[16:49] <Dravekx> what should the ownership:group be for directories for users who have web hosting in their home directories? www-data:www-data or user:user ????
[16:49] <magaio> Could someone give some casual advice on backing up an ecryptfs homefolder? The /home mount is on a separate hard drive. Should I backup the decrypted mount or the cryptfs folder? Also -- rdiff-backup?
[16:49] <wizzo50> help
[16:50] <olivier__> radeon 9200 se and 3d on hardy, someone knows ?
[16:51] <skizorager> wise_crypt: i tryed but doesn't work, command iwconfig return no wireless extention, ndiswrapper -l give me correct bcmwl5 driver installer
[16:51] <wizzo50> anyone smart with facebook
[16:52] <posey> ubtuntu 10.04 is awesome! thanks guys!
[16:52] <posey> just did a fresh install
[16:52] <poningru> wizzo50, what do you mean your box screen moves to the left?
[16:53] <Droopsta915> i know theres a learn to type trainer in the terminal, anyone know what its called?
[16:53] <greezmunkey> technikfreak: did you check out the screen shot?
[16:53] <Dravekx> posey... sometimes it is.
[16:54] <Dravekx> anyone good with permissions?
[16:54] <magaio> Droopsta915: tipptrainer? tuxtype?
[16:54] <frawfraw> does anyone know if theres an easy way to tell if a package has had an ABI break?
[16:55] <greezmunkey> technikfreak: It does both realtime, and cumulative...
[16:55] <RickZilla> Is there an app in the repo for extracting audio from flv files?
[16:55] <posey> Dravekx what issues have you had?
[16:55] <poningru> wizzo50, lets keep it in channel
[16:55] <poningru> wizzo50, can you make sure your updates are correct
[16:55] <frawfraw> RickZilla: probably gstreamer
[16:56] <VCoolio> RickZilla: probably vlc too
[16:56] <skizorager> hi all, i have an issue with an bcm4312 wifi card, someone can help me ?
[16:56] <sd32> !ask
[16:56] <RickZilla> frawfraw and VCoolio, thanks I'll check those out
[16:57] <asina12> hi...is there a command that can list all the apps that I have installed that is not part of the default configuration?
[16:57] <poningru> wizzo50, dude lets keep it in the channel
[16:57] <Droopsta915> magaio: no, I remember it was called something like typeit or some thing in those lines. It trains you on typing and you do it in the terminal
[16:57] <Dravekx> posey, I've given all my users web access so they can host web pages and not sure whether to put permissions at www-data:www-data or user:user?
[16:57] <skizorager> i cannot see my wifi card in network manager, it is a bcm4312 chipset
[16:57] <poningru> wizzo50, I dont have facebook or flash
[16:57] <poningru> wizzo50, I would recommend updating your flash through synaptic
[16:58] <poningru> wizzo50, instead of messaging me directly type it out in #ubuntu
[16:58] <Adnan_89> how can i copy xorg.conf in /etc/x11/ in sudo mode?
[16:59] <wign> you can do "sudo nautilus" and copy in graphic mode
[16:59] <posey> Dravekx no idea dude LOL
[16:59] <Dravekx> lol
[16:59] <VCoolio> RickZilla: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1101022
[16:59] <andrew__> Hey, so I'm looking for something to give me a list of all artists in my mp3 collection, delimited how I want, any suggestions?
[16:59] <andrew__> I'd prefer not to have to write scripts for this :p
[17:00] <Adnan_89> how can i copy xorg.conf in /etc/x11/ in sudo mode?
[17:00] <delac> Adnan_89: do you allready have a xorg.conf?
[17:00] <greezmunkey> wign: you shouldn't advise ppl sudo {any graphical program} use gksu nautilus instead.
[17:00] <xangua> !gksu > wing
[17:00] <Adnan_89> no i dont have
[17:01] <delac> Adnan_89: you need to create one then
[17:01] <Adnan_89> i came across to a link which said to create one
[17:01] <djbeenie> thought xorg.conf is no longer needed in ubuntu
[17:01] <delac> djbeenie: in this case it wil be needed
[17:01] <poningru> wizzo50, because someone else may have a similar problem and may get help because of us talking in channel
[17:01] <Adnan_89> downloaded from that link now need to paster in folder with root privileges
[17:01] <wizzo50> greezmunkey, help:  Anyone know why my box screen moves to the side on facebook when I load a game and then can't select anything from right side?
[17:01] <delac> Adnan_89: allthough i dont know how to do that...
[17:02] <alexbligh> How do I build a kernel with initrd? I believe I am following the instructions. "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-abcd kernel-image kernel-headers" builds one which dpkg -c shows to be without an initrd. I have copied /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/*/initramfs into /etc/kernel but no difference.
[17:02] <Adnan_89> you know how to create?
[17:02] <alexbligh> (sorry, on lucid)
[17:02] <xangua> wizzo50: sorry no facebook, try another browser maybe¿
[17:02] <Adnan_89> delac : u know how to create?
[17:03] <delac> Adnan_89: http://www.osguides.net/operation-systems/217-how-to-create-xorgconf-in-ubuntu-910.html
[17:03] <greezmunkey> wizzo50: sorry, sounds like maybe your browser. Try Chrome, or Chromium see if that helps.
[17:03] <greezmunkey> xangua: :) you beat me to it!
[17:03] <delac> Adnan_89: and then do the required changes to that file
[17:04] <Adnan_89> ok
[17:04] <delac> Adnan_89: you can edit the xorg.conf by: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:05] <greezmunkey> Adnan_89: make a backup copy of the file first!!
[17:05] <Adnan_89> which file?
[17:05] <Adnan_89> greezmunkey : which file?
[17:05] <lbc> xorg.conf, before you edit it
[17:06] <greezmunkey> xorg.conf!
[17:06] <sander-pc> Hey guys
[17:06] <sander-pc> How are you all.
[17:07] <delac> Adnan_89: so do what that links says, then do the: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:07] <Adnan_89> ok thanks all
[17:07] <Adnan_89> i am trying
[17:07] <disk1of5> hey all, dumb question.. if i install the 10.04 rc if i do updates after 10.04 is released will i technically be running 10.04 or will i have to re-install ?
[17:07] <delac> Adnan_89: good luck :)
[17:08] <sander-pc> I crashed my win7 by making a trojan that destroys and wont run the win7 i accsidently pressed it.. lol
[17:08] <VCoolio> disk1of5: just update, also #ubuntu+1
[17:08] <xangua> disk1of5: ye, no; for more lucid help try #ubuntu+1
[17:08] <Dravekx> ok, I was just told that my server is setup wrong. can someone help?
[17:08] <wizzo50> I found it. It was my zoom out
[17:08] <greezmunkey> wizzo50: so it was your browser?
[17:09] <wizzo50> yea
[17:09] <wizzo50> Firefox
[17:09] <greezmunkey> Dravekx: what server?
[17:09] <wizzo50> greezmunkey, Thks
[17:09] <wise_crypt> !help | Dravekx
[17:09] <frawfraw> do i need to log into ubuntu to access the pc via ssh?  or can I just plug the pc into the network and turn it on?
[17:09] <Dravekx> greezmunkey, ubuntu server with LAMP
[17:09] <Dravekx> 9.10
[17:10] <greezmunkey> Dravekx: what's is wrong with it?
[17:10] <frawfraw> i mean log in on the host...
[17:10] <anil> hi
[17:10] <anil> hi geena
[17:11] <wise_crypt> Dravekx: /j #ubuntu-server
[17:11] <Benwa> hi, does anybody know if is it possible to recover the partion table of a hfs+ raid5? with testdisk for example...
[17:11] <Dravekx> greezmunkey, I have my users setup so they can host websites from their home directories. So, I installed joomla in mine, but when joomla creates a file on the ubuntu server, ubuntu changes the permissions so I can't access the file. then I hafta login via SSH, change the permissions via root, and go back again.
[17:11] <sander-pc> Possible to ask illegal here?
[17:11] <sander-pc> Possible to ask illegal here?
[17:11] <xangua> sander-pc: no
[17:12] <sander-pc> okey
[17:12] <xangua> ...
[17:12] <sander-pc> im kinda mad cause i ruined my win7 by creating a virus and i pressed it :S
[17:12] <greezmunkey> Dravekx: best I can suggest is this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/step-by-step-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-lamp-server-setup.html
[17:13] <Dravekx> k
[17:13] <IdleOne> sander-pc: asking or discussing it is not acceptable
[17:13] <wise_crypt> Dravekx: /j #ubuntu-server
[17:13] <Dravekx> wise_crypt, yeah... I posted there.
[17:13] <Dravekx> thanks guys
[17:14] <Takhiarel> Long live Fedora.
[17:14] <IdleOne> Takhiarel: #fedora
[17:15] <sd32> !topic
[17:15] <bezao> so IdleOne basic i have to uncomment "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" and do "update-grub" and "shutdown -r -t 0 restart" and i'll have ubuntu opening on text mode?
[17:16] <IdleOne> bezao: I don't know. is that what the wiki says?
[17:16] <Spaceman> whats the difference between the desktop version and alternate?
[17:16] <maple1> come in mike hunt
[17:16] <bezao> IdleOne the wiki says that line should do that, i have uncommented it, and make the update-grub and i restart, but i got the ubuntu screen login again :(
[17:17] <IdleOne> !alternate > Spaceman
[17:17] <nestea> alrght guys, this really probably isn't the place to ask but no one else seems to know: I'm trying to create a ssh tunnel to my linux box's router but I cant seem to get it to work. I've used three guides with no luck.
[17:17] <Spaceman> thanks
[17:18] <nestea> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-tunnel-traffic-with-ssh/ http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html and http://www.ehow.com/how_2036605_create-ssh-putty.html
[17:18] <nestea> any ideas?=\
[17:19] <greezmunkey> nestea: type this in a terminal: ps -aef | grep sshd - what do you get back?
[17:20] <nestea> ially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:20] <nestea> 11:12.12 #ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com
[17:20] <BluesKaj> nestea, why to the linux box's router?
[17:20] <nestea> 11:12.24 ·· quit: dharyp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Quit: Leaving)
[17:20] <nestea> 11:12.25 (IdleOne) !alternate > Spaceman
[17:20] <FloodBot2> nestea: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <nestea> ially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:20] <nestea> 11:12.25 (ubottu) Spaceman, please see my private message
[17:20] <Vigo> bezao: It is usually Esc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:21] <greezmunkey> nestea: you shoud see something like this: root 1025 1  0 08:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[17:21] <dn5> i prefer more slitaz, then ubuntu
[17:21] <bezao> Vigo but that way i need to esc everytime? i want to make it forever
[17:22] <Droopsta915> I found it, lol. gtypist is a good typing program.
[17:22]  * nestea sighs
[17:22] <magicianlord> It's cool that RC 10.04 is out
[17:23] <magicianlord> What are Canonical's business intentions for Ubuntu?
[17:23] <greezmunkey> nestea: you shoud see something like this: root 1025 1  0 08:11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[17:23] <felon> whats good encoding software for ubuntu ... ex: avi, mp4 bla bla
[17:23] <nestea> yeah
[17:23] <IdleOne> magicianlord: see www.ubuntu.com
[17:23] <nestea> root 4850 1 0 Apr08 ? 00:00:01 /usr/sbin/sshd
[17:23] <nestea> few othersw
[17:23] <BluesKaj> nestea, i repeat, why to the linux box's router?
[17:23] <dn5> what is linux without internet? the CPU without cooler :D
[17:23] <greezmunkey> nestea: next from a terminal on your ubox: ssh localhost
[17:23] <magicianlord> dn5: tru
[17:23] <nestea> cause there is something i need to add and its on the otherside of the city
[17:24] <nestea> i figured instead of wasting gas for something like that
[17:24] <Zider> dn5: umm, no less than any other os without internet
[17:24] <nestea> i could try to tunnel
[17:24] <greezmunkey> nestea: ! oops!
[17:25] <jfb_h2o> is it okay a set-selections file from dpkg on a 9.10 machine after installing 10.04?
[17:25] <guntbert> !ot | dn5 , magicianlord
[17:26] <bezao> what 'grub-pc only' means?
[17:27] <dasen> has anyone been able to play eve online with wine?
[17:27] <IdleOne> !wine > dasen
[17:27] <magicianlord> thanks, ubottu
[17:27] <sweb> ubuntu have `ia64` version for intel 64 architecture ?
[17:28] <sweb> not amd64 ?
[17:28] <Down1ja> just installed 9.10/10.04...ati graphics screen ratio is way too wide.  trying to shrink the size of appearance of the desktop but cannot figure out how.  any help?
[17:29] <sd32> how do you get ubuntu to use dual monitors?
[17:29] <greezmunkey> sweb: you can find it here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/karmic/release/
[17:29] <erUSUL> sd32: graphic card ?
[17:30] <Lcawte> How easy is it to make a remote desktop server on 'buntu
[17:30] <sd32> erUSUL, not sure, let me check
[17:30] <xender> salut
[17:31] <erUSUL> !fr
[17:31] <sweb> greezmunkey, there is just cd ... dvd ver ?
[17:31] <greezmunkey> Lcawte: what is it that you need to do?
[17:31] <xender> ok thx
[17:31] <greezmunkey> sweb: it's an iso, you'll have to md5sum it and burn it.
[17:31] <Down1ja> some of you were disconnected i will ask again....
[17:32] <Lcawte> greezmunkey: basicly, get my comptuter so I can leave it on during the day when I'm out, then use say, Window's Remote Desktop program to connect to it..
[17:32] <xender> :list
[17:32] <xender> !list
[17:33] <xender> salut
[17:33] <Down1ja> I just installed 9.10 and the screen ratio for my desktop is huge and goes off the screen not seeing applications, super key in top right.   how can I shrink the ratio of my screen?
[17:33] <ronnie_vd_c> my wireless manager ask each time for the wireless key when i login with my Yubikey. When i login with my normal password i can connect without password. I think the keyring is not unlocked with the Yubikey. I need to know which package is responsible for this bug, so i can report it at launchpad. Im using 10.04 btw, didn't test it on 9.10
[17:33] <Thell> Is there an official comparison matrix for Ubuntu vs Ubuntu Server?
[17:33] <delac> Down1ja: are you using the restricted driver or open?
[17:33] <greezmunkey> Lcawte: you will have better luck using vnc
[17:33]  * Lcawte googles
[17:34] <chalcedony> can a keyboard cause my computer to run slower, how can i tell how 'slow' it is? (it woke up really slowly, i killed opera, but it's still not right) the only change i made was because the cat got milk into my ibm model m keyboard last night and i found another one in storage.
[17:34] <Down1ja> i tried using both cannot get the propietary one to work
[17:34] <chalcedony> i'm running ubuntu 9.04
[17:34] <delac> Down1ja: oh, what card?
[17:34] <sd32> erUSUL,Intel GMA 4500 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 5.0, its in a dell optiplex 760
[17:34] <Down1ja> hd radeon 4600 series
[17:34] <Down1ja> ati
[17:35] <magicianlord> does anyone know how to make wired and wireless interfaces load in the proper order so that wicd works and detects networks alls the time, instead of randomly workign and having to be rebooted
[17:35] <erUSUL> sd32: system>preferences>display does not give you the options to clone or enlarge your display; i.e. does not detect the two monitors ?
[17:35] <guntbert> ronnie_vd_c: thats no bug - at least nothing going to be "fixed" soon --- you either have to provide the password to gnome-keyring every time or (not recommended) to set the password of gnome-keyring as empty
[17:35] <delac> Down1ja: i have 4670 and its working well
[17:35] <delac> Down1ja: allthough i'm still on jaunty... :)
[17:36] <greezmunkey> magicianlord: wicd is buggy that way, why not use network manager?
[17:36] <ronnie_vd_c> guntbert, i expected indeed to get the gnome keyring unlock screen. But it asks for the wireless key itself. Looks strange behavior to me
[17:36] <Down1ja> what drivers have you used to get it working well?  I have found one in the past but i am reinstalling all new packages
[17:36] <magicianlord> is there a point to getting a high end graphic card on linux? the drivers dont work properly and game support is very ilmited
[17:36] <trijntje> If I want maximum compression, should I use .7z, .tar.7z or something else?
[17:36] <sd32> erUSUL, no, it doesnt detect the two monitors
[17:36] <magicianlord> greezmunkey: i could, but i like the interface more and its quicker
[17:37] <erUSUL> sd32: is a laptop? maybe you have to press some key combo to enable the external ouput ?
[17:37] <delac> Down1ja: i'm using the restricted drivers from Hardware Drivers
[17:37] <magicianlord> erUSUL: yes, the functino key and another
[17:37] <Down1ja> magicianlord  try using virtualbox and running windows through it
[17:37] <smith> i am get major lagg
[17:37] <delac> Down1ja: they worked nicely out of box
[17:38] <smith> like 13-30s
[17:38] <Down1ja> and that was with Jaunty?
[17:38] <delac> Down1ja: yes
[17:38] <smith> i resets after 30s
[17:38] <guntbert> ronnie_vd_c: thats strange indeed -- I can confirm that on karmic the wireless auth completely runs through gnome-keyring - so you might want to talk about it in #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <smith> wifi sux
[17:39] <sd32> erUSUL, tower system, the dual displays work in win 7 professional, just not seen by ubuntu oh well no biggie, work system anyway
[17:39] <magicianlord> ok Down
[17:39] <sartan> hello -- a few months ago I swapped my speakers with changing /etc/pulse/defaults.pa -- I (silly me) didn't make a backup of this file.  How can I restore it to whatever the package that provided the audio subsystem used in the first place?
[17:39] <lalalol> any SVG-pro here?
[17:39] <Down1ja> I am looking for one thing in particular.  i have to do apt-gfconfig or something like that and it installs the exact thing I need
[17:39] <ronnie_vd_c> guntbert: ill ask it there. thx
[17:40] <Down1ja> for an ati card
[17:40] <smith> man my lagg is awful
[17:40] <smith> 22.6s lagg
[17:40] <delac> Down1ja: and i have tested lucid live-cd once. there were no restricted drivers back then available, but radeon drivers worked out of box with 3d enabled
[17:40] <greezmunkey> smith: locate a server close to you and reconnect.
[17:41] <smith> ok how about middle east region
[17:41] <smith> english speaking
[17:41] <Down1ja> lucid is9.04?
[17:41] <magicianlord> its 10.04
[17:41] <delac> Down1ja: 10.4
[17:41] <smith> is their a list of severs by region?
[17:41] <wise_crypt> sartan: lsb_release -a
[17:41] <gccster> guys has anybody ever tried to configure postfix+courier+squirelmail with multiple domains?
[17:41] <fox-m> hi all
[17:42] <sartan> wise_crypt, i'm running 9.10 karmic.
[17:42] <smith> there*
[17:42] <greezmunkey> smith: you can google for that, look for freenode servers
[17:42] <Vigo> sartan: Have you tried a restore?
[17:42] <greezmunkey> smith: a lot of universities run them.
[17:42] <Vigo> sartan: Or what wise_crypt stated...
[17:42] <smith> hmm..
[17:43] <wise_crypt> sombody with 9.10 please pastebin your /etc/pulse/defaults.pa so sartan can copy it
[17:43] <smith> lol i was trying to look at hubble pictures
[17:43] <Down1ja> anyone want my kids?
[17:43] <sartan> Thank you for asking on my behalf :)
[17:43] <smith> the bandwith is hating that
[17:43] <fox-m> can somebody tell why it shows black screen with text before showing splash on restart...is there a way to get rid of???
[17:43] <Down1ja> driving me CRAZY
[17:43] <wise_crypt> somebody* with 9.10 please pastebin your /etc/pulse/defaults.pa so sartan can copy it
[17:44] <lalalol> what is an ubuntu update procedure like? i mean from 9.10 to 10.04
[17:44] <smith> lol
[17:44] <guntbert> !upgrade | lalalol
[17:44] <lalalol> thx guntbert
[17:44] <smith> no linux in asia
[17:44] <guntbert> !lol | smith
[17:44] <un214> How do I convince X to listen on TCP/IP again?
[17:44] <guntbert> lalalol: :)
[17:44] <Down1ja> delac: which file have you used to install your OS? in particular which .iso ...?
[17:45] <bezao> i give up :(
[17:45] <delac> Down1ja: i'm using 32bit ubuntu desktop
[17:45] <Down1ja> 9.10?
[17:45] <magicianlord> What order should i specify to load netwrok interfaces in rc.conf in order for my wifi to always load in wicd? out of these: lo, eth0 (wired), and eth1 (wifi)
[17:45] <delac> Down1ja: 9.4
[17:46] <delac> Down1ja: jaunty
[17:46] <Down1ja> cool.
[17:46] <Down1ja> thanks a bunch
[17:47] <lalalol> WOW! i basically have to click upgrade and it'll install 10.04, awesome
[17:47] <lalalol> what will happen to my wallpapers for example?
[17:47] <lalalol> will the new ones just get added with the ones i already have?
[17:48] <wise_crypt> !lucid | lalalol
[17:48] <lalalol> thx wise_crypt
[17:48] <greezmunkey> sartan: look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/421768/
[17:49] <sartan> thanks so much greezmunkey I really appreciate this
[17:49] <greezmunkey> sartan: never used it, so it should be default - no guarantees though!
[17:49] <tic^> wise_crypt: /etc/pulse/defaults.pa --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/421767/
[17:49] <DefaultTo0> Hi there
[17:49] <DefaultTo0> Is this the right place to ask about issues with 10.04?
[17:50] <erUSUL> !lucid | DefaultTo0
[17:50] <djzhan> Hello Everyone
[17:50] <DefaultTo0> Thanks
[17:50] <crucialhoax> Hello
[17:50] <greezmunkey> wise_crypt: mine was called default.pa (9.10) it should be the same I would guess
[17:51] <wise_crypt> tic^: thanks greezmunkey: thanks; sartan: your choise
[17:51] <djzhan> When I install grub into U disk, I meet a problem.
[17:51] <sartan> they look like the same file
[17:51] <greezmunkey> sartan: cool, I have no sound on this system, so it should be rick stock
[17:51] <greezmunkey> s/rick/rock
[17:52] <sartan> yup :) I must have changed more than just this... I've got some homework to do! :D
[17:52] <jfb_h2o> after a fresh install of 10.04 can I use a file from dpkg --set-selections > installed  to install everything? The old system was 9.10
[17:52] <IdleOne> jfb_h2o: yes
[17:53] <IdleOne> jfb_h2o: that file list the package names not versions, so dpkg will look for the the names and download the file from the repos in sources.list
[17:53] <un214> anybody else have a system rather hosed by do-release-upgrade?
[17:53] <jfb_h2o> IdleOne, ah. perfect! Thanks... and I also heard I should run --clear-selections first? Or better not to?
[17:54] <IdleOne> jfb_h2o: I don't know about that.
[17:54] <jfb_h2o> IdleOne, maybe there's some 10.04 stuff that's default I'd want to keep...
[17:54] <IdleOne> jfb_h2o: ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:54] <wise_crypt> !lucid | jfb_h2o
[17:54] <Seahorse> i just downloaded ubuntu with wubi and i am getting some weird errors
[17:54] <azerty> hi there
[17:55] <Seahorse> it said something about some disk failing
[17:55] <raven_> rsync - smb:// as source not possible - solution?
[17:55] <azerty> i can't to sudo user on my pc it says xuser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[17:55] <archer_> i'm having trouble finding a driver, or don't know if it exists for ubuntu
[17:55] <wise_crypt> !sudo | azerty
[17:55] <Seahorse> and if i try to download anything with the software center, it says it is not available
[17:56] <un214> as if that's going to help azerty
[17:57] <greezmunkey> azerty: now you're in trouble - your computer is going to rat you out ;)
[17:57] <un214> azerty, is this your only user?
[17:58] <azerty> exact
[17:58] <azerty> un214:
[17:58] <Seahorse> i just downloaded ubuntu with wubi and i am getting some weird errors. it said something about some disk failing. Also, if i try to download anything with the software center, it says it is not available
[17:58] <azerty> i can't understand where is the problem ?
[17:59] <wise_crypt> azerty: please answer un214 question its important
[17:59] <azerty> what ? greezmunkey  ?
[17:59] <azerty> what was his question ?
[17:59] <CommunistYoshi> Seahorse>	i just downloaded ubuntu with wubi and i am getting some weird errors. it said something about some disk failing. Also, if i try to download anything with the software center, it says it is not available
[17:59] <azerty> as i said before i just create one user yes
[17:59] <wise_crypt> azerty, is this your only user?
[17:59] <azerty> yes one user yes
[18:00] <un214> 1. reboot into recovery mode, root shell, start networking (usually dhclient eth0), apt-get install irc, irc -s irc.freenode.net -u azerty
[18:00] <greezmunkey> azerty: You can check in System/Administration/Users and Groups - is your user in the admin group?
[18:01] <greezmunkey> azerty: That is if it will accept your password...
[18:01] <bryanr> This may seem unbelievable but deep down beneath the earth's crust there are wars between people and ancient species. we use ubuntu to plan our strategic suicide bombings. I once was a kamikaze ninja. My missions are well documented on the ubuntu computers underground. Typically I was ordered to penetrate defenses with my awesome powers and then self-destruct at the core of the enemy base.
[18:01] <un214> it won't
[18:01] <CommunistYoshi> excuse me, someone here needs help
[18:01] <CommunistYoshi> and it's not me
[18:01] <bryanr> my hands still shake..
[18:02] <bryanr> you have no idea what it like to kill yourself and rely on your soul to be recaptured in the proper net during re-incarnation
[18:02] <sartan> wise_crypt greezmunkey vivid tic^ -- Thanks everyone; what I ended up doign was downloading the pulseaudio dpkg from an ubuntu mirror and open it up with an archive manager, extract the relevant config files to /tmp, and replace them.  Everything is perfect now
[18:02] <CommunistYoshi> My friend Seahorse needs help
[18:02] <bryanr> but thanks to ubuntu i still live
[18:02] <sartan> i must have changed more than just default.pa so while your pastebins were correct, the rest of my system was not :)
[18:02] <guntbert> !ot | bryanr
[18:02] <azerty> if i do visudo
[18:02] <azerty> i got this
[18:02] <azerty> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[18:02] <greezmunkey> sartan: excellent, you used your intuition!
[18:03] <un214> of course you would
[18:03] <d4rkn3ss> hi @ all, i have a problem with my flash, can anybody help me?
[18:03] <azerty> i don't know what to do ?
[18:03] <wise_crypt> azerty: please read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[18:03] <LjL> azerty: tried "sudo visudo"? also, why are you trying to edit sudoers?
[18:03] <azerty> my ubuntu pc is an hosted one
[18:03] <Nefarious> oy, is it possible to have a multi-monitor setup, but instead of just extending the screen, you have one monitor with the first workspace and the second one with the second workspace?
[18:03] <un214> because he locked himself out
[18:04] <sartan> To be honest; my professional experience sits with rpm and such, and I'm still not completely familiar with the debian way of doing things. with redhat I'd do the same thing, but I'd end up using yum
[18:04] <azerty> i can't only access via terminal
[18:04] <sartan> Anyway that's just my ego speaking :)
[18:04] <un214> understood
[18:04] <Nefarious> *ahem*
[18:04] <guntbert> !who | un214
[18:04] <LjL> azerty: oh in that case you may want to reboot with the option "init=/bin/sh" (or recovery mode, but i'm not familiar with that) and run visudo from there.
[18:04] <un214> LjL: he can't
[18:04] <sartan> I'm afraid It's a bit too spammy for me to idle here; cheers and thanks for the help
[18:04] <Dragzard> When I try to syc my Tomboy notes with Ubuntu One, it fails.  Can I have some help with this or this the wrong place for that question.
[18:05] <wise_crypt> azerty: please read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[18:05] <d4rkn3ss> @ all: can anyone help me with adobe flash in firefox? i try to set up the flashplayer from labs.adobe.com
[18:05] <un214> azerty: you're going to have to call your hosting provider for hands and eyes support
[18:05] <Dragzard> Try use Ubuntu Tweak and download it from that list.
[18:05] <greezmunkey> azerty: if it is hosted, then your system administrator may have revoked your sudo priviledge.
[18:06] <azerty> ok thank u
[18:06] <d4rkn3ss> dragzard, did u answer to me?
[18:06] <azerty> no i m sure i have full access on it
[18:06] <perlsyntax> has anyone got a Option Wireless ICON 322 to work on 9.10?
[18:06] <un214> azerty: going to have to call your hosting provider and get them to fix this. this requries console access
[18:06] <azerty> ok thanks un214
[18:06] <Nefarious> oy
[18:06] <Nefarious> oy, is it possible to have a multi-monitor setup, but instead of just extending the screen, you have one monitor with the first workspace and the second one with the second workspace?
[18:07] <un214> I'd recommend setting up so you can ssh in as root with a private key (not password)
[18:07] <kop> karmic I want to associate sounds w/ desktop events ie; window min/max and file operation start/stop . any easy way to do this ?
[18:09] <peturi> Hi, please help! My load average has gone up over 16, "top" does not show anything eating up the cpu... this happens occationally and the only fix i know of is to reboot my machine. Any ideas????
[18:09] <ombra> anyone have this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/270798
[18:09] <CommunistYoshi> peturi: it's likely a process running under root
[18:10] <peturi> CommunistYoshi: I ran top as root
[18:10] <kop> top will not show kernel processes
[18:10] <CommunistYoshi> huh
[18:10] <Nefarious> why does it lock up when i tell it to turn on my other monitor?  (rght after "change the virtual resolution" dialog.)
[18:10] <peturi> Ohh, it's gone now down to 0.87 .. i hate this :S
[18:10] <melm> uxac
[18:11] <un214> never: sudo nice --19 sh -c 'while : ; do ; : ; done'
[18:11] <Seahorse> hi. i just downloaded ubuntu with wubi and i am getting some weird errors. it said something about some disk failing. Also, if i try to download anything with the software center, it says it is not available. Any idea what the problem may be? I also have windows 7 on this computer.
[18:11] <un214> hope you have two cpus
[18:12] <IdleOne> un214: what does that command do?
[18:12] <un214> burn cpu at maximum priority
[18:12] <IdleOne> un214: so it is dangerous? why bother posting it here
[18:12] <andril> hello all
[18:13] <macman_>  can you recover a deleted item in nautilus ? i put it to the trash and empied it
[18:13] <frawfraw> is there anything better than an SONAME to use to check binary compatibility between packages?
[18:13] <peturi> IdleOne: That command can be used to stresstest cpu cores...
[18:13] <Nefarious> IdleOne: Well, "burn" and "cpu" don't sound like two words that mix
[18:13] <Nefarious> so i would assume so
[18:13] <un214> nacman_: well you could run strings on /dev/sda1
[18:13] <trevor> my volume control applet is gone from the menu and my bar, what is the command to start it via console
[18:13] <Random832> frawfraw: no - you're generally supposed to expect that the person who set up the SONAME did their job
[18:13] <macman_> un214: ?
[18:14] <un214> macamn_ the file is gone after being removed from the trash, but if it was human readable strings will get it back as the blocks themselves weren't actually erased
[18:14] <Random832> when making a modification to a library it's generally not hard to predict whether it would cause a break in binary compatibility (at least in C)
[18:14] <frawfraw> Random832: if I know the knew package and the old package, is there an easy way to test the two for binary compatibility?
[18:14] <macman_> un214: have you done this before ?
[18:15] <macman_> un214: just wondering
[18:15] <un214> macman_ yes, on a 20mb disk
[18:15] <macman_> heh
[18:15] <Random832> frawfraw: if you have the source code you could examine all the diffs
[18:15] <frawfraw> Random832:  yeek...  that would be hard to script...
[18:15] <Random832> failing that, examine diffs of all the headers
[18:16] <Thell> Is there an comparison matrix for releases? ie - desktop vs server vs jeOS etc... ?
[18:16] <Random832> well the point is it's a call that has to be made by a human
[18:16] <un214> diffs of the headers should do it
[18:16] <macman_> un214: strings /dev/sda6 |grep Filename ?
[18:16] <Random832> un214: unless there's linker scripts involved
[18:16] <un214> macman_ that won't work you have to pipe it through less and find your file by its contents
[18:16] <un214> it may not all be in one place on the disk either
[18:17] <frawfraw> Random832: but essentially, if I have a program that links against the old package, then I should theoretically notice an abi break if the link to the new package fails?
[18:17] <Random832> un214: what problem is macman_ trying to solve?
[18:17] <macman_> strings /dev/sda5 |less |grep The_Back-
[18:17] <lalalol> can brasero burn the 10.04 iso?
[18:17] <un214> random832: he deleted a file and wants it back
[18:17] <greezmunkey> macman_: there is also etx3grep out there that my be able to help.
[18:17] <IdleOne> lalalol: yes, Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:17] <macman_> i deleted a movie and need the source back
[18:17] <greezmunkey> macman_: ext3grep, sorry
[18:17] <wise_crypt> trevor: kmix i assume you use kde
[18:18] <Random832> frawfraw: that depends on what kind of break it is - a link fail will only happen if they've removed symbols - not if they've changed the semantics of undocumented functions used from macros, or if they've changed the arguments of some function
[18:18] <Random832> un214: ok - first step is of course to STOP USING the filesystem it was on
[18:18] <macman_> greezmunkey: and you have tried this right ?
[18:18] <Nefarious> i would assume that you might be able to use forensics programs to regain trace amounts of the file from it's magnetic residue...
[18:18] <trevor> wise_crypt, i use gnome, it is the panel applet, it has disappeared from the panel and the add to panel menu
[18:19] <Random832> macman_: did you stop using the filesystem?
[18:19] <frawfraw> Random832:  for what Im doing, im more interested in whether or not my program will fail to load when theres an abi break...  not if someone has changed the semantic meaning of an API
[18:19] <lalalol> thx IdleOne
[18:19] <frawfraw> Random832: does that make it easier?
[18:19] <un214> it will fail to load only if a symbol was removed
[18:19] <Random832> there is an e2undel program - or debugfs - it helps to know the exact filename (or the directory the file was in)
[18:20] <Random832> knowing the inode number is even better
[18:20] <Random832> frawfraw: what are you doing exactly?
[18:20] <macman_> Random832: what do you mean stop using filesystem
[18:20] <Nefarious> well, unless you emptied out your recycle bin (by default, on your lower panel) you might be able to just retrieve it from there
[18:20] <Random832> and the point is, if they've changed the args a function takes, then it'll in all likelyhood crash the first time you call the function
[18:20] <Random832> macman_: as in unmount it or mount it as readonly
[18:20] <macman_> no
[18:20] <Random832> reboot from the livecd if you have to
[18:20] <macman_> i would have to reboot with a live disc Random832
[18:21] <macman_> yea
[18:21] <macman_> ok i will brb
[18:21] <Random832> then do that - every second anything can write to the filesystem is another chance your deleted file may be overwritten
[18:21] <ccherrett> I booted the first time with my nextwork cable installed and I get a connection. I then booted without it and then with it again and ubuntu has lost eth0
[18:21] <Nefarious> eh, what's the problem anyway?
[18:21] <ccherrett> any ideas?
[18:22] <frawfraw> Random832:  Im a project manager in a big project... and our integrators have a big problem with knowing what is going on in this system... so I was trying to work on a "cheat sheet" that more or less emulates "apt-cache dotty" but then highlights links where there are ABI breakages
[18:22] <greezmunkey> macman_: No, I only delete files I have no use for. Is your HDD formatted ext3 or ext4?
[18:22] <wise_crypt> !restore-panel
[18:23] <greezmunkey> ccherrett: is it still in this state?
[18:23] <Nefarious> sorry, what's an abi breakage?
[18:23] <Random832> frawfraw: well, you could simply look at all symbols exported from the library, and see if there were any in the old version missing from the new version
[18:24] <Random832> that wouldn't tell you if they've changed the arguments a function takes, or changed between a function and a variable, or changed the type of a variable
[18:24] <frawfraw> Random832:  that sounds pretty easy...  how can I look at the symbols?
[18:24] <Random832> frawfraw: objdump -T
[18:25] <frawfraw> Random832: then if I diff the two shared objects, there should be no differences?
[18:25] <wise_crypt> trevor: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-howto-recover-gnome-panel.html
[18:25] <Random832> no, because the printout includes things that are okay to have changes too
[18:25] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: yes
[18:25] <Random832> you want ot make sure all names from the old version are present in the new version
[18:26] <greezmunkey> ccherrett: in a terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:26] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: no such device when trying ifup etho
[18:26] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: I did that
[18:26] <frawfraw> Random832: sounds like scripting would be pretty difficult that way :/
[18:26] <Random832> and if any of the _sizes_ are different then that's somewhere you may want to look further by examining the source
[18:26] <greezmunkey> ccherrett: ok, are you using network manager?
[18:26] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: no
[18:26] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: well possibly
[18:27] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: I am a gentoo guy lost in gui land right now :)
[18:27] <greezmunkey> ccherrett: heh, what does ifconfig show you, no eth0 there?
[18:27] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: it is not there
[18:28] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: it does not show with ifconfig -a
[18:28] <greezmunkey> ccherrett: wow. All you did was disconnect then reconnect an ethernet cable?
[18:28] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: yeah
[18:28] <un214> bad driver?
[18:28] <ccherrett> greezmunkey: well used the laptop without the connection
[18:28] <un214> or maybe you loosened the card
[18:30] <greezmunkey> ccherrett: you could try: sudo modprobe forcedeth0 - see what happens
[18:31] <greezmunkey> ccherrett: sounds like the kernel module may have unloaded
[18:31] <nsadmin> it's probably forcedeth
[18:31] <greezmunkey> nsadmin: I think that is correct, see that ccherrett ?
[18:31] <ccherrett> yeah just rebooting
[18:32] <nsadmin> rebooting??
[18:32] <ccherrett> nsadmin: yeah that is what I do when I can't see anything but gui :)
[18:32] <greezmunkey> nsadmin: I havent used eth0 on the box for a long time, was using wireless. I have a wireless/eth converter in my garage lab now.
[18:32] <nsadmin> so you moved your mouse, and it said "for your OS to understand this change you must reboot"
[18:33] <ccherrett> nsadmin: yeah crazy thing
[18:35] <greezmunkey> lo
[18:35] <magicianlord> when is ubuntu coming out
[18:35] <nsadmin> it's out now!
[18:35] <AlienDK> yes
[18:35] <AlienDK> it has been for many years
[18:35] <exigraff> heh
[18:35] <AlienDK> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS will be out in 5 days
[18:35] <nsadmin> there's lotsa ubuntu cds and everything!
[18:36] <AlienDK> so what nsadmin?
[18:36] <greezmunkey> I had to double check...yes, it is Ubuntu - whew!
[18:36] <greezmunkey> later ppl
[18:37] <magicianlord> ok
[18:37] <magicianlord> i just wanted to know when its out
[18:37] <magicianlord> so i can dl it in 5 minutes over my fiberoptic connection
[18:39] <nsadmin> if you dl it then, you'll be competing with a lot of others who will want it... what you can do if you want is upgrade to it now or anytime before it's released
[18:39] <nsadmin> then upgrade what little is the difference when it is released
[18:39] <Exposure326> evening
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> or use torrents :)
[18:39] <IdleOne> nsadmin: or use torrent :)
[18:39]  * IdleOne hugs Dr_Willis
[18:39]  * Dr_Willis giggles like a schoolgirl
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu torrents are the only time my internet connecetion seems to get maxxed out :)
[18:41]  * rocket16 is happy to see IdleOne hugging Dr_Willis
[18:41] <tanthana> hi everyone
[18:41] <IdleOne> !hi
[18:42] <PeterDrop> hi all
[18:42] <PeterDrop> erUSUL sr, are u there?
[18:43] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:43] <magicianlord> wutup money
[18:44] <tanthana> I am in trouble with the proxy settings, it doesn't work when I want to update
[18:44] <nsadmin> when you say "it doesn't work" exactly what do you mean? what does it do or not do?
[18:45] <Adnan_89> delac : are you there?
[18:45] <delac> Adnan_89: yeps
[18:45] <tanthana> update manager doesn't work
[18:45] <nsadmin> what are the exact texts of messages you get
[18:45] <Adnan_89> hii buddy
[18:45] <delac> Adnan_89: you have that xorg.conf now?
[18:45] <Adnan_89> i just wanted to say you thanks a lot
[18:46] <delac> Adnan_89: i gues it worked?
[18:46] <smine[0ff]> md
[18:46] <tanthana> hmm... I don't remember right now actually :(
[18:46] <AnxiousNut> i was working on inkscape and suddenly the pc turned off, is there a way to retrieve my work, i didnt save it, please help
[18:46] <tanthana> I mean the message
[18:46] <Adnan_89> delac : after so many days of searching i finally today got screen resolution 1280x800
[18:47] <edthix> anyone can help me with Kernel-panic ? not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0, 0) on Karmic?
[18:47] <Adnan_89> thanks dude...
[18:47] <PeterDrop> my sound is not working, no alert or notifications seem be good, but no sound, any ideas?
[18:47] <Adnan_89> the link u gave worked ....
[18:47] <delac> Adnan_89: good to hear it finally works :)
[18:47] <nsadmin> can you get it to give you a message again? are there logs the proxy makes that have interesting info when you try to connect?
[18:48] <Adnan_89> is it your this permanent nick?
[18:48] <nsadmin> do you control the proxy itself?
[18:48] <daiver> Good day!
[18:48] <Adnan_89> delac : is this ur permanent nick ?
[18:49] <delac> Adnan_89: well i use it usually. but havent registered it
[18:49] <daiver> My Code::Blocks has disbled debugger - options start, stop, etc are disabled - any ides why?
[18:49] <Adnan_89> ok... i added u in my list....
[18:49] <Adnan_89> delac : get 1 permanent bro...
[18:50] <tanthana> yes the proxy works well, I can connect to the net but I can not download any plugins or updates
[18:50] <delac> Adnan_89: yes, maybe i should
[18:50] <nsadmin> can you get it to feed you the message again?
[18:50] <tanthana> I am going to try to get the messages again and tell you ok
[18:50] <Quietstorm> hello everyone
[18:51] <tanthana> just in a few seconds
[18:52] <nsadmin> do you control the proxy? can you watch its logs while you try things?
[18:55] <znh> Hello. I have a question regarding netbook remix. Is this the right place or is there a better one?
[18:55] <JabberWalkie> can ubuntu use ext4?
[18:55] <IdleOne> znh: ask
[18:55] <IdleOne> JabberWalkie: yes
[18:55] <nsadmin> if the kernel can
[18:55] <JabberWalkie> nsadmin: oh yeah, I guess :)
[18:56] <znh> well I'd like to have a launcher at the favorites location which starts firefox with a specified URL.. how would one do that?
[18:56] <nsadmin> filesystems and devices are generally supported by the kernel...
[18:56] <JabberWalkie> ext3 is still the default though?
[18:56] <nsadmin> default where?
[18:56] <wise_crypt> !webgui > wise_crypt
[18:57] <IdleOne> JabberWalkie: 9.10 defaults to ext4 I believe
[18:57] <JabberWalkie> k
[18:57] <dcmeese> znh: #firefox may have your answer
[18:57] <znh> well no. if I just now how to create a launcher. It's not specific for Firefox
[18:58] <tanthana> nsadmin: it says, an error occured
[18:58] <nsadmin> wndrfl...
[18:58] <tanthana> failed to fetch http://gb.archive....blah blah
[18:58] <tanthana> couldn't connect to proxy.pau.edu.tr:3128 connection timed out
[18:58] <nsadmin> so you can browse web pages?
[18:58] <tanthana> that's all
[18:58] <Adnan_89> can anybody tell me how can i activate "Extra effect" option under "Appearance Preference"
[18:59] <tanthana> yes I can browse
[18:59] <znh> !channels
[18:59] <littlebear> tanthana: just go to littlebearz.com/proxy/ and use mine :P
[18:59] <Adnan_89> can anybody tell me how can i activate "Extra effect" option under "Appearance Preference"
[18:59] <nsadmin> is proxy.pau.edu.tr your machine?
[19:00] <random_> i keep getting "/bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" when i try to execute a shell script on a new ubuntu 9.10 install, any ideas why/
[19:00] <Adnan_89> can anybody tell me how can i activate "Extra effect" option under "Appearance Preference" in ubuntu 9.10
[19:00] <dcmeese> znh: The fact you'd be opening a specific URL sounds like it might be firefox specific. You might try asking them.
[19:00] <overmind> Adnan_89: install "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[19:01] <Adnan_89> overmind : yesi have that
[19:01] <guntbert> random_: you probably edited the script on a windows machine?
[19:01] <overmind> Adnan_89: Then enable efects clicking on them
[19:02] <PeterDrop> overmind and then how u "call" the efect?
[19:02] <random_> guntbert, i didn't edit any of the scripts,
[19:02] <guntbert> random_: where do the scripts come from?
[19:02] <random_> guntbert, i open them in gedit, and see nothing wrong, id otn see the "^M" on the error
[19:02] <nsadmin> tanthana, talk to the proxy admin and find out why the proxy can't contact the site you want
[19:03] <overmind> PeterDrop: There are few tabs in efect's "windows", you can see there shortcuts
[19:03] <Random832> random_: open it in vim, :set ff=unix
[19:03] <Random832> and save
[19:03] <random_> Random832, will try
[19:04] <nsadmin> meanwhile try a different mirror
[19:04] <delac> Adnan_89: sorry to tell you, but your card propably dont support 3d effects: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/44627
[19:05] <aatifh> I have just upgraded my machine from ubuntu 9.10 to ubuntu 10.4
[19:05] <PeterDrop> overmind in Efects there only checkboxes, no shortcuts, grrr
[19:05] <Adnan_89> delac : ok i am seeing link
[19:05] <aatifh> I am getting this error while running django server ImportError: No module named postgresql_psycopg2.base
[19:06] <overmind> PeterDrop: But in advanced efects manager?
[19:06] <mirak_> hi
[19:06] <mirak_> is it possible to put grub inside a lvm partition ?
[19:06] <smt> hi, i just fixed my acpi problem by integrating custom dsdt tables, does anyone know if that has to be done for every new kernel?
[19:07] <linuxismyhero> how do i get invited into hardware?
[19:07] <Eric^-> If i got a computer from 04, will the new ubuntu server edition work on it?
[19:07] <Eric^-> .
[19:07] <Eric^-> 32 bit then i guess.
[19:07] <PeterDrop> overmind iam in options conpizconfig manager
[19:07] <str0ng> aatifh, have you installed psycopg2?
[19:07] <guntbert> Random832: thx for the hint about set ff= in vim -- never seen that before
[19:08] <smt> shure eric, if its got enough memory
[19:08] <aatifh> str0ng, yes i did
[19:08] <str0ng> aatifh, was it on your python path?
[19:09] <Eric^-> smt: How much is needed?
[19:09] <random_> Random832, Fixed :P thanks.
[19:09] <Random832> no problem
[19:11] <random_> Another quick question, how would you change a folders permission + every file in the folder?
[19:11] <MrKeuner> hello, is it possible to reset printing settings everytime I open a pdf document?
[19:11] <MrKeuner> currentlt it keeps the last settings
[19:12] <MrKeuner> such as printing double copy,e tc.
[19:12] <str0ng> random_, do it with -R option
[19:12] <guntbert> random_: very careful !!! what and where do you want to change?
[19:12] <random_> str0ng, thanks, i kept forgeting the dam parameters
[19:13] <str0ng> random_, np.
[19:13] <random_> guntbert, i'm not touching the linux system, im just cahngeing files i downloaded on my user to root owned.
[19:14] <kop> str0ng, -r "recursive"
[19:14] <kop> str0ng, man chmod
[19:14] <guntbert> random_: ok ok :-)   but there remains a question: how did that happen in the first place ?  :)
[19:15] <str0ng> kop, hmmm.. it's "-R" (capital)
[19:15] <kop> <--- happens :)
[19:15] <chancesmith> is there anyone that could help me with DSL on a IBM TP T30
[19:15] <random_> guntbert, not to sure what your refering to.
[19:15] <kop> one handed , food
[19:15] <Tarantulafudge> Can't seem to access ubuntu-offtopic
[19:15] <str0ng> kop, that was his intention, to chmod the folder recursively :)
[19:15] <smt> Eric^-: this is specified on ubuntu.com
[19:16] <guntbert> random_: not that its really my business - but how did you get a bunch of root owned files in a user's directory?
[19:16] <neodemi> hi, ive just installed ubuntu 8.10, and im have a strange issue with network manager telling me  networking is disabled
[19:17] <neodemi> it cant be disabled as im online now
[19:17] <IdleOne> Tarantulafudge: you identified?
[19:17] <random_> guntbert, other way around, i dl'ed files, and switching them to root owned :P it's a server. (for a MMORPG)
[19:17] <nsadmin> chancesmith no one will know without some specifics
[19:17] <racquad> hi guys, I'm new with mod_rewrite and I'm having trouble to set a simple rewrite. I want mydomain.com/p/123 to be transformed into mydomain.com/index.php?module=permalink&id=123
[19:17] <racquad> any help/
[19:17] <racquad> ?
[19:17] <Tarantulafudge> IdleOne, originally no, but I am now and it doesn't seem to make a difference
[19:17] <IdleOne> Tarantulafudge: any messages?
[19:18] <Tarantulafudge> IdleOne, nope doesn't even say if I'm banned for some reason
[19:18] <Tarantulafudge> though I'm just using the applet
[19:18] <guntbert> random_: ah - yes that makes much more sense - so I won't keep you further :-))
[19:18] <IdleOne> Tarantulafudge: join #ubuntu-ops to see if we can figure it out
[19:19] <gebUK> hi all, I am running ubuntu on a machine with a wifi device, but the network manager is neither picking up wireless networks nor connecting to the ones I have added manually, is there something nice in ubuntu that picks up wifi networks and lets you connect fast?
[19:20] <Byan_> gebUK: has the device worked at all under ubuntu?
[19:20] <smt> look for wireless-tools in synaptic gebUK
[19:20] <nsadmin> gebUK: ever had this problem before on your ubuntu on this mahcine?
[19:20] <daedeloth> Very weird xserver issue: when I move to a screen left of the "main screen" (so, screen 0, where the login box appears), my mouse starts acting very weird.
[19:21] <gebUK> @Byan_ I have no idea, when i go to "hardware drivers" it does not show any problem
[19:21] <gebUK> so i guess it is picking up the device correctly
[19:21] <gebUK> nsadmin, I was looking at wicd
[19:22] <gebUK> but this conflicts with the standard network manager
[19:22] <Byan_> gebUK: lol, that doesn't really mean anything..
[19:22] <Byan_> gebUK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[19:23] <Byan_> what card do you have?
[19:23] <nsadmin> gebUK: have you ever successfully used this wireless device under this install of ubuntu on this machine?
[19:23] <neodemi> is there a way to stop and restart network manager?
[19:23] <imanc> any ideas how i can find the ip of a wireless network card?
[19:23] <geogis> what a great channel-1514 for now-
[19:23] <imanc> i type ifconfig, but can't decipher which IP it is
[19:23] <geekphreak> h all
[19:23] <geekphreak> imanc: iwconfig
[19:23] <imanc> geekphreak you rock!  thanks!
[19:24] <M4rotku> neodemi:  in the terminal, "killall nm-applet"  and then restart it by using the command "nm-applet" probably via alt+f2
[19:24] <Byan_> M4rotku: err.. shouldn't he just use init.d
[19:25] <Byan_> I think there is a NetworkManager script there
[19:25] <geekphreak> imanc:  are you trying to get internal or external ip ?
[19:25] <M4rotku> Byan_ that does sound better, i was just aiming for the manager itself.  that's how i start the network manager.
[19:25] <imanc> just internal - i am trying to move some mysql databases from osx to ubuntu
[19:25] <imanc> in actual fact, I need to get the IPs for osx - but it doesn't have iwconfig
[19:26] <Byan_> ifconfig should list the IP..
[19:26] <geekphreak> imanc:  you can use something like phpmyadmin, makes job easier
[19:26] <wiesshund3> Hey guys, does current ubuntu still install on the non intel macs?
[19:26] <nsadmin> you could have static internal IPs and a dns running somewhere in the internal net
[19:27] <Byan_> wiesshund3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC
[19:27] <neodemi> M4rotku, that haaas got the icon back for it
[19:27] <imanc> nsadmin - yeh that could be useful. My laptops do move about a bit tho
[19:27] <wiesshund3> thankyou neodemi
[19:28] <neodemi> any idea why it doesnt show any network connections though? i know im connected by the wireless on this machine
[19:28] <Guest20780> at what time is lucid being released tomorrow?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest20780:  its the 29th.. and at no set time.
[19:28] <Oer> same time usual
[19:29] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis:  howdy
[19:29]  * Guest20780 cant wait for lucid !!!
[19:29] <geekphreak> howdy oer
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> Guest20780:  then get the RC and instgall it now if you want.
[19:29] <Oer> hi geekphreak
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> moo geekphreak
[19:29] <nsadmin> avoid the rush and the bandwidth competition... upgrade before the release
[19:29] <nsadmin> in so doing you'll be nice to the mirrors
[19:29] <geekphreak> well moo back too you bud Dr_Willis :)
[19:30]  * geekphreak is on lucid and loving it :d
[19:30] <Byan_> neodemi: thats weird,.. no idea, does it list the wireless interface? you could try ifconfig -a
[19:30] <smt> hmm my notebook doesnt show connection info on wireless in nm-applet too
[19:31] <neodemi> Byan_, ifconfig shows the wireless as wlan0
[19:31] <geekphreak> smt:  can you try something for me?
[19:31] <Guest20780> I am planning to run ubuntu on a touch screen laptop - any chance of the availability of the necessary drivers? (HP TouchSmart tm2)
[19:31] <geekphreak> smt:  when you right click network-manager applet at top , can you choose connection information?
[19:31] <smt> dont have my nb here, geek
[19:32] <geekphreak> nb?
[19:32] <Guest20780> noteboo
[19:32] <Guest20780> k
[19:32] <geekphreak> oh ok
[19:32] <Guest20780> any idea if lucid will support touch interface?
[19:32] <smt> but, the answer is, the wireless device doesnt even show up in network manager applet  (nb=notebook)
[19:33] <nsadmin> not a boo, k?
[19:33] <Pici> Guest20780 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[19:33] <geekphreak> smt hope you did not install something like wicd?
[19:33] <smt> no
[19:33] <geekphreak> ok good
[19:34] <smt> it worked out of the box, but never showed up in nm-applet, but that doesnt matter to me
[19:34] <geekphreak> hey pici :)
[19:34] <Pici> Guest20780: hi
[19:34] <Pici> er geekphreak hi :)
[19:34] <Guest20780> hi pici
[19:35] <Andy-at-home> guys, why would i get this error "/hdls# ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[19:35] <Andy-at-home> bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory"? wrong shell?
[19:35] <bookman> Do USB DVD R/W drives work with Ubuntu?
[19:35] <linxeh> yes
[19:35] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home: did you chmod it?
[19:36] <ACKT1C> HEY I GOT ONE OF ThOSE
[19:36] <guntbert> !caps | ACKT1C
[19:36] <linxeh> ACKT1C: your caps lock key is on
[19:36] <Andy-at-home> yeah mate, chmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin
[19:36] <bookman> Any special drivers required or specific brands to shop for?
[19:36] <ACKT1C> can we switch to coca cola
[19:37] <guntbert> !ot | ACKT1C
[19:37] <ACKT1C> i think it's thicker than pepsi
[19:37] <ACKT1C> ok then, why does ubuntu imply only certain backgrounds
[19:37] <ACKT1C> is it version dependant or something
[19:37] <guntbert> ACKT1C:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:37] <wise_crypt> ACKT1C: joint us #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:38] <ShakeyJake> #christian
[19:38] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home: type pwd, , is path ok?
[19:38] <Andy-at-home> path is /home/hdls
[19:39] <ACKT1C> guntbert: is ubuntu background version dependant...
[19:39] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home: mostly if you download a file , it goes to Downloads folder, look there
[19:40] <guntbert> ACKT1C: I don't see how this is a support question
[19:40] <ACKT1C> guntbert: define support
[19:40] <geekphreak> although if chmod worked, that should work too ummm
[19:40] <ACKT1C> excuse me, set support
[19:40] <Andy-at-home> im missing something, been away from linux for too long
[19:41] <Andy-at-home> cd home
[19:41] <geekphreak> i see you are logged in as root
[19:41] <Andy-at-home> yeah
[19:41] <Andy-at-home> creating a user didnt work either
[19:41] <geekphreak> adduser name?
[19:42] <gebUK> @Byan_ the wifi card is recognised but the network gui is not picking it up
[19:42] <Guest20780> is it possible to upgrade to lucid from karma?
[19:42] <Guest20780> karmic
[19:43] <nsadmin> first bring karma completely uptodate, then upgrade
[19:43] <Andy-at-home> eh, useradd l4d1
[19:43] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home: both work :p
[19:43] <Andy-at-home> ah =D
[19:43] <gameware> laptop wont connect to wireless and it did few days ago please help
[19:44] <silner> I was told if you type update -d into an ALT F2 prompt it will take you through the updates and then the dist-upgrade nsadmin - is that true?
[19:45] <gebUK> hi my wifi card is recognised but the network gui is not picking it up even if the card is coming up in iwconfig
[19:45] <Andy-at-home> wheres the download folder? im sure i had it in the correct location anyway but worth checking
[19:45] <nsadmin> dunno specifically. you're advised to read the release notes
[19:45] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home: normaly $HOME/Downloads
[19:45] <Andy-at-home> mmm
[19:46] <Andy-at-home> dont have it
[19:46] <Andy-at-home> doesnt matter
[19:46] <linuxismyhero2> if someone can tell me how to register my name that'd be great :-)
[19:46] <geekphreak> are yo logged to root gui or just shell Andy-at-home?
[19:46] <gameware> how can i connect laptop to internet wont connect to wireless and it did few days ago please help
[19:46] <nsadmin> usually you would make sure karma is completely uptodate, then switch your sources, then upgrade dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, then try upgrading the kernel and reboot
[19:46] <geekphreak> !register | linuxismyhero2
[19:46] <nsadmin> then do a safe upgrade followed by a dist upgrade
[19:46] <silner> Thanks for Debian help the other day btw nsadmin - all working properly there now - pretty sure it was you :)
[19:47] <Andy-at-home> just the shell
[19:47] <ouned> hi. Does someone know howto fake a sound into teamspeak / skype?
[19:47] <nsadmin> cool :)
[19:47] <Andy-at-home> for my VPS on ubuntu 9.04
[19:47] <h00k> ouned: that isn't really an ubuntu specific question
[19:47] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home:  see place at top ?? , choose places then downloads
[19:47] <nsadmin> isn't really? or really isn't?
[19:48] <Oer> ouned keep the mic in front of the speaker :-D
[19:48] <ouned> Oer yeah thats what im doing since months
[19:48] <imanc> how do I set up an sftp server in ubuntu? Apparently it's easier to setup ftp/sftp than samba
[19:48] <nsadmin> that's a recipe for hardware and ear damage...
[19:49] <gameware> how can i connect laptop to internet wont connect to wireless and it did few days ago please help
[19:49] <geekphreak> imanc: vsftpd is the one i prefer :)
[19:49] <linxeh> imanc: samba is pretty easy to set up with ubuntu
[19:49] <linxeh> imanc: vsftpd does sftp ?
[19:49] <Andy-at-home> i can see the hldsupdatetool.bin in the home/hlds folder but it refuses to run
[19:49] <imanc> so
[19:49] <dariusz> siema
[19:49] <imanc> sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[19:49] <geekphreak> linxeh: yes :)
[19:49] <linxeh> it doesnt do sftp
[19:49] <nsadmin> imanc: you want the ssh server (and please don't do authenticated ftp)
[19:49] <linxeh> it does ftps
[19:50] <dariusz> :)
[19:50] <linxeh> ?
[19:50] <imanc> nsadmin - authenticated ftp?
[19:50] <linxeh> sftp != ftp/ssl
[19:50] <imanc> oh
[19:50] <imanc> yes - i know that.  FTP over SSL doesn't seem as good
[19:50] <gameware> how can i connect laptop to internet wont connect to wireless and it did few days ago please help
[19:50] <nsadmin> using passwords/users with ftp. bad juju.
[19:51] <geekphreak> linxeh: i though it did !!
[19:51] <dariusz> kiedy bedzie najnowsza wersja ubuntu?
[19:51] <zertu> hi
[19:51] <dariusz> mam ta 9.10
[19:51] <linxeh> geekphreak: it does ftp over ssl
[19:51] <zertu> i can't access as sudo user on my pc
[19:51] <zertu> is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[19:52] <zertu> what i have to do pzl ?
[19:52] <linxeh> geekphreak: or did you mean sftp you thought was ftp over ssh?
[19:52] <linxeh> zertu: then you need to use a user that is in the sudoers file
[19:52] <geekphreak> linxeh: i actually though it did both, i knew i set it up once
[19:52] <linxeh> zertu: usually the user you created when you installed ubuntu
[19:53] <linux_is_my_hero> im having trouble registering my name
[19:53] <zertu> what i have to do exactly ?
[19:53] <zertu> someone say to do
[19:53] <Andy-at-home> when i use the command 'su l4d1' the shell changes to sh-3.2$, is that normal?
[19:53] <zertu> adduser
[19:53] <h00k> linux_is_my_hero: you can get help in #freenode for registration
[19:53] <h00k> !register | linxeh
[19:53] <zertu> i don't know where to do this ?
[19:53] <h00k> linux_is_my_hero: ^
[19:53] <h00k> linxeh: sorry for the hilight
[19:54] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home:  is l4d1 username?
[19:54] <imanc> cool vsftpd is running - how do I create users / perms
[19:54] <imanc> ?
[19:54] <linxeh> zertu: log in as the user you used when you created ubuntu
[19:54] <Andy-at-home> think so
[19:54] <guntbert> zertu: please read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[19:54] <fbc-mx> I have to add a drive to fstab. FDISK tells me its a type 83. So how do I tell if I need to specify it as a EXT3 or EXT4 in fstab?
[19:54] <JabberWalkie> how can I get temperature data? (assuming I Have sensors) is there a good program for it?
[19:54] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home: it just changed the shell to that user, its ok
[19:55] <guntbert> linxeh: ah - step 1  - of course
[19:55] <linxeh> imanc: without sounding harsh, there is oodles of documentation for vsftpd if you google
[19:55] <linxeh> imanc: imo you are better off with sftp, but hey
[19:55] <JabberWalkie> I am worried by the fact that my power supply fan is not spinning, although it may just not be very hot...so dosn't need it
[19:55] <Andy-at-home> when i ls the file is clearly there but when I ./hldsupdatetool.bin it says No such file or directory
[19:55] <czerwony511> jest tu jakiś Polak?
[19:56] <zertu> thank guntbert
[19:56] <geekphreak> imanc:  man vsftpd.conf
[19:56] <guntbert> JabberWalkie: there is an applet and there is gkrellm
[19:56] <zertu> but how to create a new user and add to admin ?
[19:56] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home:  are you in that folder?
[19:56] <guntbert> zertu: are you the only user on your system?
[19:56] <linxeh> !ubuntu-pl | czerwony511
[19:56] <h00k> !pl | czerwony511
[19:57] <linxeh> heh my bad :)
[19:57] <Andy-at-home> dont i have to be if ls lists the files in the folder?
[19:57] <JabberWalkie> guntbert: what is the applet?
[19:57] <geekphreak> Andy-at-home: huh ?
[19:57] <Andy-at-home> lol
[19:57] <linxeh> Andy-at-home: what did you type when you did ls ?
[19:57] <gregl> JabberWalkie,  You really shouldn't worry about how hot your PC gets,You should shut it down and replace the fan..
[19:58] <Andy-at-home> root@host:/home/hdls# ls
[19:58] <IMoM> I am unable to calibrate my touchscreen, can someone please assist..
[19:58] <JabberWalkie> gregl: sometimes fans don't run because they dont need too....
[19:58] <Andy-at-home> hldsupdatetool.bin
[19:58] <Andy-at-home> root@kfour:/home/hdls#
[19:58] <LucidGuy> Trying to cp a 8.1GB file to a usb flash drive and I receive a file too large error.  The flash drive is one large 16GB NTFS file system.  Any suggestions?
[19:58] <Andy-at-home> ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[19:58] <linxeh> Andy-at-home: ok, you are likely missing something that the tool needs
[19:58] <guntbert> JabberWalkie: seems there is none - I misremembered :-(  but with gkrellm you can monitor "everything"
[19:58] <dariusz> what?
[19:58] <Andy-at-home> ah
[19:59] <gregl> JabberWalkie, I had a power supply fan fail and it burnt out the motherboard and HD's..
[19:59] <dariusz> fii
[19:59] <Andy-at-home> can i install left 4 dead server through one of the auto package thingys?
[19:59] <JabberWalkie> gregl: how does that work?
[19:59] <linxeh> Andy-at-home: http://forums.srcds.com/viewtopic/10636
[19:59] <gregl> JabberWalkie,  how does what work?
[20:00] <gebUK__> yo
[20:00] <JabberWalkie> gregl: i mean, the process....
[20:00] <dariusz> yo
[20:00] <Pwalpubien> Ya til des francais ?
[20:00] <linxeh> Andy-at-home: that might not be right though
[20:00] <linxeh> !fr
[20:00] <Pwalpubien> okok
[20:00] <gregl> JabberWalkie, It's really OT here..
[20:00] <Pwalpubien> can we speak about hack ?
[20:00] <taomaster> anyone having an issue with the new iso image 10.4-rc
[20:01] <JabberWalkie> gregl: fair enough
[20:01] <gebUK__> my damn ubuntu has recognised the wifi card but the network manager wont see it, has anyone got a solution to this problem to get wifi working?
[20:01] <guntbert> Pwalpubien: not here please
[20:01] <h00k> Pwalpubien: please see the !topic of the channel
[20:01] <h00k> gebUK__: please watch your language and keep it family friendly
[20:01] <imanc> linxeh, geekphreak yes, I m on google!  linxeh - vsftpd != sftp??
[20:01] <guntbert> taomaster: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[20:01] <Andy-at-home> thanks linxeh, looks promising, at least i know its not me going mental
[20:01] <linxeh> imanc: no, it is ftp, and ftp over ssl
[20:01] <linxeh> imanc: sftp uses sshd
[20:01] <Adnan_89> if i upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 from 9.1 then can i return back to previous cinfiguration?
[20:01] <gebUK__> h00k, is damn a bad word?
[20:02] <zertu> what this line tell  Defaults !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn which is on /etc/sudoers file?
[20:02] <IdleOne> Adnan_89: ubuntu does not support rolebacks
[20:02] <Andy-at-home> linxeh, thanks mate, that fixed it
[20:02] <IdleOne> rollbacks*
[20:02] <h00k> gebUK__: It is not family-friendly.
[20:02] <linxeh> Andy-at-home: ok cool :D
[20:02] <Adnan_89> ok means cant get back to 9.1
[20:02] <IdleOne> gebUK: it leads to other bad words so yes
[20:03] <imanc> linxeh - want sftp.  I have just set up a linode server that i'll be hosting a load of websites on, and so I wanted to get to grips with configuring these services on my laptop first.  So .... am I looking to download sftpd or something?
[20:03] <linxeh> imanc: install openssh-server, I think thats all you need
[20:03] <wise_crypt> !sudo > zertu
[20:03] <Tadys> http://www.kompiuterija.us.lt/
[20:03] <linxeh> imanc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347478
[20:03] <IdleOne> Adnan_89: if you have a !separatehome then you can just do a fresh install of 9.10 if you need/want to
[20:03] <h00k> Tadys: this isn't the place to spam
[20:03] <imanc> linxeh - thanks.  Apologies for my stupid questions - I am still a linux newb :)
[20:04] <gebUK__> IdleOne, h00k thats your opinion, it is neither a bad word nor any lead to crime or such
[20:04] <gebUK__> i guess if you can help
[20:04] <gebUK__> you can tell me what to do about the wifi
[20:04] <IdleOne> gebUK: it is also the rules of this channel so please respect the rules. Thanks
[20:04] <linxeh> imanc: http://www.codeguru.com/csharp/.net/net_general/internet/article.php/c14329 - pros/cons of both sftp and ftps
[20:04] <IdleOne> !wifi | gebUK
[20:04] <Adnan_89> idleone : separate home?
[20:04] <IdleOne> !separatehome > Adnan_89
[20:05] <Adnan_89> what that means bro?
[20:05] <gebUK__> ubottu, this document says that if the card is recognised in iwconfig
[20:05] <IdleOne> Adnan_89: read the link ubottu sent you
[20:05] <gebUK__> then it should come up in network-manager
[20:05] <gebUK__> and it is not
[20:05] <Adnan_89> k
[20:05] <thieusoai> what's the dpkg command to show the files  in a deb file ?
[20:05] <litropy> Hi, peeps: 1) does Evolution Tasks support sub-tasks? 2) The task list in the Time and Date panel widget is organized alphabetically. Is there a way to sort by the order in the actual task list?
[20:05] <IdleOne> gebUK: some people use wicd and have better support
[20:06] <Theowning> thieusoai: I think its "dpkg --contents file.deb
[20:06] <linxeh> imanc: iirc all you have to do is give the users an account on your system, and then change their shell to an sftp only one
[20:06] <gebUK__> but then i need to remove network-manager, IdleOne do you use wicd?
[20:06] <IdleOne> gebUK: I have and it worked well
[20:06] <gebUK__> ok i ll try that
[20:06] <gebUK__> thanks
[20:07] <IdleOne> gebUK: sure thing
[20:07] <thieusoai> Theowning, thanks that works fine
[20:07] <geekphreak> IdleOne:  question if you install wicd, dies it uninstall nm?
[20:08] <geekphreak> does*
[20:08] <Theowning> Hmm, I really messed up my boot and dont really know where to go from here. Using grub2 was working fine until I uninstalled splashy and now it's pulling errors all the time about Invalid numbers and other stuff.
[20:08] <IdleOne> geekphreak: I don't think it does
[20:08] <thieusoai> I compile my own kernel following the Ubuntu Kernel Compile document  (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile)  ... the cmd is something like
[20:08] <thieusoai> fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-some-string-here kernel-image kernel-headers
 this creates 2 deb files   (image & header)  ,    problem is that it doesn't seem to create any initrd file
[20:08] <thieusoai> did I miss any thing ?
[20:08] <wise_crypt> !pastebin | thieusoai
[20:10] <IdleOne> guntbert: may I message you?
[20:11] <kaki> hi all
[20:11] <guntbert> IdleOne: of course
[20:11] <kaki> i have probleme with deposities keys
[20:11] <kaki> W: Erreur GPG : http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu être vérifiées car la clé publique n'est pas disponible : NO_PUBKEY 6E871C4A881574DE
[20:13] <erUSUL> !gpgerr
[20:13] <kaki> thanks ubottu
[20:13] <judgen> hmm i get this error when i try to play Postal2 Can't find file for package 'WinDrv' after the splash screen.. and the game quits. Any ideas is wellcome.
[20:14] <wise_crypt> judgen: do you use wine?
[20:14] <litropy> Hi, peeps: 1) does Evolution Tasks support sub-tasks? 2) The task list in the Time and Date panel widget is organized alphabetically. Is there a way to sort by the order in the actual task list?
[20:14] <erUSUL> judgen: #winehq
[20:15] <erUSUL> !appdb > judgen
[20:15] <rodox> hi everyone
[20:16] <dcmeese> Hola
[20:16] <wise_crypt> !patience | litropy
[20:16] <lalalol> how can i see what driver i need for my wifi to work? im currently on wifi, but ill do a fresh 10.04 install and it prob wont find my wifi card again
[20:17] <litropy> wise_crypt: ubottu needs an entry for !User Attention Variance Over Time
[20:17] <litropy> :D
[20:17] <litropy> UAVOT
[20:17] <judgen> erUSUL: Its isn't running wine. Its native.
[20:17] <wise_crypt> !weekend
[20:18] <erUSUL> lalalol: lshw -C Network | grep driver | grep wireless
[20:19] <MrKeuner> hello, is it possible to reset printing settings everytime I open a pdf document?
[20:19] <judgen> It's based on the unreal engine, and completley native.
[20:19] <gebUK> wicd is not making a difference
[20:19] <gebUK> :(
[20:19] <Wicked> !firewall
[20:20] <lalalol> erUSUL, it displays nothing
[20:20] <BobXFett> Hello all.  I'm having a bit of a problem getting a USB wireless adapter to work in Ubuntu.  I've read through a number of threads and guides about the specific adapter I have and I've hit a dead end.  No articles/threads I can find seem to resolve the problem for me.  Might anyone be able to help?
[20:21] <famille>  comment on peut utiliser des logiciel de windows on ubuntu
[20:21] <lalalol> !fr
[20:21] <h00k> !fr | famille
[20:22] <erUSUL> lalalol: plain « sudo lshw -C Network » ?
[20:22] <lalalol> erUSUL, i got some output now
[20:23] <erUSUL> lalalol: look for the stanza belonging to tyour wireless card and read the configuration line
[20:23] <erUSUL> lalalol: in there there should be information on the driver it uses ?
[20:23] <lalalol> erUSUL, i cant find "stanza"
[20:24] <famille> can I see the methode of using the program of windawos to ubuntu
[20:24] <h00k> famille: you can join #ubuntu-fr for support in your native language
[20:24] <erUSUL> lalalol: stanza == section
[20:25] <lalalol> erUSUL, network controller, ethernet interface, wireless interface, which should i choose?
[20:25] <arand> !wine | famille if this what you are looking for:
[20:26] <wise_crypt> !virtualizers > wise_crypt
[20:27] <h00k> !msgthebot > wise_crypt
[20:27] <TuxTaming> lucid lynx
[20:27] <h00k> TuxTaming: Lucid discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[20:28] <gebUK> is anyone got any idea why i can see the wlan card using iwconfig and with ipconfig is see only eth0 and lo
[20:30] <wise_crypt> !wifi > gebUK
[20:31] <IdleOne> gebUK: ifconfig
[20:31] <lalalol> how can i know what wireless driver im using? ill need to know it when i do a fresh 10.04 install
[20:31] <IdleOne> lalalol: did 9.10 detect it auto?
[20:31] <Theowning> Hmm, I really messed up my boot and dont really know where to go from here. Using grub2 was working fine until I uninstalled splashy and now it's pulling errors all the time saying "return: 24: Illegal number:".
[20:32] <lalalol> IdleOne, im actually using kubuntu 9.10, but no it didnt detect it automatically
[20:32] <IdleOne> lalalol: then the same method you used to get it working should still apply. test with a live cd
[20:33] <gebUK> IdleOne ? sorry i didnt get your message
[20:33] <magicianlord> does anyone like kde and why?
[20:33] <lalalol> IdleOne, that's the problem, i cant remember
[20:33] <gebUK> wise_crypt, i am currently looking at the documentation
[20:33] <IdleOne> heh
[20:33] <BobXFett> I'm trying to get a wireless USB adapter (dlink wua-2340) to work in ubuntu.  The documentation I've found online indicates that there's no native Linux driver, so I must use ndiswrapper and install the Windows driver.  I've followed the instructions on how to do that.  When I perform "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" I don't get an error message (other than it warning that non .conf files will be deprecated in future), but the USB dr
[20:33] <BobXFett> [   15.266221] ndiswrapper version 1.55 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no)
[20:33] <BobXFett> [   15.792428] ndiswrapper (import:242): unknown symbol: ntoskrnl.exe:'KeNumberProcessors'
[20:33] <BobXFett> [   15.792494] ndiswrapper (load_sys_files:206): couldn't prepare driver 'neta5agu'
[20:33] <BobXFett> [   15.793122] ndiswrapper (load_wrap_driver:108): couldn't load driver neta5agu; check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[20:33] <BobXFett> [   15.793231] usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper
[20:33] <FloodBot2> BobXFett: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <lalalol> magicianlord, i loathe kde and i use it
[20:34] <h00k> !pastebin | BobXFett
[20:34] <BobXFett> Woops, sorry.
[20:34] <IdleOne> !polls | magicianlord
[20:34] <BobXFett> Didn't realize that would happen, apologies.
[20:34] <magicianlord> i cant stand kde
[20:35] <lalalol> me neither magicianlord
[20:35] <magicianlord> its like a nonfunctional versino of mac os with all the bloat
[20:35] <wise_crypt> gebUK: happy reading
[20:35] <lalalol> yeah
[20:35] <magicianlord> i use openbox
[20:35] <lalalol> IdleOne, got any other ideas?
[20:35] <IdleOne> lalalol: lspci | grep Ethernet
[20:35] <h00k> magicianlord: do you have any questions for support needs?
[20:35] <lalalol> thx IdleOne
[20:35] <IdleOne> then search for solutions
[20:36] <h00k> magicianlord: discussion such as that are better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:36] <lalalol> IdleOne, i get this 1 line: "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)"
[20:37] <magicianlord> :(
[20:38] <gebUK> wise_crypt, well the problem is that what i am readying does not correspond to what i have on the shell
[20:38] <gebUK> so i have no idea on what to do next
[20:38] <zleap> readying oh reading
[20:38] <erUSUL> lalalol: wireless; you asked about your wirelless interface; don't you ?
[20:39] <IdleOne> lalalol: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1335911 might help
[20:39] <lalalol> erUSUL, can you paste the command again please, i've been trying other stuff >.<
[20:39] <IdleOne> lalalol: oh you asked about wifi? sorry
[20:40] <erUSUL> lalalol:  « sudo lshw -C Network »
[20:40] <lalalol> thx IdleOne and erUSUL
[20:40] <erUSUL> lalalol: "lspci -v" shows the module used too
[20:41] <lalalol> erUSUL, let's pm
[20:41] <erUSUL> !paste
[20:41] <BobXFett> Is there a channel that focuses on wireless support for Ubuntu?  I can't seem to find what I need.
[20:42] <h00k> BobXFett: this would be the place
[20:42] <h00k> BobXFett: also, the forums
[20:42] <BobXFett> Ok, thanks.
[20:42] <real_ate> hey guys... is there anything i can do to figure out what is going on with my lucid upgrade if i don't even get as far as a command prompt
[20:43] <real_ate> even in recovery mode
[20:43] <IdleOne> real_ate: Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[20:43] <real_ate> IdleOne: thanks
[20:43] <wise_crypt> gebUK: any progress ?
[20:44] <gebUK> wise_crypt, not much
[20:45] <gebUK> i can see the card as recognised
[20:45] <gebUK> but wicd cannot see it
[20:45] <Inde147> Hello
[20:45] <gebUK> from iwconfig i see the card
[20:45] <gebUK> but from ipconfig i cannot controll it (for instance i cannot bring the device up or down)
[20:46] <Inde147> I am trying to put Ubuntu Server on a Cd-Rom on my mac and use it to install it on an old PC
[20:46] <wise_crypt> gebUK:  ubuntu has recognised the wifi card < how do you know di you lshw -C network; but the network manager wont see it > have you ifconfig/iwconfig
[20:46] <gebUK> because if i try sudo ipconfig wlan0 down or up
[20:46] <gebUK> iwconfig
[20:46] <Inde147> When I download it to the CD-ROM, should I use mount?
[20:46] <Inde147> Or not?
[20:46] <IdleOne> !iso
[20:46] <dcmeese> Inde147: Did you burn it onto the cd?
[20:47] <wise_crypt> gebUK: ipconfig is in win32 in linux its ifconfig
[20:47] <Inde147> Thank you...
[20:47] <IdleOne> Inde147: what you want isto burn the iso bootable
[20:47] <Inde147> dc
[20:47] <Inde147> dcmeese: Yes, but not mounted
[20:47] <Inde147> IdleOne: Yes
[20:47] <Inde147> IdleOne: is there a special download for that?
[20:47] <dcmeese> Inde147: Did you check the md5sum?
[20:48] <Inde147> dcmeese: No, I have no idea what that means :(
[20:48] <IdleOne> Inde147: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[20:48] <gebUK> wise_crypt, i meant ifconfig
[20:48] <gebUK> so if i try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, it does not work, it says no such file or directory
[20:49] <Inde147> IdleOne: thank you!
[20:49] <IdleOne> Inde147: is it ppc? if so then you need to find a ubuntu-ppc iso
[20:49] <Inde147> IdleOne: No, it isn't
[20:49] <Inde147> I'm going to sign out and try this using the help pages, thank you
[20:50] <mozir> I'm trying to get started with GCC, but it keeps saying that my input file doesn't exist. Where do I have to put it so I can just access it via "gcc myfile.cpp"?
[20:51] <wise_crypt> IdleOne: correct me if I'm wrong, sudo modprobe forcedwlan0 < is this right ?
[20:51] <IdleOne>  wise_crypt no clue
[20:51] <IdleOne> erUSUL: would probably know :) ^^
[20:52] <real_ate> IdleOne: don't supose i could just ask here about my lucid upgrade?
[20:52] <h00k> real_ate: #ubuntu+1 for lucid
[20:52] <erUSUL> wise_crypt: i do not know of any module for that name ...
[20:52] <IdleOne> real_ate: lucid is still not released so the appropriate place is #ubuntu+1
[20:52] <real_ate> well i tried
[20:52] <mozir> Sorry, disconnected. Does somebody know what I'm doing wrong with GCC?
[20:52] <dcmeese> !lucid | real_ate
[20:53] <real_ate> i just want to know if there is anything i can do to debug a kernal that doesn't get to a comand prompt
[20:53] <real_ate> its a generic question
[20:53] <yoyoned> mozir: how  did you instal gcc.
[20:53] <moetunes> mozir: you need to cd to the dir the file is in or give the full pathh
[20:53] <real_ate> but i do get your point about lucid
[20:53] <mozir> moetunes: I tried it with giving the whole path too
[20:53] <moetunes> k
[20:53] <mozir> yoyoned: apt-get with buildessentials
[20:54] <mozir> Okay... I tried it with putting sudo in front of the command and it worked.
[20:54] <yoyoned> gcc /path/to/file.c should work.  pastebin the error
[20:54] <magicianlord> sumo, you mean
[20:54] <sebsebseb> Hi
[20:54] <mozir> magicianlord: If you say so
[20:54]  * real_ate is not feeling helped :(
[20:54] <mozir> Seems like you always have to put sudo in front of every command just so
[20:55] <magicianlord> lol
[20:55] <wise_crypt> erUSUL: so should i assume it does not exist ?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> real_ate: just joined, what's your issue?
[20:55] <mozir> Works better then huh?
[20:55] <RxDx> do you guys think that 64bits is mature enough or keep 32bits is better?
[20:55] <guntbert> mozir: don't do that!  only use sudo/gksudo if you *must*
[20:56] <real_ate> sebsebseb: just upgraded to lucid and have a kernal thats not getting to a command prompt ( i know ubuntu+1  but i'm just asking if there is anything one can do to debug a kernal without a prompt )
[20:56] <erUSUL> wise_crypt: no; what wifi chip do you have ?
[20:56] <mozir> guntbert: Not even g++/gcc works without sudo
[20:56] <racecar56> RxDx: i installed ubuntu 10.04 i686 by mistake in the past, so i just cloned it and installed amd64 version alongside
[20:56] <sebsebseb> racecar56: 64bit version of Ubuntu should work well
[20:56] <sebsebseb> uh that was meant to be sent to RxDx
[20:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb: k
[20:56] <guntbert> mozir: then you did something *very* wrong with your system
[20:56] <yoyoned> mozir: gcc should work as a regular user.  do you have write access where the new files will be built
[20:57] <wise_crypt> erUSUL: i'm trying to help gebUK here
[20:57] <mozir> guntbert: Just installed.
[20:57] <racecar56> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 beta 2 to rc?
[20:57] <racecar56> it's not working for me
[20:57] <sebsebseb> !lucid | racecar56
[20:57] <RxDx> sebsebseb, there r some programs that isnt supported for 64bit =\
[20:57] <racecar56> it doesn't allow me to
[20:57] <erUSUL> wise_crypt: ok
[20:57] <mozir> yoyoned: It always wants to build in /home
[20:57] <sebsebseb> RxDx: such as?
[20:57] <andril> what's good for cloning Ubuntu
[20:57] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'm on 10.04 beta 2 and i want to upgrade to rc
[20:57] <sebsebseb> !cloneing | andril
[20:57] <guntbert> mozir: please be serious - I installed scores of systems - such a case never occured to me
[20:57] <IdleOne> !cloning | andril
[20:57] <mozir> mozir: Yet I'm getting the "No such file" error without sudo, even when running on Desktop
[20:57] <wise_crypt> gebUK: what wifi chip do you have ?
[20:57] <erUSUL> wise_crypt: popular wifi chips in laptops are broadcom ( b43 module ) and atheros ath5k or ath9k modules
[20:58] <yoyoned> mozir: please pastbin the output of trying to run gcc as a non-root user
[20:58] <sebsebseb> racecar56: i'll answer you in +1
[20:58] <wise_crypt> erUSUL: should it be auto-detected ?
[21:00] <erUSUL> wise_crypt: for atheros System>Admin>Hardware drivers should work
[21:00] <erUSUL> wise_crypt: for broadcom you have to « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter » why connected to internet via wired
[21:00] <mozir> yoyoned: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Kgry0XPk
[21:00] <erUSUL> s/why/while/
[21:00] <PeterDrop> erUSUL u have a minute?
[21:00] <An_Ony_Moose> why does my connection always get lost when I download torrents?
[21:00] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: yes
[21:01] <PeterDrop> erUSUL txs, remember yesterday .. my problem sound ..
[21:01] <An_Ony_Moose> I'm trying to download the RC and am constantly losing my network connection if I don't cap the speed
[21:01] <wise_crypt> gebUK: are you reading what erUSUL stated?
[21:01] <racecar56> An_Ony_Moose: if it's because it's making everything else slow, maybe try putting a download speed limit on the torrent
[21:01] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: yes
[21:02] <PeterDrop> erUSUL can u helpme now, i installed the 10.4 version, and the card is detected now
[21:02] <An_Ony_Moose> racecar56, it's not making anything else slow. It just drops the connection after ~15 seconds when I'm not limiting the speed.
[21:02] <PeterDrop> erUSUL , all seem to be good i think ... but no sound :(
[21:02] <wise_crypt> !alsa > PeterDrop
[21:02] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: you checked with alsamixer that no channel is muted ?
[21:03] <PeterDrop> all the chanels are in 00 and at top ( red squares)
[21:03] <yoyoned> mozir: is abc.exe a C sourcecode?
[21:04] <An_Ony_Moose> it drops the connection after some time at any speed higher than  50kbps
[21:04] <mozir> yoyoned: It is the output file, sorry, biased by 10 years of Windows - That's why I still write the exe for binary files
[21:04] <mozir> How do you set the cwd in the terminal again?
[21:04] <An_Ony_Moose> mozir, cd <newfolder>
[21:04] <yoyoned> mozir: I missread you paste
[21:05] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: ant the volume control (right click) is that muted ?
[21:05] <guntbert> mozir: please pastebin the output of ls -la /home/myacc/Desktop
[21:05] <CrazyWoods> are there someone using longene?
[21:05] <mozir> An_Ony_Moose: Strange, I got confused by the terminal writing 'myacc@myacc-desktop$', thought the CWD already was /Desktop
[21:05] <PeterDrop> erUSUL is not muted
[21:06] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: and none of your apps work ?
[21:06] <An_Ony_Moose> mozir, myacc-desktop would be the machine name
[21:06] <wise_crypt> PeterDrop: check your speaker jack see it well connected
[21:06] <PeterDrop> erUSUL no sound at all
[21:06] <mozir> An_Ony_Moose: Ah, okay.
[21:07] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: do you have mplayer installed ?
[21:07] <neitcho> looking for app to compress an .ogg video?
[21:07] <PeterDrop> erUSUL i dont know
[21:07] <PeterDrop> i hae another reproductor
[21:08] <erUSUL> install mplayer
[21:09] <mozir> Okay, I got gcc working now. The handling of the current working directory in the terminal confuses me, though
[21:10] <guntbert> mozir: good - but still it worries me that you seem to "need sudo for everything"  - is that so or was it exaggerated a bit?
[21:10] <JayX> how to i find an windows alternative program for Ubuntu'?>?
[21:10] <erUSUL> !equivalents
[21:10] <JayX>  i mean a windows app... but the alternative to it so i can use it on Ubuntu
[21:10] <visor> hi
[21:11] <mozir> guntbert: I'm new and got confused by something in the terminal making me think the cwd is /Desktop
[21:11] <mozir> guntbert: But gcc tried to run in /home, which I don't have the rights for
[21:11] <visor> gwibber doesnt show any tweets even when properly configured on Lucid beta 2 though I just updated all packages yesterday so I guess I have RC already installed, anybody has had the same problem?
[21:11] <PeterDrop> erUSUL ok mplayer is installed
[21:11] <mozir> guntbert: So I just tried sudo and it logically worked
[21:11] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: now try « mplayer -ao pulse someaudiofile »
[21:11] <h00k> visor: Lucid discussion takes placein #ubuntu+1
[21:12] <visor> h00k: sorry didnt read the topic, thanks
[21:12] <c3l> what was the command to list harddrives and their size?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> JayX: http://www.osalt.com http://www.linuxeq.com and get the programs from,  the Software Centre or Synaptic or using sudo apt-get command ideally.  so yeah I mean the  Ubuntu repo's
[21:12] <JayX> erUSUL,  how do i get pidign to install from terminal on ubuntu 9,.10?
[21:12] <h00k> c3l: df -h
[21:12] <erUSUL> JayX: sudo aptitude install pidgin
[21:13] <sebsebseb> JayX: most programs you will want to use for Destop Linux distros will be in the Ubuntu repo's,  and if not install from offical website/source
[21:13] <guntbert> mozir: oh, ok - yes thats the "solution" - but please keep in mind that it is mainly the reduced rights for a normal user, that makes linux less prone to viruses and such things
[21:13] <c3l> h00k, hm ty
[21:13] <PeterDrop> its works!
[21:13] <UltimateMacUser1> Hey all.  I've got Ubuntu 10.04 running on my Power Mac MDD G4, and i can't get both outputs on my nvidia GForce4 Ti AGP graphics card to work.  Is there any way to set it up so i can use both my displays?
[21:13] <mozir> Okay: I have compiled my hello world (hw) C++ program, now located in '/home/myacc/Desktop/'. 'pwd' in the terminal outputs '/home/myacc/Desktop/'. I enter 'hw'. Output: 'hw: command not found'. I enter '/home/myacc/Desktop/hw'. Output: My programming showing 'Hello World!
[21:13] <mozir> '
[21:14] <guntbert> mozir: so needing sudo should always be sort of an alarm signal: "possible danger ahead"
[21:14] <mozir> guntbert: I know, and it indeed was a bit exaggerated
[21:14] <JayX> erUSUL,  i tried  "sudo apt-get install pidgin" and i get a responce from terminalk >> "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[21:14] <mozir> But why do I still need the absolute path for running my binary in the terminal, even if my CWD already is there?
[21:14] <PeterDrop> erUSUL its work, i dont know why ..  but i cant hear from the "front pc" ( sry about my poor english)
[21:15] <erUSUL> JayX: so do as instructed ... « sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:15] <PeterDrop> erUSUL i need to configure something else?
[21:15] <Buhmillion> hey guys, i think i found a facebook exploit
[21:15] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: ya te dije ayer que si prefieres español vayas a #ubuntu-es
[21:15] <guntbert> mozir: next security thing: normally the "current directory" is not in the search path for executable programs so you would type ./hw  in the directory
[21:16] <h00k> Buhmillion: This really isn't the place for that.
[21:16] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: now that we know that pulse works. just configure all your apps to use pulse and not alsa
[21:16] <erUSUL> !es | PeterDrop
[21:16] <Buhmillion> good, cuz i was about to troll
[21:16] <PeterDrop> erUSUL ok ok, i dont like es, just a smartass people
[21:16] <Buhmillion> bout oh well
[21:16] <exigraff> mozir: it needs a path somehow, unless it's in one of the locations given in $PATH (run `echo $PATH` to see these)
[21:16] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: :/
[21:16] <PeterDrop> erUSUl sry its true
[21:16] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: you are confusing us with #debian-es
[21:16] <PeterDrop> erUSUL maybe
[21:17] <PeterDrop> erUSUL anyway very txs for ur help erUSUL
[21:17] <erUSUL> PeterDrop: no problem
[21:17] <PeterDrop> erUSUL abot the front panel ..
[21:18] <mozir> Next thing: I'd just like to add /home/myacc/Desktop to the search path - for simplicity - can I accomplish that via the terminal?
[21:18] <JayX> erUSUL,  how can i see what i installed today on my system.. i messsed up my Ubuntu.. is there a "restore" feature?
[21:18] <smik> Samba is very slow, any other alternative to share with a Windows machine?
[21:18] <edigleyg3> ola
[21:18] <erUSUL> no restore feature sorry; you can see an historic of installed packages in synaptic
[21:18] <erUSUL> JayX: ^
[21:19] <erUSUL> JayX: in file>historic/log
[21:21] <gebUK> erUSUL, i tried the command , sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter , for my broadcom device but it did not make a difference ... what am I supposed to do after installing this
[21:21] <erUSUL> gebUK: either reboot or « sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 »
[21:21] <Buhmillion> well i have a question, how do i setup a file server on ubuntu server edition? what do i use, i want to use authentication, something like samba, or maybe a web interface. any help?
[21:21] <JayX> how do i get to "file>historic/log" if i may ask?// i dont see it in /root
[21:22] <lenswipe> hey guys
[21:22] <racecar56> hi
[21:22] <erUSUL> JayX: in the synaptic gui. go to the menu File in that menu choose historic
[21:22] <lenswipe> users on my server have read access to /var/www
[21:22] <lenswipe> would it be ok to chmod /var/www recursively to 750?
[21:22] <bodom> Hi there, apt-get -u dist-upgrade wants to install a LOT of new packages, is there a way to see from where they are depended?
[21:22] <racecar56> lenswipe: i don't see why not
[21:22] <guntbert> mozir: edit .profile in your home directory, it contains settings for PATH, you can use the last 3 lines as example
[21:22] <Buhmillion> but i want them to upload and download
[21:22] <lenswipe> racecar56, wait, whats the default?
[21:22] <racecar56> lenswipe: should be fine
[21:22] <mozir> guntbert: Thanks a lot
[21:23] <lenswipe> racecar56, is the default 775?
[21:23] <racecar56> lenswipe: ls -l /var|grep www
[21:23] <lenswipe> ok
[21:23] <guntbert> mozir: have fun with ubuntu :)
[21:23] <bodom> lenswipe: what user is running your web server?
[21:23] <lenswipe> bodom, www-data
[21:23] <lenswipe> its apache2 on ubuntu
[21:23] <bodom> lenswipe: so I suppose www-data should have read-access
[21:23] <lenswipe> bodom, www-data owns the files doesnt he?
[21:23] <lenswipe> she
[21:23] <lenswipe> it
[21:23] <lenswipe> even
[21:23] <FloodBot2> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:23] <Buhmillion> its a she
[21:23] <mmr> hello there
[21:24] <lenswipe> ok
[21:24] <lenswipe> nyway
[21:24] <lenswipe> doesnt www-data own the files? therefore would have read write execute perms?
[21:24] <bodom> lenswipe: so, you can chmod
[21:24] <Inde147> Hi
[21:24] <lenswipe> bodom, ?
[21:24] <IMoM> how do I stop X from using HAL?
[21:24] <Inde147> I'm using the program Burn to burn my ISO
[21:24] <mewshi> Hi, what can I do to be more involved in the community?
[21:25] <bodom> lenswipe: if www-data is the owner, you can chmod 750
[21:25] <Inde147> Should I use 'Copy' or 'Data'?
[21:25] <lenswipe> ok
[21:25] <bodom> lenswipe: maybe 500 is better
[21:25] <xangua> mewshi: contact your local ubuntu comunity perphaps
[21:25] <lenswipe> bodom, no, 770 i think
[21:25] <lenswipe> bodom, its so that i can write to /var/www on the server using netbeans over SFTP
[21:25] <Buhmillion> lenswipe, give root a pssword with "sudo passwd" and then from there edit the files. then, to delete the root password, use "sudo passwd -d"
[21:25] <lenswipe> Buhmillion, see above
[21:26] <mewshi> There's not a local ubuntu community :(
[21:26] <guntbert> !noroot | Buhmillion
[21:26] <racecar56> Buhmillion: nice passwd trick (passwd -d), i should read manpages more ;)
[21:26] <Inde147> For my ISO, do I use 'Data' or 'Copy'?
[21:26] <Inde147> *ISO burn
[21:26] <racecar56> Inde147: data sounds better, what program is this
[21:26] <Buhmillion> it sets a hash that no string can match, so no passwd
[21:27] <guntbert> Buhmillion: sudo -i is much cleaner and easier
[21:27] <Inde147> racecar56: It is 'Burn'
[21:27] <lenswipe> what should php scripts be chmodded to?
[21:27] <lenswipe> 644 is it?
[21:27] <Buhmillion> guntbert, yes, i imagine thats true
[21:27] <racecar56> lenswipe: i think that's normal
[21:27] <Inde147> racecar56: Thanks. I'll try it
[21:27] <lenswipe> cool
[21:27] <Inde147> racecar56: as data
[21:27] <racecar56> Inde147: yw
[21:27] <Buhmillion> executable and readable by others, and you're fine
[21:28] <Inde147> racecar56:  if it doesnt work, I'll switch it up :)
[21:28] <guntbert> Buhmillion: :-)  so please don't recommend setting a root password in the future
[21:28] <Buhmillion> noted.
[21:28] <lenswipe> bodom, if i chmod to 755 i get permission denied
[21:29] <bodom> lenswipe: using wich user?
[21:29] <lenswipe> nvm
[21:29] <lenswipe> i just chowned it all to www-data
[21:29] <MamboKing> hello all
[21:30] <racecar56> hi
[21:30] <racecar56> lenswipe: i like server configs where /var/www is owned by a www group so anyone who is in it can modify it's content
[21:30] <MamboKing> I'm trying to get more that 8 /dev/loop devices, i'm running ubuntu 9.10 which has dm-mapper already built into the kernel instead of loaded with modprobe
[21:30] <gebUK> erUSUL, thank you very much for your suggestion
[21:30] <gebUK> i did a reboot and now i can see the wifi devices on wicd
[21:31] <gebUK>  i ll try to connect now
[21:31] <erUSUL> gebUK: no problem
[21:31] <MamboKing> I've come accross a fix for this by adding /etc/modprobe.d/local and in there adding options loop max_loop=255 but i'm not loading the module with modprobe so I'm wondering how to change it
[21:31] <kane77> hey, I'm looking for timer that can be used to do the (10+2)*5 procrastination hack.. is there anything?
[21:31] <lalalol> why does everyone advise to use Wicd instead of the normal network manager???
[21:31] <Spalis> http://www.freeps3.tv/?i=47470 hi check this out
[21:31] <erUSUL> MamboKing: boot option
[21:32] <mewshi> what else can I do to contribute?
[21:32] <Buhmillion> report bugs, translate if possible
[21:33] <MamboKing> erUSUL: thanks! googleing it right now
[21:33] <mmr> how do you guys backup your servers? plain old tar? amanda? any other software?
[21:33] <funkyHat> mmr: rsync
[21:33] <erUSUL> !boot | MamboKing
[21:33] <usser> tar, rsync
[21:33] <infid> how come open office's word processor shows some http://mysite.com as a hyperlink and some as just a mispelled word?
[21:33] <usser> mmr: nothing beats rsync
[21:33] <erUSUL> MamboKing: is max_loop=number ( 1- 255 )
[21:34] <marienz> usser: I kind of like rdiff-backup
[21:34] <mozir> !rm -rf | mozir
[21:34] <MamboKing> erUSUL: thanks I found an article describing exactly what I need!
[21:34] <mmr> you rsync the whole fs?
[21:34] <Buhmillion> mmr, bacula
[21:34] <mozir> Is someone here capable of grep fu?
[21:34] <MamboKing> yeah /dev/loop has a hard coded max of 1-255
[21:35] <smik> Samba is very slow, any other alternative to share with a Windows machine?
[21:35] <Buhmillion> nfs?
[21:35] <exigraff> mozir: probably, just ask
[21:35] <erUSUL> !ask | mozir
[21:35] <MamboKing> smik: aoe(ata over ethernet) www.winaoe.org
[21:35] <mmr> Buhmillion: why should i use bacula instead of rsync?
[21:35] <MamboKing> just create a blank dd image and then use vblade to serve it up
[21:35] <smik> MamboKing: must be via Wi-fi. Wireless
[21:35] <mozir> exigraff: Just wanted to know
[21:35] <Buhmillion> no real reason, use which ever
[21:35] <MamboKing> it will appear as a local drive
[21:36] <racecar56> be careful in rsync because sometimes it can automatically delete what's on the destination that isn't on the source
[21:36] <MamboKing> and function as one, the throughput will depend on your bandwidth
[21:36] <racecar56> that's happened to me
[21:37] <lalalol> why does everyone advise WICD???
[21:37] <mmr> hm, rsync seems more like something i would use for replicating servers data to achieve fault tolerance, right?
[21:39] <racecar56> i used rsync for backups
[21:39] <mozir> What is the Linux/Ubuntu/GCC equivalent of the functions "system" and "exit"?
[21:40] <iceroot> mozir: system and exit
[21:40] <usser> mozir: system and exit :)
[21:40] <mmr> are there a 'de facto' set of scripts that uses rsync for backup or everybody writes some in-house?
[21:40] <erUSUL> mozir: exit exist in posix/linux; system i dunno what it does
[21:40] <IdleOne> mmr: grsync
[21:40] <erUSUL> mmr: rsnapshot and rdiff-backup were already mentioned here
[21:40] <mozir> Then what do I have to include, because: "main.cpp:78: error: ‘exit’ was not declared in this scope"
[21:41] <mmr> erUSUL: thank you!
[21:41] <maelios> hello
[21:41] <mmr> IdleOne: ty!
[21:41] <lalalol> !answer | lalalol
[21:41] <maelios> are u bot?
[21:41] <lalalol> !wicd | lalalol
[21:41] <maelios> voice me <3
[21:41] <Out_Cold> maelios: the only useful bot in here is ubottu
[21:41] <maelios> !invo
[21:41] <maelios> !info
[21:41] <erUSUL> mozir: so is C++ no C
[21:41] <IdleOne> maelios: no voices in here. we are a choir
[21:41] <maelios> lol
[21:42] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > lalalol
[21:42] <arand> lalalol: use /msg ubottu !factoid instead
[21:42] <mozir> erUSUL: I ment g++, sorry
[21:42] <lalalol> ok
[21:42] <maelios> G++ is only for the real elite
[21:42] <lnostdal> hi, how do i remove pulseaudio from lucid?
[21:42] <maelios> 2600
[21:42] <lalalol> IdleOne, you might know this one, why does everyone advise WICD?
[21:42] <Out_Cold> lalalol: because it's an alternative to nm
[21:42] <sebsebseb> lnostdal: not easilly, and   not without effecting sound controls, that's how
[21:42] <erUSUL> !lucid  | maelios
[21:43] <IdleOne> lalalol: it works for a lot of people. If you dont have problems with nm-manager then don't go fixing what aint broke
[21:43] <lnostdal> sebsebseb, yeah, the sound controls don't work with pa anyhow; i gotta use alsamixer from the CLI
[21:43] <lalalol> Out_Cold, and why is it the best or better than nm?
[21:43] <lnostdal> sebsebseb, or well, they work ..  but most controls are missing
[21:43] <lalalol> IdleOne, im already using wicd :D
[21:43] <IdleOne> lalalol: ok then :)
[21:43] <liminal> hello
[21:44] <racecar56> hi
[21:44] <Out_Cold> lalalol: depends on your needs and preferences.. I like it because it's intuative, cli ready and very informative
[21:44] <lalalol> IdleOne, but i wonder why it is better than nm or even the best?
[21:44] <liminal> I just reinstalled my graphic card driver, and now my wifi has stoped working
[21:44] <liminal> im confused as hell
[21:44] <lalalol> Out_Cold, yeah, i like the info it gives, are there any others that give even more info?
[21:44] <liminal> can someone help me troubleshoot?
[21:44] <maelios> i like my linux in a window inside my windows 7 kk
[21:45] <IdleOne> maelios: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[21:45] <arand> maelios: Use a virtual machine
[21:45] <sebsebseb> lnostdal: There are tutorals on the web how to remove pulse audio in Ubuntu.  Plus I know of at least one distro, since I also use it, as well as Ubuntu sometimes these days, where can just disable pulse audio in it's control centre, and done, nice and simple.
[21:45] <Out_Cold> lalalol: i'm only familiar with nm and wicd. I'm sure there are others but those 2 stand out the most.
[21:45] <lalalol> ok Out_Cold, can i pm you 1 thing?
[21:45] <maelios> i want to submit some of my work
[21:45] <Out_Cold> sure
[21:45] <wise_crypt> !ot | maelios
[21:45] <maelios> sorz
[21:45] <lnostdal> sebsebseb, ok, which distro? .. i really need proper sound ..
[21:46] <lnostdal> been at this since 2008 -- tired of it
[21:46] <IdleOne> maelios: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[21:46] <infid> how come open office's word processor shows some http://mysite.com as a hyperlink and some as just a mispelled word?
[21:46] <iceroot> infid: because http:// is missing?
[21:46] <IdleOne> infid: /j #openoffice.org
[21:47] <liminal> can somone help me get my wifi working
[21:47] <liminal> im using 9.10
[21:47] <liminal> and its just stopped
[21:47] <brianherman> whats the problem
[21:47] <liminal> i just reinstalled a hardware driver for my graphic card
[21:47] <liminal> restarted the os
[21:47] <Inde147> Hey guys, I'm now trying to boot a 1998 comp from a ubuntu CD
[21:47] <liminal> and now i dont get any wifi
[21:48] <Inde147> Do I have to do something in BIOS?
[21:48] <wise_crypt> erUSUL: lots of wifi problem today
[21:48] <Inde147> Like, start from CDROM?
[21:48] <infid> IdleOne: thanks was wonderin what the channel name was
[21:48] <Inde147> or start from E?
[21:48] <Inde147> Or do I go into MDOS
[21:48] <Inde147> And go to E
[21:49] <Inde147> And type
[21:49] <sebsebseb> lnostdal: well apparantly it's ok to mention other distros in here with good enough reason and it's Mandriva.  PM for some more info if you want, since off topic really,  However this is in reply to your question
[21:49] <Inde147> Format:c
[21:49] <Inde147> ?
[21:49] <lnostdal> sebsebseb, ok, thanks
[21:49] <erUSUL> wise_crypt: allways :) sound; screen resolution and  wifi.
[21:49] <sebsebseb> lnostdal: on the subject of distros though, I suggest trying a few, and using what works well for you
[21:49] <Out_Cold> Inde147: you should set your computer to boot from cd. then follow the installation instructions.. you should not go into DOS or Windows
[21:49] <micw> hi
[21:49] <wise_crypt> erUSUL:  :)
[21:50] <Oer> Inde147, bios should be set on: boot from cd
[21:50] <Inde147> oer: thank you!
[21:50] <kmilo_> I just install an ubuntu but doesnt boot just go to a shell that says initramfs
[21:50] <wise_crypt> erUSUL:  not to mention grub
[21:50] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, does anyone here know about EyeFinity support in Linux Catalyst ATI drivers? Why is it required for 3-monitor setups?
[21:50] <erUSUL> yep
[21:51] <micw> i tried to setup a simple apache virtual host config. on other distros that worked fine: NameVirtualHost *:80 ... <VirtualHost *:80> ...
[21:51] <DavidJHeinrich> : i.e., from an article, says, "Once Eyefinity is supported under Linux, it will be possible to drive three displays  simultaneously from either of these graphics cards, but for now, only two connectors  can be used at a time."...why is this?
[21:51] <liminal> i need to trouble shoot my wifi card
[21:51] <Purpley> Hey if im root by default does anyone know how i can run a program with the root privelages?
[21:51] <h00k> !sudo | Purpley
[21:51] <micw> i always get an error: VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results
[21:51] <liminal> i think the hardware reinstall messed withe rugb
[21:51] <IdleOne> Purpley: not a good idea
[21:51] <liminal> grub
[21:51] <Q_Continuum> Is it possible to make a single installer that does x86 and x86-64 off one boot device without much difficulty?
[21:51] <Purpley> h00k im aware of sudo im in su on backtrack and its by default
[21:51] <wise_crypt> micw: j #ubuntu-server
[21:51] <Purpley> I need to ask a question but im banned from backtrack because im running xchat as root
[21:52] <IdleOne> Q_Continuum: http://prshah.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-to-create-ubuntu-all-in-one-dvd.html
[21:52] <h00k> Purpley: you might want to check backtrack's help and support, it isn't an official derivative.
[21:52] <micw> wise_crypt, thx
[21:52] <Purpley> h00k, Im quite aware of that but the command for what i need should be the same
[21:52] <sebsebseb> Purpley: backtrack is for security professionals
[21:52] <Out_Cold> Purpley: you just exit xchat, change your names to something other than root..
[21:52] <IdleOne> Purpley: that is because it is a BAD idea
[21:52] <wise_crypt> micw: no problem
[21:52] <Out_Cold> Purpley: in xchat..
[21:52] <sebsebseb> Purpley: if that's not you,  you shoudn't really be using it
[21:52] <felon> how to go about installing urban terror for ubuntu
[21:52] <felon> ?
[21:52] <h00k> Purpley: 1) it's a bad idea 2) this isn't an official derivative and we do not support it
[21:53] <erUSUL> felon: just download it; and uncompress it somewhere in your home
[21:53] <niks1602> motd
[21:53] <Q_Continuum> IdleOne, exactly what I was looking for, thanks!  (I'll make the ISO then use the USB Startup Disk Creator to put it on a USB stick)
[21:53] <erUSUL> felon: give exec permissions to the executable and double click on it
[21:53] <erUSUL> felon: for extra points create a launcher :)
[21:53] <Purpley> h00k, Did i not say I understand that im merely asking a question, assuming I was on ubuntu 9.10 what would you run in su to not give it elevated permissions?
[21:53] <tar-> I'm trying to watch a movie, but 10 minutes into the movie the sound disappears (using vlc), attempts to open file again still produces no sound - any ideas?
[21:54] <IdleOne> Q_Continuum: there is an issue with that grub4dos is old now. I don't know what you should use instead.
[21:54] <felon> download from where
[21:54] <brax> How would I get the source code for a game?
[21:54] <erUSUL> felon: Urban terror homepage
[21:54] <brax> It's open source and in the ubuntu software center.
[21:54] <erUSUL> felon: google knows it
[21:54] <guntbert> Purpley: thats a non issue here - please ask in the proper support channel
[21:54] <Scraphead> Is it possible to run an already installed win7 in VirtualBox? Or does it have to be in an image format?
[21:54] <erUSUL> brax: its homepage?
[21:55] <brax> erUSUL: Thanks.
[21:55] <erUSUL> Scraphead: #vbox
[21:55] <Scraphead> kk
[21:55] <Purpley> sigh, never mind then
[21:55] <globyoolahr> TAR I've had nnothing BUT souund trouble with ubuntu
[21:55] <liminal> how do i restart my network card?
[21:55] <liminal> wifi card
[21:56] <jricslima> olá! qual o comando para ver se o sistema não está corrompido?
[21:56] <xangua> !pt > jricslima
[21:56] <jricslima> I am not speak english
[21:57] <candy> which distro is good for offensive security?
[21:57] <maco> !br | jricslima
[21:57] <jricslima> foi mal
[21:57] <candy> jricslima, which language?
[21:57] <Out_Cold> candy: nubuntu or backtrack are both derivitives of ubuntu
[21:57] <wise_crypt> !topic | candy
[21:58] <candy> Out_Cold, how different  backtrack is from ubuntu?
[21:58] <wise_crypt> !ot
[21:58] <maco> candy: enough that we dont support it in here
[21:58] <liminal> can someone support me with my wifi8 issue
[21:59] <liminal> i think it just needs a swift kick
[21:59] <Out_Cold> liminal: start with iwconfig and pastebin the output
[21:59] <candy> maco, u mean its quite different?
[21:59] <binspace_> hello, I'm running 10.04. On 9.04 I could change the positions of the windows using the keypad (upper left, upper, upper right, etc). I cannot find the option in compiz on 10.04. Has it gone away?
[21:59] <h00k> candy: it's a derivative that isn't supported, and is quite different.
[21:59] <wise_crypt> liminal: try sudo shutdown -r now
[22:00] <xangua> !lucid > binspace_
[22:00] <ibuclaw> candy, this is a basic support channel for the main Ubuntu releases. Unofficial deriatives are not supported here
[22:00] <maco> candy: they ahve their own irc channel
[22:00] <binspace_> thanks
[22:00] <candy> ibuclaw, okei
[22:01] <boun> plop
[22:02] <ibuclaw> !hi > boun
[22:02] <liminal> it wants a time for shutdown
[22:02] <liminal> iwconfig didn't show anything out of the ordianbry
[22:02] <liminal> ordinary, apart from the card isnt seeing any wifi
[22:02] <Out_Cold> liminal: sudo shutdown now
[22:02] <ibuclaw> liminal, restart network card?
[22:03] <Out_Cold> or sudo shutdown -h -t now
[22:03] <Out_Cold> or sudo shutdown -h -t 0
[22:03] <Inde147> Alright, if so could walk me through this it would be AWESOME.
[22:03] <ibuclaw> liminal, I'd use:  sudo service networking restart
[22:03] <whomee> sudo telinit 0
[22:03] <liminal> but it could without any problem before i reinstalled my grpahiuc card drivers
[22:03] <wise_crypt> liminal: sudo reboot
[22:03] <Inde147> I have a CDROM in drive E of my computer, which currently runs Win98
[22:03] <liminal> and played in the grub
[22:03] <Inde147> The Win98 is glitchy as a ll hell
[22:03] <globbee> hold down the power button till it stops
[22:03] <Inde147> So I'm trying to install Ubuntu off a CDROM
[22:04] <Inde147> I told it to boot from  CDROM in Bios, which did not work
[22:04] <ibuclaw> Inde147, drive E ? :s
[22:04] <Inde147> ibuclaw: Allegedly
[22:04] <Inde147> ibuclaw: what should it be? :(
[22:05] <Out_Cold> good bye cruel world............
[22:05] <Out_Cold> haha j/k
[22:05] <ibuclaw> Inde147, oh, you are talking about Windows drives ... confused me for a moment. :)
[22:05] <openboxuser> how do you access the trash in u-light?
[22:05] <xangua> Inde147: how much ram does it has¿
[22:05] <Inde147> ibuclaw: yea, sorry
[22:05] <guntbert> openboxuser: what is u-light?
[22:05] <boun> by
[22:05] <Inde147> xangua: I don't know, how can I find out? :(
[22:05] <openboxuser> its a openbox version of ubuntu
[22:05] <h00k> !who
[22:06] <Inde147> xangua: I can boot in windows if you need me to, it *might* work
[22:06] <xangua> well it's yours Inde147...
[22:06] <ibuclaw> Inde147, how did you burn the CD?
[22:06] <Inde147> I used my mac
[22:06] <Inde147> Used the program Burn
[22:06] <Inde147> Put it in Data
[22:06] <Inde147> burned it using Joliet style
[22:06] <IdleOne> Inde147: hold down the C key with the cd in the drive and reboot
[22:07] <ibuclaw> Inde147, so if you open the CD for reading, do you see a bunch of files ?
[22:07] <liminal> just restarted the box again
[22:07] <liminal> now its working
[22:07] <liminal> werid werid werid
[22:07] <ibuclaw> liminal, you mean weird. :)
[22:07] <IdleOne> werid indeed
[22:07] <guntbert> !enter | Inde147
[22:07] <IdleOne> :)
[22:07] <wise_crypt> liminal: say thank you
[22:07] <hasenj> hi, I upgraded to lucid beta 2
[22:07] <hasenj> and now I can't run postgres 8.3
[22:07] <IdleOne> hasen Please /join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[22:07] <freezway> js: "i wonder..."
[22:07] <Andy-at-home> anyone in here run a non steam game server?
[22:07] <Inde147> ubottu: Sorry!
[22:08] <hasenj> IdleOne: ok
[22:08] <liminal> thank you for what?
[22:08] <IdleOne> !ot | Andy-at-home
[22:08] <liminal> my system is more fecked than ever
[22:08] <Inde147> IdleOne: I tried it, didn't do anything differently:(
[22:08] <IdleOne> Inde147: you selected Burn ISO image when burning?
[22:08] <Inde147> ibuclaw: I havn't opened it for running, should I try in Windows? I've been trying to boot from it.
[22:09] <globbee> those little tips help ubottu , thx, I'm new here
[22:09] <Inde147> IdleOne: There wasn't an option, so I assumed it did, maybe not?
[22:09] <wise_crypt> !language | liminal
[22:09] <IdleOne> Inde147: maybe not
[22:09] <ibuclaw> Inde147, I'd check the contents of the CD first
[22:09] <rafl> hi there. i've wrote a couple of patches for the linux kernel to fix the issues #418282 and #512192 and put them in the elantech_fw41 branch at git://github.com/rafl/linux-2.6.git - however, i don't particularly feel like creating a launchpad account to comment on the issue and getting others to test it. it'd be appreciated if one of you guys, who presumably already have an account, would add that repo url to the tickets.
[22:09] <Inde147> ibuclaw: Alright....
[22:10] <ibuclaw> Inde147, just name a few files/folders that you see
[22:11] <Inde147> ibuclaw: The file is called "ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso. It does not open. Does that mean I did it wrong?
[22:11] <ibuclaw> Inde147, that is on the CD?
[22:11] <h00k> Inde147: you'll need to burn that image to a CD
[22:11] <guntbert> rafl: thats not really on topic here - and anyway.... an ubuntu developper without a LP account -- ??
[22:11] <hdon> hi all. where is the source code repository for this project? https://launchpad.net/game
[22:11] <ibuclaw> Inde147, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:11] <Inde147> h00k: I'm looking at it from the cd
[22:11] <rafl> guntbert: oh, i'm sorry. is there another place i should be asking this?
[22:11] <ibuclaw> Inde147, then as far as I can tell, you did it wrong. =)
[22:12] <Inde147> ibuclaw: tried it, I'm on a school computer and DiskUtility is locked
[22:12] <Inde147> So I run Brun
[22:12] <h00k> Inde147: that means that you didn't burn the CD properly, then :(
[22:12] <rafl> guntbert: also, i'm not an ubuntu developer. just fixed that kernel issue for me and LP was the only place where i've seen other people with similar issues discussing it
[22:12] <kane77> hey, I'm looking for timer that can be used to do the (10+2)*5 procrastination hack.. is there anything?
[22:12] <Inde147> h00k: alright, thanks for the info, I'll try again :(
[22:12] <guntbert> rafl: create an account and submit the patch yourself
[22:12] <jzacsh> hello, anyone know a linux version of this page? (i tried changing permissions to 755 and deleting files -- no luck)   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Could_not_initialize_the_browser_security_component
[22:12] <h00k> Inde147: message ubottu !iso and there are nice instructions there
[22:12] <erUSUL> rafl: #ubuntu-devel ?
[22:13] <Inde147> h00k: I have no idea how to do that- Is that an irc thing? :(
[22:13] <h00k> !iso > Inde147
[22:13] <h00k> Inde147: there you are
[22:13] <zertu> hi
[22:13] <Inde147> ubottu: oh, I see now, sorry
[22:13] <zertu> how to install kde on ubuntu ?
[22:14] <rafl> erUSUL: ta
[22:14] <sebsebseb> zertu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:14] <xangua> zertu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:14] <ibuclaw> h00k, that info is useful for burning in Linux iirc.
[22:14] <IdleOne> ibuclaw: there are also links to windows tools iirc
[22:14] <ibuclaw> I usually refer people to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:14] <zertu> i don't  have kubuntu
[22:14] <LinuxGuy2009> I need to find out what file on the live cd contains the lines like "file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/iso/jaunty.iso quiet splash --" that the live session, and install only, menu selections use for booting. I need to be able to read them for a project I am working on for the community.
[22:14] <zertu> on my ubuntu ?
[22:15] <zertu> karmic
[22:15] <zertu> how to install kde on ubuntu karmic 9.10 ?
[22:15] <xangua> (16:14:07) xangua: zertu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:15] <IdleOne> zertu: like the way you were told up there
[22:15] <rodox> I have ubuntu 9.04 and need upgrade to 9.10 with cd image from ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso. It's possible or I need download the "alternate"
[22:15] <Spilak> hi my brother
[22:16] <IdleOne> !upgrade | rodox
[22:16] <wise_crypt> !info kde-desktop
[22:16] <guntbert> rodox: CD only upgrades require the alternate CD
[22:16] <ibuclaw> LinuxGuy2009, isolinux.cfg
[22:16] <wise_crypt> !info kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <IdleOne> wise_crypt: msg the bot
[22:17] <ibuclaw> LinuxGuy2009, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[22:17] <wise_crypt> IdleOne: sory
[22:17] <c3l> is it possible to install linux completely over a network? so that I dont have to use any physical installation medium, other than the server im getting the files from
[22:17] <LinuxGuy2009> ibuclaw: http://pastebin.org/174024
[22:17] <ibuclaw> LinuxGuy2009, invaluable information if you are making a remix
[22:17] <h00k> !pxe | c3l
[22:17] <LinuxGuy2009> ibuclaw: Opened it with gedit and it doesnt have that line
[22:17] <h00k> bah.
[22:17] <LinuxGuy2009> ibuclaw: ok ill check that out
[22:17] <Inde147> h00k: Alright, this time I mounted the ISO
[22:18] <h00k> !netinstall | c3l
[22:18] <c3l> h00k, ty =)
[22:18] <zertu> well i run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:18] <ibuclaw> LinuxGuy2009, having a look at that pastebin: include menu.cfg <-- have a look at that file
[22:18] <zertu> now it ask to choose between kdm or xdm ?
[22:18] <zertu> which on e i have to choose ?
[22:18] <IdleOne> kdm
[22:18] <LinuxGuy2009> ibuclaw: ok
[22:19] <rodox> guntbert: Don't I can make a local repository and download from the net?
[22:19] <zertu> what is the difference ?
[22:19] <zertu> between kdm and xdm ?
[22:19] <wise_crypt> !who | IdleOne
[22:19] <IdleOne> zertu: one will start kubuntu and the other xubuntu
[22:19] <IdleOne> wise_crypt: :P I know
[22:20] <rodox> IdleOne: I burn wrong image... and now?
[22:20] <guntbert> rodox: that is possible too (look for apt-mirror) but we are talking about a *lot* of space here
[22:20] <xangua> IdleOne: no, it won't > one will start kubuntu and the other xubuntu
[22:20] <IdleOne> rodox: download and burn correct image
[22:20] <IdleOne> xangua: ?
[22:20] <zertu> whichone is good ?
[22:21] <zertu> xubuntu or kubuntu ?
[22:21] <wise_crypt> all: bye all need some sleep now !!
[22:21] <IdleOne> zertu: hold on a  minute please
[22:21] <IdleOne> xangua: what did you mean?
[22:21] <rodox> IdleOne: my boss don't like this...
[22:22] <adac> is it possible to execute a script when a certain usb stick/hd is mounted?
[22:23] <linxeh> adac: I dont see why not, but without a bit of research I cant say how
[22:23] <betapi> is it possible to put a windows xp cd onto a usb from ubuntu?
[22:23] <IdleOne> zertu: you want to select kdm
[22:24] <xangua> betapi: ¿¿
[22:24] <guntbert> betapi: and boot from that? not as far as I know
[22:24] <IdleOne> xangua: please explain your comment ?
[22:24] <Oer> adac yes http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=904522
[22:24] <zertu> yes
[22:24] <zertu> tell me how much disk capacity it takes ?
[22:25] <zertu> on the disk to install kde ?
[22:25] <adac> Oer, linxeh k thx!
[22:25] <linxeh> betapi: you can iirc, but it isnt point and click
[22:25] <xangua> IdleOne: you said xdm will start xfce and kde will start kde; it doesn't matter what he chosses, he can select what desktop session start from any
[22:25] <linxeh> betapi: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5928902.html covers what is involved, but you'll have to figure out the commands yourself
[22:26] <IdleOne> xangua: so I was not wrong but wasn't right either
[22:26] <zertu> tell me how much disk capacity it takes to install kde ?
[22:26] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I installed/upgraded to the new 10.04 as an ungrade and it stalls on the ubuntu load screen I assume there was a grub error suggestions?
[22:26] <linxeh> betapi: you'll have to modify it to run the installer though etc
[22:27] <linxeh> betapi: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/08/27/make-a-bootable-usb-installer-for-windows-xp-vista-7-with-wint/ etc too
[22:27] <Inde147> Alright, I have a viable ISO file, mounted, and I can see files!
[22:27] <betapi> right.  probably just easier to buy an external cd drive
[22:27] <ibuclaw> Inde147, try booting it then =)
[22:27] <zertu> hello
[22:27] <zertu> anyone here ?
[22:27] <xangua> !lucid > U-b-u-n-t-u
[22:27] <limen> no
[22:27] <zertu> tell me how much disk capacity it takes to install kde ?
[22:27] <IdleOne> !info kubuntu-desktop > zertu
[22:28] <bastid_raZor> zertu: about 400MB or so..
[22:28] <zertu> my disk is full
[22:28] <Milligan> pt
[22:28] <Milligan> ops
[22:28] <zertu> how to remove package
[22:28] <linux_is_my_hero> someone remind me again where the list of games is on the ubuntu site please :-)
[22:28] <zertu> if i run this
[22:28] <zertu> ~$ sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:28] <IdleOne> !games > linux_is_my_hero
[22:28] <zertu> what to do ?
[22:28] <IdleOne> zertu: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:29] <ibuclaw> IdleOne, no, I think you were just plain wrong IMO... The DM is just a graphical frontend for a login. It is capable of loading any sort of session (from openbox and xmonad to gnome and kde).
[22:29] <linux_is_my_hero> IdleOne: thanks! ;-)
[22:29] <Switch10> zertu: sudo apt-get purge <package>
[22:29] <Teknical> !games > Teknical
[22:29] <IdleOne> ibuclaw: ok. thank you for the clarification :)
[22:29] <Inde147> I have only 160 mb RAM- what version of Linux should I get?
[22:29] <xangua> Inde147: xubuntu mayde¿¿ lubuntu is still beta
[22:30] <zertu> nothing work
[22:30] <Switch10> Inde147: xubuntu or lubuntu
[22:30] <Inde147> xangua: thank you
[22:30] <zertu> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:30] <zertu> dpkg: failed to write status record about `amarok-utils' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[22:30] <ibuclaw> IdleOne, also, I suggest you have a look at xdm before you suggest it, it is very baroque. (and ugly). Hence Xubuntu uses GDM.
[22:30] <limen> I have a problem with playing a DVD-movie. The movie is a Frinds DVD. I've installed all possible codecs but aren't able to play the DVD.  Anyone got any ideas?
[22:30] <linux_is_my_hero> Inde147: what kind of computer do you have?
[22:30] <gebUK> finally on wifi
[22:31] <zertu> for 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' dpkg: failed to write status record about `amarok-utils' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[22:31] <IdleOne> ibuclaw: I suggested kdm as it was one of the choices presented to me
[22:31] <gebUK> brb
[22:31] <zertu> what i have to do ?
[22:31] <Inde147> linux_is_my_hero: CyrixInstead
[22:31] <ibuclaw> IdleOne, two better light alternatives are LXDM (not quite finished) and SLiM (not very good PAM support) - but each have their own issues (as noted).
[22:31] <linux_is_my_hero> Inde147: do you have any slots for more dimms?
[22:31] <Inde147> linux_is_my_hero: I... don't know?
[22:32] <Inde147> linux_is_my_hero: link to an info page please?
[22:32] <Lumee1> hi
[22:32] <linux_is_my_hero> Inde147: i can find out for you, hold on
[22:33] <Lumee1> i'm trying to do: "nc -l -p 6666 -u" on lucid and it doesn't work, I think netcast is broken. Can anybody check if this command works on karmic?
[22:33] <mentok> !lucid
[22:33] <mentok> 29th..dammit.
[22:33] <zertu> plz
[22:33] <zertu> help
[22:33] <zertu> for 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' dpkg: failed to write status record about `amarok-utils' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[22:33] <zertu> for 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' dpkg: failed to write status record about `amarok-utils' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[22:33] <FloodBot2> zertu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <IdleOne> !language > mentok
[22:34] <zertu> ok
[22:34] <h00k> Lumee1: -l isn't a valid flag for netcat. Check your syntax
[22:34] <mentok> my apologies.
[22:34] <Lumee1> h00k: -l is for listen, create a server
[22:34] <h00k> Lumee1: oh, there it is.
[22:34] <zertu> there is no pv
[22:34] <zertu> msg
[22:37] <ibuclaw> zertu, "No space left on device" that be your answer
[22:38] <bastid_raZor> zertu: just a guess by you may need to delete all the packages you downloaded -- /var/cache/apt/archives/ -- then run the command to let apt-get know it has space but nothing to install.
[22:38] <zertu> yes my question is how to install kde
[22:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone know what this could mean unit: uread-other main process (597) terminted with status 4
[22:39] <bastid_raZor> zertu: if you don't have the available space then you either do a fresh install of kubuntu or you don't.
[22:39] <liminal> hello
[22:39] <liminal> I think im having problems with my xserver
[22:39] <ibuclaw> liminal, what can you see?
[22:39] <bastid_raZor> U-b-u-n-t-u: for 10.04/lucid discussion/support you should /join #ubuntu+1
[22:39] <Daijoubu> Is there anyone who uploads HD movies on Youtube? I can't get any movie to be accepted on youtube when using libx264 codec :(
[22:39] <linux_is_my_hero> Inde147: sorry to inform u that even the ubuntu netbook remix requires 512mb of ram
[22:39] <liminal> i see applications crashing all over the place.
[22:39] <zertu> i got two partition
[22:39] <liminal> for no real reason
[22:40] <cjay554> Daijoubu, is ur video under 10 mins? i use openshot to convert to HD youtube
[22:40] <zertu> first one is where i got the system installation
[22:40] <Inde147> linux_is_my_hero: I'm downloading Lunbutu
[22:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> bastid_raZor, I assume this could be a question for ANY dist
[22:40] <zertu> i want to install kde  on the 2 partition which is free
[22:40] <ibuclaw> liminal, try running one of the applications from a terminal
[22:40] <zertu> how to do ?
[22:40] <bastid_raZor> U-b-u-n-t-u: but you're on 10.04 which means that is where you should be asking.
[22:40] <linux_is_my_hero> i just looked at ubuntu netbook remix and i like the gui better than gnome so im considering trying it...:-)
[22:40] <edbian> I'm looking for a screensaver that is more functional.  I'd like one that shows the current weather, the time, a calendar, maybe a world map.  Is there one out there?
[22:40] <Daijoubu> cjay554 i'm using exactly the same program and i'm testing with very short video and youtube fails to conver it :( is it ok to PM you ?
[22:40] <ibuclaw> liminal, also, open your Home directory, and press Ctrl+H . Then look for a .xsession-errors file
[22:40] <U-b-u-n-t-u> bastid_raZor, if the question applies to any dist then its not a 10.04 specific question
[22:41] <shashike> hey guys!!!!
[22:41] <Inde147> linux_is_my_hero: Lubuntu claims to be able to run on 128 mb RAM
[22:41] <zertu> i want to install kde  on the 2 partition which is free
[22:41] <zertu> how to do ?
[22:41] <imanc> hey shashike!!!!!\
[22:41] <PyroFX> hey everybody
[22:41] <h00k> Daijoubu: perhaps check youtube's agreements on what they accept for codecs
[22:41] <IdleOne> zertu: burn a cd and install to that partition
[22:41] <bastid_raZor> zertu: burn a kubuntu install disk and install.. but you'll need room to download the install cd as well.
[22:41] <shashike> i know ubuntu 10.04 is just around the corner.. i was just wandering what to install 32bit vs 64 bit?? i have a 64bit system btw
[22:41] <zertu> no
[22:42] <zertu> i want to do like this
[22:42] <zertu> apt-get install kde