[13:56] <bdrung> !dmb-ping
[13:56] <bdrung> meeting in four minutes
[14:01] <Laney> ok
[14:01] <Laney> cody-somerville: here?
[14:01] <Laney> #startmeeting
[14:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 27 14:01:21 2012 UTC.  The chair is Laney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:01] <Laney> who's here?
[14:01] <micahg> o/
[14:01] <tumbleweed> o/
[14:01]  * bdrung is here, but ill.
[14:01] <barry> o/
[14:02] <Laney> is the agenda current?
[14:02]  * Laney is looking at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-13-19.09.html and seeing things not on there
[14:03] <micahg> Laney: it is now :)
[14:03] <Laney> heh
[14:03] <Laney> #topic Review of action items
[14:03] <Laney> #subtopic micahg to document the zentyal packageset
[14:03] <Laney> pending?
[14:03] <micahg> yeah
[14:03] <Laney> #subtopic micahg to ping beuno regarding CC discussion on whether upload rights should confer membership
[14:03] <Laney> done - yokozar started it
[14:04] <Laney> we got some +1s - should be able to finish with this before the next meeting?
[14:04] <tumbleweed> sounds likely
[14:04] <Laney> ok
[14:04] <micahg> yeah, if everyone could please respond (DMB members, myself included)
[14:04] <Laney> will someone get the CC to decide?
[14:04] <Laney> I'll +1
[14:05] <micahg> well, the idea was we (DMB) decide and the CC only acts if we're deadlocked
[14:05] <Laney> oh, so we can just go ahead
[14:05] <micahg> AIUI at least :)
[14:05] <barry> doesn't sound like we're deadlocked
[14:05] <Laney> sounds good
[14:05] <Laney> #subtopic stgraber to clean up coredev/motu duplicate package set rights
[14:06] <micahg> I think this was done as well
[14:06] <Laney> I also believe that to be the case
[14:06] <Laney> #subtopic stgraber to clean up coredev/motu duplicate package set rights
[14:06] <Laney> that's scott remnant fyi
[14:06] <Laney> oops
[14:06] <Laney> #subtopic remove scott from ubuntu-core-dev until he signs the CoC
[14:06] <Laney> & also done
[14:07] <Laney> #subtopic Laney (tumbleweed) to contact the uploaders of unused packagesets
[14:07] <Laney> I just pinged Luke about sugar
[14:07] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~stgraber/package_sets/quantal/ which other ones are a concern?
[14:07] <tumbleweed> is unr used?
[14:07] <ScottK> Which Scott?
[14:07] <Laney> I propose to contact the TB as owners to get rid of unr/netbook(/mobile?)
[14:08] <tumbleweed> ScottK: not you :)
[14:08] <Laney> 27/08 15:06:34 <Laney> that's scott remnant fyi
[14:08] <ScottK> OK.
[14:08] <micahg> ScottK: keybuk
[14:08] <ScottK> tumbleweed provided the critical part of the answer to my question.
[14:08] <Laney> cyphermox just said in #-desktop that networkmanager is unused
[14:09] <micahg> Laney: schooltool and mobile
[14:09] <Laney> #action laney to delete network-manager packageset
[14:09] <meetingology> ACTION: laney to delete network-manager packageset
[14:09] <Laney> #action laney to contact menesis about schooltool packageset
[14:09] <meetingology> ACTION: laney to contact menesis about schooltool packageset
[14:09] <Laney> #action laney to contact TB to see if netbook/unr/mobile packagesets are still needed
[14:09] <meetingology> ACTION: laney to contact TB to see if netbook/unr/mobile packagesets are still needed
[14:09] <Laney> ok?
[14:09] <micahg> sounds good
[14:10] <Laney> #topic Per-Package Uploader application: Keng-Yu Lin
[14:10] <Laney> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keng-YuLin/PPU
[14:10] <Laney> kengyu: Hey, that's you ;-)
[14:11] <kengyu> hello all. /wave
[14:11] <Laney> kengyu: Can you introduce yourself and your application please?
[14:11] <kengyu> I am a Canonical employee; I work in the Hardware Enablement team, we are responsible for the Ubuntu preloads for OEMs.
[14:12] <kengyu> I am from Taipei, Taiwan, and am also a Ubuntu user for long time. :-)
[14:12] <kengyu> I am applying the PPU for fwts...
[14:13] <Laney> Can you quickly explain for the laymen here what fwts is about?
[14:13] <kengyu> because it is part of HWE team's project, and we offer the software for a various uses (certification, OEM, UEFI plugfest, etc).
[14:14] <kengyu> it's suite of tests focusing on BIOS (or firmware in others words) and UEFI hardware (we are still working on this).
[14:15] <bdrung> kengyu: what does fwts stand for?
[14:15] <kengyu> "FirmWare Test Suite"
[14:16] <kengyu> the current tests fwts has in documented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/fwts
[14:18] <micahg> kengyu: I noticed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwts/0.24.21 you switched from dh-autoreconf to autoreconf, could you please explain why that was done?
[14:19] <kengyu> it's just because that Lucid does not have dh-autoreconf and Lucid was the LTS at that time, so I decided to keep the latest code working on Lucid.
[14:22] <micahg> kengyu: were you aware that dh-autoreconf did more than just the configure step?
[14:24] <micahg> kengyu: also, since I assume you weren't uploading to the archive, dh-autoreconf was available in lucid-backports
[14:27] <kengyu> micahg, I think dh-autoreconf does not cleaning work. But my original intention was not to "revert" the use of dh-autoreconf and use hand-made 'autoreconf' commands in debian/rules...
[14:29] <kengyu> I added the dh-autoreconf support in a previous patch. But had another one to use autoreconf because of Lucid support.
[14:29] <micahg> kengyu: right, which would be fine, but there are two parts and I only saw the configure part in that changelog
[14:29] <micahg> s/changelog/diff/
[14:30] <kengyu> micahg, it's good to know that it is in Lucid-backports. at the time I just noticed the build failure in the PPA.
[14:31] <micahg> kengyu: right, the more important part though is only implementing a partial manual rule in its place
[14:33] <kengyu> micahg, Yes, thanks for this. This will be something I will work on. :-)
[14:33] <Laney> thanks
[14:33] <Laney> does anybody have any other questions?
[14:33] <tumbleweed> sure
[14:33] <tumbleweed> kengyu: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=hwe/fwts.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca9a4ac791265e0e4e945c2472aee6650b078d7d
[14:34] <tumbleweed> does that mean it's ging to get upstream releases soon?
[14:34] <tumbleweed> *going
[14:36] <kengyu> tumbleweed, it's the plan. at least releasing as a tarball eases the pain for packaging for other distros (we've seen bug reported from gentoo too).
[14:36] <tumbleweed> yeah
[14:36] <tumbleweed> can we expect to see it in Debian, too, then?
[14:37] <kengyu> I have that as my plan. But it takes some more time before issuing the ITP. the ACPICA code (is in fwts) from Intel has some legal/copyright issue.
[14:37] <kengyu> there will be some more discussion I expect.
[14:38]  * tumbleweed looks forward to that at some point
[14:39] <Laney> kengyu: Quick question about the Ubuntu release cycle
[14:39] <Laney> kengyu: Do you know what Feature Freeze is and how it would impact any uploads of fwts you might perform?
[14:40] <kengyu> Laney, yes, after that freeze any upload will require the FFE.
[14:41] <Laney> kengyu: Where can you find out whethere we are in feature (or any other) freeze?
[14:41] <Laney> also, it's not quite 'any' upload — only ones which contain new features (i.e. aren't purely bug fix)
[14:42] <kengyu> from wiki.ubuntu.com there is a schedule table.
[14:42] <kengyu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[14:43] <Laney> kengyu: thanks, that's it from me
[14:43] <Laney> bdrung: go
[14:44] <bdrung> kengyu: fwts will fail to build twice in the row once you switch to the "3.0 (quilt)" source format
[14:45] <kengyu> bdrung, really! I did not notice that.
[14:46] <bdrung> kengyu: the source package content changes after one build: http://paste.debian.net/185847/
[14:46] <Laney> that's what micahg was getting at with the autoreconf questions
[14:46] <bdrung> kengyu: there might be no difference if you use the same autotools version
[14:47] <kengyu> brendand, ok, I will look at this. there should be more cleaning.
[14:47] <Laney> it's what dh_autoreconf_clean would do for you if you used that
[14:48] <bdrung> kengyu: do you check the lintian report including experimental before the upload? lintian found some typos in the source.
[14:50] <kengyu> bdrung, no, I did check the lintian error/warning. But I just check the ones from pbuilder-dist...
[14:50] <bdrung> kengyu: lintian has experimental and pedentic tags that are useful to check, too
[14:51] <Laney> running out of time, let's move on
[14:51] <Laney> barry: got anything to ask?
[14:51] <kengyu> bdrung, this is nice to know. I will check it next time. :-)
[14:51] <barry> Laney: no, my questions have already been asked by others
[14:51] <Laney> thanks
[14:51] <Laney> anyone else?
[14:52] <bdrung> nothing important
[14:52] <Laney> education can continue elsewhere afterwards
[14:52] <Laney> #vote Grant Keng-Yu Lin PPU to fwts
[14:52] <meetingology> Please vote on: Grant Keng-Yu Lin PPU to fwts
[14:52] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[14:53] <Laney> #voters bdrung Laney barry micahg tumbleweed stgraber cody-somerville
[14:53] <meetingology> Current voters: Laney barry bdrung cody-somerville micahg stgraber tumbleweed
[14:53] <tumbleweed> +1
[14:53] <meetingology> +1 received from tumbleweed
[14:53] <barry> +1
[14:53] <meetingology> +1 received from barry
[14:53] <bdrung> +1
[14:53] <meetingology> +1 received from bdrung
[14:53] <Laney> +1 good endorsements, good review process upstream
[14:53] <meetingology> +1 good endorsements, good review process upstream received from Laney
[14:54]  * Laney peers at micahg
[14:54] <micahg> +1, would love to see this in Debian soon
[14:54] <meetingology> +1, would love to see this in Debian soon received from micahg
[14:55] <Laney> #endvote
[14:55] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Grant Keng-Yu Lin PPU to fwts
[14:55] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[14:55] <meetingology> Motion carried
[14:55] <Laney> congratulations!
[14:55] <kengyu> thanks. :-)
[14:55] <Laney> #action stgraber to add ppu for lexical to fwts
[14:55] <meetingology> ACTION: stgraber to add ppu for lexical to fwts
[14:55] <Laney> #topic AOB
[14:56] <Laney> silence is good
[14:56] <Laney> #topic next chair
[14:57] <Laney> who is it?
[14:57] <Laney> I lost track
[14:57] <barry> cody-somerville :)
[14:57] <Laney> or?
[14:57] <tumbleweed> probably me, in practice
[14:57] <Laney> ok
[14:57] <barry> i think so
[14:58] <Laney> #action next chair cody-somerville (tumbleweed)
[14:58] <meetingology> ACTION: next chair cody-somerville (tumbleweed)
[14:58] <Laney> cheers
[14:58] <Laney> #endmeeting
[14:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 27 14:58:03 2012 UTC.
[14:58] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-14.01.moin.txt
[14:58] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-14.01.html
[14:58] <barry> thanks Laney !
[14:58]  * Laney urghs about the post-meeting tasks
[14:58]  * micahg urghs with Laney
[14:58] <Laney> hm
[14:58] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~/data/code/ubuntu-archive-tools$ ./edit-acl add -s fwts -p lexical
[14:59] <stgraber> Added:
[14:59] <Laney> AlanBell: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-14.01.html is the bot case sensitive wrt nicknames?
[14:59] <stgraber> Archive Upload Rights for lexical: archive 'primary', source package 'fwts'
[14:59] <stgraber> Laney: ^
[14:59] <Laney> stgraber: ta!
[14:59] <Laney> he magically appears after the meeting is done :P
[15:00] <stgraber> :)
[15:01]  * micahg goes poof again
[15:01] <micahg> oops...E_TOOMANYCHANNELS
[16:27] <AlanBell> Laney: erm, possibly, did someone change case during a meeting or something?
[16:27] <Laney> no
[16:27] <Laney> I did my own actions with #action laney ...
[16:27] <Laney> not #action Laney
[16:27] <Laney> and they got grouped as unassigned items
[16:27] <AlanBell> ah, that probably is case sensitive
[18:02] <jdstrand> hi!
[18:02] <tyhicks`> hello
[18:03] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[18:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 27 18:03:36 2012 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[18:03] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[18:03] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[18:03] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[18:03] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[18:04] <jdstrand> I'm in the happy place this week
[18:04] <jdstrand> I've got more MIR auditing and pending updates
[18:05] <jdstrand> I should also be finished with the second iteration of aa-sandbox and send that to the list
[18:05] <jdstrand> mdeslaur is not here today
[18:05] <jdstrand> sbeattie: you're up
[18:05] <sbeattie> I'm on community this week.
[18:05] <sbeattie> I also have a couple of updates to finish testing and push out.
[18:06] <sbeattie> I also need to get the apparmor-dbus ppa going and review aa-sandbox.
[18:06] <sbeattie> that's it for me.
[18:06] <sbeattie> did micahg make it back in time?
[18:06] <jdstrand> sbeattie: I recommend holding off on that review til I submit again
[18:06] <sbeattie> yeah
[18:08] <jdstrand> I think he is not. he can jump in later if he comes back
[18:08] <tyhicks> I'll go
[18:08] <tyhicks> I'm handling triage this week
[18:08] <tyhicks> I just returned from a long vacation and I'm still catching up
[18:08] <tyhicks> Another couple hours and I should be back on top of everything
[18:09] <tyhicks> While I was out, I finished xmlrpc-c patches for CVE-2012-0876 and CVE-2012-1148
[18:09] <tyhicks> I'll need to test those patches and try to get the updates out
[18:10] <tyhicks> I say 'try' because I'll be at the Linux Security Summit Thursday and Friday of this week
[18:10] <tyhicks> before I leave, i'm going to help jdstrand with a security audit
[18:10] <tyhicks> I think that's it for me
[18:11] <jjohansen> I guess I am up
[18:11] <tyhicks> jjohansen: yep, you're up
[18:12] <jjohansen> I need to finish up this the 2.8 port of the aa-dbus patches, and finish debugging the current set of kernel patches (rcu, fs update, ..), then I will be heading to Linux Security Summit for Thursday and Friday this week
[18:13] <jjohansen> that is it for me jdstrand back to you
[18:13] <jdstrand> thanks
[18:14] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[18:14] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[18:14] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[18:14] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/smokeping.html
[18:14] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/chasen.html
[18:14] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/msmtp.html
[18:14] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mhonarc.html
[18:14] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ruby-actionpack-2.3.html
[18:14] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[18:14] <jdstrand> There are a lot of merge opportunities for packages listed in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/. Performing these updates is a great way to help Ubuntu and bolster your developer application.
[18:14] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[18:20] <jdstrand> sbeattie, jjohansen, tyhicks: thanks!
[18:20] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[18:20] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 27 18:20:03 2012 UTC.
[18:20] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-18.03.moin.txt
[18:20] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-27-18.03.html
[18:20] <sbeattie> jdstrand: thanks!
[18:20] <jjohansen> Thanks jdstrand
[18:20] <tyhicks> thanks!


[12:27] <gnomefreak> i hate when that happens
[12:51] <asac> what?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> apport sucks
[12:53] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:54] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/feisty-retraces/firefox/bug89037$ apport-retrace -s -v -u _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash 2>&1 | tee retrace.log
[12:54] <asac> affirmative :)
[12:54] <gnomefreak> report file does not contain required fields: CoreDump Package ExecutablePath
[12:54] <gnomefreak> it has coredump
[12:54] <asac> add them manually :)
[12:54] <gnomefreak> not sure how im gonna run feisty retrace locally
[12:54] <gnomefreak> asac: he uploaded /var/crash file
[12:55] <asac> probably an old one?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> he didnt use apport to send the parts
[12:55] <asac> ah
[12:55] <asac> ok
[12:56] <gnomefreak> http://librarian.launchpad.net/6851033/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash
[12:56] <gnomefreak> it has eerything
[12:56] <asac> Bug 85833 appears to have a testcase
[12:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85833 in firefox "Firefox crashes with upload to a flash site" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85833
[09:06] <gnomefreak> who wanys a feisty retrace?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> wants
[09:22] <gnomefreak> what do we do with illegal shutdowns?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> is edgy getting <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:46] <hjmf> gnomefreak: I've retraced bug #93405 and closed since seems to be flashplugin caused
[09:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 93405 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crash -- flashplugin-nonfree" [High,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93405
[09:46] <hjmf> ...was the bug you assigned to me :)
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ah ty
[10:03] <hjmf> gnomefreak: same for bug 94797
[10:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94797 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crash -- flashplugin-nonfree" [High,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94797
[10:05] <joejaxx> gnomefreak: you are still awake as well? :P
[10:14] <gnomefreak> im awake not sure for how long but im up
[10:30] <gnomefreak> hjmf: if you get time can you retrace bug 89037
[10:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89037 in firefox "Ubuntu crashes when closing firefox and flashplugin" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89037
[10:30] <gnomefreak> apport hates me
[10:40] <hjmf> lol, sure taking bug to retrace
[10:46] <gnomefreak> hjmf: if you get same errors let me know. Its a feisty bug too
[10:47] <hjmf> ... noticed, retrace is now in progress... lets see
[10:48] <gnomefreak> it didnt fail right away?
[10:48] <hjmf> not yet
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ok sounds like it could be a regression in apport than but let me know ill ping pitti later about it
[10:49] <hjmf> gonna do a second retrace, due some packages uninstalled
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ok well its not failing on you than.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[10:50] <hjmf> doesnt fall, but I'm using old apport as always
[10:51] <gnomefreak> thats what makes me think its a regression
[10:51] <gnomefreak> filing report as alwways
[10:53] <gnomefreak> too many features took over the working features
[10:55] <hjmf> agree
[10:58] <gnomefreak> it might have been me im gonna try something :(
[11:05] <gnomefreak> asac: are you around?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> asac: is there anything we can do (patch <IP_ADDRESS>) to fix bug 72018. i know its not security issue but damn its an epidemic it seems
[11:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018
[11:07] <gnomefreak> for edgy not feisty
[11:13] <hjmf> gnomefreak: retrace of bug 89037 finished, Im closing the report because the reporter uses non ubuntu native packages
[11:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89037 in firefox "Ubuntu crashes when closing firefox and flashplugin" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89037
[11:14] <gnomefreak> hjmf: ok just please state that. im gonna have martin look at it later (i filed bug already on it)
[11:14] <hjmf> k
[11:14] <gnomefreak> im trying a few things with it maybe it was me
[11:15] <gnomefreak> report file does not contain required fields: CoreDump Package ExecutablePath
[11:15] <gnomefreak> im still getting that. maybe due to non ubuntu packages
[11:16] <hjmf> ... yes new apport expects launchpad to have the unpacked report
[11:16] <hjmf> I guess
[11:17] <gnomefreak> see thats what i was thinking too but still should beable to run it locally
[11:17] <gnomefreak> just incase people dont use apport
[11:18] <hjmf> I managed to crash new apport using
[11:18] <hjmf> apport-retrace -r ./CoreDump.gz -m ./ProcMaps.txt -v -o retrace.out
[11:18] <hjmf> locally
[11:18] <hjmf> that's all I get with brand new apport retrace
[11:19] <hjmf> IMHO new apport should have old apport's options (you may want to tell pitti)
[11:20] <hjmf> ... and combine old with new ones
[11:39] <gnomefreak> btw if you run into the gtk_style_background or whatever the background crashes are the master bug is bug 90583
[11:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 90583 in firefox "MASTER Firefox crashes  [@gtk_style_apply_default_background] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90583
[11:40] <gnomefreak> if i feel energenic enough after this retrace i might start going through the bugs again
[11:41] <gnomefreak> and if anyone knows how to get the meail for malone working please let me know. i did what wiki said (i could swear i did) and they went to personal emails even though the reply was for the bug
[11:43] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: is there a list of issues been fixed in the preview archives for me to test somewhere?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: not that i know of off hand
[11:44] <AlexLatchford> hmm okay
[11:44] <gnomefreak> <IP_ADDRESS> will be released in the next few days afaik and should fix some bugs if not alot
[11:44] <gnomefreak> he might have that in preview already but not sure
[11:46] <AlexLatchford> im on <IP_ADDRESS>-mt2
[11:46] <gnomefreak> and hopefully he will add tb 2.0 to bzr branch
[11:46] <AlexLatchford> nice
[11:46] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: im on standard ubuntu version ff :)
[11:46] <AlexLatchford> you on Feisty or Edgy?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> he already released fx 3.0 to bzr :)
[11:47] <gnomefreak> feisty
[11:47] <AlexLatchford> you have to compile it yourself?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: yes but its simplfied
[11:47] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[11:47] <gnomefreak> 3 commands and poof
[11:47] <AlexLatchford> may have a go at that in a minute then
[11:49] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: just clone the branch and cd into dir. and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot (you can use key if you like not needed.) than cd into home and install the .debs :) you will have both in your menu 2.0 and 3.0 :)
[11:49] <AlexLatchford> nice
[11:49] <AlexLatchford> ill do that in a minute then
[11:49] <AlexLatchford> ooo.. 3.0 has Javascript 2.0
[11:50] <hjmf> gnomefreak: malone mail: I thought that was me because of my *low* profile. I couldn't manage to make it work rightly
[11:50] <gnomefreak> so it does it for you too?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> i might ping asac or dh later see if they can enlighten me on it
[11:52] <gnomefreak> is there a memcpy master bug yet?
[11:52] <hjmf> memcpy?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> yeah ive seen that in a binch of retraces but still dont think its part of crash but might be
[11:54] <hjmf> bug 70415 ? which is not a master
[11:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70415 in firefox "Crash with Edgy 64 bit" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70415
[11:55] <hjmf> #3 0x00002b7f6eacbaf3 in memcpy () from /lib/libc.so.6
[11:55] <gnomefreak> looking
[11:55] <gnomefreak> yeah that line
[11:55] <gnomefreak> something liek that line atleast
[11:55] <hjmf> it's pretty old you might want to mark as master for the moment
[11:55] <gnomefreak> i might be reading that wrong but thats pretty much all we are getting in stack
[11:56] <gnomefreak> that looks identical stack and thread
[11:57] <gnomefreak> but im not sure if its that or the pr lines that we need to be looking at. pinging asac about it later if i remember
[11:57] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: when is the next Mozilla Team Meeting?
[11:57] <AlexLatchford> Fridge has it as the 6th
[11:58] <AlexLatchford> the Meetings page has it as the 3rd
[11:58] <hjmf> awk for a while
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i havent heard back fro mthe 3 emails i sent so i set it for april3
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i will ping a fridge person this weekend and set it up
[11:58] <AlexLatchford> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
[11:58] <AlexLatchford> so its on Saturday the 3rd?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> apriil 3rd
[11:59] <gnomefreak> its on a tuesday
[11:59] <AlexLatchford> no, the 6th is a tuesday
[11:59] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: your looking at marches schedule
[11:59] <gnomefreak> april 3rd is a tuesday
[12:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:00] <gnomefreak> its early ;)
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> its 11 here lol
[12:00] <gnomefreak> if you have agenda please add it
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> okay so 3rd it is
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> ill update the Wiki
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> and send out a mail to the list reminding
[12:01] <gnomefreak> wait on that for a few
[12:01] <gnomefreak> i need to get it confirmed with fridge
[12:01] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[12:01] <AlexLatchford> we are looking a bit sparse on Topics so I wanted to send a reminder asap
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ok sent /msg to one of the guys
[12:03] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: ill check fridge see if anyone has that time and date
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> dont believe anyone has currently
[12:04] <gnomefreak> nope
[12:04] <gnomefreak> but damn that means i have 2 meeting same day only a couple hours apart if that long
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> ouch
[12:05] <gnomefreak> oh they are UTC oops
[12:05] <gnomefreak> CC meeting is in morning and kernel is around 11am my time
[12:05] <gnomefreak> and than ours in afternoon
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> yep
[12:05] <gnomefreak> it will work :)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> lol pot flavoured lollipops
[01:07] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 93367 is very strange behavour it is defiltly reproducible.
[01:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 93367 in firefox "Window stay shrinked when using back button from shrinked page" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93367
[01:36] <gnomefreak> hjmf: dont yell but i gave you another one of my rejects see bug 94882 for more info.
[01:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94882 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall() filling out a bug report" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94882
[01:51] <asac> hi ... will be here in half an hour or so
[01:51] <asac> :)
[01:53] <gnomefreak> ok
[01:54] <gnomefreak> ha only one bug set as unconfirmed :)
[02:15] <asac> great
[02:15] <asac> i could reproduce bug 93367
[02:15] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 93367 in firefox "Window stay shrinked when using back button from shrinked page" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93367
[02:16] <asac> we should probably investigate upstream
[02:17] <asac> marked as such
[02:22] <asac> i go out in the sun :) spring time is here again ;)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> lol here too about. take a look at bug 91359 please
[02:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 91359 in firefox "firefox always detect poweroff from kde as crash" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91359
[02:27] <gnomefreak> ok im gone for a little while to spend time with my sisters before they leave.
[02:31] <asac> bug 91359 is duplicate of instant x shutdown master
[02:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 91359 in firefox "firefox always detect poweroff from kde as crash" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91359
[03:05] <gnomefreak> is that something we are gonna fix?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> i hate to use the word fix in that since its not really broken. its doing that it should be doing
[03:58] <asac> we should investigate: e.g. what signal is received et al.
[04:02] <asac> but can we reproduce?
[04:02] <asac> then we could use strace -f firefox &> /tmp/log
[04:02] <asac> to capture signals et al
[05:08] <asac> do we have crashes in  IM_get_owning_window ?
[05:11] <asac> i really need someone who can reproduce the IME_ crash
[05:11] <asac> i have how two patches which might help ... one is officially bad ... the other looks better and is said to fix our crash implicitely
[05:45] <gnomefreak> IM_get-owning_window?
[06:03] <asac> nevermind ... comments suggest that it will not help on branches :/
[06:16] <gnomefreak> meeting is set for april 3 1800
[06:22] <asac> k
[06:22] <asac> 1800 UTC?
[06:23] <asac> ok ... final testbuild for feisty ffox
[06:23] <asac> ;)
[06:23] <asac> lets see :)
[06:27] <asac> damn https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libthai/0.1.8-2
[06:27] <asac> its still not build :(
[06:27] <asac> wake up builder ... wake up :)
[06:35] <asac> gnomefreak: you have a slow connection, right?
[06:35] <asac> :)
[06:35] <asac> could be handy here
[06:35] <gnomefreak> yep i do
[06:35] <asac> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/89071
[06:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89071 in firefox "Can't allow sites for adding extensions" [High,Confirmed]
[06:35] <asac> do you always see the error
[06:35] <asac> there are voices that say that it might work on slow connections
[06:35] <asac> while on fast ... it breaks
[06:36] <asac> ouch ... bug 40610
[06:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40610 in firefox "History wiped out if disk full when firefox exits" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/40610
[06:36] <asac> i guess user is unhappy :)
[06:37] <asac> ah just histroy :) i read: harddisk wiped out ;)
[06:38] <gnomefreak> it installed just fine
[06:38] <gnomefreak> using upstream testcase
[06:39] <gnomefreak> i am unable to reproduce this bug
[06:40] <gnomefreak> i dont get the yellow edit options bar at all.
[06:41] <gnomefreak> iirc ther eis a setting for it. quick fix set your prefferences a differnet way ;)
[06:42] <asac> hmm
[06:42] <asac> you already whitelisted then
[06:42] <asac> remove that in privacy
[06:42] <asac> or something
[06:42] <asac> then try again :)
[06:44] <gnomefreak> nope just mozilla links
[06:45] <gnomefreak> addons.mozilla.org ftp.mozilla.org and update.mozilla.org
[06:45] <asac> hmm
[06:45] <asac> maybe its hosted on ftp.mozilla.org because of this bug?
[06:45] <gnomefreak> i just removed all of them
[06:46] <asac> google has quite good connections to mozilla ... so maybe taht is the case :)
[06:46] <asac> ok
[06:46] <asac> maybe restart before trying ... who knows :)
[06:48] <gnomefreak> not getting error but i got yellow bar and edit options doesnt do anything
[06:49] <gnomefreak> ok on the upstream link edit options works fine it give syou the dialog box
[06:49] <gnomefreak> but on the local bug it does not
[06:49] <gnomefreak> for some reason its addon.mozilla.org :)
[06:53] <gnomefreak> the extentions dont work either
[06:54] <asac> what?
[06:54] <asac> i don't understand
[06:54] <asac> when do you get no reaction on edit options and when do you?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> asac: on LP bug edit options does not work on upstream bug it works fine
[06:55] <gnomefreak> using the links in the bug reports
[07:03] <asac> hmm
[07:06] <asac> guess i will look tomorrow in this :)
[07:06] <asac> its wierd
[07:31] <gnomefreak> asac: <IP_ADDRESS> is going in edgy right?
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: it should, security fixes.
[07:31] <gnomefreak> it should yes but i ask to make sure
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[07:33] <gnomefreak> ok im out
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> am I the only one that is sick of getting emails about the bug one bug report
[07:48] <gnomefreak> wasnt <IP_ADDRESS> released yet?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> hmmmm why did someone say <IP_ADDRESS> was out?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> its still ..3
[07:52] <gnomefreak> ok now gone.
[08:05] <asac> y
[08:32] <hjmf> got two similar *and poor* retraces on bug 95545 and bug  94749 ;
[08:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 95545 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crash [@gtk_widget_event_internal] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/95545
[08:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 94749 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crash [@gtk_widget_event_internal] " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94749
[08:33] <hjmf> maybe a new gtk issue stuff
[08:33] <hjmf> ?
[12:12] <asac> gnomefreak: yes <IP_ADDRESS> will go everywhere


[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114126 in ubiquity (main) "[apport]  ubiquity crashed with ValueError in command()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114126
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #114127 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Xgl: Display bugs near mouse pointer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114127
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114129 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes suddenly and frequently" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114129
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114130 in Ubuntu "Eclipse-CDT doesn't have Eclipse as a dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114130
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114136 in cryptsetup (universe) "merge cryptsetup-1.0.4+svn29 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114136
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114137 in thuban (universe) "New version Request - Thuban to 1.2.0-1 (from Debian Unstable)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114137
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114141 in Ubuntu "Rhythmbox uses lots of CPU when sharing via DAAP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114141
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114143 in dvdauthor (universe) "[apport]  dvdauthor crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114143
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114144 in eric (universe) "Eric inserts strange chars into text if Ctrl+S is pressed for a while" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114144
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114145 in firefox (main) "Netgear MA401 wireless PCMCIA card insurted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114145
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114146 in Ubuntu "Mediamate : apt script fails to configure correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114146
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114147 in mediamate (universe) "Mediamate : apt script fails to configure correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114147
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114148 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer's gui get spoiled after resizing window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114148
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114149 in software-properties (main) "[apport]  software-properties-kde crashed with SIGSEGV in QTreeWidgetItem::setData()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114149
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114150 in bristol (universe) "please sync with upstream version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114150
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114151 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114151
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114152 in bristol (universe) "please sync with upstream version (dup-of: 114150)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114152
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114153 in amarok (main) "amarok crash editing mp3 tag" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114153
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #107148 in tellico (universe) "Tellico 1.2.10 not getting all IMDB data." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107148
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114154 in Ubuntu "almost all programs crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114154
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114155 in firefox (main) "firefox crash in java chat" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114155
[04:24] <harrisony> i wana bug tshirt https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/TShirtDesigns
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #114156 in tellico (universe) "[Gutsy Merge]  tellico_1.2.11-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114156
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114158 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114158
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #114159 in python-numpy (universe) "Merge python-numpy 1.0.2-2 from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114159
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114160 in gdm (main) "[FEATURE] Startup sound disable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114160
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114161 in chuck (universe) "chuck uses sampling rate of 44100 with jack instead of 48000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114161
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114162 in chuck (universe) "chuck doesn't suggest/recommend jackd, but seems to need it to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114162
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114163 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet should recommend libdeskbar-tracker" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114163
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #114164 in kmplayer (main) "video " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114164
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114166 in Ubuntu "Alternate Install CD looks like it locked up on older systems, but is just slow :)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114166
[08:10] <deniz_ogut> Hi dear friends. Deminding that I'm a relatively new bug reporter I want to ask something related with Bug #83077 and Bug #107006. 1-Should I change the status of a bug which was reported during a pre-stable release and rejected by an experienced person but with no reason available and which I believe the bug is still valid as seen in the relatively new report and depending on my personal experiance and many reports in Forums. 2- Should I mark it
[08:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 83077 in xfburn "xfburn fails to burn cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83077
[08:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107006 in xfburn "xfburn: don't want burn iso's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107006
[08:12] <persia> deniz_ogut: If you check 83077 carefully, you will see that there are two listed tasks "Ubuntu" and "xfburn (UBuntu)".  The Ubuntu task has been rejected, but the xfburn task remains Uncnofirmed.
[08:13] <deniz_ogut> OK. What should I do for the rest. linking them? Confirming?
[08:15] <persia> deniz_ogut: Check the error messages carefully: if the output is different, it may represent different bugs.  If you know the code, and they have the same cause, even with different errors, definitely duplicate, otherwise, be careful.  The second bug (with a "me too" comment) might be a good candidate for confirmation.
[08:18] <deniz_ogut> persia: Lets forget about the first and forget about marking as duplicate. For the second: Its obviously not working for me too and as I said almost all xubuntu community knows about the issue. Should I add a "me too" comment or confirm? Not asking for this bug in particular in general for such situations?
[08:19] <persia> deniz_ogut: There is already a "me too" comment, so more offer very little value.  You probably want to make sure the bug is confirmed, as this status is more interesting to developers.
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114167 in kmplayer (main) "[apport]  kxineplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_gui_send_vo_data()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114167
[08:20] <deniz_ogut> persia: So i will confirm! ok?
[08:21] <persia> deniz_ogut: Further, you can use aptitude show <package> to get more information.  In this case, the maintainer has an @ubuntu.com email address - it may be worth checking to see if they are subscribed to the bug (including indirectly, through teams).  If not, you might try asking them for input.
[08:22] <persia> deniz_ogut: I'd say confirming is good if there is both a "me too" comment, and you can reproduce it locally.  Even only the latter is generally enough.
[08:23] <deniz_ogut> persia: Thanks. I'll do all you said. God forgive me if I do something wrong!
[08:24] <persia> deniz_ogut: Don't worry.  If you can be sure that something is "Confirmed", it's a good idea to mark it so.  If someone is investigating later to fix it, and cannot reproduce it, they will probably reset to "Needs Info" and ask for help again.  Be sure to subscribe to bugs you've confirmed, as you can probably help in testing as a fix is prepared.
[08:25] <deniz_ogut> Thanks a lot. I will do so.
[08:25] <persia> deniz_ogut: Thanks for helping with the bugs!
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114168 in kde-guidance (main) "KeyError and IndexError exceptions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114168
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #114169 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-2.10 crashed with SIGSEGV in camel_cipher_decrypt()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114169
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #114170 in initramfs-tools (main) "Software RAID sometimes fails to assemble arrays on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114170
[09:12] <deniz_ogut> persia: sorry I am taking your time. You've said "you can use aptitude show <package> to get more information.  In this case, the maintainer has an @ubuntu.com email address - it may be worth checking to see if they are subscribed to the bug (including indirectly, through teams).  If not, you might try asking them for input." Do you want me to see the area '"xfburn" source package in ubuntu' area at the bottom of the left column of the Bug #107006
[09:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 10700 in linda "FTBFS: test failures" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10700
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #114171 in Ubuntu "RTL8111 PCI Express Gigabit driver r8169 big files produce slow file transfer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114171
[09:17] <persia> deniz_ogut: That works too (I tend to use aptitude).  Before contacting them, check to make sure that they are not subscribed or notified about the bug (and not a member of a subscribed or notified team, or a member of a team that is a member, etc.).  If they are subscribed, they will receive an email when you mark it "Confirmed".
[09:17] <deniz_ogut> persia: Sorry what is the way "aptitude"? What should I do?
[09:19] <deniz_ogut> !aptitude
[09:19] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:19] <persia> deniz_ogut: Using the web interface is works well for this: the information is the same however it is collected.  aptitude is a command line program for managing packages, including getting information, installing, removing, searching, etc.
[09:19] <deniz_ogut> oh I know about it but didn't think they are relavent. ok.
[09:20] <deniz_ogut> command line . ok. thanks. No more questions today.
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114172 in klamav (universe) "[apport]  klammail crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114172
[09:21] <persia> deniz_ogut: It's usually only safe to contact the maintainer if there is an @ubuntu.com email address, so don't do this every time.
[09:22] <deniz_ogut> persia: in my example the maintainer has such an address and is not subcnibed to this bug, now I'll check if he is a member of the teams which are subscribed.
[09:25] <persia> deniz_ogut: Is this bug critical for you?  It looks like it might be annoying for some xubuntu users, but if you do contact the maintainer, you'll likely be asked to provide a fair amount of debugging information.  If you're just working as part of bugsquad, you might do better to set "Confirmed", check the debian bugs (if there is a Debian package) or the upstream bugs, and add a link to any other information about the bug.
[09:29] <deniz_ogut> persia: This bug is important for me for this reason: I can easily install another burner but it seems unbelivable to me and it disturbs me much how xubuntu's default burner is not working -understood that from the Edgy era this issue is widely known. This become something related with principles. Not just an ordinary bug. For the bug squad side, thanks you helped a lot. Now I know what to do better.
[09:30] <persia> deniz_ogut: If it's critical, and you're prepared to help debug and fix, by all means, make sure that a developer is aware of the issue.  You might also check for #xubuntu support resources, who may be able to provide better guidance than I regarding who might be best contacted to fix the bug.
[09:33] <deniz_ogut> persia: Ok, i will also let developers to know, but believe me everybody knows about it and what seem to me, they think in this way: Install something else, there are many in repositories. This is not acceptable I think and I'll go on from that bug reports track. And yes, as you advice, I'll try to find the developers of it as well if the dev team survives.
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114173 in gs-esp (main) "gs-esp crashes when printing a web page to PDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114173
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114174 in Ubuntu "crash on logon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114174
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114176 in gproftpd (universe) "[apport]  gproftpd crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114176
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114177 in Ubuntu "Overheating forces shutdown in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114177
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114178 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114178
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114179 in firefox (main) "Error establishing an encrypted connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114179
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114180 in beagle (main) "permission problem during post-installation script" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114180
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114181 in freqtweak (universe) "Please upgrade freqtweak" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114181
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114182 in Ubuntu "I am getting some light lines on the desktop when tool tip is displayed in 3D desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114182
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114183 in network-manager (main) "network-manager roaming mode not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114183
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114185 in Ubuntu "KMail does't display messages in message panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114185
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114186 in poppler (main) "libpoppler-qt4-dev seams to miss some header files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114186
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114187 in bum (universe) "Bum doesn't support powernowd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114187
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114191 in Ubuntu "Gaim showing wrong status" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114191
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114192 in packagesearch (universe) "[apport]  packagesearch crashed with SIGSEGV in pkgDepCache::Init()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114192
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114193 in murrine (universe) "murrine themes don't apply to admin apps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114193
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114194 in beagle (main) "[apport]  BeagleDaemon.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_Backtrace()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114194
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114184 in iptables (main) "iptables doesn't support rt match" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114184
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114195 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114195
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114196 in Ubuntu "firefox opens and crashes after 2 seconds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114196
[11:48] <ubotu> New bug: #114188 in gnome-panel (main) "sometimes when i log into my ubuntu account dont appear the gnome-panels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114188
[11:48] <ubotu> New bug: #114189 in nautilus (main) "Feisty: Nautilus freeze when file properties is requested" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114189
[11:48] <ubotu> New bug: #114190 in gnome-media (main) "Realtek moderboard's sound card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114190
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114197 in Ubuntu "is my pc too old for feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114197
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114198 in k3d (universe) "[apport]  k3d-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __dynamic_cast()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114198
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114199 in openoffice.org (main) "oowriter crashes due to problems with libspell" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114199
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114200 in valknut (universe) "[apport]  valknut crashed with SIGSEGV in CString::CString()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114200
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114201 in cairo-java (universe) "[MoM Sync]  please sync cairo-java from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114201
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #114202 in apt (main) "can't update packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114202
[12:14] <Arby> morning all
[12:14] <Arby> anybody got time to look at bug 114040
[12:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114040 in update-manager "[apport]  package gnome-games failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114040
[12:14] <Arby> especially if you speak French
[12:15] <Arby> is gnome-games part of a default Ubuntu desktop?
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #114203 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_once()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114203
[12:16] <Hobbsee> Arby: it's recommended, yes
[12:17] <Hobbsee> Arby: sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ apt cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep gnome-games
[12:17] <Arby> thanks Hobbsee
[12:17] <Arby> just wanted to check before I try and explain it to the reporter
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114204 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114204
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114205 in xteddy (universe) "Update manager failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114205
[12:25] <Arby> next question, bug 111682, is there any reason that guy can't use an Nvidia GE8800 on Ubuntu?
[12:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111682 in update-manager "Could not initialize the package information" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111682
[12:26] <Arby> I have no nvidia hardware so I don't know.
[12:26] <Arby> I'm inclined to point him at the support channels
[12:26] <Kmos> Arby: maybe there isn't drivers yet for it.. don't knmow
[12:26] <Kmos> *know
[12:28] <DarkMageZ> iirc, he needs to use nvidia-glx-new
[12:29] <DarkMageZ> as the new driver added support for newer cards
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #114206 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  assoGiate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114206
[12:30] <Arby> DarkMageZ: thanks, I'll do some digging
[12:32] <gnomefreak> is the 8800 a go card?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Arby: it looks as if that card isnt supported :( see: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[12:34] <gnomefreak> nvm it is there
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Arby: is it GTX or GTS?
[12:34] <Arby> checking
[12:34] <Arby> GTS
[12:35] <gnomefreak> Arby: it should use the 9755 drivers package == nvidia-glx-new
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114208 in dbus (main) "[apport]  dbus-launch crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114208
[12:36] <Arby> gnomefreak: thanks, this is really a support question now but I'll at least give the guy a start
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Arby: also make sure he never used envy or installed drivers from nvidia site as the restricted-manager app may fail to work
[12:37] <Arby> right, will do
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114209 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114209
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114210 in k3b (main) "k3b hangs on startup and cannot be killed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114210
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114211 in gossip (universe) "[MoM Sync]  please sync gossip from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114211
[12:47] <harrisony> anyone here
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114212 in Ubuntu "fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114212
[12:50] <Arby> harrisony: yes
[12:51] <harrisony> Arby, this person has nominated this bug for Feisty when its not been fixed is there anyway to remove that? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wordpress/+bug/104944
[12:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104944 in wordpress "WordPress Post_ID Parameter SQL Injection Vulnerability" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:52] <Arby> let me look
[12:55] <Arby> harrisony: do you mean remove the 'nominated for feisty' line?
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114213 in nose (universe) "python-nose complains about missing profile plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114213
[12:55] <harrisony> Arby, thats the one :) (aka yes)
[12:57] <Arby> I don't know how you get launchpad to do that actually.
[12:57] <Arby> you might try #launchpad or #ubuntu-motu and see if they know
[12:57] <Arby> I'm still trying to learn launchpad myself
[12:57] <Arby> anybody else know^^
[12:59] <persia> harrisony: As far as I know, once nominated, it needs to be accepted or rejected by an ubuntu-dev.
[12:59] <harrisony> damn it
[12:59] <harrisony> oh well, i didnt do it :P
[01:00] <Arby> harrisony: I guess you just leave it then and a dev will deal with it in their own time :)
[01:00] <harrisony> yeah fare enough
[01:01] <Arby> have we got any ubuntu-devs here who can tell us for definite?
[01:01] <DarkMageZ> harrisony, fair*
[01:01] <harrisony> DarkMageZ, GAH! why is everyone picking up on my english use today
[01:02] <DarkMageZ> harrisony, cause we care about your mental abilities
[01:03] <harrisony> DarkMageZ, i have exams, i fail i dont really care :P (well i do really)
[01:03] <DarkMageZ> harrisony, you know where we should continue this
[01:04] <harrisony> DarkMageZ, /dev/null ?
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114214 in nose (universe) "nosetests manual hopelessly out of sync with --help, or vice versa" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114214
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114215 in apport (main) "apport has a big memory/process leak" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114215
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114216 in Ubuntu "Nvidia-glx-new makes my system crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114216
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114217 in yelp (main) "Recommend a file converter for Windows in official Ubuntu documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114217
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114218 in linux-meta (main) "Cannot compile a driver due to missing files in linux-source" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114218
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114219 in tuxtype (main) "[apport]  tuxtype crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114219
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114220 in update-manager (main) "Update Manager says there are updates when there aren't any" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114220
[01:22] <rulus> Hi, I have this hugely annoying copy/paste bug.. Anyone knows if it's already reported?
[01:25] <persia> rulus: You'd do best to search https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu.
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114221 in aptoncd (universe) "[Sync Request]  Sync aptoncd 0.1-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114221
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114222 in space-orbit (universe) "[apport]  orbit crashed with SIGSEGV in _nv000533gl()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114222
[01:29] <rulus> it's exactly like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/21202 , except it happens with other applications than Firefox too, like f.ex. Evolution, Liferea etc.. It is very _very_ annoying
[01:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 21202 in firefox "firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management" [Low,In progress]
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114223 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114223
[01:31] <DarkMageZ> rulus, you're not paranoid. i suffer that as well.
[01:32] <rulus> I hate it :(
[01:32] <rulus> Is there some general package we can report it against? Some package that controls the copy/pasting thing, if this exists?
[01:32] <DarkMageZ> file it against nothing, someone who knows will know where to push it. subscribe me to it as well
[01:33] <rulus> ok, I'll report it in a minute
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114224 in k3b (main) "Burn additional CDs with k3b" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114224
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114225 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem-video-indexer crashed with SIGSEGV in start_thread()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114225
[01:46] <rulus> hmm, this is already reported as bugs #68093 #21202 #68101, should I just add the same bug to the other applications affected? Apparently there's some new GTK copy/paste protocol, which these apps don't support yet.
[01:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 68093 in epiphany-browser "epiphany doesn't use gnome's copy & paste protocol" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68093
[01:46] <rulus> bug #21202
[01:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 21202 in firefox "firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/21202
[01:46] <rulus> bug #68101
[01:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 68101 in gaim "gaim doesn't follow gnome's new copy-paste protocol" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68101
[01:47] <DarkMageZ> hmm, well the problem is worse than that... see not all apps are gnome apps.
[01:49] <DarkMageZ> so i'd probably file a specification that would require all ubuntu apps to work correctly.
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114226 in openoffice.org (main) "[apport]  OOo database crashed with SIGSEGV in osl_getFileStatus()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114226
[01:56] <Kmos> persia: bug 114229
[01:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114229 in k3b "Please update to k3b 1.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114229
[01:58] <persia> Kmos: OK.  I'll take a look.
[02:00] <Kmos> persia: thanks
[02:00] <persia> Kmos: Subscribing or highlighting here is fine.  Please don't assign bugs unless you are the manager of the affected developer (or that developer yourself)
[02:00] <Kmos> ok :(
[02:00] <Kmos> persia: confirm it also :)
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114227 in rhythmbox (main) "jamendo plugin needs libgnomevfs2-extra" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114227
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114228 in Ubuntu "ubuntu server never starts on amd-K6( 96Mb Ram 4Gb Hard Drive)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114228
[02:01] <Kmos> persia: i assign it to you, because you do the last package
[02:02] <Kmos> persia: maybe a backport for feisty isn't a bad idea
[02:03] <persia> Kmos: I understand, but that's not always correct.  Each package typically doesn't have a dedicated Ubuntu maintainer, rather certain people or teams watch each group of packages.  In this case, my last upload was a rebuild for a library transition.
[02:03] <Kmos> ok, i won't do it again
[02:03] <Kmos> :)
[02:04] <Kmos> bug 75887
[02:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 75887 in k3b "k3b can't find bin file in the same directory" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75887
[02:05] <persia> Kmos: If you know someone is interested in a package, it's no problem to subscribe them, but assignment is different.  Also, this early in the development cycle, lots of packages haven't been updated yet.
[02:05] <Kmos> yeah
[02:05] <Kmos> i can subscribe, but not assign
[02:05] <Kmos> so the person will be notified
[02:05] <Kmos> and choose what to do
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114229 in k3b (main) "Please update to k3b 1.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114229
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114230 in amarok (main) "installer app crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114230
[02:17] <DarkMageZ> does anyone know what irc name Jrme Guelfucci goes under?
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114231 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in finishScreenDrawing()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114231
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114232 in gdm (main) "gdm won't start the first time; second does" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114232
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114233 in Ubuntu "recording device does not respond" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114233
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114234 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114234
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114235 in Ubuntu "CD-Icon on desktop: no possibility to assign an action" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114235
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #114236 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu boot up very slow(more than 2:50minutes)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114236
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114239 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-checkreports crashed with SIGSEGV in PyObject_Malloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114239
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114240 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "failed software installation, system can no longer update. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114240
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114241 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package shared-mime-info failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114241
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114242 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114242
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114243 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Marlin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114243
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #114244 in Ubuntu "Where are .h libraries for gcc compiler?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114244
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114245 in Ubuntu "Desktop Effects Disables title bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114245
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114246 in thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird crashes while editing a draft" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114246
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114248 in Ubuntu "Cannot create ext3 partition when installing 7.04 over old HPFS partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114248
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114249 in python-dns (universe) "Sync request python-dns 2.3.0-6 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114249
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114250 in Ubuntu "imprimante lexmark 1190 n' imprime pas" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114250
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114253 in bluez-utils (main) "Bluetooth dund connection doesnt work after dist-upgrade edgy->feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114253
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114254 in Ubuntu "gstreamer feisty audio cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114254
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #114255 in Ubuntu "[apport]  drkonqi crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::activate_signal()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114255
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114259 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114259
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114256 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  WaveMixer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114256
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #114257 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in vfprintf()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114257
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #114261 in chbg (universe) "chbg crashes with Gdk-ERROR" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114261
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114263 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice2.0 Presentation Crash on changing Slide Deign" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114263
[05:10] <jackie> Hi! I'm working on bug #112942. Before i'm going to read the coredump i'd like to know more what the user was doing. What's the best way to get this information? I've already added such a message to the bug.
[05:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112942 in nicotine "[apport]  nicotine crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112942
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #114264 in synaptic (main) "i dont have primition to use it and it doest show up under 'system' category" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114264
[05:13] <ScottK> jackie: That's the best way.  Now you have to wait...
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #114267 in d4x (universe) "[apport]  nt crashed with SIGSEGV in start_thread()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114267
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114269 in Ubuntu "[apport]  restricted-manager crashed with ValueError in command()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114269
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114270 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "system freeze with unkown reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114270
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114271 in beagle (main) "beagle crashes on login-running ubuntu with kde, not kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114271
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114272 in gwget2 (universe) "merge gwget2-0.98.2 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114272
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114273 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  nspluginviewer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114273
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114275 in gaim (main) "Icon logs are too big" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114275
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114276 in kdeaddons (main) "[apport]  orient.py crashed with ValueError in dump_IFD()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114276
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #114277 in kamefu (universe) "[Sync Request]  sync kamefu 0.1.1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114277
[06:07] <jackie> #114275 I assume gaim crashed? What's the tag to request a stack trace? I forgot?
[06:10] <Kmos> jackie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags
[06:10] <jackie> Kmos thnx
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #114278 in totem (main) "totem movie player could not play VCD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114278
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114279 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114279
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #114280 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  gDVB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114280
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114281 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  ZapDvb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114281
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114282 in openldap2.3 (main) "[apport]  package slapd failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114282
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114284 in totem (main) ""Movie Player" default for audio files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114284
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114285 in gnome-panel (main) "switching desktops fails to remove windows (in Beryl)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114285
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114286 in Ubuntu "systemsettings crash in Gutsy Gibbon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114286
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #114287 in liferea (main) "lifera crahs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114287
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114288 in bristol (universe) "[apport]  bristolengine crashed with SIGSEGV in wave2()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114288
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #114289 in Ubuntu "General Internet error has occurred" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114289
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #114290 in Ubuntu "Epson Stylus Photo 895 will not print" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114290
[07:46] <salty-horse> hi. I just installed ubuntu on a laptop with an ATI card. somehow, xorg.conf had fglrx in the Driver, but the xorg-driver-fglrx package wasn't installed - X didn't start. I had to boot from CD again, download the package and save it on the hard drive, and then install it on the machine - shouldn't it be installed automatically?
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114293 in Ubuntu "Can't play a ogg theora file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114293
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> salty-horse: no, fglrx is a binary proprietary drive
[08:27] <salty-horse> Admiral_Chicago, then why it was set on by default? :)
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure what your system was doing. :/
[08:29] <salty-horse> Admiral_Chicago, when I booted from the ubuntu cd i opened the restricted drivers manager and enabled it. then I clicked on the installation. could this be what caused it?
[08:29] <salty-horse> (if so, it should not be possible to do that)
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> ah yes, thats probably it
[08:30] <salty-horse> not allowing the restricted drivers manager to be run (or atleast, to install graphics drivers) while in the livecd mode seems like a good solution
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114295 in alsa-driver (main) "New users added after installation don't have sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114295
[08:35] <salty-horse> Admiral_Chicago, is #ubuntu-kernel the place to discuss this?
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> probably not. I don't know where you would. I'd say file a bug and someone more knowledfeable that me will get you an answer
[08:36] <salty-horse> is there a metapackage for the installation procedure?
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> ubiquity
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't remember the name.
[08:42] <salty-horse> Admiral_Chicago, you're right, but i see no bugs reported there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubiquity/+bugs
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> salty-horse: thats because you're not looking for the ubuntu bugs, let me grab you a link
[08:43] <salty-horse> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i keep crashing on Fx, give me a moment
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> almost there...
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> ah wait, that is the link salty-horse
[08:47] <salty-horse> :D
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl
[08:55] <salty-horse> Admiral_Chicago, reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/114296
[08:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114296 in ubiquity "running restricted-manager before installation can break system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114296 in ubiquity (main) "running restricted-manager before installation can break system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114296
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #114297 in turbokid (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync turbokid (1.0.1-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114297
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114298 in gcc-4.1 (main) "[apport]  g++-4.1 crashed with SIGSEGV in strncmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114298
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #114299 in texlive-base (main) "No kvoptions.sty in TexLive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114299
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114300 in speedcrunch (main) "[apport]  speedcrunch crashed with SIGSEGV in Q3TextParagraph::lineHeightOfChar()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114300
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #114301 in gajim (universe) "Bug in fr.po translation that breaks invitation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114301
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #114302 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem-plugin-viewer crashed with SIGILL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114302
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114303 in Ubuntu "JToolbar Buttons too large in Ubuntu 7.04 when using native look and feel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114303
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114304 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in doPoll()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114304
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #114305 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_foreach()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114305
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #114306 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No sound on Toshiba Laptop P105 S6024 (HDA intel ich7 rev 2)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114306
[10:14] <E2k> hi i have a bug in a kernel module
[10:14] <E2k> anyone here who can help me ?
[10:16] <E2k> if i turn on my udb disk nothing happens and when i turn it off aganin it says OOPS and EIP is at make_class_name+0x35/0xa0
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #114307 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "CD-Drive does not read or write CDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114307
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #114308 in sound-juicer (main) "Filenames contain questionmarks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114308
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #114309 in totem (main) "Change brightness (and other same movie properties) not effect while Rhithmbox is running." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114309
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114310 in Ubuntu "Have to manually restart networking on every reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114310
[10:42] <E2k> thanks for your help :-/
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #114312 in Ubuntu "Lenovo 300n N100 overheats when running 2.6.20-15-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114312
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #114315 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in TaskContainer::popupMenu()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114315
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #114316 in jabberd2 (universe) "[apport]  s2s crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114316
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #114317 in thunderbird (main) "Filter moves message, original folder still indicates new" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114317
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #114318 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114318


[00:32] <brucekomike> I want to know what conditions I need to meet to join the Ubuntu-Studio-Contributors team.
[00:55] <Eickmeyer> Sticking around for a while would be nice...
[00:56] <Eickmeyer> brucekomike: Saw your message about contributing. What do you have in mind?
[00:56] <Eickmeyer> In what ways would you like to contribute?
[01:00] <brucekomike> I'll make an animation about the ubuntu-studio icons.And put the animation into my video whith will post on bilibili.
[01:00] <brucekomike> them help testing or more
[01:01] <brucekomike> then
[01:05] <brucekomike> I'm from china,so that I can recommend Ubuntu-studio in my veido
[01:06] <brucekomike> to spread the culture about ubuntu-studio in china
[01:13] <brucekomike_> sorry about the poor net connection
[01:17] <Eickmeyer> brucekomike_: In order to do that, we're going to need better communication with you, and we can't do that if you keep dropping connection. Promotion is always good, and I think you could work really well with MauroGaspari[m].
[01:18] <Eickmeyer> brucekomike_: A good idea would be to use Matrix, linked from the website. That way you can stay connected, even if you don't have a Matrix client open.
[01:19] <brucekomike_> thanks
[01:43] <MauroGaspari[m]> brucekomike_ hello. Happy to chat with you. I am in your same time zone (taiwan) so communication will be easier
[02:01] <brucekomike_> Would you like to teach me how to use the matrix to connet this channel?
[02:03] <brucekomike_> I've identified the nickname with nickserv
[02:05] <brucekomike> And I did not find the way to join the channel
[02:11] <brucekomike> I'm using konversation now
[02:20] <MauroGaspari[m]> I use element as matrix client. There is a flatpak and appimage. Not sure if there is also a snap or deb.
[02:20] <MauroGaspari[m]> Element is also available on android if you need
[02:25] <brucekomike> For the element on the web browser,  what should i do after identifying the nickname?
[02:32] <MauroGaspari[m]> <brucekomike "For the element on the web brows"> First you need to create an account. Very similar to other chat clients. But remember to note down and store in a safe place all your account details and backup access codes. Because your encryption is in your hands, if you lose access it will be harder to regain it.
[02:33] <MauroGaspari[m]> After you have your account and login, you can look for chat rooms using search function inside of element client
[02:38] <brucekomike> It seems that
[02:38] <brucekomike> I should join the room #freenode_#ubuntustudio:matrix.org
[02:39] <brucekomike> but it does not work
[02:44] <brucekomike> "Failed to join room You are not invited to this room."
[02:54] <MauroGaspari[m]> #ubuntu-studio:matrix.org
[02:54] <MauroGaspari[m]> This is the matrix room
[02:59] <brucediao[m]> emm...
[03:00] <brucekomike[m]> got it
[03:05] <Eickmeyer> Perfect, @brucekomike[m]!
[13:52] <rapid16> Which file manager is default in Ubuntu Studio?
[13:52] <rapid16> Is it nautilus?
[13:53] <rapid16> Nevermind.