[17:11] <Comics-Idees> andrewaclt user says it supports linux but I cannot find any driver for linux
[17:11] <Kikody> ok escott, i´ll inform you whether it was successful; a lot of thanks for your help until now!
[17:12] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: you did say the DVD worked when you booted to windows?
[17:12] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, newest version, I'm pretty sure I have everything installed
[17:12] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, dvd playback works in windows :-/
[17:13] <dvdproblem> I was hoping to do away with windows, but I could keep it for playing dvds
[17:13] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: do data cd's work in that drive?
[17:13] <nut> hi yall
[17:13] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, i've got a few linuxformat magazine dvds that i've accessed without problem
[17:14] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: and you sure libdvdcss is installed ?
[17:14] <dvdproblem> the computer just doesnt recognize any dvd inserted, its strange
[17:14] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, installed it there about an hour ago I think, and rebooted
[17:15] <falu> after booting i have no ethernet connection until i restart networking with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart". any ideas or tips?
[17:16] <Guest10163> do i need to join ubuntu community to work this??
[17:16] <Brustofski-Fan> sudo apt-get -f is not doing anything...      E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdm_3.0.4-0ubuntu15_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pixmaps/nobody.png', which is also in package mdm 1.0.4
[17:17] <dvdproblem> hey guys, I have to go now, "fathers day" dinner - thanks for all your help, I'll check on forums and report back tomorrow if that's OK.
[17:17] <dvdproblem> cya
[17:22] <escott> Brustofski-Fan, why not remove the other display manager
[17:22] <escott> Brustofski-Fan, nevermind mdm is not a display manager
[17:24] <paanii> hello everyone
[17:24] <yousef1337> hello
[17:24] <Brustofski-Fan> escott: isent a dkpg command that help fix things?
[17:24] <paanii> i need to sync my blackberry with my ubuntu 12.04
[17:25] <escott> Brustofski-Fan, if the only collision is the pixmap you could just force it with --force
[17:26] <WeThePeople> when i plug my headphones in the speakers on the laptop are still on how do i shut them off
[17:27] <Guest73634> how can i release usb wireless adapter?
[17:29] <escott> HAly, use iwconfig to disable it, then rmmod
[17:29] <HAly> how? iwconfig power off?
[17:30] <escott> HAly, try ifconfig wlan0 down
[17:31] <ron__> My atheros ar5212 won't work under ubuntu 12.04. Where can I find some help ?
[17:32] <escott> ron__, atheros is usually well supported. what problems are you having
[17:33] <ron__> no wireless connection, I am newbie
[17:33] <escott> ron__, open a terminal and type "iwconfig" and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com'
[17:33] <karley> http://superuser.com/questions/437995/asus-p877-v-lx-memory-with-1-stick-works-in-b1-but-not-in-a2 free rep for wild guesses
[17:34] <Kikody> thank you a thousand times escott ;-) you solved the problem :-)
[17:34] <amh345> what the best way using commandline to find out applications are using cpu
[17:34] <HAly> escott, the command runs with no error but wireless is still there
[17:34] <Kikody> these lines i wrote from the now working installation
[17:34] <amh345> im maxing at 100% cpu usage and i dont know why
[17:35] <escott> Kikody, solved it for now. if that UUID ever goes away its going to drop you back to initramfs and you'll have to manually fix it again. the boot method you are using (install the usb mass storage) is not always the best supported
[17:35] <HAly> escott, I actually want to stop the adapter to use it in virtualbox
[17:35] <ron__> Done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045888/
[17:35] <escott> HAly, yeah im not entirely sure
[17:36] <oCean> amh345: run the top command or, htop (sudo apt-get install htop)
[17:36] <HAly> escott, thank's anyway
[17:36] <escott> ron__, and when you click on the network icon in the upper left and go to network preferences what does it say about the wireless
[17:36] <Kikody> escott: you´re right but now i know how to fix that
[17:36] <escott> karley, you might try ##hardware. matching dram though?
[17:37] <ki7rw> this is interesting from running aptitude search: pi  libusb-dev       if i understand what i've read, the p means that the package isn't installed while the i says its installed - well, is it installed or not?
[17:37] <Cyclohexane> Anyone got any neat ideas for performing remote backup (offsite) without having to wait 12hrs for a GB+ file to upload to e-mail / backup space?
[17:37] <escott> Cyclohexane, fedex?
[17:38] <ukim> Hi. I'm using ubuntu 11.10. I have deleted openjdk-6 and then installed open-jdk-7. Now  I can not launch netbeans 7. No error has been shown. How can I fix that?
[17:40] <ron__> Sagem wireless connection. Never used
[17:40] <escott> ron__, Sagem?
[17:40] <escott> !pm | Armadillogeddon
[17:41] <Armadillogeddon> I did
[17:41] <Armadillogeddon> Nothing happened. Should I repeat it?
[17:41] <escott> Armadillogeddon, yes
[17:41] <lucas-arg> any idea how to make luckybackup delete destination files that are not included in origen source?
[17:42] <ron__> Sagem. This is my router
[17:42] <Armadillogeddon> Can I set a program to run in a tty terminal on startup?
[17:43] <escott> ron__, so it shows it and when you try and run it what happens
[17:43] <escott> Armadillogeddon, please stop with the private messages.
[17:43] <Armadillogeddon> I'm trying to close it
[17:43] <escott> Armadillogeddon, you can put one off commands in /etc/rc.local, but it doesnt run on a tty
[17:44] <Armadillogeddon> kk
[17:44] <escott> ron__, you just cannot associate with it?
[17:45] <chrrisalk> I have a question if someone can help me
[17:45] <aaa> how can i set up a versioned directory? i want ubuntu to keep the old version when i update a file in that folder, so i can restore it i case of a crush or unintended change.
[17:46] <chrrisalk> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an older laptop running XP, it doesn't offer the option to load from a usb, when I dl'd the ubuntu the wubi wants to reboot, which it does but Ubuntu doesn't load from there
[17:46] <escott> aaa, for /etc you should be installing and using etc-keeper which is an apt aware wrapper around a RCS of your choice. otherwise just pick one. git/svn etc
[17:46] <ron__> When I double click it, it gives my Sagem settings SSID, Modus, BSSID, Mac Address etc...
[17:46] <escott> chrrisalk, wubi is different from a normal install. did you want a wubi install?
[17:47] <ricstr> hi folks, I hope someone can please help me. I have an acer aspire 5332 laptop. I am attempting to install ubuntu 12.04 x64. though it show a purple loading screen, then looks like the display changes resolution and stays blank. it has sat blank for about 5 minutes then the CD drives goes idle and then nothing else happens?
[17:47] <escott> !paste | ron__ can you send us a screenshot
[17:47] <chrrisalk> no,just want to get it on this unit to run as primary OS
[17:47] <akls> chrrisalk, wubi? wtf.. well, you need unetbootin to create a bootable usb with linux
[17:47] <list> ciao
[17:47] <list> !list
[17:47] <escott> chrrisalk, then you need to make an install cd, and use that
got that already
[17:48] <akls> chrrisalk, and you can't install from cd/dvd? then again, use unetbootin to get your livecd on usb, then boot from usb and install it
[17:48] <chrrisalk> ok, i've tried that but I'll go again
[17:48] <chrrisalk> got it, thank you
[17:49] <list> ciao
[17:49] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack
[17:50] <list> ciao
[17:50] <WeThePeople> what do i gotta do to turn off the speakers on the laptop when i plug my headphones in
[17:50] <ricstr> hi folks, I hope someone can please help me. I have an acer aspire 5332 laptop. I am attempting to install ubuntu 12.04 x64. though it show a purple loading screen, then looks like the display changes resolution and stays blank. it has sat blank for about 5 minutes then the CD drives goes idle and then nothing else happens?
[17:51] <escott> WeThePeople, laptop? intel hardware?
[17:51] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before
[17:51] <WeThePeople> laptop on pent 4
[17:52] <ron__> http://imagebin.org/216797
[17:52] <escott> WeThePeople, what kind of audio chipset "sudo lshw -C audio"
[17:52] <escott> WeThePeople, if that does nothing try the same with sound instead of audio
[17:53] <escott> ron__, and so what makes you say this is not working?
[17:53] <mputtr> if i want to SSH from windows 7 to a linux box by using nomachine's NX client, do i need to install a separate ssh program as well?
[17:53] <akls> ricstr, hm, try pressing ctrl+alt+f1, maybe it will get you to the TTY
[17:53] <oCean> !nickspam > KindSavr
[17:54] <akls> mputtr, on linux? just install ssh
[17:54] <KindSavr> oCean: It was like three
[17:54] <Matthewlawson3> Can someone help please. It would much appreciated
[17:54] <oCean> KindSavr: yes, and I ask you to stop at three
[17:54] <ron__> Have no wireless connection to the net. Working wired now.
[17:54] <escott> mputtr, i would assume that NX just provides the X server and you need putty or some other ssh client
[17:54] <mputtr> akls: my linux box has ssh and nomachine server set up already and i tested it so it works on the local level, but i have no idea how to access it from windows
[17:54] <akls> ricstr, if it will, then you probably have problems with graphics card drivers or something.. otherwise something worse is happening
[17:54] <user> oCean: I cant have such  a crap nick
[17:55] <ricstr> thanks akls, will reboot and give that try
[17:55] <ricstr> :)
[17:55] <mputtr> escott: so on the windows side, i would need to install putty to be able to access the linux box then?
[17:55] <akls> mputtr, oh, you just need a client..
[17:55] <WeThePeople> escott, driver=ATI IXP AC97 controller latency=64 mingnt=2
[17:55] <escott> mputtr, NX client and presumably putty yes
[17:55] <Matthewlawson3> I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before
[17:55] <oCean> Matthewlawson3: no need to repeat that quickly.
[17:55] <akls> mputtr, as far as I remember I used PuTTy some time ago..
[17:56] <mputtr> escott: so basically nx client would not be able to access my linux box because it doesn't know how ot ssh?
[17:56] <oCean> Matthewlawson3: have some patience, and try again in maybe 15 minutes
[17:56] <stimoceiver> hi, whats the default firewall in 12.04 ?
[17:56] <WeThePeople> escott, i used sound
[17:56] <Matthewlawson3> Ok thanks Ocean
[17:56] <oCean> !ufw | stimoceiver
[17:56] <escott> mputtr, i would be surprised if NX client included an ssh client.
[17:56] <HAly> my usb wireless adapter do not show up in virtualbox guest , so I can not use the adapter in guest  machin any help?
 Err msg: Bridged interface wlan0 is down. "Guest will not be able to use this interface"
[17:56] <mputtr> escott: one sec. im going to read up what the windows client offers
[17:57] <stimoceiver> oCean, whats strange is, ufw is disabled but iptables appears to be running. i thjink this is because i installed "fail2ban" script to protect ssh.
[17:57] <escott> ron__, so when you try to associate you dont get any error messages?
[17:57] <oCean> stimoceiver: not sure, but that is likely, yes
[17:57] <escott> HAly, if its bridged it needs to be running on the host
[17:58] <escott> HAly, right?
[17:58] <ron__> What do you mean with associate ?
[17:58] <stimoceiver> oCean the problem is, the default rule for input is set to "ACCEPT" - however I cannot telnet to localhost ports
[17:58] <mputtr> escott: according to nomachine, their windows client has ssh built into it
[17:58] <HAly> escott , yes it runs on the host with no problem
[17:58] <escott> ron__, you select your WAP from the list of WAPs that are seen
[17:58] <stimoceiver> oCean it says rejected
[17:59] <escott> WeThePeople, does it say intel HDA or High Definition Audio anywhere
[17:59] <mputtr> so that falls to how i am supposed to configure the server... and i have no clue what some of these stuff are like gnome,kde, cde, xdm
[18:00] <SDX> Gnome and KDE are desktop environments, to start.
[18:00] <ron__> When I select the Sagem entry nothing happens.
[18:00] <mputtr> ok
[18:00] <mputtr> SDX: so it's just a way the desktop is shown?
[18:00] <escott> mputtr, NX runs a specialized X server on the server that would need to start some kind of desktop environment or display manager
[18:00] <SDX> I have to consult Google for the second two.
[18:01] <escott> mputtr, so its probably asking you what kind of desktop environment you want to present on the other side
[18:01] <mputtr> escott: ok, so it's separate from what the linux box itself sees?
[18:01] <mputtr> escott: ahhhh ok
[18:01] <mputtr> so that really has nothing to do with establishing a connection
[18:01] <SDX> Ah.  CDE is "Common Desktop Environment" and xdm is X Display Manager.
[18:01] <escott> mputtr, SDX, CDE is the common desktop environment (old school SunOS? Motif ugliness) XDM is X display manager as opposed to GDM KDM
[18:02] <mputtr> ok
[18:02] <mputtr> what do you guys use/prefer
[18:03] <escott> mputtr, it sounds like it is asking for a display manager so the default in 12.04 is lightdm, unless you are using kubuntu in which case it might be kdm
[18:03] <mputtr> wierd.. so.. how do i do set it to lightdm? the only options i have are those 4 + a custom one
[18:03] <escott> ron__, what does iwconfig say after you try and select the Sagem
[18:04] <ron__> Same as posted before.
[18:05] <Relondo> So, I used "sudo apt-get install hibernate" to enable hibernation on my Precise 12.04 system. When I execute "sudo pm-hibernate", the computer displays a screen showing data compression progress. It finishes, displays the line SI, and then does nothing (it does not turn off). When I force-turn off by holding the power button, I can resume from hibernation as if it had worked properly. Does...
[18:05] <Relondo> ...anyone know why it didn't shut down after compressing and saving my data?
[18:08] <escott> ron__, what version of ubuntu are you running
[18:08] <jagger> I have ubuntu 12.04 64-bit and flash becomes really choppy over time. when the computer first starts up, flash runs fine, but after a few hours, it starts lagging. It happens in firefox and google chrome, but only on videos. I can play The Binding of Isaac swf in firefox with no problems. Does anyone have any ideas?
[18:09] <ron__> 12.04 LTS
[18:09] <Relondo> How can I add a "when power button is pressed" option to the power menu of system settings?
[18:09] <escott> ron__, when you go up to that up down arrow on the top of the screen and click on it it should show the WAPs it sees. "Sagem WiFi" is listed there, but when you click on it nothing happens?
[18:10] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before
[18:10] <jagger> Anyone have any ideas about my problem?
[18:11] <ron__> Sagem Wifi is not there, everything that has to do with wireless connection is disabled (gray).
[18:12] <escott> ron__, what does "rfkill list" say
[18:12] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: Do you have CCSM?
[18:12] <Matthewlawson3> What is CCSM? forgive me
[18:13] <escott> !ccsm | mathieuq
[18:13] <escott> !ccsm | Matthewlawson3
[18:13] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: No, it's fine. Go to Ubuntu Software Center and search for Compiz Settings Manager.
[18:13] <WeThePeople> escott, did you get the pm
[18:14] <escott> WeThePeople, please dont pm. use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:14] <Matthewlawson3> What will CCSM allow me to do in regard to my flash Chrome issue?
[18:14] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: It will allow you to change some necessary settings.
[18:14] <list> ciao
[18:14] <Matthewlawson3> ok hang on Relondo
[18:14] <list> !list
[18:15] <ron__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045959/
[18:15] <escott> WeThePeople, how about lsmod | grep snd
[18:15] <WeThePeople> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045962/
[18:16] <escott> ron__, its hard blocked. there should be a key or switch on the computer to enable the wireless
[18:16] <Matthewlawson3> Ok Relondo installing....what do I do after its installed?
[18:17] <ron__> No, I fear there is not. It's not a laptop.
[18:17] <WeThePeople> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045964
[18:17] <RyuGuns> Anyone know of a good sketchup alternative for Ubuntu?
[18:17] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: After it's installed, run it, go to the OpenGL tab, and make sure Sync is set to VBlank.
[18:17] <Matthewlawson3> OK hang on
[18:17] <escott> RyuGuns, blender would be the biggest name 3d modeling project but its nurbs based and not targeted at the same demographic
[18:18] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: After that, when you load up the video, right-click it, choose Settings>Display, and uncheck Enable Hardware Acceleration. If you can't access that menu in Chrome, do it from Firefox, and the problem should be fixed in Chrome, as well.
[18:18] <Matthewlawson3> Relondo what is terminal run command for it?
[18:18] <Matthewlawson3> or where is it in the applications
[18:19] <Relondo> If you get it from the software center, you can just search for CCSM in the dash.
[18:19] <b4db1t> hi, anyone know a voice control program under ubuntu 12.04 gnome 3?
[18:19] <ron__> I have 2 wireless adapters installed. One Ralink, other is atheros.
[18:20] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: Sorry, but I need to go. Hope that works for you :)
[18:21] <Matthewlawson3> OK thanks
[18:21] <Matthewlawson3> Appreciate it
[18:21] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: No problem. Later.
[18:21] <mputtr> i can't seem to get the NX client to connect to the server.. it keeps on saying connection refused..
[18:22] <uKolka> I upgraded to the Skype 4.0 and now whenever I make a video call after some time it crashes the X server. The only thing it outputs into the nohup log file is "skype: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.". I wonder if it's the Skype's fault or the X's. My system is: Linux eME640G 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 22:11:24 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[18:22] <escott> mputtr, do you have a firewall or NAT?
[18:22] <mputtr> escott: not that i know of
[18:22] <escott> uKolka, both
[18:22] <mputtr> i've allowed the client through the firewall already (the windows firewall)
[18:23] <mputtr> and i believe i have already port forwarded port 22
[18:23] <mputtr> i think part of it is, i do not know how to find out what the host name is...
[18:23] <escott> mputtr, and is it using port 22
[18:23] <mputtr> yup
[18:23] <mputtr> atleast i think it is
[18:24] <WeThePeople> escott. fixed it thx
[18:24] <WeThePeople> alsamixer
[18:26] <mputtr> what should i do to find out what the proper host name to access the linux box from windows 7?
[18:26] <mputtr> would the host name be the IP address of the linux box?
[18:26] <escott> mputtr, unless you are running a DNS server on your router then it will be by ip
[18:27] <mputtr> ok, so considering how IP works with ISPs.. do i use the IP address that's defined by the ISP + port that the linux box is connected to then specify port 22?
[18:27] <mputtr> or do i use the internal IP?
[18:28] <escott> mputtr, are you coming across the WAN?
[18:28] <mputtr> no, both of them are connected via ethernet
[18:28] <mputtr> well.... somehow i got in...
[18:28] <escott> mputtr, so they are on the same subnet?
[18:28] <mputtr> escott: yup
[18:29] <escott> mputtr, then you use the ip address of the machine on that subnet
[18:29] <mputtr> i guess i changed something....... now i get a blank screen of my linux box.
[18:29] <mputtr> how do i actually pull up softwares and see the desktop?
[18:30] <mputtr> sorry, i know that this is probably aggravating for you to help a newbie like me :(
[18:32] <Matthewlawson3> Guys I tried to follow Relondo's advice up there and followed it to the T but it is still not helping with Chrome flash problems
[18:32] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how to debug that?
[18:32] <KRomeleoN> is it necesaary to scan for viruses in ubuntu? I have clam installed, how often to run it?
[18:33] <SS01> KRomeleon: Linux viruses are /extremely/ rare, you don't really need an antivirus program.
[18:34] <sleax>  hi to all, i have encrypted a password for grub2 with a PBKDF2 function , now i would to say: if encryption the passwd it takes about 1/4 second, why for the decryption it takes more time (more 3 sec)?
[18:35] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before . I followed Relondo's instructions and that did not work
[18:36] <escott> sleax, its normal to insert delays when there is a failure
[18:37] <sleax> escott i know it, but the delay is given by the parameters of function, right?
[18:38] <Kerni094> hi guys
[18:38] <Kerni094> i have a little question. i have here a medion 8386xl and windows sucks. i thought now about to install ubutnu
[18:38] <escott> sleax, im not sure what the point of an encrypted grub is
[18:38] <Kerni094> my question is if i need any extra drivers
[18:39] <escott> sleax, why are you doing that?
[18:39] <Simeondahl> Hey
[18:39] <sleax> it uses PBKDF(password/passphrase,salt,length of hash,number of iterations)
[18:40] <sleax> the uses for example 1000 iteration it takes 0.5 sec
[18:40] <sleax> using 2000 it will takes 1 sec
[18:40] <sleax> but both in crypting such as decrypting..or not?
[18:40] <alankila> maybe the decryption function is slower than the encryption function. Hmm.
[18:41] <sleax> yes, but i would to know why..
[18:41] <escott> sleax, they should be the exact same. there is no "decryption" that goes on
[18:42] <sleax> it uses the same function..but why different times?
[18:43] <sleax> i.e. why decryption needs more time than encryption?
[18:43] <escott> sleax, more iterations takes longer. thats the point of iterations. but passwords are never "decrypted"
[18:43] <escott> sleax, they are hashed. and the hashes are then compared
[18:43] <sleax> but why more time?
[18:43] <sleax> if it should hash the same string
[18:44] <alankila> it's a fair point though. passwords are not normally decrypted, only calculation performed is the calculation process and then comparing the hash value with the stored hash value
[18:44] <alankila> therefore testing that the password is correct should literally take exactly the same time as it is the same process
[18:44] <escott> sleax, someone has clearly inserted a delay into the process of the authentication to prevent brute force attempts. i would expect it to be put at the end after the test fails
[18:44] <MikeWatt> hey everyone. I'm encountering a problem when I try to install updates for packages "E:The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package pastebinit."
[18:44] <escott> sleax, but they must have decided to do it every time
[18:44] <alankila> only thing that is different in that when you first set the password, you generate the random salt; when you test the password, you read the salt from the existing password
[18:45] <MikeWatt> how can I fix the coruppted files?
[18:45] <Guest72489> Hi
[18:45] <alankila> MikeWatt: 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[18:45] <MikeWatt> alankila already tryed that. does not fix the problem
[18:46] <alankila> funny, it's supposed to generate the package index afaik
[18:46] <escott> sleax, why are you password protecting grub? whats the point of that?
[18:47] <sleax> nothing of particular, just more security
[18:47] <rhizmoe> so, i'm trying to troubleshoot some GUI lagginess, is a nvidia 8400GS too wimpy for unity?
[18:48] <escott> sleax, putting a password on grub does nothing for security. unless you mean you have an encrypted root fileysystem
[18:48] <aleminio>  hey guys, i've got a little problem in my server, when i create a folder or even when i copy one a folder to another destination from the CLI, I'm unable then uploading files to that folder using ftp connection from windows, it says permission denied, even tho the chmod is set to 755. but if i create a folder from my frp manager, it works fine... why is that happening and how can i fix it?
[18:48] <aleminio> copiying thousands of files with my ftp manager takes hours while using the cp command takes a minute, but then i'm getting this problem...
[18:48] <rhizmoe> or might it be my i5-2400?
[18:49] <rhizmoe> aleminio: you're connecting via ftp, creating the directory on the other side, then trying to copy to it?
[18:49] <mouth1> Hi, I have a problem. The Ubuntu desktop freezes in a way, that I can still type, do everything on the keyboard but the mouse doesn't work. I can move it around but it doesn't highlight anything in the launcher and the mouse buttons don't do anything. Can anybody please help me?
[18:49] <sleax> i know,with a live distro you can same mount the fs
[18:49] <sleax> however, yes i've my root fs encrypted
[18:49] <rhizmoe> aleminio: in other words, creating the dir underneath the ftp session?
[18:50] <alankila> rhizmoe: nah, the i5 should be plenty fast enough
[18:51] <alankila> the 8400 sounds dated though... iirc I had one of those and it must have been 5+ years ago
[18:53] <rhizmoe> alankila: it might indeed be that old
[18:53] <escott> rhizmoe, lagginess is also one of those things that isn't the most meaningful.
[18:54] <rhizmoe> i know, totally subjective. everything else is less than a year old though. 16G ram, current mobo
[18:54] <alankila> the i5 should have embedded gpu, you might try that instead
[18:55] <fishbait> i moved my swap partition and now my hibernate doesn't work. i created a swap on drive i wan, swapon, swapoff the one on the old drive the delete and resize to fill the unallocated space.
[18:55] <rhizmoe> mobo doesn't have graphics
[18:55] <mouth1> Anyone has the Samsung NC10 Plus?
[18:55] <fishbait> *want,
[18:56] <rhizmoe> intel dp67de
[18:56] <escott> rhizmoe, an i5 should have a graphics process, unless intel disabled it
[18:56] <rhizmoe> this particular mobo does not have monitor ports, even if the cpu has the feature
[18:57] <escott> fishbait, (a) there could be issues having the swap on another disk (b) you may need to update some configs in /etc to tell the kernel and initrd to check that location (c) you might need to run update-initramfs as well
[18:57] <mouth1> Is Unity2D faster on slow hardware than Unity3D?
[18:57] <escott> rhizmoe, then you just need a soddering iron. what could possibly go wrong
[18:57] <GrandCouillon> hello guys ! I've got a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome classic : when I start a program its window doesn't come on top of the others. It remains on last Z position. Any idea ?
[18:57] <kyew> q/uit
[18:57] <fishbait> what configs?
[18:58] <zykotick9> escott: i'd think updating fstab would be all that's required to have swap on another drive
[18:58] <fishbait> hmm ok i'll check fstab
[18:58] <rhizmoe> escott: :)
[18:58] <escott> zykotick9, for the swap yes, but for pm-hibernate
[18:58] <rhizmoe> it seems tell-tale that i can't find which level of PCIe this card has. might be 1x!
[18:58] <zykotick9> escott: that i wouldn't know - only system i use pm-hibernate on, has swap on the same drive ;)
[18:59] <aaas> how do i find the version of a parituclar package using apt?
[19:00] <rhizmoe> "PCIe 2.0"
[19:00] <fishbait> how do i find the uuid of the swap partition
[19:00] <escott> fishbait, sudo blkid
[19:00] <rhizmoe> aaas: installed or not-installed? apt-cache, generally
[19:00] <aaas> rhizmoe installed
[19:00] <fishbait> ty
[19:01] <aaas> rhizmoe ok found it apt-cache showpkg ...
[19:01] <aaas> thanks
[19:02] <enigmuriatic> can anyone link me to an article that gives a concise description of the ./insertfilenamehere thing in the terminal?
[19:02] <fishbait> okay the uuid in fstab for swap doesn't match sudo blkid
[19:02] <rhizmoe> aaas: also the --installed flag
[19:02] <enigmuriatic> does adding the dot just cause it to search for the file?
[19:02] <rhizmoe> enigmuriatic: what do you mean, "thing?"
[19:02] <rhizmoe> enigmuriatic: first period is the current director
[19:02] <rhizmoe> y
[19:02] <dr_willis> enigmuriatic: its just the path to the binary
[19:02] <escott> enigmuriatic, .=current directory /=directory separater filename=filename
[19:03] <rhizmoe> .. = parent directory
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> the binary?
[19:03] <rhizmoe> forget about the binary
[19:03] <rhizmoe> one period is current directory, two is parent
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> ah, great, thanks
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> i don't see the point of using it then, lol
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> considering you can reference the current directory without it
[19:03] <dr_willis> about the only time you use ./foo is to run foo
[19:04] <rhizmoe> enigmuriatic: it's to lock down the path, in case there is another foo somewhere else in your path
[19:04] <fishbait> okay corrected that little hiccup
[19:04] <dr_willis> to run the file.. it makes senve
[19:04] <enigmuriatic> ah i see. thanks
[19:04] <dr_willis> sence
[19:04] <fishbait> now to try pm-hibernate again
[19:04] <xcerca> Hey
[19:04] <dr_willis> why i called it a binary. ;)
[19:05] <rhizmoe> "It is a computing tradition that all concepts, whenever possible, must be explained through a complicated car analogy."
[19:05] <fishbait> epic fail it blinked
[19:06] <xcerca> is there much difference between Gnome3 out of the box, and Ubuntu Unity Desktop ?
[19:06] <fishbait> would dmesg | grep -i hiberbation be useful?
[19:06] <SDX> Just the desktop environment for the most part.
[19:07] <SDX> I think Unity is built on Gnome.
[19:07] <alankila> xcerca: they are different things. I use gnome3 myself because it gets more out of the way, I think
[19:07] <dr_willis> gnome shell is quite different from unity
[19:07] <fishbait> how do i read this things time
[19:07] <dr_willis> both are shells for gnome3
[19:08] <alankila> I wish the common unity menu and merging of the window title with the top bar would catch on though
[19:08] <fishbait> hmm i should reboot it just occured to me that i edited the swap in an fstab that hasn't been loaded yet
[19:08] <mputtr> so iw as able to access my linux box via nomachine setting it to gnome, but when i enter, i get a blank desktop and I can't do anything on it... am i screwing something up?
[19:08] <alankila> also fullscreen apps show some issues with gnome, sometimes the hot top left corner stops responding and sometimes I see the panel on top of the fullscreen window. Clearly not quite there.
[19:08] <dr_willis> thasts the 'global menu' ;)
[19:09] <alankila> not fullscreen it works, though.
[19:10] <dr_willis> mputtr:  try a different desktop/window maganer as a test. like fluxbox, or icewm
[19:10] <mputtr> on windows?
[19:10] <dr_willis> the desktop runs on linux side
[19:10] <dr_willis> the client is on windows side
[19:10] <mputtr> yup
[19:10] <dr_willis> to view the desktop
[19:11] <dr_willis> so try icewm desktop instead of gnome/unity
[19:11] <dr_willis> as a test. to see if the freenx is working right
[19:11] <dr_willis> its possible unity dont like freenx
[19:11] <mputtr> i c
[19:11] <fishbait_> okay back gonna try pm-hibernate
[19:12] <mputtr> i actually ended up using the nomachine server i can access the server, just can't do anything on it. i'm reading up on icewm and goign to see what to do
[19:12] <dr_willis> for a remote desktop - a minimal wm/desktop will be more responsive also
[19:12] <Devilz> hello everyone...i edited the squid.conf file as required which is running fine when i test it using squidclient command in terminal but i want to test squid through browser also can anyone tell me how to do that...thanks
[19:13] <dr_willis> icewm is just a nice old skool wm to test with. theres a dozen others you could use
[19:13] <mputtr> dr_willis: yeah, that's what i want to do
[19:13] <mputtr> it would probalby be the easiest if i can just directly access whatever my box is seeing... but mainly i just want to be able to control the box from a different computer
[19:13] <escott> dr_willis, who needs a window manager to test with, just start an xterm
[19:14] <escott> dr_willis, mice and guis are for wimps
[19:14] <dr_willis> easier to install a wm and select it in the session menus
[19:15] <fishbait> okay it worked
[19:15] <fishbait> now to check for any errors in the logs
[19:16] <fishbait> how do i read this timestamp 1.141530
[19:17] <escott> fishbait, seconds after boot
[19:17] <dr_willis> ive never figured those out either. ;)
[19:17] <D3RGPS31> just installed 12.04 on my netbook, asus 1215n-pu17; internal keyboard and mouse don't work, external does
[19:18] <escott> unless you have the stardate patch
[19:18] <dr_willis> nerd time. ;)
[19:19] <fishbait> it says  [    1.141530] PM:   hibernation  image not present or could not be loaded
[19:19] <Sorinan> There's a PPA for the kernels avaliable at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4-precise/ ?
[19:19] <morsnowski> so I have a question that isn't exactly off topic but I'm not sure where it fits in. Today I copied 2 jrr Tolkien audiobooks from a usb stick to disk. I'm running 12.04 pretty much out of the box. Now I have ad's from google and facebook for tolkien audiobooks.
[19:19]  * D3RGPS31 My-my-my-my errors hit me, so hard, makes me say 'Oh My Stallman'
[19:19] <Sorinan> the ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa seems to be extremely outdated
[19:19] <mputtr> well... i changed it to XDM and i can now see the desktop.. but still no dock or anything else
[19:19] <morsnowski> OK forget to ask a question, who the f*** do they spot lokal transactions?
[19:20] <morsnowski> well how rather than who
[19:20] <BlueEagle> fishbait: Then the hibernation image is not present or it could not be loaded for another reason.
[19:20] <fishbait> how do i track this down
[19:20] <escott> fishbait, did you update-initramfs?
[19:20] <modernrob> morsnowski: adblock and history eraser will take care of that
[19:20] <fishbait> no i'll try it
[19:21] <dr_willis> 'i would guess its from things you did in the browser. not files in your home. ;)
[19:21] <morsnowski> modernrob, that doesn't anwser the question how they get hold of my local file transactions
[19:21] <BlueEagle> fishbait: Well you would need to look to where the initrd is attempting to locate the hibernation image and check if that location is the same when the hibernation image is created as when the initrd is running. I have seen issues earlier where a USB-drive was enoug to make the initrd not locate the hibernation file.
[19:21] <dr_willis> morsnowski:  i doubt if they did
[19:21] <morsnowski> nope dr_willis that was pure local
[19:21] <mputtr> somehow i can access the desktop but not the dock or the top bar via CDE... but i still can't see a way to bring up the dock
[19:21] <lduros> changing the session in lightdm.conf doesn't work?
[19:22] <fishbait> this was after changing the loaction of swap partition
[19:22] <BlueEagle> fishbait: Mind you that this was a couple of kernels ago, and I no longer hibernate as I have an SSD that takes 0.4 seconds to boot (benchmark is not verifiable) :P
[19:22] <morsnowski> it's here in front of me and I most certainly didn't use the browser to copy files and haven't looked for jrr stuff in ages
[19:22] <on3pk> So, an interesting thing happened.  I tried the Ubuntu 12.04 LiveCD and it forces me to use a rotated display on my external monitor
[19:23] <dr_willis> morsnowski:  or they been tracking your browser to look at ismiler asites/books/things and its a cincendance
[19:23] <escott> on3pk, forces?
[19:23] <fishbait> okay it sucessful
[19:23] <morsnowski> well from FB and google at the same day ?
[19:23] <on3pk> escott, or, rather, the only display options under 'rotation' are Clockwise and Counterclockwise
[19:23] <fishbait> gonna try pm-hibernate again will report back the results
[19:24] <dr_willis> morsnowski:  it can happen. sites share info for targeted ads
[19:24] <BlueEagle> fishbait: I'll find something to cross while you're at it.
[19:24] <morsnowski> dr_willis, i'll keep an eye out for that but i found that scary
[19:24] <Abhijit> hi. while installing any new application from terminal, ubuntu ask me to do dpkg --configure -a and then it start downlaoding flash plugin. but it do not show any progress bar or %. how do i know that its not hang and it is actually downloading something? or how do i just completely remove this error so that i can install any new  applications smoothly? help please.
[19:24] <dr_willis> really good when the wife uses your system - then you get ads for stuff targeted to her..
[19:25] <dr_willis> adblock is my friend. ;)
[19:25] <CellTech> Has anyone here rooted an android on ubuntu or xubuntu?
[19:25] <on3pk> it uses the intel 945 chipset... I couldn't find much about this with Google... has anyone heard of this before?
[19:27] <Abhijit> hi. while installing any new application from terminal, ubuntu ask me to do dpkg --configure -a and then it start downlaoding flash plugin "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz" . but it do not show any progress bar or %. how do i know that its not hang and it is actually downloading something? or how do i just completely remove this error so that
[19:27] <Abhijit>  i can install any new  applications smoothly? help please.
[19:27] <fishbait_> mmm perhaps i should try rebooting
[19:27] <theom3ga> I used to have windows installed in a partition, but I deleted all the files from it. However, grub keeps detecting it
[19:28] <theom3ga> how can I avoid that?
[19:28] <dr_willis> rerun update-grub theom3ga ?
[19:29] <escott> theom3ga, you can see what os'es are being detected with os-prober
[19:29] <theom3ga> dr_willis: I re-run it and it keeps saying Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[19:29] <escott> theom3ga, did you just delete the files in /dev/sda1
[19:29] <cek> Battery indicator visibility settings not saved using sys config util!
[19:29] <theom3ga> escott: it says /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[19:29] <mputtr> if i wanted to access the desktop that is on my linux box.... how would i go about doing that?
[19:29] <cek> the option "show battery status in menu bar" in particular. What's up with that?
[19:29] <mputtr> via windows
[19:29] <theom3ga> escott: yep, deleted all of them (not formatted, there are some files I need to keep that have nothing to do with windows)
[19:29] <dr_willis> you could chmod -x the osprober script in /etc/grub.d
[19:30] <escott> theom3ga, you probably need to reformat
[19:30] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:31] <escott> theom3ga, also its a VERY BAD idea to be using NTFS without a windows system to fsck it
[19:31] <theom3ga> escott: the thing is that I have a windows system in other HD
[19:31] <escott> theom3ga, as long as you have one somewhere
[19:37] <mputtr> damn.. i can't seem to bring up the dock or top bar...
[19:37] <mputtr> am i missing something
[19:38] <escott> mputtr, what do you have in your nx config at the moment
[19:38] <mputtr> Desktop: Unix -- GNOME
[19:39] <escott> mputtr, hard to say what that means
[19:39] <mputtr> display is 1024X768. disabled encryption of all traffic
[19:39] <mputtr> but apart form that, everything is default
[19:39] <MateoDeMateo_> i'm having some trouble getting a desktop/gui/gnome running on a stripped down ubuntu 10.04 lts
[19:40] <mputtr> i was suggested to install kubuntu desktop
[19:40] <mputtr> i dont know if that would show the who gui
[19:40] <rublind> I'm having some major networking trouble, and I'm not sure if it's my router or my ubuntu installation. Anyone have a second to help?
[19:40] <MateoDeMateo_> i know it's not ideal to run a gui on a server, but i'm still working on the whole remote vnc thing
[19:41] <escott> MateoDeMateo_, what vnc server are you using?
[19:41] <fishbait> my swap uuid is verified to be correct how do i go about tracking down what is causing it not to hibernate?
[19:41] <CellTech> Why is my channel list not letting me into another room
[19:41] <MateoDeMateo_> mputtr: i ran "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and "apt-get install "gnome-desktop-enviromnet", but no gui runs
[19:41] <escott> mputtr, and what do you see on the other machine?
[19:41] <mputtr> escott: i see the desktop, but no dock, no top menu
[19:42] <MateoDeMateo_> escott: i'm not
[19:42] <escott> mputtr, what do you mean "the desktop"
[19:42] <mputtr> basically just the background with a single file that i have on the desktop
[19:42] <mputtr> but i'm literally not seeing anything else
[19:43] <mputtr> imagine ubuntu's default desktop but remove the side bar and the top bar. that's all i see
[19:43] <mputtr> i can't even hit alt f2 to bring up the side bar
[19:43] <escott> mputtr, why dont you right click and say create new folder. then click on that folder, then navigate to /usr/bin and find gnome-terminal and double click on that
[19:43] <mputtr> ok im going to do that right now
[19:44] <fishbait> i can't hibernate after having moved my swap file
[19:44] <fishbait> to a different physical drive
[19:45] <mputtr> ok
[19:45] <mputtr> i see the terminal
[19:45] <escott> fishbait, i wonder if that is even supported. what else is there in dmesg around that message that it cant find the image
[19:45] <fishbait> nothing
[19:45] <fishbait> thats the only message
[19:45] <escott> mputtr, now we can have some fun. how about ps aux | grep unity or ps aux | grep compiz
[19:46] <fishbait> and its now 1.165512
[19:46] <escott> fishbait, your entire dmesg is the one message?
[19:46] <escott> fishbait, that makes no sense
[19:46] <fishbait> no no no i dmesg | grep -i hibernation
[19:46] <mputtr> escott: this is probalby going to cause you to facepalm.. but how do i do the bar thingyou did btween aux and grep
[19:46] <escott> fishbait, i want context dmesg | grep -C20 -i hibernat
[19:47] <Logos01> Greetings. I am attempting to install kernel 3.5.0rc3 from kernel.ubuntu.com -- but my nVidia graphics driver is erroring out. When I look into the /usr/lib/modules/3.5.0.. directory, I notice there is no "sources" subdirectory. Where could I acquire this?
[19:47] <fishbait> okay
[19:47] <escott> mputtr, usually shift \ which is just above the enter
[19:47] <Logos01> This is for kernels located at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/..
[19:47] <mputtr> ahhh
[19:47] <fishbait> i installed pastebinit do i do pastebinit | command?
[19:47] <escott> mputtr, thats ok. i remember thinking (many years ago) what is this | character?
[19:47] <lduros> could anybody tell me how to switch from ubuntu to xubuntu session only from ssh? I tried to change lightdm.conf but it did not have an effect
[19:47] <mputtr> ok, so i see a bunch of numbers paths
[19:48] <Logos01> fishbait: No, you do command | pastebinit
[19:48] <escott> fishbait, the reverse command | pastebinit
[19:48] <fishbait> okay
[19:48] <mputtr> my keyboard shows | with a break in the middle.. that's why i had no idea how to do that symbol
[19:48] <rublind> anyone know what the command to flush the routes are?
[19:48] <escott> mputtr, ignore any lines that include "grep" but do any of those show?
[19:49] <fishbait> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046083 the results
[19:49] <mputtr> this is what i see http://pastebin.com/JnZ7nitY
[19:50] <Logos01> Anyone? I am attempting to install kernel 3.5.0rc3 from kernel.ubuntu.com -- but my nVidia graphics driver is erroring out. When I look into the /usr/lib/modules/3.5.0.. directory, I notice there is no "sources" subdirectory. Where could I acquire this?
[19:50] <escott> fishbait, -C not -c cApITAlizaTIOn is importANt
[19:50] <fishbait> ah ty
[19:51] <mputtr> this is what i see when i tried ps aux | grep compiz http://pastebin.com/rjkChV4A
[19:51] <fishbait> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046087 the results
[19:51] <mputtr> without the grep line
[19:51] <tgm4883> is there an api for paste.ubuntu.com?
[19:52] <Logos01> ... am I even being read here? Are my messages getting through?
[19:52] <escott> mputtr, sounds like unity is running, but the issue is probably that you dont have GLX on the NX session or that something about it doesnt work. you might want to install gnome-panel or unity-2d and try to configure those to be default sessions
[19:52] <mputtr> ok so install gnome-panel
[19:52] <tgm4883> Logos01, yes
[19:53] <Logos01> Lovely. Well, at least it's not that then.
[19:53] <mputtr> i'm assuming with gnome panel i can actually directly control the desktop?
[19:53] <Logos01> I guess nobody in here has a clue how to help me then?
[19:53] <tgm4883> Logos01, I just joined, so I don't know what your question was
[19:53] <cek> how do I change the step of birghteness change?
[19:54] <escott> fishbait, you can see at the bottom of that message that ATA is being brought up AFTER pm hibernate gives up searching. you would have to do something to tell pm-hibernate to look on another disk or to wait a bit longer to search on other disks
[19:54] <Logos01> tgm4883: I've asked it a couple of times now. Hold on I'll repost.
[19:54] <fishbait> how do i do that?
[19:54] <Logos01> I am attempting to install kernel 3.5.0rc3 from kernel.ubuntu.com -- but my nVidia graphics driver is erroring out. When I look into the /usr/lib/modules/3.5.0.. directory, I notice there is no "sources" subdirectory. Where could I acquire this?
[19:55] <escott> fishbait, no idea, there might be a kernel arg, but you will need to check the pm-hibernate documentation
[19:55] <fishbait> okay
[19:55] <mputtr> ok so ii just installed gnome desktop.. i'm going to have to figure out where gnome desktop is or how to configure it
[19:56] <tgm4883> Logos01, heh, yea you probably are going to have issues getting help with that in this channel
[19:56] <Logos01> mputtr: /usr/bin/gnome-panel, IIRC.
[19:56] <Logos01> tgm4883: Yeah, that's been my experience in general when it comes to #ubuntu. Pretty low on the competence threshold.
[19:57] <tgm4883> Logos01, well this channel is for general support
[19:57] <mputtr> oh sweet... now i see the top and bottom bars
[19:57] <Logos01> mputtr: (I may not but an ls /usr/bin | grep panel would get you more information.)
[19:57] <tgm4883> you're asking a pretty specific technical question
[19:58] <Logos01> tgm4883: Yeah well. The very notion that the kernel sources is a "pretty specific technical question" as opposed to "general support" is exactly what I mean.
[19:58] <tgm4883> Logos01, perhaps you are looking for #gentoo
[19:58] <escott> Logos01, but he needs a session manager as well. mputtr needs to make some kind of reference to an Xsession.d session
[19:58] <Logos01> tgm4883: You sir are being unnecessarily assholish.
[19:58] <Logos01> There is no call for that.
[19:58] <escott> !language | Logos01
[19:58] <tgm4883> Logos01, and you are asking a question that wouldn't fall under generic support for any distro
[19:58] <mputtr> escott: is nomachine not a session manager?
[19:59] <Logos01> escott: Grow up.
[19:59] <Logos01> tgm4883: "Where do I get the kernel sources for this kernel packaged by this distro" isn't generic support?
[19:59] <Logos01> Since when?
[19:59] <escott> Logos01, these are the rules of the channel. if you dont want to follow them please leave
[19:59] <Logos01> Dammit, I knew there was a reason I thought this channel was fucking beyond help.
[19:59] <escott> mputtr, no its not
[19:59] <tgm4883> Logos01, is that something a normal user would do?
[19:59]  * tgm4883 sighs
[20:00] <mputtr> escott: ok. so i have to look up xsession.d
[20:00] <rublind> I'm having trouble reaching the outside world from my ubuntu machine. any suggestions on what to look out for?
[20:00] <mputtr> all i want to do is to be able to access wahtever my main desktop is seeing... nomachine seems to create a separate session, but i can access the dash or anyting else
[20:01] <escott> mputtr, the NX config should reference in some form, sessions defined in xsession.d. its not something i am at all familiar with. it would be easier to have NX start a display manager like lightdm or xdm and pick a session
[20:01] <medotyou> aweh
[20:01] <claire> rublind: could you define 'trouble'
[20:01] <escott> mputtr, its a completely different display from what might be on a monitor (if one is attached to the computer). if you want to access a session running on a physically connected monitor you need to be using vnc
[20:02] <rublind> claire: I can't curl google, I can't ping google, I CAN dig google. but I can ssh from local network.
[20:02] <mputtr> escott: so vnc is the only way to access the desktop that would've been outputted to a monitor?
[20:02] <escott> rublind, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:02] <rublind> escott: tried that, nope.
[20:02] <escott> mputtr, not the only way, but the easiest
[20:02] <mputtr> i c
[20:02] <claire> rublind: what about other than google?
[20:03] <escott> mputtr, vnc runs on top of X, NX runs in place of X
[20:03] <mputtr> i know that vnc is a little slow because they're screenshots that are constantly refreshed
[20:03] <rublind> claire: nope.
[20:03] <mputtr> escott: oh ok
[20:03] <claire> rublind: can you www yahoo or any other
[20:03] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/2dead9.png
[20:03] <matthewlawson3> Guys how do you setup networking between WIndows 7 and Ubuntu
[20:03] <escott> mputtr, and Xvnc runs a specialized version of X to be closer to what NX does
[20:03] <rublind> claire: nope. =/
[20:04] <mputtr> escott: i'll see if i can try out xvnc instead then
[20:04] <claire> rublind: ip ro li
[20:04] <escott> mputtr, VNC should not be "slow" on a local network with enough bandwith
[20:04] <claire> and past the result
[20:04] <mputtr> the purpose of this linux box is so that i can use it as a media storage/playback
[20:04] <escott> rublind, then can you ping your gateway?
[20:04] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/51a887.png
[20:04] <rublind> escott: yes.
[20:04] <mputtr> it'll be connected to the TV for playback as well as store data. but i also want to be able to directly control it from any computer from anywhere
[20:05] <rublind> escott: I'm connected to it via ssh on the same network, so it can talk to the gateway.
[20:05] <escott> mputtr, you have to decide (a) do you need full desktop or only one off applications (b) do you need session persistence (ie you close the window, and start it again and its still there) (c) do you need to access the same session on the physically connected monitor or a new session
[20:05] <mputtr> c
[20:06] <rublind> mputtr: are you going to use something like xbmc or plex? if so, they have their own remotes which should be able to anything without needing to vnc
[20:06] <matthewlawson3> Need help networking Ubuntu Linux to Windows 7
[20:06] <mputtr> rublind: i do plan on getting xbmc/plex as well. but i'm also going to be running zone minder
[20:06] <escott> mputtr, if your answers are "full desktop" "yes" and "same session" then you need to login and start vino, then connect with vnc to vino
[20:07] <mputtr> vino and vnc to vino.
[20:07] <mputtr> ok, i'm going to see what i can do
[20:07] <rublind> so escott, claire any ideas? I'm kind of stumped.
[20:08] <escott> rublind, sounds like you have tried most of the things i would have tried
[20:08] <rublind> escott: I guess that's both good news and bad :p
[20:09] <MikkelPaulson> hey folks, server question: is it possible to forward traffic on a specific port to a remote IP? I'm setting up a Minecraft server on my home computer, but I want people to connect via my Ubuntu VPS IP
[20:09] <claire> rublind: your dns works but not routing
[20:09] <claire> you might be beside a missconfigured firewall
[20:09] <rublind> claire: yeah, but the routes look correct, which is wierd
[20:10] <MikkelPaulson> ideally I'd be able to manage/log/block IPs from my Minecraft server, but that seems unlikely
[20:10] <escott> !ics | MikkelPaulson with some iptables rules
[20:10] <claire> or a dons proxy but no routing
[20:10] <sgarfio> Hi, first time visitor here.  I need to install Ubuntu on a friend's netbook with a 3.8 GB internal flash drive, but the installer says I need at least 4.2 GB to install it.  I keep seeing references to an "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" that sounds hopeful, but I don't see where to actually download it. The Ubuntu Downloads page only has links for Desktop (which is what I attempted to install), Server, and Cloud.  Any suggestions?
[20:10] <dcw329> to block ip's on a minecraft server you need to go int othe minecraft server folder
[20:10] <dcw329> and you can set up a black list
[20:10] <rublind> claire: no proxying going on. at least their shouldn't be. I always have routing issues after a kernel update. but this is the worst it's ever been =(
[20:10] <escott> sgarfio, netbook remix was folded into mainline with 11.04
[20:11] <MikkelPaulson> yeah, but if all traffic is being forwarded from the VPS, all traffic on the Minecraft server will appear to come from that IP, no?
[20:11] <dcw329> you can block individual users
[20:11] <claire> rublind: what is your setup: xDSL -> kind of box -> WiFi/LAN -> computer ?
[20:11] <dcw329> that person's account will no longer be able to join your server
[20:12] <MikkelPaulson> that's true
[20:12] <Nach0z> hey guys, question for you: I have a set of USB headphones here, and they ship with Windows drivers but no Linux drivers, how do I register USB headphones as a sound device in Ubuntu?
[20:12] <dcw329> go to minecraft server>band-players
[20:12] <rublind> claire: not sure I fully understand but I have AT&T uVerse, with a crappy 2Wire router. the ubuntu machine is hardwired and connected via wireless to that router.
[20:12] <MikkelPaulson> okay, thanks for the help, folks
[20:12] <MikkelPaulson> guess that's my excuse to learn more about iptables
[20:12] <dcw329> well, to solve the problem, that will do it. just ban the player
[20:13] <sgarfio> Bummer.  Is there a way I can get one of the 10.x distributions?  I do have a CD with 11.x on it but that also seems to require 4.2 GB also.
[20:13] <dcw329> i understand the desire to learn more, and just use it as an exuse
[20:13] <escott> MikkelPaulson, you could also do an ssh tunnel. that might be easier to setup
[20:13] <dcw329> im just not sure how to do tha tparticulare setup
[20:13] <MikkelPaulson> escott: that was my first idea, but the documentation I found online all discussed it as a client thing rather than a server thing
[20:13] <dcw329> i plan on actually dialing into my computer with an SSH connection on ubuntu and run my server from clients around net
[20:14] <Jonii_> Hey, you know how to use network printer that's in windows network when I'm using ubuntu?
[20:14] <claire> rublind: did you try to restart the router?
[20:14] <dcw329> and then develop an android app to be a client and send commands to my server
[20:14] <rublind> claire: yep, and it works for a few minutes and then stops.
[20:14] <rublind> claire: you thinking it might be a problem with the router?
[20:14] <Jonii_> Based on my google search, I'd have to guess it's impossible as no one seems to be ever even attempting on doing it
[20:14] <dcw329> nothing is impossible
[20:14] <dcw329> this is linux
[20:15] <MikkelPaulson> QOTD
[20:15] <escott> Jonii_, i imagine you would have to install samba. but you can also check https://localhost:631 and see if it can be configured there
[20:16] <claire> rublind: it could. It is either your router (i assume you cannot change its routing / firewall config) ao
[20:16] <claire> rublind: or your routing table. result of "ip ro li" from the shell of your computer would help
[20:16] <BlueEagle> Jonii_: I googled "cups windows print server" and the 2nd link is: Print from Linux to Windows Server
[20:17] <claire> rublind: are you connected through that router just now ?
[20:17] <claire> rublind: I mean for chatting
[20:17] <BlueEagle> Jonii_: http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/print_from_linux_to_windows_server.html
[20:17] <rublind> claire: yeah, lemme get you the netstat -rn version, since OS X doesn't have ip or route
[20:17] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/adbadd.png
[20:18] <sandbags> Hi there. Can anyone tell me what package I should install to get the /usr/share/dict/words file? Or where it might be on 10.04 (I also checked /usr/dict)
[20:18] <escott> !find /usr/share/dict/words 10.04
[20:19] <escott> !find /usr/share/dict/words lucid
[20:19] <claire> rublind: I missed something, where is the linux, where is the OSX ?
[20:19] <sandbags> escott: thanks
[20:19] <escott> sandbags, ^^^
[20:19] <kerni094> hi i have a big problem
[20:19] <rublind> claire: I'm chatting from OSX, which is where the last screenshot is from. it's connected to the same router.
[20:19] <BlueEagle> kerni094: My feet are itchy. What's your problem?
[20:20] <kerni094> i just installed ubuntu but in the end there was an error that grub couldnt be installed
[20:20] <kerni094> what should i do now?
[20:20] <deepspeed> so go install grub
[20:20] <kerni094> my pc isnt booting
[20:20] <deepspeed> use a live distro
[20:20] <deepspeed> knoppix is great
[20:20] <escott> kerni094, boot the install cd again. pick "try ubuntu"
[20:21] <kerni094> okay i will try this
[20:21] <sandbags> !find /etc/dictionaries-common/words lucid
[20:21] <deepspeed> or just re-install, but then you gotta re-write ALL the date to your hard drive.
[20:21] <mputtr> holy sweet awesomeness
[20:21] <deepspeed> data*
[20:21] <BlueEagle> kerni094: I suggest you boot the liveCD, mount the installed filesystem including dev- and sys-binds and chroot to that root partition and do a dpkg-reconfigure grub2
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  finally get it working?
[20:21] <claire> rublind: so you have DSL with WiFi and Ethernet. Two computer: OSX and Linux. => Both using WiFi? <=
[20:21] <mputtr> i just got the side dash to pop up.. i just had to add a line
[20:21] <mputtr> gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d
[20:21] <sandbags> okay this is puzzling. Installing dictionaries-common gave me 'words' as a symlink to a non-existent file /etc/dictionaries-common/words !
[20:21] <deepspeed> Listen to BlueEagle
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  so freenx does not like Unity-3d eh?
[20:21] <mputtr> so i had to set the desktop environment as custom and tell it to run that command
[20:21] <rublind> claire: correct. the Linux one is _also_ hardwired with ethernet.
[20:21] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: seems like it :(
[20:21] <sandbags> what am i missing?
[20:22] <escott> sandbags, what about wamerican
[20:22] <sandbags> ah presumably i need wamerican as well
[20:22] <sandbags> escott: yeah, just figured it out :)
[20:22] <mputtr> now i just have to figure out if i can access the desktop that is outputted to the dispaly
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  you mean the desktop in use on the remote box. Like vnc does on windows.
[20:23] <mputtr> this is fantastic.. all it needed was a single command line XD
[20:23] <claire> rublind: Does this means that when you update the Linux box you have trouble on both Linux and OSX ?
[20:23] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: yeah... that's just icing though
[20:23] <rublind> claire: no, when I update the Linux box, I only have trouble on Linux.
[20:23] <rublind> claire: OSX never has trouble.
[20:23] <mputtr> i got the core working, now i just want to learn how to add the meat and fats to the system XD
[20:23] <rublind> (in that regard, at least :p)
[20:23] <BlueEagle> kerni094: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/ should help you quite a long way.
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  id bet its faster to not have it displayed there. :) unless you need a shared desktop feature
[20:24] <mputtr> well, i was hoping to be able to control the desktop so i can have it run media files and stuff when it's connected to the tv :)
[20:24] <claire> rublind is applefanboy...
[20:24] <mputtr> since this box will be connected to the tv
[20:24] <rublind> claire: nah, not a fan boy, just a user.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  vlc and otehr players can have remote control features.
[20:24] <escott> mputtr, from NX  i dont think you can (at least not with a standard configuration) because NX creates its own X server
[20:24] <claire> rublind: so may I have the output of 'ip ro li' from the linux box?
[20:25] <BlueEagle> !msg > kerni094
[20:25] <mputtr> escott: got it. it creates a separate environment  from waht is outputted
[20:25] <escott> mputtr, but you can point NX at localhost:0.0 and it should be ok
[20:25] <rublind> claire: I sent that earlier, but here it is againhttp://my.di.af/22b530.png
[20:25] <claire> rublind: i am a user too
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  if you have a smart phone. thers vlc, an boxee and xbmc and other remote-apps to controll the differnt players
[20:25] <rublind> claire: but not a fan? :p
[20:25] <Hetep-AFK> hola, is sound juicer for ripping cd's?
[20:25] <mputtr> ah. that's cool. i just want to be able to make the output desktop to play stuff on the tv..
[20:26] <deepspeed> Hetep-AFK,  try googling it...
[20:26] <mputtr> otherwise i can just have it run as a 3rd monitor for my windows machine
[20:26] <mputtr> i'm going to try xbmc or plex for media server
[20:26] <ironhalik> Hello guys
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> plex is nice. but i dont think it has a media center on linux like it does on widnows
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> xbmc or boxee are related to plex. and can use the plex media server nicely
[20:27] <ironhalik> Ive got a problem - after I restore my PC from sleep, ubuntu wont display anything. The backlight is on, I can enter my password etc, but the screen is black
[20:27] <claire> rublind: i am Linuxfanboy, but realistic... So try disconecting the linux box from WiFi
[20:28] <claire> rublind: You might have a conflict between the two networks
[20:28] <rublind> claire: heh -- I've tried to do sudo ifdown wlan0, but it complains
[20:28] <oid> Iron try crtl+alt+f1
[20:28] <rublind> claire: it says "ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured"
[20:28] <claire> rublind: than sudo ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> down
[20:28] <ironhalik> oid: yeah, it works - I can login and kill lightdm, start it again and it works
[20:29] <mputtr> i c
[20:29] <claire> and check that the is no more wlan0 in ip ro li
[20:29] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: so i get plex server and us xbmc for playback
[20:29] <oid> Sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:29]  * Tuxedage looks around
[20:29]  * Tuxedage gets scared
[20:30] <rublind> claire: I did that, and I can curl google again, but wlan0 is still showing up (seemingly active) with ifconfig...
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  yea. most video players can see the plex upnp server.  Unless you really need the  fancyness you are not loseing out  by useing vlc or other players
[20:30] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: got it
[20:31] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: one more question. is there a way for me to be able to access my server when it is shut down or when I force it to restart?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  the fact plex can stream to my android phone is a big plus for me however. ;)
[20:31] <claire> rublind: do you mean that your internet is now working fine? but that ifconfig has the flag UP for wlan0 ?
[20:31] <mputtr> yeah, i think i'm probably going to exploit that feature since i have the hp touchpad with cm9
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  theres the wake on lan feature. but i never use it. I just leave mine on. :)
[20:31] <rublind> claire: yep! I think it's lying to itself.
[20:31] <rublind> claire: thank you for your help, btw :)
[20:32] <claire> rublind: or you have a NetworManager kindof that is trying to setup WiFi again
[20:32] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: i just want to be able to start it up again if something happen like powerloss
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  'gmote' is a neat little streaming service/tool for a pc to android also.  its a lot simplier then plex. Not sure how updated it is.
[20:32] <rublind> claire: maybe. I'm running this headless, but I think unity is running. I don't know how to stop it from the command line.
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  you would have to be on a local lan pc to use wake on lan i imagine.
[20:33] <Garr255> .
[20:33] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: so... i can't do it from somewhere else.. say if i'm halfway around the world?
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  i cant imagine how - without some special hardware or hireing a maid. ;)
[20:34] <claire> rublind: my explanation would be: your box is doing dns proxy (as many) to DNS is working from the local eth0 network. BUT: default routing WAS set to wlan0 ,which was missconfigured. so you could not cross the box
[20:34] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: roflmao understandable..
[20:34] <claire> rublind: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  somne bios's have a 'restart on power off' feature. i thought..  i forget what pc i had - that had that feature.
[20:34] <claire> rublind:  if ubuntu 12.12, otherwise might be gdm or mdm
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  if i unplugged it.. and pluygged it back in. it would power back up.
[20:35] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: another question: if i restart my box (say something went wrong or i need to update stuff when i'm halfway around the world), would i be able to relogin via nx server?
[20:35] <rublind> claire: 12.12? too soon! too soon! I'm using 12.04 but that worked.
[20:35] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: i think i have that feature on my bios. i'll set it to restart then
[20:35] <kerni094> blueeagle: thanks for the link but i dont unterstand it right. that first command should be like this: sudo mount /dev/meda/xx /mnt/myroot right?
[20:35] <rublind> claire: something does keep bringing wlan0 back up though.
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  if nxserver is running . You may as well set it to start up at boot time
[20:35] <GeekAdmin> does ubuntu run on tablets?
[20:35] <mputtr> ok so i have to tell it to run on boot...
[20:35] <__eagle__> hi there
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> GeekAdmin:  theres starting to be some Linux tablets comming out. One is out now i hear with Kubuntu on it.
[20:35] <claire> rublind: "ps ax | grep Netw".  would tell you if it is still here
[20:36] <rublind> claire: yep, NetworkManager is running.
[20:36] <GeekAdmin> Dr_Willis:  but I cant add ubuntu to a tablet?
[20:36] <claire> rublind: "ps ax | grep wpa" you might have wpa_supplicant
[20:36] <__eagle__> dunno how big deal it is for others but been using ubuntu for almost two years and i hated that the launcher is placed on the left. im using ubuntu 12 and is there a way to move it to the bottom of the screen or remove it all together?
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> GeekAdmin:  it would depend on how hacvkable the tablet is.. ive not seen/heard of it done at this time. but it may be doable.
[20:37] <rublind> claire: yep, have that too
[20:37] <claire> rublind: ps afx | more and you might find who
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> GeekAdmin:  theres the #ubuntu-arm channel also.
[20:37] <claire> rublind: you can also try to fix your wifi connection issue
[20:38] <harrrismrubin> does anyone use a wifi mouse
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> wifi mouse? Seen wireless mouses'' but never a wifi one.. only bluetooth, or dedicated dongles..
[20:38] <rublind> claire: yeah, but one thing at a time -- I'm having trouble accessing a web service running on that box from anywhere outside that box. >.<
[20:39] <claire> rublind: including local network? even if WiFi is down?
[20:40] <rublind> claire: yeah, I don't understand it. =|
[20:41] <claire> rublind: on the linux box: netstat -apn | grep :80    and see if the eth0 ip is listed (or <IP_ADDRESS>:80)
[20:41] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: so i went into gnome and to startup preferences
[20:41] <daze> wifi mouse? o_O
[20:42] <daze> is it solving the problem of being 50 meters from the pc? :]
[20:42] <__eagle__> dunno how big deal it is for others but been using ubuntu for almost two years and i hated that the launcher is placed on the left. im using ubuntu 12 and is there a way to move it to the bottom of the screen or remove it all together?
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  theres unofficial hacks to move it to the bottom.
[20:42] <rublind> claire: it's running on <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 (http://my.di.af/635a8c.png) but for some reason I can't get to it.
[20:42] <daze> __eagle__: there is a way to move the launcher to the bottom :]
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  check the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites. ive seen it mentioned there.
[20:42] <__eagle__> where is it? cant find on google
[20:43] <__eagle__> any help on finding a link pls?
[20:43] <mputtr> and... halfway through configuring it.. my darling loving gf just walked by and kicked the powercable out of it....
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> Unofficial and unsupported by us. and last i heard. it was flakey
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  you could just use some other dock at the bottom and set the left side panel to auto hide/be small
[20:43] <daze> __eagle__: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unity+launcher+bottom
[20:43] <Flannel> daze: Don't ever do that again please, thanks.
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> the panel on the left is becomming second nature to me. I even have my windows box set up the same way.
[20:44] <daze> :)
[20:44] <mputtr> well that works.....
[20:44] <Flannel> daze: I'm serious, you will be removed from this channel if you continue to be rude like that.
[20:44] <daze> ok, sorry :]
[20:44] <Daghdha> Hi i am trying to get VirtualBox to suspend a running machine when the host shuts down or reboots. But i can't find a good way
[20:44] <daze> wasn't trying to be rude :|
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  :) you wouldent start the nx server from the users startup preferances anyway normally...
[20:44] <__eagle__> k thnax guys
[20:44] <mputtr> i just litearlly accessed my box via windows before i even logged in on my linux box
[20:44] <Daghdha> Does anyone have this set up?
[20:44] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: XD
[20:44] <frunaz> hey guys
[20:45] <__eagle__> its just too annoying that we are on linux so we are free to control but with this launcher thing we are stuck like applie does
[20:45] <mputtr> ok... so my startup screen is all wierd with a silver colored theme... is that because of kubuntu?
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  You can always use a idffernt desktop. or set up compiz with some other dock.
[20:45] <claire> rublind: from your OSX, ping to Linux is OK? telnet http://<IP_ADDRESS> 8080
[20:46] <rublind> claire: nope, unable to connect to remote host.
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> compiz + awn  is nifty.
[20:46] <rublind> claire: other services running on the same box are fine though.
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[20:46] <frunaz> _eagle_ try xfce DE
[20:46] <__eagle__> k thanx bunch
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> I think Cairo dock even sets up a 'compiz + cairo' session.
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  for old skool theres Lubuntu also.  :)
[20:46] <Daghdha> I found "You could add your command to the file /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default before the exit 0 line."
[20:46] <claire> rublind: firewall on the linuxbox. "iptables -L -nv"
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  what ubuntu release are you using?
[20:47] <Daghdha> 11.04
[20:47] <claire> rublind: do ping to Linux is OK? telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 8080
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  some guides may be outdated with the changes to gnome.  there used to be gnome2 then  ubuntu moved to gnome3 that had differnt config files/layout/options, now 12.04 uses LightDM by default
[20:48] <rublind> claire: firewall is fine, I can get to it from the same box.
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> I think 11.04 uses gdm3
[20:48] <Daghdha> ihave 12.04
[20:48] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: So i can use it?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  then you are using LightDM. so you would need to switch to gdm for those guides to be accurate
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> I dont know if lightdm has similer setting/config files
[20:49] <Daghdha> aw.
[20:49] <claire> rublind: wget http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080  and if no response, then from the linux box: wget http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080 (use curl insead of wget on OSX)
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> i have to wonder How the vm instance knows the host is shutting down...  seems like it would be a race to shut down befor the host does...
[20:50] <rublind> claire: I installed wget on OSX, and it shows "Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:8080... failed: Connection refused."
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> bye al
[20:51] <escott> Daghdha, im with Dr_Willis this doesnt make sense. the proper thing is to modify your shutdown routine to tell the vm to suspend
[20:51] <rublind> claire: and from linux box, doing localhost and <IP_ADDRESS> both show 401 auth failed (which is correct)
[20:51] <escott> Daghdha, not to rely on something weird like the gui on the guest closing
[20:51] <claire> rublind: then firewall again...
[20:52] <Daghdha> escott: I am just googling and finding suggestions
[20:52] <Daghdha> Wheere can i find the shutdown routine?
[20:52] <escott> Daghdha, i would classify anything relying on gdm as a bad suggestion
[20:52] <Hetep-AFK> hola, am having problems with the update. Can a person assist por favor?
[20:52] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/5cd75c.png not from this end >.<
[20:52] <escott> Daghdha, /etc/init/shutdown.conf
[20:53] <claire> rublind: from both linux and OSX: sudo arp -an
[20:54] <claire> results for <IP_ADDRESS> shall match
[20:54] <rublind> claire: OSX => http://my.di.af/8d2532.png, Linux => http://my.di.af/15e783.png
[20:54] <claire> rublind: oh, they do as you can ssh... your python server might refise connection from not local ips
[20:55] <rublind> claire: hm. maybe, it's just weird 'cause it was working pre-reboot.
[20:55] <claire> rublind: if it is some kind of admin server, there might be a setting somewere to prevent connection from local computer
[20:55] <claire> rublind: good point
[20:56] <claire> rublind: I usually miss the 'commit/save changes' after an apply
[20:56] <Daghdha> escott: Can i add a command to that shutdown.conf?
[20:56] <escott> Daghdha, sure
[20:57] <Daghdha> But does this get called before vbox gets the kill signal?
[20:57] <escott> Daghdha, that may not cover all access to shutdown, you may need to do something else to cover other ways of calling shutdown. alternately make your VMs a service and then they will be started and stopped according to whatever routine you want
[20:58] <Daghdha> hmm
[20:58] <rublind> claire: yeah, I checked the config, and rebooted the service several times. it's not working. I'll harass the developers.
[20:58] <rublind> claire: thank you for the help though! :D
[20:59] <claire> rublind: ciso network card... whow!
[20:59] <escott> Daghdha, what method of shutdown are you trying to cover exactly?
[20:59] <Rodi> hi all
[20:59] <claire> rublind: I have to go to bed. good luck
[20:59] <Daghdha> reboots. e.g. most frequently when there are updates that require a reboot.
[21:00] <crond> shutdown
[21:00] <rublind> claire: thank you, have a good night :)
[21:00] <Daghdha> But opreferably all, so the service one sounds like something i could realize
[21:00] <kerni094> hi guys i have a little problem with my ubuntu (again) when i try to start ubuntu nothing happened. so i to start in the safe mode. the starting is blcoked with this error: Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing
[21:00] <escott> Daghdha, right but. you boot normally, login to gui, and start vbox manually? then go to logout->shutdown from the gui or something else
[21:01] <harrrismrubin> is targus a good company
[21:01] <Daghdha> escott: Yes, with the exception that my VMaachine starts automatically
[21:01] <kerni094> any ideas what that could be?
[21:02] <escott> Daghdha, so if you are starting it automatically (and its running headless and doesn't need the gui) then you could make it a service
[21:02] <escott> Daghdha, if it is starting automatically through gnome-session thats a bit different
[21:02] <Daghdha> It is not headless, it shows up on the desktop.
[21:02] <escott> Daghdha, ideally you could make it start headless and then attach to the gui as needed.
[21:03] <Daghdha> ok, so make it a service
[21:03] <escott> Daghdha, that has the added benefit that if X crashes your VM keeps running
[21:09] <kjzz12> Hi all! I have one of those terrible clickpads on my laptop that Ubuntu just added support for this release. Upon boot it works AWESOME. But if I close my laptop (or let it timeout) and sign back in from the lockscreen, the ability to click and drag disappears until I log out and in. Any suggestions?
[21:10] <Daghdha> escott : ok, apparently it was already a service. :/ But i did find a setting in the /etc/default/virtualbox that poweres down t he virtualbox for certain users on shutdown. I changed it to savestate. Fingers crossed :)
[21:13] <Defeatless> join #SOTS
[21:15] <zaitzev> hey guys, I'm having a weird issue with my ubuntu server; the eth connection dies/hangs, I don't know if it's hardware or software related either. I have no idea how to fix it, other than doing a hard reset on the server
[21:16] <zaitzev> I took a couple of photos of the screen.. http://i.imgur.com/oSAkj.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/peTgf.jpg
[21:16] <vampirnata> I've set up my router to forward all traffic on port 443 to my ubuntu box and then set sshd to listen to port 443. Any way I can secure this some more? I only need access to my ubuntu server from LAN and from a certain IP at work.
[21:18] <Iszak> When will it be safe to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[21:18] <zaitzev> right about now?
[21:18] <vampirnata> Do I just add sshd : ALL in hosts.deny and then sshd : <IP_ADDRESS>/24 and sshd : <work ip address>?
[21:19] <vampirnata> in hosts.allow
[21:19] <Iszak> well, I kind of installed 11.10 on a server, so I need to ensure it's safe to upgrade...
[21:19] <zaitzev> I don't see why not
[21:19] <Iszak> zaitzev: well I heard it's not officially supported the migration until .1 when going from LTS to LTS.
[21:20] <zaitzev> okay. I'm no expert so don't take my word for it at all :P
[21:22] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how to debug that?
[21:27] <Indiana>
[21:28] <GNS3Talk> Gents, I installed GNOME CONNECTION MANAGER and when I do the 'which' command, it doesn't show me the location of the program! The program was installed using the Ubuntu Software Centre! Could anybody help?
[21:30] <fishbait> anyone know how to tell pm-hibernate to wait 1/2 a second on resume?
[21:30] <fishbait> the man pages are no help
[21:31] <spendyala> where can I get the source for cd, ls cprograms in ubuntu
[21:31] <fabiobik> how to list every file with start letter of w and the 3rd letter w ?
[21:31] <ikonia> spendyala: it's  in the coreutils package
[21:32] <rymate1234> ok
[21:32] <rymate1234> small issue, I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix
[21:32] <rymate1234> My keyboard has media control buttons on it, and I was wondering how to get the spotify for linux client to workwith them
[21:33] <fishbait> how do i change the default sound device?
[21:33] <lupintheethird> Just wondering, are 3d capabilities supposed to be pre installed with ubuntu 12.04?
[21:34] <rymate1234> lupintheethird, they should do. what seems to be the issue? :)
[21:34] <lupintheethird> rymate1234, when i say alt tab, its just a list of icons not a 3d interface
[21:35] <rymate1234> is it a list of icons with a transparent background?
[21:35] <lupintheethird> rymate1234, yeah
[21:35] <rymate1234> then that's normal then
[21:36] <rymate1234> I'm trying to screenshot it but it won't let me :(
[21:36] <lupintheethird> rymate1234, is there a way to tell if my video card is fully enabled for 3d?
[21:37] <rymate1234> lupintheethird, open a terminal, type "glxgears" then press enter :P
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> lupintheethird: sudo lshw -C display    what chip are you using and what driver?
[21:37] <rymate1234> nvm it ain't installed by default
[21:37] <GNS3Talk> Gents, I installed GNOME CONNECTION MANAGER and when I do the 'which' command, it doesn't show me the location of the program! The program was installed using the Ubuntu Software Centre! Could anybody help?
[21:37] <rymate1234> use ActionParsnip's boring command :P
[21:37] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how to that can be debugged?
[21:38] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: 1.) make sure you know the correct command name 2.) the command must be in your $PATH for which to work
[21:38] <fishbait> would need_clock_sync mentioned in man pm-hibernate delay only pm-utils resume by 1/2 a second and not delay detection of drives?
[21:38] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, Ubuntu software center only shows gnome remote connection manager for me.
[21:39] <lupintheethird> I have a nvidia 310m and ubuntu automatically installed additional drivers
[21:39] <lupintheethird> lshw says my graphics card
[21:39] <joeko> GNS3Talk, Try going to synaptic and looking at the installed files list for the package
[21:39] <fabiobik> how to list files with starting letter w and the 3rd letter r
[21:39] <fabiobik> ive tryed ls w?r*
[21:40] <BlueEagle> fabiobik: note that ls is case sensitive
[21:40] <GNS3Talk> cloudy: Even if I true gnome-remote-connection or any with this combination, I can't get which to find it.
[21:40] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: 1.) make sure you know the correct command name 2.) the command must be in your $PATH for which to work
[21:40] <BlueEagle> fabiobik: ls K?u* works for me.
[21:40] <GNS3Talk> joeko: Good idea. I will check it out.
[21:40] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: It's not in the $PATH as far as I could see!
[21:40] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, Gnome remote connection manager would be grcm
[21:41] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: then how do you expect which to work
[21:41] <fishbait> i need to tell pm-utils to wait for other drives to search for hibernation file how do i do that?
[21:41] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: That's why I came here to ask :)
[21:41] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: you need to add the directory it's in to the $PATH variable for which to wkr
[21:41] <ikonia> work
[21:41] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, try which grcm
[21:42] <GNS3Talk> cloudy: It doesn't work.
[21:42] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I'm actually interested in finding the full path to execute via a small script!
[21:42] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: right so your question is "where is the binary" not "I can't get it to work with which"
[21:42] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I don't care if which can display it or not :)
[21:43] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: Yes!
[21:43] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: do you know the correct name for the binary ?
[21:43] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, try dpkg -l | grep connection
[21:44] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: It came up in the first result:
[21:44] <GNS3Talk> ii  gnome-connection-manager               1.0.0                                   Un manejador de conexiones ssh para gnome
[21:45] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, gnome-connection-manager should be your binary
[21:46] <GNS3Talk> Okay excellent! Thank you cloudy, joeko and ikonia :)
[21:48] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, :)
[21:48] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how that can be debugged?
[21:48] <Etale> \msg nickserv identify cohomology
[21:49] <fira> not sure if epic fail
[21:49] <fira> or trolling
[21:49] <Etale> Epic fail.
[21:49] <Etale> How do I change password?
[21:49] <fira> quick, /NS SET PASSWORD [something]
[21:50] <drpoo> I am having problems with apt. I am getting the following message as output of apt-get check : http://pastebin.com/2qxFr7kR
[21:50] <Etale> K!
[21:51] <zaitzev> drpoo: Do you see what it says on lines 4 and 15?
[21:51] <Etale> I've never really understood why we even have passwords. What does our IRC account even have that's worth hacking in to?
[21:52] <drpoo> zaitzev, I tried it but I get this as output: http://pastebin.com/pUSZGQrj
[21:52] <gentwo> hi everyone.  understanding this is a biased channel, would you suggest i use ubuntu server or another linux distribution on a Rackspace VPS?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> cloudy: are there bugs reported?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> gentwo: sure why not, 12.04 server is supported for 5 years
[21:53] <cloudy> ActionParsnip, sorry, do you mean whether I reported the bug already?
[21:55] <dalek_> How do I block internet on my computer and set password access?
[21:55] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, I been having trouble with apt-get. My output of apt-get check is:http://pastebin.com/2qxFr7kR . I tried apt-get -f install but I get this as output: http://pastebin.com/pUSZGQrj . Any suggestions?
[21:55] <nailora> i have a ubuntu computer that was updated to precise recently. how can i find out the exact/estimate date of upgrade?
[21:56] <smerdykov> you might be able to find that in the apt-get log/
[21:57] <dalek_> Is there any way to block access to internet in ubuntu?
[21:57] <smerdykov> do you still need local network access/
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> cloudy: both
[21:58] <harushimo> does anyone use juju at all?
[21:58] <drpoo> I been having trouble with apt-get. My output of apt-get check is:http://pastebin.com/2qxFr7kR . I tried apt-get -f install but I get this as output: http://pastebin.com/pUSZGQrj . Any suggestions?
[21:58] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip, will a windows 7 only mouse work in ubuntu
[21:58] <cloudy> ActionParsnip, I haven't reported a bug yet
[21:59] <smerdykov> you could use aptitude, I've always had better luck with that
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> drpoo: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046306/
[21:59] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:00] <Etale> Hi people! I've got a general linux question. I've used a patch for compiz, which included compiling it from source. Among other things, I had to "sudo apt-get build-dep compiz". This installed maybe 230M of random libraries. I imagine that once I've compiled the thing from source, I no longer need these libraries. How do I get rid of them?
[22:00] <Etale> P.S. I've been following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1938942
[22:01] <harrrismrubin> can you use a windows 7 mouse only in ubuntu
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: sure, it will use the generic driver, mice are simple creatures
[22:01] <harrrismrubin> can you look at this and tell me if it will work ActionParsnip
[22:01] <harrrismrubin> http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[22:02] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:02] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, I got errors at several steps
[22:02] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  it says it does not work in vista or xp
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: can't imagine any issue personally
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> harrrismrubin  looks very new technology, why not try it out and report in the channel, for future reference
[22:03] <smerdykov> dalek, can you just disable the network device?
[22:03] <cloudy> I read somewhere that apt-get and aptitude should not we ran interchangably. So if you started using one, you should stick with it.
[22:03] <harrrismrubin> so it is safe  to buy it
[22:03] <harrrismrubin> i dont want to waste my money
[22:03] <smerdykov> I believe aptitude is just a front-end to apt-get, so that would be like saying to only use aptitude or synaptic, they all do the same thing
[22:03] <harrrismrubin> do you thibnk it will work
[22:04] <harrrismrubin> is targus a good company ActionParsnip
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> harrrismrubin  if you want the very newest technology, you are in fact a pioneer
[22:04] <nailora> harrrismrubin: why would you want to buy that mouse? if you want one that works no matter what?
[22:04] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, when running LANG=C;sudo apt-get --purge autoremove -f  I got this outputhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1046314/
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: I guess
[22:04] <nailora> if you want one that works no    ▒ │AJ_Z0           │
[22:04] <nailora> sorry for the mess
[22:05] <harrrismrubin> my mouse doesnt work nailora
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> drpoo: I suggest you remove all the 32bit packages you have installed
[22:05] <harrrismrubin> it does not work anymore it is 10 years old
[22:06] <nailora> if you want one that works no matter what, pick another one with better rating and proven technology. that one will work with like 95% certainty
[22:06] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, How can I mark *ALL* 32bit packages for removal?
[22:06] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, I cant remove them if apt-get is not working... Can I ?
[22:07] <harrrismrubin> does anyone know the company it starts with an r and it makes all tech stuff
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> drpoo: dpkg -l | grep i386 | awk {'print $2'}        should display them
[22:07] <nailora> a "traditional mouse" with some kind of usb adapter will wotk 100%
[22:08] <harrrismrubin> anyone know it they used to sell to bestbuy
[22:09] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:09] <cloudy> Note that it is bad practice to use aptitude and apt-get interchangeably, as they record changes made by a user separately.
[22:09] <cloudy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_%28software%29
[22:12] <debugapparmor> does someone can use chromium with apparmor at the moment?
[22:13] <alving> can someone help me upgrade wine?
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> alving  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:14] <debugapparmor> tried wine ppa?
[22:14] <alving> yes, been there done that.
[22:14] <Jonii_> Does terminal have any keyboard shortcut to produce page up and page down?
[22:15] <alving> i had ver 1.4 installed and was playing WoW
[22:15] <Jonii_> My keyboard does not have those
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Jonii_  alt - page up
[22:15] <linus> Im trying to use suexec to run a cgi script as a user other than www-data. Do I still need to specify the cgi directory in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default?
[22:15] <alving> went to install Dialbo3 and it screwed everything up
[22:15] <debugapparmor> alving: with the ppa you get wine 1.5
[22:16] <Jonii_> MonkeyDust: i don't have page up or page down keys, which is why I'm asking for other methods of producing these keys, when in terminal
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> but a ppa is not supported here
[22:16] <debugapparmor> oh
[22:16] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:16] <alving> i have the ppa in the software sources
[22:16] <Jonii_> I only need page up/page down when using irssi, so any method that works for irssi is good enough
[22:16] <alving> says im up to date at 1.2.3
[22:16] <Jonii_> i don't need that anywhere else
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> Jonii_  you're not a regular pc?
[22:17] <harushimo> anyone here use juju
[22:17] <harushimo> ?
[22:17] <nagn> is anyone here
[22:17] <Jonii_> MonkeyDust: I sorta am. I'm using a laptop where pg up/dwn is routed to be fn + up/dwn, these keys are on totally different sides of keyboard, so it's borderline unusable
[22:18] <debugapparmor> can someone help me with apparmor?
[22:18] <Jonii_> It both requires you to break touch typing position and use both hands
[22:19] <Gary_inNYC> i have a standalone exe I want to run that requires flash plugin to work properly.  how do i get flash plugin running in wine?
[22:19] <Jonii_> Which ordinarily would not matter, since you almost never need those keys, but unfortunately I don't want to give up irssi, so I need to have those keys available
[22:20] <alving> ive gone to winehq website and d/l sources files for wine1.5, done the install as per the readme file and still doesnt even register that its been installed
[22:20] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:21] <debugapparmor> alving: which distro you have?
[22:21] <alving> ubuntu 10.10 studio
[22:21] <deepa> Having the misfortune of not being able to choose and getting paid for the time it takes I'm back :p
[22:22] <deepa> The Ubuntu windows installed thingymajic, if I choose C:\ will it install there or put the installation files there and install elsewhere?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> alving: maverick is EOL
[22:22] <debugapparmor> alving: wine in terminal works?
[22:22] <alving> no sorry "lucid"
[22:22] <alving> even worse
[22:22] <alving> BRB
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> alving: lucid is still supported
[22:25] <debugapparmor> what is the purpose of the flood bots?
[22:25] <deepa> antispam most likely
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> debugapparmor: if you paste a tonne of lines, they stop
[22:25] <debugapparmor> thanks
[22:25] <m__> hi
[22:26] <m__> did anyone knows how i get the sound running under ubuntu 12.04
[22:26] <m__> thoose tipps ike aslamixer etc wont work for me
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> m__: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> !sound| m__ start here
[22:28] <erik32526> hi all im having video driver issue
[22:28] <erik32526> on nvidia pci e card
[22:29] <m__> ActionParsnip: shall i uplaod te information ?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> m__: yes please, a URL will be made. What is the URL
[22:29] <m__> erik32526: did u already tried to install bumblebee
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> m__: might be single GPU...
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: what is the issue?
[22:30] <erik32526> has anyone had issues with nvidi video cards
[22:30] <m__> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=eb5c3a4063b5ff9339cedc13b069dc2d297a61ec
[22:30] <erik32526> what is bubbee
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: I buy nvidia GPU for the reason that I have zero issues
[22:31] <m__> erik32526: what klind of problem to u havbe, and are u using an nvida optimus
[22:31] <erik32526> on youtube the video looks grey
[22:31] <AJ_Z0> erik32526: Please describe your actual problem and provide the relevant technical details including card, diver and version used
[22:32] <AJ_Z0> erik32526: If you're using Flash, the right click the video and turn off hardware acceleration
[22:32] <erik32526> how do i found out what card i have in terminal
[22:32] <AJ_Z0> This issue is easily found with a simple web search
[22:33] <erik32526> in terminal what do i type
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> m__: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=acer" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[22:33] <erik32526> to tell me what card i have
[22:33] <Daghdha> Hi.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> m__: reboot to test
[22:33] <m__> first reboot or first test?
[22:34] <JasonDC> anyone here know their 'sed'?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: can you give the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a     use http://pastie.org
[22:34] <Daghdha> My vboxy was moaning about vboxdrv. This file just isn't there. Aftere a BARRAGE of chnges and reboots it no longer complains on reboots (Thank God) but i still don't have the /etc/init.d/vboxdrv
[22:34] <harushimo> what about sed? I have some basic knowledge
[22:34] <Daghdha> What is it and how do i g et it? (Do i need it?)
[22:35] <Daghdha> The internet is littered with issues regarding this vboxdrv
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: i'd ask in #vbox too
[22:36] <JasonDC> this is the command and output, i was wondering if you could take a look: fpaste.org/0FKo
[22:36] <KornKage2> hi
[22:36] <KornKage2> how do i uninstall a driver?
[22:36] <KornKage2> and its not nvidia
[22:36] <Jordan_U> KornKage2: What driver and how did you install it?
[22:37] <KornKage2> its a usb pen for dvb-t(rtlsdr)
[22:37] <KornKage2> i think the driver was installed when i installed gnuradio from the script, or it installed directly, i dont recall
[22:38] <erik32526> i have geforce 310
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: the command will tell us a LOT more than that, can you give the output in a pastebin please
[22:39] <debugapparmor> can someone help get rid of this: apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1 profile="/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser//chromium_browser_sandbox" name="/proc/22437/status" pid=22437 comm="chromium-browse" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[22:40] <erik32526> http://pastie.org/4105351
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: can you please run ALL of the command I gave
[22:41] <debugapparmor> command to list channels?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[22:41] <debugapparmor> !alis
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> debugapparmor: read the test ubottu gave...
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> *text
[22:42] <Laban> Hi
[22:42] <Laban> I just re-installed 12.04 and thought I'd setup internet sharing from the GUI this time.
[22:43] <Laban> I think it's working, but how do I change the internal IP-range?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Laban: you can set IP using network manager
[22:44] <Laban> I go into "Edit Wired connection 1" (which is the LAN NIC, WAN is w/c 2)
[22:45] <Laban> And if I select Method: Shared to other computers, all others are grayed out.
[22:45] <erik32526> i did pastbin
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: what is the URL please?
[22:46] <erik32526> http://pastie.org/4105383
[22:46] <erik32526> http://pastie.org/4105383
[22:47] <erik32526> brb
[22:51] <Sparky712> right.. I started install attempts thursday, but I think it might be time to give up. I have tried multiple times to install ubunto, and also mint, once Ubuntu proved so difficult. both prove impossible for me to install, with them both freezing with the same problems. Later, I will be launching one more attempt, then I will have to resign from this until I have a new PC.. im not willing to
[22:51] <Sparky712> wipe this harddrive, until I have finished college...
[22:52] <Sparky712> so, what could cause neither Wubi, or USB installs to work when trying to install, and for repetetive freezes when it is attempted.
[22:55] <alving> hi all
[22:56] <erik32526> i guess he left
[22:56] <Sparky712> guess who left?
[22:57] <erik32526> hello
[22:58] <Sparky712> hello
[22:58] <Sparky712> you have a question?
[22:58] <Sparky712> I wont be able to help, but im sure there is someone on who can.
[22:58] <erik32526> i used paste bin for my video issue
[22:58] <sandyeggoboy> what is whoopie
[22:58] <sandyeggoboy> whoopsie?
[23:00] <belli> hi all
[23:00] <Sparky712> sandy, surely a general definition question like that would be better suited to a search engine?
[23:00] <belli> need help.please
[23:01] <belli> cannot found 4.xxx version unetbootin.deb
[23:01] <Guest42217> wtf?
[23:02] <Sparky712> hmm?
[23:02] <belli> someone have this version?
[23:09] <michael_> hello
[23:09] <michael_> I have a question with Ubuntu 12.04 and was wondering if anyone can help?
[23:10] <Flavaln> Hi, I've been trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 with an encrypted partition. I've tried the alt install disk, with default options and with manual partitioning. I've tried it with and without internet, on 2 HDDs on 2 computers. It always fails after installing the base system.
[23:10] <Flavaln> Is this a known issue? I've tried to work around it using the Desktop install but I haven't quite gotten that to work with encrypted partition either.
[23:11] <Flavaln> I also tried from USB stick (created with 2 separate programs) and from CD.
[23:11] <Flavaln> Also tried 11.10, same problem
[23:20] <enroxorz_> Hello Everybody! I have a support question regardingg humble bundle and software center. Is this the place to ask?
[23:23] <yeats> Flavaln: you can type Alt-F4 in the alternate installer and see what the log messages are
[23:24] <Flavaln> That sounds like a prank but I'll try it
[23:24] <yeats> Flavaln: not a prank
[23:24] <HelloWorld321> Flavaln: that's because you're used to Windows gaming
[23:25] <HelloWorld321> Is there a problem with either nVidia or ATI under Ubuntu serious enough to affect a purchase decision?
[23:25] <yeats> Flavaln: tty4 in the debian installer shows log messages (alt installer is the debian installer re-tooled for ubuntu)
[23:25] <Flavaln> I'll try that, it'll probably take 15 minutes to get there
[23:28] <Flavaln> So while I'm doing that, is this a known issue?
[23:31] <HelloWorld321> I would assume that PCI x16 and PCI x16 2.0 are completely different.  Is that true?
[23:31] <HelloWorld321> You can't use If my http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/1009440/1009440sp2.shtml mobo has a space for One PCI Express ×16 (graphics interface), then obviously I can't use a PCI x16 2.0 in it, like http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3913#sp, can I?
[23:32] <yeats> Flavaln: without more details about what's actually going wrong, there's not a way to tell if it's an known issue or not...
[23:32] <Flavaln> HelloWorld, in general they should be compatible at the lower speed.
[23:33] <silverghost> wtf is going on ubuntu signed a deal with microsoft :O
[23:33] <Flavaln> yeats, okay I'll get the exact errors
[23:33] <silverghost> what is this azure thing going on?
[23:33] <silverghost> canonical signed a deal with microsoft :O
[23:34] <yeats> !ot | silverghost
[23:34] <silverghost> this is serious topic
[23:34] <innociv> Someone is ddos'ing my site and making it use up 100% cpu.  How do I figure out what's using all the cpu when I can't open htop during the attacks?
[23:34] <Cottus> silverghost, please send likn
[23:34] <silverghost> canonical = novell same
[23:35] <HelloWorld321> Thanks, Flavaln.  The older PCI-E x16 is getting hard to find.
[23:35] <marc> can anyone help with a a question?
[23:35] <Flavaln> man this Ubuntu startup disk creater is a real piece of garbage
[23:36] <silverghost> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/canonical-partners-with-microsoft-to-support-ubuntu-on-azure/
[23:36] <Cottus> marc, what is ti?
[23:36] <silverghost> canonical is following novell :O
[23:36] <silverghost> officially i am quitting ubuntu
[23:37] <xablor> Hey all.
[23:37] <marc> Why my system after updating Ubuntu from version 10.04 to version 10.10 is wary slow now?
[23:37] <xablor> How do I confirm that I've found a bug in an STL class?
[23:37] <xablor> It's not behaving as expected, but I've been wrong before.
[23:37] <silverghost> bye bye good community i would urge most of u to ditch ubuntu and canonical
[23:37] <yeats> FloodBot1: what's not working?
[23:37] <silverghost> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/canonical-partners-with-microsoft-to-support-ubuntu-on-azure/
[23:37] <SS01> marc: not sure, but 10.10 is no longer supported. Try 12.04.
[23:38] <silverghost> Canonical officially support Microsoft’s cloud offering,
[23:38] <silverghost> :O
[23:38] <yeats> silverghost: please move on
[23:38] <silverghost> bye cheers thanks for everything
[23:38] <Ariel_Calzada>  hi, i have hspmodem configurated i want to know if possible to use this modem as telephone in my linux box?
[23:38] <Cottus> bye
[23:39] <marc> I did already but my system seams wary slow. The 10.04 was working ok on my hold DELL latitude laptop.
[23:40] <SS01> marc: does your system meet the minimum requirements?
[23:41] <marc> I am not sure about minimum requirement. Where can I check?
[23:42] <SS01> marc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes#System_Requirements
[23:42] <Flavaln> silverghost, stop whining. They paid $100 to get a signed key to more easily install on locked down systems. Not the biggest deal.
[23:42] <yeats> marc: what model processor?  how much RAM?
[23:43] <Flavaln> I'm sure they've paid more than that for certs before.
[23:43] <marc> Dell Latitude D600, CPU intel pentium 1.6, 768 ram.
[23:45] <silverghost> I admire Microsoft for their war-strategy. They grabbed Novell/SUSE which could have been a billion dollar company -- Killed it.
[23:45] <silverghost> Then they went after Nokia which as a breeding ground of some leading open source technologies -- they are killing it.
[23:46] <silverghost> Now they have partnered with Canonical for cloud. I always wondered how Microsoft will control Canonical. They signed a deal to make Canonical their cloud partner for Azure.
[23:46] <K350>
[23:46] <silverghost> No wonder I was hearing so many words of praise for Microsoft for the last 2-3 months. When I asked about HUD Mark said even Microsoft is excited about it. Recently at IRC he praised Microsoft for Windows 8 and bashed Red Hat and now...full 'recommendation' of Azure.
[23:47] <marc> Thanks chaps. Have good night.
[23:47] <Flavaln> enough. I'm just going to ignore you now
[23:47] <silverghost> who knows about those patents deal nehind locked doors
[23:48] <Relondo> How do I run an executable? (Not a .exe file; I'm not THAT new).
[23:48] <Flavaln> from shell?
[23:48] <silverghost> ditch canonical novell and microsoft now use lienecks mint
[23:49] <silverghost> ubuntu is not user friendly distro
[23:49] <Cottus> :D
[23:49] <Flavaln> Relondo, cd DIR   ./binary
[23:50] <node> h
[23:51] <boldfilter> Thank you for making Google Classic better. Thank you, thank you, thank you
[23:51] <Farlin> Hello. Does anyone know why Ubuntu 12 LST reboots after the system is idle for a period of time? I have already disabled all the power management/hibernation stuff.
[23:51] <boldfilter> Gnome Classic
[23:52] <boldfilter> You can call me old school. Well, I guess you can
[23:52] <Relondo> Flavaln: Thanks.
[23:53] <Flavaln> Relondo, yeah . isn't in the default path for security reasons
[23:53] <Relondo> Flavaln: Didn't work :/
[23:54] <Relondo> Flavaln: I put "cd /home/[my user]/Games/Foldit ./foldit
[23:54] <Flavaln> well I presume that foldit doesn't have the execute permission bit set
[23:54] <Flavaln> check out chmod
[23:55] <Azag> hi
[23:55] <silverghost> flavaln try mageia it is a pretty cool distro :)
[23:55] <Relondo> Flavaln: In the properties, it says it has permission to be run as an executable.
[23:55] <shankara> Hello, dear friends.
[23:55] <silverghost> hi
[23:56] <silverghost> hi shankara :)
[23:56] <Azag> installing gnome-shell-extensions
[23:56] <shankara> Hi, silverghost
[23:56] <Azag> I broke my gnome-shell
[23:56] <silverghost> haha
[23:56] <silverghost> gnome shell is buggy
[23:56] <Azag> now when I enter to it I can't see the windows "border" and panel
[23:56] <shankara> I am new to here and don't know how to ask questions.
[23:56] <silverghost> hey guys did u know gnome 3.5 is going to have an app store
[23:56] <OerHeks> silverghost, stop that please.
[23:57] <Azag> any solution??
[23:57] <silverghost> ask ur question shankara
[23:57] <shankara> thanks, silverghost
[23:57] <Flavaln> linux has had "app stores" since I was young.
[23:57] <Relondo> Azag: Maybe this can help you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/972231
[23:58] <silverghost> gnome 3.5 will have poweroff button by default wow LOL
[23:58] <shankara> I am using ubuntu 10.04 with canon 2900 laser shot. it is working fine, but I would like to upgrade to 12.04, but, printer is not working in 12.04
[23:58] <shankara> I tried it with live USB session
[23:59] <yeats> shankara: what didn't work?
[23:59] <shankara> printer. yeats.
[23:59] <shankara> canon 2900B
[23:59] <yeats> shankara: I understand that... did you get any error messages, I mean
[23:59] <shankara> ok.