[00:00] <bekks> jc_: "burn image".
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> a 540line paste - that dosent really say a lot. ;)
[00:00] <umar343> am able to boot using a thumb drive.but cannot mount the hard disk even after booting using a thumb drive.
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: what exactly do you mean by "not able to boot"
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> i have a 'write to disk' on my nautilus right click menu..  not sure what added that.
[00:00] <jc_> k ty
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  i would boot the thumbdrive  then we can trouble shoot from there
[00:01] <umar343> the laptop switches on , instead of the ubuntu screeen displaying i get a error saying Atheros network is not connected.
[00:01] <umar343> mac id is displayed then.
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> so you see the grub/whatever boot menu? then the   Loading Ubuntu ......  screen?
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: sounds like pxe boot. check the integrity of the .iso file ... how did you create the usb image?
[00:02] <umar343> i am supposed to see "Loading Ubuntu..." but i don't.also i remove the thumb drive once the laptop has booted.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> use the bios/whatever key the pc uses.. to select/be sure it is booting the USB
[00:03] <umar343> first used a live cd to boot the laptop then installed the live image to the thumb drive.
[00:03] <visceral> so this whole ubuntu spyware thing... to disable it, i just slide the slider in the privacy settings GUI, right?
[00:03] <visceral> i.e. is that the whole thing or is there more config?
[00:04] <umar343> whatever option i select , network boot is selected by default/
[00:04] <umar343> *default.
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have several articals on it.
[00:04] <visceral> Dr_Willis, but for 13.10?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  it depends on your exact ubuntu release to disable  the ad lenss
[00:04] <visceral> 13.10 amd64
[00:04] <mrdeb> hi is uubntu 1404 the next lts
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> i dont memorize the steps.. and im on lubuntu ;)
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> the bot factoids are out of date i belive on the topic also
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: ok, unfortunately what your exactly saying isn't making much sense. so you can boot to the live cd ok right?
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> but those 2 blog sites had good articals on it.
[00:05] <umar343> i uninstalled a number of apps and even apt to prevent my laptop from attacking external network.
[00:05] <mrdeb> what
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> 0_O
[00:06] <visceral> i really wish all this stuff was off by default :(
[00:06] <umar343> how do i trouble shoot ?
[00:06] <umar343> once a sstem is compromised fully , no anti-virus can help.
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> umar343: its not clear what you mean by that last line. about uninstalling stuff
[00:06] <visceral> i have found the answer on the web but i have this uneasy feeling that i've missed something
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  you seem to be sort of rambling.
[00:06] <visceral> or that it'll get turned back on with an update :(
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  its really not that big of an issue. its overhyped like crazy
[00:07] <visceral> Dr_Willis, it's the whole fact that i now have to be wary of things turning it back on on me
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  if you are that scared of it.. use a differnt non-unity desktiop
[00:08] <visceral> :-\
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> visceral: you can turn of all online dash activity in: system settings -> security & privacy -> search
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  cant say ive ever heard of a users setting in their HOME directory getting turned on or off by updates...
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> EVER..
[00:08] <umar343> i have uninstalled wireless drivers,games,libreoffice,remote desktop clients,desktop sharing and executed "sudo apt-get remove apt"
[00:08] <dimitrilc> Anybody know why Mark of the Ninja runs so sluggish on my Intel hd 4000?
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> the pacakge manager tools dont touch stuff in the users home.
[00:08] <umar343> to prevent ddos attacks.
[00:08] <visceral> Dr_Willis, the mechanism may change and thus ignore the local setting
[00:08] <visceral> theoretically speaking
[00:09] <umar343> refer onlne cves , i found a website about apt leading to ddos attacks.
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  in theory they could replace busybox with some  folding@home app also.. but i doubt it..
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> in theory the only safe pc.. is one thats turned off...
[00:10] <tanuj> hello?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  perhaps you should step back and tell us why you think you need to do such weird things to 'prevent ddos' attacks
[00:10] <umar343> even a turned off pc is unsafe.i got the  info about ddos on packetstormsecurity
[00:10] <tanuj> hello?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> hello tanuj
[00:10] <tanuj> hi
[00:10] <tanuj> how aer things
[00:10] <tanuj> ae
[00:10] <tanuj> are
[00:10] <jmgk> great who are you again?
[00:10] <tanuj> me?
[00:11] <jmgk> yes
[00:11] <jmgk> I am Obama Barack Hussein
[00:11] <umar343> i once logged into the hacker's chat on gogloom.com
[00:11] <jmgk> :D
[00:11] <jmgk> heh umar343
[00:11] <tanuj> i am someone who just joined this channel
[00:11] <jmgk> awesome
[00:11] <umar343> it was in 2009
[00:11] <tanuj> cool
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  great - good for you.. now is there some actual ubuntu support question you had?
[00:11] <tanuj> what is gogloom
[00:11] <umar343> have been having different kinds of problems since then , involving social engineering as well.
[00:11] <tanuj> no, I'm just here to chat
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | tanuj jmgk this is a support channel not a chat channel
[00:12] <tanuj> welcome undert
[00:12] <jmgk> ok
[00:12] <tanuj> oh sorry
[00:12] <umar343> i need to access the hard disk and DVD writer to install another OS on another dvd.
[00:12] <umar343> how do i do it ?
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> boot a live-usb and you should have full access to the system umar343
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> you can install from a live-usb also
[00:13] <umar343> how do i create a live usb ?
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  the pendrivelinux site has dozens of tools and guides on making them.
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu  homepage also has a tool for it
[00:15] <umar343> i want to understand the hexadecimal output of the following command. sudo lspci -vvxxx  http://pastebin.com/cKsYpScq
[00:17] <lxle-fan> which white box in the alongside ubuntu represents the newer distro?
[00:18] <sisterFister> After installing xubuntu, when I boot only a black screen with a login prompt appears. Already tried to edit the grub file in /etc/default
[00:18] <sisterFister> anyone knwo what's going on ?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: considering you are running a ubuntu environment right now ... you can just install netbootin and use that to create a live usb
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> unetbootin*
[00:19] <Mentiroso> hola
[00:19] <umar343> why am i not able to access the content on the hard disk ? if i am allowed.
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: are you running the live cd now?
[00:20] <umar343> no on a usb
[00:20] <umar343> thumb drive.
[00:20] <umar343> i remove the thumb drive once the desktop appears.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  because you need to use sudo/root accessw as needed
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: you need to keep the usb in.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> err.. You boot the thumbdrive... then remove it?
[00:21] <garcianc> I don't think you are supposed to remove the thumb drive without umount
[00:21] <umar343> i read online that sudo is not the ultimate command.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  i think you need to read more..
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | umar343
[00:23] <umar343> i want to know the specialities of nano editor.
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: ok. ok, so can you open the terminal run this and tell us the last line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo lsblk | pastebinit
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: it seems like you are just here to troll us
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> hitsujiTMO:  a grasshopper troll.
[00:26] <umar343> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333137/
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: can you also paste the output of: mount | pastebinit
[00:28] <umar343> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333143/
[00:28] <umar343> i  always set the swap to minimum.
[00:29] <sisterFister> anyone knwo what's going on ?
[00:29] <sisterFister> After installing xubuntu, when I boot only a black screen with a login prompt appears. Already tried to edit the grub file in /etc/default
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  sounds like its booting to the CONSOLE  if its  just saying 'login:'
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> and can you login?
[00:29] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: i can log in
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: you have not booted from the usb, you have booted from the hard drive.
[00:30] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: and browse files normally, just no xfce environment
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  and this wasent a server install was it?  ;)
[00:30] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: no
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> had someond confused about that last week.. hehe
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  try 'startx' or 'sudo service lightdm start' and see if the gui starts up
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: can you please explain the exact problem again becaus ehtere doesn't seem to be one
[00:31] <umar343> the problem is not visible unfortunately,it is very complex.
[00:31] <umar343> i cannot boot using the hard disk or live cd.
[00:32] <umar343> there is a virus.i have files stored on the hard disk.
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: you have booted from the hard drive now
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> a virus on what os?
[00:32] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: 'startx' outputs Fatal server error: no screens found
[00:32] <umar343> ubuntu 13.04
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  sounds like you got some X configuration/Drivers issues going on
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if you have a 'virus' on ubuntu 13.04
[00:33] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: was hoping that wasn't it. Had no problem using normal ubuntu :\
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: ok, i'm definately calling troll now. i'm out.
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  what do you mean normal ubuntu?
[00:33] <umar343> the scroll key on touch pad does not work at times also.
[00:34] <umar343> inspite of removing apt,it is still present.
[00:34] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: i had ubuntu 12.04 installed before and never encountered this issue. Now i've just installed xubuntu
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  so this is a clean install that has never booted to the desktop?
[00:35] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: correct.
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  whats the video card/chipset?
[00:36]  * Dr_Willis gets ready to run away it its optimus based.. ;P
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: can you login and install pastebinit and run: cat /vat/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit     and link us the result
[00:37] <Dr_Willis>  /var/log/   ;)
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sorry:  cat /vat/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> heh heh.., cat in the hat.. in a vat went splat
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sorry:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> ok, it's right that time
[00:38] <sisterFister> no...it's such a long output and on a laptop that has no gui lol
[00:38] <sisterFister> can't i grep the lines you need?
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> a real cli guru uses the tab key  so much..  they rarely need to spell everything
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit is a cli tool to post things to a pastebin site sisterFister  - no need for a gui
[00:39] <sisterFister> oh
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: that will produce a single url for us
[00:39] <sisterFister> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333197
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: seems it does not like you're graphics card.
[00:41] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: time to  install lubuntu?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> they really need to put pastebinit installed by default. ;)
[00:42] <sisterFister> pastebinit was installed by default
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  if the gfx drives are the issue.. the desktop wont matter
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: you'll probably have the same problem ... what is the exact chipset you have?
[00:42] <sisterFister> never had this issue with Ubuntu 12.04
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit is not installed by defatult as far as ive seen.
[00:42] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: I didn't have to install pastebinit to use it
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: maybe its installed on xubuntu
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> might be.   i got my 'install-my-stuff scripts' :0 that i always use to pull in things
[00:45] <gdos> *HELP* i find my self having to type 'sudo alsa force-reload' every time i login, either pulse audio and or alsa modules are not loading at boot up or when i log in or when they are supposed to be. how can i fix this?
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: what's the output of: lspci | grep VGA
[00:46] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333222/
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  try putting the command in /etc/rc.local      as a dirty quick fix perhaps.
[00:47] <gdos> Dr_Willis: 'sudo alsa force-reload' or 'alsa force-reload' ?
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  try one, or the other, or both..
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  rc.local runs as root. so no need for sudo in rc.local
[00:49] <gdos> ok. somehow my sound system crashed (using xubuntu 12.04.3) and having a heck of a time keeping it loaded. even tried 'sudo apt-get purge --reinstall pulseaudio' and now i lost my volume control in xubuntu.
[00:49] <gdos> let me try that first.
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: looks like the radeondriver or fglrx isn't recognising the card at all. you prob need newer drivers for that card
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: it's a 7000 series card right?
[00:51] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: don't know it's the one that came with the laptop.
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: brand new laptop?
[00:51] <sisterFister> it's about 1-2 years old
[00:52] <YaMoonSun> Why is it that xfburn doesn't burn in a codec readable my most cd players?
[00:52] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Hey, can someone help me? I have a problem with a lost+found folder
[00:52] <bodhi_zazen> lost+found how?
[00:52] <sisterFister> it's about 1-2 years old hitsujiTMO
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: what exact version of xubuntu are you trying to run?
[00:52] <bodhi_zazen> problems with lost+found usually indicated a larger problem, such as a failing hard drive
[00:52] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Well, I am trying to build a cache.img using make_ext4fs
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> but whenever i do it an extra folder called lost+found is created
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> in the ache.img
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> so it messed up
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> *messes
[00:53] <bodhi_zazen> that is normal, to have an empty lost+found
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> Luigi2012SM64DS: thats part of the filesystem
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yes, but how can i stop ths from hapening?
[00:53] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: 12.04.3-desktop-amd64
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> Luigi2012SM64DS: you cant
[00:54] <Luigi2012SM64DS> dang it
[00:54] <bodhi_zazen> Luigi2012SM64DS: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2115/whats-lostfound-and-where-did-it-come-from
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> Luigi2012SM64DS: it's not an actual folder ... is part of the filesystem
[00:54] <bodhi_zazen> http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html
[00:55] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Before I was able to make cache.img's using ubuntu with no problem
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> what is cache.img supposed to be for?
[00:55] <Luigi2012SM64DS> For Samsung Galaxy tab
[00:55] <Luigi2012SM64DS> im making a new root.
[00:55] <bodhi_zazen> it is an actual directory hitsujiTMO , used by fsck
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> lost+found is normally made when the filesystems get fscked.
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> you can delete the directory if you want
[00:55] <YaMoonSun> Is there a way to configure XFburn to burn media that can be played back on a regular cd player?
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: i'd say you'd have to go for 13.10 to get it running. ubuntu 13.04 didn't even have propper support for your gfx
[00:55] <bodhi_zazen> it is normal Luigi2012SM64DS , "ignore" it
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yes, but this directory is created whenever i make the cache.img.
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> YaMoonSun:   the buttons i see here in xfvurn says its playable in a normal cd player.. its always worked in my cd players
[00:56] <bodhi_zazen> YaMoonSun: yea, you convert the say mp3 to a .wav
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> i delete it from the folder
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> i build cache
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> and poof
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> iut appears in
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> it*
[00:56] <FloodBot1> Luigi2012SM64DS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <bodhi_zazen> Luigi2012SM64DS: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> the tools making the cache are createing it i imagine Luigi2012SM64DS
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> How is that possible if I have done this before with no problems?
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> i dont see why an empty directory would hurt anything
[00:57] <YaMoonSun> Well, it's a .wav after it's been converted, but it's taking Audacious ages to detect all the newly burned song and my CD players refuses to detect them at all.
[00:57] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Eh, maybe i'm just crazy, ill try it out and see if it works. I just had problems before.l
[00:58] <chsados> hey guys, how can I encrypt my home folder after the fact (ie during install i opted out to do so) and also is LUKS apart of ubuntu natively?  Does it allow for full disk encryption like truecrypt?
[00:59] <YaMoonSun> CD took 2 minutes to burn, and it's been nearly 10 minutes and the same computer that burned it has yet to detect the files on disc.
[00:59] <YaMoonSun> What do?
[00:59] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: xubuntu has 13.10?
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: http://xubuntu.org/news/saucy-salamander-final/
[00:59] <bodhi_zazen> chsados: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostInstallationEncryption
[00:59] <chsados> ty bodhi_zazen
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> basically, recovery mode then "ecryptfs-migrate-home --user you"
[01:00] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: was that the correct link?
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> back up any data first "just in case"
[01:00] <Squarism> Hey.. when using CCSM.. as configuration is tedious i thought it would be a sane idea to export the configuration. Theres this choice to "include/exclude" defaults when doing that. But loading a configuarton wo defaults seems totally dangerous
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> encryuption makes data recovery difficult to impossible
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> hitsujiTMO: the actual downlaod page: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[01:00] <Squarism> is there some good scheme for this
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:01] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: ty
[01:03] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, 12.04 i think
[01:04] <Squarism> good ubuntu behaving like a crack addict now
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: i presume when it says "export" without defaults ... the import will merge it with your current config
[01:05] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, yeah.. that was my idea too
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: just be careful what you do play with, as it can easily upset unity
[01:06] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: no way, tweak away, but use a test account =)
[01:06] <stianhj> anyone try out btsync? two pretty much identical machines, web gui won't show on one of them (i enter username and password and it's just blank)
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> Welles_Lemuelson: please refrain from advertising and spamming users of this channel
[01:07] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, I just feel its VERY frustrating that most keybindings in ubuntu are not configurable wo ccsm. Further more.. the designers of unity/ubuntu seem to think people are using their computers to run an OS on vs and OS to run programs with.. ie ALL damn keykombinations are occupied by the OS making software that relies on hotkeys near unusable
[01:08] <Squarism> PLUS.. ubuntu/unity devs say CCSM "not supported"
[01:08] <bodhi_zazen> lol Squarism - use k/x/lubuntu or gnome =)
[01:08] <phyphor> Sorry to jump straight in and ask an annoying question - but has anyone got the time to help me with installing Ubuntu as a 2nd (dual boot) os on a desktop with pre-installed Win 8 (asus mobo if it matters)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> CCSM will be getting phased out in the next few reeases as will compiz
[01:08] <phyphor> (I've read most of the pages I've found, but they seem to not be workign for me)
[01:09] <stianhj> phyphor: just ask your question and maybe someone can help you
[01:09] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: state what you tried and what problem you had
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: yes ... its a pita. once mir is up and running they will be looking to do away with compiz and all those effects will be handled differently.
[01:09] <phyphor> Trying to install Ubuntu in UEFI mode, whichi I think I need to for Win 8 compatibility, I boot the dvd in UEFI mode
[01:09] <Squarism> mir?
[01:09] <phyphor> get teh text menu, but no options work
[01:10] <phyphor> If I boot the DVD as non-uefi then I don't htink it installs in UEFI mode
[01:10] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, what is mir?
[01:10] <thiebaude> !mir
[01:10] <bodhi_zazen> did it boot to a black screen phyphor ?
[01:10] <phyphor> which time?
[01:11] <Squarism> oh, i thought "X window server" was removed by the switch to Unity
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: you must boot in uefi mode in order to install the boot loader. can you try adding the nomodeset kernel parameter
[01:12] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: for better or worse, gnome2 and compiz are depreciated. While some tools such as ccsm may still work , anticipate more problems over time. Many users have had similar observations with Unity / Gnome 3, some use various other DE
[01:12] <phyphor> If I boot off the DVD in UEFI mode it gives me the plain text menu, but none of the options work.
[01:12] <phyphor> ok
[01:12] <phyphor> trying again - boting off DVD in UEFI mode. I get the GNU GRUB text menu
[01:13] <luckybunny> I'm having trouble getting an update through update-manager. I'm wondering if anyone can help
[01:13] <Squarism> bodhi_zazen, my plan would be to only use it for keybindings
[01:13] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: so drop to the install option, press e to edit, right?
[01:13] <yeyeman> wow I'm elidgeble for a custom google url what a privilige
[01:13] <luckybunny> I've used Synaptic to look into it. Apparently the package conflicts with itself
[01:13] <gdos> Dr_Willis, it worked. but however when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error
[01:13] <luckybunny> or rather the earlier version
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yes ... e to edit and after "quiet splash" add nomodeset
[01:13] <esde> Ok, I've been working at this for a bit now trying not to bug and ask questions.. but I cannot seem to get a persistent usb stick to boot in the machine im working with
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  i know very little about sound trouble shooting
[01:13] <esde> I keep getting missing operating system
[01:14] <luckybunny> esde: have you tried configuring the BIOS to look for a USB device insteda of the hard drive?
[01:14] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: then F10 to boot
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yes
[01:14] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: you might like http://askubuntu.com/questions/247331/how-do-i-remove-customize-unity-keyboard-shortcuts
[01:14] <esde> There is no hdd installed, and im F12 booting to USB
[01:14] <phyphor> Booting a command list.
[01:15] <bodhi_zazen> I have not looked, but you can remove key bindings and re-define them
[01:15] <phyphor> error: failure readinfg sector 0x6c00 from 'fd0'
[01:15] <phyphor> error: you need to load the kernel first
[01:15] <phyphor> I can't get past that in UEFI mode
[01:16] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: what version of Ubuntu ?
[01:16] <phyphor> I'm not sure if it's a UEFI (bios) setting I need to change
[01:16] <phyphor> bodhi_zazen: 13.10
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you do a checksum on the iso.
[01:16] <Squarism> bodhi_zazen, it relies on ccsm too?
[01:16] <bodhi_zazen> ouch, you might have to fall back to 12.04, uefi can be a problem on some laptops
[01:16] <esde> luckybunny,  There is no hdd installed, and im F12 booting to USB
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: not to remove key bindings, and I bet you can write your own (not sure) without ccsm
[01:17] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: not from that screen - check disk for defects gives the same error
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> esde: looks like its not seeing the usb as a bootable device... how did you make it?
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you do it in windows
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> I switched to an alternate DE ;)
[01:17] <phyphor> I had the same problem with 2 differetnt download and burns
[01:17] <phyphor> hrm
[01:17] <esde> gparted shows it with boot flag enable hitsujiTMO
[01:17] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: if you tell me how when I get back in abotu 15 minutes - sorry, got to go deal with a pressing matter
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: I have seen 2 laptops like that, uefi sometimes has bugs
[01:18] <shasf> how do i find the apt-get (name) of an app
[01:18] <Squarism> bodhi_zazen, thanx for the info!
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> esde: yes but it might not have an mbr installed
[01:18] <esde> shasf, apt-cache search
[01:18] <esde> ahh
[01:18] <esde> ty hitsujiTMO
[01:18] <shasf> apt-cache search
[01:18] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: I hope it at least gives you some more options is all, hope you can find something you like
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: np
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> esde: what tool did you use to create it
[01:20] <craigbass1976> anyone been able to place acestreams online?  I'm trying to watch the world series, and the acestream I found looks to be faster than the flash one I'm currently watching.  No love with these directions (adding a repo and apt-get install the -all option)
[01:24] <profligacy> craigbass1976: Red Sox just scored again.
[01:24] <profligacy> craigbass1976: 4-0
[01:24] <esde> I tried the usb startup disk tool first, then i tried unetbootin. I just opened gparted and tried setting the boot type to linux and got this error http://pastebin.com/8KBXs4r5 hitsujiTMO
[01:25] <phyphor> someone was messing with my motorcycle- sorry
[01:25] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: so, boot into windows and ... ??
[01:25] <craigbass1976> profligacy, I know.  Like I said, we're watching the flash version (@200kbps) but I'm hoping the acestream is better quality.  Watching the Bruins online is difficult -- can't see the puck on crappy streams.
[01:26] <profligacy> craigbass1976: Maybe it's a sign from God. He may want you to stop watching hockey altogether.
[01:26] <profligacy> Wow, the Cardinals really such.
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you open command line and type: FCIV        not sure if the tool is installed by default
[01:27] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: just a cautionary note ... I installed Ubuntu on a uefi system with uefi disabled, and after windows would not boot, had to re-install . If the defaults are not working there is a problem that may not have a simple answer and you might break windows ;)
[01:27] <craigbass1976> profligacy, don't you blaspheme.  Don't you BLASPHEME in HE-AH!
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> esde: can you open gparted. delete the partition and create a new fat32 partition. don't mark it bootable or anything. then use netbootin
[01:28] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: no fciv on this version of windows
[01:28] <phyphor> bodhi_zazen: So far Windows is able to boot
[01:28] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, can ubuntu only be installed on it?
[01:28] <thiebaude> i might be getting a new laptop soon
[01:28] <phyphor> I have specifically not been ,essing with the efi partitiomn
[01:29] <bodhi_zazen> thiebaude: One laptop I coul ddual boot, windows with uefi enabled, ubuntu (or fedora) with uefi disabled
[01:29] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, but what if i wanted to just install ubuntu?
[01:30] <yiuss> how do i find my vnc host display name
[01:30] <bodhi_zazen> One laptop I broke bad, could boot linux without uefi, but was never able to recover windows, uefi broke and I did not have the windows recovery disk
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: try this tool then http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe and install, then right click the iso and check the md5 ... compare it with the hash on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[01:30] <thiebaude> ok thanks bodhi_zazen
[01:30] <xdc> I dont know
[01:30] <bodhi_zazen> thiebaude: boot ubuntu (or other) with uefi enabled, if it boots you shoulb be good to go
[01:30] <xdc> I think Linux Mint is the right choise!
[01:30] <thiebaude> ok cool, just wated to know
[01:30] <thiebaude> wanted
[01:31] <bodhi_zazen> One laptop windows would boot with uefi disabled ("legacy" boot I think the bios called it) so I just left it disabled
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> bodhi_zazen: was it a non uefi windows install?
[01:31] <bodhi_zazen> and that sums up my experience with uefi
[01:32] <bodhi_zazen> hitsujiTMO: it booted both uefi and legacy, it was an early windows 7 release
[01:32] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I've just grabbed fciv anyway
[01:33] <bodhi_zazen> all I am really saying, ubuntu *should* boot and install with uefi enabled, if it does not, take care as you (or I) have broken windows by disabling uefi
[01:34] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, would be np for me since no other os besides ubuntu would be installed on it
[01:34] <thiebaude> wiped clean
[01:35] <bodhi_zazen> thiebaude: well, either buy with no os, or linux pre-installed then ;)
[01:35] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I don't have the ISO any more, just the burnt disc
[01:35] <bodhi_zazen> http://laclinux.com/en/Start
[01:35] <phyphor> Oh, wait, I have it on the other computer I burnt it on!
[01:35] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, i could just tell the store i dont agree with the ms terms of service,lol
[01:35] <thiebaude> :)
[01:36] <bodhi_zazen> yep, but you still pay for windows that way
[01:36] <profligacy> craigbass1976: There's another one.
[01:36] <profligacy> What a horrible series...
[01:36] <thiebaude> ^^
[01:36] <thiebaude> profligacy, i turned it off
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: just run fciv -md5 on the iso file. and match it correct entry in the hash list i gave you earlier
[01:38] <churly> Anyone know how to get the previously focused x window?  Ive used wmctrl and xdotool but am unsure if they can do this.
[01:39] <DrGrov> Hello. Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit on a new Acer TC-105. Did the partioning as intended. Not though I am not able to boot up the computer, can not get into BIOS either. Any thoughts what might have gone wrong?
[01:39] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: the iso file I downloaded matches the hash
[01:39] <phyphor> Downloads/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso) = 21ec41563ff34da27d4a0b56f2680c4f
[01:40] <phyphor> it was verified as burning correctlty
[01:40] <profligacy> thiebaude: Do you follow basketball?
[01:40] <KillSnooki> DrGrove, check your BIOS - do you have it in uefi and secureboot on or off?
[01:40] <thiebaude> not that much anymore
[01:40] <thiebaude> profligacy,
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you try to burn it again at a slower speed
[01:41] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: The problem is that I can not get into BIOS even :/ I can hopefully recover my Windows that I did a recovery on and try to install again.
[01:41] <phyphor> I burnt it at the slowest speed and verified after burning
[01:41] <grkblood> why when I add <IP_ADDRESS> www.google.com into /etc/hosts and then browse to google.com it loads fine? This should not be loading.
[01:41] <KillSnooki> DrGrov, did the laptop come with windows 8 installed on it?
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: ok. in you're bios. enable legacy usb support (or disable it if it's already enbabled)
[01:41] <TalkingMuffin> grkblood: www.google.com is not the same as google.com for /etc/hosts
[01:42] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: It did come with Windows 8 installed on it. But definitely not my cup of tea.
[01:42] <grkblood> TalkingMuffin, I tried both
[01:42] <KillSnooki> Boot it up and try the F2 button instead of del to get into the uefi bios
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: then try boot the cd again
[01:42] <Rajat> hello if I make a wifi on ubuntu, I cannot see it on my android. Whats the solution?
[01:42] <dv9700> is there anyway to disable search suggestions for the newest version of chrome? I've googled it extensively and everything I find it for old versions, or the buttons they reference just aren't there
[01:42] <grkblood> TalkingMuffin, I also tried <IP_ADDRESS>	*.google.com
[01:42] <esde> hitsujiTMO, unetbootin has since completed and is closed. im trying to safely remove the drive but i keep getting an error that one or more partitions on the drive are busy
[01:43] <esde> got it
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> esde: unmount if from command line
[01:43] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: usb support?
[01:43] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: Okay, I will try F2 then instead. Did nothing.
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yes ... changes how your keyboard and touchpad are detected. and a fe other things depending on manufacturer
[01:44] <esde> Missing Operating System :(
[01:44] <rovian> good night
[01:45] <rovian> can someone help me
[01:45] <KillSnooki> DrGrov, when you shut down your windows 8 for the last time did you just turn the computer off or did you do a full shutdown?
[01:45] <rovian> I'm having trouble with virtual host ubuntu 13 someone had a problem like this
[01:45] <esde> I formatted to fat32 in gparted, opened unetnootin, chose ubuntu 12.04 desktop iso, selected usb device, set persistent storage to 512MB, let unetbootin do it's thing, unmounted the drive, detached the drive, tried booting to the drive, and got the same error hitsujiTMO
[01:45] <phyphor> done, and now trying to boot off dvd again
[01:46] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: Could I still reinstall Ubuntu 13.10 and get it right the partioning? I did a full shutdown. It installed updates for me and then it restarted and then I did a shutdown.
[01:46] <phyphor> same error
[01:46] <DrGrov> Full shutdown that is, did not know of any other way than the shutdown from the menu.
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> esde: and you've verified the iso hash?
[01:46] <esde> I will now
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you remind me what the error is again. just hanging at the grub screen?
[01:48] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: using 13.10 xubuntu works :D
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sweet!
[01:49] <gdos> when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error
[01:49] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: yes! Ty for your help
[01:49] <esde> hitsujiTMO, yes md5sums match
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: np.
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> esde: is the usb devise showing up in the quick boot menu?
[01:50] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: If I boot off DVD with the DVD drive in UEFI mode I get the UEFI (plain text) boot menu, but no options work. If I try to instal I get a failure reading a sector and am told to install the kernel first
[01:50] <esde> Yes, and I can see it in the bios
[01:51] <phyphor> If I boot off DVD in plain SATA (no UEFI) mode then I don't know how to make Ubuntu bootable
[01:51] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: I am apparently stuck with this problem until I figure out how to get Windows back and redo the install of Ubuntu?
[01:51] <Rajat> hello my android device cannot detect wifi when i make it through ubuntu.plz help/
[01:52] <phyphor> huh, so now I'm in this channel I'm getting random spam - wewt
[01:52] <Rajat> though making ad-hoc on windows does detect, how?
[01:52] <phyphor> Welles_Lemuelson: quit the spam, ok?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> phyphor:  more pokemon spam?
[01:54] <phyphor> Rajat: why are you telling me to shut up. now?
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: looks like there's a compatibility issue with your uefi boot and either grub or the kernel them. if you boot in non uefi mode it it will not allow you to install a uefi setup and a non uefi setup most likely will break you're windows. if you wanted to try (and are able): you could try installing windows again as a non uefi install and then you should safely be able to install ubuntu
[01:54] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I don't have the installation media, alas
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: the other option would be to try ubuntu in a virtual machine
[01:55] <phyphor> I am wondering if it's one of the other boot options, but there are oh so many
[01:55] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I might have to, yes
[01:55] <phyphor> I was hoping to avoid another abstraction layer, but needs must I suppose
[01:55] <phyphor> thanks for your time and attention :)
[01:56] <esde> hitsujiTMO, im trying a different usb now
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: np at all
[01:57] <Romance> dont you guys ubuntu dev need to take a look at the tool apt-proz , i use it, it speeds up my update/upgrade process
[01:57] <jonLarley> would replacing windows with ubuntu, i.e. wiping my entire drive and installing ubuntu, make it run considerably faster?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> apt-fast here
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> jonLarley: no
[01:58] <jonLarley> hitsujiTMO: dual booting or not it has no affect on how fast ubuntu works?
[01:59] <Romance> wilee-nilee: its using aria2 right, the aria2 resume is so bad, i tried it with uget, many of the files were completed before they were really done
[01:59] <msdw> any one knows where can i get ubuntu mobile
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> Romance, I'm not seeing a ppa with it above oneric
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> jonLarley: there's minimal effect. there can me a few small boosts from things like locating ubuntu on a part of the hdd thats fastest, but there would be no real noticable difference
[02:01] <jonLarley> hitsujiTMO:  and there are no significant advantages outside of speed to replace your windows7 with ubuntu?
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: there is not ubuntu mobile. unbuntu touch is probably what you're reffering to: #ubuntu-touch
[02:01] <msdw> the phone version
[02:01] <Romance> wilee-nilee: need to add its ppa ppa:tahutek-team/prozilla
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> yeah found it thanks
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> jonLarley: no, there's no advantage, except maybe not seeing the grub boot option on the screen on inital boot. saves you like .... 3 seconds
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: #ubuntu-touch as i said. go there
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> and try to not be dissapointed with ubuntu touch at this time. :)
[02:03] <msdw> ok thanks
[02:04] <esde> i wish i wouldve tested the usb in another machine sooner...... it boots on another machine, looks like im troubleshooting a hardware issue :/
[02:04] <msdw> why disapointed
[02:04] <pero> how can i remove one specific unity web app? (reddit) apt-get remove unity-webapps-reddit says that i don't have it, but i still see it in dash as well the mail-sys-tray-thing
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> esde:  i have a problem desktop box. it refused to boot any usb;s  i made.. even tho they all booted find in 4+ other machines i have.. i had to use dvd to install on that box.
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[02:05] <Dr_Willis> pero:  theres a webapps directory in the users home   .config/*  somewhere i recall seeing the oher day. it maybe cached in there
[02:06] <hitsujiTMO> esde: go through every bios option. sometimes its an obscure one that causes the problem
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> budget casket hehe
[02:07] <pero> if only nautilus didn't suck so much it'd be a lot easier to find it
[02:09] <mheinke> hows it goin?!
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> pero: web apps aren't a installed package... they're the offline cache of a page. if you can't find it in that folder check firefox settings
[02:09] <gdos> Dr_Willis, it worked. but however when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error
[02:09] <gdos> oops.
[02:11] <Supermetalfreak> wowoo
[02:11] <pero> hitsujiTMO: i'm leveraging chromium for the webapps, and where? all i can find is the overarching unity web apps extensions, but i don't want to kill all of them - just one
[02:13] <fmedina> hello
[02:13] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I'm going to try one more thing, but I'd like to verify my understanding, or, more accurately, learn nw
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> pero: afaik any webapp on unity must run thru firefox (hence the dependancies on firefox)
[02:14] <phyphor> I am thiknign of instlaling Ubuntu in non legacy (non UEFI) mode then converting it
[02:14] <hitsujiTMO> pero: wait no i'm wrong on that
[02:14] <greenhornlinux> I had a quick question about ppas (still trying to wrap my head around them). I know how to easily install them but I wanted to learn more on how to manage them. For example, if things went poorly and I wanted the older software what is the best way to handle this? Uninstall the new version of software, remove the ppa, then install the software from the unbuntu repositories? Is this the best approach to "roll" back to older
[02:14] <greenhornlinux>  software?
[02:14] <pero> hitsujiTMO: that's incorrect, it's either firefox or chromium - that's actually why chromium is still held back on 29 on the repo's (because of the downstream integration with the webapps)
[02:15] <bazhang> greenhornlinux, ppa-purge
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | greenhornlinux at your own risk
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: there's a good chance trying that will damage you're windows install.
[02:15] <phyphor> I wondered tha,t but if I don't tell it to touch the EFI partition it should be ok, right?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> greenhornlinux, most any install in the cli will give you a list of what is installed.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> being installed that is
[02:16] <greenhornlinux> okay thanks, if I didn't use ppa-purge would the above method I outlined do the same thing?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> greenhornlinux, if you can perfectly uninstall the new hardware and make sure the replaced was back sure.
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> greenhornlinux, ppa-purge would be easier most likely, messing with ppa's has it's liabilities.
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> phyphor, You have the windows backed up yet?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> or some plan incase bricked
[02:20] <greenhornlinux> wilee-nilee: hm... yeah, that is why I was trying to figure out the best way to manage them. I haven't had issues as of yet, just wanted to understand it a bit better. I suppose if I attempted manually I would have to make sure any of the newer libraries and such were purged too as to not cause conflict with the older software. I will have to read up more on ppa-purge but I am assuming all of that is taken care of for you.
[02:20] <mheinke> wilee-nilee, are you in here every night?
[02:20] <mheinke> :)
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> pretty much
[02:21] <phyphor> wilee-nilee: I have my documents, etc on a separate partition
[02:21] <phyphor> I guess I could dd the whole drive to a spare drive
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> and day, I have little other responsibilities and very little here. ;)
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: well, the problem is is that it needs to create a bios boot partition, and will not be efi aware at that time so may mess up.
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> phyphor, I would not dd it it has an imager built in for at least one backup up to the pro version, clonezilla will do it repeatedly.
[02:22] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I have the space to set up a bios boot partition
[02:22] <phyphor> if that's sensible
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> dd can destroy the original at times depending on how you use it
[02:22] <mheinke> wilee-nilee, awesome! im trying to insert myself into the ubuntu community, im a php (L.A.M.P) developer
[02:22] <phyphor> wilee-nilee: you need to get in and out the right way round :)
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> mheinke, I'm on the cursory, not a developr or IT person.
[02:23] <PCLinux> Can someone here refer me to a book and support for the Linux (Ubuntu) library? I have learned a lot on here, but I also want to learn "Hands-on" as I would like to use this OS and leave Windows in the closet.
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: i'm unsure what the restrictions are on it. have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> !manual | PCLinux
[02:24] <mheinke> PCLinux, linux bible
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: seems the best to do is to create the bios boot partition manually before running the install.
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> PCLinux:  any printed book on 'ubuntu' might be a bit out of date. pay attention to the release. and dont expect a 'general' book to cover everything. ;)
[02:25] <mheinke> PCLinux, also..the Linux from scratch manual
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: but do try to dd the drive first
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> If I really wanted its skills I would grey hat and make some money from business or government by employment
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> PCLinux:  for real physical books. watch the bargin bins at the bookstores. :) anything by the Oreaily guys is worth checking out
[02:26] <mheinke> PCLinux, the two things i shared will: 1) give you tons of knowledge into linux, 2) give you the nessessary skills to run ANY linux system (and even roll your own)
[02:26] <PCLinux> I appreciate that, Dr._Willis and also do these books cover things like, Troubleshooting and Diagnostics?
[02:27] <mheinke> but you have to be a student..and really take some time. linux isnt learned in a day :P
[02:27] <Romance> how do i install gnome shell extension? ubuntu 12.04 here, gnome-shell-extensions : Depends: gnome-shell (>= 3.5) but 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Romance, go to their website is easiest
[02:28] <pero> i had to remove the associated .desktop file from ~/.local/applications
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> Romance, https://extensions.gnome.org/
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  if you want the most up to date gnome-shell experience - you may want to use ubuntu 13.10
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> some are up to some are not in all gnome 3 versions
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> some work higher not lower and the oppisiste
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> opposite*
[02:31] <donta12344> evening folks, anyone around?
[02:31] <Gerowen> There's been a few people in here over the past few minutes.
[02:32] <donta12344> its good to see people still using good old irc these days
[02:33] <Gerowen> I like it.  It's a quick and easy way to actually participate in the communities you're interested in.
[02:33] <KillSnooki> I haven't used IRC in about 10 years donta :) It's what desperation has made me resort too. Last time I was on IRC was when I was an IRCop on DALnet. Long long long time ago
[02:34] <donta12344> hmm, kind of ironic, thats pretty much when i am on it, ussualy get your conunndrum answered sooner or later
[02:34] <mheinke> donta12344, i love IRC! im in the drupal channels all day every day, and lately..im here as well most nights (PDT)
[02:34] <esde> hitsujiTMO, it's been a VERY long day. I just _assumed_ there werent any usb devices attached. I was wrong.
[02:35] <hitsujiTMO> o.O esde ? booting the wrong device?
[02:35] <Gerowen> KillSnooki: Your name reminds me of a video I saw shared on Facebook where Snooki said lobsters were the only animals that are alive when you kill them.
[02:36] <KillSnooki> Sound's about right for her :) Still not as bad as Jessica Simpson though
[02:36] <mheinke> Gerowen, hmmm lobster..sounds yummy
[02:37] <esde> Yep hitsujiTMO. rookie mistake, i was booting to a usb device i didn't know was connected.
[02:37] <esde>  :|
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> guess they never ate oysters
[02:37] <donta12344> my wonder is this, i have an old dell laptop that despite being an old dell and having been through its share of beatings, still seems to run like a clock. i want to convert it into a server for minecraft and some other games. now, i currently have xubuntu 13.4 installed and running, but i have messed around with the laptop quite a bit and the poor os is running like sh**. can i restore it to
[02:37] <donta12344> fresh install goodness without reinstalling? its all updated and my disk is shot, i am just wondering if i can get a fresh os feel without actually formatting it again.
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> esde: well, at least you should be able to fly from here
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> donta12344:  totally depends on what you messed around with. ;)
[02:38] <CrazyZurfer> hi, I've installed equalizer for  pulseaudio, I used a preset that I had on windows and it sounds much better, the problem is that I hear much noise with the music, noise like clicks and ticks, pretty weird :S
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> donta12344:  haveing /home/ on its own partion makes clean reinstalls much easier
[02:40] <donta12344> that is true, im half ways convinced to just do a full format and rework my partitions.... would it be a good idea to run the os off of a flashdrive to allow for greater speeds?
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> arg! why does thou hate me so much! ... turned on subpixel rendering to find one monitor is rgb and the other bgr ... grr
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> flash drive faster then an internal hd?  id test that theory first. ;)
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> on a usb 1 no less I would bet
[02:41] <donta12344> mm right i havent got the usb capacity to be faster, my bad :P
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> dont put swap in a ramdisk either? ;)
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> Welles_Lemuelson: again i ask, please refrain from spamming people in this channel
[02:41] <donta12344> ill just bite it and clean setup for its final stage of life
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> Welles_Lemuelson: also, please refrain from PMing abuse
[02:42] <CrazyZurfer> donta12344, you mean installing ubuntu in a pendrive?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO, report them to freenode or ubuntu-ops
[02:43] <donta12344> i just want to use the laptop for a server i can run games off my lan, and yeah, i thought if the server files are stored and running from the hdd and the os off of a flash drive i might be able to gain some system speed?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> donta12344:  ar you that limited in hd space?
[02:44] <donta12344> i have used linux for a wile, but my understanding is still so-so, and i have never seemed to have luck working with servers and networking >..<
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> plug the network cable in... start networking. ;)
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> a desktop install can work as a server also
[02:45] <donta12344> enough space, was just wondering if i could gain anything by it
[02:46] <CrazyZurfer> donta12344, as I know, USB drives are WAY slower
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> save the usb for imporntant things.. ;)
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> like err.. chargeing your phone
[02:46] <jmgk> hi
[02:47] <donta12344> kk, then i shall just reinstall and start fresh with my tinkering
[02:47] <Kromaz> I just read online that Thunderbird 24.1.0 was released for all platforms. When will we see it in the update manager??
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !latest | Kromaz
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> look for a ppa perhaps Kromaz
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Kromaz, I got FF a day early yesterday, I suspect tbird will be fast.
[02:49] <Kromaz> okay will do thanks thats Dr_Willis
[02:49] <garcianc> Kromaz, I am waiting too. 13.10 broke the lightning calendar in tbird, 24.1 is supposed to fix that
[02:50] <Kromaz> wilee-nilee I also received firefox 25 yesterday
[02:51] <Br|aN> its 100% legal its written on legal paper which makes it legal
[02:51] <CrazyZurfer> is there a way to add an "execute as administrator" option in the context menu?
[02:51] <Br|aN> woops wrong window
[02:51] <Kromaz> garcianc , you can get the older plugin to get lighting to work again
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> garcianc, Kromaz if you can't wait. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[02:52] <garcianc> Kromaz, Thanks! If the waiting takes too long, I might try that.  Thanks wilee-nilee
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> no porob
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> prob*
[02:54] <Kromaz> Have anyone else noticed that with Thunderbird no notification for imap on gmail?
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> does ubuntu one have a cli?
[02:56] <CrazyZurfer> solved my issues :P
[02:56] <CrazyZurfer> !yay
[02:57] <KillSnooki> Hey just for clarification. Ubuntu uses partitions in what's called a gpt right? If I cannot see my windows partition for the life of me on the install would it be safe to say it's something with the gpt messing up?
[02:58] <Kromaz> whats the best file format for multi platforms?
[02:58] <xmetal> uh
[02:59] <Guest60707> hey guys can u help me installing vbadditions on ubuntu?
[02:59] <hitsujiTMO> KillSnooki: ubuntu can use gpt or mbr ... if you can't see the windows partition, then yeah something is really messed up... best to cancel and have a look at it with gparted
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> !vbox | Guest60707
[03:00]  * xmetal agrees with hitsujiTMO , on that
[03:00] <KillSnooki> Okay, so I am getting somewhere with this troubleshoot philosphy :) I ran gparted and it tells me that /dev/sda contains GPT signatures but does not have valid fake msdos partition table as it should. Perhaps it was corrupt, etc
[03:00] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: Bah, it won't install the bootloader/grub in legacy mode at all. Complete fialure. I think I'm going to,a s you sggested, resprt to a VM
[03:01] <KillSnooki> Now at this point I have no idea where to go
[03:01] <KillSnooki> Can someone kick Welles_Lemuelson please? That's the second spam
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: hopefully the vm will be less of a pain for you
[03:01] <sparks56> hello all => just entered     what is topic
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> KillSnooki: report him on #ubuntu-op and #freenode
[03:02] <Guest60707> hitsujiTMO: where can i get Vboxadditions?
[03:02] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: can't be much worse :)
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> !vbox | Guest60707 did you read the vbox guides yet?
[03:02] <phyphor> just need to pick an appropraite vm management tool of choice
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> Guest60707: no idea, don't use vbox
[03:02] <Guest60707> ah okok ty
[03:02] <ObrienDave> Guest60707... at the Vbox website
[03:03] <phyphor> talking of, reminds me, Virtual box is better than VMware last time I tried
[03:03] <sparks56> what are you trying to accomplish with  Virtual Box   never used it myself
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> sparks56: /say /topic for the topic. this is a support channel not a talk channel.
[03:04] <ObrienDave> oh boy
[03:04] <phyphor> me? I can't install Ubuntu on this desktop because UEFI is being annoying. I like IDJC for internet DJ broacasting and I can't get rid of Windows because Steam
[03:05] <Romance> lol i messed with the gnome, i uninstalled the gnome shell (removed the noobslab ppa as well) and try to install it again but i got "gnome-shell : Depends: gnome-shell-common (= 3.4.1-0ubuntu2) but 3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0 is to be installed
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> been using he linux native steam client here ;)
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: sounds like you've been messing with some nasty ppa
[03:06] <willie_> hello.
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> Romance, 12.04 is funky with the shell, 3.4.1 in the repos is the best idea.
[03:06] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: the noobslab ppa, i followed exactly that website guide to install gnome extension shell under 12.04, no single step missed
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: did you install a ppa for 11.10?
[03:06] <some1033> hi
[03:07] <Romance> wilee-nilee: yes i removed the noobslab ppa and do update, but when i install gnome-shell, it gave me that error
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> gnome shell on 12.04 can be flakey i recall
[03:07] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: i dont know i followed exactly the guide from that website
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: put the ppa back in and use ppa purge
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> Romance, YOu did not run the purge?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[03:07] <Romance> i did purge with autoremove as well
[03:07] <Romance> that --purge
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: looks like it was targeted for 11.10 -> 0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0
[03:08] <Romance> ye how do i fix this, im on recovery mode
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> Romance, ppa-purge not just purge
[03:08] <willie_> got a question concerning Ubuntu Studio, 13.10. It's  simple noob question
[03:09] <Romance> willie_: surpisingly ppa-purge is not come by default so i need to install ppa-purge
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Not the same, ppa-purge use sptitude and another to remove the installs and restore stock, generally.
[03:09] <some1033> hello,kelly,
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> aptitude*
[03:10] <marlon> hi
[03:10] <marlon> im new to this softwear
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> willie_, You aware of #ubuntustudio just in case?
[03:10] <some1033> hi,marmon
[03:11] <marlon> hi some1033
[03:11] <Guest60707> guys shouldn't Vboxadditions be in aplications/system/terminal???
[03:11] <willie_> No. I just hopped on Xchat and it shot me overhere.
[03:11] <willie_> but I will go over there.
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest60707, Installed from the vbox gui I believe
[03:11] <Guest60707> yea
[03:11] <some1033> i am too.marmon
[03:11] <willie_> Thanks for the directions. Enjoy the evening!
[03:12] <Guest60707> only thing i couldn't install yet was vboxadditions,can't  find it anywhere
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> Guest60707, file-preferences-extensions
[03:12] <marlon> i dont know how to use this software
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> Guest60707, YOU add yourself to the vbox config?
[03:13] <Guest60707> think so
[03:13] <some1033> where are you from,marmon
[03:13] <ObrienDave> Guest60707... run Vbox, then add the additions ISO as a drive to the IDE controller
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> vbox homepage - has a very noice manual on using vbox
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest60707:  vbox addations - does not have a system/menu icon - since its  used by vbox. its not a stand alone app.
[03:14] <ObrienDave> Guest60707... after creating the VM
[03:14] <marlon> Australia
[03:14] <Guest60707> ahh...okok
[03:15] <marlon> i wish you could play minecraft on here
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> irc minecraft? ;)
[03:16]  * Dr_Willis runs from the creepers
[03:16] <some1033> can you speak chinese ,marmon
[03:16] <marlon> they have it on windows
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> marlon:  have what on windows exactly?
[03:16] <Romance> wilee-nilee: ok i ppa-purge and its updated the list but looks like i already removed the ppa (with that --purge) , so try with apt-get install gnome-shell, still giving me that same error
[03:16] <moppy> minecraft is java and runs on linux
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: apt-get update
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: wait!
[03:17] <Romance> oh sec
[03:17] <Romance> huh
[03:17] <marlon> i using virtualbox
[03:17] <Romance> hitsujiTMO:
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> did you use the ppa-purge tool or --purge?
[03:18] <moppy> marlon - install the java virtual machine (JVM) from the ubuntu software center, and minecraft will work just fine; it's the same as windows: install the JVM, then run minecraft
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> marlon:  you might want to be a bit more detailed in your statements.   we barely know what you are meaning
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> Romance, You would add the ppa back install the gnome shell then run the ppa-purge.
[03:20] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: sorry, one more question, how much space does the base OS usually take up?
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> Romance, the ppa-purge need to see all the packages that should be there to run correctly basically.
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> in a perfect world antway, lol
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> anyway*
[03:21] <marlon> im installing java 7
[03:21] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: with purge, apt-get update and tried to install still give same error
[03:22] <Romance> wilee-nilee: huh need to add it back?
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: about 6gb + your swap file (swap is same as ram)   .... you should have a minimum of 10GB on top of that as free space (i'd recommend minimum of 20gb
[03:22] <marlon> im new
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> Romance, that would be the logical move, have you ever heard of aptitude, it uses it and another package app
[03:22] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: even in a virtual environment?
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: you need to add it all back in ... then install the ppa-purge tool. then then ppa-purge.
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yeah
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: should give it a 30gb drive minimum if you're going to use it a lot
[03:23] <Romance> wilee-nilee, hitsujiTMO: ah ok so i add the noobslab ppa again, install gnome-shell, and do a ppa-purge ?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Remember your question could you do this, I said yes if done perfectly, not really a option for most.
[03:23] <phyphor> it's not going to do much
[03:23] <phyphor> it's going to play music off the main system
[03:24] <phyphor> and stream it to teh woooorld
[03:24] <marlon> this is ard
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: you can cut it down to 20gb then.
[03:25] <marlon99> hard
[03:25] <phyphor> good plan
[03:25] <phyphor> on it now
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:28] <mheinke> evening
[03:28] <marlon99> hi
[03:28] <mheinke> night
[03:30] <garcianc> phyphor, you can make it 100gb and set it as dynamically allocated too
[03:32] <Romance> wilee-nilee, hitsujiTMO: ok now it installed the gnome shell for 11.10 , Setting up gnome-shell (3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0)
[03:32] <Romance> so i just ppa-purge ?
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> Romance, waht release are you running?
[03:32] <Romance> 12.04
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> Romance, what was the ppa you used?
[03:33] <Romance> ppa:noobslab/gnome
[03:33] <Romance> i think it takes from there
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> Romance, So you had used this in 11.10 and upgraded to 12.04 and decided to mess with it right?
[03:34] <Romance> wilee-nilee: no, this is a fresh install 12.04
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> Romance, That ppa has a 12.04 version, which did you load?
[03:34] <Romance> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html
[03:35] <Romance> i followed exactly from that site
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Cool that should be the 12.04 version, so you have to ass the ppa-purge ppa I believe, here comes the bot
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge
[03:35] <marlon99> im new to this software
[03:36] <Romance> wilee-nilee: what should i ppa-puge
[03:36] <Romance> purge*
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Romance, 12.04 uses a ppa for the purge I believe and the later releases it is in the ubuntu repos I believe.
[03:37] <Romance> huh?
[03:37] <Vicfred> hi
[03:37] <Vicfred> I have two files and I want to compare them to know the line numbers in where they differ, is there a program to do that? I need to compare the output of my program with an online judge's output
[03:37] <Romance> wilee-nilee: i dont get it
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: install ppa-purge
[03:37] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: i already had ppa-purge
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> romance: sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/gnome
[03:38] <ObrienDave> Romance... sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/gnome
[03:39] <marlon99> im watching a movie
[03:39] <Romance> sec
[03:39] <linux_unix-10> hello
[03:39] <marlon99> hi
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> marlon99: plz keep this channel for support only, you can talk about movies in #ubuntu-offtopic mate
[03:41] <linux_unix-10> justasking, but, is there an irc channel for elementary os, an ubuntu distro?
[03:41] <linux_unix-10> *just asking
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> !asis
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: yeah, seems nothing preserves file permissions :(
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  their homepage may mention their irc channel also.
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: #elementary
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: maybe we can ask here
[03:42] <mheinke> #elementaryos as well
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  and its not an ubuntu disrto. ;) its based on ubuntu  12.04 last i looked however. :)
[03:42] <Romance> why does it say "dpkg: warning: downgrading gnome-shell-common from 3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0 to 3.4.1-0ubuntu2." , does it mean 11.10 got latest gnome compare to 12.04?
[03:42] <linux_unix-10> still based on ubuntu
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> any alternative for dropbox that could preserve ubuntu file permissions?
[03:42] <mheinke> linux_unix-10, join #elementaryos
[03:43] <linux_unix-10> thanks
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: they all ignore permissions for windows compat ... even ubuntu one :(
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  or that ppa had a newer version then whats the default in 12.04
[03:44] <delinquentme> ok soooo if after 20 minutes of non-use ... my screen dims ... to save power .... BUT when I use the brightness slider and nothing happens
[03:44] <delinquentme> what does this mean?
[03:44] <Romance> Dr_Willis: ah ok
[03:44] <Romance> time to reboot lets see if it fixed this
[03:45] <Kao_Yuu> night
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> oh the fun of ppa's
[03:46] <ObrienDave> don't ya just love it?
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> I rarely have problems but I keep package lists at times, and know how to use them in general.
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> hehe and clones of the OS, jus in case
[03:49] <Romance> well it works now but lol i hate this one, no minimize button, only has exit button on window
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> my inflated ego rarely allows me to ask for help
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: lol
[03:50] <Romance> wilee-nilee: how do i get back the default gnome shell as is in fresh 12.04 , this one kinda weird for me
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Should install now sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  use the gnome shell extensions and tweak tools
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> yeah the tweak and the exstensions
[03:52] <guest-77RakO> don't know why i can't login into my account, when i log in i get a dark screen some error are displayed for a sec and again return back to the login screen ?
[03:52] <guest-77RakO> how can i fix this prob ?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> if you really want the best gnome-shell experience you should be trying the latest ubuntu release. since it has the newer gnome shell
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> guest-77RakO, any history leading to this?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> guest-77RakO:  does the guest user work, does a newly made user work?
[03:53] <guest-77RakO> wilee-nilee, currently logged in through the guest user account
[03:53] <linux_unix-10> how can i save my screen resolution configuration for a persistent live usb system?
[03:53] <guest-77RakO> now i don't have any rights to add the user.
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> guest-77RakO, Is it a normal login?
[03:53] <guest-77RakO> yes it is a normal login
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> guest-77RakO, I suspect Dr_Willis may be better here, well I know it actually.
[03:54] <guest-77RakO> wilee-nilee, ok
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, how are you setting it/
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> guest-77RakO:  at the console. try logging in as your user.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> never mind...
[03:55] <delinquentme> soo brand new laptop lenov Y510P ... and I cant seem to get the brightness keys to work ...  =[[[
[03:55] <linux_unix-10> manually using xrandr
[03:56] <linux_unix-10> i use the command :  xrandr --addmode VGA1 1280x800
[03:56] <vnc___> wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis i can log into vnc account which has root priveledges
[03:56] <linux_unix-10> on next boot the config resets to 1024x800 , both VGA1 and LVDS1
[03:57] <xgeek-cub> where the gpg.conf file is located?
[03:57] <linux_unix-10> how can i save my display resolution config
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, Isn't there a message to hit a key to save when you run it, all I can do is google that.
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> I rarely have used xrandr
[03:58] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: you need to add entries to xorg.conf
[03:58] <linux_unix-10> only apply, but resets on next boot
[03:59] <linux_unix-10> what? :(
[03:59] <linux_unix-10> xorg.conf?
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: yes.
[03:59] <vnc___> the errors in the .xsession-errors it seems dbus is not running.
[03:59] <linux_unix-10> please tell me how to do it, xorg.conf's syntax is unreadable to me
[04:00] <linux_unix-10> :(
[04:00] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: i haven't had to set any config in xorg in years so i'm after forgetting. but you can ask those in #xorg
[04:00] <linux_unix-10> thank you :) :D
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, man xrandr gives some info in the cli
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> hehe once you understand better probably though.
[04:02] <linux_unix-10> expain please
[04:02] <linux_unix-10> *explain
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, man is manual many apps have man pages cli is the terminal.
[04:02] <linux_unix-10> oh that
[04:03] <linux_unix-10> thanks for clearing that up
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> I figured you new with this nick linux_unix-10
[04:03] <linux_unix-10> not really, just haven't been here for a while
[04:03] <vnc___> which is the log file which i should see for xsession errors ? .xsession-errors ? or there is anyother log file ?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> mines a joke I forget others may be as well
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> vnc___:  id add a new user 'sudo adduser billgates'   and see if that user can log in.  you might want toinstall a minimal window manager and see if that one works instead of unity/ubuntu also 'sudo apt-get install jwm'
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> vnc___: A Common issue iw the permissions/ownership of the .Xauthority file. you can rename.remove it if you want to see if it helps
[04:04] <somsip> vnc___: ~/.xsession-errors is the correct one for me
[04:05] <xgeek-cub> where is the gpg.conf?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  try 'locate gpg.conf'
[04:06] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: would you believe it won't now install in a VM? did the Ubuntu One log in part of installation and it looks ot have hung.
[04:06] <vnc___> loggin out and checking that new user works or not
[04:06] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis: no look
[04:06] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis : no luck
[04:06] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: thats a bug... restart and choose to skip the login
[04:06] <phyphor> You stop using Ubuntu for 18 months and it all goes ot pot :(
[04:07] <phyphor> I was using Ubuntu at home for a long, long time
[04:07] <phyphor> like, back in the 6.0sometihng days, maybe?
[04:07] <phyphor> all the way through to 12.04
[04:08] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I'll give it another shot
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  if its was only recently made then you may need to update the locate database.   'sudo updatedb' then  the 'sudo locate gpg.conf' again
[04:08] <phyphor> (thanks)
[04:08] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis after removing the .Xauthority file it worked
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> !yay
[04:08] <zexcriz> logged into my own account
[04:08] <zexcriz> Willis, :D
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> zexcriz:  ive no idea what messes up the .Xauthoruty file. I think its when people use 'sudo' when they should be using 'gksudo'
[04:15] <dewdrop> Hi, I don't find /etc/sysconfig in Ubuntu 12.04, was that moved somewhere else?
[04:16] <hitsujiTMO> dewdrop: afaik, /etc/sysconfig is the redhat way of doing things. what exactly are you looking for?
[04:17] <dewdrop> hitsujiTMO:  oh right, actually I was trying to fix an rsyslog issue by following https://stomp.colorado.edu/blog/blog/2010/05/20/on-rsyslog-and-warnings/
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> dewdrop: /etc/rsyslog.d/
[04:19] <CoJaBo> !ops Welles_Lemuelson spamming in PM
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> dewdrop: parent ofc is /etc/rsyslog.conf
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> CoJaBo: report in #ubuntu-ops
[04:21] <IdleOne> handled for now
[04:24] <mlt-> How can I restore scrolling repeat on touch pad buttons with 13.10?
[04:24] <mlt-> I feel like it used to work on previous versions
[04:25] <mlt-> synclient -l does not event mention UpDownScrollRepeat anymore
[04:25] <dewdrop> hitsujiTMO: thanks, adding SYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-c3" to rsyslog.conf shows up an error"rsyslogd: unknown priority name "" I will go read the man pages
[04:26] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: 3.5 hours later I have an installed Ubuntu OS (albeit in a VM) - maybe in the future I can break out of the virtualised world, but it'll do for now
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: hehe, hopefully ... gz on getting something up at least
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> phyphor, here is a thread that might be helpful overall. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[04:28] <kb8wlu> Anyone help installing gtx 680 drivers in unbuntu
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> tha manufacturers have their own tweaked uefi setups, that is the context
[04:28] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: booed and I've now had the keyboard and software updater closed unexptedly :(
[04:28] <phyphor> wow
[04:29] <xgeek-cub> Does apt-get dist-upgrade change the ubuntu Versio from one to another
[04:29] <xgeek-cub> ?
[04:30] <xgeek-cub> ?
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> xgeek-cub, nope
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> !dist-upgrade | xgeek-cub
[04:31] <phyphor> and even though I told it to installupdates during installation, immeditely post install it has updates - hitsujiTMO is this common? I've never had this number of ussies with previous versions
[04:31] <wolftune> anyone have a clue how to start troubleshooting my machine that won't suspend? It suspends and then immediately wakes up on its own!
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: i don't think i've ever actually see it update anything during installation.
[04:31] <kb8wlu> anyone know the process for installing gtx680 graphics drivers for unbuntu
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, unplug the mouse and see if it happens
[04:32] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: there's no mouse, no peripherals at all
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Ah, hmm, laptop?
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: laptop?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> i think updated during install. updates a core set of packages.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> like security only updates
[04:33]  * mlt- is shocked... touchpad scroll repeat was ditched http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/10208/ Did this patch go through?
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: probably. even a debootstap install doesn't install the latest of everything
[04:33]  * Dr_Willis dosent even know what 'touchpad scroll repeat' would mean.
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> the daily do
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> touchpad scroll sucks.....oh wait, what is it.
[04:35] <mlt-> Dr_Willis: I have separate buttons for up/down scrolling. Now I have constantly to press those instead of holding, e.g. in a browser
[04:36] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: hmm, I wonder if my touchpad is sending signals when I don't touch it or something else…
[04:36] <mlt-> pretty annoying
[04:37] <wolftune> the question is: how can I check what signals that would wake the computer are being sent to troubleshoot??
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, That was my thought, as far as a mouse getting vibrations "man"
[04:37] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: more than likely its a kernel module not working properly
[04:37] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: ah, this did seem to happen with the 3.11 kernel I install as backport…
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: have you googled to see if others are having the same issue?
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: with your laptop model that is
[04:38] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: I don't google I duckduckgo. But yeah, I did some searches but don't know how to search
[04:38] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: like what to type
[04:38] <wolftune> I mean I did obvious searches
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: what is your laptop model?
[04:39] <wolftune> anyway, the same laptop (Thinkpad Twist) was fine before, so it does seem to be a 3.11 issue
[04:39] <wolftune> except sometimes with 3.11 it works correctly
[04:39] <wolftune> so it's not consistent always, it's sometimes ok
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, unity desktop?
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: whats the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep xmir
[04:40] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: so searching shows up all sorts of issues about waking and suspending but dunno how to isolate search to this issue
[04:41] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: not using mir
[04:41] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: I'm actually on KDE
[04:41] <wolftune> It's Ubuntu but I have KDE installed, not Unity
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, same in both de?
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: you should at least report a bug. only bugs im seeing are reported against xmir
[04:42] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: I only use KDE
[04:43] <garcianc> wolftune, I remember years ago I had a Thinkpad running Ubuntu and the touchpad was all over the place until I messed around with synaptics. I can't really remember what i did, but you could search for that.
[04:43] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: how can I clarify the bug? Is there a way to even figure out what is waking the computer up?
[04:43] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: last comment here reports a *fix* https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1213233
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, You could make another user and see if it happens there.
[04:43] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: that's an interesting idea
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> check the bug though
[04:44] <kb8wlu> How do i install gtx680 nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: report the bug, then apport the bug id
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: that could just be miss assigned tho
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> yeah may be
[04:47] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: looks like that bug is my bug, I'll work from there, thanks!
[04:51] <kb8wlu> xxa
[04:51] <kb8wlu> Help installing gtx nvidia drivers
[04:51] <ssj5goku> i want to install dlna on my pc so that i can play songs and videos from my android phone .....how can i do that??
[04:52] <ssj5goku> +
[04:53] <Paulus68_1> kb8wlu: perhaps this can help you  http://askubuntu.com/questions/296422/nvidia-gtx-680-drivers-ubuntu-13-04-black-screen
[04:54] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: thanks again, reported that it affects me too, and the fix did it, I'm happy yay!
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: sweet
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> ssj5goku: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA
[04:58] <finetuner> Is there a torrent search downloader app for ubuntu 10.04 ??
[04:58] <finetuner> something that's easy to install and just works
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> finetuner: desktop or server?
[04:58] <finetuner> laptop
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | finetuner
[04:59] <somsip> !pinning
[04:59] <pero> !help
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> finetuner:  hmm.. cant say ive really noticed a torrent search front end..  theres several torrent-meta search sites like torrentpond.
[04:59] <pero> what's the command for package info?
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> i'm afraid 10.0 is eol. best to upgrade it to 12.04. there's transmission in that ( with the latest version available from ppa )
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> pero: !info packagename
[05:00] <pero> !info chromium-browser
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> finetuner:  with Unity and its Lens feature. there might be some Torrent Lenss available.
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> pero and you can do that in a provat emessage
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> private*
[05:01] <finetuner> I'm looking for a torrent app like frostwire for 10.04 that has a built-in search engine and downloading ability
[05:01] <finetuner> unfortunately frostwire doesn't work because it needs jre 7 which isn't available in 10.04
[05:01] <finetuner> <searches apt-cache for torrent.....
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> finetuner:  you really should update to a newer reelase
[05:02] <hitsujiTMO> finetuner: nothing is being updated for 10.04 as its end of life. you need to upgrade to 12.04
[05:02] <ssj5goku> hitsujiTMO: i couldnt figure how to install it... i am new.....can you please help
[05:03] <alpha-android> Hey guys i need some help. Got a new system and it didnt come wigh an os.....
[05:04] <alpha-android> Ii wanted to load linux on it. However when he load screen comes up
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> alpha-android, linux or ubuntu?
[05:05] <alpha-android> Iit asks me if i want to install or run off cd. Doesnt matter what i choose it then voes to a grey screen hen nothing
[05:05] <alpha-android> Ubuntu
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | alpha-android
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | alpha-android
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> alpha-android, Make sure the disc is good check the sum
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Gotten where i dont need nomodeset for any of my nvidia systems any more. ;)
[05:06] <hitsujiTMO> alpha-android: I also suggest nomodeset
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> alpha-android:  what is the video card/chipset on the pc?
[05:07] <alpha-android> My new system has an nvidia gf gt630
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> then nomodeset may be needed.
[05:08] <alpha-android> Running intel i3
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> still nomodeset
[05:08] <alpha-android> And how do i input this command
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> once you get the system installed. you may then need to install the proper nvidia drivers
[05:08] <qwebirc> When I try to run this command (sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs+504M) it outputs this: dd: memory exhausted by input buffer of size 528482304 bytes
[05:08] <qwebirc> bs=504M*
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> read  the url the bot pasted above.. shows how to enable nomodeset
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc:  you dont want to use 504mb for a Block size.
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: by such a high blocksize?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc:  anything over 8mb is most likely pointless
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> why*
[05:09] <qwebirc> but someone told me I should put my ram size there?
[05:09] <qwebirc> my ram is 504 MB
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc:  i dont know why someone would say such a silly thing
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: they wanted to kill your ram mostlikely
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> we are telling you to NOT use such a insane number
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> 4mb would be plenty
[05:10] <qwebirc> so 4MB is cool
[05:10] <qwebirc> Thanks
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: i've actualyl found not specifying a blacksize to be faster with some SSDs
[05:11] <qwebirc> while(true); do kill -USR1 `pgrep -l dd | egrep ' dd$' | awk '{ print $1 }'`; sleep 5m; done
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: but yeah. if you're going to specify something. 4M is good
[05:12] <qwebirc> Can this be used to check the status of the wipe?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> try it and see.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:12] <qwebirc> well what would you suggest to check the status?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> id just start it running.. then to fix supper..
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> it will quit when its done..
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: ive only ever just ran and headed off to do somethign else and not worry about it
[05:13] <qwebirc> Okay then
[05:13] <qwebirc> wish me luck bye
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: you could also use offsets
[05:22] <daveyg> Popped my head in to say hi,
[05:22] <ganjaherbs> i dont know if this is modifiying a dev rule , BUT i figured out how to manually over ride the bluetooth. the command is <echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/bluetooth.override>
[05:22] <daveyg> Hi!
[05:23] <daveyg> What you trying to do ganjaherbs?
[05:24] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: just comletely disable bluetooth on start up.
[05:24] <ganjaherbs> ie not load the module or daemon
[05:25] <daveyg> Doesnt bluetooth load just the same as a wifi card?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, You have a gui?
[05:25] <ganjaherbs> right so we have to disable the daemon that handles the module and i also blacklisted the module as well
[05:25] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: yes
[05:26] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: 13.10 desktop on thinkpad x220
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, I turn it off in startup applications, not sure if that works for you.
[05:26] <daveyg> Only say that as i have a wifi card i dont like loading on boot so  i use a bash script to run on boot to kill it.
[05:26] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: well i ran the sed one liner to show hidden startup but bluetooth doesnt show up on saucy now
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> heh, not surprised
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> heaven forbid you need can you remember all that?
[05:27] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: i guess sure
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> ah long term is okay, hehe
[05:28] <ganjaherbs> well al it is is i have the echo manual over ride and the blacklist
[05:29] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: so far i only added uvcvideo  and bluetooth to the blacklist
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> ah
[05:31] <victor__> hi
[05:31] <victor__> I am here
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> finally
[05:31] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: i have noticed people getting the < | > command mixed up with the ">>" command
[05:31] <daveyg> easy done.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, Not sure what you mean, I'm just a bystander overall.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> no code here
[05:33] <daveyg> i still dont understand the pipe command really, the > or >> ive just about got my head around.
[05:33] <ola2> how to run add-apt repository without asking for user permission
[05:33] <ola2> means i will run that in sh script
[05:33] <ganjaherbs> i am only 3 chapters in to this Linux command line book and its been 6 months i started trying to learn it.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> check its command line options
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> daveyg: just think of bash as a colection of rivers and you need to pipe a stream from one river to the next
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> ola2:  it may have some --yes option
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> ganjaherbs:   the basics shouldent take very long.. then you learn what you need as you need it
[05:35] <daveyg> ola2: do you have root privs?
[05:35] <ObrienDave> ganjaherbs... trying to remember all of it is the hard part ;)
[05:35] <Xirre> I'm using MonoDevelop as an IDE for Ubuntu and whenever I use "using System.Net.Sockets;" I get the following error: http://www.byond.com/members/Xirre/files/Net%20Namespace.png
[05:35] <Xirre> Any idea why?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> ola2:   add-apt-repository --help    shoes a --yes   option
[05:35] <ola2> thank you willis
[05:35] <daveyg> if so you can use sudo -s
[05:35] <ola2> u saved a lots of work
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> ola2:  all i did was read the docs. :)   well the --help outpuyt
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> most of the apt tools have a --yes option
[05:36] <daveyg> that will allow you root privs within that cli.
[05:36] <ola2> dr willis just i want to save day
[05:36] <ola2> so its like that asking experts
[05:36] <ola2> thanks a lot
[05:36] <Arch_NME> is there a CD sized iso for ubuntu 13.10?
[05:37] <Arch_NME> I don't have a dvd burner
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> bash 101 lesson #4      commandname --help    or  commandname -help       often gives a quick help guide.  ;)
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  you could use a flash drive
[05:37] <Arch_NME> I don't have one of those either
[05:37] <Snake2k> Hey everyone, my system already has 3 primary parititions (ntfs), I want to install ubuntu 13.10, how do I install it on a logical partition?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  thats how most people install these days.
[05:37] <daveyg> Ive learnt so much from irc ola2
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> !mini | Arch_NME
[05:37] <Arch_NME> it's 1:37am at my location and all I have is a cd burner and blank CDs
[05:37]  * Dr_Willis looks at his necklace of 12+ flash drives....   ;)
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> Arch_NME, use the net install very tiny.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu Might fit on a cd.
[05:38] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: unlucky man, i found an 8 gb flash drive at a bus stop the other day....
[05:38] <Arch_NME> ahh, yes that sounds perfect
[05:38] <Paulus68_1> Dr_Willis:  and you look mighty pretty too :D with that necklace
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> i got a 16gb flash drive thats so tiny its  barely noticeable when plugged in. :)
[05:38] <hitsujiTMO> Arch_NME: the mini cd is no good if you want to do a uefi install tho
[05:38] <Arch_NME> or no wait, text basedis no god
[05:39] <Arch_NME> I need a live CD
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  then try lubuntu. why do you NEED a live cd to install?
[05:39] <daveyg> cant you install 10.04 off a cd then use then internet connection to upgrade? Arch_NME?
[05:39] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: external cdr/dvr drive?
[05:39] <Arch_NME> I needto run gparted to repartition my drive prior to the install
[05:39] <Snake2k> Anyone?
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, 10,04 would need a eol upgrade not really a positive.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  theres the cli fdisk and parted tools
[05:39] <daveyg> Sup Snake2k?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  and cfdisk.
[05:40] <Arch_NME> I got to do complicated stuff
[05:40] <Arch_NME> I want a gui
[05:40] <hitsujiTMO> Arch_NME: the mini cd is only a text based installer. you can still install the graphical environment with it
[05:40] <ganjaherbs> so you want to install from a hdd partition? can you do that?
[05:40] <Arch_NME> I've got a software raid5 thing going that I need to resize
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  theres a gparted live cd iso you can get
[05:40] <daveyg> Whats eol wilee-nilee?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> but i know nothing about raid. ;)
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, end of life
[05:40] <Arch_NME> it's ubuntu softwareraid so I thought I would need ubuntu to fix it
[05:40] <Arch_NME> no?
[05:40] <Snake2k> daveyg: I need to install ubuntu 13.10.. now the system already has 3 primary partitions, when i make logical parititions they don't show up on the installer, when there is unallocated space the ubuntu installer says "unusable".. So do i get this to work
[05:41] <Snake2k> daveyg: I cannot turn a whole physical parition into ext4
[05:41] <Arch_NME> maybe I will just try the gparted CD first, thanks
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, You need a extended to contain logicals
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> its a handy cd to have.
[05:42] <daveyg> def.
[05:42] <Arch_NME> I just hope it can resize a software raid
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> that grml live cd - is alwo handy. but its more for power-admin type users. ;)
[05:42] <Arch_NME> or even recognize it
[05:42] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: do I have to turn one of my physical partitions into extended? will there be data loss?
[05:42] <daveyg> i bet its something to do with the mbr rather than the way your formating the drive.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Snake2k:  you mean 'primary' not 'physical' i think
[05:42] <Snake2k> Dr_Willis: oh yea sorry lol
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> You can have 4 primary partions max on non-gpt systems.. ONE of those can be an extended that holds logicals
[05:43] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: as in raring ringtail eol is SOON !!!
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, It would help if we could see a screen shot of gparted, at least me anyway.
[05:43] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Im using windows to make those partitions.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, YOU can't make ext type partitions in windows
[05:44] <Snake2k> :/
[05:44] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Isn't there any way to just use the wubi way to install ubuntu on windows? :/ the alongside windows thing just reboots into windows..
[05:44] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee:  because they are Linux partitions right?
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, My bet is you have 4 primaries the boot does not show in it;s partitioner.
[05:44] <daveyg> although you should be able to drop ubuntu on a dis-used partion and format to ext?
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, loosely yes.
[05:45] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Yea i guess its 4 because of the system reserve thing too..
[05:45] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: ie as in Unix/Linux and POSIX
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, Any one but the boot can go in the extended, the firmware is commonly used.
[05:46] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: HAVE YOU TRIED A LIVE USB CREATED WITH UNETBOOTIN?
[05:46] <ganjaherbs> ops caps
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, This is not a W8 uefi right?
[05:46] <daveyg> using gpart will def allow you to make an ext partion
[05:47] <daveyg> but ubuntu cd should do that for you anyway
[05:47] <ganjaherbs> you could create a ext partition running a live session from a flash drive created with unetbootin?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> backup everything.. befor messing with messing around your partions.. ;)
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> +1
[05:47] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: I made the usb from the "universal usb installer" from pendrivelinux.com
[05:47] <Arch_NME> where is the fun in that?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ganjaherbs:  yes. ou can install/run gparted from a live usb
[05:47] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Nope
[05:47] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: unetbootin is better IMO
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, cool I have  short job I do in a moment nightly so others can help if needed.
[05:48] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Could that be the problem why alongside windows doesn't work?
[05:48] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: yes
[05:48] <daveyg> dont install linux to a pen drive etc and think it will keep working,
[05:48] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Thank :)
[05:48] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: try again using unetbootin and set the disk space allowed for file ..... to 9999
[05:48] <daveyg> unless you really know what your doing it will cause all kinds of problems in the near future
[05:48] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Will do that now :)
[05:49] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: ok
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> ive done full install to flash drives ;) ran fine..
[05:50] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Btw just need to know one thing.. when i do a alongside windows, and if the system reboots, should i just let it continue or make it boot from usb.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> live usb installs are best used for short term  tasks.
[05:50] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: choose the "install along side " option from the unetbootin grub menu
[05:50] <daveyg> Doe for a while Dr_Willis, but i find in the end it fails.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Snake2k:  after it instgalls  and reboots you dont need the flash drive any more.
[05:50] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: no reset your bios to boot from hdd
[05:50] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Dr_Willis: Thank you very much, I will do that now and let you guys know :)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> daveyg:  ran for almost 6 months+ that way. :)  not had my 16gb flash have issues..  but it was a big $8    so im not worried
[05:51] <ganjaherbs> $8
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> ive had more hard drive failures then i have had flash drive failures..  unless you count the flash drives going throught the clothes washer/dryer as a failure. ;)
[05:51] <daveyg> my problem happened if i changed usb port.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> change usb port? cant say ive ever had that be an issue. booted a full usb flash install on differnt machines and ports.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> just have to watch out what drivers you install ;) if switching machines.
[05:53] <Snake2k> Dr_Willis: ganjaherbs: unetbootin doesn't have options for 13.10 :/
[05:54] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: i used it already.. are you sure?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> i use tools from the pendrivelinux site.. not unetbootin
[05:54] <ObrienDave> Snake2k... select the ISO.
[05:54] <daveyg> If your good with linux Dr_Willis then thats straight forward.
[05:54] <daveyg> but for most of us newbies it can be the end of the road.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> theres a multisystem tool i use that lets  me have several disrtos/isos on the same flash
[05:55] <ObrienDave> Snake2k... at the bottom of the unetbootin window
[05:55] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: ObrienDave: found the thing lol
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> daveyg:  with the use of UUID's there sholdent be an issue with running from USB and changeing ports. unles theres some odd hardware quirk on the pc
[05:56] <Snake2k> Okay its creating the usb
[05:56] <daveyg> you seem to know what your talking about Dr_Willis.
[05:56] <rchavik> hi, is there away for apt-get to only 'update' specific repo?
[05:56] <daveyg> Im running ubuntu 12
[05:57] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: he is Linux certified if that is what you mean?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> im certified insane...
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:57] <Arch_NME> linux certified???
[05:57] <ganjaherbs> Dr Insane
[05:57] <ObrienDave> yes, we know LOL
[05:57] <daveyg> sometimes for no reason it freezes
[05:58] <daveyg> Is there a way to record the errors before i get locked out?
[05:58] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: compTiA LInux+ Certification
[05:58] <daveyg> If it was a windows pc i would turn on error reporting ? is there something simular?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> daveyg:  install the ssh service. ssh in from another box and monitor the logs and see what happens when it freezes.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> if SSH also freezes then its a deep issue.. if its just X freezeing. then its a driver/X issue
[05:59] <daveyg> Wouldnt work.
[06:00] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: Dr Willis could probly pass it while drink
[06:00] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: Dr Willis could probly pass it while drinknk
[06:00] <ganjaherbs> oops
[06:00] <daveyg> I would think that when the freeze happens you would not even get a ping back from the ip
[06:01] <ganjaherbs> Dr_Willis: could you take the test while drunk and pass it with flying colors?
[06:01] <cindyP> Is there anyone who can help me set up a new partition in fstab? I've tried and it isn't working
[06:03] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: you should tell us what machine you are using
[06:03] <daveyg> cindyP: you tried something like gpart's boot cd?
[06:03] <cindyP> hmm machine? Lenovo
[06:03] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: OS?
[06:04] <cindyP> I have a working system working Ubuntu 12.04 just want to mount a partition ext4 for some extra space
[06:04] <ganjaherbs> gparted
[06:04] <cindyP> Did gparted to create and format the partition
[06:04] <daveyg> But just to load a drive.
[06:05] <daveyg> what about webmin?
[06:05] <cindyP> I created mount point in /media

[06:05] <cindyP> I edited fstab but I can't access the drive - permission problem?
[06:05] <daveyg> makes loading a drive really easy without knowing what your really doing with linux mount options?
[06:06] <cindyP> don't think I have webmin
[06:06] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: there is a command you need to run and post the output to pastebin but i dont know the command.. they can help you then
[06:07] <daveyg> cindyP: maybe try http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[06:07] <dmann> cindyP: what is the filesystem on the new partition?
[06:07] <Manson> hi there
[06:08] <daveyg> once you have it running you should be able to pick any drive, mount it and tell it to auto mount every time you boot.
[06:08] <cindyP> file system is ext4
[06:08] <daveyg> what you think ganjaherbs?
[06:09] <dmann> what partition /dev/# is it?
[06:09] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: it is out of my leaugeu right now but i suggest checking the ubuntu forums
[06:09] <Arch_NME> well, in case anyone is curious gaparted can see my software raid but it won't let me resize it
[06:10] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232790/automount-ext4-partition-with-user-permission-ownership-fstab
[06:10] <ganjaherbs> that should about sum it up
[06:10] <daveyg> Arch_NME:  there is a boot cd that will let you change partion size
[06:11] <cindyP> thanks ganjaherbs - let me digest that link for a moment
[06:11] <daveyg> i know its out there because ive done it before
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[06:11] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: thats what its all about.. doing the homework.. no real way around it:)
[06:12] <daveyg> Whats the reason behind what your trying to do cindyP?
[06:12] <alpha-android> That command didnt qork
[06:13] <linux_is_my_hero> I'm having trouble with a dual-boot windows 7/ ubuntu 13.10 installation, if anyone can help me, here's my problem: after installing windows 7 ultimate N, I then proceeded to install ubuntu 13.10 and the partitioner created some strange soup sandwich of partitions and told me my swap file wasn't big enough. Before I made the swap file larger with the ubuntu installer's partition tool, I noticed that there were two rand
[06:13] <daveyg> hi alpha-android.
[06:13] <alpha-android> Hi davey
[06:14] <alpha-android> Im tryinv to get ubuntu to load on cd. It just wont do it. It goes to thw option screen then whatwver i choose it just voes to a grey screen and does nogi g
[06:15] <daveyg> whats up alpha-android? im an android fan so thought i would say hi.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> alpha-android:  try the mini cd perhaps? it uses a text based installer
[06:16] <alpha-android> Someone suggested unetbootin
[06:16] <ObrienDave> alpha-android... neither will help if you have a bad DL
[06:16] <Guest49416> HI, got a question regarding file sharing between ubuntu and windows.  I set it up, ubuntu can see the windows machine, but when I try to access it, it gives "Failed to retreive share list from server".  When I did a tcpdump to checkout what's happening, I see that the Login is failing.  It's not prompting me to enter the Windows user name, so windows is rejecting the connection.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:16] <daveyg> linux_is_my_hero: dont no if this would help but maybe,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:16] <ganjaherbs> ObrienDave: hash sum?
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: thanks! :-)
[06:17] <ObrienDave> ganjaherbs... yep MD5 is your friend
[06:17] <anudas> guest, smb share
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !md5
[06:17] <Guest49416> anudas: what do you mean by "smb share"?
[06:18] <anudas> guest, try to learn somethink about sms or samba
[06:18] <anudas> smb
[06:18] <Guest49416> anudas: kinda trying to... any helpful hints?
[06:18] <cindyP> ganjaherbs: the chown command seems to have done the trick. Going to reboot now to recheck thanks
[06:18] <alpha-android> What was that command again for nvidia cards? I have my nvidia hooked into the monitor. Maybe i should hook it up to the onboard instead and see if it installs. But then i will have to try install dfivers
[06:19] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: how do i just remove all partitions except the one that windows is on, so i can force ubuntu to do a clean install with the remaining 70 of 320 GB? ubuntu never fully installed when i tried to install it
[06:20] <ganjaherbs> <sudo chown -R myname.myname /media/data/> may have solved cindy's issue
[06:20] <daveyg> just boot from the install cd.
[06:20] <Arch_NME> I think this is my answer: http://webapp5.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/SuSe-Dokumentation/manual/sles-manuals_en/manual/raidresize.html
[06:20] <daveyg> should allow you to pick where you install it to.
[06:21] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: i do that and it gives me some rubbish about partitions not being proper. i notice that the root partition is only 4GB and the swap is only 4GB. i can adjust the swap size, but not the root size.
[06:21] <daveyg> if i remember correctly you have to hit the advanced rather than clicking through
[06:22] <daveyg> You dont so happen to have a motherboard that is set to raid?
[06:22] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: no raid
[06:23] <daveyg> Do you have a spare hdd that you can put into that pc?
[06:23] <linux_is_my_hero> nope
[06:23] <linux_is_my_hero> i could format the hdd from the bios and start over and install windows and then ubuntu...any other ideas?
[06:24] <daveyg> You have windows running okay i guess?
[06:24] <linux_is_my_hero> yes :-)
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, can you screen shot gparted from the live cd and imagebin it?
[06:24] <daveyg> do you have a partion apart from windows to use?
[06:24] <anudas> ubuntu software center, system, NFS
[06:25] <linux_is_my_hero> wille-nilee: i can do that, but i have to log out and come back
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> format the hd from the bios?
[06:25] <linux_is_my_hero> Dr-Willis: yes, format the hd from the bios
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> cant sayive ever seen a bios that could format a Hard drive
[06:26] <daveyg> im with Dr_Willis!
[06:26] <Hai_Karate> test test
[06:26] <ubuntu_> Hi
[06:26] <daveyg> Hai_Karate: test 2 test 2
[06:26] <Hai_Karate> Thanks
[06:26] <daveyg> nps
[06:27] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me with ubuntu bootup issue I m facing.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !details
[06:27] <daveyg> Whats the problem ubuntu_?
[06:27] <R0b0t1> Hi, I am on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, how do I install SDL 2 development libraries? I need base, image, mixer, andI think one more.
[06:28] <ubuntu_> Kernal panic- not syncing : No init found.
[06:28] <ubuntu_> This is what I get when I try to boot 13.10
[06:28] <LuisGere> hi, i have a problem on ubuntu 13.10... why i can't erase a carpet on trash?
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> LuisGere, carpet on trash?
[06:29] <anudas> ubuntu software center, mixer in into search panel
[06:29] <ubuntu_> I get this error on booting 13.10 "Kernal panic- not syncing : No init found."
[06:30] <LuisGere> wilee-nilee i don't know how to explain... do you speak spanish? it was a carpet that i was erase and i can't erase de trash (vaciar papelera)
[06:30] <AngryNinja> hello all
[06:30] <Hai_Karate> Hi all
[06:30] <ObrienDave> !es | LuisGere
[06:30] <daveyg> Did it ever work ubuntu_?
[06:30] <AngryNinja> any geeks in here?
[06:31] <AngryNinja> lol
[06:31] <LuisGere> ubottu thanks!
[06:31] <xmetal> am i losing my mind or is this not making sense?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  use the package manager tools and look for the SDL* -dev packages
[06:31] <ubuntu_> yes it was working the first time I installed it.
[06:31] <anudas> english :-)
[06:32] <daveyg> I guess i fall into into the geek cat AngryNinja, why?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  or use the 'sudo apt-get build-deps packagename'  (or ws it build-dep) to pull in all needed dev packages for a package to compile
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> AngryNinja, just freaks
[06:32] <ubuntu_> I think windows might have something to do with changing the init file..
[06:32] <AngryNinja> lol daveyg, it was just a conv starter. I never know what to say in these things
[06:32] <ObrienDave> xmetal... since you haven't asked anything, you must be losing your mind
[06:32] <ObrienDave> ;)
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  did you look under the couch? theres where my mind normally is when loose it.
[06:33] <daveyg> Im in, What you up to AngryNinja?
[06:33] <xmetal> was talking about the "carpet on trash" type comments
[06:33] <xmetal> lol
[06:34] <michaela> how do you build software from source
[06:34] <ObrienDave> LMAO yup, gotcha
[06:34] <xmetal> i keep mine on a leash so if it trys to get away, it cant get far
[06:34] <AngryNinja> not much daveyg, just trying to figure out something in linux...was hoping I could come here and pick someones brain
[06:34] <AngryNinja> u?
[06:34] <ubuntu_> I believe it was because of dual boot of Windows and Ubuntu which might have caused the problem
[06:34] <daveyg> build software from source is easy, Save up and pay someone!
[06:34] <LuisGere> nobody talks on #ubuntu-es -.-
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu_, Rather unlikely, but go ahead.
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> the dual boot sort of yes, windows unlikely
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu_, Have you checked the sum of the iso or disc? how fast was it burnt?
[06:36] <daveyg> AngryNinja: snet over a pm if that makes it easier for you to start.
[06:37] <ObrienDave> LuisGere... okay, what do you mean by 'carpet on trash'?
[06:38] <LuisGere> a file that i erase
[06:38] <daveyg> wilee-nilee: the amount of times if failed installing linux because of a poor download
[06:38] <LuisGere> and then i can't empty the trash
[06:38] <LuisGere> i don't know why
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> LuisGere, This root trash?
[06:39] <daveyg> from cli, rm -r then folder name
[06:39] <LuisGere> no root,
[06:39] <LuisGere> i try with rm -r and it don't works
[06:40]  * xmetal scratches head
[06:40] <anudas> rm -r :-) nonback command :-)
[06:40] <LuisGere> i think that i have to empty like a root user
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !trash
[06:40] <daveyg> sudo first?
[06:40] <ObrienDave> makes sense to me
[06:40] <LuisGere> thanks i going to try it ubottu
[06:42] <xmetal> okkkkkkkkk re-reading it i think i got it ... file got deleted, and its in the trash can but they want to empty the trash can it "something is not allowing it to empty" and that file is still there (in the can)
[06:42]  * xmetal yawns
[06:42] <LuisGere> what's it happens? a file was create only
[06:43] <LuisGere> and them i can't empty the trash, it can be virus?
[06:43] <LuisGere> yes xmetal
[06:43] <Quest> Is there a (or expected) problem if too many files are stored in one directory?
[06:43] <anudas> virus on linux?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  virus? Your windows mindset is showing
[06:43] <LuisGere> i don't think so, right?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  whats the exact path to the directory/file you are having issues with?
[06:44] <ObrienDave> Quest... there is NO limit to the number of files in one sub-directory
[06:44] <xmetal> lol @ "your windows mindset is showing"
[06:44] <daveyg> Windows rules
[06:44] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis: It is a self-compiled package. How do I search available packages?
[06:45] <anudas> Quest, how many files you sugest?
[06:45] <LuisGere> ubottu thanks, i resolve the problem
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  Im no tsure what you mean. give the channel more details
[06:45] <LuisGere> but i don't know why the file create only
[06:45] <LuisGere> XD oks, the bot resolve my problem!
[06:46] <ObrienDave> *face palm*
[06:46] <xmetal> i know i am really tired right now, but i feel lost trying to follow this
[06:46] <xmetal> lol
[06:46] <LuisGere> i have to erase it like a root user on  ~/.local/share/Trash/
[06:47] <LuisGere> sorry for my english xmetal, i really have to practice.
[06:47] <xmetal> hmmm @ just got a spam PM for diapers
[06:48] <xmetal> oh no problem at all .. just trying to follow along to see if i can help
[06:48] <ObrienDave> xmetal... don't feel like the "Lone Ranger" LOL
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> its weird that trash gets owned by root.. unless you were using sudo and the file manager.. or somthing
[06:50] <LuisGere> i tried to erase it with bleachbit but it didn't work
[06:51] <xmetal> ah ... so a file got the deleted on a non-root acct and now its in the bin "root" is who the file belongs too
[06:51] <xmetal> hmm @ a command line way to empty the bin with "sudo" command in front
[06:52] <LuisGere> but when i try deleted on a non-root acct it didn't work. I can't delete that file
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get install dyson "twice the suction"
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> sudo rm  /path/to/file   ;)
[06:52] <xmetal> hmm wonder if running Bleachbit as root would do it
[06:52] <xmetal> er
[06:52] <xmetal> with root permissions i mean
[06:52] <xmetal> not sure if i am saying that right
[06:52] <Snake2k> Im having some weird problems with ubuntu install, I can't see my mouse cursor anymore :/
[06:52] <Snake2k> That is when I made the iso from unetbootin
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> most likely they ran the file manager as root. and its in roots trash.. running th efile manager as root and using its 'empty the trash' would do it.
[06:53] <LuisGere> and i don't know why this file apears
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Best is to Not run nautilus as root.
[06:53]  * xmetal "Symathy laugh" at willie's joke
[06:53] <xmetal> :|
[06:53] <xmetal> and i typo'd that bad
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> I said was it root to start with
[06:53] <xmetal> Sympathy
[06:53] <ObrienDave> 'tis ok, we understand typonese ;)
[06:54] <xmetal> yep
[06:55] <victor__> hi
[06:55] <victor__> xmetal
[06:55] <victor__> exit
[06:56] <LuisGere> thanks everybody, i can empty the trash. But why that file apears only?
[06:56] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: Virtual box really doesn't play nicely with sound. VMWare player finalyc racked it
[06:56] <phyphor> 6 hours after I started :)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  as i said earlier. my guess.. You were playing around with Running the File Manager as root.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  since you havent vgiven us any real detaias as to the files name/path all we can do is guess
[06:58] <xmetal> !details
[06:58] <LuisGere> the file that apear only was MS hPnKoe
[06:59] <Quest> ObrienDave anudas 8 million
[06:59] <Quest> ObrienDave anudas http://www.olark.com/spw/2011/08/you-can-list-a-directory-with-8-million-files-but-not-with-ls/
[07:00]  * xmetal "throws in the towel"
[07:00] <LuisGere> and i don't playing with running the file manager as root, i play it as root when i read this here and delete the file, it works
[07:00] <ObrienDave> Quest... that is NOT the same as a file limit. that is a limit of the "ls" function
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> echo *
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ;)  that has a limit also
[07:02] <xmetal> true @ ObrienDave
[07:02] <Arch_NME> file manager?? you mean nuatilus?
[07:02] <LuisGere>  i don't understand =(
[07:02] <LuisGere> yes i mean nautilus
[07:03] <Arch_NME> just out of curiousity why would you not want to run that as root?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  why would you need to run the File manager as root?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  your user has full access to their own files just fine whenrunning it as the user.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> run Nautiuls as root.. one accidental deletion = system wont boot.. or worse
[07:04] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, to edit some system files or something idk, why not
[07:04] <ObrienDave> Quest... only the ROOT directory of a drive has an entry limit. SUB-directories have NO limit
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  use the shell as root to do those tasks. Not the gui tools.. thats the best way
[07:04] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, but why? It's easier to use gui tools
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  if you got a nautlius window running as root.. and one thats not.. which window is which? ;)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> you come back 30 min later.. 2 nautiuls windows open..  one can potentially delte your entire system...
[07:05] <LuisGere> well i think i can't explain with details on english my problem, but you said me how to fix it. Very thanks to all! ;)
[07:05] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, lol, why would I attmpt to delete my entire system in any window
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  if its owned by root.. you need sudo./root rights to delete it..
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  as i said.. one MISS CLICK - and it can be gone.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> compiz has a plugin to put  (ROOT) in the title of apps running as root.
[07:06] <ObrienDave> Arch_NME... funny things happen.....
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> too bad thats not enabled by default
[07:06] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, okay then, that answers my question I was just wondering if there was some other reason
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> ive seen windows systems broken by a mistaken drag/drop in the system dirs.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> if i want to run a gui/file manager as root. I dont use nautilus. i use a shell with 'mc' ;)
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> a shell with BRIGHT PINK background colors
[07:07] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, I like to break things
[07:07] <Arch_NME> ;)
[07:07] <ObrienDave> Old Atari's did not have a trashcan. It was more like an Incinerator LMAO
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Os-9 you dragged/dropped the floppy disk icon onto the trash to 'eject' it......
[07:08] <anudas> somethink?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis>  /ignore add Welles_Lemuelson
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> oops. ;)
[07:10] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, he spamming you too, lol
[07:10] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis: Trying to compile a game, it needs a newer SDL library than in the repo
[07:10] <abl_> hello
[07:10] <cfhowlett> abl_, greetings
[07:11] <abl_> I am seeking help to install Huawei Mobile Modem
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  find a ppa with the newer versions, or compile them from source also
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  not any more. ;)
[07:12] <abl_> How can I do that at the terminal?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> abl_:  this is a 3g/4g cellphone usb dongle modem?
[07:14] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis: Oh bother
[07:14] <R0b0t1> well, thank you
[07:14] <abl_> Willis, are u there?
[07:18] <ornj> Anyone wanna help w/ forensics on my system crash?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> abl_:  give the channel details..
[07:21] <ornj> was running a live distro ob a laptop, and a webpage caused the system to FREEZE. but I could Ctrl-Alt-F# to another terminal, which was VERY SLOW and showed kswapd0 consistently, tho it didn't say it was using much cpu.
[07:21] <linux_is_my_hero> Mr_Wills: you were correct, I cannot format my HDD from my bios.
[07:23] <ornj> thought I'd wait since sometimes I've had similar issues resolve themselves, but I fell asleep w/ laptop on my bed, and wgen I woke up, screen was black, not just no image, but not illuminated.
[07:23] <ornj> fan is still running, tho, machine is still hot
[07:24] <ornj> Is the CPU still working? is there any way to pull out of this nosedive?
[07:25] <ornj> did sys shut off from overheat? Am I potentially damaging my chip by letting it continue to run + not powering down?
[07:28] <linux_is_my_hero> if anyone can help me with my partition problem, i'd really appreciate it. this is what i have right now. http://imagebin.org/275331
[07:28] <linux_is_my_hero> I'd like to cahnge it to be just two partitions: one for windows, one for ubuntu
[07:28] <milamber> ornj: you were running a live distro? why not just do a hard power down? no one here can tell you if the machine powered down. what is your question?
[07:30] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: what is the problem? the ubuntu installer can automagically partition to install next to windows
[07:30] <ornj> my questions are: why do we think screen shut off tho fan is still running + processor is still warm?
[07:30] <kongthap> hi, why i cannot start vsftpd using "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart", i cannot use "service vsftpd restart" too ????
[07:31] <ornj> am I damaging my CPU having let it continue to run after potentially having overheated?
[07:31] <milamber> ornj: the screen could have shut off due to power management settings and the fan is still running because the laptop temperature is hot. if the fan is running, then it probably didn't shut itself off.
[07:31] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: it seems to be unable to do so. :-( it wants me to manually adjust the swap size, and it wants to root size to be 4gb, when it has more availible. I also am unable to adjust the two free spaces to be one free space.
[07:31] <milamber> ornj: you probably aren't damaging it further if you have taken it off the bed and it is cooling down
[07:32] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: then you may want to look at !gparted
[07:32] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: is there a program that can completely format my hdd to be completely empty so I can start everything over?
[07:32] <milamber> !gparted | linux_is_my_hero
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, a screenshot of the gparted partitioner on the live cd would be better.
[07:33] <ornj> is there any hope that the system will eventually work thru whatever it's stuck on, or did it just run out of RAM and die? no hope of salvaging what I'd saved to the live disc?
[07:33] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: I'll try that
[07:33] <milamber> ornj: if it's an actual livecd you can't save anything to it
[07:33] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: can't i at least do an imagebin of gparted from the livecd?
[07:33] <milamber> ornj: it would all be gone when you restarted anyways
[07:34] <jnhghy> i'm on ubunut 12.04 and using gnome 3 desktop, I'd like to run the benchmark from disk utility, I've started disk utility, selected my hdd but I can't seem to find where the benchmark options are... can anyone help?
[07:34] <ornj> well, no, exactly. but there was stuff I'd "saved" to the live filesystem
[07:34] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: not sure what you are asking
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> jnhghy, top right the gear.
[07:35] <ornj> yes, exactly. which is why I'd like to recover this stuff before I do that.  ;)
[07:35] <milamber> ornj: did you install an ssh server? what version of ubuntu was the livecd of, and have you tried ctrl + alt + f2?
[07:35] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: can't i load ubuntu from the livecd, then open gparted, and use the printscreen button on my keyboard and paste the screenshot to an imagebin? it's either that, or use my cheesy camera cellphone
[07:35] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: yes, you should be able to do that
[07:35] <linux_is_my_hero> got it, be back ...
[07:36] <jnhghy> wilee-nilee: that offers : 1) Format Disk 2) Create Disk Image 3) Restore Disk Image 4) View SMART Data ... nothing else
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> jnhghy, Live cd?
[07:36] <jnhghy> wilee-nilee: nope regular install
[07:36] <ornj> i ctrl alt f5'd, as you'll see above
[07:37] <ornj> ubuntu studio, so if that doesn't come w an ssh server, no.
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> jnhghy, I think benchmark is a unmounted option, I see it in mine but I'm running 14.04
[07:37] <jnhghy> wilee-nilee: ok thanks ...
[07:38] <ornj> oh btw re pwr mgt... screen was set to go blank, but never actually went OFF. this is no light whatsoever, closing + opening lid doesn't help
[07:38] <milamber> ornj: did you ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to gnome?
[07:39] <ornj> a few times, it was still there before I fell asleep
[07:39] <ornj> (actually xfce, not gnome)
[07:40] <ornj> but i think it was on top/F5 when i passed out
[07:41] <milamber> ornj: well xfce has some issues with waking not working in general
[07:41] <daveyg> here's a linux question, when you boot straight to cli, you can press ctrl with maybe shift or alt and then the numbers or maybe the function keys to get a screen full of jargon or a new cli. Whats the point of this? I only use it if ive crashed on boot?
[07:41] <ornj> i mean, on a live distro w/ no swap disk, what happens if you run out of ram?
[07:41] <ornj> oh, oops
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, some only use the cli.
[07:42] <ornj> well, as i said, screen powering off wasn't normal m.o.
[07:42] <linux_unix-10> i can't install broadcom sta wireless driver, here's the error given: Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[07:42] <linux_unix-10> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[07:43] <daveyg> Only people like you wilee-nilee.
[07:43] <linux_unix-10> what should i do?
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, lol not me.
[07:43] <ornj> have also tried Ctrl-Alt-backspace
[07:43] <kongthap> hi, why i cannot start vsftpd using "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart", i cannot use "service vsftpd restart" too ????
[07:43] <milamber> ornj: http://superuser.com/questions/536901/what-happens-when-linux-os-out-of-ram-and-no-swap
[07:44] <auronandace> linux_unix-10: have you looked at the log file it told you to?
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, Have you seen the broadcom info from the bot?
[07:44] <ornj> thanky sir :)
[07:44] <daveyg> pm sent wilee-nilee
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, I have pm blocked
[07:44] <MadTux> can someone tell me what the ubuntu archiving application package name is?
[07:45] <milamber> kongthap: we need more info, specifically - what are you typing into the terminal and what error message(s) are you getting?
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> pm has been tmi generally
[07:45] <ornj> milamber >> like the gb reference
[07:45] <SomeDamnBody> hey, I have some input that has to be given to a program on the terminal
[07:45] <SomeDamnBody> (the program does a call to gets)
[07:45] <SomeDamnBody> but the problem is, I also need to debug that program
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> I have contrived some input to give it
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> but it's not all printable
[07:46] <kongthap> milamber: "Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[07:46] <kongthap> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,
[07:46] <kongthap> e.g. stop vsftpd ; start vsftpd. The restart(8) utility is also available"
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> how can I give the program this input
[07:46] <Snake2k> Hey guys, my wifi isn't working, im using a dell inspiron n5520.. Like.. I can't see any networks and there is nothing in "Additional Drivers"
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> ? preferably in an automated way
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> here's the last 5 line from /var/log/jockey.log: 2013-10-31 15:41:42,835 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:42,865 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:58,288 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <kongthap> milamber: i didn't understand what it said
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:58,346 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:58,389 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <FloodBot1> linux_unix-10: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:42:03,293 DEBUG: Shutting down
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> I would like to be able to pipe in to the clipboard, but apparently xsel and xclip don't work as advertised
[07:47] <milamber> kongthap: it wants you to use the format: sudo service vsftpd <command>
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> !bcm | linux_unix-10
[07:47] <milamber> kongthap: where the <command> is usually start, stop, or restart
[07:48] <kongthap> milamber: the error i did paste came from "sudo service vsftpd restart"
[07:48] <linux_unix-10> here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334424/
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  theres the 'clipboard' then theres the 'x selection buffer'
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, can you find the wifi info by running lspci in the terminal and post it?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  theres tools that can sync the two i recall. :)
[07:49] <kongthap> milamber: oh after rebooting it seems working now... :)
[07:49] <antithesis> Hello
[07:49] <SomeDamnBody> how do I sync them Dr_Willis
[07:50] <makara> what does ![] mean in markdown?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  i recall some tools in the repos. not used it in ages. but if the input is not just text. what s it?  whitespace? binary data?
[07:50] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, binary
[07:50] <ornj> i guess that's my question. I've had JavaScript things lock up the system for quite some time, but recover later. how long should i give this oom killer to do its thing?
[07:50] <SomeDamnBody> I have to debug it while giving it the data on the fly
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:   you might need to use fifo's and pipes then. not the clipboard/selection buffer
[07:51] <kongthap> in common when setting up ftp server, where should be the home directory for anonymous access???
[07:51] <Gery> Hello guy can u help me  ....dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a... display when i am trying to install packeages,how can fix it this problem?
[07:51] <milamber> ornj: i'd say if you haven't gotten a response now i would just say it's probably time
[07:51] <ornj> and even if it does, how do i see what I'm doing?  ;)
[07:51] <SomeDamnBody> does this look like the solution: superuser.com/questions/68170/how-can-i-merge-the-gnome-clipboard-and-the-x-selection
[07:51] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, fifos and pipes?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  with binary data.  i dont think you can use the clipboard
[07:51] <ornj> to restart?
[07:51] <SomeDamnBody> the clipboard works with binary data on mac
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  linux is not mac.
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, do you mean running the command like: "command" < "file"
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> because the command must be run under a debugger
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  somthing like that
[07:52] <milamber> kongthap: goog-fu yields /var/ftp/
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> meaning that the file input resolution occurs prior to launching gdb
[07:52] <ornj> all unsaved-to-the-cloud stuff go bye-bye?  :(
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> so gdb --args "command" < "file"
[07:53] <leif_> greetins looking for a good ide for coding c for a newb
[07:53] <gordonjcp> IDEs suck
[07:53] <milamber> leif_: you are going to get a wide variety of opinions
[07:53] <gordonjcp> you've already got gedit
[07:53] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, so that won't work
[07:54] <leif_> milamber, ok
[07:54] <leif_> maybe eclipse
[07:54] <Gery> Hello guys can u help me  ....dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a... display when i am trying to install packeages,how can fix it this problem?
[07:54] <gordonjcp> leif_: if you really want an IDE, KDevelop is pretty good, Eclipse is sort of an industry standard but it's written in Java
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  no idea. you really havent given the channel much details. You might want to be asking this in a programmming channel
[07:54] <milamber> leif_: from ides suck you already have gedit | vi | emacs (which is kind of an ide) to fully integrated as eclipse, code::blocks, and even qt_builder
[07:54] <kongthap> milamber: thanks but what is goog-fu ??? :(
[07:54] <leif_> thanks
[07:54] <SomeDamnBody> what other details are needed?
[07:55] <gordonjcp> Eclipse is great if you have 32GB of RAM and maybe a couple of eight-core processors
[07:55] <milamber> kongthap: google-fu*, i just googled it
[07:55] <SomeDamnBody> I need to do gdb --args "program" "binary input that can't be typed"
[07:55] <SomeDamnBody> or wait...