[00:00] <lorecaster> (different problem)
[00:03] <lorecaster> genii CPU = AMD Mobile Sempron 3000+ / 1.8 GHz
[00:03] <lorecaster> genii: download ubuntu desktop 32-bit, yeah?
[00:04] <genii> lorecaster: Yup
[00:06] <drbobb> hmm nobody has a clue about how to get the update notifier back?
[00:07] <lorecaster> so i686 = 32-bit?
[00:09] <geek_> lorecaster: ya. technically i686, is x86 Pentium  pro equicvilent  and better
[00:13] <nicklas_> hello, when installing programs, how can i get a list in kubuntu like in ubuntus package manager? like a list for all games or all chat internet programs etcetera?
[00:14] <geek_> nicklas_: kpackagekit
[00:14] <geek_> or install adept
[00:15] <mermshaus> Adept's no longer part of the default install?
[00:16] <mermshaus> I mean, these filter stuff in kpackagekit is really confusing. :)
[00:16] <mermshaus> *this
[00:16] <nicklas_> geek_: in kpackagekit i dont get a list, i have to search
[00:17] <geek_> nicklas_: then install adept
[00:17] <geek_> mermshaus: no.
[00:17]  * geek_ swears canonical makes some wierd choices ;p
[00:18] <mermshaus> amen to that. :)
[00:18] <geek_> like the control alternate backspace disablement by default...
[00:18] <geek_> what's with that? i turned mine back on manually but still..
[00:18] <nicklas_> nvm, i just figured out how it works :-)
[00:19] <nadie__> hi
[00:19] <mermshaus> yeah, i never cared to figure that out. in case my system halts, i do a cold start. :-\
[00:19] <geek_> lol
[00:21] <david_k-cfd> anyone experienced on creating avi/divx/xvid from mkv?
[00:30] <feng> hi,every1,good morning ,afternoon,evening
[00:31] <rufong> hi feng
[00:31] <feng> hi rufong
[00:32] <wallshot> has kpackagekit's issue with process crapping out after taking too long with a "you should fork" error resolved yet?
[00:32] <wallshot> every time i do an upgrade on more than a couple packages, that shit happens
[00:32] <wallshot> i just use apt-get now
[00:33] <wallshot> doh. apparently i just drop swears into my sentences subconsciously
[00:33] <wallshot> !language | wallshot
[00:34] <wallshot> awww ubottu called me out for telling him to tell me something in public instead of in privmsg.   i'm a bucket of fail today
[00:34]  * rufong chuckles @ wallshot
[00:38] <specialist> hey
[00:38] <specialist> im kinda new to this I need a hand
[00:39] <genii> specialist: Best to describe in some detail your issue first, then see if someone is available to assist
[00:39] <angelica> hi
[00:39] <angelica> does anyone knows how to install Skype on Kubuntu 9.04?
[00:39] <JoseMPC> hello all
[00:39] <specialist> okay, HP Broadcom WiFi adapter
[00:40] <specialist> installed ubuntu but it didn't recognize the card but everything else it did.
[00:40] <specialist> did I make a mistake.
[00:40] <angelica> pleaaase help?
[00:41] <specialist> It seems like some of these forums are useless no offense.
[00:43] <specialist> no one
[00:43] <wallshot> specialist: i doubt you made a mistake.  i think my intel wifi was detected automatically after a normal install
[00:44] <rufong> specialist:http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 they have great info/trackrecord on broadcom
[00:44] <specialist> yeah, I look in the hardware drivers and it says it active, but the switch is staying lit amber. Usually when it is switched on it is blue
[00:44] <specialist> think it may be a firmware issue.
[00:45] <wallshot> perhaps it's not enabled until you try to connect with it?
[00:46] <wallshot> like ifconfig up vs down or something
[00:46] <specialist> let me see
[00:46]  * wallshot has only one color light for his wifi connector :(
[00:46] <mermshaus> angelica: this repository works fine for me: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[00:46] <mermshaus> simply add it as a third party source in the package manger
[00:46] <specialist> amber usually means off
[00:46] <mermshaus> *manager
[00:47] <specialist> sort a like a link light.
[00:47] <wallshot> specialist: presumably you should probably see the eth device if you cat /proc/net/wireless
[00:47] <wallshot> if it's actually ready to use
[00:47] <specialist> let me see I am kind of new to this, but not new to the industry.
[00:48] <wallshot> specialist: also, when you click the network icon by the clock on the kpanel, and it shows you your network devices, there's an "enable" checkbox for the wireless
[00:49] <Robertc1985> hello i am on the ps3 running intrepid. is there anyway i can get kde 3 i don't like kde 4
[00:49] <wallshot> (Wireless ... WLAN Interface ... Disconnected ... Enabled)
[00:50] <edea_> Hi
[00:50] <specialist> I don't see that, but I do see the icon and when I hover over or right click it, there is wired wireless
[00:50] <jbeard> Hi, I'm having some audio issue on Kubuntu with Flash. I have have Logitech USB speakers which register as a separate sound device, but I'm not sure how to redirect audio to them on an application-specific basis (as opposed to the built-in pc speakers). Could anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks
[00:51] <specialist> mobile broadband vpn dsl
[00:51] <edea_> is it possible to upgrade from intrepid to jaunty using the "desktop" version CD?
[00:51] <wallshot> specialist: odd ... when i left-click it, it opens up a little panel with "Ethernet" section, "Wireless" section and "VPN" section
[00:51] <Robertc1985> damn, i don't know how in kde edea
[00:51] <wallshot> hrmz but if your wireless isn't properly detected and ready maybe you wouldn't have a wireless section :(
[00:52] <specialist> yeah that is what i am thinking, so this may have been a mistake for this machine.
[00:52] <specialist> but there is always possibilities.
[00:53] <edea_> Robertc1985: I read on the official page you can upgrade using the "alternate" CD, I was just wondering why not with the "desktop" cd... I have already it burned...
[00:53] <specialist> Just HOPE n someone called help
[00:54] <drbobb> specialist: if you have a broadcom wireless, I think wifi won't work out of the box, not until you install a firmware package
[00:54] <specialist> okay. how do I obtain that.
[00:55] <drbobb> beats my why this can't be automated somewhat, but that is my experience
[00:55] <specialist> and I was reading there may be some mods with the actual kernel
[00:55] <specialist> headers
[00:55] <mermshaus> edea_: this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[00:55] <wallshot> specialist: check out that support url  rufong provided :)
[00:55] <drbobb> !b43
[00:56] <specialist> I was there an horu ago
[00:56] <specialist> hour
[00:56] <drbobb> !b43-fwcutter
[00:56] <specialist> it stated that the version I have wasn't supported, but other resources says it is.
[00:56] <drbobb> b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[00:56] <drbobb> that's what worked for me
[00:56] <specialist> ah yes,
[00:57] <specialist> thanks drbob
[00:57] <drbobb> just installing it did the trick
[00:57] <specialist> I really seen that and tried to install that.
[00:57] <edea_> mermshaus: "Upgrade to 9.04 with an alternate CD start with: ", I guess "alternate " is different from the "desktop" cd, isn't it?
[00:57] <wallshot> specialist: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[00:57] <wallshot> shows how to install firmware
[00:57] <drbobb> but ymmv, my broadcom is explicitly supported
[00:58] <wallshot> which is about the same instructions drbobb just gave you :)
[00:58] <edea_> drbobb: I have a Broadcom wifi card
[00:58] <rufong> specialist:    lspci -vnn | grep 14e4       ---when this outputs for you, what is in the last [square brackets]?
[00:58] <drbobb> (btw ubottu's database of packages seems out of date)
[00:58] <specialist> The one that is not supported
[00:58] <mermshaus> edea_:  did you try the first section on that page -- "Upgrade to 9.04 over the Internet" ? I don't think you need an install cd at all for that.
[00:58] <edea_> drbobb: and it was automatically detected by  ubuntu,
[00:58] <specialist> According to that site
[00:59] <specialist> what type of MOBO is it on.
[00:59] <edea_> mermshaus: I don't have internet access on this particular computer
[00:59] <mermshaus> ah, okay. sorry.
[00:59] <drbobb> edea_: ok that may be the case, the jaunty install I did was kind of convolluted, I didn't use the standard desktop cd
[01:00] <drbobb> (don't ask)
[01:01] <rufong> specialist: do you already have b43 installed, because thats what they suggest for all the "unsupported" chips in the list
[01:01] <specialist> b43-fwcutter is already the newest version.
[01:01] <specialist> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[01:01] <specialist> I guess I did something earlier to install it.
[01:01] <mermshaus> edea_: I *guess* the only thing thats special about the alternate CDs is that they can't be run as a live CD (so you only get the command line stuff). But that shouldn't be a problem. If I understand the help page correctly, it is worth a try.
[01:02] <drbobb> specialist: and what does `iwconfig' tell you in a terminal?
[01:02] <specialist> hold on I'll let you know
[01:02] <specialist> lo        no wireless extensions.
[01:02] <specialist> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:02] <specialist> pan0      no wireless extensions.
[01:02] <drbobb> that's it?
[01:03] <specialist> thats it.
[01:03] <rufong> specialist: if you have hardy or intrepid on your hdd, can u copy the firmware from when it did work and move that to your current install? thats what i use to update after new installs away from home
[01:03] <drbobb> then bad news, you card isn't working at all
[01:03] <JoeMPC> Hao!
[01:04] <specialist> yeah, is that what it is drbobb
[01:04] <drbobb> how about `lsmod |grep b43' ?
[01:04] <specialist> I may have to go ask billw now
[01:05] <specialist> it is not even quering nothing back
[01:05] <drbobb> nada?
[01:05] <specialist> nada
[01:05] <jbeard> Quick question: Is this still valid: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Pulseaudio%20inadvertently%20enabled%20in%20Kubuntu%20when%20installing%20from%20DVD%20or%20upgrading%20with%20apt-get
[01:06] <drbobb> ok then you might try `sudo modprobe b43'
[01:06] <edea_> mermshaus: I was thinking on having just one cd, for everything: clean installations, live cd and upgrades, but I guess I am going to have to download the alternate, just for upgrading...
[01:06] <specialist> This is a pretty complicated issue.
[01:06] <specialist> Not only for me.
[01:06] <specialist> it seems
[01:06] <drbobb> (my guess is it won't work, but it won't hurt either)
[01:07] <drbobb> edea_: why do you need to d/l a cd to upgrade?
[01:08] <specialist> drbobb if I ever run into you again, I will let you know how I got to work.
[01:08] <specialist> I don't give up there is always HOPE
[01:08] <specialist> take care thanks
[01:08] <specialist> everyone
[01:08] <drbobb> specialist: that's fine, but mine works, it's yours that doesn't
[01:08] <specialist> airpcap
[01:08] <specialist> cya later
[01:09] <edea_> drbobb: I don't have internet access on the computer I want to upgrade
[01:09] <specialist> what machine are you on drbobb
[01:09] <drbobb> specialist: acer aspire 5002
[01:09] <drbobb> edea_: ah ok, i see
[01:10] <specialist> hp pavillion dv9000 here, maybe thats why
[01:10] <specialist> who knows
[01:10] <wallshot> anyone using jaunty on laptop with different display res for builtin laptop flat panel than external vga?  If so, does it always boot up into lower laptop flatpanel res even when displaying to external vga that can do higher rez?
[01:10] <wallshot> i would imagine this must be driving someone else batty too
[01:11] <drbobb> specialist: otoh my crap vga is working pretty badly, support for it is badly degraded in the new Xorg - if that makes you feel better ;-)
[01:11]  * wallshot censored himself properly this time, after typing 'bat' realized that the compound word he was planning would violate !language
[01:13] <drbobb> in fact I needed some funky workarounds to get X to run at all, while there was no trouble at all there in previous releases
[01:14] <mermshaus> edea_: I think you can do all this with the alternate CDs. In my understanding, it's basically the same just without the live CD gui stuff. But how often do you need that?
[01:14] <drbobb> clearly I need a new machine, at this rate Xorg won't work at all on this junk come next release
[01:14] <mermshaus> edea_: *CDs -> CD
[01:15] <wallshot> that's funny, on intel 915gm, i tried intrepid 8.10, and it had some driver bug where external vga couldn't maintain sync for more than 15-20 seconds at a time, had far better experience on jaunty
[01:16] <wallshot> cept for screen rez -always- coming up 1024x even though external vga configured for 1280 and always jumps to 1280 immediately if i open "Display" in system settings
[01:16] <edea_> mermshaus: not often I guess, but I DO need the gui, I am totally noob...
[01:17] <wallshot> i noticed that in the instructions for upgrading intrepid to jaunty via network and cd, the page had "alternate" in bold when describing the cd to use for upgrade.   the power of bold text prevents me from making any expectations of other cd's working
[01:18] <wallshot> but i would imagine, that if the desktop cd is not capable of it, you wouldn't have the autorun ask if you want to upgrade, and you wouldn't have a /cdrom/cdromupgrade script to run
[01:19] <wallshot> if i saw a cdromupgrade script on the desktop cd i might try it, but would still smack myself if it broke something, for not following teh instructions more closely
[01:20] <g_> where is that new message applet that was supposed to be the new thing ubuntu was adding to the jaunty release?
[01:20] <g_> did they take it off?
[01:23] <mermshaus> edea_: I once did a network install using an alternate cd because the computer I wanted to install Kubuntu to didn't have a working disc drive. The network stuff took me some time to set up, but once I was able to start the installation, it worked quite well. It's not that you have to use crazy shell commands to use the alternate cd. the whole process is pretty straight forward. you just need to select options and press enter with the keyboard in
[01:23] <mermshaus>  clicking with the mouse.
[01:23] <LuciousAsh> I want to do a clean install of ubuntu, because my system won't boot, but I need to get some files off of the computer. I tried to copy it using a boot cd onto a thumbdrive but it says I don't have permission. Any way to work around this?
[01:24] <edea_> mermshaus: then I'll give it a try
[01:24] <mermshaus> edea_: I don't know how important the stability of your system is, but I'd say: *Do a backup of any important data* and -- yes -- give it a try. :)
[01:24] <Dragnslcr> LuciousAsh- you might need to use sudo (or kdesudo if you're using Dolphin)
[01:24] <wallshot> LuciousAsh: you use sudo to try to copy it?   if they're owned by your broken system's UID, the desktop cd system may not have you using same uid
[01:25] <edea_> mermshaus: I'll do, thanks! bye!
[01:25] <wallshot> s/system's UID/system's user's UID/
[01:25] <mermshaus> good luck, bye
[01:25] <KiRiLoS> LuciousAsh, press alt+F2 and write kdesudo dolphin , then when dolphin pop's up navigate to your files and copy them
[01:26]  * wallshot is fond of kdesudo, it's pretty cool hotness
[01:26] <LuciousAsh> I'm sorry, I'm not actually using KDE, I'm on a gnome ubuntu install, but the other forum is so packed my messages just got flooded away
[01:26] <Dragnslcr> LuciousAsh- what are you using to copy the files?
[01:27] <LuciousAsh> just the file browser
[01:27] <wallshot> how do i set which sound channel to record from? (line in, mic, etc)
[01:28] <seattlegaucho> wallshot: try KMix
[01:28] <KiRiLoS> LuciousAsh, alt+f2 gksu nautilus , navigate to the folder and copy
[01:28] <Dragnslcr> LuciousAsh- open it with gksudo (I think that's what it's called)
[01:29] <wallshot> I see nothing in kmix which suggests any recording control
[01:29] <LuciousAsh> okay
[01:29] <LuciousAsh> and that should override permissions?
[01:29] <wallshot> was first place i went, but it looks like all playback volumes, not recording devices/volumes
[01:29] <KiRiLoS> LuciousAsh, yes,for sure
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> LuciousAsh- it'll run it as root, which always has permission to all files
[01:29] <seattlegaucho> wallshot: there should be 3 tabs in KMix ... output/ input/switches
[01:30] <seattlegaucho> there you define which input is available ... your recording software should be able to pick one (or more) of them
[01:30] <LuciousAsh> cool
[01:30] <LuciousAsh> thank you
[01:30] <wallshot> i have one tab: Intel ICH6
[01:30] <arko> hi all
[01:31] <LuciousAsh> and also, the reason I'm doing a clean install in the first place is on a restart it tried doing an automatic fsck, but it failed, so it asked me to do a manual, so I ran sudo fsck /, and it seems to be scanning, but occassionally it tell sm ethere is an error and asks me if I want to ignore it
[01:31] <seattlegaucho> wallshot: which release?
[01:31] <LuciousAsh> what would I do in this situation?
[01:31] <wallshot> jaunty
[01:31] <arko> how can I change the system to use only Alsa?
[01:31] <wallshot> luciousash: in that situation, i pray my hard disk isn't dying
[01:32] <LuciousAsh> all right
[01:32] <wallshot> depending on what the errors are
[01:32] <LuciousAsh> is that what that implies?
[01:32] <wallshot> it's possible just some data got hosed and needs to be cleaned up, really depends on the error
[01:32] <LuciousAsh> well, I will backup, and then restart and fsck again, then relay the error to you guys, and you might be able to help from there?
[01:32] <seattlegaucho> wallshot: try in "Settings -> Configure Channels" ... you should get all the devices available
[01:32] <wallshot> any i/o, medium, or read errors would indicate impending hardware failure
[01:33] <wallshot> seattlegauch: thanks!!
[01:33] <seattlegaucho> np
[01:33] <wallshot> hrm but it doesn't indicate any recording capabilities for any of them
[01:33] <wallshot> i can add volume for many channels tho
[01:33] <wallshot> like i can add line in and mic
[01:34] <seattlegaucho> no, that only controls which channels you have available and which ones are enabled/disabled
[01:34] <seattlegaucho> you need a different package to actually record
[01:34] <wallshot> oooh
[01:34] <seattlegaucho> that package will have the settings to choose the source of recording
[01:34] <wallshot> i didn't expect recording controls to be packaged separately
[01:35]  * wallshot adds line and mic channels to mixer collection anyway since they could be handy
[01:35] <wallshot> o o i c
[01:35] <wallshot> "capture" checkbox available
[01:35] <wallshot> for those channels
[01:35] <wallshot> annoyingly, not available for pcm. phooey.
[01:36] <wallshot> but i can enable/disable capture for line in and mic inputs at least it seems, now that their volume bars are on my mixer
[01:37] <seattlegaucho> wallshot: I usually used the setup to use with Skype and such, never captured directly :)
[01:37] <LuciousAsh> i ran nautilus with sudo, but I still don't have permissions
[01:38] <wallshot> well thanks for getting me to pull up the volume bars for mic and line in so i can at least tweak their volumes and choose which of the 2 to capture from
[01:38] <wallshot> had no idea where u choose the capture device til i added them
[01:38] <KiRiLoS> LuciousAsh, wow!What are you tryin to copy?With sudo you can copy the whole system without a problem
[01:39] <LuciousAsh> I manually changed the permissions to allow others access and it worked
[01:42] <wallshot> that's pretty weird.  i'ma make a note to avoid that file manager
[01:42] <wallshot> "u cannot read files for copy but u can change permissions" wait wut?
[01:43] <LuciousAsh> I am an extreme amateur at Linux, so I may just be missing something
[01:43] <GS3User007> how can i see what my computer is named?
[01:43] <wallshot> GS3User007: hostname will do it on almost all unix systems
[01:44] <mermshaus> Open a terminal. There'll be something like marc@suzu:~$
[01:50] <arko> how can I change the system to use only alsa?
[01:56] <aleite> Hello
[01:56] <GS3User007> hi
[01:56] <aleite> Does anyone know how to install amarok 14 and amarok 2 together on Jaunty?
[01:58] <RickKnight> Need help with USB memory stick on 8.04. Memory is not detected. Does not show up in lsusb or cat /proc/scsi/scsi.
[02:00] <humberto__> I need some help
[02:01] <GS3User007> humberto__: you need to be more specific than that
[02:01] <humberto__> sorry...
[02:02] <geek_> RickKnight: how about on /dev/ ?
[02:02] <humberto__> i've upgraded my ubuntu to 9.04, and can't use extra visual effects anymore...
[02:05] <LuciousAsh> Error reading block 8847497 (attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scane.   Ignore error<y>?
[02:07] <LuciousAsh> anyone know what this might indicate?
[02:12] <LuciousAsh> anyone know what this error means?
[02:16] <LuciousAsh> is anyone here that can help me with this fsck error?
[02:19] <LuciousAsh> can anybody help me with this fsck error code?             Error reading block 8847497 (attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scane.   Ignore error<y>?
[02:19] <lorecaster> installing ubuntu 9.04 on my acer aspire 3004WLMi... having a problem with broadcom wireless drivers... can someone help or direct me to the right place?
[02:20] <rufong> someone might direct you to forums, but i like linuxwireless     http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[02:23] <agoole> I apparently need a package gtk+-, running a search for gtk I get a TON of result, where do I start ?
[02:23] <agoole> !gtk
[02:23] <agoole> hum...
[02:26] <LuciousAsh> can anybody help me with this fsck error code?             Error reading block 8847497 (attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scane.   Ignore error<y>?
[02:26] <Wizzleby> agoole: what are you trying to install/ what is the name of the required package?
[02:27] <agoole> Wizzleby: trying to install hamachi-gui, which isn't in the repo, and when building it says I need gtk
[02:27] <agoole> Wizzleby: I dont know quite what to install
[02:27] <Wizzleby> hm.
[02:28] <Wizzleby> agoole: so you are compiling it from source?
[02:28] <agoole> Wizzleby: yes
[02:29] <Wizzleby> agoole: let me check up on that real quick. I think you need some sort of gtk -dev package.
[02:30] <agoole> Wizzleby: ok
[02:30] <agoole> Wizzleby: thanks
[02:31] <Wizzleby> agoole: Possibly, libgtk2.0-dev
[02:31] <agoole> Wizzleby: ok trying now
[02:33] <Wizzleby> incidentally, if anyone remembers the trouble I was having with nvidia driver autodetecting a resolution, its fixed. It was auto-detecting the native resolution for a monitor with a broken panel, and its geometry messed up. Once I got a new monitor, things work perfect as to resolution/dpi
[02:33] <Wizzleby> Teaches me to keep a monitor for 11 years and expect it to work right ;)
[02:34] <geek_> lol
[02:39] <agoole> whats a good vnc viewer for ubuntu ?
 incidentally, if anyone remembers the trouble I was having with nvidia driver autodetecting a resolution, its fixed. It was auto-detecting the native resolution for a monitor with a broken panel, and its geometry messed up. Once I got a new monitor, things work perfect as to resolution/dpi
[02:42] <LuciousAsh> ...
[02:42] <LuciousAsh> I don't know why that copied
[02:42] <Wizzleby> lol
[02:42] <LuciousAsh> can anybody help me with this fsck error code?             Error reading block 8847497 (attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scane.   Ignore error<y>?
[02:44] <LuciousAsh> does no one have an ideas on my problem or are people just ignoring me?
[02:45] <Wizzleby> LuciousAsh: I'm not knowledgable enough to really answer that, although I am curious enough to try googling it
[02:47] <david_k-cfd> anyone knows a bit about ffmpeg?
[02:47] <david_k-cfd> I need a quick advice
[02:49] <Wizzleby> LuciousAsh: have you seen this forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1011140.html it seems a user had a similar problem, and was able to get around it by saying 'yes' to ignore the error, then 'yes' again to 'Force re-write?'
[02:50] <LuciousAsh> well, I'm getting numerous errors in a row
[02:50] <LuciousAsh> I do that, but then I just get another one within a minute or two
[02:51]  * Wizzleby nods
[02:52] <LuciousAsh> so just keep doing that?
[02:52] <Wizzleby> LuciousAsh: that sounds a little like the thread I linked to. They got it eventually past the fsck and booted.
[02:52] <LuciousAsh> any idea what force rewrite would be doing?
[02:53] <Wizzleby> I can only guess that it would be forcxing a 'fix' of the block in question. Some stuff might end up in the Lost+Found folder
[02:54] <Wizzleby> if fsck started throwing erros at me like that, I'd probably try to get all data off the drive, then reformat it entirely and scan it thoroughly, while ordering another drive in the meantime
[02:54] <Wizzleby> that is by no means advice, just what I would do if fsck started giving me errors I could not understand and not verify
[02:55] <yoasif> quick question -- what package do i need to install in jaunty if i want kde system settings?
[02:55] <LuciousAsh> I previously had linux mint installed on this computer, and I had similar problems, so I'm guessing this might be a faulty hard drive
[02:55] <LuciousAsh> reformatting theoretically would get rid of any errors?
[02:56] <Wizzleby> Well. It would get rid of any errors caused by an old format of a filesystem. Not any hardware issues, hence why I'd err on the side of cautiousness and order another drive.
[02:57] <Wizzleby> yoasif: I think it is just 'systemsettings'
[02:58] <yoasif> Wizzleby: wow i think you are right :)
[02:58] <yoasif> Wizzleby: not a kde user, just trying to enable qgtkstyle
[02:59] <aleite> Hello Does anybody know what is the repositories used on kubuntu jaunty remix ?
[03:00] <genii> aleite: The kde3 Jaunty?
[03:00] <aleite> Yep
[03:00] <aleite> I already installed ubuntu jaunty.. I wanted to install kde3
[03:01] <Wizzleby> Are the remix repos up yet for the Jaunty release? I only ever saw the announcement for the KDE3 remix RC
[03:01] <Wizzleby> I have a friend who is not interested in KDE4 (not me, I love it :)), but who I think would benefit from other newness of Jaunty like capability to use ext4
[03:02] <aleite> Well, there are images to download.. I thought there might be a repository
[03:02] <Wizzleby> aleite: it may be, they are not up yet? I would think there would be an announcement on the Kubuntu.org, also, ability to download CDs
[03:02] <genii> aleite: If you installed Kubuntu from one of these iso http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/    should have it's repos in it hopefully.
[03:02] <aleite> I installed ubuntu...
[03:03] <aleite> The "normal" one
[03:03] <Wizzleby> ok
[03:04] <Wizzleby> aleite: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ seems to have the repos listed
[03:05] <aleite> Oh YEAH
[03:05] <aleite> Thanks Wizzleby
[03:08] <aleite> Thanks guys...
[03:08] <kdjtar> does anybody know if it is possible to use grep to filter two different arguments at once?
[03:10] <joshjtl> hi folks, I need to install a patched version of xserver-xorg-video-intel because of a bug I have, the patched package has been released to jaunty-proposed, but I dont want to add the entire repo, I just want the particular package... can anyone help me figure out which is the correct package released most recently to jaunty-proposed?
[03:10] <joshjtl> this is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/359392
[03:11] <wirechief> joshjtl: i think its the xserver-xorg for intel
[03:12] <wirechief> joshjtl: im in the same boat
[03:12] <joshjtl> wirechief: im trying to track down the last released package for this bug...
[03:13] <wirechief> joshjtl: well they were talking about the packages this am but not sure if they have them released yet
[03:13] <wirechief> joshjtl: have to check my mail
[03:13] <joshjtl> wirechief: would you?
[03:27] <seth_> hello, my cuestion is: how i do for have the scaner of epson cx5600 working in kooka
[03:28] <genii> I don't think kooka comes with kubuntu anymore
[03:29] <genii> !info kooka jaunty
[03:29] <genii> !info kooka intrepid
[03:29] <seth_> yes is correct but i used 8.04.2 and that have kooka
[03:31] <genii> seth_: We had another fellow here lately with same line of epson scanner and we could not get it working. Some people however report instructions here work for them: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471
[03:32] <genii> Your Mileage May Vary
[03:32]  * wirechief mine is all on foot
[03:33] <wirechief> genii i have a brother printer and its been a royal pita, it installs but doesnt print
[03:33] <seth_> hooo that's the info that i need, thank you
[03:33] <genii> seth_: Good luck with it :)
[03:33] <wirechief> genii but its nothing new, its always gave me a tuff time
[03:34] <wirechief> genii and everytime the cups stuff gets updated it stops working
[03:34] <genii> wirechief: The worst ones for me so far are the crappy crappy  Lexmarks
[03:34]  * genii spits in the general direction of Lexmark Headquarters
[03:35] <wirechief> genii yes, i think next time it will be a hp they seem to work well hahaha
[03:36] <wirechief> genii i got a log from the attempt and put a thread in the forum, but havent heard anything from experts yet.
[03:36] <wirechief> genii maybe i should submit a bug report ?
[03:37] <wirechief> genii not sure printers are a bug reportable issue
[03:37] <genii> wirechief: Well, if you installed something not from repos to get it working, it's not a bug
[03:38] <wirechief> genii thought so. well the drivers are not in ubuntu so i had no other choice
[03:40] <liz> can anyone tell me how to install a kde theme? I recently downloaded simplymepis 8.0 theme
[03:43] <wirechief> genii i am suspecting that perhaps the arch has something to do with my issue, next time its back to 32 bit, i had to force the arch on the driver install
[03:43] <genii> Ah, yeah that may be it
[03:43] <genii> wirechief:  Did you do te ia32-libs install, etc etc?
[03:44] <wirechief> genii i think so, they recommended those
[03:44] <wirechief> ii  ia32-libs                                  2.7ubuntu6
[03:45] <wirechief> genii the install on localhost:631 went off without, no errors
[03:47] <wirechief>  genii and the wierd thing is it thinks the doc printed, it gets an ack from the printer (shakes head and rolls eyes)
[03:48]  * wirechief oh well, time to catch a train gn8
[03:50] <genii> wirechief: Have a nice train trip :)
[03:52] <ashley__> just upgraded my intrepid wubi install to jaunty! ... no problems!
[03:53] <ashley__> is there any graphical way to do LVPM stuff in KDE like there is gnome?
[03:53] <ashley__> to transfer my wubi install to a real partition
[04:07] <Ahmuck> kubuntu install died at 66 percent
[04:07] <Ahmuck> it's been there for 2 hours now
[04:13] <midhun> hey anyone please tell me how to get into yahoo chatrooms using kopete
[04:16] <midhun> hey anybody for help
[04:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> does anybody know where I can get info to build a custom splash screen?
[04:22] <Wizzleby> gundam_rx78nt1: You mean with usplash, or with grub, or with kdm, or for when KDE strats?
[04:22] <Wizzleby> starts^
[04:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> for when kde starts.
[04:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> I believe the engin is ksplashx
[04:24] <midhun> hey gundam can you please tell me if we could enter into yahoo chat rooms using kopete
[04:25] <gundam_rx78nt1> midhun, you should be able to enter chat rooms using kopete.
[04:26] <midhun> please tell me where to find that
[04:27] <Wizzleby> gundam_rx78nt1: I don't know how to do it. there is an app (KSplasherX) on kde-apps.org for creating one
[04:27] <Wizzleby> maybe that will suit your purposes
[04:27] <midhun> thanks
[04:28] <Wizzleby> midhun: I'd offer help with your kopete issue but I don't use kopete
[04:28] <skierpage> I manually installed the Thunderbird 3 beta2 package.  It runs but cannot read or send e-mail.  It complains about a GConf error and failed to load libmozgnome.so.
[04:28] <midhun> which one do you use?
[04:29] <skierpage> Is there some package I need to load?  Also, it's 32-bit, not 64-bit, does that mean it can't work in Kubuntu 9.04 64-bit?
[04:30] <Wizzleby> skierpage: 32bit apps will work in 64bit Kubuntu, but you need ia32-libs and some other compat libs installed. I haven't tried TB3 though so I can't help there
[04:30] <Wizzleby> midhun: I use pidgin. In my experience it has been sufficiently stable and feature-full, plus I can run my same pidgin profile in either windows or linux
[04:30] <nathalie> olaaaaaaaaa
[04:30] <nathalie> español???
[04:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> !es
[04:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> espero que esto te ayude nathalie
[04:31] <skierpage> nathalie, http://www.kubuntu.org/support  por Kubuntu Español
[04:31] <Wizzleby> midhun: as for yahoo chat rooms in pidgen, I never tried creating one, but my friends do, and so I get invited to the chats, its worked just fine for me
[04:32] <midhun> ok
[04:33] <skierpage> Wizzleby, thanks!  any idea how I can figure out what's needed, maybe a 32-bit "thunderbird-gnome-support" package?  It could be the same stuff that 32-bit Firefox 3.5b4 needs...
[04:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> midhun
[04:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> on kopete right click on your name and on the list you should see join a chat room.
[04:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> on the account bar.
[04:34] <midhun> thanks very much gundam i got it
[04:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> no problem.
[04:36] <paz> #sexo
[04:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> Wizzleby, I tried using ksplasherx and it doesn't work.  any splash screen I create doesn't want to load the theme file.
[04:39] <malik_> hi, i cant login to my netgear wgr614v5 wireless router. i can find the wireless network offered by the router named AMADEUS. i m using ubunut. what to do ?
[04:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> malik_: wpa or wep?
[04:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> malik_:9.04?
[04:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> if so, remove network manager and install wicd.
[04:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> It works better.
[04:43] <malik_> yes i m using 9.04
[04:43] <malik_> i dont know how to do it.
[04:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> are you using wpa encryption?
[04:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> sudo apt-get install wicd
[04:44] <malik_> i have a new router dont know about it. let me check
[04:45] <skierpage> heh, maybe I'll try "UbuntuZilla" python installer, http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/#usersof64bitubuntu
[04:47] <Wizzleby> skierpage: I couldn't say, sorry. I don't use thunderbird from within linux as my thunderbird is kind of tied to my windows install and birdiesync to sync with my smartphone
[04:51] <ChopperDave> I have an Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03), I just updated to 9.04, and now I get zero sound.  Anyone else having this issue?
[04:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> ChopperDave, a buddy of mine for the University had the same problem with his Alienware laptop.
[04:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> I don't know if he got it working or not.
[04:53] <skierpage> I have a local .deb file, I want to see what dependent packages it wants to install.  Will `dpkg -i my.deb` tell me, or is there a "dry-run" option?
[04:56] <princedugan> the cups package is broken after upgrade to jaunty, it won't go away, i can't add or remove anything now <http://pastebin.com/d4aaf4e49>
[05:01] <ChopperDave> Bleargle, well, that tutorial didn't fix it
[05:01] <ChopperDave> Can't we all make pulseaudio go away?
[05:02] <xjjk> princedugan: interesting...
[05:02] <xjjk> princedugan: what's the contents of /etc/init.d/cups
[05:05] <ChopperDave> So, shouldn't I technically be able to use the package manager to get rid of pulse audio?
 I guess I should mention cups appears to be working perfectly, old printer works, added a printer, printing. its reported broken by package managers
[05:09] <skierpage> ChopperDave, in System Settings > Multimedia >Device Preference, does anything work?
[05:09] <skierpage> ChopperDave, in my experience, Phonon is preferring to talk directly to my audio hardware over using PulseAudio, but both work.
[05:10] <ChopperDave> it says pulse doesn't work, when I test the hardware option direct, nothing happens
[05:11] <skierpage> ChopperDave, I take it back, when I clicked I got a notification that PulseAudio didn't work and "falling back to <main hardware>"
[05:11] <ChopperDave> skierpage: I saw that, but main hardware doesn't do anything
[05:12] <skierpage> ChopperDave, what does the System Settings > Multimedia > "Backend" tab say?  (Mine just lists "Xine").
[05:12] <ChopperDave> same
[05:13] <skierpage> ChopperDave, I'm no expert but you could look at the lower level of ALSA and see what's going on.
[05:13] <ChopperDave> alsa seems to be configured fine as far as I can tell
[05:13] <ChopperDave> alsamixer is nice
[05:13] <ChopperDave> all unmuted
[05:13] <ChopperDave> Is there really no way to REMOVE pulseaudio?
[05:14] <ChopperDave> Trying to take out libpulse0 wants me to remove just about all of kde
[05:14] <DarthFrog> Yeah, there is.  I came across it the other day when Googling.
[05:14] <skierpage> ChopperDave,  http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/TroubleShooting
[05:14] <DarthFrog> Can't remember how, though. :-)
[05:15] <princedugan> ChopperDave: I found the easiest way is to just set everything to use ALSA.
[05:15] <ChopperDave> princedugan: I gave that a go, hasn't worked, so either it's still borken, or I missed some things
[05:16] <digdeep> how can I check whether cron is running correctly?
[05:17] <skierpage> ChopperDave , as I understand it, if you can't get sound at the ALSA level, you won't get sound at higher levels.  Does `aplay -dd /usr/share/sounds/k3b_success1.wav` work?
[05:18] <ChopperDave> skierpage: nope
[05:18] <TweakedEh> My audio works when I log on but not for Youtube or VLC. What should I do?
[05:19] <skierpage> ChopperDave, OK, so *if* my understanding is correct, try to get ALSA audio working.  Again, http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/TroubleShooting
[05:19]  * skierpage pretends to be audio expert after 3 days with Kubuntu :-)
[05:19] <genii> ChopperDave: If you have lines like:  pcm.pulse { type pulse } ctl.pulse { type pulse } pcm.!default { type pulse } ctl.!default { type pulse }    in the file /etc/asound.conf you can remove/change them not to use pulse
[05:20] <ChopperDave> genii: I don ot have that file
[05:20] <ChopperDave> do not*
[05:20] <skierpage> TweakedEh, how are you watching YouTube, did you install flashplugin-* ?
[05:21] <TweakedEh> skierpage, yes
[05:21] <digdeep> I set this up with cron ---> "17 14 * * * /usr/bin/updatedb" It doesn't seem to be running
[05:21] <skierpage> TweakedEh, if so then my understanding is login sounds play through KDE's Phonon layer (System Settings > Multimedia I was just talking about), but flashplayer talks at Alsa level.
[05:22] <TweakedEh> skierpage, what about vlc?
[05:22] <ChopperDave> skierpage: genii: I did aplay -vv with that file, and it showed the audio bar jumping around, just no sound
[05:23] <skierpage> TweakedEh Sorry I've no idea about VLC.  For ALSA I followed http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/TroubleShooting , found I had two devices and ALSA was choosing the wrong one, and used `asoundconf` to fix.  Read my tale at http://userbase.kde.org/User:Skierpage#Flash_install
[05:24] <TweakedEh> skierpage, I just installed a dvd css package, would this have any thing to do with it?
[05:25] <skierpage> TweakedEh, no idea.  Again, different programs use different sound systems, you may have to configure each.
[05:25] <Fieldy> !ext4
[05:25] <TweakedEh> skierpage, well it was working this mornning.
[05:46] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering if anyone knew if Jaunty is better on battery consumption than 8.04?
[05:47] <princedugan> bdizzle: KDE is not, on any distro
[05:47] <jussi01> bdizzle: Ive seen very little difference in practice. However, ymmv
[05:48] <bdizzle> okay
[05:48] <bdizzle> so still no improvement on battery life?
[06:02]  * genii sips
[06:10] <skierpage> I'm trying to get Thunderbird 3 beta 2 working on 64-bit Kubuntu 9.04.  It runs but can't get or send e-mail.  Futzing with ldd suggests I'm missing 32-bit versions of libgnomevfs-2 and libgnome-2.  What's the minimal-est way to install those?
[06:17] <DarthFrog> Has anyone managed to get wireless networking working with knetworkmanager in Jaunty?
[06:19] <genii> skierpage: Maybe see http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Running_32-bit_Applications_on_64-bit_Debian_GNU/Linux for clues
[06:26] <kutchbhi> Will the methods described here work in kubuntu jaunty as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence ?
[06:35] <pteague> i just lost the menu bar on gwenview ... any ideas as to how to get it back?
[06:38] <kutchbhi> Will the methods described here work in kubuntu jaunty https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[06:39] <GS3User007> pteague: ctrl m
[06:39] <pteague> tyvm :)
[06:50] <BIZZAROh8red> hola
[06:50]  * genii sips his coffee
[06:51] <BIZZAROh8red> what makes you guys like kubuntu over ubuntu
[06:51] <claydoh> kde, of course :)
[06:52] <BIZZAROh8red> i must admit, this is my first run at linux.  i believe what im using is gnome
[06:52] <claydoh> its mostly a personal preference really
[06:52] <BIZZAROh8red> just curious as to what i'm missing out on, if anything
[06:52] <claydoh> gnome is cool
[06:53] <DarthFrog> Ubuntu uses GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment).  Kubuntu uses KDE (K Desktop Environment).  Personal choice as to which you prefer.
[06:53] <claydoh> BIZZAROh8red: luckily you can try em all
[06:53] <DarthFrog> GNOME is much less configurable (by design!) than KDE.
[06:53] <DarthFrog> GNOME removes choice.  KDE celebrates choice. :-)
[06:53] <BIZZAROh8red> ahh
[06:54] <BIZZAROh8red> do they use about the same resources
[06:54] <DarthFrog> Pretty much, I think.
[06:55] <BIZZAROh8red> cool
[06:55] <claydoh> I agree
[06:55] <DarthFrog> You might also want to try Xubuntu, which uses XfCE.  Much less resource usage.
[06:56] <DarthFrog> I use Xubuntu on my laptop.  It's good.
[06:56] <BIZZAROh8red> interesting.  i think my setup can handle regular ubuntu though.
[06:56] <DarthFrog> And whichever version you run, you can still run all the apps of all the other environments.   You can have your desktop and apps, too. :-)
[06:57] <alpha> hello
[06:57] <BIZZAROh8red> wow sweet
[06:57] <BIZZAROh8red> so i can choose between gui if i have both installed?
[06:57] <DarthFrog> Yes.  You can change it at the login screen.
[06:58] <BIZZAROh8red> gnome is very pretty, but the file browser is pretty lame
[07:01] <genii> BIZZAROh8red: The default file browser in Kubuntu recently changed from Konqueror to Dolphin. Both are pretty good. Some also like Krusader
[07:01] <DarthFrog> genii: Do you find any advantage in using Dolphin over Konq?
[07:01] <genii> DarthFrog: Nope
[07:02] <genii> DarthFrog: I still mostly use Konqueror from habit
[07:02] <DarthFrog> Moi aussi. :-)
[07:02] <BIZZAROh8red> i must say, i really do miss being able to right click, drag files.
[07:06] <PhrkOnLsh> hey guys, I just tried upgrading from kubuntu 8.04 to 9.04 using adeot and, well things aren't going too well.
[07:06] <PhrkOnLsh> it dies on installing kdebase-runtime-data.
[07:07] <PhrkOnLsh> http://pastebin.ca/1410137
[07:07] <alpha> try reverting back?
[07:08] <PhrkOnLsh> kinda defeats the purpose of these 2GiB of packages sitting in /var/cache/apt but okay
[07:08] <alpha> why are you trying to upgrade
[07:08] <alpha> is there a reason?
[07:08] <PhrkOnLsh> because I want kde4.2 now that it seems more stable
[07:08] <alpha> it is more stable but ive also had errors
[07:09] <alpha> doesnt seem worth it if it gives you more errors than before
[07:09] <alpha> hah
[07:10] <PhrkOnLsh> well, i figured the upgrade path kubuntu.org suggested to me, would, well, work :)
[07:10] <dijikul> I don't suppose anyone here knows how to reenable the menu in kopete after accidentally hiding it?
[07:12] <alpha> which menu
[07:12] <alpha> there are a few
[07:13] <dijikul> the like
[07:13] <dijikul> te
[07:13] <dijikul> text menu
[07:13] <dijikul> view,etc
[07:13] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: Try: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwite kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb           and then after the sudo apt-get install -f
[07:13] <dijikul> at the very top of the window
[07:13] <alpha> im trying it myself
[07:14] <alpha> it should be just a right click away
[07:14] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: Use full path in /var/cache/apt/archives   is thats where the deb is
[07:14] <genii> *if thats where the deb is...
[07:14] <alpha> try CTRL+M
[07:14] <claydoh> dijikul: try ctrl-m
[07:14] <PhrkOnLsh> okay
[07:15] <dijikul> aha
[07:15] <dijikul> ctrl m
[07:15] <dijikul> thanks|!
[07:15] <dijikul> ok
[07:15] <dijikul> another question now
[07:15] <alpha> np :D
[07:15] <dijikul> are you having trouble with connecting to gmail chat?
[07:15] <dijikul> I can't seem to make it work
[07:15] <PhrkOnLsh> dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `overwite'
[07:15] <alpha> through kopete?
[07:15] <dijikul> yeah
[07:15] <dijikul> using the jabber account type
[07:15] <alpha> hmm
[07:15] <alpha> i have never tried this personally
[07:16] <alpha> whast the problem tho?
[07:16] <PhrkOnLsh> dijikul: I couldn't get it to connect either...
[07:16] <dijikul> PhrkOnLsh, hmm ok so it's not just me.
[07:16] <dijikul> alpha it wont connect to gmail
[07:16] <dijikul> using my gmail login and stuff
[07:16] <dijikul> like
[07:16] <dijikul> for the gtalk stuff
[07:16] <alpha> have you tried
[07:16] <alpha> to look in the GMAIL faq
[07:17] <dijikul> I tried setting the jabber server to both talk.google.com and gmail.com on both ports 5222 and 5223
[07:17] <dijikul> no luck
[07:17] <alpha> hmm
[07:17] <alpha> that sounds right
[07:17] <alpha> it must be a jabber problem, not a gmail one
[07:17] <PhrkOnLsh> alpha: are you sure that command was the correct comand?
[07:17] <alpha> which command?
[07:18] <PhrkOnLsh> rrix@wanton:~$ sudo dpkg -i --force-overwite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[07:18] <alpha> sry i didnt give that command
[07:18] <PhrkOnLsh> oh sorry, my bad :)
[07:18] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: --force-overwrite           <- with an "R" between W and I
[07:18] <alpha> i believe
[07:18] <PhrkOnLsh> genii: are you sure that is the correct command?
[07:18] <alpha> genil did
[07:18] <alpha> hehe
[07:19] <PhrkOnLsh> ho, there we go :)
[07:19] <genii> My bad, typo from me on original
[07:19]  * genii hides in shame
[07:19] <genii> ;)
[07:19] <PhrkOnLsh> http://pastebin.ca/1410139 <-- genii
[07:19] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: Reading
[07:22] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: Same command but now with the problemmatic package it complains of, eg: kdebase-runtime-data-common          ...the .deb name will be in /var/cache/apt/archives and you will need exact .deb name for it
[07:22] <genii> (as like before)
[07:22] <genii> If you ls kdebase-runtime-data-common*                  that should list it for you
[07:22] <PhrkOnLsh> okay
[07:23] <genii> If you ls /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data-common*                      rather :)    (I am very tired)
[07:23] <PhrkOnLsh> okay, that got it, let's see if everythig is in order
[07:23]  * genii sips
[07:24] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: Try the original one again, etc   eg: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:26] <PhrkOnLsh> genii: yeah, looks dang good :)
[07:26] <PhrkOnLsh> now i'll just do the upgrade and finishing up the upgrade
[07:26] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: Glad to assist
[07:29] <PhrkOnLsh> tkz, genii
[07:31] <Keiwie> hey all
[07:32] <alpha> hey :D
[07:32] <genii> PhrkOnLsh: You're welcome.
[07:37] <dROg> anybody on ?
[07:38] <dROg> i've found a sort of a problem yesterday when installing jaunty :)
[07:38] <dROg> it seems that net-tools has some sort of bugs
[07:42] <genii> dROg: If you believe it's a bug, please post it as such on Launchpad please
[07:51] <skierpage> genii, thanks for the 32-bit on 64-bit pointer.  Alas that talks about using apt-file, which I don't have.  Is there an option for aptitude like "--architecture i386"
[07:51]  * skierpage can't believe that the greatest feature of Linux -- easy and free package installation and maintenance -- is such a mess.
[07:52] <genii> skierpage: Possibly, but I use mostly apt-get or dpkg and not familiar with the aptitude options. Maybe look at it's manpage
[07:53] <MushroomKingdom> Can someone help me figure out WINE or steer me toward somewhere that can?
[07:53] <geek_> MushroomKingdom: what specifically do you need help with?
[07:54] <MushroomKingdom> geek_: My games never seem to work.
[07:54] <geek_> MushroomKingdom: checked the compatability list?
[07:54] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah, they're on there
[07:54] <MushroomKingdom> Starcraft wont play, it crashes. Myst 3 : exile wont play, it crashes.
[07:55] <geek_> hmm
[07:55] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah :(
[07:55]  * geek_ hasn't tried games on it before >_>
[07:55] <MushroomKingdom> D:
[07:56] <MushroomKingdom> I'm having bad luck with wine. Even old DOS games crash or don't play at all
[08:03] <bereznev> Всем Привет!
[08:04] <genii> !ru | bere
[08:04] <genii> Blah
[08:21] <kannan> during startup i get X server startup timeout and the session several time returns to TTY2..i am using intel 945GM chipset.. can anybody please help to resolve this problem ?
[09:23] <dwidmann> I've got a curiosity question, presuming somebody is around to answer it. Is there a way to mount gzipped filesystems? (I really doubt this, but It would definitely be handy if it could be done)
[09:27] <kozz> dwidmann: there are filesystems that supports compression, squashfs for example
[09:30] <dwidmann> kozz: I know, but that's not what I had in mind ... I was just wondering about tapping into an existing backup ... I didn't think it could be done without gunzipping it first though.
[09:31] <dwidmann> (though it'd be cool if I could)
[10:11] <emre> slm
[10:11] <emre> m'llet
[10:12] <emre> turk yokmu
[10:16] <qazwsx> hi
[10:22] <www> ola
[10:44] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[10:45] <FuriousGeorge> i just told my alternate cd to encrypt my home dir...  what happens if i have to boot a livecd and chroot?  will i be asked for a pw to unencrypt?
[10:53] <fehrp> hey all
[10:54] <fehrp> in 9.4 my firefox process does not get killed upon closing it.
[10:54] <fehrp> in 9.4 I get funny artifacts in kile and other editors
[10:54] <fehrp> in 9.4 my wlan interface is deactivated by default and my bluetooth activated by default. In what universe does that make sense?
[10:56] <fehrp> in 9.4 knetworkmanager is still not working, as also in 8.10 not. It does not connect to wlan-ap's even if it sees them.
[10:57] <fehrp> thank you kubuntu for assuring me that updates and the word "stable" are not to be understood in the conservative way (as is)
[11:05] <kaddi> hello everyone :)
[11:08] <bazhang> hi
[11:08] <bned> hello everybody, I have some troubles upgrading to jackalope, can someone help me?
[11:09] <bazhang> bned, please specify what troubles
[11:11] <bned> well, when I start the update widget and click on it and select the option to update I get the release notes and then this error message "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server" so I waited a couple of days and tried again - the same thing
[11:11] <bned> I just tried to download the alternate CD and try this method
[11:11] <bned> but
[11:12] <bned> as it estimates my system it finds my skype package and wants to remove it, but it says it is in some kind of blacklist and the insallation shuts down
[11:12] <bned> so I don't know what to do
[11:14] <bazhang> bned, tried after removing skype?
[11:15]  * bned is trying
[11:16] <bned> hmm it works now :)
[11:16] <bned> thanks a lot! :)
[11:17] <bazhang> great :)
[11:17] <bned> but it's strange bug imo
[11:21] <jolala_> I just did an install but the font size on the login screen is to big (a letter almost uses the whole screen) how to fix this?
[11:27] <BlackIdentity> i have problem with VMware drivers !shared folders are not working :( and also not able to transfer any file from VM to host :(( ! any solution ! using = Xubuntu 9.04 ! please try to help me :p ! if any have a soluion for my prob !! <VMware updated >
[11:31] <BlackIdentity> i have problem with VMware drivers !shared folders are not working :( and also not able to transfer any file from VM to host :(( ! any solution ! using = Xubuntu 9.04 ! please try to help me :p ! if any have a soluion for my prob !! <VMware updated >
[11:35] <Freyr> is skype runing on jaunty ?
[11:38] <kaddi> Freyr: just installed it on my machine, seems to work fine :)
[11:39] <linux-hdtv__> How can i make a screenshot on Kubuntu 9.04 ?
[11:39] <Freyr> linux: use ksnapshot
[11:39] <linux-hdtv__> thank you, freyr
[11:40] <Freyr> :)
[11:40] <oobe> its binded to print key
[11:40] <oobe> print screen button
[11:42] <linux-hdtv__> that would be great, oobe, on kubuntu 9.04 64bit nothing happens when i press PrintScrn
[11:44] <oobe> ah ok
[11:44] <Freyr> is there a way that my quick cam logitech to work on jaunty ?
[11:44] <oobe> i have it disabled myself but that is my preference i thought defaults made it happen
[11:45] <Freyr> this is what lsusb returns: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger
[11:45] <oobe> linux-hdtv__, you can enable it in systemsettings
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !webcam
[11:47] <linux-hdtv__> oobe, under Input Actions ?
[11:54] <oobe> linux-hdtv__, keyboard & mouse
[11:59] <linux-hdtv__> oobe, under Keyboard & Mouse, KDE component: khotkeys, PrintScreen there is nothing ...
[11:59] <oobe> yeah you add in what you want that key to do
[12:00] <linux-hdtv__> (Keyboard & Mouse: Global Keyboard Shortcuts: KDE component: khotkeys: Printscreen)
[12:01] <oobe> Keyboard & Mouse: Global Keyboard Shortcuts: Kwin: Desktop screenshot to clipboard
[12:01] <linux-hdtv__> thanks :-) it's a bug in the window, when small, there is only grey space there, you have to maximise before the options become visible.
[12:03] <oobe> the way my keys are next ot each other i find it really annoying cause i accidently press it instead of backspace
[12:03] <oobe> and somtimes i press backspace several times so in kde3 i disabled it
[12:04] <oobe> or else i would somtimes launch 10 instances of ksnapshot at once
[12:05] <linux-hdtv__> i understand. Kubuntu 9.04 is very buggy, and i have the impression they are not interested in correcting bugs.
[12:07] <linux-hdtv__> under Global Keyboard Shortcuts: khotkeys: PrintScreen: Custom: "Print" is activated, but it has no effect: PrintScrn does not work.
[12:08] <iboga> jelou ayam yo mismx!!
[12:09] <iboga> your go the meys! o ke
[12:09] <linux-hdtv__> i just installed katalog, but bash says command not found.
[12:10] <claudio_> does anyone know how can i make directly the upgrate of my ubuntu 8.10 to the last ubuntu 9.04
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> claudio_: sudo update-manager-kde -d
[12:13] <bned> damn, jackalope gave errors during install and now A LOT is screwed up :/
[12:15] <bned> how can I alternatively activate video drivers of nVidia?
[12:21] <maco> claudio_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:21] <claudio_> thx so much
[12:25] <dsmith_> hello, I am running 8.04 and when I copy folders from one drive to another, it leaves a grey folder and seems to duplicate the folder instead of moving it
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> dsmith_: hold shift when you drag it
[12:26] <dsmith_> ok, but why does it do that?
[12:30] <dsmith_> ActionParsnip: why does it do that?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> dsmith_: the default is copy (i guess)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> dsmith_: depends on the file manager
[12:31] <dsmith_> heh I selected 'cut' in dolphin
[12:33] <claudio_> at what serves this file source.lit from (/etc/apt/sources.list
[12:35] <Freyr> !webcam
[12:40] <QContinueum> when doing a drive-to-drive click and drag on files, the default action is to copy
[12:40] <QContinueum> windows is the same way
[12:40] <QContinueum> or rather, that is also the case in xp
[12:42] <bned> I won't ever upgrade until the support exire for good
[12:42] <bned> too many problems ******
[12:44] <linux-hdtv__> bned, where ?
[12:44] <bned> kubuntu
[12:45] <bned> I had perfectly working OS with all I need, now half the programs are uninstalled for some reason and I have no display drivers :/
[12:45] <dsmith_> QContinueum: thats really odd
[12:45] <dsmith_> I highlight the batch of files and selected cut
[12:46] <dsmith_> ans then got the other drive and select paste
[12:47] <dsmith_> i'm trying konq now
[12:47] <bazhang> view hidden folders in dolphin? any ideas on how to do so?
[12:47] <bned> alt+.
[12:48] <bazhang> thanks :)
[12:50] <jarle> I fail to use the KDE 4.2 Network Management to setup a manual IP, I set Address <IP_ADDRESS> Netmask prefix <IP_ADDRESS> and gateway <IP_ADDRESS>, but I seem to be unable to actually apply these settings?
[12:51] <gio_> hi
[12:51] <melroy> Hellow
[12:52] <jarle> somehow the netmask prefix is always reset to 0 when I go back and edit the settings??
[12:53] <slap> does tor work under jaunty with kde 4.2?
[12:57] <akash> How to speed up Ktorrent speed???
[12:57] <etfb> I need to connect to my work computer from my Linux laptop at home, using VPN and Remote Desktop.  Is that possible with Kubuntu?
[12:57] <etfb> akash: 1. More seeds. 2. Fix your firewall. 3. Luck.
[12:58] <akash> Thanks for ur suggestion but doing iptables off will do the magic or not
[12:58] <geek_> akash: turn on protocol encryption as well
[13:11] <vbgunz> if you were testing jaunty all along with the jaunty repos. now that its finalized, there isn't anything to do but dist-upgrade right?
[13:15] <mackk431> hi kubuntu lover
[13:40] <oobe> vbgunz, if your still around the answer is yes that should work
[13:51] <amgarchIn9> are there some known issues with knetworkmanager in Jaunty. After upgrade it seems to be broken for me
[13:52] <_Whipper> amgarchIn9: for me a little buggy too..
[13:59] <ubsafder> can i change the language of a kubuntu install from english to whatever even after installed so all changes to that language ?
[14:00] <ubsafder> or once installed there will always be left over in english ?
[14:02] <bazhang> ubsafder, sure you can change
[14:03] <bazhang> ubsafder, you just need to install the necessary language packs
[14:03] <ubsafder> ok then i change kde locals ? of will that be done for me ?
[14:05] <ubsafder> like keyboards....
[14:05] <bazhang> ubsafder, you switch , then will be asked to install the packs (in jaunty at least)
[14:07] <vbgunz> anyone puts there computer to sleep? do you come back without a problem or is your screen black?
[14:08] <ubsafder> ok i will try and pray thanks for the tips
[14:16] <JuJuBee> Can someone help mee get my wireless card (ATH9K) working?  Network manager sees it lshw - C network displays it, but I cannot gett it to connect to my router.
[14:29] <JuJuBee> where is adept in the new kde4.2.2 menu's?
[14:33] <kaddi> JuJuBee: it used to be under settings, but with the update to jaunty it disapperared from my menu. You can just enter "adept" in the searchbox at the top and it will show you the matching entries :)
[14:35] <go7hic> aria2c rules ;)
[14:35] <go7hic> http://i44.tinypic.com/2nurmgw.png
[14:41] <JuJuBee> kaddi : doesn't seeem to be on my system  ? weird... intstalling now.
[14:45] <JuJuBee> Why does uname -r show 2.6.27-11 but I think I have 2.6.28-11 installed
[14:46] <oobe> JuJuBee, cause you booted 2.6.27 instead
[14:47] <oobe> modify menu.lst to boot 2.6.28
[14:47] <oobe> or select it when you boot
[14:47] <JuJuBee> Dont have 2.6.28 option in menu.lst
[14:48] <JuJuBee> can I copy paste and change
[14:49] <JuJuBee> change 27 to 28 ?
[14:57] <apparle> how to edit fstab to auto mount various drives
[15:08] <amstrong> hello
[15:08] <kaddi> hi :)
[15:08] <Guest36009> hi
[15:09] <amstrong> I use kubuntu 8.04.2 now
[15:09] <kaddi> nice :)
[15:10] <Guest36009> yes, Icd
[15:10] <amstrong> it is begin of my linux
[15:10] <amstrong> life
[15:10] <kaddi> so you like it? :)
[15:10] <amstrong> it is good
[15:10] <amstrong> yeah
[15:10] <mackk431> i love it
[15:11] <amstrong> all the prgrams is free,good
[15:11] <mackk431> where can i send the money
[15:12] <mackk431> i would like to give money to show its worth it
[15:12] <kaddi> !donation
[15:12] <jewel_> there anyway to uubuntu to jaunty wifast internet connection? i cant do it with alternate install cd which is also trying to get the packages downloaded from internet. is there any way out?
[15:12] <amstrong> i don't know
[15:13] <bazhang> !upgrade
[15:14] <jewel_> is there anyway to upgrade ubuntu to jaunty without fast internet connection? i cant do it with alternate install cd which is also trying to get the packages downloaded from internet. is there any way out?
[15:14] <amstrong> i'm updating to 9.04.2
[15:15] <amstrong> bye.
[15:16] <mackk431> i dont have a credit card
[15:16] <jewel_> i'm using a 20kbps line with which the upgrade will take about 12 hours. but i dont that much uninterrpted time.
[15:17] <amstrong> my about 50kb/s
[15:17] <amstrong> it's slowly too
[15:18] <kyle_> !twinkle
[15:18] <kyle_> !!twinkle
[15:18] <kyle_> twinkle!
[15:20] <nad> hello guys
[15:20] <nad> can I make a 3d cube in kubuntu
[15:21] <drbobb> hey I wanted to give the netbook remix interface a spin, so I installed ubuntu-netbook-remix on top of my kubuntu
[15:21] <drbobb> so far so good, but the netbook interface is malfunctioning for me in weird ways
[15:22] <drbobb> performance sucks, and especially my usb mouse isn't working correctly, the cursor lags horribly. The funny part is it behaves mostly normal if I use the touchpad(?)
[15:24] <m_tadeu> hi...my apport just quit working....now I don't get the report bug window....only the krash report window
[15:24] <m_tadeu> how can I make apport work again?
[15:31] <malik_> hi, is it possible that i install all the latest ubuntu updates  on my desktop and then use these downloaded updates to get my laptop updated?
[15:34] <kdjtar> malik_, yes. all you need is to copy the content of /var/cache/apt/archives from you desktop to you laptop (same directory)
[15:34] <kaddi>  i want to use dolphin to try my images. But the preview images are to small, is there a way of showing the images almost fullsize, with just one line of files, so that i can select files as i go along?
[15:35] <kaddi> and still see some details on the pictures?
[15:35] <javier__> hello kaddi
[15:36] <kaddi> hello javier__
[15:36] <kdjtar> kaddi, use the information panel on dolphin, if you can resize the panel, the preview image will be resized automatically
[15:36] <javier__> you have to select preview in the tool bar and next details
[15:36] <malik_> thanks kdjtar
[15:37] <kaddi> kdjtar ah thanks :)
[15:39] <kaddi> thanks javier__ got that :)
[15:47] <asdzxc> hi
[15:47] <asdzxc> i have problems with sound in 9.04
[15:47] <asdzxc> for example no sound in flash player
[15:47] <asdzxc> in Firefox
[15:47] <asdzxc> but when u run sudo firefox, sound works
[15:49] <psyco> hey, how do I change the colour of the amarok menu bar? its too light.
[15:49] <psyco> http://i41.tinypic.com/2hofeio.png
[15:49] <m_tadeu> asdzxc: try to remove a package called pulseaudio
[15:51] <asdzxc> m_tadeu: cool, it works now
[15:51] <m_tadeu> :)
[15:51] <asdzxc> m_tadeu: but i still don't have sound in mplayer
[15:53] <m_tadeu> I dont' know about that...since I don't use mplayer, I never ran into that problem
[15:55] <asdzxc> m_tadeu: thnx anyway, removeing pulseaudio fixed sound also in wine
[16:01] <mooperd> with 9.04 php files are downloading father than displaying in my browser. Apache2, php5
[16:01] <mooperd> has anyone else seen this
[16:01] <mooperd> ?
[16:01] <mooperd> Unsure if I should register this as a bug.
[16:02] <asdzxc> m_tadeu: adding -ao alsa to mplayer fixed the problem
[16:02] <asdzxc> m_tadeu: now i had to find how to set it in config file
[16:12] <tk> x
[16:15] <mooperd> when kubuntu is mounting disks, specifically a mac disk that I have, I am not able to access the files in the home directories without root access.
[16:15] <mooperd> can I change a setting so that the disks mount with full permissions for everyone?
[16:15] <mooperd> automatically
[16:16] <dwidmann> mooperd: well, on a partition by partition basis, you can set that up in the /etc/fstab file
[16:16] <ch_> hello
[16:16] <mooperd> dwidmann: nah, I want any disk that I plug in on the usb to have full permissions for everyone to do whatever.
[16:16] <dwidmann> or you can just chmod it if it's a *nix style permission, so user 1000 owns the files/dirs
[16:17] <mooperd> I plug in a lot of disks!
[16:17] <dwidmann> mooperd: hmm, I dunno about that, if it can be done, it probably has something to do with hal or udev
[16:17] <mooperd> chmod all the files? that would break the file systems.
[16:17] <dwidmann> mooperd: oh?
[16:18] <mooperd> dwidmann: yeah, they are typically internal disks and so on that have to go back to being internal disks once I have got the data off etc
[16:19] <dwidmann> mooperd: gotcha
[16:19] <rogorido> asdzxc: for mplayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77329.html
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> mooperd: use /etc/fstab and use the blkid, you can then plug in what you want and it will mount with those options
[16:22] <dwidmann> hmm, blkid eh? sounds interesting
[16:26] <bazhang> !blkid
[16:28] <drbobb> ok maybe there is a channel dedicated to the netbook remix?
[16:29] <drbobb> !ubuntu-netbook-remix
[16:29] <drbobb> !netbook
[16:29] <mooperd> Is there any way of controlling how disks are mounted in kubuntu with the device notifyer thing?
[16:29] <juan_> Anybody runing 9.04 ?
[16:29] <drbobb> bah
[16:29] <mooperd> juan_: eye
[16:30] <tsimpson> s/eye/aye/
[16:30] <juan_> Ive downloaded it twice burned twice with ultimate iso and cant get it too boot?
[16:30] <juan_> it just spins and shoots the finger at me?
[16:30] <tsimpson> ultimate iso?
[16:30] <juan_> yeah
[16:30] <juan_> you got it cooking?
[16:31] <tsimpson> we don't have anything to do with the "ultimate edition"
[16:31] <dwidmann> juan_: You'll find most people tend to follow the current release (some will follow the current LTS though)
[16:31] <Zorix> how can i fix pulseaudio sound so it doesnt do static instead of real sound
[16:32] <juan_> sorry i dont get you dwidmann?
[16:33] <juan_> moodperd is it worth it?
[16:34] <Zorix> kubuntu gets worse with every release
[16:34] <dwidmann> While we're on the topic of device notifier + mounting + stuff, I've got a question of my own. Is there any way to make them mount automatically as soon as they're detected?
[16:34] <Zorix> why is this
[16:34] <dwidmann> Zorix: define worse
[16:34] <Zorix> less things work in new version then previous one
[16:35] <Zorix> and dont bother telling me about bug reports because they dont do anything with them
[16:35] <dwidmann> Hmm, everything seems to !workforme
[16:35] <DarthFrog_>  dwidmann: Including knetworkmanager?
[16:36] <dwidmann> DarthFrog_: hm, I'm wired
[16:36] <DarthFrog_> Wired works.  Wireless is b0rked.
[16:36] <Zorix> maybe i should switch to ubuntu or fedora instead
[16:36] <Zorix> oh dont bother with knetworkmanager
[16:36] <dwidmann> DarthFrog_: collective opinion seems to suggest that the worst part about Kubuntu 9.04 is knetworkmanager
[16:37] <Zorix> i filed a bug report on that one.. it doesnt work either
[16:37] <DarthFrog_> Zorix: Mandriva has a new release which is getting lots of praise.
[16:37] <dwidmann> Zorix: not bothering with knetworkmanager sounds like a good idea
[16:37] <Zorix> nice
[16:37] <Zorix> i been a ubuntu person for 4 years now
[16:37] <rogorido> Zorix: try mandriva
[16:37] <Zorix> every new release has been worse than the previous
[16:37] <rogorido> but give kubuntu 910 a chance ;-)
[16:38] <DarthFrog_> I would have thought that knetworkmanager being b0rked would have been a show-stopper.
[16:38] <Zorix> im trying to figure what else they can break in 9.10
[16:38] <Zorix> yea me too
[16:38] <Zorix> which leads me to believe they dont care about kubuntu
[16:39] <DarthFrog_> Perhaps not care is somewhat strong.  Rather, it would seem that Ubuntu waits for no derivative.
[16:39] <dwidmann> Zorix: they care about the LTS release 1000x more than the regular ones, if you can, use those
[16:39] <bindaas> kde4 should not have come as default
[16:39] <DarthFrog_> KDE4 rocks!
[16:39] <dwidmann> bindaas: KDE3 is no longer maintained
[16:39] <Zorix> i rather like kde4 by appearance but its not complete
[16:40] <bindaas> kde 4 rocks only in appearance
[16:40] <DarthFrog_> Nothing is ever complet.  Otherwise why would there ever be updates?
[16:40] <Zorix> updates to fix things
[16:40] <dwidmann> Software doesn't get finished, software gets released.
[16:40] <Zorix> feature complete i mean
[16:40] <DarthFrog_> Feature complete?  Then why would there ever be new versions?
[16:40] <Zorix> anyways whats the deal with pulseaudio and why is it so crappy
[16:41] <Zorix> kde 3.5 was feature complete it just got stability fixes and bug fixes etc
[16:41] <DarthFrog_> Therefore, feature complete = development stopped.
[16:41] <Zorix> no because 10 more releases after 3.5 was released
[16:43] <bindaas> i have stopped using kde after experiencing kubuntu 8.10 for less than a hour,kde 4 can't be used on a workstation
[16:44] <Zorix> if you think that was bad
[16:44] <dwidmann> bindaas: upgraded to KDE 4.2.x ... quite a bit better
[16:44] <Zorix> try 9.04
[16:44] <dwidmann> bindaas: and KDE4.3 in a couple months will be even better still
[16:45] <Zorix> i wish someone would tell kde to ditch 4.x and either start over again or continue 3.5
[16:46] <DarthFrog_> Zorix: What's your issue with KDE4.2.2?  Other than knetworkmanager in Jaunty, it seems just tickety-boo to me.
[16:46] <dwidmann> Zorix: why's that? KDE4 practically was starting over ... it was a massive overhaul
[16:46] <DarthFrog_> Besides, you don't have to run KDE4.  You can stick with KDE3.
[16:46] <bindaas> dwidmann: i will wait for next 3-4 kubuntu releases to use it again,i can't believe they have fixed  even 50% of bugs :p
[16:47] <DarthFrog_> But 4 is the future.
[16:47] <bindaas> yep
[16:47] <dwidmann> DarthFrog_: the future is now :)
[16:47] <DarthFrog_> Oh how profound. :-)
[16:47] <Zorix> my favorite bug is the graphics glitches that appear all over the screen at random times.. right now i have part of google search, dolphin, and konversation jumbled graphic glitch right on my channel listing in konversation
[16:47] <bindaas> kde 3 should come as default ,kde 4 should be experimental
[16:48] <dwidmann> bindaas: if everybody stayed with KDE3, no progress would be made, no bugs would be fixed
[16:48] <Zorix> im not a windows user but i cant recommend this garbage to windows people because i get laughed at
[16:48] <DarthFrog_> bindaas: Well, then that would put the Kubuntu devs in the uninteresting position of maintaining obsolete code.
[16:48] <Zorix> bugs arent getting fixed anyways so whats the point
[16:49] <DarthFrog_> Zorix: Recommend Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, right now.  Ubuntu is more mature.
[16:49] <dwidmann> KDE3.5 being no longer maintained is why they didn't support the Kubuntu Desktop as LTS for the 8.04 release
[16:49] <Zorix> yea
[16:49] <dwidmann> Zorix: http://bugs.kde.org
[16:49] <dwidmann> Zorix: many bugs are fixed every day!
[16:49] <Zorix> but im betting this graphics bug and pulseaudio nightmare is also in ubuntu
[16:49] <Zorix> none of mine are
[16:50] <DarthFrog_> If Kubuntu had stayed with KDE3, it would stagnate.  Who would be interested in advancing an obsolete system?
[16:50] <wvmac> it easy to see that this is just the beginning of what kde4 will do and become
[16:50] <Zorix> i always think about linus moving to gnome.. thought hell would freeze over.. guess he was right
[16:51] <danco> kde4 is great!
[16:51] <DarthFrog_> I'm kinda thinking that Kubuntu will be pretty much mostly for those who can provide their own support and only need a pointer in the right direction every once in a while rather than those who continually need their hand held.
[16:51] <bindaas> DarthFrog_: and by the time kde4 with kubuntu Y.x is usable,half of the users would have stopped using it
[16:52] <FRENCH> Help someone has rooted my machine
[16:52] <drbobb> ok, let me venture a guess: kde4 becomes mature at release 4.5.10, and soon after is dropped. A new, fuly broken kde5 appears to take its place..
[16:52] <DarthFrog_> bindaas: Well, then when it is as usuable as you want it to be, they can come back. -)
[16:52] <wvmac> DarthFrog: i hope that is their goal because i don't like holding hands
[16:52] <Zorix> DarthFrog_: i dont need my hand held i have been using linux for 12 years and i came here as a last resort before completely ditching this distro
[16:52] <FRENCH> what shall i do?
[16:52] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH:  Then unplug your network cable and re-install.
[16:52] <Lykanthrop> anyone knows if there's a PPA with KDE 4.3 Snapshot?
[16:52] <dwidmann> AS far as what I've heard, drbobb, they're hoping KDE4 can last a long, long time
[16:53] <dwidmann> !neon | lykanthrop
[16:53] <dwidmann> maybe
[16:53] <DarthFrog_> In a while (a year I expect) KDE4 will surpass KDE3.
[16:53] <Lykanthrop> thanks, dwidmann
[16:54] <wvmac> Zorix: this is the best kubuntu release yet. you would be leaving at the wrong time
[16:54] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH:  And then choose a stronger password and get behind a router.
[16:54] <FRENCH> How do i set a different password?
[16:55] <FRENCH> I really dont know much and this dude took advantage. Stupidly i fell for it
[16:55] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH: If you've been rooted, you really should re-install!!
[16:55] <mackk431> how got your machine routed @FRENCH
[16:55] <FRENCH> Its a long story
[16:55] <mackk431> ok i am listining
[16:56] <DarthFrog_> And changing your password now likely wouldn't help you.    Experience comes from bad judgement.
[16:56] <FRENCH> yeah
[16:57] <DarthFrog_> Re-install and be done with it.
[16:57] <FRENCH> Shall i reset my root password?
[16:58] <mackk431> i would suggest to reinstall and choose a different login name and a different password
[16:58] <bazhang> FRENCH, there is no root password, so no.
[16:58] <FRENCH> kk cheers mackk431
[16:58] <FRENCH> hmm
[16:59] <Zorix> wvmac: i cant set a static ip using any gui tool, my audio is completely broken, i have graphics glitches all over the place, the system lags bad.. its the worst one yet
[17:00] <daniele> ciao
[17:00] <Zorix> worst part is devs are either new to software development or dont know where to find the bug tracker
[17:00] <blindmelon> la lingua italiana
[17:01] <Zorix> im almost inclined to contact shuttleworth see if he knows how bad his distro is getting
[17:01] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH: If youi don't re-install and if he's installed a rootkit (overwhelmingly likely), then no matter what  you do, your machine is *permanently* rooted.
[17:01] <bazhang> Zorix, did you have a support question?
[17:02] <FRENCH> Shit
[17:02] <FRENCH> Sorry
[17:02] <bazhang> Zorix, or just looking for a place to rant/complain?
[17:02] <Zorix> i did but i dont think its going to get answered either
[17:02] <FRENCH> For swearing
[17:02] <FRENCH> Damnit
[17:02] <Zorix> i asked how can i fix the pulse audio static sound issue
[17:02] <FRENCH> DarthFrog_, if i dont need to reinstall what should i do then?
[17:02] <bazhang> Zorix, there is a channel to chat ---> #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:02] <Zorix> thanks for the support
[17:03] <bazhang> you're welcome.
[17:03] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH: You do need to re-install.  WIth a new password.
[17:03] <Zorix> idiot
[17:03] <bazhang> Zorix, no need for that.
[17:03] <FRENCH> kk
[17:05] <mackk431> if you dont reinstall i would watch the internet traffic and if you have suspicious ips reinstall
[17:05] <mackk431> use a sniffer or ip logger
[17:05] <FRENCH> DarthFrog_, i changed my login pass.
[17:05] <FRENCH> Is that a start?
[17:06] <DarthFrog_> It's a start.  Now check for a rootkit.
[17:06] <FRENCH> kk
[17:06] <FRENCH> kk
[17:06] <bazhang> !info rkhunter
[17:08] <FRENCH> cant find a rootkit on ere DarkriftX
[17:08] <FRENCH> DarthFrog_*
[17:09] <DarthFrog_> Actually, to be accurate, you can't find a rootkit that the program you used knows about.  Still you might well be OK.  If it were me, I'd reinstall to be sure.
[17:10] <FRENCH> reinstall what exactly?
[17:10] <wvmac> does anyone know why digikam 0.10.0 in 9.04 doesn't change the theme colors like it is supposed to. under other distros it works.
[17:11] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH: The whole operating system.  You can backup your home directory first.
[17:11] <FRENCH> DarthFrog_, does that mean i have to set up the internet and everything again?
[17:12] <DarthFrog_> Yep.
[17:12] <FRENCH> ugh
[17:12] <DarthFrog_> Scrub the disk.
[17:12] <FRENCH> Cant go through that again i just cant
[17:12] <DarthFrog_> Learn from your mistakes. :-)
[17:12] <FRENCH> Its to much agro took me 2 weeks to get online ;(
[17:12] <DarthFrog_> it'll be easier the second time. :-)
[17:12] <DarthFrog_> What?   If i change my ip as well hopefully i will be safe
[17:14] <DarthFrog_> bazhang: Well, what I should say is knetworkmanager is broken.  I can get wireless working manually with wpa_supplicant.
[17:14] <bazhang> DarthFrog_, aha
[17:15] <kasubay__> how can I stop a file transfer from dolphin? I can only find the info bar sometimes but it appears again and again so I dont think I closed it..
[17:15] <kasubay__> help? ;)
[17:15] <bazhang> DarthFrog_, knetworkmanager has never worked for me
[17:15] <drbobb> guys, the nm-plasma-applet works not too bad if a working driver for your card is present
[17:15] <bazhang> from dapper onwards
[17:16] <ch_> once started, regardless which browser (opera,ff, konqueror) the memory usage goes up but doesn't go down again.
[17:16] <DarthFrog_> bazhang: Which will be the method that almost all users will use to attempt wireless networking.
[17:16] <bazhang> sudo dhclient wlan0 works though
[17:16] <DarthFrog_> drbobb: Yes, it does.  But that is not the default in Kubuntu.  You have to know about it.
[17:16] <bazhang> I thought Zorix quit :)
[17:17] <FRENCH> whats the command to find out my routers ip address?
[17:17] <DarthFrog_> Personally, I would like to see wireless networking (and networking in general) set up during the install.
[17:17] <bazhang> ifconfig / iwconfig
[17:17] <FRENCH> thanks
[17:17] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH: It's LAN address or WAN address?
[17:18] <FRENCH> Wlan
[17:18] <drbobb> DarthFrog_: I did a clean install of Jaunty, and I don't think knetworkmanager is even present
[17:18] <DarthFrog_> FRENCH: Come again?
[17:18] <DarthFrog_> drbobb: I think you're correct.
[17:19] <annma> hi people, is there a KUbuntu French channel please?
[17:19] <DarthFrog_> !fr
[17:20] <annma> thanks DarthFrog_
[17:20] <DarthFrog_> de rien.
[17:22] <drbobb> otoh my broadcom wouldn't work without b43-fwcutter, and iirc I needed to add that manually
[17:23] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: you still around? Mind giving the details of that blkid setup you mentioned earlier? I hadn't realized it before ... but i actually have a use for it myself (now) ... looks like I need to mount with -o utf8...
[17:25] <khaije1> amazing, the ubuntu channel has consistently grown but this chan is about the same size, isn't that weird?
[17:26] <annma> DarthFrog_: not much luck in #ubuntu-fr
[17:26] <annma> maybe they do not use KDE
[17:26] <DarthFrog_> annma:  C'est la vie. Sorry.
[17:27] <rmrfslash_> Is there anyway to tell if you're on an 802.11n connection?
[17:27] <annma> damn
[17:27] <rmrfslash_> Other than just transferring files and checking the speed
[17:27] <ch_> \ch
[17:27] <annma> maybe there are people with KDE 4.2.1 in German here?
[17:27] <mackk431> i used rkhunter also and he gives me 2 warnings http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1410429
[17:28] <mackk431> do you guys have an idea?
[17:28] <khaije1> annma: i know, i just would have thought the growth would be more even
[17:29] <xjjk> khaije1, annma: it could also mean that Kubuntu users are more satisified than Ubuntu users and have no need to be on IRC
[17:29] <annma> lol I don't think so
[17:29] <xjjk> my opinion, of course ; )
[17:29] <DarthFrog_> mackk431: Looks like they are for pulseaudio.
[17:29] <ch_> ich mag schweinsbraten
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> !blkid | dwidmann
[17:30] <khaije1> xjjk: i think thats a good poing
[17:30] <khaije1> *point
[17:30] <kasubay__> how can I stop samba file transfers
[17:30] <kasubay__> ?
[17:30] <mackk431> yeah its something with pulseaudia rkhunter doesnt like
[17:30] <DarthFrog_> !de | annma
[17:30] <annma> I don't speak German
[17:31] <DarthFrog_> mackk431: Then there's nothing to worry about. :-)
[17:31] <annma> I only want to check a possible bug
[17:31] <mackk431> hm
[17:31] <annma> with utf8 chars in translation
[17:31] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: hum, all that shows is the UUIDs/labels, that doesn't do me any good
[17:33] <ch_> Hello everybody! I have a problem with browsers (opera,ff, konqueror). Once opened the memory usage goes up but doesn't go down again despite closing tabs. Anyone knows a fix?
[17:34] <alandd> Amarok in 9.04 doesn't have a Devices tab?  How do I talk to my iPod?
[17:34] <p_quarles> ch_: that doesn't sound like a problem
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: if you read your /etc/fstab you can see how those codes are used
[17:35] <kasubay__> which file contains my settings?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: add an entry for each blkid you get from each partition and add it to fstab
[17:35] <p_quarles> alandd: Amarok 2 doesn't have that feature yet
[17:35] <ch_> shouldn't the memory usage go down again after closing tabs?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> alandd: lots of folks are using amarok 1.4 from a PPA due to amarok 2 not having half the decent stuff in 1.4 (I use 1.4 for XUL remote)
[17:36] <alandd> p_quarles: Really? Wow. Seems like that would be a mandatory feature.
[17:36] <p_quarles> ch_: "memory usage" is more complicated than how you're characterizing it
[17:36] <alandd> ActionParsnip: What is a PPA?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> alandd: want the 1.4 repo for jaunty?
[17:37] <alandd> ActionParsnip: Oh, yea!
[17:38] <lorecaster> in partnership with my OCD, i have an icon on my desktop that i cannot get rid of. last night, while trying to mount an IMG file, i was given instructions to moutn it in terminal in a temp folder... and the file corrupted somehow and i deleted it. now i cannot get rid of the temp1 mount on my desktop... gives me the error "umount: /media/temp is not in the fstab (and you are not root)" when i right-click, unmoutn
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> alandd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/162954/
[17:38] <lorecaster> -whimpers- help?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> alandd: add that to /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: recreate the img file with   touch
[17:38] <lorecaster> touch?
[17:39] <maco> lorecaster: reboot?
[17:39] <maco> lorecaster: or even..log out and in?
[17:39] <lorecaster> tried rebooting
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: it creates a file named whatever you touch, or changes the last accessed date
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> if the file exists
[17:39] <maco> wait did you make the directory and then mount it there? cuz you have to rm the mountpoint after you're done...
[17:40] <lorecaster> i found the img file in the trash...
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: if there is nothing mounted to the folder yu can ndelete it
[17:40] <lorecaster> so sudo rm /media/temp1?
[17:40] <ch_> I just recall that on my WinXP install the memory ,used only by the browser, would go down by closing tabs...
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: sudo rm -rf /media/temp1
[17:41] <lorecaster> lorecaster@lorecaster-desktop:~$ sudo rm -rf /media/temp1
[17:41] <lorecaster> rm: cannot remove directory `/media/temp1': Device or resource busy
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> alandd: thne run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install amarok14
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: i'd boot to root recovery console and delete it there
[17:42] <lorecaster> alright... anyone else offer any other advice before i reboot?
[17:42] <Adola> Ok, I'm about to upgrade to 9,04.  BUT, it says "This computer is running the AMD "fglrx" graphics driver.  No version of this driver is avaliable that works with your hardware in Unbutnu 9,.04.  do you want to continu?
[17:42] <Adola> i need fglrx, or atleast, I THINK I do.
[17:42] <alandd> ActionParsnip: Tried to do it through the KPackageKit. amarok14 does not come up in the list. I'll restart it. (I like to do things the GUI way since my non-geek friends like that kind of help)
[17:43] <DarthFrog_> lorecaster: Well, you could use fuser to free the file/device.
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> alandd: the gui sucks dude, its really unnecessary imho
[17:43] <DarthFrog_> Then delete it. You don't have to reboot.
[17:43] <DarthFrog_> !fuser | lorecaster
[17:43] <DarthFrog_> Hmm.
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> alandd: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> alandd: copy and paste, save, exit, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install amarok14
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> alandd: slick, fast, easy
[17:44] <alandd> ActionParsnip: I agree.  Going that path now.
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> alandd: i never use gui for samba, apt and mounting
[17:45] <Adola> So, what do I do if I want to upgrade to 9.04?
[17:46] <DarthFrog_> Adola: From what version?
[17:46] <Adola> DarthFrog_: 8.10
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Adola: sudo update-manger-kde -d
[17:46] <DarthFrog_> Adola: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:47] <Adola> It's saying that I'm using AMD fglrx...and that no version of taht is avaliable for 9.04
[17:47] <DarthFrog_> Either works. :-)
[17:47] <bindaas> ch_: check that by doing cat /proc/pid/status|grep -i vmsize
[17:47] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Hmm.  Try running jockey-kde and removing flgrx if its there.
[17:47] <lorecaster> that worked! thanks!
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> alandd: if you can master non-gui methods you can manage your system with ssh console ;)
[17:48] <Adola> DarthFrog_: Well, it says I can continue...But, I need fglrx.  I use it.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> lorecaster: which way?
[17:48] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Then you don't want to upgrade right now.
[17:48] <Adola> GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Adola: if 8.10 works for you, don't fix it
[17:49] <Adola> I always want the new stuff.....
[17:49] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Or do the upgrade then manually install the flgrx drivers from the ATI website.
[17:49] <Adola> Is that possible/
[17:49] <alandd> ActionParsnip: I prefer the command line.  I use the GUI so I know how it works and can help my command line phobic friends
[17:49] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Lead you not unto temptation, you can find it all by yourself?  :-)
[17:50] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Yes, it's possible.  If you know what you're doing.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> alandd: i try to teach cli ways, specially in irc as its a text based chat
[17:50] <DarthFrog_> And if you don't know what  you're doing, there be dragons!
[17:50] <Adola> Oh dear....
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> alandd: if you can get them to forward a port for you then you can connect to their PCs and do it for them ;)
[17:51] <Adola> God, this is rather dissapointing.
[17:51] <Adola> I can't believe they didn't make a driver for fglrx....Isn't that kinda popular?
[17:51] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Who is they?
[17:52] <Asus> hi
[17:52] <DarthFrog_> Flgrx *is* the driver. :-)
[17:52] <p_quarles> fglrx *is* a driver, last I checked...
[17:52] <Adola> they=people who maintain linux.
[17:52] <Asus> anybody managed to get broadcom WIRELESS working??
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Adola: depends who you ask, intel is more popular and is having masses of issues with video
[17:52] <Adola> Sorry, I meant make a driver for 9,04
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom > Asus
[17:52] <DarthFrog_> Adola: flgrx is ATI proprietary.
[17:52] <Adola> I didn't know it was proprietary.
[17:53] <Adola> I thought they gave out source.
[17:53] <DarthFrog_> Nope.
[17:53] <Adola> So, as of right now, there is no luck for me....
[17:53] <maco> Adola: nope, definitely proprietary. there's an open source ati driver called "ati" that works well on older cards
[17:53] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Well now, I didn't say that.
[17:53] <DarthFrog_> :-)
[17:53] <alandd> ActionParsnip: Amarok 1.4 up and running. rebuilding collection database. Complained that could not open sound device, though.
[17:53] <DarthFrog_> !radeon | adola
[17:53] <alandd> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help, BTW!
[17:54] <Asus> 00:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> alandd: np bro
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Asus
[17:54] <Asus> does it mean i need b43-legacy?
[17:55] <Asus> (rev 02)
[17:55] <Adola> This seems to be writen for 8/04
[17:56] <Asus> i will try installing b43-fwcutter
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Asus: if all else fails, ndiswrapper is an option
[17:57] <Asus> see you in another 5 minutes
[17:57] <Adola> Well, I would consider using this, as I have an x300...But, the most recent one listed was for 8.04
[17:59] <alandd> New problem with Amarok 1.4 on 9.04. Amarok sound system choices only include Xine. Xine not installed on my computer and apt-get reports no source for it.
[18:00] <DarthFrog_> Adola: You could use the radeon driver instead of flgrx.
[18:00] <Adola> Will that work just as well?
[18:00] <alandd> Wait... Found amarok13-engine-xine package.  I'll try that!
[18:01] <DarthFrog_> Adola: Just as well?  Don't know, I don't have a Radeon card.
[18:01] <Adola> Oh dear....
[18:01] <DarthFrog_> Adola: http://psung.blogspot.com/2009/02/configuring-radeon-r600r700-devices-on.html
[18:02] <Adola> r600/r700?  What's that?
[18:02] <kasubay> Could someone please tell me how I can copy my kde settings etc to another computer?
[18:02] <Adola> I see....
[18:02] <rogorido> kasubay: there are in HOME/.kde/
[18:02] <DarthFrog_> Adola:  The GPU on the video card.
[18:02] <p_quarles> kasubay: copy the .kde directory
[18:03] <kasubay> I cant find that directory
[18:03] <kasubay> is it usually invisible?
[18:04] <DarthFrog_> kasubay: Files & directories that start with a "." are hidden.  That's what the "." means.
[18:04] <kasubay> aaah, thx
[18:04] <kasubay> sorry I'newbe
[18:04] <kasubay> found it
[18:05] <kasubay> paste it on the other computer an reboot?
[18:05] <kasubay> or will it block, since it is in usage?
[18:05] <DarthFrog_> kasubay: Try this, from the command line.  "cd" "tar zcvf kde.tgz .kde"
[18:06] <DarthFrog_> Then copy the resulting kde.tgz file to the new computer and "cd" "tar zxvf kde.tgz".
[18:06] <DarthFrog_> Yes, I know he could pipe it there. :-)
[18:07] <kasubay> it says
[18:07] <kasubay> kasubay@kasubay-laptop:~$ tar zxvf kde.tgz
[18:07] <kasubay> tar: kde.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[18:07] <kasubay> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[18:07] <kasubay> tar: Child returned status 2
[18:07] <kasubay> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[18:08] <alandd> ActionParsnip: All is well now with Amarok.  I had an Adobe AIR application open, hogging the sound system.  Thank you again!
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> kasubay: please use pastebin in future for multilined outputs
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> alandd: awesome, np man
[18:08] <kasubay> k
[18:08] <DarthFrog_> !pastebin | kasubay
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> alandd: i sugest xul tremote dude
[18:09] <DarthFrog_> kasubay: You did not copy the kde.tgz file you made to your home directory on your laptop.
[18:10] <hagabaka> when I press down a key it used to "autofire", but now it doesn't. any way to change it back?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> alandd: you an control arok via an xul enabled browser
[18:10] <kasubay> mmh, so what do I have to do different?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> alandd: like a remote contro
[18:11] <alandd> ActionParsnip: I'll have to try that.
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> alandd: its swet, works with Android based mobile phons to :D
[18:11] <drbobb> Hey, any idea where I might find help with ubuntu-netbook-remix?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !unr
[18:12] <DarthFrog_> !netbook
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Il get a factoid added
[18:14] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: that page is kind of outdated, and it doesn't answer my questions anyway
[18:15] <devilsadvocate> hi - i'm trying to get some usb to serial stuff to work. modprobe usbserial gives me a no such module error. did it change/move or something? any help would be appreciated
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: it has a link to the  ig, what moe do you ed
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> *need
[18:16] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: ig?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: or add the repo: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/netbook-remix-team/ubuntu jaunty main
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install desktop-switcher go-home-applet human-netbook-theme maximus ume-launcher window-picker-applet metacity
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: its all on that link, why is that not EXACTLY what you wanted?
[18:16] <Asus> omfg
[18:17] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: UNR is available in Jaunty without any of that
[18:17] <drbobb> aptitude install ubuntu-netbook-remix, and there
[18:18] <drbobb> but performance of the netbook interface is horrible, I wanted to learn whether there's a way to tweak it to usable
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: well its a different way
[18:18] <Asus> ActionParsnip: so there is no way?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Asus: of what?
[18:19] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: I mean it's horribly slow, stalls, mouse cursor's lagging etc.
[18:19] <Asus> i mean, to install a wifi driver i need to download firmware from the internet
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Asus: use a wired connection until you get on your feet is all i can suggest, or use a usb stick
[18:19] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: it simply isn't usable on a 1GB RAM machine
[18:19] <Asus> what if i got not wired connection
[18:20] <drbobb> or I am doing something wrong
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: really, i can run a full desktop system on 1Gb ram
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: i dont own a system with more than 1Gb ram
[18:20] <Asus> what do you mean by using a usb stick??
[18:20] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: well so can I, and I do. How is that relevant to my question?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: id have thought the remix wiuld need less
[18:21] <baker> hi all
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Asus: download the files you need from a system with web access and transfer with a usb stick
[18:21] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: if I'm finding the netbook remix unusable, I must be doing something wrong, no?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: why is it that you always have an attitude when i talk to you?
[18:21] <baker> i wanna ask something
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> !ask | baker
[18:22] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: my apology if that's what you felt, it just seemed to me you weren't addressing my question
[18:22] <baker> i have ubuntu 9.04 amd 64
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: submit a bug for the remix
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: its ok dude :D
[18:22] <baker> what best firewall use for it
[18:22] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: of course "I don't know" is a valid answer but I was hoping for a different one
[18:23] <baker> what best firewall use for it
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: indeed, ive not used it personally but will be looking into it once i get my new hdd
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> best | baker
[18:23] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: well I just got a new hdd ;-)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> !best | baker
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | baker
[18:26] <baker> u mean i don't need firewall but there's hide firewall into system
[18:26] <baker> right
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> baker: one is installed but not really configured, if you are using a router its not really needed
[18:27] <baker> i connect from lan
[18:27] <baker> how i configure it
[18:27] <baker> sorry i know hard q
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> baker: read the guides
[18:29] <baker> ok thx
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> baker: if you use lan and a router to share connection then it has a decent firewall due to the nature of nat
[18:35] <Adola> Hey, anyone here use "Phun"?
[18:36] <sponzor> hi
[18:36] <sponzor> how to change video .avi to wave? or someting that i can record to cd like audio cd :P
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> !info phun
[18:37] <Adola> Well, I only ask, because I donwloaded it from the site, but I don't know how to...play it?  Or install it, or whatever I have to do...It's a .tarzip
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Adola: tar zxvf <file>
[18:38] <Adola> I've extracted it.
[18:39] <Adola> I mean, i don't know how to run it.  Iv'e never known how to do things like this.
[18:40]  * KiRiLoS is away: AFK
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> !away > KiRiLoS
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Adola: you need to read the contents of the folder there will be an INSTALL or README file
[18:43] <Adola> I read the contents of the README file.
[18:43] <Adola> It had nothing but a change log.
[18:45] <Adola> I opened a terminal in the folder.  and "./phun" (There was a script called phun in the folder) and it said
[18:45] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~/Phun$ ./phun
[18:45] <Adola>   There are missing dependencies.
[18:45] <Adola>   Please make sure that all the required libraries are installed.
[18:45] <baker> hello again
[18:45] <Adola>   Missing:
[18:45] <Adola>         libpng.so.3 => not found
[18:45] <baker> thx for help me in firewall
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Adola: you can use apt-file to see what package that file is in
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> baker: np bro
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Adola: or you can nwebsearch
[18:50] <iltano852> que es este?
[18:50] <iltano852> que es esto????
[18:50] <wizardslovak> hello
[18:50] <iltano852> hello
[18:50] <wizardslovak> what channel is ubuntu server on?
[18:50] <iltano852> hablas españos?
[18:50] <sponzor> how to change video .avi to mp3? or someting that i can record to cd like audio cd :P
[18:50] <iltano852> español?
[18:50] <ch_> !ppa
[18:51] <zzAMzz> !es
[18:51] <oobe> does anyone know how i get it to not show applications on desktop 1 when im using desktop 2 etc.
[18:55] <oobe> like when i switch desktops i dont want to see apps running on desktop on in the  task bar
[18:57] <blackoo> gostei
[18:58] <Adola> ActionParsnip: I can't find this nwebsearch
[18:59] <corpo> hola
[18:59] <maela> hola
[18:59] <maela> ?kes la casa ?
[18:59] <corpo> Hola maela..que haces?
[18:59] <Adola> !espenol
[18:59] <DarthFrog_> !es | maela
[19:00] <Adola> Whoops :P
[19:00] <Adola> !es
[19:00] <maela> Aïe aïe aïe ki touse est
[19:01] <ch_> I checked via cat /proc/pid/status | grep -i vmsize and it seems that firefox claims about 10MB more even after closing all tabs compared to starting. Anyway better than what system monitor said. Thanks bindaas!
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Adola: websearch i meant
[19:04] <BluesKaj> howdy
[19:05] <Adola> I can't find anything about install ing libpng.so.3
[19:06] <wizardslovak> whats the command to get flash player?
[19:06] <wizardslovak> apt-get install flash??
[19:08] <k4_k4_> apt-cache search flash
[19:09] <k4_k4_> flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package)
[19:09] <drbobb> heck the netbook remix doesn't play too well with the rest of my system. No matter what, I can't prevent maximus from starting up in my gnome sessions, and the netbook launcher wants to start up even in a kde session
[19:10] <BluesKaj> trying to get the Network manager to recognize my Belkin F5D8053N USB wifi adapter. I followed the instructions for ndiswrapper and running the windows driver within wine , but the driver fails to install completely. I guess that's the reason for the recognition failure . Any ideas or suggestions ?
[19:11] <corpo> hello
[19:13] <wizardslovak> lol you tube doesnt work
[19:14] <ch_> cu
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !flash | wizardslovak
[19:15] <wizardslovak> got it work
[19:15] <wizardslovak> thx
[19:20] <romain_> hi
[19:33] <charly_> hola
[19:33] <nonamegod> LO
[19:34] <nonamegod> think i'l tray this new client
[19:34] <nonamegod> so.... cul8r
[19:34] <nonamegod> :)
[19:36] <hume> hi...just upgraded to jaunty, and now I find nowhere in amarok where to connect my mp3-player --anyone knows how to connect media players in new amarok?
[19:37] <PROject-Emerald> I have a really serious problem...
[19:37] <PROject-Emerald> my computers display is entirely purple
[19:37] <PROject-Emerald> every window is the color purple, anything white is purple, text is light purple
[19:37] <PROject-Emerald> and it just randomly happened
[19:37] <DarthFrog_> PROject-Emerald: Wow, you must really like purple.
[19:37] <PROject-Emerald> No like
[19:37] <PROject-Emerald> I don't know how to fix it
[19:37]  * DarthFrog_ is grinning, ducking and running.
[19:38]  * PROject-Emerald arms his .9MMUSP45
[19:38] <DarthFrog_> PROject-Emerald: Sounds like either  your video card or your monitor is dying.
[19:38] <PROject-Emerald> NOOOOOOO
[19:38] <DarthFrog_> Try booting into another OS and see if its happening there.  Or booting the Live CD.
[19:39] <PROject-Emerald> Well it's a Dell Dimension 2400... and when I restarted the entire boot menu was purple
[19:39] <hume> anyone knows about amarok, how to connect to a media player?
[19:39] <PROject-Emerald> like the white text saying DELL DIMENSION 2400 SERIES was purple
[19:39] <DarthFrog_> PROject-Emerald: Hmm, definitely sounds like a hardware problem, sorry.
[19:40] <PROject-Emerald> should I try to plug my monitor in to the onboard videocard to check?
[19:40] <DarthFrog_> Couldn't hurt.
[19:40] <PROject-Emerald> Ok
[19:40] <PROject-Emerald> Brb
[19:42] <jessie> human_blip: It's kinda a pain in Amarok 2, atm
[19:42] <failers> hi just installed kubuntu 9.04 and a process called klis3lv02d is constantly using 5% of my cpu what that process?
[19:42] <hume> guess you mean me...
[19:42] <hume> jessie,
[19:42] <hume> jessie, is there a way of doing it at all?
[19:42] <kintoooo> FOr irc QUassel > pidgin
[19:42] <jessie> hume: Yes, there is.
[19:43] <jessie> just a sec
[19:43] <jessie> Okay, be sure you have the "Media Devices" applet added someplace
[19:43] <hume> jessie, what applet is that?
[19:44] <PROject-Emerald> omg
[19:44] <PROject-Emerald> Im so dumb
[19:44] <DarthFrog_> PROject-Emerald: What happened?
[19:44] <jessie> Media Devices. Like, go to the little green plus in the middle-bottom and click that and then click "Media Devices"
[19:44] <PROject-Emerald> my videocard wasn't plugged in all the way
[19:44] <PROject-Emerald> -,-\\
[19:45] <BluesKaj> I've been advised that a kernel module is missing , what dir should I look in ?
[19:45] <DarthFrog_> PROject-Emerald: You've learned something. :-)
[19:45] <hume> jessie, you mean that little applet in the panel that tells me that a new usb device is connected?
[19:45] <jessie> hume, no in Amarok it'self.
[19:45] <PROject-Emerald> Haha I almost cried =[
[19:45] <failers> no one knows what klis3lv02d does?
[19:46] <hume> jessie, where in amarok do I find it?
[19:50] <hume> jessie: back....
[19:50] <hume> jessie: i find no such applet in the Amarok settings...
[19:50] <Peace-> amarok 200 mb of ram lol
[19:51] <Peace-> wtf
[19:52] <rojhilat> hi, everybody
[19:52] <rojhilat> forever kurdistan and israel
[19:55] <jessie> sorry about that, hume
[19:55] <jessie> working
[19:55] <hume> jessie: np, no hurry
[19:56] <jessie> what version of amarok are you using?
[19:56] <jessie> brb again
[19:58] <hume> jessie: amarok 2.0.2
[19:58] <jessie> hume, okay. well, on the bottom of the amarok home screen, there's a little plus
[19:59] <hume> jessie: ok
[19:59] <jessie> hume, click on Media Devices
[20:00] <hume> jessie: ok, left or right?
[20:00] <jessie> left, hume
[20:00] <hume> ok...nothing happens...
[20:01] <kintoooo> hardware drives > isn't offering to install ati drivers. Instead showing "no proprietory drivers are in use" .
[20:01] <kintoooo> I was able to install ati drivers in ubuntu
[20:02] <kintoooo> any help please?
[20:04] <jessie> hume: that's ok
[20:04] <jessie> just a sec again
[20:04] <cutiepie> I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 to upgrade my hardy version (Kubuntu) to jaunty but even after pressing Fetch Updates, version upgrade does not appear
[20:04] <cutiepie> can some one please help me out on same
[20:04] <go7hic> Name	Final Fantasy XI Online
[20:05] <go7hic> Votes  	 404
[20:05] <go7hic> it's scary =)
[20:05] <kintoooo> plz plz?  Im rooted
[20:07] <FRENCH> ?
[20:07] <go7hic> format
[20:08] <jessie> OKAY, BACK FOR GOOD NOW, HOPEFULLY
[20:08] <PROject-Emerald> Lies
[20:08] <jessie> *my bad for the caps
[20:08] <PROject-Emerald> LIES!@!!@@!@!@#!$%$%$6
[20:09] <FRENCH> Anyone?
[20:10] <jessie> FRENCH: do you have ubuntu installed or something?
[20:10] <FRENCH> jessie i have kubuntu
[20:10] <FRENCH> Im rooted need to uninstall and get ubuntu
[20:11] <FRENCH> Pleaz someone help i cant afford to wait around
[20:11] <SubCool> Hey- lil help.
[20:11] <hume> jessie: any ideas on what to do after left clicking on the Media Devices option?
[20:11] <SubCool> sup french- altho i doubt i can help
[20:11] <SubCool> My Stupid Q. - I updated to 9.04.. and lost my network manager.. i cant connect via wifi. wtf?
[20:11] <hamdah> hello, I am new to this, could you tell me how it works? thanks a lot
[20:11] <SubCool> I goto Adept- and it says its installed
[20:13] <jessie> FRENCH: "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop && aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop"
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> jessie: uninstalling kubuntu-desktop will not uninstall kde
[20:13] <FRENCH> kk
[20:13] <FRENCH> Cheers
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> jessie: its a hollow metapackage
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | jessie FRENCH
[20:14] <FRENCH> Look i need to install ubuntu and kubuntu is rooted what should i do?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> FRENCH: why is changing DE so time critical?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> FRENCH: how do you mean "rooted"?
[20:14] <FRENCH> BECAUSE MY MACHINE IS ROOTED
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> !caps | FRENCH
[20:14] <FRENCH> Fuck you
[20:14] <SubCool> pardon his french
[20:15] <jessie> ActionParsnip: Yes, true, but if installed with aptitude, it'll uninstall all packages ... blah blah blah
[20:15]  * SubCool dies
[20:15] <jessie> SubCool: LOL
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> can anyone define rooted for me please, or is he talking in moron as i suspect?
[20:16] <jessie> ActionParsnip: He was root?
[20:16] <kdeuser> should i use aptitude or apt-get?
[20:16] <SubCool> thats what i was getting
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> kdeuser: both are equal
[20:16] <jessie> so HE was rooted, i.e. the processs of becomeing root
[20:17] <SubCool> i thought being rooted meant being ripped out, including the roots
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> s/he's an idiot anyroad
[20:18] <jessie> very impatient too
[20:23] <SubCool> any idea on the wifi manager?
[20:24] <jessie> SubCool: do "iwconfig" and see if your device shows up
[20:25] <SubCool> guess not-
[20:25] <SubCool> lol
[20:25] <SubCool> wait- eth1 has some info..
[20:26] <jessie> SubCool: try something like "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid YOURESSID"
[20:28] <Steenus> hello people, anyone knows why my screen resolution is not saved after reboot (ATI card, kubuntu 9.04).
[20:28] <SubCool> jessie, it just says in ESSID the name now..
[20:28] <SubCool> no ip or anything
[20:28] <SubCool> how do i get the gui to come back up?
[20:28] <jessie> SubCool: that's fine
[20:29] <jessie> SubCool: Okay, well, we know your card's working
[20:29] <jessie> lol
[20:29] <jessie> SubCool: Unlock your widgets
[20:29] <jessie> on kde
[20:29] <SubCool> hey r
[20:30] <jessie> Okay, now add a new widget
[20:30] <jessie> Search for Network. It's the "Network Management" one
[20:31] <SubCool> jessie, i dont have internet to DL it
[20:31] <jessie> SubCool: Ohhhh... haha... then we'll finish connecting you manually
[20:31] <draik> Hello everyone.
[20:31] <jessie> okay, is your network password proteted?
[20:32] <jessie> if so, wep or wpa?
[20:32] <SubCool> it is
[20:32] <SubCool> but we could use the neighbors
[20:32] <jessie> okay, then we'll use theirs. lol
[20:33] <jessie> okay, do the "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid TheirESSID"
[20:33] <SubCool> already on it
[20:33] <SubCool> lol
[20:33] <jessie> Perfect
[20:34] <jessie> and after that do "sudo dhclient eth1"
[20:34] <SubCool> jessie, iwconfig state unassociated
[20:34] <SubCool> iand no IP
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> you can set it permanently in n/etc/network/interfaces
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[20:34] <jessie> ActionParsnip: yeah, you could do that... hmm..... but the state being unassociated is bothering. that means we won't be able to connect. :(
[20:35] <jessie> SubCool: Oh! You misunderstood me earlier, I think
[20:35] <jessie> I don't know..... but I have to go now.....
[20:35] <jessie> :(
[20:35] <jessie> sorry!
[20:39] <Shadowkllr> hey guys, i'm installing kubuntu 8.04 on a friends' computer.  It kept hanging at "Starting up" after I got it installed.  I turned off quiet and the splash and it's saying smp motherboard not detected
[20:40] <alberto_> hello
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Shadowkllr: try some boot options
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Shadowkllr: you may have to disable somethng
[20:41] <alberto_> is there any way to update from kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 (not 9.04)?
[20:42] <alberto_> with kubuntu 9.04 i have a problem with the driver of the graphic card
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Shadowkllr: also read the bottom 5 posts here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9220
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade'
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[20:46] <failers> why is it so hard to get kdevelop to work on kubuntu :/
[20:47] <failers> if i use older kdevelop from repo it just complains no kde libs and much other stuff if i install the kde4 kdevelop from repo i dont get any project templates or anything
[20:49] <mermshaus> Hi. I'm looking for a CD->ISO converter under Kubuntu. Any suggestions?
[20:50] <wizardslovak> my wireless doesnt work
[20:50] <wizardslovak> what should i do?
[20:54] <SubCool> wizardslovak, wire it
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> mermshaus: use dd
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> mermshaus: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/image.iso
[20:54] <mermshaus> ActionParsnip: ah. thx :)
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> no need for a stupid gui
[21:02] <wizardslovak> so how should i fix it??
[21:04] <wizardslovak> hello
[21:04] <wizardslovak> anyone??
[21:11] <wizardslovak> noones here
[21:13] <waltzingalong> seems that way
[21:17] <Guest92562> im trying to get my ip settings in terminal but it say ipconfig is an invalid command
[21:18] <Guest92562> how can i get my ip settings ?
[21:18] <bindaas> ifconfig
[21:19] <wizardslovak> how to enable super user?
[21:19] <wizardslovak> sudo su password?
[21:19] <bindaas> yep
[21:19] <tsimpson> wizardslovak: why do you need to?
[21:19] <wizardslovak> i am used to
[21:19] <bindaas> used to?
[21:19] <wizardslovak> it says unknows ID
[21:19] <tsimpson> you can do "su", but not "sudo" ?
[21:20] <wizardslovak> yes i came from suse linux
[21:20] <wizardslovak> yes i can
[21:20] <tsimpson> there is no need to open security holes because it' what you're used to
[21:20] <wizardslovak> lol
[21:21] <tsimpson> there's nothing su can do that sudo can't
[21:21] <wizardslovak> i know
[21:21] <wizardslovak> but always type sudo
[21:21] <wizardslovak> type su once and do what you wont without typing sudo
[21:21] <tsimpson> sudo -i
[21:21] <tsimpson> done
[21:22] <tsimpson> that gives you a root shell
[21:22] <tsimpson> -> there's nothing su can do that sudo can't
[21:31] <bindaas> it is ok to do sudo su in some situations
[21:35] <Hmail> why is everyone panicking about using the root account? If someone gains access to your account, he/she can simply do a sudo -s to get full root access. And afaik sudo -s (or su) is the same as logging in with the root account.
[21:37] <bindaas> there are situations where you just have to do sudo su ..
[21:37] <Pllo> q mas
[21:37] <Pllo> ne csito ayuda
[21:38] <Hmail> bindaas: I know, and I won't type sudo for everything I do, but why not logging in as root?
[21:38] <Pllo> instale kubunto 8.4 y no me reconoce la targeta de red
[21:38] <Pllo> tengo un portatil acer
[21:38] <Pllo> 5102
[21:38] <bindaas> Hmail: logging in fresh from gdm/kdm ?
[21:39] <fungos> anyone good at xorg.conf here? I have some issues after upgrade 8.10->9.04
[21:39] <Hmail> bindaas: Well, I don't need a gui for root access, but I use it a lot of time on one of the consoles
[21:40] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[21:40] <Hmail> fungos: just drop your question and see if an answer comes up :)
[21:41] <ign0ramus> can someone on jaunty pastebin their "/etc/rc6.d/S90reboot" please?
[21:41] <bindaas> Hmail: there is difference, if i do a gui login ,i will run most applications as superuser that's bad
[21:42] <fungos> I have a nvidia vga with 2 dvi out. The main one is to my monitor. The other, is connected to a TV using a dvi-hdmi cable. The problem is that in 8.10 I had 2 desktops (with the same user logged in at the same time) and now with 9.04 it is 1 desktop that goes from my monitor 19" to my TV 52"...
[21:42] <Hmail> bindaas: Why would that be bad? If you don't trust the application, why do you even have it on your computer?
[21:43] <hax0r> I have a Dell Latitude D830 with 8.10 on it which won't boot, but I have a lot of data on it, I'd like to upgrade/repair to 9.04, please help!
[21:44] <fungos> I already disabled xinerama, and tried some different configs usign nvidia-settings and by hand.. TwinView on/off too. The same xorg.conf from before doesnt work now.
[21:44] <Hmail> I agree on Windows, there is so much you can't see, but especially on Linux, where you can see everything, just only use applications you fully trust
[21:45] <Hmail> hax0r: You can insert the install cd for 9.04, and use the live distribution. From there, you can backup any data you want
[21:46] <tsimpson> bindaas: you *never* need sudo su
[21:46] <hax0r> Hmail: thanks, but I was hoping to do a repair/reinstall/upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and fix it
[21:46] <hax0r> without losing my data
[21:46] <hax0r> or having to do a separate backup/restore operation
[21:46] <ign0ramus> can someone on jaunty pastebin their "/etc/rc6.d/S90reboot" please?
[21:48] <Hmail> ign0ramus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/163115/
[21:48] <ign0ramus> thanks Hmail
[21:49] <bindaas> Hmail: say you have downloaded the software which either intentionally or unintentionally does whatever with system files when you login as root
[21:49] <Hmail> hax0r: I'm not sure what will be overwritten (or removed) if you upgrade to 9.04, so I would recommend to do a backup, but if you trust it, you can simply upgrade. I bet the boot problems will be fixed if you upgrade.
[21:49] <bindaas> tsimpson:there is a case where i am doing it
[21:49] <tsimpson> bindaas: what is that exactly?
[21:50] <samuel> Hello
[21:50] <hax0r> I'm not exactly clear on how to upgrade, I have both the normal and alternate versions burned, I can boot to either one but don't know where to go from there, it looks like it wants to repartition and I don't want to do that
[21:51] <tsimpson> !upgrade
[21:51] <hax0r> ok, I'll go check that out, thanks
[21:51] <bindaas> tsimpson: i have to run a server application which require a port< 1024 ,also i need the environment variables setting done,in that case i need sudo su
[21:52] <tsimpson> bindaas: that doesn't explain why you need sudo su?
[21:52] <tsimpson> do you just want a root account?
[21:52] <tsimpson> or root shell rather
[21:52] <bindaas> yep but i need environment setting of the user Foo
[21:52] <tsimpson> so "sudo -u Foo -i"
[21:52] <Hmail> bindaas: I don't just run software I don't know (and trust), but yeah, if you are just trying out some software, don't do it as root :)
[21:53] <Hmail> tsimpson: what is the difference between that and su Foo?
[21:54] <tsimpson> Hmail: nothing really, except with su you need Foo's password, with sudo you use yours
[21:54] <tsimpson> and sudo su is _always_ superfluous
[21:54] <tsimpson> as it authenticates twice
[21:55] <ubuntu> how do i change resolution in kubuntu?
[21:56] <hax0r> I'm unable to upgrade, I try "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" and I get an error lin 37: /jaunty not found
[21:56] <billytwowilly> Hi, how do I turn off this screen locking thing that started after I upgraded to 9.04?
[21:57] <emegias> hi
[21:58] <hax0r> how can I upgrade/repair a non-bootable 8.10 to 9.04?
[22:00] <wirechief> hax0r: maybe you can chroot into it from a livecd
[22:00] <wirechief> hax0r: and then reinstall the grub
[22:00] <hax0r> OK, thanks, I'll try that
[22:01] <wirechief> hax0r: i think you need at least to bind 4 different folders
[22:02] <hax0r> wirechief: I'm not sure what that means
[22:02] <wirechief> hax0r: well i have a short howto, i can try to paste it to a url for you
[22:02] <hax0r> I would appreciate it!
[22:03] <wirechief> sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/sda5/dev
[22:04] <wirechief> sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/sda5/proc
[22:04] <wirechief> sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sda5/sys
[22:05] <wirechief> sudo chroot /mnt/sda5
[22:05] <wirechief> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/sda
[22:05] <hax0r> actually grub boots
[22:05] <hax0r> I can get to the login screen
[22:05] <hax0r> but when I try to login it craps out
[22:05] <hax0r> and won't go to the desktop
[22:05] <wirechief> hax0r: oh
[22:05] <BluesKaj> !rt2870
[22:05] <wirechief> hax0r: thats different
[22:06] <hax0r> so I got to the login screen and did ctrl-alt-f2
[22:06] <hax0r> and I can log in to the terminal from there
[22:06] <wirechief> ok
[22:06] <hax0r> and I have the 9.04 disk in
[22:06] <hax0r> I need to know what to run to upgrade
[22:06] <hax0r> upgrade/repair
[22:06] <wirechief> hax0r: try to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:06] <hax0r> sweet, doing it now
[22:07] <Master> !flash
[22:07] <wirechief> hax0r: just use the default answers
[22:08] <nadie__> hi
[22:08] <baker_> hi
[22:09] <nadie__> no speak ingles
[22:09] <nadie__> soryy
[22:09] <nadie__> :)
[22:09] <baker_> i know i just say hi
[22:09] <hax0r> wirechief: OK, I did that, went through the menus, rebooting now, gonna see if I can login to desktop
[22:09] <baker_> sorry for that
[22:11] <hax0r> when I try to login it gets to the globe and then freezes
[22:12] <hax0r> no write acccess to '/home/nick/.ICEauthority'
[22:12] <hax0r> KDE is unable to start
[22:12] <krkelly_> i'm not sure if it's proper etiquette to just toss a question out there as i've never been on here before, but...
[22:12] <hax0r> could not start ksmserver. check your installation
[22:13] <krkelly_> i'm trying to connect my phone as a mobile broadband connection in kubuntu
[22:13] <krkelly_> and i haven't had much luck.
[22:13] <wirechief> hax0r: you have to fix the ICE thing
[22:13] <hax0r> how?
[22:14] <wirechief> last time i did used google to find the error
[22:14] <wirechief> i think i have it in a note file , google while i look
[22:14] <hax0r> I should tell you, this crashed because the laptop got dropped, I ran spinrite on it and fixed a bunch, but there is definitely some corruption
[22:14] <hax0r> googling!
[22:15] <wirechief> !google ICEauthority
[22:15] <wirechief> well it works on #kanotix grrrr
[22:15] <bindaas> tsimpson: sorry for delay,what is expected of sudo -u Foo -i ?
[22:16] <hax0r> k, I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136102
[22:16] <hax0r> gonna try that
[22:16] <tsimpson> bindaas: same as "su - Foo"
[22:17] <hax0r> from a failsafe terminal : * " rm .Xauthority "
[22:17] <hax0r> * " rm .ICEauthority "
[22:17] <krkelly_> can anyone give advice on connecting cell phone for mobile broadband connection?
[22:18] <hax0r> krkelly_: I have a tmobile wing, I plugged it in with the mini-usb , turned on internet sharing and voila it just worked like magic
[22:18] <hax0r> turn on internet sharing on the phone, is it a windows mobile phone?
[22:18] <hax0r> what kind of phone/os?
[22:18] <wirechief> hax0r: give that link solution a shot
[22:20] <hax0r> wirechief: ok, I just rm'd those two files and rebooting now, fingers crossed
[22:21] <hax0r> wirechief: voila!!! FIXED, thank you!!!
[22:21] <wirechief> hax0r: ;)
[22:21] <bindaas> tsimpson: aha ok, in my case iam logged in as Foo ,i have a server application that requires port <1024,what i need is root login with the environment setiing of Foo
[22:22] <bindaas> s/setiing/setting
[22:22] <wirechief> hax0r: can we chat in a inquery ?
[22:23] <bindaas> what i am doing is sudo su , then i run that application and in this way i can use the environment settings of Foo
[22:27] <Filthpig> hi all. I installed the kubuntu-desktop on top of my standard gnome ubuntu 9.04 installation, and I kinda like kde 4 more for every time I log on. However, on my computer, an old HP Compaq nx7010, Kwin is really slow and sluggish. I have the same problem with Compiz in gnome, but Metacity is fine - Kwin automatically turns off compositing, but still it's slow and a bit buggy, especially when it comes to the plasmoids.. My computer uses
[22:27] <Filthpig>  Radeon Mobility 9200 card.. Any idea what to do?
[22:31] <Master> i tryed to install a program all it said were "Package ... has no installation candidate" what do i need?
[22:31] <krkelly_> wirechief: do you know how to set up a mobile broadband connection to use your phone as modem to connect to internet?
[22:34] <wirechief> krkelly do you mean using a phone over voip ?
[22:35] <wirechief> krkelly: that voice over internet protocol  commonly used by skype
[22:35] <Filthpig> I think he meant using the phone as a modem for UMTS or HSDPA
[22:35] <Filthpig> (or other mobile internet connections)
[22:37] <krkelly> i'm sorry, i'm going to dumb it down some because i'm a bit of a noob.  please bare with me...
[22:37] <Filthpig> krkelly: all I had to do was to connect my LG phone to the computer and it was up and running as soon as I entered my mobile operator's adress
[22:37] <krkelly> right now i'm on my xp laptop connected to the internet through my mobile phone
[22:37] <wirechief> krkelly: i dont refer to cell phones as modem connected devices
[22:37] <krkelly> sorry...
[22:38] <krkelly> filthpig: what lg phone are you using?
[22:38] <Filthpig> krkelly: kc910 renoir
[22:38] <krkelly> hmm... okay.  i have an env2
[22:38] <wirechief> krkelly: its ok , if you are wireless you can talk over that with programs like skype , it uses the internet
[22:39] <Filthpig> I know the ubuntu team made a great effort for mobile internet adapters for Intrepd (8.10), so most adapters work out-of-the-box :)
[22:39] <krkelly> well i'm familiar with voip, but what i'm really trying to do is connect my mobile phone (via usb) to the machine and then be able to browse the internet
[22:40] <wirechief> krkelly: i dont know why you cant.
[22:40] <wirechief> krkelly: does your provider offer the internet as a service ?
[22:40] <Filthpig> krkelly: just try to boot into your ubuntu of choice and connect your phone via usb and see what happens
[22:41] <Master>  i tryed to install a program all it said were "Package ... has no installation candidate" what do i need?
[22:41] <krkelly> wirechief: yea.
[22:41] <wirechief> krkelly: a phone usually is just a phone unless you subscribe via your phone provider to a internet package
[22:41] <hax0r> yay, I'm upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04!!!
[22:41] <wirechief> krkelly: like verizon , sprint att
[22:42] <krkelly> wirechief: right.  i have the data plan.  i just want to be able to get it running on kubuntu
[22:43] <doc___> hello, I updated my kubuntu from gutsy to jaunty, and now, I can't get konsole and xterm working, any suggestion ¿?¿¿?
[22:43] <Filthpig> krkelly: what happens when you plug it in with ubuntu?
[22:43] <wirechief> krkelly what does lsusb give ? do you see something that relates to your phone device ?
[22:44] <krkelly> i get a notification and icon on the task bar (excuse me if i'm using the wrong terminology)
[22:44] <krkelly> and i can open the connection manager from there
[22:44] <krkelly> from there i think i saw a mobile broadband tab
[22:44] <krkelly> and then i selected cdma
[22:45] <wirechief> krkelly can you do sudo  ifconfig |pastebinit   and paste the url here ?
[22:45] <Dragnslcr> doc___- if it isn't working, something is broken
[22:45] <krkelly> from there i tried to configure as i did in xp on my laptop (that's how i'm connected to the internet right now)  i'm just going off the top of my head here... i'd have to try it again to be sure
[22:46] <doc___> Dragnslcr: yup... but I don't know why... I tried xfce's terminal and it doesn't work too :/
[22:46] <doc___> Dragnslcr: I did an aptitude dist-upgrade... only
[22:46] <krkelly> wirechief: i'm not actually on the kubuntu machine right now
[22:47] <Dragnslcr> !doesntwork | doc___
[22:47] <doc___> ...
[22:47] <Dragnslcr> ubottu is just so much funnier than I am
[22:49] <linux-girl> hi
[22:49] <linux-girl> just installed the 9.04 today
[22:49] <Filthpig> krkelly: I'd just connect the phone to the kubuntu machine and look through the settings one more time. I'm sure it'll work if everything is filled out correctly :)
[22:49] <Filthpig> linux-girl: congrats
[22:50] <wirechief> linux-girl was that a upgrade or your first install ?
[22:50] <linux-girl> i'm wondering why pidgin and firefox won't go in the system tray.
[22:50] <linux-girl> i changed from linux mint 6 kde
[22:50] <Imbert50000001> pidgin usually does
[22:51] <Imbert50000001> but im having some troubles using it with skype 2
[22:51] <linux-girl> i keep accidently closing it out
[22:52] <linux-girl> hmm
[22:52] <linux-girl> i really want to give this a chance
[22:53] <Filthpig> linux-girl: are you sure it's not just some setting in the respective programs that does it?
[22:53] <Imbert50000001> kubuntu?
[22:53] <linux-girl> i don't know Filthpig
[22:54] <linux-girl> and yes Imbert50000001
[22:54] <mackk431> anybody here familiar with tor net?
[22:54] <linux-girl> not me mackk431
[22:54] <Filthpig> linux-girl: I'd look through some settings just to be sure
[22:55] <Imbert50000001> mackk431 mope. u think its worth using it?
[22:55] <linux-girl> where do i look, Filthpig
[22:55] <linux-girl> ?
[22:55] <Filthpig> linux-girl: normally under something like Edit - Preferences in the program
[22:55] <Dragnslcr> I didn't think Firefox minimized to the system tray without an extra extension
[22:55] <mackk431> what you mean with "worth using it" imbert?
[22:56] <linux-girl> wow that was easy
[22:56] <linux-girl> thanks
[22:56] <linux-girl> haha
[22:56] <mackk431> i read some artikles in internet but i am still not sure what tor is
[22:56] <mackk431> articles
[22:56] <Dragnslcr> mackk431- it's for very paranoid people
[22:56] <Filthpig> I know that on Gnome Pidgin is integrated with your username etc, but I don't know how that affects KDE, I'm using KDE for my first full day today myself :)
[22:57] <mackk431> as far as i got into the mater is that it is going to hide your identy
[22:57] <mackk431> matter
[22:57] <mackk431> identity
[22:57] <mackk431> omg my language sucks
[22:57] <Dragnslcr> mackk431- it mostly will, but I wouldn't count on it too much
[22:57] <mackk431> hm
[22:57] <linux-girl> i prefer kde
[22:57] <Dragnslcr> mackk431- it will also be a much slower connection to anything else
[22:57] <Imbert50000001> y, me either @tor
[22:58] <bindaas> tsimpson:thanks for your time !
[22:58] <linux-girl> it has always just been in my sys tray automatically
[22:58] <Imbert50000001> scroogle is worth giving it a try 2
[22:58] <Filthpig> linux-girl: did you find out of it?
[22:58] <linux-girl> i got it
[22:58] <Imbert50000001> if someone wants ur ip and makes the effort to get it, he'll get it