[12:38] <TECKBW> googled around for about a week and gave up
[12:38] <MacZtttlkwork> Oh, and another point, in vista DVD playback was a bit slow!!  However opensuse 10.2... I deleted it, lol.
[12:39] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:39] <trpr> faster than XP... got to be because you MUST run a faster computer.
[12:40] <MacZtttlkwork> :P didn't know about that channel, sorry!
[12:40] <TECKBW> cheers be back ... rebooting for test
[12:40] <ScorpKing> :)
[12:40] <brian_> hi
[12:43] <MacZtttlkwork> I don't want to be reiterative but... any "how to" about kbfx or something?
[12:44] <banie> Uptime: 50 minutes
[12:44] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: let me go look
[12:48] <TECKBW> i am back will let u know in a second if the hard drive mounted
[12:48] <MacZtttlkwork> I have both tried from repositories and also from kde-apps...
[12:49] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: i can't load http://www.kbfx.org/ . maybe there is something
[12:49] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: do you just want to install it?
[12:49] <MacZtttlkwork> i couldn't also
[12:49] <MacZtttlkwork> i have installed it
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> both from the repositories and from kde-apps (a deb package)
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> but they didn't worked...
[12:50] <ScorpKing> it's not in the help centre?
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> I open the help centre
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> and do the appropiate things but nothing happens
[12:51] <TECKBW> ScorpKing---> Still did not mount....
[12:52] <ScorpKing> uhm... look in /var/log/messages for mount errors
[12:52] <TECKBW> k checking now
[12:53] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: sudo grep hda /var/log/messages | less
[12:53] <ScorpKing> use hdb :)
[12:53] <ScorpKing> or what ever your hd is
[12:56] <TECKBW> logs for hda1-5 ext3 but none for hdb1 vfat
[12:56] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: KDE Help Centre -> Application Manuals -> Internet -> Krfb
[12:57] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: just run sudo mount /dev/hdb1 and see if that gives any errors
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> wow... performance if better with the new ATI driver!
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> far better!
[12:58] <TECKBW> no final new line at end of fstab...think i will have to edit fstab and enter a blank line at the end
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> ok I am looking...
[12:58] <ScorpKing> try that
[12:59] <felipe__> hi
[12:59] <felipe__> someone know how activate usb mass storage in kubuntu feisty?
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> hello
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: works automatically.
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> it is not listed there :-S
[01:00] <ScorpKing> mine is. :)
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> :-(
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> perhaps i have to restart kde?
[01:01] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: but if i connect my pendrive or ipod it doesn't recongnizes it
[01:01] <ScorpKing> lol. i don't see any other docs. run locate krfb | less . maybe the docs will show up
[01:01] <TECKBW> says wrong fs type...or bad superblock...missing codepage
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: did you try all of your USB prts?
[01:02] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: but if i connect the pendrive before turning on the computer it mounts the pendrive
[01:02] <felipe__> and at windows it works perfectly
[01:02] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: put the options that you use to mount it manually in fstab
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: hmm thats odd....
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> when you plug it in.... run "dmesg"and see what it says in the last 10 lines or so..
[01:03] <felipe__> ok
[01:03] <TECKBW> can u send gid and uid info again...
[01:03] <TECKBW> can't remember the command...
[01:03] <ScorpKing> gid=1000,uid=1000
[01:04] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: ok...
[01:04] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: it says..
[01:04] <felipe__> [ 4075.050899]  usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[01:05] <felipe__> [ 4075.255861]  usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[01:05] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:06] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: but it doesn't appears at the desktop or mounted in the media folder
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: is that ALL it says?
[01:06] <thomas1> what do you guys think is the best music player software for linux?
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> amarok
[01:06] <thomas1> it sucks
[01:06] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: is the difference between before and after i connect the pendrive
[01:07] <terrestre> i really like amarok
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[01:07] <felipe__> if amarok sucks use xmms xD, its like winamp but the newest version is from 1999
[01:07] <terrestre> amarok found lyrics for me jaja
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: plug it in.. wait about 10 seconds, run it and pastebin the last 20 lines.
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> run dmesg that is
[01:07] <mefisto__> nothing is better than amarok
[01:08] <felipe__> ok
[01:09] <felipe__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37277/
[01:09] <felipe__> theere is
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> AKK! sory, I have to go!
[01:09] <felipe__> ok no problem
[01:09] <felipe__> :d
[01:09] <felipe__> thanks anyway :D
[01:13] <mefisto__> TECKBW: what's the line you are using in fstab?
[01:15] <ScorpKing> :) mefisto__ thanks.
[01:15] <ScorpKing> nite everyone!
[01:15] <felipe__> anyone can help me? :D
[01:15] <felipe__> i need to use the usb mass storage :D
[01:17] <mefisto__> felipe__: someone was having trouble with usb hard disk mounting earlier. take a look at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/110210 and look at the comments at the bottom of the page
[01:18] <felipe__> thanks ;)
[01:19] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:19] <semistud2354> im using feisty
[01:19] <semistud2354> ??
[01:20] <MacZtttlkwork> bye
[01:21] <TECKBW> ScorpKing  --> this seems to mount when using sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[01:21] <TECKBW> now to reboot and to check
[01:23] <thomas__> whats task manager's linux equivalent?
[01:24] <TECKBW> i think u can ctrl+esc
[01:24] <mefisto__> thomas__: process table. ctrl-esc
[01:24] <TECKBW> process table
[01:24] <TECKBW> lol...first had to check
[01:26] <thomas__> mefisto__: have you heard of konky?
[01:26] <felipe__> mefisto__: do you think that if i run an old kernel it'll work fine?
[01:26] <thomas__> mefisto__: is that any good?
[01:27] <mefisto__> thomas__: heard of it but know nothing about it, sorry
[01:27] <thomas__> mefisto__: its annoying I was importing a playlist from my ntfs windows system and it got to 85% and it was almost frozen and didn't respond to keys
[01:28] <felipe__> mefisto__: i've to go
[01:28] <felipe__> but thanks for the info
[01:28] <felipe__> ;)
[01:29] <mefisto__> felipe__: can you mount the drive manually?
[01:29] <phoenixz> hi there, I just installed kubuntu in a dell latitude D620.. all good and well, but the X screen on my laptop is 4:3 format, while the laptop screen is 16:9. How do I fix this?
[01:29] <felipe__> mefisto__: no i cant
[01:29] <felipe__> but thanks anyway
[01:29] <felipe__> bye
[01:30] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:30] <semistud2354> im using feisty
[01:30] <semistud2354> ??
[01:35] <stuq> hi all
[01:36] <stuq> in a default gutsy install on my lapper, I'm seeing both kpowersave and power manager come up in the 'system tray'
[01:36] <stuq> do I need both?
[01:36] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:36] <brad_> hey
[01:36] <danielviras> Hi!!
[01:36] <thomas2> whenever I import songs to amarok from windows hd it freezes
[01:36] <brad_> my wireless connection as been acting like a crazy person
[01:36] <danielviras> hi people
[01:36] <brad_> well I think both the card and the router are doing seperate bad things
[01:37] <danielviras> how's everybody
[01:37] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:37] <semistud2354> does anyone know
[01:37] <brad_> because sometimes I have to reset the router and sometimes restart the computer
[01:37] <danielviras> I've got a couple of questions
[01:37] <danielviras> Anyone could help me?
[01:37] <mefisto__> semistud2354: is this a folder in your home directory?
[01:38] <elzbal> danielviras: Go ahead and ask.
[01:38] <elzbal> !ask
[01:38] <Ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <semistud2354> yea.../home/user/Desktop/Downloads
[01:38] <danielviras> haha, sorry, is my first time here
[01:38] <stuq> in a default gutsy install on my lapper, I'm seeing both kpowersave and power manager come up in the 'system tray'... do I need both?
[01:38] <elzbal> no worries.  :)
[01:38] <semistud2354> so is it possible
[01:39] <danielviras> well.... I just installed compiz fusion to kubuntu, but it doesn't start as the default option... I have to use the replace command every time I boot
[01:39] <semistud2354> ive got some important assignments i want to keep safe
[01:39] <danielviras> how do I set it as the default??
[01:39] <thomas1> whenever I import songs to amarok from windows hd it freezes
[01:39] <mefisto__> semistud2354: do chown --help and see if that's what you want to do. eg chown root /home/username/Desktop/downloads
[01:40] <semistud2354> it says operation not permitted....so sudo
[01:40] <semistud2354> ??
[01:41] <mefisto__> semistud2354: yep, sudo before the cmd
[01:41] <semistud2354> sudo chown root /home/username/Desktop/Downloads
[01:42] <BluesKaj> thomas , import the files to a folder in linux then to amarok later , that should work
[01:42] <mefisto__> replace "username" with your username of course, or sudo chown root ~/Desktop/Downloads
[01:42] <semistud2354> yea
[01:43] <semistud2354> then it should ask for pass when i click on downloads
[01:43] <mefisto__> semistud2354: I think it will just refuse access, unless you sudo first
[01:44] <mefisto__> semistud2354: do you want to hide the folder?
[01:44] <danielviras> does anyone know how to set compiz as my default compositing window manager????
[01:46] <elzbal> danielviras: Sorry, I, for one, am not using Compiz.
[01:46] <elzbal> danielviras: You can also try asking on #ubuntu. There's often more people over there, maybe one of them has the answer.
[01:46] <danielviras> ok... thanks anyway
[01:46] <danielviras> thanks a lot
[01:47] <danielviras> you might have the answer to this next question
[01:47] <danielviras> I have an Airlink wireless usb adapter
[01:48] <danielviras> and I tried to install the windows driver to kubuntu using ndiswrapper
[01:48] <danielviras> you know... with the .inf file
[01:48] <danielviras> but it didn't do anything at all, it says it's not a valid driver
[01:48] <danielviras> a haven't been able to use it
[01:48] <danielviras> =(
[01:48] <Crell> Hi all.  How does one initiate a Bluetooth pairing in System Settings?
[01:49] <danielviras> join #ubuntu
[01:49] <Crell> I'm in the Bluetooth configuration screen, but there's no indication of how to initiate a pairing.
[01:49] <tobias__> danielviras: I do use compiz-fusion as well, but I am not having it as my default cwm. I do not remember why, but I was told better NOT to do it because of several reasons. And I mean - I dont care about "compiz --replace" in the beginning :)
[01:50] <danielviras> well Tobias, you might be right... it's not such a big line after all, hehe
[01:50] <tobias__> danielviras: concerning your usb problem: isnt there an official linux driver for that adapter ?
[01:51] <Crell> I have a BT mouse that I am trying to pair that is in discovery mode, but I don't know how to tell KDE that.
[01:51] <danielviras> there isn't
[01:51] <danielviras> I even wrote to the company
[01:52] <danielviras> and a very kind guy offered to help me with my problem
[01:52] <PriceChild> elzbal, in future please suggest #ubuntu-effects instead of #ubuntu, or perhaps #compiz-fusion
[01:52] <danielviras> but then discovered I was using linux and said: Sorry but we don't offer linux support
[01:52] <tobias__> ._.
[01:53] <tobias__> okay maybe we can find something on the projekt side of ndiswrapper
[01:54] <tobias__> danielviras: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/
[01:54] <tobias__> check this out
[01:54] <tobias__> maybe you can find something there
[01:55] <danielviras> thanks tobias
[01:55] <tobias__> I would really like to help you but I can hardly keep my eyes open
[01:55] <tobias__> :)
[01:55] <tobias__> so good luck with your problem
[01:55] <danielviras> don't worry
[01:55] <tobias__> good night
[01:55] <danielviras> go to sleep
[01:55] <fungos> Im trying to run acetoneiso2 .. it says it cant find libQtGui.so.4 but it exists in /usr/lib ....  where should I configure?
[01:55] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed beryl with apt-get but how can I have my session start with beryl all the time? When I start beryl from the command line, there seems to be no window decorator available :(
[01:55] <danielviras> well, here it's good day but ok
[01:55] <danielviras> have a good rest
[01:55] <phoenixz> How can I have this functioning correctly?
[01:55] <tobias__> it is 01.55am here, so :)
[01:55] <tobias__> phoenixz: #ubuntu-effects
[01:56] <tobias__> and your question is weird
[01:56] <tobias__> it doesnt make any difference if you start it automatically or by comand
[01:56] <phoenixz> tobias__, how weird?
[01:56] <tobias__> did you install emerald ?
[01:56] <tobias__> you need a window decorator before having beryl use one
[01:57] <tobias__> apt-cache search emerald
[01:57] <tobias__> then install what you need
[01:57] <tobias__> good luck as well
[01:57] <tobias__> and good night !
[01:57] <tobias__> ^^
[01:57] <phoenixz> I remember using beryl from beryl manager, which would launch into the system tray, but it doesnt anymore
[01:58] <fungos> how to say where the lib.so is located?  $ LD_PATH=/usr/lib ./app  ??
[01:59] <mefisto__> phoenixz: you can't get beryl manager started?
[02:00] <Zorix> can someone tell me what the default sound system that kubuntu uses? is it alsa?
[02:00] <javier_> alguien habla espaol???
[02:00] <danielviras> yo hablo espaol
[02:00] <danielviras> pero no creo serte muy utilk
[02:00] <javier_> hola daniel!
[02:00] <danielviras> util*
[02:00] <javier_> de donde?
[02:00] <danielviras> soy newbie
[02:00] <danielviras> de mexico
[02:00] <danielviras> tu??
[02:01] <javier_> Hiper newbie
[02:01] <javier_> Argentina
[02:01] <danielviras> yeah, argentina rules
[02:01] <danielviras> jaja
[02:01] <javier_> no entiendo?
[02:01] <Zorix> is there a channel that speaks english
[02:01] <debian> hi all
[02:01] <hydrogen> this is it Zorix..
[02:01] <Zorix> ah wasnt sure there for a min
[02:01] <hydrogen> yea
[02:01] <flaccid> lol
[02:01] <danielviras> yeah zorix, the only ones speaking english are javier and I
[02:02] <danielviras> sorry, the onluy ones speaking SPANISH
[02:02] <danielviras> that's what I menat
[02:02] <danielviras> hehe
[02:02] <Zorix> wow that some new english words hehe
[02:02] <hydrogen> not in here your not.
[02:02] <stimulus> << finially migrated over to kubuntu once i got my wireless working (WOOT WOOT)
[02:02] <danielviras> haha
[02:02] <stimulus> lol
[02:02] <Zorix> trying to figure out which sound system kubuntu uses by default
[02:02] <hydrogen> arts
[02:02] <hydrogen> which uses alsa
[02:02] <Zorix> ok
[02:03] <Zorix> i had an error on my pc at work saying cant communicate with the device: default
[02:03] <stimulus> . o (arts is a bit glitchy on my system)
[02:03] <Zorix> so i switched it from auto to oss
[02:03] <stimulus> . o (but im using 6.06 atm)
[02:03] <Zorix> but audio doesnt work now
[02:03] <flaccid> linux sound is confusing
[02:03] <stimulus> . o (waiting for 7.10 to come out)
[02:03] <hydrogen> arts has been a bit glitchy since it was released with kde2
[02:03] <Zorix> where can i find and configure arts
[02:04] <stimulus> ive only had arts crash comepletely on me twice that i remember
[02:04] <stimulus> but i rebooted the computer and everything worked fine
[02:04] <stimulus> but it happens sometimes when im doing a lot
[02:04] <mefisto__> Zorix: where did you make the change from alsa (or auto) to oss?
[02:04] <stimulus> i guess i run out of ram quickly then things start to crash
[02:04] <Zorix> in the control center
[02:04] <gustavo_> Ningum fala portugus no, ?
[02:05] <Zorix> i will force alsa and see what it does
[02:05] <Zorix> where can i find some in depth documentation about arts
[02:05] <Jucato> !pt | gustavo_
[02:05] <Ubotu> gustavo_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:06] <mefisto__> Zorix: kmenu>system settings>sound system. Go into hardware tab, and change to autodetect or ALSA
[02:06] <dudeicles> can anyone tell me what linspire is and why it actually costs?
[02:06] <stimulus> linspire is a noob version of linux
[02:06] <Zorix> mefisto__ yea im going to try and do that, i had it on autodetect but it gives me an artsmessage error about not being able to talk to the device: default
[02:06] <stimulus> kubuntu IMHO is better
[02:06] <stimulus> price, i dont know
[02:07] <stimulus> if you want free linspure
[02:07] <stimulus> spire**
[02:07] <stimulus> check out freespire
[02:07] <dudeicles> looking at their site, seems they just are kubuntu
[02:07] <stimulus> pretty much the same thing
[02:07] <Zorix> kubuntu is better than any desktop distro out there i think
[02:07] <stimulus> kubuntu, give or take a little
[02:07] <dudeicles> lol
[02:07] <dudeicles> they're main points are dumb
[02:07] <mefisto__> Zorix: that may be because an app is accessing your soundcard and won't let it go, if you know what I mean
[02:08] <Zorix> mefisto__, seemed to happen after i installed 32 bit firefox in 64
[02:08] <dudeicles> they have CNR and KDE
[02:08] <dudeicles> CNR is like apt it seems
[02:08] <dudeicles> or synaptix
[02:08] <dudeicles> they add KDE, which Kubuntu has.
[02:09] <mefisto__> Zorix: have you used any programs in this current session that use sound?
[02:09] <Zorix> mefisto__, could it have been from this package: lib32asound2
[02:09] <kkathman> every distro has its KDE/gnome and its package manager
[02:09] <dudeicles> proprietary software, which is so easy to install.
[02:09] <Jucato> kkathman: not all :)
[02:09] <kkathman> so in that manner they arent that different
[02:09] <dudeicles> LOL
[02:09] <Zorix> mefisto__, lib32asound2
[02:09] <kkathman> Jucato:  no- its true for the main ones
[02:09] <Jucato> unless you don't consider slackware main :)
[02:10] <kkathman> thats why I said "main ones"
[02:10] <Jucato> ah so you don't. :)
[02:10] <kkathman> slack may be old, but its way out of mainstream imho
[02:10] <dudeicles> Jucato: Get me a cup. lol
[02:10] <stimulus> what kind of coffee do you drink jucato?
[02:11] <kkathman> and no I dont consider slack - they are kinda the linspire on the other end of the spectrum :)
[02:11] <mefisto__> Zorix: maybe log out and log in again, then try changing sound to autodetect. Or try a reboot and change it.
[02:11] <Zorix> mefisto__, tried reboot and such
[02:11] <stimulus> has anybody seen our company site lately?
[02:11] <Zorix> but i will force it to alsa and try when i go back to work in a few hours
[02:12] <Zorix> i saw all the options and wasnt sure which one autodetect was using
[02:12] <Zorix> thanks for your help
[02:14] <mefisto__> flaccid: you in oz?
[02:14] <flaccid> yep
[02:15] <flaccid> the land of opec
[02:15] <mefisto__> hehehe
[02:15] <stimulus> vittoria ..... a brand of coffee?
[02:15] <mefisto__> stimulus: yes, in australia at least
[02:16] <flaccid> its good and a bit on the dark roast side
[02:16] <stimulus> ah
[02:16] <flaccid> boss writes it off as a tax deduction
[02:16] <dudeicles> is there such thing as Fubuntu?
[02:16] <stimulus> i drink anybrand as long as its french roast
[02:16] <dudeicles> lol can you install Fedora on Ubuntu?
[02:17] <flaccid> dudeicles: not natively no
[02:17] <dudeicles> what does natively mean?
[02:17] <dudeicles> like it would need it's own partition?
[02:17] <bigleon> hitmanWilly you there? Well i managed to F up my computer again.
[02:17] <Jucato> you can't install Fedora *on* Ubuntu.
[02:17] <dudeicles> right
[02:18] <dudeicles> is it a good distro?
[02:18] <stimulus> glad as heck you cant
[02:18] <flaccid> well technically if you installed it into a vm you would be installing fedora on ubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> i dont like fedora at all
[02:18] <stimulus> doesnt come with half the stuff i use
[02:18] <dudeicles> stimulus: how come?
[02:18] <Jucato> flaccid: that would be installing Fedora *in* a VM
[02:18] <stimulus> yet it comes with all the other stuff i will probably never use
[02:18] <stimulus> besides i perfer ubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> over fedora
[02:18] <Jucato> YMMV
[02:18] <stimulus> or any other flavor
[02:18] <dudeicles> I like Kubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> kubuntu is ok
[02:18] <dudeicles> it's fun
[02:18] <flaccid> indeed Jucato. but you are installing it on ubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> im the gnome time
[02:18] <stimulus> type**
[02:18] <dudeicles> ah
[02:18] <dudeicles> lol
[02:19] <stimulus> but kde is good
[02:19] <flaccid> thats why i said not natively and technically heh
[02:19] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago!!!!!!!!
[02:19] <stimulus> its what i first started using when i was first introduced to linux
[02:19] <dudeicles> kde is just a desktop manager right?
[02:19] <dudeicles> is there others than KDE and gnome?
[02:19] <Jucato> desktop environment
[02:19] <stimulus> yes kde is a desktop manager
[02:19] <Jucato> Xfce
[02:19] <stimulus> environment i mean
[02:19] <stimulus> KDM is a desktop manager
[02:19] <dudeicles> what is Xfce?
[02:19] <Jucato> KDM is a display manager
[02:19] <stimulus> KDE is a desktop environment
[02:19] <Jucato> !xfce | dudeicles
[02:19] <stimulus> XFCE is an environment
[02:19] <Ubotu> dudeicles: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[02:19] <flaccid> xfce is a window manager
[02:19] <stimulus> i think it means XFaCE
[02:19] <Jucato> no
[02:19] <stimulus> but im probably wrong
[02:20] <dudeicles> I mean does it change anything as far as looks?
[02:20] <Jucato> Xfce is a Desktop environment
[02:20] <stimulus> or XinterFaCE
[02:20] <stimulus> lol
[02:20] <flaccid> Jucato: what window manager does it use
[02:20] <mefisto__> dudeicles: xfce is more like gnome than kde, but is more lightweight
[02:20] <Jucato> flaccid: xfwm
[02:20] <dudeicles> ah
[02:20] <stimulus> xfce is an environment, the E in XFCE kinda gives it awayt
[02:20] <stimulus> :P
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hey Jucato
[02:20] <dudeicles> Jucato: sorry
[02:20] <flaccid> ok my bad sorry
[02:21] <dudeicles> stimulus:  we may have to finish this in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:21] <dudeicles> lol
[02:21] <flaccid> yeah flaccid only good with um on topic stuff heh
[02:21] <dudeicles> which I guess you're not in. lol
[02:23] <thomas__> hello I'm having trouble importing songs into amarok
[02:23] <thomas__> it stalls and gets reallllllly slow and then eventually stops importing
[02:23] <bigleon> Hey guys
[02:24] <bigleon> guess with leon did again
[02:24] <bigleon> what*
[02:24] <draik> Does anyone here know about Live Processing? I know it's got something to do with credit cards and merchant accounts.
[02:24] <mefisto__> thomas__: you may have some corrupt mp3s
[02:24] <thomas__> maybe but how do I find out
[02:24] <bigleon> mefisto__ you know all that work this morning, rofl it crashed again and i had to start from scratch
[02:24] <flaccid> draik: this is kubuntu support channel
[02:25] <flaccid> amarok can get like that imo
[02:25] <mefisto__> bigleon: what was that? I don't remember what you were doing
[02:25] <bigleon> upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04
[02:26] <draik> flaccid: Where do you suggest I ask? I just figured someone in here would know. I may be offered a new position and I want to get a feel for live processing.
[02:26] <bigleon> something screwed up and keyset failed
[02:26] <freeman> .......
[02:26] <freeman> why
[02:27] <flaccid> draik: #web
[02:27] <flaccid> google is best
[02:27] <draik> Google Linux and Google Hacker were of no help
[02:27] <freeman> baidu  is  better than google
[02:27] <flaccid> also wikipedia. transaction processing is usually all proprietery. anyway,,
[02:28] <draik> flaccid: IIRC, it is run under a Linux environment.
[02:28] <draik> At work anyway
[02:28] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed kubutu on a Dell latitude D620 laptop, which has a 16:9 screen, but I only have 1024x786 like (4:3) resolutions available.. How do I fix this??
[02:28] <dudeicles> !resolution | phoenixz
[02:28] <Ubotu> phoenixz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:29] <mefisto__> thomas__: are you adding songs to your collection in the configure window? or are you doing something else?
[02:29] <dudeicles> follow their automatic resolution phoenixz
[02:29] <dudeicles> it worked well for me.
[02:29] <flaccid> draik: can be under anything. i do this stuff for a living..
[02:29] <thomas__> adding media
[02:30] <thomas__> mefisto__: i successfully added some by doing only a few at a time, but I still hae a lot to go
[02:30] <draik> I figure as much, but I believe I was told they [work]  run it under Linux
[02:31] <mefisto__> thomas__: how are you adding them? are you moving files to a new location?
[02:31] <flaccid> 'it' can be any prop. system..
[02:32] <thomas__> mefisto__: no, playlist > add media > and from folders
[02:32] <draik> flaccid: I just know they use Linux. I thought I'd get an idea here about it.
[02:33] <mefisto__> thomas__: have you tried from settings>configure amarok, and choosing where your songs are?
[02:33] <flaccid> draik: yeah linux is an operating system. not middleware or processing.
[02:33] <mefisto__> thomas__: in collection in the configure window
[02:33] <thomas__> mefisto__: no
[02:34] <sea4ever> ah, I finally found something I wanted in Adept
[02:34] <mefisto__> thomas__: also make sure it's using sqlite
[02:34] <thomas__> mefisto__: hold on I think I tried that, I scanned folders
[02:34] <thomas__> sqlite?
[02:35] <phoenixz> dudeicles, thanks alot!
[02:35] <thomas__> mefisto__: it works after doing a few folders maybe I can do the rest one by one
[02:35] <dudeicles> phoenixz: did it work for you also?
[02:35] <phoenixz> another question, adept manager has crashed on me, again.. Im on another computer and dont have the fix by hand: when I start adept, it says I cant modify anything because the DB is locked.. How was this quickly fixed again??
[02:36] <NickPresta> !aptfix | phoenixz
[02:36] <Ubotu> phoenixz: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:36] <mefisto__> in the collection section, in configure amarok. collection database (under the folders)
[02:36] <dudeicles> make sure there's nothing else using the DB
[02:36] <phoenixz> NickPresta, exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!
[02:37] <thomas__> mefisto__: amarok doesn't have any keyboard shortcuts, for next song, or volume....
[02:37] <phoenixz> dudeicles, Dunno yet, just started to read.. Ill let you know
[02:37] <Jucato> thomas__: it has
[02:37] <dudeicles> k :)
[02:37] <thomas__> Jucato: how do i find those out
[02:37] <Jucato> thomas__: Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts
[02:38] <lameck> algum usurio do Kubuntu que fale portugus
[02:38] <thomas__> Jucato: hehe nice
[02:38] <Jucato> !pt | lameck
[02:38] <Ubotu> lameck: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:41] <sea4ever> hellow, can anyone tell me where TCC keeps it's header files?
[02:42] <mefisto__> thomas__: also some of the filenames you're adding might have odd characters, could be causing problems. see if there's anything unusual that stands out
[02:42] <draik> Jucato: Hello
[02:43] <Jucato> hi draik!! :)
[02:43] <draik> flaccid: Where is a good place to ask about using VMware Workstation. I want to load my winxp partition in there
[02:46] <thomas__> mefisto__: maybe
[02:46] <flaccid> !vmware
[02:46] <Ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:46] <flaccid> also #vmware and also the documentation on their site and google...
[02:50] <Almighty_Henaro> Helloooo~
[02:50] <Almighty_Henaro> Anyeone know how to get rid of the Shift+Backspace Hot key in KDE
[02:50] <Almighty_Henaro> Anyone*
[02:51] <lixiaobo> hello
[02:51] <BluesKaj> flaccid, check this out, http://www.vmware.com/download/open_source.html
[02:52] <freeman> what?
[02:53] <flaccid> when did that come out BluesKaj
[02:54] <BluesKaj> well, it ain't free flaccid ...you need a serial #
[02:54] <flaccid> yeah but when did it come out
[02:55] <flaccid> ie. open source
[02:55] <Crell> Hi all.  On a fresh Kubuntu Feisty, I was able to use the SD card reader built into my Thinkpad T61 to work out of the box.  I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.22-10 out of Gutsy, however, in order to get audio and WiFi working.  Since then, the SD card slot is ignored.  Any idea why or what to do about it?
[02:55] <BluesKaj> eagles098 ..whatever his nick was showed me a site where it was free open source
[02:55] <BluesKaj>  not sure whwn, flaccid
[02:55] <BluesKaj> when
[02:55] <flaccid> ok mate
[02:56] <kkathman> howdy BluesKaj :)
[02:56] <kkathman> sup
[02:57] <BluesKaj> hey kkathman, oh mot much ..how about you ?
[02:57] <BluesKaj> err not much :)
[02:57] <kkathman> doin ok man :)
[02:59] <BluesKaj> tried to load kubuntu 7.04 live cd on a friend's pc this aft , but it wouldn't load ...his graphics weren't supported ...MDG pc , made here in Canada , using some taiwan made onboard graphics
[03:00] <BluesKaj> so not all pc's are linux/debian/kubuntu friendly
[03:01] <BluesKaj> it's p4 with 512 ram...it should work
[03:01] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, tell me about it.  It's a pain to work with...
[03:03] <BluesKaj> He wants to try Kubuntu , but i can't even demo it , a real pITA
[03:05] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, yeah. It certainly doesn't help the idea that Linux is hard to use and scary to newbies. Nothing screams "complicated" like dropping into a console and doing a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` to fix resolution/graphics problems :)
[03:08] <BluesKaj> yeah, no kidding , I recall having to go thru the motions a yr or so ago with daskreech and Jucato , trying to reconfigure X from the TTY prompt on irssi
[03:08] <mefisto__> I read somewhere that will be less common in gutsy, a minimal graphical fallback for x or something?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> strange, a dell that's anti- linux tho , usually they're quite linux friendly
[03:09] <purpleposeidon> I'd like to up my resolution, but system settings only goes up to 1280x1024...how to fix?
[03:09] <BluesKaj> lets hope so mefisto__ , i don't plan on spending anymore on this pc
[03:10] <BluesKaj> which graphics drivers , purpleposeidon?
[03:11] <purpleposeidon> I don't know....
[03:11] <mefisto__> is anyone using kde4? how usable is it at the moment?
[03:12] <purpleposeidon> The default ones, I guess. "Intel(r) Extreme Graphics with up to 64mb shared video memory" is what it says on the label. :P
[03:13] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, in the terminal type : lspci | grep -i vga
[03:14] <mefisto__> is "grep" short for something?
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I always think it's "get regular expression"
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I doubt that's what it's really supposed to mean though
[03:17] <mefisto__> Dragnslcr: you're close. wikipedia says it's "search Globally for lines matching the Regular Expression, and Print them"
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> Makes sense
[03:18] <purpleposeidon> only off by about 7 words, right?
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> I knew the regular expression part
[03:18] <BluesKaj> grep = prints lines matching a pattern...is all i can seem to find
[03:18] <BluesKaj> aha
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> The other two letters are kinda extraneous
[03:18] <purpleposeidon> BluesKaj: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[03:19] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to tweak  cable modem by changing settings in Ubuntu????
[03:19] <flaccid> illriginal: usually you do that on the modem itself
[03:20] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, ok, those are good graphics from what i've heard
[03:20] <purpleposeidon> like, compiz-graphics? :D
[03:20] <mefisto__> tweak as in "make my downloads super-fast"?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, dunno for sure
[03:21] <illriginal> flaccid from my understanding there's settings on Ubuntu that sort of limits the speed
[03:21] <flaccid> where did you get this understanding from
[03:22] <mefisto__> win98?
[03:24] <arkygeek> hi
[03:25] <arkygeek> fyi:  to get a # from an iMac running ubuntu, you simply hold down the RT-ALT and hit 3
[03:25] <arkygeek> RT-ALT and 2 gives the
[03:26] <mefisto__> thanks arkygeek!
[03:26] <|kklaubb|> is it common to download software tha you have to compile yourself?
[03:27] <arkygeek> |kklaubb|: yes, but you get a more stable system if you can get the from the repos
[03:28] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again. Now you should be able to reset the resolution to your needs.
[03:29] <thomas__> i installed openssh-server. Is there any way I can open it in a GUI? Configure it?
[03:29] <hydrogen> no
[03:29] <hydrogen> well
[03:29] <hydrogen> you can open the config file in kate
[03:30] <thomas__> hydrogen: sigh, really I have to configure everything by text
[03:30] <thomas__> hydrogen: thats hard
[03:30] <hydrogen> yes
[03:30] <hydrogen> its a server program
[03:30] <thomas__> .......
[03:31] <flaccid> whats there to configure..
[03:31] <NickPresta> thomas__, most of the time, things like Apache, SSH, FTP, etc are run on boxes with X or any sort of graphical output. Hence, plain-text configuration...
[03:31] <thomas__> flaccid: what do you mean......what to configure....everything
[03:32] <ks3> thomas__, for the most part, getting an ssh server running is a matter of installing and starting the server
[03:32] <thomas__> NickPresta: yea I have apache installed on my windows machine which I configured through text but thats annoying. IS APACHE A BETTER WAY OF DOWNLOADING FILES FROM MY COMPUTER OR SSH?
[03:32] <flaccid> thomas__: what is everything? please be specific
[03:32] <ks3> thomas__, there's not generally much configuration required unless you want to customize authentication methods, etc...
[03:32] <flaccid> thomas__: dont' shout!
[03:33] <thomas__> flaccid: lmao i'm not shouting hehe
[03:33] <flaccid> there is no better way. they are different protocols for different purposes
[03:33] <flaccid> capitals = shouting
[03:33] <thomas__> flaccid: lol i guess
[03:33] <thomas__> flaccid: its more like a highlight
[03:33] <flaccid> no its not. its shouting.
[03:34] <BluesKaj> !shout
[03:34] <Ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:34] <thomas__> flaccid: well yes I would like to get a password and username going, and basicaly connect to my machine from other comps
[03:34] <flaccid> thomas__: thats user admin nothing to do with the ssh server
[03:34] <hydrogen> err
[03:35] <hydrogen> ssh allows you to login with the accounts on a computer already
[03:35] <hydrogen> not with special ssh accounts
[03:35] <flaccid> you can go to user management in system settings for that
[03:35] <thomas__> are you serious omg....in windows, when doing apache I had to configure all usernames and passwords
[03:35] <hydrogen> its not apache.
[03:35] <hydrogen> its ssh.
[03:35] <hydrogen> if you don't understand this you probably sohuldn't be using it
[03:36] <thomas__> hydrogen: hey you shouldn't discourage people
[03:36] <flaccid> this is not windows either
[03:36] <hydrogen> thomas__: I shouldn't discourage a first year medical student from operating on me?
[03:36] <flaccid> exactly
[03:36] <thomas__> flaccid: i know, i know i'm just stating that i guess this is much easier
[03:37] <BluesKaj> lets's keep the high horses in the stable ok gents !
[03:37] <kkathman> what hospital would have a 1st year med student operating - maybe assisting :)
[03:37] <flaccid> i'd like to think so. thomas__ its better to ask us general question on how you should do something instead of having assumptions about how you think it should be
[03:38] <thomas__> flaccid: ok well its installed
[03:38] <flaccid> ok now people can login via ssh as long as they have a valid shell. the default/first user in ubuntu has bash
[03:40] <thomas__> flaccid: if I want to log in from a windows machine?
[03:40] <hydrogen> then you need to download putty
[03:40] <hydrogen> which is a ssh client for windows
[03:41] <hydrogen> but, you will only have a terminal
[03:41] <hydrogen> so if your not happy configuring without a gui
[03:41] <hydrogen> It may not be what you are looking for
[03:41] <flaccid> other options are vnc and xdcmp and even thinclient if you require remote gui..
[03:42] <mefisto__> thomas__: are you just experimenting, or are you trying to achieve something specific?
[03:42] <thomas__> mefisto__: i'm trying to actually eventually be able to connect from somewhere
[03:43] <hydrogen> what do you want to be able to do when you connect though?
[03:44] <flaccid> lol
[03:45] <thomas__> hydrogen: download files
[03:45] <thomas__> hydrogen: or read
[03:46] <hydrogen> do you want a gui when you do so?
[03:46] <purpleposeidon> you'd probably want ftp then
[03:46] <thomas__> hydrogen: wouldn't that be easier?
[03:46] <hydrogen> thomas__: well, ssh won't give you one
[03:47] <hydrogen> purpleposeidon: well, i'd suggest scp (which runs over ssh) or sftp but
[03:47] <thomas__> well i remembber that in school they had a gui that connected to a server
[03:48] <kkathman> Im pretty sure you can run vnc via ss but I havent tried in a few months
[03:48] <izzyb> I need to install a cisco vpn client that requires me compile a new module.  the install is choking and I'm not sure why
[03:49] <purpleposeidon> izzyb: heimlich manuver. (sp?)
[03:50] <izzyb> The error I'm getting is linux/config.h: no such file or directory
[03:50] <ks3> izzyb, there's a vpnc in the repositories that is supposed to be compatible with the cisco client... haven't tried it lately, though
[03:50] <izzyb> I think it's looking in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic
[03:50] <izzyb> no
[03:50] <izzyb> thanks for the tip
[03:50] <izzyb> purpleposeidon, hehe ;)
[03:51] <izzyb> but I'd like to understand this problem also (although I'll install from the repository if that works ;)
[03:51] <izzyb> I was guessing the prolbem was I didn't have kernel source
[03:51] <izzyb> so I installe dthat and the build essentials
[03:52] <izzyb> but when I try making the kernel, it complains with the above
[03:52] <izzyb> I did a make oldconfig first
[03:53] <ks3> izzyb, i don't think that file exists with the newer kernels... i believe i ran into that with another module
[03:53] <ks3> izzyb, lemme see if i can dig up the info...
[03:53] <izzyb> that seemed to work, but the make doesn't.  complains about init/built-in.o doesn't exist
[03:53] <notv> i want to dual boot feisty and vista on a laptop
[03:53] <izzyb> sorry, the error is different from above
[03:54] <izzyb> ks3, thanks...
[03:54] <notv> is it best to start from scratch or can i repartition with windows already on there
[03:54] <kkathman> notv partitioning is the least of your worries :)
[03:55] <notv> i have to have windows for school
[03:55] <kkathman> and you can do that as long as you defag and have enough room
[03:55] <notv> its a brand new laptop with 160G
[03:55] <notv> i havent even taken it out of the box yet
[03:55] <mefisto__> notv: kubuntu will do the partitioning for you when installing. But back up anything you can't afford to lose, of course
[03:56] <notv> whats the best file system to use
[03:56] <jared__> I have a quick question, if anyone has time.  :)
[03:56] <notv> do i need to partition a swap drive
[03:56] <kkathman> notv: but, vista has alot of weird things - you might check with ##windows and ask there as many of the folks there run (k)ubuntu with vista dually
[03:56] <izzyb> ks3: just found vpnc whicch is supposed to be cisco compatablle
[03:56] <izzyb> trying it now
[03:57] <notv> thanks
[03:57] <kkathman> vista, unlike XP, doesnt like to be dual booted
[03:58] <mefisto__> notv: maybe consider installing XP with kubuntu?
[03:58] <izzyb> kkathman, really?  I hadn't noticed a problem
[03:58] <notv> yea but the laptop came with vista
[03:58] <izzyb> although I have to admit, I don''t spend much time in vista :)
[03:58] <notv> i dont want to purchase a copy of windows
[03:58] <kkathman> izzyb:  kewl - I just know a few people that have had glitches
[03:58] <ks3> here's a link re: nonexistant config.h for another app - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308477
[03:58] <BluesKaj> BCD 170 ...MBR for vista dual boot...check it out
[03:58] <ks3> it's got a dummy config.h you could try
[03:58] <kkathman> notv:  you got a laptop with NO O/S on it?
[03:58] <izzyb> well, I know the ntfs format has changed  and using any old version of ntfs tools corrupts it
[03:58] <ks3> if vpnc doesn't work out...
[03:58] <izzyb> that's a bad spot
[03:58] <kkathman> thats very unusual
[03:59] <izzyb> but modern versions seem to have that figured out
[03:59] <izzyb> ks3, thanks :)
[03:59] <kkathman> izzyb: yeah thats true
[04:02] <BluesKaj> notv, Easy BCD 170 , an app for dual booting Vista & LInux
[04:02] <notv> kkathman the laptop came with vista preinstalled
[04:03] <notv> i found a tutorial and it looks pretty straightforward
[04:03] <flaccid> sounds scary
[04:03] <notv> it says windows can create the unpartitioned space
[04:03] <notv> and then i just pop in the cd for ubuntu
[04:04] <ardchoille> notv: You're going to have to do some work if Windows creates that partition as NTFS
[04:04] <hydrogen> err
[04:04] <hydrogen> no
[04:04] <hydrogen> it creates nonpartitionedspace
[04:04] <hydrogen> that means it doesn't have a file system
[04:05] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:05] <notv> wont it just leave it unpartitioned
[04:05] <hydrogen> yea
[04:05] <hydrogen> it will
[04:05] <flaccid> unallocated or an actual partition hydrogen?
[04:05] <notv> okay
[04:05] <hydrogen> unallocated
[04:05] <ardchoille> I wouldn't think Win would give you that flexibility
[04:06] <hydrogen> vista added a partitioner
[04:06] <flaccid> oh nice heh
[04:07] <notv> anyone know how to put linux on an ipod?
[04:07] <hydrogen> see rockbox.org
[04:07] <hydrogen> well
[04:07] <hydrogen> no, thats opensource firmware
[04:07] <hydrogen> that is really cool
[04:07] <ks3> ipodlinux
[04:07] <hydrogen> but its not linux
[04:07] <ks3> but i use rockbox, too
[04:07] <hydrogen> that'd be the word i was searching for
[04:07] <ks3> it rocks :)
[04:08] <flaccid> google is great for finding stuff on this :)
[04:08] <BluesKaj> !google
[04:08] <Ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:08] <hydrogen> !yahoo
[04:08] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <hydrogen> wow
[04:08] <hydrogen> talk about bias
[04:08] <hydrogen> how much did google pay the ubotu developers?
[04:08] <hydrogen> to get this advantage
[04:08] <hydrogen> !live
[04:08] <Ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[04:09] <hydrogen> there again
[04:09] <BluesKaj> hydrogen , here's yer answer http://google.com/linux
[04:09] <mefisto__> google pays quite a lot I think
[04:10] <BluesKaj> actually google linux isn't all that great
[04:10] <BluesKaj> seems to have alotta suse and fedora lists
[04:26] <flaccid> gutsy is feeling a bit more stable now heh
[04:27] <Biovore> rgr
[04:27] <jared__> hey
[04:29] <mefisto__> is xfce pronounced X-face? how do YOU say it
[04:30] <flaccid> mefisto__: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=pronounce+xfce&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[04:30] <Biovore> mefisto__: I say it that way
[04:30] <flaccid> mixed opinion
[04:31] <flaccid> also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce
[04:32] <Jucato> http://wiki.xfce.org/faq
[04:32] <Jucato> official opinion
[04:32] <Jucato> n8k99!!
[04:33] <n8k99> hory cow! i'd better hide before Jucato sees me
[04:33] <Jucato> hory hahah!
[04:34] <n8k99> Jucato: are you in offtopic?
[04:34] <Jucato> nope
[04:34] <Jucato> trimming down on my auto-join channels  :)
[04:34] <n8k99> how bout i can pc you
[04:34] <Jucato> pc me?
[04:34] <n8k99> um, personal query or something like that
[04:34] <Jucato> ah pm
[04:35] <n8k99> yeah- month long sabbatical and all
[04:35] <Jucato> hah! you too? :)
[04:35] <Jucato> I'm in offtopic now bt
[04:35] <Jucato> btw
[04:35] <mefisto__> what about xubuntu? is the X an african "click" sound? hehe
[04:35] <Jucato> but you can pc me if you want
[04:36] <Jucato> and what would you say about edubuntu? :)
[04:41] <thomas__> hey does anyone know how to import outlook express address book to thunderbird?
[04:42] <mefisto__> thomas__: on linux? it's automatic on windows isn't it?
[04:43] <thomas__> mefisto__: yes on linux
[04:43] <thomas__> mefisto__: i have outlook express on windows
[04:43] <thomas__> mefisto__: but want info to thunderbird on linux
[04:44] <BluesKaj> thomas__, import the addressbook as an ldif file to a folder in linux , the import the file with thunderbird's addressbook using edit or tools
[04:45] <thomas__> BluesKaj: huh?
[04:46] <thomas__> BluesKaj: you mean save the windows addressbook file as name.idif then import into thunderbirtd linux?
[04:46] <mefisto__> thomas__: you could install tb in windows (if you haven't already) and import everything, then in linux point your thunderbird profile/Mail directory to use the windows tb profile/Mail directory. That's what I did. So in windows and linux, tb is more or less the same.
[04:46] <thomas__> mefisto__: aww i see
[04:47] <mefisto__> if you just want the addressbook, do what BluesKaj said
[04:47] <BluesKaj> you have to import the file from your linux filder using the options in the thunderbird address book
[04:47] <BluesKaj> err folder
[04:48] <BluesKaj> I even imported the wifes address book from her xp pc into kmail
[04:49] <mefisto__> you can also symlink firefox's bookmarks.html between windows and linux, to keep bookmarks in sync for both
[04:49] <titanio> holaa
[04:51] <thomas__> mefisto__: yea i might want to get bookmarks too but this first
[04:51] <BluesKaj> I dumped T-Bird 2.0 cuz it wouldn't launch links with FF or any other browser
[04:53] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: you have to set network.protocol-handler.app.http to /usr/bin/firefox (or whatever browser) in tb's about:config
[04:54] <thomas__> BluesKaj: i dont get what you want me to do
[04:54] <thomas__> BluesKaj: with importing as ldif
[04:54] <kubuntu> .
[04:54] <kubuntu> tem algum brasileiro aew
[04:55] <Jucato> !br | kubuntu
[04:55] <Ubotu> kubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:57] <BluesKaj> in outlook express, open the adressbook , look for edit or tools to export the addressbook file , it'll ask you to save as , then choose ldif  and save it a folder in windows then copy the file from the windows folder to the linux /home/yourname if you wish , then open t-bird and edit or tools  and import the file
[04:58] <BluesKaj> well gents, it's sacktime here ..getting tired ..nite all, take care
[05:07] <_2> oh my
[05:07] <flaccid> hehe
[05:07] <NightBird> yeap
[05:13] <NightBird> like mine's an mobility 1150, but flglx detects it as a mobility 200
[05:13] <flaccid> dang
[05:13] <NightBird> yeah, thats a whole 950 below what it should be
[05:13] <NightBird> ( :P )
[05:16] <flaccid> lol
[05:23] <intelikey>
[05:23] <intelikey>  343 = 101010111_2
[05:26] <flaccid> in hex now :p
[05:27] <bob1nz> hey i keep getting e msg when i try modprobe saying that it isnt loaded?
[05:27] <thomas__> why does it time the amoutn of time that i'm away from my computer lol? anyway I connected to my computer via ssh
[05:28] <intelikey> flaccid :)
[05:28] <thomas__> i was unable to download anything because I didn't know how, GET command din't work, but how do I stop the server? or restrict people from coming in?
[05:32] <intelikey> thomas__ you can kill the server  or iptables can restrict access.
[05:32] <intelikey> flaccid   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39510
[05:32] <flaccid> you can't just run a command to get something through a ssh shell session. you don't use ssh for that usually you use scp
[05:32] <flaccid> to restrict people, its basic user management. give them the nologin shell to stop them being able to log in
[05:33] <flaccid> can you port that to ksh now please intelikey :p
[05:33] <intelikey> flaccid actually you can "get" things through ssh sessions.    ssh cat blah > blah   granted that's not the best way.
[05:34] <flaccid> yeah thats ouchy, but i guess you are right yeah
[05:34] <flaccid> thats probably similar to what scp does anyway
[05:34] <terrestre> how i can know a ip of a msn
[05:34] <intelikey> flaccid you system should have /bin/sh  and it should be posix compliant.  so it doesn't need ported...
[05:36] <NightBird> wooo it installed, it thinks it has hardware acceleration for 3d and.... glxgears crashes
[05:36] <intelikey> you/your
[05:36] <NightBird> well, I call it crashing... it's more that it locked up the syste
[05:37] <NightBird> m
[05:37] <intelikey> that's crash +1
[05:37] <intelikey> :)
[05:37] <NightBird> but everything was a lot smoother in general.... before I was using the open source driver and... well, things didn't move so smoothly...
[05:38] <NightBird> and the fglrx before that wouldn't install properly :P
[05:38] <tza_> join #ubuntu
[05:39] <hydrogen>  NightBird: did you do nvidia-glx-config enable after installing? (might be the cause of the glxgears hang)
[05:39] <NightBird> hydrogen: um.... I'm not using nvidia
[05:39] <hydrogen> oh
[05:40] <hydrogen> I thought that when you had good results with propriatery drivers it had to be nvidia
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:40] <NightBird> hydrogen: looks like amd/ati is cleaning themselves up actually
[05:40] <NightBird> past week or two has been filled with lots of signs of a shake up for them
[05:40] <notv> after 30 minutes of using vista im getting angry with it
[05:41] <holybovine> notv: how so?
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> yeah, i must say, i think i might see an aerial pig in the morning...lol
[05:41] <NightBird> releasing all the specs on their video cards(so far, only 2d, but 3d will be following soon), a big improvement in 3d, and support for aiglx
[05:41] <notv> its repartioner is being a bother
[05:41] <notv> wont let me give windows less than 75G
[05:41] <hydrogen> well you know that vista needs that much to be installed!
[05:41] <notv> haha
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> that's just sad...
[05:42] <intelikey> looks like i'm in for a bumpy ride
[05:42] <NightBird> whoo... 305 fps in fgl_glxgears, which is a fair bit better tahn what it was before..
[05:43] <nemisis> does anyone know how to disable suspend in fiesty?
[05:43] <NightBird> 1660 from glxgears
[05:43] <intelikey> heh.
[05:43] <intelikey> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:43] <intelikey> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[05:43] <NightBird> so... looks like 3d is back and working(and doing quite a bit better than before)
[05:44] <holybovine> notv: figures
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, what version of X are you running
[05:44] <notv> is there much difference between kubuntu and ubuntu with kde desktop installed?
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, that should be built in on a buntu box...
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> notlabled, zero
[05:45] <intelikey> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> sorry, notv
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> notv all the buntu flavors are identical under the hood
[05:46] <notv> i cant wait
[05:46] <notv> to get buntu studio goin on
[05:46] <intelikey> notv no.  not much differance.  but the default apps will be the gnome apps unless you install kubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <intelikey> and i don't advise installing more than one meta package of the desktop
[05:48] <hydrogen> notv: ubuntu with the kde desktop installed just has more packages than kubuntu
[05:48] <hydrogen> because installing the kde desktop doesn't uninstall the gnome desktop
[05:48] <intelikey> and different defaults
[05:48] <notv> well thats cool. ill just stay with that. sometimes i want to use gnome
[05:49] <notv> windows is being ridiculous. im going to have to load buntu first
[05:50] <intelikey> hitmanWilly but i did mention that my nvidia card is not supported.
[05:51] <hydrogen> notv: installing vista after linux may be problematic as well
[05:51] <notv> how so?
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ah, didn't see that
[05:51] <hydrogen> vista may be borglike
[05:51] <hydrogen> and eat it
[05:51] <hydrogen> not sure
[05:52] <notv> well
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, sorry, ive been in an out all night
[05:52] <notv> at least ill have linux
[05:52] <notv> thats the primary concern
[05:52] <hydrogen> as it should be :)
[05:52] <hydrogen> theres always virtualbox
[05:52] <intelikey> mbr   so you'll have to redo grub for sure
[05:52] <notv> whats that?
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> it'll take over the boot record, that's for sure
[05:52] <hydrogen> lets you run windows from within linux
[05:52] <hydrogen> virtualizing it
[05:52] <notv> but you still install it, right?
[05:53] <notv> you still install windows
[05:53] <hydrogen> yea
[05:53] <hydrogen> but from within linux
[05:53] <notv> this is amazing
[05:54] <notv> i must do this
[05:54] <hydrogen> I need windows (or osx) until someone releases a cad program that doesn't suck for linux
[05:54] <notv> i hear you
[05:54] <notv> im using pro engineering at school
[05:55] <hydrogen> because its wayyy to complicated
[05:55] <hydrogen> :)
[05:56] <hydrogen> theres a reason a good cad program costs 2k+
[05:56] <notv> yea
[05:56] <notv> theres not enough capital in an open source cad project
[05:56] <hydrogen> and 2k is kind of low end
[05:56] <intelikey> so they leave it to us high school drop outs to write it as always
[05:57] <notv> here here
[05:57] <notv> son of a
[05:57] <notv> i hit f12 let me boot from cd
[05:58] <notv> with the ubuntu start up disk format my drive for me
[05:58] <notv> will*
[05:58] <intelikey> that is a question
[05:58] <intelikey> yes
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> notv, if you tell it too
[05:58] <intelikey> actually unless you tell it not too
[05:58] <intelikey> but it will ask
[05:59] <notv> windows does want it to boot off cd
[05:59] <notv> maybe it senses its doom
[05:59] <notv> doesnt*
[05:59] <notv> crap
[06:00] <intelikey> contrarry to popular belief, on can type like that and still successuflly install linux.    i'm living proff notv
[06:00] <dudeicles> lol intelikey
[06:00] <notv> not at this rate
[06:00] <notv> maybe my disk is bad
[06:01] <dwidmann> intelikey: speeling porblem?
[06:01] <intelikey> notv is this a total wipe out and reload ?
[06:01] <notv> yes
[06:01] <intelikey> dwidmann no.   i speel liek this all the tiem
[06:02] <notv> i told it to boot from cd, but it ignored me
[06:02] <intelikey> notv then i'd sujest "badblocks" on the drive   with the "write" switch  if you can spare the time.   it will try to make three passes by default.
[06:03] <notv> oh
[06:03] <notv> there it goes
[06:03] <intelikey> but testing the full drive is a good idea if there is any chance that the disk maybe giveing errors.
[06:04] <intelikey> dwidmann  see   ^   giveing  :)
[06:04] <notv> i dunno, its working now.
[06:04] <dwidmann> intelikey: :)
[06:05] <intelikey> dwidmann but they didn't teach us how to read and write where i went to school,  they tough us how much an oz of smack was worth compaired to a kg of pot
[06:06] <Kubuntero> !info virtualbox
[06:06] <Ubotu> Package virtualbox does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:06] <intelikey> and how to hide a hand gun on your person...  things like that.
[06:06] <dwidmann> intelikey: wow, they skipped right to the useful information, kudos to them
[06:07] <intelikey> dwidmann so my spelling is attrocious <!/sp>  but i can "throw down" with the best and badest.
[06:08] <dwidmann> hehehe
[06:10] <notv> ive heard its good to put your home folder on a different drive
[06:10] <notv> will that slow things down and is it much of a good idea
[06:10] <intelikey> notv makes reloading without loosing your personal *  much smoother
[06:11] <notv> i need lowest latency possible. will separate drives affect the latency?
[06:11] <dwidmann> intelikey: fortunately for me konversation has built in spell checking.
[06:11] <intelikey> speed wise, you'll never know it, unless for some reason the other drive is slow.
[06:11] <intelikey> dwidmann :)
[06:11] <notv> well essentially its the same drive, i would just be partioning it
[06:12] <intelikey> dwidmann hehhe  try bitchx a while... lets see how you fair without it  :)
[06:12] <intelikey> notv then no differance at all.   speed overhead wise that is.
[06:12] <level1> hi, I have a key that currently causes the amarok window to appear, and I want to assign it to something else but I can't because I can't figure out where the current assignment is coming from and it overrides everything else I try to do to the key
[06:13] <dwidmann> intelikey: erm, maybe tomorrow. As for now, I need to get to bed so I can not sleep and wake up feeling terrible in the morning.
[06:13] <intelikey> dwidmann k.  shalom
[06:13] <notv> how much should i allocate for feisty, then, and should i put windows via virtual box on the same drive
[06:14] <dwidmann> intelikey: mmhmm, good night
[06:14] <level1> wow, this magical shortcut is able to do what nothing else can: open multiple instances of amarok
[06:14] <intelikey> notv about 6 to 9 gig is plenty  and probably not  if you can allocate space for it without it being in the same fs
[06:15] <notv> feisty only takes 9G?
[06:15] <intelikey> level1 heh
[06:15] <level1> notv: I personally find 6 gigs restrictive, you should allocate a few more than 6, 9 might be enough
[06:15] <intelikey> notv no. it will only take about 3g
[06:15] <intelikey> so i was liberal
[06:15] <notv> but vista takes 15
[06:16] <dwidmann> notv: shouldn't take more than 2gb, but that would be rather restrictive about what you're adding on later
[06:16] <notv> alright i ran into an x window problem
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> notv, for a default install, i'd say 10-15 would be more than enough
[06:16] <notv> how can i trouble shoot the x window issue
[06:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly of vesta ?
[06:16] <level1> its all a matter of how much space you'll end up needing, but 9 is comfortable for most people, probably
[06:16] <dwidmann> notv: look for EE in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:16] <hydrogen> level1: probably WIN + p, right?
[06:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly surely you aren't talking about linux ?
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, no, for kubu...are you high?
[06:16] <level1> hydrogen: I don't think you understand the problem
[06:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it won't take 3g for the system
[06:17] <Kubuntero> !ps3
[06:17] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i like a little more breathing room
[06:17] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: you already knew the answer to that question before you asked it :s
[06:17] <hydrogen> level1: well, if I know the key combination I might be able to tell you where its coming from
[06:17] <hydrogen> I think its probably an amarok global shortcut
[06:17] <notv> it says vesa(0): no matching modes
[06:17] <notv> (EE) screen found, but none have a usable configuration
[06:18] <hydrogen> notv: if you are  putting windows on via virtualbox it makes a partition file on the partition
[06:18] <hydrogen> so it needs to be a big enough partition to hold vista and linux
[06:18] <notv> ubuntu doesnt want me to have a screen on my toshiba
[06:18] <dwidmann> notv, that's a good start, but someone else can help you narrow it down the rest of the way, as I need to go to bed and not sleep
[06:18] <level1> hydrogen: theres a particular key on my keyboard (XF86Media) that opens a new instance of amarok, its not part of the amarok config and its not mentioned in the KMenu editor.  I want XF86Media to open the kopete window, but I can't because something is grabbing the event and redirecting it to amarok.  What?
[06:19] <hydrogen> ah
[06:19] <notv> how do i fix the x window problem?
[06:19] <Doctor_Nick> is there a way of artificially slowing down processes on linux?
[06:19] <rrbiz> I installed outlook 2000, but it needs IE4 or IE5 and either ones wanted to go online to update b4 installing, someone know a trick around this ?
[06:20] <Kubuntero> Doctor_Nick: what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <rrbiz> using wine for the installs
[06:20] <Doctor_Nick> im running a simple c program with an infinite loop
[06:20] <level1> notv: In my experience, that means that the driver you have chosen for you computer isn't working correctly and you'll have to either fix the driver or choose another one
[06:20] <Kubuntero> Doctor_Nick: toss in a sleep
[06:20] <Doctor_Nick> the caveat is that I cant use sleep :P
[06:20] <hydrogen> level1: I'd think it might be khotkeys?
[06:21] <jared__> I have a question if someone has time?
[06:21] <level1> hydrogen: it said "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed." but I can still use my hotkeys
[06:21] <level1> !ask | jared__
[06:21] <Ubotu> jared__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:23] <nemisis> does anyone know how to disable suspend in fiesty?
[06:23] <hydrogen> level1: hmm
[06:23] <hydrogen> level1: its a mystery!
[06:24] <level1> a myyysteryyy!
[06:24] <level1> nemisis: theres probably more than one way... do you want it perminately or temper (ack I can't spell that word)
[06:24] <jared__> Oh, okay.  Haha.  My question is this -- what program is it that you get to have the little bar at the bottom of your screen that mimics the little toolbar that the MacOS has built in?
[06:24] <level1> temporary
[06:25] <notv> how do i choose another one if it wont boot up?
[06:25] <notv> its giving me the message on install
[06:25] <jared__> I have been searching, and searching, and SEARCHING for the name, but with no luck whatsoever
[06:25] <level1> notv: you have to edit xorg.conf from the command line, unfortunately
[06:25] <notv> how do i get to that
[06:26] <notv> will it still install
[06:26] <level1> jared__: theres more than one, unfortunately, I can't remember the name of any of them
[06:26] <notv> because it seems like it freezes up
[06:26] <jared__> Awww.  :(
[06:26] <level1> notv: this is from the livecd?
[06:26] <Kubuntero> !dock
[06:26] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <notv> i burned an ISO
[06:26] <Kubuntero> jared__: try kxdock
[06:26] <nemisis> jared__: temporary, something causes it to have a I/O error, repeatedly. i can't use Shift+sysrq either.
[06:26] <notv> maybe it just takes a year to run the local boot scripts..?
[06:26] <Kubuntero> !find dock
[06:26] <naknomik> I am trying to add a folder on my Samba share to my amarok collection, but can't figure out how to do that.
[06:27] <purpleposeidon> Can someone tell me the IP adress of google.com? I'm having some rather odd google-related issues.
[06:27] <Ubotu> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 4 others)
[06:27] <Kubuntero> !info kooldock
[06:27] <Ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[06:27] <Kubuntero> !info kdocker
[06:27] <Ubotu> kdocker: minimize all applications to system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 100 kB, installed size 324 kB
[06:27] <Kubuntero> Hmm not quite that
[06:27] <level1> notv: you get a blank screen or a screen with a single cursor on startup?
[06:28] <notv> it was loading
[06:28] <level1> notv: they thought they have fixed that, but my laptop won't boot from the livecd either
[06:28] <bigleon> yeah thts a load screen
[06:28] <naknomik> Trying KDE 4 on Feisty. Plasma seems to be broken, has anybody successfully installed it yet?
[06:28] <level1> notv: and it takes forever?
[06:28] <bigleon> which cd level1?
[06:28] <notv> starting kernal log, bluetooth, etc, checking battery state...
[06:28] <level1> naknomik: I didn't have any trouble
[06:28] <notv> running local boot scripts
[06:28] <notv> then i have a cursor
[06:28] <notv> it appears to be frozen
[06:28] <bigleon> I'm running on a inspiron E1705
[06:29] <Kubuntero> naknomik: it's just a little broken
[06:29] <level1> bigleon: the kubuntu fiesty install cd... the only way to get it to start is to install fglrx
[06:29] <bigleon> although i only got a 6.06 cd trying to updating to feisty has been nuts
[06:29] <Kubuntero> hi bigleon :)
[06:29] <level1> bigleon: I have the same model
[06:29] <naknomik> level1: for me the panel is empty and I only see two blobs saying 'The object could not be loaded' or something to that effect.
[06:29] <bigleon> Oh whats wrong
[06:29] <bigleon> ??
[06:29] <word> lnx_: right click desktop -> configure desktop -> background section -> advanced options-> width for icon text-> Auto  lines for icon text->1
[06:29] <bigleon> i might be having same issues lmao
[06:29] <level1> naknomik: hmm... might be the newer versions... thats plasma
[06:29] <bigleon> is your modified or stock level1?
[06:30] <jared__> So, kooldock?
[06:30] <level1> notv: okay, press alt-ctrl-f4
[06:30] <level1> bigleon: its stock
[06:30] <naknomik> all I did was add backports repo and did upgrade.
[06:30] <Kubuntero> !info kxdock
[06:30] <level1> bigleon: it have a mobility radeon X1400
[06:30] <Ubotu> Package kxdock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:30] <naknomik> it pulled all the packages. but something is sure broken.
[06:30] <bigleon> i got my states saved to my xfire page
[06:31] <Kubuntero> http://galigio.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/how-to-add-a-cool-mac-os-x-dock-in-your-linux-two-different-solutions-for-kubuntu/
[06:31] <bigleon> stats(
[06:31] <level1> naknomik: you might have more luck compiling from source or getting a livecd... you might also try getting help on #kde4-devel or at techbase.kde.org
[06:31] <naknomik> Can I add a folder to Amarok collection from samba?
[06:31] <bigleon> i got same one, so what do i need to do to get it to work?
[06:31] <Kubuntero> jared__: ^^^
[06:31] <level1> notv: do you have a login screen or some such?
[06:32] <notv> yes
[06:32] <level1> notv: you can login as root... type "root" at the prompt and then golly, I don't know if you have the password
[06:32] <notv> ubuntu@ubuntu:$
[06:32] <level1> thats a probelm
[06:32] <level1> oh, autologin, okay
[06:33] <level1> what happens when you type "sudo ls"?
[06:33] <notv> desktop
[06:33] <level1> okay, thats good
[06:33] <level1> notv: are you on a ati card, right?
[06:33] <level1> radeon or some such?
[06:34] <naknomik> What does the 'Full Upgrade' button on Adept really do?
[06:34] <notv> hmmm
[06:34] <notv> i dont know the card specs, i just bought it
[06:34] <hydrogen> naknomik: upgrades anything that can be safely upgraded
[06:34] <notv> im sure its ati
[06:34] <level1> naknomik: it should get all the new upgrades for ubuntu and upgrade it
[06:34] <hydrogen> after fetching new lists from the repo's
[06:34] <notv> ati radeon
[06:34] <level1> notv: okay, try typing "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[06:34] <notv> yes
[06:34] <bigleon> level1: do i need to run like sudo apt-get install fglrx
[06:35] <bigleon> oh prolly then yes lol
[06:35] <level1> and answer yes if asks any questions
[06:35] <notv> beep
[06:35] <notv> whirr
[06:35] <level1> lol, thats the only way I got it working
[06:35] <bigleon> don't forget to give ur pass if it ask lmao
[06:35] <notv> couldnt find
[06:35] <logreeval> Hello, I was just curious about what the difference between the gnome and KDE difference is?
[06:35] <naknomik> level1: that's what I did after adding backports (Unsupported Updates) repository. and KDE4 was pulled in.
[06:35] <level1> notv: does taht computer have internet?
[06:35] <naknomik> How do I know if what I got was KDE4 beta 2?
[06:35] <notv> sure
[06:36] <notv> well
[06:36] <level1> naknomik: maybe you need a few more upgrades... sometimes its hard to know
[06:36] <notv> i have a wireless network
[06:36] <hydrogen> logreeval: mentality and look
[06:36] <Kubuntero> logreeval: really want to get into that? :)
[06:36] <notv> i found a forum page
[06:36] <bigleon> yo level1 you get ur buttons to work on front of your laptop ?
[06:36] <naknomik> level1: and how do I get those few more upgrades?
[06:36] <level1> notv: oh, I don't know how to connect to a wireless on the commandline, I know its possible
[06:36] <logreeval> hydrogen: cool Kubuntero: maybe ;)
[06:36] <level1> hold on, let me see if I can find out
[06:36] <notv> levell the forum says to choose an alternate install cd because the graphical install wont recognize the card
[06:37] <Kubuntero> logreeval: what are you looking for?
[06:37] <naknomik> Can I add a folder on Samba share to Amarok collection?
[06:37] <logreeval> Well, i was just thinking of looking for a little bit lighter
[06:37] <level1> bigleon: I seem to remember they "just worked" but theres a way to get them working if you have toruble
[06:37] <logreeval> running system
[06:37] <level1> notv: that might be a good idea, but you don't have to
[06:38] <notv> whats the easiest solution levell?
[06:38] <bob1nz> i keep getting this message when doing modprobe not sure what it means
[06:38] <bob1nz> The program 'modprobe' can be found in the following packages:
[06:38] <bob1nz>  * modutils
[06:38] <bob1nz>  * module-init-tools
[06:38] <bob1nz> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[06:38] <bob1nz> bash: modprobe: command not found
[06:38] <notv> nstalling Windows XP drivers for Atheros AR5007EG wireless chipset:
[06:38] <level1> !paste | bob1nz
[06:38] <Ubotu> bob1nz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <bigleon> Kubuntero i can't seem to remeber where i remeber you from?
[06:38] <bigleon> were you on lastnight when i was having hell?
[06:38] <bob1nz> sorry
[06:38] <Kubuntero> bigleon: Konversation hates you
[06:38] <level1> bob1nz: its okay
[06:39] <level1> notv: you have an atheros wireless card?
[06:39] <logreeval> Kubuntero: Would i notice a difference with a 2.0 GHz 512ram 40gig hard drive computer switching to KDE?
[06:39] <bigleon> that it does kubuntero
[06:39] <Kubuntero> logreeval: well it's kinda funny
[06:39] <bigleon> i just had a 102 sec lag spike
[06:39] <bob1nz> does anyone know what it means though
[06:39] <Kubuntero> logreeval: I think that gnome uses less RAM on boot up but KDE uses much less RAM on actual usage
[06:39] <bigleon> what are you switching from longreeval
[06:39] <bigleon> kde is jsut better
[06:39] <bigleon> end of story
[06:40] <logreeval> lol
[06:40] <logreeval> well im in a biased channel ;)
[06:40] <bigleon> gnome is like natures retard
[06:40] <bigleon> :P
[06:40] <logreeval> i have Ubuntu regular gnome version
[06:40] <bigleon> the lemming haha
[06:40] <level1> bigleon: some people do find kde is too slow for them, but unless you have a slow computer there is really no reason to use gnome
[06:40] <bigleon> I got 2 gb's under the hood
[06:40] <bigleon> plus 160gig's of hd space
[06:40] <Kubuntero> logreeval: Here's the twisted thign about Linux
[06:40] <hydrogen> gnome is just as fat as kde
[06:41] <level1> logreeval: its worth giving it a whirl, you can always uninstall it later
[06:41] <Kubuntero> logreeval: You can try it ... for free ... for as long as you like
[06:41] <Kubuntero> It's Krazy
[06:41] <bigleon> Rofl
[06:41] <notv> how do i enable all the repositories with no gui?
[06:41] <logreeval> Kubuntero: well im running ubuntu right now so cant i just install kubuntu from the synaptic?
[06:41] <hydrogen> and you can get a full refund at any point!
[06:41] <Kubuntero> but you actually get to decide from multiple choices which one works for you .. for free
[06:41] <hydrogen> notv: i think you can from within aptitude
[06:41] <Kubuntero> !kubuntu
[06:41] <Ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> notv: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:41] <level1> notv: lol, well you have to do "editor /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:42] <Kubuntero> logreeval: just install the package kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <notv> i picked a bad night for this
[06:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> and uncomment the ones you need
[06:42] <bigleon> 8 minutes left after 4 hours of updates wooo
[06:42] <Kubuntero> to get rid of it is easy as well :-)
[06:42] <level1> notv: lol, usually, this "just works" but for some reason certian video cards really suck
[06:42] <logreeval> Kubuntero: then what?
[06:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> Kubuntero: make sure he uses aptitude, otherwise it's not so easy to remove.
[06:42] <notv> do i need ndiswrapper first>?
[06:42] <logreeval> Kubuntero: restart? ctrl alt backspace?
[06:42] <notv> yea damn you radeon
[06:43] <Kubuntero> Daisuke_Laptop: huh? Oh to remove it
[06:43] <bigleon> ndiswrapper is a nitmare notv
[06:43] <Kubuntero> logreeval: Logout then on the login screen choose KDE
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, use aptitude to install or remove
[06:43] <level1> notv: well, for an atheros card you should be a able to get it working without ndiswrapper
[06:43] <level1> am I right boys?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> aptitude is better at handling dependencies (which is all the kubuntu-desktop is) and can remove them easily
[06:43] <logreeval> Kubuntero: ok....but how big is the download of kubuntu-desktop?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep, atheros is pretty easy
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> ath0
[06:44] <naknomik> Is there a way to add a folder on samba share to Amarok collection?
[06:44] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: apparently the driver is still lrm... I tought it was free
[06:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[06:44] <bigleon> thanks alot Kubuntero you talk about konversation hating me and it goes on a hate streak
[06:44] <level1> naknomik: have you tried it?
[06:45] <flaccid> naknomik: it should get mounted to /media/something
[06:45] <notv> i have no idea what to do next
[06:45] <notv> i dont think im connected to the net
[06:45] <level1> notv: have you modified sources.list?
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> i take it you're not on the affected machine
[06:45] <bigleon> notv try and ping google.com to see if yo have a connection
[06:45] <bob1nz> hey sorry bwt before i pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37289/ if any one can help
[06:45] <level1> well, you have to do "iwconfig ath0" and see what it does, but you might consider dling and installing the alternate install cd.
[06:46] <naknomik> flaccid: I visited smb://host/folder in conq, how would that get mounted as /media/something?
[06:46] <Kubuntero> Daisuke_Laptop: you can just remove kdelibs4c2a and it will drag the rest of KDE with it
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> heh, i wonder how much traffic google gets every day from test pings...
[06:46] <level1> bol
[06:46] <bigleon> hitmanWilly from me, a shit load
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> same here
[06:46] <level1> bob1nz: did you do "sudo modprobe suchandsuch"?
[06:46] <flaccid> naknomik: sorry i misread. i believe you have to mount the samba share to somewhere either /mnt or /media ie. put it in your fstab
[06:46] <bigleon> i let my computer ping it from an entire  vacation just to see how many packets i would loose over period of 2 weeks
[06:46] <flaccid> !samba | naknomik
[06:46] <Ubotu> naknomik: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:47] <flaccid> first link naknomik
[06:47] <bob1nz> yes i did sudo modprobe saa7134
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> considering that's the site i would imagine most people test ping, i imagine a lot
[06:47] <level1> hitmanWilly: google does'nt pay for bandwidth, so why not?
[06:47] <Kubuntero> !language | bigleon
[06:47] <Ubotu> bigleon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:47] <bigleon> woah did i say something?
[06:47] <level1> yeah, I didn't see him swear
[06:47] <bigleon> yup... gah
[06:47] <bigleon> i used the big 4 letter s word
[06:48] <level1> oh
[06:48] <bigleon> it's sad when i didn't even see my self
[06:48] <notv> file name to write: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> sudo? lol
[06:48] <notv> error writing , permission denied
[06:48] <notv> it wont let me save the changes
[06:48] <bigleon> "for the love of SUDO!"
[06:48] <level1> bob1nz: thats weird... modprobe should be install... why not try installing it?
[06:48] <level1> sudo get me a cup of coffee!
[06:48] <bob1nz> i tried will do it again and paste the output
[06:48] <bigleon> yo level one where did you get fglrx
[06:48] <level1> notv: when you did it, did you do it with "sudo"?
[06:48] <notv> i thought i was in autoroot
[06:49] <level1> notv: nah, try again with sudo... my mistake, sorry
[06:49] <level1> never heard of autoroot
[06:49] <bigleon> auto root sounds like a linux myth
[06:49] <notv> got it
[06:49] <notv> yea i made it up
[06:50] <notv> what do i do next?
[06:50] <level1> bigleon: linux myths, lol... did you hear reiser killed his wife?
[06:50] <level1> guess thats not a myth
[06:50] <bigleon> "and today we will open the book of "autoroot" "
[06:50] <notv> do i need drivers for the ati card and the atheros card?
[06:50] <bigleon> reiser?
[06:51] <Kubuntero> level1: they proved it?
[06:51] <level1> notv: well, to get online, you have to do iwconfig... if you don't have drivers for your cards, then theres no use, just get the alternate install cd, so lets assume you do
[06:51] <bob1nz> heres the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/159/
[06:51] <level1> Kubuntero: thats what i heard, maybe I'm wrong
[06:51] <level1> hey, his file system was good
[06:51] <jared__> Okay....I got KoolDock and it's AWESOME!!!
[06:52] <level1> Kubuntero: wow, thats weird
[06:52] <level1> Kubuntero: did you try 'sudo apt-get install modprobe'?
[06:52] <jared__> But my next question is this -- how do you move it to the top of the screen?
[06:52] <Kubuntero> level1: Eh?
[06:52] <jared__> Or can you?  is that even possible?
[06:52] <level1> oh sorry
[06:52] <level1> Kubuntero: not you, bob1nz
[06:52] <jared__> I've seen some screenshots where the dock was up top....
[06:52] <bigleon> oh god... i'm scared i just wantched linux remove everything
[06:52] <bigleon> x-server
[06:53] <bigleon> i have a feeling next time i reboot... it's not going to work
[06:53] <level1> bigleon: what did you do?
[06:53] <bigleon> apt-get -f install
[06:53] <notv> what if i update the network interfaces
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, did it remove it or just upgrade it
[06:53] <bigleon> i don't see it installing a new verison
[06:53] <bigleon> only removing
[06:53] <level1> bigleon: uh oh
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, this is fixable, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> before you reboot
[06:54] <level1> notv: I think you want to do "sudo iwconfig essid yourrouter"
[06:54] <kkathman> lol
[06:54] <bigleon> i have unment depdencies
[06:55] <naknomik> I have a linux machine with some files to share, what would be faster/efficient way to share those? samba or nfs?
[06:55] <notv> essid yourrouter?
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, sounds like the upgrade borked
[06:55] <kkathman> naknomik: mixed network ??
[06:55] <bigleon> hitman i'm going to cry if that happened
[06:55] <naknomik> kkathman: yes.
[06:55] <kkathman> naknomik: and is time a factor?
[06:55] <kkathman> i.e. you need it working immediately?
[06:55] <notv> what is "yourrouter" supposed to be
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, there may be a way, hold on...
[06:55] <level1> notv: do you know the name of your wireless router? also, is it wep protected? (ie needs a password)?
[06:55] <notv> the model number?
[06:56] <notv> yes its wep protected
[06:56] <notv> ive got the pw
[06:56] <notv> i dont know its name
[06:56] <naknomik> kkathman: I already have samba setup, but would exporting the same shares as NFS make access from linux machines faster?
[06:56] <Kubuntero> bigleon: Did it just remove X ?
[06:56] <level1> notv: usually, when you connect to a wireless router, it has a name like "linksys" or "2Wire729" or something
[06:56] <bigleon> well i ran the orginal install script again
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[06:56] <kkathman> naknomik:  quite possibly yes
[06:57] <kkathman> naknomik:  however it might be only neglibly
[06:57] <notv> im connected to it on this computer via ethernet. can i locate the routers name somewhere/?
[06:57] <bigleon> what is deforma?
[06:57] <level1> notv: okay, "sudo iwconfig essid yourrouter key s:yourpassword" should be it
[06:57] <bigleon> i've seen alot of  "errors" there
[06:57] <level1> notv: that could have save us a lot of time
[06:57] <level1> notv: you have an ethernet connection?
[06:57] <Kubuntero> defoma ?
[06:58] <bigleon> something like that sorry it's scrolling uber quick XD
[06:58] <notv> yea but i only have the one cable
[06:58] <level1> notv: oh, bummer
[06:58] <level1> notv: well, see, I'm not sure how to make the computer connect to the router once you plug it in... you might try rebooting
[06:58] <naknomik> Does Amarok support DAAP?
[06:59] <Kubuntero> your font server it sounds like
[06:59] <Kubuntero> naknomik: Yes
[06:59] <level1> notv: but maybe you should just get the alternate install cd and do that
[06:59] <naknomik> Kubuntero: how do I use it? I have a DAAP (firefly) running on the network.
[07:00] <bigleon> man i love american pie 1 a good movie every time
[07:00] <bigleon> okay i'm scared i just this long list of stuff being removed
[07:00] <level1> bigleon: whats going on?
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, you may need to reinstall
[07:01] <bigleon> updates
[07:01] <bigleon> it's installing too
[07:01] <bigleon> level1 what is that video driver i need to install ???
[07:01] <bigleon> fglrx or w/e
[07:01] <level1> bigleon: you have my computer, right?  with an X1400?
[07:01] <bigleon> yup
[07:01] <level1> bigleon: I use vesa
[07:01] <level1> bigleon: its faster than fglrx
[07:01] <bigleon> w/e works
[07:02] <level1> whats w/e?
[07:02] <bigleon> what ever
[07:02] <level1> bigleon: vesa is the fallback driver... it will do all the rendering on the cpu, and the cpu on that computer is faster than the video card
[07:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: that's awesome if you don't want any 3d.  at all
[07:03] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: well, its not worth running compiz on an ati card
[07:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is true.
[07:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> should be getting better soon though.
[07:03] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: I'm all for it if you have an nvidia card, but if you have an ati card, its just not worth it
[07:03] <bigleon> so i'll let you know when this pack stops so you can give me how too i think it's almsot done its going through things that start with "X"
[07:04] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: also, on that laptop, fglrx could actually cause the cpu to overheat
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, after that stops, try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[07:04] <level1> and its a much nicer cpu than graphics card
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> now this is multitasking.
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i've got to get some sleep, work tomorrow
[07:05] <bobthecow> i've got this crazy split screen thing that happens every time my monitor suspends... anyone run into that?
[07:05] <naknomik> How do I get Amarok to play MP3s?
[07:05] <bobthecow> http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8474/dsc00123ji3.jpg
[07:05] <level1> naknomik: you have to install libxine-extracodecs I think is the package
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> munching on key lime pie, arguing the merits/perils of ati cards, and studying for a trig exam at 10:30 tomorrow morning :\
[07:06] <bigleon> have a good night hitman
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> heh, later than
[07:06] <level1> naknomik: if you'r using amarok, you should invest in using pgsql
[07:06] <naknomik> I already have a mysql server running on network.
[07:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: *depending on collection size
[07:07] <level1> naknomik: it makes amarok about 1.72 million times faster, according to benchmarks
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would drown in update time if i relied on sqlite
[07:07] <level1> naknomik: mysql is also good
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i use mysql and it's a whole lot nicer than the default.
[07:07] <naknomik> level1: do I need to have a mysql/pgsql running locally on or one on my lan is ok?
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you have a couple hundred songs, sqlite is fine
[07:07] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: I think they should make sql the default
[07:07] <naknomik> Daisuke_Ido: I have about 5000
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: i agree, but that means making mysql a default install
[07:08] <level1> naknomik: I'm not sure, actually, you might need to install it locally
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> naknomik: go mysql
[07:08] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: maybe someone can make an autoscript
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm sitting on 22k+, so sqlite is NOT an option
[07:08] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: is mysql different that pgsql as far as amarok is concerned?
[07:08] <\\CrAnE> Hi, I am trying to install build-essential-11.1 and it says i need dpkg-dev first ??? could someone tell me what that means please?
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: don't think so
[07:09] <naknomik> actually I'm thinking using a DAAP only, as all my songs on the server that already runs a DAAP server.
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> \\CrAnE: why not just install build-essential?
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> rather than a particular version
[07:09] <naknomik> does Amarok need a plugin to enable DAAP support?
[07:09] <\\CrAnE> I don't know I am new at this is that easier?
[07:09] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" in Konsole. waaay easier
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you're new, why are you building things? :)  most of what you'll ever need is in the !repositories
[07:10] <\\CrAnE> thank you so much Jucato!!
[07:10] <Jucato> !compile | \\CrAnE
[07:10] <Ubotu> \\CrAnE: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:10] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages. There's a big chance what you're trying to compile is already there
[07:11] <level1> a lot of people what linuxes to install everything from source... these are the same people that make configure scripts that refuse to work correctly
[07:11] <\\CrAnE> You are awesome Jucato ;)!!!!
[07:12] <Jucato> no I'm not :)
[07:12] <level1> why can't configure just *pretend* to work
[07:12] <Jucato> level1: because it's not from MS? It doesn't want to lie? :)
[07:12] <level1> lol
[07:13] <baudthief> anyone running compiz with an nvidia card?
[07:13] <baudthief> *fusion
[07:13] <level1> baudthief: I have, whats the problem?
[07:13] <bobthecow> baudthief: yep
[07:13] <CrackityJonesBab> aloha
[07:13] <baudthief> http://www.horizons-edge.com.au/snapshot14.png <=- thats the problem lol
[07:14] <level1> !anyone
[07:14] <Ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:14] <baudthief> thats what happens after I run compiz -- replace
[07:14] <baudthief> usable area turns into a small square, the rest of the screen is blank
[07:14] <level1> I'm amazed you got a screenshot of that, thats incredible
[07:14] <baudthief> hah yeah I'm surprised it even worked
[07:14] <bobthecow> that's pretty cool...
[07:14] <CrackityJonesBab> Does anyone/anybody know how to use the start menu?
[07:14] <CrackityJonesBab> joke
[07:14] <level1> maybe?
[07:15] <Jucato> Start what?
[07:15] <level1> oh, you mean the taskbar
[07:15] <Jucato> hm... you're all amazed while baudthief is annoyed :)
[07:15] <CrackityJonesBab> just injecitng humor into the situation.
[07:15] <baudthief> lol
[07:15] <level1> baudthief: what card, what driver?
[07:15] <Jucato> baudthief: tried asking in #ubuntu-effects ?
[07:16] <naknomik> How do I add a DAAP support for Amarok?
[07:16] <level1> I'm not a fan of aramanth's repository... the kde support is non-exsistant
[07:16] <Jucato> naknomik: if you don't get an answer in here, you can try #amarok
[07:16] <level1> so I don't use compiz
[07:16] <baudthief> Jucato: No reply, car is nvidia 7600GS / 256MB
[07:16] <baudthief> driver... well, to be honest I have no idea lol, its the latest proprietary one
[07:16] <CrackityJonesBab> i finally got beryl to work. :)
[07:16] <baudthief> I think I used envy to install it
[07:17] <Jucato> naknomik: amarok seems to also have a handbook. might find something there
[07:17] <level1> baudthief: there have been some complaints about envy
[07:17] <Jucato> !envy
[07:17] <Ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:17] <level1> those kinds of complaints
[07:17] <Jucato> the basic reasoning about these 3rd-party scripts/tools is that they're 3rd party. we cannot guarantee support for them
[07:18] <\\CrAnE> one more question whats the path to my tcl library?
[07:18] <CrackityJones> is automatix third party?
[07:18] <level1> baudthief: you might try uninstalling the drivers and then reinstalling them using the repositories
[07:18] <baudthief> I just followed a tutorial of how to upgrade to compiz from beryl heh - they recommended using that tool to upgrade my nvidia drivers. I did, then installed compiz - wasn't impressed, so I uninstalled compiz and went back to beryl - however now beryls crashing alot, so I wanna give compiz another shot and apply some fixes heh
[07:18] <Jucato> CrackityJones: oh most definitely
[07:18] <Jucato> !automatix | CrackityJones
[07:18] <Ubotu> CrackityJones: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:19] <baudthief> level1: will do, gotta get my laptop out in case everything breaks lol
[07:19] <CrackityJones> okay. i won't use it anymore.
[07:19] <\\CrAnE> what is a tcl library?
[07:19] <Jucato> CrackityJones: use it if you want to or if it works for you. but that will basically be your responsibility. and we can't officially recommend it ;)
[07:19] <baudthief> what package am I looking for in the repositories?
[07:19] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: what are you trying to compile?
[07:19] <CrackityJones> but the default installer and synaptic are supported, right?
[07:20] <\\CrAnE> eggdrop
[07:20] <bob1nz> can someone tell me how to change my tuner card number its currently 0 unknown/generic and it needs to be number 3 i think
[07:20] <Jucato> CrackityJones: of course. anything that's in the official repositories are supported (to varying degrees)
[07:20] <level1> what would you need automatix for?  if you know the names of the packages you can do  all the work yourself
[07:20] <CrackityJones> okay
[07:20] <Jucato> !info eggdrop | \\CrAnE
[07:20] <Ubotu> \\crane: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[07:20] <CrackityJones> just used automatix for my complimetary dvd codecs.
[07:21] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: like what I said earlier, try to search in and use the package management first before you go out compiling stuff
[07:21] <level1> CrackityJones: I think the package for that is dvd-css2 or something
[07:21] <CrackityJones> okay cool.
[07:21] <\\CrAnE> i did
[07:21] <\\CrAnE> and its telling me to do sometihng i dont understnad
[07:21] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: what?
[07:22] <\\CrAnE> ./configure --with-tclinc='<full path to tcl.h>'
[07:22] <\\CrAnE>             --with-tcllib='<full path to Tcl library>'
[07:22] <level1> CrackityJones: actually, it might be libdvdread3
[07:22] <naknomik> How do I configure extra keys on my media keyboard?
[07:22] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: you're not using the package manager. you're trying to compile
[07:22] <Jucato> !keys
[07:22] <Ubotu> Trying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[07:22] <nalle> .
[07:23] <CrackityJones> i'll check it out. okay, say i uninstall automatix: will it also uninstall the codecs? or do they stay on my system?
[07:23] <klobster> is there an nvidia fan control program available?
[07:23] <\\CrAnE> iam sorry jucato i am so stupid with this... where is the package manager
[07:23] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager. search for eggdrop, right-click -> Request Install. click on Apply Changes, and you're done
[07:23] <level1> CrackityJones: I'm sure everything it did will still remain
[07:23] <Jucato> !software
[07:23] <Ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[07:24] <baudthief> Am I also supposed to remove nvidia-kernel-* as well as nvidia-glx?
[07:24] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware specially the part for Kubuntu (scroll down a bit)
[07:24] <\\CrAnE> k
[07:25] <level1> "Please NOTE that downloading and installing w32codecs, libdvdcss2 and other non-free codecs without paying a fee to the concerned authorities constitutes a CRIME in the United States of America" Somewhat dubious legal advice - the issue has nothing to do with fees, and isn't just limited to the USA.
[07:25] <level1> what does that mean?
[07:25] <CrackityJones> level.....proprietary codecs. they're owned by companies.
[07:25] <Jucato> it means that in some countries, it's illegal to use those stuff without permission
[07:25] <Jucato> and sometimes permission requires the payment of fees... sometimes it's just plain illegal
[07:26] <level1> CrackityJones: I meant the afterthought... I'm familar with the part in quotes
[07:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> and sometimes arnieboy's just talking out of his gluteus maximus.
[07:26] <level1> where are you?
[07:26] <mefisto__> can anyone recommend a search tool for kde that's better than the default Find Files/Folders?
[07:26] <Jucato> somewhere you won't find :)
[07:26] <Jucato> mefisto__: locate:/ in Konqueror?
[07:27] <Jucato> which is basically a frontend to locate/slocate in the command line
[07:27] <level1> I'd pay money to the dvd consortium if I had to, I just don't understand why I have to use windows just to play dvds
[07:27] <Jucato> which is basically a simple search/indexing program
[07:27] <jokijo> hey everyone, i JUST switched to kubuntu, never been on any linux ever, migrated from xp
[07:27] <mefisto__> Jucato: that only searches linux disks, right?
[07:28] <Jucato> mefisto__: it searches whatever's indexed by the locate db... I don't know how to configure that though :)
[07:28] <Jucato> all I know is how to update the db: sudo updatedb
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> ok I dont have an adept-manager so I went to the add/remove thingy added something called adept
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> an when i try to open it
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> it has an error
[07:29] <AmyRose> How do I get OpenOffice.org to stop using that horrible bytecode font hinting, without having to recompile FreeType?
[07:29] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: what do you mean you don't have Adept Manager?
[07:29] <Jucato> and what's the error
[07:29] <Jucato> hi AmyRose. :)
[07:29] <Jucato> (sorry no idea about that one)
[07:29] <AmyRose> hi, Jucato
[07:29] <level1> hey AmyRose
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> Could not launch menu item
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> Details: Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or director
[07:30] <Jucato> O.o
[07:30] <bobthecow> \\CrAnE how did you manage to get rid of kdesu?
[07:30] <bobthecow> open a terminal
[07:30] <\\CrAnE> i have no idea what kdesu is?
[07:30] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: ok I'll try to make this simple: in Konsole, type "sudo apt-get install eggdrop"
[07:30] <bobthecow> sudo apt-get install kdesu
[07:31] <Jucato> bobthecow: I don't think kdesu is a separate package
[07:31] <Jucato> it's part of kdelibs or kdebase last I checked)
[07:31] <\\CrAnE> lol
[07:31] <Kubuntero> jokijo: Wlecome
[07:31] <Jucato> yep, kdebase-bin
[07:31] <bobthecow>  yeah
[07:31] <bobthecow> that one.
[07:32] <Kubuntero> AmyRose: play any games?
[07:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> o-ho-ho i am sooo screwed :\
[07:32] <Jucato> thanks :)
[07:32] <genii> np
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> ok i give up
[07:32] <Kubuntero> Daisuke_Laptop: family chan! we dont want to hear about it!
[07:32] <bobthecow> don't give up...
[07:32] <Jucato> oh crap... coffee at 32.3 C doesn't sound nice...
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> Reading package lists... Done
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> E: Couldn't find package eggdrop
[07:32] <Kubuntero> !info eggdrop
[07:32] <Ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[07:32] <level1> hey genii... you were one of the first people to help me with a linux problem... I was premiersullivan back then
[07:33] <Kubuntero> \\CrAnE: it's in universe :)
[07:33] <AmyRose> darn it, the OpenOffice.org Font Guide recommends that crappy bytecode interpreter...
[07:33] <level1> genii: I still can't get that tvtuner to work
[07:33] <Jucato> someone help \\CrAnE for a while.. need to be gone...
[07:33] <Jucato> !openoffice
[07:33] <Ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:33] <bobthecow> it's in universe, but he's got no graphical installer..
[07:33] <Jucato> AmyRose: there's a channel there ^^^^
[07:33] <genii> level1: Ah, I think that was the USB TV Wonder yes?
[07:33] <\\CrAnE> you all are a whole lot nicer then #linux on undernet
[07:33] <level1> genii: USB2...  \\CrAnE. this is going to be fun.
[07:35] <Kubuntero> level1: I guessed :)
[07:35] <Kubuntero> !repos | \\CrAnE
[07:35] <Ubotu> \\CrAnE: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:35] <\\CrAnE> i can make it a little easier on you bobthecow
[07:35] <level1> genii: my mom wants me to set up a media center for her
[07:35] <crane> hmm
[07:35] <crane> n/m someone owns this name
[07:35] <bobthecow> crane thx
[07:35] <genii> underdog5004: Heys I'm alive LOL
[07:36] <crane> I could do more on linux when i was 11
[07:36] <crane> 10 years later i am dumb now lol
[07:36] <bobthecow> crane: you got a konsole open?
[07:36] <crane> yes
[07:37] <BaudXP> argh my installation broke after reinstalling the nvidia drivers :(
[07:37] <bobthecow> crane: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[07:37] <BaudXP> pc wont start anymore, I get "Failed to load the nvidia kernel module"
[07:37] <level1> BaudXP: a likely story
[07:37] <crane> ok done
[07:38] <BaudXP> well, by comparison, this is far worse than not having pretty beryk effects lol
[07:38] <BaudXP> what couldve went wrong? I installed from the repo like suggested
[07:38] <level1> BaudXP: you kinda have two choices, switch to a different driver long enough to fix nvidia in the gui, or try to fix nvidia in the command line
[07:38] <bobthecow> crane: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[07:38] <level1> or give up on nvidia
[07:38] <crane> ok done
[07:38] <BaudXP> command line is good
[07:38] <crane> ya
[07:39] <bobthecow> crane: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:39] <bobthecow> for good measure.
[07:39] <BaudXP> Sorta spilt coke on my laptop kb, so I dont know how long it's gonna stay alive
[07:39] <crane> ok done
[07:39] <level1> BaudXP: hmm... usually, I just try uninstalling and reinstall nvidia in different ways until I get it working... my expertise isn't actually that greate
[07:39] <Kubuntero> bobthecow: What?
[07:39] <kdehl> I have a problem when trying to install scim-chinese, I have no idea what's wrong.Sorry for the strange language, but I think you get the point: http://pastebin.ca/695183
[07:39] <level1> BaudXP: you installed from the repos right?
[07:39] <Kubuntero> crane: press alt+space
[07:40] <crane> synaptic is already the newest version.
[07:40] <crane> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
[07:40] <level1> BaudXP: you might try installing using nvidia's installer
[07:40] <kdehl> I can start acpid manually without any error messages.
[07:40] <level1> BaudXP: whats your card agoin?
[07:40] <BaudXP> level1: yes, from teh repos - used synaptic to remove then reinstall
[07:40] <BaudXP> 7600GS/256mb
[07:40] <bobthecow> Kubentero: what?
[07:41] <nemisis> !docks
[07:41] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <Kubuntero> ok
[07:41] <Kubuntero> I'm out
[07:41] <level1> BaudXP: yeah, one option is to download an install the driver installer from the nvidia website... this is not the "recomended" way, but for some people its the only way that works
[07:41] <crane> now what
[07:41] <BaudXP> doh
[07:42] <bobthecow> crane: what was it you were trying to install initially?
[07:42] <toogodoo> grrrrr...i just d/l kubuntu and want to install firefox but its a .gz file and i dont know how to get to that filetype in linux...whats the command to unpack a .gz file tkz
[07:42] <crane> eggdrop
[07:42] <Kubuntero> bobthecow: never mind. help him the way you know how
[07:42] <level1> BaudXP: actually, its late here and I have to go to bed in a few minutes, so maybe you can find someone else to help you or try again at a different time
[07:42] <Kubuntero> toogodoo: Ummm just install it in the package manager
[07:42] <BaudXP> :(
[07:42] <BaudXP> i've got no desktop machine to use lol
[07:42] <nemisis> toogodoo: try sudo 'aptitude firefox'
[07:42] <nemisis> toogodoo: try sudo 'aptitude install firefox'
[07:42] <level1> BaudXP: what are you using now?
[07:43] <elzbal> I just got around to setting up compiz-fusion on my Kubuntu. A lot of stuff works, but I can't get Cube or any of the other desktop pagers to come up. Any ideas? Anyone seen this?
[07:43] <BaudXP> a windows laptop with a sticky keyboard
[07:43] <Kubuntero> !install | toogodoo
[07:43] <Ubotu> toogodoo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:43] <Kubuntero> Oh wait
[07:43] <BaudXP> no matter man, i'll keep poking until I need to reinstall lol
[07:43] <Kubuntero> toogodoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[07:46] <crane> what is tcl??
[07:46] <crane> !g tcl
[07:46] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <level1> BaudXP: as I said, why don't I get you a minimum use driver so that you can get back to the gui, and then you can find more support or at least put this off until later
[07:47] <level1> BaudXP: vesa will allow you to do everything except run beryl or play videos, and it might be a bit slower, but its usuable
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !info tcl
[07:47] <Ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:48] <DaSkreech> crane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcl
[07:48] <DaSkreech> night bigleon
[07:48] <crane> cool my adept manager is working now
[07:48] <crane> what is it?
[07:48] <bigleon> what now
[07:48] <bigleon> ??
[07:49] <bigleon> i'm still here
[07:49] <DaSkreech> crane: Language
[07:49] <DaSkreech> bigleon: I'm going to bed
[07:49] <bigleon> oh
[07:49] <DaSkreech> crane: ok adept is open ?
[07:49] <BaudXP> level1: ok how do I get vesa going again?
[07:49] <bigleon> I drank a gallon of MD today
[07:49] <DaSkreech> !vesa
[07:49] <Ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[07:49] <BaudXP> at this point anything is beter than nothing
[07:49] <bigleon> i'm not sleeping anytime soon
[07:49] <level1> BaudXP: well, you do "sudo editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:49] <bobthecow> crane: still around?
[07:49] <bigleon> is this bad: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[07:50] <BaudXP> level1: replace glx with vesa?
[07:50] <BaudXP> (in xorg)
[07:50] <level1> BaudXP: then, you find a line that says something like:     Driver         "nvidia"
[07:50] <bobthecow> crane: in adept manager, Adept -> Manage Repositories
[07:50] <level1> BaudXP: under Section "Driver"
[07:50] <crane> k
[07:51] <BaudXP> got it!
[07:51] <bobthecow> Kubuntu Software tab
[07:51] <BaudXP> back to my desktop again heh
[07:51] <BaudXP> thanks
[07:51] <level1> BaudXP: cool, good luck
[07:51] <bobthecow> crane: check the first 4 boxes
[07:51] <BaudXP> thanks, will need :P
[07:52] <crane> ok i got to manage repositories
[07:52] <crane> you want me to click on kubuntu software tab?
[07:53] <bobthecow> crane: "kubuntu software" tab
[07:53] <crane> cause i dont see one
[07:53] <level1> BaudXP: if you remember what you did you can always get the desktop working again... its like a magic charm, lol
[07:53] <bobthecow> crane: you're in adept?
[07:53] <crane> yes
[07:53] <mefisto__> Jucato: thanks for the konqueror locate: tip. It's configured in /etc/updatedb.conf, by the way, then run updatedb to create the index
[07:55] <bobthecow> crane: what's the first tab called?
[07:55] <BaudXP> level1: haha got it!
[07:55] <BaudXP> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic was missing
[07:55] <pillowpants> how do i install my video drivers?
[07:55] <pillowpants> whats the wiki page?
[07:55] <pillowpants> i had it yesterday
[07:55] <crane> type: deb
[07:55] <crane> then url
[07:55] <crane> cdrom
[07:56] <crane> an a bunch of crap
[07:56] <crane> is that what your talking about?
[07:56] <BaudXP> DOH - well upgrading the nvidia drivers did not solve the compiz issue lol
[07:56] <bobthecow> not really. you running feisty?
[07:56] <crane> umm i dont know
[07:57] <bobthecow> alright. i know where you're at.
[07:57] <pillowpants> !nvidia
[07:57] <Ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <bobthecow> the last col... called "sections" ?
[07:57] <crane> no components
[07:58] <pillowpants> !resolution
[07:58] <Ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:58] <bobthecow> what does it say in that col?
[07:58] <crane> type: url: distribution: components
[07:58] <crane> those are the top thingys
[07:58] <bobthecow> awesome.
[07:58] <BaudXP> ahh forget it, i'm getting rid of compiz and going back to beryl :(
[07:58] <bobthecow> click on the first one that says "deb" under type.
[07:59] <bobthecow> we don't care about "deb-src" if you've got any of those.
[07:59] <bobthecow> we're going to chane the components.
[07:59] <crane> pl
[07:59] <crane> ok
[07:59] <bobthecow> it prob'ly says "main restricted" ?
[07:59] <bobthecow> we want it to say "main restricted universe multiverse"
[07:59] <crane> correct
[08:00] <jokijo> wow this kubuntu this is way different than anything i ever seen
[08:00] <crane> ok how do we make it say that?
[08:00] <bobthecow> when you click on the enrty, is there a set of boxes at the bottm of the window?
[08:01] <crane> reset apply close
[08:01] <bobthecow> hmmm. you've got a different version of the repo editor than i do :S
[08:01] <bobthecow> there's going to be some way of editing the entry...
[08:02] <bobthecow> i couldn't tell you exactly what without seeing your screen.
[08:02] <crane> I can add Repository
[08:02] <crane> cant edit components
[08:02] <bobthecow> nah. we want to edit the existing one.
[08:02] <bigleon> umm
[08:02] <crane> but i can edit the deb
[08:02] <crane> part
[08:02] <bigleon> i think i brokke my comp again
[08:02] <crane> but it wont let me edit the others
[08:02] <bobthecow> hmmm.
[08:02] <bobthecow> lets do it in synaptic.
[08:03] <bobthecow> exit adept
[08:03] <bigleon> level1 are you still here
[08:03] <crane> k
[08:03] <bobthecow> run synaptic.
[08:03] <level1> bigleon: maybe
[08:03] <crane> any specific way to run that?
[08:03] <bigleon> okay whats that thing i need for my video drivers
[08:03] <bigleon> when i update
[08:03] <bobthecow> sudo synaptic
[08:03] <level1> bigleon: what do you mean?
[08:03] <bigleon> my vidoe card
[08:03] <bigleon> for feisty
[08:03] <level1> bigleon: you mean, what do you have to install?
[08:04] <level1> bigleon: what card do you have agoin?  is it the X1400?
[08:04] <crane> ok iam in
[08:04] <bigleon> yeah
[08:04] <bobthecow> Settings > Repositories
[08:04] <bobthecow> should be a similar looking window
[08:05] <crane> it brings up software preferences
[08:05] <level1> bigleon: well, you install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:05] <crane> when i click that
[08:05] <bigleon> can i check if i have it?
[08:05] <bobthecow> shouldn't.
[08:06] <bobthecow> give it another go?
[08:06] <crane> brings up same window
[08:06] <bobthecow> same like software preferences, or same like adept?
[08:07] <level1> bigleon: if you already have fglrx install, it "won't go"... apt will just not install anything
[08:07] <crane> same software preferences
[08:07] <level1> so you'll be okay
[08:07] <bobthecow> grrr.
[08:07] <crane> but there is a tab for internet updates
[08:07] <bobthecow> lets do this the terminal way.
[08:07] <crane> an authenications
[08:07] <bobthecow> no. that's not going to do it.
[08:07] <crane> ok
[08:07] <bobthecow> pull up konsole.
[08:08] <crane> ok
[08:08] <bobthecow> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <bobthecow> right.
[08:08] <crane> pl
[08:08] <bobthecow> whatever :)
[08:08] <crane> ok
[08:09] <bobthecow> scroll down til you find something like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted"
[08:09] <bobthecow> go to the end of the line and add
[08:09] <bobthecow> universe multiverse
[08:11] <crane> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:11] <crane> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:11] <crane> which one?
[08:11] <bobthecow> the deb one
[08:11] <bobthecow> not deb-src
[08:12] <bobthecow> so it should say "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse"
[08:12] <bobthecow> now
[08:12] <sunilonln> hey all, i installed kde4 b2 on feisty using the instructions on the website -- all goes well, but the taskbar just shows "this object could not be created" twice. any hints to get past that?
[08:13] <bobthecow> crane: with me?
[08:14] <crane> yah
[08:14] <crane> I think i messed up
[08:14] <crane> grrrrrrrr
[08:14] <bobthecow> what's up?
[08:14] <crane> does it autosave?
[08:14] <crane> or do u have to save it?
[08:15] <bobthecow> no. it asks if you want to save.
[08:15] <bobthecow> and i lied up there ^^
[08:15] <bobthecow> it shouldn't say "feisty-updates" should just say "feisty"
[08:15] <crane> thats not good cause there is nothin on my screen that says feisty
[08:16] <bobthecow> oh. you're running dapper.
[08:16] <bobthecow> my bad.
[08:16] <bobthecow> ignore the feisty stuff.
[08:16] <bobthecow> :P
[08:16] <crane> am i suppose to erase the main restricted part?
[08:16] <crane> an replace with universe multiverse
[08:16] <bobthecow> no. you want it to say main restricted universe multiverse
[08:16] <bobthecow> all four.
[08:17] <crane> oh ok
[08:17] <crane> ok done'
[08:17] <crane> 'all four
[08:17] <bobthecow> now look for a line that says something about dapper-backports
[08:18] <bobthecow> might not be there, but if it is we need to add universe and multiverse to that one.
[08:18] <crane> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[08:18] <crane> ?
[08:19] <bobthecow> right. do the two lines under that have #'s in front of them?
[08:19] <crane> yes
[08:19] <bobthecow> so "# deb http://archive..."
[08:20] <crane> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[08:20] <crane> ## repository.
[08:20] <crane> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[08:20] <bobthecow> we're looking for the two that have deb
[08:20] <bobthecow> and deb-src
[08:20] <bobthecow> under all those with ##
[08:20] <crane> ok found them
[08:20] <bobthecow> do they have #'s?
[08:20] <crane> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:20] <crane> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:20] <crane> thats them
[08:21] <bobthecow> ok. no worries then.
[08:21] <bobthecow> just gotta save and exit.
[08:21] <crane> k
[08:21] <bobthecow> so CTRL+O to save
[08:21] <bobthecow> CTRL+X to exit
[08:22] <crane> ok
[08:22] <crane> done
[08:22] <bobthecow> sudo apt-get update
[08:23] <crane> ok
[08:23] <bobthecow> that'll update your package list
[08:23] <bobthecow> now you should be able to install eggdrop
[08:23] <bobthecow> sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[08:23] <crane> cool thank you
[08:24] <bobthecow> what we just did (the long way) was enable some extra repositories
[08:24] <bobthecow> !repos
[08:24] <Ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:24] <crane> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:24] <crane> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:24] <crane> it didnt work
[08:24] <sheldonc> is adept still maintained?
[08:24] <bobthecow> is adept or synaptic open?
[08:24] <crane> oh yah
[08:24] <crane> synaptic was
[08:24] <bobthecow> that'll do it :)
[08:25] <crane> wow
[08:25] <crane> i think its working
[08:25] <crane> k it did sometihng but i dont know how to use it??
[08:25] <crane> i know the eggdrop command stuff when uget it open online
[08:26] <crane> an stuff
[08:26] <bobthecow> i don't know either :)
[08:27] <crane> where would it have installed to?
[08:27] <bobthecow> prob'ly /usr/bin/eggdrop
[08:27] <ubunturos> crane: /usr/bin - likely
[08:29] <crane> I think I actually got further on my own earlier and I am still having the same problem here...
[08:29] <crane> when I try to configure it....
[08:30] <crane> Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[08:30] <crane> Eggdrop requires Tcl to compile. If you already have Tcl installed on
[08:30] <crane>   this system, and I just wasn't looking in the right place for it, re-run
[08:30] <crane>   ./configure using the --with-tcllib='/path/to/libtcl.so' and
[08:30] <crane>   --with-tclinc='/path/to/tcl.h' options.
[08:30] <bobthecow> shouldn't need to compile it anymore.
[08:30] <bobthecow> if the install was successful
[08:31] <crane> you have to run the configue file to setup the bot
[08:32] <crane> I will make sure
[08:32] <crane> I am erasing everything
[08:32] <crane> redoing
[08:33] <crane> that is weird
[08:34] <crane> cause it says its installed but i cant find it
[08:34] <bobthecow> sudo updatedb
[08:34] <bobthecow> then wait about a week
[08:34] <bobthecow> then "locate eggdrop"
[08:34] <bigleon1> oi guys how is everyone leon bugged his laptop again getting error "bcm43xx: Error: MIcrocode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not avalible or load failed
[08:35] <crane> whats that do?
[08:35] <bobthecow> it's a fast way to find files.
[08:35] <bobthecow> you don't actually have to wait a week in between
[08:35] <bobthecow> but the updatedb thing updates the list of files, bascally
[08:36] <baudthief> Any idea what causes "false starts" in kubuntu? ie: when you try and run an app, it looks like it's going to launch... but doesnt
[08:36] <crane> ph
[08:36] <crane> oh
[08:36] <crane> i think i found it
[08:36] <crane> its in root\eggdrop
[08:36] <crane> and u still have to configure it
[08:36] <crane> and it still gives that error
[08:36] <bobthecow> that's a strange spot to put it.
[08:36] <crane> tcl
[08:36] <Yz85Racer> Hey, how do you get mp3 support for Amarok?
[08:37] <Yz85Racer> It comes up with the message, then freezes :(
[08:37] <crane> why would it put it there automatically?
[08:38] <bobthecow> i dunno.
[08:38] <bigleon1> oi guys how is everyone leon bugged his laptop again getting error "bcm43xx: Error: MIcrocode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not avalible or load failed
[08:38] <bigleon1> my gui won't even start
[08:38] <Yz85Racer> Hey, how do you get mp3 support for Amarok?
[08:40] <bobthecow> Yz85Racer: something like libxine-extracodecs
[08:41] <Yz85Racer> mmkay
[08:41] <Yz85Racer> ill try it
[08:41] <crane> well anyways thank you sooo much for your help!!!
[08:41] <bobthecow> crane: you sure root\eggdrop is the one apt installed?
[08:41] <crane> I am going to bed I will figure the rest of this out later
[08:41] <crane> no i am not sure
[08:41] <bobthecow> :)
[08:42] <bobthecow> well good luck/
[08:42] <bobthecow> i installed eggdrop on mine, and it seems to work, FWIW
[08:42] <bobthecow> except mine's at /usr/bin/eggdrop
[08:42] <crane> where did it install to?
[08:43] <crane> how did u excute the file bob?
[08:43] <crane> what command
[08:43] <crane> execute
[08:43] <crane> lah
[08:43] <crane> blah
[08:43] <bobthecow> meh. i understood.
[08:44] <bobthecow> should work to type "/usr/bin/eggdrop" then your config file.
[08:44] <bobthecow> you got one of those yet?
[08:44] <crane> should i do that from the root su /??
[08:44] <bobthecow> should be able to do that as you.
[08:45] <bobthecow> what's it do when you run /usr/bin/eggdrop
[08:45] <bobthecow> ?
[08:46] <crane> it says config file not loaded
[08:47] <bobthecow> oh. yeah. you just need to make a config file.
[08:47] <crane> how?
[08:47] <bobthecow> there's prob'ly a sample at "/usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz"
[08:47] <crane> k
[08:47] <bobthecow> i don't really know how to use eggdrop
[08:47] <crane> ok
[08:48] <bobthecow> the guys over in #egghelp would be more help
[08:48] <crane> well thank you sooo much anyways you have been great!!
[08:48] <bobthecow> np. sorry it took so long.
[08:49] <bobthecow> you're almost there though :)
[08:49] <crane> :)
[08:49] <bigleon1> Hey question, I'm trying to get my 7.04 and according to computer everything sucesfully installed except some driver for my wireless, yet my GUI won't load
[08:49] <crane> ya
[08:50] <bigleon1> !version
[08:50] <Ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:52] <bobthecow> crane: past my bedtime now. have fun :)
[09:07] <danny500> Hi. I need help really bad
[09:07] <flaccid> !ask
[09:07] <Ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:07] <danny500> ok lol
[09:07] <danny500> do you know what WPE is?
[09:07] <flaccid> nope
[09:08] <flaccid> in what context
[09:08] <danny500> Winsoc Packet Editor
[09:08] <flaccid> ok
[09:08] <danny500> is there something like that for Ubuntu?
[09:08] <flaccid> no linux is not windows, it does not have winsoc
[09:09] <flaccid> what are you trying to achieve? you need socks/proxy ?
[09:09] <danny500> lol I know that but is there a similar app
[09:09] <flaccid> no.
[09:09] <danny500> WPE Pro is a packet editor. PermEdit grants system access to any running process. Tsearch is a cheat tool designed to search for parameters in memory.
[09:10] <flaccid> oh thats a sniffer
[09:10] <danny500> It lets you view all running process's and edit them
[09:10] <flaccid> um yeah there lots of that in linux, but this is a kubuntu help channel..
[09:10] <danny500> is there anything like that for linux?
[09:10] <flaccid> danny500: this is the wrong channel to ask
[09:10] <danny500> kubuntu has the same things as Ubuntu lol
[09:10] <danny500> ok does Kubuntu have anything like that?
[09:10] <flaccid> no
[09:11] <danny500> does anything linux have an app like that?
[09:11] <danny500> thanks for the help
[09:12] <danny500> actually is there a way to edit a currently running Java program in linux?
[09:12] <flaccid> danny500: stop.
[09:12] <danny500> oh lol Sup jucato
[09:12] <danny500> flaccid, I'm just asking a question.
[09:12] <Jucato> hi danny500
[09:13] <Jucato> the purpose of the app you are looking for is a bit... um... let's just say  "questionable"
[09:13] <flaccid> you have asked the same question in different ways many times. im loosing patience
[09:13] <flaccid> we don't help people do security related bad practices here
[09:14] <Jucato> danny500: we have packet sniffers in the repositories. but not editors.
[09:15] <Jucato> but like what flaccid mentioned, the purpose of that WPE is really questionable, and I don't think it's appropriate in here
[09:15] <kirk__> hey
[09:15] <kirk__> i just installed kubuntu, ive never been on a linux machine before
[09:15] <kirk__> so i admit im a newbie to this
[09:15] <kirk__> got a rar file, how do i extra it
[09:16] <flaccid> !rar
[09:16] <Ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:16] <kirk__> !info unrar-free
[09:16] <Jucato> !unrar
[09:16] <Ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:16] <Ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:16] <kirk__> !unrar
[09:17] <Jucato> hm... I'd stick with the unrar package for better compatibility... but they are basically the same
[09:17] <Jucato> two packages to extract RAR's: unrar and unrar-free
[09:17] <kirk__> i tried to download it through the adept manager
[09:17] <kirk__> didnt seem to work
[09:17] <flaccid> why is that
[09:18] <Jucato> !doesntwork
[09:18] <Ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:18] <kirk__> i installed but
[09:18] <kirk__> but dont know where to or how to use it
[09:18] <flaccid> unrar filename
[09:18] <flaccid> iirc
[09:18] <Jucato> which did you install?
[09:19] <Jucato> unrar x filename.rar
[09:19] <kirk__> unrar-free from, the adept manager
[09:19] <Jucato> kirk__: try the plain "unrar" then
[09:19] <Jucato> it might be a newer RAR version so unrar-free can't handle it
[09:20] <flaccid> with unrar-free, command is unrar-free -x filename
[09:20] <kirk__> command?
[09:20] <kirk__> im brand new to this, what happened to right click extra to?
[09:21] <kirk__> i got it with one from adept
[09:22] <flaccid> i don't think there is a gui for it kirk__ . run the command from konsole
[09:22] <Jucato> flaccid: gui for what?
[09:22] <Jucato> let him install unrar first :)
[09:22] <kirk__> got that jucato
[09:22] <kirk__> extracted it through the program
[09:22] <flaccid> for er unrar
[09:22] <Jucato> then he can right-click it from Konqueror through Ark
[09:22] <kirk__> now theres an .rpm file
[09:22] <kirk__> thats a new one
[09:22] <flaccid> can extract by right click
[09:23] <Jucato> kirk__: er.. what are you trying to do/install by the way?
[09:23] <kirk__> limewire
[09:23] <Jucato> !limewire
[09:23] <Ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:24] <flaccid> just install frostwire
[09:24] <kirk__> !java
[09:24] <Ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:24] <kirk__> !frostwire
[09:24] <Ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:27] <kirk__> this is pretty neat
[09:27] <pillowpants_> does anyone here use frostwire?
[09:27] <kirk__> a hell of a change, ive been on windows my entire life
[09:27] <pillowpants_> i hate limeware
[09:27] <pillowpants_> its like unsecure spyware infestation central
[09:27] <kirk__> im download frostwire right now
[09:28] <pillowpants_> tell me how it goes
[09:28] <kirk__> ive used it before on windows, it seemed exactly like limewire
[09:28] <flaccid> yeah frostwire is open source not commercial and there is no spyware on linux
[09:29] <pillowpants_> yeah
[09:29] <pillowpants_> has anyone here successfully gotten flash to work for firefox on an amd64 system?
[09:29] <Jucato> !flash64
[09:29] <Ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:30] <kirk__> !kubuntu
[09:30] <Ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[09:30] <kirk__> !ark
[09:30] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <jussi01> !info ark | kirk__
[09:31] <Ubotu> kirk__: ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 292 kB, installed size 1016 kB
[09:31] <kirk__> !info ark
[09:32] <kirk__> do u people like kubuntu better than windows?
[09:32] <pillowpants_> most definately
[09:33] <kirk__> im pretty lost right now, never been on any linux machine
[09:33] <pillowpants_> kirk__: once you have everything set up, its excellent
[09:33] <kirk__> i got stoned and switched earlier
[09:33] <kirk__> out of no where