[00:01] <weather15> Denni: Sorry, I just connected to the IRC channel, maybe I can help with your question?
[00:17] <Denii> if anybody have some intrest to read the pastebin, would get that im using linux mint then :)
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Denii, This channel does not support mint, it is not our personal rules go to the mint channel, you are wasting your time here. ;)
[00:18] <reisio> Denii: most people aren't willing to scour their buffer/log for things they weren't present for, IME
[00:21] <kylepotts> win 2
[00:24] <jimi_> holy shit an upgrade takes a whole hell of a lot longer than a fresh install
[00:24] <jimi_> this is like a 6 hour upgrade
[00:26] <donvito> hello is there a way to delete unused linux distro?
[00:26] <cong> yep that's why a fresh install is better, and it has less things going wrong.
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> donvito, Yes what is left and does it boot?
[00:26] <donvito> im upgrading to -49 distro
[00:26] <donvito> so all others i want to delete
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> donvito,  -49 distro?
[00:27] <donvito> 3.2.0-49
[00:27] <donvito> sorry
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> donvito, Thats a kernel not a OS.
[00:27] <donvito> than sorry again :)
[00:28] <donvito> i want to delete old kernels ;)
[00:28] <Denii> reisio: what are you talking about?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> donvito, Here are several ways, using ubuntu-tweak is probably the easiest. http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> you can do it manually as well.
[00:30] <reisio> Denii: ?
[00:30] <Denii> haha :)
[00:36] <neworder> hi guys
[00:36] <neworder> I set password for linuxmint but it doesn't prompt me when I restart my computer
[00:37] <jrib> !mint | neworder
[00:39] <Denii> would cinnamon and mate get applied to ubuntu? :D
[00:40] <Denii> Ubuntu + MATE, Cinnamon = Linux Mint :)
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> Denii, Your argument is a waste of time, we see this all day and night no one is ever helped here.
[00:41] <reisio> isn't cinnamon for gnome 3?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> cinnamon is in the repo
[00:41] <reisio> yeah?
[00:41] <reisio> what else is in the repo? :p
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> reisio, reisio-he-good-desktop
[00:42] <Denii> maybe im talking to the wrong person :P
[00:42] <reisio> :p
[00:42] <reisio> Denii: nobody knows what you want anyways
[00:42] <Sazpaimon> is there something about ubuntu's disk encryption in recent kernels that isn't compatible with FreeOTFE?
[00:43] <Sazpaimon> I cannot or the life of me get my dm-crypt partition to be unlocked by it
[00:43] <Sazpaimon> I know this isn't technically ubuntu but I encrypted the disk using the ubuntu mini iso
[00:43] <reisio> given that the last release of FreeOTFE was apparently 3+ years ago, that's entirely possible
[00:44] <Denii> no, do you?
[00:44] <reisio> Denii: pardon?
[00:44] <Sazpaimon> yeah it's been a while
[00:44] <Sazpaimon> I dont know if the implementation of LUKS has changed in recent years
[00:44] <reisio> I would be dumbfounded if it hadn't
[00:44] <Sazpaimon> That sucks, I'd really like to be able to at least read my rootfs partition in Windows
[00:45] <reisio> Sazpaimon: so you have older installs that it works with?
[00:45] <Sazpaimon> reisio, no, this is my first foray into LUKS
[00:45] <Denii> haha really, that sad
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> Sazpaimon, You can get all the ubuntu releases if that helps to get in.
[00:46] <reisio> Sazpaimon: oh, so you aren't actually missing something you once had :)
[00:46] <Sazpaimon> Nah
[00:47] <Sazpaimon> Well if any of the backwards incompatible changes to LUKS increase its security from exploits I would not want to downgrade
[00:47] <Sazpaimon> I'm also using UEFI so anything before 12.04 would be a problem to install
[00:47] <reisio> Sazpaimon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm-crypt#Compatibility
[00:48] <Sazpaimon> "Encrypted Ext2, Ext3 and Ext4 filesystems are supported by use of Ext2Fsd (all ext* versions) or Ext2 Installable File System for Windows (ext2 and ext3 only) and with FreeOTFE"
[00:48] <reisio> ext2fsd is superior
[00:48] <Sazpaimon> I have both of these, ext2fsd works with my ext4 /boot/ partition, but FreeOTFE will not accept my passkey
[00:48] <reisio> the way I read it didn't suggest you needed both
[00:49] <Sazpaimon> Well, you need FreeOTFE to unlock the volume, then ext2fsd to be able to read the ext2/3/4 data
[00:49] <Sazpaimon> FreeOTFE doesn't support any filesystem, and ext2fsd doesn't support any encryption, you need both to work
[00:49] <reisio> ah
[00:50] <Sazpaimon> It knows the volume is LUKS but it just doesn't accept my password
[00:50] <neworder> jrib: Just assume I'm using ubuntu =)
[00:50] <Sazpaimon> It's really odd
[00:50] <neworder> So what do I do
[00:50] <neworder> When I restart my com, the login screen does not appear
[00:50] <reisio> Sazpaimon: you could do it with a virtualized GNU/Linux system
[00:50] <Sazpaimon> That's what I'm gonna have to do :/
[00:51] <reisio> you might check if anybody else has this problem first
[00:51] <switching> does anyone know how to enable h.264 support in nightly? I searched for gstreamer.enabled in about:config and nothing came up
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> switching, 13.10?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> !13.10
[00:51] <switching> wilee-nilee no 13.04
[00:51] <Sazpaimon> I have checked, I googled the error message I get from FreeOTFE (Unable to mount volume), and came up empty
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> switching, There is no nightly for 13.04
[00:52] <switching> wilee-nilee i just installed it.. ?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> switching, check the date, it has been released the nightly's stop then.
[00:52] <Sazpaimon> and the program is not verbose enough to tell me what the issue is exactly
[00:53] <reisio> Sazpaimon: maybe you're just doing something wrong, then
[00:53] <reisio> but even if you weren't, I'd hate to rely on dead software
[00:53] <switching> wilee-nilee sorry, what do you mean "it has been released the nightly's stop then"?
[00:53] <reisio> waste of time even learning how to use it
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> switching, I can't say it any clearer.
[00:54] <Sazpaimon> reisio, I agree
[00:54] <switching> wilee-nilee well what is "the nightly's stop"?
[00:54] <Sazpaimon> my only guess is that it doesn't accept a passphrase and only a key?
[00:54] <Sazpaimon> Because when it asks me to unlock it, it gives me the option of "user entered" and "read from keyfile" for a key
[00:55] <Sazpaimon> with "read from keyfile" giving the option "Keyfile contains an ASCII password"
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> switching, Ubuntu has a 6month development of each release, at the end of that six months it is called a release, at that point the nightly's that are part of the development cycle stop.
[00:55] <Sazpaimon> I tried making a text file with my passphrase in it, and feeding it to mount dialog with that option checked, and it still did not work
[00:55] <Sazpaimon> is there a way to have dm-crypt require either a key OR a passphrase?
[00:55] <Sazpaimon> then I can just keep the key on my bitlocker encrypted Windows partition and it'd be safe
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> switching, Anyway this is not part of your problem per-say unless you are actually running 13.10 and then #ubuntu+1 is the channel you would use
[00:56] <switching> wilee-nilee I know that, but that shouldn't make enabling gstreamer an issue right?
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> what?
[00:57] <switching> wilee-nilee why does the fact that nightly stops at the end of a development cycle affect one's ability to enable gstreamer in nightly 25 on ubuntu 13.04?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> switching, WE have to able to communicate, we are actually yet to do so, I can't help good luck. ;)
[00:58] <switching> wilee-nilee haha ok
[00:58] <Sazpaimon> cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/mapper/<device> (/path/to/<additionalkeyfile>) -d /path/to/<keyfile>
[00:58] <Sazpaimon> okay
[00:58] <Nick119119> Hey guys! Rather complex question this time, as I need help setting up a partition with GParted
[00:59] <Sazpaimon> I'm gonna try this and add a keyfile to my luks disk and see if FreeOTFE accepts it
[00:59] <switching> anyways, does anyone know why gstreamer.enabled isn't turning up any results in about:config on nightly 25 in ubuntu 13.04?
[00:59] <Sazpaimon> hopefully just storing the key on bitlocker will be safe enough
[00:59] <switching> i just made sure that gstreamer is installed, too
[01:00] <Sazpaimon> i hate having to depend on bitlocker on windows but it's the only UEFI-compatible boot partition encryption system that can actually be mounted in linux
[01:00] <Sazpaimon> and I'm weird and share my home folder on linux with my home folder on windows
[01:00] <reisio> what now?
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, can you screenshot it in a imagebin and state you goals.
[01:00] <Sazpaimon> I mount my home folder from windows as my linux home folder. NTFS-3G works great with it and neither windows nor linux cares
[01:01] <Sazpaimon> been doing it for about 6 months now
[01:01] <reisio> yeah but what about boot partitions?
[01:01] <Nick119119> I'm trying to make a partition to install windows 7, so I can boot into it if I need to. What should I screenshot?
[01:01] <Sazpaimon> There isn't another disk encryption system that supports encrypting your windows boot partition if you use UEFI that is also compatible with Linux
[01:01] <reisio> Nick119119: you don't even need a partition, just free space
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, gparted what you asked about.
[01:01] <reisio> 20GB's worth
[01:02] <reisio> and keep in mind it might wipe out your GRUB
[01:02] <Sazpaimon> there's a few commercial alternatives that support UEFI booting an encrypted windows boot drive, but they don't have unlocking tools on Linux
[01:02] <Nick119119> I tried installing it already, it said it couldn't because it wasn't formatted to ntfs or whatever
[01:02] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:02] <Sazpaimon> Bitlocker has both, so I can freely mount windows bitlocker volumes in linux
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> no partition=boot partition, if you want one.
[01:02] <reisio> Nick119119: that is unlikely :)
[01:02] <reisio> Nick119119: maybe you made a partition and formatted it
[01:02] <reisio> Nick119119: in any event, it only needs free space, you don't actually have to make a partition
[01:03] <Sazpaimon> I really wish Truecrypt wasn't essentially a dead project, I'd love to use it in place of Bitlocker
[01:03] <reisio> Sazpaimon: isn't uefi grand...
[01:03] <reisio> truecrypt is mystery meat
[01:03] <reisio> why not just keep sensitive data out of your Windows
[01:03] <reisio> which I assume you use for games
[01:03] <Nick119119> http://imagebin.org/263550
[01:04] <pfifo> hello fellas
[01:04] <Sazpaimon> it's not about sensitive data, it's about peace of mind
[01:04] <Nick119119> Don't need just free space, cause it wouldn't let me install win7 to either partition because it was an unrecognized format.
[01:04] <reisio> Sazpaimon: isn't the peace of mind from not having people see your sensitive data? :p
[01:04] <reisio> Nick119119: partitions aren't free space, they're partitions
[01:04] <reisio> Nick119119: you only have one hard disk?
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, As suggested you need a free space fpr windows to install, it will not resize the others
[01:05] <Sazpaimon> the peace of mind is that if my laptop is stolen, I can rest easy knowing that all the drives in it are useless to them
[01:05] <Sazpaimon> even if there's no sensitive data on it
[01:05] <Nick119119> But you have to install an OS to a partition, which I can't do because it says it's an invalid format. I have 200gb of free space
[01:05] <reisio> Sazpaimon: so at most you've lost them $50?
[01:05] <Ben64> Sazpaimon: they can just format it...
[01:05] <reisio> Nick119119: you only have one hard disk?
[01:05] <Nick119119> I'm pretty sure
[01:05] <Sazpaimon> yeah I mean that they can't access a single thing on it
[01:05] <reisio> people don't steal laptops to sell them at competitive prices, anyways
[01:06] <reisio> they steal them to sell them for $5 of crack
[01:06] <reisio> why not use truecrypt then
[01:06] <reisio> has as much of a future as windows
[01:06] <reisio> Nick119119: okay, then you'll have to resize your partitions to make space if you want to install Windows alongside Ubuntu
[01:07] <reisio> Nick119119: resizing partitions is not 100% safe, so consider backing up important data if you haven't already beforehand
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> do lvm's read a full generally?
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> as*
[01:07] <Sazpaimon> because being able to boot all of my encrypted volumes regardless of the OS on them is important to me
[01:07] <reisio> wilee-nilee: ?
[01:07] <Sazpaimon> even if it does mean using closed-source encryption software
[01:08] <reisio> Sazpaimon: it's just important to most people it's important to because they have sensitive data, was my point :p
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> reisio, The sda5 says it is full.
[01:08] <reisio> oh indeed
[01:08] <Sazpaimon> I also can't guarantee I won't recieve sensistive data while on windows for whatever reason
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> 4mib empty, hee
[01:09] <reisio> I'm guessing yes, he'd probably have noticed if he only had 4.00 MiB of space left :p
[01:09] <reisio> yeah :p
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[01:09] <reisio> Sazpaimon: you could, but obviously you don't care to :D which is fine
[01:09] <Sazpaimon> so just being able to have peace of mind should that ever happen is great
[01:10] <Sazpaimon> which also means I have another reason to tell my bosses that it's okay for me to connect my laptop to their internal network
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> Sazpaimon, All encrypted I doubt you ever have a peace of mind. ;)
[01:11] <Nick119119> I can't resize the partition, it lets me click move/resize, but once the menu pops up, the resize button is greyed out no matter what I try
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Two things it looks like the partition is completely full, and you have the swap on.
[01:12] <reisio> Nick119119: is this a laptop?
[01:12] <Nick119119> It is a laptop, but I don't have swap on and I have 200gb of free space. The onlyt hings installed are Ubuntu and Minecraft
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> or actually sda5 mounted doh
[01:12] <reisio> you might need to resize the lv first
[01:12] <reisio> I don't play with lvm often
[01:13] <reisio> Nick119119: http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20resize%20lvm%20partition
[01:13] <Nick119119> Thanks
[01:13] <reisio> yeah you'll want to do it from a live OS as well
[01:13] <reisio> like the install media ('try')
[01:20] <Gromit> hey
[01:21] <Kyan[> hi
[01:21] <Gromit> I have a question that isn't stricly Ubuntu related but this is my go to channel for tech help so I'm just going to put it here to see if anyone can help:
[01:21] <Kyan[> is there a bash script compiler? not shc please
[01:22] <Gromit> If I create a VPN connection why would I need an additional proxy? I'm referring to this LifeHacker article: http://lifehacker.com/5978098/turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-personal-vpn-for-secure-browsing-anywhere-you-go
[01:23] <pfifo> Is there a middle ground between sudo -s and sudo -i, I want to become root with everything in my enviroment setup like -s except for HOME and maybe a few others, -i is complete overkill.
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> !sudo
[01:24] <pfifo> wilee-nilee, thanks but I just got done checking the manual :) wouldnt have asked without checking first
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, If you had actually researched you would know ubuntu is not designed to run in root and it is detrimantal.
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> nor will anyone here help you within channel rules.
[01:26] <pfifo> wilee-nilee, I think you think im asking something else?
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> I want to become root with everything in my enviroment
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> maybe a better explanation at least for me I'm kinda slow. ;)
[01:30] <pfifo> I know knot to set root password and such, ubuntu isnt designed for that. Im tring to use sudo to become root so I can work which is usually done with sudo -i, or atleast thats whats recommended, I however use sudo -s to keep custom PATH and several other things I set as my normal user, but in this case I want to over ride a few things so my enviroment is more suitable for livecd development.
[01:30] <reisio> mmmm
[01:31] <pfifo> Im thinking about just creating a new user with the correct enviroment setup and then switching to that user, and then using sudo -s... but thats quite the workaround
[01:34] <Sazpaimon> also, another issue I've been having
[01:34] <pfifo> ohh wow, sudo -s and -i isnt supported, thats a new one on me, havent been here in awhile. disregard my issue, ill look elsewhere
[01:34] <Sazpaimon> I find myself needing to modprobe -r ath9k; modprobe ath9k several times before my wifi card is picked up
[01:34] <Sazpaimon> how can i fix this?
[01:36] <Sazpaimon> it's really annoying because I keep running into "waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration" during startup
[01:36] <pfifo> Sazpaimon, you should only need todo it once to actually load it, reproduce the error and then run it once, then check the output of 'lsmod' to ensure its loaded, if it is loaded then your problem lies elsewhere
[01:37] <Sazpaimon> i check lsmod as soon as I log in, ath9k is loaded
[01:38] <Sazpaimon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848529/ here's my dmesg for my most recent boot
[01:40] <Sazpaimon> you can see wlan0 only shows up after a few unloads
[01:40] <Sazpaimon> I had this same issue with a broadcom card, but I thought it was due to the buggy closed source broadcom drivers, so I switched to the atheros card, with the same problems
[01:41] <wheatthin> now show if lsmod is ath9k or ath3k
[01:42] <Sazpaimon> lsmod |grep ath: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848534/
[01:43] <wheatthin> k..
[01:43] <wheatthin> in your modules.d, I think, you need to block ath3k from loading
[01:43] <Guest42443> Greetings! I was just wondering if anybody could guide me or at least point me to the correct direction. I recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS and noticed that video playback is slow, regardless if it's a video from the web or from a file I have in my HDD
[01:43] <pfifo> I agree
[01:43] <Sazpaimon> yeah I'll try to blacklist ath3k
[01:43] <reisio> Guest42443: /nick xfcevideoguy
[01:44] <Sazpaimon> ok let me reboot and see if it's resolved
[01:44] <reisio> xfcevideoguy: :)
[01:45] <reisio> xfcevideoguy: slow...er than what?
[01:47] <xfcevideoguy> reisio, slow and not tolerable. I mean the files I am trying to play have been tested to play just fine from any other player from Windows 7. Plays just great in VLC Win version, but not in Xubuntu.
[01:48] <reisio> xfcevideoguy: on the same hardware?
[01:49] <pfifo> xfcevideoguy, can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod && lshw' and what player do you use?
[01:49] <xfcevideoguy> reisio, yes, on the same hardware. This is an old desktop BTW, but yes it plays those videos just fine.
[01:49] <reisio> xfcevideoguy: what graphics hardware? driver?
[01:50] <xfcevideoguy> reisio, ATI Radeon 9250 series.
[01:50] <Sazpaimon> no luck
[01:51] <pfifo> Sazpaimon, do you need your wifi to connect to this chat?
[01:51] <Sazpaimon> I blacklisted ath3k (which turns out is probably the bluetooth chip) and wlan0 didn't show up until I modprobe -r'd ath9k and re-modprobed it several times
[01:51] <Sazpaimon> pfifo, no, I'm connected here over another machine
[01:52] <reisio> xfcevideoguy: and which driver?
[01:52] <Sazpaimon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848548/ pastebin of my latest dmest
[01:52] <Sazpaimon> *dmesg
[01:53] <pfifo> can you reboot and pastebin the output of 'lsmod && rfkill list && dmesg' before you fuss with the driver
[01:54] <xfcevideoguy> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848549/ pastebin of lsmod & lshw
[01:54] <reisio> pfifo:
[01:55] <Sazpaimon> will do, let me just install rfkill
[01:55] <Sazpaimon> rebooting now
[01:55] <pfifo> xfcevideoguy, and what player do you use? VLC
[01:56] <xfcevideoguy> reisio, I haven't installed any driver manually. I'm using VLC, yes.
[01:57] <wheatthin> Sazpaimon, I think ath3k is still being loaded
[01:57] <wheatthin> and disregarded afterwards
[01:58] <xfcevideoguy> pfifo, VLC, yes. But any other player displays the same output.
[01:58] <reisio> xfcevideoguy: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:58] <pfifo> xfcevideoguy, in vlc, goto tools->preferences (ctrl+p) then select the video tab on the left, under that section youll notice a dropdown for 'output' select the x11 driver and see if you get better performance, if not try the opengl driver and see if it gets better performance.
[01:59] <wheatthin> Sazpaimon, cat /etc/modules to see if its in there
[02:00] <barretj> hello, i'm trying to run ufw on my chromebook running Ubuntu 13.04, but am getting some errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848556/
[02:00] <barretj> i suspect it has something to do with the fact that i am not using the stock Ubuntu 13.04 kernel
[02:00] <xfcevideoguy> reisio, checking... thanks for the link.
[02:01] <switching> does anyone know why openjdk7 won't update to u25?
[02:01] <xfcevideoguy> pfifo, will try that too. Thanks!
[02:01] <barretj> anyone here running ubuntu on a chromebook?
[02:02] <Sazpaimon> wheatthin, I unblocked it, it wasn't doing anything and plus it's the bluetooth driver so it has nothing to do with the wifi card
[02:02] <Guest40834> don't install Ubuntu 13.04
[02:03] <Sazpaimon> anyway this time I just waited a while and eventually the wireless card showed up
[02:03] <Sazpaimon> i didnt unload any modules
[02:03] <switching> guest40834 why not?
[02:03] <barretj> what's wrong with 13.04?
[02:03] <wheatthin> Sazpaimon, actuall ath9k has the bluetooth with it
[02:03] <wheatthin> actually*
[02:04] <Guest40834> its not good
[02:04] <switching> guest40834 how so? i am using it right now
[02:04] <pfifo> Sazpaimon, could be interference from a neighbor, try using a different channel. It could also be failing hardware, i dont have a fix for that... yet... :)
[02:05] <Sazpaimon> wheatthin, im pretty sure it's still a different chip on the card itself
[02:05] <Guest40834> yeah i used it for 1 day and then it just you know kabotte
[02:05] <wheatthin> pfifo, negative, the ath9k actually controls the bluetooth within as well. it's module confliction
[02:05] <Sazpaimon> I see an atheros bluetooth card when I lsusb
[02:06] <pfifo> wheatthin, could have swore he blacklisted 3k
[02:06] <switching> guest40834 what is kabotte? and what exactly happened?
[02:06] <wheatthin> ath9k supports 2-wire and 3-wire Bluetooth coexistence, for details see the ath9k btcoex page.
[02:06] <wheatthin> yes, but it's also loading in /etc/modules
[02:06] <barretj> anyone know what might be causing these problems? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848556/
[02:06] <pfifo> ahh, then I got ahead of myself
[02:07] <Sazpaimon> I did blacklist it, but I removed it from the blacklist when it did nothing to fix the issue
[02:07] <Sazpaimon> I did confirm that ath3k was not being loaded
[02:07] <Sazpaimon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848571/ lsusb output where you can see that there's an atheros bluetooth device
[02:07] <wheatthin> Sazpaimon, did you also make sure it's not in /etc/modules?
[02:07] <Guest40834> black screen - kabotte is an svenski namn för sönder
[02:07] <Sazpaimon> I did, it's not there
[02:08] <Morph4me> Sazpaimon, can you run this  to see if you gert anything > lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[02:08] <Sazpaimon> only 3 modules there are loop, lp, and rtc
[02:08] <Morph4me> get*
[02:08] <switching> guest40834 when did the black screen occur? were you able to boot into ubuntu? to what point? be more specific plz
[02:08] <Sazpaimon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848574/
[02:08] <switching> also does anyone here know, generally speaking, about openjdk?
[02:09] <Guest40834> 10 sec after longing in
[02:09] <wheatthin> !default-jdk | switching
[02:09] <Sazpaimon> IIRC, I dont think I had this problem on 12.04 or 12.10, but this is a fresh install from a mini.iso
[02:09] <Guest40834> im installing 12.10 now
[02:10] <Sazpaimon> I only installed cinnamon desktop, software-center, and all their dependencies
[02:10] <wheatthin> !jdk
[02:10] <switching> wheatthin i just need to know why there isn't an openjdk7u25
[02:10] <switching> guest40834 you might want to go with 12.04 for the lts
[02:10] <Guest40834> ok have a fin day
[02:10] <switching> guest40834 and from what i've seen it has gotten better reviews than 12.10
[02:11] <wheatthin> switching, http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-openjdk-7-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[02:12] <Sazpaimon> and like I said, this most recent boot I didn't do anything other than wait, after about 5 or so minutes the device showed up
[02:12] <switching> wheatthin i already have it installed
[02:12] <Sazpaimon> for the record, this doesn't happen on windows
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> barretj, Stock kernels are only supported here, just a heads up, does not mean you wont get help. ;)
[02:16] <draconus> hello folks
[02:20] <barretj> wilee-nilee: thanks, unfortunately the chromebook cannot run a stock ubuntu kernel
[02:21] <draconus> is there anything better than xen when it comes to virtualization?
[02:21] <SnapSnap> What time server does Ubuntu 13.04 synchronize with by default?
[02:22] <pfifo> SnapSnap, one of the ubuntu.pool.ntp.org
[02:23] <SonikkuAmerica> SnapSnap: If you're in the US, I'd go with time.nist.gov if you can select your server
[02:23] <SnapSnap> SonikkuAmerica, how do I select my server?
[02:23] <pfifo> SonikkuAmerica, you can change it in /etc/ntp.conf
[02:24] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: Ah. SnapSnap, see what pfifo said.
[02:24] <lauratika> ubntu keep mirror display even i just have one minitor, how can i tell ubuntu that i only have one monitor?
[02:25] <SnapSnap> pfifo, how do I change what server it syncs with?
[02:26] <SonikkuAmerica> draconus: Are you looking to create and use VMs?
[02:27] <pfifo> SnapSnap, edit the firl /etc/ntp.conf, before the section that lists ubuntu's servers add a line that says 'server time.nist.gov' you can and should leave the ubuntu servers there as a backup
[02:27] <pfifo> file*
[02:28] <maximus2> dragonisis
[02:28] <lauratika> ubuntu thinks i have 2 monitors
[02:29] <SnapSnap> pfifo, but it will sync to nist primarily?
[02:29] <maximus2> pp yea right
[02:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh draconus, are you there?
[02:29] <maximus2> dragonisis!!!!!!
[02:29] <pfifo> SnapSnap, it will try nist first, if there server is down it will move to the next entry on the list
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> maximus2: :P
[02:30] <maximus2> what im in rage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> draconus: For VMs, you can use VirtualBox, QEMU or GNOME Boxes (that last one don't even try)
[02:32] <Es0teric> when adding hosts in /etc/hosts file... can you add ports as well? as in <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 site.dev ?
[02:32] <SnapSnap> pfifo, there's no file called ntp.conf in /etc. Do I need to create it?
[02:32] <SonikkuAmerica> SnapSnap: [ sudo apt-get install ntp ]
[02:33] <pfifo> SnapSnap, it could be /etc/ntp/ntp.conf (im referencing a 12.04 system)
[02:33] <xentity1x> has anyone figured out how to reneable workspaces for gnome in ubuntu 13.04
[02:33] <ef5c_ef5c> Es0teric, what are you trying to do?
[02:34] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c i have a vagrant setup and i want to point local domains to the vagrant box but it only works through port 80
[02:34] <SnapSnap> pfifo, No such folder. I'm running 13.04
[02:34] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c i mean 8080
[02:34] <SnapSnap> pfifo, SonikkuAmerica, I installed NTP. The file is there now
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Excellent
[02:34] <maximus2> ddddrrrrrrraaaaaaggggggoooonnnnnniiiiiiiiiissssssssiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | maximus2
[02:34] <xilux> erro
[02:34] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c well locally in the virtual box, i have /etc/hosts already set up but i want my local machine to hit the same url and get to the same files
[02:35] <xilux> error
[02:35] <pfifo> SnapSnap, pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l | grep ntp' if there is any output
[02:35] <ef5c_ef5c> Es0teric, ah; I see.  No, /etc/hosts will be consulted before a DNS for host to IP mappings, so can be used to override those.  But it's not used for port mappings
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> xentity1x: You mean in Unity?
[02:35] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c ah i see.. so then how can i "bridge" the hosts file from the virtualbox on my local machine?
[02:36] <xentity1x> i got it to work in unity
[02:36] <xentity1x> but i like using the gnome fallback
[02:36] <SnapSnap> pfifo, SonikkuAmerica, got it fixed. Thanks for your help. :)
[02:36] <ef5c_ef5c> Es0teric, you might be able to set up kind of port forwarding between 80 and 8080, but that's outside my knowledge
[02:36] <xentity1x> trying to get it to work with that as well, <SonikkuAmerica>
[02:36] <SonikkuAmerica> xentity1x: The workspaces should be there in gnome-panel... but it's deprecated.
[02:36] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c well i already have that... port 80 on my machine goes to 8080 on the virtual box
[02:39] <ef5c_ef5c> Es0teric, there is an /etc/services file that maps service names to ports, but it's probably not a good solution for you, because: a) it would only have any effect for apps which look up the port name based on the service name (i.e. not any that hard-code '80'), and b) it affects everything, not just a single destination host
[02:39] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c i see...
[02:41] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c nevermind... i guess i'll halt the vm because this is getting pointless... it feels like i should use the virtualbox for rails production and not PHP
[02:42] <tannji> if a program freezes, is there a command or key combo to kill it or get to a task manager?
[02:42] <ef5c_ef5c> Es0teric, sorry I couldn't help; good luck!
[02:42] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c its alright... i spent too much time on that vm anyways lol
[02:43] <deSouza> i need help
[02:43] <ef5c_ef5c> Es0teric, builds character :)
[02:43] <saiarcot895> tannji: I just click on the X to force-close it
[02:43] <Es0teric> ef5c_ef5c true.. also builds patience lol
[02:44] <tannji> its cold enough that the x doesnt work
[02:44] <pfifo> tannji, you can use 'sudo kill <pid>' or very carefully 'sudo killall <program name>' you can append a signal as well for example: 'sudo killall -9 bash' will send a sigkill to every instance of bash on your system
[02:44] <saiarcot895> tannji: If it's using the CPU, I open up terminal (Ctrl+Alt+A), start top, hit k, and type in the PID
[02:45] <Ben64> pfifo, tannji: sudo is not needed for kill unless its a root owned process
[02:45] <saiarcot895> !ask | deSouza
[02:46] <deSouza> I installed fedora and ubuntu in different partitions but I can only use ubuntu. What do I do?
[02:46] <tannji> I cant open a terminal tho...  mouse moves, nothing is clickable, ctrl+alt does nothing
[02:46] <Sazpaimon> well, I tried adding a keyfile to my LUKS partition and FreeOTFE still doesn't want to mount it
[02:46] <Sazpaimon> guess I have to give up
[02:46] <tannji> ctrl+alt+dlt?
[02:47] <pfifo> Ben64, good point, now I feel like a warmonger
[02:47] <maximus2> now that im here,my real nick name is poisioned-_-computer and im here to claim my revenge from being banned from being banned from god damn #linuxmint-chat and help so i want to be unbanned from those channels so i could get my friends back to chat with them!!!!
[02:47] <saiarcot895> tannji: that would open up the lock/log out menu
[02:47] <Ben64> tannji: what i find helpful... running an ssh server. a lot of times if the gui is non-responsive you still can get access via ssh
[02:48] <maximus2> and thats finial
[02:48] <saiarcot895> deSouza: does fedora appear in the list of OSes to boot in the GRUB boot menu?
[02:48] <Ben64> maximus2: not related to ubuntu support at all, take it somewhere else
[02:48] <zsugiart> hey guys
[02:48] <tannji> ok, barring a ssh server, log out then?  = )
[02:49] <Ben64> tannji: or ctrl+alt+f1
[02:49] <deSouza> the grub boot menu doesnt show up. But when I run the fedora liveos it shows that fedora is installed
[02:49] <zsugiart> anyone know how can I make ubuntu to prefer WLAn over LAN connection?
[02:49] <maximus2> i cant (crying)
[02:50] <Tony_Stark> zsugiart: You can make the lan not connect automatically in the networking settings.
[02:50] <pfifo> deSouza, add your fedora listing to '/etc/grub.d/40_custom' and then run 'sudo mkinitramfs'
[02:50] <Sazpaimon> you know it could very well be that freeotfe just does not support GPT partitions
[02:51] <pfifo> deSouza, sorry, not mkinitramfs, you need to run 'sudo update-grub'
[02:52]  * pfifo has livecds on his mind
[02:52] <zsugiart> Tony_Stark: I don't want to disable the LAN, I needed both as the LAN is connected to local resource, but connection from my pocket wifi is faster. So I'd like to tell it to PREFER the wlan, but still use lan for local resources. BUT, if my pocket wifi is off, then fallback to LAN connection
[02:53] <maximus2> i lost all of my friends at #linuxmint-chat and help (crying)and i wont get to see them again!!!!!!(crying)
[02:53] <Tony_Stark> zsugiart: I was suggesting allowing the lan not connect automatically, but once the wlan is done, you can still connect manually to the lan.
[02:53] <Ben64> maximus2: stop
[02:53] <zsugiart> Tony_Stark: oh, is this how ubuntu determine the order of priority of the 2? eg. if I connect on WLAN first, and THEN connect the LAN, will ubuntu then prioritize WLAN over LAN?
[02:54] <kkerwin> Hi. I seem to be having some difficulties with sound output on my Ubuntu laptop. I am attempting to locate the source of the problem, but nothing is showing up in dmesg.
[02:54] <zsugiart> OK ima give this a go
[02:55] <Tony_Stark> zsugiart: In my experience yes...but it requires the extra step of connecting to the second connection manually, but should the first go down...you will be connected to the 1st.
[02:56] <Tony_Stark> zsugiart: I ment should the 2nd go down, you are connected to the first.
[02:57] <maximus2> ben64:i lost all of my friends and i will never see them again at #linuxmint-chat and help (crying) and i am banned forever and dont tell me to stop(crying)
[02:58] <pfifo> zsugiart, you can see your default route with 'ip route show table main'
[02:58] <Ben64> maximus2: take it to ##ranting . this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY
[02:59] <zsugiart> Tony_Stark: nope that didn't work. Once I activated the LAN connection, it became the preferred route - tested this via traceroute. I retsarted the computer to make sure that config change is effected.
[02:59] <Ben64> zsugiart: you could probably add metrics to the adapters in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:59] <Ben64> zsugiart: lower = priority
[03:00] <zsugiart> Ben64: lemme check
[03:00] <maximus2> where is it ben64? i am running xchat gnome irc chat
[03:01] <Ben64> maximus2: /join ##ranting
[03:01] <maximus2> ok
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: lol I own that channel
[03:02] <halawany> please i need help with the aircrack-ng when i try to get the key it tells me Error message "fopen(dictionary)failed: No such file or directory"Error message "fopen(dictionary)failed: No such file or directory" so how can i specify the dictionary
[03:04] <zsugiart> Ben64: can't - is this because networkManager gets in the way? eg. do I need to somehow disable it first? my config don't seem to effect any changes. after changing the /interfaces file what do I do? 'service network restart' tells me network is not a recognized service
[03:05] <zsugiart> Ben64: I restarted it by using the network manager 'disable networking -> enable networking'
[03:06] <pfifo> zsugiart, it would be 'service nerworking restart'
[03:10] <mikubuntu> hmmmm ... just added lubuntu-desktop to mom's laptop, did all updates -- and added a bookmark to her yahoo mail -- yahoo mail will not display an email -- it displays the list of emails (inbox), but when you click on a particular email, it doesn't render
[03:10] <mikubuntu> ps... mail works properly in firefox, but not chromium
[03:11] <reisio> mikubuntu: which version of chromium?
[03:11] <mikubuntu> i asked for help in #lubuntu, but was referred to the main #ubuntu channel
[03:12] <mikubuntu> reisio ... not sure which version of chromium, how can i find out
[03:12] <mikubuntu> reisio ... i suppose it is the most current as i just did all updates on this machine (mom's laptop)
[03:13] <pfifo> mikubuntu, 'dpkg -l | grep chromium'
[03:16] <deSouza> how do I know if my ubuntu is 32 or 64 bit?
[03:16] <mikubuntu> reisio :: ii  chromium-browser   25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>    Chromium browser ii  chromium-browser-l10n   25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>   chromium-browser language packages ii  chromium-codecs-ffmpeg    25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>    Free ffmpeg codecs for the Chromium Browser
[03:17] <pfifo> deSouza, 'uname -a'
[03:17] <reisio> deSouza: uname -m
[03:17] <varunendra> deSouza, pfifo, even better - "arch"
[03:17] <pfifo> mikubuntu, your chromium is out of date
[03:17] <bigbob_> dang Im lost
[03:17] <deSouza> thanks
[03:18] <mikubuntu> pfifo, how can i update it?
[03:18] <ranjan> Hi all, is there anybody running ubuntu on a hp dv4. I am facing a lot of problem with switchable graphics, screen brightness etc
[03:18] <pfifo> varunendra, thank you, I learned something new today, it has been quite some time since I learned anything new in linux
[03:18] <varunendra> pfifo, you're welcome! :)
[03:19] <rodhash> Guys .. I've plugged in a USB disk with LVM ... I've deactivated the VG (vgchange -an) and unplugged it ... then I noticed lots of I/O erros ... what is wrong? any idea?
[03:19] <pfifo> mikubuntu, i usually run 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade chromium-browser'
[03:19] <reisio> yay, you learned a redundant command
[03:19] <reisio> that probably doesn't work on other Unixes
[03:20] <pfifo> ... and that ill never use cause I KNOW my computer and OS, but hey, knowledge is power
[03:20] <mikubuntu> pfifo -- so chromium is not updated regularly in *buntu updates?
[03:20] <reisio> :p
[03:20] <reisio> dpkg -L coreutils | grep bin
[03:20] <pfifo> mikubuntu, yes it is, but you have to actually upgrade your system
[03:20] <varunendra> reisio, I don't know if it works on others or not (I know lshw doesn't, but used it often) ;P
[03:22] <d1b> hi why isn't there a linux-image for saucy yet?
[03:22] <somsip> !13.10 | d1b
[03:22] <pfifo> You might be looking for 'linux-image-generic'
[03:23] <reisio> mikubuntu: you might see what getting the user agent switcher for chromium and setting it to some recent windows browser and reloading does
[03:23] <d1b> pfifo: already did
[03:23] <reisio> mikubuntu: would indicate yahoo mail is just incredibly poorly made
[03:23] <d1b> :-)
[03:23] <pfifo> !ping
[03:24] <bigbob_> pop
[03:24] <Equinox3> !nope
[03:25] <mikubuntu> pfifo, here's output from update -- can you tell me if its problematic?
[03:25] <mikubuntu> pfifo :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5848692/
[03:25] <pfifo> ubottu took forever, but she is saying linux-image exists in saucy, but anyway, I have no idea about saucy stuff, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:26] <pfifo> !eol | mikubuntu
[03:27] <dcraig> maybe this is a stupid question, but why are jaunty and lucid both in there?
[03:27] <varunendra> mikubuntu, those jaunty related repositories are obsolete now. What version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:28] <mikubuntu> pfifo, ok mail working now --- varunendra, not sure -- should i do a dist upgrade? and how?
[03:28] <varunendra> mikubuntu, what is the output of "lsb_release -d" ?
[03:29] <mikubuntu> varunendra :: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[03:30] <mikubuntu> varunendra -- so isn't Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS still supported another 3 years i thought?
[03:31] <pfifo> mikubuntu, only the server version of 10.04 is supported, you need to either try a 'sudo do-release-upgrade' or do a fresh install
[03:31] <varunendra> mikubuntu, desktop? That has reached its end of life too. You should do a fresh install of 12.04 or later now. Use torrent to download it : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[03:32] <pfifo> i need to sleep, good night all
[03:32] <varunendra> night !!
[03:33] <mikubuntu> varunendra --- i don't know how to back up, and there's so much stuff on here i hate to lose ... arrgh --- do you think upgrading would be problematic?
[03:33] <reisio> fresh install, ew
[03:33] <reisio> what is this Windows
[03:33] <varunendra> mikubuntu, you should try any version in Live mode first before upgrading. See if it plays well with your hardware, then install.
[03:34] <mikubuntu> reisio, thats what i said .... ewwwwww
[03:34] <varunendra> mikubuntu, also, if you are using PPAs or proprietary software on your current installation, then an upgrade will almost certainly be problematic.
[03:35] <mikubuntu> varunendra, whats the recommended update -- am i going to run into the 'pae' problem?
[03:36] <varunendra> mikubuntu, is your system 64 bit capable (arch command)
[03:36] <mikubuntu> varunendra: it has a sticker for an amd athlon 64 on it
[03:37] <rypervenche> That won't show arch compatibility.
[03:37] <mikubuntu> varunendra: but its several years old, maybe 5
[03:37] <varunendra> oh yeah,, forgot it.. sorry rypervenche mikubuntu
[03:38] <varunendra> mikubuntu, you need to lookup your CPU model to see if it is 64 bit
[03:38] <mikubuntu> varunendra: command line?
[03:39] <varunendra> mikubuntu, try "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model"
[03:39] <rypervenche> mikubuntu: egrep -o '\<lm\>' /proc/cpuinfo
[03:40] <rypervenche> mikubuntu: Do you see "lm" ?
[03:40] <varunendra> mikubuntu, in any case, I don't think the pae kernel is problematic anymore. But 64 bit is recommended if is supported
[03:41] <mikubuntu> rypervenche: lm comes up in red in the term
[03:41] <Vinnie_win> Is there a way to reorder the icons in the side bar?
[03:41] <reisio> click-and-drag?
[03:42] <VelesTheGod> you have to drag outside the side bar though
[03:42] <Vinnie_win> ahh...that was it
[03:42] <rypervenche> mikubuntu: You can install 64-bit then.
[03:43] <mikubuntu> rypervenche: i thought there were other considerations? memory, etc?
[03:43] <rypervenche> mikubuntu: Whether or not you should, that's a different question. But you can.
[03:44] <Vinnie_win> How do I find out the path to the "good" terminal (i.e. not xterm)
[03:44] <KriShaNsin> what is the the two Wine packages in the Ubuntu Soft Center? Do i need to install the meta package and the binary emulator both ?
[03:45] <varunendra> Vinnie_win, "which gnome-terminal"
[03:45] <Vinnie_win> varunendra: Thanks! Oh yes...that is the good one
[03:45] <varunendra> :)
[03:46] <reisio> KriShaNsin: two?
[03:46] <varunendra> KriShaNsin, just install the metapackage, that is -"wine"
[03:47] <thurstylark> I have ubuntu 12.10 in a VirtualBox VM on my iMac, and the graphics are extremely sluggish. What should I check? Also, are there non-free drivers that I need to look for?
[03:47] <Ben64> or get the ppa, which has a much newer version of wine
[03:47] <varunendra> unless you have also added the ppa for it ;) KriShaNsin
[03:47] <KriShaNsin> what is the one with the wine glass ? the binary emulator? i dont need that ? on ly the meta package ?
[03:48] <reisio> thurstylark: turn off the guest and change your settings
[03:48] <reisio> thurstylark: give it more ram, more processing, more graphics hardware access
[03:48] <histo> KriShaNsin: wine?
[03:48] <reisio> thurstylark: and install guest additions
[03:48] <varunendra> thurstylark, have you installed "Guest Additions" in the vm?
[03:48] <histo> KriShaNsin: what are you trying to get running?
[03:49] <KriShaNsin> histo: well, i miss a program for windows called "iFunbox" , it allows installation of .ipa files from desktop. i really want to install .ipa files to my iDevices using Ubuntu but I dont know how to Debian packager etc...
[03:50] <Sazpaimon> openntpd does not seem to be adjusting my clock, I was checking my log and see: Jul  6 03:42:44 ip-10-138-33-48 ntpd[24174]: adjusting local clock by -13.350968s Jul  6 03:47:07 ip-10-138-33-48 ntpd[24174]: adjusting local clock by -13.269553s
[03:51] <Sazpaimon> there's no way that my clock was 13 seconds off in a 5 minute span
[03:52] <thurstylark> reisio, varunendra: I do have guest additions installed, but my display memory is at like, 4MB, so I'll bump that up a bit...
[03:53] <mikubuntu> rypervenche: thx -- i think i will hold off -- i don't have any storage medium to save everything on this computer right now anyways -- i think i saw tiger has a 64gb usb for $20 right now, maybe i'll look into it
[03:53] <histo> KriShaNsin: you'd have to check the appdb for wine to see if iFunbox is something that runs okay  or not
[03:53] <rypervenche> mikubuntu: Up to you. Pae should be fine.
[03:53] <histo> !appdb | KriShaNsin
[03:53] <mikubuntu> thanx rypervenche pfifo reisio and varunendra for your most excellent assistance
[03:53] <varunendra> thurstylark, for 12.10, make it at least 64 MB or more..
[03:54] <histo> KriShaNsin: I would also look for open source alternatives on alternativeto.net website.
[03:54] <varunendra> mikubuntu, np :)
[03:54] <asgardBSD> My computer take a while to boot up, and then i am put in a console environment
[03:55] <histo> asgardBSD: are there any errors?
[03:55] <asgardBSD> how to know?
[03:55] <histo> asgardBSD: and has it ever worked previously?
[03:55] <asgardBSD> yes
[03:55] <histo> asgardBSD: check your /var/log/syslog to see what's going on during boot
[03:55] <asgardBSD> i just restarted it 1 hours ago
[03:55] <thurstylark> varunendra: Sounds good. What does 13.04 need? I plan to upgrade
[03:55] <Ari-Yang> what do you mean by "need", thurstylark?
[03:55] <histo> asgardBSD: did you have proprietary video drivers installed?
[03:56] <varunendra> thurstylark, more advanced graphics = more video memory. I'd recommend 256 MB :)
[03:56] <asgardBSD> yes, NVIDIA
[03:57] <histo> asgardBSD: were you using the drivers from nvidia.com?
[03:57] <thurstylark> varunendra: Cool beans. Thanks!
[03:57] <asgardBSD> yes
[03:57] <asgardBSD> i needed more up to date driver
[03:57] <KriShaNsin> histo: ok so, apparently there is no need for a app like iFunbox on Ubuntu/ I am missing something. there is another way obviously to install .ipa files to iDevices using debian somehow. anyway thanks.
[03:57] <asgardBSD> failed to start X server
[03:57] <Ari-Yang> asgardBSD, personally I wouldn't trust drivers from the site
[03:57] <asgardBSD> starting failsafe X server
[03:58] <Ari-Yang> I'd use the ones in ubuntu's repos
[03:58] <histo> asgardBSD: It's possible that your kernel updated and the modules installed from nvidia.com are not there for your current kenrel. So you need to reinstall those drivers to rebuild the module
[03:58] <asgardBSD> cannote execute /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer no such file or directory
[03:58] <varunendra> thurstylark, beans??
[03:58] <histo> asgardBSD: This is why you use drivers from the repos as the modules will be rebuilt with each new kernel vs. using a 3rd party solution.
[03:58] <Sazpaimon> anyone know? I'd like to get ntpd working on my server but its kinda useless if it wont actually adjust the clock
[03:59] <histo> Sazpaimon: if you install ntpd it should be updating the clock
[04:00] <asgardBSD> i just rerun my driver installer
[04:00] <Sazpaimon> histo, I agree
[04:00] <asgardBSD> I had to get up to date driver... had a GTX 660 ti
[04:00] <asgardBSD> thats still pretty recent (less than one year ago)
[04:01] <thurstylark> varunendra: as opposed to hot beans. because i let them cool.  ...*noms*
[04:01] <asgardBSD> and that distro date from december
[04:01] <asgardBSD> Mint 15
[04:01] <Sazpaimon> except it's not, it's logging the fact that the clock is skewed, but not actually adjusting the clock
[04:01] <Sazpaimon> I see this in my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:01] <Sazpaimon> there's no way my clock is 13 seconds off in a 5 minute span
[04:01] <varunendra> thurstylark, good practice ;)
[04:01] <rypervenche> OMG
[04:01] <rypervenche> THAT SCARED ME SO BADLY!
[04:01] <histo> asgardBSD: this is not mint support btw
[04:02] <rypervenche> Huge creeper in Zelda Solarus XD
[04:02] <Sazpaimon> I also tested by doing while true; do date; sleep 1; done, and looking to see if the time changes, and it doesn't
[04:02] <asgardBSD> but anyway, next version of Mint (or Ubuntu, still dont know what i will install), will have better driver from the distro
[04:02] <rypervenche> Oops, sorry, wrong channel.
[04:02] <asgardBSD> rypervenche:  hi
[04:02] <Sazpaimon> sorry, this is my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5848764/
[04:04] <histo> !info nvidia-current | asgardBSD
[04:04] <asgardBSD> like i said still dont know what i will install, ubunto or mint, since i see no difference between the two (except the desktop installed), been few month i use mint, and i didnt really saw those minty goody everyone is talking about that is supposed to enhence our experience
[04:04] <histo> asgardBSD: most people use mint for the cinnamon desktop and the mp3 flash out of the box
[04:05] <asgardBSD> mp3 out of the box?? Ubuntu also had that last time i used it... a checkbox during installation for restricted software
[04:05] <asgardBSD> I liked cinamon, but prefer KDE and gnome 2 over it
[04:05] <histo> asgardBSD: I've recommended mint to people who have not used linux before as it's an easier transition from windows to cinnamon vs. unity
[04:05] <asgardBSD> and cinamon was buggy
[04:06] <asgardBSD> well, thats been a while i am on linux (since 2-3 year)
[04:06] <asgardBSD> The easier of the distro i tried was debian, from the install it was exactly how i wanteed it
[04:06] <b80905> help me   i have installed lxde and now i can't change brightness.
[04:06] <asgardBSD> unfortunately, with old package
[04:07] <holstein> b80905: but, you can in other desktop environments?
[04:07] <histo> b80905: is this a laptop? have you tried the Fn keys for brightness?
[04:07] <asgardBSD> its true that with unity, if we dont already know the name of the program we want to start, we are screwed
[04:08] <histo> asgardBSD: No there is a dash
[04:08] <holstein> asgardBSD: thats actually a checkbox during install for the fluendo codec.. which is not "restricted" necessarily.. AFAIK, fluendo pays for that for ubuntu, or someone does
[04:08] <histo> asgardBSD: Although how would you not know the name of an application you installed
[04:09] <holstein> its not "open", thats for sure
[04:09] <asgardBSD> histo default application installed with the system
[04:09] <asgardBSD> holstein: then what does mint use for mp3?
[04:09] <histo> asgardBSD: I can scroll through the apps in the dash just fine on my ubuntu box.
[04:10] <holstein> asgardBSD: not sure.. could be the same.. but i think its just the "good, bad and ugly" or whatever
[04:10] <histo> holstein: gstreamer
[04:10] <holstein> asgardBSD: i agree with histo .. i think its gstreamer they ship
[04:11] <asgardBSD> Anyways, the only reason why i run mint at the moment is because at the time i installed it, kubuntu didnt worked well (it had a bug that whenever i had lot of disk write, the system would hang up completely) and mint 15 kde didnt had that bug
[04:11] <asgardBSD> for example, copying a 15 GB file would make my whole system screw up
[04:12] <asgardBSD> irc would disconnect from internet
[04:12] <asgardBSD> all slow, even my mouse pointer was moving slow
[04:12] <rodhash> What is the correct procedure to UNPLUG a usb disk with LVM pls?
[04:13] <asgardBSD> because of that bug, was banned temporary from some IRC channel (connecting, disconnecting, connecting, disconnecting......)
[04:13] <reisio> rodhash: a usb disk with lvm?
[04:13] <reisio> rodhash: as in it's part of an lv with other disks?
[04:13] <asgardBSD> But i dont know WHY mint didnt had that bug while kubuntu had it... dosent both are built on the same package?
[04:14] <rodhash> reisio, Yes .. I've just plugged in a USB disk with LVM (my older HD) in order to copy some data .. now I need to UNPLUG this disk.
[04:14] <holstein> asgardBSD: sounds like different versions to me
[04:14] <reisio> asgardBSD: they aren't 100% the same, that's enough for a bug
[04:14] <reisio> rodhash: ah, that's something else
[04:14] <reisio> rodhash: umount it to be nice (or right-click eject or something from the file manager)
[04:14] <histo> rodhash: if you sync and umount would be good
[04:14] <reisio> rodhash: but just taking it out should also be fine most of the time
[04:14] <asgardBSD> was only happening when i doing massive disk access/write from KDE, from console was fine
[04:15] <asgardBSD> strangely, other people from #kubuntu didnt had that bug
[04:15] <tking> I can't seem to open this file correctly, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46512205/L6_ITCI_G2_670.doc    normally, it should contain complete data but some stuffs are missing, if you could please try to open it and tell me how you did it i would be very greatful. I do not have windows at all
[04:15] <rodhash> reisio, Yes I tried .. I umounted the LVs and tried to deactivate the VG (vgchange -an) .. but then I received a LOT of "I/O  error"  :/
[04:16] <holstein> tking: what are you using? openoffice?
[04:16] <reisio> rodhash: and?
[04:16] <rodhash> reisio, sorry... I meant, the error came after unplugging the disk
[04:16] <tking> holstein, am using libreoffice
[04:16] <reisio> rodhash: and?
[04:17] <rodhash> reisio, well that's what I'm trying to understand ... something is wrong with this procedure
[04:17] <holstein> tking: whats the result?
[04:17] <reisio> rodhash: mmm, if you did it again with different hardware I might support that conclusion
[04:17] <varunendra> tking, it's an office 2007 format. Change the extension name to "docx"
[04:18] <holstein> tking: libre says its corrupt
[04:18] <reisio> could be that your usb stick is just falling apart, as they do from time to time
[04:18] <holstein> varunendra: is that all? thats easy :)
[04:18] <varunendra> holstein, a shot in the dark XD
[04:18] <asgardBSD> Last time i tried Unity was with 11.04, how it changed?
[04:18] <tking> holstein, its a timetable with data in a table. my friends view theirs correctly on windows. but on my linux the table and text within table is missing
[04:18] <histo> asgardBSD: quite a bit
[04:18] <holstein> varunendra: yup.. popped right up.. good job!
[04:19] <tking> varunendra, i have renamed to "docx"othing changed
[04:19] <varunendra> tking, I can open it fine here.. with the ext. changed.
[04:19] <holstein> tking: it works for me as varunendra suggested...
[04:19] <holstein> tking: it changed for me... opened right up
[04:19] <varunendra> tking, only the extension - from .doc, to .docx
[04:20] <tking> varunendra, it opens, what is in front of 9:00
[04:20] <varunendra> tking, 3 hrs.
[04:21] <tking> varunendra, it should be   | 9:00 | Programming Lecture | 3hrs|
[04:21] <holstein> tking: you should be able to edit it
[04:22] <varunendra> tking, that's what I got, no details in-between. holstein should be able to confirm..
[04:23] <histo> varunendra: extension shouldn't matter
[04:24] <varunendra> histo, I agree, not sure why it showed error.
[04:24] <holstein> histo: try it... it failed with an error as *doc ... opened right up as docx
[04:24] <histo> varunendra: holstein what does 'file whatever.doc'  show for output?
[04:24] <histo> That shouldn't change based on filename... Unless libre office is retarded
[04:25] <varunendra> maybe libreoffice handles files differently than rest of the linux world? or just these files ??
[04:27] <derp> How can i make Ubuntu behave like OS X task bar?
[04:28] <holstein> derp: be specific.. what do you want from what?
[04:28] <derp> like bouncing icons and the genie effect
[04:28] <varunendra> derp, install cairo-dock
[04:28] <derp> thanks.
[04:28] <xangua> derp: you can configure the minimize efects with Compiz Settings Manager
[04:28] <derp> brb
[04:29] <varunendra> histo, missed your question (although doesn't matter now). The command returns "Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract" with both doc and docx
[04:29] <histo> varunendra: yeah libre office must be putting weight on the filename for some reason....
[04:36] <tking> varunendra,  this is what i mean in both links, holstein Linux: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46512205/linux.png, Windows: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46512205/windows.png
[04:37] <holstein> tking: its not a "linux/windows" thing.. thats word and libreoffice
[04:37] <reisio> and at a higher level, your educational people being daft
[04:37] <holstein> tking: show the document creator that, and suggest they be more open for the software you are running
[04:38] <penos> is ubuntu same as android?
[04:39] <reisio> penos: heheh
[04:48] <VelesTheGod_> anyone knows any cool software for the terminal? i have cowsay but i wanna know if I'm missing on something totally radical
[04:49] <histo> VelesTheGod_: cmatrix
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> VelesTheGod_: what kind of stuff you looking for
[04:49] <holstein> VelesTheGod_: im using irssi in screen right now.. there are curses games..
[04:49] <histo> Doesn't aptitude still ahve minesweeper?
[04:49] <VelesTheGod_> nothing in particular, I had archey for ubuntu for a while but i didn't like it
[04:49] <VelesTheGod_> what does cmatrix do?
[04:49] <holstein> !info figlet
[04:50] <holstein> ^^ thats kind of fun
[04:50] <holstein> !info cmatrix
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> holstein: is that inside the terminal
[04:51] <holstein> lotuspsychje: figlet? yes.. i think thats what VelesTheGod_ is looking for.. cli apps
[04:51] <VelesTheGod_> i'll try out cmatrx
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> holstein: no cmatrix
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> gonna test that 1 out aswell
[04:51] <holstein> lotuspsychje: that was histo 's suggestion ..i havent tried it
[04:52] <VelesTheGod_> I'm bored so I'll try all three of them, cmatrix, figlet and irsii
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> histo: tnx for tip mate
[04:53] <histo> np
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> VelesTheGod_: http://parveenmeet.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/fun-with-ubuntu-terminal/
[04:55] <VelesTheGod_> lotuspsychje looks interesting, i'll check it out
[04:56] <VelesTheGod_> i just got done configuring cowsay
[04:56] <VelesTheGod_> it's a blast
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> VelesTheGod_: http://smashingtips.com/linux/cool-terminal-commands-for-linux
[04:57] <histo> VelesTheGod_: espeak ... mplayer can play videos on frame buffer.  Also there are web browsers like w3m etc... cli-apps.org  is worth a look.
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> !info links2 | VelesTheGod_
[04:58] <VelesTheGod_> lotuspychje the second linkg you send me was ok
[04:58] <VelesTheGod_> I don't really like the graphics and it's not minimal
[04:59] <sdf555555> Is  there a reason why 13.04 is completely unstable? I know it isn't suppose to be a stable release, but their were a ton of problems on both my desktop/laptop, using standard hardware w/ intel graphics
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: 13.04 isnt unstable at all
[04:59] <ahow628> Where would be a good place to put this information: Ubuntu 12.04.2 live cd works on a CR-48, but the install breaks trackpad, X, and wireless. Instead, install 12.04.0  and it works flawlessly.
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: did you check hardware requierments before installing?
[05:00] <sdf555555> well random crashes+ other stuff, that happen to me would say otherwise
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: did you clean install or upgrade?
[05:01] <sdf555555> clean install on both desktop+laptop
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: updated you system and checked additional drivers?
[05:02] <sdf555555> I do really like unity7 on it verses the older one, but it kept causing problems to the point I just reinstalled LTS
[05:02] <sdf555555> yea, I did updates on them
[05:02] <Ari-Yang> if you can run ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, I think you can run 13.04 just fine....
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: any logs we can troubleshoot errors from?
[05:03] <sdf555555> and drivers, I won't go into details of the problems, but just want to know if its common for other users of 13.04 having issues
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: im running 13.04 64bit without any error mate
[05:03] <Ari-Yang> sdf555555, not, not really common I'd say...
[05:03] <varunendra> ahow628, are you seeking help with that or just want to share that info?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | sdf555555
[05:04] <sdf555555> IRan on my desktop, i5 2300, 6GB ram, 64GB ssd, intel 2000 gpu, and laptop was an dell xps 13 running i5 sandy bridge, don't know the model name off hand, but with 4gb of ram, and 128gb ssd, with intel 300 gpu
[05:04] <ahow628> varunendra: I was in here earlier because I was installing 12.04.2 on my Chromebook and it would break wireless, X, and trackpad. So then I tried installing 12.04.0 and it worked properly.
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: what kind of errors are we talking about then?
[05:05] <sdf555555> everything worked out of the box prefectly, but issues with updates, and lock screens, and other bits after running for a week just made be rage to the point of reinstall LTS on them
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: lock screen in what way? define 'issues'
[05:06] <varunendra> ahow628, you may put that info in one of the stickys in Ubuntu Forums here : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332 Can't say if there is a better wiki page for all that info combined.
[05:06] <holstein> sdf555555: interesting..
[05:06] <sdf555555> random shutdowns on my laptop, eating battery life on the laptop, lock screen problems on both desktop and laptop, at one point it would want to upgrade on my desktop, and other small stuff that I can't remember
[05:07] <sdf555555> wouldn't upgrade*
[05:07] <ahow628> varunendra: Thanks. I'll post it.
[05:07] <varunendra> ahow628, np :)
[05:07] <sdf555555> Once at the lock screen, if I enter the password, then enter, it would go to a black screen
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> sdf555555, tbh if you really wanted someone to tell you what the problem could have been, you would've saved log files.
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> there really is no point in talking about it now
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> unless you're going to reinstall 13.04 now and would like support....
[05:08] <sdf555555> And, the ubuntu system thing, where it says an error has happen would come up about 20times a day
[05:08] <Phyiis> Greetings. I'd like to know.. What is the possibility I became a sad guy, if i uninst ATI driver and manage my power only with jupiter?
[05:08] <sdf555555> and I would submit that error, so the devs would get a look at it
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: conclusion is like Ari-Yang says, 13.04 isnt unstable we might have solved it for you
[05:09] <ahow628> varunendra: Should I post in the compatibility sticky (12.04.0 works) or the incompatibility (12.04.2 doesn't work) or both?
[05:09] <sdf555555> At least 20times a day it would come up "Ubuntu has incountered an error" which was annoying that many times
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: errors are there to be solved
[05:09] <Phyiis> Fellas?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Phyiis
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> sdf555555, okay, that's enough now. We understand it didn't work out for you. I think it's time to move on...
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> Phyiis, you should be able to, I don't see why not
[05:10] <varunendra> ahow628, both look okay, I'd suggest the incompatibility one, then add your solution at the bottom of your post.
[05:10] <holstein> Phyiis: try it.. jupiter is not supported anymore AFAIK, though.. the driver idea might help.. might not
[05:10] <ahow628> varunendra: Thanks.
[05:11] <sdf555555> However, I still have 13.04 on my desktop, what log files should I be pulling out for you guys to take a look at?
[05:11] <Phyiis> I'm not satisfied with the quality of the drivers available. My HP Notebook is much better without it.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> holstein: uninstalling gnome-screensaver fixed my issue last time tnx again mate!
[05:12] <holstein> lotuspsychje: sure. no worries :)
[05:12] <Phyiis> Thproblem is that the power consume is very high.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> holstein: xscreensaver asked to launch deamon and end of story :p
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> Phyiis, imo the radeon open source drivers are far better. fglrx has horrible 2d acceleration.... you'd only use fglrx really for gaming.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: /var/log/syslog.1
[05:13] <sdf555555> I'll get them up on plaste bin and link you guys
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: or any logs at /var/log that could be relevant for your errors
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> Phyiis, but the open source drivers do run laptops hot, for now anyway. They released patches for dynamic power management (I'm currently using that kernel and it works just fine). http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM5NjE
[05:14] <Ari-Yang> Phyiis, if you want you can simply install http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/ and get the appropriate firmware for your gpu (if it's apu you don't need one) and you'll be good to go.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: but remember 13.04 is not lts
[05:15] <Phyiis> Ari-Yang: I already tried every drivers. When I'm watching in VLC, the videos is divided by two pieces.. horrible.. anyway, I'm going to try it.
[05:16] <Ari-Yang> Phyiis, what card do you have? and it sounds like you have video tearing....
[05:16] <Ari-Yang> Phyiis, I got nothing but tearing when I tried fglrx, you're better off with the open source drivers...
[05:17] <Phyiis> Ari-Yang: Radeon 6600G A8-3500 APU
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> ah, Phyiis so you're going to try what exactly?
[05:17] <sdf555555> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/k5cwqH8y
[05:18] <Phyiis> Ari-Yang: I'm going to remove everything. I'll use only jupiter control the power consume.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: is that on your current system or your 13.04?
[05:19] <sdf555555> thats my desktop with 13.04
[05:19] <sdf555555> havn't change that one over yet
[05:19] <Ari-Yang> Phyiis, okay, good luck. if the radeon open source drivers are running your laptop/netbook hot, you can always try out the 3.10 drm-next kernel.
[05:20] <cfhowlett2> y
[05:20] <Phyiis> Ari-Yang: Ok. Just experimentally..... Thank youI will see the links later.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: i dont see anything very unusual at first...
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: did you install your ssd yourself?
[05:22] <sdf555555> Yes, I built that desktop
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: are you sure your hardware is connected properly and bios configged right?
[05:23] <sdf555555> Its a foxxcon motherboard i5 2300, 64gb curical ssd, 1tb hdd [forgot brand]
[05:23] <sdf555555> ssd is running in achi mode from the bios
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:24] <sdf555555> I'm pretty sure its all connected correctly
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: i use 13.04 64bit on ssd without any issue, you need to find the proper errors mate
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: so we can help you on it
[05:25] <sdf555555> I've done system building for a while now, a+ cert & network cerf, but by no means does that mean I couldn't have something messed up
[05:25] <sdf555555> but it ran fine with last OSes I've used in the past such as linux mint 13
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: lets stick to the ubuntu support
[05:26] <sdf555555> Its a few year old system, but the last OSes, its ran perfectly fine, thats just for references that its been stable in the past without problems, just with 13.04 for some reason
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: i had one box on ubuntu, that freezed on me with 1TB disk as slave
[05:27] <sdf555555> Yea, it has a 1tb disk in that system for storage
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: had to plug it out and single ssd
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: but i suggest you track down whats really happening with your system and let us know
[05:28] <sdf555555> The 64gb curical ssd [M4] is on the only sate3 port, and the hdd is on a sata 2 port, with no cd or other hard drives
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: check ##hardware aswell for your device problems
[05:29] <sdf555555> The hdd is M$ [ntfs?] formated, just for infomation
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: you told us you had several errors a day lets focus on those
[05:30] <sdf555555> ##hardware?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: ##hardware channel to discuss hardware issues yes
[05:37] <sdf555555> lotuspsychje: doesn't seem anyone currently is in there to help out, but your saying that it could be the hdd [or ssd] causing these issues? Also did you notice any noticable issues in my syslog1?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> sdf555555: didnt see anything suspicious in syslog at first, best way is to run your desktop 13.04 for some time and solve problem by problem
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> have to bbl
[05:46] <sdf555555> dpkg: warning: ignoring pre-dependency problem! ; reason for this?
[05:49] <sdf555555> lotuspsychje: also I forgot to mention, few days ago, the system would not boot up into ubuntu, it said to go into recovery mode or something, but wouldn't boot up into that, I plan on reinstall 12.04 on it, but didn't have time, rebooted a cuple of times that day, and it still had that issuse, then two days later I boot the system up and it booted up fine
[05:50] <holstein> sdf555555: sounds like you have some hardare specific issues with support for that device
[05:50] <holstein> sdf555555: what kernel was chrome using?
[05:50] <sdf555555> no idea
[05:51] <holstein> sdf555555: i think it would be worth looking into what the kernel that was designed to support that hardware is doing
[05:51] <holstein> sdf555555: im not sure on why you bought a chrome-book to run ubuntu, other that the price.. and i can imagine your frustration.. but, there might be some "magic" in that kernel verion that would really help you
[05:52] <sdf555555> I'm not using a chrome-book, I'm running an i5 2300, 6GB ram intel 2000 64gb ssd system
[05:54] <sdf555555> holstein:  also I wouldn't even buy a pos chromebook, however I did receive one from google, the cr-48 dev's chromebook when they where giving them to 'testers'
[05:54] <holstein> sdf555555: so, what is the issue?
[05:54] <holstein> what are you trying to install that gives that error?
[05:57] <sdf555555> Not trying to install anything, Stating that my desktop running 13.04 64bit is having a bunch of issues, mainly three issues, one being a lock screen that doesn't work and goes to a black page, the other having the ubuntu has an error window pop-up a number of times a day under normal usage, and the last, of where the system would not boot into ubuntu, and wanted to go into recovery mode [i believe] but wouldn't boot into that, rebo
[05:57] <sdf555555> wouldn't boot into ubuntu, and then a few days later I decide to turn on the system, and it magically booted into ubuntu without problem
[05:58] <holstein> what would i do? test the hardware.. test the memory, and hard drive.. look for and apply all upgrades.. try and reproduce these errors from a live CD
[05:59] <holstein> sdf555555: test whatever live CD you want to use before installing to be sure hardware support is there
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> sdf555555, Have you checked the poups as to maybe installed apps, or 3rd parties, and have you modified grub?
[05:59] <holstein> sdf555555: the "magically booted" sounds like something a failing hard drive would do
[06:00] <sdf555555> It would boot up into the grub recovery window, but wouldn't boot into ubuntu, but a few days later it did for some reason
[06:00] <holstein> sdf555555: sure, im not doubting you.. im proposing the reason is failing hard ware
[06:01] <sdf555555> Also, its an SSD, so it could be dying?
[06:01] <St1gma> I would probably check SMART output
[06:01] <holstein> sdf555555: thats what im proposing it wouldnt be a waste of time confirming
[06:01] <holstein> sdf555555: also, memory issues can just cause all kinds of "funkiness"
[06:01] <St1gma> Oh ssd...
[06:01] <holstein> sdf555555: if you are asking "do you all use 13.04 and it acts like this?"... of course not
[06:02] <sdf555555> Its a Curical M4 64GB SSD, and they had reports of those SSDs failing, but when I check, might had the new rev on it/bios/firmware on it where they weren't the ones to fail
[06:02] <sdf555555> mine had*
[06:02] <holstein> sdf555555: you either have *drastic* hardware incompatibities to work around or failing hardware in my opinion
[06:03] <St1gma> I have had no problems like that on my installations... And I'm running on an ssd
[06:03] <holstein> sdf555555: *all* drives fail.. im not saying yours has failed.. im just saying it wont hurt to test
[06:03] <sdf555555> I can use mem84 test for the ram, what could I use for the ssd?
[06:04] <holstein> sdf555555: i usually remove what i can from the equation.. trying to replicate from a live CD was a suggestion i gave above, and here for that
[06:04] <holstein> http://blogs.nologin.es/slopez/archives/33-Checking-the-health-of-your-SSD-from-GNULinux.html myabe
[06:04] <holstein> maybe* .. i dont have an ssh to try this on
[06:05] <izx> How do i resolve this error? >> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? ??
[06:06] <holstein> sdf555555: try and think of what the constants are in the scenario.. the internet that downloaded the iso. the USB stick that had the iso that installed the os's.. the user setup and config.. etc
[06:06] <holstein> izx: is another process using it? if so, close it.. if you have 2 package managers open, for example
[06:06] <sdf555555> I will say this holstein, I use to run linux mint on this box before, and would have random power-offs, mainly once a 13hour day, or on some days; a few times a day, however with ubuntu I havn't had that problem
[06:07] <holstein> sdf555555: unless you are comparing ubuntu with the mint version that is the same, that could be due to version changes
[06:07] <sdf555555> but I guess that could be a funny way of showing a dying ssd or maybe even a motherboard [back when I was running mint on it, I did rule out the powersupply being the problem]
[06:07] <holstein> sdf555555: that could have been, you had ubuntu 11.10, and the ubntu 12.04 based mint, and mint was fine.. and the ubuntu 12.04 would have been fine as well
[06:08] <holstein> sdf555555: so, unless you have those version #'s, that example is not relevant
[06:08] <sdf555555> it was mint 13, ubuntu, not the debain one
[06:08] <holstein> sdf555555: overheating is typically what causes what you are describing
[06:08] <theadmin> Hm. sdf555555, another reason Ubuntu may fail is due to graphic cards. Ubuntu is heavy on 3D nowadays, which is pretty but...
[06:08] <holstein> sdf555555: i *never* said "debian"
[06:09] <sdf555555> its watered cooled, running at around 35C stable all the time
[06:09] <theadmin> Oooh
[06:09] <holstein> sdf555555: if it were stable, we wouldnt be talking...
[06:09] <holstein> sdf555555: im just saying "typically".. and in mint, that kernel could have supported the hardware better
[06:10] <qin> Why software center want me to "Buy" steam?
[06:10] <holstein> sdf555555: could have been that ubuntu was a different version, as i said, and that the same ubuntu base that mint was utilizing would have produced the same result
[06:10] <holstein> !steam | qin
[06:10] <sdf555555> theadmin: I'm using intel 2000 gpu off of the i5 2300
[06:11] <theadmin> sdf555555: Hm. I think I have the same one (although I also have a nVIDIA one and I have no idea which one is actually in use)
[06:13] <sdf555555> okay, well thanks everyone, guess its time for ruling out hardware causing the problems
[06:14] <holstein> sdf555555: likely, its past time for that.. good luck, and let the volunteers here know how you are getting along with it..
[06:15] <theadmin> qin: Third-party software is like that. If a separate repo requires enabling, it will show "Buy...", I'm quite sure that's a bug.
[06:15] <theadmin> qin: Probably being worked on, you won't be charged, don't worry. It will ask you to sign in with your Ubuntu One account, though.
[06:15] <sdf555555> holstein: I had a hard time believing it to be a hardware issue, since on 12.04 it was stable, however it does appear to me that it could be hardware related
[06:17] <Guest38915> I have ubuntu server 12.04, just installed it and i want to install samba, it got messed up from an update i think. But i can't get samba working again. I had it so no one needed too login to it but i can't get that again with 3.6.3
[06:18] <qin> theadmin: it's more about ubuntuone account requirment.
[06:18] <theadmin> qin: Yeah, well, again, third-party software (like those submitted to the Software Center by other developers, not the Ubuntu team) require an account, currently.
[06:18] <KidBeta> would this be a okay challenege to ask about Make or is there a better place
[06:19] <KidBeta> place
[06:19] <david1> I have ubuntu server 12.04, just installed it and i want to install samba, it got messed up from an update i think. But i can't get samba working again. I had it so no one needed too login to it but i can't get that again with 3.6.3
[06:19] <KidBeta> okay place
[06:19] <thomasd> Hi there
[06:20] <thomasd> is there someone how can help me with my modem/router configuration.
[06:21] <varunendra> thomasd, if it is Ubuntu related..
[06:22] <thomasd> varunendra, it is not ubuntu related, but it is some general knowledge about networking that I am lacking.
[06:23] <trueneu> thomasd, probably you want to ask it in ##networking then.
[06:23] <thomasd> but I am runing ubuntu powered compters behind this router if that matters :-)
[06:23] <varunendra> thomasd, you should try #hardware or ##networking then
[06:23] <varunendra> ^^
[06:24] <w30>  /part
[06:25] <qin> theadmin: Thank you. :( (does steam know now my ubuntuone email?)
[06:26] <theadmin> qin: No, it's not passed anywhere outside of Canonical's internal infrastructure, only the Ubuntu One services know about it
[06:26] <iheartxan> hi
[06:26] <qin> theadmin: That's uplifting ;)
[06:41] <netlar> Anyone else have the system hang when shutting down computer when there are more than one persong logged in?
[06:41] <netlar> person*
[06:48] <coka> list
[06:49] <coka> I'm lost I just got a webtv and I can't find chat.talkcity.com
[06:50] <serialquestioner> hello! is there anybody out there?
[06:50] <coka> anyone know how to hook a webtv up to Talkcity
[06:50] <serialquestioner> need some really easy help
[06:51] <nipar> Anyone up for helping me through installing a Radeon HD 4xxx on Ubuntu 12.04? been struggling all morning, and im not getting anywhere.
[06:51] <serialquestioner> well not for me cause i'm a faggot chicken
[06:51] <serialquestioner> well i got some problem to run qbittorrent..for some weird reasons it doesn't want to run
[06:52] <serialquestioner> i tried to restart but still got the same problem..i hope there are no errors in that and/or there is no script blocking it.
[06:53] <bazhang> !language | serialquestioner
[06:53] <ncdmr> anyone else having an issue adding ppa's?  I get tracebacks of what looks like ssl errors
[06:55] <coka> close
[06:56] <serialquestioner> bazhang i think telling i am a chicken is not so offending...maybe telling about myself that i'm a f****t one is not so polite..but it's not my fault if i born that way...anyway you know chickens are not usually so professional animals,except for doing eggs..in that situation they are second only to dinosaurs.
[06:57] <serialquestioner> well i'm sorry..but i still got same problem i need to solve..and i'm here hoping in some help.
[06:57] <export> wait wat was the problem?
[06:59] <serialquestioner> got problems running qbittorent...it doesn't want to run,i tried to reinstall it but still doesn't work..and i'm not so experienced on those things so..
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: did you try to run it from terminal?
[07:01] <serialquestioner> symbol lookup error: qbittorrent: undefined symbol: _ZN10libtorrent7sessionC1ERKNS_11fingerprintEii
[07:02] <serialquestioner> sorry for not using pastebin but really short line
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: you can also search existing bugs here: https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues
[07:03] <serialquestioner> Couldn't set environment variable...
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: what ubuntu version are you on mate?
[07:05] <nipar> Not sure if learning to make ubuntu work requires more reading than actually learning to read
[07:06] <nipar> and there went the keyboard support! 3rd reinstall this morning :)
[07:07] <beyondcr> Hello I am using ubuntu 13.04 and I was wondering if there was a way to keep the window controls always visible
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> nipar: plz stick to ubuntu support questions
[07:07] <serialquestioner> 12.04 «precise pargolin»
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: found some thread with sortlike issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1749867
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> beyondcr: maybe unity-tweak-tool can solve such things
[07:09] <serialquestioner> oh my hero <3
[07:09] <souravaj> whats the use of ls command
[07:09] <souravaj> !ls
[07:09] <export> type 'man ls' :)
[07:10] <souravaj> !man
[07:10] <beyondcr> lotuspsychje, I was looking around in the unity-tweak-tool, and I did not come across anything yet although that is a must have tool
[07:10] <nipar> lotuspsychje, pointing out to people to stick to support questions is not in itself sticking to support questions either, so you're just as guilty as me! Also, im ending this line with a support question to justify it: Does anyone know how to get a Radeon HD 4xxx card working on ubuntu any version >= 12.04?
[07:10] <souravaj> !cp
[07:10] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > souravaj
[07:11] <souravaj> !copy
[07:11] <kit-kat1> hi all i got the below error while compiling the bluez-utils-3.36 http://pastebin.com/CRFh0Db4 can you tell me any solution or any  patches
[07:11] <beyondcr> a friend of mine is freaking out because the close buttons went away when he full screens it I told him to just get use to it
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52498/openshot-and-qbittorrent-quits-after-after-being-launched
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> beyondcr: i think your friend will have to deal with unity changes, even with min/max buttons visible you still need to go ontop for options
[07:12] <bazhang> beyondcr, on unity or gnome-shell
[07:13] <beyondcr> Yhea plus if they were always visible some info would be missing like the apps title.
[07:15] <beyondcr> but it would be nice to have a option to keep them always visible but you would loose the programs title
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> beyondcr: you can maximize so you still see the min/max buttons, bu that about does it
[07:15] <bazhang> beyondcr, care to answer my question?
[07:15] <beyondcr> his main thing was they are not visible till you mouse over
[07:16] <beyondcr> bazhang, unity
[07:16] <export> why not just change the desktop environment? :P
[07:16] <bazhang> thats unity then
[07:16] <bazhang> try the unity tweak tool
[07:16] <beyondcr> sorry I thought you were saying its the same way on both
[07:16] <beyondcr> lol
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> beyonddr: like export says you could install gnome fallback for your friend
[07:17] <export> or possibly cinnamon ;D
[07:17] <export> lol mate is nice too :)
[07:17] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool | beyondcr give this a try
[07:17] <export> the world is full of choice and thats why linux is great!! ;)
[07:17] <ReiXor> agreed
[07:17] <serialquestioner> lotuspsyche so i have to type command: sudo aptitude purge qbittorrent ???
[07:18] <beyondcr> bazhang, I am in unity-tweak-tool but I seen no options to keep them always visible
[07:18] <bazhang> !aptitude > serialquestioner
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: purge is for complete uninstall, not sure if that will fix your issue, read the thread
[07:18] <bazhang> beyondcr, ok, thought it was worth suggesting
[07:19] <serialquestioner> thanks mr. ubottu
[07:19] <beyondcr> bazhang, it was a good suggestion, that is a must have tool in my imo
[07:19] <serialquestioner> lotuspsychje well i can try
[07:19] <export> beyondcr: you can tell your friend to try different desktop environments and even keep them all and choose which one your friend wants at login :)
[07:20] <heADaChE> .
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> beyondcr: but still after getting used to unity, it all gets very easy
[07:20] <heADaChE> o('.')o
[07:20] <beyondcr> unity is nice we tried them all, just the little things he wants to pick on
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> heADaChE: plz stick to ubuntu support mate
[07:20] <export> yeah i know what you mean XD i went with cinnamon XD fell in love
[07:21] <beyondcr> personally I did not care for unity then I had is empty feeling and had to have it back
[07:21] <export> i don't hate unity i just don't really prefer it
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> lets move on guys
[07:21] <beyondcr> yep thanks for the help
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: did you try transmission its pretty good and comes by default?
[07:24] <paul_> hi there, Can I have some assistance please.
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | paul_
[07:24] <root> !useradd
[07:24] <paul_> I am attempting to run a citrix session - using java.
[07:25] <serialquestioner> !aptitude >  lotuspsychje
[07:25] <paul_> When I click on "my desktop" link, my browser proceeds to download an "ica" file.
[07:25] <paul_> rather than load my citrix desktop.
[07:25] <serialquestioner> well anyway i don't have it installed and it tells me that it shouldn't work properly on my ubuntu version
[07:25] <paul_> this was not happening a couple of days ago.
[07:25] <Guest52181> how to adduser?
[07:26] <paul_> I want it to load my citrix desktop.
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest52181: you just triggered the info...
[07:26] <paul_> I have tried to install Citrix Receiver from the citrix reciver website, though it didn't have sufficient libraries for my 64bit system.
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> paul_: from ubuntu you want a citrix session?
[07:27] <paul_> yes that's right.
[07:27] <paul_> I want to access my work citrix from my ubuntu environment.
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> !citrix | paul_
[07:28] <paul_> thank you
[07:28] <wskk> hello
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> paul_: np mate
[07:29] <wskk> I'm having graphics issues
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> wskk: shoot your issue mate
[07:30] <bazhang> !details | wskk
[07:30] <ReiXor> I would like to say hello to the Linux community. I've been interested in Linux and it's potential for years, but as a gamer I got stuck with... well, you know. Then I started watching the Linux Action Show and discovered that I had lost track of the progress being made. I've now been using Ubuntu on a laptop for about 2 months now (my first hands-on experience), and I can't get enough....
[07:30] <ReiXor> ...However, as I have been stuck in the black hole that is MS for 15 years or so, I'm basically as noobish as it gets. So any advice for a brand-spanking-new Linux user would be invaluable. My apologies for the gigantic post.
[07:30] <bazhang> !manual | ReiXor
[07:30] <bazhang> !rute > ReiXor
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> ReiXor: you still wanna game from ubuntu?
[07:31] <bazhang> ReiXor, please keep it to actual support questions with your ubuntu install
[07:32] <ReiXor> I am a long-term gamer, so yes I really want to game with Linux.
[07:32] <serialquestioner> how to access my qbittorrent configuration log?
[07:32] <wskk> I'm running on Ubuntu 12.04 with an ATI Radeon HD 7770, and tried dling the fglrx software; it was disabled because of some kind of issue (after I noticed my Snap feature and such were not working even after double checking the systems settings to see if they were all on). So, I tried purging these files, re-dling them repeatedly with errors by the end and damaged pkgs
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> ReiXor: try steam, playonlinux and wine for gaming
[07:33] <bazhang> wskk, dling from where
[07:33] <ReiXor> will do
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: maybe in you /home (showing hidden files)
[07:34] <wskk> I have been using http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx with the proprietary driver from the ATI site
[07:34] <wskk> (12.6 as provided)
[07:35] <Silverex> Hey guys, I downloaded a tarball compiz patch from launchpad but how do I install the patch?
[07:35] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/qbittorrent.1.html    <------ serialquestioner
[07:36] <vnwildman> lzop is very fast, so why it isn't installed by default
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> !ot | vnwildman
[07:39] <serialquestioner> lotuspsychje i'm sorry lol i always forget...i don't usually use linux for everything cause i'm mainly a gamer too..i use it only for serious things and as a chicken i don't have a really serious life lol
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: please stick to ubuntu related questions here mate
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: you can discuss all kinds of things in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:40] <serialquestioner> ok lotuspsychje.. anyway i would say : thank you guys for your help you so nice to me.
[07:40] <wskk> hmm
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: come back any time for support here :p
[07:41] <codephobic> hi
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !ati | wskk
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> codephobic: hello, what can we help you with,?
[07:42] <codephobic> I absent-mindedly installed an xterm app that ubuntu 13.04 has hooked up to the Ctrl+f shortcut.
[07:42] <codephobic> I think I must have done it whilst installing/configuring something else (but it was a while ago)
[07:43] <codephobic> I need to reclaim the Ctrl+f for find
[07:43] <codephobic> how do I reset that?
[07:43] <ReiXor> there is some sort of network service in Ubuntu that isn't compatible with a windows network. (my gaming pc is still XP) I don't remember what it's called because the alert only shows for a second, and I can't find it again.
[07:44] <prashant_123456> insyde h2o uefi no options for secure boot and Windows "Fast boot" ??
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | prashant_123456
[07:44] <prashant_123456> lotuspsychje: cant find options
[07:45] <Silverex> Hey guys, I downloaded a tarball compiz patch from launchpad but how do I install the patch?
[07:45] <wskk> Is there a way for me to purge all of the files that I dled from my past attempts and clean out my damaged package (that didn't show up in Synaptic)
[07:45] <wskk> ?
[07:46] <serialquestioner> can i purge qbittorrent without using aptitude?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: you can also uninstall packages from software centre
[07:47] <bazhang> !apt-get | serialquestioner
[07:50] <EchoDev> Hi, what happens when I answer "no" to the question "Clone multiply-claimed block" in e2fsck?
[07:50] <captine> anyone here use ubuntu on macbook successfully.  i am little depressed as i had rewards and the only tech I could spend it on was Mac, but not being able to customise osx is making me miss ubuntu
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> !mac | captine
[07:52] <Silverex> Hey guys, I downloaded a tarball compiz patch from launchpad but how do I install the patch?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Silverex: you got an url on that?
[07:53] <serialquestioner> guys i tried to purge with  apt-get and reinstall but still can't get the point...tried to change something in configuration but i'm still so noob..it doesn't want to work..i think i need some more binding help O.o
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> Silverex: got a link for the patch?
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> EchoDev: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1720686
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> Silverex: but i'm guessing you'll have to compile compiz with that
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: how about you use pasteubuntu for your error on qbittorrent and paste it here
[07:56] <codephobic> hmm, I'm guessing experts are thin on the ground at this time of the morning.
[07:56] <codephobic> when does this place get busy? I'll come back later.
[07:56] <serialquestioner> !pastebin
[07:56] <Silverex> lotuspsychje: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/0.9.9/revision/3621
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> codephobic: re-ask your issue in here once in a while, not everyone is here all the time
[07:56] <EchoDev> thanks lotuspsychje
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> captine: i heard macs work pretty well, i've installed on a macbook4,1(2008) mostly no problems, broadcom wifi worked fine, media/alternative function keys can work - downsides battery life is 1-2hours worse than osx, trackpad isn't as smooth
[07:57] <serialquestioner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5849170/
[07:58] <codephobic> lotuspsychje, ah ... sorry thought you were a bot earlier.
[07:58] <codephobic> I absent-mindedly installed an xterm app that ubuntu 13.04 has hooked up to the Ctrl+f shortcut.
[07:58] <codephobic> I need to reclaim the Ctrl+f for find
[07:58] <codephobic> how do I reset that?
[07:58] <karlmh> i really am LOVING my new laptop from walmart today!! on sale for 298, intel i3 dual core 1.9, 6gb ram, 500 hdd, intel graphics (workimg with DRI, GLX). imstalled ubuntu right away, got compiz workng too
[07:58] <karlmh> 15.6 widescreen
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> !yay | karlmh
[07:59] <codephobic> karlmh, that reminds me .... I need to get a new graphics card, Ubuntu's more demanding than Windows 7 :(
[07:59] <karlmh> ubottu: been using linux for 10 years, used gentoo before ubuntu
[07:59] <kanliot> there's a 7570 on sale for $70 or something
[08:00] <serialquestioner> lotuspsychje i'm not able to define where the error is..cause i'm a noob chicken
[08:00] <karlmh> codephobic: no way!
[08:00] <codephobic> I'm going to have to catch-up with the times, can't use W8 or the newer X in Linux distributions.
[08:00] <serialquestioner> ubottu i think who created you is :)
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> guys, lets stick to ubuntu supporting questions
[08:00] <kanliot> x.org is gone in 13.10
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> use #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[08:01] <karlmh> kanliot: whats in its place??
[08:01] <kanliot> XMIR
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qbittorrent/+bug/990284
[08:02] <gordonjcp> codephobic: you could try turning off compositing?
[08:03] <gordonjcp> codephobic: I find it hard to believe you've got a graphics card that will work with Windows 7 but not work with Ubuntu
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> serialquestioner: dont you like transmission?
[08:06] <codephobic> gordonjcp, no that's not what I meant. my graphics card (at present) is working with ubuntu using default drivers, I can't use compiz or anything flash because nvidia aren't supporting the card any more. W7 just has the usual legacy support thing, so it works perfectly.
[08:07] <serialquestioner> i like it a lot...and i find it works really good..but still haven't got browser implemented...and i don't like to search for torrents in web :P
[08:07] <codephobic> going forward, I'll need to upgrade my graphics card, in order to make use of the more powerful functionalities available in any of the desktop Linux distros (aside from Debian which seems to be staying put with the old x).
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[08:14] <suore> Hello. I'have problem. VLC could not open the file "/media/wlosio/RECORDS/HBPVR/TVP_Rozrywka-07062013-0829.ts". (Input/output error)
[08:14] <suore> TVP_Rozrywka-07062013-0829.mts: writable, regular file, no read permission
[08:15] <captine> lotuspsychje, thanks for the link.  My challenge is my macbook is not listed.. Will try install when on better internet connection and see how it works.
[08:23] <pyoungyang> hello
[08:23] <prashant_123456> not able to disable secure boot and fast boot on hp 2000-2106tu
[08:27] <Silverex> Yo
[08:27] <Silverex> Does anyone know why compiz is taking up excessive amounts of CPU? It's giving me 100% CPU usage on core 1
[08:28] <Silverex> Causes applications to lag and video stutters
[08:32] <Silverex> Does anyone know why compiz is taking up excessive amounts of CPU? It's giving me 100% CPU usage on core 1. Causes applications to lag and video stutters
[08:33] <vadi> My USC has been stuck "applying changes" while installing distributed-net for two hours now. I don't think it'll ever finish, and I've already checked for possible windows it might have opened, there are none. How can I tell it to cancel installing?
[08:33] <vadi> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[08:34] <pyoungyang> hi
[08:34] <pyoungyang> i tried to install the wireless driver .
[08:35] <pyoungyang> but failed.
[08:35] <varunendra> pyoungyang, what is your card? (lspci -nn)
[08:36] <vadi> I think he missed the question
[08:36] <varunendra> pyoungyang, what is your card? (lspci -nn)
[08:36] <pyoungyang> where can I check the card specification?
[08:36] <pyoungyang> sorry, i am newbee
[08:37] <varunendra> pyoungyang, the command - "lspci -nn" in a terminal. Post its output here
[08:37] <pyoungyang> ubuntu version is 10.04 LTS
[08:37] <bekks> Do not post the output here.
[08:37] <bekks> Pastebin it, and give us the URL only.
[08:37] <bekks> !pastebin | pyoungyang
[08:37] <varunendra> bekks, that output is only one line by the way :)
[08:38] <vadi> It's pretty large for me
[08:38] <varunendra> pyoungyang, my first suggestion would be to upgrade to 12.04, maybe your wireless will work out-of-box.
[08:38] <bekks> varunendra: lspci -nn | wc -l returns 16 here.
[08:39] <varunendra> oh sorry, I forgot "| grep -i net" /facepalms
[08:40] <varunendra> pyoungyang, "lspci -nn | grep -i net". And 10.04 has reached its end of life. It is outdated now.
[08:41] <bekks> varunendra: "Only" the desktop, not the server.
[08:42] <varunendra> bekks, sure ! But I don't think they're using server.
[08:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> howdy all :D
[08:49] <prashant_123456> dual boot win7 and ubuntu but after completion of ubuntu 13.04 only win7 starts on hp2000-2106tu
[08:49] <histo> !grub | prashant_123456
[08:50] <prashant_123456> histo: secure boot is also disabled but i cannot find fast boot in bios setup
[08:50] <histo> prashant_123456: does grub load at all?
[08:51] <prashant_123456> histo: no straight windows 7 starts
[08:51] <histo> prashant_123456: well you need to install grub. At the end of installation it should have asked you if you wanted to install it.
[08:51] <histo> !uefi | prashant_123456
[08:51] <prashant_123456> histo: it havent asked it
[08:52] <prashant_123456> histo: asked me
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> prashant_123456: should check out boot-repair
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> !boot-repair
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> =_= this is not a command why? its too damn useful XD
[08:52] <prashant_123456> ntzrmtthihu777: ok so i have to boot repair using live cd ?
[08:53] <Unni> Hello folks ...I''m not able to use "put" command on my tftp server in 12.04  ...it says file not found..I can still able to use the "get" command....
[08:53] <Unni> Can someone help..
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> prashant_123456: yeah, but idk about how it acts with eufi or whatever its acalled.
[08:53] <vadi> Unni: what syntax are you using?
[08:53] <prashant_123456> ntzrmtthihu777: ok i will try to repair grub
[08:55] <vadi> My USC has been stuck "applying changes" while installing distributed-net for two hours now. I don't think it'll ever finish, and I've already checked for possible windows it might have opened, there are none. How can I tell it to cancel installing?
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> dunno, I haven't used usc in quite some time.
[08:57] <vadi> http://askubuntu.com/a/240226/4918 seems to have helped me.
[09:00] <prashant_123456> ntzrmtthihu777: path boot/grub is not accessible
[09:00] <Unni> vadi...its solved ...
[09:01] <giwrgaras> how can i change permission to a scv file
[09:02] <giwrgaras> i want to copy a csv file to a postgres table and i get the following:
[09:02] <giwrgaras> permission denied
[09:02] <Unni> actually I've to use  -c option to enable it...so I mofified /etc/defaults/tftpd-hpa file and changed the tftp_option to  TFTP_OPTIONS ="-c --secure
[09:02] <Unni> now the issue is solved..
[09:03] <Unni> vadi...thanks fr the replay...
[09:03] <gordonjcp> giwrgaras: without seeing the actual command and error message verbatim it's impossible to say
[09:04] <gordonjcp> giwrgaras: pastebin what you typed and the error message
[09:05] <giwrgaras> there is no error. i try to copy a file from my /home/me/Downloads to a table file using the command \copy mytable from /home/me/Downloads with header csv; and i get a 'PERMISSION DENIED'
[09:05] <giwrgaras> which means i am not the primary user of the file and cannot copy it i guess
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> test.
[09:06] <mvfdvsaqwsgnhnb> test too...
[09:07] <paco135> Hello guys, I was SMART testing this computer's hard drive and it says that the disk is healthy but that also FAILED to read. I tested a second, brand new hard drive and it's the same. What is wrong? The motherboard? The PSU?
[09:07] <giwrgaras> tried the chmod g+r, o+r NOTHING
[09:07] <medfly> hello. I have a problem w/ USB devices suddenly stopping to work (two kinds, so it is most likely not the devices themselves). if I type "lsusb" it gets stuck until I remove all the USB devices (which do not work).
[09:07] <giwrgaras> tried the chmod g+r, o+r /home/me/Downloads/myfile.csv
[09:08] <gordonjcp> giwrgaras: without seeing the command you typed and the exact error message there's no way to track it down
[09:08] <gordonjcp> giwrgaras: you did not get just "permission denied"
[09:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> alrighty, seems to be in order :D
[09:09] <medfly> the two USB devices that cause problems: 1. Logitech mouse (not a problem on its own) 2. keyboard with a PS/2->USB adapter. (introduction of this started causing the problems)
[09:09] <medfly> however, if I connect just the mouse now it doesn't work either.
[09:10] <giwrgaras> ..
[09:10] <histo> medfly: check dmesg
[09:11] <giwrgaras> 'Could not open the file
[09:11] <giwrgaras> 'Could not open the file '/mpla/mpla/mytable.csv' for reading. Permission denied'
[09:12] <histo> giwrgaras: ls -l /mpla/mpla/mytable.csv
[09:12] <medfly> I did. says stuff like: [ 6118.142249] usb 2-1.4: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[09:12] <histo> medfly: is that device possibly going bad?
[09:12] <gordonjcp> medfly: ps/2-usb adaptors are flaky at best :-/
[09:12] <medfly> histo: no USB device is working, so yes.
[09:13] <medfly> gordonjcp: yes, I have noticed. but I wonder why just inserting the USB mouse doesn't work now either. I assume that if I reboot it iwll start working...
[09:13] <medfly> I really like having a keyboard. oh well
[09:13] <medfly> maybe buy a normal USB one
[09:13] <gordonjcp> medfly: I don't know, maybe it just makes the controller toss its cookies
[09:14] <giwrgaras> -rw-r--rw- 1
[09:16] <medfly> thanks
[09:17] <histo> giwrgaras: what command are you using?
[09:18] <giwrgaras> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1943801
[09:18] <giwrgaras> COPY table_name
[09:18] <giwrgaras> FROM '/home/kramer65/Bureaublad/table_data.csv'
[09:18] <giwrgaras> WITH DELIMITER ',' CSV HEADER
[09:18] <giwrgaras> QUOTE '"'
[09:18] <FloodBot1> giwrgaras: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <histo> giwrgaras: ask in mysql support
[09:19] <giwrgaras> its a ubuntu problem
[09:19] <histo> giwrgaras: or whatever database you are using
[09:19] <giwrgaras> as always everything works fine in windows but not in this crap
[09:20] <histo> giwrgaras: Well it's a permissions issue mostlike with your database
[09:24] <histo> giwrgaras: but feel free to blame the os
[09:25] <lesshaste> how do you start ssh-agent at boot rather than having to open a terminal and start it there?
[09:25] <lesshaste> or at log in
[09:28] <tofa> lesshaste I think you can use update-rc.d
[09:28] <lesshaste> isn't there a  "manage passwords" tool or something?
[09:30] <bekks> lesshaste: No.
[09:31] <srimanta> Hi
[09:31] <lesshaste> bekks, so what is the standard way of doing this? The problem is that if I run ssh-agent from a terminal then apps I run by clicking on icons don't work
[09:32] <srimanta> Can somebody help me out with Ralink3290 driver.
[09:32] <lesshaste> isn't there a gnome keyring?
[09:32] <srimanta> It si frequently crashing my system
[09:32] <lesshaste> srimanta, best to google any error messages
[09:33] <srimanta> Not got any solution from googling
[09:33] <srimanta> My dmesg shows : RT3290_AsicTxAlcGetAutoAgcOffset: Incorrect desired TSSI or current TSSI
[09:34] <superdo> hi
[09:34] <superdo> can I somehow download boot-repair package ?
[09:34] <srimanta> On forum it tells to upgrade to kernel 3.7
[09:34] <srimanta> but it doesnot help
[09:35] <lesshaste> srimanta, try posting to askubuntu assumign you have done all the right upgrading
[09:35] <superdo> I have problems with dual booting Win8 & Ubuntu, but have no internet conn. when I run the Live Usb ..
[09:35] <lesshaste> srimanta, read http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10422.30 too
[09:36] <DJones> superdo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair Has a link to a downloadable iso which contains the boot repair package
[09:38] <superdo> DJones, thanks, but I tried it with a boot repair usb install, it needs internet to work properly, so its quits..
[09:40] <superdo> the strange, when I disable EFI in bios, my laptop cant find ubuntu on usb, gives a command line like ...
[09:40] <superdo> i think about its better to burn ubuntu install on a dvd..
[09:41] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[09:41] <OerHeks> + black screen + blinking cursor
[09:41] <DJones> !uefi | superdo Thankfully, I've nor come across any Win 8 machines yet, but maybe something in this link that will help,
[09:42] <superdo> DJones, yes, I know this link, the article doesnt count with when I have no internet booting the live cd/usb
[09:43] <superdo> I used successfully earlier boot-repair, but that time - dont know why, how - had internet conn.
[09:43] <DJones> superdo: I can't understand why it needs internet to run
[09:43] <superdo> boot-repair sends a link trough internet after its ready
[09:44] <DJones> superdo: Are you able to use a wired connection on a temporary basis to get past that
[09:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. just a bit o' info, please. I should like to delete a few certain files each day @ 00:00. I know chron is what I need to use, and I know the command needed to be executed (rm $HOME/.irssi/logs/*/*/*/*/{nickserv,auth}.log), but exactly *where* to place this idk.
[09:44] <superdo> no :(
[09:44] <varunendra> superdo, in case of no internet, boot repair will just save the boot info in a local file (not sure in Home or desktop).
[09:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> superdo: just grab the .deb package and install it. the don't really need the link :P
[09:44] <superdo> hm
[09:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> this is one of the packages I think really belongs on the iso :P, like how gparted is on the livecd but isn't installed on the system itself. its too damn useful :D
[09:45] <superdo> yes
[09:46] <superdo> do you think that it can be a problem I use now SSD drive?
[09:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> superdo: unlikely.
[09:47] <varunendra> superdo, you can also manually run the boot info script to generate the boot-info summary : http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[09:47] <superdo> read some forum posts on askubuntu guys leave ssd and go back to HDD and was all ok
[09:47] <superdo> ok
[09:48] <BlueChaos> hello
[09:48] <superdo> varunendra, and what info can I get to use it in next step?
[09:49] <varunendra> superdo, the link I gave you also has the steps to use it.
[09:49] <BlueChaos> guys any ps3 emulator for ubuntu or olther kaind of emulator for ubuntu ?
[09:49] <BlueChaos> how can i do to run ps3 file?
[09:50] <varunendra> once you have the "Results.txt" file, copy it to the usb drive and pastebin it from a system which has internet connection. superdo
[09:50] <superdo> varunendra, ok.
[09:50] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, PCSX2 will enable you to play ps2 games. Nothing yet for PS3.
[09:50] <varunendra> BlueChaos, I don't think there is a PS3 emulator out yet
[09:51] <varunendra> for ps2, you have plenty of choices in Ubuntu. BlueChaos
[09:51] <BlueChaos> i'm using ubuntu varunendra  but i'm wanna play naruto shippuden ultimate storm 3
[09:51] <varunendra> I personally like PCSX, BlueChaos
[09:52] <BlueChaos> and I cannot run that file intro ps2
[09:52] <varunendra> BlueChaos, is it a ps3 game ?
[09:52] <BlueChaos> yes
[09:53] <varunendra> Then probably you are out of luck, BlueChaos
[09:53] <BlueChaos> http://ps3gameiso.blogspot.ro/2013/03/naruto-shippuden-ultimate-ninja-storm-3.html
[09:54] <claudia> ano?
[09:54] <tofa> lesshaste , try sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[09:54] <claudia> per parlare in italiano?
[09:54] <DJones> !it | claudia
[09:54] <BlueChaos> but I sow in youtube.com guys running it , ive replace windows with ubuntu to run it ..
[09:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> !it | claudia
[09:55] <BlueChaos> can u take a look ?
[09:55] <BlueChaos> and tell me how to do please.
[09:56] <varunendra> BlueChaos, I don't know of a ps3 emulator yet. But I'd sure like to take a look if you have a link to it.
[09:57] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, show us the ps3 game running on ubuntu
[09:57] <BlueChaos> OerHeks, I've told i'm searching for a emulator for ubuntu  not i'm use I test ps2 emulator with windows
[09:58] <varunendra> BlueChaos, by the way, it's the first time I've heard someone replacing windows with Linux for games !! LOL
[09:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> varunendra: make me the second one, then :P
[09:58] <gordonjcp> varunendra: all the good stuff is already in Linux
[09:58] <magic_al> i created a shellscript which opens a application with some specific parameters. can anyone tell me how i can add a "shell shortcut" to this script? i want the script to be executed by just writing a single word in the terminal
[09:58] <gordonjcp> varunendra: and the Source engine actually works better in Wine than native Windows...
[09:58] <BlueChaos> I know , it's sounds bad , but what too do that i've sow that i do ..
[09:59] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, you stated a ps3 game could be run on ubuntu, so i asked.
[09:59] <gordonjcp> BlueChaos: most PCs don't really have the grunt to emulate a PS3
[09:59] <tofa> lesshaste , has it worked?
[09:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: easy. place it in a folder ~/.bin, and add that to your $PATH variabl
[09:59] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, PCSX2 will enable you to play ps2 games. Nothing yet for PS3.
[09:59] <gordonjcp> BlueChaos: in fact a quick back-of-an-envelope calculation suggests you'd need a fairly meaty cluster to do it
[09:59] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, how to add it to the path?
[09:59] <histo> gordonjcp: why wouldn't you just run steam natively instead of wine
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: easy enough. add the following line towards the end of your ~/.bashrc
[10:00] <histo> magic_al: add an alias
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> PATH=$HOME/.bin:$PATH
[10:00] <gordonjcp> histo: Steam != Source
[10:00] <varunendra> BlueChaos, if you have any link showing ps3 game running on an emulator, please share it with us.
[10:01] <gordonjcp> histo: I haven't played with Steam recently though
[10:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: now any script/binary you place in ~/.bin can be called from the terminal. I have quite a few there myself. (assuming they have the executable bit set and a proper shebang)
[10:02] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks a lot, i'll test
[10:02] <varunendra> gordonjcp, I recall reading somewhere that the directx actually translates the instructions into opengl types before sending them to the hardware, thus double work !
[10:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: no prob. I find this setup to be useful :P
[10:02] <histo> magic_al: you will ahve to log out and back in of a terminal for it to work.
[10:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: or run source ~/.bashrc
[10:03] <BlueChaos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVh1evr7mWg
[10:03] <BlueChaos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAWZVEEqCzA
[10:04] <gordonjcp> varunendra: !
[10:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> varunendra: typical M$ :P
[10:04] <gordonjcp> varunendra: as I understand it, OpenGL is closer to the hardware primitives of most GPUs than DX
[10:04] <varunendra> BlueChaos, I'd like to mention that I'm on a GPRS connection, so a video is going to take me ..... umm... probably less than a couple hours ??
[10:04] <gordonjcp> varunendra: ie. OpenGL was written as a thin layer on the GPU of *a specific device*
[10:05] <denysonique> 16WAAOW51 17WAB05WZ  18VABEU1S  co to za kosmici?
[10:05] <gordonjcp> varunendra: and subsequent devices have kind of tried to match up to OpenGL, which in turn tries to match up to the hardware...
[10:05] <DJones> BlueChaos: Looking at the videos, the first was running on Windows and the second was Ubuntu running on a PS3, neither of them was a PS3 game running in an emulator on Ubuntu
[10:06] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, the 1st one is windows, the 2nd one is running ubuntu on ps3. not actually running a ps3 game on ubuntu.
[10:06] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, i get this error: bash: /home/alex/.bin/rapidminer.sh: /bin/rapidminer: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[10:06] <DJones> !pl | denysonique
[10:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: could you pastebin it?
[10:06] <BlueChaos> DJones,  I gave u a url just to see it works I don`t search directly for ubuntu  ,
[10:06] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, but before moving it, the script work well
[10:06] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, the script or the error?
[10:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: the script
[10:06] <BlueChaos> and the ps3 is on the marked but only payd not free versions'
[10:07] <OerHeks> BlueChaos, if theere was a solution, we told you.
[10:07] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, just one line: #!/bin/rapidminer
[10:07] <magic_al>   2 java -jar ~/RapidMiner/lib/rapidminer.jar
[10:07] <BlueChaos> k thank you for support ..
[10:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: not how you do that, lol.
[10:07] <histo> magic_al: yeah #!/bin/rapidminer is wrong and you should replace ~ with /home/username
[10:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> I don't think, at least. this is a java jar program?
[10:08] <Technodrome> hey
[10:08] <Technodrome> all of once, my apt-get can't connect to a repo
[10:08] <Technodrome> just sits at 0 percent
[10:08] <histo> magic_al: #!/bin/bash  and the second line shoudl be java -jar /home/username/RapidMiner/lib/rapidminer.jar
[10:08] <Technodrome> but i can ping anything i want
[10:08] <varunendra> gordonjcp, that's the fact that doubly baffles me why there are no decent 3d games for Linux.
[10:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: you did not answer our question, lol.
[10:09] <histo> Technodrome: perhaps the repo is down
[10:09] <Technodrome> hmmm
[10:09] <res32> hi, my brightness slider in "Brightness and Lock" settings of Ubuntu 13.04 is not working. There is no change to brightness when I use the slider. i've tried several solutions posted by others in forums and askubuntu, but none helped.
[10:09] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, sorry i dont understand, what is the question? :)
[10:10] <Technodrome> it pings just fine histo
[10:10] <Technodrome> the repo
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: rapidminer is a jar program, right?
[10:10] <tofa> res32, what hardware?
[10:10] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, yes it is
[10:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: then likely what histo gave will work.
[10:10] <res32> tofa: I'm using a dell 14r n4010 laptop.
[10:11] <res32> tofa: intel hd graphics
[10:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: the #!/bin/whatever should point to a command interpreter, not a program as most people think of them.
[10:11] <magic_al> ntzrmtthihu777, alright i got it. it works fine now, thank you guys for help
[10:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> magic_al: np man, I've been there :P
[10:12] <tofa> res32, have you tried this ppa? linux-kamal-mjgbacklight PPA
[10:13] <res32> tofa: nop. I wasn't sure if I could use it with raring
[10:13] <res32> tofa: i've seen it
[10:14] <tofa> res32, you can add non-raring ppa's
[10:14] <tofa> res32, by editing them in sources.d
[10:14] <res32> tofa: okay. let me try adding it
[10:17] <histo> res32: ppa's aren't supported
[10:17] <res32> histo: sorry, I don't understand
[10:18] <theadmin> res32: What histo means is if a ppa breaks your system or doesn't work, this channel will not help with it
[10:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> res32: he means they are not "official ubuntu software" so #ubuntu does not support them.
[10:18] <res32> ntzrmtthihu777: histo ah understood.
[10:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> res32: doesn't mean they don't work, or that someone here won't help you on a personal level, but #ubuntu as a whole doesn't support them.
[10:19] <res32> ntzrmtthihu777: . yea, if there's any problem, i should contact the dev right? or it's respective forum or something
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> res32: you got it.
[10:22] <tofa> res32, sorry it seems this is a confirmed bug.
[10:23] <res32> tofa: so, shouldn't i use the ppa and see?
[10:23] <tofa> res32, sure try it out, if it works great but I have no idea how it does it.
[10:23] <threesome> Hi, is it possible to set up whole disk encryption when installing Ubuntu in something like VirtualBox? (Does it even make sense to do this?)
[10:24] <theadmin> threesome: Sure, it'll encrypt the virtual virtualbox HD
[10:24] <OerHeks> res32, that ppa won't work unless you are on Natty 11.04
[10:24] <tofa> res32, If all else fails run xev in a terminal and see if it registers anything for the function keys that control the backlight.
[10:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:25] <res32> tofa: trying an apt-get update after adding the ppa gives me a 404 error.
[10:25] <res32> OerHeks: oh okay.
[10:25] <threesome> theadmin, so when running the ISO installer in VirtualBox it'll give the same option to set up full-disk encryption just like when running the installer on a desktop? (Sorry I don't have much experience with VirtualBox)
[10:26] <theadmin> threesome: Sure, the installer doesn't care whether the hardware is virtual or not (well, it sort of does, it will download the Virtualbox Guest Additions during the install, I *think*, but other than that...)
[10:26] <res32> tofa: yes, the keys are detected
[10:26] <threesome> theadmin, cool, I'll try this out
[10:26] <threesome> Thanks
[10:27] <OerHeks> tofa, maybe ths option " acpi_backlight=vendor" , add it to grub like !nomodeset
[10:27] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[10:27] <tofa> OerHeks, I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/289171/brightness-controls-not-working-on-a-dell-inspiron-n4010-laptop/289177#289177
[10:28] <res32> OerHeks: i have the boot parameter already set.
[10:28] <tofa> OerHeks, which links to a confirmed bug.
[10:28] <A1Recon> Anyone using Wireless Keyboard Mouse for Ubuntu?? Is Logitech good??
[10:28] <OerHeks> tofa, oke, the last part is the same solution
[10:29] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, I'm using a MS KB and mouse without any problems
[10:29] <tofa> OerHeks, any other thoughts on the solution?
[10:29] <A1Recon> BluesKaj: Model??
[10:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: I'm using a logitech mouse, it does well for me.
[10:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: in general if its not something hot off the press it works, lol.
[10:30] <OerHeks> tofa nope, this is the best i know :-(
[10:30] <res32> so this means I'm stuck rt
[10:30] <tofa> res32, have you tried using xev.
[10:30] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, MS wireless 2000
[10:30] <res32> tofa. it registers the keys
[10:30] <A1Recon> BluesKaj: TY
[10:31] <tofa> res32, also changing the boot parameter acpi_osi= can sometimes help.
[10:31] <BluesKaj> A1Recon, got them on sale for 30 bucks
[10:31] <res32> should i leave acpi_osi=  blank?
[10:32] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: I have USB keyboards of Logitech. But I like this P/S 2 keboard of Logitech - K100. I think they are cute and they have no key tapping sounds at all.. I love them
[10:32] <tofa> res32, yes you can try it don't think it'll help but I had a similar problem on this laptop and it helped.
[10:33] <res32> tofa: if i remember correctly, i have tried acpi_osi="Linux" and acpi_osi="'Windows 2012'" or something like this, but didn't help
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: heh, my current machine has no ps2 ports
[10:33] <superdo> varunendra: my results from bootinfoscript, can you help me? http://pastebin.com/Uf7AsHn9
[10:35] <varunendra> superdo, what is the problem? I didn't follow it earlier..
[10:35] <res32> tofa: is there a way i could detect the hotkey press in python, get the current value and increase or decrease it according to the key
[10:35] <superdo> win8 , ubuntu dual boot problem
[10:36] <columb> Why there is a org.chromium.Chromium.shmem.libcef_ at my /dev/shm? I don't even have Chronium installed.
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> superdo  what command did you use to get that output?
[10:36] <varunendra> superdo, as per the boot info, you currently aren't dual booting at all! Only Windows
[10:36] <superdo> :(
[10:37] <varunendra> MonkeyDust, boot_info_script
[10:37] <superdo> MonkeyDust : just run the bootinfoscript
[10:37] <cfhowlett> superdo, how did you install?  windows/wubi?
[10:37] <superdo> cfhowlett: nono, no wubi
[10:37] <superdo> 1. win8
[10:37] <superdo> 2. ubuntu 13.04
[10:37] <cheesecakes> hello
[10:37] <cfhowlett> cheesecakes, greetings
[10:37] <cheesecakes> can i get some quasselcore help?
[10:37] <OerHeks> columb a google search shows that it comes with Steam?
[10:38] <superdo> cfhowlett: on the same SSD
[10:38] <varunendra> oh, ok, taking a closer look, superdo
[10:38] <columb> DerHeks. Oh, okay.
[10:38] <cheesecakes> anyone setup a quasselcore on ubuntu?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> superdo, ah, ssd AND uefi.  nice but completely out of my range of experience.  someone else on this channel will no doubt know.  post details and ask again
[10:39] <varunendra> superdo, did you install it in UEFI mode? Is your BIOS currently set to use EFI?
[10:39] <superdo> cfhowlett, ok
[10:39] <cheesecakes> ok one guy just quit
[10:39] <cheesecakes> lol
[10:39] <cheesecakes> anyway to just state my problem
[10:39] <cheesecakes> i cant connect to the core from the interwebz
[10:39] <cheesecakes> i get the error in core.log as "Non authed Client disconncted"
[10:39] <superdo> varunendra: I hat to switch on. because EFI switch off and trying to boot Ubuntu LiveUSB gave me "error", dropped to some command line
[10:39] <mamdouh> hello everyone
[10:40] <varunendra> cfhowlett, the fact that it is ssd shouldn't affect anything regarding booting.
[10:40] <superdo> varunendra: but not the usual command line
[10:40] <cheesecakes> also for some strange reason quasselcore is listening on ip6, when i dont even have it enables
[10:40] <cheesecakes> *ipv6
[10:40] <cfhowlett> varunendra, sounds like you'd be better at advising him than I.  Proceed.
[10:40] <cheesecakes> i can connect from lolcalhost
[10:41] <varunendra> superdo, that's not a problem. Just so you know, if the live system boots with UEFI, it will install in UEFI mode. If you change that later, it won't boot
[10:41] <superdo> varunendra, yes
[10:42] <varunendra> but it's long since I dealt with any boot issue, so can't be sure on everything. I invite others to jump in..!
[10:42] <tofa> res32, I think there's a way to hard code key presses in X but I don't know how to do it.
[10:42] <tofa> res32, does manually changing the screen brightness work then?
[10:43] <superdo> varunendra, I tried boot-repair with liveusb, but drops error it needs some package to pre-installed..
[10:43] <res32> tofa: only the command where I echo the value to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight works
[10:43] <varunendra> superdo, did you try the Live ISOs that come with boot-repair pre-installed?
[10:43] <varunendra> to fix the boot.
[10:43] <superdo> varunendra, yes.
[10:44] <varunendra> that shouldn't need any extra packages to install grub ! superdo
[10:44] <superdo> varunendra, I run the auto mode, made something, then gave the message I dont have internet so exiting,...
[10:44] <tofa> res32, I'm pretty sure you can hardcode X to echo numbers to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight but how you do that I don't know.
[10:45] <tofa> res32, just a stupid question you are running update-grub each time?
[10:45] <res32> tofa: okay, i'll look up on that
[10:45] <res32> tofa: yup
[10:45] <varunendra> superdo, that would be regarding the uploading of the report. You should boot it again, then try installing grub in /dev/sda
[10:45] <superdo> varunendra, hmm good idea
[10:45] <tofa> res32, try uname -r what does it return? Might be a kernel thing.
[10:46] <res32> tofa: 3.8.0-26-generic
[10:46] <superdo> varunendra, need to google for the appropriate grub install commands..
[10:46] <varunendra> superdo, boot repair should give you options, you should only need to choose the correct one > then install
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> res32  the current kernel is -25, where did you get that one?
[10:46] <tofa> res32, Sorry I can't be of more help. There should be a way around this, ask round.
[10:47] <res32> MonkeyDust: i just use the regular software update
[10:47] <res32> tofa: thanks for the help
[10:47] <theadmin> What's the actual status on Wubi, by the way? Is it completely dropped from future releases, or is it just not present in 13.04?
[10:47]  * MonkeyDust updates to see kernel changes
[10:48] <superdo> theadmin, its on the 13.04 liveusb, but I read doesnt work with Win8.. not sure..
[10:48] <cfhowlett> theadmin, like a zombie, it is risen from the dead and (I've heard) live with 13.10 ...
[10:48] <gustav___> Eh, so if supertuxkart hangs and I'm not using optirun, just onprocessor GPU, what am I doing wrong?
[10:48] <res32> MonkeyDust: maybe i use the raring-proposed branch too
[10:48] <varunendra> superdo, the option I'm looking for is (in my old version of Boot-Repair) Boot-Repair GUI > Advanced options > Grub Location
[10:48] <cheesecakes> theadmin: are you from blinken?
[10:48] <theadmin> cfhowlett: lol, oookay
[10:48] <cheesecakes> karan here
[10:48] <cheesecakes> \o/
[10:48] <theadmin> cheesecakes: Used to be. I stopped visiting it a while ago because some, ahem, was harrasing me.
[10:49] <cheesecakes> yeah i know
[10:49] <cheesecakes> glad to meet you again :d
[10:49] <theadmin> cheesecakes: :P pm me if you wish
[10:49] <BluesKaj> theadmin, afaik , wubi is finished , kaput , dropped
[10:49] <superdo> varunendra, thanks, trying things ..
[10:49] <cheesecakes> theadmin: i gotta run
[10:50] <cheesecakes> catch you later
[10:50] <theadmin> superdo: The "wubi.exe" on the LiveCDs isn't WUBI in the common sense anymore, it's just a tool to help you boot the install media without using the actual media -- it copies install data to the HD and then boots that.
[10:50] <gustav___> 3D games hanging. Help?
[10:50] <superdo> ok
[10:51] <varunendra> superdo, make sure you choose correct location of "OS to boot", and place grub into "/dev/sda"
[10:51] <theadmin> cfhowlett, BluesKaj: Soo... Which one is it? :D
[10:51] <BluesKaj> theadmin, dropped
[10:52] <theadmin> Eh, guess I'll see for myself with certainty around when 14.04 is released
[10:53] <BluesKaj> theadmin, no guessing , it won't be available
[10:53] <theadmin> BluesKaj: Okay. That's for the better, I suppose.
[10:54] <BluesKaj> yes , wubi caused more problems than it's worth IMO
[10:54] <Layke> On 12.04. (KDE as well if relevant) I'd like to increase my mouse wheel scroll. Is there any setting to achieve this?
[10:54] <theadmin> True enough, on the one hand it helps attract new users, on the other it makes them think Ubuntu's buggy
[10:54] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, wubi has probably killed more interest in ubuntu than any ubuntu bug
[10:54] <Layke> I went to Mouse KDE Control Module, and increased Mouse wheel scrolls by 4 lines, but it had no affect after saving.
[10:54] <gordonjcp> wubi is horrible
[10:55] <gustav___> 3D games hanging. Help?
[10:55] <gordonjcp> and using wubi results in a *terrible* user experience
[10:55] <gordonjcp> !help | gustav___
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> soon, the last release with wubi in the iso, will be !eol
[10:55] <theadmin> gustav___: Run any of those games from a terminal and paste the output, maybe one can deduct something from that.
[10:55] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: about time too