[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> alexbOrsova: I saw that.. great...   now write it up so we know what you did
[00:00] <bruce89> Ahmuck: I doubt it
[00:00] <runemaste644> how do i get it to run nvidia.ko? the error says no such device
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Ahmuck: what exactly are you trying to do
[00:00] <alexbOrsova> Jack_Sparrow: right...
[00:00] <Tux_TuX> hola alguien sabe de algun editor para formulas es que con el que trae integrado el openofice me estoy tardando años gracias
[00:00] <bruce89> Ahmuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[00:00] <Tux_TuX> soory
[00:01] <FluxD> Is there any other tool to mess with cellphones other than bitpim?
[00:01] <FluxD> !cellphone
[00:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:01] <soccer_hawk10> FluxD: what's wrong with bitpim
[00:01] <FluxD> !mobile
[00:01] <ubotu> Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded
[00:01] <Eagleray> Ahmuck: syslinux can probably do it
[00:01] <FluxD> soccer_hawk10: doesnt support my phone
[00:01] <Eagleray> Ahmuck: although why you'd want to....
[00:01] <soccer_hawk10> fluxd: ah, that would be a problem, yes :)
[00:01] <FluxD> :)
[00:02] <nickrud> !bluetooth
[00:02] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[00:02] <bruce89> !phone
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:02] <FluxD> and no bluetooth support :)
[00:02] <runemaste644> how do i get it to run nvidia.ko? the error says no such device
[00:02] <soccer_hawk10> is it an old phone?
[00:02] <bruce89> runemaste644: what do you mean by run, it's a kernel module
[00:02] <FluxD> soccer_hawk10: not really the features in it are really not that great
[00:02] <vishal_> hi, can someone help me please
[00:03] <runemaste644> yes, but it says no such device
[00:03] <bruce89> !question
[00:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:03] <eugene1> Is there a brainf*ck compiler? I can only find interpreters so far.
[00:03] <FluxD> !language | eugene1
[00:03] <ubotu> eugene1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:03] <incognito> hello
[00:03] <bruce89> it's a language, not swearing
[00:03] <incognito> I love ubuntu
[00:04] <osxdude|desktop> and /ame should be used very sparingly, especially if you're in more than a two channels.
[00:04] <soundray> eugene1: I think it's an interpreted language. No compilers that I know of.
[00:04] <vishal_> hi, can someone help me please, im trying to give a vmware machine my second HD but it doesnt take it
[00:04] <eugene1> Well I used an asterisk. How many is necessary to nto be swearing?
[00:04] <eugene1> soundray: ah ok
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> vishal_: try in #vmware
[00:05] <bruce89> eugene1: indeed
[00:05] <vishal_> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[00:05] <Eagleray> eugene1: it's an interpreted language - iirc the wikipedia entry for it is rather useful, although I've not looked at it for a while
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> vishal_: They will know more than we do
[00:05] <seqizz> hi, can i emulate leopard in linux (by qemu) , i have a legal way but i should know is wemu capable?
[00:05] <crush_groove> how do I apply an emerald theme ?
[00:05] <runemaste644> can someone please help me with nvidia.ko
[00:05] <runemaste644> it complains about no such device
[00:06] <mular> using sdparm --set=SCT = what number would I put in to make it spin down every 1 if not active?
[00:06] <seqizz> wemu = qemu
[00:06] <slugone> how can  i find out my default network interface name
[00:06] <soccer_hawk10> can someone help me find the cause of ubuntu 7.10 randomly freezing? i don't know where to start
[00:06] <runemaste644> do i need to make it use the nvidia_new
[00:06] <bruce89> slugone: ifconfig
[00:06] <Eagleray> I am trying to enable SHMConfig for my touchpad, but it's not working. The entry in xorg.conf is correct. How can I enable this?
[00:06] <seqizz> bys :D everybody has problems.. no answer :D
[00:06] <soundray> mular: to spin down your hard disk(s), you should configure laptop-mode-tools
[00:07] <slugone> u rule red typing ppl
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> soccer_hawk10: Have you used NON-ubuntu repos...  what all have you installed.. is this a laptop or desktop etc
[00:07] <maddash> Eagleray: confirm that your entry is working by checking out /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:07] <soundray> mular: edit /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[00:07] <RancidLM> hey all can some one help me with a problem with mouseemu, i have a touchpad on my dell inspron1420 and when i install mouseemu my touchpad stops working.. the buttons work but no motion off the touchpad..any ideas any one?
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone | jac
[00:07] <ubotu> jac: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[00:07] <mular> soundray, see I have a my book premium and it is set to spin down defaultly every 10mins
[00:07] <osxdude|desktop> and /ame should be used very sparingly, especially if you're in more than a two channels.
[00:07] <mular> I want to make it an hour.. I just don't know what the timer is with sdparm --set=SCT
[00:08] <soccer_hawk10> jack_sparrow: as far as i know, everything i've installed is from ubuntu's repos... i feel like compiz is causing it but i don't know why i get this feeling.  this is a desktop pc
[00:08] <mular> -S <n>
[00:08] <mular> 	--set SCT=<m>
[00:08] <mular> 	Standby condition timer, <n> has 5 second units (roughly) while <m> has 100 ms units thats from the how to
[00:08] <runemaste644> how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko?
[00:08] <mular> but I don't know what that means lol
[00:08] <vishal_> Jack_Sparrow: there is no-one replying there, I think its something to do with the permissions or something, can you help?
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> soccer_hawk10: have you tried turning off effects?
[00:08] <ozzloy> hey, if you get jinxed, are you still allowed  to type?
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> vishal_: no.. sorry I cant help with v-anything
[00:09] <Eagleray> maddash: interesting - it's loading, but seems to think there is no synaptics touchpad in this laptop
[00:09] <ozzloy> because it's still talking, kinda
[00:09] <osxdude> Uh...um..uh sorry...about that...um amsg that was of no use...um...yeah...ok...thats enugh of that
[00:09] <Eagleray> maddash: then it unloads the module again
[00:09] <runemaste644> ozzloy: i guess so
[00:09] <eugene1> ozzloy: well I'm pretty sure you are allowed to write stuff.
[00:09] <soccer_hawk10> Jack_Sparrow: well, the trouble with that is that i can't guess when these things will freeze
[00:09] <soundray> mular: what's a "my book premium"?
[00:09] <michael_> alexb0rsova: no dice.  with and without noapic+rghb in recovery mode, running /etc/init.d/gdm start or just startx turns the screen permanently black (and i can't get the error msgs because i'm in runlevel S.)
[00:09] <Eagleray> maddash: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -i synaptic" was the command
[00:09] <rsfriends> how do i get AWN on, and how?
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> soccer_hawk10: Worth your time to turn it off and wait then..
[00:09] <ozzloy> runemaste644: eugene1 thanks!
[00:09] <vishal_> can anybody help me assign an entire disk to a vmware machine please?
[00:09] <maddash> Eagleray: then you ought to change your "Driver ' synaptics ' " entry
[00:10] <maddash> Eagleray: er, try grepping -i for shm
[00:10] <soccer_hawk10> Jack_Sparrow: well, the thing is, i never had trouble until i changed my screen resolution...
[00:10] <mular> soundray: its an external hard drive ;)
[00:10] <mular> usb connect
[00:10] <soccer_hawk10> Jack_Sparrow: i don't know if that's what caused it or what... and i really love compiz, i'd kill me to remove it
[00:11] <Eagleray> maddash: change to what, it's a synaptics touchpad
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> soccer_hawk10: those "Cute Effects" can cause a multitude of problems...
[00:11] <soccer_hawk10> Jack_Sparrow: do you use them?
[00:11] <anathematic> how do i go about removing apache2 off my ubuntu server?
[00:11] <Eagleray> maddash: it's also complaining about the event device not existing (I don't have it compiled into this kernel), yet the touchpad works just fine
[00:11] <Aceazza> Anyone get an aircard working with Gutsy?
[00:11] <runemaste644> how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko?
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> soccer_hawk10: Then I cant help you.. turn off the effects long enough to see if that is the problem...   But I seem to remember looking at your sources page and you have installed things from outside the repos
[00:11] <Eagleray> maddash: grepping for shm says it's loading fine and has no problems
[00:12] <soundray> mular: you can't influence the spindown timer on those with sdparm.
[00:12] <soccer_hawk10> Jack_Sparrow: i don't think you've seen my sources page since i've never posted it...
[00:12] <bruce89> anathematic: sudo aptitude remove apache2 surely
[00:12] <Aceazza> Looks like the device is recognized. I just don't know where to go after I plug it in.
[00:12] <Jack_Sparrow> soccer_hawk10: Must have been a similar nick..
[00:12] <nettow0822_>  Does gusty nfs default to udp or tcp?
[00:12] <mular> read on google that people have? hrm
[00:12] <anathematic> bruce89: what if it was complied from source?
[00:12] <mular> just they wanted the spin down lowered =/
[00:12] <bruce89> ah
[00:12] <maddash> Eagleray: then your shmconfig is working and something else is wrong. if you're curious as to what driver you have, look in /sys/class/input/
[00:13] <ddadda> hey
[00:13] <runemaste644> how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko?
[00:13] <ddadda> any1 asleep ?
[00:13] <bruce89> anathematic: sudo make uninstall
[00:13] <ddadda> need help :)
[00:13] <huey> how do i actually boot into the os
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> soccer_hawk10: with tens of thousands of lines in here per day... I sometimes get confused..
[00:13] <maddash> runemaste644: do a 'mv' switcheroo?
[00:13] <anathematic> bruce89: sorry, where do i preform t hat command?
[00:13] <bruce89> hopefully you still have the source
[00:13] <soccer_hawk10> Jack_Sparrow: don't sweat it, i know you're just trying to help
[00:13] <maddash> oh dear.
[00:13] <spideyman> has anyone had any success with sonix sn9c325 chipset usb webcam?
[00:13] <bruce89> anathematic: in the apache2's source directory
[00:14]  * nickrud thought sparrows had excellent eyesight
[00:14] <runemaste644> maddash: not a good idea
[00:14] <michael_> hi, running gdm turns the monitor permanently black, i can no longer switch to tty1.  can still ssh, etc.  anyone know how to get graphics running?
[00:14] <soundray> mular: the scheme is described in man hdparm. You probably want to set 242
[00:14] <Eagleray> maddash: doesn't tell me - I have entries for input0...input7, mice, mouse0 and mouse1
[00:14] <maddash> runemaste644: because...?
[00:14] <anathematic> bruce89: so /etc/apache2/ right? (sorry not too familiar with this)
[00:14] <Eagleray> maddash: but nothing to indicate which driver it's trying to use
[00:14] <biouser> does anyone know what .xpt file is and what I might be able to open it with?
[00:14] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: but poor memory.. so it seems
[00:14] <soundray> mular: but like I said, I'd be surprised if it works...
[00:14] <runemaste644> it could really screw stuff up
[00:14] <bruce89> anathematic: I assume you installed it with sudo make install
[00:14] <Stormx2> michael_: Checked the xorg log?
[00:14] <Ahmuck> i want to create a boot floppy to boot ubuntu JeOS
[00:14] <maddash> Eagleray: because you're not looking hard enough. Hint: 'cat driver' in the subfolders.
[00:14] <nickrud> michael_, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg for a default setup
[00:15] <ddadda> I installed devilspie  . what i want to do is when i open the gnome terminal it should always open at workspace 2 ! but there is a prob ! it says Warning workspace number 2 does not exist !
[00:15] <michael_> Stormx2: where's it located, please?
[00:15] <anathematic> bruce89: yes but a while ago
[00:15] <Flare183> !grub | Ahmuck
[00:15] <ubotu> Ahmuck: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:15] <bruce89> anathematic: and I assume you still have the apache2 source
[00:15] <maddash> runemaste644: then stop trying to use nvidia_new.ko.
[00:15] <anathematic> bruce89: probably not
[00:15] <bruce89> anathematic: if not, it's probably not possible
[00:15] <anathematic> :<
[00:15] <Eagleray> maddash: oh... I'm an idiot, I assumed they were files... *bashes head on nearest brick wall*
[00:15] <Ahmuck> Flare183: i have not lost grub
[00:15] <ddadda> any solution to my prob?
[00:15] <anathematic> thanks =)
[00:15] <bruce89> anathematic: unless you redownload it
[00:15] <biouser> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/major/nhanes/nhanes2005-2006/demo_d.xpt
[00:15] <Ahmuck> does ubuntu have a directory where you can write a boot image for install?
[00:15] <Flare183> grub:> you can make boot floppy for grub
[00:15] <biouser> I think that it is a SAS file
[00:15] <runemaste644> maddash: thats like saying "well then stop trying to get xorg to work"
[00:15] <Stormx2> michael_, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:15] <bruce89> anathematic: I've hardly compiled from source though, so I don't really know
[00:15] <maddash> LjL: a rogue op?
[00:15]  * Flare183 says sorry
[00:16] <utty> whats a good program to convert my mp3s on my ipod to a supported file type
[00:16] <soundray> ddadda: maybe it's called "Desk 2". Right click the workspace switcher, select Preferences and check
[00:16] <michael_> nickrud: i just installed gutsy gibbon and have this problem (had to do alternate install) - would your command still be of use?
[00:16] <nickrud> michael_, what video card?
[00:16] <michael_> Stormx2: cat Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)':
[00:16] <ddadda> soundray i will thnx
[00:16] <LjL> maddash: sorry, had to test something
[00:16] <michael_> Stormx2: (EE) intel(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (3)
[00:16] <anathematic> bruce89: it's no problem, i might just see if i can enable these modules not without compiling from source again
[00:16] <nickrud> michael_, and to answer your question, probably not :)
[00:16] <michael_> Stormx2: (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[00:16] <varsendagger> hey i downloaded the new sunbird calener from moz and it is a compiled binary... how do i install it so i can make a launcher...   i have a older version of sunbird installed allready sunbird installed allready...
[00:16] <Stormx2> michael_: This happened after you enabled restricted drivers I assume?
[00:16] <maddash> runemaste644: that's like saying, "Don't expect to get anywhere without moving your legs."
[00:16] <michael_> nickrud: inherited this computer, has an aftermarket card probably for gaming (8 years ago), not sure what model or how to find out.
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> varsendagger: I can help with that..
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> varsendagger: one second please...
[00:17] <Flare183> I have no idea
[00:17] <nickrud> michael_, lspci | grep -i vga should tell you something
[00:17] <soundray> utty: mp3 is supported. You may have to install a codec for some programs to play mp3s.
[00:17] <Eagleray> maddash: "2007-12-19 09:02 device -> ../../../../devices/platform/i8042/serio1" - I'm guessing that means it's using a serial driver?
[00:17] <michael_> Stormx2: no, i don't know what restricvted  drivers means.  I just installed with alternate CD since couldn't run graphical installer.
[00:17] <Flare183> !mp3
[00:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:17] <biouser> anyone got any idea about .xpt?
[00:17] <biouser> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/major/nhanes/nhanes2005-2006/demo_d.xpt
[00:17] <Flare183> biouser:> i have no idea
[00:17] <michael_> nickrud: Thanks!  3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
[00:17] <soundray> varsendagger: probably put it in /usr/local/bin/
[00:17] <maddash> Eagleray: did I tell you to 'cat device'? i meant 'cat driver'
[00:17] <SonicChao> !xp
[00:17] <ubotu> XP, or "eXtreme Programming" is a style of programming, for more information see: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/
[00:17] <SonicChao> !xpt
[00:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xpt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:17] <nickrud> michael_, ah, I know that one well, ran it for several years.
[00:17] <bruce89> biouser: firefox extension surely
[00:18] <kitche> biouser: I think it deals with firefox
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> varsendagger: HEre is how I did that..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48782/
[00:18] <SonicChao> Isn't that XPI, bruce89 and kitche?
[00:18] <utty> yeah i want to play them on rythembox
[00:18] <biouser> it is an 'open with?' link
[00:18] <bruce89> oop
[00:18] <Stormx2> michael_: what does restricted-manager -l show?
[00:18] <ddadda> still nothing ! i dont know what to do ! :(
[00:18] <maddash> Eagleray: oh, I did tell you to 'cat driver'. the "device -> ...." just means that 'device' is a symlink -- don't worry about that.
[00:18] <varsendagger> cool thanks
[00:18] <utty> got xmms it works fine
[00:18] <Eagleray> maddash: you did say driver, but I have no 'driver' entry
[00:18] <Stormx2> yuk, xmms
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> varsendagger: Let me know if you get stuck
[00:19] <Eagleray> maddash: and yeah I know it's a symlink, as it's a device I can
[00:19] <ifireball> michael_: it seems that xorg trying to use a video mode that is unsuitable to your monitor
[00:19] <Eagleray> maddash: 't cat it and get any useful info
[00:19] <Flare183> biouser:> see this: http://filext.com/file-extension/xpt
[00:19] <bruce89> that file seems to be a load of text
[00:19] <soundray> ddadda: maybe change the workspace names to something that doesn't contain spaces
[00:19] <maddash> Eagleray: for instance, cat event*/device/driver/description
[00:19] <nickrud> michael_,  sudo nano /etc/11/xorg.conf , find the section "Device" , and change Driver to "tdfx"
[00:19] <michael_> Stormx2: about 10 lines of what look like a python trace... important-sounding line is: GDK_IS_SCREEN(screen) failed
[00:19] <biouser> SAS.XportTransportFile.701 			%ProgramFiles%\SAS\SAS9~1.1\CORE\SASEXE\SASOACT.EXE action
[00:19] <bruce89> some kind of database
[00:20] <biouser> that is the one
[00:20] <maddash> Eagleray: cat /sys/class/input/event*/device/driver/description
[00:20] <runemaste644> i tried using 'nvidia_new' as the driver but it failed
[00:20] <nickrud> Stormx2, the voodoo 3 is way too old for restricted manager
[00:20] <Eagleray> maddash: possibly I'm being incredibly stupud here, but can you tell me *exactly* which file to cat (the touchpad is mouse0)
[00:20] <biouser> I have SAS remotely through citrix, Flare183
[00:20] <bruce89> XP_PRO is one of the things in that file
[00:20] <Eagleray> maddash: I don't have the event input type compiled into my kernel
[00:20] <ddadda> soundray cant change the name of the workspaces
[00:20] <Stormx2> nickrud: I figured it might be too new, not up to speed with this.
[00:20] <Flare183> biouser:> wow
[00:20] <kitche> biouser: try opening it up in openoffice
[00:20] <michael_> ifireball: thanks, how did you infer that? (so i can learn)
[00:20] <Stormx2> michael_, I really don't know, sorry
[00:20] <maddash> Eagleray: oh, sorry. mouse0/device/driver/description, possibly?
[00:21] <michael_> nickrud: made the change to that one line: do i need to reboot to try it out, since my screen is black on the computer?
[00:21] <ifireball> michael_: experience :P
[00:21] <soundray> ddadda: why not?
[00:21] <bruce89> kitche: ain't going to work
[00:21] <michael_> Stormx2: thanks anyway for your help!
[00:21] <michael_> ifireball: eww :)
[00:21] <ddadda> checked in preferences dont have anything except to put more or less collumns
[00:21] <michael_> nickrud: or can i just run startx from this ssh window and hope for the best?
[00:21] <soundray> ddadda: in the lower part of the dialog, does it say "Workspace names" and give you a list?
[00:21] <Eagleray> maddash: much more like it ;-D - it's a PS/2 mouse driver according to that file
[00:21] <maddash> Eagleray: the /sys directory makes for an interesting theme park with obvious filenames
[00:22] <nickrud> michael_, run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart from ssh
[00:22] <ddadda> no
[00:22] <michael_> nickrud: doing now
[00:22] <soundray> ddadda: are you using dekstop effects?
[00:22] <runemaste644> and nv as the driver complains about a nonexistent tablet
[00:22] <ddadda> yes
[00:22] <Eagleray> maddash: so I see... I don't normally have anything to do with /sys, have never really needed to go there before
[00:22] <ifireball> michael_: essentially since non of the fallback mechanisms activates it means that xorg thinks everything is ok, because its not getting status from the screen correctly... you're using arather old CRT maybe?
[00:22] <michael_> nickrud: this caused my tty1 to suddenly show up!  and then every 2 seconds blink to black screen, then back again; about 5 times, then just showing the tty1 screen.
[00:23] <michael_> tty7 just has a blinking cursor.
[00:23] <ddadda> should i try disabling them ?
[00:23] <Eagleray> maddash: now that I know it's using a PS/2 driver, what exactly should I do with this info?
[00:23] <ZP> Anyone has any idea on how to recover (all or part of) the files in a reformated (fdisk), partially overwritten (8%), SATA disk ?
[00:23] <nickrud> michael_, ok, next step is setting up your monitor for X correctly, I'll give you a link
[00:23] <michael_> ifireball: likely; it's an emachines that is similarly very old
[00:23] <nickrud> !fixres | michael_
[00:23] <ubotu> michael_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:23] <michael_> nickrud: thanks!
[00:23] <soundray> ddadda: in that case I can't help you. I'm not even sure devilspie is compatible with desktop effects.
[00:23] <maddash> Eagleray: it's dubious that your touchpad is using the ps/2 driver. try another folder.
[00:23] <ddadda> ahm ok thnx anyway
[00:24] <nickrud> michael_, you need to define the horizontal and vertical refresh rates. If you want 3d accel, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d
[00:24] <slugone> hmm...how do i run a GUI program as Admin?
[00:24] <slugone> root
[00:24] <Delvien> Anyone running Feisty fawn here? i need something from your lists
[00:24] <soundray> ddadda: disabling effects is an option, of course
[00:24] <michael_> nickrud: thanks very much, i'll look at both links.
[00:24] <Flare183> !root | slugone
[00:24] <ubotu> slugone: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password.  Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:24] <outofrange> How do I configure ssh-askpass to run when I log into my Gnome session?
[00:24] <Flare183> sorry
[00:24] <Eagleray> maddash: maddash only other mouse is mouse1, and that's registering as a USB HID device, which means it's the USB mouse I also have plugged in
[00:24] <nickrud> michael_, it was a nice card in it's time, and will work great for you in 2d
[00:25] <runemaste644> how do i make it use nvidia new as the driver?
[00:25] <michael_> ifireball: i'm in gutsy, if it helps at all :D
[00:25] <maddash> slugone: try gksudo [gui cmd]
[00:25] <Delvien> Need a user running feisty fawn pls
[00:25] <Eagleray> maddash: so mouse0 has got to be the touchpad
[00:25] <Delvien> I need a pastebin of your sources.list
[00:25] <maddash> Eagleray: ls -l /sys/class/input
[00:25] <soundray> !easysource | Delvien
[00:25] <ubotu> Delvien: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[00:25] <ifireball> michael_: I meant gusty... my bad
[00:25] <michael_> all: thank you for your help and support - this channel is great!  i plan to donate my own time [once i get the $@*% system up] to helping others here.
[00:25] <slugone> 10-4 soo when i make the launcher i type.......!root | Wireshark & ??????? or just !root | wireshark
[00:25] <c-master> hello
[00:26] <c-master> how can i type "|" on ubuntu :(
[00:26] <maddash> slugone: geez. didn't you get my msg? gksudo.
[00:26] <maddash> slugone: gksudo wireshark
[00:26] <slugone> loll i got 2 messages :P thx
[00:26] <ddadda> soundray man thnks a lot
[00:26] <soundray> c-master: do you have a non-US keyboard?
[00:26] <ddadda> the problem was the effects
[00:26] <ddadda> ;)
[00:26] <ddadda> u rock
[00:26] <Eagleray> maddash: http://pastebin.org/12105
[00:27] <kitche> c-master: if you have a us standard keyboard it's by the enter key
[00:27] <c-master> soundray: i have
[00:27] <c-master> UTF-8
[00:27] <Delvien> soundray hope that has the file my friend needs, helping him install and get compiz running :P
[00:27] <maddash> Eagleray: like I said, /sys is a theme park. go exploring in input*
[00:27] <ddadda> gn
[00:27] <soundray> c-master: I mean the keyboard layout
[00:28] <c-master> TR
[00:28] <TheMusicGuy> Why doesn't ubuntu have the arch command
[00:28] <TheMusicGuy> ?
[00:28] <c-master> i couldn't do "glxinfo | grep rendering"
[00:28] <LjL> TheMusicGuy: the what?
[00:28] <TheMusicGuy> the "arch" command
[00:28] <Flare183> c-master:> why not
[00:28] <TheMusicGuy> XAMPP needs it
[00:29] <Eagleray> maddash: have already done so - mouse0 is a symlink to input5. cat input5/name gives me "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
[00:29] <slugone> WoOT U guys are Super Ultra Mega Moocho Grande HelpFull thanks
[00:29] <Flare183> c-master:> you have to do that in the terminal
[00:29] <Eagleray> maddash: so I'd say it's a fair bet that mouse0 is in fact the touchpad
[00:29] <maddash> Eagleray: congrats.
[00:29] <mular> its funny I am on google looking for a way to stop my drive from spinning down and theres website after website explaining how to prevent it from not spinning down =/
[00:29] <c-master> Flare183:
[00:29] <LjL> TheMusicGuy: never heard of it honestly
[00:29] <Eagleray> maddash: apologies for being a bit slow here
[00:29] <c-master> i try but
[00:29] <fabio_> hi people
[00:29] <daryl_> hey guys, how do I disable compiz and enable metacity?
[00:29] <ianmcorvidae> TheMusicGuy: It's equivalent to 'uname -m'
[00:29] <mular> hello
[00:29] <c-master> i couldn't type on terminal
[00:29] <V99_is_GIUSEPPE> hi!
[00:30] <fabio_> room emulator any one knows one better than xmame???
[00:30] <c-master> in windows i use ctrl + alt + - keys
[00:30] <TheMusicGuy> Is it safe then to put a script in /usr/bin that runs uname -m?
[00:30] <kitche> TheMusicGuy: I m pretty sure that is not a command
[00:30] <LjL> TheMusicGuy: better put it in /usr/local/bin
[00:30] <Flare183> daryl_:> metacity --replace
[00:30] <Flare183> c-master:> it's the "\" key
[00:31] <daryl_> Flare183, thats it?
[00:31] <fabio_> room emulator any one knows ??
[00:31] <ianmcorvidae> What's interesting is that I have that command on my feisty system; I'm wondering what provided it.
[00:31] <Flare183> daryl_:> yep
[00:31] <fabio_> i want to plat jolly card
[00:31] <ifireball> TheMusicGuy: if it does so little you might wanna look into making it an alias
[00:31] <nickrud> mular, have you checked out hdparm -S option? Set to 0, I believe
[00:31] <``> ..
[00:31] <fabio_> room emulator any one knows one better than xmame???
[00:31] <anathematic> how do i find out if apache2 was compiled from source or not on ubuntu server 7.04?
[00:31] <Flare183> c-master:> just press shift and then "\"
[00:31] <mular> yeah hdparm doesn't work tells me invalid argument
[00:32] <mular> from what I read sdparm will work but I don't know how to read the timer
[00:32] <TheMusicGuy> what would be the benefit of that over a script?
[00:32] <soundray> mular: try sdparm with 242
[00:32] <Eagleray> maddash: so now that I know the touchpad is mouse0, what should I be doing to get shared mem working?
[00:32] <TheMusicGuy> other than one less file on my system :)
[00:32] <maddash> fabio_: firstly, the correct term is, "ROM," not, "room." secondly, posting repeatedly inside of two minutes won't help your situation.
[00:32] <slugone> oh man if vista came with help like this lol............................................maybe it would only suck half as much
[00:32] <PriceChild> anathematic, it has to have been?
[00:32] <livingdaylight> anyone know how to restore Applications Menu?
[00:32] <mular> how many minutes does that equal?
[00:32] <PriceChild> anathematic, binary's don't really just appear :/
[00:32] <soundray> mular: 60
[00:33] <nickrud> mular, sudo hdparm -S 0 /dev/hda worked just fine here
[00:33] <Demonho-br> hello, im sharing a folder , and when i try to open this shared folder Windows ask me for login, but i never typed any user name and password, what login could i try ?
[00:33] <soccer_hawk10> anybody know any eyecandy other than kibadock or avant?
[00:33] <maddash> Eagleray: depends on whether there is a shm construct for your driver, and what you want to do with it.
[00:33] <biouser> SAS seems to be headlong against linux
[00:33] <soccer_hawk10> and of course, other than compiz/beryl
[00:33] <slugone> windows?
[00:33] <nickrud> mular, oh, sata, never mind me then
[00:33] <soundray> nickrud: mular has an external USB disk
[00:33] <ifireball> livingdaylight: restore from what?
[00:33] <soccer_hawk10> jack_sparrow: i think i figured it out
[00:33] <nickrud> soundray, picked up on that. slowly
[00:33] <Eagleray> maddash: I'm wanting to be able to mess with my touchpad settings without restarting Xoeg every time, using something like ksynaptics
[00:33] <mular> ya that works on my internal drive
[00:33] <livingdaylight> ifireball, i've broken it addring the geubuntu packages
[00:34] <fabio_> maddash: Thanks a lot -.-
[00:34] <soundray> c-master: still trying...
[00:34] <livingdaylight> my applications menu is empty now
[00:34] <Eagleray> maddash: the synaptic driver does support shared memory
[00:34] <soccer_hawk10> Jack_Sparrow: in my xorg.conf i didn't have the option "aiglx" "true" in there under serverlayout
[00:34] <Flare183> soundray:> he can't find the | key on his laptoo
[00:34] <Flare183> latop
[00:34] <Flare183> laptop
[00:34] <daryl_> hey guys, how do I disable compiz and enable metacity? I removed all the compiz packages but now metacity doesn't launch when I start gnome
[00:34] <soccer_hawk10> daryl_: alt+f2 metacity --replace
[00:34] <Eagleray> maddash: but as seen in the log before, for whatever reason Xorg is deciding that there is no synaptics touchpad and unloading the driver
[00:34] <ifireball> livingdaylight: well, 1st you need to figure out if its broken just for your user or for the entire system, try making a new user and logging into it
[00:34] <Flare183> daryl_:> i told you
[00:35] <c-master> soundray:
[00:35] <c-master> i try
[00:35] <soccer_hawk10> Flare183: what does the > do?
[00:35] <ifireball> TheMusicGuy: it can also work ever so slightly faster
[00:35] <livingdaylight> ifireball, its entire system bro
[00:35] <c-master> but always showing / or \ not |
[00:35] <Flare183> nothing
[00:35] <Josie> Can anyone tell me how to mount smb shares?
[00:35] <huey> im in text mode, whats the command to boot into the visual os
[00:35] <daryl_> Flare183, didn't work permenently
[00:35] <soundray> c-master: hold down Ctrl-Alt, then press u c 7
[00:35] <ifireball> livingdaylight: you tested with another user?
[00:35] <mular> well it didn't give me an error message
[00:35] <Flare183> daryl_: remove compiz
[00:35] <Josie> like I wanna mount \\server\share to \home\usr\share
[00:36] <soundray> c-master: sorry, u 7 c
[00:36] <daryl_> Flare183, I did
[00:36] <rgd> hello
[00:36] <Flare183> weird
[00:36] <maddash> Eagleray: I don't really know what to do if Xorg is haphazardly ignoring SHMConfig; let me see your xorg.conf
[00:36] <ifireball> livingdaylight: have you got .desktop files in "/usr/share/applications/" ?
[00:36] <Flare183> daryl_: emerald too?
[00:36] <TheMusicGuy> true, but I think I'll use a script anyway; their slightly easier to maintain
[00:36] <TheMusicGuy> *they're
[00:37] <acetech> i am attempting to install ubuntu on my machine with a 8600 GTS Nvidia video card.... Once X starts it will go to a blank screen.  Is there a paramater I need to pass for booting?
[00:37] <c-master> soundray: it effects as enter
[00:37] <TheMusicGuy> it worked...XAMPP isn't complaining anymore.
[00:37] <TheMusicGuy> thanks! :D
[00:37] <soundray> c-master: sorry, I made a mistake. It's Shift-Ctrl- u 7 c
[00:37] <ifireball> TheMusicGuy: your choice, but I think its a matter of taste, I rather have most such stuff concentrated in one .aliases file..
[00:37] <daryl_> Flare183, It launches metacity but when I kill X its disabled again
[00:37] <Josie> Can anyone help me with smb shares?
[00:37] <Flare183> daryl_: can't fix that
[00:38] <varsendagger> OMG   i Created a symbolic link from  a file to /usr/bin/
[00:38] <Flare183> !samba
[00:38] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[00:38] <anathematic> how do i check which modules are enabled on apache2 for ubuntu server 7.04?
[00:38] <Flare183> !omg | varsendagger
[00:38] <ubotu> varsendagger: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:38] <FluxD> !grub
[00:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:38] <Eagleray> maddash: http://pastebin.org/12107
[00:38] <livingdaylight> ifireball, /usr/share/application only has icons in it
[00:38] <woxiguilin> 有会中文的吗
[00:38] <Flare183> !jp
[00:38] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[00:38] <varsendagger> !!!   i Created a symbolic link from  a file to /usr/bin/
[00:39] <varsendagger> is that bad
[00:39] <c-master> soundray: it ' s ok
[00:39] <c-master> but is not there any short cut
[00:39] <doorknob60> hey, i need help. My gnome won't start, just makes me glad I installed KDE a few days ago
[00:39] <kitche> varsendagger: no not really just have to remember that you made that symlink :)
[00:39] <Demonho-br> Flannel, that is chinese
[00:39] <acetech> i am attempting to install ubuntu on my machine with a 8600 GTS Nvidia video card.... Once X starts it will go to a blank screen.  Is there a paramater I need to pass for booting?
[00:40] <soundray> c-master: I think there is, but I wouldn't know where on a TR keyboard.
[00:40] <c-master> i do shift + ctrl + (fn) + u 7 c
[00:40] <varsendagger> kitche:  can i not delete that file?
[00:40] <Flare183> !tr
[00:40] <c-master> for only |`
[00:40] <kitche> Demonho-br: Flannel hasn't said anything for hours :)
[00:40] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[00:40] <Flare183> try that
[00:40] <Demonho-br> Flare183,  that is chinese
[00:40] <Demonho-br> kitche, ;)
[00:40] <kitche> varsendagger: well when you delete the file that symlink won't work anymore
[00:40] <Flare183> tr is ?
[00:41] <olpc`> oxlaptop mofo
[00:41] <S4N3>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[00:41] <olpc`> tinykeys weeeeeeee
[00:41] <soundray> c-master: maybe the people in #ubuntu-tr will know.
[00:41] <c-master> soundray:
[00:41] <c-master> everybody is sleeping now :D
[00:41] <woxiguilin> 有会中文的吗
[00:41] <c-master> now here is midnight :)
[00:42] <Flare183> better run
[00:42] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, does someone know here if it si possible to stick different resolutions to different destktops ?
[00:42] <r4wMUnt34q> can anyone help me please ?
[00:42] <Flare183> c-master: it's 7:42 pm here
[00:42] <Flare183> !ask | r4wMUnt34q
[00:42] <ubotu> r4wMUnt34q: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:42] <Fyda> !cn | woxiguilin
[00:42] <ubotu> woxiguilin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[00:42] <maddash> Eagleray: it looks fine
[00:42] <Fyda> Flare183: That was not Japanese, that was Chinese :P
[00:42] <maddash> what about your Xorg.0.log?
[00:42] <Flare183> sorry
[00:43] <Eagleray> maddash: hang on, I'll pastebin it
[00:43] <maddash> Eagleray: before you do that, what happens wheen you run qsynaptics?
[00:43] <ifireball> AutoMatriX: you mean to different virtual desktops or to different screens?
[00:44] <billenium> how can i get the latest libc?
[00:44] <c-master> !ask | |
[00:44] <ubotu> |: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:44] <c-master> :p
[00:44] <livingdaylight> ifireball, sorry
[00:44] <AutoMatriX> ifireball, I mean having 640*800 on desktop 1, 1204*768 on desktop 2 and 1400*1050 on the third one
[00:45] <livingdaylight> /usr/share/applications doens't have .desktop
[00:45] <Eagleray> maddash: http://pastebin.org/12108
[00:45] <soundray> billenium: that question does not make sense on Ubuntu. Get a distribution that lets you be on the bleeding edge, like Debian Sid
[00:45] <AutoMatriX> ifireball, IRC, 2 is normal use and 3 is gps and other 'car' software
[00:45] <r4wMUnt34q> So, I was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable
[00:45] <c-master> soundray: what about paste's short cut :(
[00:46] <j1solutions> all
[00:46] <r4wMUnt34q> i can login only by memorying what ive done and what i wrote
[00:46] <j1solutions> hello all
[00:46] <Eagleray> maddash: if I run ksynaptics (iirc the same program as a kcm shell) it gives me an error telling me to add the SHMConfig line to Xorg.conf - which I have already done
[00:46] <soundray> c-master: sorry?
[00:46] <DIL> is elementary, but How do i view the content of a file from the terminal ?
[00:46] <j1solutions> has anyone had really flaky intermittent connectivity with both a hardwireed NIC and wireless adaptor in gutsy on a compaq laptop?
[00:46] <ifireball> AutoMatriX: I don't think you can do that, closest thing I can think of is running several X servers on the same machine with different configs
[00:46] <c-master> ctrl +v = paste in windows what about in ubuntu
[00:46] <soundray> DIL: cat file
[00:46] <kitche> DIL: either with cat or a n editor
[00:46] <DIL> thanks
[00:47] <j1solutions> i'm hearing of issues with network-manager
[00:47] <soundray> c-master: use the middle mouse button
[00:47] <ifireball> livingdaylight: I meant files with a .desktop extension
[00:47] <biouser> I am going to try to wine MS IE unfortunately
[00:47] <r4wMUnt34q> so my question is, can I set resolution or something related to it in recovery mode as root ?
[00:47] <nettow0822_> Does gusty nfs version 3 default to tcp?
[00:47] <soundray> !ies4linux | biouser
[00:47] <ubotu> biouser: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[00:47] <sysdef> r4wMUnt34q: are you sure you don't typed your password into the nickname field?
[00:47] <michael_> Hi again, bad news - the screenres fixes still didn't get graphics up and running.  each restart of gdm still leaves the Alt-F7 screen with a blinking cursor.
[00:48] <AutoMatriX> ifireball, that's somethng worth to check, but how does one swhitch servers ??? with a shortuct ?
[00:48] <michael_> at which i'm able to type, to no effect.
[00:48] <kitche> wow ion3 is a very old version
[00:48] <soundray> michael_: try Alt-F9
[00:48] <biouser> soundray, biouser@biouser-laptop:~/ies4linux-2.99.0$ ./ies4linux
[00:48] <biouser> You need to install cabextract first!
[00:48] <biouser> Download it here: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php
[00:48] <michael_> the latest xorg log had an error that no screen with appropriate settings could be found.
[00:48] <soundray> biouser: 'sudo apt-get install cabextract'
[00:48] <michael_> soundray: alt-f9 had the last two bootup OKs on it - Battery and one other.
[00:48] <r4wMUnt34q> sysdef: No, I logged in, my background changed
[00:48] <zerovsion> i'm trying to install the tundradraw ansi editor in ubuntu gutsy but when i type sudo dpkg --install tundradraw-0.5b1-1_i386.deb i get the error cannot access archive: No such file or directory, is there a software source i need to add somewhere?
[00:48] <Flare183> !paste | biouser
[00:48] <michael_> soundray: no i take that back, that was F8
[00:48] <ubotu> biouser: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:48] <michael_> soundray: F9 was blank.
[00:48] <qu1et_ubu> Hello
[00:48] <Netham45> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200185464950 < is this good RAM?
[00:48] <biouser> soundray, thanks man
[00:49] <sysdef> r4wMUnt34q: kk ;)
[00:49] <ifireball> AutoMatriX: essentially you run them on different virtual terminals, so you switch with ctrl+alt+fX
[00:49] <biouser> Flare183, ok
[00:49] <soundray> michael_: sorry, was worth a try
[00:49] <Flare183> no problem
[00:49] <Josie> smb4K is so much easier than editing fstab. I highly suggest that for anyone who wants to mount smb shares
[00:49] <michael_> soundray: sure, np
[00:49] <RancidLM> how would i disable mouseemu from start up its in /etc/init.d   is there a way to disable it so i have to start it manually?
[00:49] <kitche> !offtopic | Netham45
[00:49] <ubotu> Netham45: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:49] <Netham45> =/
[00:49] <Netham45> sorry...
[00:49] <Dorico> o
[00:49] <r4wMUnt34q> sysdef: i made a topic in the forum where it is more explained
[00:49] <AutoMatriX> ifireball, that's not gonna to be easy with a stylus on a tablet-pc
[00:49] <Eagleray> maddash: have just installed and tried qsynaptics, and it tells me to enable SHMConfig in Xorg.conf and install the synaptics driver
[00:49] <michael_> the specific error is: '(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[00:49] <michael_> '
[00:49] <livingdaylight> ifireball, sorry, i don't see any(had another look)
[00:50] <Eagleray> maddash: however clearly the synaptics driver is already installed (as Xorg is loading it) and SHMConfig is already enabled in Xorg.conf
[00:50] <qu1et_ubu> First time ubuntu user here...
[00:50] <michael_> oh, and still: (EE) VESO(0): V_BIOS address 0x56a0 out of range
[00:50] <r4wMUnt34q> sysdef: Im glad I have a dualboot with XP, because by now my NTBK would be useless, though I like ubuntu a lot more
[00:50] <qu1et_ubu> ...having trouble getting my installation to connect to the internet
[00:50] <michael_> anybody got ideas?
[00:50] <ifireball> livingdaylight: you looking with a terminal or with some gui? (I gotta ask...)
[00:51] <qu1et_ubu> I checked the help documentation, and ifconfig eth1 fails
[00:51] <ifireball> AutoMatriX: indeed...
[00:51] <silvertip257> When using qemu to test a CD image, I get this message:  Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated
[00:51] <r4wMUnt34q> I was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable. My question is, if I can do it as root in recovery mode somehow or I need to reinstall ubuntu :(
[00:51] <livingdaylight> ifireball, with some gui
[00:51] <qu1et_ubu> but ifconfig eth0 worked
[00:52] <AutoMatriX> ifireball, thanks for ideas, anyway, it did no harm :D
[00:52] <ifireball> livingdaylight: do it with the terminal: "ls /usr/share/applications"
[00:52] <michael_> ifireball: any other ideas for attacking my graphics issues, since the fixres documents didn't work?
[00:52] <maddash> Eagleray: you compiled your kernel without events, right? does that mean that lsmod|grep evdev gives nothing?
[00:52] <maddash> Eagleray: because I think you might need the evdev module
[00:53] <vishal_> hi, how do i add myself to the disk group?
[00:53] <ifireball> michael_: do you have your screen's documentation by any chance?
[00:53] <Eagleray> maddash: maddash I don't use modules - the only module loaded is the nvidia one, everything else is compiled into the kernel
[00:53] <Eagleray> maddash: isis:/sys/class/input/input5# lsmod
[00:53] <Eagleray> Module                  Size  Used by
[00:53] <Eagleray> nvidia               7005796  26
[00:53] <biouser> ui/pygtk/python-gtk.sh: line 6:  6761 Aborted
[00:53] <michael_> ifireball: nope, except that it's an eMachines eView 15w2
[00:53] <livingdaylight> ifireball, oh, yea! lots!
[00:53] <qu1et_ubu> hmmmmm....  Anyone interested in helping out a newbie?
[00:53] <aehgts> what can we do for you?
[00:54] <r4wMUnt34q> I was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable
[00:54] <maddash> Eagleray: wow.
[00:54] <Eagleray> maddash: I'll try recompiling with the events interface added, and see if that helps
[00:54] <maddash> Eagleray: why do you do that?
[00:54] <qu1et_ubu> having trouble connecting to the internet
[00:54] <vishal_> can someone help please, how do i add myself to the disk group?
[00:54] <Eagleray> maddash: I do it for speed and convenience
[00:54] <ifireball> livingdaylight: as it should be, then its not what I thought...
[00:54] <michael_> qu1et_ubu: i'll try my best, any details?
[00:54] <sub[t]rnl> vishal_: sudo addgroup username groupname
[00:55] <livingdaylight> ifireball, does that mean you can't help me restore Applications menu?
[00:55] <qu1et_ubu> michael - ifconfig eth1 fails
[00:55] <Sparkizzy> i downloaded and burned a ubuntu image. when i boot from it i get installation options, but i don't want to install it (yet). how can i use it without installing?
[00:55] <vishal_> sub[t]rnl: ty
[00:55] <Eagleray> maddash: as I am starting from allnoconfig anyway, I may as well compile them in and avoid the overhead of module communication
[00:55] <qu1et_ubu> michael - but ifconfig eth0 works
[00:55] <qu1et_ubu> michael - ping fails
[00:55] <michael_> qu1et_ubu: do you have a second card?  or a wireless?
[00:55] <qu1et_ubu> no, just one card
[00:55] <Eagleray> maddash: current kernel is vanilla 2.6.24-rc5, configured for this laptop from an allnoconfig
[00:55] <ifireball> michael_: I think what you need to do is adjust the "Horizsync" and "Vertrefresh" in xorg.conf, try websearching to see what they need to be for your monitor
[00:56] <r4wMUnt34q> Sparkizzy: Click on Run or install or whatever the first option is
[00:56] <bastian> Hello
[00:56] <r4wMUnt34q> the system will load into your RAM
[00:56] <bastian> Short question
[00:56] <Sparkizzy> ah
[00:56] <ifireball> michael_: or you can do some trial and error, lowering the values
[00:56] <bastian> i added a new partition in /etc/fstab
[00:56] <michael_> ifireball: i tried this (it was in the help.ubuntu.org/community/video-problems page.
[00:56] <Eagleray> maddash: anything else you suggest I add, seeing as I'm recompiling with event anyway?
[00:56] <Sparkizzy> kthnx r4wMUnt34q
[00:56] <michael_> ifireball: no difference.  also tried all the other suggestions on that page.
[00:56] <vishal_> sub[t]rnl: do you know why i get permission denied on this : dd if=/dev/sdb of=windowsxp.mbr bs=512 count=63
[00:56] <bastian> Now i've got autmatically an Icon on my desk
[00:56] <r4wMUnt34q> you can install it when it is loaded if you want
[00:56] <bastian> how can i prevent this
[00:56] <maddash> Eagleray: nope.
[00:57] <livingdaylight> ifireball, is that a no?
[00:57] <michael_> qu1et_ubu: that is, what does eth1 represent that you're trying to get up?
[00:57] <r4wMUnt34q> np
[00:57] <ifireball> michael_: did that page also tell you how to disable the EDID registers?
[00:57] <michael_> ifireball: hmm, don't recall that, let me go look
[00:57] <ifireball> livingdaylight: well, not without some research, I'm afraid I can't do it currently
[00:57] <Eagleray> maddash: then I'll be back in 15-20 mins or so after recompile/reboot and recompiling the nvidia module
[00:57] <aehgts> bastian: the icon usually appears when you don't have an entry in fstab. For me, once I added my partitions in and restarted the icons were gone.
[00:57] <livingdaylight> ifireball, ok
[00:57] <qu1et_ubu> michael - The only reason I tried eth1, is b/c that's what the help documentation suggested
[00:58] <bastian> k, i'll try another restart thanks
[00:58] <michael_> ifireball: the only mention of edid on that page is when dealing with nvidia drivers which i'm not using - Option "UseEdidFreqs" False
[00:58] <michael_> qu1et_ubu: but you said eth0 works, correct?  can you get to the internet via eth0?
[00:58] <qu1et_ubu> michael - When that failed, I decided the try eth0 to see what happened
[00:58] <aehgts> bastian: try ctrl-alt-backspace to restart gnome first
[00:59] <qu1et_ubu> michael - How do I configure linux to use eth0 ?
[00:59] <ifireball> michael_: try that, I think it may be ignoring the manual "Horizsync" and "Vertrefresh" if EDID values are available
[00:59] <aehgts> bastian: that'll log you out too though
[00:59] <qu1et_ubu> argh (phone)
[00:59] <michael_> qu1et_ubu: sorry, i thought that you had said that eth0 worked fine.  i don't know how to manually tell it what name to use for your network card.
[00:59] <ifireball> michael_: also, try commenting out and ModeLines...
[00:59] <woxiguilin>  Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend!
[00:59] <woxiguilin>  Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend!
[00:59] <pike_> qu1et_ubu: gksu gedit /etc/mtab  perhaps
[01:00] <woxiguilin>  Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend!
[01:00] <Flare183> !repeat | woxiguilin
[01:00] <ubotu> woxiguilin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:00] <michael_> ifireball: do i use UseEdid, or UseEdidFreq, or something else?
[01:00] <livingdaylight> anyone help fix my Applicataions Menu?
[01:00] <pike_> qu1et_ubu: wait
[01:00] <r4wMUnt34q> Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on.
[01:00] <bastian> ok
[01:00] <ifireball> michael_: try setting useEdid to false
[01:00] <SpookyET> Has anyone used fuse with sshfs or fusesmb? Is it supposed to be ungodly slow?
[01:01] <woxiguilin> OK
[01:01] <r4wMUnt34q> Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the terminal ?
[01:01] <michael_> ifireball: just to make sure - my HorizSync and VertRefresh settings were added to the "MOnitor" section, but I should put "UseEdid false" into the "Screen" section - right?
[01:02] <Aquilai> I've accidentally mucked up my graphics driver thing so now I can only use the text interface instead of gnome gui.  The internet is also not connected in the CLI. How do I get that to connect?
[01:02] <Aquilai> I might need it to install my graphics driver again
[01:02] <gribouille> hi
[01:02] <michael_> Aquilai: does "sudo ifup eth0" work?
[01:03] <gribouille> does ubuntu use NetworkManager ?
[01:03] <Aquilai> I haven't tried because I'm new to linux :/
[01:03] <ifireball> michael_: I think you put it in your device section, also comment out the "Option "DPMS"" line
[01:03] <Aquilai> but presumably that's to connect to my network card then
[01:03] <michael_> Aquilai: no problem, try it and then type "ifconfig" and see if eth0 says UP or DOWN in its pile of information
[01:03] <livingdaylight> Does someone know how to fix Applications Menu?
[01:03] <fsckr> is OSS better than ALSA?  I have never used OSS
[01:03] <michael_> Aquilai: yes, sudo means "run this as root (administrator)", ifup means "turn on this interface", and "eth0" is usually the name of your wired internet card.
[01:04] <gribouille> does ubuntu use NetworkManager ?
[01:04] <michael_> ifireball: will put it in Device section; I saw nothing about ModeLines, which you mentioned above; and I'll comment out DPMS as well.
[01:04] <Aquilai> okay cheers. also is there a text based IRC so that once I get the net working I can still ask for help?
[01:04] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: what's wrong with the Applications menu ?
[01:04] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, its empty
[01:05] <Fjodor> fsckr: OSS belong to the olden days. ALSA is it's successor
[01:05] <ifireball> michael_: you don't have any "ModeLine" lines in your xorg.conf?
[01:05] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: what is in System->Preferences->Main Menu ?
[01:05] <SonicChao> !alsa
[01:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:05] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, i was messing with geubuntu; added the packages but it didn't work out. coming back to gnome i find Applications Menu empty
[01:05] <michael_> ifireball: correct.
[01:05] <DigitalNinja> is there an easy way to download youtube videos?
[01:06] <Aquilai> okay I'll just give it a try
[01:06] <ifireball> michael_: well, one less thing to worry about... ;)
[01:06] <michael_> ifireball: with DPMS commented out and UseEdid=false in "Device" section, I restarted gdm; and now Alt-F7 gives me a blinking cursor instead of giving me nothing at all.
[01:06] <fsckr> i think sound support is the only thing lacking in linux these days. You just about have to pull teeth in order to get 5.1 working and if you get it working its not true 5.1 :_
[01:06] <michael_> [nothing at all = refusing to switch from whatever tty i'm currently at.]
[01:06] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, like nothing
[01:06] <Fjodor> DigitalNinja: Try freshmeat.net. Look for youtube-dl
[01:06] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: ok, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" - that should put your system back to what it was when you first installed it
[01:06] <DigitalNinja> Fjodor: got it
[01:07] <michael_> ifireball: '(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration'
[01:07] <dadehoog> any new programs/config that you've done should be retained, but you'll have all the default stuff back again too
[01:07] <mallockilx> I have a server that just ran out of memmory. I have console access through a kvm, but i can't turn off the power reset it. What can I do? I have tried ctr-alt-delete a million times while it complains about having run out of memmory..
[01:07] <liquidfire> wohoo, finnaly i got oracle xe and oracle sql dev running o/
[01:07] <michael_> ifireball: even more helpful: '(WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:11:0) found'
[01:07] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, this is what it looks like http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgp8.png
[01:07] <ifireball> michael_: hmm... can you paste the whole file to pastebin
[01:08] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: what is alacarte-made ?
[01:08] <michael_> ifireball: sorry, what's pastebin?  and, do you mean the Xorg log or xorg.conf?
[01:08] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, no idea
[01:08] <ifireball> michael_: log
[01:08] <NetLarIrvine> I am on Ubuntu website, it says that requirments for Ubuntu desktop is 256 mg ram, that is right?
[01:08] <ifireball> !pastebin | michael_
[01:08] <ubotu> michael_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <NetLarIrvine> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
[01:08] <biouser> The program 'ies4linux-gtk.py' received an X Window System error.
[01:08] <TeslaDave> I have a question, I was hoping someone can help me, its with regard to ssh and X forwarding, but using a windows X client and accessing from windows (32bit) my (64bit) ubuntu Gusty machine
[01:08] <biouser> do y'all think it will still work?
[01:08] <Amaranth> dadehoog: it means alacarte made it but someone removed the metadata for it that shows the real name
[01:09] <qu1et_ubu> michael, pike -- OK, I'm back
[01:09] <dadehoog> livingdaylight, Amaranth, indeed
[01:09] <r4wMUnt34q> Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the terminal ?
[01:09] <jack_> what is the best program to copy dvds?
[01:09] <qu1et_ubu> I'm probably not understanding correctly:
[01:09] <techqbert> my power supply only has two SATA connectors.  how mcuh do more adapters cost?
[01:09] <michael_> qu1et_ubu: work with pike, please - i'm attacking my own prob at the minute (and probably not able to help you anyway :( )
[01:09] <pike_> qu1et_ubu: i dont know where that config file went in gutsy if youre in feisty you should be able to edit it to associate mac with device
[01:09] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, anyway to restore to default?
[01:09] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: as I suggested above, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" - that should bring the menu back to the default arrangement
[01:09] <r4wMUnt34q> Now, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the recovery mode ?
[01:09] <Fjodor> jack_: dd
[01:10] <ifireball> michael_: also if you have "busid" line in your "Device" section you can disable it (assuming you only have one gfx card) and make sure you got the right driver
[01:10] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, ok, did that but it hasn't
[01:10] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, do i need to reboot?
[01:10] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: log out, and log in again
[01:10] <jack_> Fjodor: thanks :)
[01:10] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, Places and System is fine - its just the Applications Menu
[01:10] <qu1et_ubu> pike_ OK
[01:10] <TeslaDave> I am having problems getting X to forward to my windows machine when using a X client
[01:10] <michael_> ifireball: there's the old video card which seems to do nothing, even in win98 which i blew away, and then the new voodoo card... not sure if this matters.
[01:10] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: log out and log in again
[01:11] <michael_> ifireball: no idea how to check if i have the right driver; all i know is that "intel" didn't work, but "tdfx" at least gives me a cursor!
[01:11] <Fjodor> jack_: dd if=/dev/dvd of=some-file-name.iso bs=8192
[01:11] <fairhonanth> hey guys
[01:11] <drew_chicago> anyone know of a easier way to whitelist senders in Evolution using spamassassin?
[01:11] <fairhonanth> what's
[01:11] <fairhonanth> up
[01:11] <fairhonanth> ????
[01:11] <livingdaylight> Amaranth, i tried geubuntu but had troubles with applications menu in it and they at #geubuntu tried to help me and must have in the process removed the metadata
[01:11] <ifireball> michael_: no that cursor is no good, it means X isn't loading
[01:11] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: how are you doing it at the moment ?
[01:11] <qu1et_ubu> pike_ Just to be clear:  ifconfig eth0 does work ... but apparently my network connection is configured to use eth1
[01:11] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, I edit the userprefs
[01:11] <michael_> ifireball: i've commented out the BusID line.  What driver do you recommend I use, if not tdfx?
[01:12] <michael_> ifireball: or how to find out what to use?
[01:12] <pike_> qu1et_ubu: well you can change that by gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:12] <qu1et_ubu> ok cool
[01:12] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: "Mark as Junk" not linked to spamassassin ?
[01:12] <pike_> qu1et_ubu: or in the gui but im not familiar with it
[01:12] <qu1et_ubu> Thanks!
[01:12] <_wretched> The title bars are ultra small and I can barely hit the 'close' or 'maximize' buttons, how do I change the size in gnome?
[01:12] <pike_> np
[01:12] <qu1et_ubu> I prefer command line
[01:13] <ifireball> find the card you want to use with lspci, make sure the numbers in the beginning of the ones are the same as in the busid line, don't comment it
[01:13] <liquidfiree> whatś the command to see the channel list with x-chat
[01:13] <liquidfiree> ?
[01:13] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: you've got the Evolution spamassassin plug-in installed ?
[01:13] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, I have been marking them as Not Junk and it moves that one email to the infolder but next time I get another from that sender it goes to junk
[01:14] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, I do believe I have the plugin installed
[01:14] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: ok, so spamassassin isn't learning from your input ?
[01:14] <ifireball> michael_:  find the card you want to use with lspci, make sure the numbers in the beginning of the ones are the same as in the busid line, don't comment it
[01:14] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, right it doesn't learn
[01:15] <ifireball> michael_: if its is a 3dfx card then you should use the tdfx driver, not sure the vesa driver will even work with it
[01:15] <DIL> !less
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about less - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <michael_> ifireball: ah, i get you.  ok, lspci shows 2 cards, and the important one is 01:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01).
[01:15] <michael_> so i should have BusID "01:0b.0" under "Device"?
[01:15] <ifireball> michael_: I think so
[01:15] <ifireball> michael_: w8
[01:15] <michael_> ifireball: or rather, PCI:01:0b.0 i'd guess
[01:16] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, no cigar
[01:16] <michael_> ifireball: waiting
[01:16] <ifireball> michael_: yeah the 2nd one
[01:16] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: sorry, no more ideas from me ...
[01:16] <michael_> ifireball: ok, now trying gdm restart
[01:16] <gribouille> does anyone know anything about NetworkManager ?
[01:16] <livingdaylight> Anyone else got any ideas on how to fix Applications Menu
[01:17] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: ok, seems that evolution spam filtering is less than perfect ... quite a few bugs reported, I'm just having a look at them in Launchpad
[01:17] <livingdaylight> Amaranth, you seemed to know what is up
[01:17] <fenris> hi
[01:17] <michael_> ifireball: i'm not getting any movement on Alt-F7 or F9, except for 1 short blackout followed by returning to the old blinking cursor screen.
[01:17] <michael_> ifireball: (after doing a gdm restart)
[01:17] <michael_> ifireball: anyway, now trying to figure out how to copy text into paste.ubuntu-nl.org from a Cygwin sshd window :)
[01:17] <ifireball> michael_: take a look in the log file again, also paste it please
[01:18] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, I also can't find ANY gui interface for spamassassin. I know the plugin is installed but the configure button doesn't do anything
[01:18] <ifireball> michael_: you might wanna try putty
[01:18] <michael_> ifireball: yes, thanks
[01:18] <michael_> ifireball: don't have it on this machine because cygwin feels even more like linux :)
[01:18] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: could you try closing Evolution, then opening a terminal, and running "evolution" ? That way we'll get some extra information about what is and isn't happening ?
[01:19] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, will do
[01:19] <ifireball> michael_: it doesn't mean you need to suffer that silly featureless cmd window... run an xterm in cygwin maybe?
[01:19] <gribouille> hey, are you sleeping or what ?
[01:19] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, ok I started it from terminal
[01:20] <dadehoog> dadehoog: okeydoke, now try an set something as Junk or Not Junk ... is there anything in the terminal ?
[01:20] <michael_> ifireball: ooh, that's a thought... although don't i have to have X running on my linux box in order to attach a remote xterm to it?
[01:21] <ifireball> michael_: iv you've got cygwin you can run X on windows...
[01:21] <michael_> ifireball: oh sweet, i had no idea.
[01:21] <michael_> ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48790/
[01:21] <Eagleray> ifireball: XMing is a better solution though - it runs faster, and you don't need cygwin installed for it
[01:22] <HoNgOuRu> hi
[01:22] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: okeydoke, now try an set something as Junk or Not Junk ... is there anything in the terminal ? Also, try and use the "configure" button for spamassassin ?
[01:22] <michael_> ifireball: holy crap, X was just two keystrokes away and i hadn't known :)
[01:22] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, ok hold on
[01:22] <livingdaylight> Anyone know how to fix an Applications Menu?
[01:22] <ifireball> Eagleray: no argument, but he already has cygwin...
[01:23] <biouser> is IE 6 in the XP era?
[01:23] <dorwardv> i have a bluetooth network adapter, a wireless network adapter and a PCI netword adapter.  each of these adapters connect to different network with different privileges, some websites are block when using one but not on the others, is there anyway to choose which connection i would like to be active without disabling other devices?
[01:23] <michael_> ifireball: i assume you saw the URL pasted for my Xorg.0.log output
[01:23] <HoNgOuRu> I am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found?????
[01:24] <HoNgOuRu> I did chroot /media/ubuntu
[01:24] <michael_> biouser: yep
[01:24] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, first I flagged an amazon email as junk terminal posted "report junk?? Amazon.com"
[01:24] <HoNgOuRu> plseas help
[01:24] <ifireball> michael_: yeah, it seems you're still using "vesa"
[01:24] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: ok, that _sounds_ good ... but ..?
[01:25] <HoNgOuRu> I am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found?????
[01:25] <HoNgOuRu> plseas help
[01:25] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, next I tried configure the spamassassin plugin and that didn't do anything
[01:25] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: right, nothing on the terminal at all ?
[01:25] <fenris> i am trying to configure wlan on my new gutsy install, but i dont get any connection, and it keeps deleting my network key from the configuration dialog, whats wrong?
[01:25] <HoNgOuRu> neither sda or hda ---.....help please
[01:25] <ifireball> michael_: lets do some cleanup, make sure you don't have any gdm org X processes running, then delete the logfile and try again
[01:25] <drew_chicago> right nothing about the configure attempt in terminal at all
[01:25] <michael_> ifireball: got it
[01:25] <HoNgOuRu> I am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found?????
[01:25] <drew_chicago> dadehoog right nothing about the configure attempt in terminal at all
[01:26] <livingdaylight> Can someone give me their applications.menu in  /etc/xdg/menus please?
[01:26] <HoNgOuRu> neither sda or hda ---.....help please
[01:26] <ifireball> michael_: e.g. gdm _or_ X processes
[01:26] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: odd, hang on I'm just installing spamassassin here ...
[01:26] <michael_> ifireball: can i just do a ps gax | grep -i x, and look for things suspicious?
[01:26] <michael_> ifireball: or is there a better was?
[01:26] <biouser> michael_, I am having to do wine -age to do some things for work without using windows itself.... so i was wondering: if i am wine-ing IE6 I should get the XP version of plug-ins
[01:26] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: does evolution report "Loading Spamassasin as the default junk plugin" when it is first started ?
[01:27] <biouser> ?
[01:27] <ifireball> michael_: thats ok, I use ps -ef though, but thats just an old IRIX habit...
[01:27] <michael_> biouser: sorry, out of my depth.  haven't used wine in years.
[01:27] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, never noticed that
[01:27] <livingdaylight> can someone cd and tellme what their /etc/xdg/menus holds?
[01:27] <abstrakt> I'm getting /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) when trying to boot this Vostro 1500 with Ubuntu Feisty 7.x
[01:27] <michael_> ifireball: ok, i did /etc/init.d/gdm stop and ther seems to be nothing related to gdm or x in ps.  now cleaning the log.
[01:27] <abstrakt> what gives?
[01:27] <livingdaylight> my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu  gnomecc.menu  gnome-screensavers.menu  kde-applications.menu  preferences.menu  settings.menu
[01:28] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me what i am missing and what is surplus?
[01:28] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: ok, close evolution and re-open it (through the terminal again) and check that the message about SpamAssassin is there ...
[01:28] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, ok just restarted Evolution and yes it mentiions starting spamassassin
[01:28] <michael_> ifireball: log's clean, now running /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:28] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: good - 1 sec
[01:29] <ifireball> michael_: it it still doesn't work paste both the log and the xorg.conf files please
[01:29] <michael_> ifireball: didn't work, will do.  thanks so much for the cycles you're putting into this!
[01:29] <_3mend0> re all
[01:30] <EdwardXP> I really wan to figure out how to detect my own devices,
[01:30] <EdwardXP> and update drivers on ubuntu
[01:30] <ifireball> michael_: I just can't help thinking its one tiny thing we're missing here
[01:30] <MasterShrek> EdwardXP: what hardware? most, if not all, should be auto-detected
[01:31] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: ok, I've tracked the issue down to a bug report ... it would appear that the Evolution plug-in isn't able to alter the spamassassin whitelist
[01:31] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/172434
[01:31] <michael_> ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48792/ is error log
[01:31] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: but ultimately, it's an issue with Evolution, which the GNOME developers are working on ...
[01:31] <_3mend0> sorry, doesn anybody knows how to restar sun java ?? I can't run mercury ... return the follow error: " axel@axel-laptop:~$ mercury
[01:31] <_3mend0> Mercury does not run on Blackdown Java.
[01:31] <_3mend0> Please, make sure to have the Sun Java version 1.5 or later installed.
[01:31] <_3mend0> axel@axel-laptop:~$
[01:31] <_3mend0> "
[01:31] <_3mend0> what I can do ?
[01:31] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, ok so not much I can do then but keep editing the whitelist manually
[01:31] <ader10> Does anybody know how to install a current partition of windows on virtual box?
[01:31] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me with applications menu please!?
[01:31] <michael_> ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48793/ is xorg.conf
[01:32] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, can you tell me what you have in /etc/xdg/menus?
[01:32] <michael_> ifireball: i sure would love it if it were one tiny thing.  yessir.
[01:32] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, thanks for your help
[01:32] <Soskel> hello
[01:32] <_3mend0> !mercury sun-java
[01:32] <livingdaylight> my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu  gnomecc.menu  gnome-screensavers.menu  kde-applications.menu  preferences.menu  settings.menu
[01:33] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: pretty much ... it may be possible to convince Evolution to output a list of your address book in the format required for spamassassin ....
[01:33] <ProN00b> can ubuntu feisty (64bit) write to hfs+ ?
[01:33] <backgen> is it me or is facebook a lot slower on gibbon with firefox?
[01:33] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: no worries - hope it helped ..
[01:34] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, thats a good idea. I'll investigate that. it'll save me some typing if nothing else
[01:34] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, can you help me bro?
[01:34] <gribouille> does anyone know anything about NetworkManager ?
[01:34] <alex__> hello... I need some help installing Ubuntu jeos 7.10 on vmware 6
[01:34] <backgen> ok so i know that windows is good for games...macs are good for video editing and graphics design...what is linux famous for?
[01:34] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: I've done what I can ...
[01:34] <ader10> Does anybody know how to install a current partition of windows on virtual box?
[01:34] <winkman> backgen: being free
[01:35] <atoponce> ProN00b: yes, if you don't use journaling
[01:35] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: sorry
[01:35] <livingdaylight> backgen, it is good for surfing the web
[01:35] <atoponce> iirc
[01:35] <backgen> lol
[01:35] <EdwardXP> whats the command to see your open ports again?
[01:35] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, ok, then just continue to ignore me
[01:35] <kelsin> backgen: those are all stereotypes that are rapidly changing
[01:35] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, seriously, you can't tell me what you have in /etc/xdg/menus?
[01:35] <EdwardXP> im tryin gto find out which port to allow in the router
[01:35] <alex__> Linux is famous for being good at anything and everything at the same time
[01:35] <abstrakt> backgen: yeah none of those stereotypes are really true any more
[01:35] <Eyemean> hi does any one know why some fonts dont print properly in ubuntu
[01:35] <ifireball> michael_: almost there: "PCI:*(1:11:0) 3Dfx Interactive, Inc..." so it seems you need to use decimal in xorg.conf rather then hex...
[01:36] <ProN00b> atoponce, how do i turn that off ?
[01:36] <brent1> I need help getting ubuntu to work with my wiriless and ethernet cards
[01:36] <Batma8> is it normal to have a slight vertical tearing when you use your cube?
[01:36] <ifireball> michael_:  so it should be BusID		"PCI:01:11:0"
[01:36] <atoponce> ProN00b: just mount the fs as hfs and not hfs+
[01:36] <abstrakt> backgen: the "stereotype" for linux though is being "good at running servers"
[01:36] <ProN00b> atoponce, -t hfs ?
[01:36] <backgen> is there a kind of manual for ubuntu gutsy gibbon?
[01:36] <abstrakt> backgen: the whole "macs are good for graphics/audio/video" is bullshit though
[01:36] <alex__> Excuse me, again: Linux is famous for being good at everything and nothing at the same time
[01:36] <MasterShrek> backgen: ubuntuguide.org
[01:36] <michael_> ifireball: ok, i'm willing to try it :)
[01:36] <abstrakt> backgen: "windows is good for games" has a little merit though
[01:36] <alex__> ok...
[01:37] <alex__> anyone here has experience with Ubuntu 7.10 JeOS?
[01:37] <cr4> how do I surf in my share folder with nfs ?
[01:37] <kelsin> backgen: there is an official ubuntu book that canical publishes. There is also many websites, and of course since ubuntu is made up of all open source software, the websites and books and manuals of the pieces of the system
[01:37] <atoponce> ProN00b: yes. actually, it looks like 'hfsplus' is supported, so give that a try
[01:37] <michael_> ifireball: note that i had used PCI:01:0b.0, with a dot, not :0 with a colon.  shoudl i in fact use a colon?
[01:37] <livingdaylight> abstrakt, macs are excellent at video and graphics stuff, that's no bs
[01:37] <Eyemean> the lucida handwritng fonts just looks normal in openoffce
[01:37] <brent1> I have a dell inspiron 6000 and installed ubuntu onto it....sadly it refuses to use my wireless card and my ethernet port
[01:37] <brent1> any ideas?
[01:37] <rewtor> are there any "upgrades" to apps in LTS?
[01:37] <ifireball> michael_: I think so
[01:37] <winkman> backgen: the official ubuntu book is very good, it's sitting right next to me... and will get you on your feet in no time!
[01:37] <ProN00b> does the live cd have any kinds of hard restrictions on writing to disks ?
[01:37] <kelsin> abstrakt: that's only cause developers love DirectX, if more games were programmed properly (like wow, warcraftIII, quake, unreal) linux would be more popular
[01:38] <atoponce> ProN00b: nope. it's full fledged
[01:38] <livingdaylight> ifireball, couldn't you check your /etc/xdg/menus?
[01:38] <ProN00b> atoponce, well, if hfsplus is supported, why didn't it work when i tried
[01:38] <ZiRo`> i'm getting frustrated
[01:38] <ZiRo`> i thought linux was meant to wrok
[01:38] <atoponce> ProN00b: what did you try?
[01:38] <backgen> does anyone know how i can get my hands on the official ubuntu book?
[01:38] <ZiRo`> gftp doesnt
[01:38] <cr4> how do I surf in my share folder with nfs ?
[01:38] <livingdaylight> winkman, that book is sooo outdated. i have it too and donated it to my library coz it's just obsolete
[01:38] <ZiRo`> it sucks, transfers "stall" without reason, the only way to recover is to restart the app
[01:38] <winkman> backgen: From a local library, or through the ubuntu store perhaps?
[01:38] <michael_> ifireball: k, i changed it, wiped the log, and am restarting gdm... cross your fingers.   I"ve got the second edition... and it still seems pretty good
[01:39] <ifireball> livingdaylight: hmm... I also got applications.menu...
[01:39] <livingdaylight> winkman, ahhh.. you didn't say that. i got the first edition
[01:39] <atoponce> ProN00b: well, that's you're problem. why are you trying to create a device?
[01:39] <backgen> although i doubt my library will have a book that talks about gibbon...but were there any breakthrough changes that came with it?
[01:39] <livingdaylight> ifireball, yea, that's the one i need!
[01:39] <ProN00b> atoponce, i even tried with -w, and mtab showed "rw"
[01:39] <michael_> ifireball: oh good, got a parse error, UseEdid not valid in "Device".  I'll try in "Screen".
[01:39] <ProN00b> atoponce, trying to create a device ?
[01:40] <ifireball> michael_: just comment it for no
[01:40] <atoponce> ProN00b: mkdir /dev/sda1?
[01:40] <livingdaylight> ifireball, can you paste that for me? so i can add it
[01:40] <michael_> ifireball: ok
[01:40] <dadehoog> ZiRo`: why are you using gedit ? If you run Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client and set up FTP connections as if they were local filesystems ...
[01:40] <ProN00b> atoponce, read again
[01:40] <winkman> backgen: I'm not too sure, i think the second editiion only deals with 6.06
[01:40] <atoponce> heh
[01:40] <atoponce> my bad
[01:40] <ifireball> livingdaylight: try reinstalling the "gnome-menus" package
[01:40] <dadehoog> *gftp
[01:40] <ProN00b> atoponce, any idea what else could be wrong ?
[01:40] <std> !mp3
[01:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:40] <atoponce> ProN00b: you're sure that the hfs+ device is /dev/sda1?
[01:40] <livingdaylight> ifireball, ok, will try that first and see what impact it has on /etc/xdg/menus
[01:40] <ProN00b> yes, files show correctly
[01:41] <ProN00b> just giving me a file system is read only error
[01:41] <std> !rpl
[01:41] <ifireball> livingdaylight: that's the package where the file came from
[01:41] <atoponce> ProN00b: mount -t hfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:41] <atoponce> ProN00b: ^^ work?
[01:41] <std> !rpl
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rpl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <kitche> ProN00b: is it hfs+ or just hfs?
[01:41] <ProN00b> atoponce, yeah, going to try this when i reboot, anything else i could try in case this fails ?
[01:41] <michael_> ifireball: hm, a couple lines from end of log (it failed again btw) is '(WW) TDFX: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:11:0) found'
[01:42] <std> how do I ripl-boot ubuntu
[01:42] <atoponce> kitche: hfs+
[01:42] <michael_> want the whole log pasted?
[01:42] <ProN00b> kitche, its hfs+, but i don't think it matters if i just need a file deleted quickly+
[01:42] <Eyemean> if i have problems with openoffice not showing fonts properly is there another room i can go to?
[01:42] <atoponce> ProN00b: specify the type. hfs for no journaling, hfsplus for journaling: mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:42] <livingdaylight> ifireball, how about the others. Any of them extrenuous?
[01:42] <std> how do i ripl linux
[01:42] <ifireball> michael_: lets try without the busid line
[01:42] <atoponce> ProN00b: /mnt is a great tmp point for mounting devices
[01:42] <livingdaylight> ifireball, my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu  gnomecc.menu  gnome-screensavers.menu  kde-applications.menu  preferences.menu  settings.menu
[01:43] <dadehoog> michael_: "(WW)" means it's a warning, but not fatal to the execution. Look for "(EE)". That means error and failed to execute.
[01:43] <backgen> anybody have a link to some cool ubuntu backgrounds?
[01:43] <livingdaylight> ifireball, all the others are there in your list too or should i eliminate any of them?
[01:43] <michael_> ifireball: erm, i seem to have used ".0" instead of ":0" in the xorg.conf BusID line.  Let's try this again, with :0...
[01:43] <realshiva> hi guys, i want to resend my mails with fetchmail and sendmail, to an 3rd mailserver do someone know how to do this?
[01:43] <std> how do i ripl linux
[01:43] <michael_> dadehoog: yeah, i figured that, but it certainly pointed to a problem as I hadn't seen that before.  thanks.
[01:43] <atoponce> std: what is 'rip1 linux'?
[01:43] <ifireball> livingdaylight: I got all off those
[01:43] <SonicChao> !rip1
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rip1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <dadehoog> realshiva: a third mailserver ? or an mx host ?
[01:43] <SonicChao> !ripl
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ripl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <SonicChao> std: what is ripl Linux?
[01:44] <atoponce> i don't either
[01:44]  * michael_ hands ifireball a six pack of beer
[01:44] <x9kri> its pretty cool here now :)
[01:44] <std> atoponce: Remote Initial Program Load
[01:44] <livingdaylight> ifireball, having installed gnome-menus my /etc/xdg/menus is still missing applications menu... could you paste it so i can manually add it?
[01:44]  * michael_ dances around the channel a bit
[01:44] <realshiva> dadehoog mails are on googlemail.com. serv1.hostA.tdl fetches the mails and should resend it to yahoo.com
[01:45] <atoponce> std: never heard of it. what does it do?
[01:45] <dadehoog> realshiva: OK, BRB
[01:45] <SonicChao> std, do you mean how do you start a program when you log in? Or how you make another user on your network launch a program?
[01:45] <michael_> ifireball: after a flash of garbage and i could swear seeing half of a "gentoo" graphic, it loaded just fine.
[01:45] <std> atoponce: it is like pxe, but I tried pxelinux
[01:45] <michael_> ifireball: thank you SO MUCH for your help.  so, the only thing changed from the default Gutsy install was the BusID and the driver=tdfx?
[01:46] <atoponce> std: so, you're trying to boot and install a machine via pxe?
[01:46] <michael_> ifireball: i can't remember all the steps tried :/
[01:46] <std> atoponec: no
[01:46] <ricanelite> I have steam already installed with Counter Strike on my Windows Partition how do I get it on my Ubuntu linux Partition?
[01:46] <backgen> ok so now i know it's not a question...but does anyone have any links to some cool Ubuntu themed Wallpapers?
[01:46] <Agiofws> how do i see the special graphics effects in ubutu 7.10
[01:46] <calm> How safe is it to enable the "gutsy-propsed" repository?
[01:46] <Agiofws> ?
[01:46] <LjL> calm: not very
[01:46] <Agiofws> is there any menu or something ?
[01:47] <std> atoponce: no ripl is diffrent
[01:47] <Lunar_Lamp> backgen, try looking on www.gnome-look.org - there will be some there :-)
[01:47] <NumBeast> Agiofws: right click on the desktop, select properties
[01:47] <calm> LjL: What exactly goes in there?
[01:47] <Agiofws> whats the key combination for the cube ?
[01:47] <ifireball> michael_: essentially is was the busid and tdfx, since it kept trying to use the wrong card and driver...
[01:47] <NumBeast> Agiofws click the desktop effects tab
[01:47] <atoponce> std: then i can't help you. for pxe, however, you may want to check out ubuntuforums.org or ubuntu-tutorials.com. both have help with pxe
[01:47] <Agiofws> NumBeast,  where is that ?
[01:47] <atoponce> don't know about ripl
[01:47] <kitche> calm: it's fixes and such that need tested before they are moved to the main repo
[01:47] <Agiofws> no properties option
[01:47] <mario> Mi laptop gets stucked and I can't hit any key, not even ctrl alt f2 or f3. Help, please.
[01:47] <calm> kitche: Ah, thanks.
[01:47] <fannagoganna> are you using pxe to boot from the net?
[01:47] <NumBeast> Agiofws, sorry right click desktop, then select change background
[01:48] <michael_> ifireball: got it.  thanks again.
[01:48] <calm> I'm learning new things every day. =)
[01:48] <LjL> calm: packages with bugfixes that, if they don't show any problems during a testing period, eventually end up in gutsy-updates. if they *do* show problems though... sometimes they're serious problems.
[01:48] <drgeb> what is steam ?
[01:48] <NumBeast> Agiofws then select visual effects tab
[01:48] <livingdaylight> ifireball, ?
[01:48] <SonicChao> mario, sounds like a hardware problem.
[01:48] <twobits> excuse me, is there a webpage where I can see the hash codes for the various ubuntu installs
[01:48] <ifireball> michael_: cheers, have a nice ubuntuing...
[01:48] <Agiofws> NumBeast,  that only has 3 options
[01:48] <fannagoganna> twobits, you mean md5 sums?
[01:48] <NumBeast> Agoifws then you can choose what level of effects you want
[01:48] <ifireball> livingdaylight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48795/ good luck!
[01:48] <std> can anyone else help me with ripling linux
[01:48] <twobits> yeah
[01:48] <Agiofws> i need  to know the key combinations or what it does
[01:48] <mario> sonicchao: I don't think so
[01:49] <backgen> lunar lamp: thanks!
[01:49] <NumBeast> Agiofws if you want more options, install the compiz settings package
[01:49] <SonicChao> mario, Did it happen right after an Ubuntu install?
[01:49] <shisohan> xyb3r: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:49] <mario> sonicchao:how do I find the problem
[01:49] <x9kri> has code is not md5
[01:49] <NumBeast> Agiofws: the cube is Ctrl+Alt+Left mouse button
[01:49] <std>
[01:49] <backgen> hey does anyone know if i can download a program that rotates my wallpapers kind of like the setting you can put on Macs?
[01:49] <std>
[01:49] <std> \
[01:49] <SonicChao> mario, wait, it freezes /while/ you're using the computer or /as soon as you turn it on?
[01:49] <twobits> well whatever code is applicable
[01:49] <SonicChao> !repeat | std
[01:49] <ubotu> std: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:49] <NumBeast> std: stop spamming
[01:49] <twobits> i have hashtabs open right now
[01:49] <mario> sinchchao: yes, before I had vista and never happened something like that
[01:49] <livingdaylight> ifireball, when you said 'good luck' i suddenly got scared :)
[01:50] <mario> sonicchao: when I am using it
[01:50] <shisohan> gsr: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:50] <Agiofws> NumBeast,  youhave to have compiz ? to gethe cube effect ?
[01:50] <atoponce> !tab
[01:50] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:50] <michael_> backgen: there's a cmd line program to set your wallpaper, so it's very easy to write a script to do this [if you can't find one on the internet], if you're into that kind of thing.
[01:50] <mario> sonichchao: specially when Im gettin some files from my home network
[01:50] <ifireball> livingdaylight: well, its a matter of trust then... you are taking a file from a stranger :P
[01:50] <x9kri> i have the answer whait
[01:50] <shisohan> master_o1_master: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:50] <shisohan> bobbob1016: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:50] <michael_> backgen: sort of a while [ 1 ]: sleep a random amount, then pick a file from this directory and set it as wallpaper
[01:50] <shisohan> Blank_: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:50] <dadehoog> realshiva: ok ... sorry, can you explain what you're trying to do ..? pull mail from Gmail to your local machine, and forward it automatically to your Yahoo account ?
[01:50] <mario> sonicchao: it is pretty weird and unpredictable
[01:50] <NumBeast> Agiofws, yes, you have to have compiz. But it comes default with 7.10, so you probably already have it
[01:50] <backgen> micheal: eeek, i have no clue how to script write :(
[01:50] <shisohan> anubis1337: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:51] <anubis1337> hello
[01:51] <NumBeast> Agiofws: but you need to install compiz-settings to get the control panel
[01:51] <SonicChao> mario, hmm...how long has this been happening?
[01:51] <std> can anyone help me with ripling linux?
[01:51] <SonicChao> Did you update your linux-image or another component before?
[01:51] <michael_> backgen: ok, then: i don't know of a program but i'd imagine a few minutes google searching for things like [ubuntu rotate wallpaper] will do it
[01:51] <twobits> another thing i'm curious about, is there any good, free backup software out there. For windows? (I want to back up before I install ubuntu). I'm wondering what other people have used to back up things like drivers etc.
[01:51] <backgen> micheal: hmm alright i could give it a try....i guess it couldn't really screw up my computer if i mess up could it?
[01:51] <shisohan> jmdwyer: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:51] <backgen> micheal: thanks
[01:51] <michael_> backgen: nope, it could not.
[01:51] <shisohan> reZo: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:51] <livingdaylight> ifireball, i'm just not sure how to cp that into /etc/xdg/menus now? :s can you help me
[01:51] <mario> sonicchao, no, my computer is 3 months old and happens only in ubuntu
[01:52] <michael_> backgen: no problem, let me know if you find one, i'll use it too :)
[01:52] <SonicChao> Why is shisohan welcoming everyone? Is this really necessary?
[01:52] <x9kri> NumBeast: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qxvTJksyuk
[01:52] <Agiofws> ok NumBeast  whats my  def.  window manager
[01:52] <bobbob1016> I just installed a new drive, I'm creating a partition and one option is "round to cylinders" that just means round the partitions to an even number of cylinders, right?
[01:52] <Agiofws> i just killed it ?
[01:52] <reZo> shisohan: despite the fact i've been here for a few months, thank you hehe
[01:52] <michael_> backgen: hah- first hit on google:
[01:52] <shisohan> ericvw: welcome to #ubuntu
[01:52] <michael_> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/01/random-wallpaper-in-gnome/
[01:52] <SonicChao> mario, so you didn't update ubuntu before it started happening.
[01:52] <reZo> your a bot?
[01:52] <dadehoog> mario and SonicChao: I've had similar problems, but they vanished when I disabled compiz effects ...
[01:52] <Blank__> i'd hate to be another person asking questions, but my friend's also had this problem: the bar at the top of every window is tiny...
[01:52] <anubis1337> im having some problems booting Ubuntu 7.10 so when someone gets a chance let me know and ill describe my problem
[01:52] <NumBeast> Agiofws: t's metacity, why
[01:52] <SonicChao> reZo, it's a bot and I don't get what it's purpose is :|
[01:52] <kitche> reZo: shisohan is a bot it's doesn't look official though
[01:52] <reZo> thought so hehe
[01:52] <SonicChao> mario, and dadehoog; I have to go. >: Good luck!
[01:52] <mario> dadehoog, thanks for the advice
[01:53] <brent1> i just installed ubuntu and it refuses to acknowledge my nic and wireless card.  they are both there though....any advice?
[01:53] <mario> sonicchao, thanks anyway
[01:53] <mario> dadehoog, what happened to you?
[01:53] <slimjimflim> does anyone know how set up ssl for apache on gutsy?
[01:53] <ifireball> livingdaylight: download as text file, then use "sudo" and "cp" to copy it to the right place and don't forget to set the right permissions with "chmod", I really gtg for now
[01:53] <Agiofws> Reading state information... Done
[01:53] <Agiofws> E: Couldn't find package compiz-settings
[01:53] <std> :)
[01:54] <crdlb> !ccsm | Agiofws
[01:54] <anubis1337> has anyone here every experienced problems with ubuntu hanging up once gnome is started?
[01:54] <dadehoog> mario: no worries, it's not an awesome solution ... but ... System-> Preferences -> Appearance, click on the "Visual Effects" tab, and select "None".
[01:54] <michael_> anubis1337: yep
[01:54] <anubis1337> it just leaves a full-screen display of fading colors
[01:54] <anubis1337> i would really like to know what to do
[01:54] <x9kri> Agiofws: look at my mive  http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qxvTJksyuk
[01:54] <michael_> anubis1337: although mine was a blank screen
[01:54] <Soskel> Can I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package?
[01:54] <livingdaylight> ifireball, can i not first create a text file applications.menu and then open it with gedit and past it in?
[01:54] <Tm_T> shisohan: ping
[01:54] <bobbob1016> brent1, The nic should be auto-detected, but what is your wireless card, try googling "(wifi card name) ubuntu", such as "bcm4300 ubuntu"
[01:54] <michael_> anubis1337: can you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a login prompt?
[01:55] <std> :-[
[01:55] <anubis1337> no
[01:55] <anubis1337> tried
[01:55] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how to create a text file?
[01:55] <dadehoog> mario: I had random hard locks where I couldn't do anything, and they appeared to be video related - because they got a whole lot worse when I started using dual screens
[01:55] <std> bye
[01:55] <Soskel> livingdaylight: gedit
[01:55] <michael_> anubis1337: if you boot in recovery mode, can you get to a prompt?
[01:55] <stacey> how do i get a atheros card working on gutsy? t worked on fietsy
[01:55] <anubis1337> it just stops accessing the live cd altogether
[01:55] <livingdaylight> Soskel, say more?
[01:55] <ubotu> Agiofws: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:55] <pike_> brent1: lspci -v will tell you the chipset of ether nic and wireless card id then suggest searching ubuntuforums.org for someone who had similar problem
[01:55] <michael_> anubis1337: ah, so you don't actually have it installed yet?
[01:55] <NemesisD> anyone know of a way in linux to tell if I have a vector PDF file or just a standard one?
[01:55] <anubis1337> no
[01:55] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, just a quick update on my spamassassin trouble. apparently you HAVE to LEAVE junk mail in the folder. If you empty it you lose all the learning. so I'll try that and see if it makes any difference
[01:55] <anubis1337> i want to get it working w/ the live cd before i go ahead and install
[01:55] <Soskel> livingdaylight: open terminal and type in 'gedit' without qutoes
[01:55] <michael_> anubis1337: luckily i *just* went thru this over the last 48 hours.  i'll be happy to give you some pointers.
[01:55] <anubis1337> i dont want a useless installation
[01:55] <livingdaylight> Soskel, ok
[01:56] <anubis1337> ok thanks id appreciate it
[01:56]  * Tm_T slaps amidaniel|away
[01:56] <Soskel> Can I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package?
[01:56] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: ah right ... that's odd ... does that mean that spamassassin runs through that Junk Mail directory _every time_ it runs ?
[01:56] <pike_> stacey: normally just works maybe sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[01:56] <NumBeast> Agiofws: sorry, that's not the real name, but in synaptic to name/description search for compiz settings
[01:56] <calm> How do I downgrade packages? "Force Version" in synaptic doesn't always seem to work.
[01:56] <backgen> micheal: ok so i think i've found a script to change my backgrounds...is the command prompt i enter it into just Terminal?
[01:56] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, thats my guess
[01:56] <michael_> anubis1337: well, you won't even be able to install if you can't get to the GUI; so what you'll have to do is get the Alternate Install CD, and use the text-only installer.  once that's done, you'll be able to log in and fix your xorg.conf file (which controls your graphics).
[01:56] <livingdaylight> Soskel, sweet...and when i hit save it will ask me where i want it saved?
[01:56] <Soskel> livingdaylight: yes
[01:56] <mario> dadehoog, how did you disable compiz, because that's what you did, right?
[01:56] <stacey> livingday go to cosole and use cat > filename.txt or nano or use gedit kate
[01:57] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: that would likely be a bit of a performance hit ... but it's worth a try
[01:57] <michael_> backgen: what's the name of the script?
[01:57] <michael_> backgen (wondering if it's a python script, bash script, or executable, or what)
[01:57] <backgen> Gnome background changer
[01:57] <anubis1337> just to make sure, does this have anything to do with what architecture ISO im using?
[01:57] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, I was manually clearing the junk folder because it was a pain to check for false junk when it had a bunch of emails. anyway its worth a try
[01:57] <Soskel> Can I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package?
[01:57] <anubis1337> cause i treid both the 64 bit and 32 bit one
[01:57] <dadehoog> mario: As I said earlier  dadehoog: mario: no worries, it's not an awesome solution ... but ... System-> Preferences -> Appearance, click on the "Visual Effects" tab, and select "None".
[01:57] <ericvw> !group
[01:57] <anubis1337> both produce exact same results
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about group - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <Konam> hey, i can't set a network between the pcs in my network
[01:58] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: yeah, let me know how it goes eh ?
[01:58] <mario> dadehoog, i already have none there, but thanks
[01:58] <Konam> neither using samba or nfs
[01:58] <Konam> with no aparent reason
[01:58] <drew_chicago> dadehoog, will do. thanks again
[01:58] <michael_> anubis1337: no, it doesn't.  when you download the image to burn form ubuntu.org, check the "I need the alternate install version" checkbox.
[01:58] <Agiofws> do i have to run compiz ?
[01:58] <michael_> anubis1337: you'll likely use the 32-bit i386 version.
[01:58] <Agiofws> thats what i did and it killed metacity
[01:58] <Agiofws> whats the compiz package settings name ?
[01:58] <dadehoog> drew_chicago: no worries, good luck
[01:58] <nickrud> Agiofws, no you do not
[01:58] <anubis1337> ok thats what i thought as well
[01:58] <mario> HELP
[01:58] <Agiofws> compizconfig-settings-manager - Compiz configuration settings manager
[01:58] <Agiofws> ?
[01:58] <crdlb> Agiofws: yes
[01:58] <anubis1337> ok ill try the alternate install then
[01:58] <anubis1337> thank you
[01:58] <dadehoog> mario: and you're still getting hard lock-ups ?
[01:58] <michael_> backgen: ok, normally i would set this up manually to make it run at every startup,
[01:58] <hdevalence> i need to burn a 167 MB netinst cd but i only have dvds
[01:58] <Agiofws> ?
[01:58] <michael_> anubis1337: no problem, and good luck
[01:58] <NumBeast> Agiofws: compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:59] <hdevalence> is that a waste?
[01:59] <Agiofws> ok NumBeast  no what ?
[01:59] <mario> dadehoog, sometimes
[01:59] <backgen> micheal: ok so how do i do that?
[01:59] <NumBeast> AgiofwsL install it
[01:59] <mario> dadehoog, as i said is unpredictable
[01:59] <nickrud> Agiofws, if you don't want compiz, just system->prefs->appearance visual effects tab, and select none
[01:59] <Agiofws> i installed it
[01:59] <michael_> backgen: but the blog i mentioned to you talks about using Gnome's session management instead.
[01:59] <dadehoog> mario: have you installed any restricted-drivers ? eg. nvidia, ati, etc ?
[01:59] <NumBeast> Agiofws: so exactly what do you want?
[01:59] <michael_> backgen: as it sounds like you're more comfortable with the GUI, i'd look into using that to control the file instead.
[01:59] <michael_> backgen: lemme go look into it - you do so as well and see if you find out how to use "Gnome Session Management" to make that script run when you start gnome.
[02:00] <mario> dadehoog, yes, my wireless
[02:00] <nickrud> michael_, system->prefs->session , startup tab
[02:00] <michael_> nickrud: thanks :)
[02:00] <mario> dadehoog, but that's not the graphic stuff
[02:00] <michael_> backgen: you catch that?
[02:00] <dadehoog> mario: yeah, what is your wireless card/nic ? and what did you have to install ?
[02:01] <backgen> micheal: eek not really, hahah i know this sounds pathetic but i don't even know where my Gnome is!
[02:01] <michael_> backgen: no problem.
[02:01] <mario> dadehoog, no i did not install that, is an intel prowireless 3945
[02:01] <michael_> backgen: are you in a graphical environment that looks kinda like windows?  with a red power button icon at the top right?
[02:01] <backgen> micheal: yep
[02:02] <Agiofws> do i have to restart X NumBeast  how do i set some effects ?
[02:02] <michael_> backgen: great.  THAT environment is "Gnome".  it's the name of the graphical window manager that you're running.
[02:02] <backgen> micheal: ah....ok i see
[02:02] <michael_> backgen: it starts up when you turn on the computer.  So: click on the "System" menu at the top left, then Preferences, then Sessions
[02:02] <NumBeast> Agiofws: in the visual effects tab, have you tried selecting one?
[02:02] <michael_> go to the Startup tab, click "Add" to add a new program to run on startup of Gnome, and browse to find the file you downloaded.
[02:02] <backgen> micheal: ok got it
[02:03] <unitheory> gnome is the desktop environment, not window manager
[02:03] <michael_> backgen: and apparently, this will start it up next time you log in.
[02:03] <michael_> unitheory: i've always been a little hazy on the distinction; is X the window manager, then?  and if so, what's an alternative?
[02:03] <livingdaylight> ifireball, that worked!
[02:03] <unitheory> michael_, probably compiz or metacity is the window manager depending on whether effects are enabled
[02:03] <backgen> micheal: ok so do i add it as a startup program?
[02:04] <michael_> backgen: yep.
[02:04] <kitche> michael_: X is the server that the graphical programs run on
[02:04] <michael_> unitheory: if i've just installed Gutsy, would metacity be the manager?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> unitheory: gnome and kde are generally called window managers
[02:04] <unitheory> michael_, yes, if you dont have effects enabled
[02:04] <michael_> kitche: ok, so if metacity is the Window Manager, and Gnome is the Desktop, what is X called?
[02:04] <kitche> michael_: X
[02:04] <nickrud> michael_, the window manager draws the borders and title bar, provides the mechanism that allows you to move them with the mouse
[02:04] <michael_> kitche: lol, right
[02:05] <kitche> michael_: it's just the graphical server you can say
[02:05] <michael_> nickrud: thanks for the clarification.  While the desktop environment provides the menus, panels, desktop, trash, etc?
[02:05] <backgen> alrighty...so i just copy paste the entire script into the command line?
[02:05] <nickrud> michael_, exactly
[02:05] <michael_> backgen: no, not quite
[02:05] <unitheory> Jack_Sparrow, so are desktop environment and window manager the same?
[02:06] <unitheory> i didnt think so
[02:06] <backgen> micheal: haha thank god, that seemed a bit insane
[02:06] <kitche> michael_: well a window manager can do panels and menus some can at least
[02:06] <michael_> backgen: have you downloaded the Gnome Background Changer script (or whatever it's called) as a file to your Desktop?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> You are splitting hairs..
[02:06] <michael_> kitche/Jack_Sparrow: good enough description for me.
[02:07] <backgen> micheal: yup
[02:07] <nickrud> is it dead, or lag?
[02:08] <stacey> !wifi
[02:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:08] <mario> i don't want to have the ubuntu help every time i start ubuntu
[02:08] <mario> HELP, please
[02:08] <michael_> backgen: ok. the Gnome Background Changer webpage says to now put that program somewhere permanent.  I'd suggest putting it in /usr/local/bin, which is a folder.  if you have a command line available,
[02:08] <arcnewuss> any good open source gui to recommend for postgresql
[02:08] <stacey> pike u dont have internet, is there a way to do that from windows?
[02:08] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, it is important to separate out the window manager, emerald vs metacity for exampel
[02:09] <arcnewuss> i found pdaccess to be decent for my needs but cant find any doc
[02:09] <michael_> backgen: which you can get via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal,
[02:09] <michael_> backgen: you can type:
[02:09] <yaleman> t
[02:09] <kitche> nickrud: emerald is not a window manager anyways it's just a window decorator
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: agreed...   but in general people misuse the term... wm for Desktop
[02:09] <michael_> sudo mv "~/Desktop/whateverTheFileWasNamed" /usr/local/bin
[02:10] <nickrud> kitche, then compiz is providing the window manager function as well as the compositing?
[02:10] <yaman> hello every one
[02:10] <yaman> please i need help i keep gettin an error message saying that there is No space left on device when trying to use the make command, im using live cd on 7.04
[02:10] <michael_> this means "move the file into the /usr/local/bin directory, and since that directory is owned by the Administrator, i used "sudo" to gain Administrator priveleges for a minute.
[02:10] <kitche> nickrud: yeah
[02:10] <mario> hey guys, I know you can help me, how can I disable the ubuntu helo everytime i start the desktop?
[02:10] <yaman> and i cant make the install of ubuntu becausei need to update my graphics drivers so that im able to press the next buttons in the install
[02:10] <nickrud> kitche, ah, my first new thing for the night, thanks
[02:10] <MasterShrek> yaman: you might have better luck using the alternate installer cd
[02:10] <backgen> micheal: ok let me give that a try
[02:11] <MasterShrek> !alternate | yaman
[02:11] <ubotu> yaman: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[02:11] <unitheory> mario, you mean when you start firefox?
[02:11] <mario> unitheory, no, I mean when i log into ubuntu
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: You want it to not ask for user name and pass when you boot up?
[02:11] <MasterShrek> yaman: also, if you hold alt and click and move your mouse, it should move the window around, so u should be able to get at the next buttons
[02:11] <Billy> ahh!!!
[02:12] <yaman> lol
[02:12] <mario> jack_sparrow, no, i already have that, thanks, I mean when i get to see the desktop the help just pops up
[02:12] <drgeb> I have a strange blinking square on top left hand corner of my desktop how can I determine what program this is ??
[02:12] <yaman> MasterShrek: thank
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: That doesnt happen for most of us so trying to figure out what is happeneing there
[02:13] <michael_> drgeb: a messy way is to do a ps output of all running programs then run 'xkill', click on the icon to kill it, then run ps again, and do a diff on the two outputs to see what has changed.
[02:13] <michael_> ps gax > fileOne
[02:13] <backgen> micheal: hmm it says it's not recognizing the command
[02:13] <michael_> xkill [click on square]
[02:13] <michael_> ps gax > fileTwo
[02:13] <michael_> diff fileOne fileTwo
[02:13] <ProN00b> atoponce, hfs mounting doesn't work
[02:13] <mario> jack_sparrow, I know is not big deal but i dont know how to stop it
[02:13] <michael_> backgen: which command?
[02:13] <michael_> backgen: sudo? mv?
[02:13] <frosty> hola
[02:13] <el_tipico_chilen> hola
[02:14] <el_tipico_chilen> alguien habla español
[02:14] <pike_> drg!es | el_tipico_chilen welcome :)
[02:14] <arcnewuss> are there any gui recommend to run postgresql?
[02:14] <unbeatabl> is SAS just a better version of SATA Harddrives?
[02:14] <pike_> lol
[02:14] <mario> YO
[02:14] <michael_> el_tipico_chilen: hay otros channels en que se hablan espanol, este es solo para ingles
[02:14] <tipical_chilean> ahora si
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: You get the ubuntu help center every time you login?
[02:14] <tipical_chilean> quien habla español
[02:14] <tipical_chilean> michael_
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !es | tipical_chilean
[02:14] <ubotu> tipical_chilean: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:14] <tipical_chilean> suck my dick
[02:14] <atoponce> ProN00b: have you tried hfsplus?
[02:14] <mario> jack_sparrow, yes, man that is the name
[02:14] <backgen> micheal: i think its mv, because it asked me for my password for sudo
[02:15] <mario> jack_sparrow, how can i stop it?
[02:15] <nickrud> !language | tipical_chilean
[02:15] <ubotu> tipical_chilean: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:15] <michael_> backgen: jfj!
[02:15] <michael_> backgen: i mean, "huh!"... sorry
[02:15] <backgen> hahaha
[02:15] <backgen> well i type the command in
[02:15] <voltHeir> hi: i've been searching the forum for a half hour to no avail.  how do I install the PEAR package?  i already have installed apache2/php5 with apt...  thanks in advance!
[02:16] <backgen> micheal: then terminal says [sudo] password for (username)
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: how long has it done this.. what was the last thing you installed when it started etc.
[02:16] <michael_> ok, um so you typed sudo mv "~/Desktop/gbchange" /usr/local/bin, and it prompted you for your password, and then it gave you an error?
[02:16] <nickrud> voltHeir, I believe you're looking for php-pear
[02:17] <voltHeir> =/
[02:17] <voltHeir> ok lemme try
[02:17] <voltHeir> nickrud: thanks!
[02:17] <nickrud> voltHeir, take a look at it's description, many of the pear modules are already packaged
[02:17] <mario> jack_sparrow, i think since i installed it
[02:17] <voltHeir> nickrud: will do.  is there a synaptic package listing somewhere?
[02:17] <nickrud> voltHeir, yes, you'll find it under php-pear :)
[02:17] <backgen> micheal: yup except thats not the name of the file though...wait where did you get your script from?
[02:18] <mario> jack_sparrow, i think since i installed......i dont remember
[02:18] <mario> jack_sparrow, how can i tell
[02:18] <michael_> backgen: i assuemd you were using the one off the blogt that i sent you to.
[02:18] <michael_> can you copy and paste what you typed and what error it gave you?
[02:18] <voltHeir> nickrud: i mean more generally - like the name of packages that i can use apt to get, so i don't have to come to IRC to find the answer 'php-pear' :D
[02:18] <backgen> oooh
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: If that is true you have a bad install as that is NOT what the rest of us have..  What about installing from repos other than Ubuntu official ones?
[02:18] <backgen> micheal: i think i may have gone to a different one by mistake, can you send me the blog again please?
[02:18] <countx> help! me
[02:19] <Muse> you help me too
[02:19] <countx> ok ok
[02:19] <countx> go go go
[02:19] <michael_> backgen: sure.  and, my mistake - i just tried to run the command i todl you to run and i got an error as well.  stupid me.
[02:19] <nickrud> voltHeir, lol, do aptitude search php5-* in a terminal, I think that will list them all
[02:19] <dadehoog> voltHeir: it depends - on which repositories you have enabled - but for your setup, it should be listed in Synaptic (there's a search function, etc.)
[02:19] <mario> jack_sparrow, that didn't happen
[02:19] <michael_> anyway, here's the link:
[02:19] <michael_> http://www.tu-harburg.de/~vkv/gbgchange/
[02:19] <countx> Muse: u first
[02:19] <mario> jack_sparrow, I install everything from the synaptic
[02:19] <michael_> but if you found another one, we can work with that one instead!
[02:19] <countx> Muse: i am guy
[02:20] <Muse> ok, help me wit something
[02:20] <voltHeir> nickrud, dadehoog - i am an ubuntu noob.  thanks to both of you!
[02:20] <backgen> micheal: well thats strange...thats the same blog post i was using actually
[02:20] <voltHeir>  also debian noob :)
[02:20] <countx> Muse: what?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: Good choice... but needed to ask..  as long as you dint alter or add special repos we can rule that out
[02:20] <mario> jack_sparrow, I know is not complicated to fix but how to find out? i'm rather a newbie here
[02:20] <askand> When I scan a port with ubuntu network tools it tells me the port is open, but when I check it with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ it seems to be closed..why?
[02:20] <countx> Muse: u go first then u help me
[02:20] <Muse> countx: I'm having problems with my external hard-disk... it doesn't show in windows or linux or any other system.. everytime it says "Cannot recognize this device"
[02:20] <backgen> wait how did you download the script then?
[02:20] <michael_> sorry backgen, disappeared for a second
[02:21] <countx> Muse: u try format?
[02:21] <michael_> backgen: what were you asking?
[02:21] <Muse> countx: computer doesn't see it. how can i format it
[02:21] <eugo> hey has anyone used squirrelmail?!
[02:21] <Muse> countx: also there is good data in it, like 160gig of data, i dont want to loose those.
[02:21] <countx> Muse: in windoze there is 'computer management'
[02:21] <backgen> micheal: how did you download the script then? because when i press on the download link at the bottom of the blog it brings me to another webpage with the entire script there
[02:21] <nickrud> voltHeir, you really gotta get up on the apt commands, then, a fair start is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[02:21] <voltHeir> thank you sir :)
[02:22] <Muse> countx: no usb device there.. i tried from different pcs. external hdd doesnt seem to work...
[02:22] <livingdaylight> guys how does one remove a directory?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: I dont have an answer...  have not seen that before and it is not part of the standard install..  You are not running inside any vm or anything right, normal hard drive install etc?
[02:22] <countx> Muse: it is new?
[02:22] <michael_> backgen: if you're using Firefox, right click the link and choose "Save File As".
[02:22] <livingdaylight> i have a uselss directory Thunar and Xfce4 in my /etc/xdg  but sudo rm wont' do it
[02:22] <stunatra> livingdaylight, "rmdir"
[02:22] <voltHeir> livingdaylight rmdir
[02:22] <livingdaylight> thx guys
[02:22] <michael_> backgen: save it to your desktop as "gbchange".
[02:22] <backgen> micheal: ok got it
[02:22] <stunatra> livingdaylight, make sure the directory is empty.
[02:23] <countx> Muse: maybe u are under warranty?
[02:23] <backgen> micheal: i'll try the command prompt again then
[02:23] <foolyvespa> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[02:23] <michael_> backgen: please spell my name "michael", as it will then be highlighted in my screen for easier finding your comments :)
[02:23] <voltHeir> livingdaylight 'rm <your dir> -r' will work too.
[02:23] <dadehoog> is anyone aware of a good vocab testing tool and verb form testing tool ? ideally for french ... that _isn't_ reliant on KDE/Qt ?
[02:23] <mario> jack_sparrow, the only thing is i have been cpying files from another pc
[02:23] <Muse> anyway, countx . you shoot
[02:23] <backgen> michael: oh woops sorry
[02:23] <livingdaylight> stunatra, exactly, its just told me the directory is not empty... is ther not a way of just deleting it anyways?
[02:23] <michael_> backgen: the command i gave you earlier was crap, unfortunately - you'll need to do this instead:
[02:23] <countx> Muse: i broke my internet
[02:24] <stunatra> livingdaylight, I'm not sure. You could try deleting each file one by one.
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: What files...  and have you been using root access to do it?
[02:24] <Muse> ok
[02:24] <countx> Muse: laptop with gutsy cant connect to wired or wireless
[02:24] <Muse> why
[02:24] <countx> Muse: was working just a second ago, i tried restart...nothing
[02:24] <michael_> backgen: do this instead, at the terminal:
[02:24] <mario> jack_sparrow, no, i dont think so, just mp3s and documents and pictures
[02:24] <michael_> backgen: cd Desktop
[02:24] <realshiva> dadehoog sry, yes i want to grap the mails from gmail and put it into yahoo account
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: You also didnt answer my other question.. this is a regular hard drive install.. not vm, not wubi none of that..
[02:24] <michael_> backgen: sudo mv gbchange /usr/local/bin
[02:25] <michael_> backgen: that should work without errors :)
[02:25] <livingdaylight> stunatra, voltHeir 's method 'rm <your dir> -r takes care of it all at once
[02:25] <livingdaylight> voltHeir, thx
[02:25] <Muse> countx: you need to pick the wireless router brand in the linux
[02:25] <dadehoog> realshiva: can't you add a forward in your gmail web interface to forward to your yahoo email ?
[02:25] <voltHeir> np
[02:25] <mario> jack_sparrow, sorry, no no VMs
[02:25] <stunatra> Good to know, voltHeir, thanks.
[02:25] <backgen> michael: ok let me try that right now
[02:25] <Muse> countx: in linux you dont have to restart to fix stuff, its not windows man. lol
[02:26] <Muse> in linux you need to configure & fix, instead of restarting..
[02:26] <countx> Muse: when i click manual config, it opens a window with nothing in it but a white box
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> mario: I dont have an answer...
[02:27] <livingdaylight> stunatra, imagine having a directory with hundreds of stuff in it... having to delte one by one just so one can delete the directoy would be too much work
[02:27] <countx> Muse: ok after like 2 mins it just came up
[02:27] <backgen> michael: ah ha...new problem now it says No such file or Directory
[02:27] <Muse> countx: there is somewhere I remember to pick the "Type" of wireless connection you got... and back then i picked one of them that worked for me, the other options didn't make my internet up....  I was sure there was a command to delete all of the files and the dir, but wasn't sure what it was.
[02:27] <michael_> backgen: awesome :)  firefox may have saved it as "gbchange.htm" instead of "gbchange" just to be ornery.
[02:27] <livingdaylight> voltHeir, why does the -r after dir name remove dire + all its contents
[02:28] <michael_> if you click on "Places -> Desktop", do you see any files in the window that comes up?
[02:28] <countx> Muse: i would use wired preferbly if it worked :(
[02:28] <stunatra> livingdaylight, thanks to voltHeir we both know :)
[02:28] <realshiva> dadehoog thats not that what i want to do :-)
[02:28] <michael_> [the Gnome "Places" menu at the top of the screen]
[02:28] <backgen> michael: yeh but i tried the .htm too and it told me the same thing
[02:28] <livingdaylight> stunatra, :D its great learning stuff eh!?
[02:28] <realshiva> i took gmail and yahoo to explain you what i want to do
[02:28] <stunatra> livingdaylight, it sure is!
[02:29] <michael_> backgen: copy and paste this and see if it works:
[02:29] <michael_> cd
[02:29] <michael_> cd Desktop
[02:29] <michael_> mv *gbchange* gbchange
[02:29] <voltHeir> stunatra, livingdaylight: the -r means 'recursive' - it will delete the directory's subcontents (including subdirectories and their contents), then the directory itself
[02:29] <michael_> sudo mv gbchange /usr/local/bin
[02:29] <michael_> [that's all]
[02:29] <mariocesar_bo> Hello all, I had some issues sharing a printer from fesity to gutsy. On gutsy I can see the printer on the feisty machine when I try to create a new printer, but when I check the conection I get a No Conection error.
[02:29] <bobbob1016> I have a new drive, and I formatted it via GParted.  I found the UUID, and I put it in my fstab, and no luck.  I added /dev/sdc1 which is it's location, is there anything I'm missing that way?
[02:29] <stunatra> ahh voltHeir, thanks again. I will put that in my notes.
[02:29] <voltHeir> livingdaylight, stunatra: you can add a '-f' to not get the delete prompt for each subcontent, but this is very *VERY* dangerous
[02:30] <wacd-andy> does anyone know when is the Flash plugin going to be alright again...?
[02:30] <michael_> backgen: this is renaming the file to "gbchange" first, assuming it's got the word "gbchange" somewhere in the name currently.
[02:30] <livingdaylight> voltHeir, recursive, right, good word, that will help me remember the command for future reference, thx bro
[02:30] <voltHeir> np
[02:30] <countx> Muse: having no internet on my laptop scares me
[02:30] <Muse> countx: haha.
[02:31] <countx> Muse: i upload new songs and internet break :((((
[02:31] <ere4si> bobbob1016, have you given it a mount point?
[02:31] <Muse> countx: live with it, or see what might cause the problem really... you can't go and say "My internet isn't working" You need to be more specific of what might cause this problem... sorry i couldn't be much of a help, but hopefuly an expert here will help you.
[02:31] <Muse> countx: as I said before, i'm just a newbie like you! :p
[02:31] <countx> Muse: waa D:
[02:31] <backgen> micheal argh!!! it's still not working
[02:31] <michael_> backgen: ok, we'll figure it out.  what's the error?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !doesntwork
[02:32] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:32] <backgen> michael: ok so i type in cd and cd Desktop and thats fine
[02:32] <backgen> michael: but then i type in mv *gbgchange*gbgchange (and i've tried every version of the file name...with .htm and not)
[02:32] <slugone> okay im installing GWF ..... the widget factory....i unpacked the tarball........im root right now .....and i type ./comfigure and it goes thro some stuff then says c compiler works, NO..... error creating executables
[02:32] <bobbob1016> ere4si, I gave it /media/HD3.  It doesn't show on the desktop though.
[02:33] <askand> When I scan a port with ubuntu network tools it tells me the port is open, but when I check it with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ it seems to be closed..why?
[02:33] <voltHeir> livingdaylight, stunatra: "man rm" in the terminal ;)  this helps too =)
[02:33] <michael_> backgen: was there a space between the second star and the secfond "gbchange", like "*gbgchange* gbgchange"?
[02:33] <stunatra> thanks, voltHeir :)
[02:33] <backgen> michael: and then it says "missing destination file operand after 'gbgchange*gbgchange'
[02:33] <ere4si> bobbob1016, try in terminal    sudo mount -v /media/HD3
[02:33] <livingdaylight> voltHeir, LOL i was just doing a 'man' on eclair but didn't have anything... gonna try man rm now
[02:34] <dadehoog> askand: some ports will be open on the <IP_ADDRESS>, and <IP_ADDRESS> interfaces - but closed on others ...
[02:34] <voltHeir> :) man rocks da house
[02:34] <backgen> michael: no...uh oh was there supposed to be?
[02:34] <dadehoog> askand: and routers/firewalls in the interim may well be blocking the external access
[02:34] <michael_> backgen: yep.  what "mv *x* y" does is "move anything containing 'x' to be called 'y' instead."
[02:34] <michael_> however, backgen, i have some more bad news...
[02:34] <ere4si> bobbob1016,  that should have been   sudo mount -v /dev/sdc1 /media/HD3
[02:34] <michael_> backgen: i am doing this concurrently with you to make sure things make sense, and i got a few steps ahead and the script is giving an error.  it looks like the author didn't test it very well.
[02:35] <askand> dadehoog: hrm ok... the strange thing is I opened two ports in my router..one for torrents and one for direct connect...the torrentport works but the direct connect port wont :/
[02:35] <Ar3s> Hey
[02:35] <backgen> oh no!!!
[02:35] <bobbob1016> ere4si, It mounts, I just don't see it on the desktop
[02:35] <Ar3s> Is any one alive ?
[02:35] <Muse> countx: aww
[02:35] <michael_> backgen: it just might work for you, but to save you time, how about instead:
[02:35] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, bro... i got my applications menu back... figured it out bro!
[02:35] <backgen> michael: haha and i just typed in the full command with sudo and i think it worked too...
[02:35] <dadehoog> askand: when you say "opened in your router" you mean enabled port forwarding to your Ubuntu machine ?
[02:36] <michael_> backgen: ok, well why not try the last couple steps and see if you get an error :)
[02:36] <dadehoog> livingdaylight: well done, what was the problem, and the solution ?
[02:36] <askand> dadehoog:  yes
[02:36] <backgen> michael: alrighty then so what are those?
[02:36] <michael_> backgen: type this: sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/gbchange [or whatever youc alled it!]
[02:36] <jimmygoon> Is libmtp integrated into gnome/nautilus?
[02:36] <dadehoog> askand: what's "direct connect" exactly ?
[02:36] <michael_> this means "as Administrator, I want to say that gbchange is a program that can be run, not just a filel that can be read."
[02:36] <jimmygoon> becasue somehow ubuntu is talking to my libmtp-only device
[02:36] <countx> Muse: no suggestion?
[02:37] <livingdaylight> dadehoog, /etc/xdg/menus was missing a applications.menu script Got someone to give /paste me their copy which i added and presto, bob's your uncle
[02:37] <backgen> michael: ok just did, and it seems fine, no error messages
[02:37] <countx> Muse: it is still now working
[02:37] <Ar3s> If anyone can help me, I am a student and I got to interview any one working in computers for a damn project a teacher gave me
[02:37] <michael_> backgen: great.  last thing to type is just: gbchange
[02:37] <askand> dadehoog: hmm in this case it is the linux dc++ client