[12:00] <exjinn> other wise my first day with ubuntu has gonna damn well
[12:00] <Matthew_W> exjinn:  makes sense.  Gnome has no support built in for that, so I'm not entirely sure.
[12:00] <anatole> re
[12:00] <Matthew_W> exjinn:  I'm sure there's a proggy for it.  Ask google.
[12:00] <Matthew_W> lol
[12:00] <anatole> umm a lame question: where do i set programs to load automatically at startup?
[12:00] <a-l-e> nalioth: the installing failed doing it... and somewhere on the net i've read that it's normal... now i'm reading that i should do some linuxrc magic... but i can't figure out how to do it :-(
[12:01] <exjinn> heh good idea. anyone seen a problem with md5sum mismatch while doing apt-get upgrade?
[12:01] <giangi82> see u
[12:02] <Matthew_W> exjinn:  Yeah, there's a big thing about that, someone else knows how to fix it here... I think it's something to do with your sources.list file including us.****.**** in the address, and you just have to remove the us.
[12:02] <lakin> anatole, when you mean startup, do you mean the linux boot sequence, or when you log into your desktop?
[12:02] <anatole> lakin: my desktop
[12:02] <exjinn> let me give that a go
[12:02] <lakin> System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[12:02] <exjinn> thanks for your help btw Matthew
[12:02] <Matthew_W> anatole:  system - preferences - sessions
[12:02] <matt__> I'm having a problem i just installed ubuntu for the first time and I can't  change the resolution above 1024x768 can anyone help?
[12:03] <nalioth> a-l-e: you can add a line to your yaboot.conf taht allows you to hit a certain key during boot to point to the fw drive
[12:03] <anatole> oh thank
[12:03] <Matthew_W> exjinn: no problem
[12:03] <anatole> s
[12:03] <Matthew_W> matt__:  oh, there is a step for this... I had to do it.. but it's been so long ago I forget what it is...
[12:03] <Matthew_W> matt__:  Something about rerunning the configuration for the xorg...
[12:04] <matt__> ok let me search there website
[12:04] <a-l-e> nalioth: googling for that line...
[12:04] <quam> any good wysiwyg html editors for linux?
[12:05] <nalioth> a-l-e: you should be able to open the .conf and monkey-see monkey-do it
[12:05] <Matthew_W> matt__:  maybe    $ sudo xinit ?
[12:05] <Matthew_W> matt__:  sorry, it's been ages.
[12:05] <nalioth> quam: mozilla-composer, nvu, quanta
[12:05] <exjinn> quam: screem or quanta are my picks
[12:05] <quam> haha, di dyou just say mozilla-composer? :p
[12:05] <exjinn> haven't used screem in a min though
[12:05] <lakin> matt__, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:05] <exjinn> if you are looking for something like dreamweaver..eh..nothing I know of
[12:06] <Matthew_W> matt__: there, lakin's got it.
[12:06] <quam> yeah, something somewhere close to dreamweaver would be nice, but i don't expect t find it :p
[12:06] <exjinn> quanta has web preview in your browser but its not really the same
[12:06] <exjinn> works good enough for me though?
[12:06] <exjinn> :)
[12:06] <a-l-e> nalioth: ok... i think that it's ok just to add a line in yaboot.conf to let him boot on the firewire... the problem with xinitrc is that the kernel should be able to load enough soon the fire wire drivers.
[12:07] <exjinn> ibm was working on a dreamweaver like app for linux but I think its vaporware nowadays
[12:08] <matt__> ok
[12:08] <nalioth> a-l-e: i'm not sure about kernel stuff, but a mounted drive is a mounted drive
[12:08] <kvidell> vaporware?
[12:08] <kvidell> hehe
[12:08] <kaz> omg. still having debootstrap @ coreutils problem.
[12:09] <scott_> still having moniter troubles sigh
[12:09] <PhantomFreak> OK, So I can dial out to my ISP, but once connected it won't do anythin! It just sits there saying it cannot connect! Not even some of the reload libraries command works in Synaptic Manager. Nothing will connect!
[12:09] <Matthew_W> quam:  actually, there are things very very close to dreamweaver/frontpage
[12:09] <exjinn> hell point me to them
[12:09] <Matthew_W> quam:  visit good old uncle google at www.google.com/linux
[12:09] <Matthew_W> quam:  Linspire comes default with some, I'm told.
[12:09] <a-l-e> nalioth: ok, thank you! i think that i change the yaboot entry and then try to reboot... if i'm not back in the next five days, it means that it didn't work :-)
[12:10] <nalioth> Matthew_W: yes, nvu was mentioned to him
[12:10] <shido> what does kde use for sound , its not esd
[12:10] <nalioth> a-l-e: you'll still have the other options
[12:10] <Matthew_W> nailoth:  oh, sorry, I cleared the screen x-x
[12:10] <a-l-e> (but first i finis reading some notices about initrc..)
[12:10] <nalioth> a-l-e: you know how to update the bootloader, right?
[12:10] <quam> exjinn: thanks, quanta look like it should work well enough
[12:10] <yaaar_work> shido: arts
[12:11] <a-l-e> nalioth: i've written somewhere ... i will find it, yes :-)
[12:11] <shido> arts...
[12:11] <shido> hrmm
[12:11] <nalioth> a-l-e: cuz just writing to yaboot.conf won't do it
[12:11] <shido> how do I change it to use esd?
[12:11] <PhantomFreak> anyone?
[12:11] <exjinn> Matthew removing the us. infront of the apt sources entries worked like charm
[12:12] <Matthew_W> exjinn:  Glad to hear it.  That's been happening for days.
[12:12] <yaaar_work> shido: i don't really know....i've never used esd by choice; ubuntu comes using it by default, but i think that's the only time i've had it
[12:12] <Matthew_W> PhantomFreak: one sec..
[12:12] <exjinn> now I gotta figure out my stuttering audio
[12:12] <quam> actually i take that back exjinn :P i dont want to edit code i want to edit it like im looking at the thing :p
[12:12] <Matthew_W> PhantomFreak:  hrm... no experience with dialing out.. sorry X_X
[12:12] <nalioth> quam: mozilla-composer
[12:13] <quam> nahoth:  i hope it's better than netscape composer :P
[12:13] <Matthew_W> exjinn: in what programs does your audio stutter?
[12:13] <PinguPowa> #gentoofr
[12:13] <kaz> I've burnt as low is 4x now. This is pathetic.
[12:13] <kaz> Is there somewhere to report this as a bug? This is a bug.
[12:14] <exjinn> the only one I've tired to play mp3's in is beep media player, it occasionally stutters I'm wondering if its because esd and alsa are running
[12:14] <a-l-e> nalioth: yes yes i know! it's something like ybin... i already use linux ppc on this machine :-) now i'd like to try if it also works the easy way ... but not too easy :-)
[12:14] <Matthew_W> kaz:  bugzilla.ubuntu.com  I think
[12:14] <exjinn> I'm going to install xmms as soon as my upgrade finishes
[12:14] <nalioth> a-l-e: well then, you got it goin on
[12:14] <kaz> is there *anything* else I can do here?
[12:15] <Matthew_W> exjinn:  beep and xmms are essentially the same, with the exception that beep uses GTK+2.0 etc...  If the audio stutters in one, it will most likely stutter in the other.
[12:15] <Matthew_W> exjinn:  Try changing your audio output in beep to esound, if it's not already
[12:16] <konrad> Matthew_W: I've just connect - can't he just set up Alsa Dmix?
[12:16] <kaz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22086   no replies to that... like 3 months ago.
[12:16] <PhantomFreak> The dial-up is on my laptop as a backup (thought I'd get it working just incase I need it) and it's not working... I got through the problem with the software modem, managed to dial out but now nothing is working! Is there some kind of odd thing like you have to mount the modem or something... How does the computer normally know to look on the network?
[12:17] <_heart> can i install devian packages on kubuntu?
[12:18] <kaz> I've been trying to install unbutu for like 3 days now. I love it on my notebook.. but this is just silly.
[12:18] <Matthew_W> konrad:  probably -- I'm new at the giving advice thing
[12:18] <Matthew_W> lol
[12:18] <LinuxJones> PhantomFreak, sudo network-admin sook @ default fateway device
[12:18] <Matthew_W> konrad:  I had a similar problem until I switched to esound, though, now it sounds amazing
[12:18] <LinuxJones> *look
[12:18] <LinuxJones> argh default gateway PhantomFreak sorry horrid typing
[12:19] <PhantomFreak> It only has eth0 which is the ethernet!
[12:19] <kaz> I've tried 3 different cd-roms, burnt the CD to 4 different types of media @ as low as 4x, used different cd-recorders, used different cd-rom drives... still get debootstrap errror @ Coreutils.... same spot every time.  Any suggestions??
[12:19] <LinuxJones> PhantomFreak, is your modem listed under the devices section ?
[12:19] <PhantomFreak> yep
[12:20] <PhantomFreak> It dials OK, but nothing will use it!
[12:20] <ccc> is anybody using ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net in synaptic? i was thinking about updating firestarter, gaim, gedit, gimp, firefox, xchat etc from there...
[12:20] <penguinboy> evening guys!
[12:20] <Matthew_W> g'day
[12:20] <penguinboy> g'day mate
[12:21] <_Magog_> im having trouble getting things off synaptic, i get md5 mismatches from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[12:21] <kaz> in the process I deleted the existing os... so now I am stuck here until I can replace the os :(
[12:21] <LinuxJones> PhantomFreak, I would assume that's where you would tell it which device to use but I guess not :(
[12:21] <ccc> _Magog_: i think it's temporarily broken
[12:21] <justin> _Magog_: ccc: read the topic
[12:22] <_Magog_> kk
[12:22] <mcking> hey all
[12:22] <penguinboy> Magog...the repositories are down
[12:22] <PhantomFreak> Holy Sh*t, I got it to work!
[12:22] <LinuxJones> mcking, hi'
[12:22] <Matthew_W> _Magog_:  I have a solution for you
[12:22] <LinuxJones> PhantomFreak, what was it ?
[12:23] <Matthew_W> _Magog_:  remove the "us." in that link in your sources.list file
[12:23] <Matthew_W> _Magog_:  http://archive.ubuntu.com....     will make it work correctly.
[12:23] <_Magog_> tyvm
[12:23] <PhantomFreak> In the modem settings there was a box to make it default internet access thingy!
[12:23] <mcking> ok, where do I go to get involved in gnome and ubuntu?
[12:23] <Matthew_W> _Magog_: no problem.
[12:23] <LinuxJones> PhantomFreak, ahh
[12:23] <PhantomFreak> Now only problem is might not work with my eth now!
[12:23] <mcking> I have some time on my hands for the summer
[12:24] <_scott_> Who was I just talking to
[12:24] <kaz> ugh. This is lame.
[12:25] <_scott_> Who was I just talking to with my video card stuff
[12:25] <Grumbly> I've got a 20.5 gig drive.  I expect only 2 or 3 users, But It's been a while since i've set up a disk for linux.  Any help for minimum sizes for /var /proc /usr/opt (and anything else) would be appriciated.
[12:25] <Gandalfar> Grumbly: don't bother
[12:25] <Grumbly> why?
[12:25] <Gandalfar> Grumbly: take around 6gb for /
[12:25] <Gandalfar> Grumbly: other for /home
[12:25] <Grumbly> is the kernel that good now?
[12:25] <Grumbly> Gandalfar: don't worry about setting /var?
[12:25] <Matthew_W> What's a reliable p2p for linux?
[12:25] <Gandalfar> Grumbly: yea, you're not building a server
[12:26] <mcking> Grumbly: I concur w/ Gandalfar
[12:26] <Grumbly> ok
[12:26] <PhantomFreak> Cool, they both work now! It looks for the modem when not connected to eth!
[12:26] <Grumbly> thanks
[12:26] <justin> um, 6G + 6G is 12G, not 20.5G
[12:26] <PhantomFreak> LinuxJones Thanks
[12:26] <mcking> 6GB for /, a swap partition and the rest for home
[12:26] <LinuxJones> PhantomFreak, sweet, I don't have a modem but it's good to know :)
[12:26] <nalioth> Grumbly: howd you come out yesterday?
[12:27] <_scott_> I'm having problems with my sound blaster audigy 2 zs. can somebody please help me
[12:27] <Grumbly> any help getting X11 to work on a g4 cube with a 17 ADC monitor would be nice too.
[12:27] <Grumbly> (ppc)
[12:27] <Grumbly> OH yeah, what's the smallest swap I should set?
[12:27] <nalioth> Grumbly: whats up with it?
[12:27] <chatmeister> linux makes the Baby Jesus happy
[12:28] <nalioth> Grumbly: how much ram ya got?
[12:28] <Grumbly> nalioth: all the info in the wiki didn't work
[12:28] <Grumbly> nalioth: 384
[12:28] <_scott_> nalioth: hello?
[12:28] <nalioth> Grumbly: set yer swap double
[12:28] <nalioth> _scott_: yes?
[12:28] <mcking> Grumbly: rule of thumb is 2 x memory, up to about 1G
[12:28] <Grumbly> for X, i went nuts lookin for info, changed the xorg.conf sooo many times
[12:29] <mcking> Grumbly: smallest should be 1 x memory
[12:29] <Grumbly> mcking: thanks-  I thought so, but mostly use a PC so I thought ppc may be different
[12:29] <PhantomFreak> For future reference... The tick box in question is under Modem Preferences, Options.
[12:29] <ChinaCatJones> how would one change the default behavior of installing fonts from a per user basis to a per machine basis under theme manager?
[12:29] <PhantomFreak> I think the ethernet also has to be off!
[12:29] <mcking> Grumbly: you can also set up a swap file later if you start running out of memory
[12:29] <_scott_> I'm having problems with my sound blaster audigy 2 zs. can somebody please help me
[12:29] <ilba7r> any one know why in open office the dictionary does not work and the font is set to invisible in drawings???????????????
[12:30] <[angelofdeath0] > hello
[12:31] <thechitowncubs> I got my Ubuntu CD's today :)
[12:31] <thechitowncubs> I was surprised, they are really nice
[12:31] <Grumbly> nalioth: the error I was getting on gdm had to do with v_bios
[12:31] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: great! how many windoze users ya got lined up for installation parties?
[12:31] <thechitowncubs> haha, we'll see as time goes by
[12:31] <Shachaf> Which driver should I use, eepro100 or e100?
[12:31] <[angelofdeath0] > is there a easy way to create a backup of a master boot record?
[12:31] <Grumbly> but I couldnt find enough info on the Studio display to set the right stuff
[12:31] <Beuno> hey there!    I got an ubuntu server over here (no GUI), and I just put a DVDRW on it, so I can backup stuff. With what can I burn them?  Cant seem to find anything to burn it from command line.  Any ideas?
[12:32] <Grumbly> and I can
[12:32] <Shachaf> According to /etc/hotplug/blacklist, eepro100 should no longer be used.
[12:32] <chatmeister> what do you need cd's for
[12:32] <nalioth> Grumbly: i'm not sure how much help i'll be on yer cube/adb issue, but i'll see
[12:32] <Grumbly> nalioth: it's not adb.  it's the vid connector, ADC
[12:32] <Shachaf> I can't get either one of them working, though.
[12:32] <mcking> Beuno: cdrecord, or do you mean an "all in one" like k3b
[12:32] <Grumbly> like dvi but some other stuff in it
[12:32] <nalioth> Beuno: cdrecord
[12:32] <thechitowncubs> One thing I think that is needed, is a step by step installation guide (for the total noobs). Sort of like a quick guide, is there any documentation like this out there, or should I start making one myself?
[12:32] <Grumbly> nalioth: do you think looking at some gentoo info would help me?
[12:32] <nalioth> mcking: Beuno has no xserver
[12:33] <_scott_> I'm having problems with my sound blaster audigy 2 zs. can somebody please help me
[12:33] <nalioth> Grumbly: linux is linux and hardware is hardware, what works for the goose, usually works for the gander
[12:33] <thechitowncubs> Hoary is better than FC4, just in case anyone was wondering :)
[12:33] <mcking> nalioth: i know, i am asking if he is looking for a tool similar to k3b but for the command line / curses
[12:33] <Grumbly> nalioth: good point
[12:33] <Beuno> ok, didnt think I could burn DVDs with cdrecord.  Now to the second part.  It doesnt seem to be knowing I have a DVD recorder, so I cant burn.  Any ideas?
[12:34] <Grumbly> so anyone here familiar with V_bios issues on a CUBE?
[12:34] <nalioth> Beuno: are you using the latest cdrecord?
[12:34] <foodcoman> cdrdao mkisofs??
[12:34] <[angelofdeath0] > hmm
[12:34] <Beuno> just did apt-get a few min ago
[12:34] <Grumbly> nalioth: oh yeah, just incase I should come across the apple display info, would you like me to provide a link for you?
[12:34] <nalioth> Beuno: that doesnt guarantee that you are using the LATEST one, just the latest one available from ubuntu
[12:35] <_scott_> I'm having problems with my sound blaster audigy 2 zs. can somebody please help me
[12:35] <Grumbly> and might you be able to provide me with custom modeline info?
[12:35] <mcking> Beuno: cdrecord -scanbus
[12:35] <nalioth> Grumbly: i thank ya, but the oldest mac i have is all usb/firewire (no adb, thankfully)
[12:35] <mcking> paste the output here
[12:35] <thechitowncubs> One thing I think that is needed, is a step by step installation guide (for the total noobs). Sort of like a quick guide, is there any documentation like this out there, or should I start making one myself?
[12:35] <[angelofdeath0] > i want to do a dual boot and it says to make a back up of the MBC.
[12:35] <exjinn> the wiki is a pretty good place to start for newbies
[12:35] <Grumbly> nalioth: this one has no adb... ADC is the video connection from the cube to the monitor
[12:35] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: that sounds great! if ya need help just ask me
[12:36] <nalioth> Grumbly: i aint got one of them either
[12:36] <exjinn> I'm not really a linux newbie but definately new to ubuntu
[12:36] <thechitowncubs> I just wanted to make sure no one else is doing it already?
[12:36] <r0bby> use the wiki
[12:36] <r0bby> and google :)
[12:36] <Beuno> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a38 (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
[12:36] <Grumbly> the display is the apple studio display 17 (adc) and I just found the info~
[12:36] <Grumbly> whoot!
[12:36] <r0bby> and i felt the install was pretty self explainatory
[12:36] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: have a good look at the wiki, see what's there, sign up and edit/create anew/whatever
[12:36] <gm78> hey all. i am currently running the kaffeine available through apt on ubuntu. it crashes often and then the cpu usage spikes to 100% until i kill all the kaffeine processes
[12:36] <chatmeister> michael jackson was found not guilty
[12:36] <gm78> anyone else noticed this
[12:36] <thechitowncubs> I'm capable of installing, I just want to make it easy for other people that aren't as capable
[12:36] <[angelofdeath0] > heh goggle dont help with this
[12:37] <glDaher> totem comes with no codecs?
[12:37] <glDaher> it refuses to play anything
[12:38] <nalioth> glDaher: ubuntu doent use proprietary/non-open-source licensed things by default
[12:38] <thechitowncubs> glDaher: it comes with codecs that are open source
[12:38] <mjr> only unencumbered codecs come by default
[12:38] <Beuno> mcking: cdrecord -scanbus isnt returning anything usefull, just a bunch of warnings
[12:38] <_scott_> For some reason my sound card isn't working with linux. I just hear the beeps
[12:38] <mcking> glDaher: from universe, install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[12:38] <Beuno> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[12:38] <mcking> glDaher: see if that helps
[12:39] <xophEr> glDaher, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=108587&postcount=1 there's a nice thing too
[12:39] <[angelofdeath0] > bleh
[12:39] <nalioth> glDaher: install all the gstreamer plugins
[12:39] <Grumbly> Oh, one more thing.  When I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I kept getting an error near the end of the process about
[12:39] <[angelofdeath0] > http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:40] <Grumbly> "possible custom configureation"
[12:40] <glDaher> thats what am doin... thx ppl
[12:40] <Grumbly> how the heck do I disable thaT?
[12:40] <_scott_> For some reason my sound card isn't working with linux. I just hear the beeps. I have an Audigy 2 zs
[12:40] <nalioth> Grumbly: the error didnt allow you to continue?
[12:40] <Grumbly> nalioth: nope.  it quit the reconfigure
[12:40] <justin> glDaher: or totem-xine
[12:41] <Grumbly> it had the filename xorg.conf.1276543987156 after it, always different than the one before, so rm xorg.conf.* dint fix
[12:41] <mcking> Beuno: cdrecord -scanbus dev:/dev/hdc
[12:41] <kvidell> what's a good stand-alone address book app that has vCard support?
[12:41] <mcking> Beuno: or whatever your dvdr is on
[12:41] <Grumbly> I ended up going in as root and trying it that way but even that didnt work
[12:41] <kvidell> I'm installing groupwise addressbook right now
[12:41] <im`Alv|aw> !seen padlefot
[12:41] <ubotu> im`Alv|aw: i haven't seen 'padlefot'
[12:41] <im`Alv|aw> !seen padlefot_
[12:41] <ubotu> im`Alv|aw: i haven't seen 'padlefot_'
[12:42] <kvidell> groupWARE, sorry
[12:42] <justin> Grumbly: uh, the custom configuration refers to xorg.conf itself
[12:42] <justin> Grumbly: read the top of xorg.conf.
[12:42] <Grumbly> justin: it was refering to the automatically generated backups of xorg.conf
[12:42] <mcking> Beuno: if that give you a good response, you use the same dev: option to burn with.  'man cdrecord' for more
[12:42] <Grumbly> not the conf file itself
[12:42] <mcking> Beuno: WARNING! dense man page ahead!! :)
[12:43] <justin> Grumbly: no, it wasn't.
[12:43] <[angelofdeath0] > 3. Once done, _absolutely_ make a backup of your MBR (Master Boot Record). See Google.. :)<-- google only shows you how to repair it after it is corrupted
[12:43] <Grumbly> trust me.  ls xorg.conf.* in /etc/X11/ and you will see
[12:43] <justin> Grumbly: who is the one with the problem, you, or me?
[12:44] <exjinn> suggestions for a burning software besides k3b?
[12:45] <Beuno> mcking: what would be a good response?
[12:45] <jeff25> dieman: haha nice host
[12:45] <[angelofdeath0] > ...lol
[12:45] <Hal900X> hello
[12:45] <Matthew_W> Oy.
[12:45] <Hal900X> does there exist a php5 backport for ubuntu 5.04?
[12:45] <mcking> Beuno: one of the lines should have something like this:    1,0,0   100) 'SAMSUNG ' 'CDRW/DVD SM-348B' 'T504' Removable CD-ROM
[12:46] <[angelofdeath0] > .. does anyone know?
[12:46] <mcking> Beuno: yours will be specific to your drive
[12:46] <Shachaf> Has anybody had trouble with the eepro100 card under Ubuntu?
[12:46] <Matthew_W> no idea.
[12:46] <Matthew_W> lol
[12:46] <Shachaf> I can't get it to work.
[12:46] <nalioth> Beuno: i read somwehere about a bash frontend to cdrecord. google "bash cdrecord" (mighta been at sourceforge)
[12:46] <Beuno> mcking:   :(
[12:46] <dieman> jeff25: thanks
[12:46] <dieman> we just had a 1.5 hour downtime on the t1
[12:46] <dieman> that sucked
[12:47] <dieman> i think this t1 gets more downtime than my dsl line
[12:47] <PhantomFreak> I've got it woking quite reasonably now... When the eth is off it will attempt to dial out...
[12:47] <dieman> too bad im moving, so i lose the dsl
[12:47] <dieman> cable only at the new place
[12:47] <Beuno> mcking: I got webmin on it also, so Im using that as a front end once I get to to recognize my device
[12:48] <[angelofdeath0] > ~~_
[12:48] <zakann> Oh, sorry, is there any french connected here?
[12:48] <Shachaf> nalioth: Would that be TCDR? tcdr.sf.net
[12:48] <zakann> I've got a little problem with unicode support in Xirc
[12:48] <zakann> oh, Xchat
[12:48] <Matthew_W> zakann: on parle anglais ici, alors, il y a un autre canal pour ubuntu en francais, mais, j'ai oublie le nom...
[12:49] <Matthew_W> Anyone know the french ubuntu channel?
[12:49] <thechitowncubs> Is anyone an official Ubuntu member here?
[12:49] <thechitowncubs> I'd like to become one and don't know how to do this: A cryptographic (GPG) signature on the text of the code itself sent to Benjamin Mako Hill
[12:49] <Shachaf> Matthew_W: #ubuntu-fr?
[12:49] <zakann> Matthew_W, you're french?
[12:49] <Matthew_W> zakann:  Canadian
[12:49] <zakann> Matthew_W, il y avait un channel franais, mais l, y a plus on dirait, comprends pas
[12:50] <zakann> mais c rcent, j'y tais encore la semaine dernire
[12:50] <Matthew_W> ah, ok.
[12:50] <zakann> comprends po
[12:50] <Matthew_W> moment
[12:50] <zakann> moment?
[12:50] <chillywilly> anyone ever rip an audio CD to wav files with soud juicer?
[12:51] <jeff25> chillywilly: you might be the first one
[12:51] <a-l-e> mmmh... back again without having rebooted...
[12:51] <Grumbly> justin: if the error is refering to xorg.conf then why would A) it work when modifying by nano and b) not remove the old files?
[12:51] <a-l-e> ... can somebody help me with mkinitrd?
[12:51] <thechitowncubs> lol jeff
[12:52] <jeff25> sorry I couldn't resist
[12:52] <paxmaster_> my freind hed gave me his mac powerbook G3 laptop and i am planning to install linux on it
[12:52] <Grumbly> but most importanly, how do I fix it?
[12:52] <chillywilly> shutup
[12:52] <chillywilly> ;P
[12:52] <jeff25> :P
[12:52] <jeff25> heh
[12:52] <justin> Grumbly: 18:42 < justin> Grumbly: read the top of xorg.conf.
[12:52] <a-l-e> ... i'm trying to make an initial ram disk for a future ubuntu install... but i don't have the same kernel installed on this system... is there a way to go?
[12:52] <paxmaster_> i have a ubuntu live cd and the problem is that i never use use mac before
[12:52] <Grumbly> kinda cant right now
[12:52] <chillywilly> well the progress bat never moves at all when I select WAV filers
[12:52] <chillywilly> files*
[12:52] <paxmaster_> and how could i boot from the cd
[12:53] <paxmaster_> in mack
[12:53] <jeff25> Grumbly: how come?
[12:53] <thechitowncubs> Ya, chillywilly, when i tried it took forever and I just gave up.
[12:53] <Shachaf> paxmaster_: I think you hold down the "C" key while you boot.
[12:53] <Shachaf> paxmaster_: I remember reading that somewhere.
[12:53] <jeff25> chillywilly: I use grip instead
[12:53] <[angelofdeath0] > hello
[12:53] <chillywilly> hmmm, but I don't see where I can set it to ouput wavs
[12:53] <Grumbly> don't have a terminal available
[12:53] <chillywilly> on grip
[12:53] <misfit-toy> hmm, I have a weird mouse lag, about every 10 seconds, don't see anything in 'top' that leads me to something, and gkrellm is showing excellent resources available, any ideas?
[12:54] <paxmaster_> ok thank is ubuntu is ok to install in mac G3
[12:54] <Grumbly> anyone got a conf to msg or dcc me?
[12:54] <jeff25> chillywilly: I think it's a cdparanoia option
[12:54] <Grumbly> just the headder
[12:54] <zakann> Is there any french here?
[12:55] <Shachaf> paxmaster_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallOnOldWorldMacs
[12:55] <jeff25> chillywilly: if you use cdparanoia as the backend ripper...
[12:55] <jeff25> chillywilly:  -w --output-wav                 : output as WAV file (default)
[12:55] <LinuxJones> a-l-e, you needed to compile a kernel for some support not in the regular Ubuntu kernel ?
[12:55] <fissy> hello, a friend has a 4 year old laptop with a cd drive that is just creaking along - she can't reinstall windows to it because the drive doesn't make it through a whole disc without getting totally stuck on something. I think she'd be willing to try ubuntu. Is there a small net install disc?
[12:55] <Shachaf> paxmaster_: (First result for "Ubuntu G3" on Google.)
[12:55] <paxmaster_> thx a lot
[12:55] <Grumbly> justin: can you send me your conf?
[12:55] <Grumbly> please
[12:55] <chillywilly> jeff25: what about just selecting Rip Only ;)
[12:56] <[angelofdeath0] > ..
[12:56] <misfit-toy> fissy, I believe you can boot to the first cd then type 'linux askmethod' and use ftp to install.
[12:56] <jeff25> chillywilly: try it... I'm not able to test it atm
[12:56] <fissy> okie, i'll give that a try misfit-toy
[12:56] <fissy> thanks
[12:56] <misfit-toy> np
[12:56] <chillywilly> jeff25: I've used it in the past
[12:56] <jeff25> chillywilly: there should be a optoins page that lets you set the backend params for cdparanoia etc
[12:57] <chillywilly> there's configuration stuff galore in grip
[12:57] <Grumbly> bah... i'd probably get more help on efnet #hotdates
[12:57] <jeff25> chillywilly: yeah
[12:57] <chillywilly> jeff25: one thing I have observed is that you must turn paranoia and extra paranoia off or you will never get the CD ripped ;)
[12:59] <chillywilly> bah, isn't numbering the wav files
[12:59] <jeff25> chillywilly: I honestly couldn't say...  Sorry
[01:02] <Grumbly> then I get all second guessy and go and re read the same info again
[01:02] <Grumbly> kvidell: thanks for the honesty
[01:02] <Grumbly> justin seems to be lacking that quality
[01:03] <jeff25> lol
[01:03] <Grumbly> jeff25: you have any experience with X?
[01:03] <jeff25> yup, but I'm too scared to help
[01:03] <Grumbly> how about with xorg.conf
[01:04] <Grumbly> I'm positive that's where I have the problem
[01:04] <jeff25> I do'nt even know what the problem is
[01:04] <yaaar> hey Grumbly, were you gonna ask a question about xorg.conf, or just taking a poll as to how people would react if you did?
[01:04] <_heart> i have a dualhead graphic card... i've made changes in my xorg.conf as in a tutorial... do i have to do install xinerama or is it already there!?
[01:04] <optik> it is already there
[01:05] <Grumbly> crap... I can't remember the exact error.  something about v_bios not found or no v_bios found
[01:05] <[angelofdeath0] > is the backup of the MBR required for a dual os boot?
[01:05] <zukalk> hey all
[01:05] <kvidell> but just to make sure I have facts straight so I can go digging and see if I find anything.. you're trying to get X to work properly on an Apple G4 cube running Hoary with what we'll call a Generic 17" CRT display?
[01:05] <_heart> ok, then bet i come back in a few minutes after restarting x :)
[01:05] <Grumbly> yaaar: anger was directed at a single dumby
[01:05] <xirtam> hmm, i changed to xorg and it seems very unstable ... what could be a reason for that (every 10 min. the hole server freezes ... / using fluxbox ... ) any ideas?
[01:05] <[BAF64] > i have ubuntu installed, installed kernel headers, but cant find them anyplace
[01:05] <[BAF64] > any ideas?
[01:05] <Grumbly> kvidell: no.  it's an apple ADC studio 17
[01:05] <optik> xirtam:  are you using hoary/
[01:05] <Grumbly> there's some weird modeline inf
[01:06] <xirtam> optik: yes
[01:06] <[BAF64] > where do the headers go
[01:06] <[BAF64] > cause, i need them
[01:06] <jeff25> xirtam: are you the op in efnet #c
[01:06] <[BAF64] > stupid thing doenst go to /usr/src
[01:06] <yaaar> Grumbly, yeah, sure, that's cool....i don't care abuot that.....just can't figure out what you want to know about xorg.
[01:06] <optik> you say "changed"
[01:06] <optik> what do you mean by that?
[01:06] <xirtam> jeff25: no sorry
[01:06] <mako> thechitowncubs: you can also just fax a signed letter
[01:06] <mako> or scan and email
[01:07] <nalioth> mako howzit goin?
[01:07] <jeff25> xirtam: oh btw
[01:08] <Razor-X> I just realized how un-stringent our school's word processing standrds are
[01:08] <Grumbly> yaaar: why when i run the dpkg-reconfigure (after the md5sum > /var.. and so on) it fails and gives an error akin to possible cusom configuration: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2093513
[01:08] <jeff25> xirtam: fluxbox in main is broken I found... (unless they fixed it)
[01:08] <Razor-X> it'll take almost no effort to do my documents in LaTeX henceforth
[01:08] <Grumbly> yaaar: and how do I fix that?
[01:08] <nalioth> Grumbly: have you been to penguinppc.org?
[01:08] <Grumbly> nalioth: yeah, but I may have missed something.  any specific sections?
[01:09] <nalioth> Grumbly: havent been there myself, but i know it aims at mac support of the older type mac
[01:09] <yaaar> Grumbly, have you tried simply movng the offending config file to some other directory prior to the dpkg-reconfigure and then either moving it back, using the new one, or just reconfiguring it?
[01:10] <Grumbly> yaaar: yep
[01:10] <yaaar> and it still fails, or it won't work after the configure
[01:10] <yaaar> ?
[01:10] <dennis_> Can anyone help me install my ati drivers?
[01:10] <concept10> Okay, I have got to get this figured out so I may complete my Ubuntu transition.  Firefox reports the wrong version to the Mozilla extensions site.  How do I fix this?  I changed the version in about:config already
[01:10] <Grumbly> brb
[01:11] <jeff25> concept10: did you exit the browser?
[01:11] <nalioth> concept10: then you should be ok
[01:11] <jeff25> concept10: i.e. restart it
[01:11] <paxmaster_> i can't get to boot the cd
[01:11] <ecarroll> Is there anyway i can tell what version of gcc a kernel is built with as it sits on a repository.
[01:11] <thechitowncubs> mako: I'd rather just send it the GPG way, want to give me some instruction?
[01:11] <paxmaster_> in mac
[01:11] <paxmaster_> i am holding the c down
[01:11] <nalioth> paxmaster_: what kind of mac?
[01:11] <dennis_> Can anyone help me install my ati drivers? I can not seem to find which one to download or how to install it...
[01:12] <Grumbly> yaaar: still fails
[01:12] <paxmaster_> mac powerbook G3
[01:12] <jeff25> xirtam: my advice is to compile fluxbox yourself and check install it.  your configure flags should at minimum include --disable-xmb
[01:12] <Grumbly> nalioth: it's not all that comprehensive.
[01:12] <Grumbly> ppcnerds.org is a bit better
[01:12] <nalioth> paxmaster_: have you tried the <option> key instead of <c> ?
[01:12] <ecarroll> Is there anyway i can tell what version of gcc a kernel is built with as it sits on a repository; I am installing VMWare, and it requires i have the same version of gcc to make a module for it, unforntuatly the gcc on the repos with v3.3.5 is a symlink to a newer gcc and that just doesn't float with VMWare i need to know if the new 2.6.12, is built with the newer gcc or if i should just download sources and build my own
[01:12] <concept10> jeff25, nalioth: Is there anyway to save about:ocnfig or do I just close the window
[01:12] <paxmaster_> no
[01:12] <nalioth> Grumbly: thx for the heads up, guess the nerds are short of info on this also, eh?
[01:13] <jeff25> concept10: it autosaves
[01:13] <paxmaster_> i nerver used mac in my life
[01:13] <jeff25> paxmaster_: be proud
[01:13] <nalioth> concept10: once you change the value, like was said, restart it
[01:13] <paxmaster_> it my friend
[01:13] <Grumbly> a bit
[01:13] <Grumbly> I'd love to get it working
[01:13] <Grumbly> then post the fix/info
[01:14] <nalioth> Grumbly: dja see the 'upgrade' in the mac swindle sites today?
[01:14] <concept10> Okay, I must have to change the app.extensions versions
[01:14] <nalioth> Grumbly: a G4 cube 'upgrade' via a Pentium-M
[01:14] <nalioth> concept10: just the vendorsub line
[01:14] <computerguy867> i have a question about ssh...My university subscribes to Safari Bookshelf(Oriellys ebook service) and when Im on the campus netowrk and I access this site, the site recognizes that Im on the network. I am now home for the summer but would like to access this service.  The university has some linux machines that I can ssh into.  If possible, how can I use port fowarding to access the site as If i was on the network?
[01:15] <nalioth> computerguy867: port forwarding would need to be set up at the uni
[01:15] <paxmaster_> ah the option is the alt key
[01:15] <nalioth> computerguy867: i believe
[01:15] <nalioth> computerguy867: don't you have a user/pass?
[01:15] <computerguy867> yes
[01:15] <computerguy867> how would I use ssh to do this
[01:16] <nalioth> computerguy867: and even with user/pass, it still wants you on the property?
[01:16] <justin> ecarroll: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/VMware
[01:16] <concept10> nalioth, okay, that might do the trick. I was changing something entirely different. I basically ytyped version in the filter box and just changed the version.
[01:16] <computerguy867> Im not sure how to do portforwarding and ssh
[01:16] <dennis_> Anyone here have an ATI GPU?
[01:16] <nalioth> concept10: no need for anything but the vendorsub line
[01:16] <bert> dennis_: i do
[01:16] <dennis_> bert, what model?
[01:16] <computerguy867> naloith: Im not sure how to use ssh in this way and what parameters to use
[01:16] <nalioth> computerguy867: do they require you to ssh in  from the campus itself?
[01:17] <bert> dennis, radeon 7000/VE 32MB
[01:17] <bert> old thing
[01:17] <dennis_> That doesn't help :/
[01:17] <dennis_> I'm trying to install my drivers for my 9600xt :x
[01:17] <concept10> ssh -l 192.122.129.x ubuntu
[01:17] <misfit-toy> hmm, I have a weird mouse lag, about every 10 seconds, don't see anything in 'top' that leads me to something, and gkrellm is showing excellent resources available, any ideas?
[01:17] <concept10> or is it the other way around?
[01:17] <justin> concept10: is 192.122.129.x your username?
[01:17] <nalioth> concept10: for what?
[01:17] <drakcap> misfit-toy check dma ide etc..
[01:17] <bert> I am considering to buy a nvidia just to fix my tv-out
[01:17] <computerguy867> naloith: No its an http site, that I normally access from on campus.  i would like to ssh into the linux computers on campus to access this site
[01:18] <PhantomFreak> Now, does anyone know how to get IrDA to work? I.e. What is the port of the Infa-red port?
[01:18] <thechitowncubs> is something wrong with us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:18] <justin> concept10: ssh lets you just use @ to separate the username and host
[01:18] <nalioth> computerguy867: then try to ssh in, and use your user/pass. unless they have specifically locked out all outside IP addys, you should be able to access
[01:18] <concept10> ...
[01:18] <misfit-toy> drakcap, good idea thanks
[01:19] <concept10> Thanks nalioth for the firefox trick
[01:19] <ecarroll> Anyone using 2.6.11 or 2.6.12 (breezy only i believe) and can read to me /cat/proc/version i need to know the gcc version number
[01:19] <nalioth> concept10: yup, about:config messin can make ya or break ya
[01:19] <slava> what gcc version does the latest ubuntu ship?
[01:19] <nalioth> concept10: so now you can raze windoze from your puter forever?
[01:19] <dennis_> Does anyone here have an Ati Gpu that is 8500 or +
[01:19] <justin> slava: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:19] <tritium> thechitowncubs, yes, see the topic
[01:20] <computerguy867> i can successfully ssh in but I want to sure portforwarding so that when i open up my web browser(locally installed) it tricks the site
[01:20] <computerguy867> if that makes sence
[01:20] <bert> @slava 4:3.3.5
[01:20] <slava> justin, thanks
[01:20] <nalioth> anyone: can you tunnel ssh and view webpages and such?
[01:20] <bert> anyone using breezy already?
[01:21] <tritium> bert, please don't
[01:21] <ecarroll> bert: I am
[01:21] <dennis_> Does anyone here have an Ati Gpu that is 8500 or +? I need help installing drivers for OpenGL support... :(
[01:21] <ecarroll> works excelent for me
[01:21] <nalioth> computerguy867: i only vnc via ssh, and i'm sure the uni aint got no vnc servers runnin (might be wrong)
[01:21] <tritium> dennis_, please don't repeat so often...
[01:21] <justin> concept10: the ssh man page covers port fowarding and proxying
[01:21] <chillywilly> nalioth: why would you need to do that? are they restricting connections by IP address?
[01:21] <bert> @tritium: ?!?
[01:21] <tritium> bert, see the topic
[01:21] <dennis_> I didn't think anyone saw it...
[01:21] <mcking> computerguy867: ok, here's an idea.
[01:21] <nalioth> chillywilly: computerguy867 wants to ssh into his uni and view the uni website thru the ssh connection
[01:22] <computerguy867> naloith: Close but its not a uni http site, its public
[01:22] <justin> er
[01:22] <computerguy867> safari.blackboard.com
[01:22] <nalioth> computerguy867: well if its public, why cant you point your browser at it?
[01:22] <justin> computerguy867: the ssh man page covers port fowarding and proxying
[01:22] <chillywilly> computerguy867: why do you need to do it that way? they restrict client IP address?
[01:22] <ecarroll> is there anyway to have gcc answer with a different version number
[01:22] <mcking> computerguy867: set up a screen session with squid running on it at a known port (like 4321 or something)...
[01:23] <computerguy867> im confused now
[01:23] <nalioth> mcking: ya frazzled his circuits with that one
[01:23] <mcking> haha
[01:23] <chillywilly> if it's a public website then just load it up and login
[01:23] <justin> computerguy867: read the ssh man page. it covers port forwarding and proxying
[01:23] <GNULinuxer> Is there any way to add a bootsplash to Ubuntu like the live CD?
[01:23] <zakann> Hello everybody*
[01:24] <computerguy867> i think what im trying to do is forward my port 80 through my universities linux computers
[01:24] <computerguy867> i cant just log onto safari
[01:24] <chillywilly> if you are trying to fake that you are on the uni network because they are restricting the connection by IP address then you would want to forward
[01:24] <computerguy867> i need to be on the netowrk
[01:24] <nalioth> computerguy867: but if its public, why not just browse to it?
[01:24] <zakann> who could explain me how to add unicode ttf-8 support in xchat?
[01:24] <justin> nalioth: you're not helping
[01:24] <computerguy867> to access the services I have to be on campus
[01:24] <nalioth> computerguy867: so its NOT public
[01:24] <computerguy867> the site is
[01:24] <nalioth> justin: i'm trying to get solid info from him
[01:24] <computerguy867> but access to the services is not
[01:25] <nalioth> computerguy867: ok then
[01:25] <computerguy867> it detects if your on the netowrk
[01:25] <justin> nalioth: I already know what he is talking about, you're just confusing him
[01:25] <chillywilly> public sites has no IP access restrictions, hence the name 'public'
[01:25] <chillywilly> have*
[01:25] <computerguy867> right, its public
[01:25] <nalioth> justin: sorry, i have never been to uni
[01:25] <justin> computerguy867: read the ssh man page. read the stuff about SOCKS
[01:25] <samuel> sup all
[01:25] <computerguy867> but when you view it on the netowk, its says welcome University of Maryland Student
[01:25] <nalioth> computerguy867: if you are required to be on campus, then the part you are after is private
[01:26] <computerguy867> i guess
[01:26] <samuel> can someone tell me the name of the CD burning software included w ubuntu?
[01:26] <IorGie> gnomebaker
[01:26] <kvidell> gnome-baker I think
[01:26] <kvidell> okay, sans hyphen :)
[01:26] <nalioth> samuel: you can install many burning pkgs
[01:26] <kvidell> hehe
[01:26] <mcking> yeah. safari.oreilly.com is public, but what he is saying he needs to route through his uni so that he can access the books using his uni site license
[01:26] <computerguy867> i read the man page but its greek to me
[01:26] <tritium> samuel, you'll have to install them, though.  They're not included by default.
[01:26] <nalioth> samuel: graveman, k3b
[01:26] <computerguy867> mcking: Yes!, i thkn
[01:26] <mcking> computerguy867: do you have an admin at the uni who could help you?
[01:26] <justin> computerguy867: read it again. read the stuff about SOCKS.
[01:26] <nalioth> mcking: well i think we all have figgered it out
[01:27] <samuel> nalioth, there is one that comes with ubuntu for gnome? very good one... you can burn things easily to ISO images, etc...
[01:27] <nalioth> the screen + squid sounds pretty good to me
[01:27] <tritium> samuel, gnomebaker or graveman
[01:27] <justin> screen + squid is a dumb idea.
[01:27] <nalioth> samuel: the nautilus file browser has a built-in burning capability (similar to winXP)
[01:27] <samuel> tritium, thanks
[01:27] <computerguy867> justin: Ok
[01:27] <dennis_> I will someone a cookie if they help me install the ATI drivers...
[01:27] <dennis_> This is a cookie up for grabs...
[01:27] <mcking> computerguy867: just make sure that your admins don't frown on something like that
[01:27] <bionic> Where can I get the linux kernel source that comes with Ubuntu 5.04? Its not in /usr/src
[01:28] <tritium> samuel, sure.     But I get an error, and my system is plain fresh ubuntu install
[01:31] <Grumbly> nalioth: I just caught an installer error in the xserver-xorg pkg
[01:31] <tritium> ecarroll, relax
[01:31] <bionic> Its three lines, may I msg you them?
[01:31] <Grumbly> hah!
[01:31] <ecarroll> I like breezy, I dont like their decision to stick with v3.3.5
[01:31] <dennis_> Wtf is Breezy?
[01:31] <nalioth> Grumbly: were you able to overcome it?
[01:32] <tritium> dennis_, the development version of ubuntu, to be released in October
[01:32] <mcking> dennis_: the next version of ubuntu
[01:32] <dennis_> oh
[01:32] <dennis_> lol
[01:32] <Grumbly> dont know, installation continued on, but it refered to  private/pool or somethng
[01:32] <chillywilly> bah, my audio cd won't eject
[01:32] <tritium> bionic, you should follow this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:32] <tritium> No need for kernel headers or source
[01:33] <ecarroll> need to restart with new kernel
[01:33] <Grumbly> what's the latest stable kernel?
[01:33] <IorGie> Grumbly look at kernel.org
[01:33] <tritium> Grumbly, 2.6.10 is the latest that's _supported_ in hoary
[01:33] <Grumbly> not just supported- what
[01:33] <Grumbly> is the latest stable linux kernel?
[01:34] <chillywilly> oh boy I got my Ubuntu CDs
[01:34] <tritium> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:34] <chillywilly> weeeeee
[01:34] <IorGie> chillywilly: how long did you wait for it?
[01:34] <_scott_> how do I install the gcc package?
[01:34] <ewhitten> chillywilly:  nice!  I ordered some, but I just moved.  no idea if they'll get forwarded to my new address. :(
[01:34] <concept10> Anyone think that Ubuntu will be here for a long time?
[01:35] <LinuxJones> concept10, yeah :)
[01:35] <IorGie> what is a long time?
[01:35] <_scott_> how do I install gcc or build essential?
[01:35] <concept10> more than two years
[01:35] <ChinaCatJones> how would one change the default behavior of installing themes from a per user basis to a per machine basis under theme manager?
[01:35] <tweakism_> chillywilly: wow.  are you the chillywilly I know?
[01:35] <gmoody> hello
[01:35] <LinuxJones> _scott_, apt-get install build-essential
[01:35] <gmoody> exit
[01:36] <tritium> concept10, I would bet on it
[01:36] <tritium> bionic, did you see my last messages before quitting?
[01:36] <IorGie> easaly :)
[01:36] <chillywilly> tweakism_: yes, havoc's buddy
[01:37] <tweakism_> Ubuntu is excellent.  If it had risen up through a community coming together, I'd say it'd be carried on technical merits alone.  The financier bought his way into space, though, so he could give up and move on at some point.  However, since he's stinking rich, Ubuntu can't cost that much, and he's definitely planned for sufficiency.
[01:37] <tweakism_> chillywilly: cool.
[01:37] <concept10> Im going to install it on my sisters machine tonight
[01:37] <chillywilly> IorGie: quite some time...I had forgotten about it
[01:37] <tritium> tweakism_, it did rise up from the debian community, and has formed a rather strong community itself
[01:37] <ewhitten> oh man.  I just spent 20 mins. trying to figure out why my pointer was going crazy... answer:  sitting on the (tiny) wireless notebook mouse.
[01:37] <concept10> maybe it will help her gain some computer literacy
[01:37] <IorGie> It would be nice to have some "official" ubuntu cd's but if it takes ages...
[01:37] <ewhitten> *sigh*
[01:38] <melostalgic> i'm having an issue with xmms working properly. can anyone help? also, im a new linux user.
[01:38] <IorGie> I'll problably will run breezy way before they arive ;)
[01:38] <concept10> If I was Mark, I would make a million CD's and start a AOL compaign, send them in the mail, computer and electronic stores
[01:39] <chillywilly> ok, this is really annoying
[01:39] <tritium> concept10, they do mail free CDs if you request them
[01:39] <parabolize> melostalgic: whats the problem
[01:39] <melostalgic> i can't get it to play mp3s or wavs
[01:39] <concept10> tritium, i know that but I would get them out to the entire public
[01:40] <xirtam> how do i set transparency using xorg?
[01:40] <nalioth> tritium: concept10 is talking bout AOL-level (in every roll of toilet paper, etc)
[01:40] <tritium> nalioth, right, I understand.
[01:40] <parabolize> melostalgic: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:40] <nalioth> melostalgic: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:40] <IorGie> melostalgic: see ubuntuguide.org to install multimedia support
[01:40] <concept10> someone has to market linux to the masses
[01:40] <melostalgic> i've already installed all of them parabolize
[01:40] <parabolize> lol
[01:40] <chillywilly> the nautilus eject wouldn't worked so I kill -9'd it and then I was able to eject my audio CD
[01:40] <ccc> i may be wrong, but isn't xmms development dead since long? the last i saw of it, it was still using gtk1. :D
[01:40] <_Magog_> ive got my repo's workin to get e17, all my dependancies are resolved except libe, i cant install it without libe and cant install libe without it
[01:41] <chillywilly> Jun 13 18:38:38 localhost kernel: program eject is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO
[01:41] <concept10> could you imagine how many people would be in this channel if they started a AOL campaign nalioth?
[01:41] <IorGie> concept10: thats were we here aren't we?
[01:41] <nalioth> chillywilly: thats what 'kill' is for
[01:41] <parabolize> melostalgic do they run in any other media player
[01:41] <tritium> welcome drobbins :)
[01:41] <drobbins> hiya
[01:41] <nalioth> concept10: it would be kwazy
[01:41] <chillywilly> nalioth: um, no it should eject properly...and I did use kill, did you even read what I typed? :)
[01:42] <_Magog_> anyone know how i can install libe?
[01:42] <thechitowncubs> Can anyone help me setup a certificate in Evolution?
[01:42] <concept10> drobbins, you work at MS?
[01:42] <nalioth> chillywilly: it 'should' eject properly, but obviously nautilus wasnt finished with it
[01:42] <drobbins> yep, as of May 23rd
[01:42] <jtorgers> a review of ubuntu at http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10836
[01:42] <melostalgic> parabolize, no. i've tried helix player, realplayer, and amaroK
[01:42] <skora> haha
[01:43] <macarthy> hi all
[01:43] <thechitowncubs> I have got it imported but it asked me for a PKCS12 passowrd, but i have no idea what that means
[01:43] <nalioth> macarthy: did you get sorted out?
[01:43] <melostalgic> whenever i drag and drop a file into xmms and click play it freezes xmms
[01:43] <LinuxJones> Daniel Robbins ?
[01:43] <macarthy> nalioth: no This is from syslog - vino-server[14877] : segfault at<PHONE_NUMBER>52f678 rip<PHONE_NUMBER>40af65 rsp 0000007fbffff6d0 error 6 -
[01:43] <odie5533> How do I use a webcam on linux?
[01:43] <skora> im a linux using teenager who has bill gates shaking in his boots
[01:43] <skora> :D
[01:43] <nalioth> macarthy: i recommend another sshd
[01:43] <skora> *sarcasm*
[01:43] <nalioth> macarthy: oops, another vncd
[01:43] <chillywilly> nalioth: it wasn't doing anything with it
[01:43] <odie5533> Anyone here ever use a webcam with linux?
[01:44] <parabolize> melostalgic: you know if your sound works at all?
[01:44] <nalioth> chillywilly: i've never been fond of gnome
[01:44] <melostalgic> parabolize, yes, it does.
[01:44] <calc> odie5533: get something that works with v4l
[01:44] <IorGie> odie5533: I tried but gave up
[01:44] <nalioth> chillywilly: cuz of unexplained stuff like that
[01:44] <thechitowncubs> Anyone :/
[01:44] <tritium> odie5533, you have to do some research and find one that is supported with a driver
[01:44] <kevogod> Is Ubuntu going to use ClearLooks as a default theme ever or continue using Human?
[01:44] <macarthy> nalioth: yes, that will be my workaround - however I'd like to use this as an opertunity to report my first bug report
[01:44] <calc> odie5533: gnomemeeting probably does
[01:44] <parabolize> melostalgic no idea then. soory
[01:44] <concept10> nalioth, you sounded like jar jar with kwazy.  Anyway is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[01:44] <nalioth> macarthy: bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[01:44] <tritium> concept10, yes, see the topic
[01:44] <nalioth> concept10: read the /topic
[01:44] <odie5533> how do I know if my webcam works?
[01:45] <_Magog_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:45] <_Magog_>   libe: Depends: enlightenment (= 0.16.999.010-0cvs20050611) but 1:0.16.6-3ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:45] <_Magog_> E: Broken packages
[01:45] <odie5533> I mainly want it to just take pictures
[01:45] <_Magog_> anyone know?
[01:45] <macarthy> is there a howto to writing a meaning full bug report?
[01:45] <macarthy> meaningful
[01:45] <nalioth> _Magog_: how are you building/installing all these things?
[01:45] <_Magog_> nalioth, apt-get
[01:45] <bionic> tritium, yes I did, but I get a bunch of errors when trying to follow it
[01:45] <tritium> drobbins, how's gentoo dev?
[01:46] <drobbins> tritium: gentoo development?
[01:46] <nalioth> _Magog_: you might end up having to build by hand the last two items
[01:46] <tritium> drobbins, yes
[01:46] <chillywilly> as the damn thing just hangs there...
[01:46] <nalioth> _Magog_: use checkinstall (it makes debs, for convienient pkg managment <and thats about all>)
[01:46] <tritium> bionic, that's not usual...
[01:46] <_Magog_> kk
[01:46] <_Magog_> ty
[01:46] <chillywilly> there we go
[01:46] <drobbins> tritium: good question. Good, I suppose.
[01:47] <chillywilly> or not..
[01:47] <bionic> tritium, Shouldnt be, my install of Ubuntu is plain fresh :(
[01:47] <melostalgic> no one has any ideas on how to help me?
[01:47] <bionic> tritium, May I msg you the output?
[01:47] <_Magog_> na
[01:47] <tritium> bionic, okay
[01:47] <_Magog_> not quite
[01:47] <drobbins> tritium: this is my first day hanging on freenode after starting work at Microsoft
[01:47] <kevogod> Is Ubuntu compatible with Reiser4?
[01:47] <chillywilly> gah, burning disk failed
[01:47] <skora> hey cubies
[01:47] <nalioth> _Magog_: use 'checkinstall' (may have to install it) instead of "make install"
[01:48] <_Magog_> cool
[01:48] <tritium> drobbins, it's nice having you here.  I guess this means you've left Albuquerque?
[01:48] <drobbins> tritium: yes
[01:48] <skora> im not sure, but I think evolution doesn't work with that type of certificate :/
[01:48] <nalioth> _Magog_: it makes a deb, so you can remove the thing you compiled easily (and you have a deb for later)
[01:48] <drobbins> tritium: I'm in Redmond, WA now
[01:48] <tritium> drobbins, ah, that's my home town.  I'll be moving back in August.  Too bad you're gone.
[01:48] <drobbins> where will you be moving from?
[01:48] <thechitowncubs> I have got it imported but it asked me for a PKCS12 passowrd, but i have no idea what that means
[01:48] <thechitowncubs> Can anyone help me setup a certificate in Evolution?
[01:49] <tritium> drobbins, West Lafayette, IN
[01:49] <drobbins> ah
[01:49] <dmb> hi
[01:49] <skora> thechitowncubs, http://howto.mainstreamlinux.com/SSL-Certificates-HOWTO/x282.html
[01:49] <skora> that might be it.
[01:49] <tritium> drobbins, Some years back, I lived in Mukilteo, WA.  Not too far from Redmond.
[01:49] <dmb> im really stupid when it comes to apt-get, im so used to portage/gentoo
[01:49] <dmb> so...
[01:49] <nalioth> dmb: so use synaptic
[01:49] <dmb> how do I install an identd server?
[01:49] <drobbins> tritium: moving to WA made me realize how harsh NM can be, environmentally speaking
[01:49] <chillywilly> try again...
[01:50] <dmb> nalioth: yes, but i don't see any identd server on synaptic
[01:50] <IorGie> dmb it is already installes at default
[01:50] <drobbins> tritium: the family is enjoying it here
[01:50] <IorGie> see /etc/inetd.conf
[01:50] <nalioth> dmb: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[01:50] <tritium> drobbins, yes, but I grew up there, so I'm used to it.  I like the dry heat, and  you can't beat the chile ;)
[01:50] <dmb> nalioth: nope
[01:50] <drobbins> chile is good
[01:50] <dmb> also, would that let be get anjuta also?
[01:50] <[DarkSun] > can someone tell me if the live CD supports NTFS  RW?
[01:50] <dmb> (i almost said emerge)
[01:50] <nalioth> dmb: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:51] <drobbins> tritium: want to buy my house? :)
[01:51] <nalioth> [DarkSun] : nope
[01:51] <IorGie> [DarkSun]  it doesn't support write on NTFS
[01:51] <nalioth> dmb: packages.ubuntu.com has a list
[01:51] <thechitowncubs> If anyone has any info about PGP signing and certificates and how to use them in emails and just a simple description how it works, could you please PM me :(, thanks :)
[01:51] <tritium> drobbins, sorry, I own one already.  I'm just renting it out while I'm here.  Thanks, though :)
[01:51] <drobbins> np ;)
[01:51] <[DarkSun] > does anyone know a live cd that does?  im in a little bit of a bind and need NTFS RW
[01:51] <nalioth> [DarkSun] : writing to NTFS is unstable from linux
[01:52] <drakcap> darksun, use the windows cd's recovery console
[01:52] <[DarkSun] > drakcap, would if i had one
[01:52] <IorGie> [DarkSun]  Its still experimental an might cause data lost. Dont try it
[01:52] <drakcap> :(
[01:52] <drakcap> darksun, use ro access to copy all the data then write it back as fat32?
[01:52] <concept10> [DarkSun] , you should use FAT32 (vfat) if you want RW support
[01:52] <chillywilly> bake...cd...bake
[01:52] <Grumbly> postdrop: unable to look up public/pickup
[01:52] <Grumbly> wth
[01:52] <drobbins> tritium: so how is ubuntu going?
[01:53] <drobbins> tritium: you guys seem to be very well received...
[01:53] <doneill> anybody up for some enemy territory?
[01:53] <mebaran151> doneill que?
[01:53] <[DarkSun] > *sigh*   not my pc, trying to save a server from needing to be reformated, kinda a time crises atm
[01:53] <tritium> drobbins, pretty well, it seems.  Have you tried it at all?
[01:53] <[DarkSun] > thanx anyway
[01:53] <doneill> eum, it's a game
[01:53] <doneill> quasi-RTCW sequel
[01:53] <doneill> first person shooter
[01:53] <doneill> by ID Software
[01:53] <doneill> (it's free though)
[01:54] <drobbins> tritium: I haven't... we have a bunch of ubuntu cd's here though, but not the current release afaik
[01:54] <dmb> i know this might seem kind of stupid, but, does ubuntu set a password for root or somethign?
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> dmb: nope
[01:54] <dmb> because i don't remember setting one in the isntall process
[01:54] <tritium> drobbins, there at MS?  wow...
[01:54] <dmb> ahh
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> dmb: ubuntu uses 'sudo'
[01:54] <nalioth> dmb: ubuntu doesnt use root
[01:54] <dmb> im so used to using su
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> dmb: just use sudo where you would use su :)
[01:54] <doneill> me too
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> sudo -s for a shell
[01:54] <tritium> dmb, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:54] <nalioth> dmb: sudo keeps n00bs from shooting off their foot
[01:54] <drobbins> tritium: yes, I believe that your boss sent them to my boss :)
[01:55] <drobbins> or, maybe someone just ordered a bunch and sent them over
[01:55] <tweakism_> drobbins: are you daniel robbins, the gentoo guy?
[01:55] <drobbins> yes
[01:55] <doneill> i think an obfuscated root access method is a good idea for that reason
[01:55] <tweakism_> wow, it's nice to meet you.
[01:55] <drobbins> nice to meet you too :)
[01:55] <abarbaccia> bob2, you active?
[01:55] <tritium> drobbins, :)  heh, I'm not a canonical employee...
[01:55] <doneill> tweakism_: recognize my name too by any chance? :)
[01:56] <doneill> ....didn't think so.
[01:56] <doneill> nice to meet you, anyway.
[01:56] <tweakism_> UW psych?
[01:56] <tweakism_> so says google.
[01:56] <doneill> heheh
[01:56] <tweakism_> :P
[01:56] <doneill> curses to google.
[01:56] <doneill> no, i'm not that one
[01:56] <drobbins> :)
[01:56] <drobbins> thanks
[01:56] <ukato> what's the ftp server progam
[01:57] <doneill> funny, there's one on the ipv6 mailing lists with the same name, exactly.
[01:57] <doneill> Daniel Francis O'Neill
[01:57] <dmb> hmm, are you sure an identd server is installed by default?
[01:57] <doneill> what are the chances of that?  a linux user too.
[01:57] <dmb> because i don't see anything in /etc/ident.conf
[01:57] <concept10> Is there any need to run clam av on regular desktop?
[01:58] <IorGie> concept10: not realy but it's alway nice to send out clean emails
[01:58] <dmb> why use safari when theres mozilla/firefox?
[01:59] <LinuxJones> drobbins, mind if I ask what your new job is ?
[01:59] <othernoob> dmb. choice perhaps ?
[01:59] <concept10> Im curious to know how clam intergrates with Evolution?
[01:59] <drobbins> hey, the news just hit slashdot
[01:59] <nalioth> concept10: clamav for me (a regular use) would be to scan stuff you'd send to your windoze brethren
[01:59] <dmb> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:59] <tweakism_> drobbins: are you going to work at Microsoft?
[01:59] <LinuxJones> lol
[01:59] <drobbins> LinuxJones: my job is to help Microsoft understand open source and community projects
[01:59] <Consty> isn't konqueror better because it passed those ACID2 tests for web standards that only safari has passed until recently.
[01:59] <nalioth> concept10: clamav has been used in spam detecting mail server scripts, also
[01:59] <tritium> dmb, please see the topic
[01:59] <JohnMurdoch> suddenly, I feel sick
[01:59] <LinuxJones> drobbins, cool
[02:00] <dmb> tritium: thats not a md5sum error though
[02:00] <dmb> drobbins: seriosly?
[02:00] <drobbins> dmb: yep
[02:00] <IorGie> drobbins: quite a job ;)
[02:00] <concept10> drobbins, please dont help them put Windows on top of our beloved kernel. :)
[02:00] <mcking> so what does that mean?
[02:00] <xterminus> i applied for one of those jobs at microsoft last week actually
[02:00] <JohnMurdoch> I can't believe it, homemade air conditioning on the cheap.
[02:00] <dmb> drobbins: are you really drobbins ?
[02:01] <drobbins> yes
[02:01] <xterminus> they're looking for ppl who can dig into linux, compare it with windows, and make windows more competitive against linux
[02:01] <ukato> what is a good ftp server
[02:01] <ukato> ftpd?
[02:01] <Consty> mcking: Something about how Safari/Konqueror are completely compliant with web standards where as others have deviations.
[02:01] <concept10> drobbins, thanks for the good docs in ibm developer works
[02:01] <drobbins> thanks for reading them :)
[02:01] <mcking> Consty: no i meant the drobbins bomshe;;
[02:01] <mcking> s/;;/ll/
[02:01] <Consty> mcking: Ah, sorry :)
[02:01] <mcking> stupid new keyboard
[02:01] <IorGie> ukato: fure-ftpd runs fine over here
[02:02] <ukato> iorgie, k thanks
[02:02] <dmb> this could be hard not saying anyhting about micrsoft
[02:02] <concept10> drobbins, gosh that was /dotted quick, who did you tell?
[02:03] <JohnMurdoch> did anyone read that homemade air conditioner story on /.? Wouldn't that cause too much humidity to creep into room?
[02:03] <drobbins> well, an announcement got on gentoo.org this morning
[02:03] <drobbins> JohnMurdoch: I looked at it quickly but I think it's a closed system, sorta
[02:04] <drobbins> JohnMurdoch: I don't think it was a swamp cooler, which are used in Albuquerque (and work well, generally...)
[02:04] <tritium> JohnMurdoch, we use evaporative coolers in the desert southwest.  Not really a new idea...
[02:06] <concept10> I hope they are paying over $100k for your position
[02:07] <drobbins> me too
[02:07] <dmb> lol
[02:07] <stuNNed> drobbins: hiyas how's it going?
[02:07] <drobbins> seriously though, I didn't take this position for the money
[02:07] <tritium> drobbins, let me know when you need a few pounds of Hatch green chile sent up to Redmond
[02:07] <drobbins> tritium: ok
[02:07] <drobbins> tritium: we will probably arrange to have the movers ship up a few boxes with all our belongings
[02:07] <dmb> gentoo + ubuntu = best distros
[02:07] <synd> blah gentoo
[02:07] <tritium> :)
[02:08] <dmb> gentoo is better for me
[02:08] <tritium> synd, please don't
[02:08] <dmb> as i like to compile my whole os
[02:08] <dmb> synd: don't when drobbins is in here
[02:08] <synd> tritium: dont what?
[02:08] <wm_eddie_> They are opposite sides of a spectrum of what different people need.
[02:08] <dmb> yeh
[02:08] <tritium> synd, no need to bash the merits of other distros, at any time
[02:09] <IorGie> with ^^
[02:09] <synd> ain't bashing anything.
[02:09] <dmb> like, i'm going to use ubuntu to distribute to my freinds who are newbies to linux
[02:09] <concept10> I have to admit there are some good quips on slashdot about the story.  That crowd cracks me up with the siliness
[02:09] <dmb> gentoo is the distro for me
[02:09] <_heart> where can i find the $QTDIR from kubuntu?
[02:09] <_heart> find /usr /opt -name qtconfig -type f -perm +111 <-- gives me nothing
[02:10] <dmb> i have to say, there is way to much crap in comments in every slashdot story
[02:10] <wm_eddie_> dmb, Nobody reads them anymore.
[02:10] <bosshoff> hi all
[02:10] <nullvoid> hi all
[02:10] <LinuxJones> dmb, that's what slashdot is for :)
[02:10] <tritium> hi guys
[02:10] <dmb> i of coarse have to read the mozilla comments stuffs
[02:10] <nullvoid> I am looking for openclipart
[02:10] <dmb> becuase i'm a bit involved in the moz project
[02:10] <dmb> i just like to see how stupid people can be
[02:10] <nullvoid> when I apt search it, it's not there
[02:10] <Razor-X> dmb: 's why I never read the comments
[02:11] <nullvoid> but available at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/openclipart
[02:11] <concept10> dmb, yeah.. thats the truth
[02:11] <odie5533> how do i enable/use a webcam?
[02:11] <wm_eddie_> Quick what's everyone's favorite program?
[02:11] <tritium> odie5533, is there a driver for your cam?  Is it loaded?
[02:11] <Treyb> hey does ubuntu not come with cc or gcc?
[02:12] <odie5533> How do I tell?
[02:12] <wm_eddie_> Treyb, build-essential
[02:12] <tritium> Treyb, "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[02:12] <dmb> so drobbins, are you still going be be the top person @ gentoo?
[02:12] <Razor-X> Treyb: it's on teh cd, just not installed
[02:12] <Treyb> ahh
[02:12] <drobbins> dmb: nope, I'm totally separated from gentoo at this point
[02:12] <Treyb> ok was like WOW what kinda os doesnt have gcc lol
[02:12] <tritium> Treyb, we'd be in trouble if it didn't have a compiler ;)
[02:12] <Razor-X> *the
[02:12] <dmb> becaise i was/am starting development there
[02:12] <Treyb> yes sir lol
[02:13] <odie5533> tritium: how do I know if there is a driver or if its loaded?
[02:13] <Razor-X> tritium: hmmm, you shouldn't promote aptitude, you can "fork" n00bs ;)
[02:13] <bosshoff> I was just wondering if anyone can get windows to drag from one desktop to the other in dual-monitor setups w/o xinerama
[02:13] <concept10> I loaded my wireless drivers with ndiswrapper yesterday but I cant not get it to find my wireless lan, any suggestions?
[02:13] <tritium> Razor-X, it has some advantages over apt-get
[02:13] <mdke> concept10, did you check the channel?
[02:13] <bosshoff> probably something wrong with your /etc/conf.d/net
[02:13] <mdke> is this #ubuntu?
[02:13] <fishie> whoa i really am getting to love linux more and more everyday
[02:13] <fishie> :)
[02:13] <dmb> hehe
[02:14] <tritium> odie5533, which cam is it?
[02:14] <Razor-X> tritium: understood, but, most of the people here offer advice with apt-get, and so, some people may get confused
[02:14] <mdke> concept10, you set your net stuff in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:14] <concept10> mdke, yes. I set the correct channel ESID..
[02:14] <LinuxJones> fishie, before you know it you'll be on #ubuntu 24/7 :)
[02:15] <mdke> concept10, channel =/ essid
[02:15] <tritium> Razor-X, I typically do offer up both alternatives...
[02:15] <Razor-X> hehe, fine fine
[02:15] <odie5533> tritium: ov511+
[02:15] <mdke> concept10, have a look at iwconfig, and see which channel it is on, to make sure it conforms to your AP
[02:15] <tritium> odie5533, yes, there is a driver for that
[02:15] <Treyb> wow I'm almost surprised I like this OS coming from FreeBSD lol
[02:16] <Razor-X> Treyb: you may, but i'm never going to the FreeBSD world ;)
[02:16] <odie5533> tritium: How do I use it? and how do I capture from the device?
[02:16] <Treyb> guess I just wanted something a bit easier so i dont have to work as hard for resaults lol
[02:16] <tritium> odie5533, "lsmod | grep ov511".  If it's listed, the module is loaded
[02:16] <IorGie> Razor-X: never say never, a year ago i wouldnt ever concider linux
[02:16] <concept10> wlan0     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"MSHOME"
[02:16] <concept10>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz    I dont see channel?!
[02:17] <odie5533> tritium: It's listed, but how do I use the device?
[02:17] <mdke> concept10, is that all you have?
[02:17] <tritium> odie5533, you can try gnomemeeting for videoconferencing
[02:17] <Razor-X> IorGie: i'll say never because I tried FreeBSD
[02:17] <nullvoid> concept10: kismet will show chan
[02:17] <concept10> mdke, no didnt want to flood
[02:17] <odie5533> tritium: I just want to capture from it
[02:17] <bosshoff> I was just wondering if anyone can get windows to drag from one desktop to the other in dual-monitor setups w/o xinerama? I heard there was some migration software
[02:17] <mdke> concept10, fair enough, but its strange you don't have channel
[02:17] <mdke> concept10, anyhow frequency will do
[02:18] <misfit-toy> concept10, now you realize you should be upgrading FC right now doncha? ;p
[02:18] <Treyb> anyone here know about mesa?
[02:18] <Razor-X> the naming conventions themselfves seem so counter-intuitive from the onset, and there's so much more....
[02:18] <Razor-X> *themselves
[02:18] <tritium> odie5533, try "apt-cache search webcam".  That should return a number of packages you can look into using.
[02:18] <Razor-X> hmmm... time to test my LaTeX skillage out on some of my WYSIWYG documents
[02:18] <KrimZon> "E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." <- what do i do when apt-get says this?
[02:18] <concept10> misfit-toy, lol :) dont tell no one!
[02:18] <IorGie> Razor-X: i dont but i gave linux a very small change after RH and debian. Till i finaly found ubuntu
[02:18] <misfit-toy> concept10, heheh
[02:19] <Razor-X> IorGie: well, yeah, maybe I should sample _all_ the BSD distros out there, aka OpenBSD and FreeBSD and ... nothing! ;)
[02:19] <concept10> misfit-toy, I am commiting distro adultery right now
[02:19] <KrimZon> i dont need the jre right now, i just want apt-get to actually work
[02:19] <misfit-toy> concept10, just as Apple is cheating on IBM
[02:19] <Razor-X> concept10: i'm committing distro incest
[02:20] <misfit-toy> Razor-X, wow, describe in great detail
[02:20] <eraser`> where can I report bugs in apt universe?
[02:20] <concept10> misfit-toy, my new setup is ubuntu laptop, FC on the desktop
[02:20] <Razor-X> misfit-toy: combining two deviants distros of Linux ;)
[02:20] <Treyb> Razor-X: distro molestation is alot more fun
[02:20] <Razor-X> Treyb: mmmhmmm
[02:20] <Treyb> grr i cant get freakin mesa to make!!!
[02:20] <misfit-toy> concept10, yeah, sounds good, I have an ubuntu laptop and an FC one, the FC one is now upgrading, albeit slowly for some reason.
[02:20] <mdke> Treyb, what error?
[02:20] <misfit-toy> Razor-X, you go boy~!
[02:20] <Razor-X> eraser`: you mean, the package manager itself, or problems with the Universe repo?
[02:21] <mdke> Treyb, also, why are you compiling it?
[02:21] <eraser`> universe repo
[02:21] <GhettoFish> hmm how do i play *.mov files with mplayer? anyone know?
[02:21] <concept10> misfit-toy, I decided to try ubuntu after the delay last week and its great on my laptop
[02:21] <SeamusLP> KrimZon:  Perhaps some app you are installing requires the jre, but you don't have it?
[02:21] <Treyb> theres a binary build of it mdke?
[02:21] <Razor-X> eraser`: read the topic and see if that's the problem
[02:21] <misfit-toy> concept10, I have to admit on this laptop Ubuntu *blazes*
[02:21] <mdke> Treyb, i'm not an expert, but afaik mesa comes with xorg
[02:21] <eraser`> it's a bad md5 sum for hoary
[02:21] <bosshoff> um, should I just be in a different chan?
[02:21] <Treyb> not from what i've been reading
[02:22] <concept10> misfit-toy, faster boot too for me
[02:22] <misfit-toy> concept10, although my wife gets nervous when I talk about my 'ubuntu laptop'
[02:22] <Razor-X> eraser`: read the topic
[02:22] <synd> are there better fonts avail in the apt?
[02:22] <misfit-toy> concept10, loads in half the time
[02:22] <concept10> misfit-toy, :)
[02:22] <eraser`> ah
[02:22] <IorGie> synd just read ubuntuguid.org
[02:22] <KrimZon> i tried installing the jre, but it didnt work
[02:22] <zedman> Can anyone help me figure out why my friend can't play mp3s in any media players?
[02:22] <eraser`> I thought you were telling me about breezy :x
[02:22] <mdke> bosshoff, that depends
[02:22] <eraser`> thanks
[02:22] <LinuxJones> synd, there are some nice ttf fonts for download yeah
[02:22] <misfit-toy> ok, off to cook some dinner, or at least make sure it's not burning, biab.
[02:22] <concept10> misfit-toy, thats true. plus ubuntu has a good communtity around it
[02:22] <mdke> zedman, has he read the RestrictedFormats document on the wiki?
[02:23] <zedman> no, link please
[02:23] <misfit-toy> aha, synd, the man who exorcised my wireless NIC! ;p
[02:23] <KrimZon> the file must've been corrupt because it broke the redhat to debian converter
[02:23] <misfit-toy> biab
[02:23] <synd> LinuxJones: recommend any?
[02:23] <mdke> zedman, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:23] <bosshoff> mdke, I'm interested in people's dual monitor setups
[02:23] <tritium> KrimZon, due to Sun's licensing restrictions, there is no jre package.  There are many ways to get one.  The one I recommend is to use the "make-jpkg" command from java-package to build your own from a downloaded jre installer
[02:23] <synd> misfit-toy: i got it working with a dell lappy, but am having a hell of a time on this toshiba...
[02:23] <mdke> bosshoff, any luck here?
[02:24] <mdke> synd, report all problems!
[02:24] <zedman> yeah, thanks.
[02:24] <Treyb> mdke: i dunno if its built in xorg cant figure out how to make use of it
[02:24] <synd> mdke: its not so much a problem.
[02:24] <IorGie> anyone running samba in a worgroup (not a domain) with XP's?
[02:24] <mdke> synd, if it isn't working when you install, its a problem
[02:24] <bosshoff> mdke: I guess not, but I'm not even getting a response, so I figured I was in the wrong chan
[02:24] <Razor-X> tritium: I thought they added a jre package to the repos?
[02:25] <mdke> bosshoff, maybe you can try a number of different channels
[02:25] <synd> mdke: if i deemed it a problem, i would have been asking here : )
[02:25] <concept10> what is kismet?
[02:25] <Treyb> since my 3d accelerator isnt working properly and can't figure out what else is wrong
[02:25] <mdke> synd, oh sorry I thought you were
[02:25] <mdke> Treyb, what card?
[02:25] <bosshoff> well, I'm in the gnome chan as well, and like nobody is talking at all
[02:25] <Treyb> ati radeon 9700
[02:25] <KrimZon> i was following the instructions on ubuntuguide.org when i last tried
[02:25] <LinuxJones> synd, there were some nice larabie fonts are very nice in multiverse
[02:25] <mdke> Treyb, ok you need the special drivers for that sort of card
[02:25] <Burgundavia> Treyb, do you have an nforce2 mobo?
[02:25] <Treyb> im only getting like 135 fps for glxgears also which is a bit low
[02:25] <Razor-X> bosshoff: you mean, the GNOME window manager, or, Ubuntu?
[02:26] <synd> mdke: nah, just telling misfit-toy about it. it was his card before mine. he could not get it working either..
[02:26] <tritium> Razor-X, no, they can't do that, due to Sun's licensing restrictions
[02:26] <Razor-X> Treyb: speak for yourself!
[02:26] <mdke> Treyb, you shouldn't need to recompile the Mesa module in xorg
[02:26] <Razor-X> tritium: so, is it a java reverse-engineer?
[02:26] <mdke> Treyb, did you try installing anything yet?
[02:26] <synd> LinuxJones: alright, sounds good. ill take a gander
[02:26] <KrimZon> does rar require java though?
[02:26] <tritium> Razor-X, what?
[02:26] <Treyb> well in winex i cant get past the 3d accelerator test
[02:26] <Treyb> and when i run half life it just blank screens
[02:26] <Razor-X> KrimZon: nope
[02:26] <mdke> Treyb, you haven't installed any drivers for your card yet?
[02:26] <Razor-X> tritium: like BlackDown(IIRC)'s Java
[02:26] <KrimZon> cause it gives the same message when i try to install that
[02:27] <othernoob> is there another prog for .ace files besides unace ?
[02:27] <synd> can one put icons on xfce's desktop?
[02:27] <Treyb> mdke oh ya i did
[02:27] <tritium> Razor-X, those are not in ubuntu repositories
[02:27] <Burgundavia> Treyb, what does this: glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[02:27] <bosshoff> mdke, well, i'm running ubuntu, and I haven't changed anything besides xorg.conf, but yes, it is gnome
[02:27] <Burgundavia> Treyb, spit out?
[02:27] <KrimZon> so im guessing apt-get needs some kind of command to fix whatever of jre is left over from the failed install
[02:27] <Treyb> the opengl info
[02:27] <Burgundavia> Treyb, do you see Mesa or ATI?
[02:28] <Razor-X> tritium: nevermind
[02:28] <Treyb> mesa
[02:28] <Burgundavia> Treyb, then you don't have your drivers activated
[02:28] <mdke> guide is here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:28] <Burgundavia> Treyb, see the stuff under notes on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:28] <mdke> *grins*
[02:28] <Treyb> lkk thnx guys :)
[02:29] <bosshoff> so, is there a specific gnome server that gets more traffic?
[02:29] <mdke> bosshoff, irc.gimp.net but you could maybe see if there is an xorg network somewhere
[02:29] <patt0n> hola
[02:29] <bosshoff> oh, good call
[02:30] <patt0n> spanisch?????
[02:30] <kvidell> patt0n: #ubuntu-es
[02:30] <patt0n> I not speke inghlish
[02:30] <mdke> patt0n, try /join
[02:30] <mdke> #ubuntu-es
[02:30] <mdke> damn sorry
[02:31] <mdke> /join #ubuntu-es
[02:31] <bienve> patt0n, jajaja
[02:31] <dmb> hey drobbins , what does [02:31] <patt0n> no entiendo  sorry
[02:31] <caonex> patt0n, no hablas ingles?
[02:31] <drobbins> dmb: you're not voiced in the channel
[02:31] <patt0n> no  y tu hablas espaol??
[02:31] <Razor-X> dmb: they unvoiced you?
[02:32] <dmb> no recuedo espanol
[02:32] <drobbins> by default, only devs are voiced in #gentoo-dev
[02:32] <caonex> patt0n, s
[02:32] <dmb> ahh
[02:32] <jbroome> how is he going to reply with no voice? :)
[02:32] <patt0n> caonex
[02:32] <Razor-X> patt0n: aqui, no hablamos espanol, /join #ubuntu-es
[02:32] <caonex> patt0n, es mi primera lengua
[02:32] <drobbins> well, devs are opped, people who interact with devs are voiced....
[02:32] <marcin_ant> hi all
[02:32] <caonex> patt0n, ?
[02:32] <Razor-X> ok, if that came out wrong
[02:32] <Razor-X> don't blame me
[02:32] <jbroome> ooh, ok
[02:32] <mdke> caonex, help him to join the spanish channel pls
[02:32] <patt0n> sorry nesecito que me ayuden
[02:32] <Razor-X> I almost said 'ici, nous ne parlons pas espagnol'
[02:32] <marcin_ant> I need to customize font for emacs compiled from cvs with support for gtk
[02:32] <caonex> mdke, i was about to
[02:32] <dmb> patt0n:  /join #ubunto-es
[02:32] <kvidell> Razor-X lol
[02:32] <patt0n> y me den un cana espaol
[02:33] <kvidell> I do that :-\
[02:33] <dmb> patt0n: type in "/join #ubunto-es"
[02:33] <caonex> patton, entra al canal #ubuntu-es
[02:33] <kvidell> usted hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es
[02:33] <dmb> or click it if using chatzilla
[02:33] <kvidell> va ayer
[02:33] <Ben_Babcock> My Toshiba Celeron laptop overheats when running Ubuntu :/  Does anyone know how I could fix this?  When booting up, it says it cannot enage cpu-frequency scaling.
[02:33] <bienve> patt0n, deja de molestar aqui te patearan jjajaja
[02:33] <kvidell> god I haven't used spanish in like 5 years :-\
[02:33] <bienve> :P
[02:33] <dmb> kvidell: me either
[02:33] <marcin_ant> what and where can I customize - I know that .Xresources but I don't know if I need to modify file in ~/ dir or something in /etc/X11 ?
[02:33] <caonex> patt0n, escribe lo siguiente sin las comillas "/join #ubuntu-es
[02:34] <dmb> i actually don't like spanish much
[02:34] <mdke> Ben_Babcock, what sort of celeron is it
[02:34] <dmb> brings back old memories
[02:34] <dmb> theres always google translate
[02:34] <caonex> patt0n, escrbelo aqu.
[02:34] <kvidell> dmb: I messed up and tried to learn Spanish and Italian at the same time
[02:34] <Razor-X> patt0n: tipo /join #ubuntu-es
[02:34] <kvidell> I can now speak neither
[02:34] <dmb> kvidell: LOL
[02:34] <Razor-X> (yes, that's a translatoor speaking)
[02:34] <Ben_Babcock> mdke: Toshiba Satellite A70 Intel Celeron 2.1 GHz, I believe.
[02:34] <bienve> caonex, el conoce el canal jeje
[02:34] <caonex> Razor-X, you say "escribe" no tipo, it means type.
[02:34] <bienve> lo eh visto por hay creo que ayer.
[02:34] <Razor-X> hey, I dunno!
[02:34] <patt0n> ok..  caonex..
[02:35] <Razor-X> ;)
[02:35] <mdke> Ben_Babcock, it is quite likely that your chip does not support cpu-frequency scaling, my celeron does not
[02:35] <patt0n> solo tengo una duda..  como se escrive el gato
[02:35] <Ben_Babcock> -_-' mdke: Is there anything similar that I can do so that the CPU won't overheat?
[02:35] <mdke> Ben_Babcock, in any case, the fan should be working properly so that it doesn't overheat. there is clearly a problem!
[02:35] <Razor-X> el gato?
[02:36] <Razor-X> doesen't that mean cat?
[02:36] <abarbaccia> si signor
[02:36] <transgress> it means the cat
[02:36] <Razor-X> (I took Spanish a long long time ago (elementary) it was scary)
[02:36] <mdke> Ben_Babcock, i'm afraid I'm not an expert with acpi, which controls your fan
[02:36] <transgress> what an awful spelling of senor  (except the n should have that squiggly over it)
[02:36] <patt0n> que teclas devo de apretar
[02:36] <patt0n> para marcar gato
[02:36] <mdke> Ben_Babcock, i hope someone else will be able to help you, otherwise its important to file a bug so Ubuntu can fix the problem
[02:36] <transgress> what is marcar?
[02:37] <Razor-X> mark, I think
[02:37] <kvidell> something about a cat
[02:37] <Razor-X> i'm feeding this in a translator
[02:37] <Razor-X> 'In order to mark cat' ;)
[02:37] <kvidell> lol
[02:37] <patt0n> marcar   es presionar
[02:37] <dmb> sry, i just cannot live without gentoo
[02:37] <dmb> ill brb, rebooting into gentoo
[02:37] <mdke> he doesn't know what to click
[02:37] <dmb> ill still hangout here though
[02:37] <Razor-X> to mark is to press................
[02:37] <mdke> someone who speaks spanish pls help him out!
[02:38] <dmb> somone do a google translate
[02:38] <mdke> digitar /j #ubuntu-es
[02:38] <caonex> patt0n, estas?
[02:38] <patt0n> yes..
[02:38] <patt0n> si aca estoy
[02:38] <LinuxJones> night all
[02:39] <patt0n> pero no se como marcar el signo gato en el pc
[02:39] <concept10> Anyone have Broadcom 4306 based wireless?
[02:39] <caonex> patt0n, por que no entras al canal?
[02:39] <patt0n> no entiendo como entrar frnd..
[02:39] <Razor-X> ok, these tranlators _really_ need to get smarter (computer, I mean)
[02:39] <dmb> i can understrand what they are saying, i just can't right in spanish
[02:39] <caonex> patt0n, solo selecciona lo que te voy a escribir, como copiar y pegar: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:39] <caonex> patt0n, me comprendes?
[02:39] <mdke> we'll get there
[02:39] <lakin> Seveas, You around, and mind if I pm you with some more modifications to the WPAHowto?
[02:39] <mdke> if its a wiki...
[02:40] <mdke> plunge right in!
[02:40] <dmb> we need a irc admin to move him
[02:40] <nate> Hey anybody have a sec to check out my problem?
[02:40] <Razor-X> I think i'll start on the 'CLI Guide for n00bs'
[02:40] <nate> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41533
[02:41] <JonnyRo> I may be hallucinating, but rhythmbox occasionally greys out all the songs on import, and wont let me import them
[02:41] <nate> I posted it on the forums already
[02:41] <JonnyRo> is there something i'm missing about the operation of rhythmbox?
[02:41] <JonnyRo> in the import selection box
[02:41] <tritium> yay, patt0n you did it!
[02:41] <JonnyRo> the songs are all greyed out
[02:41] <mdke> awesome
[02:41] <JonnyRo> this is in ubuntu HH
[02:42] <tritium> drobbins, so what brings you to #ubuntu?
[02:42] <dennis_> Anyone here a master at configuring the ati drivers?
[02:42] <JonnyRo> no shit
[02:42] <JonnyRo> just noticed that
[02:43] <dennis_> I just installed them but I don't want to continue yet due to the advice given from a friend..
[02:43] <dennis_> I have to run the config....
[02:43] <dennis_> ;x
[02:43] <patt0n> senkio
[02:43] <tritium> dennis_, did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?
[02:43] <patt0n> grasias
[02:43] <dennis_> I had a friend help me
[02:43] <dennis_> I am at the config part...
[02:43] <synd> any VNC gui apps?
[02:43] <dennis_> He said not to continue due to the fact that it might fuck up and make me reinstall ubuntu
[02:43] <kvidell> synd: xvnc4viewer is my favourite
[02:43] <mdke> dennis_, you're using the new drivers?
[02:44] <tritium> dennis_, ?
[02:44] <dennis_> NOt yet....about to run the config to install the drivers...
[02:44] <tritium> synd, Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client
[02:44] <synd> kvidell: is there an xvnc4server ?
[02:44] <mdke> dennis_, where did you get the drivers?
[02:44] <dennis_> ati.com
[02:44] <kvidell> Iiii... donno, lemme check
[02:44] <mdke> dennis_, ok the new ones.
[02:45] <turnpike420> I'm having trouble recalling how to get wifi ipw2200 to do a scan in Ubuntu 5.04 ...
[02:45] <tritium> dennis_, you're not going to use the ubuntu packages?
[02:45] <kvidell> nope, xvnc4 is viewer only
[02:45] <synd> tritium: thanks
[02:45] <mdke> dennis_, i haven't heard much about them, but some people have reported that they work, others that they have had some difficulties
[02:45] <kvidell> although
[02:45] <tritium> dennis_, the only supported option is found on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:45] <kvidell> there is tightvncserver and vnc4server
[02:45] <kvidell> vnc4server - Virtual network computing server software
[02:46] <mdke> tritium, have you heard anything about the new drivers, whether they work and so on?
[02:46] <tritium> mdke, no, I haven't...
[02:47] <caonex> can anybody tell me if i can install ubuntu using an image from a hard drive?
[02:47] <nate> Can't anybody take a look at my problem??  I posted it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41533
[02:47] <nate> I'm seriously out of ideas
[02:47] <Burgundavia> dennis_, the frames win is not worth the hassle
[02:47] <bluefoxicy> so when I plug in my n52 Speedpad
[02:47] <dennis_> okay..
[02:47] <caonex> i do not have a burner and i do have the image, and do not have the cd. I do have the cd of knoppix and i know how to install it from knoppix.
[02:47] <bluefoxicy> will the Add New Hardware Wizard prompt me to submit my device info for my new unrecognized device to Ubuntu for reverse engineering?
[02:47] <mdke> nate, when does that problem occur?
[02:47] <dennis_> So just use the hoary fglrx method in that binarydriverhowto?
[02:47] <caonex> so if there is no known way of installing it with the image i will have to go that way.
[02:48] <nate> mdke: Anytime I try and play anything from Cedega
[02:48] <dmb> ok, byby, be back on gentoo
[02:48] <nate> mdke: but it never happened till I installed Wine
[02:49] <nate> mdke: even if I remove the packages for wine it still does it
[02:49] <mdke> nate, did you try the command it suggests ("LANG=etc")
[02:50] <nate> mdke: Is that in the /etc/enviroment file??  Is that what its refering to?
[02:50] <mdke> nate, on my system I just use that command
[02:50] <nate> hmm ok hang on
[02:50] <mdke> nate, but I'm not on Ubuntu right now, its worth a try!
[02:51] <lakin> nate, it depends on the shell you are using.  In bash you use: export LANG=etc
[02:51] <synd> kvidell: thanks!
[02:51] <turnpike420> how would I restart all networking in Ubuntu ?
[02:51] <bluefoxicy> rofl!
[02:51] <nate> mdke: ok so...what do I need to do to try this?
[02:51] <bluefoxicy> The speed pad works
[02:51] <bluefoxicy> as the left half of a keyboard
[02:51] <bluefoxicy> and the scroll wheel of a mouse XD
[02:51] <lakin> turnpike420, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:51] <turnpike420> lakin: thank you
[02:51] <mdke> nate, open a terminal, and type LANG=whatever
[02:52] <nate> mdke: I just put LANG=en_US
[02:52] <dennis_> Alright
[02:52] <dennis_> My FPS scores don't seem to have increased....
[02:52] <nate> mdke: It didn't return with anything...
[02:52] <dennis_> And I just installed the new drivers...
[02:52] <dennis_> :/
[02:52] <lakin> nate, when you run winex how are you doing it?  double clicking on an icon, or from the terminal?
[02:52] <mdke> nate, see if its worked with "env|grep LANG"
[02:52] <dennis_> Any suggestionis?
[02:52] <nate> mdke: yes that command checks out
[02:53] <mdke> nate, has it helped?
[02:53] <nate> mdke
[02:53] <drobbins> oops, missed tritium
[02:53] <synd> a computer doesnt have to have to be connected to the net for internal network VNCing, right?
[02:53] <dennis_> Anyone?
[02:53] <turnpike420> lakin: I'm on a T42 with ipw2200... any idea what I need to do if the wifi hardware LED didn't come back on?
[02:53] <nate> mdke: nah same thing
[02:53] <lonewolff> synd: no, you need no internet connection, just a local network
[02:53] <mdke> dennis_, did you read the notes on that page? sometimes they can be helpful
[02:53] <nate> mdke:
[02:53] <dennis_> Hmm
[02:53] <dennis_> Can I get the link again?
[02:54] <mdke> nate, have you tried running winex from the terminal
[02:54] <nate> mdke: I run Point2Play from the terminal to see the error
[02:54] <mdke> dennis_, on the wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo
[02:54] <synd> lonewolff: indeed what i said : p
[02:54] <lakin> turnpike420, make sure the correct modules are loaded in the kernel?
[02:54] <TreyB> man still cant get 3d acceleration to work o.O
[02:54] <mdke> nate, ok i'm spent
[02:54] <synd> lonewolff: thanks for the reassurance : )
[02:54] <mdke> sorry!
[02:54] <nate> mdke: If I don't run it from the terminal you don't see anything and nothing happens
[02:54] <lonewolff> synd: sorry i thot you were asking a question, i need sleep sorry
[02:54] <turnpike420> lakin: well, they should be... last thursday I was able to connect to an open access point... and in my condo, I see 13 right now!!  lol
[02:54] <nate> mdke: lol.... It doesn't make any sense...everything on my system checks out
[02:54] <turnpike420> at least, that's what iwlist shows
[02:55] <lakin> if iwlist is working, then the card is working, Dunno what's up with the LED's.
[02:55] <cookiemonstergri> hi
[02:56] <mdke> sometimes the leds are turned off to save power
[02:56] <vinux> TreyB, what's going on? Are you using Nvidia?
[02:56] <mdke> ati
[02:56] <TreyB> vinux: ati :-/
[02:56] <turnpike420> lakin: ya, I'm a bit baffled... still very new to Ubuntu (or any deb based distro)  I'm too familiar with rh based
[02:56] <mdke> TreyB, did you read the Notes section on that page?
[02:56] <dennis_> mdke can you please link me....I can't find it in my history thingy
[02:56] <vinux> TreyB, sorry I can't help you there.    I'm out of ideas http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41533
[02:59] <patt0n> hello
[02:59] <bosshoff> hey cookie, it might be that it is also detecting an integrated sound card
[02:59] <dennis_> dennis@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r
[02:59] <dennis_> >
[02:59] <patt0n> hello
[02:59] <dennis_> :(
[02:59] <rob^> is there anything I need to know before installing the nvidia drivers?
[02:59] <cookiemonstergri> integrated soundcard is disabled...
[03:00] <crimsun> rob^: yeah, don't.
[03:00] <lakin> cookiemonstergri, are you sure it's not muted?
[03:00] <nate> rob^: What nvidia card you got?
[03:00] <crimsun> rob^: read wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <rob^> fx something or other
[03:00] <c_rodge> hey i need some help in the gnome of ubuntu
[03:00] <TreyB> wtf now my opengl test failed too
[03:00] <TreyB> o.O
[03:00] <nate> rob^:  All the new nvidia drivers are crap for my 6800 GT ...I have tons of problems with the new ones above 6629
[03:01] <bosshoff> cookie, check out the mixer
[03:01] <c_rodge> why cant totem movie player play avi files, it says i dont have the right decoders
[03:01] <transgress> c_rodge: because you don't have the right codecs perhaps?
[03:01] <c_rodge> how do i get them
[03:01] <bosshoff> yes, read the introductory file m8
[03:02] <TreyB> man id prolly be better off poppin in my nvidia geforce 4200 ti card in
[03:02] <transgress> check out the wiki page on restricted formats
[03:02] <bosshoff> or the like 1000 forum posts
[03:02] <nate> rob^:  Your fine man.... you know how to install them right?
[03:02] <rob^> nate: just checking out the wiki.. it seems there are binary drivers already available via apt-get
[03:02] <bosshoff> word
[03:03] <bosshoff> apt-get install xorg-fglrx?
[03:03] <REds> apt-cache search fglrx
[03:03] <c_rodge> so does anyone know how i can get the right codecs for the totem movie player so i can play avi
[03:04] <crimsun> c_rodge: gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:04] <rob^> c_rodge, it depends, there are many different types of .avi
[03:04] <rob^> .avi is just a container format
[03:04] <c_rodge> what is gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:04] <c_rodge> well really i cant play anything in totem
[03:05] <cookiemonstergri> how do i become the root user? i didn't specify a root password, but when i say su it asks for a password
[03:05] <cookiemonstergri> i've tried my user password... doesn't work
[03:05] <crimsun> cookiemonstergri: use sudo instead. See the topic.
[03:06] <cookiemonstergri> ok, but most of the gui stuff (like know i want to extract a tgz from gnome) it says "don't have the right permission"
[03:06] <cookiemonstergri> know = now
[03:06] <caonex> is there a way to install ubuntu from an image
[03:06] <caonex> ?
[03:07] <Razor-X> cookiemonstergri: are you versed in CLI?
[03:07] <Razor-X> caonex: huh?
[03:07] <dennis_> Hello
[03:07] <cookiemonstergri> i'm versed in no form of language other than windows
[03:07] <dennis_> Alright...
[03:07] <rob^> haha
[03:07] <dennis_> I followed the wiki and did everything...
[03:07] <Razor-X> cookiemonstergri: Windows is a language? ;)
[03:07] <dennis_> I am still getting 339 FPS on average :(
[03:07] <caonex> Razor-X, yeah, like a cd-image or something.
[03:08] <Razor-X> i'm assuming you downloaded this off the internet, and saved it in your home director, cookiemonstergri?
[03:08] <caonex> Razor-X, the thing is that i am trying to install ubuntu and do not have cd-burner, but i have the cd-image already
[03:08] <Razor-X> caonex: from an existing GNU/Linux operating system?
[03:08] <rob^> bbs
[03:08] <bionic> Did tritium or what his name was leave?
[03:08] <dennis_> can anyone help?
[03:08] <Razor-X> caonex: do a netinstall
[03:08] <Razor-X> dennis_: 339 FPS is bad?
[03:09] <dennis_> While running glxgears?
[03:09] <cookiemonstergri> yep...
[03:09] <dennis_> I thought that was low...
[03:09] <caonex> Razor-X, dont i need to burn that in a cd?
[03:09] <juan> hello
[03:09] <ablyss> 30 fps is decent imho
[03:09] <caonex> juan, hello
[03:09] <_scott_> what is that apget command to get something from ubuntu?
[03:09] <Razor-X> the FPS I get on a FPS is about.... 50
[03:10] <dennis_> Run glxgears in a console
[03:10] <dennis_> I'm getting 600 FPS now
[03:10] <ablyss> anything lower than 15 fps is pushing it
[03:10] <juan> caonex, where you are?
[03:10] <dennis_> Run glxgears before you say anything...
[03:10] <dennis_> And say what you get...
[03:10] <caonex> juan, pa?
[03:10] <kvidell> 1424 frames in 5.0 seconds = 284.800 FPS
[03:10] <Razor-X> dennis_: 198
[03:10] <kvidell> Not bad for a laptop
[03:10] <_scott_> how do I install gcc or build essential?
[03:10] <dennis_> Hmm
[03:11] <dennis_> Okay
[03:11] <dennis_> I'm getting 600 now
[03:11] <Razor-X> I don't expect much from this, actually, it's an  old-ass card
[03:11] <dennis_> I'm trying to run WOW on CEdega with OpenGL support...
[03:11] <cookiemonstergri> i cannot even copy... cp: cannot create regular file `./alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a.tar.bz2': Permission denied
[03:11] <c_rodge> how do i install codecs??
[03:11] <caonex> juan, what do you mean, where am i?
[03:11] <dennis_> I'll tell you all if it works ;)
[03:11] <juan> whats is pa?
[03:11] <raz> hmm.. does linux need to get 'defragmented'?..
[03:11] <ChrisCF> This is odd.  Because of problems with my KVM switch, I've got "psmouse.proto=bare" in my boot options, and the stock kernels are rejecting it as an unknown option.  What option should I use instead to achieve bare PS/2 emulation?
[03:11] <Razor-X> hmmm, what's the LaTeX way of putting a title text smack dab in the middle of the page? you just draw the title then add a page break, or something?
[03:11] <_scott_> how do I install gcc or build essential?
[03:11] <rob^> raz, no
[03:11] <ChrisCF> Razor-X: \title ?
[03:12] <c_rodge> how do i install codecs
[03:12] <_scott_> can somebody please answer my question/
[03:12] <Razor-X> rob^: then what?
[03:12] <juan> sorry i want to know where do you come from
[03:13] <rob^> Razor-X, depends on which file system you use, ext3/raiserfs are smart enough not to become fragmented
[03:13] <juan> my english is dead
[03:13] <Razor-X> sorry, i'm just learning LaTeX, I can do my school essays all fine, but not like a book title page
[03:13] <Razor-X> y
[03:13] <caonex> juan, nothing, a typo
[03:13] <dennis_> This is starting to piss me off :/
[03:13] <_scott_> c_rodge: don't bother everyone here is too lazy to answer simple questions
[03:13] <Razor-X> sorry for the 'y', it's my SSH crapping
[03:13] <Heart_> .../media/cdrom1 is my dvd burner.... when i mkdir a folder "dvd" in /media how must the ln-command have to look so that there is a symb. link from "dvd" to "cdrom1"?
[03:13] <caonex> juan, join #ubuntu-es
[03:13] <raz> anybody uses 'defrag' under linux?!
[03:13] <dennis_> Ugh
[03:13] <Razor-X> rob^: and, that has to do with LaTeX, what?
[03:13] <ChrisCF> \title{The Art of Foo} - default styles have the title centered horizontally - a couple (perhaps \documentclass{book}) might also centre the cover page vertically too
[03:13] <dennis_> UGh x200000
[03:13] <Madpilot> _scott_: build essentials is in Synaptic, I'm pretty sure
[03:13] <eruin> mplayer is so horribly uninstallable
[03:13] <kvidell> _scott_: How about you grow some patience :)
[03:13] <rob^> Razor-X, sorry, I was talking to raz
[03:13] <Razor-X> ChrisCF: will try
[03:14] <Razor-X> ohh, there's a 'raz'
[03:14] <Razor-X> odd
[03:14] <kvidell> have you tried checking for them in synaptic, or aptitude, or even apt-cache ?
[03:14] <juan> ok, but i would prefer to practice some english
[03:14] <Razor-X> my mistake, sorry
[03:14] <rob^> yeah
[03:14] <rob^> np
[03:14] <raz> rob^, ty!..
[03:14] <eruin> has anyone successfully installed mplayer here?
[03:14] <Razor-X> well, yeah, ReiserFS and ext3 don't fragment
[03:14] <Razor-X> eruin: if it's attemptable, it's been done
[03:14] <_scott_> kvidell:I asked the same question and waited 2 hours for an answer and didn't get one. So don't talk to me about patience
[03:14] <Razor-X> well, they do fragment, very very slightly
[03:14] <Razor-X> all fixed by fsck
[03:14] <Razor-X> ;)
[03:14] <rob^> :) yes
[03:14] <ChrisCF> Razor-X: Try The not-so-short introduction (lshort.pdf), a decent book, or use LyX
[03:15] <Razor-X> ChrisCF: I'm using the former, right now
[03:15] <_scott_> madpilot:where is synaptic?
[03:15] <kvidell> _scott_: Calm down either way. Your attitude is unnecessary and not appreciated. People here who help help for free out of their own kindness. Thanklessness is something we come to expect but blunt rudeness is just not cool.
[03:15] <Razor-X> but it omits a lot of things, like centering text, increasing filesize, bolding, etc.
[03:15] <rob^> grr.. does ubuntu have the normal icons for Thunderbird and Firefox?
[03:15] <Burgundavia> _scott_, System-->admin-->synaptic
[03:15] <eruin> no
[03:15] <kvidell> _scott_: open a terminal, or hit Alt+F2 and type synaptic in that.
[03:15] <ChrisCF> Anyone know why my kernel is rejecting "psmouse.proto=bare" on bootup?
[03:15] <Burgundavia> rob^, no, due to trademark reasons
[03:15] <dennis_> Can anyone tell me how I could enable direct rendering for an ATI GPU?
[03:15] <_scott_> kvidell: every single person who has helped me to I have thanked.
[03:15] <eruin> rob^, youll get used to the non-mozilla icons eventually
[03:16] <rob^> ah
[03:16] <Razor-X> rob^: or, download 'em yourself
[03:16] <_magog_> i got DR17 working...YAY
[03:16] <rob^> np thanks
[03:16] <kvidell> That's good. And since you know people here DO help, even less reason for you to call us lazy :-P
[03:16] <Razor-X> _magog_: time to work on Eubuntu? ;)
[03:16] <_magog_> huh?
[03:16] <randabis> hi
[03:16] <_scott_> kvidell: how come I still get that no c complier found error then?
[03:16] <vinux> _magog_, what is DR17?
[03:16] <dennis_> Can anyone tell me how I could enable direct rendering for an ATI GPU?
[03:16] <Razor-X> _magog_: an Ubuntu distribution with DR17 as its default WM
[03:17] <_magog_> vinux, enllightenment dr17
[03:17] <Burgundavia> _scott_, you need to install build-essential
[03:17] <_magog_> Razor-X, yea
[03:17] <Razor-X> vinux: Enlightenment DR17
[03:17] <vinux> _magog_, cool
[03:17] <_magog_> Razor-X, dr17 is amazing
[03:17] <_scott_> Burgundavia: how do I go about doing that?
[03:17] <Razor-X> _magog_: i'ld think so
[03:17] <Burgundavia> _scott_, run synaptic, search for it, and install it
[03:17] <randabis> rob^: I believe there is a way to bring the default mozilla icons back. Check on the ubuntu forums
[03:17] <kvidell> actually
[03:17] <msg43> hi
[03:17] <kvidell> _scott_: Follow these steps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=108587&postcount=1
[03:17] <vinux> My favorite desktop is Xfce4, well for right now hehe
[03:17] <kvidell> That'll get your ubuntu setup going very nicely.
[03:17] <caonex> http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/, the images there are for hoary? or warty? last time i did it like a couple of weeks ago it was warty i think
[03:18] <eruin> huh? is DR17 done? I thought that was gonna be another duke nukem forever-type project
[03:18] <msg43> why should I recommend ubuntu instead of lets say fedora I would like to know so I can better help noobs pick a distro
[03:18] <ChrisCF> How do I get my mouse into bog standard bare PS/2 emulation instead of IMPS?  The kernel is rejecting "psmouse.proto=bare" as an unknown option
[03:18] <kvidell> should be able to build software just fine and a few other things.
[03:18] <E22> Some guy keeps using my nick guys
[03:18] <E22> is there some kind of ENFORCE option
[03:18] <E22> that will make them change if they dont identify
[03:18] <kvidell> you've registered the nick already?
[03:18] <E22> long ago
[03:18] <_scott_> kvidell, bargundavia: thanks I got it
[03:18] <ChrisCF> E22: /msg nickserv help ghost (I think)
[03:18] <xMaximex> how to get firefox to use "windows font"
[03:18] <eruin> msg43, would you really base your recommendation on second-hand opinion?
[03:18] <kvidell> mm
[03:19] <E22> yeah, I usually ghost anyone using it
[03:19] <kvidell> /msg nickserv help recover actually works better
[03:19] <Burgundavia> _scott_, what are you trying to compile?
[03:19] <eruin> try both and decide for yourself ;-)
[03:19] <msg43> eruin, yes considering I use a leet distro
[03:19] <E22> ive found ghost to be much faster
[03:19] <ChrisCF> kvidell: that'll be the one, then :)
[03:19] <kvidell> oh, okay
[03:19] <msg43> I've use both I just want to see what other ppl have to say
[03:19] <_scott_> burgundavia: alsa ./config
[03:19] <kvidell> then.... /msg nickserv help kill
[03:19] <kvidell> er
[03:19] <E22> just wondering if theres any way to stop someone chatting under it in the first place
[03:19] <kvidell> /msg nickserv help set kill
[03:19] <kvidell> that should let you set some restrictions
[03:20] <ChrisCF> Anyone know anything about kernel options relating to mice?
[03:20] <E22> what the hell
[03:20] <kvidell> (I'm not sure what services they use here, I'm going off of my knowledge Anope)
[03:20] <E22> the guy using the nick claims he regged it himself 4 years ago
[03:20] <kvidell> what nick?
[03:20] <dennis_> Can anyone here help me get direct rendering enabled...?
[03:21] <Burgundavia> Eddie, this discussion is mostly offtopic for #ubuntu, please take it elsewhere
[03:21] <kvidell> pm, eddie
[03:21] <_scott_> burgundavia: you wouldn't happen to know anything about sound cards and alsa would you?
[03:21] <Burgundavia> _scott_, it should just work, no compiling neccessary
[03:21] <wm_eddie_> >< too many eddies in this room
[03:22] <dennis_> Anyone?
[03:22] <dennis_> :(
[03:22] <ChrisCF> Any takers on mouse options?
[03:22] <Madpilot> _scott_: have you looked in Synaptic's ALSA packages?
[03:22] <dennis_> Any takers on Direct Rendering?
[03:22] <_scott_> burgundavia: no, I definately needed the compiler because now it compiles it just says that my sound card is unsupported
[03:22] <ChrisCF> Please don't make me get even less specific again ...
[03:22] <Burgundavia> dennis_, you followed wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[03:22] <dennis_> yes....
[03:22] <crimsun> _scott_: which card?
[03:23] <Burgundavia> dennis_, what was the outcome?
[03:23] <dennis_> IThe outcome?
[03:23] <dennis_> What do you mean?
[03:23] <_scott_> burgandavia,madpilot,crimsun: I have an audigy 2 zs
[03:23] <crimsun> _scott_: did you upgrade to alsa-driver 1.0.8 from universe's 'alsa-source' package?
[03:23] <crimsun> (brb)
[03:24] <dennis_> Burgundavia, what do you mean?
[03:24] <Burgundavia> dennis_, what kind of card do you have?
[03:24] <dennis_> Radeon 9600xt
[03:24] <evandroalb> hi!!
[03:24] <_scott_> burgandavia,madpilot,crimsun: I downloaded it, extracted it and then ran the  ./configure command
[03:24] <Burgundavia> dennis_, I have the same card, and have set up another
[03:25] <dennis_> Yay
[03:25] <ChrisCF> How do I get my mouse into "stupid" mode so it works with my KVM switch?  The kernel is ignoring "psmouse.proto=bare" claiming it's an unknown option
[03:25] <dennis_> Wanna help me?
[03:25] <Burgundavia> dennis_, follow the BinaryDriverHowto and it works fine
[03:25] <dennis_> I did everything on there...
[03:25] <_scott_> burgandavia,madpilot,crimsun: then it tells me that my card is unsupported
[03:25] <dennis_> Burgundavia, what is your average fps when you run glxgears?
[03:25] <Burgundavia> dennis_, what does 'glxinfo | grep OpenGL' give you?
[03:26] <dennis_> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:26] <dennis_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:26] <dennis_> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[03:26] <dennis_> OpenGL extensions:
[03:26] <Burgundavia> dennis_, ok, did you follow the note if you run an nforce2 board?
[03:26] <dennis_> Hmm
[03:26] <crimsun> _scott_: you didn't follow directions
[03:26] <_scott_> crimsun: in synaptic it tells me that alsa-base 1.0.8 is installed
[03:26] <crimsun> _scott_: alsa-base != alsa-source
[03:26] <dennis_> Noo...
[03:26] <_scott_> crimsun: oh
[03:26] <dennis_> Is there a note?
[03:26] <crimsun> _scott_: join me in #alsa
[03:26] <dennis_> I don't see it?
[03:28] <dennis_> ;)
[03:28] <evandroalb> Hi!! some days ago, i did a request for 10 cds of the distro in the official site... anyone has already did it and received the cds?? sorry for my english...
[03:28] <Burgundavia> dennis_, this note Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[03:28] <Burgundavia> evandroalb, they are shipping now, have patience
[03:29] <ChrisCF> What is the correct option for setting the protocol for a PS/2 mouse to the kernel at bootup?
[03:29] <evandroalb> Burgundavia, hehe, ok, thanks
[03:29] <dmb> i don't see how ubuntu gets the money to pay for these cds
[03:29] <dmb> i find it amazing
[03:29] <crimsun> dmb: its backer is a multimillionaire
[03:29] <Razor-X> dmb: donations, i'm guessing
[03:29] <Burgundavia> dmb, they have a wealthy backer (www.markshuttleworth.com)
[03:29] <evandroalb> dmb, i thinks it too
[03:29] <Razor-X> crimsun: really?
[03:29] <crimsun> Razor-X: yes. see the url Burgundavia typed.
[03:29] <wm_eddie_> dmb, Mark gets his money's worth of Kudos.
[03:29] <dmb> thats awsom
[03:30] <wm_eddie_> s/of/in/
[03:30] <misfit-toy> concept10, myGOD this FC upgrade takes forever!
[03:30] <crimsun> dmb: they will be.
[03:30] <Razor-X> wow, that's awesome
[03:30] <dennis_> Burgundavia, there is nothing about that on the page except at the bottom...
[03:30] <dmb> that mark is a really generuous person
[03:30] <Razor-X> misfit-toy: that's why you don't use FC ;)
[03:30] <dennis_> nvm
[03:31] <bionic> Hello, I followed the wiki ati drivers howto, everything went fine, the fglrx module is loaded but it doesnt seem to be used. fglrxinfo shows Mesa stuff. I checked the xorg log and it puts [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM" and after that 3d acceleration not available. Anyone please?
[03:31] <evandroalb> i'm ansious to use this distro... now i'm using kurumin, a brasilian distro based on knoppix
[03:32] <misfit-toy> Razor-X, I know, just been on it a long time, since FC1, but I'm telling ya, this laptop I'm on is blazing with UB
[03:32] <ChrisCF> When I boot up, I get (amongst other things) "Unknown boot option 'psmouse.proto=bare'  ignoring..." and as a result my mouse is going crazy whenever I switch over my  KVM.
[03:32] <dmb> does mark ever come around here?
[03:33] <ChrisCF> What option *should* I be giving it?
[03:33] <Burgundavia> dmb, the comes into #ubuntu-devel
[03:33] <dennis_> Burgundavia, after editing that ....Do I just reboot?
[03:33] <Burgundavia> dmb, he is a very hands-onj boss
[03:33] <Burgundavia> dennis_, yes
[03:33] <dennis_> k brb
[03:33] <Razor-X> hmmm... I think I have all 8.....
[03:34] <KodeK> Hi everyone!
[03:35] <evandroalb> KodeK, hi
[03:35] <KodeK> Does anyone have experience with multiple sound cards? I'm trying to disable my first one, but I do not want to do it from the BIOS.
[03:35] <ChrisCF> Sorry, I thought this was the Ubuntu help channel ...
[03:35] <ChrisCF> My mistake ;)
[03:36] <Burgundavia> ChrisCF, this is, but sometimes people can't answer you
[03:36] <ChrisCF> Shame, really.
[03:36] <Burgundavia> ChrisCF, why do you need to pass anything?
[03:36] <eruin> ugh, I wish gaim was more themable
[03:36] <dennis_> OMG YAY
[03:36] <dennis_> 12186 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2437.200 FPS
[03:36] <ChrisCF> Because my mouse goes crazy every time I change the position of the KVM switch
[03:36] <dennis_> :D
[03:37] <Burgundavia> kvm switch, fun
[03:37] <Burgundavia> file some bugs, because it should just work
[03:37] <ChrisCF> On my Fedora box, I set "psmouse.proto=bare" in the kernel boot options, and it's fine
[03:37] <dennis_> Burgundavia, it worked :D
[03:37] <ChrisCF> Albeit in "stupid mode", without the use of a scroll wheel, but usable.
[03:37] <dennis_> 22550 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4510.000 FPS
[03:38] <ChrisCF> Burgundavia: File some bugs?  Never dealt with KVM switch issues before, have you ...
[03:38] <KodeK> So, can anyone help me? Some distros have symlinks to the current sound device, but I can't seem to find them in ubuntu.
[03:38] <ChrisCF> Standard answer is "We can't and won't fix it.  There's a usable workaround though."
[03:39] <KodeK> dennis_, 22640 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4528.000 FPS :)
[03:39] <ChrisCF> The workaround is to tell the kernel to ignore whatever the mouse tells it and treat it as pure standard PS/2 with that boot option, only the Ubuntu kernel is rejecting it.
[03:40] <KodeK> be right back, peeps.
[03:40] <ChrisCF> Should I try in -devel instead?
[03:40] <bionic> Hello, I followed the wiki ati drivers howto, everything went fine, the fglrx module is loaded but it doesnt seem to be used. fglrxinfo shows Mesa stuff. I checked the xorg log and it puts [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM", cannot init AGP, and after that 3d acceleration not available. Anyone please?
[03:40] <misfit-toy> ChrisCF, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28643&highlight=kvm
[03:40] <randabis> dennis_: you do realize that glxgears is NOT a benchmarking tool? The numbers mean next to nothing
[03:41] <misfit-toy> bionic, make sure your card is supported first
[03:41] <bionic> misfit-toy, it sure is
[03:41] <dennis_> Hmm
[03:41] <dennis_> Has anyone here used cedega?
[03:41] <dennis_> Noone is active in their channel
[03:41] <kvidell> randabis: but it's so pretty.
[03:41] <ChrisCF> misfit-toy: A-ha, so it's just teh way you pass boot options in ubuntu which is broken :o)
[03:42] <dmb> dennis_: i have
[03:42] <dmb> the free one at least
[03:42] <dennis_> dmb, is there a reason why when I try and adjust the video optionis of a game...it stops the game to change it and then doesn't start it up again?
[03:42] <kvidell> ChrisCF: Why exactly d oyou need a mouse while booting, anyway?
[03:42] <dmb> sorry, don't know
[03:42] <dennis_> I tried to change the video options in wow...and it just stopped running after adjusting the prefrences?
[03:42] <dennis_> :(
[03:43] <kvidell> and has anyone yet recomended to you GPM?
[03:43] <dmb> i just got it all compiled and everything, never actualyl tried to use it
[03:43] <dennis_> Oh
[03:44] <cookiemonstergri> anyone willing to help a noob
[03:44] <cookiemonstergri> ?
[03:44] <ChrisCF> kvidell: That depends on whether or not you've read what I've been asking. ;-)
[03:46] <dennis_> Alright...I need a little help
[03:46] <dennis_> I set wow to run in windowed mode......
[03:46] <dennis_> But it lags too mucht o change it now...hoow would If ix it..?
[03:51] <cb122> hello all
[03:52] <caonex> http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/ does this contain hoary ones?
[03:54] <pedlar> hey everybody
[03:54] <_scott_> whoever wanted to install codecs before: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:54] <evandroalb> Hi again!! How to disable/remove the bootsplash??
[03:55] <penguin> hello all...my computer is hard freezing when I try to resize a window (ati radeon 7000, ubuntu 5.04)...can anyone shed some light?
[03:55] <evandroalb> penguin, may be the driver...
[03:55] <evandroalb> video driver..
[03:56] <penguin> it's weird...it worked fine with 4.10
[03:56] <evandroalb> penguin, hmm... so...  i don't know...
[03:56] <pedlar> what are the repositories called that start with an m?
[03:56] <penguin> I mean, not saying that can't be it
[03:56] <Madpilot> penguin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto  <-- read this?
[03:57] <penguin> but I would be suprised if there has been a driver update
[03:57] <evandroalb> Madpilot, do you know how to disable/remove the bootsplash??
[03:57] <penguin> ok...a point in the right direction perhaps...thanks Madpilot
[03:57] <Madpilot> penguin: oh, nvr mind, those don't apply to ATI 7000s, I don't think?
[03:57] <dennis_> Anyone know why I get this when I try and change the resolution in cedega? http://pastebin.ca/14431
[03:57] <Madpilot> evandroalb: what's a bootsplash?
[03:58] <evandroalb> Madpilot, the image that appear during the boot, subistitutes the boot in text mode
[03:59] <Madpilot> evandroalb: do you mean the BIOS splash that appears right after you power up?
[04:00] <Madpilot> because AFAIK Hoary lets most of the Linux text stuff just scroll past?
[04:00] <evandroalb> Madpilot, no no no... the splash that appears during the boot, substituting the text mode, the messages of initing...
[04:02] <Madpilot> evandroalb: OK, sorry. my misunderstanding. sorry, I don't know how to disable that last short splashscreen in Hoary.
[04:02] <evandroalb> Madpilot, hehe, ok, thanks :)
[04:04] <matt__> Hi, I asked a question in here earlier but my power went out in my house so I never got the answer so I will ask again. How do you make the resolution higher than 1024x768 in the system menu thats the highest it will go
[04:04] <Madpilot> need to reboot my machine; hope to be right back...
[04:06] <dennis_> "The X Server does not support XRandR extention. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available"
[04:06] <dennis_> (
[04:09] <cookiemonstergri> how do i change the refresh rate
[04:09] <cookiemonstergri> only option available is 60hz
[04:09] <Madpilot> cool, I have 3d accell again. excellent. can now blow things up in Scorched3d!
[04:10] <dmb> yes, i just got 3d acc working also
[04:10] <dmb> i am actually able to run doom3
[04:10] <dmb> a little...
[04:11] <Madpilot> dmb: try Scorched - it's in Syn. good fairly-mindless fun
[04:11] <Madpilot> :)
[04:11] <matt__> cookiemonstergri: I am sort of having the same prob
[04:12] <dmb> any of you try americas army?
[04:12] <dmb> it works on linux
[04:12] <IcemanV9> woot! after a workaround (of my own), the wireless card works! sheesh!
[04:12] <matt__> dmb: nope sorry
[04:12] <cookiemonstergri> matt__, check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:13] <cookiemonstergri> but my x11.conf says vert ref rate 40-72 hz
[04:13] <Madpilot> dmb: I'm a Canadian, not sure they'd let me d/l it... ;)
[04:13] <cookiemonstergri> still only have 60hz option
[04:13] <scott_> where can I get an mp3 decoder for ubuntu?
[04:13] <matt__> cookiemonstergri: thanks a ton
[04:13] <pedlar> gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:13] <pedlar> should be in synaptic
[04:14] <pedlar> scott_, that is an mp3 decoder
[04:14] <pedlar> !marillat
[04:16] <mebaran151> Madpilot, just dont use mplayer in front of the canadian police
[04:16] <scott_> pedlar: how do I get my soundcard to work?
[04:16] <Madpilot> mebaran151: huh? what's wrong w/ mplayer?
[04:16] <ukato> is there an easy way to switch from 24 bit color to 16 bit color from a terminal
[04:17] <pedlar> scott_, what kind is it?
[04:17] <mebaran151> it is technically illegal
[04:17] <mebaran151> as you can burn DVD's withit
[04:17] <mebaran151> and break copy right protection
[04:17] <IcemanV9> ukato: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: that's not it
[04:18] <Madpilot> mebaran151: ah, right. blah....
[04:18] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: it infringes on patents
[04:18] <ukato> icemanv9, is that seriously the only way
[04:18] <IcemanV9> ukato: well, if x server is not running, then 'startx --bpp 16'
[04:19] <mebaran151> oh
[04:19] <mebaran151> that too
[04:20] <mebaran151> libdvdcss says that it is illegal because the MPAA doesnt like it
[04:20] <toran> hey guys, I'm having a problem installing mencoder with apt-get
[04:20] <mebaran151> I can take screen shots
[04:20] <mebaran151> and sell them ... for CASH!
[04:20] <toran> please css http://pastebin.ca/14434
[04:20] <toran> *see
[04:20] <toran> not css
[04:20] <ukato> icemanv9, thanks
[04:20] <Madpilot> I pay an extra 25 cents per CD-R, supporting the d*mned recording associations
[04:20] <toran> please look at that link (http://pastebin.ca/14434) (it shows the errors I get) and help me.. thanks :)
[04:21] <Eddie> I weep at the thought of software patents
[04:21] <toran> me too
[04:21] <Madpilot> for CDs I'm only going to use for legal data... <mutter>
[04:21] <cthulfuego> Madpilot: use them!
[04:21] <toran> I should fly to europe and protest them
[04:21] <cthulfuego> Madpilot: .sue them even!
[04:22] <Eddie> toran: lol, if you did, you could stay in our student house for the duration of your visit
[04:22] <Madpilot> cthulfuego: heh. why not, when in the US & Canada the record ppl are suing like crazy anyway? :)
[04:22] <toran> haha Eddie
[04:22] <Eddie> though northern ireland probably isnt the most likely to respond in kind
[04:22] <toran> Eddie: what country?
[04:22] <toran> heh
[04:22] <toran> I see
[04:22] <Eddie> given that ireland is more or less MS Sponsored (tm)
[04:22] <Madpilot> the Canadian levy on blank audio CDs is 77 freakin' cents...
[04:23] <toran> could someone please look at http://pastebin.ca/14434 (it shows the errors I get with apt-get) and help me? thanks :)
[04:23] <Eddie> Madpilot: ?? thats mad, is that to discourage illegal CD copying or something?
[04:23] <Madpilot> Eddie: so the whole country suffers from BSOD?
[04:23] <Eddie> Madpilot: more like the whole country works for the BSOD
[04:23] <Madpilot> Eddie: got it in one.
[04:24] <Eddie> Madpilot: what about imports? although for such a trivial item that might sound laughable
[04:24] <Madpilot> toran: use Synaptic?
[04:24] <toran> Madpilot: I'll try
[04:24] <dmb> i'm more worried about software parents
[04:24] <Madpilot> Eddie: not sure, but it might be paid at the border.
[04:24] <pedlar> anybody know which repository the gstream0.8-faad source would be in?
[04:24] <Eddie> well considering an irishman is in control of our fates
[04:25] <Madpilot> supposedly the deaf can apply to get their data-CD levy returned to them - isn't that nice of the record ppl?
[04:25] <Eddie> and that its understandably in his interests to go ahead with the patents
[04:25] <Eddie> id say we're all screwed
[04:25] <misfit-toy> isn't Ireland also Dell country?
[04:25] <Eddie> its more or less a tech tax haven
[04:25] <Eddie> intel and MS are the big players
[04:25] <phoenixp3k2> Hello
[04:25] <dmb> bastards
[04:25] <Eddie> even in my short lifetime of just under a decade ive seen the changes
[04:25] <Eddie> erm
[04:25] <Eddie> just under two decades
[04:26] <dmb> isn't there already software patents in america?
[04:26] <phoenixp3k2> can someone suggest me a firewall besides firestarter
[04:26] <Eddie> lol big typo there
[04:26] <phoenixp3k2> it seems to bloc google
[04:26] <Eddie> dmb: thats what puzzled me, how america manages to cope with them
[04:26] <dmb> yeh, im from america so...
[04:26] <dmb> i never paid any attention to them
[04:26] <phoenixp3k2> and the irc as well
[04:27] <phoenixp3k2> some info on the firestarted problem?
[04:27] <Eddie> im visiting america for the first time this saturday
[04:27] <phoenixp3k2> found it sorry
[04:27] <Madpilot> phoenixp3k2: I'm running Firestarter right now, getting IRC & everything just fine. sorry, can't help you further, tho...
[04:27] <dmb> where in america?
[04:27] <Eddie> Orlando Florida
[04:28] <dmb> awsom, thats a nice place
[04:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> San Francisco here.
[04:28] <Eddie> flying economy class though, which is going to be hell
[04:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> A nicer place.
[04:28] <dmb> its hot as HELL here
[04:28] <dmb> 90s and 100s
[04:28] <Eddie> misfit-toy: pedlar: im a bit of a fan of texans, in a kinda naive misinformed way
[04:29] <misfit-toy> Eddie, hehe, everyone is misinformed about Texans.
[04:29] <Eddie> only ever met two texans in my life
[04:29] <Eddie> one was on holiday here and we had a short romance (or as close to romance as youd get at that age)
[04:29] <thechitowncubs> Texans are selfish
[04:29] <dmb> not neccesarilly
[04:30] <pibarnas> Hi people! I've just installed Ubuntu, and I have no sound in the system, despite everything seems to be found in hardware... my SB Live is configured, but I have no sound in gnome... does anyone experience this situation?
[04:30] <Eddie> one I met in a bar in a tourist port town a few miles away
[04:30] <misfit-toy> thechitowncubs, no we are actually shellfish
[04:30] <pedlar> Eddie, haha, we aren't all cowboys
[04:30] <phoenixp3k2> Madpilot: Sorry, an option was disable on firestater wich seemed to be the bug sorry
[04:30] <misfit-toy> thechitowncubs, shellfish on horses of course
[04:30] <pedlar> pibarnas, try typing alsa-mixer into the terminal and then unmuting the analogue out
[04:30] <Eddie> pedlar: Connor Trinneer, one cool mofo
[04:31] <pedlar> pibarnas, i've got an audigy2 and it had a similar issue
[04:31] <Madpilot> phoenixp3k2: np
[04:31] <spek> exit
[04:31] <Eddie> Madpilot: Met two canadians a few weeks back too, they were cool, let me try some canadian bourbon, something royal
[04:31] <Madpilot> Eddie: Crown Royal? :)
[04:31] <Eddie> Madpilot: thats the stuff
[04:32] <Eddie> big fancy looking bottle
[04:32] <Eddie> glass looks like you could knock out an elephant with it before itd break
[04:33] <kvidell> oh.. until I read up I thought you were talking about the platen glass in a CRT :-\
[04:33] <Eddie> lol
[04:33] <Eddie> never tried to break that
[04:33] <kvidell> it's tough stuff.
[04:33] <Eddie> punched it once and almost broke myself
[04:33] <pibarnas> alsamixer displays only cmedia card, that is onbord, not SB live... :(
[04:33] <Eddie> couldnt type for a while
[04:33] <kvidell> hehe
[04:33] <Madpilot> my monitor needs percussive maintance sometimes, when it starts to whine
[04:33] <Eddie> ive heard tales of sledgehammers bouncing off them
[04:34] <jmain> Does ubuntu come with all the compiler tools installed?
[04:34] <Madpilot> a swift slap cures that problem...
[04:34] <phoenixp3k2> Ok, it's really not working help!
[04:34] <Eddie> Madpilot: you watch enterprise?
[04:34] <phoenixp3k2> Can't use Google or IRC when Firestarter is activated
[04:34] <pedlar> pibarnas, disable the onboard in bios
[04:34] <Madpilot> Eddie: nope, sorry. i still miss Next Gen & DS9. can't stand Enterprise...
[04:35] <pedlar> pibarnas, you shouldn't have two sound cards active on a system anyway, no point
[04:35] <Eddie> Madpilot: I only like it because the engineer reminds me so much of my brother
[04:35] <Eddie> Madpilot: once you ignore that hes texan, his sense of humour etc, and he looks like him lol
[04:35] <Eddie> Madpilot: if my brother had a texan accent, hed BE trip tucker
[04:35] <IcemanV9> jmain: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:36] <jmain> cool thanks
[04:36] <phoenixp3k2> hello?
[04:36] <bhartman> Hi, everyone.  I'm new to Ubuntu.  I'm hoping someone can answer my question.  I'm trying to load my TrueType fonts from Windows, but I can't mount my Windows partition, because I don't know which one it is.  Is there somewhere I can go within Ubuntu to see what kind of filesystem is on each device?
[04:37] <Eddie> Madpilot: teampicard.net is worth a subtle chuckle of admiration
[04:37] <hondje> bhartman: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda for primary, hdb for secondary drive
[04:37] <JonnyRo> bhartman, from the command line, you can do a cfdisk of the hard drive to see the labels
[04:37] <JonnyRo> or do what hondje said, for a one liner
[04:38] <bhartman> thanks, JonnyRo, hondje. :)
[04:38] <phoenixp3k2> Any experts on Firestarter?
[04:38] <Madpilot> Eddie: looks like a SETI team - cool!
[04:40] <Eddie> Madpilot: I thought it was hilarious, picard, the coolest guy out (except maybe sisko, its a close call) and distributed computing
[04:41] <Madpilot> Eddie: is cool. I should get SETI running on this box - anyone ever run SETI in Hoary?
[04:41] <rob^> is anyone else having problems with the ubuntu-backports-mirrormax.net mirror?
[04:41] <pedlar> rob^, what kind of problems
[04:41] <Eddie> Madpilot: BOINC runs perfectly
[04:41] <pedlar> rob^, like, it doesn't have what you want, or it's b0rked?
[04:41] <Eddie> Madpilot: I use the client for predictor@home, it runs without a problem
[04:42] <rob^> everytime I go to update the package lists in synaptic it fails to download the list from there
[04:42] <phoenixp3k2> This problem is serious, people who get it can't log on IRC for help. So please advise
[04:42] <Eddie> Madpilot: http://boinc.berkeley.edu
[04:42] <rob^> the others work ok
[04:42] <Madpilot> didn't many of the backport URLs change a week or so ago?
[04:42] <Madpilot> Eddie: interesting URL - bookmarked. thnx
[04:42] <rob^> I'm using one of the guide at: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:42] <disasm> phoenixp3k2: you may want to try the firestarter mailing list, I'm not familiar with the product myself... You mentioned no google, is that no google, or no web what-so-ever?
[04:43] <cookiemonstergri> configure: error: this packages requires a curses library... what should i install ???
[04:43] <Lafitte-> during install Ubuntu discovered my wireless and asked me for a WEP key ....i gave it my home key and now it fefaults to that key everytime ...../etc/network/interfaces seems to rebuild the key if i delete it
[04:43] <phoenixp3k2> disasm: all google websites are blocked
[04:43] <Lafitte-> i need to disable the key by default
[04:43] <darius___> Lafitte-: I have the same problem
[04:43] <phoenixp3k2> disasm: IRC is blocked also, had to disable it in order for those to work
[04:44] <Lafitte-> darius___, i know if you dont give key during install  its all good