 Today is going to be lots of fun.
[07:05]  * forestpiskie tries to look through the rain and wishes he still was
[07:31] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:32] <nigelb> Hi czajkowski
[07:38]  * czajkowski hugs dpm
[07:39] <dpm> morning all
[07:39]  * dpm hugs czajkowski back ;)
[07:39] <czajkowski> nice email to wake up to
[07:39] <dpm> finally found some time to internationalize the code of conduct :)
[07:40] <czajkowski> I think that's pretty sweet
[07:42] <czajkowski> dpm: I'd say wait tillmay 2nd as we're doing a review then of any feedback in caese there is an update
[07:42] <czajkowski> but I dont know how translations works
[07:45] <dpm> czajkowski, it's up to you guys. I'm happy to wait until then, just wanted to get it out of the door, as it had been on my TODO for too long :) But you can merge the changes and set up translations without affecting the CoC text, i.e. we can set up translations as Closed in LP and simply open them when the CoC text is final
[07:46] <czajkowski> ahh didnt know that
[07:46] <czajkowski> getting the CoC translated I think is great to have done
[07:46] <czajkowski> and I think will beneift many people in our community
[07:48] <dpm> absolutely :)
[11:45] <paultag> Tm_T: 'scuse me? :)
[11:45] <cprofitt> hey paultag
[11:45] <paultag> hey czajkowski, good morning.
[11:45] <paultag> erm, cprofitt
[11:46] <czajkowski> paultag: what you mean you didnt want to say hi to me :(
[11:46] <czajkowski> no love taggy
[11:46] <paultag> czajkowski: good $TIME_OF_DAY, lovie :)
[11:47] <czajkowski> yes dear
[11:47] <Tm_T> paultag: nazi reference makes me think of moon nazis, nothing else (:
[11:47] <cprofitt> paultag: http://www.gennx360.com/firm.php?view=values
[11:47] <paultag> Tm_T: :)
[11:47] <cprofitt> take a look at the second to last grouping...
[11:47] <cprofitt> let me know what you think of that wording
[11:48] <paultag> cprofitt: that phrasing is fine - check it:
[11:48] <paultag> We value everyone executing on the decision once made...
[11:48] <paultag> even when they do not agree.
[11:48] <paultag> That is nearly identical to what I said
[11:48] <paultag> it doesn't stop the implementation, and it allows us to keep talking
[11:49] <cprofitt> cool...
[11:49] <cprofitt> excellent... I was looking for some alternate wording that might work
[11:50] <paultag> cool
[11:52] <paultag> alright, brb, work commute
[11:53] <cprofitt> drive safe
[11:53] <cprofitt> or whatever mode of transport you use
[11:53] <paultag> BTW, I know I was over the line yesterday, and I'm sorry for causing a big fuss, but I really had some issues that I'm happy to see were not malicious
[11:53] <paultag> cprofitt: cheers
[11:53] <cprofitt> thanks paultag!
[11:59] <czajkowski> paultag: no fuss was created discusion is good, and the information is being kept and will be discussed at a later date, going around in circles till then may however make you go dizzy :)
[12:02] <akgraner> jcastro - you around and if so do you have about 5 mins for me?
[12:02] <akgraner> if not now just ping me when you do  - just want your thoughts on some charms for a demo
[12:24]  * nigelb hugs czajkowski
[12:25] <czajkowski> nigelb: what is it with your loco, doesnt anyone talk to one another :)
[12:25] <nigelb> czajkowski: Everyone wants to play leader :)
[12:25] <czajkowski> nigelb: never seen it before, but it's a weekly thing now
[12:25] <czajkowski> it's amusing :)
[12:26] <czajkowski> just wish ye'd all talk and work together ;)
[12:55] <jcastro> akgraner: HI
[12:56] <akgraner> jcastro, hey! pm ok - or would hangout or phone work better?
[12:56] <jcastro> mhall119: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122774/only-show-a-menu-under-unity  <--- upstream app author
[12:59] <dpm> wow, looks like a nice little app too!
[13:02] <mhall119> dpm: yeah, OMG ran an article or two about it
[13:03] <mhall119> I'll have to get tedg to answer it, I'm not the best way to do what he wants
[13:09] <jcastro> it looks really great
[14:10] <jcastro> https://twitter.com/#!/castrojo/status/192253555275603969
[14:10] <jcastro> I could use some retweets!
[14:16] <balloons> nice
[14:19] <czajkowski> jcastro: is there a words dictionary for juju stuff?
[14:20] <jcastro> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/glossary.html
[14:21] <popey> jcastro: done
[14:21] <jcastro> pleia2: hey do you use xubuntu or are you a you like a xubuntu contributor?
[14:21]  * jcastro needs to find a xubuntu person that is going to UDS.
[14:21] <czajkowski> jcastro: thanks
[14:21] <czajkowski> jcastro: am looked for the blessing of a charm
[14:21] <jcastro> what do you mean?
[14:22] <czajkowski> let me pm you a log
[14:22] <paultag> jcastro: rt'd :P
[14:33] <technoviking> morning all
[14:36] <dpm> oh, man, talk about commitment to the project, this guy is awesome
[14:36] <dpm> https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/precise/language-selector/help-doc/+merge/102302
[14:45] <dholbach> wow
[14:46] <dholbach> what a great guy
[14:46] <dholbach> he contributed quite a bunch of things to Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+uploaded-packages
[14:46]  * mhall119 hopes the shuttle lands before 11am, or I'm gonna be distracted for today's meeting
[14:49] <cjohnston> mhall119: runway 1R is clear for landing.. less than four miles out
[14:49] <cjohnston> jcastro: since your now a Floridian are you watching this stuff?
[14:50] <jcastro> ah nuts, no
[14:50] <jcastro> linky?
[14:51] <marcoceppi> mhall119: I saw it over the mall in DC, it was AWESOME
[14:51] <cjohnston> nasa tv
[14:51] <cjohnston> CNN
[14:51] <cjohnston> probably any national news channel now
[14:51] <cjohnston> marcoceppi: jealous
[14:51] <marcoceppi> it was pretty spectacular
[14:51] <mhall119> I bet
[14:52] <cjohnston> I watched her fly by the Washington Monument.. on TV of course
[14:52] <paultag> why is everyone in DC atm?
[14:52] <paultag> (I'll be down on the 25th)
[14:52]  * marcoceppi lives here
[14:52] <paultag> ah
[14:52] <paultag> marcoceppi: what do you do in DC?
[14:53] <marcoceppi> "DevOps"
[14:53] <paultag> ah :P
[14:53] <paultag> marcoceppi: I work for Sunlight, so I'm always heading back and forth.
[14:54] <paultag> (DuPont Circle)
[14:54] <marcoceppi> Ah cool, I used to work on the hill for a while at the House of reps
[14:54] <jcastro> wait
[14:54] <jcastro> back up
[14:54] <paultag> marcoceppi: ah, rad
[14:54] <jcastro> marcoceppi: you saw it flying over DC in real life?
[14:55] <marcoceppi> jcastro: yeah man! I left the office around 9:15 and walked down to the mall
[14:55] <jcastro> man that is awesome
[14:55] <balloons> lol
[14:55] <balloons> "So, I just walked down there, and boom! space shuttle"
[14:56] <mhall119> lol
[14:56] <mhall119> no boom for them
[14:56] <mhall119> it's sub-sonic
[14:56] <balloons> mhall119, getting the jokes in early today
[14:56] <jcastro> I think he means "wow, there it was."
[14:56] <mhall119> it's nearly 11
[14:56] <jcastro> not boom
[14:56] <mhall119> jcastro: always killing my jokes with logic :(
[14:56] <jcastro> all in favor of cancelling the IRC meeting to watch the shuttle
[14:56] <jcastro> say aye!
[14:56] <mhall119> aye
[14:57] <jcastro> Hey can I go 2nd?
[14:57] <jcastro> I have a charm school with QA today
[14:57] <marcoceppi> It was a really weird sight, low flying 747 with a shuttle strapped on top and two jets as they did circles around DC and a huge crowd of people just cheering
[14:57] <mhall119> my list is going to be:
[14:57] <mhall119> * watching shuttle land
[14:57] <mhall119> * still watching shuttle land
[14:57] <mhall119> * etc...
[14:58] <cjohnston> lol
[14:58] <cjohnston> mhall119: all about the important things right?
[14:58]  * mhall119 has priorities
[14:59] <cjohnston> It's 11.. I make a motion that we postpone the meeting until a time when the shuttle isn't landing
[14:59] <jono> dholbach, hey, will be just two min
[15:00] <dholbach> jono, team meeting or 1-on-1?
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, as I mentioned, no team meetin
[15:00] <dholbach> ah ok, then I misunderstood
[15:00] <dholbach> fine :)
[15:00] <jcastro> sweeeeet! shuttle time!
[15:00] <cjohnston> lol
[15:01] <cjohnston> jcastro: I had wanted to drive over with the kids.. but ended up not working out
[15:01] <cjohnston> i did take them to the last launch tho... that was pretty awesome
[15:03] <cjohnston> funny... Dulles tower is like, the whole airport is shutdown, we can give him whatever runway he wants.
[15:04] <paultag> from one of my co-workers - http://www.nickomargolies.com/big/2012/04/space-shuttle-discovery-flying-over-washington/
[15:05] <cjohnston> wow
[15:05] <mhall119> paultag: damn, they were *that* low?
[15:05] <cjohnston> ya
[15:05] <jcastro> there it goes!
[15:05] <jcastro> yay science!
[15:05] <mhall119> it's amazing how graceful that thing can look
[15:06] <cjohnston> would be pretty cool to be sitting in a plane there and watch Discovery taxi by
[15:06] <mhall119> +1
[15:12] <nigelb> Hah, you guys know brian curtis?
[15:12] <mhall119> sounds familiar
[15:13] <nigelb> This is a picture his fiance posted on twitter https://twitter.com/#!/KooshballWX/status/192267669142110209/photo/1
[15:15] <cjohnston> jcastro: does Keith have a launcpad SSO>?
[15:15] <jcastro> it sounds like No
[15:15] <cjohnston> thats probably why
[15:16] <cjohnston> we only support that
[15:16] <jcastro> ah, so proper OpenID
[15:16] <jcastro> where no one supports no one elses
[15:16] <jcastro> got it. :)
[15:16] <mhall119> Ubuntu SSO OpenID
[15:16] <mhall119> jcastro: initially that was becacuse they had to have a Launchpad profile
[15:16] <mhall119> we're workingon making that part option
[15:17] <mhall119> which should, in theory, let us support other OpenID providers
[15:17] <cjohnston> mhall119: I sent you an email
[15:17] <cjohnston> ref this convo
[15:17]  * mhall119 ignores is
[15:17] <mhall119> it
[15:17] <cjohnston> its from jcastro, im just forwarding
[15:17] <mhall119> la la la, I can't hear you
[15:17] <cjohnston> Didn't realize you were 7
[15:17] <cjohnston> :-P
[15:18] <mhall119> you didn't?
[15:18] <cjohnston> nope.. thought you were older than Quinn
[15:18] <mhall119> oh, that's just the etherpad he's having trouble with
[15:18] <mhall119> nothing about summit
[15:18] <mhall119> cjohnston: what have I ever done to make you think that?
[15:18] <cjohnston> stupid etherpad
[15:19] <cjohnston> had Quinn
[15:19] <mhall119> lol
[15:19] <mhall119> technically that was Michelle
[15:19] <cjohnston> assisted as the Project Manager and community coordinator
[15:20]  * cjohnston just got his first MP into Lava approved!
[15:20] <mhall119> \o/
[15:21] <mhall119> cool, now I know who to ping if I need a Lava expert
[15:21] <czajkowski> bah why do people edit a lp bug description when  abug is clearly marked fixed released :/
[15:21] <cjohnston> heh.. you still need to set it up
[15:21] <czajkowski> why not add a comment
[15:21] <mhall119> cjohnston: no I don't, I have an expert now
[15:21] <cjohnston> no cause i want you to see the setup
[15:22] <mhall119> czajkowski: better question is why are bug descriptions editable when it's fix released?
[15:22] <czajkowski> this is also true
[15:22] <czajkowski> time to poke lp :D
[15:22] <czajkowski> there are perks
[15:22] <mhall119> have fun :)
[15:22] <cjohnston> i thought you were lp
[15:22] <cjohnston> does that mean your poking yourself?
[15:23] <cjohnston> :-P
[15:23]  * mhall119 goes back to blogging
[15:24] <czajkowski> cjohnston: back to your lava lark my dear :)
[15:29] <jono> dpm, will be two mins
[15:29] <dpm> jono, no worries
[15:34] <jono> dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid=
[15:34] <dpm> jono, ok, joining in
[15:34] <jono> :-)
[15:35] <dpm> you might hear some music in the background, but it's not me, it's the school near my house
[15:35] <dpm> at least it's not Celine ;)
[15:35] <czajkowski> could be worse could be Barbra
[15:36] <czajkowski> sister was home at the weekend of easter, much barbra and celine being played
[15:36] <jono> dpm, hehe
[15:37] <dpm> sorry, it seems g+ is taking a while...
[15:42] <jono> dpm, I lost you
[15:47] <bodhi_zazen> oic I missed paultag =)
[15:56] <pleia2> jcastro: contributor
[16:04] <pleia2> jcastro: pretty sure micahg will be there too, and he's actually one of the devs (I just do website and marketing stuff)
[16:07] <jcastro> ok
[16:15] <jcastro> pleia2: ah ok, so if I were to do a flavors plenary, a "you have 2.5 minutes to tell us what's going on in xubuntu.", would you be comfortable doing that?
[16:16] <jono> balloons, give me two mins, and then I am ready for G+
[16:16] <pleia2> jcastro: yep :)
[16:18] <balloons> jono, kk.. rebooting brb
[16:26] <balloons> kk back
[16:26] <jono> hey balloons
[16:26] <jono> one sec
[16:28] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/extras/canonical.com/horsemen?authuser=0&hl=en&shxp=1&eid=
[16:37] <dholbach> alright my friends - it's time to call it a day for me
[16:37] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:19] <jono> balloons, btw, I posted http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/04/17/adopt-an-iso/
[17:24] <jono> balloons, small typo in your blog entry
[17:24] <jono> you spell digital at the beginning wrong
[17:24] <balloons> jono, thanks
[17:25] <balloons> fixed
[17:26] <jono> balloons, posting to all the social media resources
[17:31] <balloons> heh.. let's see what happens if we try reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/sehjw/iso_testing_adoption_for_ubuntu_precise_release/
[17:45] <jono> balloons, nice!
[17:50] <mhall119> Top 10 independent app downloads from USC, upvote it! http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/seijw/top_10_ubuntu_app_downloads_for_march_2012/
[17:51] <jcastro> upboating!
[17:52] <cjohnston> I hate upboating
[18:03] <jrgifford> upboat!
[18:05] <jcastro> jono: dunno if you want to go today or not but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A
[18:05] <jcastro> or we can just talk tomorrow when I am in town
[18:09] <jono> jcastro, lets sync up when you are here
[18:09] <jono> jcastro, unless you have anything to discuss beforehand?
[18:09] <jcastro> jono: yeah we had to move some plenaries around due to cloud summit
[18:09] <jcastro> but it's no biggie
[18:10] <jcastro> I can't think of anything time-sensitive right now
[18:10] <jcastro> jono: in case you haven't caught the mail, the cloud summit audience will not be intermingled with UDS for plenaries
[18:12] <cjohnston> jono:  wish I knew about the show sst.. would've figured out how to get there a day early
[18:12] <jcastro> "Unfortunately we were not able to get U2 to play for you this UDS, so instead we present ... Severed Fifth!"
[18:14] <jono> jcastro, yeah, I saw that
[18:14] <jono> which is fine
[18:14] <jono> cjohnston, yeah, we only confirmed it recently :-(
[18:17] <mhall119> dpm: nice banner!
[18:18] <jcastro> mhall119: good reddit unity comments today
[18:18] <jcastro> "How can a toolbar and a dock be "unbelievably frustrating", are you trying to press the buttons with your face? That's all I can think of."
[18:18] <dpm> mhall119, thanks, courtesy of gimp :)
[18:18] <jcastro> I have a vision of a guy pounding his face into his monitor
[18:18] <dpm> lol
[18:18] <jcastro> *clunk* *clunk*
[18:19] <mhall119> jcastro: lol
[18:19] <mhall119> jcastro: which one was this on, the Mate release?
[18:19] <jcastro> yeah
[18:30] <jcastro> dpm: mhall119: http://www.uservoice.com/blog/founders/trello-google-docs-product-management/
[18:30] <jcastro> saw this scroll by on my reader
[18:32] <cjohnston> jcastro: what else do we need to do to prepare for UDS?
[18:35] <jcastro> what about the track lead permissions thing?
[18:35] <cjohnston> mhall119: got it done
[18:35] <cjohnston> just needs to be released
[18:35] <jcastro> wow nice!
[18:35] <jcastro> ok so theoretically I'll be able to schedule too?
[19:14] <jussi> AlanBell: or czajkowski about?
[19:38] <czajkowski> jussi: *whack* shall I google for you too also :p
[19:38] <czajkowski> jussi: posted in plain sight and all, all you had to do was open them all up like I did to check :)
[19:47] <AlanBell> jussi: hi
[20:03]  * jussi hides from czajkowski
[20:16] <czajkowski> jussi: :) just saying ;p
[20:17] <jussi> czajkowski: you could have just been specific in the first place ;) :P
[20:17]  * czajkowski peers at jussi
[20:17] <czajkowski> I wouldn't if I were you :)
[20:17] <jussi> hehe
[20:17] <jussi> czajkowski: btw, hows the back?
[20:18] <czajkowski> not bad now thats still not standing up full striaght but a lot better than I have been in a year
[20:18] <czajkowski> and hopefully have some traction done for the next 2 weeks when back in the UK to help
[20:20] <jussi> good to hear
[20:21] <czajkowski> seeminly I've to retrain by brain to what it is to stand straight as currenly I feel I'm standing straight but am lobsided but when I try and fix this I feel off balance
[20:22] <mhall119> czajkowski: you're still in Ireland?
[20:22] <czajkowski> yarp
[20:22] <mhall119> I thought that was just a short visit home
[20:23] <czajkowski> 3 weeks
[20:23] <czajkowski> 2 familky events
[20:23] <czajkowski> saved flying over and back
[20:25] <mhall119> flying?  What, they can build a tunnel to France, but not to Ireland?
[20:26] <czajkowski> it's barely 60 mins from LHR to Shannon
[20:29] <mhall119> you probably spend more time in the plane on the ground than in the air
[20:32] <czajkowski> it;ss the getting to and from the airport is the long bit ,
[20:32] <czajkowski> I ge the heathrow express to paddington, about 25 mins. then it's a abotu 30-40 mins on the tube
[20:35] <jussi> I had a similar length flight today
[20:35] <jussi> Oulu -> helsinki
[20:35] <jussi> it was nice, airports here are either small or well designed
[21:19] <akgraner> jono - isn't there a "how to" for leading a session at UDS somewhere? Or am I making that up?
[21:19] <jono> akgraner, I think jcastro had something
[21:20] <jcastro> http://summit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/scheduling.html
[21:20] <jcastro> stolen from linaro!
[21:20] <akgraner> jcastro, HAHAHA
[21:21] <akgraner> I totally forget about our readthedocs :-)
[21:22] <akgraner> but that's not what I was looking for :-(  - I'll share what what I write with you  - once I get it finished :-P
[21:24] <akgraner> I don't think what I am looking for has been written for uds or connect yet :-(  I just didn't want to re-invent the wheel
[21:24] <akgraner> thanks though :-)
[21:31] <cjohnston> i thought there were some guidelines somewhere
[21:34] <jcastro> oh, _leading_ a session
[21:34] <cjohnston> uh huh
[22:05] <jono> jcastro, hey
[22:06] <jcastro> hey
[22:06] <jono> btw, tomorrow when you fly, get on BArt and get off at Embarcadero
[22:06] <jono> give me a call when you get on BArt
[22:06] <jcastro> roger doger
[22:06] <jono> and then I will meet you at the BArt station and we will drive to Oakland with Chuck
[22:06] <jono> and then I will drop you guys off when we are done
[22:07] <jcastro> ok so you'll snag chuck first?
[22:07] <jono> yep
[22:07]  * jcastro nods
[22:07] <jono> I will get his cell and we will both meet you at BArt
[22:07] <jono> and then walk to the car
[22:07] <jcastro> ok
[22:07] <jono> we can stick your suitcase in my car while we are in Oaktown
[22:07] <jcastro> excellent, along with the server
[22:07] <jono> yup
[22:07] <jcastro> the trunk in a car in Oakland, the safest place in the world!
[22:08] <pleia2> lol
[22:08] <jono> jcastro, hah, it is a closed trunk
[22:08] <jono> should be fine, it is covered
[22:08] <jono> we might bring the server into the studio
[22:08] <jcastro> "where is the nova compute node you were supposed to bring?" "No clue, all we have left is this rim."
[22:09] <cjohnston> I want to come hang out
[22:11] <pleia2> the openstack hotel is on my way to the gym, guess which girl walked past it all in a sweaty linode t-shirt? this one! doh :(
[22:11]  * pleia2 will take an alternate route home tomorrow
[22:15] <daker__> hi everyone, can anyone help with this http://i.imgur.com/xUt6t.png
[22:15] <daker__> ?
[22:15] <jcastro> pleia2: are you attending?
[22:16] <pleia2> jcastro: no, work :(
[22:16] <czajkowski> daker__: what are you stuck on ?
[22:16] <jcastro> ;_;
[22:16] <daker__> czajkowski: visa application
[22:17] <pleia2> I don't have the budget for it anyway, if I did I might have been able to sneak it past my boss for at least one day
[22:17] <jcastro> http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/17/want-to-mess-with-spdy-easily-come-experiment-with-it-via-juju/
[22:17] <jcastro> Oh no he didn't!
[22:17] <jcastro> bkerensa: so if we plop that in front of subway .... and serve over spdy instead of the built in node server thing ...
[22:17] <daker__> czajkowski: i need thoses informations
[22:17] <czajkowski> daker__: not filled in a visa, have you asked marianna what detail you need or ask nigelb as he's filled them in before
[22:17] <pleia2> jcastro: grantbow and I are doing a 12.04 presentation tonight in chinatown, if you have a juju person in town tonight you're welcome to send them over to crash our presentation
[22:18] <jcastro> pleia2: I am not in town until tomorrow
[22:18] <pleia2> too bad :)
[22:18] <jcastro> dang, they're all on demo-prep duty all night
[22:18] <daker__> czajkowski: ok will ask marianna
[22:18] <jcastro> pleia2: I should just  ping you anytime I go over to that coast, I could have come a day earlier. :-/
[22:18] <pleia2> jcastro: indeed!
[22:19] <pleia2> I live right downtown (one stop from embarcadero station bart stop) so I'm always aroundish
[22:19] <jcastro> oh cool!
[22:19] <pleia2> so you can wave as you go through montgomery station :)
[22:19] <jcastro> hey so the charm school is thursday at 5:30 if that works out with your work
[22:20] <pleia2> not work, but that's the same time as my last americas membership meeting ever
[22:21] <pleia2> I could probably sneak in late though, do you need conference badge to get in?
[22:21] <jcastro> I am not sure
[22:21] <jcastro> I am sure I can work something out
[22:21] <jcastro> the summit part is not sold out
[22:22] <jcastro> errr, the conference part is not sold out
[22:22] <pleia2> I spent $500 on the r2d2 xbox instead of the openstack conference
[22:22] <pleia2> :)
[22:22] <jcastro> a wise investment
[22:28] <greg-g> lol
[23:24] <pangolin> openstack is just a fad anyway
[23:25] <pangolin> r2d2 xbox will work forever!


[19:00] <sil2100> o/
[19:01] <sil2100> Looking at the agenda I don't see anything for today, anyone else from the DMB around?
[19:01] <rbasak> o/
[19:01] <rbasak> We're proposing to skip the meeting today
[19:01] <rbasak> Pending admin (I'm waiting on not-me)
[19:04] <ddstreet> o/
[19:10] <sil2100> ACK o/
[19:11] <sil2100> I'll stay around in case someone has any DMB-related questions, but otherwise +1 on skipping
[19:11] <ddstreet> guess we should probably discuss new members at some point in the future
[19:14] <slashd> o/
[19:14] <slashd> no applicant today afaict, so I'm fine to skip if not urgent matter


[17:09] <Encrypt> Hi everybody !
[17:10] <Encrypt> I'm looking for some artists in the Ubuntu One Music Store but I can't find them! :(
[17:11] <Encrypt> I've been looking in 7digital.fr (The service provider of Ubuntu One) and I can find them there...
[17:11] <Encrypt> Do you know why I can find these artists on 7digital.fr and not on the Ubuntu One Music Store?
[17:11] <Encrypt> Maybe I have to register to get the "French Store"?
[17:12] <Encrypt> Because it is actually written in English... I imagine Ubuntu made translations...
[17:12] <Encrypt> (The Ubuntu Team)


[09:07] <DJones> @mark #ubuntu Muslim Spamming a survey/petition link twice, asked not to post it after the first time, but continued a second time before quiting<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:41] <Tubby> whats up whats up
[14:42] <IdleOne> Good morning Tubby
[14:42] <Tubby> !ops
[14:42] <Tubby> noooooooooo
[14:42] <Tubby> still ignored =(
[14:42] <Tubby> !staff
[14:42] <Tubby> =(
[14:42] <Tubby> whyyyyyy
[14:42] <LjL> Tubby
[14:42] <LjL> be aware
[14:42] <LjL> i've got a TABLET now
[14:43] <LjL> this might not be an even fight
[14:43] <Tubby> ljl what tablet?
[14:43] <LjL> it's not even a tablet
[14:43] <LjL> it's a HYBRID
[14:43] <LjL> be in awe of my Asus T100
[14:43] <Tubby> I got nexus 7 2
[14:43] <LjL> pah, Android
[14:43] <Tubby> quad core cpu, 2GB ram
[14:43] <LjL> same here, but quad core *Intel*
[14:44] <Tubby> congratulations "intel"
[14:44] <LjL> i'm, like, going to be able to ban you with mIRC touch gestures
[14:44] <LjL> you don't stand a chance
[14:44] <Tubby> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[14:44] <LjL> :>
[14:44] <Tubby> a puny intel atom cpu
[14:45] <LjL> no dissing atoms, the universe is made up of them
[14:45] <Tubby> yeah, but Jesus created everything
[14:45] <LjL> well, you should ask forgiveness for dissing Jesus' atoms
[14:46] <Tubby> you should
[14:46] <LjL> but i did not diss them
[14:46] <Tubby> ban me?
[14:46] <LjL> i do however apologize for all the sins i can't even seem to admit i've committed
[14:46] <LjL> nah
[14:46] <ikonia> I've already repented
[14:47] <Tubby> pooooo
[14:47] <ikonia> I thought we'd covered this
[14:47] <LjL> i like this guy ;(
[14:47] <ikonia> he's saved my soul, so doing a great job
[14:47] <IdleOne> ikonia: you must repent every day
[14:47] <ikonia> I do repent each day, sometimes hourly
[14:47] <ikonia> I do a lot of wrong
[14:48] <IdleOne> I bet some of that wrong feels right
[15:45] <Pici> ikonia?
[15:45] <Pici> Whats wrong with wanting to replace windows?
[15:45] <ikonia> sending dcc spam to window #19 but forgot the /
[15:46] <ikonia> ooh you mean the guy wanting to replace windows the OS
[15:46] <ikonia> nothing wrong with wanting to replace windows at all, however doing a sloppy non-thought out job to get his son "up and running" is foolish
[15:47] <ikonia> more so as he's describing the laptop it may not be ubuntu friendly out of the box, and he's making his choice base on having only a 700mb dvd
[15:47] <ikonia> cd
[15:49] <Pici> I our place to judge whether someone wants to replace windows or not.
[15:49] <Pici> er
[15:49] <ikonia> not at all
[15:49] <ikonia> I'm not saying don't do it
[15:49] <Pici> I'm not sure if its really our place to... ^
[15:49] <jbroome> words
[15:49] <ikonia> I'm saying "I've only got a 700mb media" should not be the deciding factor of what/how you install linux
[15:50] <jbroome> well it certainly means you're not installing from a dvdr
[15:50] <Pici> It could be a deciding factor for a distro if they want linux but don't have any other install methods available.
[15:50] <ikonia> it needs to be thought out a bit more than "I want to install something that fits on a 700mb cd to fix my sons laptop)"
[15:50] <ikonia> if the windows install is "ok" then using that/fixing that will buy him time to do this properly
[15:51] <ikonia> rather than lose everything from his sons laptop or have compatability problems because he wants to do something that fits on a 700mb cd NOW !
[15:52] <Pici> IMHO, his motives are completely reasonable.
[15:52] <ikonia> I disagree, but I've told him that now and he can carry on rushing with no thought, backup or compatability checks and ruin his sons laptop
[15:53] <Pici> He hasn't said that he isn't doing that though.
[15:53] <ikonia> pretty much has
[15:54] <Pici> I disagree, but whatever.
[15:55] <ikonia> basing your distribution on what fits on a 700mb cd is not basing your distirbution on what is compatible with the kit, and as it's dying and has to be done "now" there is no backup plan, compatability checks etc etc etc
[16:01] <Pici> popey: If you have a sec, could you update (or at least suggest an update) to !screencast
[16:01] <popey> !screencast
[16:01] <popey> golly thats old
[16:02] <Pici> last edited on 2009-06-24 14:29:47
[16:02] <popey> hah
[16:02] <popey> before kazam or vokoscreen existed, and before xvidcap and recordmydesktop were dropped
[16:04] <popey> !screencast is <reply> Some programs to capture your screen are Kazam, Vokoscreen & Simple Screen Recorder. Also ffmpeg/libav with x11grab option on the command line.
[16:05] <popey> that look sane?
[16:05] <ikonia> given me some new things to try
[16:05] <ikonia> so I appreciate it
[16:05] <popey> \o/
[16:28] <Pricey> !screencast
[16:29]  * popey clearly can't drive the bot
[16:29] <Pricey> !screencast is <reply> Some programs to capture your screen are Kazam, Vokoscreen & Simple Screen Recorder. Also ffmpeg/libav with x11grab option on the command line. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[16:29] <Pricey> !-screencast
[16:29] <Pricey> !no screencast is <reply> Some programs to capture your screen are Kazam, Vokoscreen & Simple Screen Recorder. Also ffmpeg/libav with x11grab option on the command line. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[16:29] <Pricey> popey: Are you logged in? @login
[16:30] <popey> @login
[16:30] <popey> i wasn't, I guess ☻
[16:30] <popey> thanks Pricey
[16:30] <Pricey> But do you have edit rights now is the question?
[16:31] <Pricey> Ah yes you are in the editor list.
[17:03] <Tubby> ljl my tablet is better than yours
[17:03] <ikonia> super
[17:03] <Tubby> Mine is a 64 Core CPU, with 32GB Ram and Android 4.4
[17:03] <ikonia> sounds amazing
[17:04] <Tubby> each core runs at 9.6Ghz
[17:04] <ikonia> mind blowing
[17:05] <Tubby> My brain is quad core on 200Mg Caffiene and runs at 3.2Ghz
[17:05] <ikonia> I'll repent for that
[17:05] <Tubby> on 400MG Caffeine it is 9.6Ghz and 32 cores
[17:05] <ikonia> the bible says John 32:12 do not drink so much caffine
[17:06] <LjL> oh i didn't even tell him i just got a new smartphone, too
[17:06] <ikonia> bank that one for later
[17:06] <LjL> and by new i mean ridiculously old and used
[17:06] <ikonia> standard issue LjL new
[19:28]  * genii feeds the old quad core more caffeine
[20:37] <genii> Myrtti was swearing? What??
[20:38] <Myrtti> do you want me to continue? "BILATERAL TAX TREATY"
[20:39]  * genii covers his ears in horror!
[20:39] <knome> Myrtti, good luck...
[20:40] <genii> I'm just surprised because you are so well behaved normally.
[20:40] <Myrtti> "NONRESIDENT TAX CARD" "PROGRESSIVE TAX ASSESSMENT"
[20:42] <Myrtti> I've been cursing like a sailor for the whole day
[20:43] <Myrtti> not on Ubuntu IRC channels, mind
[20:44] <elky> with real swearwords or those adorable finnish ones? :P
[20:44] <knome> aborable?
[20:44] <knome> oh my...
[20:45] <Myrtti> do you want me to call you on skype and show you some adorable cursewords?
[20:45] <knome> show?
[20:45] <knome> hmm..
[20:45] <Myrtti> yes, show.
[20:45] <knome> i'll disqaulify myself from answering that question
[20:45] <Myrtti> because at this point of annoyance I've got a muscle twitch on my eyelid and the veins on neck are throbbing.
[20:46] <knome> maybe you should sleep the night
[20:46] <Myrtti> and I've been considering banging the wall with various implements for hours
[20:46] <Myrtti> maybe I should
[20:46] <knome> i hear you, i've done that few times and no good came out of it
[20:46] <Myrtti> but I've not had lunch yet.
[20:46] <knome> >__<
[20:46]  * elky cuddles Myrtti
[20:47] <Myrtti> I realise 2246 is late for lunch
[20:47] <Myrtti> but there we are
[20:47] <hggdh> well, it is lunch time somewhere else in the world, so you are covered
[20:49] <knome> it's not rare that i eat dinner after midnight
[20:49] <knome> so go for it :P
[20:50] <knome> eating helps for the frustration as well
[23:44] <LjL> ubuntu balkan, what could go wrong ;(
[23:48] <IdleOne>  do you speak balkanese?
[23:49] <glundgren> god, please, i've sinned... i spoke dirty language in the #ubuntu channel, forgive me
[23:49] <glundgren> :P
[23:49] <ikonia> please can you not forget the bit where you've been sending me abuse in pm too
[23:49] <glundgren> abuse?
[23:50] <glundgren> ikonia, you have my approval, you can paste what you considered abuse
[23:50] <glundgren> here
[23:51] <glundgren> in my point of view, i didnt abused you at all... i mean, youre a guy?
[23:51] <ikonia> 23:10 <glundgren> hey
[23:51] <ikonia> 23:10 <glundgren> whats your problem?
[23:51] <ikonia> 23:11 <glundgren> do you think that bash is a language from the gods that a few enlightened ones can talk?
[23:51] <ikonia> 23:33 <glundgren> whats wrong with you?
[23:51] <glundgren> if you are a girl im sorry
[23:51] <glundgren> for my language
[23:51] <ikonia> what does my sex have to do with anything
[23:51] <glundgren> everything?
[23:52] <ikonia> then you fail again
[23:52] <glundgren> no ikonia, im just trying to say, i was not abusive at all
[23:52] <glundgren> in private
[23:52] <ikonia> I've just pasted what I found unacceptable at your request
[23:53] <ikonia> along with your abuse in channel
[23:53] <glundgren> may i have opinion from other people? what you guys think?
[23:54] <ikonia> your attitude of "I'll talk to males how I want, but females I'm sorry" is also unacceptable
[23:54] <Jordan_U> glundgren: I agree that "what's your problem?" and "what's wrong with you?" are personal insults.
[23:55] <glundgren> jordan, i think i was saying whats your problem with me
[23:55] <glundgren> its because english is not my native language, as you guys can notice
[23:55] <ikonia> you seem to be able to communicate abuse like "fuck" quite clearly, and "males are ok to be rude to - females not"
[23:55] <ikonia> so your language excuse doesn't really wash with me
[23:56] <glundgren> im not excusing anything...
[23:56] <ikonia> well you just did
[23:56] <glundgren> im trying to show you that is not abuse
[23:56] <ikonia> you made an excuse that english is not your native language
[23:56] <ikonia> 23:35 <glundgren> dont be a dick, "dont swear" what kind of rule is this?
[23:56] <ikonia> 23:35 <glundgren> really man...
[23:56] <ikonia> 23:36 <glundgren> i dont have time to this
[23:56] <ikonia> your English seems fine
[23:56] <ikonia> so lets not pretend that's a problem
[23:56] <glundgren> ikonia: thanks :)
[23:57] <glundgren> ikonia: learn by myself
[23:57] <glundgren> better i've leanrt by myself
[23:57] <glundgren> but lets talk... ikonia, one thing i was talking to jordan
[23:58] <glundgren> is that in an international space, cultural differences must be understanded
[23:58] <ikonia> I'm not really interested in your technical problem
[23:58] <ikonia> that's not what this channel is for
[23:58] <glundgren> ikonia: you are being abusive
[23:58] <ikonia> as I'm quite sure Jordan_U explained to you before suggesting you join
[23:58] <glundgren> since you first started talking
[23:58] <ikonia> how am I being abusive to you ?
[23:59] <glundgren> ikonia: the last things you talked, right now
[23:59] <glundgren> for me its abusive
[23:59] <Jordan_U> glundgren: I understand (from your PMs with me) that you didn't know that the channel had guidelines at first. I thought that now that you do you could simply follow them, but it really does seem that you have a problem understanding what is and isn't appropriate.
[23:59] <glundgren> then...
[23:59] <ikonia> glundgren: I asked you not to use language like "fucked up" and you stated I should get a girlfriend
[23:59] <ikonia> lets be honest - you know what you are doing, you just don't want to behave


[10:23] <HayderCtee> hello
[10:27] <HayderCtee> any one here !
[10:34] <HayderCtee> i want to help in the graphical design
[14:09] <tkamppeter> mpt, hi


[02:11] <ChmEarl> now that policy shows: Candidate: 1.20.1-6ubuntu2
[02:11] <ChmEarl> mmdebstrap is working again after 3 days
[02:11] <ChmEarl> libgssapi-krb5-2
[02:12] <ChmEarl> ^ package stopping mmdebstrap
[11:33] <ice9> how to upgrade to 24.04 beta from 23.10 ?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> ice9: you wanna help testing a devel release?
[11:34] <ice9> lotuspsychje, yes, but only upgrade my current system,  I don't wanna make a fresh installation
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> ice9: if you agree this is for testing out, not the lts route
[11:35] <ice9> lotuspsychje, yes I see
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> sudo do-relase-upgrade -d
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:36] <ice9> lotuspsychje, it say there is no upgrades available
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> did you update your current system to latest ice9
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> ice9: the devs have recently been fixing things, its possible upgrades are closed maybe
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> beta was been delayed
[11:40] <ice9> "Upgrades to the development release are only available from the latest supported release"
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> you are on the latest
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> ice9: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/whats-happening-in-noble-repositories/43729/28
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> i filed bug #2060352
[11:57] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2060352 in terminator (Ubuntu) "Terminator cannot resize window anymore" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2060352
[22:00] <Smedles> getting the following with ubuntu server 24.04:
[22:00] <Smedles> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:00] <Smedles>  libevent-core-2.1-7t64 : Breaks: libevent-core-2.1-7 (< 2.1.12-stable-9ubuntu2)
[22:00] <Smedles> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[22:00] <Smedles> any fixes other than waiting for a fix?
[22:16] <tomreyn> Smedles: is libevent-core-2.1-7t64 from ubuntu archives?
[22:17] <Smedles> it should be :)
[22:17] <tomreyn> ah yes it is
[22:18] <tomreyn> so this is likely just a remainder of dependency breakage introduced by the xz-utils related package freeze
[22:19] <tomreyn> Smedles: so is libevent-core-2.1-7 version 2.1.12-stable-9ubuntu2 not available for you?
[22:22] <Smedles> yeah that's what I figured  was the cause
[22:22] <Smedles> I can installlibevent-core-2.1.7 but it  wants to remove  other packages..
[22:22] <Smedles> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:22] <Smedles>   byobu libevent-core-2.1-7t64 tmux ubuntu-server
[22:22] <Smedles> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[22:22] <Smedles>   libevent-core-2.1-7
[22:24] <tomreyn> i assume that's a "no" then
[22:27] <Smedles> apt  search shows:
[22:27] <Smedles> libevent-core-2.1-7/noble 2.1.12-stable-9 amd64
[22:27] <Smedles>   Asynchronous event notification library (core)
[22:27] <Smedles> libevent-core-2.1-7t64/noble,now 2.1.12-stable-9ubuntu2 amd64 [installed]
[22:27] <Smedles>   Asynchronous event notification library (core)
[22:29] <tomreyn> conly the t64 packages seem to exist in version 2.1.12-stable-9ubuntu2, and only in -proposed
[22:29] <tomreyn> actually, also in main
[22:29] <tomreyn> actually, also in release
[22:30] <tomreyn> just wait a couple days, i guess
[22:30] <tomreyn> should be resolved yb the time the beta releases
[22:38] <Smedles> cool


[02:56] <beuno> jenda, ping
[07:59] <jenda> beuno: pong
[09:18] <juliux> morning
[11:57] <juliux> hi gerr2
[11:57] <gerr2> morning
[12:02] <popey> hey-ho
[12:03] <juliux> gerr2, i am not sure if i can attend the meeting today
[12:03] <juliux> gerr2, i will try it but i cann't promise it
[12:33] <jenda> hey, juliux, gerr2
[12:33] <juliux> hi jenda
[12:34] <jenda> Sorry for not being around, I have an important exam in 6 days
[12:39] <juliux> jenda, if (learned) have fun; else good luck ;)
[12:41] <jenda> :D
[12:41] <jenda> aye aye
[01:33] <popey> ooo it's today isn't it?
[02:55] <gerr2> ahem, is anyone showing up?
[02:57] <juliux> gerr2, i hope but i can't promise , depends how long team meeting is here, it starts at 17:30 UTC+2
[02:57] <popey> i will be
[02:57] <popey> well, should be
[02:58] <popey> 5pm UK Time yes? I suggested to J'oho! that he should attend after his messages about parties
[05:17] <poningru_> when is the meeting?
[05:18] <elkbuntu> about 10-15 mins i guess
[05:23] <poningru_> sweet
[05:24] <juliux> i think in 40min
[05:24] <juliux> at 16:00UTC
[05:42] <beuno> sorry  :/
[05:42] <beuno> I'll be back in 2 hours aprox., I'll read the backlog
[06:02] <popey> moo
[06:03] <katkin_> Hi guys, Show of hands - who's here for the meeting?
[06:03] <elkbuntu> juliux, poningru
[06:04] <katkin_> Does everyone have access to the agenda?
[06:04] <katkin_> It was in the mail that Gerry sent out
[06:06] <elkbuntu> i do, but i think we ought to wait for others to arrive first
[06:06] <juliux> sorry we ahve still team meeting here
[06:06] <gerr2> ok can anyone attending please announce themselves as attending the meeting?
[06:06] <popey> yo
[06:07] <gerr2> what's a quorum? i see 3 so far  - elkbuntu, popningru, popey,
[06:07] <popey> i have pasted the agenda you sent to the list here:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meeting
[06:07] <popey> not sure we need to be quorate do we?
[06:08] <gerr2> well are many more likely to join I am wondering?
[06:08] <Vorian> *raises hand
[06:10] <gerr2> ok well let's start - can someone record these so if someone if interested they can read them?
[06:10] <gerr2> what canonical are doing
[06:11] <gerr2> we are going to get a countdown button and make it available to anyone that wants it to include on their sites and blogs
[06:11] <gerr2> this will countdown from Beta which is slated for 27th october to release so about 21 days
[06:12] <elkbuntu> so it will just count down the days?
[06:12] <gerr2> the image will be on our server so the piece of code will point it and stay updated each day
[06:12] <popey> 27 oct!? you sure about that?
[06:12] <gerr2> september
[06:12] <popey> release is 19th oct isn't it?
[06:12] <popey> phew
[06:13] <gerr2> elkbuntu: what else might it count down
[06:13] <popey> would be nice if it was an HH:MM:SS countdown
[06:13] <Vorian> +1
[06:13] <popey> then changes to a link to ubuntu.com/download when it gets to 00:00:00 :)
[06:13] <poningru_> yarr
[06:13] <popey> pretty simple to do in javascript
[06:13] <elkbuntu> popey, it's rather hard for that, since the time of release isnt exactly strictly set, afaik
[06:13] <poningru_> for the meeting
[06:13] <popey> elkbuntu: good point
[06:14] <gerr2> popey: that would kind of rely on us knowing the exact second of launch
[06:14] <popey> maybe it should be :)
[06:14] <elkbuntu> and trust me, we dont want hoards descending wanting something that we cant offer...
[06:14] <popey> ok, so days only
[06:14] <gerr2> dissemination though is my concern
[06:15] <gerr2> we can announce it here, put it ubuntu.com,mark's blog all that good stuff but anything else we ought to do?
[06:16] <elkbuntu> well, once it hits planet, it should go like wildfire
[06:16] <elkbuntu> but poking forums people might help
[06:17] <gerr2> elkbuntu: yeah, i think it might take care of itself
[06:17] <gerr2> but all helps
[06:17] <elkbuntu> yeah, the planet is a very powerful tool
[06:17] <gerr2> it's going to be designed, fyi, but our fancy new creative agency
[06:17] <gerr2> good test for them
[06:18] <elkbuntu> so long as it isnt in comic sans, i'll be happy no matter how it looks :
[06:18] <gerr2> katkin_: include that in the brief - NO COMIC SANS
[06:18] <popey> and it should be nice and easy to embed
[06:19] <gerr2> videos
[06:19] <katkin_> gerr2: will do :)
[06:19] <gerr2> there are two vids we have in mind
[06:19] <elkbuntu> gerr2, any design agency that even thinks about using comic sans ought to be given marching orders :)
[06:20] <gerr2> one is a groovy 90 second trip through fiesty
[06:20] <katkin_> gutsy
[06:20] <gerr2> gutsy sorry
[06:21] <gerr2> the next one
[06:21] <katkin_> don't look at me!
[06:21] <gerr2> whatever it's called
[06:21] <katkin_> we've had a hard day :)
[06:21] <gerr2> 7 something
[06:21] <popey> :)
[06:22] <popey> so will this be a real life video or more of a show and tell of the desktop?
[06:22] <popey> a "screencast" if you will?
[06:22] <gerr2> popey: anyhow  we want to include that on the front page so that people who are not going to download there and then will get a chance to have some experience of it
[06:22] <popey> excellent
[06:22] <katkin_> I think it will be more of a sexy show and tell
[06:22] <popey> excellent
[06:23] <gerr2> again - like all our wok this is might distributable and for all to include where they might find useful
[06:23] <gerr2> video the second
[06:23] <gerr2> have you all seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties?highlight=%28parties%29
[06:24] <gerr2> jono - put this up there  - anything that can be done to make this page well known the better
[06:24] <popey> it's a tricky one that
[06:25] <elkbuntu> he doesnt appear to be here...
[06:25] <popey> people all looking around at eachother "who's going to organise that then"
[06:25] <popey> he was in a call when i suggested he be here elkbuntu
[06:25] <popey> gerr2: i suspect people are talking about events in their teams but not updating that page
[06:25] <elkbuntu> is he surgically attached to phones or something?
[06:26] <jono> schnoogins :)
[06:26] <elkbuntu> well there's not a whole lot of a point to advertising something you dont have a venue for
[06:26] <elkbuntu> which is probably the reason why there arent many confirmed
[06:27] <popey> indeed
[06:28] <gerr2> elkbuntu: agreed  - i think it is early but i would hate for people to be organising it and not availing of Jono's wonderful page.
[06:28] <poningru_> gerr2, I say we use a better app
[06:28] <poningru_> like the firefox party app
[06:28] <poningru_> they released that under mpl
[06:28] <poningru_> my friend ryan did that one
[06:28] <gerr2> ***gerry was silent for a moment as he was editing that page
[06:28] <jono> whats the discussion?
[06:28] <popey> we could also use tools like upcoming.org and meetup ?
[06:29] <elkbuntu> jono, release parties
[06:29] <gerr2> as you can see we wold like people to send us video or photos of their parties and we will splice it together in a video for all to share
[06:29] <poningru_> http://www.firefoxparty.com/
[06:29] <popey> iirc sabdfl was at a meetup event in april to pimp the feisty release wasnt he?
[06:29] <poningru_> take a look at that
[06:29] <poningru_> I would like to use that web app for it
[06:30] <popey> poningru_: that looks cool!
[06:30] <jono> can I encourage everyone to raise the profile of the release parties pages I wrote
[06:31] <gerr2> ***gerry looks at jono
[06:31] <elkbuntu> haha
[06:31] <jono> gerr2: did I do something wrong?
[06:32] <poningru_> I say we do that
[06:32] <poningru_> though I cant host it on my home dsl
[06:32] <poningru_> I can administer it though
[06:32] <popey> poningru_: I'd gladly host it
[06:32] <gerr2> jono: can we use that app - would it help?
[06:32] <gerr2> the wiki seems to work ok for me?
[06:33] <popey> it's all web two point oh-y though
[06:33] <popey> rather than a stuffy old wiki ;)
[06:33] <jono> why do we need an app?
[06:33] <gerr2> jono: because it exists
[06:33] <popey> we don't _need_ an app
[06:33] <jono> teams are welcome to use whatever they like to organise parties, but I think we just need a page listing the parties
[06:33] <popey> how do we encourage people to organise parties?
[06:34] <popey> which I think is the key issue
[06:34] <elkbuntu> it would add an extra dimension to the parties scene. while we may not see a point, it might excite others greatly
[06:34] <popey> getting people to actually get off their arses and organise one
[06:34] <popey> elkbuntu +1
[06:34] <jono> sorry folks I need to run to a meeting now
[06:35] <jono> getting people off their arses to organise parties is something not solved with an app - that needs advocacy, blogging, positive reports of other planning etc
[06:35] <elkbuntu> jono, the point is that every little bit helps
[06:35] <Daviey> eloo
[06:36] <popey> Daviey: i saw uk loco were talking about a party for gutsy
[06:36] <gerr2> ok - guys there is possibly another meeting about launch party participation
[06:36] <popey> is that the case?
[06:36] <Daviey> popey: yes
[06:36] <popey> gerr2: indeed, and I would schedule it to happen in #ubuntu-meeting, and promote it on the fridge
[06:36] <gerr2> but i need to move on to next topic
[06:36] <popey> rather than just on the marketing mailing list
[06:36] <jono> I say we suggest people can use organisation apps if they want for their own organisation, but not to suggest it as part of the process of running a party
[06:36] <elkbuntu> gerr2, i think there'll need to be, and find some way of tying the community manager to attending would be good
[06:36] <Daviey> popey: But there is a big disagreement on where it should be ... Brum or London
[06:36] <popey> Daviey: have two
[06:36] <elkbuntu> bah, i was trying to not highlight you, and you're still here!
[06:37] <Daviey> popey: but i live equadistance between the two!
[06:37] <popey> flip a coin
[06:37] <popey> I will pay for beer for you!
[06:37] <popey> to attend the one I am not at :)
[06:37] <elkbuntu> lol
[06:37] <Daviey> $%^&^*
[06:37] <gerr2> London and I can go
[06:37] <jono> tying the community manager?
[06:37] <elkbuntu> such nice friends
[06:37] <jono> biab
[06:37] <elkbuntu> jono, so you dont run off to other meetings :)
[06:38] <jono> elkbuntu:  :)
[06:38] <Daviey> How can i make an offical complaint against a ubuntu member being offensive?
[06:38] <jono> I never knew about this meeting btw
[06:38] <popey> \o/
[06:38] <elkbuntu> makes talking to you a tad difficult
[06:38] <gerr2> [ACTION]  tie up jono
[06:38] <jono> well, it wasnt on my calendar
[06:38] <jono> hehe
[06:38] <popey> gerr2: shall we schedule a meeting and pimp it greatly?
[06:38] <elkbuntu> which is somewhat part of the solution
[06:38] <popey> specifically about this subject?
[06:38] <gerr2> right -  does anyone care about what we are doing to prevent the website crashing?
[06:38] <Daviey> fridge website?
[06:39] <popey> you cloned elmo?
[06:39] <popey> *shudder*
[06:39] <elkbuntu> popey, you are a horrible horrible man
[06:39] <elkbuntu> you even *thought* that
[06:39] <poningru_> lol
[06:39] <gerr2> is it sufficient to say it won't crash?
[06:39] <popey> i just pictured the cover of Being John Malkovich with lots of elmos
[06:40] <elkbuntu> gerr2, depends, is that in the tone of the titanic?
[06:41] <popey> gerr2: I wouldn't publicise it to be honest
[06:41] <popey> because if it did, the digg and /. crowd would rain down on you from on high
[06:41] <elkbuntu> yeah. last thing you want to do is ... challenge people
[06:41] <gerr2> elkbuntu: very good point - next topic
[06:42] <gerr2> press releases for the launch. We can make these available for localisation but I note we are all anglophone on this list so maybe not appropriate
[06:43] <popey> contact the loco list?
[06:43] <gerr2> ***gerry realises he has no idea where poningru is from
[06:43] <gerr2> popey: that's what I will do
[06:44] <gerr2> really? i'm too old for this IM stuff
[06:44] <Daviey> IM!
[06:44] <popey> heh
[06:44] <gerr2> IRC
[06:45] <popey> was all fields round here you know
[06:45] <elkbuntu> the problem with the loco list is that some on there may not be entirely trustworthy enough for the task of keeping to an embargo
[06:45] <Daviey> baa
[06:45] <Daviey> 'embargo'?
[06:46] <gerr2> elkbuntu: i don't think we would give it to them under embargo
[06:46] <elkbuntu> ah, right. i misunderstood then
[06:46] <gerr2> right - so anyone on the list got plans for launch?
[06:46] <elkbuntu> Daviey, the 'please dont send this out/pass this on, until $DATE'
[06:47] <Daviey> elkbuntu: What would be the problem if it got leaked?
[06:47] <Daviey> Surely the more exposure it gets, the better?
[06:47] <popey> Daviey: less impact
[06:47] <elkbuntu> im not in an ideal place for any decent sort of launch function, unfortunately
[06:47] <popey> dribble vs splash
[06:47] <popey> gerr2: I'd like to see a party in london, if the ubuntu-uk guys sort one in brum, I'd gladly help sort one in London
[06:47] <elkbuntu> Daviey, people coming in 6 hrs before the ISO is released, demanding it because some site said it was out
[06:47] <elkbuntu> in HOARDS
[06:47] <popey> that will happen anyway
[06:48] <Daviey> That _always_ happens
[06:48] <popey> but yes, we dont want to encourage it
[06:48] <gerr2> Daviey: the problem is hat we ask journalists to respect the embargo so we have time to brief them. if they hold off on the stories and it is then on someone's blog they are not very happy
[06:48] <elkbuntu> of course it does. the sotry always breaks embargo
[06:48] <elkbuntu> gerr2, embargo isnt really worth a whole lot, no
[06:49] <popey> there is nothing stopping the community making a press release
[06:49] <popey> surely?
[06:49] <popey> but is gerr2 not talking about a canonical press release?
[06:49] <elkbuntu> yes
[06:49] <gerr2> popey: gerr2 is or /me is
[06:49] <Daviey> Should a canonical press release concern the loco ML?
[06:50] <elkbuntu> Daviey, to have it translated, sure
[06:50] <gerr2> elkbuntu: exactly
[06:50] <Daviey> elkbuntu: why not use the LP transalters?
[06:50] <Daviey> salters eh?
[06:50] <elkbuntu> Daviey, because there'd be absolutely zero embargo with that
[06:51] <Daviey> I mean.. contact experienced translaters individually and ask them to do it
[06:51] <gerr2> Daviey: there is nothing to prevent a community announcement except not sure who could agree that it reflects the wide opinion of the community
[06:51] <popey> true
[06:51] <Daviey> gerr2: wiki snapshot ftw ;)
[06:52] <gerr2> Daviey: what?
[06:52] <Daviey> sorry.. If it is written on the wiki - and copied on a certain date.. It _may_ reflect more peoples opinions
[06:52] <gerr2> Daviey: i am staying well clear of it
[06:53] <Daviey> Is there an agenda for this meeting?
[06:54] <gerr2> popey: apart from having a party in london I mean are there other activities that the community would do/has done around launch where we could help or encourage?
[06:54] <popey> ahhh
[06:54] <popey> Daviey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meeting
[06:55] <popey> gerr2: tricky one
[06:55] <Daviey> a community photo competition.. been tried before i know - but with more 'exposure' (`scuse the phun)
[06:55] <popey> personally I'm doing my bit ;) - the screencasts are designed to lead up to launch
[06:56] <popey> unfortunately I'm not a marketeer so I'm probably not the best one to ask about how best to market the product in the community
[06:56] <elkbuntu> community photo things are great for people who will have parties near them. should we not think about some other way those more remote can contribute to the spirit, rather than sit back and watch everyone else having the fun?
[06:57] <Daviey> elkbuntu: any suggestions?
[06:58] <elkbuntu> Daviey, i was hoping to get some from you guys
[06:58] <katkin_> we could ask people to send us photos of the most interesting places that they are downloading gutsy
[06:58] <gerr2> elkbuntu: the most remote? the highest? the driest? the wettest?
[06:58] <katkin_> or in the loo?
[06:59] <popey> yeah, categories tham
[06:59] <katkin_> thats a good idea
[06:59] <popey> competitions..
[06:59] <katkin_> maybe not wettest though
[06:59] <popey> free stuff!
[06:59] <Daviey> sabdfl will no doubt go back to space to win the competition
[06:59] <katkin_> wouldn't want people electrocuting themselves
[06:59] <gerr2> the meeting rooms in canonical towers are named after the most extreme places on earth so there is a link
[07:00] <popey> "Extreme Ubuntu!"

[07:06] <Daviey> s/do/to
[07:06] <katkin_> I'm earning my creative marketing pennies then :)
[07:06] <elkbuntu> um.. that's hardly a positive enforcement there
[07:06] <katkin_> not sure what will happen when Hardy Heron launches . . . . . .
[07:06] <popey> wonder how many people would class "sitting outside my neighbours house stealing his wifi" as gutsy
[07:06] <elkbuntu> we want downloading to seem easy and friendly, not scary and nervewracking
[07:06] <Daviey> popey: That's your everyday net connection, is it not?
[07:07] <katkin_> popey: some I'm sure
[07:07] <Daviey> Does a 'difficult' download show that it's worth DL'ing?
[07:07] <gerr2> Extreme Ubuntu gives us lots of winners
[07:07] <poningru_> sorry guys at work
[07:07] <gerr2> driest highest lowest wierdest
[07:07] <poningru_> so coming in and out
[07:07] <popey> yeah
[07:08] <katkin_> gutsyest
[07:08] <popey> be nice if there was a site we could have people upload their pics too
[07:08] <popey> and tag them
[07:08] <popey> "fast" "high" etc
[07:08] <katkin_> we could offer vouchers for the store as prizes
[07:08] <katkin_> unless you guys have other ideas?
[07:08] <popey> ooooo.. nice idea
[07:08] <gerr2> and pay the shipping:)
[07:08] <popey> that would go down well :)
[07:08] <katkin_> :D
[07:09] <elkbuntu> yep
[07:09] <gerr2> I suggest we devise 8 categories and 2 wild cards
[07:09] <popey> should we setup a little site where people can upload their pics
[07:09] <popey> some people wont want to put them on flickr etc
[07:09] <elkbuntu> katkin_, also remember that nearly any item with Mark's signature on it will attract interest
[07:10] <popey> heh, or anything mark has breathed near
[07:10] <katkin_> elkbuntu: noted
[07:11] <popey> now here's a tricky problem
[07:11] <popey> if we want them to photo themselves downloading...
[07:11] <katkin_> elkbuntu: I'll see if I can get him to sign, lick or rub some merchandise
[07:11] <popey> the photos wont be available until after the release
[07:11] <katkin_> that's ok
[07:11] <gerr2> ok  - I am going to put up a wiki page linked off launch parties
[07:11] <popey> so you'd need to announce this on the day of release
[07:11] <elkbuntu> katkin_, if it involves licking, we want photos to laugh at
[07:11] <katkin_> or before so people can start preparing?
[07:12] <popey> yeah, true
[07:12] <gerr2> popey: not at all. we want people to start thinking about it.
[07:12] <popey> would be nice if it was a separate site, with picture upload, tagging and commenting
[07:12] <katkin_> i agree
[07:12] <katkin_> it should be separate to the launch parties section
[07:12] <popey> howgutsyareyou.com or something
[07:13] <gerr2> popey: for the moment i am going to put up a wiki where us marketing (ie. me kat and al on the list) can sort out some details
[07:13] <popey> cool
[07:13] <gerr2> that is all on the list  - not al specifically
[07:14] <gerr2> i gots to run. i think extreme ubuntu might come off;
[07:14] <katkin_> me too
[07:14] <elkbuntu> so long as it does better than that poor effort LUGradio did...
[07:14] <katkin_> thanks very much for coming veryone
[07:15] <elkbuntu> katkin_, no problem
[07:15] <katkin_> it would be great if we could all have a meeting every month :)
[07:15] <katkin_> it's great getting your input
[07:15] <katkin_> Have a great day/evening (depending on where you are)
[07:16] <popey> i would recommend you schedule the meeting now
[07:16] <elkbuntu> lol
[07:16] <popey> many teams schedule their next meeting at the end of the last one
[07:16] <popey> bum
[07:18] <Daviey> Photo's could be of the RC?
[07:19] <Daviey> wonder what the community manager thinks of all this?
[08:18] <poningru_> hey
[08:18] <poningru_> so what happened
[08:19] <poningru_> OMG
[08:19] <poningru_> http://lwn.net/Articles/248227/
[08:30] <tristanbob> poningru: wow - that is TERRIFIC if true
[08:31] <gerr2> tristanbob: it's true
[08:33] <tristanbob> so they are creating new drivers from scratch (because of licensing?)
[08:36] <gerr2> tristanbob: i just realised that the release is not official yet or at least I have not seen it publically so I can't talk about it
[08:37] <tristanbob> gerr2: are you saying you have more info, but can't talk until it is publicly announced?
[08:40] <poningru_> oh man I wonder when it becomes public
[08:41] <poningru_> gerr2, when is the hold till?
[08:43] <juliux> gerr2, sorry that i missed the meeting
[09:08] <gerr2> g'night all


[16:12] <hallyn> thinkpad t440s  4.2.0-10-generic #12-Ubuntu  - my pointing stick stopped working :(
[16:22] <hallyn> hm, reboot fixed it.  (previous was a boot from shutdown)
[23:47] <jtaylor> hi, the vivid proposed kernel is randomly crashing with null pointer dereferences
[23:47] <jtaylor> whats the place to report that? a new bug or the tracking bug 1493902?
[23:47] <jtaylor> its quite rare, only every couple hours


[05:16] <key> e
[05:19] <sirKrono> ku
[06:06] <slyde> i have no flash player
[06:06] <slyde> plzz help
[06:07] <valorie> slyde: what exactly is going on?
[06:07] <slyde> i cant watch vids   period
[06:07] <valorie> what version of kubuntu are you running, did flash used to work, did you recently update, etc. etc.
[06:08] <valorie> vids work here
[06:08] <slyde> updated everything kubuntu 14.4
[06:08] <valorie> 14.04, or 14.10?
[06:09] <valorie> there is no 14.4
[06:09] <slyde> 14.10
[06:09] <valorie> ok
[06:09] <slyde> oopps
[06:09] <valorie> ?
[07:21] <soee> good morning
[09:52] <jeroen7s> hey
[09:54] <jeroen7s> does anyone else have issues with the nvidia drivers on plasma5? it just doesn't seem to work on nvidia, but nouveau seems to work fine
[09:57] <lordievader> jeroen7s: On my ancient nVidia card the closed source driver didn't work either.
[09:58] <soee> jeroen7s: do you have only nvidia card or are we talking about optimus ?
[13:17] <kass> hi , I need help , I can't send messages to #vim , [404] kass #vim Cannot send to channel .
[13:18] <bshah> kass: you need to register your nick to talk on #vim
[13:19] <kass> bshah:plz , how do I registre .
[13:20] <bshah> kass: that is already in channel topic for vim : "Can't Talk? Get Registered on FreeNode (HOWTO: http://ur1.ca/90niw) "
[13:20] <kass> bshah:thank you soooo much :)
[13:21] <bshah> kass: good note for next time, when you join any IRC channel read topic first..
[13:26] <kass> bshah:noted .
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:02] <lfrlucas> Look how I found kde on kubuntu server today: http://pasteboard.co/15B6CGgI.png
[16:05] <likemindead> Long time Xubunu user here. Trying Kubuntu 15.04 out. Loving it thus far. Is there a preferred package manager I can install?
[16:11] <MoonUnit`> no idea about preferred, personal choice is synaptic
[16:12] <likemindead> I've used synaptic plenty. Didn't know if there was a KDE-specific one.
[16:12] <soee> likemindead: use muon
[16:16] <likemindead> soee: "sudo apt-get install muon" ?
[16:16] <soee> yup
[16:16] <likemindead> Thanks.
[16:18] <MoonUnit`> couldn't get on with muon, when searching for things didn't seems to show everything.
[16:21] <lordievader> MoonUnit`: That is because Muon isn't a package manager, it's a software center.
[16:21] <lordievader> There is a Muon package manager which is pretty much just a front-end for apt.
[16:22] <likemindead> Any idea why I'm getting these errors with "sudo apt-get update" ? https://paste.kde.org/pvkx2rhvu
[16:24] <Basstard`> lordievader: muon is a packagemanager. muon-discover is a softwarecenter.
[16:24] <MoonUnit`> have 3 repos that don't update when i try out vivid, it's not even beta yet.
[16:24] <likemindead> Ah.
[16:25] <MoonUnit`> don't update debcore yet, you'll get an error
[16:26] <MoonUnit`> i forget the full name
[16:27] <MoonUnit`> ahh debconf,  libdebconf-kde1 won't install on vivad atm
[16:27] <MoonUnit`> *vivid
[16:28] <MoonUnit`> unmet dependancies
[16:30] <lordievader> Basstard`: Ah, am I mixing things up.
[16:32] <MoonUnit`> looks like someone has reported it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1421480
[16:33] <soee> it has been fixed already
[16:33] <soee> just do: #sudo apt update
[16:33] <soee> and #sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:35] <MoonUnit`> still failing for me, update then dist-upgrade.
[16:35] <MoonUnit`> unmet dependancies
[16:35] <soee> maybe you are using some mirror not main server and updates are not there yet for you
[16:36] <MoonUnit`> updates are from ubuntu.com
[16:36] <MoonUnit`> gb archive
[16:38] <MoonUnit`> i'll try again later then
[16:43] <amr_> hi
[16:48] <amr_> hi
[16:48] <amr_> hi
[16:48] <amr_> hi
[17:06] <lordievader> Hey amr_
[17:06] <amr_> how are you
[17:23] <rydhwan> Hey all
[17:23] <rydhwan> am in vivid plasma5 15.04
[17:24] <soee> hi rydhwan :)
[17:24]  * genii slides rydhwan a fresh coffee
[17:24] <soee> rydhwan: how do you like it ?
[17:24] <rydhwan> nice
[17:25] <rydhwan> good job
[17:25] <Denza252> I'm in plasma5 backported
[17:25] <rydhwan> future of linux
[17:25] <Denza252> ^
[17:25] <soee> :)
[17:26] <rydhwan> plasma5 backported  in bebian ?
[17:27] <rydhwan> plasma5 backported  in debian ?
[17:28] <rydhwan> Dependencie problem libdebconf-kde1 Kubuntu Vivid Plasma Desktop
[17:28] <soee> rydhwan: it is known https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1421480
[17:28] <soee> and as i said before i think it is already fixed
[17:28] <soee> just wait for updates
[17:29] <rydhwan> ok thanks
[17:29] <Denza252> rydhwan:  backported to Utopic
[17:29] <Denza252> via some PPA or the other
[17:29] <Denza252> I've lost track
[17:35] <lordievader> !pm| amr_
[17:35] <lordievader> amr_: Install the language pack of your choice.
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> how can I print in Plasma 5?
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> the KCM does not appear in system settings
[17:38] <soee> ovidiu-florin: type: kcmshell4 kcm_printer_manager
[17:38] <ovidiu-florin> soee: thank you
[17:40] <amr_> i canot add languages   on  my linux kubuntu
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> amr_: what have you tried?
[17:42] <amr_> i add arabic and english i turn between them but english is always woorking
[17:43] <ovidiu-florin> amr_: have you logged in again?
[17:44] <amr_> you mean restart
[17:44] <ovidiu-florin> no, just log off and log in again
[17:44] <amr_> how
[17:45] <ovidiu-florin> if you restarted, that's good enough
[17:46] <ovidiu-florin> how did you install the language pack?
[17:47] <amr_> i opened input method and hose to add language
[17:49] <Basstard`> Will kde-workspace (and related) be updated, and continue to be updated, further than 4.11.11 for 14.04? kde-workspace 4.11.12 fixes the screenlocker: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331761
[20:29] <lesshaste> kile crashes every time at startup but says there are no debug symbols installed. This is on ubuntu 14.04. What can I do?
[21:23] <Banonym> Hello
[22:44] <Walex> Basstard`: DE screenlockers are usually buggy and insecure. The only screenlocker that is trustworthy is the one in 'xscreensaver'.


[14:15] <sauce> hey smoser
[15:52] <smoser> sauce, here now .
[15:52] <smoser> whats up?
[15:52] <sauce> just saying hey
[15:52] <sauce> cloud-init is such a joy
[15:52] <smoser> :) thanks.
[15:52] <smoser> feel free to say "but it could be better if .... "
[15:52] <sauce> i've been using ubuntu 12.04 LTS AMI, which comes with cloud-init pre installed
[15:52] <sauce> well, all i use it for is 1 thing: configuring puppet.  puppet handles the rest
[15:53] <sauce> i probably don't need the complication of puppet in my setup but i enjoy using it


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[06:22] <cpaelzer_> vorlon: I'll indeed work around #195143 in libvirt, for now all I need from the SRU team is awareness of the issue in case more show up
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[11:50] <RikMills> after 5am today, normally britney runs don't appear to be running
[11:51] <RikMills> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/jammy/2021-11-22/
[11:51] <RikMills> *normal
[11:51] <cjwatson> May correlate with ftpmaster crashing around that time
[11:52] <cjwatson> 17187 05:16:01 /bin/sh -c PYTHONPATH=/home/ubuntu-archive/python:$PYTHONPATH archive-reports
[11:52] <cjwatson> 17188 05:16:01  \_ /bin/sh /home/ubuntu-archive/bin/archive-reports
[11:52] <cjwatson> 30280 05:40:36      \_ rsync -aq --include germinate.output --exclude _* --exclude *.new --include *_jammy_* --exclude * --delete --delete-excluded ftpmaster.internal::ubuntu-germinate/ /home/ubuntu
[11:52]  * cjwatson kills that so it can recover
[11:52] <RikMills> thanks!
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[12:08] <RikMills> and looks like we have a normal run underway :)
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[14:21] <seb128> xnox, vorlon, sil, could one of you add me to the ~ubuntu-installer team (perhaps as admin?), I think at this point it would make sense if it's easier for us in desktop to land our fixes to ubiquity without having to gate by foundations
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[14:33] <xnox> seb128:  all ubuntu core devs have push rights to ubiquity
[14:33] <xnox> seb128: for like years
[14:34] <xnox> seb128:  the only thing that ubuntu-installer team gains one is thousands of emails of spam of all the bug reports one needs to filter.
[14:34] <xnox> seb128:  there might be some repos that don't have ubuntu-core-dev as committers but they are niche.
[14:34] <seb128> xnox, I'm trying to push to lp:~ubuntu-installer/apt-setup and I'm getting a permission denied?
[14:35] <seb128> xnox, trying to land https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/apt-setup/+git/apt-setup/+merge/412219 to fix ubiquity
[14:35] <xnox> seb128:  aha, i see.
[14:36] <seb128> xnox, is that supposed to work?
[14:36] <xnox> seb128:  that's broken. sorry, and yes that is the right way to land that.
[14:36] <xnox> seb128:  let me add you to installer team => beware of the incoming spam. and then will think about how to fix the permissions.
[14:36] <seb128> xnox, thanks
[14:36] <xnox> the idea was that any core-dev should be able to land all the ubuntu-installer stuff, without email spam.
[14:37] <seb128> maybe we need to edit the d-i component the same way you did for ubiquity
[14:37] <xnox> yeah.
[14:37] <seb128> allow coredev to push to master
[14:37] <xnox> seb128:  you are added now.
[14:37] <seb128> xnox, thanks!
[14:37] <xnox> it's more than just push; cause it's also to create tags;
[14:37] <xnox> but also have like ~canonical-foundations able to force-push and move things; such that there is a pool of people to fix things up.
[14:38] <xnox> seb128:  sorry about all of this =/
[14:38] <seb128> xnox, no worry
[14:38] <seb128> thanks for being responsive and giving me the permissions :)
[14:44] <sil2100> What's up?
[14:48] <xnox> sil2100:  sorted
[14:56] <cjwatson> Should just be a matter of "Manage permissions" on each of the repositories.
[14:56] <cjwatson> cf. https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+permissions
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[15:03] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks
[15:04] <seb128> unsure if having foundations having extra right over coredev makes sense?
[15:13] <seb128> sil2100, cjwatson, any objection to migrate langpack-o-matic to git? I just did an import and pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/langpack-o-matic/+git/langpack-o-matic and it seems straightforward and without issue, if you think it's ok I will deprecate the bzr and change the checkout on the server
[15:17] <cjwatson> seb128: No objection
[15:28] <xnox> sil2100:  vorlon: Given Chinese New Year is 1st February; and Public Holiday dates are 29th January .. 6 February. Does the point release on the 10th of February at all doable?
[15:28] <xnox> Given that the week before if we have RCs we will not be able to test them with taiwan lab.
[15:31] <juliank> The OpenSSL 3.0 transition has started \o/
[15:32] <ginggs> \o/
[15:33]  * schopin ---> []
[15:33] <xnox> whoop whoop
[15:33] <xnox> sil2100:  added https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906 chinese new year; and 20.04.4 release on the Jammy schedule as well.
[15:33] <xnox> cause it looks like february will be busy busy busy busy
[15:34] <juliank> ok now it is :D
[15:34] <juliank> stupid merges and their missing tarballs
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[16:20] <ricotz> hello :), please retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsemanage/3.3-1/+build/22439276
[16:24] <ginggs> ricotz: .
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[16:41] <ricotz> ginggs, ty
[16:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openssl [amd64] (jammy-proposed/main) [3.0.0-1ubuntu1] (core, i386-whitelist)
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[17:11] <seb128> sil2100, could you check the ubiquity build, I think the issue is following your console-setup merge
[17:17] <juliank> who's gonna approve the openssl 3.0 binaries? :D
[17:23] <ricotz> please approve the new packages for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secilc/3.3-1/+build/22383491
[17:23] <ricotz> oops, wrong link https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsemanage/3.3-1
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: phonopy [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [2.12.0-1] (no packageset)
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[17:26] <seb128> ricotz, accepted
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[17:58] <ricotz> seb128, ty
[18:20] <juliank> Sometimes I wonder if we could have a sponsoring queue where everyone could upload to and ~ubuntu-sponsors could then approve from, vs using bug reports
[18:20] <juliank> bug the security implications!
[18:21] <juliank> s/wonder/wish/
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[20:31] <ricotz> could someone sponsor rebuilds of shadow and sssd for libsemanage2 transition? those will have to be done in a confined environment without jammy-proposed and with libsemanage 3.3-1 present -- https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=jammy - https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/auto-libsemanage.html
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[21:14] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, I failed to parse, please tell me, should I just grab the two dsc and upload?
[21:22] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, the presence of libsemanage2 "breaks" the build chroot, the linked builds in my PPA are not built correctly :(
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[21:24] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, what is the fix then?
[21:25] <LocutusOfBorg> kick libsemanage2 out from jammy proposed? do it on bileto?
[21:25] <LocutusOfBorg> fix the tools to use libsemanage2?
[21:26] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, the source packages should be correct, yeah, probably something like that is needed
[21:26] <ricotz> to get out of conflict
[21:26] <LocutusOfBorg> kicking it our requires ubuntu-archive, not a sponsor :/
[21:27] <ricotz> vesioned hard-deps on *-common are always calling for trouble
[21:28] <ricotz> (libsemanage-common here)
[21:29] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, :( https://tracker.debian.org/news/1273374/accepted-libsemanage-31-2-source-into-unstable/
[21:33] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, so bileto should work, if pushing a modified 3.1-1ubuntu3 first to it?
[21:34] <ricotz> of libsemanage
[21:34] <ricotz> without kicking anything
[21:39] <LocutusOfBorg> it would work yes
[21:39] <LocutusOfBorg> as long as the version is higher w.r.t. the one in the archive
[21:39] <LocutusOfBorg> but don't use "ubuntu" if the delta will disappear after rebuilds are done
[21:39] <LocutusOfBorg> better use buildN
[21:39] <LocutusOfBorg> look e.g. my node-* foo bootstrap bileto https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4721/+packages
[21:40] <LocutusOfBorg> I use build so they gets autosyncd again
[21:40] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, I can prep a PPA if that helps
[21:40] <LocutusOfBorg> sure
[21:41] <ricotz> the libsemanage 3.1 package won't need sponsoring, just need to present at buildtime
[21:41] <LocutusOfBorg> it can be deleted before sponsoring then
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[21:49] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/libsemanage/+packages
[21:53] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, I think the version should be 3.3-1build1
[21:53] <LocutusOfBorg> otherwise it won't be higher than the one in proposed
[21:54] <LocutusOfBorg> or do you want a bileto with released-only packages enabled?
[21:55] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, the package just serves to override the libsemanage1 binary, I built this libsemanage package without -proposed to be sure
[21:56] <LocutusOfBorg> don't forget that I can't copy binaries from ppa to bileto
[21:56] <ricotz> I will enable -proposed and copy the shadow/sssd rebuilds to that PPA
[21:56] <LocutusOfBorg> so, everything should be replicable on bileto
[21:56] <ricotz> yes
[22:00] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, you can disable/enable -proposed for bileto between builds?
[22:00] <LocutusOfBorg> yes I can
[22:00] <ricotz> ok
[22:06] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, the rebuild logs looking good now :)
[22:07] <vorlon> debugging opencv on armhf is going to take quite a while if every commit in the git bisect ftbfs in a different way. >_<
[22:33] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, is there anything I can still do?
[22:36] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, tell me exactly what should I do
[22:36] <LocutusOfBorg> 1) create bileto with release only pocket
[22:37] <LocutusOfBorg> 2) copy your 3 sources there
[22:37] <ricotz> 1) yes
[22:37] <LocutusOfBorg> 3) delete libsemanage package
[22:37] <LocutusOfBorg> 4) enable proposed
[22:37] <ricotz> 2) only libsemanage
[22:37] <ricotz> then enable proposed and copy shadow/sssd
[22:38] <ricotz> after those built delete libsemanage
[22:39] <ricotz> so libsemanage needs to be built and published before proceeding with shadow/sssd
[22:54] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, EOD here, I will need to go now, thank you for dealing with this
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