[06:59] <Jucato> zen: then you should have read Ubuntu's stand on why they use sudo instead of enabling a root account
[06:59] <raz0r> so we dont get concidered as spam ;)
[06:59] <Jucato> raz0r: support questions related to Kubuntu is not spam
[06:59] <raz0r> oh ^^
[06:59] <DeadFishMan> raz0r: Don't worry about that. As long as you are polite and pacient, there will be people here willing to help :)
[06:59] <raz0r> sure...im both of that
[06:59] <raz0r> promise ^^
[07:00] <raz0r> but how can we do then :S
[07:00] <Dr_willis> layers of security and the arguments that we all love. :)
[07:00] <CSonicGo> heh, I got doom to compile on linux
[07:01] <CSonicGo> there goes my free time :)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> to su, or not to su... lets move on to the next question.
[07:01] <Jucato> Dr_willis: let's not confuse the poor beginner :)
[07:01] <Jucato> (to Kubuntu)
[07:01] <zen> ok i finaly got in so how u update menu whit programs that don't show from console?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  :)
[07:01] <raz0r> it's the same sum...so ehm...is it my archiver ?
[07:01] <Jucato> zen: if the program is a command line app/utility, it will never show in K Menu unless you add it
[07:02] <Jucato> raz0r: check if you have gzip installed
[07:02] <raz0r> i dont
[07:02] <mena> Friends How can i Make Sn Iso File
[07:02] <Dr_willis> hmm - still some bugglets going on where a program's icon isent shoding up in the K menu untill ya logout/backin eh?
[07:02] <raz0r> got 2 archivers
[07:02] <mena> An*
[07:02] <zen> ok that's what i want to do how u add it?
[07:02] <raz0r> Ark and the other one
[07:02] <Dr_willis> mena,  i use k3b for my cd/dvd burning needs.
[07:02] <Jucato> raz0r: are you sure? just check please
[07:02] <zen> i nead to add anti rootkit and shorewall
[07:02] <raz0r> how
[07:02] <mena> Dr_willis, Can I do Iso FIle Throught It
[07:02] <Jucato> raz0r: um... in Adept?
[07:03] <raz0r> Adept ?? :D
[07:03] <Dr_willis> mena,  yes. try it and see.
[07:03] <mena> Dr_willis, okay i will thanks for your help
[07:03] <Jucato> raz0r: um.. the Package Manager
[07:04] <raz0r> got an archivemanager named "Arkivhanteraren" and that's the same...and i got Ark
[07:04] <raz0r> that's the two i can choose between
[07:04] <Jucato> raz0r: can you search for "gzip"?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> mena,  hmm..i just cant see how to do it right now. :) i recall doing it befor with k3b.
[07:05] <zen> jucato can u give me a site where to update adept repository couse really dosen't have nothing in it vs other distros as fedora or debian suse
[07:05] <raz0r> no...
[07:05] <raz0r> none
[07:05] <raz0r> nothing
[07:05] <Jucato> raz0r: hm... in console, try this: sudo apt-get install gzip
[07:06] <Jucato> zen: if you enable the correct repositories, you will have access to over 20,000+ packages
[07:06] <zen> ok how u do that?
[07:06] <Jucato> !repositories | zen
[07:06] <ubotu> zen: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:06] <zen> that's what i nead thanx
[07:06] <mena> Dr_willis, Okay
[07:06] <raz0r> no longer used ?? nvidia-kernel-common
[07:06] <Dr_willis> mena,  when you 'burn' use the 'only create image' option.
[07:06] <Jucato> raz0r: ignore that for now
[07:06] <raz0r> use "apt-get autoremove" to remove em
[07:06] <Dr_willis> mena,  then under the image tab - tell it where to write the image to.
[07:06] <DeadFishMan> zen: After enabling the universe/multiverse repositories, you may need to check the unsupported option on Adept so that you can see all the packages available
[07:06] <Jucato> raz0r: I said ignore that for now
[07:07] <raz0r> 76 not upgraded
[07:07] <Jucato> DeadFishMan: not in Adept, in Add/Remove
[07:07] <Jucato> (Adept Installer actually)
[07:07] <mena> Dr_willis, Okay i will se it right now
[07:07] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: Yep, Add/Remove... Sorry about that! :)
[07:07] <raz0r> rest of em 0...
[07:07] <Jucato> raz0r: does it install gzip, or does it say that gzip is already the latest version?
[07:07] <raz0r> 2nd alternative
[07:08] <Jucato> raz0r: that means gzip is installed... what error message (please translate in English) do you get when you ran the "gunzip UT.....run.gz" command?
[07:08] <zen> ok first i do this enabling brb
[07:08] <zen> thanx
[07:08] <raz0r> it's the latest  version
[07:08] <zen> btw it's better i use shorewall or firestarter for kubuntu u tell ?
[07:08] <Jucato> raz0r: how about the gunzip command????
[07:09] <raz0r> unexpected end of file
[07:09] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: That file MUST be corrupted somehow even if it matches the md5sum check.... :S
[07:09] <Jucato> raz0r: hm.. something's wrong with the file... you sure the md5sum output matches?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> zen,  may want to check out their wiki/docs/homepages - see what one has the features you need.
[07:10] <raz0r> send yours again
[07:10] <DeadFishMan> raz0r: f72f55d1d9b5682408e36d8b0689e857
[07:10] <Jucato> raz0r: paste here the result of the md5sum command
[07:11] <Jucato> md5sum UT2004-----.run.gz
[07:11] <raz0r> f72f55d1d9b5682408e36d8b0689e857
[07:11] <DeadFishMan> Amazing... It is the same
[07:11] <raz0r> yeah...that's the problem :S
[07:11] <Jucato> hm.. weird
[07:11] <raz0r> :S:S:S:S:S
[07:11] <Jucato> my download is almost finished...
[07:11] <raz0r> im really confused....
[07:12] <raz0r> ;D
[07:12] <raz0r> lol
[07:12] <raz0r> never seen it before
[07:12] <raz0r> +
[07:12] <raz0r> ??*
[07:12] <Jucato> nevah
[07:12] <sot1984> can anyone tell me how i can restart in vga mode?
[07:12] <Jucato> I'm the gamer type... just not the First Person Anything type
[07:12] <Jucato> er.. not even sure what UT is
[07:12] <Jucato> I mean what type :P
[07:12] <raz0r> i mostly use UT on windows...but i HATE Xp...vista...2k etc
[07:12] <DeadFishMan> Well... I gotta go... See you later, guys!
[07:13] <zen> ok done it's updating the repository very easy thanx then what i have to do?
[07:13] <Jucato> zen: then look for what you want to install and install! :)
[07:14] <Jucato> !install
[07:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:14] <Jucato> er...
[07:14] <zen> great ahah here is amsn
[07:14] <raz0r> done soon ?
[07:14] <raz0r> how many percent ?
[07:14] <Jucato> yep.. in a minite
[07:14] <blindside> hey guys
[07:14] <zen> wow im starting to love kubuntu does fedora have so many programs ?
[07:14] <Jucato> minute
[07:14] <blindside> anyone know how to fix overbright ati card?
[07:14] <raz0r> 0 operators ...351 nicknames
[07:14] <Jucato> zen: I presume it does
[07:14] <Jucato> raz0r: the ops are just hidden
[07:15] <zen> well debian has over 20.000 who can compete
[07:15] <blindside> anyone know how to make ati card not so bright after install?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> blindside,  theres gamma settings in the kde control center somewhere.
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> zen: fedora rawhide is the most upto date distro of them all
[07:15] <zen> btw i diden't do this part jucato how u do this  zen: After enabling the universe/multiverse repositories, you may need to check the unsupported option on Adept so that you can see all the packages available?
[07:16] <humboldt> do you guys know, why evms did not make it into ubuntu yet?
[07:16] <sot1984> can anyone tell me how i can restart in vga mode?
[07:16] <zen> i see h3
[07:16] <Jucato> raz0r: guess what?
[07:16] <humboldt> I mean the installer (at least the alternate installer)
[07:16] <Jucato> sot1984: what is vga mode?
[07:16] <blindside> damn even on lowest its way too bright
[07:16] <raz0r> jucato: what :P
[07:16] <Dr_willis> sot1984,  you mean boot to the console?
[07:16] <Jucato> raz0r: unexpected end of file :)
[07:16] <raz0r> damn
[07:16] <BluesKaj> blindside, sys/settings /monitor&dispaly/gamma tab
[07:16] <raz0r> does it work with the bz2 file then ??
[07:16] <zen> im missing one part do here this unsupporter option on adept nead to know how u enable it
[07:17] <sot1984> i want to install the grafics card driver
[07:17] <blindside> yeah i know BluesKaj, i put it on lowest
[07:17] <BluesKaj> bummer
[07:17] <humboldt> Wouldn't EVMS be the a great alternative for the way LVM and RAID are currently managed?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> sot1984,  ive not had to go to the console to install them - in ages...
[07:17] <Jucato> raz0r: that one is for Mac, it won't
[07:17] <blindside> i think its a bug in the drivers
[07:17] <raz0r> damn
[07:17] <sot1984> i want to install the grafics card driver does anyone knows how can i do it?
[07:17] <blindside> thats specific to this kind of card :(
[07:17] <raz0r> i HATE the file
[07:17] <Jucato> sot1984: what graphics card?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> sot1984,  what drivers for what card? check out !nvidia and !ati
[07:17] <humboldt> there are even GUIs available for EVMS (ncurses and X)
[07:17] <blindside> !ati
[07:17] <sot1984> nvidia geforce 7800
[07:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:17] <raz0r> so i cant do anything with that one ?
[07:18] <zen>  zen: After enabling the universe/multiverse repositories, you may need to check the unsupported option on Adept so that you can see all the packages available how u do that jucato?
[07:18] <Jucato> !nvidia | sot1984
[07:18] <ubotu> sot1984: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:18] <zen> btw im istalling everything now thanx firestarter to
[07:18] <Jucato> zen: are you using the Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager?
[07:18] <BluesKaj> blindside, what about your monitor  , have you tried turning the brightness down on it
[07:18] <mace__> how can i get my wlan work with WPA2 key? cant find any options
[07:18] <zen> yes
[07:18] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: what's the exact command you used? gunzip UT-blahblah.run.gz??
[07:18] <Jucato> zen: yes what?
[07:18] <zen> yes jucato why?
[07:18] <blindside> yeah BluesKaj but the brightnes was fine ebfore install, and also on windows
[07:18] <zen> im removing to why?
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Didn't work because the .run needs to be chmod +x
[07:19] <Jucato> zen: are you using the Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager? <--- I was asking what program you are using
[07:19] <blindside> it dusnt reallly adjust right since it sthe gamma setting :S
[07:19] <zen> adept
[07:19] <zen> sorry
[07:19] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: but to unzip it?
[07:19] <zen> jesus the stuff it has now im lost ahah
[07:19] <BluesKaj> check the drivers for your monitor in sys settings
[07:19] <Jucato> zen: you don't have to check any "unsupported" option. it shows all packages available
[07:20] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: the gunzip command didn't work?
[07:20] <zen> perfect but if debian has over all programs how can even fedora that is 2 best distro ever compete whit it that's rpm?
[07:20] <Jucato> rawr.. also getting an unexpected EOF here
[07:20] <zen> maby has updates but debian is debian over 20.000
[07:21] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: The gunzip command worked but the | didn't
[07:21] <zen> i got so much stuff i can't even read it now from adept ahah nead ages to check it all out
[07:21] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: strange... couldn't get it to unzip...
[07:21] <Jucato> zen: usually, you don't got through each package in the list... :)
[07:21] <mena> Dr_Willis, I need to mount the iso file do you know how
[07:22] <Jucato> gunzip I mean...
[07:22] <animimotus> how can I switch the general sound output to my usb headset?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !loop
[07:22] <raz0r> so h3sp4wn did get it to work ?
[07:22] <animimotus> the headset is recongnize by a lsusb
[07:22] <mace__> how can i get my wlan work with WPA2 key? cant find any options
[07:22] <zen> i activated firestarter now i just set what i nead in it and then will be just as a xp firewall right does all himself?
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <Dr_willis> mena,  mount command and the 'loop' options.. google for 'mount iso file linux' should show examples
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !iso
[07:22] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[07:23] <Jucato> !firestarter | zen
[07:23] <ubotu> zen: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:23] <Dr_willis> mena,  "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>"    (make the mountpoint first)
[07:23] <Xera> hmm
[07:23] <Jucato> !iso | mena
[07:23] <ubotu> mena: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[07:23] <Jucato> Dr_willis: that one ^^^^???
[07:23] <mena> Dr_willis, okay i will see that
[07:23] <Xera> i got a dvd writer for my bday, but linux doesn't pick it up.. any tips?
[07:24] <zen> fine im shocked on how fast kubuntu is as im 64 bit amd 3000
[07:24] <zen> it's so fast it's hard to catch it up
[07:24] <Xera> it's a Samsung writemaster btw
[07:24] <blindside> man this brightness crap is pissing me off
[07:24] <blindside> how to acess ati control panel again?
[07:25] <Jucato> g'night!
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Gee - i just perphrials->mounitor/ and the gamma tab. :) be sure to go into administator mode.
[07:25] <zen> ok jucato this is to hard for me that's why i putted firestarter and set it so it does all alone when im better whit unix i can touch iptable
[07:27] <Xera> uh wtf
[07:27] <Xera> can't k3b handle mp3?
[07:27] <Xera> _._
[07:27] <zen> what is skip redundant events for and should i keep it on or off in firestarter?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Xera,  that qnestion is answered on the Kubuntu FAQ
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Xera,  theres a package you need to install.
[07:28] <Xera> well what formats does it handle?
[07:28] <Xera> i just wanna test if i can burn something
[07:28] <Xera> lol
[07:28] <Dr_willis> No idea.. ive only used mp3 and ogg.
[07:28] <zen> brb
[07:28] <Dr_willis> i imagine it can handle wav also.
[07:28] <Xera> ooooooooooh
[07:28] <Xera> it does pick it up
[07:28] <Xera> =D
[07:29] <Xera> hmm
[07:29] <Xera> but doesn't burn
[07:29] <Xera> XD
[07:30] <Xera> :-( Failed to change write speed: 2770->3324
[07:30] <Dr_willis> rerun that k3b setup tool perhaps?
[07:30] <Xera> what setup tool?
[07:30] <Xera> lol
[07:30] <Xera> it came installed
[07:30] <Dr_willis> its in the menus
[07:30] <Dr_willis> the k3b menus
[07:30] <Xera> hmm
[07:31] <Xera> i guess my dvd burner doesn't support 1x
[07:31] <Xera> lol
[07:31] <Xera> now it says it's written
[07:31] <Xera> but my drive isn't displayed in konqueror
[07:31] <Xera> ;/
[07:32] <surgy> how do i check if i have libgpod module installed?
[07:33] <K-Ryan> !fglrx
[07:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:33] <K-Ryan> Ubotu is back!
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is back! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[07:33] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:33] <Xera> damn that trumpet sound is so annoying
[07:34] <surgy> how do i check if libgpod is installed?
[07:36] <Xera> >.<
[07:36] <Xera> w00
[07:36] <Xera> it works
[07:36] <Xera> :>
[07:42] <Xera> hmm
[07:49] <tanlaan> hello everyone
[07:51] <ubuntu> what is cracking_
[07:52] <tanlaan> ubuntu: why does that matter? and in what context
[07:52] <K-Ryan> where is xorg.conf located?
[07:52] <sampan> after my last reboot, a usb hd has stopped being detected by kubuntu.  doesn't show up auto-mounted in konq ... my windows laptop sees it just fine though
[07:52] <Tobias_2> hello all nice buntu people:)
[07:53] <sampan> k-ryan  locate xorg.conf  in konsole will show you
[07:53] <surgy> what is the mount command for an external media device?
[07:54] <surgy> sudo mount %d ?
[07:54] <heinkel_111> does anyone have any experience with nano being slow to start?
[07:54] <heinkel_111> i go: sudo nano myfile
[07:54] <tanlaan> heinkel_111: nope, works nice and fast for me
[07:55] <heinkel_111> and it takes a long time, like something may be locking access
[07:55] <sampan> heh, okay, so now NO usb devices are being mounted by kubnutu ... anyone want to help get my usb working again?
[07:55] <Xera> ftw is kubnutu?
[07:55] <Xera> XXD
[07:55] <hatta> lol
[07:55] <soulrider> hi everyone
[07:55] <tanlaan> oh, does anyone know where one might find drivers for a wireless card?  In component main, is optional. Version 2.02f-28 (edgy), package size 1371 kB, installed size 5320 kB
[07:56] <Xera> gnomefreak: ;o sorry
[07:56] <BluesKaj> !ndsiwrapper
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Xera> !myInternetSucks
[07:57] <BluesKaj> oops wrong spelling again
[07:57] <sebbar> ok found it
[07:57] <gnomefreak> !ndiswrapper
[07:57] <sampan> tanlaan  well i didn't until just an hour ago when i rebooted after/during a hard-lockup -- so i'm guessing something is hosed
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myInternetSucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:59] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[07:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:59] <BluesKaj> hehe
[08:00] <K-Chris> Hey guys it's K-Ryan, on my friend's laptop though
[08:01] <K-Ryan> I'm setting up his opengl stuff with fglrx
[08:01] <K-Chris> But it doesn't seem to be going right.
[08:01] <K-Chris> His laptop is running an Ati Radeon Xpress 1150
[08:01] <tanlaan> can anyone help me identify the chipset of my wireless card? If I remember right, I believe it was bcm43xx. But I dont know if thats right.
[08:02] <tanlaan> My wireless card is a Buffalo High Power g Wireless Card
[08:03] <HymnToLife> tanlaan, is it PCI or USB ?
[08:04] <Dr_willis> tanlaan,  try 'lspci' yet ?
[08:04] <tanlaan> Dr_willis: never mind i figured out how to find out if it was, and it was
[08:04] <tanlaan> lol
[08:04] <tanlaan> Dr_willis: i used  lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[08:05] <Dr_willis> !810
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <Dr_willis> !intel
[08:05] <anatoliy> hey guys what is the difference between grep and locate or find
[08:05] <Dr_willis> whats the factoid for the intel 810 chipset video cards.. heh
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <Dr_willis> grep searches text files.
[08:05] <Dr_willis> locate/find normally search the filesystem.
[08:05] <HymnToLife> !ubotu | Dr_willis
[08:05] <ubotu> Dr_willis: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:05] <Dr_willis> locate uses a database thats updated every so often
[08:06] <anatoliy> Dr_willis: thank you
[08:06] <Dr_willis> find has so many options/features - its... scary . :)
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> ubotu: know anything useful yet ?
[08:06] <tanlaan> dang it :(((, the guide I was using just basically told me that everyone who the guid didnt work for was using my wireless card D:
[08:06] <Dr_willis> !search 810
[08:07] <ubotu> Found: 0x40001d-#ubuntu-xgl
[08:08] <surgy> where is the device manager?
[08:08] <Dr_willis> device manager is a windows thang. :) theres a few similer tools out however.
[08:08] <tanlaan> adept in Kubuntu uses the Ubuntu repositories doesnt it?
[08:09] <Dr_willis> tanlaan,  kubuntu and ubuntu and most of the *ubuntu variants use the same repos - yes.
[08:09] <surgy> dr_willis: im looking for something to tell me if my ipod is mounted. if not i need to get it mounted so that i can point amarok at it
[08:09] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try the 'mount' command in a shell. :)
[08:09] <Dr_willis> surgy,  or perhaps kinfocenter
[08:10] <tanlaan> Dr_willis: thank you, just making sure
[08:11] <soulrider> does anyone know if its posible to connect a laptop screen and keyboard to a PC ?
[08:11] <surgy> dr_willis: "ipod" shows up in kinfocenter under usb devices, i assume that means its working, but i dont see a mount point
[08:13] <surgy> dr_willis: how do i mount "ipod"
[08:15] <unix_infidel> !ipod | surgy
[08:15] <ubotu> surgy: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[08:16] <unix_infidel> soulrider: what do you mean laptop screen and keyboard to a pc?
[08:16] <soulrider> well, i have a broken laptop with a working keyboard and screen
[08:16] <soulrider> i wanna eb able to use them on my PC
[08:16] <unix_infidel> soulrider: broken how?
[08:16] <soulrider> well
[08:16] <soulrider> i was open
[08:16] <soulrider> and there was a leak on the roof
[08:16] <unix_infidel> as in it wont boot?
[08:17] <soulrider> and it got filled with water
[08:17] <surgy> unix_infidel: that doesnt help, amarok says that my ipod isnt mounted, and it wont automaticly add it
[08:17] <soulrider> quite literally
[08:17] <Xera> damn it
[08:17] <Xera> i got a copy of nero6 with my dvdr
[08:17] <Xera> but it's for windows, and has no key -.-
[08:17] <soulrider> Xera: use k3b :P
[08:17] <unix_infidel> soulrider: nope. you can find an adapter for the LCD but that's a waste of time.  It's better to sell the thing for parts.
[08:17] <Xera> soulrider: it sucks
[08:17] <soulrider> Xera: it shouldnt ask for one
[08:17] <Xera> nub
[08:17] <Xera> i dled the linux version from the website
[08:17] <Xera> but it needs a key
[08:18] <soulrider> unix_infidel: and the keyboard
[08:18] <soulrider> ?
[08:18] <Xera> i have a legal copy, but it has no damn key
[08:18] <Xera> XD
[08:18] <Xera> there's some numbers on the front but they don't work
[08:18] <Xera> ;/
[08:18] <soulrider> lol
[08:18] <unix_infidel> soulrider: unless you are good at soldering i'd say just chop the laptop and sell it for parts.
[08:18] <soulrider> why would you want nero anyways
[08:18] <Xera> "OEM version for sale with DVD Writer only."
[08:18] <Xera> oem?
[08:18] <soulrider> yeah
[08:18] <soulrider> thats manufacturer or something
[08:18] <soulrider> its supposed to only work in windows with that writer
[08:19] <soulrider> lol unix_infidel
[08:19] <h3sp4wn> Xera: If you have a windows installation you could find it in the registery
[08:19] <Xera> h3sp4wn: windows is broken XD
[08:20] <surgy> is there an entry i need to make in fstab?
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> Xera: I wouldn't use it anyway
[08:20] <Xera> well i would
[08:20] <Xera> lol
[08:20] <Xera> maybe i could wine it
[08:20] <Xera> then get it from the wine registry
[08:20] <Xera> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[08:20] <soulrider> Xera: just use k3b :P
[08:20] <Xera> if the damn dvdr would eject
[08:21] <Xera> soulrider: no
[08:21] <Xera> it sucks
[08:21] <Xera> it won't even format a dvd properly
[08:21] <soulrider> it doesnt
[08:21] <Xera> the files are still there
[08:21] <Xera> _._
[08:21] <soulrider> what kind of DVD? R or RW? :P
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> Xera: Try one from google 1A23-0096-5034-8999-8052-2067 for example
[08:21] <Xera> soulrider: rw ofc
[08:21] <Xera> h3sp4wn: lol
[08:21] <Xera> should you really be putting that in this channel?
[08:21] <Xera> xD
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> Xera: google has to be ok
[08:22] <surgy> ok so my hard drives are "sda" and "sdb" so what whould my ipod be?
[08:22] <soulrider> sdc
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> Xera: it can do no evil etc etc
[08:22] <Xera> h3sp4wn: lol
[08:22] <Dr_willis> surgy,  i would guess sdc.. but other usb gizmos may be in there.
[08:23] <soulrider> i dont get it, i got over 800 mb of free RAM, but for 31 mb or my swap used...
[08:23] <Xera> wow, it worked..
[08:23] <Xera> lol
[08:23] <Dr_willis> surgy,  look in /media/  and media:/  - it may be accessed via /media/ipod
[08:23] <fdoving> soulrider: swap doesn't behave like you would think. it's smarter :)
[08:23] <soulrider> lol, ok fdoving
[08:23] <fdoving> soulrider: search kerneltrap.org for swap.
[08:23] <fdoving> if you want more info.
[08:23] <soulrider> i was thinking of buying another GB of ram for my pc... but i dont really play games anymore... its knida pointless
[08:23] <surgy> dr_willis: its not in media, im gonna try to add it to my fstab, dont know what im doing but im gonna try it anyways
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> soulrider: the -ck patches have a swap prefetch function which is good
[08:24] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try media:
[08:24] <surgy> dr_willis: i looked in my media folder its not there only my cdrom and my windows hard drive is in media
[08:24] <Dr_willis> surgy,  try media:/ i mean. :)
[08:24] <Xera> hurrrrrrrrr
[08:24] <Dr_willis> not the /media folder.  media:/ is special./
[08:24] <Xera> i started the installer
[08:24] <Xera> it gives me my key
[08:24] <Xera> XD
[08:25] <soulrider> is there a way to have a program allways on RAM so it loads faster? :P
[08:25] <Xera> unpussible
[08:25] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  going back to DOS days aint we?
[08:25] <surgy> dr_willis: "bash: media:/: No such file or directory"
[08:25] <Xera> newb
[08:25] <soulrider> lol, hwy Dr_willis? i was too young when i used DOS
[08:25] <Xera> in konqueror
[08:25] <Xera> _._
[08:25] <Xera> or cd /media
[08:25] <Xera> -.-
[08:26] <surgy> man its not in /media!
[08:26] <bxnp> hi everybody
[08:26] <Dr_willis> surgy,  dont use media:/ from the shell.. use it from konwueror
[08:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> can you tell me where the $KDEDIR is located?
[08:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> or what it is
[08:26] <Xera> [BTF] Chm0d: ~/.kde
[08:26] <surgy> dr_willis: yeah all thats there is my two hard drives
[08:27] <Dr_willis> i thought $KDEDIR was the system wide dir where the kde stuff wa installed to.
[08:27] <Dr_willis> surgy,  in 'theory' it should show up thee when plugged in.
[08:27] <Xera> how do i show the permissions of a drive?
[08:27] <Xera> ls -?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: just make the dir. ~/.kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop and edit the file to read whats in the box
[08:27] <Xera> ah
[08:28] <Xera> nvm found it
[08:28] <surgy> dr_willis: i know but for some reason its not auto mounting, so ive been trying to figure out how to manually mount it and then tell it to auto mount any time its plugged in after i get to there i will be able to open it in amarok
[08:28] <Dr_willis> Xera,  a windows drive - permissions are set when its mounted.
[08:28] <heinkel_111> blah, i am following the ubuntu guide on how to set up nis
[08:28] <Xera> Dr_willis: no
[08:28] <Dr_willis> Xera,  for ext2/3 its the files/dirs on the drive that have permissions settings.
[08:28] <heinkel_111> and in the final stage my superuser seems to lock up
[08:28] <Xera> nero couldn't access the dvd driv
[08:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> i get an error gnomefreak
[08:28] <Xera> drive*
[08:28] <Xera> lol
[08:28] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: i went through and made a folder in ~/.kde/share named autostart and than made a file panel.desktop
[08:28] <[BTF] Chm0d> i did what it asked me to do
[08:28] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: i also did thats why i did it manually
[08:28] <Dr_willis> Xera,  dvd. heh - not sure there. that may be more of a /dev/ permission or group permission.
[08:28] <gnomefreak> and it works here now
[08:29] <Xera> Dr_willis: nvm i found it
[08:29] <surgy> dr_willis: can you help me mount it and then auto mount any time its plugged in?
[08:29] <Xera> ;p
[08:29] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  the name is " .kde/Autostart "  i thought.
[08:29] <daseeb> hi
[08:29] <[BTF] Chm0d> ahh so it isn't capitalized?
[08:29] <Dr_willis> ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> should be /.kde/autostart?
[08:30] <Dr_willis> it IS capatolized :)
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> well mine was
[08:30] <fdoving> !autostart
[08:30] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[08:30] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: i used nautilus but you can use konq. in the same way. open konq and navagate to ~/.kde/share than right click and make folder name the folder autostart than open autostart and right clikc make text file and name it panel.desktop
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> and i created a file panel.desktop with the folloing
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> [Desktop Entry]
[08:30] <gnomefreak> than edit the panel.desktop file to have those 2 lines in it
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> hidden=true
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> lemme tell you what error i get
[08:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> brb
[08:31] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: no file with that name
[08:31] <Dr_willis> Autostart is not n .kde/share - its in .kde/     from what ive seen
[08:31] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: you make ~/.kde/share/sutostart
[08:31] <gnomefreak> autostrart
[08:31] <daseeb> is there a possibility to create a kubuntu live usb harddisk. I read a lot of installing kubuntu on a usb harddisk. But what I want is to get a real Live system that recognizes and boots on nearly every hardware like a kubuntu live CD
[08:31] <gnomefreak> than make the file panel.desktop in ~/.kde/share/sutostart
[08:32] <Dr_willis> gnomefreak,  and how is that diffrent from .kde/Autostart ?
[08:32] <gnomefreak> im sure mk ~/.kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop works too
[08:32] <Dr_willis> heh.
[08:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> The desktop entry file /home/rich/.kde/Autostart/panel.desktop has no Type=... entry.
[08:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats my error
[08:32] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis: for all users maybe?
[08:32] <Dr_willis> we need a RFC for Autostart dirs!
[08:32] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: i told you how to do it.. Make each place seperate
[08:32] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: are you on kde or gnome atm?
[08:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> kde
[08:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> what do you mean each place separate?
[08:33] <Dr_willis> ive only used simple shell scripts in my Autostart dirs
[08:33] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: open konq home dir
[08:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> its open
[08:33] <Xera> ok, this is probably illegal but. i own a legal copy of windows, but dell didn't give me a windows disc.. and windows is broken.. so i need a disc(ofc), could someone give me a link to a download?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: open .kde
[08:33] <fdoving> Xera: no, we can not.
[08:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> open
[08:33] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: ok now open share
[08:33] <Xera> fdoving: i own a legal copy ;(
[08:33] <Dr_willis> Xera,  Your serial # may or may not work with those torrent site disks.
[08:34] <Dr_willis> Xera,  depening if its a 'restore' or a actual install disk.
[08:34] <Xera> >:
[08:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> open
[08:34] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: inside share right click on an empty area and click make folder
[08:34] <Xera> i need a restore disc i guess
[08:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> the folder is in share?
[08:34] <zen> ok back
[08:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> thought it was just autostart
[08:34] <gnomefreak> name the folder autostart
[08:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats my problem
[08:34] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: make the folder
[08:34] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: just follow what i tell you to do and in 1 minute you will have it working
[08:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> done
[08:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> go ahead
[08:35] <gnomefreak> now open the folder you just made named autostart
[08:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> yep
[08:36] <gnomefreak> right click and click on create new text file
[08:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> yep
[08:36] <gnomefreak> name the text file panel.desktop
[08:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[08:36] <zen> ok i nead to know how to set ubuntu resolution optimal i got a 17 `lcd now it's set 10280x1024 75 hz but gives me eye pain if im not light on how do i have to set resolution?
[08:36] <zen> kubuntu*
[08:36] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: now edit the file to have those 2 lines in it
[08:36] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: restart kde :)
[08:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> k done
[08:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> brb
[08:37] <[BTF] Chm0d> exact same error
[08:38] <zen> any one can help on what i asked?
[08:38] <gnomefreak> you shouldnt get any error.
[08:38] <Dr_willis> zen,  you install the video card driver for your video card yet?
[08:38] <zen> no as i got nvidia 7900GS has drivers just for xp
[08:39] <Dr_willis> zen,  time to install the drivers then.
[08:39] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[08:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <[BTF] Chm0d> well i got rid of that error but still have the panel?
[08:39] <zen> ok how i do that i nead u help me 1 time on linux
[08:39] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: open ~/.kde/share/autostart/panel.desktop
[08:39] <[BTF] Chm0d> tis open
[08:39] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: is anything in it?
[08:39] <zen> can u do it whit adept click?
[08:39] <Xera> hmm
[08:39] <[BTF] Chm0d> yes those two lines
[08:39] <Xera> apparently because i edited the partition table my dell restore partition won't boot
[08:40] <heinkel_111> ehm...
[08:40] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: and your sure its /.kde/share/autostart not ~/.kde/autostart
[08:40] <Xera> is there anyway to force it to boot? (wrong channel i know) >:
[08:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> yep
[08:40] <Xera> i tried telling grub to boot it
[08:40] <Xera> but it won't
[08:40] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: are the words int he panel.desktop file highlighted?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> [BTF] Chm0d: and you did use all lowercase for folders and files?
[08:41] <[BTF] Chm0d> desktop entry is in bold and hidden is brown
[08:41] <[BTF] Chm0d> yes
[08:41] <heinkel_111> can someone help me, i have a login failure ... the whole login system apparently became corrupted as I was trying to set up nis..sudo: pam_authenticate: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info..
[08:41] <zen> so what drivers i must use for my nvidia 7900GS as they are only for xp general ones?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> it worked here :(
[08:42] <heinkel_111> but to redo changes i have to come in with a sudo, but i can't get a password check...see the dilemma :S
[08:42] <Schuenemann> how do I install ClearLooks and QtCurved?
[08:42] <Schuenemann> !clearlooks
[08:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> panel gone now
[08:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> second time a charm
[08:42] <heinkel_111> this was one instance where a true root shell would have been helpful
[08:42] <shinigami> hi how do i check which version of kubuntu i'm using in the terminal?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> ;)
[08:43] <zen> isen't there a easy way to get nvidia drivers for 7900GS whit adept im lost
[08:43] <Paul-Way> Hi.. I have problem.. when I'm trying to run some stuff, i get error
[08:43] <Schuenemann> what happened to the bot?
[08:43] <Paul-Way> char-server: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by char-server)
[08:43] <Xera> install glibc
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clearlooks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <Xera> from adept
[08:43] <Paul-Way> And there isn't any package named glibc
[08:43] <Xera> !glibc
[08:43] <Xera> lagg0r
[08:43] <Xera> lol
[08:44] <zen> are u speaking to me xera?
[08:44] <Xera> hm?
[08:44] <makuseru> how do i fix the problem of flash objects being ontop of all ojects in a page on Fire Fox
[08:44] <Xera> where?
[08:44] <Xera> !glibc
[08:44] <Paul-Way> !glibc
[08:44] <Paul-Way> What is should do?
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <roderyk> I'm trying to compile cl-elephant, and I'm getting errors related to missing libpthread. So I tried to grab libpthread-dev, and I get the following conflict:
[08:45] <roderyk> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libpthread-dev_2.0.7-2ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[08:45] <roderyk>  trying to overwrite `/usr/include/pthread.h', which is also in package libc6-dev
[08:45] <HymnToLife> makuseru, you write to Adobe and ask them to make a decent Flash Player for Linux
[08:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> whats cmd for terminal in run box?
[08:45] <makuseru> ha
[08:45] <roderyk> I can't exactly remove libc6-dev since apt-get would want to remove essentially all -dev packages. Any suggestions?
[08:45] <gecko_> hey all
[08:45] <surgy> !mount usb
[08:46] <mirko> who know how to make an ssh tunnel?
[08:46] <DeadFishMan> mirko: For X?
[08:46] <gecko_> i gotta question everyone... im using automatix2... and it wants me to install java... how to i select OK?  it jus says <ok> and i hit enter and nothing happens..is there a special button?
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <mirko> no for 4712
[08:46] <Paul-Way> HEH.
[08:46] <DeadFishMan> mirko: What is 4712?
[08:47] <mirko> the port to connect to amuled
[08:47] <mirko> with amulegui
[08:47] <HymnToLife> roderyk, so you try to install libpthread-dev via apt or manualli via dpkg ?
[08:47] <roderyk> via apt
[08:47] <HymnToLife> hmm
[08:47] <roderyk> I suppose I could try manual overriding, but sounds like a bug...
[08:47] <DeadFishMan> mirko: Dunno. Does it support encrypted connections in the first place?
[08:48] <HymnToLife> yep
[08:48] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[08:48] <mirko> no, it doesn't
[08:48] <HymnToLife> sounds like somethong you should file a BR for
[08:48] <anatoliy> what is the apt command to search, is it apt search or apt get search
[08:48] <Paul-Way> Wah.
[08:48] <DeadFishMan> anatoliy: apt-cache search <package>
[08:48] <gnomefreak> anatoliy: apt-cache search
[08:48] <HymnToLife> anatoliy, apt-cache search
[08:48] <shinigami> hi how do i check the diskspace of a particular directory? ls -lh only shows indiviual file
[08:48] <Paul-Way> Anybody who knows howto solve the glibc thingie?
[08:48] <DeadFishMan> shinigami: Use du
[08:49] <anatoliy> thank you
[08:49] <gecko_> i gotta question everyone... im using automatix2... and it wants me to install java... how to i select OK?  it jus says <ok> and i hit enter and nothing happens..is there a special button?
[08:49] <DeadFishMan> shinigami: du -h shows the directory size in MBs
[08:49] <BluesKaj> anyone using "kickoff" menu ?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> what command does the menu run to open?
[08:50] <DeadFishMan> !filelight
[08:50] <mirko> thank you deadfishman
[08:51] <DeadFishMan> mirko: You're welcome, mate!
[08:51] <shinigami> yea but du also check the sub directories?
[08:51] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[08:51] <shinigami> can i just check the files only
[08:52] <mirko> thank you
[08:52] <DeadFishMan> shinigami: du will calculate the amount of Mbs that the files are using on a given directory. If you want to see the file sizes individually then you oughta be using ls -l
[08:53] <Schuenemann> how I install ClearLooks GTK2 widget engine?
[08:53] <DeadFishMan> Schuenemann: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[08:54] <shinigami> i want the total of the files.. exclude sub directories
[08:54] <Schuenemann> how do I choose it, after installed?
[08:54] <shinigami> so i shd just.. add one by one?
[08:54] <tanlaan> how can i add something to uboto
[08:54] <Schuenemann> DeadFishMan: I already installed, how do I start using it?
[08:55] <tanlaan> *ubotu
[08:55] <fdoving> tanlaan: what do you want to add?
[08:55] <DeadFishMan> Schuenemann: I don't use Ubuntu but I believe that GNOME has a Gnome Control Center or something along these lines. On Kubuntu, go to Control Center, then Appearance and then GTK styles and Fonts. Choose Clearlooks there.
[08:55] <tanlaan> something on bcm43xx
[08:55] <Schuenemann> I'm using kubuntu dapper
[08:55] <tanlaan> so when you type !bcm43xx it brings up a link
[08:55] <tanlaan> !bcm43xx
[08:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:56] <tanlaan> hmm
[08:56] <roderyk> HymnToLife: the BR has been reported already. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pth/+bug/69585   Does that mean that as an Edgy user all I can do is sit and wait?
[08:56] <DeadFishMan> Schuenemann: You can make KDE apps and GNOME apps have a similar look and feel afterwards if you install the package kde-style-klearlook and select it for KDE
[08:56] <Schuenemann> DeadFishMan: I don't see it there,,, there's a new entry, but no text for it
[08:56] <tanlaan> hmm well the link i wanted to add, is in the forums, and it helped me get my wireless card to work
[08:56] <Schuenemann> and choosing it seems the same as Raleigh
[08:56] <manchicken_> tanlaan: Try using DriverLoader from linuxant.  With bcm43xx you have to use non-free software anyway.  Might as well use one that works I suppose.
[08:57] <tanlaan> manchicken: i got it to work
[08:57] <manchicken_> I've never gotten ndiswrapper to work properly.
[08:57] <DeadFishMan> shinigami: du will scan all the directories beneath the current directory recursively but it will print the size for each and everyone of those directories
[08:57] <manchicken_> But that might be since I'm on amd64.
[08:57] <fdoving> tanlaan: i suggest editing the wiki page then.
[08:58] <DeadFishMan> Schuenemann: The I dunno. Try to close the Control Center (or System Settings, whatever) and then reopen it.
[08:58] <fdoving> i use the feisty bcm43xx module, works nicely.
[08:58] <manchicken_> fdoving: mmm, colaboration.
[08:58] <manchicken_> fdoving: The kernel driver with fwcutter KILLED my machine.
[08:58] <manchicken_> fdoving: Like, IRQs were in 4-digits, etc.
[08:58] <tanlaan> fdoving: nevermind, it looks way more than complete already haha
[08:58] <manchicken_> fdoving: But that method is known to be quite unstable for amd64... yet again.
[08:59] <manchicken_> No love for the amd64 brethren.
[08:59] <manchicken_> "Why's everybody always pickin' on me?"
[08:59] <manchicken_> ^_^
[08:59] <manchicken_> FINALLY
[08:59] <fdoving> manchicken_: works nicely on powerpc.
[08:59] <manchicken> fdoving: That's cool.  It doesn't like my amd64 at all.
[09:00] <fdoving> manchicken: are you on feisty?
[09:00] <manchicken> Naw, edgy.
[09:00] <fdoving> that explains alot.
[09:00] <manchicken> I'm developing for feisty though.
[09:00] <Icemong> what's the state of edgy?  is it SAFE yet? lol
[09:00] <manchicken> I won't risk destablizing my machine.
[09:00] <manchicken> Edgy is quite nice.
[09:00] <Icemong> cool
[09:00] <Icemong> I gather you're on AMD64 too?
[09:01] <manchicken> I was gonna switch to feisty, but Riddell told me to stick with edgy so I can keep hacking.
[09:01] <manchicken> Icemong: Yeah.  It's quite nice.
[09:01] <gnomefreak> fdoving: your here ;) what command does the menu run. the apps menu
[09:01] <manchicken> Icemong: This proc shows much love.
[09:01] <regx> anyone get beryl working in feisty?
[09:01] <Paul-Way> Plz, help.
[09:01] <gnomefreak> regx: wait for the next release
[09:01] <gnomefreak> regx: join #ubuntu-xgl and read topic
[09:01] <Icemong> Great
[09:02] <manchicken> So, here's a quick poll... how many people have beryl running, but not a regular backup schedule?
[09:02] <manchicken> heh
[09:02] <regx> I am have a thinkpad t60 with ati radeon x1400 and get the caught signal 11 error
[09:02] <gnomefreak> manchicken: try in #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:02] <manchicken> gnomefreak: You're no fun ^_^
[09:02] <phobiac> I have beryl running but don't use it too often.
[09:02] <bxnp> andybody know's what to do with a Packages.gz file
[09:02] <Icemong> Could someone help me with what I'm sure is a noob mistake?
[09:03] <DeadFishMan> !ask | Icemong
[09:03] <ubotu> Icemong: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:03] <tz0r> um this may be a dub question but where the heck is hotplug support in dapper?
[09:03] <regx> bxpn: in feisty?
[09:03] <Icemong> while trying to compile wine, I get this line:  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:03] <bxnp> what regx
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Icemong: install build-essential
[09:03] <manchicken> gnomefreak: You seen Riddell?  I'm not quite sure how he wants this adept_batch user experience done.
[09:03] <DeadFishMan> Icemong: Why don't you use wine from the repositories?
[09:03] <regx> bxpn: You have Beryl run rc2?ning in Feisty
[09:03] <bxnp> its for apt-get but dont know how to use it
[09:04] <tz0r> apt-cache search hotplug   finds basically nothing.....you have to install manuall?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> manchicken: not since this morning
[09:04] <Icemong> build-essential is already the newest version
[09:04] <manchicken> I have been trying to raise him since 20:00 CST last night.
[09:04] <Icemong> DeadFishMan: I couldn't find the package.
[09:04] <gnomefreak> regx: beta1 is broken please wait for beryl updates
[09:04] <bxnp> no regx
[09:04] <gnomefreak> regx: they should be out by monday
[09:04] <bxnp> this is the pacakges list for kubuntu dapper,
[09:04] <regx> ok will do - thanks
[09:05] <DeadFishMan> Icemong: Install automatix2. It will create the proper entries on your sources.list and then fetch the latest wine for you
[09:05] <phobiac> DeadFish, I don't think we reccomend automatix.
[09:05] <phobiac> !automatix
[09:05] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:05] <DeadFishMan> phobiac: Really? Why?
[09:06] <DeadFishMan> Wow... I've heard some of this on the automatix forum but I'm yet to break a working system using it
[09:06] <gnomefreak> DeadFishMan: its a bad hack and has broken a number of peopels systems that we were unable to recover from for them
[09:06] <Paul-Way> how i can add daemons to autostart?
[09:06] <Paul-Way> ie. ssh
[09:06] <gnomefreak> DeadFishMan: it had a tendancy to upgrade libc6
[09:07] <DeadFishMan> gnomefreak: I see... Good to know
[09:07] <fdoving> gnomefreak: sorry, the delay, 'dcop kicker kicker showKMenu'
[09:07] <zen> can u tell me how to add to menu the programs i installed from adept that don't show?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> fdoving: without kicker?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> delays are fine
[09:07] <fdoving> gnomefreak: then you're lost.
[09:07] <gnomefreak> crap
[09:07] <gnomefreak> i got rid of kicker
[09:07] <fdoving> gnomefreak: what do you use instead of kicker?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> using ummmmmmmm oh kooldock
[09:07] <makuseru> how can i open a program in a virtual desktop
[09:08] <gnomefreak> it has a box for show menu but it doesnt open
[09:08] <fdoving> gnomefreak: does alt+f1 work?
[09:08] <zen> i nead to know how to add to menu programs that don't show isntalled whit adept
[09:08] <arrenlex> I can't change KDE language. If I click on another language in kcontrol it just goes back to enUS. Why?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> fdoving: no it didnt seem to do anything
[09:08] <Schuenemann> right click the menu and select eidt
[09:08] <Schuenemann> edit
[09:09] <fdoving> gnomefreak: then i have no clue, i don't use kooldock or similar.
[09:09] <phobiac> makuseru: You can right click on the menubar of a program and switch it to another desktop.
[09:09] <phobiac> makuseru: No idea how to make it open in another one though. Sorry.
[09:09] <gnomefreak> fdoving: ty ill keep hacking at it see what i can do
[09:09] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: On KDE, open the application, give a right-click on its window decoration, click on Advanced > Special Application Settings. Then check Desktop and choose the Desktop that you want the application to open.
[09:09] <makuseru> phobiac: i dont need it on another desktop, i need a virtual desktop
[09:10] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: KDE allows you to specify that on a per app basis. :)
[09:10] <makuseru> deadfishman: not another dektop, a vitrual desktop like window, where i can run a fullscreen program in it and still do everything else
[09:11] <bxnp> in other words how can i import a pkg archive
[09:11] <phobiac> makuseru: Yes, that's what DeadFishMan and I are talking about.
[09:11] <bxnp> Anybody know's how to do this
[09:11] <tz0r> this answers the question about missing hotplug
[09:11] <tz0r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167296
[09:11] <makuseru> you just said switch to another desktop
[09:11] <makuseru> i dont want another desktop
[09:11] <tz0r> ' Hotplug in Dapper 6.06: where is it?'
[09:12] <phobiac> makuseru: Oh wait. You mean how a window open with the app running in it?
[09:12] <menace> !adept crash fix
[09:12] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:13] <makuseru> phoabic: eys
[09:13] <makuseru> yes87
[09:14] <DeadFishMan> !xnest | makuseru
[09:14] <ubotu> xnest: Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1 (edgy), package size 1295 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[09:14] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: Is something like that what you are looking for?
[09:14] <anatoliy> see y ou guys tomorrow, thanks for all the help
[09:15] <DeadFishMan> anatoliy: See ya!
[09:15] <makuseru> no, because there is a command for it
[09:15] <makuseru> thats how i run W
[09:15] <makuseru> ine
[09:16] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: Wine has it own configuration settings where you can specify if you want its windows to be managed (with WM window decorators), unmanaged (Windows window decorators) or some sort of virtual desktop
[09:16] <zen> can u help me install general drivers for nvdia then im 1 time on linux can't alone
[09:17] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: If you are looking for the latter, I don't think that there is such a thing for native X apps. Xnest may be a start, though.
[09:17] <DeadFishMan> !nvidia
[09:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <makuseru> im installing xnest now, thanks
[09:17] <zen> dead can u link me a site repository what ever to install them whit adept?
[09:17] <zen> im not able manual
[09:17] <makuseru> zen: automatix has them
[09:18] <Xera> zen: what card do you have?
[09:18] <zen> nvidia 7900GS has drivers just for xp
[09:18] <makuseru> zen: automatix has them
[09:18] <zen> but diden't ubotu say it brakes ubuntu automatix?
[09:19] <makuseru> it dosnt
[09:19] <zen> ok
[09:19] <makuseru> automatix is completly safe for most people
[09:19] <zen> let's see if xera can solve me
[09:19] <makuseru> ive neveer had it crash, or any other person
[09:19] <makuseru> zen: automatix is the quick way to do it
[09:19] <zen> how how u install it?
[09:20] <DeadFishMan> zen: The page that ubotu gave has detailed step-by-step instructions telling what to do including what repositories you need to enable in order to do so
[09:20] <makuseru> zen: www.getautomatix.com
[09:20] <surgy> i figured out part of my ipod porblem, the ipod 2.0 is different in how it mounts, kubuntu does not have ipod 2.0 drivers
[09:20] <zen> ok
[09:21] <cloakable> !automatix | makuseru, zen
[09:21] <ubotu> makuseru, zen: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:22] <zen> ok seems it's installing
[09:22] <zen> next i nead skype flash player 9 and java
[09:22] <zen> hope u can help me eheh
[09:22] <zen> u think it will be hard?
[09:22] <makuseru> no
[09:23] <makuseru> zen: are you new to linux?
[09:23] <zen> ok seems it installed what i have to do now close console ?
[09:23] <zen> yes 1 time
[09:23] <Xera> hmm
[09:23] <Xera> can i burn a windows xp iso to a dvdrw?
[09:23] <makuseru> zen: is english your first language?
[09:23] <Xera> sorry, i'm a total noob ;)
[09:23] <zen> no im from rome
[09:23] <makuseru> awesome
[09:24] <Xera> ye, cool
[09:24] <zen> what about u?
[09:24] <makuseru> i was just wondering why your english was a little off,
[09:24] <makuseru> im from US
[09:24] <zen> ahah but i like the usa uk support comunity so come to chat here
[09:24] <makuseru> did you get automatix
[09:24] <zen> automatix is ready what do i have to do now?
[09:24] <zen> seems it installed it in console
[09:25] <makuseru> its in your kmenu under system
[09:25] <surgy> so i guess thats just it
[09:25] <zen> ok
[09:25] <zen> super opening it then?
[09:25] <surgy> my ipod will never work with linux
[09:25] <surgy> i cant find anything.
[09:25] <dokteurping> hi everybody
[09:25] <makuseru> zen: you dont have to do it in a terminal, just click the kmenu and go to system
[09:25] <dokteurping> how can i download wineX ?
[09:26] <nothlit> !automatix
[09:26] <zen> i did all from root heeh very risky
[09:26] <makuseru> nah
[09:26] <makuseru> you have to be root to install
[09:26] <zen> the program installation i mean
[09:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:26] <DeadFishMan> lol
[09:26] <zen> ok im opening it as i said then what's next?
[09:26] <makuseru> hang on, lemme see where the Nvidia drivers are
[09:27] <zen> thanx
[09:27] <makuseru> no prob
[09:27] <zen> but as i got no drivers yet for 7900GS will general ones ruin it?
[09:27] <makuseru> it will be under the Miscallenous tab
[09:28] <makuseru> linux nvidia drivers are for just about all cards
[09:28] <zen> o great got skype in it and java to super thanx
[09:28] <makuseru> just check nvidia drivers then click start
[09:28] <zen> hope it has flash player 9 to
[09:28] <makuseru> its also a good idea to get the multamedia and w32 codecs too
[09:28] <zen> ok im installing it very simple
[09:29] <makuseru> yup
[09:29] <makuseru> !xnest
[09:29] <zen> i got a 17 lcd how much to i have to keep resolution afther 1280x1024 75 hz as it's now maku?
[09:29] <ubotu> xnest: Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1 (edgy), package size 1295 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[09:30] <zen> btw thanx for help u been very usefull
[09:30] <makuseru> no prob
[09:30] <makuseru> i dunno anything about nvidia drivers so i dunno about your resolution
[09:30] <makuseru> i know my radeon dosnt support my resolution so i had to write it into my xorg
[09:30] <zen> asked me to put kubuntu cd in doing it
[09:30] <gnomefreak> makuseru: please dont advise using automatix
[09:31] <makuseru> why
[09:31] <zen> why will it ruin kubuntu gnome?
[09:31] <zen> every time i find simple and easy click and run the linux purist have to speak against terrible
[09:32] <gnomefreak> makuseru: its not safe to use and has broken alot of systems
[09:32] <zen> ok they are installed ill install skype and java
[09:32] <zen> well make kubuntu more simple then
[09:32] <zen> couse it gives u the easy option automatix
[09:32] <zen> i don't want the terminal i want to click and go
[09:33] <DeadFishMan> zen: Linux is not hard. Is just different. Once you get acquainted with the system, you will realize that.
[09:33] <makuseru> gnomefreak: the kubuntu room is the ONLY place ive ever heard anyone say that, everyone i know personally that uses it, no problems at all
[09:33] <sampan> automatix broke my system once -- won't ever touch it again
[09:33] <zen> i know but click and go is the future see fedora 6
[09:34] <makuseru> i agree with DeadFishMan, i do most things in terminal, but i dont know where to find w32 and various other codecs
[09:34] <makuseru> so i use Automatix for that
[09:34] <gnomefreak> makuseru: a bunch of us have spent many hours in many days fixing issues. you want to use it thats fine but DONT advise others to use it
[09:34] <zen> btw dosen't seem ubuntu distros are so easy for bigginers much better fedora
[09:34] <makuseru> fine, i wont tell anyone in the room to use it, jyst everyone else
[09:34] <zen> everything is terminal here im getting pissed
[09:35] <DeadFishMan> zen: Ubuntu has a policy to ship only free software. You can add non-free additional add-ons later and it is not difficult.
[09:35] <zen> maku what java i have to put  1.5?
[09:35] <DeadFishMan> zen: Once you learn the inner workings of this operating system, you can transfer that knowledge to other OSes
[09:35] <sampan> the w32codes aren't hard to find -- the restricted format pages tell you the EXACT command to type (copy-paste works fine)
[09:35] <zen> i hope
[09:36] <zen> so can i use this automatix fish or not as it has all i nead in it java skype
[09:36] <makuseru> ive never seen that page?
[09:37] <nagyv> zen: actually you can use them, but it is better if you set up the needed repositories by hand, if you know how to do them
[09:37] <DeadFishMan> zen: I did and it works for me. But if things go wrong, I am in a better shape to fix it on my own.
[09:37] <zen> no 1 time on linux
[09:37] <makuseru> DeadFishMan: do you know how to use xterm?
[09:37] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: Yes
[09:38] <makuseru> how can i open it?
[09:38] <zen> ok let's hope well nvidia drivers are installed said to reboot fish what else do i nead to put so im sure
[09:38] <nagyv> zen: you can to anything also without using the console
[09:38] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: Usually, press Alt + F2, type xterm and hit Enter works for me
[09:38] <zen> yes later on im  not able now
[09:38] <nagyv> we give you console advices because in general it is faster, and the others (not me) are even more used to it :)
[09:38] <makuseru> oh ok
[09:38] <makuseru> i need to be in another tty?
[09:38] <makuseru> wairt
[09:39] <makuseru> wait*
[09:39] <zen> there is java 1.5 do i nead that to maku fish and any thing else?
[09:39] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: No, you don't
[09:39] <nagyv> if you want I will lead you through the steps without a console
[09:39] <makuseru> thats alt+ctrl+f2
[09:39] <makuseru> alt f2 is run
[09:39] <makuseru> i did that and its like a console
[09:39] <DeadFishMan> No, no... That first keystroke just change ttys. Alt + F2 will bring the run dialog and then you can run xterm from there.
[09:39] <tanlaan> has anyone here seen the movie "hackers"? If so do you remember the OS's they had on their laptops *not the scary 3D ones*. I was wondering if it would be possible to fully change the KDE GUI to resemble of them :D
[09:40] <tanlaan> *one
[09:40] <makuseru> ive seen it on kde-look
[09:40] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: However you can use either konsole or gnome terminal whenever you see someone telling you to use xterm
[09:40] <makuseru> huh
[09:41] <zen> brb
[09:42] <cloakable> Perhaps not faster, but more powerful.
[09:42] <nagyv> cloakable is not a newbie
[09:43] <nagyv> cloakable is not a ex-windows user
[09:43] <nagyv> cloakable is not emphatic :)
[09:44] <makuseru> deadfishman: i do xterm and i get a white console
[09:44] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: That is what a xterm is :)
[09:44] <makuseru> i cant run a program in it thought
[09:44] <cloakable> nagyv: I'm not a newbie anymore, I AM an ex-windows user (Haven't used anything from MS on my computers in years), and I'm not empathic :P
[09:45] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: Xterm is an terminal emulator for X. There are several of them, being konsole and gnome terminal the most popular these days
[09:45] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: But I have a love affir with Aterm and Eterm
[09:45] <makuseru> oh
[09:45] <surgy> ok i have officially been all over the forums, googled forever and still cant find my answer, the problem is: My ipod is an ipod 2.0 which mounts differently than the old ipods and kubuntu will not auto mount it by defualt, and i need it to auto mount so that i can access my ipod through amarak. can someone please help me?
[09:45] <makuseru> i need somthing where i can have graphics
[09:46] <makuseru> im trying to run Blender but not fullscreen
[09:46] <nagyv> surgy: I don't have an ipod, but try accessing it without mounting. As I now amarok should recognize the device, not the mount options/point.
[09:46] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: Xterm won't give you graphic output (unless the application that you are trying to use has a ncurses-like interface)
[09:46] <makuseru> i noticed
[09:47] <DeadFishMan> makuseru: Blender itself has shortcuts for that. IIRC, Alt + Up key changes it from fullscreen to window mode but I am not sure
[09:47] <surgy> nagyv: thats the problem it doesnt recognize it i cant access it at all, the only thing that kubuntu will show is in kinfocenter it says "usb device: ipod"
[09:48] <DeadFishMan> DeadFishMan: However, Blender really makes good use of screen state so if you are planning to use it long term, why don't you dedicate a virtual desktop just for it?
[09:48] <bobleny> Hey, what happend?
[09:48] <zen> ok the drivers are perfectly installed now automatix is installing java 1.5
[09:48] <nagyv> surgy: as I said I don't own any ipods, so can not help. If nobody else can help here, then try #amarok or #kde
[09:49] <zen> can u advise me how to keep my resolution i got a lcd 17
[09:49] <bobleny> I tried to play an mp3, and it opend in kaffine. It use to open in some other program that had a wolf icon or somthing. I looked in the Kmenu and it is gone!! what happend?
[09:49] <newlinuxguy> I keep getting erros that seem to point to my cd drive being flakey when trying to install ubuntu from an iso I d/l.  The checksum cleared and passed but the computer locks at various stages.
[09:50] <newlinuxguy> I can install ubuntu from a thumb drive which should hopefully solve the problem
[09:50] <DeadFishMan> bobleny: I believe that you are talking about Amarok
[09:50] <bobleny> amarok! thats what it was called
[09:50] <bobleny> Yeah....
[09:50] <newlinuxguy> so I figure I'll stay here incase I have any questions
[09:50] <cloakable> bobleny: Have you installed/uninatalled and software recently?
[09:50] <newlinuxguy> have a 2 gig thumb drive, just need to google to see what I need to do different
[09:50] <cloakable> *uninstalled
[09:50] <distro-test> fish if i keep my lcd 17 1280x1024 75 hz is that ok?
[09:51] <bobleny> Yeah, mysql, php, phpmyadmin, apache2
[09:51] <distro-test> im trying to understand what resolution put on linux
[09:51] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: I guess so but try to find some reference for it on the Ubuntu foruns
[09:51] <distro-test> ok
[09:51] <cloakable> bobleny: That's installed?
[09:51] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: That's the resolution that I use but mine is a 17 inch CRT
[09:51] <distro-test> sorry im asking much but it's 1 time btw thanx for help
[09:51] <bobleny> Yeah
[09:52] <distro-test> automaix is installing java 1.5 so im letting it go hope that is last version next i nead flash player 9
[09:52] <distro-test> let's hope it will be easy to install
[09:53] <newlinuxguy> has anyone stumbled across a good forum/tutuorial pointing toward how to get a bootable install on my 2gb pen drive so I can get it permanently installed on my server hard drive?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> distro-test: flash 9 is in the backports repos
[09:53] <nomad411> Hi all.  I bought a macbook last summer and am starting to miss running Kubuntu.  I think I'm going to go multibot. What's a good minimum size needed on my HD for a comfortable install?
[09:53] <bobleny> I don't belive I could have accedentlly uninstalled it.
[09:53] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: It is but you may need to run a few commands on the console
[09:53] <distro-test> ok if u quide me we can try
[09:54] <distro-test> i know how to become root sudo su o maby can make it
[09:54] <bobleny> If the computer crashed, could it hurt the program? Bc sometimes it doesn't turn off and I have to hold the power button.
[09:54] <distro-test> very nice if automatix keeps on like this ill love him even skype now ahah
[09:54] <cloakable> bobleny: Can you press Alt + Space, and when Katapult pops up, type amarok
[09:55] <distro-test> u ready to tell me what comands run then fish?
[09:55] <bobleny> I don't have the shortcut
[09:55] <distro-test> must wait automatix finishes to install skype do
[09:56] <cloakable> bobleny: try Alt + F2, then, if Katapult doesn't start
[09:56] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: You can follow these instructions to install Flash Player 9 on K/Ubuntu later: http://www.debianadmin.com/install-flash-player-9-update-in-ubuntu.html
[09:56] <bobleny> I went to kmenue
[09:56] <distro-test> i got another problem some programs don't show im menu that i installed whit adeps as anti rootkit tcpspy and so on
[09:57] <distro-test> how u put em on menu?
[09:57] <cloakable> bobleny: Don't worry about kmenu :)
[09:57] <distro-test> thanx fish
[09:57] <bobleny> I don't have the defult shortcuts...
[09:57] <distro-test> u know bob?
[09:57] <cloakable> bobleny: Did you change them?
[09:58] <bobleny> Yeah.
[09:58] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: That's because some of this apps are command line utilities that are not supposed to show up in menus anyways. Think of them as the the ftp and ipconfig command line utilities on Windows :)
[09:58] <distro-test> sorry i got mad before saying fedora is better hehe no way
[09:58] <bobleny> I changed them to windows shortcuts
[09:58] <distro-test> it's just i get scared of terminal some times but getting over it
[09:58] <cloakable> bobleny: can you run Katapult, then?
[09:58] <distro-test> o i see
[09:58] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: Once you get the hang of it, you will like it. :)
[09:59] <distro-test> but if i want to check out what they doing is there a way fish?
[09:59] <cloakable> bobleny: Unless you removed the shortcut to that program?
[09:59] <jago> how do i add a local folder to me repositories?
[09:59] <bobleny> BAH
[09:59] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: ?
[09:59] <cloakable> bobleny: Hmm?
[09:59] <distro-test> those programs i said
[09:59] <distro-test> command line utilities
[10:00] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: Are you asking if there is a way to keep track of those command line programs installed on your system?
[10:00] <distro-test> ifconfig = ipconfig that's fine another thing solved
[10:00] <distro-test> yes im asking much more if there's a way to view em eheh
[10:00] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: If that is the case, then you can always use Adept or Synaptic to see which programs you have on your system
[10:00] <distro-test> so i control what they doing
[10:00] <distro-test> o ok
[10:01] <cloakable> bobleny: Kmenu >  utilities > katapult
[10:01] <distro-test> tell me if i did right installed firestarter on kubuntu i just setted in it what i liked and now runs do i nead else?
[10:01] <distro-test> but every time i load pc askes me root password to start the firestarter don't know if i't's normal
[10:03] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[10:03] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: Firetstart as a firewall is a system application and it is not intended to be used by regular user accounts. You just set it up once and leave it running. It is OK for it to ask the root password whenever you try to launch it.
[10:03] <distro-test> yes that's when i start pc every time boring but ok
[10:03] <eisma> no one is helping me in the ubuntu channel, how do i play mp3 format music in rhythmbox music player?
[10:03] <Peruna> anyone here using Konversation ?
[10:04] <bobleny> No, apparently I can't use katapult then. A box comes up in the left corner and says to use alt+space to use katapult. I cant do that though...
[10:04] <DeadFishMan> Peruna: I am using it :)
[10:04] <DeadFishMan> !mp3
[10:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <distro-test> ill install flash player let's hope well brb
[10:04] <DeadFishMan> eisma: Look above
[10:04] <Peruna> how can I set that everytime I click irc:// links in Firefox it will run it here ?
[10:04] <bobleny> !katapult
[10:04] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[10:04] <cloakable> bobleny: Does amarok show up in the menu? It should be in multimedia.
[10:04] <distro-test> seems im going good for 1 time do
[10:05] <bobleny> No, amarok doesnot show up in menu
[10:05] <Peruna> DeadFishMan: any idea ?
[10:06] <dthacker> hello, where can I find libdvdcss2 so that I can play videos
[10:06] <dthacker> argh on DVD
[10:06] <distro-test> ahah it's hard as hell to install flash player 9 lucky im using copy paste if i can make it
[10:06] <bobleny> I looked in Adept Manager, typed in "amarok" and it says it is not installed
[10:06] <cloakable> bobleny: Can you open a terminal?
[10:07] <cloakable> bobleny: Ahhh. Tell adept to install it, then.
[10:07] <bobleny> Terminal is open as we speak
[10:07] <bobleny> Yeah, but how did it get uninstalled.
[10:07] <DeadFishMan> Peruna: Sorry... No idea
[10:08] <Peruna> okay, how about to edit default applications ?
[10:08] <cloakable> bobleny: A good question. Have you used anything like Automatix?
[10:08] <bobleny> IDK, what is Automatix?
[10:08] <DeadFishMan> !libdvdcss | dthacker
[10:08] <ubotu> dthacker: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:08] <bobleny> !automatix
[10:08] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:08] <cloakable> :)
[10:09] <dthacker> DeadFishMan: I've added Seveas's repositories and I'm still not able to pull it down. Can you help me debug?
[10:09] <bobleny> Not that I know of. The only thing I use is Adept Manager
[10:09] <DeadFishMan> dthacker: What happens when you try to apt-get it?
[10:10] <cloakable> bobleny: Good :) Just install Amarok then.
[10:10] <distro-test> ok it's to hard for 1 time to install flash player fish if u can help me or some one
[10:10] <dthacker> DeadFishMan:
[10:10] <dthacker> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:10] <DeadFishMan> dthacker: Try to run: apt-cache search libdvdcss
[10:11] <distro-test> any one can help me to install flash player 9 whit out console ?
[10:11] <DeadFishMan> dthacker: If you get too many results on that command, use paste bin...
[10:11] <DeadFishMan> !pastebin
[10:11] <Peruna> how to check if Firefox is default net-browser in Kubuntu ?
[10:12] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: I'm afraid that you will HAVE to use the console to set up Flash Player 9 on Linux :)
[10:12] <distro-test> damn
[10:12] <distro-test> well if u guide me i can make it but not alone
[10:13] <distro-test> can we start then couse manual is to hard for me yet
[10:13] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: Follow the instructions on that webpage that I gave you before to the letter and you should be all set
[10:13] <stdin> distro-test: I don't think yoy need the console to install it
[10:13] <stdin> distro-test: you just need to enable the backports reop
[10:13] <distro-test> i did but u can't pretend a 1 time ever linux user can do that whit out a guide
[10:13] <distro-test> ok how u do that st?
[10:14] <distro-test> btw i learn fast if u text follow me on console fish i will be able to
[10:14] <DeadFishMan> Peruna: Go to the System Settings, click on KDE Components then choose Default Applications. On Web Browser, you can specify Firefox as preferred web browser
[10:15] <stdin> distro-test: you need to add the backports repository to apept, then just update
[10:15] <DeadFishMan> distro-test: Follow the instructions on that webpage. It is fairly detailed.
[10:15] <dthacker> DeadFishMan: http://pastebin.com/863779
[10:17] <distro-test> thanx
[10:17] <link> I just tryed to install compiz on Adapt and now I can't get a resolution setting any high than 800x600
[10:17] <distro-test> btw this resolution 1280x1024 75hz is hurting my eyes must find a better one for my 17 lcd
[10:17] <Tm_T> Eh.
[10:18] <distro-test> what u advise TmT?
[10:19] <DeadFishMan> dthacker: I don't see the package in there at all however it may be loaded automatically when you apt-get install any DVD player: xine-ui, vlc or Ogle
[10:19] <Morbo> Don't LCDs need to run at a certain resolution?
[10:19] <Morbo> Well, to be most effective
[10:19] <distro-test> yes but this resolution hurts my eyes strange
[10:19] <Morbo> See your eye doctor?
[10:20] <Morbo> Is the refresh rate set correctly?
[10:20] <distro-test> don't know how i see that?
[10:20] <Morbo> Your monitor's manual/documentation
[10:20] <distro-test> yes goes fine on xp 1280x768 60 hz
[10:21] <distro-test> 1024 * i mean
[10:21] <Morbo> Maybe change the refresh rate, then
[10:21] <distro-test> i would like to put it same here but only makes me put 75 hz since i installed nvidia drivers
[10:21] <DeadFishMan> Well... Gotta go again... Real life is calling :)
[10:21] <DeadFishMan> See you later, fellas...
[10:22] <distro-test> later
[10:22] <distro-test> thanx for help
[10:22] <DeadFishMan> np
[10:27] <home_> what is the path for wine?
[10:27] <home_> i installed something and cant find it...
[10:27] <home_> Hello?
[10:29] <home_> Anyone?
[10:29] <fdoving> home_: /usr/bin/wine i guess.
[10:31] <home_> no
[10:31] <home_> Anyone else?
[10:31] <home_> i installed a program and need to find its path
[10:33] <ryy> Hi, I am linux n00b.  How do I unrar files? I typed 'unrar e <filename>' and I got '<filename> is not a rar archive No files to extract
[10:33] <Morbo> home_- at a terminal, type "which executable name"
[10:33] <soulrider> home_: you installed something with wine ?
[10:33] <home_> yes, i installed a windows program with wine
[10:33] <soulrider> ryy: did you install the package called "unrar" ?
[10:33] <home_> i just cant find where c is mounted in wine
[10:34] <soulrider> home_: its on ~/.wine/drive_c/....
[10:34] <newlinuxguy> when partitioning during install using the minimal cd, is the mount point for swap just that or is it typed in as /swap
[10:34] <ryy> I assumed that its installed. Because man unrar opens the man pages.
[10:35] <soulrider> ryy: open a console and do
[10:35] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install unrar
[10:35] <soulrider> that will make sure you have it instralled
[10:35] <soulrider> also, if you want to unrar a file, you can look it up with konqueror and open it with Ark
[10:35] <soulrider> Ark will extract rar files
[10:36] <home_> damn i guess itunes doesnt work with linux and wine
[10:36] <home_> is there a alternative for my ipod?
[10:36] <ryy> Installed it and ran the unrar command. Same thing happened.
[10:36] <soulrider> home_: im not sure, but i suggest you look on http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:36] <newlinuxguy> do you mount swap as "swap" when partinioning manually or as /swap?
[10:36] <soulrider> ryy dont use the unrar command, use Ark
[10:36] <gnomefreak> yes but without the bot im not sure off hand. i heard banshee is good
[10:37] <Dr_willis> there is no '/swap'
[10:37] <ryy> I will try
[10:37] <wolfwalker> !botsnack
[10:37] <newlinuxguy> okay
[10:37] <soulrider> the bot isnt here ?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> wolfwalker: the bots are offline atm
[10:37] <soulrider> oh my
[10:37] <wolfwalker> Is the bot sick here too?
[10:37] <Dr_willis> example fstab entry --> /dev/hdb1 none swap defaults 0 0
[10:37] <wolfwalker> Phooey
[10:37] <gnomefreak> server maintiance
[10:37] <wolfwalker> Oh well, it was worth a try
[10:37] <soulrider> whata re we gonna do without a bot? >.<
[10:38] <home_> anyone know how to get thier ipod to work with a linux box?
[10:38] <soulrider> home_: just plug it i think
[10:38] <newlinuxguy> thanks willis
[10:38] <Prisoner_> hi
[10:38] <soulrider> and as i said, look in http://ubuntuforums.org/
[10:38] <soulrider> hi Prisoner_
[10:38] <newlinuxguy> I appreciate it
[10:39] <Morbo> !ipod | home_
[10:39] <Prisoner_> installed a deskjet 712C printer on my Ubuntu box today and I think it's working
[10:39] <home_> plug it?
[10:39] <smaggard> halloo
[10:39] <smaggard> nice
[10:39] <home_> dont you need a program to put the music on it?
[10:39] <Morbo> !ipod
[10:40] <Morbo> Oh.  ubotu/two is absent
[10:40] <Morbo> home_- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[10:40] <smaggard> can someone do me a favor and ping an address for me
[10:40] <slow-motion> n8
[10:41] <soulrider> smaggard: what address ?
[10:41] <Morbo> smaggard- which?
[10:41] <smaggard> ns1.maggardcomputing.com and ns2
[10:41] <Morbo> Worked and unknown host
[10:41] <Prisoner_> Hard to believe Ubuntu will run on an old 400mhz AMD based system
[10:42] <smaggard> yeah thats similar to what i was getting
[10:42] <soulrider> Prisoner_: linux will run on anything
[10:42] <Morbo> Except for toasters
[10:42] <soulrider> well, almost anything
[10:42] <Morbo> And that's when you use NetBSD
[10:42] <home_> wow what a piece of crap
[10:42] <Morbo> soulrider- Of course "running" is different than "running well"
[10:42] <soulrider> home_: what is ?
[10:42] <home_> just added the repository to apt and it crashed it now i cant open it
[10:43] <soulrider> home_: never heard of that happening... =/
[10:43] <smaggard> namesecure wont let me change to those servers and im guessing its because it hasnt propogated fully
[10:43] <soulrider> are you using adept ?
[10:43] <home_> yes
[10:43] <home_> adept manager
[10:43] <soulrider> ok
[10:43] <soulrider> open a console
[10:43] <home_> could not open cache
[10:44] <home_> the apt database could not be opened!
[10:44] <soulrider> ah yes
[10:44] <stdin> If Adept crashes and won't start run this in Konsole "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkgg --configure -a
[10:44] <link> awww... I love the adapt database
[10:44] <soulrider> thats because it crashed
[10:44] <soulrider> i wish the bot was here..
[10:44] <home_> this is so annoying
[10:44] <stdin> without the '' at the end :P
[10:44] <stdin> If Adept crashes and won't start run this in Konsole "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkgg --configure -a"
[10:44] <stdin> that's better :)
[10:44] <soulrider> uhm, how od you do the euro sign in an english keyboard? i can do it on my spanish one but not on this one
[10:45] <link>
[10:45] <home_> command not found
[10:45] <stdin> soulrider:  is AltGr+4 on my keyboard
[10:45] <home_> sudo: dpkgg: command not found
[10:45] <stdin> damn my typeing
[10:46] <stdin> home_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:46] <soulrider> just one g
[10:46] <home_> still broken
[10:46] <home_> didnt do anyting
[10:46] <smaggard> thx for the ping guys
[10:47] <soulrider> home_: sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:47] <stdin> home_: you ran "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock" first ?
[10:47] <soulrider> that HAS to fix it
[10:47] <Prisoner_> may put it on my 1.5ghz box next
[10:47] <soulrider> Prisoner_: kubuntu will run like charm on a pc like that
[10:48] <soulrider> intelikey runs it in a pc with a 133mhz processor i think
[10:48] <Prisoner_> I'm running Ubuntu, what is the difference?
[10:48] <soulrider> not kubuntu though
[10:48] <home_> didnt fix anything
[10:48] <soulrider> the difference is the default settings basically
[10:48] <home_> still errors out
[10:48] <Prisoner_> ok
[10:48] <stdin> home_: what is the exact error ?
[10:49] <home_> The APT database could not be opened! this may be caused by incorrect APT config or some similar problem
[10:49] <Prisoner_> 384mb ram, it's an old system, but it works
[10:49] <home_> try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem
[10:49] <stdin> home_: what about if you try "sudo apt-get update" in konsole ?
[10:50] <home_> E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[10:50] <home_> im taking it out
[10:51] <home_> how do i overwrite the damn config
[10:51] <home_> god this is so stupid
[10:52] <stdin> home_: Alt-F2 "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:53] <home_> so is deb http://apebox.org/badgerexplosion ./ a bad repository?
[10:55] <BluesKaj> ok, i reinstalled the ATI drivers for DRI , but now i have a pckage that is in a sad state , wpasupplicant...what it has to do with the ATI drivers is unknown to me but it interferes with installing other pkges related to my TV tuner card and other video programs . I know wpa is something to with wireless encryption and firewire m, but I'm using neither .
[10:55] <stdin> home_: seems ok to me
[10:55] <home_> what is libpod0
[10:55] <ryy> Got it. unrar worked. The .rar file was corrupted. Thanks.
[10:56] <home_> it says its a library to use ipod, but how do i access it?
[10:56] <stdin> home_: you don't, it's used by other apps
[10:56] <Morbo> Amarok is one, home_
[10:56] <BluesKaj> I tried to reinstall the wpa program in order to remove it cleanly, but that doesn't work either...any ideas?
[10:57] <nothlit> aptitude purge wpa
[10:57] <Morbo> home_- Open Amarok.    Choose the "media devices" entry.
[10:57] <Morbo> home_- Try pressing "autodetect devices"
[10:59] <vinboy_> is there any aMule-CVS package?
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:59] <BluesKaj>  wpasupplicant
[10:59] <home_> cant detect my ipod
[10:59] <home_> god linux is gey
[10:59] <bxnp> what kind of errors BluesKaj could you pastebin it
[11:00] <Morbo> home_- Did you read the link I posted?
[11:00] <home_> yah morbo, it fucks up my adept everytime i add that repository
[11:00] <Morbo> home_- Please watch your language.
[11:00] <link> link:
[11:00] <link> home_
[11:01] <BluesKaj> bxnp, http://www.pastebin.ca/322943
[11:01] <home_> ?
[11:01] <stdin> home_: every time you add what repository ?
[11:02] <home_> the ipod program
[11:02] <stdin> home_: what are you adding ?
[11:02] <newlinuxguy> how do you guys feel about keeping a linux server on the net 24/7?  Is that as bad/suicidal as it is with Windows with a home server?
[11:02] <BluesKaj> bxnp, already tried to reinstall wpasupplicant...it won't
[11:02] <newlinuxguy> I'm trying to decide whether I want to install a DNS server for my Lan
[11:02] <Morbo> newlinuxguy- So long as you use proper security
[11:02] <stdin> newlinuxguy: nope, this PC is on 24/7, never had a problem :)
[11:02] <newlinuxguy> maybe I should just use hamachi
[11:03] <johey> newlinuxguy: GNU/Linux is one of the most popular systems used for servers around the world, even for professional use.
[11:03] <bxnp> and what prior command did you give to remove the pacakges
[11:03] <newlinuxguy> proper security = changing passes regularly or will I have to micromanage my ports/check logs etc
[11:03] <HymnToLife> newlinuxguy, given that about 80% of the servers in the whole Internet run Linux, I think that if it was suoicidal, whe'd have heard about it :p
[11:03] <bxnp> apt-get remove wpa_supplicant --purge ??
[11:04] <newlinuxguy> good point hymntolife, but
[11:04] <newlinuxguy> most professional/commercial servers are managed
[11:04] <newlinuxguy> 24/7
[11:04] <newlinuxguy> I don't have time to worry about whether someone is tryign to get to my private files installed on it
[11:04] <johey> newlinuxguy: All server systems need to be managed.
[11:04] <newlinuxguy> however I could use encryption on anything private
[11:04] <HymnToLife> yeah but malicious people don't care about your little home server
[11:04] <bxnp> apt-get remove wpa_supplicant --purge ?? did you use this command to remove it BluesKaj
[11:04] <HymnToLife> so put a strong password, that should be good enough
[11:05] <HymnToLife> that's what I have on mine, anyway
[11:05] <newlinuxguy> had a friend have his linux server hacked into at college and used as a means to hide the true user's identity
[11:05] <home_> how do i fix the adept manager again?
[11:05] <newlinuxguy> I guess that made me paranoid
[11:05] <stdin> home_: If Adept crashes and won't start run this in Konsole "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:05] <newlinuxguy> but strong passwords are a great way to start I imagine
[11:05] <home_> that doesnt work stdin
[11:05] <home_> its not a cras
[11:06] <home_> its a currupt source in my repositories
[11:06] <newlinuxguy> and I have all of my sensitive info stored on an ntfs drive
[11:06] <stdin> home_: don't matter
[11:06] <BluesKaj> bxnp,  yes , but i received exactly the same message as in pastebin
[11:06] <home_> cause the site has a repository that doesnt work
[11:06] <home_> yes it does, it dont fix it
[11:06] <home_> i have to manually go into kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and take it out
[11:06] <stdin> home_: what repo are you adding ?
[11:06] <home_> deb http://apebox.org/badgerexplosion ./
[11:06] <newlinuxguy> Is Samba a good choice for accessing my ntfs partitions on the server?
[11:06] <newlinuxguy> that's what Notre Dame used
[11:06] <johey> newlinuxguy: As long as you stay to commonly used server applications, there should be very hard to find a backdoor into your system.
[11:07] <HymnToLife> ntfs parititon on a server ?
[11:07] <stdin> home_: why ?
[11:07] <newlinuxguy> because it used to be a win2k server
[11:07] <newlinuxguy> and I've filled 120 gigs
[11:07] <newlinuxguy> with my files
[11:07] <Dr_willis> samba and 'accesing' ntfs partitions.. are sort of 2 different things
[11:07] <home_> cause thats what the kid said to install
[11:07] <newlinuxguy> so I have no way to switch it over easily
[11:07] <home_> to make it work?
[11:07] <HymnToLife> newlinuxguy, then you'll have to stay read-only on your ntfs
[11:07] <bxnp> and when you use the force flag BluesKaj
[11:07] <stdin> home_: no, all the packages are already in the ubuntu archives
[11:08] <bxnp> or the ignore errors flag
[11:08] <HymnToLife> installing ntfs-3g on a server doen't sound good
[11:08] <Dr_willis> using ntfs on a server - dosent sound good. :)
[11:08] <home_> well it says add that repository to download this banshee thing
[11:08] <BluesKaj> force flag ?
[11:08] <home_> thats NOT in the packages already in ubuntu
[11:08] <newlinuxguy> it would probably be worth my time to back everything up on dvd's and format it as ext3 then, right?
[11:08] <newlinuxguy> I shudder to think how long that will take
[11:08] <bxnp> --force-yes
[11:08] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[11:09] <johey> newlinuxguy: You will need to use a good filesystem, like ext3, yes.
[11:09] <HymnToLife> 120 GB, that's a shitload of DVDs
[11:09] <newlinuxguy> that's what I'm thinking
[11:09] <HymnToLife> can't you back it up to another machine in your network
[11:09] <bxnp> BluesKaj, : --force-yes
[11:09] <Dr_willis> 120gb /4 gb per dvd = 30 dvds :)
[11:09] <HymnToLife> ?
[11:09] <newlinuxguy> I might see what I can do with a usb hard drive
[11:09] <stdin> home_: all you need is Banshee, Amarok or gtkpod
[11:09] <newlinuxguy> yeah, the latter will have to happen
[11:09] <newlinuxguy> dvd's aren't a good choice obviously
[11:10] <newlinuxguy> I just don't have anything with that kind of storage now
[11:10] <newlinuxguy> So I will install DNS!
[11:10] <newlinuxguy> yayy!
[11:10] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[11:10] <newlinuxguy> not much
[11:10] <newlinuxguy> I was just concerned that doing this
[11:10] <newlinuxguy> would possible open another way for a hacker to get to my sensitive stuff
[11:11] <newlinuxguy> again, remember
[11:11] <newlinuxguy> I became paranoid
[11:11] <esc_ape> I think the hacker thing is so overhyped.
[11:11] <BluesKaj> bxnp, what context cmnd do i use  --force?
[11:11] <esc_ape> you're fine.
[11:11] <newlinuxguy> when my friend's server was hacked
[11:11] <Dr_willis> haxoring is the new trend. :)
[11:11] <bxnp> apt-get remove
[11:11] <johey> newlinuxguy: Btw... Keeping 120G of important data with no backups is generally not really a good idea.
[11:11] <IceMang> lol
[11:11] <newlinuxguy> yeah, I'm looking to purchase a hard drive for that reason
[11:12] <bxnp> so apt-get remove your_program --force-yes
[11:12] <newlinuxguy> it's a no-brainer, i know
[11:12] <Dr_willis> 120 is barley enough to store my.. err.. vacation videos...
[11:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:12] <newlinuxguy> I just procrastinate
[11:12] <IceMang> how important is it?  is this your personal collection?
[11:12] <stdin> newlinuxguy: only way for them to get it is with samba/nfs and/or ssh and when they are set to listed on any address, if you restrict them to the LAN, then they can't get in
[11:12] <esc_ape> I want to get one of those 500 gig drives
[11:12] <ns_> 120g of important data ? hard to come up with that much unless it is all multimedia
[11:12] <esc_ape> because I have alot of porn and stolen movies
[11:12] <IceMang> I knew a guy who had 1.5 TB of storage and used it all for warez
[11:13] <IceMang> I think I'd be happy with only 1 TB of warez
[11:13] <newlinuxguy> It's alot of multimedia, and none of it's porn fyi.  I'm free from those chains
[11:13] <Dr_willis> yea - once ya get over 1TB its silly
[11:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:13] <ns_> the internet is your backup for warez and pirated stuff .... why would you wast time and money for local backups ?
[11:13] <newlinuxguy> lots of fam pics, docs, personal music
[11:13] <IceMang> it wasn't me, ns_
[11:14] <IceMang> it was my "friend" ;)
[11:14] <ns_> heh
[11:14] <BluesKaj> nope , bxnp , it sticks like sh_t to a blanket ...same error response :(
[11:14] <newlinuxguy> okay, well thanks guys
[11:14] <newlinuxguy> I'm glad I'm finally making the move to linux
[11:14] <johey> Having a digital camera with about 10 MP with no image compression is enough for quickly filling large amount of storage space.
[11:14] <IceMang> Has anyone used stresslinux at all?
[11:15] <esc_ape> never heard of it
[11:15] <bxnp> oke maybe this will work, what happends if you reinstall BluesKaj
[11:15] <newlinuxguy> im getting a free cd of Vista from teh powertogether promotion
[11:15] <BluesKaj> this is stressful enuff for me :)
[11:15] <newlinuxguy> and have been reading up on it
[11:15] <bxnp> does it download the file or does it reinstall from your cache
[11:15] <newlinuxguy> and realized that it's time to learn linux
[11:15] <IceMang> it's a burn-in package.  stress for the machine, not for the user =)
[11:15] <draik> Hello everyone
[11:15] <newlinuxguy> hi draik
[11:15] <draik> How do I make k3b burn a Dual Layer DVD? I have a dual layer burner and blank media.
[11:15] <draik> hello newlinuxguy
[11:16] <E_mE> yoyo
[11:16] <BluesKaj> bxnp, not sure ...
[11:16] <E_mE> can anyone guide me to resolving a problem with the shutdown processing kubuntu
[11:16] <E_mE> the screen tends to go blank
[11:16] <surgy> is there a way to set an executable file to have root permissions without opening kterm and giving sudo everytime?
[11:17] <E_mE> and most the time i must forcefully shut down the computer
[11:17] <johey> surgy: chmod +s
[11:17] <johey> surgy: Consider the security issue though.
[11:17] <surgy> johey: so cd [directory]  snesmul chmod +s  ?
[11:18] <surgy> johey: it will just give my snes emulator permission
[11:18] <johey> surgy: chmod +s /path/to/the/executable/file
[11:18] <E_mE> surgy: what does the +s represent??
[11:19] <johey> surgy: Make sure no other user have writing permission to that file.
[11:20] <E_mE> well can anyone answer me?
[11:20] <esc_ape> E_mE : there's a post on kubuntuforums that addresses that issue
[11:20] <esc_ape> lemme find it
[11:20] <E_mE> thank you
[11:21] <E_mE> esc_ape: are you refering to the shutdown problem or the +s?
[11:21] <esc_ape> shutdown
[11:21] <E_mE> because since i've installed the ATI driver from ATI site it keeps happening
[11:21] <E_mE> thank you esc_ape :)
[11:22] <Tm_T> O.o
[11:22] <E_mE> Kubuntu is a great distro, i keep getting pleased with it every time
[11:22] <E_mE> finding new features and how simple it is to learn new things
[11:22] <smaggard> does anyone have an estimate for how much autocad 07 full costs?
[11:23] <smaggard> is it like $7,000?
[11:23] <Dr_willis> would not be suprised
[11:23] <smaggard> i know the LT version is like $900 or so
[11:23] <smaggard> but that doesnt do any 3d rendering
[11:23] <smaggard> i just cant find anywhere to get a quote on the full version without calling a reseller and they are all closed now
[11:23] <K-Ryan> !bug
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[11:24] <feka> Witam
[11:24] <johey> smaggard: I'm not sure your asking in the right channel. :p
[11:24] <feka> Polakw brak/
[11:24] <feka> ?
[11:25] <smaggard> lol
[11:25] <Dr_willis> smaggard,  i imagine a lot depends on the # of licenses and other thangs.
[11:25] <Dr_willis> its that 'kind' of a program :)
[11:25] <E_mE> any luck on my situation esc_ape?
[11:26] <johey> feka: This is an English speaking channel.
[11:26] <esc_ape> E_mE : still looking
[11:27] <E_mE> :) - Also, where can i look to disable the KDM at boot up so i go streight into console... i have looked on google but not much luck
[11:27] <smaggard> yeah
[11:27] <Dr_willis> E_mE,  disable the kdm service from starting
[11:27] <draik> Anyone know how to make k3b burn a dual layer dvd?
[11:28] <smaggard> i would say a single user license would cost about 7K for the full 07 version
[11:28] <E_mE> Dr_willis: in system settings?
[11:28] <smaggard> or they could just get a cracked version lol
[11:28] <Dr_willis> E_mE,  no idea where at there with a gui :) i know how to do it by hand.
[11:28] <esc_ape> E_mE : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=10455.0
[11:28] <esc_ape> easy fix
[11:28] <Dr_willis> "system Services (runlevel editor) " i see in my menus
[11:29] <E_mE> esc_ape: thank you very much :)
[11:30] <E_mE> Dr_willis: ill have a look thanx
[11:30] <archangel_> hi all
[11:30] <archangel_> shalom
[11:30] <archangel_> I have a flsh drive question
[11:30] <archangel_> flash drive I mean
[11:30] <esc_ape> E_mE : to disable KDM, do this: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf and then sudo sysv-rc-conf and uncheck KDM
[11:31] <esc_ape> sysv-rc-conf is good to have if you're into running a lean system
[11:31] <archangel_> I bought a 2 gig flash drive and what do I do to get it to register with kubuntu?
[11:31] <E_mE> :D woo thanx
[11:32] <E_mE> sorry i'm asking a fair few questions, ive been running it for a week or so and just want to iron our a few little problems ive had
[11:32] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  plug it in.. and it should.. pop up a window.
[11:32] <E_mE> ive managed to install and get some stuff work
[11:32] <E_mE> working
[11:32] <esc_ape> E_mE : no prob. ask away
[11:32] <archangel_> nothing happens Dr_willis
[11:32] <archangel_> Dr_willis: it lights up and thats about it
[11:33] <E_mE> esc_ape: with the glrfx drivers (ATI drivers) - can i use the vga=0x31B in the grub menu.list config?
[11:33] <esc_ape> no idea
[11:33] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  open up Konqueror and see whats in media:/
[11:33] <E_mE> because i can't seem to get into the console when i select Console mode... screen just goes blank
[11:33] <archangel_> ok
[11:33] <E_mE> not in X but in pure console
[11:34] <esc_ape> what are you trying to do?
[11:34] <archangel_> Dr_willis: just HD and CDRom comes up
[11:34] <E_mE> esc_ape: from the KDM, select Console Mode..
[11:34] <E_mE> esc_ape: but i'm hoping your link will resolve that problem too
[11:35] <esc_ape> I really dont know, I dont use KDM
[11:35] <archangel_> Dr_willis: I plugged in the drive in my hub and stright in the rear USB ports and I get the same result
[11:35] <esc_ape> but I know the solution from the link will stop your screen from turning blank on logout
[11:35] <E_mE> esc_ape: much apprisated :)
[11:36] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  Hmm... starts to get a little more in depth from here..  You accessed thois usb gizmo befor in other machines and OS's ?
[11:37] <archangel_> no I just opened the package
[11:37] <esc_ape> does anyone have a guide for setting up a separate /home partition?
[11:37] <archangel_> I can check it real quick on a laptop I have here
[11:39] <sleepy745> Are there any Kubuntu books out there that are sold? All I can find is Ubuntio.. :(
[11:39] <E_mE> esc_ape, couldnt you create /_home as you new partition, copy the information across
[11:40] <E_mE> and then boot into root and swap around the names of the folder and partition
[11:40] <esc_ape> yeah I'm guessing just change fstab as well
[11:40] <esc_ape> I want to make sure before messing it up
[11:40] <E_mE> aye
[11:41] <E_mE> i think that method would work
[11:42] <E_mE> dont see why not as /home is only used for non-root user reasons
[11:42] <E_mE> is it a new HDD you have?
[11:42] <esc_ape> im going to do a kde-core install with a separate /home
[11:42] <BluesKaj> bxnp, I found a fix after downloading another vers : sudo dpkg -i --force-depends-version wpasupplicant_0.5.5-4_i386.deb
[11:42] <esc_ape> no...I just want to do it
[11:42] <archangel_> Dr_willis: ok it works fine on the laptop
[11:42] <bxnp> cool BluesKaj :)
[11:43] <BluesKaj> bxnp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2022936
[11:44] <cap|com> can someone help me with this: i've an via onboard sound chip ac97 with edgy. normal sound works fine, but there is no midi device detected. is there a package missing or how is this simply set up? i am quite new with linux and wound be glad to handle this within the kde or with not too much terminal actions if possible :)
[11:44] <E_mE> sysv-rc-conf is a nice binary
[11:44] <E_mE> :)
[11:47] <esc_ape> E_mE: here's a good listing of services: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=sysv-rc-conf
[11:48] <archangel_> does anyone know how to setup flash drives?
[11:49] <archangel_> mine is not registering for some reason. I'm using dapper
[11:49] <E_mE> esc_ape:  thank you very much
[11:50] <archangel_> ipod works great, but not the flash drive
[11:50] <yuriy> archangel_: it should pop up automatically, ask what you want to do and make an icon on your desktop
[11:50] <sleepy745> what's a really good book to help teach linux commands and kubuntu?..
[11:50] <yuriy> archangel_: should also show up in media:/
[11:51] <yuriy> archangel_: but if it didn't, you count try mounting it yourself
[11:51] <yuriy> archangel_: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /some/folder
[11:51] <archangel_> yeah, I know what it's SUPPOSED to do, but I dont know what to do when it doesnt.  yuriy
[11:51] <jarn> I have a Calculator button on my keyboard so I tried to set KCalc up to launch with it, but Linux does not seem to recognize it as a key. When I press it, nothing appears in the Shortcut box. It does not realize a key is being pressed.
[11:51] <archangel_> stumped
[11:52] <yuriy> archangel_: run dmesg and see if there's anything new when you plug in the drive
[11:52] <archangel_> ok
[11:53] <archangel_> hey, I typed that last command you gave me and it said it could not find device (yes, its plugged in)
[11:54] <archangel_> wow, dmesg brought up pages of stuff
[11:55] <ianMAC> lol
[11:55] <E_mE> cya later goona try and reboot
[11:55] <archangel_> yuriy: 18586146.068000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known
[11:56] <archangel_> yuriy: [18586157.628000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd9 on isa0060/serio0).
[11:57] <bobjhk> How can I be signed in twice to konversation!? I was bobleny, then I got a message that says my nick is in use, even though I was already on konversastion in #kubuntu.... Thats weird...
[11:57] <surgy> ok so chmod +s didnt fix it
[11:58] <surgy> its an snes emulator
[11:58] <surgy> it says that it needs admin privs to change the desktop resolution
[11:58] <surgy> so i give it admin and it still sucks
[11:58] <sleepy745> Anyone know where to get the latest version of Kiba dock..? THere
[11:58] <sleepy745>             are alot on the net and it's confusing
[11:58] <ianMAC> I'm boreeddd
[11:59] <surgy> ianmac: you good with kubuntu?
[11:59] <ianMAC> ok i guess
[11:59] <yuriy> archangel_: that's just some keyboard thing.. those are the last messages in there?
[11:59] <surgy> well if your bored enough to walk me through getting my ipod mounting right i whould greatly apreciate it
[12:00] <newlinuxguy> it would be nice if I could see what's going on in the background in my install from the minimal install cd so I know if it's downloading the packages or if it's hung
[12:01] <ianMAC> i'm not sure, lol. I have my computer partitioned so that I use my ipod on windows :P
[12:01] <archangel_> yuriy: man, its those commands over and over again (only substituting the e059 to e001
[12:02] <archangel_> yuriy: you think it might be interfering with my wireless keyboard and mouse?
[12:02] <archangel_> yuriy: if so, thats really strange
[12:02] <ianMAC> yawn
[12:04] <newlinuxguy> shouldn't my hard drive be going crazy if software is being installed?  I'm running the minimal installl cd because the iso didn't work so it's in the phase of downlaoding software (I selected Kubuntu and LAMP)
[12:04] <newlinuxguy> is there a way to see what's going on in the back end or in the console?
[12:04] <newlinuxguy> it's hung @ 6% for a few minutes right now
[12:04] <Phlosten> newlinuxguy: what specs pc?
[12:05] <surgy> ianmac: you up to the chalenge?
[12:05] <newlinuxguy> 1 ghz, 512 meg ram
[12:05] <newlinuxguy> 80 gig hd with 12 as root, 2gig as swap, and rest /home
[12:05] <ianMAC> nah
[12:05] <Phlosten> newlinuxguy: there is a lot of decompression going on, so not just all io writes
[12:05] <newlinuxguy> the "core" installs fine
[12:05] <surgy> ok lol fair enough
[12:05] <newlinuxguy> okay
[12:05] <ianMAC> :P
[12:05] <newlinuxguy> so just let it do it's thing
[12:06] <newlinuxguy> I'm just used to winblows making my hd sing every time I have to wife my hard drive 3 times a year because it's such a poorly written system
[12:06] <newlinuxguy> heheh
[12:06] <Phlosten> newlinuxguy: yeah, give it a few more minutes ;)
[12:06] <newlinuxguy> i love knockin on them
[12:07] <newlinuxguy> okay thanks phlosten, I just got paranoid at the whole 10 mins @ 6% deal because my server kept hanging with the basic install .iso
[12:07] <ns_> but just think how many MSCE types would be lined up at soup kitchens, if it wasn't for them, newlinuxguy
[12:08] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[12:08] <newlinuxguy> well, I can't flex any certification muscles
[12:08] <ns_> think of their poor starved children .... won't somebody please think of the children ?  <eg>
[12:08] <newlinuxguy> lol
[12:09] <Phlosten> newlinuxguy: still stuck?
[12:10] <newlinuxguy> I am getting the most brief little spurts of i/o
[12:10] <newlinuxguy> but Im not confident that this is due to install going because it's been over 10 mins at 6%
[12:10] <Phlosten> newlinuxguy: did you test the cd?
[12:11] <newlinuxguy> it was the 8.4 mb mini
[12:11] <newlinuxguy> couldn't find a hash to compare
[12:11] <Phlosten> mini?
[12:11] <newlinuxguy> lemme fetch the url
[12:12] <SoulChild> HI ALL
[12:12] <VR_> I'm unable to browse audio cds in edgy. I just see a blank window... it works on dapper fine, though. Does anyone know what the deal is here?
[12:12] <SoulChild> anyone having little problems with beryl like me? menu shadow displayed wrong, and no beryl symbol in taskbar
[12:13] <newlinuxguy> Phlo -
[12:13] <newlinuxguy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:13] <newlinuxguy> i went this way
[12:13] <newlinuxguy> because the 700 meg kept giving me random erros
[12:13] <newlinuxguy> even though
[12:13] <newlinuxguy> the checksum was good
[12:13] <newlinuxguy> doh!
[12:14] <newlinuxguy> I wanted to write a little ditty about my experience installling ubuntu
[12:14] <newlinuxguy> but maybe taht will have to get pissed on and thrown in the fire :)'
[12:14] <esc_ape> how do you backup kmail?
[12:14] <newlinuxguy> cuz im not doing so well
[12:14] <newlinuxguy> it hated my desktop
[12:15] <newlinuxguy> and I've spent a few hours getting hung on install