[08:25] <digitalsurgeon> that solved it
[08:26] <phoenixp3k> Is it loaded at start-up ?
[08:26] <folta> hey again
[08:26] <Tuxicity> phoenixp3k, you follpowed instructions on ubuntuguide.org?
[08:26] <phoenixp3k> yup
[08:26] <thoreauputic_> phoenixp3k: normally yes
[08:26] <darren_> How do I run an rpm from terminal?
[08:26] <folta> i've checked- i have /bin in my path, and tar is at /bin/tar... so why isn't it being found by file roller?
[08:27] <phoenixp3k> ok. 2nd questions, GRUB takes 3-4 minutes to bood
[08:27] <phoenixp3k> to boot
[08:27] <thoreauputic_> darren_: you don't - this is a debian-based distro
[08:27] <Tuxicity> phoenixp3k, umm, thats long
[08:28] <digitalsurgeon> ok
[08:28] <Albacker> phoenixp3k /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:28] <digitalsurgeon> i have some simple .net winforms based apps in .NET
[08:28] <thoreauputic_> darren_: what are you trying to do?
[08:28] <Petro> How do I mount a filesystem without user, group permissions? (Here an iPod with HFS+)
[08:28] <Albacker> phoenixp3k, there should be something that sets the time.
[08:28] <digitalsurgeon> i have mono installed on my ubuntu linux
[08:28] <darren_> thoreauputic_, but Ubuntu can run rpms
[08:28] <digitalsurgeon> i want to run them
[08:28] <darren_> thoreauputic_,  I'm trying to install gimpshop
[08:28] <thoreauputic_> darren_: what are you trying to do?
[08:28] <digitalsurgeon> when i invoke the .exe i get this error
[08:28] <digitalsurgeon> ahout wine.exe
[08:28] <phoenixp3k> well, it's not the time letting me choose the operating system
[08:29] <phoenixp3k> it's the stage 1.5 thing
[08:29] <hohlraum> anyone know why the nvidia driver debs require the single processor kernel (and its support files) to be installed?
[08:29] <thoreauputic_> darren_: you can try using alien: sudo apt-get install alien
[08:29] <Albacker> phoenixp3k, ahh
[08:30] <Thom_Holwerda> huh anyone mentioned me
[08:30] <thoreauputic_> darren_: then sudo alien <name of rpm>
[08:30] <darren_> thoreauputic_, what's alien?
[08:30] <digitalsurgeon> yeah
[08:30] <digitalsurgeon> what is it ?
[08:30] <thoreauputic_> darren_: converts rpm to deb
[08:30] <Thom_Holwerda> darren_, it makes a .deb out of .rpm
[08:30] <thoreauputic_> darren_: if you're lucky
[08:30] <Thom_Holwerda> never failed on me :)
[08:31] <darren_> installed alien
[08:31] <phoenixp3k> So I was hoping there would be a way to fix this...
[08:31] <hohlraum> alien == gianormous hack :)
[08:31] <thoreauputic_> Thom_Holwerda: you're lucky then :)
[08:31] <darren_> what's the command to convert rpm to deb?
[08:31] <nydust> i have installed webmin and it bye default use root as login, but ubuntu has root account disabled by default how do i correct this?
[08:31] <folta> oh, this is a beautiful thing, mplayer and xmms are freezing now too
[08:31] <thoreauputic_> darren_: I told you
[08:31] <thoreauputic_> darren_: sudo alien <name of rpm>
[08:31] <digitalsurgeon> nydust: sudo
[08:31] <digitalsurgeon> then set passwd for root
[08:32] <Tuxicity> phoenixp3k, there must be, on my PC it's so fast
[08:32] <digitalsurgeon> su
[08:32] <Tuxicity> phoenixp3k, how much Mhz?
[08:32] <hohlraum> once you get into webadmin.. give a different user admin privs and then disable roots passwd again and delete the root user from webmin.
[08:32] <phoenixp3k> 2.4 Ghz
[08:33] <nydust> si cant login
[08:33] <phoenixp3k> Ubuntu is installed on a slave 3.2 GB 3600 rmp drive. But grub should be on the master
[08:33] <effigy> how do i go about setting my joystick up?
[08:34] <effigy> its a saitek p750 usb joystick, 3axis 12button
[08:34] <darren_> thoreauputic_, that command just created a dir
[08:35] <Goshawk> is there a way to see all the variables of my shell?
[08:35] <hohlraum> effigy: what app are you trying to use with it?
[08:35] <thoreauputic_> darren_: umm.. no it didn't - did you look in there to see if you have a deb?
[08:35] <darren_> yes
[08:35] <Albacker> darren_ : why do you want to convert a rpm to deb ?
[08:35] <darren_> It just created a folder called gimp-2.2.4
[08:36] <thoreauputic_> and what's in the dir then?
[08:36] <darren_> Albacker, I want to install gimpshop but it's a rpm
[08:36] <darren_> another dir
[08:36] <Albacker> darren_ : cant you find it in deb ?
[08:37] <thoreauputic_> darren_: then there's probbly a script in it to start the gimp
[08:37] <thoreauputic_> but there should be a deb
[08:37] <thoreauputic_> darren_: did it throw any errors?
[08:37] <Albacker> I have gimp installed from apt-get !!
[08:38] <thoreauputic_> Albacker: no this is a new thing
[08:38] <darren_> Albacker, it's a hack for gimp to make it like photoshop
[08:38] <phoenixp3k> when I checked on the forums, people talk about 90 sec. booting time, so that is the only bug I' experiencing
[08:38] <kbrooks> Just upgraded to Hoary, but GDM won't start. The X server output, at the end, says 'no screens found'
[08:38] <Albacker> darren_ : cool than, I'll need it :D
[08:38] <kbrooks> Why?
[08:38] <Albacker> darren_ : since I couldnt make photoshop work in linux. I'd like to get it.
[08:39] <thoreauputic_> kbrooks: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:40] <mdz> abelli: yes, it is possible to install drivers on the live CD
[08:40] <abelli> mdz: thx :)
[08:40] <darren_> Albacker, if I get it working I'll send you the file and give you the instrcutions
[08:40] <Dalkus> I need to know, to enable direct rendering must i downloda the nvidia driver from nvidia.com? or will the apt-get nvidia-* packages suffice?
[08:40] <Albacker> me too : darren_
[08:41] <Quinn_Storm> Dalkus: you need to install linux-restricted-modules
[08:41] <Dalkus> I have
[08:41] <kbrooks> ok
[08:41] <kbrooks> now to restart
[08:41] <Quinn_Storm> Dalkus: okay, I don't know beyond that, someone else know?
[08:41] <darren_> thoreauputic_, Does alien take ages because it's hanging for me
[08:42] <rdw200169> Albacker: $sudo alien -d gimshop.rpm
[08:42] <Dalkus> rpm is installed in ubuntu
[08:42] <thoreauputic_> darren_: well, it doesn't usually, but it's kind of experimantal - see man alien
[08:42] <Albacker> rdw200169, what's alien
[08:42] <Tuxicity> Goshawk, set | less
[08:43] <Mestapheles> anyone having problems changing desktop wall paper with xfce4 on hoary?  No subcontextuals appear with right click on desktop.
[08:43] <thoreauputic_> Dalkus: using rpm in debian based distros is A Bad Thing (tm)
[08:43] <Albacker> alien is the software that converts rpm2deb
[08:43] <Dalkus> okok
[08:43] <kbrooks> ok
[08:43] <kbrooks> thx
[08:43] <kbrooks> back in gnome
[08:43] <mjg59> __moray: Afraid so (no idea when you said that)
[08:43] <Tjdw> hey guys. I have a problem upgrading to hoary
[08:43] <mjg59> Argh. Cocking irssi.
[08:44] <phobosanger> hello
[08:44] <p88> hi all
[08:44] <Dalkus> I'm having problems with my nvidia drivers, i get these errors alot:
[08:44] <Dalkus> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:44] <Dalkus> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[08:44] <p88> are there people here who have used Fuse(Filesystem in USErspace) and know where and how to compile the module?
[08:44] <Dalkus> but my xorg.conf is setup fine, and all the nvidia packages are installed from the repository
[08:44] <Dalkus> what can i do...?
[08:44] <Echylo> damn, looks like the pope is dead :s
[08:45] <Tjdw> when i run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it tells me I have a failed dependancy
[08:45] <effigy> the popes been dead for years
[08:45] <Tjdw> libgtksourceview-common
[08:45] <Tjdw> is the wrong version
[08:45] <p88> Echylo: indeed it starts looking like that
[08:45] <Tjdw> so it won't let me continue
[08:45] <Tjdw> and I'm stuck in a terminal
[08:45] <Tjdw> no X
[08:45] <Dalkus> remove that package then
[08:45] <phoenixp3k> he did is job well
[08:45] <Tjdw> but it won't let me remove it
[08:45] <p88> anyone with FUSE or GmailFS?
[08:45] <larsrohdin> which is the best graphical file-manager?
[08:45] <phoenixp3k> let the men die in peace
[08:45] <Dalkus> Tjdw, have you tried apt-get remove?
[08:46] <p88> larsrohdin: I like konqueror
[08:46] <thoreauputic_> larsrohdin: what is your favourite colour?
[08:46] <Tjdw> Dalkus: yes
[08:46] <p88> larsrohdin: it doesn't really matter though
[08:46] <larsrohdin> p88, im using fluxbox
[08:46] <Loufier> Question.. if u install KDE on ubuntu does it make it kubuntu or ubuntu with kde?
[08:46] <Tjdw> Dalkus: it tells me i have packages that rely on it
[08:46] <thoreauputic_> larsrohdin: rox-filer
[08:47] <Loufier> cuz i got ubuntu b4 i knew ther was one for kde <:)
[08:47] <Tjdw> Dalkus: gedit depends on that
[08:47] <Tjdw> and ubuntu-desktop depends on gedit
[08:47] <Tjdw> etc.
[08:47] <larsrohdin> thoreauputic_, yeah, i liked that, but it didn't work after a while...
[08:47] <Tuxicity> Loufier, it's practically the same
[08:47] <thoreauputic_> larsrohdin: ? Odd - works well here...
[08:47] <Loufier> yea but im just wondering if it changes the name at the start :PP
[08:47] <Tuxicity> Loufier, according to Kubuntu FAQ
[08:48] <Dalkus> Tjdw, so delete them too? you can always reinstall
[08:48] <larsrohdin> thoreauputic_, Failed to create symlink '/home/larsrohdin/.icons/ROX':
[08:48] <larsrohdin> File exists
[08:48] <Dalkus> use synaptic
[08:48] <p88> synaptic is nice
[08:48] <kbrooks> question
[08:48] <adobbie> dselect is where it's at :)
[08:48] <Loufier> Finally i burnt my ubuntu disc :P ^_^
[08:48] <thoreauputic_> larsrohdin: that isn't a rox problem - it's a bad ln command
[08:48] <Tjdw> well i can't remove gedit
[08:49] <Tjdw> because it depends on gedit-common, which depends on gedit
[08:49] <Loufier> after seven times of windows doing blue screens of bad_pool_error -_-'
[08:49] <Mestapheles> Tjdw: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:49] <larsrohdin> thoreauputic_, got that error after running apt-get upgrade... it worked perfect before
[08:49] <Tjdw> i don't know how that works, but it never dies
[08:49] <thoreauputic_> larsrohdin: so just delete the symlink and fix it
[08:49] <larsrohdin> thoreauputic_, whats that then?
[08:49] <Tjdw> Mestapheles: it won't let me run that. it has dependancy issues
[08:50] <Tjdw> it's a giant loop of dependancies
[08:50] <Tjdw> it won't let me remove gedit
[08:50] <thoreauputic_> larsrohdin: Failed to create symlink '/home/larsrohdin/.icons/ROX  << you can fix that link or delete it
[08:50] <Tuxicity> Loufier, good now put it in and blow Win away!
[08:50] <larsrohdin> ok, now it works=)
[08:51] <larsrohdin> thanks alot!
[08:51] <kbrooks> i want to change the look of ubuntu
[08:51] <thoreauputic_> larsrohdin: no worries
[08:51] <thoreauputic_> :)
[08:51] <Loufier> after i burn all my shit off this comp :(
[08:51] <Loufier> ARGH why do i have to have soo much crap to sort out
[08:51] <Loufier> =/
[08:52] <Tuxicity> "World Bank OKs Bush loyalist as its chief" --> April's Fool??
[08:52] <kbrooks> impossible
[08:52] <Loufier> hmmmn i wont need all these windows appz :P
[08:52] <kbrooks> april's fool ends at 12
[08:52] <kbrooks> noon
[08:53] <Tuxicity> haha
[08:53] <Loufier> Meh
[08:53] <Quinn_Storm> given what I've heard about the World Bank lately it sounds quite likely to be true
[08:54] <thoreauputic_> kbrooks: it might have escaped your attention that there are places in the world where it isn't noon yet...
[08:54] <Loufier> i have 200gb's of evertyhing to sort out -_-'
[08:54] <Loufier> damn adsl connection ^^
[08:54] <adobbie> Fri Apr  1 13:54:21 EST 2005
[08:54] <kbrooks> thoreauputic_, i know
[08:55] <Tuxicity> I dont know what is and what's not a joke on the WWW this morning... o_O
[08:56] <Tjdw> so no ideas on how to fix this?
[08:56] <kbrooks> fix what
[08:56] <kbrooks> i want to change the look of ubuntu?
[08:56] <effigy> i think every story on slashdot today is a joke
[08:56] <kbrooks> hiw do i do so
[08:57] <kbrooks> effigy, date
[08:57] <thoreauputic_> kbrooks: gnome-look.org
[08:57] <Loufier> wat i wana know is how im going get ubuntu workin with windows comps =/
[08:57] <Quinn_Storm> Tuxicity: welcome to the new age of hysteria here in idiot america (and by extension the rest of the world since america LOVES to throw its weight around)
[08:58] <abrs> My Via EPIA M doesn't give output with x.org's via driver .. common?
[08:58] <Quinn_Storm> <--- disgruntled american
[08:58] <rdw200169> <--- disgruntled american soldier
[08:59] <Tjdw> i'll come back later and ask
[08:59] <Tjdw> i have to go to class
[08:59] <Tjdw> peace
[08:59] <Tuxicity> peace indeed
[08:59] <Fackamato> If I edit my xorg.conf (hoary) to include resolutions up to 1600x1200 (I only have up to 1280x960 now), how can I make the virtual viewspace to 1280x960?
[08:59] <Quinn_Storm> I feel for you, rdw200169 .
[08:59] <Fackamato> Because if I select 1280x960, the virtual viewport is still 1600x1200 (max res found in xorg.conf )
[09:01] <BillEssig> I can't wait for Hoarty.  I can't download it because my connection is crap, and I get bad MD5's EVERY time.
[09:01] <BillEssig> I'll order a cd.
[09:01] <hitriko> hey guys, i'm rahter new to linux and don't know how to fix this mistake i'm getting while trying to install xine... does anyone want to see the message?
[09:01] <adobbie> BillEssig: dialup?
[09:01] <BillEssig> Anyone else have that problem with DSL
[09:01] <BillEssig> DSL
[09:01] <BillEssig> 1.5 Meg
[09:01] <Fackamato> 1.5 meg?
[09:02] <abrs> hitriko, /msg it
[09:02] <phobosanger> can someone here help me with Java installing one Konq.?
[09:02] <BillEssig> 1.5 meg DSL
[09:02] <Quinn_Storm> I think ubuntu is one of the better things to happen to linux in a long time...I mean all that money behind an organization that actually believes in a philosophy as open & free as the dfsg, that's pretty amazing.
[09:02] <Fackamato> doesn't matter what speed it is, does it?
[09:02] <BillEssig> No.
[09:02] <BillEssig> I assume not.
[09:02] <hitriko> root@Dikjio-San:/home/hitriko/Desktop/xine-lib-1-rc6a # ./configure
[09:02] <hitriko> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[09:02] <abrs> no
[09:02] <abrs> stop
[09:02] <hitriko> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[09:03] <hitriko> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[09:03] <abrs> open a query please
[09:03] <hitriko> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[09:03] <abrs> argh
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for gawk... no
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for mawk... mawk
[09:03] <hitriko> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for style of include used by make... GNU
[09:03] <thoreauputic_> hitriko: stop flooding and don't compile xine
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for gcc... no
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for cc... no
[09:03] <abrs> hitriko, close your client
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for cc... no
[09:03] <BillEssig> JUST GET IT IN SYNAPTIC!
[09:03] <hitriko> checking for cl... no
[09:03] <hitriko> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:03] <hitriko> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:03] <hitriko> sorry -_-;
[09:03] <hitriko> :(
[09:03] <thoreauputic_> hitriko: stop it NOW
[09:03] <Tuxicity> LOL
[09:03] <hitriko> i did
[09:03] <abrs> argh
[09:03] <hitriko> i'm not pasting anything anymore!
[09:04] <abrs> thanks
[09:04] <Quinn_Storm> hitriko: to fix the problem you have, apt-get install build-essential
[09:04] <hitriko> sorry...
[09:04] <thoreauputic_> hitriko: you've succeeded in annoying the whole channel for nothing
[09:04] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic_: it could have been an accident
[09:04] <thoreauputic_> Quinn_Storm: no, he should apt-get install xine
[09:04] <thoreauputic_> not compile it
[09:04] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic_: ah, he's trying to compile xine? yeah he should install it via apt
[09:04] <hitriko> thoreauputic: i'm sorry dude
[09:05] <Quinn_Storm> thoreauputic_: I didn't look at what he was compiling
[09:05] <thoreauputic_> hitriko:  just do sudo apt-get install xine
[09:05] <thoreauputic_> hitriko: it's OK - I guess you won't be doing *that* again ;-)
[09:05] <BillEssig> (Synaptic maby?)  (It will come for you in the night)
[09:08] <abrs> BillEssig: ?
[09:08] <Loufier> owell ill have ubuntu installed soon :)
[09:08] <BillEssig> My friend asked? So in this linux, can you use winzip? Should explain
[09:09] <thoreauputic_> hitriko: if you follow that link and do as it says, it *will* work
[09:09] <Loufier> lolz
[09:09] <Loufier> why do u want to use WINZIP!
[09:09] <Loufier> for Linux
[09:09] <Loufier> ^^
[09:09] <BillEssig> Hes a little off.
[09:09] <Loufier> WINZIP FOR LINUX ^^
[09:09] <thoreauputic_> BillEssig: funnily enough, the command is `zip` *grin*
[09:10] <thoreauputic_> and unzip of course...
[09:10] <BillEssig> lol
[09:10] <Loufier> hahaha, i rember someone wanting to make mirc run on linux ^^
[09:10] <BillEssig> yea
[09:10] <georges> hi. anyone using transcode on hoary?
[09:10] <ulisse> hi all
[09:10] <Mestapheles> Tjdw: can you do a apt-get upgrade first, then either apt-get -f install or apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:10] <thoreauputic_> Linzip??  hahah
[09:10] <Dalkus> Mestapheles, yeah
[09:10] <rayde> ew i don't even use winzip in windows.... winrar is where it's at
[09:11] <Dalkus> do apt-get update first i think
[09:11] <BillEssig> Linspire... Augh. Hate it.
[09:11] <Dalkus> then upgrade, then dist-upgrade
[09:11] <BillEssig> Linzip...
[09:11] <Mestapheles> that's how I got thru it
[09:11] <Tuxicity> OpenZiper, LOL!
[09:11] <ulisse> I remember in the first days of hoary I had a tool similar to partitionmagic in the menu...
[09:12] <ulisse> what is the name of that tool?
[09:12] <thoreauputic_> FreeBSDipperZip !
[09:12] <Mestapheles> if there are anythings that were not warty released software now is the time to remove it aswell
[09:12] <thoreauputic_> ulisse: gparted or qtparted
[09:13] <ulisse> thoreauputic_, is it still somewhere in hoary?
[09:13] <PD> i installed tuxracer for the first time ever, its nice, bu does that have a sound in ti
[09:13] <PD> *it
[09:13] <thoreauputic_> ulisse: you can install it I guess - I'm on Warty here
[09:13] <Cube-ness> does anybody YET know of why some computers (seems to be newer machines with SATA) get a kernel panic, oops, failed to sync type error on any kernel newer than 2.6.8?
[09:13] <hohlraum> how did the Ubuntu guys get mr. clean to pose for that picture?
[09:13] <Cube-ness> its a hotplug issue
[09:14] <Cube-ness> something in the hotplug startup causes it to bail
[09:14] <zenrox> PD,  yes esd has to be enabled for sound
[09:14] <PD> zenrox: can you brief a little bit about esd
[09:14] <zenrox> pd your system sounds
[09:14] <PD> zenrox: how do i enable it
[09:15] <PD> yeah my systtem sounds working fine
[09:15] <ulisse> thoreauputic_, I think it was something about gnome-system-tools, 'cause it was in the menu by default...
[09:15] <zenrox> system -> settings ->sound
[09:15] <ulisse> I'll try gparted
[09:15] <darren_> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[09:15] <darren_> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:15] <darren_> What can I do to fix that problem?
[09:15] <PD> zenrox: come to think of it just now I tried my system sounds are not working
[09:15] <zenrox> darren_,  do a sudo apt-get build-essential
[09:16] <zenrox> then try compiling
[09:16] <PD> zenrox: i dont hear any sounds when I do tab tab and all that
[09:16] <kbrooks> ;)
[09:16] <darren_> thanks zenrox
[09:16] <zenrox> pd enable the sound server  and restart gnome
[09:16] <zenrox> be prepared to chage vol quickly
[09:17] <nydust> strange even when root are anable i cant login to webmin
[09:17] <PD> zenrox:  where do i restart the sound server
[09:17] <zenrox> pd system -> settings ->sound
[09:17] <LeeJunFan> nydust: webmin has it's own passwd file /etc/webmin/miniserv.users
[09:18] <nydust> LeeJunFan, by default it use the root password
[09:18] <LeeJunFan> nydust: copy your root passwd from /etc/shadow and past it in the webmin one.
[09:18] <LeeJunFan> nydust: when you install it. It copies what you have but it doesn't use the /etc/shadow file.
[09:18] <Fackamato> If I edit my xorg.conf (hoary) to include resolutions up to 1600x1200 (I only have up to 1280x960 now), how can I make the virtual viewspace to 1280x960?
[09:18] <Fackamato> Because if I select 1280x960, the virtual viewport is still 1600x1200 (max res found in xorg.conf )
[09:20] <nydust> LeeJunFan, still dosent work
[09:21] <nydust> this is strange
[09:21] <Keizer> Damn
[09:21] <Keizer> I built Java according to the guide on ubuntu guide
[09:21] <Keizer> But I don't think it installed ODBC
[09:21] <Keizer> I need ODBC so I can connect to MySQL with Java.
[09:22] <kbrooks> Keizer, it didn't
[09:22] <Keizer> Ouch >_<
[09:22] <Keizer> Tell me, how can I get it wise one with the force.
[09:22] <kbrooks> .....
[09:22] <kbrooks> dude.
[09:22] <Keizer> =)
[09:22] <LeeJunFan> nydust: /etc/init.d/webmin restart
[09:22] <nydust> done
[09:22] <Keizer> Webmin sucks >_<
[09:22] <Keizer> SSH rules
[09:23] <nydust> LeeJunFan, I MA INN
[09:23] <nydust> THANKS
[09:23] <LeeJunFan> nydust: yer welcome
[09:24] <effigy> what do i have to add to sources.list to get marillat(sp?)
[09:24] <rumpelstiltskin> leejunfan: whats more disgustung than that...?
[09:24] <thoreauputic_> effigy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:24] <thoreauputic_> that tells you all :)
[09:24] <LeeJunFan> rumpelstiltskin: look what's walking down the sidewalk - that's what.
[09:26] <rumpelstiltskin> passwd
[09:26] <rumpelstiltskin> oops
[09:27] <Keizer> Is it possible to build Java ODBC into Ubuntu?
[09:27] <Keizer> Can I use java-package src.rpm to build from a .bin JDK?
[09:28] <jnc> note,  that april 1st fools day image is hilarious
[09:28] <jnc> and awesome
[09:28] <jnc> who is the shoe? (person whom took the picture i presume)
[09:29] <hitriko> Does anyone know if i can download templates for openoffice?
[09:29] <nydust> LeeJunFan, maybe you know why webmin dont let me remote login? i have told it to allow all hosts
[09:29] <libben> This means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required.
[09:29] <effigy> that restrictedformats page dosnt tell me what i need to do for hoary
[09:29] <libben> Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.
[09:30] <cavediver> Anyone experencing problem with x64 Hoary in Gnome. I'm having trouble opening many applications at one time. The first one opens ok, but the other are just placed in the panel.
[09:30] <libben> what do they mean...
[09:30] <effigy> i go in synaptic to add custom line then do "eb ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable main" but it dosnt work
[09:30] <hawke_> effigy: "eb"?
[09:30] <effigy> deb
[09:30] <randabis> DEB not eb
[09:31] <effigy> yeah, typo
[09:31] <CarlK> "Ubunto device database" does an audio test that plays a .wav - any one knoe what the filename is?
[09:31] <hawke_> effigy: I ran into that too.
[09:31] <randabis> did you apt-get update after making the change effigy?
[09:31] <hawke_> effigy: I think it actually does add it.
[09:31] <Keizer> CarlK, Java, why does Ubuntu not have?
[09:31] <Keizer> I can build JDK for RHEL no problem
[09:31] <hawke_> effigy: try closing synaptic and looking at /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <Keizer> But Ubuntu, need something to build source from
[09:31] <randabis> Keizer: no java because it isn't GPL iirc
[09:31] <Keizer> So I can make .debs and install java ODBC
[09:31] <Keizer> OMG
[09:32] <randabis> you can use java package
[09:32] <Amaranth> Keizer: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:32] <Keizer> There's gotta be a way around it.
[09:32] <effigy> well when it goes to update the package indexes it gives me an error saying it cant get them all
[09:32] <effigy> p://ftp.nerim.net/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:32] <effigy> hmm
[09:32] <Keizer> randabis, I'm going to take the leep.
[09:32] <randabis> Keizer: just use java-package to make debs from the .bin
[09:32] <hawke_> effigy: But I think it should be 'deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main'
[09:33] <hawke_> effigy: In any case, it just changes /etc/apt/sources.list, so that's the file to look at.
[09:33] <Keizer> randabis, Okie doke
[09:33] <nydust> out with debian inn with ubuntu on my server ;)
[09:33] <effigy> okie, i shall try that
[09:34] <thoreauputic_> effigy: the sources on the wiki are correct - maybe you got the syntax slightly wrong?
[09:34] <thoreauputic_> effigy: ubuntuguide.org has the sources as well
[09:35] <LeeJunFan> nydust: sorry - at work. got called away.
[09:35] <nydust> LeeJunFan, maybe you know why webmin dont let me remote login? i have told it to allow all hosts
[09:35] <hawke_> thoreauputic_: if the wiki says just ftp.nerim.net it's wrong.
[09:35] <effigy> yeah i added the /debian-marillat/ and i got rid of the first error
[09:35] <hawke_> thoreauputic_: http://debian.video.free.fr/
[09:35] <effigy> now i get this:
[09:35] <effigy> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:35] <thoreauputic_> hawke_: it doesn't
[09:35] <hawke_> effigy: that's just a warning
[09:35] <effigy> alright
[09:35] <LeeJunFan> nydust: did you edit miniserv.conf?
[09:36] <LeeJunFan> nydust: allow=<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <nydust> LeeJunFan, yeah
[09:36] <nydust> i have loged inn and enabled allow all hosts
[09:36] <nydust> but cant get inn
[09:36] <LeeJunFan> have you tried since you restarted it?
[09:36] <nydust> yeah
[09:36] <nydust> still i cant login
[09:37] <thoreauputic_> hawke_: I used the sources from the wiki on warty and they were fine - can't speak for hoary
[09:37] <Keizer> How can I find out what files exactly that apt installed for a package so I can execute and make .deb files
[09:37] <phoenixp3k> Hello! I can't install gFTP
[09:37] <ulisse> I have no more sounds in xchat! folder ~/.xchat2/sounds doesn't exists! Why?
[09:37] <ssbob> who would I need to bribe to get the copy into ram feature back into the Live CD?
[09:38] <LeeJunFan> nydust: I dunno. I haven't tried logging into mine from remote yet :)
[09:38] <phoenixp3k>  gftp-gtk (= 2.0.17-6) mais 2.0.17-6ubuntu0.2 needed
[09:38] <phoenixp3k> how am I supposed to update just this package?
[09:39] <libben> Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation. //// I dont understand... i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it still complains...
[09:39] <libben> how do i use synaptic smart upgrade. cant find that option in syn
[09:40] <kbrooks> i have a question about xnest
[09:40] <nydust> LeeJunFan, it works now thanks
 ok
 i have a question about xnest
 it wont start gnome. why
[09:41] <Tuxicity> libben, Settings-->Preferences-->System Upgrade
[09:41] <kbrooks> anyone
[09:41] <thoreauputic_> kbrooks: are you starting it from command line? what command are you using?
[09:42] <kbrooks> Xnest :1
[09:42] <Jimbob> kbrooks: Try "gdmflexiserver -n"
[09:42] <Keizer> randabis, What's the filename to execute java-package?
[09:42] <thoreauputic_> kbrooks: try  Xnest -ac :1
[09:42] <kbrooks> Jimbob, wow thx
[09:43] <kbrooks> f***
[09:44] <kbrooks> Jimbob: cant type anything
[09:44] <Jimbob> Try explicitly clicking in the entry?
[09:45] <kbrooks> failled
[09:45] <ulisse> could someone type my name, pls? Just to test if sound works in xchat...
[09:45] <thoreauputic_> ulisse:
[09:45] <ulisse> thanks, sound not working...
[09:45] <Jimbob> hmm
[09:46] <kbrooks> ulisse
[09:46] <Xira> ulisse
[09:46] <kbrooks> ulisse
[09:46] <kbrooks> :P
[09:46] <Jimbob> kbrooks: beats me
[09:46] <Jimbob> lol
[09:46] <ulisse> Thanks a lot!
[09:46] <awb4422> is there a way to add a user to the sudo'ers group?
[09:46] <ssbob> awb4422: visudo as root
[09:46] <thoreauputic_> awb4422: visudo
[09:46] <awb4422> oh cool, thanks!
[09:47] <awb4422> when i build mythtv, the mythtv user is added, but it is not in the sudo group, and it doesnt have /bin/bash as the shell..so i want to manually change those
[09:47] <ulisse> Type it again!
[09:47] <Tuxicity> ulisse,
[09:47] <Jimbob> ulisse: We aren't your monkeys. :-P
[09:48] <ulisse> again no sound... mmmh :-(
[09:48] <Keizer> LMAO
[09:48] <bretze1> thoreauputic_: About visudo "as root" I did sudo su; then visudo but I even don;t see my username in the file ... What am I missing ?
[09:48] <Keizer> Is it safe to use sudo make-jpkg?
[09:49] <Keizer> I used fakeroot, it installs but gives tons of permission denied errors.
[09:49] <Sjoq> hello all
[09:49] <thoreauputic_> bretze1: odd - your name should be there
[09:49] <effigy> what the best music sharing program for gnome?
[09:50] <ssbob> bretze1: you're probably in the admin group, which should be there
[09:50] <Keizer> effigy, I like LimeWire
[09:50] <Keizer> SAMBA is good if you're in a dorm LOL
[09:50] <Sjoq> can ubuntu linux handle centrino technology
[09:50] <effigy> thanks, ill try it
[09:50] <Keizer> If the Kernel can handle it Ubuntu can
[09:50] <Sjoq> hmm..i wonder then a lot
[09:50] <accuser> Sjoq, works on my laptop - dell inspiron 510m
[09:50] <Sjoq> cause i want to install it on my laptop
[09:50] <Keizer> effigy, I think the Kernel 2.6 will handle it well
[09:51] <bretze1> thoreauputic_ nope... strange... /etc/sudoers has only "root    ALL=(ALL) ALL" and then "%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL" (???)
[09:51] <Sjoq> okay kewl accuser
[09:51] <Tuxicity> effigy, see ubuntuguide.org for Limewire
[09:51] <Keizer> I'm running Ubuntu on this laptop.
[09:51] <bretze1> admin group :-)
[09:51] <Sjoq> kewl kewl :)
[09:51] <Keizer> Got a nice wireless status indicator, battery life indicator and all the fluff
[09:51] <darren_> Why does xmms crash everytime I try to play an mp3?         S    18:07   0:06 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[09:55] <darren_> darren    4070  0.0  0.1   2908   552 pts/0    R+   20:54   0:00 grep esd
[09:55] <Keizer> I want to make an uber box with a cube case
[09:55] <accuser> Sjoq, careful how you type that
[09:55] <blawson> I am having problems with my Inspiron 8600 and suspend to ram, I can get it to work using the nv video drivers, but when I use the nvidia drivers I am unable to resume. I wouldnt mind just using the nv drivers, but the perfornace is absolutly terrible with them. Is there anyway I can get the nvidia drivers working?
[09:55] <Keizer> darren_, The top one
[09:55] <Sjoq> hehehehe :D
[09:55] <darren_> Keizer, what do I do?
[09:56] <bretze1> About xfce4 - xkb layout switcher pluggin: How/where can I add another layout ? see no hints in /etc/... nor in docs ...?
[09:56] <accuser> Sjoq, i've been running hoary live cd on my laptop without problems. wating for a contract to finish, then installing for real
[09:56] <Sjoq> hehehehe
[09:56] <thoreauputic_> darren_: kill the pid by number
[09:56] <josue> hi, anyone knows if there's a .deb package for openoffice 2.0beta available?
[09:56] <|QuaD-> josue: yeah... in universe
[09:57] <Keizer> darren_, Like thoreauputic_ said
[09:57] <darren_> thoreauputic_, Do I have to do that everytime I want to play an mp3?
[09:57] <Keizer> darren_, Only for that session
[09:57] <Keizer> After you reboot your computer you'll have to do it again
[09:57] <Keizer> Unless
[09:57] <thoreauputic_> darren_: no once it's deed it stays dead :)
[09:57] <thoreauputic_> *dead
[09:57] <Keizer> You select your output plugin to be eSound
[09:58] <ulisse> ok, now sound is working.
[09:58] <Keizer> If your output plugin is set for eSound theoretically it would work.
[09:58] <cyklus> Using a Thinkpad im having problems with unusually high power drain on my battery.. after installing ubuntu i only get about 30min battery life... vs. 2 hours before... any help appriciated?
[09:58] <darren_> Keizer, how would I do that?
[09:58] <ulisse> Thanks to all.
[09:58] <Keizer> LOL
[09:58] <Kamakazie> anyone tried ntold Legends?
[09:58] <Keizer> darren_, kill -15 esdpid
[09:58] <Keizer> darren_, You don't know which one is the eSound Process ID (esdpid)
[09:59] <thoreauputic_> darren_: you can set the xmms output plugin in the prefs foe xmms
[09:59] <Keizer> darren_, Try out Beep-Media-Player
[09:59] <Keizer> I recommend Beep-Media-Player to everyone
[10:00] <Keizer> It's a sweet player that supports Winamp skins
[10:00] <Keizer> It's awesome
[10:00] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: I liked it at first - but I find xmms more reliable here
[10:00] <darren_> Same as xmms
[10:00] <Sjoq> when is hoary coming out/
[10:00] <|QuaD-> Sjoq: april 6 i believe
[10:00] <scizzo> Sjoq: in April sometime
[10:00] <Sjoq> kewl
[10:00] <darren_> The output plugin is OSS DRiver 1.2.10 [libOSS.so]
[10:00] <Tuxicity> somebody said april 8
[10:01] <Keizer> thoreauputic_, too bad, beep-media-player is a champ on my 1.6Ghz 256MB RAM box.
[10:01] <Sjoq> i wonder..shall i install warty or not
[10:01] <thoreauputic_> darren_: so change the plugin
[10:01] <Keizer> LOL
[10:01] <Keizer> I like using OSS
[10:01] <|QuaD-> Sjoq: whatever you want :)
[10:01] <darren_> I changed it to ALSA
[10:01] <scizzo>  April 8th: Hoary Hedgehog Final
[10:01] <Sjoq> lol
[10:02] <scizzo> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule
[10:02] <dabeej> ummm
[10:02] <Sjoq> need user opinions :D
[10:02] <darren_> Anyone know where I can get the w32codecs deb package?
[10:02] <dabeej> ubuntu april fools joke?
[10:02] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: yes, it's odd - beep tends to freeze where xmms doesn't - haven't found the problem yet
[10:02] <darren_> ok
[10:02] <Mirv> my eyeeeeeeeees.. noooo.. shouldn't have done anything with hoary today :)
[10:02] <dabeej> Mirv, what i said =)
[10:03] <thoreauputic_> darren_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:03] <darren_> thanks once again thoreauputic_  :P
[10:03] <Keizer> thoreauputic_, beep-media-player is awesome
[10:04] <Keizer> Install Hoary, Warty is old
[10:04] <Keizer> I think java-package did it
[10:04] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: so everyone says - to me it looks just like xmms except for the menus
[10:04] <Mr-Petah> hi
[10:04] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: it even uses the same skins
[10:05] <Mr-Petah> question: how to add a new source to apt-get?
[10:05] <Mr-Petah> :s
[10:05] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: I must have missed omething
[10:05] <Keizer> thoreauputic_, It's the pwn
[10:05] <darren_> Mr-Petah,  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse
[10:05] <tjmaster> hello
[10:05] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: why? What's so much better about it?
[10:05] <tjmaster> hola
[10:06] <bobesponja> if I make my /dev/hda5 bootable (with cfdisk) will that wipe out all the data on it?
[10:06] <Keizer> thoreauputic_, It's awesome, supports Winamp skins
[10:06] <Mr-Petah> hola / hi
[10:06] <Keizer> And it looks like winamp
[10:06] <Keizer> Like Windows was my home
[10:06] <Keizer> Now Linux is my home
[10:06] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: so does xmms
[10:06] <Keizer> Like i've got a little piece of windows with me =D
[10:06] <Keizer> XMMS is too old for me man
[10:06] <Keizer> I used it years ago, I like to see new projects like BMP
[10:06] <tjmaster> alguien habla espanol
[10:06] <tjmaster> ?
[10:06] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: it sounds the same :-)
[10:06] <Mr-Petah> darren_, ok, $ sudo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse   ????????
[10:06] <kay> hello, i think i need to mix Ubuntu with Debian
[10:07] <Tuxicity> tjmaster, #ubuntu-es
[10:07] <thoreauputic_> Keizer: which is the test for a sound app, No?
[10:07] <tjmaster> gracias
[10:07] <darren_> Mr-Petah, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.3414506543
[10:07] <Tuxicity> tjmaster, no problemo
[10:07] <kay> can it be done, I have seen that in this case, packages with same name, but different sizes confuse apt
[10:07] <Mr-Petah> yo, pero aqui solo ingles ;)
[10:07] <Mr-Petah> darren, tnx ;)
[10:07] <Keizer> thoreauputic_, I only use BMP now.
[10:07] <kay> I only want to install gcc4-0 from them
[10:08] <Mr-Petah> i go to read, back now
[10:08] <thoreauputic_> kay: don't mix debian with ubuntu Bad Things 9tm) can happen
[10:08] <Keizer> Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Data source rejected establishment of connection,  message from server: "Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server" -- Pain
[10:08] <thoreauputic_> heh (tm)
[10:08] <GNAM> wow a short topic incredible
[10:08] <Mr-Petah> ok, but only have this: deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[10:08] <kbrooks> kay: .....
[10:09] <Mr-Petah> :s
[10:09] <kay> kbrooks: yes? :)
[10:09] <blawson>  I am having problems with my Inspiron 8600 and suspend to ram, I can get it to work using the nv video drivers, but when I use the nvidia drivers I am unable to resume. I wouldnt mind just using the nv drivers, but the performance is absolutly terrible with them. Is there anyway I can get the nvidia drivers working?
[10:10] <Keizer> blawson, How did you install? init 3 and run their sh script?
[10:11] <blawson> Keizer: I installed it with the Nvidia .run file from Nvidia's site, also I tried it through apt-get, neither worked
[10:11] <blawson> the nvidia drivers work, just not with suspending
[10:11] <darren_> thoreauputic_, I can't find any info on w32codecs
[10:11] <massimiliano> hello to all...i am italian....excuse for my english but i have a problem with my hoary...
[10:11] <Keizer> blawson, Search Google for NVIDIA suspend mode or something like that.
[10:12] <Keizer> NVIDIA Linux Suspend mode
[10:12] <nydust> where are the mysql lib?
[10:12] <nydust> and mysql database dir?
[10:12] <Keizer> nydust, /var/
[10:12] <thoreauputic_> darren_: if you have those repositories, you can just apt-get install them
[10:12] <massimiliano> i have the problems with the change of icons in hoary
[10:12] <Keizer> nydust, You installing php with --with-mysql=/var/lib/ ?
[10:12] <darren_> thoreauputic_, I've added them but can't find it
[10:12] <blawson> Ok, i'll give that a shot, I've been looking through forums for something similar but havent found any answers
[10:12] <massimiliano> There is someone that can help me?
[10:13] <nydust> Keizer, i did apt-get install
[10:13] <Keizer> blawson, The NVIDIA forum may have them
[10:13] <thoreauputic_> darren_: apt-cache search w32codecs
[10:13] <Keizer> nydust, sudo locate -u
[10:13] <Keizer> nydust, Then do locate mysql.h
[10:14] <thoreauputic_> darren_: have you reloaded or done sudo apt-get update?
[10:15] <nydust> Keizer, i get no such file or dir
[10:15] <Keizer> nydust, I'll have your answer in a sec
[10:15] <darren_> thoreauputic_,  I've reloaded
[10:16] <Echylo> hmm I get next error :configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages
[10:16] <Echylo> what do I need to install
[10:16] <Echylo> I have xorg btw
[10:16] <ruisoto> hey someone knows about a change in the login screen, i see some guys imitating the three holding persons
[10:16] <thoreauputic_> darren_: what does  apt-cache search w32codecs say?
[10:16] <ruisoto> is this a hack, aprils fool day or what_
[10:16] <Echylo> ruisoto that's the ubuntu logo, probably a april fools, by the development team
[10:16] <Keizer> nydust, I believe I installed with apt-get as well
[10:16] <thoreauputic_> ruisoto: what do you think?
[10:17] <ruisoto> i dont know...
[10:17] <darren_> thoreauputic_, nothing
[10:17] <ruisoto> looks weird
[10:17] <ruisoto> im scared
[10:17] <darren_> apt-get install w32codes gives this:
[10:17] <darren_> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:17] <darren_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:17] <darren_> is only available from another source
[10:17] <darren_> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:17] <nydust> Keizer, its in /var/lib/mysql i found it
[10:17] <Echylo> anyway knows what the xfree86 development packages are? I need to solve this configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages ?
[10:17] <thoreauputic_> darren_: you've made a mistake of some kind
[10:17] <Keizer> nydust, LOL that's what I said from the beginning
[10:17] <ruisoto> so it is aprils fool day thing_
[10:17] <Keizer> Good job
[10:17] <darren_> thoreauputic_, I added the marilliat repos like it said
[10:17] <thoreauputic_> darren_: if you have the marillat repos, the codecs are there
[10:17] <nydust> darren_, apt-get didnt work for me.. use synaptic and search for it
[10:18] <darren_> nydust, I have
[10:19] <thoreauputic_> darren_: what does ` sudo apt-get install w32codecs` say?
[10:19] <dabugas> hi
[10:19] <nydust> darren_, ;) thanks
[10:19] <dabugas> what do i need to paly wavs?
[10:19] <dabugas> paly=play
[10:20] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: have you tried? Any music player can handle wav ...
[10:21] <dabugas> thoreauputic: i know! :) xmms and sound-recorder just ignore me when i press play, although i can hear mp3s, oggs and whatnot
[10:21] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: or even type `  aplay  <name of wav file>
[10:22] <LittleWashu> Have you guys heard about it yet?
[10:23] <darren_> thoreauputic_,  I had to add the repos through terminal, synaptic wasn't adding properly
[10:23] <LittleWashu> Cuz I've been hearing a little this and that about Ubuntu having a kernal panic attack. Could you tell me is true and if I have one what the fuck should I do?
[10:23] <dabugas> thoreauputic: aplay works!
[10:23] <thoreauputic_> darren_: ah - interesting...
[10:24] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: try changing the output plugin to alsa then
[10:24] <thoreauputic_> in xmms
[10:24] <kbrooks> ok
[10:24] <kbrooks> ummm. i gtg
[10:24] <jagera27> can someone tell me from which folder i need to extract/install latest firefox to make it clickable from the top toolbar icon, please
[10:25] <dabugas> thoreauputic: esd, alsa & oss (the last of which was what i was using) don't work...
[10:25] <dabugas> thoreauputic: could it be something to do with gnome's esd daemon? or am i just talking nonsense? :)
[10:26] <thoreauputic_> jagera27: it doesn't matter as long as you type the fukk path to the firefox script in the command field of your custom launcher
[10:26] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: it could be indeed
[10:26] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: are you  on hoary ?
[10:27] <thoreauputic_> jagera27: oops  s/fukk/full ;-)
[10:27] <thoreauputic_> nice typo ...
[10:27] <jagera27> ta, at the moment it just says 'firefox', i'll try the full path, thanks
[10:27] <tenz> hi
[10:28] <thoreauputic_> jagera27: or make a symlink in /usr/local/bin
[10:28] <dabugas> thoreauputic: more or less ;) i've half-updated from warty which is probably why i have various problems like this :)
[10:28] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: could well be
[10:28] <dabugas> thoreauputic: anyway i killed the esd daemon and it still doesn't work from xmms w/ oss, but is playing on aplay
[10:29] <tenz> has anybody installed "Ardour" (soundcreation programm) on Ubuntu hoary?
[10:29] <dabugas> thoreauputic: well, what sort of thing would i still have to update to get fscking gnome to work properly? :)
[10:29] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: that way it oes direct to alsa
[10:29] <dabugas> thoreauputic: which way?
[10:29] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: dunno really - I'm still using warty :)
[10:29] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: aplay is alsa player
[10:30] <libben> my webcam got identified.... what program to check the feed?
[10:30] <dabugas> thoreauputic: well, the alsa doesn't work in xmms
[10:30] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: hmmm
[10:31] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: I quite often just play music from the cli with e.g. mpg321 *.mp3
[10:31] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: not pretty but quick and practical
[10:32] <dabugas> i don't use that many wavs and since aplay works, i'm okay
[10:32] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: I guess aplay would do that too (play the whole dir - if you need it)
[10:32] <dabugas> but switching to linux for me (because i do have the occasional digression into windows) is all about FREAKING WORKING! :)
[10:32] <dabugas> it's just one wav i wanted to listen to, no problem :)
[10:33] <dabugas> just wish xmms behaved :)
[10:33] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: sound and multimedia are tricky areas in linux because of patents and restrictions
[10:33] <libben> my webcam got identified.... what program to check the feed?
[10:33] <tenz> has anybody installed "Ardour" (soundcreation programm) on Ubuntu hoary? (I think I have a problem with "jack")
[10:34] <dabugas> thoreauputic: i know. i'm still pretty useless but i've been with linux for many years. i remember when usb was a new thing :)
[10:34] <dabugas> and even further back, although i don't actually remember that much (frustrated nights-hair pulling-you kind of regress all that)
[10:34] <kkathman> greetings all :)
[10:34] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: laddy, I programmed in fortran on an IBM 360 with punch-cards ;)
[10:35] <dabugas> thoreauputic: i'm not showing off my age; i was simply trying to say i've seen tougher times in linux. i used lynx regularly for chrissakes :)
[10:35] <kkathman> thoreauputic_, no kidding...you and I belong to the same era I think :)
[10:36] <thoreauputic_> kkathman: I've forgotten everything, unfortunately ;-)
[10:36] <kkathman> thoreauputic_, I started in high school learning fortran on a timeshare TTY with paper tape :)
[10:36] <dabugas> thoreauputic: my first machine was an amstrad that used a TAPE RECORDER. I'm an english paper. I like paper. I'd go with punch-cards any day of the week.
[10:36] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: sure, i was just being the annoying old fart :)
[10:37] <spear> hi !
[10:37] <kkathman> dabugas, I remember putting together my first PC, it had a whopping 4MB of memory and used a cassette player for loading programs..no floppy or harddrive :)
[10:37] <dabugas> thoreauputic: be the annoying old fart. i definately intend to when my children (or somebody's) are saying that they don't have enough nuclear reactors to power their 6D virtual reality machines... ;)
[10:38] <thoreauputic_> kkathman: we had to type our stuff onto cards with a mechanical punch card keyboard :)
[10:38] <dabugas> kkathman: that's more or less like what i had
[10:38] <dabugas> but i got it in the late 80s, being in greece, we were somewhat slow in developing
[10:38] <kkathman> thoreauputic_, In college I remember doing that  but we also had access to timeshare on a CDC 6600
[10:39] <thoreauputic_> kkathman: we also did some simple assembler stuff on a PDP-11
[10:39] <kkathman> thoreauputic_, all those cards....all those JCLs...and woe to you if you dropped the deck!
[10:39] <dabugas> kkathman: although 4MB of memory sounds like a lot; can't be sure though. it's been too long
[10:39] <thoreauputic_> that was a long time ago...
[10:39] <velocity_kendall> hey
[10:39] <velocity_kendall> can someone give me some guidance
[10:39] <velocity_kendall> how do i play xvid in ubuntu 5.04?
[10:40] <thoreauputic_> kkathman: indeed! It was so exciting when something actually compiled and ran!
[10:40] <kkathman> dabugas, that PC at that time was a step up from the old IMSAI .. it had a firmware boot rather than actual toggling switches to boot (ala PDP)
[10:40] <velocity_kendall> how do i play xvid in ubuntu 5.04?
[10:40] <velocity_kendall> anyone?
[10:40] <DXT> say anyone managed to get sound working in ventrlo (wine)?
[10:40] <Berserker> hi people! installer cant find info about partition table of my IDE HDD. But in near console i can list it by `fdisk -l` and mount all partitions to any mountpoints
[10:41] <DXT> velocity check the "Mutimedia HOWTO" @ ubuntuforums->ubuntu 5.04 hoary->HOWTOs & FAQs
[10:42] <velocity_kendall> yeah i found it! cheers
[10:42] <kkathman> Question:  Does anyone know of like a resource that cross references software that is available with the "apt-get" names?  I mean besides using , say, synaptic?
[10:42] <dabugas> kkathman: you baffle me with your terminology. the computer i described to you was the first computer i used. i didn't actually know how it worked. only what rudimentary BASIC was needed to run the occasional game (which took 15 minutes to load from tape;)
[10:43] <dabugas> kkathman: what do you mean, like "apt-cache search <whatever>" ?
[10:44] <kkathman> dabugas,  Well I dont know if you remember a company named "Heathkit" but they sponsored San Antonio based company that sold kits for PCs. You bought it, then you literally put it together components and all
[10:44] <Slask3n> does hoary have the newest version of GnuPG (1.4.1)?
[10:44] <dmoyne> I have a problem when opening a file with accentuated charcaters in its name with GIMP ; where tos ak to know how to fix this ? ; thaks.
[10:44] <velocity_kendall> why does firefox 1.0.2 show up in synaptic?
[10:44] <velocity_kendall> i tried enabling all the repositories
[10:44] <velocity_kendall> the only way is to get it from the mozilla site?
[10:45] <velocity_kendall> i mean, why does it NOT show up
[10:45] <drbombay43> yellow all, can or will somebody please tell me where to find info on mp3 playback in rhythm-box?
[10:45] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, are you on hoary?
[10:45] <velocity_kendall> yes
[10:45] <thoreauputic_> dmoyne: try running gimp <firstfewletters TAB TAB > from commandline
[10:45] <kkathman> dabugas, Well, what I was looking for was...Lots of times Im looking for a particular software solution for something, say a DVD Writer. Where do you go to look for "DVD Writers" for Linux and then get the appropriate name that apt-get would use on install?
[10:45] <kkathman> Other than say Google :)
[10:46] <dabugas> kkathman: i don't what they did in san antonia; they sold actually computers here :p
[10:46] <velocity_kendall> Ubuntu package 1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 apparently
[10:46] <velocity_kendall> why can't i just have 1.0.2 :(
[10:46] <kkathman> dabugas - in 1975 they didnt :)
[10:46] <dmoyne> thoreauputic : what is tthsi supposed to do ?
[10:46] <uggwar> when starting eclipse from a launcher, JAVA_HOME etc. isn't found. any idea where I should put the variables? I have them in /etc/bash.bashrc now
[10:46] <dabugas> kkathman: i use "apt-cache search" with relevant keywords to find software adn then apt-get to get them. synaptic is ugly and crappy ;)
[10:46] <thoreauputic_> dmoyne: tab complete the file name for you
[10:47] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, for me it's mozilla-firefox 1.0.2 1.0.2-0ubuntu2
[10:47] <HighlanderMcLoud> back to ubuntu mantra
[10:47] <thoreauputic_> dmoyne: thus hopefully bypassing the parsing error
[10:47] <HighlanderMcLoud> hi guys and girls
[10:47] <dabugas> kkathman: i wasn't even born in 1975 :) btw, what do you mean by dvd writer? a ripper or a recorder?
[10:47] <velocity_kendall> i have gone to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
[10:47] <kkathman> dabugas, Ill try that next time
[10:47] <velocity_kendall> and there is a 1.0.2 version
[10:47] <velocity_kendall> do i have the right repository selected?
[10:47] <March-RX8> hello
[10:47] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, that was going to be my question
[10:48] <kkathman> dabugas,  looking to do backups of data to DVDs or make/edit videos and burning DVDs
[10:48] <velocity_kendall> well i have the basic ones selected
[10:48] <March-RX8> could someone help me with ubuntu
[10:48] <velocity_kendall> i haven't added any repositories custom
[10:48] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, in synaptic i have all the deb repositories marked
[10:48] <dmoyne> thoreauputic : yes but I do not see how this is going to solve my problem ! ; GIMP is reporting this error message "file-utils.c:272: cannot convert filename to UTF-8: Invalid byte sequence in conversion input"
[10:48] <kkathman> velocity_kendall, Are you on hoary or  warty?
[10:48] <thoreauputic_> March-RX8: not unless you ask a question ;-)
[10:48] <velocity_kendall> hoary
[10:49] <velocity_kendall> i don't understand, if i surf to http:.../ubuntu/pool/main
[10:49] <Loufier> can someone tell me wat koary and warty is
[10:49] <kkathman> velocity_kendall, You should just be able to do an upgrade and it will get you to 1.0.2
[10:49] <velocity_kendall> there is LOADS of new stuff
[10:49] <thoreauputic_> dmoyne: I see
[10:49] <velocity_kendall> but none of this comes up on my synaptic
[10:49] <Loufier> *hoary
[10:49] <March-RX8> how can i add a package source for my system?
[10:49] <thoreauputic_> dmoyne: can you rename the file?
[10:49] <velocity_kendall> kkathman how do i upgrade?
[10:49] <dabugas> kkathman: i just searched for just "dvd" which gave me 4.5 terminal pages, each line a single package. This is easily readable, in my opinion. Now, i'm unhappily discovering that there's no k3b-like program in gnome. Graveman and gcombust are very, very poor.
[10:49] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, synaptic
[10:50] <velocity_kendall> what do i press?
[10:50] <kkathman> velocity_kendall, you do an apt-get update, then an apt-get upgrade
[10:50] <velocity_kendall> is my synaptic reading the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ place?
[10:50] <uggwar> dabugas, gnomebaker is quite nice
[10:50] <velocity_kendall> that's where all the software seems to be
[10:50] <kbrooks> s/upgrade/dist-upgrade/
[10:50] <velocity_kendall> i don't understand
[10:50] <dmoyne> thoreauputic : I have hundreds of files of the sort ; it opens my file with accentuated characters but names it "Untitled" !
[10:50] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, no
[10:50] <thoreauputic_> March-RX8: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[10:50] <kkathman> velocity_kendall, you'll need to make sure your sources.list is accurate however
[10:50] <uggwar> dabugas, http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/
[10:50] <dabugas> uggwar: is it in the ubuntu archives?
[10:50] <March-RX8> thanks
[10:51] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, ^^^ read the howto too
[10:51] <uggwar> dabugas, nope. you'll have to use checkinstall
[10:51] <Slask3n> why doesnt hoary have the newest version of GnuPG?
[10:51] <thoreauputic_> uggwar: there are packages
[10:51] <dabugas> Loufier: warty and hoary are version of ubuntu. Warty is the older one; Hoary is the one no being prepared and up for official release in april 25 or so, if i remember correctly
[10:52] <cyklus> whats the difference between the radeon and ati driver for ati cards??
[10:52] <dabugas> uggwar: is there a deb or rpm (for alien) anywhere? i prefer that
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: gnomebaker packages: http://people.debian.org/~goedson/packages/ubuntu/
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> dabugas: ^^^^^
[10:52] <uggwar> thoreauputic_, ah nice. but it wasn't such a big job though :)
[10:52] <velocity_kendall> what is the purpose of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ then?
[10:52] <velocity_kendall> what is that pool directory for?
[10:52] <velocity_kendall> does synaptic look in there?
[10:52] <velocity_kendall> where does it look
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> uggwar: checkinstall is handy :)
[10:53] <Loufier> is hoary better then warty..?
[10:53] <velocity_kendall> can someone tell me how i update to firefox 1.0.2 in synaptic
[10:53] <Loufier> its got a higher version numba :P
[10:53] <DXT> roses are red, violets are blue, from all the distros out there, i love ubuntu! :p
[10:53] <velocity_kendall> synaptic says the latest version is 1.0+
[10:53] <mdz> velocity_kendall: wait a week and upgrade to Ubuntu 5.04
[10:53] <Berserker> Is anyone knows answer in my question about Ubuntu installer ?
[10:54] <uggwar> thoreauputic_, it is a beauty
[10:54] <kkathman> back in a bit..
[10:54] <mdz> Berserker: your question was not entirely clear
[10:54] <thoreauputic_> Loufier: hoary is the newer version
[10:54] <DXT> Anyone managed to get Ventrilo working with sound? (wine)
[10:54] <uggwar> thoreauputic_, but it has acctually kept me from learning package building, so i have my grudges towards it ;)
[10:54] <velocity_kendall> can someone PLEASE help me understand this
[10:54] <Loufier> i got the RC, can u upgrade that to the next version?
[10:54] <thoreauputic_> Loufier: hoary will be official in a week or so
[10:55] <tck> Loufier, yup
[10:55] <DXT> loufier it is does automatically via synaptic
[10:55] <Loufier> k, just wondering cuz i downlaoded and burnt it now :P
[10:55] <velocity_kendall> why does my synaptic say the latest firefox is 1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 ?!
[10:55] <velocity_kendall> why does my synaptic say the latest firefox is 1.0+dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 ?!
[10:55] <velocity_kendall> anyone?
[10:55] <DXT> i mean, just update and dist-upgrade
[10:55] <Loufier> velocity just install the newest package manually  or just wait, it realli doesnt matter..
[10:55] <thoreauputic_> velocity_kendall: because the 1.0.2 hasn't been packaged yet, probably
[10:55] <Loufier> aint much diffrence
[10:56] <velocity_kendall> thoreauputic then what is this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
[10:56] <Slask3n> why doesn't hoary have the newest version of GnuPG? the newest version i can find is 1.2.5 but the newest is 1.4.1
[10:56] <mz2> aargh, the april's fool gdm theme freaked me out completely :)
[10:57] <velocity_kendall> thoreauputic then what is this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
[10:57] <velocity_kendall> ?
[10:57] <dabugas> thoreauputic & uggwar: thanks! :)
[10:57] <uggwar> dabugas, np! :)
[10:57] <thoreauputic_> velocity_kendall: development packages, by the look of it
[10:57] <DXT> mz2 - blah now i wont be surprised! :P
[10:57] <Loufier> 200gbs of obsolute crap and doesnt mattare wat i do..
[10:57] <Loufier> ill lose something important :P
[10:57] <dabugas> Slask3n: can't really tell, but the feature of ubuntu is generally stability
[10:57] <velocity_kendall> development packages? what are they? how do you know?! firefox 1.0.2 is out for download not in development man
[10:57] <uggwar> dabugas, i was quite happy when i found it myself. take a look at www.gnomefiles.org, if you haven't allready
[10:57] <Loufier> and figure it out wen i wipe it hahha
[10:58] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, may i clarify
[10:58] <uggwar> dabugas, many nice apps to find
[10:58] <March-RX8> does not mplayer for ubuntu exist?
[10:58] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, firefox is out for dl.
[10:58] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, BUT
[10:58] <thoreauputic_> velocity_kendall: chill
[10:58] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, and i mean but
[10:59] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, you see, ther are 2 branches.
[10:59] <velocity_kendall> twell i would if people gimmie straight knowledgeable answers
[10:59] <Slask3n> dabugas: i use 1.4.1 now, and my system is stable... can this package be added?
[10:59] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, warty and hoary
[10:59] <velocity_kendall> so far within the linux community this ain't happened once!
[10:59] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, hoary is the development version
[10:59] <thoreauputic_> March-RX8: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:59] <dabugas> uggwar: what i liked about debian (and by extension, ubuntu) is the package system. i try to avoid encumbering my sources.list, but i'm going to bookmark that site. just in case :)
[10:59] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, hello?
[10:59] <velocity_kendall> i'm listening
[11:00] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, ok
[11:00] <velocity_kendall> so whyu did someone just tell me they had 1.0.2 in their synaptic on hoary?!
[11:00] <velocity_kendall> eh?!
[11:00] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, are you on warty or hoary
[11:00] <velocity_kendall> hoary
[11:00] <uggwar> dabugas, yeah, i agree. but it is nice that locally built packages show up in its own section in synaptic. so you can easily remove them
[11:00] <nydust> where are php.ini?
[11:00] <dabugas> Slask3n: i am unfortunately a mere user, so i can't help you, sorry. i don't really know who you can direct this question to.
[11:00] <velocity_kendall> i would like to know how to upgrade to fireforx 1.0.2  from with synpatic
[11:01] <velocity_kendall> i thought synaptic could get ANY program
[11:01] <uggwar> dabugas, have you used checkinstall?
[11:01] <kbrooks> it can.
[11:01] <keyhack> what is the name of the application to configure wireless? (need the actual command name and/or package)
[11:01] <velocity_kendall> there 1.0.2 firefox please
[11:01] <velocity_kendall> why not?!
[11:01] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, can, not cant
[11:01] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, READ CAREFULLY
[11:01] <Loufier> just not the newest firefox ;) but onli for u ;)
[11:01] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, just get the right repositories in synaptic, reload and upgrade
[11:01] <velocity_kendall> what are the right ones?!
[11:01] <velocity_kendall> how am i supposed to know
[11:02] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, pm me please. thanks
[11:02] <velocity_kendall> theres about 200 different damn directories to choose from
[11:02] <dabugas> uggwar: no. what is it?
[11:02] <velocity_kendall> there is dists, main, pool, universe, i don't understand it all
[11:02] <Loufier> ^^
[11:02] <carlos-d-man> hi guys, just installed, GDM login is cute but, I have no root password :S
[11:02] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, I don't know where are you, but I have only few and can give them to you ;)
[11:02] <uggwar> dabugas, if you can't find a .deb for your newly found app, just do .configure, make and checkinstall to build your own package
[11:03] <dabugas> velocity_kendall: chill out man. i don't have the newest firefox either. :)
[11:03] <carlos-d-man> I don't recall being asked by the installer for a root password, so what is it? or how may I recover?
[11:03] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[11:03] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: you're not supposed to :)
[11:03] <keyhack> what is the name of the application to configure wireless? (need the actual command name and/or package)
[11:03] <velocity_kendall> i#m not so concerend about having the latest firefox
[11:03] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: the default install in ubuntu only has users and you sudo for root privileges
[11:03] <velocity_kendall> i don't give a shit about that
[11:03] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[11:03] <velocity_kendall> i just want to understand why i can download it from mozilla.com but not using apt get/synaptic
[11:04] <velocity_kendall> see
[11:04] <thoreauputic> velocity_kendall: your attitude is frankly obnoxious
[11:04] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[11:04] <carlos-d-man> dabugas no root password?
[11:04] <velocity_kendall> well don't make out like i'm all about getting the latest version. i simply want to understand how this works
[11:05] <dabugas> uggwar: ah, yes. with debian i have done away with source. one of the great lessons taught by windows. i don't want to wait 3/4 of an hour to compile mozilla. okay? :p on the other hands my brother loves this thing.... it takes all kinds :)
[11:05] <dabugas> wb thoreauputic, btw
[11:05] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, if you have these repositories - they come as standart with Ubuntu you can have firefox 1.0.2
[11:05] <carlos-d-man> dabugas I will use it for multiuser! I can't allow any moron access to sudo!
[11:05] <velocity_kendall> lionBG i have those
[11:05] <thoreauputic> velocity_kendall: the packages have to be added to thr ubuntu archive
[11:05] <velocity_kendall> i have every single repository selected
[11:05] <velocity_kendall> everything, even the CD
[11:05] <DXT> Help, I can't see the volume icon in the panel, adding it doesnt help nor doesnt switching themes or killing gnome-panel or restarting
[11:06] <velocity_kendall> there is 8 different repositories in total
[11:06] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, than look fo mozilla-firefox 1.0.2 package - should be there
[11:06] <velocity_kendall> it's not
[11:06] <kakalto> http://www.scmagazine.com/news/index.cfm?fuseaction=newsDetails&newsUID=d5ee7707-4e08-49f9-8bdf-299e79743c18&newsType=Latest%20News
[11:06] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: check out this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo/ & http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root/
[11:07] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, i have only the deb marked and nothing added and I see it
[11:07] <velocity_kendall> lionBG what do you mean the deb?
[11:07] <velocity_kendall> i cannot see the word 'deb' anywhere in the repository list
[11:07] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: also, if you're going to run a multiuser system and don't know how to introduce a root user simply by using sudo, be prepared :)
[11:08] <lionBG> there are deb repositories and deb-src
[11:08] <velocity_kendall> deb?!
[11:08] <velocity_kendall> to me it says Binary and Source
[11:09] <thoreauputic> velocity_kendall: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:09] <velocity_kendall> you want me to type that or what?
[11:09] <thoreauputic> yes
[11:09] <NetGeek> what is the best ftp server for ubuntu?
[11:09] <thoreauputic> in a terminal to see your sources
[11:09] <velocity_kendall> now what?
[11:09] <NetGeek> vsftpd or proftpd?
[11:09] <thoreauputic> velocity_kendall: READ IT
[11:10] <velocity_kendall> can we please avoid terminal i prefer gui
[11:10] <carlos-d-man> this sudo thinguie is cute, so my main first user account may sudo, how may I make sure the rest of the users can't
[11:10] <dabugas> thoreauputic: LOL
[11:10] <carlos-d-man> ?
[11:10] <velocity_kendall> i'm about using a computer not hacking
[11:10] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, terminal doesnt equal cracking
[11:10] <thoreauputic> velocity_kendall: this isn't hacking - it's reading 101
[11:10] <kbrooks> in fact, in your context, you meant cracking
[11:10] <velocity_kendall> i just dont see why people say do terminal command
[11:10] <velocity_kendall> i'm used to windows man
[11:11] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: honestly, i don't know; i'm not running a multi-user system :)
[11:11] <velocity_kendall> can i not just see my 'sources' in synaptic?
[11:11] <carlos-d-man> btw I have lot'sa RAM, what do you guys recommend I copy to and use out of /ramdisk?
[11:11] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, well, i have a idea, maybe i can help you through vnc
[11:11] <thoreauputic> velocity_kendall: that's a pity - would you like to learn?
[11:11] <velocity_kendall> not really
[11:11] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, you can
[11:11] <velocity_kendall> i want to use the computer for music, internet, etc, not programming
[11:11] <lionBG> velocity_kendall, you can see them
[11:11] <kbrooks> velocity_kendall, see what i said above
[11:12] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: basically, sudo su and write yerself a password. then create a new user and see if you can sudo, juding by the fledling account my bro made on my computer they shouldn't be able to sudo
[11:12] <carlos-d-man> dabugas ubuntu is desktop central and I like the idea because I am providing desktop to many remote X users but my RAM question is in regards to speed :)
[11:12] <NoeWon> we must not walk the path of the passwd crackers, so sayith the spider
[11:12] <dabugas> NoeWon: ;)
[11:13] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: try out what i told you. i'm too bored to try it out myself, but it should work :)
[11:13] <NoeWon> nither shall we take our laptops downtown in search of hot spots because we are better than that we are better than those phisers and phreakers as well. Why? Why you ask? Becasue we are the few, we are the proud.  Im glad I had knoppix to the rescue ftm hehe
[11:15] <NoeWon> ??? phearking what ???
[11:15] <NoeWon> you accually do it physically?
[11:16] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: a) you can also get an ubuntu live cd but i haven't tried it b) pppoe? if you're talking about a modem connection try wvdial (for console) and gnome-ppp (for gui) otherwise i've no idea what you are talking about
[11:16] <NoeWon> I didn't think people were still doing that, it's all bout the cell phones now
[11:16] <thoreauputic> and the Word of the Sage came unto us, saying, thou shalt not learn the ways of Linux without opening a terminal and reading the wisdom therein...
[11:16] <NoeWon> I'm going to try to get into puff daddys Tmobile
[11:17] <dabugas> NoeWon: well i had tried phreaking when i was in highschool or so; that wasn't so long ago and i live in greece. the phone system used to be easily absuseable. not now, anymore
[11:17] <zenrox> thoreauputic, aka RTFM
[11:17] <zenrox> hehehehe
[11:17] <NoeWon> Naw, I'm playin I was just joking I wouldn't hack any sidekick. lol.j/k
[11:18] <thoreauputic> and the people marveled, saying, we had not realised that computers could do as they were told: the Windows help desk told us many falsehoods...
[11:18] <NoeWon> Seriouly, whoever hit pairs's sidekick was a bastard
[11:18] <NoeWon> and don't do drugs
[11:18] <carlos-d-man> dabugas neather, I mean ADSL with roaring penguin's PPP-over-ethernet, in other distros it's rp-pppoe package :)
[11:19] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: i know not of what you seek. go rattle some bones or skin a goat. perhaps the answers will be found there within.
[11:19] <carlos-d-man> btw guys, installation offered to install the remaining language packages that are not included on the installation CD, I said no fearing it would not conclude installation when not being able to connect so, how may I get them?
[11:21] <carlos-d-man> dabugas fyi "el chupacabras" means "the goat licker" hehe
[11:21] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: chupacabras?
[11:22] <ikaro> or "chupa cabra" which if what I say to my gf.
[11:22] <ikaro> if/is
[11:22] <keyhack> what package provides "system-config-network" ?
[11:23] <folta> hey everyone. i seem to have lost wireless access
[11:24] <carlos-d-man> dabugas a few years ago the chupacabras made NATIONAL headlines about goats being blood sucked over night, most ignotant morons reported that they believed it must have been a from bat's variation to some sort of alien to blame and the media was just full of it for a few months he
[11:24] <folta> can anyone diagnose this: i can see the access points in the networking panel but can't connect properly to them?
[11:24] <theine> keyhack: I can't find an executable called system-config-network on my system...
[11:24] <funky> carlos-d-man: chupacabras ?
[11:24] <carlos-d-man> yep
[11:25] <carlos-d-man> http://alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=iso88591&q=chupacabras&rys=0&_sb_lang=pref
[11:25] <dabugas> i posed this question earlier: i have my other hard drive (allegedly a windows drive but the c:/windows dir is erased) in fstab & i have access to it from /media/windows but GNOME2 and affiliated programs ignore its existence. any ideas?
[11:26] <funky> nice creature
[11:26] <dabugas> carlos-d-man: my man, carlos-d. i've no idea what you're talking about :))
[11:27] <^thehatsrule^> lo
[11:27] <djp> anyone know why none of the magnatune links fail to play in rhythmbox? keep getting the message, Could not open vfs file "http://sc1.magnatune.com:8000/" for reading.
[11:27] <^thehatsrule^> have a question... for my pentium2, ubuntu froze.... had to hit the reset button, any ideas?
[11:29] <carlos-d-man> dabugas just a note on your mention of goats hehe; what if you mount somewhere else and access the drive with gnome and friends through that?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> djp: try saving the m3u or pls file to disk and adding it to your rhythmbox from there
[11:30] <theine> dabugas: what do you mean "GNOME2 ignores its existance"?
[11:31] <djp> thoreauputic: thanks, will give it a go...
[11:31] <roo_> hi all :)
[11:32] <dabugas> well if i open, say, abiword or gedit i can only access it through filesystem->media->windows... before i updated to hoary i had link right there below CDROM and FLOPPY of my windows drive and it also appeared on my desktop
[11:32] <thoreauputic> djp: warning: magnatune file names have a lot of cruft like %20 in them
[11:33] <thoreauputic> djp: rhythmbox has a problem with those %20 spaces
[11:33] <carlos-d-man> anybody have a single non interactive command line to create grup "joe" and user "joe" and YYY pasword?
[11:34] <funky> there is a way to see apt log ?
[11:34] <folta> nevermind - it just decided to work
[11:34] <folta> very odd indeed
[11:34] <thoreauputic> non-interactive? I don't think so - adduser and useradd etc are interactive
[11:34] <delire> carlos-d-man: addgroup joe ; aduser joe joe
[11:34] <delire> >
[11:34] <delire> carlos-d-man that what you're after?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> delire: they require interaction
[11:35] <blueyed> Hi. I'm having trouble installing the Hoary-RC: grub has been installed to hda, but fails with Error 17.. any ideas?
[11:35] <delire> thoreauputic: so does a computer. what does he expect?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> carlos-d-man: you want to script it?
[11:35] <^thehatsrule^> have a question... for my pentium2, ubuntu froze.... had to hit the reset button, any ideas?
[11:35] <carlos-d-man> delire no questions because I have to add 1000+ users, let me see... :)
[11:36] <thoreauputic> delire: well, passwords in a script in plain text aren't a good idea I guess :)
[11:36] <djp> thoreauputic: yeah, links on magnatune web site working...
[11:36] <carlos-d-man> thoreauputic maybe, the list is on excel, there goes security heh
[11:36] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: what froze.... x, kernel, what?
[11:36] <^thehatsrule^> the whole thing
[11:36] <^thehatsrule^> couldnt do anything... when i was in gnome
[11:37] <^thehatsrule^> froze on firefox
[11:37] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: first figure out if it was x or kernel or what
[11:37] <^thehatsrule^> i couldnt... how could you tell?
[11:37] <^thehatsrule^> logs?
[11:37] <delire> write a shell script to read users from a clear text list, run the addgroup command with that list as input in a loop until done. how you'll handle passwords i don't know
[11:37] <|QuaD-> ssh in from a different computer
[11:37] <^thehatsrule^> er... i just reset it
[11:37] <^thehatsrule^> all the control characters wouldnt work
[11:37] <lionBG> ^thehatsrule^, how much ram?
[11:38] <^thehatsrule^> 128mb sdram
[11:38] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: it is possible that only X froze
[11:38] <^thehatsrule^> hm, so its not because my cpu is old?
[11:38] <|QuaD-> next time don't just reset it
[11:38] <delire> ^thehatsrule^: hit CTRL-ALT-BCKSPCE
[11:38] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: it could be
[11:38] <|QuaD-> there are 500 million reasons it COULD be
[11:38] <^thehatsrule^> delire, i said no control charaters worked
[11:39] <delire> right ok
[11:39] <|QuaD-> delire: that won't work idon't believe if X is frozen
[11:39] <^thehatsrule^> tho, windows 2000 works without freezing...
[11:39] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: so?
[11:39] <^thehatsrule^> just odd
[11:39] <keyhack> how do you configure the wireless? (mind you, I  did not install gnome/kde, running xfce)
[11:39] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: you first need to figure out the cause of the freeze
[11:39] <^thehatsrule^> could it be that i should use an older kernel?
[11:39] <delire> |QuaD-: sure it will, that and the sysrq key. either that or pull up a console with ctrl-alt-f1 and kill X as a process
[11:39] <kbrooks> Hey. What is the package to install Flash?
[11:40] <|QuaD-> delire: i have had X freeze when ctrl-alt-[insert key]  doesn't work
[11:40] <kbrooks> HELLO?
[11:40] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: we don't know what crashed, so we cna't figure out a solution
[11:40] <delire> |QuaD-: sure there are dozens of workarounds.
[11:40] <djp> any recommendations as to good agregator feed packages?
[11:40] <^thehatsrule^> |QuaD-, any logs?
[11:40] <|QuaD-> djp: liferea
[11:40] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: i believe they are reset among resetting the comp
[11:41] <|QuaD-> djp: you are using gnome right?
[11:41] <^thehatsrule^> heh, dang
[11:41] <demism_> does anyone get a 40k or less connection to the mirrors?
[11:41] <djp> QuaD-: thanks. are you using it?
[11:41] <delire> ^thehatsrule^: do you have another machine? ssh into the box and run top to see what's alive
[11:41] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: next time don't restart so quickly
[11:41] <|QuaD-> djp: yeah
[11:41] <djp> |QuaD-: gnome here, yes
[11:41] <^thehatsrule^> bleh
[11:41] <^thehatsrule^> i wouldnt even know how to ssh in ;p
[11:41] <^thehatsrule^> we
[11:41] <^thehatsrule^> will see :)
[11:42] <djp> |QuaD-: better than the Sage plugin for firefox, yes?
[11:42] <demism_> does anyone get a 40k or less connection to the mirrors, and have a 10mbit connection or dsl?
[11:42] <libben> Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation. /// how do i use synaptics smart upgrade? cant find that options in synapt... its 5 packages that not got updated from the list with 300+ packages.... anyone?
[11:42] <theine> keyhack: try network-admin
[11:42] <|QuaD-> djp: i would rather things integrate with gnome, not firefox, personal preference thoguh
[11:42] <thoreauputic> ^thehatsrule^: ssh IP.of.box  or ssh nameofbox
[11:43] <djp> |QuaD-: sure
[11:43] <^thehatsrule^> k, could i use telnet if i was on windows?
[11:43] <roo_> djp, i use raggle
[11:43] <thoreauputic> ^thehatsrule^: telnet is evil
[11:43] <|QuaD-> thoreauputic: is ssh server installed by default?
[11:43] <delire> ^thehatsrule^: if you were running a telnet server on the machine, yes
[11:43] <roo_> djp, its console based but rocks
[11:43] <^thehatsrule^> heh, guess not
[11:43] <^thehatsrule^> would have to dl putty :P
[11:43] <roo_> |QuaD-, nope.
[11:43] <thoreauputic> |QuaD-: good point - no it isn't
[11:43] <delire> roo_: hey have you checked out 'snownews'. also a good rss console reader
[11:43] <|QuaD-> thoreauputic: :) you can point him to the wiki page
[11:44] <roo_> delire, yes :)
[11:44] <delire> roo_: ;)
[11:44] <|QuaD-> liferea is a gtk client
[11:44] <matheus> coucou !!!
[11:45] <kbrooks> Hey. What is the package to install Flash?
[11:45] <kbrooks> HELLO?
[11:45] <roo_> ^ wtf?
[11:45] <delire> kbrooks: what's up
[11:45] <|QuaD-> hi
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ^thehatsrule^: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/view?searchterm=ssh
[11:45] <roo_> kbrooks, for mozilla?
[11:45] <matheus> you re english ???
[11:45] <delire> kbrooks: apt-cache search libsflash
[11:45] <kbrooks> roo_: yes
[11:45] <matheus> ohhh
[11:45] <delire> s/libsflash/libflash
[11:46] <thoreauputic> |QuaD-: heh - had to find it first ;)
[11:46] <kbrooks> k
[11:46] <kbrooks> ty
[11:46] <matheus> i am a newbie on llinux, and i can t mount a fat32 disk, how can i do ?
[11:46] <roo_> kbrooks, flashplayer-mozilla ?
[11:46] <libben> roo_,  delire ? u know why i cant get 5 packages from the 316 packages i just downloaded to get installed.... it said that i should try apt-get dist-update and i did... and still same problem
[11:46] <libben> Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation. /// how do i use synaptics smart upgrade? cant find that options in synapt... its 5 packages that not got updated from the list with 300+ packages.... anyone?
[11:46] <|QuaD-> thoreauputic: :)
[11:46] <libben> ^^
[11:47] <roo_> matheus, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:47] <scott> anyone happen to have the ORCA font?
[11:47] <matheus> it is in french ?
[11:47] <matheus> have you a doc in french ?
[11:47] <roo_> matheus, http://world.altavista.com/
[11:47] <roo_> matheus, suddenly, the net is in many languages :)
[11:47] <delire> matheus: FYI if you 'less /etc/fstab' you'll see the partitions and mountpoints. it's likely your fat32 partition is in there already and you can just 'mount /mountpoint'
[11:48] <roo_> libben, hmm. my synaptic has a smart upgrade button? :/
[11:48] <theine> libben: it's under settings -> preferences -> System upgrade
[11:48] <matheus> but it is not in fstab
[11:49] <scott> /ws 2
[11:49] <roo_> libben, press "Mark All Upgrades" > "Smart Upgrade"?
[11:49] <delire> matheus: ok then type 'fdisk -l' to see which partition the fat32 partition is and then, 'mount -t vfat /dev/<fat32partition> /<some-mount-point>
[11:50] <^thehatsrule^> hm, what would be the ssh command to check what was wrong?
[11:50] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: you couldn't do it like that
[11:50] <delire> matheus: however if you find out what it is you can make an entry in /etc/fstab (file system table) and then mount it easily, even create a disk shortcut on the desktop
[11:50] <|QuaD-> that would give you a shell to your comp
[11:50] <|QuaD-> and you could debug the problem from there
[11:51] <thoreauputic> matheus: sudo gedit /etc/fstab ;  /dev/hda1       /mnt/windws     vfat   noauto,users,exec.umask=000  0  0
[11:51] <|QuaD-> if your whole system crapped out, you won't get a shell, then you will need to do creative logging techniques
[11:51] <delire> ^thehatsrule^: ssh you@hung-computer-address && top
[11:51] <^thehatsrule^> oh, so i can do any normal linux cmd? cool
[11:51] <|QuaD-> delire: top won't tell him whats wrong
[11:51] <matheus> thank, but what do "<some-mount-point>" mean ?
[11:51] <|QuaD-> /var/logs do
[11:51] <thoreauputic> matheus: vfat might be fat32, not sure
[11:52] <^thehatsrule^> hmmm
[11:52] <|QuaD-> ^thehatsrule^: thats the idea of ssh (secure shell
[11:52] <lunitik> thoreauputic: it is
[11:52] <|QuaD-> )
[11:52] <delire> |QuaD-: it will tell him if it's choking, then he can ps ax and kill the process and or look at /var/log/syslog
[11:52] <thoreauputic> K
[11:52] <matheus> delire,  what do "<some-mount-point>" mean ?
[11:53] <delire> matheus: it's any arbitrary mount point that you wish. for instance i could make a directory called 'foo' and then 'mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /home/matheus/foo
[11:53] <thoreauputic> matheus: you need a directory to "mount" your partition - like /mnt/windows
[11:54] <|QuaD-> delire: he is looking for a command that is going to tell him exactly what wrong, and you are giving him the impression that that is "top".... which it won't
[11:54] <matheus> oh yes ok
[11:54] <delire> |QuaD-: whatever
[11:54] <thoreauputic> |QuaD-: true, but a degree of diagnosis is possible
[11:54] <shekhar_> hello i have a very simple question about hoary ubuntu
[11:54] <|QuaD-> thoreauputic: true
[11:55] <|QuaD-> shekhar_: ask away
[11:55] <delire> matheus: yeah, you can then simply browse to 'foo' in your home directory and all your windows file system will be there
[11:55] <roo_> shekhar_, best just to ask, no-one will ask you what you question is :)
[11:55] <shekhar_> how do i add a launcher to the applications menu? the right click, entire menu, but it doesn't give me the option to add
[11:56] <matheus> but i've already created it, and my partition is hda7, so i have to enter :  mount -t vfat /dev/hda7/backup ???
[11:56] <cavediver> Now this is a strange problem. All of a sudden my resolution is 2080x1024, which makes some applications "disappear" to the right of what my screen displays so to speak.
[11:56] <cavediver> Hope you understand
[11:56] <|QuaD-> shekhar_: right click on the panel, click add to panel, click custom application launcher (or application launcher if you prefer)
[11:56] <cavediver> It looks just like 1280x1024 but i guess it's twice the size horizontally...
[11:57] <delire> matheus: no.. try this 'mount -t vfat /dev/hda7 /backup' (if "backup" is in your home directory it would be /home/matheus/backup)
[11:57] <matheus> yes, sorry ... i will try
[11:58] <delire> matheus: don't be sorry, it's can be confusing at first ;)
[11:58] <shekhar_> |QuaD-:  how do i add to the applications menu? i can add things to the panel
[11:58] <delire> s/its/it
[11:58] <thoreauputic> matheus: you need a space between directories :)
[11:58] <delire> matheus: to make a point, try monting a linux parition under windows ;)
[11:58] <delire> s/monting/mounting
[11:58] <|QuaD-> shekhar_: oh sorry, i don't know the answer to that, maybe someone else knows
[11:59] <thoreauputic> delire: hah !
[11:59] <delire> thoreauputic: ;)
[11:59] <roo_> delire, are u a ubuntu dev?
[11:59] <ali> hello :)
[11:59] <roo_> hi ali
[11:59] <delire> roo_: no, just a long time Debian fan ;)
[11:59] <shekhar_> can anyone tell me how to customise the applications menu in hoary?
[11:59] <shekhar_> applications:// also doesn't work in nautilus
[12:00] <langenberg> I think I'm going to deploy ubuntu inside a local company. Is there any professional support available?


[21:20] <valorie> last I heard, the new fn staff are from 4chan
[21:22] <RikMills> lovely
[21:30] <valorie> I *think* this is an Official Ubuntu Channel but do not know for sure
[21:30]  * valorie goes back to conference....


[09:35] <likewise> I am rebuilding the Ubuntu kernel, I have CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y but in which package does the dbg info end up?
[09:38] <joseogando_> likewise, AFAIK there are no multiple packages generated. (Like one with CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO y and other with n).How did you enable the option? How are you building the kernel. Through debian/rules scripts or typical make config, make, make modules etc...?


[23:35] <makoman> Hello, i'm searching some .zip to flash unbuntu phone on my android recovery ? Anyone have a link ? Thanks!
[23:35] <makoman> for nexus 4 !


[18:02] <amirGZOOeldor> moshe742: ata po?
[18:02] <amirGZOOeldor> Avihay: you there as well?
[18:02] <amirGZOOeldor> passiveobserver: xaim?
[18:02] <amirGZOOeldor> ubuntulog: hi robot
[18:02] <Avihay> nope
[18:02] <amirGZOOeldor> Avihay: damn i really need some help
[18:03] <Avihay> what with?
[18:03] <amirGZOOeldor> עם החיים שלי אחי
[18:03] <amirGZOOeldor> אני קצת בבון עכשיו
[18:03] <amirGZOOeldor> and I can only login in the site
[18:03] <amirGZOOeldor> My "laptop" has been stolen
[18:04] <amirGZOOeldor> so please run a traceroute to /me and tell me if I'm in Haifa or not
[18:04] <amirGZOOeldor> i'm going to #ubuntu as well
[18:04] <Avihay> I don't see how that will help you
[18:06] <amirGZOOeldor> Are you Avihay from HaMakor?
[18:06] <Avihay> nope
[18:08] <amirGZOOeldor> So I'll stay around for a while trying to fish for my password in the net. BRB
[18:08] <amirGZOOeldor> Thanks of course!
[18:10] <Avihay> http://pastebin.kde.org/pgthra9kj
[18:11] <amirGZOOeldor> Avihay: ok thanks Avihay, I'll remember this T_T :)
[19:26] <amirGZOOeldor> Avihay: you there there?
[19:27] <Avihay> could be
[19:27] <amirGZOOeldor> It's GMT+3 not GMT+2 right?
[19:27] <amirGZOOeldor> coz I have valuble info on my Win7
[19:27] <amirGZOOeldor> I dion't want to reinstall
[19:27] <Avihay> beats me
[19:27]  * amirGZOOeldor beats you
[19:28] <amirGZOOeldor> Amitay
[19:28] <amirGZOOeldor> not Amixay
[19:28] <amirGZOOeldor> just satin'
[19:28] <amirGZOOeldor> sayin'
[19:28] <amirGZOOeldor> well OTXA LE GOOGLE


[00:08] <daniel1> Hi could someone tell my how I can search for 2 filetypes with the ls command ? Regex patterns dont seem to work
[05:48] <theWolf> anyone want to point me in the right direction? I have a 9600 8bit No Parity Printer that I would like Kubuntu to find and use as a cups printer.. Many thanks in advance
[05:49] <theWolf> Connect via Serial port
[06:37] <stack_>  Hi I recently upgraded from kde platform 4.8.5 to 4.10 but now plasmoidviewer is not showing even the working plasmoid on checking its version $ plasmoidviewer -v Qt: 4.8.2 KDE Development Platform: 4.10.90 Plasma Widget Viewer: 1.0
[08:54] <sanudaeiki> Hello,
[08:56] <sanudaeiki> is it adviseable to use a 32Bit version of kubuntu on a 2GB system or may I use also the 64Bit version?
[09:47] <spectre> what's this channel here for
[09:49] <spectre> *do not troll* signing off
[10:09] <marbangens> good morning all
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:18] <EDocToor> I was under the understanding that X was one graphical GUI and Kubuntu used a Different GUI or Graphical Program.. So to be Clear I should have asked, "Can X and KDE Kubuntu work at the same time, or do they conflict?" as I have a TOUCHSCREEN that requires X and I would like to know If It will work with KDE, if so, I can do the research"
[15:24] <Guest852> ?
[16:01] <DrGuschtel> hi, can someone point me to the documentation on how to install kubuntu 13.04 desktop on a software-raid?
[16:07] <Quintasan> DrGuschtel: I am afraid there is no direct way to do so in installer unfortunatelu (it's one of the things I'd like to have fixed)
[16:08] <Quintasan> DrGuschtel: I can imagine you'd have to set up the array manually and only then run the installer and install on the raid partition
[16:08] <Quintasan> I did not try that on a production machine but on a VM
[16:08] <Quintasan> and it did work
[16:14] <vicomte94> bonjour a tous
[16:15] <vicomte94> j'ai une petit galere de son
[16:15] <vicomte94> qui graisille
[16:15] <vicomte94> bizare
[16:48] <DrGuschtel> Quintasan: i'm trying with the lubuntu alternate cd now. if that works i'll install kubuntu-desktop
[16:52] <Guest84148> Hi, can anybody explain me why the MouseArea onClicked () is not working :/ http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MEdXmKu8
[18:33] <system32_> hello
[18:53] <guts> irc.icq.com
[19:07] <kristjan> can anybody tell me why my skype crashes soon as i start video call
[19:07] <kristjan> i just instaled kubuntu 13.04 on my new laptop
[19:08] <kristjan> did not have problems with old one
[19:11] <BluesKaj> kristjan, have you configured your graphics driver in kmenu>apps|> system>additional drivers ?
[19:27] <kristjan> BluesKaj yes i did but when i run this program it says no propietary drivers are in use on this system
[19:29] <BluesKaj> I'm not much help then , kristjan unless you havce nvidia graphics . I am familiar with them.
[19:34] <kristjan> how can i look it up?
[19:35] <OerHeks> open konsole:  lspci | grep -i VGA
[19:36] <kristjan> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[19:37] <BluesKaj> kristjan, try , dkms status, for the name of the installed driver
[19:37] <kristjan> aam ?
[19:37] <kristjan> how
[19:38] <BluesKaj> oin the terminal
[19:38] <BluesKaj> in
[19:39] <BluesKaj> pastebin the output if needed
[19:39] <kristjan> currently not installed
[19:39] <kristjan> installing now
[19:40] <kristjan> installed
[19:40] <BluesKaj> installed ?
[19:41] <kristjan> yep
[19:42] <kristjan> but nothing hapends when i type dkms status
[19:44] <kristjan> after installation
[19:44] <BluesKaj> installing what?
[19:45] <kristjan> when i typed dkms status it says dkms currentli not installed, then i installed it
[19:45] <kristjan> what should i doo now
[20:19] <lordievader> Good evening.


[11:26] <xnox> can mclemenceau get canonical cloak please?
[11:26] <Unit193> You have to ask the Canonical GC for that.
[11:41] <schopin> Hi there, would it be possible to have a Ubuntu cloak? My LP profile: https://launchpad.net/~schopin
[12:59] <jchittum> May I have an ubuntu member cloak? I've been a member for a bit, and I'm just getting around to asking for things :)
[13:01] <ogra> jchittum, i'm not one to give oyu a cloak but i know that the guys that do will need a link to your LP account ...
[13:02] <jchittum> ogra: thank you. For those able to provide a cloak, LP account: https://launchpad.net/~jchittum
[14:07] <hggdh> schopin: on it
[14:07] <schopin> thanks :)
[14:08] <hggdh> jchittum: schopin you are all set
[14:08] <hggdh> jchittum: sorry, looking at your request now
[14:10] <hggdh> jchittum: you are also set. Enjoy :-)
[14:10] <jchittum> TY!