[13:23] <Gokul12> 	Hi. I am trying to install Kicad from the kicad-install.sh on my Ubuntu 12.04. Half way through installation, it asked me for bzr launchpad account, I created it, uploaded my public key, added my launchpad id in terminal, If I try to restart installation, it says "bzr: ERROR: No WorkingTree exists for "file:///home/gokulakrishna/kicad_sources kicad.bzr/.bzr/checkout/"
[13:23] <Gokul12> How do I get the .sh to restart installation now?
[20:32] <Shoo6> hi. is it intended resp. dodumented that i cant add dirs to a repo which contain .git/.gitignore files?
[20:33] <Shoo6> i spend hours searching for a mistake in .bzrignore files, argh
[20:36] <jelmer> Shoo6: do you have bzr-git installed?
[20:36] <Shoo6> btw if i want to use bzr to keep track/backup of linux config/system files like /etc /boot, what would be the best repo structure?
[20:36] <Shoo6> nope, 2.6.0*
[20:37] <Shoo6> i think
[20:37] <Shoo6> let me recheck
[20:37] <jelmer> (see the output of 'bzr plugins')
[20:37] <Shoo6> 2.6.0 on archlinux
[20:38] <Shoo6> is bzr-git solid enough
[20:38] <Shoo6> ?
[20:39] <Shoo6> btw i had some crashed throu unicode errors from @ or \ on filenames too
[20:39] <jelmer> Shoo6: it's broken, I no longer  maintain it
[20:39] <Shoo6> what is broken, bzr-git?
[20:39] <jelmer> Shoo6: if it is installed, it might prevent you from adding .git/.gitignore files
[20:39] <Shoo6> i didnt add them, they were there before ;)
[20:41] <Shoo6> regarding my question to usr bzr for system backup. when i want to have deduplication and space efficiency i have to put all host data into on repo separated thoutgh branches right?
[20:44] <jelmer> I think the same applies as with other data; if you use a shared repo you can avoid storing multiple copies of revisions
[20:46] <Shoo6> k thx just to make sure
[20:47] <Shoo6> jelmer: shoudl i go on with 2.7*?
[20:48] <Shoo6> -dev
[20:48] <jelmer> Shoo6: 2.6 should be fine
[20:49] <Shoo6> hhm crossing fingers
[20:50] <Shoo6> btw it woukd be really nice if i could do python regexp when doing 'bzr add "RE:...'
[20:51] <Shoo6> the usual ignore syntax really sucks
[22:18] <jelmer> zyga: how's your bzr3 port going?
[22:18] <zyga> jelmer: hey
[22:19] <zyga> jelmer: I had some attempts and got a few things working but I didn't have the time to touch it lately, lots of stuff going on on weekends here


[06:18] <sobersabre> hm.
[06:18] <sobersabre> empty chan...
[17:38] <tech404> I have a new laptop for work that I need to lock down. I will need to make sure that data in my /home stays confidential but I have little need to worry about integrity. I'd like to use as little encryption as possible as storage I/O is already slower than I'd like due to the 5400 HD. However, I do have 4 gigs of ram. I have looked through some Docs but but most are dedicated to full-disk. Is the encrypt home option effective if someone gets
[20:16] <tech404> :-/
[21:11] <one_>


 :D
[12:46] <DarkMageZ> armin76, xine-plugin :P
[12:47] <DarkMageZ> mplayerplug-in ftl
[12:47] <DarkMageZ> tho i found a bug in xine-plugin. it's a lot less work than fixing gstremer.
[13:51] <asac> jimmy_: update on icons et al?
[13:52] <asac> DarkMageZ: ?
[13:53] <DarkMageZ> asac, you know how i've been bitching about none of the media player firefox plugins can buffer properly? i found one that does.
[13:53] <asac> which?
[14:09] <DarkMageZ> xine-plugin
[14:09] <DarkMageZ> it needs alittle bit of work. but not massive amounts of work like getting totem to buffer properly.
[14:11]  * DarkMageZ checks if totem-xine buffers properly.
[14:15] <DarkMageZ> totem-xine buffers properly has well. but needs a visual indication to make it complete.
[14:19] <DarkMageZ> looks like xine needs to be fixed up to play one of my favorite online videos tho =D
[14:23] <DarkMageZ> i don't like the chances of getting xine into the stock install of ubuntu hardy or any other future release. looks like totem-gstreamer & gstreamer need fixing up :(
[14:24] <DarkMageZ> anyways. later. it's 1:24am here.
[20:11] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 404634
[20:11] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 404634 in Embedding: GRE Core "http urls don't render in TestGtkEmbed" [Critical,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404634
[20:11] <Ubulette> asac, ^^
[20:11] <Ubulette> Applying patch bz404634_att290373.patch
[20:11] <Ubulette> patching file embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedPrivate.cpp
[20:11] <Ubulette> Hunk #1 FAILED at 231.
[20:11] <Ubulette> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedPrivate.cpp
[20:11] <Ubulette> in trunk
[22:17] <jimmy_> asac: i got the zoom in/out buttons added
[22:17] <jimmy_> i am currently using the icons bob spencer sent me, and jason is going to send me some newer ones, i think
[22:17] <jimmy_> do you want me to check in the changes to the WORKING directory?


[04:48] <fishcooker> how to show changelog on every ubuntu package update; ie: http://vpaste.net/YnNXo ?
[05:37] <cpaelzer> good morning
[07:07] <sobukus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1587142 … I wonder if suddenly something happens on that one.
[07:07] <sobukus> If I should count on this being fixed in 16.04 some time or if I should make a local hack.
[07:07] <sobukus> Servers not being able to reboot is not nice.
[08:39] <Pjusur> Good Morning ppl, is there a way to make journald not pick syslog messages from a specific services? just syslog to rsyslog
[08:45] <necrophcodr> If I do `SetEnv SOMETHING "else"` and `PassEnv SOMETHING` in a virtual host, then that variable still isn't accessible in, say, a .htaccess file with RewriteCond %{ENV:SOMETHING}
[08:45] <necrophcodr> How can I make that happen?
[08:45] <necrophcodr> It seems that SetEnv and PassEnv work great for CGI or FCGId based stuff, but has no affect on .htaccess files.
[09:25] <trippeh> hm. unbound needs some work in artful. it is set up as type notify in systemd, but the apparmor profile doesnt allow it. if you allow it, reloads are still broken, probably a sd_notify missing somewhere.
[09:33] <sobukus> OK, I'm down to 'only' a RAID resync on each boot, from endless hang on any reboot/shutdown attempt.
[09:34] <sobukus> Please, Ubuntu folks, implement the proper strategy of RAID array build-up/tear-down as indicated in the linked fedora issues for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1587142 .
[09:34] <sobukus> Or bug mdadm folks to push mdmon into the kernel to avoid the trigger for this whole mess.
[10:18] <RoyK> necrophcodr: it's no difference between running apache on a vm compared to running it on metal - I guess something is messed up in the apache config
[10:21] <necrophcodr> RoyK, i'm not refering to virtualization
[10:21] <necrophcodr> I'm refering to <VirtualHost>
[10:22] <necrophcodr> I guess I should've specified it was regarding Apache2 setup :)
[10:22] <RoyK> ah - I see
[10:23] <RoyK> well, that was pretty obvious, but I read it as you had a problem on a "virtual machine"
[10:23] <RoyK> necrophcodr: not sure if there are much apache gurus here, though
[10:24] <necrophcodr> I'm not sure where else to ask about apache stuff though
[10:24] <RoyK> you may want to try #httpd
[12:43] <hhee> good time. mod in apache2 in ubuntu (16.04) shown in packages list as libapache2? or libapache2-mod? i need to find out numbers ands names of installed apache2 modules
[13:06] <ahasenack> hhee: libapache2-mod-* seems to be the norm
[13:11] <hhee> ahasenack, got it
[13:41] <sobukus> Ahw, maaaaan. The latest kernel update broke Infiniband RDMA here. Works with 4.4.0-83-generic, broken with 4.4.0-93-generic. What changed?!
[13:42] <sobukus> I thought that is why we use LTS!
[13:43] <sobukus> apt-get changelog is not helpful.
[13:44] <sdeziel> sobukus: take a look at /usr/share/doc/linux-image-4.4.0-93-generic/changelog.Debian.gz
[13:48] <sobukus> Ah, thanks. I realise that there is a massive amount of changes between these two. I guess I have to test some versions inbetween.
[13:48] <sobukus> I don't see an overt reference to infiniband.
[13:52] <sobukus> Hm, I need to hunt down 4.4.0-84
[13:53] <sdeziel> sobukus: the Xenial -proposed kernel (-94) has some fixes related to RDMA so you might want to take a look there as well
[13:56] <sobukus> That might be a better direction.
[14:04] <sobukus> sdeziel: Ah, magic! With -94, rdma works again.
[14:04] <sdeziel> glad to hear that
[14:05] <sobukus> Now I need to figure out if I can reboot the servers without upsetting clients …
[14:20] <madLyfe> so does 17 become the LTS? or is it a different #? after 16.
[14:20] <ahasenack> madLyfe: 18.04 will be the next LTS
[14:21] <madLyfe> which is just everything from 17, just in stable form?
[14:22] <sobukus> madLyfe: That's the idea;-)
[14:22] <sobukus> LTS every two years … in between the big rockin' changes.
[14:22] <genii> madLyfe: LTS releases are the first release in even numbered years. So 14.04 16.04 18.04
[14:23] <madLyfe> that makes it easy
[14:23] <madLyfe> so in the 16 installer you can select HWE installer. is this default in 17?
[14:26] <M3mphiZ> After enabling PAM authentication using private-key and google-authenticator using this tutorial (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-multi-factor-authentication-for-ssh-on-ubuntu-16-04), my gitlab instance doesn't accept any pull/push anymore. how can i tell it to not use pam with the git user?
[14:26] <sdeziel> madLyfe: HWE kernels are only available to LTS versions
[14:28] <madLyfe> oh
[14:28] <madLyfe> HWE for server is the future though, correct?
[14:33] <sdeziel> not only servers, no. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:38] <madLyfe> its the future stack for all releases is what i mean
[14:41] <sdeziel> it's a backport of a more recent kernel (and/or X stack) for a LTS release
[14:42] <sdeziel> in otherwords, you get the kernel of a non-LTS readily installable on your LTS
[14:43] <madLyfe> but im saying, in like the next LTS(18) will HWE be the default in installer and not how GA kernel is right now?
[14:46] <sdeziel> "Server installations will default to the GA kernel and provide the enablement kernel as optional." from the link above
[14:46] <madLyfe> ya but thats for 16. what about 18?
[14:47] <madLyfe> im asking if the plan is to move everything to HWE?
[14:50] <sdeziel> HWE used to be the default for ${LTS}.2
[14:50] <sdeziel> now it's the default only for desktop installs
[14:50] <sdeziel> for servers, the default is the GA kernel
[14:55] <madLyfe> are they planning on changing the default for server to HWE?
[15:08] <nacc> madLyfe: 18.04 hasn't started yet (17.10 isn't out yet). I don't believe there are plans to change the above
[15:11] <madLyfe> so they will just keep offering HWE during install?
[15:11] <nacc> madLyfe: i assume so
[15:11] <madLyfe> thats confusing
[15:11] <nacc> madLyfe: why?
[15:12] <madLyfe> i mean.. is there a reason not to run HWE over GA?
[15:12] <nacc> madLyfe: yes
[15:12] <nacc> madLyfe: if you don't need it
[15:12] <nacc> it's more change to audit
[15:12] <nacc> kernels have bugs too
[15:57] <nacc> powersj: are artifacts of jenkins jobs saved at all (e.g., the snap)
[15:57] <powersj> nacc: they can be, but only a certain number
[15:57] <nacc> powersj: ok, np
[15:58] <nacc> powersj: just wondering
[19:55] <madLyfe> do you have to install grub?
[20:19] <madLyfe> i cant figure out why this happens after i install server to a microSD card and then reboot after install to boot for the first time: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QakJoRAR/irccloudcapture683196535.jpg everything works fine when i install to a USB stick.
[21:40] <nacc> madLyfe: is it actually booting from the microsd card?
[21:42] <madLyfe> i dont know. when i restart from the install, i pull the installer usb stick and its just the mSD card and thats the msg i get right when it would show the ubuntu boot process or grub
[21:43] <madLyfe> if i pull the SD card it just says cant find boot drive or whatever. thats normal though because there is nothing there to boot to.
[21:44] <nacc> madLyfe: does `ls` from the grub rescue prompt work? does it display anything?
[21:47] <madLyfe> nacc: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EUlEjkxt/irccloudcapture365147137.jpg
[21:48] <nacc> madLyfe: try `ls (hd0,msdos1)/`
[21:48] <nacc> madLyfe: tab complete *should* work, as well
[21:48] <nacc> madLyfe: my guess is it was unable to read or find a config file
[21:52] <madLyfe> not sure what you mean by tab complete https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mHopvUFC/irccloudcapture1198195483.jpg
[21:54] <nacc> madLyfe: you can hit <tab>
[21:54] <nacc> madLyfe: so that's your root fs
[21:56] <nacc> madLyfe: can you do something like `root (hd0,msdos1)`
[21:56] <nacc> madLyfe: and then `configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg`
[21:58] <madLyfe> sorry had a phone call
[21:58] <madLyfe> 'root' unknown command
[21:59] <nacc> madLyfe: ok, just hit tab and see what commands are available
[21:59] <madLyfe> tab does nothing
[21:59] <nacc> madLyfe: and then google around for the commands
[21:59] <nacc> madLyfe: ok
[22:02] <madLyfe> hmmm help is an unknown command but says use that to get a complete command list
[22:02] <madLyfe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[22:04] <nacc> madLyfe: probably because it's in the recovery mode
[22:04] <nacc> madLyfe: rescue mode, i mean
[22:04] <nacc> madLyfe: it seems like it read past the end of the disk while trying to laod itself
[22:06] <madLyfe> ive read where some ppl have this issue with partitions on large disks but this is only a 16gb sd card
[22:06] <nacc> madLyfe: sd cards may not be well supported as boot media on this machien?
[22:06] <nacc> madLyfe: not sure
[22:07] <nacc> powersj: do you have a log handy of the failed `quilt` ?
[22:07] <nacc> *quilt push
[22:07] <madLyfe> actually i talked to HPE and they said the only thing that will boot on this blade is the SD card and not USB. so far its the opposite.
[22:07] <nacc> powersj: at what version it happened at, i mean
[22:07] <nacc> madLyfe: fun :)
[22:08] <madLyfe> but the sd card would ride the usb chip?
[22:08] <madLyfe> just thinking if i turned off something
[22:08] <madLyfe> cuz i def turned off the network stuffs and probably the sata controller
[22:08] <madLyfe> scsi stuff
[22:08] <nacc> madLyfe: did you need to turn them off?
[22:09] <madLyfe> well for a mining server, saving power is key.
[22:09] <madLyfe> turn off everything that isnt needed.
[22:09] <powersj> nacc: whatever master was last Friday
[22:09] <powersj> https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/job/git-ubuntu-ci/55/console
[22:10] <nacc> powersj: ok, that's fixed then
[22:10] <nacc> i'll let the job finish and merge it
[22:10] <nacc> madLyfe: functionality seems more key first
[22:10] <nacc> madLyfe: :)
[22:10] <madLyfe> i wasnt ever planning to use sd card though so not using it isnt a huge deal but would save a few bucks per server if i could get it to work.
[22:11] <madLyfe> i wouldnt need a usb hub then.
[22:11] <madLyfe> $10 per server. adds up.
[22:12] <madLyfe> but at the top is says 'attempting boot from usb drivekey' and then shows the dirs so it must be using the usb chip
[22:16] <madLyfe> The proper paths must be set via the set prefix command.
[22:16] <madLyfe> Many GRUB 2 commands will not work until the correct path is set.
[22:16] <madLyfe> If the path to the grub folder (normally /boot/grub) is not correct, an unknown command or file not found message is likely.
[22:17] <madLyfe> i have to jet for a bit
[22:17] <madLyfe> thanks
[22:20] <elico> *: Maybe anyone knows why the bug fix is not being backported? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptstate/+bug/1562333
[22:21] <sarnold> elico: because you haven't prepared and tested a debdiff to fix it yet :)
[22:22] <sarnold> elico: packages in universe are community-maintained
[22:22] <elico> sarnold: I took the package from zetsy and installed on xenial and it works..
[22:23] <elico> sarnold: is there a guide about doing a debdiff??
[22:23] <sarnold> elico: nothing easy.. here's a starting point for the process to add a patch to a package https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[22:25] <elico> sarnold: but if the zetsy package works fine, why not use it??
[22:25] <nacc> elico: becuase that's not how things work.
[22:25] <nacc> elico: and mixing and matching release is a bad idea (tm)
[22:26] <elico> nacc: OK but nobody does anything..
[22:26] <sarnold> elico: depending upon how much changed that might even be a solution, but it takes a -lot- of convincing to make that happen. applying a patch to a package is usually the far faster route
[22:26] <sarnold> elico: aye. tragedy of the commons lived out in software :/
[22:26] <nacc> elico: well, that's rather rude of you to think. people do *plenty* of stuff
[22:26] <nacc> elico: maybe not in this particular bug
[22:26] <elico> nacc: nobody responded in the bug(talking about this one..)
[22:27] <sarnold> well, that's not exactly a good analogy.. loads of people do loads of stuff, and it's not a fixed pool of resources under competition. but still, it's soooo easy to Let Someone Else Handle That..
[22:27] <elico> I created a package for OpenSUSE but I am not so good with debian packages..
[22:28] <sarnold> heh rpms sure feel easy in comparison to debs
[22:28] <elico> for me... maybe someone that worked a lot with deb's feels better with it..
[22:33] <elico> sarnold: where do I see the packages which are in community compared to others and if others then in which it belongs?
[22:34] <sarnold> elico: if you run apt-cache show iptstate one of the lines output is Filename: pool/universe/i/iptstate/iptstate_2.2.5-1build1_amd64.deb
[22:34] <sarnold> elico: the 'universe' there means that package is community supported
[22:34] <elico> sarnold: OK thanks!
[22:34] <elico> sarnold: are you from the server team?
[22:34] <sarnold> elico: no, security team
[22:36] <elico> If I will show you how I am building my DEB's you will find it "un-orthodox"
[22:37] <sarnold> probably, no two people build their debs the same way :)
[22:39] <elico> sarnold: You haven't seen mine... it's one of the most amazing ways to create a deb.
[22:39] <elico> http://gogs.ngtech.co.il/elicro/squid-debian-deb-build
[22:40] <elico> ..The Makefile..
[22:43] <sarnold> elico: hahah :) I can confirm I've never seen a Makefile to build debs quite like this one before :)
[22:47] <elico> sarnold: I had a talk with Amos the squid-cache project manager and he created a deb file for debian and ubunutu.
[22:47] <elico> He has a really nice one. Now I wanted to provide a package but after reading the DEB guide and book more then three times I got tired and tried this recipe and it appears that my server got hit hard because of it so I had to start QOS the traffic.
[23:39] <nacc> ahasenack: was your backtrace with g-u review of cpaelzer's MP: ValueError: Not sure how to decompose 0ubuntu13.1.22: series 1 not in expected format
[23:40] <nacc> ?
[23:40] <nacc> ahasenack: if so, can you file a bug for it? it means our version deduction alogrithm needs to be made more flexible
[23:53] <keithzg> Are there any prefab LAN search engines out there? I basically just want a local network version of Google/DuckDuckGo to help users with our sprawling set of different web services at the office (wiki, bugtracker, client database, doxygen, etc etc). I would have thought someone would have written something, but my google-fu appears to be failing...
[23:54] <sarnold> keithzg: tada https://enterprise.google.com/search/products/gsa.html
[23:56] <keithzg> sarnold: I guess to be picky I should stipulate that I was hoping for something FOSS-licensed, but uhh also apparently it's being discontinued?
[23:56] <sarnold> ah
[23:56] <keithzg> http://fortune.com/2016/02/04/google-ends-search-appliance/
[23:57] <keithzg> So I couldn't even get one purchased for the office if I wanted to!
[23:58] <keithzg> So far the "best" option seems to be hacking together something myself with Apache Nutch + Solr or ElasticSearch


[14:47] <alo21> hi all.. I would like to fix bug #1085355
[14:47] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1085355 in Package Descriptions for Ubuntu "Typo in lxsession-edit package description" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085355
[14:47] <alo21> in which package I should fix the typo?
[14:48] <alo21> one is lxsession-edit, the other?


 I'm trying to PXE boot 12.04 from LAN
[07:41] <makara> I setup DNSMASQ with TFTP to provide the ISO
[07:41] <makara> It loads the ISO and setup asks what language and some other steps, but then it gives error
[07:42] <makara> can't find the CD-ROM
[09:02] <MannerMan> Does anyone have experience with spacewalk as central patch management for Ubuntu? Landscape looks really nice however since it comes via Ubuntu Advantage program its really expensive
[09:03] <MannerMan> got around 90 machines to manage
[09:09] <TJ-> You should look at similar tools like Puppet, Chef, Salt, Ansible, cobbler
[09:22] <MannerMan> TJ-: Already got puppet going
[09:22] <MannerMan> however ensure => latest is not what i'm looking for really
[09:24] <MannerMan> Puppet is great for config management but its not great at managing patches in a sane way
[09:31]  * maxb is using the simple approach: collect "apt-get -qqs dist-upgrade" from each machine, feed it through some simple analysis scripts
[09:34] <TJ-> MannerMan: what do you mean by 'patches' ? OS package upgrades? Custom packages?
[09:36] <MannerMan> TJ-, OS upgrades, we run a PHP based webapplication, so nginx/php/postgres patches are very important to us
[09:36] <MannerMan> we must make sure that all machines have the same application stack, version wise
[09:37] <TJ-> Well "patch" has a very specific meaning, as in a source-code diff fed to the 'patch' tool. OS binary package upgrades are not patches (on Debian/Ubuntu) they're complete replacement packages... the terminology was confusing me a bit
[09:38] <MannerMan> TJ-, I see, sorry to have caused confusion
[09:39] <MannerMan> Maybe package upgrades is a better termiology
[09:40] <TJ-> Yeah :)  I also get annoyed with Debian's apt terminology - we talk about 'updating' packages but we use "apt-get upgrade" ... but we use "upgrades" to mean change between releases!
[09:41] <MannerMan> TJ-: It's a mess :P
[09:42] <MannerMan> Anyways, the spacewalk way of putting the entire package-upgrade process in one place, where one can get an overview and trigger upgrades for several machines is exactly what I'm after
[09:43] <MannerMan> It's debian/ubuntu compability seems to be lacking though
[09:43] <TJ-> Surely Puppet's configuration management does the same thing?
[09:44] <TJ-> That's what MCollective is about - orchestration
[09:45] <MannerMan> Not that I know of, you can in your puppet module specify to ensure the latest package to be installed, but you have no idea when updates are available, what they change etc
[09:45] <TJ-> http://puppetlabs.com/mcollective
[09:53] <MannerMan> TJ-, I suppose you could use this to collect available upgrades and then trigger the update process with puppet, will check it out
[10:42] <gnuoy> Hi, I've fired up a couple of machines in an openstack cloud using precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1 and cloud-init is failing: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6953779/
[10:43] <gnuoy> I'm getting the same failure when using an image from 20140113 and 20140217
[10:46] <gnuoy> hang on, I see more info in cloud-init-output.log , looks like a problem accessing juju-tools, sorry for the noise
[12:28] <jamespage> rbasak, your resync commits for mysql-5.5 look good to me - I'm just test building now
[12:29] <rbasak> jamespage: thanks! With FF coming up, I was just going to upload the Ubuntu merge anyway. If you can do a Debian release for me to rebase against, that would be great.
[12:29] <jamespage> rbasak, how much delta is left after that?
[12:30] <rbasak> jamespage: very little. Off the top of my head: apport, upstart, and the debhelper postrm token thing (upstart needs the debhelper postrm token thing)
[13:23] <hxm> someone know an alternative to jira by atlassian opensource?
[13:29] <RealKillaz> Hi There..
[14:45] <MannerMan> hxm; http://www.bugzilla.org/
[14:48] <rbasak> zul: do you have a minute, and if so, could you please upload a no-change rebuild to php-json for me? I don't have upload rights. I've emailed the DMB to have it added to the server set, but I guess that'll take a while.
[14:48] <zul> rbasak:  or i could sign it and upload for you :)
[14:49] <rbasak> zul: sure. I have it right here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6954730/
[14:49] <rbasak> zul: or do you want changes file etc somewhere?
[14:49] <zul> rbasak:  please
[15:09] <rbasak> zul: that broke things, sorry. I'll handle it (or rather Colin, in #ubuntu-devel)
[15:09] <jamespage> rbasak, I've committed your sync changes to the mysql-5.5 repo - thanks
[15:09] <rbasak> jamespage: thanks!
[15:09] <jamespage> I'll ping SpamapS to discuss a release this week if possible
[15:10] <zul> rbasak:  greeeeeat
[15:10] <rbasak> zul: it's an awkward dependency loop
[15:33] <hxm> MannerMan: thanks
[15:46] <zul> rbasak:  ftbfs as well
[15:50] <rbasak> zul: yup - that's the issue. It's a circular dependency. Colin will take care of it with a bootstrap archive - AIUI, there's nothing I can do.
[15:51] <caribou> jamespage: FYI, I won't make it to the weekly meeting, sorry for that
[15:51] <caribou> jamespage: but I don't have anything on my side
[15:51] <jamespage> caribou, ok
[15:58] <rbasak> jamespage: SpamapS: feature freeze being on Thursday, I want to upload a mysql-5.5 merge to Ubuntu before then. A Debian release today or tomorrow would be nice. If not, then I can just keep the delta. Thoughts?
[16:00] <jamespage> rbasak, pinged SpamapS on #debian-mysql as well
[16:00] <arosales> jamespage, looks like I may be up to host the meeting this week again as I didn't send minutes
[16:00]  * arosales fail
[16:00] <rbasak> Thanks. Sorry - I don't have OFTC on auto-connect/join.
[16:00] <jamespage> arosales, I noticed
[16:09] <xerxas> Hi all ! is there a way to configure PS1 system wide ?
[16:10] <xerxas> I think skel overrides PS1, but I'm not sure
[16:10] <xerxas> so /etc/profile.d , doesn't work ...
[16:10] <jamespage> zul, is dovecot mean't to use the snakeoil certs? its not right now (and in 12.04)
[16:10] <zul> jamespage:  afaik yes
[16:11] <zul> jamespage:  s/afaik/iirc/g :)
[16:30] <rickbeldin> caribou: you still here?
[16:33] <rickbeldin> If I make a change to /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf on precise (12.04), do I need to rebuild the ramfs to use it?
[16:36] <TJ-> rickbeldin: No
[16:36] <TJ-> rickbeldin: Changes under /etc/initamfs-tools/  ... yes
[16:37] <rickbeldin> TJ: Thanks.  The option I am trying to set in hpsa.conf will change the behavior of the disk controller for the disk used by root.
[16:38] <TJ-> rickbeldin: I'm not sure how you deal with that, actually!
[16:39] <rickbeldin> On RHEL, I would just modify the conf file, rebuild initramfs.
[16:40] <TJ-> yeah, in the initrd image there's "/conf/modules" ... just can't remember seeing the hooks that write to it
[16:46] <rickbeldin> TY:  Tore apart initrd and it has the hpsa file, but it is empty.  Grrr.
[16:46] <jamespage> coreycb, hey - do you want to chat about that rename?
[16:47] <coreycb> jamespage, yeah probably a good idea
[16:47] <rickbeldin> TY: and I accidentally deleted the contents. ;)
[16:47] <jamespage> coreycb, this is probably a good place to start
[16:47] <jamespage> https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package
[16:48] <jamespage> coreycb, debcheckout -a neutron will get you the right branch to work on as well
[16:49] <coreycb> jamespage, great thanks
[16:50] <LeMike> ab -A user:password is to login in a site using htpasswd. but I don't want to have my password in the history or shown somehow in the shell. how to avoid that?
[16:50] <coreycb> jamespage, it looks like neutron and the corresponding charm will need the update?
[16:51] <jamespage> coreycb, yeah - the charm probably does need some work - but charm renames are not really supported
[16:51] <jamespage> renames on upgrade that is
[16:51] <jamespage> lets nail the packaging first, then workout the charm details
[16:51] <jamespage> NVP -> NSX I suspect
[16:51] <coreycb> jamespage, sounds good
[17:06] <caribou> rickbeldin: I'm here
[17:16] <rickbeldin> caribou:  2.6.32 doesn't boot.  New failure mode with hpsa_simple_mode=1 and latest driver.  still no go.  If you have packages for me to try, I can do it.
[17:16] <caribou> rickbeldin: yeah, saw your comment
[17:16] <roadmr> Hello ubuntu-server people. We're looking at removing checkbox (checkbox-cli package) from the ubuntu server image for several reasons. I'd like to ask if anybody has objections about this (or really any other comment about it)
[17:28] <LeMike> got it now. simple one :) https://github.com/sourcerer-mike/shell-files/blob/master/usr/local/bin/abc
[18:38] <rostam> Hi I am using ubuntu 12.04. After sudden shutdown, I am not able to login. After entering the password, for a moment It seems I am in, but then it goes back to login shell. So I do not think the issue is password. Any help greatly appreiciated please? thx
[18:40] <sarnold> rostam: if you can't sort out anything else, you can boot into single user mode (add "single" to the kernel command line in grub) or if that doens't work, boot with init=/bin/sh  -- that'll give you a shell you can use to investigate and fix
[18:43] <rostam> sarnold,  how could I stop the boot at grub menu?
[18:43] <sarnold> rostam: maybe left shift? I forget..
[18:47] <rostam> sarnold that did it thanks so much
[20:31] <rostam> HI I have installed ubuntu 12.04. update 3 on my server. How do I upgrade to update 4? Thx
[20:31] <ikonia> is update 4 out yet ?
[20:32] <rostam> I think so I just download it. ubuntu-12.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[20:39] <ikonia> rostam: should auto update/offer the update when it hits your repo
[20:39] <ikonia> you won't see any "upgrade" just a few packages
[20:48] <rostam> ikonia, thanks
[21:36] <tomreyn> is systemd required on 13.10 to bring up network interfaces?
[21:37] <hxm> i added a crontab every 10 minutes and it is sending me an email every time the cron is executed
[21:37] <hxm> dafuq?
[21:37] <Pici> If the job sends something to stdout (and maybe stderr too?), it will get sent to the user that ran the job
[21:38] <tomreyn> hxm: standard behavior when there is output
[21:38] <bekks> Thats expected when you configured cron to send mails-
[21:38] <hxm> ah, then I forgot the >> /dev/nul no?
[21:38] <bekks>  /dev/null
[21:38] <hxm> yes
[21:38] <Pici> > /dev/null 2>&1
[21:39] <Pici> (unless of course, you want stderr output to get emailed to you)
[21:39] <hxm> the proper script sends me an email if needed so I guess I dont need the output
[21:40] <tomreyn> would one of you know about systemd + /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:40] <tomreyn> my problem here is that the interface i configured in /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth0 just doesn't seem to come up at boot.
[21:41] <tomreyn> but the system seems to boot up fine otherwise
[21:41] <tomreyn> there's no error message logged about being unable to bring it up
[21:42] <tomreyn> but i can't ping it, nor can it resolve its ntp host
[21:46] <roadmr> tomreyn: can you bring it up manually with 'ifup eth0'?
[21:46] <tomreyn> it's remote
[21:47] <tomreyn>  only have a netbooted recovery system + syslog to play with
[21:47] <tomreyn> i installed using debootstrap
[21:47] <roadmr> oops :/