[00:10] <ShawnR> so munz good news is, testdisk sees all the files on the card
[00:10] <ShawnR> but i don't wanna go through the "undelete" to get them all back (and i think it only puts it back on the card)... but i have hope now :) and that's a good thing
[00:11] <munz> yea
[00:11] <munz> i was able to use some copy command
[00:11] <munz> and copy to a local drive
[00:12] <munz> dont rember cmd but know the options are there somewhere
[00:13] <ShawnR> hmm, still looking deeper into the app
[00:18] <munz> ShawnR, using the undelete you can select where to recover the files to
[00:18] <munz> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk:_undelete_file_for_FAT
[00:32] <munz> any luck ShawnR
[00:46] <ShawnR> sorry, wife and kids got home, had to take a break from phone rescue
[00:47] <munz> no prob
[00:49] <ShawnR> trying to let testdisk write the image... see if it writes a "fixed" image or not
[00:49] <munz> cool
[00:50] <ShawnR> still couldn't find a spot with testdisk to copy files, but it might be a cmd line arg
[00:51] <munz> no it is the undelete...but it asks where to undelete and you can select places on your hard drive
[00:51] <ShawnR> can you do a undelete all? incl files that aren't deleted
[00:52] <ShawnR> i think it is just the partition info that is broken, the file system seems to be very much intact
[00:53] <munz> yes
[00:53] <munz> that was the issue i had only on a sata drive
[00:53] <munz> you can select all top level files/dirs
[01:10] <ShawnR> munz: why would it tell me no space left for image?
[01:10] <ShawnR> i have 250ish GB free on /
[01:13] <munz> not sure, u ran as sudo?
[01:13] <munz> you can try putting in ur user folder
[01:42] <ShawnR> yeah, ran as sudo, put it in my /home/username folder
[01:43] <munz> sweet, so you got files then?
[01:43] <ShawnR> ... no
[01:43] <ShawnR> that's how i ran it the first two times (when i got the space error)
[01:43] <munz> ohhh
[01:44] <munz> did you try just one file?
[01:47] <ShawnR> no...
[01:47] <ShawnR> it gets to like 10%ish and then cuts
[01:48] <ShawnR> i'm trying a diff folder to save it to now
[01:52] <ShawnR> ok, so really about 12% or so before it says no space left for the file image
[01:53] <munz> wierd...the card is like 1gb or so?? not big??
[01:54] <ShawnR> 16gb
[01:54] <ShawnR> but not the 250gb of freespace i have left
[01:54] <ShawnR> odd, right?
[01:54] <munz> yea...not even close...very odd
[01:55] <munz> did you get some files?
[01:56] <ShawnR> nah, there's a lot of files, i've not resorted to a one by one just yet
[01:57] <munz> what about your recovery location? anything there at all?
[02:01] <ShawnR> the one file at a time works
[02:02] <ShawnR> recovery location was just the working directory
[02:02] <ShawnR> the same dir i DLed and extracted testdisk
[02:02] <ShawnR> (in my downloads folder.. lol)
[02:03] <munz> file by file sounds like a pain
[02:03] <ShawnR> right
[02:03] <munz> man, wish i had an idea of what else to try...
[02:05] <ShawnR> yeah, me too.  i'll figure something out
[02:07] <munz> good luck, keep me posted
[02:07] <ShawnR> will do
[02:07] <ShawnR> you k,now...
[02:07] <ShawnR> i shoulda thought about it
[02:07] <ShawnR> photorec might work
[02:08] <munz> yea, was just reading on the website "If a lost file is still missing, give PhotoRec a try. PhotoRec is a signature based file recovery utility and may be able to recover your data where other methods have failed. "
[02:09] <ShawnR> thing is, i don't need to recover lost files
[02:09] <ShawnR> testdisk sees them
[02:09] <ShawnR> and photorec (b/c of the signature based recovery) gives you options for file types, and only looks for those (which for some android files may not work so well)
[02:10] <munz> ohh
[18:06] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping


[01:39] <lupul> just the one that im using now
[01:39] <lupul> but it stopped
[01:39] <easytiger> is kcheckgmail not working?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> easytiger: on some peoples its not
[01:40] <easytiger> gnomefreak: any reasons?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> easytiger: i dont remember off hand ther eis a bug on it
[01:40] <lupul> why don't you use kmail?
[01:40] <easytiger> gnomefreak: no worries.
[01:42] <easytiger> lupul: i just got usedto it being web based
[01:42] <linopil> lupul what about amule ? tried that ?
[01:42] <lupul> no i didn't
[01:42] <easytiger> amule crashes when you close all the search tabs
[01:42] <lupul> first i have to find out how to use it
[01:42] <lupul> :D
[01:42] <linopil> easy lupul ha
[01:42] <easytiger> it is gnerally reccomended to use emaule
[01:43] <linopil> emaule ?
[01:43] <easytiger> *emule
[01:43] <lupul> amule
[01:43] <lupul> k
[01:43] <lupul> thanks
[01:43] <kakalto> when I try to log in, kubuntu rejects and sends me back to the login screen, with no error
[01:43] <lupul> i'll try it
[01:43] <kakalto> any ideas how to fix?
[01:43] <easytiger> kakalto: can you log in from a termianl
[01:43] <kakalto> easytiger: yeah...... but I want to fix it.
[01:43] <kakalto> not just log in
[01:43] <linopil> IOW kakalto chek password
[01:44] <linopil> and languase too
[01:44] <sungam_> kakalto, what do you mean kubuntu rejects you?
[01:44] <linopil> and capslock kakalto
[01:44] <kakalto> linopil: No error. NOT password_!
[01:44] <easytiger> are you search X isnt crashing when you log in?
[01:44] <kakalto> ffs
[01:44] <easytiger> */r/search/sure
[01:44] <kakalto> sungam_: it simply sends me back to the log in screen.
[01:44] <kakalto> I can log in from console fine
[01:44] <sungam_> kakalto, but you get X up?
[01:44] <cristiano> hi guys i need urgently help!!
[01:44] <easytiger> kakalto: is X crashing
[01:45] <kakalto> easytiger: doubt it
[01:45] <kakalto> sungam_: yes, X is up
[01:45] <kakalto> kdm is fine
[01:45] <kakalto> I can run failsafe
[01:45] <cristiano> i installed ATI Drivers following ubuntuguide but it says now "
[01:45] <cristiano> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:45] <cristiano> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:45] <cristiano> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[01:45] <sungam_> kakalto, then easytiger 's right :)
[01:45] <linopil> maybe use backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf  kakalto
[01:45] <cristiano> pls help me!!!!
[01:45] <easytiger> can you log into gnome/fluxbox ok?
[01:45] <Piotsze> ok so there is no Display Configuration in System Settings after upgrade to Kubuntu 6.10
[01:45] <linopil> !paste
[01:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:45] <kakalto> linopil: I haven't edited xorg.conf
[01:45] <sungam_> kakalto, try creating a new user, and see if he can log in fine
[01:46] <easytiger> yea might be a profile issue
[01:46] <sungam_> kakalto, if it's that then it's most likely the config files connected to your user
[01:46] <cristiano> linopil i know sry but i'm nervous! i've bought this ATI radeon 9600 and it looks not to work even if i followed the ubuntuguide!!!
[01:46] <easytiger> cristiano: shouldnt have bought that
[01:46] <kakalto> in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there's a bunch of errors to do with wacom..
[01:46] <kakalto> think it's to do with that?
[01:46] <easytiger> network?
[01:47] <linopil> wacom is a pen to be used like mouse kakalto
[01:47] <kakalto> easytiger: me? wacom is tablet stuff, not network..
[01:47] <kakalto> linopil: I know that, thank you
[01:47] <cristiano> easytiger: mmmmm however why it doesnt load glx????
[01:48] <linopil> cristiano, patience
[01:48] <sungam_> kakalto, do you have a tablet pc?
[01:48] <Jucato> !baddevice
[01:48] <ubotu> If you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[01:48] <kakalto> sungam_: no. I've noticed that k/ubuntu automatically puts wacom crap into every xorg.conf, and I seem to be the only one who's ever had issues with it
[01:48] <cristiano> ok linopil i'll try to calm down but it's so bad when u buy something and seems not to work
[01:49] <easytiger> cristiano: i dunno.. but i know i know its dumb to by ati when you want to use it with linux :p
[01:49] <sungam_> kakalto, do what jucato suggested :)
[01:49] <linopil> cristiano, blame it on ubuntu this time. not on shop or yourself
[01:49] <Jucato> heh I did not suggest that :)
[01:49] <Jucato> it was the bot :P
[01:49] <JackPhil> does a resolution for usplash with 16:9 screen?
[01:49] <kakalto> sungam_: okie, trying that now..
[01:49] <easytiger> i get those device errors too.. but they seem harmless
[01:50] <linopil> linux still has its hardware issues. many of them for video and peripherals
[01:51] <cristiano> linopil but as i look on the ubuntu wiki guide it looks many people use it,it's weird i am not able :(
[01:51] <JackPhil> 16:10
[01:52] <kakalto> what's the proper method for removing a user account?
[01:52] <kakalto> rmuser?
[01:52] <kakalto> userrm?
[01:52] <kakalto> userdel?
[01:53] <Jucato> (System Settings -> User Management)
[01:54] <linopil> what is the analogous of dxdiag(windowz) in ubuntu ?
[02:10] <kakalto> okay, kubuntu officially just shat itself.
[02:17] <B-Minus_> how is the program called that looks like an apple launch bar ?
[02:18] <kakalto> B-Minus_: trademark?
[02:18] <B-Minus_> huh
[02:18] <B-Minus_> no
[02:18] <B-Minus_> its a launchbar
[02:18] <B-Minus_> but it zooms in etc
[02:18] <B-Minus_> like apple
[02:18] <kakalto> yeah
[02:18] <B-Minus_> how is it called
[02:18] <kakalto> they always have funny names for stuff under linux =)
[02:19] <kakalto> how is it called?
[02:19] <anderson> I have problem nvidia driver!! Help me
[02:19] <B-Minus_> i dont know
[02:19] <B-Minus_> lol
[02:19] <kakalto> anderson: what kind of problem?
[02:20] <anderson> no load X
[02:20] <kakalto> !nvidia
[02:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:20] <kakalto> did you follow the guide correctly?
[02:20] <anderson> yes
[02:20] <anderson> but errors
[02:21] <kakalto> what error?
[02:21] <anderson> installation normal, but laod erro and reboot machine
[02:23] <paolo____> hi ... i need to create a dynamic fade effect on an image and disply it in a fullscreen mode... which is the right command? thnks
[02:23] <kakalto> anderson: what error?
[02:24] <piotsze> Adept shows me some updates but don't install them
[02:24] <anderson> no return erros display, mas monitor black signal
[02:31] <willvdl> hi folks. how can I sign gpg keys in kmail?
[02:36] <holger> test
[02:36] <holger> hellihello all together
[02:39] <holger> i have a little question, is it possible to remap the key-combi ctrl-alt-7 to altgr-7 and if yes how? thanks
[02:42] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me?
[02:43] <RoKFiT> i need to put the main panel above the other windows with still being able to maximize windows behind it.
[02:43] <RoKFiT> is it possible?
[02:45] <Jucato> RoKFiT: you can't maximize windows behind it. what you can do is to autohide that panel instead
[02:45] <RoKFiT> that sucks
[02:46] <RoKFiT> also, i want to have it be able to auto expand as the task bar gets bigger, and keep all task bar entries the same size, always!
[02:46] <RoKFiT> the panel i'm refering to
[02:46] <Jucato> that's possible, but not the "maximize windows behind it" part
[02:47] <RoKFiT> oh how do i do that part then?
[02:47] <Jucato> RoKFiT: set the Length to "expand as required to fit contents
[02:48] <RoKFiT> i do that and it doesn't expand when it's on the left side
[02:48] <RoKFiT> the tasks shrink to fit
[02:48] <RoKFiT> maybe it will work on the right?
[02:49] <RoKFiT> no, same output
[02:49] <Jucato> and if you set the panel to hide automatically and raise when the pointer reaches the screen's ____ edge, you can have the effect that you want (maximize windows behind it).
[02:50] <RoKFiT> i know, but the panel is not expanding as more tasks fill up
[02:51] <RoKFiT> which i think it should
[02:52] <Hard_Wired> Where are the settings for the kpanel stored? I don't want to lose it when I upgrade to Edgy.
[02:55] <kakalto> LOLOCAUST
[02:55] <kakalto> "conversation with su failed."
[03:00] <omar> Hi guys, I need some help , I am tryingt to mount a folder between debians but i get this error "mount: RPC: Authentication error; why = Failed (unspecified error)"
[03:02] <beau> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:02] <beau> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:02] <beau> nice one
[03:03] <momal> beau: make sure apt-get or adapt is running
[03:03] <momal> isn't running*
[03:03] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | beau
[03:03] <ubotu> beau: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:05] <omar> Hi guys, I need some help , I am tryingt to mount a folder between debians but i get this error "mount: RPC: Authentication error; why = Failed (unspecified error)"
[03:07] <ssokolow> I'm trying to set up some Windows games under Wine for my brother, but it'd be nice if he could do this himself. Does anyone know how I could programmatically open a new X session for games that insist on 256-color graphics?
[03:08] <hirs> hi
[03:09] <hirs> Does any one know how to set a splash for hibernate/suspend? or at least a text message like hibernating/suspendig and resuming...
[03:10] <ukasz> hi
[03:11] <ukasz> i have a problem with kaffeine
[03:11] <digitalfreedom> whats the prob
[03:11] <ukasz> when i play something from other disk it coppies sth and doesn't start to play mp3 or movie
[03:12] <CzarAlex> Could somsone recommend a video editor for KDE? I'm familiar with Windows Movie Maker but would like to use a KDE equivelant. Suggestions?
[03:12] <digitalfreedom> well you got me
[03:12] <digitalfreedom> i got no idea
[03:12] <Jucato> kino?
[03:12] <CzarAlex> Jucato, is that for me?
[03:12] <Jucato> !kino | CzarAlex
[03:12] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[03:13] <Jucato> not really sure, so don't quote me on that one...
[03:13] <ssokolow> CzarAlex: I don't know whether Kubuntu offers it, and whether it would be what you're looking for, but I'd use Cinelerra for video editing. (I'm a Gentoo user on his brother's Ubuntu box)
[03:13] <CzarAlex> Jucato I wont quote ya but thanks for the info.
[03:13] <CzarAlex> ssokolow and you too. Thanks Ill look in to that package.
[03:13] <ukasz> maybe i will try to reinstall codecs
[03:13] <Jucato> !find cinelerra
[03:13] <paul__> howdi
[03:13] <ubotu> Package/file cinelerra does not exist in edgy
[03:14] <CzarAlex> I see.
[03:14] <paul__> :)
[03:15] <CzarAlex> Ah. Someone found how to install. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294007&highlight=Cinelerra
[03:19] <EightiesK> !mp3
[03:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <EightiesK> !opera
[03:20] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:20] <EightiesK> !tcpmp
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcpmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <CzarAlex> !find diva
[03:22] <ubotu> Package/file diva does not exist in edgy
[03:27] <EightiesK> !installing debian packages
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about installing debian packages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <EightiesK> !deb
[03:27] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[03:29] <alexicon> does kubuntu edgy come with reiser support for installation
[03:30] <BluesKaj> alexicon, no it's ext2 or 3
[03:31] <alexicon> D:
[03:31] <alexicon> why
[03:31] <alexicon> my home dir is on a reiser partition
[03:32] <BluesKaj> use GParted to setup a (k)ubuntu partition ...it'a a live cd partitioner that works very well
[03:32] <EightiesK> hello
[03:34] <Guardian> hi
[03:34] <Guardian> adept update wars me about a lot of kde packages to be ugraded, what are there for ?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> hi EightiesK, Guardian
[03:35] <Guardian> so much updates in a row does not look risk free :)
[03:35] <Jucato> Guardian: bugfixes and stuff
[03:36] <Jucato> those updates have probably been waiting since Edgy was released. I guess they decided to update by batch instead of one by one
[03:37] <Guardian> kdesktop: candidate version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[03:37] <Guardian> is it kde 4?
[03:37] <Jucato> no
[03:37] <Jucato> still 3.5.5
[03:37] <Guardian> k
[03:37] <Guardian> i'm not familiar with kde versions
[03:37] <Jucato> KDE version in Edgy is 3.5.5
[03:39] <EightiesK> who here uses kubuntu mainly?
[03:39] <Guardian> mainly ?
[03:39] <EightiesK> as there main os
[03:39] <Guardian> i do
[03:39] <BluesKaj> <--- 90% kubuntu edgy
[03:40] <Guardian> i'm not always satisfied by linux
[03:40] <Guardian> but ...
[03:40] <nixternal> <-- 100% Kubuntu Edgy + 15% Kubuntu Feisty
[03:40] <Guardian> it's ok :)
[03:40] <nixternal> ;p
[03:40] <Jucato> heh :)
[03:40] <Guardian> it's a pain in the ass in a company
[03:40] <EightiesK> ok how do i get mp3s and wmv files read
[03:40] <Guardian> yesterday i joined the active directory stuff
[03:40] <Guardian> pfff ...
[03:40] <Jucato> (what an introduction to a question...)
[03:40] <EightiesK> i haven't used linux since badger came out
[03:40] <BluesKaj> need windows for some video stuff that i haven't gotten working in edgy yet but it'sjust a matter of time :)
[03:41] <nixternal> EightiesK: wmv files are win32codecs and mp3s are libxine-extracodecs
[03:41] <Guardian> tooks hour because the damn firewall on the active directory server had ports clsoed
[03:41] <nixternal> EightiesK: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:41] <nixternal> ^^ that will get you mp3 support
[03:41] <nixternal> EightiesK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[03:42] <nixternal> ^^ win32codecs info
[03:42] <Guardian> i desperately tried to find a fair comparison between gnome and kde, which one eats less resources ... then i installed xubuntu on my centrino laptop :D
[03:42] <Guardian> stil i have a P4 taht uses kubuntu
[03:42] <EightiesK> i hate my gx cards
[03:42] <EightiesK> I have to use vesa...
[03:42] <Guardian> and another sucky dell laptop with ubuntu
[03:42] <Guardian> and in the end i can't see much difference
[03:43] <the-erm> Has anyone here had the joy of compiling mplayer from scratch?
[03:43] <EightiesK> not me
[03:43] <Guardian> surely gentooers
[03:43] <Guardian> :)
[03:43] <the-erm> edgy's mplayer is borked.
[03:43] <EightiesK> this is my first time in linux in almost a year.
[03:43] <the-erm> chirps and clicks all over the place.
[03:44] <BluesKaj> hehe, try the mythtv setup procedure...now there's "joy" :(
[03:44] <ssokolow> What changes do I need to make to my brother's account to fix this error message? --> "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[03:44] <Bulwinkle> Can someone help me figure out why whenever my screensaver comes up my screen goes black instead of showing it.  When I move my mouse to wake it up, I see the screensaver with the password prompt.  Odd I think.
[03:44] <EightiesK> is the reps. still multiverse?
[03:45] <ssokolow> He needs to be able to launch a second X session for a Wine-wrapped game which insists on 256-color mode.
[03:46] <EightiesK> anyone use vlc for media?
[03:46] <Ash-Fox> EightiesK, yes.
[03:47] <ssokolow> the-erm: I'm a Gentoo user. I've never personally compiled mplayer from scratch, (emerge does the work) but I'm willing to try to guide you through it.
[03:47] <EightiesK> Ash-Fox: like it?
[03:47] <Guardian> i never understood the motivation behind recompiling everything
[03:47] <Guardian> in gentoo
[03:47] <EightiesK> I use it in win.
[03:47] <Guardian> how great, wait all day long for kde or openoffice to compile ...
[03:48] <ssokolow> Guardian: A mixture of wanting control over compile-time options, and wanting something without apt's flaws.
[03:48] <Ash-Fox> EightiesK, I think kaffiene is a lot better because it can use 'hacks' that VLC can't.
[03:48] <Guardian> ssokolow: which apt flaws ?
[03:48] <holger_> hi all, i have troubles to remap the keycombi ctrl+alt+7 to altgr+7(this { on a german keyboard). i have tried it in kcontrol/Input Actions there is an example but it works with any key expect altgr-combis, damned :-( any ideas
[03:48] <Ash-Fox> It tend to use VLC mostly on Linux for decoding DVDs and converting them to transport stream MPGs.
[03:48] <ssokolow> Guardian: Can't open a copy of adept while apt-get is running in Yakuake.
[03:48] <alexicon> gentooer right here
[03:49] <EightiesK> Ash-Fox: IC
[03:49] <alexicon> ok so does ubuntu have reiser support? or they dont have it either now???
[03:49] <ssokolow> Guardian: ...and probably the biggest example of why I like a source distro is that I'm running an aRTs-free KDE 3.5.5 install.
[03:49] <Jucato> alexicon: if you use the Alternate install cd, I think you can have reiser support
[03:50] <alexicon> can you link me to the alternate Jucato
[03:50] <Guardian> ssokolow: what's ART ? kde sound manager stuff ?
[03:50] <Jucato> hold on
[03:50] <Jucato> !download
[03:50] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[03:50] <alexicon> Guardian: arts is your worst nightmare X-D
[03:50] <holger_> Does anybody know howto map ctrl-alt-7 to altgr-7?
[03:50] <alexicon> cheers Jucato
[03:50] <Guardian> well i did not use kde for 3 years :) i don't know what arts is
[03:50] <alexicon> :O
[03:51] <EightiesK> linamp
[03:51] <EightiesK> !linamp
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linamp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <alexicon> arts is the sound system for kde
[03:51] <Ash-Fox> !xmms > EightiesK
[03:51] <alexicon> its the thing you have to kill to get your sound working again X-D
[03:51] <ssokolow> aRTs is unecessary since I have hardware mixing and my apps can talk to the sound card directly.
[03:51] <Guardian> haha
[03:51] <Jucato> alexicon: um.. I'm not really familiar with this new download page....
[03:51] <Guardian> ok right
[03:51] <alexicon> yeah i dont see it Jucato :/
[03:51] <Guardian> will kde4 drop arts ?
[03:52] <alexicon> any idea why they ditched reiser??
[03:52] <alexicon> unlikely Guardian
[03:52] <Guardian> yeah i also noticed that reiserfs was not more available
[03:52] <ssokolow> KDE 4 has announced that they will be dropping aRTs.
[03:52] <Jucato> alexicon: the qtparted version they used in the live cd installer doesn't support reiser. they didn't ditch it.
[03:52] <Guardian> when i installed edgy
[03:52] <ssokolow> In it's place, they'll be using the dmix ALSA software mixer, and a pluggable interface between backends (eg. Xine) and apps called Phonon.
[03:52] <alexicon> nrrr
[03:53] <alexicon> so if i dont use the gui install i can have reiser?
[03:53] <Guardian> alexicon: try the alternate cd
[03:53] <Ash-Fox> alexicon, yes.
[03:53] <Guardian> but it's no more on the desktop live cd
[03:54] <Ash-Fox> alexicon, or you can just open konsole and do mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hdsomething5 after partitioning
[03:54] <Guardian> is reiserfs really faster ?
[03:54] <Ash-Fox> then quit the installer, start again, and just install to that partition
[03:54] <Guardian> for a desktop, is it worth using it compared to ext3?
[03:54] <Ash-Fox> Guardian, I find it a lot faster.
[03:54] <Guardian> k
[03:54] <EightiesK> !7zip
[03:54] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:55] <swanfl> jfs is better than reiser imho
[03:56] <alexicon> Ash-Fox: the partition is already made, but it has gentoo on it, wanna wipe that out.
[03:56] <alexicon> oh then actually
[03:56] <BluesKaj> reformat it to ext
[03:56] <alexicon> i can install the / on to any fs type, and it will read my home thats reiser stil
[03:56] <alexicon> it has reiser support, just not in the install..
[03:57] <BluesKaj> reiser shows no particular speed over ext
[03:58] <EightiesK> how much space does Kubuntu need to run live?
[03:58] <Ash-Fox> BluesKaj, I've noticed that creating say 12GB zeroed out images in vmware takes a second while in ext3 it takes a while it writes out a bunch of stuff
[03:58] <Ash-Fox> BluesKaj, also my system with the same documents and so on, seems to boot a bit faster with reiserfs (only difference is with the file /etc/fstab obviously in my tests..)
[03:59] <Jucato> EightiesK: what space?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> VMware . well i guess it would
[03:59] <alexicon> EightiesK: the livecd uses no space.
[03:59] <alexicon> EightiesK: a minimum install for kubuntu would be around 2gb give or take
[03:59] <Ash-Fox> BluesKaj, not talking about inside vmware.
[03:59] <BluesKaj> if reiser is so great then why isn't it used in ubuntu ?
[04:00] <alexicon> yeah BluesKaj what has plagued reisers rep so much they wont include it
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Filesystem Wars! :)
[04:00] <alexicon> rawr!
[04:00] <Ash-Fox> BluesKaj, because debian uses ext3
[04:00] <djdarkman> hy ,I sadly don`t have enough time now to search on the forums ,can someone tell me ,how can I make file sharing as easy as in windows?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> djdarkman,  install samba
[04:00] <Ash-Fox> That's why Ubuntu uses ext3.
[04:00] <eilker> !joomla
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <djdarkman> Dr_willis: ok ,but how do I make samba be controllable from kcontrol?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> djdarkman,  sudo apt-get install samba samba-doc
[04:01] <BluesKaj> so how does one get ubuntu to run a reiser supported FS ?
[04:01] <EightiesK> anyone ever heard of a portable media player called xm2 or something like that. my school uses windows so i carry my apps around on a usbdrive
[04:01] <Ash-Fox> BluesKaj, it is supported.
[04:01] <alexicon> BluesKaj: i think it does but you cant install on it
[04:02] <Dr_willis> djdarkman, i always edit the samba config file by hand.. i just uncomment the 'homes' shares and  make them writeable.
[04:02] <Ash-Fox> BluesKaj, the gui partitioner just doesn't have it as a option. It's just a simple mkfs.reiserfs command from the console.
[04:02] <Ash-Fox> You can install to it.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> djdarkman,  also use 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME' to set up a samba password for the linux users.
[04:02] <alexicon> ah ok Ash-Fox
[04:02] <Guardian> is reiser4 available with kubuntu ?
[04:02] <alexicon> :P
[04:02] <alexicon> yes Guardian
[04:02] <Ash-Fox> Guardian, yes.
[04:02] <Guardian> ok
[04:02] <alexicon> but not in the gui is all
[04:03] <Ash-Fox> I have not use reiser4 yet.
[04:03] <Guardian> downloading the alternate cd
[04:04] <BluesKaj> so it must be done previous to installing , too late for existing ext#
[04:04] <BluesKaj> err - installation
[04:05] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  at least not easially...
[04:05] <Guardian> can't an ext3 partition be converted ?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> think I'll stick with ext
[04:06] <BluesKaj> too much to redo , otherwise
[04:06] <Dr_willis> I see no reason for most people to use anything other then ext3
[04:06] <alexicon> converting would be reformating
[04:07] <chopin|pc> !wpa_supplicant
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <chopin|pc> ack
[04:07] <BluesKaj> http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html...makes it sound so great ...but suse sucks anyway ...it doesn't help that os
[04:07] <chopin|pc> anyone here use wpa_supplicant?
[04:07] <Dr_willis> You could proberly use Mondo/Mindi to backup and restore to a reiserfs. but ick. :)
[04:07] <alexicon> i was just concerned that it wouldnt have support to read my other reiser partitions
[04:07] <BluesKaj> ain't goin there as the saying goes :)
[04:11] <chopin|pc> !wireless
[04:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:13] <mducharme> whats the name of KDE regexp editor?
[04:14] <Jucato> !kregexpeditor
[04:14] <ubotu> kregexpeditor: graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 278 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[04:14] <Jucato> mducharme: ^^^^^
[04:15] <mducharme> shouldaknown, lol
[04:15] <mducharme> thanks
[04:15] <Jucato> :)
[04:19] <mducharme> wow that app is broken
[04:19] <mducharme> or im an idiot
[04:20] <mducharme> or both :D
[04:20] <fusspils> I get a screwed up screen in Kubuntu 6.10 after bootscreen on the live cd....6.06 works fine...if I install 6.06 then upgrade to 6.10 I also get the screen problem...any idea's?
[04:21] <BluesKaj> screwedup scrn..how do you mean that ?
[04:21] <fusspils> its looks like a broken VGA card style error, many coloured stripes
[04:22] <fusspils> but I know the VGA card is ok
[04:22] <sb9> any idea? my key for pipe-symbol and redirecting streams doesnt work anymore, already checked another keyboard - same
[04:22] <sb9> all other keys work
[04:22] <BluesKaj> must be ok if it works in dapper
[04:22] <BluesKaj> driver update for edgy maybe ?
[04:23] <sb9> is this some weird keyboard layout ?
[04:23] <sb9> for non linux users ?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> sb9,  you mean the | and >> << keys?
[04:24] <sb9> yes
[04:25] <sb9> oh got german layout, its the same key
[04:34] <mducharme> regexpeditor won the worst interface ever
[04:36] <Jucato> it's quite old, afaik
[04:38] <Zamber> how can I bind the windows flag key to the K menu ?
[04:39] <harald> hello guys, is there someone how can help me with my intel pro wirless 3945?
[04:40] <Zamber> harald try #linux
[04:40] <harald> ok tnx
[04:42] <monad_> hi, i'm trying to play a dvd on kubuntu and always get a message that no shared css library is loaded, so i manually installed libdvdcss, still i can'T watch dvds
[04:42] <monad_> is there any package i need to install regarding encryption?
[04:43] <luis> hola
[04:43] <angasule> has there been a large release of upgraded packages in edgy in the last hours? I have like 30 packages to update, looks like half of kde and xorg
[04:43] <angasule> !es
[04:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:43] <gerd> hello everybody
[04:43] <monad_> hi, i'm trying to play a dvd on kubuntu and always get a message that no shared css library is loaded, so i manually installed libdvdcss, still i can'T watch dvds
[04:43] <monad_> is there any package i need to install regarding encryption?
[04:44] <gerd> can anybody help me with tainted kernel
[04:44] <Croupier> hey guys how do i unrar programs in ubuntu , the only thing i get from adept is unrar-free and that doesnt do anything
[04:45] <Croupier> any other programs to unrar would be nice, i dont know so many names of programs
[04:46] <gerd> unrar is good program why u need any other prog
[04:47] <Jucato> !unrar | Croupier
[04:47] <ubotu> Croupier: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:47] <Jucato> Croupier: install "unrar", not just "unrar-free"
[04:47] <Croupier> i dont have unrar  in adept
[04:47] <Croupier> i just got unrar free
[04:48] <Jucato> it's in multiverse, you have to enable it
[04:48] <Jucato> !multiverse | Croupier
[04:48] <ubotu> Croupier: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:49] <slick_nick> hi -- i tried moving my home directory to a different partition..when i restarted, KDE told me dcopserver wasn't running because iceauth failed to lock the .ICEauthority file. i've been trying to find a fix for the last hour or so, but no luck...can anyone please help?
[04:51] <gerd> unrar is in multiverse repository
[04:51] <gerd> multiverse/util section
[04:53] <Bulwinkle> Has anyone gotten their builtin laptop SD reader (TI here) to work?
[04:53] <trappist> slick_nick: try deleting your ~/.ICEauthority
[04:54] <slick_nick> trappist: that's the first thing i did :) i did that and then tried running dcopserver manually
[04:54] <slick_nick> didn't work
[04:55] <trappist> slick_nick: ls -ld ~
[04:56] <slick_nick> it's owned by me, permissions are 777 (side efect of this is that i cna't switch between chat and terminal without kdm interrupting...)
[04:56] <trappist> slick_nick: 777 is bad mkay
[04:57] <trappist> slick_nick: 750 is good
[04:57] <slick_nick> trappist: ah, i see...you think that'll fix it?
[04:58] <trappist> slick_nick: don't know, but it's worth a shot and should be done in any case
[04:59] <slick_nick> trappist: ok, thanks...if this doesn't work, i'll probably reinstall (like i said, i've just moved my /home to a new partition, so at least my data's safe...)
[05:01] <Croupier> hey guys i am reading the man for unrar but im not quite getting it
[05:02] <trappist> Croupier: unrar x filename.rar
[05:02] <Croupier> is the command unrar -e- file.rar correct
[05:02] <confusco> when I'm playing Flash videos like youtube or Google video in Firefox, it all loads, but plays only for a few seconds. when I move the seek bar to a different position, it starts playing for a few seconds again, and stops. anybody have an idea?
[05:03] <trappist> confusco: sounds like you're running out of buffer
[05:03] <confusco> how can i fix?
[05:03] <trappist> confusco: try pausing it for a minute or so, then hitting play again
[05:03] <confusco> no, not that kind of buffer
[05:03] <confusco> I said, it loads completely
[05:04] <confusco> finished loading, still does that
[05:04] <trappist> confusco: oh, that happened to me before.  closing the browser and reopening worked.  it was like flash got mad about having opened so many videos
[05:05] <confusco> okay I'll try
[05:06] <confusco> wow you're right
[05:06] <confusco> thanks
[05:13] <trappist> confusco: good deal
[05:14] <BluesKaj> *** WARNING *** : the driver doesn't provide a correct size for memory mapping....WTF ?
[05:15] <BluesKaj> DVR tries to correct this error, but some strange things may happend, you are warned.
[05:15] <BluesKaj> Can't map memory for capture : Invalid argument
[05:23] <RoKFiT> why isn't konqueror single click interface?
[05:24] <Jucato> maybe you changed it?
[05:26] <RoKFiT> i have to double click folders to access them
[05:26] <RoKFiT> and i didn't change it
[05:26] <RoKFiT> okay nevermind
[05:26] <RoKFiT> i lied
[05:28] <Dr_willis> quintuppleclick!
[05:29] <Jucato> gigaclick
[05:30] <NosstaZenith> Can someone help me in changing the look of the login screen, (Edgy 6.10 KuBun.) Tried using the systems settings advanced tool but no joy
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Install some kdm themes,, and   the tool that lets ya change it.. and have a blast. :)
[05:30] <NosstaZenith> ah ha, chhers
[05:30] <Dr_willis> kde-kdm-themes - Themes for the K Display Manager
[05:30] <Dr_willis> kdmtheme - theme manager for KDM
[05:31] <NosstaZenith> *cheers
[05:35] <NosstaZenith> I have KDM installed, but cannot find the theme's for it, just installing the artwork
[05:35] <NosstaZenith> when I try and change it, it seams to kinda change it, but then it puts the default login theme for edgy over the top
[05:36] <Dr_willis> I just installed  kde-kdm-themes kdmtheme, and its showing 4 kdm 'themes' now under the  KDM control center thing.
[05:37] <NosstaZenith> maybe I dont have the right respostories to install it
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !info  kde-kdm-themes
[05:38] <ubotu> kde-kdm-themes: Themes for the K Display Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4-1 (edgy), package size 639 kB, installed size 784 kB
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !info kdmtheme
[05:38] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[05:38] <NosstaZenith> ta
[05:38] <NosstaZenith> I like that little feature
[05:38] <NosstaZenith> never seen that before
[05:39] <Dr_willis> check out apt:\ in konqueror also. :)
[05:39] <NosstaZenith> I am just looking at the res. in adept manager
[05:40] <Dr_willis> i thought universe was the default. :)
[05:41] <NosstaZenith> nopes, well I installed 6.06TLS and then did an upgrade
[05:42] <BluesKaj> kde-kdm-themes_3.4-1_all.deb
[05:44] <julle> Anyone know if there is a driver or something that enabled me to use my external soundcard box. i have a Creative Audigy 2 Platium eX?
[05:47] <NosstaZenith> I dunno if this will help but in the mixer, there is a switches tab, try playing around with some of those
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Thats an external Usb sound card eh?
[05:49] <NosstaZenith> yeah, firewire I think
[05:49] <NosstaZenith> think that it has a daughter board to connect it all up
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Huh? Firewire... ya better check your plugs..
[05:49] <Dr_willis> OR are we refering to extra things.. :P
[05:50] <NosstaZenith> hehe I dunno, :P I am just getting my problem fixed :P
[05:50] <Dr_willis> there are audigy pci cards with the 'bay' that can internal or external.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> I have a Audigy2zs with an enternal bay. with headset/ins and outs...
[05:50] <Dr_willis> internal bay.
[05:50] <NosstaZenith> Well there is a connector on my Audigy for the front panel
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Its a PCI sound card then you are saying NosstaZenith ?
[05:51] <NosstaZenith> but like you say it is internal, but I have seen some of the creative cards use the firewire connector on the back used to connect the external box
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Ive not noticed them using firewire for that.. i know my internal bay has 2 cables going to it.. one real wide for the in/outs and one firewiresh for the firewire plug on the bay.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> My card works without the bay attatched. :)
[05:52] <NosstaZenith> yeah mine too
[05:52] <NosstaZenith> I dont have a need for the bay
[05:52] <Dr_willis> i just plug the speakers in to the card.   The headset port on the front is nice however.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Not tried the remote under linux yet.
[05:53] <NosstaZenith> hehe
[05:53] <NosstaZenith> hardly use my headies
[05:53] <NosstaZenith> got nce speakers that do the job
[05:54] <NosstaZenith> haha, there are so many more updates now
[05:55] <NosstaZenith> got so pissed off with vista last night just wiped my main HD and installed the KBun6.06TLS cd and then upgraded
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Proberly would of been better to get  an Edgy cd :)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> and do a clean install/no upgrade
[05:57] <NosstaZenith> yeah, might just download it at work and then burn it off and do full clean install, jst wanted it done like last night :P
[05:57] <NosstaZenith> I like the crystal theme for kde, well nice
[06:00] <RoKFiT> the ntfs driver ruined all of my music
[06:01] <RoKFiT> 700 songs
[06:01] <RoKFiT> quality songs at that!
[06:04] <julle> RoKFiT: du talking about Ntfs-3G?
[06:05] <jager|work> orly
[06:05] <jager|work> not ready for prime time?
[06:05] <RoKFiT> yeah.
[06:05] <jager|work> ntfs-3g i mean
[06:05] <jager|work> i've been meaning to play with it
[06:05] <RoKFiT> julle, i am.
[06:05] <jager|work> i want to use it to do virus scans on infected windows hard disks from linux
[06:05] <jager|work> bad idea maybe?
[06:06] <RoKFiT> i dunno, but all my audio pops
[06:06] <julle> RoKFiT: okey i was going to install it yesterday but i am too new to linux so i couldn't even compile it got errors :P
[06:06] <jager|work> lame
[06:07] <alexicon> something is screwed with the wifi thoughpaste me a pipe someone
[06:08] <NosstaZenith> Nope still no joy still overlaying the kubuntu login theme
[06:09] <NosstaZenith> * sigh *
[06:13] <RoKFiT> julle: i didn't have to compile it
[06:13] <[GuS] > Hi!
[06:13] <RoKFiT> but i do believe it put a lot of pops in my mp3's
[06:14] <mkaster> hi
[06:14] <mkaster> i need some help guys
[06:14] <trappist> RoKFiT: the files are intact, it's just that the driver kinda sucks so it's not reading it very well
[06:15] <RoKFiT> they're already transfered back to an ext3 drive
[06:15] <RoKFiT> that same drive, just formatted to ext3
[06:15] <|GaiJin|> haha.... upgraded to edgy a few days ago... and restarted my machine today... and upgraded my packages... and now konqueror won't be found on my system:P
[06:15] <mkaster> i have a hard drive with a partition that i found out is GPT Protective Partition, which I found out in windows... How do I get rid of the partition?
[06:15] <mkaster> I want to format it to FAT
[06:16] <i7ch> is the (k|u|edu)buntu kernel boot graphics a kernel patch, or is it independent? i ask because i'm compiling a fresh kernel from kernel.org and wondering if i should patch it to make it look nice.
[06:17] <RoKFiT> is the ntfs driver known to cause pops in music like that?
[06:18] <trappist> RoKFiT: the medium-latency, non-preemptible kernel is known to cause pops when i/o is dragging, as it often will on ntfs partitions
[06:18] <|GaiJin|> RoKFiT: I have a friend who had all his mp3 on a NTFS drive, and suddenly He lost every other of them,....
[06:19] <RoKFiT> trappist: how do i know if i have a non-preemptible kernel
[06:19] <trappist> RoKFiT: if you're running edgy, you have a non-preemptible kernel
[06:19] <RoKFiT> but it did this with fedora core 6
[06:19] <trappist> RoKFiT: there's a low-latency kernel package in feisty universe that's basically specifically designed to help this problem
[06:19] <i7ch> trappist, any idea re my question?
[06:20] <trappist> RoKFiT: don't know anything about fedora's kernels
[06:20] <RoKFiT> trappist: how do i get this kernel
[06:20] <trappist> i7ch: I think the nice folks in #ubuntu-artwork can answer that
[06:20] <i7ch> trappist, i'll try them
[06:21] <trappist> RoKFiT: not sure.  it's probably tricky, without upgrading to feisty, which is probably a bad idea
[06:22] <RoKFiT> maybe its bad mp3?  some songs actually don't pop!
[06:23] <trappist> RoKFiT: listen to the first 10 seconds or so several times, and see if the pops are in the same places each time
[06:24] <RoKFiT> they are, even when i transfer the files to windows
[06:24] <trappist> RoKFiT: for example, higher quality mp3s might pop more, because it has to do more i/o for the same length of audio
[06:24] <trappist> RoKFiT: then it sounds like those files are in fact damaged
[06:24] <trappist> RoKFiT: but it's very, very unlikely that it was caused by the ntfs drivers
[06:24] <RoKFiT> from the driver?
[06:24] <trappist> no
[06:25] <RoKFiT> okay than i feel better
[06:25] <trappist> the ntfs driver is only going to screw things up if you set it read/write, and even then if it screws up it'll usually wreck the whole filesystem
[06:25] <RoKFiT> it has to be the audio then
[06:26] <RoKFiT> the files must have been bad from day 1
[06:26] <trappist> RoKFiT: yeah, maybe a bad rip.  my whole pink floyd the wall disc 2 is like that :)
[06:26] <zorglu_> q. is there a channel for people coding on ubuntu ?
[06:28] <zorglu_> like i would like to compile a programm in static with glibc, and fails to find a ubuntu package supporting that, is there any i miss ?
[06:28] <zorglu_> to answer this kind on question :)
[06:28] <RoKFiT> well thanks for the information trappist
[06:28] <RoKFiT> i will definitely start re-downloading
[06:28] <RoKFiT> at first i was really mad at linux and that i transfered over
[06:29] <RoKFiT> well mad at myself
[06:29] <RoKFiT> then i started thinking it must be the files
[06:29] <RoKFiT> because they all aren't like that
[06:39] <niblets> I've just upgraded from dapper to edgy.. X won't start. Any ideas where to start?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> reconfiure the X server, reinstall the nvidia/ati drivers
[06:40] <niblets> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> somthing like that.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> you may want to reinstall the video card drivers first
[06:40] <niblets> then apt-get install xorg-xserver-driver-ati?
[06:42] <niblets> what's the difference between xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-driver-ati?
[06:43] <trappist> niblets: I believe one is deprecated in favor of the other
[06:43] <niblets> trappist: any ideas which?
[06:44] <znapper> !skype
[06:44] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:44] <trappist> niblets: looks like the video one is the new one
[06:44] <niblets> trappist: thanks
[06:49] <mluser-work> Does anyone know if there is already a repository for the new ati 8.31.5 fglrx drivers?
[06:55] <majnoon> <<installing gnome (bored bored) it DOES have some nice toys
[06:58] <alexicon> how do you manually force a dhcp release
[06:59] <trappist> alexicon: ifdown <device>
[07:00] <trappist> or sudo ifdown
[07:00] <trappist> then ifup
[07:01] <alexicon> ok
[07:01] <alexicon> i woulda thought eth0 would release the address when i tried to connect the wifi but it didnt
[07:04] <wildchild> hello there, I ha ve problems with updating system. It seems some servers aren't responding or what; paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35799/
[07:04] <Dr_willis> ITs possible the servers are down/overloaded
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Thats not too uncommon.. sadly.
[07:05] <wildchild> so I have to keep trying?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> could chante your sources to point to other servers
[07:06] <Dr_willis> or wait a while
[07:06] <wildchild> especially this repo and server: Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out ; deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.6.0/kubuntu edgy main
[07:07] <wildchild> Dr_Wills: could chante your sources to point to other servers  how?
[07:07] <wildchild> I added 2 repos to get the newest krita
[07:07] <wildchild> from koffice
[07:08] <wildchild> and one of them is constantly not responding - server
[07:08] <Dr_willis> edit the /etc/apt/sources.list is how i always do it.. if its an non-official server... no idea what other ones to try.
[07:09] <wildchild> it's official., I got it on their site..
[07:09] <Dr_willis> official from who.. :) not 'ubuntu' official you mean?
[07:10] <wildchild> heh
[07:10] <wildchild> offical from koffice and since koffice isn't in repos of ubuntu... than apperantly isn't official
[07:15] <kakalto_> if I have a theme.kth and I want to install it, how do I?
[07:17] <mducharme> where are the icons stored
[07:18] <Dr_willis> which icons. :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> they can be in several places
[07:18] <[1-1-11] Zeti> ShipIt remains committed to providing free CDs of Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. <- I somehow got 6.10...
[07:20] <mducharme> KDE's
[07:21] <galathalion> anyone use opera?
[07:21] <EightiesK> !usb
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <EightiesK> !flash
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <EightiesK> !flashdrive
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <RoKFiT> !seen intelikey
[07:22] <Zeti> [%]  RoKFiT, well... i don't remember seeing [intelikey]  :\ .UPP.
[07:22] <ubotu> I last saw intelikey<EMAIL_ADDRESS>12h 44m 56s ago, quiting: "shalom."
[07:22] <sparrw> firefox on kubuntu associates pdf with kghostview (which has no search) instead of kpdf...  why?
[07:22] <RoKFiT> root, lol
[07:22] <EightiesK> how do i rename my flash drive?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> EightiesK,  using edgy?
[07:23] <Fragrag> Does anybody know how to open Open Office Word Processor using Alt+F2?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> oobase          oocalc          oodraw          ooffice         oofromtemplate  ooimpress       oomath          ooo-wrapper     ooweb           oowriter
[07:23] <EightiesK> no
[07:23] <mducharme> oowriter
[07:23] <EightiesK> the new one
[07:24] <Dr_willis> EightiesK,  You mean the Farrting Fawn?
[07:24] <Fragrag> Thanks alot Dr_willis
[07:25] <EightiesK> i dunno
[07:25] <EightiesK> i just updated from worthog
[07:25] <Fragrag> That's a codename? Farting Fawn?!
[07:25] <EightiesK> X-D
[07:25] <EightiesK> how do i find out
[07:25] <EightiesK> i just got the cd in the mail
[07:26] <trappist> Fragrag: it's feisty fawn.
[07:26] <alexicon> im trying to install nvidia glx drivers, and when i tyr the enable command i get: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:26] <alexicon> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:26] <Fragrag> Oh, too bad, farting fawn is awesome :p
[07:26] <Zeti> now a bit more detailed
[07:27] <Zeti> I ordered a kubuntu via shipit
[07:27] <Zeti> now i get a package with a cd
[07:27] <Zeti> on the package 6.1 is stated
[07:27] <Zeti> i put the disc into a drive and started it under windows
[07:27] <EightiesK> Dr_willis: ya edgy
[07:27] <Zeti> the window title says 6.06 Disc Three
[07:28] <Zeti> how can i get definitely which version the cd is?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Edgy Eft is the 'latest' the fawn is the next genreation :P
[07:28] <Dr_willis> EightiesK,  what filesystem is on that usb drive? i  got mine all named. but not sure how i did it.. heh
[07:28] <EightiesK> well is fawn worth the hassle
[07:29] <EightiesK> of reinstalling
[07:29] <EightiesK> or not yet?
[07:29] <Dr_willis>      EightiesK  i would wait on it
[07:29] <EightiesK> k cool
[07:29] <Dr_willis> under media:/  i have the drives shown as their volume lables
[07:29] <Dr_willis> under /media/ they are shown as their mount points
[07:29] <EightiesK> I just bought a new flash drive and i need to name it
[07:30] <Dr_willis> Whats it called now?
[07:30] <EightiesK> usbdrive
[07:30] <alexicon> how do i check that i have the right version of glx, there really isnt a choice that i see *_*
[07:30] <EightiesK> no
[07:30] <EightiesK> usbdisk
[07:31] <Dr_willis> my flashdrive gets mounted to        /media/usbdisk        but under media:/  its called  '2.1gbMedia'  :)
[07:31] <EightiesK> lol
[07:32] <EightiesK> whats the ti83 emulator
[07:32] <Dr_willis> I do have ext3 filesystem on it. and i  used the ext tools to lable the drive that name i think
[07:32] <alexicon> !glx
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <alexicon> !nvidia
[07:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:32] <EightiesK> i need mine in fat
[07:33] <EightiesK> so i can change from mac to windows to linux
[07:33] <hrp2171> !mplayer
[07:33] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[07:33] <notech> its just a mount point, it can be named anything
[07:33] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:33] <hrp2171> !codecs
[07:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:33] <alexicon> hrp2171: libmpeg3 libxine-extracodecs
[07:34] <hrp2171> alexicon: they dont come up as options to install.  even after enabling all the default repos
[07:34] <monad> hi... i have no idea what it was, but after having successfully configured fglrx and running it for two months, it'S awfully broken now
[07:34] <alexicon> you add multiverse apply > fetch updates
[07:34] <Zeti> the .disk/info contains Kubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft" - Release i386 (20061025)
[07:34] <monad> even running fglrxinfo gives hundreds of lines of [fglrx]  API ERROR:....
[07:34] <Zeti> is this info reliable?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> EightiesK,  try rightclickint on that drive icon and properties and change its name. ;)
[07:35] <wilhart> are there repos for kde4 for ubuntu ?
[07:36] <EightiesK> what does everyone use for im?
[07:36] <hrp2171> alexicon: i take it dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse is not the right one
[07:36] <Dr_willis> EightiesK,  IRC :)
[07:36] <EightiesK> i mean program
[07:36] <EightiesK> i use gaim on all platforms that i use
[07:37] <Dr_willis> You mean what IRC client to people use? thats not the same as an 'im' client
[07:37] <Dr_willis> I tend to use xchat for my irc needs
[07:37] <galathalion> hey
[07:37] <galathalion> is there any way to get different desktops like in gnome?
[07:37] <mc__> galathalion: what do you mean?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> galathalion,  like in gnome?
[07:38] <galathalion> mc__: well in kde u have 4 desktops u can switch between.. but not really.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> You refering to different "Desktop enviroments" like KDE/Icewm/XFCE/?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> or virtual desktops...
[07:38] <galathalion> multiple desktops
[07:38] <Dr_willis> I have 4 virtual desktops on my KDE setup at the moment.. can easially add more
[07:39] <galathalion> Dr_willis: yes those are the ones im talking about
[07:39] <galathalion> Dr_willis: but they are not working as i want to.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> up to 20 it seems.. according to the 'configure desktops' applet. :)
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i get the PID in konsole for my running programs
[07:39] <Dr_willis> galathalion,  so NOW we are getting to your actual question.........
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  ps command is oftenused for that.
[07:40] <Dr_willis> with the right options. :)
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> ...i don't have the opntion
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> err know the options
[07:40] <Dr_willis> man ps
[07:40] <hrp2171> cool! finally got that right!  added the word multiverse next to universe.  LOL
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: okay will try
[07:40] <galathalion> Dr_willis: its a little bit hard to explain with my english :S
[07:40] <Dr_willis> i tend to do a 'ps ax | grep whatevername'
[07:41] <galathalion> Dr_willis: when i open a program in one desktop it shows on the taskbar in _every_ desktop, i dont want that :<
[07:41] <pentadrago> hi
[07:41] <hrp2171> thanks alexicon
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> system monitor won out because i'm impatient
[07:42] <Dr_willis> galathalion,  thats a setting in the 'configure taskber' area -- explore all the settings.
[07:43] <galathalion> Dr_willis: oh great.. i found it now. thanks
[07:44] <Dr_willis> may want to enable the 'show windows list' option . that way you can get to the other apps on other desktops easier.. :)
[07:44] <Dr_willis> but still have them hidden
[07:47] <ehird> sometimes i see software never updated since like 2002
[07:47] <ehird> and the latest news post is just a regular new release post
[07:47] <ehird> and i think
[07:48] <ehird> "did they just forget about it or something? you know, forget about 3 years of making a WM... yeah... that's right..."
[07:49] <RoKFiT> is there a hotkey to hide the panel
[07:49] <poppemie> can someone help me with warzone for linux it runs but he didn't find the Physicial Fs....
[07:50] <Dr_willis> !info warzone
[07:50] <ubotu> Package warzone does not exist in any distro I know
[07:51] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[07:51] <poppemie> yes ubotu it exist
[07:51] <poppemie> I Ran it
[07:51] <RoKFiT> why can't i maximize windows behind a panel, or how do i fix it/
[07:51] <RoKFiT> ?
[07:52] <poppemie> #warzone
[07:52] <Dr_willis> In late 2004 warzone was released by its copyright holders, Eidos Interactve, to the public under the GNU General Public License (GPL),
[07:52] <Dr_willis> Heh google is fun
[07:52] <poppemie> how do i go to warzone? channel?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> RoKFiT,  you mean under the panel?
[07:52] <poppemie> yes
[07:52] <RoKFiT> yes
[07:54] <Dr_willis> RoKFiT,  you could just set the panels to auto hide.
[07:54] <Dr_willis> othereise you wont be seeing the bottom part.
[07:54] <RoKFiT> autohide is somehow annoying
[07:54] <Dr_willis> what you are trying to do sounds just as annoying. :)
[07:54] <lm> when trying to upgrad my system from dapper to edgy (just got my net back) it gives me the error that it cant fetch following things
[07:54] <lm> Failed to fetch http://xgl.compiz.info/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[07:55] <lm> Failed to fetch http://xgl.compiz.info/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[07:55] <RoKFiT> well i like to flick my mouse to corners to hit spots on windows, but i also like my taskbar up top
[07:55] <Dr_willis> RoKFiT,  you havent noticed the 'all other progrmas to cover the panel' setting eh?
[07:55] <trappist> lm: xgl.compiz.info is a fairly unreliable repo in my experience
[07:55] <lm> i tried playteing around with compiz long time ago and it went sour, and i havent used it since
[07:55] <lm> i know
[07:55] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. byeeee
[07:55] <lm> didnt get it to work either
[07:56] <lm> but how can i go around this error, so me system upgrades?
[07:56] <lm> becauses it just halts after this error
[07:56] <lm> and i cant upgrade
[07:56] <lm> any help? i would rather not have to delete the system and install from scratch
[07:58] <trappist> lm: remove xgl.compiz.info from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <lm> allright ill try
[07:59] <BluesKaj> compiz does damage upon removal , don't use autoremove like i did ...totally screwed the desktop
[08:00] <lm> is it enough if i just del the following:
[08:00] <lm> #compiz Quinn's
[08:00] <lm>    deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main
[08:00] <lm>    deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[08:00] <lm>    deb-src http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[08:00] <trappist> lm: yep
[08:00] <lm> ok
[08:01] <lm> yeah
[08:01] <Kresildefix> hi
[08:01] <Kresildefix> can someone help me??
[08:01] <lm> thanks for the help no errors... for now :D
[08:02] <BluesKaj> Kresildefix, just ask your question
[08:02] <Kresildefix> sure
[08:02] <Kresildefix> i cant use ALTGr
[08:04] <RoKFiT> allow other windows to cover the panel     ....   this option is nice, but when bottom of screen is hit, panel shows.   annoying!
[08:04] <RoKFiT> to me that is a bug
[08:04] <mortici> anyone here play EVE Online ?
[08:05] <uphill> hi
[08:05] <uphill> short help please
[08:05] <uphill> postgresql-81 hba.conf :)
[08:06] <trappist> you mean pg_hba.conf?
[08:06] <uphill> local   all         all                               trust
[08:06] <uphill> yes
[08:06] <trappist> what's your question
[08:06] <uphill> i put locall all all trust in first line, becouse i am the only user on this computer
[08:07] <uphill> and if a want to connexct with 'psql -Upostgres -dtemplate1' it wont work
[08:07] <trappist> uphill: try 'psql template1'
[08:07] <trappist> uphill: and, define 'wont work'
[08:07] <uphill> it write ident auth fails
[08:08] <trappist> uphill: have you restarted postgres?
[08:08] <uphill> and with the cmd you wrote me it writes Role 'root' does not exist
[08:08] <uphill> i have restarted
[08:08] <trappist> uphill: don't do this as root :)
[08:08] <uphill> any user failes
[08:08] <uphill> except the postgres user :)
[08:09] <trappist> uphill: can you pastebin your pg_hba.conf?
[08:09] <uphill> i will
[08:11] <uphill> oh shit
[08:11] <uphill> sorry
[08:11] <trappist> language please
[08:12] <malik__> hi guyz can some one tell me how to enable the sound icon in the task bar in kubuntu?.i was fiddling with settings n killing system processes n i dont know which one i did wrongly n now its gone.tho i still have the sound n its working.
[08:12] <uphill> but these config file has so much comments that i looked over a line
[08:12] <trappist> malik__: start 'kmix'
[08:12] <uphill> sorry for language
[08:12] <uphill> trappist: thx
[08:12] <trappist> uphill: you mean the ident sameuser line for the postgres user?
[08:13] <malik__> oooh lala .worked like charm...thanx heaps guyz
[08:13] <malik__> specially to trappist
[08:15] <malik__> one more thing how do i stop the applications from automatically starting which were open b4 i turned off the copmuter, when i login
[08:16] <malik__> ?
[08:17] <BluesKaj> malik__, you should shut the progs down before turning off the pc
[08:18] <trappist> malik__: in kcontrol or systemsettings, in session management, tell kde to start with an empty session or a previously saved session, but not the last session
[08:18] <ataxic> doesn't the desktop cd fit on a 700mb cd?
[08:19] <trappist> ataxic: I sure hope so
[08:19] <ataxic> trying a diiferent disc atm
[08:20] <malik__> great guyz.thanx alot.............i think i am being vindicated in decision of ditching win xp
[08:21] <malik__> first of all its free n second thing help channel like this is great
[08:21] <cloakable> :)
[08:21] <malik__> i am just a newbie...so dont mind me if i say something silly
[08:22] <ataxic> come on then
[08:22] <ataxic> say something silly
[08:23] <malik__> :).......................
[08:23] <vyoman> anybody knows what todays updates are fixing? anything serious or urgent?
[08:24] <malik__> well there are 54 of them amounting to almost 104 mb
[08:24] <malik__> i am currently downloading them
[08:26] <vyoman> c'mon 340+ nicks on the channel and no one can tell me if the updates can wait until monday?
[08:27] <malik__> well if u ask my opinion they can wait till monday but if u are running work computer then better do them now
[08:27] <malik__> better be safe than sorry ...........i wud say
[08:28] <vyoman> true true but if the updates break stuff, I could sit here all weekend ;)
[08:29] <bubu1uk> well, updates are mostly for GUI, so dont think anything that important
[08:30] <vyoman> thanks guys that all I needed to hear, some support to go home early! :)
[08:30] <malik__> updates break things?.................i didnt know that....................im new to linux n i have taken a plunge by ditching win xp............. so if any one can elaborate on that, that will be great
[08:32] <trappist> malik__: updates *can* break things, but in most cases they don't
[08:33] <vyoman> well it happened only once (this year) but yes it did happen and we need better information on the updates available, to make an informed decision
[08:34] <trappist> vyoman: the X updates weren't even for security
[08:35] <malik__> oooh okie.................... okie another questioni would like to ask is ......... how do i back up my home directory n restore it in newer version and what is the significance of it.........
[08:35] <vyoman> trappist: todays X updates?
[08:36] <trappist> vyoman: right
[08:37] <vyoman> cool, thanks, i am updating now :)
[08:41] <Ash-Fox> Hmm, what's with the X updates? I can't find them in USN? Is there some other mailing lsit I can subscribe to to find out update information?
[08:42] <Raffas> hi! i'm using kubuntu 6.10 on my latitude 510. The problem is that i can't see power maganement icon in System settings. Any ideas?
[08:45] <nemesis4u> hello all :-)
[08:46] <nemesis4u> Could anyone help me - I am trying to Rar a video 900meg into 50 meg rar files.... how? and is there a gui to do it as well?
[08:46] <notech> malik__: is /home on its own partition?
[08:48] <Flosoft> hey
[08:49] <Flosoft> how do I enable XDMCP?
[08:49] <raphink> Flosoft: in kdmrc
[08:49] <Flosoft> where is that?
[08:49] <raphink>  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[08:50] <nemesis4u> Could anyone help me - I am trying to Rar a video 900meg into 50 meg rar files.... how? and is there a gui to do it as well?
[08:50] <Flosoft> ok found it :)
[08:51] <raphink> why rar nemesis4u ?
[08:51] <nemesis4u> windows support
[08:51] <nemesis4u> what else could i use?
[08:51] <raphink> you can use zip
[08:51] <raphink> (or you can ignore windows support and use a real compression format)
[08:51] <nemesis4u> what is the app called and does it support splitting?
[08:51] <nemesis4u> :-) haha
[08:52] <raphink> for rar, the app is called rar
[08:52] <raphink> for zip, the app is called zip
[08:52] <nemesis4u> gui?
[08:52] <raphink> :p
[08:52] <raphink> ark is a gui for all compressions formats
[08:52] <nemesis4u> have you used ark to make multiple splits?
[08:52] <raphink> provided you have installed rar (free or nonfree) and zip
[08:52] <raphink> no
[08:52] <raphink> I never had too
[08:53] <nemesis4u> it does not work
[08:53] <nemesis4u> That is why i am looking for an app that splits the file
[08:53] <raphink> what does not work?
[08:54] <nemesis4u> ark for splitting
[08:54] <nemesis4u> it does not have an option anywhere
[08:54] <nemesis4u> nor does archive manager
[08:55] <majnoon> i have a problem ,php is not running on my apache2 it asks me to DOWNLOAD my index.php filephp
[08:55] <Raffas> majnoon: is php module loaded?
[08:56] <majnoon> i THINK so
[08:56] <majnoon> it is in the enabled mods
[08:57] <brz> hi everyone
[08:57] <mh> hello each and every one of u...
[08:57] <majnoon> Raffas: how do i make sure ??
[08:59] <notech> think it requires the php-http package
[09:00] <mh> can one ask questions here?
[09:00] <majnoon> go ahead
[09:00] <notech> sure
[09:00] <Raffas> majnoon: http://www.ducea.com/2006/05/30/managing-apache2-modules-the-debian-way/
[09:00] <Raffas> majnoon: maybe this helps a little :)
[09:01] <mh> how can one set the dns server from terminal?
[09:01] <julle> what do i write to delete a folder with subfolders in it?
[09:01] <Raffas> but still, what package creates the power magament icon in system settings?
[09:01] <raphink> mh: set it in /etc/resolv.conf or in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:02] <notech> julle:  rm -rf but be very careful, there is no way to recover it
[09:02] <Flosoft> hey
[09:02] <brz> ummm, can anyone tell me how to switch a default program? what I mean is when I rightclick on a file and chose actions-> email file the system wants to open kmail and I want thunderbird to do it
[09:02] <julle> notech: thx!
[09:02] <Flosoft> now I get this: XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling
[09:02] <brz> I tried Settings>kde elements (or whatever it is in English)>default programs
[09:03] <brz> but when the window opens the only thing I can do is click <ok> or <cancel>
[09:03] <brz> the window's blank, sort of
[09:03] <raphink> Flosoft: set Xaccess
[09:03] <majnoon> looking at it
[09:03] <Flosoft> how?
[09:03] <mh> thanks for answering my first question...the second is why does my harddisk seems to turn on and off while running linux?
[09:04] <raphink> Flosoft: by using your head
[09:04] <raphink> :)
[09:04] <raphink> it's in the same place
[09:04] <raphink> mh: how do you know?
[09:04] <Flosoft> like this: *                                       #any host can get a login window =?
[09:04] <raphink> yes
[09:04] <raphink> unless you want more restriction
[09:05] <Flosoft> ok ... now it doesn't get me any login screen :S
[09:06] <mh> the hard ticks and then works then ticks again and only in linux...everything is fine in windows
[09:07] <cpk1> what is a "tick"
[09:07] <raphink> what are  you doing Flosoft?
[09:07] <cpk1> besides the blood sucking insect
[09:07] <raphink> Flosoft: did you restart kdm and tried to log in from another machine using the remote option?
[09:07] <brz> anyone? ;]
[09:07] <Flosoft> I want to connect from an old Xubuntu machine to my Kubuntu Laptop
[09:07] <raphink> Flosoft: did you restart kdm on the laptop after changing all this?
[09:07] <Flosoft> maybe because the wifi is to weak?
[09:07] <Flosoft> yes
[09:08] <Flosoft> I did
[09:08] <Flosoft> the problem is something with the fonts :S
[09:08] <Flosoft> and wacom
[09:08] <cpk1> brz: use kcontrol
[09:08] <raphink> hmmm
[09:08] <mh> wat happens is the system pauses and the hard disk makes a sound (tick) and the system works again...any ideas?
[09:09] <raphink> only with linux mh?
[09:09] <mh> yes only in linux....not even once in windows
[09:10] <mh> this was happening to me even with mandrake and some other distros
[09:11] <brz> cpk1: it doesn't help
[09:12] <brz> I still get the same thing
[09:12] <unai> HOLA!!!
[09:12] <unai> Alguno puede ayudarme?
[09:13] <unai> Tengo problemas con la tarjeta de red...
[09:13] <unai> soy novato en linux
[09:13] <trappist> !pt | unai
[09:13] <ubotu> unai: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:13] <trappist> or is it
[09:13] <trappist> !es
[09:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:13] <trappist> can't tell
[09:13] <angasule> trappist: spanish
[09:13] <trappist> angasule: thanks :)
[09:14] <unai> Gracias
[09:14] <angasule> you're welcome
[09:16] <majnoon> no luck
[09:16] <majnoon> will TRY reinstall
[09:16] <judaz> Hey!
[09:16] <niblets> just upgraded dapper>edgy... now kdesu doesn't seem to do anything
[09:16] <judaz> I need some help with CARD EXPORT II on my TUNGSTEN E2 and mi Kubuntu edgy
[09:17] <judaz> niblets: i have the same problem, buy I installed Edgy just from de CD.. It may be a bug.. I'm not sure
[09:17] <niblets> hmm, interesting.
[09:18] <niblets> when I apt-get install kdesu, it's referred to by another package, but there's no installation candidate
[09:20] <malik__> .........................
[09:21] <raphink> niblets: kdesu is provided by kdebase-bin
[09:21] <raphink>  $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/kdesu
[09:21] <raphink> kdebase-bin: /usr/bin/kdesu
[09:21] <mh> so no one in the channel had any harddisk problems with linux?
[09:22] <malik__> .......................
[09:22] <unai> Alguno que quiera ayudarme? en kubuntu-es no me contestan
[09:23] <pentadrago> mh: did you check the dmesg output?
[09:23] <raphink> con que unai?
[09:23] <unai> hola raphink
[09:23] <raphink> hola
[09:23] <unai> tengo problemas con la tarjeta de red
[09:23] <unai> ahora mismo estoy con una pcmcia
[09:23] <raphink> mhm
[09:23] <redmonkey> ahem?!
[09:23] <unai> pero los problemas los tengo con la de la placa
[09:23] <niblets>  raphink: weird.. kdebase-bin is installed correctly, apparently
[09:24] <unai> me detecta la tarjeta de red, me la configura bien... pero no va.
[09:24] <raphink> de la placa?
[09:24] <unai> si la tarjeta que biene integrada en la placa
 the harddisk works just fine but it pauses (turns off) and reruns again..
[09:24] <raphink> sure niblets, what's the issue?
[09:24] <|GaiJin|> hmmm... are there any programs in linux that can use yahoo widgets??
[09:25] <pentadrago> mh: no problems with other OSes?
[09:25] <unai> raphink te importaria explicarmelo?
[09:25] <raphink> unai: puede ver la tarjeta con ifconfig?
[09:25] <mh>  <pentadrago> this problem didnt happen to me with any version of windows
[09:26] <niblets> raphink: when running kdesu, I get xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused
[09:26] <pentadrago> mh: sorry, i have no clue
[09:26] <unai> si
[09:26] <unai> y aparentemente todo esta bien
[09:26] <niblets> no protocol specified
 hey dude
[09:26] <judaz> hey, does anybody know how to make CARD EXPORT II FOR PALM OS work on edgy eft?
[09:27] <berniee> mh:hehe tha link didnt work
[09:27] <raphink> unai: wifi o ethernet red?
[09:27] <mh>  <berniee> wat does it say?
[09:27] <mh>  <pentadrago> could it be the dual sharing that cuzes this problem?
[09:28] <chimaera> speaking a language other than the channel-default might be considered rude. pls query or join the appropriate channel for that language, thanks.
 wat does it say dude?
[09:29] <unai> raphink, es ethernet integrada en placa... Portatil Acer aspire 1600
[09:29] <pentadrago> mh: sorry, I don't know it, some strange energy save mode?
[09:29] <berniee> it says deleted..
[09:30] <trappist> unai: /join #ubuntu-es por favor
 i hope i will find some other link...hold on...
[09:30] <trappist> unai: #ubuntu es por ingles no mas
[09:31] <trappist> or is that para
[09:31] <unai> esque ahi nadie me ayuda!!!
[09:31] <judaz> unai: que drama tenes?
[09:31] <unai> sino un privado...
[09:31] <unai> Problemas con la targeta de red
[09:31] <unai> En un portatil
[09:31] <trappist> judaz: please encourage unai to take the conversation to #kubuntu-es
[09:31] <raphink> trappist: no one helps him on #ubuntu-es
[09:31] <trappist> raphink: then judaz should join him there
[09:31] <judaz> trappist: Ok.. ill do that, the thing is that there is nobody there...
[09:32] <unai> judaz, quieres explicarmelo en un privado? que estos se mosquean conmigo...
[09:32] <trappist> judaz: so meet him there!
[09:32] <judaz> trappist: haha, i'm just a newbie, I don't know what to do..
[09:32] <trappist> judaz: nobody else here speaks spanish.
[09:32] <trappist> this is an english channel.
[09:32] <judaz> unai: entra a ubuntu-es
[09:32] <raphink> judaz: let's join both of us
[09:32] <unai> ok
[09:32] <raphink> and we can try it
[09:33] <judaz> he says he has a problem with his ethernet on his laptop
[09:33] <pentadrago> mh: nothing mentioned in the system logs? did you try checking the hdd with smart?
[09:34] <yelonek> sooo
[09:34] <yelonek> i got kubuntu
[09:34] <yelonek> :P
[09:34] <yelonek> what is interesting in this system ?
[09:35] <trappist> yelonek: depends what you like to do
[09:35] <yelonek> back in 90's i used to play with dos prompt line
[09:36] <yelonek> but i can't figure out any linux commad
[09:36] <cpk2> haha linux command line is nothing like dos prompt
[09:36] <yelonek> *command
[09:36] <redmonkey> if you just wanna play go back to windows:)
[09:36] <yelonek> so i see ;p
[09:36] <cpk2> you dont really need to use a terminal in ubuntu =)
[09:36] <yelonek> is there anything like Linux prompt for dummies ?
[09:37] <unix_infidel> yelonek: you'd be surprised how similar linux is to a dos command line.
[09:37] <trappist> yelonek: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[09:37] <icheyne> how do I find out exactly what type of RAM I need to buy to upgrade my PC?
[09:37] <pentadrago> whoo, the terminal (running bash of courde) is so much more powerful than the dos prompt
[09:37] <cpk2> a normal joe user should be able to be pretty terminal free
[09:37] <unix_infidel> i use unx utils in cmd and powershell regularly.
[09:37] <icheyne> I have tried lshw but it does not give me enough info
[09:37] <trappist> icheyne: you'll probably get better and more complete answers to that in #hardware
[09:37] <cpk2> icheyne: you could just look at the stick
[09:38] <trappist> I don't think linux is aware of the kind of ram your pc has/needs
[09:38] <unix_infidel> icheyne: bios should tell you what its rated at.
[09:38] <icheyne> trappist: hmm. What do you suggest - short of opening my box?
[09:38] <icheyne> the ram itself has nothing written on it
[09:38] <cpk2> icheyne: try sudo lshw
[09:38] <icheyne> I have looked for my mobo manual, but I can't find it
[09:38] <trappist> icheyne: I don't have anything short of opening your box, but the #hardware fellas might
[09:38] <yelonek> yeah, i know i should be terminal free
[09:39] <eilker>  i am gonna have  a dedicated server for my web sites, thinking of installing ubuntu-server, but i dont know how to manage it, because there will be no gui, scare of it...any experience with no gui envoriment ?
[09:39] <yelonek> but i wanted to get grip of basics
[09:39] <unix_infidel> icheyne: go into bios.
[09:39] <yelonek> ty trappist
[09:39] <cpk2> icheyne: actually it looks like sudo lshw still doesnt tell you the speed
[09:39] <trappist> yelonek: there's no virtue in being terminal-free :) the command line is your friend
[09:39] <yelonek> well, that's why i got kubuntu not any other linux
[09:40] <yelonek> i wanted it to be easy to use
[09:40] <cpk2> and i dont think i have seen a stick yet that doesnt have anything written on the stick
[09:40] <unix_infidel> yelonek:  I asked the same questions long ago.  "Getting started" with command line and reading about it....
[09:40] <trappist> yelonek: me too - but sometimes you can get more done on the command line.  it's good stuff to know.
[09:40] <unix_infidel> is REALLY no subsitute for finding a genuine use for it.
[09:40] <unix_infidel> and then practicing its usage.
[09:40] <cpk2> you could try a different distro that pretty much requires cli knowledge
[09:41] <cpk2> like slackware
[09:41] <cpk2> hooray!
[09:41] <unix_infidel> There's no need for that.  It'll teach you how to setup a linux system, not how to use it.
[09:41] <redmonkey> archlinux
[09:41] <yelonek> i'm not that interested in linux :P
[09:41] <yelonek> i just read an article about police knocking on some ppl door ;)
[09:42] <yelonek> checking if they got legal software
[09:42] <yelonek> i'm getting angry at microsoft
[09:42] <yelonek> cause there were rumors that they provided data about ppl who were checked
[09:43] <yelonek> ofcourse that wasn't true
[09:43] <yelonek> but the spokesman for ms "didn't confirm or denied"
[09:44] <redmonkey> uhm is this a linux channel? :)
[09:44] <cpk1> ##linux
[09:44] <yelonek> i got my xp with new computer
[09:44] <yelonek> and can get another one with msdn for free
[09:44] <unix_infidel> yelonek: That's besides the point.  You should spend your time using your OS.
[09:45] <lenscape> You've got to be stubborn or a bit dim to use Windows these days
[09:45] <yelonek> why ?
[09:45] <yelonek> xp is actually easy to use
[09:45] <yelonek> i got used to it
[09:45] <lenscape> because Linux is so much better and ALL the software is free!
[09:45] <yelonek> but i want to get used to linux ;p
[09:45] <cpk1> yelonek: i would suggest just trying to do mundane things with the command line to get used to it
[09:45] <trappist> lenscape, yelonek: this stuff is great for #kubuntu-offtopic, but this is a support channel
[09:46] <cpk1> do things like mv cp and rm
[09:46] <eilker> hi,  i am gonna have  a dedicated server for my web sites, thinking of installing ubuntu-server, but i dont know how to manage it, because there will be no gui, scare of it...any experience with no gui envoriment ?
[09:46] <unix_infidel> eilker: most all production servers are non-gui
[09:46] <trappist> eilker: plenty.
[09:47] <lenscape> trappist: I was helping a misguided soul!
[09:47] <reckiem> what stops u from using a GUI?
[09:47] <icheyne> !offtopic
[09:47] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:47] <unix_infidel> Remember, most if not all gui applications use the REVERSE dogma of what you've been exposed to.
[09:47] <eilker> unix_infidel: yes i know, but no experience with it, and scary...
[09:48] <unix_infidel> eilker: why, this is open source.  documentation is REALLY GOOD for server side software.
[09:48] <yelonek> trappist, so i better move to offtopic, thx
[09:48] <trappist> yelonek: thank you
[09:49] <redmonkey> eilker: is you are scared better ask someone to set up the server for you
[09:49] <redmonkey> err, if
[09:49] <eilker> unix_infidel: where is the documantation for it? inside the os ? (ubuntu-server)
[09:49] <cpk1> eilker: man programtoreadabout
[09:49] <eilker> redmonkey: that will not be my choice, i am gonna do it
[09:49] <unix_infidel> eilker: That depends on the specific server side stuff.
[09:49] <trappist> eilker: there's lots of documentation that ships with the various applications (web and database servers, etc.) and there's a lot more online.
[09:49] <trappist> eilker: there's also the ubuntu server guide
[09:50] <redmonkey> eilker: good luck
[09:50] <cpk1> eilker: there is nothing stopping you from using a gui to set up your server
[09:50] <eilker> trappsit: i have already read it..
[09:50] <unix_infidel> Side Note: #ubuntu-classroom will be hosting a session SPECIFICALLY devoted to Linux Administration.
[09:50] <unix_infidel> eilker: you might find that worth sitting in on.
[09:51] <cpk1> unix_infidel: when?
[09:51] <eilker> unix_infidel: thanx for it, i didnt know that room before
[09:52] <eilker> people i have already dns server, mail server, web server, ftp server , i tried for those in kubuntu, i
[09:52] <eilker> but i feel strange in no-gui enviroment...
[09:53] <jbruckman> has anyone seen the image of firefox melting IE with a flamethrower?
[09:53] <trappist> eilker: if you want to admin a server, you really need to learn your way around the command line and text-based config files and such
[09:54] <yannick> hi
[09:54] <eilker> trappist: can i use ssh in non-gui ?
[09:54] <cpk1> of course you can
[09:54] <gesc> salve
[09:54] <trappist> eilker: of course :)
[09:54] <ganjhack> Quelqu'un parle-il franais sur ce canal ?
[09:55] <trappist> !fr | ganjhack
[09:55] <ubotu> ganjhack: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:55] <ganjhack> tks
[09:56] <eilker> trappist: i use linux since september :d so that i dont know too much :)
[09:57] <trappist> eilker: well, like I said, if you want to admin a server, it's time to learn :)
[09:58] <lupul> hi there. is there anyway to make ATI driver run correctly on edgy?
[09:58] <lupul> !video driver
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <trappist> lupul: in what way is it running incorrectly
[09:59] <trappist> !ati | lupul
[09:59] <ubotu> lupul: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:59] <lupul> k thanks
[10:00] <eilker> trappist: life is in /etc... for linux, am i right ?
[10:00] <Bulwinkle> is there any way to get newer kernel and modules (i'm running 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:00] <trappist> eilker: config files, yeah
[10:01] <trappist> Bulwinkle: they generally don't put out new versions of kernels mid-release.  you'd have to look at feisty, which is unreleased and unstable, but where you'll find 2.6.19 kernels
[10:02] <trappist> Bulwinkle: or of course you could roll your own
[10:02] <Bulwinkle> trappist: Been there, done that, failed miserably
[10:02] <trappist> if at first you don't succeed...
[10:02] <chimaera> Bulwinkle: ss: you did something wrong..
[10:02] <Bulwinkle> trappist: don't blow up your laptop again :)
[10:03] <Bulwinkle> chimaera: obviously...  There are a couple of fixes to a couple of modules I'd like to get incorporated into my system
[10:03] <Bulwinkle> Easy way to do that?
[10:04] <chimaera> Bulwinkle: a) use proper documentation on ho to build a kernel on debian/ubuntu. b) google for inofficial kernel-repos, might also want to check the ubuntu wiki
[10:04] <Bulwinkle> chimaera: thanks for the help!
[10:05] <Bulwinkle> I'll probably just wait until feisty isn't so feisty
[10:05] <chimaera> Bulwinkle: actually, i didn't help in any way.
[10:05] <Bulwinkle> its only 4 months away
[10:06] <Bulwinkle> chimaera: I've seen you around, you usually don't... :)
[10:06] <chimaera> Bulwinkle: well, i don't think you have, but anyways.
[10:06] <trappist> now, now.
[10:07] <Bulwinkle> :)
[10:11] <angasule> !skim
[10:11] <ubotu> skim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1216 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[10:11] <velle> is it generally possible to open a file on a remote server from a program, using ssh? e.g. "myprogram myserver.dk:file.txt" (or something like that)? this would be an alternative to running ssh -X and executing the program on the remote server, which requires fast internet connections
[10:12] <chimaera> velle: as long as an kio_slave exists for that type, it shoukd be possible.
[10:12] <trappist> velle: yes
[10:12] <angasule> velle: yes, use the fish protocol, for example, in konqueror, put: fish://server.com  then you can log in, and open any file as if it were local
[10:12] <velle> how? (and im not hard core enough to know what a kio_slave is :) )
[10:13] <Frederick> folks how do I add the trash icon to my desktop?
[10:13] <trappist> velle: I just say ForwardX11 yes in my ~/.ssh/config, then ssh <host> <command>
[10:14] <velle> trappist: is that the same as ssh -X, or ...?
[10:14] <pedroca> kubuntu br
[10:14] <pedroca> como acesso?
[10:15] <trappist> velle: ForwardX11 yes is, yeah
[10:15] <trappist> !pt | pedroca
[10:15] <ubotu> pedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:15] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi
[10:16] <MalfermitaKodo> Can someone help me to make the < and > key work?
[10:16] <velle> trappist: but that requires a fast connection, and I dont have one, thats the prob :) and that way I need to have the application installed on the remote comp as well
[10:16] <trappist> velle: I like to use -c blowfish for that, because blowfish is a perfectly secure but much faster compression algorithm than the default, so it's faster for gui stuff
[10:17] <trappist> velle: well yeah.  that goes for any remote gui stuff (except maybe rdesktop)
[10:17] <Dan_Edin> how do i install the base build only from the ordinary shipit cds of ubuntu dapper?
[10:18] <Dan_Edin> in 5.10 i just typed server at bootup. But that option seems to not be available in dapper
[10:18] <trappist> Dan_Edin: don't quote me on it, but I think it's available on the 'alternate install cd'
[10:19] <Dan_Edin> trappist not on the deafult cds?
[10:20] <trappist> Dan_Edin: no
[10:20] <Dan_Edin> crap
[10:20] <Dan_Edin> why did they remove that? it was a really cool feature
[10:21] <trappist> Dan_Edin: it was sacrificed for features they figure most people will find even cooler
[10:21] <trappist> Dan_Edin: but I believe it is still available on the alternate cd
[10:23] <MalfermitaKodo> Can someone help me to make the < and > key work?
[10:23] <MalfermitaKodo> I c'n'ped this, but it's really annoing not the have them
[10:25] <Fragrag> How do I get streaming video on MPlayer?
[10:25] <Fragrag> wait, nevermind, I didn't read good enough??
[10:26] <Fragrag> ..*
[10:27] <Dasnipa`> what do you mean MalfermitaKodo ?
[10:29] <velle> the fish protocol (files transfered over shell) isnt a kde thing right? its general i think?
[10:29] <ccc> MalfermitaKodo: you can set your keyboard in system settings > regional & language > keyboard layout
[10:29] <MalfermitaKodo> yes, not helping
[10:30] <MalfermitaKodo> I have German, Esperanto and Latvian setting
[10:30] <MalfermitaKodo> in all, this key is not working
[10:32] <fon_Zograf>   ?
[10:33] <ccc> MalfermitaKodo: it must be set wrong then, it's probably set as something different than a 105-key or whatever you use.
[10:35] <MalfermitaKodo> ccc: I set it as the same as I did before
[10:36] <moS-uu> #ubuntu.de
[10:36] <moS-uu> #ubuntu-de
[10:37] <moS-uu> oops
[10:37] <MalfermitaKodo> !de | MalfermitaKodo
[10:37] <ubotu> MalfermitaKodo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:37] <moS-uu> join #ubuntu-de
[10:37] <moS-uu> mensch
[10:38] <angasule> can anyone tell me how to get skim to work?
[10:46] <Necros> Has anyone tried installing Automatix on Herd 1?
[10:47] <LjL> !automatix
[10:47] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:47] <MalfermitaKodo> !WorksForMe
[10:47] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:48] <Necros> Umm.. I'm not sure anyone running Herd 1 is looking for stability.
[10:48] <luis> hola
[10:49] <Jucato> hm... seems that easyubuntu is a bit (just a bit) more favored than automatix?
[10:49] <TheDebugger> Is it soooo hard to follow the guides on the website?
[10:50] <Necros> No, its just much, much faster to easyubuntu/automatix
[10:50] <Jucato> yes, much faster to possibly break your system too :) (at least when upgrading comes...)
[10:51] <Necros> I fresh install.. that way, I'm never searching for breaks
[10:51] <Necros> I build too much from source, and then the kernel gets all out of wack...
[10:51] <Necros> Ah well...
[10:51] <Schuenemann> hi, how do I install the amsn IM I just downloaded? file name is amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package
[10:51] <Necros> I'll do it the hard way
[10:53] <Schuenemann> anyone?
[10:56] <MalfermitaKodo> Schuenemann: .package????
[10:56] <Schuenemann> how do I install a .package file?
[10:56] <MalfermitaKodo> I have NEVER heard of that
[10:56] <Schuenemann> yeah...
[10:57] <Schuenemann> it's supposed to work in any distro
[10:58] <MalfermitaKodo> run a "file amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package" in shell
[10:58] <Schuenemann> how do I do that? ./amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package ?
[10:59] <Riddell> Kubuntu meeting time, in #ubuntu-meeting
[11:00] <Schuenemann> how do I run a shell script when it asks for su?
[11:00] <MalfermitaKodo> Can someone please tell me how I can correctly set my keyboard layout?
[11:00] <julle> is there any quicktime plugin availible for kubuntu? and wmp plugin 4 firefox?
[11:01] <yelonek> su = superuser ?
[11:01] <Schuenemann> yes
[11:02] <Schuenemann> ./filename says permission denied
[11:02] <MalfermitaKodo> su scriptname?
[11:02] <trappist> Schuenemann: sudo sh filename
[11:02] <MalfermitaKodo> right, sh, forgot that
[11:02] <trappist> not su
[11:02] <Schuenemann> me too... thank you
[11:02] <Schuenemann> sudo
[11:03] <Jucato> !sudo
[11:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:03] <MalfermitaKodo> one key is contantly not working :(
[11:05] <MalfermitaKodo> really annoys me :/
[11:07] <yelonek> what repository should i add to get gnuplot ?
[11:08] <Jucato> !gnuplot
[11:08] <ubotu> gnuplot: A command-line driven interactive plotting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.0.0-3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[11:08] <Jucato> yelonek: ^^^
[11:08] <Schuenemann> MalfermitaKodo: did you select the correct language and layout?
[11:08] <julle> Is there anyone who knows how to install mplayer webplugin?
[11:08] <yelonek> well, i still don't know ;p
[11:08] <yelonek> w8
[11:08] <yelonek> i'm getting it ;p
[11:08] <MalfermitaKodo> yes, the program tells me it uses "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout de -variant ro_nodeadkeys"
[11:09] <Jucato> " In component universe,..."
[11:09] <yelonek> Jucato: yeah, but how to to this ? ;) now i know
[11:10] <yelonek> Jucato: "uncomment following two lines to get ... from universe" gave me a tip
[11:12] <yelonek> well, i did that
[11:12] <yelonek> but can't find gnuplot anyway
[11:12] <MalfermitaKodo> ah I think I can make it no

[11:14] <Jucato> yelonek: Edgy or Dapper?
[11:14] <yelonek> Edgy
[11:14] <Jucato> hm.. universe should be enabled already by default
[11:14] <Jucato> how are you trying to install it?
[11:15] <bthibault> anybody know how to get the google toolbar to work
[11:15] <bthibault> FF 2.0
[11:15] <yelonek> i run Adept Manager
[11:15] <yelonek> with root rights
[11:16] <yelonek> then i uncommented two lines under string: "uncomment to get universe"
[11:16] <yelonek> after that apply, close
[11:16] <yelonek> then search: gnuplot
[11:16] <yelonek> after that just plot
[11:17] <Jucato> you have to click on "Fetch Updates"
[11:17] <Jucato> first
[11:17] <yelonek> and it finds kmplot and sth with perl
[11:18] <yelonek> lol, that easy ? ;)
[11:19] <MalfermitaKodo> oh, BTW: what can I use now to install stuff?
[11:19] <MalfermitaKodo> Do I really need to get used to synaptic?
[11:20] <Jucato> yelonek: were you able to find it?
[11:20] <cpk1> how do you check if dma is enabled or not again?
[11:21] <redmonkey> with hdparm
[11:21] <yelonek> Jucato: i'm still dling
[11:21] <Jucato> ok
[11:21] <redmonkey> but dont ask me for the parameters.. just man hdparm
[11:21] <Jucato> heh
[11:23] <cpk1> thats what i've been doing... i was hoping there was an easy to read config file
[11:23] <Jucato> (google)
[11:24] <Jucato> sudo hdparm -d /dev/xxxx I think
[11:24] <trappist> and -d1 to turn it on
[11:25] <ehird> :/ nedit won't start on kubuntu
[11:25] <ehird> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[11:25] <ehird>   Major opcode of failed request:  70 (X_PolyFillRectangle)
[11:25] <ehird>   Serial number of failed request:  382
[11:25] <ehird>   Current serial number in output stream:  392
[11:25] <yelonek> thanks Jucato, i found gnuplot and even more
[11:26] <Jucato> np :)
[11:26] <cpk1> hmm -d didnt output anything...
[11:28] <trappist> cpk1: what was the exact command you used
[11:28] <cpk1> trappist: sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda1
[11:28] <redmonkey> sometimes i ask myself why there are manpages at all..
[11:28] <trappist> cpk1: I don't think hdparm works on scsi devices, but if it does, you need sda not sda1
[11:29] <Jucato> redmonkey: they are there for admins :)
[11:29] <redmonkey> oh well, bye
[11:29] <redmonkey> ;)
[11:30] <trappist> cpk1: that is, dma applies to the drive, not the partition
[11:30] <cpk1> hmm yeah maybe it doesnt work for sata, it says it only works for ata/ide
[11:31] <cpk1> but i can still set my root mount i suppose
[11:31] <cpk1> is -d supposed to output anything?
[11:34] <trappist> cpk1: yes, if you run it against an ide drive
[11:35] <cpk1> wow, if these buffer tests are to be trusted my sata is a bit faster than my ide (more than i would have expected)
[11:36] <rindolf> Hi all.
[11:36] <Schuenemann> using konqueror to list a local directory, how do I make it list hidden files?
[11:36] <ehird> hmm
[11:36] <ehird> i've found a bug in the package dependencies
[11:36] <rindolf> Can anyone see if he or she can reproduce http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=27528 ?
[11:36] <ehird> vim and emacs don't cause a collision :)
[11:37] <ehird> it's possible to have them both installed at the same time
[11:37] <ehird> :D
[11:37] <Jucato> Schuenemann: View menu -> Show Hidden Files
[11:38] <Schuenemann> that was really a silly question
[11:38] <Schuenemann> thanks
[11:44] <max_> how do you partition off part of your harddrive to do a dual boot?
[11:46] <yelonek> meh, command line isn't my forte
[11:46] <yelonek> xp killed my prompt line skills ;)
[11:46] <max_> haha
[11:47] <max_> ive never used XP
[11:47] <max_> i used 98 when i did use Win
[11:48] <yelonek> yeah, i used 98 too, then i turned to the dark side
[11:48] <yelonek> which was comfortable, but made me lazy
[11:48] <max_> haha
[11:48] <max_> i think its funny how microsoft is screwing itself over with Vista
[11:49] <max_> the lasthing i heard about Vista was its "User Friendly Generic Error Messages" where every error displays the same screen, so it dosnt give you a clue to whats wrong
[11:51] <rindolf> max_: can you try to reproduce http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=27528 on Kubuntu?
[11:51] <reckiem> fake linux integrism
[11:52] <DrCub> How are you supposed to start KDE?
[11:53] <max_> rindolf: i cant help you, i dont know anything about that
[11:53] <leileiloll> startx?
[11:53] <DrCub> I tried, it didn't start
[11:53] <DrCub> It gave me an error
[11:53] <rindolf> max_: anything about what?
[11:53] <DrCub> It said No screens sound
[11:54] <max_> rindolf: kmail
[11:54] <rindolf> max_: OK.
[11:54] <Dan_Edin> is there a netinstall iso of ubuntu somewhere?
[11:56] <DrCub> It also says No device is detected
[11:56] <yelonek> thx for your help
[11:58] <max_> anyone ever used Mint Linux?
[12:02] <heinkel_111> how on earth do i find out what kernel i really am using? i mean how, in kubuntu?
[12:02] <heinkel_111> uname -r just prints out version number and then "generic"
[12:03] <heinkel_111> in dapper i used to get which processor type was attached as well
[12:03] <heinkel_111> ie, i686, i386 etc
[12:03] <angasule> heinkel_111: uname -a
[12:03] <angasule> heinkel_111: man uname, too
[12:05] <heinkel_111> thank yiou :)
[12:06] <angasule> you're welcome
[12:07] <flaccid> good old kubuntu
[12:07] <MalfermitaKodo> Why does it no longer find adept?
[12:08] <DrCub> Not to be rude or anything, but can you guys please answer the question I asked, I'm in a bit of a hurry
[12:08] <MalfermitaKodo> startx kde
[12:08] <MalfermitaKodo> or what?
[12:09] <DrCub> should I try that?
[12:09] <MalfermitaKodo> if you are in text-ode, yes
[12:09] <Jucato> startkde
[12:09] <MalfermitaKodo> *mode
[12:09] <DrCub> ok thanks
[12:09] <mducharme> DrCub: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:09] <DrCub> hold on I'll try it
[12:09] <Jucato> mducharme's answer is more correct, afaik
[12:10] <DrCub> ok
[12:12] <ailean> doesn't /proc/pci exist any more?
[12:13] <angasule> ailean: /proc/bus/pci ?