[15:49] <yashwant> is any one know how to  convert 777 root permission to default permission
[15:49] <usr13> reduz2: http://blog.403labs.com/post/22325731425/vpn-dns-resolving-woes-in-ubuntu-12-04  #....reading...
[15:49] <yashwant> my sudo is not working due to 777
[15:49] <flametai1> bazhang: Know any tricks to installing packages without ethernet?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> reduz2, and ignore the warning in the head file
[15:49] <insomniaSalt> Hi #ubuntu, can I safely use "dd" to create bootable pendrives instead of usb-creator/unetbootin?
[15:50] <equex> deadmund: actually it wasnt expo, i meant the one where you get the workspaces side by side in the middle of the screen, not tiled (like expo)
[15:50] <auronandace> insomniaSalt: yes
[15:50] <bazhang> insomniaSalt, for 12.04?
[15:50] <insomniaSalt> auronandace: thanks.
[15:50] <bazhang> flametai1, still checking forums
[15:50] <insomniaSalt> bazhang: yes. and for ~100 pendrives (install party preparation)
[15:50] <bazhang> insomniaSalt, then yes
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to do a recursive scp of a folder?\
[15:50] <auronandace> insomniaSalt: it works for 11.10 onwards
[15:51] <deadmund> equex: I'm not sure then
[15:52] <insomniaSalt> TheLordOfTime:  man scp | grep -i recursive
[15:52] <usr13> reduz2: Also see:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/142327/can-not-access-internet-dns-names-do-not-resolve-after-update-today
[15:53] <insomniaSalt> auronandace, bazhang: thanks again, bye.
[15:53] <usr13> yashwant: What?  due to 777?
[15:54] <Wesley0> how is everyone today?
[15:54] <yashwant> i have changed my ubuntu root permission now my sudo is not working how to change as like previous.
[15:54] <ThinkT510> Wesley0: this is a support channel
[15:55] <Wesley0> ThinkT510: I am aware, I was just being polite.
[15:55] <W4sp> yashwant: boot into prompt and chmod 4744 /usr/bin/sudo
[15:56] <newbie|2> How do I extract a file that ends with *.7z ?
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> ThinT510: ive been able to get rid of the square mouse with 'nomodeset' unfortunatly compiz disables, no wobbly windows, icon launcher size 2d etc..
[15:56] <xangua> newbie|2: install p7zip
[15:57] <xangua> !info p7zip | newbie|2
[15:57] <newbie|2> xangua: thx
[15:57] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i forget which driver were you using? radeon (the open source one) or fglrx (closed)?
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: how to check again
[15:58] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: lsmod
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:radeon
[15:59] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: thats why then, the open source driver needs kernel mode setting for 3d
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: what excaclty should i do
[16:00] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: you could use fglrx if you don't mind using closed source drivers
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i can try
[16:01] <lickalott> citymaj check pm
[16:01] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: you only get this problem on debian based distros?
[16:02] <Georwl> middle mouse is not working anymore. I really don't know what I did but it doesn't seem to work. maybe it is update related. xev doesn't show me the middle mouse click either. anyone know a solution?
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i had this mouse corruption indeed on ubuntu only all kinds of versions 32 or 64bit
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:installing fxglr, will it auto remove the radeon driver?
[16:03] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: did you try non-pae 32bit?
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:no what does this version do?
[16:04] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i remember you showing my a forum post that suggested it, pae is for addressing more than 4gb on 32bit
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: lemme reboot real quick cross my fingers, testing fxglr
[16:05] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: wait
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:05] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: didn't you say it disappears on reboot anyway? you only get the problem on cold boot
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: yes mate every morning cold boot for sure, also few hours wait the screen corrupt, but after normal reboot it vanish
[16:06] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: so you'd need to cold boot to see if it works
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:yes our few hours wait
[16:07] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: it happens again after a few hours?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:yes
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:lemme show you screenshot
[16:08] <Georwl> anyone here whose middle mouse click isnt working anymore on 12.04?
[16:08] <j4rg0n> Any one know how i would go about running my webcam from ubuntu 12.04 its  a built in cam
[16:08] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: odd, i thought it was just a problem when booted
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:http://i50.tinypic.com/5chu6b.jpg
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: in reality its not as much corruption, only mouse and text on folders
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i also found a very similar bug with my addy at bottom https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[16:12] <fXsTar> Is there any way to increase the font size of bookmarks toolbar in chromium ?
[16:13] <j4rg0n> Any one know how i would go about running my webcam from ubuntu 12.04 its  a built in cam
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> fXsTar: you could ask in #chromium
[16:13] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: did you write that? if not i think the nick in brackets is the guy that wrote that in your behalf
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> !info cheese | j4rg0n
[16:14] <j4rg0n> thanks
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:its not my bug, i just added 2 replys 153 154
[16:14] <Georwl> middle mouse is not working anymore. xev doesn't show me the middle mouse click either. anyone know a solution?
[16:14] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: oh right
[16:15] <hwilde> help my youtube videos just started stuttering and skipping around wtf is happening!
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> hwilde: please keep polite
[16:16] <Queops> flash happened, sadly.
[16:16] <Halfalife> Update Flash?
[16:16] <Halfalife> Or use HTML5?
[16:16] <Queops> HTML5 is still not a real solution
[16:16] <hwilde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/184732
[16:16] <Halfalife> It works for some videos on Youtube, though.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> Queops:i agree
[16:16] <deadmund> It is a good solution.  Not enough sites use it.
[16:16] <TheLordOfTime> hwilde:  that's been fixed, is this still a bug?
[16:17] <hwilde> I have Ubuntu 11.04 and it just started happening this week
[16:17] <Georwl> please if there is someone experiencing the same "middle click" issue say so. google isn't helping
[16:17] <Queops> deadmund: sadly.
[16:17] <Queops> I believe it was because of ads
[16:17] <velho> HOW can one increase the text sixe, in XChat?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:lemme reboot mate i come back quick, if not..the driver crashed lol
[16:18] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: ok
[16:18] <j4rg0n> Queops: I agree as well although HTML5 is awesome still can't fix flash lol
[16:18] <hwilde> velho, settings, preference, font size
[16:18] <lickalott> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=983
[16:18] <TheLordOfTime> hwilde:  you may consider filing a new bug on that, saying it still happens?:
[16:18] <hwilde> ugh what is the solution!
[16:18] <lickalott> sry hwilde...didn't mean to step on your toes
[16:19] <acioname> j4rg0n:try to see if video stutters when you recording with cheese another great option is guvcview
[16:20] <velho> hwilde, ThANKS :)
[16:21] <veric> Here is information for flash issues with older cpu https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3161034
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:screen is laggy now, no compiz anymore no wobbly windows
[16:21] <Halfalife> Try running compiz --replace?
[16:21] <wmarone_> does anyone else have a problem with the launcher where it never reappears if you turn on auto-hide?
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> wmarone_:  no.  what ubuntu are you on?>
[16:21] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i've never used fglrx, i've heard it is rather buggy or low-quality
[16:21] <j4rg0n> acioname: I will see when i finish installing it thanks
[16:21] <wmarone_> 12.04.1
[16:22] <Queops> velho: you might want to know about http://www.hexchat.org/
[16:22] <Queops> I certainly did
[16:22] <bobweaver> wmarone_,  you have set the sensitivity in gnome-control-settings ?
[16:22] <wmarone_> it's running Unity, not gnome
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> wmarone_:  the sensitivity is in the settings menu area that is in gnome-control-settings
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: same thing after replace
[16:22] <bobweaver> lol open gnome-control-settings and go to apperences then click the unity bar
[16:22] <yeats> wmarone_: see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145530/launcher-auto-hides-but-does-not-come-back
[16:22] <j4rg0n> I have satalite internet so its a bit slow....lol
[16:23] <wmarone_> now then
[16:23] <wmarone_> I have done both of those
[16:23] <veric> wmarone i did the other day i rebooted and it has not happned since
[16:23] <wmarone_> including adding the compiz tool and altering the reveal pressure
[16:23] <wmarone_> I do not even get the shadow on the left edge
[16:23] <velho> Queops, what's the differente from Xchat? besides being windows also?
[16:23] <hwilde> could we have some option to try upgrades, and if they don't work then revert them?  this used to work fine and now it's broken I would much rather have old working stable packages than broken updates
[16:23] <j4rg0n> Compiz is pretty but I kinda hate it lol
[16:23] <Halfalife> I like it.
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok so howto go back to radeon now
[16:23] <Halfalife> Desktop cube + The Thinkpad Forward/back buttons makes workspaces so convenient.
[16:24] <velho> j4rg0n, for me is more usefull then pretty
[16:24] <yeats> hwilde: I use a virtual machine
[16:24] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: disable fglrx and reboot
[16:24] <Georwl> seriously...no one?
[16:24] <acioname> i have a problem with nvidia card driver i get this error when i was trying to install a program with apt-get command via terminal http://pastebin.com/t8VFvZha
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:ok brb
[16:24] <bobweaver> I like compiz windowing system I sure do Like to min and max my windows
[16:24] <Queops> velho: I believe they started making improvements
[16:24] <Queops> velho: and I already used xchat wdk on windows, which is now hexchat
[16:25] <usr13> j4rg0n:  You have satellite ISP, like hugesnet,  one that uses a dish that points to a celestial satellite?
[16:25] <vladimirsanchez> WIFI connection lost... not found in /proc/modules anymore after update to LInux Kernel on ppc ... RE: b43 device driver no longer works
[16:26] <citymaj88> whats a good alternative to nano editoR?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> citymaj88, vi
[16:26] <yeats> citymaj88: gedit
[16:26] <hwilde> citymaj88, whats wrong with nano
[16:26] <velho> Queops, I'm always inclined to multi-platform programs :)
[16:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  can you pastebin the output of     lsmod   ?
[16:26] <ThinkT510> citymaj88: vim or emacs
[16:26] <Queops> velho: ;)
[16:26] <vladimirsanchez> :) good to see you again...
[16:26] <usr13> *hughesnet*
[16:26] <citymaj88> i dont know how to navigate it, trying to change a text file in root folder
[16:26] <velho> Queops, and since it's based on xchatr...
[16:27] <j4rg0n> Is there a way without installing an older version of Ubuntu to get rid of the docking bar and give it back the appearance that it ubuntu had about idk like a year or so ago
[16:27] <vladimirsanchez> one sec... have to cp to usb
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> This is weird.
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> My windows 7 installation
[16:27] <usr13> j4rg0n: Yes
[16:27] <yeats> citymaj88: what are you not able to do?  (nano is the easiest CLI editor)
[16:27] <Maverick_> need openexr file
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> or rather, any another partition on my hard drive isn't being detected
[16:27] <Queops> velho: works well for me
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> and instead is showing unallocated space
[16:27] <j4rg0n> velho: I never really found alot of use for it other then increseing the amount of workspaces available
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> What could be causing this?
[16:27] <j4rg0n> velho: and the cube looks cool lol
[16:28] <Foxhoundz> I'm trying to install Windows 7 and Ubuntu ( actually, Xubuntu) side by side
[16:28] <citymaj88> im dumb to this shit bro, i dont know how to navigate it
[16:28] <ikonia> citymaj88: tone the language down please
[16:28] <lickalott> citymaj88, vi or vim can be navigated fairly easy with some practice.
[16:28] <yeats> Foxhoundz: does 'sudo fdisk -l' show the windows partition?
[16:28] <ikonia> citymaj88: no swearing on ganster chat
[16:28] <ikonia> just clear english
[16:28] <compdoc> owncloud is great
[16:28] <Foxhoundz> yeats, is that a question?
[16:28] <j4rg0n> yeah hughesnet exactly
[16:29] <citymaj88> ok thanks
[16:29] <j4rg0n> usr13: yes I have hughes net as a matter of fact lol
[16:29] <yeats> Foxhoundz: yes, as indicated by the "?" at the end of it
[16:29] <lickalott> citymaj are you using desktop or server?
[16:29] <citymaj88> please ikonia
[16:29] <velho> j4rg0n, i use the NEGATIVE a lot, to save my eyes
[16:29] <citymaj88> yea lickalott
[16:29] <ikonia> citymaj88: please what ?
[16:29] <citymaj88> nothing
[16:29] <ikonia> (sorry if I've missed a question)
[16:29] <ikonia> oh, ok.
[16:29] <Foxhoundz> yeats, it's showing two ntfs partitions on sda1 and sda2
[16:29] <Foxhoundz> so it does indeed detect it
[16:29] <lickalott> yeah?  server or yeah desktop?
[16:30] <Foxhoundz> but gparted shows 100% free unallocated space
[16:30] <velho> j4rg0n, if you don't use more then one workspace, don't use the cube just because it's cool
[16:30] <Foxhoundz> so does the Xubuntu installer
[16:30] <citymaj88> in on my desktop......dual boot ubuntu
[16:30] <yeats> Foxhoundz: can you paste a screenshot of what you're seeing on gparted?
[16:30] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/j9Kpki2t
[16:30] <Foxhoundz> okay
[16:30] <lickalott> not sure but you may be able to roll out texteditor
[16:31] <usr13> j4rg0n: Isnt' there anything else availabe?  Like a wisp?
[16:31] <citymaj88> ok cool
[16:31] <j4rg0n> usr13: Hughesnet is a joke they've been sued so many times for false advertiseing its not even funny and im stuck in contract till next november and no other internet company comes to my area
[16:31] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  lspci -nn | grep 14e4       what is the Numbers in Red ?
[16:31] <usr13> j4rg0n: Can I PM you?
[16:31] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, blasted, theadmin's not around now. Oh well. :)
[16:31] <smart1> hey there, short question. i use unity. and i put my titlebar of my tools under the menubar of unity. any idea how to fix this?
[16:32] <smart1> in windows you got an Alt+Key comination to move
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok radeon back to normal with compiz :p tnx
[16:33] <j4rg0n> velho: good point lol
[16:33] <ThinkT510> smart1: hold down alt and click and drag the window from anywhere
[16:33] <klio> exit
[16:33] <lickalott> j4rg0n that sucks bro.   I have to use hughesnet/wild blue when i go up to my in-laws house.  i feel your pain man.
[16:33] <smart1> @ThinkT10 thx
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> i gtg see you all for another session
[16:33] <Foxhoundz> yeats, well....I can't show you the screenshot at the moment
[16:33] <yeats> Foxhoundz: ok
[16:33] <Foxhoundz> network card is not being detected
[16:33] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: bye
[16:33] <smart1> i clicked everywhere but not into the window -.-
[16:33] <usr13> j4rg0n: (some wisps do not advertise, so...)
[16:33] <Foxhoundz> and I'm having trouble mounting my USB flash drive
[16:33] <j4rg0n> velho: oh i know just when i first started playing around with Ubuntu i found compiz and did the cube just for flashy showin off stuff lol
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: bye mate and tnx for support..Again
[16:34] <Foxhoundz> but those are problems for another day. I just wish I could figure out what's causing it to be not detected
[16:34] <j4rg0n> usr13: Nope i live to far out in the boonies im lucky i get anything lol
[16:34] <j4rg0n> usr13: sure go ahead
[16:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Numbers in Red?
[16:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: 0001:10:12.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
[16:35] <veric> Lickalott did you see what i sent you
[16:35] <yeats> Foxhoundz: seen this (and other forums threads)?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1510017
[16:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: you once helped me figure out the b43 driver issue.
[16:35] <studentz> is possible to direct the sound from  two audios sources to two different outputs? One audio to my speakers and the other to my earphones?
[16:35] <usr13> j4rg0n: I have...
[16:35] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  [14e4:4320] might have been in red if bash color is set in bashrc
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: mostly not, no
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: depends on your sound card
[16:36] <bear> hey room
[16:36] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  cool maybe I can help again
[16:36] <vladimirsanchez> I updated my kernel to 2.6.32-42-powerpc and system is now acting up weirdly..
[16:36] <studentz> gordonjcp even with tow sound cards?
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: some have multiple outputs (like for 5.1)
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: oh with two cards it's easy
[16:36] <gordonjcp> well, easyish, and don't expect two identical streams on two different cards to stay in sync for long ;-)
[16:37] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: Eh? Ubuntu has a PPC version?
[16:37] <vladimirsanchez> 10.10
[16:37] <studentz> gordonjcp any guide or place to look for?
[16:37] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  sudo modprobe b43      wireless if not pastebin    apt-cache policy b43-fwcutter
[16:37] <gordonjcp> studentz: stick two cards in, fiddle about in the sound menu
[16:37] <bear> i am looking for a fix with or if someone has seen this before "(gnome-control-center:14576): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_take_error: assertion `error != NULL' failed Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[16:37] <Psi-Jack> Oh, wow. old old stuff. ;)
[16:38] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: yep, powerbook 17 .. still going
[16:38] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: 9 years old
[16:38] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: However, techncially,10.10 is already, itself, beyond EOL for support.
[16:38] <anlarye> i've had an issue with 12.04 since it came out. even with a fresh install. i dont get the splash screen. my monitor gives me a message about the video mode cannot be displayed at bootup then goes into the login screen after that. where can i go to get the splash screen back
[16:38] <vladimirsanchez> :[ yes
[16:38] <bobweaver> there are plenty of Power PC Ubuntu's they all have them every version or it was so the last time I looked
[16:38] <j4rg0n> Usr13: thanks for that info I'm doin some research on em right now
[16:38] <Foxhoundz> I'll try PartedMagic
[16:38] <Foxhoundz> and see if that fixes it
[16:39] <Foxhoundz> in the meantime, I'll try Windows' native recovery to try to fix the MBR
[16:39] <DG_> omg help!
[16:39] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Nope. 10.10, last PPC "port"
[16:39] <Foxhoundz> and see if that changes anything
[16:39] <DG_> helppppp!
[16:39] <Psi-Jack> DG_: Please, calm down, and ask what you need help with.
[16:39] <DG_> i cant boot windows 7!!
[16:39] <iceroot> DG_: ##windows
[16:39] <iceroot> !grub2 | DG_
[16:40] <iceroot> !details | DG_
[16:40] <bear> n e one??? (gnome-control-center:14576): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_take_error: assertion `error != NULL' failed
[16:40] <bear> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:40] <bobweaver> Look there is 12.04 ppc http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[16:40] <bobweaver> and all the rest also
[16:41] <DG_> ok i installed ubuntu 12.04 and i installed it on a seperate partition, yesterday i could boot into windows 7 but now it wont let me boot into it, it goes straight to the ubuntu boot menu
[16:41] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Oh, so there is. Not on ports as from: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/
[16:41] <DG_> that was a legit copy of windows so i dont want to lose it
[16:41] <bobweaver> Psi-Jack,  everyone of these has ppc http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[16:42] <velho> j4rg0n, first time I REALLU used ubuntu, some years ago, I was showing all the effects
[16:42] <velho> and eye candy stuff
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Looks like they just stopped referencing them as ports.
[16:42] <bobweaver> yup seems to look that way Psi-Jack
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: However...
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: The 12.04.1 is NOT for PowerPC CPU Architectures.
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: That's the difference.
[16:43] <velho> j4rg0n, but a computer is to work
[16:43] <Psi-Jack> Well, nevermind.
[16:43] <bear> has n e one ever seen this and possibly know a fix (gnome-control-center:14576): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_take_error: assertion `error != NULL' failed
[16:43] <bear> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:43] <Psi-Jack> Lower down, it's there for PPC as well. ;)
[16:44] <bobweaver> Yeah I think that the server world would flip or atleast IBM if that was not there Psi-Jack
[16:44] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Heh
[16:44] <j4rg0n> velho: Yeah, thats the way I was very vain about it. Thought I was cooler using it so I wanted to show off all the eye candy stuff when people looked over my shoulder lol. Now I use it to learn and work.
[16:44] <opieng> when you install things using sudo, why do they not appear on the desktop?
[16:45] <fidel> opieng: why would an app/package installed auto-apear on your desktop?
[16:45] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: so... should I upgrade to 12.04 ? once Wifi issue is fixed ?
[16:45] <fidel> opieng: thats not the usual behaviour - installing means installing ..not creating aliases or similar to your desktop
[16:45] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/2Z3P8sTp
[16:46] <opieng> fidel, I am used to windows, thats all
[16:46] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:46] <opieng> just started with linux and ubuntu
[16:47] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  your mod(driver ) is not installed
[16:47] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I cannot apt-get install ... I have no WIFI
[16:47] <anlarye> i've had an issue with 12.04 since it came out. even with a fresh install. i dont get the splash screen. my monitor gives me a message about the video mode cannot be displayed at bootup then goes into the login screen after that. where can i go to get the splash screen back
[16:47] <fidel> opieng: creating desktop-shortcuts is - if done at all usualy a bonbon/add-on after finishing the real install. in linux its usualy on you to do so - especialy as some desktop-environment try to keep your desktop free/uncluttered
[16:47] <bobweaver> ok you have usb vladimirsanchez  or anyway to hook up teather ect ?
[16:48] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: looking for a ethernet cable..
[16:48] <vladimirsanchez> how about the usb?
[16:48] <anlarye> opieng: welcome to linux and ubuntu. where you get to tell your computer what you want it to do ... instead of it telling you what to do
[16:48] <fidel> opieng: give those launchers a chance - there are several ways/apps to start apps by name just bypressing a shortcut and entering a few letters.
[16:49] <bobweaver> sweet vladimirsanchez  cat5 (ethernet) would be better but if you can not find we can fix with transferring driver and what not.
[16:49] <opieng> thats fair, by the way I tried to install PyQt using Sudo apt-get Install pyqt-dev-tools, but it wouldnt install I had to get it from the software centre, any reason for this?
[16:49] <fidel> my personal fav is 'kupfer' but most linux desktops offer 'alt+f2' as launcher by default
[16:49] <opieng> yep, I hope to completely switch to linux from windows ASAP
[16:50] <fidel> opieng: could you pastebin us the output of your apt-command? maybe we can explain if there was some error output
[16:50] <opieng> yep.. on its way..
[16:50] <opieng> pastebin.com/Y634n3Wh
[16:50] <bear> stumped with why I can't change my wallpaper, i know how to use dconf-editor to change it but it would be simpler if the gnome-control-center wouldn't crash everytime i try to change the wallpaper
[16:51] <bobweaver> openvoid,  the name of the package is python-qt4-dev
[16:51] <roger__> roger
[16:51] <bobweaver> I thought
[16:51] <bear> n e one?????
[16:51] <opieng> I did a aptitude search and thats what it came up with?
[16:52] <bobweaver> bear,  there is a bug for that on launchpad it also affects me.  bear  run        ubuntu-bug gnome-control-center
[16:52] <fidel> opieng: there was no error at all in your paste ;)
[16:52] <bobweaver> openvoid,  use apt-cache search <name of package >
[16:53] <bear> that is what I was trying to do to get it to run again thanks bobweaver
[16:53] <bear> i mean i can change it other ways just would be nice to do it in control-center
[16:53] <opieng> but when I tried to search for qt in my "search" section (sorry not sure what its called) and it could not find qt ??
[16:54] <fidel> opieng: so basically - your paste shows how it fetched the data of that specific package - unpacked it and did the core-setup
[16:54] <bobweaver> openvoid,  try    apt-cache search pyqt
[16:55] <ThinkT510> bobweaver: you keep tab completing the wrong nick
[16:55] <fidel> opieng: what do you mean by 'search function'?
[16:55] <anlarye> 12.04 doesn't display the splash screen on boot. monitor gives an error that it cannot display the current video mode. afterwards, i do get the login screen just fine. where can i go to fix the boot splash screen?
[16:55] <bobweaver> opps thanks ThinkT510
[16:55] <opieng> icon above my "Home Folder"
[16:56] <fidel> opieng: guess you mean the unity dash right?
[16:57] <opieng> fidel, yes the portal looking icon with a round white circle
[16:57] <bobweaver> anlarye,   try    sudo update-alternatives --config text.plymouth    then  sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth       see if it helps if not file a bug.    ubuntu-bug plymouth
[16:57] <bear> bobweaver thank you for helping me to submit it
[16:57] <anlarye> k will check those bobweaver
[16:57] <CasW> I don't suppose the HUD will still work if I remove appmenu-gtk3, appmenu-gtk and appmenu-qt (to disable global menu)?
[16:58] <bobweaver> np bear  wish It would work for mine also and stop crashing . Though I did get a new gnoe-control-panel this morning
[16:58] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[16:58] <bear> bobeweaver really????
[16:58] <bear> what is it?
[16:58] <fidel> opieng: tried starting it from cli? not using that package here - nor am i using unity - so i cant doublecheck if it act similar here.
[16:59] <Psi-Jack> Watching a full package-by-package reinstall is interesting. Seeing some error showing up that eventually go away after multitudes of packages get redownloaded, and reinstalled.
[16:59] <opieng> ok, not to worry, but sudo apt-get install .... is the right method to be using for the installation?
[16:59] <bobweaver> correct gnome-control-center keeps crashing over and over again I have 1:3.4.2-0  installed bear
[17:00] <fidel> opieng: yep: sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME
[17:00] <Foxhoundz> It worked!
[17:00] <Foxhoundz> PartedMagic seems to have fixed the issue
[17:00] <fidel> opieng: while: apt-cache search SEARCHSTRING  << will search the package informations for your SEARCHSTRING
[17:01] <opieng> what if I don'y know what the package name is? So far I have been using aptitude search PyQt
[17:01] <fidel> opieng: apt is acutaly pretty lovely if you get used to the basic commands;)
[17:01] <rochak> could anyone tell me who am I considered when browsing my localhost? am I world or username
[17:01] <Foxhoundz> Now the next step is finding drivers for my radeon card
[17:02] <bear> i am running 3.4.2
[17:02] <bobweaver> opieng,  use a *description*    apt-cache search qt creator    like that the package is not called that but it will search the apt cache to find it
[17:02] <opieng> ok thanks
[17:02] <bobweaver> bear,  yeah same thing and should be on +1 I would take it
[17:02] <opieng> slowly getting used to this...
[17:03] <opieng> I am from the Engineering community... TO ALL linux/ubuntu developers, please develop scientific and engineering software which is support by Linux in the future
[17:03] <xubuntu_> I need help in order to install ubuntu, partition problems
[17:03] <opieng> I want to stop using Windows
[17:03] <bear> came up with a samba4 error?
[17:03] <bobweaver> opieng,  there are many many books tutorials and all sorts of cool stuff out there. Once you "get it " you get it and will be able to do things that you would have never of imagined possible
[17:03] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: first one : b43-fwcutter installed...
[17:03] <fidel> opieng: you can for sure us some kind of software-center or apt-gui as well - but it will help you to udnerstand the basics of apt and cli-usage
[17:04] <truexfan81> anyone know where quvi stores its scripts on 12.04? the guy on #mplayer2 says it should be in /usr/share/quvi/lua/website/  but there is no quvi folder there, and i do have it installed from the repos
[17:04] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: but not the last one... b43-fwcutter-installter
[17:04] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  look again
[17:04] <opieng> Yes I want to get used to commands and... Bash is it called?
[17:04] <bobweaver> firmware-b43-installer      << that is what you want
[17:05] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  ^^
[17:05] <bobweaver> opieng,  read gregs manual
[17:05] <opieng> gregs?
[17:05] <bobweaver> opieng,  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[17:05] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: couldnt find package
[17:06] <vladimirsanchez> firmware-b43-installer.
[17:06] <opieng> ok thanks.
[17:06] <vladimirsanchez> :[
[17:06] <bear> just removed samba4
[17:06] <xubuntu_> anyone could help me with partition on dual boot on mini mac?
[17:06] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: already apt-get update ...
[17:06] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[17:07] <vladimirsanchez> :[ doesnt work
[17:07] <ranveer5289> truexfan81: for me it's in /usr/share/libquvi-scripts/lua/website
[17:08] <bobweaver> Oo      vladimirsanchez   pastebin  apt-cache search firmware b43       and also  what software sources are you using . in ubuntu software center go to edit __> software sources and see i9f one is not enabled maybe even 2 or 3 are not
[17:09] <xubuntu_> anyone could help me partition on dual boot on mini mac?
[17:09] <lickalott> not I
[17:10] <zeppo> i have an ubuntu server thats crashed
[17:10] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty! Time for the proof of concept, wether reinstalling ALL packages fixes the problem I had. ;)
[17:10] <zeppo> and i've booted it up in rescue mode. which logs should I be looking at?
[17:10] <lickalott> zeppo that was a widly vauge problem
[17:10] <zeppo> haha i know sorry
[17:11] <bobweaver> Psi-Jack,  you can also reconfigure packages that are installed dpkg-reconfigure <package name >
[17:11] <lickalott> when does it crash?  how often, what version are you running?
[17:11] <belgianguy> how do I switch my gfx accel to VESA?
[17:11] <hfic> !details | zeppo
[17:11] <zeppo> its a cloud server that wont boot up. i managed to get in in rescue mode so i can ssh in to it
[17:11] <belgianguy> as I want to test if my ATI driver is making Chrome act all weird
[17:11] <zeppo> and I'm not sure what exactly caused it to crash
[17:11] <zeppo> but it will only start in rescue mode
[17:11] <ikonia> zeppo: a.) what type of virtualzation is it running on b.) what version of ubuntu is it c.) what do you define as "crash"
[17:12] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: all but the opera Browser sources are enabled...
[17:12] <lickalott> /var/log may have some stuff.  /var/crash may have some stuff
[17:12] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Am I missing one?
[17:12] <Psi-Jack> Bobweaver: I know. But I had so many random things just crashing for no reason. Chrome, Skype, automount.
[17:12] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  screen sot ?
[17:12] <Psi-Jack> Chrome tabs specifically
[17:12] <vladimirsanchez> O_o ... brb
[17:12] <zeppo> ubuntu 11.10 on rackspace
[17:13] <ikonia> zeppo: what sort of virtualization
[17:13] <zeppo> just realised that it was down, can only bring it up in rescue mode. so I'm not sure what caused it
[17:13] <ikonia> zeppo: what happens when you try to boot it normally
[17:13] <zeppo> nothing
[17:13] <Psi-Jack> Zeppo. Call rackspace
[17:13] <ikonia> zeppo: what do you mean "nothing" - please explain the problem, or it's just wasting time
[17:13] <bobweaver> whats dmesg have to say ? zeppo
[17:14] <ikonia> dmesg isn't going to be much good as he's booted into rescue mode
[17:14] <zeppo> i did. they told me to boot it in rescue mode
[17:14] <lickalott> if you boot the server can you get a ping through?  maybe ssh in to see if you can review logs?
[17:14] <ikonia> zeppo: please tell me what happens when you try to boot it normally
[17:15] <Psi-Jack> zeppo: You do not control much of the bootup process in a Rackspace Cloud Server. Heck, you don't even have access to choose what kernel boots, THEY do. You're best best is to call Rackspace support, trust me.
[17:15] <zeppo> alright i'll call them up again
[17:15] <Jagst3r15> is it reccommended to upgrade to 12.04.1 from 12.04?
[17:15] <zeppo> thanks guys
[17:15] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: yes
[17:15] <Jagst3r15> how come i dont get an upgrade message
[17:15] <ikonia> because it's not an upgrade, just some package updates
[17:16] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[17:16] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: http://imgur.com/U7H1k
[17:16] <Psi-Jack> Well, so far... Not too shabby. But my Skype is all Qt-ified in looks now. :/
[17:16] <Jagst3r15> ikonia will system detailssay 12.04.1 or is there no way to tell
[17:17] <xangua> Jagst3r15: if you install security updates you already  have it
[17:17] <ikonia> lsb-release will show the version
[17:17] <dr_willis> !versiin
[17:17] <dr_willis> oops.  :-(
[17:17] <bear> man this stinks
[17:18] <Jagst3r15> lsb release dont work :C
[17:18] <ikonia> lsb-release does work
[17:18] <Jagst3r15> says package not found
[17:18] <Jagst3r15> or command not found
[17:18] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: man lsb-release
[17:18] <dr_willis> spelling counts....
[17:18] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: note the "lsb-release" not "lsb release"
[17:18] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  I am not sure why you can not see that. try to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10796508
[17:19] <bobweaver> and it is lsb_release
[17:19] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: could it be opendns ?
[17:19] <ikonia> ahh _ not -
[17:19] <ikonia> thank you
[17:19] <dr_willis> !version
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> lsb_release
[17:19] <bobweaver> or just cat the file it lives under etc
[17:19] <Jagst3r15> ty guys
[17:20] <rictoo> hey guys, i dont get unity.
[17:20] <bobweaver> wonder if update-manager config file is set to something that it should not be ?
[17:21] <rictoo> am i supposed to constantly alt+tab between apps?
[17:21] <fidel> rictoo: well you could use somekind of 'dock' or similar
[17:21] <bobweaver> rictoo,  press suoer+w
[17:21] <fidel> there are tons of different ways how to handle window-management
[17:21] <bobweaver> super *
[17:21] <rictoo> cinnamon was beautiful, but i couldn't get compiz working with it (i love changing window opacities - makes things productive)
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: If you have the model number
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4301
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4306
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4320
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4324
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> Then you are going to need the b43-fwcutter with the firmware-b43legacy-installer
[17:21] <FloodBot1> vladimirsanchez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <truexfan81> ranveer5289: thanks
[17:22] <rictoo> bobweaver, that's great, but it's still quicker to use a mouse
[17:22] <rictoo> fidel, which one do you recommend? i've seen so many. is there some go-to dock?
[17:22] <cefege123> how can I install 'Additional drivers' program? ( I am running ubuntu server with minimal wm)
[17:22] <bobweaver> rictoo,  hold down super
[17:22] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I think it should be firmware-b43legacy-installer correct?
[17:22] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  read
[17:22] <bobweaver> I wrote that
[17:23] <fidel> rictoo: nah ...thats pretty user-specific. i loved tint & awn .. but both are pretty special somehow ;)
[17:23] <centrelink> cefege123: its called jockey
[17:24] <bobweaver> rictoo,  you can see that you can use things like holding down super and pressing the number that corresponds to the doc app (I use that all day long )
[17:24] <cefege123> centrelink : I tried, not found...
[17:24] <Psi-Jack> Well, this seems like a total success. ;)
[17:24]  * Psi-Jack crosses fingersd.
[17:25] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: allright ... I'll follow it up...
[17:26] <sternfan2012> Anyone know how to get to #edubuntu
[17:26] <sternfan2012> ?
[17:26] <Psi-Jack> Bleh, Still fullscreening flash stuff in Chrome gets up on HALF my screen, (as if the center was both monitors)
[17:26] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I'll let you know how/if it worked
[17:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  there is also http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[17:26] <fidel> sternfan2012: enter: /j #CHANNELNAME
[17:26] <lickalott> sternfan2012 type /j #edubuntu
[17:26] <lickalott> i'm sitting in there right now.
[17:27] <bobweaver> look at the part 4320 that is the important part vladimirsanchez  that is why you need the name and the number aka -nn  on lspci
[17:27] <kantlivelong> anyone here get alot of crashing on 12.04?
[17:27] <tiredbones> I currently have ubunto 9.10 and I download 12.04.  After about 2 mins.  of trying to install 12.01 I get the error, "EDD error 1000 ...". My web search said to add "ebb=off" to grub. How to do thid??
[17:27] <kantlivelong> constant crash reports..
[17:27] <lickalott> we automatically assumed he was using mirc...lol
[17:27] <tiredbones> I currently have ubunto 9.10 and I download 12.04.  After about 2 mins.  of trying to install 12.01 I get the error, "EDD error 1000 ...". My web search said to add "ebb=off" to grub. How to do this??
[17:27] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I thought I had the 4306 per the file i sent you..
[17:28] <cefege123> how can I install 'Additional drivers' program? ( I am running ubuntu server with minimal wm)
[17:28] <kantlivelong> cefege123: why not just install the driver from cli?
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: nvr mind..
[17:28] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  the part that is in [14e4:<Most important part >]
[17:28] <yeats> !info jockey-text | cefege123
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I saw it..
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> :d
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> :d
[17:28] <FloodBot1> vladimirsanchez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <yeats> oops
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> :D
[17:28] <bobweaver> :)
[17:29] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: allright... let me tinker with it...
[17:29] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: thx a lot..
[17:29] <cefege123> kantlivelong : how can I do that?
[17:29] <fidel> cefege123: jockey or maybe jockey-gtk?
[17:29] <yeats> cefege123: try 'sudo apt-get install jockey-common'
[17:29] <kantlivelong> cefege123: what driver do you need?
[17:29] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: btw, should I upgrade to 12.04 ppc ?
[17:29] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: I'd say so.
[17:29] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: Your upgrade path isn't direct though.
[17:30] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: It seems I'd have to continue tinkering to keep it going...
[17:30] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  np anytime I want to let you know that I am doing this so that you can learn more about your mod/driver I would hold your hand and walk you though but if you learn now you will always know :)
[17:30] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: You will have to install 11.04, 11.10, then 12.04
[17:30] <tesuji> Quick Question: I logged in with gnome classic in 12.04 and i love the activities but i also want a window bar. how can i manage to do that? the forum post i got didnt help (which suggested installing gnome-panel which was already there)
[17:30] <cefege123> I have an ati 9600, I was hopping the program would take care of that
[17:30] <tesuji> vladimirsanchez, I unfortunatedly had to do that too, but it worked well
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: thx, it's exactly what I wanted... It's good to have a helping hand... then fly solo... ;)
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: tesuji : thx for the recommendations...
[17:31]  * bobweaver high fives  vladimirsanchez
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, What does window bar mean to you?
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> I really want to keep my PPC PB17
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> :D
[17:31] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, I mean the bar that lists all the windows
[17:31] <AnDsO> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183966/   help :)
[17:31] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: Yet, it's already a paperweight.
[17:31] <j4rg0n> tesuji: do you mean the dock?
[17:32] <xangua> tesuji: tried the gnome plugin web¿ may find something there
[17:32] <vladimirsanchez> :[ i know... it's on life support ... both on Apple and Ubuntu..
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, Ah, I use cairo-dock as a extra bar myself
[17:32] <bobweaver> !details | AnDsO,
[17:32] <AnDsO> coming to it
[17:33] <bobweaver> thanks AnDsO
[17:33] <AnDsO> net-snmp installtion
[17:33] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, j4rg0n: i dont mean the apple like cairo dock. I upgraded from 11.04 with the classic gnome and there was the application bar on top and the window bar at the bottom
[17:33] <j4rg0n> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 in vmware player and tryin to get my webcam work useing cheese but get a device not found error anyone else use vmware player know how to get it to find webcam
[17:33] <j4rg0n> actually never mind i just answered my own question
[17:34] <tiredbones> Psi-Jack, your advice to vladimirsanchez, sound like I should do the same. I have 9,10 and I want to install 12.04. would I also need to install 11.04, 11.10 and then 12.04?
[17:34] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, j4rg0n: like this http://www.liberiangeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gnome_ubuntu_panel_thumb.png
[17:34] <Psi-Jack> tiredbones: 9.10? You can go to 10.04 and then LTS to LTS upgrade to 12.04
[17:34] <Lee_Sharp> #ubuntu-x
[17:34] <Lee_Sharp> join #ubuntu-x
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, I have not looked at the gnome2 like desktop for awhile so but I think it has a right click to add to the bars like the old gnome2, I believe there is another key like alt for moving them
[17:36] <tiredbones> Psi-Jack, thanks for the advice/
[17:36] <cefege123> Installed ATI drivers from console and I get this error when I type fglrxinfo -> http://pastebin.com/xb9WZbhB
[17:36] <sternfan2012> Anyone use Edubutu out there?  I have a few Qs
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, Or the alt with a right click to see the apps to add to the bar.
[17:37] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, yeah I have tried that, but it doesnt work, thanks for your ideas. I never thought an old school linux fan like me would ask for cosmetic things ;) but it just feels like its made for tablets
[17:37] <yeats> cefege123: seen this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81344/how-to-fix-error-with-ati-driver-error-of-failed-request
[17:37] <Psi-Jack> tiredbones: yeah, 10.04 desktop still has a till 13.04's release for support. ;)
[17:37] <smart1> hey there, i want to create a vnc session and want to get acces to my actual screen
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, I use gnome 3 at this time myself, but there are about 50 different desktop possibilities
[17:38] <smart1> but just find tutorials for ssh x11 connections
[17:38] <bobweaver> wilee-nilee,  such a good point IceWM all the way j/k
[17:38] <AnDsO> anyone i was tryin to compile net-snmp 5.71 something is missing and m getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183966/  using ubuntu server  runnin ubuntu server 12.04
[17:38] <macsim> hi, do you know if I can rotate only one of my dualscreen with nvidia card ?
[17:38] <sternfan2012> smart1 - try XVNC
[17:39] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, the new gnome makes the titlebar of a window part of the "activities bar" (sorry I dont know its real name) so I guess it wouldnt make sense to move it around a lot or clutter it with windows. I am just wondering if i can get a list of opened windows constantly on the screen without going to the activites overview
[17:40] <cefege123> yeats:  I have no xorg.conf
[17:40] <fidel> tesuji: use some kind of dock
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, Gnome 3 has an exstension that sits ion the bar, has to be clicked to show the desktops with windows but not what is actually open.
[17:41] <tesuji> fidel, yeah i will probably get cairo
[17:41] <tesuji> thanks guys
[17:41] <fidel> tesuji: if you are into gnome 3 - there is a lovely extension called: Panel Docklet
[17:42] <tesuji> fidel, I will check it out! it has been 2 years since i upgraded this machine
[17:42] <fidel> butthere are tons of others as cairo, tint2, docky, awn etc ..have fun testing them
[17:42] <yeats> cefege123: did you see the first answer to the question (about fgrlx being blacklisted)?  the solution doesn't require you to have an xorg.conf
[17:42] <tesuji> fidel, I only used work related distros
[17:44] <cefege123> yeats:  yes, nothing is blacklisted
[17:45] <cefege123> yeats:  I used this tutorial to help me out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:46] <bnwkeys> OK feeling really stupid, deadmund helped me get wifi working on my laptop, but apparently it didn't save the changes to my kernel. I have the firmware files I need to make it work, but could someone remind me to install these packages?
[17:46] <tesuji> bnwkeys, its usually a modprobe
[17:46] <tesuji> bnwkeys, best save it in a startup script
[17:48] <bnwkeys> So as I build this system, I need to add package installs to startup scripts?
[17:48] <bnwkeys> <- total noob :/
[17:48] <tesuji> fidel, Thank you! docky is almost what I needed. and its apparently "no fuss" according to the readme ;)
[17:49] <tesuji> bnwkeys, pleas prefix your messages with names you want to talk to it was just luck i saw yours ^^
[17:49] <natsirt> Is Linux or Windows better?
[17:50] <gregoryfenton> Please don't feed the troll ^^
[17:50] <fidel> natsirt: there is no better/best in that
[17:50] <AnDsO> work=linux toy=windows
[17:50] <hfic> natsirt, that's a very open ended question .. please don't troll
[17:50] <natsirt> hfic: How am I trolling?
[17:50] <fidel> and yeah - see thetroll thing & even ask yourself if you would ask apple in the applestore if they are better then microsoft or not
[17:50] <tesuji> bnwkeys, how do you get it to work by hand?
[17:50] <fidel> question just doesnt make sense ;)
[17:51] <tesuji> natsirt, the same way somebody is trolling who says who is better mozart or hayden
[17:51] <tesuji> natsirt, many different oppinions, preferences and whatnot
[17:51] <natsirt> fidel: You will never find me in an Apple store
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> chopin
[17:51] <bnwkeys> Tesuji, plz excuse my slow typing. Having to use my phone until I can get wifi working on this laptop
[17:51] <gregoryfenton> natsirt, the same way you posted a forkbomb yesterday
[17:51] <tesuji> bnwkeys, no problem i will stay on for you ;)
[17:52] <natsirt> I think Linux is better, just no as user friendly :)
[17:52] <tesuji> bnwkeys, usually there is a command 'modprobe kernelmodule'
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> natsirt, you might want #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:52] <natsirt> gregoryfenton: Plase quit living in the past. I am a new man now.
[17:52] <cefege123> How can I install ati drivers from TERMINAL?
[17:52] <usr13> natsirt: It is obvious.  (Assuming that was a legit question....)  If you ask here, folks will say Linux.  If you ask in #windows, folks will say Windows. (It's not rocket science.)
[17:52] <Guest33135> hello?
[17:52] <Guest33135> i have a question
[17:53] <sternfan2012> what's the channel for ubuntu server?
[17:53] <tesuji> bnwkeys, if you have that command look at /etc/initrc or something similar (cant remember) so it gets started at startup
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> Guest33135, then ask it. ;)
[17:53] <silver86> yes james ?
[17:53] <Guest33135> why are my youtube videos or any other music i try playing are fastforward?
[17:53] <Psi-Jack> Bah, son of a....
[17:53] <natsirt> usr13: I am shocked there is a #windows channel on freenode. I thought you were trollin me at 1st
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> sternfan2012, #ubuntu-server
[17:53] <tesuji> bnwkeys, if you cannot remember the command its very hard to help you sorry, maybe somebody else knows your wifi hardware, but i cannot help
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Chrome tabs are STILL crashing randomly. :(
[17:54] <bnwkeys> Tesuji, I have wl-apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o and broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>, I need to write them to the kernel
[17:54] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, not here
[17:54] <sternfan2012> thanks wilee
[17:54] <usr13> natsirt: Can I PM you?
[17:54] <Calinou> Psi-Jack, get chromium
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Calinou: No.
[17:54] <fidel> sternfan2012: you might ask inhere if you cant find a better matching channel
[17:54] <Calinou> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
[17:54] <Calinou> it's the same Fing thing
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: Mine started doing it at home.
[17:54] <Calinou> better privacy and open source
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Calinou: No, it's not.
[17:54] <Calinou> or, quit trolling
[17:54] <Calinou> it is.
[17:54] <Calinou> lrn2installflash if you're that inclined about that
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Calinou: Go look up the meaning of trolling.
[17:54] <Calinou> no u
[17:54] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <hfic> !ot
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[17:55] <silver86> james have you tried updating adobe flash ?
[17:55] <silver86> or any flash player your using
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: Mine just started doing so, randomly out of the blue one day, then other things started to crash, like skype, caffeine, even automount.
[17:55] <tesuji> bnwkeys, if you have the module try 'man modprobe' to see your options. but i think it should just be 'modprobe module'
[17:55] <kubanc> how do i change port for remote deskrop connection in ubuntu 12.04 i've tried in gconf-editor with alternative port string but no results
[17:55] <Guest33135> hm i will try
[17:55] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, that sounds like an addon problem, I had those before
[17:56] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, on every os too
[17:56] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: I thought so too,. but it's not /just/ chrome. And it's happening on a clean install of chrome.
[17:56] <natsirt> I wasn't trying to troll, maybe I should have asked in a different way or something, sorry.
[17:56] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: And like I said, skype is doing it now, automount, caffeine too.
[17:56] <sternfan2012> Fidel - I have some Edubuntu/LTSP Qs
[17:56] <linuxdude> hello
[17:56] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, that could be dbus or something with your network
[17:57] <sternfan2012> any edubuntu admins out there?
[17:57] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, either way thats a whole lot of hurt
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: Yes, indeed, it is.
[17:57] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, backup your data my friend, fast ^^
[17:57] <bnwkeys> Tesuji, excuse my denseness, how do I know the name of the "modules", oh or is it those files, and I just have to be in the same dir ...
[17:57] <bekks> sternfan2012: Just ask your questions :)
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: It's all backed up. :)
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> sternfan2012, admins don't really hang on the irc in the support channels
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: ANd I know it's not hardware problems.
[17:58] <__diamondi_> what are some of the draw backs of using ACL for authorization?
[17:58] <bekks> __diamondi_: ACL cannot be used fpr authorization, they are for advanced permission control.
[17:59] <sternfan2012> Q - if I set up LTSP and need to log websites visited - will each individual thin client be in the log?  Or just the Edubuntu server itself since everything goes through it?
[17:59] <tesuji> bnwkeys, it should be something like 'modprobe bw54' that was something similar to my laptop. you probably have to be in the same directory where the module is located but I am really not sure. I am not the best person to answer your question. Wait for 10 minutes and ask again in allchat
[17:59] <sternfan2012> Does that make sense?
[17:59] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, try dmesg
[17:59] <__diamondi_> bekks:by authorization i mean file system accesses
[18:01] <kubanc> where do i change remote port in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:01] <michelfp_> I'm trying to compile Seeborg 0.51 but I get the error "make: g++ Command not found"
[18:01] <michelfp_> Do I need to install any package?
[18:02] <tesuji> michaelfp_, get gcc compilertools and the like
[18:02] <Dragonfly> Hi there everyone. I need help with editing DTDT on my Toshiba Satellite. can anybody help ?
[18:02] <tesuji> the f is dtdt
[18:02] <tesuji> sounds like a tv show
[18:03] <tesuji> sorry ignore me ^^
[18:03] <youngsam> Research address: 55 RUE LAMARCK 75018
[18:03] <tesuji> no doxing
[18:05] <paolina> #ubuntu-it
[18:06] <anlarye> michelfp_: you need to install the build-essenials (not sure of the exact name) package in order to use make and to build from source
[18:06] <bnwkeys> Tesuji OK thanks
[18:06] <bnwkeys> How about this question, how do I write object files onto the kernel
[18:06] <glenn> how to set the programs so that when i click on a pdf he automaticly acrobad reader start
[18:06] <paolina> ciao sono sul canale italiano
[18:08] <TimothyA> what's the best way to DD a RAID-0 (mdadm) drive?
[18:08] <zorbama> Hello, how do I find out the name of buttons on my tablet to use as reference for key mapping?
[18:10] <emph> I'm trying to watch a movie with the player installed by default in Ubuntu, but occasionally it freezes, how come?
[18:10] <glenn> how can i set it so when i click on a pdf file in ubuntu 12.04 that he start acrobad reader
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> glenn, right click the pdf then properties then open with
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> set the pdf reader as default
[18:12] <zorbama> \repeat
[18:12] <glenn> wilee-nilee,thnx i found it by my self
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> cool glenn
[18:12] <zorbama> how do I find out the name of buttons on my tablet to use as reference for key mapping?
[18:13] <emph> Can anybody help me? How come my movie freezes while I'm watching it? This didn't happen to me in Windows, so it's not my computer's fault
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> zorbama, keyboard app
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> emph, that is a bad cause and effect.
[18:13] <tesuji> emph: which player
[18:13] <aaas> emph just the movie or the computer?  have you tried different players?
[18:13] <theseb> why is the 64bit ubuntu iso called amd64? is AMD the only company that makes 64bit cpus?
[18:14] <zorbama> wilee-nilee: It's not a keyboard, but a Wacom tablet. I tried using the GUI to map buttons, but it doesn't work. I'm trying to configure it with xsetwacom or /etc/X11/x.conf.d
[18:14] <Guest13234> hi i removed deepin from my system and want to reboot to see changes plz tell me how i update grub for generate new grub .iam on ubuntu 12.04
[18:14] <emph> emp: thanks wilee, really helpful
[18:14] <tesuji> theseb: they defined the first 64 bit architecture
[18:14] <emph> tesuji: the one installed by default on ubuntu
[18:15] <emph> aaas: just the movie, I tried VLC
[18:15] <tesuji> emph: please install vlc and tell us what happens then
[18:15] <WHAT_LEFT> what would be the best way to copy a file as it's being written to?
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> emph, no nproblem but your question makes no sense it is lacking any real substance.
[18:15] <theseb> tesuji: thanks...i have a Intel Core 2 Quad CPU    Q9550.....is that 64bit?
[18:15] <tesuji> emph: if it still stalls post your dmesg output on pastebin
[18:15] <emph> tesuji: I'll try again with VLC
[18:15] <aaas> emph try playing from command line with mplayer/ffmpeg , maybe it will throw an error?
google that
[18:15] <WHAT_LEFT> theseb: yes
[18:15] <mityaz> : theseb yep
[18:16] <tesuji> theseb: yes thats 64 bit
[18:16] <emph> aaas: what exactly am I supposed to write in the terminal, before that? gksudo?
[18:16] <Guest13234> thats good 64 bit
[18:16] <theseb> Sorry one last question....does 64 bit ubuntu work well?  i've heard on IRC of people having issues w/ 64 bit java and flash iirc
[18:16] <tesuji> theseb: but 32 bit applications generally work better unless you need precision computing
[18:16] <Guddu> I have a file install.sh.....I also did a sudo chmod +x install.sh .... Now when i execute the file by just giving the name on the command prompt and pressing enter it says install.sh : command not found....What am i missing?
[18:17] <theseb> (Can I run 32bit apps on 64bit ubuntu i.e?
[18:17] <WHAT_LEFT> you can't directly, but there are ways to do so
[18:17] <tesuji> theseb: I have 64bit and everything works
[18:17] <Guddu> theseb:  I am using 64 bit and it works just fine.
[18:17] <aaas> emph depending on your proficiency..navigate to the directory with the movie file and try 'mplayer <name of movie>' or 'ffmpeg <name of movie>'
[18:17] <WHAT_LEFT> theseb: i use 64 bit and things seem to work well
[18:17] <theseb> tesuji: wait...did you install 64bit or are you making the case it is better to install 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit cpu?
[18:17] <Guddu> theseb:  32 bit programs will work fine on 64bit (in emulation mode).
[18:17] <tesuji> aaas, let him try vlc first
[18:18] <aaas> tesuji no ;)
[18:18] <emph> wilee-nilee: There's no "bad cause and effect", using Windows I was able to watch movies with ease, now I can't, therefore it's not my hardware but rather my software.
[18:18] <Guddu> WHAT_LEFT:  What is the way to do that? Please let me know
[18:18] <mityaz> I also suggest trying VLC first. Best player
[18:18]  * WHAT_LEFT left
[18:18] <emph> aaas: To be honest, I have no idea how to do that, I'm a newbie using Linux
[18:19] <gpsalessandro> djvjkjf
[18:19] <tesuji> theseb: kindof both. I installed 64 bit and 2 years ago it took me a while to get things to work. Now i reinstalled 64bit and it worked fine too. what I am saying is that you should get both types of applications for things that like hardware
[18:19] <sternfan2012> go to Software Center and install VLC
[18:19] <theseb> tesuji: thanks
[18:19] <aaas> emph well just try different players first you should have several listed in the menu
[18:19] <tesuji> aaas: hehe ^^
[18:19] <mityaz> or open your console termianl and type sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:19] <emph> aaas: Ok, thanks, I'll try the VLC again now
[18:19] <sternfan2012> VLC runs pretty much everything
[18:20] <theseb> tesuji: is 64bit FASTER? there must be some advantage otherwise why not just put the more reliable 32bit ubuntu on your machine?
[18:20] <Guest13234> hello peps does i need update grub after deleting linux deepin partition from my ubuntu system to reboot again to ubuntu
[18:20] <emph> sternfan2012: It's not really that the player I use can't run the movie, it's that the movie freezes sometimes for some mysterious reason
[18:20] <tesuji> theseb: no its not faster
[18:20] <theseb> tesuji: *sigh*..then what is the point?
[18:20] <tesuji> theseb: it depends on your memory
[18:20] <Cpudan80> Hey
[18:20] <sternfan2012> I use 64-bit on virtually everything - nothing to worry about
[18:21] <Guest13234> what u people think about umplayer best media player
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: there is only so much room for memory adresses in 32 bits of space
[18:21] <theseb> tesuji: really? i just got 32bit all nice and i'm not sure if i should REINSTALL w/ 64bit ubuntu
[18:21] <Cpudan80> How can I have the window size displayed when resizing the window? (12.04/GNOME)
[18:21] <Marzata> "Your clock is 9.0 seconds ahead." and ntp works? a fix?
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: how much memory do you have
[18:21] <gordonjcp> if you're not using more than 4GB of RAM, there's not a lot of point in using 64-bit
[18:21] <theseb> tesuji: 4 gigs
[18:21] <sternfan2012> 32-bit tops out at 4gb ram
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: 32 bit is fine then
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: the speedups are SOOOO small you would not notice them. they are around 8%
[18:21] <gordonjcp> sternfan2012: unless you use PAE
[18:21] <theseb> gordonjcp: aha! yes i rem that....the point of 64bit is to *ACCESS* more than 4Gb ram
[18:22] <mityaz> sternfan2012: I'd say 3.5 RAM
[18:22] <theseb> gordonjcp: now it is coming back to me
[18:22] <gordonjcp> theseb: but as I said, you can get round that with PAE
[18:22] <sternfan2012> yeah gordon - I have an old dell server that is 32-bit but takes 8gb ram
[18:22] <mityaz> PAE is bad practice
[18:22] <gordonjcp> if you use 64-bit OSes of any sort, get used to reporting bugs
[18:22] <ThinkT510> mityaz +1
[18:22] <gordonjcp> *nothing* works properly in 64-bit
[18:22] <mityaz> It's usually slower with PAE
[18:22] <tesuji> gordonjcp: complete bs my friend
[18:22] <ThinkT510> gordonjcp: that is utter rubbish
[18:22] <mityaz> gordonjcp: don't believe that :P
[18:23] <tesuji> gordonjcp: this system works find
[18:23] <tesuji> fine*
[18:23] <gordonjcp> every piece of software out there has got some sort of open bug due to 32/64-bit issues
[18:23] <gordonjcp> everything
[18:23] <mityaz> you know, some linux distros are thinking of giving up *good-old* x86 and stay at x86-64
[18:23] <sternfan2012> I have servers, desktops and laptops all running 64-bit = just fine
[18:23] <gordonjcp> it may not be a hugely important bug, but it's there
[18:23] <tesuji> you are supposing a piece of code is perfect on 32bit then?
[18:23] <mityaz> 64 used to suck about 4-5 years ago. now it's fine
[18:23] <sternfan2012> the only real reason to use 32-bit is if the hardware is 32-bit
[18:23] <gordonjcp> mityaz: it's getting better
[18:24] <gordonjcp> but only because we keep filing bugs
[18:24] <emph> aaas: I downloaded VLC, I played the movie, but it's the same: It all goes smooth but then sometimes it slows down or downright freezes for somet ime
[18:24] <tesuji> not because youre filing bugs, but because somebody is fixing them, ffs
[18:24] <gordonjcp> I'm about to drop 64-bit Precise on this machine and switch back to 32-bit
[18:24] <adoet_t> hello, can i install KDE dektop on gnome 12.04 ? with separated account ?
[18:24] <tesuji> whats wrong with you
[18:24] <gordonjcp> tesuji: can't fix 'em if you don't know about 'em
[18:24] <aaas> emph do you have other movies to try
[18:25] <sternfan2012> emph - do you have enough hardware to run what you are trying to do?
[18:25] <tesuji> gordonjcp: wait
[18:25] <gordonjcp> adoet_t: if you install KDE it will show up in the login screen as an option
[18:25] <ThinkT510> !kde | adoet_t
[18:25] <emph> aaas: Not really, at least for now, but the movie did work well with the windows player on windows
[18:25] <theseb> gordonjcp: lol...you are about to do the exact OPPOSITE of what i'm debating
[18:25] <emph> sternfan2012: Yes, more than enough
[18:25] <gordonjcp> theseb: have you got a good reason to switch?
[18:25] <gordonjcp> theseb: if it works, don't fix it
[18:25] <aaas> emph do you know how to open a terminal?
[18:26] <emph> aaas: Yes
[18:26] <aaas> emph navigate the terminal at all?
[18:26] <tesuji> never mind
[18:26] <emph> aaas: I can open it... lol
[18:26]  * aaas 's motto if it works, upgrade it ;)
[18:26] <sternfan2012> did you install the "restricted extras"?
[18:26] <emph> aaas: I only know gksudo, that's al for commands
[18:26] <theseb> gordonjcp: i just figured if you got the hardware why not use it like it was meant to be used
[18:26] <aaas> emph do you know the directory your movie is in?
[18:26] <emph> aaas: Yes
[18:26] <gordonjcp> theseb: it'll work, but flash will be even flakier than usual
[18:27] <aaas> emph do you know how to use the cd command and pwd?
[18:27] <shadedpixel> Can somebody help me with this? http://pastebin.com/dz6TJahN
[18:27] <emph> aaas: no
[18:27] <gordonjcp> theseb: firefox and thunderbird will consume twice as much memory and frequently go spinning off into 100% CPU usage
[18:27] <ThinkT510> emph: cd /where/you/want/to/go
[18:27] <aaas> emph ill msg you so we don't spam the channel and hold your hand through the terminal ;)
[18:27] <emph> ThinkT510: thanks, then gksudo is to execute a program?
[18:28] <iim> hi
[18:28] <emph> aaas: alright and thanks, aaas
[18:28] <exaem> emph: gksudo is to execute a graphical program
[18:28] <emph> exaem: oh, okay
[18:28] <shadedpixel> Oh and thank you in advance
[18:28] <theseb> gordonjcp: then how come 2 people few min ago just said all is fine for them? maybe that was the story 2 yrs ago?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> emph: gksudo is for launching graphical apps as root
[18:28] <tesuji> iim, dont ask to ask, just ask
[18:28] <cat-orze> hola
[18:28] <iim> ping <IP_ADDRESS>1
[18:28] <iim> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:29] <tesuji> is he slow or something?
[18:29] <exaem> tesuji: hey man, don't be rude :-)
[18:29] <tesuji> exaem: sorry
[18:29] <gordonjcp> theseb: maybe they've got 16GB of RAM
[18:30] <Guest13234> i dont know will i get ubuntu back after reboot .......lol.
[18:30] <tesuji> exaem: youre a good man/woman thanks
[18:30] <shadedpixel> http://pastebin.com/dz6TJahN Please?
[18:30] <flametai1> Hi everyone I have an Acer Aspire V5-471 with a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 wireless card and I can't get any internet working on it, it doesn't have an ethernet port, anyone have any ideas on how to get it going?
[18:30] <tesuji> Guest13234: Have a livedvd ready
[18:30] <theseb> gordonjcp: kind of funny that your memory usage gets punished if you're man enough to try 64bit
[18:31] <xangua> shadedpixel: normally people give a description of their problem Here
[18:31] <Smitham> Hello, I'm trying to install Matlab 2012a on my Ubuntu 12.04x64 system.  I'm having trouble getting JRE 7 to install
 ihave live usb
[18:31] <ThinkT510> shadedpixel: 10.10 is no longer supported
[18:31] <theadmin> shadedpixel: 10.10 is dead
[18:31] <Guest13234> but tell me how i update grub entry i deleted deepin linux partition just
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> !grub > keshav
[18:33] <Newtoubuntu> hey all again. i am unable to mount my main windows  HD partition. i used the ntfs config tool and had it working fine for days and now i can not mount it. how can i fix this?
[18:33] <tesuji> keshav: good make a live bootable thing, do your stuff and cross your fingers
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> Newtoubuntu, might the ntfs need a chkdsc?
[18:34] <tesuji> keshav: then you can recover anytime
[18:34] <Newtoubuntu> wilee-nilee, i doubt it. : /
[18:35] <larsvdv> can anyone help me im new on ubuntu but my graphics card is leaking.. its crap how can i fix this ?
[18:35] <Smitham> can anyone tell me how to install JRE 7 on my 12.04x64 system?
[18:35] <tesuji> how do you think, after steam goes to linux, can we make the welcome proper?
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> Newtoubuntu, How are you trying to mount it, at boot in a terminal from the side panel in home?
[18:35] <exaem> tesuji: buy games on it
[18:36] <tesuji> exaem: no thats for people who already use linux, how about people who have only heard of it
[18:36] <sternfan2012> flametail - I would try a USB nic
[18:37] <onlylove> does anyone who use a wcdma modem? i can't dial with a zte mf100
[18:37] <veric> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[18:38] <theseb> tesuji, gordonjcp: thank you very much for the help
[18:38] <tesuji> theseb: no problem you know we love you
[18:39] <s1n4> hey, how can I select text in terminal using keyboard?
[18:40] <theadmin> s1n4: You can't really do that
[18:41] <s1n4> theadmin: why the heck?
[18:41] <flametai1> Hi everyone I have an Acer Aspire V5-471 with a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 wireless card and I can't get any internet working on it, it doesn't have an ethernet port, anyone have any ideas on how to get it going?
[18:41] <theadmin> s1n4: Because all keyboard presses are transmitted to the shell?
[18:41] <j4rg0n> is there a way to turn of the join and quit notices in here
[18:42] <flametai1> The card will see networks but it won't load webpages or anything
[18:42] <theadmin> j4rg0n: Depends on your client. Try: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[18:42] <j4rg0n> I'm using irssi
[18:42] <theadmin> j4rg0n: Then that, yeah
[18:43] <j4rg0n> thanks hard to read with em all goin a mile a minute
[18:43] <sternfan2012> what is "deepin"?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> sternfan2012: another distro, unsupported here
[18:43] <Cpudan80> Hey I've got a problem with xhcat in gnome, the title bar takes up too much space and expands onto two lines...
[18:43] <Cpudan80> See http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9366/screenshotfrom201209031.png
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: most strange, i've never come accross that
[18:43] <Cpudan80> ThinkT510: you're using gnome (vs unity)?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: unity 12.04
[18:43] <Cpudan80> yeah I switched it to gnome...
[18:43] <Cpudan80> Is there a specific gnome channel for ubuntu?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: no
[18:43] <Cpudan80> resizing the window has no effect btw
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: haha, you read my mind, i was about to suggest that
[18:43] <FloodBot1> Cpudan80: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:44] <flametai1> I take it nobody knows???
[18:45] <Psi-Jack> It /should/ be safe to uninstall all packages with :i386 in them, correct? Without adverse system-side effects?
[18:45] <sternfan2012> flametail - encryption?  wep? wpa? wpa2?
[18:45] <flametai1> sternfan2012: WEP Hex
[18:45] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Well, yeah... Unless you're on a 32-bit system
[18:45] <sternfan2012> flame - can you pin anything?
[18:45] <ray76> flametail can you ping any servers through the connection
[18:46] <wilsonbradley> Howdy
[18:46] <sternfan2012> ping the default gateway
[18:46] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Yeah, 64-bit system/OS here, so good there.
[18:46] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: Should be, there are a few packages that are i386 only but you would have installed those yourself, they aren't default.
[18:46] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Reinstall of all packages was a success, so far. Except that Chrome is still having some issues.
[18:46] <flametai1> Haven't attempted to, TBH I'm not the brightest when it comes to the commands for Linux sternfan2012
[18:46] <Psi-Jack> IdleOne: Perfect. I do know I installed /some/ 32-bit packages myself just for Second Life to run, but that's it.
[18:47] <sternfan2012> in the menus - find Network Tools
[18:47] <Benxyzzy> Anybody know of a soulseek client suitable for ubuntu server?
[18:48] <jcheung> don't suppose anyone knows how i can change the server? xD
[18:48] <DDAZZA> Hi I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.4 ona acer aspire D257.  I've managed to install ubuntu with a usb however when I turn on the netbook it doesn't go to the grub screen unless I boot with the usb. Any ideas how I can resolve this?
[18:48] <ray76> flametail open a terminal and type "ping www.google.com"   CTRL c  cancels
[18:48] <rhombus> What is the name of the Ubuntu package manager?
[18:48] <rhombus> I should point out that I am a Gentoo user who is setting up a machine for a family member.
[18:48] <theadmin> rhombus: APT is the name of the whole thing. apt-get is the tool to work with it.
[18:48] <flametai1> ray76: And if it can't do that is there a fix? I'm currently having to use windows on the computer that I'm working on because there is no other computer to chat from
[18:48] <Graphical> ubuntu software center
[18:49] <theadmin> Graphical: That's just the GUI frontend.
[18:49] <bekks> theadmin: dpkg is the package management system, apt-get is just a frontend.
[18:49] <rhombus> theadmin: ok, that is the command line package manager, same as in Debian. Is there a GUI package manager?
[18:49] <Graphical> or apt
[18:49] <bekks> rhombus: synaptic is a GUI frontend.
[18:49] <theadmin> rhombus: Synaptic, Muon, Ubuntu Software Center... Over 9000 of them >.<
[18:49] <rhombus> theadmin: So you can see why I am asking this question, now :)
[18:50] <L3gEnD> Ciao a tutti :D
[18:50] <hapster> what's the final say on Ubuntu's 12.10 kernel version?
[18:50] <ray76> Flame if that dont work i guess your network card is not installed,,  divice divers are a little out of my range...  does it look like there is a wifi network ?
[18:50] <ddilinger> i'm running do-release-upgrade from a box running maverick, its updating to oneiric.  I get quite a few 'Err http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/restricted Translation-en
[18:50] <rhombus> which is the one that is best supported? keep in mind, this is a for a family member who is computer impaired.
[18:50] <rhombus> and does it make any difference that this is a kubuntu system?
[18:50] <exaem> rhombus: Ubuntu Software Center
[18:50] <sternfan2012> flame says that he can see the networks (I assume wireless) - but can't browse anything
[18:51] <rhombus> exaem: lemme see if I can find that in KDE.
[18:51] <theadmin> rhombus: The KDE edition of Ubuntu uses Muon
[18:51] <gordonjcp> rhombus: if it's for someone "computer impaired" as you put it, just stick with stock Ubuntu
[18:51] <ddilinger> after do-release-upgrade complains about some missing stuff (presumably from apt-get update) it still tries to continue, has ~2000 packages to update.  The problem is it fails to download various packages and then quits
[18:51] <L3gEnD> salve
[18:52] <ThinkT510> ddilinger: you can't upgrade from mavarick to oneiric directly
[18:52] <j4rg0n> That worked
[18:52] <rhombus> gordonjcp: I'd prefer not to inflict gnome on this person.
[18:52] <rhombus> theadmin: yeah, I noticed that there is no Ubuntu Software Center.
[18:53] <gordonjcp> rhombus: stick with stock Ubuntu, and Unity
[18:53] <gordonjcp> rhombus: it's much simpler for everyone concerned
[18:53] <ddilinger> ThinkT510: oops, i mean to say i upgraded from maverick to natty, that one was success.  i'm now doing the second do-release-upgrade from the freshly booted natty install
[18:53] <sternfan2012> gordon - I setup a netbook for a "non computer" person and used XFCE (xubuntu) - worked pretty well
[18:54] <ThinkT510> ddilinger: why don't you just fresh install 12.04 instead of jumping through several upgrade hoops?
[18:54] <emph> Problem: Using Ubuntu, I try to watch a movie both with the default player and the VLC one and, at least if I jump to different parts of the film, the video itself freezes or slows down temporarily (the system is fine, the player is fine, the video itself is the one that freezes, although the sound of it is continuous and doesn't get cut)
[18:54] <jcheung> anyone know how i can go about changing chat servers with xchat-gnome irc?
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, natty is end of life the repos are not set to run a update stock.
[18:54] <rhombus> theadmin: ok, so next question -- when I try to install Firefox with Muon, it complains that it can't authenticate a bunch of dependency packages it needs to install. I thought this was all being pulled from a ubuntu repository.
[18:54] <gordonjcp> emph: sounds like you may be using non-accelerated graphics
[18:54] <anlarye> ddilinger: i would agree to do the fresh install if you are way back on maverick instead of attempting to go thorugh several upgrades
[18:55] <gordonjcp> emph: or your disk is very slow for some reason
[18:55] <ddilinger> thinkt510: because it has various development stuff on it all configured,  when i've used do-release-upgrade before there were no hoops, just hitting yes a number of times
[18:55] <WARACE> hi
[18:55] <theadmin> rhombus: "authenticate"? Hm, I never had such problems, then again all I use is apt-get
[18:55] <rhombus> gordonjcp: so far, you have just said things, but not really supported them. What is wrong with Kubuntu?
[18:55] <emph> gordonjcp: what do you mean by non-accelerated graphics? If it's of any use, I was able to reproduce any sort of movie using the windows player in windows
[18:55] <rhombus> theadmin: muon actually uses that term.
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> ddilinger  if you're skilled enough to be a developer, you should have had a separate /home partition
[18:56] <exaem> d
[18:56] <WARACE> anyone available I need a little bit of direction I am looking to deploy a server with Apache and a mail server
[18:56] <sternfan2012> emph - are you saying the PC you are using used to have windows and ran movies fine?  But you put ubuntu on it and now its slow?
[18:56] <gordonjcp> emph: well, depending on your graphics hardware, you may need a proprietary binary-blob driver
[18:56] <ddilinger> MonkeyDust: the problem isnt backups, or even home dir thats easy.  i just didn't want to reconfigure a bunch of stuff :P
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> WARACE  maybe #ubuntu-server suits you better
[18:56] <subz3r0> jcheung, you should not use xchat-gnome version. this version is more likely castrated... use the plain xchat version
[18:56] <emph> sternfan2012: Exactly
[18:56] <gordonjcp> rhombus: are you having problems installing just now?  Well then...
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, your in natty right?
[18:57] <emph> gordonjcp: Where can I get that?
[18:57] <ddilinger> wilee-nilee: yes, the upgrade to natty worked great
[18:57] <sternfan2012> warace - what kind of email server?
[18:57] <ddilinger> wilee-nilee: if i have to, i will just install the latest directly via a usb stick, just would rather not
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, natty is end of life you need to to a end of life upgrade from it.
[18:57] <WARACE> Not sure what email server yet
[18:58] <WARACE> I am looking for suggestions
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> !eol
[18:58] <emph> gordonjcp: It's an ATI Radeon HD
[18:58] <sternfan2012> is it a purchase?  open source? free?
[18:58] <ddilinger> wilee-nilee: excellent, thanks
[18:58] <pcov> cuold anyone help me to uninstall nubuntu 12.04 from a dual boot windows 7 machine
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, I hope you are backed up as well. ;)
[18:58] <gordonjcp> WARACE: postfix and dovecot seem to be the weapon of choice
[18:58] <WARACE> looking for open source but dont mind spending money for ease of use and security
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> pcov, you just want windows?
[18:58] <sternfan2012> warace - look into Zimbra
[18:59] <hfic> ok so i apt-get purge samba .. and apt-get install samba. apt says it installed and started the service, but ps -ef | grep smb shows nothing running. and /etc/samba doesn't get created?
[18:59] <pcov> yes thanks , i have backed up my machine
[18:59] <sternfan2012> I ran a Zimbra server for years - very sweet
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> pcov, you sau dual bopot, but I have to ask was Ubuntu installed from windows or a booted cd or usb
[18:59] <WARACE> Hmmm Zimbra seems good from everything I have seen on it
[18:59] <subz3r0> pcov, how often you want to ask this question? just "ERASE" the damn thing
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> say*
[18:59] <sternfan2012> postfix is a horror to config - wanted to pull my eyes out
[19:00] <Boreeas> Is there a way to retrieve a file removed via rm?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> pcov, sorry bopot is dualboot
[19:00] <emph> gordonjcp: Could you give me more information on such driver, please?
[19:00] <pcov> i just want windows7 back, and any partitions that wubi has put in please
[19:00] <Apwbdjp> hfic, samba is not a deamon, check for smbd
[19:00] <gordonjcp> !ati | emph
[19:00] <sternfan2012> warace - or Citadel - an all-in-one server
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> pcov, wubi does not make partitions go to the windows admin acct and user add remove.
[19:00] <xangua> pcov: if you used wubi just remove it from the add/quit windows app
[19:01] <emph> ubottu: Thanks, ubottu
[19:01] <sternfan2012> as for Apache - that's pretty basic - I use webmin just for the speed of getting it up and running
[19:01] <hfic> Apwbdjp, it would still grab anything listed with 'smb'. ..but still no nothing running. I just had it installed and I've been messing with a problem for several days. So I figured I would just start fresh
[19:02] <larsvdv> can someone help me with my driver for the hd radeon hd 5400?
[19:02] <larsvdv> please
[19:02] <pcov> thanks willee-nilee, i was told to uninstall ubuntu from the wubi installer.
[19:02] <Apwbdjp> hfic, so sudo stop/start smbd gives nothing?
[19:02] <larsvdv> i cant watch anything on my laptop
[19:02] <rhombus> gordonjcp: um...No, I am not having problems installing. I have a question that you seem unable to answer.
[19:02] <subz3r0> Boreeas, check ext3rminator or photorec
[19:02] <subz3r0> if its ext3/4
[19:02] <sternfan2012> if you run an email server with any amount of users - use Raid-10
[19:03] <larsvdv> can someone help me with my driver for the hd radeon hd 5400?
[19:03] <epinky> !radeon
[19:03] <hfic> Apwbdjp, sudo service smbd start says it restarted .. but it doesnt
[19:03] <larsvdv> tnx
[19:04] <WARACE> hmmm
[19:04] <gordonjcp> rhombus: ask your question
[19:04] <subz3r0> hfic, "sudo service smbd reload"
[19:04] <subz3r0> or restart
[19:04] <rhombus> gordonjcp: why does muon report that it is unable to authenticate package dependencies when I install firefox?
[19:04] <hfic> subz3r0, entbox@boc1:/$ sudo service smbd reload
[19:04] <hfic> reload: Unknown instance:
[19:05] <gordonjcp> rhombus: well, without seeing the error message *verbatim* I can't really answer
[19:05] <subz3r0> hfic, so its not running in the background. check the samba logs why its not starting
[19:05] <gordonjcp> rhombus: it may not have the correct set of public keys for the repositories that are set up
[19:05] <subz3r0> im sure something with your config is just wrong
[19:06] <larsvdv> ! radeon
[19:07] <sliddjur> Hello does linux mint and ubuntu basicly have the same commands ?
[19:07] <sliddjur> in the terminal
[19:07] <dtcrshr> basically yes
[19:07] <subz3r0> yes
[19:07] <subz3r0> like all linux distros
[19:07] <hfic> subz3r0, ok I get spammed with 'error opening config file'.. I'm assuming its looking for smb.conf in /etc/samba .. but that never gets created. Which I believe is my underline issue.
[19:07] <rhombus> gordonjcp: Warning: Unverified Software / The following pieces of software cannot be authenticated. WARNING: Installing unverified software represents a security risk, as the presence of unverifiable software can be a sign of tampering. Do you wish to continue?
[19:08] <gordonjcp> rhombus: can you tie that into a particular repository?
[19:08] <gordonjcp> sliddjur: all Linuxes are pretty much the same
[19:08] <sliddjur> well im taking a linux class at the uni. he said he's going to use ubuntu, but you might aswell use another dist. ive tried both before, and liked the UI of mint more. even though we will mostly use the terminal as a tool in our course
[19:09] <WARACE> anyone know where I can take linux server classes online?
[19:09] <rhombus> gordonjcp: I can take a look, I am new to muon -- ubuntu in general
[19:09] <subz3r0> hfic, if this is a fresh installation. purge the samba server... "sudo apt-get purge ......." after that deltete the configs by hand and reinstall everything. sounds like someting went wrong while the installation. why? i dont know. just use the version which ubuntu will install when u do "sudo apt-get install..."
[19:09] <sliddjur> WARACE: where you from?
[19:09] <WARACE> I am in New York
[19:09] <WARACE> USA
[19:10] <Linux> every time I run sudo apt-get upgrade I get a error message about failing to fetch cdrom Lubuntu 12.04
[19:10] <gordonjcp> rhombus: kubuntu is a respin of Ubuntu, and it has some weirdnesses
[19:10] <gordonjcp> !kubuntu | rhombus
[19:10] <hfic> subz3r0, thats what i did apt-get purge and than reinstalled with apt-get install samba. This is where my problem is because it didn't create the /etc/samba
[19:10] <sliddjur> WARACE: im on a linux server class in sweden. online. its for free for europeans ;)
[19:10] <W4RH4WK> hello, does anyone have some information about ubuntu tablets (which might be coming 2013 or 2014) i'm looking for information about the freedom canonical will provide. Anybody knows if these tablets will be locked up like an ipad.
[19:10] <exaem> W4RH4WK: Simple answer, get Android.
[19:10] <oal> Any suggested apps that start webcam recording when movement is detected? We have pretty clear signs that we'll have a burglary attempt tonight or tomorrow night, and I'd like to set up a camera to watch
[19:11] <WARACE> I wish i was in sweden right about now
[19:11] <exaem> W4RH4WK: Nobody knows about Ubuntu tablets yet.
[19:11] <theadmin> Linux: Remove it from software sources then (either edit /etc/apt/sources-list or use either software-properties-gtk or software-properties-kde)
[19:11] <W4RH4WK> exaem: i don't want aondroid on a tablet
[19:11] <exaem> W4RH4WK: Ubuntu won't be on tablets for a couple of years, you don't have a chocie really :P
[19:11] <sternfan2012> <<< never heard of ubuntu tablets
[19:11] <subz3r0> hfic, if its just /etc/samba you can make the it by urself. just check somewhere for the configs
[19:11] <Psi-Jack> exaem: Simple answer? More like, slap in the face retort!
[19:11] <dr_willis> theres allready a kubuntu tablet out W4RH4WK . in europe i hear. but its not related to canocal
[19:11] <exaem> Psi-Jack: Not at all!
[19:12] <subz3r0> dr_willis, there is no ubuntu tablet out there in the EU
[19:12] <Psi-Jack> exaem: I'm all okay with Android and all, but if I had a choice to run fully functional Ubuntu on a tablet like my 10" Toshiba Thrive, I'd be much more FOR that.
[19:12] <dr_willis> subz3r0:  seen articals about one with KUBUNTU came out last month from what i read
[19:13] <subz3r0> dr_willis, i dont see any. im from germany, so i guess it would arrive here very soon
[19:13] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: look at Archos tablets
[19:13] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Android-based. And?
[19:13] <ThinkT510> !ot
[19:13] <Psi-Jack> heh
[19:13] <dr_willis> !arm
[19:13] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: they are somewhat locked down by default, but on the Archos website there is the page for the "Special Developer Firmware"
[19:13] <W4RH4WK> i'm with Psi-Jack, Android is cool yes, but i'd rather have a fully functional "GNU/Linux Distro" on a tablet than this frankenstein linux (sry)
[19:13] <rhombus> gordonjcp: ok, I have the settings open... have you used muon?
[19:13] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: you can unlock 'em by installing SDF
[19:14] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: this will void your warranty, and indeed it says on the website "This is for people who know what they are doing. You probably don't want this."
[19:14] <gordonjcp> rhombus: no, I avoid KDE wherever possible
[19:14] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Yet, as dr_willis pointed out, still ARM-based, not CISC
[19:14] <subz3r0> hfic, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/appa.html
[19:14] <rhombus> gordonjcp: to each, his own. I avoid gnome wherever possible.
[19:14] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: you're not going to get an x86-based tablet any time soon
[19:14] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: there's nowhere to put the car battery
[19:14] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: They started out being x86.
[19:14] <hfic> subz3r0, yeah I forgot I had backed up the entire dir the other night. I'm restoring from that atm.
[19:14] <W4RH4WK> at IFA i talked to some Archos guys which told me that, archos tablets can be easily "unlocked" (they are not even locked but i call it unlocked here) and you can run nativ linux distributions on it without much pain, but i'd rather have some kind of supported piece of hardware
[19:14] <Linux> is there a lubuntu channel
[19:14] <gordonjcp> rhombus: I find KDE to be far too complicated
[19:15] <gordonjcp> !lubuntu | Linux
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Linux: #lubuntu
[19:15] <gordonjcp> Linux: ask and ye shall receive
[19:15] <subz3r0> gordonjcp, rhombus, maybe you could have this talk inside of the OT-chan?
[19:15] <gordonjcp> subz3r0: that's a good idea
[19:15] <rhombus> gordonjcp: so, what about the repository configuration might be causing issues with authentication? I have a Kubuntu tab, an other tab, an updates tab, and an authentication tab...
[19:15] <dr_willis> Linux:  if its asking for the cd.. remove the cd entry in your ;sources' listing, via your package manager
[19:15] <sternfan2012> I spent some time with Lubuntu - could never figure out a way to put the COMPUTER icon on the desktop - moved to xubuntu
[19:15] <subz3r0> we dont care what you prefer. if its kubuntu go to #kubuntu and dont mess around in here
[19:16] <gordonjcp> rhombus: you might do better asking in #kubuntu
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> sternfan2012: why do you need it?
[19:16] <Linux> i did i removed it using synapic
[19:16] <eshlox> hi, who uses ubuntu and uwsgi? i still get the meessage: group www-data not found (exists in the file groups), if i try add uwsgi user and group.. still the same, suggestions? ;-> uwsgi config: http://wklej.org/id/823695/ log: http://wklej.org/id/823699/ when i set i set uid = uwsgi and gui = uwsgi, http://wklej.org/id/823711/ ;-S
[19:16] <dr_willis> changeing desktops because of a single icon....  ;)
[19:16] <sternfan2012> for a non-technical user
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: yeah..weird
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> the default email client isn't evolution...i'm switchingto arch
[19:17] <Linux>  my cd drive isnt working
[19:17] <seraph13> i installed the newest ubuntu and i put wine winetricks and play on linux and when i went to install e sword it installed but it wont open for me to even use it or read any of the bibles
[19:17] <gordonjcp> Linux: no great loss
[19:17]  * dr_willis what 'computer'  icon would open on pcmanfm
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you expand on 'not working' please
[19:17] <gordonjcp> Linux: we have these things called "USB drives" now
[19:17] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Example: Tablet: CISC-based, originally stock with Windows: http://www.amazon.com/Compaq-TC1100-Tablet-Pentium-Centrino/dp/B0000ZPOUG
[19:17] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: That's from YEARS ago. :)
[19:17] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: yes, I've used them
[19:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: battery life measured in minutes
[19:18] <subz3r0> the default explorter for the web isnt the INTERNETEXPLORER. switchting to windOZE...
[19:18] <subz3r0> bleh?
[19:18] <subz3r0> :>
[19:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: with a highly-tuned install of Linux on one I was able to squeeze nearly an hour out of a fully-charged battery
[19:18] <dr_willis> default exploiter. ;)
[19:18] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Actually, I usually got 2 hours out of it.
[19:18] <subz3r0> :p
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> XPloitation
[19:18] <Linux> when i put blank cds in it  it won't notice them when i put burned cds in there it works
[19:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: they were *stunning* but the CPU and battery technology just weren't there
[19:19] <sternfan2012> the netbook I just setup has a battery life of about 6 hours with xubuntu
[19:19] <subz3r0> because there is no filesystem on the cd?
[19:19] <theadmin> Linux: Uh, you use a disk burner with blank CDs...
[19:19] <theadmin> Linux: Brasero, K3b, such things
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Linux: what burning apps have you tried?
[19:19] <Psi-Jack> sternfan2012: Exactly. ;)
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> xfburn too :)
[19:19] <ThinkT510> seraph13: you could try bibletime
[19:19] <ThinkT510> !bibletime | seraph13
[19:19] <subz3r0> no korantime out there?
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !info bibletime | seraph13
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !info bibletime
[19:20] <hfic> subz3r0, just to let you know I was able to restore and get smb running around. However my problem still persists... o well :/ keep looking into it I guess
[19:20] <sternfan2012> PSI - yeah - I redid a netbook for a friend that had Linpus on it...
[19:20] <Linux> I tried brasero and it said it didnt notice a cd when a cd was in there
[19:20] <sternfan2012> never heard of Linpus until I did the format
[19:20] <subz3r0> hfic, no config files = samba wont run. if the files do not exist, create them
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Linux: is it a SATA optical drive?
 when i put blank cds in it  it won't notice them when i put burned cds in there it works --> what should ubuntu mount, if there is nothing to mount? its a blank/empty cd
[19:21] <hfic> subz3r0, that part is resolved. I should have rephrased it .. my long time issue, the one that made me try and start fresh ... that problem still continues.
[19:21] <subz3r0> in other words, there is no filesystem
[19:22] <Linux> it a ide cd drive
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Linux: does the system have a make and model?
[19:23] <Linux> Its a ibm think cente refurished by compusa
[19:23] <subz3r0> hfic, no idea, i just came around and see you had problems while trying to start samba
[19:24] <subz3r0> see/saw
[19:24] <Linux> it notced blank cds in window xp
[19:24] <emph> gordonjcp: So I tried to download the ATI driver I needed through the "Additional drivers" Ubuntu application, but it says there's an error and I can 't read the error log because I don't know how to get to the destination: /var/log/jockey.log
[19:24] <paolina> ciao qualcuno mi può aiutare????
[19:25] <ThinkT510> paolina: /join #ubuntu-it
[19:25] <subz3r0> emph, inside of the terminal you want to type: sudo pico /var/log/jockey.log (to exit the writer hit ctrl+x)
[19:26] <theadmin> subz3r0: pico? lols! It's been called "nano" for years now
[19:26] <emph> subz3r0: Ok, thanks, what does pico do anyway?
[19:26] <theadmin> subz3r0: Though, /usr/bin/pico is a symlink to /usr/bin/nano but still
[19:26] <ThinkT510> emph: text editor
[19:26] <subz3r0> theadmin, show me one who cares. i dont
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> subz3r0  theadmin try sudo -e to edit
[19:27] <theadmin> subz3r0: Actually, some may. Reason is /usr may not be mounted. nano actually resides in /bin so that won't be a problem, but there's no /bin/pico.
[19:27] <Linux> i have a hl-dt-st-rw/dvd gcc-4482b dvd drive
[19:28] <tiredbones> current system is 9.10 and I am trying to upgrade to 10.04 on my to 12.04. the error i get while trying to install is "BusyBox v1.13.3 can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs). I did the help thing, but have no idea what command to enter.
[19:28] <ThinkT510> !eol | tiredbones
[19:28] <subz3r0> theadmin, it realy doesnt matter if he uses "pico" or "nano". i use pico for ages, so why should i dont give him this advice, even if its STILL working?
[19:29] <theadmin> subz3r0: Never mind. Just giving you a situation where it won't work :P
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> subz3r0  sudo -e opens the default editor
[19:29] <sternfan2012> Linux - what's the problem?
[19:29] <Myke974_> ubuntu server 12.04 Lts : I have 4go ram with 512 for a ramdisk. what are best valords for kernel.shmall & kernel.shmmax ? I'm going to use Zoneminder
[19:30] <Linux> my dvd drive wont noce blank cds so i can't burn cds
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Myke974_  there's also the channel #ubuntu-server
[19:30] <subz3r0> MonkeyDust, thx for sharing, but why tellin us that? theadmin just made clear, that pico does not exit anymore. its just a symlink to nano
[19:30] <Linux> my dvd drive wont notice blank cds so i can't burn cds
[19:31] <sternfan2012> are you 100% sure its a burner?  And not a cd-burner/dvd reader?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Linux: if you run:  sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive; lsb_release -a      can you please pastebin the output
[19:31] <exaem> Linux: burn it to a thumb drive then
[19:31] <theadmin> subz3r0: Because some people actually use an editor (vim, emacs) rather than nano, so yeah, sudo -e (or "sudoedit") works better in such situations.
[19:32] <sternfan2012> Linux - I just googled your drive - its a CD burner & DVD reader (no a dvd burner)
[19:32] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know how to fix the problem where ANY full screen video (VLC, Flash, etc), is playing on Dual-Monitor Nvidia's TwinView, and you'll only see HALF of it on the primary video display?
[19:33] <Psi-Jack> it's tearing, in the middle, as if it's trying to play the movie in the middle of BOTH displays.
[19:33] <sternfan2012> damn - I thought you meant it couldn't see blank DVDs...  oops
[19:34] <rhombus> Ok -- switching repository servers from the one for Canada to the main one, then doing a catalog update, resolved the problem. Muon is not complaining anymore.
[19:34] <subz3r0> theadmin, its more likely offtopic. but sorry, that doesnt matter. pico or nano are working well in just this case. if the user want to learn more he could just write "man pico" and will see its nano as text editor. so in my point of view it doesnt count. Just fixing the issue counts. i just like it to keep it small and simple
[19:34] <theadmin> subz3r0: Yeah, I understand, never mind
[19:35] <Linux> i burned lubuntu onto a cd with this drive in windows xp
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> Linux  cd is not dvd
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Linux: are there any bugs reported?
[19:36] <Linux> not yet
[19:37] <puppy_parade> how to I customize my Unity search when I pull up the hud?
[19:37] <Linux> its odd because it xp i could burn ccds and in ubuntu i cant
[19:37] <kantlivelong> ccds?
[19:37] <Linux> #cds
[19:37] <Linux> its odd because it xp i could burn cds and in ubuntu i cant
[19:37] <kantlivelong> y cant u? doesnt pick up the cdrw?
[19:38] <alexlax10> salve
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> !y| kantlivelong
[19:38] <alexlax10> !list
[19:39]  * Psi-Jack glares to alexlax10
[19:39] <Linux> my computer knows theres a cd-rom it shows it in disk utitly
[19:39] <sternfan2012> Linux - can you see it in device manager/sys info etc.?
[19:39] <sternfan2012> ok
[19:39] <sternfan2012> that's a new one - thought I saw everything
[19:40] <Linux> whats the command for linux  device manager
[19:40] <bekks> There is no linux device manager.
[19:40] <Psi-Jack> Linux: Linux IS the device manager itself. :p
[19:41] <kantlivelong> Linux: does `dmesg | grep CD` return anything?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you pastebin of the command I gave please
[19:41] <missingfaktor> hi could someone please help out with my wine problem?
[19:41] <missingfaktor> http://askubuntu.com/questions/183721/wine-virtual-memory-exhausted
[19:41] <Linux> i did
[19:41] <kantlivelong> missingfaktor: #wine
[19:42] <kantlivelong> missingfaktor: correction #winehq
[19:42] <sternfan2012> go to software center - type in Device Manager - its there - looking at it now
[19:42] <missingfaktor> thanks
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you copy the address bar and paste it here please
[19:43] <Guest77691> can any one help me installing a canon lbp1120 on ubuntu?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest77691: did you check te canon europe website?
[19:43] <Linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184236/
[19:43] <Jagst3r15> does anyone know if the new dell ubuntu laptop to be released this fall will be available for sale on the dell site or will it only be limited
[19:44] <kantlivelong> Linux: well it sees that its writable...does it work with sudo?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Linux: so you are having trouble burning DVD?
[19:45] <Linux> i havent tred sudo yet
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Linux: so you are having trouble burning DVD?
[19:45] <kantlivelong> Linux: or make sure your part of cdrom group
[19:45] <Linux> i having troble burn cd
[19:45] <kantlivelong> Linux: what are you buring with also?
[19:45] <Guest77691> actionParsnip, yes but i cant get it to work :(
[19:45] <Linux> I the admin of my computer
[19:46] <Linux> brasero k3b
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Linux: ok, put a blank CD in the drive and rerun the command. look at the 'status' bit for the opticl drive
[19:46] <mega1> i am running server 10.04 and it has just asked me to up grade to precise should i or would this couse problems
[19:46] <subz3r0> !factoids
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you also run:  lsb_release -sc      what is output?
[19:46] <puppy_parade> how to I customize the default Unity global search?
[19:48] <sternfan2012> puppy - have you tried MyUnity?
[19:48] <sternfan2012> a system tweaker?
[19:48] <puppy_parade> that lets me customize superficial things
[19:48] <ReXiO> anyone knows a command for listing existing user groups?
[19:48] <puppy_parade> not see what it searches
[19:48] <Linux> first command http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184268/
[19:49] <W4sp> Guest77691: Download the 1120 driver, run CUPS (localhost:631) to configure the printer queue and printer, install the PPD files or run dpkg.
[19:49] <Linux> the second said presice
[19:50] <ThinkT510> ReXiO: id will list the groups your current user belongs to
[19:51] <adib> hello
[19:51] <adib> any chance anyone knows if it is possible to run 3ds max 2013 in ubuntu 12.04?
[19:52] <puppy_parade> cmon, there's got to be a way to see how the main search works
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ReXiO: cat /etc/group   read the leftmost colomn for the names
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> puppy_parade  http://ubuntuguide.net/three-tools-configuring-ubuntu-11-04-unity-interface
[19:52] <ReXiO> ThinkT510: Oh OK Thanks
[19:52] <ReXiO> ActionParsnip: many thanks
[19:52] <tiredbones> ThinkT510 thanks for the pointers
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ReXiO: tried to get some fancy bash-fu to show only the names, but couldn't find it
[19:53] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: i can't remember what i said but your welcome :)
[19:53] <puppy_parade> MonkeyDust, there is no built in or at least a tool in the repository to tweak the main search?
[19:53] <alecst> sup guys. anyone know off the top of their head why my vimrc is read-only? not sure if this is the place for this question, if it's not i'll leave
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> puppy_parade  i don't like/use unity, only knew that link
[19:54] <puppy_parade> and none of those seem to touch the search
[19:54] <Linux> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184268/
[19:54] <ReXiO> ActionParsnip: haha many thanks I now know Im not on the vboxusers group and it does exist =)
[19:54]  * puppy_parade sighs.
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> puppy_parade  submit it as an idea in !brainstorm
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> ReXiO: could make it then
[19:54] <puppy_parade> I can't even find out how it works
[19:55] <tiredbones> ThinkT510  EOL  9.10 to 12.04
[19:55] <puppy_parade> there has to be more to it than this
[19:55] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: ah
[19:55] <puppy_parade> is there a specific term for the unity search that is run when I press the windows key and start typing?
[19:56] <adib> i suppose no one knwos then?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> puppy_parade: thats called the dash
[19:56] <ThinkT510> puppy_parade: hud
[19:57] <puppy_parade> ThinkT510, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/HUD that is what happens when I press alt in an application
[19:57] <silverarrow> does anyone know how to make battery icon show charge?
[19:57] <ThinkT510> puppy_parade: ah, sorry, thanks
[19:58] <Benxyzzy> Ubuntu 12.04: where is my samba share mounted in the filesystem?
[19:59] <Benxyzzy> It just says 'smb:/' in Nautilus but I know there must be a mountpoint
[19:59] <spiouki> hey I tried to update my avast and when it finished i got an error and now i cant even open it. i got the same prob in virtualbox.  this is the log 12:56:47 PM: Deleted stale lock file '/home/saman/.avast/lockfile-saman'.
[19:59] <spiouki> 12:56:52 PM: An error occured in avast! engine: Invalid argument
[19:59] <adib> why does it feel everyone ignores me...
[20:00] <W4sp> Benxyzzy: Does mount not work?
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> adib  repeat your question from time to time, but not too often
[20:00] <ThinkT510> adib: whats the issue?
[20:00] <puppy_parade> adib, http://usa.autodesk.com/3ds-max/system-requirements/ you would probably have to run it in wine
[20:01] <puppy_parade> might want to go check their site
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> ah wine
[20:01] <Benxyzzy> w4sp: I don't suppose it's .gvfs, is it?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Benxyzzy: run:  mount   to see what is mounted where
[20:01] <adib> i thought about wine, but i heard that doesnt run even decent
[20:01] <Benxyzzy> ActionParsnip: I did, and ~/.gvfs looked the most likely
[20:01]  * average_drifter is looking for a telecommute job involving javascript and/or Perl and/or C/C++
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> average_drifter  wrong channel, this is support
[20:02] <gordonjcp> adib: have you got 3DS Max?
[20:02] <adib> yes
[20:02] <gordonjcp> adib: it wouldn't take you long to fire up wine and try it
[20:02] <gordonjcp> adib: if you do, please check the winedb web page, and report your results
[20:02] <adib> yeah, but i gotta first fix my ubuntu
[20:02] <adib> k i will thanks gordonjcp
[20:02] <puppy_parade> adib, A quick google has using blender as the most common response. It probably doesn't run well.
[20:03] <adib> im a multimedia design student so i cant really switch to blender
[20:03] <puppy_parade> you can try and run it in a VM
[20:03] <gordonjcp> adib: why not?
[20:03] <puppy_parade> if wine doesn't pan out.
[20:03] <adib> because i get taught 3ds max
[20:03] <gordonjcp> adib: ah, okay
[20:03] <ThinkT510> adib: in other words you don't want to
[20:04] <gordonjcp> well if you need it for your course
[20:04] <gordonjcp> it's worth looking at Blender anyway
[20:04] <Ascavasaion> I am running Lubuntu, how do I change to Ubuntu?
[20:04] <spiouki> sorry go connection prob
[20:04] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: did u upgrade?
[20:04] <puppy_parade> adib, if it's  2013 you are looking at, it's probably too new to run on wine as well.
[20:04] <adib> ThinkT510: no offense, but i cant just switch as the only one in the class with the teacher knowing like nothign about blender
[20:04] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:04] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: Im about to start ppc upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[20:05] <adib> puppy_parade: i dont really mind, tough we are probably all switching to 2013 so i might be able to get away with 2012
[20:05] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: then logout and select ubuntu on login screen
[20:05] <spiouki> I updated my avast and it fail i got this error now i cant even open the application ubuntu 12.04
[20:05] <spiouki> 12:56:47 PM: Deleted stale lock file '/home/saman/.avast/lockfile-saman'.
[20:05] <spiouki> 12:56:52 PM: An error occured in avast! engine: Invalid argument
[20:05] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Thank you... will do.
[20:05] <average_drifter> MonkeyDust: well yeah.. I know
[20:05] <puppy_parade> adib, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=343
[20:05] <spiouki> I need help
[20:05] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez I'm reading the document now
[20:06] <puppy_parade> 2010 and 2011 are rated garbage, 2012 and 2013 are not on there adib. Might try running it in virtualbox
[20:06] <adib> virtualbox? like a vm?
[20:06] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: My system's Update Manager shows me to upgrade to 12.04...
[20:06] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: will it follow the upgrade path if I chose it ?
[20:06] <puppy_parade> adib yes
[20:07] <spiouki> an error occured in avasst! engine: Invalid argument. what does it mean
[20:07] <adib> k thanks
[20:07] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez: that is where i'm headed.
[20:07] <spiouki> what should i do with avast. I faced the same prob in virtualbox
[20:07] <spiouki> need a guide with that
[20:07] <jstrong> I can't get grub to detect a second ubuntu installation on my second hard drive.
[20:08] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: Can u lead me into upgrading my system from 10.10 to 12.04 ?
[20:08] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez:  I think I would not make the jump, but do each release one at a time.
[20:08] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: nice.
[20:09] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: will start the process...
[20:09] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez:  good luck.
[20:09] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: My wifi is working now thanks to you and bobweaver:
[20:09] <mralexandro> what was the off topic channe for ubuntu
[20:10] <ThinkT510> mralexandro: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:10] <subz3r0> !ot | mralexandro
[20:10] <mralexandro> <3
[20:11] <bflorat> Hi, I'm the Jajuk project admin that is already in the Ubuntu Software Center. I don't own this app (so I can't submit changes) but I need to upgrade the icon because it has a very low resolution. Does somebody know how to proceed ?
[20:11] <skino> Evening
[20:14] <Linux> I found my problem im trying to burn a dvd with cd burning drive
[20:14] <ThinkT510> Linux: they asked you many times if it was a dvd
[20:14] <adac> guys, external monitors are not recoginzed. When I use xrandr i get: "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default" can someone please help me?
[20:15] <Linux> I remember now that burned the cd with another computer than this one
[20:15] <puppy_parade> figured it out, you can edit the dash with dconf-editor
[20:17] <tiredbones> I'm reading the document on EOL releases. I'm not sure whether to try to bring my current release, 9.10, or just start the process. I don't know whether to trust the updates.
[20:17] <skino> can anyone help me with a good app to install certain games. i read online that Assassins creed and DIablo can be installed but im having issues with Playonlinuzx
[20:17] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: i've always fresh installed, far less can go wrong
[20:18] <silverarrow> does anyone have a working battery indicator on the taskbar?
[20:18] <Linux>  i burned a lot of linux distros to help other ppl with virus crashed windows
[20:18] <subz3r0> silverarrow, yes
[20:19] <avengre> hello, i'm trying to install apache2...  I wanted to do a fresh install from scratch, so i did:  apt-get --purge apache2 and then tried apt-get remove apache2 to ensure it was gone (it was) i deleted the /etc/apache2 folder to wipe all trace... when I do apt-get install apache2 or apt-get install apache2 --reinstall it doesn't recreate the folder...
[20:19] <avengre> despite saying its installed
[20:19] <tiredbones> ThinkT510, Well, I tried a fresh install for 12.04 and got many errors. I can't even get to a live CD.
[20:20] <sternfan2012> Linux - I had a feeling it was something like that...
[20:20] <subz3r0> !md5 | tiredbones
[20:20] <silverarrow> subz3r0, would it be the same for lubuntu as for ubuntu?
[20:20] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: odd, does it boot?
[20:20] <teddyp1cker> hi all
[20:21] <subz3r0> silverarrow, i dont know. im using unity or gnome shell. both show me the battery indicator
[20:21] <silverarrow> subz3r0, I have just bought a new battery for an old laptop, it works fine, just not the indicator
[20:21] <tiredbones> ThinkT510, NO -  I'll try try md5 thing
[20:22] <teddyp1cker> Does nouveau driver compatible with nvidia geforce gt240?
[20:22] <silverarrow> subz3r0, it is desktop environment which handles battery icon? I have lxde
[20:22] <zorgborg> silverarrow: using lubuntu 12.04 and batter indicator works fine
[20:23] <kieppie1> hi guys
[20:23] <silverarrow> zorgborg, I have lubuntu 12.04, must be a lxde thing ?
[20:23] <internetN00b> is it possible to set Ubuntu server to notify me when a user log in using ssh?
[20:23] <silverarrow> zorgborg,  and subz3r0 thanks anyway
[20:23] <kieppie1> how can I do a high quality convert of VOB files to other media - avi, mpeg, etc?
[20:25] <Newtoubuntu> fixed mount issue earlier. some how windows saved my session after shutdown, therefore it was in use.
[20:25] <zorgborg> anyone know if it's feasible (not too difficult) to remove librebase + calc without removing the whole package (this is more for general principle rather than desire to actually do it)?
[20:26] <Newtoubuntu> i have been adding new unity lenses now. This is a fantastic tool.
[20:27] <hilikus> is there any way to see my stored wifi password? i don't see any entries in the keyring
[20:28] <internetN00b> can some one recommend me an app to store passwords?
[20:28] <_LCN_> is there a way i can manually change the resolution of the login page... can't see it throught my receiver nor on the tv unless they are defined to the standard resolution settings like 420p 720p 1080p
[20:29] <wan26> hilikus, you can go to edit connections and pick wifi then click show password
[20:29] <wan26> internetN00b, I'm going to try lastpass for that
[20:29] <internetN00b> wan26, isn't that a webservice?
[20:30] <Newtoubuntu> hilikus, figaros password manager 2... right in the software center
[20:31] <Newtoubuntu> whoops i meant internetnoob
[20:32] <wan26> yeah, i thought of maybe using it just to store passwords though, say if i move machines or need it at work
[20:33] <tiredbones> subz3r0, my download release 10.04 has a good md5 code.
[20:35] <bnwkeys> Hi Guys, new dilemma, hoping someone can point me in the right direction.  I had first partitioned my HDD and installed ubuntu, leaving a part for XP.  Then I installed XP, but it had to inactivate  my logical partitions to do the install.  Now it won't let me reactivate the logical partitions cuz they aren't primary.  Anybody have a way to reestablish dualboot so i can recover my ubuntu OS?
[20:36] <subz3r0> bnwkeys, i dont know who gave you the advice to install unbuntu first... but the better way would be to first install windows and then ubuntu
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> hilikus: look in ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections/
[20:37] <bnwkeys> subz3r0: nobody gave me that advice, I wanted ubuntu first cuz I'm making it a dev platform. I'm still a noob, but anyways, am I screwed? I don't really want to reinstall both OS's again, but will if I have to. :(
[20:38] <gordonjcp> bnwkeys: you can probably get away with just reinstalling the boot loader
[20:38] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: did u get a 'Unable to find expected entry 'partner/binary-powerpc/Packages' error ???
[20:38] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: during upgrade?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: you can boot to liveCD and reinstate grub there. It is WAAAY easier to install junky windows first then install ubuntu
[20:38] <subz3r0> bnwkeys, you could try to use gparted. but it depends on how many primary partitions etc... you have. just give it a try
[20:39] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez:  I haven't started yet, still reading
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: leave unpartitioned space when you install windows instead of the default 100% space use
[20:39] <vladimirsanchez> np
[20:39] <bnwkeys> cool, lots of recommendations, I'll try gparted first, then try using my ubuntu install disk again, definately my mistake for instaling ubuntu first
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[20:40] <gordonjcp> bnwkeys: if your hardware supports virtualisation, run Windows in a VM ;-)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: you've done it the hard way around basicaly
[20:40]  * bnwkeys kicking self
[20:40] <hilikus> thanks wan26
[20:46] <emph> Problem: When I played a movie, it slowed down or downright freezed most of the time. I used the "Additional drivers" application to download a binary blob driver (Propriety graphics driver FGLRX ATI/AMD, the secondary option because the first one didn't work) and now the movie reproduction is smoother but it still slows down occasionally or even freezes momentarily, and it's very annoying. Note1: This is not a hardware problem, I was able to p
[20:46] <emph> lay everything under Windows. Note2: This is not a matter of which player I'm using, I've tried 4 now and all of them have the same issue.
[20:48] <emph> Note3: The audio never gets cut, it's only the video.
[20:50] <mereguillen> holaaaa
[20:51] <emph> Note4: I watched a show's episode on an online video player and it worked just fine.
[20:52] <dr_willis> could be the video res/codec is to much for the machine.
[20:53] <Guest65161> Damn it, my nickname didn't go through -_-
[20:53] <Guest65161> of all the faggotry
[20:54] <ammw> anyone here
[20:54] <dr_willis> lots-o-people-here.
[20:54] <ammw> can someone give me advice on installing ubuntu
[20:54] <dr_willis> give us details of the issue..
[20:55] <ammw> ok well first i want to dual boot ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7 i have 2 sepearte hard drives 1 500gb and 1 250gb the 500gb haswindows 7 on it the 250 i want ubuntu on it
[20:55] <emph> dr_willis: I was able to play every single thing, included this particular movie, running Windows
[20:55] <[twisti]> ever since upgrading from LTS 10 to LTS 12 precise, i get these error messages on login. reboot doesnt fix them. can someone help me figure out what to do about it/what it means ? *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot *** *** /dev/md1 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[20:56] <ammw> what i would like is a optionwhen computer starts up to select os to use but i want my boot mgr to stay default oem
[20:56] <dr_willis> ati spends more time and $$ optmizeing their drivers for windows. What are your system specs emph ?
[20:56] <dr_willis> ammw:  use 2 hard drives. or use a usb flash to keep grub on for booting the linux side.
[20:56] <bekks> ammw: Thats not possible. Either you'll have a OEM mbr, OR you have the option to choose.
[20:56] <dr_willis> theres dozens of ways to restore the windows MBR if you ever want to.
[20:57] <ammw> can i just use what i have now?
[20:57] <aLeSD_> hi all
[20:57] <dr_willis> you would need some windows tools to boot the linux install. I dont do it that way.
[20:57] <aLeSD_> I have an atom dualcore and ubuntu go slow
[20:57] <dr_willis> and thus you wouldnot be using the OEM Mbr.
[20:57] <aLeSD_> is compiz ?
[20:57] <ammw> reason why is back year ago i tried dual booting but on 1 disk windows 7 and ubuntu when i deleated ubuntu tho it deleated my boot manager and comp was garbage
[20:57] <dr_willis> atom is dual core?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: after a certain number of mounts, the filesystems are fscked whether they need it or not
[20:57] <aLeSD_> dr_willis: my atom yes
[20:58] <emph> dr_willis: I don't know the details right now, but it doesn't really matter, it's not a hardware problem
[20:58] <dr_willis> ammw:  comp needed  to have the 3windows mbr reinstalled...
[20:58] <[twisti]> gordonjcp: i would happily accept that, if they were
[20:58] <[twisti]> but like i said, they arent
[20:58] <aLeSD_> dr_willis: dualcore with hyperthreading
[20:58] <[twisti]> i rebooted over ten times, still getting the message
[20:58] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: tried fscking manually?
[20:58] <emph> dr_willis: Do you know of an open-source equivalent driver I could use?
[20:58] <aLeSD_> Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N550
[20:58] <wan26> How many processors can ubuntu take
[20:58] <fommil> hi all - can somebody please recommend a command line tool to a) extract page ranges from a PDF file AND b) split a PDF which has been printed "two on a page" back into single sheet pages ?
[20:58] <[twisti]> gordonjcp: dont really know what that is or how i would do that
[20:58] <ammw> so should i just install ubuntu then and let it decide what to use or?
[20:58] <dr_willis> emph:  theres only the ATI drivers in the repos, and the fglrx drivers..
[20:58] <aLeSD_> I think the prob is compiz ..... suggestons ?
[20:58] <gordonjcp> !fsck
[20:59] <dr_willis> aLeSD_:  use lubuntu, or unity-2d.  But my 2 netbooks seem to handle Unity 3d with compiz fine.
[20:59] <aLeSD_> dr_willis, I use external moinitor with fullHD
[20:59] <[twisti]> im a bit scared to try those commands, since its a headless server on the other side of the world
[20:59] <trix`G> Hi guys
[21:00] <aLeSD_> ah
[21:00] <aLeSD_> the problem is in moving windows
[21:00] <mega1> should i upgrade from 10.04 to 12
[21:00] <trix`G> I have an Alienware m17x-r2 laptop, and my radeon video card keeps overheating and causing the laptop to shut off.
[21:00] <aLeSD_> no no downgrade to 5.04
[21:00] <trix`G> I've been watching the fans while this happens and it's clear that they aren't going full speed even when the laptop dies
[21:01] <trix`G> so, I'm wondering if anyone can help me getting fancontrol working so I can speed up the fans?
[21:01] <dr_willis> aLeSD_:  and your CPU is a Atom? My netbooks had laggy playback in windows and linux with FULL 1080P hd video.  i always reencoded them down to a less cpu intensive size/codec and they would play fine.
[21:01] <dr_willis> mega1:  if you need the features.
[21:01] <samuel_> Hi. Can anybody help me please?
[21:01] <hfic> ok so I'm starting to make headway I think into my smb issues. I'm able to access shares now .. kinda. I keep getting 'unable to mount location , failed to mount windows share'
[21:02] <[twisti]> mega1: for what its worth, ever since i did that, everyone is complaining that my server is laggy
[21:02] <trix`G> I have tried following instructions google brought me to set up fancontrol package and pwmconfig and such, but it fails at the pwmconfig step with "there are no pwm devices found" even though the sensors-detect program found and installed the coretemp module
[21:02] <aLeSD_> dr_willis: never tryed fullHDF content .. I use the FullHD monitor as desktop
[21:02] <mega1> will it cause problems
[21:02] <wan26> trix`G, dumb question but is acpi on?
[21:03] <dr_willis> aLeSD_:  the type of monitor wouldent matter.. the video codec could.
[21:03] <samuel_> can someone help me please?
[21:03] <trix`G> wan26: Is that a kernel module?  "lsmod | grep acpi" did not show a result
[21:03] <dr_willis> samuel_:  have you even asked a question?
[21:04] <gordonjcp> !help | samuel_
[21:04] <aLeSD_> I use 3.5.1 kernel
[21:04] <samuel_> ok sorry
[21:04] <guntbert> fommil: look at pdfsam and pdfshuffler
[21:05] <guntbert> !info pdfsam > fommil
[21:05] <guntbert> !info pdfshuffler > fommil
[21:05] <samuel_> Flash doesn't work and I don't know what I have to do.
[21:05] <Cowz> do you mean flash in your browser doesn't work?
[21:05] <fommil> guntbert: thanks. I also think this helps http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12482/split-pages-in-pdf PDFJAM and PDFTK
[21:06] <dr_willis> ive given up on flash and just use the various flash-replacer extensions and flash downloader addons for my browsers. :)
[21:06] <samuel_> yes
[21:06] <Cowz> have you downloaded the most recent version?
[21:06] <dr_willis> samuel_:  and how did you install flash?
[21:06] <dr_willis> samuel_:  and what happens on youtube.com when you try to watch a video?
[21:07] <Cowz> I suggest you get a Firefox addon called flash-aid
[21:07] <Cowz> get it, run it, and it will do the rest for you
[21:07] <samuel_> I get a white screen
[21:07] <wan26> trix`G, maybe have a look at acpitool, to change the fan back to auto
[21:07] <Cowz> 0_o
[21:07] <samuel_> where can I download flash-aid?
[21:08] <trix`G> wan26: I don't really want auto, that has problems.  I want to manually set the fan speeds to run at full 100% all of the time
[21:08] <manas_b> on the internet
[21:08] <Cowz> open mozilla, go to tools>add-ons, then search for flash-aid
[21:09] <Cowz> I need help recoloring stuff on x chat =/
[21:10] <IdleOne> Cowz: you can try #xchat
[21:10] <brontosaurusrex> Cowz, color scheme? i think i just found the absolute perfection
[21:10] <Cowz> I'm not sure. I literally just DL'd this, so I guess it would be default
[21:11] <samuel_> I can't find it.
[21:11] <MonkeyDust>  /quit brb
[21:11] <samuel_> I only see flashpause 0.1
[21:12] <Cowz> Strange, samuel. you could try searching the keywords Linux and Flash
[21:12] <Cowz> That's how I cam across it for the first time
[21:12] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/flash-aid-firefox-add-on.html
[21:12] <dr_willis> good luck if it works...
[21:13] <dr_willis> This add-on has been removed by its author. ......
[21:13] <dr_willis> Its Dead Jim.
[21:14] <dell> hi All - I have problem with dell latitude e6400 atg - my touchscreen not work in ubuntu - not can find corrected questions
[21:14] <bekks> dr_willis: Let it go. :P
[21:14] <samuel_> yes it's dead
[21:14] <Cowz> sad =(
[21:15] <dr_willis> guess if you really want it  a little googling found --> https://github.com/webgapps/flashaid/downloads
[21:16] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, what would be a perfect video page for a linuxer?
[21:16] <dr_willis> brontosaurusrex:  huh?
[21:16] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, a download file link, or something else?
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, perfect youtube
[21:17] <dr_willis> Not sure what you are asking....
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, flash = problem, what would be a replacement?
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> for video
[21:18] <dr_willis> brontosaurusrex:  html5/webm  youtube is allready doing it for many of their videos.
[21:18] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: Everything the author of a page offers you as alternative.
[21:18] <dr_willis> theres always been alternatives to flash..
[21:18] <dr_willis> Theres even java based players
[21:18] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, bekks ok, so "wget http://linktofile.mp4" is cool?
[21:18] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: You are mixing up things hopelessly.
[21:19] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, what do you mean?
[21:19] <bekks> wget has nothing to do with watching a video. wget is a download tool.
[21:19] <dr_willis> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4856913/flash-video-alternative
[21:19] <bekks> and mp4 has nothing to do with flash, nor it is a replacement for interactive contents, because mp4 is video only.
[21:19] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, ok, then : mplayer file.mp4 or webm
[21:20] <StinkyTaco> rather than pay someone for usenet access cant I just run my own usenet server? or does that cost money too? TIA :)
[21:20] <dr_willis> flash i thinkis so problematic because it got pushed into the 'video player' role.
[21:20] <dr_willis> StinkyTaco:  you can run whatever servers you want..
[21:21] <dr_willis> but usenet is a network of servers..   you can run your own newsgroup server if you wanted.
[21:21] <dr_willis> been years since i last used usenet. ;)
[21:21] <emph_> I've downloaded a linux ATI driver from the official website, how do I run it? (.run format)
[21:21] <StinkyTaco> will I be able to connect to other usenet servers too?
[21:21] <mindstorm> chmod +x and ./run
[21:21] <dr_willis> emph_:  stop the X server,  make the file executable. run it as root   'sudo ./whatever.run' good luck getting it working.
[21:22] <subz3r0> bekks: that is definetely not true. mp4 is just a container. both will work. audio and video
[21:22] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, a player that can switch is obviously a poor solution, since a possibly small webmaster will not have resources to preapare N files
[21:22] <emph_> dr_willis: I have no idea how to do any of that, I'm a Linux newbie
[21:22] <Newtoubuntu> how do i make programs default, using details never works.
[21:22] <samuel_> http://oi50.tinypic.com/vd0382.jpg
[21:22] <brontosaurusrex> nm, thats offtopic
[21:22] <dr_willis> emph_:  i would suggest spending a half hour reading some bash tutorials to get somne shell basics learned.
[21:23] <samuel_> That is what i get.
[21:23] <emph_> dr_willis: I'll do that, but for now I'd like to get this over with, how do I do it to simply run a .run program?
[21:24] <subz3r0> emph_, ./blabla.run
[21:25] <samuel_> That's what I get ---> http://oi50.tinypic.com/vd0382.jpg
[21:25] <mindstorm> make it executable i.e. chmod +x file.run ... then execute it via cli by using "sudo ./file.run"
[21:26] <StinkyTaco> Yeah, my ISP does not have usenet access anymore, I was going to try running a usenet server, so I can download some other emph_ ./.run or sh .run I think, I am new too
[21:26] <subz3r0> emph_, maybe you must make it first executable with: chmod  +x blabla.run
[21:26] <brontosaurusrex> mindstorm, you dont run unknown scripts as sudo
[21:26] <subz3r0> emph_, do not follow his step.... if you dont need sudo, dont use it
[21:26] <Newtoubuntu> i fixed my question. no one knew?!!? wow
[21:27] <subz3r0> like brontosaurusrex said... you wont run unknown scripts as root
[21:27] <trix`G> So does anyone know why pwmconfig would fail to detect pwm-capable sensor modules when the coretemp module activated by sensors-detect is installed active and working just fine?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Newtoubuntu: it happens
[21:28] <pyrrhic> ActionParsnip, hey. :D
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> pyrrhic: hi
[21:28] <mindstorm> my bad, always did since as a driver installation from a known source it was known, maybe im just too trusting
[21:28] <brontosaurusrex> Newtoubuntu, nautilus?
[21:28] <pyrrhic> ActionParsnip, Any experience with wine?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> pyrrhic: very little, wassup
[21:29] <Guest1100101> Hi, my Firefox 15 crashes on some sites with Flash video, but Youtube flash videos work fine (on lucid with flash 11.2 r202) - the fun is Firefox started up with a clean profile does not crash (have tried Flash-aid, flash 11.1, mms.cfg tweaks)