[07:28] <qman__> does anyone know how to configure the screen brightness controls for a laptop?
[07:28] <AHMAGHNEJAD> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS CAMEL DICK
[07:28] <Bodsda> !ops | AHMAGHNEJAD
[07:28] <AHMAGHNEJAD> YELLO
[07:28] <FloodBot2> AHMAGHNEJAD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <ackbahr> patifa: And stupid things happen like zombies, no subtitles in videos, .....
[07:29] <n2diy> !ops | AHMAG
[07:29] <AbstortedMinds> Bodsda that fixed it thanks a million man!
[07:29] <Bodsda> cheers stdin
[07:29] <snowveil> I have appeared to have lost a drive partition when installing ubuntu this morning, anyone have any ideas as to why?
[07:29] <Bodsda> AbstortedMinds: what did?
[07:29] <snowveil> I've got 2 drives, 4 partitions
[07:29] <ackbahr> Bodsda: Yes, that was a good decision....
[07:30] <snowveil> one of those 4 partitions was used for ubuntu (well, split into 2 for the swap as well)
[07:30] <OzFalcon> snowveil, you let it auto part.
[07:30] <snowveil> I didn't
[07:30] <navetz> this is my dispaly controler: Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[07:30] <snowveil> I manually did it
[07:30] <Bodsda> ackbahr: yeah ;~)
[07:30] <navetz> does that mean I am using i810 intel?
[07:30] <navetz> I am not to familiar with this
[07:30] <tech0007> snowveil: did u format it
[07:30] <arvind_khadri> navetz, yeah
[07:30] <snowveil> no
[07:30] <OzFalcon> snowveil, Hmmm. Is the part GONE or just unmounted?
[07:30] <Rabiddog> Any experts with dmraid on?
[07:30] <snowveil> I set it to ignore that partition
[07:30] <navetz> arvind_khadri: thanks
[07:30] <snowveil> I guess just unmounted?
[07:30] <lapar> hoi .. I'm trying to install 7.10 without install ...
[07:30] <patifa> Classic 945G integrated graphics on navetz's computer.  I had a used dell with that once.
[07:30] <snowveil> I'm not sure
[07:30] <barana> gday all
[07:30] <snowveil> I can't figure out how to find it
[07:30] <lapar> what file shall I fix>
[07:30] <FloodBot2> snowveil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <lapar> I remember there is one particular python file
[07:31] <arvind_khadri> navetz, welcome
[07:31] <ackbahr> Bodsda: So you see it's not that bad, but it's clearly crippled
[07:31] <snowveil> tech0007: how would I go about seeing if it's simply just not mounted?
[07:31] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: how's the usplash?
[07:32] <Bodsda> ackbahr: yeah, reinstall would be best
[07:32] <barana> is there anyone here who wants to help me get my cdrom functioning?
[07:32] <tech0007> snowveil: use gparted
[07:32] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, pissed off and left it :)
[07:32] <ackbahr> Bodsda: I backed up /home, but before I do a complete reinstall, is there something else I should backup?
[07:32] <tech0007> snowveil: what filesystem is it?
[07:32] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, had issues with xserver after words ...now proper
[07:32] <snowveil> it is either ntfs or fat32, I can't recall
[07:32] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: seems the kernel was trying to allocate resources twice
[07:32] <Bodsda> ackbahr: nope -- ul  lose installed apps but thats it,.,. just reinstall now m8
[07:32] <snowveil> I'm thinking it's fat32 but I'm not 100% positive
[07:32] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: from what I read
[07:32] <n2diy> ! backup | ackbahr
[07:33] <tijn> !firefox
[07:33] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, yeah...i feel i need to tweak it myself the kernel ...but have no idea
[07:33] <zvacet> ackbahr : var/cache/apt/archives with aptoncd ( it is in synaptic)
[07:33] <ackbahr> n2diy: Thanks
[07:33] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, afterwards its assigning the region but display doesnt show up
[07:33] <DistroJockey> ackbahr, you could take a copy of  /var/cache/apt/archives  (to save some re-downloading possibly)
[07:33] <tech0007> snowveil: you should see it when you do dmesg | grep sda
[07:33] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: there's a good howto at the forums
[07:33] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, ACPI issues right
[07:34] <tech0007> snowveil: or dmesg | grep sdb
[07:34] <n2diy> arvind_khadri: you are comfortable playing with kernel programming?
[07:34] <ackbahr> DistroJockey: What's in this folder?
[07:34] <DistroJockey> zvacet, beat me to it :)
[07:34] <DSMatthews> NetworkManager is poop! It will not set up WPA with Hidden SSID, but you can do it using these instructions, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539, anyone know why NM does not do a complete setup of interfaces?
[07:34] <n2diy> ackbahr: GL
[07:34] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: I would have thought mem address
[07:34] <DistroJockey> ackbahr, downloaded apt-get updates/installs
[07:34] <darkcrab> yes it will ds
[07:34] <arvind_khadri> n2diy, my cousin is kernel hacker so if i cant do ,he can guide me
[07:34] <Rabiddog> DSMatthews: cause teh devs got lazy? :)
[07:34] <ariqs> can someone please explain to me how to get WINE to run a program right? I'm trying to run warcraft 3 with it, and when I load it, it runs like utter crap
[07:34] <zvacet> ackbahr : all packages you downloaded with synaptic or apt-get
[07:34] <DSMatthews> ACK
[07:34] <Bodsda> ariqs: #winehq
[07:34] <darkcrab> it very much will DS
[07:35] <darkcrab> your doing something wrong
[07:35] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, aah ok ... i feel Ubuntu is trying to bring in a lot of changes which are not good...its going hayward
[07:35] <n2diy> arvind_khadri: ask in #ubuntu-kernel, they are quite now.
[07:35] <Rabiddog> darkcrab: always the users fault :P
[07:35] <darkcrab> heh
[07:35] <arvind_khadri> n2diy, :) thanks for that
[07:35] <ackbahr> DistroJockey: Ah, ok.... I was rather thinking of some setting things like printer settings, little tweakings I did now and then.... Where are they likely to be?
[07:35] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: it's a lts - think long term
[07:35] <darkcrab> if I didnt know it for a fact I wouldnt have said it
[07:35] <barana> is three anyone here who could help me sort out my optical drive plz?
[07:36] <Rabiddog> darkcrab: hehe
[07:36] <omnz0r> ikonia: I don't know if you remember, but I had some trouble getting fully maximized windows on an external monitor, that mirrors my laptop because the resolution wasn't set properly. I haven't found an elegant way to do it, but if I move the window's titlebar down to the bottom of the screen (so it's below the 800 height of my laptop) and then maximize it, it works as expected. Just to let you nkow.
[07:36] <DSMatthews> It should be a "no brainer", that is the point of a GUI, in the end I wrote the required parameters to /etc/network/interfaces
[07:36] <DistroJockey> ackbahr, they should all be in your home dir
[07:36] <DistroJockey> ackbahr, all the .whatever folders
[07:36] <darkcrab> it is a no brainer ds my friend
[07:36] <OzFalcon> snowveil, Have you run "ls /dev/sd*"  ???
[07:36] <ere4si> barana: is it listed in /etc.fstab?
[07:36] <darkcrab> just choose other network
[07:36] <darkcrab> enter your ssid
[07:36] <ere4si> */etc/fstab
[07:36] <tijn> any know problems with firefox 3?
[07:36] <darkcrab> enter wpa
[07:36] <DistroJockey> ackbahr, they be hidden by default
[07:36] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, this is long term but what about the ones that follow .... i feel really weird about such a small release cycle....should be atleast a year gap ....
[07:36] <ackbahr> DistroJockey: Ah yep, that's right....
[07:36] <DSMatthews> Well I must have to much brain then....
[07:36] <darkcrab> and enter your key
[07:36] <ariqs> bodsda: wine channel people are not helpful. They're linux elitists
[07:36] <snowveil> which dir should I run that from, OzFalcon?
[07:37] <patifa> tijn: flash randomly crashes FF3
[07:37] <ackbahr> DistroJockey: Yep, I know.... How can I display them to copy them?
[07:37]  * Rabiddog slaps his damn newly upgraded ubuntu kernel...........I guess I need to remember how I recompiled the kernel to support dmraid and slowed the startup by about 3 secs for the raid array to spin up, dang ubuntu won't recognize my /home drive which is a raid array
[07:37] <darkcrab> flash works better in epiphany
[07:37] <barana> ere: ill look
[07:37] <sz0> I have a Python which I want to run it on a server.  I can run succesfully it on 8.04 desktop but not on server.  Here is the command: python -c "import socket, struct; struct.unpack('L', socket.inet_aton(\"<IP_ADDRESS>\"))[0]" , It gives the error message "struct.error: unpack requires a string argument of length 8".  Any idea about this?
[07:37] <OzFalcon> snowveil, any
[07:37] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: 3 years support for the lts - I hang off until 8.04.1 for a regular use desktop install
[07:37] <Bodsda> ariqs: yes,.,.but i bet they are helpfull
[07:37] <DistroJockey> ackbahr, in Nautilus, goto View - Show Hidden Files (or press Ctrl+H)
[07:37] <DSMatthews> I tried everything logical on two laptops with different chip sets, on both NM fails, but setting up interfaces works!
[07:38] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, whats that ??
[07:38] <snowveil> just ran it OzFalcon
[07:38] <darkcrab> dont know what to tell you DS, I have never had a problem.
[07:38] <ackbahr> DistroJockey: Yep, found that.... :) Sorry for asking before checking!
[07:38] <n2diy> ere4si: me too.
[07:38] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, dont you feel a release cycle of 6 months is too short??
[07:38] <DistroJockey> ackbahr, np, needed a warmup ;)
[07:38] <DSMatthews> or a solution? ;_0
[07:38] <tech0007> snowveil: sudo /sbin/parted /dev/sdX print
[07:38] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: I have 8.04 on a "testing" machine - the comp I do work on has 7.10
[07:38] <stdin> sz0: try #python
[07:39] <darkcrab> the solution is that Network Manager has always worked for me.
[07:39] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: yes
[07:39] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: 6 months seems less than optimal
[07:39] <n2diy> arvind_khadri: no, LTS is on a three year release cycle, IIRC?
[07:39] <DSMatthews> used *nix since 1996, I'm not that green....
[07:39] <OzFalcon> snowveil, then try something like this "sudo fdisk /dev/sda -l"
[07:39] <sz0> stdin: Ok.
[07:39] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, we wont loose Users in six months or so....by making the cycle so short we make every thing so unstable
[07:39] <barana> ere4si: is seems to be there under scd0 - yes
[07:40] <OzFalcon> snowveil, to list the partitions on that disk.
[07:40] <arvind_khadri> n2diy, :) am talking about the release cycle not the support :)
[07:40] <kevineamigh> I really think that a new operating system that is developed in today's world should not have so many issues when it comes to sound, number lock, or some of the other issues people have that they shouldn't have to worry about in the first place
[07:40] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: following distrowatch.com - users want the latest/newest
[07:40] <darkcrab> ubuntu has tons of issues, im just boreed
[07:40] <darkcrab> so I installed it
[07:40] <TooFly> Hello! I'm very new and have a question regarding installing Ubuntu. I have both an on-board graphics card, as well as a PCI-express card, and I am having trouble beginning the installation from CD.
[07:40] <n2diy> arvind_khadri: Well, if you have three years of support, why worry about the current releases?
[07:41] <ere4si> barana: and what isn't it doing pls - sorry I missed the original post
[07:41] <TooFly> Anyone know what I'm supposed to do?
[07:41] <patifa> TooFly: What's the error?
[07:41] <DSMatthews> Ubuntu is great, and getting better all the time, but some core functions are still klunky.
[07:41] <snowveil> OzFalcon, under gparted I'm only seeing one drive, not both of them
[07:41] <TooFly> I begin the install, and the computer reboots and goes black.
[07:41] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, ok we can make the cycle a year and half .... and i really dont think Canonical should care about people who are leaving
[07:41] <TooFly> It looks like my monitor is cycling between analog and digital trying to get a signal.
[07:41] <snowveil> however, ubuntu is able to recognize both drives and 3 of the 4 partitions
[07:41] <stdin> !ot
[07:41] <GG2> what's better Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[07:41] <bullgard4> [Hardy] In what directory does tracker store its undex files?
[07:41] <bullgard4> [Hardy] In what directory does tracker store its index files?
[07:41] <LSD|Ninja> GG2: which do you prefer, GNOME or KDE?
[07:41] <Rabiddog> Ubuntu video recognition sucks
[07:41] <mmmiiikkkeee> I am having problems with installing the package 'hal' since I upgraded to hardy.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/9406/
[07:42] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: seen the popularity contest app in ubuntu...
[07:42] <GG2> I haven't used KDE
[07:42] <DistroJockey> snowveil, Gparted has a dropdown menu to change the drive you are viewing
[07:42] <DSMatthews> Kubuntu is for KDE people, more windows like in some ways.
[07:42] <GG2> no clue
[07:42]  * Rabiddog knows os a great script that will get nvidia video working with glx right off the bat
[07:42] <arvind_khadri> n2diy, :) no comments
[07:42] <snowveil> haha, there it is
[07:42] <patifa> TooFly: Does the CD even start with the selection menu?
[07:42] <DistroJockey> :)
[07:42] <GG2> Kubunto is easier to use?
[07:42] <OzFalcon> snowveil, Is gparted some extra install?
[07:42] <norty> Question: I just upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10, but when I try to play videos like youtube or myspace the sound doesn't work... how do I fix this?
[07:42] <snowveil> looks like the drive in question is still there
[07:42] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, yeah i did ,why do we need all that....
[07:42] <n2diy> arvind_khadri: trolling?
[07:42] <TooFly> Yes, it does. I select install from the menu.
[07:42] <snowveil> /dev/sdb2
[07:43] <patifa> TooFly: Then what happens?
[07:43] <TooFly> I tried "install in safe graphics mode" as well, and it does the same thing.
[07:43] <Carbonflux> does anyone know where the routing table is in Ubuntu ?
[07:43] <william__> hey um ubuntu studio isnt very good at installing other things eyecandy or games or alot of apps i noticed......sigh
[07:43] <barana> sorry mate - its not mounting on the desktop- and i go into the fie browser and when i click it a requester bow tell me it cant mount. i also look int the dev/cdrom0 folder and its empty
[07:43] <darkcrab> depends whether you like gnome or kde GG2
[07:43] <Carbonflux> I can't find it in /etc/routes
[07:43] <ere4si> arvind_khadri: it's a mindset perhaps
[07:43] <TooFly> It loads the kernel, and the screen goes black
[07:43] <Rabiddog> norty: make sure you don't have adblock installed
[07:43] <Rabiddog> in firefox
[07:43] <ere4si> barana: ?
[07:43] <arvind_khadri> n2diy, no not at all do you want me to move to OT
[07:43] <TooFly> And stays black :(
[07:43] <DSMatthews> Some people like Kubuntu because is seems more familiar, but it is just a desktop...
[07:43] <arvind_khadri> ere4si, perhaps
[07:43] <darkcrab> is it better to install firefox addons from synaptic or from the browser
[07:43] <DistroJockey> TooFly, I assume it is the Desktop CD you are trying?
[07:43] <n2diy> arvind_khadri: sure, give me a sec.
[07:43] <TooFly> yes
[07:43] <Rabiddog> TooFly: do u figure it finished loading?
[07:43] <zvacet> GG2 : i think that depends on your habit but you can try it if you want to and then decide which one you like
[07:44] <DistroJockey> TooFly, if you can, try the Alternate CD
[07:44] <arvind_khadri> n2diy, fine
[07:44] <TooFly> yeah it reaches 100%
[07:44] <bullgard4> Carbonflux: It is in the kernel. Run 'route' in a GNOME terminal.
[07:44] <TooFly> where can I get it, and what's the difference?
[07:44] <norty> Rabiddog, i looked those all plugins, extensions and add-ons in firefox but i dont see adblock... ?
[07:44] <patifa> TooFly: Installer is text-only in alternate CD
[07:44] <darkcrab> i refuse to use to kde personally, i will only use gnome
[07:44] <Rabiddog> ok then its something else
[07:44] <DSMatthews> Ubuntu / Gnome suits some people more, it's clean and streamlined.
[07:44] <Rabiddog> norty
[07:44] <keegan> hi , when i connect to an unsecured wireless network , i get the following message. authenticated, Associated with AP (machine address),  invalid aid value 0 , Rx Assoc rep, AP denied Association. I cant connect even with vista. Its a netgear AP. Any ideas
[07:44] <hellues> !paste
[07:44] <Rabiddog> TooFly: is this a live cd.....or a hdd install?
[07:44] <Carbonflux> bullgard1, what if I want alter the routes so they persist when I reboot ?
[07:44] <norty> Rabiddog, It seems to only ont work when the player is built-in to the site
[07:45] <TooFly> I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure. I downloaded the image, burned it to a CD, and booted off the CD.
[07:45] <icesword> sigh.... the same story, same dialogue
[07:45] <darkcrab> probably that network keegan
[07:45] <barana> sorry mate - its not mounting on the desktop- and i go into the file browser and when i click it, a requester tells me it cant mount. i also look in the dev/cdrom0 folder and its empty.
[07:45] <DSMatthews> keegan: are you using DHCP?
[07:45] <TooFly> I guess live CD?
[07:45] <snowveil> how can I tell what mounted name corresponds with the /dev/sdX name?
[07:45] <Rabiddog> norty, I had issues until I installed non-free flashplayer and removed adblock (this is not the same as adblock plus)
[07:45] <patifa> keegan: It sounds like a MAC address filter.  Furthermore it doesn't sound like an ubuntu problem, but more likely a problem with a misconfigured router blocking wireless access.
[07:45] <barana> ere4si  ^
[07:45] <Shadow420> well I have noticed that when I am trying to run a java game on hardy it's just a bad of using it like gutsy I may have to reinstall it because I upgraded it
[07:45] <tech0007> snowveil: mount
[07:45] <stdin> snowveil: type "mount" in a terminal
[07:45] <Rabiddog> TooFly: hmm
[07:45] <GG2> Is there anything as good as mIRC on linux?  this XChat doesn't even come close
[07:45] <ere4si> barana: is that with one cd or several?
[07:46] <keegan> DSMatthews:  yes i am using DHCP.
[07:46] <tech0007> GG2: try pidgin
[07:46] <darkcrab> Ah, that makes since Rabi, I think I had that problem before.
[07:46] <keegan> patifa:  how do i find out if its a MAC address filter
[07:46] <zcat[1]_> http://xkcd.com/416/
[07:46] <Rabiddog> GG2: what do u mean is it lacking?
[07:46] <DSMatthews> Keegan: Do you have admin access on the WiFi router?
[07:46] <TooFly> I suspect it is a problem with the fact that I have both an on-board video card and another video card in my PCI-express, which is what my monitor is connected to.
[07:46] <bullgard4> Carbonflux: Please use the 'route' command for that purpose. See 'man route'.
[07:46] <hellues> hey
[07:46] <ruang1> hei juga
[07:46] <Rabiddog> GG2: or try chatzilla with the faces theme
[07:46] <Carbonflux> thank you bullgard4 :)
[07:46] <Shadow420> GG2 there is other IRC programs for linux just google irc programs for linux
[07:46] <keegan> DSMatthews:  no i do not have admin access to the WIFi router.
[07:46] <Carbonflux> I understand
[07:47] <darkcrab> i hate chatzilla
[07:47] <icesword> !irc
[07:47] <DistroJockey> TooFly, to get it, go to the following link and tick the box below the green download link:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[07:47] <Rabiddog> TooFly: disable onboard video
[07:47] <darkcrab> x-chat 4tw
[07:47] <norty> Rabiddog, what is non-free flash player?
[07:47] <barana> ere4si: no just one cd its a combo drive - im trying to read the installed cd
[07:47] <patifa> keegan: All I know is that, by the error, the netgear AP is going through the motions to connect you, then deciding it wants to deny you access.  Ubuntu's wireless driver responds to the deny message and ends the connection attempt.
[07:47] <TooFly> DistroJockey: Thank you
[07:47] <darkcrab> adobe flash norty
[07:47] <Rabiddog> norty the one that comes direct from adobe flash
[07:47] <TooFly> Rabiddog: is this done in BIOS?
[07:47] <ere4si> barana: soory - I meant disk not drive
[07:47] <DSMatthews> keegan: did you look at, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[07:47] <DistroJockey> TooFly, there may be a workaround you can use if you don't wan't or can't download another 700 odd MB though)
[07:47] <Rabiddog> yes depends on mobo
[07:47] <darkcrab> adobe only problems rpms now which I think is fedora core.
[07:47] <ere4si> *sorry
[07:47] <snowveil> well, it appears that sdb2 is the other partition on the drive that ubuntu is installed on
[07:47] <TooFly> What would the workaround be?
[07:47] <barana> *installer
[07:48] <Rabiddog> darkcrab: huh
[07:48] <TooFly> Is this a common problem?
[07:48] <zcat[1]_> 'non-free' just means it's not open-source, it diesn't mean anyone has to pay money to use it..
[07:48] <tech0007> !adobe
[07:48] <OzFalcon> WTF, Why does gparted have option to unmount, But none to mount???
[07:48] <icesword> yep
[07:48] <patifa> TooFly: Before you attempt that.  Could you try hooking your monitor up to the onboard video after the kernel starts to load?
[07:48] <keegan> patifa:  seems likely. how can i change my MAC address on ubuntu ?
[07:48] <DistroJockey> TooFly, you're welcome. I always get the Alternate as it supports more install scenarios)
[07:48] <snowveil> and my second, 200gb drive, which should be split into two partitions, is only showing up as one large partition in GParted
[07:48] <Shadow420> well adobe flash is becoming open-sourced
[07:48] <ere4si> !wtf | OzFalcon
[07:48] <darkcrab> adobe's website, Rabidog, only provides an RPM package now, and you cannot use that on ubuntu
[07:48] <TooFly> patifa: good idea, let me try
[07:48] <darkcrab> so basically we are stuck with flash-nonfree
[07:48] <Rabiddog> darkcrab: idiots....
[07:48] <sriramoman> can someone tell me what is wrong with the following script?
[07:48] <sriramoman> if [ ! -f "calendar" ]; then echo "making"; mkdir "calendar"; else echo "Hi"; fi ;
[07:48] <snowveil> could ubuntu have merged the two partitions into one, even though they're not directly related with the installation?
[07:48] <TooFly> i'm gonna feel dumb if this works :)
[07:48] <Rabiddog> lol
[07:49] <helai> ubuntu is not so good as I think
[07:49] <DSMatthews> Keegan: no point changing the MAC if you can't see the list of allowed MAC numbers set onb the WiFi router.
[07:49] <Rabiddog> helai: don't think :P
[07:49] <Shadow420> helai it all depends on your taste
[07:49] <zvacet> TooFly : did you disabled on p your graphic in BIOS
[07:49] <keegan> DSMatthews:  i think i know the list of allowed MAC address.
[07:49] <icesword> helai, hmm, define "not so good"
[07:49] <snowveil> strange though, because it's a 200gb drive, and the partition that makes up that drive is only listed as 107GB
[07:49] <stdin> sriramoman: you're checking for a file "-f" you want to check for a dir "-d"
[07:49] <Carbonflux> bullgard1, my problem is a I have a device on my internal net I want to get at, its at <IP_ADDRESS> my router and gateway etc are one <IP_ADDRESS> and all the computer are 0.x addy, if I change the subnet mask to <IP_ADDRESS> I can get it the device from my windows machine but not my Ubuntu machine, its weird, it should be working
[07:49] <mmmiiikkkeee>  I am having problems with installing the package 'hal' since I upgraded to hardy.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/9406/
[07:49] <snowveil> so there is definitely still either extra unformatted space on there, or the other partition exists
[07:49] <darkcrab> yea, I am finding epiphany to be a much more compatible browser in gnome.
[07:49] <sriramoman> stdin, ok. i shall try.
[07:49] <emergion> Hello, anyone had a problem with 8.04 freezing on boot?
[07:49] <darkcrab> though I do like the firefox extra features.
[07:49] <emergion> sorry shutdown :P
[07:50] <knix> Why is the hardy installer telling me / must be at least 2gb, that's insanity
[07:50] <keegan> DSMatthews:  since its an unsecured network a promiscous scan will show me MAC addresses of all machines connecting.
[07:50] <patifa> TooFly: I'm suspecting that you still have onboard video enabled.  After Ubuntu starts up, it loads up the simplist drivers at first, which is probably starting up your onboard video.  Without manually changing back to PCI-e with a different graphics driver, it'll stay using that onboard.  However if you disable onboard, the basic driver (vesa) will start up your PCI-e graphics card in VESA mode.
[07:50] <sriramoman> stdin, what is the common tag for both file and dir?
[07:50] <helai> of course I also don't think winxp is good
[07:50] <darkcrab> 2 gb for what knix?
[07:50] <Rabiddog> darkcrab: me too
[07:50] <knix> darkcrab: my / partition
[07:50] <tech0007> snowveil: what does fdisk -l /dev/sdb2 say?
[07:50] <stdin> sriramoman: "-e" (exists)
[07:50] <Carbonflux> heh, this channel is too busy anymore
[07:50] <knix> It's giving me an error telling me to make it larger
[07:50] <zcat[1]_> adobe's site shows tar.gz, rpm and yum packages.. who said they only do rpm?!
[07:50] <tech0007> snowveil: sorry fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[07:50] <Rabiddog> patifa: thats why I suggested disabling it in bios
[07:50] <darkcrab> na, thats not possible knix
[07:50] <sriramoman> ok
[07:50] <helai> this is why I migrate to ubuntu
[07:50] <knix> darkcrab: what's not?
[07:50] <DSMatthews> Keegan: some chip sets will allow MAC change, if the Linux driver for it has that option, it isn't a priority
[07:50] <TooFly> OK, I tried connecting my monitor to onboard video after kernel loaded - no dice. I'll fuddle through BIOS and try to disable the onboard video
[07:51] <Rabiddog> zcat[1]_: heh teach me to take darkcrab 's word for it
[07:51] <snowveil> "cannot open sdb"
[07:51] <zvacet> knix : that is realy minimum
[07:51] <darkcrab> 2 gib partition? could it be, maybe.
[07:51] <Shadow420> helai I am a WinXP/Ubuntu user
[07:51] <tech0007> snowveil: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[07:51] <amen51> hi, the flash plugin(s) for firefox does not seem to work under ubuntu 8.04? (e.g. CNN website complains)
[07:51] <zcat[1]_> I never take anyone's word for anything :)
[07:51] <keegan> DSMatthews:  I have an intel pro,
[07:51] <knix> zvacet: maybe if you make your entire system on / like a fool
[07:51] <patifa> TooFly: If your PCI-e graphics card also has two outputs, try both of them.
[07:51] <darkcrab> well, I only have ubuntu on here right now
[07:51] <Shadow420> helai I use linux as an OS to get away from windows for awhile
[07:51] <Rabiddog> zcat[1]_: :D
[07:51] <helai> yes I also have this two os installed
[07:51] <knix> I have /usr /var /home /boot /tmp all on their own partitions ...
[07:51] <cycom> knix: it's not so foolish if your drive is small.
[07:52] <knix> My drive isn't small =(
[07:52] <DSMatthews> keegan: look up the driver docs for it....
[07:52] <TooFly> patifa: Yet another good idea!
[07:52] <patifa> I remember when I first put in a PCI-e card, it defaulted to the DVI output, when all I had was a VGA monitor hooked up to the VGA output.
[07:52] <norty> Rabiddog, how do i download that flash player, is there an apt-get command or something?
[07:52] <keegan> DSMatthews:  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG  , can u direct me to some documentation where i can chane the MAC address.
[07:52] <zcat[1]_> if adobe made a .deb I wouldn't trust them anyhow... they'd probably try to bundle the yahoo search toolbar for firefox with it :(
[07:52] <keegan> DSMatthews:  thanks.
[07:52] <tech0007> norty: flash-plugin-nonfree
[07:52] <OzFalcon> Why doesn't gparted have option to mount???
[07:52] <Rabiddog> patifa: yeah i had a issue with one port not working under linux,,,,,I forget the option I had to enable as a option on the kernel boot to get it to work
[07:52] <cycom> knix: no, but calling someone a fool before you know the details of why they did something can be evidence that your brain is.
[07:52] <barana> ere4si: r u still there?
[07:52] <helai> just like thunder,this is easy for me to download stuffs
[07:52] <snowveil> sdb is accounted for
[07:52] <Shadow420> helai heck if I wanted to I could have 3 on my PC
[07:52] <snowveil> I'm gonna run it for sda
[07:52] <ere4si> barana:
[07:52] <darkcrab> it works amen, just not well
[07:52] <bastadr> hallo .... how to install 7.10 WITHOUT FORMAT?
[07:52] <tech0007> norty: flashplugin-nonfree
[07:52] <zvacet> knix : CD is ~700MB and after decompressing what so you think how much space will need
[07:52] <bastadr> please .. I'm in the middle of it
[07:53] <Rabiddog> norty: actually it may be in ubuntu's non free repository iirc
[07:53] <patifa> TooFly: It'll probably never touch something like an s-video by default, but a VGA/DVI pair it definately could.
[07:53] <stdin> OzFalcon: because it's a partitioning tool, and partitions need to be unmounted to edit them
[07:53] <snowveil>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:53] <snowveil> /dev/sdb1               1<PHONE_NUMBER>+  83  Linux
[07:53] <snowveil> /dev/sdb2             893        9187    66629587+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[07:53] <snowveil> /dev/sdb3            9188        9729     4353615   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:53] <cycom> bastadr: resize your partitions...
[07:53] <FloodBot2> snowveil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <zcat[1]_> !pastebin
[07:53] <tech0007> !paste | snowveil
[07:53] <darkcrab> there are better gecko based browsers out there though and there is opera too
[07:53] <snowveil> I just used paste.ubuntu.com :-/
[07:53] <devrethman> Are there any linux AIM clients that support video?
[07:53] <amen51> darkcrab, used to work fine in 7.04
[07:53] <zcat[1]_> hehe, let's all flood the channel with don't flood trigegrs..
[07:53] <knix> zvacet: / is used for almost nothing ... I have a seperate /usr /var /boot /tmp /home ...
[07:53] <OzFalcon> stdin, k
[07:53] <norty> Rabiddog, it says that i already have it...
[07:53] <darkcrab> yea, its probably because of firefox 3 or its a new bug
[07:54] <darkcrab> there is a fix
[07:54] <Rabiddog> then remove the other flashplayers that u have installed
[07:54] <darkcrab> but I forget the download
[07:54] <Rabiddog> norty:
[07:54] <ere4si> barana: I asked if it was with one disk or several...?
[07:54] <amen51> darkcrab, can you watch CNN?
[07:54] <darkcrab> let me check
[07:54] <TooFly> yeah I have DVI/VGA on my monitor. My PCI-e card has DVI and VGA, and my onboard has only VGA. I plugged the DVI from monitor into my PCI-e card, and the VGA from monitor into the onboard.
[07:54] <Shadow420> bastadr you have to format because linux uses a differentfilesystem than windows or other OS's
[07:54] <TooFly> Now I have no video at all :(
[07:54] <Rabiddog> ....
[07:54] <TooFly> I at least got the boot menu with VGA in my PCI-e card
[07:54] <zvacet> knix :O.K.
[07:54] <Rabiddog> too fly did u disable onboard video?
[07:54] <snowveil> oh, ok, I get it
[07:55] <tech0007> TooFly: i think u should use either not both if you have 1 monitor
[07:55] <DSMatthews> keegan: not off the top of me head... sorry... that is the problem I had today, finding relevant and uptodate info for a specific setup.
[07:55] <patifa> TooFly: The VGA doesn't work past the boot menu?
[07:55] <Shadow420> bastadr you have to format because linux uses a different FileSystem than windows or other OS's
[07:55] <TooFly> OK.
[07:55] <helai> but from time to time,you will stick in the mud of the we site,(ie incompatibility)
[07:55] <mmmiiikkkeee> I am having problems with installing the package 'hal' since I upgraded to hardy.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/9406/  ... Is this the right place to ask about this problem?
[07:55] <keegan> DSMatthews:  its okay. thanks a lot for the help given
[07:55] <snowveil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9410/
[07:55] <darkcrab> yes I can watch CNN amen51
[07:56] <amen51> which plugin did you install
[07:56] <barana> ere4si: sorry i replied a little while ago i have just one but _it is_ a combo drive
[07:56] <Shadow420> helai I deal with that constantly because I have an older system at home
[07:56] <darkcrab> flash-nonfree
[07:56] <nickthorley> hi all - i installed a network wireless driver via ndis. if i go into it the driver is showing as hardware present but when i click the network settings box all cards are greyed out - is this because networkmanager has control?
[07:56] <Rabiddog> norty did u check for other installed flash players?
[07:56] <tech0007> snowveil: are you referring to the swap/solaris partition?
[07:56] <DSMatthews> keegan: google is your friend, if you spend time wading through all the noise
[07:56] <amen51> ok, thanks
[07:56] <snowveil> sda is only showing one partition, when it should be two (107gb and roughly 80gb)
[07:56] <norty> Rabiddog, no..
[07:56] <helai> yes,linux system is always good for old hardware
[07:56] <barana> ere4si: and yeah there is only one disk in it.
[07:56] <Rabiddog> u should only have 1 flashplayer installed at a time, otherwise they conflict
[07:56] <snowveil> when opening the 107gb partition in ubuntu's GUI, it shows that it is only 107gb in size, not the full 187
[07:57] <zvacet> mmmiiikkkeee : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:57] <darkcrab> the only thing ubuntu wont detect is my dialup, but frankly oh well
[07:57] <darkcrab> I doubt I will ever have a need for my dialup
[07:57] <darkcrab> on my laptop
[07:57] <ere4si> barana: I saw that - then said I meant disks not drives - the round shiny things - try another disk and see if it is the same
[07:57] <aLeSD> hi ... how can I run awn and emerald on startup ?
[07:57] <snowveil> however, when running that sudo fdisk command it only lists one parition, being the full size
[07:57] <zcat[1]> helai: you gotta be kidding.. Hardy is slow on machines that still run XP pretty well, it's only light compared to Vista!
[07:57] <mmmiiikkkeee> zvacet: I get the same out put with sudo dpkg --configure -a.   it still does not install!
[07:57] <darkcrab> the opensource flashplayer gnash sucks so bad.
[07:58] <Rabiddog> zcat[1]: u gotta be kidding
[07:58] <ikt> flash + firefox :<
[07:58] <zvacet> mmmiiikkkeee : sudo apt-get -f install
[07:58] <darkcrab> my machine was made for xp and hardy runs really fast.
[07:58] <Rabiddog> dark I agree
[07:58] <zcat[1]> I can still run XP in 128M ram, ubuntu is dog slow with that little.
[07:58] <Rabiddog> ...
[07:58] <darkcrab> in fact, hardy uses less ram on my system than xp did.
[07:58] <ikt> xp with 128mb of ram would be dog slow as well
[07:59] <helai> why you don't chose xfce instead
[07:59] <tech0007> snowveil: try mounting that SFS partition as NTFS
[07:59] <ikt> we never recommended xp with less than 256mb of ram, and that 256 was just for xp
[07:59] <TooFly> I'm sorry, my BIOS is confusing me. There is no option for "onboard video" in the menu. There is a PCI/PnP setup menu. I have change the field "Init Display First" from "PCI" to "PCI Express." Is this it?
[07:59] <darkcrab> ok, you can only run xp in 128 mgs of ram hacked zcat.
[07:59] <snowveil> sorry to be so ignorant, but how would I go about doing that?
[07:59] <snowveil> because it should be ntfs
[07:59] <zcat[1]> I dunno, perhaps it's just my expectation, I haven't actually run XP for a while but I'm pretty sure it wasn't this slow in 128M
[07:59] <barana> ere4si: oops sorry yeah tried a few discs dvds too but same issue
[07:59] <desneedy_> I've just installed xubuntu on my pc, and unfortunately have forgetten the root passwd.
[07:59] <patifa> doesn't sound right, TooFly.  What's your Motherboard and/or BIOS maker?
[07:59] <Rabiddog> zcat: its nt ubuntu its gnome
[07:59] <desneedy_> What can I do?
[08:00] <Slart> desneedy_: there is no root password.. do you mean your user password?
[08:00] <darkcrab> if you ran xp right now it woudl be super slow in 128m zcat
[08:00] <darkcrab> trust me
[08:00] <TooFly> patifa: ECS (some $50 mobo :()
[08:00] <mmmiiikkkeee> zvacet:  it gets to " Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald" and hangs and says: " initscript hal, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing hal (--configure):"
[08:00] <darkcrab> xp needs 512 minimum
[08:00] <zcat[1]> ubuntu -is- gnome .. if I wanted kde or xfce i'd have said kubuntu or xubuntu
[08:00] <ere4si> barana: the drive might be dying - can you try the same disks in another comp?
[08:00] <darkcrab> unless you nlite it
[08:00] <zionpsyfer> zcat[1]: I'm running ubuntu server on an old 233 with 64M.  apache, mysql, proftpd.  runs well enough.
[08:00] <Rabiddog> desneedy_: boot recovery and select root, then passwd (username)
[08:00] <patifa> TooFly: name some other BIOS options :S
[08:01] <kane77> zcat[1], try running xfce instead of gnome, I was running xfce on machine with 128MB ram and it was bearable...
[08:01] <ikt> running ubuntu 7.10 with 300mb of ram, p3, isn't fast but neither was xp on it
[08:01] <Shadow420> zcat[1] we know that other wise u would be here if u didn't have gnome
[08:01] <darkcrab> xfce is sweet
[08:01] <tech0007> snowveil: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
[08:01] <darkcrab> or even fluxbox
[08:01] <helai> if you prefer gnome ,of course it is heavy
[08:01] <patifa> TooFly: Do you know anything about your motherboard other than manufactuer?  Do you know what socke type the CPU is?  Trying to find your manual online.
[08:01] <node357a> desneedy_, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273531
[08:01] <ikt> flux = torrentflux?
[08:01] <zionpsyfer> darkcrab:  + 1 fluxbox
[08:01] <ere4si> barana: if the disks work in another comp - and your drive is found by nautilus then the drive is on its' way out
[08:01] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, this bug relates to your issue I believe:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/212960
[08:01] <TooFly> Yeah, it's 775 socket type I believe
[08:01] <ere4si> +1 flux
[08:01] <kane77> ikt, flux = fluxbox
[08:02] <Shadow420> ikt I have a p3 with 512MB and ubuntus fine on it
[08:02] <darkcrab> I like fluxbox a lot but I dont know how to configure my wireless in fluxbox without the gnome manager.
[08:02] <zcat[1]> perhaps I've just forgotten how slow XP used to be, I dunno..
[08:02] <TooFly> I will look up the manual
[08:02]  * Rabiddog slaps TooFly for buying a crap ecs mobo
[08:02] <CygnusX1> Is the gentleman that told me to use KDE if I wanted move/copy/cancel contecxt menu popup on drag-n-drop present?
[08:02] <snowveil> I need to log in as root :-/
[08:02] <darkcrab> zcat, with updates, its changed a lot
[08:02] <tech0007> snowveil: yep
[08:02] <snowveil> haha
[08:02] <TooFly> Rabiddog: it was a cpu/mobo deal from Fry's on black friday!
[08:02] <snowveil> sorry, but I forget how to do that
[08:02] <tech0007> snowveil: or use sudo
[08:02] <TooFly> great cpu, terrible mobo
[08:02] <patifa> TooFly: Ug, there's at least 50 different mobos listed from ECS with 775 socket type.
[08:02] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, if you like, you can pastebin the output of   dmesg
[08:02] <snowveil> what does sudo do exactly?
[08:02] <darkcrab> logs you into root snow
[08:02] <Rabiddog> TooFly: just because its cheap don't mean its a great deal :P
[08:02] <TooFly> Patifa: My apologies, it is 671T-M
[08:03] <tech0007> snowveil: gives you superuser priveleges
[08:03] <patifa> snowveil: "super user do"
[08:03] <Rabiddog> patifa: yep
[08:03] <tech0007> !sudo | snowveil
[08:03] <TooFly> Rabiddog: I am starting to agree.
[08:03] <snowveil> and, should I substitute "/mountpoint" with something else?
[08:03] <zvacet> mmmiiikkkeee : sudo apt-get install --reinstall hal
[08:03] <yrlnry> How can I tell grub I want it to default to kernel 2.6.22-14 instead of to 2.6.22-16
[08:03] <tech0007> snowveil: yep
[08:03] <magnetron> !grub | yrlnry
[08:03] <zionpsyfer> shame enlightenment died, used to love it.
[08:03] <zcat[1]> anyhow.. was using Vista last week, twice the ram I have, faster CPU, better everything.. and it just felt sluggish! I'll be installing Ubuntu on the box next week, I think the owner will be quite surprised at the difference
[08:03] <Viper111> hello guys i need help in VPN issues
[08:03] <Shadow420> snowveil sudo is your main command for many adim stuff like software installation and other things
[08:04] <helai> when you log on to the system ,please choose it in the grub menu
[08:04] <zcat[1]> (BTW; this box doesn't have 128M ram, it's got 2G :)
[08:04] <patifa> snowveil: Also whenever the system prompts you for your password to do computer administration, it's using sudo behind the scenes.
[08:04] <barana> ere4si: they work on anotherr machine(desktop) this machine is a new laptop - ive installed then re-installed ubuntu - the drive works under xp - my laptop is a lenovo 3000 n200 6xx the n200 769 has been tested by the community and is listed on the site - unfortunately they didnt say whether they tested the optical drive
[08:04] <darkcrab> personally, you know what I like about ubuntu over windows zcat, the command line
[08:04] <Viper111> i connect to my ubuntu server through VPN since connection is established i loose route to internet to everyhting, anybody can help in soloving such  prob
[08:04] <snowveil> sorry for all of the questions again, but how what should I substitute "/mountpoint" with?
[08:04] <darkcrab> windows has crappy command line support
[08:05] <jasonbx> how can i make different file types to be opened with tehir default applications in nautilus?
[08:05] <Shadow420> zcat[1] well Vista needs at least a 1GB to run so I won't go to vista unless I have too
[08:05] <babolat> hello
[08:05] <zcat[1]> darkcrab: yah, give me a cmd with tab completion!!
[08:05] <Rabiddog> yrlnry: /boot/grub/menu.lst , not sure if u have to reinstall grub though don't remember
[08:05] <darkcrab> oh yea
[08:05] <tech0007> snowveil: mkdir /media/sda
[08:05] <yrlnry> Rabiddog: thanks.
[08:05] <DistroJockey> yrlnry, in   /boot/grub/menu.lst    where it says    default 0    (meaning the 1st title in the list)  change it to an appropriate number
[08:05] <flemnos> windows' cmd has tab completion
[08:05] <babolat> jasonbx: you'll have to define them if they're not that common file types
[08:05] <tech0007> snowveil: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda
[08:05] <patifa> TooFly: huuge manual :S
[08:05] <helai> left click it then follow it
[08:05] <zcat[1]> it does?!
[08:05] <yrlnry> Rabiddog: menu.list also mentions that grub has a "savedefault" command.
[08:05] <ere4si> barana: if the disks work and the drive is recognized in nautilus the drive is on its' way out/dead - can't be anything else afaik
[08:05] <flemnos> zcat[1]: yea.
[08:05] <bullgard4> [Hardy] In what directory does tracker store its index files?
[08:05] <yrlnry> DistroJockey: thanks.
[08:06] <zcat[1]> never works for me
[08:06] <jasonbx> babolat, whre do I define them?
[08:06] <TooFly> patifa: I'm reading the paper copy, which looks short. Could you link me?
[08:06] <mmmiiikkkeee> DistroJockey: here is my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/9411/
[08:06] <DistroJockey> Rabiddog, yrlnry : no you don't need to re-install grub (changes take affect straight away after reboot)
[08:06] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[08:06] <zcat[1]> XP, not Vista ...
[08:06] <patifa> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?detailid=811&DetailName=Manual&MenuID=44&LanID=0
[08:06] <DistroJockey> yrlnry, you're welcome
[08:06] <tech0007> snowveil: you may have to use sudo mkdir /media/sda
[08:06] <flemnos> zcat[1]: and up/down arrow for previous command scrolling.
[08:06] <Viper111> i connect to my ubuntu server through VPN since connection is established i loose route to internet to everyhting, anybody can help in soloving such  prob
[08:06] <patifa> TooFly: Either that or I'm downloading a bunch of pictures in a PDF, won't know till I finish since the thing is zipped.
[08:06] <babolat> jasonbx: Right click the file and get to Open with Different Application or somethin' like that. then browse to your app
[08:06] <snowveil> yup, figured that one out :)
[08:06] <flemnos> zcat[1]: yea, in xp.
[08:06] <zcat[1]> flemnos: but not between sessions ..
[08:06] <Rabiddog> DistroJockey: ah thats right, been a long time since I played with grub directly
[08:06] <snowveil> k, time to see if anything changed I guess
[08:06] <zionpsyfer> Viper111: you might want to check your route? only route the subnet you need to get to through VPN through the interface.
[08:06] <mmmiiikkkeee> zvacet: I have tryed to do sudo apt-get install --reinstall hal before and that does not work either.
[08:06] <TooFly> patifa: gotcha
[08:07] <flemnos> zcat[1]: true.
[08:07] <darkcrab> i do love xp for so many reasons, but one thing that annoys me is that every time you install something you get a new startup item.
[08:07] <tech0007> snowveil: you'll get the hang of it :-D
[08:07] <darkcrab> and you have to keep that startup item for your new program to work
[08:07] <LSD|Ninja> Is their somethign wrong with my system or has Hardy received no updates at all yet?
[08:07] <barana> ere4si: im a ubuntu noob how do i envoke nautilus to check it?
[08:07] <darkcrab> ok back to topic
[08:07] <helai> it is the interesting point of xp
[08:07] <patifa> TooFly: Only 50 KB/sec for a 23 MB document, and I know I can pull more than 50 KB/sec.
[08:07] <babolat> LSD|Ninja: no updates as far as i know
[08:07] <darkcrab> what do you mean barana
[08:07] <Shadow420> zcat[1] I have a p3  1Ghz with 512MB and XP/Ubuntu run just fine
[08:07] <ere4si> barana: open your /home folder and see if the cd is listed in the right pane
[08:07] <TooFly> patifa: Bad mobo = bad company = bad server :)
[08:07] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, seems to be having an issue with your network card driver
[08:08] <bullgard4> LSD|Ninja: No, there were no updates yet.
[08:08] <DistroJockey> Rabiddog, :)
[08:08] <zvacet> mmmiiikkkeee : that is all I can think of,sorry
[08:08] <yrlnry> Something on my system is causing disk seeking once per second.  The noise is bugging me.  How can I track down what it is?
[08:08]  * Rabiddog growls at ubuntu kernel and dmraid
[08:08] <zcat[1]> Shadow420: yeah, the ram makes all the difference
[08:08] <snowveil> tech0007: mounting it as NTFS appears to only duplicate what is already mounted as SFS
[08:08] <mojoe430> whats up
[08:08] <n2diy> yrlnry: top
[08:08] <LSD|Ninja> Ah, OK. Was getting a bit woried there :P
[08:08] <darkcrab> i have 1.26 gb of ram
[08:08] <desneedy_> Rabiddog: I remember the user passwd, just forgot the root passwd
[08:08] <yrlnry> n2diy: I already stared at top; it didn't  help.
[08:08] <aLeSD> hi all -... someone could tell me how to start awn on login ?
[08:09] <yrlnry> n2diy: Unless top has a sort-by-disk-activity option or something.
[08:09] <babolat> yrlnry: disk seeking /?
[08:09] <tech0007> snowveil: so its already mount before you did sudo mount -t nfs?
[08:09] <Shadow420> zcat[1] plus the amount of the graphics card onboard memory
[08:09] <TooFly> I'm sorry, someone linked me to the Alternate (non-graphic) installation of Ubuntu, but I lost the link. Could I get it again?
[08:09] <snowveil> yes
[08:09] <ere4si> barana: sorry - left pane...
[08:09] <snowveil> but on sda
[08:09] <darkcrab> ah my graphics card sucks
[08:09] <snowveil> there should be another partition
[08:09] <darkcrab> thats the only thing about this sytsem that really bugs me
[08:09] <yrlnry> babolat: I can hear the disk head moving, and the disk activity LED is blinking once per second.
[08:09] <patifa> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ <-- It's on that page, TooFly.
[08:09] <Slart> !alternate | TooFly
[08:09] <tech0007> snowveil: so which partition is missing?
[08:09] <babolat> !log | Toofly
[08:09] <snowveil> the drive is 200gb (well, 188 or so really), and the only visible partition is 108GB of that
[08:09] <adam7> desneedy_, if you can use sudo you can do sudo passwd root to change the root password
[08:09] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, doesn't look like a very happy  dmesg  at all :(
[08:09] <TooFly> thank you
[08:09] <gina_> hi.. im frustrated can someone help me.. i had to reinstall ubunto on my macbook pro and now i cant found the site with the instructions to install the wireless!
[08:10] <n2diy> yrlnry: where are you? It could be fdisk running around 4am?
[08:10] <gina_> someone help me out here before
[08:10] <adam7> !wireless | gin-san
[08:10] <HermanChess> is it possible to install ubuntu leaving /home intact ?
[08:10] <barana> ere4si: yeah its listed there as cd-rom 1
[08:10] <adam7> !wireless | gina_
[08:10] <bokey> @join #ubuntu-np
[08:10] <mmmiiikkkeee> DistroJockey: should i remove the network card and try to install hal again?
[08:10] <DistroJockey> TooFly, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[08:10] <bokey> ubottu: >_<
[08:10] <tech0007> snowveil: from the looks of it, it seems you did not make full use of sda when you did th emanul aprtitioning
[08:10] <Rabiddog> gina_: when I get frustrated I take a long break and go out and party :)
[08:10] <babolat> yrlnry: check your SysMon if there are processes that's trying to access that HD
[08:10] <yrlnry> n2diy: Could be something like that.  I'll see if it continues tomorrow.
[08:10] <ere4si> barana: you have a drive that won't read then...
[08:10] <kane77> HermanChess, if you have separate partition for it
[08:10] <snowveil> is there a way to remedy that?
[08:10] <LSD|Ninja> gina_: there's an Intel Mac page on the wiki
[08:10] <barana> ere4si: but when i try to open it tells me it can mount selected volume
[08:10] <ere4si> barana: it's hardware not ubuntu
[08:11] <zcat[1]> brb
[08:11] <snowveil> the partitions were already established before I installed ubuntu
[08:11] <tech0007> snowveil: you can repartition if you dont have any data on sda
[08:11] <darkcrab> gina, administration>hardware drivers
[08:11] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, try to install    linux-ubuntu-modules
[08:11] <gina_> ok
[08:11] <gina_> im checking this website but
[08:11] <LSD|Ninja> gina_: I take it that since you have a problem the new madwifi isn't in 8.04?
[08:11] <barana> ere4si: sorry canT mount volume
[08:11] <gina_> someone sent me another one
[08:11] <snowveil> I have about 70GB on sda, plus the other 100 or so that's visible :-/
[08:11] <gina_> very easy to install!
[08:11] <gina_> for the macbook pro!
[08:11] <gina_> i dont remember the name of the site :(
[08:11] <darkcrab> i keep forgetting these new macbooks are intel
[08:11] <ere4si> barana: 'cause it can't read the cd 'cause it's broken
[08:12] <tech0007> snowveil: not sure, but did you ask if you can use all 200G of that hard drive
[08:12] <tech0007> ?
[08:12] <HermanChess> kane77: I thought it was going to be a new feature .... ah well
[08:12] <gina_> that site rules!!!
[08:12] <babolat> darkcrab: i know.. aint that weird
[08:12] <gina_> and help me install my wireless very easy :()
[08:12] <gina_> but well
[08:12] <darkcrab> it totally is man
[08:12] <yrlnry>  babolat: I don't see anything relevant in SysMon.
[08:12] <gina_> i will search more
[08:12] <desneedy_> adam7: thanks, I changed the root passwd with sudo. Great.
[08:12] <barana> ere4si: so even if xp on another partition when booted on the same machine reads ?
[08:12] <snowveil> not that I recall, tech0007
[08:12] <LSD|Ninja> gina_: yeah, 7.10 went onto my MacBook without too much hassle. Having to compile madwifi to get the wireless going though... forget it. Ubuntu was removed shortly after that :)
[08:13] <Carbonflux> so if the routing tables are in the kernel how does it know how to restore them after a reboot ?
[08:13] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, check out those launchpad bugs I listed for possible fixes
[08:13] <Carbonflux> they must be in a file
[08:13] <mmmiiikkkeee> DistroJockey: is said: "linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic is already the newest version" I guess it is already installed?
[08:13] <stdin> !away > roxandAWAY
[08:13] <gina_> i dont get it ninja
[08:13] <tech0007> snowveil: ok, coz 200G-188G=12G seems a lot
[08:13] <desneedy_> xubuntu seems to slow on my 256m ram laptop.
[08:14] <nickthorley> lsd|ninja: if you dont mind me asking what was it about linux that tore you away from mac osx - i can understand windows but would have thought os x very good?
[08:14] <ere4si> barana: you've tried lately?
[08:14] <desneedy_> Is there any way to speed it up?
[08:14] <TooFly> patifa: I finished downloading the manual - perhaps you'll see the genius that is ECS's BIOS setup.
[08:14] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, sounds like it, yeah.  Maybe a re-install of those. (but not sure that will work or help)
[08:14] <snowveil> Gparted shows 185.17 used out of  186.31GB in one single partition
[08:14] <TooFly> I swear there is no on-board VGA option.
[08:14] <Hamled> how would I determine what brand of touchpad I have? For some reason it has become really sensitive, and the turning off "enable mouse clicks with the touchpad" in the mouse configuration app is not working
[08:14] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, I'm assuming you upgraded?
[08:14] <snowveil> however, the GUI in ubuntu shows the mounted /sda as only having a total capacity of 107GB
[08:14] <tech0007> snowveil: gparted would should unused or unparitioned space
[08:15] <snowveil> hum
[08:15] <Rabiddog> TooFly: gigabyte has a key combo that enables advanced features, although I doubt ECS does that
[08:15] <mmmiiikkkeee> DistroJockey: yes I upgraded
[08:15] <barana> ere4si: definately
[08:15] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, *nods*
[08:15] <zvacet>        gina_   : are you looking for this                            https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[08:15] <LSD|Ninja> nickthorley: I only installed Ubuntu on it for S&G. If the wireless had worked OOB I may have left it there a little longer but I wasn't prepared to put the kind of effort that was required into getting it working for somethign I was never going to really use
[08:15] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, seen lots of upgrades go bad unfortunately
[08:15] <babolat> hello
[08:15] <HitMan> I havea VDS. If I install Ubutu-Desktop or Kubuntu or Xubuntu, and many people connect to it via Nomachine NX or something. Will they all see the same desktop or different ones?
[08:16] <xintron> ok, how should I split my hdd when installing ubuntu? I got a 60 GB
[08:16] <patifa> TooFly: indeed
[08:16] <ere4si> barana: ok - one min
[08:16] <mmmiiikkkeee> DistroJockey:  you think a fresh install might fix it?
[08:16] <Viper111> i connect to my ubuntu server through VPN since connection is established i loose route to internet to everyhting, anybody can help in soloving such  prob
[08:16] <TooFly> Time to try the alternate installation?
[08:16] <manhthienbkhn> helo
[08:16] <patifa> TooFly: It stinks.  PCI / PnP Setup might be it, but it's also clear this was all translated, so who knows how accurate the translation was.
[08:16] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, 90% sure :)
[08:16] <barana> ere4si: its the ubuntu install cd i used to re-install on sda2 this morning
[08:16] <babolat> xintron: my take wud be gparted
[08:16] <TooFly> Ok, I'll give it a shot.
[08:16] <nickthorley> lsd|ninja: no thats fair enough - suppose you could use a vm anyway - what do you do for a living are you a designer hence a mac or just prefer the hardware and os
[08:17] <xintron> babolat: How big for home and how big for the rest?
[08:17] <TooFly> Do you know what "Allocate IRQ to PCI VGA" means?
[08:17] <ere4si> barana: can you paste the /etc/fstab file ?
[08:17] <TooFly> or what is IRQ?
[08:17] <Ziroday> !grub
[08:17] <ere4si> !paste | barana
[08:17] <Rabiddog> patifa: I was thinking that too but ain't willing bet money on it
[08:17] <Viper111> i connect to my ubuntu server through VPN since connection is established i loose route to internet to everyhting, anybody can help in soloving such  prob
[08:17] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, go the Alternate CD if you plan do download a CD
[08:17] <Rabiddog> TooFly: not a issue nowadays really
[08:17] <TooFly> ok
[08:17] <Rabiddog> although being a ECS board...
[08:18] <TooFly> heh heh...
[08:18] <Rabiddog> sighs
[08:18] <tijn> Does anyone else had the big font problem with Firefox 3?
[08:18] <tijn> has*
[08:18] <patifa> TooFly: Uhh.  I do, but it's not something I can explain in any level of simple terms.  The trick is that that options may also fully disable the onboard graphics.
[08:18] <xintron> How big should the partitions be when installing ubuntu on a 60 GB?
[08:18] <Rabiddog> tijn: ctrl -?
[08:18] <mmmiiikkkeee> DistroJockey: only problem is i don't have a cd-burner. :(
[08:18] <TooFly> I see
[08:18] <tijn> Rabiddog, no, that not it
[08:18] <patifa> TooFly: Or it'll just make it really, really slow.
[08:18] <Rabiddog> patifa: lmao
[08:18] <tijn> Rabiddog, that makes to text in links even smaller
[08:19] <roxandAWAY> N-N-N-Netsplit!
[08:19] <DistroJockey> !install | mmmiiikkkeee
[08:19] <ere4si> tijn: you can set the font size in   edit-preferences
[08:19] <Rabiddog> weeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:19] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, check out that first link first
[08:19] <TooFly> Ok, I'll just try the alternate install for now.
[08:19] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, there are ways to do it without burning
[08:19] <ere4si> DistroJockey: hi
[08:19] <patifa> TooFly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrupt Here you go.  The wikipedia article isn't something I'd consider an 'easy read', either.
[08:19] <tijn> ere4si, i know, already set to smallest
[08:19] <DistroJockey> Heyya ere4si  :)
[08:20] <TooFly> Will it be easy to install the drivers or whatever to enable Ubuntu to recognize my PCI-e card after alternate installation?
[08:20] <TooFly> patifa: thanks
[08:20] <KAMPIZJ> !ops | DistroJockey
[08:20]  * Rabiddog gives TooFly his tinfoil hat
[08:20] <KAMPIZJ> !ops  DistroJockey
[08:20] <DistroJockey> KAMPIZJ, ?
[08:20] <KAMPIZJ> !ops |  DistroJockey
[08:20] <stdin> KAMPIZJ: what?
[08:20] <DistroJockey> KAMPIZJ, what's your issue?
[08:20] <KAMPIZJ> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS DICK
[08:20] <HitMan> I have a VDS. If I install Ubutu-Desktop or Kubuntu or Xubuntu, and many people connect to it via Nomachine NX or something using their accounts. Will they all see the same desktop or different ones?
[08:20] <Rabiddog> heh
[08:20] <ere4si> tijn: and holding the ctrl key and scrolling with the mouse wheel doesn't help?
[08:21] <patifa> looks like the spammer is resorting ot spamming !ops, how nice :\
[08:21] <tijn> ere4si, hmm dont have a wheel mouse, mom
[08:21] <Rabiddog> patifa: enlightening
[08:21] <manhthienbkhn> do u know RAID?
[08:21] <patifa> TooFly: if you can get it to output something after the kernel finishes initial boot.
[08:21] <sriramoman> could someone tell me how to install gambas in hardy x86_64?
[08:21] <ere4si> tijn: ctrl and the + - buttons?
[08:21] <HitMan> somebody answer me!
[08:21] <tech0007> !patience | Hitman
[08:22] <TooFly> patifa: I let the black screen sit for about 5 minutes this time, and the peach-colored Ubuntu background came up!
[08:22] <manhthienbkhn> RAID+Fedora 6
[08:22] <winux> Hi all.. is there a way to use a terminal emacs instead of this graphics emacs?
[08:22] <TooFly> and there was music and a cursor
[08:22] <TooFly> it was glorious
[08:22] <ere4si> HitMan: whats a vds?
[08:22] <flemnos> winux: emacs -nw
[08:22] <TooFly> and then it went back to the black screen
[08:22] <TooFly> :(
[08:22] <HitMan> Virtual Dedicated Server
[08:22] <manhthienbkhn> install hardware RAID+Fedora?
[08:22] <patifa> TooFly: :(
[08:22] <winux> flemnos: sweet thanks
[08:22] <patifa> You may have some other wierd issues.  I dunno.
[08:22] <mmmiiikkkeee> DistroJockey: If I am going to reinstall how can I get a list of all the packages I currently have intsalled?
[08:22] <gina_> i get it now! i see the problem now!... r3403 has been reported not to work since march 28
[08:22] <gina_> http://madwifi.org/ticket/1852
[08:22] <TooFly> Yeah, I think you're right.
[08:22] <patifa> That cheap mobo probably isn't helping a ton.
[08:23] <TooFly> Not at all.
[08:23] <ere4si> HitMan: someone in #ubuntu-servers might know
[08:23] <tijn> ere4si, it helps a little :) whats the diff between ctrl - - and ctrl - scroll?
[08:23] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, maybe    apt-cache showpkg
[08:23] <HitMan> Also, which desktop version of Ubuntu is lightest? gnome, xfce, or KDE?
[08:23] <zvacet> mmmiiikkkeee :  dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[08:23] <ere4si> tijn: I have a scroll wheel and ctrl + up/down with it makes the font largr/smaller
[08:23] <tech0007> HitMan: xfce
[08:23] <DistroJockey> zvacet, ahh, nice
[08:23] <qwiksand> hey, u used to use windows now ubuntu and i'm finding it really hard to use gimp to design anything. can i get some help with that?
[08:24] <TooFly> patifa: It looks like it's working!
[08:24] <TooFly> Just had to wait a bit
[08:24] <TooFly> So now I'm at a desktop with 3 icons, one of which is "install". That's where I go, yes?
[08:24] <babola1> !gimp | qwiksand
[08:24] <tech0007> qwiksand: !gimp
[08:24] <qwiksand> what does "! gimp" mean?
[08:24] <zvacet> DistroJockey I know.And for reinstall dpkg --set-selections < installed-software and then dselect
[08:25] <patifa> TooFly: Install would be it.  Just look up the install guide online, now, if you want.
[08:25] <DistroJockey> mmmiiikkkeee, ignore my command, go with zvacet's :)
[08:25] <babola1> qwiksand: we were trying to tell the channel bot to help u where to go
[08:25] <TooFly> patifa: fantastic, thanks for your help (and patience!)
[08:25] <TooFly> thanks to DistroJockey and Rabiddog too
[08:25] <DistroJockey> zvacet, ahh, thanks. Never done/need to do that :)
[08:25] <qwiksand> babolal oh thanks
[08:25] <DistroJockey> TooFly, you're welcome
[08:25] <tech0007> qwiksand: try #gimp-users
[08:25] <patifa> TooFly: You may yet have some strange issues, considering how long it took to boot.  There could be a hardware interface problem that was stalling the boot up.
[08:26] <babola1> qwiksand
[08:26] <zvacet> DistroJockey : but it is good to know
[08:26] <babola1> qwiksand: also try this --> qwiksand
[08:26] <DistroJockey> zvacet, indeed
[08:26] <babola1> www.gimp-tutorials.com
[08:26] <patifa> ooo, FloodBot1 just took FloodBot2 down a notch. ;)
[08:26] <babola1> qwiksand: www.gimp-tutorials.com
[08:27] <HitMan> Do the application : Firefox, Emule, and BitTorrent run fine on XFCE?
[08:27] <tech0007> HitMan: yep
[08:27] <stdin> HitMan: all applications will
[08:27] <HitMan> Thanks
[08:27] <zvacet> mmmiiikkkeee : or you if you have separate home you can save it with aptoncd (itis in synaptic)
[08:27] <bullgard4> [Hardy] In what directory does tracker store its index files?
[08:28] <ihancioglu> Hello , I have installed latest driver and ubuntu 8.04 . I would like to switch powerstate automatic when change the power source battery or AC. I was configured /etc/default/fglrx file in the past on my 7.10 and previous driver version. But that file is not exist any more. Do you have any idea to do that?
[08:28] <HitMan> stdin: if all applications run fine of all desktops, then what are these different desktops for?
[08:28] <figmentj1324> hi can someone help me?
[08:28] <unop> bullgard1, use find and find out :)   find ~ -iname "*tracker*" -type d
[08:28] <tech0007> HitMan: taste? choice really..
[08:28] <stdin> HitMan: different preferences
[08:28] <patifa> HitMan: different style/behavior
[08:28] <HitMan> So which desktop is the best?
[08:28] <stdin> !best
[08:29] <tech0007> HitMan: that's debatable
[08:29] <babola1> !poll | HitMan
[08:29] <ikonia> bullgard4: according to the docs it doesn't appear to be index files
[08:29] <DistroJockey> ooo, nice one ubottu :)
[08:29] <zvacet> mmmiiikkkeee : but if you don´t have it mail that text file to yourself
[08:30] <TooFly> In general, how much swap space do you guys allocate?
[08:30] <ikonia> TooFly: depends on your ram, disk space and how you use the system
[08:30] <patifa> HitMan: Though it's GNOME/KDE as the really popular ones.   xfce is almost a special case for being really lightweight and fast (and thus running on older hardware better)
[08:30]  * DistroJockey didn't expect the bot to say "see above" :)
[08:30] <HitMan> patifa: Thats useful
[08:30] <gina_> hello i need to edit.. /etc/default/acpi-support
[08:30] <gina_> how can i go there?
[08:30] <figmentj1324> HELLO?
[08:30] <ikonia> gina_: sudo vi /etc/default/apci-support
[08:30] <gina_> i type that on terminal but didnt work
[08:30] <TooFly> I have 2gb ram, ~400gb disk space, and I won't be using the system for anything TOO intense.. a few scripts here and there
[08:30] <ikonia> figmentj1324: hello
[08:30] <gina_> ok thanks
[08:31] <TooFly> ballpark amount?
[08:31] <ikonia> gina_: what did i say
[08:31] <figmentj1324> cool
[08:31] <stdin> TooFly: in general you won't need more that 1GB, but if you want to be able to hibernate you need ~1.5-2*RAM
[08:31] <DistroJockey> !ask | figmentj1324
[08:31] <figmentj1324> ikonia
[08:31] <HitMan> I already have Ubuntu Server, how do i get ubuntu desktop?
[08:31] <ikonia> TooFly: is it a laptop ?
[08:31] <Girindor> gina: it's much easier using gedit - instead of sudo vi ..... do "sudo gedit ......"
[08:31] <ikonia> TooFly: do you use suspend ?
[08:31] <LSD|Ninja> TooFly: with 2GB you don't need an awful lot of swap space unless you plan on using hibernate
[08:31] <vlad> gftp is installed but it doesnt support ssl connections how can i activate this?
[08:31] <stdin> HitMan: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[08:31] <TooFly> ikonia: No, desktop. I don't usually hibernate - just leave it idle sometimes.
[08:31] <ikonia> HitMan: download the ubuntu desktop cd, rather than using the server platform with a desktop
[08:31] <zvacet> HitMan : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sesktop
[08:32] <ikonia> TooFly: 1, 2GB
[08:32] <ikonia> TooFly: more than enough
[08:32] <HitMan> Thanks : zvacet, stdin
[08:32] <zvacet> *desktop
[08:32] <TooFly> Should I make a separate 2gb partition?
[08:32] <ikonia> TooFly: yes
[08:32] <joshjjosh> ubuntu isnt fast enough what do i do
[08:32] <ikonia> TooFly: marked as swap
[08:32] <united> how do i customise the start menu?
[08:32] <ikonia> joshjjosh: what do you want to do ?
[08:32] <figmentj1324> I want to know if anyone can teach me how to create a .deb fie out of a tar.bz source code
[08:32] <TooFly> Great, thank you ikonia
[08:32] <united> so i can change the words
[08:32] <ikonia> figmentj1324: thats quite a long process, one moment
[08:32] <patifa> united: The Applications menu of GNOME?
[08:32] <ikonia> figmentj1324: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[08:32] <DistroJockey> united, right click on Applications and choose Edit Menus
[08:33] <gaurav> hey how do i enable user dirs in apache2 on gutsy? soething like http://example.com/~User ?
[08:33] <joshjjosh> i dont know, i have good graphics turned off because it was hurting my eyes
[08:33] <Viper111> guys i need ur help
[08:33] <ikonia> gupruo: load the mod_userdir
[08:33] <shtewe> yes?
[08:33] <gaurav> ikonia, ah!
[08:33] <figmentj1324> wouldit be possiable to do it for me?
[08:33] <Viper111> when i connect to my server through VPn i loose connection can anybody guide me
[08:33] <unop> gaurav, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_userdir.html
[08:33] <ikonia> figmentj1324: pardon ?
[08:33] <DistroJockey> united, no renaming via that though it that's what you need
[08:33] <HitMan> stdin: what are the minimum requirements for installing KDE, gnome or Xfce?
[08:34] <ikonia> Viper111: lose connetion to what ?
[08:34] <nefrin> hello everyone, was wondering if I could get some input on some segfaults I am receiving while running Ubuntu 8.04
[08:34] <ikonia> nefrin: in what application
[08:34] <negge> hi guys
[08:34] <united> thx guys
[08:34] <negge> is it possible to share folders with NFS over the internet?
[08:34] <Palik> óó
[08:34] <stdin> HitMan: generally no less than 256MB RAM, but 512 recommended, any modern CPU and a graphics card
[08:34] <ikonia> nefrin: sure, not advisable but it is possible
[08:34] <zvacet> HitMan :Xfce need less ram then other two
[08:34] <nefrin> ikonia: several apps, including firefox 3, sticky notes, gnome, etc
[08:35] <ere4si> negge: best if you ssh the nfs mounts
[08:35] <DistroJockey> united, you're welcome, hope that helped
[08:35] <Viper111> ikonia loose internet connection
[08:35] <HitMan> zvcet: thanks
[08:35] <HitMan> stdin: thanks
[08:35] <Palik> áëÿ à ÷å ýò òóò âñå íà àíãë áàçàðÿòü?
[08:35] <ikonia> nefrin: Hmmmm that leans more towards ram/cpu issues than software, have you run a memcheck ?
[08:35] <negge> ere4si do you know any guide somewhere that'll tell me how to do it?
[08:35] <united> sure it is
[08:35] <united> for newbie like me
[08:35] <Viper111> ikonia i need to go throuogh internet and browse shared folders usng VPn but its not working
[08:35] <ere4si> negge: one min
[08:35] <nefrin> ran memtest earlier for 5 passes, no errors
[08:35] <ikonia> Viper111: you will do as your vpn'd onto another network so your tunneled off the network
[08:35] <Palik> ïèçäåö
[08:35] <lassegul> negge: it is but it is not recommended. Try ftp?
[08:35] <Palik> off
[08:36] <Viper111> ikonia i didnt get wat you mean
[08:36] <HermanChess> how can I know what video card I have ?
[08:36] <negge> lassegul FTP is too complicated
[08:36] <HitMan> How do I create a user that has equal access as root?
[08:36] <Flannel> HitMan: you mean has the ability to sudo?
[08:36] <HermanChess> HitMan: that would be root
[08:36] <ikonia> Viper111: one you open a VPN, your tunneled onto that network, so if that network doesn't have internet access, you won't get onto the internet
[08:36] <negge> I'd like my friends music folder to appear as a normal folder on my computer and vice versa
[08:36] <joshjjosh> how come i cant get the desktop switching thing in windows
[08:36] <lassegul> negge: nfs over internet isnt easy either.
[08:36] <HitMan> flannel: yes
[08:36] <stdin> HitMan: they just need to be in the admin group to use sudo
[08:36] <negge> lassegul are there any other messages?
[08:36] <nefrin> ikonia: I have a listing of the segfaults I have been recieving, posted a few of them to the ubuntu forums as well
[08:36] <ikonia> nefrin: windows doesn't have desktop switching lke ubuntu
[08:36] <Viper111> ikonia ok thts gd, how can i make my VPN connection when dialed go through internet
[08:37] <ikonia> nefrin: post the thread
[08:37] <HitMan> stdin: ho do I PUT them in the admin group?
[08:37] <Flannel> HitMan: Just create the new user, then add them to the admin group.  Actually, in users and groups, there should be a checkbox for it.
[08:37] <zvacet> HitMan : sudo adduser username admin
[08:37] <HitMan> zvacet: thanks
[08:37] <ikonia> Viper111: you can make a vpn connection, over the internet over any connection, as long as you are connected to the internet access
[08:37] <zvacet> HitMan :np
[08:37] <mgmz> whats the deal with synaptic?
[08:37] <ikonia> mgmz: in what way
[08:37] <napnap_> hello here
[08:38] <lassegul> negge: try this guide, its easy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[08:38] <nefrin> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778058 errors are listed on page 2
[08:38] <figmentj1324> i just want someone to quickly teach me how to make install ./configure from source code...
[08:38] <mgmz> ikonia:?
[08:38] <Flannel> !compile | figmentj1324
[08:38] <mgmz> are the servers down?
[08:38] <figmentj1324> i want to install celtx
[08:38] <AnswerGuy> !bugreport
[08:38] <ikonia> figmentj1324: thats not an ubuntu "problem" http://www.tldp.org has guides to making basic software, there is also the ubuntu guide I posted you
[08:39] <Viper111> ikonia i have a ubuntu server that has internet access + squid server, i made a vpn connection, but when i dial it i llose internet connectivity on my pc's
[08:39] <ikonia> mgmz: which servers, there are hundreds
[08:39] <AnswerGuy> !bug
[08:39] <ere4si> negge: try this - http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[08:39] <zvacet>    figmentj1324 :                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[08:39] <mgmz> i mean for synaptic
[08:39] <mgmz> i  cant get any packages
[08:39] <negge> ere4si lassegul thanks for the links
[08:39] <DistroJockey> figmentj1324, all decent source packages have a readme
[08:39] <ikonia> Viper111: yes, as I explained you will do, once your server is cnnected to the VPN, you will drop off your public connection as it's on the vpn networ
[08:39] <qwiksand> doesnaanyone have an animated wallpaper running
[08:39] <herbaliser> i have upgrade to 8.10 and i'm running in low graphics mode
[08:40] <joshjjosh> i cant get tinyos to work in heron
[08:40] <ikonia> mgmz: can you browse the internet
[08:40] <Viper111> so how i can fix that ad make it go through internet through this VPN connection
[08:40] <mgmz> ikonia: i changed to the main server, i htink its working
[08:40] <ikonia> joshjjosh: tinyos?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:40] <herbaliser> how do i install nvidia drivers?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | herbaliser
[08:40] <lassegul> negge: i agree with ere4si, sshfs is easy. you can even just use a regular fpt-client with ssh support to make it even easier.
[08:40] <napnap_> I try to use java plugin with Hardy x64, I'm very sad because all my tests fails... :-( ...I've installed a 32bit version of firefox, with a 32bits JRE, then I created the symbolic link in the firefox plugin dir ... But all applets said me "Class not found". Anyone can tell me how to do please ?
[08:40] <DistroJockey> heyya ActionParsnip
[08:40] <mgmz> ikonia: i was using the AUS server.. i dont htink it works atm
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> hi DistroJockey
[08:40] <ikonia> Viper111: you'll need to setup routing, but I don't think your understanding, once your server is connected to the VPN, it will not be on your local network
[08:40] <ikonia> mgmz: change servers ?
[08:40] <AnswerGuy> I found a bug in the python-twisted-conch conch.py script
[08:41] <mgmz> ikonia: yeh i did
[08:41] <Viper111> how can i setup routng
[08:41] <ikonia> napnap_: is your class path setup ?
[08:41] <mazingaz78> hi, in the ubuntu 8.04 not exchange resolution video, and dpkg-reconfigure... only mouse and keyboard..... help
[08:41] <ikonia> Viper111: that depends on your nework
[08:41] <ikonia> network
[08:41] <qwiksand> napnap i had the same problem
[08:41] <Viper111> ikonia i have a real IP on one NIC and face on other
[08:42] <HitMan> How do I install Firefox and BitTorrent on my Ubuntu?
[08:42] <negge> lassegul it seems pretty easy, gonna install it now
[08:42] <negge> I have SSH access to the other computer so I can test to see if I can get it working
[08:42] <ere4si> HitMan: they come standard
[08:42] <ikonia> Viper111: thats not enough information
[08:42] <mgmz> HitMan: use synaptic.. search for them
[08:42] <Viper111> ikonia tell me wat do u need
[08:42] <napnap_> ikonia: is not stupid :) lol, I will try
[08:42] <ikonia> HitMan: it's already installed
[08:42] <ikonia> HitMan: use the desktop OS
[08:42] <mgmz> HitMan: firfox should already be installed, but bit torrent is in repos
[08:42] <zvacet> HitMan : firefox should be there
[08:42] <ikonia> HitMan: stop using the server
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> HitMan: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:43] <mgmz> lol
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> HitMan: you will probably already have gtorrent (or whatever gnome uses)
[08:43] <ikonia> Viper111: I'm not going to help you design routing for your network, you need to get a basic understanding of routing
[08:43] <HitMan> I have 512 ram, what desktop do I install?
[08:43] <zionpsyfer> Viper111:  You really should read up first so you have a good basic understanding.  Here's a good page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[08:43] <ere4si> HitMan: there's a hint
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | HitMan
[08:43] <ikonia> HitMan: the ubuntu desktop install CD
[08:43] <ikonia> hullon: I believe you installed the server
[08:43] <zvacet> HitMan : I use gnome with same ram
[08:43] <ikonia> HitMan: I believe you insalled the server
[08:43] <Jamsori> I have a WG111v2 internet adapter (yucky, i know) and it stops working in about 5 seconds. Any help?
[08:43] <HitMan> I have the server, I want dresktop on it
[08:44] <zionpsyfer> Viper111: Pay attention especially to the routing section.
[08:44] <ikonia> HitMan: download the desktop OS
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> HitMan: if you wanna save max ram install xubuntu
[08:44] <Jamsori> I'm using Hardy.
[08:44] <ikonia> HitMan: you'll find it much easier to you
[08:44] <ikonia> use
[08:44] <bullgard4> unop: Thank you for your help.
[08:44] <ikonia> bullgard4: did it use files ?
[08:45] <Jamsori> Anyone? :)
[08:45] <ikonia> Jamsori: saying anyone is pointless
[08:45] <Jamsori> True :(
[08:45] <Tux2K8> hi
[08:45] <ikonia> Jamsori: if someone didn't see the question "anyone" won't help you, if someone doesn't answer saying "anyone" won't get a response
[08:45] <Tux2K8> where do I need to put a script to run 'ddclient' each time the system starts ?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> Jamsori: you go tall the latest updates?
[08:45] <HitMan> What softare does Xubuntu come with as standard?
[08:45] <ikonia> Tux2K8: /etc/rc.local
[08:45] <ikonia> HitMan: standard desktop suite
[08:45] <napnap_> ikonia: I set the JAVA_HOME , CLASSPATH, and PATH but same error
[08:46] <Tux2K8> ikonia : thanks
[08:46] <unop> Tux2K8, you can also create a cron job with @reboot
[08:46] <ikonia> napnap_: what class is it failing to load
[08:46] <HitMan> ikonia: which includes?
[08:46] <joshjjosh> is that the same as ~/.profile
[08:46] <ikonia> hullon: http://www.ubuntu.com - have a rad
[08:46] <ikonia> read
[08:46] <ikonia> ughh
[08:46] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:46] <mgmz> i was using windows XP with vmplayer... how do i uninstall it - im in ubuntu atm
[08:46] <ikonia> HitMan: http://www.ubuntu.com - have a read
[08:46] <Jamsori> It doesn't say i can update anything. I've tried ndiswrapper - it doesn't work as intended.
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> mgmz: add remove programs?
[08:46] <zionpsyfer> heh
[08:46] <fudus4> how do i hide join/parts from xchat-gnome?
[08:46] <HitMan> and finalyy, how do i install Xubuntu?
[08:46] <mgmz> ActionParsnip: it doesn shop up
[08:47] <bullgard4> ikonia: Nautilus calls the type of Tracker files 'db documents'. Don't thea include indexes?
[08:47] <qwiksand> i saw a youtube video where XP was installed on ubuntu, how do i do that?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Jamsori: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:47] <DistroJockey> HitMan,     sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <TooFly> Installing Ubuntu -- stuck at "Configuring apt" at 82% "Scanning the mirror...", anyone had this problem before?
[08:47] <mgmz> and i cant see the Windows Partition in QTparted
[08:47] <ikonia> bullgard4: possibly, I was reading the docs when you asked, I don't know
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> mgmz: then run the installer to install then uninstall gracefully
[08:47] <zvacet> HitMan :adding to server version or fresh install
[08:47] <Banditul> what is the command that let me sort lines
[08:47] <Jamsori> Thanks - doing it now.
[08:47] <ikonia> HitMan: download the ubuntu desktop cd from http://www.ubuntu.com and install the desktop cd
[08:47] <HitMan> zvacet: adding
[08:47] <bullgard4> ikonia: What docs do you refer to?
[08:47] <mgmz> k
[08:48] <Jamsori> Nope, says nothing needs updating or upgrading.
[08:48] <ikonia> bullgard4: on soureforge and the ubuntu wiki
[08:48] <zvacet> HitMan : sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:48] <HitMan> zvacet: thanks
[08:48] <zvacet> HitMan : it is O.K.
[08:48] <ikonia> HitMan: I'll only mention it one more time. The desktop install cd is more setup for desktop hardware and will give you better results. I STRONGLY advise you download it and use it to learn rather than typing blinding into a server install
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Jamsori: if you still  get no joy i'll help you websearch
[08:48] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you for your information.
[08:48] <Mell> papua
[08:49] <HitMan> ikonia: why?
[08:49] <paco_> ciao
[08:49] <paco_> in italiano?
[08:49] <fudus4> How can I bind commands to mouse keys?
[08:49] <ikonia> HitMan: because it's more setup for destktop hardware, has specialist packages and tools for desktop hardware use, it's easier to use as a learning tool and will run better and more supported on desktop hardware
[08:49] <fudus4> like send page down when i scroll down
[08:49] <DistroJockey> ikonia, HitMan : I advise the Alternate CD if you don't need a Live CD :)
[08:49] <ikonia> HitMan: you'll find it a much more useful and easy tool
[08:50] <Flannel> !it | paco_
[08:50] <qwiksand> how so i install windows xp to run in ubuntu
[08:50] <HitMan> DistroJockey: Whats an Alternate CD?
[08:50] <fudus4> web searches and ubuntu forum is all unhelpful
[08:50] <ikonia> DistroJockey: thanks for opening another can of worms for him
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> !alternative | HitMan
[08:50] <DistroJockey> HitMan, tis an install cd that has more options
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: and now its closed
[08:50] <Jamsori> ActionParsnip: Well, the adapter itself works fine for about 5-30 seconds, but then the Internet is inaccessible and doesn't work. Unplugging it and plugging it back in just makes it work again for another 5-30 seconds.
[08:50] <DistroJockey> ikonia, well, it's closer to server
[08:51] <HitMan> Actually, i am installing it to Virtual Dedicated Server, so I am BOUND to use the Apt-Gt ay to get it
[08:51] <ikonia> DistroJockey: no it's nothing like a server install
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Jamsori: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365
[08:51] <DistroJockey> ikonia, HitMan : and I usually hit Esc at boot and then type expert at the prompt :)
[08:51] <ikonia> HitMan: your not, you can use iso images to install into desktop servers
[08:51] <DistroJockey> ikonia, I said closer, not that it was like it :)
[08:52] <ikonia> DistroJockey: it's not closer
[08:52] <ere4si> !minimal | HitMan
[08:52] <ikonia> DistroJockey: please think about the advice your giving tot he level of user your giving it to
[08:52] <DistroJockey> ikonia, ok, peace
[08:52] <TooFly> I am installing Ubuntu, installation is stuck at 82% (Configuring apt, Scanning the mirror)... any help?
[08:52] <HitMan> its in America. How am I suppose to go to America and Insert the CD?
[08:52] <Jamsori> ActionParsnip: Looking now - thanks.
[08:52] <ikonia> HitMan: there are mirrors all around the world
[08:52] <DistroJockey> ikonia, he was running server, I think my advise was appropriate
[08:53] <HitMan> How do I run the image on a server to which I only have access through SSH?
[08:53] <Jamsori> Hitman: Can't you ask your VPS/VDS host to install Ubuntu for you?
[08:53] <gharz> guys, i'm learning c programming... but everytime i run gcc filename.c i always get an error error: stdio.h: No such file or directory.. what could be the problem?
[08:53] <HitMan> Jamsori: he doesn't have Uuntu-desktop on his install rack
[08:53] <bazhang> Bodsda: you still around?
[08:53] <ikonia> HitMan: in that senario DistroJockey's alternative cd would be solid advice
[08:54] <ikonia> HitMan: if you only have ssh access to that machine, why are you trying to install firefox ?
[08:54] <ere4si> !build-essential | gharz
[08:54] <ikonia> HitMan: eg: how do you expect to run firefox over ssh
[08:54] <sinzmanual> hello,i have a problem la
[08:54] <sinzmanual> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[08:54] <Jamsori> Hitman: I see. :(
[08:54] <aaronp> Wow, the default Gutsy /boot partition size isn't big enough for the Hardy upgrade.  Way to go, Ubuntu installer.
[08:54] <HitMan> I dont have physical access, only virual. through all means
[08:54] <ikonia> HitMan: ok, so why do you want the desktop products installed ?
[08:54] <HitMan> ikonia: I will run NX server on it
[08:55] <TooFly> I am installing Ubuntu, installation is stuck at 82% (Configuring apt, Scanning the mirror)... any help?
[08:55] <cartman|office> ok I did a stupid thing and did s/hardy/inteprid in my sources list and did a apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:55] <zvacet> sinzmanual : sudo apt-get update
[08:55] <denysonique> HitMan: you want to run ff on an other rremote machine?
[08:55] <HitMan> I have to run firefox thats hy
[08:55] <cartman|office> is there a way to go back to hardy?
[08:55] <gharz> thanks... i'll check.
[08:55] <saschahl> aaronp: maybe you just have too many kernels installed
[08:55] <ikonia> HitMan: use the alternative cd as DistroJockey suggested then
[08:55] <bazhang> TooFly: let it run
[08:55] <ikonia> HitMan: it will install a read to go desktop for you
[08:55] <sinzmanual> igot that problem after sudo apt-get update
[08:55] <HitMan> ikonia: how do I run it?
[08:55] <ere4si> TooFly: give it a few minutes
[08:55] <TooFly> Any idea on how long? It's been about 10 min
[08:55] <TooFly> ok
[08:55] <ikonia> HitMan: the same way you run the server install
[08:55] <ikonia> HitMan: download the cd
[08:55] <HitMan> then?
[08:56] <zvacet> sinzmanual : did you try to change server
[08:56] <ikonia> HitMan: install it, the same way you installed the sever install
[08:56] <bazhang> cartman|office: there is no intrepid
[08:56] <HitMan> I didn't
[08:56] <HitMan> The host did
[08:56] <ikonia> HitMan: you didn't install the server ?
[08:56] <ikonia> oooh
[08:56] <bazhang> aaronp: what is wrong with your installer
[08:56] <DistroJockey> !install | HitMan The first link has methods of installing from an iso
[08:56] <sinzmanual> zvacet,same la.i've change other server
[08:57] <aaronp> saschahl, bazhang: Turns out there was an initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak file wasting enough space for there to not be enough to upgrade.
[08:57] <HitMan> How do i run the iso image?
[08:57] <TooFly> so i pressed ctrl+alt+f1, how do i get back to the gui?
[08:57] <DistroJockey> HitMan, read link :)
[08:57] <HitMan> ok
[08:57] <ikonia> HitMan: don't worry about it, you'll struggle to install it as you already have a running os
[08:57] <bazhang> ctrl alt f7 TooFly
[08:57] <TooFly> lol thank you
[08:57] <ikonia> HitMan: from what your saying, your locked into the server os
[08:58] <negge> ere4si sshfs worked perfectly!
[08:58] <negge> i could even skip a couple of steps in the guide as it was meant for breezy
[08:58] <ere4si> negge: happy for you :)
[08:58] <emergion> Anyone know whats up with flash and sound in the latest release?
[08:58] <negge> ere4si yeah thanks
[08:58] <zvacet> sinzmanual : check your source list it is working for me
[08:58] <emergion> Just installed from package manager
[08:58] <negge> --> smallville and lost
[08:58] <emergion> but no go on sound
[08:58] <fudus4> how do i bind a key to mouse down?
[08:59] <CarlF1> how can I turn on the cpu fan ?
[08:59] <ikonia> CarlF1: the cpu fan should be running 24x7
[09:00] <CarlF1> ikonia: on a laptop
[09:00] <ikonia> CarlF1: it should not be turn off-able
[09:00] <magnetron> emergion: there's a checklist on the page that ubottu while tell you about
[09:00] <ikonia> CarlF1: ah
[09:00] <magnetron> !flash | emergion
[09:00] <ikonia> CarlF1: it should turn on / off as needed
[09:00] <CarlF1> ikonia: i agree, but this laptop has issues, and is way hot right now
[09:00] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, ikonia : sounds like an acpi issue
[09:00] <ikonia> CarlF1: I'm not sure how you could force it on
[09:01] <CarlF1> it hurts my leg it is so hot
[09:01] <Jamsori> ActionParsnip: Thanks for all your help, but it doesn't look like that guide worked.
[09:01] <mattycoze> !logs
[09:01] <leeyee> Hi guys, i got a problem on 3D acceleration with ATI9000 in Ubuntu 8.04
[09:01] <DistroJockey> ikona , CarlF1 : maybe a setting in    /proc/acpi/fan    (no idea what though)
[09:02] <mattycoze> can someone tell me where to find logs about what might be causing my pc to freeze randomly?
[09:02] <leeyee> It was fine under Gusty, i could enable compiz effect normally. but it doesn't work anymore in Hardy
[09:02] <ikonia> CarlF1: mattycoze /var/log/messages
[09:02] <ikonia> oops
[09:02] <ikonia> mattycoze: /var/log/messages
[09:02] <CarlF1> FN00$ cat state; status:                  on
[09:02] <CarlF1> doesnt feel on
[09:02] <ikonia> CarlF1: try disabling power managment in the bios
[09:03] <ikonia> CarlF1: so it is on all the time
[09:03] <gogeta> ikonia acully in linux
[09:03] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, what about in   /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[09:03] <united> how can i run kopete in gnome?
[09:03] <KAMPIZJ> !ops|united
[09:03] <KAMPIZJ> !ops|united
[09:03] <KAMPIZJ> !ops|united
[09:03] <gogeta> ikonia you whant the bios to controle it
[09:03] <FloodBot1> KAMPIZJ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <thecarp> hey, quick question, does anyone know where I could see the source for various basic linux commands like who or ls
[09:03] <DistroJockey> !ops | KAMPIZJ
[09:03] <KAMPIZJ> !ops | united
[09:03] <ikonia> gogeta: pardon ?
[09:03] <mattycoze> ikonia the file "messages" isn't there, is that because the system has no record of the problem that occured?
[09:04] <KAMPIZJ> !ops | ikonia
[09:04] <DistroJockey> remove KAMPIZJ please
[09:04] <ikonia> KAMPIZJ: what are you doing calling the ops ?
[09:04] <gogeta> ikonia if your gonna disable power mangment do it in linux let the bios handel it
[09:04] <qwiksand> i'm trying to download a movie, i know that if i was using windows it would have been further but its moving really slow. any suggestions as to what might be we wrong...using BitTorrent Download Client
[09:04] <sinzmanual> ihave the error Failed to fetch http://my.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to my.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:04] <blame> Is therey any tool to set my ubuntu box execute NAT and enable internet on a secondary computer?
[09:04] <mattycoze> ikonia; i thought there was a whole program that summarised the logs for shutdown, startup ect...
[09:04] <ikonia> gogeta: it looks like linux has it set "on" though, if this laptop has a problem, I thought it sensibelt to force it on at a hardware level
[09:04] <thecarp> hey, quick question, does anyone know where I could see the source for various basic linux commands like who or ls?
[09:04] <kane77> blame, yes, wait a second
[09:04] <TooFly> My Ubuntu installation is still stuck at 82% (Configuring apt, scanning the mirror). It seems this is a common problem, but I can't find a solution?
[09:05] <manifest_> good morning
[09:05] <ikonia> thecarp: they are just gnu tools, things like "binutils" as a package or "fileutils"
[09:05] <gogeta> ikonia thats noramly a acpi issue with fans letting the bios set it as always on will work around it
[09:05] <Smegzor> I have several old kernels and I want to remove all but the last two.  I can see them in synaptic.  Do I remove them there and do i want to do a complete removal or just the remove option?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> TooFly: i think you need to drop to cli and nuke a task
[09:05] <ikonia> thecarp: http://www.gnu.org
[09:05] <ikonia> gogeta: yes, sounds reasonable
[09:05] <thecarp> thank you very much
[09:05] <CarlF1> DistroJockey: temperature:             60 C   - ouch,,,,
[09:05] <ikonia> Smegzor: your call
[09:05] <TooFly> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I am new to this - could you explain "drop to cli"?
[09:05] <manifest_> carlF1: where do u have such temperatures?
[09:06] <bazhang> TooFly: best to let it run
[09:06] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, yeah, a little high
[09:06] <CarlF1> manifest_: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM$ cat temperature ; temperature:             60 C
[09:06] <TooFly> It isn't frozen, it just takes a while?
[09:06] <HitMan> Ikonia: I think my head will explode. Just tell me what will be the disadvantage to using sudo apt-get to install Uuntu-Desktop
[09:06] <zvacet> Smegzor : complete removal
[09:06] <manifest_> :S
[09:06] <COMBIZ> !ops | manifest_
[09:06] <Smegzor> thanks
[09:07] <blame> kane77: ?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> TooFly: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-517393.html
[09:07] <gogeta> ikonia i had acpi do that on a old pc of mine it would turn a fan off but not back on
[09:07] <gogeta> ikonia then overheat and init shutdown
[09:07] <bazhang> TooFly: you can control c out of it if you want--that will mean you just have to set up your sources list later--best to let it time out on its own
[09:07] <ikonia> gogeta: sounds very reasonable
[09:07] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, what notebook is it? running Hardy?
[09:07] <HitMan> Ikonia: I think my head will explode. Just tell me what will be the disadvantage to using sudo apt-get to install Uuntu-Desktop
[09:07] <TooFly> bazhang: So the installation will time out, and then continue on its own?
[09:07] <Jack3> will my install ever finish? it has been sitting at 94% configuring hardware for 30 minutes now..?
[09:08] <ikonia> HitMan: in your senario, it doesn't matter as a.) your using virtual kit b.) your locked into the server os
[09:08] <bazhang> TooFly: the configuring apt will and then continue
[09:08] <omnz0r> Jack3: No it wont
[09:08] <kane77> blame, http://pastie.caboo.se/190379 replace wlan0 with interface that has internet, and eth0 with interface that you want to have internet...
[09:08] <CarlF1> DistroJockey: "built on asus" - installed ubuntu about 2 years ago, havn't really kept it up to date
[09:08] <TooFly> bazhang: Ballpark time on how long this will take?
[09:08] <HitMan> ikonia: I am not locked. I can use sudo apt-get to get desktop
[09:08] <ikonia> HitMan: yes, but thats still the server os
[09:08] <HitMan> ikonia: so?
[09:08] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, and your fan has been like that for 2 years?!
[09:09] <bazhang> TooFly: hard to say; maybe go make a cup of hot chocolate
[09:09] <ikonia> HitMan: so thats why I'm saying it doesn't apply in your senario, your locked into the server OS
[09:09] <TooFly> Haha, alright.
[09:09] <kane77> blame, and you will also need to do this as a root: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[09:09] <sajt> Hello
[09:09] <Jack3> omnz0r, are you serious?
[09:09] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, not that 60c is critical
[09:09] <blame> thanks kane77 I'll try and let you know what happened.
[09:09] <HitMan> ikonia: I am not. I can use sudo apt-get. then startx. then install NX server./ then use NX client to access it
[09:09] <bazhang> Jack3: what is it doing? installing grub part been reached yet?
[09:09] <omnz0r> Jack3: Normally it takes about 30 mins to do the entire install, so it sound like it froze
[09:09] <ikonia> HitMan: yes thats the Server OS - you can't change the core os
[09:10] <bullgard4> Nautilus lists a type for every filename it displays. Where can I find a list of the elements of the set of types that are available in this Nautilus column?
[09:10] <HitMan> ikonia: just tell me the differnce betwenn CD install and apt-get install I will face?
[09:10] <CarlF1> DistroJockey: i think it got worse - todays thought is that the thermo broke, and it dosn't think it is hot enough for the fan - but 60 should have turned it on i would think
[09:10] <ikonia> HitMan: there isn't any
[09:10] <Jack3> mouse still works and such and cd is still spinnging but nothing seems to be working
[09:10] <CarlF1> DistroJockey: i think the fan broke
[09:10] <ikonia> HitMan: it's the same package
[09:10] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, possible
[09:10] <HitMan> ikonia: so I WILL see the desltop if I use apt-get?
[09:10] <kane77> blame, actually you can append that last line I written (echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) into that script and run it all as root...
[09:10] <omnz0r> Jack3: try burn a new cd or something
[09:10] <sajt> I upgraded from gusty to hardy but mysound is not working. I have a gigabyte motherboard with a realtek alc889A sound. How can I make it?
[09:10] <Jack3> bazhang, im not sure, but i do know i chose XFS for my root and it said GRUB might not work but didnt give an option for lilo
[09:10] <omnz0r> it sounds weird
[09:10] <gogeta> CarlF1 disable acpi let your bios handel it they should run at 100%
[09:10] <ikonia> HitMan: no - you will get A desktop on the server OS, not the desktop OS install
[09:11] <DistroJockey> CarlF1, if sothing changed software wise, then it is highly likely the fan has failed
[09:11] <DistroJockey> nothing^
[09:11] <HitMan> ikonia: I ill se the desktop. do everything that can be done on a desktop?
[09:11] <sajt> I do not find any sound support in the kernel
[09:11] <gogeta> DistroJockey sudden failers are to rare
[09:11] <bazhang> Jack3: any particular reason to choose xfs instead of ext3? was it for the speed? :)
[09:11] <ikonia> HitMan: most things, but as your using virtual hardware it won't call you issues
[09:11] <gogeta> DistroJockey it woulda been making alot of noise befor hand
[09:12] <DistroJockey> gogeta, with a fan in a 2 year old laptop?
[09:12] <gogeta> DistroJockey yep
[09:12] <DistroJockey> gogeta, maybe, maybe not
[09:12] <Jack3> bazhang, yes ;) but you dont think that is why this is hpapening?
[09:12] <HitMan> ikonia: but it WILL run firefox and bittorrent?
[09:12] <ikonia> HitMan: yes
[09:12] <HitMan> ikonia: thats all I want from it
[09:12] <ikonia> HitMan: you'll be fine
[09:12] <DistroJockey> gogeta, alot of dust could just slow it to a crawl then stop it
[09:12] <HitMan> ikonie: you worried me for nothing in particualr
[09:12] <phoenix180> greetings everyone! I managed to start re-installing kubuntu after messing it up by trying to install 7.10 but at around 82%, the install actually froze.  I restarted the PC and now it looks like part of kubuntu installed.  My question is this: can I "update" kubuntu to just install whatever didn't get to finish installing?
[09:12] <gogeta> DistroJockey that woulda straned the abring making noise
[09:13] <bazhang> Jack3: possible though difficult to say without trying ext3 and another burned disk with the md5sum matched against the iso file
[09:13] <norty> Question: I've just upgraded from ubuntu 7.10 to 8.01 and when i put my mouse over the text box in google the outline disappears, is there a fix for this?
[09:13] <Jack3> i have the iso, how do i check md5sum?
[09:13] <gogeta> DistroJockey i blow up powersupplys alot soo
[09:13] <DistroJockey> gogeta, maybe, but not always
[09:13] <DistroJockey> gogeta, :)
[09:13] <bazhang> !md5 | jack3
[09:13] <zibcom> !ops | Jack3
[09:13] <blame> kane77: I didn't work, how do I assess the problem?
[09:13] <gogeta> DistroJockey i never had a sudden failer
[09:14] <shtewe> i love ubuntu
[09:14] <milos_> I can't send files from Nokia N70 to Hardy(in Gutsy everything worked fine) anybody know the solution?
[09:14] <Jack3> bazhang, i acutlaly did something stupid that may have caused it, half way thru the download in firefox, i accidently clicked paused and then resumed the download, maybe that messed it up?
[09:14] <DistroJockey> gogeta, that's good. Just saying it's possible and can be gradual
[09:14] <kloeri> bazhang: ban the host instead of nicks
[09:14] <gogeta> DistroJockey not that a fans expensiv to replace anyways
[09:14] <Jack3> zibcom, why did i need to know the oplist?
[09:15] <bazhang> Jack3: ignore him he is try to spam the chan
[09:15] <magnetron> milos_: are you using bluetooth?
[09:15] <milos_> magnetron: yeah
[09:15]  * gogeta rember 1 of his case fans needs cleaning
[09:15] <napnap_> whart can be the reason to obtain all the time "class not found" with the 32 bits java 6 plugin on firefox 32 bits on hardy x64 with CLASSPATH and JAVA_HOME set ?
[09:15] <gogeta> lol
[09:15] <DistroJockey> heh
[09:15] <gogeta> DistroJockeyi own a amd this thing eats fans
[09:16] <chazco> Hi... i've tried to move to FF2 on Hardy (FF3 is very unstable), but not sure how to do it properly. Is there any guide to doing this?
[09:16] <kane77> blame, what does "sudo iptables -L" tell you? and waht about "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" ?
[09:17] <napnap_> chazco: have you the java plugin working ?
[09:17] <ikonia> napnap_: are you using a 32bit OS
[09:17] <napnap_> ikonia: no, a 64 os
[09:17] <manifest_> how do i open an mp3 player from terminate?
[09:17] <maek> sudo apt get remove firefox3.0
[09:17] <chazco> napnap_ - No idea... it just crashes when i try to enter a URL, scroll a page... close FF3...
[09:17] <bazhang> jack3 that is unlikely
[09:17] <ikonia> napnap_: the java plugin is a real effort with 64bit
[09:17] <ikonia> napnap_: what class is failing ?
[09:17] <maek> sudo apt get install firefox2.0
[09:17] <chazco> maek - Tried that approach, caused issues with some other stuff
[09:18] <DistroJockey> maek, that would be    sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[09:18] <blame> kane77: It worked!!! I just re-executed the script you recommended and it actually worked. Thank you so much!
[09:18] <napnap_> ikonia: all...specific class of the applet, not inner java class (the first attempt)
[09:18] <chazco> May move back to Gusty for now, seemed to be generally more stable
[09:18] <Arelis_> Hello everybody. I found a nice laptop, will it work with Ubuntu? here are the specs: http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=35389&GROEP_ID=156&TAB=specificaties
[09:18] <kane77> blame, no problem ;)
[09:19] <shtewe> they say that you should wait a month after the release to update because of bugs
[09:19] <fudus4> how do i add apps to the quck launch thing? the one which starts off with firefox evolution
[09:19] <ikonia> napnap_: can you just use the jvm to do say -version
[09:19] <manifest_> arelis: i see no problem why shouldnt work
[09:19] <chazco> Also having the font issue on Hardy, but only on one PC (identical installs)
[09:19] <ikonia> napnap_: sounds like it's not got all the 32bit stuff it wants
[09:19] <shtewe> not like vista, u have to wait 2 years until it will be almost as good as xp
[09:19] <magnetron> milos_: i installed gnome-bluetooth and gnome-vfs-obexftp to connect my N95 in gutsy. i also had to set the gnome-obex-server to autostart
[09:19] <Heston> Arelis_, although i recommend you research what you buy a fair but, that laptop should have no problem running ubuntu
[09:19] <napnap_> ikonia: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_06-b02)
[09:19] <manifest_> how do i open an mp3 player from terminate?
[09:20] <ikonia> napnap_: can you build a hello world class ?
[09:20] <magnetron> manifest_: it's usually in the /media folder
[09:20] <zvacet> manifest_ : try type player name
[09:20] <napnap_> ikonia: I will try... a moment.
[09:20] <ikonia> napnap_: apologies this is overkill
[09:21] <magnetron> manifest_: wait, are you referring to the software or a USB hardware?
[09:21] <blame> kane77: slight problem. Routing at some poing seem work, though the DNS look ups are failing. Skype connected (which uses direct IP) but it cannot resolve domain names on the target computer. Where do I dig up?
[09:21] <Jack3> bazhang, my iso passed md5sum
[09:21] <manifest_> magnetron: software
[09:22] <bazhang> Jack3: now try burning at a lower speed if possible then run diskcheck when you boot up
[09:22] <kane77> blame, do you have the dns set up on the second computer?
[09:22] <Arelis_> Hello everybody. I found a nice laptop, will it work with Ubuntu? here are the specs: http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=35389&GROEP_ID=156&TAB=specificaties
[09:22] <magnetron> manifest_: you cans start a graphical mp3 player from terminal. is this what you want?
[09:22] <napnap_> ikonia:  I don't javac , I only the jre for the moment
[09:22] <ikonia> napnap_: ah
[09:22] <gogeta> Arelis_ i probly can find better
[09:23] <manifest_> yes, a program that plays mp3-format sounds
[09:23] <gogeta> :P
[09:23] <milos_> magnetron: i am always starting gnome-obex-server manualy. Is there any difference, I mean it should be the same. I also have gnome-bluetooth and gnome-vfs-obexftp installed
[09:23] <gogeta> Arelis_ thats pretty sad
[09:23] <blame> kane77: I am using static routing, did not install dhcpd and on the target box (XP) the DNS is set to be the ubunut's gateway (<IP_ADDRESS>), should I try and place the my ISP's NS on the target box?
[09:24] <jmg> hi all
[09:24] <magnetron> milos_: i just find it more convenient. did you repair the phone after you installed hardy?
[09:24] <jmg> freevo is broken in hardy
[09:24] <DistroJockey> !broken | jmg
[09:24] <DistroJockey> :(
[09:24] <kane77> blame, yes I'm having that set up and am using ISP's dns on the second box
[09:24] <magnetron> jmg: ok, would you please consider filing a bug at launchpad?
[09:25] <jmg> magnetron: not until i can fix it
[09:25] <mymines> 大家好！
[09:25] <Hejknarneeeeee> Any1 here having wow on wine working in the 8.04 ?
[09:25] <artti> I have problem with file rights. I have game under in home folder, how i do that other users can play it.
[09:25] <magnetron> jmg: filing the bug will give some publicity to the problem and speed up the process of fixing it
[09:26] <zionpsyfer> Hejknarneeeeee:  Works well here.  PulseAudio with it is nice, finally have music, game sounds and voice chat
[09:26] <jmg> also launchpad is too slow to report any bugs today
[09:26] <jmg> magnetron: doubt it
[09:26] <Jack3> bazhang, right now im checking the cd with defects, that shoudl tell right?
[09:26] <Hejknarneeeeee> zionpsyfer, do you have an ati card ?
[09:26] <milos_> magnetron: no, i didn't chage nothing on the phone. I did a upgrade from Gutsy, maybe upgrade have make some problems, i will try now to put gnome-obex-server in Sessions
[09:26] <zionpsyfer> Hejknarneeeeee: Nay, I have a geforce
[09:27] <bazhang> Jack3: sorry ; yes that would be a good idea
[09:27] <magnetron> jmg: launchpad is also an effective way on getting YOUR fix into ubuntu fast
[09:27] <blame> kane77: as expected ISP DNSs worked on target box. Last question, do I need to execute the iptable script everytime I boot ot is it permanent?
[09:27] <zvacet> Jack3 : if Cd is good go for install
[09:27] <Hejknarneeeeee> zionpsyfer, does your minimap work ?
[09:27] <bazhang> !cn | mymines
[09:28] <zionpsyfer> Hejknarneeeeee: Indeed.  I haven't run into any weird issues yet besides my mouse feeling very very slightly sluggish
[09:28] <magnetron> milos_: the pairing needs to be ok on both sides, check if your phone is in the list: right click the B in the notification area and see if gnome knows about it
[09:28] <Jack3> zvacet, i did already but it just sat at configuring hardware 94% for like 40minutes lol
[09:28] <bazhang> zvacet: this is round 2 :)
[09:28] <Jack3> bazhang, it passed with no defects :(
[09:28] <Hejknarneeeeee> zionpsyfer: ok, all my ingame text gets bugged when i switch between outdoor and indoor areas
[09:29] <bazhang> Jack3: dont feel bad; one user in here took 34 times before it worked
[09:29] <Hejknarneeeeee> zionpsyfer: when i have the minimap enabled
[09:29] <Jack3> haha ouch
[09:29] <zionpsyfer> Hejknarneeeeee: lame.  =(  Maybe a firegl bug?
[09:29] <^root^> hi! can anyone tell me in which my panel related information is stored? e.g. which applets were placed on the panels, what was the size and etc
[09:30] <^root^> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[09:30] <bazhang> jack3 but he finally got it :)
[09:30] <phoenix180> reetings everyone! I managed to start re-installing kubuntu after messing it up by trying to install 7.10 but at around 82%, the install actually froze.  I restarted the PC and now it looks like part of kubuntu installed.  My question is this: can I "update" kubuntu to just install whatever didn't get to finish installing?
[09:30] <Jack3> hopefully me too
[09:30] <Hejknarneeeeee> may be.. indeed
[09:30] <manifest_> how do i delete mplayer?
[09:30] <Hejknarneeeeee> well i'll try to solve it
[09:30] <bazhang> phoenix180: that does not sound good-->best go for a fresh install
[09:30] <magnetron> Hejknarneeeeee: are you running wow in opengl mode?
[09:30] <zvacet> manifest_ : from synaptic
[09:30] <napnap_> ikonia:  I installed the jdk, compiled the class, then java test said me "Hello World", so it works
[09:30] <Jack3> my setup right nnow has 3 ide hard drives + floppy (2 of the hdds of fujitsus 3gb and 1 is a maxtor 9gb. im installing xfs on the 9gb and swap on one of the fujitsus)
[09:30] <anAngel> Hello. I just installed ubuntu 8.04 and it doesn't detect my graphics adapter at all. I am using intel g33 chipset with integrated intel X3100 video. The xorg.conf file is almost empty, nothing specific about my adapter or monitor. And my screen resolution is wrong and i cant set it up to say 1280x1024
[09:31] <phoenix180> darnit!! that's what I feared..thanks bazhang
[09:31] <mymines> haha
[09:31] <Jack3> i just removed the USB pinheaders that go to the front of the case cause i dont think i put them on correctly anyways
[09:31] <zionpsyfer> Hejknarneeeeee: Yep,  opengl with latest winehq deb.
[09:31] <bazhang> phoenix180: perhaps technically possible but know way of telling how long it would hold or what was damaged
[09:31] <zionpsyfer> Hejknarneeeeee:  You running opengl?
[09:31] <magnetron> anAngel: the drivers of that card are no good. ubuntu knows about your card but there's unfortunately not much to do
[09:31] <Hejknarneeeeee> magnetron: i have the opengl setting activated in the config.wtf file
[09:32] <bazhang> mymines: /j #ubuntu-cn thanks
[09:32] <phoenix180> yea I am going to attempt to install it once more before sleeping.  I have been fighting with it all night
[09:32] <^root^> anyone?
[09:32] <Hejknarneeeeee> and i installed wine yesterday from scratch
[09:32] <mymines> thank you!
[09:32] <magnetron> Hejknarneeeeee: the official wine/wow guide is on wowwiki, try the troubleshooting solutions in there
[09:32] <zionpsyfer> Gah, I know it's getting time for bed when I start mixing up peoples messages and mistaking them as meant for me.
[09:32] <ArthurArchnix> Looks like rythmbox removed close to tray support back in version 0.96... anyone know how to get that back?
[09:32] <zvacet> manifest_ : did you try run man mplayer to see options
[09:33] <kane77> blame, the way I do it is that I run it each time I boot (just save it as script somewhere and put it in rc.local) but there should be something to save your iptables and then restore them, but I'm not quite sure
[09:33] <Jack3> bazhang, the cd boots into live mode fine, should i look at anything in there before trying to install again?
[09:33] <anAngel> magnetron: so can i do something about the resolution at least. is there any other configuration utility? i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but nothing changed
[09:33] <bazhang> jack3 if grub is warning about xfs, then why not go for ext3? the speed gain will not be *that* great imo
[09:34] <Jack3> can i use resier instead?
[09:34] <magnetron> anAngel: are you confusing me with someone else?
[09:34] <bazhang> sure jack3 should do, but really ext3 is the best one out there
[09:35] <jetyang> hi
[09:35] <ArthurArchnix> haha... nevermind. To get it to close to tray you just click the tray icon. Very clever.
[09:35] <bazhang> hello jetyang
[09:35] <jetyang> hello
[09:35] <jetyang> i am a freshman
[09:35] <anAngel> magnetron: well you replied on my first post right
[09:35] <Heston> anAngel, if you're so inclined, you could try writing your own xorg.conf  to force the resolution
[09:36] <zvacet> jetyang : nevermind
[09:36] <bazhang> jetyang this is ubuntu support channel do you have an ubuntu support question?
[09:36] <nishan_n> !hello
[09:36] <bentob0x> ok, I need to fully erase and scan disk a HD, what are the best tools for this?
[09:36] <godlygeek> Jack3: is there any particular reason why you don't want to use ext3?
[09:36] <Jack3> i duno i want to be cool
[09:36] <Jack3> lol
[09:36] <tobe002> be very cool
[09:36] <bazhang> jack3 cool is a working system :)
[09:36] <tobe002> yeah
[09:36] <tobe002> hao
[09:36] <^root^> bentob0x: fdisk?
[09:37] <anAngel> Heston: is there any good tutorial or xorg.conf template file?
[09:37] <tobe002> fdish
[09:37] <Jack3> i read some articles about xfs and resier being much faster/better
[09:37] <tobe002> who
[09:37] <tobe002> o
[09:37] <bentob0x> even to erase/wipe proprely ^root^?
[09:37] <bazhang> !enter | tobe002
[09:37] <desneedy> I have installed  fcitx in xubuntu, but I can't normally activate and use it.
[09:37] <^root^> bentob0x: yup, its army wiss knife
[09:37] <desneedy> please help
[09:37] <^root^> swiff*
[09:37] <^root^> what the hell, typos
[09:37] <Heston> anAngel, there should be a template in your /etc/ directory, however, if not, check the man page or google
[09:37] <^root^> desneedy: yes?
[09:37] <godlygeek> Jack3: search around for more metrics.  they're much faster at a few types of uncommon operations.
[09:37] <bentob0x> nice, going to have a dig into it, thx ^root^ :)
[09:37] <foraoh> hi does anyone know how to create a different effect for minimizing/restoring windows with compiz?
[09:38] <foraoh> i mean, one effect for minimizing, and a different one for restoring
[09:38] <desneedy> I have installed  fcitx in xubuntu, but I can't normally activate and use it. fcitx is a Chinese input method.
[09:38] <anAngel> Heston: ok thanks
[09:38] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion will help with that foraoh
[09:38] <Kamil> I hear a distorted sound after installing Ubuntu Hardy.
[09:39] <bazhang> desneedy have you tried scim?
[09:39] <Heston> anAngel, if you want, paste your xorg.conf somewhere, and ill see if i can come up with something
[09:39] <ArthurArchnix> So on hardy we apparently got his cool new pulse audio system... where's the gui to control the volume level of the running apps?
[09:39] <Przemek1910> www.sonygsm.nmj.pl
[09:39] <desneedy> no.
[09:39] <desneedy> bazhang: no.l
[09:40] <^root^> desneedy: ahan, sorry, limited knowledges, tried Ubuntu-cd channel...
[09:40] <^root^> ch*
[09:40] <godlygeek> Jack3: a bit dated, but this is a decent benchmark: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388
[09:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu-cn
[09:40] <hooer> hiya
[09:40] <Jack3> eek i think the problem might be my hdd
[09:41] <Jack3> i hear some real nice clicking going on
[09:41] <hooer> can someone please explain this? -> [   47.145048] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[09:41] <anAngel> Heston: ok this is my xorg.conf. Pretty blank i guess. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9418/
[09:41] <ovidiu> Hi everybody
[09:42] <ovidiu> I need some help in LIRC configuration
[09:42] <Heston> anAngel, that's not looking too good
[09:42] <nemesis> how to migre gutsy in hardy please
[09:42] <ovidiu> I configured my remote control using this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=635355
[09:42] <godlygeek> Jack3: here's another good one: http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html
[09:42] <mymines> update to ubuntu 8.04，and "get apt-get update",buthave no ""
[09:42] <mymines> vmware
[09:42] <mymines> server
[09:42] <godlygeek> Jack3: ech, hard drive crashes always suck.
[09:42] <nemesis> thx
[09:42] <bullgard4> hooer: The first is a time-stamp. Then it follows the desire that you should update your 'sd' driver.
[09:43] <lacyc3> re
[09:43] <dubby> hey anyone in hardy is there anyway to know what ports I have open without just port scanning myself?
[09:43] <DistroJockey> ArthurArchnix, you could try    pavucontrol
[09:43] <hooer> yeh the latter was what i was not sure about
[09:43] <ovidiu> the configuration was successful, but the problem is that everytime when I boot ubuntu the DRIVER device changes from /dev/input/event7 to /dev/input/event4 and viceversa
[09:43] <ovidiu> and my remote control is no more detected correctly
[09:43] <godlygeek> mymines: don't believe vmware-server runs on as new a kernel as hardy has yet.
[09:43] <ovidiu> what can I do?
[09:43] <mymines>  update to ubuntu 8.04，and "get apt-get update",but have no "vmware server",why?please help.
[09:44] <hooer> ive seen an article explaining how to get vm-ware server to work on hardy
[09:44] <anAngel> Heston: that's why i am asking ;(
[09:44] <bazhang> mymines see the answer above
[09:44] <godlygeek> mymines: have you considered trying virtualbox instead?
[09:45] <DistroJockey> mymines, package names don't have spaces in their names
[09:45] <fudus4> hj
[09:45] <mymines> VBOX is nice,but i like vmware better
[09:45] <DistroJockey> mymines, may be off track there, sorry if I was
[09:46] <gharz> guys... i've just compiled and linked a c program... how do i run it? the filename is a.out... please help
[09:46] <hooer> i use vmware at work so it's nice to be able to use it :p
[09:46] <Slart> gharz: ./a.out
[09:46] <kane77> gharz, ./a.out
[09:46] <dubby> which is better, vmware server or workstation ? (not including cost) , and my previous question is there a way to know what ports you have open without actually port scanning yourself?
[09:46] <Heston> hanAngel, although this is unlikely to work without proper detection of your hardware, this may be worth a shot ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9420/
[09:46] <gharz> thanks!!!!!!
[09:47] <kane77> I'm lagging :)
[09:47] <hooer> they're both useful (workstation and server)
[09:47] <anAngel> Heston: ok i will try it
[09:47] <anAngel> Heston: thanks
[09:49] <anAngel> Anybody tried these http://intellinuxgraphics.org drivers for intel x3100 on intel g33 chipset on ubuntu 8.04
[09:51] <omg911> how do you search using the command tool apt-get like you can using the gui front end synaptic manager?
[09:51] <martint> can I make ubuntu panel narrower then the whole screen wide (like in KDE)?
[09:52] <fudus4> j
[09:52] <aLeSD> someone know how to substitute emerald to metacity on startup ?
[09:52] <godlygeek> omg911: apt-get search pattern
[09:52] <omg911> i mean search for packages with partial match
[09:52] <omg911> godlygeek: E: Invalid operation search
[09:52] <godlygeek> omg911: oops, i meant:  apt-cache search pattern
[09:53] <omg911> godlygeek: thx that works i think
[09:53] <bullgard4> Nautilus lists a type for every filename it displays. Where can I find a list of the elements of the set of types that are available in this Nautilus column?
[09:53] <godlygeek> omg911: it's a regex search, see  man apt-cache
[09:54] <martint> can I make ubuntu panel narrower then the whole screen wide (like in KDE)?
[09:54] <DistroJockey> bullgard1, maybe   /etc/gnome/defaults.list    ?
[09:55] <hooer> so i have an mdadm raid question..
[09:55] <DistroJockey> bullgard1, may be not what you wanted
[09:55] <zm> i downloaded a software package named gmlive-0.20b3
[09:55] <zm> how to install it in a shell?
[09:56] <zm> gmlive-0.20b3.tar.gz
[09:56] <DistroJockey> zm, did you read the readme?
[09:56] <hooer> i replaced a failed drive in my raid1 array. it's fine but when i went to test it by unplugging the original drive and trying to boot just from the new one it ddint work
[09:56] <hooer> it got to a certain point then dropped me to initfs
[09:57] <zm> yes I did, but it shows nothing
[09:57] <bazhang> martint: right click on panel select properties then look at pixels should do it
[09:57] <zm> the readme is empty
[09:57] <martint> THANKS!
[09:57] <DistroJockey> zm, all good packages should have a decent readme
[09:57] <DistroJockey> zm, any other readme type files?
[09:57] <bazhang> I cant get vmware or vbox to work in Hardy :(
[09:58] <ciro> hi all
 I meant not hight but with, does it still work the same?
[09:58] <Carbonflux> I am using 8.04 does anyone have any idea why I can't get at <IP_ADDRESS> from 8.04 but I can from a windows box after setting my netmask to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:58] <zm> no, but there is a INSTALL file
[09:58] <bazhang> martint: you want to have the retractor feature? or something else in mind
[09:59] <zm> the Installation Instructions
[09:59] <hooer> Carbon, have you set default gateway?
[09:59] <ciro> i wanna create a lancher for choosing if closing or rebooting my computer ... how can i do?
 in KDE I can tell the pane;\taskbar to use only 75% of screen wigth, for example
[09:59] <DistroJockey> zm, well, if you trust it, you could use    ./INSTALL from the directory you extracted to  (assuming INSTALL is the name of the file)
[09:59] <Carbonflux> hooer, its a second router that I just want to get into the website on, I already have a working net on 192.168.0.x
[10:00] <bazhang> martint: width is all I know at this point; just started using gnome again since forever--will google for karma though :)
[10:00] <zm> yes let me try it
[10:00] <Carbonflux> arp can see the other router
[10:01] <zm> zm@zm-laptop:~/gmlive-0.20b3$ ./INSTALL
[10:01] <zm> bash: ./INSTALL: Permission denied
[10:01] <L3D> ok i am running firestarter and have it set to minimize to the sys tray and after a bit it disappears  any ideas?
[10:01] <Carbonflux> but thats it, can't ping it or web-browse to it
[10:01] <zm> it couldn't
 Good though :)
[10:01] <DistroJockey> zm, you may also need to    chmod +x INSTALL     (INSTALL being the file you are trying to run)
[10:02] <Carbonflux> its something about how linux is dealing with subnet masks but I don't know enough to ask the right question
[10:02] <hooer> does the route table shed any info?
[10:02] <Carbonflux> not really
[10:03] <thefish> Hasone, update must be up to about 90% now eh?
[10:03] <Carbonflux> if I set the gateway to the second router I can get at it just fine
[10:03] <hooer> weird
[10:03] <Carbonflux> which is silly really
[10:03] <Carbonflux> ya, its this specific linux box
[10:03] <Carbonflux> all the other computers can get at both routers
[10:04] <zm> and then?
[10:04] <Carbonflux> I was using DHCP
[10:04] <DistroJockey> zm, try the    ./INSTALL   again
[10:04] <Carbonflux> I am confused by whats wrong, it should work
[10:05] <Carbonflux> thanks for thinking about it hooer :)
[10:05] <chmac> ikonia: I just thought, changing nicks to _away, and then back, is no less channel noise than logging on / off
[10:05] <hooer> np... so why do you want a 16 bit subnet mask?
[10:05] <chmac> ikonia: I have #ubuntu on my auto-join now, so every time I fire up xchat I'll create at least 2 messages...
[10:06] <zm> zm@zm-laptop:~/gmlive-0.20b3$ ./INSTALL
[10:06] <zm> ./INSTALL: line 1: Installation：找不到命令
[10:06] <zm> ./INSTALL: line 2: aclocal.m4：找不到命令
[10:06] <zm> ./INSTALL: line 4: 在未预料的“C”附近出现语法错误
[10:06] <zm> ./INSTALL: line 4: `Copyright (C) 1994, 1995, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005,'
[10:06] <FloodBot1> zm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <united> i've downloaded kopete,but still can't run it though i've download it's libraries,why's that?
[10:06] <Carbonflux> hooer, until I set the subnet mask for the local lan to <IP_ADDRESS> I could not get at any 1.1 addys, only 0.1, my WAN mask is still <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:07] <hooer> should route between .0.0 and .1.0
[10:07] <DistroJockey> zm, well, I guess it runs. Can't help further sorry. Don't know the program or the language.
[10:07] <Carbonflux> well, in windows I had to change to subnet mask to get it to use both the 0.1 and 1.1 subnets
[10:07] <end-user> Totem Movie Player question: When using the firefox-plugin, and, say, listening to audio, there is a rewind/fast forward bar at the bottom that I've never seen work, inside the browser. You can pause, so I'm assuming that means it is being cached. Why can't you rewind/fast forward: is this a bug or just only a part of a feature that has yet to be implemented?
[10:07] <zm> it means bash: ./INSTALL: No such file or directory
[10:08] <Chapai> how do i get the lines out of my video its driving me out of my mad
[10:08] <end-user> Chapai: Are you using gnash?
[10:08] <RandomCake> Hi, I can't boot to any OS, the Grub settings appear to be correct, but I get an error saying the partition doesn't exist when I select an OS, anyone any idea what's going on?
[10:08] <hooer> oh i meant use a router, i.e. a hardware one with 2 nics, one for .1.0 one for .0.0, or do it with virtual machine software routers :P
[10:08] <DistroJockey> zm, as I said INSTALL is the thing you want to run, may be named different (remember it's case sensitive)
[10:08] <Chapai> no idea what that is end-user
[10:09] <united> i've downloaded kopete,but still can't run it though i've download it's libraries,why's that?
[10:09] <bazhang> united: downloaded? why not install from repos
[10:09] <hischild> Chapai, please describe the situation. There are a couple dozen situations where you can use video which have different causes.
[10:09] <zm> yes
[10:09] <united> yes,i mean download through synaptic
[10:10] <zm> you may tell me how to install the package
[10:10] <bazhang> united try alt f2 kopete
[10:10] <DistroJockey> zm, also as I said, all good packages have a decent readme type file
[10:10] <Chapai> all my videos (flash, vlc) has lines sorta jittering very noticable when panning
[10:10] <zm> the instruction says type './configure' and then type 'make'
[10:10] <end-user> Chapai: gnash is the free (non-restricted) version of Flash. It is installed in Gutsy by default, but wasn't installed in my Hardy. Anyway, gnash isn't fully perfected yet, and for example, youtube videos had lines in them. You might want to use flash. To check if you are using Gnash, start by just right clicking the video you are trying to watch, and see if it brings up adobe flash dialog or gnash dialog
[10:11] <hischild> zm, if the instruction says so, then do so.
[10:11] <DistroJockey> zm, yes, that is common
[10:11] <zm> but when i finish typing 'make', it says 'no such a common
[10:11] <milos_> can't send files from Nokia N70 to Hardy, anybody? (from pc -> phone is working)
[10:11] <Carbonflux> hooer, this is what I plan on doing http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html but first I need to get past just being able to talk to both routers, which should work but is not
[10:11] <zm> i stopped at step 2
[10:11] <DistroJockey> zm,   sudo apt-get build-essentials
[10:12] <end-user> Chapai: and if you need help getting flash, I can help you do with that too, but first I just want to figure out if gnash is your problem
[10:12] <DistroJockey> zm, do that first then try again
[10:12] <hischild> zm, that's not an error that make throws when configure was run properly. Can you pastebin the output from ./configure?       ( DistroJockey )
[10:12] <CRASH69> have been any update in 804? I ask 'cause since installing I have not get any (for some reason I considerer that odd, lol)
[10:12] <hischild> CRASH69, no it's solid. Don't have any updates either.
[10:12] <bazhang> CRASH69: none so far here
[10:12] <Chapai> its not gnash end-user it happens with every video, the best i can describe is a very low frame rate with videos hischild end-user
[10:12] <Carbonflux> the frustrating part is that I am sure someone around here knows the answer but I am not able to explain the issue properly
[10:13] <roxahris> hey
[10:13] <roxahris> the search feature didn't find a file
[10:13] <roxahris> do I have to set it to recurse subdirectories
[10:13] <roxahris> is there an option for that?
[10:13] <zm> sudo apt-get build-essentials is an error common
[10:13] <bazhang> zm build-essential no 's'
[10:14] <hischild> Chapai, have you tried to use a different video player? like vlc? what gfx card do you have?
[10:14] <end-user> Chapai: Sorry :( if you are already using Flash, then I don't know what that problem is. I had the problem with Gnash, so I thought that might be it.
[10:14] <robbie> xorgconfigure is missing. what package contains it?
[10:14] <DistroJockey> cheers bazhang , sorry zm   typo
[10:14] <zm> yes
[10:15] <zm> nothing
[10:15] <bazhang> DistroJockey: :}
[10:15] <bazhang> Carbonflux: just like in that link?
[10:15] <hooer> i was hoping someone might know the answer to my raid question too :p
[10:15] <Chapai> i have hischild
[10:15] <DistroJockey> bazhang, just tried it here and only get build-dep  as a tab complete for build
[10:16] <hooer> Carbon, that's great but i would do it in a virtual appliance instead of on the host system :p
[10:16] <zm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9425/  this is what after i type './configure' shows
[10:16] <bazhang> zm sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:16] <Carbonflux> bazhang, I just want to be able to ping the <IP_ADDRESS> addy from this machine, its something specific to this machine, the problem is really simple