[16:27] <flocculant> nairwolf: not able to confirm bug 1576771 - I can resize the window down to as far as any other window resizes
[16:28] <nairwolf> flocculant: Hi, are you sure to reduce at the maximum the menu bar ?
[16:28] <nairwolf> Because if the menubar on the left is displayed it works.
[16:29] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/nCpEs7q.png
[16:30] <nairwolf> oh yes, and you can reduce the window ?
[16:31] <flocculant> that's reduced as much as any window reduces to
[16:33] <nairwolf> I need to try on a VM
[16:34] <flocculant> nairwolf: that or login as a guest
[16:35] <nairwolf> yes, except that I can't close my session right now
[16:35] <flocculant> nairwolf: well you don't *have* to do it immediately :D
[16:36] <nairwolf> indeed
[16:36] <flocculant> :)
[16:43] <nairwolf> I'm actually trying to write correctly chinese characters
[16:55] <nairwolf> flocculant: I've tried in a VM, by default it works, you can reduce the window. But, go on preferences and click on "view items as icons". Now the window can't be reduced
[16:56] <nairwolf> You can increase the window, and when you increase and add a new row of icons, then you can't reduce more
[17:03] <nairwolf> Can you confirm that flocculant ?
[17:09] <flocculant> nairwolf: yep - reported it upstream and added bug watch
[17:09] <flocculant> that said - doesn't seem that important to me at least - not sure I'd not want the left menu sidebar :)
[17:12] <flocculant> nairwolf: thanks for reporting it though :)
[17:12] <flocculant> I confirmed the mousepad issue
[17:13] <nairwolf> maybe for you, but it's annoying for me because I don't want the left menu sidebar
[17:13] <nairwolf> Usually, I use xfce4-appfinder with a shortcut (super+a) and I just write the software I want to launch
[17:13] <nairwolf> And it's really fast
[17:14] <nairwolf> For me, it's useless to have menu (but I understand for some people it's interesting).
[17:14] <nairwolf> Thank you for your correction in the bug report
[17:16] <nairwolf> I've edited the first description to add the condition "see items as icons"
[17:18] <flocculant> nairwolf: so if you shortcut then type - why use appfinder ? I have whisker on right super - one key type name
[17:18] <flocculant> anyway - that's all as long as it's broad - some people use just shortcuts for lots of things I would think :)
[17:21] <nairwolf> Is it possible to open whisker with one key ? I need to try that !
[17:22] <nairwolf> whisker isn't something from Xfce right ?
[17:27] <flocculant> whisker menu is the default menu in xubuntu
[17:34] <nairwolf> yes, but is it something from Xfce or is it something added by Xubuntu ?
[17:40] <nairwolf> flocculant: what is the command line used to launch whisker ?
[17:40] <flocculant> xubuntu
[17:40] <nairwolf> ok, that's what I thought
[17:40] <flocculant> xfce4-popup-whiskermenu
[17:41] <nairwolf> oh, really, how I can miss that ? Thanks ;)
[17:48] <dkessel> uh. the mouse cursor just came back after locking the screen. what is happening here? :)
[18:48] <flocculant> confusionattack I guess
[21:21] <ochosi> bluesabre: "(...) this will put clutter on the path towards retirement." https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/04/29/yet-another-gtk-update/
[21:25] <ochosi> bluesabre: so probably should wait for gtk3.22 for fixing parole's clutter backend


[04:27] <mup> Bug #1953049 changed: Error while calling ScanNetworks: Unable to get RPC connection for rack controller <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953049>
[04:30] <mup> Bug #1953049 opened: Error while calling ScanNetworks: Unable to get RPC connection for rack controller <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953049>
[04:36] <mup> Bug #1953049 changed: Error while calling ScanNetworks: Unable to get RPC connection for rack controller <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953049>
[06:40] <mup> Bug #1961008 opened: "Different channel detected" error with an air-gapped deployment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961008>
[07:01] <mup> Bug #1961008 changed: "Different channel detected" error with an air-gapped deployment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961008>
[07:04] <mup> Bug #1961008 opened: "Different channel detected" error with an air-gapped deployment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961008>
[18:20] <mup> Bug #1961099 opened: MAAS detects and tries to use USB adapter with network device installed in usb <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961099>
[18:32] <mup> Bug #1961099 changed: MAAS detects and tries to use USB adapter with network device installed in usb <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961099>
[18:41] <mup> Bug #1961099 opened: MAAS detects and tries to use USB adapter with network device installed in usb <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961099>
[18:44] <mup> Bug #1961099 changed: MAAS detects and tries to use USB adapter with network device installed in usb <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961099>
[18:47] <mup> Bug #1961099 opened: MAAS detects and tries to use USB adapter with network device installed in usb <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961099>


[20:38] <Mmike> Hi, folks. I just downloaded ubuntu-20.04-server iso installation and I want to set up my server with it. Trying first inside KVM, and installer fails, and I don't see why.
[20:38] <Mmike> Im surprised to see debian-installer is no longer there and that cloud-init does bunch of stuff :)
[20:38] <Mmike> Is there a way to run installer in -debug mode, or something like that?
[20:41] <Mmike> O, fala dreku, postoji legacy installer.
[20:41] <Mmike> Pa srca vam, Ivoks... sta radite tamo? :D
[20:42] <Mmike> Whops, wrong channel :)
[20:43] <Mmike> Anyhow, there is legacy installer! :)
[20:49] <Mmike> Seems that subiquity dies when I set my local apt-cacher-ng for a proxy (which works fine in legacy installer).
[21:42] <teward> Mmike: yeah i think that's a known limitation currently (and you should avoid apt-cacher-ng if you're doing a fresh install, just pull from the standard repo mirrors during installation and then install your proxy to the machine after)
[21:48] <Mmike> teward, it seems that the problem is when I tell the installer to pull my ssh keys from launchpad - that wants to use proxy to connect to launchpad, and apt-cacher just says 'this is wrong', as it only deals with .debs and Packages.gz and those.
[21:48] <Mmike> but the legacy installer worked flawlessly :)
[21:48] <teward> ahh i see what you did because that 'proxy' you set is not just the apt proxy that's the entire network traffic proxy
[21:48] <teward> that's your problem ;)
[21:49] <teward> it actually says that I believe proxy for internet access and such not just your packages
[21:49] <teward> you could always *not* install the SSH keys automatically until postinstall
[21:49] <teward> because you can just do `ssh-import-id LPID` afterwards and it'll do the same thing
[21:52] <Mmike> teward, but, installer could also assume that when asked for proxy, figures out that it just MIGHT be apt-cacher (as that's been the case for a very very long time), and try not to contact launchpads and githubs over the said proxy if it IS apt-cahcer :)
[21:52] <teward> no way to tell if a proxy is or is not apt-cacher
[21:53] <teward> USUALLY apt-cacher-ng is *not* a typical setup situation so :P
[21:53] <teward> edge cases ;)
[21:53] <Mmike> or I'm just too old :)
[21:53] <teward> if you want a feature file a bug against subiquity and see what the devs for it say
[21:53] <teward> Mmike: or a hybrid of both cases.
[21:53] <teward> I mean i'm also insane, I have an entire apt mirror for amd64 and i386 here in my server cluster at home
[21:53] <teward> so I just point things to the local path xD
[21:53] <teward> (1.5TB of data, anyone? :P)
[22:01] <teward> Mmike: also I just confirmed this isn't an apt proxy it's the proxy to the Outside World it even says so in the installer
[22:02] <teward> so your 'issue' is you're trying to use a non-web-proxy as a proxy if passing via Subiquity
[22:02] <teward> you should leave the settings alone for initial install, then update your **apt proxy settings** accordingly post-install


[16:11] <cmaloney> https://www.fsf.org/news/statement-of-fsf-board-on-election-of-richard-stallman
[19:01] <jrwren> https://twitter.com/FiloSottile/status/1381659663465349130?s=20
[19:35] <Scary_Guy> Can't read Twitter links
[19:41] <jrwren> sounds like me with FB links.
[19:41] <cmaloney> heh
[19:42] <cmaloney> probably because they turned off non-javascript support
[19:50] <jrwren> Filo says: "I'll be frank, in my personal capacity.
[19:50] <jrwren> GNU is no one's OS.
[19:50] <jrwren> It's a compiler less active than LLVM, a libc only preferable to musl because of its prevalence, and a set of C utilities that we should really rewrite in Go or Rust, but are not even important enough to prioritize."
[19:50] <jrwren> "To recap, the GPL failed to have widespread impact, GNU is increasingly legacy software, and the FSF is now reduced to a personality cult.
[19:50] <jrwren> It's sad and disappointing.
[19:50] <jrwren> We do need a modern FSF focused on real issues of online agency more than ever. Regrettably, it's not the
[19:50] <jrwren> @FSF
[19:54] <cmaloney> ++
[21:39] <Scary_Guy> Ouch lol
[21:40] <Scary_Guy> Also, because of that and also because I blocked them at the domain level :D
[21:41] <Scary_Guy> Some things on the net just don't need to exist for me.
[21:41] <Scary_Guy> (or anyone for that matter)
[21:48] <cmaloney> good call
[22:04] <jrwren> yeah, i blacklist FB and most FB domains. Great way to avoid the evil FB tracking system of the world.
[22:04] <jrwren> once I started I was and am continuously annoyed when people use FB for official things.
[22:05] <cmaloney> yes
[22:05] <cmaloney> same here
[22:50] <Scary_Guy> Same with Google although somehow that's seen as more acceptable
[23:05] <jrwren> i'd block google, but my kid needs it for school :(


[01:32] <TheNumbers> anyone able to get 1920x1080 in a lubuntu guest VM (VMware Workstation 10)?
[08:49] <jirido> Hi im on lubuntu 12.04 and i cant update because libssh2-1 seams to be from an not authorized source and sudo apt-get update gives some strange errors.. http://pastebin.com/mEF4fqXA
[08:51] <jirido> I have tried to solve this by updating signatures but it did not seem to help?? I would be greteful for help as i have no clue to what to do
[15:04] <ArthurBorsboom> Hi guys, I like to have some help regarding releasing a newer version of a package.
[15:05] <ArthurBorsboom> About two months ago, I have released a newer version of a sticky notes application called Xpad. It has been released on Launchpad, but I have a hard time getting it into the repositories.
[15:06] <ArthurBorsboom> I have contacted some package maintainers, but they do not respond to my emails. Does anybody have a suggestion to get this newer version in the Debian/Ubuntu repositories.
[15:06] <ArthurBorsboom> ?
[15:10] <ArthurBorsboom> help
[15:10] <ArthurBorsboom> :)
[15:10] <ArthurBorsboom> #help
[15:10] <ArthurBorsboom> nope.
[21:23] <koell> !seen jono
[21:34] <koell> ubottu: do u know lubuntu?
[21:34] <koell> never mind
[21:35] <holstein> koell: may i help?
[21:38] <zleap> koell, how can we help
[21:38] <koell> holstein: zleap thank you, im just curious about, why the bot doesnt know the !seen command :)
[21:39] <holstein> koell: its not coded to
[21:39] <zleap> !lastseen
[21:40] <zleap> not sure
[21:40] <koell> !lastseen jono
[21:40] <koell> !lastseen jono*
[21:40] <holstein> AFAIK, the bot has no application like that
[21:41] <holstein> its more for factoids and support
[21:41] <koell> holstein: im wondering, met jono bacon last time in this channel :)
[21:41] <zleap> :)
[21:41]  * zleap watching san diego vs denver
[21:41] <holstein> koell: jono is on regularly.. you can alway query the nick
[21:42] <holstein> koell: there are ways to leave memo's within freenode
[21:42] <zleap>  /msg memoserv send <user> message i think
[21:42] <zleap> without the leading space of course
[21:43] <zleap> that works on the other server we used for the dcglug before moving to freenode
[21:44] <koell> do u know where ubuntu's hq is located? do they have local offices? would be really cool to work there or in a debian based company :D
[21:44] <zleap> i know they have an office near london UK
[21:45] <holstein> koell: you would want to volunteer.. or just apply for a position
[21:45] <holstein> !contribute
[21:45] <koell> holstein: im looking for an internship and thought canonical would be a cool company to start look at
[21:45] <zleap> koell, that could be your way in to paid posts, if you contribute a lot of stuff you get noticed by everyone not just ubuntu people so someone may take you on and that can lead to other things
[21:47] <koell> zleap: im not really a big fan of paid blog posts.
[21:47] <zleap> i mean things like code, testing, documentation etc
[21:49] <koell> zleap: sure thats always a good way to start
[21:50] <zleap> yeah
[21:50] <holstein> koell: just decide what you would like to do.. most folks start by volunteering to get experience
[21:50] <holstein> koell: there are no real "internships" AFAIK, but i dont run the company in any way
[21:51] <zleap> i was looking at the uk vinspired site,  however the seemt o be for only under 25's  and yet their terms and conditions say opportunities should comply with UK discrimination law but be only open to under 25's
[21:51] <zleap> which makes no sense, i was going to see if we can promote the ubuntu community on there, as volunteering opportunities
[21:52] <koell> holstein: thank you. i think thats the problem. i need experience but most companies would like to have a minimum experience of 3 years.
[21:52] <zleap> yeah that sounds about normal
[21:52] <holstein> koell: the process i descibe, and link above *is* that experience
[21:52] <zleap> I have put a poster on the devon adn cornwall Lug site under get involved about benefits of being part of the community
[21:53] <zleap> contributing code etc
[21:54] <koell> holstein: zleap what do u guys working on in real life?
[21:54] <zleap> i work in a school but have sent stuff in to the lubuntu wiki
[21:55] <zleap> also been working on some python / raspberry pi stuff, personal projects but also to help out an after school computer group i am involved with
[21:55] <zleap> zbar-qrcode
[21:55] <holstein> koell: we can discuss in the #lubuntu-offtopic channel.. /join #lubuntu-offtopic and we will discuss
[21:55] <koell> zleap: really cool.
[21:56] <koell> holstein: oh im sorry. didnt know that channel exists. sure
[21:56] <holstein> koell: no worries
[21:57] <zleap> i may do a poster and link to http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/
[21:58] <zleap> which is easier for people to type in to a browser, the contribute to ubuntu one has a mix of upper / lowercase letters which confuses people when it doesn't work
[22:00] <zleap> where can i download the ubuntu logo thing like on the website
[22:00] <holstein> zleap: right click on it
[22:01] <holstein> zleap: koell1 has /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[22:01] <zleap> that doesn't work
[22:09] <zleap> http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/
[22:42] <zleap> i am off, but will see what i can come up with for the docs team
[22:43] <zleap> i am off, anyway
[22:43] <zleap> nie
[22:43] <zleap> nite


[12:47] <andrejz> hello all
[12:48] <andrejz> I've been looking at the dates for ubuntu global jam and it's going to be between march 1st-3rd
[12:49] <andrejz> however looking at the release schedule of 13.04 it seems string freeze will be march 21st, 3 weeks after UGJ


[01:24] <TransX2> Hey you guys, would it be okay if i asked a hardware question? I do run lubuntu. Lol
[01:29] <TransX2> I got a Everex IMPACT GS3005, AMD based. I have for USBs in the back. None of them work with anything other than a mouse...
[01:29] <TransX2> *four
[01:30] <TransX2> And when i boot it just keeps saying, "can not enumerate usb on port four".
[02:35] <calamari> hi.. just spent the last hour trying to figure out why my printer wouldn't work on 11.10 under acroread (non-ubuntu package). solution was I needed to install cups-bsd (which replaces the lpr program). also installed foomatic-db-engine to give myself better resolution
[02:36] <TransX2> Are you talking to me?
[02:36] <calamari> not talking to anyone in particular just sharing knowledge I gained :)
[02:37] <micahg> calamari: I think we have a bug open for that
[02:37] <TransX2> Would you know anything about my USBs working only with a mouse?
[02:37] <calamari> micahg: really? I figured there wouldn't be since acroread is not a supported package
[02:38] <TransX2> I mean the only thing they work with is a mouse.
[02:38] <calamari> TransX2: do you have usb 1.1 or usb 2.0?
[02:38] <micahg> calamari: I believe it's part of bug 884911
[02:39] <TransX2>  i have both enabled in the bios
[02:39] <calamari> micahg: excellent, thanks!
[02:39] <calamari> glad it's already fixed
[02:40] <TransX2> ?
[02:43] <calamari> TransX2: I was talking to micahg :)
[02:43] <TransX2> I know.
[02:44] <calamari> TransX2: ah ok.. does lsusb tell you it's "Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub"?
[02:44] <calamari> TransX2: and what other device are you trying to use, I think I came in after you mentioned that
[02:46] <TransX2> Well i have four in the back. Now my wifi adapter works, along with my mouse. But my keyboard still doesn't work.
[02:47] <TransX2> What is lsusb?
[02:48] <calamari> TransX2: it's a console program that lists some brief info about the usb devices in your system
[02:49] <TransX2> Should i download it?
[02:49] <TransX2> Lol
[03:01] <TransX2> I tried downloading isusb from the synaptic package manager but it's not there
[03:02] <TransX2> Only sis usb display driver, and it's installed
[04:44] <yonyon> it is possible to install compiz on LXDE?
[04:59] <holstein> yonyon: its in the repos
[05:00] <holstein> its not unlike this
[05:00] <holstein> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[05:03] <yonyon> yeah but it doesn't work
[05:03] <yonyon> cairo-dock still poping a warning about no coposite manager installed
[05:04] <holstein> yonyon: you'll need to install compiz, and run compiz --replace
[05:04] <holstein> you'd need to decide how you want to run that each time
[05:04] <holstein> you'll also need the proper graphics driver in some cases
[05:05] <holstein> i find that compiz check script handy, though the dev over at #compiz said it was useless, and asked that i not suggest it
[05:06] <holstein> if you want a nice light bar, try wbar :)
[05:06] <yonyon> compiz --replace  hide the lxpanel
[05:07] <holstein> probably... there are a few things you'll need to sort out for sure
[05:08] <holstein> i usually run that in a terminal for a while til i get it all sorted out
[05:14] <yonyon> only one warning: failed to load theme "adwaita"
[05:14] <holstein> not bad... i would expect some breakage til you sort it all out
[05:19] <Folklore> any know why it takes so long for the system to clean stuff up?I got a server I run via terminal
[05:19] <Folklore> when I exit the terminal takes like 5 minutes of trying to run the server again to get the OS to let me bind the socket
[05:20] <Folklore> is really annoying
[05:20] <Folklore> ps shows no other processes
[05:20] <Folklore> netstat -l shows nothin listening on it
[05:22] <Folklore> am running lubuntu in vbox
[05:23] <Folklore> have my host machine port forward to the vbox so I can reach my client os on real ip
[05:31] <Folklore> guess no one knows
[05:31] <Folklore> what about lubuntu ARM
[05:31] <Folklore> is that comin?
[09:09] <Michael72> Тут говорят по-русски?
[09:10] <Unit193> !ru | Michael72
[09:10] <Michael72> Tank you very match
[09:11] <Unit193> Yep
[10:18] <CaptainKnots> this is interesting
[10:18] <CaptainKnots> pidgin for irc
[10:48] <bioterror> CaptainKnots, some people tends to like it, some more hardcore ircers does not ;)
[16:07] <dustman> hi
[16:08] <dustman> I've got a problem with LXDE handling monitor's resolution
[16:09] <dustman> it sets it to 1280x1024 at every new log in, while I changing it to 1280x960 again and again
[16:10] <dustman> can LXDE be forced to remember correct screen resolution, or should I create/edit Xorg.conf?
[16:12] <holstein> dustman: i would probably try a custom xorg.conf
[16:12] <dustman> holstein: ty
[16:15] <dustman> holstein: where are Xorg configuration is located by default?
[16:16] <holstein> same as usual, AFAIK... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:17] <holstein> there shouldnt be one there... i usually fire up a knoppix live CD and grab the one from in there
[16:17] <dustman> ty again, changed something by hand ages ago
[16:28] <dustman> holstein: just created .xprofile with xrandr line
[16:28] <dustman> works now
[16:45] <holstein> dustman: :)
[17:49] <dustman> originally I installed Ubuntu 10.something and upgaded it several times, but with 11.10 switched first to Xfce and now to LXDE
[17:49] <dustman> which meta-packages can be killed w/o much trouble=
[17:49] <dustman> ?
[17:51] <holstein> dustman: depends
[17:51] <holstein> dustman: what do you want? XFCE? you can install xubuntu-desktop, and see if that gest you what you want
[17:52] <holstein> i wouldnt worry about clearing out the other stuff unless you are tight on hard drive space
[17:52] <dustman> holstein: no, i'm content with lxde
[17:52] <holstein> dustman: so, that would be lubuntu-desktop
[17:53] <dustman> got three session managers, several separate screen servers etc.
[17:53] <dustman> holstein: yep, installed it yesterday and it works fine
[17:53] <dustman> far better than xfce imo
[17:53] <holstein> dustman: like i say, unless you just want to save hard drive space, i wouldnt worry about it too much
[17:54] <dustman> sure, disk space is abundant but having tons of crap just bugs me
[17:55] <dustman> can't remember last time I used something like Thunderbird of Evince
[17:58] <holstein> it should be obvious though... if you want to look at all the screensavers for instance... mark one for removal, see what wants to be uninstalled... some of them will be connected to the ubuntu-desktop, some to xubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <holstein> i find sometimes this is just not elegant, and sometimes packages you *dont* want gone, want to get removed
[17:59] <holstein> you can hide them in the menu as well
[18:02] <dustman> problem is that I installed some stuff using meta-packs and to remove them one needs to mark separate packages one by one
[18:02] <holstein> depends
[18:03] <dustman> hard to know what requiered and what not
[18:03] <holstein> dustman: you can look through the list
[18:04] <holstein> again... if hard drive space isnt an issue, i say, dont sweat it
[18:05] <dustman> holstein: I'm bit paranoid and prefer to have only things I use
[18:05] <holstein> ?
[18:05] <holstein> if i were "paranoid", a fresh install would be the only thing that would put my mind at ease
[18:06] <holstein> otherwise, how do you know? a package list?
[18:06] <dustman> heh
[18:06] <holstein> thats availalbe somewhere
[18:06] <dustman> true
[18:06] <holstein> but again.. its a lot of hassle for something that literally might reclaim 90mb's of hard drive space
[18:06] <holstein> and gain nothing else
[18:06] <dustman> k, you're right
[18:07] <holstein> except clearing out the GUI menu, which you can do with or without removing those apps
[18:07] <holstein> dustman: i have xubuntu... i installed lubuntu-desktop
[18:07] <holstein> when i purge that, and reboot, the screen is black ;)
[18:07] <holstein> i put it back, and decided to try again later
[18:08] <holstein> can i sort that out? sure... but i also have work to do
[18:09] <dustman> btw, does lubuntu have something like F-Spot but simpler?
[18:09] <holstein> dustman: lubuntu has f-spot
[18:09] <holstein> its all the same repos
[18:09] <wxl> f-spot is gtk?
[18:09] <holstein> there are lots of image editors/organizers
[18:09] <dustman> pity... later version(s) got too complicated
[18:10] <holstein> i personally just use the file manager to manage files, even pictures
[18:10] <dustman> not for managing files, but to quickly modify pics, like rotation, crop, etc.
[18:11] <holstein> yup... i would probably just do that in the gimp, since thats what im comfortable with... but there are lots of open projects available
[18:11] <dustman> now even opening files in a new directory is a hassle
[18:12] <dustman> gimp is big and I never had big use of it
[18:12] <dustman> plus my wife is a pro with photoshop
[18:12] <holstein> im not suggesting you use it... im just saying, thats what i use, and i use it in any *buntu version
[18:12] <Michael72> !ru
[18:12] <dustman> can ask here for complicated things
[18:13] <wxl> um.
[18:13] <wxl> don't ask to ask; just ask
[18:16] <dustman> aha, found category 'Metapackages' in synaptic
[18:16] <dustman> apt-get missing that :)
[18:16] <wxl> you can install metapackages in apt
[18:18] <dustman> wxl: but not remove
[18:22] <wxl> things do get complicated with removals https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages#Creating_Metapackages
[18:56] <Arniee> Hey Can anyone help with Lubuntu installation please?
[18:57] <Arniee> I am getting this screen and it doesnt move
[18:57] <Arniee> http://s7.postimage.org/6w1san7iz/Image0248.jpg
[18:58] <wxl> Arniee: curious. how are you installing and on what architecture?
[18:59] <Arniee> Trying it on my old PC . AMD Athlon 3200+ 256MB ram
[18:59] <Arniee> ATI M/b
[18:59] <Arniee> xpress 200 series
[18:59] <wxl> what method are you using to install? and what version?
[19:00] <Arniee> the latest one.  I am using usb install
[19:00] <Arniee> 11.10
[19:00] <wxl> latest as i12 12.04a1?
[19:00] <wxl> uhh s/i12/in
[19:01] <Arniee> The same usb runs on my laptop
[19:02] <wxl> you're booting to usb?
[19:02] <Arniee> I am booting from usb , yes
[19:02] <Arniee> I used that universal pendrive installer
[19:02] <wxl> try acpi=off as a boot option
[19:03] <wxl> did you get the 64 bit version btw?
[19:03] <Arniee> no
[19:03] <Arniee> the i386 one
[19:03] <wxl> why?
[19:04] <Arniee> Ha. just
[19:04] <wxl> well i'd try 64bit first
[19:04] <wxl> then try acpi=off
[19:05] <Arniee> you get that option in boot screen?
[19:05] <Arniee> F6 or something?
[19:05] <wxl> yeah something like that :)
[19:05] <wxl> sorry, it's been a while since i had to both but i think it's f6
[19:05] <wxl> this, btw, is not a lubuntu-specific problem
[19:05] <wxl> many ubuntu users reported the same issue
[19:05] <Arniee> It migt be about my hardware
[19:05] <Arniee> might
[19:06] <Arniee> Cuz the same usb runs on another pc
[19:06] <Arniee> Does it have anything to do with ATI? I wonder
[19:06] <wxl> yeah sounds like it's an issue with the acpi on the system
[19:06] <Arniee> I should try that.
[19:06] <Arniee> Thanks a lot
[19:06] <Arniee> Bye
[19:06] <wxl> my bet is that you run acpi=off and get it installed and once you're in, upgrade the kernel, and you'll be good
[19:07] <Arniee> ;)
[19:07] <wxl> seriously get a new kernelasap
[19:07] <Arniee> ok. I just hoped I'd make use of the old pc
[19:07] <Arniee> Bye thanks
[19:08] <wxl> k see yu
[19:58] <u_> i tried xubuntu 11.10 and it was very buggy, so switched to lubuntu. has anyone else tried it?
[19:58] <phiscribe> i have not tried xubuntu in a few versions
[19:59] <lphiscribe> lubuntu is on this box, but im trying unity 2d atm
[20:01] <u_> how are you finding unity
[20:05]  * gilir looks at people around
[20:06] <gilir> hum, it seems that some people are missing for the meeting
[20:19] <dustman> are there any light-weight alternatives to F-Spot capable of incremental rotation of images and cropping?
[22:38] <demosfar> Hi people ... i need help...my wlan broadcom 432227 don't work on my new lubuntu 11.10
[22:38] <demosfar> any idea how to solv problem?
[22:41] <Unit193> !broadcom
[22:42] <holstein> installing firmware-b43-installer worked for me
[22:42] <demosfar> i tried already that and STA drivers and don't work
[22:43] <holstein> demosfar: that?
[22:43] <holstein> the several suggestions in that wiki page? or installing firmware-b43-installer ??
[22:43] <demosfar> i wanted to say that firmware-b43 didn't help me also
[22:44] <demosfar> neither STA drivers
[22:44] <holstein> demosfar: wanted?
[22:44] <holstein> im not following you
[22:44] <holstein> there are 2 different options there are that wiki page, have you tried both?
[22:44] <holstein> AFAIK, you need to reboot to get those loaded into the kernel
[22:45] <demosfar> yes i know...i rebooted but wireless led on laptop never lighted...and i wasn't able to see any wifi networks
[22:46] <holstein> demosfar: i would double check the hardware switches as well
[22:47] <demosfar> how to check that?
[22:47] <holstein> demosfar: really depends on your hardware... theres usually a switch, or a funciton key combonation
[22:48] <demosfar> okay...i did that...i tested everything...don't work :S
[22:48] <demosfar> when i type rfkill
[22:48] <demosfar> i check about software lock
[22:49] <holstein> demosfar: you can run lspci... if its listed there, thats a good start
[22:49] <holstein> then, you can try the options at that wiki page
[22:49] <demosfar> can you find me that page?
[22:49] <demosfar> or tell me
[22:49] <demosfar> what to type in wiki
[22:50] <holstein> !broadcom
[22:50] <holstein> the one that Unit193 linked you when you first asked
[22:51] <demosfar> ok I will try now
[22:51] <Unit193> Funny, there is a !broadcom and !bcm :P
[22:55] <bkm> hello, anyone having problems with the display of gmail using chromium-browser on lubuntu-oneric? it looks like gmail thinks i have a 640x480 display
[22:56] <holstein> bkm: hit control+0 to make sure its not just that
[22:56] <holstein> i have *not* noticed any issues
[22:56] <bkm> holstein++ interesting!
[22:57] <bkm> now it's about 100 x 100 px
[22:57] <bkm> maybe gmail thinks i'm on a phone...
[22:57] <holstein> control and + increases, control and - decreases... control 0 should go default
[22:58] <demosfar> how to see what interface my wifi uses?
[22:58] <bkm> right, so the question is, what have i or google done to make the default 100x100 pixels?
[22:58] <holstein> demosfar: you have wifi now? thats great! :)
[22:59] <demosfar> well i have it...but don't work..i cannot see any wireless network... :(
[22:59] <holstein> bkm: i think its safe to assume its not google...
[23:00] <holstein> demosfar: maybe just take a few minutes to get aquainted with the network manager
[23:00] <bkm> holstein: i guess i should just start turning off extensions?
[23:00] <demosfar> wifi led don't start..so i doubt that i will manage to connect to the wireless :S
[23:01] <Unit193> bkm: Do you happen to have another browser to try?
[23:01] <holstein> bkm: i would probably just create another user account, or look for where ever chromium stores its data in /home
[23:01] <holstein> confirm if its system wide, or just local user config
[23:02] <bkm> holstein: yeah, that might be filling up the partition, come to think of it. thx!
[23:24] <bkm> holstein: gmail looks fine in firefox - still trying to find some ~/.config/ files to get rid of...
[23:28] <bkm> holstein: thanks again, just obliterating browsing history did it.
[23:28] <holstein> bkm: :)