[19:32] <mekhami> if not, is there an alternative that you would recommend? i keep some databases sync'd across multiple machines using gdrive
[19:32] <r0n> Hi guys, still got same probleme here since 15.04 updates I've got random shutdown on my laptop even going back to 14.04. Temperatures are ok, It was running for the last 3 days non stop without problem but had to reboot and now doing it again. I checked ram too and eventual default on motherboard
[19:32] <OerHeks> !info grive
[19:33] <jiri_> hi all
[19:33] <mekhami> OerHeks from what I understand that's currently not working?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> crumpr, your vpn service should suppl;y you with a username and pw for their connection which you then add to their config file or to network manager depending how it's setup
[19:34] <mekhami> OerHeks THIS PROJECT IS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED DUE TO GOOGLE DRIVE API CHANGES  etc
[19:34] <jiri_> any admin or manager here?
[19:34] <OerHeks> mekhami, oh, that is bad, then i have no idea.
[19:34] <daftykins> jiri_: volunteers only pretty much. what are you after?
[19:34] <crumpr> ok, got it. I don't have to add the password by script. if i add a file manually to /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ then I get asked for the password by the keymanager
[19:35] <PlasmaStar> Ubuntu running real slow in latest VirtualBox. :(
[19:36] <bazhang> how much ram given to it PlasmaStar
[19:36] <PlasmaStar> 768
[19:36] <whallz> hey, i installed nvidia-331 and nvidia-prime and now the x session suddenly freezes, completely unresponsive. if i switch to tty1 and then come back to tty7 it unfreezes and is responsive again
[19:36] <bazhang> thats why
[19:36] <jiri_> dafty ...help my pls
[19:36] <PlasmaStar> What do you recommend?
[19:36] <daftykins> jiri_: i can't until you ask something
[19:36] <bazhang> run some other shell PlasmaStar
[19:37] <bazhang> or even another DE entirely
[19:37] <BluesKaj> whallz, 2 gpus ?
[19:37] <whallz> BluesKaj: yes, geforce 820m
[19:37] <jiri_> where can buy windows?
[19:37] <whallz> BluesKaj: with the intel thingy
[19:37] <reisio> PlasmaStar: video ram might be even more relevant
[19:37] <bazhang> jiri_, ask in ##windows
[19:38] <PlasmaStar> Heh. Most likely.
[19:38] <OerHeks> mehkam i think you are wrong, just installed grive, did 'grive -a', logged in for the code, syncing now, done
[19:38] <geri> can nit find gmake
[19:38] <geri> whats that?
[19:38] <daftykins> jiri_: goodbye.
[19:38] <bazhang> try lxde with that PlasmaStar see if it makes a diff
[19:38] <jiri_> www.windows?
[19:38] <bazhang> geri install build-essential
[19:39] <bazhang> jiri no the channel ##windows
[19:39] <jiri_> daft
[19:39] <bazhang> jiri_, /join ##windows stop asking here
[19:39] <jiri_> baz and XP?
[19:39] <geri> bazhang: is already installed!!
[19:39] <bazhang> jiri_, go to that channel, its offtopic here
[19:40] <geri> gmake
[19:40] <jiri_> i dont have adress
[19:40] <geri> gmake is not part of build-essential....
[19:40] <whallz> BluesKaj: what if it is 2 gpus? is that freezing behaviour a known issue or something?
[19:40] <whallz> jiri_: you can start here: google.com
[19:42] <PlasmaStar> I remember when Ubuntu worked on super low specs, right out of the box.
[19:42] <PlasmaStar> I could almost consider it garbage now.
[19:43] <bazhang> PlasmaStar, try something lighter no going back
[19:43] <BluesKaj> whallz, i just know there are difficulties with the intel and nvidia dual gpu system,  you're actually lucky you have a workaround
[19:43] <PlasmaStar> It's being a bit more responsive now that I've given it slighter more RAM/VRAM.
[19:43] <PlasmaStar> But resolution is stuck at 648x480
[19:44] <LMNOP> i doubt that
[19:44] <AxldenieD> Hello
[19:44] <LMNOP> hi can i help u
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> PlasmaStar  try lxde or xfce for low specs
[19:45] <daftykins> PlasmaStar: it's fine if you're sensible enough not to try and install the standard unity based one. pick a lighter weight DE and it still is good
[19:45] <geri> bazhang: gmake is not part of build-essential!! any idea?!
[19:45] <PlasmaStar> There isn't much of a choice on the website daftykins :(
[19:45] <daftykins> "the website"
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> PlasmaStar  unity is idd quite resource consuming, i never use it for my virtual machines
[19:46] <bazhang> PlasmaStar, the repos have many many choices
[19:46] <daftykins> PlasmaStar: there is if you pick xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu MATE... which all have their own sites.
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> mate <3
[19:46] <PlasmaStar> Ah, ok.
[19:46] <PlasmaStar> First I'm hearing of lubuntu lol
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> PlasmaStar  https://ubuntu-mate.org/vivid/
[19:47] <curious_user> lubuntu is cool; openbox has really cool config
[19:49] <geri> can nit find gmake ... what package is it in?
[19:49] <reisio> geri: ask apt-file
[19:50] <geri> apt-file ?
[19:50] <PlasmaStar> MonkeyDust: Lol'd, I thought you were calling me your mate.
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> PlasmaStar  i was ;)
[19:50] <reisio> geri: command/package
[19:50] <geri> apt-file gmake command not found
[19:51] <geri> apt-file gmake ... command not found
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> PlasmaStar  after the jokes, mate is really a nice experience, you should try it
[19:51] <EriC__> geri: sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update
[19:52] <PlasmaStar> I guess it wouldn't hurt to download it.
[19:54] <geri> what is apt-file ?
[19:55] <EriC__> you can search which package has that file
[19:55] <geri> oh cant i figure out via web search? :D
[19:55] <EriC__> apt-file search /usr/bin/<package>
[19:55] <EriC__> there's ubottu too
[19:55] <EriC__> !find udisksctl
[19:56] <acer> sal
[19:56] <EriC__> !fr
[19:56] <geri> apt-file search gmake ?
[19:56] <geri> EriC__:
[19:56] <EriC__> !find gmake
[19:57] <EriC__> geri: it might be too cluttered so use apt-file search /usr/bin/gmake
[19:57] <geri> ok
[19:58] <EriC__> geri: why are you searching for gmake?
[19:58] <genii> dpkg -S /usr/bin/gmake
[19:58] <geri> bc a tools calls gmake
[19:58] <geri> and i dont have it installed
[19:58] <EriC__> genii: that only searches installed ones though right?
[19:58] <genii> Hm, yep
[19:58] <genii> You could search packages.ubuntu.com
[19:58] <EriC__> geri: when i type gmake i get no package suggestions
[19:59] <geri> hmmm
[19:59] <EriC__> which guide are you following?
[19:59] <curious_user> question: is somebody using awesomeWm?
[19:59] <geri> EriC__: http://pavel-demin.github.io/red-pitaya-notes/led-blinker/
[20:00] <geri> EriC__:
[20:00] <EriC__> geri: it doesn't say gmake anywhere does it?
[20:01] <geri> it calls it internally
[20:01] <EriC__> oh
[20:02] <geri> EriC__: i try to install all packages which are listed here
[20:04] <EriC__> geri: do you have bash-completion installed?
[20:04] <geri> EriC__: no is it listed on this page?
[20:04] <geri> what is bash-completion?
[20:04] <EriC__> it's listed in the ubuntu site
[20:05] <EriC__> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gmake&mode=&suite=vivid&arch=any
[20:05] <geri> where?
[20:05] <geri> i cant find it here: http://pavel-demin.github.io/red-pitaya-notes/led-blinker/
[20:05] <EriC__> are you sure you don't have bash-completion installed?
[20:06] <whallz> how can i revert to nouveu? i installed nvidia-331 and nvidia-prime, i have an acer laptop with dual gpu (geforce 820M and intel)
[20:06] <geri> EriC__: i donst remember doing any: sudo apt-get install bash-completion
[20:07] <geri> is thats what you mean
[20:07] <EriC__> type apt-cache policy bash-completion
[20:07] <whallz> should i purge those nvidia packages and just install nouveau-firmware?
[20:07] <geirha> bash-completion is installed by default
[20:07] <EriC__> yeah, it is
[20:08] <geirha> Annoyingly it also forces itself upon users
[20:09] <geri> EriC__: http://ideone.com/RYbdqJ
[20:09] <EriC__> geri: did you install the vivado suite thing?
[20:09] <geri> yes
[20:09] <geri> EriC__: http://ideone.com/RYbdqJ
[20:09] <zykotick9> geirha: while i'm not a fan of bloat, i certainly don't consider bash-completion to be included in that... YMMV
[20:09] <Ziggurat> Will Ubuntu 15.04 get Linux 4.x ? or will that be off till 15.10?
[20:09] <EriC__> geri: can you paste the error you get about gmake?
[20:10] <geirha> zykotick9: I'm unfamiliar with the abbreviation "YMMV"
[20:10] <geri> ok
[20:10] <geri> mom rebuilding
[20:10] <zykotick9> geirha: sorry, Your Milage May Vary (meaning you may have different results)
[20:11] <whallz> BluesKaj: well... it's not actually a workaround  :)
[20:11] <geri> EriC__: check: http://ideone.com/RYbdqJ
[20:12] <aarobc> Hi! so, one question: I like to scroll around, and the touchpad has the momentum enabled. annoying thing is when I am scrolling and then want to hit a keyboard shortcut, i hold down control, but if I was previously scrolling, it zooms the page because of the momentum. Any workarounds?
[20:12] <geirha> zykotick9: It used to be bloated; taking seconds to start a new terminal, however once it started loading completions on demand, it stopped being bloated
[20:12] <geirha> zykotick9: I dislike it for its bad shell code; using $(ls) to iterate files and anti-patterns like that. And as a regular user, you can't opt out of it.
[20:13] <BluesKaj> whallz, bummer...sorry i don't know enough about the latest fixes available , if there are any
[20:13] <EriC__> geri: try to copy it to your path to see if it works
[20:13] <EriC__> it's located in /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/gmake
[20:14] <EriC__> geri: either check which variable it's using as the path, maybe $PATH, or you could do a workaround and run ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/gmake /usr/bin/gmake
[20:15] <geri> geri: try to copy it to your path to see if it works ??? copy what?
[20:16] <EriC__> copy /usr/share/bash-completion/completions
[20:16] <FiReSTaRT> hey guys... the uuid for my / partition changed due to an accidental unplug.. the solution i came across involves specifying the new uuid in /boot/grub/grub.cfg will that automatically get written into the mbr on reboot or will i still have to run update-grub?
[20:16] <EriC__> geri: try PATH=$PATH:/usr/share/bash-completion/completions
[20:16] <godfrey_> #catalyst
[20:17] <EriC__> then run it again
[20:17] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: you need to run sudo update-grub, and the mbr won't be touched btw
[20:18] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: so i'd correct the uuid in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then run update grub and that should fix the grub error?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> FiReSTaRT: Wht do you mean by "changed due to an accidental unplug"?
[20:19] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: you don't need to edit grub.cfg , update-grub will make the file for you
[20:19]  * zykotick9 has never heard of UUIDs changing before...
[20:20] <OerHeks> i wonder if that partition is healthy now.
[20:20] <Jordan_U> FiReSTaRT: Just unplugging a drive without umounting it first can do some bad things, but I wouldn't ever expect it to change the fileystem's UUID. I highly suspect that you're misinterpreting your current situation.
[20:20] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: the problem is that it didn't.. i accidentally unplugged the drive with the / partition and turned on the machine.. after i reconnected it, i got a grub error basically telling me it can't boot off whatever the uuid there used to be.. i can still boot off that partition if i select it from the BIOS boot menu
[20:20] <shwaiil> Hey
[20:20] <jarlopez> Hey all. When I log in, my screen immediately goes black, only to attempt to ficker back on in ~5 seconds, and then go back again (rinse and repeat). Any tips on how to debug and fix? I've attempted a lot in the past, from re-configuring compiz to defaults to re-installing my graphics drivers to re-installing unity
[20:21] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: what do you mean by the bios boot menu?
[20:21] <Jordan_U> FiReSTaRT: What is the exact error message you see when you try to boot normally?
[20:21] <shwaiil> Q: Installed a Canon MG series printer scanner. Seen a few posts about how to use the scanner and requires the command line, scangearmp. I wonder if I can create shortcut on the desktop or something ?
[20:21] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: pressing F8 during boot an selecting that particular drive
[20:21] <EriC__> do you have another hdd?
[20:21] <FiReSTaRT> Jordan_U: i'd have to reboot this machine to get the msg.. been suspending it over the last couple of weeks
[20:21] <zykotick9> jarlopez: "ls -l ~/.Xauthority" and verify it's owned by your user and NOT root.
[20:22] <Bashing-om> whallz: What release are you running ? Nvidia recommnes the 346 version for the driver .
[20:22] <Jordan_U> FiReSTaRT: Before you do that then, please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[20:22] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | FiReSTaRT
[20:22] <jarlopez> zykotick9: Yeah, .Xauthority is owned by me
[20:22] <geri> EriC__: ok lets try again :D
[20:22] <zykotick9> jarlopez: ok, good luck... i got nothin' more to suggest
[20:22] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: yes.... that one i took out to travel with it since my desktop machine was flying in checked baggage and i didn't want the hdd with my /home partition unattended
[20:22] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: do you have another hdd?
[20:22] <jarlopez> zykotick9: Thanks either way
[20:23] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: ok, so it has only one hdd right now?
[20:23] <EriC__> or 2 are plugged in?
[20:23] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: i put both in
[20:23] <EriC__> ok, i think you're booting the other one, select the order in the bios to boot the other by default
[20:23] <FiReSTaRT> i'm at my destination.. so i put in the hdd that was out but accidentally unplugged the one that had my system/apps/swap
[20:24] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: already did that... the ssd is at the top of the list.. i never even changed that, but i verified that first
[20:25] <EriC__> are you using legacy or uefi?
[20:25] <FiReSTaRT> and i can boot off the ssd but i have to manually select it by pressing f8
[20:25] <FiReSTaRT> iirc i changed it to legacy right off the bat
[20:25] <EriC__> check that it's legacy
[20:26] <FiReSTaRT> ok.. i'll do a reboot, check if its legacy and also confirm the error message
[20:26] <FiReSTaRT> will need a piece of paper... bbiab :)
[20:26] <Jordan_U> FiReSTaRT: It's most likely that your /home/ drive contains a proper grub installation, and our drive with your root contains an old grub-installation from a previous installation which had a different UUID.
[20:26] <joaojeronimo> hey guys, did something change in 15.04 that makes things that you install with pip not go to some place on my PATH ?
[20:27] <geri> EriC__: when i call gmake with that path added to PATH i get ... gmake ... permission denied :D
[20:27] <geri> whhyyy?? :D
[20:29] <geri> EriC__: dont understand why that is set to root? does it make sense? http://ideone.com/RYbdqJ
[20:29] <EriC__> geri: i don't know, but i just checked and gmake on my pc is a symlink to make
[20:29] <geri> EriC__: is your root owner too?
[20:29] <stacks88> with centos/redhat you can do yum provides '*/lspci' to figure out what package has the lspci command. is there something like this on ubuntu? if so what
[20:30] <EriC__> yes
[20:30] <geri> EriC__: permession denied ... hm?
[20:30] <geri> what should i do?
[20:30] <EriC__> stacks88: dpkg -S <command> if it's installed, apt-file search <command> if it's not an installed package
[20:30] <paakkari> wich is the best programs to tweak unity/gnome
[20:31] <stacks88> apt-file thats what i was looking for then, thanks EriC__
[20:31] <OerHeks> paakkari, unity-tweak-tool, or gnome-tweak-tool
[20:31] <geri> any idea EriC__ ?
[20:31] <paakkari> OerHeks , wich do u prefer
[20:32] <OerHeks> paakkari, try em both, and find out.
[20:32] <FiReSTaRT> looks like you guys are correct.. this is a bios mess.. for some reason the bios (legacy btw) is not letting me to allow to boot from it by default
[20:32] <EriC__> geri: honestly i don't know, we could be on the wrong track here
[20:32] <EriC__> geri: nevermind the whole bash-completion thing
[20:33] <Jordan_U> FiReSTaRT: It's most likely that your /home/ drive contains a proper grub installation, and our drive with your root contains an old grub-installation from a previous installation which had a different UUID.
[20:33] <Jordan_U> FiReSTaRT: I'm also still waiting for boot info script RESULTS.txt and an exact grub error message.
[20:34] <geri> EriC__: can i change the link to user?
[20:34] <geri> instead of root?
[20:34] <EriC__> geri: nah leave it as it is
[20:34] <geri> or call sudo make all :D
[20:34] <FiReSTaRT> message: "error: no such device: [shows uuid and then the next line is the grub rescue prompt]
[20:35] <geri> EriC__: i dont know how to fix it... permission denied seems not like a huge issue?
[20:35] <EriC__> geri: i'm not sure that's the file you need
[20:35] <Jabo> what can I do for fan control if "sensors" doesn't show any fans?
[20:35] <EriC__> can you upload the makefile maybe we can see what it's looking for
[20:36] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: are you in your ubuntu right now?
[20:37] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: yep
[20:37] <FiReSTaRT> if i push f8 during boot, i get the boot menu, select the device and it boots up... but in bios i can't give it priority for some reason.. only showing the other hdd, the dvd and something else (don't know what lol)
[20:37] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: so the bios won't let you choose the ssd?
[20:38] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: not by default but will from the F8 menu.. so it looks like it's not an OS issue but a bios issue
[20:38] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: is the other hdd sdb?
[20:39] <EriC__> i wonder if grub can boot from one hdd to another, like one hdd has grub and the other has the root fs
[20:39] <FiReSTaRT> both are sda
[20:39] <FiReSTaRT> oops
[20:39] <FiReSTaRT> sorry
[20:39] <FiReSTaRT> nope
[20:39] <FiReSTaRT> the other is sdb
[20:40] <auronandace> FiReSTaRT: i would have thought that if you can select the ssd from f8 you should be able to set it in the bios for boot priority too
[20:40] <FiReSTaRT> auronandace: so would i.. might be some sort of an asus glitch
[20:40] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: can you type sudo blkid -p PTTYPE /dev/sdb
[20:40] <auronandace> FiReSTaRT: what are the boot priority options?
[20:41] <FiReSTaRT> error: PTTYPE: No such file or directory
[20:41] <FiReSTaRT> /dev/sdb: PTTYPE="dos"
[20:41] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: ok, try sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[20:41] <FiReSTaRT> auronandace: the other hdd (magnetic), the dvd rw and not sure what the other option is but it's not the ssd
[20:42] <geri> EriC__: all here: https://github.com/pavel-demin/red-pitaya-notes/blob/master/Makefile
[20:42] <belgianguy> Hi, since I've upgraded to 15.04 at boot Abiword opens when Unity has loaded, the page is empty, anyone an idea what might cause that?
[20:42] <auronandace> FiReSTaRT: i'd check to see if they have released a bios update
[20:42] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: done... brb, rebooting :)
[20:42] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: ok, cool :)
[20:51] <FiReSTaRT> thanks EriC__
[20:51] <FiReSTaRT> this worked
[20:52] <EriC__> ok, now you're using the ssd to boot the hdd
[20:52] <EriC__> i mean hdd to boot the ssd
[20:52] <FiReSTaRT> yep
[20:52] <jarlopez> Hey all. When I log in, my screen immediately goes black, only to attempt to ficker back on in ~5 seconds, and then go back again (rinse and repeat). Any tips on how to debug and fix? I've attempted a lot in the past, from re-configuring compiz to defaults to re-installing my graphics drivers to re-installing unity
[20:52] <FiReSTaRT> and that makes a good bandaid, so now all i gotta do is figure out why the bios is not seeing the ssd all of a sudden
[20:52] <FiReSTaRT> thanks :)
[20:52] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: yeah, no problem :)
[20:53] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: maybe if you remove the cmos battery?
[20:54] <FiReSTaRT> EriC__: that was the next step but don't wanna mess with that until i move into our flat
[20:54] <EriC__> ok
[20:57] <FiReSTaRT> living out of boxes and need this comp for work
[21:00] <EriC__> FiReSTaRT: you could try removing the battery and holding the power button, it might work i guess
[21:00] <EriC__> my wifi stops working when i use reisub to reboot and that fixes it
[21:03] <samuel> Does Anyone Know why i get an Invalid Clone Error when syncing my directory
[21:05] <samuel> Guys when i sync ubuntu touch dir it gives me Invalid Clone Error
[21:05] <Fodd> Hey guys. I've got a system and i want to convert it to ubuntu. I've got 2 HDD's and want to put Ubuntu on the 2nd drive, and then take my main drive out, so i've only got the 1 drive left.
[21:05] <Fodd> I've not got a CD drive, only a 32MB usb stick
[21:05] <Fodd> sadly cannot go out and get a bigger flash drive atm.
[21:05] <EriC__> 32MB?
[21:05] <Fodd> yeh
[21:06] <Fodd> its like 300000 years old
[21:06] <Fodd> lol
[21:06] <SirNeo> buy a 8gb stick
[21:06] <EriC__> ok, what's on the main drive?
[21:06] <Fodd> Windows that im using atm
[21:06] <Fodd> i need to keep that drive intact
[21:07] <Fodd> as if i dont get along with ubuntu, i can just plug it back in
[21:07] <EriC__> ok, you can try the netinstall
[21:07] <EriC__> !netinstall
[21:07] <EriC__> !mini
[21:08] <brian_b> hi guys. how much sympathy will I get for what seems to be Xorg/kernel issues with i915 under 14.04.2, should I bother to fill out a bug report or just update to 15.04 before testing/reporting?
[21:08] <Fodd> the drive is 500gb, however just a small flash drive thats all
[21:08] <mvk> i would like to make a file.service (powertop.service to be precise) as systemd... to be started at boot
[21:08] <brian_b> seemed to start happening in the last week or two after an update, there have been a strong of kernel & xorg updates
[21:08] <mvk> wehre should i place it?
[21:08] <OerHeks> Only the 32 bit lts 14.04 will fit on a 32 mb stick
[21:08] <bazhang> mb?
[21:08] <Fodd> yes
[21:08] <Fodd> lol
[21:08] <bazhang> nothing will fit on that
[21:08] <Fodd> guess MB isnt used a lot anymore
[21:09] <OerHeks> bazhang, mini iso does.
[21:09] <bazhang> OerHeks, the mini was 60 or so I thought
[21:09] <bazhang> !find minimal
[21:09] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:10] <bazhang> I must be thinking of the gparted iso
[21:10] <EriC__> Fodd: if you have another pc you can use a netinstall
[21:10] <EriC__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[21:10] <bazhang> thanks OerHeks
[21:11] <Fodd> cant i just download it online?
[21:11] <Fodd> or how about put the ISO on the 2nd drive
[21:11] <Fodd> boot from a usb drive
[21:11] <Fodd> then load the ISO?
[21:11] <Fodd> or is that too big for the usb drive?
[21:12] <EriC__> Fodd: the problem is that you don't have another linux os, or else you could boot it with grub, that's why i asked what's on the other one
[21:12] <LMNOP> just dig some change outta the couch and get a usb stick bro
[21:12] <LMNOP> there liek $4
[21:12] <Fodd> lol i can afford one
[21:12] <Fodd> just that everything is shut atm
[21:12] <Fodd> its 22:12 here
[21:12] <LMNOP> ooh
[21:12] <Fodd> and i dont wanna let it defeat me :)
[21:12] <EriC__> Fodd: you could install 12.04 64bit it's 27mb and then sudo do-release-upgrade to 14.04
[21:13] <Fodd> yeh sounds good
[21:13] <EriC__> if you are really keen on installing tonight
[21:13] <LMNOP> i gotcha
[21:13] <Fodd> how can i do that?
[21:13] <Fodd> also, if i do the update,
[21:13] <Fodd> will that install the GUI also?
[21:13] <Fodd> as i'm shit in terminal lol
[21:13] <EriC__> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso , checksum it after you download it
[21:14] <EriC__> you have a 64bit machine right?
[21:14] <Fodd> Nah
[21:14] <Fodd> Q6600
[21:14] <EriC__> you dont?
[21:14] <Fodd> nope, 4+ year old Dell
[21:14] <Fodd> i need to dig in my sofa lol
[21:14] <EriC__> ok, download 14.04 then and install it's 31mb
[21:14] <Fodd> okay
[21:14] <EriC__> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[21:15] <Fodd> how would i install it?
[21:15] <EriC__> that's the link ^ after it downloads checksum it
[21:15] <EriC__> !checksum > Fodd
[21:15] <Fodd> thank you
[21:16] <Fodd> what software would you use to put the ISO onto USB?
[21:16] <EriC__> use lili
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Fodd: Can you be connected to the internet via ethernet while installing?
[21:16] <Fodd> i've got ISO to USB - tried grub, however that didnt work
[21:16] <Fodd> I've got ethernet cable
[21:16] <EriC__> linux live usb creator
[21:16] <Fodd> thank you
[21:17] <AxldenieD> Ciao All :)
[21:17] <Fodd> do i need to partition the drive?
[21:17] <Fodd> or will the mini install do that?
[21:18] <b10110011> Hi :)
[21:19] <EriC__> Fodd: i dont know
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Fodd: The installer will allow you to repartition.
[21:19] <Fodd> okay
[21:19] <Fodd> with that Linux Live USB Creator, i use my internal drive
[21:19] <EriC__> oh, right, thought you meant if it partitioned automatically
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Fodd: Note that the minimal installer is a little bit harder to use than the normall Ubuntu installer, and about 50 times uglier :)
[21:20] <n3ss3s> Ok I'm in a world of shit
[21:20] <Fodd> dont care about ugly :)
[21:20] <EriC__> Fodd: just drink a lot of beer first
[21:21] <Fodd> lol
[21:21] <Fodd> I can do beer :)
[21:21] <Fodd> i did have a 4gb drive around here somewhere
[21:21] <Fodd> however cannot find it
[21:21] <Fodd> i've got an old Galaxy S3, if you can boot from that?
[21:21] <carla_> sa pizza
[21:22] <pizzaops> PIZZA TIME FOREER
[21:22] <EriC__> mini install is fine, if you have a decent connection i think it would be pretty good
[21:22] <pizzaops> s/FOREER/forever
[21:22] <Fodd> its a 152mb connection
[21:22] <EriC__> no big deal then
[21:23] <geri> is /opt/ usually reserved for root?
[21:23] <EriC__> geri: it's supposed to be for optional stuff
[21:23] <Fodd> writing the USB
[21:23] <geri> EriC__: i installed vivado with root permission
[21:24] <geri> and later on i changed it from root to user using chown
[21:24] <geri> is that an issue?
[21:24] <Jordan_U> geri: /opt/ is for installing System wide software from outside the default repositories / package manager.
[21:24] <geri> all located in /opt/
[21:24] <geri> and later on i changed it from root to user using chown
[21:24] <EriC__> geri: maybe you have to tell it where vivado is
[21:24] <Fodd> linux key is ready :)
[21:24] <Fodd> wish me luck
[21:24] <Fodd> i'll be back soon guys
[21:24] <Fodd> thank you for all your help :)
[21:25] <geri> Jordan_U: i installed vivado to /opt/xillinx/vivado for root user ... later i changed to to user ... using chown... is that allowed?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> geri: You should *not* make /opt/ owned by a non-root user. If you want to install software as your user, keep it in /home/you/. What is your end goal? What are you trying to install/use/do?
[21:25] <geri> vivado suggested this default path to be to /opt
[21:25] <Jordan_U> geri: Why did you want to change the owner?
[21:26] <geri> Jordan_U: bc i dont want to always start the vivado with root permission
[21:27] <Jordan_U> geri: You don't need to be root to run an executable owned by root. 99% of your executable files are owned by root, but have permissions such that they can be read and executed (but *not* written to) by any user.
[21:28] <geri> Jordan_U: i understand you... but to allowed to install to /opt i need to have root permission
[21:29] <Jordan_U> geri: Yes. Why do you have a problem with that?
[21:29] <geri> Jordan_U: i dont like to use sudo to start vivado
[21:29] <geri> Jordan_U: whats why i changed to permission for Vivado to a user permission
[21:30] <geri> Jordan_U: http://ideone.com/RYbdqJ
[21:30] <geri> the question was if thats allowed ?
[21:30] <geri> chown -R ...
[21:31] <Jordan_U> geri: I just told you that you do *NOT* need to run Vivado as root just because Vivado's files are owned by root. If anything, you should be use chmod to make the files world readable (and executable, for the executable files only).
[21:31] <geri> Jordan_U: it didnt let me install to /opt without beeing sudo
[21:32] <OerHeks> geri, read carefull:  install <> run
[21:32] <Jordan_U> geri: Installing software and running it are two very different things.
[21:33] <Jordan_U> geri: You *do* need to be root to install software to /opt/. That is normal, and should stay that way. You do *not* need to be root to run such software from /opt/. If you're getting errors running Vivado as non-root, the correct tool to fix it is "chmod", *not* chown.
[21:34] <OerHeks> maybe read some vivado manual what to do after install > http://svenand.blogdrive.com/archive/167.html#.VVEf9ie1FBc
[21:34] <Jordan_U> geri: So to be completely clear, no you should *not* have any files in /opt/ that are owned by any user other than root.
[21:34] <geri> ok
[21:34] <Jordan_U> geri: You also should probably not be running vivado as root. Those two statements are not incompatible.
[21:35] <geri> i dont run it as root now
[21:35] <geri> but can i run it as a user when the permission is root?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> geri: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I have said yes to this many times already.
[21:36] <geri> ok
[21:37] <Jordan_U> geri: Change the owner for all files in /opt/ back to "root" and if you get an error message when running vivado as your user, please pastebin the error message and we will help you fix things properly.
[21:37] <geri> ok
[21:40] <geri> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11085373/
[21:40] <brian_b> [repeating since I think it was lost in the conversation flow when I asked before] hi guys. how much sympathy will I get for what seems to be Xorg/kernel issues with i915 under 14.04.2, should I bother to fill out a bug report or just update to 15.04 before testing/reporting?
[21:42] <brian_b> seemed to start happening in the last week or two after an update, there have been a strong of kernel & xorg updates
[21:42] <greyback> brian_b: 14.04 is a LTS release, we support it for 5 years. Please report your bug
[21:43] <k1l_> brian_b: what issues?
[21:43] <geri> Jordan_U: wait a sec
[21:43] <Jordan_U> geri: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l -R /home/redpitaya/.Xilinx/".
[21:44] <geri> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11085405/
[21:44] <geri> thats now correct
[21:44] <geri> i add those
[21:47] <geri> Jordan_U: http://ideone.com/RYbdqJ
[21:47] <geri> Jordan_U: all here now
[21:48] <Jordan_U> geri: So the problem appears to actually be caused by the fact that when you ran (not installed, ran) vivado as root previously (which you shouldn't have ever done) it made some directories in your $HOME that were then owned by root. So the proper fix is probably to "chown -r redpitaya:redpitaya /home/redpitaya/.Xilinx/", though there might be other things that also need fixing.
[21:48] <geri> Jordan_U: and the opt?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> geri: Should stay exactly how it is, at least as far as that error message is concerned. If after fixing this we get another error message it might imply that something in /opt/ needs to be changed also.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> geri: Files in /home/you/ should generally be owned by you. Files in /opt/ should be owned by root.
[21:50] <geri> ok ... i installed vivado via sudo ./installfile ...
[21:51] <Jordan_U> geri: That's perfectly fine (aside from the fact that .deb files are preffered where available).
[21:51] <geri> ok...it seems its better now... let me run it to the end
[22:01] <geri> Jordan_U: the make file calls somewhere qmake with is a symlink: ls -la /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/gmake  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 May 5 07:52 /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/gmake -> make
[22:01] <geri> i mapped this to PATH but get an permission error :) any idea?
[22:01] <brian_b> k1l_: Upon resume or attaching an external monitor, desktop frequently becomes inaccessible
[22:01] <brian_b> as if compiz had crashed, but kill/restarting it from console doesn't help
[22:01] <brian_b> only full reboot seems to bring it back
[22:02] <brian_b> unity --reset appears deprecated, which was something I tried from googling around
[22:04] <Kion> does the printer configuration utility needs to connect to a cups server via tcp socket or unix type socket?
[22:08] <dami0> hi, i'm trying to listen in on acpi events, but i get nothing using acpi_listen
[22:08] <mekhami> anyone know what's up with nvidia-331 and whether or not it's gonna get fixed or if i should just look for a different driver...
[22:10] <cryptodan> mekhami: whats the issue?
[22:11] <Aramil> i need some help im on a livecd right now because my ubuntu install does not allow me to login the login screen shows up then after i type in my password it shows a black screen then goes back to the login page
[22:11] <mekhami> cryptodan, i just get bug report spam
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Aramil: Proprietary graphics driver that was in use, and now an update has broken it ?
[22:11] <cryptodan> bug report spam? mekhami can you elaborate?
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> Aramil, sounds like an issue starting X, video drivers?
[22:13] <Aramil> well i did just move my backup of my /home to a different partition then changed fstab to use it
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Aramil: (Please tell me you used UUIDs in /etc/fstab ?)
[22:14] <mekhami> cryptodan, not really. 'system has encountered a problem' and it's always related to nvidia-331.
[22:14] <mekhami> the problem's been reported to them a hudnred million times based on the bug page.
[22:14] <cryptodan> mekhami: maybe its time to replace the video card
[22:14] <Aramil> yes i did
[22:14] <cryptodan> mekhami: I have used the nvidia-331 driver and it was stable never crashed
[22:14] <cryptodan> It only crashed when my GTX 580 was failing
[22:19] <I-am-Groot> Hello... I have Ubuntu 14.04 and i have facing some glitches
[22:20] <I-am-Groot> For a month now, the shutdown option in the status bar decided to stop working
[22:21] <I-am-Groot> I was able to shutdown and restart by pressing the power button and selecting shutdown or restart..or simply use terminal
[22:21] <I-am-Groot> But just this evening, i found out that when i press the volume buttons on my laptop, nothing happens
[22:21] <I-am-Groot> Any help??
[22:24] <Kion> I-am-Groot: maybe upgrading to 15.04
[22:26] <I-am-Groot> hmmmm... i dont know Kion
[22:26] <I-am-Groot> I really enjoy using Ubuntu 14.04
[22:27] <claudio_> hi
[22:30] <claudio_> hi
[22:31] <Bashing-om> claude2: Hello, You have a ubuntu support request ?
[22:33] <I-am-Groot> Guys is there anyway i can fix my volume buttons without upgrading??
[22:35] <joaojeronimo> has anyone had any issues with the ansible package in vivid ?
[22:36] <TechNoNerd> What is the best way to install the latest version of ubuntu on a windows xp computer?
[22:39] <om3n> hello
[22:40] <Kion> I-am-Groot: what did you change when they stopped working?
[22:40] <I-am-Groot> Kion: Nothing, it just happened
[22:40] <om3n> having a strange issue on ubuntu 14.04 running on lenovo yoga 2 (non pro) seems whenever i press the f6 button or rather switch off touchpad button, i get this symbol; ± popping up o.O anyone know of anyhitng of this sort happening ? i tried acpi_listen but it doesnt seem to return any vlaues
[22:41] <fotografisto> how do I access an encrypted home partition in windows 7?
[22:42] <bekks> fotografisto: you cant.
[22:42] <Kion> I-am-Groot: Sorry, I wish I could help but I dont know more
[22:42] <davidfetter_fbn> hi
[22:43] <davidfetter_fbn> what's the officious way to get less not to care whether a file is compressed or not?
[22:43] <I-am-Groot> Thanks Kion
[22:44] <Kion> I-am-Groot: I would try and filter my syslog file for errors, that might give you a clue of what's going on
[22:44] <Bashing-om> TechChristoph: older Windows XP may have some depends . How good is that hardware by todays standards will dictate what it can support .
[22:45] <I-am-Groot> Thanks again Kion
[22:45] <I-am-Groot> Will do
[22:48] <mmercer> how often does ubuntu apply updates for things like iftop from universe ?
[22:49] <OerHeks> mmercer, when nessasary?
[22:49] <mmercer> OerHeks: then id argue its WAY behind, given that from a network admin perspective, pre3 from last year adds a critical request feature ( text output mode )
[22:49] <mmercer> XD
[22:50] <alephant> Hi, does anybody know how I configure ISC dhcpd to send responses only via a specific address? I'm running it on a box with multiple IP addresses and (for monitoring purposes) I want all responses to come FROM $IP_FOO (rather than $IP_BAR or $IP_BAZ)?
[22:51] <mmercer> alephant: aliases on the same interface, or separate interfaces ?
[22:51] <alephant> Aliases on the same interface, unfortunately :-/
[22:51] <mmercer> hmmm, checking,  dont remember if thats possible or not
[22:51] <alephant> mmercer: I know it's easy to do if I've got separate interfaces
[22:51]  * mmercer nods
[22:52] <alephant> mmercer: unfortunately the manpage is voluminous
[22:53] <okwex> hello everyone, does anyone use nevernote here?
[22:53] <alephant> okwex: is that a typo for Evernote?
[22:53] <mmercer> alephant: hmmm... wait... thinking about it.... your dhcp server should be bound to one of those ip addresses, not to all of them, it should be based on the pool/router definition
[22:54] <okwex> alephant, there exists nevernote, or, more precisely, nixnote
[22:54] <mmercer> are you seeing it respond based on any of the ip addresses ( assuming due to aliasing )
[22:54] <okwex> https://launchpad.net/~vincent-c/+archive/ubuntu/nevernote
[22:54] <alephant> Not sure whether it's all addresses, I've only seen it be not the one I want.
[22:55] <alephant> okwex: Then, no :-)
[22:56] <awojo> Does anyone know if you can design your own alerts in Landscape?
[22:56] <okwex> or maybe I can tell the problem and maybe it relates to other programs with similar situations sometimes..all of a sudden the text field is disabled. that is, I cannot paste or type in. what could I try to change this=
[22:56] <okwex> ?
[22:57] <alephant> mmercer: standby, just noticed there's both /etc/dhcp{,3} and I'm not sure which I'm using... garbage-collecting...
[22:57] <rik_ferreira> hello
[22:58] <Rev_DE> Hey, anyone here good with debian packaging? I've got a newbie question about how to build a package from source
[22:59] <Ev0luti0n_> guys,i know this is offtopic... but i need to say this...
[23:00] <Ev0luti0n_> why is it so freaking hard to get a free code unlock tool these days?
[23:00] <Ev0luti0n_> God damn!
[23:00] <alephant> Can somebody point me to some documentation of when/how the s/eth0/p2p1/ change happened???
[23:00] <Ev0luti0n_> and i'm searching for a cheap alcatel phone ffs
[23:00] <OerHeks> Ev0luti0n_, hahahaha .. this is not offtopic, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:01] <OerHeks> Ev0luti0n_, and swearing is against channel rules, so please don't.
[23:01] <alephant> mmercer: Sorry, I just hosed the irc window. Could you please up-arrow your comment about pools?
[23:01] <beardsir> Hello there.
[23:02] <Ev0luti0n_> :
[23:02] <Ev0luti0n_> :|
[23:02] <beardsir> did #ubuntu-beginners redirect me here?
[23:02] <Ev0luti0n_> kay, sorry
[23:03] <beardsir> does anyone use i3?
[23:03] <beardsir> or are you married to unity?
[23:04] <beardsir> oh boy...lotsa traffic on here
[23:05] <mmercer> alephant: your responses should be based on the router definition in the pool,  is it sending the responses on multiple source addresses because of the aliasing ?
[23:05] <yeats> alephant: the channel is logged, so you can read here (just FYI): http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/05/11/%23ubuntu.html
[23:05] <alephant> yeats: nice, thanks. Why isn't that in the /info?
[23:05] <mmercer> if so, that seems like a bug, as thats basically running duplicate dhcp servers (in a very unusual manner) on the same subnet topology
[23:06] <alephant> yeats: (or whatever the channel message is called)
[23:07] <asnel> #join ##c
[23:07] <alephant> so... what if I want the OFFER to come from a different IP from the one given by the pool's router definition?
[23:08] <alephant> (I'm monitoring the dhcp.local service which is on a discrete IP from the router)
[23:10] <beardsir> anyone know how to get rid of user activity in weechat terminal?
[23:10] <beardsir> as in the log on/off stuff?
[23:10] <okwex> or maybe I can tell the problem and maybe it relates to other programs with similar situations sometimes..all of a sudden the text field is disabled. that is, I cannot paste or type in. what could I try to change this=
[23:10] <mmercer> alephant: ... so your using dhcpd as a dhcp-relay service ?
[23:11] <mmercer> i fail to understand why the offer would come from something other than the server unless youre doing dhcp-relay
[23:12] <mekhami> I have one game open and one browser tab, why the HELL am I swapping to disk? i do not understand
[23:12] <mmercer> mekhami: not nearly enough information to answer that question
[23:12] <mekhami> i ddon't even know how to give you any more information than that
[23:12] <italys> hi
[23:12] <mekhami> i have 8gb ram there's no way i should be swapping to disk like this
[23:12] <alephant> mmercer: Server has two IPs $GW and $DHCP. I'd like to monitor DHCP as discrete from routing availability, so I want to monitor the availability of $DHCP. But dhcpd is sending responses from $GW (which is the value of the routers option in dhcpd.conf). Dig?
[23:12] <daftykins> mekhami: configure vm.swapiness if you don't want to.
[23:12] <italys> so quick question regarding upstart... what exactly is a sequence number, and what are the values supposed to denote?
[23:13] <mmercer> alephant: ahhhh,  gotcha
[23:13] <mekhami> and now i'm just getting bug report spam again
[23:13] <mekhami> this is a brand new install of ubuntu 14.04
[23:13] <mmercer> sorry,  you had neglected to mention that you were doing routing on the box native too XD
[23:13] <Bashing-om> mekhami: What does ' free ' relate about memory management ; what does ' top ' say ?
[23:13] <alephant> mmercer: Yes, I had a lot of implicit assumptions ;-)
[23:14] <mmercer> single interface is handling both your lan and wan routes?
[23:14] <mmercer> thats going to get complicated btw... lol
[23:14] <alephant> mmercer: No, multiple interfaces for both.
[23:15] <mmercer> gotcha.  anywho, give me a sec, i know there is a hidden "arg" somewhere, i just have to find the darn thing
[23:15] <alephant> mmercer: After warm-spare failover this morning, I want to avoid assuming that DHCP is on the same machine as routing.
[23:15] <alephant> mmercer: although it's late enough now that I might send SIGFUKKIT
[23:15] <mmercer> alephant: hehe, but its sooo fun making assumptions when it comes to networking
[23:16] <mmercer> only to find out that your assumption, while being common sense and completely logical.... is the *opposite* of what #vendor decided to do...
[23:16] <alephant> Insofar as networking is just statistical determinism, it's *all* assumptions!
[23:16] <mekhami> Bashing-om, I'm running CS:GO and top shows CPU spiking at over 150% and memory around 20%
[23:17] <moros-olethros> hello!
[23:18] <mekhami> Bashing-om, its like this any time i play a valve game
[23:18] <alephant> mmercer: strike that, I was thinking of RF.
[23:19]  * alephant waves at the nice people
[23:19] <daftykins> mekhami: you say clean install but do you keep the same /home ?
[23:19] <Kage> I need to upgrade my server from 10.04 to 14.04, what is the less painful way of doing so?
[23:20] <daftykins> clean install
[23:20] <mekhami> daftykins, i mean a total reformat on a new ssd
[23:20] <daftykins> ok so preserving nothing, good good
[23:20] <Kage> I have users and configurations I don't want to break
[23:20] <daftykins> odd you still get such quirks
[23:20] <daftykins> Kage: right but you have to upgrade twice so it might go bad anyway
[23:21] <daftykins> Kage: step 1 backup regardless, then do an upgrade to 12.04
[23:21] <daftykins> then see where you stand
[23:21] <Kage> so... do-release-upgrade?
[23:21] <daftykins> yep
[23:21] <daftykins> after a nice backup
[23:22] <mekhami> daftykins, i dont' even know if its a ram problem, but i get regular system 'crashes' that don't seem to be crashes, a lot related to nvidia-331, and my framerate drops to <1 during games and stays that way
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Kage: ^^ keep in mind a LOT has changed in 14.04 from 10.04 . A lot can break .
[23:22] <daftykins> mekhami: so run memtest?
[23:23] <mekhami> daftykins, idk what that is
[23:23] <daftykins> !memtest
[23:23] <daftykins> gah no factoid
[23:23] <daftykins> mekhami: hold left shift at boot to get GRUB, then pick memtest
[23:24] <mekhami> how long does this run..
[23:24] <daftykins> or boot a desktop ISO and run memtest from there
[23:24] <daftykins> likely an hour for a single pass depending on system RAM amount
[23:24] <mekhami> okay thanks
[23:24] <mekhami> back in a bit
[23:24] <daftykins> i'd do 2 passes minimum
[23:24] <EriC^^> more like a gigabit
[23:25] <daftykins> EriC^^: hmm?
[23:26] <EriC^^> daftykins: nothing, it was a joke
[23:26] <EriC^^> be back in a bit ..
[23:26] <EriC^^> bleh
[23:27] <EriC^^> i can't get fglrx to work, trying fglrx-updates right now
[23:27] <daftykins> EriC^^: which card?
[23:28] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11086559/
[23:29] <daftykins> ah hybrid setup with a mobile, hmm
[23:29] <EriC^^> ok, it installed, reboot time
[23:29] <EriC^^> what do you mean mobile?
[23:29] <ablest1980> should i be using fglrx?
[23:29] <daftykins> it has an 'M'
[23:29] <ablest1980> i have amd graphics
[23:29] <EriC^^> ablest1980: i don't like it, it runs hotter, but i need the gpu for a bit
[23:30] <EriC^^> daftykins: ah
[23:30] <ablest1980> is it good for cs?
[23:30] <EriC^^> i guess
[23:30] <EriC^^> ill brb
[23:30] <daftykins> ablest1980: what model is your card?
[23:30] <ablest1980> ok
[23:31] <Kage> daftykins: no such command as do-release-upgrade
[23:31] <ablest1980> Gallium 0.4 on AMD SUMO
[23:31] <ablest1980> AMD A4-3300M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2
[23:32] <ablest1980> i have two options for xglrx
[23:32] <ablest1980> which i choose
[23:32] <daftykins> ablest1980: try the newer then
[23:32] <EriC^^> nope still says radeon
[23:32] <EriC^^> dang
[23:32] <daftykins> EriC^^: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[23:33] <ablest1980> one is xglrx the other xglrx updates
[23:33] <EriC^^> fglrx-updates used to work
[23:33] <ablest1980> ok
[23:33] <daftykins> _f_glrx
[23:33] <ablest1980> fglrx then fglrx updates?
[23:33] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11086614/
[23:33] <daftykins> ablest1980: *just* updates
[23:33] <ablest1980> ok
[23:34] <ablest1980> i chose the other one
[23:34] <ablest1980> oops
[23:34] <daftykins> EriC^^: module doesn't exist, lack of dkms perhaps?
[23:34] <daftykins> ablest1980: wow.
[23:34] <EriC^^> it said it installed dkms and rebuilt stuff
[23:34] <ablest1980> i cancelled in time
[23:34] <daftykins> EriC^^: hrmm maybe it did it for the wrong kernel?
[23:34] <moros-olethros> ...
[23:35] <moros-olethros> i missed alot, didn't i?
[23:35] <EriC^^> daftykins: i tried rebooting and reinstalling, let me check
[23:35] <daftykins> moros-olethros: no idea what you're talking about. got a support question?
[23:35] <ablest1980> maybe xglrx then updates?
[23:36] <daftykins> ablest1980: why do you keep typing xglrx?
[23:36] <ablest1980> sorry
[23:36] <daftykins> ablest1980: you must be a troll since we both told you to install one thing and you're still asking.
[23:36] <ablest1980> im getting the updates one
[23:36] <moros-olethros> OOOOK. Let's say I want to set up a server made up of nothing but Virtualbox virtual machines
[23:36] <ablest1980> sorry
[23:36] <moros-olethros> how would i do that?
[23:37] <daftykins> moros-olethros: look into virtualbox headless
[23:37] <daftykins> but vbox would be the wrong tech to use for such a thing
[23:37] <moros-olethros> I see...
[23:37] <moros-olethros> what would be best, then?
[23:37] <daftykins> something like vmware ESX or KVM
[23:38] <moros-olethros> Alrighty
[23:38] <moros-olethros> Thank you very much, my good sir/madame/whatever
[23:39] <daftykins> we are legion
[23:39] <moros-olethros> Thank you, legion
[23:40] <erste> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04, and there's a process "init" that has 100% cpu use.. and I found this solution, but it's from about 3 years ago: http://linuxbytknalla.blogspot.com/2012/12/init-process-at-100-cpu-usage.html
[23:41] <EriC^^> daftykins: any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11086705/
[23:41] <EriC^^> also this warning comes up update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken
[23:42] <daftykins> EriC^^: hrmm does Xorg.0.log still speak of no module found?
[23:42] <EriC^^> i'm trying sudo updatedb now to run locate
[23:42] <daftykins> roger that
[23:46] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Maybe "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.con  " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276537 will work for you ?
[23:47] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: thanks, checking
[23:48] <EriC^^> daftykins: the module seems there i think /lib/modules/3.13.0-52-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx_updates.ko
[23:48] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Also ATI with FGLRX requires ' sudo amdconfig --initial ' prior to rebooting .
[23:49] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: it says no supported adapters found
[23:49] <EriC^^> i've used it before though and i didn't type that to get it working
[23:49] <EriC^^> it's still odd it says it doesn't find anything though..
[23:50] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yikes, that can no be a good thing ! We know the hardware is there .
[23:50] <daftykins> maybe that range of M model isn't supported by that driver version?
[23:50] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: ok, i tried removing the alternative thing and reinstall fglrx-updates
[23:50] <Aramil> can someone please help me im getting a login loop and i tried everything i could from a google search im thinking i might of f#@ked up my fstab
[23:50] <EriC^^> daftykins: i don't know, it's in the recommended drivers and it used to work
[23:51] <EriC^^> maybe with this kernel it doesnt work?
[23:51] <EriC^^> i dont know if it matters but i installed the driver from amd's website once and then removed it
[23:52] <daftykins> hrmm did you use their uninstaller?
[23:52] <EriC^^> couldn't find it :D it's supposed to be in /usr/share/ati but it wasn't
[23:52] <EriC^^> i just purged it
[23:53] <EriC^^> and the pc wouldn't boot with the opensource one, as much as i tried to reinstall it etc. so i had to reinstall the amd one
[23:53] <EriC^^> until a dist-upgrade fixed stuff i think
[23:53] <EriC^^> after that i could use the open source one again
[23:54] <mekhami> daftykins currently 50% through pass 1, it caught one error on test 4. is it common to have a few errors?
[23:55] <daftykins> mekhami: no you shouldn't even have one
[23:55] <erste> Hi, anyone with Ubuntu 14.04 and having the process "init" using 100% of your CPU ???
[23:56] <Aramil> can someone please help me im getting a login loop and i tried everything i could from a google search im thinking i might of f#@ked up my fstab
[23:56] <mekhami> daftykins is there a repair action or is it just new ram time
[23:56] <daftykins> mekhami: is this a desktop?
[23:56] <mekhami> yep
[23:56] <daftykins> mekhami: 2+ modules?
[23:56] <mekhami> 2
[23:57] <daftykins> newish machine?
[23:57] <mekhami> not particularly
[23:57] <daftykins> what i would do, is take both out - (with mains power removed) and clean the gold contacts on the modules with a pencil eraser. then clean the slots a bit with an old (but not dirty) toothbrush. after that, memtest each module separately by having just one in at a time in the first slot
[23:58] <daftykins> that'll let you work out whether one is bad or both
[23:58] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: that did it! thanks!
[23:58] <Bashing-om> ericr: Not to detract from your train of thought, but what does the repo offer for drivers ? ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list '
[23:58] <mekhami> sounds good daftykins thanks
[23:58] <daftykins> EriC^^ Bashing-om - weird i thought all amdconfig did was spit out a xorg.conf with 'fglrx' forced as the choice?
[23:59] <daftykins> mekhami: np
[23:59] <EriC^^> daftykins: i meant the update-alternatives command in the website Bashing-om gave me
[23:59] <daftykins> ah i missed that one


[13:52] <doctormo> wow lots of mailing list activity.
[17:21] <thorwil> 0.o  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-5
[17:22] <doctormo> Hey thorwil
[17:22] <thorwil> hi doctormo
[17:22] <doctormo> I notice j_baer has been very active in the art community mailing list. thoughts?
[17:23] <thorwil> doctormo: great enthusiasm, some clear thinking, but over-eagerness
[17:25] <thorwil> doctormo: for example, that libreoffice request doesn't belong at all and on top of that can't be filled in quite yet
[17:25] <doctormo> seconded
[17:26] <doctormo> thorwil: Do you think we need a meeting to discuss issues?
[17:28] <thorwil> doctormo: i would think so, but seeing how my pointing out how the artwork team isn't ready to appear as a functional unit towards the libreoffice project twice, i doubt explaining it once again won't help
[17:29] <thorwil> arg! i doubt explaining it once again will help
[17:30] <doctormo> thorwil: Depends on the context of the discussion. I propose a meeting between myself, yourself and j_baer in private where we can discuss some of the over-eager and misplaced direction frankly.
[17:32] <thorwil> doctormo: we can certainly try that
[17:38] <doctormo> If we can get the three of us on the same page, then perhaps that's all we need to form a nucleus of a community team.
[17:42] <thorwil> doctormo: the only other candidates would be vish and saleel (if he sticks around this time)
[17:45] <doctormo> Worth inviting them in on this then. Would youlike me to set up the administration side of a meeting?
[17:46] <thorwil> doctormo: yes
[17:46] <thorwil> dinner time, bbl
[18:03] <vish> doctormo, thorwil: i tried to bring it up the last time when he was around, but he seems a bit over lost?
[18:05] <vish> s/over//
[18:07] <doctormo> vish, thorwil: art team mailing list has the link for the meeting doodle poll
[18:19] <thorwil> doctormo: doodled, thanks
[18:20] <vish> thorwil: the time is in GMT?
[18:21] <thorwil> vish: yes. the one thing i miss on doodle is selectable timezone (per user)
[18:22] <vish> yea, and there is no indication of the timezone!!!
[18:25] <vish> IMO, The key to building a team is to not talk always.. if one person is doing the talking always then its less of a team, even less if there is not much reply/output
[18:26] <vish> thorwil: should the meeting have been 'baer intervention' ?
[18:26]  * vish very bad! ;p
[18:26] <thorwil> heh, yeah, bad vish!
[18:28] <vish> thorwil: i think what might have gone wrong is, after UDS session baer might have thought that all the team needs now is just some leadership, or someone driving the team..
[18:28] <vish> when actually its that we need a team!!
[18:30] <thorwil> hmm, could be
[19:29] <vish> hrmm! we better have that meeting fast, not sure what baer is thinking!!
[19:29] <vish> last i heard he is not interested in doing the LibO work and not sure what community he is talking about when he mentions 'being interested' !!
[19:30] <thorwil> vish: i guess that's an "apology " for my behavior.
[19:30] <doctormo> vish: I'm terribly confused, could you fill me in on WTF?
[19:31] <vish> doctormo: his latest reply on the LibO thread..
[19:31] <vish> thorwil: yea, but still wheres the promised land?
[19:32] <doctormo> I'm worried because he's looking less like a maverick and more like a disruptive element which each email to the mailing list.
[19:32] <vish> yea..
[19:33] <doctormo> I'd like to get his arse in here so we can chat.
[19:35] <thorwil> vish, doctormo: he must be referring to http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg01191.html
[19:39] <vish> thorwil: yea, but still not an excuse nor is that offensive..
[19:39] <doctormo> thorwil: My only comment is that issues within the ubuntu community should stay in the ubuntu community.
[19:39] <doctormo> But other than that, I think that it's just as wrong to stand up and count yourself as representing the art community in total.
[19:40] <doctormo> which is what j_baer has done 3 times now.
[19:40] <thorwil> doctormo: yes, that's the aspect of it i'm uneasy about. but from my point of view, John and David pulled that topic over there
[19:41] <doctormo> pulled the topic?
[19:43] <thorwil> doctormo: caused me to put the record straight by repeatedly "representing" the community (John) or saying how great the Team would be and what wonders it will do (David)
[19:43] <doctormo> doh


[19:52] <valorie> acheronuk: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/official-policy-for-adding-daemons-to-desktop-common/6086?u=tsimonq2
[19:52] <valorie> thoughts?
 fine by me
[20:04] <valorie> cool, I'll comment
 *kool
 lol
[20:06] <valorie> you did, that's fine
[20:06] <valorie> "posts are required to be at least 20 characters"
[20:06] <valorie> sheesh