[12:13] <lu-bao> when i have to reinstall OS so that i dont need internet connection but that i can restore everything back after a fresh new install from DVD :)
[12:13] <yaccin> how can i get the butons on the sides of my mouse working?
[12:13] <cpk1> lu-bao: also I think there is a way to back up your cache to cd
[12:14] <uranther> i love how removing one package subsequently removes another 70 or so packages without telling me
[12:14] <uranther> now i have to reinstall all this shit over again
[12:14] <cpk1> lu-bao: to do what you are talking about all you would have to do is put your backup into the cache and tell aptitude to not fetch anything
[12:14] <lu-bao> cpk1, yes i can burn my archives folder but i will do that first time when it reaches a bigger size and when its patched at  best state and i have everything on it i need :)
[12:15] <cpk1> uranther: I am pretty sure all the APT frontends ask if you are sure before it does anything destructive
[12:15] <uranther> adept didn't just now
[12:15] <Mattias> !baghira
[12:15] <cpk1> adept does, you need to click show changes
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <yaccin> uranther: izt shows how much it delets in the status bar
[12:16] <yaccin> and theres always "preview changes"
[12:16] <Mattias> anyone knows how to configure baghira easy for kubuntu?
[12:16] <uranther> well i wasn't expecting it to do that
[12:16] <uranther> so i didn't preview changes
[12:16] <cpk1> lu-bao: basically though using dpkg is the hardway to do it =)
[12:16] <uranther> there's not cancel button either
[12:16] <uranther> and my openoffice still doesn't work
[12:16] <yaccin> !mouse
[12:16] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:16] <lu-bao> at most i would love to build my own DVD with all software i need and packages too so that i never need internet again for restore my system with all configures i wanted :)
[12:16] <lontra> anyone know if there are tastymenu debs available?
[12:16] <yaccin> i did one
[12:17] <yaccin> where can i host it?
[12:17] <lontra> for the lastest version?
[12:17] <yaccin> oh
[12:17] <yaccin> i dont know if it works
[12:17] <yaccin> it should
[12:17] <yaccin> tastymenu_0.6.5-2_i386.deb
[12:17] <uranther> i looked in the bugzilla
[12:17] <uranther> and it said remove any accessibility packages
[12:17] <lontra> yaccin: yup
[12:17] <uranther> and it will fix the openoffice problem
[12:18] <lontra> yaccin: you could email it? or send it to me over irc?
[12:18] <lu-bao> cpk1, yeah but i can write a script what dpkgs everything *gg* so that it installs everything on the fly then after installing the main dvd of ubuntu :) sure its not the latest patched version out of the internet since its a backup of cached installfiles but it restores everything how i need it without that i have to remember what i had installed before :)
[12:19] <yaccin> lol
[12:19] <cpk1> lu-bao: you dont even need a script, just put the debs into your cache and tell aptitude to not download anything...
[12:19] <yaccin> sending files crashes konversation ^^
[12:19] <yaccin> ah one moment
[12:19] <lu-bao> cpk1, never did that before could get hard :)
[12:21] <yaccin> lontra: ill upload it
[12:21] <lontra> ok
[12:21] <lu-bao> cause when ubuntu after 4 years is outdated (my version) i still can restore everything how it was so that i can use my notebook with all programs :) just want to get the safe way :)
[12:22] <matyasi> hello! could someone help me to set up wpa_supplicant? I tried to understand its man pages, but still seems not to work.
[12:22] <yaccin> lu-bao: ever heard of dist-upgrade?
[12:22] <bianconeri> Hello I am trying to install battleball (a game) using aptitude...it says that it will need to install the package but remove around 150 others on my system, most of them have no relation to battleball :S
[12:22] <yaccin> ^^
[12:22] <lu-bao> yaccin, mh um yes i did ^^"
[12:22] <yaccin> lontra: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/
[12:23] <lu-bao> and that it loves to break systems :D
[12:23] <lu-bao> your dist upgrade :P
[12:23] <lontra> yaccin: thanks :)
[12:23] <lontra> yaccin: i'll test it
[12:23] <yaccin> lu-bao: you sure youve done it right?
[12:23] <bianconeri> any idea what the problem may be?
[12:23] <lu-bao> yaccin, i am sure i never did that before but others did and they screamed like hell later *fg* lol
[12:24] <yaccin> 1. edit sources.list 2. update 3. dist-upgrade 4. install kubuntu-desktop 5. upgrade (repeat as often as neccessery) 6. force isntall other new packages 7. reboot
[12:24] <yaccin> worked for me every time
[12:24] <lu-bao> sooo um but look what happens later when kubuntu will not support my videochip anymore of my notebook i have to stay at my kubuntu version cause this one includes via cle266 drivers ^^"
[12:24] <yaccin> lontra: tell me if it works ^^
[12:24] <cpk1> bianconeri: i just installed battleball without any problems
[12:25] <cpk1> bianconeri: what does it want to remove and have you been using another package manager like adept?
[12:25] <yaccin> lu-bao: dont know ^^
[12:25] <lu-bao> yaccin, its just that i need this kubuntu version what supports my 3D onboard chip but i need ftp / browser and other clients too like irc client cause that i need to backup my cache :)
[12:26] <yaccin> well you are not forced to upgrade ^^
[12:26] <piro> is it possible to hotswap sata drives?
[12:26] <piro> does the libata do that now?
[12:26] <cpk1> lu-bao: most likely there will always be legacy drivers, but its not going to remove the drivers you currently have unless it has ones it can replace them with
[12:26] <lu-bao> yes but later i surely wont get packages again (for the old kubuntu then) what works at my laptop :/
[12:26] <yaccin> lontra: hmm i think it doesnt work, does it?
[12:26] <yaccin> lu-bao: thats true
[12:26] <yaccin> but as it works... :)
[12:27] <lu-bao> later maybe some browsers need newer dependencies i dont have inside my (then) old kubuntu version
[12:27] <j__> Can anyone tell me what the X server actually is? Is it KDE?
[12:27] <bianconeri> cpk1: I used apt-get before but mostly been doing aptitude (a no no?)....also used automatix2
[12:27] <lu-bao> and when kubuntu stops to support my via cle266 videochip i have to stay at this one :)
[12:27] <yaccin> !X
[12:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:27] <Admiral_Chicago> j__: no it's a graphic handler
[12:27] <uranther> !openoffice
[12:27] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:27] <Adydas> j__: are you using kubunut or ubuntu
[12:27] <j__> Kubuntu
[12:27] <Adydas> then its KDE based
[12:28] <j__> I need to install nvidia drivers for my old Geforce3 and it says I need to stop X
[12:28] <cpk1> bianconeri: well automatix is a no-no
[12:28] <lu-bao> okay i bet youre are right and i am just freakish paranoid X.x
[12:28] <j__> Thanks guys
[12:28] <bianconeri> ya I knew that, I just needed an operatable system fast ....I usually don't use it
[12:29] <lu-bao> i cant see that far into future cant say what is then maybe i got a newer laptop till then :>
[12:29] <trav> hello, how do i get past the email set up in evolution?
[12:30] <cpk1> bianconeri: if you are feeling adventurous you can let aptitude fix everything (copy down everything it removes) and then try installing those again, however once when I tried isntalling stuff with adept it freaked aptitude out and I let remove some 200 odd packages and it sorted everything out for me somehow...
[12:30] <lu-bao> how to check my version?
[12:30] <yaccin> !deb
[12:30] <bianconeri> hmm lemme share with you the output then maybe you could detect something i couldnt http://pastebin.ca/366861
[12:30] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:30] <cpk1> bianconeri: also, as far as I know automatix doesnt do anything that you cant do in 15 minutes
[12:31] <BluesKaj> automatix is easy but it also breaks pkgs
[12:31] <cpk1> lol my kde kicker just crashed...
[12:31] <lu-bao> at ubuntu i can doubleclick .deb files for install and at kubuntu i have to rightclick them?
[12:32] <bianconeri> cpk1 I have always been installing stuff on *ubuntu by myself...its just that other day spent a good 5 hours on configuring (low speed net)....only for me breaking the system 1 hour later...I got fed up and took the easy way out
[12:32] <carlos_> hola
[12:32] <BluesKaj> how does kwallet work ?
[12:32] <bianconeri> BluesKaj: can you be more specefic?
[12:32] <cpk1> everytime you want something to use a saved form you need to have it be open
[12:33] <bianconeri> It just saves your password
[12:33] <BluesKaj> i don't see how it replaces the need for pws
[12:33] <Adydas> it saves them not replace them
[12:33] <tuco> Hiyo all.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> still have to enter the pw
[12:33] <Adydas> for the wallet, not each program etc
[12:33] <cpk1> BluesKaj: because you only need one for kwallet and you can save many different passwords for different things
[12:34] <BluesKaj> not in a multiuser situation
[12:34] <bianconeri> cpk1 did you see my pastebin?
[12:34] <vrkhans> i having problem in partioning my hard dirve
[12:35] <yaccin> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:35] <yaccin> :/
[12:35] <Adydas> you need to install c++ or g++ i had that, forgot what one
[12:35] <Adydas> sudo apt-get install c++ cpp
[12:35] <yaccin> oh true
[12:35] <Adydas> its one of those 2 /3 combos
[12:35] <tuco> I need to install Flash Player for Firefox. I went into the guide but got lost.
[12:35] <cpk1> bianconeri: your right, those have nothing to do with battleball and it probably is confused because not all your stuff was installed with aptitude so it didnt mark or somesuch, aptitude is actually kind of complex, those are probably all in your cache though and you could probably reinstall them right away if you decide to let aptitude fix it all, otherwise apt-get probably wont complain about anything
[12:35] <Adydas> i think it was cpp
[12:35] <Adydas> yaccin:
[12:35] <yaccin> kdevelop doesnt have it as a dependency
[12:35] <yaccin> o.O
[12:35] <vrkhans> my hard drive already have partion but kbuntu installer is not showing all the other partions
[12:36] <lu-bao> yaccin,  do you know how i check out what version of kubuntu i have? :)
[12:36] <vrkhans> i  am in kbuntu running live cd
[12:36] <bianconeri> Recommended solution? Fix or Ignore ?:D
[12:36] <vrkhans> so if any one can help me in installing kbuntu
[12:36] <bianconeri> would ignoring cause complications in the future?
[12:36] <yaccin> lu-bao: ctrl + alt +f1 maybe... and then ctrl +alt +f7 ;)
[12:36] <cpk1> lu-bao: cat /proc/version
[12:37] <yaccin> ah
[12:37] <yaccin> ol
[12:37] <bianconeri> vrkhans: elaborate? what problems are you facing?
[12:37] <yaccin> ok
[12:37] <yaccin> :D
[12:37] <Adydas> lu-bao: cat /proc/version
[12:37] <vrkhans> i am trying to install linux
[12:37] <lu-bao> thx :)
[12:37] <cpk1> bianconeri: well obviously aptitude isnt going to miraculously forget =P
[12:37] <tuco> Somebody knows the best way to install Flash Player folks?
[12:37] <Adydas> i think thats what your after
[12:37] <lu-bao> ah thats awesome never met such a nice community before at linux :D
[12:37] <vrkhans> but the installer doest not showing all the partion
[12:37] <Adydas> tuco: apt-get install
[12:37] <Adydas> lu-bao: did it work? that what you want?
[12:38] <bianconeri> do you want to dual boot?
[12:38] <tuco> I have downloaded the tz file Adydas
[12:38] <yaccin> cpk1: dopenst shows the version of (k)ubuntu... only kernel etc
[12:38] <BluesKaj> vrkhans, what partitions do have on the drive ?
[12:38] <vrkhans> just one big chunk of 137gb
[12:38] <yaccin> you cant see if its edgy, hoary, feisty etc
[12:38] <Adydas> tuco: sounds like you should try an apt-get install before considering use of a gunzip file
[12:38] <tuco> Don't know what to do with it
[12:38] <BluesKaj> what is the format ?
[12:38] <bianconeri> And the 137 is originally what?
[12:38] <vrkhans> i already have windows installed and total 4 partion , which i can see in windows
[12:38] <cpk1> bianconeri: if it was me i would let aptitude do its thing (but copy into a text file everything its removing) and then go from there since most if not all the packages should be in the cache, but feel free to use apt-get
[12:39] <vrkhans> but not in linux
[12:39] <vrkhans> installer
[12:39] <lu-bao> linux version 2.6.17-11-generic (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (ubuntu 4.1.113ubuntu5)) (ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic)  <-- is that newest kubuntu ? :)
[12:39] <tuco> Ah ok. But then I have to download the file from the konsole right?
[12:39] <Adydas> tuco: check out http://adydas.net/linux/ and go to the apt-get and repos page it should help you
[12:39] <yaccin> lontra: im making a new one right now
[12:40] <vrkhans> does there any other good partion manager in ubuntu which can show me all my other partion
[12:40] <bianconeri> most packages are Gnome anyways :P
[12:40] <Adydas> tuco: sounds excatly like what you need, just down the bottom you need to serch for flash and install flash
[12:40] <vrkhans> like mandrake
[12:40] <bianconeri> gparted
[12:40] <yaccin> vrkhans: qtparted
[12:40] <vrkhans> in mandrake it can read all my partion
[12:40] <yaccin> ah ubuntu
[12:40] <yaccin> ^^
[12:40] <bianconeri> vrkhans: gparted
[12:40] <cpk1> lu-bao: sorry its /proc/versio_signature
[12:40] <vrkhans> but can i install it
[12:40] <BluesKaj> GParted live cd is the partition editor to use
[12:40] <vrkhans> i am running the live cdd
[12:40] <cpk1> yaccin: yeah its /proc/version_signature
[12:41] <Adydas> pisser, i was close
[12:41] <lu-bao> cpk1, ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic  <-- newest?
[12:41] <Adydas> its what im using
[12:41] <cpk1> lu-bao: sorry for typo, cat /proc/version_signature will tell you the ubuntu release
[12:41] <BluesKaj> yes vrkhans , but what kind of partitions do you have ?
[12:41] <cpk1> oh wait no it wont
[12:41] <cpk1> damn
[12:41] <cpk1> i forget where it hides =(
[12:41] <Adydas> tuco: how you getting on?
[12:41] <lu-bao> cpk1, ah dont worry no problem typos are naturally :)
[12:41] <bianconeri> Ok then another problem but more gory.... I am running Kubuntu dapper and I have an Acer F-19 screen and a samsung 40 HD LCD, and I wanna run them both together. So I hooked up the LCD using s-video the boot up process appears, but as soon as X launches it goes bezerk....
[12:42] <yaccin> cpk1: which also only shows kernel version ^^
[12:42] <stdin> cpk1: lsb_release -a
[12:42] <yaccin> yaccin@Hephaistos:~$ cat /proc/version_signature
[12:42] <yaccin> Ubuntu 2.6.20-8.14-generic
[12:42] <cpk1> stdin: thanks T.T
[12:42] <stdin> cpk1: :-)
[12:42] <lu-bao> cpk1, okay i downloaded kubuntu dvd 2days ago and updated it today evening but do i have newest kubuntu version ? ^^" or stable old one?
[12:42] <yaccin> ah
[12:42] <cpk1> it SHOULD be in proc if you're asking me...
[12:42] <yaccin> this is nice
[12:42] <vrkhans> how i can mount my hard disk
[12:42] <yaccin> :D
[12:42] <vrkhans> in linux
[12:42] <tuco> TRying to find the part you are talking about
[12:43] <vrkhans> to see al the partions
[12:43] <cpk1> lu-bao: yes its the newest kernel for edgy
[12:44] <lu-bao> cpk1, so i am up to date with everything? :)
[12:44] <BluesKaj> vrkhans, are you reading any of the questions or suggestions ppl are giving you ?
[12:44] <cpk1> your kernel is up to date
[12:44] <yaccin> lontra: i have a working package
[12:44] <yaccin> uploading now
[12:44] <lu-bao> um okay ^^
[12:44] <bianconeri> Any suggestions for my dual monitor problem?
[12:45] <Adydas> Dual monitor tastic
[12:45] <vrkhans> sorry
[12:45] <Adydas> what vid card you got
[12:45] <vrkhans> i am looking something else
[12:45] <Adydas> bianconeri: what vid card
[12:46] <vrkhans> please address my id when any of you are talking to me
[12:46] <lu-bao> cpk1, thank you for your help :)
[12:46] <vrkhans> because this the first time i am using irc
[12:46] <tuco> damn can't seem to find the info Adydas
[12:46] <bianconeri> Adydas: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[12:46] <Adydas> cool
[12:47] <Adydas> try adding this..
[12:47] <BluesKaj> we are vrkhans , but you arent reading or responding , all you do is ask the same question
[12:47] <cpk1> can you use s-video and 15pin out at the same time?
[12:47] <Adydas> yes
[12:47] <Adydas> belive so
[12:47] <vrkhans> blueskaj i am confuse
[12:47] <Adydas> err
[12:48] <vrkhans> i am trying to figure out what you guys are saying
[12:48] <Adydas> bianconeri: in your xorg.conf you need to add some lines
[12:48] <Adydas> it got me cloned out put
[12:48] <Adydas> its a start
[12:48] <BluesKaj> vrkhans, what partitions can you see on the hard drive
[12:48] <vrkhans> but please explain me in detail
[12:48] <yaccin> lontra: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/
[12:48] <bianconeri> I want cloned :)
[12:48] <vrkhans> in windows or in here
[12:48] <BluesKaj> anywhere
[12:48] <tuco> Adydas do I have to add a repository at all?
[12:49] <vrkhans> in windows i have four partions
[12:49] <vrkhans> but over here installer just show one partion of 137gb
[12:49] <vrkhans> no seprate partions
[12:49] <Adydas> tuco: remove the #'s from the deb lines
[12:50] <flaccid> !webcam
[12:50] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:50] <tuco> I am lost now :-( arf!
[12:50] <lu-bao> tuco, why?
[12:50] <tuco> I did sudo apt-get update
[12:50] <vrkhans> i tried mandrake its installer can read and show all the partions
[12:50] <BluesKaj> !partitions
[12:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:50] <Adydas> did you do the repos first in sources.list
[12:50] <bianconeri> Adydas: what line should I add?
[12:50] <tuco> downloaded the tz file onto the desktop
[12:50] <Adydas> start at the start of that file
[12:51] <Adydas> ignore the GZ file
[12:51] <tuco> but don't know what to do next!
[12:51] <tuco> Ah
[12:51] <Adydas> it is nothing to do with it, and the worste way to get it done
[12:51] <tuco> Oooops
[12:51] <Adydas> starting a fresh
[12:51] <tuco> ok
[12:51] <Adydas> follow from the start of here
[12:51] <Adydas> #deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[12:51] <Adydas> deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[12:51] <Adydas> err
[12:51] <Adydas> here http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html
[12:51] <vrkhans> in kubuntu
[12:51] <Adydas> it will get you to open your apt sources, remove some #s ( like above )
[12:51] <vrkhans> what i should do
[12:52] <Adydas> apt-get update
[12:52] <Adydas> then allow you to use apt-get to install the flash
[12:52] <tuco> Ok so first I have to add the repositories right?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> !partitons > vrkhans
[12:52] <Adydas> tuco:  Bingo
[12:52] <tuco> I have to be in root too?
[12:52] <Adydas> by deleating the #'s from the start of the lines that look like
[12:53] <cpk1> vrkhans: how many partitions does sudo fdisk -l say you have?
[12:53] <Adydas> tuco: follow the commands in that website
[12:53] <Adydas> it uses root when needed, not when not needed
[12:53] <stdin> !repos
[12:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:53] <Adydas> it starts Firstly open your apt get sources file by running the following command
[12:53] <Adydas> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <Adydas> there
[12:54] <Adydas> theres a picture, it should open a window like my picture you see it?
[12:55] <frojnd> can xubuntu be installed as kubuntu? via live cd and desktop install?
[12:55] <tuco> Ok in sources list now...
[12:55] <Adydas> tuco: now follow the rest of the website
[12:55] <stdin> frojnd: yeah, you can also install it along side kubuntu
[12:56] <frojnd> stdin: thx
[12:56] <Adydas> tuco:  use a bit of spot the difference skills with the 2 large grey boxes near the start
[12:57] <stdin> frojnd: http://www.xubuntu.org/get <- you can get the desktop ISO from here
[12:59] <tuco> Now I need to install
[12:59] <Adydas> u done the update?
[12:59] <tuco> yes master
[01:00] <Adydas> nice work.. now use the part about apt-cache to find what you need
[01:00] <Adydas> i belive apt-cache search flash should be a good start
[01:01] <Adydas> if your using mozilla libflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin looks to be the correct package
[01:01] <tuco> there is this: flashplayer-mozilla - Macromedia Flash Player
[01:02] <Adydas> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:02] <Adydas> see if it does the trick
[01:02] <vrkhans> ok no i have that qtparted running but still it doesnt show me all the other partions
[01:02] <stdin> if you want to view flash above flash 7 you'll need flashplugin-nonfree
[01:02] <Adydas> ah wicked
[01:02] <Adydas> ther eyou go tuco
[01:02] <stdin> (version 7)
[01:03] <stdin> from multiverse
[01:03] <tuco> Adydas you trickster hey :-)
[01:03] <vrkhans> it is showing the whole drive but no the individual partions which i made in windows
[01:03] <tuco> I need version 8 or above
[01:04] <stdin> tuco: flash (from adobe) version 9 is available from edgy-backports in multiverse, the package is flashplugin-nonfree
[01:04] <stdin> (also dapper-backports afaik)
[01:05] <stdin> there is no version 8 for linux tho, and it's only for x86, not 64bit or power-pc
[01:05] <vrkhans> just showning the whole 178gb unallocated
[01:07] <tuco> I got this: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p            rocess
[01:08] <frojnd> that's funny where can I add new connection (DSL)
[01:08] <stdin> tuco: try "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[01:09] <tuco> ok killed
[01:09] <vrkhans> what kind of partion manager mandrake use
[01:09] <vrkhans> ?
[01:10] <stdin> vrkhans: no idea, but probably it uses parted as a backend, like gparted
[01:11] <tuco> I need to kill adept manager now
[01:11] <vrkhans> actually i had installed mandrake 8 on my system now in kubuntu it is not showing any partion what madrake is installed
[01:11] <tuco> says don't have permission
[01:12] <stdin> tuco: use sudo
[01:12] <stdin> tuco: and do: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:13] <slyfox> Who here uses Calendar a lot from Kontact - I have a few question about it ?
[01:13] <vrkhans> is it possible i can use mandrake and partion my hard drive and use the same to install kubuntu
[01:13] <vrkhans> use mandrake to partion
[01:13] <tuco> still stuck with adept :-(
[01:14] <stdin> vrkhans: yeah, as long as you don't install after the partitioning
[01:14] <vrkhans> ok but can i see those partion in kubuntu
[01:15] <vrkhans> because i cant see my windows partion in kubuntu
[01:15] <tuco> I guess I am stopping for tonight. Need some sleep...Kubuntu has taken me 3 full days, dangerously addictive. And oh wait I can see some windows logo out of sight...Hasta la Vista baby!
[01:16] <stdin> vrkhans: I can't think of any reason why you shouldn't see the partitions in kubuntu
[01:16] <vrkhans> but i can see my windows partion currently
[01:16] <vrkhans> i have windows already installed
[01:16] <vrkhans> i cant
[01:16] <tuco> Thanks folks for your kind help as usual :-) Thumbs up and I see you soon.
[01:17] <stdin> later tuco :)
[01:17] <vrkhans> I will be back
[01:17] <tuco> Cheerios guys. Good day or good night.
[01:23] <bonbonthejon> is anyone here trying feisty
[01:23] <yaccin> <<
[01:23] <yaccin> feisty <3
[01:23] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: did you upgrade from edgy? or fresh install?
[01:23] <yaccin> fresh isntall
[01:23] <yaccin> new pc
[01:24] <yaccin> well
[01:24] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: hmm
[01:24] <yaccin> not complete new pc
[01:24] <yaccin> but most parts of it
[01:24] <yaccin> :D
[01:24] <yaccin> whats the problem with upgrade?
[01:24] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: I remember having problems going dapper->edgy, I am afraid to do edgy-->feisty
[01:24] <yaccin> hmm
[01:25] <yaccin> 1. edit sources.list 2. update 3. dist-upgrade 4. install kubuntu-desktop 5. upgrade (repeat as often as neccessery) 6. force isntall other new packages 7. reboot
[01:25] <yaccin> shiuld work
[01:25] <yaccin> ^^
[01:25] <yaccin> *should
[01:25] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: yeah, but going from dapper X got messed up and I reinstalled to fix the problems
[01:26] <yaccin> dapper > edgy was no problem for me
[01:26] <yaccin> did it like i described above
[01:26] <yaccin> :/
[01:26] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: yeah. so in sources.list I just change all the edgy's to feisty's?
[01:26] <yaccin> i think so
[01:27] <yaccin> use replace funkction in kate :)
[01:27] <stdin> feisty is still an alpha, it's not reccommended to upgrade to feisty yet
[01:27] <stdin> (just a note)
[01:28] <yaccin> true true
[01:28] <yaccin> but runs stable here :)
[01:28] <stdin> yeah, I run it too
[01:29] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I know, but I dont mind trying it
[01:29] <stdin> but it's just a warning, don't expect it to be stable, it isn't
[01:29] <bonbonthejon> stdin: what isnt stable for you?
[01:30] <stdin> nothing in particular, but feisty isn't classed as stable, it's in alpha stage atm, it could break at ant time
[01:30] <stdin> some users can't start X for example
[01:31] <stdin> but if you want to test it, please do, we need testers
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I've done some of the past releases before they went stable
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I guess ill try it
[01:31] <yaccin> good luck :)
[01:32] <yaccin> i love the new kopete :)
[01:32] <yaccin> skinnable contact-list \o/
[01:32] <chavo> I'm running feisty here, did the upgrade dapper -> edgy -> fesity no problem
[01:32] <stdin> I always run the devel release, to test it and report bugs, so If you feel you want to test it, go ahead. testers are welcome
[01:32] <crousti> Hello !
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: i think it tried that out, there was a patch on kde-look that did something similar, maybe they included it into kopete
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> hi crousti
[01:33] <yaccin> yes aparrently they did ^^
[01:33] <yaccin> ive also seen that patch
[01:33] <yaccin> but i wasnt able to include it by myself
[01:33] <yaccin> and there were no packages for ubuntu :(
[01:34] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: you had to patch the kopete source code, then compile
[01:34] <atool> So, i can't for the life of me get kdm to launch at boot even though /etc/X11/default-siplay-manager is set
[01:34] <yaccin> i know
[01:34] <stdin> bonbonthejon: kde 3.5.6 is default in feisty, lots of bug fixes there, you'll like it :)
[01:34] <yaccin> didnt work
[01:34] <yaccin> anyways
[01:34] <yaccin> now i dont have to ^^
[01:34] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I got 3.5.6 from kubuntu.org
[01:34] <yaccin> aww just another kopete-update ^^
[01:35] <stdin> bonbonthejon: yeah, but it's default in feisty, and releases for feisty come out *before* they do for edgy :)
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> \me is downloading the packages now
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> there we go
[01:35] <yaccin> http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/
[01:35] <yaccin> :)
[01:36] <atool> brings me to tty at login each reboot, though i can start kdm no problem if i init.d it... any ideas?
[01:37] <vrkhans> i am back
[01:37] <vrkhans> any solution
[01:37] <vrkhans> how i can see all my partion
[01:38] <stdin> atool: are the links in /etc/rc2.d for kdm, eg: /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm ?
[01:39] <atool> stdin: no they're not... what's the best way to add them? manually?
[01:41] <vrkhans> how i can mount my windows partions
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !partions
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !partion
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !mount
[01:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:42] <stdin> atool: I think "sudo update-rc.d -n kdm multiuser 99 01" is the best way
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !windows
[01:42] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:42] <stdin> atool: opps, take the "-n" out, so "sudo update-rc.d kdm multiuser 99 01"
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !ntfs | vrkhans
[01:43] <ubotu> vrkhans: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:44] <atool> stdin: looks like it's already in rc1, not rc2 (sorry just looked in rc2)...any other ideas?
[01:45] <atool> stdin: K01kdm -> ../init.d/kdm
[01:46] <atool> stdin: oddly gdm is in rc1 and rc2
[01:46] <stdin> atool: you need them in rc2.d, that's the default run level, if update-rc.d doesn't work (with the -f flag) you can just make the links "cd /etc/rc2.d && sudo ln -s ../init.d/kdm S99KDM"
[01:47] <stdin> atool: if /etc/X11/default-display-manager says to use KDM, GDM won't start
[01:47] <stdin> atool: but try "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm multiuser 99 01" forst
[01:48] <atool> stdin: gives the error/warning "System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist."
[01:48] <atool> stdin: should it be 99 02?
[01:48] <Huey> my kde desktop background is now stuck showing one image, even when i try to change it through kcontrol
[01:49] <Huey> what setting file do i need to edit/delete to unlock the desktop background?
[01:49] <stdin> atool: it should be 99 (so it's starts last) and 01 (so it stops first)
[01:49] <stdin> atool: so just try making the link yourself, with "cd /etc/rc2.d && sudo ln -s ../init.d/kdm S99kdm"
[01:49] <dx11101> howcome in kde i can only get sound out of one program at a time?
[01:50] <atool> stdin: k thanks, i'll give that a try, brb.
[01:51] <stdin> Huey: what about when you change it by right-clicking on the desktop and choosing "Configure Desktop" ?
[01:51] <Venona> I am not sure if this is a feisty problem or kubuntu. But today i did a dist-upgrade and now after logging out I cant get the login box ... All i see is a "black and white snowy" screen. I tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver and I still get the same outcome. I dont have Beryl installed. I have a radeon card.
[01:51] <stdin> Venona: are you running feisty, or edgy/dapper ?
[01:52] <Venona> feisty
[01:52] <stdin> Venona: ask in #ubuntu+1 or (if no one answers) in #kubuntu-devel
[01:53] <stdin> feisty is still alpha, and #kubuntu is for the stable versions
[01:53] <Venona> k
[01:54] <atool> stdin: thanks a lot man, that worked... it was driving me crazy
[01:54] <Huey> stdin: yes, that's what i mean. I've tried No picture and Picture (selecting a different picture), but my original image is still being displayed
[01:54] <Huey> stdin: and this survives logins and reboots
[01:55] <stdin> atool: no problem, glad it works :)
[01:55] <atool> later all... thanks for the quick help :)
[01:55] <stdin> Huey: that's strange indeed
[01:56] <Huey> stdin: i'm thinking that removing my .kde directory might work, but that seems drastic; i'm hoping to narrow it down a little more
[01:57] <stdin> Huey: I don't know what would cause that, (and I doubt anyone here knows) so try asking in #kde before taking "drastic" measures
[01:59] <stdin> Huey: HINT: try changing the line "Wallpaper=...." in ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc
[01:59] <uranther> can anyone help me with openoffice? i'm on kubuntu dapper drake and openoffice crashes everytime i start it, in the midst of loading
[02:00] <userundefined> uranther: start it from the command line so it'll tell you what errors are making it crash
[02:00] <uranther> it doesn't give me any errors.. i'm running it from the console
[02:01] <uranther> it gets to about 35% loading then it stops, and says it will recover any files that were opened
[02:01] <uranther> with no errors
[02:01] <drkm> I am trying to upload a directory which has other directories with files in them.. is there a way I can upload it via ftp/ncftp which will automatically create the right directories for me?
[02:02] <stdin> drkm: konqueror won't do that for you ?
[02:03] <drkm> never used it for ftp
[02:03] <drkm> I'll try
[02:03] <surgy> uranther: whats the command you give to run office?
[02:03] <stdin> it's a nice app for ftp
[02:04] <stdin> drkm: in koqueror, just copy the dir you want, and paste to the ftp server, it should copy all the sub-dirs
[02:04] <uranther> surgy: ooffice, oodraw, whatever, none of them work
[02:04] <drkm> ok cool thanks
[02:04] <stdin> konqu is a very useful app :)
[02:04] <userundefined> <3 konqueror
[02:05] <surgy> uranther..... if it gives no errors i cant help much, maybe remove the package and reinstall it?
[02:05] <stdin> <3 koqueror & konversation (SVN version)
[02:05] <uranther> surgy: tried that many times
[02:06] <surgy> stdin: any ideas about uranther's problem?
[02:06] <uranther> the bugzilla mentions it might be because of accessibility packages installed, but i uninstalled of those and still doesn't work
[02:06] <uranther> i've also removed ~/.openoffice
[02:07] <stdin> surgy, uranther: no, not really, but there is a channel for OpenOffice: #openoffice.org it may be the next place to ask
[02:07] <uranther> tried them
[02:07] <uranther> not much more help
[02:07] <uranther> plus they're not very active :P
[02:08] <stdin> it also may be a Java problem, as OOo depends heavily on that
[02:09] <uranther> ok lemme try that
[02:09] <uranther> i also tried installing mozilla because i know it depends on that for some reason too
[02:11] <stdin> maybe it needs the gecko stuff
[02:11] <uranther> i'll install the blackdown java sdk
[02:11] <stdin> sun java may be better
[02:12] <uranther> oh :|
[02:18] <uranther> are there hardware recommendations for kubuntu? :P
[02:18] <uranther> i think my computer is lacking
[02:19] <uranther> like, err, wtf, where did adept go? it never opened
[02:20] <stdin> I think, 192MB RAM and 1GHz CPU is recommended
[02:20] <stdin> (don't quote me tho)
[02:21] <uranther> oh i have 512mb and 1700+ (1.4ghz)
[02:21] <uranther> but crap video card
[02:21] <stdin> that's fine for kde
[02:21] <uranther> i run a lot of programs
[02:22] <uranther> but i have 158mb ram free so i guess it's cool
[02:22] <stdin> I have 512MB and 1.8GHz with an intel GPU, KDE runs fine, make sure you have about 1GB of swap tho
[02:23] <uranther> 815mb swap
[02:23] <uranther> i didn't make that up o_O
[02:23] <stdin> should be ok, but 1GB swap is reccommended anyway
[02:23] <uranther> i dunno maybe i did, because swap is supposed to be at least 1.5x your ram size
[02:24] <stdin> uranther: it's at most 1.5 * ram, the more ram, the less swap you neeed
[02:25] <uranther> oh :/
[02:26] <uranther> maybe i should install openoffice from the package on their website?
[02:26] <uranther> seems like i tried that before though...
[02:26] <esaym> my keyboard has some shortcut keys, anyone know how to coonfigure them?
[02:27] <esaym> the volume and email ones work, but the internet one doesnt
[02:27] <stdin> !shortcut
[02:27] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:27] <stdin> keytouch may be what you want
[02:28] <stdin> !info keytouch edgy
[02:29] <ubotu> keytouch: A program to configure the extra function keys of the keyboard. In component universe, is optional.   -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[02:37] <uranther> i already accepted the license but now it wants me to hit ok
[02:37] <uranther> and enter doesn't work
[02:37] <uranther> !
[02:37] <stdin> uranther: use apt-get, not adept
[02:37] <NightBird> yeah, I like it when it does that.. >_>
[02:38] <stdin> ... fixed in next release
[02:43] <Mena> Jucato, hi
[02:43] <uranther> ok still doesn't work with sun java6 bin jdk and all that jazz
[02:44] <tjz> how the heck do u get flash player to install?
[02:44] <stdin> !java9
[02:44] <uranther> flashplugin-nonfree
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <Mena> !sun-java
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <tjz> ...huh
[02:45] <Mena> stdin, do you use karamba
[02:45] <tjz> missed that window closed
[02:45] <stdin> Mena: nope
[02:45] <Mena> stdin,ok
[02:45] <uranther> tjz, install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:45] <stdin> !flash9 | tjz
[02:45] <ubotu> tjz: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:46] <tjz> ok got it
[02:48] <tjz> keeps breaking
[02:52] <allan>  /list SQL injection
[02:53] <tjz> daskreech?
[02:54] <larson9999> how is the turion 64 and linux? do they play nice?
[03:02] <Rizada> boa noite pessoal
[03:03] <xsacha> hey, if i have a computer getting the internet via a wireless a card.. and then i connect my kubuntu machine to it via ethernet -- can i get the internet on that kubuntu machine?
[03:04] <franklin> yes,  xsacha
[03:04] <franklin> separate interfaces
[03:05] <franklin> wired is usually eth0 and wireless is eth1
[03:06] <CpuWhiz> how do i reverse what the settings from Monitor & Display has done to my resolution
[03:06] <xsacha> hmm so eth0 should be getting the internet from the other computers eth1? just doesnt seem to be working
[03:07] <franklin> xsacha... what are you trying to do?
[03:07] <tjz> ok i have another question how do i get my wireless card to work on kubuntu?
[03:07] <franklin> i may have misunderxtood you
[03:07] <xsacha> get the internet on the machine that doesnt have the wireless card by connecting, via ethernet, to the comp that does
[03:08] <xsacha> i can send files over LAN with the ethernet but dont seem to have the internet
[03:09] <franklin> the machine that gets the internet would need to be configured as a router
[03:09] <xsacha> oh ok
[03:09] <Rizada> alguem ai do Brasil ?
[03:09] <franklin> so the other machine can use it to connect out
[03:09] <xsacha> ill find out how to configure it as a router
[03:10] <tjz> my wireless wont connect and im sittin next to tha router
[03:10] <franklin> means nothing... you need to configure your wireless manually
[03:10] <tjz> ok how?
[03:11] <franklin> tjz i'. going to ask you to open up a terminal window
[03:11] <tjz> k
[03:11] <franklin> open up 2 actaully
[03:11] <tjz> done
[03:11] <franklin> using kubuntu, right?
[03:12] <tjz> yea
[03:12] <franklin> what kind of wap do you have?
[03:12] <franklin> linksys?
[03:12] <franklin> d-link?
[03:12] <tjz> link sys
[03:12] <tjz> linksys
[03:12] <flaccid> oh ap
[03:12] <franklin> ok, i know those
[03:12] <tjz> kool
[03:12] <stdin> !bt | Rizada
[03:12] <franklin> have you set up the wap yet
[03:12] <stdin> !br | Rizada
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <ubotu> Rizada: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:13] <tjz> yea
[03:13] <franklin> are you using WEP or WPA?
[03:13] <franklin> that's encryption
[03:13] <tjz> ...?  not sure
[03:13] <franklin> check,,, it makes a difference to kubuntu
[03:14] <franklin> it will not connect unless we can tell it what to use
[03:14] <tjz> i got one onther laptop on tha same router but using windows
[03:14] <franklin> how old is the router
[03:14] <tjz> its not private
[03:14] <tjz> not that old
[03:14] <tjz> fair
[03:15] <franklin> log onto the router and see under wireless if you are running WEP or WPA
[03:15] <franklin> we need to know
[03:15] <jmichaelx> !xscreensavers
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xscreensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <tjz> wut iz wep?
[03:16] <franklin> wired equivalency protocol
[03:16] <tjz> and wpa
[03:16] <franklin> it basically protects your wireless session about as well as being plaugged in with ethernet
[03:16] <Jin> Need some quick help, trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop results in a blank screen when X starts, I fixed this once before but I forget how, can anyone help me out?
[03:17] <flaccid> don't use wep anymore
[03:17] <flaccid> its crackable
[03:17] <franklin> use wpa... wi-fi protected access
[03:17] <tjz> wpa
[03:17] <tjz> oh crap my connection is WEP
[03:17] <tjz> mybad
[03:17] <franklin> you can change it to wpa
[03:18] <jmichaelx> Jin: what kind of video card do you have?
[03:18] <franklin> if you can, do so
[03:18] <flaccid> franklin: and yeah only radius/802.1x is quiv to plugged in ethernet
[03:18] <tjz> how
[03:18] <Jin> ATI Radion Mobility X700, I'm installing on an Acer Travelmate 8100
[03:18] <Jin> Radeon*
[03:18] <franklin> there should be a chouce there
[03:18] <tjz> where?
[03:18] <franklin> choice
[03:18] <jmichaelx> Jin: are you able to get the command line via ctrl+alt+F1?
[03:19] <franklin> under wireless or security in the router configs
[03:19] <Jin> jmichaelx, let me try
[03:19] <tjz> ok its changed
[03:19] <franklin> ok, set a new password for wpa
[03:19] <franklin> dont tell me
[03:19] <tjz> ok
[03:19] <franklin> write it down, you'll need it in a few mintues
[03:20] <tjz> ok done
[03:20] <franklin> make sure you choose wpa-psk
[03:20] <Jin> you guys doing like, a wireless-style card trick?
[03:20] <tjz> ok
[03:20] <franklin> done?
[03:20] <tjz> yea
[03:20] <tom__> hello
[03:20] <franklin> ok... go to you terminal window
[03:20] <franklin> either one
[03:20] <tjz> k
[03:21] <franklin> we have 2 open right?
[03:21] <tjz> yea
[03:21] <tjz> on desktp 3 and 4
[03:21] <franklin> use the terminal to open up the following file: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:22] <tom__> #ubuntu
[03:22] <tjz> permision denied
[03:22] <franklin> tjz... use kate....
[03:22] <tjz> ?
[03:22] <franklin> do the following in the terminal window: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[03:23] <franklin> kate is a text editor
[03:23] <Jin> jmichaelx, alright I'm at a terminal
[03:23] <tjz> ok got  it up
[03:24] <franklin> ok... are you familiar with commenting things out in linux?
[03:24] <tjz> not really im new to tha system
[03:24] <jay> kiba-dock refuses to hide after clicking on any launcher
[03:24] <franklin> the ound symbol # is used to comment out lines in files
[03:24] <franklin> er, pound symbol
[03:24] <franklin> this thing: #
[03:24] <tjz> im awesome in windows but here still readin
[03:24] <jmichaelx> Jin: ok... try using the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'      and when you run that, select the 'radeon' driver (or 'ati' if you cannot find 'radeon')
[03:25] <tjz> yea
[03:25] <tjz> #
[03:25] <tjz> ok
[03:25] <franklin> ok.
[03:26] <franklin> comment out everything under the section auto eth2
[03:26] <tjz> ok one sec
[03:26] <franklin> like this: #auto eth2
[03:26] <tjz> #iface eth2 inet dhcp
[03:27] <franklin> and then ditto for the iface line beneath it
[03:27] <tjz> like this]
[03:27] <franklin> yes...good
[03:28] <tjz> k
[03:28] <franklin> what does you file look like now? what's commented out?
[03:28] <tjz> the one                 auto ath0
[03:29] <tjz> do i comment it tp
[03:29] <tjz> to*]
[03:29] <franklin> yes
[03:29] <tjz> ok and the line beneth it
[03:29] <franklin> as well as auto wlan0
[03:29] <tjz> ok
[03:29] <ccherrett> I have a wireless card in my laptop. When I boot and run ifdown then ifup it configures and runs. How can I get it to do this automatically?
[03:29] <tjz> ok done
[03:30] <franklin> are eth1 and eth0 uncommented as well as auto lo
[03:30] <franklin> leave those uncommented
[03:30] <tjz> yeq
[03:30] <tjz> yea*
[03:31] <Jin> jmichaelx, I went through the reconfigure and tried to restart X, still no luck
[03:31] <franklin> ok, under auto eth1, what does it say
[03:31] <jmichaelx> Jin: you may have to reboot
[03:31] <franklin> dont read any passwords into here
[03:31] <jmichaelx> sudo shutdown -r now
[03:31] <Jin> jmichaelx, that wouldn't work though since I'm on the livecd though?
[03:31] <Jin> I think it's a multi-monitor problem, I just forget how to fix it, something about MonitorLayout I think...
[03:31] <tjz> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[03:31] <jmichaelx> Jin: AHHH... no, that would not work
[03:32] <tjz> that
[03:32] <franklin> that's it?
[03:32] <jmichaelx> Jin: i thought you had installed kubuntu
[03:32] <tjz> yea
[03:32] <Jin> something about VDMS I THINK
[03:32] <franklin> do you know what your ssid is?
[03:32] <tjz> no
[03:32] <Jin> not completely sure, I forget how I fixed this a year ago
[03:33] <franklin> its the wireless access point service set identifier
[03:33] <piro> has anyone had any luck hot swapping sata drives?
[03:33] <franklin> tjz
[03:34] <tjz> yea
[03:34] <franklin> you got your ssid?
[03:34] <franklin> it's not linksys, is it?
[03:34] <jmichaelx> Jin: i would have expected it to detect your video card, but in the event it did not, there is likely some sort of command you need to type in at the boot prompt... maybe something like xvesa=radeon or something similar
[03:34] <tjz> no
[03:34] <franklin> good
[03:34] <tjz> prolly
[03:34] <tjz> noone has really messed with it
[03:34] <franklin> change it to something else
[03:35] <tjz> ok
[03:35] <tjz> done
[03:35] <franklin> call it Airstrip or something
[03:35] <tjz> ok got it
[03:35] <franklin> you made the chage on the router?
[03:35] <tjz> crap wrong window how do i change it?
[03:35] <franklin> on the router under wireless settings
[03:36] <franklin> SSID name
[03:36] <Jin> jmichaelx, lspci detects it, and so does the reconfigure
[03:36] <franklin> ssid is service set ID
[03:36] <franklin> it's just a name for the wireless router
[03:36] <tjz> ok i got it
[03:36] <tjz> dione
[03:36] <franklin> the radio will broadcast that name
[03:36] <franklin> ok
[03:36] <tjz> done*
[03:36] <jmichaelx> Jin: i am not sure what to say at this point.... maybe playing with your resolution would help
[03:37] <franklin> back to the interfaces file
[03:37] <franklin> in kate
[03:37] <tjz> yea
[03:37] <franklin> under the section auto eth1, and under the iface line, add the following... each on it's own line
[03:37] <tjz> ok
[03:38] <franklin> wpa-ssid "your-ssid-name" (no quotes)
[03:38] <tjz> wpa-ssid    thats it
[03:39] <franklin> there's more
[03:39] <tjz> ok onesec
[03:39] <franklin> so that line should look like this: wpa-ssid Airstrip
[03:39] <franklin> cool?
[03:40] <franklin> next line.... ready?
[03:40] <franklin> under the last one...
[03:40] <tjz> yea
[03:40] <tjz> yea
[03:40] <franklin> wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK
[03:40] <franklin> one more line....
[03:41] <tjz> ok
[03:41] <franklin> wpa-passphrase "your-password-for-the-router" (i asked you to write it ealier)
[03:41] <franklin> dont post your pw in here
[03:42] <franklin> add it to the end of that last line... it's the WPA passphrase u did for the router ealier
[03:42] <tjz> ok
[03:42] <tjz> ok
[03:42] <franklin> ok... done?
[03:42] <tjz> yea
[03:42] <franklin> so, in that file, the auto lo, auto eth0 and eth1 are all uncommented, right?
[03:42] <tjz> yep
[03:42] <franklin> and the others are commented, right?
[03:43] <tjz> yea
[03:43] <franklin> save the file
[03:43] <franklin> click save
[03:43] <Jin> got it
[03:44] <tjz> ok
[03:44] <franklin> ok
[03:44] <franklin> is your ethernet cable plugged in to the machine?
[03:44] <tjz> yea
[03:45] <franklin> your laptop, i mean
[03:45] <franklin> not the router
[03:45] <Jin> or not...
[03:45] <tjz> yea but im usong my desktopright now
[03:45] <ForgeAus> what are X includes?
[03:45] <franklin> it has a wireless card built in?
[03:45] <stdin> !xincludes
[03:45] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[03:46] <stdin> ForgeAus: ^^
[03:46] <tjz> no i installed it
[03:46] <franklin> ok...
[03:46] <franklin> type the following at the command line
[03:46] <ubuntu> Heya
[03:46] <Jin> NOW I've got it
[03:46] <tjz> ok
[03:46] <Jin> it WAS MonitorLayout options
[03:46] <franklin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:47] <guille> hi
[03:47] <guille> please see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BoU75XKaO8
[03:47] <tjz> wait in terminal or kate?
[03:47] <franklin> terminal
[03:47] <guille> i want know that Menu is used in this video
[03:47] <Mobster> Which is better Xubuntu or Ubuntu?
[03:47] <franklin> my bust, should have told you
[03:47] <guille> i want change mi K menu :)
[03:48] <franklin> mobster...what works best for you is what's best
[03:48] <Mobster> Ah
[03:48] <tjz> ok
[03:48] <Mobster> Which one will detect my widescreen monitor?
[03:48] <franklin> both
[03:48] <ForgeAus> um stdin are you sure they're packages? or have they been superceded or something
[03:48] <ForgeAus> my adept doesn't show them
[03:49] <franklin> xubuntu and edubuntu and kubuntu all use the UBUNTU base, just different packages
[03:49] <franklin> tjz?
[03:49] <tjz> franklin: how do i get flash to install i keep gettin break
[03:49] <tjz> yea
[03:49] <Mobster> I'm In Ubuntu now and I can scroll around the desktop with my mouse
[03:49] <franklin> install flash?
[03:49] <stdin> ForgeAus: you don't see xorg-dev ?
[03:49] <tjz> yea
[03:50] <franklin> do you have firefox installed?
[03:50] <ForgeAus> I can't find it... refreshing the list
[03:50] <tjz> no it breaks that to
[03:50] <franklin> what browser are u using?
[03:50] <stdin> ForgeAus: they are all in main
[03:50] <franklin> define breaking, tjz?
[03:50] <ccherrett> ok so I have to run wlassistant and then ifdown and ifup to get my wireless working. Can this be done automatically?
[03:51] <tjz> konquer
[03:51] <franklin> browser won't work with flash?
[03:51] <gansinho> please, I'm having some problems with ktorrent... all my torrents keep changing from stalled to downloading... I do not have this issue in azureus for example, I'm not behind firewalls or proxys...
[03:51] <franklin> or you can't install it?
[03:51] <tjz> konqueror*
[03:51] <tjz> ok
[03:51] <franklin> ok, konq
[03:51] <tjz> how?
[03:51] <franklin> you want to install flash, right?
[03:51] <tjz> yea
[03:51] <franklin> ok
[03:52] <franklin> hold on, let me hit my notes and i'll paste you a link how-to
[03:52] <tjz> ok
[03:52] <Mobster> !resolution
[03:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:54] <franklin> tjz... this site is for ubuntu, but installing flash is the same
[03:54] <tjz> ok
[03:54] <tjz> that works
[03:54] <franklin> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/    you can also hit the kubuntu wiki
[03:54] <franklin> how is your wireless thing?
[03:56] <franklin> ?
[03:56] <franklin> must not be working...
[03:56] <ForgeAus> ahh found some
[03:57] <vas> Hey I am running Kubuntu and everything is sounding really low pitched like eveyrone has a deep voice when I listen to stuff
[03:57] <tjz> doin good its connected
[03:57] <franklin> cool...
[03:57] <vas> how can I fix this?
[03:57] <franklin> that was easy, right?
[03:57] <tjz> thanx
[03:57] <tjz> yea i guess
[03:57] <franklin> no prob, glad i can help
[03:58] <franklin> make a backup of your interfaces file
[03:58] <vas> me?
[03:58] <tjz> ok
[03:58] <franklin> ready?
[03:58] <franklin> in the terminal...
[03:59] <tjz> me?
[03:59] <intelikey> you
[03:59] <vas> tjz: yes you srry i jumped into that
[03:59] <tjz> k
[03:59] <tjz> yea wut 4?
[03:59] <Adydaz> frankin where is the kubuntu wiki
[03:59] <franklin> google for kubuntu wiki... it will be there
[04:00] <Adydaz> shot
[04:00] <franklin> i forget the link
[04:00] <franklin> i have so many bookmarks, my head hurts
[04:01] <Mena> how to link to trash and when its full the con for it work and when its emptu the icon fior it
[04:01] <Mena> icon*
[04:01] <Mena> empty*
[04:01] <franklin> tjz...copy that file... cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak
[04:02] <tjz> k
[04:02] <franklin> sorry... i've got a gaim session going as well
[04:02] <franklin> lol
[04:02] <tjz> kool
[04:02] <franklin> and lost is on
[04:02] <tjz> im usin msn right now
[04:03] <Adydaz> how do you support and add info to wiki?
[04:03] <franklin> wiki is reader supported
[04:03] <franklin> YOU can add to it
[04:03] <Adydaz> nm
[04:03] <vas> srry to be a botherrr, but a last roll call for anyone that might've missed my earlier question.. Everything is sounding in a low pitched tone like a very low voice.. Kubuntu OS
[04:04] <Adydaz> i found it
[04:04] <[R] eaper> anyone can help me with my ati card?
[04:04] <franklin> what are you trying to do?
[04:04] <intelikey> !sound | vas
[04:04] <ubotu> vas: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:05] <Mena> !trash
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <franklin> the bot beat me to it
[04:05] <ForgeAus> !MP3
[04:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <ForgeAus> hmmm thats weird
[04:05] <flaccid> time for lunch
[04:06] <ForgeAus> easy to say please use free formats, if your making the files yourself thats ok but if your recieving them you don't choose what format...
[04:06] <intelikey> !ati [R] eaper
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati [r] eaper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <Adydaz> ForgeAus: having issues playing mp3s?
[04:06] <ForgeAus> me no
[04:07] <intelikey> ForgeAus you can allways dirrect them to /dev/null if they are in non-free formats...
[04:07] <franklin> non-free sucks
[04:07] <tjz> franklin: my audio will not work
[04:07] <franklin> when  did this happen?
[04:08] <tjz> it happened when i installed kubuntu
[04:08] <[R] eaper> my ati card doesn work right
[04:08] <franklin> make sure arts is enabled like the bot said above
[04:08] <intelikey> !ati | [R] eaper
[04:08] <ubotu> [R] eaper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:08] <[R] eaper> i have the latest ati drivers, but my screen look bad
[04:09] <intelikey> ooops.  guess i wasn't paying attention the first time.
[04:09] <[R] eaper> here is my xorg.0.log http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/885944
[04:09] <tjz> it will not work i installed it and put in a cd and using head phones hte only program i can actually hear music is kscd
[04:09] <franklin> make sure the volune is up
[04:09] <vas> play with the mixer
[04:10] <franklin> i suck at sound issues
[04:10] <franklin> i really do
[04:10] <tjz> it is  i plugged my head phones into the back of my dt but i hear nithing and in the front cd drive i only hear it in kscd
[04:10] <joshi> Hello
[04:11] <vas> ya the bot gave me nothin.. still low pitched sound
[04:11] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on dektop?
[04:11] <joshi> i play with wine mdk 2 but the sound does not work has anyone an idea?
[04:12] <Mena> desktop*
[04:12] <tjz> crap
[04:12] <BluesKaj> vas, check your soundcard connection , sounds like humm
[04:12] <vas> ok
[04:12] <surgy> joshi: a conflict with another program locking the sound driver?
[04:12] <vas> its not the speakers BTW
[04:12] <joshi> sound works without a game...
[04:12] <Lord_Flasheart> hi i'm not able to get kubuntu to work on my lapto
[04:12] <joshi> wich could it be?
[04:12] <[R] eaper> please someone take a look to my xorg.0.log and tell me what is wrong http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/885944
[04:12] <joshi> ups which
[04:12] <Lord_Flasheart> i think the problem may be the nvidia geforce go 7950 gtx sli cards
[04:12] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: not work ? yeah right
[04:13] <intelikey> sound is over rated.
[04:13] <piro> is freenx gnome specifc by chance?
[04:13] <intelikey> any deaf person can tell ya that.
[04:13] <joshi> could i change the sound in wine to another engine or sth like that?
[04:13] <Lord_Flasheart> when you install it with the alternate text installer (the graphical one won't boot)
[04:13] <CVirus> intelikey: you're deaf ?
[04:13] <CVirus> joshi: winecfg
[04:13] <Lord_Flasheart> the machine still doesn't boot after the install
[04:13] <intelikey> CVirus no just hard of listening.
[04:14] <Lord_Flasheart> but won't get beyond the loading screen with the blue bar
[04:14] <Lord_Flasheart> just drops out to a blank screen forever
[04:14] <Lord_Flasheart> i looked in the x org config file and it is using the vesa driver
[04:15] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: next time ... put your question in one messege .... now ... edit the boot parameters and remove quiet and splash
[04:15] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: and see where it fails
[04:15] <Lord_Flasheart> CVirus: could you tell me how to edit the boot parameters, i have not done that before?
[04:16] <[R] eaper> any radeon x1600 owner here??
[04:16] <intelikey> Lord_Flasheart [esc]    select the line you wish to edit and hit  [E]
[04:16] <joshi> just a moment please...
[04:16] <joshi> i will look
[04:17] <Lord_Flasheart> intelikey: is that in a particular file?
[04:17] <vas> hey in Kmix I accidentally got rid of that top bar Files Options Help thing
[04:17] <intelikey> at the grub prompr
[04:17] <vas> I right clicked n got rid of the toolbar
[04:17] <intelikey> t
[04:17] <vas> my bad how do I get it back lol
[04:17] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: when grub is counting down .. press the escape key .. then press the "e" button .. and go to the line with the parameters and press the "e" button again .. and remove quiet and splash and press the enter key then press the "b" key
[04:17] <Lord_Flasheart> cool, i will try that and let you know what's up
[04:17] <intelikey> vas alt+f2  type in kicker
[04:17] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: sure
[04:18] <vas> intelikey: nah nada
[04:18] <intelikey> vas sounds like you hid it.
[04:19] <intelikey> search the bottom top sides of the screen
[04:19] <vas> intekiley ahh god..
[04:19] <franklin> lost sucks tonight
[04:19] <intelikey> vas,   i am not.   don't you accuse me of that.
[04:20] <vas> intelikey I caught you red handed.. the search is over give up
[04:20] <vas> *vas cracks out the yamicha
[04:21] <MukiEX-da> Is anyone here getting "the mouse problem"?
[04:23] <MukiEX-da> Anyone? This mouse thing is making kubuntu unusable =(
[04:24] <eddy> helloo
[04:25] <eddy> does someone see this message?
[04:26] <MukiEX-da> Yes eddy
[04:26] <eddy> thanks!
[04:26] <franklin> lol
[04:26] <Agent_bob> eddy you can always /ping eddy   to make sure you are connected.
[04:27] <eddy> good tip!
[04:27] <ccherrett> ok this sucks!
[04:27] <vas> nooo!
[04:27] <ccherrett> I have been trying to connect my wireless for hours
[04:27] <vas> what can I do about a lost toolbar
[04:27] <Jucato> vas: which toolbar?
[04:27] <vas> KMix the File Options Help Toolbar thingy
[04:27] <ccherrett> it connects withsome commandline power but not automatically
[04:27] <vas> I can't filda place to right click
[04:27] <Agent_bob> vas   killall kicker ;kicker
[04:27] <vas> soI can get it back
[04:27] <Jucato> vas: Ctrl+M
[04:27] <Admiral_Chicago> vas: Ctrl + M
[04:27] <ccherrett> can someone help
[04:27] <vas> i fuckin love you guys
[04:28] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ha beat you! :P
[04:28] <vas> excusethe language
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: whats the problem.
[04:28] <vas> thats been drivin me nuts
[04:28] <MukiEX-da> Anyone? Mouse several pixels below where it should be?
[04:28] <MukiEX-da> Cursor not matching location?
[04:28] <vas> that was problem 1 tho, now I g2 fix my computer from makin everythin sound in a deep deep low voice
[04:28] <ubuntu> hi.. I have a question reg kubuntu install.. could someone help
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: spelling mistake...that could get ugly quick..
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask | ubuntu
[04:28] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:28] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: if I run wlassistant and then ifdown eth1 and ifup eth1 i get connectivity
[04:29] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: but not on boot
[04:29] <Admiral_Chicago> okay. I have heard of this error before not sure how to fix it other than writing a scipt
[04:29] <ccherrett> I have played with /etc/network/interfaces but nothing is working for me
[04:30] <ubuntu> I have already Redhat + win2k + win98 on my system.. how easy is it to replace REDHAT with Kubuntu???
[04:30] <MukiEX-da> Please, any help would be appreciated.  I would write a script
[04:31] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: how could I get that script to run on boot?
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: type this is a konsole
[04:32] <Agent_bob> ubuntu then what makes you think you will like ubuntu ?   you can have kde on redhat too you know ?
[04:32] <dwidmann> ubuntu: should be as easy as wiping redhat's partition(s), and reusing those for kubuntu
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> cd Desktop
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> err actually
[04:32] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to print with a Cannon bjc-265sp.  When I was setting up the printer test page worked.  However nothing else will.  Pages I try to print just stay on processing.  What should I do?
[04:32] <ubuntu> what happens to my lilo loader ??
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> cd ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:32] <stdin> ccherrett: just add a line like "pre-up wlassistant" to the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:32] <Agent_bob> it gets replaced by grub
[04:32] <dwidmann> ubuntu: Kubuntu will replace it with grub
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> touch AdmiralsScript.sh
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> nano AdmiralsScript.sh
[04:33] <ubuntu> will it retain other info in LILO reg windows installs???
[04:33] <dwidmann> it shouldn't have any trouble detecting the windows partitions and adding them to the list
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo ifdown eth1
[04:33] <kgx> lets say i have a directory and there are some subdirectories (.svn to be particular) in it. whats the quickest way of getting rid of all the .svn directories?
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> (drop down a line)
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo ifup eth1
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Ctrl + O
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Enter
[04:33] <Agent_bob> ubuntu it "should" setup up the windows partition to boot.   if it doesn't it's not hard to add an entry.
[04:34] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: ok I think it will need some iwconfig commands first
[04:34] <Agent_bob> ubuntu as far as it using any of the existing information.  NO!
[04:34] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: should I put them in first?
[04:34] <stdin> kgx: find /path/to/dir -type d -name ".svn" -exec rm -r {} \;
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> chmod 700 AdmiralScript.sh
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: if you like
[04:35] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: ok cool I will play with that
[04:35] <ccherrett> thanks
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: let me know if it doesn't work
[04:35] <ccherrett> crazy_bus: hows it going?
[04:35] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: I will thanks
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe, Ive been playing with scripts lately. not too good, but I can make it do some things
[04:37] <kgx> stdin: thanks :)
[04:37] <Agent_bob> echo -e '!#/bin/sh \n\nsudo ifdown eth1 \nsudo ifup eth1\n' > AdmiralsScript.sh ;chmod 700 AdmiralsScript.sh
[04:37] <Agent_bob> Admiral_Chicago ^
[04:38] <crazy_bus> ccherrett: about your story?  Or the printer.  The printer still isn't working
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Agent_bob: yea, that would work. like I said, i've just started playing with commands. I'll keep that in mind
[04:39] <osiris> is it possible to use mp3's or wav files for kde system sounds ?
[04:40] <Kyral> osiris: Yes
[04:40] <osiris> how.  neither work, and i have done all the stuf for playing restricted formats
[04:40] <surgy> osiris: as long as you have the proper decoder
[04:40] <surgy> !mp3
[04:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:41] <ccherrett> crazy_bus: alsa just the printer :)
[04:41] <Agent_bob> Admiral_Chicago if you use redirrects to write scripts. one odd querk you should be aware of sudo echo 'blah' > file    writes file as normal user because of the redirrect.  have to use something like    echo 'blah' | sudo tee file       just thought i'd mention that ahead of time, so it didn't supprise you.
[04:41] <surgy> !mp3 | osiris
[04:41] <ubotu> osiris: please see above
[04:41] <osiris> and thats a > yer looking for
[04:41] <lontra> anyone know if there are any official packages of the opensuse kickoff menu for kubuntu?
[04:42] <ubuntu_> pota
[04:42] <ubuntu_> de leche
[04:43] <osiris> again, not related to the kde system sounds.  playing these files in a media player works fine.  they just wont work as system sounds for kde
[04:43] <Agent_bob> !ph
[04:43] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[04:44] <Agent_bob> osiris so convert them to .au
[04:45] <osiris> good solution.  change the problem.
[04:45] <Agent_bob> i guess you are going to tell me you don't know how to "save as"
[04:46] <Agent_bob> or .ogg if you like compressed.
[04:47] <Agent_bob> osiris and if the player you are using can't do that. audacity can.
[04:48] <vas> is there a Default button for KMixer b/c I think it might be causing the low voices for my movies
[04:49] <GuyFromHell> so what would be the (k)ubuntu equivelent of running `dhcpcd eth1`?
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> Agent_bob: okay thanks i'll remember that
[04:51] <Adydaz> GuyFromHell: DHCP issues?
[04:51] <Agent_bob> Admiral_Chicago yeah it threw me for a loop the first time i ran into it.
[04:51] <Adydaz> dhclient i think is what your looking for..
[04:51] <GuyFromHell> Adydaz: wireless issues, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong
[04:51] <uranther> package from openoffice's website doesn't work either
[04:51] <uranther> same problem
[04:51] <GuyFromHell> Adydaz: that's it, I'll give it a shot from here. thanks
[04:52] <Zorix> any reason why amarok doesnt do shoutcast streams.. a get an error about a demux plugin
[04:52] <Zorix> as far as i know all codecs are installed
[04:52] <Agent_bob> !demux
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <Zorix> is there a package?
[04:53] <Agent_bob> libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:53] <Agent_bob> apt-cache search demux
[04:54] <Zorix> doesnt exist
[04:54] <Zorix> ok
[04:54] <Agent_bob> !libxine-extracodecs
[04:54] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[04:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Zorix: try #amarok maybe
[04:54] <Agent_bob> it exists in multiverse repos Zorix
[04:55] <Agent_bob> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:55] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on desktop?
[04:55] <Zorix> installed mpegdemux package and no difference
[04:55] <Zorix> oh multiverse ok
[04:56] <Agent_bob> Mena maybe right click on the icon > configure (preferances)    click the icon picture select the imbeding trashcan
[04:57] <Mena> Agent_bob, i will try
[04:58] <Uberuxterm> hey i was on the FAQ for kubuntu, it says to enable multiverse and other respotories, i have to go to synaptic, etc but kubuntu dont have it
[04:58] <Uberuxterm> so how do i enable them
[04:58] <Zorix> Agent_bob: i installed that package, same result
[04:58] <Adydaz> Uberuxterm: you need to edit it with kate
[04:59] <Adydaz> use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> what file and what do i add
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> ok
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> what do i add
[04:59] <Agent_bob> that was the full extant of my knowledge in that dirrection.  maybe someone else can help you.
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> if iw ant to enable restricted, etc and everything later i will be adding mp3 support
[04:59] <Adydaz> add the word multiverse to the end
[04:59] <Adydaz> but firstly ensure its not commented out and allkready there with a ##
[04:59] <Adydaz> err #
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> ok
[05:00] <Agent_bob> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted
[05:00] <Agent_bob> like that   ^
[05:00] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: it seems to be more complicated than I thought
[05:00] <Adydas> if you get lost try this it might help somewhat..
[05:00] <ccherrett> that script does not work
[05:00] <Adydas> http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html
[05:00] <Zorix> now it works after i kill the app a 2nd time it works
[05:00] <Zorix> thanks Agent_bob
[05:00] <Agent_bob> ccherrett does it stop and restart the eth1 interface ?
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: what do you do when you turn on wlanassist?
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> are you sure its not like wl0
[05:01] <Agent_bob> Zorix welcome.
[05:01] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob im on kubuntu 6.06ls , should i paste my sources on a pastebin and show u
[05:01] <ubuntu> Assalamualaikum w.b.t.
[05:01] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: when I run wlassistant it brings up a connection to iynksys
[05:01] <ccherrett> linksys
[05:02] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: I click on that and can see it run a bunch of commands on the command line
[05:02] <ccherrett> It fails to esstablish the connection but when I run ifup and ifdown it then works
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, not sure..
[05:03] <ccherrett> it does not work untill I run wlassistant
[05:03] <KanRiNiN> Hey.  I can't find how to switch my default file manager from konqueror to dolphin
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob ok thx
[05:04] <Agent_bob> np
[05:04] <Necronomicon> hola a todos
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob should i do this, and then upgrade to edgy
[05:04] <Necronomicon> kubuntu en espaol?
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> overwrite with tihs file and then uprade
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> upgradE*
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe start a wlanassistant before it. then I think you can make the script wait 30 seconds
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> !es | Necronomicon
[05:04] <ubotu> Necronomicon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:05] <Necronomicon> !es
[05:05] <Agent_bob> upgrading is entirely up to you.  i still run 6.6
[05:05] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: wlassistant is a GUI
[05:05] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob are we missing out on anything
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: i know.
[05:05] <ccherrett> ok
[05:05] <Agent_bob> i'm not.
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm just not sure how to help you
[05:05] <Uberuxterm> im too dumb to know the differences
[05:06] <Dr_willis> that sounds like most windows users.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:06] <Agent_bob> then you'll never miss the extra bugs.
[05:06] <Necronomicon> games for kubuntu dapper?
[05:06] <Uberuxterm> hah
[05:06] <Uberuxterm> i am a win user btw
[05:06] <Uberuxterm> on my lap
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I play lots of games
[05:06] <ForgeAus> me 2
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Puzzle Pirates is fun for a change of pace.
[05:06] <Agent_bob> you play with your lap ?    shame on you.    and shame on you for telling us.
[05:07] <Necronomicon> sotty for mi bad english room
[05:07] <KanRiNiN> Does anyone know about changing the default file manager?
[05:07] <Necronomicon> web page with kde games???
[05:07] <ForgeAus> necro skip linux games and go for emulation :)
[05:07] <Agent_bob> Necronomicon "tome"   linux game tome    that's the place to look.
[05:07] <Malay_Linux> I am using Konversation at Kubuntu Linux 6.10 Edgy Eft
[05:07] <ForgeAus> adept has lots of games
[05:08] <Dr_willis> KanRiNiN,  not too sure thats doable.. you can install others and just make some shortcuts to them on the desktop.. but i cant say that ive seen Konqueror totally disabled
[05:08] <Necronomicon> sorry i have not grafic card
[05:08] <manchicken> ubotu: firefox32 is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !games
[05:08] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:08] <Necronomicon> my grafic card is a onboard sis 630
[05:08] <cpk1> Necronomicon: there is a kdegames meta package that will install all the kde games in the repos
[05:08] <KanRiNiN> Dr_willis: Thanks.  I just read the article about it being more usable and thought I'd try.  I'll just set up dolphin /home/* shortcuts :-)
[05:09] <Necronomicon> yes kde games i have but more games?
[05:09] <Agent_bob> kdegames - KDE Games metapackage
[05:09] <Dr_willis> KanRiNiN,  i dident find dolphin mure useable. :)
[05:09] <pointfivezero> !kdegames
[05:09] <ubotu> kdegames: KDE Games metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:09] <Agent_bob> Necronomicon "tome"   linux game tome    that's the place to look. <<< repost.    google   "linux game tome"
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Not the Linux Game Tomb :)
[05:10] <Necronomicon> ok i see a https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[05:10] <Necronomicon> for more information
[05:10] <Agent_bob> Necronomicon or ignore me altogather...
[05:10] <cpk1> Necronomicon: just search the repos too, there are several free games in there
[05:10] <Necronomicon> heyy see
[05:10] <Necronomicon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZhiYff7nM
[05:11] <Agent_bob> cpk1 like apt-cache search game | wc -l
[05:12] <dawn> where can one get some kubuntu stickers?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> print some out? :)
[05:12] <dawn> to cover the ugly "Designed for Windows Xp"
[05:12] <Agent_bob> yeah print them.
[05:12] <dawn> Well..
[05:12] <Agent_bob> oh wait.  my printer don't work.
[05:12] <dawn> thats too easy
[05:13] <Agent_bob> how to get cups working ?
[05:13] <Agent_bob> medic !
[05:13] <Dr_willis> ive seen linux 'case badges' at thinkgeek, and other sites
[05:13] <dawn> i got cups to work with my  dell printer :)
[05:13] <dawn> canon pixma 1700, forget it
[05:13] <Dr_willis> i got a canon 1600
[05:14] <dawn> btw: I did wreck my ubunto ditro on the bosses laptop :)
[05:14] <dawn> *distro
[05:14] <Agent_bob> well this should almost print raw.  but cups don't work.   as in still BUSTED.
[05:14] <dawn> which model printer
[05:14] <Necronomicon> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games
[05:15] <Agent_bob> dawn lexmark 1020
[05:15] <dawn> hmmm
[05:15] <dawn> i have a rebranded lexmark
[05:15] <Agent_bob> very well supported for many years in linux.
[05:15] <Agent_bob> all i have to do is add it to cups..... except cups is hosed.
[05:15] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob, i updated the source, now when i do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll and 5-6 other things it says "package not found"
[05:16] <dawn> think geek badges are ugly
[05:16] <Agent_bob> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll - GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs
[05:16] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm that's a search from the same sources.list
[05:16] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bobwhat you mean?
[05:17] <Agent_bob> i mean i did apt-cache search gstreamer0.10-pit   and it spit out that.
[05:17] <Uberuxterm> oh
[05:17] <Uberuxterm> but it dont work
[05:18] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm   sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <Agent_bob> close package managers first.
[05:18] <Uberuxterm> im at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestricedFormats under ubuntu 6.06/6.10
[05:18] <Uberuxterm> all closed
[05:18] <Uberuxterm> just konsole open
[05:18] <Agent_bob>   ubuntu 6.06/6.10   ?
[05:19] <Uberuxterm> kubuntu site goes there
[05:19] <Agent_bob> that's dapper sources.   have you upgraded to edgy ?
[05:19] <Uberuxterm> no
[05:19] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm do lsb_release -a
[05:19] <Uberuxterm> i'm on kubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:19] <Agent_bob> ok.
[05:20] <Uberuxterm> im on dapper
[05:21] <Agent_bob> ok and what is the error ?
[05:21] <Agent_bob> you did   sudo apt-get update     ?
[05:21] <Agent_bob> did it complete without errors  ?
[05:22] <Agent_bob> am i talking to my self again  ?
[05:22] <Malay_Linux> Can buntu users get free CD?
[05:22] <Uberuxterm> i didnt do that let me try
[05:22] <Agent_bob> !shipit
[05:22] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[05:22] <slyfox> Does Koffice support .doc files ?
[05:23] <Agent_bob> which .doc ?
[05:23] <slyfox> Agent_bob: microsoft word files
[05:23] <slyfox> xp 2003
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Whats up Doc.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:23] <anees> hi
[05:23] <Uberuxterm> not much Doc
[05:23] <anees> I want to configure kannel on kubuntu
[05:23] <anees> but unable to do it
[05:24] <Dr_willis> kannel?
[05:24] <anees> can anyone help me plz
[05:24] <anees> yes
[05:24] <Agent_bob> but i don't know the answer anyway.    slyfox just pointing out that there are at least 5 .doc formats.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> never heard of it. :)
[05:24] <anees> it's a sms gateway
[05:24] <slyfox> I just wonder if it can open and save .doc word files xp and 2003 fiels ?
[05:24] <bkudria> I just posted a new version of my 'snippit' app - a script to type text snippets for you quickly.  Now with in-place replacement support!  I'd appreciate any feedback! http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52197
[05:25] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob it works now, i had to update the apt-get. thx.
[05:25] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm np.   welcome
[05:25] <Uberuxterm> i like synaptic..
[05:25] <Uberuxterm> the one on this one sucks
[05:25] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel??
[05:26] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm you will now see a lot more packages avalable in the package manager.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  then install it...
[05:26] <Adydas> Why do you need to do that anees?>
[05:26] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm install synaptic.
[05:26] <anees> to configure sms gateway
[05:26] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob u can do that/
[05:26] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob i thought it was only for gnome
[05:26] <GuyFromHell> can someone point me in the direction of making knetworkmanager work (I can get the blasted thing to work just typing in `iwconfig eth1 essid XXXXX key XXXXX` and `dhclient eth1` but I can't figure out how to replicate it in the program)
[05:26] <Uberuxterm> lol
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  you arwe thinkng  'small' :)
[05:26] <Agent_bob> this is linux.   custom is the key  and free is the word.
[05:27] <Uberuxterm> how do i install it
[05:27] <Dr_willis> you can mix and match/run gnome and kde apps
[05:27] <Dr_willis> same as ya install everything else.
[05:27] <Uberuxterm> adept sucks
[05:27] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install synaptic is one way
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  yea sure.. whatever.. You dont know how to install synaptic.. but you have enough experience to say adept suck..... :P
[05:27] <Uberuxterm> Dr_willis, i can install gnome programs too? but why dont gnome have kde apps then , like when they release it i only seen it with gnome apps, and vice versa
[05:27] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel plz
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  you should see all the apps in the menus.
[05:28] <Agent_bob> in adept  or aptitude or dselect or with apt-get     or heck you could even dl the package and use dpkg -i  to install it    or even get the suorce code and compile it.     how do you want to install it ?
[05:28] <Uberuxterm> ill do the one line easy command :
[05:28] <Uberuxterm> :D
[05:28] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:28] <Malay_Linux> I've got Dapper CD... can I get next release CD for free?
[05:29] <Uberuxterm> no there is a charge
[05:29] <Uberuxterm> haha
[05:29] <Agent_bob> Malay_Linux did you go to the shipit page ?
[05:30] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel plz
[05:30] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel plz
[05:30] <Adydas> what do you need to do that for anees
[05:30] <Agent_bob> anees what do you mean configuring kernel ?    you building from source ?
[05:30] <anees> yes building from source
[05:30] <Dr_willis> geee most pople would read the docs/man pages and figure it out.. :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> it cant be that hard.
[05:31] <dawn> question
[05:31] <Agent_bob> anees you have build-essential installed ?
[05:31] <anees> but got an error
[05:31] <anees> no
[05:31] <dawn> does grub have backups?
[05:31] <anees> plz guide me
[05:31] <Dr_willis> anees,  then why not tell us the error? instead ofbeing vague.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> dawn,  not normally
[05:31] <Agent_bob> !b-e
[05:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:31] <Adydas> shouldnt we find out why hes compiling it first
[05:31] <Agent_bob> !b-e | anees
[05:31] <ubotu> anees: please see above
[05:31] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:31] <dawn> ok nm
[05:31] <anees> ok
[05:31] <Uberuxterm> hey, how do i know the names for programs? for example, if i want to download terminal not konsole, or other programs..apt-get install <name> is there some list on sites
[05:32] <dawn> its recovery mode which is different
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !info kannel
[05:32] <ubotu> kannel: WAP and SMS gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-17 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[05:32] <Dr_willis> looks like its in the repos....
[05:32] <nn17> .
[05:32] <Dr_willis> unless one needs thelatest version.
[05:32] <Adydas> Uberuxterm: apt-cache search searchforwhatever
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  a read of the apt-get guides is WELL worth the effort.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !apt
[05:32] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:32] <Uberuxterm> nice works
[05:33] <Dr_willis> and how repositories work is anotehr thing to get educated on.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !repo
[05:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:33] <koyo001> ok i have a problem with adept
[05:33] <anees> i am installing build essential right now
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Im apt-fu skills are sort of minimal.. i reread the docs every so often to relearn stuff.
[05:33] <koyo001> keeps crashing while updating
[05:33] <koyo001> can anyone help me out with this
[05:33] <Dr_willis> anees,  you realize that package is allready in the repositories and can be installed without compiling.
[05:34] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm apt-cache search "anything you think would be in the name or discription"    and/or  apt-cache show "package-name"     for details about any give package
[05:34] <anees> how
[05:34] <Adydas> anees: apt-get install kannel
[05:34] <anees> basically i m newby in linux
[05:34] <Adydas> sudo apt-get isntall kannel
[05:34] <anees> ok
[05:34] <Dr_willis> anees,   a read of the apt-get guides is WELL worth the effort.
[05:34] <Adydas> install
[05:35] <dawn> has anyone had any broken packages after updating in the past few days?
[05:35] <anees> ok...thanx
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !info kannel
[05:35] <ubotu> kannel: WAP and SMS gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-17 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[05:35] <dawn> !ubuntu0minimal
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu0minimal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <dawn> !ubuntu-minimal
[05:35] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:35] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm sometimes i have to fillter the output   apt-cache search game | grep board | less    show me all board games installable.
[05:35] <dawn> ok so what is ubuntu-minimal?
[05:36] <dawn> machine upset over it
[05:36] <Agent_bob> !ubuntu-minimal
[05:36] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:36] <dawn> lol, i just did that
[05:36] <Dr_willis> that has to be some meta-package.. being so small
[05:36] <anees> adydas I m installing kannel
[05:36] <anees> sudo apt-get install kannel
[05:36] <Agent_bob> it's a meta package that depends on some things that the ubuntu team desided you needed.
[05:36] <anees> can u plz guide me how to configure it
[05:37] <anees> got an error
[05:37] <dawn> well all I did was atempt in installing  a wireless verizon modem and updated some packages
[05:37] <anees> while installing kannel
[05:37] <dawn> and now its broked..
[05:37] <dawn> :(
[05:37] <dawn> oh dear
[05:37] <Adydas> anees: try here
[05:37] <Adydas> http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html
[05:37] <Adydas> it worked for me..
[05:37] <Adydas> hopefully it can help you
[05:37] <anees> ok
[05:38] <Agent_bob> !worksforme
[05:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> 'configure' is NOT the same as 'compile'
[05:38] <dawn> lol
[05:38] <anees> ok
[05:38] <Agent_bob> configure != make
[05:39] <Dr_willis> and 'install'  (via apt-get) is not the same as compile, or configure. :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:39] <anees> ok
[05:39] <Agent_bob> apt-get install != {configure,make}
[05:40] <Agent_bob> ok so that last one doesn't actually work anywhere.... it was best i could do on such short notice.
[05:41] <Agent_bob> apt-get install != configure  ||  apt-get install != make
[05:41] <Agent_bob> there that one will work  :)
[05:47] <GuyFromHell> can someone help me set up knetworkmanager or point me in the direction of making it work through a guide or something
[05:47] <GuyFromHell> the wireless "tubes" work fine when I use iwconfig/dhclient but I can't get it to work therough the gui
[05:48] <GuyFromHell> (which is rather unfortunate considering the reason I downloaded feisty was to use this when I got to school)
[05:48] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob i accidently killed the gui..how do i restart x?/kde
[05:49] <Malay_Linux> I want to lunch...
[05:49] <Agent_bob> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:49] <Uberuxterm> great :(
[05:50] <Dr_willis> or 'startx' :)
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> that just restarted comp
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> man that was the command!
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> start x
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> not restart lol
[05:50] <vegasmcpc> how do i find the uuid of a device?
[05:50] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm if you want i single session    startx
[05:50] <vegasmcpc> i'm trying to add a raid5 array to my /etc/fstab
[05:50] <Dr_willis> vegasmcpc,  look in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> ok
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> my fault for not being claer
[05:50] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[05:50] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm no   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart    did not restart the computer.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> it 'restarts' the kdm service
[05:51] <vegasmcpc> Dr_willis: i need the uuid of a device that's not mounted yet
[05:51] <vegasmcpc> i'm trying to add a new drive to my /etc/fstab
[05:51] <Agent_bob> the k display manager   to be more persific
[05:51] <Dr_willis> vegasmcpc,  plug it in.. it 'should' show up in that /dev/disks-by stuff...  Hmm... no idea how uuid works with raid stuff...
[05:52] <vegasmcpc> the array is functional, i formatted it, i just don't know how to mount it or add it to my /etc/fstab
[05:53] <vegasmcpc> there was a command to find the uuid in konsole, but i can't remember it
[05:53] <Dr_willis> thers some complex command that can do it -
[05:53] <Dr_willis> but its like a /dev/sd# deviice isent it? or similer?
[05:53] <Agent_bob> echo $UUID  ?
[05:53] <Agent_bob> uid ?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> thats User id.  :) not the devices UUID.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[05:53] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:54] <Agent_bob> blklist
[05:54] <Agent_bob> blkid
[05:54] <Bearcat> hello all
[05:54] <Agent_bob> which ever you have.
[05:54] <jbruckman> hello!
[05:55] <fakepatriot> can anyone tell me how to install things from a cd with Wine?
[05:55] <Agent_bob> also tune2fs will show the UUID for an fs i think...
[05:55] <Bearcat> i'm an oldie to linux but a newbie to kubuntu. I just installed kubuntu 6.06 (it was the only disc i had). Clicking on Fetch Updates in synaptic gives me no changes. Can i assume this is because the repository addresses are out of date? if so, where can i download a good default repository file from?
[05:55] <Bearcat> jbruckman: hello
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Bearcat: no, it fetches updates, but doesn't install them
[05:56] <fakepatriot> did you enable all of the deb repositories?
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> for that you want to commit changes or something like that. ful upgrade
[05:56] <fakepatriot> oh yeah...yoiu need to click apply changes to install them...
[05:56] <Agent_bob> tune2fs -l /dev/hda1 | grep UUID         addressing may very.
[05:57] <Bearcat> hmmm
[05:57] <koyo001> where can i get a wmv viewer
[05:57] <Agent_bob> vlc
[05:57] <fakepatriot> !mplayer
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Bearcat: did you apply?
[05:57] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[05:57] <koyo001> does anyone know
[05:57] <koyo001> mplayer
[05:57] <Agent_bob> koyo001 you just got two answers
[05:57] <Agent_bob> vlc  and mplayer
[05:58] <koyo001> vlc
[05:58] <fakepatriot> yep
[05:58] <Agent_bob> how many do you want ?
[05:58] <koyo001> thanks
[05:58] <koyo001> will try searching them
[05:58] <fakepatriot> !vlc
[05:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:58] <fakepatriot> !mplayer
[05:58] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[05:58] <Bearcat> there we go. Got it!
[05:58] <Agent_bob> !info vlc
[05:58] <koyo001> i just want one
[05:58] <Bearcat> Thanks :)
[05:58] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[05:58] <koyo001> but one that plays everything
[05:58] <Agent_bob> that's the one i meant   ^
[05:59] <fakepatriot> can anyone tell me how to install things from a cd with Wine?
[06:00] <Agent_bob> wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[06:00] <Agent_bob> ?
[06:00] <fakepatriot> does that work?
[06:00] <fakepatriot> ill try
[06:00] <Agent_bob> some times.
[06:00] <fakepatriot> well it's WoW
[06:01] <Agent_bob> beats me, never tried it.
[06:01] <fakepatriot> nice
[06:01] <koyo001> i have problems with adept
[06:01] <fakepatriot> neh doesn't seem to be working....
[06:01] <koyo001> it says it cannot commit packages
[06:02] <fakepatriot> did you give it $3?
[06:02] <koyo001> can anyone help me out
[06:02] <Agent_bob> echo $3 1 2 3
[06:03] <Agent_bob> koyo001 what are you trying to do in adept ?
[06:03] <fakepatriot> no actually im not sure what is wrong...i am only about a week or two into linux...
[06:04] <koyo001> just trying to instsall
[06:04] <draik> What is a good P2P app?
[06:04] <draik> The new frostwire won't start
[06:04] <Bearcat> wow. adept is nice
[06:04] <koyo001> or upgrade
[06:04] <Bearcat> sure alot faster then my distro :)
[06:04] <koyo001> does not let me do anything
[06:05] <Agent_bob> koyo001 open a konsole and type in     sudo echo yes
[06:05] <Necronomicon> kubuntu minimal requirements?
[06:05] <Agent_bob> lets make sure you have sudoers rights.
[06:05] <bigredradio> "Network Manager" sees my wireless device as a wired device. Anyone heard of this before?
[06:05] <koyo001> ok typed it
[06:06] <koyo001> what is that command supposed to do
[06:06] <Agent_bob> did it way  yes ?
[06:06] <koyo001> reset
[06:06] <koyo001> yes
[06:06] <koyo001> it said yes
[06:06] <koyo001> but what does that mean
[06:07] <Agent_bob> means sudo is working ok . hmmmm   kill the adept package manager and do this.
[06:07] <Necronomicon> kubuntu system minimal requeriments
[06:07] <Necronomicon> ??
[06:07] <Agent_bob> kdesu adept
[06:07] <Agent_bob> no wait.
[06:07] <Jucato> on Dapper: kdesu adept
[06:07] <Agent_bob> that wont give you output.
[06:07] <Jucato> on Edgy: kdesu adept_manager
[06:07] <draik> What is a good P2P app?
[06:08] <Jucato> draq
[06:08] <Agent_bob> Jucato we need output.
[06:08] <Jucato> draik: of which kind?
[06:08] <Jucato> Agent_bob: run it in Konsole?
[06:08] <Jucato> draik: torrent = KTorrent is good enough for regular needs.
[06:08] <draik> music
[06:08] <Agent_bob> yes.  but kdesu will dump the output to null wont it ?
[06:08] <Jucato> oh that kind...
[06:08] <Jucato> Agent_bob: hm...
[06:09] <koyo001> ok
[06:09] <koyo001> so in the end
[06:09] <koyo001> what the hell am i supposed to do
[06:09] <Agent_bob> koyo001 try  kdesu adept_manager
[06:09] <Mena_> hey pla some one see this fstab http://pastebin.com/886375
[06:09] <Mena_> bec i had a problem with fat32
[06:09] <koyo001> humm
[06:09] <Agent_bob> lets see if it gives error messages in the konsole.
[06:09] <koyo001> will try that
[06:10] <Jucato> Agent_bob: it does give messages before it starts running
[06:10] <koyo001> is kdesu a program
[06:10] <Agent_bob> Jucato but if there are errors while running ?    i don't think the konsole will get them will it ?
[06:10] <Agent_bob> yes
[06:10] <Agent_bob> like sudo
[06:10] <koyo001> or a command
[06:10] <Jucato> except if it crashes
[06:10] <Mena_> plz*
[06:10] <Agent_bob> !kdesu
[06:11] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:11] <Jucato> koyo001: a command is a program :)
[06:11] <Agent_bob> Mena_ what problem ?
[06:11] <koyo001> ok gimme a sec
[06:11] <Mena_> Agent_bob, the fat32 cant be mounted
[06:12] <Jucato> can or can't?
[06:12] <Mena_> cant*
[06:12] <Mena_> sorry ^_^
[06:12] <Jucato> what error is "mount" giving you?
[06:12] <Mena_> hey its cant
[06:12] <Mena_> sorry again
[06:12] <Mena_> hehe
[06:13] <Mena_> jucato, can't find hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:13] <koyo001> ok tried it
[06:14] <Agent_bob> Mena_ so try the physical address rather than the UUID for that fs
[06:14] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3
[06:14] <Jucato> Mena_: what command are you using to mount it?
[06:14] <Jucato> I'm also not sure if "defaults" should be in there
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fdisk -l will list them
[06:14] <Jucato> oh, and it should be "vfat" not "fat32"
[06:15] <Agent_bob> Jucato defaults is fine there.  but it should be mounted at boot with those settings.
[06:15] <Jucato> ah ok
[06:15] <Agent_bob> yes vfat or auto
[06:15] <Jucato> the line generated by mountconfig for me doesn't have defaults
[06:15] <Agent_bob> Mena_ Jucato found it.    vfat
[06:16] <Jucato> there is a very unknown GUI for creating mount points and mounting in Kubuntu :)
[06:16] <Mena_> jucato, so what is the solution here bec i am lost
[06:16] <Mena_> :)
[06:16] <Jucato> Mena_: change fat32 to vfat first
[06:16] <Agent_bob> Jucato i've done it with and without defaults,   doesnt matter. anything after that takes priority.
[06:16] <Mena_> jucato, ok
[06:16] <Agent_bob> Mena_ change fat32 to vfat
[06:17] <Agent_bob> i'm slow.
[06:17] <Mena_> agent_bob , ok
[06:17] <Mena_>  :)
[06:17] <Agent_bob> koyo001 so how goes the war now ?
[06:18] <koyo001> well no change
[06:18] <Agent_bob> is it working ?  is it not ?    do we have error messages to work with ?
[06:18] <koyo001> trying to update to see if it can do it
[06:18] <Agent_bob>  do we have error messages to work with ?
[06:18] <koyo001> not working from what i can see
[06:19] <koyo001> stays jammed
[06:19] <koyo001> frozen
[06:19] <Agent_bob> eeeek.
[06:19] <koyo001> at 0 %
[06:19] <Agent_bob> and no messages in the konsole ?
[06:19] <Jucato> at these times, it's better to try using apt-get
[06:19] <Mena_> What vfat its fat16
[06:19] <koyo001> none
[06:19] <Mena_> ??? :)
[06:19] <Jucato> Mena_: it's both
[06:19] <Jucato> vfat = fat16 *and* fat32
[06:19] <Agent_bob> koyo001 ok kill that and do an       sudo apt-get update
[06:20] <Mena_> jucato , ok but the part is fat32  i didnt get you right
[06:20] <Jucato> Mena_: change the entry in fstab from fat32 to vfat
[06:21] <Jucato> Mena_: because Linux sees fat16 and fat32 as one type of filesystem = vfat
[06:21] <Agent_bob> Mena_ actually vfat = vertual (fat == "file allocation table")
[06:21] <Mena_> ok :)
[06:21] <Jucato> or "virtual" :D
[06:21] <Mena_>  8-)
[06:21] <Agent_bob> yeah that too
[06:21] <Agent_bob> on tuesdays
[06:22] <koyo001> doing a apt get update
[06:22] <koyo001> ok that worked
[06:23] <Dr_willis> and fat21 ?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> and fat12
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:23] <Agent_bob> koyo001 ok now you can      sudo apt-get upgrade           or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   if you prefer.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> apt-get me a beer
[06:23] <Agent_bob> very little differance in the two but they are different.
[06:24] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis and fat8 for that matter can be mounted as  vfat
[06:24] <Mena_>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/disk/by-uuid/45D5-3FDE, missing codepage or other error
[06:24] <Mena_>   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:24] <Mena_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:25] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob, can i download theme packs, etc? using apt-get ..what is something good for kde 3.2 window decorations
[06:25] <Jucato> you sure you got the correct UUID?
[06:25] <Agent_bob> Mena_ ok so now try the address like i mentioned first.
[06:25] <Mena_> jucato , yes
[06:25] <Agent_bob> !kdelook
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdelook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Jucato> Mena_: first try using /dev instead of UUID
[06:25] <Jucato> !themes | Uberuxterm
[06:25] <ubotu> Uberuxterm: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:25] <Jucato> !changethemes | Uberuxterm
[06:25] <ubotu> Uberuxterm: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:26] <Mena_> ok
[06:26] <Adydas> Nvidia lack of GLX how do i fix that?
[06:26] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm that   ^
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hello all
[06:26] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[06:26] <Agent_bob> !ati | Adydas
[06:26] <ubotu> Adydas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <DaSkreech> how are you?
[06:26] <koyo001> ok
[06:26] <Adydas> and err why is  Load    "glx" in my xorg.conf
[06:26] <Adydas> i dont use ati
[06:26] <Adydas> i use nvidia and its installed
[06:27] <Jucato> Adydas: points to the same page
[06:27] <koyo001> still stuck
[06:27] <Adydas> and apparantrly the module is active
[06:27] <koyo001> did the apt get
[06:27] <koyo001> that worked
[06:27] <Agent_bob> koyo001 message  ?
[06:27] <jbruckman> why is everything so laggy?
[06:27] <jbruckman> is it the server, or just me?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Jucato: If ou need me Ping :)
[06:27] <Mena_> jucato , agent_bob, i did that delet the uuid and type /dev/hda3 and now its telling me cant find
[06:27] <koyo001> Reading package lists... Done
[06:27] <Agent_bob> jbruckman servers are lagging a little tonight
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: working on another window
[06:28] <koyo001> last message posted from apt get
[06:28] <Mena_> jucato , agent_bob, i did wrong ?
[06:28] <Jucato> DaSkreech: do I ever need you? :)
[06:28] <Jucato> j/k
[06:28] <jbruckman> Agent_bob: okay. glad it isn't just me then.
[06:28] <Jucato> koyo001: that's from "sudo apt-get update" right?
[06:28] <jbruckman> Agent_bob: thanks
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: No you are the man! But I can't help hanging on your magnificent coattails
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: can you blame me?
[06:28] <Jucato> hahah :)
[06:28] <Agent_bob> Mena_ sudo fdisk -l | grep hda
[06:28] <c-ron> how can i get the kmix sound control applet back into my system tray upon boot? right now it only displays when i load kmix manually
[06:29] <koyo001> yeah sudo apt get
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: i did a mad lag a bit ago. its the network
[06:29] <Adydas> Is this good? direct rendering: Yes
[06:29] <Jucato> !autostart | c-ron
[06:29] <ubotu> c-ron: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:29] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:29] <ashu_> #join #ltsp
[06:29] <Jucato> c-ron: put a link to /usr/bin/kmix in ~/.kde/Autostart folder
[06:29] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob how do i switch between Window managers?
[06:29] <Jucato> Adydas: yes. that means you have OpenGL direct rendering
[06:29] <Jucato> Uberuxterm: from the Session type in the Login Screen
[06:29] <c-ron> thanks, i'll try those
[06:29] <Agent_bob> Mena_ that should show you the partition you are looking for.   if it's no longer hda3  then adjust apropretly.
[06:29] <Uberuxterm> ok
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> you could just right click. create link to application. That's a simple way for me to do it c-ron & Jucato
[06:30] <Uberuxterm> Jucato i cant do it if im already in kde?
[06:30] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:30] <Adydas> ok so what does this error mean, Assertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684]
[06:30] <koyo001> =jucato
[06:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: notice I said "link". I didn't specify which kind of link for some reason :)
[06:31] <Jucato> koyo001: ok, what were you doing in Adept that make it say "can't commit changes"?
[06:31] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm not sure kde will let you do that.  twm blackbox fluxbox icewm xfce   and a few others will let you switch from the menu.
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: good point. I'm going to bed
[06:31] <koyo001> upgrading
[06:31] <koyo001> or trying to download a package
[06:31] <Jucato> koyo001: you clicked on Full Upgrade?
[06:31] <koyo001> yeah
[06:31] <Jucato> koyo001: try to do the same using apt-get. see if it will give you errors
[06:32] <Mena_> Agent_bob, the command you give me didnt work i did that sudo fdisk -l and its hda3
[06:32] <stdin> Uberuxterm: you can try just killing kwin and starting the other window manager from konsole
[06:32] <koyo001> how can i run it
[06:32] <koyo001> what command
[06:32] <koyo001> to make full upgrade
[06:32] <Jucato> koyo001: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" <---that's the equivalent of Full Upgrade in Adept
[06:32] <koyo001> from the console right???
[06:33] <Agent_bob> Mena_ ok.   try this.    sudo mount /dev/hda3 -t vfat /media/hda3
[06:33] <Mena_> Agent_bob, in any way i try it again and its hda3
[06:33] <koyo001> ok
[06:33] <Uberuxterm> stdin what would i type in to start enlightenment?
[06:33] <koyo001> same problem
[06:33] <Agent_bob> if that says anything then lets see it.
[06:33] <koyo001> but i know where it crashes
[06:34] <Mena_> Agent_bob, it didnt say any thing i think it mounted it
[06:34] <stdin> Uberuxterm: probably just "enlightenment"
[06:34] <koyo001> it crashes at loading the  sun-java5-bin
[06:34] <Agent_bob> Mena_ lets see the line in the fstab again    after you have adjusted it.
[06:34] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:34] <c-ron> how can i set fstab to mount vfat drive r/w for users?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> it's one line you can put it here.
[06:35] <Jucato> Uberuxterm: it's not really advisable to manually start another window manager without killing the currently running one, afaik
[06:35] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:35] <Agent_bob> c-ron man mount   / mask
[06:35] <Mena_> UUID=/dev/hda3         /media/hda3    vfat    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:35] <Jucato> errr...
[06:35] <stdin> Mena_: UUID=/dev/hda3 ???
[06:35] <Agent_bob> Mena_ remove   UUID=
[06:35] <Jucato> remove the "UUID="
[06:36] <Mena_> hahahah sorry
[06:36] <Agent_bob> Mena_ :)
[06:36] <Agent_bob> c-ron note the line that Mena_ posted.   see the  umask=   that's sort of what you want.
[06:37] <koyo001> help
[06:37] <koyo001> help
[06:37] <Croooow> using mapping with guessnet for my eth0 in interfaces. my PC Card NIC isn't automatically configuring -- I have to do a manual ifup after insertion. if I use just iface, it does automatically configure. any ideas?
[06:37] <c-ron> is umask= value like chmod?
[06:37] <Jucato> koyo001: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:37] <Agent_bob> c-ron M$ file systems don't have permissions bits  so the linux system sets a vertual permission for the whole fs.
[06:38] <Agent_bob> so yes sort of.
[06:38] <c-ron> okay
[06:38] <Mena_> Okay friends its finaly mounted hehehehehehe ....Good Work
[06:38] <koyo001> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:38] <Mena_> Sorry i was stupied  :)
[06:38] <underdog5004> ahhh, I finally dropped that 200 gig into my torrent server...I feel accomplished... (just wish I'd known that I'd set my cdrom to be master even though it was slave-on-cable...)
[06:39] <stdin> c-ron: umask is kinda the opposite of chmod, it takes permissions away from 777, chmod add permissions to 000
[06:39] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[06:39] <underdog5004> howdy
[06:39] <Agent_bob> c-ron if you read in the man page.  you will note that there are three masks   umask dmask and fmask
[06:39] <brett_> my mplayer will not play movies off of the web... is there a better program to us
[06:39] <brett_> e
[06:39] <ForgeAus> brb
[06:40] <Adydas> brett_: VLC
[06:40] <stdin> maybe a codec issue tho, brett_
[06:40] <koyo001> how do i send the message directly to you jucato
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> mplayer-plugin
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> brett_: ^^
[06:41] <brett_> i can watch the movies fine if i download them first
[06:41] <Jucato> koyo001: what do you mean?
[06:41] <brett_> i have the plugin... it trys to load but ends up taking forever and never loads
[06:41] <Jucato> sleep Admiral_Chicago! sleep...
[06:41] <brett_> !adept_crash
[06:41] <brett_> !adept crash
[06:41] <koyo001> to make my message in red for you to see it better
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept_crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[06:41] <brett_> !adeptcrash
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <koyo001> what is the keys to put before your name
[06:42] <Jucato> !adeptfix | brett_
[06:42] <ubotu> brett_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:42] <brett_> thanks Jucato
[06:42] <Jucato> koyo001: just mention my nick an I will see it in red
[06:42] <Jucato> it's automatic
[06:42] <stdin> koyo001: just type the nick name, like this message will appear red to you
[06:42] <Mena_> Jucato, this must enble permisison ofr me right (((sudo chmod 777 /media/hda3))
[06:42] <Mena_> for*
[06:43] <koyo001> jucato ok
[06:43] <Jucato> Mena_: hmmm? afaik, you don't need to do that, since you set umask already
[06:43] <Mena_> jucato, but i cant past any file in it
[06:43] <koyo001> jucato  dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:44] <Jucato> Mena_: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 0
[06:44] <Jucato> wow! what a coincidence.. we both have FAT32 on the same partition...
[06:44] <koyo001> jucato that was the error message that apeared
[06:44] <Agent_bob> Mena_ no. the umask=007,gid=46   is where you get perms
[06:44] <Jucato> koyo001: is Adept closed when you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[06:44] <Mena_> jucato, heheeh ok
[06:44] <Agent_bob> might i sujest the gid might be wrong
[06:44] <koyo001> jucato yes
[06:45] <Jucato> !adeptfix | koyo001
[06:45] <ubotu> koyo001: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:45] <Jucato> koyo001: enter those commands ^^^^
[06:45] <Jucato> (from sudo to -a)
[06:46] <koyo001> jucato
[06:46] <Jucato> koyo001?
[06:46] <koyo001> jucato did that
[06:46] <Jucato> and?
[06:47] <koyo001> jucato and where do i go from there
[06:47] <Agent_bob> Mena_ you can    man mount    for help with vfat mounting   and note to all  search in the manpages is  /  or ? for backwards
[06:47] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:47] <Croooow> does anyone see why my eth0 interface requires a manual ifup? here is my '/etc/network/interfaces', sanitized of course ;-) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6987/
[06:47] <koyo001> jucato because these are the same commands i am running and they still dont yield result
[06:47] <Jucato> koyo001: it finished processing and stuff? apt-get and adept should be working properly now
[06:48] <koyo001> jucato well its not
[06:48] <Jucato> koyo001: ok. what command are you using right now to test if it's working or not? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:48] <koyo001> jucato stays jammed installing the sun java 5
[06:48] <Jucato> koyo001: in Adept?
[06:48] <koyo001> jucato yeah
[06:49] <Jucato> koyo001: ok... don't use Adept when installing Java
[06:49] <Agent_bob> kinda like the EULA of the free world    man man   when you find your way out you can install.
[06:49] <Jucato> koyo001: use the command line. close Adept again and run "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" again
[06:49] <Jucato> koyo001: just remember. don't use Adept for installing Java or Flash or VMWare
[06:49] <koyo001> jucato the problem is if i am using the console it is one of the recomended updates therefore tries to update it automaticaly
[06:50] <Agent_bob> console != konsole
[06:50] <Jucato> koyo001: then upgrade in Konsole
[06:50] <koyo001> jucato exactly that is the problem
[06:51] <Jucato> koyo001: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:51] <koyo001> jucato it automaticaly starts the upgrade till sun java5
[06:51] <Jucato> koyo001:  in Konsole. not in Adept
[06:52] <Jucato> !java
[06:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:52] <Jucato> there
[06:52] <Jucato> boy was that annoying...
[06:52] <koyo001> jucato douing everything from konsole
[06:52] <Jucato> koyo001: just for java, just for this time
[06:52] <c-ron> good i can r/w now to my vfat drive. thanks!
[06:53] <Agent_bob> c-ron welcome.
[06:53] <koyo001> jucato
[06:53] <koyo001> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:53] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:53] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:53] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>-11.35_i386.deb
[06:53] <koyo001> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:53] <Jucato> !pastebin | koyo001
[06:53] <ubotu> koyo001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:53] <Jucato> next time use that when pasting multiple lines
[06:54] <Jucato> koyo001: try "sudo apt-get -f install" (fix install)
[06:54] <Agent_bob> -f = fix missing
[06:55] <koyo001> gives me errors
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Kubuntu doesn't ship with firefox
[06:55] <koyo001> jucato how do i use pastebin
[06:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh?
[06:55] <DaSkreech> !paste | koyo001
[06:55] <ubotu> koyo001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Jucato: The Ubuntu book says Kubuntu ships with the latest firefox
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: really? let me know what pages, I'll send it to the proper channels
[06:56] <Jucato> DaSkreech: oh I think they fixed that after Edgy was released
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> that was for Dapper LTS
[06:56] <DaSkreech> AdmiChap7 Page 252
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> the official ubuntu book that is,
[06:56] <koyo001> jucato gave me error
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: I'm reading the next version now
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: new == ?
[06:57] <Jucato> koyo001: I'm a bit confused on what to do next...
[06:57] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6990/
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Read ^^^
[06:57] <koyo001> well maybe if you knew what the error was
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> workin on it
[06:58] <koyo001> witch i cant post not to flod the channel
[06:58] <gugu^> How to auto mount a floppy
[06:58] <DaSkreech> koyo001: Pastebin gave you an error?
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> an argument can be made about language. technically it is installed but not by default
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: Feisty version?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Good guess :)
[06:59] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech the ubuntu pastebin gives me errors.
[06:59] <Agent_bob> i can read but can't post.
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: What errors?
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: hmm, you might read my recipe then at some point
[06:59] <Agent_bob> no biggy i just use another pastebin.
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: They have Kubuntu recipes?
[07:00] <koyo001> not pastebin
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: so it's sent away know, it should be addressed soon
[07:00] <Jucato> koyo001: paste the errors in pastebin. click on paste. then give us the link
[07:00] <Mena> Agent_bob, the same i cant make any thing with permisison
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no, i sent one about Ubuntu, basically how to install Kubuntu desktop
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Cool
[07:00] <Mena> Agent_bob, i tried many things
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> and Edubuntu and Xubuntu
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Ha ha :) They have that in this chapter :)
[07:01] <Mena> or jucato ???:)
[07:01] <Agent_bob> Mena ?   still wrong umask fmask dmask uid gid settings ?
[07:01] <Jucato> Mena: please paste the line in your fstab again
[07:01] <Mena> ok
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: well, my recipe should be included so I get a free book :). Going to bed now officially
[07:02] <Agent_bob> Mena oh and you have to sudo mount -o remount /media/hda3   for changes in fstab to take affect
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Night
[07:02] <Mena> Agent_bob, i restart
[07:02] <Agent_bob> Mena   sudo mount -o remount /media/hda3
[07:02] <Agent_bob> don't restart.... this is not window.
[07:02] <Mena> Agent_bob, ok
[07:02] <Agent_bob> pfft.
[07:03] <Agent_bob> mena how much access to you want >?
[07:03] <Mena> agent_bob, all permisison for me
[07:04] <koyo001> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:04] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>-11.35_i386.deb
[07:04] <koyo001> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:04] <koyo001> humm that did not work very well
[07:04] <koyo001> try to paste it
[07:04] <Mena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6993/
[07:04] <koyo001> tried to paste it
[07:04] <Agent_bob> change the line to.    /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat dmask=022,fmask=133,uid=<put your uid here> 0 0
[07:04] <Adydas> how do you get fps from glxgears?
[07:05] <Adydas> no man file :/
[07:05] <Mena> ok
[07:05] <Agent_bob> Mena if you don't know your uid.   echo $UID
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Adydas: --iacknowledgethatthistooolisnotabenchmark
[07:06] <Agent_bob> something like   *,uid=1000 0 0
[07:06] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech tooo many ooos
[07:06] <Agent_bob> in toool
[07:06] <DaSkreech> oooooooh!
[07:07] <xoss> when installing kdevelop 3.4 i get this error when i do ./configure:
[07:07] <xoss> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: it's not correct, it will be fixed. good looking out
[07:07] <Agent_bob> xoss install build-essential
[07:07] <Agent_bob> xoss why are you building ?
[07:08] <piro> does ssh go off of the users on the local computer? so if the comp was named hole.com and a user jon was on it you could do ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and you would just enter w.e password jon had locally no?
[07:08] <xoss> will try to use kdevelop..
[07:08] <Jucato> xoss: um? Kdevelop is available from the repos
[07:08] <Jucato> the latest stable
[07:08] <Jucato> 3.4
[07:08] <Agent_bob> piro yep
[07:09] <piro> well then my local is completely f'ed in the hole
[07:09] <piro> i get permission denied rofl
[07:09] <Adydas> ok whats a good benchmark fps program for kubuntu ( that it can use )
[07:09] <Jucato> xoss: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[07:09] <xoss> i tried it but it didnt find the package, i tried using apt-get
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> xoss: apt-cache search will let search
[07:10] <xoss> tried it to..
[07:10] <Jucato> xoss: you need to add the kubuntu.org repository for kde 3.5.6
[07:10] <Agent_bob> piro is sshd running on that hole ?
[07:10] <xoss> i even edit the sources.list
[07:10] <xoss> hmm..
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> oh Jucato is right as always
[07:10] <piro> i've done /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[07:11] <piro> and i get bac restartin openBSD secure shell server
[07:11] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: heh not always. and you should be sleeping
[07:11] <Mena> agent_bob, i couldnt make any thing in  any way i coppied the file i need with terminal until i come again to see this thig more clrearly
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm eating EasyMac...might as well be productive
[07:11] <muuhBDX>  thers alarm in car that dosenT stop its 6 am FFS !
[07:11] <Mena> clearly* .........thanks friends :)
[07:11] <muuhBDX> cant you do something about it !!!?
[07:11] <Agent_bob> Mena would you care showing me the one line from the fstab now ?
[07:12] <Mena> Agent_bob , ok
[07:12] <Agent_bob> i'll just make sure it's sane.
[07:12] <Mena> Agent_bob , ok
[07:12] <Jucato> muuhBDX: we certainly can't. so there's no reason to announce that here
[07:12] <muuhBDX> im not so sure
[07:13] <Mena> as jucato said its the same as mine so take his line and put it(( /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users      0       0
[07:13] <Agent_bob> muuhBDX true it could get you kicked out of the channel.....  that would always help you...
[07:13] <Jucato> Mena: er.. make sure that the uid and gid there matches yours
[07:13] <Agent_bob> no  there are no mask's in that.
[07:13] <Mena> agent_bob, 1000 = 777 or not
[07:14] <Mena> :)
[07:14] <Jucato> yep no masks. it automatically gives me ownership of the mount/partition
[07:14] <Agent_bob> no there are NO mask 's in that you just posted.
[07:14] <Mena> so what is the wrong here ~_~
[07:14] <piro> what command do i use to see what services/daemons are running?
[07:14] <Mena> i think its on me
[07:14] <Mena> heheh
[07:14] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 0
[07:15] <Agent_bob> that's what you said   ^
[07:15] <Mena> ok so
[07:15] <Mena> jucato , said 1000=777 so what is wrong
[07:15] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[07:15] <Agent_bob> that's what i said  ^
[07:15] <piro> nm with ps aux | grep sshd I found that yes it is running
[07:15] <Agent_bob> see the "mask" 's
[07:15] <Jucato> Mena: I never said 1000=777
[07:16] <Agent_bob> Mena try that    ^
[07:16] <Mena> jucato, you told me that 1000 give you the owner ship right
[07:16] <Agent_bob> Mena try that    ^
[07:16] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[07:16] <Jucato> Mena: mask = for permissions, not ownership
[07:16] <Jucato> 1000 is my User ID (uid).
[07:16] <Mena> Agent_bob, ok..........Jucato, ok
[07:17] <Mena> Agent_bob,so the wrong is on me heheeh :)
[07:17] <Jucato> 1000 is also my Group ID (gid)
[07:17] <Agent_bob> Mena too many cooks in the kitchen
[07:17] <Agent_bob> or is it kooks ?
[07:17] <Jucato> by putting uid=1000, I have complete ownership of that partition/mount. and by being the owner, that gives me permissions
[07:17] <Mena> heheeh :D
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !ps3
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !xbox
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <piro> !ssh
[07:18] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:18] <Agent_bob> Jucato i also told him to use   echo $UID    i don't think he did.
[07:18] <Mena> Agent_bob,no i did it was 1000
[07:19] <Agent_bob> piro firewall blocking port 22 ?
[07:19] <Agent_bob> Mena ok.
[07:19] <Mena> ok
[07:19] <Jucato> Agent_bob: this cook is going out of the kitchen now. you have the pots :)
[07:19] <Agent_bob> and when you save that   sudo mount -o remount /media/hda3
[07:20] <Agent_bob> test it    it works now.
[07:20] <Mena> no its not
[07:20] <Mena> i just copied the line you gave....any wrong here or i must change the fmask
[07:20] <Jucato> oops! the cook was supposed to be out
[07:21] <Agent_bob> Jucato yeah redundant.  i add mask you add id he still don't get perms.
[07:21] <Jucato> actually, I didn't tell him to add anything. I just showed him *my* fstab line... generated by the mountconfig GUI
[07:21] <Agent_bob> Jucato worth a try.
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: how can I check what version of kdm i'm using. i did kdm -v and kdm --version but those don't wonk
[07:22] <Agent_bob> Mena sudo umount /dev/hda3
[07:22] <Mena> Agent_bob , ok
[07:22] <Agent_bob> Mena sudo mount /dev/hda3
[07:22] <Agent_bob> now try it.
[07:22] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: apt-cache policy kdm is the only other way I can think of
[07:22] <Agent_bob> if that works i'll throw all the pots and pans at Jucato
[07:22] <Jucato> O.O
[07:23] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> brilliant
[07:23] <Mena> okay the cook has been out
[07:24] <Agent_bob> Mena ?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> is that a yes or no ?
[07:24] <Mena> or had i dont know i dont remeber the gramer good bec its not primary lang (eng)
[07:24] <Mena> its working
[07:24] <Mena> i can  past to it
[07:25] <Mena> Agent_bob, Yes...Jucato, yes ....all here yes :)
[07:25] <Mena> thanks
[07:25] <Jucato> good to hear
[07:25] <Agent_bob> ok i learned that -o remount only works where you specify the options.     i have used it that way on occation.   mount -o remount,ro   or ,rw   or even ,nosuid     .... jucato  you win.   it's all yours now.
[07:25] <fullmetal> someone got a sec for an install question?
[07:25] <Mena> thanks thanks that you carry me
[07:26] <fullmetal> ????????
[07:26] <Mena> hhaahahh me to i will add steps you give the tips note :)
[07:27] <Mena> to*
[07:27] <Jucato> !ask
[07:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:27] <fullmetal> oh
[07:27] <fullmetal> well i am trying to do an install and it says i have a bad archie mirror
[07:27] <fullmetal> archive
[07:28] <Agent_bob> fullmetal so pastebin your sources.list
[07:28] <fullmetal> ?? im doing an install
[07:28] <Jucato> !pastebin | fullmetal
[07:28] <ubotu> fullmetal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:28] <fullmetal> on a laptop, over network
[07:28] <Jucato> fullmetal: installing Kubuntu?
[07:28] <Jucato> oh...
[07:28] <Jucato> hm...
[07:29] <fullmetal> im on desktop, gentoo
[07:29] <Mena> bye bye Agent_bob bye bye Jucato....thanks
[07:29] <koyo001> still cannot run adept
[07:29] <Mena> :D
[07:29] <Agent_bob> Mena welcome
[07:30] <fullmetal> so anyone haev an idea?
[07:30] <Necronomicon> wowwwwwwww!!! a big lot of linux games  http://gaming.gwos.org/
[07:34] <surgy> WOW!!!
[07:34] <Forge> L(
[07:34] <Forge> grrr damn typos
[07:34] <Forge> :)
[07:34] <niblets> When I try to connect Amarok to my iPod, I get the following message "KLibLoader could not load the plugin:libamarok_ipod-mediadevice     Error message:/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_ipod-mediadevice.so: undefined symbol:_ZN6amaroK9StatusBar10s_instanceE
[07:34] <niblets> Is there any way to fix this?
[07:35] <Forge> how come linux apps depend on so much version-specific stuff?
[07:36] <Forge> every time I try to add or remove anything QT it says its goina breaks something else...
[07:37] <Forge> and this package I'm trying to compile needs qt h eaders >= 3.0
[07:37] <bumzo> hi good kubuntu pple
[07:37] <eeanm> which means you don't have any qt headers at all Forge
[07:37] <bumzo> i need help
[07:37] <surgy> forge: i had the same problem i had to add the bleeding edge kubuntu repo and update to fix
[07:37] <bumzo> how do i get to ''korganiser'' ??
[07:38] <Jucato> bumzo: through Kontact
[07:38] <eeanm> surgy: qt 3.0 is like... 5 years old?
[07:38] <Forge> eek bleeding edge? sounds like trouble
[07:38] <Jucato> or Alt+F2, "korganizer"
[07:38] <eeanm> hardly bleeding edge!