[05:11] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:41] <Kilos> hi bduk1 Spekko jabberwocky93
[05:41] <Kilos> lo drussell hows davey
[05:44] <jabberwocky93> good morning Kilos, how'd the meeting go?
[05:44]  * jabberwocky93 only got back at 22:30
[05:44] <Kilos> went well ty
[05:46]  * Squirm pops in
[05:46] <Squirm> hey
[05:46] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[05:47] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Squirm, Kilos
[05:47] <nuvolari> er, oom Kilos, Squirm
[05:47] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[05:47] <nuvolari> and jabberwocky93
[05:48] <Kilos> lol
[05:48]  * Squirm kicks nuvolari
[05:49] <nuvolari> ow
[05:49] <nuvolari> :-/
[05:49]  * nuvolari pulls out Squirm kierie from under him
[05:49] <jabberwocky93> hi nuvolari
[05:50] <Squirm> you called me old :/
[05:50] <Squirm> no offence Kilos :)
[05:51] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[05:51] <Kilos> now now children
[05:51] <jabberwocky93> I see the logs' time stamps are in the GMT time zone
[05:52] <jabberwocky93> hi bduk1
[05:52] <Kilos> ya dunno why that is
[05:55] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[05:55]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[05:55] <Squirm> Maaz: larger
[05:55] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Squirm
[05:55] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[05:55] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[05:55] <Squirm> it'll probably be a setting
[05:56] <Kilos> Maaz largest
[05:56] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Kilos?
[05:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[05:59] <Kilos> Maaz thanks
[05:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay :-)
[06:04] <Spekko> morning morning
[06:10] <not_found> morning all... have a good meeting?
[06:11] <Kilos> hi not_found yes ty
[06:12] <not_found> good to hear :)
[06:14] <not_found> all well in za land uncle Kilos ?
[06:15] <Kilos> yes ty not_found all good here and there?
[06:15] <not_found> always good thanks :)
[06:15] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:16] <Kilos> no man dont say that. sometimes you sicker too same as peeps that eat normal food
[06:17] <not_found> being sick doesn't mean it is going bad does it :p
[06:17] <not_found> just mean I am a little baby
[06:17] <not_found> *means
[06:18] <Kilos> lol
[06:18] <Kilos> you at work?
[06:20] <not_found> yup
[06:20] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :)
[06:40]  * not_found will be back
[06:48] <Private_User> morning people
[06:49] <Kilos> hi Private_User wb
[06:49] <Kilos> have you sorted the coin thing
[06:52] <Private_User> hi Kilos, thanks got your mails but only saw them just now
[06:52] <Private_User> what is this coin thing you speaking about?
[06:52] <Kilos> ah i wondered, because you werent at our meeting
[06:52] <Kilos> join #freenode and ask there for help
[06:53] <Kilos> they will tell you what is causing them to ban you
[06:53] <Private_User> ok cool thanks let me join now
[07:24] <Vince-0> !
[07:24] <Vince-0> back at work whoot
[07:32] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[07:34] <Vince-0> Haai
[08:52] <Kilos> oh my
[08:58] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[08:58] <Kilos> hi Golynx
[08:58] <Golynx> and everyone else
[09:06] <drussell> Kilos: yo!
[09:12] <Private_User> hi Golynx
[10:33] <inetpro> good evening
[10:33] <Kilos> hiya inetpro
[10:35] <Private_User> you mean good afternoon, hi inetpro
[10:35] <Private_User> :D
[10:35] <inetpro> oops, I guess
[10:35] <inetpro> hi Private_User
[10:35] <Kilos> haha
[10:36] <inetpro> feels like the time running away with me again today
[10:36] <Kilos> always, the older you get the faster it runs
[10:39] <Golynx> hi Private_User
[10:39] <Golynx> hi inetpro
[10:40] <Private_User> wb Golynx
[10:41] <Golynx> ty
[10:41] <inetpro> hi Golynx
[10:42] <inetpro> Golynx: so you are using lynx?
[10:42] <Kilos> hes an opera person
[10:43] <inetpro> Kilos: but he's telling us to go lynx
[10:43] <Kilos> lol
[10:43] <Golynx> inetpro: i never used that browser
[10:43] <Kilos> clever
[10:43]  * inetpro loves lynx
[10:43] <Golynx> lynx is my fav animal :)
[10:43] <Golynx> lol
[10:45] <inetpro> used lynx for many years to dynamically dump the corporate online telephone directory to text file each time it was updated in order to use grep to find a user's phone number
[10:47] <inetpro> now you remind me of those days each time I see Golynx
[10:47] <Kilos> hehe
[10:48] <Golynx> ah i see :)
[10:48] <inetpro> had nice aliases like teldiff, teldump and telgrep
[10:48] <inetpro> simple but magic power at the click of a button
[10:49] <inetpro> hmm...
[10:49] <GoGinger> my fav pet name :)
[10:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> man that sounds way olde schoole
[10:50] <inetpro> GoGinger: you don't have to change your nick now man :-)
[10:50] <Kilos> lol
[10:50] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: still beats any other slow browser based solution
[10:51] <GoGinger> inetpro: i dont wana disturb your thought processes lol
[10:52] <inetpro> only problem is that they stopped using the online system and now only use AD
[10:53]  * inetpro should actually write a script to extract the info from AD
[10:53] <inetpro> one day
[10:54] <GoGinger> hmm freenode not adding this nick to user group :/
[11:07] <Golynx> One sperm has 37.5MB of DNA information in it. That means a normal ejaculation represents a data transfer of "1587GB" in about 3 seconds. @MorningLiveSABC lol
[11:11]  * Golynx never knew his thrown away so many millions of harddrives :D
[11:13] <Private_User> lol @ Golynx
[12:06] <tumbleweed> there's a lot of redundancy in that data
[12:10] <inetpro> you guys are out of line
[12:14]  * Golynx goes to sit in the corner for 3 hours
[12:32] <inetpro> wb not_found
[12:32] <not_found> o/ inetpro , thanks :)
[12:41] <not_found> inetpro anyway to mute groups in telegram?
[12:42] <inetpro> click in the top right-hand corner
[12:43] <inetpro> you'll see a profile of the group with the option where you can switch notifications off
[12:43] <not_found> ah cool... not near my phone as I am at work but was wondering because I could hear it chime away last night after I was in bed ;p
[12:43] <not_found> thanks :)
[12:44] <inetpro> in fact you can even set a unique sound for the group
[12:45]  * inetpro starting to like Telegram
[12:45] <inetpro> it's not perfect but I haven't found anything better
[12:46] <inetpro> IRC still remains the best environment for communication in a group
[12:47] <inetpro> Telegram has most definitely lifted the pace of innovation once again
[12:49] <tumbleweed> inetpro: telegram's security isn't significantly better than anything else
[12:49] <inetpro> tumbleweed: I agree
[12:50] <inetpro> privacy is also still a major concern
[12:59] <inetpro> tumbleweed: let's say at this stage I can suggest Telegram as a better, more secure yet still easy to use solution for somebody who has been using whatsapp on a regular basis
[13:00] <not_found> and if everyone you want to communicate decides to switch you will be good to go... else, er... :p
[13:00] <not_found> *communicate with
[13:01] <tumbleweed> I'd consider it more just an "open alternative to whatsapp"
[13:05] <inetpro> I can buy that
[13:06]  * not_found is off again...
[13:14] <inetpro> tumbleweed: but you have to admit there are definite and clear improvements over whatsapp's offering
[13:20] <tumbleweed> probably
[13:20] <tumbleweed> I don't know much about the whatsapp protocol (partly because they like it that way, but it has been well reverse engineered)
[14:38] <Kilos> hi Kirill_Rus
[14:46] <soundsearcher> inetpro, gaan gopu huistoe
[14:46] <soundsearcher> gou ook
[14:47] <soundsearcher> groot boem boems
[14:47] <soundsearcher> haai ek praat man
[14:48] <soundsearcher> ai! die van der merwes
[14:58]  * Golynx returns from the corner
[16:14] <Kilos> hi SCR1845-6357A
[16:14] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[16:15] <SCR1845-6357A> Thank you, Kilos
[16:18] <Golynx> hi SCR1845-6357A
[16:18] <Vince-0> !
[16:19] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[16:19] <Golynx> i should use that for my password someday
[16:19] <Vince-0> haai
[16:19] <Kilos> whew
[16:22] <SCR1845-6357A> hi Golynx and Vince-0 too
[16:23] <Vince-0> surp
[16:23] <Private_User> lol @ Golynx, I will take note of that for someday I might wanna hack you...bwhahahaha
[16:23] <SCR1845-6357A> feel free to do it Golynx lol
[16:24] <Private_User> *wishes he knew how to hack people*
[16:24] <Golynx> ty SCR1845-6357A , it sure looks like a strong one
[16:25] <Golynx> Private_User: you will have to find out which account i use it on :D
[16:26] <Private_User> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[16:26] <Golynx> ya , it aint easy to hack someone, usually takes a human about a million years lol
[16:27] <Private_User> or a few minutes depending in their strength and how big the blade is :p
[16:27] <Golynx> lol
[16:28] <SCR1845-6357A> god and love are the most common passwords, says the movie "hackers"
[16:28] <Vince-0> and 1234
[16:29] <SCR1845-6357A> right
[16:29] <SCR1845-6357A> I never understood the silly idea of mail companies' security question
[16:29] <Kilos> yeah
[16:29] <Private_User> actually there was a ranking on passwords they even had it on the news that the new 1 was changed but I cannot remember which one it was
[16:30] <SCR1845-6357A> so, you may put your mothers name, which quite a lot of can know of
[16:30] <SCR1845-6357A> lot of people*
[16:31] <Vince-0> mother's maiden name
[16:31] <Vince-0> first school, first pet
[16:31] <Vince-0> and you'd need access to the mail account associated
[16:31] <Vince-0> and phone number in the case of 2 factor auth
[16:34] <Vince-0> anywayz - back to work!
[16:36] <Golynx> Sadly there is many websites and programs that still functions on 5 -10 year old technology. It is them that give the I.T security world a bad name
[16:36] <Private_User> actually Vince-0 I have seen many organisations asking these security questions to reset your password especially when you do it online and yet most people who are close to you and sometimes even people who hate you will know these answers
[16:40] <Golynx> Private_User: i agree . Aspecially if you throw open your whole existence on social media
[16:41] <Private_User> lol yeah
[16:45] <Kilos> SCR1845-6357A tell us a bit about yourself
[16:46] <Kilos> like what you do and what os you use etc
[16:46] <Private_User> yeah and how did you find #ubuntu-za
[17:06] <charl_> good evening
[17:06] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[17:06]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[17:10] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[17:16] <SCR1845-6357A> I'm at debian 7, and found this chatroom by random typing
[17:16] <SCR1845-6357A> little else can be said
[17:17] <SCR1845-6357A> I've used ubuntu in the past, but never gone beyond user experience
[17:23] <Private_User> excellent, welcome to #ubuntu-za :D
[17:23] <Private_User> ...wait hang on, thats Kilos line...sorry Kilos
[17:23] <Private_User> hehe
[17:28] <Kilos> wait i catch up quick
[17:29] <Kilos> ah thats good SCR1845-6357A superfly uses debian kde
[17:30] <Kilos> we have all flavour peeps here
[17:30] <Kilos> hi superfly
[17:30] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:31] <SCR1845-6357A> :) you're all so warm
[17:32] <Kilos> this is the friendlish community channel of all
[17:32] <Kilos> we try help anyone with linux problems
[17:33] <Kilos> oh and convert windows peeps to ubuntu as well
[17:33] <Kilos> hehe
[17:33] <SCR1845-6357A> that's excellent, ubuntu is nowadays the first door into linux for most of them
[17:35] <SCR1845-6357A> in regard to last version, I have to say though, that I did not like the idea of the lateral bar as defaut, so last time I had to swich to "fallback" mode
[17:35] <SCR1845-6357A> it looks too tablet-oriented, just like windows 8
[17:36] <Kilos> im  still on 12.04. didnt enjoy all the eye candy on 13.10
[17:36] <Kilos> and also use kubuntu
[17:37] <SCR1845-6357A> is it there a way to install gnome 2?
[17:37] <Kilos> kde takes some getting used to but great once you understand the basics
[17:37] <Kilos> i think the only way is to install mate
[17:37] <charl_> gnome classic ?
[17:37] <Kilos> that still uses gnome2 i think
[17:37] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: glad to have you here but what about picking a more normal nickname ? :)
[17:37] <SCR1845-6357A> that's it charl
[17:39] <Kilos> hi charl_
[17:39] <SCR1845-6357A> i'll probably get tired of it someday anyway
[17:39] <Private_User> charl_: you afraid people gonna find out that that's your current password...LOL
[17:39] <Kilos> was eating didnt see you come in
[17:40] <charl_> hi Kilos :)
[17:40] <charl_> Private_User: lol !!
[17:40] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: intersting ... i'm not going to ask how you came up with it then :)
[17:41] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: you from spain ?
[17:41] <SCR1845-6357A> hehe good eye charl_ !
[17:42] <charl_> never been to spain myself but i was plannig on going to valencia sometime this spring
[17:43] <charl_> to the Museu de les Ciències Príncipe Felipe
[17:43] <SCR1845-6357A> and now you're living in s africa?
[17:43] <charl_> brb
[17:45] <soundsearcher> na he is in the netherlands somewhere
[18:07] <Kilos> hey guys what is the command to fix broken packages again please
[18:07] <Kilos> ive told ian sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:08] <Kilos> but there is an apt one too i think with --fix-broken at the end
[18:08] <Kilos> hi smile
[18:08] <charl_> hi smile
[18:08] <Kilos> charl_ answer?
[18:09] <Kilos> apt-get install --fix-broken
[18:09] <charl_> dpkg-reconfigure ?
[18:09] <charl_> yeah -f for mising dependencies
[18:09] <Kilos> i have it saved somewhere but when you need something its always hidden
[18:09] <charl_> on apt-get
[18:09] <Kilos> full command please
[18:10] <charl_> apt-get -f
[18:10] <Kilos> he has kde running with lotsa broken packages
[18:10] <charl_> or no sorry apt-get install -f
[18:10] <Kilos> aha ty
[18:11] <charl_> sorry i was eating with one hand so was typing with the other
[18:11] <Kilos> np
[18:11] <Kilos> ty
[18:11] <charl_> SCR1845-6357A: yes as kilos pointed out i live in NL
[18:13] <charl_> and smile lives in BE, our southern neighbours :)
[18:38] <charl_> have a good evening all
[19:27] <Vince-0> !
[19:28] <Kilos> !
[19:39] <inetpro> hmm
[20:29] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:29] <Kilos> you forgot your 3 dots
[20:29] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:34] <inetpro> .
[20:35] <inetpro> + ..---
[20:37] <plustwo> o/
[20:37] <inetpro> lol
[20:38]  * plustwo just missed him
[20:38] <inetpro> hi plustwo
[20:38] <plustwo> io
[20:38] <inetpro> how are you this evening?
[20:39] <plustwo> very good thanks inetpro, how do you do?
[20:39] <inetpro> wat maak jy hierdie tyd van die aand op die strand?
[20:40] <plustwo> learning vSphere
[20:40] <inetpro> cool
[20:41] <plustwo> a bit hectic topic
[20:41] <inetpro> klink interessant
[20:41] <plustwo> CBT nuggets and ebook "Mastering vSphere 5"
[20:41] <inetpro> yikes!
[20:43]  * plustwo crawls to bed. tired.
[20:43] <plustwo> nite inetpro
[20:44] <inetpro> good idea
[20:44] <inetpro> good night


[10:35] <sborovkov> hello, anyone can tell me what's the best way to do apt upgrade on classic, upgrading everything but exclude kernel? (last kernel does not start on rpi3)
[17:04] <topi`> it seems that the basic Ubuntu Core tools (like snapd) depend on libgolang (GO runtime), why is this?
[17:35] <sborovkov> topi`: I guess that's because snapd is written in Go
[19:23] <axisys> is it possible to install snap on centos 6 ?
[20:01] <Son_Goku> axisys: no
[20:02] <Son_Goku> snappy leverages a lot of modern components, so the earliest it could go is CentOS 7
[20:03] <axisys> Son_Goku: I did not see anything about centos 7 either in the main page
[20:03] <Son_Goku> that's because the work to get snappy working on CentOS 7 hasn't been started
[20:04] <axisys> Son_Goku: ah
[20:04] <axisys> Son_Goku: thanks
[20:04] <Son_Goku> np
[20:58] <axisys> I just installed snappy on ubuntu xenial and then installed an app.. where does not log go?
[21:06] <laser> hi sorry to bother all of you but i have a small question abut snapcraft
[21:07] <laser> how can i tell snapcraft to run a .sh file before make? i know i have to user the after command but how do i make snapcraftrun the .sh file?
[23:43] <Frigid_Cryotank> I've been handed an Intel Joule 570x and want to install Ubunto Developer onto it.  I've gotten the img file written to a thumb drive.. the only step I'm stuck on is flashing the 570x BIOS up to rev 131.
[23:43] <Frigid_Cryotank> I don't have a 64-bit windowsbox to run Intel's flash software.
[23:46] <Frigid_Cryotank> Can someone point me to a 32-bit tool for DnX updating the BIOS on this thing?  Or is there a tool that will run under Ubuntu x86_64 that'll "talk" to the 570x for updating the BIOS?


[00:10] <agilesdesign> Has anyone got XDMCP to work?
[08:12] <logy> hi ppl, I rly like gnome, like too much and i want to stay with it. I am newer at linux and i prefer using ubuntu (debian/ubuntu based distros), because its easy to install, easy to fix minor bugs, the community is big and i prefer to use apt-get then any other. But ubuntu-gnome is rly buggy and it is slow. It is the slowest distro on my laptop. I tried fedora because of gnome, but i am not redy for that distro. Does anyone have an
[12:46] <LinDol> hi all :) good evening


[11:34] <joejaxx> cjwatson_: do you have a minute?
[11:39] <cjwatson_> joejaxx: from #debian-boot, I suspect you built the CD in such a way as to leave out the Task fields in the Packages file. Read over the Packages files very carefully and compare them with those on a standard Ubuntu CD.
[11:39] <joejaxx> ok
[11:39] <cjwatson_> FWIW, I really don't want #debian-boot to get the impression that we're directing folks to them for support of Ubuntu
[11:40] <joejaxx> yeah that is why i did not want to mention ubuntu specifically
[11:40] <cjwatson> I'm largely on good terms with the other developers there and would like to remain so
[11:40] <joejaxx> alright
[11:40] <joejaxx> sorry about that
[11:45] <joejaxx> cjwatson: is there a file which lists all the tasks for each package? (sort of like how the indices state priority and section)
[11:47] <cjwatson> it's in the Packages file
[11:47] <cjwatson> oh you mean the source for that?
[11:47] <joejaxx> yeah
[11:47] <cjwatson> cdimage gets germinate to work it out on the fly from the seeds
[11:47] <joejaxx> is it just the seeds? i guess i could grep that
[11:47] <joejaxx> yeah
[11:47] <cjwatson> you don't want to just grep it - you need to use germinate
[11:48] <cjwatson> the ubuntu-minimal task is the dependency-expanded version of the minimal seed
[11:48] <joejaxx> ok
[11:48] <cjwatson> the ubuntu-standard task is the dependency-expanded version of the standard seed, excluding those packages already in minimal
[11:48] <cjwatson> and so on
[11:48] <cjwatson> doing that by hand would involve reinventing germinate :)
[11:48] <joejaxx> :P :)
[11:49] <cjwatson> there's code in cdimage that does the glue - IIRC you're already using cdimage, so you should be able to debug it into existence by figuring out why it's not working
[11:49] <cjwatson> it's supposed to spit stuff out into a scratch tasks/ directory somewhere or other
[11:49] <cjwatson> run-germinate and germinate-to-tasks are the programs to start with
[11:50] <joejaxx> ok
[11:51] <joejaxx> thanks i will try that
[12:03] <_MMA_> joejaxx: You get an answer yet?


[07:24] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:28] <plustwo> hi Kilos & others
[07:28] <Kilos> hi plustwo
[07:28] <plustwo> o/
[07:28] <Squirm> morning
[07:28] <Kilos> you well?
[07:29] <Kilos> yo Squirm
[07:29] <plustwo> Kilos: yep, never been this better. :)
[07:29] <plustwo> how are you doing?
[07:29] <Kilos> hehe that sounds good
[07:30] <Kilos> ok ty
[07:30] <superfly> morning Kilos
[07:32] <Kilos> can one of you please look here and find me the email addy
[07:32] <Kilos> http://www.tshwane.gov.za/Services/Electricity/Pages/default.aspx
[07:34] <Kilos> i dont have data to browse
[07:35] <superfly> Kilos: no e-mail address on there
[07:35] <superfly> Kilos: you can try<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:36] <Kilos> eish ty superfly . power cutting here daily up to 5 times a day
[07:36] <Kilos> great ty superfly i will mail them and see if i can rock the boat a bit
[07:37] <Kilos> that sounds like the one they just keep passing the buck till it gets to someone that has the energy to do something
[07:56] <Kilos> bbl have a good day guys
[09:27] <AlphaGuyy> Mornin
[10:42] <zeref> YawwnN
[10:45] <AlphaGuyy> Zzzzz
[11:58] <Squirm> hello
[11:58]  * Squirm prods nuvolari
[12:25] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos it seems to be happening in my area as well lately, so you're not the only one
[12:25] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[14:24] <zeref> hmmmmm
[14:28] <inetpro> zeref: hmmmmm?
[15:25] <Alphaguyy> ubuntu-za dead dead
[15:26]  * nlsthzn lurks in the shadows
[15:27]  * Alphaguyy aims his Pistol
[15:27] <nlsthzn> :(
[15:28] <Alphaguyy> come out
[15:28] <nlsthzn> ... while you aim at me!?
[15:28] <Alphaguyy> so we can see you
[15:30] <Alphaguyy> it's quiet here compared to #ubuntu
[15:30] <nlsthzn> it's nice
[15:31] <Alphaguyy> it's very laid back
[15:31] <Alphaguyy> typical Za
[15:33] <nlsthzn> it can get hectic in here...
[15:34] <Alphaguyy> yeah i guess so
[15:35]  * Alphaguyy fires some shots
[16:03] <superfly> Some of us have work to do during business hours...
[16:19] <Kerbero> anybody experiencing problems with za.archive.ubuntu.com?
[16:19] <Kerbero> seems like it is pointing to the wrong IP
[16:22] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn and others
[16:23] <Alphaguyy> hi
[16:24] <Kilos> hi Alphaguyy howzit
[16:24] <Alphaguyy> good u
[16:24] <Kilos> good too ty
[16:24] <Alphaguyy> :)
[16:25] <Kilos> so you going to the varsity to get cds burned?
[16:25] <Alphaguyy> wich one exactly
[16:26] <Kilos> hmm
[16:26] <Kilos> i think all of them
[16:26] <Kilos> if not for the data use we could google them
[16:27] <Alphaguyy> limited to irc
[16:27] <Alphaguyy> il get it when its released
[16:27] <Alphaguyy> 12.04
[16:27] <Kilos> ya me to and some pidgin time
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> fly like a pidgin cluck like a chikn
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <nlsthzn> hi superfly , Kilos etc...
[16:28] <Kilos> dont you know pidgin?
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> i dont know how im connected tho
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> im using pidgin on 9.04
[16:28] <Alphaguyy> connect via n73 usb n 45cents
[16:29] <Kilos> i use xchat
[16:29] <Kilos> whats a n73?
[16:29] <Alphaguyy> 9.04 comes in handy for pc.s that dont wana boot up
[16:29] <Alphaguyy> nokian mobile phone
[16:30] <Kilos> ha ha ha yeah i fix all boot probs with ubntu
[16:30] <Alphaguyy> watch hw i time out
[16:30] <Kilos> ah
[16:30] <Kilos> my son also uses boot-repair in ubuntu to fix drives at his work
[16:31] <Alphaguyy> boot repair?
[16:31] <Kilos> its a tool in ubuntu
[16:31] <Kilos> boot-repair
[16:32] <Alphaguyy> hmm
[16:32] <Alphaguyy> does it repair windows boot
[16:33] <Kilos> it does mbr and boot sector
[16:33] <Kilos> but there are ways with windows to repair mbr and boot sector from the cd as well
[16:33] <Alphaguyy> hmm
[16:34] <Kilos> with xp you boot to command prompt
[16:34] <Alphaguyy> this guys pc has a virus i suspect coz once i log in loads settings and then nothing
[16:35] <Kilos> then type in /fixmbr then /fixboot
[16:35] <Alphaguyy> i usn live cd to browse the drive only for backup so i can do fresh install
[16:35] <Kilos> they can be repaired normally
[16:36] <Kilos> and run avast antivirus
[16:36] <Kilos> half of what i hated with windows was all the formatting and new installs needed
[16:37] <Kilos> only use ubuntu now
[16:37] <Alphaguyy> yeah i know
[16:38] <Alphaguyy> windows faults brings the dollars
[16:38] <Kilos> yeah
[16:39] <nlsthzn> looking at how much money red hat makes linux faults can do the same
[16:40] <Alphaguyy> im off for now
[16:40] <Alphaguyy> thanx kilos
[16:40] <Kilos> cheers Alphaguyy
[16:45] <Kilos> all good there nlsthzn
[16:45] <Kilos> ?
[16:46] <nlsthzn> aan hoy bek hou uncle Kilos
[16:46] <nlsthzn> *hou
[16:46] <Kilos> lol
[16:46] <nlsthzn> ... and there in Za land?
[16:46] <Kilos> dont forget moed hou
[16:46] <Kilos> getting cold again
[16:46] <Kilos> sdigh
[16:46] <Kilos> sigh too
[16:46] <nlsthzn> getting hot here :'(
[16:47] <Kilos> wanna swop
[16:47] <Kilos> hehe
[16:48] <nlsthzn> :) to be honest, if I have to be outside a lot in the coming months I would
[16:48] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[16:51] <Kilos> bbl
[18:03] <nicom> hi
[18:12] <nlsthzn> hi
[18:28] <Kilos> lo superfly and others
[18:28] <Kilos> hi nicom
[18:29] <Kilos> inetpro, dis sleg van hulle ne
[18:29] <nicom> hi kilos
[18:30] <Kilos> nlsthzn, why you up so late?
[18:30] <nlsthzn> two guess uncle Kilos
[18:30] <nlsthzn> *guesses
[18:30] <Kilos> work?
[18:30] <nlsthzn> correct
[18:31] <nlsthzn> night shift
[18:31] <Kilos> eish
[18:31] <nicom> I cant get in from xchat it bannes me every time
[18:31] <Kilos> spose if you dont work you dont eat hey
[18:31] <nicom> is there a secret to that?
[18:31] <Kilos> nicom, what seems to be the prob
[18:32] <Kilos> you have to set it up
[18:32] <nicom> i am on web page
[18:32] <nicom> xchat no work
[18:32] <Kilos> do you have xchat installed nicom ?
[18:32] <nicom> how
[18:32] <nicom> yes
[18:32] <Kilos> you are on ubuntu hey?
[18:32] <nicom> yes 12:04
[18:33] <Kilos> ok lets do it step for step
[18:33] <Kilos> i gotta open and look what to do
[18:33] <Banlam> nicom, what is the exact message you get when you try connect?
[18:33] <Kilos> ok. the first little window you open
[18:33] <nicom> 1 min
[18:34] <nicom> * Closing Link: iburst-41-213-52-59.iburst.co.za (*** Banned )
[18:34] <nicom> ok
[18:34] <Banlam> and that's when you try connect to the server
[18:34] <Kilos> scroll to freenode
[18:34] <Banlam> not to achannel?
[18:34] <Kilos> yip
[18:35] <Kilos> tick on freenode and then tick edit on the right
[18:35] <nicom> * Connected. Now logging in... * *** Looking up your hostname... * *** Checking Ident * *** Found your hostname * *** No Ident response * You are banned from this server- Your host is an open proxy (HTTP CONNECT (Mikrotik-style) (8080)).  Email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>when corrected. (2012/4/19 19.52) * Closing Link: iburst-41-213-52-59.iburst.co.za (*** Banned ) * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
[18:36] <Kilos> oh im running ahead sorry
[18:36] <nicom> it starts automatically
[18:36] <nicom> freenode is selected
[18:36] <Kilos> you gotta make it open to that first window first
[18:36] <nlsthzn> seems like a banned account
[18:37] <Banlam> is this relavent: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14845/unable-to-connect-to-freenode-because-of-open-proxy
[18:37] <Kilos> it mustnt start auto till you have it set up
[18:37] <Kilos> ah could be Banlam
[18:38] <nicom> how do I unstart it
[18:39] <Kilos> most likely need to tell it to go irc.freenode.net/8001
[18:39] <nicom> ok what password do you use?
[18:39] <Kilos> you need to uninstall and also remove the settings etc in home
[18:40] <nicom> I got it to not start automatically
[18:40] <Kilos> you register your nic and set password at irc
[18:40] <Kilos> right
[18:40] <nicom> now edit it
[18:40] <Kilos> then tick freenode once
[18:40] <Kilos> then edit
[18:41] <Kilos> you too fast for me
[18:41] <nicom> how register
[18:41] <nicom> how register ? url ?
[18:41] <Banlam> you have to be connected to the server
[18:41] <Banlam> via an irc client
[18:41] <Banlam> to register an account
[18:41] <Banlam> but that's not necessary
[18:41] <Banlam> did you have a look at that link I jsut posted?
[18:42] <Banlam> that may be your problem
[18:42] <Kilos> but you should get here with xchat before you even register
[18:42] <nicom> connecting to freenode banns me
[18:43] <Kilos> Banlam, is it a 12.04 prob you think?
[18:43] <Banlam> err.. couldn't say
[18:43] <nicom> connecting to freenode baned me
[18:43] <Banlam> the post is from nov 2010...
[18:43] <Banlam> so
[18:43] <Kilos> dont just connect
[18:44] <nicom> looking
[18:44] <Kilos> what have you got in the channel box
[18:44] <nicom> I am using miktotik
[18:44] <nicom> I am using miktotik router
[18:44] <Kilos> and untick the connect automatically tick box
[18:44] <Kerbero> *mikrotik?\
[18:44] <Banlam> nicom, what client are you currently using?
[18:44] <nicom> done
[18:45] <Banlam> nicom, can you open a terminal, and type the following "  rpm -q squid   " and tell me what output you get?
[18:46] <nicom> xchat
[18:47] <Banlam> nicom, no, what i mean is how are you chatting to us now, if you can't get xchat to connect to freenode?
[18:47] <Kilos> in the top block do you see irc.freenode.net/8001
[18:47] <nicom> The program 'rpm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install rpm
[18:47] <Banlam> nicom, ok, nvrmdn
[18:48] <nicom> i am using the web page form
[18:48] <Banlam> nicom, ok
[18:48] <nicom> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za
[18:49] <Banlam> gtg, good luck, hope Kilos can help
[18:49] <Kilos> toods Banlam
[18:49] <Kilos> ok nicom you got the first window open still/
[18:49] <Kilos> ?
[18:49] <nicom> did you need something special to work IRC?
[18:50] <nicom> did you need something special to work IRC? settings , password
[18:50] <Kilos> no xchat goes straight in if setup right
[18:50] <Kilos> nope i came on here before i registered anything
[18:50] <nicom> ok I may need to open port 8081
[18:50] <nicom> ok I may need to open port 8081 in mikrotik
[18:50] <Kilos> you can add the passwords later once you got this working
[18:51] <nicom> but how did it respond to me?
[18:52] <Kilos> i dunno what went wrong there. need a clever guy to figure that out
[18:52] <nlsthzn> my two cents worth... it isn't a ports issue because the client is able to connect to the server... the error account banned needs some investigating and fixing... carry on...
[18:52] <nicom> ok i will uninstall it and try again
[18:52] <Kilos> dont forget to remove any xchat files in home
[18:52] <Kilos> or it will keep doing the same thing
[18:53] <Kilos> nlsthzn, im dom with the ports bit. do we use different ports?
[18:53] <Kilos> mine shows 8001
[18:54] <nlsthzn> it isn't a ports issue but I use 6667
[18:54] <Kilos> oh my
[18:55] <Kilos> nicom, what else do you see in the top servers for freenode block?
[18:56] <Kilos> nlsthzn, what decides what port is used
[18:56] <Kilos> for interests sake
[18:57] <nlsthzn> well for me port 8001 isn't open (ISP blocked it I think)... but the IRC server decides what ports it will use... for freenode it is 8001 and 6667 AFAIK
[18:57] <Kilos> it should be done automatically hey?
[18:57] <nicom> I uninstalled it and its still there
[18:58] <nlsthzn> did you guys check the link that Banlam_ posted earlier?
[18:58] <nicom> I get the option to install but its there
[18:58] <Kilos> nicom, did you remove the xchat folder in home?
[18:58] <Kilos> nicom, do you have aptitude installed?
[18:58] <nicom> now its removing
[19:00] <nicom> aptitude ?
[19:00] <Kilos> like apt-get but better
[19:00] <nlsthzn> not
[19:00] <nicom> dont know doe ubuntu come with it
[19:00] <nlsthzn> :p
[19:01] <nicom> ok
[19:01] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[19:01] <nicom> is it needed?
[19:01] <Kilos> it works great for installing and uninstalling etc
[19:02] <Kilos> and more user friendly
[19:02] <nicom> I ma gettint the same problem
[19:03] <nicom> I re-installed
[19:03] <nicom> should i try xchant gnome
[19:03] <Kilos> have you got aptitude now
[19:03] <Kilos> the gnome one sucks imo
[19:04] <Kilos> you havent got rif of the config files i think
[19:04] <Kilos> *rid
[19:04] <nicom> adding it
[19:04] <nlsthzn> problem is with using open proxy and freenode not accepting it... nothing wrong with xchat
[19:04] <Kilos> ah can you help nlsthzn ?
[19:04] <nicom> is apttude a gui?
[19:05] <Kilos> no its command line/terminal
[19:05] <nicom>  nlsrn?
[19:06] <nlsthzn> nicom: are you running any type of proxy software?
[19:06] <nicom> I like GUI as my memory is weak too many commands to remember
[19:07] <nicom> no I have a mikrotik router connected to my  iBurst via PPPOE
[19:07] <Kilos> yeah but at times cli works better methinks
[19:08] <nlsthzn> it seems the problem is with the router....
[19:08] <nicom> cli ?
[19:08] <Kilos> command line interface
[19:08] <Kilos> terminal
[19:08] <nicom> ok I will google it
[19:09] <Kilos> nicom, one sec first
[19:09] <Kilos> when you removed xchat did you remove the folder in home before installing again
[19:09] <nlsthzn> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Misc/Q_27500503.html seems to have the answer but I am not subscribed there so it won't show it to me :/
[19:10] <nlsthzn> ... however seeing as you all seem hell bent on re-installing a working client I will leave you to it ;)
[19:10] <nicom> no
[19:10] <nicom> whick folder
[19:10] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you help i know niks about routers
[19:10] <Kilos> in your home directory
[19:11] <Kilos> scroll down you will see something with xchat
[19:11] <Kilos> maybe 2xchat
[19:11] <Kilos> i go see
[19:11] <nlsthzn> Kilos: I don't either in this case... but that is where the issue is
[19:12] <nlsthzn> might want to try #freenode
[19:12] <Kilos> .xchat2 its called
[19:12] <Kilos> xchat doesnt often give issues
[19:13] <Kilos> nlsthzn, is 12.04 same as maverick when it comes to home?
[19:14] <nlsthzn> yup
[19:14] <Kilos> whew
[19:14] <nlsthzn> still gnome... even if it is a new one
[19:14] <Kilos> was worried there for a bit
[19:14] <nlsthzn> :)
[19:14] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <nicom> I will ask my coleague quintin beukes he kknows ubuntu and mikrotik I might fotgut somthin
[19:15] <nicom> thanks all for help
[19:15] <Kilos> nicom, lets work through it slowly
[19:16] <nicom> I hope to see some of U at ubuttu launch party pretoris
[19:16] <nicom> I hope to see some of U at ubuttu launch party pretoria
[19:16] <nicom> ok kilos
[19:17] <Kilos> have you found the folder in home
[19:17] <nicom> looking
[19:17] <nicom> oh in home
[19:17] <Kilos> yeah
[19:18] <Kerbero> nicom: do you have winbox?
[19:18] <Kilos> some times you have to tell it to show hidden folders
[19:18] <inetpro> nicom: Your host is an open proxy
[19:18] <inetpro> that is the problem
[19:18] <Kilos> hi inetpro you are just in time
[19:18] <inetpro> looks to me like a microtik misconfiguration
[19:19] <Kerbero> the webproxy on the mikrotik is just running
[19:19] <Kerbero> and not denying external ip's
[19:19] <nicom> sudo rm .chat2
[19:19] <inetpro> s/microtik/mikrotik/
[19:19] <nicom> ? ok to
[19:20] <Kilos> sec nicom here what inetpro and Kerbero say
[19:20] <Kilos> inetpro, can you help him sort it
[19:20] <Kilos> ?
[19:20] <nicom> I seem to remembet I had to open port 8080
[19:20] <nicom> maybe i need 8001
[19:21] <Kerbero> no
[19:21] <nicom> I worked irc before with older ubunu
[19:21] <inetpro> Make sure that your proxy is NOT a Open Proxy
[19:21] <Kerbero> there is absolutely no reason to open ports for outgoing connections
[19:21] <Kerbero> nicom: Winbox
[19:22] <inetpro> eg: Your host is an open proxy (HTTP CONNECT (Mikrotik-style) (8080))
[19:22] <inetpro> oops
[19:22] <inetpro> eg: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/How_to_Block_Websites_%26_Stop_Downloading_Using_Proxy
[19:22] <nicom> I dont set proxy server I have raw internet via firewl in mikrotik
[19:22] <Kerbero> ai
[19:22] <inetpro> I don't know Mikrotik stuff so can't realy help
[19:22] <Kerbero> ek kan nie mense help as hulle nie wil luister nie
[19:23] <inetpro> but you certainly don't want an open proxy
[19:23] <nicom> hoe
[19:23] <Kerbero> ek ken mikrotik redelik goed, maar as hy nie eers weet wat winbox is nie is daar nie veel hoop nie
[19:23] <inetpro> it will be exploited!
[19:23] <Kilos> patience Kerbero we were all chatting together
[19:23] <Kilos> its kinda stressfull at times
[19:24] <Kerbero> nicom: how do you configure you router?
[19:24] <nicom> I need my windows laptop to winbox
[19:24] <nicom> this is ubuntu
[19:24] <Kerbero> you can do it via wine too
[19:24] <Kerbero> but ok
[19:24] <Kerbero> do you have your windows laptop at hand?
[19:25] <nicom> I did it a year ago
[19:25] <Kerbero> hmm
[19:25] <Kerbero> let's see
[19:25] <nicom> from my windows  laptop  I had a lot of problems and sent files to mikrotik
[19:25] <Kerbero> you do know the login details of your router?
[19:26] <nicom> they sent me commands to do
[19:26] <inetpro> What is an open proxy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_proxy
[19:26] <Kerbero> nicom: ok i'll try the most common one quickly
[19:26] <Kerbero> in a terminal type:
[19:27] <Kerbero> telnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:27] <nicom> I used my windows compouter
[19:27] <nlsthzn> thanks to inetpro and Kerbero for coming to the rescue with their 1337 skills
[19:27] <Kerbero> does anything happen?
[19:27] <nicom> my network is <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:27] <Kerbero> ok use that ip then
[19:27]  * Kilos agrees with nlsthzn
[19:27] <nicom> let me tryu
[19:27] <inetpro> heh
[19:28] <Kilos> horses for courses
[19:30] <inetpro> Running an open proxy is a high risk for the server operator; providing an anonymous proxy server can cause real legal troubles to the owner.
[19:30] <nicom> I cant remember paswd
[19:30] <Kerbero> blank
[19:30] <inetpro> Such services are frequently used to break into foreign computer systems...
[19:31] <inetpro> etc, etc,
[19:31] <nicom> I feel guilty I have wasted your time
[19:31] <nicom> I will shut down this laptop
[19:31] <nicom> opem windows laptop and setup mikrotik
[19:31] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:31] <Kerbero> if you do manage to log in
[19:31] <inetpro> nicom: don't feel guilty
[19:32] <nicom> what port to open ?
[19:32] <Kerbero> no
[19:32] <Kilos> no nicom fix it and listen to inetpro and Kerbero
[19:32] <inetpro> we've all been there
[19:32] <Kerbero> go to the ip in your browser
[19:32] <Kerbero> and click on download winbox
[19:32] <Kilos> they will steer you right
[19:32] <Kerbero> then log in with winbox
[19:32] <Kerbero> then
[19:32] <Kerbero> write this down
[19:32] <inetpro> just don't expect to learn everything in one day
[19:32] <nicom> i cant log in kant rememeber passwwowrd
[19:33] <nicom> ok
[19:33] <Kerbero> go to "IP" in the menu
[19:33] <Kerbero> then "Web Proxy"
[19:33] <inetpro> and don't be afraid to make mistakes, see it as a lesson
[19:33] <Kerbero> click on "Web Proxy Settings"
[19:33] <Kerbero> and deselect "enabled"
[19:33] <Kerbero> if stuff breaks, just go and enable it again
[19:34] <Kerbero> if you really can't remember the password, you will need to reset the router
[19:34] <Kerbero> and set everyting up again
[19:34] <nicom> ok will do unenambled prodxy
[19:34] <Kerbero> good luck
[19:34] <nicom> thanks
[19:34] <nicom> ok no I swop machines
[19:34] <nicom> thanks for help
[19:35] <Kilos> nicom, is xchat not working on win and ubuntu?
[19:35] <Kilos> 2 machines?
[19:35] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[19:36] <nicom> Iits license expired on windows
[19:36] <Kilos> what licence
[19:36] <inetpro> Kilos: let him just fix one thing at a time, I think it is more important to get the open proxy sorted first
[19:36] <nicom> ok see U later
[19:36] <Kilos> ya inetpro
[19:36] <inetpro> nicom: you're welcome
[19:37] <nicom> do I ask iBurst to open the prooxy?
[19:37] <nicom> ok C U later
[19:38] <inetpro> eish! Hope he comes right.
[19:38] <Kilos> shame, i think he is getting flustered
[19:38] <inetpro> I don't know how he uses mikrotik with iburst
[19:38] <Kilos> sorry if i interfered
[19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: np
[19:38] <Kilos> i dont even know what mikrotik is
[19:39] <Kerbero> i guess the mikrotik is his NAT
[19:40] <magespawn> Howdy all
[19:40] <nlsthzn> mikrotik router
[19:41] <inetpro> as far as I'm aware mikrotik devices are typically used for big wireless networks
[19:41] <Kerbero> generally yes
[19:41] <Kerbero> but routerOS is quite good for non-wireless stuff too
[19:41] <inetpro> ok
[19:41] <Kerbero> mikrotik is top of the range consumer class
[19:41] <inetpro> cool
[19:42] <Kerbero> i put cisco right above it
[19:42] <Kerbero> well
[19:42] <Kerbero> the cheapest ciscos
[19:45]  * inetpro wonders why they built it so that you can only administer with a windows technology (winbox)
[19:45] <Kerbero> well
[19:45] <Kerbero> as i said it works perfectly in wine
[19:45] <nlsthzn> at least my cisco only needs a broweser
[19:46] <Kerbero> and it is only a gui for exactly what one can do via telnet/ssh
[19:46] <Kerbero> o0
[19:46] <Kerbero> nlsthzn: that is not a good thing
[19:46] <inetpro> Kerbero: true, I can't say I've never tried it
[19:46] <Kerbero> *not necessarily
[19:46] <inetpro> but they should build a gui linux client
[19:46] <nlsthzn> not sure about good but it is easy
[19:47] <Kerbero> linux users would just use the cli
[19:47] <Kerbero> as it is easier to script and put the settings on 100's of routers
[19:47] <inetpro> as much as I hate to say this, sometimes a gui can be better
[19:47] <Kerbero> yes
[19:48] <magespawn> Easier for noobs too
[19:48] <Kerbero> i do configure my mikrotik's with the gui
[19:48] <nlsthzn> \o/
[19:48] <inetpro> I have seen the winbox interface and it seems fairly easy to use, and effective on top of that
[19:48] <Kerbero> i normally say that if there is a routing rule you can think of, routeros(mikrotik) can do it
[19:49] <Kerbero> :P
[19:49] <Kerbero> i have done some routing on mine that is impossible with iptables
[19:49] <inetpro> Kerbero: ahh, I guess the scripting solution answers the question
[19:49] <Kerbero> anyway, enough of mikrotik
[19:50] <Kerbero> just remember to buy mikrotik for all your wifi :P
[19:50] <inetpro> :-)
[19:50] <Kilos> hehe
[19:50] <Kerbero> the entire ctwug and ptwug runs on them afaik
[19:50] <Kilos> thanks for coming in to help guys
[19:51] <inetpro> Kerbero: so what else do you have up your sleeves this evening if you don't want to talk about mikrotik?
[19:51] <Kerbero> i'm tired of sitting in front of my computer
[19:51] <inetpro> ahh
[19:51] <inetpro> +1
[19:52] <Kilos> bedtime for ballies
[19:52] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:52] <inetpro> Kilos: good night
[19:52] <magespawn> Night Kilos
[19:53] <Kerbero> night
[21:50] <magespawn> Night all
[22:32] <zeref> anybody using 12.04?
[22:33] <nlsthzn> a little
[22:33] <nlsthzn> have tested a thing or two in it
[23:39] <zeref> ffs


[02:11] <Mxzklc> hello everyone, I'd need some help with dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 on a pc with aptio bios (supposed to be an efi), i'm fairly new to dualbootin (only ever used linux on my pc since 2007 lol) only thing i know is that since 9.10 it's a pain to do due to grub2 and id like to avoid having to "bootrec /fixboot" everytime i need windows
[04:09] <captain_> hey guys what would be the best thing to use with 10.10 for remote desktoping
[04:12] <captain_> damn did i miss everyone?
[04:15] <Vegas_HP> hey guys what would be the best thing to use with 10.10 for remote desktoping
[04:34] <Unit193> !vnc | Vegas_HP
[05:54] <Ant13> hello everyone, I'd like to have some help dualbooting windows 7 and xubuntu
[05:54] <Logan_> !dualboot | Ant13
[05:55] <Ant13> Logan_ : did not work that way, windows just wont start, will go to windows logo show me its loading then reboot my pc
[16:00] <xubuntu024> hello, world
[16:00] <knome> hello
[17:33] <r0me0> hola a todos
[17:34] <r0me0> quiero que alguien me ayude con algo
[17:34] <charlie-tca> English please?
[17:34] <r0me0> sorry
[17:34] <charlie-tca> !spanish
[17:35] <r0me0> i down xubuntu 10.10 but no booting this cd
[17:54] <montcalm> just a hint to those maintaining the xubuntu download page - I downloaded the iso for xubuntu 10.10 installed it and realised that it is in fact a 9.10 version...
[18:01] <charlie-tca> I would like to know where that was downloaded from, since http://xubuntu.org/get for USA links to 10.10 only
[18:02] <charlie-tca> and so do the rest of the links.
[19:34] <ankit> hello all
[19:36] <ankit> I just installed xubuntu desktop on my Ubuntu. I am facing one problem in xubuntu that it didn't show any of other window drives
[19:36] <ankit> Ubuntu shows that fine
[19:36] <ankit> Any suggestions
[19:36] <charlie-tca> gigolo
[19:37] <ankit> I am new to Linux plz explain in some detail
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Applications menu, system, gigolo
[19:38] <WinCamXP> hi
[19:38] <ankit> hmmm thanks bro at first it shows error than shows drive mounted...now its working correctly
[19:38] <ankit> thanks for the help
[19:38] <WinCamXP> anybody know if xubuntu works on this comp
[19:38] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:39] <WinCamXP> Toshiba Satellite 1115-S103
[19:39] <charlie-tca> Download the desktop cd and run a "try this without installing" and find out?
[19:40] <WinCamXP> I want to now if the Toshiba Satellite 1115-S103 can run Xubuntu and will it have the drivers for a Linksys wireless network card, I think it's USB
[19:40] <WinCamXP> I don't have much info
[19:40] <WinCamXP> My grandparents have the computer and they don't know much about it
[19:40] <charlie-tca> WinCamXP: Then download the cd, burn it to cd, and try it
[19:40] <WinCamXP> K
[19:40] <charlie-tca> You do not have to install, just use the try option, do not install first
[19:41] <WinCamXP> I know this isn't the Windows support, but would a fresh install of XP Home work after updating with all the drivers?
[19:41] <charlie-tca> You would ask that in ##windows
[19:41] <WinCamXP> Same server?
[19:41] <WinCamXP> in freenode?
[19:41] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:41] <WinCamXP> ok
[19:42] <ankit> hey charlie i face one problem changes made in xubuntu reflects in my ubuntu also
[19:42] <ankit> Like any wallpaper changes or themes
[19:42] <charlie-tca> of course they do, they use the same underlying system
[19:43] <charlie-tca> hm, I don't know why themes and wallpaper should change in both, though
[19:43] <ankit> can we tweak it?
[20:27] <Obituary37> hi
[20:27] <knome> hello
[20:27] <Obituary37> hi
[20:27] <Obituary37> what version of xubuntu do you use
[20:28] <knome> 10.10
[20:29] <Obituary37> have you tried lubuntu?
[20:29] <Obituary37> is quite nice too
[20:29] <Obituary37> very fast
[20:29] <knome> yes i know lubuntu
[20:29] <knome> do you have a support issue with xubuntu?
[20:29] <Obituary37> whats that
[20:29] <knome> Obituary37, do you have a problem with xubuntu?
[20:31] <grayb> Greetings.  I'm setting up a virtual machine that's going to run some greasemonkey automations.  I'm aiming for a low footprint, so I was thinking about Xubuntu.  In researching I came across Lubuntu also.  Which do you think would be a better fit?
[20:31] <Obituary37> not for the moment, it works very fine
[20:31] <Obituary37> both are quite fast grayb
[20:32] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu, of course, since this is the Xubuntu support channel
[20:32] <grayb> haha, well said.  I wasn't sure if the focus for Xubuntu was still low-footprint
[20:32] <knome> grayb, xubuntu is more user-friendly, lubuntu will use less resources
[20:33] <grayb> thanks
[20:35] <knome> Obituary37, okay. if you want to chat randomly, we have #xubuntu-offtopic and even #ubuntu-offtopic for all *buntu* users
[22:47] <Edlyness> Hey, everybody... I need some help getting my Thunar file manager to run a bash script. Any takers?
[22:54] <Sysi> magical three minutes :P
[22:54] <charlie-tca> and I didn't have my answer ready...
[23:00] <Vegas_HP> hey guys
[23:00] <Vegas_HP> I have 2 harderives in the computer i installed xubuntu 10.10 on how do i format the other drive in order to use it
[23:04] <Sysi> mount it, if it isn't formatted use gparted and then mount
[23:04] <Sysi> !mount


[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144599 in quodlibet (universe) "QuodLibet crashes when exporting to iPod" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144599
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #144601 in gnome-terminal (main) "package gnome-terminal 2.18.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144601
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144606 in bluez-utils (main) "package bluez-utils 3.19-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144606
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144604 in ubuntu "rtl-8029: 'ifconfig eth0' = Device not found" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144604
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #144608 in bash (main) "source .bash_localrc (or similar) by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144608
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144618 in firefox (main) "evolution has stalled on a particular e-mail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144618
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144600 in xchat (universe) "xchat logging cannot be disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144600
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144621 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "iwl4965 drops out from time to time" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144621
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144622 in linux-meta (main) "kernel update makes keyboard unusable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144622
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144623 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Can't send a file from cell phone to PC" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144623
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144624 in vnc (main) "AltGr does not work in xvncviewer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144624
[02:14] <terlmann> Bug that appears when you install feisty : run the network shares command while running synaptic in download mode ( already getting some packages for something else. Network shares will request you install smb  stuff ,tell it no. close the network shares dialog. this immediately crashes synaptic.
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144626 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "External projector is blank with i945" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144626
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144583 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144583
[02:33] <Z> hi..
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144628 in gnome-media (main) "gstreamer-properties: testing input fails with "Failed to construct test pipeline for ..."" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144628
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144630 in nvidia-xconfig (universe) "nvidia-glx-config cannot load driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144630
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144632 in bash (main) "add color grep in default .bashrc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144632
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #144631 in xen-3.1 (main) "xen guest hangs after mounting filesystem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144631
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144638 in ubuntu "ssh -X and run gnome apps then exit problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144638
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144641 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "displayconfig-gtk should generate an randr 1.2 configuration where possible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144641
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144640 in ubuntu "middle mouse button will not scroll" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144640
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144647 in ktorrent "KTorrent can only add new tabs of one type" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144647
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144653 in ubuntu "scim could not be called out with ctrl+space after Sep. 20 update." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144653
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144654 in amule (universe) "wxFatalSignalHandler in /usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0[0xb75b75d6] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144654
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144655 in wine (universe) "WoW freezes under wine" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144655
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144657 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "cannot update kernel in gutsy - linux-image-2.6.22-12-generic.postinst script results in an invalid call to mkinitramfs by specifying -c option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144657
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144658 in moto4lin (universe) "Preference settings fail to change" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144658
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144662 in gaim (main) "Right-to-Left text in Display Name Problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144662
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144663 in gnome-screensaver (main) "OpenGL Screensavers Crash " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144663
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144509 in mythbuntu-control-centre "mythbuntu-control-centre doesn't start with AMD64BIT Motherboard on X86 it works" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144509
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144673 in clutter (universe) "Clutter libraries need update to v0.4 (from 0.2)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144673
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144676 in postgresql-8.2 (main) "package postgresql 8.2.5-1 failed to install/upgrade: problm se zvislostmi - nechvm nezkonfigurovan" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144676
[08:32] <dholbach> good morning
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144679 in postfix (main) "postconf truncates main.cf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144679
[08:56] <kagou> good morning
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144683 in gallery2 (universe) "gallery2 db dep should allow postgres-8.2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144683
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144684 in update-manager (main) "[Feisty, Update Manager]  Cannot upgrade the DEB program package 'dpkg-dev'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144684
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #144685 in udev (main) "udev fails to install in a vserver due to /lib/udev/devices/ppp - operation not permitted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144685
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #144689 in soundconverter (universe) "soundconverter crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144689
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144688 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Update freezes causing system wide failure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144688
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #144691 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org-common wrong depends for ppc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144691
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144692 in ubuntu "Panel moves to center of screen when not expanded" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144692
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #144695 in wireless-tools (main) "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless : no more connection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144695
[10:42] <dholbach> thekorn
[10:42] <dholbach> oops
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144699 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[gutsy]  nvidia driver not loaded by default after upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144699
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144700 in ubuntu "update manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144700
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144703 in compiz (main) "compiz leaves shadow outlines behind menu / tooltip objects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144703
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144704 in gst-plugins-good0.10 (main) "qtdemux should know about HDV1080i50 mov files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144704
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #144705 in kaffeine (main) "Kaffeine crashes on DVB radio" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144705
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #144707 in f-spot (main) "[gutsy]  f-spot build doesn't generate the .pot file" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144707
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144710 in ubuntu "Possible Upgrade Problem Encounters Feisty->Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144710
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #144711 in xen-3.1 (main) "network-bridge script get wrong vifnum" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144711
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144712 in pam (main) "package libpam-runtime <IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144712
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144713 in expat (main) "package libexpat1 1.95.8-4ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144713
[12:09] <gorski> i cannot remove items from my System>Preferences>Main Menu?
[12:10] <gorski> i cannot remove items from my System>Preferences>Main Menu!
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #144722 in kdesudo (main) "kdesu leads to no permission for X" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144722
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144724 in alacarte (main) "Cannot uncheck items from System>Preferences>Main Menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144724
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144725 in compiz (main) "Can't send window to back using compiz window border edge" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144725
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144727 in compiz (main) "Compiz script doesn't have an /etc/default file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144727
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #144728 in ubuntu "libpython2.5.so doesnt exist" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144728
[12:52] <gorski> Running Fiesty. I am unable to check/uncheck items in System>Preferences>Main Menu. Help?
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144729 in ubuntu "libpython2.5.so doesnt exist" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144729
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144726 in xresprobe (main) "weird display during gutsy installation just after xresprobe" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144726
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144730 in isdnutils (main) "CAPI/ISDN driver does not work in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144730
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144731 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "GDM freeze when I open the "log out" applet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144731
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144732 in compiz (main) "cannot resume from suspend with nvdia-glx-new and compiz" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144732
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144734 in mono (main) "mcs optimises falsly code out in "if ( ... &&false)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144734
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144735 in devmapper (main) "After today's update to devmapper, system does not boot successfully" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144735
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144739 in ubuntu "Current session breakes when starting F-Spot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144739
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144740 in postgresql (universe) "Able to trigger backend segmentation faults via tsearch2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144740
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144741 in ubiquity (main) "Untranslated strings in manual partitioning window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144741
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144745 in cheese (universe) "Webcam detected, but not working with Cheese" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144745
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #144747 in gnome-panel (main) "Espaces de travail - PB" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144747
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #144750 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "gutsy: nvidia-new -- nvidia-settings no longer works" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144750
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144751 in bluez-gnome (main) "missing an obex way to send/receive files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144751
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144752 in evolution (main) "Evolution keeps crashing on startup because it keeps trying to display the last selected mail" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144752
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144754 in pidgin (main) "[gutsy]  pidgin does not go automatically offline when network is down" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144754
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144755 in ubuntu "no glx/dri with opensource radeon drivers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144755
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #144687 in evolution "evolution crashes after trying to add a location for a webcal" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144687
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #144756 in kdenetwork (main) "proxy settings don't affect" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144756
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144758 in ubuntu "xserver-xgl makes gnome-panels stretch on dual monitors" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144758
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144759 in gnome-screensaver (main) "message left in screensaver is lost" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144759
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #144763 in ubuntu "Firefox crashed and GNOME stopped " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144763
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #144764 in libranlip (universe) "bashisms in debian/rules" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144764
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144765 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144765
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #144304 in gnome-mplayer (multiverse) "gnome-mplayer crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144304
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144766 in nautilus (main) "nautilus pie-chart isn't seen inside a folder." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144766
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144767 in apport (main) "tries to use https post with proxy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144767
[03:30] <Pici> hile (($key, $value) = each(%coins)){ print $key.", ".$value."<br />";
[03:31] <Pici> er, ignore that.
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144769 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "crash when setting up external display" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144769
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #144770 in pidgin-otr (universe) "Pidgin-OTR is not localized - sync with version 3.1 ?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144770
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144771 in openoffice.org (main) "package ttf-opensymbol 1:2.3.0~rc1-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144771
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144772 in ubuntu "system freezes on quit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144772
[03:58] <unggnu> hi all
[03:59] <unggnu> is it possible that there is no aport dump if gdm crashes?
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144776 in rpy (universe) "python-rpy error: no module name _rpy2051 at gutsy, ver of Sep. 25th." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144776
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #144775 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice 2.3 word processor crashes when splitting or merging cells in a table that is split across two pages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144775
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144778 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144778
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #144777 in xorg (main) "xinerama xserver crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144777
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144782 in apport (main) "Upload dialogue violates HIG" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144782
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144786 in libpam-usb (universe) "libpam-usb pmount missing command" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144786
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144790 in casper (main) "hibernate and suspend are not disabled on gutsy liveCD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144790
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144793 in partman-auto-loop (main) "Use dd with bs=4k when creating disk images" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144793
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144795 in ubuntu-docs (main) ""Introduction" to "If you've been using Windows" isn't important enough to be its own page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144795
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144796 in ubuntu-docs (main) ""Glossary of Windows terms" link doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144796
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144798 in casper (main) "Merge lupin functionality + add external hooks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144798
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144799 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Warning/notification sections are garishly red" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144799
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144800 in casper (main) "gutsy installer finds older gutsy media on hdd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144800
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144801 in virtualbox-ose (universe) "VirtualBox kernel driver not installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144801
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144802 in gnome-terminal (main) "random image pixmaps in background" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144802
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144806 in ubuntu "Handbrake not in repository" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144806
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144807 in libxml2 (main) "UVFe: please sync libxml2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144807
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144809 in grub (main) "grub menu multiple root on same disk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144809
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144808 in libxslt (main) "UVFe: please sync libxslt from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144808
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144810 in gedit (main) "gedit - button to become root (feature request)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144810
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144811 in ubuntu-docs (main) "All subheadings begin with ". " (a period and a space)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144811
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144813 in ubuntu "ubuntu doesn't see every file on ntfs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144813
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144818 in strigi (main) "strigi-daemon overloads CPU" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144818
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144815 in kde-systemsettings (main) "[Gutsy]  Unable to load module "User Management"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144815
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144472 in gnome-panel (main) "3d desktop dont rotate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144472
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144746 in ubuntu "DVD/DVD-RW BUG" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144746
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144821 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashes upon login. " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144821
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144826 in human-icon-theme (main) "Regression: Human icon set includes out of place GNOME icons" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144826
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144830 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager doesn't recognize battery removed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144830
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144832 in kreetingkard (universe) "Wish: upgrade Kreetingkard to current 0.7.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144832
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144833 in python2.5 (main) "error importing email.mime.text" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144833
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144834 in network-manager-applet (main) "[gutsy]  nm-applet is showing no network connection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144834
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #144836 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "package libnautilus-burn4 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess dpkg-split killed by signal (Segmentation fault)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144836
[06:25] <ogra> thats realy overkill in abusing the K
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144839 in adept (main) "adept crash - new kernel upgrade - 25Sep07" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144839
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144840 in gnome-screensaver (main) ""by" field on note" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144840
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144841 in ubuntu "interface names get shifted with mac address change" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144841
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144842 in gnome-main-menu (universe) "g-m-m does not respect nautilus settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144842
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144844 in empathy (universe) "empathy crashes with Gtk-Error **: Byte index 23 is off the end of the line" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144844
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144845 in casper "Need scripting for automatic ubiquity: pre commands" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144845
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144846 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Crashed when trying to install/download Nvidia drivers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144846
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144850 in gnome-terminal (main) "[gutsy]  NCurses not working anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144850
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #144851 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144851
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #144852 in casper "Need scripting for automatic ubiquity: post commands" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144852
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144854 in casper "need preseed love for reboot dialog in automatic ubiquity" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144854
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144855 in gnome-control-center (main) "Please add gnome-system-monitor to gnome-keybinding-properties" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144855
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144856 in ubuntu "gnumeric save dialog keyboard accelerators" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144856
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144857 in ubiquity (main) "Partman freeze" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144857
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144858 in compiz (main) "Can't select cells in OpenOffice with Chart Wizard if Compiz is enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144858
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144859 in gedit (main) "Color schemes can't be disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144859
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144860 in koffice2 (universe) "FTBFS on Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144860
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144861 in ubuntu "trash file properties do not reflect all files in folders" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144861
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #144643 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 144128)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144643
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144866 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "javaws executable is not in the PATH" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144866
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144867 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  Total hang on using rt2x00" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144867
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #144825 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144825
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #144868 in debian-installer (main) "RAID installation only puts GRUB on one MBR" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144868
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #144869 in irssi-scripts (universe) "Please sync irssi-scripts (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144869
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144686 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 144128)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144686
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #141631 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 144128)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141631
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #144870 in scponly (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync scponly (4.6-1.1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144870
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144871 in ubuntu "treeviewx missing a library" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144871
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144872 in rhythmbox (main) "queue problem, ald songs keeps popping up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144872
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144753 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 144128)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144753
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144785 in compiz (main) "I CAN SEE THE MOUSE! compiz.real (Black screen after idle) crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144785
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #136307 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136307
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #139154 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139154
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144880 in ubuntu "several panel applets crash after gdmsetup modifies login window theme (trash applet, mixer applet, deskbar applet)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144880
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #143983 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in __new__() (dup-of: 139154)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/143983
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144883 in elinks (main) "[Merge]  elinks 0.11.1-1.5ubuntu1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144883
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137127 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137127
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137199 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137199
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #137266 in ubuntu "bluetooth server crashes after kde start (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137266
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #138416 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138416
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #138945 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138945
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #139019 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139019
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #139289 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139289
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #139322 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139322
[08:12] <ubotu> New bug: #139798 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139798
[08:12] <ubotu> New bug: #139834 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139834
[08:12] <ubotu> New bug: #140840 in ubuntu "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140840
[08:12] <ubotu> New bug: #141185 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141185
[08:12] <ubotu> New bug: #144635 in ubuntu "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in __new__() (dup-of: 139154)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144635
[08:12] <zul> holy crap
[08:12] <ubotu> New bug: #144882 in network-manager (main) "ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH] : Operation not supported" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144882
[08:13] <ubotu> New bug: #136525 in kdebluetooth (main) "kdeblueplugd crushs direct after starting KDE (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136525
[08:13] <ubotu> New bug: #136790 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136790
[08:13] <ubotu> New bug: #136866 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136866
[08:13] <ubotu> New bug: #137028 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137028
[08:13] <ubotu> New bug: #137047 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137047
[08:13] <pedro_> ouch
[08:14] <ubotu> New bug: #136219 in ubuntu "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136219
[08:14] <ubotu> New bug: #136314 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>() (dup-of: 136307)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136314
[08:14] <ubotu> New bug: #136352 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136352
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137576 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137576
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #137647 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137647
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #144884 in tilda (universe) "tilda does not work the 3rd time it gets displayed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144884
[08:17] <ubotu> New bug: #137355 in kdebluetooth (main) "kblueplugd crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 135893)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137355
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144887 in pykdeextensions (main) "libpythonize0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144887
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144349 in smart (universe) "smart crashed with RuntimeError in delete()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144349
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144888 in usplash (main) "usplash: can't get console font: No space left on device" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144888
[08:30] <ogra> bdmurray, i'm not sure suspend/resume will work at all on the liveCD, beyond that we'll need to make sure that screen locking is disabled since we default to automatic locking after resume
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144889 in fast-user-switch-applet (main) "fusa show a big white screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144889
[08:31] <ogra> heh, reading that bug, i wonder how fusa looks like in a 300 user ldap setup :)
[08:32] <bdmurray> ogra: suspend has worked in the past with the Live CD
[08:33] <ogra> well, we never had enabled it by default ...
[08:33] <ogra> so it had no widespread testing yet
[08:34] <ogra> lets better switch it on directly after hardy opens and see what kind of feedback we get
[08:35] <bdmurray> It is a convenient way to ask people to test suspend w/o updating to the development release.  I had been doing that with Feisty suspend bugs.
[08:36] <ogra> did we enable suspend during development of feisty ?
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144890 in jde (multiverse) "error in /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50jde.el" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144890
[08:36] <ogra> i thought that casper script is like that since edgy already
[08:37] <bdmurray> I'd have to double check about Feisty.
[08:37] <ogra> well, you can set the key easily with gconf-editor to switch it on again
[08:37] <ogra> or with gconftool
[08:38] <ogra> i know we always had it off for released versions, i agree that it might make sense to have it on but we should really have widespread testing imho
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144892 in jde (multiverse) "jde <IP_ADDRESS>-2 fails to install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144892
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144896 in ubuntu-meta (main) "package ubuntu-desktop 1.72 failed to install/upgrade: Abh?ngigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144896
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144899 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[gutsy]  problem with nvidia-glx" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144899
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144901 in kdenetwork (main) "kget crashes on pressing "Pause" " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144901
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144904 in openoffice.org (main) "ftbfs on many archs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144904
[09:06] <bdmurray> ogra: I think there is an extraneous space in edubuntu-artwork
[09:07] <bdmurray> see art/homepage/index.html "Welcome to Edubuntu 7.10 !"
[09:08] <ogra>  where ? you mean behing the .10 ?
[09:09] <ogra> *behind
[09:10] <bdmurray> Yes, before the "!"
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #144906 in bughelper (universe) "bugnumbers memory hungry?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144906
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #144907 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "Configuring action in ccsm for screen edges doesnt work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144907
[09:11] <ogra> ah, k
[09:12] <ogra> looks ok to my german eyes :) i'll fix it for the nextupload
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #144908 in mlmmj (universe) "Sync mlmmj 1.2.14-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144908
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #144909 in synaptic (main) "openoffice.org-common corrupted archive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144909
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144912 in ubuntu "no sound with realtek ID 262 in kernel 22-12 but in kernel 22-10 has sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144912
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144914 in compiz (main) "putting glxgears below another window when running compiz looks funny" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144914
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144913 in gnome-control-center (main) "defaults to 'normal effects' even when the driver does not support compositing" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144913
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #144915 in rpart (universe) "package r-cran-rpart 3.1.36-1 failed to install/upgrade: probl?mes de d?pendances - laiss? non configur?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144915
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #144916 in ubuntu "hilbernation crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144916
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #144918 in edubuntu-artwork (main) "Firefox startpage title has an extraneous space" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144918
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144919 in ubuntu "pendrive becomes read-only after two mounts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144919
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144920 in update-manager (main) "Getting upgrade pre-requists failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144920
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #144921 in ubuntu "Standby crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144921
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #144917 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "xrandr -o 1 causes hard crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144917
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #144924 in kdegraphics (main) "KPDF Print Error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144924
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144930 in update-manager (main) "update-manager'E:The package vmwareworkstation needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144930
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #144931 in casper (main) "gnome-keyring-manager pops up after connecting to wireless network" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144931
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141386 in gnome-system-tools (main) "users and groups no longer works" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141386
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144933 in pdns (universe) "REGRESSION: axfr fails when SOA does not contain serial" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144933
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #144241 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in glGetString()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144241
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #144937 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144937
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144941 in ubuntu "Gutsy CD Live 20070925.2 password?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144941
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #144940 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  CellWriter" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144940
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144721 in totem (main) "totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144721
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144742 in eog (main) "eog crashed with SIGSEGV in gnome_vfs_mime_get_description() (dup-of: 140729)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144742
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #144944 in pdns (universe) "SPF records: broken syntax" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144944
[10:36] <smallfoot-> What is Ubuntu doing to prevent the problem of license profileration?
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144668 in totem (main) "totem-plugin-viewer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144668
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144716 in gnome-screensaver (main) "on boot gnome screensaver crashed, even though not active" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144716
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144945 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "kernel Oops in unionfs with l-u-m version 2.6.22-12.32 using Edubuntu amd64 daily 200709025" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144945
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #144946 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in rss_config_control_new()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144946
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #144948 in ubuntu "nm-applet Problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144948
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144538 in alacarte (main) "menu editor dont start. " [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144538
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144951 in compiz (main) "logoff screen takes ages after clicking on the logoff button" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144951
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #144952 in gnome-panel (main) "[gutsy]  some human-icons in gnome-panel look very blurry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144952
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #144954 in pdns (universe) "sshfp records do not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144954
[11:11] <RainCT> seb128: ping
[11:12] <seb128> RainCT: hi
[11:13] <RainCT> seb128: hi. sorry if I bother you, but bug #144855 has nothing to do with bug #11160
[11:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 144855 in gnome-control-center "Please add gnome-system-monitor to gnome-keybinding-properties (dup-of: 11160)" [Wishlist,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144855
[11:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 11160 in gnome-control-center "gnome-settings-daemon dies when C-A-DEL used as a shortcut to logout" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11160
[11:14] <seb128> RainCT: "This would for example provide an easy way to assign it to 'Ctrl+Alt+Del' for users coming from that-system-we-won't-name :P."
[11:14] <seb128> RainCT: I would not call that "nothing to do"
[11:14] <RainCT> yes, but that's just as an example
[11:14] <RainCT> it could be ctrl + alt + m, or whatever else the user wants.
[11:14] <seb128> we are not going to start adding random applications there
[11:15] <RainCT> the request is just about adding gnome-system-monitor to the keyboard combinations dialog, like the gnome-terminal
[11:15] <seb128> and next guy will want a game or a photo editor, etc
[11:15] <seb128> no
[11:16] <RainCT> well, then you can set it as won't fix or invalid, but it isn't a dupe of that other bug..
[11:17] <seb128> RainCT: it looked like an another request to bind gnome-system-monitor to ctrl-akt-del
[11:17] <seb128> alt
[11:17] <seb128> RainCT: I'll wontfix it if that makes you happier ;)
[11:17] <seb128> RainCT: or rather dup it of bug #18252
[11:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 18252 in control-center "Allow to set arbitrary shortcuts with gnome-keybindings-properties" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/18252
[11:18] <RainCT> yeh, that would be a more appropiate one
[11:19] <seb128> good
[11:19] <seb128> I'll mark it duplicate of this one ;)
[11:19] <seb128> RainCT: sorry for the mistake
[11:20] <RainCT> np
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #144957 in human-icon-theme (main) "KDE Human and Tangerine icons not complete" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144957
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144968 in ubuntu "clearlooks produce solid black tooltips" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144968
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #144969 in gtk2-engines-qtcurve (universe) "GTK version of qtcurve does not use KDE's icons" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144969
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144970 in kdesudo (main) "Kdesudo does not work with libpam-poldi" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144970
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144971 in cowdancer (universe) "please sync cowdancer (0.41) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144971
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #144972 in svn-load (universe) "package svn-load None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/svn-load.list]  failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/svn-load', which is also in package subversion-helper-scripts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144972
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144974 in system-config-printer (main) "HPLIP toolbox not working with system-config-printer choosen printer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144974