conf (after backing up current) ... and then startx to test
[01:46] <KoolKat33> can i pm you please?
[01:46] <simNIX> rather have conversation here - that ways others can help and learn also ...
[01:46] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, you can use apt-proxy on the server to share updates.  The cd could potentially be booted from the network and installed.
[01:47] <KoolKat33> when i edit xorg.conf i can't find the area for screen properties
[01:48] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; so through this apt-proxy...i can boot the cd from the network
[01:48] <PerryArmstrong> ??
[01:48] <simNIX> KoolKat33, try on root console; /etc/init.d/gdm stop (x off) -> then maybe this helps; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973&highlight=refresh+rate+howto  after modifiying try startx to load x and see if any errors
[01:48] <digitalpsyko> anyone have the dell e6400 with  the 9cell and 12 cell battery plate? i was wondering how i can get a more accurate battery reading? ubuntu ftw.
[01:48] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, no apt-proxy would only handle updates through the server.
[01:48] <KoolKat33> thank you..i'll let ya know what happens
[01:49] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, you want to use pxe booting for the install without cds, or preseeding
[01:49] <dft_> Is there a nautilus addon that will mount ISO's as loopback devices?
[01:49] <simNIX> k
[01:49] <maodun> i set up a functioning ssh server on an ubuntu box a while back and then left it alone. i recently tried to log in, and my connection continually timed out. i had someone hook up a mouse and keyboard to the server and, voila, it worked. i'm guessing the machine went into hibernation or some such since no one had touched it for a while and thus the ssh server went down. is that possible? and if so, how can i disable such sleep / hibernat
[01:49] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; you mean the one given here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer  i didnt understand what you said
[01:50] <simNIX> KoolKat33, specific pay atention to the bit; "Find your monitors manual (manufacturers website and Google are useful).
[01:50] <simNIX> Look for hozizontal sync and vertical refresh rates, also if bandwidth or maximum dot clock / pixel clock is mentioned, write it down."
[01:50] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, that should work, I think
[01:51] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, basically, once it set up on the server, the clients need to be set to boot off the network.
[01:51] <zvacet> good night and see you soon
[01:52] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; okk.. all the clients are connected by LAN
[01:52] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, apt-proxy sometimes failed here so I went for a local mirror with apt-mirror
[01:52] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, Another way is to use the cd in all the clients but to specify a .cfg file over the network.
[01:53] <simNIX> with apt-mirror you can also setup to grab updates
[01:53] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; this is getting a bit complicated
[01:53] <Sertse> what's the default wallpaper for jaunty? I expected more of a fuss in the forums, but I'm not seeing anything
[01:54] <Sertse> I know theme is still human
[01:54] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so will 160GB HDD and 1GB ram suffice for it?
[01:54] <optimo_praim> hello, how can I include the usernames in the logon window when ubuntu boots up?
[01:54] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, yes. The file would supply the answers to all the questions when installing so all you would have to would be to insert the cd and tell it where the file is.
[01:55] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I only mirror i386 and thats around 22Gb, the 1Gb ram is overkill but nice to have - I serve it out with vsftpd to my clients
[01:55] <StanLangers> Hey guys whats the situation with wubi with the new realese?
[01:55] <Pelle11> is Ubuntu using redhat style rc files and demon mode? and what does that mean?
[01:55] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, I haven't actually done exactly that before, but I have heard it works.
[01:55] <kitche> !upstart | Pelle11
[01:55]  * jdu has to go
[01:56] <simNIX> preseed works realy nice - that way I can fully automated install
[01:56] <StanLangers> Will wubi be available with the new Jaunty release?
[01:56] <genii> Gah, wubi
[01:56] <Pelle11> thx kitche!
[01:56] <evilaim> hey all
[01:56] <simNIX> StanLangers, isnt it already out with 8.10 ?
[01:56] <StanLangers> Yes its available for 8.10
[01:56] <evilaim> There has to be an easier way to change the splash screen.
[01:57] <casslab> hi
[01:57] <StanLangers> What im wondering is will it be able to install the new 9.04 Jaunty?
[01:57] <optimo_praim> esta de weba
[01:57] <Pici> !jaunty
[01:57] <tzanger> good evening; can anyone assist me in bringing up my wifi from the command line (it works fine if I boot to gui, but I'm having some trouble with the GUI that I'd like to debug through ssh)
[01:57] <casslab> like, can ubuntu help me correct my lack of penile erections? (in english: halp my peen not up; can lunix halp ?!)
[01:57] <tzanger> I'm not sure how to tell ubuntu to bring up eth1 just lke networkmanager does in the gui
[01:57] <evilaim> Does anyone know an easier way to change my splash screen?
[01:57] <StanLangers> ?
[01:57] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; somebody also suggested apt-cacher
[01:58] <evilaim> other then doing some weird linking and stuff?
[01:58] <evantandersen> casslab it can surf to porn sites...
[01:58] <casslab> evaluser: yes, PEE ON IT.
[01:58] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[01:58] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; what do you mean by overkill
[01:58] <detrate> s/casslab/troll/
[01:58] <LjL> casslab: please, take this channel seriously. thank you.
[01:58] <kitche> !usplash | evilaim have you tried this?
[01:59] <hadis> serious.
[01:59] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, with apt-cacher I had that clients borked on some files that were corupted while apt-cacher grabbed it - I then had to manualy remove it from pool and then it would be regrabbed
[01:59] <casslab> LjL: YA~1~```11 I'm taking this channel very SRSLY!1
[01:59] <LjL> !ops | casslab
[01:59] <StanLangers> So will wubi be able to install Jaunty? 9.04?
[02:00] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so aptproxy is better??
[02:00] <casslab> LjL: m
[02:00] <casslab> pm
[02:00]  * Sergiu_ г
[02:00] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, apt-mirror was best fit here
[02:00] <evilaim> wow, that's a lot of steps just for a splash screen
[02:01] <GillaGal> I have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?
[02:01] <simNIX> apt-proxy gave me simular coruption probs at times
[02:01] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; whats really the difference between apt-mirror, apt-proxy and apt-cacher
[02:01] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[02:02] <jonathan3> what is the difference between linux and a computer ?
[02:02] <StanLangers> Just wondering if wubi will be available to install Jaunty 9.04?
[02:02] <casslab> what exactly is a "troll"? I have LjL in my PM; begging me to stop
[02:02] <casslab> wtf
[02:02] <simNIX> apt-proxy and apt-cacher are mostly the same; if a cliet requests a file they grab it for thhat cleint and store it for use for next client wanting the same - apt-mirror is a way to download have a full mirror (with posiblity only i386 or any arch)
[02:02] <casslab> LjL: STOP private msging me, PLEASE!
[02:03] <kdask> lol
[02:03] <jonathan3> lol
[02:03] <jonathan3> hi everybody
[02:03] <Galadrielhim> I m from Mars. How can I store a radio station in rytmbox... The sistem is asking me for ttx/html decoder. Can you help me now?I am easy
[02:03] <Rayford> Hey.  Anyone use ESRI BusinessMAP 5?
[02:03] <jonathan3> me
[02:04] <mitchell> what timw is jaunty gonna be available???
[02:04] <Rayford> Jonathan3: you do?
[02:04] <Rayford> Do you own a copy of it?
[02:04] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, simpler put; proxy programs grab only that requsted (and in my experience sometimes wrongly) and apt-mirror just downloads everithing
[02:04] <jonathan3> sure
[02:04] <jonathan3> need it?
[02:04] <Rayford> ya
[02:04] <pio1> loquitus_of_bor1: are you still here?
[02:04] <zakk> could someone take a look at this please
[02:04] <zakk> http://pastebin.com/m44f38d45
[02:04] <mitchell> does anyone know?
[02:05] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[02:05] <mitchell> what time jaunty is available?
[02:05] <tgr> hi i was wondering if the upgrade that comes out tomorrow will be faster or lighter than 8.04 i am considering upgrading
[02:05] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so i think apt-mirror works better
[02:05] <simNIX> I agree
[02:05] <Galadrielhim> sakrabidelbadelbudel
[02:05] <josh977> Jaunty release tomorrow. Anyone throwing any wild parties?
[02:05] <pio1> tgr: how much RAM do you have.
[02:05] <Galadrielhim> Answer me please
[02:06] <jonathan3> 3go
[02:06] <kdask> what timezone josh977
[02:06] <josh977> Central Standard
[02:06] <simNIX> also in light you wanting to mirror security updates; what if you update once a day and one hour after that a big hole is plugged ... I tend to grab updates just from the source
[02:06] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?
[02:06] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i can't trust the community docs for this....they are a bit incomplete always....is there any material that has been written out of true experience
[02:07] <dft_> zakk: what command did you execute?
[02:07] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; for this apt-mirror
[02:07] <zakk> dft_: I was just upgrading my installed packages
[02:07] <dft_> kdask: do you have a 64bit install already?
[02:07] <zakk> dft_: and then if I install anything new now I get that message
[02:07] <kdask> dft_ yes
[02:07] <dft_> zakk: looks liek you're missing some files
[02:07] <zakk> dft_: yup
[02:07] <dft_> kdask: !schroot
[02:08] <dft_> kdask: !dchroot
[02:08] <dft_> !dchroot
[02:08] <dft_> !schroot
[02:08] <dft_> anyways
[02:08] <kdask> !fruit
[02:08] <Pici> !msgthebot
[02:08] <zakk> !chroot
[02:08] <dft_> kdask: lookup schroot
[02:08] <ccidral> does anyone know what time will ubuntu 9.04 be released?
[02:08] <ccidral> i'm anxious :)
[02:09] <kdask> thanks zakk
[02:09] <DanC> I've got an msi wind and I want to run the ubuntu remix on it; any suggestions about how to get there?
[02:09] <zakk> sure
[02:09] <Pici> !outyet | ccidral
[02:09] <thahauss_> Hi everyone, I'm new to ubuntu (running 9.04) an am trying to get 'appearance preferences > themes' to have a transparent effect to match my emerald theme, can someone please tell me how 2 do this?
[02:09] <Pelle11> how do I "enable automatic startup when booting"
[02:09] <ccidral> Pici thanks
[02:09] <wgrant_> thahauss_: You need #ubuntu+1.
[02:09] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I dont get -> this is all I have to do to get it working; http://pastebin.com/d93480ed
[02:09] <dft_> zakk: can you apt-get that particular kernel image first?
[02:09] <wgrant_> thahauss_: Ubuntu 9.04 is not yet released.
[02:09] <zakk> dft_: ok I'll try that
[02:10] <gartral2> how do i daemonize a running proccess?
[02:10] <zakk> gartral2: ctrl+z then bg
[02:10] <zakk> gartral2: but I think you still need the terminal open
[02:10] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, Ill consider writing a litle article on it soon
[02:10] <zakk> gartral2: so your best bet is to run everything under screen
[02:10] <FrozenFire> I've been getting pulsing latency issues under Ubuntu since I started using it about 3 years ago. Does this sound like the ext3 fsync issue? I especially notice it when watching a Flash video, such as on Youtube.
[02:10] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; ohh so you have a blog??
[02:11] <zakk> dft_: http://pastebin.com/m209e5088
[02:11] <philsf> how can I pin ppa.launchpad.net (instead of the repository, i.e., hardy, intrpid, jaunty...)
[02:11] <philsf> ?
[02:11] <gartral2> meh, i just needed it one-off, i opened pidgin through terminal cause it crashed the last time i tryed opening it, oh well, musta been a one-timer
[02:11]  * DanC re-discovers wubi...
[02:11] <KujiUn> Is there any way to remore desktop view someone using the same wireless network as me?
[02:12] <simNIX> I got a domain week ago orso - not found time yet to put nifo up - working on it ..
[02:12] <genii> !pin
[02:12] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?
[02:12] <dft_> zakk: nm, just saw a few lines down
[02:13] <philsf> genii, that doesn't answer my question, I read it
[02:13] <Juls4> Hi guys, I've got a problem. I updated my firefox icon (with a blue icon to match my theme) in /usr/lib/firefox_3.0.8/icon with a .png and two .xpm. However now all I get is a default no icon page looking thing. Any suggestions???
[02:13] <coskund> hi
[02:14] <Crash1hd> does ubuntu support dual moniters?
[02:14] <simNIX> x does; yes
[02:14] <kdask> could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?
[02:14] <dft_> kdask: no
[02:14] <^Blizzerand^> !welcome
[02:15] <philsf> kdask, what exactly do you want to do?
[02:15] <dft_> you need to setup a 32bit jail to run those apps
[02:15] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt get what you said..anyways this is my blog.. http://ossarchives.blogspot.com
[02:15] <kdask> i want to install adobe flash
[02:15] <kdask> philsf:
[02:15] <KoolKat33> simnix:: i have returned
[02:15] <KoolKat33> all is well
[02:15] <simNIX> KoolKat33, cool
[02:15] <dft_> kdask: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:15] <philsf> kdask, in amd64?
[02:15] <Crash1hd> simNIX: I have downloaded and burnt and running the cd right now how would I go about setting up dual windows?
[02:15] <kdask> yes philsf
[02:15] <webbles> need to upgrade from gutsy, can't apt-get update manager core, any ideas?
[02:15] <philsf> kdask, what  ubuntu release?
[02:15] <kdask> 8.10
[02:16] <GillaGal> I have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?
[02:16] <tgr> i have 2 gb ram
[02:16] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I tried to say; no I dont have a blog yet, but I did register a domain where I am goin to put info up on soon
[02:16] <webbles> gilla yes
[02:16] <wgrant_> dft_: That's four years old...
[02:16] <dft_> zakk: does that kernel image even exist under /boot?
[02:16] <philsf> webbles, there is an archive for EOL releases, google for that
[02:16] <genii> philsf: See sections 3.8 through 3.10 of http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[02:16] <webbles> thanks
[02:16] <dft_> wgrant_: first howto I googled
[02:16] <GillaGal> webbles well then what is the advantage of 64 bit?
[02:16] <KoolKat33> i will say it was kind of a pain, i had to unload the driver, reinstall, unload gnome, THEN edit config, loaded up Gnome and it works!
[02:16] <KoolKat33> thank you for the link
[02:16] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; you are welcome to contribute in my blog depending on your interest
[02:17] <kdask> philsf: 8,10
[02:17] <simNIX> gladely shared KoolKat33 it some time back also realy helped me
[02:17] <webbles> 64 bit is needed to take advantage of memory greater than 4 gigs
[02:17] <webbles> and also the ability to use 64 bit registers
[02:17] <GillaGal> webbles Ok so for a desktop/media box it will be ok at 32bit?
[02:18] <tgr> x
[02:18] <kdask> webbles: whats 64 bit registers?
[02:18] <webbles> you will be fine Gilla
[02:18] <dft_> kdask: here's an uptodate howto
[02:18] <dft_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733595
[02:18] <philsf> kdask, there's an amd64 version of adobe flash
[02:18] <genii> philsf: pinning by origin is likely what you want to do
[02:18] <philsf> !partner | kdask
[02:18] <kdask> wait i dont have 4 GB of ram
[02:18] <wgrant_> dft_: That's still out of date.
[02:18] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, it may take ma a while but once done I will be behind simnix.info
[02:19] <philsf> genii, thanks, but I think that also doesn't help, or I misunderstood... I don't want to pin the package version, since this way I might 1) loose ability to upgrade 2) must do it per package, aiui
[02:19] <simNIX> Ill have a look at yours
[02:19] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk
[02:19] <kdask> whats 64 bit registers?
[02:19] <dft_> wgrant_: well then what is the bleading edge way?
[02:19] <philsf> genii, also, AIUI, the origin is the release, no?
[02:19] <wgrant_> kdask: If you don't already know, you don't need to.
[02:19] <meoblast001> by any chance is it ok to get autotools support in here? or is that offtopic?
[02:19]  * dft_ can't spell tonight
[02:19] <genii> philsf: origin is the repo
[02:19] <wgrant_> dft_: Flash doesn't need an i386 chroot. Hasn't for a couple of years.
[02:19] <wolter> is there anyway I can upgrade to the ubuntu release candidate?
[02:19] <simNIX> only 10 euro for 1 year a domain so I ditch dyndns - )
[02:19] <kdask> so i dont need 64 bit?
[02:19] <wgrant_> dft_: Firefox will prompt to install it, even on amd64.
[02:19] <JDShewey> So... I want to set up a dual head setup. I want KDE on one monitor, and a virtualbox VM on the other, but I want to use compiz and keep the ability to use the edge flip. I can't to stack the monitors, so I would like to have some sort of key combination to switch which monitor the mouse/keyboard is bound to. Is this possible?
[02:19] <dft_> wgrant_: I know, I didn't realize that was his issue, nm then
[02:20] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; just a doubt; can my desktop system make updations from the server at college with this apt-mirror
[02:20] <Pelle112> How do I get ddclient to start at every boot?
[02:20] <dft_> wgrant_: I needed it for the nessus gui
[02:20] <wolter> Pelle112, add it to System > Preferences > Sessions
[02:20] <philsf> genii, yes, I confused it with a(archive). what's the origin for ppas?
[02:20] <Pelle112> thx wolter
[02:20] <genii> philsf: The origin is the repository URL
[02:21] <kdask> wgrant_: i ask because i want to know if i need 64 bit or not
[02:21] <andr3s> one question: if i install xfce desktop extension with sudo in my ubuntu os, i changed the os to xubuntu?
[02:21] <philsf> genii, thanks, I think this is what I missed
[02:21] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, your home desktop has to connect over the internet to college ftp server serving out what apt-mirror sownloaded or are you on campus ?
[02:21] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, or http server
[02:21] <genii> philsf: np
[02:22] <Pelle112> wolter, btw is that the same as a deamon?
[02:22] <powtrix> hi. can I install java on ubuntu 8.10 64-bits ?
[02:22] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt set the server up still at campus... i need to collect all information and manuals and then start the work
[02:22] <h8red> heya
[02:22] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, clear; but I meen once setup ...
[02:22] <andrew_> connect
[02:22] <kdask> whats 64 bit registers anyone?
[02:23] <philsf> kdask, google
[02:23] <JDShewey> 64 bit registers are the width of variables in a 64 bit processor
[02:23] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I would keep the mirror localy since if its Intrnet facing biger change of it getting cacked ..
[02:23] <mutilator> how do ya change file association defualts
[02:23] <JDShewey> 32 bit processors have 32 bit registers
[02:23] <East_Coast_Girl> good evening folks :)
[02:24] <simNIX> ...and all clients install from it ...
[02:24] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt understand what you said atall
[02:24] <powtrix> i tried to link libnpjp2 but the java does not work on firefox3.
[02:24] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt understand what you said *at all
[02:24] <wgrant_> mutilator: To change the application with which a file type opens, you can right-click on such a file and find the last tab.
[02:24] <kdask> oh so if i have a processor that SUPPORTS 64 bit do i need to have a 64 bit OS ?
[02:24] <GillaGal> kdask Nope.
[02:24] <kdask> GillaGal: does it help?
[02:24] <JDShewey> A 64 bit processor can run a 32 bit OS, but you are using part of your overall capabilty.
[02:25] <JDShewey> You will get better performance out of a 64 bit OS.
[02:25] <tgr> so was curious is 9.04 more heavy than 8.04? on resources
[02:25] <francesco_> italian???
[02:25] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; can you make it clear
[02:25] <JDShewey> But sometimes you have compatability issues.
[02:25] <eseven73> !it | francesco_
[02:25] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, you asked can my dektop update from campus; I asked is your home on campus or do you from home needto go over the Internet to connect ot it ..
[02:25] <philsf> JDShewey, arguably better performance...
[02:25] <kdask> JDShewey: even if i have less than 4 GB ram?
[02:25] <mutilator> ah i see
[02:25] <mutilator> i dont know why i didnt try to do that before
[02:25] <mutilator> :P
[02:25] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; need to connect through the internet
[02:25] <JDShewey> kdask: yes, even if
[02:26] <GillaGal> JDShewey performance on what?
[02:26] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, is posible; but only if you make it so the Internet can connect to it - then I sugested; if you make it so you can connect over the Internet to it others can also ...
[02:27] <kdask> where's the 64 bit linux version of flash player anyone? ive searched like crazy
[02:27] <simNIX> ... best use at home a normal mirror or have also one apt-mirror download at home ...
[02:27] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; the server will have internet connection and i'll put it on 24 hrs. if necessary...
[02:28] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; should the server be running all the time then??
[02:28] <CFNinja> Is there no way for me to log in the terminal so that I have root without having to type sudo before every single command?
[02:28] <Pelle112> how do I check witch deamons are running?
[02:28] <wgrant_> kdask: Just go to a page that uses Flash, and Firefox will ask you if you want to install it.
[02:28] <philsf> kdask, partner repository
[02:28] <kdask> philsf: what is that?
[02:28] <philsf> !partner | kdask
[02:28] <wgrant_> !rootshell | CFNinja
[02:29] <wgrant_> philsf: That's not the right factoid.
[02:29] <kdask> thanks
[02:29] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, Internet connection to grab new files is no problem; the risk comes if you make it so someone on the Internet can connect to it - that would open up a can of worms, that you dont have if at home you use another server to update / install from
[02:29] <CFNinja> thx
[02:29] <philsf> wgrant_, you're right
[02:29] <philsf> kdask, wait a sec
[02:29] <^Phantom2^> Hey guys, i'm going to rant a little bit here (it's relevant to the chat)
[02:30] <zetheroo> I thought Ubuntu 9.04 would be released by now ..
[02:30] <space_cadet> zetheroo, tomarrow
[02:30] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, if you have a local dns at home you could point your desktop to a name that resolves to ubuntu mirror online, and at work have that name resolve to ip box with apt-mirror
[02:30] <LjL> ^Phantom2^: it's most likely not, use #ubuntu-offtopic for any non-support topic (or for certain specific topics, you might be directed to other channels)
[02:30] <zetheroo> space_cadet: whose tomorrow?
[02:30] <kdask> yes philsf?
[02:30] <space_cadet> zetheroo, jaunty
[02:30] <jtholmes> zetheroo, i doubt that the RC will change between now and tomorrows official release announcement
[02:31] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i just wanted all the students of the campus have the ability to update from their homes through the internet..
[02:31] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, why ?
[02:31] <space_cadet> update what?
[02:31] <simNIX> (sine its slower then a mirror close to them)
[02:31] <simNIX> but its posible if a requiremnet
[02:31] <simNIX> vsftpd is quite save
[02:32] <^Phantom2^> omg ubuntu is so awesome!!!  i can't believe how easy it is to use!!  It is so much nicer than window$, and HOLY MACRO it is so good with laptop batteries!  Thank you so much for your support guys!!!
[02:32] <jelly-bean> what is the best app for comparing files in linux? (e.g. gui; developer tool; unified diff; with basic functions to resolve conflicts)
[02:32] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; we have many ubuntu users locally and they complain of taking time for updating packages from the other severs which are not available locally
[02:32] <philsf> kdask, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding Canonical Partner Repositories
[02:33] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; but what i am worried now is network traffic and you also mentioned there will be some problem if anyone else is updating..whats the problem..."you mentioned can of worms"
[02:33] <Frijolie> anyone familiar with claws-mail? I cannot send IMAP emails with claws + GMail
[02:33] <^Phantom2^> oh, and my other nick doesn't need to be here anymore, because it's just idling
[02:34] <zetheroo> jtholmes: do you know what version of alsa will be in the final?
[02:34] <Pelle112> can I check if ddclient is running?
[02:34] <jtholmes> zetheroo, no I dont
[02:34] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong - then apt-mirror dowlnoad of all files 2x a day maybe would be perfect on campus - just share out what it downloads over http or ftp and point every client to use this ftp/http
[02:35] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; are there any manuals upon this...??
[02:35] <wrice_> Pelle112: 'ps aux | grep ddclient'
[02:35] <LjL> jelly-bean, i've used kompare sometimes, i didn't mind it, but i have no idea whether it has the features you mentioned honestly.
[02:35] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, you still got pastebin I gave you with how to config it ?
[02:35] <simNIX> thats all you need
[02:36] <simNIX> + setup a vsftpd of http server
[02:36] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; yes i do have
[02:36] <Frijolie> it's complaining that a folder is missing "sent"
[02:36] <Frijolie> although it's there
[02:36] <simNIX> loose the lines I have for Debian
[02:36] <simNIX> install apt-mirror
[02:36] <jelly-bean> LjL: compare is good. thnx :)
[02:36] <lighttitan> My external Harddrive won't let me put anything on it. I have no permissions on it. How do I set permissions for having write permissions on my harddrive? There permissions tab was not available.
[02:37] <simNIX> modify in config directory you want it tot download
[02:37] <simNIX> and do apt-mirror
[02:37] <kdask> how do i open  a .so file?
[02:37] <Pelle112> thx  wrice_ :)
[02:37] <simNIX> it wil dowlnoad about 22Gb
[02:37] <zakk> kdask: .so files are like dlls
[02:37] <zakk> kdask: you dlopen them in code
[02:37] <^Phantom^> Now, I want to do more with linux than just chat.  My question now is:  what is the recommended bittorrent client for ubuntu?  I'm looking to use one that is similar to BitTorrent on windoze, but I prefer one that is simple to use, but not so simple a 2-year old can use it.  Any suggestions?
[02:37] <kdask> zakk thats what i got when i searched for the flash plugin
[02:37] <Frijolie> ^Phantom^, I use deluge-torrent
[02:38] <kdask> 64 bit linux
[02:38] <Frijolie> ^Phantom^, or just "deluge"
[02:38] <zakk> ^Phantom^: http://www.transmissionbt.com/
[02:38] <^Phantom^> Frijolie: thank you
[02:38] <simNIX> ^Phantom^, the one that fits :o)
[02:38] <^Phantom^> i'll look into it :D
[02:38] <simNIX> Tribler is maybe worth a look
[02:38] <Kou> anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu?
[02:38] <simNIX> its founded by eu
[02:38] <simNIX> funded
[02:38] <lighttitan> ^Phantom^, I use Transmission Bittorrent Client
[02:39] <^Phantom^> I plan on -
[02:39] <^Phantom^> oh?
[02:39] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; Tribler??
[02:39] <simNIX> was for ^Phantom^  PerryArmstrong
[02:39] <PerryArmstrong> okk
[02:39] <simNIX> a torrent cleint
[02:39] <lighttitan> Haven't tried the one Frijolie mentioned, you can look into them both and decide which you like better.
[02:39] <Kou> anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@
[02:39] <Frijolie> nobody knows about GMail and claws-mail?
[02:40] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the clients??
[02:40] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the server??
[02:40] <Frijolie> deluge is a great light-weight torrent client
[02:40] <simNIX> no install needed on lcients
[02:40] <simNIX> no install needed on lcients
[02:40] <Frijolie> and they're always updating it
[02:40] <lighttitan> I think I will try it out Frijolie
[02:40] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk...
[02:40] <simNIX> only on server that wil serve up the files to the clients
[02:40] <philsf> genii, it appears the ppa version of a package doesn't have an Origin field to compare with, according to apt-cache show
[02:41] <philsf> genii, the package in question is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/156257/
[02:41] <^Phantom^> i have only booted back into windows once since installing ubuntu 8.10, and that was just to make sure it still booted, lol (if that means anything)
[02:41] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so no need of apt-mirror on server its only for clients??
[02:42] <MaT-dg> Frijolie: what about GMail and claws-mail?
[02:42] <thewrath> does anyone know where i can just get the wubi.exe
[02:42] <thewrath> for jaunty
[02:42] <thewrath> bc the RC for jaunty does not have it
[02:42] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, on campus make it for instance so the ubuntu.campus.com (replace domain) point to ip box runnig vsftpd (shares out what apt-mirror on same box grabs) in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:42] <^Phantom^> oh oh, i should have asked this in the first place:  does utorrent make an ubuntu compatible version?
[02:43] <lighttitan> ^Phantom^ Welcome to Linux, it is a great OS. I have never been unable to get help on an issue if I come here. So just drop in here and the Pros(not me) will help you out!
[02:43] <genii> philsf: You use some lines like:  Package: *       and: Pin: origin www.debian-multimedia.org
[02:43] <^Phantom^> lighttitan: it's not great... it's AWESOME!!!
[02:43] <genii> philsf: But the repo name of ppa
[02:43] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set ubuntu.campus.com
[02:43] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set tp://ubuntu.campus.com
[02:43] <Kou> anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@
[02:43] <simNIX> *ftp://ubuntu.campus.com
[02:43] <lighttitan> ^Phantom^ Yes it is!
[02:43] <thahauss> Hi all, I'm new to linux and trying to make my windows transparent, the areas affected when you change 'appearance preferences > themes'.  any help greatly appreciated
[02:45] <Frijolie> MaT-dg: I cannot send email via claws-mail (recently) it's complaining that it cannot be queued
[02:45] <^Phantom^> um
[02:46] <lighttitan> How do I change the permissions on my HDD? I can't put anything on it.
[02:46] <^Phantom^> My media player window just went dim and grey, and I can't do anything in it...no message came up either.  What can I do to get it back?
[02:46] <Kou> nvm, fixed
[02:46] <philsf> genii, it worked, thanks. But I think the documentation is somewhat missing in this detail
[02:46] <Ghostmedic> Odd question... I am the only user, but now guarddog won't work because I am not the supervisor... how do I become the supervisor on my own machine?
[02:46] <arkanabar> lighttitan, you need to google chmod
[02:46] <genii> philsf: Yes, sadly true
[02:47] <doleyb> thahauss: maybe you should search about compiz
[02:47] <lighttitan> arkanabar thanks
[02:47] <^Phantom^> Oops, I forcequitted it...
[02:47] <Burntresistor> i just dual booted my other hard drive and linux programs wont install , i used the installation process to resize the partition and dint size it in advance  could it be that
[02:47]  * Ciros mutters at missing runtime
[02:48] <doleyb> Ghostmedic: sudo
[02:48] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; you have given me lots of info thanks...now i have to check on various things like setting up ftp..etc...
[02:48] <Ghostmedic> Dolevb: Sudo?
[02:48] <Jak_o_Shadows> i got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub
[02:48] <RedMercury> Hi, what time on the 23rd will jaunty be released?
[02:48] <Jak_o_Shadows>  i installed everything to an external usb hdd
[02:50] <perturbed> Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help .
[02:50] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, gladely helped - vsftpd is an option or maybe lightttpd since ftp is a bit harder to let through risticted firewall - this is only an consideration if clients also need to be able to use same mirror at home over the Internet
[02:50] <perturbed> Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....................
[02:51] <Ghostmedic> what does Sudo mean? I'm new to linux.
[02:51] <Jak_o_Shadows> sudo is run as superuser, or root
[02:51] <nate[oz]> hey guys, what's the best subversion client out there for ubuntu?
[02:51] <perturbed> sudo gives your current user administrative powers
[02:51] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: sudo gives the command domain over you entire file system, whereas usually, if you run a command, it's restricted to your home folder
[02:51] <kitche> !best | nate[oz]
[02:51] <kitche> nate[oz]: umm subversion of course
[02:51] <perturbed> Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....
[02:51] <etzerd> Hello all
[02:51] <nate[oz]> :/
[02:52] <etzerd> tomorrow will be the big day.
[02:52] <Ghostmedic> How? The program just informs me that I can't do much when I start it up because I'm not the supervisor.. unlike other programs it does not ask for a password or anything.
[02:52] <etzerd> any news about the 9.04?
[02:52] <thebackwash> perturbed: please ask a little less frequently.  if anyone knows they WILL answer.
[02:52] <perturbed> sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:52] <perturbed> hehe
[02:52] <thebackwash> perturbed: no problem :)
[02:52] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server
[02:52] <perturbed> but its an emergency :(
[02:52] <SeViLLa> etzerd: i dont know what does the website say
[02:53] <hsinam> etzerd: hasnt come yet. today is the announced date though. keep checking releases.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <etzerd> I believe the said tomorrow they will release it to the public
[02:53] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: not every user can use sudo.  it is intentionally disabled for certain users.  i'm not sure of the easiest way to enable sudo on your current account.
[02:54] <ohohh9> jo
[02:54] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: this is intended to protect your computer from unwanted hacking attempts.
[02:54] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: it is possible to add your account to the list of users who can sudo, but the only way I know of is to edit a certain text file
[02:54] <Ghostmedic> Okay... I'll do a websearch for how to enable sudu
[02:55] <RedMercury> anyone? :|
[02:55] <Ghostmedic> Thank you all for your help.
[02:55] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: if you have to run a command as root temporarily, you may type 'su'
[02:55] <ampzqlox> running 9.04  uninstalled vinagre and vino installed tightvncserver - what can I put into rc.local? I tried su -c tightvncserver. I get a just an blank grid and an X cursor on my screen when I remote into it over the net
[02:55] <wgrant_> thebackwash, Ghostmedic: You want 'sudo', not 'su'.
[02:55] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; there??
[02:55] <Guest64560> hey i'm trying to make a video showing many programs opened up...is there a way to batch execute every program I have?
[02:55] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: however, due to the power of the root account, it is recommended to use this very sparingly
[02:55] <^Phantom^> Okay, I can't seem to find this at all.  I've looked through all of the settings on X-Chat.  How can I change the color used for highlighting nicks that mention my name in the chat?  The yellow color is too bright for me.
[02:56] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: you may have to log in as root via su in order to add your current user to the /etc/sudoers file
[02:56] <thebackwash> Ghostmedic: after that it should be sudo all the way
[02:57] <hsinam> Ghostmedic: system > administration > user and groups. select user properties, check administer the sytem option
[02:57] <thebackwash> hsinam: thank you!
[02:57] <thebackwash> hsinam: i couldn't remember how to do that through the gui
[02:57] <zloog> I AM HAM
[02:57] <Ububegin> isnt ubuntu 9, supposed to release today.
[02:57] <Jak_o_Shadows> i got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub. i'm installing it all onto an external usb hdd
[02:58] <thebackwash> Guest64612: Do you want a couple of seconds in between each launch to show them off, or do you want to launch them all at once?
[02:58] <hsinam> thebackwash: i didnt know either, but ubuntu pocket guide pdf has given many gui methods for simple things
[02:58] <n8tuser> Jak_o_Shadows -> perhaps your mobo does not support boooting off of usb
[02:58] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, am now ...
[02:58] <MaT-dg> Ububegin: yes, today is still yesterday in other timezones and today is 24hours long ;)
[02:58] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server
[02:58] <kitche> Ububegin: umm it's not even the 23rd yet for when Ubuntu is suppose to be released
[02:59] <thedust> hello, i am attempting to dual boot ubuntu with vista currently installed, i was wondering how i could change my bios settings so that the computer boots from the cd
[02:59] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, for clients on campus only the speed to the vsftpd oor lighttpd counts
[02:59] <Jak_o_Shadows> did u get that message?
[02:59] <thedust> does anyone here know how to change the bios settings?
[02:59] <simNIX> apt-mirror can be ran to update the files when everybody is home / Inet usage is at lightest
[02:59] <OsamaK> Hello. I'm going to format my Ubuntu partition today to install Ubuntu 9.04 (I just want a new starting). What's the best: to use EXT3 or EXT4?
[02:59] <Ububegin> MaT-dg: Ah... I forgot the americans are still stuck on the 22nd..... :) ... so any ideas how many more hours to go
[03:00] <n8tuser> Jak_o_Shadows -> you have an existing linux installed or this is the first one?
[03:00] <studentz> thedust: did you try wibi install directly form windows
[03:00] <hsinam> Ububegin: 2 more hours
[03:00] <cfowler> It is 10pm on Eastern Coast of US
[03:00] <PhotoJim> the Canadians are still suck on the 22nd too (and prefer not to be called Americans)
[03:00] <Jak_o_Shadows> first one really. it doesn't let me boot when i install. so effectively i don't have linux installed
[03:00] <thebackwash> Guest64612: You may make a text file containing the full path to all the executables (e.g. /usr/bin/firefox), with a space and a single & after each one.  separate each program by a return.  add 'sleep 5' for 5 seconds' pause after launching each one.
[03:00] <PhotoJim> 11:30 east coast Canada, 7:00 west coast
[03:00] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; but i have to consider both...clients connected to the server and machines on the internet (home)
[03:00] <thedust> no i will try that thank you,
[03:01] <Ububegin> hsinam: Ok dokie...  Anyone want to direct me to a tutorial I can understand? I found one on google, but I can't understand it.
[03:01] <studentz> the dust: usually when you restart your computer you should press del and you enter to the BIOS
[03:01] <thebackwash> Guest64612: sorry maybe i can post a sample way to do this on pastebin.  it's hard to explain, but easy to understand once you see it.
[03:01] <Jak_o_Shadows> or F2 or something
[03:01] <Jak_o_Shadows> shoudl com eup on screen
[03:02] <^Phantom^> LOL
[03:02] <Ububegin> lighttitan: http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html
[03:02] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, then a script at clients that checks somehow if its at campus or at home and set at home to use normal online mirror instead of the campus one will save the campus a load of outbound bandwidth
[03:02] <lighttitan> Ubunbegin, thank you
[03:02] <^Phantom^> I unmounted my internal hard drive and a message at the bottom of the screen came up saying "this device is now safe to remove"
[03:02] <lighttitan> Ububegin, thanks
[03:02] <andrewkk> X11 is quitting immediately after it starts, but the Xorg log reports no errors. Where should I look to try to solve this?
[03:02] <Ububegin> lighttitan: One thanks is sufficient dude..... :D
[03:03] <kitche> andrewkk: most likely not an Xorg issue mroe of a gdm/gnome issue
[03:03] <picaboo> hi guys!  :)
[03:03] <andrewkk> kitche: thanks, I'll check around there.
[03:03] <h8red> hey.  are there any pdf editors for linux other than pdf edit?  for whatever reason, the menu uptions in pdfedit are not visible
[03:03] <lighttitan> Ububegin, I mispelled your name the first time, so I said it again in case you missed it. Didn't want to appear ungrateful.
[03:04] <h8red> probably due to an nvidia issue
[03:04] <tgr> has anyone here successfully gotten a refund for microsoft vista?
[03:04] <Pici> !ot
[03:04] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; yes but maybe if i limit it to only our campus students to update from their homes and not anyone else...it might help...but the question is how to do this??
[03:04] <studentz> ^Phanton: there is a process running, System --> Admin -->System Monitor you will find which process it is
[03:04] <Ububegin> tgr: proceed to #windows
[03:04] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; or maybe i have to request the department head to increase the speed
[03:05] <thebackwash> Guest64612: if you're still here, visit here: pastebin.com/m16d1a98e
[03:05] <tgr> Ububegin: who in #windows would request a refund for vista?
[03:05] <tgr> just curious
[03:05] <rocky_> hello
[03:05] <tgr> they are windows users
[03:05] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I gotta doze off - shutting down for the night ... a bash script at boot could copy a diferent apt.sources depending on where it -is - for how that I dont have recepy ready for ..
[03:05] <lighttitan> Ububegin, WOot, it worked! I now have access to my harddrives :)
[03:05] <LjL> !ot | tgr
[03:06] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; thanks lots of help i got from you
[03:06] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, with this puzzled out clients not use presious bandwidt ANd the cleints get best speed
[03:06] <Guest12594> anyone here able to help me with a printing setup problem??
[03:06] <^Phantom^> okay
[03:06] <Ububegin> lighttitan: get that site bookmarked... it can help you with all types of linux commands..
[03:06] <simNIX> I hope the puzzle peices make a stable beasty :o)
[03:07] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; i didnt get what you said..can you make it clear
[03:07] <h8red> I guess no other pdf editors for linux?  :(
[03:07] <stealth-> is there any way to get back a file i deleted from the command line (opps!)?
[03:07] <h8red> damn
[03:07] <PerryArmstrong> tgr; refund??
[03:07] <Caskey100> For some reason Ubuntu won't print on my local Lexmark printer even though it is installed
[03:07] <thebackwash> stealth-: try rm -W
[03:07] <Ububegin> So does Ubuntu 9 solve the wireless/wired connectivity issue...
[03:07] <thebackwash> stealth-: it says it will *try* to recover the file
[03:07] <Caskey100> keeps saying it may be dissconected
[03:08] <studentz> tgr: I know there was a case in the court in Europe and they gain so they refund something like $80
[03:08] <thebackwash> stealth-: if you can't get it back, take your computer to somewhere that offers data recovery services
[03:08] <^Phantom^> here's a problem i'm having with wine:  whenever i connect to a server with mirc (6.21) the program appears to close itself out.  What might be causing this and what can I do to get around it?
[03:08] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, IF you figure out howto get clients at boot to have a different apt.sources depending if at campus or not will make clients not use presious bandwidt of campus when at home ANd that wil make that  clients get best speed
[03:08] <stealth-> thebackwash: there is no -W arguement in the rm command, according to bash and man
[03:09] <ke_> hello, I am new to linux, what is the best way to add a directory to the $PATH variable ? wish to add ~/bin
[03:09] <thebackwash> stealth-: oh, ok.  i'm not on linux right now.  sorry then.
[03:09] <Stanlin> help
[03:09] <Stanlin> Hibernation crash my computer, HELP!!!
[03:09] <stealth-> thebackwash: its all good, thanks for trying
[03:09] <stealth-> any one else know a way to get data back after its been deleted via the CLI?
[03:10] <Ububegin> !ubuntu9.05
[03:10] <Ububegin> !ubuntu 9.05
[03:10] <simNIX> stealth-, backups are best fix - else very dificult
[03:10] <simNIX> gotta go - latersssssssssss
[03:10] <KingKimi> !jaunty > ububegin
[03:10] <francis> Stanlin: www.apple.com/getamac
[03:10] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; the clients at home are the people who are going to work on Ubuntu development... so its not all of the students..its only those who are on the craze for Ubuntu who are a handful
[03:10] <stealth-> simNIX: it was from my backups :(
[03:10] <thebackwash> ke_: open up (or create) /home/username/.bashrc, and type export PATH='$PATH:/home/username/bin'
[03:10] <Webu> !jaunty > Webu
[03:11] <^Phantom^> it's really annoying, because it always worked in my virtual ubuntu maching
[03:11] <^Phantom^> machine*
[03:11] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; but then i want to moderate who can update??
[03:11] <thebackwash> ke_: save and exit
[03:11] <Matr|X> i installed server lamp but i want to unstall evry thing agine
[03:11] <b14ck> hey, i installed amarok on ubuntu 9.04, but it wont play like 90% of my music, worked fine on gentoo
[03:11] <b14ck> it seems like it doesnt want to play my mp3 v0 files
[03:11] <Pici> !jaunty > b14ck
[03:11] <b14ck> any idea why?
[03:12] <stealth-> Webu: for future reference, you can message ubottu via the "/msg ubottu !factiod" rather than writing in the channel
[03:12] <Stanlin> francis: but im heterosexual i cant use that
[03:12] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, if only a few use it from home dont open it up to the Internet - let them at home use a normal mirror -> much saver
[03:12] <francis> Stanlin: u funnies
[03:12] <eseven73> is the apache2 config httpd.conf, sites-available, or sites-enabled?
[03:12] <francis> actually no u not funnies
[03:12] <simNIX> and faser for them
[03:12] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk
[03:12] <Webu> stealth-, oh yes - thank you for poiniting me out.
[03:13]  * coskund is away (Gule Gule (Cevrim Disi) | Bye Bye (Offline))
[03:13] <stealth-> Webu: np, lol, I was just messaging it and noticed you did it to :P
[03:13] <simNIX> night
[03:13] <simNIX> mornig already even - )
[03:13] <eseven73> !away > CoskunD
[03:13] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; something interesting http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror
[03:13] <Stanlin> francis: well my laptop has quad core, 8gb ram, 1080p. Mac only delivers underdeveloped crap overhyped
[03:13] <jimmy51_home> hello, i have an hp scanjet 3970.  i run kubuntu 8.10 with GDM apps.  i can't seem the scanning apps to detect my scanner, even though it shows up in "lsusb".  what do i need to do?
[03:13] <studentz> ^Phantom^ I haven't use mirc, but there are others alternatives open source, sorry I cannot help you :(
[03:13] <OsamaK> called some one answer my ext3/ext4 question above?
[03:13] <KingKimi> i isntalled ubuntu by manual method.... and i RESIZED C to create ext and a swap and remaining of C ///// but my windows cant boot :( help me :( :(
[03:13] <francis> Stanlin: tell u what, when your computer stops crashing on hibernate
[03:13] <OsamaK> * could :)
[03:13] <francis> come back and talk to me  :P
[03:13] <Matr|X> i installed lamp server but i want to unstall evry thing agine wht command to unstall evry thing
[03:13] <Caskey100> can anyone help me with the installation of a local printer???
[03:14] <francis> until then, just bury ur head in shame brother :P
[03:14] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, that looks good
[03:14] <Stanlin> any advice on Hibernation??
[03:14] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; ya
[03:14] <^Phantom^> Actually, is there any way xchat can support mirc scripts?
[03:14] <Matr|X> can anyone help me with unstalling lamp-server
[03:14] <tgr> PerryArmstrong: http://equiliberate.org/?q=node/3
[03:14] <simNIX> realy gotta go - 415 am - and gotta go job hunting tomorow
[03:14] <hal14450> woah what happened w/ the chan switch there?
[03:15] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; can the server on hardy provide updations for jaunty clients??
[03:15] <Matr|X> hello
[03:15] <studentz> Casey100  System --> Administration ---> Printing  click new and follow the instructions
[03:15] <Matr|X> !help lamp-server
[03:15] <Madpilot> ubottu, lamp | Matr|X
[03:15] <Caskey100> studentz: I have tried that and it still won't physically print
[03:16] <studentz> whivh printer do you have
[03:16] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, yes - apt-mirror can grab any release - in this case testing if im not mistaken
[03:16] <Caskey100> studentz: Lexmark X2690
[03:16] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; testing what??
[03:16] <studentz> Casey100 give me a minute
[03:17] <simNIX> Jaunty = testing right ?
[03:17] <Caskey100> studentz: ok
[03:17] <Matr|X> i installed it yestrday but today give me some error caz one file is missing or somthing
[03:17] <andrewkk> kitche: fyi, apparently xinerama was to blame. I'm not sure why there weren't any error messages.
[03:18] <Madpilot> Matr|X, asking questions in-channel is a far better way to get help than random PMing
[03:18] <Madpilot> Matr|X, also, pls be more specific than "some error"
[03:19] <Matr|X> sorry
[03:19] <Matr|X> i have problem now
[03:19] <vincentpsp2> what time has come ubuntu 9.04
[03:19] <Madpilot> have you run the error you get thru a google search?
[03:19] <brianski> am i the only one having issues with firefox hanging (while displaying 'finished checking Xulrunner) after the latest upgrade?
[03:19] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, I may be mixing it up with Debian - there not out version = called testing if you grab it with apt-mirror
[03:19] <Matr|X> ok
[03:19] <Matr|X> now im newbe
[03:19] <mkasson> I just set up my kids computer to dual boot Ubuntu and Win
[03:19] <mkasson> how do I get grub to boot ubuntu by default?
[03:19] <cirE1> how do i run the update manager for new 9.04?
[03:20] <hal14450> mkasson, change the order in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:20] <Matr|X> i installed this struff apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server   then i unstall it .. now i want to install evry thing agine but its wont install
[03:20] <mkasson> hal14450, do I have to boot from livecd to do that?
[03:20] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; okk...anyways i am on intrepid now...in 30 minutes i'll be on a jaunty after restarting my machine
[03:20] <newcomer> mkasson, no
[03:20] <mkasson> cool, thanks
[03:20] <simNIX> PerryArmstrong, night m8
[03:20] <Caskey100> Studentz: you still there??
[03:20] <simNIX> nice meeting ya
[03:20] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; good nite...sleep well
[03:21] <simNIX> ty
[03:21] <PerryArmstrong> simNIX; ya nice metting you too
[03:21] <cirE1> whats the command to update to new distro?
[03:21] <hal14450> mkasson, no but you'll have to edit the file using a sudo command like gksudo gedit or sudo nano /path/to/menu.lst
[03:21] <KingKimi>  fdisk -l
[03:21] <KingKimi> Cannot open /dev/sda
[03:21] <KingKimi>   how do i open /dev/sda ?????
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> cirE1: Check the release notes.
[03:21] <mkasson> hal14450, no probs with that
[03:21] <grendal_prime> is it possible to natively play mac stuff yet?
[03:21] <brianski> KingKimi: throw a sudo in there
[03:21] <brianski> sudo fdisk -l
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> cirE1: 9.04 is not out yet.
[03:22] <grendal_prime> sounds like a stupid question i know..im just curriouse is all
[03:22] <studentz> Caskey100 Yes, just searching the database in the linux fundation
[03:22] <cirE1> isn't the RC out?
[03:22] <brianski> grendal_prime: what do you mean exactly?
[03:22] <hal14450> mkasson, just backup the file before hand so you don't doa  footbullet
[03:22] <KingKimi> brianski, thnx !
[03:22] <cirE1> but yea it should be released in the next hour and a half
[03:22] <_chun> Can anyone help: I installed the latest Realtek drivers for my soundcard, but now the microphone jack refuses to work. How/where can I re-install the default sound drivers in ubuntu? (I'm fairly new to linux as a whole)
[03:22] <Caskey100> studentz: okay thank you I am also doing the same
[03:22] <newcomer> mkasson, just change the line "default 0" to "default 1" or whatever ubuntu is
[03:22] <brianski> cirE1: the "RC" is out, but it is a candidate that failed to get elected - 9.04 release will not be the same as RC1
[03:22] <Matr|X> root@xob:/# apt-get remove apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libmysqlclient15off libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libpq5 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 php5-common php5-mysql
[03:22] <Matr|X> Reading package lists... Done
[03:22] <Matr|X> Building dependency tree
[03:22] <Matr|X> Reading state information... Done
[03:22] <Matr|X> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[03:22] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <Matr|X>   apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl
[03:23] <cirE1> oh thanks for the heads up!
[03:23] <Stanlin> Help me or I will ask for a refund!!!
[03:23] <thebackwash> Stanlin: give me your paypal info.  i'll send you a refund ;)
[03:24] <mkasson> newcomer, ah even better
[03:24] <jats> Hey, would someone mind helping me with mkisofs? It's not really the topic but I couldn't find anyone at #dvdstyler, and I'm pretty sure mkisofs doesn't have its own channel.
[03:25] <grendal_prime> i just see alot of opensource like educational games for mac...it has been my assumption i would need a mac emulator to run them
[03:25] <studentz> Casey100: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X2690
[03:26] <Guest64560> hey is there a command to display all the programs that I may run from the terminal? for example if I have firefox, I can type in "firefox" in the terminal to run it, but some programs are spelled differently when run from terminal
[03:26] <grendal_prime> brianski: just wondered if some of them are...runnable without an emulator or vm type enviroment
[03:26] <soldats> anyone notice the package build-essential isnt authenticated.
[03:27] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:27] <Stanlin> thebackwash<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:27] <Caskey100> studentz: how do  use this information provided I'm new to linux
[03:27] <jats> Guest6...:I
[03:27] <dft> is oOo 3 pkgd for 8.10?
[03:27] <studentz> Casey100 It has two penguins Mostly works on Linux
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> dft: yes.
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> dft: You can get it from the PPA.
[03:28] <studentz> Casey100 click on CUPS in the gray box
[03:28] <Guest64560> jats: ..what?
[03:28] <jats> Guest6...:I'm not sure you'd want a complete list, I would think on a system with many packages there would be quite alot. One thing you could try is type the first few characters, then hit <TAB>
[03:28] <Fiuza> hi there
[03:28] <josh977> I'm upgrading my laptop from ibex to jaunty. --I'm scared.
[03:28] <dft> tonyyarusso: ty
[03:28] <Fiuza> i need help
[03:28] <Caskey100> STudentz so that can mean it prolly just doesn't work w/ this distro of Linux
[03:29] <Guest64560> o ok
[03:29] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:29] <jats> Sorry Guest, hit enter too soon the first time.
[03:29] <marduke> hellas
[03:29] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:29] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:29] <Matr|X> plz help me3
[03:29] <Guest64560> not working...I type in a few characters, press tab--> nothign happends
[03:29] <jats> Guest:There probably is a way. I don't know of one, maybe someone else does?
[03:29] <Caskey100> Studentz its weird Ubuntu picked it up right away but just won't print a document
[03:30] <studentz> Caskey100: No, CUPS works for all linux distros
[03:30] <jats> Guest: sorry, I should have said hit it twice.
[03:30] <Guest64560> o I see
[03:30] <studentz> Caskey give some time to help you I'm reading spec of your printer
[03:31] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:31] <h8red> can someone tell me why on certain programs I can't view the text inside the file menus?  i think this has something to do with the fact that i have an nvidia card.
[03:31] <Caskey100> studentz: okay thanks
[03:31] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:31] <Matr|X> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/
[03:31] <Matr|X> help me plz
[03:32] <Matr|X> my intrnset is dirty:S
[03:32] <JECHO> h8red: are you using a dark theme?
[03:32] <jats> Hitting it once works when there is only one possibility. If I type 'base6' on my system the only possibility is a program called base64, so 1 tab brings that up. Tabbing works also for paths (probably more useful).
[03:32] <Yud_Zroc> who would like to try to fully convert me
[03:32] <jdu> Yud_Zroc: to ubuntu?
[03:32] <Fiuza> what's trouble Matr|x?
[03:32] <h8red> Jecho no
[03:32] <Fiuza> what's trouble Matr|X?
[03:33] <Yud_Zroc> jdu: away from windows to linux in general
[03:33] <Pici> !ot
[03:33] <Fiuza> faitz: hello
[03:33]  * jdu goes to offtopic
[03:33]  * Yud_Zroc does the same
[03:33] <h8red> I had to disable antialiasing or something in OpenOffice's settings to get it to work.  I'm assuming those same problems are preventing me from seeing the menu text in Scribus and PDFEdit.  Is there a universal way to disable antialiasing of text so I don't have to jack with it for every single app this happens to?
[03:34] <Stanlin> OK I GIVE UP
[03:34] <Fiuza> h8red
[03:34] <Matr|X> i sent the link
[03:34] <Matr|X> i had install lamp-server
[03:34] <Matr|X> then i unstall it
[03:34] <Matr|X> now i want to install it agine
[03:34] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <Matr|X> !ping $me
[03:35] <h8red> yes  Fiuza?
[03:35] <studentz> Caskey100 here is the driver http://downloads.lexmark.com/perl/downloads/downloads.cgi
[03:35] <JECHO> Floodbot2 are yo ua person?
[03:35] <studentz> Caskey100: choose the first one
[03:36] <Pici> JECHO: Its a bot.
[03:36] <Caskey100> Studentz: okay
[03:36] <JECHO> Pici: thats what i thought but after reading some of its messages i wasnt sure
[03:36] <eseven73> you'd think the name 'bot' in FloodBot* would tell you it's a bot :)
[03:37] <joetheodd> Hey guys.. I want to use airsnort-ng to detect wifi passwords, but I'm not sure how to get raw wireless captures.
[03:37] <JECHO> joetheodd is your wireless card capable?
[03:37] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, is your wireless card in monitor mode?
[03:37] <JECHO> joetheodd only some cards are supported
[03:37] <TheFunkbomb> rt73 FTW!
[03:37] <joetheodd> I think my card's capable. How can I test?
[03:38] <TheFunkbomb> go into a terminal and put in iwconfig
[03:38] <TheFunkbomb> see if it's monitor mode
[03:39] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, doesn't say it is. Do I have to enable monitor mode?
[03:39] <TheFunkbomb> yes
[03:39] <joetheodd> How do I go about doing that?
[03:39] <TheFunkbomb> what card is it?
[03:39] <vanja989> im new here..i wanna make two difrent acounts for me and my mom
[03:39] <vanja989> How???
[03:40] <vanja989> But i want to limit her acssesing to my files
[03:40] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, what card is it?
[03:40] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, an integrated intel card
[03:40] <vanja989> i mean i dont wanna nothing to see
[03:40] <TheFunkbomb> I don't think that's supported
[03:40] <TheFunkbomb> I'm not sure though
[03:40] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, I've got a Realtek USB one
[03:40] <joetheodd> (also)
[03:40] <vanja989> what???
[03:40] <vanja989> :(
[03:40] <joetheodd> vanja989, type adduser <name> in a console
[03:41] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, I'll tell you how to do it but I take no responsibility
[03:41] <jats> vanja989:readup on file permissions
[03:41] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, fair enough.
[03:41] <joetheodd> TheFunkbomb, I'm used to breaking my system. I'm on jaunty anyhow :)
[03:41] <jeff__> vanja989: creating accounts is done under the system tab. to change file permissions, right click on a folder and look under properties. just remember to apply your permissions RECURSIVELY.
[03:41] <KingKimi> i use APTON CD to create an iso.... when i restore iso .... NOTHING got installed.... help me with this .........
[03:41] <TheFunkbomb> joetheodd, go into terminal and type "sudo ifconfig (card name) down".  Then type "sudo iwconfig (cardname) mode monitor"
[03:42] <TheFunkbomb> then finally "sudo ifconfig (card name) up"
[03:42] <TheFunkbomb> then type in iwconfig and see if it's in monitor mode
[03:42] <jats> vanja: Also try TrueCrypt, it password protects files. I think in 9.04 there is an encrypted directory that is automatically de-encrypted with your logon password.
[03:44] <KingKimi> how do i add to grub ?? it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."
[03:44] <KingKimi> help me to get permission
[03:44] <ernakk3> hi i need some help. i had xp pro installed, then put on xubuntu install with no problems.  now i had to reinstall xp so i put on xp home, and now i cant load into my xubuntu system at all, how do i fix this?
[03:44] <ernakk3> right now i'm using the xubuntu live cd, as the xp home didnt even detect my other harddrive which had drivers on it
[03:44] <ernakk3> so i have access to my drive which is partitioned for both xubuntu and xp home
[03:44] <joao> hi
[03:44] <karsten> ernakk3: reinstall grub
[03:45] <ernakk3> actually neither my drives show up in file manager
[03:45] <ernakk3> under media
[03:45] <ernakk3> nothing shows up
[03:45] <ernakk3> so still reinstall grub/
[03:45] <karsten> ernakk3: Sorry, I can't stick around, but that's your solution, either Google or ask channel.
[03:45] <spenser> Hi, can anyone tell me at what time the release can be expected?  I'm helping with an install fest, and I need to get the images ASAP.
[03:45] <ernakk3> k thanks
[03:45] <karsten> ernakk3: got shell skillz?
[03:45] <ernakk3> nope
[03:45] <ernakk3> total new to this
[03:45] <KingKimi> HOW DO I ADD lines to grub ?? it says DONT HAEV permision..... how do i get permission ???
[03:45] <studentz> KingKimi: to have access to grub you have to use 'sudo'
[03:45] <karsten> ernakk3: Well, I can't teach you now.  But /proc/partitions would show any recognized devices.
[03:45] <jeff__> KingKimi: use "gksudo" if you're using a graphical editor.
[03:46] <karsten> ernakk3: gotta split.  Laterz
[03:46] <ernakk3> karstem: ok cool, yeah i know some stuff
[03:46] <hal14450> KingKimi, sudo
[03:46] <ernakk3> bye
[03:46] <S02B9Z7V40KUVJQQ> "No, no, do the goldfish!" cried the hairy office secretary as the corpulent ex-celibate penetrated her pink-tipped globes and reamed his rapidly dwindling John Thomas into her soft-spoken honeypot.
[03:46] <hal14450> gksudo for a gui
[03:46] <KingKimi> jeff, gksudo /boot/grub.list ?
[03:46] <lolololo> ernakk3: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[03:46] <vanja989> i expecting for u to help me tmrw..Now is 4 46 here n  i got 2 go
[03:46] <Mike94287> What time is Jaunty coming out?
[03:46] <KingKimi> jeff, i need a command to edit menu.lst
[03:46] <Pici> !isitout | Mike94287
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> Mike94287: #ubuntu-release-party for all such questions.  #ubuntu is for support only.
[03:46] <ernakk3> yeah that file shows exactly what my drives are
[03:47] <ernakk3> so it's there
[03:47] <ernakk3> have to mount it
[03:47] <ernakk3> anyone know how
[03:47] <FloodBot2> ernakk3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <jeff__> KingKimi: no, use gksudo gedit (insert grub directory here)
[03:47] <studentz> KingKimi in a terminal type 'sudo + ther resty of the command '
[03:48] <wy> Hello, anybody know how to download pages in a wiki site recursively?
[03:48] <KingKimi> jeff_ thanks
[03:48] <lolololo> wy google for wget
[03:48] <wy> lolololo: I'm using it, but it stops at the first page with -r and some other options
[03:49] <eseven73> wy try DownThemAll maybe or Flashgot
[03:49] <jeff__> KingKimi: no problem :) ... if you're feeling hardcore, then read about the terminal on help.ubuntu.com or another such tutorial.
[03:49] <lolololo> lemme check the switches
[03:49] <ErgyJB> hello
[03:49] <wy> so I guess maybe the site is a little different.
[03:49] <jedi06> why isn't my cdrom mounting so i can see the files
[03:50] <etzerd> hello
[03:50] <commodore256> hey
[03:50] <etzerd> what's new today?
[03:50] <KingKimi> jeff__, thanks for the tip !
[03:50] <commodore256> I don't know
[03:50] <jedi06> when i click on the cdrom it just doesn't do anything
[03:51] <jedi06> does it log what is going on somewhere
[03:51] <lolololo> wy maybe the site is blocking your user agent
[03:51] <commodore256> type eject in your terminal
[03:51] <lolololo> try passing -U Mozilla
[03:52] <evilhack02> hello
[03:52] <wy> lolololo: I tried. It doesn't work. It's just a trivial site.  WHen I open a new window, the mouse pointer moves to its center. I thought it was some accessibility feature I had accidentally turned oon but can't find an option related on gnome settings. any hints?
[03:57] <jdu> slew, likely, yes.  You should probably google your laptop to see other people's experiences but normally things like that work.
[03:57] <KingKimi> what is "update-gnome"
[03:57] <KingKimi> how do i install it ?
[03:57] <jdu> Level15: mouse warping?
[03:57] <Crash1hd> does clamTK see / detect viruses in .exe files?
[03:57] <etzerd> ?
[03:57] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, YES !
[03:58] <jdu> Level15: you might find the setting for it in:  gconf-editor
[03:58] <slew> jdu thanks
[03:58] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, do a recursive scan of your windows drives and it will get good number of Exe.s :P
[03:58] <evilhack02> the solution is in gnome ubuntu 9.04 eliminates these bugs
[03:58] <studentz> should compile 2.6.30-rc3
[03:58] <evilhack02> yes
[03:58] <Crash1hd> KingKimi: ok :) thanks just was wondering cause I put a drive in and is testing it now that avg had found but clamTK isnt seeing yet
[03:58] <etzerd> I have a Verizon UM150 Mobile Broadband USB Modem that I want to set up, can anyone here help me with it?
[03:58] <Crash1hd> its still scanning though
[03:58] <Level15> jdu: ok, let me check that
[03:58] <jdu> no problem, I hope it works for you.
[03:59] <Level15> jdu: why on earth would it auto activate itself?
[03:59] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, updated clam ?
[03:59] <studentz> plus fix ubuntu bug # 1
[03:59] <Crash1hd> it says its uptodate
[03:59] <jdu> Level15: probably, it was some how accidentally turned on.  I don't think mouse warming is ever a default.
[03:59] <jdu> *warping
[03:59] <KingKimi> Crash1hd, there is also avast version for ubuntu
[04:00] <evilhack02> I think that bill  gates is gay
[04:00] <Crash1hd> Cool :)
[04:01] <KingKimi> evilhack02, ;-)
[04:01] <eseven73> !ot | evilhack02
[04:01] <blouf> hi
[04:01]  * misplacedme waves and whatnot
[04:01] <KingKimi> blouf, hi..!!
[04:01] <blouf> anyone know for when is jaunty planned ?
[04:01] <eseven73> !isitout
[04:02] <evilhack02> sorry
[04:03] <blouf> ok thanks anyway
[04:03] <tgr> anyone here use verizon usb wifi on ubuntu?
[04:03] <perlooooooooo> hello guys
[04:03] <schambers> i am using ubuntu in a vmware instance and flash seems to be using an awful lot of cpu
[04:03] <perlooooooooo> is there any way to read .wvm in ubuntu
[04:03] <blouf> last one, is there anyway to upgrade directly to jaunty or i'll have to make a fresh install ?
[04:03] <space_cadet> tgr i know someone that used the sprint card in ubuntu using wine and the windows setup wizard
[04:03] <schambers> i installed flashblock, but it's still running sluggish
[04:03] <space_cadet> schambers, goto about:config
[04:04] <space_cadet> schambers, type ipv6
[04:04] <dani> hello
[04:04] <tgr> space_cadet: thanks for the input
[04:04] <jdu> blouf: the update manager will allow you to update to jaunty provided you have intrepid
[04:04] <studentz> perlooooooooooooooooo : YES
[04:04] <perlooooooooo> how
[04:04] <perlooooooooo> ??
[04:04] <space_cadet> schambers,    make the "disable ipv6 dns"    =    true
[04:05] <blouf> jdu, great, i guess it will be like every update right ?
[04:05] <Guest46929> I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????
 I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????
[04:05] <space_cadet> depends on what you want
[04:05] <jdu> blouf: yes except it will have a slightly different dialog and it will take much longer...
[04:05] <schambers> how do i save once i am done?
[04:05] <blouf> jdu, i guess so
[04:06] <space_cadet> schambers, restart firefox
[04:06] <jdu> blouf: depends on your internet connection of course.
[04:06] <outbackwifi> !hi
[04:06] <space_cadet> schambers, once you change it, a restart applies
[04:06] <evilhack02> ubuntu is a report of certain errors
[04:06] <evilhack02> beware of the virtual box looking for a patch I still do not find what I seek
[04:06] <studentz> perloooooooooo: install medibuntu sources, w32codecs, mplayer
[04:06] <perlooooooooo> that what i did
[04:06] <blouf> jdu, but what i really want to know is ... about ext4, it'll not make my current system a mess ?
[04:06] <space_cadet> schambers, just so you know, that will only speed up the initial "searching for blahblah.com"
[04:06] <perlooooooooo> but doesnt work for all the files
[04:06] <evilhack02> is cool  men  perloooooooo
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, if you are experiencing slowness still, look into the RIGHT WAY to use pipelining
[04:07] <Guest46929> I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page?? because right now nothing is checked at all
[04:07] <jdu> blouf: from what I read, it might cause certain problems, but I don't think they are serious, per se.
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, or ..... upgrade your internet service....
[04:07] <schambers> pipelining?
[04:07] <schambers> well this is ubuntu running in a vm
[04:07] <schambers> with vmware
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, sending multiple requests at a time
[04:07] <studentz> perloooo; are you in 32 or 64
[04:07] <outbackwifi> Guest46929: that would depend on what 3rd party software you want to install
[04:07] <space_cadet> schambers, lol...
[04:08] <schambers> firefox is just being a system hog it seems
[04:08] <perlooooooooo> ZA
[04:08] <perlooooooooo> 21
[04:08] <perlooooooooo> 32
[04:08] <blouf> jdu, oh :( problems like ?
[04:08] <outbackwifi> !enter | perlooooooooo
[04:08] <fearthenofear> I installed openoffice.org of which I cd into the directory and then sudo dpkg -i *.deb and it installed but it didn't show up anywhere....
[04:08] <space_cadet> schambers,  get virtualbox
[04:08] <scunizi> evilhack02: what issue are you having with vbox?
[04:08] <Spock2f> hello world :)
[04:08] <Guest46929> which ones would you recommend me outbackwifi? im a noob
[04:08] <space_cadet> schambers, that is true... it is a system hog.
[04:09] <schambers> any good alternatives on ubuntu for browsers?
[04:09] <jdu> blouf: delayed rights resulting in program instability in certain scenarios.  Some people reported kernel freezes on deletes in jaunty.
[04:09] <pc> jdu, blouf: I can't imagine one will be forced to ext4, will one?
[04:09] <schambers> they dont have a chrome linux version yet do they?
[04:09] <evilhack02> must be broken in the Open Office package
[04:09] <jdu> rights = writes
[04:09] <r33tfux0r> Good evening.  Is there a way to perform the special Ubuntu Server LAMP metapackage on ubuntu desktop or do you just install the components separately
[04:09] <outbackwifi> Guest46929: hard to tell, for example, I am using the array.org kernel for my Eeepc so I have the array.org repositories in there
[04:09] <jdu> pc: no
[04:09] <blouf> pc : i hope no
[04:09] <outbackwifi> schambers: look for chromium
[04:09] <jdu> pc: it is an option on the alternate cd
[04:09] <Guest46929> im on a laptop
[04:10] <scunizi> r33tfux0r: yes there's a couple of ways.. on cli tasksel lamp.. in synaptic there is a menu option to install lamp but you have to dig for it