[08:48] <Zanthius> hi all, just wondering if anyone else is having the same issue as I - the master volume control is not changing the LFE (sub woffer) volume.  It only changes the front speakers until it mutes, then everything mutes.
[08:48] <ere4si> try sudo apt-get clean
[08:49] <lesshaste> what's the command line to bring up wireless network after I have modprobed the rt73 module?
[08:49] <[DS]DragonSlayer> k i tried sudo apt-get clean
[08:49] <DBautell> `rob, well about the best I can do is tell you to look into frame buffers... I really have no idea how to go about it, and I ought to get some sleep
[08:49] <lesshaste> the interface is wlan0
[08:49] <ere4si> then df -h to see free space
[08:49] <`rob> DBautell: thanks so much
[08:50] <DBautell> `rob, good luck
[08:50] <blackjackel> anyone know the official channel for compizfusion?
[08:50] <[DS]DragonSlayer> k i tried df -h
[08:50] <ere4si> !compiz
[08:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[08:50] <[DS]DragonSlayer> it shows me the devices
[08:50] <icesword> #compiz-fusion\fs21
[08:50] <icesword> my gooood
[08:50] <amazen720> Login keeps going to 'please wait scanning local network' I changed something in login, please help!
[08:50] <`rob> amazen720: what did you change?
[08:50] <Zanthius> lol
[08:51] <ere4si> icesword: hi
[08:51] <icesword> ere4si: ya, nice to see you
[08:51] <Zanthius> hi all, just wondering if anyone else is having the same issue as I - the master volume control is not changing the LFE (sub woffer) volume.  It only changes the front speakers until it mutes, then everything mutes.
[08:51] <ere4si> icesword: you must have good eyes :)
[08:51] <[DS]DragonSlayer> is there a way to add more partition space to my / from /home?
[08:51] <icesword> ere4si: huh?
[08:52] <Zanthius> DS - not unless you repartition
[08:52] <Zanthius> not easy
[08:52] <ere4si> icesword: you see me on a chat channel - meant to be a funny... :)
[08:52] <blackjackel> Is there any way I can go into detail of the "extra" visual effects in the appearance prefrences of ubuntu? I am having a problem with compiz and videogames....
[08:52] <lesshaste> 2.6.24 completely kills my system it seems
[08:52] <lesshaste> warning to other would be hardy upgraders
[08:52] <ariqs> you've said that lesshaste
[08:52] <ht> lesshaste: how does it kill it?
[08:53] <amazen720> rob: something but I cant remember, I know I was taking off auto log in and got distracted by my wife
[08:53] <Zanthius> blackjackel - there is a package you can install to get more settings... cant remember what it is now... google compiz settings manager
[08:53] <lesshaste> ht, a) X won't boot b) I get the error "hda: drive not ready for command" over and over again in the VTs
[08:53] <amazen720> rob: because I add a new login screen
[08:54] <lesshaste> ht, 2.6.22 seems ok
[08:54] <amazen720> rob: I'm stuck
[08:54] <Gidix> guys, at which directory does ubuntu 8.04 place the firmware ?
[08:54] <icesword> ere4si: hmm, what have you been busy with
[08:54] <`rob> DBautell: have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36871.html (i think this is it... will try)
[08:54] <[DS]DragonSlayer> will Gparted work to repartition?
[08:54] <blackjackel> Zanthius, thanks, for future refrence its "advanced desktop effects settings (ccsm)
[08:54] <Zanthius> that's it :)
[08:54] <ere4si> icesword: finding flatmates atm and making bash scripts
[08:55] <simplechat> hey, i'm wondering. will rsync -avz work with non-ext3 file systems?
[08:55] <ere4si> [DS]DragonSlayer: yep
[08:55] <Gidix> guys, at which directory does ubuntu 8.04 place the firmware ?
[08:55] <Zanthius> what firmware?
[08:56] <icesword> ere4si: hmm, why not find another person to share the rent with you
[08:56] <Gidix> Zanthius,  i'm trying to get the broadcom WLAN to work
[08:56] <ere4si> icesword: that's what I'm working on
[08:56] <[DS]DragonSlayer> Gidix: i'm trying to resize, but my / and /home has a key sign next to it
[08:56] <ganapati> there is no blinking light when i connect lan cable..it works with other computers..
[08:56] <Zanthius> lol, good luck
[08:57] <[DS]DragonSlayer> is there a way to do it?
[08:57] <`rob> amazen720: go to login window preferences
[08:57] <Arelis> bazhang, are you still there?
[08:57] <ere4si> [DS]DragonSlayer: the filesystems need to be unmounted - use the live cd
[08:57] <[DS]DragonSlayer> do i have to unmount?
[08:57] <[DS]DragonSlayer> oh ok
[08:57] <ere4si> :)
[08:57] <Gidix> Zanthius, this command ../../b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w “$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR” wl_apsta.o --> gives me this error: failed to create output directory: No such file or directory
[08:57] <Gidix>
[08:57] <Gidix> any ideas ?
[08:57] <[DS]DragonSlayer> what is an ideal HD space for /
[08:57] <[DS]DragonSlayer> i set it at 3 gb but i guess it's not enough
[08:57] <`rob> amazen720: on the general tab: disable multiple logins for a single user
[08:58] <ere4si> }Dtry six
[08:58] <`rob> amazen720: on the remote tab: disable remote logins
[08:58] <ere4si> [DS]DragonSlayer: try six
[08:58] <[DS]DragonSlayer> k
[08:58] <[DS]DragonSlayer> i guess 6 to / and 7 to /home
[08:58] <Zanthius> had a friend install the broadcom drivers... he had to play for quite a while, but i didn't get the details from him sorry....
[08:58] <`rob> amazen720: security tab: deny tcp connections to xserver
[08:58] <amazen720> rob: something with configure xserver form login and I was just checking it out, then I got distracted and rebooted and now I get 'please wait scanning local network' and then the windo says not serving hosts were found, I tried typing in my local host name and it shows me in the window my host name then starts all over agian
[08:58] <matthew_> hi
[08:59] <amazen720> rob: how do I do that fro tty?
[08:59] <amazen720> from*
[08:59] <`rob> amazen720: go to that area now
[08:59] <amazen720> rob: I cant login, so how?
[08:59] <`rob> amazen720: ah
[09:00] <`rob> amazen720: can you get to recovery mode?
[09:01] <amazen720> rob: I can get a command line if alt-clt-backspace
[09:01] <blackjackel> Does anyone know why games and multiple desktops are not compatible with compiz fusion???
[09:02] <kwadronaut> hmmm both mpd and apache don't bind anymore to their port, but seem to start correctly
[09:03] <`rob> amazen720: i would just do that - and sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm  // then i would sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <Blinkiz> having problem with complete system hangs with my new 8.04 64 bit kernel. It only happens when I browse sites with Firefox. So it has something todo with the combination there. Computer hangs for 5-10 seconds every time I load something heavy inside Firefox. Like the site http://www.armada.nu.
[09:03] <`rob> amazen720: that might be the quickest way
[09:03] <Blinkiz> Please advice
[09:03] <microwaver> Hello people. anyone got Compiz working on Integrated ATI Radeon®  Xpress 1150 HyperMemory ?
[09:04] <JPSman> praise bob
[09:05] <icesword> huh?
[09:05] <Symmetria> I dont suppose there happen to be any file system conversion tools that convert ext3 to xfs are there
[09:05] <Peddy> can anyone tell me if it is bad/dangerous to remove a fan grill?
[09:06] <JPSman> peddy, ony if the CPU is running
[09:06] <ere4si> Blinkiz: I use conky to show system stats and have noticed firefox takes the cpu to 100% for most sites - that might be the issue
[09:06] <microwaver> peddy, wich one do you mean :).
[09:06] <Symmetria> peddy that entirely depends on the type of fan and the type of hardware
[09:06] <microwaver> Anyone expert on desktop effects?
[09:06] <Symmetria> on a normal desktop machine I doubt it would be terribly dangerous, on some of the larger servers that have massive very powerful fans, it could be very dangerous
[09:07] <ariqs> i think releases.ubuntu.com, died ;P
[09:07] <Overboard> can anyone here help me with squid PAM
[09:07] <Blinkiz> ere4si, conky? okay. Well, I don't use conky
[09:07] <kwadronaut> any clue why nothing binds on localhost anymore?
[09:07] <ariqs> and I dunno why in the middle of the night
[09:07] <Symmetria> and if its a power supply fan you are talking about, be extremely careful opening a power supply even if its off, because the charge stored in a power supplies caps can throw you across the room 3 days after its turned off
[09:07] <Symmetria> trust me, been there, done that, got the hell kicked outta me doing it
[09:07] <ganapati> there is no blinking light when i connect lan cable..it works with other computers..
[09:08] <lesshaste> am I right in thinking that the restricted drivers for 2.6.22 for fglrx don't exist in hardy? I ask as I can't boot 2.6.24 as it kills my system and I can't see the 2.6.22 versions in synaptic
[09:08] <Symmetria> (same with CRT monitors)
[09:08] <salv0> is there anybody here using the openvz kernel in 8.04?
[09:08] <ere4si> Blinkiz: was just saying it showed the cpu goes to 100% opening firefox
[09:08] <Overboard> someone must be able to help me with squid come on :(
[09:09] <blackjackel> Anyone know which part of compiz fusion makes the fancy desktop switching? Makes it look all fancy?
[09:09] <dwidmann> lesshaste: 2.6.22 in general doesn't exist in hardy
[09:09] <DistroJockey> !ccsm | blackjackel
[09:09] <ubotu> blackjackel: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[09:09] <lassegul> ere4si: run firefox from terminal and see if it produces some error messsage. test if it happens only on websites with flashobjects, and so on.
[09:09] <lassegul> ere4si: conky rocks btw :)
[09:10] <lesshaste> dwidmann: right... oh dear :)
[09:10] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, yes, I already have this installed, but I cant figure out which is doing the fancy switching... I dont want to disable switching all together, i just want to disable the fancy switch effect.... I am having problems with compiz, multiple desktops, and a wine game....
[09:11] <DistroJockey> blackjackel: what sort of switching? alt+tab?
[09:11] <blackjackel> No, ctrl alt and arrowkey
[09:11] <whochismo> Hi all
[09:11] <KalEl> hi, when i upgraded to hardy heron i got a beta version of firefox 3. was this intended?
[09:11] <whochismo> i would like to ask if somebody knows how to change a webcam driver on Ubuntu
[09:12] <case_> KalEl, yes it is
[09:12] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, no ctrl alt and arrowkey between desktops, if I do this with effects enabled the game dissapears (but I can still hear it running) and then the only thing to do is kill the process
[09:12] <whochismo> the driver that came with 7.10 isn't working properly, and the one in 8.04 works perfect
[09:12] <whochismo> i upgraded my computer, but the old driver is still used
[09:12] <whochismo> any idea?
[09:12] <DistroJockey> blackjackel: possiblly Viewport Switcher
[09:12] <case_> KalEl, it's suposed to be upgraded when final release of FF3 will came out
[09:13] <KalEl> case_ thanks... so ff guys couldn't keep up with ubuntu :)
[09:13] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, I tried unchecking that but it still looks fancy (as opposed to effects off, which just switches without any fancy effect)
[09:13] <case_> KalEl, it seems you still have ff2 available in the repositories if you want to stuck to ff2
[09:13] <KalEl> the firefox is not responding from time to time... that's why i'm concerned
[09:13] <`rob> 8 minutes left until i see hardy for the first time :) yay!
[09:14] <`rob> i hear it has a kick azz wallpaper
[09:14] <amazen720> rob: I'm on wireless and I can connect to the net
[09:14] <`rob> :)
[09:14] <`rob> amazen720: you can or you can't connect to the net?
[09:14] <amazen720> rob: can't
[09:14] <`rob> ok amazen720 give me a min
[09:14] <whochismo> any idea about this webcam issue?
[09:15] <`rob> amazen720: we will edit the file manually
[09:15] <`rob> amazen720: gimme a sec
[09:15] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, the only things that have an effect are the desktop wall and expo, but those seem to disable switching all together
[09:15] <M0nk3yM4n> What does a sleeping process mean in Ubuntu?
[09:15] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, though i just tried desktop plane, that seems different, but still kinda fancy.... gona test to see if it works with the game
[09:16] <DistroJockey> blackjackel: can't really see much that would help. Good luck.
[09:16] <ariqs> so, what's a good stable mirror for hardy?
[09:16] <ere4si> M0nk3yM4n: a process that's loaded but not used or using cycles
[09:16] <Za1> Hi everyone, I've just reinstalled Ubuntu and installed my graphics card, in 'Hardware Drivers' it says that NVIDIA Accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) is installed and enabled and the status is 'in use'.. yet when I reboot my machine X tells me that Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode. Any idea why this is not taking effect?
[09:17] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, thanks, Is there a page on the difference between "effects off" and "effects on" in the apperance tab in ubuntu?
[09:17] <ubuntu> ro
[09:17] <Nukeador> hi there
[09:18] <DistroJockey> blackjackel: not sure sure. I always get ccsm and customize it how I want
[09:18] <amazen720> rob: got all the way to the part --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and got 'E: Unable to fetch archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing', so I did s ifconfig and found out that I wasn't connected to the net
[09:18] <DistroJockey> not sure sorry^
[09:19] <`rob> amazen720: you there?
[09:19] <Nukeador> anyone else is having problems with fglrx driver and HD3850 agp cards? My system crashes when it loads
[09:19] <amazen720> yeah
[09:19] <amazen720> rob: yeah
[09:19] <Za1> Hi everyone, I've just reinstalled Ubuntu and installed my graphics card, in 'Hardware Drivers' it says that NVIDIA Accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) is installed and enabled and the status is 'in use'.. yet when I reboot my machine X tells me that Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode. Any idea why this is not taking effect?
[09:20] <waylandbill> I upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy. My software sources, third party has several entries for Gutsy. It's safe to remove them from the list?
[09:20] <bjames> hi all - can someone remind me of the command to list all devices? I need to find out what graphics card I have.
[09:20] <zaggy-nl> searching at packages.ubuntu.com returns an Internal Server Error
[09:20] <motyaaa> âñåì ïðåò
[09:20] <amazen720> rob: couldn't I reinstall gdm form the ubuntu 8.04 installation CD?
[09:20] <whochismo> lspci?
[09:20] <Flannel> !ru | motyaaa
[09:20] <ubotu> motyaaa: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:20] <motyaaa> äà
[09:20] <amazen720> rob: from*
[09:20] <bjames> whochismo: that's the one, cheers ;)
[09:20] <DistroJockey> blackjackel: The only thing that may be worth a try that I can think of is to disable Unredirect Fullscreen Windows in the General area of CCSM
[09:20] <whochismo> anyone knows how to change the webcam drivers?
[09:21] <bjames> I was using lpci and it wasn't working (strangely), lol
[09:21] <bjames> cheers
[09:21] <blackjackel> hmmm k
[09:21] <`rob> amazen720: if you know how to mount it
[09:21] <whochismo> xD
[09:21] <waylandbill> Zal: errors while loading the video driver are in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and would be the place to start looking.
[09:21] <whochismo> you're welcome
[09:21] <amazen720> rob: no I dont
[09:21] <Za1> waylandbill: I've done that my error is: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[09:21] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, trying that now
[09:22]  * DistroJockey nods at blackjackel
[09:22] <militant> morning guys.  just installed hardy, both laptop and desktop.  laptop visual effects are fine, desktop is choppy - are there drivers other than the proprietary that might help?
[09:22] <amazen720> rob: do the ubuntu CD have something to it if you from the disc?
[09:22] <amazen720> rob: fix it*
[09:22] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, no mas
[09:22] <DistroJockey> blackjackel: :(
[09:22] <`rob> amazen720:  sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /media/cdrom -- try it
[09:22] <`rob> amazen720: without the --try it
[09:23] <`rob> amazen720: lol
[09:23] <Za1> waylandbill: any ideas what that could be?
[09:23] <waylandbill> Zal: you try removing and reinstalling the driver package?
[09:23] <Za1> yeah definitely, tried everything already
[09:23] <`rob> amazen720: oops sudo  sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom
[09:23] <Za1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4810347 you can see my problem here
[09:23] <waylandbill> Zal: sounds like you tried everything I would have. Sorry.. don't know
[09:23] <aguy> someone help me plz
[09:24] <blackjackel> DistroJockey, well ill try looking up the difference between effects off and effects on.... with effects off it works with on it dosen't... something must give
[09:24] <`rob> or sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[09:24] <Za1> thanks :)
[09:24] <aguy> i have a "hardy" problem with the mediabuntu keyring
[09:24] <`rob> amazen720: or sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[09:24] <DistroJockey> blackjackel: k, good luck. It's probably compiz in general in that case though
[09:25] <aguy> someone installed medibuntu repo????
[09:25] <cody-somerville> aguy, I have. why?
[09:25] <amazen720> rob: cdrom0 doesn't exsist
[09:25] <IntangibleLiquid> is it possible to remove FF3 and install FF2?
[09:26] <aguy> cody-somerville:  apt-get says that it couldn't authenticate the keyring
[09:26] <`rob>  amazen720: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[09:26] <cody-somerville> aguy, Did you download the keys?
[09:26] <microwaver> anyone want to help me enable composite on Integrated ATI Radeon®  Xpress 1150 HyperMemory ?
[09:26] <rekalis> GOOD MORNINGHT
[09:26] <stdin> IntangibleLiquid: install firefox-2
[09:27] <IntangibleLiquid> stdin: how about FF3? Will FF2 be added to the menu?
[09:27] <amazen720> rob: mounted
[09:27] <cody-somerville> Good morning rekalis
[09:27] <aguy> cody-somerville: i did an apt-get update, added the servers to the sources list using wget
[09:27] <`rob> amazen720: ls /media/cdrom
[09:27] <stdin> IntangibleLiquid: you should be able to remove the firefox-3.0 package if you want, yess
[09:27] <aguy> cody-somerville: then apt-get installed the keyring.
[09:27] <aguy> cody-somerville: apt-get should download it, right?
[09:28] <amazen720> rob: next
[09:28] <Mathman> ha.  ubuntu is nuts.  you might as well just say ubuntu these days as opposed to linux.
[09:28] <rekalis> I Love UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:29]  * kjetilkWork sees 500 errors when searching packages.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <Mathman> ha, not I.  but even so.  here I am.  willing to help out anybody that has a problem.
[09:30] <Mathman> kjetilkWork: say what?  the page doesn't validate?
[09:30] <aguy> cody-somerville: i'm just asking cause apt-get WOULD install it. im just not sure if its ok if it isnt authenticated.
[09:30] <`rob> amazen720: first sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm
[09:30] <unop> kjetilkWork, python crashed :)
[09:30] <amazen720> rob: did that
[09:30] <kjetilkWork> unop, oh, ok
[09:30] <`rob> amazen720: ok one sec... looking for location on cd
[09:30] <pen> hey
[09:30] <kjetilkWork> Mathman: server crash
[09:30] <ganapati> network problem with ubuntu...not able to connect to a vista computer..
[09:31] <absnt> Any idea why my comp freezes when I connect to it with vnc from another comp?
[09:32] <mercurycc> hi
[09:32] <Mathman> kjetilkWork: as in? eh, doesn't matter, I don't figure I'd use ubuntu for a server anyhow.  or maybe that lts stuff or whatever.  after 6 months or so.
[09:32] <EFing_A> absnt.. which os on each side? is it vnc he app or vnc webservices thru port 8080?
[09:32] <Za1> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver -found) any ideas??
[09:32] <Mathman> ganapati: can you ping it at least?
[09:32] <nol1fe> any best practices on backups with ubuntu?
[09:33] <absnt> EFing_A: Its from my ipod touch to my box using the vnc4server and vnc module in xorg.conf
[09:33] <mercurycc> any one know why i always hear some crack sound with OSS?
[09:33] <sa> hi everyone
[09:33] <Mathman> nol1fe: make sure your junk is backed up?  nah, I hear good things about bacula.  but then it all depends on what you mean by backing stuff up I spose
[09:33] <EFing_A> absnt:  ... oh.. sorry..  nevery experienced that one...   :(
[09:33] <sa> i have had 2 problems and I cannot solve them
[09:33] <Kaaiman> hi
[09:34] <sa> i tried to upgrade my 7.10 to 8.04
[09:34] <Mathman> mercurycc: turn down your stuff?  I dunno.  sound is a real sucky thing as far as linux goes
[09:34] <absnt> EFing_A: Yeah its weird, even after I close the connection, I have to ssh in from the ipod and reboot the machine, x freezes up and keyboard stops working, screen only shows my mouse moving every like 10secs
[09:34] <sa> but at the end the upgrading froze
[09:34] <`rob> amazen720: hang tight i am in the middle of an upgrade here ... or ask someone else how to install gdm from disk....  i can't mount anything for at least 10 minutes
[09:34] <sa> so network protocol was not installed. is it correct to install the whole program over again?
[09:34] <kjetilkWork> Mathman, what I'm talking about is this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/base
[09:34] <nol1fe> Mathman: thanks, i'll check it out. I have a fileserver to store my files on, but don't want to do the backup of 2 desktops late at night. Best to shut them down. Used Rsync before...
[09:34] <Mathman> mercurycc: least it used to be.  perhaps the whole pulse audio thingy will solve all that.  me, I bascially know nothing on the subject anyhow
[09:34] <EFing_A> absnt: do you think problem is on the ipod side or the ubunu side?
[09:34] <`rob> amazen720: you can wait for me or ask the room
[09:34] <spiniker> hello
[09:35] <amazen720> rob: okay
[09:35] <DistroJockey> nol1fe: this place is probably a good start:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[09:35] <`rob> amazen720: i won't leave you hanging though
[09:35] <josnas_> hey. can someone help me: I have no sound on ubuntu 8.04 -**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[09:35] <josnas_> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC861VD Analog [ALC861VD Analog]
[09:35] <josnas_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:35] <josnas_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:35] <josnas_> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
[09:35] <FloodBot1> josnas_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <josnas_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:35] <absnt> EFing_A: Im sure its on the ubuntu side, I can vnc into my win machine fine and even from my win machine when I vnc to ubuntu it freezes up
[09:35] <Mathman> nol1fe: rsnapshot is really sweet and real easy to set up.  you might oughta check that out
[09:35] <mercurycc> Mathman, thanks anyway
[09:35] <sa> how can i change directory in the terminal?
[09:35] <Myrtti> cd
[09:35] <nol1fe> Mathman: DistroJockey: thanks, i'll check it out!
[09:36] <Almindor> mlocate sucks big time
[09:36] <sa> i want to open "desktop"
[09:36] <kwadronaut> anyone ever had an apache that doesn't report errors *and* doesn't show up with netstat when it *is* running? i gave it ports to listen to, restarted etc.
[09:36] <absnt> EFing_A: I do have other displays set up to a gdm login screen (which is black because of the vnc module in x im thinking)
[09:36] <`rob> amazen720: cd /media cdrom  /// be back in a few
[09:36] <Almindor> it's worse than slocate, and thats a statement
[09:36] <DistroJockey> nol1fe: no problem :)
[09:36] <sa> so I am writing cd /home/sa/desktop
[09:36] <Mathman> sa: ha, yikes.  cd.  as in "cd Desktop"
[09:36] <`rob> amazen720: /media/cdrom rather
[09:36] <Almindor> any way to turn it off? (or make it like "once a week")?
[09:36] <sa> mathman: yes
[09:36] <_2> um  to use shipit to request a cd you have to register, to register you have to have an email address.....   i don't have an email address...
[09:36] <mercurycc> Mathman, It is not very annoying. just curious why it only occurs on the right channel.
[09:36] <absnt> EFing_A: and those work fine =/ (except for the obvious black screen issue heh)
[09:36] <naga> hi
[09:36] <whochismo> hi
[09:36] <naga> i needed some info
[09:36] <ariqs> _2 it's not worth your bother anyway
[09:37] <sa> Mathman: but i get the message: directory does not exist
[09:37] <ariqs> it takes a year to get it sent to you ;P
[09:37] <EFing_A> absnt: do you think it could be a permission or authorization type of issue..    .Xauthority or something where you have to run xhost + ?
[09:37] <Kaaiman> Can anyone help me with the following problem? I've got an old laptop (Compaq Presario 1200), with an Intel Celeron CPU and ony 64 Megs of RAM. I once installed Xubuntu 7.10, and it ran, although not very fast. Now I tried a clean install of 8.04 w/alternate cd, but the installation every time hangs at 'detecting network hardware'. Is this perhaps a known bug?
[09:37] <Mathman> mercurycc: wish I could help you out.  try new speakers?  I dunno man.  but I mean, not every thing is the fault of your os sometimes
[09:37] <sa> Mathman: very funny cause when I type "dir" the directory is actually there?
[09:37] <DistroJockey> Linux is case sensitive sa
[09:37] <_2> arigs that would be shorter than down load time.
[09:37] <absnt> EFing_A: Hmm.. I dunno what any of that means =D
[09:37] <DumpsterBaby> I'd love to slowly back my car over an infants face
[09:37] <DumpsterBaby> and do a burnout
[09:37] <Mathman> sa: bash is case sensitive for one thing
[09:37] <naga> i need to know can i use the google talk o any other voice chat in ubuntu
[09:38] <kjetilkWork> ah, packages is back up :-)
[09:38] <ltracy> Why isn't Eclipse 3.3 in the repos yet?
[09:38] <ere4si> sa: try cd /home/sa/Desktop
[09:38] <DumpsterBaby> I'd love to slowly back my car over an infants face
[09:38] <compwiz18> naga: no google talk (at least not easily) but there are other programs like skype
[09:38] <DumpsterBaby> and do a burnout
[09:38] <DumpsterBaby> I'd love to slowly back my car over an infants face
[09:38] <DumpsterBaby> and do a burnout
[09:38] <DumpsterBaby> I'd love to slowly back my car over an infants face
[09:38] <FloodBot1> DumpsterBaby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <DumpsterBaby> and do a burnout
[09:38] <Bodsda> Kaaiman, before it ets tothat stage,instead of pressing continue prees 'go back' this will bring up a listof things it can do -- select the one after the troublesome one
[09:38] <sa> ere4si: thanks!
[09:38] <ere4si> k
[09:38] <sa> DistroJockey: Thanks!
[09:38] <Bodsda> !enter | DumpsterBaby
[09:38] <ubotu> DumpsterBaby: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:38] <naga> so ineed to download skype
[09:38] <DistroJockey> sa: You're welcome
[09:38] <Mathman> DumpsterBaby: sweet dumb guy.  you just lost.  I mean, what's your goal?  troll it up?  you lost buddy.
[09:39] <compwiz18> Bodsda: I'm not sure that qualified as a "question" ;)
[09:39] <naga> ok so i need to download skype
[09:39] <EFing_A> absnt: scratch that.. . couldn't be that since you're not using X services to connect..  it's vnc..    sorry..
[09:39] <sa> DistroJockey:  another question I have tried to solve but without success. I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04
[09:39] <DumpsterBaby> Mathman: My goal is to obtain TWO infants, so I can get both tires going!
[09:39] <sa> DistroJockey: but during the upgrade everything froze at the end
[09:39] <Kaaiman> Bodsda: I know, I've already tried advanced install, but the same problem happens. And I cant go further, because even when I try to partitionate the installer asks me to detect the network hardware
[09:39] <Bodsda> compwiz18, true --but we dont have a factoid for et lost you troll (unfortunately)
[09:39] <josnas_> can someone help me  - I have no sound in hardy, I had in gibon -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64806/
[09:39] <DumpsterBaby> I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YET
[09:40] <compwiz18> I don't think you have a choice.
[09:40] <ltracy> How where do packages in the repos come from?
[09:40] <DistroJockey> sa: *adds another reason onto the list of why he never upgrades*
[09:40] <Bodsda> Kaaiman, ah,.,.,. well try reburning the disk at a lower speed or accept that new and old aren't always compatible im afraid
[09:40] <Kaaiman> Bodsda: And the cd is fine, I already checked before installing
[09:40] <absnt> EFing_A: Hah.. fixed it.. apparently you can't have the gnome vnc server running at the same time, even on a different display =/
[09:40] <DistroJockey> sa: sorry, could be anything really
[09:40] <Bodsda> Kaaiman, id say go back to gutsy or even fiesty
[09:40] <sa> DistroJockey: It froze right before the cleanup. Now my wireless is not working and the comp is much slower
[09:41] <Mathman> ha, and here I thought in place upgrades were the strength of debian.
[09:41] <ltracy> How do we get standard browser in Beta, but some other packages a major version behind?
[09:41] <Kaaiman> Bodsda: yeah, or I have to wait until 8.04.1 comes out...
[09:41] <ariqs> _2: I'm getting it on dialup
[09:41] <ere4si> sa: try in a terminal - sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:41] <grom358> does anyone know of IRC channel about networking?
[09:41] <ariqs> _2 what's slower than dialup? ;P
[09:41] <DistroJockey> sa: personally, I would backup any data and do a nice clean install
[09:41] <Mathman> ltracy: ubuntu follows debian unstable, no?  so there you go
[09:41] <naga> hey can i know
[09:41] <sa> DistroJockey: 1. should i reinstall with the CD? 2.   But where would I go to ask for other packages to be added..  Like Eclipse 3.3
[09:42] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[09:42] <sa> ere4si thanx
[09:42] <sa> ere4si: Thanx
[09:42] <ltracy> CDT 4.0
[09:42] <DistroJockey> sa: redo the partitions or atleast format them after a backup and it should install nicely (wireless may still need work to get going though)
[09:42] <_2> ariqs no.  28k dialup you only get 2k down.   do the math.
[09:42] <ere4si> sa: it's working?
[09:42] <josnas_> can someone help me  - I have no sound in hardy, I had in gibon -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64806/
[09:42] <ere4si> sa: great
[09:43] <Bodsda> Kaaiman, i suppose that would make sense ,.,. yer wait if you want but you cant play a playstation 3 game on a playstation 1 my friend
[09:43] <sa> ere4si: No, I havnt tried yet
[09:43] <Mathman> ltracy: no where.  if you want eclipse whatever the heck then install it.
[09:43] <ere4si> k
[09:43] <sa> ere4si: I need to reinstall 8.04
[09:43] <DumpsterBaby> Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a...
[09:43] <FloodBot1> DumpsterBaby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <Bodsda> !ops
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[09:43] <sa> DistroJockey: Thankx
[09:43] <Almindor> anyone knows anything about this firefox3 problem with aggressive disk usage?
[09:43] <naga> bm
[09:43] <ltracy> The packages just come from nowhere?
[09:43] <sidewinder> how do i configure hardy for a static ip?
[09:43] <Bodsda> cheers Myrtti
[09:43] <vlt> Hello. Any idea why inetutils-inetd is listening on udp6:69 instead of udp:69 for service tftp?
[09:44] <AdvoWork> hi there, im trying to delete a directory, its got loads of sub directories, ive chmod 777 the first directory, but its still wont delete all files/folders due to permissions. Is there a way I can do a chmod to make all directories within the first directory 777?
[09:44] <DistroJockey> sa: you're welcome. Upgrades can be problematic.
[09:44] <Za1> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[09:44] <Za1>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080427134838
[09:44] <Za1> FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device
[09:44] <ltracy> I've been installing it myself since before Ubuntu 7.04..
[09:44] <_2> ariqs and that's max of 2k   try to browse or irc and that goes to 500b/s
[09:44] <Kaaiman> Bodsda: true... well thanks for the answerd ;) I'll look further to other solutions. Maybe DSL or so
[09:44] <ere4si> sidewinder: I'll get you a link
[09:44] <wi1> hi. i guess i'm not the first one to ask, but what would you tell people that complain about poor video playback and compiz performance on hardy that didn't have any issues in feisty and gutsy?
[09:44] <DumpsterBaby> You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together.  Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually...
[09:44] <DumpsterBaby> ...be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data.  Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a...
[09:44] <FloodBot1> DumpsterBaby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:44] <Za1> can anyone help me with that error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:44] <Kaaiman> Bodsda: or just upgrading from 7.10
[09:44] <compwiz18> someone should tell the bot not to keep unbanning him...
[09:44] <sidewinder> AdvoWork: chmod -r 777 <dir name>
[09:44] <Bodsda> Kaaiman, yer install gutsy then run --  sudo update-manager -d
[09:45] <josnas_> can someone help me  - I have no sound in hardy, I had in gibon -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64806/
[09:45] <Mathman> ltracy: packages?  there's no package involved.  or a tarball if you call that a package.  but anyhow, get the latest eclipse from eclipse.org or some nonsense.  throw that in your home directory.  install some updates and plugins.  make sure your environment is set.  you're good to go
[09:45] <sa> DistroJockey: Yeah, I noticed :)
[09:45] <fserve_> josnas_, open a console then type alsamixer
[09:45] <DistroJockey> sa: Good luck :)
[09:45] <naga> cool
[09:45] <vallhalla81> what can i use to run virtual machines on ubuntu (other than virtualbox as it seems to mess up my system)
[09:45] <fserve_> check if everything is on max with mute off
[09:45] <IntangibleLiquid> I feel more comfortable with 1024x768
[09:45] <josnas_> fserve_, thanks
[09:45] <fserve_> vallhalla81, try fix virtualbox its the best one
[09:46] <compwiz18> vallhalla81: qemu and vmware also work
[09:46] <fserve_> vallhalla81, but if u want to run another linux, try XEN
[09:46] <Mathman> fserve_: ?  what are you like old school mp3 pirate?  ha
[09:46] <HymnToLife> XEN is most likely overkill
[09:46] <HymnToLife> go vmware
[09:46] <Kaaiman> Bodsda: thx I'll try, Im gonna download the 7.10 alternate iso ;)
[09:46] <ltracy> Mathman, I get that.. My point was that I've been installing the same version of eclipse myself since before Ubuntu 7.04.. I want to be aple to apt-get the thing someday..
[09:46] <Bodsda> Kaaiman, ok, gd luck
[09:46] <_2> Za1 pastebin the full text
[09:46] <fserve_> Mathman, hahah : ) is just my old nick
[09:47] <vallhalla81> fserve_: compwiz18  thankyou both
[09:47] <sidewinder> ere4si: i am on hardy. i could do it on gutsy but following the same procedure here does not seem to work
[09:47] <Za1> _2 which text?
[09:47] <Blinkiz> vallhalla81, use kvm. Install package "kvm" and virt-manager" and you are good to go :-)
[09:47] <Za1> the fatal error inserting battery?
[09:47] <fserve> i use vbox here, hardy, very good running xp
[09:47] <Bodsda> sidewinder, what r u trying to do?
[09:47] <_2> Za1 of the partial error you posted
[09:47] <Mathman> ltracy: eh, I dunno.  check if eclipse.org has some binary .deb files or whatever.  go with the version ubuntu comes with (probably your best choice).  compile the svn snapshot.  do something I spose at any rate.
[09:47] <Za1> that is the whole erro
[09:47] <Za1> error*
[09:47] <ere4si> sidewinder: I used this for hardy- http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[09:48] <sidewinder> Bodsda: set my machine a static ip on the network
[09:48] <Za1> I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:48] <Za1> I answer a few questions about my keyboard and whatever else
[09:48] <Za1> and then it gives me this:
[09:48] <Za1> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[09:48] <Za1>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080427134838
[09:48] <Za1> FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device
[09:48] <FloodBot1> Za1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <Za1> and I am using a desktop computer?
[09:48] <vallhalla81> Blinkiz: ok cool thank you
[09:48] <Bodsda> sidewalk, erm System--> Admin->Network -- unlock double click on wireless change box on second section from dhcp to static enter ip then exit?
[09:48] <spiniker> how can i download cairo themes?
[09:48] <Za1> and that is preventing me from getting my nvidia drivers working
[09:48] <ere4si> sidewinder: just make sure the numbers are suitable for your network
[09:49] <sa> DistroJockey: thank you :)
[09:49] <Bodsda> !paste | Za1
[09:49] <ubotu> Za1: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[09:49] <_2> Za1 that shouldn't cause any issue.  just the fact that a kernel module can't load...   does xorg not work ?
[09:49] <josnas_> fserve_, alsamixer - master and 100% : now I hear sound but very very silent
[09:49] <lg31415> ?
[09:49] <Za1> xorg works, it's my drivers that I'm trying to configure
[09:49] <Blinkiz> vallhalla81, Am having problem running virt-manager other than root. Maybe best to say if you get into any problems...
[09:49] <Za1> but they won't work
[09:49] <Za1> no matter what I do
[09:50] <Za1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4810347
[09:50] <FloodBot1> Za1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <ere4si> josnas_: is pcm turned up?
[09:50] <Za1> Could you please look at my post?
[09:50] <fserve> josnas_, try press tab
[09:50] <Bodsda> !enter | Za1
[09:50] <ubotu> Za1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:50] <suivre> I install the firestarter, and it keeps saying the eth0 is not ready, anybody help me please
[09:50] <fserve> josnas_, and check if everything is on top/max/no mute
[09:51] <wi1> hi. i guess i'm not the first one to ask, but what would you tell people that complain about poor video playback and compiz performance on hardy that didn't have any issues in feisty and gutsy?
[09:51] <Wobbo> where did the samba/linux network sharing configuration pane go since 8.04?
[09:52] <Za1> v
[09:52] <biouser> anyone know of a good way to convert ogg to avi?
[09:52] <AdvoWork> sidewalk you know you said chmod -r 777 dir  well even though i can see the dir, its there, its saying no such file or directory
[09:52] <josnas_> fserve, strange, everything is set on max
[09:53] <Bodsda> !ffmpeg
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <Bodsda> !info ffmpeg
[09:53] <ubotu> ffmpeg (source: ffmpeg): multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 187 kB, installed size 664 kB
[09:53] <Bodsda> biouser, ^^^
[09:53] <Krompl3> biouser: there are programs which can help you...
[09:53] <Bidget> how do I empty my recycle bin or trash bin or whatever ubuntu calls it?
[09:53] <fserve> josnas_, hmmm
[09:53] <fserve> Bidget, right click on it -> empty
[09:53] <Bodsda> Bidget, click on the bin in the toolbar then clickon the big EMPTY button
[09:53] <Bidget> yeah but I dont see it anywhere so I cant right click on it hahaha
[09:53] <mstef> can virtualbox be used with xp already installed on another partition??
[09:54] <josnas_> fserve, maybe i ll put the question on a forum
[09:54] <fserve> mstef, yes
[09:54] <Bidget> I dont have a bottom toolbar maybe I should said that
[09:54] <Trackilizer> Until ubuntu 8.04 i used these instructions "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584" to get dual monitors to work. No after following the instructions nothing happens, my other monitor simply remains black. Is there any other way to get this to work?
[09:54] <Bodsda> Bidget, if you have no bin then right click on the toolbar and add it
[09:54] <mstef> fserve, could you point me towards a tutorial or something..cant find one
[09:54] <fserve> josnas_, do that, witch sound card you use?
[09:54] <fserve> sound[VIA8237 - VIA 82371: VIA82XX-MODEM - VIA 82XX modem]
[09:54] <Bidget> ah ok thanks Bodsda
[09:54] <unop> AdvoWork, try using the full path to dir.  chmod -R 777 /path/to/dir
[09:54] <fserve> mstef, sorry i dont know one : (
[09:54] <Bodsda> Bidget, no probs
[09:54] <josnas_> fserve, Card: HDA ATI SB                                                             │
[09:54] <josnas_> │ Chip: Realtek ALC660-VD
[09:54] <LunaFreeState> isn't the trash bin on the lower right coner of the screen.
[09:55] <LunaFreeState> by default
[09:55] <Almindor> this firefox bug is horrible
[09:55] <ere4si> nomally
[09:55] <Bodsda> LunaFreeState, yes
[09:55] <mstef> fserve, oh alright..there doesnt seem to be an option to access the already installed xp...theres only options for creating virtual drives, etc
[09:55] <Almindor> I can't even open the thing without getting 100% cpu/disk atm.
[09:55] <biouser> what is a good program to convert ogg to avi?
[09:55] <Almindor> not even via nice 20
[09:55] <Bodsda> Almindor, what firefox bug?
[09:55] <sidewinder> ere4si: "connect: Network is unreachable"
[09:55] <Almindor> Bodsda, it's "caching" or something, disk 100% cpu 100%
[09:55] <fserve> mstef, i think that vmware have that option
[09:55] <Almindor> Bodsda, even the mouse get's stuck when it starts doing that
[09:55] <sidewinder> ere4si: thats after i ping the router
[09:56] <Bodsda> Almindor, does cpu spike when your downloading through apt or synaptic?
[09:56] <mstef> fserve, k thanks
[09:56] <AdvoWork> unop think that worked, thanks
[09:56] <ere4si> sidewinder: did you make sure the numbers for network were appropriate?
[09:56] <Almindor> Bodsda, no, this is ff3 problem, I got other net stuff on all the time (transmission is on with ~130kbps right now)
[09:56] <sidewinder> ere4si: yes. 100% sure.
[09:56] <Almindor> Bodsda, it's not net related, ff is "doing something" on the disk
[09:57] <Almindor> Bodsda, the moment I kill ff it stops
[09:57] <Bodsda> Almindor, i had same prob as you -- i added to more dns's from opendns.com and it ran like a charm
[09:57] <ganapati> any one know about ubuntu networking with vista?
[09:57] <ere4si> sidewinder: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in a terminal
[09:57] <Almindor> Bodsda, then it's a bug
[09:57] <Bodsda> Almindor, do u use wifi?
[09:57] <Almindor> Bodsda, there's no friggin reason for disk activity on dns problems
[09:57] <Almindor> Bodsda, no
[09:57] <sidewinder> ere4si: been there done that
[09:57] <DistroJockey> Za1: did you do the following command (backup xorg.conf if you don't have a current one)?:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:57] <Almindor> Bodsda, pure cable, dhcp
[09:57] <nol1fe> ganapati: what do you need to know?
[09:57] <fserve> ouvindo[Stratovarius - Stratovarius - Götterdämmerung] length[4:01/7:16]
[09:57] <Bodsda> Almindor, yes there is -- but only very small
[09:58] <IntangibleLiquid> how do I get totem to play divx movies? Sound works but see no videp
[09:58] <Almindor> Bodsda, why does it use the disk?
[09:58] <Bodsda> Almindor, uninstall and install ff2 -- ff3 is beta 5
[09:58] <ere4si> sidewinder: the gateway address is your router address
[09:58] <Za1> yes I did DistroJockey, I get the same error:
[09:58] <ere4si> ?
[09:58] <Za1> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[09:58] <Za1>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080427134838
[09:58] <Za1> FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device
[09:58] <FloodBot1> Za1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <Bodsda> Almindor, searches for local dns's first
[09:58] <sidewinder> ere4si: i know
[09:58] <Almindor> Bodsda, yes, I know, and I can understand the bugs, any workaround?
[09:59] <ganapati> nol1fe:there is no blinking light when i connect..but it works with other computers..
[09:59] <albech> ahhh 7.10 running again :D
[09:59] <_2> Za1 just a thought.  but maybe try; sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /xorg.back ;sudo nvidia-xconfig      let it generate a new config from scratch.     else i really don't know.
[09:59] <sidewinder> ere4si: i told you i configured it many a times in gutsy but hardy doesn't allow it.
[09:59] <ere4si> sidewinder: can you paste /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:59] <DistroJockey> Za1: with the -phigh bit? (you don't mention using that in your post)
[10:00] <Bodsda> Almindor, yeah -- install ff2 i almost through hardy out of the window cause of ff3
[10:00] <Gidx> hi there
[10:00] <ere4si> sidewinder: I've done here on hardy
[10:00] <nol1fe> ganapati: when you connect your cable to vista and ubuntu you mean?
[10:00] <Za1> sorry I didn't mention that but I have tried it and it returns the same error
[10:00] <IntangibleLiquid> what do most of you guys use as email client? Thunderbird or Evolution?
[10:00] <Gidx> how do i set the keyboard shortcut for changing the layout ?
[10:00] <stunatra> Thunderbird.
[10:00] <DistroJockey> Za1: k
[10:00] <Bodsda> thunderbird
[10:00] <mrtimdog> Does anyone else firefox (in hardy, fresh LTS install) go unresponsive and greyed out every time a link is pressed? Any know causes, if you do?
[10:00] <Almindor> Bodsda, I don't want ff2 it's slow like hell :)
[10:00] <nol1fe> Evolution
[10:00] <Za1> any ideas?
[10:00] <Almindor> Bodsda, I'll look in about:config
[10:00] <_2> Za1 just a thought.  but maybe try; sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /xorg.back ;sudo nvidia-xconfig      let it generate a new config from scratch.     else i really don't know.
[10:01] <IntangibleLiquid> 2 on 1, thunderbird then lol
[10:01] <ganapati> nol1fe:yes..my ubuntu desktop and vista laptop..
[10:01] <Za1> tried that too _2 but thank you :)
[10:01] <Bodsda> Almindor,then install ff1 or even better run ff3 beta 5 windows version through wine (should work)
[10:01] <Bodsda> Almindor, make sure ipv6 is off
[10:01] <LunaFreeState> thunder bird 3 on 1
[10:01] <nol1fe> ganapati: and you use a crossover cable?
[10:01] <IntangibleLiquid> cool
[10:01] <DistroJockey> Za1: line 68 of your xorg.conf looks messed up
[10:01] <_2> Za1 with nvidia-xconfig or with dpkg-reconfigure ?
[10:01] <stunatra> Thunderbird is the best.
[10:01] <mark_> I am coming
[10:01] <Almindor> Bodsda, yes, I'm turning ipv6 dns off now
[10:01] <sidewinder> ere4si: auto lo
[10:02] <Gidx> how do i set the keyboard shortcut for changing the layout ? neither Shift + Alt nor Alt+Alt are working
[10:02] <nol1fe> Does thunderbird support palm devices?
[10:02] <Bodsda> Almindor, gd stuff but it should be disabled by default
[10:02] <sidewinder> ere4si: thats the default content
[10:02] <IntangibleLiquid> I'm just curious. Why does ubuntu not make thunderbird the default email client?
[10:02] <Za1> _2: dpkg-reconfigure
[10:02] <stunatra> IntangibleLiquid, they should.
[10:02] <Za1> Nvidia-xconfig also returns an error of its own
[10:02] <ganapati>  nol1fe:with same cable i can connect laptop wid other desktop and my desktop with other laptop ..but between particular these to systems problem exists..
[10:02] <stunatra> would fit in well with Firefox.
[10:02] <ere4si> sidewinder: I'll paste mine - make sure you have all lines and numbers are appropriate
[10:02] <ere4si> !paste
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[10:03] <Bodsda> !msgthebot
[10:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:03] <IntangibleLiquid> been using Thunderbird on Windows and very pleased with it :)
[10:03] <Za1> DistroJockey: that xorg.conf is what was generated for me, I haven't changed it
[10:03] <IntangibleLiquid> now that I've made the switch
[10:03] <microwaver> anyone got problems adjusting brightness?
[10:03] <DistroJockey> Za1: It's a right mess :(
[10:03] <ganapati> nol1fe:yes..its a crossover cable
[10:03] <stunatra> Evolution is like a Outlook clone.
[10:04] <Za1> :(
[10:04] <LunaFreeState> it seemed like it ran better on windows (thunderbird)
[10:04] <nol1fe> ganapati: hmm. and if you have an active connection and plug the calbe from one system to another the led on the vista machine dimms?
[10:04] <Za1> makes me so sad because I've spent 3 days trying to get it working now
[10:04] <IntangibleLiquid> stunatra: the clock is connected with Evolution
[10:04] <_2> Za1 that's why i sujested trying the nvidia-xconfig with a blank .focn file
[10:04] <Za1> people are already telling me just to return to windows
[10:04] <Za1> I did that _2
[10:04] <stunatra> IntangibleLiquid, heh
[10:04] <ere4si> sidewinder: I think you might be missing this line - iface eth0 inet static - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64808/
[10:05] <LunaFreeState> I errased my windows partion
[10:05] <IntangibleLiquid> Za1: ppl are telling me they will stay with ubuntu
[10:05] <DistroJockey> Za1: can you maybe rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.notworking  and then try that   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:05] <AussieGuy> not good....
[10:05] <microwaver> Someone want to help me with a small problem?
[10:05] <Bodsda> !yay | LunaFreeState
[10:05] <ubotu> LunaFreeState: Glad you made it! :-)
[10:05] <stunatra> Ubuntu is the best distro.
[10:05] <AussieGuy> you always need to be careful when you install a new operating system. you should of set up two partitions one for windows and one for linux
[10:05] <IntangibleLiquid> undoubtedly
[10:05] <Za1> IntangibleLiquid:  that's excellent for you
[10:05] <Za1> :)
[10:05] <espham> how do I install a GTK theme?
[10:05] <microwaver> hehe, i'm on my work pc, got rid of vista and got ubuntu working (only my ireless crd)
[10:05] <_2> Za1 well. don't go back to windows.    maybe try in  #xorg   or  ##linux      try a different kernel     use vesa if you have to...  but don't go back there... :)
[10:06] <mrpouet> hi
[10:06] <Bodsda> espham, by following the readme in the tarball
[10:06] <AussieGuy> In the mean time you might want to download norton utilites because it has an un delete program
[10:06] <Gidx> how do i set the keyboard shortcut for changing the layout ? neither Shift + Alt nor Alt+Alt are working
[10:06] <Za1> haha yeah, don't wanna but i need my 3d acceleration :)
[10:06] <boubbin> i just plugged usb-mic to my system and i nothing happened, but dmesg says this: http://pastebin.com/df6d5fff how can i make that mic working now ?
[10:06] <AussieGuy> so even though youve formatted your disk the files are still there
[10:06] <IntangibleLiquid> I have a friend who's been crying over his vista taking like 20 minutes to start
[10:06] <LunaFreeState> microwave: what ver of ubuntu?
[10:06] <Bodsda> Gidx, layout of what?
[10:06] <AussieGuy> and that program can get most of them back, but only if you get it now
[10:06] <Gidx> Bodsda, the keyboard layout
[10:06] <absnt> Whats the command to restart x?
[10:07] <stunatra> IntangibleLiquid, sounds like he disabled Readyboot, or whatever it is called.
[10:07] <lassegul> absnt: sudo killall gdm && sudo gdm
[10:07] <meuch> absnt: startx?
[10:07] <_2> Za1 i hear ya.       i don't understand ya, but i hear ya.      _2 <-- console user.  no gui at all.
[10:07] <ere4si> absnt: sudo /etc/init.d gdm restart
[10:07] <Bodsda> Gidx, system--> preferences--> keyboard shortcuts
[10:07] <Za1> haha
[10:07] <Za1> cool man
[10:07] <Za1> that rocks :P
[10:07] <Gidx> Bodsda, been there. but couldn't find it :S
[10:07] <ganapati> nol1fe: with other systems its normal..between these vista and ubuntu no light at all
[10:07] <Za1> I'm a blender fan, so that's why I need my graphics :)
[10:07] <ere4si> absnt: oops   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:08] <IntangibleLiquid> stunatra: I told him to at least return to XP but he said Vista looked a lot nicer :))
[10:08] <Bodsda> Gidx, what are these combo's meant to do?
[10:08] <Gnine> to restart x do ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:08] <stunatra> LOLL
[10:08] <Bodsda> !ot | Za1
[10:08] <ubotu> Za1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:08] <Gidx> Bodsda, change the language in which i type
[10:08] <_2> Za1 well patients is key.   and good luck with it.   i'm went.
[10:08] <Bodsda> Gidx, you want that to be a hotkey?
[10:08] <nol1fe> ganapati.. strange, i admit. maybe there's an option to switch to crosscable in ifconfig
[10:08] <stunatra> IntangibleLiquid, Vista's default theme is better than XP's default theme, tho.
[10:08] <microwaver> !brightness | microwaver
[10:09] <ere4si> sidewinder: any joy?
[10:09] <stunatra> That ugly fisher price blue.
[10:09] <Gidx> Bodsda, yes. a combination of 2 keys.
[10:09] <Za1> thanks _2 :)
[10:09] <ganapati> nol1fe:i ll check..
[10:09] <lassegul> ganapati: Maybe the duplex settings might be wrong. check this out, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-the-speed-and-duplex-settings-of-an-ethernet-card/
[10:09] <IntangibleLiquid> stunatra: yeb. never used vista though
[10:09] <nol1fe> why is it only the community docs allow searching on help.ubuntu.com ...
[10:09] <AussieGuy> ive virtualized windows inside ubuntu so ill probably be deleting my windows partition as well
[10:09] <Bodsda> Gidx, its a little tricky im afraid -- youll have to find out what command is used to change the keyboard country layout then create a hotkey which runs that command
[10:09] <richard> How do I change which set of graphics get used for the bootup splash and stuff?
[10:09] <stunatra> IntangibleLiquid, Vista isn't as bad as people make it out to be. My experience with it was pretty good, considering Windows.
[10:09] <LunaFreeState> try google no1lf
[10:10] <vallhalla81> i have virtualbox installed but keep getting an error msg saying VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED). can anyone help please
[10:10] <Bodsda> !usplash
[10:10] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:10] <stunatra> It doesn't prevent me from using Ubuntu, though :)
[10:10] <Gidx> Bodsda, i found it just now ! it's actually placed under the keyboard settings and now the keyboard shortcuts
[10:10] <zaturno> hi i use ubuntu 8.04 and i want to install moblock some body help me?
[10:10] <Bodsda> richard, ^^^
[10:10] <AussieGuy> you need to install the kernel modules for virtualbox
[10:10] <ganapati> lassegul:what is that??how to check?
[10:10] <Bodsda> Gidx, ok good for u
[10:10] <microwaver> Hello, I use 7.10 and can't control my brightness, what should I do?
[10:10] <Lardarse> Bodsda: related question: is it possible to disable the splash screen?
[10:10] <AussieGuy> apt-cache search virtualbox and youll get a list of packages, one is the kernel modules for virtualbox. install them
[10:10] <olskolirc> haaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:10] <zaturno> hi i use ubuntu 8.04 and i want to install moblock some body help me?
[10:10] <olskolirc> yessssssssss
[10:11] <stunatra> microwaver, turn on a lamp.
[10:11] <olskolirc> ok how is that heron?
[10:11] <Bodsda> zaturno, sudo apt-get install moblock
[10:11] <olskolirc> anyone got it yet?
[10:11] <Bodsda> Lardarse, yes
[10:11] <zaturno> but i have 64 bit
[10:11] <microwaver> stunatra, very funny :)
[10:11] <vallhalla81> AussieGuy: thankyou
[10:11] <bashca> hi there  xrdb command not found !! how fix it on hardy
[10:11] <Gidx> Bodsda, thanks mate :) just one last question .. have u ever messed with broadcom WLAN's ?
[10:11] <stunatra> microwaver, serious. Is this a laptop?
[10:11] <IntangibleLiquid> microwaver: i had the same problem with 7.10. 8.04 makes brightness control better
[10:11] <espham> Bodsda: where do I find the tarball file?
[10:11] <microwaver> stunatra, yes it is.
[10:11] <Bodsda> Gidx, no but ive done my fair share of networking
[10:11] <lassegul> zaturno: start with this one, come back if you encounter problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoBlock
[10:11] <stunatra> Try turning on a lamp.
[10:11] <Bodsda> espham, wherever you downloaded it to
[10:11] <zaturno> thanx man
[10:12] <microwaver> intangibleliquid, my fn + up etc doesn't work.
[10:12] <IntangibleLiquid> microwaver: I mean that, most of my fn keys are working now
[10:12] <Gidx> Bodsda, how do i know if: 1) my system recognizes my WLAN hardware. 2)the firmware is properly installed ?
[10:12] <stunatra> microwaver, The brightness in the room can have an effect on the brightness of the screen.
[10:12] <vallhalla81> AussieGuy: how do i install it when i find it please
[10:12] <stunatra> At least, in my experience, it's true.
[10:12] <bashca> hi there  xrdb command not found !! how fix it on hardy
[10:12] <LunaFreeState> go back to 7.10
[10:12] <ganapati> lassegul what is duplex setting?
[10:12] <microwaver> stunatra, I know but I can't change dilly squat on it. :) that's my problem.
[10:13] <AussieGuy> apt-get install <packagename> where packagename is the virtualbox modules package
[10:13] <Bodsda> Gidx, basically just check these command outputs -- lspci        dmesg           ifconfig         iwconfig
[10:13] <microwaver> IntangibleLiquid, some problem for my wirelsss lan card, but that's another problem.
[10:13] <AussieGuy> should look something like virtualbox-modules-2.6.14 or something
[10:13] <vallhalla81> AussieGuy: thank you again
[10:13] <stunatra> That sucks then, I have no idea how you'd do it manually. I don't know of any software for Ubuntu that can do accomplish that. Sorry.
[10:13] <Bodsda> bashca, if you know the command is in the repo's just apt-get it
[10:14] <sidewinder1> ere4si: thanks man. that worked. there was a line missing...
[10:14] <IntangibleLiquid> haven't tested my wireless connection yet but it does detect some WPA wifi around. I just assume it works for me
[10:14] <lassegul> ganapati: transfer speed between network devices. i work as support for an ISP, and my experience is that duplex errors is the most common error when the link lamps arent blinking :)
[10:14] <microwaver> stunatra, thanks for the help though :)
[10:14] <ere4si> sidewinder: great!
[10:14] <sidewinder1> ere4si: but why doesn't the GUI work like it used to?
[10:14] <bashca> Bodsda, Package xrdb is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:14] <microwaver> IntangibleLiquid, fn + f2 (to enable wireless) does nothing :)
[10:14] <ere4si> sidewinder: don't use the gui...
[10:15] <IntangibleLiquid> microwaver: same here lolz
[10:15] <Bodsda> bashca, pastebin the whole terminal message
[10:15] <Bodsda> !paste
[10:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:15] <Gidx> Bodsda, ifconfig only shows me eth1 and lo. that means that my WLAN isn't there ?
[10:15] <ArthurArchnix> I've uninstalled Totem because it's causing infrequent but irrecoverable crashes. Shuts down the xserver. Very ugly. Anyway, I've got VLC so there's no problems, but when I click on a video it gives me an error message about not finding Totem. How would I tell it that VLC is the default video player?
[10:15] <IntangibleLiquid> microwaver: are you aon an asus?
[10:15] <ArthurArchnix> This is hardy by the wya.
[10:15] <Bodsda> Gidx, wifi?
[10:15] <sidewinder1> ere4si: then why did they make it?
[10:15] <JohnRandom> anyone knows, if the old xorg.conf's are still viable in hardy?
[10:15] <Gidx> yes Bodsda. my wifi
[10:15] <Bodsda> Gidx, sorry use   iwconfig
[10:15] <sidewinder1> ere4si: thanks anyway.
[10:15] <ere4si> sidewinder: didn't have me in mind...?
[10:15] <DistroJockey> microwaver: this may help:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767374
[10:15] <JohnRandom> got some issues with the resolution of my monitor
[10:16] <Gidx> Bodsda, says lo no wireless extensions. and same for eth1
[10:16] <TTilus> i would like to notified about updates to certain svn repository the same way im notified about new mail, is there svn notifier kind of tool for ubuntu/gnome
[10:16] <microwaver> IntangibleLiquid, i'm using a Dell Vostro 1000, think the motherboard is ATI :)
[10:17] <LunaFreeState> TTilus: isn't there a rss feed?
[10:17] <Bodsda> JohnRandom, , try to change in   System --Preferences -- screen resolution -- if that doesnt work run    sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:17] <Lardarse> TTilus: probably yes, but I don't know how
[10:17] <DistroJockey> microwaver: Re: HOWTO - Fix your laptops brightness function keys operating properly in 8.04 Hard 			 			works on dell vostro.
[10:17] <Bodsda> Gidx, it should say wlan0 if you had one
[10:17] <albech> how do i prevent my usb disk to time out when idle?
[10:17] <microwaver> DistroJockey, but I work on 7.10, not going to change to Hardy until its like 8.10 or something.
[10:17] <Bodsda> !fstab
[10:17] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:18] <microwaver> DistroJockey, thanks for the lnk tho.
[10:18] <LunaFreeState> TTilus: try looking at the default book marks in fire fox, that had a ubuntu feed or two
[10:18] <Gidx> Bodsda, any ideas on how to fix it ?
[10:18] <DistroJockey> microwaver: may help none the less. Good luck :)
[10:18] <bjames> hi all, I've just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 (non-beta) and 3D video acceleration seems to be slightly broken
[10:18] <bashca> Bodsda, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64809/
[10:18] <fserve> bjames, witch graphics card?
[10:18] <Bodsda> Gidx, yeah why not -- lemme find a howto -- whats the make of your wifi dongle?
[10:18] <microwaver> DistroJockey, got my compiz working today, couldn't do the smae with my desktop / atix600 yet :)
[10:18] <bjames> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[10:18] <fserve> hmm
[10:18] <lassegul> bjames: how broken?
[10:18] <bjames> (output from lspci | grep -i radeon
[10:19] <Gidx> Bodsda, it's broadcom. i tried almost every single online guide
[10:19] <ArthurArchnix> I've tried changing the default under video in preferred applications, but it hasn't worked. I told it to use custom then typed vlc. I still get asked about totem. Under windows this would be a simple matter of changing mime type handling, but I'm not sure how to do that in Hardy.
[10:19] <bjames> well, glxgears gives me 367 fps, but 3D desktop "toys" cannot be enabled
[10:19] <Bodsda> bashca, run    sudo apt-get install x11-xserver-utils
[10:19] <Bodsda> Gidx, chipset?
[10:19] <microwaver> indeed Bodsda, that helped me :)
[10:19] <Bodsda> microwaver, cool -- what did?
[10:20] <JohnRandom> my problem is, that my monitor isn't recognized properly... in gutsy, i had options to choose the right one.. this is missing in hardy, tho
[10:20] <Gidx> Bodsda, i guess
[10:20] <DistroJockey> microwaver: nice :)
[10:20] <bjames> lsmod shows ati_agp and radeon running
[10:20] <Bodsda> Gidx, what chipset is your broadcom dongle?
[10:20] <lassegul> JohnRandom: what graphics card?
[10:20] <microwaver> bodsda, to run composite on my ATI card.
[10:20] <LunaFreeState> johnrandom: go back to gusty then, that seems like the easiest thing
[10:21] <Bodsda> microwaver, i may have been sleep walking but i never spoke to you about that ;~)
[10:21] <microwaver> got the worst possible ahrdware if you look at driver support :p ATI and BROADCOM :p
[10:21] <Gidx> Bodsda, does this help ? Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[10:21] <bjames> lassegul: 3D graphics worked out-of-box on 7.10
[10:21] <microwaver> odsda, just picked in on a conversation with someone else :)
[10:21] <erUSUL> !broadcom
[10:21] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[10:21] <Bodsda> Gidx, yes ta -- gimme a sec
[10:21] <mijac> Hello to everybody
[10:21] <changehome> hi everyone, sorry to bother i am using ubuntu 8.04 and i was wondering if anyone can explain to me the steps to change the HOME directory to a network share file
[10:21] <mijac> I have a very strange problem today with compiz
[10:22] <lassegul> bjames: im not really sure. is 300+ fps the right fps for a card like yours? thought it sounded kinda low?
[10:22] <mijac> and is that I see part of the screen
[10:22] <mijac> like smaller
[10:22] <IntangibleLiquid> microwaver: did the network applet say wireless is enabled?
[10:22] <bjames> lassegul: I'm not sure - this is a laptop (3 years old at that), but 367 does seem quite low considering how simple glxgears is
[10:22] <microwaver> IntangibleLiquid, how do you mean 'network applet'
[10:22] <mijac> did you ever saw that >
[10:22] <mijac> ?
[10:23] <microwaver> IntagibleLiquid, hmmm my quick search applet is gone ?
[10:23] <spine55> I can't seem to install extentions in firefox
[10:23] <erUSUL> changehome: mount the network share under /home/ on your fstab (copy the files over first) i has to be a nfs share becouse afaik samba (windows ) shares can not be used forhome
[10:23] <Bodsda> Gidx, here you go -- wade youway through that -- haha -- gimme a shout if you get stuck -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=640890
[10:23] <IntangibleLiquid> microwaver: its the one for switching between wired and wireless connections
[10:23] <lassegul> bjames: how about removing the drivers, then installing them (maybe through envy) again?
[10:23] <LunaFreeState> spine55: what kind of extiontion?
[10:24] <bjames> lassegul: is there a way I can verify the drivers are "working" without reinstalling?
[10:24] <changehome> erUSUL sorry i am kinda new to ubuntu i didnt get to catch it =(
[10:24] <spine55> LunaFreeState: Lets say the del.icio.us extention
[10:24] <bjames> (I don't really want to break X if I don't have to
[10:24] <erUSUL> !fstab | changehome
[10:24] <ubotu> changehome: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:24] <Gidx> Bodsda, what is weird is that i cannot see the wireles card under the restricted drivers manager ?!
[10:24] <spine55> LunaFreeState: but it really doesn't work for anyone that I've tried
[10:24] <microwaver> IntangibleLiquid, not really following you on this one.
[10:24] <rconan> is there an easy way to change the GDM and Gnome themes between the ubuntu and ubuntustudio ones?
[10:24] <mijac> I have a very strange problem today with compiz
[10:24] <mijac> and is that I see part of the screen
[10:24] <mijac> like smaller
[10:24] <Bodsda> Gidx, that thin is only (with 1 or 2 exceptions) for graphics cards
[10:25] <mijac> did you ever saw that >
[10:25] <Bodsda> !enter | mijac  --sorry just keepin order
[10:25] <ubotu> mijac  --sorry just keepin order: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:25] <Gidx> Bodsda, under 7.10 it used to show the WLAN card there
[10:25] <bjames> lassegul: and while I remember there is no entry for the driver under the restricted driver manager, so it must be the open source one
[10:25] <mijac> okok
[10:25] <IntangibleLiquid> microwaver: its the small applet near the clock. Dont know how to tell you though
[10:25] <Bodsda> Gidx, shouldnt of done lol,.,. i woulodnt worry about it not being there
[10:25] <bjames> how do I tell if hardware rendering is happening?
[10:25] <bjames> I suspect it might just be Linux writing to the framebuffer
[10:25] <DistroJockey> mijac: nope, never seen it. Can we see it? Could you post a pic please?
[10:26] <Gidx> ok Bodsda. thanks for the guide :) i will give it a try now
[10:26] <Bodsda> Gidx, kk cool ;~)
[10:26] <microwaver> IntangibleLiquid, only wired it seems
[10:26] <LunaFreeState> spine55: your right, I couldn't do it either.
[10:26] <bjames> lassegul: there is no explicit driver specified in my xorg.conf file
[10:26] <bjames> :-s
[10:26] <ArthurArchnix> Ok... found the solution to changing default programs. Everything you need is in this file:  /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[10:26] <ArthurArchnix>
[10:26] <spine55> LunaFreeState: wierd no?
[10:26] <changehome> erUSUL can home point to a NTSF partition?
[10:27] <Bodsda> changehome, yes just change the $HOME variable   HOME=$"/media/disk-0"
[10:27] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  yes very, maybe it isn't suported for linux, I have run into that before.
[10:27] <erUSUL> changehome: nope; ntfs partitions can not hold the information about ownrship accesses etc of a unix/linux system
[10:27] <the_alamo> i read that metacity in ubuntu 8.04 now supports different desktops when there are 2 monitors.  how do i set that up?
[10:27] <kwadronaut> how to debug an apache2, that doesn't report any errors with loglevel set to debug, returns the correct ports with netstat and lsof but never replies to requests?
[10:27] <erUSUL> ownership*
[10:27] <Bodsda> erUSUL, that doesnt mean a variable cant point to an ntfs partition
[10:28] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  you won't beleave this but I just got it to install
[10:28] <Bodsda> erUSUL, just means you wont have permissions
[10:28] <spine55> LunaFreeState: Haha how?
[10:28] <erUSUL> Bodsda: the point being?? you an not use safely an ntfs filesystem as home partition period
[10:28] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  try clicking the link a second time, that is all i did
[10:28] <Bodsda> erUSUL, u cant use ntfs 'safely' for anything lol -- but yeahi see ur point ;~)
[10:29] <spine55> LunaFreeState: do you know where the Error Console log is?
[10:29] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  now what did I just put on my computer?
[10:29] <IntangibleLiquid> I'm on Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01). The hardware drivers told me to install the firmware. I did. Now it detects surrounding wifi networks but I've never been online using my wifi so I'm not sure if it really works
[10:29] <microwaver> Anyone got an idea how the search applet is called? can't find it on my menu bar anymore.
[10:29] <DistroJockey> ArthurArchnix: cheers. Thanks for sharing. :)
[10:29] <Abdul-Rahman> amazen720: you there?
[10:30] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  under the tools menue.
[10:30] <spine55> LunaFreeState: oh you never used it before?  Its a really cool extention for del.icio.us but you have to create an account first.  Then it manages your bookmarks you can tag them and access them from either a webpage or another browser that has the extention
[10:30] <spine55> LunaFreeState: go to http://del.icio.us
[10:30] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  did it work for you?
[10:31] <Bodsda> erUSUL, has this channel been this busy since the release?
[10:31] <spine55> LunaFreeState: let me try one sec
[10:31] <ArthurArchnix> DistroJockey: Yeah, no problems. It's been bugging me since gutsy, but given the catastrophic crash bug with Totem, I was finally motivated to solve it. :) Find and replace every instance of "totem" with "vlc" and done.
[10:31] <ArthurArchnix> Sweet.
[10:31] <DistroJockey> microwaver: it's called Deskbar  I believe
[10:31] <erUSUL> Bodsda: yep as allways ;)
[10:31] <lassegul> bjames: ati has something similar to nvdia-xsetting, like aticonfig or something like that?
[10:31] <microwaver> DIstroyJockey, thanks its a super handy thing :)
[10:31] <Bodsda> erUSUL, its like 250 more users online -- or maybe 250 more annoyed users lol ;~)
[10:31] <DistroJockey> ArthurArchnix: ahh, nice work
[10:31] <bjames> lassegul: I'm not sure
[10:31] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  I got it from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2354
[10:32] <microwaver> DistroJockey, when I want to add it on my bar, it doesn't show / do it...
[10:32] <IntangibleLiquid> off-topic survey: are you guys willing to pay top price for high-quality products?
[10:32] <Bodsda> !ot | IntangibleLiquid
[10:32] <ubotu> IntangibleLiquid: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:32] <spine55> LunaFreeState: ah not the same one
[10:32] <Lardarse> IntangibleLiquid: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there :-)
[10:32] <spine55> LunaFreeState: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3615
[10:32] <Bodsda> !survey
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about survey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <DistroJockey> microwaver: hmm, it was the second thing I removed from mine, and I just added it back then with no problems
[10:32] <lassegul> try running aticonfig, it will write you a new xorg.conf. remember to back up your old first   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[10:33] <bjames> yeah, I have a copy ;)
[10:33] <bjames> I'll try that
[10:33] <bjames> ...
[10:33] <microwaver> DistroJockey, well here it doesn't work... thought it was due compiz, but that doesn't seem to be the problem
[10:33] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  not the same extention or not the same site?
[10:34] <spine55> LunaFreeState: not the same extention its for the same website just not the same extention
[10:34] <GreenmanX> hi
[10:34] <thani> yes
[10:34] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  but does it do close enough to the same thing?
[10:34] <GreenmanX> can someone help me with a question about a raid-controller
[10:35] <ere4si> !raid
[10:35] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[10:35] <DistroJockey> microwaver: what does the following give:   sudo apt-get install deskbar-applet
[10:35] <lassegul> bjames: keep me posted on how it goes.
[10:35] <spine55> LunaFreeState: not exactly the one that I want does alot more
[10:35] <GreenmanX> ere4si: it?s not how to configure ubuntu to run on the controller
[10:35] <bjames> lassegul: I'm just installing "xorg-driver-fglrx"
[10:35] <spine55> LunaFreeState: that's Ok i'm going to troubleshoot this one I can see the errors now
[10:35] <bjames> as this is required for aticonfig
[10:35] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  at least this one loads though
[10:35] <bjames> (I must not be using the right driver)
[10:36] <ere4si> GreenmanX: the limit of my raid knowledge :)
[10:36] <spine55> LunaFreeState: True thank you for your help
[10:36] <lassegul> bjames: :) lol i think you just found the solution to your problem
[10:36] <GreenmanX> ere4si: ok ;)
[10:36] <amazen720> I got gdm back
[10:36] <bjames> lassegul: I tried installing this before and it killed x - I had to fall back to failsafe res
[10:36] <LunaFreeState> spine55:  your welcome, don't think a newbie like me was much help though
[10:36] <bjames> maybe I set something up incorrectly
[10:36] <spine55> LunaFreeState: Hey you tried I appreciate it
[10:37] <lassegul> bjames: try running aticonfig, it should configure it automagically.
[10:37] <bjames> ok, doing so now...
[10:37] <Bodsda> just for everyone information beginners help is available in ##beginners-help & #ubuntuforums-beginners
[10:38] <amazen720> had to go all the way upstairs to plug into the ethernet cable, 3 mins with ethernet cable
[10:38] <damo22> how do i get specs of a computer in ubuntu?
[10:38] <damo22> eg ram + cpu
[10:38] <ikonia> damo22: what sort of information
[10:38] <rsk> damo22: what specs?
[10:38] <rsk> damo22: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:38] <ikonia> damo22: free shows ram cat /proc/cpu shows cpu, lshw shows "hardware"
[10:38] <rsk> damo22: cat /proc/meminfo
[10:38] <rsk> and there you have it
[10:38] <Matthai> Hi, anybody knows how to enable external screen on a IBM ThinkPad R50e laptop? In 7.10 worked fine...
[10:38] <damo22> ok thanks
[10:38] <bashca> Bodsda, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64810/
[10:39] <Bodsda> bashca, what r u trying to do?
[10:39] <zaturno> Yes, amd64 is currently not supported, only i386. I hope to fix that soon.
[10:39] <zaturno> In the meantime you have to follow the steps "Build your own packages (all architectures)" on http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net.
[10:39] <zaturno> __________________
[10:39] <zaturno> moblock-control - managing moblock easily
[10:39] <zaturno> http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net - moblock-control development and repository for moblock Debian packages
[10:39] <FloodBot1> zaturno: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <Bodsda> !repeat !paste | zaturno
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat !paste - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <bashca> when doing reboot  i will get error xrdb command not found ???
[10:39] <Bodsda> !repeat | zaturno
[10:39] <ubotu> zaturno: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:39] <Bodsda> !paste | zaturno
[10:39] <ubotu> zaturno: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:39] <bashca> Bodsda, when doing reboot  i will get error xrdb command not found ???
[10:40] <bjames> lassegul: as I suspected, the lack of "Driver ..." line in my xorg.conf is the problem
[10:40] <zaturno> sorry
[10:40] <ikonia> bashca: we saw you the first time
[10:40] <lassegul> bjames: so it did the trick?
[10:40] <damo22> is there a gui that shows similar specs ?
[10:40] <bjames> lassegul: no, it complained about the missing Driver line
[10:40] <zaturno> but i have amd64 and i want to install moblock
[10:40] <bashca> ikonia, hi
[10:40] <damo22> i just want a summary of those specs in a gui is there anything ?
[10:41] <ikonia> damo22: right click on "computer" the same way in windows ?
[10:41] <lassegul> bjames: but when running aticonfig it adds Driver to you xorg.conf, doesnt it?
[10:41] <DistroJockey> damo22: menu  System - Administration - System Monitor
[10:41] <bjames> it doesn't appear to
[10:41] <bjames> I think it might replace the current Driver line
[10:41] <damo22> ikonia: im using xubuntu do you know the command for it
[10:41] <tzakieta> hello
[10:41] <bjames> and as it can't find it, it's fallen over
[10:41] <ikonia> damo22: no, it's a gnome thing
[10:41] <bjames> I'll try adding a dummy one...
[10:41] <lassegul> bjames: do so. i have to go to lunch now, bb in 30 mins
[10:41] <bjames> ok
[10:41] <bjames> thanks for your help
[10:42] <Bodsda> bashca, im not im afraid if you dont get an answer in a few mins maybe pop into #ubuntu-ops (where all the old guys live) although you may et shouted at
[10:43] <bashca> Bodsda, thanks
[10:43] <ikonia> Bodsda: why are you suggesting someone goes into #ubuntu-ops for support ?
[10:43] <Carbonflux> does anyone know if I can use the 8.04 iso to upgrade a existing 7.10 install ?
[10:43] <mludi> hi, I softlinked sh to bash and now I am getting errors with the bash tab path completion. can anybody reproduce, confirm?
[10:43] <thenetduck_> can someone help me get "ThinkFinger" installed?
[10:44] <DistroJockey> damo22: ohh, sorry, when I replied I assumed you were using Gnome as this is the #ubuntu channel. Someone in #xubuntu would know better.
[10:44] <mludi> (with sh as default shell"
[10:44] <Bodsda> ikonia, because their not etting support here and they still can give support if we can answer the qustion
[10:44] <Lokii-> !buildessentials
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <Bodsda> can=cant
[10:44] <ikonia> Bodsda: no ! that channel is not for support
[10:44] <Lokii-> !build-essentials
[10:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:44] <bjames> !build-essential
[10:44] <ikonia> Bodsda: do not give that channel out as a support channel
[10:45] <Bodsda> ikonia, ok so il just let him sit there for another week -- i never said it was a support channel i said thats where all the old wise people live
[10:45] <ikonia> Bodsda: yes, he should sit hear waiting for support
[10:45] <ikonia> Bodsda: and you did say if could get support there
[10:46] <tzakieta> hi . i have a problem : in /media i'm missing all my ntfs drives ( except cdrom & floppy) , but in Computer  it shows all the drives but 1 ( ubuntu 8.04)
[10:46] <tzakieta> can anyone give me a hint?
[10:46] <Bodsda> ikonia, erm if you wanna argue about this then join #leavemealone
[10:46] <DistroJockey> ikonia: Bodsda: no they should try #xubuntu for support
[10:46] <rudolhgrf> Anyone have any recommendations for a mailserver configuration for the following: Spam protection, Virus Protection, Virtual users and domains (POP/IMAP/Webmail) access.  Any configs that you like ?
[10:46] <ikonia> Bodsda: I'm not arguing, I'm requesting you don't direct people to -ops channels for support questions
[10:46] <zaturno> I want to know if I can install moblock in  ubuntu 8.04 amd64 bit?
[10:47] <ikonia> zaturno: is there a package for it ?
[10:47] <ere4si> tzakieta: look in /etc/fstab for where they are mounted
[10:47] <bashca> ikonia, am not join ubuntu-ops for joking am just was  advice to join there  ...
[10:47] <LSD|Ninja> tzakieta: there's some VFS voodoo going on, I'm not sure if they actually get mounted anywhere
[10:47] <ikonia> bashca: I know, you where given bad advice. Please ignore it
[10:47] <bashca> so ikonia  if u don't want help so please don't msg me again
[10:47] <zaturno> i dont knoe
[10:47] <krupa^> hello all! hello everyone! how can i upgrade ubuntu 7.10 to 8 in shell? (no gui) ... thanks!
[10:47] <tzakieta> ty both
[10:47] <ikonia> zaturno: look in synaptic
[10:47] <__knight> Hello, I get this problem in Ubuntu 8.04 when trying to use apt-get dist-upgrade : Unpacking replacement coreutils ...
[10:47] <__knight> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/coreutils_6.10-3ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:47] <__knight>  unable to make backup link of `./bin/ls' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[10:47] <__knight> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:47] <FloodBot1> __knight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <zaturno> sunaptic don't have it
[10:48] <ikonia> zaturno: have you got all the repositories enabled
[10:48] <LSD|Ninja> krupa^: if you manually update your sources list and run apt-get update && apt-get distr-upgrade that should ort you out
[10:48] <FooAtari> quick question.  I dont remember having this problem installing 7.10 but when insgalling 8.4 when the install gui usually come up the screen goes black and my monitor since it can't display this video mod.  optimum res 1680x1050.  can i change the resolution the install gui runs at?
[10:48] <immesys> Hey, does anybody know why slocate was replaced with locate in hardy?
[10:48] <ere4si> __knight: did you use sudo?
[10:48] <LSD|Ninja> krupa^: read up on how the mothership handles it, it shouldn't be too diff in Ubuntu
[10:48] <FooAtari> since=says
[10:48] <Carbonflux> I can use the 8.04 iso ( CD ) to upgrade a existing 7.10 install ?
[10:48] <__knight> yes, i'm doing it under root
[10:48] <zaturno> yes i have all repositories enabled
[10:49] <zaturno> but i dont see moblock
[10:49] <ikonia> zaturno: then there is not an ubuntu package available.
[10:49] <LSD|Ninja> zaturno: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[10:49] <__knight> and I cannot enter synaptic package manager either -.-
[10:49] <ere4si> !info moblock
[10:49] <ubotu> Package moblock does not exist in hardy
[10:49] <thenetduck_> stupid thinkfinger doesn't work
[10:49] <ikonia> zaturno: then there is no package for it
[10:50] <zaturno> you see
[10:50] <ere4si> __knight: does your user have admin rights then...?
[10:50] <zaturno> ubotu> Package moblock does not exist in hardy
[10:50] <DistroJockey> Carbonflux: depends on which CD iso of 8.04 you have. Did you stick it in the drive, if it's the right one it will probably ask if you want to upgrade.
[10:50] <koshari> fooatari you could try pressing f4 at the boot menu and choosing safe vide mode
[10:50] <__knight> yes
[10:50] <tzakieta> ere4si:  in /fstab i only have the ext3, swap cdrom& floppy :-s
[10:50] <FooAtari> yeah just trying that now koshari lol, thanks though :)
[10:50] <Carbonflux> DistroJockey, it is the desktop i386 iso
[10:50] <ikonia> zaturno: yes, I see. So the answer to your question is "no you cannot install moblock on amd64 from the ubuntu repo's"
[10:50] <__knight> in 7.10 i got a screen with the auth and after that all went nice, since i upgraded most of the things are screwed up
[10:50] <immesys> Does anybody know why slocate was replaced with locate in hardy? Seems like a move in the opposite direction
[10:51] <Carbonflux> DistroJockey, I don't think it had a upgrade option when I booted :|
[10:51] <ikonia> immesys: no idea, does it matter ?
[10:51] <sa> hi everyone
[10:51] <figuringout> i just got fglrx drivers for my ATI Radeon Xpress 200. My fretsonfire does not seem o work that well. what tool do I use to benchmark test graphics/3D performance? i'm on edgy
[10:51] <immesys> ikonia: yes, ubuntu is supposed to be secure and locate isn't
[10:51] <DistroJockey> Carbonflux: if you boot into 7.10 then stick the disc in, that may do it
[10:51] <zaturno> ikonia so any program like that for amd64
[10:51] <zaturno> ?
[10:51] <zaturno> like moblock
[10:52] <sa> i just installed the 8.04. was using 7.10 before. Now all my data that i had in my home folder in 7.10 is placed as media
[10:52] <ikonia> zaturno: not that I'm aware of
[10:52] <Carbonflux> DistroJockey, ok, heh have to figure out how to do that, I am trying it in a virtual box first :) thanks for clues tho
[10:52] <ikonia> immesys: log a bug
[10:52] <sa> it is not integrated with the 8.04
[10:52] <ikonia> immesys: you should get a response from the maintainer which will be fact
[10:52] <sa> how can i slove this?
[10:52] <sa> or rather, what did i do wrong during installation? cant figure it out
[10:53] <LSD|Ninja> figuringout: Has it worked OK in the past? That's an integrated GPU which don't generally perform as well as a dedicated solution to begin with not to mention the fglrx drivers don't perform nearly as well as the Windows Catalyst drivers
[10:53] <immesys> ikonia: I wanted to check on irc before I filed a bug, maybe I'll bring it up in ubuntu-devel
[10:53] <ere4si> sa: you didn't mount it as /home during the install
[10:53] <DistroJockey> Carbonflux: ahh, no problem. In the root directory of the CD there will be a file called  cdromupgrade  if the CD supports upgrading
[10:53] <sa> ere4si: you mean my home directory?
[10:53] <ikonia> immesys: rather than get opinions on that, I'd do a bug to get a factual response from the maintainer
[10:53] <ere4si> sa: yep
[10:53] <void^> immesys: on my hardy installation it's actually mlocate, not locate.
[10:53] <sa> ere4si: true, i only installed and mounted the root
[10:53] <ere4si> sa: the partition it resides on
[10:54] <Gidx> still no wireless !!! i hate broadcom !! and i wanna throw this stupid HP through the window !!!!!!!!!
[10:54] <ere4si> sa: if it is a new install then redo it
[10:54] <immesys> void^: okay, maybe thats why my slocate scripts broke, I just saw that slocate wasn't installed
[10:54] <sa> ere4si: as in, i formatted the partition where ubuntu is installed on and only mounted that partition
[10:54] <sa> ere4si: I left swap and /home without mounting
[10:55] <sa> ere4si: ok, Thanx...again
[10:55] <DistroJockey> sa: just need a change to fstab me thinks
[10:55] <sa> DistroJockey: which is?
[10:55] <ere4si> sa: you need to call the partition that has your /home on it /home during install
[10:55] <DistroJockey> sa: file is:   /etc/fstab
[10:55] <sa> ere4si: yes, ok
[10:56] <Gilou> Gidx> what chipset does your wifi nic have?
[10:56] <DistroJockey> sa: there will be an entry for  /home
[10:56] <ere4si> sa: DistroJockey makes a point - you can remount it in /etc/fstab
[10:56] <DistroJockey> sa: make a backup of that file before changing it ofcourse
[10:56] <sa> ere4si: so i dont need to resinstall you mean
[10:57] <Gidx> Gilou, Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[10:57] <ere4si> sa: yep
[10:57] <DistroJockey> sa: nope, you just did that :)
[10:57] <Gidx> Gilou, i tried every online guide
[10:57] <Gidx> nothing is working !
[10:57] <Tha_Stig> hey, i was wondering if there is a distribution of ubuntu for HTC handheld devices?
[10:57] <ere4si> sa: edit /etc/fstab and rename the mount point
[10:57] <Gilou> Gidx> ah :/
[10:57] <sa> DistroJockey: cool, thanx :)
[10:57] <Gilou> well, purchase a linux friendly one :)
[10:57] <sa> ere4si: let me try
[10:57] <DistroJockey> sa: you're welcome :)
[10:57] <Gidx> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[10:58] <Gidx> iwconfig
[10:58] <Gidx> lo        no wireless extensions.
[10:58] <Gidx> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[10:58] <Gilou> are there native drivers for it?
[10:58] <ere4si> sa: DistroJockey may be able to help more - I have to go for a bit
[10:58] <Gilou> I guess you looked for that already
[10:58] <IntangibleLiquid> is it possible to safely remove evolution?
[10:58] <Gidx> doesn't even show the wlan
[10:58] <sa> ere4si: ok, thank you
[10:58] <DistroJockey> ere4si: later, I'll try :)
[10:58] <changehome> sorry again, now i am mounting a networkdrive, i added "//servername/sharename  /media/mountname  cifs  username=myusername,password=mypassword  0  0" to my /etc/fstab, saved, restarted but i cant seem to find the folder, am i doing something wrong? btw i am using a domain account
[10:58] <barata> SHOOT! ... I could patch vmware and it runs ... but then I get this error with vmmon
[10:58] <barata> Version mismatch
[10:58] <barata> expecting 161.0, got 167.0
[10:58] <barata> what's going on?
[10:59] <sa> DistroJockey: i get the message : no write permission for file /etc/fstab
[10:59] <Gidx> and i don't even know how to clean up all the mess from the previous attempts :S
[10:59] <DistroJockey> sa: yeah, you will need to backup and edit it using  sudo
[10:59] <sa> DistroJockey: now I am getting the message unknown mime-typ
[10:59] <sa> DistroJockey: type
[10:59] <DistroJockey> sa: you can pastbinit if you are unsure or need help
[11:00] <eth01> yeah, modify your apache2 config or whatever
[11:00] <nume> i
[11:00] <yamas> I am having some problems installing 8.04 on a macbook, dual boot with X. Anyone have any experience of this?
[11:00] <sa> DistroJockey: Which is?
[11:00] <DistroJockey> sa:  sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup
[11:00] <DistroJockey> !pastebin | sa
[11:00] <ubotu> sa: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:00] <sa> DistroJockey: aha
[11:01] <Gidx> Bodsda ?
[11:01] <ikonia> yamas: doesn't your boot manager have to be boot camp to dual boot anything with OS X ?
[11:01] <hacx> hello :-) anyone knows if it is safe to uprade to Hardy Heron under Fluxbuntu?
[11:01] <DistroJockey> sa: then   sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:01] <Bodsda> Gidx, ello?
[11:01] <sa> DistroJockey: where does the file backup to?
[11:01] <Xsylotte> hi, how to uninstall flash player from firefox ?
[11:01] <Gidx> Bodsda, i followed the guide that you gave me (the broadcome wlan issue)
[11:01] <aaron444> hi every1!!
[11:01] <Gidx> Bodsda, still not working
[11:02] <DistroJockey> sa: the command I gave will have it in the same location as the original
[11:02] <DistroJockey> sa: /in /etc
[11:02] <Bodsda> Gidx, ok dude do me a favour and come to this channel (its quieter) ##beginners-help
[11:02] <sa> distro
[11:02] <aaron444> hello? plz tell me if this message is getin throo
[11:02] <sa> DistroJockey: ok, cool
[11:02] <ikonia> aaron444: it is
[11:02] <LSD|Ninja> ikonia: Boot Camp isn't a boot manager
[11:02] <aaron444> k
[11:02] <yamas> yes I have a boot manager running. I have run bootcamp and created a 5gb partition which I then deleted from the hardy partition manager and recrreated ext3 mount point /  and a 1gb /swap I can see the partition in the boot manager but when I try to boot I get missing opertaing system
[11:03] <Xsylotte> anyone ?
[11:03] <sa> !pastebin | sa
[11:03] <ikonia> LSD|Ninja: I thought it was a bios emmulator layer
[11:03] <Gidx> Bodsda, in that channel i cannot talk
[11:03] <DistroJockey> sa: if you want, run this:   sudo apt-get pastebinit && cat /etc/fstab
[11:03] <Gidx> it's +m
[11:04] <ikonia> yamas: this is where it seems to fall over you'll need grub to boot ubuntu as far as I'm aware on a mac
[11:04] <DistroJockey> sa: sudo apt-get install pastebinit    rather^
[11:04] <ushi_laptop> right, then upgrade to 8.04 has not worked. :( hosed my system, losing the LAN on the motherboard and my NVIDA drivers. this sucks
[11:04] <DistroJockey> sa: k, I need to redo that
[11:04] <LSD|Ninja> yamas: where did you tell Ubuntu to put grub?
[11:05] <aaron444> Im probably a n00b to you all, i just switched from windows to linux cuz linux actually works, Would i b able to get help on how to install GTK+ Engine things, i download them and in the readme it tells me to do some kinda "Make Install" "Install" commands and stuff but i have no idea what todo
[11:05] <DistroJockey> sa:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[11:05] <ikonia> aaron444: check in synaptic package manager first to see if ubuntu has a packaged version available to you
[11:06] <Ronald> Does anybody use 'checkgmail' on Hardy?
[11:06] <Xsylotte> anyone pls ?
[11:06] <aaron444> a pakaged what? sorry
[11:06] <Ronald> and notices a very slow startup/opening of preferences?
[11:06] <sa> DistroJockey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64812/
[11:06] <Gnine> !synaptic | aaron444
[11:06] <ubotu> aaron444: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:06] <ikonia> aaron444: have you looked at the ubuntu package manager yet ?
[11:06] <ricanelite> is there ways you could speed up Ubuntu Linux?
[11:06] <ikonia> ricanelite: in what respect ?
[11:07] <DistroJockey> sa: k, and what device is you home on now?
[11:07] <DistroJockey> your^
[11:07] <cristi1990> how do i compile a .cpp file (i still have ubuntu hardy heron)
[11:07] <ricanelite> Dont know, Just curious
[11:07] <Xsylotte> how to change flash player in firefox ?
[11:07] <rubenverweij> use gcc
[11:07] <sa> DistroJockey: you mean the current? on sda1
[11:07] <ikonia> cristi1990: depends on the file
[11:07] <ricanelite> if there is a tweak out there that will speed up Ubuntu linux
[11:07] <ricanelite> I know there is a application call preload
[11:07] <sa> DistroJockey: the old /home was on sda2. which is the largest partition
[11:07] <cristi1990> rubenverweij: ty
[11:08] <DistroJockey> sa: the one where all your data is
[11:08] <ikonia> ricanelite: use better drivers, free more memory, remove unusued software, etc etc
[11:08] <cristi1990> ikonia: what do you mean? it's a standard cpp file
[11:08] <pwang> hi guys, i need some help on setting up a wireless broadband connection. it's the type where you have to connect then dial via wireless.
[11:08] <GNU_D> Hi, in the program Orka I have seen lots of voices like Macedonian, Russian etc.. My question is in what package are these voices, cause I can't find them as festival-(lang_name), any suggestion ?
[11:08] <ricanelite> okay
[11:08] <ikonia> cristi1990: it's a standard cpp file ??? what does it do, is it linked against anything
[11:08] <aaron444> kk, i will, ty, and i have 1 more prob, in game like Planet Penguin, the sound is all stuffed up and muffeld and it wont stay in full-screen for more than 5 secs, this happened after i re-installed linux
[11:08] <figuringout> i'm trying to get ATI fglrx drivers working. my fglrxinfo display Mesa 3D. i need to change it, 3D acc sucks currently
[11:08] <sa> DistroJockey: /sda1 = root=15GB. /sda2 = all the data
[11:08] <sa> DistroJockey: as in, private data
[11:08] <bjames> figuringout: in the same boat
[11:08] <ricanelite> ikonia, now when you say use better drivers? How can you tell if you are using the right driver for your hardware?
[11:09] <sa> DistroJockey: but right now the /home is on /sda1
[11:09] <LSD|Ninja> yamas: you have to tell Ubuntu to install grub into the virtual MBR part of the volume, not the beginning of the drive. Once that's done you can use the boot menu in the firmware (and possibly the startup disk control panel in OSX as well, I forget) to boot Ubuntu. It'll still say "Windows" but ignore that. If you don't want to do that, look into installing a third part boot manager such as rEFIt
[11:09] <figuringout> me/ and bjames really need help with fglrx
[11:09] <ikonia> ricanelite: look at what kernel modules are loaded and matching your hardware, then use google to research opinion on driver options
[11:09] <cristi1990> ikonia: it just gets info from stdin and should print on the stdout (bad english xD)
[11:09] <ikonia> cristi1990: gcc $file then
[11:09] <ikonia> cristi1990: gcc -o $file
[11:09] <DistroJockey> sa: hmm, from your fstab, it says sda2 is swap
[11:10] <ricanelite> okay
[11:10] <gunpuncher> how can I cause apt-get to download all ubuntu sources, and once they are downloaded where are they stored in the filesystem?  Are they under /usr/src?
[11:10] <dna_> ubuntu server needs more documentation and sites :(
[11:10] <akonkwa> how do i know wich graphic card I have ?
[11:10] <pwang> hi guys, i need some help on setting up a wireless broadband connection. it's the type where you have to connect then dial via wireless.
[11:10] <LSD|Ninja> akonkwa: lspci
[11:10] <bjames> figuringout: do you want to join "ati_gfx_problem" and let me know your problem
[11:10] <ikonia> dna_: does it, what is it lacking ?
[11:10] <yamas> I am using REFIt!?
[11:10] <sa> DistroJockey: hmm
[11:10] <DistroJockey> sa: you said it's mounted under media right? Maybe  mount  will tell where
[11:11] <Xsylotte> nothing..synaptic..
[11:11] <Novek> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <-- Free downloads , Fun . Tutorials etc.......... plz register :) thanx
[11:11] <sa> DistroJockey: then can it be /sda 3?
[11:11] <Novek> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <-- Free downloads , Fun . Tutorials etc.......... plz register :) thanx
[11:11] <ikonia> Novek: please stop spamming
[11:11] <cristi1990> ikonia: do you know any ui for gcc? or any compiler with ui?
[11:11] <DistroJockey> sa: could be, try:   mount
[11:11] <sa> DistroJockey: it should be /sda3 then
[11:11] <ikonia> cristi1990: are you serious ?
[11:11] <ikonia> cristi1990: it's one command
[11:11] <ikonia> cristi1990: it's not an IDE
[11:12] <changehome> sorry again, now i am mounting a networkdrive, i added "//servername/sharename  /media/mountname  cifs  username=myusername,password=mypassword  0  0" to my /etc/fstab, saved, restarted but i cant seem to find the folder, am i doing something wrong? btw i am using a domain account
[11:12] <cky> cristi1990: Look at Eclipse, or NetBeans, or Emacs....
[11:12] <ikonia> cristi1990: it's a compiler, not a full ide environment. Look at eclipse if you want an IDE
[11:12] <cky> cristi1990: In Windows, there's also Dev-C++....
[11:12] <LSD|Ninja> Does Eclipse do C/C++ or just Java?
[11:12] <cristi1990> ikonia: ok
[11:12] <DistroJockey> sa:  here's my fstab for example:  http://pastebin.com/f696453a3
[11:12] <cky> LSD|Ninja: eclipse-cdt does C++.
[11:12] <cristi1990> cky: thank you :)
[11:12] <ikonia> LSD|Ninja: even does perl now
[11:13] <gunpuncher> how do I download dev sources for ubuntu, and where are they stored
[11:13] <Novek>  http://ircx.forum0.info/  <-- Free downloads , Fun . Tutorials etc.......... plz register :) thanx
[11:13] <sa> DistroJockey: why are there 2 swaps?
[11:13] <DistroJockey> sa: had another hdd in at the time of install that had a swap
[11:14] <DistroJockey> sa: it's since been removed :)
[11:14] <pwang> hi guys, i need some help on setting up a wireless broadband connection. it's the type where you have to connect then dial via wireless. could anyone help me? thanx.
[11:14] <sa> DistroJockey: aha...and what does the number UUID stand for? Does it matter that i use your numbers?
[11:14] <DistroJockey> sa: the command   blkid   will give you the UUID of a device
[11:14] <gunpuncher> how do I download dev sources for ubuntu, and where are they stored on the filesystem
[11:14] <DistroJockey> sa: use   sudo blkid   though :)
[11:15] <Gnine> !uuid | sa
[11:15] <ubotu> sa: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:15] <sa> DistroJockey: so i need to change that number right?
[11:15] <Idan> Hello all, what is the replacement kernel paramater for 'ec_intr=0'  ??
[11:15] <aaron444> i suck so much, i cant work it out, i cant find out what a " make Install" cammand is and how to use it... :(
[11:15] <DistroJockey> sa: yep, you need to get the right UUID for the device
[11:15] <gunpuncher> aaron if you don't know you shouldn't be trying to use it
[11:16] <sa> DistroJockey:
[11:16] <sa> DistroJockey: cool
[11:16] <cky> aaron444: You need to install build-essential first.
[11:16] <DistroJockey> sa: was that device a previous  /home  area?
[11:16] <cky> aaron444: Then run ./configure inside a source directory, then make, then sudo make install
[11:16] <gunpuncher> where is the source code located for hardy
[11:16] <Idan> What is the replacement kernel paramater for 'ec_intr=0'  ?
[11:16] <sa> DistroJockey: Yes, /sda3 was a previous /home
[11:16] <gunpuncher> why is this so hard to find out
[11:16] <DistroJockey> sa: do you have a backup of it elsewhere also?
[11:16] <cky> gunpuncher: You nee to say what sources you are looking for.
[11:17] <gunpuncher> cky: All sources.
[11:17] <sa> DistroJockey: No. :)
[11:17] <cky> gunpuncher: Go to the pool directory in any Ubuntu archive.
[11:17] <Gnine> command make is to compile software from source (usually a .bin type file) , aaron444
[11:17] <DistroJockey> sa: would strongly advise doing so
[11:17] <ushi_laptop> Why am I missing the "build" dir in my /lib/modules/2.blah/ dir? I am trying to install my LAN network driver from source and it won't "make clean modules"
[11:17] <aguy2> i think i killed the "add software" feature with adding lots of software
[11:17] <cky> You will find all the .orig.tar.gz files and .diff files that will allow you to get the sources.
[11:17] <aguy2> tat a time
[11:17] <ikonia> ushi_laptop: what card is it ?
[11:17] <gunpuncher> cky can one get it through synaptic
[11:17] <cky> gunpuncher: Yes.
[11:17] <sa> DistroJockey: ok
[11:17] <gunpuncher> how does one do that
[11:18] <DistroJockey> sa: not that this should break it, but, as they say, better to be safe than sorry :)
[11:18] <cky> gunpuncher: I don't know the synaptic command, but with apt-get, you can use apt-get source. e.g., apt-get source bash
[11:18] <gunpuncher> and once one receives them, where are they stored on the system
[11:18] <gunpuncher> ah
[11:18] <cky> gunpuncher: The current directory.
[11:18] <ushi_laptop> ikonia: it is motherboard...realtek 8168
[11:18] <gunpuncher> thanks cky
[11:18] <cky> gunpuncher: Good luck!
[11:18] <ikonia> ushi_laptop: the realtek is part of the kernel already is it not ?
[11:18] <aguy2> is it possible that after accepting the changes one has to wait for more than five minutes?
[11:18] <gunpuncher> I will dump my package list and get it all
[11:18] <lassegul> bjames: did it work out for you?
[11:19] <gunpuncher> I just like having sources :)
[11:19] <sa> DistroJockey: true. just that i dont really have time to backup the whole /home. My important stuffs are safe though :)
[11:19] <cky> gunpuncher: You may wish to mirror your archive pool to your local hard drive first. :-)
[11:19] <absnt> How do I backup my home dir to my ntfs drive from the live cd?
[11:19] <cky> gunpuncher: You can then add file:/// URLs to your /etc/apt/sources.list.
[11:19] <ushi_laptop> ikonia: in 7.10 it used the r8169 driver, which i turned off so i could install the r8168 driver which worked properly. on upgrading, i told it to keep my changed files, and now it can not see my LAN
[11:19] <d_avid> any people here now a reason why with pidgon .purple doesnt exist?
[11:19] <pwang> hi guys, i need some help on setting up a wireless broadband connection. it's the type where you have to connect then dial via wireless. could anyone help me? thanx.
[11:19] <ssdg> d_avid: pidgon?
[11:19] <ikonia> ushi_laptop: ah, as you've changed kernel versions. I see
[11:19] <d_avid> ssdg: pidgin...
[11:20] <cky> d_avid: It should. What happened to it?
[11:20] <kling0n> i think my firefox plugins are borked in hardy now... after  a bit of reinstalling and removing etc, i have ended up using firefox 2 again but installing totem-mozilla or one of the other media plugins doesn't work apparently... firefox: about:plugins only shows my java and flash
[11:20] <ssdg> d_avid: did you asked to see the hidden files (ctrl-H)
[11:20] <Gnine> !wireless | pwang
[11:20] <ubotu> pwang: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:20] <ssdg> ?
[11:20] <absnt> How do I backup my home dir to my ntfs drive from the live cd?
[11:20] <d_avid> cky: I just installed it .... wanted to copy my backup to it
[11:20] <ushi_laptop> ikonia: right the upgrade has cost me my LAN and NVIDA drivers I think ... if i could get the LAN up, that would be a big help
[11:20] <d_avid> cky: but the dir is not there somehow
[11:20] <kling0n> can someone tell me the plugin search path for firefox2 ?
[11:20] <sa> DistroJockey: sudo blkid is not working?
[11:20] <DistroJockey> sa: well, I've never done this before, but making a line like the one I have for my home in your fstab using the right UUID, should do the job
[11:20] <d_avid> cky: so ther is no alternate posseblity
[11:20] <ikonia> ushi_laptop: can you not use the in kernel driver to get you working ?
[11:20] <_julian> hi all
[11:20] <cky> d_avid: The directory will only exist after you run pidgin the first time.
[11:21] <ushi_laptop> ikonia: not sure how to do that? willing to try
[11:21] <_julian> are there somewhere ubuntu packages for kernel 2.6.25?
[11:21] <cky> d_avid: Normally the .purple directory is in your home directory.
[11:21] <DistroJockey> sa: should give a list of UUID's for each device
[11:21] <sa> DistroJockey: it doesnt...nothing happens except it looks like it is thinking
[11:21] <sa> DistroJockey: sudo blkid
[11:21] <d_avid> cky: I know it should be,... it's ran for the first time... didn't add any accounts tho..
[11:21] <absnt> How do I backup my home dir to my ntfs drive from the live cd?
[11:22] <cky> d_avid: Try "cd ~/.purple" and tell me what it says.
[11:22] <ikonia> ushi_laptop: just load the module
[11:22] <DistroJockey> sa: mine gives:  http://pastebin.com/fad3f579
[11:22] <d_avid> cky: hey.. it exists... I was looking in /home/user/.purple
[11:22] <sa> DistroJockey: hm
[11:23] <DistroJockey> sa: not sure what's up there
[11:23] <cky> d_avid: Hahaha.
[11:23] <sa> DistroJockey: i restarted the terminal. works now .)
[11:23] <|Dreams|> my pc keeps crashing and putting me back at the log on screen! :( help
[11:23] <aguy2> soory, lost connection
[11:23] <DistroJockey> sa: I ran:    sudo blkid | pastebinit
[11:23] <sa> DistroJockey: :)
[11:23] <d_avid> cky: it worked.. thanx!
[11:23] <DistroJockey> sa: ahh :)
[11:23] <cky> d_avid: No worries. :-)
[11:23] <JaseMelb> hi all, Im trying to get wireless with wep going on an acer 5672WLMi, it works without the wep, but doesnt with. If someone could pm pls.
[11:24] <aguy2> my apt-get isnt doing anything than showing the rotating mouse pointer, memory usage 100% ......... nice isn't it?
[11:24] <ssdg> nobody who use openvpn with network manager?
[11:24] <aguy2> not apt-get, the adding removing function
[11:24] <|Dreams|> anyone have any problems with amsn ? everytime i use it the pc crashes and puts me back at the log in screen
[11:24] <_julian> actual I suffer under frequent system freezes with 2.6.24, which I hope would be fixed with 2.6.25...
[11:24] <ushi_laptop> ikonia: alright, looks like that will work for now at least (sudo modprobe r8169)
[11:25] <sa> DistroJockey: http://pastebin.com/dd5322c8
[11:25] <cky> JaseMelb: Do you have a way to use WPA rather than WEP in your wireless network, by the way? Apparently if you use passphrases with WEP (rather than hex keys), different wireless devices encode that different ways.
[11:25] <lassegul> aguy2: does this happen every time? or just once?
[11:25] <ikonia> ushi_laptop: that should get you "working" at least
[11:25] <JaseMelb> ummm... yeah I can
[11:25] <ikonia> ushi_laptop: easier to fix with network access
[11:25] <JaseMelb> but it does a weird thing as well
[11:25] <gunpuncher> for i in `dpkg --get-selections | awk {'print $1'}`; do apt-get source $i; doe
[11:25] <gunpuncher> erk
[11:25] <JaseMelb> I have a netgear adsl modem/router
[11:25] <aguy2> lassegul: i installed 8.04 and choose all software i wanted. 15 minutes ago
[11:26] <aguy2> first try, but won't kill the process
[11:26] <cky> JaseMelb: I've never used NetGear as such, so I can't comment specifically, but I have used D-Link and Linksys and they both work well for me with WPA setup.
[11:26] <microwaver> ANyone having problems with brightness in 7.10?
[11:26] <JaseMelb> if I plug in with the lan & drop out the wireless encription & then try to connect with wireless it wont work. Nor will it work if I plug the lan cable back in. I actually have to restart the laptop to get the thing to connect to the router again. very odd.
[11:26] <aguy2> lassegul:  it looks as if it was working
[11:27] <cky> JaseMelb: How are you connecting using wireless?  At night, the ice-weasels come.
[11:27] <JaseMelb> um... I just installed the latest distrib. 8.04. Im using whatever is standard.
[11:27] <aguy2> memory back 2 normal
[11:27] <cky> JaseMelb: My experience with NetworkManager is that it just prompts you for the key and you type it in. Easy.
[11:27] <CVirus> gunpuncher: lots of friends say it's really slow
[11:27] <JaseMelb> I can try to change over to WPA security. It really does not matter (truth be told I realise it's better than WEP)
[11:27] <lassegul> aguy2: goodie. run it again and see what happens.
[11:27] <JaseMelb> aaah ok
[11:27] <gunpuncher> CVirus: slow in what respect
[11:27] <cky> JaseMelb: NetworkManager is the thing that looks like a computer screen, on the top-right-hand corner of your screen.
[11:28] <CVirus> gunpuncher: slow as in windows vista .. lol
[11:28] <figuringout> i'm trying to get ATI fglrx drivers working. my fglrxinfo display Mesa 3D. i need to change it, 3D acc sucks currently. any help?
[11:28] <CVirus> gunpuncher: even with special effects disabled
[11:28] <gunpuncher> "as in windows vista ... lol" in what respect
[11:28] <BoltClock> apparently there is a bunch of software i have to install first before i try to build anything else... is there a list of the general things i need?
[11:28] <aguy2> cancelling is not a problem?
[11:28] <JaseMelb> thanks for your help. My girlfriend is hooked on using it for studies. I'll give the WPA thing a go later
[11:28] <sa> DistroJockey: do you know what the SEC_TYPE"EXT 2" stands for?
[11:28] <gunpuncher> then they are noobs.
[11:28] <akonkwa_> I'm using 8.04 I have a D-link DWL-G122 usb wireless card And it doesn't seem to be recognized. Any help?
[11:28] <cky> JaseMelb: Sure thing!
[11:28] <CVirus> gunpuncher: cpu spikes happen all the time and some laptops over heat
[11:28] <JaseMelb> I dont think I have network manager then
[11:28] <cky> JaseMelb: Can you take a screen shot of your desktop and send it somewhere?
[11:28] <cky> JaseMelb: I would do the same here, but my NetworkManager crashed. :-(
[11:28] <gunpuncher> if cpu spikes happen, they need to figure out what process is causing the cpu to spike.
[11:29] <JaseMelb> its frustrating. Because it is the only thing to get going. Everything else has worked straight out of the box.
[11:29] <DistroJockey> sa: lowlevel partition type I assume
[11:29] <JaseMelb> It really is a great os.
[11:29] <gunpuncher> my guess is it would be the indexer, which I don't like
[11:29] <DistroJockey> sa: I guess yours should look like this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64814/
[11:29] <__knight> I hate ubuntu 8.04 -.-
[11:29] <CVirus> see ?
[11:29] <CVirus> __knight: why ?
[11:29] <cky> JaseMelb: Yeah, with NetworkManager wireless access is really easy, it just sometimes crashes, and I hope it's not what's been happening to you.
[11:29] <lassegul> aguy2: not a big problem. sudo apt-get -f install usually solves problemes like that.
[11:29] <__knight> i cannot replace coreutils
[11:29] <__knight> cannot see the crash report
[11:29] <microwaver> Can't get my wireless working on 7.10
[11:29] <__knight> nothing
[11:29] <cky> __knight: Why would you want to do that?
[11:30] <aguy2> btw: ubuntu 8.04 is the first distro that really works out of the box for my hp-pavillion dv 6012. i spent months for nothing, till now. THANKS TO HARDY HERON
[11:30] <__knight> well its a dist upgrade
[11:30] <aguy2> lassegul: ill try ... ty
[11:30] <aguy2> a nice one
[11:30] <gunpuncher> suckitude for noobs decreases with every dist upgrade, but there is always going to be a learning curve
[11:30] <lassegul> aguy2: np :)
[11:30] <cky> aguy2: Yes, it's nice, isn't it? I can now use my Compaq Presario laptop without it crashing all the time, on 8.04.
[11:30] <gunpuncher> personally, I had 0 problems whatever with it
[11:30] <__knight> looks like i'll have to install it from scratch
[11:30] <gunpuncher> but then I had 0 problems previously.
[11:30] <sa> DistroJockey: yes, that is what i changed it to. just wanted to make sure if i needed the ext2 also added
[11:31] <akonkwa_> I'm using 8.04 I have a D-link DWL-G122 usb wireless card And it doesn't seem to be recognized. Any help?
[11:31] <DistroJockey> sa: nope
[11:31] <gunpuncher> ndistwrapper
[11:31] <microwaver> got the same problem with a ... tada : broadcom in 7.10
[11:31] <cky> akonkwa_: USB wireless keys are generally not well supported. You might have luck with ndiswrapper, but maybe not.
[11:31] <gunpuncher> or whatever the current name is
[11:31] <sorsis> why my comp claims that it cannot recognize nvidia card allthought i have installed restricted drivers
[11:31] <aguy2> cky, my monitor in work doesnt resolution-bitch anymore :) it is great
[11:31] <cky> gunpuncher: Yes, that.
[11:31] <sa> DistroJockey: ok, restarting the comp now. cross your fingers. i will...really hard haha
[11:31] <CVirus> MSameerWork: done with it 7'alas .. hehe
[11:31]  * DistroJockey crosses his fingers
[11:31] <cky> aguy2: That's always a bonus. :-)
[11:32] <aguy2> its mucho more usable now
[11:32] <sa> DistroJockey: brb to tell you what happened
[11:32] <cky> akonkwa_: You will want to read help.ubuntu.com and search for help with ndiswrapper.
[11:32] <microwaver> Any broadcom wireless card 'users' here?
[11:32] <DistroJockey> sa: cool. break a leg
[11:32] <akonkwa_> cky , thanks , I'll try that
[11:32] <cky> microwaver: Yes.
[11:32] <slytherin> microwaver: I am
[11:32] <microwaver> cky, does it work ?
[11:32] <void^> akonkwa_: depends on the revision of the device - they come with various different chipsets. see http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list_c-f/
[11:32] <cky> microwaver: Using b43, not ndiswrapper.
[11:32] <microwaver> slytherin, does yours work?
[11:32] <cky> microwaver: I'm using it right now.
[11:33] <slytherin> microwaver: yes, using b43 driver. Of course you will need the firmware
[11:33] <microwaver> cky, just dsudo-apt-get install b43, and sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper
[11:33] <cky> microwaver: I used the backported b43 driver from http://wireless.kernel.org/
[11:33] <cky> microwaver: Not quite.
[11:33] <cky> microwaver: Read that site. It will help you. :-)
[11:33] <microwaver> cky, thank you sir :)
[11:33] <gunpuncher> CVirus: I'm still waiting for the explanation of why your friends think 8.04 is slow
[11:33] <cky> microwaver: The firmware that slytherin mentions is also linked to from that site.
[11:34] <cky> microwaver: No worries. :-P
[11:34] <microwaver> cky, because at the moment ist is looked at like a USB controller thingy
[11:34] <gunpuncher> works for me perfectly fine on multiple hardware
[11:34] <cky> microwaver: If your Broadcom device is actually a USB, you may not have luck. Just beware.
[11:34] <cky> microwaver: My Broadcom is Mini-PCIe.
[11:34] <CVirus> gunpuncher: will ask my friends first
[11:34] <microwaver> cky, how to check :D
[11:34] <gunpuncher> but then I never install indexers
[11:34] <slytherin> microwaver: no, b43 is driver, it is not a package. you will need to install package b43-fwcutter which downloads and extracts firmware. the package is in universe
[11:34] <cky> microwaver: Try lspci and see if Broadcom is listed. Then try lsusb.
[11:34] <gunpuncher> cvirus: how long have they been using unix
[11:35] <akonkwa_> void^, thanx
[11:35] <CVirus> gunpuncher: a couple of days
[11:35] <aguy2> whats better? remove/add software or synaptic. or is there equality?
[11:35] <microwaver> cky, can I send the output to you?
[11:35] <cky> microwaver: Use your local pastebin. :-)
[11:35] <cky> !pastebin
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:35] <microwaver> slytherin, i'll check that site cky sent me. :)
[11:35] <slytherin> aguy2: synaptic is more advanced. add/remove is for newbies
[11:35] <microwaver> cky, 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 USB Controller (rev 01)
[11:35] <microwaver> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[11:35] <microwaver> 08:01.0 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSP
[11:36] <oddar> im having problems with network-scanning since installing HardyHeron, suggestions?
[11:36] <aguy2> i had this feeling
[11:36] <microwaver> cky, microwaver@micro-laptop:~$ lsusb
[11:36] <microwaver> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:36] <microwaver> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:36] <microwaver> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:36] <microwaver> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:36] <microwaver> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc.
[11:36] <FloodBot1> microwaver: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <CVirus> bo
[11:36] <aguy2> talways used synaptic for medibuntu and stuff
[11:36] <aguy2> thx
[11:36] <cky> microwaver: Sorry, pastebin means use that paste.ubuntu-nl.org site.
[11:36] <slytherin> microwaver: the instructions on the site might be confusing if you have never done it before. It was the case for me. IMHO, fwcutter is an easier way
[11:36] <gunpuncher> CVirus: so you would repeat the opinion of people who have used unix for a couple of days?
[11:36] <Dar1us> can someone explain the right way to get WPA working when the machine boots? (ie I don't want to enter a password in network manager)
[11:36] <cky> slytherin: fwcutter is required, but that site is required if your card is 4311/4312 rev2.
[11:36] <cky> slytherin: As mine is.
[11:36] <microwaver> slytherin, the package you mentioned?
[11:37] <JaseMelb> hey cky, any reason why the wep code isnt working since I know it is the same as in winxp?
[11:37] <slytherin> microwaver: yes
[11:37] <JaseMelb> just curious
[11:37] <gunpuncher> ubuntu is far, far faster than vista on equivalent hardware, the fact that anyone would compare the two is hilarious
[11:37] <oupa> I'm struggling to share a printer between two hardy systems. one is Kubuntu w/printer the other is Ubuntu. It used to 'just work'. Now broken.  Give me a sec, I have done this before.
[11:37] <CVirus> gunpuncher: I'm recommending ubuntu for all my friends
[11:37] <gunpuncher> ikonia: you think vista is faster than ubuntu?
[11:38] <cky> JaseMelb: Umm, I actually don't have a ready answer, sorry, but the first thing I'd do is Google. :-)
[11:38] <CVirus> gunpuncher: and suddenly 2-3 of them started complaining about hardy ... which is weird
[11:38] <cky> microwaver: Thanks. :-)
[11:38] <ikonia> gunpuncher: thats not what I said, but it can be, it can be slower, it depends on the users needs and setup
[11:38] <gunpuncher> cvirus yes that is strange.
[11:38] <gunpuncher> ikonia: why is my statement hilarious to you
[11:38] <CVirus> gunpuncher: true
[11:38] <ikonia> gunpuncher: because it's subjective, but this is offtopic
[11:38] <gunpuncher> cvirus most likely the processor spikes are caused by the indexer
[11:39] <gunpuncher> ikonia: why did you bring it up
[11:39] <ikonia> gunpuncher: I didn't mean to, I was on auto pilot
[11:39] <ganu> how to give write permission to a folder which is in a vista computer connected through lan
[11:39] <cky> Dar1us: First read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian
[11:39] <CVirus> gunpuncher: is that something new added to hardy ?
[11:39] <garu> hi everyone
[11:39] <gunpuncher> no it's been around for a while
[11:39] <cky> Dar1us: You will then need to set up a file, mode 600 owned by root, with your WPA-PSA key.
[11:39] <microwaver> slytherin, can't seem to get the package b43-fwcutter
[11:39] <Dar1us> cky: i don't have that readme :(
[11:39] <H1> Good Evening
[11:40] <H1> May I ask a question please about Ubuntu?
[11:40] <DistroJockey> !hi | H1
[11:40] <ubotu> H1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:40] <cky> Dar1us: What?! It will exist if you have wireless-tools installed, which you surely must have if you have wireless working.
[11:40] <microwaver> !love
[11:40] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[11:40] <Dar1us> cky: I can edit wpa_supplicant.conf - I have the same network working in FreeBSD, but I am not sure how to get it to run at boot properly
[11:40] <Dar1us> H1: ask, don't ask to ask..
[11:40] <WormDrink> hello
[11:40] <Dar1us> cky: well.. I don't :)
[11:40] <microwaver> cky, anything usefull in the output?
[11:40] <cky> Dar1us: Debian (and therefore Ubuntu) doesn't involved editing wpa_supplicant.conf.
[11:40] <H1> How do i get this to work? :( i cant install any drivers, or even find any :( i have no sound and no native video drivers ;(
[11:40] <microwaver> !hi | WormDrink
[11:40] <ubotu> WormDrink: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:40] <cky> Dar1us: You edit your /etc/network/interfaces instead.
[11:41] <slytherin> microwaver: as i said, it is universe repository, do you have it enabled?
[11:41] <Dar1us> cky: hmm well contrary to google :(
[11:41] <cky> Dar1us: You will need to make sure you have wireless-tools installed.
[11:41] <Dar1us> cky: eg http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[11:41] <cky> microwaver: I'm looking at it now.
[11:41] <noob-africa> hi all
[11:41] <JaseMelb> I had a look through google for a couple of hours last night. Struggled to find anything specific.
[11:41] <cky> microwaver: I wish there were 5 of me around. :-P
[11:41] <WormDrink> whenever i try to use system > Screen Reso ubuntu says it doesnt support randr extensions to gnome
[11:41] <garu> why is that when I open firefox, my 2 cores in the computer start working at 80/90%?
[11:41] <microwaver> cky, take your time :)
[11:41] <DistroJockey> Hi noob-africa, wb :)
[11:41] <WormDrink> how do i fix this ?
[11:41] <JaseMelb> is there a command to release the lan connection so I can renew it?
[11:41] <noob-africa> DistroJockey: hi. how r u?
[11:41] <Dar1us> cky: I have wireless-tools installed
[11:41] <cky> microwaver: Your BCM4310 is right on the money. That website will help you get that working too.
[11:41] <microwaver> slytherin, under the Ubuntu software tab
[11:41] <slytherin> WindowsNoob: Which graphics card?
[11:41] <ere4si> garu: that's a common complaint
[11:41] <blackjackel> where do i configure ports for the firewall in hardy?
[11:41] <ecc`> hi
[11:41] <microwaver> cky, grand :)
[11:42] <Dar1us> cky: man 5 interfaces doesn't mention WPA
[11:42] <DistroJockey> noob-africa: pretty good here thanks. And you?
[11:42] <garu> I thought ubuntu was supposed to run smoothly in even a not so powerful computer, and I got a powerful one!
[11:42] <ecc`> you tell me ;)
[11:42] <microwaver> cky, can i astonish my windoze colleagues :P
[11:42] <WindowsNoob> Nvidia 8800 GTX
[11:42] <soon> Anyone here using evolution with google mail/calendar/contacts?
[11:42] <garu> ere4si any idea why?
[11:42] <WindowsNoob> I have the drivers but cannot install them, it says i need to be logged in as root
[11:42] <lassegul> garu: it is firefox that uses your cpus?
[11:42] <cky> Dar1us: No, it doesn't. The wireless config stuff is listed in the README.Debian file I mentioned. But I'll tell you what.
[11:42] <microwaver> !hi | ecc`