[12:01] <maki> transparency in xubuntu is connected with XGL?
[12:01] <sethk> illusia-ru, it shows the size of the entire drive before the partitions
[12:01] <Softimage> if anyone knows of a good irc client plz tell me, i tried xchat and dont like how it looks
[12:01] <JoseStefan> sethk, everytime he installs any server software he will have to manually edit the corresponding init scripts
[12:01] <axisys> illusia-ru: df -h
[12:01] <sethk> illusia-ru, the unallocated space is the size of the drive less the size of the defined partitions
[12:01] <sethk> JoseStefan, no he doesn't have to.  He can simply start the services.  Add the start statements to the end of a startup file
[12:02] <sethk> JoseStefan, gdm is different, because it is restarted any time it is stopped
[12:02] <HeXiOn> sethk: maybe I have to insmod something after booting with 2.6.17 to make sata work?
[12:02] <sethk> JoseStefan, for a normal, not auto restart service, you simply start it with apachectl start
[12:02] <ChaosFan> :q
[12:02] <BlueEagle> hexion: which sata chipset you got?
[12:02] <sethk> HeXiOn, you made it a module?  Don't do that, compile it into the kernel
[12:02] <illusia-ru> sethk axisys there is only 5 partitions and no partition like unnalocated and don`t show real size.really don`t show partition which i need
[12:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: uli 1689
[12:02] <phiber_optic> how can I change how a file opens, all my mp3 are opening with xine
[12:03] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes, that's what I do, but don't works :(
[12:03] <illusia-ru> sethk axisys its show from hda1-5 but i know what i need one of hda6-10
[12:03] <BlueEagle> hexion: self compiled or is .17 out in a ubuntu .deb now?
[12:03] <sethk> illusia-ru, as I told you, it does.  Paste your output and I'll tell you how to interpret it
[12:03] <brucedes> Does anyone know how I can use java on ppc? I want to use Mercury Messenger and azureus, but they need java, which sun doesn't have a ppc version of
[12:03] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: i'm going to try disabling gdm on my setup, brb
[12:03] <tizwonder> does anyone here know any good system monitors that will display on gnome gui in the background?
[12:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell bronze about java
[12:03] <HeXiOn> sethk: I compile with my chipset option enabled "ULI electronics SATA support", and when I boot with 2.6.17 theres no SATA partitions
[12:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: compiled myself
[12:04] <sethk> HeXiOn, don't build it as a module, configure it as build into the kernel
[12:04] <BlueEagle> where did brucedes go?
[12:04] <illusia-ru> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
[12:04] <illusia-ru> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:04] <illusia-ru>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda1   *           1        2677    21502971    7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: I couldn't make wireless and sata work when compiling myself 2.6.17
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda2            3951        3952       16065    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[12:04] <bronze> Wow! Java is neat!
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda3            3953        4864     7325640   a5  FreeBSD
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda4            2687        3885     9630967+  83  Linux
[12:04] <illusia-ru> /dev/hda5            3951        3952       16033+  14  Hidden FAT16 <32M
[12:04] <Flannel> illusia-ru: Don't paste here.
[12:04] <sethk> HeXiOn, there is no reason to make it a module and deal with having to worry about inserting the module.  there is no case when you don't want it to run, is there?
[12:04] <HeXiOn> sethk: yes, that's what I already did
[12:04] <bluefusionxl> looking on WikiPedia
[12:04] <bluefusionxl> I see that run level 1 is single user mode
[12:04] <sethk> HeXiOn, then why are you asking about modules?
[12:04] <BlueEagle> hexion: Well unless you use an initrd then you'll need to compile sata support into the kernel.
[12:04] <bronze> Oh, wait, I wrote a paper for SUN about Java back in 1997...........
[12:04] <brucedes> so anyone have an idea about java?
[12:04] <illusia-ru> Flannel sorry :(
[12:04] <bluefusionxl> Everyone on my server is going to have a user
[12:05] <HeXiOn> sethk: I follow this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17
[12:05] <sethk> bluefusionxl, no, for other distros, that's true.  for ubuntu, level S is single user
[12:05] <BlueEagle> hexion: as for wireless, are you using ndiswrapper?
[12:05] <finalbeta> phiber_optic, right click an mp3, select open with, pick the app you want to open it with, and you can probably select, always use this app
[12:05] <sethk> bluefusionxl, ubuntu and debian define level S for single user
[12:05] <frisb> Has anyone gotten fglrx to work with xgl/compiz and direct rend? I've got an x1300 on a t60
[12:05] <Softimage> gdesklets has some system mon, but they dont look as good as other i have seen
[12:05] <HeXiOn> sethk: because I don't know why it doen't work.. just asking if I had to do anything else
[12:05] <Flannel> frisb: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:05] <frisb> ah right forgot
[12:05] <printk> frisb: once xgl/compiz are running DRI will not work period
[12:05] <phiber_optic> finalbeta, i already tried that but it doesnt allow me ... ill try to mlodify the defaults.list to see if it works
[12:05] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: no, I use acx module right now (2.6.15-26)
[12:05] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: worked perfectly, and i can start gdm on request. I don't see how it could be easier than this
[12:05] <sethk> HeXiOn, you should not, not.  you should see the sata chipset detected in the dmesg output
[12:05] <frisb> is that true only for fglrx?
[12:05] <Raziekiel> If I have an AMD 64 X2, do I want to use linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic or -k8 ??
[12:06] <sethk> JoseStefan, it's simply wrong, I didn't say it is difficult
[12:06] <printk> frisb: no i think that's just how XGL operates... it takes away DRI for other apps *shrugs*
[12:06] <minerale> is it possible to setup GDM to start XGL and a standard x server at the same time?
[12:06] <sethk> JoseStefan, lots of incorrect things are easy to do
[12:06] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: why is it "wrong" ?
[12:06] <BlueEagle> hexion: Well compile that into the kernel as well. If you haven't got an option for it in make menuconfig you might need to patch your kernel.
[12:06] <printk> minerale: yes it is by creating different sessions
[12:06] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: it's just disabling a service how it is stated on the man pages
[12:06] <illusia-ru> sethk any ideas?
[12:06] <sethk> JoseStefan, because the run levels were created for particular intended user configurations.  changing them makes no sense, unless you have some reason.
[12:06] <frisb> oh ok so it just appears to not be accelerated. I think I remember reading that. But when I followed the compiz.net thread on installing it was slow as all hell
[12:07] <iceman2k> they need to streamline a linux distro, using "ONE" set of standard librarys.
[12:07] <sethk> JoseStefan, I said, several times, that you can disable any service at any level, which is what the man page tells you to do.
[12:07] <cherry_blossom> hi
[12:07] <sethk> JoseStefan, however, by your logic, I could choose absolutely any run level and then turn things on and off.  clearly the run levels were created for a reason.
[12:07] <cherry_blossom> im trying to run emacs on my dapper instillation.  and i get this error Undefined color: "black"
[12:07] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: ubuntu was only designed for one runlevel, and that is 2, going to something else can cause further issues when installing new pakcages
[12:07] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: I have followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=2.6.17   if you had a acx wireless, and a uli SATA, what would you do to make them work? (I don't know how to path kernel)
[12:07] <sethk> JoseStefan, if you don't want to follow that scheme, of course you don't have to, but it's wrong in the absense of some reason .
[12:08] <sethk> JoseStefan, if you are saying the configuration is wrong, and you have a reason, then fine.
[12:08] <sethk> JoseStefan, that's utterly false.  run level 1 was created for a reason.
[12:08] <sethk> JoseStefan, I think you are confused because in other distros, run level 1 is sequivalent to ubuntu's run level S
[12:08] <cherry_blossom> anybody?
[12:09] <illusia-ru> sethk any ideas?
[12:09] <BlueEagle> hexion: Well I haven't got any wireless cards so for that I don't know. As for sata I'd compile in scsi support and the sata driver in question. (in my case sata_sil)
[12:09] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: runlevel 1 is intended for recovery, not running it everyday
[12:09] <sethk> cherry_blossom, that's bizarre
[12:09] <sethk> JoseStefan, not correct.  run level S is intended for recover
[12:09] <BlueEagle> hexion: ..and sata_nv
[12:09] <printk> run level 1 is single user
[12:09] <sethk> JoseStefan, in fedora, run level 1 is single user, NOT in ubuntu
[12:09] <sethk> printk, no, run level S is single user
[12:09] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: on my setup runlevel 1 doesnt start any services at all
[12:09] <cherry_blossom> thats with emacs-snapshot-gtk
[12:09] <cherry_blossom> what im trying to run
[12:10] <sethk> JoseStefan, so?
[12:10] <printk> i thought S = 1.. just a diff name *shrugs*
[12:10] <cherry_blossom> i googled it and it looked like a problem that was there a long time ago
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: a good way to find out what you need is to: lsmod|grep sata and lsmod|grep scsi
[12:10] <cherry_blossom> but it is supposedly fixed
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: when running the stock kernel.
[12:10] <JoseStefan> sethk, bluefusionxl: ok, i give up. i'm out of ideas
[12:10] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: sorry, I can't understand.... you mean enabling an option in make xconfig?
[12:10] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me configure my sound??
[12:10] <psusi> runlevel S is single user... aka recovery mode
[12:10] <sethk> illusia-ru, I'm not clear on what you need to know.  tell me again, sorry, I forgot the beginning of the conversation
[12:10] <psusi> nothing starts up but sulogin
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: no, I'm talking about checking which modules are loaded.
[12:10] <phiber_optic> I have sound blaster 5.1 but only 2 work
[12:10] <BlueEagle> hexion: also, why do you need the new kernel?
[12:10] <phiber_optic> I have sound blaster 5.1 but only 2 speakers work
[12:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, it isn't an issue of identifying his sata hardware.  we did that 20 minutes ago
[12:11] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell phiber_optic about repeat
[12:11] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: because my system freezes 5 times a day when using my SATA :(
[12:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, and, it appears he needs an older kernel, actually
[12:11] <BlueEagle> sethk: all-righty then. I was reading my book then. :)
[12:11] <lens> My search engine never seems to work and I have some files I really need to find... I don't understand how the search engine doesn't pick up certain thing.  any ideas?
[12:11] <illusia-ru> sethk i have unnalocated space in my HDD(/dev/hda) and the is 500mb /dev/hda6-10 i want it make as swap,but i can`t find which one from hda6-10 i need?
[12:11] <sethk> BlueEagle, one of the kernel problems injected into dapper
[12:12] <Flannel> cherry_blossom: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2004-11/msg00077.html
[12:12] <minerale> printk: I've been trying but it does not seem to work, how do you specify a different x server for a session ?
[12:12] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: dmesg tells me I'm using sata_uli
[12:12] <sethk> illusia-ru, oh, you can create swap space as any of those.  just make a swap partition that is /dev/sda6
[12:12] <BlueEagle> sethk: I see. So rebuilding the .15 would be more prudent than making a new .17?
[12:12] <sethk> BlueEagle, I think so, especially as he's already tried .17  :)
[12:12] <sethk> BlueEagle, and this problem was introduced when he upgraded
[12:13] <BlueEagle> hexion: apperantly sethk has got a follow on your problem so to avoid redundancies I'll let him handle it. He's a competent man. :)
[12:13] <illusia-ru> sethk but i don`t know which one i must use :( how can i find it?
[12:13] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl: alternativly you could just remove xorg related packages
[12:13] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, thank you :)
[12:13] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl: or consider ubuntu-server
[12:13] <sethk> illusia-ru, to create a new partition you may use any unused partition designation.
[12:13] <sethk> illusia-ru, it makes absolutely no difference which one you choose
[12:13] <whitehorseNtiger> How do I install a c++ compiler that uses "make"
[12:13] <Adam_G> quick question: could I add debian repositories to my sources.list?
[12:13] <Flannel> cherry_blossom: or, more specifically: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=858323
[12:14] <TomB> whitehorseNtiger, apt-get install build-essential
[12:14] <Flannel> Adam_G: No
[12:14] <sethk> HeXiOn, to see if the new kernel is seeing the sata hardware, you look at the output of dmesg, which should show the sata hardware being detected
[12:14] <ubuntu> Flannel, hi
[12:14] <phiber_optic> how can i check which module is using my sound card??
[12:14] <whitehorseNtiger> TomB thanks
[12:14] <codyzapp> shut, ask ... lol
[12:14] <TomB> np
[12:14] <Adam_G> Flannel, hm. ok :/
[12:14] <mopflite> whitehorseNtiger: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:14] <Toran> how can I get the "extract here..." service menu in konqueror for .RAR files? I have it for .zip and .tar.gz and .tar.bz2, but not rars
[12:14] <psusi> whitehorseNtiger, you don't.... make processes a makefile and invokes compilers and linkers and other tools to build a project...
[12:14] <HeXiOn> sethk: ok, and if don't what can I do?
[12:14] <sethk> HeXiOn, I think your best bet is to back up to the kernel version that is known to work.
[12:14] <psusi> the compiler does not use make... make typically runs the compiler
[12:14] <ubuntu> Toran,  rarlabs.com
[12:14] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how to get thunderbird to make an alert noise when email has arrived?
[12:14] <kaymann> Is there a way to install newer versions of gaim on Dapper?
[12:14] <Flannel> Adam_G: debian/ubuntu aren't guaranteed compatable, however if you add debian source repositories, you could use them
[12:15] <whitehorseNtiger> I downloaded "acquire" and it needs to be built.
[12:15] <illusia-ru> sethk but another from hda6-10 are busy and not unnalocated.If i broke them it would be problem :(
[12:15] <BlueEagle> toran: I think you'll have more luck with that question in #kubuntu as konquorer is a kde app.
[12:15] <whitehorseNtiger> It has a makefile
[12:15] <sethk> HeXiOn, then we have to figure out why, and it may indeed be kernel configuration.  For example, you need scsi disk, and I don't think we checked whether or not it is enabled.
[12:15] <HeXiOn> sethk: I was thinking on it too... you reffer on installing the first kernel-image in dapper, don't you? (2.6.15-23 I think)
[12:15] <ubuntu> kaymann,  u mean 2?
[12:15] <sethk> illusia-ru, according to what you pasted, none of /dev/hda6 and above is used
[12:15] <mbd> hi. id really like some help getting ati fglrx drivers working
[12:15] <cherry_blossom> all those files already exists
[12:15] <sethk> illusia-ru, you can't have it both ways.  Either they appear in the output, or they don't.
[12:16] <sethk> HeXiOn, whichever one was working for you.
[12:16] <overridden> I've just comiled/installed gtk+-2.10.2 and now gnome lobs says it doesnt find gtk-config ?
[12:16] <kaymann> yes ubuntu.
[12:16] <overridden> anyone know how to get gtk-config script ?
[12:16] <overridden> gnome-libs
[12:16] <sethk> overridden, there is a package for it
[12:16] <cherry_blossom> brb im gonna try resetting X
[12:16] <HeXiOn> sethk: to be honest, I don't know. I don't know even if this all is caused by kernel or by something I installed :(
[12:16] <sethk> overridden, from source, I'd have to hunt it up.
[12:16] <overridden> locate doesnt find it
[12:17] <sethk> HeXiOn, nothing other than the kernel can cause the system to just freeze solid like that.
[12:17] <Glench> anyone know a utility to view other computers on your wireless network?
[12:17] <HeXiOn> sethk: the only think I know is that I have this problem so many time, and it's the same with linux-386 and linux-k7
[12:17] <Megaqwerty>  Does anyone know how to get thunderbird to make an alert noise when email has arrived?
[12:17] <BlueEagle> mbd: Did you read !ati?
[12:17] <BlueEagle> !ati
[12:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:17] <overridden> nothing finds it, it should be in /usr/local/bin/gtk-config
[12:17] <illusia-ru> sethk you mean is what from hda6-10 are made like for future?and they will use unnalocated spaec?
[12:17] <bluefusionxl> someone in the forums said to /etc/init.d/gdm to something else
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> rename
[12:18] <sethk> overridden, then you are compiling from source.  It's part of libgtk.  You did make install?
[12:18] <mbd> yes, neither the first or Seveas Repository method worked
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> so i did, and its a text-base startup
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> will i run iunto any problems?
[12:18] <bluefusionxl> into
[12:18] <overridden> I dide make checkinstall :)
[12:18] <sethk> illusia-ru, when you create an extended partition, then you make hda6-10 available for use as logical partition names.
[12:18] <Intelligitimate> I am having a problem getting open office to do the header correctly. I want to make it insert my last name plus the page number, but I can't get it to.
[12:18] <duderock> i could really use some opinions on this problem - this log shows from startup to lockup - i'm having trouble interepreting the cause of the failure... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22365
[12:18] <mbd> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or manually editing xorg.conf, no difference
[12:18] <duderock> It's an AMD X2 socket AM2 on a Gigabyte N55SLI
[12:18] <duderock> w/800mhz DDR2 G.Skill Ram
[12:19] <whitehorseNtiger> why does "build-essential" need my dapper cd
[12:19] <sethk> whitehorseNtiger, you can remove the CD from your sources.list and it will not.
[12:19] <Glench> it needs it because it's essential ^_^
[12:19] <duderock> whitehorseNtiger: have you edited /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:19] <Flannel> whitehorseNtiger: it needs a repository, you have your dapper CD still listed as a repository, apparently.  You should probably remove that
[12:19] <HeXiOn> sethk: then I'll try this, I will try again to compile 2.6.17 and see dmesg output. If it fails I don't know how to do to enable SATA and I will not have wireless so I won't be able to come here to ask you.... then I will install a previous image on dapper repo and see if it works.  Do you think my plan is correct? something to add? :)
[12:19] <sethk> HeXiOn, backing up to something that is know to work is I think your best option, yes.
[12:20] <Megaqwerty>  Does anyone know how to get thunderbird to make an alert sound when there is a new email?
[12:20] <overridden> Done. The new package has been installed and saved to ....
[12:20] <overridden> so why oh why sethk
[12:20] <HeXiOn> sethk: ok, well, I'll try to make things work. THANK YOU again for your support :)
[12:20] <overridden> hehe
[12:21] <sethk> overridden, I'm not sure whether you are saying it works, or it doesn't.  :)
[12:21] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl, that could break updates
[12:21] <HeXiOn> bye
[12:21] <marshall_> hey guys
[12:22] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: In OOo writer choose Insert -> Top text -> Standard  and then  Insert -> Fields -> Page number
[12:22] <marshall_> how do you make your root apps have the same theme as the rest of your gtk apps?
[12:22] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: and just do that where you want the page number to be.
[12:22] <Raziekiel> Axisys: I followed the instructions on the page the bot gave me for installing nvidia drivers. When I got to the final step, type "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" I get "Error: your X configuration has been altered."
[12:22] <JoseStefan> bluefusionxl: you should not rename anything un /etc/init.d/
[12:22] <mbd> BlueEagle, neither officcial repositories method or Seveas method work. xorg.conf looks all right, ati control works, but fglrxinfo says it still uses mesa
[12:22] <overridden> installing gtk+-2.10.2 worked, but gnome-libs-1.4.2 cant find the gtk-config script sethk
[12:22] <JoseStefan> on*
[12:22] <overridden> and I need it to compile gide-0.3.5
[12:23] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: if you want to left-align the one and right-align the other then you might need a table in the top text. (it might be called header, I'm using a different language and attempt to translate back) :)
[12:23] <Intelligitimate> Thanks.
[12:23] <sethk> overridden, you installed from source, which installs to /usr/local.  then you are trying to use stuff from packages, which assumes that the install path was /usr, not /usr/local
[12:23] <Intelligitimate> I got it now, BlueEagle.
[12:23] <Intelligitimate> Thanks for your help.
[12:23] <BlueEagle> mbd: Well I don't use ati so I wouldn't know. :/
[12:23] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: No problem. :)
[12:23] <sethk> overridden, if you are going to mix stuff compiled from source and stuff installed from packages, you have to override the install directory when compiling from source.
[12:23] <overridden> no no, its all from source
[12:23] <phiber_optic> why cant I get 5.1 sound ?
[12:23] <marshall_> how do you make your root apps have the same theme as the rest of your gtk apps?
[12:23] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: It's also described in the help files of OOo iirc.
[12:23] <CNote> I'm not seeing an SMP kernel listed in my available packages to download...am I missing something?
[12:23] <mbd> damnit. worked this morning, too, before hd crash :\
[12:24] <sethk> then what is gnome-libs-1.4.2?
[12:24] <kaymann> Can you install composit/aiglx in Dapper without compiz?
[12:24] <sethk> overridden, make sure /usr/local/bin is in your execution search path
[12:24] <psusi> CNote, iirc, there is only one kernel image, and it is SMP capable
[12:24] <BlueEagle> intelligitimate: the keywords for it in OOo helps is: page numbers;footers (for future reference) :)
[12:24] <overridden> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[12:24] <marshall_> how do you make your root apps have the same theme as the rest of your gtk apps?
[12:25] <BlueEagle> marshall_: "root apps" as in apps you're running as root?
[12:25] <CNote> psusi: when I get the available 686 kernel, it doesn't appear that it is using SMP, I have a ipw9345 wireless card and the docs I see state it needs the SMP kernel
[12:25] <whitehorseNtiger> thanks guys
[12:25] <marshall_> BlueEagle: yeah
[12:25] <Jamminpotato> is tehre a shuffle feature in quod libet?
[12:25] <Raziekiel> Can anyone help me install nvidia drivers? I get an "Error: your X configuration has been altered."  I'd rather make them a theme that flashes red and that sounds 'WARNING' out of the soundcard every now and then so that you don't inadvertently do something foolish. :)
[12:26] <CNote> I'
[12:26] <marshall_> BlueEagle: lol
[12:26] <marshall_> BlueEagle: ok how do i manage that though
[12:27] <BlueEagle> marshall_: I really don't know. I just felt like being funny. :p
[12:27] <marshall_> BlueEagle: lol
[12:27] <BlueEagle> marshall_: I haven't used rezlooks and not quite sure what that is.
[12:27] <CNote> psusi: does the system detect it can utilize SMP and load it from the kernel properly?
[12:27] <marshall_> BlueEagle: its a neat little gtk engine
[12:28] <BlueEagle> cnote: if it loads the SMP kernel then it uses SMP when applicable.
[12:28] <BlueEagle> cnote: in the console type: uname -a
[12:28] <psusi> CNote, the kernel detects multiple processors and uses them if they are there
[12:28] <CNote> right...
[12:28] <BlueEagle> cnote: if it lists SMP then you're good to go. :)
[12:28] <overridden> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22376
[12:28] <whitehorseNtiger> if i install build-essential on a 64bit system, does it always compile for full 64bit processing?
[12:28] <sethk> overridden, looking
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: How did you try to install the drivers
[12:28] <CNote> I'm coming from a Gentoo world where I compiled my own kernel, and fedora has their "SMP" specific kernels,
[12:29] <BlueEagle> cnote: Ubuntu has got SMP kernels availible in the repositories.
[12:29] <psusi> whitehorseNtiger, define "fulll 64 bit processing"... it builds 64 bit binaries if that is what you mean
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, I only see the last few lines, but the message is telling you how to fix it.
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, also
[12:29] <CNote> BlueEagle: which repositories are those?
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, the message doesn't say that it didn't find gtk-config
[12:29] <overridden> I know, but I dont have gtk-config
[12:29] <BlueEagle> cnote: You can also d/l the source and build-essential and compile your own kernel if you're more comfortable doing it that way.
[12:29] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow: I've tried the ubuntuguide, and https://help.ubuntu.com. Neither gets passed sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:29] <whitehorseNtiger>  psusi:  will it use all 64bits available?
[12:29] <sethk> overridden, it says it didn't find gtk-config >= 1.2.0
[12:29] <BlueEagle> !info linux-smp
[12:29] <ubotu> Package linux-smp does not exist in any distro I know
[12:29] <BlueEagle> hmm
[12:30] <psusi> CNote, ubuntu unified them because there is a new kernel feature where if the kernel doesn't detect multiple cpus, it patches itself so there is no performance loss over building it for only one cpu
[12:30] <Megaqwerty> !AV
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AV - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[12:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:30] <Megaqwerty> !Viruses
[12:30] <sethk> overridden, you did make install on the tarball with libgtk?
[12:30] <psusi> whitehorseNtiger, it will try...
[12:30] <CNote> psusi: o
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Viruses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <CNote> ok
[12:30] <whitehorseNtiger>  psusi ok, thanks
[12:30] <BlueEagle> !info linux-686-smp
[12:30] <overridden> sethk: ii  gtk+                                  2.10.2-1                          Package created with checkinstall 1.6.0
[12:30] <ubotu> linux-686-smp: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Is that the one you tried?
[12:30] <ryanakca> Megaqwerty: there aren't viruses on linux
[12:30] <sethk> overridden, did you do make install with the gtk package?
[12:30] <boricua> having issues with my mic both with ekiga and skype
[12:30] <BlueEagle> cnote: in the restricted components
[12:31] <JoseStefan> !av > Megaqwerty
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <Megaqwerty> ryanakca: I know, but I'm pretty sure ubotu has a link explaining why, I'm trying to explain it to someone.
[12:31] <CNote> BlueEagle: those repositories are not enabled by default?
[12:31] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yes, thats the one I just tried
[12:31] <JoseStefan> !virus > Megaqwerty
[12:31] <Frederick> folks doesn't ubuntu features openssl-dev?
[12:31] <Megaqwerty> thanks JoseStefan!
[12:31] <duderock> anyone know how to scroll back in irssi?
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel:and you are running dapper?
[12:32] <BlueEagle> cnote: Not sure. Even if they are I recomend you head over to the source-o-matic
[12:32] <Anthrax> helo people
[12:32] <sethk> Megaqwerty, there are a couple of known linux viruses, although it's debatable whether they are just theoretical or they are actually floating around out there.
[12:32] <cherry_blossom> so no luck with that
[12:32] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell cnote about easysource
[12:32] <cherry_blossom> even with those simlinks
[12:32] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yep, just got my CDs yesterday, installed it this morning
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Can you use pastebin to show the error you are getting.
[12:33] <cherry_blossom> emacs-snapshot-nox will run
[12:33] <cherry_blossom> but emacs-snapshot-gtk throws "Undefined color: "black" "
[12:34] <Softimage> why does firefox crash so much
[12:34] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22377
[12:34] <overridden> sethk: I dont understand what you are asking ?
[12:35] <jdahm> is wireshark still called ethereal in synaptic?
[12:35] <sethk> overridden, gtk-config is copied to /usr/local/bin when you run    make install       for libgtk.  if you haven't run make install, then of course the file isn't in /usr/local/bin
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Did you manually edit xorg?
[12:36] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  No, was somewhat afraid to try lol
[12:36] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I tried the " md5sum/etc/X11/xorg.conf|sudotee/var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum" line earlier, and then my gui wouldn't load. I had to reinstall
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  from a terminal
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Save a backup copy
[12:38] <cherry_blossom> so no one uses emacs with ubuntu?
[12:38] <atoponce> anyone know of a gui network traffic analyzer? i need to see average load on certain ports in real time
[12:38] <atoponce> among other stats
[12:38] <boricua> when i run alsamixer mic shows off how do i turn it on
[12:38] <cosmos`cu> The music player that comes with ubuntu doesnt recognize mp3's  Can anyone suggest an alternative?
[12:38] <narg> !mp3
[12:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <BHSPitMonkey> cosmos`cu, you need to.... follow those directions ^
[12:38] <cherry_blossom> use ogg ^_^
[12:38] <carl> Hey guys, just a quick question. is there a WMV codec package anywhere in the resp?
[12:39] <Abst> carl: See what ubotu just said
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: If you want to paste your xorg fine but you should not need to just to edit nv to nvidia
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> cherry_blossom, the solution isn't to change the user's tastes or needs :P
[12:39] <cherry_blossom> it was a joke
[12:39] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Huh?
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> I know ^^
[12:39] <cherry_blossom> but could someone figure out how to make emacs-gtk work on dapper?
[12:40] <atoponce> iptraf and iftop are kinda heading the right direction, but i need average loads
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: I gave you what you need to do in terminal...
[12:40] <lmosher> I'm working with an NTFS partition. I've unmounted it, changed some files around, and mounted it again. However, the file I deleted still shows up! How do i force a refresh?
[12:40] <narg> How would one modify a programs nice permanently? Obviously there is a way, since X does it ;)
[12:41] <psusi> lmosher, the ubuntu NTFS driver is read only... are you playing with something experimental?
[12:41] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I typed gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then what do I do?
[12:41] <overridden> ok, thx sethk; now trying to compile libgtk from source I got from the repo's
[12:41] <atoponce> darkstat also was getting close, but not quite
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Save a copy with a changed name
[12:41] <carl> Abst: well, it doesn't really help me. I'm after Mplayer plugins since gstreamer wont work for me...
[12:41] <mbd> i need some help getting ati fglrx driver to work.
[12:41] <nytemask> sup all, just installed unbuntu...and I have NO QUESTIONS
[12:41] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yea, I did, i backed it up
[12:42] <jdahm> is there a program available to view clients on a LAN/subnet?
[12:42] <lmosher> psusi, No. I -unmounted- it and deleted the file with Windows. However when i mount again the file is still there! It's not actually reading the stupid drive b/c I've definately deleted that file..
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Get back to the original xorg .. so you are not editing the backup by mistake
[12:42] <nytemask> someone recommend a good news reader with nzb support?
[12:42] <psusi> lmosher, you rebooted into windows, deleted it, rebooted back into ubuntu, and it is still there?
[12:42] <absolut> Anyone know how to change root password in ubuntu on a fresh install ? (or what's the default)
[12:42] <sethk> overridden, ok
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[12:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !root > absolut
[12:42] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm on the original one, not the backup
[12:43] <absolut> !root
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: k... find "nv"
[12:43] <lmosher> psusi, No, I'm using VMware to access the drive natively. I'm sure rebooting would do the trick, but I'm hoping there's a way to refresh the drive...
[12:43] <absolut> ty
[12:43] <RedGlasses> I am a newbie to ubuntu and linux. can you recommend a book to have as a good reference?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> RedGhost,  theres a book out now thats just for ubuntu. :P
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !book
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about book - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> HAd to try
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> then about anything by the Oriealy guys is good.
[12:44] <psusi> lmosher, are you sure you have vmware configured to allow writes to the partition?  it's probably just faking it with copy on write
[12:44] <CNote> I am having issues getting my ipw3945 wireless card to be recgognized, can anyone offer any assistance
[12:44] <johnnyg> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[12:44] <johnnyg> sudo: unable to lookup johnny-laptop via gethostbyname()
[12:44] <mbd> i need some help getting ati fglrx driver to work.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> 'using bash' by Orieialy is great also.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> RedGhost,  and check  TLDP.org
[12:44] <johnnyg> any sudo command I try to run gives me "gethostbyname()"
[12:44] <carl> Hmm... where is mplayers codec directory then?
[12:44] <magneticubuntu> hello world
[12:44] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  The only NV it finds is "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[12:44] <overridden> sethk: the source tarball in libgtk+2.10.2 IS the same one as I installed from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources
[12:44] <crimsun> carl: /usr/lib/win32
[12:44] <overridden> sethk: So I did compile it
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: can you post your xorg to pastebin for me..
[12:44] <carl> crimsun: cheers
[12:45] <atoponce> no one knows of a gui network traffic monitor?
[12:45] <magneticubuntu> Guys: how can I check to see what devices are mounted? (I'm trying to determine if my pvr350 is mounted as /dev/video0 or /dev/video1
[12:45] <magneticubuntu> ?
[12:45] <carl> crimsun: but nope... no such directory
[12:45] <crimsun> carl: create it, then.
[12:45] <gunnar> !glx
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <gunnar> !xgl
[12:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:45] <crimsun> carl: or just install a w32codecs deb
[12:45] <lmosher> psusi, vmware does allow writes, but it maybe be caching or something, b/c in linux I can still actually play the file (it's a movie) so it's not there. I'll reboot vmware.
[12:46] <overridden> !gtk-config
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk-config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <magneticubuntu> Anyone can help me see what devices are mounted in ubuntu please?
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: I am thinking lower case nv
[12:46] <psusi> lmosher, you did shutdown the windows vmware session before mounting the partition again right?
[12:46] <magneticubuntu> ubotu: can you help?
[12:46] <overridden> magneticubuntu: mount
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can you help? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  here I'll pastebin it, just a sec
[12:46] <lmosher> psusi, No I didn't. Probably not a great idea, but since linux is ro I didn't think it would matter.
[12:46] <magneticubuntu> mount doesnt show if video devices are mounted....
[12:46] <psusi> yea... that's kind of important... windows didn't bother writing to the disk yet
[12:47] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I searched for nv in lowercase, and I didn't check match case
[12:47] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22379
[12:47] <magneticubuntu> overridden, mount didnt show it
[12:47] <magneticubuntu> i'm no looking for drives i'm looking for my video device
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: checking now
[12:47] <lmosher> psusi, hrm ok vmware is down, but the file -still- shows up when I mount it. I guess I can copy all the files I want to a different folder.
[12:48] <crimsun> overridden: what are you attempting to compile
[12:48] <overridden> eventually I wanne try gIDE
[12:48] <psusi> lmosher, start vmware back up and see if it's there in windows... after unmounting it of course
[12:48] <johnnyg> johnny@johnny-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[12:48] <johnnyg> sudo: unable to lookup johnny-laptop via gethostbyname()
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: something didnt go right in your install... the line that should have read nv says vesa...
[12:48] <psusi> lmosher, if it is, then vmware is configured to not actually allow writes to the device
[12:48] <magneticubuntu> nico_, is that you nico ppc?
[12:48] <lmosher> psusi, ok I'll check
[12:49] <magneticubuntu> guys>: how can i see where my video devices are mounted?
[12:49] <nico_> yes
[12:49] <psusi> vmware can intercept writes and save them seperately so the actual disk doesn't get messed up, but the vm thinks it is writing to the disk
[12:49] <magneticubuntu> nico_, :D
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: you can try to change 093 to "nvidia" but I think something else went wrong
[12:49] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: where your video devices are mounted or which device node that corespond to your video devices?
[12:49] <greg> hi i need help setting up my tunercard
[12:49] <lmosher> psusi, I can't say for certain that's not happening, but the disk file on my linux partition is quite small
[12:49] <magneticubuntu> nico_, hi :)
[12:50] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Could it be that I use the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[12:50] <magneticubuntu> BlueEagle, if my device is mounted as /dev/video0 or /dev/video1
[12:50] <psusi> lmosher, if all you did was delete a file it would be.... windows wouldn't write much to do that
[12:50] <greg> its detected but i cant get it to work
[12:50] <brian98> cnote: What manafacturer is the card?
[12:50] <PhibreOptix> Hayloo
[12:50] <psusi> lmosher, you should not have a seperate disk file if you want the vm to actually write to the disk
[12:50] <crimsun> overridden: that looks to use gtk1.2, which means you'd need libgnome-dev and
[12:50] <greg> hapuage
[12:50] <crimsun> overridden: s/and//
[12:50] <greg> however u spell it
[12:50] <psusi> lmosher, that seperate disk file is where vmware reroutes writes to instead of the real disk
[12:50] <phiber_optic> how do I change the icons??
[12:50] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: Those are device nodes and not mount points. As for which that goes where I am not certaind. udev is still a big mystery to me. Why do you need to know?
[12:51] <overridden> hmm, I'll try crimsun
[12:51] <CNote> brian98: Intel -- it's on a lenovo T60P laptop
[12:51] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: and are we talking about tv-cards or web cams here or graphic cards?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: I havent messed with 64  but I have seen some odd problems from people with it...
[12:51] <lmosher> psusi, I don't see how that's possible. I've installed Office 2003 using vmware and the disk file is only 112kb
[12:51] <PhibreOptix> Is Ubuntu free?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Your choice as to whether or not to make the change on that
[12:51] <magneticubuntu> BlueEagle, i'm trying to figure out if my pvr350 is /dev/video0 or /video1
[12:51] <lmosher> psusi, Plus, that file isn't there on reboot...
[12:51] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Hmm I may try installing the regular 32bit version then...
[12:51] <psusi> hrm.....
[12:52] <crimsun> PhibreOptix: Free to download, modify, and redistribute, yes.
[12:52] <CNote> brian98: the info I have found, it appeared that the cards should now possibly work with the kernels, and do not need additional compiling of the base drivers themselves
[12:52] <overridden> crimsun: btw, Ive allready installed and compiled gnome-build, Isnt that the same
[12:52] <overridden> ?
[12:52] <greg> PhibreOptix:duh
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: things like flash etc work in 32
[12:52] <mbd> how can i find what device instance my ati graphic card uses? i found "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" in /var/log/Xorg.9.log
[12:52] <JoseStefan> !tell PhibreOptix about free
[12:52] <crimsun> overridden: no idea
[12:52] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: ls -l /dev/video*
[12:52] <lmosher> psusi, That is, the file doesn't show up in windows. it's still there in LInux :/
[12:52] <Squee> I'm trying to set up a linux router, but this pc is a pentium mmx - 16 mb ram and seems to be too slow for everything.  Anyone have any good ideas on a distribution?
[12:52] <greg> how do i setup my tunercard?
[12:53] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: is any of the entries sym links that point to another file?
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Make the change if you dont mind so we can learn something...
[12:53] <vapermonkey00> is there a network monitor that i can c what people r dooning on my network?
[12:53] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yea, I'm going to reinstall
[12:53] <magneticubuntu> BlueEagle, thx
[12:53] <BlueEagle> magneticubuntu: and I am guessing that trial and error might be the easiest way to go. :)
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: try that edit first
[12:53] <lmosher> psusi, oops I take it back. after rebooting the vm the file is now gone for linux. Not sure why that was the procses I had to use, but I'll remember it I guess...
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: change vesa under nvidia card....
[12:53] <brian98> cnote: come back to me if your stuck with acx and having a problem. I've just spent the day on a friends machine getting his wireless connection working and it was 'supported' native
[12:53] <brian98> ;)
[12:53] <vapermonkey00> did u guys get my ?
[12:54] <CNote> brian98: i am kind of stuck right now...
[12:54] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell vapermonkey00 about u
[12:54] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Vesa to Nvidia? correct?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[12:54] <brian98> cnote: Go on, what up?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: CROSS YOUR FINGERS AND RESTART
[12:54] <BlueEagle> vapermonkey00: ubotu has sendt you a message that might explain the lack of respons.
[12:54] <greg> how do i setup my tunercard?
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Sorry for the caps
[12:54] <Raziekiel> lol here I go
[12:55] <Tonren> How do I format a Compact Flash card so that it is empty and read/writable?
[12:55] <greg> scantv cant find any channels
[12:55] <CNote> brian98: I've tried at one point compiling the ipw3945 drivers with the right ieee80211 drivers as well, but it always indicates it cannot find the device
[12:55] <vapermonkey00> okay i can do that
[12:55] <BlueEagle> vapermonkey00: as for monitoring networks snort might be useful.
[12:55] <CNote> brian98: there is nothing in dmesg that indicates it sees it, and I am not able to get the ipw3945 module to load,
[12:55] <vapermonkey00> what is a snort
[12:56] <greg> anyone?
[12:56] <overridden> cool crimsun, sethk it seems 2.10.2 is to new, 1.2 did the trick
[12:56] <nico_> mailbox ? what?
[12:56] <BlueEagle> vapermonkey00: however that might be best implemented on a hubbed network, not a switched one. :)
[12:56] <vapermonkey00> and wireless
[12:56] <sris> This is making me crazy :D Im not able to "dual boot" into windows from the grub menu. i've tried changing the access mode of the affected drives in bios, playing around with the map directive (which im not quiet sure of how it works). But eiter way it doesnt work. Anyone here good with stuff like this?
[12:56] <linuchsan> greg:what does dmesg say about your tv card?
[12:56] <mbd> how can i find what device instance my ati graphic card uses? i found "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" in /var/log/Xorg.9.log
[12:56] <BlueEagle> !info snort
[12:56] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB
[12:57] <brian98> cnote: ok
[12:57] <greg> it says tuner type not set
[12:57] <brian98> cnote: do you want to go down the ndiswrapper route?
[12:57] <whitehorseNtiger> How reliable has gparted got at resizing NTFS?
[12:57] <vapermonkey00> i dont have it incrypted and that is ok i just want to see who uses it and maby grant them access to it
[12:57] <CNote> brian98: is that really necesarry considering the drivers are sitting there...
[12:57] <BlueEagle> whitehorsentiger: I'd back it up before starting. I've heard several people having issues after gparted and qtparted resized their ntfs partitions.
[12:57] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  It worked! Got the nvidia splash screen
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool
[12:58] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: hello again :) I think I have the cause I can't compile with wireless enabled... If I see /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15drivers/net/wireless I have a directory called ACX, but that is not in linux-source-2.6.17
[12:58] <BlueEagle> whitehorsentiger: so, according to this figure i just made up it will work flawlessly in about 80% of the cases.
[12:58] <linuchsan> greg:what is the tv-card vendor
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Feel better now?
[12:58] <CNote> brian98: I manually loaded the module with modprobe, but when I try to start the ipw3945 daemon I get an error that the connection cannot be found
[12:58] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yes =D
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Anything else you need?
[12:59] <greg> vendor?
[12:59] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: is linux-source-2.6.17 incomplete? do I have to download any sources more to get acx?
[12:59] <Raziekiel> hehe well now I'm going to work on changing my resolution. I want to set it to 1280*1024
[12:59] <CNote> brian98: i am open to suggestions and assistance at this point
[12:59] <BlueEagle> hexion: Then you might need to patch your kernel source tree to get the driver. Check the manufacturer for a driver for the network card. As for upgrading to packages not in the repositories they are mainly unsupported.
[01:00] <brian98> cnote: I dunno - I just know that it works - I've been playing with native drivers all day - and acx and ndiswrapper worked in 5 minutes
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: system - preferences-screen res
[01:00] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: how do I do that?
[01:00] <BlueEagle> hexion: how you check the manufactureres website for a driver?
[01:00] <CNote> brian98: may I ask for assitance with that?
[01:00] <sris> please, i would be so greatful if anyone could point me in the right direction on this one.
[01:00] <BlueEagle> hexion: I guess you open a web browser and go there. :)
[01:00] <linuchsan> greg:what kind of tv card
[01:00] <brian98> cnote: course
[01:00] <BlueEagle> hexion: also; are you sure you need to upgrade your kernel?
[01:00] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: you reffer on going to www.ali.com in example?
[01:00] <brian98> cnote: do you have windows 2000/xp drivers?
[01:00] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  It only has up to 1024*768
[01:01] <CNote> I can get them...
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> let me look at your xorg again.
[01:01] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: I think I need to learn someday :)
[01:01] <greg>  Hauppauge WinTV
[01:01] <brian98> cnote: just want to check something first
[01:01] <BlueEagle> hexion: If they made your network card that might be a good idea. If you don't find anything there then sourceforge might be a good place to look. If all else fails google is your friend.
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Ok, since it was vesa you ended up at that res... back to terminal for you my friend
[01:01] <BlueEagle> hexion: still, are you sure that you absolutely need to upgrade your kernel?
[01:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, I'll search the net :)
[01:02] <BlueEagle> hexion: oh yes, your sata was borkalized.
[01:02] <linuchsan> greg:the bttv driver?
[01:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: yes, that is :)
[01:02] <whitehorseNtiger> I have access to an XP box at work that is oddly formatted with FAT32.  If I install Ubuntu, how do I change grub so that windows boots by default.
[01:02] <brian98> cnote: can you see the card and it doesn't work?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Here is what my nvidia 6600 can use  Modes		"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480
[01:02] <greg>  bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878)
[01:02] <CNote> brian98: as of right now it's like the card isn't there at all
[01:02] <Telarian02> Hello all, I tried this fix, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1114757&postcount=31, for a linksys pcmcia wireless card and then I rebooted the laptop now on kernel 2.6.15-26 i log on it has a black screen for 15 seconds and I'm back at the login screen and can never log in....any ideas?
[01:02] <BlueEagle> hexion: Have you concidered downgrading the kernel instead of attempting to upgrade to .17? (ie. was this an issue before .15?)
[01:02] <boricua> !skype
[01:02] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:02] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: and how about just copying acx directory from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17? can it work?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: add the res you want under each color depth
[01:03] <sris> !grub
[01:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:03] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: yes, I am going to try that too
[01:03] <brian98> cnote: can you type sudo lsmod | grep acx
[01:03] <Raziekiel> Alright, all I plan to run is 1280*1024, so I'll add it in
[01:03] <brian98> and tell me the result
[01:03] <whitehorseNtiger> thanks
[01:03] <BlueEagle> hexion: I would hardly think that it would work just copying the directory verbatim.
[01:03] <CNote> brian98: looks like that module is not loaded
[01:03] <brian98> ok
[01:04] <BlueEagle> hexion: still, desperate times calls for desperate means. (even though you've probably got a different makefile on .15 and .17 so I'd check them for differences.
[01:04] <brian98> cnote: have you got the 2000/xp driver yet?
[01:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, then I copy the dir, delete .o files, and compile to try
[01:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: thanks a lot :)
[01:04] <BlueEagle> hexion: also check the makefile(s)
[01:04] <brian98> and can you remove the native driver/mod
[01:04] <phiber_optic> how can I change the icons?
[01:04] <CNote> brian98: standby
[01:04] <HeXiOn> BlueEagle: ok, I'll check them :)
[01:04] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow: what was that command you gave me to edit it, the gksudo one
[01:05] <HeXiOn> bye
[01:05] <greg> why wont my tunercard work:(
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  from a terminal
[01:05] <BlueEagle> hexion: ie: diff /usr/src/linux-2.6.15/makefile /usr/src/linux-2.6.17/makefile or something like that
[01:05] <aburton> I'm still having problems with my sound
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: write it down, you will use it again...
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: and again
[01:06] <Raziekiel> Yea, I just got some paper lol
[01:06] <brian98> cnote: are you working on the box now?
[01:06] <aburton> unless I duplicate the front channels, I only get sound out of my center speaker and sub
[01:06] <brian98> cnote: or are you on a different pc?
[01:06] <aburton> and if I duplicate the front channel, I can't control it with the master volume
[01:07] <CNote> brian98: i will be away for a few minutes, will you be on for a while, and we can get back to this, my apologies
[01:07] <brian98> no worries
[01:07] <CNote> thank you
[01:07] <brian98> send me a private message if I'm away and it will beep
[01:07] <greg> can someone help me get my tunercard to work?
[01:07] <sris> Could someone explain grub's "map" directive to me, because im not sure i understand it really.
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> sris,  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#map
[01:08] <Linux-Mania> can i install KDE from kubuntu-desktopCD to ubuntu
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> grub> map (hd0) (hd1)        grub> map (hd1) (hd0) ---------> swaps hd0 and hd1
[01:08] <sris> Dr_Willis: well, i've read that over and over again ;)
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> whats so hard about that?
[01:09] <Telarian02> could messing around with the acx drivers in /lib/firmware destabilize your kernel?
[01:09] <Ademan> all of the sudden i can't ssh (through GNOME) into my webserver, but i can do it through the console...
[01:09] <linuchsan> greg:what does lsmod say about tuner
[01:09] <sris> Dr_Willis: e.g. i dont understand why do it both ways
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> sris,  normally map is only needed to get windows to think its on the first hard drive
[01:09] <greg> lsmod|grep tv?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> sris,  do it one way.. then ya cant  get to the 2nd drive. :P
[01:09] <BlueEagle> linuchsan: if you've got kubuntu installed and want ubuntu just install the ubuntu-desktop meta package.
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> sris,   ya expected them to swap automaticially? heh
[01:10] <maple> KDE > gnome
[01:10] <sris> Dr_Willis: well, i dont know what i expect, that's the problem
[01:10] <Ademan> maple: HAH
[01:10] <sris> Dr_Willis: but it doesn't work ;)
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> sris,  depends on what you are trying to do.
[01:10] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: also sata+ide has got issues in grub.
[01:10] <sris> Dr_Willis: does it have anything to do with the root directive
[01:10] <linuchsan> greg:tuner
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> BlueEagle,  yes it does. :P
[01:11] <sris> Dr_Willis: im trying to dual boot ubunutu/windows, with windows on a sata drive and ubuntu on an ide drive
[01:11] <brian98> can someone point me in the correct direction of setting up 2 monitors so you can drag and drop windows between the monitors - using ati radeon card!
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> root directive sets where to find the initial files.
[01:11] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: I really hated that a couple of months ago. :/
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> sris,  you had windows installed and running on the sata befor installing ubuntu?
[01:11] <compengi> how to limit background per user
[01:11] <sris> Dr_Willis: yes
[01:11] <Telarian02> can anyone tell me why on kernel 2.6.15-26 when i boot my laptop and log on but it just takes me back to the login screen over and over again?
[01:11] <tizwonder> ubuntu has officially made linux easier to install than windows :x ;x ;x
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> sris,  and what is it doing wrong?
[01:12] <sris> Dr_Willis: if i pick windows from the grub menu, i get "Filesystem type unknown, parition type 0x7"
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i noticed that ubuntus grub installer installs the boot loader to hda by default, which was not what drive i was bootin goff of.
[01:12] <sris> Dr_Willis: and i have to reboot with ctrl+alt+del
[01:13] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159329
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> sris,  check your windows entry in grub  its possible its got the wrong hard drive in the entry
[01:13] <sris> Dr_Willis: checked it multiple times too. im pretty sure it's the right one
[01:13] <BlueEagle> 0x7?
[01:13] <aburton> ok, so I have two sata drives- one has 4 partitions (/home, /. swap and FAT32) and the other has two partitions (windows and fat32) but when I installed ubuntu amd64 it didn't include windows in the grub menu.lst You can see what I have here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22387 Whenever I try to boot into windows, it gives me a "filesystem unknown" error. What's  with?
[01:13] <greg> can i update tunercard drivers or somtin to fix it?
[01:13] <sris> Dr_Willis: accroding to the devices.map-file
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i had my device.map file be WRONG for my default ubuntu install. :P
[01:13] <compengi> how to limit background per user
[01:14] <sris> Dr_Willis: oh, how can i check that?
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> cat /boot/grub/device.map
[01:14] <BlueEagle> 0x7 should be ntfs iirc
[01:14] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Thanks mate! Got the new resolution =D
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> double check and be sure they are pointing to where your menu.lst is thinking they should be,
[01:14] <linuchsan> greg:modinfo bttv
[01:14] <sris> Dr_Willis: that's the file i meant?
[01:14] <eternalswd> anyone know of an xchat build for ubuntu that has the dccserver patch included?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: HAd me worried for a sec
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: Glad everything is working...
[01:15] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  Yep, installing BitchX now, I don't like gaim for IRC. Also, Do I need to install motherboard drivers?
[01:15] <sris> Dr_Willis: According to that file, it's the right drive in menu.lst
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> People. it has been fun, enjoy your weekend. I'm outta here....
[01:16] <dibblego> after spending several hours trying to get nvidia to work unsuccessfully, I figured i'd try on a fresh 6.06.1 install to no avail; apt-get install nvidia-glx, nvidia-xconfig, restart X fails - 'failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) ... Fatal server error: no screens found" -- is it possible to get the nvidia driver to work?
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Raziekiel: You should not... I like knoversation... but those are personal choices...
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> konversation
[01:16] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159330
[01:16] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm used to mIRC or telnet, thats all I've ever used
[01:17] <sris> Dr_Willis: I've tried to do some googling on the issue, and found some people with similar problems, and someone suggested changing the access mode on the drives in bios to LBA/Large, and not auto.  :P trouble shoot the issue. Heh.. let me paste my configs to pastebin for ya to look at.
[01:17] <omnid> Somehow Ubuntu just 'forgot' it exists
[01:17] <sris> Dr_Willis: ehe, ok. thanks
[01:17] <dibblego> !nvidia > dibblego
[01:17] <linuchsan> greg:and dmesg, all the messages please
[01:18] <nehoksan> hi
[01:18] <nehoksan> is ubuntu better than debian?
[01:18] <sris> Dr_Willis: it's just annoying, my first linux install ever, and i dont want something like this to ruin it ;)
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> sris,  ive had issues with the update-grub script being incorrect in how it does a few things..  :P
[01:19] <Homer> hello
[01:19] <sris> Dr_Willis: i see, well, it's a good thing im still able to boot from the sata drive directly though ;)
[01:19] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159332
[01:19] <Homer> is there a automatic way to update from version 5.10 to versio 6.06
[01:19] <Homer> ?
[01:19] <phiber_optic> BHSPitMonkey, yeah i did that but I think it chooses from the icon package
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> sris,  ive also got a motehrboard where i can hit F11 and get a boot menu - that lets me select what hard drive to boot. with it. i can boot straight off the windows drive without going into grub first.
[01:19] <ompaul> !upgrade
[01:19] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:19] <BHSPitMonkey> nehoksan, strictly speaking, you can't call one distro "better" than another. informally speaking, yes, ubuntu is better for the end-user than debian is.
[01:19] <Homer> cool
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i did it that way for months.. then onlyu recently got grub to work more 'normal' :P
[01:20] <ompaul> Homer, be warned if you have used automatix or altered the distro it will most likely break
[01:20] <sris> Dr_Willis: ah, if i had that it would be that much of a problem
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> sris,  i sort of perfer the F11 menu. that way Linux was totally hidden from others.
[01:20] <sris> Dr_Willis: hehe, as it is now i have to enter bios and change the order manually
[01:20] <nehoksan> thx BHSPitMonkey
[01:20] <ompaul> !samba > Gumby
[01:20] <Raziekiel> Jack_Sparrow:  I downloaded the bitchx source and installed it in Synaptic Package manager. But how do I run it? lol
[01:21] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah, Gumby. printer sharing seems to suck in dapper.
[01:21] <ompaul> Gumby, that is a basic setup the bot just told you about
[01:21] <maple> is it possible to run ubuntu on the 1.0 version of the linux kernel?
[01:21] <BHSPitMonkey> definitely not as easy as it should be.
[01:21] <killown> how I add full support the non-free programs?
[01:21] <richiefrich> Gumby what are the other pc's running?
[01:21] <killown> how I add full support the non-free programs in source.lst??
[01:21] <richiefrich> Gumby  if all linux cups is easy
[01:21] <phiber_optic> BHSPitMonkey, where are all icons located?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> sris,  most grub issues ive had/seen is just confusion about the ordering/naming of the drives
[01:21] <sris> Dr_Willis: just asking to be sure. which file did you have to alter. the devices.map?
[01:21] <BHSPitMonkey> phiber_optic, you might need to go and download a firefox icon.
[01:21] <ompaul> maple, if you recompile all the apps and remove lots functionality maybe
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> sris,  lik eusing (hdo) when ya mean (hd0,0) and so on.
[01:21] <compengi> how to limit background per user
[01:21] <maple> ompaul, cool
[01:22] <Gumby> richiefrich: windows client ubuntu server.  I already have samba setup but the printer isnt showing up on the client side.
[01:22] <TehBlackSharpie> anyone know of a good clone of AIM for linux?
[01:22] <richiefrich> Gumby then that samba
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> sris,  my devices.map had a drive on like hd3, when in fact it was hd2 according to the menu.lst
[01:22] <ompaul> maple, that reads as no - I was being ... ironic
[01:22] <phiber_optic> BHSPitMonkey, ok ill do that
[01:22] <killown> I cannot install nautilus-media with apt-get why?
[01:22] <BHSPitMonkey> TehBlackSharpie, uhh, gaim...
[01:22] <Gumby> richiefrich: and I already have cups for linux sharing.
[01:22] <compengi> Gumby you need to install a driver for the printer
[01:22] <Gumby> compengi: no I dont.  The printer is already working fine
[01:22] <ompaul> maple, the hardware support would not be there it would drive you mand
[01:23] <TehBlackSharpie> yeah, I have gaim but it doesn't support some of the features that AIM has
[01:23] <richiefrich> Gumby is the driver instaled on windows
[01:23] <Gumby> compengi: the problem is that the clients arent seeing it.
[01:23] <Gumby> richiefrich: yes it is
[01:23] <aburton> what is wrong with my menu.lst? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22390
[01:23] <sris> Dr_Willis: ah ok.. another thing that confused me was that i read that you should be able to toggle the different device-names in the grub shell.
[01:23] <richiefrich> Gumby ok then
[01:23] <BHSPitMonkey> TehBlackSharpie, then try kopete. otherwise, you're stuck.
[01:23] <Gumby> richiefrich: the client doesnt even see the printer so even at this point a driver is pointless
[01:23] <BHSPitMonkey> I prefer gaim.
[01:23] <cliffd> any ideas. I have 1 hard drive that will detect in the bios and the post, but when I boot fdisk does'nt see it?
[01:23] <maple> ompaul, no one needs more than a 486
[01:23] <TehBlackSharpie> ok, thanks
[01:23] <sris> Dr_Willis: but i tried e.g. root (hd0,"tab" and it says that "drive doesnt exist"
[01:23] <aburton> I can't boot into windows. It gives me a "filetsystem unknown" error. what is wrong with my menu.lst? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22390
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> sris,  the grub shell can do all sorts of things.. the menu.lst is basicially a list of commands the shell runs.
[01:23] <richiefrich> Gumby well i was just checkin. it might be windows. what ver?
[01:24] <Gumby> richiefrich: XP Home.  GF;s lappy
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> sris,  you perhaps had a space in the wrong place, or dident  do somthing else quite right.
[01:24] <maple> LOL, konqueror just crashed going to microsoft.com
[01:24] <sris> Dr_Willis: i just thought it was odd, the "disc doesnt exist" error
[01:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:24] <sris> Dr_Willis: probably
[01:24] <killown> I cannot install nautilus-media with apt-get why?
[01:25] <NullVector> can someone help me sound in games? when I Launch Americas Army I have no sound
[01:25] <greg> its not one one of sources
[01:25] <greg> on ure source list
[01:25] <maple> does microsoft.com crash anyone else's konqueror?
[01:25] <killown> I want full support in apt-get what I do?
[01:25] <frisb> anyone got ATI drivers 8.26.18 working with Radeon X1300?
[01:25] <sris> Dr_Willis: dont you need any "map" directives in you menu.lst file?
[01:26] <richiefrich> Gumby :\ i was hoping for a win2k :P
[01:26] <aburton> anyone? please?
[01:26] <sris> Dr_Willis: dont you need any "map" directives in you menu.lst file?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> sris,  yea - if the names are not right.. it dont exist. :P
[01:26] <Gumby> richiefrich: I could only wish
[01:26] <killown> anyone helpme
[01:26] <greg> killown: find the ultimate source list
[01:26] <cliffd> how do I get console msgs ? my glxgears isnt out putting anything and I dont know why. maybe its going to console?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> sris,  no. thats ONLY to swap the order of the drives.. which i do not see why you are needing to do that at all.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> sris,  at one time windows HAD to be on the first hard drive.. you could put iot on the 2nd hd and 'swap' the 2 with grub to get around the limit
[01:27] <sris> Dr_Willis: hehe, that was kind of what should've asked the first time
[01:27] <richiefrich> Gumby i was wishing too :P
[01:27] <sris> Dr_Willis: but i've read it of the net ;)
[01:27] <kairu0> whenever i switch to a virtual terminal or exit X to return to gdm, everything just goes blank on the screen. any ideas?
[01:27] <sethk> illusia-ru, ping
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> sris,  you got sata and ide - and with XP its not the same problem it used to be.
[01:27] <killown> greg where I found it?
[01:27] <Raziekiel> Does wine work on 64bit ubuntu
[01:28] <sris> Dr_Willis: ok, i haven't even thought of it. but actually the map commands were allready in my menu.lst file. so i will try to remove them ;)
[01:28] <greg> to edit your source list its at etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <macdo> cliffd: use this command: "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby  have you look at this ? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing/sharing_with_windows.html
[01:29] <Gumby> richiefrich: unfortunately yes
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby your config my be perfect idk
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby :(
[01:29] <richiefrich> Gumby it might not be linux now..
[01:29] <Gumby> it seems that samba isnt showing the printers
[01:29] <VHockey86_server> Is there no webmin package for dapper?
[01:29] <gunnar> !xgl
[01:29] <sris> Dr_Willis: thanks for beeing so helpful, reboot time is here ;)
[01:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:29] <Gumby> could be a samba config also
[01:30] <richiefrich> Gumby it might be that windows is being gay
[01:30] <richiefrich> Gumby that does happen :P
[01:30] <aburton> Dr_Willis:: You seem to know something about grub... I have two sata drives- one has 4 partitions (/home, /. swap and FAT32) and the other has two partitions (windows and fat32) but when I installed ubuntu amd64 it didn't include windows in the grub menu.lst You can see what I have here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22387 Whenever I try to boot into windows, it gives me a "filesystem unknown" error. What's  with?
[01:30] <Gumby> richiefrich: I just checked from my laptop and the add printer wizard sees the smb daemon on the server but no printers are listed in it
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  sounds identical to sris 's problem
[01:30] <richiefrich> Gumby o.O hm
[01:31] <aburton> I thought he had one sata and one ide?
[01:31] <aburton> and map commands? I don't know what those are
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  check your  /boot/grub/menu.lst  and   /boot/grub/device.map   be sure they are actually pointing to the right drives and not 'naming' them  differntly
[01:31] <bill__> what do you guys think of kubuntu?
[01:31] <MrFeetio> i want gaim to display what song rhythmbox is playing
[01:31] <phiber_optic> when i unzip a icon into the theme managaer where does it install it?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  it lets you swap drives.. most likely NOT needed.
[01:32] <motin_> If you have any experience in troubleshooting sound on linux, please take a look at this:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249545 Appreciate all help!
[01:32] <maple> does microsoft.com crash anyone else's konqueror?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  /usr/local/share most likely if as root..   or .themes (i think) as a user
[01:32] <phiber_optic> Dr_Willis thats whta i thought
[01:32] <phiber_optic> cant find the folder or something like that
[01:33] <greg> can someone help me get my tunercard to work?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> greg,  and what tv tuner card ya got?
[01:33] <aburton> Dr_Willis: (hd0)   /dev/sda   (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[01:33] <Roh81> hello all.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  and what one of those is windows partition? :)
[01:34] <maple> does microsoft.com crash anyone else's konqueror?
[01:34] <aburton> Dr_Willis: hd1
[01:34] <linuchsan> Gumby:can you post your smb.conf?
[01:34] <sris> :/ no luck
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  so which partition on hd1 is the windows partition?
[01:34] <aburton> the first one
[01:34] <greg> wintv go-plus
[01:35] <Roh81> x_x Really wierd to come into a chat room like this and have no clue what anyone is talking about.
[01:35] <sris> this makes me so sad..
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  so hd1,0 is the windows partition.. now.. has windows always been on that one? or did you install it. then move the hard drives?
[01:36] <aburton> I had both drives wiped, and I installed on the second disk
[01:36] <aburton> but it needed to copy files onto the machine
[01:36] <aburton> to install
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you mean the raid drivers?
[01:36] <aburton> no
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> or sata drivers for windows?
[01:36] <aburton> no, just installation files
[01:36] <aburton> it copied them over before they installed
[01:36] <aburton> but onto the first drive
[01:37] <Roh81> Would this be the place to come for help if your a complete newbie?
[01:37] <greg> yes
[01:37] <richiefrich> sure
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you had both drives empty, then  installed windows to the 2nd hd.. and it (what It?) copied what instalation files to the first drive?
[01:37] <Gumby> linuchsan: sure, one sec
[01:37] <Raziekiel> cd /usr/lib32
[01:37] <Raziekiel> er ignore that plz
[01:37] <richiefrich> Raziekiel lol wrong windows :P
[01:37] <Roh81> Well I plan on reading up on alot of things but first I was hoping for some help getting a few small things working.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> all this grub/sata issues - remind me of why i use my 2 ide drives for the OS and the satas for data.
[01:38] <absinthius> Anyone know of any programs that you can connect to ventrilo servers with?
[01:38] <richiefrich> Roh81 which are ?
[01:38] <aburton> Dr_Willis: ok, so I installed onto the second drive, but it said " in order to install, windows needs to copy files over to the first drive" or something like that.
[01:38] <Roh81> First I need to get to where I can read ntfs partitions. Just read.
[01:38] <sris> Dr_Willis: it's nice with sata for oses too ;)
[01:38] <cliffd> anyone know why my glxgears would not output frame count?
[01:38] <|DrV> glxgears -showfps
[01:38] <richiefrich> Roh81 ok what /dev ?
[01:38] <aburton> Dr_Willis: it = windows installer
[01:38] <cliffd> |DrV: thanks much
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  odd..  any reasons you wanted windows on the 2nd drive?
[01:39] <Roh81> A lot of terms arent going to make sense to me without explination. Im a total newb to linux.
[01:39] <|DrV> wait, that's wrong, hold on :)
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  it may of been refering to the boot loader.
[01:39] <richiefrich> Roh81  and where do you want it mounted?
[01:39] <|DrV> -printfps
[01:39] <cliffd> |DrV: how are you getting the command switches for glxgears? i tried --help -? nothing worked for me
[01:39] <aburton> Dr_Willis: yeah, so if something happened to one drive, I'd still have an OS
[01:39] <Roh81> Rich can I PM you? The text in here is distracting.
[01:39] <richiefrich> Roh81   the hard drive is know as a  device
[01:39] <sris> Dr_Willis: i think im just gonna stick with windows and by a macbook instead ;)
[01:39] <VladimirBG> hey
[01:39] <|DrV> cliffd, i just did strings `which glxgears`
[01:39] <CokeNCode> ok guys, getting hell with an saa7134 tv tuner card for hte last couple months
[01:39] <richiefrich> Roh81   yes
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  but why not put windows on the first drive?
[01:39] <CokeNCode> for hte love of God ... help please
[01:39] <frogzoo> !docs > Roh81
[01:40] <aburton> Dr_Willis: no reason
[01:40] <cliffd> |DrV: what is strings?
[01:40] <Gumby> linuchsan: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LbzphE36.html  smb.conf is there
[01:40] <greg> can i run windows 98 in vmware on ubuntu?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> sris,  or get some more ide drives. :P I got 6 in one of my machines
[01:40] <frogzoo> greg: of course
[01:40] <|DrV> cliffd, it's part of binutils which just prints out human-readable strings from an arbitrary file
[01:40] <sris> Dr_Willis: im phasing out the ide drives from this box ;)
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you may be better off putting windows on the first hd. it just Perfers to be on the first drive.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> sris,  bah! :P
[01:40] <cliffd> |DrV: nice. I still get nothing
[01:40] <greg> how do i get vmware? apt-get install vmware?
[01:40] <rev11> ugh. im trying to intall this again and i selected the vesa driver for my monitor, but this time it just goes to blank screen
[01:40] <sris> Dr_Willis: i've already got 4 ide drives in it ;)
[01:41] <aburton> Dr_Willis: and how would I go about doing that?
[01:41] <frogzoo> !fixres > rev11
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> sris,  yep my fileserver is the same.. + 2 ide controller cards. :P
[01:41] <macdo> cliffd: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:41] <macdo> no joke!
[01:41] <|DrV> yeah, that will work too
[01:41] <|DrV> but -printfps works fine for me
[01:42] <cliffd> macdo: crazy. it works
[01:42] <sris> Dr_Willis: nice, well, that's it for today, need more food or something to find the strenght to keep on resolving this
[01:42] <Zunino> Could anybody tell me how does one go about stopping the "Software Updates" monitor from notifying about a particular package? I removed the packages gaim and gaim-data which come pre-installed and installed a newer Gaim from a .deb file. But the notifier won't stop telling me there are updates available.
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  reinstall windows to the first hd perhaps?
[01:42] <sris> Dr_Willis: thanks for everything ;)
[01:42] <cliffd> macdo: thanks
[01:43] <macdo> no prob - but did it work?
[01:43] <aburton> Dr_Willis: not a chance. I'm not installing windows after ubuntu. I've done it before, and it's a mess to fix
[01:43] <cliffd> |DrV: no -printfps works also thanks for that and for strings! :)
[01:43] <cliffd> macdo: yeah it did. and it also made -printfps work after I did the glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:43] <phiber_optic> does anybody knows where does the icons go when u dragg it directly into the themes? I mean it what directory
[01:43] <VladimirBG> Does anyone know how to fix inverted colours in movies? I've installed the latest fglrx(also tried one from the repository same result) and that's whan the colours got messed up...
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  actually its not a mess to fix. :P if ya know your grub fu.
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  you got ubuntu installed where exactly?
[01:44] <aburton> (hd0,0)
[01:44] <easytiger> anyone here use opera? do you have problems with skins and the menubar?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  so youve basicially put things in the worse order. :P heh.
[01:45] <illusia-ru> easytiger, no
[01:45] <HeathenDan> what kind of problems with skins and menubars?
[01:45] <killown> greg where I found it?
[01:45] <easytiger> nothing like this then? http://belfast.no-ip.info/apache2-default/operathing.png
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> aburton,  by installing ubuntu on hd0, AFTER installing windows to hd1, where wundows installer then 'copied some files over' may of confused windows.
[01:45] <killown> where  I find the ultimate source.list?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
 see the image for best explanation. the mnu bar at the top doesn't seem to skin exceptt for the text itself
[01:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:46] <aburton> Dr_Willis: I'll see if I can repair the installation
[01:47] <killown> thanks
[01:47] <aburton> thanks
[01:47] <greg> can someone give me a link to a tutorial on ubuntu vmware?
[01:47] <Flannel> !tell greg about vmware
[01:47] <Zunino> How to stop the software updates reminder from advertising updates available for a version of Gaim older than the one I have installed?
[01:48] <HeathenDan> nope
[01:48] <HeathenDan> have you tried restarting opera? or perhaps choosing another skin and going back to that black one?
i just spent today installing it if you have any questions
[01:48] <Zunino> Is it possible to selectively turn off reminders for specific packages?
 its every skin. it also happens in kde
[01:48] <Knelix> Hello guys.
[01:49] <HeathenDan> opera-shared or opera-static?
[01:49] <VladimirBG> Does anyone know how to fix inverted colours in movies? I've installed the latest fglrx(also tried one from the repository same result) and that's whan the colours got messed up...
 not sure.. i was just about to redownload
[01:50] <HeathenDan> well, when i have problems with the menubar and skins, i just change skins and go back... it ought to fix the problem
[01:50] <Knelix> Problems with xmame again... I started it up, ocrrected the game directory and it worked perfectly.. then all of a sudden, after I changed screen res, it showed no available games. I've switched back the res, quit the app, rebooted, double-checked the paths, and nothing... it just seems to have stopped working without reason... what on Earth could be happening here?
 well i've changed the skin a lot. happens on default skin too
[01:51] <phiber_optic> does anybody knows where does the icons go when u dragg it directly into the themes? I mean it what directory
[01:52] <Dekkard> is it time to upgrade to edgy?
[01:52] <HeathenDan> i'm changing skins as we speak. but i don't have kde and im using opera-static
[01:53] <HeathenDan> wait for the official release like the rest of us
[01:53] <yango> how do you create a special device? (I plugged in a external USB drive, and want to know what's the manual way to do the mounting... I know how to mount when the device exists (pmount /dev/foo) but how do I create /dev/foo from the USB plugged device?)
 where can i get opera-static?
[01:53] <VladimirBG> Does anyone know how to fix video playback issue with Ati's fglrx drivers?
[01:53] <HeathenDan> are you using system color scheme easytiger? what if you chose otherwise?
[01:54] <greg> easytiger: is it going to take me all night to install:(?
[01:54] <rev11> yea..
[01:54] <rev11> can anyone accually help me with this
[01:54] <kingpanga> hi
[01:55] <kingpanga> help pls
[01:55] <Knelix> Can anyone aid me with my xmame difficulties?
 ha. no its actually quite smooth now.
[01:55] <kingpanga> im working with knoppix  and i want to write on my hard drive using ubuntu but it is set to read only
 tried that too. is very odd. but i can only find a opera-shared package for ubuntu
[01:55] <rev11> the monitor still isnt working, its reallame and getting annoying. ive tried the resolution fix, running in vesa, and everything. it doesnt work.
[01:55] <HeathenDan> easytiger, wait, lemme look at my sources.list
 the only gotchas i had were with the sound
[01:56] <easytiger> but i just fixed that
[01:56] <linuchsan> kingpanga:su
[01:56] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm getting the following error 'cannot open capture device /dev/video0'
[01:56] <greg> ok
[01:56] <CokeNCode> anyone have any clue what could be causing that ?
[01:56] <CokeNCode> and how do i find out if that is the correct device for my saa7134
[01:56] <Codyman> is there a channel for edgy eft?
[01:56] <CokeNCode> and if it's not, how do i change it ?
[01:56] <Homer> ubuntu 6.06 can fit on a single CD-R?
[01:56] <CokeNCode> Homer, yes
[01:56] <BHSPitMonkey> yep
[01:57] <HeathenDan> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free <-- easytiger
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Codyman, #ubuntu+1
[01:57] <rev11> ucrapu more like it
 excellent.. i'll try that
[01:57] <VladimirBG> I have an issue with video playback, bad enough for me to change distro if I don't fix it...
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Homer, Dapper is awesome. Live and Install CD
[01:57] <davidf> Hi, I need help with install, 5.10 - Think HD is full. Install stopped, have shell, what cmd to show disk space, please?
[01:57] <davidf> HD is 2 Gig.
[01:57] <profoX`> VladimirBG: whats the issue
[01:57] <greg>  cd: command not found?
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> davidf, fdisk -ls
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> err "sudo fdisk -ls
[01:58] <davidf> Admiral_Chicago, thanks
?
[01:58] <kingpanga> linuchsan: file system read only
[01:58] <VladimirBG> after instaling fglrx driver on my laptop colours are inverted
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> it probablly wont fit on the HDD, ubuntu takes ~6 Gb
[01:58] <greg> cd /the/complete/path/to/the/folder/where/the/file/is/located
[01:58] <frogzoo> davidf: df
[01:58] <BHSPitMonkey> VladimirBG, that sounds really cool!
[01:58] <greg> says cd not found
[01:58] <greg> cd: command not found
[01:59] <rev11> no one else is having errors on installing? and having xserver not work
[01:59] <VladimirBG> profoX`, in multiple players including VLC and Totem
 what does?
[01:59] <|DrV> is there a 32-bit ncurses lib for amd64?
[01:59] <richard2> Good text program .... for images cool fonts etc?
[01:59] <frogzoo> VladimirBG: you sure the driver supports your card?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> greg, its may not have installed a shell by naw
[01:59] <profoX`> frogzoo: won't work -- df -h only works for partitions that are mounted
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> yet*
[01:59] <VladimirBG> yes, the brand new drivers
[01:59] <profoX`> VladimirBG: okay, *what* is the problem?
[01:59] <profoX`> not where :)
[02:00] <VladimirBG> profoX`, colours are inverted
[02:00] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what do you want to do?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> anyone use nicotine in here?
[02:00] <greg> how do i navigate using the terminal?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> greg: cd
 excellent call. that fixed it
[02:00] <greg> says cd: command not found
[02:00] <HeathenDan> what fixed it?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> greg: any bash temrinal will use cd
[02:00] <VladimirBG> profoX`, after instaling fglrx, and yes I need drivers to get 1200x800 on my laptop and for powermanagement
[02:00] <gnomefreak> terminal
[02:01] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you try another video output?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> greg: what are you doing and what are you trying to do
[02:01] <greg> cept mine
[02:01] <greg> im tryn to instal vmware
[02:01] <VladimirBG> profoX`, opengl an Xv if that's what you mean
[02:01] <greg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:01] <profoX`> yes thats what i mean
 we shall need a bit more info :p
[02:01] <profoX`> VladimirBG: both have inverted video?
[02:01] <rev11> horray
[02:01] <VladimirBG> profoX`, yes
[02:01] <greg> im just folling that tut
[02:01] <gnomefreak> where are you tryin to cd to?
[02:01] <rev11> how to i get the GUI come back for the setup? what the command
[02:02] <ormandj> is it a known issue that the cds mailed via shipit originally had problems? mine never gets past 32% on the install, ever, it gets "stuck" although the mouse is still responsive
[02:02] <greg> cd /home/greg/desktop/vmware
[02:02] <ormandj> curious if it's just me (5.10 worked fine btw)
[02:02] <VladimirBG> profoX`, when using VESA drivers, all is godd except resolution and lack of power managment for Ati
[02:02] <gnomefreak> greg: cd ~/Desktop/vmware
[02:02] <easytiger> and you'r typing this into a terminal greg?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> greg: that doesnt work?
[02:02] <exs> I have a problem guys. I want to syncronise my sony ericsson phone (w810i) but I don't know how. I'd like to get all the text messages off of it.
[02:02] <greg> thnx that worked
[02:03] <profoX`> VladimirBG: and with the open source radeon driver? inverted colors too?
[02:03] <profoX`> or only with fglrx
[02:03] <omnid> I seem to be having the mesa issue
[02:03] <ciphex> hey guys
[02:03] <omnid> Hey you guys are talking about something similar it seems
[02:03] <rev11> ..
[02:03] <rev11> no one knows the command to restard the gui
[02:03] <rev11> gnome or whatever
[02:03] <VladimirBG> profoX`, only with fglrx
[02:03] <HeathenDan> yeah, i never got around to getting my SE phone to work with ubuntu
[02:03] <rev11> so i can continue the setup
[02:04] <Xenguy> rev11: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:04] <rev11> thank you
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x
[02:04] <VladimirBG> profoX`, but os ati doesn't detect my widescreen LCD screen
[02:04] <profoX`> VladimirBG: yea well.. its better to use fglrx anyway.. more features.. and faster
 thanks for the help
[02:05] <profoX`> whaat card did you have again VladimirBG ?
[02:05] <nytemask> anyone have any trouble with pan and .nzb files?
[02:05] <HeathenDan> np
[02:05] <VladimirBG> Ati Mobility Radeon X1300
[02:05] <kingpanga> linuchsan: i want to write on my hard drive but i cant --file system set to read only--
 did you run the reconfigure utility?
[02:05] <rev11> well it says starting gnome display failed
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: ntfs... should be read only
[02:05] <rev11> can anyone help with that?
[02:05] <profoX`> nytemask: Klibido (or sabnzbd) is better for big .nzb files and newsgroups.. Pan can't handle much
[02:05] <VladimirBG> easytiger, you mean aticonfig, yes I did
[02:05] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> rev11, you probably have your X system installed incorrectly
[02:06] <nytemask> profox: thanks
[02:06] <rev11> thats what ive been working on for 3 hours
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: What format on the hard drive you are trying to writ to.?
[02:06] <rev11> and i think i get somewhere and then i dont
[02:06] <rev11> :P
[02:06] <ciphex> anybody know a good bit about sound config under Drake?
[02:06] <Telarian02> can anyone tell me why on kernel 2.6.15-26 when i boot my laptop and log on but it just takes me back to the login screen over and over again?
[02:06] <profoX`> nytemask: Klibido is easy to install, Sabnzbd is waaay better, but it's hard to install (you have to compile it yourself)
[02:06] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I have the Ati Mobility Radeon X1300, and the latest drivers
[02:06] <easytiger> d<VladimirBG>: no : pkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <rev11> the ATI drivers dont work for setup apparantly, the vesa ones arnt working for me or something
[02:06] <rev11> gah
[02:06] <nytemask> profox: good to know. thanks for the heads up
[02:06] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: ext3
[02:07] <kingpanga> i think
[02:07] <profoX`> nytemask: np
[02:07] <easytiger> d<VladimirBG>: edit : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <VladimirBG> easytiger, yesp dpkg-reconfi... yes I tried that too
[02:07] <omnid> How do I get the GUI installation of the radeon drivers
[02:07] <eklesp> can you run compiz without xgl ?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: Could you explain what you are trying to do .. in detail
[02:07] <profoX`> VladimirBG: i had an x700 that worked fine.. i tried searching google/launchpad too.. didnt come across your problem
 : i got a widescreen a few weeks ago.. took a bit of messing around. not sure exactly how it got sorted
[02:07] <bettsp> What's the Ubuntu Dev channel?
[02:07] <ciphex> im having a right horrible time trying to make the sound card work properly if anyone knows about sound setup please send me a PM
[02:08] <profoX`> eklesp: yes and no -- it doesn't need to be XGL, it can also be AIGLX
[02:08] <VladimirBG> profoX`,I found a few posts in beta dapper but no solutions...
[02:08] <kingpanga> Jack_Sparrow: im working with knoppix  and i want to write on my hard drive using ubuntu but file system set to read only
[02:08] <VladimirBG> profoX`, (beta dapper forum)
[02:08] <profoX`> VladimirBG: link?
[02:08] <VladimirBG> just a sec
[02:08] <profoX`> k
[02:08] <inco> i just installed the madwifi drivers and i can put it in monitor mode but when i start kismet it keeps saying FATAL: Failed to retrieve list of private ioctls 7:Argument list too long ive looked on google and i cant find anything helpful anyone have any suggestions?
[02:08] <greg> greg@greg-desktop:~/Desktop/vmware$ sudo ./install.pl
[02:08] <greg> sudo: ./install.pl: command not found
[02:08] <rev11> can ayone please please please please help me with this crap
[02:08] <greg> now what am i doing wrong?
[02:08] <rev11> xserver just doesnt like me
[02:08] <profoX`> ciphex: what kind of sound card? do you know if its PCI or ISA ?
[02:09] <something_else> people, wpa_supplicant seems to no longer support madwifi ... no wpa ... what can I do to solve this?
[02:09] <ciphex> it's a Creative Sound Blaster card that shipped in an older gateway
[02:09] <profoX`> rev11: GDM crashes over and over again? (after logging in?)
[02:09] <ciphex> it's a  PCI128
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> kingpanga: Let people know what is on the hard drive and what you are runing live and they will help... I dont have enough time atm
[02:10] <profoX`> rev11: look for errors in the file /var/log/gdm/:0.log -- in the terminal you can do it like this: less /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[02:10] <ciphex> i can't determin any specific name for it but i have the model #'s and shit.. googling hasn't helped
[02:10] <rev11> either there are no screens, or screens that arnt usable
[02:10] <rev11> thats as far as i get
[02:10] <kingpanga> ok thanks
[02:10] <MrMikey> Should some sort of config app come with alsa-utils?
[02:10] <exs> How do I synchornise my phones data (messages/contacts/etc) with ubuntu?.. does anyone know an app that can do this? I have a w810i sony ericsson.
[02:10] <kingpanga> HELP PLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:10] <greg> what am i doing wrong?
[02:11] <profoX`> rev11: ehm.. wait.. do you get the graphical login screen or not?
[02:11] <rev11> no
[02:11] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell kingpanga about shouting
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <ciphex> what i do know is that alsa see's it as an Ensonic AudioPCI
[02:11] <VladimirBG> profoX`, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163398&highlight=ati+movie+colours
[02:11] <StoneNote> greg go into your /Desktop/vmware/ directory and do a ls and put it in pastebin for me
[02:11] <kingpanga> im using knoppix  and i want to write on my hard drive using ubuntu but file system set to read only
[02:11] <rev11> x serv errors after all the mounting things, and then brings to prompt
[02:11] <rev11> im trying to install off cd
[02:11] <StoneNote> greg better yet do ls -l
[02:11] <eugman> What is gnomebaker a frontend for?
[02:11] <rev11> the ati thing clearly doesnt work, so i tried vesa
[02:11] <rev11> but then it just says no monitors for useable config
[02:12] <linuchsan> kingpanga:can you start a terminal
[02:12] <ciphex> and if i play with the Alsa util i can get audio to come out... but it's covered in static and unsolid
[02:12] <VladimirBG> profoX`, sorry bad link, this is the one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1018396&highlight=ati+movie+colours#post1018396
[02:12] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: so you want to remount a filesystem as read/write?
[02:12] <kingpanga> ok
[02:12] <greg> http://pastebin.ca/159356
[02:12] <zebedee> eugman:cd/dvd burning / creating
[02:12] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: did you investigate the manual page for mount?
[02:12] <ciphex> once on fresh install of Breezy Badger everything worked out of the box
[02:12] <profoX`> VladimirBG: oh ..ok
[02:12] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: how
[02:12] <ciphex> now it won't
[02:12] <rev11> so now im stuck
[02:12] <eugman> Zebedee, I mean what's the command line equivalent
[02:13] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: in a terminal type: man mount
[02:13] <ciphex> im running Dapper Drake
[02:13] <kingpanga> ok
[02:13] <StoneNote> greg ok, give me a second.
[02:13] <phiber_optic> how can I uninstall something in ubuntu?
[02:13] <greg> k lemme get my watch
[02:13] <zebedee> of that i have no idea sorry :-o
[02:13] <profoX`> VladimirBG: yea not many useful info there either
[02:14] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you install fglrx from synaptic?
[02:14] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what does whoami say in a terminal?
[02:14] <StoneNote> greg it's vmware-install.pl not install.pl
[02:14] <profoX`> (or apt-get)
[02:14] <MrMikey> Hmm, ubuntu didn't find my soundcard automatically, where do I configure it to sort this?
[02:14] <phiber_optic> greg are u installing vmware?
[02:14] <inco> so for some reason kismet just wont run
[02:14] <ciphex> if you have any suggestions re: sound card config im all ears
[02:14] <Flannel> phiber_optic: apt-get remove [package]
[02:14] <greg> bash: vmware-install.pl: command not found
[02:14] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I tryed both synaptic and the ones from ati's site(wich took a while to get working
[02:14] <profoX`> MrMikey: you can't -- they took out that option -- is it an ISA card?
[02:14] <rev11> no screens found, whaty does that mean!
[02:14] <rev11> im looking at one!
[02:14] <inco> greg ./vmware-install.pl
[02:14] <phiber_optic> Flannel, but if I compiled manually such as vmware?
[02:14] <MrMikey> profoX`, On board I think
[02:15] <profoX`> VladimirBG: both didnt work ?? i'd blame the proprietary driver then.. :(
[02:15] <greg> phiber_optic:im trying to
[02:15] <phiber_optic> greg me too
[02:15] <profoX`> VladimirBG: (of course, you already knew that)
[02:15] <StoneNote> greg are you in /Desktop/vmware? did you type in ./vmware-install.pl from the shell?
[02:15] <profoX`> VladimirBG: but i don't know what could cause it..
[02:15] <Flannel> phiber_optic: you delete all the files manually (unless the makefile had  a make remove or something similar provided)
[02:15] <MrMikey> profoX`, It's pretty new, and I could get it to work with alsaconf, but a quick google tells me ubuntu doesn't use alsaconf >.<
[02:15] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what does whoami say in a terminal?
[02:15] <greg> yay
[02:15] <Flannel> rev11: have you not restarted for a while, after upgrading a week ago?
[02:15] <phiber_optic> Flannel, how will i know where it installed?
[02:15] <VladimirBG> profoX`, however, SuSE 10.0 didn;t have any issues...(installed that one to try)
[02:15] <profoX`> MrMikey: yea they ripped that out of ubuntu.. it might come back sometime.. new soundcards are PCI mostly.. what does the output: lspci | grep Multimedia
[02:16] <rev11> im running a new install from the CD
[02:16] <profoX`> give you?
[02:16] <StoneNote> greg success?
[02:16] <rev11> brand new
[02:16] <rev11> nevber installed
[02:16] <profoX`> VladimirBG: thats strange..
[02:16] <kingpanga> linuchsan: knoppix
[02:16] <MrMikey> profoX`,  0000:00:10.2 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 AC97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[02:16] <rev11> i dont understand why it says no screens. its onlky this linux
[02:16] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: you're probably looking for: mount -o remount,rw /dev/devicenode
[02:16] <profoX`> VladimirBG: hard to say where the problem is.. latest fglrx + your card should work fine afaik
[02:16] <rev11> its stupid or something
[02:16] <Flannel> phiber_optic: by looking in the makefile, etc. You need to find out manually.  There is no way to easily do it.  unless the makefile has that option.  Hense the point of package management ;)
[02:17] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I've lost 2 weeks now banging my head on this one...
[02:17] <greg> ugh 500 page agreement
[02:17] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: where devicenode is the drive in question (ie hda3)
[02:17] <Flannel> rev11: which install CD? 6.06.1?
[02:17] <kairu0> rev11, well, so long as its onkly linux
[02:17] <rev11> yea
[02:17] <phiber_optic> oh ok
[02:17] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you ever have it working ? (in breezy or something?)
[02:17] <rev11> funny guy
[02:17] <linuchsan> kingpanga:run su to become root
[02:17] <Flannel> kingpanga, linuchsan: no use sudo -s
[02:17] <VladimirBG> profoX`, no, the laptop is brand spanking new
[02:18] <profoX`> rev11: ehm.. wait.. do you get the graphical login screen or not?
[02:18] <rev11> no
[02:18] <Flannel> rev11: You'll be able to upgrade out of it.  Do you have a shell infront of you? (thats a prompt)
[02:18] <rev11> doesnt get that far
[02:18] <rev11> yea
[02:18] <VladimirBG> profoX`, Dell Inspiron 6400, dual core ati mob. x1300
[02:18] <linuchsan> Flannel:is not the issue
[02:18] <profoX`> rev11: whats the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[02:18] <rev11> im at the shell
[02:18] <Flannel> rev11: log in, type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:18] <profoX`> rev11: you can ignore things about wacom
[02:18] <ciphex> hehe profoX is busy today
[02:18] <profoX`> Flannel: thats not the problem -- its the install cd
[02:18] <eugman> Does gnomebaker act as a front for another program?
[02:18] <rev11> yea
[02:18] <profoX`> ciphex: lol.
[02:18] <rev11> im on the cd
[02:19] <rev11> let me try that profox
[02:19] <MrMikey> I got a load of wacom errors. I just went and deleted it all from xorg.conf :D
[02:19] <profoX`> VladimirBG: heavy machine though :) but you better got an nvidia :P
[02:19] <greg> yay
[02:19] <profoX`> MrMikey: wacom errors are "normal" -- you can ignore them
[02:19] <MrMikey> profoX`, X Wouldn't boot :(
[02:19] <MrMikey> load even
[02:19] <rev11> EE vesa no matching nodes
[02:20] <profoX`> MrMikey: now it does?
[02:20] <MrMikey> It's sorted now though
[02:20] <profoX`> rev11: modes*
[02:20] <MrMikey> Yeah
[02:20] <rev11> and screens found but none have useable config
[02:20] <zebedee> mornin is there a list 2 c if a pioneer dvd 105/ao5 is supported by d drake ? if so where  thx Z
[02:20] <VladimirBG> profoX`, well, I got this for just over 850 euros, including 3 years warrenty
[02:20] <profoX`> rev11: waht graphics card do you have?
[02:20] <rev11> ati x850 pro
[02:20] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: linuchsan: cant find /dev/devicenode in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:20] <HeathenDan> exs, read the comments here: http://contented.life.eu.org/articles/sony-ericsson-k750i-and-linux/
[02:20] <rev11> ive tried the ati drivers too but then it says no screens found
[02:20] <xKriemhildx> Asgre, ya viste cuanta gente?
[02:20] <greg> ok now how do i use vmware?
[02:20] <profoX`> zebedee: I don't nkow about a list -- but I guess its supported -- almost all (if not all) dvd burners are supported by linux -- i don't know about lightscribe
[02:20] <iJeffx> Does anyone here code C++?
[02:20] <ciphex> so im gonna go and see if i can't figure this out.... one little question profoX... is there a difference in hardware detection between the OEM install and the Text install methods?
[02:21] <patrick> is there a way to label a DPMS monitor is plugged in to the external dvi port so my laptop display doesnt show when i want to use the external monitor
[02:21] <linuchsan> kingpanga:what do you want to do?
[02:21] <profoX`> ciphex: I don't know that.. sorry
[02:21] <ciphex> cool
[02:21] <bwlang> zebedee: i'm not aware of any atapi cd or dvd devices that are not supported by the standard kernel...
[02:21] <ciphex> take it easy guys
[02:21] <xKriemhildx> Asgre,
[02:21] <rev11> so im at a stand still why this isnt workin
[02:21] <StoneNote> greg you have the server and console loaded? (there the mui and perlapi too if you want them)
[02:21] <profoX`> ciphex: never tried the OEM install :)
[02:21] <bwlang> zebedee: your first name's not zoey is it?
[02:21] <mind21_98> hi.
[02:21] <kingpanga>  linuchsan: mount -o remount,rw /dev/devicenode
[02:21] <sid> With rhythmbox for debian I just go to edit/plugins to turn on the Album Art plugin. With Ubuntu though, there is no plugins choice for rhythmbox
[02:22] <Asgre> sip xKriemhildx o.o
[02:22] <rev11> what can i try ?
[02:22] <mind21_98> so...I installed xgl and I'm getting this in my .xsession-errors
[02:22] <VladimirBG> I'm at a total loss how ubuntu doesn;t like fglrx and my ati x1300
[02:22] <mind21_98> compiz.real: dlsym: /usr/lib/libmenu.so: undefined symbol: getCompPluginInfo
[02:22] <mind21_98> compiz.real: Failed to lookup getCompPluginInfo in 'libmenu.so' plugin
[02:22] <sid> How do I get the rhythmbox album art python plugin with dapper?
[02:22] <kingpanga> cant find   /dev/devicenode
[02:22] <profoX`> rev11: oh? so when you use radeon instead of vesa you still have then no screen modes error?
[02:22] <rev11> yea then it says No screens at all
[02:22] <profoX`> mind21_98: #xgl or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:22] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: you missed a line
[02:22] <killown> how I do to install nautilus-media in apt-get?
[02:22] <mitrovarr> I can't get a zd1211 wireless device to work.  I compiled the drivers and install the module, and it seems to load fine, but it doesn't form an interface when I insert the device.
[02:22] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: you're probably looking for: mount -o remount,rw /dev/devicenode
[02:23] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: where devicenode is the drive in question (ie hda3)
[02:23] <zebedee> desktop cant see it swopped drives old 1 ok swapped back new one not ok ??
[02:23] <mind21_98> profoX`: thanks
[02:23] <profoX`> np
[02:23] <zebedee> bllang: nope ;-)
[02:23] <rev11> i feel like i get further with the vesa, but regardless its stil not running gnome
[02:24] <greg> StoneNote:huh
[02:24] <VladimirBG> profoX`, do you have suggestion how to try and resolve this issue
[02:24] <greg> i just installed vmplayer
[02:24] <BlueEagle> greg: congrats!
[02:24] <bwlang> zebedee: are you sure the drive is good? does it get recognized by the bios? is there anything about it in the log (sudo grep hdc /var/log/dmesg)?
[02:25] <greg> no whow do i use it?
[02:25] <StoneNote> greg I haven't played with vmplayer in a while.  I use the vmware server and console so I don't think I'll be a lot of help here. perhaps someone in #vmware could help out
[02:25] <profoX`> VladimirBG: not really ... never heard of the problem before ...
[02:25] <phiber_optic> greg, how do i add an iso image into the vmware?
[02:25] <profoX`> VladimirBG: and I'm no expert in videodrivers :(
[02:25] <greg> i dunoo i just installed the thing
[02:25] <BlueEagle> greg: Did you attempt to read the manual?
[02:25] <greg> im tryn to figure out the same thing
[02:25] <sid> How do I get the latest rhythmbox with Ubuntu dapper?
[02:25] <rev11> is there anything i can set it to for the lowest of low settings for any monirot
[02:25] <rev11> monitor
[02:26] <greg> i temporaily forgot how to read
[02:26] <StoneNote> sid apt-get install rhythmbox
[02:26] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: thanks
[02:26] <BlueEagle> greg: Then how do you now what I'm writing?
[02:26] <kingpanga> BlueEagle: done
[02:26] <BlueEagle> kingpanga: np. :)
[02:26] <profoX`> rev11: try the "radeon" driver again, and then do: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[02:26] <greg> i just rembered
[02:26] <sid> StoneNote: But 0.9.5 isn't in dapper.
[02:26] <BlueEagle> greg: :D
[02:26] <profoX`> rev11: ignore the wacom things, but check if there are other errors
[02:26] <kingpanga> linuchsan: thank u
 why did you not install vmware server.. it's free?
[02:27] <sid> StoneNote: 0.9.5 is in debian sid.
[02:27] <profoX`> rev11: after chooding the radeon driver, restart X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart    and after that do the cat command i gave you
[02:27] <greg> i didnt kno  which one to pick
[02:27] <zebedee> fair point i will boot from a win 98 disk and have a look in dos
[02:27] <mitrovarr> nevermind, fixed it myself, looks like I have a zd1211b device.  I didn't know the interface wouldn't show up in ifconfig (but would still be up-able)
[02:27] <StoneNote> sid, it will be eventually. I guess you can get it from http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/
[02:27] <greg> vm player was free
[02:27] <StoneNote> greg so is server
[02:28] <recon0> When trying to compile the SVN of blackshades, I get the compile error "undefined reference to `alutInit'". Can anybody help me with this?
[02:28] <zebedee> oh yeh its not showing in autodetect in bios
[02:28] <killown> where I found repository of nautilus-media?
[02:28] <profoX`> VladimirBG: did you also try this ? I then had to go into xorg.conf and comment out the Load int10 line.
[02:28] <profoX`> VladimirBG: its from that forum
[02:28] <greg> yea i kno
[02:28] <BlueEagle> !info nautilus-media
[02:28] <ubotu> Package nautilus-media does not exist in any distro I know
[02:28] <greg> i just randomly piced one
[02:29] <rev11> II loading extention mit screen saver
[02:29] <VladimirBG> profoX`, I'll try, thanks
[02:29] <rev11> no devices found
[02:29] <killown> ahhhh
[02:29] <BlueEagle> killown: nautilus-media doesn't appear to be a package in any official repo.
[02:29] <bwlang> zebedee: maybe it's a csel setting - try putting it on it's own cable as a "master" device
[02:29] <profoX`> VladimirBG: good luck -- i don't think it will help :(
[02:29] <VladimirBG> profoX`, btw, what is init10?
[02:29] <killown> ok
[02:29] <profoX`> but its worht a try
[02:29] <DigitalNinja> I'm playing around with an IPod on Xubuntu. Banshee doesn't see it and Gtkpod won't auto mount it. Does anyone have a fix for this?
[02:29] <BlueEagle> !xorgbug
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgbug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <profoX`> VladimirBG: int10 -- i don't know
[02:29] <greg> which server should i pick?
[02:29] <zebedee> it is :-)
[02:29] <BlueEagle> rev11: which version of xorg-core have you got?
[02:29] <killown> BlueEagle I want an video thumbnail for gnome  you know?
[02:29] <VladimirBG> profoX`, well thanks anyway
[02:30] <DigitalNinja> I just want things to work
[02:30] <zebedee> and master jumper
[02:30] <greg> nvm
[02:30] <BlueEagle> killown: Ehh.. Not really.
[02:30] <profoX`> VladimirBG: something to do with BIOS apparantly
[02:30] <recon0> Where can I find function alutInit()? i'm looking because I have an undefined ref to it.
[02:30] <rev11> how do i check and i think its 10.4
[02:30] <rev11> i downloaded the damn thing today
[02:31] <zebedee> google said the drive was a bit of a pig :-)
[02:31] <kern_malloc> I know it's not supported in this channel.  Not asking for support if it breaks, just want to know procedure :)  Ok if I want to upgrade to edgy eft, I do not need to actually get the Edgy iso (i.e. Knot 2 iso).  I can just change edgy in my apt-source and upgrade per usual correct?
[02:31] <HeathenDan> you can run synaptic and check which ver of xorg you have installed
[02:31] <profoX`> kern_malloc: yes, that should be possible
[02:31] <killown> anyone know any video thumbnail?
[02:31] <profoX`> kern_malloc: I upgraded one machine that way
[02:31] <BlueEagle> rev11: dpkg-query -s xserver-xorg-core|grep Version
[02:31] <kern_malloc> ok thanks profoX`
[02:31] <profoX`> kern_malloc: apt-get update and dist-upgrade and you should be fine
[02:31] <BlueEagle> rev11: it should give you Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[02:31] <kern_malloc> yup that's what i was thinking... ok cool
[02:32] <profoX`> kern_malloc: #ubuntu+1 is the eft channel btw
[02:32] <kern_malloc> yah i asked, just queit in there lol
[02:32] <BlueEagle> rev11: if it gives you Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 then that is causing your problem.
[02:32] <profoX`> lol
[02:32] <kern_malloc> s/queit/quiet
[02:32] <profoX`> kern_malloc: yea its boring =)
[02:32] <Homer> is it possible for a HDD jumper to actually fry?
[02:32] <rev11> it says 10.1
[02:32] <rev11> sheesh
[02:33] <BlueEagle> rev11: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <rev11> its right off the cd i downloaded
[02:33] <zebedee> homer: yep:-0
[02:33] <BlueEagle> rev11: might want to visit source-o-matic first tho :)
[02:33] <bwlang> Homer: if you put it in a skillet
[02:33] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell rev11 about easysource
[02:33] <profoX`> BlueEagle: that cant be the problem -- he has the problem on the install cd
[02:33] <killown> I want to install gnome 2.8 I can it in apt-get?
[02:33] <rev11> yea
[02:33] <rev11> its the install
[02:33] <MrMikey> Ok I need to do something
[02:33] <BlueEagle> profox`: Still an upgrade will hardly hurt him.
[02:33] <greg> killown: yes
[02:33] <siimo> killown: wtf what version of ubuntu is this
[02:34] <linuchsan> rev11: 10.1 ???
[02:34] <recon0> siimo: latest stable is dapper.
[02:34] <lgc> nalioth, you there?
[02:34] <exs> Is there any mobile phone apps I can use to synchornise my data? ( i have sony ericsson and I want to get the messages from it  + contacts )
[02:34] <profoX`> BlueEagle: yea but it doesn't make much sense to do a full upgrade on the live cd
[02:34] <jdmpike> how do I register my nick again?
[02:34] <jdmpike> I don't remember my password
[02:34] <rev11> ill do anything i just want to install this thung
[02:34] <rev11> thing
[02:34] <profoX`> jdmpike: /msg NickServ register passw
[02:34] <BlueEagle> profox`: Oh, I thought he had installed ubuntu. My bad
[02:34] <BlueEagle> rev11: did you try vga safe mode on the boot menu?
[02:34] <killown> siimo as I see version of ubuntu?
[02:34] <profoX`> BlueEagle: nah.. install/desktop cd :)
[02:35] <rev11> i did not.
[02:35] <profoX`> rev11: its worth a try
[02:35] <BlueEagle> rev11: I would try that if I were you.
[02:35] <greg> anyone wanna donate a sound card?
[02:35] <rev11> sure
[02:35] <killown> siimo, greg version 5.10
[02:35] <BlueEagle> rev11: good luck. :)
[02:35] <jdmpike> profoX' it is already registered, I registered it a long time ago, just can't remember
[02:35] <siimo> killown: and you want 2.8 gnome on it o_O ?
[02:35] <nalioth> lgc: howdy
[02:35] <profoX`> jdmpike: i don't think you can recover it
[02:35] <killown> siimo, yes
[02:35] <profoX`> or i dont know how
[02:35] <BlueEagle> rev11: press F4 and select safe mode on the boot menu
[02:35] <recon0> I installed libalut-dev, but my program still won't compile with the error "undefined reference to `alutInit'".
[02:35] <jdmpike> profoX', so my nick is dead?
[02:35] <|DrV> has anyone gotten wine to work on amd64?
[02:36] <killown> siimo, whats ultimate version ubuntu?
[02:36] <profoX`> isn't 2.8 old ?
[02:36] <BlueEagle> rev11: that should in most cases atleast get X up even if it's in a low resolution
[02:36] <greg> i have
[02:36] <greg> but years ago
[02:36] <|DrV> i tried the instructions from winehq but the repository was missing an index for amd64
[02:36] <lgc> nalioth, howdy. How is your mood today?
[02:36] <rev11> when i hit f4 all the resolutions come up
[02:36] <nalioth> lgc: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:36] <BlueEagle> rev11: also you might notice that some windows are too large for the screen. You can hold ALT and drag them with the mouse to move them around.
[02:36] <siimo> killown: 5.10 has 2.12 and latest ubuntu has 2.14.2
[02:36] <profoX`> jdmpike: I think so -- look for the freenode site on google or something
[02:36] <rev11> ok so select VGA then safe mode?
[02:36] <killown> siimo, then I want version 2.14.2
[02:36] <BlueEagle> rev11: seems like a plan
[02:36] <killown> how I get it?
[02:37] <rev11> here we go.
[02:37] <profoX`> killefiz: do you run breezy now? 5.10 ?
[02:37] <greg> killown: whats wrong?
[02:37] <profoX`> rev11: good luck
[02:37] <siimo> killown: but you have 5.10 ubuntu then you have to get 2.12 unless you upgrade ubuntu foirst
[02:37] <greg> why dont u try xfce or kde instead if gnome wont work?
[02:37] <killown> siimo ok
[02:37] <profoX`> yea upgrade ubuntu to dapper drake (6.06) and you'll automatically have gnome 2.14.2 -- thats easier
[02:37] <killown> thanks all
[02:38] <BlueEagle> killown: if it's not in backports then you can upgrade to 6.06 or compile it manually.
[02:38] <recon0> Does anybody know how I can tell a makefile to recognize "libalut.so"?
[02:38] <Telarian02> Hello all, can anyone tell me a quick fix to turn off touchpad tap to click function in Dapper?
[02:38] <rev11> sigh...
[02:38] <rev11> black screen
[02:38] <rev11> flashing light.
[02:39] <profoX`> rev11: flashing light..?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> rev11: laptop?
[02:39] <ladydoor> Telarian02: i think the existence of such a fix depends on what kind of touchpad you use
[02:39] <rev11> nope
[02:39] <rev11> monitor light
[02:39] <rev11> like when the video card doesnt send anything to the monitor
[02:39] <Telarian02> synaptics i guess? (newbie)
[02:39] <profoX`> rev11: err.. ok.. does alt+f1 work? and what is the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE
[02:39] <rev11> i can try another monitor
[02:39] <profoX`> if alt+f1 works
[02:40] <BlueEagle> rev11: or ctrl+alt+f1
[02:40] <profoX`> rev11: yea you can try that too but I don't think that'll work, atleast not for the no screens error
[02:40] <profoX`> BlueEagle: rev11: yea I meant ctrl+alt+f1
[02:40] <ladydoor> Telarian02: i hate to just send you away, but traditionally there have been a great number of threads regarding this issue on ubuntuforums.org. you might start by searching there :-)
[02:40] <rev11> ill have to reboot it first.
[02:40] <rev11> lets see.
[02:40] <zebedee> good luck
[02:41] <caseyomah> I'm having an issue, I have two boxes with Dapper Drake, one with a SB Audigy card (working fine) and one with a SB Live! (no sound) Any idea how to get it working?
[02:41] <linuchsan> jdmpike: "/nickserv sendpass"
[02:41] <rev11> i mean like, is this a common problem,
[02:41] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: sb live should be working OTB tbh
[02:41] <rev11> other linux things work
[02:41] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: have you got an integrated sound card on that box?
[02:41] <rev11> distros
[02:41] <jdmpike> linuchsan, no dice
[02:41] <nbjayme> hello all.  how do you tell kino to export only video (no audio)?
[02:42] <caseyomah> Yes, there is an OSS onboard and no way to disable.
[02:42] <Knelix> Can anyone here help me with xmame?
[02:42] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: then perhaps you're not using the right card.
[02:42] <phiber_optic> greg, where u able to add an iso?
[02:43] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: system->settings->sound
[02:43] <caseyomah> OSS doesn't install either, that's why I installed the SB Live! knowing Linux's compatibility with Creative cards.
[02:43] <rev11> when do i do ctrl alt f1
[02:43] <linuchsan> jdmpike: "/nickserv sendpass nick your mail address"
[02:43] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: at the bottom you'll se a "Default sound card" selector
[02:43] <greg> nope
[02:43] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: does it list any sound cards?
[02:43] <greg> its askinfor .vmx
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> caseyomah: I have never seen an onboard sound card that count not be disabled
[02:43] <phiber_optic> greg me too
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> could
[02:43] <caseyomah> It doesn't show up in Device Manager and mixer says Gstreamer no cards.
[02:44] <jdmpike> linuchsan, I get "Unknown command [sendpass] "
[02:44] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Did you look in systems->settings->sound ?
[02:44] <caseyomah> First one I've seen too, this is a Compaq Presario 5192.
[02:44] <profoX`> linuchsan: i dont think that works on freenode
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> caseyomah: IN rare cases I had to move a jumper on the mb
[02:44] <caseyomah> I didn't even bother looking at a hardware interrupt... that's probably it.
[02:45] <Zambezi> Nontopic, but a quick question. Cat5 or Cat6 networkcable for my homenetwork? Which one is the best?
[02:45] <rev11> the CD is goin nuts but the monirot isnt connecting
[02:45] <rev11> hmm
[02:45] <rev11> damnit
[02:45] <caseyomah> "Default sound card:" (Blank dropdown.
[02:45] <rashed> anyone there 2help me out
[02:45] <ladydoor> !anyone
[02:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:45] <foo> Hm, I installed ubuntu and it looks like it defaults to gnome. Is there any simple way to get fluxbox on here?
[02:46] <ladydoor> foo: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:46] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: ok then. Please open a terminal and type: lsmod|grep emu10k1
[02:46] <ladydoor> foo: (you may need to enable universe repositories)
[02:46] <foo> ladydoor: Hehe, yeah. Ok. I didn't know if ubuntu had some trick or something
[02:46] <tizwonder> ladydoor: dont you need xfce?
[02:46] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: it should return approx 15 lines
[02:46] <greg> how to i make a .vmx?
[02:46] <ladydoor> tizwonder: not to install fluxbox. fluxbox is its own wm
[02:46] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: if it returns no lines then the module isn't loaded.
[02:46] <rashed> i cant get my 2wire pcmcia wireless card working on ubuntu
[02:46] <tizwonder> ladydoor: ah its a standalone?
[02:46] <ladydoor> foo: :-). you just need to install it and then start if from the gdm
[02:46] <tizwonder> i didnt know that...
[02:46] <foo> ladydoor: ah, thanks.
[02:46] <ladydoor> tizwonder: yup. most window-managers are
[02:47] <caseyomah> No return, back to prompt, do I need to su first?
[02:47] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: also if it returns no lines try: lsmod|grep snd_page_alloc
[02:47] <tizwonder> ladydoor: so its just like installing kde... install it, end session, and it will be in menu to start?
[02:47] <ladydoor> foo: np
[02:47] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: if still no joy then type: sudo modprobe emu10k1
[02:47] <ladydoor> tizwonder: yup
[02:47] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: then again try: lsmod|grep emu10k1
[02:48] <caseyomah> I just plugged in a Logitech USB Headset (Playstation 2)...
[02:48] <greg> http://www.consolevision.com/members/dcgrendel/vmxform.html
[02:48] <greg> that what i do?
[02:48] <rashed> anyone help pls
[02:48] <rev11> ok new monitor
[02:48] <caseyomah> "FATAL: Module emu10k1 not found."
[02:48] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell rashed about wireless
[02:49] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: hmm..
[02:49] <caseyomah> BlueEagle: The Logitech works, and shows up in System/Preferance/Sound.
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: sudo modprobe emu10k1-snd
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[02:50] <BlueEagle> the last one
[02:50] <caseyomah> No return.
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: well let's try to get your sb live working, shall we?
[02:50] <caseyomah> That's the point.
[02:50] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: no return from lsmod|grep emu10k1
[02:50] <BlueEagle> ?
[02:50] <ubuntu> hello
[02:51] <phiber_optic> greg,  i found a way to do it
[02:51] <phiber_optic> :)
[02:51] <Sunderland> heeeeeeew
[02:51] <Sunderland> hey guyhs
[02:51] <Sunderland> guys
[02:51] <Sunderland> :D
[02:51] <greg> how?
[02:51] <Sunderland> ubuntu ownz :D
[02:51] <sris> is it possible to "tile" all your virtual desktops, like osx expos, or the firefoxplugin foxpose ( https://addons.mozilla.org/images/previews/viamatic_foxpose-3.jpg )
[02:51] <phiber_optic> did u already created the VA?
[02:51] <greg> no
[02:51] <greg> dunno how
[02:51] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: if there is lines returned please just say so, don't paste them all in here.
[02:51] <ubuntu> I'm installing ubuntu as we speak, I just recieved the LTS 6.06 cd in the mail today.  After I setup my partitions, it just went straight to "Installing system" without giving me options to choose which applications i wish to install.  Is this normal?
[02:51] <phiber_optic> query me greg
[02:52] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Yes, it is.
[02:52] <caseyomah>  grepping emu10k1 or snd-emu10k1 from a lsmod returns nothing.
[02:52] <ladydoor> ubuntu: yup
[02:52] <phiber_optic> how do i go to a different partition in a command line
[02:52] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: oh...
[02:52] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: is it mounted?
[02:52] <ubuntu> ok so i just choose which apps after it's installed?
[02:52] <ubuntu> via apt
[02:52] <ubuntu> ?
[02:52] <ladydoor> ubuntu: yeah
[02:52] <caseyomah> It seems like a hardware detection problem not a driver issue...
[02:52] <scunizi> ubuntu: via apt or synaptic
[02:52] <phiber_optic> yes
[02:53] <ubuntu> synaptic a front-end to apt?
[02:53] <phiber_optic> ladydoor,
[02:53] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: yes?
[02:53] <scunizi> ubuntu: yep
[02:53] <ubuntu> i used debian many moons ago... never used synaptic
[02:53] <ubuntu> ah ok
[02:53] <phiber_optic> ladydoor, yes its mounted
[02:53] <ubuntu> i'll check that out, thanks guys
[02:53] <ladydoor> ubuntu: you might like aptitude
[02:53] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: ok, then please try: lspci|grep audio
[02:53] <ubuntu> yah aptitude i'm familair with
[02:53] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: cd /path/to/mount/point
[02:53] <caseyomah> Unfortunately I can't verify that the BIOS sees the card, it's a junky BIOS.
[02:53] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: and you'll be there :-0
[02:53] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: it should return a line similar to: 0000:01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[02:53] <ladydoor> *:-)
[02:53] <zebedee> odd win 98 /dos finds it may flash the chip (in the am) see that helps !!  bye all
[02:54] <caseyomah> Once again, no return.
[02:54] <scunizi> ubuntu: What progs are you interested in?
[02:54] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: Oh?
[02:54] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: I see.
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> caseyomah: Using this compaq page it says you can disable onboard sound  http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&tool=prodinfoCategory&product=93128&dest_page=prodinfoCategory&docname=bph07110#N1003
[02:54] <phiber_optic> ladydoor, the thing is ubuntu mounted manually so i dont really know where is moutned and everything
[02:54] <profoX`> im gone
[02:54] <ubuntu> scunizi: typical, gimp, firefox, open office, irssi, something for mail.. I like thunderbird.
[02:54] <profoX`> bye guys
[02:54] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: i would check in /media
[02:54] <thao> hi there .
[02:54] <thao> can someone help me.
[02:54] <ladydoor> phiber_optic: (ls /media)
[02:54] <rev11> ubuntu sucks
[02:54] <caseyomah> Browsing...
[02:55] <rev11> its ruined my life.
[02:55] <phiber_optic> yes
[02:55] <phiber_optic> its there
[02:55] <phiber_optic> thanx
[02:55] <ladydoor> ubuntu: most of those are already installed
[02:55] <ubuntu> ah ok
[02:55] <ladydoor> ubuntu: *except thunderbird
[02:55] <scunizi> ubuntu: firefox, gimp, open office are already there... you won't need much to catch up with the rest of your list.
[02:55] <ormandj> is that us.archive.ubuntu.com mirror down? keep getting can't connect errors in aptitude, but my network is fine (can ping, etc)
[02:55] <thao> can someone recommend a burning tool that is not k3b
[02:55] <ladydoor> what a dramatic exit...
[02:55] <caseyomah> Totally different BIOS screen.
[02:55] <ubuntu> works for me
[02:55] <ladydoor> ormandj: a lot of people remove the us. from that deb
[02:56] <ormandj> ladydoor: thanks, i'll give it a try
[02:56] <Madpilot> thao, Gnome's file manager - Nautilus - works nicely for data burning
[02:56] <foo> ladydoor: Was it you who told me to put XTerm*fontSize:             20 in .Xdefaults if I want to change the font size in my xterm?
[02:56] <caseyomah> On a "standard" AMI BIOS (as shown) I know how to disable Sound Card.
[02:56] <thao> have u got a link to it, i can't seem to fire it up.
[02:56] <devilz> hi can someone tell me what ubuntu do i need to download to install it on my pc, i downloaded ubuntu-desktop and i cant install it i only can run ubuntu but cant install it
[02:56] <thao> Madpilot: have u got a link to it, i can't seem to fire it up.
[02:57] <caseyomah> ...I just want speakers. If we can get the OSS to work I'll be happy.
[02:57] <caseyomah> That shows up in Device Manager as unknown.
[02:57] <ladydoor> ormandj: sweet!
[02:57] <Madpilot> thansen, Places->Home Folder - or just stick a blank CD-R or DVD-R in your burner, you should get a popup
[02:57] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: please put the entire output of lspci to !pastebin
[02:57] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[02:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:57] <ladydoor> foo: hmmm, Xterm*fontSize         somenumber, yes
[02:58] <ladydoor> foo: wait
[02:58] <ladydoor> foo: it's actually Xterm*faceSize
[02:58] <thao> * Madpilot. .....does it allow burning of ISO?
[02:58] <caseyomah> No audio in it at all.
[02:58] <ladydoor> foo: *and without the capital X
[02:59] <foo> ladydoor: hmm. Not working
[02:59] <Madpilot> thao, to burn an ISO, stick a blank CD in, close the popup you get, then just find your ISO in the file manager, right-click on it, and choose Burn To Disc.
[02:59] <foo> ohh, so xterm*faceSize
[02:59] <foo> ladydoor: I'll try that, thanks
[02:59] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: well I am looking for unknown devices as well.
[02:59] <Dolda2000> A quick question: In Ubuntu, how do I get the system to reload my iptables config on startup?
[02:59] <ladydoor> foo: hmmmm....well, good luck
[02:59] <caseyomah> In pastebin.
[02:59] <caseyomah> For some reason it isn't showning unknowns...
[03:00] <detectiveinspekt> where the beta releases released before june?
[03:00] <DBO> Dolda2000, I use a firewall init script
[03:00] <foo> ladydoor: hm, no luck. Any other ideas?
[03:00] <caseyomah> Can I screencap with "Print Screen" key?
[03:00] <Advant> Where can I dwnload an ISO of the latest Efty Edge rls ?
[03:00] <Dolda2000> DBO, you mean you simply wrote it yourself?
[03:00] <DBO> Dolda2000, yeah
[03:00] <ormandj> hm, my ubuntu box can telnet to port 80 on us.archive.ubuntu.com and GET a response, but aptitude keeps claiming it can't
[03:01] <ladydoor> foo: well, what's your font line in .Xresources? also, are you doing xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources?
[03:01] <Dolda2000> Isn't there just some "standard" way, that just uses iptables-restore?
[03:01] <BlueEagle> caseyomah: I haven't asked but I just assumed: It is a PCI card and not an ISA card is it?
[03:01] <ormandj> standard apt-get is also saying connection failed
[03:01] <caseyomah> Right, PCI SB Live. emu10k1
[03:01] <foo> ladydoor: xTerm*faceSize:             20 .. and I'm just restarting x. hmm
[03:01] <ladydoor> foo: oh. well, the xrdb thing is easier, haha. and what's the faceName line?
[03:01] <sh4dox> hii