[11:58] <darkenergy> qin, I see the server with its hostname
[11:58] <Rebas> how do i become the admin user so i can install flash player?
[11:58] <bazhang> Rebas, sudo
[11:58] <darkenergy> rebas, sudo?
[11:58] <qin> darkenergy: shh yourserver_ip form desktop?
[11:58] <Rebas> i know i can do sudo in terminal, but it still dosent let me copy
[11:58] <bazhang> Rebas, copy what
[11:59] <darkenergy> qin, saying connection refused. Do i have to allow on my server?
[11:59] <darkenergy> ... or using command wrong -- ssh <ipaddress>
[11:59] <Rebas> flashplayer.so into /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[11:59] <qin> darkenergy: Yes, server need to run ssh server to make connection.
[11:59] <Rebas> if i just drag and drop, it says i have no permission
[11:59] <darkenergy> sudo mv flashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugs
[11:59] <darkenergy> rebas, chmod
[11:59] <Rebas> oooh
[11:59] <Triscar0> i have to write "sudo dhclient eth0" to get ip from my router, but when i restart the router it dosent get ip automatic, how can i fix this a easy way? im a newbeeee
[12:00] <Rebas> ill try that darkenergy
[12:00] <darkenergy> rebas, chmod to change permission bits on files etc
[12:00] <Drake|> Rebas:  or even "sudo nautilus"
[12:00] <MikeDD> the next fun task will be getting the rest of the audio to work, aka firefox (youtube, no sound there yet)
[12:00] <Drake|> Rebas:   "sudo nautilus /usr/lib/opera/plugins"
[12:01] <darkenergy> 4 - read 2 - write 1 - execute .... add them up to have all 3... in the format chmod 000  0s being user/group/everyone i believe
[12:01] <MikeDD> I think I will save myself that fun for tomorrow night...
[12:01] <Slart> Rebas, Dravekx: don't use sudo with gui programs.. use gksudo instead
[12:01] <Slart> !gksudo | Rebas, Dravekx
[12:01] <darkenergy> qin, should ssh server just be sshd?
[12:02] <E3D3> Slart: Although menu & shortcut have the same commands (kate -b %U) do they have different configurations (session etc).
[12:02] <Dravekx> Slart, k
[12:02] <qin> darkenergy: sudo service ssh start
[12:02] <Rebas> ubottu, then in run i put the " mv flashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugs" yes?
[12:02] <qin> darkenergy: <foo>d mean deamon of foo
[12:02] <Rebas> ..
[12:02] <Rebas> anyone else then? :P
[12:02] <MikeDD> night guys and gals
[12:03] <qin> darkenergy: (Or it mean just food)
[12:03] <Slart> E3D3: hmm.. is the %U supposed to be replaced by the current user?
[12:03] <PythonSnake> Hi
[12:03] <darkenergy> qin, doesn't deamon mean server though for apps...
[12:03] <PythonSnake> I'm trying to disable touchpad with fn+f9 but it doesn't work..
[12:03] <PythonSnake> anyone know how to fix it ?
[12:03] <darkenergy> qin, like the daemon is the main think used for servers so files just filenamed for filname server ?
[12:03] <qin> darkenergy: Well, in short it can mean "shellless process"
[12:04] <Drake|> Slart: I don't know if that was ment for me.. but for Nautilus sudo / gksudo is just the same.. but if he is running ex Opera as root "gksudo Opera" is recomended
[12:04] <darkenergy> qin, cool... like it's connected to kernel by itself?
[12:04] <darkenergy> not child of any shell
[12:04] <E3D3> Slart: I really have no idea what those commands mean, I mostly copy/paste them without problems. Now I will read more, Thanks for your patience for my stupid question.
[12:05] <AdvoWork> ive just seen this in my daemon.log: dnsmasq[3210]: forwarding table overflow: check for server loops.  any suggestions?
[12:05] <qin> darkenergy: No, it is normall process, but not stated via shell, rather via init
[12:05] <Slart> Drake|: oh.. I don't really know the specifics.. just figured I would give you two a heads up that gksudo might be a better choice
[12:05] <darkenergy> qin, oh yeah forgot about init
[12:05] <daniel__> hello there is a vconversion program that can covert avi s to a droid screen what program is that ?
[12:06] <Slart> E3D3: hehe.. no worries, hope you find out what causes the difference
[12:06] <bazhang> daniel__, handbrake
[12:07] <daniel__> bazhang, u are alsoways so helpful thank you so much
[12:07] <bazhang> !handbrake > daniel__
[12:07] <bazhang> daniel__, from their site, or the PPA
[12:07] <daniel__> ppa?
[12:07] <Rebas> hm
[12:07] <violentk> can i boot an ISO without burning it?
[12:07] <Rebas> gksudo didnt do anything
[12:08] <Rebas> or rather, it didnt copy the file
[12:08] <bazhang> violentk, from grub2 off hdd? sure
[12:08] <qin> violentk: With vbox for example
[12:08] <violentk> i have virtualbox installed running ubuntu 10.0.4 lts
[12:09] <violentk> how would i go about doing that
[12:09] <morth> does anyone know how to make an auntorun command move to a location on startup: ie- i want to set gnome-terminal to bottom left corner on startup under a profile to be transpart for wallpaper.
[12:09] <qin> violentk: /j #vbox
[12:09] <bazhang> violentk, the grub2 one?
[12:10] <violentk> idk im new to this
[12:10] <violentk> its oravle vm virtualbox
[12:10] <violentk> oracle**
[12:10] <bazhang> violentk, you are already using vbox, whats the issue
[12:11] <Slart> morth: have a look at devilspie, I think it can do a lot with window positioning
[12:11] <dimas_> is there any way to add some parameters in the configure command?...as i am trying to do this as explained in one of the ubuntu tutorials but i am getting this...:~/pulseaudio-0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18$ sudo ./configure --with-jack
[12:11] <morth> slart will do, as soon as i ask i find a link lol whats the odds.
[12:11] <dimas_> configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --with-jack
[12:12] <morth> slart thanks
[12:12] <qin> morth: conky would be lighter than embedded gnome-terminal
[12:12] <Slart> morth: you're welcome
[12:12] <violentk> i just don't know how to make it boot the usb
[12:12] <Slart> !devilspie | morth, here's another link =)
[12:12] <Rebas> not sure who it was who said it, but  "sudo mv ~/Desktop/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/"
[12:12] <Rebas> seems to work
[12:12] <violentk> sorry it took so long to answer was tinkering
[12:13] <bazhang> !grub2 | violentk please have a read
[12:13] <daniel__> bazhang, do i want to check handbrake-cli and handbrake-gtk or just gtk ?
[12:13] <morth> qin okay, ill check that out aswell.
[12:14] <bazhang> daniel__, gtk is the gui one. thats what I use. depends on you
[12:15] <morth> any good guides on how to use Awesome WM?
[12:16] <daniel__> bazhang, and since im downloading it from synaptic it will auto update or should i keep an eye on the website?
[12:16] <loloski1000> join #anonops
[12:17] <gry> http://compsoc.tardis.ed.ac.uk/wiki/AwesomeWM_guide morth
[12:17] <bazhang> daniel__, its the PPA right? adding it to your repos will keep it up to date with the latest. no need for the website
[12:18] <daniel__> bazhang, ok sweet and thanks for the help again ur like allways on and allways have the right answear thanks
[12:18] <`Lynx> hello, i've installed 11.4 with a netinstall image and it won't boot but show me a blinking cursor. similar problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/768450
[12:18] <`Lynx> any ideas?
[12:18] <bazhang> awesome, awesome-extra  morth installed those from repos?
[12:19] <bazhang> `Lynx, beta 2?
[12:19] <`Lynx> no
[12:20] <`Lynx> regular version from their site described as minimal installation
[12:20] <`Lynx> it's not beta
[12:20] <bazhang> `Lynx, thats what the bug says
[12:21] <`Lynx> bazhang: it doesnt say anything, it won't boot but show a blinking cursor
[12:21] <`Lynx> Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" Minimal CD 19MB (MD5: cc1591035877c317fdef7f4ebf1662b9, SHA1:d86f78c8343009e57b0ecda14592e76802ce1ec4)
[12:21] <`Lynx> this
[12:21] <`Lynx> i dont want to install the server cuz it has kernel modifications, but netinstall doesnt work.. oh god..
[12:22] <PythonSnake> Hi
[12:23] <bazhang> PythonSnake, hi
[12:23] <PythonSnake> Is Kubuntu Ubuntu+KDE ?
[12:23] <bazhang> yes
[12:23] <PythonSnake> oh
[12:23] <dr_Willis> !kubuntu
[12:23] <PythonSnake> ok
[12:23] <`Lynx> great, no responses.
[12:23] <bazhang> install kubuntu-desktop to get it choose from login
[12:23] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, does someone have experience with emulating sound inputs/outputs in integrated soundcard (Realtek ALC888) in MB Gigabyte GA-P43-ES3G, it uses Line In / Front Speaker Out / Mic In   for that 3 outputs for 5.1, so i hear only front speakers right now :)
[12:24] <PythonSnake> bazhang: what do you prefer gnome or kde ?
[12:24] <`Lynx> kde wont run well on slow computers PythonSnake
[12:24] <bazhang> PythonSnake, #ubuntu-offtopic , you know that
[12:24] <dr_Willis> DarkKnightCZ:  you have some actual 5.1 sound source?
[12:25] <`Lynx> hello, i've installed 11.4 with a netinstall image and it won't boot but show me a blinking cursor. similar problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/768450
[12:25] <PythonSnake> 'Lynx: Can a i5 450M 2gb RAM and GMA HD computer handle it ?
[12:25] <bazhang> PythonSnake, yes of course
[12:25] <dr_Willis> PythonSnake:  install  both desktops and try them out
[12:25] <`Lynx> PythonSnake: i've got the same besides processor which is i3 330m and 4gb ram and it can handle it but not so good, it lags
[12:25] <DarkKnightCZ> dr_Willis: that soundcard is 5.1/7.1, inputs/outputs are configured in hardware, but it is switched by that Realtek software
[12:26] <PythonSnake> I've heard that kde can break ubuntu..
[12:26] <`Lynx> PythonSnake: i'd suggest you to go for gnome
[12:26] <bazhang> PythonSnake, not true
[12:26] <DarkKnightCZ> PythonSnake: even gnome can break ubuntu :)
[12:26] <`Lynx> even a hammer can break ubuntu
[12:26] <Triscar0> how do i set zoneminder to start auto on bootup ?
[12:26] <bazhang> PythonSnake, any actual support question?
[12:26] <dr_Willis> end users tend to break ubuntu
[12:26] <`Lynx> with a hammer
[12:27] <PythonSnake> bazhang: I've got a problem with function key.
[12:27] <Rebas> is there a way to set gnome to automatically log in as a user? in system->admin->login screen, i see "log in as" but it dosent show any usernames
[12:27] <bazhang> `Lynx, thats enough
[12:27] <PythonSnake> bazhang: I can't disable touchpad with fn+f9
[12:27] <`Lynx> it may be, since no one can handle my question
[12:28] <Drake|> Rebas: do you have more than one user account?
[12:28] <Rebas> no, just one
[12:29] <Drake|> then just mark login as.. and press ok
[12:29] <Rebas> ah
[12:29] <Drake|> ;)
[12:29] <Rebas> when theres more than one, you get to choose?
[12:29] <Drake|> yes thats right
[12:29] <Rebas> i see
[12:29] <PythonSnake> Does Ubuntu support multi-touch ?
[12:29] <Rebas> i was scratching my head for ages
[12:29] <dr_Willis> gdm has autologin swttings in a gdm config file also.
[12:30] <Drake|> Rebas: at least it used to be like that.. haven checked in 11.04
[12:30] <DarkKnightCZ> PythonSnake: afaik it does
[12:30] <Rebas> im on 10.04
[12:30] <`Lynx> quit lame channel, rage quit
[12:30] <Drake|> aah oeky.. should be fine there
[12:30] <dr_Willis> PythonSnake:  its a new feature. so nay not work for sll hardware. yet.
[12:30] <kalib> Does anyone has any idea about how can I callibrate a joystick DragonRise Inc (usb) on ubuntu?
[12:30] <kalib> 11.04
[12:31] <PythonSnake> How to configure touchpad for 3 fingers right click please ?
[12:31] <dr_Willis> there used to be some jscal tools in the repos kalib
[12:31] <Rebas> sorta related question.. is there a way to disable the password prompt when installing stuff? or would that be stupid :P
[12:32] <dr_Willis> Rebas:  leave it alone  :)
[12:32] <kalib> dr_Willis, I was trying jscal -s /dev/input/js0 but got no success.. maybe doing something wrong.. :/
[12:32] <Rebas> im gunna install ubuntu on a work computer, so instead of having 4 people having to write it down, id rather it gone ^^
[12:32] <dr_Willis> security is done in layers. thsts one layer
[12:33] <dr_Willis> why do all 4 need it
[12:33] <dr_Willis> sudo uses the users psssword
[12:33] <PythonSnake> Anyone know how to get 3 fingers right click for elantech ?
[12:33] <dr_Willis> if they have admin rights
[12:33] <Rebas> gunna be one user account, and we all use that
[12:34] <dr_Willis> Rebas:  why
[12:34] <Rebas> thats the master plan, anyway ^^
[12:34] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch#The_Wiki PythonSnake have a read
[12:35] <PythonSnake> bazhang: ok thanks
[12:35] <Rebas> just trying to save disk space really
[12:36] <dr_Willis> savings will probrly be minimal
[12:36] <dr_Willis> unless you are doing somthig spevial i dont see much to gain from it
[12:38] <anev> is it possible to convert a dmg to iso to burn on ubuntu?
[12:38] <PythonSnake> How to delete gnome ?
[12:38] <Lembam> Hiya. :-)
[12:38] <dr_Willis> PythonSnake:  and use what instead
[12:38] <PythonSnake> KDE
[12:38] <bazhang> !purekde > PythonSnake
[12:39] <dr_Willis> easier to just install both PythonSnake
[12:39] <sayz> PythonSnake: it's fatal error :-)
[12:39] <PythonSnake> I don't want to waste space
[12:39] <dr_Willis> then pick one at thw login screen
[12:39] <bazhang> PythonSnake, read the link then
[12:39] <PythonSnake> ok
[12:39] <dr_Willis> you have how much hd space?
[12:39] <sveinse> How can I create a debian package without any content (but with dependencies)? I know how to do that for a normal package, but I dont know how to build it without having any software to put into it. Any pointers please?
[12:40] <PythonSnake> about 98 gb for linux
[12:40] <dr_Willis> PythonSnake:  thats eniugh for every desktop and wm in the repos
[12:40] <bazhang> most packages as well
[12:40] <PythonSnake> how much space kde needs
[12:40] <dr_Willis> i got kde. kxde. gnome. and more on my 60gb
[12:40] <PythonSnake> ?
[12:41] <dr_Willis> perhaps 700 mb
[12:41] <dr_Willis> if that.. orob. much less
[12:41] <avernos> if i want to install gnome on server edition --> apt-get install gnome? isnt working
[12:41] <PythonSnake> but I'll get double apps
[12:41] <PythonSnake> like Konversation and Empathy
[12:41] <avernos> whats the name of gnome on the repos?
[12:42] <bazhang> PythonSnake, then read the link I sent you
[12:42] <dr_Willis> apt will tell you when you install the kubuntu-desktop package
[12:42] <PythonSnake> ok I'll try :)
[12:42] <bazhang> avernos, ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:42] <dr_Willis> you can mixx and match kde and gnome apps
[12:42] <PythonSnake> Thank
[12:42] <PythonSnake> mix and match ?
[12:43] <avernos> bazhang, ty!~~
[12:43] <dr_Willis> gnome apps run on kde.
[12:43] <warmek> ubuntu 11.10 sucks, you cant even change theme
[12:43] <Pici> warmek : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:43] <dr_Willis> a.nd visa versa
[12:44] <dr_Willis> its alpha release for a reason.
[12:44] <PythonSnake> Does KDE offer more functionality than GNOME ?
[12:45] <warmek> KDE offers every feature you want and dont want
[12:45] <dr_Willis> PythonSnake:  id say yes. its more complex also
[12:45] <warmek> KDE is pretty, but not very friendly
[12:45] <dr_Willis> and a different design goals
[12:45] <warmek> KDE is cluttered with useless shit that devs just add to masturbate
[12:45] <Rebas> lol
[12:45] <bazhang> warmek, watch the language and attitude
[12:45] <warmek> GNOME 2 is the best, GNOME 3 sucks
[12:45] <Peer1> hi, i installed the new version, ran updates and the new look desktop went away?
[12:46] <zamba> how can i test ntp without actually setting the date/time
[12:46] <Rebas> ima use that quote oneday warmek
[12:46] <Rebas> ^^
[12:46] <warmek> ok
[12:46] <warmek> unity sucks too
[12:46] <bazhang> !ot | warmek
[12:46] <warmek> gnome2 really is the best ever
[12:46] <Pici> !language | warmek
[12:46] <bazhang> warmek, thats enough
[12:46] <warmek> ok
[12:47] <warmek> maybe i need to skip 11.10
[12:47] <PythonSnake> !best | warmek
[12:47] <Rebas> im on gnone 2.3, thats the good one right?  The find command, can anyone help making one to remove all files found? :)
[12:48] <dr_Willis> lubuntu has gotten very well done if you want a more classic type desktop
[12:48] <Pici> johanhar: add the -delete argument.
[12:49] <PythonSnake> Does KDE have workspaces ?
[12:49] <dr_Willis> pyth
[12:49] <johanhar> Pici: thanks
[12:49] <dr_Willis> yes
[12:49] <bazhang> PythonSnake, try #kubuntu
[12:49] <PythonSnake> ok
[12:49] <PythonSnake> :)
[12:49] <dr_Willis> PythonSnake:  it has more feathers then wecan list
[12:49] <dr_Willis> lol typo
[12:50] <PythonSnake> ?
[12:50] <Rebas> feathers? lol
[12:50] <dr_Willis> more features
[12:50] <dr_Willis> auto soellcheck is fun
[12:50] <DOOD> bazhang,its me dood
[12:50] <DarkKnightCZ> so, can someone help me with that 5.1 problem?
[12:50] <xvilo> hi
[12:50] <Rebas> fails too, by the looks of it Willis. :P
[12:50] <xvilo> i dont have ubuntu
[12:51] <xvilo> but i want ubuntu
[12:51] <dr_Willis> android phone is lacking in ways as an irc cluent
[12:51] <bazhang> !install | xvilo
[12:51] <xvilo> niceee
[12:51] <xvilo> tnx
[12:51] <xvilo> !install | comics
[12:51] <Comics> i create cool comics
[12:52] <DOOD> bazhang, i done what u said but when i opened it on windows all comes out in encoded language  so now i'm downloading word so b 5mins thnx
[12:53] <violentk> i'm installing windows on a virtual hard drive, that is installed on a hard drive which windows cannot read
[12:53] <morth> hello room
[12:53] <dr0id> is there some kind of forcekill ? kill 5692 aint killing the pid
[12:53] <yubahaq> http://top-linx.cz.cc
[12:53] <PythonSnake> how to change theme with gnome ?
[12:53] <DOOD> bazhang, is that ok
[12:54] <dau_> try kill -9
[12:54] <morth> how can i understand this --geometry 200x60+80+40  "is 200x60 the size of the window and 80+40 is the resolution?
[12:54] <Rebas> System->Preferences->appearence, Python. looked in there?
[12:54] <dau_> kill -9 5692
[12:54] <DOOD> 5mins thnx
[12:54] <dr0id> dau_: thanks
[12:55] <PythonSnake> Rebas: Thanks
[12:55] <morth> how can i understand this --geometry 200x60+80+40  "is 200x60 the size of the window and 80+40 is the resolution?
[12:56] <PythonSnake> is there a kubuntu software center ?
[12:56] <dr-willis> x y coords to start   then the size from those points morth
[12:56] <PythonSnake> or anything similar to ubuntu software center for kubuntu ?
[12:56] <dr-willis> morth 0 0 is top left
[12:57] <dr-willis> PythonSnake all gnome stuff has kde. equils.
[12:57] <dr-willis> go try it...
[12:57] <PythonSnake> ok
[12:58] <morth> dr-willis is there a way i can calculate? - i want it for my bottom left corner over the menu
[12:58] <PythonSnake> if I install kde will gnome stuff appear on kde ?
[12:58] <dr-willis> yea
[12:58] <PythonSnake> so better remove gnome
[12:58] <dr-willis> and visa versa
[12:58] <PythonSnake> :)
[12:58] <dr-willis> n
[12:58] <Pici> PythonSnake: no need.
[12:58] <dr-willis> leave gnome installed
[12:58] <PythonSnake> I'll get double stuff
[12:59] <dr-willis> you havent evev trief kde yet.. go use it for a week
[12:59] <tsimpson> double? only one instance of each application will be installed at any time
[12:59] <dr-willis> so what.. big deal
[12:59] <PythonSnake> tsimpson: like emphaty and konversiation
[12:59] <dr-willis> use gnome app if you like the gnone editor or whatever better
[12:59] <tsimpson> PythonSnake: what's the big deal?
[13:00] <Peer1> did the new look desktop get rolled back in 11.04?
[13:00] <dr-willis> PythonSnake you are worring way too much
[13:00] <PythonSnake> lol
[13:00] <dr-willis> go use kde for a week
[13:00] <morth> dr-willis which part is the top left the 0x0 or 0+0?
[13:00] <PythonSnake> !kde
[13:00] <dr-willis> go read some kde guides
[13:01] <babu> how to delete the installation history that are showing in ubuntu software center
[13:01] <dr-willis> x. y. offset x. offset y.  i think
[13:01] <tsimpson> morth: it's <width>x<height>+<x>+<y>
[13:02] <dr-willis> not all wms follow thise options.
[13:02] <luxe> haihai.
[13:02] <tsimpson> it should just pass it along to X
[13:02] <dr-willis> old scool info heh.
[13:02] <morth> dr-wililis and tsimpson thankyou.
[13:03] <dr-willis> some wms have their own rules
[13:03] <dr-willis> bbl
[13:03] <van7hu> !funny
[13:05] <xro> Hi, is there a reference tutorial about security and apache server on ubuntu server 11.04 64bits ?
[13:05] <van7hu> !info funny
[13:05] <Pici> van7hu: what are you trying to do?
[13:06] <van7hu> Pici, just for fun
[13:06] <van7hu> !server|xro
[13:06] <abdoreza> Hi all.Can I move the Unity launcher?
[13:06] <Pici> van7hu: Please do not play with the bots here. Either /msg ubottu  or join #ubuntu-bots
[13:07] <van7hu> Pici, okay I'll move on
[13:07] <abdoreza> Can I move the Unity launcher?
 van7hu, it looks like your trying to be funny.. do you want to [A] get some help with that or [B] give up now? </clippy>
[13:09] <abdoreza> my ubuntu is large icon in the unity luncher
[13:09] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:10] <xro> van7hu, yes i did a mistake i use 10.04 not 11.04... But there is no apache security recommandations... is there something somewhere or not?
[13:10] <abdoreza> Can I move the Unity launcher?can I change icon size?
[13:12] <abdoreza> Can I move the Unity launcher?
[13:12] <Pici> !patience | abdoreza
[13:12] <stefan_> Hello, How can I check, if my W-LAN driver still works? I cannot see the nm-applet and in system networkwhatever, I cannot see my router either.
[13:12] <SUMUZHE> Is there a GEANT4 channel?
[13:13] <stefan_> I have already rebootet and thsi does not help.
[13:13] <Pici> !alis | SUMUZHE
[13:14] <aeiou_> looking for a terminal one-liner to check if a given port is open on a remote machine (without nmap)
[13:14] <aeiou_> whats the easiest way?
[13:14] <stefan_> I also deactivated the proprietara Broadcom W-LAN driver and reinstalled it, but it does not help either
[13:14] <podman99> hey all ... ubuntu 11.04 natty does not have any updates to apache from 2.2.17 - i need 2.2.18 to get past CVE-2011-0419 CVE-2011-1928 ?? any suggestions?
[13:14] <kkulhavy> aeiou_, telnet machine port
[13:15] <kkulhavy> aeiou_, i use that one
[13:15] <SUMUZHE> list geant
[13:15] <Pici> podman99: let me take a look, one moment.
[13:16] <G_Unit> quit
[13:17] <DASPRiD> will ther be an official update for thunderbird 5 like there was for firefox 5 or will we have to use the mozilla stable ppa?
[13:18] <violentk> running windows xp on virtual hard drive
[13:19] <violentk> which is installed on a hard drive that windows can't recognize
[13:19] <Pici> podman99: It looks like those CVEs only affected the apr package, not the apache2 package. More info can be seen at the following links (the usn reference links may be informative to you as well): http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-0419.html and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-1928.html
[13:19] <liberycrusier> hey is it possible to set a custom resolution with xrandr because my monitor won't display ubuntu properly with any of the provided modes yet xp works fine
[13:20] <podman99> Pici: PCI compliance requires apache version change??
[13:20] <PythonSnake> liberycrusier: yes
[13:21] <liberycrusier> PythonSnake: how?
[13:21] <ikonia> podman99: which alert are you wondering requires an apache update for pci complience
[13:21] <PythonSnake> liberycrusier: pm
[13:22] <podman99> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/634984/
[13:23] <ikonia> podman99: the two CVE's you posted in this channel don't require an update, the APR issue is isolated to APR which has been patched, ubuntu ships that as a seperate package, so no apache upgrade/update is needed
[13:23] <podman99> ikonia,
[13:23] <podman99> ikonia, this would suggest that PCI compliance is wrong?/inaccurate?
[13:24] <darkenergy> hey, any documents that's more definitive than the man pages?
[13:24] <darkenergy> documents/books/guides etc
[13:24] <ikonia> podman99: apr is a part of apache, so in essense the "apache" package needs to be updates/patched, however ubuntu ships apr as a sperate package, which complies the the CVE, so falls in with complience
[13:25] <podman99> ikonia, this may be the case however pci compliance is not passing on the site, perhaps hide apache version number? would this bypass this check.
[13:25] <Pici> darkenergy: http://ubuntu-manual.org/ and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community and http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/
[13:26] <ikonia> podman99: no, that would be miss-information, you need to submit an exception to the process detailing the apr version/patch level
[13:26] <em> darkenergy: I don't know about more definitive but maybe more helpful -- https://help.ubuntu.com/
[13:26] <ikonia> podman99: however not advertising the apache version is a valid security process also
[13:26] <darkenergy> em, i guess not definitive... but maybe more clear :)
[13:27] <darkenergy> or yeah.. helpful :D
[13:27] <darkenergy> pici, em, thanks
[13:27] <em> darkenergy: yeah exactly. I dont really enjoy reading the man pages myself. I don't think they are really made to learn from.
[13:27] <em> they are easier to read once you already kind of know a lot about what it's talking about.
[13:27] <darkenergy> em, exactly
[13:27] <dr-willis> man pages are for referance.
[13:28] <darkenergy> dr-willis, just what i was about to say. trying to learn how to chroot is quite hard with man page at least for me
[13:28] <Pici> !chroot | darkenergy this should be helpful
[13:28] <dr-willis> i used to have a thick thick book of them printed out years ago
[13:29] <dr-willis> redhat used to sell one.  good dry reading
[13:29] <darkenergy> dr-willis, the man pages? or some other source of commands, etc?
[13:29] <dr-willis> man pages..
[13:29] <em> It would be neat if Ubuntu had a detailed manual that explained everything sort of the way I think FreeBSD does. But I guess that might be hard with every new releaes.
[13:29] <darkenergy> yeah.. that's what I was thinking. I'm aware of that one. I actually think there's another floating around out there.
[13:30] <dr-willis> ubuntu changes so much gui wise. but good docs for the underlaying stuff is good for a long time
[13:31] <podman99> ikonia, I will call PCI compliance people here and see what info I can squeeze from them
[13:31] <podman99> ikonia, thanks for the help
[13:31] <dr-willis> i saw some ok unity docs online... somewhere..
[13:32] <ikonia> podman99: should be a simple exception to raise, just give the APR version against that CVE - the test is flawed
[13:32] <ikonia> podman99: I've just done the same for an openssh vunerability on redhat that had the fix back ported
[13:33] <em> If you are an expert helper in here and you see an easy question you should wait 20 extra seconds so that novice helpers have a chance to help.
[13:33] <tsimpson> em: that's not really helpful
[13:34] <Skeeter-> how can i determine the size of my md0 in order to make a lvm with the right size
[13:34] <ikonia> em: anyone can answer if they no the answer, it's not a .....
[13:34] <ikonia> sorry, tsimpson got there
[13:34] <susundberg> em: .. and after that 20s ask the proper question? ;)
[13:34] <em> susundberg: hehe
[13:35] <em> ikonia: see if tsimpson had waited 20 seconds you could have felt more useful :)
[13:35] <ikonia> em: sorry, I half way through typing, it wasn't a double tap
[13:36] <FrEaKmAn_> hi, I'm trying to remove old image  - 2.6.31-21 but I can find it in Synaptic package manager
[13:36] <escott> Skeeter-, it should be listed in /proc/partitions. i believe the units there are blocks (4k usually)
[13:36] <FrEaKmAn_> cant*
[13:37] <Core> Can somebody tell me a good place for support with ubuntu server ?
[13:37] <em> FrEaKmAn_: that is probably in boot
[13:37] <Pici> Core: Either here or #ubuntu-server
[13:37] <em> try cd /boot
[13:37] <Skeeter-> FrEaKmAn_, wats the calcul to get the right number then?
[13:38] <Core> Well I am having problems getting busybox + dropbear running on my encrypted server
[13:38] <susundberg> Skeeter-: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/createlv.html
[13:38] <Klavier> i activated serial ata raid drivers, but after installation finish, ubuntu couldnt boot
[13:38] <Klavier> i cannot see grub
[13:38] <FrEaKmAn_> em, its there yes.. whats the best way to remove it
[13:38] <FrEaKmAn_> Skeeter-, what?
[13:38] <Klavier> i installed grub to mbr
[13:38] <em> FrEaKmAn_: then when you are in /boot$  do ls and look for it. Then use rm to get rid of the ones you want to get rid of.
[13:38] <Skeeter-> it doesnt make sense
[13:39] <Skeeter-><PHONE_NUMBER>0
[13:39] <FrEaKmAn_> em, its so simple.. great
[13:39] <tsimpson> FrEaKmAn_: check if you have linux-image-2.6.31-21-generic, if not then it's will be safe to just rm it
[13:39] <guiledazimba> Have some program to implement a firewall? some easy to manage and no coding needs?
[13:39] <tk> ?
[13:39] <em> FrEaKmAn_: I don't think that will hurt as long as you aren't using the one you want to get rid of.
[13:39] <Pici> !firewall | guiledazimba
[13:39] <bazhang> guiledazimba, gufw
[13:40] <em> !-firewall
[13:41] <Rebas> So.. i installed KDE... how do i get onto it?
[13:41] <bazhang> Rebas, choose at login
[13:41] <Skeeter-> FrEaKmAn_, im suppose to have near 18tb and i get<PHONE_NUMBER>0 block...
[13:41] <tsimpson> Rebas: there will be an option in the login menu
[13:41] <Rebas> nope
[13:41] <tsimpson> Rebas: how did you install KDE then?
[13:41] <bazhang> Rebas, installed what package exactly
[13:42] <Rebas> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:42] <em> Rebas: Did you install kubuntu-desktop ?
[13:42] <em> Rebas: then there should be an option at your login.
[13:42] <FrEaKmAn_> Skeeter-, wrong guy?
[13:42] <spectacular> after upgrading ubuntu, my monitor seems only able to do 4:3 (1024x768), while it should be 1280x800 (it's a BenQ Joybook laptop). In the displays thing in the drop down menu, it only shows 4:3 options.  help?
[13:42] <bazhang> Rebas, its there, choose a nick then choose it
[13:42] <Skeeter-> FrEaKmAn_,<PHONE_NUMBER>0/1024/1024/1024 = 18.18tb, its aight :)
[13:42] <Rebas> nope, i get the propmt for my password, but nothing else
[13:43] <Rebas> i just logs into the same place it did before
[13:43] <Rebas> only change is the mouse is pointier
[13:43] <PythonSnake> spectacular: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[13:44] <bazhang> Rebas, bottom panel look there
[13:44] <tsimpson> Rebas: there should be an option in the menu on the login screen, before login
[13:44] <Rebas> ill have another look...
[13:44] <Pici> Rebas: There should be a Session menu at the bottom of the login screen where you can choose whatever desktop environments you have installed.
[13:44] <Thraspic> I would like my terminal (urxvt) to have a blinking cursor even when its window does not have focus.  Using openbox, if that's any help.
[13:44] <em> Rebas: you can probably just go up to the power icon in ubuntu and select Switch From Rebas..
[13:45] <Luxe> 0.0
[13:45] <Rebas> ok, i saw it, selected KDE; and ended back up in gnome
[13:45] <Luxe> Murr :c
[13:47] <Rebas> nope, just did it again. ended back up in gnome
[13:47] <Rebas> even though i selected KDE
[13:48] <rnz> hi all
[13:48] <rnz> how to install apt-get without extra packages
[13:48] <rnz> ?
[13:48] <bazhang> rnz, apt-get is there already
[13:49] <rnz>  apt-get : how to install package without extra packages
[13:49] <Rebas> any ideas bazhang? 3 times it gone to gnome when i select KDE
[13:49] <compdoc> dont know what you mean by extra packages
[13:49] <Rebas> do i have to completely log out?
[13:50] <Rebas> or can i use "switch user" and use KDE that way
[13:50] <spectacular> PythonSnake, thanks.  i'm trying to follow the instructions there, but running into problems.  are you familiar with xrandr ?
[13:50] <little> how to format xml
[13:50] <little> ?
[13:50] <PythonSnake> spectacular: yes
[13:50] <ikonia> little: you need to read about XML it's just a markup, like html for example
[13:50] <spectacular> okay, so let me show it to you step by step,
[13:51] <PythonSnake> spectacular: helping someone with xrandr atm too
[13:51] <little> hmm ikonia
[13:51] <PythonSnake> spectacular: pm me
[13:51] <spectacular> PythonSnake, thanks
[13:51] <bazhang> PythonSnake, please help here
[13:51] <PythonSnake> bazhang ?
[13:51] <Pici> !pm
[13:52] <rnz> "extra packages" - http://pastebin.com/jpJwasCh
[13:52] <DOOD> bazhan,need ur help
[13:52] <spectacular> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[13:52] <spectacular> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[13:52] <spectacular> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[13:52] <spectacular>    1024x768       61.0*
[13:52] <spectacular>    800x600        61.0
[13:52] <spectacular>    640x480        60.0
[13:52] <FloodBot1> spectacular: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <Rebas> lol
[13:53] <DOOD> bazhang,on psate.ubuntu.com what syntax should i put it as ??
[13:53] <DOOD> paste
[13:53] <bazhang> DOOD, output from lsusb
[13:54] <DOOD> ok
[13:54] <DrManhattan> ok so out of curiosity is ubuntu in classic gnome mode running gnome 2?
[13:54] <bazhang> yes
[13:54] <DOOD> bazhang,pasted it
[13:54] <bazhang> DOOD, give the url
[13:55] <DOOD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/634994/
[13:55] <DrManhattan> so what would be the difference between running ubuntu 11 in classic gnome mode and linux mint?
[13:55] <Pici> DrManhattan: Yes.
[13:55] <em> rnz: I wonder if you want to not install the recommended packages.
[13:55] <sudokill> DrManhattan, mint is a little bit different
[13:56] <DOOD>  bazhang,so what do u say
[13:56] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748136 DOOD
[13:56] <em> rnz: that would be apt-get install --no-install-recommends
[13:57] <Aggaranvoth> Test message
[13:57] <bazhang> Aggaranvoth, success
[13:57] <em> rnz: to see if that's really what you want you could try:  apt-get install --no-install-recommends --simulate
[13:57] <Aggaranvoth> Thank you bazhang!
[13:57] <em> then see if it does what you wanted.
[13:57] <danie955> is there a program to sync folders ( i would like to sync the music folder on my droids sd to my music folder on my computer)
[13:57] <compdoc> DrManhattan, not sure whats in mint, but I doubt it has everything ubunut has, like qemu-kvm, etc
[13:57] <em> danie955: there's rsync
[13:57] <jrib> danie955: rsync or unison
[13:58] <anev> gcc -o dmg2img dmg2img.o base64.o -L. -lz
[13:58] <anev> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz
[13:58] <anev> -lz flag is for zlib, right?
[13:58] <violentk> does it being an acer have anything to do with it
[13:58] <danie955> jrib, wicth one is more user friendly ?
[13:58] <em> !info rsync | danie955
[13:58] <em> danie955: everyone always talks about rsync
[13:58] <jrib> danie955: rsync is probably a better option for the scenario you described
[13:59] <droid> unison if more for simpiker user needs
[13:59] <Rebas> anyone got any ideas on how to get into KDE when it keeps logging into gnome when i select KDE?
[13:59] <droid> its a handy tool in some cases
[13:59] <em> Rebas: Im afraid I'm at a loss. Try restarting completely and choosing the KDE session from the start.
[14:00] <tsimpson> anev: you need the -dev package zlib1g-dev
[14:00] <DOOD> bazhang i think i need tour help
[14:00] <em> maybe something needs to be restarted after you install kubuntu-desktop (dunno)
[14:00] <Rebas> ive already done a restart after installing
[14:00] <DOOD> ur
[14:00] <Rebas> but ill try again
[14:00] <glontu> hi
[14:00] <em> Well that's probably not it then. Sorry I don't know.
[14:01] <DOOD> so bazhang
[14:01] <em> Rebas: maybe you could try asking in #kubuntu they have maybe seen the problem before.
[14:01] <DOOD> bazhang,hello
[14:01] <bazhang> DOOD, follow the guide, ask questions if you have issues
[14:02] <DOOD> bazhang, idont have that model stick
[14:02] <glontu> i am trying to make a linux router with 2 wan interfaces. i have eth0, eth1 and eth2, eth1 and eth2 are each connected to a wan ( actually both wan gateways are in the same LAN but have different ips and subnets )
[14:02] <upside> anyone got any idea how to solve the API mismatch between nvidia and the kernel module???
[14:02] <bazhang> DOOD, exact same chipset
[14:02] <em> upside has a question no one needs to wait 20 seconds to answer.
[14:03] <glontu> problem is that eth1 dosn't work well. If i plug out the wire from it while pinging some ip it sits there for a while and after that and then i get destination host unreachable
[14:03] <bazhang> em, no need for the meta-commentary
[14:03] <glontu> on eth2 if i plug out the wire it waits and when i put it back it just starts responding to pings right away
[14:03] <glontu> how can i make eth1 be like eth2 ?
[14:03] <rnz> em: tnx!
[14:03] <em> rnz: you are very welcome.
[14:04] <DOOD> bazhang, when i download some software from the internet what operating system do i choose
[14:04] <bazhang> DOOD, for what
[14:04] <Rebas> did it
[14:04] <DOOD> for ubuntu
[14:04] <gry> http://codepad.org/xB003VC6 ?
[14:04] <Rebas> restarted and it worked
[14:04] <Rebas> thanks em
[14:05] <DOOD> bazhang,for ubuntu
[14:05] <bazhang> gry, some context please
[14:05] <bazhang> DOOD, what software, from where
[14:05] <em> Rebas: that's awesome. I'm glad I could help.
[14:05] <DOOD> li vnc
[14:05] <gry> http://codepad.org/xB003VC6 <-- didn't really do anything myself, mysql is misbehaving though, keeps restarting; the paste is the error log
[14:05] <bazhang> !software | DOOD please have a read
[14:05] <DOOD> bazhang,like vnc
[14:05] <em> I'm glad I could help some people out in here. My meta-commentary not with standing. I don't feel like bazhang wants me to talk though so i'll leave for now.
[14:06] <Rebas> after all that, i decided i didnt really like the KDE layout, so meh :P
[14:06] <tilted> In 10.04, on the Appearance preferences, there was a tab for Visual Effects and I would select "None" on this machine.  I want to do the same for 11.04 under Ubuntu Classic, but the Visual Effects option isn't there.  Is there a way to turn them off?
[14:06] <Rebas> but thanks for the help there
[14:06] <gry> tilted, yes - just select classic (no effects) option in login screen
[14:06] <mobodo> if I am an AMD64 installation of ubuntu, can I expect it to work fine on a new x64 host? Basically, I want to know if I can just swap the hard drive...
[14:07] <tilted> gry, thanks I'll try it
[14:07] <gry> ok
[14:07] <DOOD> bazhang,sorry 4 all the trouble
[14:07] <compdoc> mobodo, linux often works fine if you swap motherbaords
[14:07] <gry> compdoc: :)
[14:08] <bazhang> DOOD, no trouble. software should be installed from ubuntu software repositories (software warehouses of a sort) not 3rd party website, almost without exception
[14:08] <DOOD> bazhang,thanks man
[14:08] <mobodo> compdoc: alright thanks!
[14:08] <Luxe> I need to fap -.-
[14:08] <Rebas> lol
[14:08] <bazhang> !manual | DOOD this may help
[14:08] <bazhang> Luxe, stop that
[14:09] <Rebas> win ^
[14:09] <bazhang> !wiki | DOOD and this as well
[14:09] <iridium> Luxe, great time to start
[14:09] <gry> Nice everyday tasks list :-p
[14:10] <Luxe> -.-
[14:10] <bazhang> Luxe, ?
[14:10] <Luxe> I was being honest :/
[14:10] <iridium> Luxe, do you crontab it?
[14:10] <DOOD> bazhang,thanks a very very very lot
[14:10] <mobodo> compdoc: do you know if the drives preserve their uid from one motherboard to another?
[14:10] <Luxe> Of course.
[14:11] <Luxe> I post it on facebook, twitter, and tumblr as well :P
[14:11] <bazhang> !ot | Luxe iridium
[14:11] <Luxe> -.-
[14:11] <compdoc> mobodo, I think drives preserve the uuid until you format them
[14:11] <sk_> somebody here?
[14:12] <gry> yes sk_
[14:12] <Rebas> no :P
[14:12] <bazhang> sk_, yes
[14:12] <punkinhell> hey, how do i mpunt my drives automatically at bootup instead of manually doing them??????????????
[14:12] <rnz> em: sorry but no - "--no-install-recommends"
[14:12] <Rebas> were all figments of your imagination, sk_
[14:12] <bazhang> punkinhell, in fstab
[14:12] <mobodo> punkinhell: it's in your fstab (/etc)
[14:12] <bazhang> !fstab | punkinhell
[14:12] <punkinhell> ok
[14:13] <sk_> do the linux in vm need display drives?
[14:13] <bazhang> sk_, no
[14:13] <ikonia> sk_: they use a virtual graphics card which is quite generic
[14:14] <rnz> apt-get: how to ignore unmet packages
[14:14] <rnz> &
[14:14] <rnz> ?
[14:14] <ikonia> rnz: that's not something you want to really do
[14:14] <ikonia> rnz: what is failing for you ?
[14:14] <Rebas> we need to make a !apt-get command just for rnz :P
[14:14] <coz_> rnz,  what does the readout say exactly
[14:15] <rnz> http://pastebin.com/dLdVp62b
[14:16] <coz_> rnz,  ok did you try the  sudo apt-get install -f   command with that...yes?
[14:16] <ikonia> rnz: I suspect you have a PPA configured that is causing a problem
[14:16] <ikonia> !info chef-server-api
[14:16] <DOOD> bazhag,i forgot to tell u that i had no drivers installed
[14:16] <ikonia> rnz: what repo did you enable to install chef-server-api
[14:17] <Pici> ikonia: I see it in Maverick/universe only.
[14:17] <ikonia> Pici: thnaks, hence why the bot can't see it
[14:17] <sar_> hi everyone
[14:17] <DOOD> bazhag, when iput the cd in it says windows or linux so which one do ichoose
[14:17] <rnz> i know, but i need install chef-server-api without depens
[14:17] <Ghost|BTFH> Hey sar
[14:17] <ikonia> rnz: what repo did you enable to install chef-server-api-#maverick
[14:18] <ikonia> rnz: oops, sorry
[14:18] <ikonia> !info chef-server-api-##maverick
[14:18] <ikonia> !info chef-server-api #maverick
[14:18] <neo21_> is this the right room for ubuntu server related questions, too?
[14:18] <sar_> where can I fined xfree86 file in ubuntu
[14:18] <duffo_> hey
[14:18] <Pici> neo21_: Here or #ubuntu-server
[14:18] <nerdshell> How to shadow the password file please ?
[14:18] <ikonia> neo21_: here or #ubuntu-server
[14:18] <ikonia> nerdshell: it's already done by default
[14:18] <rnz> http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Package+Installation+on+Debian+and+Ubuntu
[14:18] <nerdshell> ikonia: sure ?
[14:18] <duffo_> trying to install 2.6.39 kernel on 11.04 minimal
[14:18] <ikonia> nerdshell: %100
[14:18] <sar_> i know
[14:18] <neo21_> ok thanks...will check ubuntu-server ;-)
[14:18] <ikonia> duffo_: not a good idea,
[14:19] <ikonia> duffo_: why do you ned the .39 kernel ?
[14:19] <DOOD> bazhang,i forgot to tell u that i had no drivers installed
[14:19] <nerdshell> ikonia: thanks ;), what does it do exactly, I mean, what's the use of it ?
[14:19] <old> i do.
[14:19] <sar_> because i want to modfy the file
[14:19] <duffo_> it supports vaapi on my motherboard
[14:19] <DOOD> bazhang, when iput the cd in it says windows or linux so which one do ichoose
[14:19] <Pici> !who
[14:19] <ikonia> nerdshell: security
[14:19] <bazhang> DOOD, whats the cd
[14:20] <nerdshell> ikonia: yeah, I guess, could you give more details please ?
[14:20] <DOOD> bazhang, what do u mean
[14:20] <duffo_> anyways im getting package not found
[14:20] <compdoc> ubottu, marry me
[14:20] <martian> I'm trying to remove all the packages that were brought in via the ubuntu-desktop meta package, but removing it (and I've tried removing xserver-xorg as well) still won't get apt to remove all GUI stuff from this install. Is there another way?
[14:20] <bazhang> DOOD, when you put in the cd <--- what cd
[14:20] <Rebas> lol compdoc
[14:20] <ikonia> nerdshell: plenty on the internet, if you've done enough research to want to enable it (even though it's enabled) you should know what it does before wanting to enable it
[14:20] <duffo_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[14:20] <duffo_> works
[14:21] <DOOD> bazhang, wireless network stick driver cd
[14:21] <olds> are you like work
[14:21] <bazhang> DOOD, then you are not following the ubuntuforums link I gave you
[14:21] <duffo_> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet linux-headers-2.6.39-0
[14:21] <duffo_> E: Kunde inte hitta något paket enligt reguljära uttrycket "linux-headers-2.6.39-0"
[14:22] <gry> olds: excuse me?
[14:22] <duffo_> when i do : sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.39-0 linux-headers-2.6.39-0-generic linux-image-2.6.39-0-generic --fix-missing
[14:22] <bazhang> olds, ubuntu support issue?
[14:22] <DOOD> bazhang,i have just read through them all and i realized that they had the drivers installed
[14:22] <Rebas> interesting entrance there, olds
[14:23] <pietr101> hey, is it possible to run ubuntu from SD card?
[14:23] <olds> yes
[14:23] <rnz> people - so, how about - apt-get install package without all depens?
[14:23] <DOOD> bazhang, i have just read through them all and i realized that they had the drivers installed
[14:23] <Rebas> if nthe storagr is big enough, it should do, pietr101
[14:23] <bazhang> DOOD, so you are set, great
[14:24] <Rebas> wow, typing fails
[14:24] <coz_> rnz,   not sure why you want to install this wihtout it's dependencies!  even that link you showed suggests with depends
[14:24] <bazhang> pietr101, yes but slower obviously
[14:24] <pietr101> Rabas: what kind of SD card do you recommend?
[14:24] <olds> learning english
[14:25] <pietr101> i need to do it this way, because i don't have enough sata ports for raid and distro
[14:25] <DOOD> bazhang,they have the drivers installed but i dont
[14:25] <Rebas> uhm, one with the minimum requirements to run from USB, i believe 2gb space. pietr101
[14:25] <coz_> rnz,  however,, if you want to try  ##linux   channel ,, maybe they have a suggestion
[14:25] <Rebas> otherwise, no idea
[14:25] <DOOD> bazhang, they have the drivers installed but i dont
[14:25] <DOOD> #
[14:26] <DOOD> ]#
[14:26] <pietr101> Rabas: ok, thank you
[14:26] <bazhang> DOOD, no idea what you mean. there is no CD in the guide I gave you. since you are not following it, I cannot help you further
[14:27] <DOOD> bazhang, they have already installed the drivers
[14:28] <Rebas> pietr101: ive seen people have ubuntu installed on USB drives, but never done it myself. bu id imagine having a largeish storage is the only requirment. and that the computer can boot from USB (then have the SD card in a USB reader)
[14:28] <DOOD> bazhang, and by the way i have to reboot and select ubuntu
[14:28] <ikonia> DOOD: could you try to clarify your issue a little better
[14:29] <Loreley> Hello! After leaving my notebook for a few minutes, it got black and I could not restart the monitor. No pressing the power key or the mouse buttons or on the keyboard could help. That is why I had to make a Hardreset. This has now happened a few times and I would like to ask for help concerning this issue. Maybe one can have a look at my /var/log/dmesg.0 and the .xsession-errors.old? The problem happend before my last boot. I do not under
[14:29] <Loreley> stand these logfiles :( Thank you very much http://pastebin.com/Msnq5WvK  http://pastebin.com/Dc6wGxrG
[14:29] <DOOD> bazhang, bye 4 now
[14:29] <Syniq> Does anyone in here know how to get 11.04 to boot on an i3 iMac? :/
[14:30] <em> DOOD - please no meta-comments.
[14:30] <pietr101> Rabas: hmm, I wonder how slower it would run
[14:31] <Syniq> em: Bit late. He already quit.
[14:31] <em> Syniq: thank you, but please no meta-comments from you either.
[14:31] <rnz> coz_ thanks... will seek further...
[14:31] <gluesniffmonkey> I had a powercut and my computer is now frozen on "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode"
[14:31] <tsimpson> em: please stop
[14:31] <gluesniffmonkey> How do I get to a terminal?
[14:32] <ikonia> em: ok - enough now
[14:32] <Syniq> em: Having a bad day?
[14:32] <pietr101> Rabas: actually mdadm (my software RAID) work with partitions too. That kinda solves my probem :D
[14:32] <Rebas> pietr101: that would depend on the transfer rate of the SD card. higher end card would have better rates, and therefore be faster
[14:32] <coz_> gluesniffmonkey,  try alt+F2  type in gnome-terminal
[14:32] <ikonia> Syniq: drop it - it all stops now,
[14:32] <bazhang> gluesniffmonkey, ctrl alt t
[14:32] <Syniq> ikonia: "Please"?
[14:33] <gluesniffmonkey> coz_, need to be logged in for that
[14:33] <sfdsg> hi, i tried with ntfs and still cant transfer files successfully
[14:33] <Rebas> cool command coz_
[14:33] <sfdsg> it says Operation not supported
[14:33] <Syniq> Considering I just joined, and have apparently walked into an on-going rant.
[14:33] <Rebas> ill remember that one
[14:33] <sfdsg> can somebody help?
[14:33] <gluesniffmonkey> bazhang, not working
[14:33] <bazhang> gluesniffmonkey, please give some context
[14:33] <ikonia> Syniq: it doesn't help to fuel it - it stops now
[14:33] <Rebas> bazhang: <gluesniffmonkey> I had a powercut and my computer is now frozen on "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode"
[14:33] <bazhang> Rebas, thanks
[14:34] <Syniq> Anyway.
[14:34] <gluesniffmonkey> When booting up it freezes at this point
[14:34] <Rebas> dunno, but that seems like context :P
[14:34] <gluesniffmonkey> has to do with Nvidia
[14:34] <Soothsayer> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:34] <Syniq> Anyone tried running 11.04 on an iMac and got a blank screen?
[14:34] <Soothsayer> why is this happening?
[14:34] <bazhang> gluesniffmonkey, so install the nvidia drivers yet?
[14:34] <coz_> Soothsayer,   is synaptic opened?
[14:34] <bazhang> Soothsayer, another instance of apt
[14:34] <ikonia> Syniq: when you said i3 earlier did you mean the intel i3 chip, or the mac generation 3 PPC ?
[14:35] <Syniq> ikonia: Intel i3, sorry.
[14:35] <ikonia> Syniq: is it the model with the ATI card ? (I suspect it's the old ati bug)
[14:35] <Rebas> gluesniffmonkey: is this a builtin graphics adapter? (ie on monterboard) or a plug in one ( like in the PCI slot) ? if its built PCI, try disabling it in the bios, and put the cable on the inbuilt one
[14:36] <Syniq> ikonia: I think it's 32-bit, but both the 32- and 64-bit LiveCDs do the same thing.
[14:36] <gluesniffmonkey> on an iMac
[14:36] <Rebas> ah :P
[14:36] <ikonia> Syniq: no, I mean what model video card is it, I suspect it's an ATI
[14:36] <LjL> Syniq, no clue about macintoshes, but i don't think it's supposed to require more than inserting the cd and installing
[14:36] <Syniq> ikonia: Hmm... Possibly. I'm not actually sure. Its OS was royally buggered, so I've got no ieda what's in it beyond the processor.
[14:36] <LjL> Syniq: oh sorry i was scrolled up, missed the blank screen thing
[14:36] <ikonia> LjL: there is a model with the ati card in which falls into the ati black screen trap
[14:36] <Syniq> ikonia: Yes, I was in the middle of typing that when you responded. ;)
[14:36] <ikonia> Syniq: what size is it, 15'' or 17''
[14:37] <Syniq> 21". :p  It's an iMac, not a MacBook Pro.
[14:37] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[14:37] <ikonia> Syniq: let me see if I can find the models with the ati's
[14:37] <Syniq> No worries. :)
[14:37] <Rebas> gluesniffmonkey: sorry, im not at all familiar with any apple models, so i cant really help more on that
[14:37] <ikonia> Syniq: it's worth trying to install it from the alternative CD which doesn't use a full on desktop gui for the intstaller
[14:38] <ikonia> Syniq: it's easier to fix on an intalled system, than a livecd
[14:38] <Syniq> ikonia: I can imagine...
[14:38] <gluesniffmonkey> It used to be ctl alt backspace
[14:38] <ikonia> Syniq: is it possible to try installing with the alternative cd ?
[14:38] <Syniq> If I can find it, yes.
[14:39] <Syniq> I've got about 5 blank CDRs left. :p
[14:39] <Rebas> ^^
[14:39] <Syniq> Used three already - 64- and 32-bit, and one duff. :p
[14:39] <cnf> how do I get a new ubuntu install to install the exact same package versions as my server?
[14:40] <Rebas> cnf: what version is the server?
[14:40] <cnf> Rebas: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[14:41] <gr4viton> zdarec
[14:41] <CarlFK> cnf: I am guessing your server isn't up to date?
[14:41] <cnf> and it only gets security updates applied
[14:41] <gr4viton> i mean hi
[14:41] <Loreley> Hello! After leaving my notebook for a few minutes, it got black and I could not restart the monitor. No pressing the power key or the mouse buttons or on the keyboard could help. That is why I had to make a Hardreset. This has now happened a few times and I would like to ask for help concerning this issue. Maybe one can have a look at my /var/log/dmesg.0 and the .xsession-errors.old? The problem happend before my last boot. I do not under
[14:41] <Loreley> stand these logfiles :( Thank you very much http://pastebin.com/Msnq5WvK  http://pastebin.com/Dc6wGxrG
[14:41] <cnf> CarlFK: it's probably not far off atm, but it will run out of date. i'm looking for a way to keep dev environments in sync with the server
[14:42] <phaidros> hi, am having troubles (since ages) with my intel on board graphics card, (thinkpad x60s, Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller, Ubuntu 11.04), glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled, but no hardware acceleration available o.O
[14:42] <Rebas> all i could suggest is installing Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS Server edition, if there is one, cnf
[14:42] <Rebas> only looked in passing when i got 10.04 for my laptop
[14:42] <Syniq> Aha
[14:42] <cnf> CarlFK: specifically versions for apache,php and mysql ^^;
[14:42] <Syniq> ikonia: If I add radeon.modeset=0 nomodeset to the default boot options, it works.
[14:42] <Syniq> Although that splash screen is really ugly.
[14:43] <CarlFK> cnf: gotcha.  not as bad as I thought - I was affraid you were trying to track down a bug that goes away if you update.
[14:43] <ikonia> Syniq: that ties in with the ati bug
[14:43] <torturedsoul> hi
[14:43] <Syniq> ikonia: Yeah, so it is a horrible mutant machine after all.
[14:43] <Rebas> lol
[14:43] <Syniq> I hate ATI hardware.  It's all rubbish.
[14:43] <torturedsoul> any1 know the correct way to boot ubuntu from usb?
[14:43] <cnf> CarlFK: nono, nothing like that ^^;
[14:43] <CarlFK> cnf:  I guess you can install from cd and apply security updates.
[14:43] <ikonia> Syniq: easy to fix post install, so hang in
[14:43] <Rebas> welcome to mac, Syniq?
[14:43] <Rebas> :P
[14:43] <torturedsoul> i've tried several times to boot new ubuntu but fail
[14:43] <Syniq> Rebas: Real Macs have nVIDIA, kthx.
[14:43] <Syniq> This one's obviously a cheapy one.
[14:44] <ikonia> Syniq: the higherend ones come with ati
[14:44] <Rebas> :P
[14:44] <cnf> CarlFK: is there no way to tell apt to install specific versions in a config file?
[14:44] <Syniq> ikonia: Lies.
[14:44] <SuiZiD> hi
[14:44] <gr4viton> I need to kick a little.. i just read some regex tutors.. but if I for example need to use it with the mkdir, what's the syntax?   I mean how to spell    $ mkdir "/dir [0-9]/"
[14:44] <torturedsoul> need bootable ubuntu usb stick
[14:44] <Rebas> truths :P
[14:44] <Syniq> The Mac Pros we have upstairs are all nVIDIA.
[14:44] <torturedsoul> i got a 4gb sandisk and the new ubuntu iso
[14:44] <Rebas> toturedsoul: on the ubuntu websiet, you can download Ubuntu for USB
[14:44] <Slart> torturedsoul: I've done it a couple of times.. I used the wizard-thing on ubuntu.com and just inserted the usb stick, rebooted and used the "select which boot device to boot from" menu from the bios
[14:44] <phaidros> cnf: dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections might help, if I understood your question correctly
[14:45] <coz_> torturedsoul,  you can also try unetbootin
[14:45] <torturedsoul> rebas i did download the iso from the website
[14:45] <Rebas> make sure you bios can boot from removable devices
[14:45] <Syniq> Oh, FFS. It went black after the splash screen this time. :(
[14:45] <CarlFK> cnf: i think you can tell apt to pin a version, but I have no idea how to get all the versions installed on the server.  sounds like lots of work. (
[14:45] <torturedsoul> it can
[14:45] <cnf> phaidros: lemme read up on that
[14:45] <Syniq> Right, yet another LiveCD download to do
[14:45] <torturedsoul> i tried pendrivelinux
[14:45] <CarlFK> cnf: but I have never dug into it - I just update everything and hope for the best :)
[14:45] <torturedsoul> didnt work
[14:45] <Rebas> theres an .exe wizard to install on the ubuntu webstite, torturedsoul
[14:45] <torturedsoul> then i tried flashboot
[14:45] <cnf> last time i did this it was with portage, which lets you specify exact version numbers in a config file
[14:45] <phaidros> cnf: you are interested in specific version? try debtrack, it can create so called package snapshots, I believe including versions, but never used my self yet, tho ..
[14:45] <Rebas> from there you can configure the USB
[14:45] <coz_> torturedsoul,  try  unetbootin     install it
[14:46] <CarlFK> cnf: just run trunk everything, then you know for sure the results: ka-boom!
[14:46] <torturedsoul> ok
[14:46] <cnf> phaidros: also looking into that
[14:46] <torturedsoul> unetbootin from website
[14:46] <shomon> hi, on the newest ubuntu, the window manager sometimes dies. So all the window decorations and buttons go... How do you restart it?
[14:46] <phaidros> any hints on 11.04 and intel graphix with no accel?
[14:46] <coz_> torturedsoul,  from repository
[14:46] <shomon> apart from logging out and then back in
[14:46] <coz_> torturedsoul,  sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[14:46] <coz_> torturedsoul,  also there is the minimal install cd
[14:46] <torturedsoul> im not running linux now
[14:46] <torturedsoul> im on windows
[14:46] <coz_> torturedsoul,  oh,,, try the mini cd  its only 19 megs,, but is NOT  alive cd
[14:47] <new-b> can anybody help,  using xubuntu natty, cannot get to desktop with my 1st user account; correct password etc., logged in but somehow sent automatically back to the login screen right away after short blackscreen which look so much like the one after i logout after session; this is my emergency created account; with my 1st i can however get to terminal using ctrl+alt f2 and login from there and do other commands, just no desktop, hints anyone?
[14:47] <Rebas> which version of ubuntu is it, toturedsoul?
[14:47] <torturedsoul> do u think i can make it bootable
[14:47] <cnf> hmm, maybe i need to write a script that does 'apt-get install apache=<version>'
[14:47] <torturedsoul> newest one
[14:47] <coz_> torturedsoul,  I believe so   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:47] <brainwave> shomon, its possible
[14:47] <brainwave> shomon, just let me check, one minute
[14:47] <Rebas> 11.04? right?
[14:47] <coz_> torturedsoul,   I know actionparsnip did with unetbootin but I wasnt able to
[14:47] <Pici> !who | Rebas
[14:48] <DMKitsch> anybody mind talking through how to set up AWstat, I have no file to load in my WWW directory?
[14:48] <shomon> thanks brainwave !
[14:48] <Rebas> i am pici ;)
[14:48] <brainwave> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; startx
[14:48] <brainwave> try that
[14:48] <Rebas> torturedsoul: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[14:48] <torturedsoul> minimal cd sounds good
[14:48] <Rebas> it says there about USB installs
[14:48] <brainwave> shomon, and give me some more time to look for a better solution
[14:48] <torturedsoul> i just need to use dd to do hdd backups
[14:48] <torturedsoul> so minimal install should have all i need
[14:49] <martian> Is there a commandline version of the tool that will select the fastest ubuntu repo?
[14:49] <coz_> torturedsoul,  I always suggest it actually,, the only thing to remember is at one point a list of of what you can install shows up,, use the arrows to scroll and the "Space"  bar to tick a box
[14:49] <spectacular> does anybody know what to do about xrandr giving an error of "failed to get size of gamma"?  I have a 1280x800 screen but xrandr is only letting me set it to 1024x768, which, obviously, is a waste, and looks rather ugly
[14:49] <DMKitsch> anybody able to help?
[14:49] <shomon> :) okay, sure!
[14:49] <brainwave> shomon, did you try that?
[14:49] <Rebas> spectacular: are the drivers for your video card up to date?
[14:49] <torturedsoul> any tips on how to get the mini.iso to boot?
[14:50] <gertidon> hi all
[14:50] <martian> DMKitsch: Have you taken a look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AWStats
[14:50] <shomon> brainwave, doesn't that log out of everything?
[14:50] <coz_> torturedsoul,  well,, I have done it on external HD   or cd,, however I have not been successful using  unetbootin,.,  which cd burnning utility are you using on windows?
[14:50] <shomon> I'm a bit scared of running startx from within X!..
[14:50] <brainwave> well it does, not logout of everything, just the window manager
[14:50] <shomon> I mean, doesn't that close all your open applications?
[14:50] <brainwave> ok
[14:50] <brainwave> i
[14:50] <brainwave> i'll try that
[14:50] <beef-supreme> heeeelp
[14:51] <brainwave> wait
[14:51] <spectacular> Rebas, not sure how to check that.
[14:51] <FloodBot1> brainwave: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <torturedsoul> well i have pendrive linux or Flashboot
[14:51] <beef-supreme> i get FATAL: Module snd_seq_oss not found.
[14:51] <torturedsoul> flashboot can install grud4 or syslinux on it
[14:51] <gertidon> is there a command line tool like "tree|more" but with the possibility to up dans down line by line, select the line and open the file in vim ? (something like "vim ."
[14:51] <DMKitsch> martian, yes i did, however i have no link in my WWW to goto it
[14:51] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, I get that error too when typing "modprobe snd_seq_oss", that is normal
[14:52] <shomon> gertidon, maybe mc?
[14:52] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_,  how can i get it working?
[14:52] <coz_> torturedsoul,  are you on windows 7?
[14:52] <cnf> hmm, there must be a way to config this
[14:52] <Rebas> spectacular:  I would suggest the graphic card manufacturers website, and get the latest, it sounds like thats the problem to me.
[14:52] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, looks like you are using an old tutorial. What are exactly trying to do?
[14:52] <torturedsoul> yes
[14:53] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, install tuxguitar
[14:53] <phaidros> cnf: read up on apt pinnning and /etc/apt/preferences ..
[14:53] <phaidros> debtrack didnt help?
[14:53] <MoL0ToV> hi to all. I have problem with mdadm. in /dev i cannot find sda1,sda2,sda3, etc... someone can help me?
[14:53] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, installing it or using it?
[14:53] <coz_> torturedsoul,  I believe if you just right click the iso  and choose  burn disc image  not sure which or any other options are available for that with right click
[14:53] <cnf> phaidros: as i understood pinning, i pin to a repository?
[14:53] <beef-supreme> install then use
[14:53] <martian> DMKitsch: the 'Alias' directive that it tells you to put in your virtual host apache2 config should tell apache that yoursite.com/awstats is an alias for /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[14:53] <torturedsoul> coz: if i wanted to make a dvd then yes
[14:53] <torturedsoul> but i want put it on usb
[14:53] <martian> DMKitsch: did you restart apache?
[14:54] <coz_> torturedsoul,  or  download   infra recorder   http://infrarecorder.org/
[14:54] <phaidros> cnf: yes, but afaik you can fix certain versions as well
[14:54] <cnf> hmm
[14:54] <torturedsoul> i hate dvd's they always get scratched or lost with me
[14:54] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, if i start it i get /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
 no
[14:54] <DMKitsch> one second
[14:54] <coz_> torturedsoul,  try that infra recorder ,, i have not used it but it may have options that the windows 7  buring uitlity does not
[14:54] <Rebas> torturedsoul: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[14:55] <torturedsoul> im using that rebas
[14:55] <torturedsoul> didnt work
[14:55] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, I get the same error, its irrelevant. Could it be, that tuxguitar is working properly but you just don't get sound?
[14:55] <spectacular> Rebas, i don't think they have a driver for linux
[14:55] <torturedsoul> i even let it download the iso for me
[14:55] <torturedsoul> select ubuntu from list
[14:55] <crooksey> If ive got a laptop running 1200x800, can i tell it to run at 1600x1050 when I connect it to a monitor?
[14:55] <Rebas> torturedsoul: try getting 10.04 LTS and using that instead
[14:55] <torturedsoul> ok
[14:56] <Rebas> its what i used, and it works a charm
[14:56] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, well, the whole point of tuxguitar is to get sound, otherwise it's useless, every once in a while instalation succeds and i get working sound but i don't know why it wont work now
[14:56] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, i'm pretty sure it has something to do with the missing modules
[14:56] <gertidon> shomon: thanks, interesting.
[14:56] <phaidros> cnf: I dont get your problem, your cloned system should get the same package versions than your server?
[14:56] <Rebas> Spectacular: who is the manufacturer? and what version of ubuntu do you use?
[14:56] <DMKitsch> martian do i have a problem then as i do not have a URL at the moment
[14:56] <brainwave> shomon, it doesnt work, true. But logging out and relogging in is the fastest way there is. I first thought u had to restart, but u only said re-login. So, that is the way out
[14:56] <torturedsoul> hmmm or might ubuntu server 10.04 be better
[14:57] <shomon> yw gertidon  - a relic from the 80s!
[14:57] <brainwave> If it happens many times, probably you might try zeroing in on the cause of the buttons dying out
[14:57] <torturedsoul> i dont need gui anyway
[14:57] <phaidros> cnf: so do dpkg get-selections on the server into a file and then do on the clone a dpkg set-selection from that copied file. so you have a clone ..
[14:57] <shomon> nah, not when you're in the middle of developing stuff and you have 20+ windows and terms open, brainwave
[14:57] <cnf> phaidros: if the server has not been updated for a while. how will a new dev install get the same version?
[14:57] <anonymous> anonymous2
[14:57] <martian> DMKitsch: you should check your apache log by opening a new terminal and typing: tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log
[14:57] <phaidros> cnf: ah well, dpkg might not be aware of versions. hm, so use debtrack to make a snapshot
[14:58] <martian> DMKitsch: then restart apache from another terminal, and you'll see if there are any errors.
[14:58] <spectacular> Rebas, i'm using ubuntu 11.whatever.  And apparently it's a Sis Mirage
[14:58] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, I dont think so, that issue is usual and also happens to me on every new computer. Start tuxguitar, go in the tuxguitar settings and tell me your settings under "Sound"
[14:58] <phaidros> cnf: or write all package versions in /etc/apt/preferences
[14:58] <cnf> yeah, i googled debtrack. all i get is software to managed debt ^^;
[14:58] <Rebas> toruredsoul: as long as your USB has anough space, either one should work
[14:58] <cnf> phaidros: well, i only need apache, php, mysql etc
[14:58] <cnf> the rest i do not much care about
[14:58] <netspy> want to access my router's serial port using putty client on natty
[14:58] <cnf> so looking at prefernces, and how to note the versions
[14:58] <phaidros> cnf: etc means all libs, that might not ne fun doing it by hand
[14:58] <spectacular> Rebas, VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[14:59] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, tuxguitar sequencer (should have real sequencer in there), midi through port (should have java sequencer in there)
[14:59] <cnf> phaidros: i'm assuming apt is smart enough to know what lib versions to install if i tell it what apache version i want?
[14:59] <Rebas> spectacular: it could be that ubuntu 11.04 dosent have a driver for it yet, as its quite new
[14:59] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, "should have"? you are confusing me
[15:00] <spectacular> Rebas, what would you suggest?
[15:00] <routh> I am attempting to compile a .deb from source; however the dh_make reruns the ./configure script for the package when it's run. By doing so it removes a required 'options.h' file, causing the make process to fail. Is there a way to tell dh_make to skip the ./configure step, or tell it to run 'make update' before running make install?
[15:00] <landingonwater> trouble setting up user on proftpd. Is there some guide for idiots ?
[15:00] <phaidros> cnf: hope so, if not it will try to solve the deps until it fits somehow and lets you choose :)
[15:00] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, when tuxguitar works, those options are available, the java sound sequencer is included in the installation files, if i run the exact same binaries in puppy linux the real time and java options are available
[15:00] <brainwave> @all:any place to see which datatype is defined in what way in gtk? a gtk- all terms dictionary sort of
[15:01] <Rebas> spectacular: if possible, try another graphics card if you have one, downgrade to 10.04 LTS. or google is your friend
[15:01] <DMKitsch> martain i seem to be getting no where so bye
[15:01] <Rebas> either one ^^
[15:01] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, so you can't even start tuxguitar?
[15:01] <torturedsoul> is there some known issue with the 11.04 on usb... hence the recomendation to try older version?
[15:01] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, i can, but the sound doesn't work
[15:02] <Rebas> torturedsoul: 10.04 has been out for longer, its possible the usb installer cannot move 11.04 just yet
[15:02] <Incarus6_> torturedsoul, the live-usb version is working fine
[15:03] <landingonwater> so.. when creating a ftp user, first I create the linux user and set homedir at the same time. But how to turn that into an FTP account ??
[15:03] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, so "tuxguitar-jsa" is installed? Under Midi Port I got the option "Gervill" (I think thats the java thing) which is working fine
[15:03] <beef-supreme> gervill is not java sound sequencer
[15:04] <torturedsoul> my usb is a sandisk
[15:04] <jasonlfunk> Does anyone know where I can get a package to install Apache 2.0?
[15:04] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, and i don't even have gervil on my installation
[15:05] <Pici> jasonlfunk: The package name is apache2 oddly enough
[15:05] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, so?  I don't have any package called Gervill too, but it is working
[15:05] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, i found gervil but if i run it i get error "midi system unavailable"
[15:06] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, javax.sound.midi.MidiUnavailableException: Can not open line
[15:06] <jasonlfunk> Pici: That is for apache 2.2... I want apache 2.0
[15:06] <rxgod> good morning
[15:06] <Pici> jasonlfunk: Why would you want apache 2.0 instead of 2.2?
[15:06] <rxgod> Can someone point me toward info on recovery from a failed Natty upgrade?
[15:07] <jasonlfunk> Pici: In order to test a module that I wrote.
[15:08] <Milossh> hello
[15:09] <em> rxgod: try Downloading a Natty ISO image and make a bottable CD (or USB). Boot on it and select "Upgrade". The system files will be updated and the user files will be untouched.
[15:09] <Milossh> I remember that I had a lot of problems installing ubuntu when downloaded from some mirror
[15:09] <Milossh> but can't really remember which
[15:09] <Milossh> does anyone remember anything about it?
[15:09] <rxgod> ...and what other data loss will take place?
[15:09] <em> rxgod: s/bottable/bootable/
[15:09] <abhijit> how to cross check md5 checksum of any iso from ubuntu?
[15:10] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, what tuxguitar version are you using? would it be an option to you to run tuxguitar over wine?
[15:10] <em> rxgod: I don't know.
[15:10] <rxgod> I was in the middle of the dist-upgrade and the box locked up.  One hard reboot later and ...well, it' gimped
[15:10] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, i would rather not do that, in the past i've used timidity every once in a while but that lacks a lot of instruments
[15:11] <em> rxgod: see if this seems related to your issue -- https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/155999
[15:11] <Pici> jasonlfunk: I don't see that we ship apache2.0 at all. You might want to ask in #ubuntu-server if anyone has a better idea though.
[15:11] <em> rxgod: to me that sounds pretty similar. If you can make a backup of any of your files first that would be ideal and then try that.
[15:12] <jasonlfunk> Pici: okay, thanks.
[15:12] <rxgod> Thanks for the link.  What I have is a buttload of broken dependencies and such.
[15:13] <escott> rxgod, you could try to boot the livecd, then chroot inside and continue the upgrade
[15:13] <mobodo> my ubuntu loads into busybox, when I type "exit" it then boots fine after displaying a whole bunch of ata2 errors and exceptions - should I be worried?
[15:13] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, whats about: http://community.tuxguitar.com.ar/tuxguitar-live/
[15:13] <ikonia> rxgod: if you have broken deps - it's more likley you have external repos causing conflicts, do you have any external repos enabled or ppas ?
[15:13] <rxgod> I was searching for possible dpkg, apt-get, or aptitude info to solve the problem...unless you think otherwise.
[15:14] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, tried it, it doesn't do anything, it just downloads a jnlp(?) file
[15:14] <Incarus6_> rxgod, is it solved yet?
[15:14] <PythonSnake> Hi
[15:14] <rxgod> The deps are for core packages (xorg-video-*, eg)
[15:14] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, you need to have java enabled for that
[15:14] <bazhang> PythonSnake, hi
[15:14] <PythonSnake> Who was I talking with ?
[15:14] <beef-supreme> Incarus6_, how is java not enabled?
[15:14] <Incarus6_> beef-supreme, do you use firefox?
[15:14] <rxgod> Incarus, no..still formulating a strategy
[15:15] <torturedsoul> i've managed to get miniuntuntu on the usb stick, when i restart the computer with usb in, a screen appears asking me to install ubuntu
[15:15] <torturedsoul> BUT
[15:15] <torturedsoul> will this install it on my hdd? or on the usb
[15:15] <torturedsoul> i can't have it whipe my hdd
[15:15] <ikonia> rxgod: do you have any external repos / ppas on your system ?
[15:15] <Incarus6_> rxgod, so it haven't upgraded any packages, the upgrade is failing due to the failed dependency check?
[15:16] <Rebas> torturedsoul: if you choose install, you can have it install side by side, and not wipe the hard drive
[15:16] <Rebas> you then have both linux and windows
[15:16] <torturedsoul> can't i just install it on the usb, its 4gb i think its enough space
[15:16] <PythonSnake> How to uninstall Unity for KDE ?
[15:16] <coco> can anyone help me to configure Ubuntu to enable copy and paste using ctl c and ctl v?
[15:16] <Rebas> torturedsoul: not from the same usb
[15:16] <bazhang> PythonSnake, kde4 does not have unity
[15:16] <torturedsoul> ok
[15:16] <Rebas> youd need a CD, btto from that, and install onto the USB
[15:17] <ikonia> coco: X doesn't work like that, use hilight and middle mouse button
[15:17] <Rebas> boot*
[15:17] <torturedsoul> or a 2nd usb stick
[15:17] <Rebas> indeed
[15:17] <jimmy51_> i've installed ntp (apt-get install ntp) but running ntpdate says no servers can be used. is this a firewall problem?
[15:17] <PythonSnake> bazhang: I meant uninstall Unity and all its programs for KDE
[15:17] <morth> coco i agree with ikonia.
[15:17] <rxgod> Incarus:  Natty upgrade was 90% finished downloading, machine locked up needing a hard reboot.
[15:17] <ikonia> jimmy51_: what servers are you trying to hit ?
[15:17] <torturedsoul> ok i was just worried to continue going further with installation incase it didnt let me select where i want it installed
[15:17] <bazhang> !purekde | PythonSnake this is the link
[15:17] <pythos> what is avahi supposed to be doing, actually?
[15:17] <PythonSnake> thanks
[15:17] <jimmy51_> ikonia: i left all the default ubuntu ones in there.  i added my active directory domain controller to the top
[15:17] <PythonSnake> but
[15:18] <PythonSnake> not gnome unity
[15:18] <escott> torturedsoul, and rather than install you may want to use the startup disk creator
[15:18] <PythonSnake> not gnome but unity*
[15:18] <ikonia> jimmy51_: what country are you in ?
[15:18] <bazhang> PythonSnake, you dont.
[15:18] <Rebas> torturedsoul: however installing onto the HDD wont cause any damage or dataloss, aslong as you choose to install "side by side"
[15:18] <PythonSnake> ?
[15:18] <jimmy51_> ikonia: United States of America
[15:18] <bazhang> PythonSnake, ubuntu has unity. you dont remove it
[15:18] <Incarus6_> rxgod, ikonia, that wasn't a dependency error. rxgod, try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[15:18] <coco> IKonia: what you mean by using the middle mouse button?
[15:18] <ikonia> jimmy51_: ok - this won't cause a problem, it's just a test. do don't worry
[15:19] <bazhang> PythonSnake, if you want to remove gnome, that is the link
[15:19] <ikonia> jimmy51_: ntpdate 0.uk.pool.ntp.org
[15:19] <rxgod> Hmm.  OK.  doing that now
[15:19] <bil21al> is file manager,dash and launchpad options are present in  ubuntu classic????? if so than how could i find them???
[15:19] <PythonSnake> bazhang: How to remove unity
[15:19] <Incarus6_> rxgod, is the command returning an output?
[15:19] <kubanc> does anyone have any tutorial how to set printing from virtualbox Windows OS to ubuntu via network?
[15:19] <ikonia> jimmy51_: what happens with that (it will change your clock)
[15:19] <jimmy51_> ikonia: without sudo, permission denied.  with sudo, the NTP socket is in use, exiting.
[15:19] <ikonia> jimmy51_: cool,
[15:20] <ikonia> jimmy51_: so that means it's not running due to ntp is already running
[15:20] <bazhang> PythonSnake, I just told you, its part of gnome, you dont remove it. choose classic in ubuntu if you dont like or choose kde4
[15:20] <ikonia> jimmy51_: ntpdate uses the same socket as ntp
[15:20] <ikonia> jimmy51_: stop ntpd and then test it
[15:20] <jimmy51_> ikonia: ah, i thought they were the same thing.
[15:20] <Rebas> kubanc: in the windows virtual machine, start->printer and faxes->add printer" and browse for a network printer
[15:20] <morth> --butonbar 0
[15:20] <ikonia> jimmy51_: they are, but they are 2 seperate programs, one is a daemon that runs in the background, one is a command to do a date sync "now"
[15:20] <ikonia> jimmy51_: you can't use both at the same time
[15:20] <PythonSnake> bazhang ok thanks for the help
[15:20] <coco> morth: u agree with ikonia to use the middle mouse button and that ctl c an v do not work right?
[15:20] <ikonia> jimmy51_: make sense ?
[15:21] <kubanc> Rebas, if only it would be so simple, but it cannot find any printer...
[15:21] <jimmy51_> ikonia: ok, after stopping the daemon the command worked.   yeah, makes sense.
[15:21] <coco> Ikoni and Morth: my mouse is attached to my computer
[15:21] <Rebas> kubanc: make sure the virtual machine is on the same workgroup as the network printer
[15:21] <morth> coco: yes, just hilight what you need and use your middle mouse button, if you think about it thats 1 shortcut faster.
[15:21] <ikonia> jimmy51_: ok, so now you know it can sync, you can have cofidence ntp works you just need to hit valid servers
[15:21] <jimmy51_> ikonia: so... theoretically my time was already sync'd by the daemon then.
[15:21] <ikonia> jimmy51_: quite probable, yes
[15:21] <jimmy51_> ikonia: oh yeah, that's right.  better prove out my servers.
[15:22] <morth> coco: rather than hilight CTRL+C then CTRL+V your just doing hilight MOUSE button.
[15:22] <coco> morth: I don't have a middle mouse button though
[15:22] <ikonia> jimmy51_: when you start ntpd if you look in the syslog you should see it hit the servers then adjust with offet -349875945.234 or something like that
[15:22] <Rebas> kubanc: and the virtal machine can connect to the web. most virtual machines can use the linux network adaptor, see if thats also the issue
[15:22] <escott> coco, use both left and right buttons at the same time
[15:22] <bil21al> is filemanager,dash,and launchpad options are present in ubuntu classic??? if so than any body tell me where are they present???
[15:22] <morth> coco: darn no idea then sorry.
[15:23] <escott> coco, if that doesn't work you can enable 3-button emulation in the mouse preferences
[15:23] <jimmy51_> ikonia: ok.  thanks for the help!
[15:23] <ikonia> jimmy51_: using ntpdate is a simple way to validate the time servers though
[15:24] <coco> escott: the left and right button worked thanks
[15:24] <coco> btw does anyone here use python?
[15:24] <kubanc> Rebas, my workroup in widnows is named WORKGROUP, so now i need to add printers in ubuntu to WORKGROUP folder (system-config-printer)?
[15:24] <TrevInc> I do.
[15:25] <TrevInc> coco: what's your question?
[15:25] <edbian> coco: yes
[15:25] <N3rd> t
[15:25] <Pici> jimmy51_, ikonia: ntpq -p   is handy for checking how well and where you are syncing to.
[15:25] <PythonSnake> what is gedit for kubuntu ?
[15:25] <spectacular> PythonSnake, Rebas, FYI: I found the solution here:  http://hellbunker.blogspot.com  I had to tinker with his script a bit, because it was a little bit broken (missing a hyphen here, extra character there), but by looking at it and following the steps, i got it working.  thanks for your help!
[15:25] <PythonSnake> kedit ?
[15:25] <bazhang> PythonSnake, kate perhaps
[15:25] <PythonSnake> ok
[15:25] <edbian> PythonSnake: kwrite   is another more complicated one
[15:25] <coco> Well, I though that ubuntntu made it easy to intall GASP for python but I am having problems installing it
[15:26] <Rebas> kubanc: in my virtual machine, i just made sure that was on the same workgroup, didnt edi the ubuntu section at all
[15:26] <Rebas> spectacular: glad to hear it ^^
[15:27] <Incarus6_> coco, "sudo apt-get install python-gasp"
[15:27] <razmataz> do other distros of ubuntu or linux (aside from ubuntu 11.04) have similar default media controls where i can control playback from anywhere with shortcut keys? and if not how can i add this to a distro?
[15:27] <kubanc> Rebas, you said:make sure the virtual machine is on the same workgroup as the network printer. and how ca i see in which workgroup is the printer in the ubuntu ?
[15:27] <PythonSnake> Who was I talking with ?
[15:27] <PythonSnake> http://hellbunker.blogspot.com/ ?
[15:27] <coco> nt
[15:28] <Rebas> kubanc: is the printer installed on another machine? or is it direct to the router?
[15:28] <moystard> Hello everyone!
[15:28] <KubuntuSnake> Hi moystard
[15:29] <moystard> Quick question: I switch super often from a direct connection to a proxy connection and would like to do it quickly without having to go in the Gnome Network Proxy Preferences. Do you know a tool to do that?
[15:29] <moystard> or at least associate a proxy with a network interface/
[15:29] <coco> Incarus6_: so I tried the sudo apt -get install and for some reason this command does not work
[15:29] <Incarus6_> coco, define "does not work", any output?
[15:29] <bazhang> coco, no space
[15:29] <bazhang> coco, apt-get not apt -get
[15:30] <kubanc> Rebas, the printer is installed on other machine, and not direct to the router. I can print from another PC ,on which i have ubuntu OS, but i cannot print from virtualBox, that is installed on this PC
[15:32] <escott> moystard, nmcli should be able to load an existing profile
[15:33] <coco> Incarus6_ the message I get is this password for <myname> and then when I type my password it says command not found
[15:33] <djkee> hey, how is going everyone :D
[15:33] <escott> moystard, alternately many programs will respect http_proxy environment variables
[15:33] <Incarus6_> coco, make sure you typed the command correctly, use copy paste: "sudo apt-get install python-gasp"
[15:34] <Rebas> kubanc: i might have got lucky with my ubuntu, as i didnt have to change any workgroups, so im not sure how to find out what one your on inside ubuntu.
[15:35] <samelco> hey! has anyone figured out how to get audio to work over hdmi on the revo aspire?
[15:35] <Rebas> kubanc: but the network at my house is MSHOME, and it prints fine.. maybe you could try changing yours to that?
[15:35] <djkee> did you try different audio drivers ? I had trouble with the default audio drivers.
[15:36] <DOOD> bazhang, are u there
[15:36] <samelco> i tried a lot of things discussed throughout the forums, it seems to be a popular problem
[15:37] <DOOD> hello . bazhang
[15:37] <bazhang> DOOD, yes. ask the channel your question
[15:37] <pythonirc101> It seems i've broken my system. My ubuntu was installed in /dev/sde and I would like to boot into it back. What boot options do i need to do so from the installation CD?
[15:37] <Osmodivs> Hello. How do I delete a 32bit enviroment? I created one with SCHROOT, but now I want to delet it
[15:37] <DOOD> bazhang, do u remember me??
[15:37] <Core> Hello people i am having problems with remote unlock from my encrypted HDD (ubuntu server), in order to not spam all i've pasted details here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/635087/
[15:38] <Rebas> we all do, D00D :P
[15:38] <coco> Incarus6_ : thanks again for the help. I did work
[15:38] <bazhang> DOOD, yes, ask the question of the channel please, if someone knows they will answer
[15:38] <DOOD> could u send me the links again
[15:38] <coco> Incarus: if I have questions regarding python is this a good place to ask or is this only for ubuntu questions?
[15:38] <Diverdude> I have an account on a nix system. there is a certain disc quota, however i do not know how much it is, also i dont know how much i have used. Is there a clever command that will tell me this?
[15:39] <DOOD> bazhang, could u send me the links again
[15:39] <Pici> coco: this is only for Ubuntu. Use #python for python questions.
[15:39] <pythonirc101> is there a way in boot options to tell ubuntu to boot from /dev/sde1 ?
[15:39] <edbian> coco: Ask python questions in #python
[15:39] <jimmy51_> ikonia: i'm stuck.  i'm tryhing to set up kerberos and samba but i can't get past kinit telling me Lock skew too great while getting initial credentials.
[15:39] <Rebas> anywho, lunchtime, kubanc: if you still have troubles, and i dont answer in the next ~15-20 mins, pm me, and ill get back to them when i return
[15:39] <jimmy51_> i've sync'd NTP on both machines
[15:39] <moystard> escott, but a lot of them don't
[15:39] <Incarus6> coco, you are welcome. is it working now?
[15:39] <ikonia> jimmy51_: ok - so that means the clock drift is too great to sync
[15:40] <ikonia> jimmy51_: there are rules with things like kerberos, AD, etc etc that if the client has a clock drift too far out from the server, it won't authenticate
[15:40] <coco> Incarus: yes, it is
[15:40] <DOOD> bazhang, !information plz
[15:40] <jimmy51_> ikonia: but i can look at the clocks and see the time is the same
[15:40] <bazhang> DOOD, about what? ask the channel your question. if someone knows they will answer
[15:40] <inashdeen> hi, need a guie, how do i make a ppa package. step by step please...
[15:40] <ikonia> jimmy51_: but it believes its not. so the question is, what makes it think the clock is out
[15:40] <razmataz> exactly what is it that allows me to control my audio playback from my default media player without having the GUI for the media player open in ubuntu 11.04 that might allow me to do the same i other distros?
[15:40] <Rebas> bazhang: he wants the links you sent him before, again
[15:41] <ikonia> jimmy51_: do a date on the client and the server, and look at the it, does it look the same ?
[15:41] <DOOD> bazhang, about the links u sent me besore
[15:41] <inashdeen> by the way, need a friend to perfect my existing project, gui for logkeys, i wrote in buc. anyone interested???
[15:41] <jimmy51_> ikonia: one is Windows, one is Ubuntu.  Ubuntu shows Wed Jun 29 10:41:06 EDT 2011
[15:41] <ikonia> what's windows showing ?
[15:41] <DOOD> bazhang, so do dont remember me do u
[15:42] <djkee> anyone else have trouble using the suspend and sleep functions ? Laptop wont come back from suspend.
[15:42] <DOOD> bazhang, hurry up
[15:42] <jimmy51_> ikonia: Windows shows the same thing, as far as i can tell.  it takes about 5 secondsd to flip between them and then it reports five seconds further (as expected)
[15:42] <Incarus6> djkee, is hibernating working?
[15:43] <djkee> Incarus6, both are not working.
[15:43] <ikonia> jimmy51_: on paper that should be fine, but you need to look (check the logs) to see why it thinks the clocks are out of sync (I think it's 5 minutes is the max drift it can take)
[15:43] <samelco> there are no results in synaptic after searching for hdmi and the latest nvidia driver is current
[15:43] <DOOD> bazhang, THE LINKS NOW plz
[15:43] <jimmy51_> ikonia: is this a kerberos log?
[15:43] <thorsten_> Huhu, somebody may be answer one Question, i dont know what it is, but i must know... Does AT funktion with x chat, Auto Trade Skript?
[15:43] <DOOD> 1
[15:44] <bazhang> DOOD, patience please
[15:44] <ikonia> jimmy51_: that's worth looking at yes
[15:44] <DOOD> 2
[15:44] <DOOD> 3
[15:44] <Rebas> win ^
[15:44] <edbian> was he counting up?
[15:44] <Core> seems so
[15:45] <Incarus6> edbian, yes, he was probably chinese :D
[15:45] <Pici> Incarus6: What does that have to do with anything?
[15:45] <Incarus6> Pici, nevermind, was just a joke
[15:46] <thorsten_> Does somebody know?
[15:46] <Core> Hello people i am having problems with remote unlock from my encrypted HDD (ubuntu server), in order to not spam all i've pasted details here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/635087/ :)
[15:47] <DOOD> bazhang, plz links
[15:47] <Incarus6> rxgod, did that fix your problem?
[15:47] <ikonia> DOOD: stop it now
[15:47] <ikonia> DOOD: ask a questiom, wait for a response,
[15:48] <KubuntuSnake> ikonia: DOOD has left the room
[15:48] <inashdeen> hi, is this the right place to ask bout PPA?
[15:48] <x3__iVaN> inashdeen: maybe
[15:48] <x3__iVaN> try it
[15:48] <ikonia> KubuntuSnake: I know, he left after I spoke
[15:48] <KubuntuSnake> ikonia, ok
[15:48] <KubuntuSnake> llol
[15:48] <inashdeen> x3_iVaN : can someone teach me, step by step how to build a ppa??
[15:49] <Syniq> ikonia: I think LjL should just +b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>>.<
[15:49] <DOOD> 	ikonia, WHAT
[15:49] <KubuntuSnake> ikonia 03:47:33 PM
[15:49] <KubuntuSnake> DOOD: ask a questiom, wait for a response,
[15:49] <susundberg> Core: i dont know to how to help on that problem, but i would just install some small linux distro there
[15:49] <KubuntuSnake> !patient | DOOD
[15:49] <susundberg> Core: i mean i an not sure how the busybox ifconfig should work ..
[15:50] <kubanc> Rebas, http://funwithlinux.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/sharing-ubuntu-host-printer-with-windows-xp-running-in-virtualbox/ did the trick
[15:50] <Core> susundberg: thanks but I fear that is not an option :) i really need it done by busybox + dropbear
[15:51] <susundberg> Core: so you installed with apt-get means that you chrooted there?
[15:51] <Rebas> kubanc: glad to hear it got solved
[15:51] <qin> Core: whatis purpose of encripting whole /home on remote server?
[15:51] <kubanc> Rebas, thanks for help and bon apetit :D
[15:51] <Rebas> ^^
[15:51] <Rebas> cheezburger :D
[15:51] <Core> It is an remote server and the entire HDD is encrypted from the setup , however if it needs to reboot i can't get to it instantly and need to enter the pass to decrypt it from distance
[15:51] <KubuntuSnake> Bonjour Rebas, kubanc
[15:52] <Core> susundberg: i fear i am an noob and have no idea what chrooted is :)
[15:52] <djkee> in irssi how do you ignore the join and quit system messages ?
[15:52] <jrib> !quietirssi | djkee
[15:52] <jimmy51_> ikonia: i'm not seeing a kinit log.  this is a crazy thing.  every reference i can find to that error says sync'ing the clocks within 5 minutes of each other fixed it.
[15:52] <susundberg> Core: eah that is quite problematic, i would leave root partition / boot partition un-encrypted
[15:52] <susundberg> (as they are anyway available from www)
[15:53] <ikonia> jimmy51_: that's as I understand it also 5 minutes is the limit
[15:53] <susundberg> And just encrypt home directory, that would be mounted/un-encrypted when ssh login is done
[15:53] <Core> i followed the official readme but it is failing on me :) (/usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/readme.remote.gz)
[15:53] <KubuntuSnake> !noob
[15:54] <Rebas> fail
[15:54] <djkee> haha
[15:54] <Rebas> ...*googles jfgi*
[15:54] <Core> even if you call yourself one KubuntuSnake ? ;)
[15:54] <KubuntuSnake> ?
[15:54] <susundberg> Core: did you google for instructions?
[15:55] <susundberg> I googled that file and it gave me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1648319
[15:55] <sereal> How do I put a running process into the background? when I do ctrl-z it freezes my process
[15:55] <Core> yes i googled a bit but i am not even getting the network connection up so that isn't my problem (yet)
[15:56] <Core> it are the instructions that i followed though
[15:56] <djkee> You cant just use screen to keep the process running ?
[15:56] <Core> first the apt-get busybox, dropbear and next update-initramfs
[15:57] <sereal> Well I just want to put something into the background as if I did program &
[15:57] <Osmodivs> !google | Rebas
[15:57] <Pici> sereal: type bg after you've pressed ctrl-z.
[15:57] <sereal> thanks pici
[15:58] <sereal> is there no way to do it in one go?
[15:58] <nucc1> if i want to turn my ubuntu 10.10 desktop into an ubuntu server instance, what do i need to remove/add?
[15:58] <Osmodivs> !google | susunberg
[15:58] <De|ta> hi all, just done apt-get dist-upgrade on my 10.04 LTS Server box and it's stopped on "Setting up grub-pc (1.98-1ubuntu12) ..." any ideas?
[15:58] <De|ta> oh, I tell a lie - it's just gone to Installation finished. No error reported.
[15:59] <petgin> hi & got by
[15:59] <De|ta> but I don't have the prompt back
[15:59] <lordb> ubuntu 11.04 dual display issues
[16:00] <susundberg> Core: how about the networking parts that? Can you ping that machine -- no i guess?
[16:00] <Incarus6> De|ta, have you rebooted since then?
[16:00] <Core> if i boot up (so unlock local so it can boot up) yes
[16:00] <De|ta> no, I haven't
[16:00] <susundberg> Core: I guess you should try to find some document how to set up the network on the initramfs if its not working, and after that try to figure out what is going wrong with ssh-server
[16:01] <susundberg> Core: oh well you said it yourself there
[16:01] <The_Pugilist> hello, i am trying to setup my iptables firewall and after adding some rules and running iptables-save everything works... after i restart the computer however all of the rules get errased what am i doing wrong?
[16:01] <Core> well that is what i tried but for some bloody reason it then says it can't purge it
[16:01] <Core> (forgive the swearing)
[16:01] <sudokill> The_Pugilist, you need to add iptables to startup
[16:01] <doood> hi
[16:01] <Osmodivs> Hello. How do I delete a 32bit enviroment? I created one with SCHROOT, but now I want to delet it
[16:02] <Core> Not exactly susundberg, normally i should get an IP in the initramfs but that isn't working
[16:03] <Rebas> win ^
[16:03]  * mneptok has utter tab-complete fail
[16:03] <susundberg> Core: by normal dhcp client? -- i really dont know that well, maybe somethign like this can help: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
[16:04] <Rebas> indeed you did :P
[16:04] <Core> susundberg: tried DHCP as well
[16:04] <Core> have seen the file too but i don't find that file ( /usr/src/initramfs/init)
[16:04] <susundberg> I would go for static ip -- that gentoo doc has separate part for networking
[16:05] <susundberg> oh ok
[16:06] <susundberg> I would guess its just either installed in different named directory or merged with some other file
[16:06] <D-coy> m4v, priv.
[16:07] <susundberg> Core: check the files that came with the initramfs source package -- or what ever is ment for building that thing
[16:07] <susundberg> Core: i guess that works with dpkg* something .. i myself use apt-file as its easier to remember ;)
[16:08] <Core> susundberg: apt-get is my way, i don't remember installing initramsfs though it came with the install
[16:09] <susundberg> Here is something also: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/initramfs-with-decrypting-a-luks-root-partition-questions-881096/
[16:10] <susundberg> Core: did you install http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html
[16:10] <Core> susundberg: i haven't done that yet
[16:11] <ivaylov> hi guys, do you know any proxification software for ubuntu?
[16:11] <dimas_> i cant see my volume control anymore
[16:11] <sudokill> ivaylov, privoxy polipo tor
[16:11] <sudokill> most common ones
[16:11] <Rebas> proxification, thats a word? lol
[16:11] <bazhang> ivaylov, what does apt-cache search proxy turn up
[16:11] <ivaylov> 2 sec
[16:11] <Core> susundberg: it is already on my system (like initramfs preinstalled)
[16:12] <susundberg> Then i guess you should look for the hook scripts (?) but i am really guessnig here, never done that
[16:12] <ivaylov> bazhang, lots of stuff
[16:12] <dimas_> hello everyone, i want to know if you can help me get my volume control back
[16:12] <COOLDOOD> hi i have aproblem with my ralink wireless network stick
[16:12] <LjL> COOLDOOD: just explain the problem (in one line)
[16:13] <Rebas> dimas_ have you looked in System->admin->sound?
[16:13] <Rebas> dimas_ sorry, system->preferences->sound
[16:13] <Rebas> my bad
[16:13] <ivaylov> i got it sorted, thanks :)
[16:14] <Rebas> dimas_ right click it, and press "add launcher to panel"
[16:14] <dimas_> Rebas says waiting for the sound systen to answer
[16:14] <Rebas> hm
[16:14] <djkee> sound driver, i had the same problem.
[16:15] <dimas_> the sound works perfect but no volume control
[16:15] <pietr101> Hello, what do you recommend for remote access to my ubuntu box. So I can listen to my music/watch movies?
[16:15] <COOLDOOD> LjL, everytime  i plug in the stick it dosent detect it and i dont have a driver for it
[16:15] <ikonia> pietr101: over the internet ?
[16:15] <pietr101> ikonia:  yes
[16:15] <Core> susundberg: i am afraid the script is ok
[16:16] <Core> pietr101: i would say SSH in and over the tunnel use VNC or the builtin remote desktop
[16:16] <ikonia> pietr101: watching movies over the net.........not something I'd suggest doing, you could just serve the files on a web server simple enough
[16:16] <LjL> COOLDOOD: please insert the stick, type "lsusb" in a terminal and post the output to the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:16] <dimas_> Rebas when i tryed to launch from System>Preferences it says is waiting for the sound system to respond and then dont open
[16:16] <djkee> @dimas, try to install pulseaudio from the terminal.
[16:16] <COOLDOOD> but i also have a usb mouse
[16:16] <COOLDOOD> LjL, is that ok
[16:16] <LjL> COOLDOOD: worst that will happen is that i will be able to see what mouse model you have.
[16:16] <pietr101> Core: you mean like with X11 port forwarding?
[16:16] <Rebas> dimas_: have you right clicked it, and pressed "add the launcher" ?
[16:17] <COOLDOOD> ok
[16:17] <Rebas> add launcher to panel*
[16:17] <Core> pietr101: yes that is indeed possible if i am not mistaken
[16:17] <pietr101> hmm, i'll try it right now
[16:18] <Core> For the people who know about my issue, googling atm but all help is welcome
[16:19] <upside> i installed ubuntu 11.04. I have two monitors and want to setup the dual screen. it can detect only one monitor. how do i setup?
[16:19] <dimas_> Rebas a launcher is just a launcher...if it doesnt open from where it is doesnt make any sence to create launcher in another location
[16:19] <COOLDOOD> LjL, done and here is the link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/635111/
[16:19] <COOLDOOD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/635111/
[16:20] <Rebas> worth a shot ^_^
[16:20] <Core> susundberg: is it possible i need to load an network module in initramfs ?
[16:20] <dimas_> Rebas that is just a trigger
[16:20] <COOLDOOD> ^
[16:21] <pietr101> Core: i get no sound :-(
[16:21] <LjL> COOLDOOD: which Ubuntu version are you running?
[16:21] <dimas_> what is the name of the pulseaudio volume so i can try open from terminal?
[16:21] <Core> pietr101: i don't know if sound is possible that way :) i never tried that :D
[16:22] <a-l-e> is there any way to make a "usb livecd" persistent?
[16:22] <COOLDOOD> the latest one  whatever it is
[16:22] <pietr101> Core: ok,thx. btw, what is your issue you need help with?
[16:22] <Core> Hello people i am having problems with remote unlock from my encrypted HDD (ubuntu server), in order to not spam all i've pasted details here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/635087/ :)
[16:22] <Core> i pasted it fast :D i am after all a lazy person
[16:23] <LjL> COOLDOOD: with the card inserted, try typing "ifconfig -a" and pastebin that
[16:23] <COOLDOOD> ok
[16:24] <KubuntuSnake> Anyone have heat problem with kde?
[16:24] <angus> I just installed the CUDA development drivers on my laptop. In the process I had to remove the drivers found in System->Admin->Additional Drivers, but this also removed ability to underclock the GPU. Is this possible with CUDA drivers?
[16:25] <Slart> a-l-e: I think there is an option for that when/if you create your live usb thingy using the howto on ubuntu.com
[16:25] <Odisha1> hello..
[16:25] <Slart> a-l-e: at least that should work for when you create a new live usb stick. I'm not sure if you can make an already existing live usb stick persistent
[16:25] <Odisha1> i hv a back-light problem.. plz help me
[16:26] <Odisha1> i m using ubuntu 11.04
[16:26] <susundberg> Core: The initramfs should have afaik the network module loaded
[16:26] <Rebas> could have sworn he said "im missing ubuntu 11.04" :P
[16:26] <susundberg> Core: did you take look at the  scripts hooks mentioned at initramfs-tools manual?
[16:27] <LjL> COOLDOOD: ok so the card is recognized, at least... try typing "iwlist scan", see if it scans for networks
[16:27] <Rebas> howd ya lose it? :P
[16:27] <susundberg> Core: i think you need to set up the network somewhere there to get it working ..
[16:27] <Core> susundberg: yea i tried it in /etc/initramfs/initramfs.conf as well static as dhcp but not really working
[16:28] <Odisha1> hey.. i m new to ubuntu.. plz tell me in full details..
[16:28] <a-l-e> Slart: ... didn't work here...
[16:28] <lduros> hello, whenever trying to use ssh and a key, I get prompted with "Enter password to unlock the private key"
[16:28] <compdoc> Odisha1, a laptop?
[16:29] <ikonia> lduros: yes, you need to use the key password
[16:29] <a-l-e> i used unetbootin to create the image and didn't see any option for it
[16:29] <Odisha1> compdoc yes
[16:29] <lduros> ikonia: so that's the password that was set when the key was set?
[16:29] <susundberg> Core: But the initramfs.conf manpage has no mention about manpage there?
[16:29] <compdoc> Odisha1, whats wrong with the backlight?
[16:29] <ikonia> lduros: correct
[16:29] <susundberg> ... mention about network there?
[16:29] <lduros> ikonia: hmm, not sure anymore what it is pain. On another of my computers I only have to enter my regular user password for some reason
[16:29] <Odisha1> compdoc hmm yess
[16:30] <compdoc> hmm yes what?
[16:30] <Sighter> Trying to set up VSTs (i) on Ubuntu any help?
[16:30] <Slart> a-l-e: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[16:30] <ikonia> lduros: that means you're not using an ssh key on your other computer
[16:30] <lduros> ikonia: I am
[16:30] <Core> susundberg: no fear not, tried it but didn't get me out of my issue either
[16:30] <ikonia> lduros: you're not - unless your normal password is the same as your ssh key
[16:31] <a-l-e> Slart: thanks... i'm going to read it...
[16:31] <susundberg> Core: i mean those ifconfig stuff needs to be on script, not on configure file that is probably parsed somehow?
[16:31] <lduros> ikonia: hmmm
[16:31] <susundberg> (and should give parse error then .. )
[16:31] <a-l-e> ... right now...
[16:32] <susundberg> Core: quite bad instructions are only ones that i found out.. sorry, good luck with it. I am afraid that you have quite a challenge there .. you need to figure out what to do by debugging the scripts or reading some manual (that is probably not written)
[16:32] <mneptok> lduros: protip: when you first login to your own machine, open a terminal and run "ssh-add" and supply the password for your ssh key. you will never be prompted for a password for the key again during that session.
[16:32] <susundberg> Core: initramfs manuals would be maybe the place to start reading ..
[16:33] <Sighter> Trying to set up VSTs (i) on Ubuntu any help?
[16:33] <Core> susundberg: thanks :) i have been reading through them but like you sad those you find are quite bad :D
[16:33] <susundberg> Core: that is usually the case with the manuals -- if they are not outdated they are too short to be any use ;)
[16:34] <cactusbottom> mornin
[16:34] <greg_72> hi there, any ubuntu-openvpn expert here<
[16:34] <greg_72> >
[16:35] <cactusbottom> you know how people join just to ask for help :P?
[16:35] <Sighter> Trying to set up VSTs (i) on Ubuntu any help?
[16:35] <cactusbottom> I need help setting up my wireless dongle
[16:35] <a-l-e> ok, thanks Slart... i'll have to reboot and see if i can resize the partition with cfdisk...
[16:35] <mneptok> cactusbottom: as this is a support channel, such behavior is quite expected.
[16:36] <cactusbottom> k good :)
[16:36] <BryanRuiz> hey, i have a windows box with ubuntu running in a virtual box(vmplayer).  im trying to ssh to ubuntu from windows yet I keep getting connection refused.  any idea what im doing wrong?
[16:36] <BryanRuiz> firewall is stopped
[16:38] <BluesKaj> lduros, is this the phrase ?  Enter passphrase for key '/home/user/.ssh/id_rsa':
[16:38] <Sighter> Trying to set up VSTs (i) on Ubuntu any help?
[16:39] <craigbass1976> !libreoffice
[16:39] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to install libreoffice in lucid?
[16:40] <Rebas> have you tried sudo apt-get install libreoffice ?
[16:41] <Sighter> ANYONE? Trying to set up VSTs (i) on Ubuntu any help?
[16:42] <Sighter> What does sudo stand for?
[16:42] <emprameen> I'm having trouble getting my natty to boot. Right after BIOS check HDD and monitor go to inactivity, and the OS never boots
[16:42] <emprameen> any hel pwould be appreciated
[16:42] <COOLDOOD> hi my USB ralink wireless card, with 148f:3370 identifier, is recognizes (shows up in ifconfig -a) but won't scan because 'the network is down', and trying 'ifconfig wlan0 up' gives a 'no such file or directory' error
[16:42] <pietr101> Slighter: super user do
[16:42] <compdoc> emprameen, ide drives? sata?
[16:42] <emprameen> IDE drives
[16:42] <Sighter> pietr101: Thanx !
[16:43] <compdoc> is the hdd sharing the ribbon cable?
[16:43] <emprameen> not sharing a ribbon cable currently
[16:43] <compdoc> does the drive have a jumper installed?
[16:43] <Sighter> And what does "bash" mean?
[16:44] <Dynamit> Hi, I'm running webmin and usermin and change the port on the webmin usermin so will be at 10000 which is of course the default port but virtualmin web interface is not available on port
[16:44] <emprameen> the drive has a jumper to indicate it's a main drive
[16:44] <pietr101> Sighter: how about reading a man page first?
[16:44] <genii-around> !webmin
[16:45] <pietr101> Sighter: type "man bash", that will answer your question
[16:45] <compdoc> emprameen, some drives dont require a jumper when by themselves on the cable. But some do. you checked to see what the jumper setting is for?
[16:45] <Dynamit> the webmin is working fine it's the virtualmin Web UI that's not answer on the port
[16:46] <whosurdaddy> 求救：怎样拓展/home？
[16:46] <COOLDOOD> hi my USB ralink wireless card, with 148f:3370 identifier, is recognizes (shows up in ifconfig -a) but won't scan because 'the network is down', and trying 'ifconfig wlan0 up' gives a 'no such file or directory' error
[16:46] <Sighter> piertr101:  sorry nubie here.  Just trying to learn.  Thanx for your patience?  BTW... Trying to set up VSTs (i) on Ubuntu any help?
[16:47] <ruhil> i have just upgraded natty to oneiric but i cannot find the tray. Is it not there in oneiric or have i messed up something?
[16:48] <qin> ruhil: Is not 11.10 alpha?
[16:48] <ruhil> qin: yes
[16:48] <venol> helo,,,
[16:48] <whosurdaddy> is there any boy who can help me out ? i wanna  export my /home  how can i do ?
[16:48] <DasEi> COOLDOOD: followed the .. ?
[16:48] <Gwar> Hey, When I install Ubuntu, should I point /home to my SSD or to a HDD? Assume space is not an issue :)
[16:48] <DasEi> !wireless
[16:49] <COOLDOOD> DasEi, what do you mean
[16:49] <pietr101> Sighter:  np. i have no experience with VST. if you have any more questions, pm me.
[16:49] <ruhil> qin: yes i have upgraded to 11.10 alpha.
[16:49] <DasEi> COOLDOOD: saw the link  I triggered few lines above ?
[16:50] <DasEi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:50] <Rebas> ok, im off. ill catch you all later
[16:50] <Slart> Gwar: some prefer having /home on a separate partition for several reasons.. SSD for speed and using less power
[16:50] <DasEi> !pm | venol
[16:50] <COOLDOOD> !wireless
[16:51] <Slart> Gwar: I don't see a reason not to use the SSD for /home
[16:51] <venol> anybody can help me with mailgraph ?
[16:51] <whosurdaddy> is any command that i could use to mount my  c: d: e：？
[16:51] <qin> Gwar: Do not matter, as long both driver are present at boot, a bit more solid is to have all mountpoints on same hd (only in case when other drive is not automounted)
[16:51] <Slart> whosurdaddy: hard drives created using windows?
[16:52] <whosurdaddy> yes
[16:52] <Slart> !ntfs | whosurdaddy
[16:52] <qin> ruhil: That would be #ubuntu+1
[16:52] <whosurdaddy> i'll have a try
[16:52] <ruhil> qin: thanks
[16:52] <Slart> whosurdaddy: I'm not really sure but I think windows partitions show up automatically these days
[16:52] <whosurdaddy>  tanks
[16:54] <whosurdaddy> Slart   :no ,u shall open a dir creat in win7 then he partions r mounted
[16:54] <stercor> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10.  There is a box, "Error authenticating some packages" with 1630 entries.  Is this troublesome and how can I fix it?
[16:54] <KM0201> COOLDOOD: just cuz it shows up in ifconfig, doesn't mean it's got the driver installed.
[16:55] <Tekk_`> I'm trying to use a dell p54usb device which uses the isl3886 firmware, but I can't connect. nm-applet sees essids and tries to connect, but always fails
[16:56] <whosurdaddy> Can i mount /home to a pation created by win7 while the old documents still in the old /home ?
[16:57] <Tekk_`> whosurdaddy: yeah, you'd unmount your current home then mount the ntfs
[16:57] <dr_willis> whosurdaddy,  you can mount ntfs filesysmtes. but you cant set /home/ to be on a NTFS
[16:57] <qin> whosurdaddy: You can ease your life with links, man ln
[16:57] <[THC]AcidRain> im wanting to write a c script to automatically initiate a php script i have written. do yall believe this is the best way to do so? or are there better ways?
[16:57] <dr_willis> You could link files from the ntfs to a location in your home.. but you have to watch out for permissions
[16:57] <[THC]AcidRain> this script must be set off every so often.
[16:58] <Tekk_`> [THC]AcidRain: ....bash?
[16:58] <dr_willis> [THC]AcidRain,  make a cron job?
[16:58] <[THC]AcidRain> wait. ive heard of cron jobs
[16:58] <[THC]AcidRain> let me research that
[16:58] <dr_willis> research.. good idea. :)
[16:58] <dr_willis> !cron
[16:58] <penlat_> whats the repo to update thunderbird to 5.0?
[17:00] <penlat_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-next
[17:00] <Slart> thunderbird 5.0? I'm still running 3.something .. or they decided to skip a few major versions?
[17:00] <AceKing> I have an Epson Workforce 610 all in one printer. I have it hooked up USB through my PC running 11.04 32 bit. I cannot get it to scan.  I don't remember what config file I had to edit to get it to work when I was running 10.10. Does anyone know how to get this to work?
[17:00] <dr_willis> !sane
[17:00] <dr_willis> check the SANE homepage for info on that exact model, and the forums perhaps.
[17:01] <AceKing> Thank dr_willis !
[17:01] <stercor> dr_willis: OK to repost a question that I asked just before you logged in?
[17:01] <dr_willis> CUPS does the printing.. sane does the scanning..
[17:01] <dr_willis> stercor,  go for it. :)
[17:02] <stercor> dr_willis: I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10.  There is a box, "Error authenticating some packages" with 1630 entries.  Is this troublesome and how can I fix it?
[17:03] <gcristian> Question, how can I see logging on several nodes in the same tail ?
[17:03] <dr_willis> stercor,  i would have to think some gpg keys or other  keyfiles are missing.  soundsa like every package is  having the same issue.
[17:03] <dr_willis> !info multitail
[17:03] <neothecat> anybody have issues with Urban Terror after upgrading to 11.04.  my it starts fine, but the mouse jumps around everytime i move it.
[17:03] <gcristian> without seein them in different consoles....
[17:03] <vcabba> Ubuntu 11.04, video driver (nvidia 173, card gf-8700) active but not in use. Cant turn effects on, into login screen Ubuntu Classic, compiz-settings manager - nothing there, Compiz-fusion icon reloads decoratorm but there is no effects. Dont know why.
[17:03] <venol> helo, excusme..
[17:03] <dr_willis> stercor,  i always do clean installs.. i rarely upgrade
[17:04] <venol> somebody can help me with mailgraph?
[17:04] <venol> please
[17:04] <[THC]AcidRain> dr_willis: so let me be sure i have this right
[17:04] <[THC]AcidRain> 1 * * * * [path_to_php]
[17:05] <[THC]AcidRain> this will activate the script every first minute of every hour everyday of every month?
[17:05] <dr_willis> vcabba,  ive seen similer questions on the askubuntu.com site  'installed but not in use' for nvidia drivers.. ive not really paid much attention to them
[17:05] <gcristian> ubottu: thanks, I'll check it out
[17:05] <stercor> dr_willis: That would  be my preference too.  But how can I keep from reformatting the hard drive?
[17:05] <dr_willis> [THC]AcidRain,  i wouls have to look it up on a cron tutorial.. ive not used cron in ages..
[17:05] <gcristian> LOL
[17:05] <dr_willis> stercor,  i keep /home/ on its own partition. i dont loose user data that way. Makes reinstalling easier.
[17:05] <dr_willis> you basically have to format the system part of the hd.
[17:06] <DasEi> !brain > gcristian
[17:06] <TDJACR> Is there an application that I could integrate with a packet sniffer (like with wireshark's backend) that would map where IP connections are coming from
[17:06] <TDJACR> Like the map in Vidalia
[17:06] <DasEi> !info ehterape | TDJACR:
[17:06] <Sparky-> nmap
[17:06] <Sparky-> o.o
[17:07] <gcristian> multitail works via SSH remotely ?
[17:07] <Tekk_`> DasEi: etherape is the old name for wireshark
[17:07] <Tekk_`> iirc
[17:07] <dr_willis> gcristian,  you could proberly combine it with sshfs if needed. thers ways to do specific commands over ssh also.
[17:07] <stercor> DasEi: or Ethereal.
[17:07] <TDJACR> DasEi: Will try it
[17:08] <DasEi> TDJACR: was a typo, etherape
[17:08] <TDJACR> DasEi: Does it map geographically?
[17:08] <knightrage> hey guys. so i have a 2TB drive ecryptfs partition mounted as /home, but now i need to actually make the partition my root (/) partition and install the OS on there. is there any complications that will arise since the partition is encrypted?
[17:09] <DasEi> TDJACR: no, graphically just , and kind of connection
[17:09] <dr_willis> I suggest backing up the /home/ somewhere unencrypted first knightrage
[17:09] <dr_willis>  the installer will want to format / ,.  and im not sure you can just 'install' to an encrypted filesystem without some extra work.
[17:09] <knightrage> i see
[17:10] <TDJACR> DasEi: Ah, not exactly what I'm looking for, but thank you :)
[17:10] <dr_willis> or at least resize the /home/ and put a / at the front.
[17:10] <TDJACR> DasEi: Have you ever used Vidalia, the Tor control panel?
[17:10] <dr_willis> even then. you should backup.
[17:10] <knightrage> dr_willis: gotcha... yeah, i had a 500gb hd crash on me that held the OS and now i'm stuck with the 2tb encrypted /home
[17:11] <DasEi> TDJACR: http://tinyurl.com/6zyvteu
[17:11] <dr_willis> I hope you know how to mount it from a live cd and unencrypt it.. :) to make backups.. or whatever..
[17:11] <emprameen> can anyone help guide me through terminal to save the one most valuable file on a broken OS?
[17:11] <dr_willis> I sure dont know how. heh
[17:11] <DasEi> TDJACR: and oc can set it to another input
[17:11] <dr_willis> emprameen,  what filesystem? what file?
[17:11] <TDJACR> DasEi: No, I know how to use it, I operate a Tor relay and exit node. I was wondering if the map feature could be used with all packets
[17:12] <TDJACR> By an app that did the same thing using pcap
[17:12] <TDJACR> Or something
[17:12] <Dulak> knightrage: if it was me I would mount it, copy off the important stuff then wipe it and install from scratch, with a seperate /home again to make reinstalls easy
[17:12] <knightrage> i might just buy a new hd, heh
[17:13] <dr_willis> i found 2TB external USB on sale for $75  the other day.
[17:13] <dr_willis> emprameen,  talk in the channel please.
[17:13]  * dr_willis may have to leave at any time.
[17:14] <Tekk_`> I have a dell wireless nic that uses the p54usb driver and isl3886 firmware.  But it never connects
[17:14] <venol> helo, somebody can help me please ?
[17:14] <TDJACR> A lot of OOL customers here
[17:14] <venol> mailgraph on my server is not updating..
[17:14] <TDJACR> !ask | venol
[17:14] <Tekk_`> venol: don't ask to ask, just ask
[17:14] <COOLDOOD> hi my USB ralink wireless card, with 148f:3370 identifier, is recognizes (shows up in ifconfig -a) but won't scan because 'the network is down', and trying 'ifconfig wlan0 up' gives a 'no such file or directory' error
[17:14] <emprameen> using natty partition that won't boot, and i'm using natty ubuntu live cd to access it
[17:14] <Tekk_`> TDJACR: ah, so that's the command :P;
[17:14] <TDJACR> Tekk_`: Yeah xD
[17:14] <emprameen> the file is a cover letter
[17:15] <KM0201> COOLDOOD: depending on which ralink it is, it might need ndiswrapper.
[17:15] <Core> I am giving it up people, will be back later
[17:17] <goltoof> how to reinstall screen?
[17:17] <TDJACR> DasEi: I'm now cloning Vidalia's source from git to see if I can extract the map feature and plug it in to pcap
[17:17] <TDJACR> goltoof: apt-get purge screen && apt-get install screen
[17:17] <goltoof> short story, i uninstalled php5 improperly and it removed all dependencies, screen already installed but won't run
[17:18] <COOLDOOD> !brain > KM0201
[17:18] <Tekk_`> I know that the isl3886 usbfw/p54usb driver combo works, since I've gotten it working once before, I just can't get it back to working
[17:18] <goltoof> oh nvm.. it works in regular term, not in yakuake o_0
[17:18] <DasEi>  goltoof: sudo apt-get remove --purge screen && sudo apt-get install screen
[17:18] <goltoof> why wouldn't it work in yakuake
[17:18] <dr_willis_> screen in yakuake.. :) thats.. intense
[17:18] <dr_willis_> term settings perhaps.
[17:19] <goltoof> dr_willis  me gusta
[17:19] <dr_willis_> I just use terminator if in X.
[17:19] <COOLDOOD> hi my USB ralink wireless card, with 148f:3370 identifier, is recognizes (shows up in ifconfig -a) but won't scan because 'the network is down', and trying 'ifconfig wlan0 up' gives a 'no such file or directory' error
[17:19] <goltoof> dr_willis, used to terminator, just hitting f12 is less invasive
[17:19] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: use the gnome network manager to configure it
[17:20] <COOLDOOD> how
[17:20] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:20] <COOLDOOD> ikonia: latest
[17:20] <venol> ok, I'm sory. My problem is mailgraph is not updating on my server. I have sent 2 email from outsite to my server, and for 10 minutes I sent 3 mail again from outside to my server, but graph on mailgraph just count received 2 messages, the result is different with pflogsumm count received is 5
[17:20] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: exactly which one
[17:20] <goltoof> maybe need to autoremove yakuake :/
[17:21] <dr_willis_> remove/reinstalling apps.. is sort of a windows mentality to 'fix' things..
[17:21] <COOLDOOD> ikonia: 11.04 ithink
[17:21] <COOLDOOD> 1 sec
[17:21] <dr_willis_> Unless you messed with the files belonging to that program.. it shouldent get broken that way
[17:21] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: you need to know, can you please show me the output of "uname -a"
[17:22] <goltoof> removing php5 improperly messed with tons of files for tons tons of programs
[17:22] <dr_willis_> php5 messing with yakuake? that would be weird..
[17:23] <goltoof> php back up now, but now screen won't work in yakuake, strange indeed
[17:23] <Pici> !doesntwork
[17:23] <WdisoiwW> s
[17:24] <WdisoiwW> hi
[17:24] <lolmatic> hi
[17:24] <Tekk_`> !ask | lolmatic
[17:24] <lolmatic> i uninstalled compiz and emerald and now i dont have any window decorations
[17:25] <Tekk_`> lolmatic: do you have any other window manager?
[17:25] <lolmatic> Tekk_`: i have gnome (classic)
[17:25] <dr_willis_> screen and yakuake does work here.. 11.04  32bit install.
[17:25] <Tekk_`> lolmatic: look for metacity in the ubuntu software center, it may have gotten uninstalled at some poyint
[17:26] <dr_willis_> venol,  chat in the channel please. I may have to leave at any time. and may no tbe back for hrs...
[17:26] <COOLDOOD> ikonia: 11.04
[17:27] <goltoof> tried removing yakuake, says it's not installed, but i'm using it o_0
[17:27] <Pici> Krabbe: stop that
[17:27] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-connect.html
[17:27] <lolmatic> Tekk_`: how can i move windows now? alt and win key dont work.
[17:27] <dr_willis_> goltoof,   Magic! heh.. if you had it running while you uninstalled it.. its in the cache i imagine.
[17:27] <Tekk_`> lolmatic: no you can't without a window manager
[17:28] <dr_willis_> lolmatic,  try alt-f2 and run 'metacity --replace'
[17:28] <COOLDOOD> ikonia: thanks
[17:28] <goltoof> dr_willis, i don't believe in unicorns
[17:28] <lolmatic> Tekk_`: lol. ok, so which packages do i need to get metacity back? alt+f2 doesnt work either
[17:28] <dr_willis_> goltoof,  Elven magic.
[17:28] <lolmatic> ill just install via shell
[17:28] <dr_willis_> lolmatic,  go to the console 'sudo apt-get install metacity'
[17:29] <goltoof> dr_willis, only dwarves exist, afaik
[17:29] <Tekk_`> I have a p54usb dell nic that uses the isl3886usb firmware, which I copied into /lib/firmware on my livecd and did a modprobe -r then modprobe. network manager picks up the card and my access point but it can never connect, anyone have any ideas(natty livecd, waiting for the install to happen)
[17:29] <lolmatic> dr_willis_: it says i already have the latest metacity
[17:29] <goltoof> where would this cache be?
[17:29] <zdenek__> :)
[17:29] <dr_willis_> lolmatic,   open some terminal somehow.. and run it then. :)
[17:29] <dr_willis_> goltoof,  in ram.
[17:30] <Snicers> Hey, I want all files  I create in a directory from a specific user or group to have permissions of 775, how do I do this and have it automatically do it every time a new file is created?
[17:30] <warlock> what it is metacity?
[17:30] <lolmatic> dr_willis_:  well when i have it why didn't it get started on boot?
[17:30] <dr_willis_> goltoof,  never noticed that you can be doing system update/ugrades to apps .. while they are in use.
[17:30] <dr_willis_> lolmatic,  you got it set to use compiz still i imagine.
[17:30] <dr_willis_> lolmatic,  check the options on the gdm login screen.
[17:30] <Guest26079> help me... ! aku mau instal ubuntu versi baru gmn caranya ???
[17:31] <dr_willis_> I cant even tell what language that is...
[17:31] <goltoof> hmm... i did, but didn't
[17:32] <Guest26079> i wont to instal ubuntu last version ! how ?
[17:32] <Snicers> warlock, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity
[17:32] <new^comer> Guest, install ubuntu 10.10
[17:32] <dr_willis_> !install | Guest26079
[17:32] <goltoof> Guest26079, last, or latest?
[17:32] <new^comer> guest, 10.10 shuld be best
[17:33] <Guest26079> i have the file !
[17:33] <new^comer> or last LTS 10.04
[17:33] <dr_willis_> Guest26079,  what file?
[17:33] <new^comer> dont go for 11.04
[17:33] <Guest26079> how to burn to cd ?
[17:33] <goltoof> still no screen in yakuake :(
[17:33] <dr_willis_> !burn | Guest26079
[17:33] <Dynamit> use an img burner
[17:33] <new^comer> wht file?
[17:33] <KM0201> COOLDOOD, not sure why you sent me that message, I didn't PM you..
[17:33] <goltoof> even after purge
[17:33] <Guest26079> yes
[17:33] <Snicers> Hey, I want all files  I create in a directory from a specific user or group to have permissions of 775, how do I do this and have it automatically do it every time a new file is created?
[17:34] <COOLDOOD> soory
[17:34] <dr_willis_> goltoof,  as a test. try it with a newly made user perhaps its a user config issue.
[17:34] <RA_drc> !bash
[17:34] <Tekk_`> okay, what packages do I need to upgrade my kernel and all firmware without internet?
[17:34] <dr_willis_> Snicers,  the umask command i belive.. there was a good post on using it on askubuntu.com     themask of 002 Might be what you need.. (ive rarely used the command)
[17:35] <ikonia> Tekk_`: why do you need to upgrade your kernel ?
[17:35] <dr_willis_> !umask
[17:35] <Tekk_`> ikonia: because I remember that was part of fixing my usb wireless
[17:35] <Tekk_`> ikonia: I think, it was a while ago
[17:35] <RA_drc> !brain
[17:35] <COOLDOOD> ikonia: i dont have the drivers
[17:35] <escott> Tekk_`, depends on the firmware. at a minimum you need the kernel and the matching initrd. if you have any proprietary drivers you likely want a matching package of that
[17:35] <COOLDOOD> thats the pron
[17:35] <ikonia> Tekk_`: if there is a kernel update available, it will be offered to you by update manager
[17:35] <dr_willis_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/44542/what-is-umask-and-how-does-it-work
[17:35] <dasjkl> ¶¹¶¹½øÀ´
[17:35] <COOLDOOD> blem
[17:36] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: why do you think that
[17:36] <Tekk_`> ikonia: which is useless when I don't have internet ;) I need to know the package names for the kernel and init so that I can grab them from packages.buntu and then actually have the internet to upgrade everything else
[17:36] <COOLDOOD> ikonia: ecause i didnt install them
[17:36] <COOLDOOD> b
[17:36] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: that doesn't mean you need to
[17:36] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: did you follow the guide I gave you
[17:37] <COOLDOOD> yes
[17:37] <ikonia> Tekk_`: I advise you not to do that, I advise you to connect to the internet with the machine if possible and update
[17:37] <RA_drc> Guest26079: turki?
[17:37] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: ok - so what part didn't work ?
[17:37] <Tekk_`> ikonia: it is impossible. trust me, I wouldn't be doing this if I could avoid it
[17:37] <ikonia> Tekk_`: the packages are called linux-image-$version
[17:38] <RA_drc> !umask
[17:38] <COOLDOOD> ikonia:  first step. my usb isnt being recogonised
[17:38] <Tekk_`> ikonia: just that?
[17:38] <ikonia> Tekk_`: yes
[17:38] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: what do you see in the list ?
[17:39] <Tekk_`> ikonia: okay, thanks. I'll see how that works :)
[17:39] <COOLDOOD> no networks
[17:39] <COOLDOOD> at all
[17:39] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: that doesn't mean it's not seen
[17:39] <COOLDOOD> so
[17:39] <COOLDOOD> then what
[17:39] <ikonia> COOLDOOD: could you please pastebin the output of "iwconfig"
[17:39] <COOLDOOD> ok
[17:40] <dr_willis_> bbl
[17:41] <dasjkl> ¹þ¹þ£¡ÕâÀïºÃÈÈÄÖ£¬¶¼ÔÚÁÄÊ²Ã´Ñ½£¿
[17:41] <COOLDOOD> !brain > ikonia
[17:42] <Snicers> Can you change the UMask for specific users?
[17:42] <COOLDOOD> ikonia, isent it to u
[17:43] <lolmatic> how can i reset my gamma (intel) after some game set it to some weird value?
[17:43] <enko_> anyone here suggest a good vpn ?
[17:44] <Syniq> ikonia: It is with a slight sense of irony that I note most anyone whose nickname contains the word 'cool' is almost certainly the antithesis of the word.
[17:45] <yunosh> hi, is anybody else getting 404s for changelogs from natty-proposed?
[17:46] <pythonirc101> anyone knows what i did wrong: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/423768/
[17:46] <pythonirc101> my /dev/md1 is not supposed to be bootable
[17:47] <ikonia> pythonirc101: you don't boot the meta devices
[17:47] <Abhijit> enko_, if you are looking for free anynomity solution try tor. though its a slow option