[01:43] <vadi> Hi. I've added the Gnome 3 ppa (needed to get treeview in nautilus back), and since then Evince has crashed a couple of times on me. Launchpad has rejected both of my reports due to an outdated package: outdated debug symbol package for liblcms2-2: package version 2.5-0ubuntu1~raring1 dbgsym version 2.4-0ubuntu3.1
[01:43] <vadi> However my system is fully updated and no updates are available. What can I do?
[01:56] <RAOF> vadi: Remove the GNOME 3 PPA and see if Evince still crashes; your system is currently in an unsupportable state because you've got (at least) a version of liblcms2-2 that's not in the archive.
[01:58] <vadi> Just remove the PPA and do nothing else? Or uninstall all of the new things? All I'd like is Nautilus with a treeview, because I've used the non-treeview version available in 13.04 for a good month and it unworkable.
[02:01] <RAOF> vadi: As long as you've got your current version of liblcms2-2 installed (and possibly other things), Launchpad isn't going to be able to retrace any of your crashes (that have liblcms2-2 in their process space).
[02:03] <vadi> So what does this mean of the GNOME 3 PPA? It is unstable and unsupported, or? The description does not mention such things, and it encourages reporting issues (which is what I've attempted to do).
[02:05] <RAOF> vadi: It appears to mean that you can't get Launchpad to provide symbolic backtraces if you've got the GNOME 3 PPA enabled.
[02:05] <vadi> Alright. But it also marks my reports as invalid. Should I unset that and mark them as new?
[02:06] <RAOF> Yeah, that'd be about right.
[02:06] <vadi> Alright. Thanks for your answers!
[02:13] <darkxst> RAOF, vadi, we have ddebs on the GNOME3 PPA
[02:13] <darkxst> but you have to add a "main/debug" to apt
[02:14] <RAOF> darkxst: Sounds like you need to get the apport retracers to add that, then?
[02:18] <darkxst> RAOF, we have our own retracer
[02:19] <RAOF> darkxst: So then vadi has some other PPA installed?
[02:21] <darkxst> vadi, do you have a link to the bug?
[02:31] <darkxst> RAOF, the retracer did get the stuck the other day for a few days, so a bunch a reports ended getting invalidated due to outdated packages
[02:31] <RAOF> darkxst: Ah, fair 'nuff.
[02:32] <darkxst> and its not uncommon to have traces that can't be retraced (due to invalid core dumps, I presume)
[02:34] <vadi> I did install the Gnome 3 ppa, not another
[02:34] <vadi> darkxst: link to the bug apport closed? yes, moment
[02:34] <vadi> darkxst: it is still private: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1239883
[02:34] <ubot2> vadi: Error: launchpad bug 1239883 not found
[02:37] <darkxst> vadi, that one failed due to libreoffice PPA not having debug symbols
[02:38] <vadi> I do have libreoffice PPA... had to add it, because LibreOffice kept crashing on .docx documents (Ubuntu 13.04's 4.0 version). It's affecting Evince backtracing?
[02:39] <darkxst> and/or an invalid core dump
[02:46] <vadi> That doesn't really leave me with a solution, and both of my Evince crashes have been rejected by LP. I'm not certain if making them public manually is save (whenever any information that should have been scrubbed was scrubbed).
[02:49] <darkxst> vadi, you can make them public, just make sure the core dump is deleted and there is nothing revealing in the stacktraces
[02:50] <darkxst> vadi, you can also try and get stacktraces locally and then attach them https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[03:45] <vadi> I'll try the latter.
[03:53] <vadi> It doesn't seem to work for me: http://pastebin.com/DKxVjjYH
[03:55] <vadi> I'll try the first method. What file is the core dump? There isn't one with an obvious name.
[04:22] <pitti> Good morning
[06:43] <darkxst> vadi, you need to enable the deb-src lines for the PPA
[06:43] <darkxst> and add main/debug to both lines
[08:02] <Laney> hello!
[08:13] <Laney> darkxst: hmm
[08:13] <Laney> darkxst: bug #1237564 bug #1239886
[08:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1237564 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Regression: some previous keyboard bindings & all newly created custom bindings fail if gnome-screensaver isn't installed" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237564
[08:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1239886 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "regression: hotkeys no longer functional" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239886
[08:14] <Laney> I don't /know/ that the second one is a dupe but it probably will turn out to be
[08:15] <Laney> Wondering if we should resolve this by somehow not relying on g-screensaver from gsd, or use package relationships to make it always there
[08:15] <Laney> It's only a Recommends atm
[08:38] <darkxst> Laney, unity is not using gnome-screensaver anymore?
[08:38] <darkxst> ctl-alt-L is sent to org.gnome.ScreenSaver for Lock
[08:39] <darkxst> I don't see why it would affect any other keybindings though
[08:39] <Laney> it is
[08:39] <Laney> but it can be removed
[08:40] <Laney> the problem is that it's an undeclared dependency of the media keys plugin now
[08:44] <darkxst> Laney, gnome-shell does not use it though
[08:45] <Laney> indeed
[08:47] <darkxst> Laney, could be added as a depend on Unity?
[08:47] <darkxst> although I guess it affects all other session
[08:50] <Laney> sec
[08:51] <Laney> I'll try and rework it to look at names we will definitely have
[10:02] <seb128> hey desktopers
[10:17] <darkxst> Laney it looks for Screensaver since that provides the lock method
[10:18] <Laney> it'll still need to call that one
[10:18] <Laney> but it's not needed for the rest of the media keys
[10:20] <darkxst> it shouldnt affect the rest of the media keys
[10:20] <Laney> what shouldn't?
[10:20] <darkxst> gnome-screensaver being missing
[10:21] <Laney> correct
[10:21] <Laney> that's the current bug
[10:21] <Laney> because we check for org.gnome.ScreenSaver when starting it now
[10:25] <Laney> okay this seems to work
[10:26] <Laney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6239963/
[10:29] <didrocks> Laney: hey, do you have a phone handy?
[10:30] <Laney> didrocks: sure
[10:30] <didrocks> Laney: can you do me a favor? I don't have the time to test latest system settings and we want to land it
[10:30] <didrocks> so latest image (97) + system-settings from ubuntu-unity/daily-build
[10:31] <didrocks> if you can test those and give me a ack or nack, that would be really helpful :)
[10:32] <darkxst> Laney, looks good (not tested here though)
[10:33] <Laney> does xfce use this too?
[10:34] <Laney> didrocks: ok, updating
[10:34] <darkxst> Laney, I have no idea
[10:34] <darkxst> I suspect not though
[10:34] <Laney> oh well, won't get more broken
[10:34] <Laney> they do have gsd
[10:34] <Laney> didn't check if they use it directly though
[10:38] <didrocks> Laney: thanks!
[10:46] <Laney> didrocks: it seems ok
[10:46] <didrocks> Laney: so, good to publish?
[10:46] <Laney> Yeah
[10:46] <didrocks> let's goooo
[10:47] <Laney> It's indefinitely checking for updates but I doubt that is the fault of u-s-s
[10:47] <didrocks> well, the UI is really stupid, so I would say no :)
[10:51] <Mirv> didrocks: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Mir/job/cu2d-mir-saucy-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_mir_0.0.15+13.10.20131014-0ubuntu1.diff + http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Mir/job/cu2d-mir-saucy-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-system-compositor_0.0.1+13.10.20131015-0ubuntu1.diff + http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Platform/job/cu2d-platform-sauc
[10:51] <Mirv> + http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Unity8/job/cu2d-unity8-saucy-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-mir_0.1+13.10.20131015-0ubuntu1.diff
[10:52] <Mirv> packaging acks
[10:53] <didrocks> Mirv: +1
[10:53] <Mirv> thanks
[10:55] <Laney> sil2100: hey
[10:55] <Laney> sil2100: did/are you look at the accountsservice background problem with u-s-s/phone?
[10:57] <sil2100> Laney: yes, working on it in-between stuff - I had to add some debugging info to the UbuntuBackgroundPanel, since setting backgroundFile didn't trigger the change of the greeter background, I'm suspecting that maybe the object path is not entirely correct
[10:57] <sil2100> Laney: so it's all being worked on
[10:57] <Laney> ok
[10:57] <Laney> i'd have looked at it otherwise
[10:58] <Laney> did you check it through dbus on the commandline
[10:58] <Laney> ?
[10:58] <sil2100> Laney: yes, through cmd it works fine
[10:58] <sil2100> I checked everything and everything is fine in code besides the object path, which I still need to check if is generated correctly
[10:58] <sil2100> So I'll keep you up-to-date on that ;)
[11:53] <didrocks> pitti: hey, sorry to bother you, but we are discussing with ogra on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1239815
[11:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1239815 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Text not displayed properly in Chinese" [High,New]
[11:53] <didrocks> we have font-droid installed on the device
[11:53] <didrocks> 13:51:33      ogra_ | we have language-pack-zh-hans and language-pack-zh-hans-base as well as the gnome equivalents for both
[11:53] <didrocks> as well
[11:54] <didrocks> do you have any idea? (sorry for bothering you with non QA stuff)
[11:57] <pitti> didrocks: hm, it could just be a broken .po file (step: check the .po file in desktop whether it displays properly)
[11:57] <pitti> didrocks: or a broken fontconfig which assigns the wrong font to these glyphs (I know almost nothing about that, though)
[11:57] <didrocks> pitti: ok, ogra is on another hint as well
[11:57] <pitti> didrocks: or missing fonts
[11:58] <didrocks> thanks pitti!
[11:58]  * didrocks hugs pitti
[11:59] <pitti> didrocks: do we have ttf-wqy-microhei?
[11:59] <pitti> (sorry, phone not currently conneted)
[12:00] <didrocks> pitti: no, installing and testing
[12:00] <pitti> last time I checked that was our preferred CJK font
[12:01]  * didrocks needs to reboot after blaming the OOM killer
[12:02] <pitti> didrocks: do you know which po file these come from? ubuntu-system-settings?
[12:02] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, ubuntu-system-settings
[12:02] <didrocks> (not the right one, trying another one)
[12:03] <pitti> po/zh.po looks alright here on desktop
[12:03] <jibel> pitti, it is reported against u-s-s because I didn't really find a good target, but it affects all the UI including indicators and dash
[12:03] <didrocks> yeah, I think a missing langpack
[12:03] <didrocks> ok, not ttf-wqy-zenhei either
[12:04] <didrocks> fonts-arphic-ukai is the one we need :)
[12:04] <pitti> didrocks: no, missing langpack would just mean that the strings were in English
[12:05] <pitti> didrocks: ah, we used to have fonts-arphic-ukai in the past, but I thought we replaced it with microhei as that was smaller and still good
[12:05] <pitti> we don't have it on desktop, anywy
[12:05] <didrocks> pitti: after installing that one, the squares are replaced
[12:05] <didrocks> with glyphs
[12:06] <lenios> just asking but, that's only chinese. What about japanese or korean?
[12:06] <didrocks> jibel: can you try apt-get install fonts-arphic-ukai ?
[12:06] <pitti> so on the phone we have dejavu-{core,extra}, droid, and freefont-ttf
[12:06] <pitti> that's not much indeed
[12:07] <didrocks> lenios: it seems that there are some kanji, then, I guess searching on the web will help more than I can do
[12:07] <didrocks> jibel: weird, when selecting it, I get "Français suisse" selected
[12:07] <jibel> didrocks, yes, that's what I'm reporting now
[12:07] <pitti> yep, less zh_CN.po in the phone terminal shows the same
[12:07] <didrocks> Laney: FYI ^
[12:08] <jibel> didrocks, I confirm the fix for chinese and the finish reporting the 'français suisse' bug
[12:08] <Laney> yes
[12:08] <Laney> it's already reported
[12:09] <didrocks> Laney: hum, getting fixed?
[12:09] <didrocks> Laney: like, I think today will be the final system settings for V1, seems like a big bug :)
[12:09] <jibel> it *is* a big bug
[12:10] <Laney> alright alright, no need to big it up
[12:10] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1234407
[12:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1234407 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "wrong language displayed after changing the setting" [High,Confirmed]
[12:10] <Laney> oh no
[12:10] <Laney> not that one
[12:10] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1239593
[12:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1239593 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "LANGUAGE= needs more detailed settings on Ubuntu Touch" [Low,Confirmed]
[12:11] <pitti> didrocks: still curious, I wonder which font is being used on the desktop for those
[12:11] <pitti> didrocks: fonts-arphic-ukai is huge, do we have any limit at all on the phone/
[12:11] <pitti> ?
[12:12] <didrocks> Laney: hum, low, is it under work? (and here, it only picks français suisse when selecting the chinese one)
[12:15] <Laney> try and review the branch on the first bug
[12:15] <Laney> attente is the one working on the language panel mainly
[12:18] <didrocks> Laney: quite a large review, we aren't supposed to fix/review upstream's ;)
[12:19] <didrocks> Laney: just give us an ETA, I think this one will be on the bugs we track
[12:19] <Laney> I don't have an ETA, I'm not tracking or working on all of the bugs personally
[12:19] <Laney> Ask attente if he plans to do it otherwise I will see, but I don't know that panel at all
[12:20] <jibel> didrocks, with the font I can see chinese characters on the language list but cannot select the language, it always returns to english
[12:21] <didrocks> jibel: it return to suisse french for me
[12:21] <didrocks> Laney: I think I'll have to ask seb128 tomorrow then
[12:21] <Laney> Not trying to dodge it, but I'm just saying I can't give you an ETA on the fix since I don't know what it is
[12:22] <didrocks> no worry
[12:22] <Laney> I think returning to the previous language is the first one I listed
[12:22] <didrocks> yeah, they seem mixed, but they aren't
[12:22] <didrocks> attente: one you are around ^
[12:24] <lenios> do you really need fonts-arphic-ukai do display chinese? i only have ttf-wqy-microhei on my desktop and i can display CJK correctly
[12:24] <lenios> to*
[12:25] <didrocks> lenios: we are talking about phone, that's what we just tested
[12:25] <lenios> i know
[12:26] <lenios> but according to package description and what i have on my desktop, i think ttf-wqy-microhei should be enough for phone
[12:26] <lenios> if it's not working correctly, that's probably misconfiguration and not a missing font
[12:27] <didrocks> lenios: possibly, it was the first one I tried without any success. Any debugging/help appreciated :)
[12:34] <jibel> didrocks, there is definitely something wrong, 'search' on the top left is in chinese, categories of the scopes and u-s-s are in french and the rest in english
[12:36] <Laney> attente's branch makes things nicer for me on my desktop
[12:37] <Laney> it sets german to de_DE instead of de_LI(?)
[12:37] <Laney> and displays the right language after I change it
[12:41] <Laney> let me try building it for armhf and see what happens
[12:41] <Laney> jibel: There's still a problem that it's not fully effective until you restart
[12:43] <Laney> grr, how long do I have to charge the nexus 7 for before it'll stay on?
[12:43] <jibel> Laney, yes, I did restart after I selected French but 'search' is still in Chinese
[12:48] <Laney> weird
[12:48] <Laney> ok, building with the branch for armhf now
[12:48] <Laney> will check it after lunch
[13:13] <desrt> good morning ubuntu people!!
[13:13] <desrt> ara: hello!
[13:14] <ara> desrt, good morning
[13:14] <desrt> today we are in (very much not) sunny montreal
[13:20] <attente> jibel, didrocks, the main issue right now is the session needs restarting after the language is set
[13:46] <didrocks> attente: there is no feedback in the ui that it changed, it's changing back to the previous setting
[13:46] <didrocks> hey desrt!
[13:48] <desrt> didrocks: hi :)
[13:50] <attente> didrocks, oh, can you try this branch instead? https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1234407
[13:51] <didrocks> attente: not today, I think you need to rely on other upstreams :)
[13:51] <attente> didrocks, heh ok :)
[13:58] <Laney> attente: I think it fixes both bugs
[13:58] <Laney> attente: Just double checking
[13:58] <Laney> then will approve
[13:59] <Laney> you didn't use the m_foo convention for private member variables though!
[14:00] <attente> Laney, the locale number formats bug? i don't think it fixes that
[14:01] <Laney> no
[14:01] <Laney> the one where you get LANGUAGE=de instead of de_DE
[14:01] <attente> oh, ok
[14:01] <attente> i can do the m_foo thing in another merge
[14:01] <Laney> sure
[14:02] <Laney> haha
[14:02] <Laney> it's funny seeing system messages in chinese
[14:04] <Laney> didrocks: if we get this merged will you be able to release / get it in the image today?
[14:04] <didrocks> Laney: yeah (or tomorrow at worst)
[14:04] <Laney> oh
[14:04] <Laney> thought you said today was the end of days
[14:06] <Laney> So we'll get that one in and then we can see what's left over
[14:06] <Laney> certainly LC_* and the rebooting one are still there
[14:11] <Laney> attente: you in montreal?
[14:11] <Laney> any good gossip?
[14:11] <attente> word on the street is that the bagels are fantastic :)
[14:13] <Laney> that's the kind of juicy news i was after
[14:13]  * Laney drools
[14:14] <didrocks> Laney: I meant, in archive today
[14:14] <didrocks> Laney: so that it's in for tomorrow morning image kick
[14:14] <Laney> fair enough
[14:15] <Laney> I want to fix this wifi scrolling bug too
[14:17] <kenvandine> Laney, give me a shout if you need a review
[14:18] <Laney> kenvandine: wilco
[14:19] <kenvandine> didrocks, shouldn't we be updating the saucy stacks to use 13.10 branches?
[14:20] <didrocks> kenvandine: not yet, we'll do that when we release
[14:21] <kenvandine> i'm starting to get some webcred branches that don't really need to end up in 13.10, but worry about getting them mixed up in trunk before other potential fixes show up
[14:57] <attente> Laney, can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/drop-git_padding_value/+merge/191217?
[14:58] <attente> i think seb128 forgot to do the actual dropping of the patch
[14:58] <Laney> attente: you don't explain why at any point
[14:59] <Laney> Also use 'dch' and put something in debian/changelog please
[14:59] <Laney> Also this won't be in saucy
[15:00] <attente> Laney, this is just to amend seb's commit
[15:00] <attente> the drop didn't seem to happen
[15:00] <Laney> oh I don't know what that is
[15:01] <Laney> ah
[15:01] <attente> oh. the quilt patches don't apply since
[15:01] <attente> the patch was a git patch
[15:01] <attente> i think it was just a small oversight
[15:01] <Laney> I get it, thanks
[15:01] <Laney> missed that detail
[15:19] <Laney> kenvandine: MPed, you should get mail soon
[15:26] <kenvandine> Laney, ok
[15:26] <Laney> ty
[15:33] <Laney> Oh, meeting time!
[15:33] <qengho> YAY
[15:33] <jibel> Laney, wrt. bug 1240058 you'll note the nice value of LANGUAGE=fr_FR:zh_CN:en :)
[15:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1240058 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "UI uses chinese, french and english simultaneously" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240058
[15:34] <Laney> qengho, Sweetshark, desrt, larsu, attente, tkamppeter, mlankhorst, Laney: MEETING!
[15:34] <desrt> i sure hope seb128 is safe
[15:34] <qengho> What's up with seb?  Travelling?
[15:34] <Laney> ya
[15:34] <desrt> in a plane
[15:35] <desrt> on his way to montreal
[15:35] <Laney> all the cool kids are going to canada
[15:35] <qengho> So, Canada will finally have cool people?
[15:35] <Laney> as opposed to cold ones
[15:35] <qengho> Okay, I'm first?
[15:35] <Laney> let's go
[15:35] <Laney> qengho: !
[15:36] <qengho> I'll need help with one of my bugs.  The second.  My list:
[15:36] <qengho> - c-b: Debugging bug 1232575.  Narrowed down to small patch. Another day or so to fix.
[15:36] <qengho> - c-b: Debugging bug 1225215.  Still a mystery.
[15:36] <qengho> - then, will release.
[15:36] <qengho> - worked Monday (a holiday), and will exchange for (probably) Friday.
[15:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1232575 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chrome.extension not available when called from extension scripts in Chromium but works on Chrome" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232575
[15:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1225215 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium doesn't shut down. Next run gets "Your profile could not be opened"." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1225215
[15:36] <qengho> Er, sorry, one didn't paste, the problematic one.  Sorry.
[15:37] <qengho> This one!  Bug 1235490
[15:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1235490 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chrome/chromium tearing and display corruption" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235490
[15:38] <qengho> No idea the cause.
[15:38] <Laney> Maybe mlankhorst or someone can help you debug issues
[15:38] <Laney> Don't think he's here though
[15:38] <qengho> I'll look for him.  Thanks.
[15:39] <Laney> Haven't seen anything like that personally, thankfully
[15:39] <qengho> That's all for me.
[15:39]  * Laney is nvidia all over
[15:39] <Laney> thanks
[15:39] <Laney> Sweetshark: howdy
[15:39] <desrt> uh oh
[15:39] <Laney> naughty
[15:39] <desrt> tsk tsk tsk
[15:40] <Laney> ok, moving on ...
[15:40] <Laney> desrt: go, and please give us some better montreal gossip than attente did earlier :P
[15:40] <Laney> bagel news
[15:40] <desrt> oh man
[15:40] <desrt> bagels have been coming out of our ears
[15:40]  * larsu could go for bagels again
[15:40] <desrt> they are _so_ delicious when you get them fresh out of the oven
[15:40] <desrt> you have no idea
[15:41] <desrt> larsu has had morning bagels for 3 days straight...
[15:41] <desrt> anyway....
[15:41] <desrt> the summit was pretty good.  we're starting to land a lot of code that has been in the review stages forever
[15:41] <Sweetshark> eh, /me is late
[15:41] <desrt> the search algorithm stuff i was working on last week landed
[15:41] <attente> montreal bagels are worthy as legitimate gossip :P
[15:41] <desrt> which means that the desktop file stuff (which uses it) can land this week
[15:41] <desrt> gnotification will probably also land this week
[15:41] <desrt> gtk dynamic accel changing (the start of action descriptions work started long ago) landed today
[15:42] <desrt> gsubprocess will probably come in the next week or so as well
[15:42] <desrt> so really lots of major features got past the 'contentious' stage of reviews, more or less
[15:42] <desrt> working right now on a good general pattern for dealing with these thread safety issues that we've been seeing with things like gsettings
[15:43] <desrt> since i'll also want to use the same pattern in the new GAppInfoMonitor code (since it's similar: you can have several objects, each of which is driven by a common backend in a worker thread, but has to dispatch the signal on each object into the correct target thread)
[15:43] <desrt> i hope to get that sorted today.  that's about all.
[15:43] <Laney> ooh, looks like a lot of fun stuff for next cycle then
[15:44] <Laney> thanks desrt
[15:44] <Laney> I see a Sweetshark
[15:44] <Sweetshark> - adjusting the bibisect scripting to runnable instdir http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bibisect http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-feature-instdir-pushed-to-master-td4073602.html
[15:44] <Sweetshark> - kicked off/boosted various upstream EasyHacks: fdo#7014, fdo#70393, fdo#70373, fdo#70357, fdo#70448, fdo#70422, fdo#66750
[15:44] <Sweetshark> - various clean up tasks
[15:44] <Sweetshark> - Hackfest Freiburg preparations https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Freiburg2013
[15:44] <Sweetshark> - started merging ubuntu-saucy-4-1 with debian-experimental-4-2 for t-series
[15:44] <Sweetshark> EOF
[15:44] <Laney> thanks
[15:44] <Laney> how's LO looking for saucy?
[15:45] <Sweetshark> Laney: all set
[15:45] <Laney> will we be upgrading off the rc or doesn't it matter?
[15:45] <Sweetshark> Laney: rc3 = final in everything but the name
[15:45]  * Laney nods
[15:45] <Laney> thanks
[15:46] <Laney> larsu: here?
[15:46] <larsu> yep
[15:46] <Sweetshark> Laney: so, rather do an SRU/update to the next release (4.1.3)
[15:46] <larsu> - support per-profile indicator positions for unity7 and 8 (neither is merged)
[15:46] <larsu> - show source icons again in indicator-messages
[15:46] <larsu> - give sound menu in the greeter a proper size
[15:46] <larsu> - sound-menu: show only running players on the phone
[15:46] <larsu> - remove broken volume notification on the phone (notify-osd doesn't do sync notifications)
[15:46] <larsu> - system-settings: no startup animations for sliders in the battery and location panel
[15:46] <larsu> and I was at montreal summit as well
[15:46] <larsu> but I guess desrt gave a good overview of that already
[15:47] <desrt> larsu: what?  not more discussion about bagels?
[15:47] <desrt> oh wait.  we forgot about the smoked meat!
[15:47] <larsu> desrt: it's you who brings up the bagels all the time
[15:47] <larsu> smoked meat! Is it lunch time yet?!
[15:47] <Laney> did the notification fix get released?
[15:48] <larsu> don't know
[15:48] <desrt> the indicator-messages thing?
[15:48] <Laney> haha
[15:48] <larsu> let me check
[15:48] <larsu> you mean the sound notifications on the phone, right?
[15:48] <Laney> yeah
[15:48] <Laney> Looks like I don't have it here
[15:48] <Laney> so we're good on that one
[15:49] <larsu> looks like it was, yes
[15:49] <Laney> great
[15:49] <Laney> thanks :-)
[15:49] <Laney> attente: your turn
[15:49] <attente> non-latin keyboard shortcuts bug
[15:49] <attente> language settings: correctly obtain available locales
[15:49] <attente> display language update bugs
[15:49] <attente> in-progress: ctrl+shift input sources switching bug (#1218322)
[15:49] <attente> (eof)
[15:49] <Laney> oh great, was going to ask you about that one
[15:50] <Laney> bug #1240058 might interest you
[15:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1240058 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "UI uses chinese, french and english simultaneously" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240058
[15:50] <attente> Laney, is that just a matter of not enough translation done?
[15:50] <attente> oh.
[15:50] <Laney> Well, it seems that selected languages are preprended to $LANGUAGES
[15:50] <attente> maybe not
[15:50] <attente> right
[15:50] <Laney> instead of replacing the top one
[15:51] <attente> ok
[15:51] <Laney> I guess that's what AS does, but it might not be the right thing
[15:51] <Laney> thanks
[15:51] <Laney> tkamppeter: hey
[15:52] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: More fixes, especially use Poppler as PDF->PostScript filter for Brother and Konica Minolta PostScript printers. Released 1.0.40 and packaged this for Saucy.
[15:52] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:53] <Laney> thanks
[15:53] <jasoncwarner_> morning all.
[15:53] <Laney> hey jasoncwarner_
[15:53] <Laney> mlankhorst: you here?
[15:53] <Laney> Think he said he wouldn't be, so me:
[15:53] <Laney> • Mainly bug fixing for release
[15:53] <Laney> • Looked at g-s-d bugs
[15:53] <Laney> ∘ Fixed media key handling to not rely on gnome-screensaver (being tested)
[15:53] <Laney> ∘ Nasty upower regression meaning properties via libupower-glib were broken which crippled lid close and broke god knows what else (suspecting a unity multi monitor bug was down to this too)
[15:53] <Laney> • Updated farstream-0.2 for bugfixes
[15:53] <Laney> • Bug fixes in apturl, sessioninstaller
[15:53] <Laney> • gmime FTBFS fix (prompted by arm64)
[15:53] <Laney> • System-settings:
[15:53] <Laney> ∘ Reviews
[15:53] <Laney> ∘ Scrolling in wifi panel
[15:53] <Laney> ∘ Buglet with translations in sound panel
[15:53] <Laney> ∘ URI Handler: switching in existing instance
[15:54] <Laney> ∘ Alignment in timedate panel
[15:54] <Laney> • Patch piloted
[15:54] <Laney> \0
[15:54] <Laney> Going to see about making the wi-fi panel use more standard components now
[15:54] <Laney> so it looks a bit less weird
[15:54] <Laney> Anyone got anything else?
[15:55] <Laney> righto, thanks all
[15:55] <Laney> happy saucy!
[15:57] <mlankhorst> Laney: yeah i put down soe work items before :P
[15:57] <mlankhorst> 21:31 < mlankhorst> jasoncwarner_: oh I won't be here tomorrow, so for seb128's meeting: my action points: fixing xorg package-status debian versions. kernel fixes for radeon lock inversion. opened a
[15:57] <mlankhorst>                     conversation with android devs about fences/syncpoints. mesa 9.1.7 verification and mesa 9.2.1 upload.
[15:57] <mlankhorst> 21:31 < mlankhorst> oh and fixed a particularly nasty mir bug that was a blocker for testing nested mir
[15:57] <mlankhorst> 21:31 < mlankhorst> which took some time to find :P
[15:57] <Laney> ta
[15:58] <bschaefer> Hello, is anyone having issues with the hardware volume buttons not working? (-/+ and mute)?
[15:58] <bschaefer> on 13.10, possibly from the latest release from g-s-d?
[15:59] <Laney> Yeah, there are bugs
[15:59] <Laney> What DE are you using?
[16:00] <bschaefer> unity
[16:00] <Laney> There's one I was looking at earlier ...
[16:00] <Laney> do you have gnome-screensaver installed?
[16:00] <bschaefer> i do not, i was testing out a new light-locker package
[16:01] <Laney> ok
[16:01] <bschaefer> that would explain that problem :)
[16:01] <Laney> please try g-s-d from ppa:laney/experimental
[16:01] <bschaefer> cool, let me try it out
[16:01] <Laney> it's supposed to remove that dependency
[16:01] <Laney> bug #1236564
[16:02] <Laney> lies
[16:02] <Laney> bug #1237564
[16:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1237564 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Regression: some previous keyboard bindings & all newly created custom bindings fail if gnome-screensaver isn't installed" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237564
[16:02] <bschaefer> Laney, awesome thanks you!
[16:02]  * bschaefer goes to test ppa
[16:03] <Laney> I just want someone to tell me it works then I'll upload to saucy
[16:03] <Laney> probably for SRU at this point
[16:04] <bschaefer> yeah, hopefully gnome-screensaver isn't a common package removed until that patch goes through :)
[16:06] <bschaefer> Laney, \o/, works :)
[16:06] <bschaefer> thanks!
[16:06]  * bschaefer makes comment on bug
[16:06] <Laney> great, cheers
[16:12] <kenvandine> Laney, approved
[16:12] <Laney> messy buckets
[16:26] <jasoncwarner_> hey didrocks , around?
[16:43] <alan_g> cyphermox or stgraber - yesterday seb128 referred me to you about a problem I have on my desktop PC. (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6241293/) Short version: I got my system in a state where I had to switch IP6 to Local to get dhcp working. can you help?
[16:54] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: was in a HO, here
[16:55] <jasoncwarner_> hey didrocks :) hey, I'm trying to update and I'm getting a 'image failed to download' or something close to that. I'm getting it always today and I've always seen it hit 100% downloaded. Know anything about that? Also, probably would be a good thing to change the 'install and restart' button to something else in that case. Maybe 'try again' and/or 'cancel'?
[16:56] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: also, wasn't sure of the reason for getting that. I asked a few others and they said they've never seen it. I guess I'm one of the lucky few ;)
[16:56] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: did you update everyday?
[16:56] <didrocks> or did you wait for a few days?
[16:56] <jasoncwarner_> I have been. this is image 96
[16:56] <jasoncwarner_> I think I was on 92 maybe? or 94?
[16:57] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: if the image is too big, the service can't download a new image
[16:57] <jasoncwarner_> the image is 96m, if I recall
[16:57] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: barry has a fix for that, but if you are blocked, the only way for you now is to reflash
[16:58] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: the daemon is still telling that installed is ready and can be apply, that's why the ui is showing those buttons instead of retry
[16:58] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: gah, ok. do you happen to know the size limit (just for my own knowledge)
[16:58] <didrocks> I think barry fixed that one as well
[16:58] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: it was downloading in memory, so whatever memory you still have free on the phone :)
[16:58] <didrocks> (now it will be on disk)
[16:59] <jasoncwarner_> ok, thanks didrocks. I guess I'm reflashing today then ;)
[16:59] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: yeah, no other choise, sorry ;)
[16:59] <didrocks> choice*
[17:00] <jasoncwarner_> thanks, didrocks will flash in a few!
[17:03] <didrocks> yw!
[17:09] <jasoncwarner_> hey didrocks , just talked to pat and steve and they pointed me to this bug which was closed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1232273
[17:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1232273 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Updates will not complete if the system-image service times out" [High,Fix released]
[17:10] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: it's a different one where barry had to track it
[17:10] <didrocks> (an older one)
[17:13] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/+bug/1233521
[17:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1233521 in system-image (Ubuntu Saucy) "system-image cannot recover from a partial download without rebooting" [High,Triaged]
[17:13] <jasoncwarner_> thanks didrocks
[17:13] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: and that one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/+bug/1236818
[17:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1236818 in system-image (Ubuntu) "No update downloaded" [High,Triaged]
[17:14] <didrocks> (not fixed though)
[17:14] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: basically barry disabled the persistence mode, which is what agreed between the ui and service
[17:14] <didrocks> hence you can see this "redownload, restart, no pause…"
[17:15]  * didrocks really needs to go now :)
[17:15] <jasoncwarner_> later didrocks !
[17:45] <jasoncwarner_> hey larsu and charles, any luck on that indicator-datetime-service bug?
[17:49] <larsu> jasoncwarner_: I'm just getting around to that
[17:49] <larsu> charles: have you looked into that yet?
[17:50] <jasoncwarner_> thanks, larsu, can you guys jump on that today? release is only a few days away now!
[17:50] <larsu> jasoncwarner_: yes.
[17:52] <jasoncwarner_> thanks larsu
[17:54] <qengho> mlankhorst: I heard you might be able to give me a pointer on how to debug something. https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235490
[17:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1235490 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chrome/chromium tearing and display corruption" [Undecided,In progress]
[18:10] <Sarvatt> qengho: that should be fixed as of x-x-v-intel 2:2.99.904-0ubuntu1
[18:11] <qengho> Sarvatt: Oh?  The bug report is a few days stale. I'll check it out.
[18:11] <qengho> Sarvatt: thanks
[18:12] <Sarvatt> yeah that was a highly annoying problem with SNA on one generation of intel GPUs that took months to get fixed but its definitely fixed now :)
[18:26] <qengho> robru: If you have  xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.904-0ubuntu1  installed, can you reproduce the Chromium tearing now?
[18:26] <robru> qengho, gimme a sec
[18:26] <qengho> robru: no hurry.
[18:26] <qengho> robru: comment at #1235490.
[18:27] <robru> qengho, bug #1235490
[18:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1235490 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chrome/chromium tearing and display corruption" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235490
[18:27] <robru> there it is ;-)
[18:28] <robru> qengho, ugh, 500 upgraded packages since friday ;-)
[18:28] <qengho> You can't blame be for that!
[18:29] <robru> qengho, IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!
[21:30] <abner86> hello
[21:32] <RAOF> qHello.