[03:16] <Nasra> Nith: could it be wine...don't know since I am new to Ubuntu..
[03:16] <rooibos> antbee: thanks!
[03:16] <Twan> Where can I find the latest netboot installation version of Ubuntu?
[03:16] <Housefly7k> Well, my brother finished the install for a second time, and now it gets stuck at boot, the message it gets stuck at is "Setting the system clock"
[03:16] <Dr_willis> !install | Twan
[03:16] <ubotu> Twan: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[03:16] <john_doe> soldats: it just blanks the screen for a second
[03:16] <Housefly7k> and then the cursor is just blinking
[03:16] <Nith> Nasra: its definately wine, but I've never used it. Generally you can find a linux equivalent
[03:17] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, is he dual booting?
[03:17] <PMantis> Is there a way to tell apt-get (or aptitude) to upgrade all except the kernels? Or.. upgrade only those packages matching a pattern?
[03:17] <Nasra> Jack_Sparrow....yes sir....that is what I used to do it with windows....now I know is different but I don't know how
[03:17] <pygmymath> genefitz: eeepc heh
[03:17] <bnex10> aww i dont wanna reboot
[03:17] <Kevin_b_er> "/usr/bin/gnome-power-cmd.sh suspend" might do it.  Can't test it right now.
[03:17] <soldats> john_doe: yea its for monitor standby, but standby at best. does the normal power manager not work? is this a laptop?
[03:17] <bnex10> :(
[03:17] <rom> hi
[03:17] <rhineheart_m> well, can IPv6 be a reason why I have intermittent connection in PPPoE environment?
[03:17] <leo_rockw> Nasra: the thing is that you don't need the exes anymore
[03:17] <Nasra> Nith: you seem to understand what I want ....that is correct...
[03:17] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: he still has windows on there yeah
[03:18]  * Nith smiles
[03:18] <Nith> np
[03:18] <rom> I want to add "SHMConfig" "on" in my xorg for enabling touchpad configuration
[03:18] <rom> but...
[03:18] <leo_rockw> Nasra: just install from synaptic and find the program you installed in the menu.
[03:18] <rom> where?
[03:18] <Nasra> leo_rockw: then how do I do it in ubuntu?
[03:18] <john_doe> soldats: it's a laptop. suspend works perfectly from xfce and gnome.
[03:18] <rom> http://pastebin.com/m2d2f174f
[03:18] <jars> can anyone help me with some customization issues?  i need to create a custom cd, but not sure how to get it to auto run a custom java app in the boot
[03:18] <pygmymath> Dr_willis: at some point when i have more experience with python i'm thinking about writing an app that will generate a menu around the mouse cursor.. what do you reckon to that for usability? You seem to have some inttersting theories :)
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> Nasra, linux is different, you don't go scouring the net for installers, it's all in one handy dandy place :D
[03:18] <genefitz> Oh yeah, that's right.. By the way, how is that? You know, I put in for the buy one give one for olpc, I still haven't gotten my laptop yet.
[03:18] <john_doe> soldats: but I need to do it from command line
[03:18] <pygmymath> Daisuke_Ido: handhy dandy it is :P
[03:18] <cj_burchfield> bnex: you can install IPv6 on your windows machine.  Check this link: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/ipv6/ipv6faq.mspx
[03:18] <Nasra> Okay I am learning with you guys.....
[03:18] <soldats> john_doe: ahh Kevin_b_er suggestion may be it then
[03:18] <genefitz> not that I will probably ever use it for anything other than a toy...
[03:18] <leo_rockw> Nasra: let's say you want to install another media player. just look for it in synaptic and install it and it will be in your menu after it's done installing
[03:18] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, weird that it sticks there.. might be a bad burn.. he should burn it at the SLOWEST possible speed.. some will say it doesn't matter but I find it does as other have as well.
[03:19] <bnex10> windows mobile 5?
[03:19] <Nasra> leo_rockw: don't know how to call it if I don't know which one....get it?
[03:19] <bnex10> pffftttt
[03:19] <cj_burchfield> no.
[03:19] <cj_burchfield> not windows mobile 5
[03:19] <bnex10> no.
[03:19] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: kommando
[03:19] <Housefly7k> Scunizi: yeah I am gonna have him download and run the 32 livecd
[03:19] <pygmymath> genefitz: its a beautiful ubuntu box - running compiz pretty fast :D i use it for some music msn, firefox & irc
[03:19] <Scunizi> Housefly7k, much better
[03:19] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: kommando?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jars, that is beyond the scope of the support room... Perhaps asking in offtopic or use reconstructor or read up in the wiki on remastering
[03:19] <rom> can anyone help me for adding SHMConfig on in my xorg.conf
[03:19] <rom> ?
[03:19] <leo_rockw> Nasra: there should be categories and a search box
[03:19] <pygmymath> genefitz: its sweet for portability
[03:19] <cj_burchfield> i'm gonna go try the livecd.
[03:19] <genefitz> pygmymath: that is cool.
[03:19] <cj_burchfield> adios.
[03:19] <Nasra> leo_rockw: some people say wine....don't know that
[03:19] <pygmymath> genefitz: got ssh? :P
[03:19] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: at some point when i have more experience with python i'm thinking about writing an app that will generate a menu around the mouse cursor. ---> kommando
[03:20] <jars> thanks
[03:20] <genefitz> no, I don't..
[03:20] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: omgwut
[03:20] <leo_rockw> Nasra: wine is to run exe files in linux
[03:20] <Twan> Can I update Ubuntu from within Ubuntu?
[03:20] <pygmymath> brb google
[03:20] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: not exactly that, but close enough
[03:20] <bnex10> yes
[03:20] <Nasra> leo_rockw:  oh lol..
[03:20] <jars> another quick question, might be out of scope... I need to run a command in terminal from a java app.  I know how to do this in windows, but not linux
[03:20] <leo_rockw> Twan: that's a yes
[03:20] <bnex10> nvm
[03:20] <Dr_willis> pygmymath,  you refering to a 'circular menu' around the cursor.. seen that done with a window manager or 2, seen it done in games.. they tend to really suck. :)
[03:21] <Nasra> leo_rockw: that is correct that is what I want....
[03:21] <pygmymath> Dr_willis: not nessecarily circular.. but why the suck?
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis, how DARE you criticize Curse of Monkey Island's interface!
[03:21] <leo_rockw> Nasra: you want to run exes? why?
[03:21] <Nasra> leo_rockw: open it with wine and run it
[03:21] <fk7_se> whats a good game for ubuntu
[03:21] <leo_rockw> Nasra: if you really need an exe, then yes
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Nasra, what kind of software are you talking about running here?
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  never noticed that one. :) i  only play the older scummvm games with the menus at the bottom.
[03:21] <genefitz> pygmymath, That is cool though, I may have to look at one of them.. I bet I can find an eeepc on e-bay
[03:21] <leo_rockw> fk7_se: frets on fire, tremulous
[03:22] <Nasra> let me think so I can give you better example...okay?
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis, i love you.  purely platonic, but you know scummvm, and that's awesome
[03:22] <Dr_willis> pygmymath,   go play some of the games that use them.. the NeverWintersNights game is one that does it.. and egads.. its annoying.
[03:22] <pygmymath> genefitz: don't bet on it :P supply and demand is a bit shite at the moment. if you want one cheap wait till the new model comes out heh
[03:22] <_2> if a guy had three drives of sizes 13g 20g and 80g   how would you sujest they be mounted     like the root system on the 13g and home on the 20g ????
[03:22] <pygmymath> scumm vm is the win.
[03:22] <Roooty> Hi, can anyone recommend a good app for renaming files with german (non-english) characters?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  Sam and Max Hit the road!
[03:22] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: i run scummVM in my nintendo DS ;-)
[03:22] <pygmymath> Dr_willis: oh crikey, not game style. button to toggle open ness
[03:22] <pygmymath> close on click
[03:22] <bnex10> _2: yes
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, i just ordered a cyclods, i'm going to be playing that soon :D
[03:22] <fk7_se> tremulous look cool
[03:22] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: now that is insane
[03:22] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: that's what i have
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> you like it?
[03:23] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: i can ssh to my laptop with ds linux
[03:23] <indika> is there any similar command available for alternatives in redhat to automatically maintain symbolic links to binary files on a priority based system on ubuntu
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> and the big question: has it corrupted any microsd cards?
[03:23] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: not yet
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> cool
[03:23] <Dr_willis> pygmymath,  that metisse window manager thing in mandriva - has   some multi-direction menus in its window manager also. right click, move left/right for one option, up/down for another, diaginal for another..
[03:23] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: i like it so far, i got it a month ago
[03:23] <_2> bnex10 and usr/local on the 80g   right ?
[03:23] <jars> cesurasean are you still around?  irc blocked my private msg
[03:23] <genefitz> pygmymath, are you using the 900mhz unit?
[03:23] <leo_rockw> fk7_se: careful, tremulous is addictive :-P
[03:24] <pygmymath> genefitz: ayup
[03:24] <leo_rockw> pygmymath: sword fighting in the DS ftw :-P
[03:24] <Dr_willis>  tremulous makes me dizzy and want to throw up.
[03:24] <_2> bnex10 or would you say /var on the 80 ?
[03:24] <Twan> I chose to install Ubuntu desktop and it's now stuck at 2%...is this normal?>
[03:24] <bnex10> hmm
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis, i'm a sucker for the old sierra games :)
[03:24] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: specially if you play the aliens, they go faaast
[03:24] <genefitz> pygmymath, cool, I can get it on ebay for about $300 US
[03:24] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: did you try their VM?
[03:24] <Alucard_Hellsing> srry to interupt but i need a free voip that can call to physical phones quick
[03:24] <pygmymath> genefitz: ff, irssi, mocp, pidgin all running in compiz cube... cpu 34%
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> give me something with "Quest" in the title and i'm in heaven
[03:25] <bnex10> _2: will you have a lot of stuff in your home?
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, which vm would this be?
[03:25] <pygmymath> leo_rockw: sweet :D i was looking at ndslinux
[03:25] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: freesci
[03:25] <_2> bnex10 defind "a lot of stuff" ?
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> not impressed... yet
[03:25] <Roooty> Hi, in which folder to I put icons? Or do I choose my folder?
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i just use dosbox for those :D
[03:25] <_2> bnex10 define
[03:25] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: i could play some space quest
[03:25] <prettyricky> Is there a way to be able to move the windows around. I cant drag it or close oit
[03:25] <leo_rockw> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, dosbox is better for those, true
[03:25] <genefitz> actually, that was only the 2 G unit
[03:26] <genefitz> $350 US for the 4 gig
[03:26] <bnex10> _2: document , picutes, videos, basically your personal stuff
[03:26] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: i told you already, ekiga, openwengo
[03:26] <Alucard_Hellsing> yea but ekiga cant call physical
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> leo_rockw, Dr_willis, this is great, but really offtopic, i'm off to ubuntu-offtopic for more :)
[03:26] <_2> bnex10 most personal stuff will be public  so not in /home/*   but symlinked there.
[03:26] <genefitz> pygmymath, cool, I will have to pick one up next month.. I am a sucker for new toys.
[03:26] <Alucard_Hellsing> and openwengo is only for gnu
[03:26] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: ekiga can call physical
[03:26] <bnex10> _2oh ok
[03:27] <indika>  is command "alternatives" available on Ubuntu  to automatically maintain symbolic links to binary files on a priority based systems
[03:27] <Alucard_Hellsing> hos
[03:27] <pygmymath> genefitz: me too heh
[03:27] <Alucard_Hellsing> how
[03:27] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: and if you don't like gnu, why are you here?
[03:27] <prettyricky> Is there a way to be able to move the windows around. I cant drag it or close oit
[03:27] <pygmymath> genefitz: you need the 4 ideally.
[03:27] <bnex10> _2: what are planning to do?
[03:27] <Alucard_Hellsing> i dont have gnu right now
[03:27] <Alucard_Hellsing> my gnu comp fried
[03:27] <bnex10> _2: and what drives you have
[03:27] <genefitz> Ifpygmy, I agree. I may look at the 8G as well..
[03:27] <genefitz> I do love the portibility of it though
[03:27] <pygmymath> genefitz: 4g + sd cards heh
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> are we mistaking different meanings of gnu?
[03:28] <genefitz> pygmy even
[03:28] <Alucard_Hellsing> leo_rockw how do u call physical with ekiga
[03:28] <_2> bnex10 drives ?   i have a 13g 20g and 80g in this box.
[03:28] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: i have a voipstunt account
[03:28] <pygmymath> time for me to go anyhow
[03:28] <pygmymath> night #ubuntu
[03:28] <leo_rockw> take care pygmymath
[03:28] <Roooty> Hi, in which folder to I put icons? Or do I choose my folder?
[03:28] <DistroJockey> prettyricky: try holding down Alt and click and drag anywhere on the window
[03:28] <bnex10> ok
[03:28] <prettyricky> ok
[03:28] <genefitz> pygmymath: nice talking to you
[03:28] <newuser777> Does anyone know of a package that will make a full, complete and bit by bit image of floppy disks so I can archive my extensive floppy collection?
[03:29] <Flannel> newuser777: dd
[03:29] <prettyricky> that works but is there a reason that happens. How can I get it to work without the AlT
[03:29] <bnex10> _2 put what you think will be the biggest on the 80g
[03:29] <newuser777> Flannel: That's the name? Is it in the repos?
[03:29] <genefitz> People still use floppys? I haven't even had a floppy drive for the last few years
[03:29] <Flannel> newuser777: its a builtin, the command is 'dd'
[03:29] <Daisuke_Ido> dd if=/dev/floppy of=~/floppies/disk.img
[03:29] <bnex10> _2 root on 13g and maybe backups on 20g
[03:30] <DistroJockey> prettyricky: you can't move them by dragging the Titlebar?
[03:30] <newuser777> Oh ok, thanks Flannel and Daisuke_Ido.
[03:30] <_2> bnex10 umm backups will be on dvd media.
[03:30] <racarter> hi, i see that google makes their desktop app for linux, is it in any repositories?
[03:30] <racarter> not seeing it in medibuntu
[03:30] <bnex10> _2 ok
[03:31] <prettyricky> nope, I was able to and now I can't
[03:31] <chri1> any1 know evolution
[03:31] <DistroJockey> prettyricky: maybe you need to restart X
[03:31] <Dr_willis> chri1,  you might want to ask a slightly more speific question about it.. (and no i dont use it)
[03:31] <prettyricky> i have done that a couple of times and still no joy, its annoying!
[03:31] <Anaxite> Hi everyone; I'd like to ask a support question about a wireless networking issue.
[03:32] <Twan> Can I install Desktop 7.10 over an old server install?
[03:32] <DistroJockey> prettyricky: bummer. Sorry, I'm out of ideas atm
[03:32] <prettyricky> ty
[03:32] <DistroJockey> np
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> newuser777, Look for a copy of vgacopy.. freeware for windows.. but also works in wind, dosbox or vbox..  even copies special floppies
[03:32] <bnex10> Twan: yes if you format the partition first
[03:33] <leo_rockw> !anyone | chri1
[03:33] <ubotu> chri1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:33] <newuser777> Next question. I have a few CDs that I burned and have crc errors which make it next to impossible to try to access their contents. Is there a package that will read a flawed disc and do it's best to recover whatever it can and copy it to my hard disc to get a good copy of the undamaged files?
[03:33] <newuser777> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks I'll look into it.
[03:33] <Anaxite> Despite the fact that I've got the essid correct, the network is unencrypted, my computer did get an IP address through DHCP and I have the right driver installed, the computer with the Ubuntu live session running is not able to access any external website or computer. It's as if there were no connection in the first place.
[03:33] <hylinux> hello, anyone had installed the ubuntu 8.04 to his thinkpad t60?
[03:33] <genefitz> newuser777: I don't know of any program that will recover damaged disks.
[03:34] <Roooty> Hi, can anyone recommend a good app for renaming files with german (non-english) characters?
[03:34] <Anaxite> And I followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 ...
[03:34] <Anaxite> Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
[03:34] <alvarezp> hylinux: t42?
[03:34] <hylinux> how about the ati graphics card support?
[03:34] <hylinux> alvarezp: t60
[03:34] <leo_rockw> !hardy | hylinux
[03:34] <ubotu> hylinux: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:34] <hylinux> have a x1300 ati card.
[03:34] <Kevin_b_er> hylinux: depends on which ATI card
[03:35] <hylinux> kevin_b_er: x1300
[03:35] <chri1> i automatically forward all incoming mail in gmail to a another account can I do that in Evo?
[03:35] <hylinux> in my ubuntu 7.10, I can't make the 3d work always.
[03:35] <leo_rockw> hylinux: you'll get better support in #ubuntu+1
[03:35] <hylinux> leo_rockw: thanks.
[03:36] <newuser777> Jack_Sparrow: Google search for vgacopy suggests that it might be malware.
[03:36] <_2> Anaxite sudo route add default gw "<put the ip here for the box/router nearest the internet>"
[03:37] <Alucard_Hellsing> leo_rockw i have a voipstunt account but how do i use it with ekiga
[03:37] <Anaxite> _2: I typed that in, I get this message: "SIOCADDRT: File exists"
[03:37] <rhen_she> shalala
[03:38] <_2> jhonijim nice quit message... heh try    ssh boxes_ip eject
[03:38] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: i don't remember how i did it, i found it in google
[03:38] <_2> Anaxite venella    route    and see what the default is set to
[03:38] <Alucard_Hellsing> k
[03:38] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: don't spam your questions in both channels, please
[03:38] <chri1> i automatically forward all incoming mail in gmail to a another account can I do that in Evo?
[03:38] <Alucard_Hellsing> srry
[03:38] <d10n1sus> has anybody ever had the problem of their printer only spitting out blank pages?
[03:38] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: i got voipstunt working with microphone to land line
[03:39] <leo_rockw> Alucard_Hellsing: i couldn't get the "call me first and call them later" thing to work
[03:39] <Anaxite> ok, let's see
[03:39] <xb3rt> In ubuntu gutsy, how do I edit the options on the Desktop Right click menu
[03:41] <Anaxite> _2: line 1: <IP_ADDRESS> / * / <IP_ADDRESS> / U / 0 / 0 / 0 / eth1
[03:41] <Anaxite> line 2: default / <IP_ADDRESS> / <IP_ADDRESS> / UG / 0 / 0 / 0 / eth1
[03:41] <Anaxite> <IP_ADDRESS> being the correct router IP address
[03:41] <_2> and you are connected to the router ?
[03:41] <Anaxite> Presumably.
[03:42] <xb3rt> Anaxite: What are you trying to do
[03:42] <Anaxite> I'm trying to connect to any website whatsoever.
[03:42] <xb3rt> Anaxite: Dont you have firefox
[03:42] <Anaxite> Yes, I do. It doesn't work, even when my wireless connection is set up properly.
[03:43] <gradin> how do you empty the trash manually from the command line?
[03:43] <xb3rt> Anaxite: Whats the error
[03:43] <troxor> gradin: check ~/.Trash
[03:43] <amenado> Anaxite-> what is the ip address of your host?
[03:43] <Anaxite> Even though I get a DHCP-assigned address, no external site will load. Even just pinging the router yields Destination Host Unreachable
[03:43] <gradin> troxor: tnx
[03:43] <keithclark> I am having a problem sharing files between two computers via ssh.  I can view the directories and even play media files on the remote computer, but when I try to save files to it, a dialog window comes up and shows the progress, which never seems to move.  I also lose access to that remote computer until I cancel the process and logout and back in again.  Any ideas what is going wrong here?
[03:43] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3579032b <-- does that mean that the repo no longer contains those versions ?
[03:44] <troxor> gradin: there's another one, something like ~/.local/share/Trash, but that's probably not right
[03:44] <_2> or is the security repo down ?
[03:44] <chri1> dr. willis?
[03:44] <gradin> troxor: yeah didn't work...
[03:44] <Anaxite> To try to fix it, I followed the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 for manual network configuration, and also assigned the computer a static IP address.
[03:44] <amenado> Anaxite-> better yet, please paste your ifconfig;  iwlist;  route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf  also  sudo iptables -n -vL
[03:44] <gradin> i've got /dev/shm showing as 0% free disk space
[03:44] <troxor> gradin: hey cool, there's .local/share/Trash/files/*
[03:44] <genefitz> keithclark: on the remote computer, do you have read/write access?
[03:45] <keithclark> yes
[03:45] <Anaxite> Ok, one sec...
[03:45] <troxor> gradin: the /dev/shm is normal
[03:45] <keithclark> genefitz, yes, I am accessing a folder that I have read/write permission on under the login name that I use for ssh
[03:45] <_2> what is /dev/shm supposed to do anyway ?
[03:45] <chri1> i automatically forward all incoming mail in gmail to a another account can I do that in Evo?
[03:46] <genefitz> keithclark, I'm not sure. I will have to look it up.
[03:46] <troxor> _2: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-chat/2006-September/027567.html
[03:46] <prettyricky> does anyone have any suggestions on how I can enable dragging any windows that are open/. I currently cant close them or drag them......It use to work before : (
[03:46] <keithclark> genefitz, thanks, I've tried with no luck.  No error message comes up, just a window with a graph that never moves.
[03:47] <rhen_she> shasya
[03:47] <troxor> prettyricky: depends on the wm
[03:47] <CorbinFox> hey all, I have a problem it appears with my nvidia card or something of the sort.  every little bit, it seems only when i am running firefox, all of Xorg freezes.  Firefox feezes, the little chart i have for system monitor freezes, i cant switch desktops with ctrl-alt-arrow, and then a second at the most later it unfreezes and business goes about.  I have found that there is a log made every time this happens.  any ideas? im thinking of just
[03:47] <genefitz> prettyricky, have you enabled Compiz or Beryl?
[03:47] <genefitz> keithclark, interesting issue.. I am looking up anything I can find for ssh sharing..
[03:47] <prettyricky> let me try enabling compiz
[03:48] <keithclark> genefitz, this is between on machine that is running 7.10 and one is running 8.04
[03:48] <keithclark> genefitz, if that is relevant.
[03:48] <_2> troxor so not using it is a good thing then ?
[03:48] <genefitz> prettyricky, some systems have issues with the effects, my old compuer had that happen every time I enabled desktop effects
[03:48] <troxor> _2: it doesn't hurt anything, afaict
[03:49] <_2> just eats ram   albeit not much.
[03:49] <rhen_she> shasya
[03:49] <genefitz> keithclark, give me just a second..
[03:49] <prettyricky> well the its enabled. It was working before, don't know what happened its just annoying....
[03:49] <gradin> huh nvm then...
[03:49] <gradin> i thought i had a disk free space issue...
[03:50] <haji88> hi, this is my first time trying to start a FTP server, so I've got proftp installed and I was able to upload and download files to the server on my local network using the ip address of the server to connect to it, but how can I connect to the server from somewhere else. I mean how do I know the server's address?
[03:50] <Anaxite> amenado: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d101372a7
[03:50] <genefitz> prettyricky, try turning off desktop effects, and see if the problem goes away..
[03:50] <Sinnerman> is there anything i could use to view .pdb files on ubuntu?
[03:50] <prettyricky> alright
[03:50] <_2> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main libnss3 2:1.firefox1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>~prepatch080202a-0ubuntu1  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[03:51] <genefitz> keithclark, I am seeing a bug report with openssh between gutsy and hardy.
[03:51] <keithclark> genefitz, ah, that could very well be it.
[03:51] <charliko_> a good primer for linux?
[03:51] <amenado> Anaxite-> and you have a wireless connection? where is the result of iwlist
[03:51] <_2> is that error telling me that the version of update is no longer avalable ?
[03:51] <keithclark> genefitz, I will try the same with yet another machine running 7.10
[03:51] <__mikem> The Linux Bible 2008
[03:52] <Anaxite> iwlist requires multiple parameters; it's taking me time to get those
[03:52] <genefitz> kiethclark, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/202508
[03:52] <rhineheart_m> hello.. is disabling IPV6 cannot disrupt web server operation? I only found out that my router cannot support IPv6.. and I guess it might be the reason of intermittent connection in my LAN
[03:52] <amenado> charliko_-> ... free books  http://tldp.org/guides.html
[03:52] <genefitz> Prettyricky, did turning off effects fix your window problem?
[03:53] <amenado> Anaxite-> my typo, i meant iwconfig
[03:53] <keithclark> genefitz, thanks!  I'm review the bug report now.
[03:53] <kindofabuzz> finally! i got vnc working right so i can see the gdm login! woot!
[03:53] <prettyricky> nope
[03:53] <amenado> Anaxite-> you have wireless connection right?
[03:54] <genefitz> kiethclark, hope it gives a little info, I know it doesn't help to see the bug reports, but at least you will know you aren't the only one..
[03:54] <xb3rt> Anybody know how, to edit the menu in ubuntu, that shows up when a user right clicks the desktop
[03:54] <genefitz> Prettyricky, have you tried a reboot? Something happens at reboot, sometimes problems just disappear.. lol
[03:55] <CorbinFox> hey all, I have a problem it appears with my nvidia card or something of the sort.  every little bit, it seems only when i am running firefox, all of Xorg freezes.  Firefox freezes, the little chart i have for system monitor freezes, i cant switch desktops with ctrl-alt-arrow, and then a second at the most later it unfreezes and business goes on.
[03:55] <amenado> xb3rt-> gconf-editor perhaps?
[03:55] <Anaxite> amenado: iwconfig at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7eeb67c4
[03:55] <prettyricky> well I just restarted x, maybe I will just shut it all the way and see what happens.
[03:55] <prettyricky> Thank you@
[03:55] <genefitz> Prettyricky, hope it helps
[03:56] <Scunizi> xb3rt, maybe http://www.linux.com/feature/114134?page=3
[03:56] <CorbinFox> I have checked the logs and every time this happens it says something along the lines of "(WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT" followed by a series of numbers.  any ideas?
[03:56] <amenado> Anaxite-> you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> at all?
[03:56] <Scunizi> prettyricky, have you tried using alt
[03:57] <rava> chating
[03:57] <Anaxite> amenado: Destination Host Unreachable
[03:57] <prettyricky> yeah that works
[03:57] <prettyricky> but that would get annoying after a while
[03:57] <keithclark> genefitz, maybe I should ask in ubuntu+1?
[03:57] <cdubya> any good tutorials on how to create directories with a shell script using user input prompts, etc......?
[03:57] <amenado> Anaxite-> really?.. can you ping localhost? ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:57] <Scunizi> prettyricky, do you have window decorations? as in the menu's at the top of a window?
[03:57] <prettyricky> ?
[03:58] <Anaxite> amenado: Just tried that and yep - pinging localhost works fine.
[03:58] <prettyricky> sorry not sure what you mean
[03:58] <genefitz> keithclark, that may be a good idea. I am running hardy too, but I am using Samba.
[03:58] <Scunizi> prettyricky, at the top of each window there are typically a list of menu items like File/Edit etc.. are those visable or missing?
[03:59] <amenado> Anaxite i'd reset and see if you can still ping localhost... to reset   /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:59] <prettyricky> oh they are there
[03:59] <Alucard_Hellsing> i need some help every time i tri to  change my screensaver settings. it logs me out of my user
[03:59] <Scunizi> prettyricky, so what you're saying is you can't just use the mouse and click and drag a window?
[03:59] <prettyricky> I can close the window by going to file and exit, but I can seem to drag the window. There is not close button either
[03:59] <realcoolguy> looking for help on how to find out whether or not my pc even sees a PCI wireless card I put in.  I'm not sure where to start looking, because it seems to do nothing... is  there a place to see if my pci  card is even detected?
[04:00] <prettyricky> thats correct
[04:00] <Anaxite> amenado: Ok, ran that command. I can still ping localhost afterwards, and <IP_ADDRESS> is still unreachable
[04:00] <prettyricky> the button on the top right hand corner is not there to close the window either
[04:00] <Scunizi> prettyricky, ah. sounds like you're missing the window decorations.. you're running compiz right?
[04:00] <din> realcoolguy: sudo lspci
[04:00] <kindofabuzz> how come i can't use the servers host name to login through vnc or ssh?
[04:00] <prettyricky> correct
[04:00] <Scunizi> prettyricky, have you installed CCSM (compiz configuration settings manager)?
[04:01] <prettyricky> yes I have it installed
[04:01] <amenado> Anaxite and you still get same info as earlier when you do ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n ?
[04:01] <nickrud> kindofabuzz you need some kind of name resolution to be able to do that
[04:01] <Scunizi> prettyricky, if you can open it look in there for the option called Window Decorations and make sure that it has a check mark next to it.
[04:01] <prettyricky> ok
[04:02] <realcoolguy> din: thanks, i see it there... just need to go figure out howto make ubuntu talk to it
[04:02] <kindofabuzz> nickrud: what do i need/
[04:02] <Anaxite> amenado: Yes, although 'route -n' added a new line with a default of <IP_ADDRESS>. So three lines now.
[04:02] <din> realcoolguy: what chipset is it?
[04:02] <nickrud> kindofabuzz is this your local network, and is the server a static address?
[04:02] <kindofabuzz> nickrud: yup
[04:02] <leo_rockw> kindofabuzz: i believe you need to add it to /etc/hosts i could be wrong, tho
[04:02] <Twan> I finished installing the core to Ubuntu and now it's trying to install Ubuntu Desktop but it just is stuck at 6% saying 'Please wait...'
[04:02] <amenado> Anaxite thats okay , that 169.x.x.x is irrelevant..  how about your /etc/hosts  how does that look like?
[04:02] <awmcclain> Sigh. I really don't understand this. apt-get isn't installing dependencies for me. libterm-readline-perl-perl: Depends: libterm-readkey-perl but it is not going to be installed
[04:02] <Twan> Anything I can do?
[04:02] <kindofabuzz> it is in /etc/hosts
[04:03] <din> realcoolguy: Atheros? broadcom?
[04:03] <realcoolguy> din: i think it's marvel technology or something strange... i think the brand was belkin
[04:03] <nickrud> kindofabuzz add a line like:     <IP_ADDRESS>  servername     to /etc/hosts on the machine you are ssh'ing from. This will work as long as the address doesn't change, obviously
[04:03] <Anaxite> amenado: okay... 'cat /etc/hosts' yields two lines for the IPV4 section. "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost" and "<IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu"
[04:03] <kindofabuzz> ok add it to the client?
[04:04] <amenado> Anaxite-> and this still exist?  <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[04:04] <din> realcoolguy: i'd search the forums for it. you may possibly have to use ndiswrapper to get it working.
[04:04] <prettyricky> is that option under window management cause I cant seem to find it
[04:04] <realcoolguy> din: i really wish it was atheros... =(  I'm a better linux user than i seem to let on... just brain froze and forgot lspci ><   i can dig and find out how to make it work now though.  Thanks again din
[04:04] <Anaxite> Yes, that still exists, amenado
[04:04] <nickrud> kindofabuzz the file /etc/hosts on the machine you are running ssh on, if that's what you mean by client
[04:04] <Scunizi> prettyricky, hang on
[04:04] <din> realcoolguy: np
[04:04] <blbrown> this is a strange question; what are the modern ways to control a simple servo motor; printer cable and what about on the software end?
[04:04] <amenado> Anaxite umm that dont look right  <IP_ADDRESS> ubuntu   you can comment that with #
[04:04] <Scunizi> prettyricky, it's under Effects
[04:05] <prettyricky> ok
[04:05] <Scunizi> prettyricky, now go to system/preferances/Appearance/Visual Effects and change the setting to "None".. wait for the screen to blink once and change it back to normal. Does that make a difference?
[04:05] <kindofabuzz> nickrud: ok, did that, any service i need to restart?
[04:05] <nickrud> kindofabuzz nope
[04:05] <rhineheart_m> hello.. is disabling IPV6 cannot disrupt web server operation? I only found out that my router cannot support IPv6.. and I guess it might be the reason of intermittent connection in my LAN
[04:05] <prettyricky> ok let me see
[04:05] <kindofabuzz> cool that worked
[04:05] <Scunizi> !ipv6 | rhineheart_m
[04:05] <ubotu> rhineheart_m: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:06] <nickrud> kindofabuzz that's how it was done before dns, all the machines in the world had an /etc/hosts file pointing at all the other machines in the world ;)
[04:06] <kindofabuzz> woot! tigers in da elite 8! sorry ot =)
[04:06] <prettyricky> that was the issue. Thank you so very much!
[04:06] <kindofabuzz> nickrud: wow i bet those were some big files!
[04:07] <nickrud> kindofabuzz not really. Not many machines on the net then
[04:07] <Scunizi> prettyricky, no problem.. compiz is cool but has it's issues.. now you know something new to pass on to someone else :)
[04:07] <genefitz> prettyricky, sorry, I completely brain fried on that one.
[04:07] <rhineheart_m> I am using ubuntu server.. and I can't afford to reboot the web server..
[04:07] <kindofabuzz> nickrud: true
[04:07] <genefitz> I guess when all else fails, check the obvious ;-)
[04:07] <prettyricky> no prob, thanks again for all the help!
[04:08] <rhineheart_m> Scunizi, I am using ubuntu server and I can't afford to restart the web server.. I have uptime to maintain
[04:08] <kindofabuzz> rhineheart_m: why is uptime so important?
[04:08] <kindofabuzz> sometimes you gotta do what ya gotta do
[04:09] <Scunizi> rhineheart_m, there may be a way to just restart that service .. take 10 secs or so. if someone can enlighten us on how to.
[04:09] <din> which service?
[04:09] <kindofabuzz> what's the service?
[04:09] <rhineheart_m> Scunizi, how about restarting the eth0?
[04:09] <Scunizi> din, rhineheart_m needs to blacklist ipv6 and keep the uptime up.
[04:09] <kindofabuzz> do /etc/init.d/<whatever> restart
[04:09] <emja> anyone know where irexec starts from? I can't find it in /etc/ or in ~
[04:09] <nickrud> sudo modprobe -r ipv6  ?
[04:10] <din> rmmod ipv6
[04:10] <din> heh
[04:10] <CorbinFox> anyone know what causes a log in Xorg.0.log like "(WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 6, 0x8000, 0x00001758, 0x00001758)"?  it goes along with a feezing of the entire display for a half second to a second.
[04:10] <din> then add ipv6 to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:10] <rhineheart_m> mmmm.. modprobe -r ipv6 <<< what does it do?
[04:10] <Scunizi> din, is that realtime? or does rhineheart_m need to restart eth0
[04:10] <Starnestommy> rhineheart_m: it removes the kernel modules for ipv6 support
[04:10] <din> that's realtime. it removes ipv6 from the running kernel
[04:10] <nickrud> rhineheart_m it removes the ipv6 support from the kernel
[04:11]  * leo_rockw is going to play some tremulous. Have a good night, #ubuntu
[04:11] <rhineheart_m> mmmm... okay.. any apps or mods dependent to IPV6?
[04:11] <nickrud> rhineheart_m you can see all the modules in the kernel (providing much of it functionality) with lsmod
[04:11] <nickrud> rhineheart_m no modules, no
[04:11] <din> rhineheart_m: i wouldn't think so.
[04:12] <din> rhineheart_m: make sure to add ipv6 to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so it doesn't load up on the next boot.
[04:12]  * nickrud did an lsmod  grep ipv6 first ;)
[04:12] <rhineheart_m> well, I tried dig AAAA www.kame.net and I got response..
[04:12] <rhineheart_m> does it mean I have working IPV6?
[04:12] <ste-foy> thank you for your help din
[04:12] <nickrud> rhineheart_m it's better to create a new file in the modprobe.d , the blacklist file is provided by ubuntu and the whole purpose of *.d directories is avoiding altering files provided by packages
[04:13] <din> rhineheart_m: what was the answer from the dig?
[04:13] <rhineheart_m> but the router's support group told me that their router cannot support IPV6 only IPV4
[04:13] <din> ste-foy: anytime.
[04:13] <Scunizi> rhineheart_m, did you get the mosaic version of the dancing turtle
[04:13] <ste-foy> :)
[04:13] <TheArthur> installed sun java5-jdk but javac is not put in the path? is their some java-config-bla bla program used to switch the version of java i am using?
[04:14] <nickrud> TheArthur   sudo update-alternatives --config java should set it
[04:14] <amenado> TheArthur-> update-alternatives
[04:14] <Dr_willis> TheArthur,  the !java factoid page has details on that also.
[04:14] <rhineheart_m> this is the answer I got http://pastebin.com/d67ae237b
[04:14] <Motorsport3> hello, I'm wondering how I would install a package (ruby-full) w/o installing the recommended packages, which are libtcltk-ruby, and ruby-elisp? Or do I really need them?
[04:14] <kindofabuzz> i have a dynDNS account to my static wan address, can i have the servers lan addres and the url name in the host file together? or do i not need to do that?
[04:14] <TheArthur> thanks :)(
[04:15] <rhineheart_m> din, this is it: http://pastebin.com/d67ae237b
[04:15] <din> rhineheart_m: if your machine's ip address is in the format of x.x.x.x then you won't have any impact by removing ipv6.
[04:15] <rhineheart_m> din, I have this format 192.168.1.*
[04:15] <nickrud> kindofabuzz don't need to, just have the port forwarding set up
[04:15] <din> rhineheart_m: it's fine. you can remove it.
[04:15] <SilverDawn> lynksys?
[04:15] <SilverDawn> linksys?
[04:15] <rhineheart_m> SilverDawn, yeah. Linksys
[04:15] <TheArthur> !java
[04:15] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[04:16] <rhineheart_m> Is anybody here willing to assist me through the removal procedure? I just can't afford damagin my box...
[04:16] <kindofabuzz> nickrud: port 80?
[04:16] <rhineheart_m> I am working remotely
[04:16] <nickrud> kindofabuzz for a web server, yes
[04:17] <din> rhineheart_m: sudo modprobe -r ipv6 or sudo rmmod ipv6
[04:17] <din> then echo ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:17] <Flannel> !ipv6 | rhineheart_m
[04:17] <ubotu> rhineheart_m: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:17] <nickrud> din it's better to create a new file in the modprobe.d , the blacklist file is provided by ubuntu and the whole purpose of *.d directories is avoiding altering files provided by packages
[04:17] <Llewxam> hey all... anyone know how i can re-enable gnome-screensaver and take out xscreensaver?
[04:17] <rhineheart_m> din, can I PM you?
[04:18] <din> rhineheart_m: sure.
[04:18] <jason> lol
[04:18] <din> nickrud: i see.
[04:18] <rhineheart_m> din, thanks
[04:18] <rob353> how do I make a ramdisk for bootup when I'm compiling a kernel? I can't find mkinitrd. I'm running kububtu
[04:18] <mc-george> guys, I just installed gkrellm but I don't know how to make it start?
[04:19] <nickrud> rob353  it's mkinitramfs in ubuntu
[04:19] <nickrud> mc-george   alt-f2 gkrellm
[04:19] <emja> mc-george: just run gkrellm from a shell prompt
[04:19] <rob353> nickrud: thanks :)
[04:19] <emja> er, that too
[04:19] <mc-george> how?
[04:19] <mc-george> what?
[04:20] <mc-george> not sure what you guys mean
[04:20] <nickrud> mc-george gkrellm doesn't have a menu item (apparently)  so press   alt-f2 , that will open a run dialog. Type gkrellm there
[04:20] <mc-george> ah, thanks
[04:20] <Scunizi> mc-george, you can also put it in startup sessions in System/Preferance/Sessions so it will load on startup
[04:21] <mc-george> does it always stay in the bottom panel?
[04:21] <nickrud> mc-george as you get more used to ubuntu, you'll find yourself launching most apps that way :)
[04:21] <nickrud> mc-george you an move it around, it's a window
[04:22] <Scunizi> mc-george, it can be docked on one side of your screen if you want
[04:22] <mc-george> k thanks
[04:22] <Motorsport3> found it, its sudo aptitude install -R ruby-full (this will install just the dependencies and not the recommended)
[04:24] <leonardo> preciso de ajuda
[04:24] <leonardo> alguem pra me ajudar?
[04:24] <Scunizi> !es | leonardo
[04:24] <ubotu> leonardo: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:24] <rob353> ok so how do I use mkinitramfs? lol I'm trying to build and run a compiled kernel.
[04:24] <leonardo> sou do brasil
[04:25] <leonardo> brasileiro
[04:25] <Scunizi> !br | leonardo
[04:25] <ubotu> leonardo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:25] <Noname> can u connect to irc through a proxy with xchat
[04:25] <leonardo> obrigado ubotu
[04:25] <Scunizi> leonardo, no problem
[04:25] <trakinas> hi
[04:26] <Scunizi> !hi
[04:26] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:26] <trakinas> i need some help understanding alsamixer
[04:26] <Scunizi> trakinas, is it not working? or are you trying to do something specific withit.
[04:27] <trakinas> Scunizi: something specific. for example, what IEC958 means
[04:27] <big-boss> My daily report: I made counter-strike source work properly on Ubuntu, directly from my NTFS partition. And am now listening to Risk Asltley because I just got rickrolled. :)
[04:27] <Noname> anybody know a irc program i can use a proxy with
[04:27] <schweeb> Noname: you should be able to, using a socks proxy... not sure about http proxies
[04:27] <schweeb> Noname: http, you'll probably need a tunneling app
[04:27] <Noname> how would i go about if you don't mind i can't find any options in xchat for it
[04:28] <schweeb> what kind of proxies?
[04:28] <blah569> Is there much of a speed difference of running Ubuntu if you install it from Wubi rather then installing it from the disk?
[04:28] <schweeb> blah569: probably slight - as it's block filesystem on top of a filesystem
[04:28] <schweeb> blah569: not significant
[04:28] <Noname> got banned from irc channel just need to get back in
[04:28] <Scunizi> trakinas, Parameters are sampling rate which is 44.1 kHz on home stereos, and 48 kHz on home theaters, a sample width measured in bits, such as 8, 16, 24 or 32, a sample encoding, a number of channels, 1 for mono, 2 for stereo, or 6 for ac-3/IEC958,
[04:29] <schweeb> why wouldy ou need back in to something you're banned from?
[04:29] <blah569> If I install Ubuntu from a CD, is it easy to remove it without wiping Windows?
[04:29] <blah569> wipeing *
[04:29] <blah569> gah, I do not know the correct spelling.
[04:29] <Noname> just the way i am don't like getting banned for opinions
[04:29] <trakinas> Scunizi: Im trying to record microphone and sounds that pass through the board too. once i was able to do so, but cant remember now
[04:30] <Scunizi> blah569, depends on the install.. if you're using the latest beta of Hardy 8.04 then you might be talking about wubi. In that case yes it's easy.. from what I've heard..
[04:30] <blah569> I'm just afraid that my Wubi installation will go corrupt.
[04:30] <Noname> didn't like my pro piracy stance even though i was not giving links
[04:30] <kindofabuzz> i just vnc'd to the computer i'm on to test it. i get the repeat effect like when you video tape into a mirror
[04:30] <trakinas> and i get confused with the IEC thing... dont know what i have to mute, mark on playback, mark on capture...
[04:30] <Scunizi> trakinas, are you using hardy or gutsy?
[04:30] <blah569> I have a restore CD, but I am afraid that it might not even boot up if Wubi does filesystem damage.
[04:30] <trakinas> Scunizi: gutsy
[04:31] <Scunizi> trakinas, this might be all taken care of in hardy since they are using pulseaudio.. not sure how to do it in alsa.. never tried.
[04:31] <trakinas> Scunizi: thanks, anyway! thought was only a matter of alsa switchs
[04:31] <blah569> Does anyone believe that the restore CD would still boot up?
[04:32] <Scunizi> trakinas, might be.. keep playing around.
[04:32] <Scunizi> blah569, restore CD?
[04:32] <Scunizi> blah569, you talking about a windows restore cd?
[04:33] <blah569> A CD that is in the box of the same laptop that will whipe the hard drive, and reinstall Windows.   If you have to use the restore cd it will wipe everything off the drive and put windows back like new..
[04:34] <Scunizi> blah569, you do have a dual boot option without using wubi
[04:34] <blah569> I have read that Wubi can do major filesystem damage, and not allow booting of Ubuntu or Windows.
[04:34] <blah569> reading *
[04:35] <Scunizi> !wubi
[04:35] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[04:35] <Scunizi> blah569, do you have more than one harddrive?
[04:35] <soldats> blah569: if you have installed ubuntu using specific partitions for ubuntu windows should still work fine, a windows restore CD will still reinstall windows to your factory settings.
[04:35] <Lovely> ..
[04:36] <evand> blah569: where did you read that Wubi can do major filesystem damage?
[04:36] <blah569> On ubuntuforums.org
[04:37] <Scunizi> blah569, if you have more than one drive and the second has nothing important on it or it's just laying around. Yank the windows drive and put the other in for a full clean install of ubuntu.. If you like it put the windows drive back in along with it and come back to discover how to install Grub
[04:38] <blah569> ah, okay.  I would prefer to have a Windows installation on the harddrive that will have Ubuntu, so therefore I can use WINE to emulate most of my Windows applications.
[04:38] <toommy> bllb
[04:39] <toommy> Chappy?
[04:39] <Scunizi> blah569, that won't make any difference with wine.. remember wine won't run 3d intensive apps.
[04:39] <Scunizi> read ... games
[04:39] <lilg111111> need help installing the newest version of compiz fusion plugins and unsupported plugins
[04:39] <evand> blah569: can you point me at a specific thread that says this?
[04:39] <blah569> The damage was due to "hard rebooting."
[04:39] <blah569> The file system damage.
[04:40] <evand> blah569: that will happen in windows as well.  NTFS handles such situations poorly.
[04:40] <schweeb> evand: I suspect it's a slightly valid concern, if your Windows install is on NTFS - you could possibly leave the NTFS volume in an unclean volume
[04:41] <schweeb> er
[04:41] <schweeb> unclean state
[04:41] <niuq> hi
[04:41] <evand> schweeb: correct, though I don't believe that hard resetting Wubi does more damage than hard resetting Windows.  I'm open to evidence to the countrary, howevre.
[04:41] <evand> however*
[04:41] <blah569> That would be terrible if I accidentally turned off this computer accidentally with a "hard boot," and then everything would be mest up.
[04:41] <niuq> i have a problem with the title bar of the windows, it just disappear for no reason...
[04:41] <blah569> Ooops, Improper sentence.
[04:41] <schweeb> and NTFS is usually pretty resilient actually, if you're using the windows drivers in windows
[04:42] <Scunizi> blah569, make a small 10 gig partition on your drive and do a dual boot situation.. that way one side won't mess with the other .. much
[04:42] <ka2> schweeb: really? i had problems with that some time ago
[04:42] <schweeb> the ntfs linux driver is much more likely to crash an NTFS volume
[04:42] <soldats> niuq: are you using basic gnome
[04:42] <Peddy> hi, how do I regain the mouse lock? I just force quit UrbanTerror, but it still has the lock, so I can't move my mouse at all. I can't log off, because I have some important downloads going on. Any help :)?
[04:42] <niuq> soldats: i'm using compiz-fusion, an i have an ati card
[04:42] <schweeb> ka2: with nt, 2k, xp?
[04:42]  * Scunizi is away: I'm taking a break
[04:42] <ka2> schweeb: xp
[04:43] <schweeb> ka2: probably multiple levels of failure caused it to go
[04:43] <blah569> Does WINE support Flash CS3 yet?  I did some reading that said that it will in the near future, and is it the near future yet?
[04:44] <swilky> hey all :)
[04:44] <schweeb> ka2: I do data backup/recovery/etc... and have seen no major isues with ntfs
[04:44] <ka2> schweeb: the computer lost power - > unmountable fs
[04:44] <soldats> niuq: ahh if noone has an answer here id suggest asking in #compiz    also maybe try doing 'metacity --replace' and re-initialize compiz
[04:44] <schweeb> any filesystem has that possibility
[04:44] <swilky> dose any one know if i can find out if my nfs-kernal-server is running
[04:44] <soldats> blah569: you can check the wine site for that info
[04:44] <swilky> ?
[04:44] <schweeb> ntfs no worse than the rest
[04:44] <niuq> soldats: i'll try in #compiz
[04:44] <swilky> or its working?
[04:45] <blah569> I did, but it says that the results are "majorly outdated." on the site.
[04:45] <soldats> swilky: do "lsb_release -a" in terminal
[04:45] <soldats> swilky: or uname -a
[04:45] <soldats> see if its listed there
[04:46] <wiston> hola
[04:46] <swilky> Linux wilkinson 2.6.22-14-server #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:34:23 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:46] <swilky> thas all
[04:46] <wiston> que son repositorios
[04:47] <soldats> !es | wiston
[04:47] <ubotu> wiston: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:47] <swilky> so that means its not working?
[04:47] <techqbert> if I am "make install"ing in terminal over SSH, does that make install stop?
[04:47] <soldats> swilky: did you do a server install or a desktop install
[04:47] <swilky> server
[04:47] <swilky> cli
[04:48] <soldats> swilky: did you have the kernal option in grub when you did a reboot
[04:48] <swilky> no that i know of?
[04:48] <soldats> techqbert: no it shouldnt
[04:49] <tcpdumpgod> Where can I find my monitors current resolution?
[04:49] <izinucs> tcpdumpgod, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:49] <Eva1> Greetings. I've installed Ubuntu 8.04 beta on my hp dv2225nr laptop, desktop amd64 version, and now I'm having trouble getting my wireless driver to work... can anyone lend a hand?
[04:49] <swilky> i just apt-get install nfs-kernal-server
[04:49] <blah569> I am just nervous that something will go terribly wrong.
[04:49] <soldats> tcpdumpgod: does your monitor have a button on front of it, most monitors have one so if you press it it should say te res
[04:49] <blah569> terribly *
[04:49] <swilky> then i edited the exports
[04:49] <blah569> bah
[04:50] <swilky> and restarted the nfs=kernal-server
[04:50] <izinucs> blah569, sometimes you just have to bite the bullit.. perallisis by analysis won't get you anywhere.
[04:50] <techqbert> soldats: agh sorry I incorrectly stated my problem.  I mistakenly closed the window
[04:50] <swilky> n it said [ok]
[04:50] <tcpdumpgod> cool, that did it soldats, thanks!
[04:50] <sixforty> Is there a vm pre-packaged for Ubuntu?
[04:50] <Dimitree> is there a channel for 8.04 ?
[04:50] <soldats> swilky: i think you need to compile the kernal and add it to the boot menu
[04:50] <levander> Dimitree: #ubuntu+1
[04:50] <ethan961> !hardy
[04:50] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:51] <Dimitree> thank you L(
[04:51] <Dimitree> :)
[04:51] <soldats> tcpdumpgod: np
[04:51] <swilky> :(
[04:51] <swilky> thats hard
[04:51] <blah569> Has anyone used Wubi in this IRC?  Did anything go wrong?  :P
[04:51] <swilky> hold on ill reboot and see if it comes up in the menu
[04:51] <schweeb> blah569: I used it 10 mins ago
[04:51] <schweeb> works just fine
[04:52] <schweeb> I'm back in Vista now though
[04:52] <levander> I enabled auto-installing security updates, but every time I login, that little notification thing in the top right keeps saying there are updates available.  Are some updates not security updates?  Is that why the auto-install security updates doesn't install all updates?
[04:52] <trakinas> Scunizi: worked. but low volume recording. :/
[04:52] <blah569> gaaah, I want to use Ubuntu very bad, but I'm just rather nervous.  I've used Ubuntu on a live cd, but you can't fully expierence it from just that.
[04:52] <tcpdumpgod> soldats, i've got another one for you.
[04:52] <darmi> hello has anyone got java to work on x86 & x86_64
[04:53] <tcpdumpgod> How can I change GDM's default resolution?
[04:53] <blah569> I think I am going to install it.
[04:53] <tcpdumpgod> It isnt the same as what it is in my gnome2 session.
[04:53] <soldats> darmi: did you get java6
[04:53] <schweeb> blah569: it's safter than resizing filesystems and repartitioning
[04:53] <darmi> yup
[04:53] <schweeb> *safer
[04:53] <ArmoredSaint> If you really want to try ubuntu, download the vmware player...It's free.
[04:53] <levander> blah569: Do you have any unreplacable data on your Windows box?  Like data that if you lost, you'd suffer personally?
[04:53] <izinucs> trakinas, I'm in two places at once.. my current nick is Scunizi backwards..... cool glad part of it is working
[04:53] <Piffer> Anyone here good with xorg.conf ? I've got two videocards and three monitors... the monitor on the 2nd card is listed as CRT, but it's an LCD... so the res is only 640 rather than 1280
[04:53] <schweeb> blah569: you have a higher chance of hosing a filesystem during a resize
[04:54] <soldats> !java > darmi this worked for me a while back
[04:54] <blah569> Well, I can also redownload my important web stuff via ftps, but I have some flas that might be considered important.
[04:54] <darmi> right on
[04:54] <RandoCal> blah569: backup your criticals and give it a try
[04:54] <soldats> tcpdumpgod: do you mean the basic resolution or just for GDM?
[04:54] <RandoCal> i just installed the other day and am very very happy
[04:54] <schweeb> blah569: have you considered a virtual machine?
[04:54] <levander> blah569: Yeah, start with learning how to do good backups.
[04:54] <darmi> i've here
[04:54] <schweeb> blah569: VMWare, VirtualPC, etc...
[04:54] <darmi> :(
[04:54] <trakinas> izinucs: mic volume is okay, the other output is not
[04:55] <izinucs> Piffer, there's a line toward the top of xorg that shows how to redo it.. have you tried that? if not make a backup of xorg before doing it.
[04:55] <levander> blah569: Even if you stay on Windows, you need to know that in case of something like a hard drive crash.
[04:55] <blah569> I've used vBox before, but it lags badly on Vista.
[04:55] <schweeb> blah569: both of those run Ubuntu in a Window under Windows
[04:55] <GYTA_CHANIZ> #surabaya
[04:55] <tcpdumpgod> just for GDM, my resolution inside of gnome is correct.
[04:55] <blah569> It ran great on XP, though D:
[04:55] <ArmoredSaint> Virtual PC sucks...no usb support.
[04:55] <izinucs> trakinas, what are you using to record?  audacity?
[04:55] <levander> blah569: i just upgraded from 1.5.4 to vbox 1.5.6 - I/O (like disk, network) is noticably better on 1.5.6.
[04:55] <orion1> hey guys i have a ubuntu server install running on a computer.
[04:55] <trakinas> izinucs: arecord. tested with audacity too
[04:55] <blah569> ok
[04:56] <izinucs> trakinas, what's the other source?
[04:56] <schweeb> blah569: go to vmware.com
[04:56] <schweeb> blah569: get vmware player
[04:56] <orion1> I want to set it up so i can do vncserver to have a desktop on it remotely any idea of what package i need to install?
[04:56] <schweeb> blah569: and find a Ubuntu appliance
[04:56] <orion1> ubuntu-desktop ?
[04:56] <trakinas> izinucs: sound comming from skype test call
[04:56] <levander> Nobody knows why even though I have auto-installing security updates configured, that every time I login, that little notification thing in the upper right is always telling me I have updates available?
[04:56] <soldats> Piffer: try "man xorg" in terminal and it may give a solution
[04:57] <blah569> When installing on an emulator, how exactly does that work?  Is the OS stored on like a virtual disk?
[04:57] <sixforty> Armored Saint, know if there's vmware player packaged to run under Ubuntu?
[04:57] <schweeb> there should be a vmware ubuntu appliance somewhere
[04:57] <soldats> levander: when you click the icon does it give you updates
[04:58] <izinucs> trakinas, oh.. now it makes sense.  skype is natoriously difficult to record  .. there are ad-on for it to allow that but I think they only work in windows.. pulseaudio might take care of it.. or you might consider giving Gizmo a shot.. that has a record feature built in but the audio quality isn't always up to par.
[04:58] <schweeb> sixforty: you mean the vmware player binaries for ubuntu?
[04:58] <levander> blah569: virtualbox creates a .vdi file.  The .vdi file looks like a hard disk to the guest OS.  Windows OS files and all the applications and data files all live in the .vdi file.  But, the Windows guest opens up the .vdi file and it looks like a hard disk to Windows.
[04:58] <blah569> ok
[04:58] <sixforty> I'm running Ubuntu and need a vm.
[04:58] <soldats> blah569: yes i belioeve its on a virtual disk
[04:58] <levander> soldats: Yeah, when I click the icon, the dialog pops up and tells me what updates are available.
[04:58] <blah569> What about vmware player, I am downloading it right now.
[04:58] <big-boss_> guys, I dual boot my pc, I have a little problem. On windows, utorrent has the little green arrow that indicates port forwarding is good, on linux, the thing is red, and no port forwarding. I have the same IP and the same ports on both machines and ports are open in my router config. Any ideas?
[04:59] <levander> blah569: Never tried VMWare personally.
[04:59] <ArmoredSaint> the best way to go is vmware player and get the qemu utility to create the image file...
[04:59] <levander> blah569: I'd bet it's something similar though.
[04:59] <blah569> I've used vbox before, but vbox lags on Vista.  Is the newer version better?
[04:59] <trakinas> izinucs: i remember a link with this tool for linux too. but is too late for me to check them on the internet. i whished i could use gizmo, but the other person does not has it. :/
[04:59] <schweeb> blah569: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/
[05:00] <blah569> ok
[05:00] <soldats> big-boss_: you ma need to tell the ubuntu firewall to forward the ports, id suggest iptables for it ir the front end for it
[05:00] <trakinas> will give pulseaudio a try later. also, my soundcard sucks in anyways.. too much static. TOO MUCH.
[05:00] <izinucs> levander, ArmoredSaint blah569 you can also get vmware server if you're running winxp pro or vista and install from your downloaded cd..
[05:00] <levander> soldats: I just looked, it does say "Important security updates" at the top of the list of updates.  So, I imagine they are secuirty updates?
[05:00] <soldats> levander: yes id think so
[05:00] <big-boss_> thanks soldats i'll try it now
[05:00] <izinucs> trakinas, free download.. if the other is on linux you might also try ekiga
[05:01] <schweeb> blah569: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1066
[05:01] <soldats> !firestarter > big-boss_
[05:01] <ArmoredSaint> that true izi..thanks..forgot about that.
[05:01] <izinucs> trakinas, gizmo is also free
[05:01] <sixforty> Anyone here running vmware on an Ubuntu system?
[05:01] <izinucs> sixforty, I am
[05:01] <levander> soldats: In "Software Sources" I clicked on "Install security updates without confirmation."  Why is that not auto-installing all these security updates?
[05:01] <ArmoredSaint> I do...
[05:01] <blah569> thanks
[05:01] <schweeb> yea, I'd only recommend VMWare server for instances where there aren't already packaged appliances
[05:01] <ArmoredSaint> I've got an XP vm running on Ubuntu using vmware.
[05:01] <trakinas> izinucs: yep! i used gizmo for sometime. i will try to convince the other person to install gizmo. ekiga would work like a charm... =(
[05:01] <schweeb> it's a bit tougher to install
[05:02] <blah569> Will that lag on Vista with like 1024 MB of RAM?  I plan on buying 4 GB soon, but in the mean time, would that lag?
[05:02] <izinucs> sixforty, I have win2kpro in a vm on ubuntu
[05:02] <sixforty> vmware pre-packaged or from source?
[05:02] <soldats> levander: no clue, are you runnin it with sudo. is this hardy by any chance?
[05:02] <izinucs> blah569, no
[05:02] <schweeb> sixforty: neither
[05:03] <schweeb> sixforty: there's a binary tarbal
[05:03] <schweeb> l
[05:03] <izinucs> sixforty, download server from www.vmware.com  don't forget to register for the license number
[05:03] <soldats> !vmware
[05:03] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:03] <levander> soldats: no, gutsy.  And, I just get to the "Software Sources" dialog via the System->Administration menu.  So, I'm prompted for sudo passwd when it needs it...  So yeah, I'm running it with sudo.
[05:03] <soldats> see here
[05:03] <sixforty> oops. Gutsy. thx anyway
[05:03] <izinucs> soldats, thanks.. we're talking server instead of player
[05:03] <trakinas> izinucs: hmmmm... i was able to clean almost all the noise on audacity. that is cool.
[05:03] <soldats> levander: hmm weird
[05:04] <izinucs> trakinas, nice program
[05:04] <trakinas> izinucs: i have to go. should already be on bed. he!
[05:04] <trakinas> izinucs: cheers! and thank you!! :]
[05:04] <sixforty> I really just need the player.
[05:04] <izinucs> trakinas, nity nite
[05:04] <soldats> levander: no errors? have you checked? also are the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list un-commented?
[05:05] <izinucs> sixforty, with the player you have to download an ubuntu appliance.. with server you can install ubuntu or anything  else from cd
[05:05] <blah569> Can something like vmware totatly destroy the system?  Something unfixable?  Should I be fine?
[05:05] <levander> soldats: I don't know where to check for errors since all that stuff runs in the background.  And yeah, the security repositories are definitely enabled in sources.list here.
[05:06] <schweeb> blah569: no more than most other applications.  It has some tie-ins at the kernel level
[05:06] <schweeb> blah569: but I've never, ever heard of vmware harming the host OS
[05:06] <izinucs> sixforty, actually I should say that there are no wndows appliances unless you make your own..
[05:06] <sixforty> If server gets me there, fine. How do I get it on my box?
[05:07] <soldats> levander: strange, i had a person in my loco with a similar problem, im still looking into it. if possible i can get back to you on it. you may also try tomorrow when more users are around.
[05:07] <Dr_willis> read the info at the !vmware factoid?
[05:07] <soldats> sixforty: i had ubot_u give you the link please read it
[05:08] <izinucs> sixforty, http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
[05:08] <sixforty> thx.
[05:08] <izinucs> np
[05:09] <izinucs> sixforty, to set it up you'll need to install build-essential from terminal.. sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[05:09] <honeone_> screen
[05:10] <sixforty> OK, I'm with ya as far as sudo :P
[05:11] <big-boss_> ok I used iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1250 -j ACCEPT
[05:11] <big-boss_> same thing for UDP
[05:11] <izinucs> sixforty, build-essential is a collection of libraries and things that allow for compiling programs.. vmware server does some of it's own compiling on install.. pretty automated.
[05:11] <big-boss_> it's still kinda blocked, but the speed is good
[05:11] <sixforty> Come to think of it, I dunno the direct way to sudo
[05:11] <Zoiks> i keep getting a message saying that i cant fdisk a drive because its busy, even straight after i reset
[05:11] <soldats> big-boss_: yea youmay have to reatart the torrent app to have it read it
[05:11] <big-boss_> it's ok for now
[05:11] <levander> Is there any GNOME plugin such the when I left click on the desktop with the mouse, it gives me a list of all open application windows?  Similar to the function Alt-Tab performs with the keyboard?
[05:11] <sixforty> apt-get?
[05:11] <big-boss_> thanks a lot soldats
[05:12] <izinucs> sixforty, just like I typed it.. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:12] <soldats> levander: its possible with other window manager but for GNOME im not sure. enlightenment has it
[05:13] <izinucs> sixforty, one line
[05:13] <ampmaniac3> hi! where can i find the error logs of dns?
[05:13] <ampmaniac3> or bind9
[05:13] <izinucs> ampmaniac3, /var/log?
[05:13] <ampmaniac3> thanks
[05:13] <amenado> ampmaniac3-> is it logging?
[05:14] <big-boss_> @soldats: Thanks, restarted the app, and now every thing works perfectly
[05:14] <sixforty> I get an error  .../dpkg  unable to lock
[05:14] <ampmaniac3> im want ot see the error logs because i just installed the bind9 lately but it fails on start
[05:14] <izinucs> sixforty, do you have synaptic open or add/remove?
[05:15] <soldats> big-boss_: no problem man i hope everyting else works for you. you know where to come for help :D
[05:15] <levander> What is this "Super" key I keep reading about in the Compiz doc's?
[05:15] <soldats> levander: its the "win" key
[05:15]  * sixforty closes Synaptic
[05:15] <schweeb> levander: there are apps to do that type of thing, but I don't recall any doing so via the "root window" or desktop, like enlightenment does
[05:15] <levander> This keyboard don't have a win key.
[05:15] <soldats> the one with the logo of windows levander
[05:16] <levander> soldats: It's not on this keyboard.
[05:16] <soldats> is it a laptop
[05:16] <schweeb> you might have to rebind super
[05:16] <levander> All these years, I been avoiding Microsoft logos on keyboards and now Linux is trying to make me get one.  Sucks.
[05:16] <soldats> if so im not sure it may be at the top of te keybopard
[05:16] <big-boss_> hahaha @soldats
[05:16] <levander> soldats: No, it's one of those old buckling spring IBM keyboards.  They don't make keyboards like this anymore.
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> model M?
[05:17] <soldats> levander: the super key is not necessarily windows its a "super" key or meta4 key
[05:17] <big-boss_> you'll have to rebind them
[05:17] <sixforty> build-essential already in newest version
[05:17] <levander> schweeb: How do I rebind it?
[05:17] <izinucs> sixforty, then you're set for the vmware install..
[05:17] <levander> soldats: Where is the meta4 key on my keyboard?
[05:17] <schweeb> xkb somethingorother
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> levander, you can get model-m keyboards still.
[05:17] <soldats> levander: se big-boss_ post youll rebind them
[05:17] <big-boss_> in your desktop enhancement settings
[05:17] <levander> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, but that pckeyboard.com site you get them from is shady.
[05:17] <soldats> levander: the meta4 is the win/super key. see above
[05:18] <big-boss_> select the effect you want
[05:18] <levander> soldats: I already told you, I don't have one of those.
[05:18] <big-boss_> then in the tab go to ptions
[05:18] <big-boss_> options*
[05:18] <izinucs> sixforty, did you get server downloaded?  did  you register so they would email the "key"?
[05:18] <big-boss_> sorry Actions*
[05:18] <levander> big-boss_: Are you talking to me?
[05:18] <big-boss_> yeah
[05:18] <Lovely_ine> .
[05:19] <sixforty> tar binary?
[05:19] <soldats> levander: yea see big-boss_
[05:19] <levander> big-boss_: Let me go back and see what you said.
[05:19] <izinucs> sixforty, let me check hang on
[05:19] <ampmaniac3> why does bind9 fails on initial start? i just installed it yesterday and havent configured it yet
[05:19] <Daisuke_Ido> offtopic, but... http://steampunkworkshop.com/keyboard.shtml is possibly the single coolest keyboard mod i've EVER seen
[05:19] <xb3rt> whats a good c compiler
[05:20] <izinucs> sixforty, I think so.. I'm on a win laptop right now and the site defaults to a .exe..
[05:20] <ampmaniac3> where can i find bind9 error logs
[05:20] <ka2> gcc
[05:20] <robinhoodlum> gcc works
[05:20] <ArmoredSaint> yeah gcc works fine..
[05:20] <levander> Oh, big-boss.  I see what you're saying.  But, is there a way just to tell Ubuntu that my "Super" key is somewhere else on my keyboard?  So I don't have to go back and rebind each and every individual action?
[05:20] <sixforty> I've never installed a binary.
[05:20] <robinhoodlum> btw, hiya :P
[05:20] <ppd> ygtk
[05:21] <jhonijim> what about das keyboard II
[05:21] <amenado> ampmaniac3-> did you look at bind9 config file to see if it is supposed to be logging? or maybe you start bind with -debug ?
[05:21] <rhineheart_m> why is it that my server is connecting this <IP_ADDRESS> using port 123? any idea>
[05:21] <martman> every time i boot my desktop i end up in low graphics mode. i then have to change my monitor from a generic one to mine and change resultion. then resart x.....to be repated agin
[05:21] <martman> anyone know why?
[05:21] <izinucs> sixforty, there's a "register for free seriall number" link at the top of that screen
[05:21] <levander> JohnRobert_: That's a neat keyboard.  I just hate how they've written they're name all over it in big white letters.
[05:21] <big-boss_> @levander: I'm afraid for that, you'll have to ask a more experienced linux user, sorry man.
[05:21] <Hansel> martman - edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf mebbe?
[05:21] <levander> big-boss_: Yeah, okay.  Thanks.
[05:22] <izinucs> sixforty, I think the download is compressed.. try right mouse clicking on the file and extract
[05:22] <sixforty> thx; woulda missed that link
[05:22] <martman> Hansel isnt that what the tools are doing and maybe something overwritting everytime
[05:22] <schweeb> you can use the XkbOptions feature in xorg.conf
[05:22] <schweeb> unfortunately I don't have time to track down the specific options
[05:22] <ampmaniac3> amenado: i  started it with /etc/init.d/bind9 start
[05:22] <sixforty> and once it's extracted?
[05:22] <xb3rt> I have gcc installed, how do i open it
[05:22] <soldats> schweeb: "man xorg.conf" should tell you
[05:22] <Hansel> martman - dunno... look at the last modification date for the file.
[05:23] <rhineheart_m> why is it that my server is connecting this <IP_ADDRESS> using port 123? any idea?
[05:23] <izinucs> sixforty, the rest you have to do from the termina/command line..
[05:23] <amenado> ampmaniac3-> dont know what options you can have with it, look at your bind9 script
[05:23] <izinucs> sixforty, did you download to the desktop?
[05:23] <sixforty> Ah, good! Home at last!
[05:23] <schweeb> soldats: I doubt it's understandably documented in there as such
[05:23] <schweeb> http://rubenlaguna.com/wp/2007/01/09/how-to-enable-windows-key-as-super-key-in-linux/
[05:23] <ampmaniac3> ok.. thanks
[05:23] <sixforty> sure, desktop
[05:23] <schweeb> here's an example of someone who has done it before
[05:24] <schweeb> but you'll have to modify it some
[05:24] <sixforty> I'll move it where I can find it.
[05:24] <schweeb> as their super key wasn't mapped to windows
[05:24] <schweeb> but that example should help some
[05:24] <izinucs> sixforty, ok.. in terminal.. cd Desktop
[05:24] <schweeb> at least give you an idea of what to look for
[05:24] <schweeb> night
[05:25] <izinucs> sixforty, once there.. ls to view the files on the desktop.. find the uncompressed directory and cd <directory name>
[05:25] <kindofabuzz> man vnc is so cool =)
[05:25] <sixforty> uncompressed directory?
[05:26] <izinucs> yes
[05:26] <izinucs> sixforty, if you extraced the file on the desktop you should have two directories on the desktop.  one compressed and the new uncompressed one..
[05:28] <izinucs> sixforty, was there another download available that was a tar.gz file?
[05:29] <sixforty> gunzip: unexpected EOF
[05:29] <ubuntucool123> my laptop is a compaq evo n800v. It has compaq quick access buttons on it. are there any drivers to get them working in ubuntu
[05:29] <izinucs> sixforty, see my last line
[05:29] <NIKA_> HIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[05:30] <sixforty> management interface (allows control from web browser) <-- other tarball
[05:30] <ubuntucool123> ?
[05:31] <izinucs> sixforty, nope not that one.. what is the name of the file that downloaded?
[05:32] <sixforty> VMware-server-1.0.5-80187.tar.gz
[05:33] <izinucs> sixforty, when you right mouse clicked on the file and chose extract, you got an error?
[05:34] <sixforty> correct
[05:34] <izinucs> sixforty, well we're most of the way there.. we've gotta figure out why you're getting that error.. You need to be able to extract the file.
[05:35] <Edson_Slipknot> Opa
[05:35] <Edson_Slipknot> Eae Galera
[05:35] <Edson_Slipknot> Como Vão!?
[05:35] <izinucs> can anyone help with an error (eof) when trying to extract a tar.gz.. sixforty needs to resolve this.
[05:36] <izinucs> !es | Edson_Slipknot
[05:36] <ubotu> Edson_Slipknot: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:36] <Edson_Slipknot> gracias
[05:36] <Dr_willis> izinucs,  sounds like a bad download.
[05:36] <izinucs> Dr_willis, thanks
[05:36] <Dr_willis> use the terminal to exttraxt the thing, you will need to be using the terminal to set up vmware eventually anyway
[05:37] <Dr_willis> I thought there were some repos that had the vmware server/client in it.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> I seem to rember just apt-get installing it befor
[05:37] <sixforty> used terminal first time, the clicky-movey thing after that
[05:37] <izinucs> Dr_willis, we're in terminal.. but I dont know how to extract from there.  only player in repos
[05:37] <FYI> well, my wireless card appears to have disappeared... out of nowhere
[05:37] <FYI> help?
[05:38] <FYI> I didn't really do anything... It doesn't even recognize the card anymore
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:38] <Dr_willis> I cheat and use the unp command :)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> tar xzvf whatever.tar.gz
[05:39] <izinucs> Dr_willis, is there a "-" before xzvf?
[05:39] <FYI> no izinucs
[05:39] <izinucs> k
[05:39] <izinucs> sixforty, you catch this?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> izinucs,  there is not. :) not needed a - there for ages.
[05:40] <izinucs> thanks
[05:40] <Dr_willis> because they are options, not flags.. I think is why theres no -
[05:40] <ppd> hi. does anyone know a good pygtk dragndrop tutorial?
[05:40] <izinucs> sixforty, ping
[05:40] <Dr_willis> or something like that. :)
[05:40] <cocox> Hi there, im using Ubuntu Gutsy, i ve made an fat32 partition over the last 30 GB of my 160 GB HD... when i run windows installer it says that no Harddrive has been found and please check with the manufacturer utility.... what can be going on??
[05:41] <soldats> !vmware
[05:41] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:41] <gluer> cocox: i only made a 32mb partition and my 160gig worked
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[05:42] <Dr_willis> cocox,  you may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
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[05:42] <FYI> (01:42:33 AM) You need to be a channel operator to do that :(
[05:42] <robinhoodlum> lol
[05:43] <cocox> Dr_willis, here it is =) thanks http://pastebin.com/m12f09c2e
[05:43] <Dr_willis> I have to wonder.. if it wasent real.. wouldit also not be legal?
[05:44] <sixforty> I'll be able to get a valid, uncompressed file, but what do I do with it?
[05:44] <sixforty> Problem's the file itself. I'll try new d/l, if no go then older version.
[05:44] <brunner> what program should I use to connect to a serial port
[05:44] <Twan> SerialPortConnect 2.0
[05:44] <Edson_Slipknot> #inferno_digital
[05:44] <astro76> brunner: gtkterm, minicom
[05:44] <elkbuntu_> Dr_willis, those sorts of sites usually dont last more than half an hour after they get spammed around. they're usually really poorly made and breakable
[05:44] <brunner> astro76: thanks!
[05:45] <FYI> anyone hear of NICs disappearing with recent updates?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> cocox,  windows may not like   /dev/sda7           15634       19457    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS, since its a logical partition.  you have one of the most complex drive layouts ive seen in a LONG time..
[05:45] <Dr_willis> cocox,  whate version of windows you installing?
[05:45] <Hansel> okay, I'm ultra bored... anybody wanna play me in Frozen Bubble?
[05:45] <endra_fz> #surabaya
[05:45] <rhineheart_m> Hello.. I just decided to remove webmin.. can anybody here points me to a guide?
[05:46] <izinucs> sixforty, did you get my private message?  look on the left if using xchat or bottom for a tab that says my nick
[05:46] <cocox> Dr_willis, im trying to install XP.... befeore seveal times i ve installed XP on a logical partition
[05:46] <robinhoodlum> you'll need an ntfs partition to do that won't you?
[05:46] <sixforty> Using Pidgin-cum-bit-bucket
[05:47] <izinucs> arg..
[05:47] <Dr_willis> cocox,  i always just put them in primaries. The drive layout may be the issue.   You could try formating tha paittion to ntfs.
[05:47] <sixforty> dunno where ta find the pm
[05:47] <izinucs> sixforty, in terminal try .. tar xzvf <filename> ... and see if it extracts.. if it doesn't it's a bad download. download again, extract move to the extracted directory and then to start the install ... sudo <filename.pl>  .. I think the file name has a pl at the end or possibily a .sh.. use the one that is appropriate
[05:47] <cocox> Dr_willis, is in NTFS isn't?
[05:48] <izinucs> sixforty, when it's installing it will ask some questions.. accept the defaults.
[05:48] <fsk141> hello
[05:48] <robinhoodlum> hi
[05:48] <cocox> Dr_willis, do you think there is any problem if that partition is too far away?
[05:48] <fsk141> anyone ever heard of archlinux
[05:48] <Dr_willis> cocox,  is it formated to ntfs?
[05:48] <fsk141> www.minifsk.com
[05:48] <mindrape> yes fsk141
[05:48] <cocox> Dr_willis, i mean it is supoused to be near to de 1024 MB to be recognized??
[05:48] <Dr_willis> cocox,  hard to tell. I always have the habbit of putting windows on the first primary partition - to be super-safe
[05:48] <izinucs> sixforty, sorry I gotta go to bed.. early morning tomorrow.  there are others here that can help if you get stuck.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> cocox,  the 1024 limit - is not an issue i thought.. but heck it may still be.
[05:48] <fsk141> uses archlinux, ive put ubuntu on it also, it works, just not as well
[05:49] <Dr_willis> cocox,  actaually it was a 1024 cylinder limit i recall.. not 1024mb. :)
[05:49] <cocox> Dr_willis, i think is an issue in older drives
[05:49] <GCtoday> Hello again. My system crashed and I rebuilt it.  Last time I installed irssi I had to alter some settings. I am here because those settings to do with "universe" are quite difficult to find.  I need a little prompting. Are they in Synaptic Packet Manager??
[05:49] <robinhoodlum> it's not an issue these days, but i think you're right about it needing a primary partition
[05:49] <Dr_willis> cocox,  thats possible.
[05:49] <cocox> Dr_willis, yeah lol cant remember!
[05:49] <cocox> Dr_willis, right im gonna try with a primary partition
[05:49] <cocox> Dr_willis, thank you =)
[05:52] <GCtoday> Is anyone there?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> GCtoday,  where?
[05:52] <ethan961> yeah, its 1024 cylinders, but its the bios's problem
[05:53] <anu> Theres is posible to have desktop efects on "intel corporation 82p965 integrated graphics"??????
[05:53] <ethan961> if its intel most likely
[05:53] <chri1> Get email on any phone without Internet . check my brand new short tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qp25S1JlQE
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> gtk-gnutella with a updates hosts file is the bomb.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> now how sluggish they willbe.. is the question.
[05:54] <anu> got direct rendering on glxinfo
[05:54] <anu> BUT it sayd desktop cant be enabled
[05:54] <anu> any clue?
[05:54] <anu> desktop effects*
[05:54] <astro76> anu: it's still blacklisted in gutsy I believe, in hardy it works out of the box
[05:54] <anu> oh
[05:54] <ka2> any clue about what?
[05:54] <trippin445> can anyone tell me why i get this error when trying to get into monitor mode?usage: airmon-ng <start|stop> <interface> [channel]
[05:54] <trippin445> Interface       Chipset         Driver
[05:54] <trippin445> ra1             Ralink b/g      rt2500SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[05:54] <trippin445>  (monitor mode enabled)
[05:54] <anu> where can i whitelist it?
[05:54] <FloodBot1> trippin445: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <anu> theres some config file i remember
[05:55] <ethan961> xorg.conf?
[05:55] <astro76> ka2: I think most of the blacklisted cards were due to issues playing video
[05:55] <astro76> ka2: with compiz enabled
[05:55] <anu> is not xorg
[05:55] <anu> its a compiz config file
[05:55] <anu> its on ati howtos
[05:55] <anu> gonna check them
[05:55] <anu> thanks =)
[05:56] <trippin445> can anyone tell me why i get this error when trying to get into monitor mode? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61441/
[05:58] <xeer> HELLO!! can anyone explain to me why when i go to a tty my lcd screen turns off? also I don't get anything on my screen until I'm at the gdm login.
[05:58] <sh4nk> looking for a little help. got twin view working. everythings good, except my bar to close/minimize/maximize/restore is gone on some windows
[05:59] <GCtoday> I just typed in the command 'sudo aptitude install irssi'. It is saying that there is no package whose name and description matched irssi I have definately downloaded it and unpacked it?? Why is this happening?
[05:59] <trippin445> can anyone tell me why i get this error when trying to get into monitor mode? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61441/
[05:59] <sh4nk> ... and it's only on a single monitor
[06:00] <iositd> GCtoday, did you download the package manually?
[06:00] <GCtoday> Yep to the desktop.
[06:00] <iositd> GCtoday, then double click on the package. apt only downloads from the web
[06:01] <Dr_willis> GCtoday,  all you needed to do was 'sudo apt-get install irssi' it should auto-download and install it.
[06:01] <GCtoday> The package has the name irssi-0.8.12.tar.gz
[06:01] <GCtoday> Nope already tried that.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> GCtoday,  thats definiatly the wrong file
[06:02] <Dr_willis> and irssi IS in the repos.
[06:02] <m0lecule_m> Hello... I need a little help... every time I try to watch a video, it only works in fullscreen... anyone have any ideas?
[06:02] <GCtoday> Oh no
[06:02] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search irssi
[06:02] <Dr_willis> irssi - terminal based IRC client
[06:02] <GCtoday> Yes it is
[06:02] <iositd> Dr_willis, it's not per se ...
[06:02] <iositd> !find irssi
[06:02] <Dr_willis> !find irssi
[06:02] <ubotu> Found: sh:
[06:02] <Dr_willis> heh.. bot is still.. missing features.
[06:02] <iositd> GCtoday, did you download the source?
[06:02] <iositd> GCtoday, and have you enabled the other repo's?
[06:03] <GCtoday> Nope
[06:03] <Dr_willis>  i cant tell which repo its in. GCtoday  you may need to do like iositd  says.
[06:03] <GCtoday> That is what I am yet to do.
[06:03] <iositd> GCtoday, alright. Go to software sources under adminstration and enable them.
[06:03] <zcat[1]> !find ubotu
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: sh:
[06:03] <zcat[1]> oh dear
[06:04] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: what video player are you using and what format is the video in?
[06:04] <GCtoday> Yep found the settings.
[06:05] <GCtoday> From memory there were 3 boxes to cross all to do with universe.
[06:05] <iositd> GCtoday, alright. That's good. Then go to terminal, and execute ----->     sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install irssi
[06:05] <m0lecule_m> It pretty much happens in any video player in any format... I've tried quicktime, xvid, wmv, avi... all in Mplayer, VLC, and Kaffeine...
[06:06] <AdrianStrays> What is a mini iso?
[06:06] <Chris|> a small iso
[06:06] <Chris|> heh
[06:06] <GCtoday> Just a second, I am unsure which boxes to cross?
[06:06] <AdrianStrays> Duh....
[06:06] <iositd> AdrianStrays, it's an iso designed to just booth the system.
[06:06] <iositd> GCtoday, aah ... cross all the boxes :-)
[06:06] <AdrianStrays> Thanks...
[06:06]  * nickrud wonders why anyone would want to put the system in a booth
[06:06] <Chris|> usually a mini iso downloads most packages through the internet
[06:06] <iositd> *boot
[06:06] <ani1> nickrud: duh to make phone calls
[06:06] <AdrianStrays> Hm
[06:06] <Chris|> or is called a net install
[06:06] <ani1> sheesh
[06:06] <iositd> nickrud, lol ... sorry
[06:07] <AdrianStrays> Thanks...
[06:07] <AdrianStrays> Okay
[06:07] <GCtoday> Also do I uncross them after the installation?
[06:07] <Chris|> yep
[06:07] <nickrud> ani1 doh, stupid me!
[06:07] <AdrianStrays> Another question.
[06:07] <ani1> heh
[06:07] <iositd> GCtoday, no, you can just leave them. They provide you with a lot of new software
[06:07] <AdrianStrays> Why doesn't Ubuntu Studio have a liveCD?
[06:07] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: are you using a composite video manager and if so have you tried experimenting with its settings ... specifically its settings?
[06:07] <GCtoday> Thanks
[06:07] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: oops I meant its plugins
[06:07] <m0lecule_m> composite video manager? like compiz?
[06:07] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: right
[06:07] <astro76> GCtoday: 02:06 < iositd> AdrianStrays, it's an iso designed to just booth the system.
[06:08] <astro76> GCtoday: whoops... 02:06 < iositd> AdrianStrays, it's an iso designed to just booth the system.
[06:08] <astro76> argh
[06:08] <m0lecule_m> yeah... what plugins specifiacally?
[06:08] <iositd> astro76, ?
[06:08] <astro76> GCtoday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[06:08] <astro76> iositd: copy paste failure
[06:08] <m0lecule_m> *specifically?
[06:08] <GCtoday> Okay the information is updating and downloading.
[06:08] <AdrianStrays> Why doesn't Ubuntu Studio have a liveCD?
[06:08] <awmcclain> Any know why apt-get isn't downloading my dependencies?
[06:09] <iositd> GCtoday, if you executed that command then it'll also install irssi
[06:09] <ani1> AdrianStrays: its just a collection of software that you can download from the repositories
[06:09] <Teoz> hey, anyone know of a good utility to control fan speeds ? I tried lm-sensors but I get /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: No sensors found! (modprobe sensor modules?)
[06:09] <ani1> !studio > AdrianStrays
[06:09] <Teoz> I also tried gkrellm but I just can
[06:09] <nickrud> awmcclain apt-get always gets required dependencies as defined by the package
[06:09] <Teoz> cant find plugin that actually controls fan speed
[06:09] <iositd> awmcclain, what do you mean? it should ways download them.
[06:09] <GCtoday> Okay I am just waiting for the process to finish and then I will try irssi
[06:09] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: there's a "Video Playback" plugin .. is that enabled?
[06:10] <nickrud> awmcclain you can see what a package says it depends on with apt-cache depends <packag>
[06:10] <AdrianStrays> an1:
[06:10] <AdrianStrays> Wait
[06:10] <awmcclain> nickrud: Not for me it doesn't. sudo apt-get install libterm-readline-perl-perl
[06:10] <ani1> AdrianStrays: and themes
[06:10] <awmcclain>  libterm-readline-perl-perl: Depends: libterm-readkey-perl but it is not going to be installed
[06:10] <m0lecule_m> yeah... Video Payback is enabled...
[06:10] <backtracker> hi how can I get information about my system caracteristics
[06:10] <AdrianStrays> I thought Ubuntu Studio had an altered kernel to decrease audio latency?
[06:10] <backtracker> ?
[06:10] <m0lecule_m> *Playback
[06:10] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: and what about "Workarounds" plugin?
[06:11] <iositd> awmcclain, have you tried to manually correct the dep prob?
[06:11] <ani1> AdrianStrays: http://ubuntustudio.org/
[06:11] <m0lecule_m> Yep
[06:11] <nickrud> awmcclain all it claims to depend on is perl
[06:11] <awmcclain> lositd: I would, but we're talking about 10-20 dependencies. I'd rather apt worked correctly.
[06:11] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: hmmm do you have an unusual video card?
[06:11] <awmcclain> nickrud: And THAT depends on another package. This is just one of the 10 or so dependencies that are unmet.
[06:12] <backtracker> how-to gather (with a command) my system requirements ?
[06:12] <nickrud> awmcclain ah, it's saying that it depends on stuff it can't find?
[06:12] <m0lecule_m> ATI Radeon 9550
[06:12] <awmcclain> nickrud: No, it can find it, it just won't download it.,
[06:12] <iositd> awmcclain, did you enable the other repo's? and from my experience aptitude has a better dependency fixing then apt-get so you might want to try that
[06:12] <GCtoday> Excellent it is installing now. Thanks heaps for your help.
[06:12] <m0lecule_m> I know ATI is horrible for linux, but it's much better than the really old Nvidia card I have.
[06:12] <iositd> GCtoday, you're welcome
[06:12] <GCtoday> Bye for now.
[06:12] <backtracker> m0lecule_m: please help m
[06:12] <AdrianStrays> I thought Ubuntu Studio had an altered kernel to decrease audio latency?
[06:12] <awmcclain> lositd: Hrm... it looked like on this distro they were all enabled, but let me check
[06:12] <seamus7> m0lecule_m; is "Legacy Fullscreen Support" checked in the Workarounds plugin?
[06:12] <nickrud> awmcclain  put the complete output of the apt-get run on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:13] <ani1> AdrianStrays: where did you see this?
[06:13] <m0lecule_m> No...
[06:13] <Smegzor> How do I get extra compiz plugins?
[06:13] <kindofabuzz> will alien resolve dependancys?
[06:13] <nickrud> kindofabuzz badly
[06:13] <backtracker> Smegzor: kindofabuzz : ani1 : please help me
[06:13] <AdrianStrays> ani1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Studio#Features
[06:14] <iositd> awmcclain, please execute this command for nickrud and me ----> sudo aptitude install pastebinit && sudo aptitude install *insert package name you want* | pastebinit                  (provide link in channel)
[06:14] <soldats> !ccsm > Smegzor have you done this?
[06:14] <awmcclain> nickrud: A ha!  A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> oh ok alien just makes a deb
[06:15] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: try checking it and see if it helps
[06:15] <soldats> !alien
[06:15] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:15] <Smegzor> soldats: yeah but its missing a lot of newer effects like snow.
[06:15] <awmcclain> nickrud: No, what got me into this whole mess was that I had to build a custom ubuntu package for lighttpd, and THAT was what was failing... since i tried to install that with dkpg, it was halting every other apt-get call.
[06:15] <m0lecule_m> k... trying it right now...
[06:15] <crackerjackz> just woke up ,heh
[06:16] <nickrud> ah, that makes very good sense. Have you got rid of that package yet, or fixed it's install?
[06:16] <ani1> AdrianStrays: the only thing i see in the repositories about audio is additional plugins
[06:16] <AdrianStrays> Thats what I saw too
[06:16] <ani1> AdrianStrays: under the desc nothing about a modified or different kernel i have ubuntustudio installed
[06:16] <ani1> nothing different :\
[06:17] <keithclark> What is this evolution-data-serer-2.22 and why does it take up all my cpu's processing power?
[06:17] <awmcclain> nickrud: Getting rid of it lets everything else proceed. So, here's an even better question: Ideally (since I'm automating this), I want to just apt-get install my custom .deb package. What's the easiest way to do that? Specify a local directory in sources? Publish to launchpad PPA?
[06:17] <AdrianStrays> But it seems pointless to make a deriviative if there isn't going to be some actual difference between normal ubuntu
[06:17] <AdrianStrays> Oh well]
[06:18] <nickrud> awmcclain ppa would be good, but search on help.ubuntu.com for personal repository (text search) it shows you how to keep a very simple local repo for a few packages
[06:18] <AdrianStrays> So wikipedia is wrong?
[06:19] <ka2> keithclark: its what handles your data for evolution
[06:19] <awmcclain> nickrud: Yeah, I looked, but most of them were about copying the ubuntu CD locally. Any idea of where I could find the correct directory structure for an apt- repository?
[06:19] <ani1> AdrianStrays: The original version, based on Ubuntu 7.04, was released 2007-05-10. << this makes no sense
[06:19] <awmcclain> nickrud: Don't answer that. Let me look first.
[06:19] <ani1> AdrianStrays: if that were true they would have had a livecd out by now
[06:19] <keithclark> ka2, I don't use evolution and it is making my cpu run 100%
[06:20] <ka2> keithclark: youll have it wether you use it or not. but 100%!
[06:20] <m0lecule_m> Nope still doesn't show anything...
[06:20] <keithclark> ka2, yup....it's been like that for over an hour
[06:20] <AdrianStrays> Maybe they will when Hardy Heron comes out?
[06:20] <ani1> AdrianStrays: i look at it just as a application, theme, and sound bundle so you dont need to manually search for everything and its a complete package
[06:21] <AdrianStrays> But why give it a Alternate Install disk?
[06:21] <kindofabuzz> anyone use mrxvt terminal?
[06:21] <AdrianStrays> Why not just leave it in the repo?
[06:21] <awmcclain> nickrud: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal ! BRILLIANT! You made my night!!!
[06:21] <ani1> AdrianStrays: it could install the rt kernel and that could be what its referring too idk :\
[06:21] <AdrianStrays> Hmmmm
[06:21] <AdrianStrays> Thank you for your help!
[06:22] <jisatsu> Ubuntu keeps saying hdb1 is full, when it clearly has 21Gb free, and it doesn't change no matter what I delete. any ideas?.
[06:22] <ani1> AdrianStrays: they have a download for it if your truly interested in finding out what the difference is http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads
[06:23] <ani1> AdrianStrays: or join #ubuntustudio
[06:23] <david> anyone know of a draft-n miniPCI card usable with ubuntu (native support, no hwcutter/NDIS evulness)
[06:23] <xeer> HELLO!! can anyone explain to me why when i go to a tty my lcd screen turns off? also I don't get anything on my screen until I'm at the gdm login.
[06:23] <keithclark> ka2, sorry, I tried a reboot and this thing is just taken over my system
[06:24] <m0lecule_m> Seamus7: Still, no player will show any type of video.
[06:24] <Motorsport3> hello, I'm trying to figure out the difference between running 'vi' or 'vim'? are they two independent installs on gutsy?
[06:24] <AdrianStrays> I joined ubuntustudio, but no one responded to my questions :(.  I installed Ubuntu Studio from the repositiories, but it did seem more like a package.
[06:25] <pretender> Does anyone now how to get left to right vertical text if open office rows
[06:25] <AdrianStrays> I figured I did something wrong
[06:25] <moni4m> xeer: not getting anything in gdm login screen - what do you mean
[06:25] <cabrioleur> Motorsport3, vi should be just a symlink to vim, by default.
[06:25] <xeer> mon14m lcd doesn't kick on, standby mode
[06:25] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: hold on I'm searching your problem
[06:26] <Motorsport3> thanks cabrioleur, that's what I needed to know, do you know how to check symlinks
[06:26] <Motorsport3> ?
[06:26] <seamus7> m0lecule_m what video driver are you using for that card?
[06:26] <tritium> AdrianStrays: it's likely a set of meta-packages, similar to the metapackages from which you can install kubunt, xubuntu, mythbuntu, etc.
[06:26] <moni4m> xeer: I had similar problem (blank screen) after installing restricted nvidia drivers. There are a lot threads in google. some options/lines in xorg.conf file could help
[06:27] <AdrianStrays> Whats a meta-package?
[06:27] <m0lecule_m> The restricted ATI driver that Envy installed....
[06:27] <m0lecule_m> That's all I know.
[06:27] <tritium> AdrianStrays: a package that contains no files itself, but depends on several other packages.
[06:27] <ani1> !envy | m0lecule_m
[06:27] <ubotu> m0lecule_m: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:28] <moni4m> xeer: I am with laptop, ubuntu gutsy
[06:28] <farkewie> hello what is the best softwsre convert dvds to avidio file for usig on my media centre?
[06:28] <tritium> AdrianStrays: "apt-cache search ubuntustudio" would indicate to me that you can install it, just like the aforementioned.
[06:28] <cabrioleur> Motorsport3, I use ls -l, but there is many ways
[06:28] <m0lecule_m> Well, the ATI driver before didn't work... although that was on 8.04 beta...
[06:29] <ppd> hi. can anyone here give me a little help with pygtk dnd?
[06:29] <SuperSayjin> hello f@h
[06:29] <ani1> Motorsport3: hes right /etc/alternatives$ ls -alh vi
[06:29] <ani1> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2008-03-08 17:59 vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[06:29] <AdrianStrays> Okay, I got a silly question, but why can't I have a user name that starts with a capital letter?
[06:29] <SuperSayjin> oops
[06:29] <m0lecule_m> Should I uninstall the Envy driver and install the one that comes with 7.10?
[06:29] <ani1> m0lecule_m: i would suggest doing that
[06:30] <m0lecule_m> How would I go about doing that?
[06:30] <ani1> m0lecule_m: i used to use envy until i spent 3 hrs one day reversing everything ....open envy and choose uninstall
[06:30] <ani1> m0lecule_m: reboot then go to the restricted drivers manager install the correct driver then reboot again
[06:31] <Motorsport3> thanks cabrioleur & ani1, much appreciated
[06:31] <keithclark> Boy, I could really use some help here.  The process evolution-data-server-2.22 has just taken over my system.  It is consuming all of my processing power bringing everything else to a crawl....
[06:32] <m0lecule_m> But, I'm using Linux Mint... how do I get to the restricted drivers manager? is the driver in the ubuntu repositories?
[06:32] <ani1> keithclark: do you use hardy?
[06:32] <cabrioleur> AdrianStrays, you can, but you will have problems communicating with other systems... so traditionally it's a small letter.
[06:32] <keithclark> anil, yes
[06:33] <ani1> m0lecule_m: do you have  /usr/bin/restricted-manager ?
[06:33] <astro76> keithclark: #ubuntu+1
[06:33] <cabrioleur> AdrianStrays, it comes from idea that Unix can differentiate a capital and small characters, while Windows can't...
[06:34] <SaEeDIRHA> hi
[06:35] <m0lecule_m> no
[06:35] <SaEeDIRHA> when i configure STATIC IP address and changed /etc/networks/interface file how can i send host name to Router?
[06:35] <SaEeDIRHA> because when i use static ip address my computer name does no appear in my router!
[06:35] <seamus7> m0lecule_m: along with ani1's guidance you might find this thread helpful: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5158&highlight=9550
[06:35] <moni4m> HELP: would you like some one to take a loong at this problem. I am using ubuntu gutsy, network bridge with virtual box. Everything is working except almost everytime when I start/stop virtual box I have to do "/etc/init.d/networking restart". Here my interfaces file: http://www.pastebin.ca/961810; Here my ifconfig output - after restart: http://www.pastebin.ca/961811; before networking restart: http://www.pastebin.ca/961812. I am
[06:36] <m0lecule_m> thanks
[06:36] <SaEeDIRHA> any idea?
[06:36] <moni4m> a lot spelling mistakes, sorry for that
[06:36] <AdrianStrays> Alright, new question.  How do I have one workspace have a different background, menu, and group of desktop icons than another?
[06:37] <puput> hllw,lh knln g????
[06:37] <crdlb> AdrianStrays: not possible
[06:37] <AdrianStrays> Really?
[06:37] <kindofabuzz> AdrianStrays: yup, not possible
[06:37] <AdrianStrays> I saw it in videos online.
[06:37] <kindofabuzz> from what i've heard
[06:37] <AdrianStrays> Or
[06:37] <nickrud> AdrianStrays we've wanted that for ages
[06:37] <cabrioleur> AdrianStrays, it is possible.
[06:37] <AdrianStrays> Atleast the background was different
[06:37] <SaEeDIRHA> is it even possible ?
[06:37] <AdrianStrays> I've seen it in videos.
[06:37] <kindofabuzz> was it ubuntu?
[06:37] <ani1> SaEeDIRHA: gksu network-admin
[06:37] <puput> u org ingrz z/????
[06:38] <AdrianStrays> Seems like a no-brainer feature to me.
[06:38] <crdlb> AdrianStrays: there are a few hacks for gnome that allow you to make the desktop background switch when you switch workspaces
[06:38] <crdlb> wallpapoz is one of those
[06:38] <nickrud> AdrianStrays there are scripts that, but they're not exactly stable
[06:38] <AdrianStrays> Hm
[06:38] <AdrianStrays> Why is that so difficult?
[06:38] <crackerjackz> has any one here had a problem with that icetea java plug in making firefox not work properly
[06:39] <nickrud> AdrianStrays the support for it isn't included in the basic window manager
[06:39] <kindofabuzz> use real java?
[06:39] <ArmyMan007> hey guys: how do I uninstall Xubuntu?
[06:39] <ArmyMan007> complitly?
[06:39] <ani1> AdrianStrays: flux capacitors
[06:39] <ArmyMan007> completely?
[06:39] <kindofabuzz> ArmyMan007: sudo apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <crackerjackz> kindofbuzz what do you mean by real java?
[06:39] <astro76> !puregnome | ArmyMan007
[06:39] <ubotu> ArmyMan007: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[06:39] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: sun java
[06:39] <AdrianStrays> Are they installable through the Add/Remove window?
[06:40] <crackerjackz> i went to linksys.com because i know their chat uses java
[06:40] <ArmyMan007> but I want to fully uninstall Xubuntu
[06:40] <crackerjackz> clicked install plugins at the top
[06:40] <ArmyMan007> 7.10 and 7.04
[06:40] <crackerjackz> was icetea java or something of that sort
[06:40] <ArmyMan007> will it help me?
[06:40] <kindofabuzz> ArmyMan007: i just told you how
[06:40] <crackerjackz> its not sun java
[06:40] <kindofabuzz> oh like remove the whole linux system?
[06:40] <moni4m> HELP: anyone willing to check if there is something wrong with my networking? ani1? (long description is above, I can send again)
[06:40] <astro76> ArmyMan007: if you follow the link you'd find right away it covers removing xubuntu also
[06:40] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> yes
[06:40] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: java is Sun
[06:40] <nickrud> kindofabuzz tht doesn't uninstall the packages installed, ArmyMan007 see the puregnome thing above, it includes xubuntu
[06:40] <kindofabuzz> ArmyMan007: format your partiton
[06:41] <ArmyMan007> astro76 -> thanks
[06:41] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> got a helpfull link?
[06:41] <crackerjackz> kindofbuzz well since i installed it my firefox doesent work right
[06:41] <crackerjackz> at all
[06:41] <crackerjackz> like check out this screenshot of google.com
[06:41] <crackerjackz> give me a sec
[06:41] <kindofabuzz> uninstall it and get the real java,
[06:41] <AdrianStrays> Is there a really basic website where I can read about how the file structure works for Linux?  I'm a windows user and I've been using Ubuntu for a week now
[06:41] <AdrianStrays> And I'm having trouble with a few things
[06:41] <kindofabuzz> just making a suggestion, i dunno how to fix it
[06:42] <astro76> !fhs | AdrianStrays
[06:42] <ubotu> AdrianStrays: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[06:42] <nickrud> ArmyMan007 oh, you mean remove an entire install. Just format the partition
[06:42] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz do you know how to uninstall it?
[06:42] <ani1> moni4m: thats strange have you tried settings a static ip in interfaces instead of DHCP ?
[06:42] <farkewie> Can anyone tell what app to use to get my dvds on to my hdd like avi files?
[06:42] <ArmyMan007> nickrud -> got a link for me to do so?
[06:42] <astro76> AdrianStrays: and here http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[06:42] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: how did you install it?
[06:42] <crackerjackz> armyman007 just out of curiosity what OS do you plan on using after you uninstall it
[06:42] <nickrud> ArmyMan007 boot xp or vista, and use the disk formatter
[06:43] <cabrioleur> farkewie, acidrip, k9copy, dvd::rip
[06:43] <AdrianStrays> Thanks
[06:43] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz i installed it by going to linksys.com clicking on the live chat (it uses java) a message bar at the top popped up that said install missing plug ins
[06:43] <crackerjackz> thats what i did
[06:43] <AdrianStrays> Ugh
[06:43] <AdrianStrays> Linux is so complicated
[06:43] <farkewie> cabrioleur: Thanks do you recomend any?
[06:43] <ArmyMan007> nickrud -> i've got a non-working win98
[06:43] <AdrianStrays> Makes my head hurt
[06:43] <ArmyMan007> nickrud -> won't help
[06:43] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> I'm returning to Win98 SE
[06:43] <cabrioleur> farkewie, acidrip is the smallest.
[06:43] <nickrud> ArmyMan007 ok. Just what is the final goal then?
[06:44] <lekremyelsew> hai all, my CD drive wont read any discs. i dunno if it is a hardware or software problem, cud someone halp me out?
[06:44] <kindofabuzz> win 98???
[06:44] <kindofabuzz> jeeez
[06:44] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 why would you want to do that?
[06:44] <ani1> lekremyelsew: did you mount the disk?
[06:44] <kindofabuzz> at least get 2000 or xp
[06:44] <moni4m> ani1: I did not try anything (still new with linux). I follow virtualbox and add br0 interface. Which part is strange (I could search more details in internet) - like having 2 different IP for eth0 and br0? sometimes these two IP are the same. Sometimes it is working fine with two IP addresses.
[06:44] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> it's an old computer
[06:44] <crackerjackz> armyman007 i would use windows xp pro
[06:44] <kindofabuzz> something that's not dos based
[06:44] <crackerjackz> because of the group policy editor
[06:44] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> it's an 8 years computer...
[06:44] <nickrud> ArmyMan007 the reason I ask is what I advise will depend on where you want to end up
[06:44] <kindofabuzz> so?
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> i've installe xp on a p2
[06:45] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> it's a VERY OLD computer...
[06:45] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 how much RAM and CPU do you have?
[06:45] <nbjayme> hello all.
[06:45] <lekremyelsew> ani1: it says "there is probably no media in the drive"
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> ArmyMan007: then linux would be best for that computer
[06:45] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz i agree with you
[06:45] <ani1> moni4m: i don't know if it would even help at all i dont use virtualbox i use vmware :\ but you have your interfaces set up for DHCP if your behind a router, as your 3rd pastebin shows, just set a static and see if it still forces you to restart networking do this by gksu network-admin
[06:45] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> if I would have knowen how to use it... I would have worked with linux
[06:45] <crackerjackz> windoze uses up alot of resources
[06:46] <nbjayme> i am not an advanced linux user. i have installed ipmasq lately and was successful at sharing the internet.  what application or script can i install to require a login page before letting it through the ipmasq?  thanks in advance
[06:46] <kindofabuzz> ArmyMan007: for basic use, ubuntu is like any other OS, point and click
[06:46] <crackerjackz> armymany007 what desktop enviorment are you using
[06:46] <crackerjackz> gnome?
[06:46] <crackerjackz> kde?
[06:46] <kindofabuzz> come on, you're in the army
[06:46] <cabrioleur> ArmyMan007, use fsdisk to remove partitions with linux, and "fdisk /mbr" to fix mbr.
[06:46] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> unfoutunatly, people around here can't help me configuring the internet connection...
[06:46] <kindofabuzz> you're on now?
[06:46] <crackerjackz> armyman007 are you on a wired or wireless connection?
[06:46] <ani1> lekremyelsew: you have tried a cd/dvd that you have not burned yourself? like music or a movie
[06:46] <ArmyMan007> kindofabuzz -> close enough...
[06:47] <iositd> what's the thing with everything being stuffed into so called userspace? is there a main thing i'm missing that makes it better?
[06:47] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> wireless...
[06:47] <nickrud> iositd supposed to improve securiyt for one
[06:47] <maxime> im new with ubuntu, can someone tell me how to install beryl, i wanna try it
[06:47] <ani1> !compiz | maxime
[06:47] <m0lecule_m> anil: could installing xgl help?
[06:47] <ubotu> maxime: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:47] <nickrud> !beryl | maxime
[06:47] <ubotu> maxime: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[06:47] <crackerjackz> armyman007 is it USB or PCI?
[06:47] <Creationist> Are there any decent apps that will help me locate duplicate files (particularly pictures) within my home folder?
[06:47] <nks_> F8 won't work when trying to accept the terms of agreement in vmware, would anyone happen to know what to do? I have ubuntu on a macbook 2.16ghz
[06:48] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> what's PCI again?
[06:48] <ampmaniac3> hi! i need help. when i started the bind9 it gives me error like this. rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[06:48] <moni4m> ani1: thank you. I will check this network-admin. Restarting network is not big trouble (most of the times it is working). But which part looks strange? Is it normal to have two IP addresses? Does my interface/ifconfig logs looks normal?
[06:48] <kindofabuzz> the slots on your motherboard
[06:48] <lekremyelsew> ani1: its a CD that i didnt burn myself thats not working, i tried the CD on another computer, and it works fine
[06:48] <maxime> !beryl
[06:48] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[06:48] <crackerjackz> armyman007 is your wireless inside your computer
[06:48] <ani1> m0lecule_m: it could i think my gf has a 9950 or 9550 something like that and xgl is horrible its soo laggy but just my experience
[06:48] <mark[oz]> ampmaniac3, sudo
[06:48] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> I have a wireless card inserted to the computer...
[06:48] <mark[oz]> ampmaniac3, you'll need to be root to bind a port
[06:49] <m0lecule_m> What is xgl anyways? I only have a vague understanding....
[06:49] <kindofabuzz> man vnc is so cool now that i got it working
[06:49] <ampmaniac3> im using root already
[06:49] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> there is a sort of a reciever coming out of there...
[06:49] <luckylin> ArmyMan007: Have you heard of ndiswrapper? you can use it to get wireless cards to work using normal windows drivers
[06:49] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 its inside of your computer right
[06:49] <ani1> moni4m: virtual box will create a 2nd interface even if its bridged/NAT etc.  the only thing i see funny is not setting a static ip other than that i wouldn't have any other suggestions if it still happens :\
[06:49] <crackerjackz> ok
[06:49] <crackerjackz> what kind of card is it
[06:49] <crackerjackz> who makes it
[06:49] <FloodBot1> crackerjackz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <kindofabuzz> yeah man!
[06:49] <kindofabuzz> lol
[06:49] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> my card dosn't seem to be reconized...
[06:49] <crackerjackz> i know
[06:49] <ani1> lekremyelsew: :\ weird i would assume if it works in other machines and not in this one its going to be hardware but ask the chan again to see if anybody else has input
[06:49] <crackerjackz> we can get it working (im pretty sure)
[06:49] <mark[oz]> how many people actually say "thanks" once you've helped them?
[06:50] <ArmyMan007> lucklin -> been there... done that...
[06:50] <nickrud> mark[oz] most
[06:50]  * mark[oz] gives #ubuntu the bird
[06:50] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 who makes your card
[06:50] <lekremyelsew> hai all, my CD drive wont read any discs. i dunno if it is a hardware or software problem, cud someone halp me out?
[06:50] <moni4m> ani1: thanks a lot. just needed someone to review (no many linux friends around me). thanks again.
[06:50] <mark[oz]> nickrud, last two people, just vanish
[06:50] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> is it possible to move to a PM chat?
[06:50] <luckylin> <---- is using a wireless card with ndiswrapper and windows drivers, works a charm but needed a wired connection to download ndiswrapper and windows driver
[06:50] <crackerjackz> well yes it is
[06:50] <crackerjackz> how ever
[06:50] <cabrioleur> Creationist, I don't know about tools, but you can use fdupes command.
[06:50] <ani1> heh np moni4m hopefully that works for ya ;)
[06:50] <crackerjackz> it would be in your best intrest to chat in here
[06:50] <nickrud> mark[oz] attitude sucks
[06:50] <crackerjackz> so others can see our responses and offer more input
[06:50] <mark[oz]> :) nickrud
[06:50] <crackerjackz> it will benifit you ass well
[06:51] <ampmaniac3> any idea with this pls.im using root account   rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[06:51] <Creationist> cabrioleur: Actually, I just found FSLint, which claims to do it pretty well... with a GUI :)
[06:51] <Creationist> cabrioleur: But thank you.
[06:51] <mark[oz]> not mine, the community is falling apart
[06:51] <mark[oz]> its turning into fedora
[06:51] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> are you able to move to a PM?
[06:51] <AaronShaf> How do I change my home directory from the command line?
[06:51] <mark[oz]> man moduser AaronShaf
[06:51] <lekremyelsew> ani1: wud i need to get the drive replace or is there somethin else i cud do?
[06:52] <vinboy> hi
[06:52] <lekremyelsew> hai
[06:52] <Cwek_Janda> jg
[06:52] <ani1> lekremyelsew: i wouldnt know of anything...possibly clean the lens swap a known working drive
[06:52] <nickrud> mark[oz] I've been here since just about the beginning, and it goes in waves. Trolls and leeches are nothing new. But, this is off-topic (by the way, got several very nice thank you's tonight :)
[06:52] <AaronShaf> that's not working mark[oz]
[06:52] <Cwek_Janda> jg
[06:52] <vinboy> is there any tool to tell me if a particular directory hasn't been accessed since year 1990 or 5 years 6 months etc?
[06:52] <lekremyelsew> ani1, thx
[06:52] <ani1> np :)
[06:52] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 send me a pm
[06:52] <vinboy> because i'm trying to clean up my /home but not sure what to delete
[06:52] <cabrioleur> AaronShaf, Change you home directory name? You have to edit /etc/passwd file.
[06:52] <moni4m> ani1: hm. In fact, in network-admin I can't see br0 interface (only "wired connection" and "modem connection")
[06:53] <Smegzor> Is there anywhere I can look at my network settings other than what you get with Administration/Network?   I have to manually start my network at every boot and I'd like it to start automatically.
[06:53] <ani1> vinboy: du -ah
[06:53] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> failed... but I signed in...
[06:53] <rama_su> Trolls and leeches... and I thought you couldn't install games on ubuntu
[06:53] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> or mabey I should login again?
[06:53] <crackerjackz> yeah it failed for me too when i tried to pm you
[06:53] <AaronShaf> cabrioleur, no, not the home directory name, but the default directory for root upon login
[06:53] <ani1> moni4m: its not a physical interface like your nic card is so you wont but its ok
[06:53] <vinboy> ani1: it doesnt tell me how old they are
[06:53] <lekremyelsew> vinboy, in the file browser change the view to list and sort by date
[06:53] <moni4m> ani1: sometimes I am using this br0 connection. I think I will leave it as is until I get more advanced
[06:53] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 hold on let me try again before you doth at
[06:53] <cabrioleur> AaronShaf, the same thing.
[06:53] <ani1> vinboy: true but it does tell you size didnt read your first question sorry :\
[06:54] <ArmyMan007> dam..
[06:54] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> got a messenger?
[06:54] <crackerjackz> hmmm
[06:54] <crackerjackz> yeah
[06:54] <crackerjackz> aim?
[06:55] <ArmyMan007> live messenger?
[06:55] <astro76> !register | crackerjackz ArmyMan007
[06:55] <ubotu> crackerjackz ArmyMan007: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[06:55] <crackerjackz> type this in
[06:55] <ArmyMan007> !register | astro76
[06:55] <ubotu> astro76: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[06:55] <ArmyMan007> lol... :P
[06:55] <after17> Dos anyone using Hspice under Ubuntu?
[06:56] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 type /msg nickserv register yourpasswordgoeshere
[06:56] <astro76> please don't abuse the bot ArmyMan007
[06:56] <luckylin> Does anyone in here know of any good linux role playing games?
[06:56] <kindofabuzz> we know your password! =)
[06:56] <Mzalendo> asalaam aleykum
[06:56] <ArmyMan007> astro76 -> sorry...
[06:56] <crackerjackz> armyman2007 after that type in /msg nickserv identify yourpasswordgoeshere
[06:56] <Mzalendo> hi all... i need some rescuing here folks
[06:56] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz o0o noez
[06:56] <crackerjackz> =P
[06:56] <cabrioleur> luckylin, rouge.
[06:56] <ArmyMan007> okey... let me log out and in...
[06:56] <crackerjackz> ok
[06:57] <ArmyMan007> going to other computer...
[06:57] <ArmyMan007> bb
[06:57] <crackerjackz> o
[06:57] <crackerjackz> ok
[06:57] <ArmyMan007> (win computer)
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> cool pusing X works too!
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> pushing
[06:57] <luckylin> thank you cabrioleur
[06:57] <hischild> Mzalendo, what's the problem?
[06:57] <crackerjackz> hey kindofabuzz
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> yo
[06:57] <Mzalendo> hischild: well, i installed Ubuntu on a previous NTFS setup... Windows got completely corrupted...
[06:57] <crackerjackz> do you know how i uninstall that icetea java plug in
[06:58] <crackerjackz> and install the sun java plug in
[06:58] <hischild> Mzalendo, you mean you installed ubuntu on a partition that windows was installed on?
[06:58] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: did you check synaptic?
[06:58] <Mzalendo> hischild: one of the partitions wasnt included...
[06:58] <crackerjackz> no
[06:58] <pen> I have a question about gnome-panel
[06:58] <david> time to test 8.04 beta
[06:58] <ani1> !ask | pen
[06:58] <ubotu> pen: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:58] <Mzalendo> hischild: it is there, but it refuses to mount
[06:59] <hischild> Mzalendo, ok you'll have to give me a bit more info here. How is windows corrupted and how did you install ubuntu?
[06:59] <pen> is it possible to change panel to something like this screenshot? http://phunkycow.deviantart.com/art/Azurite-Darkmod-69387475
[06:59] <cabrioleur> Mzalendo, pastebin the output from mount.
[06:59] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: cause i think it's there, search it, right click it, mark for complete removal
[06:59] <pen> I know it's from Arch linux, but they use the same gnome-panel right?
[06:59] <crackerjackz> ok
[06:59] <moni4m> Mzalendo: corrupted means - not mounted or you can't start/login your windows?
[06:59] <Mzalendo> hischild: well, i installed it on the corrupted windows partition, and left the data partition (on the first drive... my PC has two drives) untouched...
[06:59] <cabrioleur> pen, yes
[06:59] <kindofabuzz> actaully i know it's there if it aske you do download it at the site
[07:00] <pen> cabrioleur: do you know how he did that?
[07:00] <hischild> Mzalendo, ok so far i think i get it. And what is the problem now?
[07:00] <ani1> pen: http://gnome-look.org/ yeah  the top bar somewhat looks like the pic except for the rounded edges look for themes
[07:00] <Mzalendo> hischild: there is data on that partition that i need to recover, urgently... it is some very important client data... and i have no backup :-(
[07:01] <cabrioleur> pen, did what? It's a normal panel...
[07:01] <hischild> Mzalendo, wait on the partition that you installed it on? that's gonna be though luck i'm afraid ...
[07:01] <hischild> Mzalendo, if it's on the other drive we can manage to do that
[07:01] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz i searched keyword " ice " in synaptic and that plug in didnt come up
[07:01] <crackerjackz> tried "tea" too
[07:01] <crackerjackz> with out the qoutes of course
[07:01] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz
[07:01] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> hi
[07:01] <pen> cabrioleur: see the icon and the separator?
[07:01] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> :D
[07:01] <crackerjackz> armyman2007
[07:01] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> now what do I do again?
[07:01] <Kuto> has anyone here installed gutsy on dell latitude d600? gutsy is so slow on my laptop..
[07:01] <Mzalendo> hischild: it's not... u mean that untouched partition is gone? there is no partition manager software for Ubuntu?
[07:02] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> it's not 2007... it's 007 (as in james bond...)
[07:02] <crackerjackz> ooops
[07:02] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz ->:P
[07:02] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: try again, it's there
[07:02] <rama_su> Bond James Bond
[07:02] <rama_su> 007
[07:02] <hischild> Mzalendo, no, i meant: the partition you installed ubuntu on, that data is gone. The other partition, the untouched one: that's recovarable (and if you wish i'll help you through)
[07:02] <pen> ani1: ok
[07:02] <cabrioleur> pen, the icon will change with your icon theme. You might replace the standard icon with a new one, it will do it. The separator is up the theme.
[07:02] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz ->now how do I do it? please retype it..
[07:02] <ani1> pen http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Azurite+Darkmod?content=68774
[07:02] <kindofabuzz> icedtea-java7
[07:02] <Mzalendo> hischild: whew! ok... shoot!
[07:02] <ArmyMan007> k
[07:02] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz yes that one
[07:03] <ArmyMan007> one sec
[07:03] <kindofabuzz> it's there crackerjackz
[07:03] <ani1> pen: the name of it is Azurite Darkmod
[07:03] <pen> ani1: I see
[07:03] <pen> ani1: thx
[07:03] <Mzalendo> hischild: can we do this in private... i am getting confused following u...
[07:03] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz ok let me look again
[07:03] <hischild> Mzalendo, i understand, it's kind of busy. Is PM ok?
[07:03] <pen> ani1: but I don't know how did he do to the icon on the left of the panel?
[07:03] <Mzalendo> hischild: that's what i prefer... u can guide me more accurately in PM
[07:04] <pen> ani1: is it a png?
[07:04] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> ready to go...
[07:04] <ani1> pen: eh me neither look for icon packs ..if its not included with the theme its probably here http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=120x121
[07:04] <hischild> Mzalendo, are you registered? (you have to be registered to be able to PM)
[07:04] <cabrioleur> pen, it's a part of the icon theme he is using.
[07:04] <Mzalendo> hischild: yes, i am
[07:04] <ani1> pen: i honestly couldn't tell you for sure if its a png
[07:04] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz its still not showing up even when i just search java
[07:04] <kindofabuzz> it's in mine, check your list
[07:04] <crackerjackz> armyman007 did you get my msn yes or no dont read my addy back to the whole chat =P
[07:04] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> ready to rock & roll
[07:05] <pen> ani1: is there a version for ubuntu too? have you seen any of those before?
[07:05] <pen> cabrioleur: I see
[07:05] <ani1> pen: no i just looked at the file name and looked up the package at gnome-look :)
[07:05] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> I've got it...
[07:05] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: are you searching synaptic or add/remove?
[07:05] <pen> ani1: oh :)
[07:05] <ani1> pen: thx for bringing it up though its really cool I will probably install it
[07:05] <ArmyMan007> crackerjackz -> (a simple yes or no sounds lame... :P)
[07:06] <pen> ani1: :)
[07:06] <lekremyelsew> is anyone here good with hardware?
[07:06] <crackerjackz> kindofabuzz add/remove >_< how do i search synaptic im used to gentoo its what iv been learning on
[07:07] <ani1> crackerjackz:  /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> crackerjackz: in ubuntu system > administration
[07:07] <luckylin> System/Administration/Synaptic
[07:07] <ani1> kindofabuzz: crackerjackz thats synaptic
[07:07] <tritium> crackerjackz: apt-cache search <search term>
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> yeah that too
[07:07] <luckylin> synaptic is your friend ^.^
[07:08] <cabrioleur> lekremyelsew, what do you mean by that?
[07:08] <crackerjackz> tritim for example apt-cache search <icedtea> ?
[07:08] <kindofabuzz> yup