[17:14] <slaffe> [19:14:46]slaffe@scenics:~$ sudo systemctl enable /etc/systemd/system/deluged.service
[17:14] <slaffe> Failed to execute operation: Too many levels of symbolic links
[17:15] <eslam_LinUxer> oK ,ok , ok
[17:15] <nacc> slaffe: why are you passing a path?
[17:15] <slaffe> what?
[17:15] <Alec_> sudo systemctl enable deluged
[17:15] <slaffe> Trying to get deluged to work after it broke due to 16.04 upgrade
[17:15] <nacc> slaffe: can't you just do `sudo systemctl enable deluged` ?
[17:15] <slaffe> [19:14:52]slaffe@scenics:~$ sudo systemctl enable deluged
[17:15] <slaffe> Failed to execute operation: Too many levels of symbolic links
[17:15] <nacc> you probably have broken some things by using that path in the path
[17:16] <nacc> as the path for enable is the unit file, not the /etc/ file
[17:16] <slaffe> neer gotten any other reply than that
[17:16] <slaffe> never*
[17:16] <nacc> slaffe: than what?
[17:17] <slaffe> before upgrade i always used service deluged start
[17:17] <slaffe> and that wont work nomore
[17:17] <Alec_> slaffe: This started when you upgraded?
[17:17] <slaffe> ya, right after
[17:17] <Alec_> From 14.04?
[17:17] <slaffe> ya
[17:17] <Alec_> Haha
[17:17] <eslam_LinUxer> ...
[17:17] <nacc> slaffe: if you go back and forth, you might have messed things up, and i'm guessing now that some symlink is broken in /lib/
[17:17] <Alec_> I would not have updated
[17:17] <slaffe> so removed deluged deluged-webui and reinstalled, now this
[17:17] <nacc> slaffe: give me a few minutes to reproduce
[17:17] <nacc> Alec_: that's not helpful
[17:17] <Alec_> Remove deluge and reinstall
[17:17] <slaffe> Alec_ already done :S
[17:17] <Alec_> I have deluge also :)
[17:18] <Alec_> How did you install
[17:18] <nacc> slaffe: have you filed a bug, btw?
[17:18] <ppf> slaffe: on my system, deluged doesn't ship a systemd unit
[17:18] <ppf> where is this coming from?
[17:18] <Alec_> ppf: exactly what I was getting at
[17:19] <ppf> dpkg -L deluged
[17:19] <johnpaul> hi sir help me how to fix this
[17:19] <johnpaul> This location could not be displayed
[17:19] <slaffe> ppf I read some tutorial somewhere
[17:19] <slaffe> Alec_ just removed it and sudo apt-get install deluged deluged-web
[17:19] <slaffe> webui*
[17:19] <ppf> slaffe: use the one from the repositories
[17:19] <k1l> johnpaul: what program gives you that error?
[17:19] <slaffe> so I did
[17:20] <slaffe> but the systemctl enable thingy is from a tutorial
[17:20] <ppf> johnpaul: not again. your warez disk is broken, get a new one
[17:20] <ioria> slaffe,  http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service/systemd   this ?
[17:20] <Alec_> I think that the systemd script is the problem
[17:20] <slaffe> yes ioria
[17:20] <slaffe> that one
[17:20] <nacc> slaffe: yeah, afaict, there is no systemd unit in the ubuntu package?
[17:20] <johnpaul> aw i use it 1yr only
[17:21] <k1l> johnpaul: ah right. your disk was broken with i/o errors. you cant use that anymore. you need to get a new disk
[17:21] <ioria> slaffe,  and the  'Migration from init.d or Upstart scripts' section, not working ?
[17:21] <slaffe> nope
[17:21] <k1l> johnpaul: time is no matter of hardware failures. some even brake before they leave the factory
[17:21] <eslam_LinUxer> how to run software&updates by sudo ?
[17:21] <johnpaul> how sad
[17:22] <nicomachus> eslam_LinUxer: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:22] <slaffe> guess i'll try to remove it and install it again then
[17:22] <ioria> slaffe,  and the service it's not running ... i guess
[17:22] <ppf> slaffe: won't help
[17:22] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: sudo apt update && sudo apt fullu-upgrade
[17:22] <slaffe> no ioria its not
[17:22] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:22] <ppf> the systemd unit looks alright
[17:22] <ppf> readlink -e /usr/bin/deluged please
[17:22] <nicomachus> k1l: too slow. >:D
[17:22] <slaffe> [19:17:22]slaffe@scenics:~$ readlink -e /usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <slaffe> ...[19:17:22]slaffe@scenics:~$ readlink -e /usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <eslam_LinUxer> i mean this http://3.1m.yt/Hdm3mDI.png
[17:23] <slaffe> ../usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <Alec_> Try /usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: what is the output of "groups" in terminal?
[17:23] <ppf> readlink -e  /etc/systemd/system/deluged.service
[17:24] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : i am not using ubuntu now ...
[17:24] <slaffe> says: /lib/systemd/system/deluged.service
[17:24] <tahir> tahir cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner bluetooth
[17:24] <ppf> yeah, that won't work
[17:24] <tahir> sorry
[17:24] <tahir> i am using debian
[17:24] <ppf> systemd enable doesn't do symlinks
[17:24] <slaffe> aha
[17:25] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: because usually the desktop will ask you for the password when needed there. so you dont run it as sudo manually.
[17:25] <johnpaul> tnx sir k1l
[17:25] <ppf> at least it didn't do until very recently
[17:25] <ppf> so: move that file over to /etc/systemd/system
[17:25] <Alec_> Test that ./usr/bin/deluged works just to be sure
[17:26] <slaffe> done
[17:26] <ppf> Alec_: won't be necessary
[17:26] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : yes ,,,,, there's no ask for password .... how can i solve it ?
[17:26] <ppf> slaffe: systemctl enable deluged works?
[17:26] <slaffe> moved the files to /etc/systemd/system
[17:26] <slaffe> hang on
[17:26] <ppf> fileS?
[17:26] <slaffe> ya, deluged.conf and deluged-webui.conf
[17:27] <ppf> need to catch a train, back in a bit
[17:27] <slaffe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252113/
[17:30] <noirchrome> hoy ppl
[17:30] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: you cant like you think.
[17:30] <slaffe> ppf when you're back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252129/
[17:31] <eslam_LinUxer> what to do ?
[17:31] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: i guess your user is missing some group memberships and therefore you cant change the settings there
[17:31] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: that is why i asked for the output of "groups"
[17:31] <eslam_LinUxer> ok ,, how to can change group ???
[17:31] <eslam_LinUxer> well ,,, theres no root group in my ubuntu ...
[17:32] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: why dont you show us what groups that user is in?
[17:33] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : i am not using ubuntu now ...
[17:33] <eslam_LinUxer> ok i will use it now ,,, any thing else exept group ??
[17:33] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: ok, so we cant solve this issue now
[17:34] <wildc4rd> I run a Ubuntu media server, is there any way to get Netflix working?
[17:34] <noirchrome> does anyone get some strange flickering when seeing the login screen ? ubuntu 16.04 ?
[17:34] <k1l> wildc4rd: netflix should work with chrome
[17:35] <wildc4rd> k1l, when you try to play something, it says it required Silverlight...
[17:36] <k1l> wildc4rd: chrome, not chromium
[17:37] <Alec_> Does anyone have any experience with NIC bonding in 14.04?
[17:38] <akik> wildc4rd: netflix works with firefox too but you need to change the user agent
[17:39] <akik> wildc4rd: i think it was firefox 49.0 which brought the support
[17:42] <wildc4rd> thanks k1l (and akik), chrome did the trick
[17:43] <nacc> slaffe: to be clear, what did you use to do in 14.04 (my lxc is dist-upgrading right now, will ping you when it's done)
[17:43] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l  : groups output http://1.1m.yt/AjZnE57.png
[17:45] <slaffe> nacc what I used my server for?
[17:45] <slaffe> in 14.04?
[17:46] <nacc> slaffe: no, i meant what did you use to manipulate deluged before
[17:46] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: ok. that looks ok. you are in sudo and plugdev
[17:46] <eslam_LinUxer> thank god ...
[17:46] <eslam_LinUxer> what 2 do ,, mister k1l
[17:47] <tahir> how do i enable ssl
[17:47] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: if you set the unknown device to "using processor microcode" can you press apply then?
[17:48] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : no i cant
[17:49] <hustleCrypto> ##learnpython
[17:49] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: dont know whats broken there
[17:49] <eslam_LinUxer> me 2 ,,,
[17:50] <de-facto> tahir you mean ssl here for irc connection? i think you can connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6997 with ssl enabled in your client
[17:50] <de-facto> chat.freenode.net rather
[17:50] <eslam_LinUxer> maybe if i tried 2 press Apply using sudo ,, maybe :\
[17:51] <de-facto> whoaa correction i mean chat.freenode.net on port 6697
[17:52] <nacc> slaffe: so i have no idea what you did, but here's what i did: started up 14.04, `apt install deluged`. dist-upgrade to 16.04. and the result of doing a normal systemctl enable is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252204/
[17:53] <nacc> slaffe: like i said, i don't know why you were passing a path to `systemctl enable` rather than the name of the unit file, but that's almost certainl what broke things
[17:55] <slaffe> nacc i think my server is relaly messed up by this upgrade
[17:55] <slaffe> had everything working great before, after the upgrade, did same as you did
[17:55] <nacc> slaffe: i'm not sure it is or not -- the upgrade went fine and then you seemed to follow a different guide?
[17:55] <slaffe> fail2ban stopped working, owncloud server crashed, deluged wont work and so on
[17:56] <nacc> slaffe: i thought you did `systemctl enable /etc/systemd/....`
[17:56] <Alec_> slaffe: if possible I would consider rolling back
[17:56] <nacc> slaffe: owncloud is no longer apackaged in 16.04
[17:56] <slaffe> running owncloud 9.1 now
[17:57] <nacc> slaffe: from where? built from source?
[17:57] <slaffe> from their repo
[17:57] <nacc> slaffe: you would need to ask them for support, then
[17:57] <nacc> we can only help with ubuntu packages here
[17:57] <slaffe> had to reinstall it, works fine now
[17:57] <slaffe> this i know
[17:57] <ppf> slaffe you've got a typo in that paste?
[17:57] <eslam_LinUxer> any help ..
[17:57] <ppf> is that still pending?
[17:58] <ppf> fwiw: sudo systemctl start deluged
[17:58] <slaffe> ppf i am still at the paste ya
[17:58] <slaffe> start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[17:58] <slaffe> at that stage
[17:58] <ppf> start is an upstart command, not systemctl
[17:58] <slaffe> ahh
[17:59] <ppf> so maybe drop in a systemctl there :)
[17:59] <slaffe> ok, done it
[17:59] <slaffe> [17:59] <slaffe> and so on, same as before
[17:59] <slaffe> Why is this prompting?
[17:59] <ppf> it's asking you for your password
[18:00] <ppf> missing a sudo?
[18:00] <ppf> nacc: systemctl can do paths in enable (at least today, don't know about t he ubuntu version)
[18:00] <slaffe> client started now
[18:00] <eslam_LinUxer> can i run ubuntu by sudo ? i mean all the system ....
[18:00] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: no
[18:01] <ppf> that'll combine systemctl link with systemctl enable on the then-symlinked unit
[18:01] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: and i dont know if a "oneiric" driver is the right one for you
[18:01] <ppf> but it might not be a good idea to do that from the /etc/systemd home :)
[18:01] <ppf> and also won't work with older versions
[18:02] <akik> eslam_LinUxer: i've noticed some systemd commands ask you for the password if you don't use sudo
[18:02] <nacc> ppf: yes, i understand it *can* -- i don't know why you would
[18:02] <eslam_LinUxer> iconfig -a ?
[18:02] <nacc> ppf: and like i just said, i didn't experience any issues upgrading for deluged in a quick test
[18:04] <cagomez> if a command isn't in my path, should this work to add it temporarily? export PATH="/usr/local/gprolog/bin:$PATH"; echo $PATH; gprolog -h
[18:04] <nacc> cagomez: if that's the correct path, yeah
[18:05] <cagomez> nacc: I'm using the python subprocess module like this; print(subp.getoutput('export PATH="/usr/local/gprolog/bin:$PATH"; echo $PATH; gprolog -h'))  ... and it gives...
[18:06] <cagomez> ' /usr/local/gprolog/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/cagomez/venv/bin , then /bin/sh: gprolog: command not found
[18:06] <nacc> cagomez: given you're doing path manipulation, why not just do an absolute apth to gprolog?
[18:07] <slaffe> ppf when i try to connect to the webgui and start the daemon i am getting this in terminal
[18:07] <slaffe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252253/
[18:07] <ppf> slaffe: well the error message is rather clear, isn't it?
[18:08] <slaffe> ya is, but using same config as before
[18:08] <slaffe> so using same pw oO
[18:08] <cagomez> thanks nacc ! doing that instead
[18:08] <ImageJPEG> I've got two quick questions. I've got a Ubuntu laptop setup for a timeclock punch. (Users just log onto a web app and clock in/out). I've got a user just for that purpose on the computer. Is there any way that I can disable all apps execpt for firefox for the timeclock user? Second question would be if there's a way I can disable the use of Firefox safe mode for this user as well. I've got a website blocker addon (blocks all but the web app for the time c
[18:08] <ImageJPEG> lock) and a Kiosk addon to disable menus etc...
[18:09] <slaffe> when loggin on to webui it accepts the password, then when I try to start daemon I get this
[18:11] <slaffe> That is why I dont get the password dont match?
[18:13] <ppf> does the user running the daemon match?
[18:13] <ppf> who's the error coming from?
[18:13] <slaffe> deluge-web runs by user deluge
[18:14] <slaffe> deluged runs by me, although it says deluged in config file
[18:14] <ppf> that's probably wrong?
[18:14] <noirchrome> can anyone give a little hint about ncmpcpp ?
[18:14] <slaffe> wonder why it runs by me when it's supposed to be deluged
[18:14] <slaffe> hmm
[18:14] <ppf> well how did you start it?
[18:16] <slaffe> started both same way, systemctl start deluged and web. web started by user deluge and deluged by me.
[18:16] <ppf> what's in the systemd file?
[18:17] <slaffe> same in both configs
[18:17] <ppf> someone earlier suggested to try and run the program to test it, did you do that?
[18:17] <slaffe> killed the process now and started with sudo -u deluge systemctl start deluged
[18:17] <slaffe> works now
[18:17] <slaffe> probably not the right way though :D
[18:18] <ppf> no, just sudo
[18:18] <slaffe> ok
[18:19] <zteam> Hi all!
[18:19] <ppf> hi
[18:19] <chyno> hi! i have a many times discussed question, but i haven't found any working answer... Is it possible to update nvidia drivers on ubuntu (16.04)? i'm currently using nvidia-340, but i couldn't compile doppia (https://bitbucket.org/rodrigob/doppia) with cuda 6.5, so i was thinking about updating driver to install new cuda 8.0.
[18:20] <zteam> I'm troubleshooting sound problems on Ubuntu, and my friend asks me to try to change sampling rate on my soundcard how can I do that with Ubuntu??
[18:20] <slaffe> thank you for helping a pure beginner in this new world ppl. Most people would tell me to fuck off, my lift my virtual hat and bow.
[18:20] <slaffe> ppf*
[18:21] <ppf> chyno: nvidia.com?
[18:21] <zteam> according to this post it can't even be done
[18:21] <ppf> !sound | zteam
[18:22] <OerHeks> zteam, a codec can, but i think it is not related.
[18:22] <ppf> slaffe: sure thing!
[18:22] <chyno> ppf: i tried downloading driver from nvidia.com, but i wasn't able to install it from virtual console. (with lightdm stopped)
[18:23] <zteam> ppf, that doesn't answere my question at all, isn't there any easy way to solve this?
[18:23] <OerHeks> don't use the drivers from nvidia.com chyno
[18:23] <ppf> chyno: why
[18:23] <OerHeks> use the official driver ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:23] <ppf> OerHeks: if you want cuda8 you need to
[18:24] <zteam> ppf, I need to try other sample rates, I have used Ubuntu for over 10 years
[18:25] <Alec_> I am having some issues setting up a balance-rr (mode 0) bond in 14.04. I am using this bond for a direct connection to my NAS. The two slaves are running and appear to be working. The bond is showing as no link detected however. Any ideas of where to look for the problem? No errors in dmesg.
[18:26] <Alec_> Here is my interface config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252353/
[18:26] <ppf> zteam: try changing the sample rate in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[18:26] <chyno> OerHeks, ppf: i don't exactly need cuda8, but maybe newer than 6.5. idk. i ran the installation first time, it added the nvidia-installer-disable-noveau.conf, restarted it a the same response came, that it can't install drivers with Nouveau in use
[18:27] <ppf> if you don't need cuda then stock drivers will do
[18:27] <OerHeks> chyno, just blacklist nouveau?
[18:28] <ppf> yes, do that
[18:28] <chyno> ppf: i certainly need cuda, but i am not sure which version, browsing through the internet i came to conclusion that it won't compile with cuda6.5
[18:29] <chyno> OerHeks: how? i thought it was done by that conf file
[18:29] <ppf> the 340 driver works with cuda7
[18:30] <chyno> ppf: ok, that sounds good. i'm sorry, but where can i find this cuda and driver's compatibility?
[18:31] <ppf> nvidia 361 is the lates one in the repos i think
[18:32] <nacc> !info nvidia-367
[18:32] <nacc> !info nvidia-367 yakkety
[18:32] <ppf> !info nvidia-361
[18:32] <nacc> ppf: yeah for 16.04
[18:33] <OerHeks> driver ppa got 367 and 370 https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:33] <nacc> OerHeks: nice
[18:35] <DK2> Alec_ why do you define eth0 and eth1 as manual
[18:35] <chyno> OerHeks, ppf: yeah, i use that repo, but when i install nvidia-(fe. 370) than it makes no change in software and updates panel
[18:35] <chyno> *then
[18:36] <Alec_> DK2: what else would they be defined as?
[18:36] <gebruiker> do we really need flash?
[18:36] <DK2> you can comment the config for eth0 and eth1 out i think
[18:36] <chyno> but, i will now try to install cuda7, i really only need to be able to compile doppia
[18:36] <DK2> and put eth0 eth1 in bond-slaves
[18:37] <chyno> ppf, OerHeks : thanks for now
[18:37] <DK2> the configuration you have sucks
[18:37] <Alec_> I thought that was only for mode 4 (ieee)
[18:37] <DK2> did you tried it this way?
[18:37] <Alec_> DK2: why does it suck, it is almost if not identical to the one on the ubuntu website
[18:37] <Alec_> ?
[18:38] <Alec_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[18:38] <mpounta> Hello, is there a specific channel for ubuntu IoT , snappy ubuntu core ? :)
[18:39] <Alec_> I already tried adding them to bond-slaves but I did not remove them from the config. I will try that shortly
[18:39] <shadaloo> can someone tell me what this article refers to when it says
[18:39] <shadaloo> http://tuxthink.blogspot.com/2014/10/can-not-create-syskernelueventhelper.html
[18:39] <shadaloo> Save the .config file and recompile the kernel and boot it. The above error should not occur.
[18:39] <shadaloo> what do they mean recompile the kernel?
[18:39] <nacc> shadaloo: it's referring to rebuilding your kernel
[18:39] <shadaloo> if I installed the kernel from a .deb
[18:39] <DK2> i think even if its working a restarting the network wont get the boding back up
[18:39] <shadaloo> do they mean use dpkg -i again?
[18:39] <nacc> shadaloo: if you don't know, then it's not somethign you should do
[18:39] <DK2> because the ifaces are defined as manual
[18:39] <nacc> shadaloo: no
[18:39] <DK2> and there are no slaves defined in the bond config
[18:40] <nacc> !compile | shadaloo
[18:40] <Keydns> is there a reason i cant use my nickname anymore across two terminals running irssi?
[18:40] <k1l> shadaloo: compiling means making the kernel.deb package again. but this needs some knowledge and some more computing time
[18:40] <shadaloo> nacc: thanks
[18:41] <nacc> shadaloo: i only have the 16.10 .config in front of me, but that option is on now (at least)
[18:41] <shadaloo> nacc: i am actually on linux-mint, but I pulled the .debs from ubuntu archives
[18:42] <Alec_> DK2: So remove the eth1 and eth2 configs and bond-slaves eth1 eth2 to the bond0 config?
[18:42] <Alec_> DK2: So remove the eth1 and eth2 configs and **add** bond-slaves eth1 eth2 to the bond0 config?
[18:42] <slaffe> anyone else havng problem with fail2ban after upgrade to 16.04?
[18:43] <k1l> shadaloo: ouch. mint handles stuff like kernels and module differently. better ask their support about issus
[18:43] <nacc> shadaloo: it's enabled in ubuntu 16.04 too
[18:43] <k1l> !mint | shadaloo
[18:43] <nacc> shadaloo: but !mint is ot here :/
[18:43] <nacc> shadaloo: and i don't think it's recommended to mix distributions like that
[18:44] <gebruiker> guys
[18:44] <DK2> Yeah
[18:44] <gebruiker> I would like the stability of debian stable branch and unity
[18:44] <shadaloo> I read in askubuntu
[18:44] <DK2> i have one working config
[18:44] <DK2> sec
[18:44] <shadaloo> the fix to run 4.7 kernels is as simple as this one config line
[18:44] <nacc> shadaloo: running mainline kerenls is also offtopic here
[18:45] <shadaloo> okay
[18:45] <shadaloo> lol
[18:45] <shadaloo> walled gardens
[18:45] <nacc> umm
[18:45] <Alec_> DK2: config updated, rebooting
[18:45] <nacc> shadaloo: that's not what we're saying by any means
[18:45] <nacc> shadaloo: you should read where that reference comes from to understand
[18:46] <shadaloo> nacc: why don't you just tell me
[18:46] <nacc> shadaloo: this is the *ubuntu* support channel. You are on mint, which is not supported here, asking about kernels that are not supported on any version of Ubuntu.
[18:46] <k1l> shadaloo: you run a system that handles kernels, modules and updates differently. so please ask the mint guys for help on your issue
[18:46] <zteam> pfoo, you don't happen to know a GUI or something for this stuff?
[18:46] <vanshita> hey
[18:46] <ppf> zteam: drivers don't usually come with a gui
[18:46] <chyno> ppf, OerHeks : please, i haven't found any package for ubuntu16 on their website (https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-toolkit-70), neither they are in official repo
[18:47] <slaffe> this is the output from fail2ban after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252428/
[18:47] <ppf> chyno: i've used the 14.X version successfully
[18:48] <Alec_> DK2: It did not work. Be back shortly.
[18:48] <chyno> ppf: ok
[18:48] <ppf> just give it a try, can't break much :)
[18:49] <zteam> ppf, I can agree on that, but on Windows you do have a gui for that provided with the drivers CD, maybe that's not the case in Ubuntu, but having to spend time on reading on different sample rates withot knowing which one to use just feels hopeless
[18:49] <ppf> are you certain that that's really what you need to do?
[18:50] <nacc> ppf: did you have local configurations before?
[18:50] <ppf> nacc: local configurations of what?
[18:50] <nacc> ppf: of fail2ban
[18:50] <nacc> ppf: modified from what ubuntu shipped in 14.04
[18:51] <ppf> nacc: i think you mean slaffe
[18:51] <nacc> ppf: urgh, sorry!
[18:51] <ppf> no worries
[18:51] <slaffe> nacc ya I had my jail.local
[18:51] <nacc> slaffe: did you have local modifications to fail2ban
[18:51] <DK2> Alec_ weird, do you have ifenslave installed?
[18:52] <slaffe> What do you mean by local modifications? I did not use jail.conf, only jail.local
[18:53] <nacc> slaffe: any changes in /etc/fail2ban
[18:53] <nacc> slaffe: there is LP: #1584315
[18:54] <slaffe> i will check
[18:54] <zteam> ppf, if you talking to me, no, not at all, but that is one of the things my friend adviced me to do
[18:55] <ppf> what's the actual problem you're trying to solve
[18:56] <slaffe> nacc I do not have any files ending with .dpkg-dist
[18:56] <erasmus> I need to vent ubuntu sucks
[18:56] <nacc> !ot | erasmus
[18:56] <erasmus> I wasn't asking for help nacc
[18:56] <nacc> erasmus: you're offtopic
[18:56] <ppf> erasmus: #fedora will listen happily!
[18:57] <erasmus> how is what I said offtopic?
[18:57] <erasmus> ppf pfft =)
[18:57] <nacc> erasmus: this is the support channel, not the random complaint channel (or vent channel)
[18:57] <erasmus> ok irc toughguy you are right.
[18:58] <zteam> ppf, I'm experiencing sound clips and noise with my freshly built machine
[18:58] <nacc> slaffe: it seems like possibly some actiosn have been renamed, can you pastebin your conf?
[18:58] <zteam> ppf, if you talking to me please write my nickname
[19:00] <ppf> zteam: will do. afraid i don't have much knowledge in that area
[19:01] <slaffe> nacc here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252471/
[19:03] <Alec_> DK2: I'm back
[19:03] <DK2> b
[19:03] <DK2> wb
[19:03] <Alec_> So it doesn't look like it bonded eth1 and eth2
[19:03] <DK2> do you have ifenslave installed? configured the bonding module?
[19:03] <DK2> what does it say?
[19:03] <Alec_> Yes to both.
[19:04] <Alec_> dmesg | grep "bond0" - [    6.179680] bond0: Setting MII monitoring interval to 100
[19:04] <Alec_> That is all
[19:05] <Slugdude> So, I have two graphics cards in my system, an RX 470 and a 9400GT (big contrast) and I want the 470 to drive one display, for gaming on, and the 9400GT to run the other display, for web browsing etc. I have AMDGPU-PRO installed and working on the 470, and nouveau installed for the 9400GT, but on the screen the 9400GT is connected to all I get is a blank screen. It doesn't show up in system settings -> screen display. Anyone know ho
[19:05] <DK2> what does ip a say?
[19:05] <Slugdude> Also, both cards are in lspci
[19:06] <Alec_> ip?
[19:06] <chyno> ppf: currently downloading cuda7 .deb... but i found an answer on SO (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30820513/what-is-version-of-cuda-for-nvidia-304-125), that i won't be compatible with nvidia-340 (currently installed)... where do you search for compatibility table between cuda and drivers? google is no help
[19:06] <DK2> the output of "ip a"
[19:06] <ppf> chyno: install the latest drivers from the repo
[19:06] <ppf> stock drivers are fresh enough
[19:07] <DK2> or cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0
[19:07] <Alec_> bond0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,MASTER,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000
[19:07] <Alec_> cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0
[19:07] <Alec_> MII Status: down
[19:07] <Alec_> sudo ethtool bond0 -> Link detected: no
[19:08] <Alec_> sudo ethtool eth1 -> Link detected: yes
[19:08] <Alec_> sudo ethtool eth2 -> Link detected: yes
[19:08] <nicomachus> !paste | Alec_
[19:08] <Slugdude> OK, what? I hit suspend by mistake (both monitors switch off) and then when I resumed, the screen connected to the 9400GT turned white.
[19:08] <DK2> hats weird
[19:09] <Alec_> DK2: I know....
[19:09] <DK2> what kind of server is it?
[19:09] <Alec_> FYI it is a USB 3.0 dual NIC adapter
[19:10] <DK2> maybe driver issues?
[19:10] <chyno> ppf: you mean this repo? http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu
[19:10] <Alec_> Intel NUC, so only one NIC (eth0). eth1 and eth2 are the adapter.
[19:10] <Alec_> DK2: maybe, but the interfaces didn't work and then I installed the driver and now they interfaces work. Just the bond doesn't.
[19:10] <Slugdude> After a reboot, now the 9400GT's screen has the five Ubuntu loading dots but everything else is black
[19:11] <slaffe> nacc did you find anything strange?
[19:11] <thrawn_new> Hi, im a bit of a newbie to linux and ubuntu collectively and was wondering if someone could help me setup Steam
[19:11] <ppf> chyno: no, the ubuntu xenial repos
[19:11] <glitchd> thrawn_new, sure
[19:11] <ppf> (you are on xenial, right?)
[19:11] <glitchd> thrawn_new, its not hard, what version linux are you running?
[19:11] <nicomachus> thrawn_new: not much to it. Just install it from Software Manager or from terminal with "sudo apt-get install steam"
[19:11] <nacc> slaffe: so i'm 99% sure you're just hitting an incompatiblity on upgrade. Not syaing ti should happen, but your local config is probably meant to be used with 14.04 only. So you'll need to look at what's in the package-managed config (jail.conf) and compare to what's in jail.local
[19:11] <thrawn_new> im on 16.04 ubuntu
[19:11] <nacc> slaffe: the upstream changelog on 0.9.x says they refactored the configuration significantly
[19:12] <glitchd> thrawn_new, you can either install it from command line, the software center, or download the .deb file directly from the steam website
[19:12] <Slugdude> thrawn_new: Use the steam from steam's website, if I recall correctly the one in Ubuntu's repos (on the Ubuntu software store) is outdated.
[19:12] <slaffe> hmm, ok. i'll have to compare them configs and see what is causing this then.
[19:12] <slaffe> Thanks alot nacc
[19:13] <glitchd> thrawn_new, yes the one in the software center is exrememly outdated, Slugdude is correct
[19:13] <nicomachus> it's not *that* out of date
[19:13] <glitchd> thrawn_new, your best bet is to download the .deb file from the steam website
[19:13] <glitchd> nicomachus, its enough outdated to be a bed idea to install
[19:13] <ppf> it's also self-updating
[19:13] <DK2> Alec_ the configuration is definately fine now, the problem must be something else
[19:13] <thrawn_new> Oh thank you guys
[19:13] <thrawn_new> I tried so hard last night to do it and couldn't
[19:14] <nicomachus> ppf is correct. you can install from the repos and then the client will prompt to update when you first open it.
[19:14] <glitchd> thrawn_new, do you need a link to the download?
[19:14] <cagomez> I'm passing command line arguments via subp but the process never quits. like so: ('/usr/local/bin/gprolog --consult-file maze.pl --query-goal "findPath(0,0,4,5,Path), !, write(Path)"') . If I enter CTRL-D in the terminal, the process executes the command line args and returns. Any ideas?
[19:14] <Slugdude> thrawn_new, once you have the .deb file you can install it the easy way by double clicking it, or use the terminal sudo dpkg -i pathto/fileYouDownloaded.deb
[19:14] <cagomez> ^(python subp module)
[19:14] <Slugdude> After that it's pretty much the same as Windows.
[19:14] <nacc> cagomez: you may want to ask in a more python-oriented channel
[19:14] <glitchd> cagomez, *sudo
[19:15] <thrawn_new> I was almost afraid to ask for help b/c im such a newbie
[19:15] <Slugdude> We don't bite :)
[19:15] <nicomachus> thrawn_new: we all start somewhere.
[19:15]  * nicomachus bites Slugdude
[19:15] <Slugdude> Wow
[19:15] <Slugdude> Apparently we do
[19:15] <michel_> i sterted yesterday
[19:16] <Slugdude> michel_: biting people?
[19:16] <michel_> i dont bite
[19:16] <Alec_> DK2: I ordered another USB 3.0 to dual gigabit adapter. Should be in tomorrow. I will try the new one. But the individual NICs are working fine so I highly doubt that the adapter the problem.
[19:16] <michel_> when im sober
[19:16] <Alec_> Anything else you can think of causing the issue?
[19:16] <chyno> ppf: yes, xenial. i'll try to reboot. hope to get back )
[19:16] <Slugdude> Anyway, anyone hee interested in helping me with my problem?
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, whats your problem?
[19:17] <Slugdude> *sigh* it's rather long, I did say it already
[19:17] <Slugdude> Or did you just join glitchd?
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, i just got here and the scrollback is not available to me..
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, yes
[19:17] <nicomachus> glitchd: he has 2 GPUs, one on one screen another on another. one works the other doesn't.
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, just give me the cliff notes version
[19:17] <Slugdude> OK, one second.
[19:18] <michel_> mouse
[19:18] <glitchd> Slugdude, its already been explained..
[19:18] <DK2> well whats the configuration of /etc/modprobe/bonding.conf?
[19:19] <glitchd> Slugdude, are the 2 gpus the same?
[19:19] <Alec_> That file does not exist. I think it was removed in 14.04.
[19:19] <nacc> slaffe: glitchd: i would look for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:19] <Slugdude> I have two GPUs, RX 470 and 9400GT, I want dual monitor, one for gaming on the other for web browsing. The one connected to the 9400Gt is displaying the five Ubuntu dots but nothing else but the RX 470 works completely. I have AMDGPU-PRO for the 470 and nouveau for the 9400GT
[19:19] <thrawn_new> WOuld it be possible to dl Teamspeak on ubuntu 16.04?
[19:19] <Slugdude> @glitchd No
[19:19] <DK2> i do still configure my bondings with the bonding.conf tho
[19:20] <DK2> create it then
[19:20] <Alec_> DK2: DO you have an example config?
[19:20] <Slugdude> thrawn_new: as far as I know, yes, but I haven't tried it myself.
[19:21] <thrawn_new> sudo apt-get install teamspeak?
[19:21] <DK2> ~try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252528/
[19:21] <k1l> !find teamspeak
[19:22] <DK2> then load with with "modprobe bonding"
[19:22] <Slugdude> I don't think it's in the repositories
[19:22] <k1l> thrawn_new: afaik its prop. and you need to load it from their website
[19:22] <thrawn_new> seems they have native support for linux. dl'ing from their site
[19:23] <thrawn_new> Im trying to get where i can abandon windows
[19:23] <Alec_> DK2: Should it be in modprobe.d?
[19:23] <Slugdude> I ditched Windows about five years ago @thrawn_new
[19:24] <thrawn_new> nice
[19:24] <Slugdude> Never looked back
[19:24] <DK2> create the file in the modprobe.d directory, yes
[19:24] <joe__> Hey all, slowly converting from mac(main)/Windows(for cwertain things) to Ubuntu.  Alowly making progress!
[19:25] <glitchd> if you ever end up needing windows, you can always install it in a vm and use it that way
[19:25] <joe__> I have a question about using spaces.
[19:25] <Slugdude>
[19:25] <Slugdude> Like that ^ ?
[19:25] <Thrawn> Yeah ive played with that before but i'd rather just be able to do everything in Ubuntu
[19:25] <Thrawn> Especially since you guys and gals are so nice about helping a new person out like me
[19:26] <Alec_> DK2: Nothing happened, should I take down the interfaces?
[19:26] <DK2> yes, reload the network
[19:26] <joe__> ON the mac, I can assign certain software to open in a certain "space".   Each time I reboot or start up my computer, I need to move my programs around to the right windows.    Anyone seen a way to assign programs to a certain space?
[19:26] <glitchd> Thrawn, well sometimes you just have to use windows, as good as linux is, not every windows program works and cooperates in linux
[19:26] <Slugdude> One thing I hated about Windows was how toxic the community can be. We're generally pretty friendly on this corner of the tubes @thrawn
[19:27] <glitchd> yes and yes^^
[19:27] <Thrawn> Yeah i installed 16.04 alongside my windows 10
[19:27] <Slugdude> I should have said "On this side of the POSIX specification"
[19:27] <Slugdude> Lol
[19:27] <Thrawn> I just allocated most of my hard drive to linux
[19:28] <Alec_> DK2: Link is still down
[19:28] <Slugdude> So glitchd, any insights into my dual-GPU dual-monitor situation?
[19:29] <Slugdude> Please don't say I have to do xorg conf...
[19:30] <glitchd> Slugdude, sry i got sidetracked immediatly but im looking for info on the subject
[19:30] <Slugdude> Glitchd, OK thanks
[19:31] <DK2> well im kinda out of ideas
[19:31] <glitchd> Slugdude, np
[19:31] <glitchd> Slugdude, btw what kind of gpus are they?
[19:32] <Slugdude> RX 470 (AMD, primary) and 9400GT (Nvidia, secondary, stop judging me)
[19:32] <Thrawn> so i have the teamspeak 64 bit file download but its not an exe file. i made it executable but now when i try to install, i get the error that there is no file
[19:33] <bekks> Thrawn: whats the filename you downloaded?
[19:33] <pjfl_pt> hi all
[19:34] <Thrawn> TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-<IP_ADDRESS>.run
[19:34] <glitchd> Slugdude, no judging in here=)
[19:34] <bekks> Thrawn: So how are you trying to execute it then?
[19:34] <Thrawn> was using a terminal after making it executable
[19:34] <Alec_> DK2: Thanks for helping. It is the craziest thing. Hopefully the new adapter will work.
[19:34] <Slugdude> glitchd: relevant: https://xkcd.com/963/
[19:34] <pjfl_pt> I have a problem on my ubuntu server. I have update to the last software versins and after update i can not send curl requests
[19:35] <glitchd> Slugdude, is one an onboard gpu and the other is a physical video card?
[19:35] <bekks> Thrawn: What did you do? Staring at the terminal and executing by the power of your mind? :)
[19:35] <Slugdude> No, both dedicated @glitchd
[19:35] <Alec_> I did have it working at one point but then I restarted and it hasn't worked since.
[19:35] <Denommus> is there a place where I can ask packaging-related doubts?
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> if I execue the command curl -x GET "http://google.com"
[19:35] <glitchd> Slugdude, ok then
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> i get the response
[19:35] <glitchd> Slugdude, funny pic btw
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> can anyone help or have similar problem
[19:35] <Thrawn> ./Teamspeak3-Client-linux_amd64-<IP_ADDRESS>.run
[19:36] <Slugdude> Glitchd: don't praise me, it's not mine
[19:36] <bekks> Thrawn: and whats the output of that?
[19:36] <Thrawn> bash: no file or folder found
[19:36] <zark> hello girls do you know a good solution like virtual box on ubuntu ?
[19:36] <bekks> zark: You just named the solution. :))
[19:36] <tgm4883> zak_: have you tried virtualbox?
[19:37] <Slugdude> Yes, zark, it's called virtualbox
[19:37] <glitchd> Slugdude,  im not finding any relevant info on this matter
[19:37] <zark> oOOhh sorry buddies i m a bit drunk
[19:37] <zark> :))
[19:37] <zark> thanjs guys
[19:37] <Slugdude> glitchd: neither am I, which is why I'm here. Pretty sure it's possible though.
[19:38] <ioria> Slugdude, if you boot in text mode and it's all ok for both screens , the issue is X... you 'll probably need a xorg.conf
[19:38] <glitchd> Slugdude, unfortunately, i am of no help on this matter, sry bud
[19:38] <baxt> Ok so just came in what's the issue?
[19:39] <Slugdude> glitchd: when I power down, the power down screen with the Ubuntu logo sometimes shows on both displays.
[19:39] <pjfl_pt> anyone with this response when run curl request on ubuntu server
[19:39] <pjfl_pt> curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:39] <Slugdude> Usually does*
[19:39] <glitchd> Slugdude, is each display hooked up to a different card?
[19:40] <Slugdude> yes, glitchd.
[19:40] <glitchd> Slugdude, it sounds like its using them bother then
[19:40] <glitchd> both*
[19:40] <baxt> I would start by swiping them over, then setting to only use one then only use the other.
[19:41] <glitchd> good advice^^
[19:43] <Slugdude> glitchd: here's what it looks like: http://imgur.com/R2Oa0ML
[19:44] <pjfl_pt> curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:44] <pjfl_pt> anyone with this error
[19:44] <glitchd> Slugdude, login the bring up the run dialog and paste this in "xfce4-display-settings --minimal"
[19:44] <glitchd> Slugdude, without the quotes
[19:44] <Slugdude> The second monitor (9400GT) doesn't show up in xrandr -q or system settings
[19:44] <glitchd> Slugdude, see if there are any optiouns to turn the other display on
[19:44] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: you'll need to give more details than that. You're getting a connection refused, but without knowing what you are trying to curl nobody can help you
[19:45] <grumpy> HI
[19:45] <Alec_> Hello
[19:45] <Thrawn> okay i got the file i download to create the installation files but when i got to execute the installer and double click on it nothing happens. Any advice?
[19:45] <Thrawn> This is for TS 3 64 bit
[19:45] <Slugdude> I already did, there aren't. Only one display is listed in xrandr -q and system settings @glitchd
[19:45] <pjfl_pt> tgm4883> I am just send a normal curl request from the console
[19:45] <Slugdude> Also to clarify both cards are in lspci
[19:46] <pjfl_pt> curl -X GET "http:\\google.com"
[19:46] <Slugdude> Preeetty sure URLs use http:// pjfl_pt
[19:46] <Slugdude> Not \
[19:46] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: you need // not \\
[19:46] <pjfl_pt> yes thats correct
[19:47] <pjfl_pt> but thats not the error
[19:47] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: that also isn't the command you are using to get that error
[19:47] <glitchd> Slugdude, this may be above my paygrade..sry bud..
[19:47] <pjfl_pt> root@pjflopes:~# curl -x GET "https://google.com"
[19:47] <pjfl_pt> curl: (5) Could not resolve proxy: GET
[19:48] <OerHeks> curl & https, always fun
[19:48] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: that's not the error you posted above...
[19:48] <pjfl_pt> and if I change to http i get the error curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:48] <Slugdude> Np glitchd
[19:48] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: disable your proxy?
[19:48] <OerHeks> there is no http://www.google.com anymore, https only.
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> pjfl_pt  maybe it's the target that causes the error ... what's the exact file you're trying to download?
[19:49] <pjfl_pt> yes but the http always redirect to the https
[19:49] <OerHeks> pjfl_pt, good you found out
[19:50] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: sounds like your computer is trying to proxy your curl through some proxy
[19:50] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: sounds like your computer is trying to proxy your curl through some proxy
[19:51] <OerHeks> why does curl not work on https ? certificate ..
[19:51] <Alec_> I have the same curl error
[19:51] <glitchd> Slugdude,  you should also check if there are any additional drivers that can be activated
[19:51] <glitchd> Slugdude, System Settings -> Additional Drivers.
[19:52] <Alec_> -x is the same as --proxy
[19:52] <summerrain> i connected an external mouse to my notebook with ubuntu but its not working
[19:52] <summerrain> what should i do
[19:52] <Alec_> man curl
[19:52] <ioria> i think he wanted X not x
[19:52] <summerrain> what should i do ?
[19:52] <Slugdude> Glitchd: the only thing is switching from nouveau on the 9400GT to nvidia 340 which doesn't help at all.
[19:53] <OerHeks> pjfl_pt, try curl -k https://www.google.com
[19:53] <Alec_> OerHeks: He is gone
[19:53] <Alec_> Peace!
[19:53] <glitchd> Slugdude, maybe a reboot or a logout/login is required to activate it?
[19:54] <glitchd> Slugdude, after you select it i mean
[19:54] <tgm4883> ugh, this is why we want users to copy and paste the commands they are using...
[19:54] <Thrawn> thrawn@thrawn-GA-78LMT-S2:~/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64$ ts3client_runscript.sh
[19:54] <Thrawn> ts3client_runscript.sh: command not found
[19:54] <Thrawn> Help?
[19:55] <pavlos> script not executable
[19:55] <glitchd> Thrawn, navigate to the folder manually in terminal
[19:55] <Thrawn> okay
[19:55] <munta> Thrawn: chmod +x <file>
[19:56] <Rarrikins> Thrawn: ./whatever
[19:56] <glitchd> Thrawn, then try to use it, and do what that guy said ^^
[19:56] <munta> glitchd: :)
[19:56] <chyno> ppf: so i installed nvidia-361 after rebooting, there was an error http://pasteboard.co/92H2AfKUs.png  (not sure if relevant), but i'm not sure how to check if the installation was ok. when i change in nvidia-settings from intel to nvidia driver, it show a message that i should relog, but after relogging there is still the same intel driver selected
[19:57] <glitchd> munta, ..?
[19:58] <baxt> Ok guys go to the 4. Kernel info on kernel.org
[19:58] <baxt> Read the blerb. This might have answars for you.
[19:58] <munta> glitchd: sorry wrong person ...
[19:58] <glitchd> munta, lol np
[19:59] <munta> lol
[19:59] <ppf> chyno: lsmod | grep nvidia
[19:59] <OerHeks> baxt, bad kernel, don't use it.
[19:59] <ppf> but sounds like it wasn't successfully install
[19:59] <john_doe_jr> I would like to use aws to backup a remote computer but use the aws binary that is installed on 1 computer instead of installing the aws on every computer on my network…is that possible?
[19:59] <ppf> ed
[19:59] <Slugdude> Glitchd: I did reboot when I tried it
[19:59] <ppf> chyno: which compiler do you have installed?
[19:59] <chyno> ppf: no output
[19:59] <OerHeks> baxt, you will find out soon .. use the kernel from mainline, build for ubuntu
[20:00] <ppf> chyno: no output?
[20:01] <glitchd> Slugdude, ...so did it work, or not?
[20:01] <chyno> ppf: yes, no output... i actually installed gcc 4.8.5 because of doppia incompatibility issue (or old cuda, not sure)
[20:01] <ppf> chyno: no output on what?
[20:01] <chyno> lsmod | grep nvidia
[20:01] <ppf> -fstack-protector-strong is a feature thats in later gccs
[20:01] <ppf> go and grab a gcc5
[20:02] <Slugdude> Glitchd: no, it didn't.
[20:02] <ppf> (the dkms error you posted complained about that)
[20:02] <glitchd> what error message did it give?
[20:02] <ppf> install gcc5 and then reinstall the package
[20:03] <chyno> i only need to relink /usr/bin/gcc to gcc5, am i right? (sorry for dumb questions, i just want to be sure)
[20:03] <glitchd> Slugdude, sry bud, i confused you with another user...i still have no idea to get your 2 displays to work correctly
[20:04] <ppf> is it installed yest?
[20:04] <chyno> yes
[20:05] <Thrawn> ~/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-CLient-linux_amd64/ts3client_linux_amd64 ch mod +x
[20:05] <chyno> but /usr/bin/gcc and /usr/bin/g++ point to v4.8
[20:05] <Thrawn> bash: /home/thrawn/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-CLient-linux_amd64/ts3client_linux_amd64: No such file or directory
[20:05] <ppf> yeah, then resymlink it
[20:05] <Thrawn> still cant get this teamspeak to install
[20:05] <Thrawn> Please help
[20:05] <Gaming4LifeDE> hi. so i have a pc with an nvidia ethernet adapter on it and i can't connect. any ideas?
[20:06] <glitchd> Thrawn, the command would be chmod +x ts3lcient_linux_amd64
[20:06] <chyno> ppf: ok
[20:07] <glitchd> Thrawn, chmod is one word
[20:07] <chyno> ppf: should i reinstall the nvidia driver?
[20:07] <tomas__> clear
[20:07] <ppf> chyno: yes
[20:09] <Thrawn> @glitchd i have the exe file set to be executable via the properties option.  Im new to linux so i don't know how to get the install started
[20:11] <meisth0th> hello
[20:11] <ppf> open a terminal
[20:11] <glitchd> Thrawn, inside the teamspeak folder, "./TeamSpeak3-Client-linux"
[20:12] <ppf> enter /home/thrawn/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64
[20:12] <glitchd> Thrawn, check you pm's
[20:12] <meisth0th> i've just installed 16.04 lts on my server, trying to get libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3 working. the latest version on repo is 4.3.0, but i am hitting a bug that is fixed on 4.5.2. is there a way to install 4.5.2?
[20:12] <john_doe_jr> what does the dash mean in the following command: "tar -cf - /path/to/backup/dir" ?
[20:13] <meisth0th> i don't want to compile the module myself
[20:13] <ppf> stdout
[20:13] <ppf> @john_doe_jr
[20:14] <meisth0th> anybody? :(
[20:14] <nacc> meisth0th: file a bug? note that debian has 4.5.7 only in unstable
[20:15] <meisth0th> nacc: this is a server i need to get working in like 5 hours. so, for now, i am on search of a workaround.
[20:15] <meisth0th> a ppa or sth
[20:23] <Justme__> can anyone help me with updating from 14.04 to 16.04?
[20:23] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Justme__
[20:23] <glitchd> Justme__, insert disc, install.
[20:24] <grumpy>  i am having a sound issue when i start pepermintos 7 its not reconizing then hdmi sound i have to unplug and replug the hdmi to get sound
[20:24] <mist_> heya fellas i've come across a problem. my boot partition is full and i'm not able to use apt-get purge
[20:25] <k1l> mist remove the old kernel package with dpkg
[20:27] <elisa87> please have a look at my question http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39779363/i-tensorflow-core-common-runtime-gpu-gpu-init-cc81-no-gpu-devices-available-on
[20:28] <afiefh> How can I upgrade from 16.04.1 to 16.10? `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` says that no new release was found
[20:28] <tgm4883> afiefh: that's a dev release
[20:28] <mist_> k1l: http://pastebin.com/4c2ChXpc
[20:29] <afiefh> tgm4883: I am aware of that, been testing them since 2006 but for some reason the upgrade manager seems to be unable to find it this time, even using the "-d" flag which is supposed to fetch the devel release
[20:31] <OerHeks> elisa87, this page mentions 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-modprobe' https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/394
[20:31] <k1l> mist_: try with --force-depends
[20:33] <elisa87> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/Fu5qvm5Z
[20:33] <OerHeks> Then i have no clue, could be gcc version, library path,..
[20:33] <elisa87> mona@pascal:~$ modinfo nvidia
[20:33] <elisa87> modinfo: ERROR: Module nvidia not found. OerHeks
[20:34] <ppf> elisa87: forgot to install the gpu drivers?
[20:34] <mist_> thank you k1l, i removed a few manually and let autoremove get rid of the rest
[20:35] <k1l> mist_: yep. just get enough space to get apt working, then use apt to get rid of the old kernels
[20:35] <tgm4883> afiefh: sorry in a meeting. Is your system set to LTS only?
[20:36] <elisa87> ppf: I did install
[20:36] <k1l> afiefh: make sure your release prompt is not set to LTS.
[20:37] <afiefh> tgm4883, k1l: Thanks, it was set for LTS only without me realizing
[20:37] <k1l> afiefh: afaik, that is the standard on lts
[20:38] <chyno> ppf: thanks! nvidia driver is now running, i would like to know whether cuda8 is compatible with my installation (nvidia-361)?
[20:38] <chyno> ppf: i will try to install cuda7 with runfile installer
[20:38] <afiefh> k1l:  funny... I thought I had this system for a few years without a fresh install... must have done a fresh install at some point without realizing it
[20:39] <k1l> afiefh: no, iirc that is reset if you upgrade to a LTS
[20:39] <chyno> ppf: but when i tried install it via deb (local/network) there was no success
[20:39] <afiefh> k1l: oh that explains it
[20:40] <ppf> chyno: why
[20:42] <elisa87> why do I keep receiving this error "E: Failed to fetch http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1404/x86_64/./nvidia-modprobe_352.99-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: Size mismatch" when using this command? sudo aptitude install cuda
[20:42] <chyno> ppf: deb+network will not add anything to sources.list.d or sources.list
[20:44] <Eightynine> What should I install? Xubuntu or Ubuntu GNOME? I'm using a quad core AMD processor, 4 GB RAM and Radeon HD6750
[20:44] <ppf> chyno: okay
[20:44] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Try `sudo apt update`, then retry.
[20:45] <ppf> Eightynine: whichever you like better? that machine is capable of either
[20:45] <Eightynine> I don't know. I need a handy system. XFCE is more simple and GNOME is unusable without Tweak Tool.
[20:46] <elisa87> Rarrikins: I get these errors when I run sudo apt-get update
[20:46] <elisa87> http://pastebin.com/GauqUUBd Rarrikins
[20:46] <chyno> ppf: ok, i'm bit confused
[20:46] <k1l> Eightynine: its your choice. if you are not sure you can install both desktops and test it when switching on the login screen
[20:48] <Eightynine> I'm currently using XFCE on OpenSUSE and when scrolling mouse wheel system is switching desktops and can hide windows and only window titles remain. Does it work like this on Xubuntu? I don't need this.
[20:49] <elisa87> how should I fix this error? W: GPG error: http://developer.download.nvidia.com  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F60F4B3D7FA2AF80
[20:50] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Try ``wget -q -O - http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/GPGKEY | apt-key add -`
[20:50] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Sorry, with sudo.
[20:50] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Run `sudo -i`, then that.
[20:51] <Eightynine> Do you know when will be next XFCE release?
[20:51] <elisa87> Rarrikins: didn't fix. still get this error mona@pascal:~$ wget -q -O - http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/GPGKEY | sudo apt-key add - OK
[20:51] <[Gort]> Eightynine, that's configurable in Xfce's settings. You need to find Settings and then look for window management and desktop. I haven't used Xfce for over a year, so can't point exactly where those settings are, but they're there.
[20:51] <Rarrikins> elisa87: After you get OK, does `sudo apt update` work?
[20:52] <elisa87> no it doesn't Rarrikins Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://developer.download.nvidia.com  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F60F4B3D7FA2AF80
[20:52] <Eightynine> [Gort]: do you use Unity or what?
[20:52] <bekks> elisa87: Can you pastebin the entire ouput of "sudo apt update" pleasE?
[20:53] <bekks> elisa87: Because the output above is a warning only.
[20:53] <Rarrikins> Eightynine: They come out very slowly. 4.10 came out in April 2012. 4.12 came out in February 2015.
[20:53] <chyno> ppf: ok, it shows that it is installed, but i was used to search for the lib and includes in /usr/local/cuda-*, but there is nothing now
[20:53] <[Gort]> yeah, I do. Now thinking about it, I have Xfce on a Debian install on a virtual machine, but that's on my Windows system (on Ubuntu 16.04 now)
[20:54] <[Gort]> Eightynine, but when I did use Xfce regularly, those settings were ones I changed.
[20:54] <elisa87> bekks:  Rarrikins http://pastebin.com/TtLB6ZVX
[20:54] <Eightynine> I like that XFCE is simple and takes twice less than Gnome.
[20:55] <chyno> but it can also be some mismatch beacuse of output of apt-install
[20:55] <chyno> Note, selecting 'libcuda-7.0-1' for regex 'cuda-7.0' Note, selecting 'libcuda1-361' instead of 'libcuda-7.0-1'
[20:55] <chyno> ppf
[20:55] <[Gort]> yeah, it was great on my previous system which was quite old. Ran fine even on a P4 with 1GB of RAM.
[20:55] <Rarrikins> elisa87: I searched for that NO_PUBKEY message on Google, and what shows up as the only result? Your paste just now.
[20:56] <ppf> chyno: what exactly did you install?
[20:57] <ppf> you need the driver (that's libcuda), and the cuda sdk (/usr/local/cuda
[20:57] <ppf> )
[20:57] <chyno> cuda-7.0 with added deb+local package
[20:58] <ppf> https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-toolkit
[20:58] <ppf> they call it toolkit now
[20:58] <ppf> "now"
[20:59] <Wicaeed> Is there any way to make modprobe.d config changes take affect immediately (or without rebooting)? I'm trying to lock down the RPC NFS lockd process to use a certain tcp/udp port in nfs_lockd.conf file under modprobe.d, however the changes aren't picked up following a restart of the rpcbind service.
[20:59] <Wicaeed> Everything I've read says you need to reboot the client machine in order to make that happen
[20:59] <Wicaeed> What's the reason behind that?
[21:00] <chyno> ppf: yes, i downloaded deb+local package from https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-toolkit-70
[21:01] <chyno> ppf: but it seems to me that only the lib was installed
[21:04] <ppf> did it install  cuda-toolkit-7 as well?
[21:06] <chyno> ppf: not sure, this is the output of `sudo dpkg --get-selections  | grep cuda` : http://pastebin.com/Z3vv0UWd
[21:07] <ppf> right
[21:07] <ppf> apt update && apt install cuda-7-0
[21:08] <ppf> or cuda-7, don't know what the correct name is
[21:08] <OerHeks> bug 1628687
[21:09] <k1l> OerHeks: that is the todays famous systemd bug?
[21:09] <OerHeks> k1l, jups
[21:09] <k1l> ok
[21:10] <chyno> ppf: apt install cuda hints only this : http://pastebin.com/T4LAGb2c
[21:10] <chyno> and Unable to locate package cuda-7-0
[21:11] <chyno> they are usually named this way
[21:11] <ppf> then something didn't go right in your install
[21:12] <ppf> why not install 8?
[21:12] <ppf> apt install cuda-toolkit-8-0
[21:12] <idoko> OerHeks, i thought a patch was released like an hour after that post made rounds
[21:12] <ppf> idoko: the patch was bad
[21:12] <OerHeks> idoko, correct, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3094-1/
[21:13] <OerHeks> but the vuln is not fixed complete
[21:13] <OerHeks> bugreport says we need to wait for upstream, instead of opening new cve
[21:13] <chyno> ppf: not sure if it is supported by my driver (361) and last time i have found it out after recompilation of all sources (opencv + doppia) and that takes like an hour or so
[21:14] <idoko> oerheks, oh i see...
[21:14] <ppf> you did run apt update, right?
[21:15] <chyno> yes, sure
[21:16] <ppf> i suggest try toolkit-8 or download the 7(.5) .run installer
[21:18] <chyno> ppk: thanks, i will try. and there is any refrence to minimum version of driver needed for these cuda toolkits?
[21:20] <ppf> i'm running 7.5 with 352
[21:21] <ppf> but that's why it's preferable to install the packages, they depend on appropriate drivers
[21:24] <esuarez> !push 23768
[21:26] <elisa87> any hint to have me fix this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/831355/failed-to-initialize-nvml-driver-library-version-mismatch
[21:29] <ppf> elisa87: did you try to uninstall 352?
[21:31] <ppf> elisa87: actually, can you show us the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-352_hybrid.conf?
[21:34] <ppf> if that file contains a modprobe, delete it or move it someplace else
[21:35] <craigbass76> I've got an rsync script running. Is there a way, if the network conks out, for it to resume itself with a switch in the rsync command, or have I got to cough up some sort of script? I'm currently running rsync -azOP user@remote_box:/directory /local/directory/
[21:36] <craigbass76> I'm also listening to a John Pizzarelli concert on youtube, but I'm not sure if that will help...
[21:38] <maddawg1> offtopic
[21:50] <NomadJim> does ubuntu come with a swap file already configured? I'm running a 2GB vm that is getting an "virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory" and I'm about to make a new swap disk but don't want to make one if it's alreadythere but too small
[21:50] <NomadJim> 14.04 LTS
[21:50] <k1l> NomadJim: no
[21:51] <NomadJim> ty
[21:51] <bekks> NomadJim: How much RAM does your host have?
[21:51] <NomadJim> 16GB
[21:51] <bekks> NomadJim: So thats not the underlying issue.
[21:51] <k1l> NomadJim: you can look at "swapon -s"
[21:52] <bekks> NomadJim: Which kind of vm, which hypervisor? And where exactly do you get that error?
[21:52] <NomadJim> thx sawpon -s is empty
[21:52] <NomadJim> virtualbox
[21:52] <NomadJim> I'm getting it after doing a pip install scipy
[21:52] <bekks> NomadJim: Inside the VM?
[21:52] <NomadJim> ya
[21:52] <bekks> NomadJim: So configure more RAM for your VM.
[21:53] <NomadJim> would rathe rkeep it the same and have a swap file for the install
[21:53] <chyno> ppf: many thanks! it seems that everything is properly installed and the driver was updated because of cuda8 dependency. thanks again for your time and patience
[21:54] <bekks> NomadJim: So you need a swapfile in your VM.
[22:04] <achtung_mike> Has anyone seen the following situation.  A tmpfs is mounted say at /data/export/tmp and there is an LV mounted at / and when you do a df -h for the entire system the LV mounted at / shows usage against it (thinks there is more disk usage than there is) bc of the tmpfs mounted below it in the hierarchy?
[22:14] <crypto0> what kind of crypto 727 wew wwelncpa wcvb lihgqevw wq wigligs wew vevvenqwpv
[22:19] <nicomachus> lol ok
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> Hi there... is there anyone who can help me?
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> i used ubuntu gnome 14.04.3 and it was good. stable.
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> couple weeks ago i upgraded to 16.04.1 and it just crashes and freezes randomly since
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> is there anything i can do to fix that?
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> its just disappointing and there is no fun to work with that system anymore
[22:29] <MahatmaAndi> asked in #ubuntu-gnome but no answers there
[22:29] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: 14.04.3 (fwiw) is eol, you need to be on 14.04.5 at this point
[22:29] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: it's not normal that you see random crashes or freezes
[22:29] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: do you have any logs or suspicions?
[22:30] <korEn3tz> quit
[22:30] <MahatmaAndi> maybe.. where do i get logs
[22:31] <k1l> MahatmaAndi: depends on what is happening exactly. is it a hardware/driver issue? or is it a software issue?
[22:32] <MahatmaAndi> software i think.. like i said. in 14.04 all worked well
[22:32] <MahatmaAndi> and it freezed about 15 minutes ago
[22:32] <MahatmaAndi> meens... i could not do anything except mooving the mouse
[22:32] <nacc> if you can move the mouse then it's not frozen
[22:33] <nacc> well, not fully
[22:33] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: can you drop to a terminal shell (ctrl + alt + f2)
[22:33] <MahatmaAndi> and go with ctrl+alt+f1 to another terminal to sudo reboot
[22:33] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: oh and you can?
[22:33] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: then again, it's not frozen ...
[22:33] <double_face> Hi all
[22:33] <MahatmaAndi> but i cant do anything else
[22:33] <gnome> link for a hack blog in deep?
[22:33] <gnome> please
[22:34] <double_face> how i can downgrade in a ubuntu 16.04 machine from version 47.0 to version 36 of curl
[22:34] <double_face> to remove it's just apt-get remove curl
[22:34] <nacc> double_face: you can't
[22:34] <nacc> double_face: why do you think you want to?
[22:34] <double_face> a ssl issue
[22:35] <k1l> gnome: we dont support that in here.
[22:35] <FreeFog> HI sorry to bother i'm tring to setup my ubuntu pc, and im unsure about my SSD compatibility , using Kubuntu 16.04 kernet 4.4 and Crucial M550, which apears black listed on https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/e64f638483a21105c7ce330d543fa1f1c35b5bc7/drivers/ata/libata-core.c#L4109-L4286
[22:35] <nacc> double_face: what ssl issue?
[22:35] <double_face> https://sourceforge.net/p/curl/bugs/1319/
[22:35] <double_face> I have the same probelm in version 47
[22:36] <MahatmaAndi> so maybe its not called "frozen"... but something happens so that the system does not respond to mouse-clicks and keyboard
[22:36] <double_face> and because I have some php curl request in the server and they are important to us I need to downgrade
[22:37] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: except you said it let you go to the shell
[22:37] <OerHeks> FreeFog, old issue, already fixed
[22:37] <Penguin900> Can anyone here help me with a weird problem I am having with a aufs mount?
[22:37] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: so you mean the windowing environment has crashed?
[22:37] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: yeah right
[22:38] <FreeFog> OerHeks, Whats the proper way to check SSD issues? should I specify TRIM on fstab?
[22:38] <FreeFog> OerHeks, Thanks in advance
[22:39] <OerHeks> !trim
[22:39] <OerHeks> no need for any tweaking anymore, FreeFog
[22:39] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: it would help, if i at least could do something withour rebooting every time it happens. so that all programs stay open
[22:39] <MahatmaAndi> *without
[22:40] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: we'd need to know what's crashing (things like journalctl, dmesg, etc. woudl help)
[22:40] <FreeFog> Last SSD question, I do use tmpfs, checking the devian manual there is a note activating RAMTMP, RAMRUN and RAMLOCK o "yes" (in /etc/default/rcS or /etc/default/tmpfs since Wheezy), but I see no such structure
[22:41] <drjuls> nacc: Hello! the only way I could make the mouse work was creating an executable file with the commands, and opening every time began: /
[22:41] <double_face> for example I have two server with the same code and the curl version is difrent. in the older version works, and in the new version fail
[22:42] <double_face> and the reqeust is the same
[22:42] <double_face>   https://api.fleetclaims.net/app/api/test/info.php
[22:42] <double_face> https://testwysi.gq/curl.php
[22:43] <FreeFog> SSD when editing I see no /etc/default/tmpfs file, I'm concerned if I should create 1 or edit rcS or manually specify the tmpfs on fstab
[22:43] <nacc> double_face: and you're sure you're using the right optoins to e.g., curl_setopt in php? Note that i fixed (well rejected) a bug someone else filed that was similar
[22:43] <nacc> double_face: LP: #1594793
[22:44] <Jordan_U> FreeFog: You're usisng tmpfs for /tmp/ or something else? You should only need to configure it in /etc/fstab. Also, I don't see how this relates to use of an SSD (unless you're worried about exessive writes, which you probably shouldn't be with a modern ssd).
[22:44] <nacc> double_face: are you able to curl (not php curl) by hand on both servers?
[22:45] <double_face> in the server with version 35 yes
[22:45] <double_face> in the other npo
[22:45] <double_face> and yes the code is exacly the same
[22:46] <nacc> double_face: not the code (no php), just `curl` ... can you pastebin `curl -v <url>` from both?
[22:46] <nacc> double_face: i assume php7?
[22:46] <double_face> when i do the call from the server with the version 45 i get the error
[22:46] <double_face> curl: (35) gnutls_handshake() failed: Error in the pull function.
[22:46] <double_face> yes
[22:46] <double_face> is php 7
[22:47] <blackghost> hey
[22:47] <nacc> double_face: can you pastebin the full `curl -v` output?
[22:48] <nacc> double_face: actually wait, that's weird
[22:48] <MMan> Hello there... is there a way to get the entire distr as iso image ? DVD or something ?
[22:48] <double_face> curl 7.47.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.47.0 GnuTLS/3.4.10 zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.32 librtmp/2.3
[22:48] <double_face> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtmp rtsp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
[22:48] <double_face> Features: AsynchDNS IDN IPv6 Largefile GSS-API Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM NTLM_WB SSL libz TLS-SRP UnixSockets
[22:48] <double_face> yes
[22:48] <nacc> double_face: pastebin not in the channel
[22:48] <double_face> thats the server with problems
[22:48] <FreeFog> SSD Jordan_U : Even if modern ssd arent a problem, it just makes sense for me to move /tmp /run/lock and /var/spool
[22:48] <double_face> curl 7.36.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.36.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1f zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.28
[22:48] <double_face> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtsp smtp smtps telnet tftp
[22:48] <double_face> Features: AsynchDNS GSS-Negotiate IDN IPv6 Largefile NTLM NTLM_WB SSL libz TLS-SRP
[22:48] <nacc> double_face: *pastebin*
[22:49] <nacc> !pastebin | double_face
[22:49] <FreeFog> SSD : but instead of editing fstab Debian manual recommends changing 3 variables
[22:49] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: the full output of journalctl and dmesg? thats a lot..
[22:49] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: well, relevant output, probably
[22:50] <nacc> double_face: while not exactly the same, i just spun up a 16.04 container: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253285/
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253289/
[22:51] <double_face> http://pastebin.com/EBnpWbH4
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: --^ with that version
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: your second server (working) is using openssl
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: what OS is it?
[22:52] <zupern00b> hello, some  releases ago I remember having an option in the ubuntu installer that allowed you to install windows and ubuntu side-by-side without having to do manual partitioning. Is it not the case any longer? BTW I'm trying to install 16.04 in dual boot with an oldish version of Windows 7
[22:52] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: well.. so i need to know whats the relevant part.. somehow. Is there a description where i can get that? not how to use the programs but whats the "relevant" part :)
[22:52] <nacc> double_face: but as you can see from my pastes, my 16.04 of the same version as yours is able to connect
[22:52] <double_face> one is ubunto 16.04 the server 1, and the otehr is 14.04
[22:52] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: pastebin the whole thing and we can help
[22:53] <double_face> and I have notice that the second server is using openssl and teh otehr one package I don't know to be honest
[22:54] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: The option is "install along side" is still there . However, the 4 primary partition limit applies !
[22:54] <FreeFog> zupern00b , EFI or MBR Windows 7?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> FreeFog: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/01/20/data-driven-analysis-tmp-on-tmpfs/ says that only the fstab entry is needed, and I see no reason anything else should be needed.
[22:54] <zupern00b> MBR probably, it's a machine from 2010 I think
[22:54] <FreeFog> THanks A lot Jordan_U
[22:54] <double_face> I get connections to some server but for some specific server I get ther error of the ssl
[22:55] <Jordan_U> FreeFog: You're welcome.
[22:55] <zupern00b> FreeFog: probably MBR
[22:55] <nacc> double_face: you mean by IP? or by hostname? as I tried to the server you showed me as erroring it seemed to work?
[22:55] <FreeFog> Jordan_U what I gonna tmpfs is /var/run /var/lock /tmp and spool
[22:55] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: dmsg : http://pastebin.com/JQCVT8q0
[22:55] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: really? the installer goes just "Erase entire disk", encryption, LVM or "Try something else" onnly to me
[22:55] <double_face> by hostname
[22:56] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: but then I haven't counted the partitions. I never saw this problem before tbh
[22:56] <nacc> double_face: are you trying to force sslv3?
[22:56] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: journalctl from last 50 minutes: http://pastebin.com/MnkYGcKv
[22:56] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" .
[22:57] <FreeFog> zupern00b : it also depends on the parittion table, if it is gpt u can have more than 4 primary
[22:57] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: In the live environmentl terminal command 'sudo fdisk -lu ' and count the partitions present . Best I recall, if there is not partitions available for the installer to install ., the install alongside option is not available .
[22:57] <FreeFog> zupern00b there are ways to modify the disk and disk partitions but they are super risky
[22:58] <double_face> nacc: yes.
[22:59] <double_face> this page don't will display nothing but if you try what result you get?
[22:59] <double_face> https://licences.fleetclaims.net/oAuth/token/renewAccess.php
[22:59] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: looks like it's BIOS! http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253300/
[23:00] <nacc> double_face: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253303/
[23:01] <nacc> double_face: worked fine in 14.04, 16.04 and 16.10
[23:01] <nacc> double_face: did you provide `curl -v` or `curl -v -3` output trying to access that URL from your not working server?
[23:01] <nacc> double_face: not curl --version, but verbose curl
[23:01] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: "Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes." Ubuntu's installer doesn't handle errors from libparted gracefully at all, so this is probably why you're not seeing the "install alongside" option.
[23:02] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: hmm... I count only three partitions on /dev/sda, which is the HDD with only one windows install. perhaps the linux swap would add a fourth on it that's why?
[23:02] <double_face> just the curl -v
[23:02] <zupern00b> oh Jordan_U, perhaps that's why? :(
[23:02] <nacc> double_face: that's curl -V you provided
[23:02] <nacc> double_face: i'm specifically asking for curl -v
[23:03] <nacc> double_face: (lower v)
[23:03] <nacc> double_face: as in verbose output of the curl that fails
[23:03] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: if that's the case are there any workarounds? Or should I just partition the disk myself with GParted?
[23:03] <nacc> double_face: but as you can see from my 3 setups, curl is using SSLv3 just fine?
[23:03] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: GParted is just as ungraceful, and will just show the disk as being empty.
[23:04] <zupern00b> FreeFog: IIRC partitioning isn't too hard, as long as you put the root, home and swap in there. I know there are a few guides, but do you have any in mind that teach how to do it manually?
[23:05] <hwaetwegear> If I install the beta release of yakkety, will it automatically upgrade to the LTS in two weeks?
[23:05] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: should be in that case that the installer will make up a "extended" partition, and in this extended partition make up 2 logical partitions  to install the system to . Humm . sorta lost now as to why the option is not offered .
[23:05] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: oh darn. Looks like I'm out of options then?
[23:05] <nacc> hwaetwegear: yakkety is *not* LTS
[23:05] <double_face> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253311/
[23:05] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: could you find something usefull?
[23:06] <hwaetwegear> nacc: I know it isn't atm, but will the beta version update to the final version if I install it now, or will I need to do a full clean reinstall in two weeks?
[23:06] <nacc> hwaetwegear: no, yakkety is *not* an LTS release
[23:06] <nacc> hwaetwegear: nothing "atm" about it
[23:06] <FreeFog> zupern00b : I generally do it manually =), I go gpt, then create absurdly big EFI and mycrosoft system reserved partitions (512MiBs each)
[23:06] <double_face> nacc yes.. and your version is the same as mine strange
[23:06] <FreeFog> zupern00b but the mos timportant remark is to install the boot loader on /sda1 , on the efi partition with windows
[23:07] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: yeah, I had never seen this thing either. Thought it was the ubuntu installer having removed the option starting from some of the newer editions
[23:07] <hwaetwegear> nacc: Oh, my bad. Please excuse my ignorance. I should have asked if it will update to the stable version.
[23:07] <nacc> hwaetwegear: yakkety will of course be yakkety when it releases, whether you installed at beta or dist-upgrade from xenial -- but in either case it's not LTS
[23:07] <nacc> hwaetwegear: well, depending on what you mean by 'stable'
[23:07] <zupern00b> tbh I haven't dual booted in a few years myself
[23:07] <FreeFog> zupern00b : and to remove the 4 primary partition limits u need gpt partition table
[23:07] <nacc> double_face: yeah, very strange, i'm reading what you pasted
[23:07] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: nothing is sticking out :/
[23:07] <double_face> thanks
[23:07] <hwaetwegear> nacc: I mean the final, consumer version
[23:07] <FreeFog> zupern00b : there is some extra complications if u want LVM but nothing super hard
[23:07] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: I'm honestly a little surprised that you're getting this error message and I don't understand why you are. Is this possibly a new drive that was image copied from an older drive?
[23:08] <nacc> hwaetwegear: yes, betas are just points in time
[23:08] <zupern00b> FreeFog: thanks, I will keep these tips in mind. Doesn't the installer put grub automagically there in the end, though?
[23:08] <nacc> double_face: can you run that agin with 'GNUTLS_DEBUG_LEVEL=6' set in the env?
[23:08] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: yeah, It's the first time I'm getting these too
[23:08] <hwaetwegear> nacc: but will it automatically upgrade to the final version when it is release, or will I need to download the iso and start the whole process over again?
[23:08] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: okay.. thanks anyway
[23:09] <nacc> !final | hwaetwegear
[23:09] <hwaetwegear> nacc: I am asking b/c I am a new user who need yakkety for the polaris support, but I'm wondering if it would be a waste of time to install it now.
[23:09] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: this computer has never been reinstalled or had any major changes to its disk. It's the same thing all the way since it was purchased in 2010 ish
[23:09] <hwaetwegear> nacc: OK, thanks. That's the info I was looking for.
[23:10] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: I didn't know that HDDs could also have compatibility issues with some linux distros. I guess I just TIL'd it
[23:11] <nacc> hwaetwegear: just to be clear, i think the question implies a misapprehension of what an ubuntu release is :) yakkety is a stream basically. You can join the stream whenever you want (well presuming it's open), it will be 'released' at some point, and then 'eol'd at some point. A 'beta' is just a fixed point in the stream close to the 'release'
[23:11] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: This isn't a distro specific problem, and I now see that the error is related to your USB drive, which makes much more sense.
[23:12] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: the USB drive? Where I've put the LiveCD?
[23:13] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: perhaps a badly-burnt CD Image?
[23:13] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: Yes. It makes total sense because the drive has a large block size but the iso file is designed for 512 byte sectors.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: Please check if Gparted Does or does not list the partitions on your internal drive properly.
[23:15] <double_face> nacc How I can change the value of the var?
[23:15] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: weird, Gparted keeps crashing
[23:16] <nacc> double_face: e.g., `GNUTLS_DEBUG_LEVEL=99 curl -v -3 https://licences.fleetclaims.net/oAuth/token/renewAccess.php`
[23:16] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: perhaps one more reason to suspect that the LiveUSB was badly burnt?
[23:16] <FreeFog> zupern00b : generally the default option is to install the boot loader on sda and not sda1, the first being a tiny sector on the disk, I strongly recommend ya using the installer on a USB stick and run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade BEFORE installing
[23:17] <FreeFog> zupern00b : then restart the live USB and peform the install
[23:18] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: It's not neccessarrily badly written (the verb burn only applies to optical media).
[23:18] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: In the boot options screen of the liveUSB is " check disk for defects" .
[23:19] <zupern00b1> Bashing-om: right, that would check the Computer's disk or the liveCD?
[23:20] <double_face> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253354/
[23:20] <double_face> thanks
[23:20] <zupern00b1> Bashing-om: (sorry, but to me it sounds a little ambiguous)
[23:21] <zupern00b1> FreeFog: thanks for the tips! Last case scenario I will go manual partitioning
[23:22] <elkclone> feh
[23:22] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: ok, maybe it's not badly written. Could be a compatibility problem between Ubuntu and the device-handling capabilities of this computer then?
[23:24] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: The "check disk for defects" checks the install medium .
[23:26] <nacc> double_face: hrm, i really don't know -- you might need to file a bug
[23:26] <nacc> double_face: it's really strange that i can't reproduce the exact output you're getting
[23:30] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: ok thanks, I'll try that later :)
[23:31] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: :)
[23:31] <double_face> nacc I think the problem is related with this
[23:31] <double_face> There was a non-CA certificate in the trusted list:
[23:31] <elisa87> please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/831386/gpgkeys-key-f60f4b3d7fa2af80-not-found-on-keyserver
[23:32] <nacc> double_face: ah ... that could affect it
[23:33] <mrb101> Hey, I need help with rendering some fonts characters showing up as squares in Terminal and Vim. Anyone can help ?
[23:33] <nacc> double_face: not sure, but it might be worth trying to fix that
[23:36] <secretdude0> what's up ubuntu-ers!! :D :D
[23:37] <Bashing-om> elisa87: Checking : "gpg --search-key F60F4B3D7FA2AF80 >> gpg: searching for "F60F4B3D7FA2AF80" from hkp server keys.gnupg.net >> gpg: key "F60F4B3D7FA2AF80" not found on keyserver " .
[23:38] <nacc> double_face: i was hoping it would be something more obvious, but if that doesn't work, I would file a bug. curl is pretty core so i think it'd get some attention
[23:39] <double_face> thanks nacc
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[23:58] <nacc> double_face: np, sorry i couldn't be of more direct help


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