[09:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: i am running the 4 beta and I got to says I like it!
[09:47] <Raj007> elky: Ahh never knew. I never would've imagined either.
[09:47] <FishFace> elky, Yep. Some believe the MS transmitter/receiver holds some kind of windows settings. All I know is that it works :)
[09:47] <elky> Raj007, you could also try installing gpointing-device-settings if you want to try fine-tuning. It doesn't seem to be affecting my stuff, but it might yours.
[09:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: especially a feature i haven't used before in previous editions like the web console :p
[09:48] <elky> FishFace, it was mere usb I had issues with, but the KVM was probably playing with it still
[09:48] <FishFace> Yeah
[09:48] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: I'm still on 3.6.13 stable. But i have tried Chrome 10.x.xxx Beta and i have to say this is the browser i'm gonna use. It's just too darn fast.
[09:48] <scriptwarlock> Tristan3199us, so this is about the hardware for bt?
[09:48] <Konnie> Will lubuntu be compatible with a non x86-64 processor?
[09:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: might have to check that out.  i've been also using links lol
[09:49] <Ros_coe> Konnie: debian sure is
[09:49] <ddarky> Konnie: Yes. You can just use anything on either processor.
[09:50] <Konnie> Im generally just looking for the lightest thing out there, that is at least sort of windows-esque so I don't have to re-learn the whole thing from scratch.
[09:50] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Konnie: yes, i believe that's why they made the version, leaning more towards older machines
[09:50] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly, Links? Hah. But if you use Google Chrome, get the BETA version. 10 is incredibly fast and i don't know if GPU rendering is helping it be fast(i dunno if it works) but i have it enabled and pre-rendering enabled. This is a beauty.
[09:50] <Us3r_Unfriendly> xbuntu looks light too but lubuntu is probably lighter, anyone else agree?
[09:50]  * scriptwarlock late in responding..
[09:51] <DeadPanda> Us3r_Unfriendly, agreed; Crunchbang is also rather light, but not too beginner friendly
[09:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: might check that out, but i need a addon for a webconsole.  does chrome have that by chance?
[09:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DeadPanda: crunchbang also doesn't use gnome
[09:51] <Ros_coe> oh. i was thinking SPARC/ARM/POWERPC etc....
[09:52] <Konnie> Alright then, lubuntu it is. Cheers. : ] Anything I should be aware of before I start installing it?
[09:52] <Konnie> Ive never done anything Linux before.
[09:52] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: I don't know, try checking online.
[09:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Konnie: prepair for a smile on your face
[09:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: sounds good
[09:53] <DeadPanda> Konnie, backup your data, blah blah
[09:53] <DeadPanda> Konnie, other than that it should be fairly smooth; if the pc's old the hardware's probably well supported by now
[09:53] <ddarky> Konnie: if you insist ultimate minimalism, start off with 12MB iso. You end up with nothing. Install openbox + chromium. That should get you your Internet.
[09:53] <ddarky> Along with few packages such as xorg.
[09:53] <DeadPanda> Konnie, how much memory/processing power does this machine have?
[09:54] <amin> please help if I install Nginx via repository where the "nginx config" file and "pid file" would be located
[09:54] <minitower> hi
[09:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Konnie: i first started on saybyon and I hated linux, cuz i thought that was linux when i first tried it.  you might go distro hopping till you find the one you like.  but nowadays it's ubuntu / arch / fedora / gentoo as the main contenders, then you go from there to what window manager and desktop environment you want to use...might take a while to find what your looking for
[09:55] <Konnie> DeadPanda: I've got about 500mb of ram, and about a 1.5Ghz Intel Pentium M... This is off the top of my head from what I peeked at a while back.
[09:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> crunchbang is ubuntu with openbox...
[09:55] <ddarky> Konnie: What is your purpose for this crappy machine?
[09:56] <zamba> does something equivalent of /etc/skel exist for gnome/X sessions?
[09:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> enlightment is nice though, and pretty...that's what i use on arch.  But I'm always on Ubuntu now a days
[09:56] <Konnie> That being said, it does not perform like it should. I'm almost certain that half of it has burned to death by now. The purpose... Internet, taking notes, writing, writing, writing.
[09:56] <tristan3100> can anyone help me make my camera on my laptop function
[09:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> tristan3100: how so?
[09:57] <JenniferB2> how do I install a vnc server on an ubuntu server ( gnome-core and others already installed )
[09:57] <JenniferB2> what one should I install ?
[09:57] <Konnie> Us3r_Unfriendly: Ill start off with lUbuntu and go from there. I won't be using this for more than a month or two hopefully.
[09:57] <ardchoille> Konnie: I would suggest lubuntu or maybe xubuntu. You may even get by with Ubuntu and a light window manager such as openbox
[09:57] <ddarky> Konnie: 12MB-Mini.iso + xorg + openbox + tint2 + chromium + $YOUR_CHOICE_OF_WORD_PROCESSOR
[09:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Konnie: i'd say lubuntu would be too you liking...but also use light apps as well
[09:57] <tristan3100> if i use cheese for example i see colored squares instad
[09:57] <DeadPanda> JenniferB2, you might already have one; look in System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[09:57] <scriptwarlock> tristan3100, what could be the problem?
[09:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Konnie: lubuntu is what your looking for
[09:58] <Sulumar> Greetings
[09:58] <tristan3100> im using a weird version and the camera function isnt working
[09:58] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ssh ftw
[09:58] <JenniferB2> DeadPanda: I don't have ubuntu desktop environment.. that's where I want to go :)
[09:58] <DeadPanda> ah ;) two seconds
[09:58] <tristan3100> im using a laptop on skype and they cant see me
[09:58] <JenniferB2> I only have the command line :)
[09:58] <Us3r_Unfriendly> JenniferB2: and your not happy with that?
[09:59] <scriptwarlock> tristan3100, type lsusb in the terminal to begin with
[09:59] <sy`> ddarky: mini.iso + emacs + kernel = desktop :)
[09:59] <JenniferB2> Us3r_Unfriendly: well.. I want to use some server gui tools .. so I need a vnc server i think
[09:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sy`: vi ftw
[09:59] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: ^_~
[09:59] <ddarky> sy`: If you're using emacs, you must had forgotten to install git
[09:59] <ddarky> :)
[10:00] <sy`> lol
[10:00] <DeadPanda> JenniferB2, "vino" is the default server in Ubuntu Desktop
[10:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ddarky: i have both but not with git
[10:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ddarky: vi is my fav
[10:00] <ardchoille> emacs is a nice OS, perhaps someone will write a good text editor for it someday
[10:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nano...what?!
[10:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ardchoille: i was talking about emacs as in text editor
[10:01] <DeadPanda> ardchoille, because nobody here has ever heard that joke before
[10:01] <sy`> ardchoille: You are incorrect, Emacs is the tool in which God constructs the Universe. :)
[10:01] <tristan3100> anybody know how to add a camera
[10:01] <ardchoille> DeadPanda: yeah, it's an old joke
[10:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> it's about to be a vi -vs- emacs battle up in here
[10:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> joke
[10:01] <tristan3100> anyone familar with backtrack, i need to set up a camera on a laptop but have no idea where to start
[10:02] <JenniferB2> DeadPanda: I installed that.. but couldn't find out how to start it or set it up using teh command line.. all guides talked about settings > ...
[10:02] <ddarky> tristan3100: You're in wrong channel. Ho ho.
[10:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> tristan3100: i do but this is not the channel for backtrack help
[10:02] <scriptwarlock> tristan3100, visit #backtrack-linux if its what you need
[10:02] <sy`> I program in CL and Clojure so... Emacs > Vim. :)
[10:02] <sy`> Vim is nice though, keybinding wise.
[10:02] <DeadPanda> JenniferB2, vino's tied closely to user sessions, it might not be what you're after
[10:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sy`: i believe you still can use vim for that
[10:03] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: You can, but it's not as integrated.
[10:03] <tristan3100> scriptwarlock: nobody there.. please help...
[10:04] <DeadPanda> JenniferB2, there's tightvncserver, I know the client's high quality, but I've never configured the server before on Linux; might want to check the wiki
[10:04] <scriptwarlock> tristan3100, your using backtrack?
[10:04] <ddarky> tristan3100: Install cheese. That should work out of the box. Otherwise, I would assume you got a half-incompatible camera.
[10:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> emacs isn't for me.  I'm a vim lover.  and i've used both but i like vim more.  it a matter of personal opinion on this case.  it's like saying what distro is better.  alot of ppl will get upset
[10:05] <tristan3100> scriptwarlock: yes
[10:05] <tristan3100> ddarky: i tried.. all i see is colored squares
[10:05] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: I agree, but I have remapped my movement keys to vim's hjkl. ^_^
[10:06] <amarin> hi
[10:06] <andruha1123> would anyone be willing to help me out with linux in general? I'm learning linux and im confused on how to do some stuff
[10:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sy`: i never use those keys lol
[10:06] <ddarky> tristan3100: Try a different webcam. Borrow it from a friend or something. And if that works well, there you go. Iirc, it should be plug-n-play.
[10:06] <amarin> puppylinux doesn't support the type of partition i have
[10:06] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: Arrow user?
[10:06] <sy`> andruha1123: Like what?
[10:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sy`: i am, and i know that's not the proper way but hey, that's me
[10:06] <amarin> Us3r_Unfriendly: How easy would it be to use root?
[10:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: easy for me...
[10:07] <andruha1123> sy, like how do i do this: "Print out your environment settings. Which variable may be used to store the CPU type of your machine?"
[10:07] <tristan3100> says cannot send to channel #backtrack-linux
[10:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: first you have to address you root account with a password
[10:07] <lkhatiwada> hello
[10:07] <amarin> Us3r_Unfriendly: su passwd?
[10:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: sudo passwd        in a terminal will work
[10:07] <tristan3100> anyone feel like helping anyways..
[10:07] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: You should try to force yourself by disabling the arrow keys. Takes a while but I assume it would benefit you as I believe Vim's HJKL are faster.
[10:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sure
[10:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: then in a terminal:         su -             to log in, and use your new password
[10:08] <amarin> password updated successfully
[10:08] <amarin> got root
[10:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: be careful where you step as root
[10:08] <sy`> andruha1123: Maybe I read wrong, in bash?
[10:08] <amarin> yup how do i do it as root?
[10:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: ...as what as root?
[10:09] <amarin> check the filesystem for bad sectors
[10:09] <amarin> hhd
[10:09] <amarin> oh wait i cant do it i cant unmount
[10:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin:        fsck -p
[10:09] <andruha1123> sy, says I to work in Shell environment
[10:09] <amarin> is it the same in root as console?
[10:09] <amarin> its not
[10:09] <scriptwarlock> tristan3100, lsusb
[10:09] <amarin> i can get root off my server cd.
[10:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> umount /dev/andthepartition
[10:10] <amarin> partition is the filesystem?
[10:10] <tryagainplss> hello everyone xD. Can I get some help using xchat?
[10:10] <amarin> ok go to unmount?
[10:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> well the filestructure is on the partition
[10:10] <amarin> yes
[10:10] <samitheberber> tryagainplss: what kind of help do you need?
[10:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> <--------wee-chat and irssi, no xchat
[10:11] <amarin> so ok
[10:11] <tryagainplss> well.. I need help setting up a LAN server wherein everyone in my network can go chat with each other
[10:11] <amarin> How do i do this from a bash screen
[10:11] <amarin> use fsck -p
[10:11] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: ERC inside Emacs. ^__^
[10:11] <amarin> from bash
[10:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: are you on the live cd...and please don't troll
[10:11] <amarin> no not a live cd.
[10:12] <amarin> but
[10:12] <amarin> oh sorry yes
[10:12] <amarin> i can get bash from my cd.
[10:12] <amarin> so how do i use bash.
[10:12] <amarin> to do fsck -p
[10:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: use a live cd...if you need to run fsck with a unmounted partition, this method will not work
[10:13] <ddarky> tryagainplss: Install pidgin for all machines. Use bonjour.
[10:13] <andruha1123> can someone tell what I'm suppose to do for this exercise (im learning linux): "Print out your environment settings. Which variable may be used to store the CPU type of your machine?"
[10:13] <amarin> us3r_Unfriendly: I need to use bash I have no live cd that will work but I can get into a bash console.
[10:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: ....on a running partition that your already on.  you need to use the live cd if it's asking your to unmount the drive your trying to repair
[10:13] <overclucker> andruha1123: type set
[10:13] <tryagainplss> ddarky: oh okay..
[10:13] <amarin> Us3r_Unfriendly: I know what about grub.
[10:13] <amarin> is it easy to do with grub
[10:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: try it....            fsck -p
[10:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what's the output
[10:14] <samitheberber> tryagainplss: I'm not sure if XChat can provide IRC-server, but there are some other software, which do that
[10:14] <andruha1123> overclucker, is that it? what about for the second part of the question
[10:14] <amarin> amarin@ubuntu:~$ fsck -p
[10:14] <amarin> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[10:14] <amarin> /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root is mounted.
[10:14] <amarin> WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[10:14] <amarin> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
[10:14] <FloodBot1> amarin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:14] <amarin> Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
[10:15] <ardchoille> samitheberber: xchat is a client, it doesn't provide an irc server
[10:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: sudo lshw
[10:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: sudo dmidecode
[10:15] <overclucker> andruha1123: scroll through the envoronment cariables exposed by set, and find your answer
[10:15] <samitheberber> ardchoille: yeah, I thought so
[10:15] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, thank you, will try that
[10:16] <samitheberber> tryagainplss: like ardchoille told, you can't do that with XChat
[10:16] <amarin> grubs hardout
[10:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> tryagainplss: what are you trying to do in xchat?
[10:16] <sacarlson> amarin: sounds like it might be an encrypted luks partition
[10:16] <amarin> yes
[10:16] <tryagainplss> well... not exactly xchat
[10:16] <amarin> its encrypted
[10:16] <tryagainplss> but what I need is a type of irc server wherein everyone in my network can chat with each other
[10:16] <tryagainplss> for a lan party
[10:16] <amarin> ok
[10:17] <ardchoille> tryagainplss: you might look into dancer ircd
[10:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> tryagainplss: make your own on a server
[10:17] <amarin> this is my question now: can I use terminal to force fsck -p at boot. Wont that fix my bad sectors and the filesystem wont be mounted?
[10:17] <Pumpkin-> tryagainplss: I'm not sure if any ircd's are pacakged for ubuntu, but plenty exist and the ones I'm familiar with at least are easy enough to build.
[10:17] <tryagainplss> make your own on a server. yes that is what im trying to do. but dont konw how to
[10:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly>  /join "your own channel"
[10:18] <ardchoille> tryagainplss: dancer-ircd is in the repos
[10:18] <amarin> if I could force fsck -p at boot that would work correct?
[10:18] <ardchoille> tryagainplss: or you could have them all join #tryagainplss here on freenode :)
[10:18] <amarin> but....I dont know what forces it at boot.
[10:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: nope your partition should mount at boot
[10:19] <Jordan_U> !fsck | amarin
[10:19] <amarin> Us3r_Unfriendly: can I buy linux on a usb stick via the internetz?
[10:19] <hlinuxer> 看来我进错地方了#--
[10:20] <bazhang> !cn | hlinuxer
[10:20] <amarin> Jordan_U but i need to force it to do -p is that possible?
[10:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: or you could use unetbootin, ubuntu.iso, and a flashdrive and save some $
[10:20] <amarin> us3r_friendly: ! gold!!!
[10:20] <amarin> never thought of that
[10:20] <hlinuxer> Thankyou!
[10:20] <amarin> thanks matey
[10:21] <amarin> you just solved my problem
[10:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> here's a question, has anyone made a bootable windows flashdrive off a LINUX system??
[10:21] <amarin> nope
[10:21] <tryagainplss> I see,
[10:21] <tryagainplss> thanks everyone
[10:21] <tryagainplss> xD
[10:22] <bazhang> Us3r_Unfriendly, try in ##windows
[10:22] <DeadPanda> Us3r_Unfriendly, it's super possible
[10:22] <DeadPanda> Us3r_Unfriendly, most of the tools you use to achieve it in Windows are ported from Linux anyway
[10:22] <folklore> there a command to resolve a hostname in linux?
[10:22] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, can't you just boot windows with vmware in linux? (im a newb to linux, so this might be stupid)
[10:22] <amarin> can somebody recommend me a program that I can boot off a usb that will fix my bad sectors on my hdd
[10:22] <sacarlson> Us3r_Unfriendly: I have had persistent linux systems on usb flash and I have had windows run in virtualbox on windows so I know that I could run windows from usb form linux
[10:22] <Pumpkin-> folklore: "host"
[10:22] <folklore> thx
[10:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: that is my solution, but i'm looking for a cli way of doing it, creating a mbr and cp -r everything over
[10:23] <doodie> where are soundfont (SF2) files located ?
[10:24] <ddarky> amarin: Great idea scenario. Back up your hard drive. Get another hard drive.
[10:24] <sacarlson> Us3r_Unfriendly: there are methods on the pendrive site you might want to see
[10:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i've actually made a windows 7 bootable flashdrive from a virtual machine of 7 and with some windows program, but personally I hate windows.  That's why I asked.  I would like to achieve this goal from a Linux/unix system
[10:25] <balou> hi, i'm using Ubuntu Jaunty,  and have installed miramar (thunderbird 3.3) , but all email that get sent from outlook turn attachments into winmail.dat files
[10:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ...a linux/unix system, alone...no windows
[10:25] <balou> i've tried to find a solution that works online, but failed ... does anyone have this working in mirimar  (i know this is probably more a thunderbird question than ubuntu)
[10:25] <Jordan_U> !eol | balou
[10:25] <amarin> ddarky: I cant afford another hdd.
[10:26] <ddarky> ddarky: Every HDD have a life expectancy. Nothing lasts forever.
[10:26] <ddarky> Why did I just tab myself? ._.
[10:26] <amarin> ddarky: I dont know
[10:26] <ddarky> amarin: That message was for you.
[10:26] <amarin> ddarky: Yes, thank you.
[10:26] <ardchoille> ddarky: you must be using my keyboard :)
[10:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> my girlfriend actually did could last christmas, she bought me a external hdd that she saw in one of her girly megazines.
[10:26] <ddarky> ardchoille: :)
[10:27] <amarin> ddarky: What can i run from a usb that will fix bad sectors on a encrypted hdd
[10:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> *not could/ good
[10:27] <amarin> I dont wish to use linux.
[10:27] <amarin> unless I have to.
[10:28] <Bohemian_Cow> I think you might be in the wrong channel then Amarin ;)
[10:28] <amarin> bohemian_Cow: your right
[10:28] <scriptwarlock> amarin, go buy usb stick and put ubuntu on it in that way you dont need a hard disk anymore
[10:28] <andruha1123> how do i disable the popup asking me for the password everytime i leave my computer for few minutes? its really annoying
[10:28] <ddarky> amarin: You should try asking in #lvm since you're using encrypted hdd -- The chance is that it may be using lvm and they may give better suggestions. Really, just get another hard drive. We're not talking about a Ferrari here.
[10:28] <coraxx> amarin: you have to :-)
[10:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> amarin: you should give a chance.  I hated linux when i first began, but i like it now.  especially with all the stuff i can do with it.  here's my desktop:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHg5E3nh6Rs&hd=1
[10:29] <Bohemian_Cow> A Mac might be able to read the LVM info if you have acces to one
[10:29] <andruha1123> yeah, hard drives are sooo cheap now-a-days
[10:29] <Bohemian_Cow> with the right software of course
[10:29] <scriptwarlock> andruha1123, maybe you activated the screensaver
[10:29] <amarin> what version of linux would fix a lvm
[10:29] <amarin> logical volume manager hardrive
[10:30] <amarin> encrypted or something.
[10:30] <sy`> o_O
[10:30] <andruha1123> scriptwarlock, lol that was obvious
[10:30] <Bohemian_Cow> if its an encrypted volume you dont have the password to, just give up
[10:30] <amarin> i have the password
[10:30] <Raj007> andruha1123: Just go to Settings-> Screensaver and uncheck the box "Lock screen...."
[10:30] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: ok ... I just gotta have that 'digital globe' as a background ...and be able to rotate the windows :-) ... will you share how/where you got it :) ?
[10:31] <amarin> Bohemian_Cow
[10:31] <amarin> what versions
[10:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: I stole it from a russian website
[10:31] <amarin> of linux a new version downloaded form linux.com will correct.
[10:31] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: cool :-)
[10:31] <amarin> ubuntu
[10:31] <balou> can anyone recommend a good winmail.dat reader for ubuntu
[10:31] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: can i see what coraxx is talking about ? :)
[10:31] <varunthacker> has the ideas list for GSOC 2011 from Ubuntu been released yet?
[10:31] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: that will teach 'em
[10:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHg5E3nh6Rs&hd=1
[10:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: it's what i'm running off of
[10:32] <Bohemian_Cow> Amarin checkout: www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[10:32] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: congratulations you just bought yourself a whole lot of questions from me on how to customize mine.
[10:33] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: seriously ...I did see the rotate window effect as something you could setup manually in compiz or somethin' .... but how did you do it ...was it simple....did you have to install suplemental packages ?
[10:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: yeah i usually get that alot after i show ppl that video
[10:33] <Bohemian_Cow> TestDisk helped me out on a old FAT32 drive might work for you too
[10:33] <Bohemian_Cow> Since LVM is supported in it
[10:33] <amarin> Bohemian_Cow: Can test disk fix bad sectors?
[10:33] <Bohemian_Cow> Well it can help get your stuff off it
[10:33] <amarin> Bohemian_Cow: Sorry I meant block off bad sectors.
[10:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: compiz yes, video wallpaper is a script at boot i wrote with mplayer and "xwinwrap"
[10:33] <Bohemian_Cow> so you can repartition it
[10:34] <Bohemian_Cow> of bad blocks
[10:34] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: first question - How the background?
[10:34] <Bohemian_Cow> Bad blocks is a whole other issue
[10:34] <Raj007> err wallpaper even.
[10:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: a .avi; xwinwrap; mplayer
[10:34] <amarin> Bohemian_Cow: unsure of what you mean. I wish to do something similar to fsck -p
[10:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: command:    xwinwrap -ni -o 0.5 -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -- mplayer -wid WID -quiet -nosound -loop 0 /home/eric/Downloads/Startup Wallpaper/digital_world.wmv
[10:35] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: will that way (if i look it up) allow me to place icons on the desktop (i doubt it, so asking)
[10:35] <sacarlson> amarin: in ubuntu a luks encrypted disk is opened easily with System>admin>disk utility, with that you can mount an encrypted disk with a gui
[10:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: nope and yes...the -o 0.5 makes it transparent, ableing me to click on icons
[10:35] <Bohemian_Cow> is your LVM setoup spread over several disks?
[10:36] <Bohemian_Cow> setup
[10:36] <sacarlson> amarin: sorry in your case decrypt and mount
[10:36] <amarin> sacarlson: Will a new version of ubuntu support lvm?
[10:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: if at 1.0 then nope
[10:36] <amarin> encrypted
[10:36] <sacarlson> amarin: even older will back to 8.04
[10:36] <ddarky> amarin: Definitely.
[10:36] <amarin> cool thanks
[10:36] <amarin> what im gunna do is
[10:37] <amarin> make  a usb of the latest ubuntu. Boot into that usb and use that to fsck -p the drive i am currently mounted on.
[10:37] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: ah ok
[10:37] <amarin> that should do it.
[10:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: I also had to install compiz experimental plugins that you don't usually get to use.  Xwinwrap is running mplayer as my background
[10:37] <sacarlson> amarin: if the disk is good just see if it mounts with what I said above
[10:37] <andruha1123> :( why is linux so hard to understand? so confusing!! (I have to work in terminal)
[10:38] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: I see no use of this (other than OMG Cool factor) but how do you rotate the windows in a circle and so forth?
[10:38] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: this workstation I'm using now is using the experimental compiz too ...the unstable one ...it works fine tho.
[10:38] <amarin> sacarlson: The disk is mounted i wish to block off any bad sectors.
[10:38] <erUSUL> andruha1123: all powerfull things are somewhat complex :)
[10:38] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: ditto on Raj007's question
[10:38] <sacarlson> amarin: if it has bad sectors just copy what you can and reformat
[10:38] <Bohemian_Cow> @ Andry: when you get over the first scare of using a console youll find  that its often a whole lot easier to fix stuff
[10:38] <amarin> sacarlson: Done that twice.
[10:38] <scriptwarlock> andruha1123, linux is not windows
[10:39] <amarin> sacarlson: Is it even worth blocking off bad sectors?
[10:39] <andruha1123> erUSUL, i just wish there were some instruction on how to do these exercises I have to do.. it just tell me to do it
[10:39] <sacarlson> amarin: then time to use it as a music video disk or trash it
[10:39] <amarin> sacarlson: ok
[10:39] <amarin> sacarlson: I have another question can you help me
[10:39] <andruha1123> scriptwarlock, i never said it was windows :P
[10:39] <erUSUL> andruha1123: bash programming?
[10:39] <ardchoille> erUSUL: that's probably the best statement I've seen in this channel in a long while
[10:39] <ddarky> andruha1123: Your brain have been warped from using too much Windows. Everything in life have a learning curve. Once you get over that learning curve, everything will be trickling down the river beautifully.
[10:39] <erUSUL> andruha1123: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[10:39] <scriptwarlock> andruha1123, things are diffrent here than windows
[10:39] <sacarlson> amarin: that would be dependent on the subject
[10:40] <amarin> Dns
[10:40] <erUSUL> ardchoille: :)
[10:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: your right on that, no purpose other than i get laid from my desktop.  your going to have to install ccsm and "extra plugins" from the repos
[10:40] <andruha1123> erUSUL, yeah, its just the beginning of class.. but we are getting there
[10:40] <amarin> I need to make ubuntu update opendns with my ip address
[10:40] <sacarlson> amarin: it would require more detail than DNS
[10:40] <coraxx> ddarky: how very delightfulle poetically put :-)
[10:40] <amarin> i am on dynamic ip
[10:40] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: already done, which setting is that? and how to activate it?
[10:40] <andruha1123> ddarky, yeah.. wish i could just download "how to use linux" into my brain...
[10:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> the spinning part?
[10:41] <mk0> hello people. Is it possible to make aliases for "run command (alt-f2)" launcher like aliases for shell to start long commands like e.g. "/home/tabor/.local/bin/opera-ragnarok-labs"?
[10:41] <ddarky> andruha1123: It is no difference than "How to raise my kid right"
[10:41] <sacarlson> amarin: then use something like noip2  to setup a noip.com dns and cname your real site to that if you have one
[10:41] <Bohemian_Cow> Hell to chat from work I am running a SSH tunnel to my home pc and running irssi to chat. Linux: enabling me to slack of at work on a locked down windows PC.
[10:42] <andruha1123> i mean, linux is pretty easy to use if you are using the graphic interface.. but have to work with terminal (i understand that if i learn this, it will work pretty much the same on most distros)
[10:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: enable having atleast 4 desktops screens on your machine.  then go to ccsm and enable the desktop cube, rotate cube, 3d windows and cube reflection and deformation
[10:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: coraxx:   then tweak it to your liking
[10:43] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: oh i already got that. that wasn't my question.
[10:43] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: Each application, you're able to rotate app's window in a circle.
[10:43] <amarin> sacarlson: thanks
[10:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: that's the experimental plugins
[10:43] <Raj007> ahhh
[10:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: how good is your git?
[10:43] <Bohemian_Cow> @ Andru: Thats one of the major points of learning the console yes
[10:44] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: I already have a setting-manager installed for compiz ...however I can't find anything in regards to spinning window ...do you know where it is and what the plugin is called ?
[10:44] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: Using Linux after 10 years. No idea of git. But learning.
[10:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: sudo apt-get install ccsm compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[10:44] <Raj007> ack make that 12 years gosh it's been that long :D
[10:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i've been straight 2 or 3 years without windows now
[10:45] <amarin> how many years experience do you need to work for ubuntu
[10:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> thank god for vista
[10:45] <amarin> of linux
[10:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lol
[10:45] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: already did that ..then what ?
[10:45] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: Lol yeah that was a disaster, i went back to XP back then.
[10:45] <amarin> do you get qualifications for linux
[10:45] <amarin> ubuntu linux
[10:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: enable having atleast 4 desktops screens on your machine.  then go to ccsm and enable the desktop cube, rotate cube, 3d windows and cube reflection and deformation
[10:46] <andruha1123> vista was fun! my new laptop could barely run it...
[10:46] <sacarlson> amarin: look in the freelance sites if you can do the job your hired
[10:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: that's for the spinning world thing
[10:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: i guess what are you trying to get with the compiz part?
[10:46] <Bohemian_Cow> Vista was a heap of troubles for me. Win7 however is running miles better on my gaming machine
[10:46] <ddarky> andruha1123: Wait until Windows 8 come out! Norton Antivirus will be embedded in! Whoot! :P
[10:47] <eddy85> still like ubuntu\
[10:47] <MaslowK> andruha1123: Try windows 98 :P
[10:47] <Bohemian_Cow> Embedded Norton *shivers*
[10:47] <bazhang> !ot
[10:47] <eddy85> 98 sucks
[10:47] <quup> hey, I just booted up but now it's like I have no theme at all, it looks very early 90s everything
[10:47] <MaslowK> ddarky: Seriously?
[10:47] <MaslowK> At the norton bit
[10:47] <Raj007> Bohemian_Cow: I agree, Windows 7 is just so darn good and stable.
[10:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> more cow bell Bohemian_Cow
[10:47] <coraxx> Us3r_Unfriendly: the spinning part ....how do I activate it...maybe its already on ?
[10:47] <andruha1123> ddarky, lol...
[10:47] <bazhang> lets get back to Ubuntu support please
[10:47] <eddy85> windows 7 still uses to many resources
[10:47] <Raj007> I can see why Us3r_Unfriendly's girlfriend won't move away from it :D
[10:47] <ddarky> MaslowK: No. But they ought to.
[10:47] <Bohemian_Cowbell> there
[10:47] <MaslowK> Ew
[10:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: like the spinning terminal or the spinning desktops?
[10:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> coraxx: they're 2 different compiz plugins for that stuff
[10:48] <shomon> what is the best way to have an ssh server on my machine? is it enough to just download openssh-server?
[10:48] <andruha1123> MaslowK, i used to have win98.. it was great!
[10:48] <Raj007> coraxx: CTRL-ALT move mouse left right
[10:48] <bazhang> !ot > andruha1123
[10:48] <ddarky> shomon: "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[10:48] <erUSUL> shomon: yes
[10:48] <Raj007> coraxx: err while holding the left button.
[10:49] <erUSUL> !sshd | shomon
[10:49] <MaslowK> Me too, twas the first os I used extensively @ andruha1123
[10:49] <Us3r_Unfriendly> actually Raj007 and coraxx, i couldn't get my girlfriend hooked with compiz like i do with everyone else, she thinks it's more complicated
[10:49] <sacarlson> shomon: I would just apt-get install ssh  but also change the listen port of the server to something other than 22
[10:49]  * MaslowK wonders if ubuntu 10.10 would play nicer with his wireless than 10.04 ;/
[10:49] <Us3r_Unfriendly> SSH ftw!!
[10:49] <eddy85> whats up ppl
[10:50] <MaslowK> Us3r_Unfriendly: How is compiz complicated? :|
[10:50] <Raj007> Us3r_Unfriendly: well i know many people just hate the CLI, and no matter what bells and whistles (compiz etc) you have, truth is, if you're going to use Linux, you NEED to use CLI (very hard not to) unlike Win7
[10:50] <MaslowK> Last time I used it (back on version 8.something) it required next to no configuration
[10:50] <Bohemian_Cowbell> Compiz is abit to flashy for my tastes too
[10:50] <sacarlson> MaslowK: if it's working don't mess with it
[10:51] <MaslowK> sacarlson: Thats the problem, it isnt working at all.
[10:51] <shomon> thanks sacarlson
[10:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> MaslowK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHg5E3nh6Rs&hd=1
[10:51] <MaslowK> I couldnt manage to get either the linux driver for my chipset or the windows driver with ndiswrapper going
[10:51] <sacarlson> MaslowK: well I do notice that my 10.10 is working better than 10.04 for my ralink not sure why
[10:51] <shomon> thanks erUSUL too!
[10:52] <MaslowK> So, assuming I did everything right, I'm hoping its something they maybe fixed in 10.10
[10:52] <Delerius> Anyone recommend a good USB DVB-S2 card?
[10:52] <MaslowK> I'd try 10.10 myself but A) No blank CDs and B) No USB boot support
[10:52] <sacarlson> MaslowK: I was able to try it in virtualbox by the way
[10:52] <MaslowK> Eh, I imagine the environment would be different doing it that way
[10:52] <MaslowK> Or something
[10:52] <andruha1123> how do i create a simple script in shell? and how do I give it permission? Do I use chmod?
[10:53] <MaslowK> Im just talking out my arse now though. lol.
[10:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: I agree with you completely, hell, now on my desktop i have 2 integrated shells on my background as well
[10:53] <sogeking99> hey guys whats this really annoying 'keyring' thats asking for default password everytime i try to connect to my network?
[10:53] <linux_lover> heloo every one
[10:53] <linux_lover> i need a help
[10:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: yes
[10:53] <iceroot> sogeking99: keyring is managing your other passwords like wifi-access with a master-password
[10:53] <sacarlson> MaslowK: you don't need to install anything with usb or cd with virtualbox I just point to the iso and install it
[10:53] <iceroot> !details | linux_lover
[10:53] <linux_lover> i want to run awindows program using
[10:53] <linux_lover> wine
[10:54] <linux_lover> buti get an executable bit error
[10:54] <MaslowK> linux_lover: Which one?
[10:54] <lahwran> I have 50K files in a directory and would like to rename them sequentially; however, a for i in * does not cut it as bash cannot handle that many arguments. anyone know a solution?
[10:54] <linux_lover> plzz help
[10:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: nano:    #!/binbash           then:             sudo chmod +x ./yourfile
[10:54] <MaslowK> Oh, thats beyond me
[10:54] <amarin> Setting up noip2 (2.1.9-3) ...
[10:54] <iceroot> linux_lover: chmod +x yourwindowsfile.exe
[10:54] <amarin> Auto configuration for Linux client of no-ip.com.
[10:54] <amarin> No hosts are available for this user.
[10:54] <amarin> Go to www.no-ip.com and create some!
[10:54] <amarin> Configuration file can NOT be created.
[10:54] <FloodBot1> amarin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> * #!/bin/bash   whoops
[10:54] <MaslowK> sacarlson: wouldnt the "network device" ubuntu sees be different than what you actually have when using virtualbox?
[10:54] <syrinx> linux_lover: thats not a valid question
[10:54] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, what does "nano:    #!/binbash" do?
[10:54] <linux_lover> thanx icerooot
[10:55] <iceroot> !tab | linux_lover
[10:55] <sacarlson> amarin: you need to setup an account with noip.com and modify the noip2 config file with the new account info
[10:55] <MaslowK> Although I guess I could just do wubi and try it on that, ive heard wubi has issues of some sort though.
[10:55] <sogeking99> oh, can i disable it?
[10:55] <amarin> sacarlson: I have but I got that error message
[10:55] <amarin> it wont create a read copy of the noip config
[10:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: nano is a cli text editor then you'd start a script with:   #!/bin/bash          ...then you would write your script, then make it executable
[10:55] <sxndave> MaslowK: slower disk IO I beleive
[10:55] <MaslowK> sxndave: That wouldnt bother me
[10:56] <MaslowK> Just wouldnt want to install it then have it be the reason my wireless doesnt work
[10:56] <sxndave> MaslowK: though I usually use vmware player under windows and perfromance is generally pretty good.
[10:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: but i think you should jump off the deep end and try vim or emacs...it'll pay off in the long run
[10:56]  * MaslowK shrugs
[10:56] <MaslowK> Im poor
[10:56] <sacarlson> MaslowK: no you give virtualbox permision to access the real hardware device in my case a usb wifi device
[10:56] <sxndave> MaslowK: its free ;)
[10:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> MaslowK: i have a girlfriend and i too am poor
[10:56] <MaslowK> vmware is?
[10:56] <MaslowK> lol Us3r_Unfriendly
[10:56] <MaslowK> That tends to happen
[10:56] <sxndave> MaslowK: 'vmware player' is
[10:56] <MaslowK> Hm
[10:57] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, thanks, thats what was recommended which is better vim or emacs?
[10:57] <gaelfx> !vmware | MaslowK
[10:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: seriously that question is like asking what god you love more
[10:57] <MaslowK> Think I'll just try wubi and see what happens.
[10:57] <Raj007> hahaha
[10:57] <sxndave> good poin gaelfx
[10:57] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, lol ok.. makes sense
[10:57] <MaslowK> Now to make space, I have like, 400mb available atm :P
[10:57] <sy`> andruha1123: VIM for sysadmin, Emacs for development. But Us3r_Unfriendly is right, hard question to answer.
[10:57] <llutz> andruha1123: emacs is fine, it just lacks a good editor :)
[10:57] <sxndave> I will have to learn my way rounf that bot sometime
[10:58] <MaslowK> And choose between KDE and gnome
[10:58] <sxndave> round*
[10:58] <gaelfx> sxndave: I can't really take credit for it though
[10:58] <sogeking99> can i diablwe keyring
[10:58] <sogeking99> disable*
[10:58] <Raj007> andruha1123: stick with nano while you're still learning.
[10:58] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: both are great text editors that use commands and such
[10:58] <Raj007> andruha1123: it's easier for beginners.
[10:58] <Us3r_Unfriendly> well if your learning you should just use gedit
[10:58] <andruha1123> Raj007, i think i will do that until i know what im doing...
[10:58] <gaelfx> MaslowK: you could just use a livecd/usb, the try-it-before-you-buy it method
[10:59] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, gotcha
[10:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vim and emacs is like going to heaven and kissing god
[10:59] <MaslowK> That would mean either getting a blank disc or waiting for one to come in the mail =/
[10:59] <linux_lover> ntfs volume are not mounting in ubuntu
[10:59] <gaelfx> I think if you plan on learning to use something, it's best to use the actual thing, not something easier
[10:59] <MaslowK> Unfortunately I'm impatient
[10:59] <linux_lover> plz help
[10:59] <linux_lover> ntfs volume are not mounting in ubuntu
[10:59] <gaelfx> MaslowK: you can make a liveusb as well
[11:00] <linux_lover> plz help ntfs volume are not mounting in ubuntu
[11:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nano is like calling a ex girlfriend and hanging out
[11:00] <greppy> from a user standpoint, the default keybindings for nano will translate to emacs easier than going to (n)vi(m)
[11:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> a bad ex
[11:00] <gaelfx> !unetbootin | MaslowK
[11:00] <MaslowK> gaelfx: This mobo is lame, doesnt support booting from USB
[11:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> greppy: true
[11:00] <MaslowK> Think its from somewhere around um
[11:00] <MaslowK> 2002?
[11:00] <sy`> If you are a ninja, use Vim. If you are a pirate, use Emacs.
[11:00] <sy`> Easy
[11:00] <gaelfx> MaslowK: is it what, ten years old? or phoenix bios?
[11:00] <MaslowK> Ive already looked into it.
[11:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> but you should just use gedit.........way easier
[11:00] <sxndave> MaslowK: someone was in here yesterday who gets around that by using a bootmanager on cd. can't remember what it was called but there muyst be a few around
[11:00] <linux_lover> iceroot plzz help bro
[11:00] <MaslowK> And yeah, phoenix bios
[11:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> it's like using notepad in windows
[11:01] <Raj007> sy`: what if i'm a ninja pirate?
[11:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Raj007: no way, you too?
[11:01] <MaslowK> I'm just gonna try wubi and see what happens me thinks
[11:01] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, dude, notepad is the best.. i use it for everything :D
[11:01] <sy`> Raj007: Then use Emacs with viper-mode
[11:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: and i use vim
[11:01] <linux_lover> cannot mount ntfs volume on ubuntu
[11:01] <andruha1123> well, i use notepad++...
[11:01] <MaslowK> Us3r_Unfriendly: I always thought nano was easy enough to use
[11:01] <Raj007> sy`: ack !
[11:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> but isn't gedit even easier, especially if your coming from windows?
[11:02] <MaslowK> Maybe
[11:02] <gaelfx> nah, if you really wanna confuse people about what you're writing, you should right binary files that tell the cpu tp right a certain character or string to a particular address in memory
[11:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> there's no command prompt text editor that i ever used in windows
[11:02] <Raj007> yeah it is.
[11:02] <gaelfx> *write
[11:02] <MaslowK> I still prefer nano, if only because it keeps the text editing in the same window that I'm browsing to said files in the first place from
[11:02]  * gaelfx used hookt-awn-fawnics
[11:02] <linux_lover> plzz someone helpppp
[11:02] <MaslowK> I guess if you're really computer inept
[11:03] <greppy> Us3r_Unfriendly: <ot>I've written HTML in dos edit :) on an 8088 :) </ot>
[11:03] <MaslowK> But in that case you shouldnt be using linux at all
[11:03] <MaslowK> imo ymmv
[11:03] <linux_lover> maslowk plz help
[11:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> greppy: can you run commands outside of emacs?
[11:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ...from inside emacs?
[11:03] <MaslowK> linux_lover: I don't know what the problem is, my ntfs partitions have always mounted manually upon installation
[11:03] <MaslowK> Er
[11:03] <MaslowK> Automatically
[11:03] <sy`> If you want to be hardcore, use Emacs. If you want to just set up a config and just get straight to developing, then Vim.
[11:04] <greppy> Us3r_Unfriendly: yes.  you can even have a shell in a buffer, or a web browser, or an IRC client.  I've even used vi inside a shell running in an emacs buffer.
[11:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nice
[11:04] <sy`> <--- Using irc client inside Emacs right now.
[11:04] <MaslowK> My 'nix experience is limited to compiling software from source and using live cd's to access protected windows files
[11:04] <MaslowK> lol
[11:04] <scriptwarlock> linux_lover, whats the problem?
[11:05] <shomon> I've never touched the firewall on this computer since installing 10.04. to open an ssh port, do I jsut run "allow 22"?
[11:05] <dr0id> is mkdir the best way to create a directory ? :)
[11:05] <andruha1123> would this be a SIMPLE script? echo "Hello $USER" ( i just need anything that would run and print something out
[11:05] <shomon> I mean with ufw of course
[11:05] <navn> is there any ubuntu version with ltsp
[11:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: yes
[11:06] <navn> i want ubuntu cd with ltsp
[11:06] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, does it have to have a certain extension to run? like a .sh or something?
[11:06] <shomon> andruha1123: did you give it executable permissions?
[11:06] <sy`> shomon: I think sudo ufw allow 22
[11:06] <shomon> thanks sy`
[11:06] <navn> ubuntu with ltsp  cd i want
[11:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: well echo only displays text and your variable user is the user your logged in as.  if you also want to run commands you'll need to write more to your script.  usually people write it to a .sh file
[11:07] <shomon> so like that it will automagically just keep the port open each reboot?
[11:07] <andruha1123> shomon, would I do this: chmod 5 filename?
[11:07] <david__> I have a question about conky, anyone familiar?
[11:07] <shomon> if it's for yoru own use chmod 777 is fine
[11:07] <MaslowK> "Of course, many will feel that when average users start using their (kde) desktop environment they will no longer be “cool,”" <--- I dont get people like this =/
[11:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: have you checked out "Metalx1000" on youtube.  He's top notch on your trying to do
[11:08] <sy`> shomon: It should. Check "man ufw" for reference.
[11:08] <Raj007> I'm just Learning crap by lurking here and reading. :)
[11:08] <amarin> what is going on here: amarin@ubuntu:~$ noip2 -S
[11:08] <amarin> Can't locate configuration file /var/lib/noip2/noip2.conf. (Try -c). Ending!
[11:08] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, thanks, but im not trying to write anything really, just learning how to do simple stuff in terminal and stuff
[11:08] <amarin> but I have configured it?
[11:08] <sy`> Raj007: Emacs user?
[11:08] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, thanks, will check him out!
[11:08] <esing> hi
[11:08] <amarin> hi
[11:08] <sy`> hi
[11:08] <david__> esing, hi
[11:08] <esing> how can I make hidden files/folders in my home folder all the time not visible_
[11:08] <Raj007> sy`: used to but i haven't touched for 12+ years.
[11:08] <esing> hi daiv__
[11:09] <shomon> thanks again sy`
[11:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: and that's why i recomend watching him.  a ton of terminal videos on good to know stuff...including vim :p
[11:09] <amarin> noip2
[11:09] <amarin> problem
[11:09] <sy`> shomon: np :)
[11:09] <dr0id> ls won't show all the hidden files, is there some way to show the hidden files with ls and without using --all ? :P
[11:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: ls -A
[11:09] <amarin> noip2==problem amarin@ubuntu:~$ noip2 -S
[11:09] <amarin> Can't locate configuration file /var/lib/noip2/noip2.conf. (Try -c). Ending!
[11:09] <david__> Raj007, put a "." as the first char in the filename/folder name
[11:09] <dr0id> ohh, it's ok :P
[11:09] <PeterNL> or ls -a
[11:09] <andruha1123> wow 814 vids!
[11:09] <AbhijiT_> ls -all dr0id
[11:09] <sy`> Raj007: Oh, I was going to provide you a Lispish link so you can stop lurking. lol
[11:09] <sacarlson> amarin: did you read the man noip2?  did you try sudo noip2 -C
[11:09] <PeterNL> or ls .*
[11:09] <MaslowK> esing: If you're trying to do that to keep someone else who uses the computer from seeing your stuff
[11:09] <MaslowK> Just create a separate user account for them
[11:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> PeterNL: ls -a includes . ..
[11:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ls -A doesn't
[11:10] <PeterNL> Us3r_Unfriendly: yep
[11:10] <Raj007> sy`: lol, no haven't touched Linux since 1999.
[11:10] <Raj007> or any *nix
[11:10] <sy`> Raj007: ouch lol
[11:10] <esing> ls -A does the opposite .
[11:10] <LadKiwi> Hi
[11:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> so list your current directory and your the parent directory
[11:10] <sy`> LadKiwi: hi
[11:10] <esing> Maslowk No I do this for me , because it troules
[11:11] <MaslowK> It what?
[11:11] <esing> Maslowk troubles me to find my folder because of the many hidden files
[11:11] <esing> Maslowk I only want to see my download folder desktop etc
[11:11] <MaslowK> Hm.
[11:11] <LadKiwi> I would like to run a command on a distant computer. The execution time is long I would like the calculation continue after I closed my connection
[11:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: what's the folder called?
[11:11] <MaslowK> oic
[11:11] <LadKiwi> how can I do ?
[11:11] <esing> Home
[11:11] <PeterNL> LadKiwi: use screen
[11:11] <esing> "Home"
[11:11] <Raj007> sy`: well you can help me since i'm laid off now, good link to re-learn emacs (i'm not really a  n00blet)
[11:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: like ~/    ?
[11:11] <PeterNL> !screen
[11:11] <esing> home/cor/(
[11:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: or another directory you created called home?
[11:11] <esing> home/user/
[11:12] <amarin> noip2 ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[11:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cd ~/ && ls -a
[11:12] <esing> in that folder I see all hidden files/folder
[11:12] <amarin> sacarlson: Yes i've used noip2 -C three times now
[11:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: from nautilus you see all the hidden folders?
[11:12] <esing> now it worked
[11:12] <esing> thx
[11:12] <PeterNL> My wifi is not working. I have a rt2571WF which uses the rt73usb driver. When I do iwlist wlan0 scan it says this: "Failed to read scan data : resource temporarily unavailable" and dmesg had a lot of these: http://pastebin.com/7fYDSUnr. I do have the firmware installed. The same thing happens on two different squeeze installs.
[11:12] <sacarlson> LadKiwi: you can ssh in and use yourcommand &  so it runs in the background
[11:12] <Da|Mummy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf4xBRQmvEo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
[11:12] <Raj007> esing: In the folder window, go to menu EDIT-> Preferences and check "Show hidden files"
[11:12] <amarin> sacarlson: no ip2 -C says that it has done everything correctly then it doesnt work
[11:13] <sacarlson> amarin: I don't see sudo in that line
[11:13] <amarin> i used sudo
[11:13] <amarin> it prints this
[11:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: lol i don't know exactly how you found the fix but okay good
[11:13] <esing> ^^
[11:13] <esing> thanks buddy
[11:13] <sacarlson> amarin: I assume you failed to create an account did you verify your account at noip.com is active?
[11:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: on what part?  I'm confused
[11:14] <esing> ls -a worked
[11:14] <amarin> sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/571653/
[11:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> oh
[11:15] <sacarlson> amarin: sounds good to me
[11:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> esing: ls:  will show you unhidden folders     ls -a:   will show you everything.     ls -Ralh:  is like using tree
[11:15] <sy`> Raj007: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/index.html --  http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html -- http://www.psg.com/~dlamkins/sl/contents.html -- http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/ss-toc2.html -- http://clojure.org --
[11:15] <sacarlson> amarin: so does the file exist at /var/??
[11:15] <amarin> sarcarlson: its ok i fixed it. Thanks though
[11:15] <Raj007> sy`: woah thanks, lemme bookmark them.
[11:15] <Hans_Henrik> i wish to put up a SOCKS5 proxy, and make it run on port 21; how can i do that?
[11:15] <amarin> sacarlson: So how do i make this update opendns, is that in opendns webpage?
[11:16] <sy`> Raj007: I have maybe 500+ bookmarks lol. So I quickly grabbed some.
[11:16] <sacarlson> amarin: opendns is just a world dns so your noip.com site will be seen there also
[11:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> looks like your going to the darkside with emacs lol
[11:16] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: lol
[11:16] <amarin> sacarlson: so opendns is automatic with noip.com site?
[11:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> maybe one day i too might permently go to emacs...but i'm having too much fun with vim
[11:17] <sacarlson> amarin: yes noip.com is also a world site they all link together
[11:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> how about joe's editor?  I haven't used that before
[11:18] <Raj007> sy`: i didn't even know of clojure until now.
[11:18] <sy`> Raj007: It's built off the Java jvm. :)
[11:18] <amarin> sacarlson: Thats really trippy got anything i can read up on that
[11:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> tonight was probably the first time no one has told me to get on subject in here
[11:18] <sy`> Raj007: You can use vim for it of course but it will obviously benefit more in an emacs environment.
[11:19] <sacarlson> amarin: if you have a site the you own dns site you pay for you can also link that to your noip.com with cname through the registra dns server
[11:19] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: never too late >.<
[11:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sy`: i do use both, i just use vim all the time
[11:20] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: I just prefer the VIM key bindings. Much faster imho.
[11:20] <sacarlson> amarin: I'm not sure what you want to know about dns,  if you want details on how you can become your own dns server you might research bind9
[11:20] <sy`> for cursor movement
[11:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sy`: it did look cool when the kid in "The Social Network" movie was using emacs
[11:20] <amarin> sacarlson: How do i make noip2 update all the time. It says it only updates my ip for 60 days
[11:20] <amarin> sacarlson: I just wish for opendns to block porn
[11:20] <andruha1123> how do i get help on commands in terminal?  what do i type after the command? is it something like "help" or "h"?
[11:21] <sy`> Us3r_Unfriendly: lol
[11:21] <erUSUL> andruha1123: "man command"
[11:21] <amarin> sacarlson: but i have a dynamic ip, but im all good now it says its working and you said that they are connected on the internetz
[11:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> andruha1123: man "command name"  or  "command" --help
[11:21] <nibbler> andruha1123, man command. or just tab-tab to get list of available commands
[11:21] <sacarlson> amarin: I think that's 60 days of no activity as long as you use it then it will stay
[11:21] <erUSUL> andruha1123: althought many progrmans may have a -h or --help option too
[11:21] <andruha1123> thanks
[11:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> boom helped
[11:21] <sy`> Raj007: You can use Clojure on Google App Engine also. It's well supported by Ubuntu.
[11:21] <andruha1123> haha, this is so much better than google :D
[11:22] <sy`> So you can create a test application for free if you wanted to.
[11:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> you had like 20 guys hit you with the same answer, need help with taxes?
[11:22] <amarin> sacarlson: cool its just funny so how does opendns and no-ip work together wouldn't open dns have to authenticate the no-ip request for them to pass my ip address along to opendns?
[11:23] <erUSUL> andruha1123: for a start see the man of  man « man man » :)
[11:23] <amarin> sacarlson: and how does opendns know that my ip is at no-ip
[11:23] <andruha1123> haha manual for a manual...
[11:23] <Raj007> sy`: ahh i see.
[11:23] <sacarlson> amarin:  same way opendns knows where google.com is ,  it's just a big linked data base
[11:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i like "man" because of the key bindings, much like "less" or like vim key bindings
[11:24] <amarin> sacarlson: can you link me to something to read about on that topic. im not sure what to google but im interested.
[11:24] <amarin> sacarlson: thanks for that, you've been really helpful i've been trying to get this for days.
[11:24] <sacarlson> amarin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
[11:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Well i had fun guys, but time for me to hit the hay
[11:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> see you guys later
[11:25] <erUSUL> Us3r_Unfriendly: well that's because you are using less to view the pages...
[11:25] <Raj007> alright good night Us3r_Unfriendly
[11:25] <andruha1123> Us3r_Unfriendly, thanks for helping me! and have a good night :)
[11:25] <Raj007> lol good morning from where i'm from :) 3:30 AM
[11:26] <birdinatux> west coast
[11:26] <sy`> Raj007: Also, since Lisp loves math.. here you go --> http://www.khanacademy.org/
[11:26] <andruha1123> well.. its still dark outside.. so its night to me :P
[11:26] <sy`> 5:26am here :)
[11:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> erUSUL: less -i /etc/sudoers    is "like" how the man pages work with it's key bindings, check it out
[11:26] <Raj007> no left coast !
[11:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> later
[11:26] <andruha1123> sy we are in the same timzone..
[11:26] <sy`> andruha1123: Howdy partner! Yehaw!
[11:26] <birdinatux> lol
[11:27] <andruha1123> lol im in chicago!... no cowboys here...
[11:27] <sy`> lol
[11:27] <erUSUL> Us3r_Unfriendly: man uses less ( or any pager you tell it ) to display the pages. is not "man uses the same keybindings as less" is "man uses less"
[11:27] <birdinatux> everytime i tell someone I'm from texas they say "howdy"
[11:27] <birdinatux> lmao
[11:27] <sogeking99> hey guys, how can i mount an iso?
[11:27] <sy`> ::spits tobacoo:: Let's round up these cattle and fix their Ubuntu problems yall!
[11:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> tu-chey erUSUL
[11:28] <birdinatux> lmao
[11:28] <sy`> birdinatux: ::tips hat::
[11:28] <andruha1123> sy lmao...
[11:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> erUSUL: much of what i was trying to say
[11:28] <erUSUL> :)
[11:28] <sy`> Funny thing, I've problem seen more Gnus than I have seen cows in the last... 3 years?
[11:28] <sy`> lol
[11:28] <andruha1123> you must have a good router to have internet in the middle of the field!
[11:28] <sy`> probably*
[11:28] <sy`> wow spell check
[11:29] <birdinatux> Lmao, if only we could eat the guns? haha
[11:29] <sy`> andruha1123: Yeah, I have my router attached to a cow.
[11:29] <paulina>  my name is paulin
[11:29] <sy`> hello paulin
[11:29] <Raj007> <=- is from SFO . Goooo Giants ! can't wait for the season to start.
[11:29] <sy`> How may the Ubuntu Cowboys assist you?
[11:29] <paulina> hello is whats you name
[11:29] <vish> !ot
[11:30] <andruha1123> sy, powered by cow gas? Thats kinda like recycling!
[11:30] <andruha1123> sorry ubottu
[11:30] <Cain>  crlcan81
[11:30] <crlcan81> dang it
[11:30] <birdinatux> scolded :( lol
[11:30] <crlcan81> hate when it does that
[11:30] <sy`> Hey, does ubuntu have a gui application for kickstart?
[11:31] <Raj007> question - So, Ubuntu is now "The" mainstream distro (for regular home users not business)?
[11:31] <MaslowK> Raj007: As far as I can tell.
[11:31] <sy`> Raj007: From what I am seeing, they are trying to become more enterprise now also.
[11:31] <MaslowK> Every source I've checked cites ubuntu as THE distro for home users, while several years back it was more "up in the air"
[11:31] <drt28424> Hello, I have some music files ending in .mp3 that I want to burn to an audio cd, but brasero says the file types are not supported
[11:31] <sogeking99> what program can i get to mount iso?
[11:32] <drt28424> sy`: system-config-kickstart  ?
[11:32] <MaslowK> More between ubuntu, mandriva and fedora iirc
[11:32] <MaslowK> Fedora is nice too
[11:32] <sy`> drt28424: It looked like a cheap Fedora clone. >.<
[11:32] <birdinatux> On your Ubuntu desktop machine, install the package system-config-kickstart using
[11:32] <birdinatux> your favourite tool. You will then find the tool in Applications->System Tools->Kickstart.
[11:32] <MaslowK> drt28424: Install restricted drivers I imagine
[11:32] <erUSUL> !codecs | drt28424
[11:32] <drt28424> file says this :  Audio file with ID3 version 2.4.0, contains: MPEG ADTS, layer III, v2,   8 kbps, 22.05 kHz, JntStereo
[11:32] <paulina> is my name is paulina ok is no inglihs am spain
[11:32] <paulina> ok
[11:32] <paulina> hello
[11:32] <MaslowK> Or that.
[11:32] <paulina> hola
[11:32] <paulina> hola hay alguien ¿?
[11:32] <FloodBot1> paulina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <paulina> hello
[11:32] <erUSUL> drt28424: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:33] <MaslowK> df.
[11:33] <drt28424> erUSUL: ok, trying that now..
[11:33] <MaslowK> paulina: Im sure its fine, a name is just a label :)
[11:33] <MaslowK> Most of us do speak english though
[11:33] <vish> !es > paulina
[11:34] <Raj007> A little off-topic, what should be my next distro after i've "re-learned" Linux? I installed this so it would be easier for me to learn.
[11:34] <sogeking99> anyone?
[11:34] <Raj007> well re-learned as in, gained a little proficiency
[11:34] <tony_> I speak Chinese
[11:34] <Raj007> or Ubuntu is "the one"
[11:34] <MaslowK> sogeking99: Sec
[11:34] <vish> sogeking99: you should be able to right click and mount the iso
[11:34] <MaslowK> Er, okay
[11:34] <Bohemian_Cow> Raj007 try another of the major distros like CentOS
[11:34] <MaslowK> I dont remember that being an option by default @ vish
[11:34] <sy`> Raj007: They are all pretty much the same, I just think it depends on what you plan on using it for or the philosophies behind the distro.
[11:34] <andruha1123> i speak Ukrainian :O
[11:34] <redbox> Raj007: You decide. Maybe Gentoo? That'll throw you right back to Ubuntu.
[11:35] <MaslowK> Though last time I used ubuntu was a while ago
[11:35] <vish> sogeking99: its "archive mounter"
[11:35] <Bohemian_Cow> CentOS is also good if you ever end up having to use RHEL
[11:35] <vish> MaslowK: iirc, archive mounter is installed by default
[11:35] <MaslowK> Yeah, I mean available through a context menu
[11:35] <MaslowK> I could be wrong tho
[11:35] <sy`> Raj007: Arch, Fedora, or RHEL are the only ones I recommend.
[11:35] <Raj007> Mostly dev work only. c/c++/html/Java
[11:35] <MaslowK> redbox: Should've said DSL :P
[11:35] <vish> MaslowK: once it is installed you have it in the context menu
[11:36] <MaslowK> Hm
[11:36] <birdinatux> sogeking99: sudo apt-get install gmountiso
[11:36] <vish> MaslowK: "Open with Archive mounter" option
[11:36] <Raj007> Noone recommended Debian :) heh
[11:36] <sogeking99> thanks
[11:36] <sy`> Raj007: lol
[11:36] <Raj007> But yeah i did hear about Arch, i got to take a look into it :)
[11:37] <sy`> Raj007: Arch is more "hardcore" by default.
[11:37] <Bohemian_Cow> Arch is great on older machines
[11:37] <Raj007> that's what i want :)
[11:37] <Bohemian_Cow> its very lightweight
[11:37] <redbox> !iso | sogeking99
[11:37] <sy`> Raj007: I agree with Bohemian_Cow but it's good on newer systems also.
[11:37] <Raj007> No harm in VM'ing it and trying Fedora/Arch.
[11:38] <sogeking99> what mount point?
[11:38] <Raj007> ofcourse in a month or so :)
[11:38] <vish> sogeking99: when you right click on the iso, do you have the option  "Open with Archive mounter"  ?
[11:38] <MaslowK> sogeking99: Wherever you want basically.
[11:38] <booze2go> i encountered a weird phenomenon - i've installed ubuntu 10.10 via wubi and everthing was fast and great. now i gave ubuntu one of my harddrives and installed it from scratch. now the thing is it's not as responsive as the wubi version. any idea why?
[11:38] <Bohemian_Cow> sogeking: mount point is the folder where you wish to mount the iso image ie /mnt/isoimage
[11:38] <sacarlson> Raj007: if your a c++ programer you might like gento http://www.gentoo.org/
[11:39] <MaslowK> I used to do something like /media/iso1
[11:39] <redbox> sogeking99: You pick. We usually create an empty directory in "/media/Wolf" or such then mount it from there.
[11:39] <sogeking99> ok thanks
[11:39] <sogeking99> i tried right click mount, nothing seemed to happen
[11:40] <drt28424> !codecs > drt28424   thanks erUSUL
[11:41] <Raj007> sacarlson: will look into that too.
[11:41] <erUSUL> drt28424: no problem
[11:41] <vish> sogeking99: the iso will get mounted and you will be able to browse the iso just like any other folder,
[11:41] <sy`> Raj007: I used Arch for 2 years. I love it just I am a little tired of configuring and want to focus more on lisp. Ubuntu is good for the lazy folks. lol
[11:41] <sogeking99> where will it be mounted? never asked me
[11:41] <vish> sogeking99: do you see the new entry on the left pane , with the iso name ?
[11:41] <Raj007> Now i have a genuine question - I have a quad core and i'm a cpu cycle freak. I like to monitor my CPU/Ethernet all the time. What is a good widget application that will show me all four core performances like the one's Windows 7 have?
[11:42] <Raj007> I want to be able to monitor each core individually.
[11:42] <many_questions> Hi...
[11:42] <sy`> Raj007: I assume that would already be in the system monitor in ubuntu.
[11:42] <sy`> or top...
[11:42] <sogeking99> no
[11:43] <sy`> ?
[11:43] <vish> sogeking99: it wont ask where, it will just mount it.. no need to specify where, when you are using the right-click option
[11:43] <Raj007> sy`: it just shows avg cpu use, not each core. I was thinking graphical. htop = good but it's on CLI
[11:43] <Raj007> like widgets on the desktop
[11:43] <sy`> hmm
[11:43] <sogeking99> and it should then appear in places?
[11:43] <Raj007> yeah like Windows 7
[11:43] <Raj007> gadgets even
[11:43] <Raj007> :D
[11:44] <andruha1123> stupid question.. why doesn't a file run when i type its name in the terminal (its there, i checked with ls)
[11:44] <vish> sogeking99: yea, it will appear in places
[11:44] <Raj007> andruha1123: type ./filename
[11:44] <wicky> wow, a lot of nicks in here. any one had a problem in 10.10 where images set as desktop background get oriented incorrectly?
[11:44] <andruha1123> Raj007, wow.. must be late that i forgot that
[11:44] <vish> sogeking99: below the "Network"
[11:44] <many_questions> I have a ubuntu CD (10.04) that was modified to use a especial (Local) repository... I can't install using this CD right now... but I would like to know what repository(s) is set on it...
[11:45] <sacarlson> Raj007: it's probly not what you want but to monitor my network I use cacti ,  cacti will also monitor mem usage and a few other things on my local system but I also use it to monitor remote system usage
[11:45] <Raj007> sacarlson: any recommendation is good, let me look into it.
[11:45] <sogeking99> strange, not there
[11:46] <sy`> >.<
[11:47] <Raj007> sacarlson: you were right, that's not what i need but a very useful tool indeed for remote system monitoring.
[11:47] <sacarlson> Raj007: ya it's graphics are cool you can zoom in and out from 5 minits to 2 years ago
[11:47] <andruha1123> why does it tell me that permission is denied when I did this: "chmod 744 filename"
[11:48] <Raj007> lol that's nice.
[11:48] <vish> sogeking99: what option did you select from right click menu?
[11:48] <redbox> sacarlson: How do you use it? :)
[11:48] <sogeking99> open with archive mounter
[11:48] <redbox> sacarlson: Nevermind. Found a wiki.
[11:48] <sacarlson> Raj007: I use it to monitor network bandwidth at different points on my net so I can tell what is using what bandwidth and how long something didn't work
[11:49] <vish> sogeking99: then look in PLaces > "Computer"
[11:49] <sacarlson> redbox:  opps not sure what you wanted
[11:50] <vish> sogeking99: if it does not appear even there, then either the iso might be broken or something else is wrong with that iso
[11:50] <Raj007> andruha1123: you don't have permission to change that file. you're not the owner/group of that file. Try sudo the command?
[11:50] <sogeking99> oh right
[11:50] <andruha1123> Raj007, i did.. and i just created that file
[11:50] <vish> sogeking99: found it ?
[11:51] <sogeking99> no, not there
[11:52] <Raj007> andruha1123: well something with the permission is wrong on that file. Just sudo chmod
[11:52] <vish> sogeking99: hmm, then the iso might be broken..
[11:52] <andruha1123> Raj007, here is what I typed: sudo chmod 744 testfile
[11:53] <many_questions> how could I change the "apt" repository on the Ubuntu instalation CD?
[11:53] <sogeking99> its my diablo iso, i used it on windows like
[11:53] <Raj007> andruha1123: and doesn't work?
[11:53] <andruha1123> then when i type ./testfile it tell me that permission is denied
[11:53] <andruha1123> Raj007, nothing happens when i hit enter.. i dunno
[11:53] <Raj007> andruha1123, ls -al filename?
[11:54] <andruha1123> cannot acces filename error comes up
[11:54] <sogeking99> oh isom worked
[11:54] <sogeking99> so my archive mounter is broken?
[11:54] <Raj007> andruha1123: no replace filename with your file name
[11:54] <sacarlson> many_questions: this sounds like a tool that might help you http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[11:55] <sy`> hmmm
[11:55] <sy`> once I figure out how to use this kickstart, all will be good
[11:55] <andruha1123> Raj007, lol sorry, i thought you type 'testfile' which is the actual filename. I get rwxrwx 1
[11:57] <Raj007> andruha1123: sorry need to go, asleep @ keyboard :)
[11:57] <Raj007> g'night all.
[11:57] <andruha1123> night
[11:59] <pfifo> good morning
[12:00] <MaslowK> Sup dawg.
[12:00] <Satauros> hi ya'll, quick question, how do I verify that my ubuntu server is correctly sync'ing with my time server, using ntpd?
[12:00] <pfifo> not me, good thing for coffee
[12:00] <MaslowK> cheater00: CHEATERS GO TO HELL
[12:00] <MaslowK> xD
[12:01] <pfifo> Satauros, check and see if it has a log
[12:01] <MaslowK> pfifo: Better than booze at 4am eh?
[12:01] <MaslowK> lol
[12:01] <dr0id> how do you get the current working dir ?
[12:01] <pfifo> dr0id, pwd
[12:01] <dr0id> lol
[12:02] <pfifo> its 7am here MaslowK
[12:02] <dr0id> it's 26pm here
[12:02] <Satauros> pfifo, this log, should it be in /var/log/ntpstats ?
[12:02] <MaslowK> pfifo: Exactly :P
[12:03] <pfifo> Satauros, Im not sure if it makes a log, but if it does it will be in /var/log... it may also log to syslogd
[12:03] <many_questions> sacarlson: I take a look at uck... and its pretty cool... but not what im looking for... I whants to know where in a cd (iso) of ubuntu I can find the list of repository.... (like the source.list)...
[12:03] <sogeking99> ah man it not worked, asked for install disk but thats what i mounted
[12:03] <sacarlson> Satauros: well for one you could verify that ntpd is running with ps -A  | grep ntpd
[12:04] <Pumpkin-> Satauros: You want some output from ntpq. From memory it is ntpq -pn, but I'm not 100% sure.
[12:04] <Satauros> it is running :)
[12:04] <MaslowK> sogeking99: When installing it or when trying to play the game after installation?
[12:04] <Satauros> ntpd -q gives me some results at least
[12:04] <sogeking99> when install
[12:04] <sogeking99> i right clicked setup and chose 'open with wine program loader'
[12:05] <Satauros> if that last mentioned command provides output, should I assume that the time sync'ing works properly?
[12:05] <Michael> Hello, is anyone familiar with tar (the partition backup and restoration program) ?
[12:05] <jrib> Guest952: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:05] <sacarlson> many_questions: I guess it's not in it's standard location on a livecd at /etc/apt/source.list
[12:07] <MaslowK> sogeking99: Not sure then, thats unusual :|
[12:07] <MaslowK> Could just be that game, or maybe the version of the installer pressed to that particular disc
[12:08] <MaslowK> It getting to the point where it specifically asks for a particular disc gets me.
[12:08] <Satauros> thx for the help, i'll check it out :)
[12:08] <sogeking99> its an iso i made from my original disk,
[12:08] <MaslowK> Well
[12:09] <MaslowK> I guess I could only really suggest acquiring a different copy of the game (be creative) and trying that.
[12:09] <p896gbm> is there a generic gamedev channel somewhere? some place people hang out who are making games?
[12:09] <sogeking99> ok thanks
[12:09] <MaslowK> Unless its a copy protection issue, in which case maybe try ripping the disc with a different app?
[12:10] <MaslowK> I usually use dvddecryptor in windows.
[12:11] <abhinav_singh> Can I install 64 bit Ubuntu 10.10 on my 32 bit machine?
[12:11] <jrib> abhinav_singh: no...
[12:11] <SixtyFold> hence 64 bit
[12:11] <abhinav_singh> well how to find weather my processor is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[12:12] <abhinav_singh> *wether
[12:12] <griphown> Opa, alguém ai conseguiu usar compiz ou o unity 3d com uma [SiS] 771/671 ?
[12:12] <sogeking99> didn't think it would be an issue with such an old game
[12:12] <pfifo> well technically you could put the files on your hard drive, but none of the programs would run
[12:12] <LjL> !pt | griphown
[12:13] <griphown> Hi, anyone know if i can use compiz or unity 3d with [SiS] 771/671 ?
[12:13] <bazhang> griphown, ask in #compiz , my recollection is that you cannot
[12:14] <jrib> abhinav_singh: you can see if the "lm" flag is in /proc/cpuinfo
[12:14] <MaslowK> sogeking99: Depends on what you're using to rip the disc I imagine
[12:14] <sogeking99> yeah
[12:15] <abhinav_singh> yes jrib
[12:15] <jrib> abhinav_singh: if it is, then you have a 64bit capable cpu
[12:15] <abhinav_singh> okay jrib
[12:15] <MaslowK> I still havent tried diablo 1/2, the whole point-and-click control deal bothers me
[12:16] <sogeking99> great for lan
[12:16] <karma_police> i am re-installing ubuntu but want to keep my home folder... i remember setting it up as a separate partition when i first installed it.. how do i proceed with the installer in order to keep it?
[12:16] <jrib> karma_police: setup /home as a separate partition, point it to your existing partition, check "do not format"
[12:16] <bazhang> !home | karma_police
[12:17] <MaslowK> Or
[12:17] <MaslowK> Ctrl+X then CTRL+V
[12:17] <MaslowK> :|
[12:18] <karma_police> do ok.. thats what i was wondering... i have to set it as home.. as long as i do not format it then al my data from the previous install will be there?
[12:18] <MaslowK> karma_police: Honestly I would just cut the directories/files in your Home folder to a secure location on a different partition, then copy them to the new Home directory after installing.
[12:18] <MaslowK> Seems easy enough.
[12:19] <MaslowK> Or at least, in Windows it is. ;/
[12:19] <Odaym> what is a good python IDE? other than having access to the python shell on bash
[12:20] <jrib> karma_police: you should always have backups of course, but what I described will work
[12:20] <karma_police> i have it all backed up on a 2 tb hdd.. i was just experimenting.. i always come here before i do anything too drastic
[12:21] <jrib> Odaym: http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
[12:22] <Odaym> hi jrib
[12:22] <Odaym> let me rephrase
[12:23] <Odaym> what is a good python IDE that you know of?
[12:23] <jrib> Odaym: I use vim.  Use what works for you.  Try the ones on that list
[12:23] <Odaym> vim does that?
[12:23] <Odaym> haha
[12:23] <Odaym> crazy
[12:29] <ymonir> hello , how to know if some one is hacking my unbunt
[12:29] <iceroot> ymonir: by understanding how the systems works and how to read logfiles and so on
[12:31] <ymonir> iceroot - is there possibility that some one can see my desktop Via Network if he is using XP or Apple  and hack my Ubuntu ?
[12:31] <shutz> ymonir: that's possible...
[12:31] <ymonir> Shutz : can you tell me how to avoid it -step by step ?
[12:31] <shutz> remote control in your own network is always possible...
[12:32] <YBinnenweg> Hi guys, when I try to acces my home folder of ubuntu with windows 7 it gives me 2 files "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" & "README" and "README
[12:32] <ryokea> ymonir: keep updated with latest packages and don't click on suspicious links
[12:32] <YBinnenweg>  "README" sais"THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.  From the graphical desktop, click on:  "Access Your Private Data"  or  From the command line, run:  ecryptfs-mount-private"
[12:32] <YBinnenweg> now how can i acces my home folder of ubuntu from windows?
[12:32] <Cradam> hi my machine isnt letting me boot ubuntu from usb, it keeps coming up menu.c32: nota com32r image. i used universal installer
[12:32] <jrib> YBinnenweg: it's encrypted
[12:33] <YBinnenweg> okay..
[12:33] <YBinnenweg> how can i decrypt it?
[12:33] <jrib> YBinnenweg: I'm not sure that's easily done on windows
[12:33] <YBinnenweg> well
[12:33] <YBinnenweg> i can also acces the ubuntu ;)
[12:33] <YBinnenweg> but rightnow i'm on the windows
[12:33] <jrib> YBinnenweg: right, well when you log-in on ubuntu it will be automatically decrypted
[12:33] <jrib> !encrypted | YBinnenweg
[12:33] <elFidel> hi - is de.archive.ubuntu known to be slow as **** since several weeks?
[12:34] <elFidel> seems like running update/upgrade is taking ages on several boxes i have here
[12:34] <YBinnenweg> okay... but I need to acces it from my windows comp. because I need my music on windows to sync it via itunes with my iphone
[12:34] <Blackhex> Hello everyone. What can be wrong and how can I fix that I have no devices in "Sound Preferences" at "Hardware" tab in Gnome althoung sounds are working?
[12:34] <Cradam> lol at how noone is willing to help with this major problem
[12:35] <Cradam> my machine isnt letting me boot ubuntu from usb, it keeps coming up menu.c32: nota com32r image. i used universal installer
[12:35] <ymonir> ryokea: i  updated every new latest packages  - but i want to know how to check is some one is monitoring me - and also i want to block all the gates which allows any one to monitor or see what iam doing on my desktop
[12:35] <bazhang> elFidel, try a different mirror
[12:35] <ikonia> ymonir: monitoring is disabled by deffault
[12:35] <shutz> YBinnenweg: is there any possibility on windows to read unix-based file-systems?
[12:36] <ikonia> ymonir: they would have to set up software on your machine to do that
[12:36] <YBinnenweg> yep
[12:36] <YBinnenweg> a program called ext2fsd
[12:36] <ikonia> ymonir: so don't worry about it
[12:36] <elFidel> bazhang: yes i know that might do the trick - but somehow i am just wondering as it seems that .de mirror is just permanently slow
[12:36] <jrib> YBinnenweg: like I said, I don't think that will be easy.  You can read the details of the setup at the link I gave you
[12:36] <ryokea> ymonir: turn off remote desktop. system -> preferences -> remote desktop. that would be a step in the right direction, also look into setting up a firewall
[12:36] <YBinnenweg> okay
[12:36] <elFidel> which is most likely not supposed to be like that ;)
[12:36] <shutz> YBinnenweg: thanks, I was looking for something like that :p
[12:36] <adac> hi. Is tehre a free pastebin that I can install on my server?
[12:36] <YBinnenweg> haha okay :P
[12:36] <YBinnenweg> well remember
[12:36] <MaslowK> ymonir: Basically dont install things from websites you dont recognize.
[12:36] <ikonia> adac: pastebin is opensource, google for the code
[12:36] <YBinnenweg> you can't acces your home folder -.-
[12:36] <bazhang> elFidel, doubtful it's permanent, my local mirror was completely down a couple of days ago and is fine now
[12:36] <MaslowK> That should keep you safe enough in linux.
[12:36] <z6t6c7u8i> CIAO A TUTTI !!!!!
[12:37] <shutz> indeed :/
[12:37] <YBinnenweg> thats what i need :P
[12:37] <YBinnenweg> i don't want to have 2 times 13 gigs of music xD
[12:37] <jrib> YBinnenweg: so don't encrypt your music
[12:37] <ymonir> thanks for you all
[12:37] <YBinnenweg> lol
[12:37] <YBinnenweg> i didn't encrypt anything..
[12:37] <ryokea> ymonir: no prob
[12:37] <MaslowK> Here's a question; say I have two hard disks; windows and its bootloader are installed on one, and one is used for storage. If I go and install Wubi on the storage disk, will it still add the proper boot entry?
[12:38] <YBinnenweg> i only have a password on my account
[12:38] <jrib> YBinnenweg: I am telling you that you did, your home is encrypted
[12:38] <YBinnenweg> nothing more
[12:38] <elFidel> bazhang: k thanks for the response
[12:38] <ymonir> about setting up a firewall - is it from software center
[12:38] <Blackhex> The same problem is in Kubuntu it has somehting to do with PulseAudio. Somehow alsa is fine with detecting the device but the PulseAudio don't. Anyone?
[12:38] <adac> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/ you mean this one right?
[12:38] <ryokea> ymonir: yea, there is one you can use that works pretty well called firestarter
[12:38] <YBinnenweg> well... maybe some ghost did it.. cause i just installed ubuntu, installed pidgin and some other mess, and i never enabled any kind of encryption in the settings :S
[12:39] <YBinnenweg> also not durning the installation
[12:39] <shutz> YBinnenweg: and your music is in your /home/ folder?
[12:39] <jrib> YBinnenweg: at install there is an option to encrypt your home directory
[12:39] <ymonir> and is there really - some back doors for ubuntu - or viruses ?
[12:39] <YBinnenweg> yep it is
[12:39] <YBinnenweg> uhmm
[12:39] <YBinnenweg> yes/
[12:39] <YBinnenweg> ?
[12:39] <bazhang> ymonir, nope
[12:39] <FloodBot1> YBinnenweg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <kos_kos> hi
[12:39] <shutz> an easy way is to copy it to an external hdd or usb-stick :p
[12:40] <Lint01> ymonir, most often server software like proxies or spambots
[12:40] <jrib> YBinnenweg: what you described earlier indicates that your home is encrypted, you can refuse to believe it, but that won't really change much :)
[12:40] <YBinnenweg> i know
[12:40] <YBinnenweg> i believe it's encrypted
[12:40] <ymonir> thanks - thanks alooottt
[12:40] <ryokea> ymonir: generally? no, but security vulnerabilities pop up from time to time that could be exploited. ubuntu is kept up to date security wise pretty well so as long as you keep updating your system, you will be fine
[12:40] <YBinnenweg> i just don't know how i did it lol :P i never enabled anything, and is there some kind of option to disable the encryption in ubuntu?
[12:40] <jrib> YBinnenweg: just create some directory like /shared and move your music there (do this in ubuntu)
[12:41] <YBinnenweg> okay
[12:41] <YBinnenweg> well i'll reboot in ubuntu
[12:41] <YBinnenweg> and i'll be back :P
[12:41] <YBinnenweg> if you don't mind (A)
[12:41] <YBinnenweg> :P
[12:41] <FloodBot1> YBinnenweg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <shutz> good luck
[12:41] <jrib> YBinnenweg: the link I gave you tells you how to disable it altogether if you prefer
[12:41] <auro1> hey
[12:41] <auro1> i bricked my windows bootloader
[12:41] <ymonir> thank you ryokea :)
[12:41] <auro1> it just hangs then goes back to the grub loader
[12:41] <YBinnenweg> install grub bootloader from ubuntu
[12:42] <auro1> i am uisng the grub one
[12:42] <auro1> and its doing fine
[12:42] <YBinnenweg> grub can automatically search for windows 8
[12:42] <ryokea> ymonir: no prob
[12:42] <YBinnenweg> windows 7*
[12:42] <Pumpkin-> can I safely assume everything else in a normal startup has actually started before stuff in /etc/rc.local gets executed on system boot. I'm not sure how asynchronous the upstart boot process is.
[12:42] <YBinnenweg> aww lol
[12:42] <YBinnenweg> why did you tell it then xD
[12:42] <auro1> Yeah but the thing is, when i click on "Windows 7"
[12:42] <sarthor> HI, How to check what version of shorewall i am using ? Command line ?
[12:42] <auro1> it goes to a black window with a _ flashing
[12:42] <auro1> for 5-10 seconds
[12:42] <avinashhm> Hi , can we unbind the alt key [ or meta ] key in gnome terminal .. i saw the profile preferences .nothing catch .. any hints ?
[12:42] <ryokea> Pumpkin-: i think rc.local is run when you log in
[12:42] <auro1> then goes back to the grub menu
[12:42] <YBinnenweg> maybe it's not the right device?
[12:43] <YBinnenweg> i mean
[12:43] <bia> I'm having trouble with updating the android development plugins for Eclipse on Ubuntu. The status is stuck at: "Update: (3%)". Any ideas?
[12:43] <YBinnenweg> that grub is not pointed to the right place where the windows installation is
[12:43] <auro1> i can check.. it should say /dev/sda1...
[12:43] <auro1> can i do something
[12:43] <Pumpkin-> ryokea: that contradicts what it says in its own comments. "# This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel."
[12:43] <auro1> when i am in the grub loader?
[12:43] <YBinnenweg> uhmm
[12:43] <YBinnenweg> as far as i know not..
[12:43] <auro1> ok
[12:43] <YBinnenweg> i remember
[12:43] <YBinnenweg> last night
[12:43] <ryokea> Pumpkin-: my bad, it is run before all other scripts right before the login prompt appears
[12:43] <YBinnenweg> i did a command something like "grub-update"
[12:43] <auro1> oooh
[12:44] <YBinnenweg> and it added windows 7 to my grub bootloader
[12:44] <YBinnenweg> it just rebuilds the whole bootloader
[12:44] <jrib> YBinnenweg: stop pressing enter please
[12:44] <YBinnenweg> sorry.
[12:44] <auro1> How would I use it ?
[12:44] <jrib> Pumpkin-: what do you want to accomplish?
[12:44] <YBinnenweg> open terminal -> grub-update
[12:44] <auro1> not there
[12:44] <auro1> asks me to install either grub or grub2 package
[12:44] <auro1> wich one do i choose?
[12:45] <ryokea> Pumpkin-: correction again, it is run after all other scripts before logon prompt *cant type today*
[12:45] <ikonia> auro1: grub2 is the current default, use it unless you have a reason not to
[12:45] <YBinnenweg> uhmm.. i accually have no idea whats the difference between those once
[12:45] <auro1> ikonia: Thanks
[12:46] <auro1> oooooooooh
[12:46] <auro1> a funny error popped up
[12:46] <auro1> when installing grub2
[12:46] <YBinnenweg> and then it should rebuild some linux related files.. and after that when it's done, you can try reboot
[12:46] <YBinnenweg> let me get on ubuntu :P brb ;)
[12:47] <auro1> http://pastebin.com/fTmPnfMJ
[12:47] <ikonia> auro1: where did you tell it to install ?
[12:48] <auro1> ikonia: ubuntu or grub?
[12:48] <ikonia> auro1: grub
[12:48] <auro1> ikonia: default, didn't mess with it. The error comes from me running "sudo apt-get install grub2"
[12:48] <ikonia> auro1: why are you doing that ?
[12:48] <ikonia> auro1: the installer should have done it for you
[12:48] <auro1> YBinnenweg suggested it
[12:49] <ikonia> auro1: you shouldn't have to run sudo apt-get install grub2 as it should already be installed ?
[12:49] <YBinnenweg> whaaat?
[12:49] <auro1> well it wasn't available apparently. :S
[12:49] <YBinnenweg> i just said grub-update
[12:49] <auro1> oh
[12:49] <auro1> shit
[12:49] <ikonia> auro1: why ?
[12:49] <ikonia> auro1: what? ??
[12:49] <ikonia> auro1: languagfe
[12:49] <ikonia> languag
[12:49] <ikonia> e
[12:49] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <auro1> yeah
[12:49] <auro1> uhm
[12:49] <auro1> well there was no such thing as grub-update
[12:49] <auro1> so i guess i just screwed myself over even more
[12:49] <ikonia> auro1: update-grub
[12:49] <ikonia> auro1: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[12:50] <auro1> 10.10
[12:50] <ikonia> auro1: ok, so grub2 should already be installed and working
[12:50] <auro1> Ok this time it didn't explode. Pastebinning
[12:50] <ikonia> auro1: so what's the issue that is causing you to mess with it
[12:50] <auro1> http://pastebin.com/erqY9VuM
[12:50] <auro1> but its not saying anything new
[12:50] <auro1> Well
[12:50] <Pumpkin-> jrib: I initially want to get some host to host ipsec sessions to start. OpenSwan is invoked fine at boot time by /etc/init.d/ipsec, but it doesn't acutally seem to bother doing IKE until I bring it up with ipsec auto --up blah.
[12:50] <auro1> When I go into grub and try to load "Windows 7"
[12:50] <Satisfied> anybody know of a gui runlevel editor for ubuntu ?
[12:51] <auro1> It gives me a blinking __ for 5-10 seconds
[12:51] <auro1> then goes back to GRUB
[12:51] <tristan3199us> my camera doesnt work on my laptop,, can anyone tell me why there are no devices in /proc/bus/usb
[12:51] <ikonia> auro1: ok, so that's something you don't have to re-install grub for
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Satisfied:  ubuntu uses upstart. not sysv. so the runlevel stuf is not really that used.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Satisfied:  whjat are you trying to change exactly.
[12:51] <Pumpkin-> (its not a major problem as I have iptables blocking non-ESP traffic to the hosts, but I need to get this running for a proof of concept now rather than work out whats broken with openswan. I'll get back to that bit later).
[12:51] <auro1> ikonia: oh okay, i'm just a random newb, i don't know much about linux
[12:51] <ikonia> auro1: that's ok, everyone is new at some point, just try to slow down before rushing into making changes
[12:51] <amarin> question: can linux pass a virus to a mac machine
[12:52] <auro1> ikonia: Yeah...
[12:52] <avinashhm> Hi in gnome terminal, can we unbind Alt or Meta key with menu bar ?
[12:52] <ikonia> auro1: I'll get the bot that will send you a link
[12:52] <ikonia> !grub2 > auro1
[12:52] <ikonia> auro1: depends on the virus
[12:52] <auro1> ikonia: it found the correct "partition"? (dev/sda1
[12:52] <ikonia> auro1: ok, test it
[12:52] <auro1> ok
[12:52] <auro1> testing
[12:52] <auro1> be back
[12:53] <Satisfied> Dr_Willis, thanks... first time I've heard of this upstart so I'll be doing a little reading for now
[12:54] <jrib> Pumpkin-: I'm not familiar with these tools.  However my suggestion is you just write your own init script and make it run after openswan.  Though, I believe the sysv-init scripts will still be run in order even if upstart is taking care of it (so /etc/rc.local should work too).  And actually, I'd be surprised if there isn't some openswan conf file you can modify to setup this up in a more "proper" way, so
[12:54] <jrib> you might try #openswan
[12:55] <Pumpkin-> jrib: yeah, I will do, but for now rc.local SHOULD work, so I'm going with it. I'll work out whats wrong with the proper method later :)
[12:56] <Pumpkin-> when I don't have to worry about management shouting at me for being late.
[12:58] <auro1> hey
[12:58] <auro1> im back
[12:58] <auro1> it was acting exactly the same
[12:58] <auro1> no change (no thanks to me)
[12:58] <FloodBot1> auro1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:58] <sam__> I have a bunch of folders within /home what is the comand to emtpy all of the files within them into home, and then delete the empty folders? So: files in home/a  home/b all end up in /home ?
[13:00] <Pumpkin-> sam__: some contoxion using find. But are you really sure you want to put everyones home directories in /home directly. Sounds a bit mad.
[13:00] <auro1> got ideas?
[13:00] <auro1> ikonia: no change :(
[13:00] <Guest85918> hello, i need some help on natty and kernelproblems, can i get some directions here?
[13:01] <sam__> Pumpkin-, just an example. Not really my /home
[13:01] <vish> !ask | Guest85918
[13:02] <vish> Guest85918: btw, for natty problems you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:02] <sam__> anyone got any pointers on find / cp for me?
[13:02] <MaslowK> Would it be out of line for me to say the !ask command is pointless?
[13:03] <jrib> MaslowK: well it's not pointless...
[13:03] <MaslowK> I mean seriously, how hard is it to just go "*user: Ask away"
[13:03] <MaslowK> ?
[13:04] <jrib> MaslowK: it gets tedious after a while.  That's why it's better to inform people that we prefer they just ask the question.  In the future, we don't have to keep saying "ask away" a million times
[13:04] <vish> MaslowK: that does not ensure that the user will not repeat it again
[13:04] <auro1> BLEHHH
[13:04] <gelo> exit
[13:04]  * MaslowK shrugs
[13:04] <shomon> loads of channels have that stuff in the topic even
[13:05] <auro1> My windows install is bricked. It is windows 7. I can get into GRUB and i can see a windows 7 entry. It is also located on teh correct partition. When i enter it, it hangs with a flashing ___ in the top left corner for 5 seconds then goes back to grub. Any ideas!?
[13:05] <llutz_> shomon: nobody really reads/respects the topic
[13:05] <MaslowK> I just know from having helped moderate a few support channels in my time how easy it is to just go "insert trigger here"
[13:05] <vish> auro1: ##windows for windows problems
[13:05] <auro1> i dont think its windows
[13:05] <auro1> its related to grub loading windows in a dualboot with ubuntu
[13:06] <shomon> yeah I just meant it's quite a normal thing on irc help channels to tell people how to ask
[13:06] <auro1> but i'll crosspost it
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> compare your windows endtry in the grub.cfg with other peoples entries
[13:06] <auro1> Dr_Willis: Where do i find "other peoples entries" ?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> forums ir           | is to just go "insert trigger here"
[13:06] <Dr_Willis>  .         vish | auro1: ##windows for windows problems
[13:07] <Dr_Willis>  .   oops miosspasted
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> forums or google for example entries.
[13:07] <auro1> mmk
[13:08] <Pumpkin-> sam__: something like find * -type d -exec echo mv {}/* . \; -exec echo rmdir {} \;
[13:08] <Pumpkin-> check thats what you want, then remove the echos to actually do it
[13:08] <NicolasX> hola
[13:08] <NicolasX> !
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> sam__:  google for find examples and ussage. theres lots of them
[13:11] <auro1> hmm
[13:11] <auro1> i think i may have found something
[13:12] <auro1> a "windows boot repair" thingy
[13:12] <Dr_Willis>            | is to just go "insert trigger here"
[13:12] <Dr_Willis>  .         vish | auro1: ##windows for windows problems
[13:12] <Dr_Willis>  .             | is to just go "insert trigger here"
[13:12] <Dr_Willis>  .         vish | auro1: ##windows for windows problems
[13:12] <Dr_Willis>  .             | is to just go "insert trigger here"
[13:12] <FloodBot1> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis>  .         vish | auro1: ##windows for windows problems
[13:12] <vish> Dr_Willis: lol!
[13:12] <auro1> LOL
[13:12] <LjL> =)
[13:12] <turneralex> hey fellas.
[13:13] <turneralex> could anyone here help me with a little php? ##php seems to be full :(
[13:13] <LjL> Dr_Willis: scriptfail :P
[13:13] <auro1> turneralex: sure
[13:13] <auro1> maybe you can help me with wiindows being an idiot?
[13:13] <LjL> turneralex: it's not full, you need to be registered and identified to join it
[13:13] <LjL> !register > turneralex    (turneralex, see the private message from ubottu)
[13:13] <vish> turneralex: if its not related to ubuntu support, then only needs to be asked in ##php
[13:13] <turneralex> ahh yes, sorry new to xchat - forgot to ident
[13:14] <auro1> !register > turneralex
[13:16] <shomon> how do I make my internal hostname visible across a lan? so people can access a website on myhostname.domain ?
[13:17] <shomon> is it apache, or do I set that somewhere else?
[13:17] <llutz_> shomon: setup a dns-server
[13:17] <shomon> no, I doubt that. It's already got an internal IP address
[13:17] <shomon> of the 192.168.*.* type
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> shomon:  use one of the dyndns services and port forwarding on your router
[13:18] <shomon> I don't want it to be visible across the net
[13:18] <llutz_> Dr_Willis: dyndns to access across a lan?
[13:18] <shomon> I doubt it could anyway without some port forwarding on the router
[13:18] <llutz_> shomon: setup a dns-server INSIDE your LAN
[13:19] <shomon> ah, I'll look up how to do that
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> 'across a lan' is a little vague
[13:19] <BIGBAMBU> <-- cesk0 has quit (Client closed connection)
[13:19] <BIGBAMBU> --> cesk0<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #programmazione
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[13:19] <BIGBAMBU> --- Iroquis` is now known as Gomez
[13:19] <FloodBot1> BIGBAMBU: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <BIGBAMBU> * Loaded log from Wed Feb 23 23:44:23 2011
[13:19] <shomon> internally... like an intranet thing
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> If you mean by hostname ON a lan..   set up /etc/hosts is one way
[13:19] <shomon> people can access my site from it's IP address
[13:19] <shomon> but I set it up as having the hostname
[13:20] <shomon> ok.. I'll look at that
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> shomon:  from the internet you mean?
[13:20] <llutz_> nobody wants to keep /etc/hosts actual in a LAN with more than 2 hsots
[13:20] <llutz_> hosts
[13:20] <shomon> Dr_Willis: no, just internally in my network
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> llutz_:  i got 4 here. :) home lan.
[13:20] <dubey> hello
[13:20] <llutz_> Dr_Willis: you have too much time
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> shomon:  hosts file would be the quick and dirty way
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> llutz_:  they are all static ip's so the hosts file rarely changes.
[13:20] <llutz_> dnsmasq, 2 minutes, done
[13:20] <shomon> they'd add it to their host file?
[13:21] <dubey> i am trying to install apache2 using apt-get but getting this error : http://pastebin.com/tHGtXbpk
[13:21] <grabarz> for god sake. how can i speed up mouse scroll?
[13:26] <paranoid_ndroid> hello, where can I see the times at which the system was booted?
[13:26] <Benkinooby> !paste
[13:27] <llutz_> paranoid_ndroid: "last reboot"
[13:28] <bullgard> paranoid_ndroid: in /var/log/syslog
[13:31]  * qaisi where can I find snort logs?
[13:31] <Pici> paranoid_ndroid, llutz_: "last reboot" is incorrect here.  "who -b" reports the correct date.
[13:32] <dubey> any help ?
[13:33]  * qaisi <where can I find snort logs?>
[13:33] <qaisi> ??
[13:33] <qaisi> where can I find Snort logs?
[13:34] <stianhj> dubey, why not use a lamp stack like xampp? or install using tasksel?
[13:34] <llutz_> Pici: in what situation does the result differ?
[13:35] <Pici> llutz_: It looks like wtmp doesnt go back far enough on my server to include that data.  "wtmp begins Tue Feb  1 07:57:12 2011", But boot occured in October 2010.
[13:35] <Pici> stianhj: We don't support xampp here, and tasksel will include the same packages that he is trying to isntall with apt-get.
[13:36] <pentarex> hey guys can someone help me with some runscript
[13:36] <NoOova> How get list of files older than 3 days?
[13:36] <llutz_> Pici: in that case, "uptime"
[13:37] <sporedi> how do i install desktop on ubuntu 10.04 (it was working fine but in process to free some disk space i mess the gui )
[13:37] <pentarex> http://pastebin.com/deVm51SW
[13:37] <sporedi> i am using server
[13:38] <Pici> NoOova: find . -ctime +3   should work. (or mtime for modification date).
[13:39] <egolost> hmmm.. I'm planing to switch os from centos to ubuntu server this weekend. I wan't to preserve my lvm/raid5 setup. which ubuntu cd should i use? ubuntu server or alternate?
[13:39] <jrib> NoOova: make sure you understand exactly what ctime is (it's not creation time)
[13:40] <Pici> jrib: I'm not sure I know what the difference is actually.
[13:40] <jrib> egolost: alternate installs the desktop version of ubuntu, so if you want server use the server install
[13:41] <egolost> jrib: ok... thx.
[13:41] <jrib> Pici: from memory, ctime is modifications to the file or inode (things like permissions and owner)
[13:41] <what__the_hell> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[13:41] <what__the_hell> when I try to sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[13:41] <what__the_hell> bug?
[13:42] <what__the_hell> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[13:42] <what__the_hell> 	Soft blocked: no
[13:42] <llutz_> what__the_hell: sudo rfkill wlan0 unblock
[13:42] <what__the_hell> 	Hard blocked: yes
[13:42] <jrib> Pici: man 2 stat  seems to describe it
[13:42] <usr13_> what__the_hell: What exactly are you trying to do?
[13:43] <what__the_hell> llutz_: that command is not right
[13:43] <what__the_hell> you mean unblock wlan0?
[13:43] <llutz_> what__the_hell: or that way round. but since your device is hard-blocked, i doubt it will work
[13:43] <usr13_> what__the_hell: Keep your questions / statements on one line, it will be easier to understand you.
[13:44] <what__the_hell> llutz_: well this started happening after update
[13:44] <usr13_> what__the_hell: What exactly is happening?
[13:44] <llutz_> what__the_hell: updating what?
[13:45] <maite> Hello
[13:45] <what__the_hell> llutz_: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:45] <what__the_hell> ..
[13:45] <what__the_hell> hello maite
[13:46] <what__the_hell> no need to pm
[13:46] <usr13_> what__the_hell: Are you dropping your wireless connection?  Is that the problem?
[13:46] <what__the_hell> usr13_: after i sudo ifconfig wlan0 down I cant put it up
[13:46] <what__the_hell> it worked before
[13:46] <usr13_> what__the_hell: What exactly are you trying to do?
[13:47] <nickknock> hi there all ...
[13:47] <what__the_hell> using macchanger
[13:47] <vizyon9> hi all
[13:47] <cammy_> Hello
[13:47] <what__the_hell> hi to me
[13:47] <Guest15776> hallo
[13:47] <xtbgod> How do i make my genius eye 312 webcam work on my ubuntu 10.10?
[13:47] <vizyon9> we are newby to ubuntu and have a problem abaut sending faxes throuh windows server  server
[13:47] <what__the_hell> usr13_: sudo rfkill event
[13:47] <what__the_hell><PHONE_NUMBER>.817302: idx 0 type 1 op 0 soft 0 hard 1
[13:47] <vizyon9> windows 2003 server
[13:48] <tmus> Doubleclicking folders on my Ubuntu 10.10 desktop takes forever to open the folder...? Known problem?
[13:48] <cammy_> is there any way to create a file that looks like a file to all applications, but the data recieved by the application is controlled by another application?
[13:48] <cammy_> idk if that made sense
[13:48] <cammy_> like a 'streaming file'
[13:48] <Guest15776> how to change nickname
[13:49] <usr13_> what__the_hell: If you are having trouble controlling your network connection, I suggest installing wicd.
[13:49] <vizyon9> guys won't you help me
[13:49] <llutz_> cammy_: you want a fifo or a socket?
[13:49] <what__the_hell> usr13_: yeah ill try
[13:49] <what__the_hell> ;)
[13:49] <usr13_> what__the_hell: sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo reboot  #or just log out and back in again
[13:49] <cammy_> llutz_: do they just look like files to applications?
[13:49] <arand_> what__the_hell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610829 & http://www.geekmind.net/2011/01/linux-wifi-operation-not-possible-due.html
[13:50] <arand_> usr13_: what__the_hell: That likely has nothing to do with this issue
[13:50] <what__the_hell> arand_: already read :)
[13:50] <usr13_> what__the_hell: In other words, you have to log out and back in again for the interface to start working.
[13:50] <usr13_> arand_: What issue?
[13:50] <llutz_> cammy_: depends on the apps
[13:50] <what__the_hell> usr13_: and need to uninstall network manager.
[13:51] <arand_> what__the_hell: And "rfkill unblock wifi" doesn#t help in your case then?
[13:51] <usr13_> what__the_hell: Yes
[13:51] <eugbuntu> Any pidgin users having trouble connecting to facebook chat? was working great up until today. Now it wont connect and states undefined condition
[13:51] <vizyon9> guys how can i send a fax from my pc via fax server on the windows server
[13:51] <cammy_> llutz: I need to send a file using X-Sendfile: using lighttpd, but theres not actually a file to send, its dynamically-created data
[13:51] <usr13_> what__the_hell: sudo apt-get remove network-manager ; sudo apt-get install wicd
[13:52] <cammy_> *llutz_:
[13:52] <what__the_hell> usr13_: yes ..
[13:52] <ikonia> vizyon9: ask the guys in ##windows
[13:52] <hassan> anyone can help ?
[13:52] <usr13_> vizyon9: Do you have a modem and phone line connected to your PC?
[13:52] <vizyon9> i tried gfax but it didn't worked
[13:52] <tyo__> hey guys any experience with virtualbox using usb wlan?
[13:52] <what__the_hell> usr13_: it's just that everything was working correctly before...
[13:52] <ikonia> vizyon9: ooh you mean from your ubuntu machine to the windows fax server ?
[13:52] <usr13_> what__the_hell: Yes, I know.  I've run into this before.
[13:53] <llutz_> cammy_: do some googling about "fifo" or "named pipe", maybe it is what you need
[13:53] <vizyon9> usr13_: there is on the server
[13:53] <what__the_hell> usr13_: btw first i should install wicd because then i have no internets
[13:53] <what__the_hell> :)
[13:53] <dubey> stianhj: Yes i know about this But want to resolve this issue
[13:53] <tyo__> if im using usb wlan and i have wlan on laptop? can im using ad-hoc between host and guest... host ubuntu
[13:53] <ikonia> vizyon9: what format/protocol does the windows fax server talk to the clients on ?
[13:53] <vizyon9> ikonia: server is running no problem on it but we have just installed ubuntu for client but we cant send faxes
[13:53] <usr13_> what__the_hell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afVnO3p67Js
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> tyo__:  ive had issues in the past with gettting adhoc working with some network cards :(
[13:54] <hassan> anyone can help about natty xserver?
[13:54] <llutz_> !natty
[13:54] <joaobmatias> hi, i burned a image of UNE with unetbootin and when i put on the netbook it appears : no init found. try passing init=bootarg, does anyone knows how to solve this? thanks
[13:54] <usr13_> what__the_hell: Actually, you can controll the interface with iwconfig and iwlist
[13:54] <hassan> thanks
[13:54] <what__the_hell> will be natty LTS?
[13:54] <cammy_> llutz_: Does data thats sent but no process recieves it get buffered or lost?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> tyo__:  you want to use a USB wireless dongle, with virtualbox?  shall i ask why?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> what__the_hell:  no its not lts
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[13:54] <vizyon9> ikonia: tcp/ip
[13:54] <llutz_> cammy_: it gets buffered iirc
[13:55] <vizyon9> its an ordinay network
[13:55] <what__the_hell> Dr_Willis: im asking if it will be
[13:55] <vizyon9> at a small company
[13:55] <what__the_hell> Dr_Willis: when  will new LTS version come out
[13:55] <ikonia> vizyon9: ok, but what format is it expecting to get the faxes in, eg: how does the client talk to the server from windows machines, ?
[13:55] <hirogen> hi some guy might join the channel as i advised him to come here to resolve his query since its linix based, anyway im having to hold his hand since he's worried you guyz might be abusive
[13:55] <hirogen> later
[13:55] <usr13_> what__the_hell: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning ; sudo dhclient wlan0  # Where wlan0 is the wireless device.
[13:55] <hirogen> fluter is the guy
[13:55] <rmd_> hirogen: Worried people in here might be abusive?
[13:55] <tyo__> Dr_willes : since i not have a  2 computer im using virtualbox for learning... i want to learn wireless
[13:55] <cammy_> llutz_: thanks
[13:56] <usr13_> what__the_hell: Or  iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys  #Where wlan0 is the wifi device and linksys is the essid of wifi router.
[13:56] <shomon> how do I find out what is running on a specific port?
[13:56] <bibic682> hello, can anyone accurately explain how to get the philips saa 7130  (SBT-TVFM)tuner card installed properly, so tvtime or similar can work?..Don't send me to any site...been there, done that, won't work  :)
[13:56] <vizyon9> ikonia: would you show me a way to how can search it on the net
[13:56] <ikonia> vizyon9: err, google is a common cause
[13:56] <usr13_> shomon: netstat -pantu
[13:56] <shomon> thansk!
[13:56] <ikonia> vizyon9: common method I mean
[13:57] <rmd_> shomon: You can netstat, or download a graphical app.
[13:57] <shomon> thanks even...
[13:57] <ikonia> vizyon9: however what client are you using on your windows clients to talk to the windows server ?
[13:57] <hirogen> rmd the pussy hasnt joined yet
[13:57] <hirogen> jeez
[13:57] <hirogen> later lads
[13:57] <rmd_> ...
[13:57] <hirogen> anyway i will hang here soon as i need to learn ubuntu and become more technical
[13:57] <rmd_> hirogen: you're... interesting.
[13:58] <hirogen> yep im irc legend
[13:58] <hirogen> j/k
[13:58] <gaurav_help> how can i see my wget downlaod progress in new windows for file while downlaoding
[13:58] <usr13_> what__the_hell: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[13:58] <ikonia> hirogen: stop
[13:58] <vizyon9> ikonia: like what
[13:58] <shomon> maybe it's a different problem. I just restarted apache, and it said something is already on port 80...
[13:58] <what__the_hell> usr13_: I know. I have used it before I just didnt remember to try it :P
[13:58] <tyo__> Dr_Willis: so my laptop have wlan and im using virtualbox and attach some usb wlan... im try but no result... so i ask it is posible or not if im connect between host and guest (ad0hoc)
[13:58] <ikonia> vizyon9: what is the client you are using on the windows machine to talk to the windows fax sxerver
[13:58] <tyo__> ad-hoc
[13:58] <rmd_> shomon: running another server?
[13:58] <what__the_hell> usr13_: im using a vbox
[13:58] <usr13_> what__the_hell: o
[13:59] <shomon> well I don't think I ran another server rmd_  but something is there...
[13:59] <shomon> and I can't access localhost:80
[13:59] <what__the_hell> usr13_: vm with usb support macchanger etc
[13:59] <rmd_> shomon: Did you look through the information provided by netstat?
[13:59] <scribawf> How do I clean up Grub2 loader?
[13:59] <vizyon9> ikonia: we were directly connect it via ip adress of server
[14:00] <rmd_> You can also try a  simple netstat -a
[14:00] <what__the_hell> usr13_: wicd doesnt have vpn support thats why i use network manager
[14:00] <ikonia> vizyon9: using what client
[14:01] <pentarex> guys I have a problem with that script http://pastebin.com/bFsNsDEj it says input its too long in line 6... can someone help me
[14:01] <tyo__> Dr_Willis??
[14:01] <shomon> rmd_: I couldn't find localhost:80 or my_ip:80
[14:01] <what__the_hell> usr13_: doesnt work
[14:01] <shomon> the error it gives is (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[14:01] <shomon> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[14:01] <ikonia> pentarex: looks like the classpath is too long
[14:02] <vizyon9> ikonia: whay you mean with client, now we are using ubuntu as a client
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> tyo__:  no idea. i can think of other things to spend time learning then foighting with vbox and a usb thang. :)
[14:02] <usr13_> what__the_hell: What doesn't work?
[14:02] <what__the_hell> usr13_: it's a problem with kernel or something.
[14:02] <what__the_hell> usr13_: ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:02] <vizyon9> and trying to connect fax server to send faxes
[14:02] <vizyon9> ikonia: i didn't understand what you mean
[14:02] <usr13_> what__the_hell: What does iwconfig say?
[14:02] <llutz_> shomon: "sudo lsof -i :80"
[14:02] <rmd_> shomon: Can you pastebin the output from "netstat -a"
[14:02] <tyo__> Dr_Willis : ok, then. thanks :)
[14:02] <ikonia> vizyon9: how hard is this to grasp. When you are not using an ubuntu machien to connect, what do you connect to the Windows Fax Server with
[14:02] <what__the_hell> usr13_: dunno im gonna restore vm snapshot
[14:02] <what__the_hell> ;)
[14:03] <vizyon9> xp
[14:03] <shomon> sure rmd_  just a sec
[14:03] <vizyon9> ikonia: xp
[14:03] <ikonia> vizyon9: ok, on XP what client do you use to connect to the windows fax server
[14:03] <what__the_hell> *XP (xp looks like a smile)
[14:03] <pentarex> ikonia: yeah what advice can you give me..... make some variables than to add this variable to another variable like config1=/usr/..... then config2=$config1 + /usr/....
[14:03] <pentarex> ?
[14:03] <jhonnyboy> xchat isn't showing me the username panel, any idea where this setting can be found?
[14:04] <llutz_> jhonnyboy: ctrl-f7
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> jhonnyboy:  check the side it maybe dragged to the side so far its just hidden
[14:04] <ikonia> pentarex: I don't know to be honest, I've never seen a variable be too long, and I've used LONG ones in the past
[14:04] <pentarex> ikonia: hmmm did you saw thats a runscript
[14:04] <pentarex> ikonia: its not /bin/bash
[14:04] <ikonia> pentarex: ahh, no I missed that
[14:04] <vizyon9> ikonia: ok thank you ikonia for your interest but i ll carry on to search
[14:04] <ikonia> pentarex: in that case, no idea
[14:05] <ikonia> vizyon9: ????? answer the question
[14:05] <shomon> rmd_: http://pastebin.com/57Pyhshn
[14:06] <rmd_> shomon: You have *a lot* going on there.
[14:06] <rmd_> What's this "Orbit"?
[14:06] <what__the_hell> eh imah install 10.04
[14:06] <rmd_> or Orbit Ale?
[14:06] <shomon> probably chat stuff... I'll turn that off...
[14:07] <rmd_> No no
[14:07] <jbwiv_> guys, is there a way to add bash aliases to gnome-session, so that gnome will call those when using "Run Application" instead of the actual app? For example, if I wanted to define "alias rdesktop='rdesktop -g 1500x900'"?
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> jbwiv_:  just make a  simple 2 line script.. would be the easiest way
[14:08] <rmd_> Anyway, from looking at this I don't know what to say.
[14:08] <jbwiv_> Dr_Willis, yeah, but I believe there's a file in gnome that you can add this to. I just can't remember what it's called....
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> the users ~/bin/ is added to the default path if it exists. Im not sure if its at the front of the back of the path
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> jbwiv_:  alias's would be shell specific.. so ive never sen that done that way
[14:08] <rmd_> Whats in your /etc/hosts?
[14:09] <usr13_> what__the_hell: What are  you running now?
[14:09] <jbwiv_> Dr_Willis, I'd hate to create a script for every alias I want defined. I have around 50. this also applies to environment variables you'd like to export into the gnome session
[14:09] <shomon> looks like apache was listening too hard... I took out a listen and it started fine!
[14:09] <shomon> thanks anyway though rmd_
[14:09] <rmd_> Ah
[14:09] <rmd_> Well hell. There you go then.
[14:10] <jbwiv_> so how would you export environment variables into the gnome shell upon login? Say I want to modify gnome's default path, or to set JAVA_HOME, or something else?
[14:10] <jrib> jbwiv_: use ~/.profile
[14:11] <jrib> jbwiv_: ~/.xprofile used to work too and be X-specific but not sure if that's still the case
[14:11] <jbwiv_> jrib, ok, so ~/.profile is the key. perfect. thanks!
[14:13] <hassan-> !natty
[14:13] <JuJuBee> I have an iPod and am very frustrated with the lack of playlist support. So much so I am considering replacing it. What mp3 device plays well with linux as far as being able to sync playlists along with music?
[14:14] <jrib> JuJuBee: my sansa has worked great for me
[14:14] <usr13_> shomon: netstat -pantu |grep 80   #To cut down the size of the output and you can more easily see what you want.
[14:15] <JuJuBee> jrib: what software do you use on linux?
[14:15] <jrib> JuJuBee: I just copy files directly onto it
[14:16] <JuJuBee> jrib what about playlists?  I keep many playlists on my laptop...
[14:16] <jrib> JuJuBee: I copy those too
[14:16] <JuJuBee> I see, and that works fine?  Why does amarok have such difficult time with playlists then?
[14:17] <jrib> JuJuBee: I don't know.  I like to keep things simple
[14:17] <JuJuBee> I would also...
[14:17] <JuJuBee> Thanks for the suggestion.
[14:17] <pentarex> ikonia: can you tell me how I can make start script in /etc/init.d/ when I type /etc/init.d/script start to start /etc/init.d/stop to stop and etc...
[14:18] <shomon> thanks usr13_
[14:18] <shomon> I had done that here, but because he'd asked for the whole thing I sent it
[14:18] <ikonia> pentarex: it's just a set of functions from a case statment
[14:18] <jrib> JuJuBee: if you want to use it in mtp mode instead of msc mode, that's probably possible too (just google "rhythmbox sansa clip" maybe to see experiences others have had), but I've never bothered
[14:18] <shomon> anyway all better now :)
[14:18] <usr13_> shomon: very good.
[14:18] <pentarex> ikonia: can you give me some tutorial
[14:18] <ikonia> pentarex: plenty on the next
[14:19] <JuJuBee> jrib downside... sansa not so large capacity... I have over 40GB music I like to take with me...
[14:19] <pentarex> next=net* ?
[14:19] <jrib> JuJuBee: ah yes, then these players are not what you want
[14:19] <ikonia> oops net, sorry pentarex
[14:19] <ikonia> pentarex: also look at what's already there as an example
[14:21] <jrib> JuJuBee: you can usually search the ubuntu forums for a player model to get an idea of how well it works.  I'd definitely recommend getting something that can act as a storage device when you ask it too though
[14:21] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[14:22] <usr13_> pentarex: Here is an example:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/571743/
[14:22] <d1gital> I have some sort of link called /chroot that contains links to everything on / (except /chroot, fortunately).  If i delete anything from /chroot, the original file is deleted as well.  The really strange part is that these "links" take up just as much space on the filesystem as the originals, effectively cutting the capacity in half.  What am I dealing with here, and how do I remove it?
[14:23] <ikonia> d1gital: who set this up ?
[14:23] <pentarex> usr13_: ah this is easy tutorial ty
[14:24] <Moosefan> Hey guys, total noob here. I have a RAID5-device in NTFS. Now, I'd like to mount this device permanently, and found the NTFS Config Tool after looking over the support pages, only it doesn't wanna fire up. Anyone got any ideas?
[14:24] <jrib> d1gital, ikonia: maybe mount --bind? (first guess)
[14:24] <usr13_> pentarex: NP
[14:24] <ikonia> jrib: not sure, hence why I'm curious to who's set this up
[14:24] <d1gital> ikonia: I did, at some point, but I don't remember how or why.  I think It was to create a 32-bit chroot, but it seems like that wouldn't work since it points to 64bit binaries.
[14:24] <usr13_> d1gital: What does ls -l  say about these "links"?
[14:25] <ikonia> d1gital: if you did it, you can't remember why and you're not using it, don't worry about it
[14:25] <Provenzano> I can't run my ubuntu. when I run my pc, it says there are no partitions. I try to use a live cd, however my ubuntu partition has been desappeared. what can I do?
[14:25] <d1gital> usr13_: they look just like regular files.  the inodes are same as the originals, but they still take up space
[14:26] <d1gital> ikonia:  I can't delete them without breaking the system, and my space is cut in half.
[14:26] <d1gital> jrib:  That's it.  I found entries of type "bind" in /etc/fstab
[14:27] <jrib> surprises me that that affects your free space
[14:27] <usr13_> Provenzano: Boot to a liveCD and see what is there, (or not there as the case may be).
[14:28] <d1gital> jrib: me too.. maybe i'm mistaken.  I'll re-run baobab.
[14:28] <Provenzano> usr13_ windows partition are there. however ubuntu no. can I recover it?
[14:29] <iiname> hello
[14:29] <usr13_> ls -l /chroot | pastebinit
[14:30] <Robert17> Hello, i have a question about dsl, but i think some of you can help me out, i have dsl on a usb pendrive, but it loads the OS from the pendrive into the memory, and i want that it runs every thing from the pendrive so it doesnt load the whole os in the memory
[14:30] <pentarex> usr13_: -bash: /etc/init.d/devices2: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory    :X
[14:31] <kaushal1> Hi
[14:31] <abhinav_singh> i already have ubuntu -32 bit installed in my machine..i already have 3 partition ..details are here...http://pastebin.com/nBcK26rj .i want to install a fresh copy of ubuntu 64 bit.. which partition should i use?
[14:31] <Provenzano> usr13_ : ls : cannot access /chroot no such file or directorie
[14:31] <llutz_> pentarex: recode ibmpc:lat1   <scriptname>
[14:31] <usr13_> Provenzano: df | pastebinit
[14:32] <pentarex> llutz_: what ?
[14:32] <High_Priest> abhinav_singh, you want to replace 32bit with 64bit?
[14:32] <Pumpkin-> pentarex: you have copied that from a windows machine and the line endings are wrong. You need to sort out the ^M's that you will find all over the file. You can do this with sed, tr, recode, dos2unix or some other stuff.
[14:32] <usr13_> Provenzano: I thought you just said they were in /chroot ?
[14:32] <Robert17> Hello, i have a question about dsl, but i think some of you can help me out, i have dsl on a usb pendrive, but it loads the OS from the pendrive into the memory, and i want that it runs every thing from the pendrive so it doesnt load the whole os in the memory
[14:32] <pentarex> Pumpkin-: yes
[14:32] <compdoc> Provenzano, do you have the live cd booted right now?
[14:32] <pentarex> how i can recode it ?
[14:32] <Zoffix> Hey, I'm on Maverick and I need to install python-dev, but when I try, it tells me `python` version 2.6.6-2ubuntu1 is required but 2.6.6-2ubuntu2 is only available. How would I go about this problem?
[14:32] <llutz_> pentarex: recode ibmpc:lat1   <scriptname>
[14:33] <Provenzano> usr13_ where can I see /chroot? I'm a little noob
[14:33] <Provenzano> compdoc yes
[14:33] <pentarex> llutz_: I dont have recode app in ubuntu
[14:33] <abhinav_singh> High_Priest no i want to install fresh copy of 64 bit
[14:33] <llutz_> pentarex: install it
[14:33] <jrib> Robert17: #damnsmalllinux
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> Robert17:  by 'dsl' you mean dam-small-linux mini disrto?
[14:33] <Robert17> yes
[14:33] <usr13_> Provenzano: Sorry, I confused  you with another.      But if I were  you, I'd boot to a liveCD and see what is there, (or not there as the case may be).
[14:34] <compdoc> Provenzano, select System>Administration>Disk Utility, and select your drive in the list
[14:34] <iiname> hello I installed chase douglas multitouch on a tablet yesterday, touch still does not work, should I try utouch-gesturetest_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[14:34] <VP1> may u pl tell me a good PHP chat room name?
[14:34] <pentarex> llutz_: recode: /etc/init.d/devices2 failed: Ambiguous output in step `CR-LF..data'
[14:35] <ikonia> pentarex: try #bash
[14:35] <abhinav_singh> help me guys
[14:35] <Provenzano> usr13_ and compdoc, on disk utility my ubuntu partition has been marked as free. swap appear correctly
[14:35] <compdoc> Provenzano, do you see the Smart data button? click that and see if there any reallocated sectors
[14:36] <High_Priest> abhinav_singh, you need a new / partition... looking at your partitions I'd take a part of /dev/sda6 or sda7 for this new /
[14:36] <Oer> VP1 try channel ##PHP or #phpbb
[14:36] <VP1> Oer:Thanks!
[14:36] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: I would suggest you not try to have the two versions installed at the same time
[14:37] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: use one or the other if you can
[14:37] <Provenzano> compdocreallocated sector count is 0
[14:37] <ubuntu_> hello
[14:37] <Moosefan> Trying to permamount an NTFS RAID5-array, but the NTFS Config Tool doesn't wanna work. Anyone got any ideas?
[14:37] <abhinav_singh> i also dnt want to install the two version at same time...i am okay with 32 bit..but i have to use mongodb and that dnt work fine with 32 bits so i am in dilemma ikonia
[14:38] <ikonia> Moosefan: how was the raid5 device made ?
[14:38] <Moosefan> hardware raid
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Moosefan:  make a /etc/fstab entry by hand. the ntfs-3g docs/homepage gives examples.. ive no idea how raid afects that
[14:38] <compdoc> Provenzano, why do you think you lost the partition? that doesnt happen for no reason
[14:38] <ikonia> Moosefan: what type of hardware raid, motherboard fake raid or a true hardware raid controller ?
[14:38] <Moosefan> no problem with it at all, it's just that sometimes when I boot I can't mount it
[14:38] <Moosefan> motherboard wannabe-hardware
[14:39] <ikonia> Moosefan: that may be part of the problem then....you're lucky it assembles at all, it can sometimes assemble the array post ubuntu boot though so it doesn't get mounted
[14:39] <compdoc> Provenzano, reallocated sector = 0 is a good sign theres no problems with the drive
[14:39] <Provenzano> compdoc my brother for mistake started using windows recovery partition. and after it, he reboot pc, without recover anything
[14:39] <Moosefan> It wont't mount the drive beause it contains/ends up in /dev/somewhere-that-apparently-stops-it-from-being-mounted
[14:39] <ikonia> Moosefan: /dev is where it should be
[14:39] <VP1> I'm new to PHP; when called FROM A  form submit using action,  my browser tries to download the PHP script than executing it; pl help
[14:39] <Moosefan> I reboot and try again a few times, and eventually it'll work
[14:39] <ikonia> VP1: try in ##php
[14:40] <Moosefan> aye, but sometimes the drive (or one of the drives in the array) becomes busy
[14:40] <ikonia> VP1: PHP scripting support is in the channel ##php
[14:40] <Moosefan> and so, I can't mount it
[14:40] <usr13_> Provenzano: Was this  previously a dual boot system?
[14:40] <ikonia> Moosefan: I wonder if it's just slow assembling it as it's fakeraid and ubuntu is getting there faster
[14:40] <erUSUL> !lamp | VP1 the wiki about lamp setup has a troubleshootin section
[14:40] <Provenzano> yes usr13_
[14:40] <usr13_> Provenzano: Does MS Windows boot now?
[14:40] <ikonia> erUSUL: well spotted, my mistake
[14:40] <Moosefan> Well, the array always shows up, no problem there
[14:41] <erUSUL> ikonia: no problem ;)
[14:41] <abhinav_singh> ikonia brother you are there..what problem i will face if i have both of them at same time
[14:41] <iiname> hello, is there someone familiar with the utouch package?
[14:41] <Provenzano> usr13_ grub is not working. it says there are no partitions, and I can't start OS
[14:41] <ikonia> Moosefan: yes as that's the device file
[14:41] <VP1> ikonia: OK but nobody is replying there; may I expect the help here?
[14:41] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: the boot loader will not like having two ubuntu installs to manage
[14:41] <usr13_> Provenzano: Can you boot to MS Windows?
[14:41] <ikonia> VP1: it was my mistake, check out the link erUSUL gave you
[14:41] <Provenzano> usr13_ no, cause grub open first
[14:42] <abhinav_singh> okay so what would you suggest ikonia
[14:42] <Moosefan> Might be that it's slow, haven't relly tested that. Anyway, it would still be nice to have it automounted, since i acess it from a windows comp and use it as a network drive, mostly
[14:42] <usr13_> Provenzano: I suggest you  boot to a liveCD and see what is there, (or not there as the case may be).
[14:42] <usr13_> Provenzano: Do you have a linux CD?
[14:42] <Provenzano> I did it usr13_ what I should do now?
[14:43] <Moosefan> Anyway, Imma try to wait a while next time it won't mount, and see if waiting fixes it
[14:43] <Provenzano> I boot with ubuntu live cd
[14:43] <usr13_> Provenzano: sudo fdisk -l
[14:43] <ikonia> Moosefan: try putting it in /etc/fstab however if it is a speed issue I can't see that working
[14:43] <usr13_> Provenzano: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[14:44] <Provenzano> usr13_ pastebinit is not installed
[14:44] <Moosefan> M'kay, imma try out the slow-theory first tho. Thanks alot!
[14:44] <usr13_> !pastebin | Provenzano
[14:44] <le0n2s> anyone know if can i do "System Monitor" from ubuntu using php pages?
[14:45] <usr13_> Provenzano: Use http://paste.ubuntu.com if you can not use pastebinit
[14:45] <rmd_> OK. This is insanity.
[14:46] <rmd_> How do I tell the system to stop automounting crap so that I can format this USB stick?
[14:46] <DeadPanda> rmd_, use Disk Utility to unmount the volume (not the drive)
[14:46] <Robert17> f
[14:46] <Robert17> d
[14:46] <Robert17> d
[14:46] <FloodBot1> Robert17: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <Robert17> oo sorry
[14:46] <DeadPanda> rmd_, it's the button beneath the the volume selector
[14:46] <jo-erlend> j11
[14:46] <usr13_> rmd_: umount it
[14:46] <jo-erlend> bah.
[14:46] <sogeking99> hey guys, how do i stop a frozen fullscreen  application? i tried playing egoboo and it froze and i had to force shutdown
[14:46] <Robert17> soryy ..
[14:46] <usr13_> rmd_: umount /dev/sd??
[14:47] <rmd_> usr13_: umount.. that would work in any OTHER situation. But Ubuntu has decided that that crap just doesn't work.
[14:47] <deuterium> i tried to create a link to a web page on the desktop using chromium on ubuntu 10.10. instead, it downloads a html dump of the page and puts it on the desktop. any workaround?
[14:47] <rmd_> It isn't silly enough, I guess.
[14:47] <zek152> Is it common for the proprietary ATI driver to actually slow down video playback quality?
[14:47] <usr13_> rmd_: sudo umount /dev/sd??
[14:47] <ikonia> zek152: has been known