[07:31] <AlexC_> I'm having problems with uninstalling Apache. I use to have Apache setup on my main PC, but I now have set up a small webserver that is on my network. I have tried removing the packages that I installing on my MAin PC, but when ever I access my web server via my main ip (like 86.121.***.***) it says 404. This is because it's still trying to access the files on my MAIN PC instea of my other small pc I set up - which I have re
[07:31] <AlexC_> moed apache from
[07:32] <Ha1> ProN00b, can you suggest what to do now?
[07:32] <Subhuman> !seveas
[07:32] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:32] <erUSUL> AlexC_: so 'sudo apt-get remove --purge apache*' did not work?
[07:32] <ProN00b> Ha1, i asked something: "Ha1, well, did you find the place where you can switch keyboard layouts ? which one do you currently use ?"
[07:32] <AlexC_> erUSUL: yet to try it, hold on
[07:32] <Ha1> I answered
[07:32] <humbolto> how can I allow certain users (in a certain group) to run users-admin hence administer the users of the system?
[07:33] <Ha1> ProN00b, I answered. With U.S. English International with Dead keys
[07:33] <erUSUL> AlexC_: ?? how did you removed apache then?
[07:33] <Ashei> what happened?
[07:33] <AlexC_> erUSUL: sudo apt-get remove apache2 [other packages here]
[07:33] <LjL> !traffic
[07:33] <ProN00b> Ha1, is your keyboard us english ?
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[07:33] <erUSUL> humbolto: that's why the admin group exist
[07:33] <AlexC_> erUSUL: I'm just doing a sudo apt-get autoremove now
[07:34] <daxxar> How do I restore a config from a package? :-)
[07:34] <erUSUL> daxxar: define restore
[07:34] <Seveas> daxxar, prune it and reinstall it
[07:34] <daxxar> "revert to base"
[07:34] <humbolto> erUSUL: but the admin group is allowed to do other things as well, which I don't want these users to be able to do! I need a more finegrade config.
[07:35] <smultron> oh, one more question before i go
[07:35] <Ha1> ProN0b, any ideas what now?
[07:35] <smultron> is it normal to have ubuntu boot times be around 2 whole minutes?
[07:35] <kelsin> humbolto: use visudo to edit the sudoers file, man sudoers for more information on the file, you can allow a group to run a certain command etc
[07:35] <Seveas> smultron, depends on what you installed
[07:35] <zoexii> hello, can anyone tell me if there is a bittorrent client that works from commandline?
[07:36] <daxxar> Never,ind, I wanted to revert my sudoers file, but I found the default entries on another box. :-)
[07:36] <smultron> fresh install
[07:36] <humbolto> kelsin: I know how to do that!
[07:36] <Ha1> ProN00b, any ideas what now [Sorry, not being annoying, Ive just gotten reprimnded about not prefixing all with names before]
[07:36] <Seveas> zoexii, man btlaunchmanycurses
[07:36] <humbolto> kelsin: but that does not do the trick!
[07:36] <erUSUL> humbolto: man sudoers
[07:36] <kelsin> humbolto: how not?
[07:36] <smultron> Seveas, fresh install
[07:36] <zoexii> Seveas, thanks, will try
[07:36] <Seveas> smultron, sounds a bit long...
[07:37] <smultron> yeah, plus there's no graphical "loading" animation... makes it seem even longer... just a blank screen
[07:37] <zoexii> Seveas, doesn't work, maybe I need to install a package?
[07:37] <smultron> with a flickering consol underscore _
[07:37] <humbolto> kelsin: first of all, users-admin is not started with gksu by default!
[07:37] <Seveas> !find btlaunchmanycurses
[07:37] <Ha1> I have a bit of an issue. Ever since I got Ubuntu, the only way to generate the  and  was to DOUBLE tap the pertinent key [with/out shift] . If I tap it once, the next key I press comes out, if applicable, with an accent character.  + [x]  gives umlauts (), +[x]  gives (). This isnt an issue, and is kinda cool as it lets me do mlauts. However, the  and  marks dont work when programming Python, which Iam trying to
[07:38] <ProN00b> Ha1, just try more keyboard layouts, there are quite some to choose from, also try googling your keyboards product name in combination with linux or something in the worst case you might need to modify some keyboard layout and make a new one that fits your keyboard, but thats unlikely
[07:38] <ubotu> Package/file btlaunchmanycurses does not exist in edgy
[07:38] <Marupa> hey everyone, I've got a little bug that's bugging me.  I'm trying to run amarok (it was working last night, but crashed) and ps aux | grepping it found the process, but I'm not seeing it at all on my X session.  Any clues?
[07:38] <kelsin> humbolto: then add a new menu entry instead that does, if you're using gnome there are a lot of docs on the gnome sites about administrating menus
[07:38] <humbolto> kelsin: I am not a complete retard. I can edit my menus.
[07:39] <mrcucumber> I'm reading over Scott Raymon's article about refactoring to rest and he says of the reduction in actions: "A big part of that redundancy was in having an Admin module, which quickly proved unnecessary. Instead, I just use before_filters to protect certain actions." but doesn't that mean that he shows different views based on the status of the user, which whould inhbiit caching
[07:39] <voicu> hi, how do i format a diskette?
[07:39] <humbolto> kelsin: but how is users-admin doing the auth magic if it is not using gksu, this is the question to be asked.
[07:39] <mrcucumber> lol, wrong room
[07:40] <Marupa> also, what's that terminal mp3 player?
[07:40] <lojikal> mplayer
[07:41] <Marupa> does it play any/all MP3s from a directory at random?
[07:41] <zybrid> What is the best working way for me to install ati drivers for beryl? freshinstall of 6.10 and X1900XTX
[07:41] <tuskernini> Question: how do i clean the trash via command line?
[07:41] <zybrid> when i type radeon in xorg.conf, X hangs
[07:41] <humbolto> kelsin: If I run the app logged in as a user in the users-admin group, which I created and set to ALL=(ALL) ALL for testing in the sudoers file, I get: The configuration could not be loaded. You are not allowed to access the system configuration
[07:41] <lojikal> no, try mp3123
[07:41] <Marupa> thank you, lojikal .
[07:42] <torbesh> how can i enable built-in card reader on my laptop (ubuntu 6.10)?
[07:42] <kelsin> humbolto: you'd have to ask someone else, I have no experience with ubuntu's admin menu settings
[07:42] <Marupa> lojikal, it's complaining that the argument list is too long.
[07:42] <tuskernini> QUESTION: How do I clear trash (command line)?
[07:43] <ProN00b> torbesh, if it doesn't work by default its likely that its not supported, try contacting your hardware supplier for drivers for linux ^___^
[07:43] <phisikus> Hi
[07:43] <Marupa> go to ~/.Trash and rm the files, tuskernini./
[07:43] <pbureau> tuskernini,  hang in there someone will answer stop repeating yourself
[07:44] <torbesh> how can i enable built-in card reader on my laptop (ubuntu 6.10)?
[07:44] <tuskernini> pbureau, i know when i help someone... i do not no up and look what comments i have missed...
[07:44] <Marupa> torbesh:  ProN00b is right.
[07:44] <AlexC_> Hey,
[07:44] <tuskernini> Marupa, thank you... was thinking there is a command for that
[07:44] <torbesh> benq joybook has no drivers or it
[07:44] <torbesh> for it
[07:44] <Marupa> Welcome, tuskernini.
[07:45] <AlexC_> I'm trying to set up Ubuntu to use a static IP instead of DHCP, but every time I restart the networking via "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says "SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument Failed to bring up eth0."  why is this?
[07:45] <Hal_Horn> I have a bit of an issue. Ever since I got Ubuntu, the only way to generate the  and  was to DOUBLE tap the pertainant key [with/out shift] . If I tap it once, the next key I press comes out, if applicable, with an accent character.  + [x]  gives umlauts (), +[x]  gives (). This isnt an issue, and is kinda cool as it lets me do mlauts. However, the  and  marks dont work when programming Python, which Iam tryin
[07:45] <Marupa> bah.  this is ticking me off.  x.x  I go crazy without MP3s  :D  I either need some sort of terminal MP3 player or get amarok back working again.
[07:46] <|Jason8|> Hal_Horn, when you install Ubuntu, it asks you what kind of keyboard you have.  You sure you picked the right one?
[07:46] <Marupa> was about to say that, |Jason8|.  You beat me to it.
[07:46] <ProN00b> comeon, Hal_Horn... don't repeat yourself that fast...
[07:46] <cpk1> Marupa: mpd?
[07:46] <Baloogan> how can I get the copy file dialogs to show bandwidth?
[07:46] <|Jason8|> Marupa, try xmms for an MP3 program.  or do you need a terminal player?
[07:46] <Baloogan> like how fast the transfer is going?
[07:46] <juano> what is the networking daemon short in ubuntu? to restart it from console
[07:47] <Marupa> xmms has a weird bug.  it's sound output is extremely quiet.
[07:47] <|Jason8|> Oh.
[07:47] <AlexC_> Marupa: I use Audacious - I love it,
[07:47] <zybrid> What is best? Ati, Radeon or fglrx?
[07:47] <|Jason8|> Marupa, turn down your system sound by like 3%.  it'll go full blast then
[07:47] <Marupa> otherwise I'd use it.
[07:47] <cpk1> Marupa: mpd is command line, also beep media player is xmms but newer basically
[07:47] <Marupa> I'll try that.
[07:47] <|Jason8|> I had the same problem.
[07:47] <zybrid> What is best? Ati, Radeon or fglrx? <- for running beryl
[07:47] <AlexC_> juano: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:48] <|Jason8|> I run mine at half, because otherwise my stereo distorts everything.
[07:48] <|Jason8|> so it's not really a problem.
[07:48] <Marupa> Ahh, I have unamped headphones I use, is why.
[07:48] <juano> AlexC_: ahh thanks :)
[07:49] <Hal_Horn> ProN00b [and the rest of the channel] ; Etiquette question here. I am a total newbie at this. Id like to know how long is an acceptable repeat time. I dont want to see offensive, annoying, or skript kiddie ish
[07:49] <Marupa> at least 5 minutes, Ha1_Horn.
[07:49] <evilrob> so if I'm looking to install ext2online, where might I find a resource to tell me what package that is in.
[07:49] <AlexC_> I'm trying to set up Ubuntu to use a static IP instead of DHCP, but every time I restart the networking via "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says "SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument Failed to bring up eth0."  why is this?
[07:49] <Marupa> evilrob apt-cache search <somefile>
[07:50] <ProN00b> Hal_Horn, also, i gave you a little help on what you can try, you could at least tell us in more detail what you have tried already
[07:50] <evilrob> and if it comes back empty I'm SOL ??
[07:50] <erUSUL> AlexC_: have you posted your /etc/network/interfaces file to a pastebin?
[07:50] <AlexC_> erUSUL: nope, let me do it
[07:51] <AlexC_> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2761/
[07:51] <cpk1> evilrob: no, there could still be a .deb somewhere on the internet or you could build it yourself
[07:51] <evilrob> well yeah...  I know hwo to do that, I was justexpecting this "wonderful somple distro" to actually be simple.
[07:51] <HairyDude> hrm, the one in universe is ugly by default too.
[07:52] <cpk1> evilrob: if you find a .deb somewhere else it still will be really simple
[07:52] <Marupa> |Jason8|, now it doesn't have any volume whatsoever.
[07:53] <Hal_Horn> ProN00b; What I have tried so far is general fiddling with all keyboard options. Ive also tried setting layout to all US or UK keyboards, one at a time. I have also tried to use every model of generic keyboard, as well as every Genius keyboard. Nothing has worked.
[07:53] <Hal_Horn> Personally, because it usually produces mlauts when only one tap, I think it might be a language support option/
[07:53] <AlexC_> evilrob: or even a .rpm file and convert it with alien
[07:53] <pbureau> Hal_Horn,  are you perhaps using a wireless keyboard?
[07:53] <Hal_Horn> pbureau: Nope.
[07:54] <|Jason8|> Marupa, that sounds pretty odd.  I've never had that problem.  Works fine for me.
[07:54] <|Jason8|> Let me boot up my ubuntu compy and vnc to it.
[07:54] <Marupa> I've got double cards, that might be why.
[07:54] <Marupa> one's a SiS, one's a C-media
[07:54] <gizmo_the_great1> I am having major problems connecting my laptop to my wireless router. It works fine via ethernet and it worked before with Ubuntu until I had to re-install. How can I determine whether it's my laptop not picking up the signal or the router notgranting it access? I have wlassistant and it says no networks found.
[07:55] <Hal_Horn> Any ideas, anyone, now that you have more info?
[07:55] <Marupa> I still say it's the keyboard layout.  It's the only thing that'd make sense in this case.
[07:56] <Hal_Horn> Well, Ive tired every keyboard layout/keyboard model combo I could think of
[07:56] <cpk1> Marupa: but sound is fine from mpg123-alsa or mpg123?
[07:56] <Hal_Horn> My keyboard is a Genius Comfy KB-21e-Scroll, just to iterate it
[07:56] <Marupa> double-checking, cpk1.
[07:56] <luca>  anybody know how use to gnupg program in php?
[07:56] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  what wifi card chipset ?
[07:56] <erUSUL> AlexC_: try disabling network keyword like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2762/
[07:57] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: how do I determine that?
[07:57] <Marupa> Nada, now, cpk.
[07:57] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  lspci in terminal
[07:57] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: give me 2 ticks....
[07:57] <AlexC_> erUSUL: nope, that doesn't work either =\
[07:57] <LjL> /who ubuntu/member/seveas
[07:57] <cpk1> Marupa: I would check alsamixer and make sure all the levels are set correctly
[07:57] <|Jason8|> gizmo_the_great1, I had that problem when I first installed.  Go into your network settings and type in the name for your home network.  That was my problem, could be yours.
[07:57] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  answer in private... be easier
[07:57] <sycho> I'm looking to format and reinstall feisty. I have a 120 gig HD and want to partition it to keep my home directory separate. Any ideas on how much space I should give to Feisty?
[07:58] <Marupa> Oh, wait...
[07:58] <erUSUL> AlexC_: sudo ifconfig eth0 inet up <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:58] <Marupa> I'm just a total moron.
[07:58] <gizmo_the_great1> |Jason8|: already done that, but thanks anyway
[07:58] <Marupa> Wireless headphones need to be ON to listen to music.
[07:58] <AlexC_> erUSUL: shouldn't that be <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:58] <cpk1> hahaha
[07:58] <|Jason8|> Marupa, heyyyyyyyyyy!
[07:58] <Lunar_Lamp> sycho, 10gb for the base install would be absolutely loads. 5gb would be enough for base install and many packages. If you plan on installing a lot, you could got for about 10gb with a separate /home.
[07:58] <Marupa> but xmms is still quite quiet.
[07:59] <kelsin> Running display for me generates "display: unable to load font `-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'." This is on a new edgy system, any ideas? can't find anything on the forums
[07:59] <AlexC_> erUSUL: SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument again =\
[07:59] <pbureau> Marupa,  isnt there an option to change volume output on xmms?
[07:59] <cpk1> Marupa: check alsamixer and make sure you have the levels turned up
[07:59] <cpk1> and tell xmms to use alsa
[07:59] <Marupa> double-checking again..
[07:59] <Hal_Horn> Anyone got any more ideas?
[07:59] <Marupa> xmms is using alsa.
[08:00] <sycho> Lunar_Lamp: I'm not really sure how many packages. Maybe I'll just go with the 10 gigs to be safe. I'm still new to ubuntu and linux
[08:00] <Marupa> cpk1, The levels are fine.
[08:01] <pbureau> how do you register an account. (they locked non registered accounts
[08:01] <sycho> Lunar_Lamp: Would there be even a better way to partition my HD for better optimization?
[08:01] <AlexC_> pbureau: /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[08:01] <pbureau> danke
[08:02] <Marupa> any ideas, cpk1 |Jason8| ?
[08:02] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  so whats the lspci tell you ?
[08:02] <|Jason8|> um... Marupa, got any speakers laying around?  I'd test with those.  Or test the headphones on something else.
[08:02] <|Jason8|> maybe it's not a problem with the program
[08:02] <Hal_Horn> Anyone got any keyboard help ideas?
[08:02] <erUSUL> AlexC_: AlexC_ yes it should i always get it wrong
[08:02] <cpk1> Marupa: not sure this applies for you but when i was getting my digital out to work i was having problems with low volume because my ac97 levels werent all the way to 0
[08:02] <Marupa> the headphones are fine when I'm listening to my MP3 player or with amarok.
[08:03] <pbureau> Hal_Horn,  got another spare keyboard around to see if it doing the same thing ?
[08:03] <AlexC_> erUSUL: it should display that???
[08:03] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: sorry mate - I was in the private chat bit :-) It lists loads of Intel stuff, 82801BA for things like 'Mobile PCI Bridge' and Ethernet Controller but no mention of wireless specifically
[08:03] <Marupa> xmms is the only quiet one, as far as I've seen.
[08:03] <AlexC_> erUSUL: I mean, it still says the same error,
[08:03] <cpk1> i take it the volume on xmms is turned up? =P
[08:03] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  lookinto hardinfo,and what it finds.
[08:04] <Hal_Horn> pbureau, no such luck
[08:04] <AlexC_> erUSUL: when I set up the static IP - I can still see the PC on the network, it can access the router and everything, it just can't get to the outside world. Such as "ping www.google.co.uk" returns connect: Network is unreachable
[08:04] <boricua> !xfce
[08:04] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:04] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: sorry - not sure I understand? Is that a /proc command or do you mean via the admin menu?
[08:04] <Smokie_joe> help
[08:04] <AlexC_> !help Smokie_joe
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help Smokie_joe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <AlexC_> hum,
[08:05] <Smokie_joe> lol sry
[08:05] <Marupa> yes, cpk1.
[08:05] <Smokie_joe> i want to get the irc help ^^
[08:05] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  do you use Gnome ?
[08:05] <Smokie_joe> and i forgot the /
[08:05] <|Jason8|> is xubuntu any faster than ubuntu?  I'm running it on a 450 MHz AMD... so I'm looking for any performance boost I can get.
[08:05] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: yes - i looking in 'device manager' now
[08:05] <AlexC_> |Jason8|: try it and see,
[08:06] <Marupa> well, alternatively, I could use some help getting amarok back working again.
[08:06] <The_StalLion> hi - does anyone here have gmail? if so, please could you invite<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thanks
[08:06] <ShadowX> sup guys?
[08:06] <AlexC_> The_StalLion: does this look like a gmail channel?
[08:06] <xored> |Jason8|: no offense to ubuntu users but in that situation, use arch linux with fluxbox or anything like that
[08:06] <recon> The_StalLion: this really isn't the place to ask that.
[08:06] <Marupa> it is indeed working, the process is running, but X isn't registering it as running, for osme reason.
[08:06] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: ok - it says'PCI1410 PC Card Bus Controller --> WaveLAN/IEEE --> WLAN Interface --> Unknown Device
[08:06] <ShadowX> anyone know how I can install a package from an RPM in Ubuntu?
[08:06] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: does that help?
[08:06] <AlexC_> ShadowX: use alien to convert it to a .deb
[08:06] <Marupa> use alien, ShadowX.
[08:06] <erUSUL> AlexC_: weird if i put your config in my ifaces file i get the same error as you but in the comand line with sudo ifconfig eth0 inet up <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS> it works :(
[08:07] <|Jason8|> xored, I'll look into it.  Thanks.
[08:07] <cpk1> Marupa: whats wrong with amarok
[08:07] <Marupa> it's not showing up, cpk1,.
[08:07] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  click on it and click on details whats doe sit say ?
[08:07] <cpk1> Marupa: you could also try exhaile its supposed to be amarok with gtk more or less
[08:07] <Marupa> that doesn't solve the problem of the invisible amarok, though.
[08:07] <cpk1> Marupa: not showing up? tries to load and then doesnt?
[08:08] <Marupa> it loads, there's no icon or anything though.
[08:08] <erUSUL> AlexC_: i'm a stupid!!! you have in the interfaces file a netmas with *225* not *255* as it should!!!
[08:08] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: device type : net80211, net.interface : eth1, WLAN Interface, etc etc
[08:08] <raavi> Marupa: check on system try
[08:08] <Marupa> what, raavi?
[08:08] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: eth1 is set as my default connection in netowrk manager too
[08:08] <raavi> Marupa: System tray
[08:08] <AlexC_> erUSUL: hahah, why didn't I notice that!!
[08:08] <Marupa> that's where it usually resides.  It's not there, raavi.
[08:09] <AlexC_> erUSUL: thank you, I shall try it now - hopefully it should work
[08:09] <raavi> Marupa: Can you try to open amarok on a konsole
[08:09] <erUSUL> AlexC_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2764/
[08:09] <raavi> Marupa: let us see...from the what is causing the problems...
[08:09] <Marupa> ok, the playlist popped up, but the rest is still missing, raavi.
[08:09] <TheVault> I got some questions and I need some help
[08:09] <Hal_Horn> Ok guys
[08:09] <[SilverFox] > is there any easy like in the add/remove applications anything good for desktop stuff theres this one forget name but has a hard install looking for like desktop type mods :D
[08:09] <Hal_Horn> Currently using a different keyboard
[08:10] <AlexC_> erUSUL: works like a charm! thanks!
[08:10] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  hang on let me check something
[08:10] <erUSUL> AlexC_: no problem
[08:10] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: will do my friend :-)
[08:10] <raavi> Marupa: You have to check the configuration.....
[08:10] <Hal_Horn> In here, it typs one 'per tap, BUT it still different to the real thing, and console doesnt reconise it
[08:10] <kelsin> My display problem was solved, the font lines in my xorg.conf were wrong for some reason... fixed now
[08:10] <TheVault> I got some questions, does anyone care to help me?
[08:11] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: i just realised the 'unknown device' is what is listed as wifi0 but that has never been used. Before, it was eth1 too, and that seems to be recognised herre as the WLAN Interface' already described above
[08:11] <raavi> TheVault: What is your question.
[08:11] <TheVault> Alright, Last night I dual booted with Windows Xp on my Dell computer for the first time, everything went smoothly until I reached the point of connecting wirelessly
[08:11] <Marupa> ok....loading it, kinda.  it just sits there saying 'QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image' over and over again, no window shows up now.
[08:12] <Hal_Horn> Guys, I tried a different keyboard. It works the same, basicaly
[08:12] <TheVault> Well I went to Administration > Networking and enabled the wireless setting thing
[08:12] <TheVault> I entered my ESSID and my password for my login for my wireless network
[08:12] <TheVault> and it does not connect me to my network
[08:12] <TheVault> I also made a video which I am uploading right now to show you what I mean
[08:13] <raavi> TheVault: Check out what encription...
[08:13] <humbolto> When I put "xxx ALL=/usr/bin/update-manager" in the sudoers file, I am still not able to run update-manager as user xxx
[08:13] <TheVault> I have WPA-SK
[08:13] <TheVault> Instead of WEP, I use WPA-SK
[08:13] <raavi> TheVault: Use iwlist yourinterface scan
[08:13] <Hal_Horn> Alrighty, everyone. Its a config issue, not a keyboard thing. So now what?
[08:14] <TheVault> Iwlist?
[08:14] <raavi> Your interface might be ethx x=0,1,....
[08:14] <Marupa> make sure you have the right layout and language selected, Hal_Horn.
[08:14] <Hal_Horn> Is there any way I can, say, just change the settings on two keys?
[08:14] <raavi> try ifconfig
[08:14] <raavi> to find interface...
[08:14] <TheVault> alright, 1 moment
[08:14] <Hal_Horn> Marupa, to the best of my knowedge, I do
[08:14] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: is it causing problems?
[08:14] <TheVault> i put this in terminal correct?
[08:14] <raavi> Are you sure does the modules are loaded properly for your wireless card
[08:15] <raavi> yes in terminal.
[08:15] <Marupa> go to System->Preferences->Keyboard, then the layouts tab.
[08:15] <TheVault> Alright, 1 moment Raavi
[08:15] <ShadowX> Ubuntu can install .deb, right?
[08:15] <Marupa> should be keyboard model Generic 105 key (intl)  and U.S. English
[08:15] <gizmo_the_great1> ShadowX: yes - use dpkg
[08:15] <ShadowX> kk
[08:15] <Marupa> that should allow even your special keys to work, Hal_Horn.
[08:15] <fdoving> ShadowX: yes, that's what it does. don't install just any .deb though. it should preferably be a .deb made for ubuntu/kubuntu.
[08:15] <TheVault> alright, what do I look for?
[08:15] <raavi> What happens...
[08:16] <monteiro> i can't burn with k3b, i've the folowing error: [growisofs]  :-( Failed to change write speed: 5540->11080 (this happens only with data cd/dvd not audio)
[08:16] <TheVault> bunch of text
[08:16] <raavi> Do you see the scan list...
[08:16] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: Special keys?
[08:16] <ShadowX> well, I wanna install Limewire, but I can only get an rpm for it
[08:16] <TheVault> scan list?
[08:16] <ShadowX> or windows, and I REALLY dont wanna run wine, cuz it sux
[08:16] <Marupa> like any media keys on your keyboard (play/pause/stop, etc)
[08:16] <raavi> what is your interface
[08:16] <raavi> eth...
[08:16] <TheVault> here is the video I made
[08:16] <TheVault> 	http://rapidshare.com/files/13207991/ubuntuwirelesshelp.wmv.html
[08:17] <crimson> hey, my trash applet has disappeared and i get an unusual message when i try to  replace it on my panel, saying that the applet has been deleted. anyone got a solution?
[08:17] <TheVault> I just made that, I don't know if that will help with this problem
[08:17] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: They work. Kind of.
[08:17] <Marupa> shadowX  If you want to run windows, try vmWare.
[08:17] <TheVault> I filmed my screen
[08:17] <raavi> First. What chip is that for wireles..
[08:17] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: The play/pause media key works.
[08:17] <Marupa> are the layouts set to those, Hal_Horn?
[08:17] <kikabola> hello, everybody
[08:17] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: So does the stop and volume ones.
[08:17] <TheVault> one moment
[08:17] <monteiro> ShadowX : use alien to convert rpm to deb :)
[08:18] <Marupa> so do mine.  But I believe those work no matter what.
[08:18] <Hal_Horn> Marupa: ALl media keys EXCEPT Forward/Backward ong works
[08:18] <TheVault> Broadcom 4311, would that be it
[08:18] <humbolto> humbolt@doroga:~$ gksudo "update-manager"
[08:18] <humbolto> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:18] <humbolto> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:18] <humbolto> what is wrong?
[08:18] <telecentro> 123
[08:18] <Tsool> Hiya! What file should I edit to avoid loading the module usbhid at boot?
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> Tsool: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:19] <TheVault> Raavi - my chip is inside my notebook, built in
[08:19] <TheVault> wish I could show you visually
[08:19] <bauer77> if I log into a windows share with credentials to access that share (network) , how do I disconnect it so it prompts for username and password again?
[08:19] <raavi> Yes for sure it is built in..
[08:19] <|Jason8|> Is there a way to set hotkeys in xmss like Winamp allows?
[08:19] <Tsool> Int: My nipples explode with delight! I'll put a line there - which part sez that it *should* be loaded?
[08:19] <raavi> Do you have any idea about the chip..
[08:20] <TheVault> the name of my wireless network card?
[08:20] <pollywog> Edgy has already been released, right?
[08:20] <raavi> Yeah..
[08:20] <Hal_Horn> So, any ideas with regards to my keyboard? Sorry for te ongoingness, but Im confident that Ive covered all the bases I can see
[08:20] <bauer77> yes pollywog
[08:20] <TheVault> oh,
[08:20] <raavi> Try using lspci to find that...
[08:20] <kikabola> i am partitioning my HD and i left 17 GB for swap.  im installing 6.1, will i be able to change the partitioning once its installed?
[08:20] <pollywog> I notice that I still get updates that are not security updates
[08:20] <humbolto> what is the difference between gksu and gksudo?
[08:20] <octal> Hal_Horn, what's the problem?
[08:21] <pollywog> so that is different from Debian, because once a Debian release is out, the only updates are fixes
[08:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Tsool: modprobe -l will list all the driver modules the kernel knows about, and that list is set by doing depmod -ae
[08:21] <Hal_Horn> octal, Ever since I got Ubuntu, the only way to generate the  and  was to DOUBLE tap the pertainant key [with/out shift] . If I tap it once, the next key I press comes out, if applicable, with an accent character.  + [x]  gives umlauts (), +[x]  gives (). This isnt an issue, and is kinda cool as it lets me do mlauts. However, the  and  marks dont work when programming Python, which Iam trying to learn. I think
[08:21] <TheVault> is that a 1 in the beginning of the s for that command you gave me raavi
[08:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Tsool: There are other files in /etc/modprobe.d/ such as 'whitelist' and 'aliases'
[08:21] <raavi> l-lord
[08:22] <TheVault> sorry
[08:22] <raavi> No apologies
[08:22] <ShadowX> woohoo, I made my first .deb
[08:22] <pollywog> but I guess nothing new is added post-release, right?
[08:22] <ShadowX> and am installing it, and I actually used commandline to do something useful!! yay! :P
[08:22] <TheVault> keeps saying command not found when I enter that in raavi
[08:22] <Marupa> is there a way to make XMMS minimise to tray?
[08:23] <Julian87> hello
[08:23] <raavi> you must be a root to use that
[08:23] <raavi> sudo su lspci
[08:23] <raavi> sorry
[08:23] <TheVault> ahh ok
[08:23] <TheVault> its good
[08:23] <lskd-255> shadowx, congratulations :)  I hope it's a success and you make many more
[08:23] <raavi> sudo lspci
[08:23] <ShadowX> thanks lskd-255
[08:23] <octal> Hal_Horn, try AltGr + " and AltGr + '
[08:24] <raavi> Did you see the card info
[08:24] <raavi> or..
[08:24] <octal> That happened to me using SciTe, but not using Gnome. Beats me.
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> AltGr?
[08:24] <TheVault> hold on
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Whats the Gr?
[08:24] <octal> Hal_Horn, right alt.
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Ah, k
[08:24] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: r u still there?
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Woah
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Thats awesone
[08:24] <octal> What kb layout are you using, btw?
[08:24] <pollywog> is there a place where I can find out about universe and the other Ubuntu specific stuff in sources.list?
[08:24] <Hal_Horn> Octal, youre my hero
[08:24] <octal> Hal_Horn, :-)
[08:24] <goodgerster> evenin', all
[08:24] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:24] <raavi> pollywog: You can enable that in synaptic
[08:25] <pollywog> raavi: oic
[08:25] <pollywog> ty
[08:25] <Hal_Horn> octal, can I change it so it just does ' by default>?
[08:25] <Marupa> just a small question of mine, goodgerster.
[08:25] <goodgerster> raavi: back in my day we used nano and liked it! :P
[08:25] <gizmo_the_great1> goodgerster: I think pbureua is helping me - he went off about 10 minutes to look something up - but he not been back?
[08:25] <goodgerster> Marupa: go on
[08:25] <grimeboy> How do I mount cue/bin files?
[08:25] <goodgerster> gizmo_the_great1: well, I'll help if possible
[08:25] <grimeboy> !cue
[08:25] <Marupa> any way to get xmms to minimise to tray?  And/or get amarok to appear?
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <octal> Hal_Horn, I'm not sure. I had that problem with specific applications, like Scite, IIRC.
[08:25] <octal> Hal_Horn, what keyboard layout are you using, btw?
[08:26] <goodgerster> grimeboy: google for "linux convert cue/bin to iso" and "linux mount iso"
[08:26] <raavi> goodgerster: Vim is great...
[08:26] <Hal_Horn> Us International Dead keys
[08:26] <grimeboy> goodgerster, Okay, thanks.
[08:26] <raavi> goodgerster: Ofcourse nano is simple to use.
[08:26] <goodgerster> raavi: probably, yes. but far too convoluted
[08:26] <Marupa> that's why, Hal_Horn.
[08:26] <raavi> goodgerster: :)
[08:26] <Hal_Horn> What do I change it to, then?
[08:26] <goodgerster> Marupa: does amarok give a specific error, for instance in the terminal?
[08:26] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:26] <TheVault> alright, searching now raavi
[08:26] <grimeboy> goodgerster, And by convoluted you mean excellent?
[08:26] <Marupa> US.S. english and generic 105 key.
[08:26] <goodgerster> grimeboy: no, I mean ludicrously complex
[08:26] <|Jason8|> Hal_Horn, change it to Generic 105 international
[08:27] <raavi> TheVault: otherwise you can send it to me...I can find that...for you.
[08:27] <TheVault> that works
[08:27] <Marupa> no, it doesn't goodgerster.
[08:27] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  check you private window
[08:27] <octal> Hal_Horn, what editor are you using?
[08:27] <TheVault> i am using my
[08:27] <grimeboy> Not really compared to emacs.
[08:27] <goodgerster> grimeboy: actually, I just can't be arsed to learn a bookful of keyboard commands
[08:27] <raavi> TheVault: which one, you mean
[08:27] <TheVault> laptop to do the work on and my desktop to talk with you
[08:27] <Hal_Horn> editor for what?
[08:27] <goodgerster> Marupa: well, what happens when it's run?
[08:27] <octal> Hal_Horn, for programming.
[08:27] <TheVault> I'm searching, hold on
[08:27] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: i have done - i typing in it - you not see anything?
[08:27] <Hal_Horn> python, in the terminal
[08:27] <grimeboy> goodgerster, Cream is fun to start with.
[08:27] <raavi> TheVault: I see.
[08:27] <Marupa> it just sits there saying 'QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image' over and over again, no window shows up now.
[08:27] <goodgerster> grimeboy: bluefish ftw
[08:28] <lskd-255> what's the deal with locked directories?
[08:28] <instabin> How do I change the default gnome loading image
[08:28] <TheVault> lemme just copy whats on my screen onto my ipod and I'll upload it for ya
[08:28] <goodgerster> Marupa: that's an error. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:28] <TheVault> 1 moment
[08:28] <cpk1> grimeboy: i think what you need is bchunk
[08:28] <grimeboy> goodgerster, I used that for a while. It's quite good but it's python highlighting messed up.
[08:28] <Marupa> 6.10
[08:28] <raavi> instabin: You mean the splash screen or..
[08:28] <goodgerster> instabin: there's an application for changing it, you can find it in synaptic
[08:28] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: can you see the messages?
[08:28] <pollywog_> btw is it okay to lurk in the channel?
[08:28] <goodgerster> grimeboy: I've never had trouble
[08:28] <grimeboy> cpk1, Ah, thanks
[08:28] <XVampireX> How does one go about restoring files on ext3?
[08:28] <grimeboy> goodgerster, Must have been fixed.
[08:28] <goodgerster> pollywog_: yes, as long as you don't spam/annoy
[08:28] <instabin> goodgerster do you know what the app is called
[08:29] <pollywog_> goodgerster: ty
[08:29] <krang> Hey all. If I want a nice stable and secure server, is it best to go for Ubuntu server 6.06 or 6.10?
[08:29] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  nope proably because you need to register the nick your using /msg nickserv register <password>
[08:29] <goodgerster> krang: 6.06
[08:29] <cpk1> pollywog_: over 1k people in channel, i think some of them are lurking =)
[08:29] <goodgerster> instabin: no, but google probably does... gnome-splash or something
[08:29] <krang> goodgerster: That's what i figured. Cheers
[08:29] <raavi> krag: It depends what is going to run on that server.
[08:29] <grimeboy> pollywog_, Its not really lurking if you ask first is it?
[08:29] <pollywog_> I guess not
[08:29] <grimeboy> +'
[08:29] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:29] <goodgerster> I love XCHAT scripting, I really do
[08:29] <Marupa> never finished answernig mine, goodgerster.
[08:30] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: basically I notice it says 'Access Point --> None' for the eth1 connection
[08:30] <AlexC_> Hey, How can I give user "web" access to /var/www ?
[08:30] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: does that suggest that it does not know about the wireless router at all?
[08:30] <TheVault> raavi : http://thevault.kingofhosts.com/command.txt
[08:30] <cpk1> Marupa: does amarok still play? is it only the gui that is messed up?
[08:30] <TheVault> thats why it displays
[08:30] <pollywog_> there should be a bot named captain peacock to ask "are you being served"
[08:31] <Marupa> I can't get it to play if there's no menu or GUI, cpk.
[08:31] <krang> AlexC_: Try putting a symlink to it in /var/www/html?
[08:31] <goodgerster> Marupa: good point. have you tried reinstalling amarok, googling with the error, checking that you've got all the dependencies correctly installed, checking that you've not used Automatix or similar?
[08:31] <cpk1> Marupa: open a console and do amarok --play
[08:31] <Marupa> it was working yesterday.
[08:31] <grimeboy> pollywog_, Why peacock? Do you mean like Joe Peacock?
[08:31] <goodgerster> Marupa: has anything changed since then?
[08:31] <pollywog_> grimeboy: the character from the British comedy
[08:31] <TheVault> raavi : so is that what your looking for?
[08:32] <Marupa> not that I know of, goodgerster.
[08:32] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  well lets get ubuntu to reconize and work the wifi card first
[08:32] <goodgerster> Marupa: has the problem persisted across sessions and reboots?
[08:32] <Marupa> and no, cpk1, running that doesn't help.
[08:32] <Marupa> yep.
[08:32] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: OK - how do we do that? I thought it did recognise it?
[08:32] <nevin> can anyone help me getting 3d support while keeping my aiglx?
[08:32] <pollywog_> "Are You Being Served" I think it is called in the US
[08:32] <curiosidad> Hi there. After update at Edgy I found that gnome kicks me out saying "there's another panel running". I tried ps -a from a text terminal but I couldm't locate gnome/panel app. Any ideas\
[08:32] <raavi> TheVault: Very unfortunate, it tells unknown device
[08:32] <goodgerster> cpk1: any ideas? I've not used Qt apps
[08:32] <TheVault> oh god
[08:32] <TheVault> so that means I can't have wireless?
[08:32] <raavi> TheVault: but it indentifies as broadcom
[08:33] <grimeboy> pollywog_, I'm not a usian, just ignorant.
[08:33] <TheVault> so this means i cannot have wireless?
[08:33] <goodgerster> nevin: aiglx doesn't negate 3d support. you just need to install the appropriate driver. what sort of graphics card do you have?
[08:33] <Marupa> woah.  o.o
[08:33] <raavi> TheVault: Did you check in www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:33] <Marupa> uninstalling amarok....and holy crap, ther's a bunch of dependencies.
[08:33] <nevin> goodgerster, i have an ati x300m
[08:33] <TheVault> yeah, alotta that stuff is not making sense
[08:33] <raavi> TheVault: No, I dont mean that...
[08:33] <pbureau> gizmo did you register you nick so we can take this privatly
[08:33] <goodgerster> Marupa: goodo
[08:33] <raavi> TheVault: but you may need some more hacking..and tweaking.
[08:33] <cpk1> Marupa: amarok depends on kde is why
[08:33] <goodgerster> nevin: google for "edgy fglrx" then, and follow the instructions
[08:34] <cpk1> Marupa: first I would try to run amarok as a different user
[08:34] <octal> Is anyone else having trouble installing racoon under dapper?
[08:34] <jenda> Hey hola - I just found out my outgoing email messages contain my IP in them. Is there anything i can do about that?
[08:34] <kikabola> can anyone help me with the text-based installer?
[08:34] <raavi> TheVault: Just wait, I am searching in the guide.
[08:34] <TheVault> Alright
[08:34] <goodgerster> nevin: why did you think that AIGXL negates 3d support? it's partly dependent upon it
[08:34] <goodgerster> kikabola: yep, what's the trouble?
[08:34] <jenda> kikabola: what's the matter?
[08:34] <jenda>
[08:34] <TheVault> I can switch back into Windows and tell you the exact name of my Wireless network card if ya want
[08:34] <nevin> goodgerster, i used to have fglrx installed in dapper with xgl support with compiz, but when i update to edgy it didn't work
[08:34] <jenda> I'll leave it to you (gotta run)
[08:34] <Zatar> hello. I was trying to install XGL and compiz, but I messed something up. Now I can't boot into Ubuntu. Is there a way I can "revert" the system to a previous state where it booted?
[08:34] <bertam> Hi everyone, I'm trying to mount a new HDD in ~/Storage, but it always mounts as read only (owned by root).  How can I mount it rw for my user?  I've tried many settings in my fstab, but nothing works.  Thanks!
[08:34] <kikabola> i got a warning that some of the files are corrupt, and im in the middle of an install
[08:34] <|Jason8|> Why is everyone worried about having their IP address sent out in emails?
[08:35] <kikabola> should i download another version?
[08:35] <raavi> TheVault: okay..you can do that..
[08:35] <goodgerster> nevin: edgy upgrades break a lot of stuff. reinstall fglrx
[08:35] <TheVault> raavi : alright, booting into windows now
[08:35] <nevin> goodgerster, alright... ill be back then
[08:35] <goodgerster> bertam: set the triple number thingy to 007
[08:35] <raavi> TheVault: Do you use edgy or ...
[08:35] <Marupa> I don't know, |Jason8|.  nothing they can do for or against it anyway.
[08:35] <AlexC_> how do I remove a system link??
[08:35] <TheVault> I use 6.10 so whatever that is
[08:35] <bertam> goodgerster, do you mean umask=007?
[08:36] <AlexC_> TheVault: 6.10 is Edgy
[08:36] <goodgerster> bertam: yeah. what is it now?
[08:36] <TheVault> Thanks AlexC
[08:36] <goodgerster> AlexC_: RM like any other file
[08:36] <TheVault> I am still new to Linux and I am swarming my brain with everything to know
[08:36] <goodgerster> I think I need a new acronym: GIYF (google is your friend)
[08:36] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  I did a search for net80211 and I cannot find anything about it... lspci should see a wireless card for example it looks like this (sort of) on my pc  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[08:37] <AlexC_> goodgerster: thanks
[08:37] <kikabola> i believe Dan Savage says google f*ing exists (GFE)
[08:37] <goodgerster> kikabola: that's a bit RTFMish, I'd prefer something more gentle
[08:37] <bertam> goodgerster: I've tried setting it to various things, but anytime I have umask in my fstab I get errors when mounting.  I read in a few places that umaks is not supported for ext3?
[08:37] <kikabola> agreed
[08:37] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: on mine it says Ethernet controller : Intel Corp 82801BA/BAM/CA/CAM Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
[08:38] <|Jason8|> Marupa, what bugs me is the fact that unless they're using a proxy, they're sending it out anyway. a simple /dns command in mIRC reveals their IP instantly.
[08:38] <goodgerster> kikabola: although I admittedly do feel like screaming "GOOGLE, DAMN YOU!" at times
[08:38] <pbureau> gizmo_the_great1,  okay that makes sence now...
[08:38] <kikabola> so i did google *my* problem...
[08:38] <goodgerster> bertam: the latter is wrong, the former is wierd
[08:38] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: it does? why?
[08:38] <curiosidad> Hi there. After update at Edgy I found that gnome kicks me out saying "there's another panel running". I tried ps -a from a text terminal but I couldm't locate gnome/panel app. Any ideas\
[08:38] <pbureau> cant you private yet ? (registered nick) wanna see other info that would be considered flooding channel
[08:38] <AlexC_> how can I link /home/web/web to /var/www without /var/www making another directory called /web ?
[08:38] <pbureau> because net80211 is not a network card and 82801BA is
[08:39] <kikabola> but i still dont know what to do about the corrupted files
[08:39] <goodgerster> bertam: my fstab has a umask for every entry, afaik.. *looks*
[08:39] <Marupa> ln -s, AlexC_.
[08:39] <goodgerster> kikabola: what's the trouble?
[08:39] <raavi> TheVault: did you find that...
[08:39] <bertam> goodgerster:  Ok, that's good to know.  I've been on google all morning trying to get this sorted out, and I'm going nuts. :)
[08:39] <TheVault> Raavi: yeah
[08:39] <TheVault> here goes
[08:39] <goodgerster> bertam: actually, I'm only umasking for FAT
[08:39] <AlexC_> Marupa: yeah, I've done that. sudo ln -s ~/web /var/www   but when I do "ls /var/www" I see another directory in there called "web"
[08:40] <TheVault> Dell Wirelesss 1390 WLAN Mini-Card  Rev.3.6
[08:40] <AlexC_> Marupa: I don't want that, I want the files from ~/web to be in /var/www not /var/www/web
[08:40] <kikabola> i got a warning that some of the files (wireless tools, bsdtools) are corrupt while im installing
[08:40] <TheVault> you want the chipset information?
[08:40] <Zatar> I messed up my Ubuntu, and now I cant boot into it. Is there a way to revert it back, or access the files from the live cd so I can try to.. unmess?
[08:40] <goodgerster> bertam: options for user-mountableness is defaults,users afaik
[08:40] <raavi> Yeah..
[08:40] <goodgerster> Zatar: google "ubuntu livecd chmod"
[08:40] <bertam> goodgerster:  I think I have tried that, but let me try again
[08:40] <lskd-255> I must have done someone in here very wrong
[08:40] <TheVault> Chipset: BCM4311/ BCM2050
[08:40] <Zatar> thx goodgerster =P
[08:40] <gizmo_the_great1> pbureau: ok - so now what?
[08:41] <Jazon> hi everyone
[08:41] <TheVault> I hope this information helps Raavi
[08:41] <Jazon> i cant get direct rendering working on my i915 (laptop) chipset
[08:41] <Jazon> my xorg.conf is http://rafb.net/p/MmJygA47.html
[08:41] <raavi> TheVault: That is very common series...and it is very unfortunate the it does identify..
[08:41] <kikabola> goodgerster, can/should i abort this install and download another version from somewhere else?
[08:41] <bertam> goodgerster:  I just tried "/dev/hda1	/home/bertam/Storage	ext3	defaults,user	0 0", but it's readable only by root
[08:41] <raavi> What laptop do you use.
[08:41] <TheVault> Yeah
[08:41] <goodgerster> kikabola: whuh?
[08:42] <TheVault> I use Inspiron E1405
[08:42] <cpk1> kikabola: maybe they are corrupt because you had a bad burn?
[08:42] <raavi> TheVault: okay...I see...
[08:42] <Marupa> bertam:  sudo chmod 0755 the directory.
[08:42] <kikabola> i should try to burn again?
[08:42] <bertam> goodgerster: correction, it's writeable only by root.
[08:42] <raavi> TheVault: What is your expertise in linux...can you able to hack a bit...
[08:42] <TheVault> nah
[08:42] <Marupa> bertam:  sudo chmod 0777 the directory.
[08:42] <TheVault> but I can follow step by steps very good
[08:42] <goodgerster> bertam: see Marupa
[08:43] <kikabola> how can i abort an install?
[08:43] <Marupa> ctrl-c, kika?
[08:43] <raavi> TheVault: That is fine...there is one thing called ndispwrapper, it is kind of wrapper for binary drivers...
[08:43] <goodgerster> kikabola: depends how far you've got
[08:43] <raavi> TheVault:Further you can follow www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:43] <AlexC_> when I do "sudo ln -s ~/web /var/www" I end up with another directory inside /var/www ( /var/www/web ) why is this? I want all files in ~/web to be in /var/www not /var/www/eb
[08:43] <raavi> TheVault: I know, its bit of work to do...but at the end..you will have some fun..
[08:43] <kikabola> marupa, ctrl-c doesn
[08:43] <kikabola> *doesnt
[08:44] <[SilverFox] > whys ubuntu not good enough for xgl??? i checked packages but cant find it!
[08:44] <TheVault> alrighty, I am up for the challenge
[08:44] <lskd-255> !locked
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <ernz> Is anyone here a whiz-kid with mencoder? I need to convert an rmvb to an avi with no clipping/cropping and good frame rates, xvid preferably. If someone could throw together a line for a generic conversion, I would be greatly appreciative.
[08:44] <llonden> How do I gain write-access to my boot/grub/menu.1st file? I want to edit my default OS.
[08:44] <raavi> TheVault: Try following the ndispwrapper section and the section that follows afterwards..
[08:44] <TheVault> so whats the url to get there?
[08:44] <goodgerster> [SilverFox] : ubuntu doesn't use xgl any more, since xgl is a piece of crap. we use XAIGL which is rather tidier
[08:44] <bauer77> what are you looking for Silver Fox more specifically?
[08:44] <goodgerster> llonden: use sudo
[08:44] <forum2006> hi. in which file are the screensaver settings stored?
[08:44] <bertam> Marupa: Ok, now I am able to write to that directory.  I originally created ~/Storage with my user, but the permissions change after I "sudo mount -a".  Will I have to "sudo chmod 077" each time I reboot?
[08:44] <raavi> www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:44] <Marupa> nope, one time thing, bertam .
[08:45] <TheVault> i am there
[08:45] <bertam> Marupa:  Thanks very much for your help!
[08:45] <TheVault> what am I looking for
[08:45] <Marupa> I did the same thing to my 100 GB drive.
[08:45] <bertam> goodgerster:  Thanks very much for your help as well!
[08:45] <goodgerster> bertam: that's fine
[08:45] <[SilverFox] > ok thanks goodgerster i will check out im new to the whole linux desktop
[08:45] <raavi> TheVault: try searching ndispwrapper in that page...if you use firefox try Ctrl+F
[08:45] <TheVault> alrighty
[08:45] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:46] <raavi> TheVault: Before that, you can google a bit about your problem..
[08:46] <[SilverFox] > Ok this what looking for wicked desktop add-ons make all cool and neat looking effects wavy windows all that but there any premade packages for ubuntu i can find in the add/remove
[08:46] <TheVault> alrighty
[08:46] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I'm not being served,
[08:46] <goodgerster> [SilverFox] : nope, google for "ubuntu beryl"
[08:46] <raavi> TheVault: like no wireless on BCMxx in ubuntu edgy  ;)
[08:46] <goodgerster> AlexC_: do you require service? :P
[08:46] <AlexC_> goodgerster: when I do "sudo ln -s ~/web /var/www" I end up with another directory inside /var/www ( /var/www/web ) why is this? I want all files in ~/web to be in /var/www not /var/www/web
[08:46] <TheVault> alrighty
[08:47] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[08:47] <[SilverFox] > i did but thats compilcated to setup
[08:47] <Marupa> actually, it's very easy, SilverFox.
[08:47] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : it's not at all. There is no other easy way, all you gotta do is a few commands and that';s it - nothing complicated
[08:47] <goodgerster> AlexC_: I have no idea. but nautilus has decent symlink support
[08:47] <Marupa> you just have to add the repositories to apt, and then install.
[08:48] <snart> hello i instlled ubuntu today my first linux :>
[08:48] <Marupa> Hello, Snart.
[08:48] <raavi> [SilverFox] : No, its so simple...if you are not interested on XGL you can try AIGLX
[08:48] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I'm SSH'ing into a box which has no X or Gnome - so I do everything via command,
[08:48] <raavi> snart: and, how is it going...
[08:48] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : you don't even have to do any thinking, it tells you what to do!
[08:48] <snart> i am searching for a good faq  page  :>>
[08:48] <[SilverFox] > ok lol
[08:49] <goodgerster> AlexC_: ah. hmm, let's see
[08:49] <raavi> snart: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:49] <snart> thx :)
[08:49] <Rapture> fdas
[08:50] <goodgerster> AlexC_: methinks you have got your ln command mixed
[08:50] <goodgerster> ln -s <target> <file> is the syntax, so "ln -s /var/www /home/youruser/www" (don't use ~, it does wierd things with sudo)
[08:51] <raavi> if you use sudo with ~ it will point to /root
[08:51] <goodgerster> raavi: precisely
[08:51] <Marupa> ok, quick, stupid question.  Best (easy to set up) web server?  Just looking to share some files on the web, nothing super special.
[08:51] <goodgerster> Marupa: apache2
[08:52] <Marupa> any GUI for setting it up?
[08:52] <goodgerster> no.
[08:52] <goodgerster> sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:52] <raavi> Yeah...apache is okay...the rest of the setup depends on you...
[08:52] <Instabin> Can i use xdmcp over the internet. if so what ports do i need to open on my router
[08:52] <Marupa> I'll need a heck of a lot of help then.  I suck at setting up stuff conf wise.
[08:52] <Are-> r
[08:52] <AlexC_> goodgerster: nah, I want to link /home/web/web with /var/www so wouldn't it be the other way around?
[08:52] <goodgerster> then stick the files in /var/www/
[08:52] <raavi> if you want some security...you may need to write some iptables
[08:52] <raavi> for that
[08:53] <max__> what a good alternative ftp clients to gftp?
[08:53] <goodgerster> AlexC_: you want /var/www to redirect to /home/web/web
[08:53] <Marupa> really all I want is like Mac's web shares...pretty simple.
[08:53] <mamboadm> to make something world executable is that 777?
[08:53] <recon> mamboadm:  yep.
[08:53] <AlexC_> goodgerster: ahh, I see
[08:53] <Marupa> 0777, mamboadm.
[08:54] <goodgerster> so, ln -s <target> <shortcut>
[08:54] <goodgerster> i.e. "ln -s /var/www /home...."
[08:55] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[08:55] <AlexC_> goodgerster: that's not working either. I have "mypage.html" in /home/alex/web but after I did "sudo ln -s /var/www /home/alex/web" mypage.html is not in /var/www
[08:55] <teknowhore> what's the name of the the Add Printer wizard that is in ubuntu?  the System -> Administration -> Add Printer wizard, thing?
[08:55] <Marupa> well, goodgerster, if you could help me set up apache2, I'd be very greatful.
[08:56] <forum2006> noone knows in which file the screensaver preferences are stored?
[08:56] <Asl[a] n> Hi, what kind of a service should I be running if I want to setup a domain that I want to use on the intranet?
[08:56] <goodgerster> Marupa: sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:56] <Marupa> notice that I said set up, not install.
[08:56] <Asl[a] n> does it require a complex setup with bind9?
[08:56] <goodgerster> AlexC_: hmm. does /var/www already exist perchance?
[08:56] <AlexC_> goodgerster: yes, it has files in it
[08:57] <goodgerster> AlexC_: try deleting the entire directory and then recreating it via symlink
[08:57] <dirrt1> marupa XAMPP is easy way to set up Apache MYSQL Per
[08:57] <goodgerster> Marupa: well, to set it up you type "sudo apt-get install apache2" and then close the window...
[08:57] <AlexC_> goodgerster: but I don't want to get rid if /var/www as it has phpmyadmin it in aswell
[08:57] <AlexC_> s/it in/in it
[08:57] <Marupa> that's not setting it up though.  That's default config.
[08:57] <goodgerster> Marupa: after that, put your files in /var/www
[08:58] <TheVault> i am finding nothing on this ndiswrapper thing raavi
[08:58] <dudanogueira> does anyone knows how to install the touchpad synaptics on ubuntu edgy? my scroll ou touchpad isnt working... :(
[08:58] <TheVault> i entered the command in terminal and it don't work
[08:58] <goodgerster> AlexC_: well, try making the symlink target /var/www/somethingelse or moving phpmyadmin to the home dir
[08:58] <Asl[a] n> dudanogueira, fortune cookie: you'll soon find yourself dating with !anyone
[08:58] <goodgerster> Marupa: well, you don't want anything different for "just sharing a few files"
[08:59] <goodgerster> Marupa: indeed, most people don't want anything different for "just hosting a fortune 500 website"
[08:59] <Marupa> but wouldn't that leave me wide open to attacks?
[08:59] <goodgerster> Marupa: why would the developers ship an insecure default configuration?
[09:00] <goodgerster> Marupa: why, indeed, would they make it possible to make it insecure by means of non-default configuration?
[09:00] <Asl[a] n> so anyone? how do i setup a domain group for use solely on the intranet?
[09:00] <bronze_0_1> goodgerster: used to be the standard for *NIXen.
[09:00] <Asl[a] n> is it really difficult thing to do?
 is there anyone that has been able to install a fully working version of GnomeArt manager?
[09:00] <goodgerster> Marupa: this is not windows, one is not expected to spend eight hours making the software fit for purpose
[09:00] <dirrt1> Marupa Goolge XAMpp and Firestarter
[09:01] <Asl[a] n> swx, i think i did on hoary. havent tried since
[09:01] <Marupa> Well, I think I'll skip on apache...for now anyway.
[09:01] <swx> <Asl[a] n> would be interest to? and help me :P
[09:01] <Marupa> though, i do have one more multipart question.
[09:01] <goodgerster> Marupa: fire away
[09:01] <AlexC_> Marupa: are you wanting to install LAMP?
[09:01] <goodgerster> (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) no, he/she/it's not, alex
[09:02] <AlexC_> ah ok,
[09:02] <Marupa> Is there any sort of interface/setup/etc that would A) allow me to share my current playlist, B) take requests from said playlist, and C) allow users to listen?
[09:02] <goodgerster> AlexC_: it's just "for sharing a few files" for which the standard config is apparently inadequate
[09:02] <swx> <Asl[a] n> just install gnome-art and rubygnome
[09:02] <name> do you know a board software that supports syntax highlighting out of the box?
[09:02] <goodgerster> Marupa: yeah, there's a rhythmbox extension for ahavi which does all that
[09:02] <Marupa> I'd like to get back into DJing, but I don't know the best way to do it.
[09:02] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html
[09:03] <whazilla> what am i doin wrong here ?
[09:03] <AlexC_> goodgerster: that's what I'm setting up mine for ... well sharing files and a PHP Proxy to use a college :P
[09:03] <whazilla> trying to update
[09:03] <foutrelis> hi :) I am testing some web apps on my local LAMP server and I would like to install a smtp server for mail tests. I have never attempted anything like this before and therefore I need you help. Anyone could point me to a how-to? Any suggestions are welcome :)
[09:03] <goodgerster> Marupa: oh, I see. you want to broadcast online? I'm not aware that ubuntu can do that, but you can certainly google it. shoutcast is good on windows
[09:03] <aoupi> Marupa: have you looked at shoutcast or icecast?
[09:03] <Marupa> there's no package for ahavi?
[09:03] <Marupa> I was wondering which would be better.
[09:03] <Marupa> shoutcast and icecast.  I've used both before.
[09:03] <whazilla> anybody care to help me upgrade ?
[09:04] <AlexC_> foutrelis: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 - it';s for 6.06 but read some of the sections in there
[09:04] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html >> i tried to no awail
[09:04] <goodgerster> Marupa: ahavi is built in. you just need to enable it in rhythmbox
[09:04] <goodgerster> whazilla: what's the trouble?
[09:04] <Marupa> I'm used to Virtual DJ's interface  X3
[09:04] <foutrelis> AlexC_: Looks promising ;) I ll sniff around its sections. thanks
[09:04] <AlexC_> foutrelis: your welcome
[09:05] <Instabin> !xdmcp
[09:05] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[09:05] <goodgerster> whazilla: "sudo update-manager -c -d" usually gets it
[09:05] <Landon> Hey all, I'm trying to figure out "Wine" and I've already sudo apt-get installed wine and it's there, I'm just trying to figure out the next step, anyone have a clue how to get it in my menu bars or if there is something else I need to do?
[09:05] <pbureau> LjL,  busy day eh ?
[09:06] <wolfwalker> Landon, nope
[09:06] <Instabin> Landon: you have to install something with it
[09:06] <Marupa> Ok, I'm now totally lost.
[09:06] <goodgerster> Landon: you need to type "wine" followed by the path of installation executables
[09:06] <pbureau> Landon,  nope never used wine
[09:06] <LjL> pbureau: not really, just some exploiters as usual
[09:06] <AlexC_> Landon: in terminal type "wine path_to_file.exe
[09:06] <goodgerster> e.g. "wine ~/Desktop/setup.exe"
[09:06] <wolfwalker> |Landon:| Just load a program that runs in windows (you know, an exe file) and openit with with wine
[09:06] <Landon> Hahaha, thanks everyone
[09:06] <Landon> That basically answered my question
[09:06] <AlexC_> =)
[09:06] <goodgerster> anyone not being served?
[09:06] <AlexC_> me me me
[09:06] <AlexC_> :P
[09:06] <wolfwalker> |Landon:| Or right click on that exe file, select run with, and type wine in the run bar
[09:06] <Instabin> Landon : I installed counter stirke or steam and wine puts the short cuts for the installed programs in the menu
[09:06] <goodgerster> AlexC_: I'm aware you're not being served...
[09:07] <Landon> That's cool too
[09:07] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I just tried sudo ln -s /home/alex/web/ /var/www/ and I still get the "web" dir in /var/www/
[09:07] <Landon> I'll have to figure out how to do that
[09:07] <goodgerster> Instabin: really? do tell me how you get steam to run properly
[09:07] <Landon> I'm trying to figure out my photoshop
[09:07] <pbureau> isnt being served either but my wife is at work :) (JOKE!!!)
[09:07] <kanaldra1he> Moin!
[09:07] <wolfwalker> My MadTracker runs very well in Wine :)
[09:07] <goodgerster> Landon: use GIMP
[09:07] <Landon> Heh, I do use GIMP
[09:07] <kanaldra1he> I reset the hostname and my machine can't resolve it
[09:07] <Instabin> goodgerster: it ran right once but now it does not work in wine or cedega
[09:07] <TheJosh> London: Photoshop is a pain and a half to get set up.
[09:07] <Landon> But I was a pro at photoshop before I switched to Linux
[09:07] <wolfwalker> The VSTs don't all run in Wine though.............
[09:07] <wolfwalker> Phooey
[09:08] <bronze_0_1> use PhotoGimp
[09:08] <AlexC_> Landon: because you switched to Linux your no longer a Pro ?
[09:08] <goodgerster> AlexC_: swap the /home/alex/web and /var/www around
[09:08] <TheJosh> I got photoshop to work by copying over the files.
[09:08] <shatrat> I think its called Gimpshop
[09:08] <Landon> No, it took me awhile to master GIMP
[09:08] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I've tried, that does nothing
[09:08] <kanaldra1he> Everytime i want to become root with sudo bash i get a `unable to lookup host by gethostbyname
[09:08] <Landon> But I hate the layer system
[09:08] <bronze_0_1> has same menu /command structure as photoshop
[09:08] <krang> Landon: Dude, PS is the one reason I still have a windows box
[09:08] <wolfwalker> |Landon:| you could dual-boot Linux and Windows if you just can't give up photoshop.
[09:08] <wolfwalker> yeah, like krang said
[09:08] <Instabin> ggoodgerster: ill get you the tut if you want though
[09:08] <krang> Landon: Yeah man, the GIMP just doesn't compare.
[09:08] <goodgerster> AlexC_: did you move the files from /var/www to /home/alex/web and then delete /var/www before trying to make the symlink?
[09:08] <kanaldra1he> Do i really have to boot into the system with a cd and reset resolv.conf the hard way?
[09:08] <AlexC_> Landon: same here, I did a poll on Ubuntuforums and like 80% wanted a native linux version :P
[09:08] <Landon> krang: Yeah man, it doesn't
[09:08] <rellik> what's a good bittorrent program (gui) that has nice rss auto-download support?
[09:08] <AlexC_> goodgerster: yers,
[09:08] <Landon> AlexC_: See, I'm not the only one : P
[09:08] <goodgerster> AlexC_: and?
[09:09] <AlexC_> goodgerster: still a no go
[09:09] <Nalleman> Hi all. I want to watch youtube but it seems like my firefox can't start the clips. should I install some plugin to make it work?
[09:09] <kanaldra1he> Loggin in as user seems to be no problem
[09:09] <whazilla> goodgerster:  thats cmd gave me synaptec witch then told me to dist upgrade witch then told me that my apt is in trouble witch i knew
[09:09] <goodgerster> rellik: uTorrent is quite good, but you'll need to use wine for it
[09:09] <pbureau> hehe I have 2 laptops, 1 linux, 1 windows (games and photoshop)
[09:09] <wolfwalker> So, I notice Winblows writes files all over the flipping disk. How do I get all those files over to the left on my disk so I can resize the partition and install a Linux distro there?
[09:09] <bauer77> I prefer bittornado
[09:09] <goodgerster> !flash | Nalleman
[09:09] <ubotu> Nalleman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <AlexC_> Landon: Gimps brush engine is no where near as advanced as Photoshops, no folder layers in Gimp, no heal tool =(
[09:09] <kanaldra1he> Needless to day that i can't start the grapical applications
[09:09] <goodgerster> AlexC_: there is a heal tool in GIMP 2.3
[09:09] <bauer77> its not the best gui, but it gets the job done..
[09:09] <wolfwalker> Windoze defrag doesn't compact the files all in one place as it should.
[09:10] <Landon> AlexC_: And I hate the fonts
[09:10] <whazilla> goodgerster:  thats cmd gave me synaptec witch then told me to dist upgrade witch then told me that my apt is in trouble witch i knew
[09:10] <Landon> I do like the GIMP filters though, they have some cool ones, much better than Photoshop
[09:10] <pbureau> wolfwalker,  look for another defrager on downloads.com should fix that issue
[09:10] <Asl[a] n> does linux have any file-recovery apps for IDE/SATA harddisks?
[09:10] <marek_> when i try to boot xgl i get "No Screens Found"
[09:10] <AlexC_> goodgerster: untill gimps brush engine gets as advanced as Photoshop's I just can't just it for any serious work
[09:10] <goodgerster> whazilla: yes, you said. did it say anything useful about APT?
[09:10] <whazilla> lol
[09:10] <goodgerster> AlexC_: what's wrong with it? it has full pressure and angle sensitivity..
[09:10] <Instabin> goodgerster: Here ya go http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731 thats for counterstrike:source
[09:11] <krang> Landon: really? I never played much with the filters. Couldn't get far past the clunky interface and lack of tools
[09:11] <wolfwalker> |pbureau:| I'm kinda leary of just trying them at random. Nasty stuff can happen when you mess with your disk with an unknown program. Can you make a recommendation?
[09:11] <whazilla> okey sorry but i need to fix apt
[09:11] <AlexC_> goodgerster: being unable to rotate the brush, scatter the brush, change the brush size all dynamically is just some reasons it's not as advanced
[09:11] <goodgerster> whazilla: yes, what did it say?
[09:11] <pbureau> wolf hang on.. I used to use one.... let me chase the name down for you
[09:11] <whazilla> i pastebinned all of it
[09:11] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html >> i tried to no awail
[09:11] <AlexC_> goodgerster: can't add variation to brush size is another
[09:11] <goodgerster> AlexC_: I suggest you have a look at gimp 2.3, it's got some new shizz
[09:11] <whazilla> basicly 404
[09:12] <AlexC_> goodgerster: I'll try it out somepoint,
[09:12] <Asl[a] n> does linux have any file-recovery apps for IDE/SATA harddisks?
[09:12] <Landon> krang: Yeah, once you get over that, it really isn't that bad, it's just the filters KILL me
[09:12] <Landon> Err, layers
[09:12] <Landon> The Layers kill me
[09:12] <Landon> I hate having to hit page up and page down
[09:12] <buffi> hi
[09:12] <AlexC_> morning,
[09:12] <goodgerster> Instabin: I'm more interested in making steam work so that it doesn't overlap everything
[09:12] <mwe> evening
[09:12] <erUSUL> !info photorec
[09:12] <ubotu> Package photorec does not exist in any distro I know
[09:12] <bauer77> is there any way to stream divx, or is it only limited to asf and wmv?
[09:12] <pbureau> wolfwalker,  diskeeper was a good one , free 30 days http://www.diskeeper.com/landing/landing.asp?RId=1046&ad=dk10google&APID=PPS0001292&gclid=CPHZ2dHu-YkCFRnSIgodkhFqPg
[09:13] <LjL> !testdisk | erUSUL, this contains it
[09:13] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[09:13] <Zanarkand> hello everyone, can someone help a newbie here?
[09:13] <krang> Landon: I'd say I'll give the GIMP another try, but I'd be lying :-)
[09:13] <krang> well, must be off. Cya all
[09:13] <goodgerster> Zanarkand: what's the trouble?
[09:13] <whazilla> bauer77:  with xbmc and linux samba shares i stream divx ;)
[09:13] <pbureau> Zanarkand,  ask your question instead of asking if someone can help
[09:13] <whazilla> xbmc == open src ... port it :p
[09:14] <javpnunes> whazzzzuuupp
[09:14] <zoexii> hello, I need window manager advice... I have only 64 MB ram!  Gnome and XFCE are both painfully slow.  All I really want is to run a web browser.
[09:14] <bauer77> thanks whazilla
[09:14] <erUSUL> !testdisk > Asl[a] n
[09:14] <whazilla> whazzaaa
[09:14] <bauer77> pretty self explanatory
[09:14] <Landon> Anyone know where wine puts new stuff at? I just installed PS, but I don't know where the PS exe is
[09:14] <Tomcat_> Landon: ~/.wine
[09:14] <pbureau> Landon,  locate ps.exe
[09:14] <goodgerster> Landon: ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:14] <Zanarkand> sorry, I was just tryng to be friendly, I didn't get much friendliness til this point so.... anyways, I just installed ubuntu on my pc and dont know how to get wine to work on it
[09:14] <Landon> Hahaha, thanks again everyone
[09:14] <LjL> zoexii: for a web browser i would suggest Dillo. as  a WM, well, i'm not really much into that... fluxbox? window maker?
[09:14] <goodgerster> Zanarkand: go to terminal and then type "wine <path to installation executable for windows app>
[09:15] <erUSUL> Zanarkand: 'sudo apt-get install wine' ??
[09:15] <pbureau> what goodgerster  said
[09:15] <Asl[a] n> erUSUL, can ubotu do me a favor by hinting to me an alternative to bind9 that I could use as a name server for the Intranet?
[09:15] <Zanarkand> it's not connected to the internet
[09:15] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: did you try the demo version of Perfectdisk 8 that i suggested earlier today? i ran it & it worked without problem, i've used that to compact & consolidaye my freespace and also used partion magic to free up some empty space ready to install ubuntu
[09:15] <LjL> Asl[a] n: if you just want to have a caching nameserver to speed up lookups in your intranet to Internet hosts, i've used dnsmasq
[09:16] <Zanarkand> see I use bluetooth internet and ubuntu doesnt come with drivers for it so I have to download it on my windows and write it to cd and install it from there
[09:16] <LjL> that's very simple to set up but not altogether powerful
[09:16] <pbureau> Zanarkand,  actually ubuntu has bllutooth software on the cd.
[09:16] <erUSUL> Asl[a] n: i do not know try pming it ;) ( /msg ubotu dns )
[09:17] <Zanarkand> my bluetooth device doesn't use standard drivers
[09:17] <Zanarkand> neither does my cellphone
[09:17] <jpolanco> hi there
[09:17] <AWOSDev7360> Where can I get a comprehensive document about the root user on Ubuntu?
[09:17] <jpolanco> i have a small question..
[09:17] <jpolanco> short one
[09:17] <LjL> !ask
[09:17] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: there is no root user on Ubuntu
[09:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:17] <LjL> Ubotu, tell AWOSDev7360 about root | AWOSDev7360, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:17] <jpolanco> lol
[09:17] <jpolanco> ok
[09:17] <LjL> if that's comprehensive..
[09:17] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: we use "sudo"
[09:17] <jpolanco> what family of processors is a celeron M?
[09:17] <mwe> !root | AWOSDev7360
[09:17] <xerophyte> any cheap linux related content writers here ? if you can write please msg me :)
[09:17] <ubotu> AWOSDev7360: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:17] <pbureau> goodgerster,  actually su works too :)
[09:17] <jpolanco> i'm compiling the kernel..
[09:17] <AWOSDev7360> I run a Samba server so I almost HAVE to have a root user...especially since I am using NT4 member servers
[09:18] <shatrat> jpolanco: its a 386
[09:18] <AWOSDev7360> goodgerster I know that
[09:18] <LjL> pbureau: not without sudo, not by default
[09:18] <jpolanco> not 686?
[09:18] <goodgerster> xerophyte: I've started a blog on it, and can write for you if you wish
[09:18] <buffi> god i cant believe it .i have been havin problems with this comp. i finally fixed some of the problems.
[09:18] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: use sudo -i to get a root prompt
[09:18] <battlesquid> hello i'm trying to install wine, but during ./configure the script fails saying "configure:2486: error: C compiler cannot create executables" i have googled and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37434 suggests updating binutils, but i have the latest binutils installed. i have amd64 ubuntu 6.10
[09:18] <shatrat> jpolanco: well, its a 686 really, but choose 386 if 686 isnt available
[09:18] <LjL> jpolanco: i'd definitely say 686. anyway, cat /proc/cpuinfo i guess
[09:18] <xerophyte> goodgerster, can i msg you
[09:18] <AWOSDev7360> mwe no no no...I have to have root access using a username
[09:18] <shatrat> jpolanco: theres not much difference performance wise
[09:18] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jpolanco about kernel | jpolanco, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:18] <Zanarkand> :/
[09:18] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: wy
[09:18] <pbureau> LjL,  really... I type Su in any terminal window and its asks for the password... oem install ubuntu  I have on this laptop
[09:18] <jpolanco> ok
[09:18] <buffi> please let me know im here
[09:18] <flankk> jpolanco, if you read the help it gives you a list of processors.
[09:18] <jpolanco> thanks a lot =)
[09:18] <LjL> pbureau: oem install is the culprit
[09:19] <AWOSDev7360> jpolanco yeah it would be a 686 (Celeron M)
[09:19] <rublind> What is the difference between Ubuntu 6.10 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[09:19] <goodgerster> xerophyte: I can't msg back, but you can send your MSN, Google Talk or Yahoo name if you wish to talk
[09:19] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rublind about lts | rublind, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:19] <shatrat> pbureau: it asks for the password but it wont work
[09:19] <shatrat> try it
[09:19] <Asl[a] n> LjL, I don't know if bind9 or dnsmasq is what I want. here's the thing- forget about the internet for now. I want it to have a domain- for all the windows machines to be able to join the domain i set up on the linux box.
[09:19] <rublind> LjL thank you.
[09:19] <wolfwalker> |rublind:| The disk partitioner in 6.10 is better, imho
[09:19] <pbureau> shatrat,  well if you say so it does on my pc. /:)
[09:19] <xerophyte> goodgerster, did you get it
[09:19] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: everything in ubuntu can be done without setting a root prompt
[09:19] <mwe> password*
[09:19] <AWOSDev7360> mwe, LjL, goodgerster: to add computers/users to the domain, and login as administrator from a member server/workstation
[09:19] <xerophyte> goodgerster<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:20] <pbureau> heck ubuntu in gnome even has by default a super user terminal window
[09:20] <buffi> hey yell at me
[09:20] <Zanarkand> so theres no way to download wine onto cd and install it from there?
[09:20] <rublind> Are they implying that Ubuntu 6.10 will not be supported for 3 years?
[09:20] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: why would you log in as administrator?
[09:20] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: uhm, are you sure that sort of thing isn't handled by NetBIOS rather than DNS?
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> mwe okay then...tell me how to get my Windows xp workstation to add itself to the samba domain...
[09:20] <battlesquid> does anyone know where to get wine package (the normal is down it seems)
[09:20] <erUSUL> Asl[a] n: you can set up a wins server with samba iirc
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> LjL ?
[09:20] <Vich|Away> ah, it's good to be back
[09:20] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: you can just login as yourself and then use sudo
[09:20] <topgun553> Hey I have dual montior working but the resolution on my laptop montior is off, how do i fix it?
[09:20] <wolfwalker> |shatrat:| When you put in the password it doesn't show asterisks as you type. But the password is still being input. Try it again without looking at the screen as you enter the password.
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> goodgerster on WINDOWS XP?
[09:20] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: samba domain? it works like normal windows domains
[09:20] <wolfwalker> |shatrat:| I had the same problem.
[09:20] <AWOSDev7360> mwe yes I know
[09:20] <goodgerster> AWOSDev7360: ah, good point. Samba
[09:20] <LjL> AWOSDev7360, names or Windows networks are handled by NetBIOS as far as i know, not by DNS
[09:21] <LjL> s/or/on/
[09:21] <Zanarkand> ...
[09:21] <[SilverFox] > whats a good cpu/mem desktop thing for Berly...
[09:21] <wolfwalker> |shatrat:| It's kind of a security measure I think, so onlookers won't even know how many characters are in your password
[09:21] <topgun553> LjL, Hey I have dual montior working but the resolution on my laptop montior is off, how do i fix it?
[09:21] <AWOSDev7360> LjL what?  usernames are handled by the login server
[09:21] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: yes, and names and domains by NetBIOS
[09:21] <pbureau> I have xp and linux on same network and all pcs see each other without any mods.
[09:21] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: i mean, i have a machine called "ljlbox", and i can type "\\ljlbox" from another machine *without* "ljlbox" being anywhere in a DNS record
[09:22] <mwe> pbureau: that's great ;)
[09:22] <buffi> can some one give me some hints.my windows explorer is messin up.PLEASE RESPOND TO ME
[09:22] <topgun553> LjL, Hey I have dual montior working but the resolution on my laptop montior is off, how do i fix it?
[09:22] <AWOSDev7360> buffi...this is a Linux help channel...try ##windows
[09:22] <Amaranth> buffi: Windows Explorer?
[09:22] <wolfwalker> |buffi:| this is not the windows help chat. But I can try to help. What's up?
[09:22] <mwe> buffi: windows explorer? this is linux support
[09:22] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: ah... uh. well yes.
[09:22] <[SilverFox] > whats a good cpu/mem desktop thing for Berly... maybe something in add/remove im lazy lol
[09:22] <AWOSDev7360> LjL :P
[09:22] <LjL> Asl[a] n, see everything i said above to AWOSDev7360 *sigh* ;)
[09:22] <Asl[a] n> lol
[09:22] <AWOSDev7360> hahaha :D
[09:23] <Sa`-> hi, i wanted to edit serverl of files like source.list in my etc\apt\ folders and i cannot because iam not the root. ive tried to log in as root and i wont let me edit this file.
[09:23] <whazilla> goodgerster:  care to have a look at my broken apt ?
[09:23] <pbureau> mwe hey bud,, fixed my dlink wifi  card.. (on it today!)
[09:23] <goodgerster> whazilla: sure, why not
[09:23] <Zanarkand> does anyone know how to write wine onto a cd and install it from there?
[09:23] <mwe> pbureau: great
[09:23] <deafboy> how do you give a program more priority on the cpu?
[09:23] <topgun553> Does ANYONE know how I could change the resolution of my laptop montior from my dual montior
[09:23] <whazilla> http://rafb.net/p/P84xDq57.html >> i tried to no awail
[09:23] <AWOSDev7360> mwe so how do I add my Winxp computer to the domain...without using a root password?
[09:23] <buffi> MY WINDOWS EXPLORER IS CORRUPT,WRONG OR MISSIN?
[09:23] <deafboy> my cpus aren't even maxed out and wow is lagging
[09:23] <LjL> !caps | buffi
[09:23] <ubotu> buffi: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:23] <wolfwalker> |buffi:| go to windows help chat
[09:23] <aoupi> deafboy: man nice
[09:23] <AWOSDev7360> deafboy...sounds like gfx card
[09:23] <whazilla> goodgerster:  u got that otherwise i prefer pm ?
[09:23] <erUSUL> buffi: do you mean the file explorer?
[09:24] <wolfwalker> |buffi:| type /join ##Windows
[09:24] <AWOSDev7360> buffi type  /join ##windows
[09:24] <LjL> topgun553, all i know about it really is dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserverx-org to be honest, and i haven't tried dual monitor yet
[09:24] <goodgerster> buffi: this is for Ubuntu GNU/Linux.
[09:24] <AWOSDev7360> wow wolfwarker we think the same way :P
[09:24] <deafboy> aoupi: man nice?
[09:24] <Sa`-> hi, i wanted to edit serverl of files like source.list in my etc\apt\ folders and i cannot because iam not the root. ive tried to log in as root and i wont let me edit this file.
[09:24] <aoupi> deafboy: enter that in a terminal
[09:24] <goodgerster> whazilla: wait a minute, I'm busy currently (as indicated by my "away" status)
[09:24] <whazilla> oopsie
[09:24] <whazilla> laters ;)
[09:24] <whazilla> pm me
[09:24] <deafboy> AWOSDev7360: i have an x1600 with 256 mb of ram :) I'm just running amarok/xchat/wine+wow
[09:24] <HymnToLife> !sudo | Sa`-
[09:24] <ubotu> Sa`-: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root").   Period.
[09:25] <Sa`-> ive tire sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[09:25] <Sa`-> and it said E:\ emerald cannot find
[09:25] <RedShift> ubotu: O RLY
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about O RLY - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <LjL> topgun553: no, but i'd guessed that ;) i suppose that if both monitors are using the same xorg.conf, that could be the culprit... but that's quite a generic statement
[09:25] <Zanarkand> .....
[09:25] <LjL> RedShift: tone down
[09:25] <deafboy> anyone know why wow would lag with only amarok/wow+wine/xchat open?
[09:25] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : if you are too lazy to type a few commands to install Beryl ... then I'm sorry but good luck to anything =)
[09:26] <Zanarkand> T_T
[09:26] <[SilverFox] > Alex!! i installed it
[09:26] <RedShift> LjL: yeah I was just trolling
[09:26] <Sa`-> another help plz. ive tired sudo apt-get install emerald-themes and it said E:\ emerald cannot find
[09:26] <mwe> Sa`-: you probablly didn't add the right repos according to the wiki
[09:26] <[SilverFox] > im looking for a cpu thingy
[09:26] <Sa`-> ammm
[09:26] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : Conky,
[09:26] <Cyrus25801> is there a good wine tut
[09:26] <[SilverFox] > u know cool cpu/mem dashboards
[09:26] <Nalleman> im about to download adobe flash player but im not sure what file i should pick. there are 2 files with ends tar.bz and .rpm. witch should I pick?
[09:26] <Sa`-> i need to add deb things
[09:26] <HymnToLife> deafboy, get more RAM
[09:26] <topgun553> LjL, well I have got a couple problems fixed (sort of) but my friends are telling me (and girlfriend) to give up and go back to windows because I am spending too much time trying to get linux to work.
[09:26] <Zanarkand> [SilverFox]  you'll find it in your chasis, lol
[09:26] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Sa`- about repos | Sa`-, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:26] <Sa`-> and i cannot edit sources.list
[09:26] <LjL> sa`-: i guess so
[09:26] <aoupi> Nalleman: get the .tar.bz
[09:26] <AlexC_> [SilverFox] : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865&highlight=conky
[09:27] <Asl[a] n> LjL, thanks for that advice. I see where you are going with this. I have no problems seeing one machine on the network fro anther. but i really want is for it to be able to see or login to a machine when i type something like ljlbox.ubuntu.edu - or another machine like tests.ubuntu.edu
[09:27] <buffi> hey erUSUL thank u
[09:27] <Sa`-> how do i edit files with sudo?
[09:27] <[SilverFox] > ty
[09:27] <AlexC_> Sa`-: sudo gedit /path/to/file
[09:27] <HymnToLife> Sa`-, sudo nano /path/to/file
[09:27] <Zanarkand> TobiF, I think I agree
[09:27] <aoupi> Nalleman: well, it is problably called .tar.gz but still :)
[09:27] <deafboy> HymnToLife: i have 2 gigs
[09:27] <Jowi> topgun553, no worries. they will thank you later
[09:27] <rebz> what packages do i need to install to compile generic c files?
[09:27] <Sa`-> 10x
[09:27] <juano__> Nalleman: you can download the rpm and use alien to convert to .deb
[09:27] <rebz> i installed gcc already
[09:27] <AlexC_> or gksudo
[09:27] <deafboy> HymnToLife: I'm not even close to maxed out with ram
[09:27] <Sa`-> thanks you very much
[09:27] <Zanarkand> I don't even know what to do..... :/
[09:27] <Sa`-> what cliend should i get for mirc in ubuntu?
[09:27] <AWOSDev7360> I've always wondered...why is help.ubuntu.com secure????
[09:28] <LjL> Asl[a] n, i really believe you can do that by using NetBIOS alone... still anyway, a DNS server will work too. but i don't know about one geared towards that kind of thing (although i believe almost all of them will somehow *allow* it)
[09:28] <HymnToLife> rebz, build-essential
[09:28] <function1> anyone else getting 403 errors on some libc updates?
[09:28] <AWOSDev7360> Sa`- try Gaim or maybe Konversation for KDE
[09:28] <AlexC_> Sa` you mean IRC. mIRC is a Windows IRC Client
[09:28] <Sa`-> yeah
[09:28] <AlexC_> Sa`-: xchat is what most use
[09:28] <HymnToLife> Sa`-, xchat (GUI) or irssi (command line)
[09:28] <Sa`-> i meant a client
[09:28] <juano__> Nalleman: try sudo apt-get install alien , then download the rpm file, then do sudo alien -d myrpmfile.rpm , then just install the deb file
[09:28] <Sa`-> and a C compiler?
[09:28] <AWOSDev7360> Sa`- gcc
[09:28] <MrElendig> AWOSDev7360: so that noone shal hax it and tell you to do a sudo rm -rf /
[09:28] <AlexC_> AWOSDev7360: beat me to it :P
[09:28] <rm_you> How large (disk space) would a complete mirror of Ubuntu be? I'm talking about a mirror like would be put on the canonical mirrors page... Also, is there a process for applying to be an official mirror?
[09:28] <mwe> Sa`-: build essential. includels gcc
[09:28] <deafboy> what is the syntax to use nice with wine?
[09:28] <LjL> !maradns | Asl[a] n, look at the apt-cache show description for this one, sounds interesting
[09:28] <Sa`-> sudu apt-get install gcc?
[09:28] <ubotu> maradns: Simple security-aware Domain Name Service server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.10-1 (edgy), package size 449 kB, installed size 1108 kB
[09:28] <buffi> hey wolf walker thanks ill try
[09:28] <AlexC_> deafboy: "wine path/to/file.exe"
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> Sa`- type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" on a terminal
[09:29] <AlexC_> How can I link the contents of /home/alex/web to /var/www
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> MrElendig what?
[09:29] <Sa`-> thanks
[09:29] <Asl[a] n> LjL, yeah, let me try that
[09:29] <deafboy> AlexC_: does nice go after that?
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> ohhhh
[09:29] <AWOSDev7360> MrElendig oh I get it now :P
[09:29] <mwe> deafboy: using nice probably wont give you much of a gain
[09:29] <HymnToLife> AlexC_, does /var/www already exist ?
[09:29] <AlexC_> HymnToLife: yep
[09:29] <AlexC_> deafboy: I have no idea what Nice is
[09:29] <HymnToLife> then delete it first
[09:30] <mwe> deafboy: nice -n X wine blah
[09:30] <Zanarkand> I guess I'll just have to format and go back to my pirated version of windows- HARG!~
[09:30] <HymnToLife> then sudo ln -s /home/alex/web /var/www
[09:30] <bronze_0_1> AlexC_:  scheduling command
[09:30] <archonel> hi what is the correct packet name for php-curl to get it with apt ?
[09:30] <mwe> deafboy: I doubt it will help, though
[09:30] <bronze_0_1>  changes priority job runs at
[09:30] <Toth> any reccomendations on a firewall package? I have been using ubuntu for a while, and i know some things about networking, but I'm not exactly an expert, and I've never configured a firewall from scratch before
[09:30] <HymnToLife> !firewall | Toth
[09:30] <ubotu> Toth: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:30] <mwe> Toth: firestarter
[09:30] <ublender> let me just say, with sincerity: WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
[09:31] <archonel> any hints ?
[09:31] <mwe> Toth: firestarter is a nice front end to iptables, one of the most secure firewalls around
[09:31] <ublender> sorry for the spam there, but after over 3 weeks trying to get a compy to work, I believe I deserve to day that...
[09:31] <mwe> Toth: you don't need it unless you run a listening service, though
[09:31] <ublender> say*
[09:31] <aoupi> ublender: of course :)
[09:31] <Sa`-> and where can i get amsn client that support microfone and other features
[09:31] <Sa`-> '
[09:32] <capi_> anyone know how to remove logos from avi dvds? What program?
[09:32] <mwe> Toth: and in many cases if you run a listening service you don't want to filter it
[09:32] <AlexC_> Sa`-: you can use Synaptic, or in terminal type "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[09:32] <Sa`-> thanks
[09:32] <Sa`-> and how i reinstall things?
[09:32] <ublender> aoupi: and god, all this time I thought it was Ubuntu's fault, and I've been coming here for help, to no avail. (segfaults on every app)
[09:32] <Sa`-> unistall
[09:32] <AlexC_> Sa`-:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall package
[09:32] <Toth> mwe: ok thanks
[09:32] <AlexC_> sa` sudo apt-get remove pacakge
[09:32] <MrElendig> Sa`-: man apt-get
[09:33] <Zanarkand> capi_ that's pretty much imporrible
[09:33] <Sa`-> and when iam using the add/remove tool its the same?
[09:33] <capi_> Sa`-, dpkg-reconfigure <pakage> normally works or
[09:33] <Zanarkand> unless it's in an area of that dvd that doesn't cover the picture
[09:33] <Zanarkand> impossible*
[09:33] <AWOSDev7360> Okay I read the RootSudo thing on the Wiki.  So I make a root password.  and the want to make it back the way it was...I just do "sudo passwd -l root"?  and then it's back to the default Ubuntu freaky root thingy?
[09:33] <Sa`-> and when iam using the add/remove tool its the same?
[09:34] <aoupi> ublender: I got that too once, totaly my fault (tried to compile my own version of glibc :( )
[09:34] <AlexC_> Sa`-: nah, the GUI programs like Synaptic should do all that for you
[09:34] <capi_> Zanarkand, there is a DeLogo program for windows, that apparently blends away the logo. I realize you can't just turn it off.
[09:34] <MrElendig> Sa`-: synaptics is just a frontend for apt-get
[09:34] <LjL> AWOSDev7360, guess so, but i suggest you just leave it the way it is by default. if you need to *stay* root for a while, you can simply use "sudo -i", that's as easy as it gets
[09:34] <Sa`-> thank you guys
[09:34] <Sa`-> sorry for my noobish questions
[09:34] <mwe> Sa`-: in most cases you don't reinstall things. you fix them instead
[09:34] <blue-frog> AWOSDev7360: sudp passwd -d will make it the way it was
[09:34] <AlexC_> Sa`-: it's just easier for us to say "sudo apt-get install program" than say "Go to System->admin->Synaptic then click Serach then type in program then type goto Apply"
[09:35] <AWOSDev7360> blue-frog okay...so I think you need to change the wiki
[09:35] <redspotted> nas
[09:35] <MrElendig> Sa`-: if you need some info about a command do man <command> and info <command>
[09:35] <blue-frog> AWOSDev7360: passwd -l disable it -d delete the pwd.. man passwd
[09:35] <Sa`-> oki
[09:35] <Sa`-> very thanks
[09:35] <LjL> blue-frog, (and AWOSDev7360): NO, not at all
[09:35] <ublender> aoupi: simply reducing my FSB on my proc fro 200 to 133 finally fixed it
[09:35] <AWOSDev7360> LjL that's what I thought... :P
[09:35] <LjL> blue-frog: "-d" will give the account *NO PASSWORD*, meaning everybody will be able to enter
[09:35] <ublender> aoupi: now I wonder how much that might hinder my performance
[09:35] <LjL> blue-frog: please don't suggest that
[09:36] <AWOSDev7360> LjL oh geez...oh Lord have mercy on my computer's soul!
[09:36] <aoupi> ublender: well, since you got segfaults before I'd guess you have infinitly better performance now :)
[09:36] <blue-frog> LjL: please learn...
[09:36] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: what's described in the howto is correct
[09:36] <LjL> blue-frog: what?
[09:36] <ublender> aoupi: lol good point, at least I can play games now!
[09:36] <LjL> AWOSDev7360: at any rate, just using sudo really works fine if you can take my word for it
[09:36] <Cyrus25801> cane a person (or animal) run any windows app on linux
[09:36] <mwe> passwd -d will not disable the password.
[09:36] <guilherme_jorge> hello all, I've updated my ubuntu to edgy, but now I doesnt get access to http://www.gmail.com. When I try to access this site I get the following error:  Unexpected response from server  \n  Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server.   \n    Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager
[09:37] <guilherme_jorge>     installed.    \n   This might be due to a non-standard configuration on the server.   Any idea?
[09:37] <blue-frog> mwe: correct it deletes it
[09:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Cyrus25801 about wine | Cyrus25801, see the private message from Ubotu
[09:37] <aoupi> Cyrus25801: It has been proven very dificult for cats to use ubuntu
[09:37] <AWOSDev7360> Cyrus25801 with WINE most Windows apps run
[09:37] <rellik> I thought the question is how to get back to the default sudo-only access if you already gave root a passwd
[09:37] <Cyrus25801> thanx guys
[09:37] <mwe> blue-frog: stupid idea
[09:37] <AWOSDev7360> aoupi, naw not really...it's just the paws make it hard to type...and the cats eat the mouse :P
[09:38] <b14ck> hi
[09:38] <blue-frog> mwe: ubnutu dev are going to be happy as it is the way by default...
[09:38] <b14ck> um.. im having huge problems with ubuntu
[09:38] <ublender> !wine | Cyrus25801
[09:38] <AlexC_> my cat sits on my keyboard, so if he sits in such a way to type "wine file.exe" then yeah he could open it up :P
[09:38] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:38] <AWOSDev7360> AlexC_ haha
[09:38] <Cyrus25801> aoupi: I have seen that dogs and apes alike come right better with ubuntu than some of their human counter parts
[09:38] <mwe> blue-frog: did you know it will disable login for the user?
[09:38] <Cyrus25801> thanx guys
[09:38] <b14ck> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (dual boot with windows), and everything works fine after the install. but then, once i get to the first real boot up (after i've updated all the packages), the computer no longer boots... ubuntu hangs
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> Wowowowow.  didn't even notice LjL was a +o
[09:39] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: but isn't Ubuntu Linux for Humans? We'll ne an Anubuntu - Linux for Animals
[09:39] <aoupi> Cyrus25801: ah yes, the dog support was greatly improved in edgy
[09:39] <mwe> LjL: thanks. he was annoying
[09:39] <mick666> hello everybodies
[09:39] <AlexC_> morning,
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> aoupi really?  shoot...I need to upgrade then :P
[09:39] <mwe> AlexC_: evening
[09:39] <LjL> mwe: he surely needs to talk a little
[09:39] <mwe> heh
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> maybe I can get my Dalmatian to type 25cwpm!
[09:39] <Cyrus25801> I'm glad you guys have such a great sence of humour
[09:39] <AWOSDev7360> anyways...
[09:40] <b14ck> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (dual boot with windows), and everything works fine after the install. but then, once i get to the first real boot up (after i've updated all the packages), the computer no longer boots... ubuntu hangs . anyone know how to fix this?
[09:40] <AWOSDev7360> I know I shouldn't set a root password, but Samba requires it.
[09:40] <AWOSDev7360> oh yeah Cyrus25801, we're a hoot
[09:40] <cbx33> hey guys need to do a nice diagram to show how LTSP works, what package shoudl I use?
[09:40] <AlexC_> cbx33: Paint in Wine of course!! hehe ... j/k
[09:40] <mwe> b14ck: you probably need to me more specific
[09:40] <AWOSDev7360> cbx33 if you have Visio I believe WINE can run it
[09:40] <violot> soccer5555_,  hello
[09:40] <cbx33> AWOSDev7360, no i dont
[09:40] <cbx33> but that's the kinda diagram I need
[09:41] <violot> soccer5555_, ask your question
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> cbx33 well I do...should I draw it for you?
[09:41] <cbx33> we don;t have a nice opensource alternative?
[09:41] <b14ck> mwe, 1 minute i'll paste the exact bootup error
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> not that I know how LTSP works
[09:41] <cbx33> AWOSDev7360, really?
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> :P
[09:41] <cbx33> you'd do that?
[09:41] <cbx33> if I send you a sketch
[09:41] <AlexC_> AWOSDev7360: this connects to that, and that connects to this ... turn it on and BOOM!
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> really, I would, if I can find my Visio CD
[09:41] <erabbit> what is xwindow's configuration utility for brightness and contrast?  my monitor is maxed and not yet correct, and the fireglcontrol (ati driver config) doesnt handle brightness/contrast.
[09:41] <mwe> b14ck: not in the channel
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> AlecX_ hehe
[09:41] <soccer5555_> im having a problem setting up the wireless network with my ubuntu edgy
[09:41] <mwe> !paste | b14ck
[09:41] <ubotu> b14ck: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <AWOSDev7360> AlexC_ hehe
[09:41] <cbx33> AWOSDev7360, if you can find it and let me know that'd be awesome
[09:42] <AWOSDev7360> hmm...I'm trying to remember the system requirements...
[09:42] <b14ck> EXACT BOOTUP ERROR: "* Mounting local filesystems... * Configuring network interfaces... [time]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[09:42] <cbx33> heheh
[09:42] <cbx33> i wonder is there a trai lpacakge I could use in a vm
[09:42] <AWOSDev7360> b14ck wow...soft lockup...as an OS developer, that scares me
[09:42] <cbx33> i have an XP vm
[09:42] <b14ck> What the hell is a 'soft lockup'?
[09:42] <mwe> b14ck: sounds bad
[09:42] <b14ck> This is the 2nd time I've installed ubuntu and this has happened.
[09:43] <b14ck> 2nd time in a row
[09:43] <f> hi
[09:43] <b14ck> The first time I thought it was me...
[09:43] <f> i have some problem with radius
[09:43] <f> it autenticat users only locally
[09:43] <AlexC_> b14ck: the first time you thought it was you that soft locked up?
[09:43] <b14ck> The first time I thought I may have done something wrong.
[09:43] <b14ck> Maybe I powered it down too early
[09:43] <AlexC_> ah, my mistake =)
[09:43] <b14ck> But nope..
[09:44] <b14ck> Can someone tell me what softlockup means? Does this mean it's time to install another distro?
[09:44] <jareth_> bl4ck : http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/kernel-lockup.htm
[09:44] <AWOSDev7360> b14ck soft lockup...doesn't that mean the CPU executed HLT while STIed?
[09:45] <b14ck> AWOSDev7360, I have no idea.....
[09:45] <b14ck> AWOSDev7360 i"m using an intel duo core 2.16GHz
[09:45] <Jowi> b14ck, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/64125
[09:45] <b14ck> if that makes a difference
[09:45] <Asl[a] n> LjL, btw, i think that dnsmasq thingamajig could work- wonder how it'd cope with a local mail server for the intranet
[09:45] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: i have just purchaced a canon ip5200 but there aren't linux driver for it. any advise
[09:46] <pestilence> is ubuntu's nfs client (in edgy) patched to try and use unprivileged ports?
[09:46] <pbureau> bl4ck, goto cmos and turn dual core off
[09:46] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: hello - why not ask the question to others aswell?
[09:46] <pestilence> i'm getting mount refused by a debian stable server, and the reason it gives is "illegal port"
[09:46] <lupine_85> Cyrus25801: www.turboprint.de
[09:46] <lupine_85> or take it back
[09:46] <Jowi> b14ck, also here http://bughost.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1096 seems to be the ipw3945 wireless driver
[09:46] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: what you could do is just pick a random canon driver untill one works, sometimes it will work
[09:46] <pbureau> bl4ck, goto cmos and turn dual core off
[09:46] <b14ck> hey Jowi... that link you gave me said that I shoould execute some commands, but I don't know how to do that since I can't boot up
[09:47] <b14ck> turn dual core off??? wont that reduce the processing power significantly...
[09:47] <NthDegree> O_O
[09:47] <Cyrus25801> lupine_85: i have that but to use full capabilities you need to pay. and i dont ever pay for software
[09:47] <Jowi> b14ck, better to disable that module if you're not using that wireless card
[09:47] <AlexC_> turn dual core off???
[09:47] <Cyrus25801> lupine_85: but thanx anyways
[09:47] <b14ck> Jowi, how do I disable it though..
[09:47] <NthDegree> pbureau, are you 100% insane?
[09:48] <AlexC_> I didn't even think it was possible to turn dual core off?
[09:48] <Cyrus25801> would a person be able to use wil and install drivers for the software that you are running on wine
[09:48] <gecko_> hey can sum1 explain to me updating from Edgy to Fiesty? i tried changing the sources.list and it said it wanted me to upgrade to 6.10..but thats what i have?
[09:48] <b14ck> and also... jowi, i would like to use my wireless card (eventualy), would it still be possible?
[09:49] <Cyrus25801> would a person be able to use wine and install drivers for the software that you are running on wine
[09:49] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: pick a random canon drive, until one works - may not be best solution, but it works
[09:49] <Cyrus25801> by drivers i mean printer drivers
[09:50] <AWOSDev7360> ooh.  Fiesty Fawn.  dang I need to get my laptop backed up and use it
[09:50] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: do you know how long it is going to take to go through the entire list
[09:50] <Jowi> b14ck, boot into the live cd. open a terminal. type "sudo -i". mount your ubuntu root partition. "nano /directory/whereyoumounted/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and add a line that says "blacklist ipw3945"
[09:50] <AWOSDev7360> I wanna get the uber-cool uber-beta developer's beta edition!  :P
[09:50] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: ther surly must be a better way
[09:50] <LjL> Asl[a] n: dunno, i know that dnsmasq also comes with a dhcp server as a bonus. however it's really more geared towards serving DNS records taken from *Internet* nameservers, so that things are cached and get faster, more than for making your own DNS records
[09:50] <gecko_> AWOSDev: its still in devel. its not a final release
[09:50] <b14ck> jowi, wkll i still be able to use my wireless card though?
[09:50] <AlexC_> Cyrus25801: that's because your expecting the last one to work - if you think that, then why not start from the bottom? Then it would only take a very short while
[09:50] <Jowi> b14ck, not if you blacklist it, no
[09:51] <niktaris> Hi, does anyone know why I can't browse an smb network from gnome ?
[09:51] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: heh
[09:51] <Cyrus25801> AlexC_: very clever.maybe i'll start in the middle
[09:51] <b14ck> jowi... i'm on a laptop and i want to use my wireless card though.
[09:51] <niktaris> Is there a bug in gnome-vfs or something ?
[09:51] <AlexC_> niktaris: yes, of course there is
[09:51] <AlexC_> nothing is bug free
[09:52] <mwe> AWOSDev7360: when you have it installed, get the next version, Crafty Creep.
[09:52] <Jowi> b14ck, no idea how to solve that dilemma unfortunatley. I do not have this hardware and its the first time I've seen the bug. just pointing you in a possible direction :)
[09:52] <niktaris> AlexC_, there is ?
[09:53] <AlexC_> niktaris: if nothing is bug free, then gnome-vfs has bugs.....
[09:53] <niktaris> AlexC_, haha yes
[09:53] <Badm4n> sorry this is maybe oot but maybe 1 of you can tell me where i can get free client management like clientexec ( but not phpcoins )
[09:53] <mwe> how do they come with those code names? I guess they're drunk when they do.
[09:53] <niktaris> AlexC_, but I was talking about browsing a windows network
[09:53] <AlexC_> niktaris: you never asked that :P
[09:53] <aoupi> has anyone used X11 forwarding over SSH on a 10Mbit connection? if soo was it usable or too slow?
[09:54] <niktaris> AlexC_, I did
[09:54] <niktaris> Hi, does anyone know why I can't browse an smb network from gnome ?
[09:54] <Tomcat_> mwe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28name%29
[09:54] <mwe> aoupi: I have. it was usuable but not impressing
[09:54] <AlexC_> niktaris: "Is there a bug in gnome-vfs or something" you asked is there a bug in it :P
[09:54] <aoupi> mwe: darn...
[09:54] <rellik> I got twinview working, except that programs maximize across both screens..  any idea how to fix that?  from my searching, it seems to have something to do with xinerama..  but I can't seem to get the options right..
[09:54] <AlexC_> niktaris: sorry, I never saw the other line above lol
[09:55] <niktaris> AlexC_, ok
[09:55] <mwe> Tomcat_: it still looks stoned to me
[09:55] <mwe> Tomcat_: breezy badger, hoary hedgehog, dapper drake. stoned
[09:56] <aalhamad> hi i have problem with my bittorent .. itd my first time to use it and i dont see anything is downloaded..anybody can help?
[09:56] <AlexC_> mwe: Edgy Eft, Feisty Fawn
[09:56] <mwe> AlexC_: even more stoned ;)
[09:56] <AlexC_> mwe: I like the names, they sound cool
[09:56] <mwe> AlexC_: I see ;)
[09:57] <AlexC_> mwe: there all an animal prefixed with a special word I can't think off cos I didn't pay much attention in english class :P
[09:57] <Jowi> b14ck, according to this page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 a fix has been released for kernel source 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 (not for 2.6.17 yet)
[09:57] <aoupi> aalhamad: have you opened a port for bittorrent?
[09:57] <deadhobo> Hello, I have a laptop and I can't seem to get it to recognize my modular harddrive...
[09:57] <mwe> AlexC_: the numbering. 5.10 etc. makes sense
[09:57] <aalhamad> how can i do that?
[09:57] <AlexC_> mwe: code names never do,
[09:57] <aalhamad> aoupi?
[09:57] <aoupi> aalhamad: do you have a router?
[09:58] <mwe> AlexC_: I know. I'm still convinced they get drun at a party to come up with the names ;)
[09:58] <aalhamad> ok.. its just started..
[09:58] <nn> I get weird error mounting my /home: root@dungeon:/ # mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/  gives mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /mnt/ busy
[09:58] <nn> Neither true
[09:58] <AlexC_> mwe: probably!
[09:58] <mwe> AlexC_: drunk*
[09:58] <aalhamad> thaks i fixed it .. for now maybe..
[09:58] <aalhamad> thanks aoupi :)
[09:58] <aoupi> aalhamad: ok, dont forget to seed :)
[09:58] <jeffery_> how do I down-grade a package and its dependencies ?
[09:58] <deadhobo> I tried rebooting multiple times, and swapping the drive with a DVD burner, the burner reads, but the harddrive still dosn't exist as far as ubuntu is concerned
[09:58] <aalhamad> seed?
[09:58] <mwe> AlexC_: it's at least better than something like 'Vista' or 'Longhorn'
[09:58] <AlexC_> mwe: sure is!
[09:59] <lynucs> aalhamad, itmeans to share
[09:59] <aoupi> aalhamad: when your download has finnished you still share the file with other people who are trying to download it, soo keep your client running
[09:59] <mwe> AlexC_: and debian is using names from south park. geez
[09:59] <mwe> ;)
[10:00] <AlexC_> mwe:  really?
[10:00] <aoupi> mwe: debian has names?
[10:00] <lynucs> deadhobo, your haddisk isn't mounting?
[10:00] <Cyrus25801> mwe: anything is better that microcrap i mean soft
[10:00] <nn> My partitions wont mount :)
[10:00] <mwe> AlexC_: yeah. sid is the naughty boy
[10:00] <AlexC_> mwe: I've never seen a "stable" or "expiremental" in south park :P
[10:00] <nn> i get busy or in use
[10:00] <nn> which is NOT the case
[10:00] <deadhobo> lynucs, yeah, I can't find it in nautilus
[10:00] <aoupi> AlexC_: my thoughts exactly
[10:00] <mwe> AlexC_: that's why they use sid for the unstable
[10:00] <lynucs> deadhobo, is is an usb device?
[10:01] <AlexC_> mwe: you mean like Sarge?
[10:01] <deadhobo> lynucs, no, its a modular bay... some custom connecter that adapts to the standard laptop drive plug
[10:01] <kalosaurusrex> hey AlexC_ :)
[10:01] <mwe> AlexC_: nah. sid. sarge is stable I think
[10:01] <AlexC_> kalosaurusrex: hey hey!
[10:01] <mwe> AlexC_: sid is never going to be stable
[10:01] <lynucs> deadhobo, is it a hotplug device?
[10:01] <rellik> is there any big difference between xinerama and twinview, as far as performance and features go?
[10:01] <AlexC_> mwe: ahh :P
[10:01] <deadhobo> lynucs: I believe so, I've tried it cold to no luck either tho :/
[10:02] <erabbit> with XF86Config no longer an option and ATI not providing the option in their control panel - where can i modify xorg's brightness/contrast settings?  i see a bunch of posts to the ubuntu forums about this, but no answers. any help appreciated.
[10:02] <aalhamad> i have a file which is xiped to .chm .. how can i open it?
[10:02] <lynucs> deadhobo, does dmesg says anything if you connect the drive?
[10:02] <violot> Does edgy come with wconfig?
[10:02] <aalhamad> xiped=ziped
[10:02] <nn> is there a way to tell apt-get i NEVER want to allow -any- X crap installed?
[10:02] <mwe> erabbit: Personally I use the monitors settings
[10:03] <mwe> nn: I think not ;) what do you need to do?
[10:03] <deadhobo> lynucs, where do I see dmesg? I'm kinda a novice, sorry :/
[10:03] <erabbit> mwe: mine is maxed out to the lowest brightness setting on the monitor, but is still /very/ bright
[10:03] <mwe> erabbit: oh
[10:03] <nn> mwe: i want to prevent anything X related and lib64 stuff from being installed
[10:03] <aoupi> aalhamad: install gnochm
[10:03] <lynucs> deadhobo, type dmesg into console, then connect your drive and type dmesg again.. see the differences
[10:03] <mwe> nn: I don't think there is a setting for that
[10:03] <aalhamad> thanks
[10:03] <nn> i want nothing to do with X
[10:03] <aalhamad> and rar?
[10:04] <mwe> erabbit: I wish I knew how to do it
[10:04] <deadhobo> lynucs, Ok, one second, thanks
[10:04] <aoupi> aalhamad: I think you can just double click them
[10:04] <mwe> nn: look at what things want to install before you commit ?
[10:04] <fbis> hi guys
[10:04] <aalhamad> ok..
[10:04] <aalhamad> thanks
[10:04] <fbis> i've been a bad bat and broke something on ubuntu!
[10:04] <erabbit> mwe: k thanks
[10:05] <nn> mwe: yea, tho i prefer what bts had :)
[10:05] <deadhobo> lynucs, its pretty huge, I'm worried I'll miss something if anything changes... is there a specific section I should look for?
[10:05] <lynucs> at the bottom :D
[10:05] <deadhobo> lol k :)
[10:05] <lynucs> something like sda1 or hda1 there?
[10:05] <nn> disallow trove:X11,arch:ia64
[10:05] <mwe> erabbit: I've heard the question before but didn't see a good solutions
[10:05] <nn> err
[10:05] <fbis> At some point during installation I was asked what priority to run X under. It said default was 0, -10 being the best I meant to enter -2 but entered 2 by mistake and now X is slow
[10:05] <nn> disallow trove:X11 || arch:ia64
[10:05] <mwe> solution*
[10:05] <fbis> any idea how to set it back to 0?
[10:06] <nn> would be nice :)
[10:06] <deadhobo> lynucs,  Ok, I just unplugged it and the last message is psmouse.c issuing reconnect request
[10:06] <aoupi> hm.. my cd-drive isn't responding, is there anyway to tell if it is plugged in without opening up the case?
[10:06] <aoupi> I have no /dev/hdc
[10:06] <lynucs> hmm anything above containg hada or sda?
[10:06] <deadhobo> lynucs, I plugged it back in and nothing changed in dmesg
[10:06] <lynucs> hda or sda
[10:06] <MrElendig> aoupi: restart  and chack in hte bios
[10:06] <fbis> does it show up in the bios aoupi?
[10:06] <aoupi> fbis: no :)
[10:06] <jobo> bha, I still cannot get my internet connection up when using public static ip. A ifup takes 20-30 seconds. I don't get any messages about that it fails but it doesn't work. I'm 100% sure my ip, gw and netmask settings are correct. If I comment out gateway in /etc/network/interfaces ifup completes as fast as it's expected to.
[10:07] <lynucs> deadhobo, did you type dmesg again after connecting?
[10:07] <aoupi> but the bios doesn't find anything
[10:07] <deadhobo> lynucs, yes :P
[10:07] <Geoffrey2> I have three updates that won't download, libc6, libc6-dev. amd libc6-i686....all three produce 403 Forbidden errors...is that a goof on my end, or is something borked in the repository?
[10:07] <aoupi> fbis: it doesn't find my keyboard nor 2 of my HD's
[10:07] <fbis> then its dead or not plugged in and your gonna have to take the case off ;)
[10:07] <lynucs> deadhobo, that is bad
[10:07] <fbis> sounds sick aoupi
[10:07] <aoupi> fbis: can I boot a .iso cd without burning it? :)
[10:07] <jobo> I checked the dmesg ge nad found "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[10:07] <deadhobo> ught oh
[10:07] <pike_> "xgamma -rgamma 4" <-- will make monitor output a little prettier
[10:07] <fbis> err no!
[10:08] <lynucs> deadhobo, it means the system can't notice any device
[10:08] <nn> wtf
[10:08] <aoupi> fbis: I mean, tell grub to load the .iso file in some way
[10:08] <deadhobo> lynucs, :/ I know the drive worked a few months ago w/ windows...
[10:08] <jobo> and also something about no IPv6 routers present
[10:08] <Rizon> hello
[10:08] <fbis> Does your cd drive work in windows?
[10:08] <aoupi> fbis: hahahhahahahaha
[10:08] <deadhobo> lynucs, I'll try switching it to the cddrive and running dmesg again
[10:08] <lynucs> deadhobo, wait
[10:09] <aoupi> fbis: havn't ran windows in my whole life
[10:09] <Atomix> i need help
[10:09] <MrElendig> aoupi: you can dd the iso to a partion, then add that partion to grub
[10:09] <fbis> sounds like you need a hardware tech
[10:09] <lynucs> deadhobo, you connect the cddrive to the same slot and it works?
[10:09] <deadhobo> lynucs, ok, what do you reccomend?
[10:09] <deadhobo> whoops
[10:09] <jobo> so, what could be the reason for ifup to take 20seconds to complete?
[10:09] <aoupi> MrElendig: that sounds fun, I'll use my swap partition, that isn't in use anyway
[10:09] <deadhobo> yeah, thats what I was going to try right now
[10:09] <Atomix> I am through with ubuntu,  just got my windows cd, but i dunno how to run it
[10:09] <deadhobo> lynucs, it worked last reboot with the cd drive
[10:09] <fbis> At some point during installation I was asked what priority to run X under. It said default was 0, -10 being the best I meant to enter -2 but entered 2 by mistake and now X is slow
[10:10] <lynucs> deadhobo, that myterious :D
[10:10] <fbis> anyone know what this setting is called?
[10:10] <MrElendig> better do a swapoff first...
[10:10] <LjL> fbis: no, but i'll try to find it, hold on
[10:10] <mwe> fbis: using 2 as priority probably isn't the problem
[10:10] <aoupi> MrElendig: :)
[10:10] <lynucs> deadhobo, i mean if the slot is recognized propoerly and cddrive works, then dmesg should bring anything
[10:11] <fbis> was fine under 0 mwe :)
[10:11] <M3G4crux> hi
[10:11] <mwe> fbis: oh. I'll shut up then ;)
[10:11] <Byan> what's the best pdf viewer?
[10:11] <pollywog> acroread
[10:11] <pollywog> imo
[10:11] <deadhobo> lynucs, yeah :/
[10:11] <fbis> i kept getting a device error so I ran dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg -all and wished I hadn't :)
[10:12] <fbis> being a nweb and all
[10:12] <lynucs> deadhobo, or the slot isnt ment to be a hotplug slot? :)
[10:12] <Atomix> so i keep getting an error when i try to install windows,  anyone have any help?
[10:12] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, is there a way to make Ubuntu work with Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing?
[10:12] <MrElendig> acroread is a bloted slow pos
[10:12] <Atomix> ubuntu's installation processes are confusing
[10:12] <pollywog> MrElendig: oh?  is there something better?
[10:12] <deadhob1> lynucs: on my desktop now, looks like the laptop locked up
[10:13] <mwe> fbis: I'm wondering why changing priority from 0 to 2 would have a huge impact, though.
[10:13] <jobo> also,  using a local address and letting my dlink router be the gateway works perfectly well
[10:13] <MrElendig> pollywog: even xpdf is better
[10:13] <lynucs> deadhob, what do you mean with locked up?
[10:13] <deadhob1> lynucs: I was running software updates, console and IRC while I switched drives, thats problably a problem :P
[10:13] <pollywog> I did not like xpdf
[10:13] <LjL> fbis: it used to be xserver-common, but not anymore apparently...
[10:13] <deadhob1> lynucs: like the mouse wont move or anything and the harddrive light is on solid
[10:13] <pollywog> It would not work reliably
[10:13] <lynucs> deadhob, maybe the problem is, the slot isn't ment to be a hotplug slot :D
[10:14] <Gosha> !sound
[10:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:14] <deadhob1> lynucs: lol, I would agree, but I have done coldboots with the drive in it to no avail :/
[10:14] <lynucs> deadhob, i mean for the locking up
[10:14] <deadhob1> lynucs: oh yeah, probably
[10:15] <violot> How do you configure dsl modems in LInux?
[10:15] <deadhob1> I'm not terribly concerned about the lockup
[10:15] <deadhob1> kinda deserved it
[10:15] <deadhob1> anyway
[10:15] <deadhob1> doing a coldboot with the harddrive in it now
[10:15] <Marupa> I'm looking for some sort of solution to a DJing problem.  Looking for some sort of method to show what has been playing, what is playing, what can be requested, and some sort of method to have users listen...Best way? (Apache?  some other form?)
[10:15] <lynucs> deadhob1, i'm sorry but i don't know how to solve the prob..
[10:15] <linuxero_> Enverex please
[10:16] <linuxero_> i want help you
[10:16] <lynucs> deadhob1, but if you solve it, could you drop me a mail?
[10:16] <Geoffrey2> ok, I lost the network for a little bit there, did anyone have an answer to my question about the software updates?
[10:16] <deadhob1> lynucs: oh well, thanks for your time. I'll run dmesg again when it boots up and see what ahppens
[10:16] <deadhob1> lynucs: sure, pm?
[10:16] <lynucs><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:16] <Atomix> Is it possible to install windows on a computer running ubuntu?
[10:16] <Atomix> Because i cannot do it
[10:16] <|Jason8|> Atomix, yeah
[10:16] <linuxero_> enverex!
[10:17] <deadhob1> ok lynucs, will do
[10:17] <|Jason8|> make a new partition
[10:17] <lynucs> deadhob1, thank you would be great
[10:17] <Atomix> im confused though, can anyone help?
[10:17] <|Jason8|> and run the Windows XP setup
[10:17] <x1nux> hi
[10:17] <pollywog> niktaris: using LinNeighborhood?
[10:17] <Atomix> i get an error
[10:17] <deadhob1> lynucs: no problem, thanks for trying :)
[10:17] <x1nux> i have a problem with this
[10:17] <Atomix> and what is a partition
[10:17] <lynucs> Atomix, you can, but windows will overwrite your mbr.. that means you will have to install grub again
[10:17] <x1nux> i have a problem with this
[10:17] <pike_> Atomix: for gaming or just regular desktop use?
[10:17] <x1nux> http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb
[10:18] <Atomix> i want windows as my operating system
[10:18] <Atomix> i just cannot get it to install
[10:18] <niktaris> pollywog, yes that works but it;s just to damn ugly
[10:18] <enyc> Atomix: well dont ask us ;-)
[10:18] <pike_> Atomix: if its just for regular app (not 3d) id install vmware server and just run xp virtually
[10:18] <lynucs> Atomix, do you want to delete linux completely?
[10:18] <|Jason8|> Atomix, do you want to keep ubuntu?
[10:18] <Atomix> pretty much
[10:18] <pollywog> niktaris: oic I like smb4k but it's for KDE
[10:18] <Atomix> i want it gone
[10:19] <lynucs> Atomix, did you create an extra partition for win?
[10:19] <Atomix> too confusing for me
[10:19] <Atomix> partition?
[10:19] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, well then, blow away the partition, format, and install Windows
[10:19] <x1nux> heyyy
[10:19] <x1nux> http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb
[10:19] <x1nux> i can't download this file ... :'(
[10:19] <Atomix> you see, i am confused as to how to do that
[10:19] <Atomix> because i have always used windows
[10:19] <LjL> anybody interested in fbis's question, the correct way to change X's niceness in Edgy is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common"
[10:19] <lynucs> Atomix, so you want to keep ubuntu and install windows, right?
[10:19] <x1nux> You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb on this server.
[10:20] <n2diy> I setup gpg, and just received my first encrypted email, can I decrypt it in Thunderbird?
[10:20] <Atomix> right lynucs
[10:20] <pbureau> atomix if you want linux gone, fdisk c drive delete all partitions and pop that cd in drive boot from cd and install windows on fresh HDD
[10:20] <Atomix> wait no
[10:20] <Atomix> i want it gone
[10:20] <pollywog> Atomics are you serious or playing with us?
[10:20] <Atomix> windows without ubuntu
[10:20] <lynucs> Atomix, ok then you have to create "place" on your hard disk for win
[10:20] <Jowi> Atomix, the windows installation is the same if you have linux installed or not. /j ##windows if you need help with that
[10:20] <tamacracka> can someone please help me re-mount my NTFS hard drive? My machine froze when I was transfering files from the NTFS to my EXT3 and now I get this error: /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.6' not found (required by /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g)
[10:20] <lynucs> Atomix, in other words youll have to create a partition
[10:21] <Atomix> so how do i do that
[10:21] <|Jason8|> Atomix, than just format the hard drive
[10:21] <erUSUL> LjL: i was under the impresion that with recent ( "recent being 2.6.x" ) it is no longer needed/wise to renice X
[10:21] <pollywog> I thought it was easy to install XP over Linux
[10:21] <pollywog> taking over the disk
[10:21] <lynucs> Atomix, at fiirst you would need top backup your files
[10:21] <Atomix> im confused, one is telling me to make a partition, one is telling me to format the harddrive...
[10:21] <lynucs> Atomix, becuse resizing partitions is allways risky
[10:22] <Atomix> they are backed up
[10:22] <LjL> erUSUL: maybe, but he had already done it (and set it to 2, which as he noticed is a bad idea) and wanted to revert, but we didn't know which package was concerned, and google turned up xserver-common, which isn't available in edgy
[10:22] <NeoGeo64> How fast will Ubuntu run on my system... my specs are as follows... intel core 2 extreme 2.66ghz quad core... western digital 500gb, 4gb ram, geforce 8800 w/ 768mb ram and xfi sound card??
[10:22] <pike_> Atomix: if you dont want ubuntu just run the xp installer and delete all partitions and have xp create new.
[10:22] <lynucs> Atomix, then google dor qtparted
[10:22] <erUSUL> LjL: fair enough ;)
[10:22] <shadowhywind> hi al, I am fed up with this, and hoping someone can help me. The last month or so when ever i boot up my ip # are allways off. i have them static but when i boot they come up as a 169.254 number..
[10:22] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, I think several people here think you want to dual boot, where what you want is to completely erase the hard drive and go back to a pure Windows setup
[10:22] <lynucs> Atomix, thats a tool for resizing partition
[10:22] <swx> Quelqun peu m'aider a rsoudre un problme avec gnome-art?
[10:23] <swx> oh sorry
[10:23] <erUSUL> !fr > swx
[10:23] <lynucs> !qtparted
[10:23] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[10:23] <pike_> Atomix: i think you should give ubuntu a shot though im not sure how much harder it is to run than xp.  just a little new and different to you
[10:23] <|Jason8|> Atomix wants to get rid of ubuntu, correct?
[10:23] <Atomix> yes
[10:23] <NeoGeo64> How fast will Ubuntu run on my system... my specs are as follows... intel core 2 extre01/24/2007 15:40:00  	IN TRANSIT TO[I]   	JACKSONVILLE, FL, US
[10:23] <NeoGeo64> 01/24/2007 15:39:00 	DEPARTURE SCAN[I]  	WEST COLUMBIA, SC, US 	me 2.66ghz quad core... western digital 500gb, 4gb ram, geforce 8800 w/ 768mb ram and xfi sound card??
[10:23] <pollywog> shadowhywind: I had the same problem with my kubuntu laptop last week and the problem was the router
[10:23] <OrangeOrange> how can i end task on a program like firefox
[10:23] <lynucs> |Jason8|, NO
[10:23] <OrangeOrange> cuz its frozen
[10:24] <pike_> OrangeOrange: pkill firefox is one way
[10:24] <lynucs> Atomix, you told you want keep ubuntu?
[10:24] <shadowhywind> pollywog i have this problem on 2 seperate routers
[10:24] <Atomix> no i said
[10:24] <Atomix> i want it gone
[10:24] <lynucs> rofl
[10:24] <Jowi> Atomix, alternative 1) boot the windows install cd. the installer will let you create or delete partitions. install windows. done. alternative 2) boot ubuntu live cd. run gparted. delete linux partitions. reboot with windows install cd. goto step 1.
[10:24] <pollywog> shadowhywind: are you using DD-WRT?
[10:24] <NthDegree> ?
[10:24] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, do you have a WIndows XP installation CD?
[10:24] <pike_> OrangeOrange: xkill is also handy will give you a cursor to just click on what to kill
[10:24] <lynucs> Atomix, then just start your windows cd, and choose delete partitions
[10:24] <pbureau> Atomix , look if you want ubuntu gone and winxp on it again.. simple.. reboot machine from winxp cdrom
[10:24] <Atomix> yes
[10:24] <shadowhywind> pollywog DD-WRT??
[10:25] <OrangeOrange> pike_: thanks
[10:25] <pollywog> shadowhywind: I have a Linksys router but I run the DD-WRT firmware on it
[10:25] <Geoffrey2> Atomix, then you SHOULD be able to just boot from the CD, tell it to install....and have it delete and create a brand new partition to install XP in
[10:26] <pollywog> shadowhywind: so I don't think my fix would apply to you
[10:26] <shadowhywind> oh the router that i am useing are 2 belkin routers, each of different version and firmwares
[10:26] <Atomix> what do you mean boot from the cd?
[10:26] <pike_> Atomix: but youre going to see the ugly side of xp too if youve never used the installer
[10:26] <n2diy> I setup gpg, and just received my first encrypted email, can I decrypt it in Thunderbird?
[10:26] <OrangeOrange> for ubuntu dapper.. i want to replace emerald .. since its freaking up my comp wen i load beryl.. the alternative is helidor right? but how do i dl it?
[10:27] <pollywog> shadowhywind: on my router the problem started when I set my ralink card to a static IP address using the MAC address
[10:27] <pbureau> Atomix, shut the pc down slap the cd iinto the drive and boot the machine.... FFS
[10:27] <erUSUL> n2diy: you need enigmail afaik
[10:27] <lynucs> Atomix, put your wincd into your drive and reboot pc
[10:27] <Jowi> Atomix, boot = start the system
[10:27] <Atomix> i know that
[10:27] <shadowhywind> ooc see the static ips that i set are in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:27] <MrElendig> Atomix: #windows
[10:27] <n2diy> erUSUL: ok, I'll check it out.
[10:27] <Atomix> but it never does anything, just goes to the linux start screen
[10:27] <pollywog> I fixed it by disabling dhcpd in the main menu and enabling it in the wifi menus
[10:27] <Atomix> i tried that
[10:27] <Atomix> they're more clueless than me
[10:27] <lynucs> Atomix, and make sure in bios, thta your machine tries to start from cd-rom first
[10:28] <pbureau> Atomix, boot into your cmos and change the boot sequence to start fro CD first
[10:28] <Atomix> ok, thanks i can do that
[10:28] <Geoffrey2> of course, that's assuming he has a bootable Windows CD
[10:28] <Atomix> if it works ill come back
[10:28] <Atomix> if not
[10:28] <Atomix> who knows
[10:28] <pbureau> Geoffrey2,  he said he did
[10:28] <Jowi> Atomix, good luck :)
[10:29] <pbureau> bye bye atomix, now back to real issues. lol
[10:29] <pollywog> Micrsoft will have to come up with a Linux removal tool
[10:29] <pbureau> pollywog,  they have called fdisk
[10:29] <pollywog> yes but an easy interface
[10:30] <pbureau> pollywog,  easy?.. question is : do you want to use the whole disk to install windows... does get easier than yes or no
[10:30] <EnsignRedshirt> If you are using 6.06, and if you have the package mesa-common-dev installed, could you do me a favor and see if the file gl.h is in /usr/include/GL ?
[10:30] <pollywog> pbureau: yes I know, I thought the person with the problem might be playing with us
[10:31] <pollywog> but probably not
[10:31] <pbureau> pollywog,  probably young guy not very tech savy...