[00:13] <juan_> buenas noches
[00:27] <viky> .
[00:31] <prettyjane> Outstanding video by Scott Roberts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpLDV5G7VJc
[00:34] <polarbear> scott roberts seems like a madman to me
[00:35] <prettyjane> polarbear, The level of awareness exhibited in that one video alone is simply astounding.
[00:35] <prettyjane> The content I shared with you is a goldmine of knowledge.
[00:35] <polarbear> rather think not
[00:36] <prettyjane> polarbear, It's only 32 minutes so make some tea and try to hear him out in full.
[00:36] <prettyjane> He's a legendary figure for good reason.
[00:36] <polarbear> heard it all before,
[00:37] <prettyjane> I don't have a crush on him or anything like that. I just really appreciate the level of awareness he commands.
[00:37] <polarbear> oh wow, into propaganda?
[00:38] <prettyjane> polarbear, If you want to take it any further go to one of the chat channels.
[00:39] <polarbear> nah rather quit
[00:39] <prettyjane> polarbear, I received already 3 separate private messages thanking me for the share.
[00:41] <reisio> yeah that's not something I'm going to watch :p
[00:41] <reisio> could've saved me some time by saying it was just a youtube rant video
[00:41] <reisio> :D
[00:41] <prettyjane> It's not a rant video, reisio.
[00:41] <reisio> course it is
[00:41] <prettyjane> But it's not for everyone.
[00:41] <reisio> naturally :)
[00:42] <prettyjane> reisio, When I first discovered SR I too didn't get it. He has a rough appearance and looks like your everyday Joe ranting about not particularly interesting topics.
[00:43] <prettyjane> Turns out he's one of the most important minds of the 21st century.
[00:43] <prettyjane> Outstanding video by Scott Roberts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpLDV5G7VJc - an outstanding level of awareness is here exhibited.
[00:43] <reisio> appearance isn't the issue
[00:44] <OerHeks> prettyjane, not really related to ubuntu support, is it?
[00:44] <johnharris85> prettyjane, is that dude a neo-nazi?
[00:45] <OerHeks> lets move back ontopic, thanks
[00:45] <prettyjane> Yeah, let's. If you want to talk, take it to one of the chat channels.
[00:46] <prettyjane> But I just want to say that "neo-Nazi" is a control word. It's supposed to get you to close down to the thoughts and ideas of anyone who can be caged inside that level. It's a way of shutting down otherwise stimulating discourse.
[00:46] <johnharris85> OK pal.
[00:46] <prettyjane> level=label. #ubuntu-offtopic is typically where I prefer to take the banter and chat.
[00:47] <prettyjane> johnharris85, I PM'd you with an introductory interview. It explains it.
[00:48] <prettyjane> "These are all control words to keep you from thinking clearly."
[00:48] <polarbear> anyone got any optimisation tip for ubuntu on a normal dektop environment?
[00:48] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[00:49] <prettyjane> johnharris85, You whole idea of WWII history is likely totally wrong.
[00:50] <OerHeks> prettyjane, stop it
[00:50] <polarbear> do u relise your in an ubuntu channel prettyjane?
[01:36] <Limeade> Are there any guides for encrypted swap partition for Xenial? Or will guides for 14.04 still work?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Limeade: Slow presently, await here for a response, patience .
[01:50] <Limeade> Haha, already am, thanks Bashing.
[01:52] <Remind> Loving Ubuntu so far, thanks again for your help earlier Bashing-om
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Remind: Hey quite welcome, pleased we worked it out .
[01:53] <Remind> Any recommendations on ways to harden my system being on the internet? Firewall/anti-virus, disabling services?
[01:54] <Bashing-om> Remind: Desktop, nope. nothing to do , you are good as is . linux is a closed system .
[01:55] <Remind> Perfect :) Thank you so much
[01:55] <siva_machina> just use common sense
[01:56] <Bashing-om> !virus | Remind
[01:57] <Remind> Too easy! We're learning RedHat/CentOS in school and have been talking security in a network setting (disabling root access login, ssh, telnet, ftp, things of that nature)
[01:57] <Remind> Being new to linux, wasn't sure if there's other things to do now that we have internet access
[01:57] <Remind> Really do appreciate how helpful everyone is in here, absolutely love this community so far
[01:58] <Kow> Remind: Linux is not 100% secure as some may be falsely leading you to believe. Having said that, use common sense and you should be fine.
[01:59] <Kow> No OS is 100% secure when there is a user. :)
[01:59] <siva_machina> Kow agreed
[01:59] <siva_machina> user error is a  problem for any OS
[02:00] <fer_> hi
[02:05] <Cypher-Punk> My friend isn't that great with computers, but wants to revive his old desktop computer. How well would Ubuntu work with a 3.0ghz single core processor?
[02:06] <_unreal_> how would I stop a service from starting on bootup? I need to stop bluetooth, its hanging for some reason and I cant servicecrl stop it
[02:06] <_unreal_> because it hangs before I get to it
[02:08] <johnc4510> _unreal_: what desktop are you using
[02:08] <siva_machina> _unreal_ generally you can type start into your applications menu and the UI to change startup programs will appear
[02:09] <_unreal_> I cant. its hanging before it finishes booting
[02:09] <_unreal_> I have a cubox that is failing on bluetooth
[02:09] <_unreal_> during the early boot process. I need to stop the service from starting. with any luck that will at least get me to a prompt
[02:10] <Bashing-om> Cypher-Punk: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware .
[02:10] <Cypher-Punk> Bashing-om - I'll look into that. Thank you.
[02:11] <Bashing-om> Cypher-Punk: NP . https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[02:12]  * siva_machina prefers kde
[02:13]  * johnc4510 likes MATE
[02:13] <siva_machina> I like Mate also
[02:14] <elliot-59> hey guys im trying to get AOE3 working on ubuntu but i need a windows codec called l3codecx.ax, can't seem to find it anywhere online, can anyone help me out
[02:14] <johnc4510> if he could boot in rescue mode he could: killall blueman-applet
[02:15] <_unreal_> johnc4510, I cant get past boot. there for I need to mod the scripts that start bluetooth during boot
[02:15] <vic_> i need a little advise please.  I have installed ubuntu 14.04 on my brother's old pc yesterday, and it don't run smooth; i think it is because he only has on meg of ram.  will I have better luck if I install  xubuntu (version 16.04 desktop amd64)?
[02:16] <siva_machina> vic_ one meg?
[02:16] <siva_machina> you mean gig?
[02:16] <elliot-59> idk about xubuntu but im currently running lubuntu and it brought this old laptop back to life
[02:16] <vic_> excuse me,  one gig
[02:16] <BL4DE> Which file on gnome-shell should I edit to make htop from the applicaitons menu open in a different manner. I want to edit htop  exec launch parameters to          guake --show -n NEW_TAB -e htop
[02:16] <vic_> yes a little less than one gig of ram
[02:17] <siva_machina> vic_ You might. But I dought it.
[02:18] <vic_> is there some thing I could do to get better performance with his ubuntu 14.04 ?
[02:18] <siva_machina> I personally would only use standalone windowmanager like i3, awesome or Openbox on it
[02:19] <siva_machina> but the first two require messing around with config files
[02:19] <elliot-59> ^ if you like tilling wm this is the way to go
[02:21] <siva_machina> Welcome back vic_
[02:22] <vic_> sorry Siva, but my connection was broken
[02:23] <vic_> when you spoke of standalone windows manange,  like i3, awesome  or open box,  are those linux operating system,   somewhat siminar to ubuntu ?
[02:24] <_unreal_> what would be better on a netbook, xubuntu or lubuntu?
[02:24] <_unreal_> 2gb ram
[02:24] <_unreal_> single core atom
[02:24] <siva_machina> Window managers are generaly what you see as the decorations on your windows(where you close and minimize buttons resides.
[02:25] <siva_machina> In linux there are things called desktop environments. Preety much the user interface that lies on top of the OS
[02:26] <siva_machina> The one that comes with Ubuntu is called Unity
[02:26] <siva_machina> and certain window managers can be use similarly to Desktop environments
[02:27] <siva_machina> _unreal_ I say try both
[02:27] <siva_machina> which every runs the best for you. use it
[02:27] <_unreal_> hum
[02:27] <siva_machina> I have not personally gotten much into lxde myself
[02:27] <siva_machina> and I have lost interest in xfce
[02:27] <siva_machina> Ubuntu mate might also work for you
[02:28] <_unreal_> dubuntu mate? never heard of
[02:28] <siva_machina> https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[02:28] <OerHeks> single core atom .. sounds like it has a gma 450 too, poulsbo ..
[02:30] <BL4DE> nevermind I figured it out
[02:31] <vic_> okee thanks siva, i will chec https://ubuntu-mate.ort/    i got another question, if I  may.  my brother has a 64-bits computer.   Is it ok to install xubuntu i386 for 32 pits on his pc?
[02:32] <siva_machina> You can. But it will not take advantage of his cpu
[02:32] <siva_machina> But I suggest getting the 64 bit image
[02:32] <siva_machina> and install that
[02:33] <abstractmonkey> hey guys
[02:34] <abstractmonkey> I can't seem to get Flash player running on Chromium in my 64-bit ubuntu distro
[02:34] <vic_> okee Siva, thanks for your help
[02:34] <abstractmonkey> have you guys run into this problem before? Is so, do you have any suggestions?
[02:34] <siva_machina> !38g is 32bit. A form for 32 bit but it is 32 bit none the less
[02:34] <siva_machina> !386
[02:35] <siva_machina> absractmonkey no. have you grabed pepper flash from the repo?
[02:36] <abstractmonkey> yeah
[02:36] <siva_machina> I  just use Google Chrome. and I disable flash on there. I personally have no use for flash
[02:36] <abstractmonkey> I have a directory named flash-plugin in /usr/lib
[02:36] <siva_machina> except for the few rare cases
[02:37] <abstractmonkey> I like Kongregate
[02:37] <OerHeks> not all flash content will work
[02:37] <abstractmonkey> with libpepflashplayer.so
[02:37] <abstractmonkey> ah, why is that?
[02:38] <siva_machina> You have the package named pepperflashplugin-nonfree installed/
[02:38] <siva_machina> ?*
[02:38] <OerHeks> flash should die. or it is already dead, not banned completely yet
[02:38] <siva_machina> absractmonkey, was the question for me?
[02:39]  * siva_machina agrees with OerHeks
[02:39] <OerHeks> abstractmonkey, you run in DRM flash, chrome handles that well, only 64 bit
[02:39] <abstractmonkey> I didn't have that package installed
[02:39] <abstractmonkey> but I just did
[02:39] <abstractmonkey> let's see if that did the trick guys
[02:40] <abstractmonkey> awesome, that did it
[02:40] <abstractmonkey> thanks guys!
[02:40] <siva_machina> you're welcome
[02:43] <pathfinder> what is the benifit of this channel
[02:44] <vic_> Siva... I am downloading the ubuntu-mate 16.04 desktop-amd64_iso
[02:44] <OerHeks> Ubuntu support, see topic
[02:44] <vic_> from a torrent
[02:46] <siva_machina> vic_ ok
[02:47] <siva_machina> abstractmonkey, may I ask? Why not just use Chrome?
[02:57] <Peebee_> is this ch moving to a discord server
[03:01] <siva_machina> unlikely
[03:03] <User9> sup homies
[03:03] <cfhowlett> ubuntu support here User9
[03:24] <capum321> could one tell if irssi stops system from suspend?
[03:25] <Donohue> capum321, no
[03:25] <Donohue> As in it doesn't - usually.
[03:26] <capum321> Donohue: some other might then, but i should left only it open then
[03:27] <Donohue> capum321 it's why I run it in screen and detach it before I leave, so I don't end up disconnecting
[03:28] <capum321> i am not aknowledge to that? how....?
[03:29] <Donohue> https://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/
[03:34] <capum321> thanks, but "Screen is a wonderful program that creates a “session” in which several “windows” exist." - inside a bash?
[03:35] <capum321> ok shell prompt
[03:35] <capum321> but what would be a session, like another desktop?
[03:36] <Donohue> capum321, it allows you to detach and keep a session (or processes running in a terminal) running, without keeping the terminal session running
[03:37] <Donohue> So for example - you can detach, and then if you're on another computer, ssh in and reattach and continue your work
[03:38] <capum321> Donohue: do you once forget to logout or detach? what happens to suspend?
[03:38] <Donohue> detaching from a screen session is completely separate from logging out - but yes, if you log out your local session it'll kill your screen sessions too...
[03:39] <capum321> ok
[03:40] <capum321> i want to check again if it goes sleep. then I will try with screen and detach
[03:40] <capum321> thanks for the heads up
[03:40] <capum321> have a great time
[03:41] <siva_machina> I think tmux does something simillar
[03:42] <Donohue> siva_machina, yeah tmux is the primary alternative to screen
[03:42] <johnc4510> screen is your friend :-}
[03:43] <Evidlo> tmux is more sane than screen
[03:43] <Donohue> I'm in love with tmate - basically a direct connected ssh version of tmux
[03:43] <Donohue> Handy for remote assistance
[03:45] <johnc4510> Donohue: i will look at that later...long time screen user hates new things till he tries them
[03:46] <Donohue> https://tmate.io
[03:46] <Donohue> its not used in the same way as tmux / screen - but a handy tool forked from tmux
[03:50] <johnc4510> Donohue: i dont need the terminal sharing, but since it connects to their server, it would seem to add another security layer to ssl...?
[03:51] <Donohue> Nah - it just accepts a connection directly
[03:51] <Donohue> via ssl
[03:51] <johnc4510> ah...k thx
[03:53] <johnc4510> seems tmux is included in the install of MATE
[03:54] <Donohue> Yeah - wasn't installed by default in Ubuntu - might be included in the MATE version though
[03:54] <johnc4510> seems to be
[03:57] <johnc4510> hmm, you seem to be able to split the screen horz. and vert. in tmux
[03:58] <Donohue> Yar - and the modifiers are a lot more sane.
[03:59] <johnc4510> hmm...worth a look see then...thx
[04:00] <imthenachoman> hi guys. what tool do i use to map a multimedia key on my keyboard to a key combination like CTRL+F2?
[04:02] <Donohue> http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices imthenachoman
[04:03] <pinknpurpl> Brand new Scott Roberts and it's one of the best yet (IMO).
[04:03] <pinknpurpl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpLDV5G7VJc
[04:05] <johnc4510> imthenachoman: in MATE using clementine you go into the preference and set your own key bingings
[04:05] <johnc4510> bindings
[04:06] <johnc4510> so try your prefered player and look in preferences
[04:08] <jajoz> hello
[04:09] <cfhowlett> jajoz, ask your ubuntu question
[04:09] <jajoz> ._. i am running cbang
[04:09] <cfhowlett> no idea what that is and google is likewise ignorant
[04:09] <kirito_> -.-
[04:11] <johnc4510> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3948515
[04:11] <johnc4510> cbang ^^
[04:11] <cfhowlett> thank you johnc4510
[04:13] <johnc4510> cfhowlett: np
[04:19] <imthenachoman> Donohue: thanks
[04:35] <Smn> hey guys i need some help. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 64 bits
[04:36] <Smn> I want to know if there's a way to set both a gtk them and a qt theme. when I open a qt application it tries to adapt to my gtk theme, but it doesn't do a good job at it
[04:36] <Smn> it is specially bad with dark themes because I end up with ilegible text, so is there any way to manually set a theme for qt applications so it doesn't try to mimick my gtk theme?
[04:37] <Donohue> Smn - unfortunately that's a tale as old as time. GTK based WMs don't play nice with QT apps. You CAN use the gtk style theme with QT though to get *better* looking integration, but it's often not perfect
[04:38] <kotaro> anyone use geeknote ?
[04:38] <Smn> it just seems weird I can make qt load it looks from somewhere. so, anyway, how can I make it integrate better, Donohue?
[04:39] <kotaro> how to create new doc on geeknote? i use vim edotor btw
[04:39] <Donohue> Smn - this may help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10600675/ugly-qt-app-look-under-ubuntu
[04:39] <sorin-mihai_> what solution would be easy/quick to implement for connecting multiple sites over encrypted vpn as if they where in a single lan?
[04:40] <Donohue> qtconfig can help you tweak it
[04:40] <Donohue> sorin-mihai_, websites, or local env apps?
[04:40] <Donohue> kotaro, https://github.com/neilagabriel/vim-geeknote
[04:40] <kotaro> thx Donohue
[04:41] <Smn> thank you, i will check it
[04:41] <pinknpurpl> http://dont-tread-on.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Cartoon_LOL_04_rothschilds.png
[04:42] <sorin-mihai_> Donohue: local sites. 3 offices at the moment, each has 2 different lans, each has has wan. the main reason to connect them in a single vlan is to have a single shared storage, but it should be extendable to other servives, not just nfs and smb
[04:43] <Smn> would this work for qt5 applications?, Donohue
[04:43] <Donohue> Smn - you'll need to use updated equivs if anything
[04:44] <kotaro> i have an error while install plugin vim=geeknote
[04:44] <kotaro> like this : Error detected while processing /home/faris/.vim/bundle/vim-geeknote/plugin/vim_geeknote
[04:44] <kotaro> .vim:
[04:44] <kotaro> line    1:
[04:45] <kotaro> E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version: python import sys
[04:45] <kotaro> line    2:
[04:45] <Smn> Donohue, I can't run it. 'qtconfig: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtconfig': No such file or directory'. which is true, there's no qtconfig in that directory
[04:45] <Donohue> Did you install it first?
[04:46] <Donohue> Yeah, I guess you're right Smn - it was deprecated
[04:46] <kotaro> yes i have install already
[04:46] <Donohue> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/stylesheet.html
[04:46] <Donohue> Kotaro - sorry wasn't answering you.
[04:46] <kotaro> but still missing that python or a version
[04:46] <kotaro> ok donhue
[04:47] <Donohue> Okay - so you probably need to update or install python
[04:47] <Donohue> Your error message isn't verbose enough, but the readme there should let you know what the deps are.
[04:47] <kotaro> instal with pip or apt-get install ?
[04:47] <Donohue>  /shrug no idea - I've never done it before. I just googled it for you.
[04:48] <kotaro> i have some strict install about python-oauth2 before
[04:48] <Donohue> This isn't a Ubuntu question, strictly so you might have to do some research.
[04:48] <kotaro> when i login on geeknote that work fine
[04:48] <Donohue> Oops.
[04:49] <kotaro> i use xubuntu 16.04 LTS btw
[04:49] <kotaro> anyone have same problem about python install and tools ?
[04:49] <Donohue> Is there anything else contained in the error message?
[04:49] <Donohue> Does it specify any deps you might be missing?
[04:50] <Donohue> Have you searched for your error message on Google?
[04:50] <Donohue> Have you checked your perms for your python env?
[04:50] <kotaro> wait gime a minnut
[05:00] <blackball> is there any way to use validity fingerprint scanners?
[05:06] <Donohue> blackball, http://askubuntu.com/questions/442838/driver-for-validity-sensors-fingerprint-scanner
[05:07] <blackball> Donohue: what scanner is that?
[05:08] <Donohue> No clue - you didn't specify a model.
[05:08] <blackball> Donohue: vs70 iirc
[05:09] <Donohue> Can you run lsusb and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <blackball> 	HP Fingerprint Sensor with chip DigitalPersona VFS471
[05:09] <blackball> Donohue: on windows 8.1 right now
[05:09] <Donohue> Welp - go further in that thread, and see if your output matches any of the IDs there
[05:09] <blackball> I got no output to look at...
[05:09] <blackball> ; [ ;
[05:10] <blackball> Also you know anything about talking to the TPM?
[05:10] <Donohue> There's a supported readers list.
[05:10] <Donohue> I can't help you any more until we have the ID :P
[05:10] <Donohue> And no idea about TPM - sorry.
[05:10] <blackball> WOO
[05:11] <blackball> Looks like I'm supported!
[05:11] <Donohue> Woo!
[05:11] <blackball> At least it looks like it based on a bit of Googling
[05:12] <Donohue> Good luck!
[05:12] <blackball> Time to install LXDE on Ubuntu
[05:12] <blackball> LUbuntu is hideous
[05:56] <bruce_dev> Hey guys, i'm setting up my server at linode.com and have a question. I am confused on what updating the etc/hosts actually does..I tried googling it but I must be dumb or need an even more simplified answer.
[05:56] <bruce_dev> If anyone has any free time to help me understand just ping me, i'll try not to answer too many questions. Time is value
[05:56] <bruce_dev> valuable
[05:56] <polarbear> cant be dumb if u got that far, but im severless outa luck never worked on one and wouldnt kno where to start
[06:00] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: Are you supposed to "update" the /etc/hosts as per something to do with the configuration of your server ON linode, or something else?
[06:01] <bruce_dev> https://www.linode.com/docs/getting-started#setting-the-hostname YankDownUnder
[06:01] <bruce_dev> The reason I am confused is
[06:01] <bruce_dev> why am I setting the public ip address they give me onto itself
[06:01] <bruce_dev> in its own host file
[06:01] <bruce_dev> and won't this be useless once I link the public ip to a registered domain name?
[06:02] <bruce_dev> I am new to ubuntu in general, let alone web servers. But I really didn't want to use a shared host.
[06:02] <Ben64> the hostname is what your server will refer to itself as
[06:02] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: Without knowing exactly how "Linode" does things, I can only state that following through with the video is probably the absolute best thing to go with...they've obviously stuck it there for a reason...
[06:02] <bruce_dev> i'm using ubuntu 16.4 or whatever btw
[06:02] <Ben64> like when you log in it'll be user@hostname:~$
[06:03] <bruce_dev> ah
[06:03] <Ben64> and you want /etc/hosts to match or else sudo won't work properly
[06:03] <bruce_dev> but
[06:03] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: As per what Ben64 is saying, the machine kinda has to know who IT is...can't have a server with an identity crisis! ;)
[06:03] <bruce_dev> so
[06:03] <bruce_dev> its hostname
[06:03] <bruce_dev> is different than localhost
[06:03] <Ben64> right
[06:03] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: Si, oui, da, ja
[06:04] <bruce_dev> alright, well I have alot to learn so I won't question it. I've only done virtual hosting on my windows 7
[06:04] <bruce_dev> I think I was getting this confused with setting up a domain
[06:04] <Ben64> it could be called tomatojuice or whatever you like really
[06:04] <YankDownUnder> Call it SUSHI! yay!
[06:04] <bruce_dev> alright
[06:04] <bruce_dev> lowercase sushi it is
[06:05] <bruce_dev> as I really don't care
[06:05] <bruce_dev> lol
[06:05] <Abe_> rm: cannot remove blabla.mp4 Input/output error
[06:06] <bruce_dev> Thanks Ben64
[06:06] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: Some folks (system operators) tend to follow a theme for their servers/boxes - for me, from the beginning, I use Ancient Egyptian gods...other folks will use cartoon names, or whatever - in some production environments, the server name follows form with the function of the machine...so, be creative. AND logical.
[06:06] <siva_machina> or krap
[06:07] <bruce_dev> how can your hostname be named after an egyptian god yet still be logical?
[06:07] <Abe_> cannot check my external hdd with smart how can i figure out if my external hdd is still good? it's in ntfs file format too though
[06:07] <Ben64> anubis - god of the underworld - server in basement
[06:07] <bruce_dev> the function of this machine will be to host websites
[06:08] <siva_machina> finally the sspamming of people joing/leaving has slowed down
[06:08] <bruce_dev> Ubuntu is too large ;)
[06:08] <siva_machina> it's....so ...BIG
[06:09] <bruce_dev> I work at burger king
[06:09] <bruce_dev> and they use some form of ubuntu I believe
[06:09] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: whopperwithcheese
[06:09] <bruce_dev> when they boot up the systems, I see the ubuntu penguin load up on the screens atleast
[06:09] <Abe_> is there no way to remove a file with input output error. i cannot format the hdd cuz all my files are on it. sometimes it tells me I cannot rename the file even though I want to delete it
[06:10] <YankDownUnder> Abe_: If the file is corrupt, you might have an issue. If the file system is "read only" you might have issues as well...
[06:10] <bruce_dev> YankDownUnder, i was gonna just go with sushi, but after you mentioned the logical bit
[06:10] <bruce_dev> what would be a good logical name for a web server
[06:10] <Bashing-om> Abe_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step is one way .
[06:10] <siva_machina> dumbpipe
[06:10] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: Burger King => Some type of "meat" - "sushi" or "sashimi" might not be a good thing... :)
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: What about "ringofonions"
[06:11] <bruce_dev> hell no we are not doing a burger king here
[06:11] <bruce_dev> I want to be able to quit soon :)
[06:11] <bruce_dev> stressful when the girls bitch all the time lol
[06:12] <bruce_dev> alright, i'm going to choose a weather element
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: That's normal..."women = bitching/moaning/whinging/complaining" - fact of life.
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> "eyeofthestorm"
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> :)
[06:12] <bruce_dev> they can be super friendly
[06:12] <bruce_dev> but once they get stressed out they will take it out on everyone but the higher ups
[06:13] <Abe_> :( my nice hdd is going bad i think. sometimes i'm able to copy files on it sometimes it gives me weird error messages like errornr5. but yes i am still able to read from it. so I need to buy a new one unfortunately.
[06:13] <aurialLoop> gotta stop going after crazy bitches..there are lovely chilled out females around
[06:14] <bruce_dev> Trying to think of what those elements would even be called, water, air, lightning, fire, earth, stuff like that.
[06:14] <bruce_dev> Reminds me of avatar
[06:14] <bruce_dev> aurialLoop, not going after them, simply co workers
[06:14] <YankDownUnder> My next wife is going to be a Buddhist.
[06:14] <bruce_dev> I thought the one was hot at first though, but after being around her for almost a year
[06:14] <bruce_dev> the attractiveness has worn off a bit
[06:15] <aurialLoop> lol
[06:15] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: In many instances, once they open their mouths the attractiveness vanishes...
[06:15] <bruce_dev> I need to get the social confidence before i'd ever ask a woman out though, I'm simply not dating matarial financially, socially, personality, and emotionally. But I am getting off topic now lol
[06:15] <bruce_dev> YankDownUnder, yea agreed
[06:16] <YankDownUnder> I've been married a few times...(still haven't learned my lesson)
[06:16] <Abe_> YankDownUnder: xD
[06:17] <bruce_dev> YankDownUnder, how old?
[06:17] <siva_machina> luckily my options aren't restricted to gender
[06:17] <bruce_dev> that goes for anyone, but..boobs
[06:17] <YankDownUnder> siva_machina: You are lucky on that...
[06:17] <biegler> hola
[06:18] <bruce_dev> is it worth
[06:18] <bruce_dev> the hassle
[06:18] <bruce_dev> lmao
[06:18] <biegler> alguien habla español
[06:19] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: 53.
[06:19] <bruce_dev> I hope I will be like you one day
[06:20] <bruce_dev> working with things like this
[06:20] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: Broken, worn down and living in Australia?
[06:20] <bruce_dev> I meant
[06:20] <bruce_dev> lmao
[06:21] <bruce_dev> please
[06:21] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: I've been an independent consultant since 1986 - sprinkled with times doing other strange things - but always coming back to the same thingo...breaking and fixing computers/servers...and networks...
[06:22] <Abe_> i disconnect the hdd now and will get me a new one. copy all files to it. not using the hdd is probably the best option before it gets worse. until i can copy the files to a different device
[06:22] <bruce_dev> Just meant working with something I like doing which is technology for me, not sure yet if it'll be servers like ubuntu, web development, or software engineering
[06:22] <aurialLoop> I've been with my lady for 7 years now, still not married. Probably going to keep it that way
[06:22] <bruce_dev> the fact your messing with ubuntu at 53 is neat
[06:22] <YankDownUnder> bruce_dev: The fact that I was messing with linux in 1992 and 93 was "more neat"...
[06:22] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic is for chatting
[06:23] <bruce_dev> meh I joined the channel
[06:31] <viju> Hi, I am not able to install lib32bz2-1.0
[06:32] <viju> Actually, I am trying to install latest android-studio. It needs some libraries of which this is not in the repository. I am running ubuntu 16 64-bit
[06:39] <YankDownUnder> viju: http://www.ubuntumaniac.com/2016/04/install-android-studio-20-on-ubuntu.html
[06:43] <viju> YankDownUnder, thanks.
[06:44] <YankDownUnder> viju: If you've installed all the extra PPA repo's, everything should be "functioning properly"
[06:49] <viju> Is that ppa safe?
[06:50] <YankDownUnder> viju: It's safe to assume that if the article was written with Ubuntu's authorisation, it's safe.
[06:50] <auronandace> you could ask that of any ppa
[06:53] <viju>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-34-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2328M CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 828MHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.7GiB, 52.1% free ** Disk: Total: 163.4GiB, 17.9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express
[06:53] <viju> Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 1h 11m 54s **
[06:59] <viju> YankDownUnder, does that mean if I download from the ppa it'd download all the libraries it need, that won't be there otherwise?
[07:00] <viju> Like I am doing right now, downloading directly from the website and they ask me download extra libraries to run it on 64 bit/
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> viju: Should do
[07:03] <viju> Okay
[07:25] <filsuf> hallo ... anybodyy has issue with installer cannot read the partition table and thinks it is empty?
[07:36] <Phryq> what's the easiest way to set up PGP in Ubuntu?
[07:36] <Phryq> like a simple App that deals with PGP messages?
[07:47] <HypothesisFrog> having real problems playing videos made on my phone using ubuntu 16.04. NVideo Quatra NVS 290, NVIDIA binary driver version 340.96. Videos keep stalling and spluttering.
[07:47] <HypothesisFrog> I made the videos on my phone, trying to use them on ubuntu 16.04
[07:48] <alkisg> What's the output of: file /path/to/video
[07:48] <HypothesisFrog> Tried using parole and vlc
[07:49] <HypothesisFrog> alkisg the the video file?
[07:49] <alkisg> yes
[07:49] <HypothesisFrog> alkisg VID_20160814_002235.mp4: ISO Media, MP4 v2 [ISO 14496-14]
[07:50] <alkisg> ISO media?... anyway, when you're trying to play the file, check the cpu usage. Does it occupy a full core?
[07:52] <HypothesisFrog> alkisg yep. 186% of cpu.
[07:53] <HypothesisFrog> that's if I (try) to run it with totem.
[07:53] <alkisg> HypothesisFrog: what's the output of this? grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo
[07:54] <HypothesisFrog> alkisg
[07:54] <HypothesisFrog> model name	: Pentium(R) Dual-Core  CPU      E6500  @ 2.93GHz
[07:54] <HypothesisFrog> model name	: Pentium(R) Dual-Core  CPU      E6500  @ 2.93GHz
[07:55] <alkisg> Hmmm not too bad... https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+E6500+%40+2.93GHz&id=1104
[07:56] <alkisg> HypothesisFrog: can you do any one of this methods and upload the video info to pastebin? http://askubuntu.com/questions/303454/get-information-about-a-video-from-command-line-tool
[07:59] <HypothesisFrog> alkisg how's this? http://pastebin.com/czsXEg19
[07:59] <alkisg> HypothesisFrog: wow, 3840x2160, yeah that's too much for your cpu
[08:00] <alkisg> HypothesisFrog: either lower the video resolution, or search for gpu accelerated decoding, like vdpau
[08:00] <crazyhorse18> hi.. i'm trying to boot up my machine and i'm getting ata3: COMREST failed (errno=-16)
[08:00] <alkisg> ...if you want other casual users to be able to watch it, do lower the video resolution
[08:00] <HypothesisFrog> alkisg works fine on my phone.
[08:01] <alkisg> HypothesisFrog: yes your phone does have gpu accelerated decoding, i.e. it's using special hardware for that
[08:01] <alkisg> HypothesisFrog: nvidia also has special hardware for decoding, you can google for vdpau on how to enable it
[08:01] <crazyhorse18> i'm also getting ata2: link is slow to respond.. what should i try?
[08:02] <alkisg> crazyhorse18: for starters, try to boot from a live usb stick or cd?
[08:02] <crazyhorse18> yeah i can get it to boot in recovery mode
[08:03] <crazyhorse18> but i'm still unable to see the hdd it was complaining about... is there anything i can do to recover it?
[08:03] <alkisg> is that a separate hdd that has eg. /home or media there?
[08:04] <crazyhorse18> i'ts a separate hdd.. but it has no /home etc in it
[08:04] <alkisg> if it's not in /etc/fstab, it shouldn't prevent the machine from booting...
[08:05] <alkisg> Anyway first thing to check is hardware, cables, weird sounds from the disk, or putting it to an external enclosure or some other pc etc
[08:05] <crazyhorse18> yeah it is in /etc/fstab
[08:05] <alkisg> If the disk is dead, there's little you can do
[08:05] <alkisg> Remove it from fstab to be able to boot
[08:05] <crazyhorse18> ok.. i've tried it on another ata
[08:05] <deadpool_> is there any tool like empathy for ubuntu 16
[08:06] <crazyhorse18> just delete the towl lines?
[08:06] <alkisg> crazyhorse18: or put a # in front of it to comment it out
[08:06] <crazyhorse18> yeah ok
[08:06] <crazyhorse18> i'll try stick it in an external enclosure
[08:07] <crazyhorse18> can hdd repair places possibly repair it?
[08:07] <crazyhorse18> i.e. take the platters out and stick them in a new drive?
[08:07] <alkisg> does it create a device node? like /dev/sdb?
[08:08] <alkisg> platters out, no, too difficult, they'll charge you a lot per gb for that
[08:08] <crazyhorse18> it's hard to tell.. there's 4 of them here
[08:08] <crazyhorse18> alkisg: sda sda1 sda2 sda3
[08:09] <alkisg> ls -l /dev/sd?
[08:09] <alkisg> If that's only sda, then no, it's not easy to repair it
[08:17] <miraceti> salve a tutti
[08:23] <Wanderer-> I open up compiz but this plugin is not installed  -> http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Put  , how can i map shortcut keys to move something between monitors? Currently i have only 2 monitors.
[08:34] <existenze> Hey there.
[08:35] <existenze> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can't play a thing with vlc.
[08:35] <existenze> What am I missing?
[08:39] <fklinguista> Can anybody help me out over in #ubuntu-server ?
[08:40] <Light_Ray_S> !n
[08:40] <fklinguista> I think I have a unique port-forwarding issue
[08:41] <miraceti> !pass
[08:52] <alkisg> If I have just joined an #ubuntu-* channel, how can I ask ubuntulog to show me the last lines of the chat? Normally it's "!last --no-limit #channel", but ubuntulog doesn't seem to answer...
[08:52] <alkisg> !last
[08:52] <alkisg> \last
[08:53] <bazhang> !984
[08:53] <bazhang> !1984
[08:53] <bazhang> alkisg, ^
[08:54] <alkisg> The channel logs are updated too infrequently to be helpful for my use case
[08:54] <alkisg> (i.e.. trying to catch up when joining a room)
[08:54] <bazhang> hourly alkisg
[08:54] <alkisg> Yup, too infrequently... :-/
[08:54] <alkisg> E.g. we update irclogs.ltsp.org every few minutes
[08:55] <alkisg> I wonder though why !last doesn't work; all supybot clones should have that, shouldn't they?
[08:56] <ikonia> because that plugin is disabled
[08:56] <bazhang> alkisg, if you mean lastlog, thats your irc client
[08:57] <alkisg> bazhang: !last is a command to the bot, it tells it to PM the user with the last lines of the chat
[08:57] <ikonia> alkisg: it's disabled
[08:57] <alkisg> ikonia: thanks, can I try to file a bug report somewhere for that to be enabled? Or is there a reason for that?
[08:57] <ikonia> no
[08:57] <ikonia> it's disabled becuase we don't want it enabled
[08:57] <ikonia> it's not a bug
[08:58] <alkisg> Use case: (11:40:00 πμ) fklinguista: Can anybody help me out over in #ubuntu-server ?
[08:58] <alkisg> ==> no way for me to help him without him re-pasting everything
[08:58] <ikonia> repasting everything ?
[08:58] <ikonia> just talk to him in #ubuntu-server
[08:58] <alkisg> I see what he asks. Then I join #ubuntu-server. But of course I don't see what he already asked there.
[08:58] <alkisg> So I would join the channel, and ask him to re-paste his questions etc
[08:59] <miraceti> hello to all
[08:59] <alkisg> And if it's just a couple of lines, sure it's doable, but if it's 100 lines of chatting, it's not
[08:59] <ikonia> alkisg: thats your last log
[08:59] <ikonia> type /last in yout client
[08:59] <alkisg> ikonia: "unknown command" in my pidgin
[08:59] <ikonia> not really an irc client
[08:59] <alkisg> Also, the client doesn't know what was said in #ubuntu-server *before* I joined
[09:00] <alkisg> So what you're asking of my irc client is impossible
[09:00] <ikonia> just need to depend on the user to clearly explain his problem then
[09:00] <bazhang> thus the hourly updates of ubuntulogs alkisg
[09:00] <ikonia> iit's an edge case situation
[09:00] <alkisg> bazhang: I doubt the user wants to wait there for 1 hour for me to reply
[09:00] <anelito> hello
[09:01] <alkisg> bazhang, ikonia, I haven't heard any reason why !last is disabled though, is there any?
[09:01] <anelito> anyone here
[09:01] <anelito> ?
[09:01] <ikonia> alkisg: yes, we don't want people using the bot to track people/conversation, it's just an infobot, nothing more
[09:01] <alkisg> ikonia: I don't get it; for channels that are already logged publicly, what harm can it do?!
[09:02] <ikonia> alkisg: the bot has to parse and spit out lougs
[09:02] <ikonia> logs
[09:02] <bazhang> alkisg, the ubuntulog covers that, it's disable so as not make the channel unusable
[09:02] <ikonia> it's not there for that,
[09:02] <anelito> I am using an ubuntu VM to run a VPN and I would like to know if its possible to delete user browser data when forwarding the requests
[09:02] <anelito> thank you
[09:02] <alkisg> ikonia, !last is implemented in RAM afaik, not parsing logs, doesn't it?
[09:02] <ikonia> alkisg: even worse then, it would have to keep multiple channels chat in ram
[09:03] <alkisg> ikonia, I believe it already does, you just disable allowing the user to see them
[09:03] <ikonia> alkisg: it doesn't it keeps a very small buffer for ban logging, nothing else
[09:03] <alkisg> ikonia, bazhang, anyway, I think I made my case and I wasn't able to convince you; I'll just be a bit less helpful, no big issue there
[09:03] <ikonia> alkisg: sounds good
[09:03] <alkisg> Thank you
[09:04] <anelito> can anyone help me with my question? Thanks :)
[09:05] <blackbird1> Hi all
[09:05] <ikonia> anelito: not quite sure what the vpn has to do with removing user browser data ?
[09:05] <nikre> how can i fix wrong time from command line? ntpdate fails.sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com\n28 Aug 04:38:15 ntpdate[3325]: no servers can be used, exiting
[09:06] <ikonia> nikre: you need to use a server it can talk to - or fix your network connectivity why it can't talk out
[09:06] <blackbird1> How to use options in regex e.g. if [[ $text =~ /^.*(formation).*$/i ]]  ?
[09:06] <anelito> ikon I would like to know if there's a software that can run on the VM and delete browser data
[09:06] <The> hi
[09:07] <anelito> or at least replace them with standard (act like a proxy)
[09:07] <Guest79699> ok
[09:07] <Guest79699> hun????
[09:07] <ikonia> anelito: the browser is held on the client
[09:07] <ikonia> not the vpn
[09:07] <nikre> ikonia, oh you are right. somehow oragepi has no internet connectivity. thanks.
[09:08] <Guest79699> hello anyone there
[09:08] <nikre> how can i remove the docker installation remains on the ifconfig output "lxcbr0"
[09:08] <anelito> ikonia I know, but most VPN paid services clear users' browser data to increase anonymity
[09:08] <Guest79699> wait
[09:08] <ikonia> anelito: no they don't
[09:09] <ikonia> anelito: I've never heard of a vpn clearing a users browser data
[09:09] <Guest79699> i need to know how to program in C++ i nubuntu mate
[09:09] <Guest79699> in ubuntu mate
[09:09] <anelito> ikonia: are you sure? They claim to do. Maybe because they use Tor
[09:09] <Guest79699> what
[09:09] <ikonia> anelito: what vpn claims to do this ?
[09:10] <Guest79699> mmmm deep web
[09:10] <Guest79699> interesting
[09:10] <ikonia> what?
[09:10] <Guest79699> nothing
[09:11] <Guest79699> tor is related to deep web ikonia
[09:11] <crazyhorse18> so if the hdd won't mount in either ubuntu or under osx.. or even appear in /dev/sd?  ... is the only option to get hdd pro's to try and fix the drive?
[09:11] <ikonia> tor is nothing to do with "deep web"
[09:11] <ikonia> it's just an anonymouse proxy service thats not really that anonymou
[09:11] <ikonia> s
[09:11] <bazhang> Guest79699, do you have an ubuntu support issue
[09:11] <Guest79699> it is
[09:11] <Guest79699> i just used it
[09:12] <Guest79699> no
[09:12] <Guest79699> i have
[09:12] <bazhang> Guest79699, please take the chit chat elsewhere
[09:12] <Guest79699> i have
[09:12] <Guest79699> bazhang
[09:13] <Guest79699> how to program in C++ in Ubuntu
[09:13] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic please Guest79699
[09:13] <Guest79699> ok
[09:13] <anelito> ikonia: hidemyass support said it
[09:13] <thinky> hi
[09:13] <ikonia> anelito: so you're actually talking about the http browser headers
[09:13] <ikonia> not the actual user data that's held on the machine ?
[09:14] <thinky> i am running on ubuntu 16.04 64bit and screen is flickering oftenly
[09:14] <thinky>   Operating System: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS             Kernel: Linux 4.4.0-34-generic       Architecture: x86-64
[09:14] <thinky> i made google search and it is possible about kernel version?
[09:14] <thinky> can somebody help me to fix this issue please?
[09:15] <thinky> screen flickers for a moment like blinking just in a second
[09:18] <anelito> ikonia: yes, about browser type etc
[09:19] <thinky> hello?
[09:22] <thinky> how can i upgrade kernel?
[09:22] <z3r0x_> sudo apt-get upgrade i think
[09:23] <anelito> ikonia: I guess using squid may be a viable solution
[09:23] <z3r0x_> you now how to get the setoolkit on ubuntu
[09:26] <Kabe0|2> Does anyone know if KVM Filesystem passthrough works with FreeBSD Guests?
[09:26] <z3r0x_> Nope sry :(
[09:27] <thinky> no it doesnt find update
[09:27] <thinky>  Kernel: Linux 4.4.0-34-generic
[09:27] <thinky> they say 4.6 is released
[09:27] <thinky> if so i want to upgrad
[09:27] <thinky> e
[09:29] <thinky> anybody please?
[09:32] <z3r0x_> "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:38] <blackbird1> How to use options in regex e.g. if [[ $text =~ /^.*(formation).*$/i ]]  ?
[09:38] <blackbird1> !seen
[09:43] <jarnos> unattended-upgrades is running on my installation disk (USB), persistent live, which I created by mkusb. I wonder, if it is intentional. Kernel updates on Flash drive are very slow...
[09:44] <jarnos> Ans I guess the filesystem may run out of inodes.
[09:45] <Bellator> Guys, what tasks should I take up to become more efficient with linux?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> !manual| Bellator start here
[09:46] <Bellator> Cheers, will check it out MonkeyDust
[09:46] <polarbear> for me bellator i found googling optimisation, and following a few tips helpful, also try removing the iso disk image from your usb drive, found that helpful on fdisk etc n such
[09:47] <ansari> hello everyone
[09:47] <polarbear> hi
[09:48] <Bellator> Polarcraft, good tip thank you!
[09:49] <antipsychiatry> Hello ubuntu channel!    What u do for the secret service not using MIND READING against us ?????????????????????????????? How can we protect against their mind reading technology??????
[09:49] <polarbear> diskkonect
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> polarbear  she's a troll, don't feed trolls
[09:50] <polarbear> oh ok dont go sudo sh delete?
[09:50] <ansari> is it possible to use wifi direct in ubuntu? Windows 10 support wifi direct but i think that Linux doesn't support it.
[09:50] <antipsychiatry> Monkey? Tell me after u read stopeg.com
[09:50] <doonie> hey all, getting this after upgraded to 16.04, not sure what to try to reinstall http://paste.ubuntu.com/23101741/
[09:51] <Ben64> antipsychiatry: stop coming here and saying this dumb stuff. nobody cares. it's not on topic. go away
[09:51] <polarbear> wifi as in the one from the isp ansari?
[09:51] <polarbear> or wifi in home public systems routers?
[09:52] <ansari> wifi direct which is also knows as miracast is used to connect to wifi devices directly without any modem or router.
[09:52] <polarbear> oh ok
[09:53] <tomreyn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct
[09:53] <viju> Hey, which is lighter on memory and still faster - classic gnome or xfce?
[09:53] <viju> unity is taking away a lot of memory I need
[09:53] <ansari> you can share media files for example you can cast your video from your pc to TV with WiFi direct. unfortunately it is not supported in Linux
[09:54] <szb> Ben64: Did you manually install some Python related packages? (meaning something not from the repos?)
[09:54] <Ben64> szb: wrong person
[09:55] <doonie> szb: no idea, I did have massive problem upgrading to 16.04 cause of python. The error is insane looing at it, it mixes pyyhon 2,7 3 and 3,5?
[09:55] <szb> viju: You can try Mate or XFCE (the second supposedly being a bit lighter on RAM). I wouldn't go for the Gnome Classic, in my experience it's not different standard Gnome3.
[09:55] <ansari> so Polarbear and tomreyn how can we use wifi direct in linux?
[09:56] <thinky> hello
[09:56] <polarbear> im currently running  4gbram and a ssd in normal desktop environment, would u recommend me adjusting swappiness to a lower figure and apply write cache settings to disk?
[09:56] <thinky> how can i upgrade kernel??
[09:56] <polarbear> not sure never really used direct wifi ansari new concept to me
[09:57] <Ben64> thinky: comes with regular updates if you use the update manager, or you can do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:58] <thinky> Ben64: current version -->   Operating System: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS             Kernel: Linux 4.4.0-34-generic
[09:58] <thinky> but i want to upgrade to kernel 4.6
[09:58] <tomreyn> ansari: same here, i never needed it so far. but apparently you can recompile wpa_supplicant with modified oiptions and it will support it.
[09:59] <Ben64> thinky: that isn't supported (yet)
[09:59] <szb> thinky: here's a short how-to video, but be advised that those kernels are not supported and you will have to take care of any updates yourself once you've swapped the regular kernel for a newer one!
[09:59] <szb> thinky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIJUZ_AvXOg
[09:59] <thinky> i am having screen flickering issue, it happens sometimes in a second like blinking
[09:59] <viju> szb, Thanks.
[10:00] <thinky> i read somewhere that kernel upgrade is fixing that
[10:00] <tomreyn> ansari: http://askubuntu.com/questions/258027/how-to-get-wifi-direct-wifi-p2p-on-my-hp-dm1-laptop/304352#304352
[10:01] <thinky> did anyone face with screen flickering issue like me ?
[10:01] <ansari> tomreyn i think that poeple who want to use linux as a desktop operating system, they expect this protocol (wifidirect) to work
[10:01] <polarbear> nope, what monitor u using?
[10:01] <Ben64> thinky: you can use a kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but they are not supported at all
[10:01] <tomreyn> polarbear: i don't recommend increasing swap to > 2 or maybe 3 GB there. you never want to swap to disk. get more ram if needed.
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> ansari  if they are aware that it exists at all
[10:02] <thinky> if it is not supported i dont want to take the risk :S
[10:02] <viju> szb, now I got 2 options here, xfce or xubuntu-desktop, which one? I have used xfce but not xubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <thinky> but this flicker annoys me
[10:02] <szb> doonie: I have actually no idea what exactly is going on here... So my only guess would be to maybe try purging and reinstalling 'apt-xapian-index' and after that all instances of 'python*' ... but again, no clue how smart an idea that is! :3
[10:02] <polarbear> yer thanks
[10:02] <szb> viju: are you installing from the mini.iso?
[10:03] <szb> viju: or simply installing xfce on top of 16.04 with Unity?
[10:03] <doonie> szb:  was a problem with PATH, got help in the python chan :) thanks for helping though
[10:03] <antipsychiatry> Stop the gang stalking of Mossad bastards !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These bastards must be jailed !!!!!!!! Www.stopeg.com
[10:03] <tomreyn> thinky: which graphics card or gpu do you have there, which ubuntu version?
[10:04] <thinky> tomreyn: ubuntu 16.04.1  graphics intel integrated graphics
[10:04] <tomreyn> !op
[10:04] <viju> szb, it's a 1604 with Unity, installing a lightweight desktop environment as I need those chunks of memory for development work.
[10:05] <ansari> is there any personal Assistant like Apple's Siri or Micorosoft's cortana available for linux
[10:05] <viju> Sorry but Siri and Cortana both need to be improved, just a humble opinion.
[10:07] <polarbear> well im impressed
[10:07] <thinky> depressed maybe? :p
[10:07] <polarbear> got pms from ansari, rather stupid really
[10:08] <tomreyn> ansari: it's my experience that most linux users prefer not to upload their voice profile to the cloud and (potentially) have it analyzed there.
[10:08] <szb> viju: Ah, I see! Ok, two things then: You might want to consider going with vanilla Xubuntu since XFCE is quite nicely configured there already. On a second note: Installing XFCE (or the customized xubuntu-desktop) might pull in some additional libraries and dependencies that you might not need but that will want some of your resources.
[10:08] <ansari> tomreyn ok. it is good for privacy.
[10:09] <thinky> guys please how can i fix this screen flicker problem?
[10:09] <thinky> it mostly happens when i move my mouse
[10:09] <szb> viju: If you prefer minimal resource usage and don't care about looks too much you might even want to consider Lubuntu (with frugal LXDE)!
[10:09] <thinky> i did all necessary updates but it didnt fix
[10:09] <thinky> i dont know what s wrong
[10:09] <polarbear> try diff resolution?
[10:10] <thinky> why polarbear ?
[10:10] <polarbear> dunno have no idea
[10:11] <thinky> resolution is fine
[10:11] <thinky> native res.
[10:11] <viju> szb, I see 85mb of download for xfce and 200+ for xubuntu desktop, seems like it's the latter one has more things that I might not need it
[10:11] <viju> Tell me if it's wrong
[10:12] <tomreyn> ansari: these services operate cloud based, since it takes a lot of computing resources to do proper voice recognition and to ptovide useful responses. I'm not aware of another operating system which runs a good personal assistant on a single desktop computer.
[10:12] <isotester> hello!
[10:12] <doonie> is python3 the standard version in 16.04?
[10:12] <tomreyn> ansari: there is lucida, though, if you plan to setup something similar using linux, though
[10:12] <polarbear> wow getting heaps of random pms ever since been here im 100% reptillian dna
[10:13] <szb> viju: you're right! xfce will pull just the desktop, while xubuntu-desktop will probably want to install some additional applications as well!
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> polarbear  resistance was futile, you have been assimilated
[10:14] <polarbear> oh nvm, lets push on, anyone got any helpful tips on optimising ubuntu?
[10:14] <viju> I think I'll go with xfce unless it does something wrong
[10:14] <szb> thinky: https://askubuntu.com/a/752808 Some possible ways to go here, I guess!
[10:15] <tomreyn> thinky: "graphics intel integrated graphics" is very generic. can you provide the output of this command: lspci -knnv | fgrep VGA
[10:15] <codfection> how to add files to unity launcher?
[10:16] <szb> viju: Sure thing! XFCE is quite reliable (though I can't bring myself to get around its clunkiness here and there)! :)
[10:16] <codfection> or even file shortcut
[10:16] <doonie> 2,7 thx :9
[10:16] <thinky> ok
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> codfection  navigate to    /usr/share/applications/ .... drag icon to launcher
[10:16] <thinky> tomreyn: $ lspci -knnv | fgrep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[10:17] <codfection> MonkeyDust, what if the icon is not there
[10:18] <szb> codfection: If there is no .desktop file for the application you want to add to the launcher, you can create one yourself. Take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> polarbear  some tips .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23101950/
[10:18] <codfection> thanks szb
[10:19] <tomreyn> thinky: that's a chipset from 2010, right?
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> codfection  if the easy way doesnt work, try yhe hard way.. scroll down .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/125842/how-to-add-folder-or-file-to-launcher
[10:19] <thinky> yes tomreyn
[10:19] <_mak> how can this df -h be possible:
[10:19] <_mak> Filesystem                   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[10:19] <_mak> /dev/mapper/vostro--vg-root  913G  886G     0 100% /
[10:19] <thinky> on i5 560m cpu
[10:20] <tomreyn> thinky: intel gpu's weren't too good back then. you should replace it by some other hardware, or add a dedicated graphics card
[10:20] <thinky> tomreyn: it is a laptop i cant replace
[10:20] <tomreyn> thinky: sure you can replace a latop by a new one ;)
[10:20] <thinky> i wish laptop gpus were replacable :S
[10:21] <thinky> lol tomreyn but i love this one it is a classic ThinkPad !
[10:22] <tomreyn> thinky: you could try to either enable or disable vblank / vsync - *might* help
[10:22] <thinky> what s that ?
[10:22] <thinky> maybe new updates fix that issue
[10:23] <thinky> i better wait
[10:23] <tomreyn> thinky: it's a graphics driver option which limits output to 60 fps (or does not limit it)
[10:23] <polarbear> im also using integrated graphics from intel i have no probs
[10:23] <thinky> if i ask you Debian vs Ubuntu, how would u answer?
[10:23] <tomreyn> thinky: you could try the newer graphics drivers provided by the x edgers ppa
[10:24] <thinky> i had no issue like this
[10:24] <thinky> lately it happened i dont know why
[10:24] <tomreyn> thinky: ...jkust toi have tried something else. they ar enot officially supported, though.
[10:24] <thinky> probably new updates
[10:24] <tomreyn> *just to
[10:24] <thinky> tomreyn: i will keep this way
[10:24] <thinky> i dont want to install not supported things
[10:24] <tomreyn> polarbear: there are gazillions of different models.
[10:25] <polarbear> yer prolly
[10:25] <thinky> tomreyn: it flickered again
[10:25] <thinky> as i said it happens when i move my mouse
[10:25] <thinky> i think it touches somewhere in dashboard
[10:26] <codfection> why is my items not showing on top right corner (like chrome etc. in mac)
[10:28] <tomreyn> thinky:  if you're using this as a desktop replacement, buy a desktop computer instead next timte. they are a lot more durable, stable than mobile devices such as laptops, and their parts can be replaceable, or added to.
[10:28] <szb> Removing icons from the tray was a design choice by Canonical that started around 14.04 (i read that somewhere). There are workarounds for this, however. Take a look here: http://www.webupd8.org/2015/05/on-demand-system-tray-for-ubuntu.html
[10:28] <thinky> tomreyn: yes i know but laptops are portable
[10:29] <thinky> i can buy desktop but i consider if it is necessary to have 2 pcs
[10:29] <szb> codfection: Sorry, I'll post the link again, in case you missed it: http://www.webupd8.org/2015/05/on-demand-system-tray-for-ubuntu.html
[10:29] <thinky> i am using my laptop as desktop by the way, on dock station plugged to external 22" monitor
[10:29] <viju> XFCE does save a little RAM though. Not a huge amount but workable enough.
[10:30] <BL4DE> Anyone want 7inch x86, tablet that could run full blown GNU distro?
[10:30] <thinky> does ubuntu consider to build own phone with own ubuntu mobile os ?
[10:32] <popey> thinky: no, we're not a hardware company
[10:32] <BL4DE> http://squaremotion.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/toughpad-fz-m1-with-linux.html
[10:32] <thinky> what about ubuntu phone edge ?
[10:32] <thinky> it didnt get that attention but it was really cool
[10:33] <BL4DE> 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD options, 3G network, GPS option. its like a phablet
[10:33] <thinky> is there any native ubuntu phone at the market ? i would like to buy
[10:33] <thinky> not android app i mean native ubuntu mobile
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !phone | thinky
[10:35] <BL4DE> Maybe KDE will be sucessful. But ARM devices are so locked down that I doubt we will ever see opensource phone runing linux distro https://dot.kde.org/2015/07/25/plasma-mobile-free-mobile-platform
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> BL4DE  you mdean like android?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> mean*
[10:37] <BL4DE> lol android . has different kernel precompiled for every device cause of proprietary drivers and shit. after a while manufacturers drop support
[10:38] <ikonia> BL4DE: please don't swear
[10:41] <popey> thinky: no, there are currently no ubuntu phones on sale
[10:42] <thinky> what about Bq Aquaris E5 ?
[10:42] <popey> is that still available?
[10:42] <popey> the tablets are available https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition
[10:43] <thinky> no idea i am watching reviews on utube
 thinky: no, there are currently no ubuntu phones on sale << not true
[10:43] <popey> TXRoadkill: which one is currently for sale?
[10:43] <thinky> i dont think it is native ubuntu mobile os
[10:43] <thinky> it looks like android patch
[10:44] <TXRoadkill> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[10:44] <popey> TXRoadkill: that's not a marketplace, which phone is actually possible to buy?
[10:45] <popey> There may be some reconditioned stock at BQ of the E4.5 or E5, but they're in limited numbers.
[10:46] <popey> https://store.bq.com/es/zona-outlet
[10:46] <thinky> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0oQy7jgH_w
[10:46] <popey> thinky: I handed her that phone :)
[10:46] <thinky> really?
[10:47] <popey> Yes :)
[10:47] <thinky> :D
[10:47] <thinky> cool
[10:47] <thinky> she is pretty :p
[10:47] <thinky> ah not really lol
[10:47] <thinky> ok
[10:47] <popey> moving on...
[10:48] <thinky> well do they consider to release ubuntu phones in short run?
[10:48] <thinky> maybe with wider brands
[10:48] <thinky> samsung, lenovo .. etc
[10:48] <popey> Not currently.
[10:48] <jarnos> I made a boot/installation media of Mythbuntu 16.04 by mkusb. I run a persistent live session. unattended-upgrades started to operate and install e.g. new kernel on the USB flash drive. The consequence was that system ran out of inodes here: /dev/loop0 mounted ar /rofs How to recover?
[10:48] <thinky> i wrote in lenovo forum and blog about a phone called ThinkPhone
[10:49] <thinky> like ThinkPads
[10:49] <thinky> running ubuntu
[10:49] <thinky> it would be really cool idea
[10:49] <thinky> popey: why not ?
[10:49] <thinky> beleive me ubuntu can beat android
[10:49] <thinky> android is garbage full of virus
[10:49] <popey> I think we should take this discussion elsewhere, #ubuntu is for tech support.
[10:49] <ikonia> nice market and tech research there thinky
[10:49] <popey> either #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <thinky> they are sleeping
[10:50] <soulfire> I'm trying to use sed to grab all the text between the first and third colon in a line.. Is there a good way to do this?
[10:51] <popey> soulfire: I'd use awk.... | awk -F ':' '{ print $1,$2,$3 }'
[10:51] <popey> soulfire: or similar :)
[10:57] <soulfire> thanks popey how can I keep a colon to seperate values of $1 $2 $3
[11:00] <blackflow> soulfire: { print $1 ":" $2 ":" $3 }
[11:16] <nexusguy59> Good morning everyone
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> good afternoon
[11:26] <codfection> hello
[11:26] <codfection> chrome videos flickering on ubuntu
[11:26] <codfection> any fixes?
[11:29] <codfection> ??
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:34] <EmptyCup> Anyone know how to connect to a wireless connection when installing using the mini.iso image?
[11:42] <blackflow> EmptyCup: does it not ask for network configuration options during installation?
[11:43] <EmptyCup> blackflow: It does try to automatically identify network settings.
[11:43] <EmptyCup> blackflow: but it does not ask for WPA keys or anything like that
[11:44] <blackflow> hmm
[11:47] <EmptyCup> blackflow: I can see that iwlwifi is loaded and "ip link" shows that wlp3s0 is up
[11:49] <blackflow> EmptyCup: well, if it doesn't offer through installation menus -- and iirc it should -- you could try switching to an alt tty and use wpa_supplicant directly on wlp3s0
[11:51] <blackflow> EmptyCup: some minimal wpa_supplicant config could be   network { ssid "Your SSID"; psk "Your WPA2-PSK passphrase"}   and if your ssid is hidden, add scan_ssid=1;   then run something like wpa_supplicant -c /path/to/that/config
[11:51] <blackflow> I don't remember if you can supply those options on the command line to wpa_supplicant directly, or you need a config file like that
[11:52] <blackflow> oh yeah, also option -i wlp3s0
[11:53] <olmari> I installed ubuntu into ZFS, all is otherwise good, but network-manager shows much of the interfaces as "not managed" and I can't use them.. only the wlan is usable (that was used with installation time if that matters)...
[11:53] <EmptyCup> blackflow: So I should be able to use only the wpa-supplicant to connect?
[11:53] <olmari> nothing suspicious in /etc/config/network nor in NM files
[11:53] <jmss> Hi, did linux-firmwre-nonfree disappeared from 16.04.1?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> !find linux-firmware
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> !find linux-firmware rusty
[11:54] <olmari> so... I'm at loss how to resolve this :)
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> jmss  you're right, it was there in trusty
[11:55] <jmss> MonkeyDust: was it included in linux-firmware?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> find linux-firmware trusty | jmss
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> !find linux-firmware trusty | jmss
[11:56] <ubuntu-mate> Hi!
[11:57] <jmss> MonkeyDust: maybe they don't separate between free and non-free anymore
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> jmss  that must be it
[11:57] <smong> I'm running ubuntu 14.04 LTS, I have a dockerfile for ubuntu 14.04, can I just run the commands in that (and change some) to accomplish whatever the docker file does? :p
[11:57] <tomreyn> olmari: if i recall correctly, network manager will log (to syslog) if it decides not to manage a NIC for some reason.
[11:58] <olmari> tomreyn: hmm
[11:58] <olmari> lets see
[12:03] <blackflow> EmptyCup: the wpa_supplicant way is the only way I know to connect via wifi and it always worked like that. I don't know if wlan options can be forced through ifconfig/ip/iwconfig instead.
[12:04] <jmss> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:04] <theos> hi
[12:06] <EmptyCup> blackflow: Ok. I'll try that. Thank you very much.
[12:09] <olmari> tomreyn: hmm... so far I haven't found anything related to failing or NM not wanting to manage...
[12:09] <olmari> Aug 25 00:36:41 w520 NetworkManager[4405]: <info>  [1472074601.5139] devices added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:19.0/net/enp0s25, iface: enp0s25)
[12:09] <olmari> Aug 25 00:36:41 w520 NetworkManager[4405]: <info>  [1472074601.5139] device added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:19.0/net/enp0s25, iface: enp0s25): no ifupdown configuration found.
[12:09] <olmari> most close thing found so far
[12:10] <olmari> hmm.. apparmor errors I do see
[12:10] <tomreyn> olmari: what does this report (paste output to a pastebin, please)? NetworkManager --print-config
[12:10] <olmari> not relating to specific device, but more general
[12:14] <olmari> tomreyn: huge, while grepped "only" NetworkManager and nm- http://paste.ubuntu.com/23102220/
[12:14] <olmari> ah man.. sorry... I'm blind... lets see the real command too :)
[12:15] <olmari> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23102223/
[12:16] <olmari> tomreyn: first paste is all NM relating from syslog, latter is the command you asked :)
[12:17] <tomreyn> olmari: does /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf say anything specific to the wireless NIC or your other NICs?
[12:18] <olmari> tomreyn: file doesn't exist
[12:21] <tomreyn> find /etc -name 10-globally-managed-devices.conf
[12:21] <crazyhorse18> so i'm getting SATA failed to IDENTIFY (init_dev_params failed) when i'm booting up my computer
[12:21] <crazyhorse18> when i stuck the hdd into a usb slot
[12:21] <olmari> tomreyn: 0
[12:21] <crazyhorse18> it showed up as a 2.2tb hdd, when it's 4tb and wouldn't mount
[12:22] <Ben64> crazyhorse18: whats the output of 'sudo parted -l'
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> crazyhorse18  run this command, then un/plug again, see what happens ... tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:23] <crazyhorse18> is there a way i can get access to the terminal..
[12:23] <crazyhorse18> ah got terminal wait up
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> crazyhorse18  ctrl alt t
[12:23] <tomreyn> olmari: and /etc/network/interfaces does not exist?
[12:24] <crazyhorse18> Ben64: ok in parted it only listed 3 disks.. but they look like swap and my ssd.. the ata drive is not in there
[12:24] <olmari> tomreyn: does, has much of nothing but direcgtive to /e/n/interfaces.d/ which in turn is empty
[12:25] <Ben64> crazyhorse18: well what shows it as 2.2TB?
[12:25] <crazyhorse18> ah sorry i've got it plugged in again
[12:25] <crazyhorse18> through the sata port
[12:26] <crazyhorse18> if i do sudo fdisk -l it doesn't show up in there either
[12:27] <tomreyn> olmari: i'm puzzled, everything i read suggests all your NICs shozuld be manageable by NM. maybe post a screenshot of the GUI where you cannot manage a device.
[12:27] <thinky> screen still flickering :S
[12:30] <Vacuum_> Hi
[12:30] <crazyhorse18> i'll try moving the driver to another computer
[12:30] <crazyhorse18> drive*
[12:31] <Vacuum_> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8905569
[12:31] <tomreyn> crazyhorse18: also try a different usb cable and usb connector / port if available
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> Vacuum_  you can activate the repos you want or need
[12:32] <Vacuum_> MonkeyDust:  Can't I do it automatically?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> Vacuum_  i'm not in ubuntu right now, it's an item in the system settings, Software sources or so
[12:33] <Vacuum_> its vps
[12:33] <Vacuum_> no gui
[12:33] <theos> how do i find out which file is located on a particular block?
[12:35] <cast> theos: that's a very peculiar question, what's the motivation? disk corruption?
[12:36] <theos> cast yes. i have bad blocks :S
[12:36] <olmari> tomreyn: lol.. apparently not that good.. there is slight delay between pressing PrtSc and the actualk shot, and in beween menu is almost faded out :D
[12:36] <cast> theos: what FS?
[12:36] <theos> cast ext4
[12:37] <tomreyn> olmari: you can install the NM CLI and post thre output of "nmcli d" instead
[12:37] <olmari> tomreyn: anyhow, nm-applet shows there is device, and greyed out "device not managed" under it
[12:37] <tomreyn> olmari: ...and then try to configure the other NICs using the CLI and show its output as it fails
[12:38] <thinky> when i create a file in usr/share/..
[12:38] <thinky> what should i do to reflect?
[12:38] <thinky> or to refresh?
[12:38] <thinky> does system automatically get the file?
[12:39] <olmari> tomreyn: doesn't fail, says basically same things as GUI... wlp3s0 wifi connected, enp0s25 ethernet unmanaged, and so on for everythign else than the wifi
[12:40] <tomreyn> thinky: if you are creating this file to change the behavior of some service, this service may need ot be restarted. you'r enot providing enough information to provide a specifc reply.
[12:40] <cast> theos: looks like debugfs lets you find out what blocks a file has, so if we can't work out the reverse of that, one could just check each file until you find the blocks in question
[12:40] <olmari> tomreyn: hmm need to read how make conn with nmcli
[12:40] <Vacuum_> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8905569
[12:41] <thinky> tomreyn: i did this for screen flicker issue : http://askubuntu.com/questions/752743/ubuntu-16-04-skylake-6th-generation-screen-flickering
[12:41] <tomreyn> olmari: wont work if unmanaged. read up on how to make it managed instead
[12:42] <cast> theos: as a side note, btrfs||zfs sure would be handy here ;)
[12:42] <olmari> tomreyn: the thing is... like you said even... there is nothing that suggest it sh0ouldn't work...
[12:42] <Vacuum_> why am I still seeing 'inrelease'
[12:42] <olmari> reason being unmanaged is still unknown
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> Vacuum_  you should give a short description of the issue, in the same line  when you pastebin something
[12:44] <Vacuum_> why am I still seeing 'inrelease'  https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8905569
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> Vacuum_  and menstion the vps
[12:44] <tomreyn> Vacuum_: that's not an issue.
[12:45] <Vacuum_> tomreyn:  what is it theN?
[12:45] <tomreyn> a textual informative output
[12:45] <Vacuum_> tomreyn:  on my desktop I get a lot of udpate repos
[12:45] <Vacuum_> tomreyn:  than why so less on vps and saying 'in rlease'
[12:46] <tomreyn> thinky: this is a much newer cpu generation than yours, but it might still help. or not.
[12:46] <thinky> i created the file by gksu gedit ...
[12:46] <thinky> how to refresh it
[12:46] <thinky> it still flickers
[12:46] <Vacuum_> ?
[12:47] <tomreyn> olmari: maybe try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed#answer
[12:47] <netvixtra> oh the lenovo horrors
[12:49] <netvixtra> thinky: had the same shit on my X1 Carbon
[12:50] <thinky> netvixtra: i have x201
[12:50] <netvixtra> funny, I have a x201 and a x220 too
[12:50] <netvixtra> But never had flickering issues
[12:50] <olmari> tomreyn: tried most of those already, nope :P
[12:51] <thinky> interesting..
[12:51] <thinky> is it because of ram maybe? i newly installed a ram
[12:51] <thinky> it happens in ubuntu only
[12:51] <netvixtra> thinky: tried to purge intel driver?
[12:52] <thinky> how to do that?
[12:52] <netvixtra> sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:52] <netvixtra> and reboot
[12:52] <thinky> let me try
[12:53] <thinky> brb to reboot
[12:55] <tomreyn> olmari: sorry, i can't help then. maybe post a bug report using ubuntu-bug network-manager
[12:56] <olmari> tomreyn: maybe... I'm baffled too, hence coming here :P
[12:56] <tomreyn> this command also gathers all the relevant output, reviewing it might hint on what's wrong.
[12:58] <thinky> testing..
[12:59] <thinky> who was the one who has x1 carbon?
[12:59] <thinky> looks like no screen flicker now but lets test some more
[13:00]  * netvixtra slaps thinky around a bit with a x201
[13:00] <thinky> lol netvixtra
[13:00] <thinky> u like x201?
[13:00] <netvixtra> Its ok for traveling
[13:00] <thinky> it is the latest original design :/
[13:00] <thinky> i love it but specs got old :S
[13:00] <netvixtra> using mobile internet
[13:01] <thinky> 1st gen cpu and others..
[13:01] <thinky> i wish it would be possible to upgrade cpu and screen
[13:02] <netvixtra> yeah, some 1080p would be nice
[13:03] <thinky> yep
[13:03] <thinky> netvixtra: it flickers still :S
[13:20] <julian> :D
[13:22] <Richard> useind linux on windows 10
[13:24] <Guest37278> useing linux on window 10
[13:25] <Andrija> yo
[13:25] <Andrija> Sup people?
[13:30] <mdlpe> hello, /dir/dir1/dir2/foo : I want 'find' stop the search @ dir1. I tried --maxdepth 1 (no result) where I'm wrong please ?
[13:31] <theos> thanks cast
[13:39] <BL4DE> Hey did anyone manage to set up Empathy with SIP protocol?
[13:53]  * Pinkamena_D ?
[13:54] <Kali-Torwaechter> hallo zusammen
[14:11] <dj_beirut> Hi. i am having an issue with a server keeps going out of memory and cpu. and i think i know which program that is eating it up. but i am not sure how to go forward to debug what is going wrong. any help would be appriciated.
[14:12] <bekks> dj_beirut: So tell us about the details then.
[14:13] <dj_beirut> bekks what do you want to know? what info can i provide?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> dj_beirut  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[14:15] <dj_beirut> MonkeyDust it's empyt.
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> dj_beirut  ok, the output of   lsb_release -d
[14:16] <dj_beirut> MonkeyDust Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[14:21] <dj_beirut> MonkeyDust bekks here is the last crash output from syslog: http://pastebin.com/GeAfJm29
[14:22] <SamSagaZ> hey guys.. if i run ubuntu just from CLI, how can i know if my HDs are running or in sleep mode? im building and small machine and want to save as much power as i can because the computer will be on 24hs/day
[14:26] <kittykitty> does anyone know what is going on with the ubuntu 16.04 amd drivers?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> SamSagaZ, if your pc goes into sleep mode the power indicator lighjt changes colour ...the colour depends on your pc make of course
[14:27] <thecrazyskull> erv identify karbila12
[14:27] <SamSagaZ> mm can i configure power settings trough cli, right?
[14:27] <Shibe> what is apt-daily and why is it slowing down my boot?
[14:28] <kittykitty> Shibe, it installs critical updates once a day if i remember correctly
[14:28] <ksft> I have an integrated Intel graphics card and a dedicated Nvidia one.
[14:28] <ksft> I can't use the Nvidia one.
[14:28] <Shibe> kittykitty: what kind of critical updates?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> SamSagaZ, yes, but I don't much about using the cli power settings
[14:28] <Shibe> its also slowing down my boot by 14s
[14:28] <BluesKaj> know
[14:28] <ksft> If I try to install proprietary drivers for it, I can't log in the next time I start X.
[14:30] <kittykitty> Shibe, https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.regular-upgrades.html i'll try find the other link for what i read about it
[14:30] <BluesKaj> SamSagaZ, sudo pm-suspend is about all I use anyway :-)
[14:30] <kittykitty> Shibe, yeah here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates too
[14:30] <aungmyokyaw> how to use hud in ubuntu mate
[14:30] <ponA> hey, i have a problem concerning my raid5, recently a disc broke and i shut the system down, ordered a new disk and now i am trying to add it to the raid again
[14:32] <kittykitty> any news on the AMDGPU driver?
[14:32] <ponA> i partitioned the disk using parted and tried to add it to the volume using mdadm --add /dev/md127 /dev/sdc but that did give me the error "cannot get array info for /dev/md127
[14:32] <SamSagaZ> ok :)
[14:32] <ponA> so how do i fix that without losing my data :)
[14:33] <ioria> !info hdparm | SamSagaZ
[14:34] <SamSagaZ> ioria, thanks!
[14:34] <ioria> SamSagaZ, np,  https://linuxconfig.org/change-hard-drive-s-sleep-standby-mode-timer-to-reduce-power-consumption
[14:34] <SamSagaZ> you are the best
[14:37] <imaheah> hello?
[14:37] <alanjoel> how can I give each monitor it's own wallpaper?
[14:38] <alanjoel> imaleah: better to just ask your question you'll get a response sooner
[14:40] <alanjoel> imaheah: better to just ask your question you'll get a response sooner
[14:40] <bekks> dj_beirut: your flussonic application is being killed. You need to reconfigure your OOM killer for killing the application that eats up your memory, not some random application (which is the default).
[14:40] <alanjoel> how can I give each monitor it's own wallpaper?
[14:41] <dj_beirut> bekks i believe it is flussonic that is eating up the memory.
[14:41] <bekks> dj_beirut: And I told you why you cant be sure.
[14:42] <ioria> alanjoel,  check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/531519/different-wallpapers-on-multiple-monitors
[14:43] <dj_beirut> bekks i know it is flussonic because i can see how much flussonic is actually using of the ressources at all time.
[14:45] <alanjoel> ioria:the tweak tool has change since then. This should not be so complicated
[14:45] <bekks> dj_beirut: So you already know whats causing those OOM killer invocations.
[14:46] <dj_beirut> bekks i know it's flussonic. i just don't know why or how to go about debugging it.
[14:46] <bekks> dj_beirut: is that an application from the ubuntu repos?
[14:47] <ioria> alanjoel,  unity-tweak-tool, you mean ? or what tool ?
[14:47] <dj_beirut> bekks how can reconfigure OOM killer to kill the application eating up the memory? just to make sure?
[14:48] <dj_beirut> bekks no it is not.
[14:48] <dj_beirut> it's from www.flussonic.com
[14:48] <alanjoel> ioria: gnome tweak too different. Went through items on page. installed gnome tweak and mate tweak I hate unity
[14:48] <bekks> dj_beirut: then you need to ask the support ciommunity of flussonic for further help.
[14:50] <ioria> !info nitrogen | alanjoel
[14:52] <ioria> alanjoel,  but i'd try first the fix in the link posted
[15:10] <Donohue> Anyone with any experience dual booting Ubuntu and OS X? Currently, if I hold option and select Macintosh HD, I can get into my OS X install, just not certain if it's best to update GRUB entries, or to use something like reFIND
[15:35] <alanjoel> ioria: Thanks had to get up for a few.. I'll try it
[15:35] <johnharris85> Anyone got any suggestions for this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/815558/upstart-logs-dont-exist
[15:35] <ioria> alanjoel,  good luck
[15:41] <ikonia> johnharris85: what's the summary of the problem
[15:48] <johnharris85> ikonia, it's a pretty short post :p But I'm using upstart, and no logs are created. /var/log/upstart doesn't exist
[15:48] <melio> good earthly time to all, i have a problem with showing wifi ssid names in my network menu with wifi being my primary network connection, the issue arose when i designated a static ip for my laptops network mac address - after i that wifi ssid's dissapeared. but it still connects (i'm online right?) - 16.04.1
[15:48] <ikonia> johnharris85: what version of ubuntu ?
[15:49] <johnharris85> 14.04
[15:50] <ikonia> johnharris85: are you sure it's meant to be there in 14.04
[15:50] <ikonia> johnharris85: reading the docs only stdout is logged there
[15:51] <johnharris85> sure
[15:51] <johnharris85> so for instance Docker (which is what I'm having an issue with)
[15:51] <johnharris85> daemon (which is started with upstart) is meant to log to /var/log/upstart/docker.log
[15:51] <CaNnn> hı ther e
[15:51] <ikonia> johnharris85: how do you know it's meant to log there
[15:51] <ikonia> (or why do you think it's meant to log there)
[15:52] <johnharris85> https://docs.docker.com/engine/admin/#/logs
[15:53] <ikonia> johnharris85: so the first thing to do is to create that directory
[15:54] <ikonia> johnharris85: the second thing to do is check your config with "initctl log-priority" and "initctl emit@
[15:54] <ikonia> sorry "initctl emit"
[15:56] <johnharris85> `message` for log-priority
[15:56] <V7> Hey all
[15:56] <ikonia> johnharris85: ok, so it's only going to log "message" level priority or greater,
[15:57] <ikonia> anything bellow message wont' get logged
[15:57] <V7> How can I make a trick to show a notification when song in Rhythmbox changing ?
[15:59] <johnharris85> thanks ikonia, so how do I know what 'level' an application is logging at? (obviously they have internal language specific levels, but how does that translate to upstart?)
[15:59] <V7> And ... which one SFTP client I should you beside Krusader and Filezilla ...
[15:59] <V7> 'cause I don't like them
[15:59] <V7> Is there anything like Total Commander or smth. else ?
[16:00] <ikonia> johnharris85: messages are normally information or higher
[16:00] <ikonia> eg; what you'd expect to see on screen if you where doing it manually
[16:00] <V7> I'm using terminal version, so ... is there smth. pretty like Total Commander /
[16:00] <alkisg> v7, midnight commander
[16:00] <johnharris85> in fact, if I do an initctl show-config, docker doesn't appear...
[16:00] <V7> alkisg: Yeah ... I have this one thx :)
[16:01] <ikonia> johnharris85: how did you install docker ?
[16:01] <V7> I mean GUI
[16:01] <johnharris85> via apt
[16:01] <johnharris85> and I can start through `service xxx start` etc..
[16:01] <ikonia> johnharris85: where did it pull the repo though
[16:01] <johnharris85> didn't do any manual init.d setup
[16:01] <johnharris85> direct from docker I believe, manually added the repo
[16:02] <ikonia> johnharris85: ok - so the package is not an ubuntu package
[16:02] <ikonia> it's a package provided by the docker repos
[16:02] <johnharris85> believe so
[16:02] <ikonia> johnharris85: so you need to take this up with the docker package maintainers/support
[16:03] <V7> alkisg: Which one do you using ?
[16:03] <johnharris85> OK thanks, will look into it. I do however have loads of other jobs running under upstart (according to initctl show-config). How come the /var/log/upstart dir didn't exist and those weren't logging anything?
[16:03] <alkisg> V7, filezilla or nautilus or sshfs or scp
[16:03] <ikonia> johnharris85: maybe it gets created on demand, or maybe you deted it somehow
[16:03] <ikonia> I'd have to look into it
[16:03] <PugaBear> sshfs!
[16:03] <ikonia> if I'm honest I'm not expcting anything to log to /var/log/upstart
[16:04] <ikonia> hence the surprise at docker
[16:04] <johnharris85> ah OK
[16:07] <johnharris85> going to reinstall from ubuntu sources ikonia and see if that's any different, have been using for a while and possible was still using old repos
[16:07] <johnharris85> (despite being on a newer version, may have updated binaries myself)
[16:08] <V7> lol
[16:09] <V7> I've installed Gnome Commander and after 10 secs it's just crashed ...
[16:09] <V7> Before I wanted to add a "New Connection"
[16:09] <V7> sudo apt-get purge gnome-commander
[16:10] <V7> Installing Krusader need 92.9 MB to download
[16:11] <siva_machina> sudo apt purge works also. at least on 16.04
[16:12] <alkisg> Krusader probably needs a lot of KDE dependencies...
[16:12] <johnharris85> OK ikonia so now I installed again, again from Docker repos (official instructions), again it doesn't show up in `initctl show-config`, but now it _does_ log to /var/log/upstart/docker.log
[16:12] <johnharris85> :p
[16:13] <siva_machina> Apperantly Krusader was update last 7 years ago
[16:14] <codfection> I love ubuntu. other than minor bugs its a good OS
[16:14] <siva_machina> codfection that would be with any OS
[16:15] <codfection> siva_machina, even with macOS?
[16:15] <Guest63100> useing windows 10 with xchat
[16:15] <siva_machina> yup
[16:15] <codfection> ahan
[16:17] <Guest63100> did u guy no windows 10 running ubuntu side by side
[16:17] <alkisg> !dualboot
[16:17] <Guest63100> not dual booting
[16:18] <siva_machina> I stop duaelbooting at the begninning of the year
[16:18] <ubuntu0645> question. I 'm installing ubuntu 32bit 16.04 on an old computer, and after the user creation step, the computer keeps reading the ubuntu dvd and the system is not responding well
[16:19] <siva_machina> Ubuntu with Unity?
[16:19] <alkisg> ubuntu0645: try a usb stick?
[16:19] <ubuntu0645> mm
[16:19] <ubuntu0645> maybe
[16:19] <ubuntu0645> I 'm not sure that I can boot a usb
[16:19] <ubuntu0645> xubuntu
[16:19] <alkisg> You can start from a cd and continue with the usb stick
[16:19] <alkisg> casper will still locate the image
[16:19] <siva_machina> oh xubuntu so it is xfce then
[16:19] <ubuntu0645> like a hirens boot cd ?
[16:20] <ubuntu0645> yes it xfce
[16:20] <alkisg> No, start from the cd you're starting now, and then remove it and plug the usb stick right after kernel+initrd loads
[16:20] <siva_machina> if you can't get that to work there is also lubuntu and Ubuntu-mate
[16:21] <ponycorn17> what's the preferred way of getting a newer kernel and linux-firmware? is it really to acquire a .deb and dpkg it?
[16:21] <alkisg> or click on the "test cd contents" menu to ensure your drive reads all the cd correctly
[16:22] <ubuntu0645> alkisg I have to assume that the kernel has already loaded when it says that is generating locales ?
[16:22] <alkisg> ubuntu0645: yes, what I'm saying is that your cd disk or drive somehow doesn't manage to be properly read at the stage you're mentioning
[16:22] <codfection> siva_machina, but I doubt that a free product can be as good as paid. sorry its not the channel to discuss.
[16:22] <alkisg> ubuntu0645: so, by using a usb stick the way I've said, you will ensure that everything is read properly
[16:24] <ubuntu0645> alkisg I'm suspecting the same thing, is there any way to prove this assumption other than the continious medium read ?
[16:24] <siva_machina> codfection I have been lurking in #ubuntu-offtopic for some time
[16:24] <alkisg> ubuntu0645: not really, you can either md5sum it or use a usb stick
[16:25] <ioria> ubuntu0645, in the main menu, you can check the disk integrity
[16:25] <alkisg> ubuntu0645: you can also very easily netboot /netinstall it if you have another pc there
[16:25] <ioria> ubuntu0645, 'Check disc for defects'
[16:25] <ubuntu0645> alkisg md5sum the dvd ?
[16:25] <alkisg> (even without ubuntu)
[16:25] <alkisg> Yes, either the menu that me and ioria said, or plain md5sum /dev/sr0
[16:25] <squinty> ubuntu0645, fwiw, you can use the plop boot manager on older systems to boot from usb.  make the plop boot cd and then select your usb stick from the plop menu.  see https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html for further details
[16:26] <SchrodingersScat> can confirm plop is great for quicky things that can't usb boot
[16:26] <ubuntu0645> alkisg the md5sum of the sr0 should be the same with the one of the iso ?
[16:26] <alkisg> He can also boot from the cd and continue from usb\
[16:26] <alkisg> ubuntu0645: yes
[16:26] <ubuntu0645> thanks squinty
[16:26] <ubuntu0645> thank you all
[16:26] <squinty> yw
[16:27] <alkisg> Btw, plop doesn't work in all ancient hardware, for me it worked in like 5 out of 10 cases
[16:27] <alkisg> So we're mostly using netbooting here for installations
[16:36] <V7> So ... developer fixed this 12309 error ?
[16:36] <V7> Ubuntu developers *
[16:36] <V7> Issue *
[16:38] <OerHeks> user error cannot be fixed, afaik
[16:39] <pjc> hello
[16:43] <alkisg> V7, we've no idea which application issue you're referring to
[16:43] <alkisg> Hello pjc
[16:45] <V7> alkisg: 12309: I/O operations on large files tend to produce extremely high iowait times and poor system I/O performance (degraded interactivity).
[16:46] <V7> Just remembered ... Happy birthday IRC !
[16:46] <alkisg> V7, that's an upstream kernel bug, not an ubuntu bug... ubuntu bugs are filed on launchpad
[16:46] <Guest21079> is it really?
[16:46] <Guest21079> lucky me
[16:50] <FManTropyx> I am burning my USB with 16.04 and Rufus says "This ISO uses symbolic links, which will not be replicated due to file system limitations. Because of this, some features from this image may not work..."
[16:50] <V7> alkisg: So ... Ubuntu doesn't have this one ?
[16:50] <V7> Or ... snth like this ?
[16:50] <V7> I cant undertand now
[16:51] <alkisg> V7, in general, Ubuntu has most of the bugs that upstream software has. It does have a few local solutions. But the bug you're referring to has been solved years ago, so no distro has it.
[16:52] <FManTropyx> now it wants me to select ISO or DD more and it recommends the other one than I would have chosen
[16:53] <FManTropyx> "Error while partitioning drive"
[16:54] <alkisg> FManTropyx: in general, dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb, is the easiest way to write a usb stick that boots in both bios and uefi
[16:54] <FManTropyx> "Failed"
[16:54] <alkisg> Make sure that the usb is not mounted anywhere
[16:55] <FManTropyx> it is not, log shows nothing
[16:56] <FManTropyx> it is a new stick and Windows says "File system: RAW"
[16:57] <FManTropyx> I removed the drive letter Windows gave it, but it came back
[16:58] <FManTropyx> ah, now I see in log "Could not delete drive layout: [0x0000001F] A device attached to the system is not functioning."
[16:59] <c_nick> . https://indrajit.typeform.com/to/fd9sMj on this site vote for your favourite team name :)
[17:00] <c_nick>  i cant decide so created a form :) let me know once done .. there is a dropdown too!
[17:00] <c_nick> and click enter at the bottom
[17:00] <FManTropyx> welp, I had to format it and now it appears to be functioning
[17:00] <FManTropyx> probably would have worked staright away in DD mode
[17:00] <FManTropyx> thanks for help!
[17:02] <dwx> selamun aleykum bro'lar
[17:21] <JasonSome> hi to all!! can you please help me here? I am striving to get mining working on my Ubuntu 16.04 but I am facing a serious problem with OpenCL: I cannot get Ubuntu detect my GPU with OpenCL... OpenCL sees only my CPU. Can you please help me?
[17:23] <SchrodingersScat> !details | JasonSome
[17:27] <FAM_> ...
[17:27] <FAM_> Hello?
[17:28] <FAM_> Anyone here?
[17:28] <FAM_> Hello??
[17:37] <JasonSome> @SchrodingersScat: Ubuntu 16.04.1 64-bit
[17:37] <JasonSome> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pgJ57I0L/
[17:38] <JasonSome> so no GPU displayed
[17:38] <JasonSome> my GPU: AMD Radeon HD 4830
[17:39] <JasonSome> SchrodingersScat: any other info you need?
[17:42] <danny_> is there a reason that rclone is not in the official repos?
[17:43] <lvminst> Hi, I am trying to install Kubuntu 16.04 over an old Ubuntu 14.04 installation. Ubuntu 14.04 is on an encrypted partition with LVM volumes. After mounting the encrypted drive on the live/usb version I could select the volumes in the installer and the installation worked fine. But now when I try to boot the system it waits for a while and then dumps me into busybox without any error message. dmesg also did not show an error. I have
[17:43] <lvminst> a separate /boot and EFI partition. I think it is just that the boot system does not find my encrypted partition and fails to load it and mount /
[17:44] <lvminst> How can I get this working?
[17:45] <mustmodify> So I'm looking for three dashes on a line and I want to replace them with three backticks. I tried lots of variations of this but with no success. Can anyone help?  ag "^\-\-\-$" | xargs sed -i "s/^\-\-\-$/\`\`\`/g"
[17:45] <mustmodify> the current error is "sed: can't read index.html:1:---"
[17:45] <lvminst> Do I have to change the initramfs?)
[17:45] <mistralol> hi I just did an do-release-upgrade from 14.04 -> 16.04 now when I run apt-get update I get the following error. Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) any suggestions?
[17:46] <mistralol> apt-key seems to run perfectly fine fromt he command line
[17:46] <Kabe0|2> oh
[17:46] <Kabe0|2> you updated
[17:46] <Kabe0|2> so your config for packages are probably pointing to the wrong version
[17:46] <mistralol> Kabe0|2: its pulled xenial
[17:47] <mistralol> as in here is the full error log http://pastebin.com/3UCdmvvV
[17:47] <Kabe0|2> how about the other sources
[17:48] <mistralol> oh there is a single invalid source
[17:49] <Kabe0|2> worse case you might have to build each missing key (if that's whats happening)
[17:49] <Kabe0|2> http://askubuntu.com/questions/604082/could-not-execute-gpgv-to-verify-signature-is-gpgv-installed
[17:49] <mistralol> keys seem to exist and match another system
[17:52] <Kabe0|2> maybe try mv the current source file
[17:52] <Kabe0|2> and building a new one
[17:52] <mistralol> Kabe0|2: just did that
[17:52] <mistralol> Kabe0|2: something really odd happeneing now. Its a virtual server on a host. I am sure they are up to something :/
[17:53] <Kabe0|2> ah yea im not sure what could be happening then...
[17:54] <Mathisen> !paste
[17:54] <mistralol> htough it is now only failing for the security repo's
[17:54] <danny_> What should I use for automating dropbox backups and syncing?  Rclone seems promising
[17:56] <winsen> hi all
[17:56] <winsen> does anyone know alternative graphically to extundelete? thanks
[17:56] <Mathisen> hello i been strugling with grub for several hours now.. it wont show my windows @ boot.. this is my /etc/grub.d/40_custom " http://paste.ubuntu.com/23103720/ " that entry dont even show when i boot upp.. os-prober does find my windows but still nothing..
[17:56] <Mathisen> anyone that can help me
[17:59] <ZeloZelos> did you make sure thats where your windows bootmanager is?
[17:59] <Mathisen> yep
[18:00] <ZeloZelos> in the correct active or inactive status (iforgot which way active i think)
[18:01] <ZeloZelos> *sometimes called bootable
[18:02] <heyyowee> hello Ive been trying to install wine but it gives ne this error...  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:02] <heyyowee>  wine1.8 : Depends: wine1.8-i386 (= 1:1.8.0-0ubuntu1)
[18:02] <heyyowee> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:02] <heyyowee> anyone help me please?
[18:02] <ZeloZelos> Mathisen, which windows version?
[18:03] <Mathisen> ZeloZelos, 10 with bitlocker on if that has anything with this to do
[18:03] <Mathisen> also legacy.. not using efi
[18:03] <ZeloZelos> try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:04] <MrAristo> Anyone have experience installing a NeatScanner on Ubuntu?
[18:04] <siva_machina> heyyowee: I just ran sudo apt install wine playonlinux when I installed wine. It worked fine for me.
[18:04] <siva_machina> I am on 16.04
[18:04] <heyyowee> how?
[18:04] <heyyowee> siva_machina_: how my friend?
[18:04] <siva_machina> it just installed
[18:04] <siva_machina> that is how
[18:04] <heyyowee> siva_machina_: Im on 14.04
[18:05] <siva_machina> it worked for me on 14.04
[18:05] <siva_machina> also. how do you have wine 1.8 on 14.04?
[18:05] <heyyowee> siva_machina_: It says it has unmet dependencies
[18:05] <OerHeks> !info wine trusty
[18:05] <ZeloZelos> Mathisen, yes, it seems bitlocker may be the key
[18:06] <siva_machina> if Irememeber 1.6 is the stable in trusty.
[18:06] <Mathisen> ZeloZelos, so there is no way to get grub to boot then ?
[18:06] <OerHeks> heyyowee, what guide are you following? playonlinux gives an option for newer wine, but that is on your own risc
[18:07] <Mathisen> ZeloZelos, i can still repair the win bootloader and put grub on a diffrent hd but that seems like a bad solusion to me.. then i need to choose hd @ boot evertime i want to switch os
[18:07] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: Im having unmet dependencies
[18:07] <OerHeks> heyyowee, yes, we read that.
[18:07] <ZeloZelos> Mathisen, looks like easybcd may be equipted to handle it, this is what i am reading http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/9528.how-to-multiboot-with-bitlocker-tpm-and-a-non-windows-os.aspx
[18:08] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: How to fix it? I entered in the terminal sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 still having dependency errors
[18:09] <bipul> Why we need to partition hard disk ?
[18:09] <Mathisen> ZeloZelos, ohboy this is gonna be long night..
[18:09] <Mathisen> thx
[18:09] <OerHeks> heyyowee, again:  what guide are you following?
[18:09] <ikonia> bipul: so the OS knows how much space and the boundries of that space
[18:09] <ZeloZelos> Mathisen, also, perhaps secureboot is a factor, try disable/enable it
[18:09] <reisio> bipul: it's a convention, for the convenience of specializing by FS
[18:10] <bipul> ok.
[18:10] <zykotick9> bipul: you don't always need too...  you can format drives directly with ext if you want.
[18:10] <bipul> zykotick9, Means i can use entire disk,by just assigning a file system type to it. ?
[18:11] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: I must have deleted my browser history I cant find the links in askubuntu the guides I was following earlier
[18:11] <ikonia> bipul: you'll find a partition table, even if it's just one partition will make your life simple
[18:11] <reisio> because it's such a widespread convention, most things will assume you'll have done it that way
[18:11] <zykotick9> bipul: ya.  you mound using sdb as an example, no partition number for obvious reasons.
[18:11] <zykotick9> s/mound/mount/
[18:12] <ZeloZelos> Mathisen, overall, i suggest you get windows bootable and turn off bitlocker
[18:12] <reisio> bitlocker doesn't have a great track record of doing what it's meant to do properly, anyway
[18:12] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: I'vve freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 version
[18:12] <bipul> Yes, after assigning we mount it, to store the data on it.
[18:12] <OerHeks> heyyowee, that dependency error does not come from simply install wine, so you must have done some steps
[18:12] <apb1963_> siva_machina: You can attempt apt-get install wine1.8 or even wine1.8-amd64 and see what happens
[18:12] <Exterminador> just a thing that always have bugged me.. when we install Ubuntu, we got two options: install it along side with windows or create a partition.. what's the difference? any place i can read about it?
[18:13] <OerHeks> 14.04.1 ... we are at 14.04.5 now.. update
[18:13] <bipul> ikonia, reisio and zykotick9  Thank you all. :)
[18:13] <heyyowee> OerHeks
[18:13] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: Sorry.. ok ill update
[18:13] <OerHeks> heyyowee, but even not updated does not give that error
[18:13] <apb1963_> siva_machina: myself, I'm having problems with it... but I don't know if it's caused by other issues I have.  Still trying to resolve it.
[18:14] <reisio> I wonder if performance differs at all
[18:14] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: are the i386 dependency packages for wine still available in the 14.04.x repos?
[18:15] <OerHeks> heyyowee, for the standard wine, yes
[18:15] <reisio> I do like the convenience of a disposable swap partition, though...
[18:15] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: Been trying in synaptic, but still nothing...
[18:15] <OerHeks> heyyowee, update properly, then come back
[18:16] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: When I input just sudo apt-get install wine still gives me dependency errors
[18:16] <heyyowee> OerHeks_: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[18:16] <heyyowee> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[18:16] <heyyowee> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[18:16] <heyyowee> or been moved out of Incoming.
[18:16] <heyyowee> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[18:16] <heyyowee> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:19]  * apb1963_ checks for a pulse in #ubuntu
[18:20] <apb1963_> She's dead Jim
[18:22] <mistralol> after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 I seem to get this http://pastebin.com/3UCdmvvV when running apt-get update anyone any suggestions. I have tried a number of things so far...
[18:22] <siva_machina> I'm not a doctor I am a proctologist....
[18:23] <ikonia> siva_machina: don't need that sort of sillyness here please
[18:25] <OerHeks> mistralol, seems like you run into this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1577926
[18:26] <JasonSome> any help with my GPU issue?
[18:26] <mistralol> OerHeks: yeah but how to fix is the problem
[18:26] <OerHeks> mistralol, i am reading on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1583102 see #3, and http://askubuntu.com/questions/759071/cant-update-upgrade-du-to-could-not-execute-apt-key-to-verify-signature
[18:27] <OerHeks> boot in recovery and perform ' Sudo dpkg --configure -a ' perhaps?
[18:28] <mistralol> OerHeks: cant its a remote vm
[18:28] <OerHeks> .. upgrading a VM, great.
[18:30] <OerHeks> mistralol, is this a rental VPS or something? then your provider should offer you a 16.04 image, they tend to tweak heavily, or you are not using their manual to upgrade..
[18:30] <mistralol> OerHeks: they dont have a 16.04 image yet
[18:31] <OerHeks> Then there is a little we can do, restore your backup.
[18:32] <blackflow> mistralol: remote VM without rescue mode? it's not hosted by a hosting company?
[18:32] <mistralol> blackflow: yeah there is an external rescue mode but how is that going to resolve the issue?
[18:33] <blackflow> mistralol: well, OerHeks' advice to boot in recover and dpkg ... ?
[18:33] <blackflow> btw, do we report here to ops when a user is spamming via msg?
[18:33] <mistralol> blackflow: blackflow and what does that do exactly?
[18:34] <OerHeks> blackflow, join #ubuntu-ops please
[18:34] <blackflow> OerHeks: k, thanks.
[18:35] <blackflow> mistralol: I must admit I read only part of hte conversation, the part about not being able to reboot into rescue mode because it's a remote vm
[18:35] <mistralol> blackflow: yeah but recue what is my point I can acess the machine perfectly fine ;)
[18:35] <JasonSome> please, why won't anyone help me?
[18:35] <mistralol> blackflow: I just cannot update it
[18:36] <JasonSome> (my GPU problem)
[18:36] <blackflow> mistralol: (is gnupg installed?)
[18:36] <Honkii> whats the GPU problem ?
[18:36] <mistralol> blackflow: yup :) actually strace gets this execve("/usr/bin/apt-key", ["/usr/bin/apt-key", "--quiet", "--readonly", "verify", "--status-fd", "3", "/tmp/apt.sig.exrbhV", "/tmp/apt.data.ChaxVl"], [/* 23 vars */]) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
[18:37] <mistralol> blackflow: that exe has perms of 0755 ;)
[18:37] <blackflow> mistralol: and /tmp?
[18:37] <OerHeks> your vm does not like the workaround with those keys upgrading. good protection, it is.
[18:37] <mistralol> blackflow: 1777
[18:37] <antipsychiatry> Dr.Jeffrey Schaler: Psychiatry is a Fraud and Is All About Control
[18:39] <blackflow> mistralol: any apparmor rules in effect?
[18:40] <mistralol> blackflow: not that I know of. Its not something I am familure with
[18:40] <blackflow> mistralol: tmp mounted noexec?
[18:41] <mistralol> blackflow: tmp isn't its own filesystem
[18:41] <blackflow> hrm
[18:46] <blackflow> mistralol: does running `apt-key update` fix anything?
[18:47] <mistralol> blackflow: tried
[18:47] <mistralol> blackflow: its a bug in apt
[18:47] <mistralol> blackflow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1577926
[18:48] <blackflow> oh
[18:49] <mistralol> is there a simple way to disable all of apparmour stuff for a short period ot test it?
[18:49] <OerHeks> No, not a bug, you are fighting your VM defense system
[18:49] <OerHeks> :-D
[18:49] <OerHeks> but please, continue ..
[18:49] <mistralol> vm defense system?
[18:50] <mistralol> OerHeks: the thing is they havn't actually modified much on the system other than to add a support access account
[18:51] <blackflow> mistralol: you can put all the profiles into complain mode, `aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/*`
[18:51] <WishYou> Hi! anyopne having problems with NFS read speeds with 16.04 accessing a remote share?
[18:51] <apb1963_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23103957/
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> apb1963_: ubuntu version? other ppa's enabled?
[18:54] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: 14.04.5
[18:54] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: one or two.. I forget how to display it
[18:54] <reisio> WishYou: everyone? nfs is awful, try sshfs
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> !sources | apb1963_
[18:55] <WishYou> @reisio: Thing is, I have a 14.04 server im trying to upgrade to 16.04 and with 16.06 I get horribel reasd speeds  over 14.04 all else equal...
[18:56] <salamanderrake> how do I use qtchooser to select the qt version I want to use, atm its set to qt4, but I want qt5
[18:56] <reisio> WishYou: dunno what to say, never had any positive experience with nfs
[18:56] <reisio> it's horrific
[18:56] <reisio> horrific to configure, horrific to use
[18:57] <hustledaily> hey all, im havign an issue with linux mint the mint desktop manager MDM, and lightdm as well. I installed lightdm and used proper commands to set lightdm as defualt DM, and even manually checked the config file /etc/X11/default-display-manager (or similar sorry. upon logout / reboot MDM still is called up instead of MDM. the reason for tryig to use lightdm is because isntalling xfce4 or lxde does not
[18:57] <hustledaily> create the session options entries
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> !mint | hustledaily
[18:57] <WishYou> @reisio: This is a set of ZFS-backed NFS shares from a Solaris/OmniOS server, and its been flawless with 14.04
[18:57] <hustledaily> i understand but ive had no help thus far even in their #linuxmint channel so if anyone could help me it would be great
[18:57] <WishYou> So SMB / NFS is sort of my options...
[18:58] <hustledaily> i could have ommitted linux mint from my question or topic i guess.. but i will keep that in mind in the future
[18:59] <zteam> Hi!
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> hustledaily: perhaps you could try an ubuntu liveusb, and compare the differences?
[19:00] <bruce_dev> Hey, any recommended programs to connect to a virtual servers files via sublime text or something similar?
[19:00] <bruce_dev> I tried googling but am having issues following
[19:01] <debidi> no i can't help you, and not in the least because i know not of the subject matter, and i don't particularly feel the need to sound right since it happens to be an unsupported derivative of what we all supposed to talk about
[19:01] <hustledaily> lotuspsychje: when X starts what config file does it read to detemrine the DM
[19:01] <hustledaily> /etc/X11/default-display-manager?
[19:02] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: The seemingly relevant ones are: ppa:wine/wine-builds ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> apb1963_: ah, did you try to install wine from regular ubuntu repos?
[19:03] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: meaning I should remove those ppa's...
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> apb1963_: yeah try to ppapurge non-official repos and try wine install from ubuntu repos
[19:04] <zteam> I'm considering building a new computer, will I able to play many games from Steam with the integrated graphics card (intel HD Graphics 530) in a Intel core i7-6700K
[19:04] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: thx... looking for details of ppapurge now
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | apb1963_
[19:04] <zteam> or is it way to weak?
[19:04] <ikonia> zteam: so games on linux are not good in general, using the intergrated graphics for 3d based games will also be a problem
[19:05] <reisio> ...
[19:05] <reisio> games are better on gnu/linux, they're more performant
[19:05] <reisio> like most things
[19:05] <blackflow> reisio: actually no
[19:05] <ikonia> no, they suck on linux
[19:05] <salamanderrake> ikonia: you have an amd card?
[19:05] <blackflow> on average at least. even phoronix has some hard numbers
[19:06] <ikonia> they are not designed for linux so the whole concept is a hack
[19:06] <ikonia> salamanderrake: no
[19:06] <blackflow> in my case, I've noticed same machine, same (steam) game, works okay on Windows, unplayable framerate at lowest settings on Linux, with my old gfx card. Got a new, powerful nvidia, all is well :)
[19:06] <salamanderrake> actually its that they are not desigen for opengl.
[19:06] <reisio> blackflow: you're confusing steam with games, apparently
[19:06] <reisio> steam is just one terribly made app
[19:06] <zteam> I know most games perform worse under Linux than under Windows, but that's not what I', asking
[19:07] <reisio> what ikonia said, yes
[19:07] <blackflow> reisio: steam is just delivery platform. I'm talking about games.
[19:07] <reisio> zteam: you don't though, because they don't
[19:07] <reisio> unless you mean most steam games, which is possible, because steam is kinda not good
[19:07] <reisio> blackflow: no it's more than that
[19:07] <reisio> but, not important :D
[19:07] <bruce_dev> steam is awesome
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> perhaps you guys should move this to #gamingonlinux
[19:07] <reisio> bruce_dev: you're confusing what you like about what steam provides with the quality of steam's programming :p
[19:07] <zteam> reisio, que?
[19:08] <blackflow> reisio: steam is just delivery platform
[19:08] <ikonia> blackflow: it acts as a launcher/wrapper for the games it downloads
[19:08] <ikonia> which basically just launches wine for most of the games - hence the "suck"
[19:08] <blackflow> ikonia: a.k.a delivery platform :)
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> zteam: perhaps you should also ask yourself first wich kind of games you wanna be playing from ubuntu?
[19:08] <reisio> aka s/just//
[19:08] <blackflow> ikonia: and yeah, that. Bioshock Infinite, correcct?
[19:09] <ikonia> want to play windows games, use windows
[19:09] <ikonia> it's that simple
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> zteam: every game has its own  hardware requierments
[19:09] <reisio> if you can find a non-steam version of the win32 game, it might honestly work better if you avoid the steam aspects
[19:09] <reisio> some steam games will have poor performance even on windows, though
[19:10] <Gourlay> I am trying to get this Zyxel NWD2705 working on my Ubuntu 16.04 machine and wonder if anyone can tell me how to get this going, or if i can't.
[19:10] <reisio> it has the same problem, it tries to emulate things so developers don't have to work as hard
[19:10] <zteam> ikonia, I'm not gonna switch to Windows for playing games, that's absolutely out of the question
[19:10] <reisio> zteam: very sane :)
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> zteam: try #gamingonlinux , very much happy linux gamers there
[19:11] <ikonia> zteam: then more fool you
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> zteam: would also recommend a better graphics card then the integrated intel one
[19:11] <ikonia> want to play windows games - boot windows
[19:11] <TheNH813> Is there a way to determine instructions per cycle of my CPU?
[19:11] <ikonia> it's not a hardship and you'll get the best support/compatibility
[19:12] <blackflow> bottom line, I fixed my problem by getting a stronger nvidia card. now all the games I play on Ubuntu Steam work flawlessly at highest quality.
[19:12] <ikonia> rather than a constant fight running through an abastraction level that can't really offer you direct hardware access to the kit it needs
[19:12] <ikonia> your choice
[19:12] <TheNH813> I know some modern processors can get 3 and sometimes more instructions per cycle. How would I benchmark that?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> TheNH813: perhaps bonnie++ has a benchmark you need?
[19:13] <blackflow> TheNH813: it's probably part of the CPU instruction set specification
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> !info bonnie++ | TheNH813
[19:13] <blackflow> TheNH813: ie., find the opcode documentation
[19:13] <TheNH813> Hm... I'l look up both of those.
[19:13] <zteam> ikonia, I'm talking about native Linux games, not Windows games (as native as it can be at least)
[19:13] <ikonia> "as native as it can be" ???
[19:14] <blackflow> bonnie++ is disk benchmark, nothing to do with opcodes
[19:14] <ikonia> what does that even mean
[19:14] <ikonia> it's either native linux, or not
[19:14] <blackflow> Doom3 had native linux client. worked perfect. Enemy Territory Quake Wars too.
[19:14] <blackflow> Sadly, they don't make those any more.
[19:14] <zteam> ikonia, well it would be, without all these damn DX too OpenGL wrappers
[19:15] <ikonia> what ?
[19:15] <ikonia> the game is either native for linux, or not
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> TheNH813: or phoronix test suite perhaps
[19:17] <zteam> ikonia, you don't understand what I'm saying do you? :-) most Linux games make use of a DirectX to OpenGL wrapper) (that's why I wrote "as native as it can be)
[19:18] <TheNH813> I'l look that up.
[19:19] <jeffrey_f> eth0 renamed.  how to stop that from happening........dmesg shows eth0 being renamed.
[19:19] <reisio> well, no, not most linux games
[19:19] <jeffrey_f> Ubuntu Mate
[19:19] <reisio> perhaps most windows games that _you_ use on gnu/linux
[19:19] <reisio> :p
[19:19] <ikonia> jeffrey_f: why is it a problem that it's using the new names
[19:19] <TheNH813> jeffery_F What's it getting renamed to?
[19:19] <reisio> a subtle but important distinction
[19:20] <TheNH813> Ah, good question, ikonia. Are you using a staic config for a specific card?
[19:20] <blackflow> jeffrey_f: it's udev, and iirc it can be configured not to do that.
[19:20] <TheNH813> @jeffery_f
[19:20] <jeffrey_f> TheNH813: enxb027eb6ef2ac (part of that is the MAC)
[19:21] <ikonia> that seems a wrong name, even with the new naming sandards
[19:21] <ikonia> standards
[19:21] <jeffrey_f> ikonia: I have a script expecting eth0
[19:21] <TheNH813> In the network manager or a command line tool?
[19:21] <TheNH813> Ah, script
[19:21] <blackflow> TheNH813: neither, device name
[19:22] <zteam> jeffrey_f, I remember having the same issue, you have to change some settings in grub to prevent it
[19:22] <ikonia> jeffrey_f: this is ubuntu 16.04
[19:22] <blackflow> jeffrey_f: perhaps this will help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/590029/argh-udev-wont-stop-renaming-my-interfaces/632657
[19:23] <blackflow> the part about GRUB_CMDLINE...
[19:23] <jeffrey_f> blackflow: I tried that.  I get a 10.0 IP addy instead of my 192.....
[19:24] <blackflow> jeffrey_f: is this a vm?
[19:24] <jeffrey_f> blackflow: nope, it's a pi
[19:24] <blackflow> anyway when the device is renamed, you'll probably have to reconfigure network for new device name
[19:24] <jeffrey_f> my laptop does it too, not a prob on this for now
[19:25] <zteam> jeffrey_f, that workaround worked for me at least
[19:25] <ioria> jeffrey_f, can you paste   ' ip a  ' ?
[19:25] <blackflow> jeffrey_f: either via network manager, or if you have static config in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:26] <zteam> Is there any sane reason why Ubuntu changes the name of eth0 nowadays btw?
[19:26] <zteam> it just seems to be causing problems if you ask me (scripts / programss stopping working etc)
[19:27] <ioria> zteam, https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[19:27] <blackflow> zteam: systemd's udev does that
[19:27] <blackflow> "predictable" :)
[19:27] <bipul> Is there any difference between primary partition, and extended{Logical partition} in terms of hierarchy or Priority and nature of disk?
[19:27] <jeffrey_f> blackflow: how do I remove that rename?
[19:27] <blackflow> jeffrey_f: look into that askubuntu page I linked
[19:27] <bipul> nature of partition*
[19:28] <blackflow> bipul: not really, logical partitions are an artifact of bios limitation to see only 4 physical partitions, and it's part of MBR. with GPT that doesn't exist.
[19:29] <blackflow> and frankly, I have no idea why anyone would be using MBR nowadays. does Ubuntu installer still default to MBR?
[19:29] <bipul> blackflow, Yes, GTP supports UEFI
[19:29] <bipul> And we can give upto 128 partitions through it.
[19:30] <bipul> While with MBR legacy (DOS) 4 primary and 15 Logical partition, inside Extended right ?
[19:31] <blackflow> I don't know what's the limit on logical partitions, but yeah 4 primary only
[19:31] <bipul> But my question was in terms of nature of this two partitions
[19:31] <reisio> it's also an artefact of crappy OSes
[19:31] <reisio> GNU/Linux doesn't even care what type your partition is
[19:31] <jeffrey_f> blackflow: update-grub isn't installed on my pi
[19:31] <reisio> readable data is readable data
[19:32] <bipul> Yes, fedora claims only 15 Logical partitions
[19:32] <Exterminador> so, there's no way to cheat system to create more primary partitions?
[19:32] <reisio> Exterminador: does it matter? There's no _need_
[19:32] <blackflow> just use GPT :)
[19:32] <reisio> there's no need even without gpt
[19:32] <zteam> ioria, okey, thanks for the link interesting reading
[19:32] <Exterminador> well, it matters to me..
[19:32] <Exterminador> :x
[19:32] <reisio> Exterminador: in what way?
[19:32] <Exterminador> i need to have 4 OSes
[19:32] <ioria> zteam, yrwlc
[19:32] <reisio> no, you don't
[19:32] <Exterminador> at least
[19:32]  * bipul wants to do experiment
[19:33] <reisio> but even if you did, there's still likely no need for >4 primary partitions
[19:33] <reisio> Exterminador: what four OSes?
[19:33] <Exterminador> Win 8.1, 10, Xubuntu, Debian
[19:33] <reisio> that sounds like you need two primary partitions only
[19:33] <Exterminador> all for tests purposes
[19:33] <zteam> ioria, :-)
[19:36] <Exterminador> reisio: only two?
[19:36] <Exterminador> how? :x
[19:36] <russelsteapot> anyone know where vim and its related config files stored in 14.04?
[19:36] <reisio> window usually only need a single primary partition
[19:36] <reisio> russelsteapot: /etc/, ~/.vim*
[19:36] <reisio> same as ever, almost certainly
[19:36] <russelsteapot> cool, thx
[19:37] <reisio> windows*
[19:37] <blackflow> Exterminador: just use GPT partitioning :)
[19:37] <Exterminador> hum.. i always have partitioned the disk, one partition for each OS
[19:37] <reisio> Exterminador: well, that's only four...
[19:38] <reisio> and two of the OSes don't care what type
[19:38] <EriC^^> Exterminador: linux doesn't have a problem with being on a logical partition
[19:38] <reisio> so either way you're fine
[19:38] <Exterminador> blackflow: old bios.. not even with virtualization support, i guess..
[19:38] <Exterminador> :x
[19:38] <reisio> guessing is for people who don't know :p
[19:38] <blackflow> Exterminador: how old?
[19:39] <Exterminador> blackflow: dont know really. wasnt mine the laptop
[19:39] <JasonSome> Does someone here have GPU on Ubuntu knowledge? I have a serious problem...
[19:39] <Exterminador> all i know is an Acer Aspire 5378ZG
[19:40] <ComputerPassion> How is everyone today?
[19:40] <blackflow> Exterminador: and you tried GPT, didn't work?
[19:40] <Exterminador> blackflow: i'm a newbie on that
[19:40] <Exterminador> :x
[19:40] <ComputerPassion> Anyone able to help me out with an issue on Ubuntu 16.04?
[19:40] <Exterminador> any tuto abt that?
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ComputerPassion
[19:41] <blackflow> Exterminador: probably, on google :)
[19:41] <melio> sorry i missed help earlyer, but i will repeat it after several hours. my wife required assistance and had to go shopping
[19:41] <melio> good earthly time to all, i have a problem with showing wifi ssid names in my network menu with wifi being my primary network connection, the issue arose when i designated a static ip for my laptops network mac address - after i that wifi ssid's dissapeared. but it still connects (i'm online right?) - 16.04.1
[19:41] <Exterminador> blackflow: lol.. i'll check it out.. i've used Rufus to create the Xubuntu live usb
[19:41] <ComputerPassion> I made a post on askubuntu.com (https://askubuntu.com/questions/817876/ubuntu-16-04-1-lts-kernel-boot-over-90-seconds#) where the kernal is taking 90 seconds to load. Does anyone have ideas?
[19:42] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: OK, removed both wine ppas... here's a transcript.  You may want to skip to the bottom.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23104125/
[19:42] <melio> when i use this at the console : sudo iwlist wlp3s0 scan
[19:42] <melio> it shows me several ssid's and scan data it recovers when scanning
[19:42] <melio> so it's not an issue of not being witin range
[19:43] <melio> shuld i simply reboot to reinitalize everything
[19:43] <JasonSome> !patience
[19:43] <jeffrey_f> Where in Mate can I change the script where eth0 is renamed?  none of the solutions work for MATE on pi
[19:43] <melio> I will try a reboot - be back later
[19:43] <reisio> jeffrey_f: with udev?
[19:43] <Exterminador> what means the LVM stuff when we install Ubuntu for first time?
[19:43] <jeffrey_f> I don't know, honestly
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | Exterminador
[19:44] <reisio> Exterminador: it's a very complex solution to many problems most people will never have :)
[19:44] <Exterminador> lol reisio
[19:44] <reisio> it's for abstracting hardware & partitions from one another, more than anything else
[19:45] <reisio> you don't need it, unless you do, which is not likely
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> ComputerPassion: did you try F1 at shutdown process to see usefull errors/freezes?
[19:45] <reisio> it arguably simplifies some of the optional install time options is all, from the installer's POV
[19:45] <ComputerPassion> I haven't really taken the time to diagnose the shutdown issue. That is not as important as the startup one
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> apb1963_: try apt-get clean
[19:46] <jeffrey_f> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23104161
[19:46] <bipul> In LVM .PE i.e Physical extended  is nothing but where our data resides?
[19:46] <jeffrey_f> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23104161
[19:46] <blackflow> Exterminador: the only "advantage" of it, is when you use encryption and thus also need to encrypt swap as well, so you have to unlock only the pv on which the encrypted partitions are, once.
[19:47] <melio> closed: rebooting ubuntu refreshed the driver/list and recovered the wifi ssid listing - all is well
[19:47] <ghostnik11> hi i want to do a fresh install and want to know if i should erase the linux partion first then install the fresh new install in its place without erasing my windows partition
[19:47] <reisio> it has a number of arguable advantages, but there are other ways to accomplish them all
[19:47] <reisio> it's kind of like the emacs of partitioning
[19:47] <melio> I regret having to reboot to have to do things, i would sometimes like to toggle things to get things to work without a reboot as an expert would, but i will learn slowly
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> ComputerPassion: try both on startup & shutdown boot text with F1 to see whats going on
[19:47] <reisio> lvm is to partitioning as emacs is to "text editing"
[19:47] <Exterminador> erm.. i've installed Xubuntu without a swap partition.. is that partition really important?
[19:47]  * melio leaves - thank you if you were reading and had options but didnt mention
[19:47] <reisio> Exterminador: it's quite useful
[19:48] <reisio> Exterminador: if you only just installed it, the simplest solution would be to reinstall with it
[19:48] <russelsteapot> im reading a tutorial that assumes that I have a ~/.vimrc file, which i dont, the closest thing I have found is /etc/vimrc, are they the same? or is there a file that i am missing?
[19:48] <ComputerPassion> Do I just press F1 while its booting?
[19:48] <reisio> ComputerPassion: ?
[19:48] <blackflow> russelsteapot: you can put your local vim configs into ~/.vimrc
[19:48] <reisio> russelsteapot: ~/ is for your personal configurations
[19:48] <reisio> russelsteapot: they override things in /etc/, which are system-wide
[19:48] <blackflow> russelsteapot: if you don't have it, the system default one applies first
[19:48] <ComputerPassion> lotuspsychje, do I just press F1 while booting?
[19:48] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: still no joy.  Unmet dependencies.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23104169/
[19:48] <reisio> russelsteapot: you can copy /etc/vimrc entirely to ~/.vimrc, or just add overrides to ~/.vimrc
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> ComputerPassion: if something lags, sure its worth a try
[19:49] <Exterminador> i've updated it also.. but, simplified, what does the swap partition?
[19:49] <reisio> the former is better if you ever change distro, or if the distro every changes defaults
[19:49] <blackflow> russelsteapot: you don't have to copy /etc/vimrc, your local overrides should suffice
[19:49] <ComputerPassion> lotuspsychje, thanks i'll try it and be back in a bit
[19:49] <ComputerPassion> i'll be back
[19:49] <reisio> Exterminador: it's used for virtual memory, essentially, if & when you run out of memory, and also for suspend/hibernate
[19:49] <reisio> Exterminador: and if it's a partition & not a file, it is also useful as expendable partition space, in a pinch
[19:49] <russelsteapot> blackflow, what does adding an override look like?
[19:50] <blackflow> russelsteapot: it's the same format
[19:50] <reisio> russelsteapot: you'll know when you've reason to :)
[19:50] <apb1963_> Exterminador: The processor "swaps" out processes to the swap partition to make room for o ther processes it needs to run.
[19:50] <blackflow> russelsteapot: eg. I add things like   expandtab, shiftwidth, tabstop, smartindent
[19:51] <Exterminador> well, maybe i'll reinstall it
[19:51] <OerHeks> apb1963_, contact that ppa maintainer, you still have unsupported wine lists/and or wine packages
[19:51] <apb1963_> OerHeks: thank you.. to what are you referring specifically?
[19:51] <russelsteapot> blackflow, reisio, well, i guess ill go with the option of just adding overrides, but ive never done so and im not sure how to do so, would you happen to know of an example somewhere that I could look at to model my own after?
[19:51] <OerHeks> apb1963_, to your last 2 pastes.
[19:52] <Exterminador> now, where can i find a usefull link about disk partition with swap and all that stuff
[19:52] <apb1963_> OerHeks: yes... but I was hoping you could be more specfic as to what ppa yo're referencing.
[19:52] <reisio> Exterminador: I'd just go to wikipedia
[19:52] <OerHeks> wine-staging from ppa:wine/wine-builds
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | Exterminador
[19:52] <reisio> russelsteapot: I'll suggest that's the wrong way to go about it
[19:52] <blackflow> russelsteapot: if you need to ask that, that means you probably don' thave to add any overrides. but, if you, say, one day wish your default spacing was not tabs, you could then set that through your local .vimrc
[19:52] <reisio> russelsteapot: if/when you find something in vim that you want to be different, that is the time to learn how to add something to ~/.vimrc to achieve that something
[19:52] <OerHeks> or other ppa .. ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:52] <apb1963_> OerHeks: That was prior lotuspsyche pointed them out.  I have since removed them.
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> apb1963_: something still is wrong, packages are scrambled
[19:53] <OerHeks> apb1963_, you might have remove lists, but not reversed packages, uninstall any wine completely
[19:54] <apb1963_> lotuspsychje: OerHeks: My current ppa list.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23104192/
[19:54] <russelsteapot> reisio, blackflow atm im trying to add vim-go, and its asking me to edit my ~/.vimrc file, which doesnt exist on my machine, so now seems like the time to learn how to add/override something
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:54] <OerHeks> oh, i stop.
[19:54] <apb1963_> OerHeks: I uninstalled wine prior to removing the ppas mentioned.
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> apb1963_: remove ALL unofficial ppa's from system
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | apb1963_
[19:55] <reisio> russelsteapot: when things don't exist, that usually just means you can make them
[19:55] <Exterminador> is there a way to check "estimated disk lifetime"?
[19:55] <reisio> russelsteapot: either save to that point from a text editor, or touch ~/.vimrc and open that empty file
[19:55] <blackflow> russelsteapot: then probably what vim-go is asking you to add to that file, you should add that. Do you have specific settings?
[19:55] <reisio> Exterminador: not usefully, no
[19:55] <reisio> Exterminador: there's also no useful reason to
[19:55] <reisio> if your disk is about to fail, you: need a new disk
[19:56] <reisio> if your disk is not about to fail, you: need a new disk
[19:56] <reisio> you always need another new disk, always
[19:56] <ghostnik11> so if my linux partition is on sda7 should i erase that, along with its swap partition then install choose install along side windows?
[19:56] <blackflow> Exterminador: it's called MTBF :)   and it's totally useless number because of M in it
[19:56] <reisio> there's no point in checking if you do
[19:56] <Exterminador> well, and a way to check if the disk is working properly or if it's dying?
[19:56] <reisio> Exterminador: using your system will suffice
[19:56] <reisio> if it's a server of some sort, you can keep track of how the things you're always running perform
[19:56] <blackflow> Exterminador: smartctl (part of smartmontools) can give you hints
[19:56] <reisio> that's much more useful than wasting time on disk checks
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> reisio: +1
[19:57] <Exterminador> i prefer do some disk checks reisio
[19:57] <blackflow> Exterminador: but, disks can fail with no hints from smartctl, and any hints by smartctl do not mean immediate failure, bit might. Note the extreme uncertainty in all of it.
[19:57] <reisio> ghostnik11: what's your end goal?
[19:57] <reisio> Exterminador: yeah, but you're new :)
[19:57] <reisio> they're a waste of time
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: as long as your hd works, use it, if it fails remove it
[19:58] <blackflow> Exterminador: disk checks are good, they're just a signal. More signals = better.