[00:05] <admin911> K
[00:05] <admin911> HELLO HI
[00:06] <cfhowlett> drop the caps.  ask your ubuntu question.
[00:08] <admin911> anonomus  no work good
[00:09] <admin911> wht up pulp
[00:45] <coffeeguy> hey is there a multi media gaming ubuntu flavor?
[00:45] <coffeeguy> and should i compile firefox from source for better performance?
[00:46] <coffeeguy> in ubuntu 16.04.1
[00:46] <Jakethepython> how do i change a drives mount point?
[00:46] <k1l_> i doubt recompiling firefox will bring you more performance
[00:46] <k1l_> Jakethepython: unmount it and mount it where you want it?
[00:47] <coffeeguy> ok i had a feeling that was the case this isn't gentoo lol
[00:47] <coffeeguy> k1l_, ty
[00:47] <Whisket> Hi I made a custom hybrid iso with Ubuntu 16.04. When I dd the ISO to a USB the BIOS won't detect a bootable disk. If I format the disk FAT32 and copy the files over it boots but into the normal ubuntu installer and not mine. Booting the ISO in a VM works fine. Anyone know what I might be messing up writing the ISO to USB?
[00:48] <Whisket> dd bs=4M if=my_image.iso of=/dev/sdb1
[00:48] <cuddle> im having trouble accessing my iphone from ubuntu
[00:48] <k1l_> Whisket: dont dd it to the partition. dd it to the bare metal usb.
[00:48] <cuddle> it was working before but now i cant see anything on the phone
[00:49] <cuddle> i just want to get the pics on my phone saved. anyone know how to do this with ubuntu
[00:49] <cuddle> it used to be plug & play
[00:50] <Whisket> k1l_: thanks, i'll give it a try
[00:56] <Whisket> k1l_: fdisk deleted sdb1, dd to /dev/sdb and the same thing happens. BIOS doesn't recognize it
[00:57] <k1l_> Whisket: then your iso is broken. a hybrid iso includes the partitions already so it can be dd (or cp or or or) onto the bare /dev/sdb and not into a partition like /dev/sdb1
[00:57] <Whisket> The ISO has the partition. It successfully creates sdb1 and like I said the ISO boots fine in a VM
[00:58] <Whisket> fdisk shows the partition is bootable
[00:58] <k1l_> i guess the vm tests only the cdrom iso part?
[00:59] <k1l_> not the hybrid iso part
[01:05] <juan_> hi my software de ubunto wount load
[01:05] <Jakethepython> mdadm an md device must be gien in this mode
[01:05] <Jakethepython> what is an MD device?
[01:05] <juan_> dont under stand
[01:06] <juan_> hi does any one speek spanish here
[01:09] <Bashing-om> !es | juan_
[01:16] <Jakethepython1> sudo mdadm --create -- verbose /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
[01:16] <Jakethepython1> mdadm: an md device must be given in this mode
[01:17] <sullivan> Howdy, having an issue setting primary monitor in dual monitor setup, could somebody point me in the right direction please?
[01:23] <tatertots> sullivan: did you try using the display settings ?
[01:23] <zguy300> hey guys, i am booted with a live usb and trying to access my mounted hard drive but cannot get permission to get into home folder. is ther anyway i can access it?
[01:24] <sullivan> Yes; the monitor on the left is apparently set to primary, only way I can appear to change it is by disabling it entirely
[01:24] <sullivan>  Within the display settings
[01:26] <wedgie> zguy300: sudo
[01:27] <tatertots> sullivan: from display setting you should be able too declare a primary display, the display with the menu shown in it, is the primary
[01:29] <sullivan> tatertots, do I need to restart after applying/keeping settings when I make that change?  I tried it before but the window still loaded onto the wrong screen
[01:30] <tatertots> sullivan: you will need to apply, and possibly log out and log back in again
[01:30] <sullivan> Will try that
[01:32] <sullivan> tatertots, setting the launcher to only the proper display didn't have any effect
[01:34] <tatertots> sullivan: can you open terminal?
[01:34] <sullivan> Yep
[01:34] <sullivan> Comfortable with CLI
[01:34] <tatertots> sullivan: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[01:34] <tatertots> sullivan: sweet, then this will go smoothly
[01:34] <tatertots> sullivan: once install is completed
[01:35] <tatertots> sullivan: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[01:35] <tatertots> sullivan: share url/link here
[01:39] <zguy300> tatertots. you think you can lend me a hand?
[01:40] <tatertots> zguy300: lsblk|nc termbin.com 9999
[01:40] <tatertots> zguy300: press enter
[01:40] <tatertots> zguy300: share url/link here
[01:41] <sullivan> Oops
[01:42] <sullivan> tatertots, http://dpaste.com/2JDJVHY
[01:42] <zguy300> im not on the computer i need help with
[01:42] <zguy300> its right next to me.
[01:42] <tatertots> zguy300: connected to the internet? yes or no
[01:43] <zguy300> yes i clicked link
[01:44] <tatertots> sullivan: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit
[01:45] <tatertots> zguy300: the link it shown to me, i don't think you'd know what to do with such informations
[01:45] <sullivan> there's a .log.old, you just want the .log correct?
[01:45] <noahmg123> OK. So Chrome requires my touchscreen to be floated using xinput for better touch support. However this completely breaks touch functionality everywhere else.
[01:45] <noahmg123> any way I can do this without breaking everything
[01:45] <tatertots> sullivan: just .log
[01:46] <tatertots> zguy300: put the url/link into this chat room so we can see it
[01:48] <sullivan> Thing's yuuuuuuge: http://dpaste.com/34N7VTV
[01:48] <zguy300> yeah think you lost me. lsblk|nc termbin.com 9999
[01:50] <zguy300> oh you want me to make a pastebin type through this website?
[01:56] <zguy300> http://termbin.com/hz6n
[01:58] <kazapo> alguien habla español?
[01:59] <bazhang> kazapo, #ubuntu-es for espanol
[01:59] <tatertots> sullivan: [  9698.612] (II) AMDGPU(0): Output HDMI-A-0 using initial mode 1360x768 +0+0
[01:59] <tatertots> [  9698.612] (II) AMDGPU(0): Output DVI-D-0 using initial mode 1920x1080 +1360+0
[01:59] <tatertots> sullivan: xrandr|pastebinit
[02:00] <sullivan> tatertots, http://dpaste.com/23QSRP1
[02:01] <zguy300> tatertots. to be clear, i enter that link into my broken computer and give you the link it sends back on here correct?
[02:02] <tatertots> sullivan: HDMI-A-0 connected primary
[02:02] <tatertots> sullivan: so you want DVI-D-0 as primary correct?
[02:03] <tatertots> zguy300: one of the links you've posted are of my lsblk
[02:03] <sullivan> No, the DVI is the left monitor, which I want as secondary, but is where things are coming up; the right TV is the HDMI which should be the primary
[02:04] <roothorick> aha, so zesty IS getting gnome ngihtlies
[02:04] <tatertots> zguy300: only advice i can give is try to chat from the same computer with the issue so you can provide the url/links accurately
[02:04] <sullivan> It's a samsung TV with the HDMI port configured as DVI/PC (if that's relevant)
[02:04] <zguy300> hmmm, ok
[02:04] <zguy300> cd
[02:04] <zguy300> damn wrong keyboard sorry
[02:06] <lubuntu> hey its zguy300
[02:06] <Guest47576> i had to install hexchat quick
[02:06] <roothorick> installing LTS on this machine was a mistake... HWE isn't comprehensive enough to actually support cutting edge GPUs
[02:07] <roothorick> you get the kernel drivers, sure, but the important bits on the Mesa side aren't there. I pulled a PPA for now, seriously considering moving to following 17.04 development. It isn't exactly a mission critical machine
[02:08] <tatertots> sullivan: the samsung on HDMI-A-0 is now set as primary, and this is what you want, you want apps to open on a certain monitor to avoid having to drag an app to the monitor you want it on...correct?
[02:08] <bazhang> roothorick, #ubuntu+1 should you wish to discuss 1704
[02:09] <tatertots> sullivan: i am talking about your two monitors as per http://dpaste.com/23QSRP1
[02:09] <xangua> roothorick: you get updated xorg packages too
[02:09] <sullivan> Yes, the HDMI should be where games/videos/stuff opens in fullscreen, not the other monitor
[02:09] <sullivan> They...don't, however
[02:11] <tatertots> sullivan:    xrandr primary DVI-D-0
[02:11] <tatertots> sullivan: press enter
[02:11] <tatertots> sullivan: now test where games/videos/stuff opens
[02:11] <sullivan> xrandr: unrecognized option 'primary'
[02:12] <telnetrestart> hey guys
[02:12] <sullivan> is it xrandr DVI-D-0 -primary or such?
[02:12] <tatertots> sullivan: sorry i typo
[02:12] <Guest47576> hey lmk when you have a minute tatertots. know your busy helping someone. i can wait my turn
[02:12] <telnetrestart> i have a fresh ubuntu desktop 14.04 LTS install that i'm having issues with installing the newest version of virtualbox
[02:13] <Guest47576> telnet which problem?
[02:13] <Guest47576> i done it severl times
[02:13] <tatertots> sullivan:    xrandr --output DVI-D-0 --primary
[02:13] <tatertots> sullivan: press enter
[02:13] <tatertots> sullivan: now test where games/videos/stuff opens
[02:13] <telnetrestart> it requires i386 packages out the rear, but they all will not install because the require another one that won't be installed
[02:13] <telnetrestart> i went down a rabbit hole about 10 packages deep
[02:13] <juan_> good evening how do i connect to ubuntu es
[02:13] <tatertots> Guest47576: ok will do
[02:14] <sullivan> tatertots, shows up on left/DVI/secondary monitor
[02:14] <tatertots> sullivan: xrandr|pastebinit
[02:14] <Guest47576> telnet, sorry i misunderstood. i thought u wanted to run lubuntu off VM.
[02:14] <sullivan> tatertots, http://dpaste.com/15YSR7S
[02:15] <telnetrestart> negative, trying to install virtualbox on ubuntu
[02:15] <telnetrestart> multiarch is enabled...but for some reason it won't install anything
[02:16] <Guest47576> which verison virtualbox? ill try installing on my live OS im on. same as yours
[02:16] <tekeli-li> juan_, type `join #ubuntu-es` into your irc client.
[02:16] <telnetrestart> the latest version, 5.12 i think?
[02:16] <telnetrestart> let me check
[02:17] <telnetrestart> 5.1
[02:17] <Guest47576> ok ill give it a try
[02:18] <Guest47576> did you remove old version before installing?
[02:18] <telnetrestart> yes
[02:19] <Guest47576> your running the i386?
[02:19] <Guest47576> i would do the amd64 so unsure if it would be same install.
[02:19] <roothorick> xangua: good point. I may actually have a mismatch as I don't recall that PPA including xorg drivers
[02:19] <roothorick> yeah, I'm gonna do 17.04
[02:19] <tatertots> sullivan: ok i found it
[02:19] <telnetrestart> i'm running amd64
[02:20] <tatertots> sullivan: you will need to declare a 'default' ...standby
[02:20] <sullivan> cool
[02:20] <xangua> roothorick: that PPA? Hardware enablement stacks is part of official repositories
[02:21] <tatertots> sullivan: http://dpaste.com/3FS1H91
[02:21] <roothorick> xangua: 16.04 doesn't have working Mesa for AMD Polaris
[02:21] <Guest47576> wont let me do the install. let me try with the terminal. see if differente
[02:21] <roothorick> at all. There's the HWE kernel images but that's only the kernel/DRM end, you still wind up in fb fallback in X
[02:22] <sullivan> How do I implement that
[02:22] <Bray90820> Is there any way to see the output in the terminal when a cronjob runs
[02:22] <roothorick> you get hardware blitting, and llvmpipe softens the blow, but it's still CPU-only rendering
[02:22] <tatertots> sullivan: so if you do not like the defaults that were selected for you...you must by hand..define a default
[02:23] <sullivan> K
[02:23] <tatertots> sullivan: xorg.conf
[02:23] <snowkidind> my log file has a bunch of entries I don't want to see, how do i not view the unwanteed lines using grep? e.g. tail -100 error.log | grep  "without lines containing 'mystring'"
[02:23] <telnetrestart> @Guest47576, I'm going to upgrade to 16.04 LTE and see if that improves the situation
[02:23] <Guest47576> telnet, sorry man i am live boot right now. wont let me do install without running update
[02:23] <Guest47576> im running lte
[02:24] <telnetrestart> no worries, thanks for trying man
[02:25] <Bashing-om> roothorick: Last I was aware Polaris will not be supported until kernel 4.7.
[02:25] <sullivan> tatertots, /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ doesn't have xorg.conf within it
[02:25] <Guest47576> telnet, your not by any chance running kali tool with katoolin are you?
[02:25] <tatertots> sullivan: or you could try swapping the connections physically on your rx 470/480,
[02:26] <sullivan> If I had a DVI-HDMI adapter handy I would
[02:26] <telnetrestart> no, it's a fresh install
[02:26] <roothorick> Bashing-om: hwe-16.04-edge kernel is 4.8 so ;)
[02:26] <sullivan> What can I do with the xorg.conf/where can I find it
[02:27] <tatertots> sullivan: it's usually in /etc/X11
[02:27] <Bashing-om> roothorick: Should workie .
[02:27] <roothorick> I do currently have full hardware acceleration, but, Wine 1.6? That's not gonna cut it. And I'm sure I'll find more old things. I'd rather run unstable than pile up on PPAs
[02:27] <sullivan> tatertots, not seeing it there
[02:28] <tatertots> Guest47576: what issue are you having?
[02:28] <roothorick> my laptop is LTS, and I make an effort to keep the system relatively unmolested specifically so that I have a strong, stable system to fall back on when rapidly spinning blades spread excrement everywhere
[02:29] <Guest47576> alright so i go to boot my lubuntu an its shows start screen and when it would normally show login the screen stays blue
[02:29] <Guest47576> so im on live boot with usb and have the drive mounted
[02:29] <roothorick> HTPC is on LTS, but I've beaten the snot out of it, lots of PPAs and weird configs
[02:29] <sullivan> tatertots, did a locate xorg.conf, no file in the list, only thing is some man's and the xorg.conf.d folder in /usr/share and its contents, and a doc for an intel graphics component it looks like
[02:30] <sullivan> Er, don't know if it's a doc, it's a xorg.conf under /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:30] <roothorick> and my server is a case study in getting away with Bad Ideas to keep a system running, and the effects of such
[02:31] <Guest47576> i installed kali tools via katoolin(done this many time) however, this time i deleted the katoolin respitories. i restarted computer and then i got the blue screen... hoping i can somehow revert back on add respitories back
[02:32] <sullivan> tatertots, huh, I navigate to the folder where locate says there's an xorg.conf, and there isn't one
[02:32] <tatertots> sullivan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver   i noticed you are NOT using the new proprietary amd driver, which is fine, but see the link...ubuntu wifi for amdgpu is still under initial construction https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver
[02:34] <roothorick> I'm actually kinda surprised how quick and smooth the fglrx sundown was
[02:34] <tatertots> sullivan: with that being said, the link i sent previously talks about using "man radeon" to "Check the manpage of the Radeon driver for advanced option"
[02:34] <tatertots> sullivan: does "man amdgpu" exist?
[02:34] <sullivan> tatertots, yes it does
[02:35] <tatertots> sullivan: does it show "advanced options"
[02:36] <sullivan> Doesn't look like it
[02:37] <sullivan> name, synopsis, description, supported hardware, configuration details, see also, authors are the sections I see
[02:38] <roothorick> AMDGPU Pro: Worth it?
[02:38] <tatertots> sullivan: have you ever tried this http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[02:38] <xangua> ##hardware ?
[02:39] <tekeli-li> How long should I wait before asking my question again?
[02:39] <sullivan> roothorick, quite less of a pain in the booty to configure/install, however in some applications its performance falls behind the open source driver
[02:39] <tatertots> Guest47576: did your symptom occur immediately after installing ubuntu?
[02:39] <sullivan> worked fine for me though
[02:39] <donofrio> How do I setup like tty8 to be a second GUI login session
[02:39] <Guest47576> no it did not. had it fully functional
[02:40] <tatertots> Guest47576: did your symptom occur immediately after installing ubuntu?, what hardware or software changes were made prior to the symptom occurring?
[02:40] <roothorick> I'll give AMD this, it seems like their Linux drivers are better than their Windows drivers
[02:40] <roothorick> maybe not quite in performance, but more stable and fewer quirks
[02:40] <sullivan> tatertots, yes I've been using the hybrid driver since I got the card pretty much; installed ubuntu specifically to utilize the open source driver
[02:40] <Guest47576> tatertots, mind if i pm?
[02:41] <tatertots> Guest47576: ok
[02:41] <roothorick> the one thing, I have a Freesync monitor, I'd love to get that working
[02:41] <sullivan> Haven't tried the hybrid driver on ubuntu, so I can't speak to its performance there; worked fine in Mint 18 and 18.1 (including the issue with the multimonitor stuff here)
[02:41] <donofrio> you know so two diffrent users can use the same system without have to logout and log back in again?
[02:41] <sullivan> roothorick, hybrid only at this time unless you're going to upgrade to a newer kernel and version of mesa
[02:42] <Bashing-om> tekeli-li: 20 minutes is considered good to bump your quest back up .
[02:42] <roothorick> what...?
[02:43] <sullivan> AMD is working on implementing FS on amdgpu, but the only officially available solution for FS is amdgpu-pro
[02:43] <sullivan> Same with vulkan
[02:43] <sullivan> Phoronix has articles discussing it
[02:43] <roothorick> from what I'm reading, it needs kernel patches that are currently controversial
[02:44] <roothorick> the whole DAL scandal
[02:44] <roothorick> and the actual implementation for FS itself hasn't materialized yet
[02:44] <tekeli-li> Bashing-om, Thanks. I've been waiting a few hours  :)
[02:45] <tekeli-li> I stopped X with `sudo systemctl stop lightdm`. Now I'm left with a completely black screen with a single white underscore in the upper left corner. There is no shell prompt. There is no login prompt. What is the component of the system I'm looking at, and where do I look for its documentation?
[02:45] <sullivan> amdgpu-pro is fully user space so no issues with HAL's and whatnot, it's just not fully open
[02:45] <sullivan> And I'm speaking in regards to polaris support, I can't speak about previous arch's
[02:46] <tony_> hola
[02:47] <roothorick> I'm still impressed that an open source driver can be this featureful and performant on something so new. Shows what direct corporate involvement can do
[02:48] <sullivan> rootho, wouldn't really call it a scandal, they're working on DC/DAL or whatever to clean it up so it can get upstreamed, I read the messages, dairlie's working with them
[02:48] <Bashing-om> tekeli-li: I do not know the answers . but might advise the channel what release you are running as systemctl is a systemd interface . Does systemd apply in your case ?
[02:49] <roothorick> sullivan: the initial reaction from the kernel maintainers was, well, had confrontational undertones, so it's good to hear they're cooperating instead of having a staredown or something
[02:50] <dax> the amount of "scandal" and arguing involved was massively overblown
[02:50] <sullivan> roothorick, dax, yup
[02:50] <dax> i'm on the relevant mailing list and IRC channel, both sides of it know each other and work together well, there was a thread of "i know you know this but your employer needs to" that Phoronix etc. completely failed to pick up on
[02:51] <dax> s/thread/undertone/
[02:51] <roothorick> I guess that's just kinda part of the FOSS culture. People aren't afraid to be direct and rude, as it's a hobby to everyone
[02:52] <sullivan> rootho, nobody was really curt or rude, that's not what I took away from it.  Looked like a professional disagreement initially to me pretty much, which took a bit longer to figure out because of text lacking context etc
[02:52] <sullivan> Same stuff as always
[02:52] <tekeli-li> Bashing-om, Lubuntu 16.10 `lsb_release -d => Description:	Ubuntu 16.10`
[02:53] <tekeli-li> Bashing-om, I believe systemd is present and working on this system
[02:53] <roothorick> hm. This is 16.04, do-release-upgrade -d is saying there's no new version
[02:53] <sullivan> Just because Linus is mr. logic e mcengineerface and doesn't play well with others doesn't mean everybody acts like that, especially when we're talking about reps from corporations and people maintaining linux components
[02:54] <Bashing-om> tekeli-li: Yeapper . 16.10 is systemd :)
[02:54] <roothorick> there we go
[02:55] <sullivan> rootho what hardware are you running that you'd like to utilize amdgpu
[02:55] <roothorick> RX 480
[02:55] <roothorick> amdgpu and the pro variant are the ONLY options
[02:56] <sullivan> the hybrid driver (pro) works fine except for some edge cases, same can be said for amdgpu.
[02:57] <sullivan> Once I got onto ubuntu the process for enabling amdgpu was about the same level of difficulty as running amdgpu-pro under mint
[02:57] <cuddle> how do i get ubuntu to see my whats on my iphone storage device. it detects device but the folder shows up empty. my computer used to always show the pictures on the phone and not any more. it only works on windows but how do i get it to work on ubuntu
[02:58] <sullivan> rootho you trying to get some working drivers?
[02:58] <tekeli-li> sullivan, Linus has always been as he is now. If anything, he's gone soft over the years.
[02:59] <sullivan> tekeli-li, agreed from what I've seen; dude's got some social weirdness going on (ha don't we all)
[03:00] <roothorick> uvesafb would probably work, but that doesn't count for obvious reasons
[03:00] <roothorick> I have standard amdgpu working with full acceleration
[03:00] <roothorick> but not much more than that... 144Hz is buggy
[03:00] <roothorick> not a huge deal as I run 60hz a lot anyway because this monitor has contrast problems in 144 mode
[03:00] <roothorick> cuddle: don't know about iPhones, but on Android you have to unlock the device first
[03:00] <roothorick> sullivan: I want, well, freesync, and not-glitchy 144. And more performance as always
[03:00] <sullivan> amdgpu will improve over time obviously
[03:01] <sullivan> I just got tired of the prospect of waiting potentially a YEAR for proper driver support under linux with expensive hardware
[03:01] <roothorick> so, Irssi bugged out
[03:01] <roothorick> I did NOT send all those at once
[03:02] <dax> network's a bit laggy right now, probably wasn't your client's fault
[03:02] <tekeli-li> roothorick, I assumed network lag caused all your lines to be echoed at once.
[03:02] <roothorick> ah
[03:03] <sullivan> definitely looking forward to vega release to get an idea about AMD's linux team
[03:03] <sullivan> 's ability to get driver support right out of the gate going forward
[03:04] <roothorick> sullivan: I dunno, Polaris is AMD's latest and greatest generation, and as long as you have new enough XYZ the core functions (modesetting, acceleration, etc) are not only there but stable and reasonably fast
[03:04] <jschalken> Is there a shortcut for "apt-mark auto <package> && apt-get autoremove"? Basically "remove if nothing depends on it"?
[03:05] <sullivan> the problem is OOTB functionality; I was away from linux for a couple years before Win10 sent me fleeing with my hair on fire
[03:05] <roothorick> sullivan: you too huh?
[03:05] <sullivan> Deprecation of fglrx was news to me, after I had bought the hardware
[03:06] <sullivan> We all know the sorry state that is FOSS on Big Green, was at least expecting competent OOTB support even proprietary wise on team red initially
[03:06] <roothorick> I still have my Win7 install. I checked on win10 periodically and gave up when I saw that my biggest complaints are a trend that's picking up speed
[03:06] <roothorick> so I'm dualbooting now, and will be wiping and repurposing that other SSD when extended support ends on 7
[03:06] <sullivan> rootho, what sealed the deal for me was a minor upgrade (not redstone) NUKED MY BOOT LOADER and my mint install
[03:07] <roothorick> that started back on 7, after the proliferation of daz loader
[03:07] <roothorick> they gave up for a while though
[03:07] <sullivan> I was insensed, completely unacceptable
[03:08] <roothorick> my last straw was seeing that they've added MORE ads to the OS, in ways that are even harder to get rid of
[03:08] <roothorick> it's pretty clear what they want win10 to be, and it's precisely the opposite direction from what I find tolerable in an OS
[03:09] <sullivan> Now I hear they might be backing off some of the telemetry crap eventually, but we'll see.  But regardless I'll probably do vga passthrough with a hypervisor before I go back to dualbooting so I actually have some semblence of control
[03:09] <roothorick> you didn't rollback to 7?
[03:09] <roothorick> the one time I tried 10, that's what I did
[03:09] <sullivan> Nerp, I cut the cord as it were entirely
[03:10] <sullivan> Completely nuked the partition and started from scratch with Mint, and ended up here
[03:10] <roothorick> what will be interesting is how they change things as corporations start complaining under pressure from the win7 sunset
[03:10] <Logicgate> hey guys, so I have an Ubuntu 16.04 VM mounted, and I'm trying to sync a shared folder from the host with a guest folder
[03:10] <roothorick> my company never left win7 ent
[03:10] <Logicgate> what's the best way to achieve that?
[03:11] <Logicgate> I'd like to have a filewatcher on the host shared folder, which replicates to the guest folder
[03:11] <roothorick> what type of VM?
[03:11] <Logicgate> vmware
[03:12] <roothorick> this the point where I realize
[03:12] <roothorick> I did this wrong. do-release-upgrade in a terminal inside a gnome session
[03:13] <roothorick> yeah, things are breaking. Pretty badly.
[03:13] <sullivan> it's like dist-upgrade or something
[03:22] <Vader> advise the font for UTF
[03:33] <Herbalist> Ubuntu
[03:36] <sullivan> tatertots
[03:42] <mpchester> So this is a weird one. I'm using ubuntu16.10/unity and have my bluetooth headset hooked up.  The audio sounds pretty terrible BUT the main problem is that I keep hearing "Call from" whenever i'm not playing something
[03:44] <SeaGrizzly> Question - so if I have setup a device as an iscsi target is there a way to mount that same volume so the OS sees it and it can be backed up?
[03:44] <priporg> mpchester, Call from who?
[03:44] <mpchester> it never says, it just says in a female robot voice " call from" and then stops
[03:45] <mpchester> and then repeates after a minute or so
[03:45] <priporg> mpchester, does she have a sexy voice?
[03:45] <mpchester> yes
[03:45] <priporg> mpchester, ok good. problem solved.
[03:45] <mpchester> no it's even more distracting
[03:45] <mpchester> because it's so sexy
[03:46] <priporg> mpchester, i'm sure you can make it a mans voive
[03:47] <SeaGrizzly> Anybody got any thoughts on my issue?
[03:48] <SeaGrizzly> Even mounting it read only would be fine
[03:48] <SeaGrizzly> Although if it were in a sexy voice saying mounted that would be even better.
[03:50] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: do you have an initiator in use?
[03:51] <SeaGrizzly> I could but it was very slow doing a loopback type of thing
[03:51] <SeaGrizzly> I was hoping there was a way to just mount the volume a second time as read only to back it up with crashplan.
[03:52] <SeaGrizzly> So far have not come up with anything
[03:52] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: if you just setup a device as a target..there's nothing to backup...the target is empty
[03:52] <SeaGrizzly> Basically I am trying to build a backup server for windows servers to backup to then eventually push everything to crashplan.
[03:53] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: how many lun's?
[03:53] <SeaGrizzly> Well so I have a disk that is a blockio iscsi target and then connected to the target with windows and formated the volume for backup of the server
[03:53] <SeaGrizzly> just one
[03:53] <SeaGrizzly> so far
[03:53] <tatertots> size/
[03:53] <tatertots> ?
[03:53] <SeaGrizzly> 2TB
[03:54] <tatertots> wwn?
[03:54] <SeaGrizzly> Sorry not sure what that means?
[03:54] <tatertots> ah now we're talking
[03:54] <SeaGrizzly> Sort of but I am not totally understanding you lol
[03:55] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: so you have a 2tb lun, it's empty because you just created it...have you tested writing any actual data to the lun?
[03:56] <tatertots> iqn?
[03:57] <SeaGrizzly> Why do you need the qualifier name?
[03:57] <roothorick> well, that was messy, because of the PPA packages, but I managed to muscle it in
[03:58] <SeaGrizzly> Tatertots yep I have preformed several good backups the the lun
[03:58] <tatertots> why don't you advise your organization to buy real storage emc,equal logic, powervault
[03:58] <tatertots> ?
[03:58] <SeaGrizzly> Then I wouldn't be here would I.
[03:58] <SeaGrizzly> So your saying it won't work
[03:58] <SeaGrizzly> Thats fine just wondering if it was possible.
[03:58] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: nope not saing that
[03:59] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: i'm sure you'll figure it out....maybe not in the next 15-30 minutes..but eventually
[03:59] <SeaGrizzly> Yea was hoping somebody here may have tried something like that before.
[03:59] <SeaGrizzly> I wonder if NFS would be a better option.
[04:03] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: would require you add the role to windows servers, thus modifying them from their state if the role is not already in place, and unless ur the enterprise admin or work closely with the enterprise admin you may need to get approval to add the new roll to all windows servers just for your little project ya got going
[04:03] <SeaGrizzly> That's not a big issue, but wondering if that would be an option that would allow me to see it to back it up on the ubuntu side.
[04:05] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: possible
[04:05] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: what speed is the infrastructure ?
[04:05] <tatertots> please don't tell me you're trying to do this on 10/100
[04:06] <SeaGrizzly> Token Righ
[04:06] <SeaGrizzly> Ring
[04:06] <SeaGrizzly> No it gig between the servers
[04:06] <SeaGrizzly> Also if windows just does incremental backups then they are not that big.
[04:07] <SeaGrizzly> thus why I want to get something that windows will do incremental backups to like iscsi or possibly NFS
[04:07] <SeaGrizzly> The other option is making a VHD file on a samba share.
[04:08] <SeaGrizzly> but then I have to do a ton of work to restore the VHD from the crashplan service.
[04:09] <tatertots> real storage would make your life easier....lol...they might buy real storage and get rid of you though...there's always that risk ;)
[04:11] <tatertots> experience with real storage would make you more valuable to a larger organization with bigger budget$ at the same time though
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> guys keep it bit ontopic please
[04:12] <tatertots> sorry lotuspsychje ...we were kinda get'n out there a bit lol
[04:12]  * tatertots reels it back in
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> tatertots: we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss if you like :p
[04:13] <tatertots> lotuspsychje: no i rarely socialize offtopic like that....just felt like no one else was going to speak to that particular end users woes...it's over now though..so carry on
[04:14] <SeaGrizzly> Yea spending 10k on a storage option for backup doesn't really suit them so I guess I will look elsewhere for answers.
[04:14] <Guest5087> how I change my name here, the command
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Guest5087: type /nick yournew-nick
[04:14] <Guest5087> ok
[04:15] <tatertots> SeaGrizzly: if you ever want to consult, look me up..take care my friend
[04:16] <SeaGrizzly> Later tater
[04:16] <ceibal> cio
[04:19] <HP7653> sucken mein penisen
[04:19] <HP7653> my tome
[04:19] <HP7653> mein kamph
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !language | HP7653
[04:20] <HP7653> !language lotuspsychje
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !ops | HP7653 language
[04:20] <HP7653> !language | lotuspsychje
[04:20] <HP7653> !language | lotuspsychje
[04:20] <phunyguy> YES HI
[04:20] <HP7653> !language | phunyguy
[04:20] <HiddenDjinn> *this* is going to end well
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> tnx phunyguy
[04:21] <tekeli-li> some peeps just have to test limits
[04:23] <phunyguy> alright alright, we have it from here.
[04:23] <phunyguy> back to support!
[04:23]  * phunyguy cracks the whip....  "Your paychecks will all be docked!"
[04:24]  * tekeli-li does the backstroke
[04:24] <HiddenDjinn> paycheck? what paycheck?
[04:24]  * HiddenDjinn breaks out his dice bag and rulebooks
[04:25] <tekeli-li> lol
[04:25] <tekeli-li> what's your game?
[04:25] <HiddenDjinn> tekeli-li: let's take it to -offtopic
[04:27] <tekeli-li> HiddenDjinn, pm me or name the channel
[04:54] <Bray90820> Anyone wanna help me here I have a backup script that is running ssh root without a password and when I manually run the script everything works fine but when i put it in a crontab it asks for a password and ultimately fails
[04:54] <aryo> hi master Ubuntu
[05:09] <catbeard> any way to tell a PCI slot version from terminal?
[05:09] <catbeard> e.g. 2.0 SFF
[05:13] <tatertots> catbeard: yeah
[05:14] <tatertots> catbeard: is the slot populated with a device? yes or no
[05:14] <catbeard> no
[05:14] <tatertots> catbeard: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[05:14] <catbeard> yes
[05:15] <tatertots> catbeard: in terminal> inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebin
[05:15] <tatertots> catbeard: press enter
[05:15] <uberalex> does this channel also cater to questions about the forums?
[05:15] <tatertots> catbeard: if you don't get a url/link means you haven't updated mint
[05:16] <tatertots> maybe i'll get lucky twice in a row, and have people that have installed updates.....can it be???
[05:16] <catbeard> not running mint, running ubuntu 16.04.1 lts
[05:16] <tatertots> catbeard: oh sorry
[05:17] <tatertots> catbeard: got my rooms mixed up
[05:17] <catbeard> np
[05:17] <tatertots> catbeard: in terminal>  sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[05:17] <cfhowlett> tatertots, ?!  inxi should be present in 16.04
[05:17] <cfhowlett> by default
[05:18] <uberalex> or what channel should I be in to talk to someone about the forums?
[05:18] <tatertots> cfhowlett: sweet!
[05:18] <kk4ewt> uberalex, ask your question
[05:18] <tatertots> catbeard: let me know when that completes then we will continue
[05:19] <catbeard> tatertots: done
[05:20] <uberalex> i got a PM from howfield about looking at the guidelines for posting a tutorial and I didn't see it at the time since i wasnt looking for any pinned content...
[05:20] <tatertots> catbeard: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[05:20] <tatertots> catbeard: press enter
[05:21] <tatertots> catbeard: share url/link here
[05:21] <uberalex> so the thread is in the jail, so i was wondering should I modify the jailed post or post a new thread?
[05:21] <cfhowlett> new thread but you can reference the jailed one
[05:21] <catbeard> tatertots: no inxi isntalled
[05:22] <catbeard> sec
[05:22] <tatertots> catbeard: then why did you not inform me of errors on my previous instruction to you which i will now repeat
[05:22] <tatertots> catbeard: in terminal>  sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[05:22] <catbeard> yeah apt'd it
[05:23] <tatertots> cfhowlett: uh thought it was there by default.........look what catbeard is experiencing
[05:23] <Zythyr> I SSHed into a Ubuntu server. I want to excute a command called fbi, but it requires me to use sudo everytime. What do I need to do so I dont have to use sudo for that command?
[05:23] <underd0g> Does anyone know how I might get MSF console installed on ubuntu
[05:23] <cfhowlett> tatertots, both are present by default in ubuntu.  If he's not seeing them ... not *buntu?
[05:23] <Sean_McG> I dont have inxi either
[05:24] <Sean_McG> I'm on 16.04 xenial
[05:24] <tatertots> cfhowlett: so likely he's pulling a fast one and not really using ubuntu just trying to get help in #ubuntu?
[05:25] <catbeard> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23820468/
[05:25] <tatertots> catbeard: search for inxi in software/package manager, its in the official ubuntu repositories so it should be easy to find and install
[05:25] <cfhowlett> tatertots, that is an inxi printout, so I guess we're good.
[05:26] <tatertots> cfhowlett: yep we are good
[05:27] <tatertots> catbeard:    sudo dmidecode|pastebinit
[05:27] <tatertots> catbeard: share url/link here
[05:28] <CrazyTux> hello, can anybody here help me?
[05:28] <tatertots> CrazyTux: what have you done this time?
[05:29] <CrazyTux> I have Xubuntu installed on my laptop and Windows inside Virtual box. Hox can I access the files stored on host OS by using Guest OS?
[05:30] <tatertots> catbeard: link/url?
[05:31] <cfhowlett> CrazyTux, you need to set up a virtualbox shared folder
[05:31] <CrazyTux> ok. But, how?
[05:32] <cfhowlett> CrazyTux, read the virtualbox documentation: fully detailed
[05:32] <CrazyTux> cfhowlett, ok.
[05:32] <tatertots> CrazyTux: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[05:32] <tatertots> CrazyTux: it's totally spelled out for you here dude https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[05:32] <CrazyTux> ok. Thanks a lot.
[05:34] <Zythyr> Need help. I used this example to automatically run a script at startup. My script is simple "sudo fbi -T 1 /home/dev/Downloads/images/sunset.jpg". The goal is to display a sunset picture on the screen. However after reboot its not being displayed. Is it because of the "sudo"? Is there a password require? Which user executes this script?
[05:34] <Zythyr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/228304/how-do-i-run-a-script-at-start-up
[05:38] <roothorick> alright, in 17.04, local hostnames are all screwed up
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | roothorick
[05:39] <roothorick> aw right
[05:39] <catbeard> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23820474/
[05:42] <tatertots> catbeard: you have a 16x slot, you only have two slots so the 16x one should be easy to spot
[05:42] <tatertots> catbeard: is that all you wanted to know?
[05:45] <TactHotSauce> Hmmm
[05:46] <raspado> hi, is anyone familiar with fpm? Im trying to define a requires to build a rpm, if I pass -d <package> it will install dependencies but thats not what I want
[05:46] <tatertots> catbeard: you have a 16x 2.0 slot, you only have two slots so the 16x 2.0 one should be easy to spot
[05:46] <raspado> I just want it to check if the rpms are present to install the package
[05:47] <tatertots> catbeard: http://www.digitalstorm.com/forums/uploads/6454/Pcie_slots.jpg
[05:47] <tatertots> catbeard: you should have enough info now...take care
[05:52] <uberalex> so after reading irc guidlines, irc specific questions should be in #ubuntu-irc ?
[05:52] <cfhowlett> yes, uberalex
[05:53] <n4n0`> sometimes I ask irc specific questions in #help or #freenode
[05:54] <raspado> anyone familiar with fpm ?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !patience | raspado
[05:56] <Bray90820> would sudo -i and login in as superuser be the same thing?
[05:56] <uberalex> well i just recently started using IRC just for ubuntu... so im somewhat new
[05:57] <cfhowlett> uberalex, #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel for chitchat.  This channel is dedicated to ubuntu support.
[06:06] <unkn0wn> hi
[06:11] <Fare> If I run apt as root it complains W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges --- but if I don't it complains I'm not root.
[06:11] <Fare> WTF?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> !wtf
[06:12] <cfhowlett> no need to profanity.  as for the error     apt not _apt
[06:12] <Fare> "apt not _apt" ??? What do you mean?
[06:13] <Fare> the error involves _apt
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Fare, there is no _apt command in ubuntu.  the correct command is apt
[06:13] <Fare> it's not the command
[06:13] <Fare> the command is apt, but the error tells me about a missing user _apt
[06:14] <cfhowlett> Fare, pastebinit
[06:14] <cfhowlett> let's see
[06:16] <wmm> Fare, cfhowlett is it this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/synaptic/+bug/1522675
[06:17] <cfhowlett> still waiting to see the actual command and error in context
[06:17] <wmm> Fare, note that it is a warning not an error (W: not E: at the beginning of the line) so I'm expecting it to be a cosmetic issue, not blocking functionality
[06:17] <Fare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23820614/
[06:18] <Fare> how do I get a user _apt created?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> should not be needed - wait
[06:18] <Fare> also, a group crontab, etc.
[06:18] <cfhowlett> fare: verify: you are doing this at root?
[06:20] <Fare> cfhowlett, I use sudo, because when I don't I fail to acquire the dpkg/lock
[06:20] <cfhowlett> right.
[06:20] <Fare> /usr/bin/mandb: the setuid man user "man" does not exist
[06:20] <cfhowlett> I have never seen this particular error in 10 years with ubuntu.  *might* be worth a bug report
[06:21] <Fare> for reference, this was created using dbootstrap from NixOS (I never managed to boot into ubuntu directly; GRUB fails to install from ubuntu, and trying to load it from NixOS's grub fails very early)
[06:21] <Fare> (the bootimage says it can't find the root filesystem)
[06:22] <Fare> so I'm running ubuntu in a chroot
[06:22] <cfhowlett> fare let's not discuss NixOS as it completely off-topic here ...
[06:22] <cfhowlett> and if you can't boot ubuntu, you have other, more important issues, I would suggest
[06:23] <Fare> I've kind of abandoned the idea of booting ubuntu from now.
[06:23] <Fare> I once managed to boot ubuntu, but then it erased NixOS and Windows from the laptop without asking for confirmation, so I don't want to try again that way
[06:24] <cfhowlett> we can't help you with anything other than ubuntu so ...
[06:24] <Fare> Ubuntu complains /usr/bin/mandb: the setuid man user "man" does not exist --- but there is a man in /etc/passwd
[06:24] <Fare> also an _apt
[06:24] <Fare> maybe it's querying a demon running outside the chroot?
[06:25] <Fare> cfhowlett, this is ubuntu, running in a chrooot
[06:30] <uberalex> cfhowlett, it wont let me jooin #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:31] <cfhowlett>   ?  works for me no problem.
[06:31] <uberalex> says something about services???
[06:31] <cfhowlett> vague info = vague answers, uberalex.
[06:32] <uberalex> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !register | uberalex
[06:32] <cfhowlett> uberalex, register your nick
[06:39] <Zythyr> Need help. At startup, I want to run the command "sudo fbi -T 1 /home/dev/sunset.jpg". This command reads the image to framebuffer of tty1. I used crontab -e to add my command, but the command is not being executed. I setup my Ubuntu to boot into command line using this guide: http://ask.xmodulo.com/boot-into-command-line-ubuntu-debian.html . By default, it boots into TTY1 and prompts me to
[06:39] <Zythyr> login.
[06:41] <aryo> what's the good room for fun?
[06:41] <hateball> !ot | aryo
[06:41] <cfhowlett> aryo, check your channel. ubuntu support only here
[06:41] <aryo> ok thanks
[06:44] <tatertots> try #fun
[06:46] <uberalex> oh i created a thread for this, the firefox version in ubuntu 16.10 live didnt allow me to search the forums
[06:46] <cfhowlett> uberalex, please do not report your threads in this channel.  not what it's for.
[06:47] <uberalex> not trying to do that. i simply had problems using the forums on firefox with my live usb
[06:48] <cfhowlett>   ...   had.  so problem solved or problem reported, right?
[06:48] <uberalex> eh, i just went onto the store and downloaded chrome
[06:49] <cfhowlett> so since it's NOT a current problem and you are NOT here asking for help - let's drop the topic?  or move it to #ubuntu-offtopic.  thank you.
[06:49] <uberalex> it is a problem with the live installer though
[06:50] <cfhowlett> !details | uberalex then put your question into a usable context and format for this channel, please.
[06:54] <Vader> Who will go 20th ebashit democrats ???
[06:55] <neenee> !ot | Vader
[06:55] <uberalex> Well ive been testing Ubuntu 16.10 on my laptops with Live USB and installing trying to learn more when i get off work and today for some reason I couldnt search the forums on firefox
[06:56] <uberalex> so im curious where should i provide feedback for that?
[06:57] <neenee> uberalex: probably on bugs.launchpad.net, search if there's a ticket open already for your specific issue first - if so, add to that, otherwise you can create a new ticket
[07:03] <wmm> uberalex, define "could not search" - what is the error message?
[07:07] <Bray90820> So I have a bash script and every time it runes it opens a new gui window is there a way to run it without opening a gui window
[07:08] <hateball> !details | Bray90820
[07:09] <uberalex> wmm, thats what was what is odd. i wasnt getting any error message. it was returning blank resultts. but when i installed chrome the search worked fine
[07:10] <uberalex> i was attempting to search the forums for turning off the touchpad touch gestures in unity
[07:10] <uberalex> well the swipe gestures or whatever i somehow manage to open up the tabbing between windows
[07:13] <VyvancePLMS> Anyone use Private Internet Access for Unbuntu?
[07:14] <CoderEurope> Morning Frubes !
[07:16] <Bray90820> hateball: The bash script creates an lvm snapshot and it opens in a unity window
[07:16] <Bray90820> I don't want it to open
[07:53] <JungleFever> ubuntu
[07:53] <JungleFever> i love it
[07:53] <CoderEurope> W
[07:54] <JungleFever> o/ CoderEurope
[07:54] <CoderEurope> o/
[07:54] <CoderEurope> Which is better ECC or nonECC memory ?
[07:55] <JungleFever> depends on the purpose of use
[07:56] <JungleFever> home server with crucial information?
[07:56] <JungleFever> if you have data and/or workloads that can not afford a potential error in a bit leading to some form of corruption then go for ECC, if you are doing casual work or usage then just stick with nonECC. the hardware required to run either is typically different to begin with
[07:57] <JungleFever> ie: server grade motherboard with ecc vs desktop motherboards with nonECC
[08:00] <CoderEurope> okay cheers for that.
[08:00] <JungleFever> anyone want to help me fix a shortcut in bash? i don't know what I broke
[08:12] <wmm> JungleFever, don't ask to ask, just ask and wait
[08:13] <JungleFever> cool story bro
[08:13] <JungleFever> :P
[08:14] <JungleFever> wmm any chance you code python?
[08:16] <VyvancePLMS> Anyone use Private Internet Access for Unbuntu? Do you like the interface? I find it lacking and cumbersome. Anyone know of alternatives?
[08:17] <reisio> what is it?
[08:18] <JungleFever> there are quite a large selection of VPN with softwares, VyvancePLMS what exactly are you doing do you just need an external connection or security centric work?
[08:19] <VyvancePLMS> JungleFever, Security. Just looking for anonymity on one of my machines connections.
[08:20] <JungleFever> not sure if i can post links, so do this: google and search for "vpn comparison list" the first link is a site with a huge comparison list between all the pros/cons between different VPN
[08:20] <JungleFever> you should be able to find the level of security/anonymity within that list, it's not a shill site and is based off VPN info so it's very useful
[08:20] <JungleFever> it covers all the key elements one generally wants to look for when it comes to detailed information
[08:22] <VyvancePLMS> Can you recommend one that would be a good fit for a server that is 100% automated?
[08:23] <JungleFever> honestly without knowing exactly what you are doing, no, and sadly i think its always best i don't know what you're doing :P what i would recommend is using more than one if you can
[08:23] <JungleFever> layers can help if appropriate
[08:24] <CRogers> Anyone notice that nautilus 3.22 in ubuntu 16.10 doesn't copy the character typed to the jump-down search box like it used to?
[08:24] <CRogers> nautilus devs say it's an ubuntu issue.
[08:24] <reisio> CRogers: copy?
[08:25] <CRogers> so when you are browsing files, and you start typing, the text appears in a little box down in the corner.
[08:26] <CRogers> in nautilus 3.22, the first character activates the box, but the character doesn't appear in it.
[08:26] <CRogers> The result is, the first character is missing from the word you want to skip down to.
[08:26] <CRogers> It's... intollerable. lol :)
[08:27] <reisio> oh yeah, I did notice that elsewhere
[08:27] <reisio> it must be a new GTK+ "feature"
[08:27] <reisio> they're idiots :D
[08:28] <CRogers> omg, that needs to be fixed. :D
[08:28] <reisio> unfortunately, very unfortunately, GTK+ development is fairly well tied to GNOME
[08:28] <reisio> and GNOME devs are idiots
[08:28] <CRogers> nautilus devs said it's an Ubuntu issue, though.
[08:28] <reisio> it isn't
[08:28] <CRogers> you sure?
[08:28] <reisio> yes, you probably haven't even spoken with a "nautilus" dev
[08:31] <CRogers> csoriano
[08:31] <CRogers> I rather think he is. :)
[08:32] <CRogers> #nautilus
[08:33] <CRogers> Also: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777286
[08:33] <CRogers> they closed my bug as Not GNOME
[08:34] <CRogers> He said that little pop-up box is an Ubuntu tweak to nautilus.
[08:34] <CRogers> nautilus trunk handles it in the searchbar at the top.
[08:34] <reisio> csoriano?
[08:34] <CRogers> So if that's wrong information, it's a very specific but of misinformation. :)
[08:35] <reisio> no, it's not Ubuntu specific
[08:35] <reisio> I don't even use Ubuntu
[08:35] <reisio> anyway, it's not like if you report it correctly they will fix it anyway; they're the ones who broke it in the first place :p
[08:35] <reisio> you could fix it yourself, though
[08:36] <CRogers> Sure, but I'd rather find out who needs to fix it so I don't have to maintain it. ;)
[08:36] <CRogers> Also, I like gnome.
[08:36] <reisio> that is not an eventuality
[08:36] <reisio> one must inevitably maintain things on one's own in this world, or compromise
[08:37] <CRogers> Or find out who need to fix what.
[08:37] <CRogers> and alert them to the problem.
[08:37] <reisio> I'm not sure why you think that'll be more successful than merely reporting the problem correctly
[08:37] <CRogers> much easier, and means more people get the benefits.
[08:38] <reisio> anyway; GNOME has their own IRC network, IIRC
[08:38] <reisio> and nautilus is not called nautilus any longer
[08:38] <reisio> I think what you're encountering, however, is a GTK+ issue
[08:38] <reisio> so look at GTK+ bugs
[08:39] <CRogers> reisio: the bug I posted is for the nautilus project. It's still being maintained by people in #nautilus
[08:39] <CRogers> I'm also in #gnome-design
[08:39] <reisio> dunno what you expect from people who can't even keep track of their own project's name
[08:39] <reisio> :p
[08:39] <CRogers> And yes, I'm trying to find out whose bug it is.
[08:39] <reisio> it's GTK+'s
[08:40] <reisio> probably even harder to get developers to deal with bugs for that, though :p
[08:41] <CRogers> reisio: what os are you using where you see this problem in (the program formerly known as) nautilus?
[08:41] <reisio> GNU/Linux
[08:41] <CRogers> Flavour, please?
[08:41] <reisio> irrelevant
[08:42] <CRogers> The window manager is irrelevant?
[08:42] <CRogers> I rather think it isn't.
[08:42] <CRogers> Different distros have different tweaks.
[08:43] <CRogers> And if this is working on other GTK+ using systems, then it's probably not a GTK+ bug.
[08:44] <reisio> they have the same GTK+
[08:44] <reisio> and if pluto is a planet and not a planetoid blah blah blah
[08:44] <CRogers> reisio: thanks for your help. I'll ask someone else. :)
[08:44] <reisio> g'luck
[08:45] <CRogers> looks like I'll need it. :)
[08:45] <CRogers> Anyone else seeing this bug?
[08:45] <reisio> if you're simultaneously certain of what the problem is and not certain, yes
[08:45] <reisio> you're going to need some luck
[08:45] <wmm> I don't use nautius, but the gnome dev mentioned "ubutnu type ahead", googling which returns some interesting links
[08:45] <CRogers> Yea, saw that too, but that's apparently not related to this.
[08:47] <wmm> well, then it seems you could submit a report on ubuntu's bugtracker launchpad.net and see what the ubuntu maintainers of nautilus think of this
[08:47] <CRogers> I think that's probably my next move. thanks wmm
[08:47] <CRogers> I want to make sure it's not an ubuntu bug before bugging the gtk+ people.
[08:48] <wmm> or: mail the Ubuntu desktop team for more info (address is in the output of the nautilus pkg description, apt-cache show nautilus)
[08:49] <CRogers> nice.
[08:49] <CRogers> thnks again.
[08:51] <CRogers> I'll have to remember that one: apt-cache show
[08:54] <wmm> CRogers, another option is to ask the users of other distros, or search their forums/bugtrackers, since gtk3 is a moving target you would want non-LTS or rolling distros
[08:55] <reisio> moving target?
[08:56] <CRogers> reisio: If you want to do something useful, you could find something to support your statement that nautilus is changing project names. I can't seem to find any information at all on that. :)
[08:56] <reisio> CRogers: that's because its new name is impossible to search for
[08:56] <reisio> it's "files"
[08:56] <reisio> don't ask me what kind of magical unicorn brain fart produced that decision
[08:58] <CRogers> wmm I will do. I've tried once this morning, but the results were... a bit baffling. :)
[08:58] <reisio> gtk+ 3 is not more of a moving target than any other ole package
[09:03] <wmm> most of the linux world is lts, talking as if rolling release weren't a niche (important but sill a niche) won't help, especially here
[09:03] <reisio> mmm, most of the linux world has projects with trunks
[09:04] <reisio> but they also have versions
[09:04] <reisio> and so has GTK+ version 3
[09:08] <CRogers> reisio: Nautilus remains nautilus. They just changed the display name to make it easier for users to find their files. The project name is not changing.
[09:09] <CRogers> Neither is the command to invoke it.
[09:10] <reisio> what'd you say? They changed the name?
[09:10] <reisio> I already said that
[09:14] <CRogers> reisio: They have not changed the name of the project. Only the display name.
[09:15] <CRogers> the command is still nautilus, and it's apparently going to be for the forseeable future.
[09:15] <reisio> what'd you say? They changed the name?
[09:15]  * ObrienDave snickers
[09:16] <CRogers> reisio: "dunno what you expect from people who can't even keep track of their own project's name :p". <- Saying this is wrong.
[09:16] <CRogers> ;)
[09:17] <reisio> you're saying they have two names, and that's wrong?
[09:17] <CRogers> I'm saying the project name hasn't changed. Also, you get my vote for Mr. Moving target 2017.
[09:17] <CRogers> ;)
[09:18] <reisio> CRogers: nautilus hasn't changed its name?
[09:20] <CRogers> Has not changed the project name. You ignoring the "project" part, doesn't make your statement any more true. :)
[09:20] <reisio> CRogers: hrmm? You saying nautilus hasn't changed its name?
[09:22] <CRogers> alias sudo = "seriously"
[09:22] <CRogers> seriously apt-get install nautilus
[09:22] <CRogers> look, I changed the name of sudo.
[09:23] <CRogers> ;)
[09:23] <reisio> sure you did
[09:23] <CRogers> glad we agree.
[09:24] <kernello> hello everyone, how can I convert all files in a folder to another format?
[09:24] <CRogers> guess we'll have to change teh sudo wiki now.
[09:24] <reisio> well, I was being flippant, but sure :)
[09:24] <reisio> kernello: what format are they now?
[09:25] <reisio> you might've wanted alias seriously=sudo
[09:25]  * reisio shrugs
[09:25] <kernello> they are pdf,
[09:25] <reisio> kernello: and what format do you want them to be?
[09:25] <kernello> epub
[09:25] <reisio> kernello: they're PDF with digital, selectable text?
[09:26] <kernello> reisio, how do you mean? yes, I can select a text in the pdf
[09:27] <reisio> I would imagine any programs for converting pdf 2 epub would produce pretty rudimentary copies of the text, and only in optimal scenarios
[09:27] <reisio> kernello: but calibre & its helper apps should be able t manage it, some of the time
[09:28] <kernello> does calibre not only convert to epub?
[09:28] <kernello> does it also do the reverse?
[09:28] <reisio> indeed; calibre does almost anything anybody would want to do with any "ebook" format
[09:28] <reisio> there is never a reason to convert digital text to PDF, however
[09:29] <kernello> reisio, I'd like to convert from pdf, not to
[09:30] <kernello> and I'd like to batch convert, that's why I needed the command
[09:31] <kernello> I found this but dont know how to make it convert more than one file: ebook-convert file.pdf file.epub
[09:32] <kernello> or there is this one, but I dont know if I can convert to epub instead of txt with it;  for file in *.pdf; do pdftotext "$file" "$file.txt"; done
[09:32] <reisio> find dir/ -type f -iname '*.pdf' | parallel ebook-convert {} {.}.epub
[09:32] <reisio> https://github.com/iainb/pdf2epub
[09:32] <jc> So that cups logrotate issue I was having in 16.04.1 LTS? logrotate is actually configured to `invoke-rc.d --quiet cups restart` on a daily basis - this is what was causing held jobs to go bye-bye. Poor form
[09:33] <jc> Changing that instruction to 'cups reload' seems to have fixed the problem, at least for now
[09:34] <kernello> reisio, thank you very much! this is what I looked for
[09:34] <reisio> jc: interesting
[09:34] <reisio> I don't see why log rotation would require interacting with services in any way...
[09:34] <kernello> reisio, ciao, have a good day!
[09:34] <reisio> np & you
[09:34] <wmm> jc, is this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/504705
[09:35] <jc> Third-party print provider had a few tickets about held jobs disappearing, so they'll attempt to modify logrotate's behaviour
[09:35] <jc> wmm: similar to that bug except logrotate tells cups "restart" instead of "force-reload"
[09:36] <jc> Also different Ubuntu/CUPS version in that ticket
[09:36] <wmm> of course, it's open since ages and still unresolved on 16.04
[09:37] <jc> It's interesting because the server was previously on 12.04 LTS and didn't exhibit that behaviour
[09:38] <reisio> 12 & 16 have entirely different init systems, IIRC
[09:38] <reisio> not that it isn't confounding _why_ they have :p
[09:39] <soewin> hi
[09:39] <reisio> hi soe
[09:39] <soewin> hi reisio
[09:39] <soewin> nice to meet you
[09:39] <jc> I read that Canonical planned to replace upstart with systemd. New features new problems :p
[09:40] <wmm> this is unrelated to the init system
[09:40] <reisio> mmm, well, they replaced it after they were forced to
[09:41] <reisio> I'm sure there was some planning after being forced to :p
[09:41] <reisio> wmm: https://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt
[09:42] <calimero_82> hi
[09:43] <soewin> i am beginner of linux user
[09:43] <wmm> The point is that cups is asked to restart. The rc.d thing is out of the equation
[09:43] <akik> helge blischke at cups.org says that cups doesn't need a logrotate
[09:43] <reisio> catalase: hi
[09:43] <reisio> soewin: neat
[09:44] <reisio> wmm: you're suggesting that restarting services is not to do with init systems?
[09:44] <wmm> What you users can do is, subscribe to the bug report, leave a note that it is reproduced in current versions, and make pressure to fix that
[09:45] <reisio> pressure, heh
[09:45] <calimero_82> I have a home separated and encrypted, to make an another os installation need to run a few commands from the live CD before to install? thanks, i've mint mate and want change it into ubuntu
[09:46] <mikkel_> Hey there. I
[09:46] <mikkel_> I
[09:46] <reisio> calimero_82: if you want to migrate an ecrypted home, it'd probably be simplest to back it up, do an ordinary install with your new distro of choice, and then restore the encrypted data
[09:46] <mikkel_> god dammit
[09:46] <wmm> reisio, the cook is doing their job correctly, the problem si the client who ordered it in the first place
[09:46] <mikkel_> i'm currently in irssi in the terminal (ctrl alt f1) since my gnome has frozen. How would I restart gnome?
[09:46] <reisio> calimero_82: you might keep in mind, though, that Mint is sourced from Ubuntu (or Debian, which is what Ubuntu is sourced from), so you won't necessarily encounter many differences
[09:47] <reisio> wmm: if you're saying logrotate shouldn't be dealing with a service at all, I agree
[09:47] <lintguy> I have a Intel Atom X5-Z8350 tablet and i have gotten everything to work except the screen, i can only boot with nomodeset. Anyone know how i can get the screen to work in proper mode?
[09:47] <reisio> mikkel_: GNOME as opposed to Unity, you mean?
[09:47] <calimero_82> mikkel when i have to uncrypted the home? before of "install ubuntu" in live cd? there i a guide?
[09:48] <reisio> lintguy: proper?
[09:48] <mikkel_> reisio: Yeah, I'm running ubuntu gnome
[09:48] <mikkel_> calimero_82: wrong nick :)
[09:48] <reisio> mikkel_: probably sudo service gdm restart; depends on what DM you're using
[09:48] <wmm> lightdm?
[09:48] <calimero_82> sorry mikkel_
[09:48] <lintguy> reisio: There's no 2D acceleration working with nomodeset
[09:48] <mikkel_> reisio: Okay, I'll try. and look for lightdm and gdm
[09:48] <mikkel_> thanks. Next question. How do I exit irssi? :P
[09:49] <reisio> mikkel_: /exit
[09:49] <k1l> mikkel_: /quit
[09:49] <mikkel_> thanks :P
[09:49] <reisio> /help
[09:50] <calimero_82>  when i have to uncrypted the home? before of "install ubuntu" in live cd? there i a guide? reisio
[09:50] <reisio> calimero_82: if you want to backup first, then install a new distro, then restore, what I would suggest would be to backup from running Mint with your home already decrypted
[09:52] <calimero_82> reisio: why i have to backup? i want to use my home with manual installation, i have to format only the root
[09:52] <reisio> you don't have to, it would merely be simpler
[09:54] <calimero_82> sorry reisio  i want to do a manual installation, so before click the installation icon, in live cd, i have to decrypt first the home? thanks
[09:59] <calimero_82> reisio: i don't have a dvd or hd to do backup.
[09:59] <reisio> I would only suggest backing up to an HDD or SSD, anyway
[10:14] <one808> Hello
[10:15] <reisio> 'lo
[10:15] <CoderEurope> I need to setup VPN, that I have paid for with my Ubuntu phone , how ?
[10:16] <CoderEurope> Can anyone help me ? This is all I have so far .... https://www.anonvpn.io/chromeos/setup.html
[10:17] <CoderEurope> and a password
[10:19] <CoderEurope> This is important ... HELP HERE PLEASE !
[10:19] <edaq> hello CoderEurope
[10:19] <edaq> what do you need CoderEurope ?
[10:20] <CoderEurope> edaq: Trying to setup VPN on my Ubuntu phone. all I have is email +password + this OVPN file download .... https://www.anonvpn.io/chromeos/setup.html
[10:21] <edaq> ah VPN on a Ubuntu Phone
[10:21] <edaq> interesting CoderEurope
[10:21] <edaq> Afraid I have never installed Ubuntu on a phone before
[10:22] <edaq> I dont use vpn much myself
[10:23] <CoderEurope> I need it cos I do disruptive stuff.
[10:23] <CoderEurope> edaq: So you cannot help ?
[10:24] <tatertots> CoderEurope: what part specifically are you having trouble with?
[10:25] <k1l> !touch | CoderEurope
[10:25] <CoderEurope> Don't know what to do next - this is how I started off :  Trying to setup VPN on my Ubuntu phone. all I have is email +password + this OVPN file download .... https://www.anonvpn.io/chromeos/setup.html
[10:25] <neenee> ovpn is a configuration file for OpenVPN, it's made up of various settings/separate files combined into one, comparable perhaps to how a certificate is built. You can open up the file / get the required information from it, or use the information in it to manually setup the VPN. I think there are importers too, on Ubuntu you can import/process a .ovpn file - Network Manager can import it for instance. If you
[10:25] <neenee> have a separate Ubuntu system (non-phone), you could import to display the settings in a more pleasing manner?
[10:25] <k1l> there should be vpn support on ubuntu touch. but for issues better ask in that channel
[10:25] <CoderEurope> okay cheers.
[10:25] <CoderEurope> changeing to #ubuntu-touch !
[10:25] <neenee> ..
[10:26] <neenee> or read what I said
[10:26] <CoderEurope> o/
[10:26] <neenee> good luck ;)
[10:26] <CoderEurope> I shall provide hugs for you all later :D
[10:26] <tatertots> CoderEurope: is anonvpn your vpn provider?
[10:26] <neenee> le sigh
[10:26] <neenee> I think he has tunnelvision
[10:29] <JP____> Hey, anyone know any resources for ftp scripting?
[10:30]  * neenee hugs google
[10:31] <k1l> JP____: you dont want to use ftp anymore since its unencrypted. its like sending all your data on postcards.
[10:31] <JP____> Yeah but in this case it's not sensitive data
[10:31] <neenee> you can use ftps
[10:31] <JP____> Also the device only supports ftp
[10:31] <neenee> what device?
[10:31] <JP____> Some commercial human interface machine
[10:31] <JP____> Running proprietary OS
[10:32] <JP____> Can't change that (not allowed to hack it either :p)
[10:32] <neenee> you can even script ftp with bash if you want to
[10:32] <neenee> but you'd have to tell us what exactly you want to do
[10:32] <neenee> makes it easier to give a fitting answer
[10:33] <JP____> I want to login to the device, change to the directory of the 1 file.... Get the file and close connection
[10:33] <JP____> That's about it
[10:33] <JP____> I was thinking of using bash, but i am not so advanced that i can like login to a remote device via bash yet
[10:36] <neenee> google has a lot of examples you can modify :)
[10:37] <Pitmaster> Hello
[10:37] <neenee> hi
[10:38] <JP____> neenee: I found one thnx, now it only has to work
[10:38] <neenee> :)
[10:40] <JP____> neenee: it works :)))))))
[10:40] <neenee> good ;)
[10:41] <neenee> I would suggest having the script retrieve the password from a secure location, make it readable only by the user running the script, but that's a separate issue
[10:49] <Monkey_> hi
[10:50] <JP____> neenee: yeah usually i would
[10:50] <JP____> But the system that runs the script is heavily secured
[10:50] <daxdax89> hello all
[10:50] <JP____> and rarily has internet
[10:50] <daxdax89> my wifi is not working, i can't enable it up in right corner
[10:50] <daxdax89> how to fix it?
[10:50] <JP____> ifconfig > pastebin
[10:50] <baka> daxdax89: use rfkill
[10:51] <daxdax89> rfkill unblock all
[10:51] <k1l> daxdax89: can you show "rfkill list" and "dmesg" in a pastbin?
[10:51] <daxdax89> i've tried but no luck
[10:51] <daxdax89> oh sec
[10:52] <baka> but on my asus N551zu rfkill not worked to..
[10:52] <baka> *too
[10:52] <baka> its worked on my asus x55**
[10:53] <daxdax89> i dmed you @d1l
[10:53] <daxdax89> how do i tag someone here in chat anyways?
[10:53] <k1l> daxdax89: if you show it here, more people could help
[10:53] <daxdax89> http://pastebin.com/MtMdcCau
[10:53] <daxdax89> there
[10:53] <baka> my trick on asus n551zu is hibernating the laptop then resume again...
[10:53] <k1l> daxdax89: beginning of name, then press tab
[10:53] <k1l> daxdax89: can you show "lspci" and "dmesg" too?
[10:54] <daxdax89> lspci
[10:54] <daxdax89> http://pastebin.com/Tqieu9w1
[10:55] <k1l> daxdax89: did it work before?
[10:56] <daxdax89> here  on dmesg shows somethigns....
[10:56] <daxdax89> http://pastebin.com/aiAiDUrV
[10:56] <daxdax89> yeha man t works on windows just fine
[10:56] <daxdax89> it worked on ubuntu as well like 4 months ago when i bough laptop
[10:56] <daxdax89> but i isntalled windows bcs of my gf
[10:56] <daxdax89> now she got her own pc so i am back on ubuntu
[10:57] <k1l> did you shut down wifi on windows? is it a dualboot?
[10:58] <daxdax89> no i didnt and no its not dualboot
[10:59] <k1l> what is the output of "sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[10:59] <daxdax89> sec
[10:59] <daxdax89> how do i turn of system messages here btw
[11:00] <daxdax89> there is no output at all
[11:00] <daxdax89> it just gets me in next line
[11:00] <k1l> ok
[11:02] <daxdax89> k1l, wanna conenct over via team viewer to check it out please?
[11:04] <k1l> daxdax89: "ls /lib/firmware | grep 3160 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:04] <k1l> daxdax89: looks like the intel driver got some firmware issue with that card
[11:04] <daxdax89> k1l, i did check under additional drives something that says intel
[11:07] <Jycp> what？
 daxdax89: "ls /lib/firmware | grep 3160 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:08] <daxdax89> k1l, it shows some link
[11:08] <daxdax89> http://termbin.com/wdxh
[11:09] <k1l> daxdax89: iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section
[11:09] <daxdax89> k1l, what does that mean?
[11:09] <k1l> that is from your dmesg. that is a hint, that the firmware got some issues
[11:10] <daxdax89> yeah
[11:10] <daxdax89> [    9.668039] iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk!
[11:10] <daxdax89> [    9.668050] iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section
[11:10] <daxdax89> [    9.668066] iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Failed to start INIT ucode: -110
[11:10] <daxdax89> [    9.668260] iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Failed to run INIT ucode: -110
[11:10] <daxdax89> how do i fix that
[11:12] <bazhang> daxdax89, using a pastebin for such a huge paste here
[11:12] <daxdax89> bazhang, sorry
[11:14] <daxdax89> k1l, so what do you think i should do?
[11:14] <k1l> i am not familiar with that 3160 wifi card.
[11:15] <daxdax89> when i press f12 nothing happens , wifi doesnt go off or on
[11:16] <k1l> you could try to name the iwlwifi-3160-17.ucode to iwlwifi-3160-17.ucode.bak in /lib/firmware. so it uses the -16 firmware instead of the -17. and see if that helps after rebooting
[11:16] <daxdax89> k1l, maybe i should just reinstall whole system again ><
[11:16] <kamild1996> Hello, I got a problem with my Dell Latitude E5410's Wi-Fi not working after waking up from sleep. Here's wireless-info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23821581/
[11:17] <k1l> kamild1996: look at the rfkill output in the paste. try a "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[11:17] <live> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[11:18] <live> people say that debian is more stable than ubuntu
[11:18] <live> i am a newbie
[11:18] <bazhang> live, a great topic for the offtopic chat rooms
[11:18] <k1l> !debian | live
[11:18] <neenee> kamild1996: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2004690
[11:18] <k1l> live: both are stable.
[11:19] <live> ok i have a question my hard ware amd a6-6310 4gb ram will it run unity well ?
[11:19] <daxdax89> kamild1996, i got same problem :D
[11:19] <kamild1996> k1l, done but now it says "Wi-Fi is turned off by the hardware switch", even though I toggled that switch back and forth
[11:19] <live> it is a dell
[11:19] <bazhang> try a live usb live
[11:19] <kamild1996> neenee, I've done it but it didn't help at all
[11:19] <live> is this hardware well suited for unity or should i try other de?
[11:19] <bazhang> live what have you tried so far
[11:20] <k1l> live: yes, it will work on that machine
[11:20] <live> i have a query i tried elementary os i have tried ubuntu 16.04.1 but ubuntu slighty feels sluggish than eos ?
[11:20] <neenee> kamild1996: ok. but you are makeing use of that module? iwlwifi?
[11:20] <bazhang> live only testing it with a live usb or the like will let you know that for sure
[11:20] <live> it runs all right
[11:20] <kamild1996> neenee, do you mean if it's being used? Well, according to the log, yes
[11:20] <neenee> ok
[11:21] <k1l> kamild1996: try reloading the wifi module
[11:21] <bazhang> live there is your answer then
[11:21] <live> can anyone tell me minimum requirements for running unity?
[11:21] <live> is amd supported well in ubuntu
[11:21] <k1l> kamild1996: sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[11:21] <k1l> live: yes.
[11:21] <neenee> no and yes + unity recently got a low power mode
[11:21] <live> my friends are telling me get an intel laptop
[11:21] <live> linux plays well with intel hardware
[11:22] <neenee> But works fine on AMD as well
[11:22] <live> thanks i will try ubuntu 16.04.2 it is going to launch today
[11:23] <JP____> New Ubuntu :o :o :O
[11:23] <JP____> Must download fast
[11:23] <neenee> I thought tomorrow
[11:23] <kamild1996> k1l, done, this message no longer appears, but no networks are being detected.
[11:23] <live> oh i have one more query linux kernel 4.8 is going to be dropped but ubuntu devs are going to use this kernel in 16.04.2 is it secure?
[11:24] <adrian_1908> hello. I installed pip3 packages using sudo and now learned that this probably isn't the best idea (they share a directory with OS packages I fear). What's the best way to undo this? I haven't been able to figure out how to list installation date, which might allow me to identify the few misplaced packages from memory.
[11:24] <neenee> live: you ask very broad/open-ended questions :)
[11:25] <live> :p
[11:25] <live> 4.8 won't be maintained idk read the news somewhere that is why asked this question
[11:27] <craptalk> help, my internal wifi card is not working since i did some updates a week ago, and not sure what it do. how can i fix this? should reinstall the driver[this is the interface name: http://termbin.com/pl0a]?
[11:27] <craptalk> what can i do with this situation?
[11:27] <kamild1996> Wow, looks like Wi-Fi is refusing to work for a lot of people lately lol
[11:27] <k1l> live: ubuntu supports the kernels that are shipped with ubuntu. they even maintain the mainline kernel when that matches the one that is released with ubuntu
[11:28] <neenee> craptalk: can you revert the updates / do you know which specific update(s) broke it? / is it a known issue? / workaround available online in bugtracker et al?
[11:28] <live> thnks
[11:28] <k1l> live: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2FSupport.A16.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[11:30] <craptalk> neenee, i cant specify the particular updates, since i do the major update at all. i did the apt-get update to expect better result, but then even before wifi issue, i got low graphic mode issue that i already fixed(really a headache). For now i am using external wifi device
[11:31] <craptalk> my internal card doesn't read any access point at all
[11:31] <neenee> ok
[11:32] <hateball> craptalk: run "dmesg" and it should show why it isnt loading your broadcom firmware
[11:33] <hateball> craptalk: perhaps you've had a kernel update and dkms didnt build a new module properly, that happens
[11:35] <gio> anyone that use Ubuntu Mate with network-manager problem?
[11:35] <craptalk> hateball, well can you spot the problem when i send you the dmesg output? kinda dont know what to find
[11:35] <gio> seems that the new upgrade solved the problem?
[11:36] <hateball> !paste | craptalk
[11:36] <craptalk> hateball, what?
[11:41] <bazhang> DKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support. See https://launchpad.net/dkms for more. craptalk
[11:41] <bazhang> he was asking to see if that module was loaded or not craptalk
[11:41] <neenee> + he was giving you a method to share your dmesg without spamming.
[11:42] <bazhang> craptalk, the suggestion for using a pastebin was to prevent pasting a huge swathe of text here
[11:47] <bounceman> rsync -av --progress --exclude '/var/www/html/testdrive/demo' /var/www/html/testdrive/ /var/www/html/production/
[11:47] <bounceman> Can someone say why the dir demo is being transfered to production?
[11:48] <bazhang> bounceman, which demo?
[11:49] <bounceman> the following dir are suppose to be excluded from the sync /var/www/html/testdrive/demo
[11:49] <bazhang> bounceman, are you referring to ubuntu server?
[11:50] <bounceman> Yep, its an ubuntu server
[11:54] <bounceman> ah got it
[12:07] <nils_> hiya
[12:07] <nils_> long time
[12:17] <bbox> i cant access my external hard drive
[12:19] <bbox> usb wont show up on the Desktop
[12:19] <mjayk> bbox: does it show in lsblk or lsusb
[12:20] <bbox> no I tried alot of different thing lastnight and got no reults.
[12:20] <bbox> results
[12:23] <bbox> I tried these following commands and more lsusb,fdisk -l,ls -l /dev* \ wc -l,
[12:23] <bbox> says usb cable maybe damaged but it works fine on windows
[12:24] <mago1> i'm stuck on an old ubuntu 14 server and i've configured the system to mount an iscsi disk at boot. Now I try to run a service that uses this iscsi mount, but unfortunately it starts before the disk is mounted. How can I ensure that my service runs after iscsi has been mounted? Ubuntu 14 uses upstart (and some legacy sys V scripts)
[12:26] <mehmet_> my ubuntu freeze every time after start in 10 min
[12:27] <FMan> that's too bad
[12:28] <mehmet_> what shuld ı do
[12:28] <mehmet_> is that a solution
[12:29] <FMan> install Windows?
[12:30] <ouroumov_> mehmet_, please provide the output of the following command: inxi -CG
[12:30] <bbox> mystery usb
[12:32] <bbox> I have a hard drive with 30 OS linux. Im having trouble gettting the usb to come up.
[12:34] <bbox> plug in usb. Nothing happens. it used too come up. but only recently it stopped.
[12:35] <Ganjaman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Le7luzv2Y
[12:38] <bbox> hahahaa
[12:43] <dimm> hello, All! Have question related to Rsyslog. Why can filtering based on "if $msg contains" not working in my case? http://dpaste.com/3ZHNE6S
[12:43] <Name> Eyy
[12:43] <Name> GUY
[12:43] <nils_> sup
[12:43] <mannen> heylo
[12:43] <nils_> yooo
[12:43] <mannen> I would like to add a custom menu entry to grub that boots to multi-user.target instead of graphical.target, what do I do?
[12:44] <Name> KKK
[12:44] <bbox> root@RED-HAT-SERVER:~# lsusbBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[12:44] <bbox> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[12:44] <bbox> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[12:45] <nils_> idk grub so :P
[12:46] <Name> how are u ?
[12:46] <dexter> hello!
[12:46] <nils_> good hbu
[12:46] <Name> eylo
[12:46] <nils_> heya
[12:47] <bbox> --USB HELP
[12:47] <bbox> PRINT ('HELLO WORLD')
[12:48] <nils_> anyone know if #dreamhack on quakenet is still active?
[12:48] <bbox> :(
[12:49] <neenee> nils_: connect to quakenet, join the channel, find out
[12:49] <nils_> heh
[12:50] <nils_> brb
[12:51] <dworkz> hmms
[12:52] <nils_> nah shit's dead, man
[12:53] <nils_> it used to be pretty active
[12:58] <Harry_> Hey
[13:00] <Harry_> Can anyone support me on the bios issues faced while installg ubuntu on a uefi system ?
[13:09] <NatureShade> any tricks on gettig qtmultimedia working on 16.10, struggling with gstreamer errors
[13:11] <NatureShade> getting following error messages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23821942/
[13:20] <Jazzy_J> Harry_, you still there?
[13:22] <Jazzy_J> I've recently done a UEFI install of Ubuntu and am currently working on getting UEFI working for my corporate Win10 images.  This is a needed skill as hardware released after Oct. 2017 will no longer accept legacy BIOS boots.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:48] <spitzi> Can I run Ubuntu from usb and then let it change the on-disk file system as it pleases? My aim is to sort of dual-boot through usb, and then let Ubuntu run just as quickly and smoothly as if it was initiated from an on-disk partition.
[13:49] <neenee> usb will likely stay a slower. You can make a stick with Ubuntu live with persistence though
[13:50] <spitzi> neenee, I did, but it runs very slowly in practice
[13:50] <BluesKaj> !persistence| spitzi
[13:50] <spitzi> Is the fastest option always to boot from dedicated partition?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> yes'
[13:50] <spitzi> Meh, alright. Time to make room for Ubuntu.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> that's the best method, spitzi
[13:51] <spitzi> Ok, see ya. Thanks.
[13:51] <Harekiet> usb3 pendrive running ubuntu here and it's quite speedy
[13:55] <pos> Harekiet, it will fail within a year. trust me
[13:57] <Harekiet> pos hehe yeh wait and see :)
[13:57] <Harekiet> I'm still hoping to get some extra grub entry to just boot the system with a ram overlay so I can just power it down after I'm done with browsing
[13:59] <JP____> sql-ing in ubuntu?
[14:00] <akik> JP____: yes
[14:01] <JP____> akik: found some docs
[14:01] <JP____> akik: but anything you can tell me before i delve in?
[14:01] <akik> JP____: mysql workbench
[14:03] <JP____> akik: i am a complete noob to databases
[14:17] <royal_screwup21> I wanted to find 5^2 using Bash, so I typed in "echo $((5**2))". What am I doing wrong?
[14:17] <neenee> string in a file?
[14:18] <Pici> royal_screwup21: works for me. you may want to ask #bash though
[14:19] <Jazzy_J> storage prices are cheap.  get a 1 TB drive for your laptop or a 2 TB for your desktop.  Backup your data, reinstall fresh.  Windows first, in order of version, on each indivitual partition then the various *nixs and letting grub do the work.
[14:21] <neenee> with most media being streamed / stored online, I find I rarely need that much space
[14:26] <lostguy> if i dont have software center can i do dpk -i googleearth.deb ? to install it?
[14:27] <lostguy> is it good ?
[14:27] <lostguy> then how do i remove it?
[14:27] <lostguy> i like to use dpkg over software center as it is easy to use and friendly
[14:27] <neenee> dpkg does not manage dependencies though
[14:27] <neenee> you could use gdebi instead
[14:28] <lostguy> ok dpkg -r
[14:28] <neenee> yup
[14:28] <lostguy> is gdebi when was it introduced ?
[14:29] <neenee> It's an alternative to dpkg, it resolves dependencies too
[14:29] <neenee> though installing a lot of deb packages manually instead of using a package manager is a good way to create a frankenbuntu
[14:29] <lostguy> no is it debi a newer thing that came after 2014?
[14:30] <lostguy> or is it always an old thing
[14:30] <neenee> I think it's rather old
[14:30] <lostguy> bu tt thx for the tip anyway
[14:30] <neenee> I've been using it for quite a bit longer than 2014
[14:30] <neenee> It has been updated thoguh, is being maintained if that is what you mean
[14:31] <xangua> Since 2007 as far as I remember, if you mean the graphical app
[14:32] <neenee> no, the commandline one
[14:32] <neenee> I am not aware of a gui for it
[14:33] <amer> how can i run paltalk on ubunto?
[14:33] <lostguy> gdebi is not gui , but 'may' hve fronts ends like all other softwares
[14:34] <lostguy> neenee: what is the package manager of debian? should i try debian?
[14:34] <ubu1> hey how do I run graphical applications as root on Ubuntu 16.10? If I run "sudo some-app-gtk" I get : "Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory"
[14:34] <Jazzy_J> The storage size give you room to multi boot multiple Operating systems if you have a slow processor and low memory or have many VMs if you have a fast processor and memory to handle it.
[14:34] <neenee> lostguy: it's the same as ubuntu
[14:34] <Jazzy_J> Data on local storage should be temporal with a backup off the computer.
[14:34] <neenee> ubu1: Why would you want to?
[14:35] <lostguy> ok so it uses apt-get, but why the hell does debian hasa two pckage managers like dpkg and apt-get like on uubntu
[14:35] <neenee> ubu1: applications should not need root
[14:35] <lostguy> in other distros there is only one-like pacman in arch
[14:35] <neenee> dpkg is not a package manager in itself
[14:35] <neenee> it is part of a package management system
[14:35] <Jazzy_J> On my server, I have about 20 VMs running.  I have 2 TB of storage and need more.  My limitations are that I provide my own cloud with the server (which is backed up on another system)
[14:35] <amer> how can i run paltalk on ubuntu?
[14:36] <neenee> And let's not spiral down into distro vs distro discussions
[14:36] <tatertots> amer: have you even tried?
[14:36] <lostguy> but the debian commmunity is small??
[14:36] <amer> yes not working
[14:36] <ubu1> neenee: it's arbitrary, now do you know or not?
[14:36] <lostguy> i never read it's wikis, which i think is bad maintained, nd no support i think?
[14:37] <tatertots> amer: how did you try to run it...detail your actions or steps
[14:37] <BluesKaj> dpkg is the package management , the others like apt, and apt-get use dpkg
[14:37] <lostguy> ubuntu has overwhelming askubuntu questions wherre i get all my answers and also their site
[14:37] <lostguy> how is debian on this regard?
[14:37] <amer> paltalk exe file so i install wine to mange exe on ubunto but didn't work
[14:38] <neenee> debian is fine if you're a bit more self-sufficient.
[14:38] <tatertots> amer: then maybe visit the #winehq chat room
[14:38] <amer> after that i work on pal-talk express but suddenly stop working
[14:38] <tatertots> amer: or just use http://paltalk.com
[14:38] <neenee> ubu1: sudo should work, your error points towards a different issue on your system.
[14:38] <tatertots> amer: the website works fine
[14:39] <neenee> ubu1: you should provide more context / what are you trying to run as root for instance and why
[14:39] <amer> on ubunto?
[14:39] <tatertots> amer: yes
[14:40] <amer> i open the link but nothing about linux only mac and windows
[14:41] <amer> tatertots ?
[14:41] <neenee> amer: You can just use paltalk from your browser, no need to download anything
[14:42] <amer> yes but how
[14:42] <amer> ?
[14:42] <ubu1> neenee: Do I have a broken system? Basically anything, nautilus, gedit etc
[14:42] <amer> tell me how
[14:42] <amer> ?
[14:42] <OerHeks> amer, paltalk can run in wine, join #winehq for help or from your browser http://express.paltalk.com/
[14:42] <neenee> amer: 1. visit website. 2. sign in
[14:42] <neenee> 3. use it?
[14:42] <OerHeks> no guarantee
[14:43] <neenee> ubu1: possibly, what happens if you run say, nautilus or gedit without root, as normal user from X/gnome?
[14:45] <ubu1> neenee: I am using Mir, and things works well as a normal user
[14:46] <tatertots> amer: did you log in?
[14:47] <amer> i sign in but no interface but only my account information
[14:47] <OerHeks> ubu1, if it runs well, why run as root?? it can be a security risc
[14:47] <amer> no chat room ,nothing about paltalk
[14:47] <amer> and tell me paltalk express under maintenance
[14:48] <OerHeks> amer, there you go, they are down
[14:48] <amer> what sould i do?
[14:48] <tatertots> amer: paltalk express is the web based version and right now they are doing maintenance.....try again later
[14:48] <OerHeks> amer, wait for them to fix it.
[14:48] <OerHeks> you should think of this yourself
[14:49] <tatertots> amer: use the web based pal talk express....no download and installation required
[14:49] <ubu1> OerHeks: i know the risks, and if you are worried that I will come back and blame you or neenee for my mistakes, I will not.
[14:49] <OerHeks> tatertots, web service is down also, i guess
[14:49] <amer> tatertots: what do you mean?
[14:50] <acresearch> people, ubuntu has a spesific arabic keyboard for PC computers, i am using ubuntu on a macbook which has a different arabic keyboard, is there a way to make ubuntu understand the different keys?
[14:51] <tatertots> OerHeks: if i could remember my account from years ago i'd log in and test it
[14:52] <tatertots> amer: web based means all you need is firefox/chrome
[14:52] <neenee> What is Mir
[14:53] <ubu1> neenee: a display server developed by canonical
[14:53] <OerHeks> tatertots, you gave me an idea, it does not work here either ( chrome and firefox)
[14:53] <tatertots> OerHeks: the site won't even pull up for you?
[14:53] <tatertots> OerHeks: or you can't join rooms
[14:53] <OerHeks> website does, but login does not direct me to any service
[14:54] <tatertots> OerHeks: hmmm i wonder if the maintenance just cleared or about to be cleared
[14:54] <neenee> ubu1: I'm afraid I have not heard of it
[14:55] <OerHeks> i read twitter, down for years now :-D https://twitter.com/paltalkstatus/status/524857496599789568
[14:56] <tatertots> OerHeks: perpetual maintenance lol
[14:57] <tatertots> must be one heck of a problem or outage
[15:01] <acresearch> people, ubuntu has a spesific arabic keyboard for PC computers, i am using ubuntu on a macbook which has a different arabic keyboard, is there a way to make ubuntu understand the different keys?
[15:04] <ubu1> OerHeks: Do you have an answer, or do you not know?
[15:04] <neenee> acresearch: I think you can manually map keys, but have not done so myself.
[15:05] <OerHeks> ubu1, ? i answered, don't run graphical applications as root.
[15:05] <acresearch> neenee: i will not be surprised if i can in ubuntu, that is what i love about linux, you can change it, but as you said, how?
[15:07] <ubu1> OerHeks: no you pointed out it could be a security risk - but I think I get it now
[15:07] <OerHeks> ubu1, you stated that running as user is fine, so you are on the experimental path.
[15:10] <neenee> acresearch: xkb can be used to remap, system-wide keymaps can be found in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, you can make your own keymap based on the one that is closest - probably start from the normal arabian one
[15:10] <crazycoder> hello verybody
[15:11] <crazycoder> i see strange ""refreshes"" on the screen....like flash
[15:11] <crazycoder> :D
[15:11] <crazycoder> what can i see?
[15:11] <neenee> are you pressing print screen repeatedly?
[15:13] <crazycoder> ahah
[15:13] <crazycoder> no
[15:13] <crazycoder> :D
[15:14] <crazycoder> i do not know i changed the CPU and motherboard yesterday
[15:14] <crazycoder> so it is something related to i7 6700k and my asrock mb
[15:14] <crazycoder> before i had AMD
[15:16] <BluesKaj> crazycoder, tou'll probly need to reinstall ubuntu since the hardware is now different and APIs etc won't apply
[15:17] <crazycoder> BluesKaj, i really do not know...yesterday i asked this question (here)
[15:17] <crazycoder> an they told me to NOT resintall the OS
[15:17] <ubu1> OerHeks: so your point is that experimental stuff is not allowed or encouraged in here?
[15:18] <neenee> Not encouraged to run normal apps as root, true. Not allowed? You can run software the way you prefer, but if you are doing it in a non-conventional/recommended way, you may find you will not find a lot of help when something goes wrong.
[15:18] <hateball> crazycoder: what gpu? Intel?
[15:18] <acresearch> neenee: wow that is amazing thanks, i just looked at the ar keyboard, it is complicated but ia start, thanks.    since probably no one has done this, where can i publish my work so others use it?
[15:18] <FinalX> well, both the cpu and mb can each have built-in graphic cards, maybe it's related to one of them
[15:19] <crazycoder> hateball, yes i use the default gpu
[15:19] <neenee> acresearch: hm. github perhaps? or just the ubuntu forums might be easier :)
[15:20] <BluesKaj> crazycoder, who ever told you that is mistaken , you have different hardware , so drivers etc won't match up ..you can try to fix things, but if I were you I'd back up my data and reinstall ubuntu
[15:22] <crazycoder> BluesKaj, they told me ubuntu deploy drivers in a fashion way so the hardware is not important...it looks at it and deploys the correct drivers
[15:22] <crazycoder> is this wrong BluesKaj ?
[15:26] <crazycoder> guyss
[15:26] <crazycoder> anyone here
[15:26] <crazycoder> so do i need to reinstall ubuntu or not ?
[15:26] <JP____> crazycoder: what's going on?
[15:27] <crazycoder> JP____, i changed my pc yesterday...i only have the old SSD.....because i changed motherboard....CPU (from AMD to INTEL)
[15:27] <crazycoder> so now i do not know if i need to reinstall ubuntu or not
[15:27] <crazycoder> it works now...i am using ubuntu...
[15:27] <crazycoder> but i see strange flash on monitor sometimes
[15:27] <JP____> Nope, you don't have to reinstsall as far as i know
[15:28] <JP____> Are you using a different monitor?
[15:29]  * JP____ sets mode 777 to root
[15:30] <crazycoder> JP____, no
[15:31] <crazycoder> same monitor
[15:31] <crazycoder> i do not use a graphic card
[15:31] <crazycoder> i am just suing the intel (Default)
[15:33] <crazycoder> JP____, i am using intel driver
[15:33] <crazycoder> maybe should i switch to ubuntu intel driver ?
[15:33] <JP____> Yeah try that
[15:36] <crazycoder> ok JP____
[15:43] <Guest88555> /quit
[15:52] <cbow767> 3
[15:53] <spitzi> Hi, could anyone help me install a bluetooth mouse, Microsoft 3600? No luck using the standard procedure in Ubuntu 16.04
[15:54] <FinalX> spitzi: maybe like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/646433/microsoft-designer-mouse-bluetooth-4-0-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[16:01] <spitzi> FinalX: meh, not for 16.04
[16:04] <kang00> Who is Windows user also
[16:05] <tgm4883> kang00: wrong channel
[16:05] <kang00> Windows says they don't have Linux user
[16:05] <FinalX> "Linux user"?
[16:05] <kang00> tgm4883
[16:06] <donofrio> anyone worked with vmware and gotten an "AirWatch Client/Agent" for ubuntu yet....?
[16:06] <OerHeks> kang00, this is unrelated to ubuntu support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for such polls
[16:06] <tgm4883> kang00: this is a channel for Ubuntu support. Windows is not a supported Ubuntu flavor
[16:07] <tgm4883> kang00: in the event you are talking about the ubuntu on windows stuff, you're looking for #ubuntu-on-windows
[16:07] <kang00> Thanks for Suggestion
[16:08] <FinalX> didn't even know they had their own channel, too
[16:08] <OerHeks> donofrio, i think there is no "AirWatch agent is a device management solution that enables you to secure, monitor, manage and support your entire fleet of smartphones, including Windows Phone"
[16:08] <OerHeks> for ubuntu
[16:09]  * OerHeks just checked http://www.air-watch.com/open-source/
[16:11] <zkl1> a
[16:16] <DaX> hey guys
[16:16] <DaX> i got my wifi hard blocked
[16:16] <Guest4141> how can i fix it
[16:16] <Guest4141> ?
[16:19] <kang00> How many file types of os there are?
[16:19] <kang00> Like .iso etc?
[16:20] <Guest4141> lol thousands
[16:20] <Guest4141> ih
[16:20] <Guest4141> oh
[16:20] <Guest4141> OS
[16:20] <Guest4141> 3 maybe
[16:20] <kang00> Guest4141 which?
[16:22] <Atomic_vvWHj> iso is not really an "os" filetype. It's just a filetype for burning to cd that happens to get used for oss often.
[16:23] <kang00> Atomic_vvWHj which are os file types then?
[16:23] <Atomic_vvWHj> there are .img as well as container formats for virtual box or the other virtualization program I don't remember now
[16:23] <kang00> Why burning to cd; .iso is used?
[16:24] <k1l> kang00: can you say what the real issue is?
[16:24] <kang00> Curiosity k1l
[16:24] <Atomic_vvWHj> I think that's where iso comes from. Cd burner software used it, yes.
[16:24] <Atomic_vvWHj> Could you specify what you exactly ,ean by os filetype?
[16:25] <Atomic_vvWHj> mean
[16:25] <k1l> .iso is just a image of a cd.
[16:25] <tekeli-li> ISO comes from the standard organization.
[16:26] <kang00> Atomic_vvWHj I want to know how os is distributed?
[16:26] <kang00> I am sure it's not distributed in .pdf
[16:26] <Guest4141> k1l, i am hard blocked on wifi
[16:26] <Guest4141> what should i do man?
[16:26] <kang00> So which are other ways
[16:26] <tekeli-li> Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization#Products_named_after_ISO
[16:26] <ppf> kang00: it's only iso
[16:26] <k1l> kang00: the .iso file distributed include installers or live OS. they are run on cd/dvd or usb pendrives.
[16:28] <kang00> How they differ installer or liveos? Do they have different file Extension? k1l
[16:28] <donofrio> OerHeks, without an MDM agent we're going to see hosts being kicked off the wired and wireless networks (business policy is being enforced for me)
[16:28] <aduket> hi, are there KDE users here?
[16:29] <k1l> kang00: no
[16:29] <k1l> kang00: its just whats inside the .iso. there even are netinstalls or pxe boot isos
[16:30] <kang00> k1l how to identify which type it's just by looking at file or folder structure
[16:30] <kang00> You gave 4 options
[16:30] <kang00> Now
[16:30] <kang00> 1) netinstall
[16:30] <kang00> 2) installer
[16:30] <kang00> 3) live os
[16:31] <kang00> 4) pxe boot
[16:31] <kang00> I guess all of them have .iso as file Extension
[16:31] <k1l> kang00: by the name :)
[16:32] <Menzador> kang00: What k1l said, they're pretty self-explanatory if you ask me
[16:33] <k1l> kang00: the file extension is not related to the stuff that is included in the image. its like you ask us how we distinguish 2 different .jpgs.
[16:36] <sliddis> How does ubuntu handle switchable graphics on laptops? I have a hp zbook g2 14". AMD Radeon and intel graphics
[16:37] <xangua> ! Bumblebee
[16:38] <k1l> amd is not bumblebee. that is done by the amd_gpu driver
[16:38] <himcesjf> How to digitally sign a PDF?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> unno if bumblebee support amd
[16:38] <BluesKaj> supports
[16:43] <ppf> BluesKaj: no it doesn't
[16:43] <ppf> is vga_switcheroo still a thing?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> ppf, yeah, thought so
[16:44] <IrcDroidClient> i hear noises around,i feel terrible.
[16:44] <ppf> sliddis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[16:44] <ppf> no idea how up to date that is though ...
[16:44] <ppf> community pages do not generally age well
[16:45] <giuseppedambrosi> ciao
[16:46] <kang00> k1l Hello
[16:46] <kang00> I was disconnected
[16:46] <IrcDroidClient> how does it happend when i wake up and everything turned.
 kang00: the file extension is not related to the stuff that is included in the image. its like you ask us how we distinguish 2 different .jpgs.
[16:47] <k1l> IrcDroidClient: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support.
[16:49] <BluesKaj> IrcDroidClient, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:49] <ppf> !sound | IrcDroidClient
[16:50] <IrcDroidClient> no question
[16:53] <IrcDroidClient> i like watching people asking questions and learn something.
[16:53] <kang00> k1l then What's way to distinguish .jpgs?
[16:53] <kang00> In our case os
[16:54] <noimnotninevolt> k1l: man file
[16:56] <k1l> kang00: check the name
[16:56] <noimnotninevolt> kang00: man file
[16:57] <noimnotninevolt> sorry, thought k1l was the one asking.
[16:57] <kang00> I am not on Linux noimnotninevolt
[16:57] <k1l> kang00: then look at the name. if you dont have a name on that file, then check the md5sum from it and go on the hunt on the web
[16:58] <giuseppedambrosi> ciao
[16:58] <kang00> What's md5sum
[16:58] <noimnotninevolt> kang00: the unix 'file' command has been ported to many platforms.
[16:58] <kang00> On Windows?
[16:58] <giuseppedambrosi> !list
[16:58] <noimnotninevolt> kang00: but, this is #ubuntu, so it's not clear why you're asking your question here if you're not using ubuntu.
[16:58] <k1l> !md5sum | kang00
[16:58] <noimnotninevolt> kang00: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/file.htm
[16:59] <k1l> kang00: i think your question is out of the scope of technical ubuntu support. your questions better suit into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel since they are more basic
[16:59] <kang00> Yes but I don't think it's open
[16:59] <kang00> Need registration
[17:00] <k1l> kang00: yes. you need a freenode account
[17:07] <IrcDroidClient> why people so warmhearted when you answer their questions what did you benefit from it?
[17:11] <spitzi> So I tried installing MS Bluetooth mouse 3600 on Ubuntu 16.04 to no avail, not even with blueman.
[17:12] <spitzi> I guess it would be quickest to just get a BT mouse which is certified Ubuntu-compatible
[17:12] <spitzi> Any recommendations?
[17:13] <noimnotninevolt> is bluetooth a hard requirement?
[17:14] <noimnotninevolt> i'd recommend a wired usb mouse (or wireless usb mouse if wireless is a hard requirement).
[17:15] <noimnotninevolt> i've never seen graphical efi that supports bluetooth devices, for example.
[17:18] <lan29> Hey everyone, I'm running into an error what I try to install things and haven
[17:20] <lan29> Hey everyone, I'm running into an error what I try to install things and haven't had any luck on SO,Google, ect... Here is the error: http://pastebin.com/FDpndDkv
[17:20] <lan29> Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
[17:22] <ppf> lan29: paste the entire output, please
[17:23] <OerHeks> lan29, utopic? that version is EOL, dead, use a supported version please ( 12.04 lts 14.04 lts /16.04 lts /16.10
[17:23] <OerHeks> !utopic
[17:26] <lan29> !upgrade
[17:26] <lan29> OerHeks, Thank you
[17:27] <ppf> lan29: upgrade is probably going to be tricky, 15.X are eol as well
[17:27] <OerHeks> lan29, upgrade from 14.10 > 15.04 ( eol) > 15.10 ( eol) > 16.04 takes ages, i would reinstall fresh
[17:27] <OerHeks> and need some tricks
[17:27] <ppf> ya, reinstall +1
[17:28] <OerHeks> see !eolupgrade
[17:28] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[17:29] <Rish> hi
[17:29] <lan29> OerHeks, when I cat /etc/*-release I get 16.04
[17:29] <lan29> !eolupgrade
[17:29] <ppf> lan29: that's seriously messed up then
[17:30] <Rish> can anybody help me for my sd card doen not shown in ubuntu
[17:30] <ppf> paste the entire output of your failing command, please
[17:30] <OerHeks> lan29, oh, i read linux-generic-lts-utopic, so i thought you are on utopic, never seen that generic kernel on this version
[17:30] <ppf> and /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:30] <ppf> and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[17:31] <xRob_> Hey guys. I'm new to Ubuntu, and Linux is general. I had a VERY hard time partititioning my hdd to dual boot with Ubuntu. What's with this file system? What's ext4? Why did I have to mount it? etc?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> !UEFI
[17:32] <BluesKaj> xRob_,^
[17:32] <ppf> xRob_: ext4 is a filesystem, one of many
[17:32] <xRob_> BluesKaj: Perfect, I'm reading it now
[17:32] <xRob_> ppf: What's a filesystem? :P
[17:32] <ppf> xRob_: unlike windows, where you have individual drives, on linux you have a single directory tree, and drives are "mounted" into that tree
[17:32] <lan29> ppf, http://pastebin.com/YWPFZf6U thanks
[17:33] <ppf> xRob_: that's how data is organized on a drive
[17:33] <xRob_> ppf: That makes no sense
[17:33] <donofrio> OerHeks, found an "VMware AirWatch Remote File Storage (RFS) for Linux – CentOS 6.5, CentOS 7 - 2.1: Open Source License File | Open Source Code" So you'd think ubuntu folks would jump all over this goddness....we need a full MDM agent for ubuntu today....someone give it some lovein....
[17:33] <ppf> lan29: gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !ext4 | xRob_
[17:33] <xRob_> ppf: So a drive has to be mounted as /?
[17:33] <ppf> i'm guessing your /boot partition is out of space
[17:33] <ppf> xRob_: yes
[17:33] <ppf> lan29: i'm guessing your /boot partition is out of space
[17:34] <OerHeks> gzip: stdout: No space left on device .. is your drive dirty mounted ( with errors, so mounted read only) or is the space filled?
[17:34] <ppf> lan29: sudo apt autoremove
[17:34] <lan29> ppf, should have plenty of space only using half my ssd
[17:34] <ppf> lan29: df -h
[17:34] <OerHeks> touch somename.txt # and see if it returns without error
[17:35] <lan29> OerHeks, no error
[17:36] <ppf> lan29: the default partitioning scheme adds a smallish /boot partition. if you don't autoremove things that gets too small fast
[17:36] <OerHeks> lan29, oke, then it is not mounted read only, do the suggestion of ppf > autoremove
[17:36] <brunch875> firefox and chrome use a different flash player, don't they?
[17:36] <j09> Hi, where do I save the X configurations file on Ubuntu through nvidia-settings?
[17:36] <jfk-cm> I can't get selenium standalone to work on Ubuntu 16.10. It appears to start but when I try to create a session it says "Unable to create new session". It works on Fedora 24
[17:37] <ppf> j09: /etc/xorg.conf
[17:37] <lan29> ppf, Ah, makes sense freeing 2gigs
[17:38] <hydrajump> after adding a network connection in the networkmanager gui I can't see the config file in /etc/NetWorkManager/system-connections. Where is the config stored?
[17:38] <j09> ppf not /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[17:38] <acresearch> people i am trying to edit the file that controls the keyboard keys, i cannot save my edit, how can i?
[17:38] <ppf> j09: man xorg.conf tells you all the places xorg.conf can go. that's one of them as well
[17:38] <hydrajump> acresearch: why can't you save your edit?
[17:38] <ppf> pick whichever you like most :)
[17:39] <acresearch> hydrajump: it is read onluy
[17:39] <j09> ppf Would both work?
[17:39] <hydrajump> acresearch: in vi type `:wq!`
[17:39] <ppf> j09: yes
[17:39] <acresearch> hydrajump: won't work
[17:39] <ppf> acresearch: sudo
[17:39] <acresearch> hydrajump: i meant i tried, it doesn't work
[17:39] <j09> ok, thanks ppf
[17:41] <acresearch> ppf: thanks
[17:41] <brunch875> My flash installation on firefox reports 24 but the one on chrome reports 23. Are those two the same thing? Or is there a distinction such as NPAPI PPAPI?
[17:41] <lan29> ppf, Holy Smokes it worked!  In my shell I constantly have problems with lines that extend past the width of the window. when they go on to the next line it gets all jumbled up and I can't read what I'm typing. anyone know how to fix it? Thanks.
[18:04] <Xef> I've already tried stty sane, but no luck there
[18:05] <Ben64> Xef: ubuntu 16what, can you post a picture?
[18:06] <jfk-cm> Sorry 16.10
[18:06] <Xef> Ben64: ubuntu 16.04. one sec, I'll get a pic
[18:07] <jfk-cm> I can't get selenium standalone to work on Ubuntu 16.10. It appears to start but when I try to create a session it says "Unable to create new session". It works on Fedora 24
[18:09] <Xef> Ben64: http://i.imgur.com/aNmFExI.png
[18:13] <digital_ghost>  how to set vi mode in bash only for one session
[18:14] <Ben64> Xef: neat. try doing "shopt -s checkwinsize" and try again
[18:15] <Xef> Ben64: same thing
[18:16] <Ben64> Xef: "eval $(resize)" and try again
[18:16] <Xef> nope :/
[18:17] <Ben64> Xef: what's the output of "resize"
[18:17] <Xef> COLUMNS=80; LINES=24; export COLUMNS LINES;
[18:18] <niko1990> Hello everyone
[18:18] <Ben64> Xef: well that's correct, idk then
[18:18] <Xef> haha, wild. thanks, anyway
[18:18] <Ben64> what if you actually resize the window
[18:19] <Xef> I actually just closed out the terminal and reopened it and it's working fine now
[18:19] <Xef> I did do that before, this isn't the first occurrence :)
[18:20] <Xef> maybe one of those commands fixed it
[18:20] <Ben64> really weird
[18:20] <Ben64> those commands should only be for that terminal, closing it and opening a new one wouldn't have that effect anymore
[18:23] <grmorin> help installation cant create dev, cant write on disk
[18:23] <niko1990> I'm setting up my very first laptop with ubuntu 16.04 (I worked before with Ubuntu, but only with comandline). I have a samba server running on my small home server. I had a couple of network shares, that worked perfectly fine with windows, but now i tried mounting them in ubuntu (etc/fstab cifs) and the problem is that some of them i just have read right, but not write rights... I did not
[18:23] <niko1990> changed anything in Samba, I'm using the same username and password. It works (read & write permissions) on windows 7, but not on ubuntu... Does maybe someone have an idea why?
[18:23] <grmorin> same thing here
[18:26] <carbon-cabron> hi
[18:27] <tomreyn> grmorin: show some output, use a pastebin or imagebin, take a photo if needed
[18:27] <tomreyn> !pastebin | grmorin
[18:28] <grmorin> help  root blocked
[18:28] <carbon-cabron> why 'user joined your channel' wont stop in teamviewer 3 after deacivating them in settings->options->notifications->Sounds Pack dropdown
[18:28] <carbon-cabron> annoying sounds.. .. cant stand them
[18:28] <tomreyn> carbon-cabron: teamviewer is not supported here, you could try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:29] <k1l> carbon-cabron: maybe restart ts?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> carbon-cabron  was thinking the same, try a teamviewer channel
[18:29] <carbon-cabron> hmm.. alrdy gave it a thought.. will try right away
[18:30] <carbon-cabron> it worked thanks
[18:31] <tomreyn> niko1990: what does "mount" say, are they really read-only?
[18:32] <tomreyn> niko1990: put differently: how do you know they are r/o (is trhere an error message, and which)? which mount options are you using?
[18:33] <salamanderrake> how does one turn the Nvidia-*.run driver installer package into a .deb file for install?
[18:34] <niko1990> tomreyn: no, they are all marked as rw, but it shows like i would have not the permissions on the samba server side to access the files and folders...
[18:34] <jfk-cm> Is this the right channel to ask my question? I have a problem running Selenium standalone server on Ubuntu. It works fine on Fedora.
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> jfk-cm  there's also #ubuntu-server
[18:36] <niko1990> tomreyn: I have for example a folder with permission 775 on the samba server. when i try to connect to this folder with the ubuntu laptop it acts like i would be the "every one else" 5er permission user, even though my user is in the group that should have the 7er permission
[18:36] <tomreyn> niko1990: it's probably either the mount options or samba client configuration then. at least one of the two will mount with so that only root can write to the mounts by default
[18:36] <jfk-cm> Thanks MonkeyDust. But I'm just using Ubuntu desktop and trying to run Nightwatch.js which uses Selenium. There's a problem making a connection to Selenium server.
[18:37] <jfk-cm> Do you think ubuntu-server would be better for my issue?
[18:38] <niko1990> tomreyn: when i change the permission on the smaba server to 777 of this folder, then i can read and write to this folder perfectly fine with the ubuntu laptop...
[18:38] <tgm4883> salamanderrake: you don't
[18:38] <tgm4883> salamanderrake: don't use .run files from nvidia, use the packages in the repos
[18:39] <salamanderrake> tgm4883: I want to add a beta driver, but since its a beta it may not reach the ppa
[18:40] <salamanderrake> tgm4883: locally to my system.
[18:40] <tgm4883> salamanderrake: You'd need to extract the package, then do all the packaging of the files, then build the package into a deb
[18:40] <tgm4883> salamanderrake: which driver?
[18:40] <salamanderrake> 378.09
[18:42] <tomreyn> niko1990: sorry i'm not very much into smb/cifs. i suggest you take a look at mount.cifs(8) or smbmount(8) - depending on which one you're using.
[18:42] <niko1990> tomreyn: ok =) Thank you very much
[18:43] <tgm4883> salamanderrake: well, you could rip apart one of the packages that already exist to see how it works, however, you'd still need to know where to put all the files that are in the .run file (which may be different since it's a whole new major version)
[18:44] <salamanderrake> yeah
[18:44] <tgm4883> salamanderrake: is this for support for a new video card? I'm just wondering if I'm going to be doing the same thing tomorrow when my 1070 arrives
[18:50] <ioria> salamanderrake, it's 2012 but maybe will give you an idea http://atomic-penguin.github.io/blog/2012/12/14/mini-howto-building-a-deb-package-for-beta-nvidia-drivers/
[18:51] <salamanderrake> ioria: thanks
[18:51] <ioria> np
[18:53] <shibaloma> !hd
[18:59] <te_lanus> Hi. a quick question. If I want to replace a gpu o I need to remove the drivers currently install or not, I have a Geforce GT240 in one of my desktops, and it is giving problems, got a 8800GT that I want to replace it with
[18:59] <neenee> there's probably no need
[19:02] <salamanderrake> te_lanus: just replace the cards and re-install the drivers, should be no issues, its not like windows.
[19:04] <te_lanus> thanx salamanderrake
[19:05] <uddane> ok I just installed an update to the nvidia 340 drivers for 16.04 and now I'm afraid to reboot. Has anyone out there run into any issues with the new 340 driver?
[19:07] <te_lanus> new?  I'm still on 340.98 for my gt240 :D
[19:08] <BluesKaj> te_lanus, and will be for a while
[19:09] <mcphail> uddane: the time to worry about that is _before_ you update. Bit late now
[19:09] <te_lanus> I'm still a bit skittish about replacing hardware without a thought, a few years (2007) back I replaced a US keyboard with a Dell uk_GB one and had three days of fun trying to work out why my system won't start
[19:09] <uddane> mcphail: yeah, I know.... shot myself in the foot this morning doing this before coffee
[19:16] <uddane> te_lanus: I just looked at the actual driver version and it's 340.98... so you haven't had any issues with it?
[19:18] <nick347> Hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop, and the sounds buggy. The laptop speakers work fine, but sometimes the headphone jack will randomly stop working
[19:19] <uddane> nick347: at the risk of sounding like a troll, have you tried different headphones to rule out cord issues on the ones you normally use?
[19:21] <nick347> No, it's not that, I only have one pair of headphones and sometimes it works when I use them, but then it'll randomly stop working
[19:21] <Ben64> how do you know it's not that if you don't have another pair to try?
[19:22] <neenee> good question
[19:22] <kapu_> bonsoir
[19:22] <nick347> Because there's nothing wrong with the headphones. They work fine with my phone
[19:23] <Ben64> inconclusive, you really ought to try another device first
[19:23] <neenee> might be a hardware issue, unless you can see events of plugging/unplugging
[19:23] <neenee> er, not unless.
[19:24] <nick347> Sometimes they work fine, but if I unplug them and then plug them back in again, then they'll sometimes stop working
[19:25] <moskiteau> hello
[19:27] <moskiteau> So I have an nfs mounted in fstab. It is mapped to user pulse with group 3000 (drwxrwsr-x). When I try to write to it, it always give me a (Permission Denied) altho I added myself to the group 3000
[19:27] <te_lanus> uddane: nope been using it for 6 months on Ubuntu Mate 16.04
[19:27] <wechses> if I manually backup a directory will it remove the old subdirectories and files in the old backup or just add the new ones?
[19:28] <wechses> is it "smart" enough to see the changes?
[19:29] <uddane> te_lanus: sweet, then I won't stress it too much. but I am wondering how old my previous version was. I know I set up this box when 12 was new
[19:30] <Eagle357> Hey guys i´ve a question about Ubuntu Mate on Raspberry Pi zero can you help me ?
[19:31] <OerHeks> Eagle357, join #ubuntu-arm for PI support
[19:31] <nicomachus> Eagle357: on an rpi 0? is that armv6?
[19:32] <nicomachus> ohhhh.. 512 mb RAM. that'd be tough.
[19:33] <Eagle357> ok thanks OerHeks. i dont know nicomachus itśnt a armv7 that is sure
[19:33] <egyptian> hi . i just did a virt-install then virt-build of ubuntu16 but networking refuses to start up https://paste.fedoraproject.org/530046/48476801/ - any ideas?
[19:34] <noimnotninevolt> i'm in a similar boat except networking works fine, but i get two mouse cursors, one of which stays pinned to the center of the display.
[19:35] <egyptian> noimnotninevolt: vnc?
[19:35] <noimnotninevolt> spice.
[19:35] <noimnotninevolt> spice w/ relative mouse movement.
[19:35] <noimnotninevolt> other VMs handle this with no issues though. tails, windows, etc.
[19:36] <egyptian> i got to fix networking before i get to a gui :/
[19:36] <egyptian> noimnotninevolt: try #libguestfs
[19:36] <egyptian> or #virt on oftc.net
[19:37] <noimnotninevolt> hrm. yea, #libvirt seemed dead and/or dev-centric.
[19:37] <egyptian> noimnotninevolt: the channel title says ask and *wait*
[19:37] <noimnotninevolt> i waited a few days :P
[19:37] <egyptian> so .. my question was how do i get networking enabled on ubuntu16 ?
[19:38] <noimnotninevolt> is it not seeing the virtualized network adapter?
[19:38] <egyptian> ens2 shows up
[19:38] <Skython> Hey
[19:39] <noimnotninevolt> can you up it and manually assign an ip address?
[19:39] <egyptian> as per the fpaste i linked to
[19:39] <noimnotninevolt> ah, yea, let me read that :P
[19:39] <egyptian> nope
[19:39] <Skython> hey guys, sounds like a kiddy question, im assuming its possible to sql poison roblox for robux?
[19:40] <Ben64> doesn't sound like an ubuntu question
[19:40] <Pici> Skython: try ##security, not here
[19:40] <Skython> k thx
[19:40] <noimnotninevolt> paste seems truncated.
[19:40] <egyptian> virsh console vm1 output .. cant ssh into the vm to get proper sized longs
[19:40] <egyptian> logs even
[19:41] <noimnotninevolt> :'(
[19:41] <noimnotninevolt> try ifup manually in console?
[19:41] <egyptian> my interfaces file https://paste.fedoraproject.org/530055/76850314/
[19:42] <noimnotninevolt> yea, try setting static ip in interfaces, ifup manually.
[19:43] <noimnotninevolt> you might be able to get a better error message that way.
[19:43] <egyptian> fixed it .. interfaces says ens2 .. ip a said ens3 . weird
[19:44] <noimnotninevolt> ah, well, happy ending :)
[19:45] <rayvtirx> is slackpkg in universe?
[19:47] <DJones> rayvtirx: Looks like its a random 3rd party package
[19:48] <DJones> rayvtirx: Certainly not an offical package
[19:58] <kfc123> hey everyone
[19:59] <kfc123> could anyone help me out
[20:00] <Pici> kfc123: You'd need to ask a real question first ;)
[20:02] <Pengatom> Hi, whenever I lock my screen (either on purpose or timeout -> screensaver) I have a hard time login in again. The keyboard layout seem to have changed or something, couse not all of the keys work. I have an Norwegian keyboard layout, and it still says it is active on the screen. Any ideas how to fix this?
[20:03] <bloxy> Hi
[20:03] <bloxy> Anyone else running ubuntu on their raspberry pi?
[20:03] <bloxy> Hi
[20:04] <bloxy> Is anyone there?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> bloxy, ubuntu-mate ?
[20:05] <bloxy> Yeah thats what I'm running.
[20:05] <nicomachus> bloxy: I have Mate running on a rpi3
[20:05] <bloxy> Same
[20:06] <bloxy> I had to get berryboot in order to get it running though
[20:06] <nicomachus> I didn't have any trouble just loading Mate straight to the SD and booting from there.
[20:06] <bloxy> It always gave me a kernel panic...
[20:07] <bloxy> I even tried mac os disk utility as I can only use a mamicro sd card to sd card adapter with my s
[20:07] <bloxy> micro*
[20:07] <nicomachus> I would make sure you install medium is good, make sure you attach the heatsinks to the board, and then if you have any other trouble try #ubuntu-arm
[20:07] <nicomachus> your install medium*
[20:08] <saju_m> I am planing to upgrade linux-image-3.19.0-43-generic_3.19.0-43.49~14.04.1 to linux-image-3.19.0-66-generic_3.19.0-66.74~14.04.1
[20:08] <saju_m> is it compulsory to restart machine after that ?
[20:08] <nicomachus> yes.
[20:09] <saju_m> i am using ubuntu 14.04.03 lts
[20:09] <saju_m> some services also running in that machine
[20:09] <nicomachus> any time you upgrade the kernel you need to reboot, unless you do live-patching.
[20:10] <saju_m> live-patching? let me check what is that.
[20:11] <nicomachus> saju_m: not a good idea.
[20:11] <nicomachus> saju_m: just reboot.
[20:13] <saju_m> nicomachus, I am planing to upgrade these packages, security upgrade https://paste.ubuntu.com/23823917/
[20:13] <saju_m> nicomachus, should I restart machine after each package upgrade ?
[20:13] <amk_> hi
[20:14] <saju_m> nicomachus, How do i know which package needs system reboot ?
[20:14] <saju_m> nicomachus, How do i know which package upgrade needs system reboot ?
[20:14] <nicomachus> saju_m: just isntall al upgrades, then the system will tell you it needs a reboot.
[20:14] <saju_m> nicomachus, i am using server edition
[20:15] <saju_m> nicomachus, where can i see that message ?
[20:15] <nicomachus> saju_m: I know. install all upgrades, then on your next login it will say "this system needs to reboot for changes to take effect".
[20:15] <saju_m> nicomachus, ok
[20:16] <saju_m> nicomachus, one more doubt
[20:20] <saju_m> nicomachus, Some custom services are running in this system. This package ugrade should not affect those services. How do I ensure that?.
[20:20] <saju_m> I am planing to upgrade one package then restart custom services and test all apis, then do the same for other packages. Is it a good idea? This way I can figure out the package which breaks my custom services, right?
[20:20] <saju_m> Do you have any other suggestion ?
[20:20] <nicomachus> saju_m: you can just use apt to view the package changes from the upgrade.
[20:21] <saju_m> nicomachus, apt-get install --dru-run ?
[20:21] <nicomachus> apt list --upgradeable
[20:23] <saju_m> nicomachus, What I did is, I have a list of packages to be upgraded. I have created new internal rep by these packages and its dependency packages
[20:24] <saju_m> nicomachus, apt list --upgradeable, will show new packages from trusty-uprade repo, right ?
[20:25] <bloxy> y Ijust created a network. Does it make a LAN wifi that other devices can join?
[20:25] <saju_m> nicomachus, i dont want to use upstream trusty-uprade repo, if I use that lot-of other packages also get upgrade. I want to control the number of packages to be get upgraded.
[20:28] <Mikaya> (Mikaya) Hi ! What's up ? Sorry to disturb you but I'm french and it is my first step in AndroIRC. So I search a good channel where I can speak with other people about everythings to ameliorate my english and meet cool person ;) So, know you a good channel in AndroIrc ? :)
[20:28] <Mikaya> Please*
[20:28] <bloxy> You are currently in a channel that is meant for Ubuntu users. What is your IRC client?
[20:29] <bloxy> Mikaya, could you please state what your window says at the top?
[20:29] <Mikaya> Yeah I understood that i wasn't in a good channel for this kind of discussion
[20:29] <Mikaya> I'm in freenode
[20:29] <bloxy> Noits fine
[20:29] <jjuth> hello
[20:30] <bloxy> But what is your current operating system?
[20:30] <jjuth> can anyone give me a hand
[20:30] <bloxy> I can possibly help. What is your problem?
[20:30] <jjuth> so am i currently running ubuntu
[20:31] <bloxy> ANd?
[20:31] <bloxy> And*
[20:31] <Mikaya> Hum ... Sorry Bloxy but i don't know what is my operating system ... :/
[20:31] <jjuth> and my ubuntu server cannot connect to the outside internet and for some reason when i do a route command
[20:31] <Mikaya> I'm totally lost lol
[20:31] <jjuth> it gives me an gw of * which is why i cannot connect to the internet
[20:31] <bloxy> what happens when you press ctrl + alt + t, mikaya?
[20:32] <bloxy> ALso, it could be a problem with your internet, jjuth.
[20:32] <bloxy> Have yout ried connecting other devices?
[20:32] <Mikaya> Aaah ! Sorry but I have not a computer keyboard but I am in my smartphone
[20:32] <jjuth> but all my machines on my network can hit the web no issues
[20:32] <bloxy> Oh
[20:32] <jjuth> only this one give me the problem
[20:33] <jjuth> the interfaces file on the ubuntu box is setup properly so i just dont get it
[20:33] <bloxy> What reqally?
[20:33] <bloxy> It could possibly be your drivers.
[20:33] <jjuth> nor do i know how to edit the kernel ip route table
[20:33] <jk^> hi all, is it better to download ubuntu from official site www.ubuntu.com or from the site of ubuntu community of my country? :\
[20:33] <bloxy> It might be the system not detecting your network card.
[20:33] <jjuth> its a virtual machine so it has vmware tools on it so drivers should be convered
[20:33] <bloxy> You are in a virtual machine?
[20:33] <jjuth> yea
[20:33] <jjuth> running ubuntu
[20:34] <bloxy> It could possibly be due to the system selecting the wrong hardware.
[20:34] <jjuth> hmmm
[20:34] <bloxy> Try opening settings and see if the proprietary drivers are availible.
[20:34] <bloxy> It could be trying to use a proprietary.
[20:34] <jjuth> its odd tho because all my machines can ping the ubuntu and ubuntu can ping them
[20:35] <jjuth> just cant ping outside
[20:35] <jjuth> like it cant ping my default gateway or <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:35] <bloxy> DOes it connect to interneyt, like google.com?
[20:35] <jjuth> nope
[20:35] <bloxy> internet*
[20:35] <jjuth> thats the issue
[20:35] <bloxy> Hmm...
[20:35] <jjuth> internal network it works external it wont
[20:35] <bloxy> It sounds like vmware issues...
[20:35] <bloxy> Try moddifying the network card settings.
[20:36] <jjuth> okay
[20:36] <bloxy> It could be that you arent using LAN, as its the only type of internet setting that works with VMware on my desktops.
[20:36] <bloxy> Its best to try LAN first
[20:36] <jjuth> how do i do that?
[20:37] <galbron> join/ #ubuntu-es
[20:37] <saju_m> One upgrade related doubt
[20:37] <saju_m> When i try to upgrade "libgnutls26", it says 'following packages will be REMOVED' https://paste.ubuntu.com/23824055/
[20:37] <saju_m> How do i know the softwares (running in my system) which already using the packages which are going to remove ??
[20:38] <bloxy> jjuth try unfullscreening if you ar ein fullscreen.
[20:39] <bloxy> I need to refresh my memory of vmware...
[20:39] <saju_m> similarly, upgrade of libcurl3, removes packages curl and pollinate
[20:41] <Zythyr> clear
[20:42] <saju_m> How do i know the name of softwares which already using the packages curl and pollinate ?
[20:43] <saju_m> if some installed softwares already using curl and pollinate, then i can avoid the upgrade of libcurl3, right ?
[20:43] <Zythyr> Need help. I am running Ubunutu in virtualbox. I determined IP addressed and now I am trying to connect from my Windows PC using ssh. Its able to connect to the IP, but login authentication fails. It says password is wrong even though i put in correct password
[20:43] <Pici> saju_m: It sounds like your custom repository does not actually contain your package's reverse dependencies.
[20:44] <Pici> saju_m: i.e. curl depends on a specific version of libcurl3, so you can't just upgrade libcurl3 and expect curl to work.
[20:45] <minimec> Zythyr: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145997/trying-to-ssh-to-local-vm-ubuntu-with-putty
[20:45] <saju_m> Pici,  what about https://paste.ubuntu.com/23824055/
[20:45] <saju_m> Pici, same ?
[20:46] <saju_m> Pici, what about other packages which uses iputils-ping and libgnutls-openssl27 ect--
[20:47] <Zythyr> minimec Thanks, let me look into that
[20:47] <Pici> saju_m: libgnutls-openssl27 depends on a specific version of libgnutls26, and some of those other packages depend on that.
[20:48] <energizer> When I press <Super>-2, I expect the launcher icons to work, but they don't. And when I press <Super> it doesnt activate the dash. How can i enable these? 16.04
[20:48] <saju_m> Pici, What should i do if my custom package required those packages which is going to remove?
[20:49] <Pici> saju_m: You need new versions of those other packages then.
[20:49] <Pici> saju_m: Do you not have access to the internet on that computer?
[20:49] <saju_m> Pici, i want to make sure this upgrade process should not break my custom services
[20:50] <saju_m> Pici, yes i have
[20:50] <Pici> saju_m: Then why restrict what repositories you can update from?
[20:51] <saju_m> Pici, that is not my issue
[20:52] <saju_m> Pici, i am planing to upgrade these packages https://paste.ubuntu.com/23823917/ , security patches
[20:52] <saju_m> Pici, some custome services already running in my system
[20:52] <saju_m> Pici, i want to make sure this upgrade process should not break my custom services
[20:53] <Pici> saju_m: the way that its going right now would suggest that it would very likely break things.
[20:55] <saju_m> Pici, at least I want to find which package upgrade breaks the custom services
[20:56] <saju_m> Pici, upgrade one package in the list then test the custom services, is that the only way ?
[20:59] <Pici> saju_m: Again, theres something wrong with your repository setup if it is telling you it will remove packages if you try to upgrade gnutls.
[21:00] <hydrajump> has anyone used an apple thunderbolt ethernet adapter with ubuntu and it has worked?
[21:03] <saju_m> Pici, are you saying this ?, "apt-get install" suggesting package removal based on the repos specified in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xxxx ?
[21:05] <PickledEggs> Is there a better channel to ask about a boot issue with 17.04? I notice it's not in this channel's subject
[21:05] <geirha> !17.04
[21:07] <Pici> saju_m: can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libgnutls26 ?
[21:10] <PickledEggs> Thanks geirha
[21:12] <craptalk> somebody please help me with this error code #2002 on my phpmyadmin
[21:12] <craptalk> i did reinstallation completely and nothing solved the problem
[21:13] <craptalk> did dpkg reconfigure and HY000 error is showing up, force me to abort or at least leaving me the same error when try to log in
[21:14] <craptalk> is there a way to fix this? or can i have another database server for my web development?