[07:30] <tsdgeos> autopilot still not passing when it's not hanging :/
[07:31] <tsdgeos> seems the card dednick and me did last sprint may need resurrection
[07:41] <Saviq> tsdgeos, FWIW two of those are new from dednick
[07:41] <tsdgeos> so we kind of fixed the olds and sneaked new wrong ones?
[07:41] <tsdgeos> :D
[07:41] <Saviq> yeah
[07:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, so yeah, "good" news confirmed, got it to crash with NO_REGALLOC
[07:44] <Saviq> I *think*, although the .crash's ProcEnviron doesn't list it :/
[07:44] <Saviq> ah but apport actually strips the environ
[07:45] <Saviq> yup, job still has it
[07:47] <tsdgeos> :)
[07:48] <tsdgeos> tsdgeos_work@xps:~$ du -hs /home/tsdgeos_work/.cache/ubuntuimages/
[07:48] <tsdgeos> 14G     /home/tsdgeos_work/.cache/ubuntuimages/
[07:48] <tsdgeos> lol
[07:49]  * tsdgeos recovers some easy space
[07:50] <Saviq> tsdgeos, `ubuntu-device-flash --clean-cache touch` FTW
[07:50] <tsdgeos> ubuntu-device-flash is too obnoxious over the command line arguments order
[07:51] <tsdgeos> couldn't get it to work
[07:51] <tsdgeos> tsdgeos_work@xps:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --clean-cache
[07:51] <tsdgeos> DEPRECATED: Implicit 'touch' subcommand assumed
[07:51] <tsdgeos> unknown flag `clean-cache'
[07:51] <tsdgeos> tsdgeos_work@xps:~$ ubuntu-device-flash touch --clean-cache
[07:51] <tsdgeos> unknown flag `clean-cache'
[07:53] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, you need "touch" at the end
[07:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, some args are pre-subcommand, others ar post-subcommand,  and the implicit "touch" subcommand is, as stated ↑ deprecated (even though in this case it should work)
[08:32] <tsdgeos> Saviq: so you basically start & stop until it crashes?
[08:34] <tsdgeos> i'm also a bit confused as to what the shellRotation branch does
[08:34] <tsdgeos> should it actually rotate the shell
[08:34] <tsdgeos> ?
[08:35] <tsdgeos> because i can't get the dash nor the launcher to rotate
[08:35] <tsdgeos> or this is only for N7?
[08:44] <Saviq> tsdgeos, launch an app
[08:44] <Saviq> tsdgeos, dash is portrait
[08:44] <Saviq> tsdgeos, and yeah, it just dies on start 50% of the time or so
[08:46] <tsdgeos> it dies on stop here
[08:47] <tsdgeos> but not on start :/
[08:55] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, on stop reliably, on start less so
[08:55] <Saviq> tsdgeos, how you launching? upstart or trying to get it under gdb?
[08:56] <tsdgeos> i was trying upstart
[08:56] <tsdgeos> but if you have better suggestions
[08:56] <tsdgeos> i just want it to crash once :D
[08:56] <Saviq> upstart's fine, but "kill -9 `pidof unity8`" instead of initctl stop
[08:56] <Saviq> tsdgeos, this way you won't need to fight with apport/whoopsie
[08:57] <Saviq> and probably stop unity8-dash and maliit-server to not crash
[09:11] <tsdgeos> Saviq: which phone are you using?
[09:11] <Saviq> tsdgeos, mako
[09:11] <tsdgeos> i can't still reproduce it not even once :/
[09:11] <tsdgeos> same here
[09:12] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you got unity8 from demo-stuff?
[09:12] <tsdgeos> yeah
[09:12] <Saviq> hmf
[09:12] <tsdgeos> i checked that the shell rotates when rotating the webbrowser
[09:12] <tsdgeos> that's it, no?
[09:12] <Saviq> yeah
[09:13] <Saviq> you could try running the ap tests in a loop until it fails (but it also rarely fails without unity8 crashing)
[09:13] <tsdgeos> my problem is
[09:13] <tsdgeos> i can get it to enter the "dbus deadlock" quite easily
[09:13] <tsdgeos> so any kind of looping is useless
[09:13] <tsdgeos> since it will get stuck in there
[09:14] <Saviq> tsdgeos, interesting, I'm not getting that so often ;)
[09:16] <Saviq> tsdgeos, maybe try with my screen+gdb upstart hack, gdb should be enough I think to kick the dbus lock away, and then when it happens you got it under gdb already
[09:17] <Saviq> see my big comment in https://trello.com/c/lAudAZVp/40-13-shell-rotation-mp-review-iteration-on-feature-and-autopilot-tests
[09:28] <tsdgeos> and now suddenly i'm getting it more
[09:28] <tsdgeos> :D
[10:31] <Cimi> mzanetti, I'm having a look at recency for the spread, how would you recommend storing the list of apps and storing screenshots?
[10:31] <mzanetti> Cimi, in qtmir
[10:31] <mzanetti> Cimi, ApplicationManager.cpp
[10:31] <Cimi> ok
[10:32] <mzanetti> Cimi, basically what needs to happen is that on startup the ApplicationInfo objects are stuffed into the ApplicationManage again
[10:33] <Cimi> mzanetti, ApplicationInfo is stored on the disk?
[10:33] <mzanetti> Cimi, but with status "suspended" (or stopped - can't recall which one is for "not running" but still running)
[10:33] <mzanetti> Cimi, no. they are not yet...
[10:34] <mzanetti> Cimi, on shutdown you'd need to store the appids for all the existing applicationinfo objects
[10:34] <mzanetti> Cimi, and on startup create new objects for each stored appid
[10:34] <Cimi> ok
[10:34] <mzanetti> Cimi, there is already a branch that adds gsettings to the applicationmanager
[10:34] <mzanetti> Cimi, in case you are going to use gsettings, you might want to build on top of that
[10:35] <Cimi> mzanetti, want to use gsettings?
[10:35] <Cimi> i'm fine with that
[10:35] <mzanetti> my first guess would be yes. I think Saviq said we should talk to cwayne if he's fine with that
[10:35] <mzanetti> in regard to customization
[10:36] <Cimi> launcher uses gsettings, right?
[10:36] <mzanetti> yes
[10:36] <mzanetti> yeah, seems to be our standard mean of storing things... so...
[10:36] <Cimi> mzanetti, I used it with gtk in the past too
[10:37] <Cimi> so is there probably for legacy, not sure the alternative qt has
[10:37] <Cimi> mzanetti, btw, which is that branch? :)
[10:38] <Cimi> mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/qtmir/exception-settings/+merge/252921 ?
[10:38] <mzanetti> Cimi, yep
[10:39] <Saviq> mzanetti, Cimi, I'm only worried gsettings could be too heavy, or that it can't store enough data when someone has 100 apps open
[10:39] <mzanetti> Saviq, are there limits?
[10:39] <Saviq> mzanetti, that's what I don't know :)
[10:39] <mzanetti> right...
[10:39] <Cimi> Saviq, we can limit those 100 anyway
[10:40] <Saviq> Cimi, what if the limit is 10? :P
[10:40] <Cimi> lol
[10:40] <mzanetti> well, it isn't 10
[10:40] <mzanetti> otherwise the launcher wouldn't work
[10:40] <Saviq> I know, shh!
[10:40] <mzanetti> :D
[10:40] <mzanetti> but ok... Cimi I guess you'd need to find out if there are limits, and what they are
[10:41] <Cimi> mzanetti, I was googling already
[10:41] <mzanetti> also some load test with storing/reading some 100 appids or so
[10:42] <Saviq> yeah, that's what I'm most worried
[10:43] <Saviq> having to construct/store a list on every focus change
[10:43] <mzanetti> Cimi, ^
[10:45] <Saviq> Cimi, mzanetti, and then there's looking forward towards desktop, this is basically a "restore session" feature, will we need to store more details, like window state/geometry, or do we rely on the current window geometry restore (or on Mir, for that matter?)
[10:45] <Saviq> greyback_, FYI ↑ (this is about storing spread)
[10:45] <Cimi> "Reads and writes can be considered to be non-blocking. Reading settings with GSettings is typically extremely fast: on approximately the same order of magnitude (but slower than) a GHashTable lookup. Writing settings is also extremely fast in terms of time to return to your application, but can be extremely expensive for other threads and other processes. Many settings backends (including dconf) have lazy initialisation whi
[10:45] <Cimi> ch means in the common case of the user using their computer without modifying any settings a lot of work can be avoided. For dconf, the D-Bus service doesn't even need to be started in this case. For this reason, you should only ever modify GSettings keys in response to explicit user action."
[10:46] <Cimi> https://developer.gnome.org/gio/stable/GSettings.html
[10:46] <mzanetti> Cimi, I don't think the geometry settings should be in this place
[10:46] <Saviq> yeah, so gsettings/dconf is optimized for reading, not writing
[10:46] <Cimi> exactly
[10:47] <Saviq> which is why I'm not totally sure this is the right thing to do
[10:47] <Saviq> we can still read the default set from gsettings, but that's it
[10:47] <greyback_> Saviq: why save for every focus change? Why not just on shutdown?
[10:47] <Cimi> greyback_, if the phone dies/crashes
[10:47] <Saviq> greyback_, yeah, ↑
[10:47] <Cimi> maybe not on focus change, maybe on app load/quit
[10:48] <Cimi> but then we want the ordering...
[10:48] <Saviq> well, if we lose ordering then maybe that's not as bad
[10:48] <Saviq> if we at least have the correct set
[10:49] <Saviq> MacSlow, so... tsdgeos to the rescue... `rm -R ~/.cache/QML` and no crash any more...
[10:49] <Saviq> bug #1444937
[10:49] <MacSlow> Saviq, oh ha...
[10:50] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, how did you figure out that one?
[10:50]  * MacSlow tries right away
[10:50] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: actually i didn't, the Qt guys kind of did
[10:50] <tsdgeos> saying "this is impossible to happen"
[10:51] <tsdgeos> and then i thought, "oh noes, the cache is making the impossible possible"
[10:51] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, haha... nothing is impossible :)
[10:51] <Cimi> Saviq, what else can we use to store? remember we also want to store the application screenshots
[10:52] <Mirv> that's why my script always clears QML cache before starting to test a PPA
[10:52] <MacSlow> Mirv, tsdgeos: I'll put that in my ~/.bashrc or something like that
[10:53] <Saviq> Mirv, please comment on bug above ↑ if you have something to add, I really think we need something that just does it, we'll be forgetting it otherwise
[10:53] <greyback_> Saviq: Cimi: well saving to gsettings for every focus change sounds heavy-handed to me, writing to a file might be just as good
[10:53] <Saviq> MacSlow, so yeah, 8 successful runs of the rotation tests in a row, but I did get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10832212/ at some point
[10:54] <Mirv> Saviq: commented
[10:54] <MacSlow> Saviq, ah... that's new
[10:54] <Saviq> greyback_, I'm thinking DB, updating just a focus timestamp
[10:54] <Saviq> greyback_, we already have a DB for the geometry
[10:54] <Mirv> my guess is that app upgrades are being taken care of, but better be sure
[10:55] <Cimi> how will the images be stored? hard drive?
[10:55] <Saviq> Cimi, where else? printouts? :P
[10:55] <Cimi> Saviq, in a db
[10:55] <mzanetti> Saviq, https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/fix-dnd-cancelling/+merge/256462
[10:55] <Saviq> Cimi, db not on hard drive? ;)
[10:55] <Cimi> Saviq, at that point, we can use a naming conversion to store appId, screenshot, timestamp
[10:55] <Cimi> Saviq, ouch, I meant file :D
[10:56] <Mirv> tsdgeos: FYI I'm doing another qtbase landing with arale workaround for black browser tabs, while waiting for the DBus one. after it has landed, we can start considering whether to land the current pile of patches to vivid-rtm PPA only. but we need the final upstream solution anyway sooner or later to w.
[10:56] <Cimi> if we save the images as files, we can name them in a way that we don't need anything else
[10:57] <Saviq> Cimi, but you'd then have to rename them on focus changes
[10:58] <Saviq> Cimi, and then either finding the file for display or sorting would be weird, because you either have to slap a timestamp at the front or the back
[10:58] <mzanetti> geez. all my launchers in a bad state right now :D
[11:00] <Saviq> mzanetti, let's just hope that's really the only reason this happens
[11:01] <mzanetti> yeah
[11:01] <greyback_> Saviq: sure, that works, but that db lives in unity8 atm, and I don't think it belongs in qtmir
[11:02] <Cimi> Saviq, at the front, they are ordered, no?
[11:02] <Cimi> ah but removing them is complicated, yeah
[11:02] <Cimi> Saviq, but we care less about removing apps, if is slower
[11:03] <Saviq> Cimi, well, unlinking a file isn't complicated
[11:03] <Cimi> Saviq, is good to have fast app loading, less app killin
[11:03] <Saviq> Cimi, the only bit that'd be weird is finding the screenshot file for an app, you'd need to glob it
[11:03] <Cimi> we load an app, we store a screenshot with timestamp-appId.png
[11:04] <tsdgeos> Mirv: yeah, at some point thiago convinced himself to try to install KDE Frameworks 5 on his heavily patched Qt and reproduce the problem directly instead of using me as a proxy
[11:04] <Cimi> when we close the appId, spread will remove *appId.png, no?
[11:04] <tsdgeos> so it may happen sooner than later
[11:04] <Saviq> greyback_, did I say anything about qtmir? :)
[11:05] <greyback_> Saviq: ok so
[11:06] <Saviq> Cimi, yeah, the * part is what worries me
[11:06] <Saviq> Cimi, but more for loading than for removing
[11:08] <Saviq> like I can imagine we'll be destroying the app delegates (if we're not already), would we then not lose the filename when we need to bring it back?
[11:08] <Saviq> mzanetti, greyback_, where are we storing the half-res screenshots now, for apps that got OOM-killed? in mem?
[11:09] <mzanetti> yes
[11:09] <greyback_> Saviq: in memory
[11:09] <Saviq> ok we need to offload those to disk too
[11:09] <mzanetti> and also on top of the surface. imo that should be baked into the mirsurfaceitem and be transparent to the shell
[11:10] <Saviq> Gerry disagrees ↑ ;)
[11:10] <mzanetti> yeah :D
[11:10] <mzanetti> well, don't think so
[11:11] <Saviq> MacSlow, some 20 successful runs now
[11:11] <mzanetti> at least some few weeks back he didn't
[11:11] <greyback_> darn ctrl+d and multimonitor
[11:11] <mzanetti> :)
[11:11] <Saviq> MacSlow, (or my loop isn't doing a good job at detecting failures)
[11:12] <davmor2> Saviq: kgunn: we seem to be getting file:///usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity8/qml/Dash/createCardComponent:132:1: QML Label: Binding loop detected for property "height" on arale is this just because of the drivers or is it something else?
[11:12] <Saviq> davmor2, we're getting this outisde of arale just as well
[11:12] <Saviq> davmor2, has nothing to do with graphics
[11:12] <Saviq> MacSlow, in any case, it's time to give this all up for review
[11:12] <davmor2> Saviq: I've not seen it on krillin for a while
[11:13] <Saviq> davmor2, it's just a warning
[11:13] <Saviq> davmor2, and is timing-related, which might be why you're not seeing it always
[11:13] <Saviq> MacSlow, and you try and see if you can fix http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10832212/
[11:13] <davmor2> Saviq: fair enough we have a regerssion test for it and it failed on arale is all
[11:14] <Saviq> davmor2, you have a regression test for a warning line? :D
[11:14] <MacSlow> Saviq, +1
[11:14] <Saviq> davmor2, or is there an actual visual artefact of this?
[11:14] <davmor2> Saviq: it's more that it appears when the screen stutters between scopes
[11:14] <Saviq> MacSlow, just to be clear: you don't need silo 004, just demo-stuff
[11:14] <davmor2> swiping between scopes even
[11:14] <MacSlow> Saviq, sure... I'll MP it before lunch
[11:15] <Saviq> davmor2, just to be clear: not a regression :)
[11:15] <Saviq> davmor2, we've never "fixed" all the reasons for the stutter
[11:16] <davmor2> Saviq: that's fine then
[11:20] <MacSlow> Saviq, will the demo-stuff bits also be moved into proper MPs, thus these can be states as prerequisites for the shellRotation MP?
[11:20] <Saviq> MacSlow, everything in there is MP'd afaict
[11:22] <Saviq> https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations/+merge/242213
[11:22] <Saviq> MacSlow, see description ↑
[11:24] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok
[11:24] <Saviq> ok not everything is MP'd, will talk to dandrader when he shows up
[11:24] <tsdgeos> :D i did so many "wrong" patches to qt quick text item that the reviewer actually wrote the correct patch himself :D
[11:24] <tsdgeos> guess it's not that bad that my prodding got him to write it
[11:24] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, :)
[11:25] <Saviq> MacSlow, do you know where "unsupported orientation TOP-DOWN. skipped." comes from?
[11:26] <Saviq> we should get rid of that print
[11:26] <Saviq> /food
[11:27] <MacSlow> Saviq, from the test itself... the fake-sensor/device does not allow the "top-down" orientation.
[11:28] <MacSlow> and I wanted that to show... so whoever happens to watch the test and wonders why only 3 of 4 possible cases were exercised sees at least some info
[11:28] <Saviq> MacSlow, interesting, anyway, it should not be a print() or whatever it is, but a log instead (see process_helpers.py for example of how to use the logger)
[11:28] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok... will change that
[12:10] <Saviq> Cimi, mzanetti, so, since the screenshot bit should be disconnected from the spread memory bit, I'd say screenshots should be saved to $cacheDir/app_shots/$app_id.png, with the shell not knowing whether it's showing a harddrive screenshot, an in-memory one, or the app surface
[12:11] <mzanetti> IMO, yes
[12:11] <Saviq> Cimi, mzanetti, spread set we should store in the shell's window geometry Db, as a {focus_timestamp, app_id} tuple
[12:11] <mzanetti> basicall the MirSurfaceItem paints a surface... wherever that comes from, it shouldn't care
[12:12] <Saviq> falling back to a gsetting if Db is empty, for customization purposes
[12:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, will that work fine with splash screens though?
[12:13] <mzanetti> Saviq, doesn't really matter, does it?
[12:13] <mzanetti> hmm...
[12:13] <Saviq> mzanetti, I'm just asking - as long as qtmir handles the screenshots (i.e. deletes them when user closes an app)
[12:14] <mzanetti> Saviq, well, the splash is a bit different anyways
[12:14] <Saviq> then the first app frame might come from either shot or app for real
[12:14] <Saviq> and that will hide splash screen
[12:14] <mzanetti> yep
[12:17] <mzanetti> Saviq, if the phone is rebooted, then you're saying the shell should look up it's settings and call ApplicationManager.startApplicationStopped(appId) for each one?
[12:17] <mzanetti> its, even
[12:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, I think we should add API to tell AppMan all of them at once
[12:18] <mzanetti> why not just keeping this inside the appmanager?
[12:19] <Saviq> mzanetti, I don't think greyback_ wants that in qtmir
[12:19] <mzanetti> but all the rest in this regard is in qtmir too
[12:19] <mzanetti> well, in the applicationmanager model
[12:20] <mzanetti> i.e. the shell says startApplication and qtmir transparently stops it. why should the shell then suddenly care about stopped/vs running?
[12:20] <Saviq> mzanetti, oh no, sure it shouldn't
[12:21] <Saviq> mzanetti, that's why I'm saying AppMan.restoreApps(list_of_apps) or something
[12:21] <Saviq> mzanetti, then appman will *really* only launch the topmost app, or even none, until it's focused
[12:21] <Saviq> but it will populate the app model
[12:22] <mzanetti> mhm... worksforme
[12:23] <Saviq> it's the list_of_apps I don't think greyback_ wants in qtmir, and I'm fine with that
[12:24] <Saviq> and we can relatively easily do AppMan.restoreApps(db.count > 0 ? db.list_of_apps : gsettings.default_list_of_apps)
[12:24] <mzanetti> yeah... fine with that too I guess...
[12:28] <Cimi> ok
[12:29]  * Saviq writes down in description
[12:30] <MacSlow> Saviq, I've changed the shell-rotaion test to use logger instead of print and added description and commit-message. Before flipping the switch to "needs review" I'm now looking into the assertion-mismatch issue.
[12:33] <Saviq> MacSlow|lunch, tx
[12:44] <Saviq> Cimi, mzanetti, so the only remaining question, I think, is first boot screenshots
[13:39] <Saviq> MacSlow, I wonder, could the failure just be a timing thing? you're using assertThat, you don't give any time for things to settle maybe?
[13:40] <Saviq> dandrader, hey, could you please make sure all shellRotation-related branches are MP'd and in Needs Review (and trunks merged for good measure)
[13:50] <dandrader> Saviq, ok. So cleaning the QML cache solves the crashes afterall?
[13:50] <Saviq> dandrader, yeah
[13:50] <dandrader> Saviq, is that ricmm's QML cache thingy?
[13:51] <Saviq> dandrader, yeah, it doesn't know when plugin ABI changes so doesn't invalidate atm
[13:52] <dandrader> hmm
[13:56] <dandrader> Saviq, mzanetti, MacSlow, anything against squashing shellRotation's commit history?
[13:57] <dandrader> MacSlow, can I already merge you AP work into ~unity-team/shellRotation?
[13:57] <Saviq> dandrader, rebasing never a nice thing to do in bzr ;)
[13:57] <mzanetti> I don't see a reason *for* it
[13:57] <Saviq> dandrader, I just added it as a separate MP o top of yours
[13:57] <Saviq> https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity8/shellRotation/+merge/256493
[13:58] <Saviq> dandrader, and thought it could remain like that
[13:59] <dandrader> mzanetti, Saviq, ok, I will keep the history then.... For the record: I squashed shellRotation's history many times already. Otherwise it would be loooong and confusing list of commits and merges
[14:00] <mzanetti> I know you did that
[14:00] <dandrader> mzanetti, :)
[14:00] <mzanetti> I was spending half an hour merging each time
[14:02] <dandrader> mzanetti, it's fun, right? :)
[14:02] <mzanetti> totally :)
[14:03] <dandrader> history gets particularly messy every time a split part of shellRotation's diff onto a separate MP that gets merged to trunk
[14:07] <MacSlow> dandrader, basically yes...
[14:07] <MacSlow> dandrader, there's assert-mismatch failure still (happening ~ 1/15 times)
[14:08] <MacSlow> dandrader, which I'm currently looking into
[14:08] <MacSlow> dandrader, but I can do that against ~unity-team/shellRotation too
[14:08] <MacSlow> dandrader, cleaning up branches is always a good idea
[14:11] <Saviq> MacSlow, any reason why http://paste.ubuntu.com/10833276/ would be wrong?
[14:12] <Saviq> I'm up to 24 successful runs in a row of those two tests now
[14:13] <MacSlow> Saviq, nope... looks acceptable to me
[14:13] <MacSlow> Saviq, I'll add that to my branch for both tests...
[14:14] <MacSlow> Saviq, I got the mismatch for test_fake_sensor too
[14:14] <dandrader> this patch improves readability that's for sure
[14:14] <Saviq> yeah not sure why the tmp_a, tmp_o...
[14:14] <mzanetti> dandrader, btw. I was reading through the shellrotation branch today
[14:14] <mzanetti> dandrader, only question I had was: is the Commandlineparser changes supposed to show up in there?
[14:14] <mzanetti> or is that just a prereq missing to the other commandlineparser branch?
[14:15] <dandrader> mzanetti, yes, working on it at this very moment
[14:15] <MacSlow> Saviq, dandrader: missing code-clean up
[14:16] <mzanetti> dandrader, perfect. I think I'm good with the code then
[14:17] <dandrader> mzanetti, just resubmitted. it now has lp:~dandrader/unity8/unityCommandLineParser as a prereq
[14:18] <mzanetti> cool
[14:26] <dandrader> mzanetti, tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/ddaImprovements/+merge/255896 has been upated as well. The remaining Launcher jumpiness and the failing qmltests have been fixed
[14:26] <MacSlow> Saviq, current issue... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10833349
[14:26] <mzanetti> dandrader, awesomes
[14:27] <tsdgeos> dandrader: k, i think i'll get to it later today
[14:28] <Saviq> MacSlow, not a problem in your branch, this happens from time to time still
[14:28] <MacSlow> Saviq, it's not a direct issue of the shell-rotation test itself, but...
[14:28] <MacSlow> ah ok
[14:29] <Saviq> MacSlow, after 38 runs I got http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10833372/ here, but wouldn't exclude some PEBKAC error like I touched the phone or something
[14:38] <MacSlow> Saviq, I've seen that once too today
[14:49] <Saviq> MacSlow, so basically IIUC that means the fake sensor data didn't cause it to switch orientations?
[14:50] <MacSlow> Saviq, I can take some time... sometimes...
[14:50] <MacSlow> but the 15 sec timeout is already nasty
[14:51] <MacSlow> I don't think we should up that even more.
[14:53] <MacSlow> Saviq, at some point I wondered if we should even keep the isolated fake_sensor_test... it is used/exercised in the app-rotation test anyway
[14:53] <MacSlow> Saviq, and never seen it (fake-sensor) fail there yet
[15:04] <dandrader> greyback_, can you top-approve https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations/+merge/242213 ?
[15:06] <greyback_> dandrader:  - g++-4.9:native,    + g++-4.9,   <- why that change?
[15:06] <Saviq> because recipes hate it ;)
[15:11] <tsdgeos> dednick: there's a very weeeeeeeeeeeird thing
[15:11] <tsdgeos> the first QDBusPendingCallWatcher of your branch seem to never be deleted
[15:11] <tsdgeos> even if the subsequent ones are
[15:11] <tsdgeos> and deleteLater is just called fine on them
[15:12] <tsdgeos> dednick: is it possible that those are run before we have a qapplication ?
[15:12] <tsdgeos> or a loop running
[15:12] <tsdgeos> ?
[15:12] <tsdgeos> probably
[15:13]  * tsdgeos checks
[15:14] <tsdgeos> yeah
[15:16] <dandrader> greyback_, where?
[15:16] <dandrader> greyback_, it's a debug leftover
[15:17] <dandrader> greyback_, so I could build it in a PPA
[15:17] <dandrader> greyback_, but nowadays in the PPA recipe I merge a separate branch that does just that. So I don't have to pollute the main branch with this
[15:28] <greyback_> dandrader: I see it in the LP diff in https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations/+merge/242213
[15:28] <greyback_> it'll break my schroot builds
[15:30] <Saviq> dandrader|afk, you don't have a separate qtmir branch for that, just a unity8 one
[15:31] <dednick> tsdgeos: hm
[15:33] <dednick> tsdgeos: delete watcher?
[15:33] <tsdgeos> yeah
[15:38] <dednick> tsdgeos: actually, can just call delete at that point i guess. If it's finished we won't be needing it anymore.
[15:38] <tsdgeos> dednick: sure
[15:38] <tsdgeos> dednick: isn't that what youwere saying?
[15:38] <tsdgeos> it's what i suggested in the MR
[15:39] <dednick> tsdgeos: you said add a "delete watcher" inside...
[15:39] <dednick> not sure what that meant :)
[15:40] <tsdgeos>     if (!async) {
[15:40] <tsdgeos>         watcher->waitForFinished();
[15:40] <tsdgeos>         delete watcher;
[15:40] <tsdgeos>     }
[15:40] <tsdgeos> dednick: ↑
[15:41] <dednick> tsdgeos: yup. that's what i just added :)
[15:41] <tsdgeos> k
[16:06] <dandrader> greyback_, fixed
[16:06] <greyback_> dandrader: ta
[16:19] <dandrader> greyback_, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity-api/shellRotation/+merge/242212 should be ok now as well
[16:20] <greyback_> dandrader: another thought on https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations/+merge/242213 - the date in the debian/changelog is 2014
[16:21] <greyback_> can you update that please
[16:22] <dandrader> heh, it's showing its age
[16:25] <greyback_> yep
[16:26] <dandrader> greyback_, done
[16:26] <greyback_> ta
[16:43] <greyback_> dandrader: same issue with unity-api branch, the datetime in debian/changelog needs bumping
[16:44] <greyback_> dandrader: any reason you don't declare copyright for 2014? :)
[16:45] <dandrader> greyback_, it wasn't changed in that year, I guess
[16:45] <greyback_> dandrader: only kidding, it's no big deal
[16:47] <dandrader> greyback_, update the changelog date&time
[16:47] <dandrader> *updated
[16:47] <greyback_> TAed
[16:52] <dandrader> Saviq, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations/+merge/242213/comments/638911
[16:55] <dandrader> inline comments are terrible when you have a big diff
[16:56] <dandrader> Saviq, so you want to have lp:~saviq/qtmir/fix-application-api-deps as a prereq of lp:~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations
[16:56] <dandrader> ?
[17:21] <Saviq> dandrader, Ctrl+F, Saviq ;)
[17:22] <Saviq> dandrader, I'll tweak my branch then
[17:23] <Saviq> dandrader, and yeah, please resubmit based on mine
[17:39] <dandrader> Saviq, don't need to merge lp:~saviq/qtmir/fix-application-api-deps again into lp:~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations. It applies cleanly now (no diff at all even)
[17:39] <dandrader> Saviq, can remove the "Needs Fixing"
[17:39] <Saviq> dandrader, right, prolly because it's the same ;)
[17:39] <dandrader> Saviq, yes


[12:26] <Viper550> ???
[01:02] <klepas> moin
[01:11] <troy_s> greetz klep
[01:41] <klepas> hey there troy_s
[01:41] <klepas> how have things been hanging up?
[05:22] <klepas> troy_s: ping
[05:23] <Madpilot> klepas, he's listed as being idle for more than 4hrs
[05:23] <klepas> Madpilot: thanks
[05:23] <klepas> how are you holding up btw Madpilot ? :)
[05:24] <Madpilot> good enough. Very slack day at work, which was nice. :)
[05:24] <troy_s> go klepas
[05:24] <troy_s> pong
[05:24] <klepas> hey troy_s
[05:24] <klepas> been meaning to catch up with you
[12:20] <PingunZ> If someone sees fschoep, tell him to ping me
[05:47] <PingunZ> !seen fschoep
[10:44] <Viper550> msikma, you designed Dapper's Usplash right?
[11:14] <msikma> Yeah
[11:14] <Viper550> I ported it to Edgy
[11:14] <msikma> I had a much nicer one that used the new technology for the new usplash, but I'm not sure if it got rejected or not
[11:15] <Viper550> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=46645
[11:15] <msikma> i.e. this one: http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/usplash_rlsl_7.gif
[11:15] <msikma> That's pretty nice, but you cut off part of the reflection.
[11:16] <Viper550> No, I didn't, it was like that when I got it
[11:16] <msikma> Very strange.
[11:16] <Viper550> I stretched it out of the OSdir screenshots
[11:17] <msikma> It's 256 colors max, right?
[11:18] <Viper550> yep, but I go with 255
[11:18] <msikma> I'll make you a 255 colors one.
[11:18] <Viper550> I think it already is
[11:18] <msikma> Your port is currently using only a very small portion of the available colors and the reflection is messed up because you got it from a stretched OSdir screenshot.
[11:19] <Viper550> Do you have source files for the original (pre-dither)?
[11:21] <msikma> http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash-dapper-255.png
[11:21] <msikma> There, that looks much better.
[11:21] <msikma> I indeed have source files, but they won't open in GIMP. (PSDs.)
[11:21] <msikma> I could upload a 32-bit PNG.
[11:21] <Viper550> okay, that would work good
[11:22] <Viper550> but, your 255 is good too
[11:22] <Viper550> So, that's an actual higher quality version, nice!
[11:22] <msikma> http://thingmajig.org/tmp/newsuggestion_0_32.png
[11:22] <msikma> Just in case.
[11:23] <msikma> I guess this just reassures the convenience of keeping source files around even when you think you're no longer going to edit them. :)
[11:23] <Viper550> I don't think we'll ever get Usplash that high-rez, but still!
[11:24] <msikma> Yeah, 256 colors should be plenty for this design, though. More enthusiastic designs (such as my new Edgy one which is likely to never see the light of day) would need a full color range to really be effective.
[11:24] <msikma> I try my best to dither it properly (and not have the dithering "move around" or "squirm" in the animation) but it still looks awkward.
[11:25] <Viper550> Think I should keep the glossy progress bar as is?
[11:26] <msikma> I'd personally add reflection. It's done by copying the bar, flipping it vertically, and then applying a vertical linear gradient from 0x00000000 to 0x000000FF.
[11:26] <msikma> (black, transparent, to black, opaque.)
[11:27] <Viper550> so, you think reflection there too like the logo
[11:27] <msikma> In the case of the logo, I also added a small gaussian blur.
[11:27] <msikma> Yeah, but I wouldn't add gaussian blur to it. That'd make it look strange.
[11:27] <Viper550> okay...I know it would look strange on progress bars, but it would look neat!
[12:04] <Viper550> does setting the pallete indexes in Usplash themes actually do anything?


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[07:02] (malnilion/#ubuntu+1) Man, the dodge effect is kind of annoying.
[07:02] <tehk> is there anyway to delete my compiz settingsand load the distro default? the default uses gconf.
[07:05] <crdlb> tehk, gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[07:05] <tehk> crdlb, thanks!
[07:14] <thelsdj> if i apt-get source, then change something inside the source directory, how do i recreate the diff and dsc files ?
[07:14] <thelsdj> (so if i then run pbuilder against the dsc file, it picks up my changes)
[07:19] <RAOF> thelsdj: debuild -S
[07:40] <se7en^Of^9> does skype work on gutsy ... anybody know
[07:40] <RAOF> Yes.
[07:40] <se7en^Of^9> :)
[08:04] <benanz1> I like the new printer GUI
[08:09] <dystopianray> so gutsy will have apparmor, but but it will be effectively inactive until a release after gutsy?
[08:13] <benanz1> I'm not sure of that.  It loads when I boot up.  I don't know if it's doing anything though.
[08:15] <dystopianray> the tribe 4 page on ubuntu.com says the apparmor profiles are in universe and aren't officially supported yet
[08:15] <dystopianray> I don't knwo if that means not supported until gutsy+1 or unsupported until a later point, closer to the release of gutsy
[08:16] <Hobbsee> could be either
[08:44] <iwarp62> can anyone help me get past this 404
[08:44] <iwarp62> I'm trying to upgrade to gutsy but I get a 404:(
[08:44] <Hobbsee> then remove the offending URL from your sources list
[08:45] <iwarp62> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]   it's safe to remove thatone??
[08:45] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:45] <Hobbsee> as it's only the commercial one
[08:46] <iwarp62> ok awesome thanks
[08:59] <leperkhanz> Anybody else getting super slow compiz?
[09:03] <hylje> arrrrrr wtf
[09:04] <hylje> sometimes randomly after recovering from suspend, X starts drawing stuff quite a few pixels to the left
[09:05] <hylje> while keeping input intact
[09:05] <hylje> it's rather annoying
[09:05] <RAOF> Cool
[09:06] <dystopianray> hylje: what video card?
[09:07] <hylje> nvidia, 6800
[09:07] <hylje> back when i had gentoo on the same hardware the problem didnt exist, although i didnt suspend either
[09:21] <shayne_> i keep getting these "spurious completion" messages to do with SATA: http://pastebin.com/m4a701306 ... anyone know what they mean?
[09:22] <databuddy> anyone know what pacakge cube-cap is in for compiz ?
[09:38] <yml> I am trying the new tribe4 and for some unknown reason I can use kopete ping google but not surf with konqueror. i am getting the foollowing error:An error occurred while loading http://ubuntu.com:Could not connect to host http://ubuntu.com/.
[09:39] <yml> It  would be nice if one of you could let me know what could cause the kind of stange behavior?
[09:41] <databuddy> try www.google.com
[09:41] <databuddy> or http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:45] <leperkhanz> Is there a newer qemulator that actually works in gutsy out anywhere?
[09:45] <yml> the pb is that I cannot use Internet
[09:46] <yml> because od this problem?
[09:50] <leperkhanz> Sorry, crashed... was there a response about qemulator?
[09:50] <leperkhanz> I can't get my VMs any networking under qemu launcher.
[09:54] <jdt> hello, I just updated from Feisty to Tribe 4, Open Office always fails to load and soffice consumes 100% processor. I first discovered this in Tribe 3. Is anyone else experiencing this with Tribe 4 and the OpenOffice 2.3 development version?
[09:55] <databuddy> flash still not working?
[09:56] <databuddy> jdt: open office working fine here
[09:57] <jdt> databuddy: Ok, thanks.. Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?  Im actually running Kubuntu, I might try Gnome and see if the problem persists there
[09:57] <databuddy> gnome here
[09:57] <databuddy> there have been a couple update rounds to openoffice lately
[10:16] <cyphase> Why is vino-session running by default in Tribe 4?
[10:17] <DanaG> I had that "screen jumps to the left" issue on power-source change (AC <-> Battery), but I don't remember what fixed it.
[10:18] <nemik> i had an issue of every time i unplugged from AC, it would go to resume
[10:19] <nemik> apparently killall'ing then starting again gnome-power-manager is all it takes to fix that.
[10:20] <nemik> so is there any automatix replacement or codec install utility of some kind for gutsy?
[10:24] <RAOF> nemik: Well, if you try to open something in Totem (by double clicking on it, for example) it will install the needed codecs for you.
[10:29] <nemik> hehe hi again RAOF
[10:34] <nemik> RAOF: thanks i finally found the ubuntu restricted package, seems to be working great
[10:41] <pvandewyngaerde> i broke my gutsy after recent upgrade, i cant login to X anymore, and also before, firefox was broken
[10:52] <variant> can't you just fix it?
[10:59] <TheInfinity> hmm ... is it posssible that theres no much reaction to bugs? :)
[11:00] <TheInfinity> and another question - update-pciids ... where should i report unknown devices there?
[11:01] <variant> TheInfinity: you ran update-pciids and still have unknown hardware?
[11:01] <TheInfinity> yes
[11:01] <variant> what do you mean about the "reaction to bugs" comment?'
[11:02] <yml> is there someone that have a good understanding of the wireless configuration.
[11:02] <TheInfinity> because for since alpha3 the bugs are undecided - no real reaction, question or something like this
[11:02] <yml> ?
[11:03] <variant> TheInfinity: you can submit hardware information here: http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/ make sure it's accurate (although it will be checked)
[11:03] <TheInfinity> and my wireless card is known after update-pciids since alpha3, but RJ45 and my graphics card not :)
[11:03] <variant> what ethernet card is it exactly?
[11:03] <variant> and what graphics card?
[11:03] <TheInfinity> GeForce 8600 GT (mobile)
[11:04] <variant> strange, that should be regognised. maybe it's a gutsy bug
[11:04] <TheInfinity> its a MacBook Pro
[11:04] <yml> I am trying to set up my wireless network but for some reason it seems that kubuntu have recognised my wireles card
[11:04] <TheInfinity> so it might be another ID
[11:04] <variant> doesn't matter
[11:04] <variant> true
[11:04] <yml> but when I do sudo iwlist eth1 scanning it is not able to see any network
[11:05] <TheInfinity> RJ45 works, but it is unknown to lspci ...
[11:05] <variant> what card is it?
[11:05] <TheInfinity> <-- looks at specs ...
[11:06] <yml> I have this line in lspci:
[11:06] <yml> 02:07.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[11:07] <TheInfinity> Ethernet	Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T (Gigabit) <-- urgs i hate online specs without any information :/
[11:07] <yml> variant : does that answer your question?
[11:07] <variant> yml: you shouldn't be running gutsy if you don't know how to fix these things or file a proper bug report. the current gutsy releases are developer previews only
[11:07] <variant> (i don't run gutsy, i just follow progress in here)
[11:07] <leperkhanz> I can't get my VMs any networking under qemu launcher.
[11:07] <variant> TheInfinity: lol nice
[11:08] <godlygeek> so...  i just attempted a dist-upgrade from feisty, and the first three things that i see when the system is booting are three "Segmentation fault" lines scrolling by, before "reading files needed to boot"... that's probably not good.  any suggestions for how to track that down?
[11:08] <variant> leperkhanz: what is qemu launcher?
[11:08] <leperkhanz> a GUI for launching qemu VMs.
[11:09] <variant> leperkhanz: link?
[11:09] <yml> I am trying to make sure that when this 7.10 go out I have all the things working. So I am doing my homework to test if there is any regression / improvement.
[11:09] <leperkhanz> qemulator crashes in gutsy right now, so that's out of the question.
[11:09] <TheInfinity> variant: i just have to reboot to gutsy - perhaps i get more information here ... :/
[11:09] <variant> TheInfinity: ok
[11:10] <leperkhanz> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=523
[11:10] <leperkhanz> Unless you know of a different VM gui that actually works!
[11:12] <pvandewyngaerde> i get those segmentation faults too,
[11:15] <TheInfinity> 0c:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 436a (rev 13)
[11:15] <DanaG> qemulator is another good utility.
[11:15] <TheInfinity> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0407 (rev a1)
[11:15] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i check my pci ids ?
[11:15] <TheInfinity> those two :)
[11:15] <TheInfinity> now - eating ...
[11:15] <DanaG> Oh, and I use vde2 networking.  Some time I should write up a bit for Gutsy specifically.
[11:17] <DanaG> Or you can use tap networking directly.
[11:17] <DanaG> It depends on whether you want multiple VMs to communicate with each other.
[11:22] <Axioo> anyone, I have 6.06 LTS, when is the next LTS release? I'm planning to install a LTS for a server in several places. If it is in the near future and worth the wait, then I'll wait.
[11:22] <elkbuntu> !lts
[11:22] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[11:22] <elkbuntu> hmm...
[11:23] <RAOF> Gutsy is (almost certainly) LTS.
[11:23] <RAOF> 7.10, so in October.
[11:23] <Axioo> !gutsy
[11:23] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:23] <elkbuntu> RAOF, are you sure?
[11:23] <elkbuntu> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html
[11:24] <elkbuntu> "Gutsy will not be an LTS (Long Term Support) release"
[11:24] <godlygeek> so, the three segfault's that I'm seeing on boot.. seem to be coming from.. the initrd?  i think?  if i use nosplash, single, and don't use quiet, i see three 'Segmentation fault' lines around a line saying it's executing "/scripts/init_bottom"
[11:24] <Axioo> RAOF: what about that statement from ubotu (bot)?
[11:24] <RAOF> elkbuntu: It was announced at Ubuntu live by sabdfl, I think.
[11:25] <elkbuntu> http://kahvipapu.com/blog/2007/07/24/ubuntu-live-conference-gutsy-notes/
[11:25] <elkbuntu> RAOF, not according to that
[11:26] <RAOF> ...
[11:26] <RAOF> When I said "Gutsy", what I meant was "Gutsy+1"
[11:26] <RAOF> Sorry.  I knew that.
[11:26] <elkbuntu> hehe
[11:26] <variant> RAOF: yes, according to the space man
[11:27] <godlygeek> how about just a little help on how to track down a segfault in something run by the initrd?  :)
[11:28] <godlygeek> i don't even know where to start on figuring out which process is segfaulting.
[11:28] <pvandewyngaerde> godlygeek: i got that too
[11:28] <pvandewyngaerde> i have dual opteron and 64 bit
[11:29] <pvandewyngaerde> but it boots fine further on
[11:29] <godlygeek> pvandewyngaerde: haha, at least i'm not the only one.  i'm not the best c coder in the world, but i'd like to think that i'm not useless either!
[11:29] <godlygeek> pvandewyngaerde: core2duo macbook.  so, it gets to pick and choose, but should be able to run 64 or 32 bit code...
[11:30] <Axioo> soooo ... there is no telling when is the next LTS going to come out?
[11:30] <godlygeek> pvandewyngaerde: i'm aware that the system boots fine... and seems to even be working well... but a segfault is still completely unacceptable, and i'd like to think that i could help fix a bug
[11:31] <pvandewyngaerde> idd, but i wouldn't know how
[11:32] <godlygeek> idd?
[11:32] <albert23> axioo: http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-07-22-008-26-NW-DB-SW
[11:33] <godlygeek> (i don't disagree?  :))
[11:34] <pvandewyngaerde> A segmentation fault occurs when a program attempts to access a memory location that it is not allowed to access, or attempts to access a memory location in a way that is not allowed (for example, attempting to write to a read-only location, or to overwrite part of the operating system)
[11:35] <godlygeek> sure
[11:36] <godlygeek> my bigger problem is figuring out how to tear apart an initrd to see which script is causing a segfault
[11:38] <pvandewyngaerde> have you filed a bug report ?
[11:39] <godlygeek> pvandewyngaerde: i don't know that i really have enough information.  none of the errors i'm seeing on screen are being logged to /var/log (though there might be a way to log them, i can't think of it...)
[11:40] <Axioo> oh just read the link from elkbuntu ... it is 8.04? Thx, and also from albert23, Thx 2
[11:41] <pvandewyngaerde> godlygeek: them file a bug report so people who know where to look  know there is a problem
[11:42] <leperkhanz> What good games are there for AMD64 gutsy?
[11:43] <RAOF> leperkhanz: All the same games as for i386 gutsy, of course :)
 ok
 you guys arnt probably gonna like this
 but i just dont like compiz very much without my emerald themes.
 so in gutsy: 1. add the feisty basic repo & do update & install beryl-manager beryl and emerald-themes
[11:53] <databuddy> * lymeca has quit (Connection timed out)
 2. run beryl-manager and select metacity as wm. select gtk window decorator.
 3. turn on desktop effects & select emerald window decorator
 when you do stuff and it goes back to defaults etc just select to gtk themer and then back to emerald
 and emerald-themes works to change the nice lil thingie
 :>
[11:53] <databuddy> again, i repeat that the desktop effects to me are 50% worthless wihtout the themer.
[11:54] <databuddy> linux is about options and i choose that!
[11:54] <databuddy> [oh and comment out and do another update[
[11:54] <databuddy> for the record the only reason beryl itself doesnt work is b/c it doesnt like the plugin date - i suppose if you compiled everything from source they would all play quite nicely lol
[11:55] <TheInfinity> ok
[11:55] <TheInfinity> back
[11:55] <databuddy> wb
[11:55] <databuddy> i'm back too
[11:55] <databuddy> XD
[11:55] <TheInfinity> back to missing pciids ...
[11:55] <databuddy> oo
[11:55] <databuddy> whats that
[11:56] <TheInfinity> i have unknown devices in lspci ;)
[11:56] <databuddy> o
[11:56] <TheInfinity> and restricted-manager-kde just crashed.
[11:57] <TheInfinity> yea :)
[12:01] <yml> yml$
[12:06] <TheInfinity> hmm
[12:06] <TheInfinity> what should i do with this missing pciids? :)
[12:10] <TheInfinity> reboot to restart this restricted manager ...
[12:45] <TheInfinity> yea
[12:45] <TheInfinity> crash of hardware database :9
[12:57] <TheInfinity> now hardware database crashes direct after boot
[12:57] <TheInfinity> and restricted hardware manager does not start again
[12:57] <TheInfinity> hmm
[01:11] <databuddy> ok
[01:11] <databuddy> i know how u guyz hate emerald-themes so much for some reason
[01:11] <databuddy> but i found a much more elegant solution:
[01:12] <databuddy> sudo echo "emerald --replace" > /usr/bin/emreplace
[01:12] <databuddy> sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/emreplace
[01:12] <databuddy> then use alt+f2 to run
[01:12] <databuddy> with emerald themes in it changes to the em theme of choice
[01:22] <Do``> hey
[01:22] <Do``> i think i ran into a bug
[01:22] <TheInfinity> only one? :D
[01:23] <Do``> so far :)
[01:23] <Do``> installed wine and ran world of warcraft
[01:23] <Do``> and when i exited the game
[01:23] <Do``> the gnome panels on the bottom of the screen reversed their order
[01:24] <Do``> so the panel with the running apps on it moved to the upper row
[01:24] <Do``> and the one with the applications menu and clock and whatnot moved to the bottom row
[01:24] <Do``> and while i like it better this way and never found to do it manually, i dont think it should do this
[01:25] <databuddy> lol
[01:25] <databuddy> btw Do`` just drag a panel by an empty spot to anywhere you like on the corners of the screen
[01:26] <Do``> well
[01:26] <Do``> if i restart the gnome-panel with killall
[01:26] <databuddy> itl stay where u put it
[01:26] <Do``> it resets to my previous settings
[01:26] <databuddy> then log out and in
[01:26] <Do``> that should save the settings?
[01:27] <Do``> properly i mean
[01:28] <Do``> my, thank you :)
[01:28] <Do``> still... about the bug
[01:30] <databuddy> yeah thats a good one.
[01:30] <databuddy> try moving them back and logging out and in
[01:30] <databuddy> and then see if you can reproduce it?
[01:30] <Do``> i can reproduce it :)
[01:31] <databuddy> o: for sure?
[01:31] <databuddy> too bad i dont wow
[01:31] <Do``> it might be related to changing the resolution
[01:31] <databuddy> well that was my first thought
[01:31] <Do``> i play in 1024x768
[01:31] <databuddy> but usually that just messes up the icon order on the bar itself
[01:31] <Do``> and the desktop runs in 1280x1024 the native resolution
[01:32] <databuddy> try making both resolutions the same and then run wow
[01:32] <databuddy> see if it reproduces then?
[01:33] <Do``> gimme a minute
[01:34] <Do``> hm hm both on the same resolution doesnt seem to affect the panel order
[01:35] <Do``> oh and btw, i lost my wallpaper settings too, while the panel order got messed up previously, i just didnt notice it
[01:35] <Do``> i'm back the default chocolate colored one
[01:35] <databuddy> yeah lets call it a bug :P
[01:35] <databuddy> !bug
[01:35] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:36] <databuddy> tho i'm no expert so no blaming me for any marshmellow roasting events
[01:36] <databuddy> nor mass nakid children events either ~_~
[01:36] <Do``> should i make a bug report?
[01:36] <databuddy> i would be inclined to do so, yes
[01:38] <TheInfinity> someone here who has firefox installed with gutsy?
[01:38] <Do``> i'll to be as precise as i can, thank you for the help databuddy
[01:38] <TheInfinity> because i need somone who tests a bug :)
[01:40] <Do``> databuddy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/119910 <- :)
[01:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119910 in gnome-panel "Gnome should remember panel order and state" [Low,Invalid]
[01:40] <Do``> though i dont know why it is invalid
[01:41] <databuddy> considered a bug with wine perhaps?
[01:41] <databuddy> ask in #winehq // or ask on the thread
[01:42] <Do``> alrighty
[01:42] <Do``> thanks for the info
[01:46] <parC> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0       fuck you elkbuntu
[01:47] <TheInfinity> wtf? :o
[01:47] <Do``> mirc exploit iirc
[01:51] <databuddy> .....
[01:52] <databuddy> and yes you do Do``
[01:53] <Do``> hm?
[01:55] <pvandewyngaerde> i cant login to x      http://pastebin.com/m65f5edb0
[01:58] <databuddy> pvandewyngaerde: using nvidia driver i take it?
[01:58] <databuddy> what card // which nvidia-glx package is in
[01:59] <pvandewyngaerde> i got in X as root
[01:59] <pvandewyngaerde> nvidia 6600
[02:00] <pvandewyngaerde> glx-new
[02:00] <TheInfinity> pvandewyngaerde: mobile version?
[02:02] <pvandewyngaerde> Gainward Ultra 1960PCX XP Geforce 6600 GT 128 MB DDR 3
[02:02] <pvandewyngaerde> pci express    no mobile
[02:02] <TheInfinity> oh okay 6600. i read 8600 - theres a known bug ;)
[02:04] <pvandewyngaerde> should i try nv drivers ?
[02:04] <databuddy> sure
[02:04] <databuddy> and if that doesnt work try vesa
[02:06] <pvandewyngaerde> brb
[02:11] <pvandewyngaerde> nope
[02:11] <pvandewyngaerde> waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing
[02:13] <pvandewyngaerde> this is samd bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/123222
[02:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123222 in Ubuntu "[GUTSY]  GUI fails when running in virtualbox" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[02:14] <fenrig> hi
[02:14] <fenrig> could it be that cups can't read the gutenprint printer drivers
[02:19] <fenrig> hi
[02:20] <fenrig> i can't find any bug about gutenprint and cups
[02:44] <cyphase> hmm, the latest deskbar update is interesting
[02:52] <pvandewyngaerde> i found my problem, drive was full :-(
[02:59] <jdt> hello, has anyone noticed with Tribe 4 that trackerd seems to constantly consume a lot of CPU%  (on my system, average about 30 - 40% constant utilisation)
[03:00] <jdt> Also, hard drive utilisation is constantly high
[03:01] <pvandewyngaerde> that is indexing
[03:03] <jdt> pvandewyngaerde: yes, its been running non-stop for over five hours since I installed? Seems a little excessive..
[03:05] <jdt> oh well, hopefully it wont need to index for hours on end daily
[03:21] <kenro> I need a cbr viewer, but Ubuntu doesn't provide one. With me using hte gibbon, would it ruin my computer if I include pure Debian pkg sources?
[03:24] <ccooke> kenro: in the long run, almost certainly
[03:24] <kenro> Anyone with so much as opinion or advice for my problem?
[03:25] <ccooke> if you installed a single specific package, probably not.
[03:25] <kenro> ccooke: Sorry I'm tracking several channels for help.
[03:26] <ccooke> kenro: more to the point... what about comix?
[03:27] <kenro> I'll check...
[03:27] <ccooke> it's in universe
[03:27] <ccooke> have you wnabled universe?
[03:28] <ccooke> (found by doing a search for "cbr cbz". If you don't like it, there's cbrpager, too.
[03:29] <kenro> crpager seems wanky. starts up, freezes before view.
[03:30] <Trewas> kenro: .cbr is just a generic .rar archive so it can be extracted with rar, and there's comix (and probably many others) in ubuntu which can show files in .cbr archives directly
[03:31] <ccooke> comix appears to work
[03:31] <ccooke> I just tried it
[03:32] <kenro> Funny how synaptic failed to note. Installing comix now.
[03:34] <ccooke> kenro: was universe enabled?
[03:34] <ccooke> what did you search for?
[03:35] <kenro> ccooke:  I searched cbr. All synaptic returned was cbrpager, which failed to display.
[03:35] <kenro> ccooke: apt just installed it.
[03:38] <kenro> HaHaHa! I could swear I had unrar installed!
[03:39] <kenro> Bah. Now, unrar is withdrawn.
[03:43] <kenro> I'll hafta wait til unrar is re-included...
[03:46] <kenro> ccooke: file transfer to you of my sources.list?
[03:48] <ccooke> kenro: put it on the pastebin
[03:48] <ccooke> !pastebin
[03:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:49] <kenro> ccooke:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33337/
[03:51] <ccooke> hmm
[03:51] <ccooke> no idea why you didn't find it, then
[03:51] <ccooke> it was in my search results
[03:52] <kenro> And now, thought I'v extracted the archive separately, comix can't display because there's no unrar.
[03:52] <ohad> hi. is it possible to get/force higher screen resolution from intl 1024x768 on thinkpad x61s ?
[03:52] <ohad> running gutsy 2.6.22-9
[03:54] <ohad> also, how do i go about installing a patch .c file?
[03:54] <ohad> my sound only works if i run this .py file.
[03:56] <kenro> ccooke:  I guess I'll just hafta wait, let people work on the repos a while. Upgrade and try again. Thanks anyway.
[03:56] <ohad> anyone there?
[03:57] <kenro> No one here but us chackens.
[03:58] <ohad> 154 chickenz
[04:07] <gorrz> anything worth making the jump from feisty to gutsy ?
[04:20] <kousotu> hey guys
[04:21] <mark007> Hello all.
[04:21] <mark007> I'd like to help test, but am having a hard time figuring out how to upgrade to Gutsy. Has anyone had any luck doing so?
[04:21] <kousotu> hey mark007
[04:21] <mark007> I don't want to just add gutsy to my sources.list...
[04:21] <mark007> update-manager -cd pulls up the normal update manager.
[04:21] <kousotu> mark007: I don't know what you mean
[04:21] <TheInfinity> mark007: apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:22] <kousotu> ok, maybe TheInfinity does
[04:22] <mark007> Haven't tried that, yet, TheInfinity
[04:22] <kousotu> lol
[04:22] <slimz> is there any way i can completely reinstall the keyring and keyring manager, it always asks me for a new keyring manager everytime i get on my wireless, then when i access a netwark share
[04:22] <kousotu> slimz: it does that always
[04:22] <kousotu> slimz: to me as well
[04:22] <TheInfinity> if you dont know how to fix problems via apt / dpkg you should not upgrade to gutsy ;)
[04:22] <mark007> TheInfinity, do I need gutsy in my /etc/apt/sources.list for that?
[04:23] <kousotu> hey Hobbsee
[04:23] <Hobbsee> hi kousotu
[04:23] <TheInfinity> mark007: you know gutsy is alpha software?
[04:23] <mark007> Of course :-)
[04:23] <mark007> I always adopt the new ubuntu after Herd/Tribe/Whatever-they're-calling-it-this-release 4
[04:23] <TheInfinity> it hats lots of bugs and if you dont know how to dist-upgrade a system you will destroy your system quite fast ;)
[04:23] <slimz> mark007 : are you trying to pull up the update-manager in gutsy?
[04:24] <slimz> mark007 : you don't need update manager -c -d for going to tribe 4, just a dist-upgrade
[04:24] <kousotu> Hobbsee: does the alpha update the same as the T4 release?
[04:24] <mark007> Ok. Thanks slimz.
[04:24] <kousotu> I like the alpha, everything works like it should
[04:24] <kousotu> lol
[04:24] <Hobbsee> kousotu: er, yes
[04:24] <slimz> mine works amazing, except the keyring
[04:24] <mark007> The gutsy-tribe-4 page suggested pulling update-manager from feisty-proposed, but I couldn't find that version to do a force-version
[04:25] <kousotu> Hobbsee: kool, thx
[04:25] <slimz> mark007 : are you in feisty now?
[04:25] <mark007> And then doing update-manager -cd
[04:25] <mark007> slimz, yes.
[04:25] <slimz> oh
[04:25] <slimz> then i was wrong
[04:26] <slimz> you cant just dist-upgrade
[04:26] <slimz> you need update manager
[04:26] <mark007> Well, as stated "update-manager -c -d" doesn't even offer to upgrade.
[04:26] <mark007> Do I need to add gutsy to my sources.list file for it to offer?
[04:27] <slimz> if you really want to try gutsy
[04:27] <mark007> Perhaps I should just download the official cd release and go that route.
[04:27] <slimz> i would suggest getting the iso of it then
[04:27] <slimz> and booting it
[04:27] <mark007> I upgraded to Feisty the same way with no problems (that is, using update-manager)
[04:28] <kousotu> Hobbsee: do you know why workspace manager was disabled in this release?
[04:29] <mark007> slimz, Perhaps I shall...
[04:29] <Hobbsee> kousotu: yes.  compiz.
[04:29] <kousotu> ?
[04:29] <kousotu> what is tht?
[04:29] <kousotu> that*
[04:31] <Skiessi> what's workspace manager?
[04:32] <Skiessi> let's see does this work
[04:32] <Skiessi> !compiz
[04:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:32] <Skiessi> !workspacemanager
[04:32] <Skiessi> :|
[04:35] <kousotu> lol
[05:01] <BorisYaltsin> is the guy who tried to install gutsy on an xps m1330 here?
[05:48] <yaustar> I am having trouble with WIfi + 64 bit WEP and Gutsy, can anyone help me out please?
[05:48] <Kousotu> Hobbsee: is there a way to enable that manger in Tribe 4a like it was in T3?
[05:48] <Kousotu> yaustar: what card?
[05:49] <yaustar> 01:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[05:49] <Kousotu> yaustar: also, are you using roaming?
[05:49] <yaustar> Nope, I am configuring it manually
[05:49] <Kousotu> hm..
[05:49] <Kousotu> I never had a prob with manual config
[05:50] <yaustar> I have tried it without the WEP code (unprotected) and it is fine
[05:50] <Kousotu> that's odd
[05:50] <Kousotu> hm...
[05:50] <yaustar> Using a 64 bit WEP code: NN:NN:NN:NN:NN and I get the IP address<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <Kousotu> is this the pc you're trying to go wifi on?
[05:50] <Hobbsee> no idea which manager you're talking about
[05:50] <yaustar> yes
[05:51] <Kousotu> Hobbsee: The workspae one
[05:51] <Hobbsee> only by disabling compiz
[05:51] <Kousotu> yaustar you have it ethed now?
[05:51] <yaustar> ethed?
[05:51] <Kousotu> Hobbsee: and how do I do that?
[05:51] <Kousotu> ethernet
[05:52] <yaustar> Yes, I am connected by a wired connection at the moment
[05:52] <Kousotu> a wired connection
[05:52] <Kousotu> ok
[05:52] <Kousotu> let's try this...
[05:52] <Kousotu> enter the wifi SSID with <none> on security
[05:53] <yaustar> ok
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Kousotu: you can change the number of workspaces in the compiz config thing
[05:54] <yaustar> Kousotu: I get the same IP address and the number of RX packets shoot through the roof.
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> how is gutsy running thus far??
[05:55] <yaustar> I remember having trouble with codes before and they need to be in a specific format.. I am not sure if I have that correct
[05:55] <yaustar> CaBlGuY: Better then feisty, At least it doesn't crash 80% on boot up on my laptop
[05:55] <CaBlGuY> hehe,,   which is good yes?  lol
[05:56] <CaBlGuY> and whats someof the major changes form fiesty?
[05:56] <yaustar> A little less responsive then 6.06 but generally pretty good
[06:00] <Kousotu> I don't know yaustar
[06:00] <Kousotu> I'll be right back
[06:00] <yaustar> np
[06:00] <Kousotu> gotta work on my gram's pc
[06:04] <poningru> yaustar: ok can you try switching it to roaming mode?
[06:05] <poningru> this seems like like a acpi-hex wep problem
[06:05] <yaustar> Would it work if the SSID is hidden?
[06:05] <poningru> yes
[06:06] <poningru> just 'connect to other wireless network'
[06:06] <yaustar> This is going to sound dumb, where is that option?
[06:06] <poningru> first switch to roaming
[06:06] <yaustar> yep, done
[06:06] <poningru> then click on nm-applet
[06:07] <poningru> the little network applet on the panel
[06:09] <poningru> yaustar: did you find it?
[06:09] <poningru> if you removed it from panel
[06:09] <poningru> then you have to do nm-applet from alt+f2
[06:10] <yaustar> ah ha, I see...
[06:10] <yaustar> yep
[06:10] <yaustar> Yep, entered the key and I think I have a connection to the router
[06:10] <yaustar> I found it
[06:11] <yaustar> The iwconfig shows:
[06:11] <poningru> what does it show?
[06:11] <poningru> pastebin?
[06:12] <yaustar> http://rafb.net/p/jydquH40.html
[06:15] <yaustar> http://rafb.net/p/jydquH40.html
[06:15] <poningru> looking
[06:15] <poningru> yaustar: sweet that looks like you have a connection
[06:15] <poningru> now do a ifconfig
[06:16] <yaustar> http://rafb.net/p/bS0sm495.html
[06:17] <poningru> looking
[06:17] <poningru> also do a iwconfig multiple times
[06:17] <poningru> see if the frequency changes
[06:18] <yaustar> Hmmm ... I think the WIred connection is confusing things
[06:18] <yaustar> eth1      unassociated  ESSID:""
[06:18] <poningru> yeah especially with roaming mode it wont...
[06:18] <poningru> do it without the roaming mode
[06:20] <Assid> hey there
[06:20] <yaustar> gah... still cant get an SSID to show :p.. brb, I am going to disconnect the wired connection for a sec
[06:21] <poningru> k
[06:21] <poningru> Assid: whatsup?
[06:22] <Kousotu> yaustar
[06:22] <Assid> poningru: not much.. just curious .. how "stable" is gutsy atm.. considering its pretty close to its release cycle
[06:23] <Assid> im kinda tired of compiz breaking on me on feisty.. and then emerald not linkin right.. and stuff
[06:23] <Hobbsee> Assid: gutsy still breaks.
[06:23] <Hobbsee> it's not even feature freeze, yet
[06:23] <Hobbsee> or UVF
[06:23] <Assid> uvf ? i know whats feature freeze.. whats uvf ?
[06:24] <poningru> universe version freeze
[06:24] <poningru> Assid: if you are on a production system then dont use it
[06:24] <poningru> as in if you absolutely need that computer then do not use it
[06:26] <ohad> hi, i'm running gutsy 2.6.22-9 - on a thinkpad x61s -- i was wondering if it is possible to squeeze more then 1024x768 out of the graphics card --
[06:26] <Assid> hrmmm. ok
[06:27] <ohad> also how do i enable sound by default ( i have to run this py script to enable sound each time) --
[06:27] <ohad> and last but not least -- suspend -- how do i do that?:)
[06:27] <ohad> it doesn't work out of the box
[06:28] <poningru> ohad: how big is the thinkpad?
[06:28] <poningru> what screen size?
[06:28] <ohad> 12.1
[06:28] <poningru> iirc thats the 12" one
[06:28] <poningru> right
[06:28] <poningru> so thats the screens limitation
[06:29] <poningru> if you plugged it into an external monitor assuming a recent intel graphics card it will let you do more than that
[06:29] <ohad> poningru, really? :/ no way to view things 1240x1024 let say?
[06:29] <poningru> ohad: external monitor
[06:29] <poningru> thats your laptop screens limitation
[06:29] <poningru> can you link to the py script?
[06:30] <darkstar61> hi all, i'm on a test box with kubuntu tribe 4 and the latest upgrades... i have strange issues with some apps like amule http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3761/amule1pk0.jpg or dp http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8183/dp1cd8.jpg
[06:32] <yaustar> Right back...
[06:33] <yaustar> Still no luck, trying roaming mode and it keeps asking for the WEP key
[06:34] <yaustar> iwconfig keeps thnking I have connect to the router
[06:37] <mike> Greets, everyone...
[06:39] <mike> Has anyone here compiled Compiz-Fusion from GIT on Gutsy?
[06:40] <poningru> yaustar: quick question why are you doing hidden ssid?
[06:40] <poningru> you dont actually believe people cant pick that up right?
[06:41] <yaustar> Well consdering it is useless nowadays, I honestly don't know
[06:41] <poningru> right
[06:41] <poningru> and switch to wpa
[06:41] <yaustar> DS can't cannot via wpa
[06:42] <poningru> oh hehe
[06:42] <poningru> nice
[06:42] <yaustar> sucks I know :
[06:42] <yaustar> :P
[06:42] <poningru> nintendo DS I meant
[06:42] <yaustar> Ah yeah :p
[06:43] <yaustar> I can't understand how it has a connection to the router but not get a valid IP
[06:46] <yaustar> just going to try a 128 bit key instead
[06:49] <yaustar> ... no joy
[06:49] <yaustar> :/
[06:52] <mike> does anyone know if they're planning to have Frostwire in the Gutsy repo's?
[06:53] <yaustar_> sorted
[06:53] <yaustar_> I changed the SSID name and set t to broadcast
[06:54] <yaustar_> I can only guess that another router has the same SSID name?
[06:56] <yaustar_> I live in a block of flats and I remember seeing someone throwing the box packaging of the same router model as us...
[06:57] <poningru> yaustar: hehe that sucks
[06:57] <yaustar_> It would also explain the lower signal strength (73/100) when I am sitting right next to the damn thing ;)
[06:58] <yaustar_> Cheers for the help regardless :)
[07:39] <ohad> hi, anyone here to help with suspend and sound -- running gutsy 2.6.22-9 on an x61s
[07:51] <Stormx2> Azureus is so broken :(
[07:54] <sebsebseb> How do I delete stuff from the Ubuntu/Gnome menu?
[07:55] <poningru> sebsebseb: system->pref->main menu
[07:55] <poningru> but why are you doing this?
[07:55] <poningru> if you want to hide it from users I would use pegasus
[07:55] <poningru> anyone know how to get deskbar back to its original method
[07:55] <poningru> as in an entry in the panel
[07:56] <sebsebseb> why, because I got stuff left from
[07:56] <sebsebseb> Wine
[07:56] <sebsebseb> I deleted my .wine folder :) from Home
[07:56] <poningru> ok cool
[07:56] <sebsebseb> I want a clean install of stuff you see
[07:56] <poningru> but I would uninstall from wine
[07:57] <sebsebseb> uninstall from Wine?
[07:57] <poningru> but ...
[07:57] <poningru> since you deleted wine...
[07:57] <poningru> sebsebseb: yeah dude wine has an uninstall thing
[07:57] <sebsebseb> uninstall programs thing yes I know about that,  but uhmmmmmmmm
[07:57] <sebsebseb> anyway  I re run Wine and it puts a new .wine folder I think
[07:58] <poningru> sebsebseb: I would do a sudo aptitude purge wine
[07:58] <poningru> and then sudo aptitude install wine
[07:58] <sebsebseb> that will get rid of wine completly and then I re install
[07:58] <poningru> yes
[07:58] <sebsebseb> yeah could do that
[07:59] <sebsebseb> that will get rid of the wine folder menu in
[07:59] <sebsebseb> home?
[07:59] <poningru> yes
[07:59] <sebsebseb> I mean
[07:59] <sebsebseb> in
[07:59] <sebsebseb> the Ubuntu start menu
[07:59] <poningru> it should in the menu
[07:59] <poningru> right
[07:59] <sebsebseb> ok sure i'll do that
[07:59] <sebsebseb> altough
[07:59] <sebsebseb> the only reason I decided to do this just now
[07:59] <sebsebseb> get rid of WIne
[08:00] <sebsebseb> compellety  was to be completlly sure no trojan was left :)  yes  I ran a trojan a while ago in Wine to see what would happen and it did some stuff,  not much.  and yes I know it's not a real Windows install,  so woudn't have been able to do much,  but anyway to be sure.  plus I had delted some things that maybe I should have kept I think
[08:00] <sebsebseb> anyway
[08:01] <sebsebseb> yes that
[08:01] <sebsebseb> and also,  because I am thinking about installing another program,  but  I shoudn't need to install this really
[08:01] <sebsebseb> I reckon
[08:01] <sebsebseb> ,but I thought if I am installing a new program,  might as well give it a clean Wine then since I was going to get rid of what I had before anyway
[08:01] <jldugger> so if you uninstalled wine via apt-get and something's left
[08:02] <sebsebseb> no  I haven't done that
[08:02] <sebsebseb> yet
[08:02] <jldugger> either you didn't --purge or there's a bug
[08:02] <sebsebseb> ,but I will
[08:02] <sebsebseb> I just deleted the .wine folder before
[08:02] <sebsebseb> anyway i'll uninstall it properly everything
[08:02] <sebsebseb> and re install later
[08:02] <sebsebseb> whilst  I am in the Gutsy channel I have some other things
[08:03] <jldugger> it would have been smarter, if you were worried about cross infection, to test your "infects wine" theory in a vm
[08:03] <sebsebseb> that's true
[08:03] <sebsebseb> on the subject of VM's :)  I want to set one up in Virtual Box  Windows yes
[08:03] <sebsebseb> and infect it with stuff and not have it connected to net of course
[08:03] <sebsebseb> when doing this
[08:03] <sebsebseb> and see what happens
[08:04] <sebsebseb> and  Virtual Box I am meant to be able to do snapshots or something,  and go back to a current state
[08:04] <sebsebseb> I tryed stuff before,  but not sure
[08:04] <sebsebseb> and  I think same thing can be done in VMware server
[08:05] <sebsebseb> I used Azureues in the past,  and I could just click on a torrent that was downloading,  and say download this file don't download that,  make this file the prioritety and stuff like that
[08:06] <sebsebseb> however Ktorrent,  I carn't just click on a torrent that is downloading,  and t ell it what to do with the files like I can with Azureues, any ideas?
[08:06] <sebsebseb> is this possible?
[08:07] <jldugger> you can always move the file while it's open
[08:07] <sebsebseb> well I want to download  files in a particualr order
[08:07] <jldugger> with whatever kde uses for file exploring
[08:07] <sebsebseb> really
[08:07] <jldugger> ah
[08:07] <jldugger> no clue
[08:07] <jldugger> but azureus has some problems =(
[08:07] <sebsebseb> ktorrent just don't seem to do it like Azureus which sucks
[08:08] <sebsebseb> I been thinking  try out uTorrent in Wine or something
[08:08] <sebsebseb> and  hopefully that can do what I want
[08:08] <sebsebseb> so hence the Wine stuff
[08:08] <jldugger> im assuming azureus is simply broken for you?
[08:08] <sebsebseb> Azureues
[08:08] <sebsebseb> I installed it from the site yesterday
[08:08] <sebsebseb> ,but
[08:09] <sebsebseb> something was wrong with it carn't quite remmeber now
[08:09] <sebsebseb> I guess to do with the port or my firewall
[08:09] <sebsebseb> no I think I opended the port
[08:09] <sebsebseb> hummmmmmm
[08:09] <sebsebseb> or maybe Azureues is fine
[08:09] <sebsebseb> ,but
[08:09] <sebsebseb> it keeps on wanting to open the  torrent in ktorrent or something
[08:09] <jldugger> it occasionally gets into a state where its log directory breaks itself
[08:09] <sebsebseb> I think this is a bit silly though running uTorrent in Wine for what I want
[08:10] <jldugger> sebsebseb: it sounds like they wrote drag and drop seperately
[08:10] <jldugger> so you can drag a torrent onto the desktop
[08:10] <sebsebseb> which Ktorrent?
[08:10] <jldugger> and drag a torrent on the desktop into ktorrent
[08:10] <jldugger> but didnt consider dragging a torrent around within ktorrent
[08:10] <sebsebseb> ok,  but as I said my issue is to do with files
[08:10] <sebsebseb> I want to download this file,  first then that,  then that so on
[08:10] <sebsebseb> what I can do
[08:10] <sebsebseb> is
[08:11] <sebsebseb> and have done so far,  but  considering I got over 10 episodes yet to download
[08:11] <sebsebseb> this will be a pain in the arse every time
[08:11] <sebsebseb> I can open the torrent in Ktorrent,  and tell it to only download the episode I want
[08:11] <sebsebseb> when that is finnished
[08:11] <sebsebseb> do the same thing again
[08:11] <sebsebseb> and move the download some where and stuff
[08:12] <sebsebseb> where as in Azureus downloading a TV series is piss easy
[08:12] <sebsebseb> how I want it
[08:12] <sebsebseb> or was last time I did so
[08:12] <jldugger> donno. i dont use ktorrent or kde =/
[08:12] <sebsebseb> I don't tend to use KDE itself
[08:12] <sebsebseb> ,but it does have some nice apps :)
[08:12] <sebsebseb> that also run in Gnome of course :)
[08:13] <sebsebseb> yep Konversation for example the IRC client I am using now
[08:13] <sebsebseb> and the kick arse K3B DVD and CD burning and that
[08:13] <sebsebseb> another example
[08:13] <stdin> try ktorrent, it's very nice
[08:13] <sebsebseb> uhmmmm stdin
[08:13] <sebsebseb> read above
[08:13] <sebsebseb> I have been using ktorrent
[08:14] <sebsebseb> and I have a problem with it
[08:14] <stdin> what problem exactly (I can't read a few pages of your messages without my brain exploding :P)
[08:14] <sebsebseb> oh right yeah the way I type :dd
[08:14] <sebsebseb> :d I see
[08:15] <sebsebseb> ok  I want to download the episodes of 24,  that I didn't get to see on  the TV back  earlyer on this year
[08:15] <sebsebseb> ,because of stupid
[08:15] <sebsebseb> UK  TV company capitalist arse holes
[08:15] <stdin> and you have the legal coppy of the DVD of course...
[08:15] <sebsebseb> BSKYB  saying no you carn't have  Sky One anymore since
[08:16] <jldugger> im confused. i thought bbc controlled most of the terrestial tv
[08:16] <sebsebseb> lol no
[08:16] <sebsebseb> and this is cable TV
[08:16] <jldugger> hardly capitalist ;)
[08:16] <sebsebseb> and of course I don't have the legal DVD yet,  considering it's not out yet
[08:16] <stdin> (don't get me started on the BBCs iPlayer :( )
[08:17] <stdin> sebsebseb: then we CAN'T discuss that
[08:17] <sebsebseb> anyway the fuck wad that owns Sky  and  the guy  that brought out NTL  which brought out my TV and Internet suplier what used to be Telewest
[08:17] <stdin> it's illegal
[08:17] <sebsebseb> lol
[08:17] <stdin> !language > sebsebseb
[08:17] <sebsebseb> listen to this shit
[08:17] <sebsebseb> I think most people that download torrents
[08:17] <ompaul> sebsebseb, chill please
[08:17] <stdin> sebsebseb: LAST warning about the languag
[08:17] <sebsebseb> download stuff that technically they aren't meant to
[08:17] <cecko> hi all, are there the edubuntu packages under gutsy tribe?
[08:18] <jldugger> sebsebseb: then discuss the legal uses of ktorrent, without perhaps mentioning specifics ;)
[08:18] <sebsebseb> and I could just be saying I want to download 24 which to some might make me sound kind of cool since 24 kicks arse,  when really I could be downloading something else that is perfectly legal to download
[08:19] <ompaul> sebsebseb, so your wish is to be removed from this channel for both language and being offtopic, have I got that right?
[08:19] <sebsebseb> no
[08:19] <ompaul> ohh you had me a tad confused there
[08:19] <stdin> then don't mention what you are downloading, just sate the problems
[08:19] <jldugger> sadly, sarcasm isn't against the code of conduct
[08:19] <sebsebseb> ok  I got a torrent that has 24 files
[08:20] <sebsebseb> 8GB or so
[08:20] <sebsebseb> of  course I don't want to download all of those files
[08:21] <sebsebseb> with Azureus a torrent like that when I used before
[08:21] <stdin> ktorrent lets you choose not to download some files in a torrent
[08:21] <jldugger> the question is how
[08:21] <sebsebseb> yes
[08:21] <sebsebseb> ,but only at the beggining
[08:21] <sebsebseb> I want to download one file
[08:21] <sebsebseb> wait for that to finnish downloading and whilst watching it so on
[08:21] <sebsebseb> download the next
[08:21] <sebsebseb> I don't want all the files I want to download,  downloading in one big go
[08:22] <stdin> that's not really how torrents work
[08:22] <jldugger> stdin: sure it is.
[08:22] <sebsebseb> Azurues would let me
[08:22] <jldugger> stdin: it's just not a standard preference function
[08:22] <sebsebseb> why not Ktorrent
[08:23] <sebsebseb> I carn't rmeember why I coudn't just download the torrent in Azurues instead and how I wanted since only just installed it yesterday
[08:23] <sebsebseb> ,but maybe it was,  because Firefox  had it set up to open the torrents in ktorrent every time
[08:23] <jldugger> well, i might have missed a line or two of what sebseb said.
[08:23] <sebsebseb> or something
[08:23] <cr1ss> hi, I 've just installed gutsy tribe 4, did an update, enabled nvidia driver, and each time I try to enable extra effects, it says, nvidia driver is currently running or sth.. in the end, nothing happens.. any help ?
[08:24] <sebsebseb> I instaleld Gutsy 3 I belive it was and have installed a load of updates recentlly, so that was just automatic update to tribe 4?   I  also have some issues with it only minor stuff that I want to talk about here,  but after the torrents thing is done of course
[08:25] <PriceChild> sebsebseb, Beginners are strongly advised against using Gutsy until release in october.
[08:25] <sebsebseb> yes I know :)
[08:25] <PriceChild> If you complete all updates, you will pass through tribe 4 yes.
[08:25] <PriceChild> remember tribe 4 is just a snapshot
[08:26] <sebsebseb> yes  I was just checking that,  I thought that would be the case.  and your right I am sort of a beginner.  altough used Linux for about 3 years now.  however  I expect there will be bugs with the Alphas :)
[08:26] <ohad> hi, anyone here to help with suspend and sound -- running gutsy 2.6.22-9 on an x61s
[08:26] <cr1ss> ok, I checked again and when I try to enable extra effects, it says : nvidia restricted driver is already enabled ! why's that ?
[08:27] <sebsebseb> so  any ideas regarding my ktorrent issue then?
[08:28] <PriceChild> cr1ss, ignore it and continue
[08:28] <cr1ss> I ignore it, but I don't think something changes.. and how can I see compiz fusion's settings ?
[08:29] <PriceChild> gconf
[08:29] <PriceChild> or install the settings manager
[08:29] <cr1ss> ok thank u a lot
[08:32] <sebsebseb> Alpha has bugs yes,  and is really for  developers, and bug testers :)  and is not feature complete I know I know.  So are my minor issues bugs?   In Feisty etc,  the Gnome Display Manager,  if I didn't type in the user name or password right,  it would make a noise.  dung dung something like that, also when turning or re booting the computer and loading GDM for the first time.  now it's just well  the computer making
[08:32] <sebsebseb> the beep
[08:38] <sebsebseb> also  I have no log in sound,  the other sounds seem to work though.  once after updating something a while ago or whatever,  I got the sound working,  but then after a re boot or whatever nope didn't work anymore.
[08:38] <sebsebseb> also it's a bit slow to log into the account,  I guess since it's an Alpha
[09:08] <cr1ss> how can I add workspaces ? I have 2 currently and when I click to preferences, I don't see any option.
[09:09] <yaustar> cr1ss: Right click on the workspace switch and go to prefences
[09:10] <cr1ss> I did it, no option available, is there any way to do it through terminal ?
[09:10] <yaustar> There should be an option to change the "Number of workspaces"
[09:11] <yaustar> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6cy1645
[09:11] <yaustar> oops wrong image
[09:12] <stdin> if you're using compiz you have to set the number in the compiz settings manager
[09:12] <yaustar> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4qj0rj6
[09:13] <cr1ss> well, wait to show u my screen
[09:13] <cr1ss> omg..
[09:13] <cr1ss> weird.. I changed my icons to tango, and now it appeared.. Oo
[09:13] <cr1ss> nah, compiz crushed
[09:14] <cr1ss> well then, I guess it's fixed
[09:27] <Pierre> hi
[09:27] <Pierre> any idea why gusty test4 cd ends in the gdm login instead of the live/install?
[09:28] <Pierre> tribe4 not test4 :)
[09:59] <jpwhiting> NVRM: request_mem_region failed for 16M @ 0xc0000000. This can
[09:59] <jpwhiting> hi all, anyone here using gutsy with an nvidia card?
[10:03] <tehk> jpwhiting, I am
[10:08] <jpwhiting> tehk: I just upgraded to gutsy, and can't modprobe nvidia driver
[10:08] <jpwhiting> I've tried nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new
[10:08] <jpwhiting> I'm currently running nv so I can get X to work
[10:09] <jpwhiting> I have a GeForce 7300 GS
[10:10] <jpwhiting> tehk: any idea how to get nvidia module to load?
[10:18] <jpwhiting> if not, is there any way to downgrade back to feisty until gutsy is released?
[10:26] <tehk> use the restricted-manager
[10:26] <jpwhiting> ??
[10:26] <jpwhiting> restricted-manager
[10:27] <tehk> Did youo install the shim? restricted kernel shim that is?
[10:27] <jpwhiting> no
[10:27] <jpwhiting> what's it's package called?
[10:27] <laga> "restricted-manager"
[10:28] <jpwhiting> installing now
[10:28] <tehk> 'linux-restricted-module-YOU KERNEL NUMBER
[10:28] <tehk> and yea the manager is  good to have
[10:28] <jpwhiting> ah, ok thx
[10:29] <tehk> oh and it requires a restart
[10:29] <tehk> to load the shim
[10:29] <tehk> if you did not already have it for that kernel version
[10:30] <jpwhiting> tehk: by shim you mean linux-restricted-module-...
[10:31] <tehk> yes. It is used to connect a binary blob that is non free to the kernel
[10:34] <jpwhiting> right, got it
[10:36] <jpwhiting> ah, I'm running 2.6.22-generic
[10:36] <jpwhiting> but there doesn't seem to be a restricted-module for it :(
[10:36] <jpwhiting> nm, found it
[10:39] <Pierre> tehk: do you use a 8600 by any chance?
[10:40] <jpwhiting> k, I'll restart now and see what it does... wish me luck
[10:48] <tehk> Pierre, Sorry no. They require the drivers from the nvidia site I think(or envy)
[10:59] <jpwhiting> hmm, no luck
[10:59] <jpwhiting> guess I'll use nv for a while probably
[11:21] <igorgue> where should I report a bug on flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:23] <igorgue> anyone?
[11:23] <stdin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree
[11:24] <igorgue> cool
[11:28] <igorgue> stdin, where I can get the code of the post install scrip?
[11:28] <igorgue> script
[11:28] <igorgue> because I already fix the error
[11:29] <stdin> igorgue: from the deb or from the source
[11:29] <stdin> apt-get source flashplugin-nonfree
[11:31] <igorgue> stdin, can you do a diff from there?
[11:31] <igorgue> can I
[11:31] <stdin> yeah, i guess
[11:31] <igorgue> ok, thanks
[12:08] <ohad> how does one switch back from gutsy to feisty?
[12:11] <stdin> ohad: you can't
[12:11] <ohad> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2604826&postcount=2
[12:12] <stdin> well...
[12:12] <stdin> !dowdgrade
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dowdgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <stdin> !downgrade
[12:12] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[12:16] <mattik> I got kde4 desktop and I installed KDE4 applications but I haven't see it in menu
[12:17] <mattik> seen
[12:21] <pvandewyngaerde> you have to start a kde4 session
[12:22] <pvandewyngaerde> as single session, or as second using xephyr
[12:22] <pvandewyngaerde> read this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[12:22] <mattik> I need KDM or something?
[12:23] <mattik> ok
[12:24] <pvandewyngaerde> couldn't you find that yourself ?
[12:25] <mattik> yes, but I don't have kde4 games
[12:25] <mattik> or konsole or konqueror
[12:26] <pvandewyngaerde> for games install kde4graphics-data
[12:26] <pvandewyngaerde> kde4games-data offcourse
[12:27] <stdin> mattik: konsole and konqueror are in kde-base-bin, which should have been installed by kde-base-dev
[12:28] <mattik> then I have something wrong
[12:28] <pvandewyngaerde> so you are running a xephyr KDE4 session now ?


[00:17] <guiverc> thanks again bdmurray
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[11:01] <Fantu> hi, someone can take a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/caribou/+bug/1912060 please? is a regression that cause security issue, Hirsute fixed with debian autosync focal and groovy need to be fixed, focal patch posted and tested
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