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[06:30] <jme> efox: presumably that's a command-line client like irrsi, embedded into a shell on the desktop
[06:30] <scanner_X> hey, can I install windows media player 9 or 10 on ubuntu with wine?
[06:30] <Glimmerati> the experience with totem is so..bad...totem doesnt support anyting.....not mp3, dat, mpg, anything i want to play
[06:30] <jbalint> what package the man pages for C functions are int?????????
[06:30] <Warbo> garryf: I am not in GNOME, so it won't automaount, but there are no partitions visible in /dev
[06:31] <Warbo> scanner_X: No, there are detectors built in which find WINE and stop you
[06:31] <efox> jme: so if i want to get that appearance, i would need irrsi ? Currently im using xchat and its ok, but i want it to be visually pleasing =)
[06:31] <cntb> what sources .lst is recommended if I need numlockx? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[06:31] <Back_Space> anyone help me out with setting up a mail prosessor
[06:31] <scanner_X> Warbo: what do you mean?  yes i can, or not i cant?
[06:31] <Warbo> scanner_X: "This program can only be installed in a 32bot Windows environment" then it closes
[06:31] <jme> efox: you'd need a command line IRC client
[06:31] <stromham> Gobotu: search codecs needed to watch all movie formats on ubuntu
[06:31] <Gobotu> codecs needed to watch all movie formats on ubuntu: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[06:31] <jme> there are several available
[06:31] <garryf> Warbo I do it in gnome in Ubuntu all the time. Even worked in breezy. It should not be giving you such grief, I do think I prefer kde tho.
[06:31] <scanner_X> so...no?
[06:31] <Warbo> scanner_X: WINE can do it, M$ stop you
[06:32] <Cornellius> How to know which kernel version we're using ?
[06:32] <scanner_X> o, okay, so i cant
[06:32] <fdsd> ic56, awk -F":" '{ print $4 " " $1 }' /etc/passwd I got this so far, it gives me line 4 and line 1, with a space, but it spits out everything, I just need lines 20 and 30
[06:32] <jme> Cornellius: uname -r
[06:32] <garryf> Erm, there must be a linux version of realplayer 10, because It comes installed by default in Suse
[06:32] <NateBHere> Hello, can anyone help me install JRE 5.  I just am not understanding  please help
[06:32] <Warbo> garryf: You honestly don't want to know what GUI I am using. Anyway, a console should be able to mount it, but there is nothing to mount (I even tried the MAKEDEV script in /dev)
[06:32] <stromham> Gobotu: how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu
[06:32] <stromham> Gobotu: search how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu
[06:32] <Gobotu> how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu: http://forums.linuxiso.org/viewtopic.php?p=125937&highlight=
[06:33] <garryf> Nods Ok.
[06:33] <Raul654> Stromham - I think that worked
[06:33] <stromham> Gobotu: search how to install jre 5 on ubuntu
[06:33] <Warbo> I am guessing Gobotu is a bot?
[06:33] <Gobotu> how to install jre 5 on ubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:33] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham?
[06:33] <Gobotu> stromham is my master
[06:33] <element> what's the deal with Goobuntu?
[06:33] <jbalint> what package the man pages for C functions are in?
[06:34] <Cornellius> Gobotu: Already got my answer.
[06:34] <scanner_X> has anyone installed iTunes with wine?
[06:34] <stromham> Gobotu: Botsnack
[06:34] <Gobotu> stromham: schweet!
[06:34] <Warbo> I would say "uname -r" not "how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu: http://forums.linuxiso.org/viewtopic.php?p=125937&highlight=" :)
[06:34] <stromham> warbo did he help you out?
[06:34] <hyphenated> stromham: you should do that kind of playing in #debian-bots
[06:35] <stromham> he is here to help
[06:35] <stromham> and so far he has
[06:35] <hyphenated> botsnack is hardly helping
[06:35] <Warbo> stromham: No. Take away his botsnack
[06:35] <stromham> no but scroll up and see that he help rual and others
[06:35] <stromham> i was rewarding him
[06:36] <GigaClon> by sending people to ubuntuguide
[06:36] <GigaClon> !ubuntuguide
[06:36] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[06:36] <darkyoshi372> #macosx
[06:36] <Warbo> Ha. That stopped your argument :)
[06:36] <stromham> its what the search pulled up
[06:36] <gdb> stromham: I think the point is that this channel already has an "offical" infobot and playing with your personal one here is inappropriate.
[06:36] <stromham> i was not playing
[06:36] <stromham> and i shall use him less then
[06:36] <gdb> Ok, running your personal one here is inappropriate.
[06:37] <ic56> fdsd: ok, if you're dealing in words, awk is an easier tool.  How to ouptut the 2nd and 3rd words of the 20th and 30th lines:  awk -F: 'NR == 20 || NR == 30 {print $3 " " $2}' /etc/passwd
[06:37] <hyphenated> if your delusions make you think giving it a botsnack isn't playing, then feel free to have that delusion elsewhere
[06:37] <GigaClon> Oh Seveas
[06:37] <GigaClon> b&
[06:37] <stromham> i gave him one botsnack
[06:37] <stromham> scroll up he was working before then
[06:37] <hyphenated> and made him call you his master. great help
[06:37] <intelligi> How do I put the trash on the desktop?
[06:37] <fdsd> ic56, ah okay
[06:37] <cntb> what is  who is Gobotu ?
[06:37] <Warbo> ubotu: Botsnack
[06:37] <Patrick_> hey all, is it possible to access the session "startup" options through terminal?
[06:37] <stromham> ubotu is a differnt type of bot
[06:38] <Warbo> Just trying to make it even :)
[06:38] <bobcat190> can you put ubuntu on a 2gig hdd?
[06:38] <stromham> yes
[06:38] <stromham> patrick_ yes
[06:38] <Patrick_> how so?
[06:38] <bobcat190> really?
[06:38] <bimberi> bobcat190: yes
[06:38] <Warbo> bobcat190: Yes, do a server install then add what you want
[06:38] <garryf> stromham I visited another channel and found that tho the folks here are helpful, they sure get uptight over little things. Isee no harm in experimenting. I bet they woudn't gripe in solaris
[06:38] <stromham> There is a guide on the forums
[06:38] <Patrick_> stromham, you remember yesterday how I was messing with XGL...well...lol
[06:38] <intelligi> How do I put the trash bin on the desktop?
[06:38] <ic56> fdsd: why are you picking lines from /etc/passwd numerically?  Why not based on the value of a field?
[06:38] <stromham> yea
[06:38] <gdb> We don't care.  You're running a personal bot here.  It's inappropriate.  This is an official Ubuntu support channel that has an official Ubuntu bot.  We do not care that your bot is different.  We do not care that your bot is helpful.  We do not care that you will "use him less".  It's unappropriate to run a personal bot on a channel that doesn't belong to you.
[06:38] <stromham> patrick check my pal
[06:38] <Patrick_> stromham, do you know off hand?
[06:38] <Patrick_> your what?
[06:38] <bobcat190> when i try is says that i ran out of space
[06:39] <NateBHere> I tried the wiki it doesn't do anything.  I've tried to follow the instructions given by Sun.  they make no sence
[06:39] <garryf> I'd pull my hair out over little infractions, but I'm bald.
[06:39] <stromham> Gobotu: say hi!
[06:39] <Warbo> intelligi: System Tools>Configuration Editor
[06:39] <gdb> s/unappropriate/inappropriate/
[06:39] <bobcat190> can some one that knows something plz pm me
[06:39] <stromham> i have full rights to do what i want
[06:39] <intelligi> Where is System Tools?
[06:39] <stromham> its my rights
[06:39] <stromham> in the usa
[06:39] <fdsd> ic56, because I was just using /etc/passwd as an example, I have other applications for this
[06:39] <Warbo> intelligi: Applications menu in GNOME
[06:40] <gdb> Ah, I see, so you're 12 and have never taken a civics class.  I'll let the ops deal with  you.
[06:40] <Patrick_> stromham, do you know  how to do that off hand?
[06:40] <Warbo> stromham: You are on my monitor in the UK. Get off now!
[06:40] <intelligi> It isn't there.
[06:40] <stromham> ?
[06:40] <t4ken> does anyone here play magic the gathering?
[06:40] <stromham> i used to
[06:40] <Warbo> intelligi: Applications>Accessories>Alacarte
[06:40] <t4ken> why did you stop?
[06:40] <scanner_X> Warbo, I just tried installing iTunes with wine, and I got this error: 1608: Unable to create InstallDriver instance, Return Code: -2147221021
[06:40] <stromham> patrick_ go to #goubuntu and i will tell you
[06:41] <Warbo> scanner_X: I don;t understand those eroors sorry
[06:41] <garryf> er, its actually a privelege to use this channel. tho I won't have apoplexy over a few uses of a bot.
[06:41] <scanner_X> well, is there something I should know when installing iTunes with wine?
[06:41] <jrattner1> If i have just completed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl and followed the directions, should I be able to start XGL without compwiz
[06:41] <PHZN> t4ken:  might I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic for any discussion that is not related to ubuntu
[06:41] <hyphenated> scanner_X: ask the wine guys in #winehq
[06:41] <scanner_X> oaky
[06:42] <cntb> is UMAX scanner Astra 3400 OK for UBUNTU6.06 ?
[06:42] <t4ken> didnt mean to bother you sorry
[06:42] <Warbo> Does running XGL with a regular window manager give you Composit?
[06:42] <bimberi> !scanner
[06:42] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka.  Only the original programmer knows what that number means.
[06:43] <bimberi> cntb: np :)
[06:43] <intelligi> Well, how, Warbo?
[06:43] <garryf> I bet it means "Error Occurred"
[06:43] <Warbo> intelligi: Erm. By dragging it? I don;t know but there is no point asking "can I" when you may as well have a go
[06:44] <intelligi> Well, what do I do?
[06:45] <NateBHere> Hello, I'm realy new at using a Linux OS.  I am having a problem getting the JRE 5 installed.  I've tried to follow and make sence out of the installation instructions but I am getting hung up.  I'm sorry but I'm sure that there is some one here that is willing to help me and understands that I am use to installing software by simply D-clicking the "Setup" or "Install" icon.  Please some one help me understand the installation manual for
[06:45] <Warbo> intelligi: The way I was going to suggest it to use Alacarte to turn on the Configuration Editor, then open it and go apps>nautilus>desktop and turn on the trash icon
[06:45] <stromham> Gobotu, msg NateBHere search how to install jre 5
[06:45] <Warbo> NateBHere: Do you have Universe on?
[06:45] <gdb> Sun Java is in Multiverse.
[06:46] <Warbo> OK then, Multiverse :)
[06:46] <Draconicus> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~thehap/glitch/Ubuntu64.png
[06:46] <squareyes> afternoon all
[06:46] <gdb> Warbo: Oh, no worries, just pointing it out.
[06:46] <eFoX> I just found out about "cron" and im trying to practice with it, however, when i make the changes in my crontab, nothing happens
[06:46] <NateBHere> I think that I have it installed but now I need to get it associated with fire fox so that it works.
[06:46] <t4ken> stromham how do you make bots?
[06:47] <gdb> NateBHere: If you installed the Ubuntu packages for it, you simply need sun-java5-plugin
[06:47] <bobcat190> how do you do a server install?
[06:47] <Warbo> NateBHere: Maybe install "galternatives" and set the default Java to use?
[06:47] <tct> can I upgrade the packages in ubuntu by editing /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the debian testing packages?
[06:48] <intelligi> Ok, got it. Thanks Warbo.
[06:48] <bobcat190> can i install ubuntu from live cd to a 2gig hdd?
[06:48] <bimberi> tct: no, that's probably going to break your system
[06:48] <squareyes> Am having probs getting an external modem to go past initialise. machine has a winmodem that I can't get working. so plugged in my external modem that works fine on my machine, setup with pppconfig, but can't get past initialse
[06:49] <bimberi> tct: and if you're on dapper you'll have mostly later versions than debian testing anyway
[06:49] <Warbo> squareyes: I use gnome-ppp to do that stuff
[06:49] <tct> bimberi : so how do I goabout upgrading it to testing?
[06:49] <efox> crap. got disconn'd. Could anyone help me get cron working...just to do anything, so i know how ti configure it
[06:49] <Warbo> tct: Format, install Debian
[06:49] <tct> dapper?
[06:49] <bimberi> !dapper
[06:49] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[06:49] <dooglus> efox: you want to run stuff as root or as your user?
[06:49] <tct> I have a 6.06 live cd
[06:49] <NateBHere> I simply need.....  do you not understand I'm a microtard.  Simply means to me D-click on something.  If I'm going to understand anything it needs to be explained in quite a bit more detail.
[06:49] <squareyes> tried the graphic setup same result, always used pppconfig with no probs
[06:49] <Warbo> tct: Ubuntu is not Debian. If you want to switch then format your drive
[06:49] <efox> dooglus: as a user for now, and later as root
[06:50] <stromham> NateBHere install easybuntu
[06:50] <stromham> it will do it all for you
[06:50] <efox> dooglus: for the sake of a test, i wanted firefox to open every minute, but when i tried to do it, nothing happened
[06:50] <stromham> just search it in synaptic
[06:50] <Warbo> Easyubuntu does Sun Java now?
[06:50] <tct> Warbo : I just want a userfriendly up-to-date linux distro that is debian based
[06:50] <stromham> yes
[06:50] <dooglus> efox: run "crontab -e" to edit your crontab.  put a line in there saying "* * * * * ls > /tmp/ls.txt"
[06:51] <Warbo> tct: Then use Ubuntu. Whay the hell were you asking about Debian testing?
[06:51] <stromham> tct: use kbuntu ubuntu xbuntu
[06:51] <dooglus> efox: (without the quotes)
[06:51] <Healot> !info sun-java5
[06:51] <ubotu> Package sun-java5 does not exist in dapper
[06:51] <Healot> !info sun-java5-nonfree
[06:51] <ubotu> Package sun-java5-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[06:51] <dooglus> efox: then, once per minute, cron will run "ls" and put the output into /tmp/ls.txt
[06:51] <Raul654> one more quick question
[06:51] <NateBHere> Never heard of that one.  besides it wont teach me anything.  I want to gain some knowledge on how to do this.
[06:51] <efox> dooglus:  ok let me give that a shot
[06:51] <dooglus> efox: run "man 5 crontab" to read what those 5 stars mean, and how to make it run less often
[06:51] <Raul654> what is the ifconfig command to renew eth0's DHCP?
[06:51] <bimberi> !info sun-java5-jre
[06:51] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[06:51] <efox> dooglus: i know what they are
[06:52] <efox> dooglus: i did the readin before...i just couldnt get firefox to open every minute.
[06:52] <tct> Warbo : I want to use the latest version of a particular piece of software and I dont want to have to deal with upgrading packages
[06:52] <tct> especially libc6
[06:52] <efox> dooglus: let me try this and i'll try and work it from there. but let me ask you...if i had did 1 * * * *, would that do it every hour as well ?
[06:53] <efox> dooglus: sorry, every minute i mean
[06:53] <bimberi> Raul654: try 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0' (a guess)
[06:53] <Warbo> tct: Ubuntu Dapper is the latest Ubutnu ,Debian Sarge is the latest Debian. Debian also has testing and unstable if you are into that sort of thing, but I find Ubuntu generally has more up to date software then Debian (especially just after a release)
[06:53] <NateBHere> ubotu - so how do I get to this repository ad how do I use it when I get there.
[06:53] <dooglus> efox: you wouldn't expect any X apps to work
[06:53] <bimberi> Raul654: er, use 'sudo's with
[06:53] <Warbo> NateBHere: ubotu is a robot :)
[06:53] <NateBHere> oh
[06:53] <bimberi> !multiverse > NateBHere
[06:53] <efox> dooglus: oh really ?
[06:53] <tct> Warbo ok I am going to do an install now
[06:54] <dooglus> efox: the first place is the minutes place.  "1 * * * *" would run at 1 minute past each hour
[06:54] <spades> try */1 * * * *
[06:54] <spades> for every minute
[06:54] <dooglus> efox: the X server is configured not to let people talk to it unless they are authenticated to do so.  check your environment for "XAUTHORITY"
[06:55] <Warbo> I'm going to try my USB stick again. If I am back in a minute then you will know why
[06:55] <dooglus> spades: * is the same as */1
[06:55] <spades> placebo
[06:56] <NateBHere> Lets see I've been using windows since 3.11.  I just decided to go all out and try Linux Yesterday.  If I am to understand anything I need a little help what is "Multiverse>"
[06:56] <efox> dooglus: so if i can enable that XAUTHORITY, i can control any X app ?
[06:57] <tanath> my vlc won't play streaming ogg vorbis, but it'll play local ogg files. can anyone help?
[06:57] <efox> dooglus: what i would really like to do is do a routine back up (which i kno can be done) and then upload it to a server (which im unsure of rigt now)
[06:57] <megatronn1> i have an install shell script here, how can i run it?
[06:57] <spades> sh file.sh
[06:57] <megatronn1> thanks
[06:58] <NickGarvey> !multiverse > NateBHere
[06:58] <megatronn1>  shit, how do i get root in term?
[06:58] <NickGarvey> oh wait a second..
[06:58] <NickGarvey> someone already did that
[06:58] <NickGarvey> !language
[06:58] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:58] <NickGarvey> !root > megatronn1
[06:58] <megatronn1> O____O
[06:59] <dooglus> efox: you need DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY to talk to an X server.
[06:59] <efox> dooglus: I did the /tmp/ls.txt as a test, however I have a question on its operation. The entire contents are that of my /home directory. I tried going to another directory but each minute it copes my home directory, is that right ?
[06:59] <dooglus> efox: cron runs a new shell each minute.  the shell is run in your home directory.
[06:59] <dooglus> efox: you 'cd-ing' in your terminal is a different shell, so it doesn't affect cron
[06:59] <efox> dooglus: gotcha. ok
[07:00] <megatronn1> how do i get root in term?
[07:00] <spades> sudo -i
[07:00] <spades> or -s
[07:00] <spades> or sudo su
[07:00] <dooglus> or sudo sudo sudo su
[07:00] <varsendaggr> !sudo
[07:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:00] <megatronn1> oohhhhhhhhh
[07:01] <efox> dooglus: thanks
[07:01] <megatronn1> that's what that is
[07:01] <megatronn1> so i can put sudo in front of any command and it will run it as root?
[07:01] <tanath> if you're in the sudoers list
[07:01] <dooglus> efox: if you switch to a virtual terminal and try running X apps from there, you'll be in an enviroment much like your cron jobs run in.
[07:01] <tanath> !su
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about su
[07:01] <dooglus> efox: so if you can manage to run firefox from a virtual terminal, you'll be able to do it from cron, too
[07:02] <efox> dooglus: ok. I dont play around with the virtual terminals too much, but i hear they are quite useful. I'm still learning the ropes. I'm a new user to linux
[07:03] <efox> dooglus: if i wanted to run cron as root, would i simply have to login in as root and then modify the crontab ?
[07:03] <NateBHere> So am I to understand that the  Synaptic Package Manager is what I need to use to get JRE 5.0 installed?
[07:03] <dooglus> efox: the first thing to learn is how to get back to GNOME!  it's not unusal to tell someone how to switch to the virtual terminal here, and they do it without know how to un-switch...  :)
[07:03] <efox> alt f7 if im not mistaken
[07:03] <intelligi> Is there anyway to use hotmail like you could in OutLook Express in Linux?
[07:03] <tanath> ctr+alt+f7
[07:03] <dooglus> efox: it's simpler for root - there are directories /etc/cron.hourly and such like
[07:04] <dooglus> efox: you can put shell scripts in there and they'll be run hourly
[07:04] <NateBHere> thunder bird  Woo hoo I knew that one
[07:04] <dooglus> efox: you can use "crontab -e" if you want to, but /etc/cron.weekly is easier
[07:04] <efox> tanath: ya something like that. I remember someone told me to press someehing and how to get back, but i didnt pay too much attention to how to get back, but i knew it was something f7. Figured it out after a while..lol
[07:04] <dooglus> efox: that's right alt-f7.  no control required.
[07:04] <efox> oh
[07:05] <efox> so i WAS RIGHT
[07:05] <efox> lol
[07:05] <dooglus> heh
[07:05] <tanath> lol
[07:05] <dooglus> efox: control-alt-f[1-6]  to switch out of GNOME to a virtual terminal
[07:06] <efox> dooglus: ok thanks for the help. I think you've given me enuff for now to play around with petty commands.Once i get the hang of this thing, i can start backin up data and uploading...now for that do i need xauthority and server ?
[07:06] <dooglus> efox: but also, just doing a "su - efox" in a terminal will have much the same effect, in that it will remove your XAUTHORITY, DISPLAY, and such like
[07:06] <efox> dooglus: is that essentially for multitasking ?
[07:06] <dooglus> efox: what?
[07:06] <malv> is libmad legal in the US?
[07:06] <efox> dooglus: the virtual terminals
[07:07] <dooglus> efox: virtual terminals aren't essential for anything much.  it's just something you can use if you can't / don't want to use X
[07:07] <efox> dooglus: again i dont do anything really hardcore, so i just open like 3-4 terminals so i dont get things messed up
[07:07] <efox> dooglus: oh ic
[07:07] <dooglus> efox: you can run multiple terminals inside gnome (or have multiple tabs in a single terminal) to multi-task
[07:07] <NickGarvey> use screen!
[07:07] <NickGarvey> gnu screen!
[07:08] <efox> dooglus: ya thats what i do now...cool
[07:08] <dooglus> screen is great, yes.
[07:08] <efox> dooglus: ok, im gonna play around with this for a bit..thanks for the help
[07:08] <dooglus> efox: the reason I mention virtual terminals is that they have the same 'broken X' look and feel as your attempts to run firefox from a crontab
[07:09] <novato_ubuntu> hallo there!
[07:09] <dooglus> hi
[07:09] <varsendaggr> ha i remember seeing a wiki to emulate windows using vmplayer  and qemu... now it is gone, doesn anyont know a link to that ?
[07:10] <novato_ubuntu> does anyone know the minimal requirements for installing the latest Ubuntu version?
[07:10] <Paladine> anyone know who i can fix this - (process:13632): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[07:10] <freakabcd> does anyone know where the heck evolution stores its mailbox config?
[07:10] <Paladine> s/who/how
[07:10] <freakabcd> i tried rm -rf .evolution; and next time i start it gets created with the old config!!
[07:10] <dooglus> freakabcd: what do you mean by 'mailbox config'?
[07:11] <freakabcd> dooglus, as in what imap server to use and folders in that what folders are subscribed to, etc.
[07:11] <tanath> vlc won't play streaming ogg vorbis, but it'll play local ogg files. can anyone help?
[07:11] <dooglus> freakabcd: oh, I see.  just a mo.
[07:12] <revilo> anyone managed to get Adobe Photoshop running with wine on Kubuntu Dapper? either version 7, CS or CS2?
[07:13] <novato_ubuntu> minimum requirements for Drapper?
[07:13] <novato_ubuntu> anyone?
[07:13] <revilo> 256MB RAM and 2GB HDD space according to the ship it CD covers
[07:13] <tanath> novato_ubuntu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Hardware_requirements
[07:14] <novato_ubuntu> hum.. and processor?
[07:14] <novato_ubuntu> oh, let me see the link..
[07:14] <freakabcd> dooglus, any luck? this is driving me insane! i want it to start 'fresh' the same way ti ran the very first time i ran evolution (i.e. without any configuration)
[07:14] <dooglus> freakabcd: no, not yet
[07:14] <freakabcd> and somehow magically it keeps getting back the same old crap config :(
[07:14] <eythian> novato_ubuntu: it runs well enough on a celeron 500, if oyu don't push it too hard.
[07:15] <rak_> any recommendations on an ftp server program?
[07:15] <eythian> freakabcd: look through gconf?
[07:15] <NickGarvey> rak_: proftpd is what I use
[07:15] <NickGarvey> rak_: I perfer it over vsftpd
[07:15] <stromham> glib
[07:15] <stromham> !glib
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about glib
[07:15] <stromham> Gftp sorry
[07:15] <stromham> !gftp
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about gftp
[07:15] <freakabcd> eythian, this is what i tried: rm -rf ~/.evolution; rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution
[07:16] <freakabcd> and it _still_ gets the old config!
[07:16] <stromham> Gobotu: Gftp for ubuntu
[07:16] <stromham> Gobotu: search Gftp for ubuntu
[07:16] <novato_ubuntu> fre
[07:16] <Gobotu> Gftp for ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+source/gftp/+pots/gftp
[07:16] <rak_> i'll check them out, thanks
[07:16] <Smeggy> any recommend a good mail client (simple) other than evolution ?
[07:16] <Smeggy> thunderbird isn't an option.
[07:16] <dooglus> freakabcd: did you check that ~/.evolution had actually been deleted?
[07:17] <freakabcd> dooglus, yes i did
[07:17] <dooglus> Smeggy: syphleed is quite nice, if you want simple
[07:17] <snowstalker> Smeggy, kmail
[07:17] <revilo> Smeggy, there was a really nice one, not sure of the name, something like sulpheed
[07:17] <freakabcd> if you don't believe me, try this: mv ~/.evolution ~/.evolution_old; evolution
[07:17] <dooglus> revilo: I'm guessing, too
[07:17] <revilo> Smeggy, what dooglus said :P
[07:17] <Smeggy> thanks folks :)
 Am I asking too much installing Dapper on a amd k6-II 500?
[07:17] <freakabcd> you will see _NO_ difference
[07:17] <freakabcd> its as if you never did the operation
[07:17] <Smeggy> kmail would rely on kdelibs, though, yes?
[07:17] <snowstalker> Smeggy, yes
[07:17] <Madpilot> Anyone else being spammed by "Rinchen"?
[07:18] <dxdemetriou> Can I move an existing installation of Dapper to other pc?
[07:18] <Rinchen> lol
[07:18] <dooglus> freakabcd: I imagine I'll lose a lot of email if I do that...
[07:18] <Rinchen> No that was for you
[07:18] <freakabcd> novato_ubuntu, i'm not sure its stoo much. should work fine on that machine. it all depends on the apps and the work you want to do on the machine
[07:18] <Madpilot> Rinchen, it's polite to ask first - and to send more than just a URL...
[07:18] <Rinchen> Persuant to the Cow site yesterday
[07:18] <freakabcd> dooglus, no you won't. you can always rename it back _if_ it didn't work
[07:18] <freakabcd> thats the mighty huge if
[07:19] <freakabcd> cos i have seen this exact same stupid behaviour before on my brother's machine
[07:19] <Rinchen> My apologies.
[07:19] <dooglus> freakabcd: .gnome2_private/Evolution ?
[07:19] <novato_ubuntu> freakabcd--> thank's! :o)
[07:20] <cryptid> how do i play mpeg audio format in linux
[07:20] <freakabcd> dooglus, theres no such file/dir
[07:20] <knanand> hi
[07:20] <dxdemetriou> Anybody knows why the hibernate works on fresh install, but not after the upgrade to Dapper?
[07:20] <dooglus> freakabcd: it's maybe just for saved passwords
[07:20] <knanand> can i install KDE over ubuntu??
[07:21] <spikeb> yep knanand
[07:21] <dooglus> knanand: you can install KDE in ubuntu
[07:21] <dooglus> knanand: by installing package kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <freakabcd> dooglus, find ~ -iname '*evo*' and nothing found!
[07:21] <freakabcd> what else can i delete? :(
[07:21] <dooglus> knanand: it won't go over the top of anything much, other than your splash screen and gdm login theme
[07:22] <dooglus> freakabcd: it's possible that gconfd is keeping it in RAM
[07:22] <knanand> dooglus: if i have kubuntu CD how can i go further..
[07:22] <dooglus> freakabcd: and on my system .gconf/%gconf-tree.xml has my account info in it, too
[07:22] <Dial_tone> I reinstalled and now i'm missing some video codecs but i don't know which ones
[07:22] <novato_ubuntu> as evbd can see, I'm a bit fresh in this linux thing... but can I run AutoCAD on it?
[07:22] <dooglus> knanand: #kubuntu might know more
[07:23] <freakabcd> dooglus, damn gconf. let me see if its there
[07:23] <Savage> does there happen to be ANY 3dfx drivers for ubuntu?
[07:24] <freakabcd> dooglus, ok. wtf!
[07:24] <Dial_tone> xorg should have some
[07:25] <dooglus> freakabcd: that file might be important, of course.
[07:25] <freakabcd> gconf-editor shows evo stuff in apps, when i damn well deleted ~/.gconf/apps/evolution
[07:25] <novato_ubuntu> any achitects or engenieers here?
[07:25] <Savage> Dial_tone: was that directed at me?
[07:25] <freakabcd> man, this is stupid keeps reminding me of the darn registry
[07:25] <Prez__> hello
[07:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> Hello all. Can anyone help me copy a file from livecd desktop to a partition on my hard drive.  I am trying to copy a grub.lst
[07:26] <dooglus> freakabcd: don't you see your account info in gconf's /apps/evolution/mail/accounts key?
[07:26] <wile_e8> has anyone in here gotten the pam keyring to authenticate for network manager?  It just doesn't work for me
[07:26] <freakabcd> dooglus, yeah. how the heck do i delete it from there?
[07:27] <Prez__> quick k,i've compiled kernel <IP_ADDRESS> for Ubuntu Dapper, all works great, except the graphical bootup mode and shutdown...
[07:27] <freakabcd> evo stuff is supposed to be in ~/.evo
[07:27] <freakabcd> gconf is pissing me off
[07:27] <dooglus> freakabcd: can't you just delete the accounts from within evolution?
[07:27] <varsendaggr> hey i have a winxp.img  is there a way to convert it to a vmware   file?
[07:27] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: mount the partition first
[07:27] <Prez__> any ideas, it all comes up as text
[07:27] <novato_ubuntu> any achitects or engenieers here?
[07:27] <Glimmerati> i m tired of wma and wmv...... need help......I have installed w32codecs/gxine/xmms/vmware player/  ANY ONE PLEASE HELP WITH wma and wmv......
[07:27] <freakabcd> dooglus, as i said i want a clean start!
[07:27] <dooglus> freakabcd: gconf is like windows' registry :)
[07:27] <freakabcd> dooglus, its worse
[07:27] <dooglus> freakabcd: what about deleting the whole of /apps/evolution?
[07:27] <freakabcd> i can;t even delete shit from there
[07:27] <Smeggy> I asked this here yesterday and nobody could help.. but trying agiain....
[07:27] <Jack_Smirnoff> I have it mounted and the partition shows writeable but it wont write it.  I am running Knoppix live at the moment...
[07:27] <Savage> Are there 3dfx drivers for Ubuntu?
[07:28] <Jack_Smirnoff> I have it on my desktop sda7
[07:28] <freakabcd> dooglus, thats what i did manually: rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/Evolution; but this inside the gconf-editor is still there
[07:28] <Smeggy> Can anyone tell me why my network doesn't start at boot? It's a perfectly ordinary network card.. fully supported... set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces... but it still doesn't come up on boot
[07:28] <freakabcd> how the heck do i delete?
[07:28] <dooglus> freakabcd: there must be a way.  I'll try to find out
[07:28] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: maybe you don't have permission?
[07:28] <efox> how can you tell how big a directory  through terminal ?
[07:28] <novato_ubuntu> anyone using CAD applications in Ubuntu?
[07:29] <efox> novato_ubuntu: i tried to install geda but failed
[07:29] <varsendaggr> is vmplayer  faster than qemu?
[07:29] <dooglus> freakabcd: how about something like "gconftool2 --recursive-unset /apps/evolution"?
[07:29] <Jack_Smirnoff> Thats what I said up front... I have been fighting this problem for hours trying to get my Ubuntu install back online
[07:29] <Glimmerati> ANY ONE PLEASE HELP WITH wma and wmv......
[07:29] <dooglus> freakabcd: this might damage things, of course, but you're already rm -fr'ing wildly...
[07:29] <tanath> !restrictedformats
[07:29] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, i would say there isn't any good CAD software for linux,   i started using blender and i like it
[07:30] <Madpilot> Glimmerati, ease up on the ALL CAPS, please - and asking a more specific question might get you an actual answer...
[07:30] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, i am an engineer,    what are you doing?
[07:30] <freakabcd> god, i'm ready and willing to sack gnome and all related shit
[07:30] <freakabcd> really pissing me off
[07:30] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: trying to be an architect! :o)
[07:31] <Glimmerati> I have installed w32codecs/gxine/xmms/vmware player but none of them are supporting wma nor wmv
[07:31] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: what's the problem?
[07:31] <varsendaggr> yeah blender may be for you
[07:31] <Glimmerati> i have huges colletions of wma songs whcih i cannt run in ubuntu....so i need solution to run them
[07:31] <tanath> novato_ubuntu: http://www.google.com/linux?q=cad&num=30
[07:31] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: blender... and how is the interface? autocad alike, vector
[07:32] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, it is a cool 3d modeling program,   but there are tons of ways to make it do what you need
[07:32] <Madpilot> Glimmerati, totem-xine plays wma & wmv for me...
[07:32] <freakabcd> oh thank you dooglus
[07:32] <dooglus> freakabcd: have a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/evolution.prerm if you have it - there's a line in there that unregisters the evolution gconf entries
[07:32] <Jack_Smirnoff> tan, I need to edit my grub using a livecd
[07:32] <freakabcd> gconf is stupid: i will say that as many times as possible
[07:32] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, you can even import google earth images and overlay them..l.   i will go find you a link
[07:32] <novato_ubuntu> tana
[07:32] <novato_ubuntu> tanath: thanks!
[07:32] <tanath> Glimmerati: see the post about restricted formats
[07:33] <revilo> Glimmerati, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <dooglus> freakabcd: type "yes gconf is stupid" in a terminal
[07:33] <freakabcd> thanks dooglus. i will use that line
[07:33] <Glimmerati> my totem is more worse...it doesnt even supoprt mp3....but xine should support
[07:33] <freakabcd> dooglus, that won't help me :)
[07:33] <Prez__> quick k,i've compiled kernel <IP_ADDRESS> for Ubuntu Dapper, all works great, except the graphical bootup mode and shutdown...it boots up in text mode
[07:33] <dooglus> freakabcd: you know the 'yes' command?
[07:33] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: i want to migrate to linux, but i'm not there yet..
[07:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> tanath: I will boot to live cd if you will take the time to help me mount the drive and edit the file
[07:33] <Glimmerati> now i have installed w32codecs to support me....but it is not working propoerly
[07:33] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, http://www.blendernation.com/index.php?s=google+earth
[07:33] <revilo> Glimmerati, its due to license issues, its really easy to get ubuntu playing all media formats though, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> Ubuntu live cd that is
[07:33] <varsendaggr> blender is availble for windows
[07:33] <Glimmerati> i have gone through those links before....
[07:33] <tanlaan> how do you unpack a .rpm?
[07:33] <freakabcd> dooglus, yes. but it still wouldn't help me :)
[07:34] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: what are you trying to do?
[07:34] <tanlaan> do i need to do it in terminal?
[07:34] <Jack_Smirnoff> tanlaan, dont do it
[07:34] <Glimmerati> infect i have been working last 5 hrs to resolves this issues....
[07:34] <tanlaan> dont do what?
[07:34] <dooglus> freakabcd: your best bet is probably to reinstall evolution.  that should remove and recreate the gconf entries for you
[07:34] <revilo> Glimmerati, which media player? totem-xine would require you to install libxine-extracodecs via "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" for mp3 support
[07:34] <Glimmerati> i has othter prob like DVD .. and i solved the dvd issue
[07:34] <dooglus> freakabcd: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install evolution"
[07:34] <snowstalker> Glimmerati, See if http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html helps
[07:34] <Glimmerati> now i m stuck on wma and wmv
[07:34] <Jack_Smirnoff> tan, I thought I made it pretty clear, I dont know how to explain it any better
[07:34] <dooglus> freakabcd: I'm not certain though.
[07:34] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: hum.. thats interesting... I'll give it a try...
[07:35] <freakabcd> dooglus, man. this is getting even more interesting. reinstall a package to get rid of its conf stuff.
[07:35] <varsendaggr> yeah   you need python
[07:35] <freakabcd> anyway, that gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/evolution
[07:35] <tanlaan> blah what do i do with a .rpm?
[07:35] <freakabcd> did the trick
[07:35] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: you prolly explained it before i got here
[07:35] <dooglus> freakabcd: well, that script I gave the path to just now is what runs when the package is removed...  since you also want to recreate an empty config, and that's done when the package is installed, removing and reinstalling it seems to be the simplest way...
[07:36] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, blender is pretty intense   come find me here and i can give you some pointers
[07:36] <dooglus> freakabcd: oh, that's good.
[07:36] <dooglus> freakabcd: I just wonder if it broke anything.
[07:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> I need to edit my grub on sda7 using a live cd
[07:36] <dooglus> tanath: see 'alien'
[07:36] <bender> im so bord omfg
[07:36] <bender> how do i save this nick?
[07:36] <freakabcd> dooglus, no it didn't. if it did. i'm ready to really actively stay away from all things gnome
[07:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am booted into a Knoppix live cd at the moment because it automounts my partitions
[07:36] <dooglus> bender: /say /msg nickserv password omfgimsobord
[07:36] <freakabcd> except ofcourse gimp, inkscape and some _good_ apps
[07:36] <tanlaan> what do i do with .rpm's?
[07:37] <dooglus> (without the /say)
[07:37] <dooglus> tanath: use alien
[07:37] <scorchblade> installing system from live cd.  install hangs at 60% (repeatable), although cursor still moves.  any thoughts?
[07:37] <bender> /msg nickserver password rrpor894!!##
[07:37] <tanath> dooglus: for what? :P
[07:37] <freakabcd> tanlaan, you can use alien on them. or extract them
[07:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> tanlaan:  Leave them alone
[07:37] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: all right then... it's just that i'm used to autoCAD, you know? all the shortcuts and stuff...
[07:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> Use the debs
[07:37] <bender> :)
[07:37] <dooglus> tanath: to handle rpms
[07:37] <tanlaan> just exract them?
[07:37] <tanath> dooglus: i don't use rpms :P
[07:37] <tanlaan> extract*
[07:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> Alien is NOT a good choice..
[07:37] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: that's why i'm trying to remain with it..
[07:37] <freakabcd> dooglus, there tanath and tanlaan
[07:37] <freakabcd> :p
[07:38] <Terminus> ubotu: tell bender about register
[07:38] <dooglus> tanath: no, but someone with a similar nick does :)
[07:38] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, yeah    you should get a blender keymap   they are there     novato_ubuntu you can also /j #blender
[07:38] <tanath> dooglus: i know. hence the ':P'
[07:38] <tanlaan> blah
[07:38] <bender> Terminus, ?
[07:38] <Terminus> meh... that doesn't work.
[07:38] <Terminus> !register
[07:38] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:38] <dooglus> Jack_Smirnoff: is there an alternative to alien if you want to work with rpms?
[07:38] <Terminus> bender: there you go. :)
[07:38] <bender> thanks
[07:38] <tanlaan> ooc what..do...i...do...with..rpms
[07:39] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, i would say to stick with auto cad but pick up blender on the side a little bit
[07:39] <bender> im assuming yall saw my passwd ?
[07:39] <tanlaan> :D
[07:39] <tanath> use rpm?
[07:39] <tanlaan> *oops forget the ooc*
[07:39] <freakabcd> bender, you mean this one: rrpor894!!## ??
[07:39] <freakabcd> :p
[07:39] <bender> ya
[07:39] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: yeap... I'll try to do that now.. on vacation.. :o)
[07:40] <dooglus> bender: sorry.  I didn't mean to include the "/say" in my instructions.
[07:40] <tanlaan> fine then with deb files do i use dpkg?
[07:40] <bender> dooglus,  ya thanks jackass
[07:40] <dooglus> bender: just "/msg nickserv riproror##!!"
[07:40] <dooglus> bender: I did correct myself immediately
[07:40] <purpleidea> would someone know of how to fix a folder and subfolder of permissions? i did a chmod -Rv 664 directory/ but it broke all the directories because they now don't have an execute bit, but i obviously don't want to add the +x to the files... anyone?
[07:40] <cryptid> how do i play mpeg format files in linux.plz help??
[07:40] <tanath> !restrictedformats
[07:40] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <spikeb> !tell cryptid about restrictedformats
[07:40] <bender> ok after i enter that in... what happens...
[07:40] <Terminus> purpleidea: chmod -Rv +X directory/
[07:41] <scorchblade> installer hangs.  clock in the top menu bar stops updating.  cursor still moves nicely.  any chance of debugging this?
[07:41] <purpleidea> Terminus: won't that add +X to my files too?
[07:41] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: but, from what i can see here, Blender is more of a 3d graphics creator, isnt it?
[07:41] <Terminus> purpleidea: take note of the capital X
[07:41] <purpleidea> Terminus: capitals for just dir's ?
[07:41] <Terminus> purpleidea: capital X only applies to dirs. small x touches the files.
[07:41] <purpleidea> Terminus: thank you, much appreciated
[07:41] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, yeah    the CAD aspects you have to add on and improvise
[07:41] <Terminus> purpleidea: you're welcome. :)
[07:42] <jrattner1> QUESTION: In XGL When a window doesnt have focus it turns grey house can i change that
[07:43] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: ahm... because I use autoCAD to make the techinical draw, then I use sketchup for the 3d modelling...
[07:43] <Savage> Why is it that Ubuntu won't let me change my resolution I'm stuck in 640x480
[07:43] <jacksprrow> Savage, you need to edit xorg.conf
[07:44] <jacksprrow> or run   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:44] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: I'm stuck with that kind of "sketchy" presentations...
[07:44] <rak_> hey i'm having a problem with azuereus... when i get an error or warning popup at the bottom right hand side of my screen i  can't seem to get rid of them no matter what i do, suggestions?
[07:44] <ruth> guys
[07:44] <beerfan> Silly question...can kde apps run on gnome? Why do kde apps show up in the package manager?
[07:44] <spikeb> rak_: my solution was to get rid of azeurus, i couldnt figure out how to make it work
[07:44] <scorchblade> no suggestions on getting the installer unstuck?
[07:44] <ruth> I've dapper and I'd like to install kernel 2.6.17
[07:44] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, cool   i am a mechnical engineer and i like the fact that i can make really nice product modles
[07:44] <Savage> dangit i need a kvm switch i keep using the wrong kb lol
[07:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Savage about fixres
[07:44] <ruth> where to start??
[07:44] <rak_> spkeb: what do you use instead?
[07:44] <jacksprrow> scorchblade,  whats the issue?
[07:44] <megatronn1> oh god, i can't get ati drivers to work
[07:44] <freakabcd> Savage, ever tried synergy ?
[07:44] <Savage> !fixres
[07:44] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:45] <stromham> Gobotu search fixres
[07:45] <Gobotu> fixres: http://devclarity.com/
[07:45] <ruth> !kernel
[07:45] <jacksprrow> Savage, you need to edit xorg.conf
[07:45] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:45] <freakabcd> i use one keyboard/mouse for 2 machines (it works with more as well)
[07:45] <ruth> !2.6.17
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about 2.6.17
[07:45] <Smeggy> what should my procedure be when setting up a new monitor on my ubuntu box?
[07:45] <Savage> thanks jack
[07:45] <Smeggy> it hasn't detected the new paramters of the monitor, so the resoltuion setter is still listing modes for the old monitor.
[07:45] <stromham> Gobotu search ubuntu + kernel 2.6.17 + install
[07:45] <Gobotu> ubuntu + kernel 2.6.17 + install: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200691
[07:45] <peanut7836> how would i set up a ppp connection?
[07:46] <crazy_penguin> good morning ladies and gentlemans! a good morning to all of you!
[07:46] <purpleidea> peanut7836: search ubuntu wiki first, there is a nice explanation
[07:46] <peanut7836> ok
[07:46] <stromham> Gobotu search how to setup a ppp connection on ubuntu
[07:46] <Gobotu> how to setup a ppp connection on ubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:46] <stromham> hmm i need to fix that
[07:46] <beerfan> Can KDE apps run on Ubuntu (gnome)?
[07:46] <stromham> no
[07:47] <jacksprrow> beerfan, yes.
[07:47] <stromham> well maybe some
[07:47] <crazy_penguin> :)
[07:47] <Glimmerati> i m having prob on wma and wmv......... any one plz help
[07:47] <purpleidea> peanut7836: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:47] <mikeo1> how do i do whats in this guide http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tvtuner/
[07:47] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: thank you for your tips! I'll give it a try some day soon!
[07:47] <mikeo1> trying to install my tv card
[07:47] <mikeo1> and dont know how to recompile the kernel
[07:47] <megatronn1> anyone using an ati card? im having driver problems
[07:47] <beerfan> Jack_Sparrow, I tried installing one but it didn't run. Do I have to install all of KDE or something?
[07:47] <jacksprrow> stromham, ... or all..
[07:47] <stromham> Gobotu search how to compile the kernel on ubuntu
[07:47] <Gobotu> how to compile the kernel on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24853
[07:47] <jacksprrow> beerfan, what were you trying to install
[07:47] <stromham> jack they have to use gtk 2.0
[07:48] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, you bet,   open source is the way to go....
[07:48] <stromham> not all buddy gnome may not have support for them
[07:48] <jacksprrow> ... no...i have never heard of that ever.
[07:48] <beerfan> Jack_Sparrow, I don't remember. It was a little while ago. I just don't understand the dependency thing very well re kde and gnome
[07:48] <jacksprrow> wtf who was posing as me.
[07:48] <Smeggy> all kde apps will work in gnome and vice versa
[07:48] <jacksprrow> correct.
[07:48] <Smeggy> youll just need the dependencies
[07:48] <stromham> Gobotu search can kde aps be used on gnome?
[07:48] <Gobotu> can kde aps be used on gnome?: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/60993-how-do-i-speed-up-suse-10-a.html
[07:49] <stromham> ?
[07:49] <stromham> what is that url
[07:49] <jacksprrow> stromham, why on earth wouldnt it work.. that makes no sence.
[07:49] <stromham> smeggy they must use gtk
[07:49] <mikeo1> how do i edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/media/video/bttv-cards.c
[07:49] <mikeo1> it doesnt exist
[07:49] <jacksprrow> you can have both KDE and GNOME installed.. and they will use the required DEPS
[07:49] <stromham> the need gimp tool kit to run on gnome!
[07:49] <jacksprrow> you can install both...
[07:49] <Smeggy> anything will run in gnome
[07:49] <beerfan> KDE won't conflict with gnome?
[07:49] <Smeggy> its just an environment
[07:49] <jacksprrow> no...
[07:49] <jacksprrow> its linux
[07:49] <jacksprrow> wow.
[07:49] <stromham> but thats not his question
[07:49] <mikeo1> how do i edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/media/video/bttv-cards.c when it doesnt exist
[07:49] <Smeggy> its just that some things use a different libary
[07:50] <mikeo1> and recompile the kernel
[07:50] <jacksprrow> stromham,  yes it is.
[07:50] <Smeggy> provided you have those libraries, anything will run in anything else
[07:50] <stromham> no it isnt
[07:50] <stromham> he did not say he had kde
[07:50] <jacksprrow> ok newb...
[07:50] <beerfan> Maybe I'll try another app. One that I installed didn't run so I've always avoided kde apps
[07:50] <stromham> he asked if kde aps work on gnome
[07:50] <jacksprrow> wich they do.
[07:50] <Smeggy> forget about having kde
[07:50] <stromham> not all
[07:50] <jacksprrow> sigh whatever.
[07:50] <jacksprrow> next.
[07:50] <stromham> the must use the gtk to work
[07:50] <Smeggy> if you try to install an app with apt-get that requires a library you dont have
[07:50] <Smeggy> you'll get that library with the app
[07:50] <Smeggy> it's a non issue
[07:51] <jacksprrow> Smeggy, thank you
[07:51] <beerfan> Smeggy, I used apt-get
[07:51] <stromham> its not about getting the lib
[07:51] <hawkaloogie> stromham, if you download all the kde libraries, you can be running Gnome and use KDE apps
[07:51] <stromham> its about being able to create a window on gnome
[07:51] <stromham> with gtk
[07:51] <Smeggy> wth
[07:51] <hawkaloogie> i use k3b, because gnomebaker sucks, and i'm using gnome
[07:51] <jacksprrow> does this guy know anything?
[07:51] <Smeggy> jacksprrow, do you have any idea what stromham is on about
[07:51] <stromham> yes i do im a programmer
[07:52] <hawkaloogie> We are at troll alert yellow! Batton the hatches!
[07:52] <stromham> im no fcking trol!
[07:52] <Madpilot> Folks, cool it...
[07:52] <ruth> Does anybody knows how to upgrade to 2.6.17??
[07:52] <IamEthos> what is the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu?
[07:52] <stromham> i did not say if icant do it you cant
[07:53] <bruenig> edubuntu comes default with some educational games and such for kids
[07:53] <stromham> im stating that to run programs on gnome they need gtk support
[07:53] <IamEthos> aah
[07:53] <Smeggy> ok... gtk+ is the library mainly used by gnome... qt is used by kde... they are both libraries that draw on linux using X11... there are no issues in creating windows with one or the other... you can launch an app that uses qt (kde's library) from gnome and it will run perfectly....
[07:54] <IamEthos> okay, so I'm trying to decide between xubuntu and ubuntu for my younger brother
[07:54] <stromham> ok i had no clue im just so used to windows and forgot about that damn lib sharing
[07:54] <PacketScan> IamEthos, ubuntu
[07:54] <poje> Okay, so my laptop just freaked out: it's only got 128MB of RAM which was almost maxed out from firefox and then system CPU cycles maxed out and the system went into a hang after a while of thrashing
[07:54] <J-_> updating my repo's, i got an error which is
[07:54] <J-_> E: Malformed line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[07:54] <J-_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[07:54] <J-_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[07:54] <J-_> how can i fix it?
[07:54] <bruenig> IamEthos, the only real reason to go with xubuntu is if you have some older hardware that you don't think can run ubuntu smoothly
[07:54] <bruenig> !enter
[07:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:54] <poje> Any thoughts on avoiding this?
[07:54] <IamEthos> bruenig, yeah, I know
[07:55] <Madpilot> J-_, pastebin your sources.list, there seems to be something wrong with it...
[07:55] <IamEthos> his machine came with Windows 98 standard
[07:55] <spikeb> IamEthos: how much memory?
[07:55] <IamEthos> I'm wondering how old is too old for ununtu?
[07:55] <Smeggy> how much ram IamEthos?
[07:55] <bruenig> IamEthos, what are the system specs
[07:55] <Jack_Sparro1> I am booted into Ubuntu LiveCDD.  I need to edit the grub.lst on sda7  I could use some help
[07:55] <IamEthos> spikeb, Smeggy, bruenig hmm... I'm not exactly sure. I haven't even booted the computer in sooo long
[07:55] <poje> IamEthos: I'm on a 128MB / 500Mhz laptop
[07:56] <poje> IamEthos: and I run it just fine :D
[07:56] <stromham> go with xbuntu if you want but im running ubuntu with out problems
[07:56] <J-_> is there a source list i can go by to make it work?
[07:56] <spikeb> IamEthos: should probably check that out. should have at least 128
[07:56] <Smeggy> IamEthos, when was the computer made?
[07:56] <cryptid> how do i play avi video files in linux..plz held??
[07:56] <IamEthos> yeah, I'll take a look
[07:56] <stromham> you need codecs
[07:56] <Smeggy> IamEthos, earlier than 2000 go with xubuntu... as a rough guide
[07:56] <poje> !restrictedformats
[07:56] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:56] <kbrosnan> poje, you might want to try Epiphany, a browser that is close to Firefox
[07:56] <divansantana> Hello everyone!
[07:56] <IamEthos> I think it does have 128, but I'm not sure
[07:57] <bruenig> IamEthos, for ubuntu you need 256 MB of memory
[07:57] <divansantana> does anyone know if and when OpenOffice.org2.0.3 will be released for Ubuntu???
[07:57] <poje> kbrosnan: well I don't think it was firefox specifically to blame...I dunno
[07:57] <Jack_Sparro1> Could someone give me the command to mount sda7. I have terminal window open so   sudo mount xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:57] <poje> bruenig: bullcrap ;d
[07:57] <spikeb> divansantana: when the next release of ubuntu comes out, or it might be backported
[07:57] <morphix> with normal ISO's i can mount them using loop options, is it possible to do it with .mds/,mdf files? or if not, how can i extract the data from them?
[07:57] <IamEthos> bruenig, that may be pushing it
[07:57] <Smeggy> Jack_Sparro1, mount /media/mountpoint /dev/sda7 ?
[07:57] <IamEthos> there's no way to order xubuntu cds with shipit, is there?
[07:58] <Jack_Sparro1> What do I use for mountpoint?
[07:58] <stromham> Gobotu how to mount sda7 on ubuntu
[07:58] <poje> IamEthos: there is really no reason to worry about hardware specs for Ubuntu unless it's REALLY old
[07:58] <Jack_Sparro1> I would prefer the desktop
[07:58] <stromham> Gobotu search how to mount sda7 on ubuntu
[07:58] <Gobotu> how to mount sda7 on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&page=14
[07:58] <bruenig> poje, that is just what it said on the release notes, it might be a little higher than absolutely necessary
[07:58] <leboff> !m4v
[07:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about m4v
[07:58] <stromham> Gobotu search m4v
[07:58] <Gobotu> m4v: http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-media-faq/faq-mp4-streaming.htm
[07:58] <IamEthos> poje, what's really old to you? This computer could be from 2000 +/- 2 years
[07:59] <Smeggy> i wouldnt wanna use gnome on less than 256mb though
[07:59] <poje> bruenig: recommended != needed/usable
[07:59] <IamEthos> I can't exactly remember when we bought it
[07:59] <leboff> thanks stromham
[07:59] <stromham> smeggy im using on 192 and its awsome
[07:59] <Smeggy> yeah?
[07:59] <poje> IamEthos: this laptop is 500mhz / 128MB and runs just fine
[07:59] <stromham> np leboff
[07:59] <Smeggy> i had it ona  laptop a year ago that had 256mb and it was kinda slow
[07:59] <stromham> lol
[07:59] <Jack_Sparro1> It isnt ntfs but I will read through
[07:59] <stromham> i guess mines just built good?
[07:59] <IamEthos> hmm. alright, well I guess I'll give ubuntu a try and keep xubuntu in mind, just in case
[07:59] <poje> IamEthos: just look at your hardware specs - the only thing about being this old is OOo can be a bit slow
[08:00] <bruenig> OOo is slow on my computer with 512MB and 1.8Ghz
[08:00] <IamEthos> I wish I could get a mixture of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu CDs via shipit
[08:00] <IamEthos> that would be helpful
[08:01] <spikeb> you  can, you just have to put multiple orders in. and they dont do xubuntu
[08:01] <poje> bruenig: haha yeah - on that note, do you know of an alternate way to just view powerpoints on linux?
[08:01] <Jack_Sparro1> That link did not have the info I need...   I need terminal command to mount a ext3 Ubuntu partition and edit my grub.
[08:01] <IamEthos> spikeb, yeah, I know, but my orders won't ship together will they?
[08:01] <spikeb> IamEthos: no
[08:01] <spikeb> sigh
[08:01] <IamEthos> it'd be nice to get like 5-10 of each, let them save on shipping cost
[08:01] <spikeb> yeah
[08:01] <spikeb> i know what you mean.
[08:01] <stromham> Gobotu search how to mount a ext3 ubuntu partition and edit grub on the terminal
[08:01] <Gobotu> how to mount a ext3 ubuntu partition and edit grub on the terminal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&page=2
[08:01] <bruenig> IamEthos, if you email them from what I have heard they are very responsive to special requests although the requests I heard of were for like 200 discs not a grab bag for a single person
[08:02] <Smeggy> you can just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.. and so on
[08:02] <Smeggy> from any version of (x|k)ubuntu
[08:02] <spikeb> Smeggy: still leaves one with the task of removing the other cruft
[08:02] <stromham> smeggy what are the differences between x and u buntu
[08:02] <IamEthos> well thanks everyone for the advice
[08:02] <Smeggy> xubuntu uses Xfce stromham
[08:02] <Smeggy> ubuntu uses gnome
[08:03] <stromham> besides that
[08:03] <IamEthos> now I just have to convince him that Gaim/Kopete are just as good as AIM
[08:03] <Smeggy> nothing
[08:03] <Smeggy> its the same core
[08:03] <hawkaloogie> Jack_Sparro1, why do you need to edit grub to mount a partition?
[08:03] <stromham> oh lol
[08:03] <spikeb> IamEthos: kopete is BETTER than gaim
[08:03] <Smeggy> that's the beauty of linux :)
[08:03] <spikeb> IamEthos: er, aim
[08:03] <spikeb> damn it
[08:03] <stromham> im still getting used to linux
[08:03] <IamEthos> spikeb, I'm inclined to agree
[08:03] <IamEthos> but image and file transfers don't work so hot
[08:03] <spikeb> gaim is just different heh
[08:04] <Smeggy> gaim isn't that great
[08:04] <Smeggy> but libgaim is fantastic
[08:04] <stromham> i like gaim
[08:04] <bruenig> I still can't get my stuff to burn to cds, damn linux
[08:04] <IamEthos> which is important to him, I guess :-/
[08:04] <Smeggy> case in point -> adium on osx
[08:04] <Smeggy> uses libgaim :)
[08:04] <stromham> gaim has it problems tho
[08:04] <stromham> like no channel browsing
[08:04] <cryptid> how do i play video files in linux.plz help me?
[08:04] <IamEthos> bruenig, I'm running Gentoo with KDE, but I emerged k3b, and it worked perfectly with no configuration needed
[08:05] <IamEthos> maybe try that?
[08:05] <poje> Gaim is great, just don't use it as an IRC client
[08:05] <Smeggy> yeah
[08:05] <Smeggy> use xchat for irc
[08:05] <stromham> Gobotu: search easybuntu
[08:05] <Gobotu> easybuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[08:05] <stromham> there cryptid
[08:05] <poje> Smeggy: I'm partial to irssi ;)
[08:05] <IamEthos> I haven't seen a single IM client that worked well for IRC
[08:05] <bruenig> IamEthos, it will burn DVDs but everytime I pop a cd in it doesn't recognize a disk is there, might be because my drive is a dual DVD and CD drive
[08:05] <stromham> installs codecs and everything
[08:05] <Smeggy> so am i, but i'm also partial to laziness poje ;)
[08:06] <poje> IamEthos: mainly because the usages for IRC and AIM are quite different
[08:06] <efox> is there a way to see how big a folder, directory or file is ?
[08:06] <efox> through terminal that is
[08:06] <efox> im sure there is
[08:06] <poje> Smeggy: haha, touche...but I don't use IRC a lot nowadays so it's easy :D
[08:06] <IamEthos> poje, yeah.
[08:06] <stromham> well it gets the job done
[08:06] <Cainus> hey...can anyone tell me if ubuntu has some default firewall?  it seems to be blocking incoming connections...
[08:06] <dooglus> efox: "du -h <folder>"
[08:06] <IamEthos> I'm starting to actually like IRSSI
[08:06] <IamEthos> weird huh?
[08:06] <stromham> and it allows me to login alot of chat types
[08:06] <efox> dooglus: thanks
[08:06] <stromham> cainus
[08:06] <dooglus> efox: "du -hs <folder>" if you just want the sum
[08:07] <poje> IamEthos: irssi is kickass because you can use it from the CLI
[08:07] <stromham> search synaptic for firestarter
[08:07] <IamEthos> (running a FreeBSD system without any window manager for a server. IRSSI is a lifesaver)
[08:07] <poje> Oh yes
[08:07] <IamEthos> and Lynx
[08:07] <Cainus> stromham: is that some firewall management app?
[08:07] <stromham> Gobotu: search firestarter for ubuntu
[08:07] <Gobotu> firestarter for ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-13659.html
[08:07] <dooglus> poje: irssi's selling point for me is that I can run it inside GNU screen
[08:07] <poje> ^5 to us
[08:07] <stromham> yes
[08:07] <Cainus> stromham: k thanks
[08:07] <stromham> np
[08:08] <poje> dooglus: indeed...I should learn screen sometime
[08:08] <cryptid> stromham:plz tell me how do i play video files?
[08:08] <stromham> you need to download the codecs
[08:08] <stromham> if you search synaptic
[08:08] <stromham> for easybuntu
[08:08] <stromham> it will do it for you
[08:09] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[08:09] <SurfnKid> how do i install Java Runtime?
[08:09] <SurfnKid> if i download the .bin extension
[08:09] <stromham> Gobotu search how + info + easy buntu
[08:09] <Gobotu> how + info + easy buntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199125&page=2
[08:09] <Madpilot> stromham, EasyUbuntu isn't in the default repos
[08:09] <SurfnKid> do i just set it up thru dpkg?
[08:09] <poje> Okay - so what might make Ubuntu freak out and die on me - system CPU spikes for a while and then hangs indefinitely
[08:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SurfnKid about java
[08:09] <stromham> surfnkid
[08:09] <SurfnKid> thx
[08:09] <stromham> Gobotu search how to install jre 5 on ubuntu
[08:09] <Gobotu> how to install jre 5 on ubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:10] <stromham> grrr
[08:10] <SurfnKid> Madpilot: i stay a week out of the ubuntu channel and i forget how to install a package. im such a putz
[08:10] <stromham> he keeps telling poeple to go there
[08:10] <SurfnKid> hehe
[08:10] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, the bot never forgets :)
[08:10] <Madpilot> stromham, that's the trouble with Google & Ubuntu currently
[08:10] <bruenig> surfnkid, if you enable the extra repos, you can do it via apt-get
[08:10] <SurfnKid> Madpilot: i need a brain bot transplant
[08:10] <stromham> yes i know
[08:10] <stromham> i will fix that
[08:10] <stromham> im gonna restrict the url
[08:10] <SurfnKid> bruenig: i did, its all added in the synaptic. well let me check a few things
[08:10] <SurfnKid> and read
[08:11] <SurfnKid> Gobotu? new
[08:11] <Savage> is there a way with catalyst control center to vind my refresh rates?
[08:11] <beerfan> SurfnKid, if you have the repositories added, 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre'
[08:12] <SurfnKid> beerfan: ahh i was missing that last part
[08:12] <stromham> Gobotu: what are you?
[08:12] <Gobotu> *shrug*
[08:15] <lucas> hi
[08:15] <SurfnKid> beerfan: sun-java5-jre isnt found
[08:15] <SurfnKid> beerfan: if i look for java in synaptic itll come up with a few packages
[08:15] <lucas> what could I use to edit a video ? (remove parts of it, add some text on some parts of it, etc)
[08:15] <Jack_Sparro1> How do I change permissions on a mounted folder.
[08:15] <CrippsFX> Jack_Sparro1, man chmod
[08:16] <CrippsFX> and man chown
[08:16] <stromham> Gobotu search how to change pirmissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu
[08:16] <Gobotu> how to change pirmissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu: not found!
[08:16] <beerfan> SurfnKid, perhaps you don't have the right repository? That's the package name
[08:16] <stromham> wow thats a first
[08:16] <Jack_Sparro1> CrippsFX:  I need it spoonfed to me.. I am exhausted trying to fix this
[08:16] <stromham> Gobotu search how to change permissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu
[08:16] <Gobotu> how to change permissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76314.html
[08:16] <Jack_Sparro1> Go to term.. ok
[08:16] <CrippsFX> Jack_Sparro1, then you need to take a break and try again later.
[08:16] <stromham> there jack
[08:16] <SurfnKid> beerfan: what repo should i have, Ive got everything enabled, universe multiverse, multigalaxy and multinova
[08:16] <XaviusShadow> I'm having a problem running the livecd
[08:17] <SurfnKid> hehe
[08:17] <leboff> can someone recommend a Wireless NIC .. i'm getting a new one, and i want one that just works with ubuntu..
[08:17] <SurfnKid> just trying to run this java thing on the browser
[08:17] <XaviusShadow> I burned the CD as an image using nero, but when I put it in my comp it didn't boot from it.
[08:17] <beerfan> SurfnKid, do you have underverse, multiwhere, and otherverse? :-)
[08:17] <SurfnKid> leboff: my broadcomm 43xx works good, but i hear the Intel 2200 BG is good too
[08:17] <SurfnKid> beerfan: exactly
[08:18] <krinns> hi all
[08:18] <krinns> i am new to kubuntu
[08:18] <freakabcd> ok, some fun for all: http://esscc.uq.edu.au/~imran/dogs/dogs.html
[08:18] <XaviusShadow> Anyone know what I did wrong?
[08:18] <krinns> i need to point my cdrom to my sourcelist
[08:18] <krinns> what should i do for this
[08:18] <Madpilot> XaviusShadow, did you burn the ISO as an ISO?
[08:18] <leboff> SurfnKid: i had a broadcomm 43xx .. there were driver issues :/ had to use fwcutter and stuff.. know of anything that works out of the box?
[08:18] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell XaviusShadow about burniso
[08:18] <SurfnKid> beerfan: well it does show some packages, make and some other options for sdk's, even thr runtime
[08:18] <beerfan> SurfnKid, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:19] <XaviusShadow> I burned it as an image using nero
[08:19] <XaviusShadow> That's what I was told to do earlier
[08:19] <stromham> Gobotu search how to point your cdrom to your source list on ubuntu
[08:19] <Gobotu> how to point your cdrom to your source list on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131872
[08:19] <SurfnKid> leboff: wouldnt know for dapper, but bcm43xx worked perfectly with ndiswrapper, i might have to look for a card myself that is nearly 'out-of-the-box' perfect
[08:19] <SurfnKid> beerfan: thnx gonna look
[08:20] <CrippsFX> leboff, bcm43xx works fine in 32 bit Ubuntu, provided you follow the ubuntu wiki directions on enabling it.
[08:20] <XaviusShadow> but after I burned it as an image it still won't run ubuntu
[08:20] <leboff> CrippsFX: unfortunately.. i have amd64
[08:21] <CrippsFX> leboff, for example, I tried doing the "standard" way of enabling it (extract firmware, modprobe ... etc ...), didn't work.
[08:21] <CrippsFX> leboff, it may work.,
[08:21] <stromham> nah there is a howto on it
[08:21] <beerfan> SurfnKid, actually the easiest is use the "add remove" package manager and check the 'show unsupported apps' box. It will find and install from there
[08:21] <leboff> CrippsFX: i used a bcm43xx (a linksys card.. cant remember which) had nothing but problems..
[08:21] <stromham> Goubuntu search wpc54g wirless card + bcm43xx + install
[08:22] <CrippsFX> leboff, bcm43xx is broadcom, not linksys
[08:22] <stromham>  Gobotu search wpc54g wirless card + bcm43xx + install
[08:22] <Gobotu> wpc54g wirless card + bcm43xx + install: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-190967.html
[08:22] <leboff> there ya go..
[08:22] <SurfnKid> beerfan: oh, ok
[08:22] <CrippsFX> anyways brb ... gotta actually do some work.
[08:22] <SurfnKid> beerfan: let me dig up a little more
[08:22] <stromham> bcm43xx is also on linksys
[08:22] <leboff> CrippsFX: i think the linksys card used a broadcomm chipset.. if i remember correctly
[08:22] <stromham> yes
[08:23] <stromham> my card is a bcm43xx
[08:23] <SurfnKid> beerfan: into that unsupported section, thx
[08:23] <beerfan> SurfnKid, that last is the easy way but I always forget it
[08:23] <leboff> all i hear about is trouble with bcm43xx... unless its just a common card... so it makes more noise..
[08:23] <SurfnKid> beerfan: right, well i could just dl the debs n take care of it, but synaptic always comes in handy
[08:23] <beerfan> SurfnKid, if you don't have the necessary repository it asks to add it
[08:23] <beerfan> better to use the package manager I guess
[08:24] <SurfnKid> righ
[08:24] <SurfnKid> t
[08:24] <SurfnKid> ill go thru the commmunity/java steps
[08:24] <beerfan> SurfnKid, those instructions are somewhat dated, before they added it to the repository
[08:24] <leboff> so has anybody had a wireless card.. plugged it in and it just worked?
[08:24] <leboff> or is that just wishful thinking
[08:25] <beerfan> leboff, yeah many cards are well supported
[08:25] <leboff> beerfan: i.e.?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> leboff: Mine worked ootb
[08:25] <beerfan> leboff, mine 'just worked' but I read a bit first
[08:25] <leboff> tonyyarusso and beerfan.. what cards do you guys have?
[08:26] <beerfan> leboff, I have a netgear with atheros chip
[08:26] <beerfan> leboff, plug n play
[08:26] <Trigger_H> is there any way to VNC into a ubuntu machine that isnt logged in?
[08:26] <stromham> Wpc54G linksys here
[08:26] <SurfnKid> beerfan: ok gonna check the unsupp. tab
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> leboff: Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 a/b/g
[08:26] <leboff> beerfan: thanks i'll look into it..
[08:26] <leboff> tonyyarusso: thanks
[08:26] <stromham> Gobotu search how to VNC into a ubuntu machine that isnt logged in
[08:26] <Gobotu> how to VNC into a ubuntu machine that isnt logged in: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-59799.html
[08:27] <mikeo1> anyone know how to get audio off my tv card
[08:27] <beerfan> leboff, here's a list http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[08:28] <leboff> beerfan: just what i was lookin for.. thanks
[08:28] <stromham> Gobotu search how to get audio off tv card on ubuntu
[08:28] <Gobotu> how to get audio off tv card on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200344
[08:28] <Madpilot> stromham, is Gobotu yours?
[08:28] <stromham> yes
[08:28] <mikeo1> lol
[08:28] <Madpilot> just wondering - it's new to the channel ;)
[08:28] <stromham> Gobotu botsnack
[08:28] <Gobotu> stromham: schweet!
[08:29] <stromham> anyone can use it
[08:29] <stromham> to search just type Gobotu search your search here
[08:29] <stromham> Gobotu your mission?
[08:29] <Gobotu> beats me
[08:29] <stromham> Gobotu my mission?
[08:29] <Gobotu> my mission is to provide support to the Goubuntu project and to ensure a safe haven for IRC users to talk on.
[08:29] <Trigger_H> stromham: i dont think the link you sent me helped, it was just a debate about how secure the VNC protocol is.  Nothing about getting VNC to work without a user logged in.
[08:30] <beerfan> stromham search how to use Gobotu
[08:30] <mikeo1> how come tvtime crashes in xgl
[08:30] <stromham> trigger gimme a sec
[08:30] <Trigger_H> ty
[08:30] <stromham> can you please explain you question more?
[08:30] <stromham> so i can make a setter search
[08:31] <stromham> better*
[08:31] <Savage> any one know where I could get 3dfx drivers for my voodoo in my linux box
[08:31] <Trigger_H> i would like to VNC into a ubuntu box (dapper) that isnt currently signed on
[08:31] <Jack_Sparro1> Wish me luck...
[08:31] <leboff> ive pretty much given up on non-brand name computer periphs.. if i want them to work with linux..
[08:31] <stromham> Gobotu search where to get 3dfx drivers for vodoo on linux
[08:31] <Trigger_H> i know it works when someone is signed on
[08:31] <Gobotu> where to get 3dfx drivers for vodoo on linux: http://www.voodoofiles.com/
[08:31] <CarlFK> Trigger_H: have you installed the VNC server on it?
[08:31] <Trigger_H> yes, it works when someone is signed on
[08:32] <XaviusShadow> Here's my problem... I burned the iso the right way, I also have my comp set to boot from CD, it still won't boot from the cdrom I burned
[08:32] <Trigger_H> It just doesnt let me do it when it is at the user login screen.
[08:32] <stromham> Gobotu seach how to VNC into ubuntu + dapper + that is not signed on
[08:32] <Gobotu> can do!
[08:32] <mikeo1> lol
[08:32] <snoops> XaviusShadow if you put the cd in, from your windows box.. it should autorun and just show a few basic things like firefox etc?
[08:32] <leboff> stromham: seach aint gonna do it
[08:32] <snoops> does it?
[08:32] <leboff> Gobotu search how to VNC into ubuntu + dapper + that is not signed on
[08:32] <Gobotu> how to VNC into ubuntu + dapper + that is not signed on: http://www.port7.co.uk/category/mark/geek/
[08:32] <CarlFK> Trigger_H: when I messed with it about a year ago, you would get a whole new desktop - it had nothing to do with what was being displayed on the screen, and nothing to do with who was logged in.
[08:33] <mikeo1> Gobotu search tv card audio
[08:33] <Gobotu> tv card audio: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr500mce.html
[08:33] <XaviusShadow> I dunno... it's loading windows now snoops, I'll find out in a sec
[08:33] <stromham> Gobotu search how to setup computer to boot from disk.
[08:33] <Gobotu> how to setup computer to boot from disk.: http://www.bootdisk.com/
[08:33] <mikeo1> Gobotu search kitejumping
[08:33] <Gobotu> kitejumping: http://www.kitejumping.org/
[08:33] <mikeo1> :p my site
[08:33] <Healot> holy
[08:33] <stromham> please dont abuse
[08:33] <stromham> you will get me in trouble
[08:34] <Edvinas> how to quit computer throuh console?
[08:34] <stromham> Gobotu search how to quit computer throught console on ubuntu
[08:34] <Gobotu> how to quit computer throught console on ubuntu: http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2005-09/LOG_2005-09-13.txt
[08:34] <stromham> Gobotu search how to quit computer through console on ubuntu
[08:34] <Gobotu> how to quit computer through console on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31763.html
[08:34] <stromham> use second link edvinas
[08:34] <stromham> first one has a typo
[08:35] <snoops> stromham gosh that feels like one spamming bot
[08:35] <Madpilot> Edvinas, "sudo shutdown now" works
[08:35] <Trigger_H> Gobotu echo "hi";
[08:35] <Trigger_H> haha :)
[08:35] <XaviusShadow> snoops it utoruns on my xp system but it doesn't on my '98 system
[08:35] <dooglus> Trigger_H: use package 'vncserver' to allow vnc connections when nobody is logged in
[08:35] <stromham> please dont abuse Gobotu i dont want it to get kicked
[08:35] <XaviusShadow> snoops well it sorta autoruns
[08:35] <snoops> XaviusShadow k cool.. just to check the cd actually has the files on it
[08:36] <stromham> snoops im not trying to spam
[08:36] <XaviusShadow> snoops it has the files on it... just checked all 600+ MB
[08:36] <stromham> it has helpout alot of people today
[08:36] <snoops> stromham it feels like it though ;)
[08:36] <Madpilot> stromham, if people do keep poking the bot when they dont' need to, I might ask you to remove it...
[08:36] <stromham> ok i will put a lock on the bot
[08:36] <stromham> so only i can use it
[08:36] <stromham> if they abuse
[08:36] <snoops> there's also the danger of sending people to links you've never looked at yourself
[08:37] <XaviusShadow> snoops so what do you say I should do?
[08:37] <stromham> nah most are good links and help them out
[08:37] <snoops> XaviusShadow umm so you definitely have your cd rom set to first boot device in bios?
[08:37] <XaviusShadow> ayup
[08:37] <stromham> did you burn cd from iso image?
[08:37] <snoops> has booting from cd ever worked for ya?
[08:37] <XaviusShadow> Ayup
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> snoops depends on if my comp wants to love or hate me
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> snoops it wants to hate me tonight
[08:38] <stromham> you went to file>burn cd from iso and then burned it?
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> stromham I used nero and burned it as an image
[08:38] <dooglus> how can I read ".lit" format e-books in ubuntu?
[08:38] <stromham> ok
[08:38] <dooglus> is there a 'clit' package available somewhere?
[08:38] <snoops> dooglus err lit is the microsoft ebook format.. hmm
[08:38] <dooglus> snoops: right.
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> snoops my comp always boots from cds tho, should I download a linux boot disc?
[08:39] <snoops> oh definitely XaviusShadow
[08:39] <raddy> Hello everybody
[08:39] <dooglus> snoops: 'clit' is Convert LIT - it makes it readable without MS software
[08:39] <stromham> Gobotu search how to open .lit files on ubuntu
[08:39] <Gobotu> how to open .lit files on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158821
[08:39] <ice_1963> can i still get gnomebaker?
[08:39] <snoops> it'll just be using el torito which all boot cds use
[08:39] <mikeo1> Gobotu search how to configure lirc
[08:39] <Gobotu> how to configure lirc: http://librenix.com/?inode=8095
[08:39] <raddy> how do i download a file in debuntu without using apt?
[08:39] <dooglus> Gobotu search clit
[08:39] <Gobotu> clit: http://opensource.microarray.omrf.org/wiki/pub/BASE/BASEUserList/clit-59.html
[08:39] <XaviusShadow> snoops I'll download it and copy it to a disc, brb
[08:40] <raddy> can browse the available packages?
[08:40] <XaviusShadow> snoops I'm working on two comps so bear with me
[08:40] <stromham> Gobotu my mission?
[08:40] <Gobotu> my mission is to provide support to the Goubuntu project and to ensure a safe haven for IRC users to talk on.
[08:40] <Savage>  does any one if there is way to configure my current winxp pc if i have a network card install to send internet to my linux box
[08:40] <snoops> XaviusShadow download what? and sure
[08:40] <ianm_> anyone know the name of that tech demo video where it moved smoothly from space to a planet's surface
[08:40] <Madpilot> dooglus, wow... that google search could have been... interesting... ;)
[08:40] <mikeo1> how do i configure lirc
[08:40] <stromham> lol
[08:40] <Madpilot> stromham, does Gobotu use google.com/linux, or what?
[08:40] <dooglus> Madpilot: it wasn't - the result is a 404
[08:40] <stromham> it uses google and ask
[08:40] <byen> Guys, I need some help as this issue is driving me insane.. my Dapper cannot see my external hdd
[08:41] <byen> which Breezy did
[08:41] <byen> flawlessly
[08:41] <Trigger_H> Yes! finally got Samaba to share NTFS partitions!!!
[08:41] <stromham> byen please reword that into a question
[08:41] <dooglus> Madpilot: oh, maybe not.  the terminal program is thinking that the timestamp on the next line is part of the URL
[08:41] <jme_> hey, has anyone installed DRI?
[08:41] <jme_> it's hard!
[08:41] <byen> I have an external USB drive which does not show up anywhere on Dapper
[08:41] <byen> it does not automount
[08:42] <XaviusShadow> snoops what should I download? www.bootdisk.com/linux.htm
[08:42] <byen> and i dont know what to do
[08:42] <stromham> Gobotu search how to use external usb hhd on ubuntu
[08:42] <Gobotu> how to use external usb hhd on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811&page=23
[08:42] <stromham> there byen
[08:42] <snoops> XaviusShadow do you have a floppy drive?
[08:42] <jme_> I'm getting errors trying to compile libdrm - should I just ignore it and use the universe package?
[08:42] <XaviusShadow> snoops I do, use it for everything
[08:42] <stromham> jme
[08:42] <stromham> whats the problem?
[08:42] <Savage> XaviusShadow: why not get ubuntu?
[08:42] <stromham> what are you trung to do?
[08:43] <XaviusShadow> Savage I have it, my cd drive doesn't want to boot from the cd for some reason
[08:43] <SurfnKid> didnt think java would be such a wild adventure
[08:43] <mikeo1> mode2: error opening /dev/lirc
[08:43] <mikeo1> mode2: No such file or directory
[08:43] <jme_> well, I'm getting an error about aclocal when I tryo to compile libdrm, per the instructions at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building
[08:43] <raddy> how do i download a package in debuntu without using apt?
[08:43] <stromham> Gobotu search help on lirc
[08:43] <snoops> raddy wget?
[08:43] <Gobotu> help on lirc: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-45323.html
[08:43] <Savage> in your bois did you change your settings to boot from cd first?
[08:44] <byen> that link shows me how to install ubuntu on an external usb.. all i want is to use an external usb drive
[08:44] <raddy> snoops: but, url?
[08:44] <XaviusShadow> Savage of course I did, My comp just hates me at times
[08:44] <stromham> Gobotu search how to install + compile + libdrm
[08:44] <Gobotu> how to install + compile + libdrm: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CompileXserverManually
[08:44] <Savage> lol, is the jumper on master?
[08:44] <jme_> do I really need to compile X?
[08:44] <jme_> tell me I don't
[08:44] <XaviusShadow> Savage better be, I built the ungrateful POS
[08:44] <stromham> Gobotu search help on lirc on ubuntu
[08:44] <Gobotu> help on lirc on ubuntu: http://list.wylug.org.uk/pipermail/wylug-help/2005-May/003385.html
[08:45] <raddy> snoops: i can't browse its packages using firefox
[08:45] <snoops> raddy.. umm well you should know the url.. wget url.. may end with .deb
[08:45] <hanasaki> can someone test a site and see if it crashes your firefox on ubuntu 6.06?  I have a fresh install of 6.06 and the browser crashes...
[08:45] <Savage> lol, guess it doesnt want to like you today
[08:45] <stromham> sure
[08:45] <stromham> url?
[08:45] <snoops> umm but why would you browse the repositories without using apt raddy?
[08:45] <hanasaki> stromham: can i msg you.. ya need to go through a cuple pages to get there
[08:45] <XaviusShadow> Savage It never likes me, I gave the thing life and it just spits in my face and drinks beer all day, sound like any robots ya know?
[08:46] <kbrosnan> hanasaki, I am interested too
[08:46] <XaviusShadow> snoops 	I'm gonna try one more thing, I'll disable it from booting to anything other than the CD Drive and see if that works
[08:46] <raddy> snoops: i didn't configure it yet, and i wanna get one single package quickly thats why
[08:46] <hanasaki> meet me in #ffcrash
[08:47] <Savage> Xavius: ugh i cant remeber his name the one from futurama right?
[08:47] <SurfnKid> beerfan: got it man thanx
[08:47] <snoops> raddy apt-get install packagename.. what's there to configure?
[08:47] <XaviusShadow> Savage: Correct, Bender
[08:47] <hanasaki> stromham:  meet me in #ffcrash
[08:47] <byen> !external hd
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about external hd
[08:47] <raddy> snoops:we should first add the repo na?
[08:48] <SurfnKid> beerfan: downloaded jre and bin files, ran them as the instructions say and installed
[08:48] <jme_> any idea why I'd get errors with aclocal, or why Ubuntu doesn't come with aclocal to start?
[08:48] <byen> !external hard disc
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about external hard disc
[08:48] <byen> *sigh*
[08:48] <jme_> !mount
[08:48] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[08:48] <tritium> SurfnKid: you know that there are sun java packages in dapper multiverse?
[08:48] <dooglus> jme_: ubuntu is for end users.  end users don't need aclocal?
[08:48] <beerfan> SurfnKid, oh? Add remove didn't work?
[08:48] <byen> thanks jme :)
[08:48] <jme_> I need aclocal!
[08:48] <litage> hey guys, what's port 0 (zero) used for? i just found this in my logs:   list 155 permitted tcp <IP_ADDRESS>(0) -> <IP_ADDRESS>(0), 1 packet
[08:48] <Savage> !network
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[08:48] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jdk
[08:48] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[08:49] <Savage> !networking
[08:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[08:49] <Trigger_H> !life
[08:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[08:49] <jme_> well, I'm trying to get it, but I don't see any packages providing it
[08:49] <Savage> lol trigger
[08:49] <snoops> raddy oh if you have a seperate url.. you should just be able to go in a web browser.. definitely.. like the address + the /whatever at the end
[08:49] <Trigger_H> sorry
[08:49] <leboff> Here's a fun one.. I  have 1 500 GB drive and 1 160 GB drive .. how can i save 250 GB of files from the 500 drive  without buying a new drive (the 500 drive cant be partitioned.. fakeraid.. RAID 0)
[08:49] <stromham> Gobotu search network
[08:49] <Gobotu> network: http://www.networksolutions.com/
[08:49] <jme_> any idea how I might get aclocal?
[08:50] <hanasaki> stromham: you coming?
[08:50] <stromham> Gobotu search how to get aclocal on ubuntu
[08:50] <Gobotu> how to get aclocal on ubuntu: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/f-spot-list/2005-August/msg00115.html
[08:50] <byen> can anyone tell me how i can manually mount my external hd
[08:50] <raddy> snoops: this the apt repo source http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse
[08:50] <byen> i dont want to install win just to use my ext usb hd drive
[08:50] <raddy> snoops: how can i browse the packages using a browser?
[08:50] <stromham> Gobotu search how to manually mount a external hard drive on ubuntu
[08:50] <Gobotu> how to manually mount a external hard drive on ubuntu: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Add_a_new_hard_drive
[08:51] <Savage> would it be possible to route the internet through my winxp computer?
[08:51] <beerfan> byen, 'man mount'. it depends what filesystem it has
[08:51] <byen> fat32
[08:51] <SurfnKid> hey tritium how ya goin...  well actually running breezy so had to do the manual download of packages, but installed correctly, i bringg up java runtime on my browser yey :)
[08:51] <KenSentMe|zzz> Does anyone know how i can add an emailaddress to my gpg key?
[08:51] <SurfnKid> beerfan: remove not sure, didnt run it
[08:51] <XaviusShadow> snoops what boot disk should I download from www.bootdisk.com/linux.htm to boot it from floppy and run the cd?
[08:51] <tritium> SurfnKid: oh, I see :)
[08:51] <snoops> still no go XaviusShadow?
[08:51] <XaviusShadow> snoops nope
[08:51] <stromham> Gobotu search how to add an email adress to gpg key
[08:51] <Gobotu> how to add an email adress to gpg key: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/doc/html/ar01s04.html
[08:52] <Madpilot> stromham, many of the things you're hitting Gobotu for already have !tells in ubotu...
[08:52] <snoops> XaviusShadow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203586
[08:52] <raddy> snoops: for example i wanna download gaim-libnotify from there, how do i?
[08:52] <Trigger_H> XaviusShadow: USB boot not an option?
[08:53] <XaviusShadow> Trigger_H What do you mean by USB boot?
[08:53] <Trigger_H> Some mobos let you boot off of USB pen drives
[08:53] <stromham> Gobotu search how to download gaim-libnotify on ubuntu + synaptic package manager
[08:53] <Gobotu> how to download gaim-libnotify on ubuntu + synaptic package manager: http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10282&offset=15&rows=30&threshold=-1
[08:53] <XaviusShadow> Trigger_H: No I don't have any USB drives
[08:53] <SurfnKid> tritium: now im just running some VoIP tests thru this java pluggin, and got mooore forum readin to do. we have communication probelms. bleh. :P
[08:53] <Savage> !wine
[08:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:53] <[Ex0r] > is there any software out for ubuntu that you can use to burn .bin, .iso, .cue files ?
[08:54] <snoops> [Ex0r]  for iso you can just right click the iso and click burn
[08:54] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I already have it on a cd, I don't want to have to wait another 5 hrs for ubuntu to download and install again, is there a way to get a boot disk that will install it from the cd?
[08:54] <dooglus> [Ex0r] : nautilus can burn .iso files
[08:54] <tritium> SurfnKid: ah, sorry to hear
[08:54] <[Ex0r] > what about .bin files ?
[08:54] <stromham> Gobotu search how to burn .bin .iso .cue files on ubuntu
[08:54] <Gobotu> how to burn .bin .iso .cue files on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22262.html
[08:54] <snoops> XaviusShadow read the link..
[08:54] <dooglus> [Ex0r] : mplayer can play .bin files, but I don't know about burning them
[08:54] <Savage> any one know how to route internet through a winxp computer with a network card
[08:55] <Healot> extension is fake... file would check the type for you
[08:55] <mikeo1> kernel headers are the same thing as kernel source right?
[08:55] <tritium> mikeo1: no
[08:55] <stromham> Gobotu search how to route internet through a windows xp computer with a network card on ubuntu
[08:55] <Gobotu> how to route internet through a windows xp computer with a network card on ubuntu: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/41307-internet-sharing.html
[08:55] <tritium> stromham: please stop that
[08:55] <mikeo1> nm found it
[08:55] <coopster> ok, trying to boot the ubuntu dapper 6.06 livecd, and it hangs.  i have a ubuntu install on the hard drive, and it hangs.  they all hang during boot up, on the splash screen it's when "Mounting root filesystem," but with "quiet splash" removed from the boot params, it hangs immediately after trying to load the OHCI, can someone pls help?
[08:56] <tritium> mikeo1: if you're building kernel modules, you only need headers, though
[08:56] <mikeo1> nope guide needs the source
[08:56] <mikeo1> because for some reason lirc is a pain in the ass to install for ubuntu
[08:56] <tritium> guide?  for what?
[08:56] <stromham> tritium it has been helping out people all day
[08:56] <mikeo1> and the package is broken
[08:56] <byen> thanks for the help anyways guys.. I guess i might as well have win installed.. i dont think my ext hd can work on dapper. but what pisses me off is that it workeed great out of the box on breezy
[08:56] <mikeo1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30612&highlight=lirc
[08:56] <tritium> stromham: ubotu has been helping people out for over a year
[08:56] <stromham> mike01
[08:56] <dooglus> Gobotu search how to rid an IRC channel of noisy bots
[08:56] <Gobotu> how to rid an IRC channel of noisy bots: http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/applications/mirc/1010445/
[08:56] <stromham> one more try ok?
[08:57] <mikeo1> ?
[08:57] <[Ex0r] > im not trying to mount the file, im trying to burn it to a cd
[08:57] <stromham> Gobotu search how to install lirc on ubuntu
[08:57] <Gobotu> how to install lirc on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20952.html
[08:57] <Savage> stromham that link it gave me might work lol
[08:57] <stromham> ok
[08:57] <XaviusShadow> snoops: So I should download instlux and do it that way?
[08:57] <stromham> see
[08:57] <dooglus> Gobotu: that link is a review of mIRC!  can't you make your results linux-related at least?
[08:57] <Gobotu> no clue
[08:57] <stromham> i help
[08:57] <tritium> *sigh*
[08:57] <snoops> stromham k3b may be able to burn it.. there are converters.. to convert bin/cue to iso
[08:58] <snoops> XaviusShadow well that page talks about using a floppy cd to boot into it, then get the system running enough to boot into linux.. but it doesn't sound like a fun solution at all
[08:58] <byen> would it help if i remove dapper and reinstall breezy and upgrade?
[08:58] <tich> what program places icons on the desktop?
[08:59] <Healot> !info bchunk
[08:59] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[08:59] <coopster> I cant get any form of ubuntu to boot on my nForce based mobo.  it all hangs when loading the OHCI support.  any help would be appreciated
[08:59] <coopster> pls
[08:59] <snoops> tich isn't just everything from /home/username/Desktop automatically placed on the desktop?
[08:59] <tritium> stromham: please remove Gobotu.  Please ask before introducing new bots to official chanels.
[08:59] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Well I don't really have much of a choice, I mean it says I can download instlux in one of the site links then make it install from the cd or the network without having to redownload.
[08:59] <Madpilot> tich, nautilus actually handles the icons, but anything can have an icon on your desktop
[08:59] <stromham> Gobotu search application to place icons to the desktop on ubuntu
[08:59] <Gobotu> application to place icons to the desktop on ubuntu: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy
[08:59] <tritium> channels, even
[08:59] <stromham> Gobotu sleep
[08:59] <raddy> snoops: this the apt repo source http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse, how can i go into it via web browser
[08:59] <mman> hi all
[08:59] <coopster> Gobotu part
[08:59] <Gobotu> insufficient "join" auth (have 10, need 50)
[08:59] <coopster> ...
[08:59] <coopster> lol
[09:00] <tich> snoops: yes but what decides where on the desktop to place it?
[09:00] <stromham> leave it alone when i type sleep
[09:00] <Gobotu> tritium: :(
[09:00] <Eleaf> Does anybody at all here have vmplayer working???
[09:00] <snoops> tich if i were programming it, I'd just loop through the spaces, and find the first free one then assign it to that
[09:00] <stromham> gimme a sec
[09:00] <stromham> i will kill him
[09:00] <tritium> Thank you
[09:00] <coopster> bah, anyone awake enough to help me out?  been struggling with this ubuntu all day
[09:01] <tich> snoops: would it be metacity or the window manager?
[09:01] <coopster> gobotu quit
[09:01] <Madpilot> stromham, auto-rejoin is not cool, especially in bots...
[09:01] <stromham> Gobotu kill
[09:01] <stromham> Gobotu part
[09:01] <Gobotu> insufficient "join" auth (have 10, need 50)
[09:01] <stromham> lol
[09:01] <Eleaf> Does anybody have vmplayer working? lol
[09:01] <snoops> oh umm the window manager tich.. for instance I use compiz instead of metacity, and it doesn't affect icon placement
[09:01] <stromham> Gobotu quit
[09:01] <Gobotu> insufficient "quit" auth (have 10, need 90)
[09:01] <stromham> 1 sec
[09:01] <stromham> im going into his teerminal
[09:02] <CrippsFX> Gobotu, STFU
[09:02] <mikeo1> how do i get the kernel source
[09:02] <stromham> q sec
[09:02] <CrippsFX> :P
[09:02] <coopster> ok, trying to boot the ubuntu dapper 6.06 livecd, and it hangs.  i have a ubuntu install on the hard drive, and it hangs.  they all hang during boot up, on the splash screen it's when "Mounting root filesystem," but with "quiet splash" removed from the boot params, it hangs immediately after trying to load the OHCI, can someone pls help?
[09:02] <stromham> 1 sec
[09:02] <stromham> im shutting him down
[09:02] <mikeo1> for 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:02] <timfrost> !info linux-source
[09:02] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:02] <mikeo1> i cant find it
[09:03] <tich> snoops: yeah i use openbox and it always places my icons under my top panel. do you know how to adjust it?
[09:03] <mikeo1> dpkg -L linux-image-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic there is not main dir
[09:03] <snoops> tich gnome settings in gconf-editor?
[09:03] <mikeo1> its scattered everywhere
[09:03] <stromham> you guys have issues
[09:03] <mikeo1> where can i get the source in 1 file
[09:03] <stromham> dont want a useful program that has helped ot alot fo people today
[09:04] <tritium> stromham: we have ubotu, and he's been around a lot longer than a day, and is our official bot
[09:04] <stromham> i dont care
[09:04] <coopster> yay, so stfu about it then
[09:04] <mikeo1> root@mikesbeastlinux:/usr/src# apt-get source 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic          E: Unable to find a source package for 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:04] <mikeo1> WTF?
[09:04] <t> hi. had anybody success running tracker?
[09:04] <stromham> just because something is helping
[09:04] <tich> snoops: okay i'll check it out.
[09:05] <mikeo1> where are these ubuntu people hiding there kernel source
[09:05] <tritium> stromham: you are mistaken
[09:05] <stromham> he will be back...
[09:05] <stromham> someday
[09:05] <mikeo1> ubuntu is sucking right now for lack of a source file
[09:05] <efox> how do you create a tar in another directory ?
[09:05] <tritium> stromham: please abide by the channel policies
[09:05] <snoops> tich I may be completely off the mark.. I've asked gnome questions in #gnome before and well.. completely unhelpful.. so uhh I suggest searching forums and whatnot
[09:05] <stromham> he only helped like 100+ users in a day
[09:05] <efox> im trying to create a backup of a folder in my /home and i want to store it else where, but its not working
[09:05] <Madpilot> stromham, it's an intesting idea, but we've already got a couple of bots in residence, and ubotu can be chatty enough already...
[09:05] <tritium> stromham: enough
[09:06] <stromham> no
[09:06] <tich> snoops: do you know where it would be? --i assume it is under desktop but i don't know where to go from there.
[09:06] <stromham> i have full rights to talk
[09:06] <KenSentMe> When i add myself to launchpad i see my mailaddresses in plain text. Isn't that what spammers use to collect mailaddresses?
[09:06] <stromham> constitution
[09:06] <mikeo1> WHERE IS THE KERNEL SOURCE
[09:06] <snoops> tich your guess is as good as mine, sorry :/
[09:06] <tritium> mikeo1: calm down, people have told you
[09:06] <stromham> well i could tell you if i had gobotu
[09:06] <mikeo1> gobotu is useless
[09:06] <mikeo1> google will bring up a bunch of junk on nvidia
[09:07] <coopster> stromham:  if you want to be helpful, go google it yourself and then privmsg him.
[09:07] <tritium> stromham: we also have a code of conduct here, and we've asked you nicely.
[09:07] <stromham> that dumb
[09:07] <coopster> don't spam the channel with 1 line of you asking and 1 line of a random url
[09:07] <Eleaf> Nobody has vmplayer working here?!
[09:07] <mikeo1> so does anyone know where it is?
[09:07] <stromham> and i also have full rights to say what i want
[09:07] <timfrost> mikeo1,if you need the source, and not just the headers, the critical meta-package is linux-source
[09:07] <stromham> im not spamming
[09:07] <stromham> and im not cussing
[09:07] <mikeo1> what is that
[09:07] <Healot> I am spamming lots of mail accounts
[09:07] <coopster> stromham:  news flash - this aint america, this is the internet.  you don't have "rights" here, you have a chan op who has told you to drop it.  do so.
[09:07] <Healot> legally hohoho
[09:08] <stromham> yes i do have rights i have treaties to protect what i say
[09:08] <tritium> stromham: you're _strongle_ encouraged to stay on topic
[09:08] <snoops> omg stromham.. off topic.. -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <tritium> strongly, even
[09:08] <onispawn> you guys need to take this conversation else where. this is a support channel
[09:08] <stromham> and the freenode servers are in ca in usa
[09:08] <stromham> im done now
[09:08] <mikeo1> THIS IS A SUPPORT CHANNEL!!!!!!! now where is the kernel source for 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:09] <coopster> speaking of which, i cant get the ubuntu live cd or an installed version to boot on my nforce based motherboard because it hangs when loading the OHCI support, can someone please help me diagnose/fix this?
[09:09] <snoops> nforce 1,2,3,4 coopster?
[09:09] <tritium> mikeo1: you'll find people are more willing to help if you're patient and not insistent
[09:09] <DarkMageZ> mikeo1, no-one here is paid to help you, so no-one here has to. second, you have already been told
[09:09] <Madpilot> stromham, there are actually Freenode servers all over the world - but that's a topic to be continued on #ubuntu-offtopic, if at all
[09:09] <mikeo1> i dont think i have been told
[09:09] <tritium> you have, someone even got info on the source package for you from ubotu
[09:10] <coopster> snoops:  its an asus A8N-VM mobo, with the nForce430 southbridge
[09:10] <snoops> coopster checked the forums for people with similar issues (I had zero issues with my nforce4)
[09:10] <mikeo1> lol ctrl-w quits in xchat, too used to nano
[09:10] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I have another question if you don't mind
[09:11] <coopster> snoops:  googled for half the day, i can not find anything like this
[09:11] <snoops> :(.. gotta go need to get home
[09:11] <tritium> mikeo1: you're using dapper
[09:11] <tritium> ?
[09:11] <coopster> ah well
[09:11] <coopster> !source
[09:11] <mikeo1> yes
[09:11] <stromham> you guys are assholes and have pissed me off im sorry my bot helped people and made your obsolete. you need to lower you dam egos and just accept help
[09:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:11] <Random1> does anyone know anything about vsftpd?
[09:12] <Healot> me an asshole, yes I am
[09:12] <XaviusShadow> can someone tell me what I would insert when using these commands to install linux with loadlin from a cd "loadlin  name_of_kernel  initrd=name_of_initrd  distribution_specific_options
[09:12] <coopster> rofl @ that guy
[09:12] <tritium> mikeo1: you'll see above someone pointed out the kernel-source package
[09:12] <tritium> Healot: watch the language
[09:12] <tritium> !info kernel-source
[09:12] <mikeo1> linux-source-2.6.15
[09:12] <ubotu> Package kernel-source does not exist in dapper
[09:12] <mikeo1> lol
[09:12] <tritium> mikeo1: linux-source
[09:12] <tritium> my bad
[09:12] <mikeo1> will linux-source-2.6.15 work with 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:13] <tritium> mikeo1: sure, the source is for all archs
[09:13] <mikeo1> ok didnt know that, thanks
[09:13] <XaviusShadow> anyone know?
[09:15] <mikeo1> if i upgrade from 2.6.15 will my drivers still work, or will i have to recompile
[09:15] <foxiness> hi
[09:15] <XaviusShadow> stromham do you know?
[09:15] <Random1> can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable the shift + Backspace restarting xserver?
[09:15] <tritium> XaviusShadow: he took his toys and went home, since he was upset
[09:15] <XaviusShadow> damn, I need help getting this installed
[09:15] <Lobster> uninstall xserver
[09:15] <Lobster> *g*
[09:15] <Random1> don't be a n00b
[09:16] <Random1> anyone"
[09:16] <Random1> ?*
[09:16] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to use loadlin to install linux from a cd
[09:16] <tarjei> Hi, should the evms pacakge be installed on breezy by default?
[09:16] <dli> Random1, for xorg, it's Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[09:16] <XaviusShadow> but I can't figure out what I should tell loadlin to find
[09:16] <XaviusShadow> the command is loadlin  name_of_kernel  initrd=name_of_initrd  distribution_specific_options
[09:16] <Random1> well im just hitting shift backspace and it does it
[09:17] <DarkMageZ> Random1, shift+backspace doesn't restart the normal xserver, are u running a modified version? such as xgl?
[09:17] <Random1> yes
[09:17] <Random1> yes i am
[09:17] <tritium> XaviusShadow: this is an ubuntu support channel.  Do you have an ubuntu question?
[09:17] <foxiness> after i remove firestarter and shorewall ,did this will put me in new problem? or it will return me to orginal status
[09:17] <DarkMageZ> Random1, please goto #ubuntu-xgl for that question
[09:17] <Random1> ok
[09:17] <Random1> now my next question..
[09:17] <XaviusShadow> tritum that is a ubuntu question... I'm trying to install ubuntu and my comp won't boot from the cd...
[09:17] <Random1> how do i set up FTP access to my www directory on my ubuntu server
[09:17] <XaviusShadow> tritium... sorry
[09:17] <tritium> XaviusShadow: you said linux (generically), and didn't specify ubuntu
[09:18] <Eleaf> nobody has ever used vmware here?
[09:18] <XaviusShadow> well I'm talking about ubuntu
[09:18] <Eleaf> nobody??
[09:18] <Eleaf> vmplayer??
[09:18] <foxiness> nobody mean nobody here :)
[09:18] <mikeo1> i have used vmware
[09:18] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to install it and my comp won't boot from the cd, I need to figure out a way to have it boot from a floppy and install from the cd
[09:18] <mikeo1> not vmplayer
[09:18] <Eleaf> lol
[09:18] <mikeo1> the real version
[09:18] <mikeo1> installed vista in it lol
[09:19] <jme> so, any ideas on aclocal?
[09:19] <foxiness> after i remove firestarter and shorewall ,did this will put me in new problem? or it will return me to orginal status
[09:20] <jme> I can't find source for it or anything, urg
[09:20] <tritium> foxiness: please rephrase your question, with more detail, so we know what you're trying to ask us
[09:20] <dli> XaviusShadow, http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en
[09:22] <foxiness> tritium, its safe to remove this firewall app , and it will not broken my network connection
[09:22] <DarkMageZ> Random1, you could either install & setup an ftp server, or you could just access those files via ssh
[09:23] <krinns> hi all
[09:23] <tritium> foxiness: it won't break your network connection
[09:23] <foxiness> hi krinns
[09:23] <krinns> is there any tool for fw i kubuntu
[09:23] <foxiness> tritium, thanks
[09:23] <krinns> as we have susefirewall in suse
[09:23] <krinns> what abt kubuntu
[09:23] <XaviusShadow> dli: Thanks, now I'm getting somewhere
[09:29] <Random1> DarkMage, i have an FTP server installed but i dont know how to set it up
[09:29] <jme> krinns: Linux is a firewall :)
[09:29] <jme> !firewall
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:30] <raddy> How do i directly download from apt source?
[09:30] <nile> raddy, what do you mean?
[09:31] <ruxpin_> raddy: apt-get?
[09:31] <raddy> nile: a web site posted only apt source, but how can i download packages using browser
[09:32] <nile> raddy, you have to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:32] <nile> raddy, then you update your package repositories - then you can use synaptic :)
[09:32] <mikeo1> make modules takes too long
[09:32] <Madpilot> raddy, if you've got web access, you're far better off using apt-get to download packages
[09:32] <raddy> nile: can't i download the package without apt?
[09:32] <mikeo1> make needs to be SMP so it can use both cores
[09:33] <nile> raddy, maybe I don't know what you mean. what does the website provide? an apt repository or a dpkg package?
[09:34] <raddy> nile: http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse how to get into this url using browser?
[09:34] <Random1> how do i browse folder in Nautilas in root if im doing it over SSH?
[09:36] <Madpilot> raddy, that's not quite a URL - seriously, let apt-get deal with packages, it's far easier than trying to download stuff manually
[09:37] <killaz> hi how can I make sure that I removed an application with his configuration files...
[09:37] <killaz> so instead of apt-get remove ****
[09:38] <snoops> apt-get remove --purge packagename
[09:38] <raddy> Madpilot: i have not yet configured the source in apt, but can't i get into that using browser? how do apt reads a path when contain spaces?
[09:38] <nile> raddy, you can't. add that line to your /etc/apt/sources.list then use apt to get it
[09:38] <nile> raddy, look in your existing /etc/apt/sources.list. they ALL have spaces :)
[09:39] <raddy> nile: how does apt deals with it?
[09:39] <nile> raddy, I don't know
[09:40] <nile> it grabs the package listing from the URL and figures out which packages are available from it
[09:40] <nile> but I'm not familiar with the details
[09:40] <mikechong1010> hi
[09:41] <mikechong1010> hello anyone there?
[09:43] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16824   <---how can i fix it??
[09:43] <nile> mikechong1010, people are here
[09:44] <killaz> snoops, thnx!
[09:45] <lucas> somebody know a simple alternative to cinepaint ?
[09:45] <nile> elknof1, are you running that when X has started? is that the entire output?
[09:45] <ALDI> Hi! I want to setup a FTP server on ubuntu, but "sudo apt--get install proftpd" doesn't work. The package could'nt be found. The pc has no internet connection...
[09:46] <nile> ALDI, if the pc doesn't have an internet connection, how are you providing the proftpd package? (and how do you host an ftp server that isn't connected to the internet?)
[09:47] <ALDI> nile: so proftpd isn't on the server install cd? the ftp server is going to be uses as a lan webserver where the html pages are going to be uploaded via ftp
[09:47] <Warbo> lucas: If you want to add graphics to a video then maybe render your graphics as an AVI with an alpha channel (mencoder?), then merge it on top of the original video with a video editor like LiVES or Kino
[09:47] <elknof1> nile, yup...
[09:47] <gore_> does anyone know how to change the setting of a gnome panel so its not always ontop?
[09:48] <mikeo1> drag it down
[09:48] <gore_> talking to me/
[09:48] <elknof1> nile, in runned it under konsole actually...  and that is the entire output
[09:48] <raddy> how sources.list works?
[09:48] <elknof1> i runned*
[09:48] <Warbo> gore_: Maybe don't use it expanded?
[09:49] <leeyee> Hey guys!
[09:49] <bigfoot1> i've got a folder of text files. how can i do a cli search for text within the files in one directory?
[09:49] <leeyee> Anyone who uses ASUS notebook?
[09:49] <gore_> oh yah warbo
[09:49] <gore_> =]
[09:50] <Warbo> raddy: "deb" or "deb-src" tells APT whether a repository is binary or source, the URL is obviously the location of the packages then the rest of the line is which distribution and sections should be used (usually to differentiiate between free and non-free or stable and cutting edge)
[09:51] <raddy> Warbo: okk, so http://example.com/foo.deb would exists?
[09:51] <nile> elknof1, er, so X is working? what's the problem, then?
[09:51] <raddy> Warbo: or, is it has any directory structure?
[09:52] <Warbo> raddy: "deb http://example.com ubuntu main" would probably be more accurate. The packages are stored in a folder called "pool" by the way
[09:52] <raddy> Warbo: ohh
[09:53] <Warbo> raddy: The structure is "[URL] /pool/[section] /[initial letter] /[package name] /package.deb
[09:53] <caturOK> hello
[09:54] <raddy> Warbo: great job, thank you
[09:54] <caturOK> can i ask something about chillispot here
[09:56] <Random1> what's the command to copy a directory to another location?
[09:56] <Warbo> Random1: "cp -r directory newlocation"
[09:56] <Random1> ty
[09:57] <elknof1> its an error in mplayer...     wait  i'll show you the output on mplayer...
[09:57] <elknof1> nile, its an error in mplayer...     wait  i'll show you the output on mplayer...
[09:59] <Meshyf> Anyone willing to help a ubuntu noob out?
[09:59] <Warbo> Meshyf: What's the problem?
[09:59] <KenSentMe> Meshyf: just ask your question
[10:00] <nile> !ask
[10:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:00] <Meshyf> I was reading the wiki and it said that you could install it with the freespace from your window's partition. Does it have to be free space away from the partition or can it use free space on the partition?
[10:00] <Random1> what's the command to do a reboot?
[10:00] <tct> hi I just installed ubuntu on another computer but the network isnt working
[10:00] <SVisor> Random1: sudo shutdown -r now
[10:00] <raddy> Warbo: i'll frankly describe my purpose, i am using suse, i want convert gaim-libnotify debian package available from http://repository.debuntu.org/
[10:00] <Random1> ty
[10:00] <KenSentMe> Random1: if your are in terminal type sudo reboot
[10:00] <Warbo> Meshyf: It has to be out of the partition. You can shrink a Windows partition to free up some space
[10:01] <Meshyf> How do I go about shrinking it?
[10:01] <tct> I tried everything I know but cant get it to work
[10:01] <Warbo> !gparted
[10:01] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:01] <raddy> Warbo: i know how to convert the package once i get it
[10:01] <Lynoure> Meshyf: I thought the installation can repartition for you, by changing the size of the original partition
[10:01] <Healot> !departed
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about departed
[10:01] <Lynoure> I'm sure dapper beta did that for me.
[10:01] <Warbo> Meshyf: Check out that LiveCD link
[10:01] <raddy> Warbo: bit i donno how to get it, because it has only yast source
[10:02] <Warbo> raddy: I don;t know how Yast works sorry
[10:02] <Meshyf> I was looking during the install for the partitioning help but it was unclear.
[10:02] <Warbo> AA! I have got to stop using semicolons instead of apostrophies!
[10:02] <tct> anyone?
[10:02] <elknof1> nile:
[10:02] <elknof1> it seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.
[10:02] <elknof1> Run 'xvinfo'to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv!
[10:02] <elknof1> See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv)video drivers. Try -vo x11
[10:03] <raddy> Warbo: you don't need to, yast doesn't support apt, but how do i obtain that package?
[10:03] <Healot> elknof1: are you using 3D acceleration?
[10:03] <Warbo> elknof1: Change the video output in Preferences to X11
[10:03] <elknof1> sorry  it was to pastebin... my mystake
[10:03] <Warbo> raddy: What I mean is that I don't understand the sturcture that Yast uses (if any) so I wouldn't know where the package would be found
[10:04] <tct> so I have a computer without a working network connection that wont even respond to ping what do I do?
[10:04] <Schalken> is flash player 8 available for linux?
[10:04] <bloads> Hey guys how do I uninstall GRUB?  I need to format this whole machine, and Ubuntu is the only OS on it.
[10:04] <elknof1> i been trying using 3d acceleration, but not succesfully...  (mobility radeon 9000) i think theres a bug-i read so-           and what video output should i use then??
[10:04] <pvd2006> If I already have 3 primary partitons and one extended partition and I resized one partition into two, how can I create a new partition to put a bootable operating system onto?
[10:05] <Warbo> Meshyf: It is quite straight forward. Open up GParted (the partitioning tool) click on your partition then go "move/resize" (I think) and drag the right-hand end of the box over to the left. Then apply the changes
[10:05] <Warbo> Schalken: Only in WINE
[10:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> i have a problem now, the kernel installed on my ubuntu machine doesnt have a kernel header package!
[10:05] <tct> ...
[10:05] <caturOK> can i ask something about chillispot here
[10:05] <raddy> Warbo: the package won't be found in yast, it is only in that site i said
[10:05] <Schalken> bloads: GRUB installs configures itself automatically if ubuntu detects another operating system during the install. if you to configure it after installing, i dont know...
[10:05] <caturOK> anybody here know chillispot
[10:05] <Meshyf> Thanks a lot man :D
[10:05] <Meshyf> I'll try it out.
[10:05] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: The packages all have headers, if it is custom then you use the source (headers are just a cut-down source)
[10:06] <Schalken> Warbo: thanks
[10:06] <Schalken> !grub
[10:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> its the standard ubuntu kernel version 2.6.12-9-386
[10:06] <Warbo> Schalken: Install Windows Firefox in WINE then go on a Flash based site
[10:06] <bloads> So GRUB will go away if I just install Windows right now?
[10:07] <bloads> And later on I can just destroy this partition
[10:07] <Warbo> raddy: I would just suggest moving around the site in a browser until you find the package
[10:07] <SVisor> bloads: Windows will install its own bootloader yes
[10:07] <bloads> Awesome, thanks
[10:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> !offtopic
[10:07] <tct> I installed ubuntu on my windows xp box which words perfectly fine in a second partition, Now I cant access the network ... the computer does not even respond to ping now. Can someone help me here?
[10:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:08] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, flash 8 will never be available for linux, flash 9 is available for windows
[10:08] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: is there any reason why?
[10:08] <SVisor> tct: You do not give much to go on. Do your system have two (or more) network cards?
[10:08] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, we should have flash 9 on linux in early 2007, and if not, some adobe developers will probley get run down =D
[10:08] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: That is the standard one for breezy. linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 should be in the repos
[10:08] <Pharaoh_Atem> its not there
[10:08] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: lol, cool, thanks
[10:08] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, adobe are lazy !@#$'s. so they skiped flash 8 for linux
[10:08] <raddy> Warbo: the site only provides apt source, but as per your instruction i can't get into their repository using browser
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> Warbo: look http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/
[10:09] <cyphase> http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2005/09/13/aol_idiots.php
[10:09] <tct> SVisor : It has 2 network cards one is onboard but disabled in the bios and the other is in  pci card
[10:10] <tct> could ubuntu have somehow detected the onboard nic even though it is disabled in the bios?
[10:10] <elknof1> Schalken: acces this page    www.dodge.com.mx, then click on download flashplayer. it will redirect to the download place, the download the tar file there, untar, go to the dir where you untar the file, then ./flashplayer-installer
[10:10] <dutoitd> How do i mount a windows fat32 partition after the installation?
[10:10] <SVisor> tct: in a CLI try "dmesg | fgrep eth0" should show if Ubuntu sees the HW
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> tct, yes
[10:10] <raddy> anybody has gaim-libnotify  ?
[10:10] <elknof1> !gparted
[10:10] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:11] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: What is the problem? I see http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[10:11] <Schalken> elknof1: yes i have flashplayer 7, but not 8, which is apparently unnavaliable
[10:11] <tct> SVisor, Pharaoh_Atem> ok I have to run back over to that pc to try it
[10:11] <elknof1> uhh..  ok....   well  it doesnt exist for linux...
[10:11] <cute_bettong> hi im trying to remove transgaming point2play cedega from my system
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> Warbo, i found it, they changed the names afterwards
[10:12] <cute_bettong> and it wont leave the gnome menu is there a way to get it outta my menus?
[10:12] <caturOK> hm
[10:12] <Amaranth> Pharaoh_Atem: Ubuntu has always used linux-source, linux-headers, and linux-image for it's kernel packages.
[10:12] <Schalken> what's firefox's installation path? (/usr/lib/..........?)
[10:12] <caturOK> no anybody know about chillispot here
[10:12] <dutoitd> How do i mount a windows partition to ubuntu after installation?
[10:12] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: "kernel-image/source/headers" is for 2.4, they changed to "linux-image/source/headers" with 2.6 (since Debian can use HURD, FreeBSD, etc.)
[10:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> ahh
[10:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> well
[10:13] <caturOK> firefox install at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/
[10:13] <Lobster> dutoitd, ask the wiki
[10:13] <Schalken> caturOK: thanks
[10:13] <caturOK> mount about windows
[10:13] <caturOK> i know about that
[10:13] <Warbo> !mount
[10:13] <caturOK> u mean u want rw and r right
[10:13] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[10:14] <neenaoffline> I've installed wdm and I want to switch back , I tried editing the default manager config file to "/usr/bin/gdm" but that does not work :(
[10:14] <caturOK> /dev/hda5       /u dir fat        vfat    defaults,rw,user,umask=000      0       0
[10:14] <caturOK> example
[10:14] <caturOK> ntfs different
[10:14] <tct> SVisor, Pharaoh_Atem: I am not familar with the name it gave me, but it dint have the cnet pro name in it
[10:14] <Warbo> neenaoffline: Maybe install and run "galternatives"
[10:14] <caturOK> edit u /etc/fstab
[10:14] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[10:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:15] <caturOK> how about me
[10:15] <caturOK> i ask
[10:15] <caturOK> something chillispot here
[10:15] <caturOK> anybody know abouot that
[10:15] <Amaranth> caturOK: Never heard of it, sorry.
[10:15] <caturOK> how about
[10:15] <tct> so it could be using my disabled nic, if so how can I stop it from doing that
[10:15] <caturOK> nocat
[10:15] <SVisor> tct:  How do you give IP to your system? (DHCP?)
[10:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> tct, it doesnt neccessarily recognize as you would
[10:15] <Amaranth> caturOK: Nope.
[10:15] <caturOK> T_T
[10:15] <tct> I disabled dhcp and use a static ip address
[10:16] <tct> I gave all my computers a static ip after I got fed up of them changing (my router dosent support static dhcp)
[10:16] <SVisor> tct: The quick and ugly test would be to switch the cable to the other card and try again.
[10:19] <chetan> hi all. when i try to install automatix and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in the terminal nothing happens. can anyone help?
[10:19] <tct> ok brb
[10:20] <caturOK> anybody here know about authentication hotspot
[10:21] <caturOK> do u have install gtk
[10:21] <caturOK> or clib
[10:21] <caturOK> glib i mean
[10:21] <Lobster> you want to edit it in the terminal?
[10:21] <caturOK> terminal use
[10:21] <caturOK> vim
[10:21] <caturOK> nano
[10:21] <caturOK> joe
[10:21] <caturOK> pico
[10:21] <Lobster> then type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <Lobster> www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:21] <tct> SVisor the onboard one isnt working ... the light on the switch didnt even come on
[10:21] <snoops> chetan using kde?
[10:21] <Meshyf> ok I'm back on that live Cd now
[10:22] <Spleenfeeder> Is it possible to change the 2nd of two distinct gnome desktops' window decoration without affecting the first desktop? (note no xinerama or twinview)
[10:22] <chetan> snoops: - using ubuntu breezy
[10:22] <Meshyf> What kind of partition should I use for Ubuntu?
[10:22] <tct> I used a ext3
[10:22] <snoops> chetan ah.. that should have gedit.. gosh.. sudo apt-get install gedit is one option, for a gui editor.. or you can use nano like lobster suggested
[10:23] <snoops> Meshyf yep ext3 is a safe bet
[10:23] <Meshyf> Even with an NTFS parttion for windows on the smae drive?
[10:23] <Random1> whats the command to copy a single file to another location?
[10:23] <Healot> !smp
[10:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about smp
[10:23] <tct> make sure you dont delet any portion of the NTFS drive to make room for linux
[10:23] <Spleenfeeder> cp file /path/to/file1newplace
[10:23] <thefish> Random1: cp /path/to/file /path/to/new/location/
[10:23] <tct> that will mess up windows
[10:24] <snoops> Meshyf if you want to be really smart though, you could have 3 partitions.. a swap one (rule of thumb is twice your ram), a ext3 one for / (around 15-20gb) and /home for the rest
[10:24] <Random1> ty
[10:24] <Meshyf> Thats how I have it set up at the moment.
[10:24] <Meshyf> @ snoops***
[10:24] <Lobster> a nice gtkbased editor is mousepad
[10:24] <Spleenfeeder> Is anyone using dual head without xinerama or twinview with gnome?
[10:24] <Meshyf> 20 GB for Ubuntu, 500 Swap and the rest is NTFS for windows.
[10:24] <tct> SVisor any idea what to do next here?
[10:25] <SVisor> tct: The other card is turned of then. Well try: "dmesg | fgrep -i eth". Should show if your system is seing any eth card. No idea, not realy.
[10:25] <snoops> Meshyf oh right.. you're not resizing ntfs to make that, I hope
[10:25] <tct> ok
[10:25] <tct> thanks for your help
[10:25] <Meshyf> Yea I am oO
[10:26] <snoops> Meshyf k.. should be fine.. I've always found resizing partitions to be an incredibly risky business, no matter the os
[10:26] <SVisor> tct: Thanks for nothing more likely. :-( Well your best shot would be to see if Ubuntu sees any NICs. And start from there.
[10:26] <Meshyf> Aight. I thought that was bad lol.
[10:26] <snoops> better hope that ntfs partition is defragmented to hell
[10:26] <Spleenfeeder> I resized an ntfs to install a copy of dapper once, it went surprisingly well :)
[10:27] <tct> I only see one nic
[10:27] <snoops> Spleenfeeder cool beans.. my trust is increasing! +1
[10:27] <SVisor> tct: Does it get eth0 or eth1 as its name.
[10:27] <tct> I will try enabling the onboard one in the bios and see if that helps
[10:27] <tct> I only see eth0
[10:28] <Spleenfeeder> I'm not saying it wasn't a fluke or anything, There was "space inbetween". I installed ubuntu right at the end of the drive, so to speak
[10:28] <tct> in the network thing there is ppp0 but thats a winmodem so thats a whole other story
[10:28] <SVisor> tct: What does "cat /etc/network/interfaces" tell you
[10:28] <XaviusShadow> I'm having problems still, the disk I made to boot into an installer doesn't work, anyone know where I can find a floppy disk installer and instructions?
[10:28] <caturOK> where i can find authentication channel at irc
[10:29] <Muiske> Hello - I have my desktop (the one I'm working on now) and a laptop hooked up on the network (one modem/router), how can I connect from the desktop to the laptop? Anyone?
 you need a switch
[10:29] <Spleenfeeder> Muiske: How are you trying to hook them together? ethernet?
[10:30] <tct> connect the switch to the router with a cross cable
[10:30] <Muiske> Spleenfeeder: yes, ethernet
[10:30] <tct> and connect all other pc's with straight through cables to the switch
[10:30] <Muiske> tct: ok, what kind of switch do I need?
[10:30] <Lynoure> or hub, if you have one instead or get one free (not worth buying)
[10:30] <r0bby> any kind.
[10:30] <tct> any one with at least 3 ports for 2 pc's
[10:31] <chetan> snoops - i tried using nano and i got the file opened in the terminal how do i save it?
[10:31] <dibblego> in Nautilus, I have moved a file "to the Garbage Bin" - how do I get it back?
[10:31] <tct> the switch will need one port for the router and one additional port for each pc
[10:31] <Muiske> Ok, I thought that a network should be created if I connected two computers to the same modem or router.
[10:31] <Muiske> Ah, I see.
[10:31] <tct> rember to connect the router and switch via a cross cable not a straight through
[10:31] <Meshyf> It wont complete the shrink for somereason...
[10:31] <CrashProne> I heard that getting the Ubuntu version of wine just doesn't run as well as getting it off the official site.. is that still true in Dapper?
[10:32] <narx|ask> hi there
[10:32] <XaviusShadow> Is anyone else having problems connecting to the ubuntu site?
[10:32] <stefg> me... wiki is down
[10:32] <tct> you can connect 2 computers with a cross cable but i dont think that is what you want ... cause you will still end up buying another nic for the desktop pc
[10:32] <protocol1> is there a reason why I have to re-login to msn messenger on gaim once in awhile?
[10:32] <Warbo> CrashProne: The WINEHQ one will always be newer, so maybe have the best features quicker, but I find that there are a few conflicts with Dapper packages (a few libs)
[10:33] <Meshyf> having problems shrinking NTFS here.
[10:33] <XaviusShadow> well, anyone have any idea how I can install ubuntu from a floppy, I have the cd it just won't boot