[00:02] <nwidger> has anyone here bought a system from logicsupply.com?
[00:02] <Zinn> [logicsupply.com] Logic Supply - Leaders in Mini-ITX & Small Form Factor Solutions
[00:05] <rhpot1991> nope
[00:05] <rhpot1991> what system are you looking at?
[00:05] <rhpot1991> !frontend | nwidger
[00:05] <Zinn> nwidger: Ion Boxes make a great frontend.  http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/2
[00:05] <rhpot1991> might interest you
[00:06] <nwidger> rhpot1991: i was looking at this baby: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/ion_gs_l05
[00:06] <Zinn> [www.logicsupply.com] Logic Supply - Leaders in Mini-ITX & Small Form Factor Solutions
[00:06] <nwidger> rhpot1991: yeah i was looking at that, too
[00:07] <nwidger> rhpot1991: there isnt a big different in price so i was hoping to find some reviews
[00:07] <rhpot1991> nwidger: odds are they are the same hardware
[00:07] <rhpot1991> and you could go build your own if you wanted as well
[00:07] <nwidger> looks like it for the most part
[00:08] <rhpot1991> there is a nice antec mini-itx case on the market now
[00:11] <nwidger> rhpot1991: where?
[00:12] <rhpot1991> nwidger:
[00:12] <rhpot1991> 1,3, and 4
[00:12] <rhpot1991> different colors/power supplies
[00:12] <rhpot1991> crappy paste
[00:12] <rhpot1991> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=antec+mini-itx&x=0&y=0
[00:12] <Zinn> [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - antec mini-itx
[00:14] <nwidger> rhpot1991: thanks :
[00:14] <nwidger> :)
[00:15] <rhpot1991> nwidger: you can't go wrong with an ion frontend, they are great
[00:15] <nwidger> rhpot1991: yeah im seriously considering it now
[00:23] <nwidger> rhpot1991: are you running 32- or 64-bit ubuntu on your meerkat?
[00:24] <rhpot1991> 64 I believe, lets check that
[00:25] <rhpot1991> yep
[00:26] <nwidger> does flash run on 64-bit linux?
[00:26] <rhpot1991> yes
[00:26] <rhpot1991> I doubt the hulu desktop player would run very good on here though, if thats what you are getting at
[00:27] <nwidger> not hulu in general but being able to stream tv shows off the web every now and again would be nice :)
[08:36] <baalsgate> I have to personaly say that since upgrading to 9.10 my opionion of mythbuntu was good I have had so many problems since upgrading going from a working system to this crap i am very dissapointed
[08:45] <baalsgate> all this crap with nvidia drivers for one is a pain in the ass
[08:45] <Zinn> baalsgate: Please watch your language.
[08:47] <baalsgate> Zinn: that automated responce to what ? the word crap ?
[08:47] <Zinn> Hi baalsgate, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[08:47] <baalsgate> Zinn: that automated responce to what ? the word ass ?
[08:47] <Zinn> Hi baalsgate, something I can help you with today?   My sources.list for that look like http://pastebin.com/f364da472
[12:59] <gunni_>  Now i upgraded my laptop to lucid, and there mythfrontend has moved to 0.23. Now the database mismatches because of version. Is there a repo for karmic with 0.23 build to match lucid version? I want to wait a bit till i upgrade the backend to lucid.
[13:17] <gunni_> ok, found it myself: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.23/ubuntu karmic main
[13:17] <Zinn> [ppa.launchpad.net] Index of /mythbuntu/0.23/ubuntu
[13:18] <gunni_> Hehe, one second too late :)
[18:38] <yoyoned> I want to move /var/lib/mythtv to another drive.  I know of 2 way of doing that.  After cpoying the existing data to the new drive, I could mount the drive as /var/lib/mythtv or mount it in /media and symlink /var/lib/mythtv to the new drive.  Any advantages of either?
[21:15] <yoyoned>  I want to move /var/lib/mythtv to another drive.  I know of 2 way of doing that.  After cpoying the existing data to the new drive, I could mount the drive as /var/lib/mythtv or mount it in /media and symlink /var/lib/mythtv to the new drive.  Any advantages of either?
[22:03] <__Olli___> hi all
[22:04] <__Olli___> is anyone there, who had Mythbuntu 9.10 with an DVB-S Card running?
[22:05] <__Olli___> i can't scan for channels or import an channel.conf... but kaffeine is working fine


[11:16] <airurando> afternoon
[15:48] <shanem> I have a free ticket to PyCon in Dublin that I can't use if anyone wants it.
[15:48] <shanem> Bit of short notice on it though since it started today and finishes tomorrow.


[21:39] <zuxxed> can anyone help with ubuntu user accounts?
[21:39] <Avatar> hi, anyone know how to setup linpopup on 10.04?
[21:40] <parmpster> OK i just finished the update same problem i updated to 12.4
[21:40] <Franz218> thx i'll try it
[21:40] <theadmin> Alright, I'm having trouble with Midnight Commander. I've set default/* Open=nohup xdg-open %f, but MC still kills the opened app if I exit it
[21:40] <parmpster> i am so sorry 12.04 LTS
[21:41] <theadmin> (as in, exit MC)
[21:41] <parmpster> same problem
[21:41] <parmpster> and it works wonderfully in windows XP
[21:42] <parmpster> though it's VERY SLOW!
[21:42] <parmpster> is there any way in X to fix this problem?
[21:43] <zuxxed> I had to delete my password, now i still able to use ubuntu accept for using sudo. sudo tells me wrong pass on entering old one or blank
[21:43] <yeats> !fixsudo | zuxxed
[21:43] <yeats> !sudo | zuxxed
[21:44] <robertzaccour> Is the Xbox 360 or PS3 corded controllers compatible with the Ubuntu version of Steam?
[21:44] <contrapunctus> !gksudo
[21:44] <parmpster> serousally?
[21:44] <parmpster> sereousally?
[21:44] <contrapunctus> !cli
[21:44] <contrapunctus> !ubottu
[21:45] <zuxxed> still, i cannot use old pass for gksudo, sudo etc after i deleted it
[21:46] <parmpster> try using a new password
[21:46] <zuxxed> i got no option to create one
[21:47] <parmpster> have you tied to boot off a live CD and get it through there?
[21:47] <zuxxed> i even cannot log back to user accounts to set new one
[21:47] <gansbrest>  /msg NickServ identify binzobka
[21:47] <gansbrest>  /msg NickServ identify binzobak
[21:48] <Hilarie> Is there anyway to go back 2 directories at a time? ../bleh, to ../../diffbleh
[21:48] <robertzaccour> Is the Xbox 360 or PS3 corded controllers compatible with the Ubuntu version of Steam?
[21:48] <Hilarie> cd* should have been somewhere in there
[21:50] <Hilarie> gansbrest you know you need to change your pw now right?
[21:50] <Jok3rT> ciao a tutti
[21:50] <Jok3rT> !list
[21:52] <jmnoz> has anyone solved the problem of watching full screen flash on a secondary (extended desktop) monitor positioned to the right of the other screen? (having different resolutions on the two screens)
[21:56] <robertzaccour> Is the Xbox 360 or PS3 corded controllers compatible with the Ubuntu version of Steam?
[21:56] <gansbrest> Hilarie: thanks, I will
[21:58] <anton_eh> is there a package that activates the panel for indicators and applets in gnome classic in 12.04??
[21:59] <ChogyDan> jmnoz: don't forget to try chrome's pepper flash
[22:00] <jmnoz> ChogyDan: that's a good idea, thanks
[22:02] <gansbrest>  /msg Nick
[22:07] <theadmin> anton_eh: What?
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> anton_eh, Take a look here and look on the ubunut forums and or ask this question there as well, many there use the fallback classic. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks#Indicator_Applets
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> anton_eh,I don't use the classic so I cannot vouch for anything, lol. ;)
[22:12] <Kircle> Does Linux support crossfire for two sapphire Radeon HD5750's?
[22:13] <m3pow> Hello guys !
[22:13] <m3pow> why can't i change the server in the software sources from Main to the ones that it finds to be the most suited
[22:13] <m3pow> or is there any other way to change it
[22:13] <m3pow> :)
[22:13] <anton_eh> thanks wilee-nilee
[22:14] <murat> murat yldirim
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> anton_eh, No problem. ;)
[22:14] <mindcode> someone here with c socket programming skills? (its a simple question)
[22:15] <theadmin> mindcode: Try ##c
[22:15] <mindcode> the channel?
[22:15] <theadmin> mindcode: Yeah
[22:15] <mindcode> okay
[22:15] <m3pow> no ideea on the server change issue ? it did work a couple of weeks ago
[22:17] <theadmin> m3pow: You can edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually with your favorite text editor, choose the appropriate mirror and replace the URLs with it
[22:17] <mindcode> ... 100 of users, and all sleeping :-/
[22:18] <m3pow> great, thanks theadmin!
[22:19] <utree> join ##c
[22:20] <iUnify> ok guys, im in a mess here
[22:20] <iUnify> ive been coming in the past few days asking questions about getting a system problem
[22:20] <iUnify> im using Audacity a lot to record music, my files (after HOURS of work) continually become corrupt after the system freezes.
[22:21] <ddssc> got a problem with display drivers in ubuntu. says Drive Unknown in the details. also can't use any hdmi monitors. graph card nvidi g525m. which driver should I get?
[22:21] <ddssc> also got intel integrated, if I could use that instead, would be dandy.
[22:22] <jmnoz> ChogyDan: pepper flash doesn't seem to have the problem with display scaling. It still will exit the fullscreen mode as soon I move the mouse cursor to the second screen unfortunately.
[22:22] <anton_eh> gratitude as always
[22:23] <iUnify> Al I'm looking for is getting Ubuntu running smooth.... so done with windows, loving Ubuntu, but, I've had noting but trouble thus far.  If I could get myself to a place where i can record without these issues, i'd be a happy camper.  thanks.  oh, already did a full reinstall TWICE.  Same thing each time, system problem reported.  than using audacity makes it freeze after awhile.... i7 2.20ghz 8 gigs ram
[22:23] <iUnify> ubuntu 64b
[22:25] <Pyro_Killer> I tried installing ubuntu 12.10 x64 through wubi (there are complications) and i have gotten this far:
[22:25] <Pyro_Killer> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/12/install-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-in-windows-8-using-wubi/
[22:25] <Pyro_Killer> then i just the error when trying to boot:
[22:25] <Pyro_Killer> File: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr Status: 0xc000007b
[22:29] <chamunks> !jenkins
[22:30] <chamunks> anyone know anything about how jenkins works with apache vhosts?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Pyro_Killer, Do you have uefi setup?
[22:45] <W4RH4WK> got a
[22:46] <bray90820> Anyone know of a touch friendly app such a gwibber
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> Pyro_Killer, http://askubuntu.com/questions/225048/is-wubi-for-windows-8
[22:47] <W4RH4WK> got a raid question over here, i just setup (hardware) raid 5 on a computer and now i'm installing ubuntu. when it asks me about partitioning i see 4 hard drives (all 4 are the raid 5 array) is that correct i thought i'd only see one big partition
[22:47] <W4RH4WK> i know the difference between raid 5 and raid 0, just asking if that's how it's suppose to be
[22:48] <ddssc> is there a way to have hdmi monitor  working on an optimus nvidia/intel laptop?
[22:50] <mhough> I have a problem with libgoogle-glog-dev on precise
[22:50] <mhough> anyone have time to help explain its removal?
[22:51] <sybian> hi
[22:51] <sybian> i got a prblem i can't play howard stern show
[22:52] <mhough> its says libgoogle-glog-dev was requested removed because of qa
[22:52] <mhough> but the bug listed is a gem problem which must be wrong right?
[22:52] <Evansch0> hi
[22:52] <ddssc> sybian, have yout tried john stewart?
[22:52] <sybian> what?
[22:52] <Evansch0> im having some trouble with mono :/
[22:52] <sybian> i tried andy kaufman
[22:52] <mhough> libgoogle-glog-dev is a C++ package
[22:52] <ddssc> sybian, the john stewart show, check it out.
[22:53] <sybian> ddssc: yeah its a weird codec maybe
[22:54] <Evansch0> would anyone be able to help me with the error i get on my terminal when i type "mono Terraria.exe"   (the error i get is "(mono:13579): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"")
[22:55] <Evansch0> anyone seen this error before?
[22:56] <Ryan_> Hello everyone, I'm new to Ubuntu and I had a question regarding my new Private folder not asking for a password when attempting to access it.
[22:56] <Evansch0> are you logged in under the account you created it from?
[22:56] <Ryan_> Yes.
[22:56] <Evansch0> that might be why
[22:57] <Evansch0> :/
[22:57] <Evansch0> not too sure
[22:57] <Evansch0> did you password protect it?
[22:57] <Evansch0> :/
[22:57] <ViaNocturna85> yeah, if you try to access it from another user account it should not allow you to access it
[22:57] <Ryan_> Yes.  But I don't receive a prompt.
[22:58] <sybian> shaka when the walls fell
[22:58] <Evansch0> Ryan_: i found you a site :)
[22:58] <Ryan_> Is that why?  I don't use any other accounts, but I have financial information etc that I don't want being accessed from my account.
[22:58] <ViaNocturna85> Ryan_: do you want a file or folder to be password protected even in your own home?
[22:59] <Ryan_> Yes, in my own home.
[22:59] <Evansch0> Ryan_: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/create-a-private-password-protected-folder-in-ubuntu-11-10-12-04/
[22:59] <ViaNocturna85> Ryan_: look into Cryptkeeper
[22:59] <Evansch0> Ryan_: that should help
[22:59] <Pyro_Killer> ccrypt?
[23:00] <Evansch0> also
[23:00] <sybian> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[23:00] <ViaNocturna85> i do it the old lazy way...put a dot in front of it XD
[23:00] <Evansch0> Ryan_: you have to logout or restart you computer for the password protection to apply
[23:01] <Pyro_Killer> ViaNocturna85 ,  no, just no, it is bad practice and you know it
[23:01] <bray90820> Anyone know of an app like gwibber that is touch friendly
[23:01] <Evansch0> ...
[23:01] <ViaNocturna85> Pyro_Killer: yeah but since my HDD is encrypted and nobody ever uses my laptop, im not too worried
[23:02] <Evansch0> so can anyone help me with my mono error?
[23:02] <Ryan__> I have Cryptkeeper but it never launches.  I've tried looking up solutions but I'm confused by them, as I've never used Linux before.
[23:02] <ViaNocturna85> bray90820: try 'friends'...although i think thats only 12.10/13.04 though
[23:02] <Pyro_Killer> But telling someone who clearly hasn't encrypted their HDD too just use dot method is not right
[23:02] <sybian> temba his arms wide
[23:02] <bray90820> ViaNocturna85: does it have touch scrolling
[23:03] <ViaNocturna85> Pyro_Killer: I didnt say that, i said that I do it the old lazy way, I told him about Cryptkeeper
[23:03] <ddssc> Evansch0, have you tried #mono ?
[23:03] <Evansch0> oh
[23:03] <Evansch0> :/
[23:03] <Evansch0> no
[23:05] <Pyro_Killer> why does wubi not have an IRC
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Pyro_Killer: 'Cuz it's going down the drain
[23:06] <Pyro_Killer> well it just got "support" for windows 8
[23:06] <Pyro_Killer> though it doesn't work
[23:06] <SonikkuAmerica> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-unlikely-to-be-in-ubuntu-13-04-windows-users-lose-out
[23:07] <Pyro_Killer> this makes me sad
[23:08] <tgm4883> wubi should have died long ago
[23:08] <tgm4883> it was a feeble attempt at making it easy for users to test out Ubuntu. The problem is that it did a poor job (performance wise) at it
[23:08] <Pyro_Killer> another question then, is there a way to make a "installer usb pen" for ubuntu with usb 3.0 support?
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> Pyro_Killer, The designer of wubi stated themselves that it was a tryout method, no wubi installs in a UEFI setup as well.
[23:09] <Evansch0_> :/
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> The first indication of Wubi saying sayõnara was when knome said "No support for Xubuntu"
[23:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Grr... sayounara then
[23:10] <anonymous024> How safe do you all think text-based browsers are? More or less prone to malware than popular browsers like firefox?
[23:10] <harris>  how do i use wicd-curses
[23:10] <Evansch0_> anyone heard of mono error                         (mono:13727): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[23:10] <Pyro_Killer> well it got installed, and got added to the boot list of windows, it just threw an error, it got updated like 2 weeks ago
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> !av | anonymous024
[23:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Evansch0_: You do know what Mono is, right?
[23:11] <Evansch0_> yes
[23:11] <Evansch0_> i do
[23:11] <ViaNocturna85> Evansch0_: try this command: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> Pyro_Killer, http://askubuntu.com/questions/225048/is-wubi-for-windows-8
[23:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, looks like the pixel mapper done got busted.
[23:12] <Evansch0_> pixel mapper?
[23:13] <ViaNocturna85> Evansch0_: on launchpad people with the same error report that package fixed it
[23:13] <Evansch0_> oh
[23:13] <Evansch0_> ok
[23:13] <Evansch0_> thx
[23:13] <ViaNocturna85> Evansch0_: np
[23:13] <Evansch0_> lets try terraria startup again
[23:14] <Evansch0_> FUDGE
[23:14] <Evansch0_> another error >:|
[23:14] <Evansch0_> (mono:14662): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks"
[23:14] <ViaNocturna85> Evansch0_: which error?
[23:14] <harris> no one knows?
[23:15] <Evansch0_> stupid errors xD
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> Pyro_Killer, Some have to use wubi for various reasons I support that, however it has limitations is all, and is not part of the next release. There is only one helper at the ubuntu forums that has any real skills with it, and is here on occasion.
[23:16] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: really, wubi is being removed?
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, yeah.
[23:16] <Pyro_Killer> wilee-nilee i see my problem has been posted everywhere, i am honestly thinking that it is an issue that has not been resolved
[23:16] <alainus> how do I install a .deb package and automatically install all dependencies ?
[23:17] <ViaNocturna85> alainus: install gdebi
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> plains, I use gdebi it will added them if available.
[23:17] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: thanks
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> np
[23:17] <Gfelis> I have a small problem with a USB printer over 12.10. When i connnect the USB it does not create the device, can any one help please? thank you.
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> alainus: You can also do [ sudo dpkg -i $PACKAGE ] then do [ sudo apt-get -yf install ]
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> Gfelis, Have you brought up printer and looked for the driver
[23:18] <zykotick9> alainus: the alternative, not using gdebi, is install the deb with dpkg, then run "sudo apt-get -f install" to pull in the dependencies.
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> (I call it the "yeff-install")
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: Gotcha covered.
[23:19] <Evansch0> so ViaNocturna85: seen that error b4?
[23:19] <anonymous024> wilee-nilee: I hear that XSS is still a problem on linux, which is why people use programs like no-script with firefox. I'd wonder if that would be an issue on a text based browser.
[23:19] <Evansch0> (mono:14662): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks"    <---- anyone seen this error b4?
[23:20] <Gfelis> no, it does not show a linux ubuntu driver, but it has a linux redhat driver..
[23:20] <CFenix> hi everyone, I have a clean Lubuntu 12.04 installation and Chromium is giving me an Error with FLash "Could not load Shockwave FLash", i did some search and i found that there's a problem with the file " PepperFlash" wish for some reason i do not have, so i don't know how to fix this problem, thank you for your time
[23:21] <zykotick9> anonymous024: most text based browsers lack javascript... i believe elinks supports it a bit (it allows gmail logins anyways)
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> anonymous024, I would not use a text browser personally, I use FF with that add on and a few others, but that's me. ;)
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> not necessarily for security but ease of use
[23:22] <Pyro_Killer> links can do javascript the last time i checked
[23:22] <Pyro_Killer> but ff with noscript usually does the job
[23:22] <Evansch0> CFenix: chromium-browser --ppapi-flash-path=/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so --ppapi-flash-version=<IP_ADDRESS>3    <--- try this in your commandline
[23:25] <Evansch0> CFenix:  did that help?
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> CFenix, You might check the source of your chromium I don't believe it is really maintained the last sable ppa was updated 11 months 3 weeks ago, I would just run chrome of the two.
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> stable*
[23:27] <maely> hi!
[23:30] <Evansch0> whenever i try to install gtk ubuntulooks in the terminal it says "Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package gtk2-engines-human-theme"
[23:31] <Evansch0> woops
[23:31] <Evansch0> wrong one xD
[23:31] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: Have ou tried running sudo apt-get update first?
[23:31] <Evansch0> no :/
[23:31] <Evansch0> running it right now
[23:31] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: If the theme still exists in the repos, that should fix it.
[23:32] <Evansch0> oh ok
[23:32] <Evansch0> i will tell you if that works KatsumeBlisk
[23:33] <Evansch0> no it doesnt exist
[23:34] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:34] <Evansch0> 12.04
[23:34] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: Unity?
[23:34] <Evansch0> heres what it did say when i tried installing ubuntulooks with the terminal
[23:34] <Evansch0> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it:   human-theme  E: Package 'gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks' has no installation candidate
[23:34] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: Have you tried installig human-theme?
[23:35] <Evansch0> says it doesnt exist
[23:35] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: ubuntulooks has been deprecated because Unity doesn't use GTK2 anymore
[23:35] <Evansch0> oh :/
[23:35] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: According to that line, human-theme replaced it.
[23:35] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: Have you tried installing human-theme itself?
[23:35] <Evansch0> what command shall i use then
[23:35] <Evansch0> to install that
[23:36] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: "sudo apt-get install human-theme"
[23:36] <Evansch0> installing
[23:36] <Evansch0> *listens to elevator music*
[23:36] <Evansch0> xD
[23:36] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: What are you trying to accomplish with this?
[23:36] <Evansch0> running terraria
[23:36] <Pyro_Killer> or ditch the whole thing and use cinnnamon, or xfce, or kde
[23:37] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: This probably won't fix that. Why does Terraria require GTK2?
[23:37] <Evansch0> but i am using mono
[23:37] <Evansch0> no idea
[23:37] <Evansch0> so :/
[23:37] <Pyro_Killer> if you install gnome-shell i think that will install gtk2
[23:37] <Pyro_Killer> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[23:37] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: Sorry if I'm not much help
[23:38] <KatsumeBlisk> Pyro_Killer: GTK2 is deprecated
[23:38] <Evansch0> installing
[23:38] <KatsumeBlisk> Pyro_Killer: and that doesn't make the engine he wants to install in the repos
[23:38] <KatsumeBlisk> Evansch0: You're installing a whole new DE.
[23:38] <Evansch0> ...
[23:39] <Evansch0> what do i install then
[23:41] <Evansch0> ...
[23:41] <Evansch0> i guess i install nothing
[23:41] <KatsumeBlisk> !repeat | Evansch0
[23:41] <Pyro_Killer> Evansch0 is you entire goal to run terraira in ubuntu?
[23:41] <Evansch0> yes
[23:41] <Evansch0> that is my goal
[23:42] <Evansch0> sounded easy at first
[23:42] <Pyro_Killer> have you patched it`?
[23:42] <Evansch0> now its a pain in the A$$
[23:42] <Evansch0> no idea how Pyro_Killer
[23:43] <harris>  how do i use wicd-curses
[23:43] <Pyro_Killer> harris: it's just a library
[23:43] <Evansch0> you know how to patch it Pyro_Killer
[23:43] <Evansch0> ?
[23:43] <harris> to connect to wifi from terminal
[23:44] <Pyro_Killer> one sec, i'll try abnd do it myself
[23:45] <harris> Pyro_Killer, to connect to wifi from terminal
[23:47] <Noskcaj> are there now 2 nexus 7 images or has the original been discontinued
[23:47] <Ambrose> Hi I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 desktop and when it boots up the menu (start menu) is missing, I can still see the clock/wifi/sound icons but just the start menu is missing. I already tried removing the .compiz files and .Xauthority and restarting but that didn't fix it. Anyone know what else to check? Thx.
[23:48] <Pinkamena_D> So I have a new hard drive, and 3 disks: backtrack, ubuntu, and winxp. What is the smoothest way to install 3 side by side?
[23:49] <KatsumeBlisk> Pinkamena_D: Install XP, then one Linux distro, then another.
[23:49] <Pinkamena_D> last one you install will boot first?
[23:50] <KatsumeBlisk> Pinkamena_D: Depends on how you set it up. Install XP first though. Windows doesn't like other OSes.
[23:50] <Pinkamena_D> you got that right
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> Noskcaj, you might want the #ubuntu-touch channel for nexus installs there is the touch and the raring desktop install.
[23:51] <Noskcaj> wilee-nilee, thanks, i forgot about that channel
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, Install XP first then ubuntu, we don't support backtrack, however XP first is the important part.
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, If your going to multi-boot you want to be familiar with reloading bootloaders to the mbr if it is a msdos mbr setup.
[23:54] <nat_> have a huge question to ask..i'm wish to make ubuntu where i do not have sudo/sudoers.d files on it at all, with a named account that has full access to the entire system, is this possible? i know debian can do it
[23:56] <KatsumeBlisk> nat_: Ubuntu doesn't have the root account, but that's because it can be dangerous.
[23:56] <KatsumeBlisk> nat_: Why do you want it?
[23:56] <KatsumeBlisk> nat_: You can use "sudo su" for a temp "root"
[23:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you install from an expert install, you can create an ubuntu install with a root user that can be logged in to.
[23:56] <nat_> i understand all this, but i'm wishing to make a system that has a root account
[23:57] <nat_> don't need a temp root access, wishing user to have full blown access to system
[23:57] <nat_> is there any way to install the "root" account?
[23:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> All you do is make an admin account and use sudo in terminal
[23:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's the way it is, and always will be.
[23:58] <nat_> i'm already part of admin account/group and still using sudo in terminal, i wish to be dangerous in linux with no sudo
[23:58] <jamesaepp> Greetings! I noticed my hard drive was about 66% full for no apparent reason (I don't have 500GB of movies :P) So I did sudo du -h | grep G and found /var/lib/mlocate.db.e1GYsY to be almost 600GB!!! Is it safe to delete this file?
[23:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you install from an expert minimal install, you can set root to be logged into by you.
[23:58] <KatsumeBlisk> nat_: Remove the password requirement for sudo for that user. RUnning sudo in front of every command would essentially do what you want.
[23:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't think you can change that after an install is done without a root user.
[23:59] <jamesaepp> nat_ : I use sudo su


[11:57] <gst568923> wpa-supplicant on ubuntu 19.04 not support PMF `Activation: (wifi) couldn't build wireless configuration: 802-11-wireless-security: Supplicant does not support PMF`
[12:15] <gst568923> --> wpa-supplicant on ubuntu 19.04 not support PMF (Protected Management Frame)?


[00:01] <YokoZar> Woo, I can now set daily builds to 0.4 recipe version!  ....that crashes bzr before build :(
[00:01] <YokoZar> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/89179259/buildlog.txt.gz
[00:06] <spm> phillw: top right hand corner of the bug "Convert to a question"; unsure how widespread the access to do that is tho
[13:00] <rick_h__> Topic for #launchpad: Help contact: rick_h | https://launchpad.net | Launchpad is open source | This channel is logged
[16:08] <deryck> adeuring, rick_h_-- I've got IRC now.
[16:08] <adeuring> deryck: ok, thanks
[16:08] <rick_h__> deryck: ty
[16:57] <psusi> say, is anything in the works to make the Opinion status actually usefull?
[16:58] <deryck> psusi, no.  but it's usefulness or lack thereof is a matter of, well, opinion. :)
[16:58] <Resistance> xD
[16:58] <psusi> I would very much like to be able to use it
[16:58] <deryck> I could it be made useful for you?
[16:58] <psusi> currently it isn't useful beacuse it is just equivalent to invalid... it would be nice if that were not the case
[16:58] <deryck> s/I/could/
[16:59] <deryck> gah, fail on my typing.
[16:59] <Resistance> i disagree with you psusi...
[16:59] <psusi> here's an example: bug #776422
[16:59] <deryck> psusi, yeah, there are people who want it to be an open status not a closed status.  ut just wasn't designed that way.
[16:59] <Resistance> i read "Invalid" as someone thinking something's a bug when it really isnt
[17:00] <Resistance> i read "Opinion" as the opinion of someone who wants current functionality fixed to be different
[17:00] <psusi> this isn't a bug since it is really a broken bios, but people having the same issue and searching for a known bug should be able to find that bug report and see the workaround
[17:00]  * Resistance uses that format on more than one project
[17:00] <psusi> Resistance: how you read it != what it actually does
[17:00] <deryck> yeah, Opinion is meant to be shorthand for "we have a difference of opinion here, and I need to close the bug and move on to other work."
[17:00] <Resistance> show me documentation that states what it actually does then :P
[17:00] <Resistance> oic
[17:01] <psusi> deryck: right... so the developer doesn't want to see the bug any more.. but users searching should still find it as it may be useful to them
[17:01] <deryck> that's a different issue.  maybe closed bugs should turn up by default in search results? (I'm not sure they do, just saying it's a different issue than making opinion useful.)
[17:02] <psusi> Resistance: what it actually does is the exact same thing as invalid, which makes it kind of pointless ;)
[17:02] <brendand> Opinion is used wrongly in that bug
[17:02] <psusi> what I'm saying is that there should be a distinction between invalid and opinion, rather than just classifying them both as "closed"
[17:03] <psusi> brendand: why do you say that?
[17:04] <psusi> it seems to me that having one "closed" status that users still can easily find, but is hidden from the normal bug list so that it doesn't distract devs would be useful
[17:04] <brendand> because if the problem is in the bios then it's not a bug
[17:05] <psusi> brendand: exactly, that's why it is in a closed state ( which opinion is )
[17:05] <brendand> if it's not a bug then it's Invalid (also a closed state)
[17:06] <psusi> brendand: right, but why have opinion if it is == invalid.. make it slightly different so it has a useful purpose
[17:06] <brendand> psusi - Opinion doesn't equal Invalid (although I have to say I'm not a fan of opinion)
[17:07] <psusi> brendand: while that isn't a bug, it IS a problem that is likely to affect people, and it has useful information for people affected by it, so it would be very useful if it still showed up in text search results, but was hidden from the bug list
[17:07] <psusi> brendand: how is it at all different from invalid?
[17:08] <brendand> Opinion should be used when changing the way something works, not when there is a failure such as in this bug
[17:08] <psusi> no, that's a wishlist priority triaged bug
[17:08] <brendand> isn't it all as clear as day :)
[17:09] <psusi> if you marked a request to change the way something works with opinion, it would never get changed because opinion is de facto invalid...
[17:09] <brendand> Wishlist is *supposed* to be for 'nice-to-haves' and new features
[17:09] <psusi> right
[21:15] <markjones> Is Malone a codename for the bugs part of Launchpad?
[21:15] <tumbleweed> yes
[21:21] <sinzui> markjones, it *was* a code name, as was rosetta for Translations. We remove the references in the code when we can. We use "Launchpad Bugs" when we talk about the bug tracker
[21:21] <markjones> Thanks
[21:22] <markjones> i just came across the codename in a presentation


[07:00] <RAOF> Huh. What has caused https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/kinetic/update_excuses.html#mir to leave old riscv and s390x binaries behind?
[07:01] <seb128> RAOF, NBS binaries are not autocleaned, so my guess would be whoever did a NBS round did it before the new version had built on those archs yet
[07:01] <RAOF> Those binaries are indeed not built by the new package, but why only complain about riscv & s390x?
[07:02] <seb128> RAOF, on fact, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/2.7.0-0ubuntu4 explain it
[07:02] <seb128> that version only built on those architectures
[07:03] <RAOF> !!! I didn't notice that, because how would it only build there 🤪
[07:03] <seb128> RAOF, because we ignore test results on those archs?
[07:04] <seb128> RAOF, anyway, just clean the NBS binaries from proposed now :)
[07:04] <RAOF> Yeah, will do.
[07:05] <RAOF> Huh. I thought we ran wlcs on all (little-endian) archs. 🤷♀
[07:07] <RAOF> Oh! Does *launchpad* build with `DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck` on riscv?
[07:08] <RAOF> The More You Know!
[07:09] <seb128> RAOF, yes, since the arch was added, it would have make really difficult to start the port otherwise
[07:09] <RAOF> Fair!
[07:09] <cpaelzer> And it is already slow, might as well have been partially a capacity/speed reason
[07:10] <seb128> also I don't think we have the builders to keep up otherwise
[07:10] <seb128> what cpaelzer said
[07:47] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I've added the arguments/details I mentioned to 1890263 - let me know if that is enough to reconsider (we will re-upload to SRU queue then) or not (fine as well - keep it on Won't Fix but untag server-todo then)
[10:52] <mwhudson> actually focal was built with tests enabled for riscv, they were only disabled in gutsy (which makes for a surprise or two when SRUing things)


[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #45441 in xorg (main) "EXA in Kubuntu Dapper causes systray problems" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45441
[01:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #32877 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "Jumpy trackpad tracking" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32877
[01:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #15497 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[rv280]  panel doesn't always sync right after power off" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/15497
[08:12] <tepsipakki> crimsun: thanks for the libxcb upload :)
[08:12] <tepsipakki> a silly mistake
[08:16] <tepsipakki> ooh, xf86-video-nv 1.99.1 (2.0rc1)
[11:17] <crimsun> tepsipakki: np :)
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #42816 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[RV350]  Black screen (dup-of: 27466)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/42816
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #42157 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "login screen crashes" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/42157
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #45806 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "OpenGL acceleration glitch (only on dapper 64)" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45806
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #28976 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Xsession crashes when opening gdesklets" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/28976
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #41042 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "No Screen Resolution Adjustment Possible" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/41042
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #47371 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "[fglrx and Radeon 9200]  Can't start openoffice or blender after update to dapper" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47371
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #66178 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (main) "Update worked, until enable 3d" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66178
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88935 in Ubuntu "rendering slowness (dup-of: 88568)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88935
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #44897 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "nvidia-settings .desktop file" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44897
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #89189 in xorg (main) "No text in save/dialog boxes" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #21545 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[r100]  cursor glitches when scanline is being updated" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/21545
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #31918 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "ati radeon M6 LY dri needs driver reload to work" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/31918
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #38661 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "No direct rendering, Radeon IGP345M" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/38661
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #37675 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Setup video mode not supported by Dell LCD display" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/37675
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #46937 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "On resume from hibernate, 3d screensaver does not display correctly" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/46937
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90953 in xserver-xorg-video-sis (main) "sis651 vga problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90953
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90871 in xorg (main) "User must edit xorg.conf in order to modify synaptics settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90871
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90976 in xorg (main) "X fails to boot in regular installation of Herd 5" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90976
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #43293 in acpi-support (main) "Fn+F4 doesn't switch to ext monitor Compaq 4020us (all other Fn keys fine)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/43293
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #34435 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Cairo and ATI RENDER extension cause scrambled buttons in UbuntuLooks" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/34435
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #35829 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "Bad 3d acceleration in 915GM" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/35829
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #24927 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (universe) "Widescreen LCD resolution incorrect." [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/24927
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #90985 in mesa (main) "mesa s3tc support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90985


[04:05] <CRCinAU> Hi all, so I'm mucking around with netplan on Ubuntu 20.04.....
[04:05] <CRCinAU> I'm trying to figure out how to handle a USB ethernet adapter to want to do DHCP on it
[04:06] <CRCinAU> given the interface name seems to contain the MAC address, all I know is that it'll be called something like: enx<mac>
[04:06] <CRCinAU> how can I make a config statement to auto-set these up as DHCP?
[09:34] <LukasM[m]> CRCinAU: if you know the mac address, you can match it using that, e.g. via the "match.macaddress" setting. Then you can simply use "dhcp4: yes" and "dhcp6: yes" to enable DHCP
[09:34] <LukasM[m]> See https://netplan.io/reference/#common-properties-for-all-device-types
[09:35] <LukasM[m]> alternatively, you could match by driver, or by interface name (or a combination of all 3)
[09:36] <LukasM[m]> so you could for example also match on network.ethernets.usb-adapter.match.name="enx*"
[10:28] <CRCinAU> I'll be honest, I ended up just switching it to NetworkManager... For the USB ethernet parts - it just does what I wanted out of the box


[00:16] <Solarbaby> I really hate Lirc
[00:38] <Egghead2> sorry important phone call
[00:39] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone have their remote set to restart (or start) their frontend in xfce?
[00:40] <Solarbaby> Egghead2: I think I got it
[00:40] <Egghead2> Solarbaby, yes its driving me crazy, but it was a short drive, lol
[00:40] <Solarbaby> tgm4883_laptop: I'd like to do that..  I think that requires a irxevent but i dont know much about that just yet
[00:41] <Solarbaby> Egghead2: its controlling most buttons in both XBMC and Mythtv Frontend now..  I will soon test whether it is correctly controlling my satalite box real soon
[00:41] <tgm4883_laptop> Solarbaby, irexec will do it and I have it working in gnome
[00:41] <tgm4883_laptop> just not xfce
[00:41] <Solarbaby> tgm4883_laptop: my bad..  xfce would be a nicer choice yes?
[00:42] <tgm4883_laptop> well yes thats the default in mythbuntu
[00:42] <Solarbaby> makes sense
[00:42] <tgm4883_laptop> it works on my desktop but something strange happens on my frontend only
[00:42] <Solarbaby> I want to configure a button on my reqmote to alt tab from mythtv frontend to XBMC frontend
[00:43] <Solarbaby> of course I can put that at the end of my to do list, but ultimately very nice thing indeed
[00:43] <Egghead2> tgm4883_laptop, if you get it going let me know, id love to be able to restart the fe from the remote control
[00:43] <tgm4883_laptop> will do
[00:43] <Solarbaby> me too..
[00:43] <Solarbaby> looks like after im done with all this hell.. im going to have to write up a new howto
[00:44] <Solarbaby> it helps me remember what I did to make this god awful lirc work
[00:44] <Egghead2> right noiw every crash i have to fireup the lappy and vnc into that box :(
[00:44] <Egghead2> hehe i have a bunch of notes too, lol too many
[00:45] <Egghead2> gotta get some food, bbl
[00:45] <Solarbaby> Egghead2: lemme knwo if I can help you later get it working
[00:46] <Solarbaby> Egghead2: if theres anything I can do
[00:47] <Egghead2> ok will do, i think im gonna try and uninstall the lirc again on the backend one more time :)
[00:47] <Solarbaby> chances are hardware.conf is screwed up
[00:47] <Solarbaby> thats always a biggy
[00:47] <Egghead2> yea maybe, had a hella time getting blaster to work
[00:48] <Solarbaby> usb uirt here
[00:48] <Egghead2> ok cya later, off to get some food
[00:48] <Solarbaby> and yeah..  took a while
[00:48] <Solarbaby> l8r
[00:48] <Solarbaby> just cause im used to saying it.. I wanna say it again.. I hate lirc
[00:59] <tgm4883_laptop> Solarbaby, Egghead2 seems that it may be working now
[01:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883_laptop: irrecord seems to record every other button on this remote
[01:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> gonna go watch some tv before I destroy things, I'll be around later
[01:34] <Solarbaby> tgm4883_laptop: very good news :)
[01:46] <pteague> do i need to set something so my myth client knows where the server is?  i keep getting "could not connect to the master backend server -- is it running? is the ip address set for it in the setup program correct?"
[01:48] <Solarbaby> if its a backend you might want to enable Mysql Service in the Mythbuntu Control Center
[01:50] <pteague> i enabled the mysql service on my backend cause i can connect to it using the "test connection", but my frontend is apparently having problems figuring out what computer it's supposed to connect to
[01:50] <Solarbaby> ah yah..  Im installing for the first time in 6 months myself.. when I get to that point i'll be sure to yell out at ya.. sounds like you might be a little further along then I
[01:56] <pteague> i wonder if i'm supposed to hardcode the ip address rather than use the computer's name
[01:56] <Solarbaby> always try everything..
[01:58] <rhpot1991> I'd use the IP if you could
[01:58] <rhpot1991> thats how I have always done
[02:02] <tgm4883_laptop> use the ip
[02:04] <pteague> ok, is there someplace i need to change it other than /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ?
[02:04] <Solarbaby> oh no..  it appears that the Plextor ConvertX might be difficult to setup
[02:05] <Solarbaby> I thought that would be the easiest part
[02:06] <Solarbaby> I was betting on plug and play..
[02:17] <pteague> ok, this is weird... no matter what i seem to change i keep getting this error - "Connecting to backend server: <IP_ADDRESS>:6543"
[02:17] <pteague> or message rather
[02:20] <pteague> http://paste2.org/p/28720
[02:29] <pteague> ok, where or how do i set the master server settings?
[02:36] <Solarbaby> it seems im out of luck using the Plextor 402u in hardy :(
[02:37] <Solarbaby> if anyone knows different please let me know..  this is dissapointing
[02:41] <pteague> plextor?
[02:42] <pteague> ah, that's why it sounds familiar
[02:52] <sardiskan> I'm having audio issues...the sound is VERY low.
[02:53] <sardiskan> also, the volume controls do not affect the volume on LiveTV at all
[02:53] <sardiskan> or the DVD
[03:01] <pteague> does NFS get automatically set up for sharing stuff?
[03:13] <Solarbaby> is anyone else using a Plextor ConvertX 402u?
[03:20] <a1fa> yo?
[03:22] <a1fa> anybody have streamzap?
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> it's
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> so
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> hot
[03:42]  * tgm4883_laptop dies from the heat
[04:51] <ddgoose> howdy
[05:02] <pteague> i finally got a new error in my frontend...  it's now giving me a difference in protocol error...  yay for different packages between gutsy & hardy?
[05:32] <ddgoose> what error?
[05:54] <Solarbaby> ddgoose: thank god I finally got that lirc thing worked out
[05:54] <ddgoose> oh cool
[05:54] <Solarbaby> ddgoose: now the next big hurdle is that my Plextor 402u isn't supported by the Kernel
[05:54] <ddgoose> what was the answer?
[05:54] <Solarbaby> so recording will not be possible until I figure out that whole mess or replace the recording device
[05:55] <Solarbaby> ddgoose: probably just badly formated conf files
[05:56] <Solarbaby> ddgoose: and lircrc needed to be setup right.. same with a configuration file in XBMC..  I got the whole show working now..  It broadcasts to the Dish Network tuner..  It listens for remote codes for Mythttv Frontend..  and it also listens to the same Remote for XBMC
[05:57] <Solarbaby> I'll have to configure the remote to load and unload each frontend
[05:57] <Solarbaby> that'd be sweet
[05:57] <ddgoose> the m402u should work
[05:57] <Solarbaby> Possibly a simple Alt Tab might be enough.. Im not certain it might get messy with the remote
[05:57] <Solarbaby> im using 8.04 and theres no Kernel support, unless you know how to apply the patches?
[05:58] <Solarbaby> I spent a few hours on it and just gave up for now..  Im not good with that stuff
[05:58] <Solarbaby> Im simply amazed I was able to come out on top with Lirc
[06:00] <Solarbaby> http://home.comcast.net/~bender647/go7007/   I went here and saw there are patches.. but I followed the limited instructions and found myself no closer
[06:03] <ddgoose> pretty small patch
[06:03] <ddgoose> only a few changes
[06:04] <pteague> ok, how do i get mythbuntu to detect a network card?
[06:05] <ddgoose> what card?
[06:05] <pteague> not sure, it's a laptop... i used to run debian on it... i mounted the drive in terminal & checked etc/modules on it & it doesn't list anything for the lan
[06:06] <pteague> i know it worked cause i was using it as a backup file & test server
[06:06] <ddgoose> is it running now?
[06:06] <pteague> box is currently on, i've got mythbuntu live cd running & / from old box mounted as /media/sda6
[06:07] <ddgoose> open terminal, run "sudo lshw" paste output to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <ddgoose> post link in here
[06:08] <pteague> heh, that's gonna be somewhat hard considering it's not connected to the network ;)  or do you want me to boot up the old debian?
[06:08] <ddgoose> yeah that works
[06:11] <Solarbaby> ddgoose: did you take a look at that url?  is that something you understand more then I?
[06:13] <Solarbaby> ddgoose: or should I ditch this and get another piece of hardware that is way better?
[06:14] <Solarbaby> ddgoose: its intended use is for a laptop
[06:17] <Solarbaby> wow theres 50 different url's of my in google via irc and forums
[06:18] <Solarbaby> wait.. make that 50 pages of me in urls
[06:18] <Solarbaby> google is incredible
[06:26] <pteague> ddgoose> http://paste2.org/p/28783
[06:27] <pteague> i see *-network at the bottom
[06:33] <pteague> pcimodules shows e100 & eepro100
[06:35] <ddgoose> sorry had to step out for a minute
[06:36] <pteague> np, watching something i missed
[06:38] <ddgoose> k reboot to live cd and do "sudo lsmod| grep eepro100"
[06:38] <ddgoose> tell me if you get output
[06:39] <ddgoose> also do the lshw thing again and see if its listed in there with and ethernet interface designated
[06:39] <ddgoose> like logical name: eth0
[06:48] <Solarbaby> superm1: I miss you
[06:50] <pteague> ddgoose> nothing on lsmod for eepro100, lshw came up with an eth0
[06:50] <ddgoose> hmm might be loading e100
[06:50] <ddgoose> but sounds like you have an interface
[06:51] <ddgoose> what does ifconfig show?
[06:51] <pteague> did lshw | less & searched for eth & yes, driver=e100 & it's showing an ip address
[06:52] <ddgoose> ok so try ping google.com
[06:52] <ddgoose> is the ip proper for your network?
[06:52] <pteague> ifconfig seems to return expected & pinging google works
[06:53] <ddgoose> this is on livecd right?
[06:53] <pteague> yes
[06:53] <ddgoose> so its working :)
[06:54] <pteague> seems to be, but last time it wasn't letting me modify anything in networkmanager... ah, now it is...
[06:54] <pteague> i'm betting the reboot fixed it
[06:54] <ddgoose> glitch I guess
[06:55] <ddgoose> at least now you know what to do next time you run into that
[07:34] <pteague> ok... next question is tv-out...  ;)  it seems it wants to disable it & i'm not sure how to enable it... the opensource driver doesn't want to allow it & there isn't an intel or ati option
[07:35] <pteague> meh, i'll install & hope after reboot it'll want to install the ati binary
[08:34] <pteague> ok, i don't think this is good - "The ext3 file system creation in partition #2 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."
[11:37] <DiploCat> is there somewhere that has a list of supported hardware for mythbuntu... I'm building a box, and want to make sure I get well supported tv card, vfd's, remote etc
[11:37] <DiploCat> ?
[11:41] <laga> there's a thread in the forums. i'm not sure if it has seen many updates for 8.04
[12:15] <pteague> my backend is sharing certain directories for mythtv via nfs... do i need to mount those on my client in order to be able to watch videos i've recorded?
[12:16] <laga> no
[12:24] <pteague> what about for dvds ripped on the server & such?
[12:24] <laga> you'll have to use NFS for those
[12:24] <laga> (or cifs, whatever floats your boat :))
[12:27] <pteague> not sure what the diff is, but guessing both are better than samba
[12:29] <laga> cifs is samba, i think. more or less. ;)
[12:30] <laga> i haven't used that stuff in ages so i'm not up to date
[12:38] <drmouse81> Hello all
[12:39] <pteague> anybody have a suggestion on a lightweight theme?
[12:40] <drmouse81> I have a problem that is currently bugging me. I have a cheap USB remote which appears as a HID kbd. I need to, somehow, stop it from being used as a keyboard, so that I can use it just though LIRC. Anyone know how?
[12:41] <laga> pteague: regarding memory? iulius
[12:42] <laga> drmouse81: i believe lirc can do that somehow. but i don't know how. inputlirc might be a good alternative.
[12:42] <laga> install it and then read the man page, it can probably do everything you need
[12:44] <drmouse81> I have configured lirc, used irrecord to map the buttons then specified it in the mythbuntu controll panel using the dev/input driver and my irrecord-generated config file. but it is still being seen as a keyboard, so the key presses are coming through rather than the events defined in .mythtv/lircrc
[12:46] <drmouse81> oh, actualy, might a reboot help? just thought of that. I am used to linux not needing reboots (use it on servers all the time)
[12:46] <laga> maybe X needs to be restarted.
[12:46] <drmouse81> laga: right, brb, i'll try that
[12:48] <famicom> ugh
[12:48] <famicom> so boring
[12:48] <famicom> i wish i had some weed
[12:49] <famicom> somoenhere know of any good ways to export the sorted mythtv channels
[12:49] <laga> you live in .nl
[12:49] <laga> go buy some
[12:49] <laga> besides, keep this channel family-freindly. only talk about booze ;)
[12:50] <pteague> hehe
[12:51] <famicom> alcohol kills more people
[12:53] <laga> there's a song about a guy who was killed when a shipment of weed was dropped on him. tragic.
[12:53] <famicom> ahahahahahah
[12:53] <famicom> yeah
[12:53] <famicom> still
[12:53] <famicom> writing documentation is SO DAMN TEDIOUS
[12:53] <laga> yes.
[12:54] <drmouse81> grr. nope mythtv still picks up SHIFT-CTRL-<box> for play
[12:54] <famicom> drmouse81 them just edit ~/.mythtv/lircrc to use shift-ctrl for play
[12:55] <laga> drmouse81: i wonder if you need to specify the correct device for lirc
[12:55] <drmouse81> famicom: too true. documentation is the worst part of my job, specialy as it has to be written for retards
[12:55] <famicom> drmouse81 i know
[12:55] <famicom> I hate doing it
[12:55] <famicom> i'm thinking of getting some good hash, blaze a bit
[12:56] <famicom> then just get it over with
[12:56] <drmouse81> laga: that could be the reason. D'OH! just looked in mythbuntu controll panel and it has no device specified!!
[12:57] <famicom> well that's just silly
[12:59] <drmouse81> OK maybe I'm not a retard. just entered all the settings and after it finished applying them EVERYTHING has disappeard from the mythbuntu ctrl panel ir cfg
[12:59] <pteague> dang, i'm not seeing static or animated map in the weather plugin for my area... what kind of lousy plugin doesn't have a map of my area? ;)
[13:00] <famicom> wow
[13:00] <famicom> even my suburb has a map
[13:00] <famicom> you really must live in single cowville usa
[13:02] <drmouse81> lol
[13:02] <pteague> nope, i live in the biggest city in... the 2 states that it's in
[13:03] <drmouse81> binary city?
[13:03] <pteague> kansas city... it's a big cow town... they'd drive cattle here from texas to get to the train yards
[13:04] <drmouse81> actualy, quantum city. two states at once
[13:04] <pteague> hehe
[13:04] <pteague> it sprawls across kansas & missouri borders
[13:06] <pteague> hmm... maybe i should check oklahoma & see if there's a map for there... the region map tends to show oklahoma, kansas, missouri, & nebraska
[13:06] <pteague> anybody know what the 'menu' key is on a keyboard?
[13:07] <drmouse81> pteague: windows kbd right of right-win-key?
[13:07] <pteague> hehe
[13:07] <pteague> doesn't seem to work in mythbuntu client
[13:11] <drmouse81> Ah, wait a minute. What module should I be using in lirc?
[13:13] <drmouse81> YAY irw now at least picks up the keypresses. Its just its picking them all up as the same. D'OH
[13:15] <drmouse81> No wonder. My irrecord'ed file has all keypresses as 0x00!
[13:17] <pteague> you think i could run the frontend on just x ?
[13:17] <laga> pteague: a window manager is usually better to avoid focus problems
[13:18] <pteague> k, i'll mess with icewm... i think that's lighter than xfce
[13:21] <pteague> hehe... there's a bit of lag between live & what's on backend/frontend
[13:22] <pteague> i'm watching tv on my normal tv & just got the client running on my laptop
[13:33] <pteague> this is so cool... this is better than seeing moving pictures on a computer screen! oh wait... =)
[13:59] <drmouse81> >:(
[14:00] <drmouse81> irrecord just keeps returning 0x0 for every button!
[14:00] <drmouse81> i have now nearly finished a full pack of cigs too. I HATE COMPUTERS!
[14:19] <famicom> drmouse81
[14:19] <famicom> smoke weed
[14:20] <famicom> If it wasnt for drugs I wouldn't be able to write these god4mn kernel patches
[14:26] <drmouse81> famicom: i used to. stopped when I left university. now I just keep a bit by the bed to knock me out when I cant sleep.
[14:27] <drmouse81> find it tends to make me do nothing for hours on end
[14:27] <drmouse81> then i wonder why i havent done anything i needed to.
[14:28] <famicom> ah
[14:28] <famicom> I allways get really really motivated
[14:29] <laga> drmouse81: stop smoking completely :)
[14:29] <laga> someone shoot me please. i'm going to shop for shoes in half an hour.
[14:30] <laga> with the GF.
[14:30] <famicom> laga shoot her instead
[14:30] <laga> aww :(
[14:31] <famicom> i guess i got it easy
[14:31] <famicom> my girlfriend is a complete hesher
[14:31] <famicom> so we both have the same taste in clothes
[14:31] <famicom> PLUS
[14:32] <famicom> she's somewhat of a submissive girl in bed
[14:32] <famicom> so if she tries that stuff on me
[14:32] <famicom> i just take a very firm strong stand
[14:32] <famicom> and tell her no
[14:32] <drmouse81> :)
[14:32] <famicom> so instead of shopping i get laid
[14:33] <laga> "hesher". interesting word. :)
[14:34] <drmouse81> laga: do what my bro does. his gf doesnt take him shopping anymore. he calls into every pub he passes and downs a pint. sometimes sneaks out of the shop and has a drink. so he ends up wasted. she doesnt like that, so doesnt take him.
[14:35] <famicom> UGH
[14:35] <famicom> alchohol == devil juice
[14:36] <laga> famicom: you'll have to admit it's a good method to avoid shopping.
[14:36] <laga> and btw, you're a bunch of weird guys.
[14:36] <laga> ;)
[14:36] <famicom> by weird you mean FRIGGIN AWESOME
[14:37] <drmouse81> lol
[14:37] <laga> yes
[14:37] <laga> and by yes i mean no
[14:37] <famicom> yeah well
[14:37] <famicom> in that case
[14:37] <famicom> i think you are a great person
[14:37] <famicom> and I'm sure we could be friends
[14:38] <drmouse81> laga: try it. it didnt work for me (gf still dragged me round, then bollocked me) but it still made the shopping more fun.
[14:45] <laga> drmouse81: i rarely drink
[14:46] <laga> stopped smoking, reduced drinking a lot.. guess i've become boring ;)
[15:12] <rob515> Has anyone been successful in watching livetv over firewire from a SA4250hd STB? I believe that my configuration is working correctly as i can record from the STB manually and it works great its just the live tv that does not.
[15:17] <rob515> Has anyone been successful in watching livetv over firewire from a SA4250hd STB? I believe that my configuration is working correctly as i can record from the STB manually and it works great its just the live tv that does not.
[15:29] <bob2600> i have manual recording working over 1394 but not livetv how do i fix that?
[15:30] <bob2600> hello?
[15:36] <bob2600> hello?
[15:50] <pteague> irw gets it's info from lircd right?
[15:59] <drmouse81> bob2600: sorry i have no idea
[16:00] <bob2600> its ok i'm pretty much stumped as well lol
[16:26] <cosmic> hi @ all
[16:27] <ddgoose> howdy
[16:27] <cosmic> ;)
[16:27] <cosmic> howdy dude
[16:27] <cosmic> how are ya ?
[16:27] <ddgoose> doing good, just woke up and its nice and sunny
[16:28] <cosmic> hui
[16:28] <cosmic> where you from?
[16:28] <ddgoose> Seattle, Wa
[16:28] <cosmic> oh i see
[16:29] <cosmic> you slept well and long , have you been out yesterday ?
[16:29] <ddgoose> ?
[16:29] <cosmic> Seattle , should be GMT -5 right ?
[16:29] <ddgoose> -8
[16:29] <cosmic> oh
[16:29] <cosmic> pardon
[16:29] <cosmic> ;)
[16:30] <ddgoose> I'm on the west coast :)
[16:30] <cosmic> uuh
[16:30] <cosmic> okidok
[16:30] <cosmic> so then , good morning
[16:32] <cosmic> do you use emulators with mythgames ? ddgoose
[16:33] <cosmic> on a 64 system ?
[16:33] <ddgoose> no just i386
[16:33] <ddgoose> why? having issues?
[16:33] <cosmic> shame on these emus , i dont get them all work on x64
[16:34] <cosmic> yeah, issues with ePSXe , zsnes , and mupen64
[16:34] <ddgoose> packages or source built?
[16:35] <cosmic> and issues with my second dvb-t card  (Hauppauge WinTV-HVR1300 DVB-T/Hybrid MPEG Encoder)
[16:35] <cosmic> i dont find packages for x64  so i tried to build
[16:39] <ddgoose> so what was wrong with the build?
[16:40] <cosmic> zsnes , does configure fine , but it doesnt whant to "make" it says something like wrong or not supported CPU
[16:43] <cosmic> i dont find the value to setup correct for my CPU
[16:49] <ddgoose> hmm
[16:54] <ddgoose> what configure options did you use?
[16:55] <cosmic> i dont remember , let me look
[17:04] <ddgoose> try ./configure --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
[17:12] <cosmic> error
[17:13] <cosmic> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/216716/
[17:24] <ddgoose> are you on an Athlon 64?
[17:27] <cosmic> intel Core2Duo
[17:30] <ddgoose> try -> export CFLAGS="-m32" ; export CXXFLAGS="-m32"; ./configure --enable-release --disable-cpucheck force_arch=athlon64
[17:32] <cosmic> the same error
[17:34] <ddgoose> paste result of new configure
[17:34] <ddgoose> brb grabbin a coke and a smile
[17:35] <cosmic> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/216719/
[17:35] <cosmic> what is "brb" ?
[17:35] <cosmic> sorry for my english
[17:36] <cosmic> by the way
[17:50] <ddgoose> brb = be right back
[17:55] <cosmic> oh , ok
[17:55] <cosmic> :)
[17:58] <ddgoose> Ultimately I think this is your answer -> http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9122
[17:58] <ddgoose> are you compilimg to get a certain version? like 1.51?
[18:00] <ddgoose> compiling even
[18:00] <cosmic> thx , will have a look at it
[18:00] <ddgoose> also -> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/216731/ will get you what you need
[18:02] <cosmic> wait i have done : dpkg -i -force-arch for an zsnses package i386, it is installed
[18:04] <cosmic> what a shame :http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/216736/
[18:05] <ddgoose> yeah to get the one that doesnt deg I think you need to follow that last paste
[18:05] <ddgoose> and install the znes32
[18:05] <cosmic> when i start with filename , then i get : File opened successfully !  before segmentation fault
[18:05] <cosmic> deg ???
[18:06] <ddgoose> seg fault
[18:06] <ddgoose> typo
[18:06] <cosmic> soory i drunk beer ....... wants again please , and in other words , when  possible
[18:06] <ddgoose> touch typing while watching tv causes bad output :P
[18:07] <ddgoose> if you add that apt source and install the zsnes32 instead of just zsnes, it should work
[18:08] <cosmic> witch apt source ? : http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9122 : there is none
[18:10] <ddgoose> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/216731/
[18:18] <cosmic> hmn
[18:18] <cosmic> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/216744/
[18:29] <Lake0> As far I get it, the only component you can have too much of is the GPU, right ?
[18:29] <tritium> huh?
[18:30] <Lake0> I mean, it's better to invest in a better CPU than a good GPU, right ?
[18:30] <Lake0> since people seem fine with nvidia 6000's
[18:32] <tritium> That's probably fair to say.  My nVidia 6150 does what I need it to do for mythv, and I don't use the machine for gaming, or other things that might require a better GPU.
[18:34] <ddgoose> why does it say 822-date in that line -> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/216744/#code-l10
[18:34] <ddgoose> you didn't get the gpg key because the command didn't complete
[18:35] <ddgoose> should be just "wget http://packages.dfreer.org/5A22BD68.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[18:35] <Lake0> tritium: what's your system look like ?
[18:53] <ddgoose> nice
[18:54] <pteague> ok, where is the mythfrontend icon located at?
[18:54] <ddgoose> applications->multimedia
[18:55] <pteague> i'm looking for the xpm, png, or whatever
[18:57] <ddgoose> the actual icon, I see
[18:59] <ddgoose> -> /usr/share/mythtv/themes/blue/
[19:00] <ddgoose> myth_tv_logo.png
[19:02]  * agamotto bows
[19:02] <agamotto> Hallo all
[19:03]  * agamotto waves
[19:09] <rhpot1991> bob2600: what happens with your live tv?
[19:09] <rhpot1991> you might nee to just swith the input if you have others
[19:10] <rhpot1991> or you may be hitting channels that are encrypted and then your firewire either hangs or crashes myth
[19:10] <rhpot1991> disable those channels then
[19:14] <MythbuntuGuest14> Hi Has anybody used the "install mythbuntu" link to add mythbuntu to ubuntu? I used it, but I'm not being able to launch mythtv setup  off mythbuntu control center
[19:15] <cosmic> i did : wget http://packages.dfreer.org/5A22BD68.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -       but it didnt stop
[19:15] <cosmic> !!!
[19:15] <cosmic> ddgoose:
[19:18] <ddgoose> hmm
[19:18] <ddgoose> works fine for me
[19:20] <ddgoose> try again maybe
[19:30] <MythbuntuGuest14> so you just clicked on the link, ubuntu was upgraded to mythbuntu and you were able to launch the setup?
[19:30] <Lake0> I am trying to build a server backend and I am trying to understand what CPU (the most important component apparently) is fir for the job
[19:30] <Lake0> is fit for the job*
[19:31] <Lake0> because the mythbuntu page has examples, but it only says vague things like "3GHz cpu"
[19:50] <cosmic> thnx for all ddgoose
[19:50] <cosmic> CU @ ALL
[19:50] <ddgoose> o/
[20:01]  * agamotto twiddles
[20:02] <trillex> Anyone very smart who feels like helping a lost soul in the journey that is mythbuntu?
[20:04] <agamotto> I will attempt to help with what I know... the others seem to have no ability to speak... at least not in the last couple of days
[20:06] <agamotto> So ask away...
[20:08] <trillex> I got this Pundit BB that I'm trying to convert into a mediacenter. Now, the problem is that I don't have a flatscreen telly, but a more old fashioned one, hooked up with s-video. That's all good and that, but I can't make it use 50 hz and defaults to 60, so it flickers constantly. I can also only choose 60 hz.
[20:08] <trillex> And I don't seem to be able to find a way to configure my telly while it's hooked up to a monitor I got laying about
[20:08] <agamotto> trillex:  PAL?
[20:08] <trillex> Yep
[20:08] <trillex> It's set to PAL-Danish
[20:09] <agamotto> What is set to PAL-D
[20:09] <trillex> Somewhere I could change it from NTSC
[20:10] <trillex> TV format in general settings
[20:10] <agamotto> Ahhh, ok, you made it that far
[20:10] <trillex> Everything is installed and it seems to be working alright on my monitor, but the TV is just flickering away
[20:10] <agamotto> If your tv-out is PAL-D, then you shouldn't be having any problems with flicker
[20:10] <agamotto> Ahhh, I see.  What kind of telly?
[20:11] <trillex> An old hitachi 28" widescreen.
[20:11] <agamotto> Hmmm, Pal-D format, or something else?
[20:12] <trillex> Should be. I can also try to just set it to PAL
[20:12] <trillex> 50 hz
[20:13] <agamotto> That might do do the trick.  When I lived in the UK, I remember having one telly that I had to set to Pal-K for some reason
[20:13] <agamotto> Also, does your telly have a VGA input?
[20:13] <trillex> Nah, too old for that. 2 scart plugs, RGB on the side and a Antenna plug
[20:14] <agamotto> RGB.... three separate color round bits?
[20:14] <trillex> I'm using an s-video cable with a color fix on the end for color. It works properly on my main computer (this one) but if I plug it in with colorfix on, it flickers. Without it doesn't.
[20:14] <trillex> Yeah
[20:15] <bogus-> anyone knows, when I browse HD content with mythstream on my TV (reso set to 800x600) if I want to go fullscreen, my screen stays black
[20:15] <agamotto> I wonder if the color fix is also trying to mess with the scan rate
[20:15] <trillex> So I'm thinking it COULD be something with the gfx
[20:15] <trillex> card
[20:15] <agamotto> That does sound like a good possibility.... what card?
[20:15] <trillex> Onboard SiS 651
[20:16] <trillex> Impossible to find drivers on
[20:16] <agamotto> Hmmmm, don't know much about that
[20:16] <agamotto> Have you had much luck putting your programs onto DVDs?
[20:16] <trillex> I was thinking of just grabbing a cheap PCI
[20:17] <agamotto> That would be worth it... most are under US$60 these days....
[20:17] <agamotto> Any Nvidia Geforce 6 series should do nicely
[20:17] <trillex> Haven't tried yet. All I want right now is it to work so I can watch telly on it. :) That's the next step
[20:18] <agamotto> Ahhh.  My problem is not being able to burn discs since I upgraded to 8.04.  It has something to do with growisofs and result 133, whatever that is
[20:18] <agamotto> I keep searching on the net, and can't find anything that makes sense
[20:19] <trillex> I wouldn't know.   Dumb is for people who don't try
[20:19] <agamotto> ignorance can be cured with knowledge
[20:22] <trillex> Ignorance means that they are ignoring knowledge about it, though.
[20:23] <trillex> I actively try to get better but it's hard when I head right on into some of the hardest stuff. :P
[20:26] <agamotto> Yah, but that quite often, is the quickest way to learn
[20:30]  * agamotto twiddles
[20:35]  * agamotto waves
[21:31] <HunterSThompson> anyone know how to make playback always be in progressive scan mode in Hardy?
[21:34] <HunterSThompson> O______o
[21:42] <HunterSThompson> anyone care to venture a guess?
[21:42] <tgm4883_laptop> HunterSThompson, have you checked in the tv playback settings in the frontend
[21:42] <laga> patch the source?
[21:43] <HunterSThompson> I've checked tv playback settings...I don't find anything having to do with deintelacing/progressive scan
[21:43] <laga> you can probably disable the deinterlacers.
[21:44] <HunterSThompson> I've no idea how to patch a source
[21:44] <alexvd> all I managed to upgrade my version of lirc that didnt support the irman.  I am running 7.10 still because I have not upgraded.  Do I need to uninstall the old version?  I installed with the deb.
[21:45] <laga> disable the deinterlaceing filters in the playback profile
[21:47] <alexvd> Another question I have is I have a tivo series2 remote I want to use.  I think I now need to get a lircd file for the remote that supports the irman protocol right?  Then I will need to get a lirc.c file for mythbuntu right?
[21:47] <alexvd> Is thier a utility that will do this?
[22:32] <nwidger> hey guys
[22:32] <nwidger> anyone around?
[22:34] <laga> no
[22:34] <laga> !ask
[22:35] <nwidger> laga: does the alternate install cd for mythbuntu support LVMs?
[22:37] <laga> i think so
[22:37] <nwidger> cool
[22:37] <nwidger> thanks :)


[01:20] <angel_> Hey
[01:22] <angel_> I´m New
[02:26] <kjireton> I have been getting a message when I try to update my software. Apparently one of the files needed to update is not downloading or is corrupted. Where can I go to get help on this.? thank you
[02:32] <mate|94788> ola
[02:35] <tommy_> I had Chromium working well for Months. Recently though it has been crashing every time i try to launch it.
[02:36] <tommy_> Any idea's on ways to fix it?
[03:59] <mate|86627> hi
[10:49] <vho_> hi
[10:49] <vho_> waht is your name?
[13:41] <yanghao> hello
[13:41] <yanghao> anybody hear me?
[13:41] <DarkPsydeLord> no
[13:42] <DarkPsydeLord> but i can read you
[13:59] <ouroumov> Same here, the text is going through just fine but yeah, we can't hear you.
[14:05] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, got a minute?
[14:05] <flexiondotorg> Yes
[14:06] <ouroumov> I was wondering if you could bump some bounties on bountysource 5 bucks
[14:06] <flexiondotorg> Sure.
[14:06] <ouroumov> But bountysource is lagging for some reason so I'm gonna need a minute to get to the urls -_-
[14:06] <flexiondotorg> I've had your PM from Discourse open in a browser tab for ages. Sorry.
[14:07] <ouroumov> oh
[14:07] <yanghao> haha
[14:07] <ouroumov> Well that simplifies it
[14:07] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, ElementaryOS is very active on Bountysource, I'm jealous of them
[14:08] <flexiondotorg> They have full-time people who use that all the time.
[14:08] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, the fact that you can see only one page of activity means delaying between bumps means better PR
[14:08] <yanghao> good
[14:08] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov I have to be very efficient with the little time I have for Ubuntu MATE.
[14:09] <flexiondotorg> I've front loaded the 17.10 cycle with development activity.
[14:09] <ouroumov> Yeah, I don't know how you do it. Do you ever sleep?
[14:09] <flexiondotorg> I'm working every spare moment to hit Alpha 2.
[14:09] <yanghao> where are you?
[14:09] <flexiondotorg> We have one package left to land.
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> Which will enable all the new stuff I've been working so hard on.
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> I've land some HiDPI patches yesterday.
[14:10] <ouroumov> I saw, that's awesome.
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> It is in now way finished.
[14:11] <flexiondotorg> But it is possible to configure a usable desktop on a HiDPI display using the existing MATE configuration tools.
[14:11] <ouroumov> btw has ubiquity been patched for that?
[14:12] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov Anyway, ping me BountySource URL and I'll process them now.
[14:12] <flexiondotorg> I'll be here for 3 hours.
[14:12] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov MATE has no automatic detection for HiDPI yet.
[14:12] <flexiondotorg> Ubiquity does.
[14:13] <flexiondotorg> MATE requires manual tweaking. Even then some applications need improvement.
[14:13] <flexiondotorg> Mostly mate-panel and the lock screen. Everything else look in pretty decent shape.
[14:13] <DarkPsydeLord> i want those bucks pls gimme bucks so i can get tacos
[14:14] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, I sent you the links in PM
[19:53] <duck_> Terminal crashes when right clicking and pasting
[19:53] <duck_> Is this is known bug?
[19:56] <duck_> !help
[19:56] <duck_> !patience
[20:01] <duck_> Anyway, whole screen freezes when I right click and paste into terminal, although background applications work. UI and everything else doesn't. 4.10.0-28-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 30 05:32:18 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:11] <dave_> hi-I have 2 machines, 1 with ubuntu Mate and 1 with Lubuntu 17.04 - when I upgraded this from 16.04, to 17.04. my LibreOffice 5 no longer opens- it goes through the motions, but doesnt open the odt files- I can open them with Abiword, but not in LibreOffice writer ? any suggestions
[21:26] <sixwheeledbeast^> Can you open a new Libre Document. Any error messages? Rebooted since upgrade?
[21:39] <dave_> I have tried re boot, turned off completely, tried again, tried to open LibreOffice only (without Doc) and as mentioned, it tried, I see the red line on LibreOffice run across, and it seems to stop short, then I get just a blank blue screen ?
[21:40] <dave_> no error message - other than occaisionally says internal error - but mot always ?
[21:44] <dave_> will be back tomorrow to read messages, hopefully cure, is there a 'fixit site ' it appears the 'upgrade from 16.04 to 17.04 has lost me Libreoffice Night all xx


[13:34] <rashaha> hello
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[13:35] <rashaha> orz
[13:35] <rashaha> ³£¨S¤H¸Ì§ÚQQ


[00:29] <ubuntumsia> hello
[00:29] <ubuntumsia> bye
[01:16] <primo_it> someone in brazil?
 Anyone know how to install browsh via their .deb file on their 1.5.0 release page on their GitHub?
[03:29] <tomreyn> which is at a url you'd prefer us to search?
[03:30] <tomreyn> this, i guess? https://github.com/browsh-org/browsh/releases/download/v1.5.0/browsh_1.5.0_linux_amd64.deb
[03:31] <tomreyn> "Debian/Ubuntu: x64"
[03:32] <tomreyn> cd; wget https://github.com/browsh-org/browsh/releases/download/v1.5.0/browsh_1.5.0_linux_amd64.deb && sudo apt install $HOME/browsh_1.5.0_linux_amd64.deb && rm browsh_1.5.0_linux_amd64.deb
[07:11] <aburoos> Hello
[07:11] <diogenes_> hi
[07:16] <aburoos> The Web Browsers don't seemingly run at all, with the Facebook log in page appearing to be hung forever
[09:55] <john_rambo> Hi, my screen goes off after some minutes of inactivity ....How can I stop this ? (using Lubuntu 18.04)
[11:14] <tualn> 这是什么irc
[11:15] <tualn> this is  my  old laptop
[11:15] <tualn> hello
[11:15] <tomreyn> hello person with old laptop
[11:16] <tomreyn> or old laptop with person
[11:18] <tualn> i  install lubuntu in my laptop.
[11:18] <tualn> english not good,
[14:10] <slouvega> Hello!
[14:12] <slouvega> I recently installed Lubuntu 18.04 LTS Beaver Bionic on my PC. I am not able to installapplications as octave, emacs, gedit , etc. throught the commands sudo apt-get install app
[14:14] <slouvega> It seems as the packages are not available!
[14:14] <slouvega> Does this lubuntu version come with all those application packages?
[14:14] <apt-ghetto> Please show the url from `{ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt install emacs } | pastebinit`
[14:16] <slouvega> Packageemacs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsolete, or is only available from another source
[14:17] <slouvega> E: Package 'emacs' has no installation candidate
[14:17] <slouvega> I transcribed it becaus the firefos browser on lubuntu is not responding
[14:18] <slouvega> something about the proxy I think


[04:10] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:56] <Kon-> I just noticed a 40% drop in performance between Bionic's 4.18 and 5.0 kernels in Mesa's RADV. Mentioned that in #ubuntu-kernel and apparently there's related discussion here
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe/+bug/1838644
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: probably a different bug then yours but..
[05:58] <Kon-> Yeah, my desktop was stable. I went the whole week on 5.0 and only noticed a problem with the massive drop in Mesa 3D performance in Vulkan
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: what kind of kernels do you have in your list right now?
[06:00] <Kon-> Only the standard Bionic and HWE kernels
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: booting into 4.18 doesnt give you this issue?
[06:01] <Kon-> My issue was fixed by reverting to 4.18, correct. The problem was present on 5.0 when using all available versions of Mesa, so it's not a Mesa problem
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: could you try a !mainline kernel 5.3 for example as a test?
[06:02] <Kon-> I guess I could try ukuu
[06:02] <Kon-> Does upgrading to mainline fix your issue?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: these kernels fix my issues for me: 4.15 4.18 5.2 and 5.3
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: so it would be nice, if we could prove there's something going on, on <IP_ADDRESS> specificly
[06:04] <Kon-> What's your CPU and GPU, btw?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: intel 620 UHD graphics on an intel i5 clevo
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: but for now, my bug only proves its clevo screen panel related..
[06:05] <Kon-> Interesting. All AMD here. Ryzen 7 1700X + Radeon RX 570
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> we have other users with radeon issues too on <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:06] <Kon-> Have any links?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> not sure bugs were filed for this yet
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: maybe try the mainline 5.3 first, if that works id advise a new bug
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: there is also a ryzen bug, think tomreyn knows about more
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> but not sure its related to yours
[06:11] <Kon-> Okay, AFK a few but I'll test 5.3 soon
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> ok, same breakfast here
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> keep us updated ok
[06:12] <Kon-> Sure thing
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[06:45] <Kon-> lotuspsychje: My issue remains with 5.2.8 from the Ubuntu mainline PPA
[06:45] <Kon-> So in my case, not specific to 5.0.0-23
[07:22] <luna> https://streaming.media.ccc.de/froscon2019/S1#schedule https://www.froscon.de/en/news/today-is-the-day-2/ Linux conference in Germany
[07:27] <EoflaOE> hello everyone
[07:27] <luna> hi EoflaOE
[07:27] <EoflaOE> hi luna, how are you doing?
[07:27] <luna> alright
[07:28] <EoflaOE> I am doing fine.
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: ok tnx for testing mate
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> Kon-: maybe you should consider creating a new bug anyway, ubuntu-bug linux
[07:51] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje hi
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> hey EoflaOE
[07:51] <EoflaOE> How are you doing?
[07:53] <EoflaOE> This kernel issue is weird. On my old PC, the screen doesn't flicker and do anything strange.  I mean the kernel 5.2.0
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> EoflaOE: ah you are testing 19.10 right
[11:45] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> EoflaOE, did you get the new 5.2.0-10-generic kernel version?
[11:53] <EoflaOE> BluesKaj: Got this version for my VM in my new PC and it did neither flicker nor cause problems. However my old PC stayed on 5.2.0-8
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> we have a few reports of  kernel 5 and amd graphics already, waiting for Kon- bug report now :p
[11:55] <BluesKaj> oh using a vm , not my style
[11:58] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: And my old PC has an Athlon XP 1500+, and AMD Radeon 9200 Series. They did not cause problems, only boot slowdown on the kernel that I was running there.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> EoflaOE: been of bionic for long time on an amd 3200+ and ati card, was working like a charm on 2g ram :p
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> tweaked to the max of course + ssd
[11:59] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: Nice. Athlon XP, 64, or II?
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> EoflaOE: https://www.cnet.com/products/abit-kv8-max3-motherboard-atx-socket-754-k8t800/ was my mobo
[12:04] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: And this is my mobo (Close to KT4AV): https://www.cnet.com/products/msi-kt4av-l-motherboard-atx-socket-a-kt400a/
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> nice, im an msi fan too
[12:06] <EoflaOE> Thanks. Haven't updated its bios yet.
[13:43] <TJ-> heads-up on a weird issue I struggled with for about 8 hours with a failed server boot, dropping to emergency.target. System has pretty standard non-encrypted LVM but (unusually) uses one LV for /usr/lib/ which requires manual intervention in initialramfs (cmdline += 'break=init', 'lvm vgchange -ay; mount /dev/dm-X /usr/lib') then Ctrl+D to continue. Systemd drops to emergency shell due to fstab UUID=
[13:43] <TJ-> devices not being found because udev for some reason did NOT create the symlinks in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ for the LVs.
[13:44] <TJ-> There were 2 problems. the dev-disk-by--uuid-$UUID.device unit missing (causing time-out) which prevents the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>which prevents the usr-local.mount which prevents local-fs.target !
[13:46] <TJ-> the first problem is/was that cmline += "fsck.mode=skip" is seeminigly ignored by systemd-fsck and doesn't prevent the fsck jobs being created. I got around that eventually by editing /etc/fstab for the problem mounts and changing the passno (last numeric value) to 0 and then 'systemctl daemon-reload'
[13:46] <TJ-> tried manually adding the missing symlinks under /dev/disk/by-uuid/ but that didn't solve the issue.
[13:47] <TJ-> /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-dm.rules is supposed to create the symlinks but 'udevadm trigger' nor 'systemctl restart systemd-udevd' caused creation or fixed the missing .device jobs
[13:48] <TJ-> eventually I de-activiated/re-activated the problem LV and the job was created and the mount succeeded with "lvchange -an VG/LV && lvchange -ay VG/LV"
[19:25] <tomreyn> if any of you know how to support ciby in #ubuntu, please drive, i'll remain clueless on nvidia until nouveau gets reworked with the new documentation.
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: think i already pointed him to latest drivers last time for that rtx
[19:26] <tomreyn> oh. well looks like ciby forgot then.
[19:27] <tomreyn> it may require more than just switching drivers, though? such as editing xorg.conf or changing configurations on the nvidia settings gui
[19:28] <OerHeks> maybe disabling nouveau is a solution https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-nouveau-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> i see bashing-om still messing with xorg alot, but i dont think thats the way to go anymore
[19:30] <EoflaOE> hi lotuspsychje
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> hey EoflaOE
[19:31] <EoflaOE> how are you doing?
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> all good here
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> uh-oh .23 bugs are flowing in.. bug #1839729
[19:34] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: Seems bad. Let me see how sleeping works on my old PC.
[19:36] <EoflaOE> lotuspsychje: Made my computer sleep, and my hard drive and monitor is turned off. Let me wake it up.
[19:37] <EoflaOE> Works perfectly. I think the 5.0 is unstable. Am I right?
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> well, all kinds of bugs showing up, like on any kernel
[19:43] <tomreyn> 18.04.3 with 5.0 kernel works fone on this intel system i'm currently using. i dont think there are *generic* issues. but there could be with a given cpu generation.
[19:44] <tomreyn> i've recently seen more reports about issues with Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> amd cards also with kernel 5 issues
[19:47] <tomreyn> yes there were some. of those i chatted with, one was with a very very new hardware, this wasn't a regression. and i think there was someone with an older one, and someone with a 'contemporary', both of which had problems, and i think at least one of them had those after the kernel abi bump
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> aha
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> can someone continue with ciby, think he might have some apt issues before the nvidia driver
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[19:50] <jeremy31> not even 10PM there
[19:53] <tomreyn> he gets up early
[19:59] <jeremy31> I am usually awake at 4AM without an alarm clock
[20:19] <OerHeks> nvidia and tomreyn is not a match :-D
[20:20] <TJ-> Only because he secretly causes its firmware to be changed to coreboot :D
[20:26] <tomreyn> OerHeks: if you can help this poor soul, feel free! i'm not sure what i'm suggesting is the right thing to do, just following up on what lotuspsyche said really
[20:27] <jeremy31> could always ping cryptodan, he was good with Nvidia
[20:28] <tomreyn> chances are i successfully sent him into nirvana now and he wont get back anyways, since recovery has has no gui
[20:29] <tomreyn> ...or it just works
[20:42] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:43] <OerHeks> chihuahuas can fly
[20:46] <tomreyn> anything can, with sufficient external acceleration.
[20:47] <tomreyn> go cannon fodder, go!
[20:51] <jeremy31> I am glad cows don't fly, birds are enough of a problem
[20:53] <OerHeks> cows don't fly?
[20:54] <OerHeks> .. and from what planet you are?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> Birdie birdie in the sky - why did you do that in my eye. I am not mad and I won't cry .. but sure glad cows do not fly :P
[20:55] <EoflaOE> hello Bashing-om
[20:55] <Bashing-om> EoflaOE: :P Pleased to read you here also :)
[20:56] <jeremy31> OerHeks: Must be the part of the planet with higher gravitational forces
[20:56] <EoflaOE> How are you doing?
[20:57] <OerHeks> oke, i am @ planet Pluto
[20:57] <Bashing-om> EoflaOE: I have spent 3 hours this AM on UWN - more than my share has been done .. if Gdoc does not get completed .. I will run with what is.
[20:57] <tomreyn> oh the dog planet
[20:58] <EoflaOE> Ok. After 2-1 minutes it will be Sunday on my timezone.
[20:58] <tomreyn> doh 3 hours... impressive, but also something i'd not want to do myself.
[22:25] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, blacklop with his ATI  X1300??
[22:25] <OerHeks> that would not run youtube properly AFAIK
[22:27] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Yup ! real real old hardware :(
[22:27] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: I ran that driver on this box for a while .. performance was dismal - newer Nvidia :)
[22:34] <OerHeks> he upgraded his CPU ...
[22:34] <OerHeks> odd thing to do
[22:35] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: This may be a can-of-worms to de-cypher :(
[22:38] <TJ-> knowing the user and the issues they bring up the cause is 'user' tampering with things they do not understand the implications of!
[22:40] <jeremy31> B|ack0p seems to be a never ending issue
[22:44] <Bashing-om> jeremy31: The hope is that he will learn  and become of some value :P
[22:44] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, remember crazy tux?
[22:45] <OerHeks> :-D
[22:46] <TJ-> I have an observation that is rarely wrong; any user with a 'l33t hax0r' nickname has no idea what they're doing
[22:47] <OerHeks> noob, or the word bloated..
[22:47] <j3r3my31> like me?
[22:51] <TJ-> jeremy31: no, a nickname that hints at being some kind of coding ninja/hacker
[22:54] <jeremy31> Most of my stuff on github are ugly hacks
[22:54] <TJ-> ahh but you *can* hack, you're not just posing
[22:58] <jeremy31> Some of it is just to add dkms support that actually works
[23:00] <OerHeks> guys, name 3 more .. boat anchor, coaster, doorstopper
[23:01] <jeremy31> support vampire
[23:06] <jeremy31> pixie is going to town on B|ack0p