[11:18] <khermans> hairulfr, sudo gparted
[11:19] <moDumass> bidossessi, i think a  system update broke it, that seems to happen once in a while, usually in a few hours or days another comes out that fixes it
[11:19] <Sontax> hunchybunch can u help me on pm ?
[11:19] <moDumass> its the down time that kills me though
[11:19] <hairulfr> khermans: Cool cheers :D
[11:19] <khermans> hairulfr, np
[11:19] <hunchybunch> Sontax, I dunno, maybe you could also go into a safe-mode and get to restricted-manager?
[11:19] <Sontax> im in safe-moden ow
[11:19] <bidossessi> moDumass, if u say so; i don't know much about system management in ubuntu yet
[11:19] <nila> i am not able to  listen to sound on firefox when i use internet, but aurio settings are fine and working otherwise could u help pls
[11:20] <david919> khermans: http://imagebin.ca/view/M4jEW7.html
[11:20] <Sontax> i see some xorg.conf.1 .2 .3 etc
[11:20] <khermans> nila, that doesnt make sense!
[11:20] <Sontax> how do i change names ?
[11:20] <hairulfr> khermans: It's locked, uhm, how do I go about unlocking it?
[11:20] <khermans> nila, unless it has to do with pulseaudio
[11:20] <khermans> locked?
[11:20] <khermans> hairulfr, are you on an installed ubunut/
[11:20] <khermans> hairulfr, or inside the installer?
[11:20] <hunchybunch> Sontax, yes, those are previous ones - you could copy by cp xorg.conf.2 xorg.conf?
[11:21] <hairulfr> khermans: Well, it's has a closed padlock on it and not any option to resize, just greyed out. Installed ubuntu.
[11:21] <khermans> hairulfr, you need to do this on the livecd
[11:21] <nila> kher sorry for such a stupid Q, when i play youtube or any online streaming sites i am not getting sound but i can listen to songs from usb
[11:21] <Quicksilva> anyone know where to find some xorg.conf sample files.  maybe one thats set up with an ati card
[11:21] <khermans> hairulfr, so that your data is not moaunted
[11:21] <hairulfr> khermans: Ah, ok :) I'll do that then
[11:21] <Quicksilva> found one yesterday but or the life of me cant find it again :P
[11:21] <mattholimeau> compiz rules.
[11:22] <khermans> Quicksilva, /usr/share ?
[11:22] <Quicksilva> hmmm? :o
[11:22] <hunchybunch> Sontax, but if you did this by installing the nvidia driver by some other means other than the ubuntu way, it may not do you any good.
[11:22] <allobjects> Can someone tell my why I get a black screen when I try 'switch user' ?
[11:22] <Sontax> im on ubuntu now again :)
[11:22] <Quicksilva> is there a copy in there. will look now
[11:22] <Sontax> but my resolution isn;t good
[11:22] <Sontax> how do i fix that ?
[11:23] <david919> khermans: any ideas?
[11:23] <hunchybunch> screen resolution is under system/preferences
[11:23] <Sontax> ya but i cant do it higher than 1024
[11:23] <rudihawk> allobjects - have you waited for awhile when it goes black?
[11:23] <Sontax> my screen is 1280x800
[11:23] <rudihawk> maybe its loading
[11:23] <khermans> david919, i dont see your links?
[11:23] <hairulfr> which is the better bittorrent client? Using bittorrent now, but it seems very slow
[11:23] <abe> anybody somebody
[11:24] <khermans> hairulfr, rtorrent
[11:24] <david919> khermans: imagebin [dot] ca/view/M4jEW7 [dot] html
[11:24] <allobjects> rudihawk: yes, I then tried to loging ssh from another machine so yes a while
[11:24] <khelll> git clone http://code.macournoyer.com/git/thin.git
[11:24] <hairulfr> Sontax: You need to manually edit your xorg.conf and add the resolutions your monitor supports
[11:24] <Sontax> how do i set my resolution to 1280x800 ? i cant go higher than 1024x768 now
[11:24] <khelll> would this command work ?? git ??
[11:24] <PurpZeY> Can someone give me a hand with something, I think I need a symlink...I'm not entirely sure, I can explain what the goal is but I have no idea what te proper means are.
[11:24] <Quicksilva> khermans, i cant see anything in that directory?
[11:24] <hunchybunch> Sontax, and there isn't an option for that?  if not, you may want to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it.
[11:24] <bidossessi> hairulfr, are you into command line or gui? if gui, i'd suggest deluge
[11:24] <Sontax> what and where do i need to add it
[11:24] <nila> guys i am not able to listen to songs on saudio-vedio streming sites, i can use my audio for listening to songs from the hard disk, could u help pls
[11:25] <bullgard4> /etc/default/acpi-support includes the entry: "# Add services to this list to stop them before suspend and restart them in the resume process: STOP_SERVICES='networking'." What 'networking' is meant here? Is it the file /etc/init.d/networking?
[11:25] <hairulfr> bidossessi: I'll try both :) Thanks
[11:25] <khermans> Sontax, sudo sed -i 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <hunchybunch> Sontax, but maybe your video card cannot change to that resolution - i dont know anything about nvidia
[11:25] <bidossessi> hairulfr, get the .deb from their website
[11:25] <david919> khermans: i take it you saw that?
[11:25] <khermans> david919, send me a link
[11:25] <Sontax> khermans my screen is 1280x800 it's an laptop
[11:26] <Accord> hairulfr: I use deluge too
[11:26] <Sontax> do i need to change 1280x1024 to 1280x800 ?
[11:26] <allobjects> rudihawk: when it goes black if I try <ctrl> <alt> <backspace> nothing happens
[11:26] <hairulfr> Sontax:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-410727.html
[11:26] <khermans> Sontax, then replace 1280x1024 with 1280x800 for widescreen
[11:26] <elliot_> is GAIM able to show display pictures
[11:26] <khermans> elliot_, pidgin
[11:27] <allobjects> rudihawk: if I login with ssh and stop and start GDM nothing happens on native screen (still black)
[11:27] <elliot_> thanks
[11:27] <PurpZeY> I am trying to set something up...A screen saver...The screensaver pulls mpegs from a directory, which are downloaded as it's running...The windows version uses bittorrent, so it can update faster...I've installed a wine program that will download the torrents for me, but I want to point the screensaver to look at the D/L directory for the wine program or vice-versa
[11:27] <bidossessi> i don't think you can run a gui through ssh
[11:27] <khermans> bidossessi, ssh -Y
[11:27] <bidossessi> well, i just learned something
[11:27] <bidossessi> :)
[11:27] <ServerSide> can someone enlight me: glxgears: I got 5000 fps with 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run', i install the new one: 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run' -> I got 2000fps ... Well i reinstalled the 'old' and know i've 3000fps, help :(
[11:27] <khermans> bidossessi, yup :-)
[11:27] <allobjects> rudihawk: only reboot seems to clear it
[11:28] <david919> khermans: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4083067#post4083067
[11:28] <khermans> ServerSide, sudo restricted-manager
[11:28] <nila> guys i am not able to listen to songs on saudio-vedio streming sites, i can use my audio for listening to songs from the hard disk, could u help pls
[11:28] <khermans> ServerSide, use the packaged drivers
[11:28] <nila> kherman could u help pls
[11:29] <bidossessi> nila, do you have flash9? i assume you r talking about youtube...
[11:29] <khermans> nila, sudo aptitude install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:30] <DocWiki> hi
[11:30] <bidossessi> khermans, i love the way you dispatch bits of knowledge around :)
[11:30] <khermans> !hi | DocWiki
[11:30] <ubotu> DocWiki: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:30] <david919> khermans: you got it that time? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4083067#post4083067
[11:30] <khermans> bidossessi, hehe just an oldtime ubunut user since warty myself..
[11:30] <PurpZeY> Can someone help me out setting up a symlink?
[11:30] <teckfatt> khermans: good job mate
[11:31] <bidossessi> i tend to use mc for all my console file management
[11:31] <khermans> david919, got it -- do you use any third-party repos?
[11:32] <khermans> PurpZeY, ln -s <linked> <linker?
[11:32] <david919> khermans: accept wine? if thats 3rd party then thats it, and i uninstalled that 1 week ago when i got crossover
[11:32] <PurpZeY> khermans: If I do, will the program looking into the director that is the linked....look at the linker?
[11:32] <khermans> david919, ok
[11:32] <bauer_> how do i set up mail from crontab to root
[11:32] <bidossessi> PurpZeY, yes
[11:32] <khermans> david919, did you enable -proposed or -backports ?
[11:32] <david919> khermans: possibly
[11:32] <hunchybunch> PurpZeY, ln -s /where/it/is mysimlink
[11:32] <khermans> david919, go check
[11:32] <david919> ok
[11:33] <khermans> david919, :-)
[11:33] <PurpZeY> bidossessi: Will it ignore the contents of the original link?
[11:33] <khermans> PurpZeY, with ln -sf, yes
[11:33] <Sontax> thanks guys it is working now again
[11:33] <khermans> Sontax, nice
[11:33] <Sontax> but now i want to add my extra monitor
[11:33] <Sontax> how do i do that ?
[11:33] <david919> khermans: checked only gutsy security and gutsy updates
[11:34] <khermans> Sontax, hahah System -> Admin -> Screen and Graphics
[11:34] <bidossessi> loool
[11:34] <hunchybunch> Sontax, i use xrandr to push it to my tv
[11:34] <khelll> am trying git command but it doesnt work
[11:34] <khermans> david919, ok try now enabling -security -proposed -backports
[11:34] <david919> khermans: rogerroger
[11:34] <khermans> david919, if it is not fixed in a newer kernel, we have to try something else
[11:35] <hunchybunch> Sontax, but i have an old ati card - mileage may differ
[11:35] <david919> khermans: just a few days ago i realised i had 4 different unnecessary java versions installed and i uninstalled them but i had the font problem before that
[11:35] <khermans> david919, dont forget -updates
[11:35] <david919> ok
[11:35] <khermans> david919, hrmm
[11:35] <Sontax> again it works crap now
[11:36] <david919> it could have been localepurge?
[11:36] <Sontax> my normal screen is now 640,480 and wont go higher
[11:36] <khermans> Sontax, do both screen support that rez?
[11:36] <ere4si> I installed a cli ubuntu using the minimal cd from here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD - and booting after install went past the login - cron then rc.local were started so I couldn't log in - how can I get a cli only ubuntu?
[11:36] <nila> kherman ]
[11:36] <khermans> 1280x 800?
[11:36] <Sontax> no
[11:36] <khermans> Sontax, well, then you need manual configuring
[11:36] <nila> i was using youtube fine til date
[11:36] <Sontax> main is 1280 and and other is 1024
[11:36] <nila> but suddely i am not able to listen anything
[11:37] <nila> would vlc help
[11:37] <nila> ?
[11:37] <khermans> Sontax, you need to setup two screens each with their own settings
[11:37] <PurpZeY> khermans: so the following brian@brian-laptop:~/.sheep$ ln -sf ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/electricsheep-cache            will link this dir so any program looking to .sheep will see ~/.wine/drive_c....etc ?
[11:37] <khermans> nila, you said streaming, not flash
[11:37] <WNxCryptic> When I download PHP to install it into Apache2, does it matter where I download it to?
[11:37] <nila> yes
[11:37] <Sontax> awww that sucks nvm i will work that on windows than
[11:37] <nila> not able to listen to soun
[11:37] <nila> d
[11:38] <khermans> PurpZeY, man ln
[11:38] <Sascha|> I need some kind of alarm on this computer that goes off if I don't like move the mouse in a certain amount of time
[11:38] <nila> not able to listen to sound at all on internet
[11:38] <nila> its crazy i know
[11:38] <khermans> WNxCryptic, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php
[11:38] <nila> ?
[11:38] <khermans> saschahl, xscreensaver :-)
[11:38] <WNxCryptic> khermans: that will install the most recent version of php (5.2.5 ?)
[11:38] <khermans> nila, flash or streaming/
[11:39] <khermans> WNxCryptic, the most recent packaged version ,yes
[11:39] <nila> both kherman
[11:39] <khermans> WNxCryptic, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5
[11:39] <david919> khermans: i enabled propsed and backports nothing on the update screen
[11:39] <nila> i cant use internet at all to listen to audio, happning with both
[11:39] <khermans> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[11:39] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2 module). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.2 (gutsy), package size 2482 kB, installed size 5620 kB
[11:40] <khermans> nila, told you vlc
[11:40] <khermans> david919, sudo aptitude update ?
[11:40] <khermans> david919, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:40] <nila> let me check
[11:40] <david919> ok
[11:40] <WNxCryptic> kerhemns: PHP 5 has problems with apache 2 if its installed as a threaded MPM, do you know if aptitude will install it as a threaded MPM or a prefork MPM?
[11:40] <khermans> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc | nila
[11:40] <ubotu> nila: mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 144 kB
[11:41] <david919> khermans: ok ill update then i guess? 47 megs of crap
[11:41] <khermans> WNxCryptic, i am unsure of that
[11:41] <nila> let me do that thanks, but would it help if i was fine without that till yesterday, it happnened all of a sudden
[11:41] <khermans> WNxCryptic, it tells you
[11:41] <WNxCryptic> david919: not having your distro up to date is problematic in itself.
[11:41] <hunchybunch> nila, or maybe mozilla-mplayer?
[11:41] <PurpZeY> khermans: Ok, I read man. I made a small error in the first ln -sf....It appears that the first symlink I made is still there, notwithstanding my second one...how do i remove it?
[11:41] <khermans> WNxCryptic, aptitude show libapache2-mod-php5
[11:42] <descent> Hello. Can you please help with such a little problem: i am trying out Linux Mint, and here the default compiz config differs a liitle from the usual ubuntu's one. When I press ctrl-alt-d the windows do not minimize, they move to the corners of the screen, and i don't really like this effect. I know i saw it in ubuntu earlier. Is there a way to make them really minimize?I am trying out Linux Mint, and here the default compiz config differs a liitle
[11:42] <descent> s ctrl-alt-d the windows do not minimize, they move to the corners of the screen, and i don't really like this effect. I know i saw it in ubuntu earlier. Is there a way to make them really minimize?
[11:42] <khermans> PurpZeY, rm
[11:42] <hunchybunch> PurpZeY, rm first.symlink
[11:42] <PurpZeY> khermans: Ok, thanks.
[11:42] <WNxCryptic> khermans: is it possible to open another window of the console via SSH?
[11:42] <WNxCryptic> (like switching desktops)
[11:42] <david919> WNxCryptic: yeh
[11:42] <khermans> ~screen | WNxCryptic
[11:42] <khermans> screen | WNxCryptic
[11:42] <khermans> !screen | WNxCryptic
[11:42] <ubotu> WNxCryptic: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[11:42] <khermans> jeez!
[11:42] <david919> khermans ok its uptodate now
[11:43] <khermans> david919, try reboot and lets see!
[11:43] <PurpZeY> It will view the contents of that folder, correct?
[11:43] <khermans> pick new kernel
[11:43] <david919> khermans ok hehe moment of truth i guess, so many times i have done this similar thing and it hasnt rebooted
[11:44] <eckesicle> Hey, is there a good test of Ubuntu vs Fedora somewhere?
[11:44] <descent> ubuntu is just better
[11:45] <WNxCryptic> eckesicle: depends on what distro you want / what you're past experience is with Fedora or Ubuntu
[11:45] <descent> you don't need to read tests for that )
[11:45] <khermans> eckesicle, its all linux
[11:45] <descent> surer
[11:45] <toni_studiante> never tryed fedora
[11:45] <WNxCryptic> khermans: is there a simple way to look at what "apt-get install NAMEHERE" and/or "aptitude install NAMEHERE" will install, depending on what name I put in?
[11:45] <khermans> eckesicle, there are millions of comparisons
[11:45] <WNxCryptic> IE: GNU screen is called "screen" and I want to easily find out what
[11:46] <WNxCryptic> "sudo apt-get install screen" is going to do.
[11:46] <khermans> WNxCryptic, aptitude install NAMEHERE --simulate
[11:46] <eckesicle> WNxCryptic, well I haven't run Fedora since it was called Red Hat. But I have alot of experience with nix. I'd just like to test around see if i like it.
[11:46] <ascent> What can he the reason that ubuntu by default ships with evolution and firefox, and not thunderbird and firefox? For it's PIM capabilities?
[11:46] <descent> does anyone know why Ubuntu crashes when i put the latest Nvidia drivers onthe latest kernel update?
[11:46] <bauer_> where do output from crontab go
[11:47] <khermans> eckesicle, i think you will like it -- i have used every distro
[11:47] <WNxCryptic> eckesicle: if its just to play around with, why not spend some time with both? Just build a dev box and install one...spend some time on it, and then format/install the other distro?
[11:47] <WNxCryptic> Obviously everyone here prefers Ubuntu..but that's beside the point :)
[11:47] <eckesicle> but before i decide what to use i'd like to know what the general consensus is. How it compares to ubuntu. Looking for easy to use for my granny
[11:47] <khermans> eckesicle, gentoo was a long time fave of mine until ubuntu
[11:47] <david919> khermans: ok i booted into the latest kernel i will check if the font problem remains
[11:47] <khermans> david919, cool
[11:47] <eckesicle> WNxCryptic, I am on ubuntu myself now.
[11:47] <WNxCryptic> kerhams: gentoo is still my favorite by far.
[11:47] <khermans> WNxCryptic, i like gentoo as well
[11:47] <khermans> WNxCryptic, but i dont like using gentoo when i need to get something done quikly
[11:48] <toni_studiante> when i do nmap behind my router i get nothing...what i should set?
[11:48] <descent> many peple say that LinuxMint is better, cause it is ubuntu, "how it should have been"
[11:48] <WNxCryptic> kerhams: its just way too difficult to unpackage and install the way it "should" be done.
[11:48] <eckesicle> khermans, yes i like gentoo but it is for a new computer we bought for our grandmother so it has to be easy. Which sortof rules out gentoo and others
[11:48] <khermans> toni_studiante, ??
[11:48] <toni_studiante> khermans, scanning ip from the net i get no result even if they have :)
[11:48] <khermans> descent, no way it has the support that Canonical backs Ubuntu with
[11:48] <WNxCryptic> eckesicle: Fedora is a little more GUI friendly...but if this is for your Grandmother, why not go with a rediculously simple distro like Mandrake?
[11:49] <khermans> toni_studiante, dont be a pen tester behind a firewall
[11:49] <khermans> :-P
[11:49] <david919> khermans: the slowness issue is solved
[11:49] <PurpZeY> This is the last I will ask on this question...I just want to verify I did this correctly...If I used the ln command properly, when a program goes to access the contents of the linked folder, it will look at the contents of the provided folder, correct?
[11:49] <WNxCryptic> khermans: is there a significant difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[11:49] <julian_> hi, how can i find out if i have a seperate boot partition?
[11:49] <undenounced> !mount
[11:49] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:49] <khermans> david919, so we fixed it?
[11:49] <eckesicle> WNxCryptic, because mandrake is shit. (mandriva)
[11:49] <toni_studiante> khermans, i should check but what i need to open?
[11:49] <undenounced> !diskmounter
[11:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[11:49] <khermans> PurpZeY, yes
[11:49] <david919> khermans: well the slowness is fixed but the font problem remains =( well i guess half the problem solved is better than nothing
[11:50] <Arelis> Hi, all. I'm switching to Windows.. sorry, i've had enough of Ubuntu, and it's tendency to make me work all day. Can i convert my /home partition into an NTFS partition?
[11:50] <descent> khermans, i personally use both. Used just Ubuntu before it refused to load with the latest videodrivers after a system update
[11:50] <eckesicle> WNxCryptic, (but mostly because I hate the logotype)
[11:50] <khermans> WNxCryptic, i prefer aptitude -- vi vs emacs
[11:50] <WNxCryptic> eckesicle: well...its a fine line. Do you want something out-of-the-box friendly, or a OS that you actually have reasonable control over.
[11:50] <WNxCryptic> Arelis: no
[11:50] <khermans> david919, what is this "font" problem?
[11:50] <PurpZeY> khermans: Ok, I see the linked folder within the other folder...I'll cross my fingers...thanks for the help...I try to help around here in turn as much as I can...=)
[11:50] <khermans> david919, you mean in the terminal?
[11:50] <david919> yeh
[11:50] <WNxCryptic> Arelis: NTFS and Fat32/Reiser are completely non-related formats.
[11:50] <david919> khermans: yeh
[11:50] <khermans> david919, try this -- create a new user and login -- see if they have it too
[11:50] <shivy> morning
[11:50] <david919> khermans: ok
[11:50] <khermans> david919, if not, it is something from you home dir
[11:51] <shivy> where can I find my wireless USB lan adapter once I plugged it in ?
[11:51] <robdeman> hi all.. I am trying to restore a Trac .db file from a newver V0.10.4 to an older 0.9.6 version... do I need to convert the trac.db back to an older version? any help here?
[11:51] <ere4si> google is getting me nowhere - 4 cli only installs and each starts services after the login - so I can't access the system - how do I get around this?
[11:51] <khermans> shinygerbil, lsusb
[11:51] <PurpZeY> shivy: lsusb
[11:51] <shivy> Do I need special software to receive networks on it ?
[11:51] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: what program are you using? SSH??
[11:51] <PurpZeY> shivy: It depends what it is. . .
[11:52] <khermans> rodpod, what is Trac -- wiki ?
[11:52] <khermans> rodpod, source repo?
[11:52] <eckesicle> WNxCryptic, also she does not speak english well so it all needs to be localized
[11:52] <shivy> its a Z-com wireless access point
[11:52] <khermans> shivy, dmesg
[11:52] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, haven't got an accessable install yet so haven't got as far as ssh
[11:53] <khermans> ere4si, ubuntu server
[11:53] <khermans> ?
[11:53] <lonejack> hi, somebody know how to check inadyn (if it is working or not)?
[11:53] <WNxCryptic> eckesicle: eckesicle jesus...the "best" choice is probably going to be Ubuntu..but I mean, unless she's 20 times more computer savvy than my parents are (let alone my grandparents) she's going to have trouble methinks.
[11:53] <nila> kherman i installed vlc
[11:53] <khermans> nila, not vlc
[11:53] <nila> still not working
[11:53] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: what's causing so many problems with installation? (sorry, I might not have gotten the whole story)
[11:53] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, that and ubuntu minimal - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD - do the same - and can't find a solution...
[11:54] <khermans> nila, i told you mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:54] <robdeman> How can I install the latest stable TRAC on ubuntu 6.10?
[11:54] <khermans> robdeman, sudo aptitude install trac
[11:54] <nila> kherman it happenend when i installed volume monitor
[11:54] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, services start after the login prompt - so I can't login
[11:54] <khermans> nila, then remove it
[11:54] <nila> before that working fine
[11:54] <david919> khermans: well i cant use the command that causes it on other uses because it says no interfaces ect ect, i would have to set up networking and all that crap itd take probably about an hr can we just assume its a problem for both users
[11:54] <khermans> nila, purge
[11:54] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: the mini packages can be problematic, you said you have tried an installation of, say... Ubuntu server 7.1 from the full image version??
[11:55] <nila> what do u mean by ourge i a msorry i am not a computer techie
[11:55] <robdeman> khermans: that gives the v0.9.x series on Ubuntu 6.10 ... where I need Trac 0.10.xx
[11:55] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, tried minimal and alternate
[11:55] <khermans> david919, i am wondering if your shell gets messed up on loing
[11:55] <khermans> david919, creating a new user should not affect networking dude
[11:55] <khermans> david919, adduser foo
[11:55] <khermans> david919, logout, login
[11:55] <david919> i just did it and i couldnt get internet
[11:55] <WNxCryptic> ere4si sounds like a bad install (I JUST finished an install of Gutsy Gibbon and out-of-the-box w/ SSH installed I can SSH in with putty)
[11:56] <david919> i looked in networking and eth0 wasnt there
[11:56] <khermans> david919, did you go into NetworkManager
[11:56] <david919> yep
[11:56] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: but I can't say that with certainty, sorry mate.
[11:56] <david919> and also metacity didnt load for some reason o.O
[11:56] <khermans> robdeman, gutsy has 0.10
[11:56] <WNxCryptic> khermans might have better insight.
[11:56] <khermans> robdeman, if you want a "hack" install method -- you could install the gutsy package version
[11:56] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, two diff cd's - md5 checks ok...
[11:56] <khermans> david919, thats weird
[11:57] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: right
[11:57] <robdeman> khermans: Gutsy has trac 0.10..?
[11:57] <david919> khermans: not really to me i spent months getting drivers working i wouldnt be supprised
[11:57] <khermans> robdeman, appears so
[11:57] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: so what all do you have installed thus far on the server? (SSH, Apache, etc.)
[11:57] <khermans> !info trac | robdeman
[11:57] <ubotu> robdeman: trac: Enhanced wiki and issue tracking system for software development projects. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.4-2 (gutsy), package size 378 kB, installed size 2080 kB
[11:57] <andi5> robdeman: trac 0.10.4-2
[11:57] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, killed the services in rc2 and rebooted then new ones start after login
[11:57] <david919> also only this user can access kismet.confs for some obsurd reason ive tried before
[11:57] <robdeman> khermans: right Gutsy = 7.10 .. you are correct. Im on I think Dapper (6.10) which has tra c0.9.x
[11:57] <khermans> david919, lol
[11:57] <khermans> david919, but drivers are not user-initiated
[11:58] <WNxCryptic> khermans: aptitude install screen --simulate only gives me the space and number of packages it would install...not the source or what the program "screen" is or does
[11:58] <robdeman> my problem: I need to downgrade to 0.9.x
[11:58] <robdeman> our sysadmin will only allow Ubuntu 6.10
[11:58] <khermans> david919, is there a kismet group ?
[11:58] <david919> khermans: ive tried and tried to modprobe bcm43xx on other Accounts it just doesnt work D:
[11:58] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, can't login normal user so haven't installed more than cli ubuntu
[11:58] <robdeman> we developped using 7.10 trac
[11:58] <khermans> robdeman, then install from source
[11:58] <robdeman> khermans: how hard will that be?
[11:58] <Crom> ciao
[11:58] <khermans> david919, only root can modprobe
[11:58] <PurpZeY> david919: I've had limited experience with those BCM chipsets, they are a bear
[11:59] <khermans> robdeman, for most people , not hard
[11:59] <david919> yeh ive got it working fine PurpZeY but having some font problems now
[11:59] <khermans> robdeman, first time is interesting
[11:59] <PurpZeY> david919: Font problems...unique.
[11:59] <robdeman> khermans: mm
[11:59] <david919> PurpZeY: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4083067#post4083067
[11:59] <robdeman> khermsn: hopefully not too many dependancy stuff going wromg then
[11:59] <khermans> david919, you need to add the new user to the Admin group
[11:59] <david919> ok i will try again khermans
[11:59] <khermans> you can do it in the gui
[11:59] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: when you installed from the 7.1 server image (the full 600 MB one) and you had the option of installing some of the server packages (like SSH) from the cd, did you use that?
[12:00] <khermans> robdeman, that could be an issue
[12:00] <khermans> robdeman, and why we all use repos :-)
[12:00] <WNxCryptic>  khermans: aptitude install screen --simulate only gives me the space and number of packages it would install...not the source or what the program "screen" is or does
[12:00] <khermans> WNxCryptic, apt-get source screen
[12:00] <Masqy> hi all, I am still not sure whether packet injection works or not.  When I try "ifconfig wifi0 hw ether AA:...:BD" , I get an error SIOSCIFHWADDR. I use ipw3945 on Lenovo N100, with the ipwraw driver that comes with bt3
[12:00] <Masqy> Any suggestions?
[12:00] <khermans> WNxCryptic, aptitude show screen
[12:00] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, no - want only nfs for headless home server on old comp
[12:00] <khermans> WNxCryptic, apt-cache policy screen
[12:00] <PurpZeY> david919: This is perfectly normal, your machine is entering the matrix. You took the wrong pill.
[12:01] <david919> khermans: the only command that causes it so far is the sudo aireplay-ng command nothing else cauese it
[12:01] <david919> PurpZeY: haha when i first saw it i was like crap i hacked myself... again
[12:01] <khermans> david919, command causes what?
[12:01] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: you want this as a local file server? are you intending to access it via FTP or what protocol?
[12:01] <khermans> david919, type reset in the terminal
[12:01] <david919> khermans: i dont know how else to explain it, the jargon assed fonts eg  ⎽┤␍⎺ ▒␋⎼␊⎻┌▒≤-┼± -1 0 -␊ ⎽610205 -▒ 00:0E:9B:43:###
[12:02] <khermans> david919, reset
[12:02] <david919> and the terminal tab i initated the command in gets completly corrupted
[12:02] <david919> k
[12:02] <khermans> david919, that happens because of output fromm program
[12:02] <david919> khermans: reset fixes it
[12:02] <ere4si> WNxCryptic, nfs - ssh to control it
[12:02] <khermans> david919, you can force a weird eror like that many wats
[12:02] <david919> but every time i run the command i get the same problem
[12:02] <khermans> david919, cat /dev/urandom
[12:02] <khermans> david919, :-)
[12:02] <toni_studiante> khermans, i do it sometimes
[12:02] <david919> khermans while thats pretty and all =p
[12:03] <PurpZeY> khermans: Thanks for helping everyone....I do a mediocre job sometimes...But, you are doing a lot now, so, thanks from the community.
[12:03] <toni_studiante> but what does cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp ?
[12:03] <khermans> david919, thats an issue witht he program,. not ubuntu -- and it has nothing to do with fonts
[12:03] <andi5> khermans: man terminal survives that :)
[12:03] <andi5> my, even
[12:03] <david919> khermans: it was working perfectly until 1 week ago
[12:03] <khermans> PurpZeY, np dude
[12:03] <david919> reinstall i guess
[12:03] <PurpZeY> david919: Look at what changes you've made in the last week
[12:03] <WNxCryptic> ere4si: log in locally on the system to setup the SSH and then setup NFS from there. If you can't get the NFS services running without logging in, its a configuration issue or its not possible w/ NFS>
[12:04] <khermans> PurpZeY, maybe i will bump into you guys at the next Ubuntu Live
[12:04] <khermans> i spoke there last year
[12:04] <david919> PurpZeY: thats near impossible ive done so much crap but nothing i can think would have caused conflicts in other programs
[12:04] <khermans> Kristian Erik Hermansen
[12:04] <WNxCryptic> if - even after SSH is setup - the services are not starting unless you login...you have a configuration / installation issue with how you're putting SSH and NFS on the server.
[12:04] <khermans> david919, the program?
[12:04] <david919> reinstalling the airtools ect will maybe help?
[12:04] <khermans> WNxCryptic, how about /etc/rc.local ?
[12:05] <khermans> david919, it sounds like that program is broken
[12:05] <khermans> david919, are you ahcking wifi :-P
[12:05] <PurpZeY> khermans: At least I don't feel like an idiot for not knowing as much...=)
[12:05] <ere4si> WNxCryptic,  can't log in normal user as services start after the login prompt - have to hard reboot into single user to kill services but then other ones start after normal user prompt - very frustrating...
[12:05] <david919> khermans: yeah but my wifi and i was so successfull until right a week ago
[12:06] <khermans> PurpZeY, i just love the ubunut community
[12:06] <khermans> PurpZeY, everyone is nice!
[12:06] <khermans> PurpZeY, unlike #openbsd or sometimes #gentoo
[12:06] <Jowi> ere4si, what is your runlevel?
[12:06] <david919> or #solaris
[12:07] <david919> i will refrain from swearing
[12:07] <ere4si> Jowi: ubuntu defaults to rc2
[12:07] <PurpZeY> khermans: I feel quite similarly....I am amazed at the community itself...I mean, just....Instead of having to call some 3rd world country for help you ask a guy who is like you and he wants to help...like you or me...or whatever...it's crazy.....It's amazing.
[12:07] <neopsyche> Hi, Xaw TV is working with picture .. but how do i get sound?
[12:07] <Jowi> ere4si, I know. which one does your "runlevel" report.
[12:07] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[12:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:07] <khermans> PurpZeY, :-)
[12:08] <PurpZeY> PriceChild: Point taken.
[12:08] <asc> I seem to have developed a problem in which the contents of /home/user are displayed on my desktop, instead of the contents of /home/user/Desktop. Does anybody know why this might be, or how how to fix it?
[12:08] <david919> khermans: well reinstalling the program doesn't help, im going to cry my only amusment at airports
[12:08] <khermans> neopsyche, try mythtv ?
[12:08] <ere4si> Jowi: rc2 - kill the late starting services there then new ones start and stop me logging in
[12:08] <neopsyche> I dont really need myth tv as there is only one channel input
[12:08] <khermans> david919, is this from repos?
[12:09] <david919> khermans: yeh
[12:09] <khermans> david919, you might file a bug
[12:09] <khermans> david919, or check lunchpad?
[12:09] <david919> we know how that will end
[12:09] <khermans> david919, do you have a launchpad account?
[12:09] <andi5> lunchbag?
[12:09] <khermans> lol
[12:09] <david919> khermans: no i don't =(
[12:09] <khermans> !launchpad | david919
[12:09] <ubotu> david919: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:09] <bektim> Hi, pals!  This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:10] <khermans> bektim, isnt flash built in for opera?
[12:10] <PurpZeY> khermans: Presumably you know that flash is currently pfft.
[12:10] <x_zeuss> hello
[12:10] <x_zeuss> need some help pls
[12:10] <Smegzor> How do I remove items from the Places menu?  I googled but I'm still clueless.
[12:10] <x_zeuss> whenever i try to burn a cd image *.iso with brasero it writes up to 45% then error
[12:10] <khermans> !ask | x_zeuss
[12:10] <ubotu> x_zeuss: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:10] <x_zeuss>  this is with every iso i try
[12:11] <WNxCryptic> khermans: I have vsftpd server setup on a local development server. When I connect / login I'm fine, but when I try to upload a file I get a permission denied error.
[12:11] <x_zeuss> i know the cd-rw is ok because is i write with it from win it's ok
[12:11] <PurpZeY> x_zeuss: Have you tried different software or slower burn speeds?
[12:11] <x_zeuss> are there any special setting i must do?
[12:11] <khermans> x_zeuss, try k3b ?
[12:11] <x_zeuss> PurpZeY: yes, i tried with k3bb also
[12:11] <khermans> x_zeuss, or --> wodim foo.iso
[12:11] <Grammaticus> Does anyone in here have a dial-up connextion?
[12:11] <khermans> x_zeuss, could be bad media
[12:11] <Grammaticus> *connexion
[12:11] <x_zeuss> same thing with k3b
[12:12] <x_zeuss> tried 3 differend of blank cds
[12:12] <khermans> WNxCryptic, check dir permissions?
[12:12] <PurpZeY> x_zeuss: Maybe it's the ISO
[12:12] <mia> Hello, do I need a d in order for the "wireless lamp" on my laptop to be lit?
[12:12] <mia> d = driver
[12:12] <x_zeuss> i tried 3 different isos
[12:12] <khermans> x_zeuss, try wodim
[12:12] <PurpZeY> mia: Just for the light?
[12:12] <mia> PurpZeY: yeah
[12:12] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: have you edited the .conf
[12:12] <khermans> x_zeuss, or burner is broken?
[12:12] <x_zeuss> arklinux, pclinusos and ubuntu server
[12:12] <asc> Grammaticus: I used to...
[12:13] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: I edited it to deny anonymous logins, but I don't remember changing much else.
[12:13] <mia> PurpZeY: it can't find any wireless interfaces when I ifconfig, but I can't even get the lamp to be lit, even though I have the swithc on "on"
[12:13] <x_zeuss> khermans: i use it in win and it's ok, no prob
[12:13] <PurpZeY> mia: Some of those lights and things are controlled by acpi, or some small driver that's not worth bothering with....if it's just the light...I have a similar issue with a light on mine.
[12:13] <Grammaticus> asc, Do you know anything about connecting to Ubuntu with dial-up? It seems rather difficult...
[12:13] <Smegzor> Nevermind.  Figured it out
[12:13] <x_zeuss> khermans:  but i don't wanna use win
[12:13] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: the vsftpd doccumentation leaves something to be desired for newbs like me.
[12:13] <PurpZeY> mia: OH! Wait a second, the card doesn't work at all, it's not just the light
[12:13] <th0r> WNxCryptic there is quite a bit of info about vsftp on the web...try google
[12:13] <asc> Grammaticus: Connecting to ubuntu, or connecting ubuntu to the internet?
[12:13] <khermans> x_zeuss, i already told you about wodim
[12:14] <giffel3> i need help with ubuntu 7.10 installer on a system with sata disks: grub-install fails, fatal error. Tried advanced-settings, (hd0), (hd0,4), /dev/sda, /dev/sda5. No luck. Tried find in grub at the terminal, it cant find e.g. stage1. Any ideas?
[12:14] <Grammaticus> asc, Connecting 'through' ubuntu rather -- to the internet.
[12:14] <x_zeuss> khermans: is that another burning soft?
[12:14] <th0r> WNxCryptic and as I recall, it pretty much works out of the box, you don't need to change much in the config
[12:14] <asc> Grammaticus: Is your modem internal?
[12:14] <khermans> giffel3, sudo grub
[12:14] <x_zeuss> khermans: what about gnomebaker?
[12:14] <x_zeuss> khermans: is that ok?
[12:14] <khermans> x_zeuss, might work
[12:14] <mia> PurpZeY: right, but I figured I should get the lamp to be lit before trying to get Linux to find a card at all
[12:14] <giffel3> khermans, did sudo grub
[12:14] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: So it much likely to prevent you write the remote directory.
[12:14] <khermans> x_zeuss, wodim is command line
[12:14] <Grammaticus> asc, Yes -- it is on the mother-board. In fact, I am using a notebook PC.
[12:14] <PurpZeY> mia: Have you tried lspci just to see if it's there?
[12:15] <PurpZeY> mia: what card?
[12:15] <x_zeuss> khermans: i'll try wodim
[12:15] <khermans> giffel3, find /grub/stage1
[12:15] <WNxCryptic> th0r: yes..that's what I thought too but I'm having permissions problems
[12:15] <DoXiD> t :p
[12:15] <giffel3> Error 15: File not found
[12:15] <giffel3> Error 15: File not found
[12:15] <giffel3> Error 15: File not found
[12:15] <mia> PurpZeY: yes it's there: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:15] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: what is much likely to prevent me from writing the remote dir?
[12:15] <giffel3> oops, sorry
[12:15] <PurpZeY> mia: run iwconfig
[12:16] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: The default .conf file
[12:16] <asc> Grammaticus: That probable means that it's a winmodem, and that you will have to use ndiswrapper if you want to use it. I have never succeeded in getting ndiswrapper to work, but you might find instructions googling 'ubuntu [model of your modem]'
[12:16] <khermans> giffel3, do you know where your /boot is?
[12:16] <khermans> giffel3, root (hd0,0)
[12:16] <khermans> giffel3, setup (hd0)
[12:16] <khermans> giffel3, quit
[12:16] <giffel3> /dev/sda5
[12:16] <mia> PurpZeY: I only have eth0 (whch I use now) and lo, both with "no wireless extensions"
[12:16] <khermans> giffel3, that is non-typical
[12:17] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: i just dont see anything that stands out as something in that .conf (I'm looking at it now) that would enable writing to the remote directory.
[12:17] <PurpZeY> mia: and ifconfig same deal? but it's in lspci ?
[12:17] <khermans> giffel3, i think you need /boot in primary partition
[12:17] <andi5> giffel3: that is (hd0,4)
[12:17] <giffel3> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[12:17] <khermans> giffel3, but i have been wrong before
[12:17] <Grammaticus> asc, do you think my chances are slim? I feel as if I'd rather not waste my time if it's going to be frustration, etc.
[12:17] <andi5> khermans: i never needed that, /boot is a logical one for me
[12:17] <giffel3> sda is my primary partition....
[12:17] <mia> PurpZeY: yeah
[12:17] <khermans> giffel3, then use andi5 grub command
[12:17] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: doh, might of found it. Is there a command to restart vsftpd without rebooting the box?
[12:17] <khermans> giffel3, root (hd0,4)
[12:17] <Grammaticus> asc, I haven't used Linux in 2 years -- I used to run RedHat and Mandrake -- never with dial-up. Therefore, my skill is not great.
[12:17] <EduardoSal> so pet
[12:18] <giffel3> yes, i tried hd0,3 also
[12:18] <PurpZeY> mia: Hmmm...Have you looked at network manager?
[12:18] <giffel3> ehm sorrz hd0,4
[12:18] <andi5> giffel3: sda is a complete hard disk, ... sda1-sda4 are the primary ones, if existant
[12:18] <khermans> giffel3, then you have issues
[12:18] <asc> Grammaticus: It's probably worth googling to see if there are Easy Newbie Directions. If there aren't, frustration is a given.
[12:18] <mia> mia: well, no but I don't see how it could do anything without an interface
[12:18] <mia> @ PurpZeY
[12:18] <zhan_zr> zhan_zr: yes
[12:18] <WNxCryptic> anyone? is there a way to stop all server services and restart them all after changes have been made to a .conf without rebooting the box?
[12:18] <sorush20> hi
[12:18] <giffel3> i have a winxp partition, after that an extended partition with ext3 and swap
[12:19] <sorush20> this channel is really busy
[12:19] <giffel3> the ext3 one is sda5
[12:19] <giffel3> hm
[12:19] <khermans> giffel3, fdisk -l
[12:19] <siloko>  hi I have just noticed that all the directories in my /root have execute privileges for everyone - is that the default?
[12:19] <Grammaticus> asc, All right -- thank you. I'll try
[12:19] <andi5> WNxCryptic: which .conf and why all services?
[12:19] <PurpZeY> mia: Yeah, I'm thinking you need an acpi or something....There is a step missing and it's weird b/c intel cards usually work oob
[12:19] <asc> Good luck. :p
[12:19] <Grammaticus> Haha -- it is much needed.
[12:19] <giffel3> Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[12:19] <giffel3> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
[12:19] <giffel3> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:19] <giffel3> Disk identifier: 0x9e709e70
[12:19] <giffel3>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:19] <giffel3> /dev/sda1   *           1       36363   292085766    7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:19] <giffel3> /dev/sda2           36364       38913    20482875    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[12:19] <giffel3> /dev/sda5           36364       38658    18434556    b  W95 FAT32
[12:19] <giffel3> /dev/sda6           38659       38913     2048256   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[12:19] <PurpZeY> !paste | giffel3
[12:19] <ubotu> giffel3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:19] <giffel3> Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[12:19] <giffel3> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[12:19] <giffel3> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:19] <mia> PurpZeY: yeah indeed, I've run two diffretne intel wireless cards ootb fine before
[12:19] <PurpZeY> !op | FLOOD
[12:19] <ubotu> FLOOD: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[12:19] <giffel3> Disk identifier: 0x2c73511f
[12:19] <giffel3>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:19] <giffel3> /dev/sdb1               1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:19] <giffel3> Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[12:20] <bazhang> giffel3: stop please
[12:20] <giffel3> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[12:20] <giffel3> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:20] <sorush20> is there paid support for ubuntu... for example 365 pounds sterling for a year
[12:20] <giffel3> Disk identifier: 0x1a6d7804
[12:20] <giffel3>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:20] <giffel3> /dev/sdc1               1       60801   488384001    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[12:20] <mia> PurpZeY: I'll just try to reboot and make sure that the wireless toggle is on "on" from the start
[12:20] <khermans> Sorcererb0b, yes
[12:20] <Xintruder> hi
[12:20] <bazhang> sorush20: sure
[12:20] <WNxCryptic> GIFFEL3: STOP FLOODING THE sErVER
[12:20] <Sorcererb0b> hmm?
[12:20] <mia> PurpZeY: thanks for the help so far
[12:20] <Seveas> chanserv lag :(
[12:20] <PurpZeY> mia: Oh mia, yes.
[12:20] <sorush20> bazhang where
[12:20] <Mez> yeah, chanserv lag :D
[12:20] <WNxCryptic> jeeze..thanks Seveas
[12:20] <Mez> hehe
[12:20] <WNxCryptic> anyways
[12:20] <Sorcererb0b> khermans: you called?
[12:20] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: You can just kill the vsftpd, or go to the gui service panel to operate.
[12:20] <vaisto> !multimedia
[12:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:20] <PurpZeY> mia: I didn't realize that was an issue at all.  It doesn't work at all
[12:20] <max_> hello
[12:20] <khermans> Sorcererb0b, dont think so
[12:21] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: how can I just kill / restart vsftpd? I'm in a CLI
[12:21] <bazhang> sorush20: just a moment--let me check www.google.com
[12:21] <EduardoSal> parle à gens ami
 Sorcererb0b, yes <-- ??
[12:21] <khermans> heh o whoops
[12:21] <PurpZeY> !fr
[12:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:21] <andi5> WNxCryptic: /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart  (not sure about the filename)
[12:21] <khermans> meant for another dude :-)
[12:21] <Sorcererb0b> ah, cool :)
[12:21] <andi5> WNxCryptic: sorry, .... sudo /etc/...
[12:21] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic:  ps -a
[12:21] <robdeman> hi all experts here... can I remotelt (ssh) upgrade my Ubuntu 6.10 server to the latest 7.x ? I have a server with no GUI (6.10-SERVER)
[12:21] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: get the pid of vsftd
[12:21] <khermans> robdeman, it is ricky, but yes
[12:22] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic:  then kill it
[12:22] <Sorcererb0b> robdeman: yes
[12:22] <andi5> khermans: why tricky?
[12:22] <WNxCryptic> Gah!
[12:22] <robdeman> khermans: hmm ok how would I do this? any downsides? its too hard now
[12:22] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid sorush20
[12:22] <WNxCryptic> 553: Permission Denied
[12:22] <WNxCryptic> stil
[12:22] <zhan_zr> add the sudo
[12:22] <taaz-gutsy> hi
[12:22] <max_> I'm having some problems in X11, for some reason or other, the font in the titlebars of windows is about 8 times as large as it should be, causing very tall title bars
[12:22] <robdeman> I have too many 7.xxx stuff that needs to run on the new server which oddly enough has an older Ubuntu version. So uograding seems better
[12:22] <max_> what do you guys think this could be?
[12:23] <khermans> robdeman, ssh then --> sudo sed "s/edgy/gusty/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:23] <andi5> max_: system > settings > fonts... is there a mistake?
[12:23] <khermans> robdeman, you need -i for sed changes
[12:23] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: If you haven't the right. add sudo before your command line to kill it.
[12:23] <andi5> robdeman: sudo sed -i ... may help as well :)
[12:23] <khermans> andi5, if you reboot and it fails like netowring driver, yer stuck
[12:23] <robdeman> what is SED changes?
[12:23] <taaz-gutsy> do someone has got the keyboard MX5000 of logitech?
[12:24] <khermans> robdeman, i didnt want him to do it unless he is sure, so left off -i
[12:24] <sofbored> hello. Is that possible to alias a script in my ~/bin. It seems it is, but I get weird errors
[12:24] <Sorcererb0b> have you guys seen that comic? "make me a sandwich" "...no" "...sudo make me a sandwich" "ok"
[12:24] <andi5> khermans: sure, i thought there is something particular to ubuntu updates
[12:24] <robdeman> will my apache config etc will stay intact?
[12:24] <Sorcererb0b> its an xkcd
[12:24] <Seveas> Sorcererb0b, yes, 2 years ago :)
[12:24] <khermans> robdeman, yes, but it may askyou during upgrade
[12:24] <Sorcererb0b> it was funny then, and its funny now :D
[12:24] <Seveas> true
[12:24] <khermans> "sudo make me a sandwich"
[12:24] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: I can stop/restart the vsftpd fine..but when I try to upload a file via FTP I'm getting that "553: Permission Denied" error
[12:24] <sas171> hi, how-to specify the port for the irc server in gnome x-chat? If I try <servername>:<port> I get "uknown host" error
[12:24] <robdeman> imap / dovecot these things stay allright aswell?
[12:24] <robdeman> procmail?
[12:25] <andi5> khermans: bash: sudo make me a sandwich: command not found
[12:25] <botfreaker> hi
[12:25] <khermans> robdeman, it will ask you during update
[12:25] <Xintruder> hi
[12:25] <max_> andi, they are all set to the default 10p. font
[12:25] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic:  have you edit the .conf file properly ?
[12:25] <robdeman> khermans: ok...
[12:25] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: I thought so, but perhaps I'm missing something
[12:25] <andi5> max_: does it help to change them back and forth?
[12:26] <max_> let me try that
[12:26] <hypn0> sas171: try #xchat
[12:26] <khermans> a cool Gnome easter egg is -> ALT-F2 "free the fish"
[12:26] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr: "local_enable=YES"    "write_enable=YES"
[12:26] <sas171> hypn0: ok, thx
[12:26] <andi5> coool :-D
[12:26] <max_> no, changing the fonts only makes the title font proportionately larger or smaller but does not cure the gigantism :D
[12:26] <bazhang> sorush20: that what you were looking for?
[12:27] <andi5> and thanks for the fish
[12:27] <Xintruder> how can enable the fireeffect with compiz, where when I close i program it burns up..?
[12:27] <robdeman> allright... I made a backup of all crucial apache mysql etc configs... upgrading to 7 now
[12:27] <khermans> andi5, thanks for _all_ the fish ?
[12:27] <khermans> hehe
[12:27] <andi5> khermans: maybe, i did not read it in english :)
[12:27] <Sorcererb0b> I found the open office easter egg today where the "format cells" dialog in the spreadsheet program gives the example for time as 13:37
[12:27] <bazhang> Xintruder: #compiz-fusion or check the keybindings for that plugin
[12:27] <khermans> andi5, you should go to CCC in germany
[12:28] <max_> andi, what do you think could cause this, I have the same problem in the GDM login screen, the font is too large so only a small portion of the letter shapes are displayed in the text box when you type your login/pass
[12:28] <robdeman> upgrade done??
[12:28] <andi5> khermans: why that?
[12:28] <mia> PurpZeY: nope, no luck :(
[12:28] <robdeman> how can I tell what the current version of Ubuntu is?
[12:28] <khermans> robdeman, no way it is already done
[12:28] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: Oh, I forgot the detail. And I am not on my ftp sever. So I can't give you the correct configuration now.
[12:28] <PurpZeY> mia: Has it worked before?
[12:28] <khermans> robdeman, cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:28] <khermans> robdeman, you need sed -i
[12:28] <robdeman> khermans: I think im still on Ubuntu Linux 6.10
[12:28] <robdeman> kermans: what is ed -i ?
[12:28] <khermans> make sure you used -i
[12:28] <robdeman> sed -i
[12:29] <khermans> robdeman, in the upgrade command i gave you
[12:29] <robdeman> khermansL: oh it only downloaded now?
[12:29] <robdeman> I add it to the commandline?
[12:29] <khermans> robdeman, ssh then --> sudo sed -i "s/edgy/gusty/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:29] <robdeman> "This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers."
[12:30] <mia> PurpZeY: yes
[12:30] <khermans> robdeman, you type wrong
[12:30] <PurpZeY> mia: What model is it?
[12:30] <andi5> robdeman: did you upgrade base-files already?
[12:30] <max_> only normal cow*
[12:30] <slipttees> ubuntu work native up 4GB ?
[12:30] <PurpZeY> mia: What computer?
[12:30] <robdeman> I just performed "sudo sed -i "s/edgy/gusty/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:30] <mia> PurpZeY: z53j asus
[12:30] <B-rabbit> hi
[12:30] <khermans> andi5, does egdy have do-release-upgrade ?
[12:30] <robdeman> andi5: I have no idea?
[12:30] <robdeman> when I did 'sudo sed -i "s/edgy/gusty/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade' --> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:31] <andi5> khermans: i have no clue
[12:31] <khermans> robdeman, you can only run that sed -i command once dude
[12:31] <robdeman> khermans: ehrm
[12:31] <robdeman> kermans: so what now?
[12:31] <khermans> robdeman, make sure all instances of "edgy" are chnaged to "gutsy" in sources.list
[12:32] <PurpZeY> mia: As far as I can read there is nothing wrong with connectivity on that model, in fact, what I read suggests it works fine
[12:32] <khermans> robdeman, if you accidentally ran it twice, mae sure you dont have things like "gutsygutsy"
[12:32] <andi5> khermans: hm.... are you sure edgy->gutsy is safe without edgy->feisty first?
[12:32] <PurpZeY> mia: So, somehow something is missing
[12:32] <glads> hey guys - ive just done a fresh install of ubuntu (had sabayon on here before) and when its loading grub it just displays "GRUB" and nothing else
[12:32] <mia> PurpZeY: seems so :(
[12:32] <robdeman> khermans: it says gutsy now
[12:32] <khermans> andi5, i am not saying anything -- but i have jumped releases many times
[12:32] <khermans> andi5, even from debian -> ubunut
[12:32] <PurpZeY> mia: still nothing in ifconfig and iwconfig?
[12:33] <robdeman> khermans: so it downloaded like 98MBs or something.. but whats next?
[12:33] <andi5> khermans: yes, so you know your way...
[12:33] <khermans> robdeman, there shouldbe more than 98 MB
[12:33] <nucther> hy all
[12:33] <mia> PurpZeY: nope
[12:33] <robdeman> khermans: mm I did 'sudo sed "s/edgy/gusty/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'
[12:33] <robdeman> then I added the -i
[12:34] <robdeman> there it went wrong
[12:34] <khermans> robdeman, thatsfine
[12:34] <khermans> as long as it says gutsy
[12:34] <robdeman> khermans: how come its not upgrading then?
[12:34] <khermans> robdeman, past bin your sources.list
[12:34] <PurpZeY> mia: It seems like there is some small step you need, but I am exhausted and not as knowledgable as I'd like to be on a good day
[12:35] <robdeman> http://pastebin.com/m38489b
[12:35] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr, I can upload to my home directory, but not the www directory...how can I check to see if it is a permissions problem?
[12:35] <mia> PurpZeY: :(.. ok what kind of small step?
[12:35] <robdeman> oh hey.. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gusty/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:35] <glads> hey guys - ive just done a fresh install of ubuntu (had sabayon on here before) and when its loading grub it just displays "GRUB" and nothing else
[12:36] <robdeman> and a whole bunch of thiose
[12:36] <khermans> robdeman, looks fine to me
[12:36] <WNxCryptic> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-01-03 18:54 apache2-default
[12:36] <khermans> robdeman, oh i forget this is not desktop -- maybe 98 MB is fine
[12:36] <PurpZeY> mia: I am thinking some sort of modprobe...I really don't know, ask in the channel, there are a lot of knowledgeable people around
[12:36] <WNxCryptic> Is what "ls -l" returns
[12:36] <robdeman> khermans: yeah
[12:36] <khermans> robdeman, just do it
[12:36] <khermans> robdeman, hehe cool
[12:36] <robdeman> khermans: what do I type now then
[12:36] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: As I remember, you should change the change-dir permission in the .conf file.
[12:36] <khermans> robdeman, i forget it is merely server
[12:36] <khermans> robdeman, sudo aptitude update
[12:36] <mia> PurpZeY: what should  I ask for?
[12:36] <khermans> robdeman, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:37] <PurpZeY> mia: or dmesg. . .I really don't want to just stab in the dark....Just say that your network card is identified by lspci but not showing up in iwconfig
[12:37] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr, what is "umask"
[12:37] <khermans> mia, you need a driver?
[12:37] <khermans> mia, sudo lshw
[12:37] <ljsmithx> I'm about to install IceWM, would I still be able to use my gnome apps? and still use compiz?
[12:37] <robdeman> that update gives a whole lot of 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:37] <khermans> !umask | WNxCryptic
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <PurpZeY> khermans: it  doesn't seem that way, it's an intel onboard card. . .
[12:38] <khermans> PurpZeY, wifi ?
[12:38] <PurpZeY> khermans: I believe so
[12:38] <ljsmithx> anyone?
[12:38] <glads> hey guys - ive just done a fresh install of ubuntu (had sabayon on here before) and when its loading grub it just displays "GRUB" and nothing else
[12:38] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: Permission relative prosperity of files
[12:38] <khermans> robdeman, does it do the upgrade though?
[12:38] <mia> khermans: and now?
[12:38] <robdeman> khermans: let me try another mirror
[12:39] <khermans> mia, you should pipe that to less and look for your device and see if the driver is loaded
[12:39] <khermans> robdeman, remove the us
[12:39] <robdeman> khermans: im going to use http://pastebin.com/me696063
[12:39] <WNxCryptic> zhan_zr, uh..what? I'm not sure what that is, can you elaborate? (and I didn't find anything about "change-dir" in the .conf)
[12:39] <khermans> robdeman, what is .il ?
[12:39] <khermans> robdeman, just remove the us.
[12:40] <robdeman> khermans: israel .. just here temporarily
[12:40] <robdeman> khermans: yeah ok
[12:40] <Niteye> why does the 6.06 TLS version get so much longer support than 7.10? what does TLS mean?
[12:40] <khermans> robdeman, oh lol
[12:40] <khermans> robdeman, maybe isreal doesnt want you to get those files :-)
[12:40] <khermans> Niteye, for servers
[12:40] <yushan> 有人在么？
[12:40] <Xavier_Z> Niteye: LTS stands for Long Term Support
[12:40] <zhan_zr> WNxCryptic: Please read the document pages. I can't remember exactly. As I am not on my server.
[12:40] <khermans> !lts | Niteye
[12:40] <ubotu> Niteye: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:40] <Niteye> so should i get 7.10 or 6.06 for my homeserver?
[12:41] <khermans> Niteye, if you can wait -- hardy 8.04 is in april
[12:41] <Niteye> the install probably wont last 3 years
[12:41] <zhan_zr> yushan: Few people understand chinese here
[12:41] <andi5> any idea why killall gnome-panel (kill the fish) does not bring my panels back? :-(
[12:41] <khermans> Niteye, then gutsy 7.10
[12:41] <Quicksilva> does anyone know how to get HWD working in ubuntu. i followed this guide but compiling failed..
[12:41] <Niteye> okay thx
[12:41] <Quicksilva> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55950
[12:41] <Xavier_Z> yushan: can you read english?
[12:41] <mia> khermans: How do I see if it is loaded?
[12:41] <khermans> zhan_zr, i know some chinese :-)
[12:41] <zhan_zr> yushan:And don't ask to ask
[12:41] <zhan_zr> khermans: You are one of the few I speak
[12:42] <Xavier_Z> I know chinese as well
[12:42] <mia> khermans:  It says UNCLAIMED
[12:42] <zhan_zr> Xavier_Z: Oh I see.
[12:42] <khermans> yushan was just asking if anyone knows chinese
[12:43] <zhan_zr> khermans: And then he left before getting the answer
[12:43] <aditya_pratama> # surabaya
[12:43] <khermans> zhan_zr, someone said "do you know english" and then he left
[12:43] <khermans> zhan_zr, is there a chinese support chan for ubuntu
[12:43] <khermans> ?
[12:43] <zhan_zr> khermans: yes
[12:43] <PurpZeY> !ch
[12:43] <khermans> mia, you need a driver then
[12:43] <zhan_zr> khermans: Actually two.
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <khermans> zhan_zr, should have sen him there
[12:44] <mia> khermans: yes.. I think I do
[12:44] <zhan_zr> khermans: One for regulator chinese, one for simply
[12:44] <khermans> mia, what pc/laptop is this?
[12:44] <khermans> or model of nic
[12:44] <khermans> chipset
[12:44] <zhan_zr> khermans: I don't go there often. No impression
[12:44] <WNxCryptic> khermans: is there a simple simple way to install asp.net support for my web-server (aptitude install phpthingy_youtoldme_earlier worked awesome)
[12:44] <PurpZeY> khermans: intel chipset
[12:44] <mia> khermans: intel
[12:45] <jetscreamer> !mono
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <WNxCryptic> jetscreamer: I've heard of mono
[12:45] <jetscreamer> oops wrong channel
[12:45] <jetscreamer> mono is .net-ish
[12:45] <WNxCryptic> jetscreamer: oh...that's a bit ironic..I think mono is what I found for asp.net support on a linux server
 rumour has it, mono is a community initiative to develop an open source, Cross platform version of the Microsoft.NET development platform. http://www.go-mono.com/ or the kissing disease, mononucleosis
[12:46] <khermans> WNxCryptic, dude thats a M$ technology
[12:46] <khermans> WNxCryptic, yeah and mono is not up to snuff
[12:47] <WNxCryptic> khermans: how bad is mono?
[12:47] <B-rabbit> Q: what is the default file system for ubuntu?
[12:47] <khermans> WNxCryptic, not bad -- just behind in features and releases
[12:47] <khermans> B-rabbit, ext3
[12:47] <PurpZeY> ext3
[12:47] <WNxCryptic> khermans: but stable?
[12:47] <B-rabbit> tnx
[12:47] <khermans> WNxCryptic, it is stable
[12:47] <WNxCryptic> cool..guess it'll do for now then.
[12:47] <khermans> WNxCryptic, sudo aptitude install mono
[12:48] <WNxCryptic> hehe..yep, already had it typed
[12:48] <Xplicit> i messed  my wireles module (bcm43xx) how can i reinstall the version in the repositories?
[12:48] <khermans> WNxCryptic, but config with apache is not auotmatically setup with ubunut
[12:48] <WNxCryptic> :( 28 megs.
[12:48] <WNxCryptic> Noooooooo
[12:48] <khermans> WNxCryptic, you need to figure it out
[12:48] <WNxCryptic> Joy.
[12:48] <WNxCryptic> You can tell I'm so happy right now
[12:48] <khermans> WNxCryptic, :-)
[12:48] <WNxCryptic> PHP is so simple.
[12:48] <khermans> WNxCryptic, dont use microshet
[12:48] <khermans> it
[12:48] <WNxCryptic> Easy to config and EVERYTHING
[12:48] <pawan> hi
[12:48] <khermans> WNxCryptic,  i fell in love with Django personally
[12:49] <khermans> WNxCryptic, php < django
[12:49] <WNxCryptic> khermans: never heard of it..but I'm a small-time web developer though
[12:49] <khermans> !hi | pawan
[12:49] <ubotu> pawan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:49] <WNxCryptic> php is weak compared to asp.net...even I can see that
[12:49] <pramz> does complexity equal power ?
[12:49] <WNxCryptic> khermans: after I have screen installed, how do I switch from one to another in CLI?
[12:49] <khermans> pramz, no simplicity
[12:50] <WNxCryptic> khermans: not in web-developing
[12:50] <pramz> exactly :)
[12:50] <khermans> WNxCryptic, CTRL-A, D
[12:50] <khermans> WNxCryptic, screen -ls
[12:50] <WNxCryptic> khermans: if simplicity were power, HTML wouldn't be obsolete.
[12:50] <khermans> WNxCryptic, screen -r
[12:50] <khermans> WNxCryptic, man screen
[12:50] <PurpZeY> HTML is obsolete?
[12:50] <PurpZeY> WTF
[12:50] <slipttees> Карлос Рене Пиньейру
[12:50] <PurpZeY> !ru
[12:50] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:50] <slipttees> ?
[12:50] <pramz> WNxCryptic, not really, getting the right tool for the job which is simple enough is what is needed.
[12:50] <sysKin> hi. I need to install x64 ubuntu but I have an 8800 video card, so it just dies. of course. if I get current daily "hardy" dvd, will it work?
[12:50] <|Z_E_R_O|> ola, can u tell me a recover data program for ubuntu? thanks
[12:50] <khermans> slipttees, oboldyeni!
[12:50] <WNxCryptic> pramz: of course..I'm not going to use PHP to output static text.
[12:51] <khermans> slipttees, ya nim noga pimimaya pa ruski
[12:51] <WNxCryptic> pramz: there's just limitations of PHP, just like there are limitations to HTML.
[12:51] <jetscreamer> !ru
[12:51] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:51] <slipttees> khamael, sorry i'm brasilian
[12:51] <WNxCryptic> mmm
[12:51] <slipttees> ops
[12:51] <WNxCryptic> Russian is cool
[12:51] <PurpZeY> !br
[12:51] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[12:51] <jetscreamer> !br
[12:51] <pramz> WNxCryptic, i never said php has no limitations, just that asp.net is not necessarily better than php
[12:51] <slipttees> khermans, sorry i'm brasilian
[12:51] <B-rabbit> which file system is good for gaming in linux? ntfs, fat or ext3
[12:51] <khermans> |Z_E_R_O|, foremost
[12:51] <slipttees> كارلوس رينيه بينهيرو
[12:52] <Enselic> mia: hej :)
[12:52] <|Z_E_R_O|> thank your khermans
[12:52] <PurpZeY> B-rabbit: It won't matter what the deal is for gaming....Whatever file system won't affect gaming
[12:52] <Enselic> mia: forgot that I was here
[12:52] <khermans> |Z_E_R_O|, sudo aptitude install foremost
[12:52] <jetscreamer> sysKin: use the text installer then install the nvidia package
[12:52] <WNxCryptic> pramz: well...no language is "better" than another. But ASP.net is more extensive in its capabilities...
[12:52] <zhan_zr> B-rabbit: all
[12:52] <WNxCryptic> anyways, I'm off IRC for the moment.
[12:52] <WNxCryptic> I'll fix my FTP probs later.
[12:52] <Xintruder> السلام عليكم
[12:52] <B-rabbit> i c
[12:52] <mia> Enselic: ok
[12:52] <PriceChild> !en | Xintruder
[12:52] <ubotu> Xintruder: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:52] <bazhang> !alternate | sysKin
[12:53] <ubotu> sysKin: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[12:53] <slipttees>
[12:53] <slipttees> ubuntu 리눅스
[12:53] <PriceChild> !en | slipttees
[12:53] <ubotu> slipttees: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:53] <pramz> WNxCryptic, asp.net is also restrictive which I do not like, personally I prefer python/django
[12:53] <Milos_SD> How can I fix this:
[12:53] <Milos_SD> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[12:53] <Milos_SD> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[12:53] <Milos_SD>         LANGUAGE = (unset),
[12:53] <Milos_SD>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[12:53] <Milos_SD>         LC_TIME = "sr_CS.UTF-8",
[12:53] <Milos_SD>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[12:53] <Milos_SD>     are supported and installed on your system.
[12:53] <Milos_SD> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[12:53] <slipttees> floody :S
[12:53] <Milos_SD> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[12:53] <sysKin> jetscreamer: ok thanks, can you just tell me how to get to text installer without getting yet another cd (my internet quota is against me)
[12:53] <PriceChild> gah
[12:53] <jetscreamer> way to miss
[12:53] <khermans> Milos_SD, it should be fixed after upgrade and reboot if you are updating
[12:54] <Milos_SD> my system is up to date
[12:54] <Milos_SD> :)
[12:54] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'finger banner'? See  http://www.kernel.org/kdist/finger_banner
[12:54] <bazhang> sysKin: you can have the cd's shipped to you if that is your concern; www.shipit.com
[12:54] <Milos_SD> my broather changed Language to en_GB
[12:54] <khermans> bullgard4, sounds like fun
[12:55] <Milos_SD> we changed it back to en_US
[12:55] <sysKin> bazhang: no other way? ok I'll download it....
[12:55] <khermans> sysKin, shipit.ubuntu.com
[12:55] <bullgard4> khermans: hm
[12:55] <jetscreamer> sysKin: i don't know. sysKin you can use knoppix cheat codes at boot (google knoppix cheat codes) try xvrefresh xhrefresh and xmodule= ... you'll have to choose one that will work.. vesa probaby/maybe
[12:55] <Milos_SD> but the problem is still on...
[12:55] <Milos_SD> :S
[12:55] <khermans> bullgard4, oh thought you said finger banger
[12:55] <khermans> :-P
[12:55] <bazhang> !ohmy
[12:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:55] <jetscreamer> sysKin: i can get my 6600 to work with the installer... it doesn't work on it's own
[12:55] <avile> bullgard4: The only thing I'm coming to think about, is that South Park episode.
[12:55] <khermans> i mean finger banner
[12:55] <slipttees> http://www.kinokopilka.ru/
[12:56] <sysKin> ok thanks everyone, I'll be back if I need any more help
[12:56] <bullgard4> avile: My native language is not English, and I am not familiar with the South Park episode. Can you explain.
[12:56] <mbah> hai,bleh knalan ngga'?
[12:57] <bazhang> bullgard4: offtopic is what they are referring to
[12:57] <bullgard4> bazhang: Aha!
[12:58] <shivy> Hi again, Q: what is the name of that quite scalable docking panel you see everywhere (gnome)
[12:59] <olaff> hey all, how do i install a .run package?
[12:59] <Xavier_Z> shivy: avant-window-navigator, perhaps?
[12:59] <shivy> olaff make it executable then ./package.run
[12:59] <mavi-> olaff: probably just run it
[13:00] <shivy> I mean this MAC Os like docking panel
[13:00] <shivy> Where the Icons grow when you mouse-over
[13:00] <Xavier_Z> shivy: gdesklets?
[13:00] <shivy> the only thing I found was a gdesklet named startersbar
[13:00] <Xavier_Z> shivy: AWN has similar effects
[13:01] <shivy> But I know there is a better package out there
[13:01] <shivy> just dont know the name
[13:01] <olaff> what chmod is executable?
[13:01] <shivy> its a pretty nifty app
[13:01] <shivy> chmod +x
[13:01] <Xavier_Z> shivy: does it require composite to run transparency?
[13:01] <shivy> chmod +x package.run
[13:01] <olaff> thanks
[13:01] <olaff> :)
[13:01] <shivy> Nope
[13:02] <B-rabbit> what is the advantages and draw backs for having a swap partition? ... is it really necessary to have one
[13:02] <olaff> its liking that shivy: cheers
[13:02] <th0r> shivy I have used wbar in ubuntu. I am looking at kiba-dock, but it doesn't seem to work
[13:02] <shivy> no i dont think so im running a xt1900 on dual monitors so me dont like composite
[13:02] <FrostRat> bullgard4: I believe the finger banner is just information on kernel.org to keep people up to date on kernel versions.
[13:02] <Xavier_Z> th0r: kibo-dock requires composite to work
[13:03] <shivy> yay ! :) i solved a problem today
[13:03] <olaff> so much to learn in such a short space of time!
[13:03] <th0r> Xavier_Z I had kind of concluded that...but their wiki doesn't offer much info
[13:03] <Enselic> oops I accidentally set a password for root, how do I set it to becomre random again? (like in a default install)
[13:03] <shivy> :-)
[13:04] <th0r> Enselic the password for root never was 'random'.
[13:04] <B-rabbit> Enselic, there is no default passwd for root
[13:04] <bullgard4> FrostRat: Thank you very much for explaining.
[13:04] <shivy> Enselic> passwd root     or sudo passwd root
[13:04] <Enselic> th0r: ok well how do I make the password go away then?
[13:04] <B-rabbit> Enselic, u just have to change the passwd again
[13:04] <th0r> Enselic if you set a password for root in ubuntu, it defines the root account just like other linux installs. I don't know of a way to eliminate it
[13:04] <Enselic> th0r: what? the root account already exists in a defaul install
[13:04] <th0r> Enselic you can change the password to match yours....that will return things to normal
[13:04] <olaff> HA
[13:05] <Enselic> th0r: no it won't.... I don't want root to have a password at all
[13:05] <Xavier_Z> Enselic: try somthing like sudo passwd -l
[13:05] <Xavier_Z> or sudo passwd -d
[13:07] <|Z_E_R_O|> khermans: how much time take about foremost to recover data in quick mode (from a 120G hdd)?
[13:09] <B-rabbit> ..
[13:09] <jetscreamer> 20 hours?
[13:09] <jetscreamer> moure?
[13:10] <Navlop> setting up sever, and i'am config my eth0, this is my setup so far, add:<IP_ADDRESS>, mask:<IP_ADDRESS>, network:<IP_ADDRESS>, what should broadcast be gateway i think should read <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:10] <jetscreamer> depends
[13:10] <Enselic> Xavier_Z: thanks
[13:10] <bullgard4> Where can I find definitions of the technical terms 'The latest stable version of the Linux kernel', 'The latest prepatch for the stable Linux kernel tree', 'The latest snapshot for the stable Linux kernel tree', 'The latest snapshot for the stable Linux kernel tree'? See http://www.kernel.org/kdist/finger_banner
[13:11] <khermans> |Z_E_R_O|, dunno dpeends on drive
[13:11] <|Z_E_R_O|> k
[13:11] <|Z_E_R_O|> thanks
[13:11] <B-rabbit> bullgard4, go to google and search with the "define:" query
[13:12] <th0r> Navlop broadcast should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:12] <Navlop> ty
[13:12] <B-rabbit> bullgard4, example "define: linux kernel"
[13:12] <B-rabbit> :)
[13:15] <bidossessi> anybody ever used hostapd with madwifi / any alternative to hostapd for availability broadcasting for a madwifi in master mode?
[13:15] <andy1> Hi all, I have SATA RAID 0 set up, and want to install Ubuntu / Vista dual boot - can any body advise?
[13:16] <ere4si> !raid
[13:16] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:16] <Xavier_Z> andy1: install vista first then install ubuntu
[13:16] <andy1> I have Vista installed now
[13:16] <andy1> but when I put the Ubuntu CD in
[13:16] <bidossessi> anybody ever used hostapd with madwifi / any alternative to hostapd for availability broadcasting for a madwifi in master mode?
[13:16] <andy1> it ddoesnt recognices the RAID array
[13:17] <Xavier_Z> !raid > andy1
[13:19] <andresmujica>  /msg ubotu flash > andresmujica
[13:19] <glads> hey guys - my grub isnt loading stage2 and i have nfi why
[13:19] <andy1> So I can't just put in the Alternate CD and then install a driver or something to get it seeing the Array?
[13:20] <andy1> lame
[13:21] <Xavier_Z> andy1: do you have vista ultimate installed?
[13:21] <achbar> how do I set PATH?
[13:22] <andy1> Vista Premium
[13:22] <andy1> (Home PrE)
[13:22] <achbar> i have ultimate
[13:22] <andy1> .. good for you?
[13:22] <achbar> well?
[13:23] <andy1> well what?
[13:23] <achbar> how do I set PATH
[13:23] <Xavier_Z> andy1: the howto supplied by ubotu is really old
[13:23] <andy1> Xavier_Z so is there a better way?
[13:24] <krux0> achbar, for temporary use PATH="$PATH:WHATEVER" && export PATH
[13:24] <verb3k> Anybody knows Manu Cornet?
[13:24] <B-rabbit> achbar, what path r u trying to set?
[13:24] <glads> hey guys - my grub isnt loading stage2 - can i get some help
[13:24] <B-rabbit> !specific
[13:24] <ajopaul> my gnome session startup is very slow about 40 to 50 secs after GDM screen, i use nvidia card
[13:24] <th0r> achbar do you want to add to the path or redefine it completely?
[13:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specific - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:25] <achbar> /private/use/bin
[13:25] <Xavier_Z> andy1: i guess try this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:25] <andy1> I don't want fake raid - I have HW raid
[13:25] <andresmujica> andy1 which card do you have
[13:25] <krux0> something like that
[13:25] <th0r> achbar to add that to the path use 'export PATH=$PATH:/private/use/bin'
[13:25] <RC_> can i get the termcap value for ALT+RIGHT ?
[13:26] <andy1> its an Adaptec
[13:26] <achbar> do I type export
[13:26] <th0r> achbar yes everything inside the '...'
[13:27] <andresmujica> ok and you're problem is that the kernel panics out at start ???
[13:27] <achbar> im running ubuntu on my ipod touch
[13:27] <krux0> achbar, export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/bin:/private/use/bin
[13:28] <Moult> hi
[13:28] <achbar> is it permanent?
[13:28] <B-rabbit> Moult, hi
[13:28] <krux0> that's for temporary settings. as soon as you terminate or logout it will no longer search your specific path
[13:28] <Quicksilva> please can smeone help. why would a default xorg.conf file built with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not work.  (xerver crashes on boot and doesnt load)
[13:28] <Moult> is there a way i can create a boot floppy disk for the linux console only? i have an ancient computer, and sometimes instead of waiting for the whole windows GUI to load i just want to go right into a linux console and do my editing there. is it possible?
[13:29] <achbar> where do I make it permanent?
[13:29] <alsadk10> i can't use resize on partition editor y?
[13:29] <Quicksilva> thge only way for me to boot up is to completely delete xorg.conf
[13:29] <ajopaul> on gutsy why does it take so long (40 to 50 seconds)to load gnome after entering username in GDM screen, i use dell laptop with nvidia card
[13:29] <Poonan> xirc.net
[13:29] <Moult> i have got a windows boot floppy, but the DOS is very primitive...or i know very little about DOS
[13:29] <krux0> achbar, to set it up permanently. edit your .bash_profile file
[13:30] <shnastybiznastic> so I just added a bunch of entries to my hosts file to be able to resolve some DNS troubles, but I can't locate the nscd script to restart all that mess within init.d
[13:30] <Xavier_Z> Quicksilva: did you choose the correct driver when prompted?
[13:30] <achbar> kay
[13:30] <shnastybiznastic> What do I need to restart to reload the hosts file?
[13:31] <Quicksilva> Xavier_Z, i use default for all
[13:31] <Quicksilva> I let it auto detect
[13:32] <Quicksilva> i think im using the open source ati driver
[13:32] <th0r> shnastybiznastic I don't think you need to restart anything...I think it is read every time it is needed
[13:33] <shnastybiznastic> th0r, okay, that's just counter to my other linux experience.
[13:33] <th0r> shnastybiznastic yeah...you would think there should be some magic incantation
[13:33] <Quicksilva> Xavier_Z, which one should i be selecting?  I have a ti radeon 9600XT and i installed open source drivers
[13:33] <shnastybiznastic> well, on slack, debian and hat there is
[13:34] <krux0> achbar, if it doesn't exist; create it
[13:34] <Xavier_Z> Quicksilva: i'm assuming that you've installed the binary driver, since the open source driver is installed by default on all ubuntu systems
[13:34] <th0r> shnastybiznastic for hosts? I think it is accessed first before a dns request is sent out...so it isn't cached anywhere
[13:34] <Sunhawk> t
[13:34] <Xavier_Z> Quicksilva: if that's the case, then you need to select the fglrx driver
[13:34] <shnastybiznastic> I might just be crazy then
[13:34] <th0r> shnastybiznastic testing...just a sec
[13:35] <Quicksilva> ok. will try that now. and see if it works
[13:35] <larson9999> i'm having a brain and google freeze.  where to you tell ff to report as ie?
[13:35] <Navlop> th0r i restart my network and i get the following error /etc/network/interfaces:10: unknown method...need help
[13:35] <larson9999> google freeze.  i think i coined a new phrase.
[13:35] <th0r> Navlop pastebin the file  /etc/network/interfaces
[13:36] <Navlop> k
[13:36] <th0r> shnastybiznastic I just added a name for my server to hosts and was able to ping the name....so no, no restart or reload necessary
[13:37] <shnastybiznastic> alright
[13:37] <Navlop> th0r how i'm loading server, no desktop or gui installed...
[13:37] <Xavier_Z> larson9999: try about:config > search useragent
[13:37] <th0r> Navlop well...the problem is in line 10 of that file...best I can do if you can't pastebin the file
[13:38] <Navlop> k let me check line 10
[13:38] <bullgard4> B-rabbit: Your answer is not helpful.
[13:39] <iCEifer> hello, I am trying to do a "configure" to compile a program and get this: checking for libevent directory... configure: error: Could not find a linkable libevent. You can specify an explicit path using --with-libevent-dir
[13:39] <iCEifer> anyone help?
[13:40] <Navlop> fixed it, had the word static with a capital S
[13:40] <B-rabbit> bullgard4, http://www.google.com/linux ....this is a search engine for linux only i found it useful.
[13:41] <wipo> hi
[13:41] <wipo> http://cadodivagando.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/bill.jpg
[13:41] <th0r> iCEifer check to see if you have libevent installed
[13:42] <iCEifer> th0r, I installed libevent1 using the package manager
[13:42] <th0r> iCEifer when compiling, you need the dev package also
[13:42] <th0r> iCEifer libevent-dev
[13:43] <B-rabbit> bullgard4, did that help?
[13:43] <iCEifer> th0r, okay, let me try that
[13:45] <Enselic> what is a quick way to figure out what wireless encrpytion that is currently  in use?
[13:45] <Hestv4> so, my digital camera isn't detected as a digital camera after I changed motherbord... still same os-disk and cpu... any ideas?
[13:45] <th0r> Enselic ask the admin
[13:46] <Enselic> th0r: I am the admin :d
[13:46] <th0r> Enselic check the wifi hub/router config
[13:46] <th0r> Enselic you can access it via ethernet (wired) even if you don't know the encryption key)
 is it detected at all?
[13:47] <Enselic> th0r: tha't not easy and quick :) I'm thinking like a command | grep
[13:47] <iCEifer> can anyone suggest a good CD burning program?
[13:47] <Enselic> th0r: I am connected to the wirleess
[13:47] <Enselic> th0r: or rather, a friend of my am
[13:47] <krux0> k3b
[13:47] <Hestv4> krux0: Jan  6 14:38:56 bunke kernel: [48986.281899] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[13:47] <Hestv4> Jan  6 14:38:56 bunke kernel: [48986.352360] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[13:47] <th0r> Enselic if it is already set up on your computer you can see it in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:47] <Hestv4> Krumar: then nothing more
[13:47] <Enselic> th0r: I want to give him easy instructions of how to find what encruyption he uses
[13:47] <Quicksilva> Xavier_Z, i tried fglrx driver and instead of showing me server cannot load error thing.  i just got a blank screen,  this is so wierd.  what drivers should i be using for max graphics performance?
[13:47] <Enselic> th0r: it's managed by NetworkManager
[13:47] <th0r> Enselic just a sec
[13:48] <iCEifer> th0r, I installed the dev and still get the same thing?
[13:48] <Hestv4> krux0: even, "then nothing more"
[13:48] <Hestv4> krux0: canon ixus 70... worked like a charm with old motherbord. usb shouldn't be that different?
[13:49] <th0r> Enselic  not sure about network manager...but if you right click on it and check the interface properties, I think you will find a dropdown for the encryption
[13:49] <krux0> Hestv4, I assume that is your dmesg outout
[13:49] <Hestv4> krux0: sure!
[13:49] <Quicksilva> or does anyone know the best drivers for 3d performance? im using an ati  radeon 9600xt
[13:49] <krux0> Hestv4, see if any new devices were created in /dev/
[13:50] <IdleOne> !ati | Quicksilva
[13:50] <ubotu> Quicksilva: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:50] <krux0> should be sgX or sdX
[13:51] <th0r> iCEifer that's become an interesting question...I can't find the encryption identified anywhere. Found the key....but not the encryption. <smile>
[13:51] <Hestv4> krux0: latest changed are ptmx, xconsole and tty :(
[13:51] <ajopaul> any idea why gutsy takes about 45 seconds to load after the GDM screen???
[13:51] <iCEifer> th0r, np...can you suggest a good CD burning program? does one come with ubuntu
[13:52] <Ropechoborra> iCEifer infraRecorder
[13:52] <krux0> Hestv4, this is strange
[13:52] <th0r> iCEifer I like brasero, but haven't had a chance to use it much yet.
[13:52] <IdleOne> iCEifer: gnomebaker K3B ..... check synaptic there are many
[13:52] <IdleOne> brasero
[13:53] <Hestv4> krux0: sure it is. I wouldn't ask otherwise :P
[13:53] <th0r> iCEifer gnomebaker works pretty good.. and k3b is more refined
[13:53] <krux0> this shouldn't happen after a mobo switch
[13:54] <iCEifer> thanks everyone.
[13:54] <Hestv4> krux0: different usb chip or something.. any hal change or so?
[13:55] <krux0> usb support is a kernel thing...hal and udev are tricky
[13:55] <krux0> try reinstalling them
[13:55] <Ropechoborra> I cant run ubuntu live cd in my Olibook ! =( After selecting Start or Install ubuntu it just hungs up =(
[13:55] <Ropechoborra> I tryed noapic nolapic but nothing happends
[13:55] <Hestv4> krux0: reinstalling hal and udev? may I ask how? those are new things for me..
[13:56] <Hestv4> Ropechoborra: try remove "splash", that helped on my geforce 8400gs
[13:56] <Ropechoborra> I also did that
[13:57] <krux0> Hestv4: apt-get install --reinstall hal udev or maybe it's hald
[13:57] <krux0> not sure
[13:57] <krux0> i avoid it as much as possible
[13:58] <Hestv4> krux0: no change :(
[13:59] <bidossessi> how can i scan for existing wireless networks from cli?
[13:59] <bidossessi> madwifi
[13:59] <PriceChild> bidossessi, sudo iwlist interface scan
[13:59] <bidossessi> thx
[13:59] <Hestv4> krux0: w8. I'll try my sd card reader...
[14:00] <krux0> ok
[14:01] <larson9999> Ropechoborra, i had the same problem on my hp.  i think i had to use the alternate install cd
[14:01] <graspol> hello ther
[14:01] <graspol> there
[14:02] <Hestv4> krux0: that one is dead too.. I'll try a usb stick
[14:02] <graspol> is this a chat room
[14:02] <Ropechoborra> larson9999 did it work?
[14:02] <lonejack> hi, somebody can help me to install gimp's plugin? Where must be put it?
[14:02] <lonejack> thank you
[14:02] <Hestv4> krux0: oh oh.. even the usb stick is dead in the same way.
[14:03] <iCEifer> where can I find a list of everything that ubuntu/gnome runs at startup? apps and such?
[14:03] <Hestv4> krux0: although keyboard and mouse works...
[14:03] <larson9999> yeah, it's running gutsy now.  the thing is my memory sucks so bad and i install on a lot of pcs, i forgot exactly what i did.  i think it was putting noapic nolapic and using the alternate cd.
[14:03] <pawan> how is google earth
[14:04] <larson9999> pawan, nice
[14:04] <Ropechoborra> larson9999 Ok, I'll try that :) Hope it works.. What does the alternate cd have that the original dont?
[14:04] <pawan> u use it
[14:05] <IrcFag> ciao
[14:05] <IrcFag> !list
[14:05] <IrcFag> a!addon
[14:05] <IrcFag> !addon
[14:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:06] <Ropechoborra> !alternate
[14:06] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[14:06] <larson9999> Ropechoborra, i don't really know.  i just use it when the normal one doesn't work.  me personally, i think they should combine them somehow so that new people don't get turned off becuase the regular cd doesn't work for them.
[14:07] <Hestv4> krux0: bluetooth on usb works.. seems to be umass related
[14:07] <Ropechoborra> larson9999 I think the alternate doesnt use the live cd and graphics so it avoids many problems.. Dont think there is a way to combine
[14:08] <th0r> Ropechoborra you are right...the alternate uses a text mode installer and is meant for expert installations, installations on machines with limited resources, etc
[14:08] <olaff> how do i edit the "places" menu items?
[14:08] <sysKin> hi
[14:08] <th0r> Ropechoborra I don't think there is much difference in the contents of the CDs, just the installer used
[14:08] <larson9999> Ropechoborra, no, there's way's other distros do it.  maybe it's not possible to do that and keep to one cd.  i just think it makes sense to get more people working with the main cd.  not a deal breaker for me.  just my suggestion.
[14:09] <th0r> olaff you can add things to Places by adding Bookmarks in nautilus
[14:09] <sysKin> so I installed ubuntu with 'alternative' disk, and now my system is broken. "disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter"
[14:09] <sysKin> help?
[14:09] <Ropechoborra> Well im going to check that.. be right back
[14:09] <olaff> th0r: how do i do that?
[14:09] <puppetmaster> Hi Everyone
[14:10] <puppetmaster> My Arabic language is messed up how to do it right?
[14:10] <th0r> olaff open a folder in nautilus, then choose Bookmarks and Add a Bookmark. I don't use gnome so I am working from memory
[14:10] <olaff> ahh thanks th0r
[14:10] <th0r> puppetmaster  mine is too...but my swedish and spanish aren't bad for an american
[14:10] <olaff> gotit
[14:11] <puppetmaster> So what is the solution?
[14:11] <olaff> how about making something start automatically with ubuntu?
[14:11] <puppetmaster> I succeeded to install it and I can write arabic
[14:11] <th0r> sysKin either you didn't install the boot loader or it installed incorrectly. Just a sec and I will pastebin what notes I have on restoring grub.
[14:12] <sysKin> th0r: it asked me to install grub and I agreed. there is a windows system installed as well (obviously now bricked)
[14:12] <puppetmaster> when I read any file it appears in some strang symbols
[14:13] <ere4si> olaff: apps-system-prefs-session-startup tab and then add the command
[14:13] <Darkmystere> Well i need help all the sudden my  10-1 key stopped working (i.e i cant type it)
[14:13] <th0r> sysKin  do you have the windows install cd avaiable?
[14:13] <reza> test
[14:13] <Darkmystere> i need it because alot of my passwords ect use the number 8+1=
[14:13] <Darkmystere> can some 1 help
[14:13] <sysKin> th0r: yes. should I do the usual fixboot/fixmbr? I need linux :)
[14:14] <olaff> ahh haa thanks ere4si
[14:14] <Darkmystere> i see the blinking key when i press it and i can do the Shift+(8+1 key)
[14:14] <Darkmystere> and get )
[14:14] <ere4si> k
[14:14] <Darkmystere> (
[14:14] <Moult> can anybody here suggest a linux distro that can fit on a floppy just for me to run the linux console?
[14:14] <th0r> sysKin well...I have some notes on restoring grub, and some on adding windows to the grub menu if you want to go that way. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50961/
[14:14] <Darkmystere> Maybe BackTrack Or Kubuntu
[14:14] <sysKin> thanks th0r
[14:14] <th0r> sysKin be aware some of those notes are for suse, but there are good notes on ubuntu as well.
[14:15] <Darkmystere> anyone help?
[14:15] <Dave-Id> could someone suggest a channel for wireless help?
[14:15] <th0r> sysKin and if you want to restore windows with fixmbr and then go from there....it should be possible to reinstall grub after without reinstalling everything
[14:15] <Darkmystere> #madwifi?
[14:16] <Dave-Id> thanks Darkmystere but that channel is empty
[14:16] <Ximal> Crocd : did u ever get that working yesterday?
[14:16] <Ximal> crocd : sir ?
[14:16] <th0r> Dave-Id if you would ask the question maybe someone here could help
[14:16] <valent> ytyyy
[14:16] <Ropechoborra> Well, downloading the Alternate cd :)
[14:16] <Darkmystere> Dave: lol sorry i thought it would have some 1 in it by now they didnt help me either i stayed for 3hours no luck -.- i cant beileave there wher 500+ idle people there
[14:17] <JakeGreen> hello
[14:17] <Dave-Id> okay th0r, as far as I can tell I need ndiswrapper to make my wireless work on ubuntu live cd....but i can't even find my driver....so I was just looking for a new source of info other than the ubuntu help files because they just keep taking me in cirlces
[14:18] <Dave-Id> perhaps there is another good info site?
[14:18] <FrostRat> Moult: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributions/Floppy/
[14:18] <Darkmystere> lol dave Id Maybe Trey #wireless lol
[14:18] <Ximal> No dave u don't ;)
[14:18] <Dave-Id> thanks Darkmystere
[14:18] <FrostRat> Moult: can't recommend any, since I've never used a floppy-based distro, but that should give you a place to start
[14:18] <Ximal> U need wl-apsta.o
[14:18] <th0r> Dave-Id there should be some good info on ndiswrapper. The drivers you need are the windows drivers for your wifi, and those should be easily downloaded from the web.
[14:18] <Ropechoborra> Dave-Id without the device driver i dont think you could do much =/
[14:18] <Ximal> would you like me to make it available to you sir ?
[14:19] <astro76> Dave-Id: if you really need ndiswrapper, it uses the windows driver... but you should ask your question here
[14:19] <Darkmystere> Dave-Id Lol your Welcome i found it using the search for text interface int he channel thing
[14:19] <IdleOne> Dave-Id: you will find the drivers for your hardware on the website of the manufacturer
[14:19] <FrostRat> Moult: You'd have a bigger selection if you chose to put linux onto a thumbdrive :)
[14:19] <Ximal> Dave-ID ... what type of pc do u have sir ?
[14:19] <Dave-Id> what is wl-apsta.o?
[14:19] <Dave-Id> dell laptop
[14:20] <Dave-Id> inspiron 1300
[14:20] <Ximal> k.. let's go from there sir..
[14:20] <Moult> FrostRat: i downloaded tomstrbt, but it's 2.4mb, i only have a 1.38mb floppy
[14:20] <Ximal> Broadcomm chipset ? internal mini or usb external sir ?
[14:20] <astro76> it just says it's not suggested or supported ;)
[14:20] <n1mda> hi guys... It seems like I'm missing "build" in my kernel: Makefile.inc:66: *** /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop. - How would I add this?
[14:20] <Dave-Id> broadcomm
[14:20] <Darkmystere> Well i need help with Madwifi I can get into Monitor mode But Airodump-ng shows no Access Points
[14:20] <Dave-Id> at least that's what show in hardware
[14:20] <Ximal> Ok... live cd doesn't let u make permanant changes .. Uhave to have ubuntu installed sir..
[14:20] <th0r> n1mda did you install the kernel sources?
[14:21] <FrostRat> Moult: I'm sure you'll be able to find something that'll just fit... I guarantee that somebody out there has wanted to do that as well. :D
[14:21] <Dave-Id> fair enough
[14:21] <Ximal> Lemme put the wl-apsta.o driver i use for mine... ok ? on my http server
[14:21] <n1mda> th0r:  no... are they in the normal repo?
[14:21] <Dave-Id> maybe i'll have to install it then
[14:21] <Ximal> from there you might be able to use it .. to enable ur wireless.. it's what makes mine run..
[14:21] <th0r> n1mda I believe they are...give it a try
[14:21] <Dave-Id> is it something i could d/l in windoze then use from the live cd?
[14:22] <Darkmystere> David-Id Usually if ur Adapter is Compatible
[14:22] <Darkmystere> it automaticly lets u use wireless with the restricted driver
[14:22] <Ximal> yes..
[14:22] <maurice_> bonjour
[14:22] <Ximal> im enabling it for you dave-id it's a driver i use.. 1 moment m8
[14:23] <n1mda> th0r: That fixed it :) Wonders!
[14:24] <th0r> n1mda I have my moments
[14:24] <minh> minh
[14:25] <minh><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:25] <Darkmystere> AnyOne want to help Meh?
[14:25] <Darkmystere> err ninh
[14:25] <allobjects> I have setup a fresh Gutsy machine and want to copy or move one users /home from their existing old machine to the new machine. Can someone please help ?
[14:25] <emma> Please someone help me I am in HUGE trouble :(
[14:25] <Ximal> dave-id you still there m8 /
[14:25] <th0r> minh should never post your email in irc
[14:25] <Ximal> ?
[14:25] <Darkmystere> that was a bold move lol 1.2k users on here and u send ur email
[14:25] <minh> minh
[14:25] <Dave-Id> yeah...just reading something from the #wireless
[14:26] <th0r> emma be specific
[14:26] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 help me?
[14:26] <silverphoenix> hello, i want know if yast4debian is compatible with ubuntu? (note that the way to install is adding a repository)
[14:26] <emma> Last night I wanted to make my new mouse work. some people in here gave me a link to a page that showed how to edit some x11 file.. Xconf or something?  I did that. When I retarted the computer, it said that x was not configured right. It all crashed.
[14:26] <Dave-Id> sorry Darkmystere i'd help if i knew anything
[14:27] <Ximal> david-id ; http://<IP_ADDRESS>  from there youwill see the file wl-apsta.o
[14:27] <th0r> Darkmystere what exactly do you need?
[14:27] <drcode> hi al
[14:27] <drcode> all
[14:27] <Ximal> let me know if u are able to access it.. if not .. I will enable the port on my router.. for u
[14:27] <drcode> ubuntu 6.0.6 equal to fedora 7 or 6?
[14:27] <Dave-Id> k...thanks
[14:27] <emma> I couldn't even start Ubuntu. So I thought I had to boot into Microsoft to come on here for help. So I tried that and it said xp needed to restore. So I did that. And then it reinstalled xp. And now it doesn't even go to grub
[14:27] <astro76> !xconfig | emma you can use this to fix it
[14:27] <ubotu> emma you can use this to fix it: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[14:27] <drcode> I mean pkg in fedora 6 or 7 can work under ubuntu 6.0.6?
[14:27] <Moniker42> everyone here likes to boot into microsoft now and again emma...
[14:27] <th0r> emma the file was probably xorg.conf and it appears you might have not editied it correctly. Did you by any chance make a backup of the file before you changed it?
[14:27] <rapha> Hi all!
[14:28] <rapha> What package do I get the command "htpasswd" from?
[14:28] <Dave-Id> page cannot be displayed
[14:28] <Ximal> ok 1 oment..
[14:28] <astro76> emma: :(
[14:28] <Ximal> setting myself as dmz ;)
[14:28] <astro76> !fixgrub | emma
[14:28] <ubotu> emma: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:28] <Ximal> ok
[14:28] <Ximal> try now david
[14:28] <Dave-Id> k
[14:28] <astro76> rapha: probably apache, type the command in a terminal, and it will tell you what to install
[14:28] <emma> th0r yes sort of. I cut and paste the part I changed into a different file and saved it on the desktop.
[14:28] <Ximal> it should be up and running for u sir..
[14:28] <allobjects> how does one move a users home directory from one machine to another ?
[14:28] <th0r> emma nope...fixgrub won't help. If you reinstalled windows it probably reformatted the drive and you lost ubuntu.
[14:29] <Dave-Id> says i don't have permission to access this file
[14:29] <rapha> astro76: It says "command not found".
[14:29] <Dave-Id> but the page shows
[14:29] <Ximal> right click and save it....
[14:29] <rapha> astro76: Could you try for me pls?
[14:29] <astro76> rapha: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[14:29] <emma> th0r -- But it doesn't seem like it was a reformat because my files that I had in windows are still here in xp.
[14:29] <rapha> astro76: Dapper Drake (it's a server)
[14:29] <rapha> astro76: But I'm using lighttpd, so that's why I probably don't have it.
[14:29] <th0r> emma ok...then you might still have ubuntu as well
[14:29] <astro76> rapha: ah guess they didn't have that feature then... htpasswd is in: mini-httpd, thttpd-util, and apache2-utils
[14:29] <th0r> emma you can get into windows just fine now, right?
[14:30] <emma> Yeah
[14:30] <rapha> Thanks astro76!
[14:30] <emma> I'm in windows right now.
[14:30] <th0r> emma ok....jeez...I just had that pastebin <smile>....just a sec...I will get you the info you need.
[14:30] <emma> It lost my wall paper but stuff I oridinally had on the desktop and programs are all still here.
[14:30] <Dave-Id> i dunno...brings up a pop up saying internet explorer isn't able to access this file or the page is unavailable
[14:30] <hcbox> is there another tool like ntsfix to repair a ntfs disk ?
[14:30] <hk2999> i don't get the area of the circle
[14:30] <th0r> emma hang on....
[14:30] <drcode> what ver of fedora equal to ubuntu 6.06?
[14:30] <astro76> emma: I think the fixgrub should work, because I am guessing this "repair" process also "fixed" the mbr ;)
[14:30] <minh> minh
[14:30] <Dave-Id> but now that i know the name of the file i'm sure i could find it
[14:30] <Dave-Id> thanks Ximal
[14:31] <Ximal> not really dave-id .. u will need it to enable the wireless restricted driver upon installation
[14:31] <minh> i want to connect hacker
[14:31] <emma> It was horrible. I didn't think that some problem with xconfig in ubuntu would make windows think it needed to 'repair'.. :|
[14:31] <Ximal> here ... email me and i will send you the file if u want ...
[14:32] <Ximal> use the address I sent you in pm
[14:32] <allobjects> What is the best way to copy a users home directory from one machine to another ? Both machines are on the network
[14:32] <emma> What happened was I got this new mouse and I wanted to make all of its buttons work. So I followed this link and I made changes to a file called x11/xconf(or something like that) I just cut and paste what was on the link. But I also cut and paste what I was replacing into a different file.
[14:33] <th0r> emma shouldn't have....not sure what has happened. But I am working on the assumption it was just an X problem. So first step will be to restore grub so you can try to boot into ubuntu.
[14:33] <th0r> emma let me know when you are ready
[14:33] <emma> Then when I restart the computer it said it could not start x.
[14:33] <astro76> allobjects, something like: scp -pr ~/ user@machine:~/
[14:33] <emma> I'm ready! and thank you!
[14:33] <Dave-Id> is it something i'll be able to figure out?
[14:33] <Ximal> the email ?
[14:33] <th0r> emma do you have the ubuntu install cd?
[14:33] <Dave-Id> sorry...no the install
[14:34] <Dave-Id> is it something straight forward
[14:34] <th0r> emma jeez...just realized you won't be online for this....
[14:34] <Ximal> yes.. more forward than most linux installs
[14:34] <th0r> emma that is going to be a problem. let me think this through <smile>
[14:34] <Dave-Id> cool thanks
[14:34] <Ximal> did you get my pm dave-id with the email address ?
[14:34] <astro76> allobjects, or more generically: scp -pr /home/sourceuser someuser@somemachine:/home/destinationuser
[14:34] <allobjects> astro76: since the user on the new machine is likely to have different user number and group number, will that cause a problem ?
[14:34] <Dave-Id> yes....i emailed you
[14:34] <Dave-Id> thanks
[14:34] <Ximal> 1 moment then sir.
[14:34] <hairulfr> emma _ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserv-xorg?
[14:34] <hcbox> i also go fuse: failed to access mountpoin when i try to mount the hdd
[14:35] <hairulfr> *xserver
[14:35] <astro76> allobjects: you might have to fix that with a chmod, correct
[14:35] <olaff> anyone got 3d max running on ubuntu yet?
[14:35] <allobjects> astro76: is there a way to list current numbers ?
[14:35] <emma> hairulfr how can I type that if I can't get into Ubuntu?
[14:36] <astro76> allobjects: another good way is to use tar, it will extract with the proper user on the second machine
[14:36] <emma> I'm trying to find the ubuntu install CD. If I can't find that then what?
[14:36] <astro76> allobjects: it's in /etc/passwd
[14:36] <hairulfr> emma: use another screen, i.e ctrl + alt + f2
[14:36] <th0r> emma did you have anything important in ubuntu? I think your best bet at this point is going to be to reinstall ubuntu.
[14:36] <th0r> hairulfr she lost the boot loader....can only get into windows at this point
[14:37] <emma> Okay give me 2 minutes to look for the install CD...
[14:37] <hairulfr> th0r, emma, ahh :) Ok, you could download the gparted super grub disk,
[14:37] <allobjects> astro76: thanks will lookup how to use tar and thanks for the /etc/passwd hint
[14:37] <hairulfr> I've fixed tons of broken grubs with that
[14:37] <hairulfr> but gotta be careful though
[14:37] <Enselic> In a vanilla Ubuntu install, is there a way to log in remotely to the machine?
[14:37] <hairulfr> Enselic: Yes
[14:38] <th0r> emma it should be possible to restore grub if you need things off the ubuntu partition, but since you can't be online while working on it...it could get confusing for you
[14:38] <th0r> Enselic several...check searcher.myvnc.com/geek
[14:39] <th0r> Enselic vnc and X forwarding via ssh are available in the default install...but NX works much better
[14:39] <Ximal> ok dave-id ... it's sent sir..
[14:39] <astro76> Enselic: hmm only vino (gnome built in vnc server) by default as far as I'm aware... you can install openssh-server for ssh/sftp
[14:39] <turbocueca> Can someone tell me a away to update a pendrive free space?
[14:39] <Darkmystere__> sorry internet...
[14:39] <iCEifer> if my windows partition is corrupted and I wish to install windows again I think it will overwrite the grub boot loader and I would like the loader to stay the way it is even after I reinstall windows in the ntfs partition. how can I prevent the boot loader from disappering due to the XP install?
[14:39] <turbocueca> My pendrive is empty and says 150mb used
[14:39] <Enselic> th0r: I meant in an untouched vanilla install
[14:39] <th0r> turbocueca if you just want to know the freespace I think df will do it for you
[14:39] <Ximal> you can email me if u need basic help dave-id anytime..
[14:39] <Darkmystere__> ok i cannot get airodump-ng to show Acess Points
[14:39] <astro76> iCEifer: you can't prevent it, but to make it easier to repair you could backup your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:40] <gaff_3> iCEifer: best bet is to install windows, then boot off the ubuntu cd and reinstall grub
[14:40] <hairulfr> iCEifer: You can't, but you can restore your grub, Grub install /dev/sda whatever, something like that :)
[14:40] <turbocueca> It is really empty, this has been occuring on my system with different devices, there aren't any hidden files either
[14:40] <Enselic> th0r: I am concereted wether the mom of a friend of mine is in risk if she has a weak password
[14:40] <th0r> Enselic yes...the only thing not in an untouched vanilla install is NX...I believe vnc is there, and know ssh and X forwarding are available
[14:40] <astro76> iCEifer: ignore me, no reason to back it up
[14:40] <turbocueca> th0r, nope, I know the free space, but the system won't let me move a file because it says the pen doesn't have the capacity required
[14:40] <iCEifer> gaff_3, so install xp, boot live ubuntu and just install grub?
[14:40] <iCEifer> astro76, done :)
[14:40] <emma> I don't have the ubuntu install CD anymore
[14:40] <Enselic> th0r: yeah but I need to enable X forwarding first, right
[14:40] <turbocueca> th0r, because on df or nautilus it says 150mb used, though it is empty
[14:40] <emma> But I can get online here with Windows. is it online some place?
[14:40] <Enselic> th0r: that's what I mea
[14:41] <th0r> Enselic I think X forwarding is enabled by default now. jeez
[14:41] <gaff_3> iCEifer:  yup. It's not a trivial option, I suggest you practice installing grub somehow
[14:41] <turbocueca> th0r, are you tho1?
[14:41] <astro76> th0r: Enselic: an ssh server is most definitely not installed by default in Ubuntu
[14:41] <th0r> turbocueca sometimes, depends on whether another thor was logged on at the time
[14:41] <hairulfr> emma: Is what online?
[14:41] <Dave-Id> k...going to reboot with the live cd....hopefully see you soon...thank Ximal
[14:41] <puxel> No applications are showing up on the menubar
[14:41] <Enselic> astro76: openssh-server is not installed in a default install, that I know for sure
[14:41] <Darkmystere__> th0r sorry internet probs but anyways i can get adapter to monitor mode  but airodump shows no access points
[14:42] <gaff_3> iCEifer: You can probably use the ubuntu CD to boot off your linux partition as well, work out how to do that incase you screw up ;)
[14:42] <emma> hair - the ubuntu install CD
[14:42] <iCEifer> gaff_3, where can I learn how to do this once I boot live?
[14:42] <turbocueca> th0r, did you help someone with a bcm43xx on some days ago?
[14:42] <robdeman__> folks i installed trac using 'python ./setup.py install' ... can I also remove it in a similar way?
[14:42] <emma> th0r I don't have the ubuntu install CD :( is it maybe online ?
[14:42] <Enselic> astro76: I wondering if there are other securty concerns I should be aware about
[14:42] <th0r> astro76 are you sure? I thought they had started including it
[14:42] <gaff_3> Does anyone know how to manually generate a CD TOC file?
[14:42] <astro76> !info openssh-server
[14:42] <olaff> is there a good torrent prog around?
[14:42] <ubotu> openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5build1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[14:42] <astro76> th0r: still optional ;)
[14:43] <hairulfr> emma: Ah, yeah, tons of places, probably best get it of mininova.org or somewhere for spped, or you could get some light distro, that contains the "commands" you need to restore your bootloader, if you don't have a fast connection
[14:43] <th0r> emma you can download it and burn another....but that will take some time <smile>
[14:43] <neopsyche> Hi how do i add myself as a user on MythTV
[14:43] <neopsyche> ?
[14:43] <turbocueca> th0r, are there any quick command to reupdate the status of a device?
[14:43] <emma> I have a little time..
[14:43] <articpenguin3800> how do i enable extented user attributes in ext3
[14:43] <gaff_3> iCEifer: you're stretching my knowledge a bit I'm afraid. I think from the CD boot menu you can get it to boot from a hard drive.
[14:43] <turbocueca> th0r, in what concercs disk use etc
[14:43] <th0r> turbocueca what device?
[14:43] <astro76> Enselic: here's a short guide on securing ssh if that's what you mean http://fosswire.com/2008/01/02/bullet-proof-your-server-2-ssh/
[14:44] <turbocueca> th0r, my pen for example, it is wrongly saying 150mb used
[14:44] <emma> thor -- I don't need all of Ubuntu any way do I?
[14:44] <hairulfr> emma: Your grub farked or is it something else?
[14:44] <emma> I just need to get back to Ubuntu
[14:44] <th0r> turbocueca ah...the usb drive...I have had that problem, and never found a good solution
[14:44] <olaff> is there a ubuntu equivalent of atl+tab in windows?
[14:44] <turbocueca> th0r, there should be a file..
[14:44] <Darkmystere__> Well i keep gettin an error when i try and download the backtrack live cd .torrent file it has an error connecting to ppers but when i use a torrent off my windows partion that i mounted it finishes the file
[14:44] <astro76> Enselic: otherwise it is secure out of the box if you don't install servers ;)
[14:44] <Darkmystere__> no problem
[14:44] <th0r> emma you need to be able to boot into linux...I will pastebin my notes on restoring grub, but you will see you will need the cd
[14:44] <Enselic> astro76: that's what I wanted to hear, thanks :)
[14:45] <allobjects> astro76: what about using rsync ?
[14:45] <hairulfr> olaff: YEs, alt tab .super + tab
[14:45] <emma> hairulfr I edited x11/xconf (or something like that) to make my new mouse work, and when I restarted it said X could not start and it just hung, so I switched to windows to come on here for help, but then windows thought it needed a system repair so it went through the process of reinstalling xp, and here I am. with no dual boot.
[14:45] <hairulfr> emma: Ah, ok, give me a scond, I'll try locating what you need to redo the bootloader,
[14:45] <olaff> oic hairulfr: :)
[14:45] <th0r> emma http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50963/  Take note that some of that is for suse, and some for ubuntu. But it does a good job of showing how to restore the boot loader if you can boot the cd
[14:45]  * tentatrice snickers
[14:46] <astro76> allobjects: would work... it's more focused to the situation where you need to mirror something, because it will only send the changes
[14:46] <emma> th0r okay
[14:46] <robdeman__> anybody? I manually installed trac... but how to remove it now?
[14:46] <Darkmystere__> try recovery mode and do dpkg x-server x.org.conf
[14:46] <taurusivy> can i use two different partition of the hard drive as swap? since i just add some sdram to my dapper server.
[14:46] <rapha> bye
[14:46] <puxel> Excuse me. I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 I believe, and Ive got a minor problem. None of the applications that are running appear on the bottom panel like they usually do. I can access them through the top panel's "Windows" tab, but I was wondering if anyone could help.
[14:46] <olaff> sometimes when installing stuff, it doesnt bring up the authentication window, and so hangs... anyone else experienced this?
[14:46] <emma> I clicked on the link and it kicked me out of the channel.
[14:46] <allobjects> astro76: but would it avoid having to chmod stuff afterwards ?
[14:46] <emma> th0r could you repaste that link?
[14:46] <th0r> turbocueca are you sure there isn't a hidden file in that drive? go to /media/<usbdrive> in a terminal and type 'ls -al' to see what exactly is there
[14:47] <th0r> emma http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50963/
[14:47] <olaff> the only way i can get round it is it kill the process
[14:47] <hairulfr> emma: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download this is a super grub disk, but if you choose to use it, read the instructions. This will let you restore grub. When you have a terminal, which i hope you will when ubuntu boots, then reconfigure xserver
[14:47] <th0r> emma so long as you DO NOT format the whole drive, you should always be able to do the fixmbr thing to restore windows and start again
[14:48] <Darkmystere__> try synaptics
[14:48] <Darkmystere__> and look for trac Rodbman
[14:48] <hairulfr> th0r: Yeah, this one: Fixboot c:, fixmbr, bootcfg /rebuild?
[14:48] <olaff> is there a way to bring up running processes in gnome instead of using terminal?
[14:48] <turbocueca> th0r, hmm total 6
[14:48] <Darkmystere__> yea
[14:48] <Luchohhh> hi
[14:49] <turbocueca> th0r, but no names..
[14:49] <Darkmystere__> press ALT+F2 olaff and then type: gnome-system-monitor
[14:49] <hairulfr> olaff: Yes, sessions, system, preferences, sessions.
[14:49] <turbocueca> th0r, how do I delete things without name?
[14:49] <emma> ugh.. im really sorry
[14:49] <Darkmystere__> And vralla a Win32 TaskManager GUI
[14:49] <emma> when i click on the link it kicks me from the channel.
[14:50] <emma> could you please repaste the link once more. I'll write  it down by hand.
[14:50] <olaff> ahh nice one darkmystere: thanks
[14:50] <hairulfr> emma: Weird, just google super grub disk
[14:50] <th0r> turbocueca yeah...that's a very good question....did you plug that drive into a windows computer at some point? <smile>. If you have nothing important on that drive, try 'rm *' and see if they go away
[14:50] <robdeman__> can I install the apt-get version of trac just over the manually installed version?
[14:50] <hairulfr> emma: There are quite a lot to choose from, from cd images to floppy images
[14:50] <FrostRat> emma: for next time, always remember to make a backup of configuration files before modifying them (I don't always take my own advice and regret it!) :)
[14:50] <turbocueca> th0r, yes I plugged in
[14:51] <turbocueca> th0r, says it doesnt' exist
[14:51] <turbocueca> th0r, and rm -rf * doesn't delete that
[14:51] <emma> Th0r could you repaste that link once more?
[14:51] <th0r> turbocueca there should be two files I believe, called "." and ".." but you should be able to delete everything else.
[14:52] <hairulfr> (16:47:05) th0r: emma http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50963/
[14:52] <th0r> emma  the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50963/
[14:52] <hairulfr> haha
[14:52] <th0r> hairulfr thanks for that supergrub link....learn something new every day <smile>
[14:52] <turbocueca> th0r, oh omg such an idiot, yes it is . and ..
[14:52] <hairulfr> th0r: :) No problem, it's a good one having lying around, for when you mess up
[14:53] <turbocueca> th0r, yes it is empty
[14:53] <th0r> turbocueca if it is empty then the free space should be good now?
[14:54] <th0r> hairulfr course...I no longer mess up <smile>
[14:54] <astro76> allobjects: I think so... you could just: tar cvf --preserve file.tar /home/sourceuser && scp file.tar user@machine:~/, then extract it on the other machine with tar xvf user@machine
[14:54] <turbocueca> th0r, no
[14:54] <turbocueca> th0r, the drive was empty already
[14:54] <emma> th0r: It says that adress can not be found
[14:54] <astro76> allobjects: I know you can do that all in one command from the source machine but I don't feel like figuring that out now ;)
[14:54] <turbocueca> th0r, but the free space is wrong, and so it won't let me move a file bigger then the free space
[14:55] <astro76> allobjects: err, to extract it is tar xvf file.tar
[14:55] <th0r> emma I just refreshed it. You seem to have some problems going on with firefox
[14:56] <xomp> could anyone here assist with VPN on ubuntu? I'm unable to connect to my work VPN for some reason. Continually getting "Remote peer is no longer responding" errors when trying to connect.
[14:56] <th0r> turbocueca try 'du /media/<usbmountpint>'
[14:57] <turbocueca> th0r, 2
[14:57] <turbocueca> th0r just a "2"
[14:57] <emma> th0r no that link doesnt work.
[14:57] <th0r> turbocueca something is not right....what is the mountpoint for that drive...it is a folder in /media
[14:57] <juggernaut> join #glug-nith
[14:58] <emma> are you sure it's http://paste.ubuntu-n1.org/50963/ ?
[14:58] <xomp> I followed a tutorial here http://www.longren.org/2007/05/17/how-to-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/ and have the vpnclient-linux-x86_64-<IP_ADDRESS>0-k9.tar.gz package installed.
[14:58] <turbocueca> th0r, yes it is
[14:58] <hairulfr> xomp: Got network-manager, network-manager-vpnc, network-manager-pptp,  pptp, pptp-linux, vpnc?
[14:58] <xomp> hairulfr, not sure, let me check :)
[14:58] <emma> th0r are you sure that it is http://paste.ubuntu-n1.org/50963/ ?
[14:58] <Stasya> Привет
[14:59] <astro76> emma: it's nl not n1, ell not one
[14:59] <emma> ohhh!
[14:59] <hairulfr> emma: The link works fine here.
[14:59] <emma> okay
[14:59] <th0r> emma...it is nl not n1
[14:59] <puxel> Excuse me. I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 I believe, and Ive got a minor problem. None of the applications that are running appear on the bottom panel like they usually do. I can access them through the top panel's "Windows" tab, but I was wondering if anyone could help.
[14:59] <emma> they look just the same on my comp sorry
[14:59] <Stasya> По русски
[14:59] <hairulfr> with nl...
[14:59] <Stupid^Kid> is there some software i can play 'show hand' in ubuntu?
[14:59] <XBehave> i have a usb wifi donge what are my chances of getting it working?
[15:00] <th0r> turbocueca what is it? tell me the name so I can work some commands
[15:00] <emma> yes that worked thanks!
[15:00] <xomp> hairulfr, the only thing I'm seeing installed is something called "Devices - Network Tools" that wouldn't be it would it? Maybe I need to get these packages you speak of installed?
[15:00] <turbocueca> th0r /media/tomcode
[15:00] <th0r> turbocueca just a sec....going for a usb drive
[15:00] <turbocueca> th0r tomcode is uppercase but for some reason i cant write upper case here
[15:00] <Nerous> can anyone tell me how to get movies to work
[15:00] <hairulfr> xomp: Yes, I think you need those. I've had some problems connection to vpns as well, but the problems seem random and not consistent.
[15:00] <Nerous> totem says that i dont have any plugins
[15:01] <xomp> hairulfr, thanks a ton :) I'll give those a shot.
[15:01] <emma> Okay this isn't going to work. I don't know how to do that mounting stuff.
[15:01] <hairulfr> xomp:  No problem, just right click the network-manager icon and add vpn, it'll start a guide-thing
[15:02] <emma> I have another idea.. You know how when I was in Ubuntu I could access files in Windows? Is there a way I can access files in Ubuntu? Then I could just save important documents and do a complete reinstall of Ubuntu
[15:02] <hairulfr> xomp: Left click, i mean, waFTER you install packages
[15:02] <hairulfr> emma: Yes, totalcommander has a plugin that let's you read ext3 ext2 and the like, possibly there are others
[15:02] <th0r> turbocueca if you type 'du /media/TOMCODE' in the terminal, all it says is '2'?
[15:02] <kbrooks> emma, you can learn how, but yes there is
[15:02] <kbrooks> hairulfr, WINDOWS
[15:02] <XBehave> emma if your using ext3 then yes, if not then no
[15:02] <e66> hello, everyboody.
[15:02] <Stasya> Пошли на Хуй
[15:03] <th0r> !ru
[15:03] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:03] <kbrooks> XBehave, ext2 is compatible with ext3
[15:03] <hairulfr> kbrooks: ? Windows what?
[15:03] <astro76> emma: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[15:03] <kbrooks> XBehave, so um, you're wrong
[15:03] <Stasya> На Хуй
[15:03] <e66> how to enable root auto login like single user mood in runlevel 4. I have no display manager
[15:03] <astro76> !ru | Stasya
[15:03] <ubotu> Stasya: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:03] <turbocueca> th0r, yes, and the mount point at the front
[15:03] <Stasya> Я хочу
[15:04] <th0r> turbocueca can you pastebin the output of the du command?
[15:04] <XBehave> kbrooks: ext3 is just ext2 with journalling so ofc thats true but generally people will be using ext3 or theyve chosen to use something special so talking about ext2 is abit pointless, but yes i was wrong
[15:04] <Stasya> Посещать
[15:04] <emma> where can i download a new ubuntu install CD?
[15:04] <turbocueca> yes
[15:04] <hairulfr> emma. ubuntu.com or mininova.org, or where ever really
[15:04] <kbrooks> !ru | Stasya
[15:04] <ubotu> Stasya: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:05] <XBehave> i have a usb wifi donge what are my chances of getting it working?
[15:05] <kbrooks> XBehave, um
[15:05] <kbrooks> !wireless | XBehave
[15:05] <ubotu> XBehave: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:05] <hairulfr> emma:http://www.google.com/search?hl=da&q=download+ubuntu+iso&btnG=S%C3%B8g&meta=
[15:05] <turbocueca> th0r, wth, computer's strange
[15:05] <hairulfr> emma but get the right version
[15:05] <kbrooks> XBehave, but to be honest um the chances are 50/50
[15:05] <eckesicle> emma: www.ubuntu.com !
[15:05] <turbocueca> th0r no caps lock or shift, firefox exits.. wait a bit please
[15:06] <kbrooks> XBehave, you may get lucky though
[15:06] <th0r> turbocueca I am beginning to suspect the usb drive...so maybe it is the computer
[15:06] <MewRS> hey ya!
[15:06] <XBehave> thx, ill give it a shot
[15:06] <kbrooks> XBehave, do you want to know why i'm saying what i'm saying?
[15:06] <e66> does anyone know this??
[15:06] <MewRS> in each file that i have to put the commands to be auto-executed at boot?
[15:06] <turbocueca> th0r, this happened with my external hdds too
[15:06] <annonymouse> guys  ive had a problem, ive run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop which i wanted to load  kde and see what that was all about, it ran for about and hour and a half installing stuff finished   i rebooted, it now says kubuntu, and the login screen has changed i login in and the back ground is changed, loades up into the same desktop with my old background and menu bar, i thought it should load kde
[15:06] <th0r> turbocueca unplug the usb drive if you reboot
[15:07] <turbocueca> okay
[15:07] <turbocueca> th0r okay
[15:07] <kbrooks> XBehave, are you there please answer my question with a yes or no
[15:07] <turbocueca> th0r that's what i'm going to do now, i'm getting a little upset with this behaviour
[15:07] <turbocueca> th0r brb
[15:07] <yapyccky> hello anyone can help me please. i've a gutsy installed and today i've tryied qt-designer but i've big problems in GUI. ..i dunno how to explain...can i upload a screenshot somewhere so that someone can have a look of it?
[15:07] <hairulfr> annonymouse: Chose KDE in session at login window
[15:07] <th0r> annonymouse it saves the last desktop you used as default ulness you tell it not to
[15:07] <XBehave> erm yes please
[15:07] <MewRS> in each file that i have to put the commands to be auto-executed at boot?
[15:08] <gil> hola alguien en español?
[15:08] <annonymouse> ive also lost shut down and restart options
[15:08] <th0r> !es
[15:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:08] <xomp> hairulfr, I've installed those packages (only a few were actually missing) and when I left-click Network Manager, I get no response or nothing pops up.
[15:08] <annonymouse> brb gonna try login out
[15:08] <emma> This is absolutely horrible.
[15:08] <puxel> yapyccky: you can upload photos to imageshack or tinypic.com
[15:08] <astro76> MewRS: please expand your question so we know what you are talking about
[15:08] <puxel> is that what you mean?
[15:08] <hairulfr> xomp: Strang, nothing at all? Did you restaert? Sometimes you have to
[15:08] <yapyccky> thx puxel
[15:08] <hairulfr> emma: What?
[15:08] <puxel> yep.
[15:09] <xomp> hairulfr, I'll try a restart. Thanks for all your help mate, much appreciated :)
[15:09] <kbrooks> XBehave, well the driver for the radio - the component that sends out the waves etc - has to be written for each wireless card/dongle
[15:09] <hairulfr> xomp:ur welcome
[15:09] <emma> Okay here is what I want to do...
[15:09] <chrometiger> does anyone know why when i play .wmv files  the playback goes chopping and pixely for a few seconds then snaps back normal for say 10 secs  then does it again over and over
[15:09] <emma> I am going to go to barnes and noble and buy another book about Ubuntu so the disk comes with it..
[15:09] <emma> That will work right?