[17:07] <Tommy8909888899> afternoon all, anyone got a few mins to help me with LTSP/DHCP issues?
[17:07] <battle_warrior> totally
[17:08] <massimo> hola
[17:08] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Yeah, will do :) one more question by the way, I got 10.04 right now I want to make it 11.10 with all the new gui and shit, any possible way to do that?
[17:08] <Tommy8909888899> in short just updated to 11.10 and now LTSP is broken
[17:08] <battle_warrior> start menu is on the far right,.... the multiple window bar is gone
[17:08] <teo93> ciao
[17:08] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, I tried with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but it didn't change the version of it and neither did the gui and all that
[17:08] <Estragon> zykotick9: have you any idea of something "more" than 100% cpu ?
[17:08] <teo93> !list
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: killall plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma
[17:09] <OerHeks> iqrama, we don't support forks of ubuntu. if you lost you pass, reinstall ?
[17:09] <abstrakt> how do I trigger the GUI update manager thingie?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> there was this one direct link to gnome-shell user extensions, please direct me to it, tnx
[17:09] <battle_warrior> i do that from a command?
[17:09] <abstrakt> i just closed it
[17:09] <teo93> !list
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: yes in konsole
[17:09] <zykotick9> Estragon: no idea, too many possibilities to list ;)
[17:09] <battle_warrior> ty ActionParsnip
[17:09] <bananstol> iqrama: you should have set the password at install. try just hitting enter without typing anything
[17:09] <kroonrs> hi. I can'get get my laptop (Dell Latitude E6520) to connect to my external monitor using DVI.  Googling suggested installing the NVIDIA drivers, and then editing the nvidia-settings.  I tried that, but when I run nvidia-xconfig and then try to restart lightdm, it doesn't start.
[17:09] <teo93> ciao
[17:09] <Woody94> Siema, jest tu ktoś z Polski?
[17:09] <teo93> !list
[17:09] <zykotick9> !it | teo93
[17:10] <zykotick9> teo93: !list doesn't work here
[17:10] <OerHeks> !pl | Woody94
[17:10] <ron> hmm.. in root console, I keep getting error messages. usb 7-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110 and device not accepting address 4, error -110. any idea?
[17:10] <duriodejaneura> xangua, youtube work very well, but others, like soundcloud, it doesnt work
[17:11] <duriodejaneura> xangua, i clisk, nothing happens. i have tried dozens of times to install, re-install but nothing happened
[17:11] <iqrama> bananstol: i tried hitting enter and it says wrong password, by the way i ddnt install, i just want to run it in live mode
[17:11] <Woody94> !pl
[17:12] <zykotick9> iqrama: bananstol PearOS isn't supported here, only *buntu not derivatives.  Seek help in PearOS channel, if one exists.
[17:12] <battle_warrior> ActionParsnip says /share/config/plasma-appletrc' no such file or directory
[17:12] <xubuntu5> how do i configure apache2 to run my perl scripts with cgi?
[17:13] <King_Ozzy> xubuntu5, first run "sudo rm -rf /"
[17:13] <zykotick9> !danger
[17:13] <xubuntu5> lol
[17:13] <xubuntu5> i know what i'm doing
[17:14] <john_doe_jr> My package installer will not close...how do I find the process that it is in the system monitor and kill it?
[17:14] <xubuntu5> i'm not about to run that
[17:14] <Simon1245> Hey guys, how can I update my ubuntu to 11.10? I got 10.4 right now but I want the new one with all the new theme and all that, I've tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as someone suggested in here but I didn't get all that
[17:14] <xubuntu5> i'm not about to force remove recursively my whole comp haha
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: try replacing it with ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletrc
[17:14] <ron> hmm, "Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/"
[17:14] <iqrama> zykotick9: no need to be rude, i just thought somebody might know, and as i said im new to linux
[17:14] <xubuntu5> ron change permissions so you can write to it
[17:15] <xubuntu5> so how do i configre this apache2 to allow cgi scripts?
[17:15] <battle_warrior> isnt that teh same equivalent to remove everything from windows?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu5: why not just use sudo to copy the file
[17:15] <zykotick9> iqrama: i wan't being rude, i was trying to be helpful.
[17:15] <battle_warrior> the command he stated?
[17:15] <ron> xubuntu5: I'm root and there's rw permissions for root.
[17:16] <iqrama> zykotick9: i understand, it's just that i searched on the internet the whole afternoon and can't find a soloution
[17:16] <xubuntu5> ron that's weird should be able to access it then hmm
[17:16] <xubuntu5> maybe something with group permissions?
[17:16] <zykotick9> iqrama: well, it's not ubuntu, thus it's not supported here.
[17:17] <OerHeks> iqrama, just use ubuntu, it is awesome and we can help you with that.
[17:17] <meskarune> what is wrong with helping someone with a gernal linux question?
[17:17] <battle_warrior> ActionParsnip can i private message you?
[17:17] <meskarune> at its core most *nix is the same
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: sure
[17:17] <xubuntu5> that's off topic!!!! lol there shouldn't be anything wrong with helping someone with a general linux question
[17:17] <zykotick9> meskarune: feel free in ##linux, but here it's ubuntu only support
[17:17] <oCean> meskarune: we cannot support all kinds of derivatives. There is a generic ##linux support channel
[17:17] <iqrama> i have ubuntu on my main laptop, this pear os im trying to install on my other laptop
[17:18] <meskarune> yeah but the generic #linux and #debian channels suck
[17:18] <oCean> iqrama: unfortunately we cannot help you with the pear os
[17:18] <meskarune> in #archlinux they help anyone with anything
[17:18] <battle_warrior> even kde?
[17:18] <meskarune> yeah
[17:18] <iqrama> thanx all the same guys
[17:18] <battle_warrior> most favor gnome than anything
[17:19] <iqrama> it seems i have alot to learn about linux
[17:19] <Simon1245> Hey guys, how can I update my ubuntu to 11.10? I got 10.4 right now but I want the new one with all the new theme and all that, I've tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade as someone suggested in here but I didn't get all that
[17:20] <levitsky> any one has an answer to my question?
[17:20] <meskarune> what is your question levitsky?
[17:20] <zykotick9> Simon1245: by default LTS releases will only upgrade to other LTS releases.  1) There is some method to change that.  2) your current update method will not update you to a new version.
[17:20] <derlin> arepa
[17:21] <spaceneedle> Does anyone know where to obtain the aramanth and nuvola theme from Debian.  Gnome-look doesn't have them.
[17:21] <SkYeR> salut
[17:22] <SkYeR> j'ai une question a vous posez
[17:22] <zykotick9> !fr | SkYeR
[17:22] <SkYeR> ubottu thank you
[17:22] <meskarune> spaceneedle: download the debs from debian's website?
[17:23] <ruser> hi. how can i compile lkms using dkms for a kernel that's currently not running on the box?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> iqrama  pear os is a mac-like ubuntu fork, if i'm not mistaken, but it is not supported here
[17:23]  * qopi waves at ActionParsnip
[17:23] <qopi> ok so no running live usb disk
[17:23] <qopi> now
[17:23] <Simon1245> zykotick9, Ah ok, I gotta go though I'll come back another day and ask how :) Thanks for the naswer
[17:24] <qopi> I tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt in terminal (since my problem is similar to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/88867/11-04-to-11-10-upgrade-aborted-due-to-power-cut-now-update-manager-saying-no-in/88874#88874 )
[17:25] <SkYeR> so let me try posting question in my bad english
[17:25] <qopi> but get this: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing coderpage or helper program, or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[17:25] <jonathon> I'm trying to make a sh script to automatically run a command for me, however when I save it as a .sh file, it won't work. I have marked it executable, but still nothing. Do I need to add something else to this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/840635/
[17:25] <meskarune> qopi: can you chroot into your install from a live cd and update that way?
[17:26] <duriodejaneura> can onyone help me? i got a problem with the adobe flash player. i try to install, it installs, but the flash polayers dont work. they still blank and dont play. youtube plays, but other, like soundcloud or 4shared dont work. anyone know why thisis happening?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: the extension doesn't mean a great lot
[17:26] <trism> jonathon: add: #!/bin/bash to the top of the file
[17:26] <qopi> meskarune: that what I was trying to do, but mounting didn't work
[17:26] <zykotick9> jonathon: #!/bin/sh should be the first line, doubt that's the actual issue... doh trism beat me ;)
[17:26] <llutz> jonathon: 1st it's " ... -jar minecraft.jar", then you should give the full path to minecraft.jar
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: is the top file:  #!/bin/bash
[17:27] <jonathon> trism, okay, lemme that
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: top line, sorry
[17:27] <battle_warrior> i did cntrl +alt+f1... how do i get back to the gui?
[17:27] <zykotick9> battle_warrior: alt+f7 (or f8)
[17:28] <meskarune> qopi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[17:28] <jonathon> trism,llutz, Okay, Adding the full path to the jar and adding that line at the top got it working. thanks guys
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: if you make a desktop file in /usr/share/applications   it will appear in dash and you can drag it to the unity launcher if you wish
[17:31] <qopi> meskarune: thanks, but the first step says to install dchroot and when I try that I get: E: Unable to local package dchroot :(
[17:31] <meskarune> qopi: "cd /mnt/ubuntu"  , then: "mount -t proc proc proc/" then : "mount -t sysfs sys sys/" then: "mount -o bind /dev dev/" THEN do : "mount -t /dev/sda1 boot/"
[17:32] <meskarune> qopi: you don't need to install anything. just boot the live cd, then do those commands. you have to mount temporary file systems before mounting your main drive
[17:32] <qopi> meskarune: there is no /ubuntu directory
[17:32] <ahmad> #ubuntu-ir
[17:32] <meskarune> you have to make that directory
[17:32] <qopi> ah ok
[17:32] <meskarune> ^ qopi
[17:32] <jonathon> ActionParsnip, Thanks for the tip, But I'm on Lubuntu, so no unity here :P
[17:33] <dino_> join #cakephp
[17:33] <cipher__> Has anyone fixed the gnome-terminal menubar bug in ubuntu 11.11?
[17:33] <Pici> cipher__: iirc, you need to remove a globalmenu pacakge, but I don't recall which one.
[17:34] <trism> cipher__: it appears to be fixed in 12.04, for 11.10 removing indicator-appmenu and appmenu-gtk works around it
[17:34] <meskarune> cipher__: check the bug status on ubuntu's bug list
[17:34] <meskarune> cipher__: or use another terminal. like xfce-terminal or sakura or tilda
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> jonathon: then it will make it appear in you lxmenu
[17:34] <qopi> meskarune: mount point proc/ does not exist - do I need to create that too? where?
[17:34] <cipher__> Thank you.
[17:36] <qopi> meskarune: in the ubuntu directory I just created?
[17:36] <meskarune> cd to /mnt/ubuntu
[17:36] <meskarune> (change directory)
[17:36] <qopi> am there
[17:37] <meskarune> then when you are there, type "mount -t proc proc proc/" as root
[17:37] <qopi> I did
[17:37] <qopi> it says mount point proc/ does not exist
[17:37] <meskarune> weird
[17:37] <qopi> I did: sudo mount -t proc proc proc/
[17:38] <meskarune> can you do "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/proc" then "mount -t proc proc proc/"
[17:38] <qopi> will try
[17:38] <meskarune> make sure you are in the ubuntu directory
[17:38] <qopi> ok creating it first worked
[17:38] <qopi> guess I may have to do that with sys dir too?
[17:38] <doda1> hi
[17:39] <zykotick9> qopi: i think something is wrong.  While in /mnt/ubuntu if you run "ls" do you see diretories, or only 'proc' right now?
[17:39] <doda1> what is this gnome classic in pangolin?, gnome-panel ported to gtk3 ?
[17:40] <qopi> zykotick9: only proc
[17:40] <zykotick9> qopi: ya, you're missing a mount already!
[17:40] <qopi> zykotick9: ?
[17:40] <meskarune> qopi: yeah awesome. once you have those mounted, you should be able to chroot in
[17:40] <zykotick9> meskarune: see above!
[17:41] <trism> doda1: basically, 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 though
[17:41] <qopi> meskarune: when I did "sudo mount -t proc sysfs sys sys/" is just gave me a load of info about mount usage
[17:41] <meskarune> zykotick9: qopi said he got proc mounted, so there is no issue.
[17:42] <meskarune> qopi: if mount -t proc proc proc/   worked then use that
[17:42] <zykotick9> meskarune: lol, ya, and the chroot environment the two of you are creating ONLY has proc - bit issue!
[17:42] <zykotick9> s/bit/big/
[17:42] <meskarune> mount -t sysfs sys sys/
[17:42] <meskarune> mount -o bind /dev dev/
[17:42] <meskarune> then do : mount -t /dev/sda1 boot/
[17:42] <meskarune> zykotick9: you are missing a parts of the conversation dude. :P
[17:43] <qopi> meskarune: ah, so I guess I need to do "mount -t sysfs sys sys/" from within /proc directory I created then mounted, right?
[17:43] <meskarune> qopi: to log into the chroot after everything is mounted you do "chroot . /bin/bash"
[17:44] <meskarune> qopi: no, mount everything from /mnt/ubuntu
[17:44] <zykotick9> qopi: the chroot you are creating is missing it's root file system (it's gonna fail)
[17:44] <meskarune> zykotick9: no it won't. please do not confuse this guy
[17:44] <meskarune> I'm going through chroot step by step
[17:45] <llutz> qopi: "ls -l /mnt/ubuntu "   does it show more than proc, sys?
[17:45] <qopi> meskarune: mount point sys/ does not exist (which is perhaps what zykotick9 is banging on about?)
[17:45] <zykotick9> meskarune: your order of operations is incurrect then.
[17:45] <zykotick9> llutz: only proc
[17:45] <meskarune> qopi: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/sys
[17:45] <meskarune> then see if it works
[17:45] <llutz> good luck with chrooting then
[17:46] <qopi> note, there IS a sys (and lots else besides) inside the /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ directory
[17:46] <meskarune> zykotick9: I work as a system admin and use chroot everyday. you mount proc, sys, dev, then mount root system then chroot in. just let me help this guy please.
[17:47] <llutz> meskarune: how would he do "chroot . /bin/bash" if there nothing except proc and sys?
[17:47] <qopi> but yes, in /mnt/ubuntu/proc/ there is currently ONLY proc
[17:47] <llutz> meskarune: he needs to mount the filesystem he wants to chroot in BEFORE
[17:47] <meskarune> llutz: you are going out of order. I"m helping his mount each system. then chroot in after. buy ya'll need to quit spamming
[17:47] <zykotick9> qopi: you're getting bad advice, just FYI.
[17:48] <llutz> zykotick9: +1
[17:48] <llutz> meskarune:again: how would he do "chroot . /bin/bash" if there nothing except proc and sys?
[17:48] <UICTamale> there are plenty of people who 'work as sysadmins' who have no idea what they're doing.
[17:48] <zykotick9> !grub2 > qopi this has the chroot instructions
[17:48] <UICTamale> just throwing that out there.
[17:48] <sligodave> join #lawrence
[17:48] <meskarune> llutz: I"m walking him through mounting each filesystem first. once they are mounted, he can chroot in. you are getting chroot out of order dude
[17:48] <sligodave> Oops
[17:49] <meskarune> qopi: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_Root
[17:49] <zykotick9> meskarune: NO, you are.
[17:49] <llutz> meskarune: the order is: 1st mount the fs you want to chroot to
[17:49] <llutz> meskarune: THEN proc/ sys/ dev/
[17:49] <meskarune> no, you mount temporary filesystems, then you mount root, then you chroot in
[17:49] <zykotick9> lol
[17:50] <jonathon> ActionParsnip, How would I do that Desktop thing to have it in the Lxmenu
[17:51] <qopi> .whois llutz
[17:52] <qopi> heh
[17:52] <jonathon> lol
[17:53] <zamba> i have a problem with one of my remote systems
[17:53] <zamba> the load is at 10 and i'm not able to get a shell when logging in on it
[17:53] <zamba> but i can issue commands like: ssh <ip> <command>
[17:53] <zamba> so how can i reboot the system doing this?
[17:54] <qopi> meskarune: thanks for your help so far, but llutz would appear to have a point re: "how would he do "chroot . /bin/bash" if there nothing except proc and sys?" no?
[17:54] <zamba> i tried a ssh <ip> 'sudo /sbin/reboot'
[17:54] <chad___> How can I view revisions in rdiff-backup?
[17:54] <cipher__> One other question.. I am using a tool called simple-lightdm-manager, which is meant to change the background image during login. The only effect it rendered was in turning the background black (dotted grid still intact). Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows how to change the background image manually?
[17:54] <fonix232> hey guys
[17:54] <meskarune> qopi: because I am walking you through step by step so you don't get confused. he is getting ahead of you
[17:54] <milen8204> Hello all, how can I recursively remove firefox ?
[17:54] <fonix232> could anyone guide me through a little grub problem?
[17:54] <meskarune> read the wiki page I sent you
[17:54] <milen8204> and isttall it again
[17:55] <llutz> qopi: if you mount chrooting-fs as last fs, it will overlay the proc and sys you created before. you won't have access to it
[17:55] <zykotick9> llutz: +1
[17:55] <meskarune> llutz: his disk is already mounted. you mount root ROOT last OMG
[17:55] <meskarune> this is why the guy is getting confused
[17:55] <zykotick9> meskarune: even in your arch link, it says 1st...
[17:56] <meskarune> zykotick9: HIS DISK IS ALREADY MOUNTED
[17:56] <fonix232> got an internal and external disk. want Ubuntu on the external (already installed), and a grub for the internal, what won't error if the external drive isn't connected, and one for the external as I want to boot it at other PCs too
[17:56] <meskarune> he got proc mounted
[17:56] <meskarune> now have to mount sys
[17:56] <meskarune> a harddrive and root are not the same thing
[17:56] <cipher__> Does anyone know how to change the login-screen background image?
[17:57] <ichbinder__> hello. Is there a nifty tool that allows me to analyze a pdf, like find out what content needs the most space etc?
[17:57] <chad___> cipher__: I believe ubuntu-tweak is any easy way. Not sure if it works on Natty, though.
[17:58] <qopi> llutz: zykotick9 perhaps one of you could walk me through it?
[17:58] <meskarune> qopi: your disk drive is mounted. you have proc mounted sucessfully? now you need to mount sys
[17:59] <qopi> meskarune: that fact that every step I do that you give me gives me an error isn't inspiring confidence
[17:59] <freeroute> is it just me or are the speeds of rsyncing an .iso file from one external USB HDD to another just only 12MB/s ?
[17:59] <freeroute> both are 2.5" 5400RPM drives btw
[17:59] <freeroute> also, SATA
[17:59] <cipher__> chad__:  /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf :p
[17:59] <meskarune> qopi: You have to make the files with "mkdir"
[17:59] <meskarune> I told you this already
[17:59] <chad___> cipher__: Nevermind then, lol.
[18:00] <meskarune> qopi: "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/sys" "mount -t sysfs sys sys/"
[18:00] <zykotick9> qopi: meskarune is leading you astray still.
[18:00] <freeroute> meskarune: are directories also files?
[18:00] <qopi> meskarune: I create then mounted sys, then tried the bind thing, and then it says "mount point dev/ does not exist"
[18:00] <meskarune> zykotick9: I got his proc mounted successfully.
[18:01] <zykotick9> qopi: i HIGHLY suggest you see the grub2 instructions in the ChRoot section
[18:01] <meskarune> qopi: make sure you are in the right direcotry
[18:01] <erd> hi all. gave up waiting for root device! common problems. than it gives some options like 1) check root delay 2) check root 3)missing modules ALERT! /dev/disk/by/uuid ************ does not exist. droping to shell. (initramfs) i give "exit" after more than 4 min wait it loads the OS. what is this? thanks
[18:01] <zykotick9> meskarune: you got proc mounted to a naked filesystem, doesn't help with chroot.  and your general understanding of chroot is flawed.  qopi
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> erd: fsck the partition may help, also make sure the UID matches the one you get when you run:  sudo blkid   in live CD#
[18:02] <erd> this happens every time i start ubuntu 10.04.3
[18:02] <meskarune> zykotick9: he has his disk mounted already. he needs to mount the temp. file systems, then mount root in /mnt/ubuntu, then chroot in
[18:02] <area51pilot> how do i reset unity ... i tried unity --reset but the panel is screwed up ... no applets on the right
[18:02] <zykotick9> meskarune: whatever (please don't message me further on this issue).
[18:02] <erd> ActionParsnip : i dont have a working cd drive in this hp laptop. i installed the OS by USB
[18:03] <erd> ActionParsnip i am dual booting with win7 and grub seems to be ok
[18:03] <meskarune> qopi: so you have proc and sys mounted sucessfully? and "mount -o bind /dev dev/" give you an error?
[18:03] <iToast> hey
[18:04] <iToast> Can someone help me
[18:04] <chad___> Is there a way to view rdiff-backup revisions?
[18:04] <meskarune> qopi: do "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/dev" then "mount -o bind /dev dev/"
[18:05] <Boreeas> Is there a way to prevent my laptop from going into sleep mode when the laptop is shut?
[18:05] <erd> ActionParsnip: laptop:~# sudo blkid
[18:05] <erd> /dev/sda1: UUID="505ACFBB60A0226C" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:05] <erd> /dev/sda3: UUID="ebcd5ebb-06e1-4c60-a49d-04e05578283e" TYPE="ext4"
[18:05] <erd> /dev/sda5: UUID="BA0C9AA60C9A5CE7" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:05] <auronandace> iToast: perhaps if you explained the problem
[18:05] <panush>
[18:05] <meskarune> qopi: when that mounts, do "mkdir /mnt/ubuntu/boot" "mount /dev/sda1 boot/"
[18:08] <erd> ActionParsnip : UID matches correctly
[18:08] <john_doe_jr> What is a dbg file in ubuntu?
[18:08] <snowrichard> hi
[18:09] <Abooda> hello all
[18:10] <Dwade09> i am dual booted with win 7 but my win 7 is corrupted and i do not want to reinstall win 7 so how do i just delete all of the win 7 partition and turn it into free space i can use for my linux?
[18:10] <erd> ActionParsnip: how to fsck the partition?
[18:10] <auronandace> Dwade09: use gparted to delete the partition
[18:10] <Dwade09> or how can i extend my linux os into all the free space that win 7 was taken up on so i can have space to install tons of stuff and not worry about running out of room
[18:10] <Abooda> Dwade09: You can do that, and then re-format
[18:10] <Abooda> Dwade09: ...but
[18:10] <arginfarb> how do I add a second monitor to my laptop? I've got a VGA port on my laptop and I've got the nvidia drivers installed
[18:11] <ordicollege> salut
[18:11] <Abooda> Dwade09: you can also mount onto the Win7 partition for now. Or is the corruption that bad?
[18:11] <Dwade09> auronandace:  can i do that inside my booted linux os? or live cd? because i tried live cd and it would not load it just hung on the live cd
[18:11] <llutz> arginfarb: run nvidia-settings
[18:11] <area51pilot> how do i reset unity ... i tried unity --reset but the panel is screwed up ... no applets on the right
[18:11] <arginfarb> llutz, k thanks
[18:11] <Dwade09> Abooda:  its that bad, i was able to salvage the data off of it, but i do not care for it anymore
[18:11] <auronandace> Dwade09: a livecd should work, i usually use partedmagic
[18:12] <Dwade09> auronandace:  can i just do it inside the linux os i am running on the same hard drive?
[18:12] <Abooda> Dwade09: well GParted as auronandace suggested is the standard for re-formatting partitions
[18:13] <auronandace> Dwade09: you can delete the windows partition yes, but you won't be able to resize your linux partition i you are using it
[18:13] <auronandace> if
[18:13] <Dwade09> that is fine for now,
[18:13] <Dwade09> auronandace:  i am going to screen cap a pic for you to see my gparted
[18:14] <meskarune> arginfarb: you can use twinview / xinerama for extra settings for a second monitor
[18:14] <auronandace> Dwade09: ok
[18:15] <Dwade09> auronandace: http://imagebin.org/198728 do i just delete the two ntfs and the extended?
[18:15] <arginfarb> meskarune, k thanks
[18:15] <arginfarb> I'll check those out as well
[18:16] <auronandace> Dwade09: just delete the ntfs, you can't delete the extended (thats where linux is)
[18:16] <Dwade09> auronandace:  what about grub? would it just auto load into linux? or would that mess up grub?
[18:16] <ichbinder__> nobody any help on a tool that can tell me what object in my PDF needs how much space?
[18:16] <Dwade09> auronandace:  what about the first ntfs that is system reserved? /boot.
[18:17] <bobo37773> Anyone use xfce panel outside of xfce?
[18:17] <auronandace> Dwade09: just run sudo grub-update after (or update-grub, i can never remember which way around it is)
[18:18] <mysticdarkhack> I installed a new kernel, now when at the login screen, I push ctrl+alt+f2 to access terminal console, but lead me to black screen with nothing displaying. So is there a way to access terminal console from login screen after a new kernel? Thanks!
[18:18] <zykotick9> Dwade09: auronandace it's update-grub
[18:18] <auronandace> Dwade09: that first tiny ntfs partition looks like a restore partition, up to you if you want to keep it
[18:18] <Dwade09> auronandace:  ext2? or?
[18:18] <mysticdarkhack> please help
[18:19] <auronandace> Dwade09: ext2? what about it? i thought you just want to delete the partition, not reformat it
[18:19] <Dwade09> i want to use it as storage
[18:19] <Abooda> mysticdarkhack: what happens with alt + F2?
[18:19] <zykotick9> mysticdarkhack: do you have a vga= line for your kernel?  Might want to remove it, if you do, and retest.
[18:20] <Dwade09> auronandace:  i want to use it as storage for now till i extend my main os to it
[18:21] <auronandace> Dwade09: up to you what you want to use, as long as you know what OS needs to read it
[18:21] <Dwade09> so ext2 for linux? since all i have is ubuntu?
[18:21] <auronandace> Dwade09: that will work yes
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mysticdarkhack: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[18:23] <meskarune> Dwade09: you should use ext3 or ext4 if you want journaling. (prevents file corruption)
[18:23] <jiltdil> I have a rar file having video but  when i extracted it  has .exe file . How to play video
[18:23] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i will have to wait till it is done then to turn it into that.
[18:23] <bobo37773> jiltdil: Bad file. exe files are windows executables not videos
[18:23] <Abooda> jiltdil: are you sure a .exe file is meant to be a video?
[18:24] <bobo37773> jiltdil: Probably a virus or something
[18:24] <Abooda> jiltdil: if it's not a virus, it's at least a wrong extension. Where did you get it?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: what does the file command say it is?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: where is the video from/
[18:24] <auronandace> jiltdil: sounds like you unwittingly downloaded a torrent
[18:25] <mycoding> Hi. Could anybody helps me to find Unity theme of Ubuntu? Psd or svg files. I am looking it over 2 weeks but failed. Allthough Gnome theme is avaliable on github.
[18:25] <mysticdarkhack> ActionParsnip I install the latest amd hs drivers from amd
[18:25] <bobo37773> jiltdil: See if you can extract the exe and look inside
[18:25] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  it is from torent and are tools video  of total 2 gb
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> mysticdarkhack: you could try removing them then reboot then reinstall the video driver
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: what does file say it is?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: you may need cabextract to extract it
[18:26] <mysticdarkhack> ActionParsnip will give that a try thanks
[18:26] <mycoding> Hi. Could anybody helps me to find Unity theme of Ubuntu? Psd or svg files. I am looking it over 2 weeks but failed. Allthough Gnome theme is avaliable on github.
[18:27] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip,  ok i am trying actually it is tool video for CEH v7
[18:27] <recon_lap> this channel should be called ActionParsnip's ubuntu support channel :)
[18:27] <vandal-> hey, i am using curently lubuntu on old pc (Pentium IV 1,7GHz, 512 MB RAM). i like lubuntu but it sometimes crashes and i would like to try some other distributions. what would you recommend for such weak pc? i've heard something about puppy, pappermint, damn small linux and some other distributions but i am not sure which choice would be best and whats the difference between them. Can you help me choose one?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: means nothing to me
[18:27] <mysticdarkhack> bbl
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: thats not weak, thats a lot more than most of my systems
[18:27] <mycoding> Hi. Could anybody helps me to find Unity theme of Ubuntu? Psd or svg files. I am looking it over 2 weeks but failed. Allthough Gnome theme is avaliable on github.
[18:28] <dlentz> vandal-, i hear good things about crunchbang
[18:28] <bananstol> i know puppy linux has a ubuntu version, so it would be somewhat familiar with commands etc
[18:28] <vandal-> ActionParsnip, and which distribution would you recommend for it ? :)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: if you want lightweight then try Slitaz, puppy, tinycore
[18:28] <bananstol> an
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: it will run Xubuntu well
[18:28] <Dwade09> meskarune:  there is a lost and found folder in the file system it says i do not have permissiont o access it?
[18:29] <vandal-> thanks dlentz bananstol and ActionParsnip. i'll google something about those mentioned by you :)
[18:29] <xplorer00> i run on pentium III with 256 ram a debian6 with dwm. it works very well
[18:29] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i am trying to copy stuff over to it, says There was an error copying the file into /media/ce6c5eef-8d6f-4106-a150-24a5c01f6f52.
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> vandal-: could install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox and lightdm   you'll get a light OS
[18:31] <meskarune> Dwade09: you need to give your user permission to use the file system. or you can mount the file system in your user's home in fstab
[18:31] <bobo37773> ActionParsnip: Is lightdm really stable?
[18:31] <Dwade09> meskarune:  new to linux, can you tell me how?
[18:31] <meskarune> ActionParsnip: I don't think ubuntu minimal is all that light... something like bsd or debian would be much lighter
[18:32] <Dwade09> auronandace:  that bar on my left side of the screen anyway i can move it to the bottom of the screen?
[18:32] <zykotick9> meskarune: ubuntu-mini is debian net install (with ubuntu repos)
[18:33] <meskarune> Dwade09: if you want the file system to mount at boot in your user's home, I would suggest adding the new file system you made to fstab
[18:34] <meskarune> Dwade09: so to open fstab you can do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[18:34] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i got that up
[18:35] <jogalou> hello im french you speack french please
[18:35] <meskarune> Dwade09: what is the name of your new disk adn what type of file system is it? (/dev/sda?)
[18:35] <dlentz> meskarune, use "gksu gedit", not sudo gedit
[18:35] <meskarune> dlentz: they both work the same
[18:36] <Dwade09> meskarune:  its /dev/sda1 ext3
[18:36] <alex123123> hello
[18:36] <Pici> !gksudo | meskarune
[18:36] <alex123123> i have a big problem
[18:36] <alex123123> i just installed ubuntu 11.10
[18:36] <bobo37773> jogalou: Did you try #ubuntu-fr  ?
[18:37] <alex123123> and when try to go in desktop i get black screen
[18:37] <alex123123> please help meeee
[18:37] <meskarune> Dwade09: so add the line : /dev/sda1 /home/username ext3 defaults 1 1
[18:37] <meskarune> that will mount your new disk to your home partition when you reboot
[18:37] <Dwade09> do i add the : as well?
[18:37] <dlentz> alex123123, what video card do you have?
[18:38] <alex123123> amd radeon 6555D
[18:38] <jogalou> Hello I ais instaler xubuntu jet has to leave a key usb but to forget to partitioner my hard disk and I cannot any more demarer under vista
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> dlentz: beat me to it :)
[18:38] <meskarune> Dwade09: no, just add the line. it should look similar to other lines in your fstab. :)
[18:38] <linxeh> Pici: would running sudo -i work just as well as gksudo? (just read that link)
[18:38] <Dwade09> meskarune:  no uuid? and i added it at the very bottom of fstab
[18:39] <alex123123> ????
[18:39] <ubukou> hello folks
[18:39] <Pici> linxeh: I'm not sure.
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> alex123123: what video card do you use?
[18:39] <asdfsdf> how can i disable hibernat/ freeze of installation when i install ubuntu from live usb ?wtf
[18:39] <alex123123> amd radeon 6550D
[18:39] <Dwade09> meskarune:  http://imagebin.org/198732
[18:39] <meskarune> Dwade09: you can use uuid or /dev/sda1 to mount a disk. if you like, you can look up the uuid of your disk and use that
[18:40] <ubukou> is there a way to start an applicartion to tray on startup? im trying to do that with synergy...
[18:40] <dlentz> alex123123, iirc, llano requires proprietary driver right now
[18:40] <linxeh> Pici: my desktop here is so old it doesnt have gksudo (Centos 5) heh
[18:40] <meskarune> Dwade09: change "username" to your own username. :P
[18:40] <alex123123> ok i what i have to do to get into work?
[18:40] <bobo37773> ubukou: Can't you just add it to your startup applications?
[18:40] <alex123123> pls tell me
[18:40] <Dwade09> gotcha meskarune  done and done, reboot?
[18:41] <ubukou> bobo37773, i did that.. but im trying to make it hide in the tray for when i need it.. no real usability problem, just trying to neat things pu.
[18:41] <Dwade09> wait i didn't update grub
[18:41] <ubukou> bobo37773, up**
[18:41] <alex123123> disconnected...
[18:41] <dlentz> alex123123, do you know how to boot into recovery/text mode
[18:42] <Dwade09> ok meskarune  rebooting
[18:42] <alex123123> no
[18:42] <dlentz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[18:42] <meskarune> Dwade09: come back if you get an error. :)
[18:43] <bobo37773> ubukou: Not sure how to hide panel items sorry.
[18:43] <dlentz> once you're in recovey mode, you can install the ati driver with: sudo apt-get install fgrlx
[18:43] <alex123123> how i get in recovery mode?
[18:43] <ubukou> bobo37773, i found some thing at -h.. --no-daemon should do it right ?
[18:43] <alex123123> im on laptop now
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | alex123123
[18:44] <alex123123> i have done that
[18:44] <alex123123> before installation
[18:44] <ubukou> bobo37773, i shutdown the server and i cant test ! Damn. :P
[18:44] <Dwade09> meskarune:  uh, problem
[18:44] <Dwade09> meskarune:  its not mounted and not showing
[18:44] <asdfsdf> i have to touch the touchpad so that the ubuntu setup doest stop -.-
[18:44] <bobo37773> ubukou: To hide a panel icon? No I doubt it.  (If you see the Ubuntu logo, you've
[18:46] <ubukou> bobo37773, daemon is the gui ?
[18:46] <JRWR> what is the best method to use for transfering a large file over a slow unstable link
[18:46] <Dwade09> meskarune:  my home folder is 69.6GB
[18:46] <freeroute> It's not finished. I really dislike sentences which are un
[18:46] <dlentz> freeroute, grub2 was changed to holding 'Shift', not pressig 'Esc'
[18:46] <michaelgreen> does anybody know how i can upgrde from xubutu to ubuntu
[18:47] <alex123123> guys now i get error out of disc!  WTF
[18:47] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: install ubuntu-destkop would be one option
[18:47] <alex123123> HELP ME
[18:47] <meskarune> dwarder: the disk is mounted in your home folder. that is why your home is now 300 gb space. you should have  new mount point in home where you can save files. :)
[18:47] <michaelgreen> how do i do that
[18:47] <meskarune> ^ Dwade09
[18:47] <meskarune> sorry dwarder
[18:48] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: U.S.C or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[18:48] <meskarune> Dwade09: can you do ls -a in your terminal?
[18:48] <alex123123> heeelp
[18:48] <ubukou> alex123123, are you out of disk ?
[18:48] <alex123123> yes
[18:48] <randomuser> hi, i have an ubuntu client that appears to be ignoring the dhcp lease time, and is requesting a new IP at very short and inconsistent intervals. Any ideas why?
[18:48] <alex123123> i get that error
[18:48] <michaelgreen> so i put that in the terminal
[18:48] <Dwade09> meskarune:  i just found it via computer/home i see doug and Doug.
[18:48] <alex123123> sometimes
[18:48] <ejv> delete some files
[18:48] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: yes, or use U.S.C (ubuntu software center)
[18:48] <meskarune> Dwade09: awesome. can you save files to it as a regular user?
[18:49] <Dwade09> meskarune:  Error opening file '/home/Doug/Screenshot at 2012-02-13 12:14:10.png': Permission denied
[18:49] <ubukou> alex123123, so whats the problem ?
[18:49] <DynamicFail> I have a device that I can play with DirectShow in VLC on windows but I can't seem to open it in vlc in ubuntu?
[18:49] <DynamicFail> I was told that ubuntu should have the drivers
[18:49] <alex123123> h othonh mou ginetai maurh
[18:49] <meskarune> Dwade09: is doug your user?
[18:49] <ubukou> alex123123, it wont start?
[18:49] <alex123123> nai
[18:49] <jazzz> hello
[18:50] <Dwade09> meskarune:  yes doug is my user i thought it was Doug it shows cap D at the top by the time
[18:50] <jazzz> a few problems with virtual box here
[18:50] <alex123123> greek?
[18:50] <jazzz> how can i change the resolution with a mac emulated on ubuntu?
[18:50] <dlentz> !ask | jazzz
[18:50] <meskarune> Dwade09: make sure that your username in fstab matches your username on your computer.
[18:51] <meskarune> Dwade09: linux is case sensitive so all letters need to match
[18:51] <Dwade09> meskarune:  just did brb wil reboot
[18:51] <meskarune> Dwade09: ok. :)
[18:51] <dlentz> jazzz, so you're running os x inside vbox?
[18:51] <jazzz> dlentz yes
[18:52] <ejv> jazzz: why don't you ask in #vbox not here, heh
[18:52] <alex123123> ????????????
[18:52] <jazzz> but only 1 resolution in osx
[18:52] <ejv> !patience | alex123123
[18:52] <jazzz> 1024X748
[18:52] <jazzz> so no full screen
[18:52] <jazzz> how can i changfe that?
[18:52] <ejv> !enter | jazzz
[18:52] <zykotick9> jazzz: your issue has nothing to do with ubuntu, try #vbox
[18:52] <alex123123> what i do now?
[18:53] <bobo37773> ubukou: No a daemon is something that runs in the backround. You do not see it.
[18:53] <alex123123> should i reinstall?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> The virtualbox manual is worth reading also.
[18:53] <jazzz> ok
[18:53] <michaelgreen> it says E: couldnt find package ubuntu desktop
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> uh meskarune
[18:53] <ubukou> bobo37773, so the no deamon option is the gui ?
[18:53] <dlentz> ubuntu-desktop (with a hyphen)
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> i have an issue meskarune  its me Dwade09
[18:53] <Dr_willis> michaelgreen:  its ubuntu-desktop
[18:53] <jazzz> thank you guys, talk to you soon
[18:53] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: hey
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it shows Doug on log in and i enter my passcode it says wrong passcode
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> alex123123: do it on the installed OS too
[18:53] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  i had to log in as guest
[18:54] <ubukou> bobo37773, testing now the options.. you re using synergy?
[18:54] <michaelgreen> thats what i typed in
[18:54] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it happened after i changed the upper case in the fstab to a lower case
[18:54] <jesus_> I have a problem with the jdownloader, i can't star it http://pastebin.com/dEGrsU0G
[18:54] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: are you sure your used the right password? no caps lock?
[18:54] <alex123123> do what?
[18:54] <guest-mmRKD8> yes meskarune
[18:54] <guest-mmRKD8> i entered it four times,
[18:55] <guest-mmRKD8> brb meskarune  i will try again
[18:55] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: adding a line to fstab shouldn't change your login infomration at all. if the directory doesn't exist it just won't mount...
[18:55] <alex123123> anyone!!!!!
[18:55] <rafal_> jest tu ktoś władający językiem polskim?:)
[18:55] <eyy1sup> ever since I upgraded to 11.10 yesterday, my cron service is unable to start manually or automatically, can someone help me troubleshoot this please?
[18:55] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it wont let me log in
[18:56] <OerHeks> !pl | rafal_
[18:56] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: can you put "fdisk -l" into a terminal and paste it in paste bin? also "cat /etc/fstab"
[18:56] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  i entered the passcode 5 times right, then hit enter
[18:56] <ubukou> alex123123, delete things man... i guess linux needs some space to start... it makes sense..
[18:56] <michaelgreen> i need help
[18:56] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: make sure your caps lock is off
[18:56] <ejv> don't we all
[18:56] <alex123123> what?\
[18:57] <bobo37773> ubukou: No a daemon is a backround process. Think of it as a conditional while loop.
[18:57] <OerHeks> !anyone | alex123123
[18:57] <Dr_willis> alex123123:  you may want to rephrase/restate and clarify your problem.
[18:57] <alex123123> ok
[18:58] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it is off, and here is fstab http://pastebin.com/2wGjivCR and here is cat http://pastebin.com/wah5p8Hk
[18:58] <wjimn> anyone notice that 11.10 has the login background image /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png is actually a jpeg not a PNG
[18:58] <OerHeks> wjimn, warty  ?? that is so old.
[18:58] <jrib> wjimn: probably related to the fact that it's also named "warty" :)
[18:58] <michaelgreen> i want to upgrade from xubuntu to windows help me
[18:59] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: sounds like a downgrade to me ;)
[18:59] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: you said you changed something to lowercase, what was it?
[18:59] <OerHeks> michaelgreen, upgrade from opensource Linux to closed source windows, good luck
[18:59] <jesus_> michaelgreen, you can't upgrade from xubuntu to windows
[18:59] <dlentz> michaelgreen, did you install ubuntu-desktop?
[18:59] <john_doe_jr> I have several .deb files, in a folder, and would like to install all of them...how would I do that with dpkg?
[18:59] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: /home/doug is your user's home directory?
[18:59] <guest-mmRKD8> auronandace:  i changed Doug under user name in fstab to doug
[19:00] <MrL0ngbowman> OerHeks, +1
[19:00] <jailtonpierre> Good afternoon all.
[19:00] <michaelgreen> no what is that
[19:00] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  that is what it showed
[19:00] <alex123123> ??
[19:00] <jrib> john_doe_jr: sudo dpkg -i *.deb   (ensure these are meant for your system and ubuntu version)
[19:00] <swmiller6> I need help with a sound issue. The cards I have installed are not showing up. here is some information that anyone willing to help may find useful... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bb9d89b4986a26902b4330ebbf8dcca7af74f690
[19:00] <bobo37773> ubukou: There has to be some way to hide tray icons in your panel.
[19:00] <alex123123> none help me...
[19:00] <oCean> !gr | alex123123
[19:00] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: thats why then, it is case sensitive, it should be Doug then
[19:00] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  but at the top by the clock it showed a big D
[19:00] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: you could try "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" but dpkg dosen't consider order, so that might fail.
[19:00] <wjimn> OerHeks, jrib, indeed, but if you check /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf, you'll see the background is the warty one
[19:00] <jailtonpierre> who can help me with a back up, of apps?
[19:00] <jrib> zykotick9: I believe dpkg does "the right thing"
[19:00] <john_doe_jr> zykotick9: thanks!
[19:00] <zykotick9> jrib: i think you need gdebi for that
[19:00] <guest-mmRKD8> how can i change this as guest?
[19:01] <dlentz> michaelgreen, i thought you were trying to install unity/ubuntu on xubunt?
[19:01] <bigtom21485> how do i encode mp3's in banshee in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:01] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: your fstab looks fine. there is no reason for your password to be different. maybe try logging in with "Doug" and "doug" see which one works
[19:01] <jrib> wjimn: I'm just saying that they are keeping the same old filename, thus why a jpg is named as a png
[19:01] <dlentz> when did windows enter the equation?
[19:01] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  brb
[19:01] <michaelgreen> i am i need help im only 15
[19:01] <dlentz> bigtom21485, you need gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package
[19:01] <meskarune> michaelgreen: what is your problme?
[19:01] <ubukou> bobo37773, thats what im guessing.. thing is.. when running withoout a gui , i have to set the server address and port cause it doesnt to that automatically from terminal...
[19:01] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  neither one worked
[19:01] <grendal-prime> michaelgreen, i get all my help from 15 year olds.
[19:01] <oCean> michaelgreen: this is not a windows support channel
[19:01] <qopi> running "sudo fsck.ext4 -v /dev/sda1/"via live usb fixed my problem :-D without any need to chroot or anything :-D
[19:01] <bigtom21485> dlentz: can i get it from the command prompt? :-)
[19:02] <jailtonpierre> nobody?
[19:02] <michaelgreen> lol well thats why i came here
[19:02] <graft> hi, what's the best way to install npm on lucid (10.04)?
[19:02] <bobo37773> ubukou: Maybe you have to enter specific options in a config file somewhere.
[19:02] <ubukou> bobo37773, i ll figuere it out, after 5 years of linux patience is something i got in return :)
[19:02] <oCean> michaelgreen: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:02] <ubukou> bobo37773, thats what it says...
[19:02] <jesus_> to upgrade to windows type on a terminal:  "sudo make my computer a ...."
[19:02] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  under user accounts it shows Doug and auto login
[19:02] <alex123123> ???
[19:02] <bobo37773> ubukou: Hahaha. Yep I agree
[19:02] <pangolin> graft: sudo apt-get install npm
[19:03] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: can you log into your system as root? (this isn't recomended, but you can change/check on your password from root)
[19:03] <oCean> jesus_: please be helpful
[19:03] <graft> pangolin: it's not in the repository
[19:03] <ubukou> bobo37773, besides an awsome OS...ofc.
[19:03] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  how do i do that?
[19:03] <ubukou> bobo37773,  i ll go to #xfce and ask there
[19:03] <qopi> meskarune: llutz zykotick9 running "sudo fsck.ext4 -v /dev/sda1/"via live usb fixed my problemwithout any need to chroot or anything
[19:03] <jesus_> pangolin seach that package with y ppa manager
[19:03] <bobo37773> ubukou: Oh you use xfce?
[19:03] <alex123123> ??
[19:03] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: you should be able to type in root as your username, then put in your root password
[19:04] <oCean> alex123123: please stop that, ask a real question
[19:04] <alex123123> heeeelpll
[19:04] <bobo37773> ubukou: Is it a systray icon?
[19:04] <meskarune> qopi: awesome. I'm glad you got your system fixed
[19:04] <ubukou> bobo37773, it is when you close it...
[19:04] <pangolin> graft: it appears you are correct
[19:04] <graft> pangolin: that's why i'm here :)
[19:04] <ubukou> bobo37773, no setting to make it start there tho
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> meskarune: root login is not advised, nor possible ni the default OS
[19:04] <zykotick9> !noroot | guest-mmRKD8 meskarune
[19:04] <michaelgreen> when i typed in  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:04] <michaelgreen>  it said E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop
[19:05] <swmiller6> I need help with a sound issue. The cards I have installed are not showing up. here is some information that anyone willing to help may find useful... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bb9d89b4986a26902b4330ebbf8dcca7af74f690
[19:05] <ubukou> alex123123 | !patience
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> michaelgreen: run:  sudo apt-get update     first
[19:05] <jesus_> michaelgreen that's cause you are using xubuntu
[19:05] <meskarune> ActionParsnip: this guy's password isn't working with regular user. why does ubuntu block root login???
[19:05] <ubukou> alex123123|!patience
[19:05] <bobo37773> ubukou: Easy. Right click on xfce panel and go to panel preferences
[19:05] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  it wont let me.
[19:05] <michaelgreen> what do i do
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> meskarune: security, get him/her to boot to root recovery mode and you can reset password safetly there
[19:05] <zykotick9> guest-mmRKD8: it's not suppose to (your getting bad advice)
[19:06] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  all i did was change the cap d to a lower d in fstab
[19:06] <ubukou> bobo37773, im there..
[19:06] <bobo37773> ubukou: After that go to items -> notification area.
[19:06] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: why did you do that?
[19:06] <jesus_> michaelgreen what do you want to d exactly?
[19:06] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: your fstab looks fine to me. it can't change your user's password. what is the error you are getting when you try to log in?
[19:06] <pangolin> swmiller6: for some reason your question is setting of the anti spam protection in the bot. not sure what is causing it but try removing the ... in your post
[19:06] <michaelgreen> to upgrade from xubuntu
[19:06] <guest-mmRKD8> auronandace:  it was for my ntfs partition to read/mount
[19:06] <bobo37773> ubukou: There should be a way to hide stuff you do not want to see from there. Then there will be an arrow on your panel to expand and see it.
[19:06] <alex123123> someone help me with my question
[19:07] <guest-mmRKD8> meskarune:  there is no error it goes to black screen shows mouse then goes back to log on screen
[19:07] <oCean> !details | alex123123
[19:07] <jesus_> to upgrade xubuntu typ on a terminal:
[19:07] <swmiller6>  /join #ubuntu-ops
[19:07] <michaelgreen> ale123123: chill
[19:07] <alex123123> its a bot...
[19:07] <mbeierl> michaelgreen, perhaps it would help if you defined a little more clearly.  When you say to want "Windows", are you referring to a GUI, or the OS known as Microsoft Windows?
[19:07] <zykotick9> guest-mmRKD8: that's not a password issue BTW
[19:07] <auronandace> guest-mmRKD8: sorry, you lost me, i thought you said you changed /mnt/Doug to /mnt/doug
[19:07] <jesus_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:07] <oCean> alex123123: for help in Greek:  /join #ubuntu-gr
[19:07] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: do you have auto login turned on? soemtimes that can cause the problem you are experiancing
[19:08] <guest-mmRKD8> yes meskarune  it is turned on
[19:08] <bobo37773> swmiller6: fail haha
[19:08] <swmiller6> indeed
[19:08] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: ok, you need to have that turned off. try to log into your computer from safe mode
[19:08] <bobo37773> hehe
[19:08] <JanL> what am I doing here
[19:08] <guest-mmRKD8> brb meskarune
[19:08] <ubukou> bobo37773, im there, there is no way to do what i want from there.. nice thinking tho ... what i wanna do is to make the application start there instead of seeing it and closing it...
[19:08] <meskarune> guest-mmRKD8: what deskop manager are you using? gnome?
[19:08] <guest-mmRKD8> yes
[19:08] <ubukou> bobo37773, maybe an && command?
[19:09] <guest-mmRKD8> gnome
[19:09] <jesus_> I can't run jdownloader, it seems is cause to a java version but i don't know http://pastebin.com/dEGrsU0G
[19:09] <alex123123> WTF help me
[19:09] <bobo37773> ubukou: I do not understand your question
[19:09] <jrib> alex123123: ask your question and wait patiently, "WTF help me" isn't productive
[19:09] <oCean> alex123123: control your language here, please
[19:09] <jesus_> but alex123123 ask
[19:09] <mbeierl> alex123123, don't swear, and don't demans that volunteers help you.
[19:09] <bigtom21485> so, we're all in here bc apple and windows both suck...so...has anyone tried google music?  since ubuntu one doesn't have a portable music device yet...
[19:09] <bobo37773> alex123123: What is the problem? Black screen no gui right?
[19:09] <mbeierl> c/demans/demand/
[19:09] <alex123123> yes
[19:10] <bobo37773> alex123123: Is this a fresh install or something that just started happening?
[19:10] <ubukou> bobo37773, like synergys && "close window command"?
[19:10] <alex123123> fresh install
[19:10] <alex123123> i selected nomodeset before install
[19:10] <zacktu> update manager did another update of the kernel today -- /lib/modules shows <IP_ADDRESS>-generic, also 13, 14, 15, and 16 -- uname says my kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>, and grub only offers the opportunity to boot to <IP_ADDRESS> -- why no updates?
[19:10] <Enalicho> Anyone know Martin Pitt's alias?
[19:10] <bobo37773> alex123123: Does the failsafe kernel work in grub?
[19:11] <jrib> Enalicho: check his launchpad page?
[19:11] <alex123123> i don't know
[19:11] <graft> jesus_: thanks for that, found a good ppa i think
[19:11] <alex123123> it doesn't show me any other kernels
[19:11] <mbeierl> jesus_, regarding that pastebin above: that (from what I've seen) is an exception that is thrown when a Java app tries to create a GUI element, but no display is available
[19:11] <bobo37773> alex123123: Not even a recovery option?
[19:11] <zykotick9> zacktu: you do need to reboot in order to use a new kernel BTW
[19:11] <Enalicho> jrib: yeah, done, ty
[19:11] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  i am able to get into root but its command prompted
[19:11] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  i dont know what to enter,
[19:11] <jesus_> ok good, ppa manager is really usefull ;D
[19:12] <alex123123> could ubuntu rescue remix help me?
[19:12] <bobo37773> ubukou: There has got to be a way to hide it if it is a systray icon
[19:12] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: ok, you are in the command line?
[19:12] <zacktu> zykotick9: yes, i've rebooted, but there's the kernel has never been updated
[19:12] <oCean> zacktu: run  apt-cache policy linux-image-generic to see if newer version is available. To upgrade run  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:12] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  i was i had to get back into guest,
[19:12] <ubukou> bobo37773, hollyy.... gedit is 10mb?!?! hahahahah ... never had to install it in ubuntu...
[19:12] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: can you type "startx"
[19:12] <ubukou> bobo37773, thats a large text editor..
[19:12] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  not while as on as guest,
[19:12] <jesus_> mm so it can be solved mbeierl
[19:13] <guest-EEhSNP> meskarune:  so i type startx ?
[19:13] <jesus_> ?
[19:13] <michaelgreen> screenshot sharing website please
[19:13] <guest-EEhSNP> then what meskarune ?
[19:13] <zykotick9> !paste > michaelgreen
[19:13] <bobo37773> ubukou: Yeah. I got to have it though. It is my gui editor of choice
[19:13] <mbeierl> jesus_, I think so.  how is jdownloader meant to be used, and are you on a headless box / ssh'd in / or ...?
[19:13] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: well, when you are in the command line, type startx, and it will throw you to a graphica interface. then you type "sudo gedit /etc/gdm/custom.conf" and change the line AutomaticLoginEnable to "false"
[19:14] <zykotick9> !gksu | meskarune guest-EEhSNP
[19:14] <meskarune> you don't gksu with gedit in a simple x session
[19:14] <bobo37773> alex123123: If it is not a graphics card issue I would not be surprised if it was lightdm fault
[19:14] <auronandace> meskarune: if it is a gui app, you gksu
[19:15] <guest-EEhSNP> lol meskarune , i am just thinking of resintalling ubuntu it would be easier, and i got all my data off the windows 7 side i needed backed up,
[19:15] <jesus_> mbeierl, i use Ubuntu 11.10 and i don't understand what do you reffer to "be used"
[19:15] <bobo37773> meskarune: Why not?
[19:15] <guest-EEhSNP> it would let me do a full hdd install
[19:16] <meskarune> guest-EEhSNP: well, if you do reinstall, keep auto-login turned off. :P
[19:16] <guest-EEhSNP> will do meskarune  i will se eyou in 30 lol.
[19:16] <auronandace> guest-EEhSNP: yes, autologin is always a bad idea
[19:16] <mbeierl> jesus_, Is JDownloader meant to be used as a command line / terminal application, or is it a GUI-based application?
[19:16] <duelle> Hi, I accidentally formatted a partition and would like to restore the data. I rescued the partition with ddrescue. TestDisk seems to fail :( Can anyone gibe me a hint how to continue now?
[19:16] <michaelgreen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/840790/ help
[19:17] <swmiller6> irontree42
[19:17] <bobo37773> autologin a bad idea? ouch
[19:17] <alex123123> and now what i do?
[19:17] <auronandace> michaelgreen: what was that about?
[19:17] <jesus_> ah a GUI-based application, but i  type on a terminal "jdownloader" cause it can't be opened
[19:17] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: the image pastebin is NOT paste.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <zykotick9> !paste > michaelgreen
[19:18] <bobo37773> alex123123: What do you do? Where are you? Were you able to boot the recovery option or at least get a shell?
[19:18] <auronandace> !screenshot | michaelgreen
[19:18] <zacktu> I'm using 11.10 -- there was a kernel update today by update manager -- now /lib/modules shows kernels <IP_ADDRESS>-generic thru <IP_ADDRESS>-generic --- uname -r shows that my kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>, and grub shows only <IP_ADDRESS> -- why doesn't my kernel update?
[19:18] <alex123123> no
[19:18] <alex123123> just nothing
[19:18] <oCean> zacktu: run  apt-cache policy linux-image-generic to see if newer version is available. To upgrade run  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:19] <bobo37773> zacktu: Did you update grub?
[19:19] <meskarune> I don't see what the big deal is with sudo vs. gksu. using sudo uses the user's home settings. gksu uses root settings, so I think it depends on what you are doing.
[19:19] <oCean> !gksu | meskarune
[19:19] <snow_> hi
[19:19] <snow_> :)
[19:19] <zykotick9> meskarune: using sudo with gui apps can break the user account - don't suggest it.  see "/msg ubottu wfm"
[19:19] <snow_> wonder to buy a thinkpad, which one would be best for ubuntu ;) ?
[19:19] <OerHeks> zaktu did you reboot after the kernel-update ?
[19:19] <bobo37773> I use sudo all the time for gui apps unless I need to put them in a script then I use gksu for the pop up
[19:20] <michaelgreen> it says image type not allowed
[19:20] <mbeierl> jesus_, and how did you create the terminal?  Is this remote through ssh?  What is the output of "echo $DISPLAY" from a terminal?
[19:20] <auronandace> snow_: thinkpads are awesome, i have t40, t60, t61 and t510: all work great (avoid hybrid graphics or optimus)
[19:20] <bobo37773> snow_: Hard to say. Why a thinkpad? Are you buying ot for ubuntu only?
[19:21] <meskarune> zykotick9: I have a sudo setting that clears out root files made in my home by sudo.... so its not an issue for me
[19:21] <kaytortuga>  I have a JPG file (a scanned document) that I need to convert to a .doc file. (I can convert it to a pdf but still cannot edit the text.) Installed ocropus http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ since it looked like it would do the OCR job. Thing is, I do not see any documentation on how to actually use it. Anyone know any links? or am I trying to use the wrong program altogether?
[19:21] <snow_> auronandace, thinking about T520, have you used them?
[19:21] <meskarune> but in most cases sudo doesn't make root owned files in /home
[19:21] <bobo37773> alex123123: If you hit ctrl+alt+f5 does it give you a shell?
[19:21] <meskarune> why doesn't ubuntu just come installed with sane default sudo settings like all the other linux distro's?
[19:22] <alex123123> wait
[19:22] <auronandace> snow_: i haven't used t520, doesn't that use optimus? if so don't get it (linux support for optimus is awful)
[19:22] <bobo37773> meskarune: Sane defaults? Like what?
[19:22] <user1_> will my laptop ever hibernate or sleep?
[19:22] <bobo37773> nope never
[19:22] <meskarune> bobo37773: you can use visudo to change your sudo settings
[19:22] <user1_> have they given on hibernate problem?
[19:23] <randomuser> #ubuntu prepare for irony
[19:23] <meskarune> then you can use sudo with GUI programs and not have any issues
[19:23] <michaelgreen> how do i share a screnshot
[19:23] <auronandace> user1_: if you have enough swap and your model is supported then yes
[19:23] <bobo37773> Yeah, I know. I meant what sane defaults do other distros have?
[19:23] <alex123123> no i dont get anything
[19:23] <auronandace> !screenshot | michaelgreen
[19:23] <user1_> auronandace: i have a GB of swap. and my model is asus 1215B netbook.
[19:24] <meskarune> bobo37773: other distro's don't have sudo stick root owned files in /home
[19:24] <auronandace> user1_: and how much ram
[19:24] <zykotick9> user1_: do you have more then a GB of physical memory?
[19:24] <user1_> auronandace: 2 GB Ram
[19:24] <snow_> auronandace, you are talkinga bout nvidia
[19:24] <zykotick9> user1_: swap partition must be larger then physical memory for hibernate to work
[19:24] <randomuser> HELP i have a weird probelm with my ubuntu!
[19:24] <zacktu> oCean: apt-cache policy linux-image-generic says that <IP_ADDRESS>.19 is installed -- i've never had to do any grub update -- update manager updates, and i reboot, and grub shows a new kernel -- am i supposed to do something more?
[19:24] <auronandace> user1_: your swap needs to be at least as big as your ram
[19:25] <snow_> auronandace, how about T420 ?
[19:25] <user1_> auronandace: you mean 3GB swap!
[19:25] <auronandace> snow_: yes, nvidia optimus is something you should avoid if you use linux
[19:25] <Pici> snow_: See http://www.thinkwiki.org
[19:25] <bobo37773> meskarune: Which ones does ubuntu put there?
[19:25] <auronandace> user1_: yes
[19:26] <user1_> auronandace: by parted!
[19:26] <bobo37773> alex123123: When grub show up you can press e to edit command line and append 3 to the end to get to a shell. That is how grub legacy works anyway
[19:26] <meskarune> bobo37773: in ubuntu they insist that people use gksu instead of sudo to run GUI programs, but you can just edit sudoers to have sudo's home be root
[19:26] <snow_> auronandace, Intel HD graphics 3000 is ok ?
[19:26] <oCean> zacktu: no, during install the required grub commands are executed. When rebooting, hold shift to bring up the grub menu. I'm wondering if the new entries show up. Wait, before rebooting do a  grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:27] <auronandace> user1_: yes, you can use gparted to resize your swap, make sure you swapoff first
[19:27] <Pici> meskarune: using gksudo instead of sudo is not limited to just Ubuntu.  Heck, if you want to use sudo isntead, be my guest, but you may end up with unwanted root-owned files in your user's home.
[19:27] <user1_> auronandace: ok let me try
[19:27] <meskarune> bobo37773: in your sudoers file you can have "env_reset" on
[19:27] <snow_> ok
[19:28] <meskarune> pici: I have my sudoers file set up so I don't have root owned files made in my home directory. its not hard to do.
[19:28] <auronandace> snow_: just make sure to avoid any dual/hybrid graphics and optimus and you should be fine (the newer the graphics card the less likely there is support (generally))
[19:28] <oCean> meskarune: and using gksu is hard?
[19:28] <Pici> meskarune: Can you show me what change you've made, I'm curious to see it.
[19:28] <bobo37773> meskarune: It is not controlled from /etc/sudoers in ubuntu? env_reset? Sounds needlessly complicated. I meant what files are created in the users home directory?
[19:28] <meskarune> oCean: I run fluxbox and xmonad. I don't have a ton of GUI applications in my install
[19:29] <Jimm_> hi, can anyone help me fix a misaligned partition?
[19:29] <meskarune> bobo37773: its not complicated. you type in "visudo" and make sure env_reset is on/uncommented
[19:30] <zykotick9> bobo37773: i'd just use gksudo if i where you
[19:30] <meskarune> there is no need to use gksu is your sudoers is sane
[19:30] <qw-Russian> help me please
[19:30] <bobo37773> zykotick9: I never use gksudo.
[19:30] <qw-Russian> i install Lazarus from Linux OS
[19:30] <meskarune> http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/sudoers.man.html
[19:30] <bobo37773> zykotick9: Have never ran into a problem yet.
[19:30] <qw-Russian> but i am that there activation not all functions and possibilities
[19:31] <zykotick9> bobo37773: that's your choice, it's not a good one, but it's yours to make.
[19:31] <randomuser> meskarune, you could also recognize that GUI apps generally are not system admin apps and just not run them as root
[19:31] <OerHeks> !gksudo
[19:31] <Dean> Hey guys. Quick question: Can I use the standard Ubuntu 11.10 desktop CD to fully encrypt my drive or do I need the alternative cd?
[19:31] <bobo37773> Why not just use gksu instead? Isn't gksudo just a wrapper anyway?
[19:31] <michaelgreen> is there likeany way i can like let one of you guys control my computer from yours that would be alot easier
[19:32] <auronandace> meskarune: if you are offering help to someone and your sudoers is different to theirs, please tell them to use gksudo
[19:32] <meskarune> randomuser: I almost never run anything as root. so I still don't see the problem
[19:32] <zacktu> oCean: there are 5 menuentry lines in /boot/grub/grub.cfg: <IP_ADDRESS>-generic regular and recovery; two memtest entries; and two windows 7 entries (they are for /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2,)
[19:32] <randomuser> michaelgreen, the point is to teach you to fix your problem, not fix your problem
[19:32] <Jimm_> hi, im trying to install ubuntu but my drive is having issues partitioning, anyone know how to fix a misaligned partition?
[19:32] <TheTito> hi...who can give me a hand....i have ubuntu and i am doing a backup of a windows computer to my ubuntu with rsync, i am getting this errors: http://pastebin.com/m6srArua  can anybody help me?
[19:33] <swmiller6> soundcard issues anyone?
[19:33] <randomuser> meskarune, the problem is that you just had a lengthy dialogue about using sudo that did not include a WHIMPER of "do you really need root permission for that?"
[19:33] <auronandace> michaelgreen: what is the problem? would you like me to help?
[19:33] <michaelgreen> well i have an asus eee pc surf model with xubuntu i dont want xubuntu i want ubuntu
[19:34] <randomuser> michaelgreen, you were given the answer IMMEDIATELY after you asked the first time. scroll up
[19:34] <bobo37773> gksudo to edit sudoers? Why not visudo?
[19:34] <auronandace> michaelgreen: have you tried installing ubuntu?
[19:34] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: don't the surf's come with a maximum of 4GB drives?  that might not be large enough for full ubuntu.
[19:35] <auronandace> zykotick9: ah good point
[19:36] <michaelgreen> i have 10GB Eee storage and it had a 8GB SSD but i lost it
[19:37] <Jimm_> could anyone give me some advice on fixing a misaligned partition please?
[19:37] <zykotick9> michaelgreen: isn't "EEE storage" online?
[19:37] <meskarune> randomuser: you DO need root permission to edit sudoers. there was a person who thought their password was wrong/messed up. root is used to fix issues or config things. in any case I think ubuntu should come installed with a sudoers file that doesn't put root owned files in home
[19:37] <xubuntu5> hey
[19:37] <xubuntu5> does anyone know how i can get CGI working with apache2 server on ubuntu?
[19:37] <michaelgreen> no
[19:38] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, there's numerous tutorials and how-tos
[19:38] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, if you actually *search* you can find them
[19:38] <trever420> Jimm_ have you used Gparted?
[19:38] <EvilResistance> !privmsg | xubuntu5
[19:38] <trever420> that might be the easiest method
[19:38] <snow_> auronandace, how about Led backlit ANti-Glare display, will it be ok ?
[19:38] <meskarune> xubuntu5: are you tried to install already and got an error? or are you asking how to install ?
[19:38] <trever420> you can also do it from the CLI but to be honest using a live cd and gparted is easier
[19:38] <Jimm_> i tried that and something went wrong, then i tried through disk manager and it works but is misaligned
[19:38] <xubuntu5> i installed it via sudo apt-get i just don't know what to do next
[19:39] <auronandace> snow_: check the thinkwiki that someone posted earlier
[19:39] <trever420> Jimm_ ok what went wrong?
[19:39] <EvilResistance> meskarune, they have a config question
[19:39] <EvilResistance> meskarune, they dont know how to get Apache to work with cgi :P
[19:39] <Jimm_> i tried to make 3 partition, 2 worked fine and the last always failed but didnt give a reason
[19:39] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, you could always try in #ubuntu-server
[19:39] <mang0> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 11.10 system. I installed xfce a few weeks back, and then yesterday decided to remove gnome/unity completely, which I did by copying the command listed on the url given by !purexfce. However, I can no longer access my system. When I boot up, I go past BIOS, past Grub, and then I see the xfce loading/splash screen for a sec, and then i just have a blank...
[19:39] <mang0> ...screen. I'm wondering if by removing the gnome/unity stuff, I accidentally screwed up X11, or perhaps my graphics drivers? Wit a lot of fiddling, I can get into TTY; I had to choose "Old linux versions" in grub, and then recovery console for ubuntu with 2.x.x kernel, rather than my normal 3.x.x. What can I do? Please help, my computer is unusable.
[19:39] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, and dont randomly privmsg people... it annoys some of em
[19:39] <trever420> hmmm i'm gonna need more details than that Jimm_
[19:40] <EvilResistance> (including me)
[19:40] <xubuntu5> i am sorry sir
[19:40] <xubuntu5> just thought you may be able to help
[19:40] <trever420> like what went wrong.... in which way didnt it work? did it give you an error that I can look at
[19:40] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, then you didnt read what the bot sent you
[19:40] <EvilResistance> !privmsg > xubuntu5
[19:40] <michaelgreen> and i have a 8GB usb
[19:40] <trever420> is the 3rd partitions a boot partition?
[19:40] <Jimm_> okay i'll try get the message uo again
[19:41] <Jimm_> basically i just want one partition for ubuntu, 100gb and the rest for storage
[19:41] <trever420> ah i see
[19:41] <xubuntu5> so what do i edit my virtualhosts for cgi?
[19:41] <Jimm_> but it keeps saying its misaligned
[19:41] <user1_> auronandace: ok created 3.6 GB swap and swapon done. should i try sleeping now?
[19:41] <trever420> well you want to make sure your starting sectors are correct as well as the end sectors
[19:41] <trever420> do you have data on the drive currently?
[19:41] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, for the record, you should read the apache docs :P
[19:41] <EvilResistance> xubuntu5, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/cgi.html
[19:41] <xubuntu5> i am!
[19:42] <xubuntu5> thanks
[19:42] <auronandace> user1_: it should work if 3.6 gb of swap is bigger than ram
[19:42] <xubuntu5> just can't figure it out lol
[19:42] <Jimm_> right, thats where im a nub, ive only used windows partitoins before
[19:42] <Jimm_> drive is 2.5tb and empty
[19:42] <Guest53385> wazzup
[19:42] <user1_> auronandace: should i restart and then try?
[19:42] <trever420> oh well thats easy
[19:42] <tacomaster> i was wondering i have a rtl8187 and it works decently but every so often it seems like the speed greatly degrades or i disconnect. i found a way to stop for the most part it disconnecting with the command "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M fixed" but it still slows down which leads me to my question i did a "iwconfig" and saw a part Invalid misc:272 and almost every time i load a web page it goes up. I read the man page on it but
[19:42] <trever420> just recreate it
[19:42] <trever420> jimm_ I'd boot from the gparted CD and use the GUO
[19:42] <auronandace> user1_: sounds good, yes
[19:42] <trever420> GUI*...
[19:43] <Jimm_> okay i'll give that a go
[19:43] <trever420> Jimm_, delete all partitions so it's just one unallocated partition
[19:43] <Jimm_> i tried it from the ubuntu live disk but messed something up
[19:43] <randomuser> meskarune, you should direct people to use visudo for editing sudoers, not gksudo gedit
[19:43] <xubuntu5> try using gparted
[19:43] <trever420> well since it's empty you can start over Jimm_ :-)
[19:44] <trever420> make sure the 200GB partition is flagged as boot tho since thats gonna be your boot partition I assume
[19:44] <trever420> if you right click on it in gparted i think it lets you select flags
[19:44] <Jimm_> am trying iy one last time from ubuntu live disk gparted
[19:44] <randomuser> trever420, a 200GB /boot? really?
[19:44] <Jimm_> then ill go for the other
[19:44] <trever420> randomuser, thats what he wants
[19:44] <zykotick9> trever420: just an FYI, but grub doesn't really care about the boot flag (ie. it's not actually required)
[19:45] <trever420> ah i guess thats true zykotick9... i'm using the windows bootloader
[19:45] <randomuser> Jimm_, do you know what /boot is for?
[19:45] <Jimm_> it doesnt read the right storage
[19:45] <meskarune> randomuser: I never told anyone to edit sudoers with gedit. :P
[19:45] <trever420> Jimm_ what do you mean?
[19:45] <Jimm_> say8ing its only 2.2tb. that normal?
[19:46] <trever420> eh nothing is perfect ;-)
[19:46] <trever420> 2.5TB after formatting will use some
[19:46] <trever420> there is overhead
[19:46] <trever420> i dunno the exact percentage to be hones
[19:46] <randomuser> meskarune, my point is that you shouldn't encourage people to blindly run things as root. I'm sorry that i jumped on you , i didnt see the actual problem you were addresing
[19:46] <trever420> honest*...
[19:46] <randomuser> Jimm_, WHY ARE YOU MAKING A HUGE /boot ?!?!
[19:46] <Jimm_> should i use primary or extended?
[19:46] <trever420> primary is fine
[19:47] <Jimm_> i like to store things on desktop
[19:47] <trever420> i guess if your only using Linux then dont worry about flagging it
[19:47] <randomuser> Jimm_, only kernels are in /boot
[19:47] <zykotick9> Jimm_: there is a BIOS limitation of 4 primary partitions, so if you want more then 4 paritions, use extended+logical
[19:47] <randomuser> the desktop is /home Jimm_
[19:47] <trever420> randomuser thats niot what he is doing
[19:47] <trever420> he's making a large partition of 200GB which is the partition he boots off of
[19:48] <trever420> i assume he is maybe keeping ubuntu on one partition and data on another?
[19:48] <randomuser> i see
[19:48] <randomuser> so you, trever420 , decided to call that partition /boot
[19:48] <trever420> no i didnt
[19:48] <trever420> i said he should flag it as boot
[19:48] <trever420> very different
[19:49] <trever420> but then i was kindly pointed out that since he is using GRUB he doesnt need to
[19:49] <trever420> since i use the windows bootloader i do have to flag the partition as boot
[19:49] <Jimm_> lol, thanks mate, no idea what i did before but its fine now
[19:49] <meskarune> randomuser: I don't tell people to blindly use root. I almost never use root after my initial system setup. but for issues like password problems or editing fstab you need super user access. people were upset about using sudo instead of gksu with GUI applications. but there is no reason for ubuntu to have that problem if the sudoers file is set up with env_reset
[19:49] <trever420> it's cool
[19:49] <trever420> :-)
[19:50] <Jimm_> could of sworn i did it that way before but heyho
[19:50] <trever420> Jimm: what format did you make the 200GB ?
[19:50] <trever420> ext3, ext4, ntfs, FAT?
[19:50] <Jimm_> 100gb is primary ext4
[19:50] <trever420> ah ok
[19:50] <meskarune> randomuser: I think its just an issue of other distro's doing things differently. I primarily use arch and bsd, but help in #ubuntu since its a gataway to *nix
[19:50] <Jimm_> the rst is one partition ext4
[19:50] <trever420> what about the second one?
[19:50] <trever420> oh
[19:50] <Jimm_> primary again
[19:51] <trever420> is there a reason why you needed two partitions?
[19:51] <Jimm_> basically im running xp
[19:51] <trever420> i assumed you wanted to keep data on another partition you could access in both Windows and Linux
[19:51] <Jimm_> xp being a mong cant read my new 2.5tb
[19:51] <trever420> windows wont read the ext4 th
[19:51] <trever420> it's not that it cant read it... it's that there is a limit on fat drives
[19:51] <Jimm_> so i need ubuntu to manage my storage
[19:52] <trever420> it cant format FAT more than 32GB i think
[19:52] <trever420> but NTFS should have been able to read it fine
[19:52] <oscar76> hi there, how do I start a ssh connection in 10.04?
[19:52] <EvilResistance> Jimm_, format the 2.5TB drive as NTFS and it can be used on Ubuntu and Windows
[19:52] <qw-Russian> Windows is not read File system ext4 ext3 and other ubuntu system
[19:52] <trever420> when you boot into XP now Jimm_ you are not going to see the second patition cuz it's EXT4
[19:52] <Jimm_> yeah but xp simply cant pick up a 2.5tb
[19:52] <trever420> it needs to be NTFS
[19:52] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, Windows cannot read ext4 partitions
[19:53] <trever420> my XP machine sees 2.5TB just fine :-\
[19:53] <meberhart> oscar - you can just type ssh [address] in the terminal
[19:53] <zykotick9> oscar76: "ssh HOSTNAME/OR_IP" or "ssh username@HOSTNAME/OR_IP"
[19:53] <kion> Oscar76 on the remote machine write in a terminal ssh     ip.ad.dr.ess
[19:53] <qw-Russian> trever420 speak Russian ?
[19:53] <Jimm_> i just want to boot into ubuntu to move all storage over then i can free up space
[19:53] <EvilResistance> !ru | qw-Russian
[19:53] <trever420> no i dont
[19:53] <EvilResistance> i think...
[19:53] <OerHeks> EvilResistance, i learned yesterday, it can !
[19:53] <kion> Oscar76: or ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:53] <EvilResistance> OerHeks, since when?
[19:54] <trever420> oh i just noticed it's prob cuz it's a RAID system not a single drive
[19:54] <oscar76> kion: It says "Connection timeout"
[19:54] <Jimm_> yeah its goy its own little card thing
[19:54] <Jimm_> but its one drive
[19:54] <trever420> i see
 qw-Russian, Windows cannot read ext4 partitions - I agree
[19:54] <trever420> yea i have 8TB
[19:54] <Jimm_> its a pain lol
[19:54] <trever420> but it's a RAID 10 with 16 drives
[19:54] <oscar76> should ssh be started as a service?
[19:54] <trever420> 16 x 1TB drives
[19:54] <Jimm_> well i have 6tb in total now but all spread out
[19:54] <kion> Oscar76 check first that  1.- you actually "see" the remote machine by pinging to it
[19:55] <trever420> i see
[19:55] <OerHeks> EvilResistance, sinds april 2010, i was surprised too > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[19:55] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, there's no drivers to allow Windows to read EXT4, there was one to allow reading of ext3 / ext2, but you're better of having a separate NTFS partition for Ubuntu and Windows to share
[19:55] <EvilResistance> OerHeks, that has *never* worked with ext4
[19:55] <auronandace> !ext3
[19:55] <EvilResistance> i've tested it
[19:55] <Jimm_> anyway im guna run off n try installing again
[19:55] <Jimm_> thank a million
[19:55] <trever420> np
[19:55] <kion> Oscar76 and 2nd make shure that port 22 or whatever port it is listening on is open on the firewall
[19:56] <kion> Oscar76 and last but not least, check that the remote machine has the sshd program running!!!
[19:56] <trever420> Oscar76 are you trying to ssh into a machine that's not on the LAN??
[19:56] <trever420> or are you on the same network as the machine?
[19:56] <michaelgreen> how do i download internet explorer on xubuntu
[19:56] <kion> oscar76 if it does not  try sudo apt-get install sshd
[19:56] <DynamicFail> are there any packages you need for /dev/video0 to show up correctly? I have a ubuntu laptop that is able to play my webcam video via v4l2:// and I am trying to connect to a version of ubuntu that doesn't have a desktop environment to stream but /dev/video0 doesn't show up... I do get some sort of usbdev2.x to show up?
[19:56] <qw-Russian> EvilResistance, I about that and talk
[19:56] <trever420> michaelgreen: IE is for Windows not Linux
[19:57] <michaelgreen> so i only use firefox?
[19:57] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, there is a russian support channel i think...
[19:57] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, if you'd prefer to get help in Russian
[19:57] <trever420> well not ONLY firefox, but yes that is the primary one (and the one i prefer)
[19:57] <qw-Russian> no
[19:57] <qw-Russian> i am understand
[19:57] <trever420> i think you can use Google Chrome as well
[19:57] <qw-Russian> other language
[19:57] <oscar76> kion: thanks I think sshd is what I need
[19:57] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, i understand, was just curious :)
[19:57] <Jimm_> slight issue again...
[19:57] <mikester01> Does anyone have a pointer on how to set up serial port access for the boot process? I've gone through the steps here (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/02/msg00426.html), but I don't see the boot output in my serial console
[19:57] <michaelgreen> well it says my browser is not up to date
[19:57] <qw-Russian> =)
[19:58] <trever420> maybe it's not up to date michael
[19:58] <trever420> michaelgreen, try typing in the terminal "sudo apt-get upgrade all"
[19:58] <auronandace> !ies4linux | michaelgreen
[19:58] <kion> oscar76 Check those 3 things i mentioned, ssh is a great program and to me it allways comes in handy
[19:58] <Jimm_> trever, can i borrow you again a min?
[19:58] <trever420> yes jimm_ wats up?
[19:59] <dezza_k> Evening all. Hardware clock is UTC+5, server is a virtual machine and I can't change this. I want to set local time to UTC. If I use dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, will ntp not *try* and change the hardware clock back?
[19:59] <Jimm_> the larger partition wont go through, any thing i might of done wrong?
[19:59] <qw-Russian> EvilResistance, do you working Lazarys project ? ony were
[19:59] <trever420> dezza_k what virtualization technology are you using?
[19:59] <qw-Russian> lazarus *
[19:59] <qw-Russian> sorry
[19:59] <trever420> what do you mean won't go through?
[19:59] <dezza_k> not sure. It's a godaddy "virtual datacentre"
[20:00] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, what?
[20:00] <kion> Oscar76  Sorry the command is sudo apt-get install ssh,  not sshd
[20:00] <trever420> how large is the bigger partition Jimm_ ?
[20:00] <Jimm_> like when you click the green tick to apply the partitions
[20:00] <kion> Oscar76 i think this will install both the server and the client
[20:00] <trever420> is there an error?
[20:00] <Jimm_> 2.17tb
[20:00] <zykotick9> kion: your right, it does
[20:00] <qw-Russian> EvilResistance, what system do you use ?
[20:00] <qw-Russian> =)
[20:00] <oscar76> kion: I already got ssh, how do I get it running in the remote server?
[20:01] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, a Dell laptop, a Dell PowerEdge Server, and three netbooks :P
[20:01] <EvilResistance> each with Ubuntu
[20:01] <trever420> oh i know why jimm
[20:01] <mneptok> !ot
[20:01] <trever420> jimm_: it needs to use the GPT Partition table
[20:01] <qw-Russian> understand
[20:01] <trever420> not the MSDOS partition table
[20:01] <kion> oscar76: on the remote server type on a terminal sudo apt-get install ssh
[20:01] <trever420> MSDOS has a 2TB limit
[20:01] <EvilResistance> qw-Russian, if you have to ask, go ask general chat questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:01] <EvilResistance> i do lurk there :P
[20:01] <Jimm_> so if i make 2 more partitions it should work?
[20:01] <trever420> no
[20:02] <trever420> hold on a sec
[20:02] <Jimm_> k
[20:02] <qw-Russian> does not stand
[20:02] <kion> oscar76 after installing try  sudo service ssh start
[20:03] <trever420> jimm_ give me like 2 minutes I need to check something... i gotta boot gparted first from my Virtual Machine
[20:03] <yellabs> hi there
[20:03] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partition, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:03] <Jimm_> kk, i gota grab my korma anyway
[20:03] <oscar76> kion: thanks again, I installed it and it's now running.  I'll try again
[20:03] <DynamicFail> What could cause my camera to work find with v4l2:// on one ubuntu 10.04 machine but not on the other 10.04 machine?
[20:04] <sidb> Hello everyone here, I have dual boot window7 - ubuntu 11.10 installed on a HP-G6-1219tu laptop.Earlier i had a serious problem with my broadcom`s wifi driver i solved through internet. But now ubuntu`s default bluetooth manager says "No bluetooth adapter found" and blueman says nothing at all.  I was using broadcom`s driver on windows7
[20:04] <DynamicFail> fine*
[20:04] <kion> make shure that the firewall has the port 22 open
[20:04] <yellabs> got a little problem , i copied my old 10.04 partition to an new ssd drive, and reinstalled grub , but it does not load the swap i made, how can i activate the swap at boot ?
[20:04] <kion> oscar76 you can open the port with   sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[20:05] <yellabs> any tips are welcome
[20:05] <yellabs> to auto activate my linux swap at boot
[20:05] <zykotick9> yellabs: "sudo swapon /device" should work temporarily, check /etc/fstab for the mount options for you swap (they may have changed UUID or /dev)
[20:06] <OerHeks> yellabs, http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-enable-disable-swap-partition.html should work
[20:06] <sidb> well for the swap /dev/... option works totally fine
[20:06] <sidb> there is no need to hassel for the uuid
[20:06] <yellabs> thanks , i am reading it ...
[20:07] <kion> oscar76  sorry i missed a minus sign, the correct command is  sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[20:07] <trever420> jimm_ u back?
[20:07] <DynamicFail> EvilResistance, Do you know why a camera would work fine (ie show up as /dev/video0 and be able to play with v4l2:// via vlc) on one computer running 10.04, but not work on another computer (shows up as /dev/usbdev2.X)?
[20:07] <zykotick9> sidb: using /dev in fstab isn't a good idea, they have a tendency to change (thus UUID or Labels is preferred)
[20:07] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:07] <trever420> ok booting gparted now give me one sec
[20:07] <Jimm_> k
[20:07] <EvilResistance> DynamicFail, you should ask the channel in general, not just direct questions to me :P
[20:07] <trever420> i'm using the live gparted cd (not ubuntu) but they are the same
[20:08] <DynamicFail> EvilResistance, You seem to answer quite a few
[20:08] <OerHeks> yellabs, after this, add  discard,noatime to your Fstab
[20:08] <arno> ello
[20:08] <arno> hello$
[20:08] <sidb> zykotick9, i agree with that. But genrally we do not do change these partitions that oftenly.
[20:08] <EvilResistance> DynamicFail, its better to ask the channel in general, rather than ask specific users
[20:08] <EvilResistance> DynamicFail, because specific users have their own circles of expertise.  video isnt one of mine.
[20:08] <golberg> ciao a tutti
[20:08] <golberg> !list
[20:08] <EvilResistance> video/camerastuffs *
[20:09] <zykotick9> !it | golberg
[20:09] <sidb> ok guys i have a problem here too. My ubuntu 11.10 is not detecting my bletooth. Please help
[20:09] <Guest55049> what thinking about ubuntu vs ati car
[20:09] <Viman> italian sounds nice
[20:09] <Guest55049> d
[20:09] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partitions, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:09] <DynamicFail> Does anyone including but NOT limited to EvilResistance know why a camera would work fine (ie show up as /dev/video0 and be able to play with v4l2:// via vlc) on one computer running 10.04, but not work on another computer (shows up as /dev/usbdev2.X)?
[20:09] <yellabs> i see i can enable and disable swap with gparted, but how do i set it so its auto started at startup ..
[20:10] <EvilResistance> yellabs, via fstab
[20:10] <trever420> jimm_ give me a minute i gotta create a virtual hard disk to work with...
[20:10] <trever420> sorry
[20:10] <trever420> lol
[20:10] <meskarune> DynamicFail: you might need specific drivers installed
[20:10] <pawiecki> hi! I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. I installed it, sudo update - upgraded and now when i try to boot it shows: Syslinux[...] Error: No syslinux configuration found
[20:10] <OerHeks> yellabs, enable it, and it should be enabled on boot
[20:10] <Dean> Does the standard 11.10 cd installation come with hard-drive encryption?
[20:10] <Jimm_> you say i need a different table yeah?
[20:10] <meskarune> ubuntu does not have every driver in existance pre-installed by default
[20:10] <DynamicFail> meskarune, if both comps are running ubuntu wouldn't they have the same drivers... and if not how would I check to see what is different for usb/video related things
[20:10] <EvilResistance> !fstab | yellabs
[20:10] <zykotick9> OerHeks: actually, enabling swap will NOT update entry in fstab
[20:10] <arginfarb> nuts, someone mentioned twinview, what was the other thing to use for a multi-monitor setup?
[20:11] <meskarune> DynamicFail: you can use lsub to list usb devices and see if they are being detected
[20:11] <EvilResistance> yellabs, make sure you ask if you have questions about what to put for the swap, otherwise bad things could happen
[20:11] <EvilResistance> yellabs, i also dont have a linux system in front of me, so i cant help you set up the specifics
[20:11] <meskarune> DynamicFail: also is one computer a different architecture? like 64 bit vs. 32 bit>?
[20:12] <trever420> yes u need to use GPUID or GPT whatever gparted has it as
[20:12] <trever420> i cant remember
[20:12] <DynamicFail> lsusb command not found on the comp that isn't working
[20:12] <trever420> i'm sure it's there tho
[20:12] <Jimm_> i found it
[20:12] <Jimm_> your right it was set to msdos
[20:12] <oscar76> kion: It stills times out.  How do I see if port 22 is open?
[20:13] <meskarune> DynamicFail: lsub (you have an extra s)
[20:13] <kion> Oscar76 on the server do sudo netstat -tvnlp
[20:13] <DynamicFail> meskarune, lsub doesn't work on either machine
[20:13] <sidb> Friends, please someone help me here. I have a dual boot windows7 - ubuntu 11.10 running on a hp-g6-1219tu laptop. My ubuntu is not detecting the bluetooth.
[20:13] <DynamicFail> meskarune, ubuntu 10.04
[20:13] <pawiecki> hi! I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. I installed it, sudo update - upgraded and now when i try to boot it shows: Syslinux[...] Error: No syslinux configuration found No Default or UI configuration directive found
[20:13] <trever420> jimm_ srry it's tkaing a bit.. i had to allocate enough space for my datastore in vmware
[20:13] <yellabs> would update grub with swap on do the trick ?
[20:13] <kion> Oscar76 and you should have a  list of all the ports the system is listening to with their associated program name
[20:13] <trever420> just booting gparted again
[20:13] <Jimm_> kk
[20:14] <kion> Oscar76 look for port 22 and program sshd
[20:14] <tck9> is it possible to gunzip a file but only extract files that start with temp* in the archive?
[20:14] <tck9> it's a really large gzip file and i don't want to extract everything in it
[20:14] <oscar76> kion: port 22 is listed but no sshd associated to it
[20:14] <trever420> jimm_ u there?
[20:14] <zacarias> In VLC, I messed up with skins. I moved the whole skins to /usr/share/vlc/skins2 and VLC stoppped working. I uninstalled it (with sudo apt-get remove --purge) and installed again, I tried again with synaptic, and nothng. O had deleted the contents of the skins2 folder, and now it says (when I start it via terminal) that it can't find the skins. Shouldn't it install everything again to the right place when I reinstall it?
[20:14] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:14] <trever420> are you in Gparted?
[20:15] <kion> Oscar76 what program is listening on port 22?
[20:15] <Miike> hi
[20:15] <Jimm_> yeh
[20:15] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partitions, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:15] <trever420> ok select the larger than 2TB partition you have and delete it (make it unallocated)
[20:15] <Jimm_> done
[20:15] <oscar76> kion: it only says    tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               ESCUCHAR    -
[20:15] <trever420> then click on the unallocated partition
[20:15] <yellabs> going for a reboot
[20:16] <trever420> and go up to "Device" in the menu
[20:16] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:16] <trever420> and select create partition table
[20:16] <kion> ok you probbably missed the las p on the command
[20:16] <trever420> then click the "advanced"
[20:16] <Jimm_> yeah
[20:16] <trever420> it'll erase everything on it
[20:16] <trever420> and from the drop down select GPT
[20:16] <trever420> then click apply
[20:16] <mivulf> Where can I read about, how to use default ubuntu 11.10 file browser (nautilus?) through terminal?
[20:17] <meskarune> DynamicFail: can you install lsub? "apt-get install lsub"
[20:17] <Jimm_> done
[20:17] <kion> Oscar76 sudo netstat -tvnlp  Dont miss the last p which asks for the program name
[20:17] <trever420> ok now go and allocate the partition
[20:17] <sidb> please man someone help me here...! My ubuntu 11.10 is not detecting my blutooth
[20:17] <trever420> it should now allow you to make it more than 2TB
[20:17] <zykotick9> mivulf: you can't use nautilus though a terminal, what do you want to do exactly?
[20:17] <meskarune> DynamicFail: then run lsub as root and it will list all detected usb devices
[20:17] <Jimm_> is it okay for the hole drive to be that?
[20:17] <trever420> which should mean that XP can also read it
[20:17] <trever420> yea thats fine
[20:17] <Jimm_> great
[20:17] <meskarune> sidb: do you have bluetooth modules installed ?
[20:17] <trever420> if you want
[20:17] <trever420> i dont think it matters
[20:17] <mivulf> zykotick9: for example, i want to open any folder from termianl ^__^
[20:18] <kion> Oscar76 but i am shure that is sshd, ..... lets  see, did you open the port 22 with the command I sent you?
[20:18] <DynamicFail> meskarune, couldn't find package lsub... I really think you are thinking of lsusb... which lists all usb devices and info and is part of the usbutils package?
[20:18] <zykotick9> mivulf: "cd /path" then "ls" to list
[20:18] <trever420> tho if you want windows to read the other >2TB partition u gotta make it NTFS or something that windows can read
[20:18] <trever420> not EXT4
[20:18] <Jimm_> i could kiss you lol
[20:18] <john_doe_jr> What are accessors methods?
[20:18] <trever420> your 100GB should be EXT4
[20:18] <trever420> please dont kiss me :-P
[20:18] <mivulf> zykotick9: yes, but how open it on GUI?
[20:18] <sidb> i just dont know what exactly the problem is. But neither blueman or ubuntu`s bluetooth manager detects it
[20:18] <mivulf> zykotick9: as like double-click
[20:18] <Pici> john_doe_jr: offtopic for this channel. Try ##programming or another channel for whatever language you're programming in.
[20:19] <oscar76> kion: yes I did
[20:19] <john_doe_jr> Pici: alright thanks
[20:19] <Jimm_> legend
[20:19] <mauryck> how can i install kernel3.2 in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:19] <sidb> meskarune, i just dont know what exactly the problem is. But neither blueman or ubuntu`s bluetooth manager detects it
[20:19] <trever420> lol... now to delete that 2.5TB virtual drive i created on the company's vm server... lol they'd be pissed
[20:19] <Jimm_> time for curry before its too cold now, night
[20:20] <oscar76> kion: I did sudo service ssh restart   and   sudo netstat -tvnlp but it doesn't show yet
[20:20] <zykotic10> mivulf: you could use "xdg-open file" to get the same effect as what a double click in nautilus would do (usually)
[20:20] <arginfarb> ok am I just completely oblivious or something? how do I get to the options menu in firefox
[20:20] <llutz> oscar76: sudo lsof -i :22
[20:20] <DynamicFail> how do I adjust the power settings for usb ports?
[20:20] <qw-Russian> good bay
[20:20] <qw-Russian> thanks from help me
[20:20] <trever420> jimm_ did it work ok?
[20:21] <mivulf> zykotic10: ah, thx. Thats what I mean. So i must read now about XDG
[20:21] <OerHeks> EvilResistance, i just tries ext2read, but i won't try writing from windows on ext4.
[20:21] <meskarune> sidb: can you install that then? oh here we go: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_lsusb.htm
[20:21] <zykotic10> mivulf: there is a Gnome version of xdg-open sorry i forget what it is though
[20:21] <oscar76> llutz: thanks, it's there.  I'll try again
[20:22] <mivulf> zykotic10: thanks you very much! =)
[20:22] <Miike> which virtualisation software would you recomment to run windows? Xen? VirtualBox?
[20:22] <sidb> meskarune: Thanks for coming forward to help man...! I`ll check the link right away
[20:22] <trever420> vmware Miike
[20:22] <Jak2000> Virtual box
[20:22] <trever420> or vbox
[20:22] <trever420> which ever is easiest for you
[20:22] <trever420> i have a vmware server
[20:23] <meskarune> I like virtual box more than vmware
[20:23] <mauryck> how can i install kernel 3.2 in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:23] <meskarune> plus there is an open source version of virtual box
[20:23] <trever420> i guess it depends on what you are doing meskarune
[20:23] <trever420> you cant cluster vbox unfortunately
[20:23] <trever420> :-(
[20:23] <Miike> is vbox == virtualbox?
[20:23] <meskarune> yeah
[20:23] <trever420> yes vbox is virtual box
[20:23] <meskarune> I try to have mostly open source stuff on my box
[20:24] <trever420> i have both VMWare ESXi and VMWARE server
[20:24] <arginfarb> except that I think there's gotta be some issues with the VB kernel cuz I get hard freezes all the time on VB
[20:24] <trever420> meskarune, why?
[20:24] <arginfarb> it *is* free though, so theoretically I can't complain
[20:24] <arginfarb> but I still do
[20:24] <meskarune> trever420: political reasons. its pretty offtopic though
[20:24] <arginfarb> (complain that is)
[20:24] <trever420> i see... i normally use open source too... but since vmware is free i dont mind using it
[20:25] <trever420> tho i havent used vmware player much (which i guess is similar to virtual box in functionality
[20:25] <meskarune> trever420: you could read up on rms to know more. (richard stallman)
[20:25] <oscar76> kion: now I see it   tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               ESCUCHAR    3843/sshd
[20:25] <Viman> is there a specific command to upgrade the Linux kernel?
[20:25] <trever420> i am very familiar with Richard Stallman i was only in his lectures for an entire semester
[20:25] <sidb> meskarune, I am not using usb bluetooth device. i have tried using the command sudo lspci and following is the output
[20:25] <sidb> sudo lspci
[20:25] <sidb> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
[20:25] <sidb> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[20:25] <sidb> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
[20:26] <trever420> when i was at MIT
[20:26] <sidb> 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05)
[20:26] <FloodBot1> sidb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Viman  you mean other than apt-get upgrade?
[20:26] <oscar76> kion: but it just doesn't connect
[20:26] <Viman> yes. kernel.org gives latest stable v3.2, while mine's just been upped to 3.0.16
[20:26] <cfhowlett> mauryck: sudo apt-cache search kernel-image
[20:26] <meskarune> mauryck: I would suggest using debian testing if you want the 3.2 kernel (I'm using it right now. increased battery life on my laptop \o/ "
[20:26] <trever420> i was just seeing if you had a reason ;-)... alot of people say they like opensource cuz it means free... which isnt always true... i was just testing you meskarune
[20:26] <sidb> i am not able to know which one is for bluetooth
[20:26] <Pici> Viman: Ubuntu doesn't upgrade packages like that, especially the kernel.
[20:27] <cfhowlett> mauryck: followed by $ sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.xx-yy-generic
[20:27] <Pici> !latest | Viman
[20:27] <Viman> so really 3.0.16 is the most bleeding edge it gets?
[20:27] <yellabs> i have got my swap working, just wanted to say, thank you again, one of the greatest things about ubuntu is its community, hmm, yes love it ! :)
[20:27] <Miike> damn - Ubuntu Software Center seems to be stuck on installing Synaptic :-(
[20:27] <OerHeks> sidb, use paste.ubuntu.com and send us the url
[20:27] <meskarune> trever420: keep the penis measuring contests to off-topic. :P
[20:28] <Pici> Viman: 3.2 will be in the next release of Ubuntu.
[20:28] <Pici> meskarune: Lets keep the language family friendly as well.
[20:28] <OerHeks> yellabs, have fun
[20:28] <sidb> Oerheks, Hmm i think i just got punished for that. been muted. man this IRC has got tuff rules. But i didnt meant to flood the channel...:(
[20:28] <meskarune> pici: sorry. didn't know a euphamism for that
[20:28] <yellabs> yeah, great ssd drive
[20:29] <yellabs> i cant hear any noise from this one...
[20:29] <yellabs> and its fast
[20:30] <OerHeks> yellabs, take a look at  discard ( for auto trim) and noatime ( for less writing actions)
[20:30] <ElderSyrinx> I have a workgroup issue if anyone can help I'd be grateful.  ubuntu 11.10 on a windows 7 workgroup.  The workgroup has a password.  I'm getting an error when I attempt to access the network.... "unable to mount location, failed to retrieve share list from server".  Is this password related or something else?
[20:30] <kaiowas> so gonna try again..
[20:30] <kaiowas> If i partition my drive in 2 partitions, one for OSX and one for Ubuntu. Is there a way I can install Ubuntu without a cd/usb memory?
[20:30] <meskarune> viman: if you want bleeding edge, use debian testing or arch linux. if you want stability with most of the bugs ironed out, ubuntu LTS is better
[20:30] <mauryck> meskarune, how can i use debian testing?
[20:30] <Trevor69420> bleh computer just crashed strange
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> Viman  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Development_model
[20:30] <llutz> yellabs: but be warned: if you use discard and you delete files, theres no way to get them back (besides backups)
[20:30] <OerHeks> yellabs, my fstab looks like this > UUID=cb666b2a-5d6d-4ec4-a56d-a7903866933f /               ext4    discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:31] <yellabs> hmm, yes i will do that, i will ask you later when we meet again.. to tired right now ..
[20:31] <arginfarb> hmm... nvidia-settings doesn't seem to have a way for me to configure multiple monitors, anyone know how to do this without editing xorg.conf?
[20:31] <meskarune> mauryck: you install debian to your computer. :P
[20:31] <Viman> right. It's just funny because the whole userland gets updated jjust like other distros, but the kernel seems to lag behind (2.6x in 10.04, still)
[20:31] <meskarune> mauryck: or check out linux mint debian edition
[20:31] <OerHeks> llutz, do you use noatime only ?
[20:32] <llutz> OerHeks: nope, i have backups :)
[20:32] <wjimn> kaiowas: not that i can think of, unless there's an installer that works from OSX like there's a Windows installer
[20:32] <Pici> Viman: The rest of userland does NOT get updated after a release comes out. Only security updates for those versions.
[20:32] <Viman> do you have to use debian testing to get that rolling release?
[20:32] <meskarune> I use relatime on ssd. but noatime will help with disk writes considerably
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Viman  you're free to join the developper's team
[20:32] <Viman> pici: at least it seems like it. But I see the point.
[20:32] <charles_____> my "friend" just downloaded ubuntu 11.10, installed it via Windows 7... when he reboots the installer gets stuck, any ideas what we can do?
[20:33] <joeko> how do i change the tty that is displayed when a machine starts
[20:33] <Pici> Viman: If you want a rolling release, debian (testing) is probably for you.
[20:33] <Viman> thanks for the advice.
[20:33] <Trevor69420> joeko maybe the installer is corrupt?
[20:33] <zykotic10> Pici: #debian would say that debian doesn't have a rolling release
[20:33] <Trevor69420> try another download?
[20:33] <Pici> zykotic10: this isn't #debian ;) :P
[20:33] <DynamicFail> I have a webcam that I'm trying to connect to from an embedded computer running Ubuntu 10.04.1 (custom build). I tested the camera and was able to play it in vlc on a normal laptop running ubuntu 10.04.3. On the normal laptop it shows up as video0 no problem, however on my embeded computer it shows up as usbdev2.X. I'm guessing there is some sort of drivers/packages not installed in the custom build... but I have no idea what. For example the custom bu
[20:33] <DynamicFail> ild didn't even have usbutils installed. Any thoughts on what packages etc would need to be installed in order to get v4l2 to work?
[20:34] <joeko> I am using preseeding
[20:34] <mauryck> meskarune, lol i have a lot of stuff in this machine. Thats not an option
[20:34] <Jimm_> trevor?
[20:34] <meskarune> mauryck: you'll just have to wait to ubuntu to update then. :P
[20:35] <mauryck> yeah i guess
[20:36] <meskarune> depending on what you do with your computer rolling release or standard release can be better/worse
[20:36] <mauryck> it is just that my keyboard writes on its own and it is a bug related to the dkms thingy and i have tried everything to fix it
[20:36] <mauryck> so i thought a new kernel would work
[20:36] <charles_____> my "friend" just downloaded ubuntu 11.10, installed it via Windows 7... when he reboots the installer gets stuck, any ideas what we can do?
[20:37] <meskarune> standard release is better for servers and computers you don't want to have change constantly. also better for stability. rolling release is better for security and having the lastest software packages - which can be important if you have very new hardware
[20:37] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to change time in a local user? By command line please
[20:37] <Jimm_> trevor are you still about mate?
[20:37] <Miike> what's bad about xen virtualisation?
[20:37] <BlouBlou> by local user I mean single user, without using sudo, I'm in a shell
[20:37] <mauryck> man date, to change the time i think you have to be root
[20:38] <meskarune> BlouBlou: you can use date or time to change the time and date. or hwclock if you need to change the hardware clock, but you need root for that
[20:38] <oscar76> kion, llutz: I tried running ssh from the other pc and it says connection timeout too.  When I ping from the server it can't see the other pc.  may this be the problem ?
[20:38] <meskarune> charles_____: does the installer give you any errors?
[20:39] <meskarune> oscar76: make sure you have port 21 open in your router
[20:39] <BlouBlou> meskarune: I can't then, I'll have to live with GMT time :P
[20:39] <llutz> oscar76: if you don't use some icmp-filtering, yes
[20:39] <kion> Oscar76 yes that is the problem
[20:39] <gotwig> hey
[20:39] <Viman> sup
[20:40] <gotwig> you saw that new global menu mockup thing at omg ubuntu o.0???
[20:40] <kion> are both computers in the same network?
[20:40] <gotwig> horrible IMHO
[20:40] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:40] <kion> Oscar76 are both computer on the same networks
[20:41] <DynamicFail> What packages help a camera show up as /dev/video0 as opposed to /dev/usbdev2.X ?
[20:41] <Bonny> Hi. I need some help installing ubuntu on my flashdrive and making it bootable
[20:41] <metsys23> hey guys... i need a little advice: which is the best google talk linux client for you? i am using pidgi but i think thant i do not recieve all the messages... :(hey guys... i need a little advice: which is the best google talk linux client for you? i am using pidgi but i think thant i do not recieve all the income messages
[20:41] <oscar76> kion: no,  one is with cable (desktop) and the other mobile broadband (netbook)
[20:41] <ikonia> metsys23: don't need to repeat and put it inj brackets
[20:42] <Guest75773> Is anyone here that can help me out with installing ubuntu on usb for netbook.
[20:42] <oscar76> metsys23: I use pidgin too and it seems to work fine
[20:42] <metsys23> ikonia, sorry, copy past error :)
[20:42] <ikonia> not a problem
[20:42] <kion> oscar76: ok That is the problem, you need to configure the server router to forward port 22 to the server machine
[20:42] <mbeierl> BlouBlou, that's not the "time", that's the LOCALE.  GMT, etc are set by /etc/localtime or by environment variable
[20:43] <meskarune> metsys23: centerim? look up jabber clients in the software center. :)
[20:43] <oscar76> kion: right now I just got lost :-(
[20:43] <usuario_> apa
[20:43] <Guest75773>  Is their anyone that can help me.
[20:43] <kion>  oscar76:  lost??
[20:43] <usuario_> ola wapa
[20:43] <Viman> say it, guest
[20:44] <usuario_> qee ases?
[20:44] <Pici> !es | usuario_
[20:44] <Guest75773> I need help installing ubuntu on usb
[20:44] <Guest75773> and making it bootable
[20:44] <Viman> from a ubuntu machine?
[20:44] <oscar76> kion: I think dont know how to do that
[20:44] <Guest75773> No from windows
[20:44] <Guest75773> I have wubi installed atm
[20:44] <Viman> ok, search for unetbootin
[20:44] <Guest75773> ok
[20:44] <Viman> and download the program.
[20:45] <Guest75773> Alrighty
[20:45] <theon> Hmm what can I do about my thunderbird data that is stored in home? (1.2gb+ right now, only on a 13gb partition ... a bit too much)
[20:45] <zykotic10> Guest75773: do you want the installER on the USB, or the actual install?
[20:45] <Viman> you then just need an empty usb drive that can fit the iso
[20:45] <kion> oscar76: find out the inside ip of the router might be and connect to it with your web browser, that will lead you to the configurations of the router
[20:45] <metsys23> oscar 76, sometimes I have pidgin and gmail (on the browser) open at the same time, and receive it in gmail but not on the pidgin.
[20:45] <theon> I could just delete the map but I' m not sure what would happen if I did, so I wanted to check before I did anything I might regret later
[20:46] <Guest75773> zykotic i want to boot from the usb
[20:46] <Guest75773> and install it to the hardrive
[20:46] <kion> oscar76: next find out the ip of the server  we will call it  ServerIp
[20:46] <meskarune> Guest75773:  you can use unetbootin
[20:46] <zykotic10> Guest75773: ok, unetbootin should work then.
[20:46] <Viman> unetbootin is your tool
[20:46] <Guest75773> I finished installin git
[20:46] <oscar76> kion: I think its <IP_ADDRESS> but let me see
[20:46] <Guest75773> installing*
[20:46] <kion> oscar76:  finally configure the router to forward all traffic to port 22 to the Serverip
[20:46] <meskarune> Guest75773: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:46] <Guest75773> I already installed it
[20:46] <seryth> How can I install the nvidia_173_updates package from terminal?
[20:46] <Viman> run it and follow the instructions, ans you should be good to go
[20:46] <kion> oscar76: ok try to connect to it!
[20:46] <pukeko> hey is there a MS office chan anywhere i have a Outllok question..
[20:47] <meskarune> pukeko: freenode is for open source projects. microsoft isn't open source. :P
[20:47] <metsys23> meskarune, centerim, I had never heard of it, I am instaling it, thanks!
[20:47] <zykotic10> pukeko: you could try ##windows they might know
[20:47] <Guest75773> It only has upto verson 10.04..
[20:47] <pukeko> meskarune: ahh (doh!) thanks
[20:48] <meskarune> Guest75773:  you can use your own iso. just download the regular ubuntu iso file and use unetbootin with that to make a live usb
[20:48] <Viman> Guest: download the ISO from ubuntu.com
[20:48] <Viman> it works just as well
[20:48] <kion> oscar76:we can find out the server ip and the router ip by issuing the command "ifconfig" on the server
[20:48] <Guest75773> so leave the version blank?
[20:49] <Viman> choose "disk image"
[20:49] <Viman> then search for the downloaded ISO
[20:49] <Viman> (after you downloaded it)
[20:49] <DynamicFail> how do I check to see if uncvideo was installed
[20:49] <Guest75773> Ok ive doen that now
[20:50] <Guest75773> What do i put for type
[20:50] <Guest75773> usb or hardrive?
[20:50] <Viman> USB,
[20:50] <Viman> then choose it, and press next
[20:50] <Guest75773> Will this work on a sandisk cruzer usb?
[20:50] <seryth> How can I install the nvidia_173_updates package from terminal?
[20:50] <Guest75773> 4gb
[20:50] <yellabs> hmm, trying to get noatime to work, but i dont know if i did it the right way
[20:50] <meskarune> kion: ifconfig is being replaced by iproute2
[20:51] <Viman> I don't know about it, but it's big enough to fit
[20:51] <wjimn> how can i change the color or get rid of the background rounded boxes behind my unity launcher icons?
[20:51] <Viman> so I guess it does
[20:51] <v3trae> anyone figure out how to add icons to the cinnamon bar?
[20:51] <yellabs> added it to fstab, is that the right way ?
[20:51] <Guest75773> Will it?
[20:51] <Viman> try it, i think it does
[20:51] <yellabs> like this
[20:51] <yellabs> ext4 rw,noatime,
[20:51] <Guest75773> You there?
[20:51] <OerHeks> yellabs, my fstab looks like this > UUID=cb666b2a-5d6d-4ec4-a56d-a7903866933f /               ext4    discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:52] <meskarune> yellabs: you can use relatime instead of default disk mount options for an ssd (or to save battery life on a laptop)
[20:52] <kion> meskarune: thanks for the advice, just tried it on my terminal, my ubuntu box does not know that command
[20:52] <DynamicFail> How do you test to see if drivers are installed... I know by default ubuntu 10.04 has uncvideo/gspca but I need to check to see if it was included in a custom build I have... and if they weren't install them.
[20:52] <yellabs> replace noatime with relatime ?
[20:52] <Guest75773> meskarune: Does this work on a sandisk cruzer usb?
[20:53] <yellabs> in the fstab entry ?
[20:53] <kion> oscar76: how is the battle going?
[20:53] <oscar76> kion: I found the DSL router IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:53] <oscar76> kion: what do I do next?
[20:53] <OerHeks> yellabs, yes, that is oke.
[20:53] <kion> oscar76: go to your web browser and as the address write <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:54] <seryth> oscar76: What're you trying to do?
[20:54] <Guest75773> Do i put anything for space used to presrve files across reboots (ubuntu only)
[20:54] <yellabs> so relatime is better then the noatime option ?
[20:54] <kion> oscar76: that will lead you to the configuration options of the router
[20:54] <meskarune> kion: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.iproute2.html  with linux kernels over 2.2 you should be using iproute2 instead of ifconfig (though ifconfig will still work, just might run into some issues)
[20:54] <Guest75773> Please answer me.
[20:54] <Guest75773> Meskarune
[20:55] <yellabs> i hope i understand you the right way OerHeks ...
[20:55] <Guest75773> Meskarune
[20:55] <meskarune> Guest75773: as long as your usb is formated correctly, it will work on any usb drive :P
[20:55] <kion> oscar76 NAT
[20:55] <meskarune> Guest75773: also don't fllood the channel. have some patience. :P
[20:55] <Guest75773> How do format it correctly
[20:55] <seryth> Guest75773: There is documentation about this.
[20:55] <JonathanCutrell_> Does anyone have a quick way of exposing SSH through my public IP? Is there any official docs on this?
[20:55] <kion> oscar76: go NAT and you need to forward port 22 to the serverIP which should be 192.168.1.XXX
[20:56] <seryth> !usb | Guest75773
[20:56] <JonathanCutrell_> haha
[20:56] <Guest75773> How do you format it correctly?
[20:56] <kion> meskarune:  i am using <IP_ADDRESS> and still does not know that command.
[20:56] <seryth> JonathanCutrell_: What do you mean "exposing"?
[20:56] <Guest75773> Please ive read over this im not sure what to do. Thats why i came to irc
[20:56] <meskarune> kion: then you need to install iproute2 :P
[20:56] <JonathanCutrell_> forwarding - sorry about that. I actually have two routers...
[20:57] <JonathanCutrell_> one DSL (crappy) router/modem,
[20:57] <JonathanCutrell_> as well as a Time Capsule.
[20:57] <meskarune> Guest75773:  your usb drive should be formated as fat32
[20:57] <Guest75773> I just need to know how to format my usb correctly
[20:57] <slackin_> #pugbot WILL BE GOING DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE FOR A FEW HOURS. PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT.
[20:57] <seryth> ............
[20:57] <Guest75773> How do u format it as fat 32?
[20:57] <meskarune> Guest75773:  windows has disk tools to do that
[20:57] <Pici> slackin_: /asay is bad. Don't do that again here.
[20:57] <meskarune> Guest75773: most likely it already is fat32. use the disk tools on windows to check
[20:57] <yellabs> hmm, i scrolled back and concluded that noatime is the right option
[20:57] <slackin_> i forgot i was on freenode
[20:58] <Guest75773> I know but how do i clear everything from usb
[20:58] <kion> meskarune: ok thanks for the advice, i will document myself on iproute2
[20:58] <marco> ciao
[20:58] <seryth> Guest75773: In windows, right click on the USB stick > Format > FAT32, it's pretty simple
[20:58] <blitz> you can usually right click on the drive and there should be a format option in windows..
[20:58] <meskarune> yellabs: noatime will mess up time sensitive files, like email if you use a client. relatime will only add time stamps for files that are under use so mail won't be messed up, but it sill reduces disk writes
[20:58] <seryth> Guest75773: A bit of googling will help you. There are countless tutorials for installing from a usb stick.
[20:59] <Guest75773> do i check quick format or create and MS-DOS startup disk
[20:59] <blitz> are you trying to create a linux bootable usb drive?
[20:59] <Guest75773> Yes blitz
[20:59] <yellabs> add it or replace it ( the noatime entry in fstab ) ?
[20:59] <blitz> there are programs that do it all for you
[20:59] <zykotic10> blitz: unetbootin requires FAT partitioned drive to work
[20:59] <Guest75773> Im tryign to figure out how to use unebootin
[21:00] <IanWizard-Cloud> Can I not remove applets from unity?
[21:00] <yellabs> this is how its now : ext4 rw,noatime,
[21:00] <DynamicFail> How do I check if I have UVCVIDEO installed?
[21:00] <blitz> ah
[21:00] <blitz> Guest75773, just do quick format then
[21:00] <Guest75773> Alright ive formatted usb
[21:01] <Guest75773> now what?
[21:01] <meskarune> yellabs: replace noatime with relatime :)
[21:01] <Guest75773> Do i put anything on unebootin where it says space used to preserve files across reboots
[21:01] <trism> IanWizard-Cloud: what would you like to remove? you generally have to uninstall indicators to remove them
[21:01] <yellabs> okey thanks
[21:01] <yellabs> got to go , untill next time
[21:02] <IanWizard-Cloud> trism: for instance, the mail / gwibber applet.  I never use, I'd like to remove it... I wouldn't complain if I could add a systray, but that can be solved with other apps.
[21:02] <Guest75773> I am being patient but i just wnat you to not see the message
[21:02] <meskarune> Guest75773: then open unextbootin and choose the ubuntu iso file, and choose your usb device. then run it
[21:03] <Guest75773> Is that all meskarune
[21:03] <blitz> every time apt-get install finished installing something, kbuildsycoca4 is automatically run
[21:03] <Guest75773> Do i put anything for space used to preserve files across reboots
[21:03] <blitz> is that from okular?
[21:04] <trism> IanWizard-Cloud: the envelope indicator is indicator-messages, you can uninstall that to remove it, you can also just uninstall gwibber if you just want to remove the broadcast entry
[21:04] <seryth> Guest75773: You want to install ubuntu right? Then you don't need to leave space for anything.
[21:04] <Guest75773> I want windows too
[21:04] <Guest75773> Im dual booting
[21:04] <blitz> not off the usb drive
[21:04] <Dumb_> hi
[21:04] <Guest75773> h if i do this to my usb
[21:05] <Guest75773> can it be useable again
[21:05] <Dumb_> my ubuntu is not working
[21:05] <IanWizard-Cloud> trism: I am unistalling gwibber actually, but I didn't realize that I could just uninstall an indicator.
[21:05] <zykotic10> !notworking | Dumb_
[21:05] <zykotic10> !details | Dumb_
[21:05] <IanWizard-Cloud> trism: thx, I still find that aspect of Unity, bass ackwards.
[21:06] <blitz> Guest75773, yeah you can always format it again
[21:06] <Guest75773> Awesome
[21:06] <Guest75773> Soo..
[21:06] <Guest75773> So it will work when i reboot right?
[21:07] <superpsycho> hi, i have a problem with 10.04 lts… last time i try to update it i kicked me out of ssh… is that a known problem ? its a v-server so i´m not able to get physical access...
[21:07] <meskarune> Guest75773:  you can put some space down for preserving stuff between boots. if you reboot with the usb plugged in, it should boot up ubuntu. if not, change your bios settings
[21:07] <blitz> some computers can't even boot off usb though
[21:07] <Guest75773> Ok.
[21:07] <lupo20> ciao
[21:07] <lupo20> !list
[21:07] <Guest75773> blitz im using gateway
[21:07] <zykotic10> !it | lupo20
[21:07] <Guest75773> will that work
[21:07] <blitz> just try it out and see I guess
[21:08] <Guest75773> gateway LT2104u
[21:08] <blitz> so does anyone know what would make kbuildsycoca4 automatically run after using apt-get
[21:08] <saruji> anyone have a good article on how to make ubuntu 11.10 run faster on your laptop?  I have a core duo with 2gb using unity 2d and it still does not feel "snappy"
[21:09] <Guest75773> Ok its installing at the moment
[21:09] <DynamicFail> Can you install drivers without having to rebuild your whole system in some easy way like apt-get ?
[21:09] <saruji> or any advice on how to would be great, thanks
[21:09] <Dumb_> ubottu: oh
[21:09] <mbeierl> saruji, 32 bit install, or 64 bit?
[21:09] <saruji> mbeierl, 32bit
[21:09] <blitz> make it faster while still using unity saruji ?
[21:10] <saruji> blitz, ok how can i go back to gnome?
[21:10] <mbeierl> saruji, then the next step I would recommend is xubuntu instead of Gnome...
[21:10] <blitz> I think if you log out there's a gear and you can change it
[21:10] <cfhowlett> saruji: xubuntu or lubuntu are lighter distro's for lower spec machines
[21:11] <saruji> but should a core duo really be put in that category?
[21:11]  * mbeierl really needs to try lubuntu one of these days... heard great things
[21:11] <mbeierl> saruji, it's not the core processor, it's the GPU, the graphics demands of Gnome these days that is the issue
[21:11] <saruji> 2gh
[21:12] <cfhowlett> saruji: 2 gigs of ram?  My 2009 low end of the scale dell came with 4 gigs and a 500 Gig hdd...
[21:12] <Guest75773> How do i select the usb boot option in the bios menue?
[21:12] <cfhowlett> saruji: as mbeierl pointed out, the real issue is the gpu capability
[21:12] <saruji> mbeierl, ok, I' running ati 1400..... cfhowlett that sounds like a microsoft fanboy selling me vista once said
[21:13] <blitz> which is why using another environment might work instead of installing another distro
[21:13] <blitz> right?
[21:13]  * cfhowlett *not sure how to take that - chooses watchful silence*
[21:13] <Guest75773> blitz
[21:14] <Guest75773> how do i select the boot option in the BIOS boot menue
[21:14] <Guest75773> the usb boot option*
[21:14] <mbeierl> saruji, the 1400 is one of the mobility radeon cards.  They are not known for their horsepower.  Therefore cfhowlett's statement about lower spec'd machines is correct here, unfortunately
[21:14] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I got a question, I need a x64 but I accidently downloaded the x32
[21:15] <Simon1245> Is there any way to update it to x64 instead without having to reinstall it all?
[21:15] <zykotic10> Simon1245: nope, reinstall with amd64
[21:15] <mbeierl> Simon1245, there is no upgrade that I have ever come across, sorry
[21:15] <Rounin> Hi! I've just installed ruby 1.9.1, but when I run "ri" to view the documentation, it doesn't find anything, despite it supposedly having been installed. How do I enable the documentation?
[21:15] <lupo20> ciao
[21:15] <lupo20> hi
[21:15] <meskarune> Simon1245: you have to re-download the 64 bit iso and install
[21:15] <waaaagh> hello
[21:15] <Guest75773> How do i choos usb boot option in BIOS boot menue???
[21:15] <mbeierl> Simon1245, however, if you keep your /home, then after the re-install your data will still be there
[21:15] <Simon1245> zykotic10, mbeierl ah alright
[21:15] <blitz> Guest75773, it's supposed to be auto set to it
[21:15] <Simon1245> Alright, I'll do it now :)
[21:15] <Guest75773> ok
[21:15] <saruji> i see, shame, if i want to use the full potential of the latest and greatest I would get windows for the support, I thought there was a crowd for those who arent part of the 5 consumer turn over, looks like this distro has lost that, shame
[21:15] <Guest75773> Ill try and come back
[21:15] <cfhowlett> waaaagh: greetings
[21:15] <lupo20> !list
[21:15] <meskarune> Guest75773: go into bios and then choose boot disc usb
[21:16] <Simon1245> By the way, what's the biggest thing that can happen if I use a x32 instead of x64?
[21:16] <mbeierl> saruji, I don't know what you mean.  If you get the latest and greatest lubuntu or xubunut it will work on your lower-powered laptop.
[21:16] <meskarune> Simon1245: 64 bit just uses all your cores (if you have more than 4)
[21:16] <meskarune> I mean 2
[21:17] <Simon1245> meskarune, I just have 2 so that means that I don't need it?
[21:17] <saruji> mbeierl, will give it a shot, just saying this tells me that the distro is taking a different road
[21:17] <zykotic10> meskarune: 64bit has NOTHING to do with CPU Cores.  It has to do with memory.  Simon1245
[21:17] <saruji> mbeierl, thanks
[21:17] <Simon1245> meskarune, My Windows is in x64
[21:17] <meskarune> saruji: use a light wieght linux like puppy for old hardware
[21:17] <Simon1245> zykotic10, I got 4gb ram
[21:17] <mbeierl> Simon1245, also the 4gb limit.  above 4gb (technically 3.2?) you will need to use PAE for addressing the larger area of memory
[21:17] <Innxis> Good evening. So, I installed ubuntu without GRUB, after which I installed if from the live cd but I can't configure it. Any help?
[21:17] <Simon1245> mbeierl, so if I have 4gb it's fine?
[21:18] <zykotic10> Simon1245: 32bit will either 1) not use the full 4GB or 2) with PAE will be a few % slower then optimal
[21:18] <Simon1245> mbeierl, It feels that ubuntu is really slow though, Windows loads much faster and shit so I thought wrong version might be the prblem
[21:18] <bgs2> I'm trying to get an old X Windows game to work on 11.10.  I've gone through a couple of different ways, and I end up with an executable game, but it's apparently missing a font dependency as it says "fatal error: cannot load font".  I'm wondering if anyone could help guide me through this a bit.
[21:18] <Simon1245> What do you guys recommend, change it to x64?
[21:18] <mbeierl> Simon1245, I would almost recommend 32bit over 64 with less than 4gb as the larger addressing space causes you to have less usable memory.  (reference needed)
[21:18] <codemonkey1337> hey guys, how would I get this command to use the ssh port 2222? ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l user localhost
[21:18] <seryth> bgs2: Whine? lol
[21:18] <seryth> Wine*
[21:19] <zykotic10> bgs2: what game?
[21:19] <Simon1245> mbeierl, I got 4gb ram on this laptop so wouldn't it be better to switch it?
[21:19] <mbeierl> Simon1245, define slow.  Anything in particular?
[21:19] <bgs2> seryth: no, the game is for X11/X-Windows, called xjewel
[21:19] <nopf> codemonkey1337: add -p 2222 ?
[21:19] <seryth> bgs2: Oh, I see.. :/ dunno then
[21:19] <cfhowlett> Simon1245: no real benefit to 64 unless you've got 4+ gigs of ram says the official documentation
[21:19] <Simon1245> mbeierl, Like loading everything a firefox app takes like 2-4 seconds and this one is completly clean
[21:19] <codemonkey1337> nopf: where do I add it, I tried adding it as the front parameter, and as the last parameter, but it gives me an error every single time
[21:20] <Simon1245> cfhowlett, Ah so that means I don't really need it as I just have 4gb, right unless I plan to upgrade it
[21:20] <nopf> codemonkey1337: i normally add it in the end...
[21:20] <meskarune> zykotic10: if you put a 32 bit linux on a computer with 64 bit support, its not going to use all the system resources efficiently. it DOES affect how the cpu cores are used
[21:20] <zykotic10> Simon1245: firefox, unfortunatly, isn't a good comparision - it's always been slower in GNU/Linux then microsoft (swiftfox is/was an attempt to remedy that)
[21:20] <mbeierl> Simon1245, what about subsequent loads?  It might just be that your disk cache is cold