[06:46] <james_> are there any broadcom wireless experts in here? i went through a procedure to make mine work that i found in ubuntu forums, but now my computer cannot see my wireless card at all
[06:46] <max_nooby_noob> oh sorry, I didn't realize that was a link
[06:46] <bjv> rockzman: gaim is fat with features, but i notice no slowness on my pc133 1.4ghz machine.
[06:46] <kaot> james_: which chipset?
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[06:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:47] <james_> kaot: 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4319 (rev 02)
[06:47] <rockzman> bjv:  thanks
[06:47] <maagimies> btw if anyones looking a gtk style for a dark desktop, i found this: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27141
[06:47] <james_> i guess 4319 would be the chipset?
[06:47] <kaot> james_: sorry mine's slightly different.  you using ndiswrapper or bcm43xx kernel module?
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> james no
[06:47] <james_> kaot: i have tried both
[06:47] <max_nooby_noob> sorry Jack, what link?
[06:47] <kaot> james_: was it working at some point in the past?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> james_:  more likely a bcm43xx
[06:48] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode with a ubuntu cd? i dont get a boot: prompt
[06:48] <james_> i see
[06:48] <max_nooby_noob> the wiki?
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: look up
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> binary driver how to
[06:48] <james_> kaot: no, i have not had it working in linux yet
[06:48] <ba> cubikdice, answer pm foo!
[06:48] <cubikdice> ba, i did foo!
[06:49] <ba> i see nothing
[06:49] <kaot> james_: what happened with mine was ,i got it working with ndiswrapper under 5.10, I upgraded, 6.06 "helpfully" installed bcm43xx driver for me
[06:49] <kaot> which didn't work at all
[06:49] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: i tried to install the bcm43xx driver and things went from bad to worse. i am thinking about reinstalling and starting over
[06:49] <martin> charle97 - are you there?
[06:49] <kaot> so I had to put bcm43xx in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, then i uninstalled & reinstalled ndiswrapper.
[06:50] <kaot> james_: at that point the tough part was finding a working bcmwl5.inf file
[06:50] <max_nooby_noob> Jack, this is all I saw in addition to the wiki: sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[06:50] <kaot> james_: that was trial-and-error
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> james, were you working with an upgraded system or original Dapper install
[06:50] <james_> kaot: i guess i will have to keep experimenting too
[06:51] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: this is a fresh dapper install
[06:51] <kaot> james_: just make sure bcm43xx isn't loading on boot
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: I would do that page from the top...
[06:51] <kaot> james_: that'll get in the way
[06:51] <max_nooby_noob> I believe the ati installer I'm trying to run is newer than the wiki
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> james_:  then a fresh install will probably not work.
[06:51] <kaot> james_: have you tried the fwcutter approach?
[06:51] <james_> kaot, that may be what is happening, but i did blacklist it
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: then undo what you were doing and do it the way we know works
[06:51] <kaot> james_: well just modprobe | grep bcm to make sure it isn't loading
[06:52] <james_> kaot: yes, that is what i did that caused my system to not see my card anymore
[06:52] <whiter> i have a problem... i have an S3 video card and when i do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to select the S3 driver it doesnt work, when x tries to start the monitor goes blank
[06:52] <jorgeu> !locale
[06:52] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[06:52] <whiter> the only way i can get video is by using the vesa driver
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> S3 -= Trident dosent it..
[06:52] <kaot> james_: when you say "not see your card" do you mean in network manager or iwconfig or what?
[06:52] <whiter> -= ?
[06:53] <whiter> well... worth a try now isnt it
[06:53] <whiter> brb
[06:53] <internat> stupid question what is the testing distro of ubuntu?
[06:53] <whiter> edgy elf probably
[06:53] <max_nooby_noob> ok, I simply added sudo to the command kaot recommended and it works
[06:53] <james_> kaot: both
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> whiter:  Trident chipset, you might just stick with vesa or get something a little newer for your video card
[06:53] <whiter> eh it isnt that important
[06:53] <kaot> james_: pcmcia or pci card or what?
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> whiter:  Nvidia would be the better choice (Any MOdel) over S3
[06:54] <whiter> i just found these parts laying around
[06:54] <whiter> this box is 500mhz/512mb ram and i just threw ubuntu on it hoping itd work
[06:54] <james_> kaot: i just entered modprobe | grep bcm... what should i look for?
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> whiter: and it worked, just not hi-res video
[06:54] <james_> kaot: it is built in
[06:55] <whiter> alright, let me try trident, brb.
[06:55] <james_> i am guessing pcmcia?
[06:55] <kaot> james_: well, you shouldn't get any output,basically.
[06:55] <kaot> from that command.
[06:55] <kaot> james_: oh so you've got some kind of light on the laptop that tells you when it's active?
[06:55] <james_> kaot: i got like 4 lines
[06:55] <kaot> rilly?
[06:55] <james_> kaot: yes
[06:56] <Servo888> Man picasa2 for linux is sweet! Nothing competes with it... Which is sad in a way, but true.
[06:57] <kaot> james_: you reboot since blacklisting it?
[06:57] <james_> kaot: yes
[06:58] <kaot> james_: hrm.  well, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, paste what you got there.
[06:59] <max_nooby_noob> ok now the installer asks me to Launch the Terminal Application/Window and run  /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial to configure the driver
[06:59] <james_> kaot: strange thing is, my wireless card actually showed as active after i ran fwcutter, but when i tried to configure it in network settings, the prompt asking for my password for administrator mode would not come up...that happens a lot, so i rebooted
[06:59] <james_> when it came back up, network settings did not list my wireless card at all anymore
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> james, root password holds for 10 minutes
[07:00] <SurfnKid> lmsensors is a mess to install!
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> No need to re-enter for repetitive operations
[07:00] <Godsmacko> j #ubuntu-es
[07:00] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: it was not holding,  the prompt just would not come uo
[07:00] <james_> up*
[07:00] <arooni-linux> i'm trying to get eclipse to see my subversion directory stored in /mnt/repostitory ... i tried typing in file:///mnt/repository, and it gives me back an error message that '/home/oem/file:/mnt' does not exist.... any ideas?
[07:00] <james_> kaot: i will pastebin that for u, brb
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> james, it just does not need to be entered again for 10 minute, someone said 5 but I read it was 10
[07:01] <max_nooby_noob> doesn't make sense
[07:01] <mooseman447> does anybody know how to make xchat automatically accept dcc files?
[07:01] <ljlolel> not 15?
[07:02] <max_nooby_noob> it asks me to run a file that I can't see on my sys: aticonfig
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow>  DO I hear 20... No I read it as 10
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob: did you try to just go to term and type that
[07:02] <max_nooby_noob> I'll try
[07:03] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys, im trying to add music to my girls ipod. I use rythmbox. but the ipod seems to be locked somehow. I dont know how to add music to it? can she only addmusic from her mac??
[07:03] <maagimies> mooseman447, are you actually sure you want to receive files automatically when some creep decides sends you donkey porn? :E
[07:03] <max_nooby_noob> a sh*tload of info popped up
[07:03] <mooseman447> maagimies lol yea if im going to be away id rather get it then delete when i return
[07:03] <bur[n] er> has anyone browsed files or synced with a  windows mobile 5 device with Dapper
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Probably not the best description
[07:04] <james_> kaot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17217
[07:04] <maagimies> but mooseman447, it's in the preferences, in the file transfer part
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> HEy Gang, Time for me to go to bed.  Just stopped in to stir the pot...
[07:04] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: i hear ya
[07:04] <kaot> james_: oh hell i'm a tard.  lsmod | grep bcm
[07:04] <james_> lol
[07:04] <kaot> wrong command
[07:04] <kaot> lol
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodnight
[07:05] <mooseman447> wtf thats the 3rd time today i missed somethng so obvious!!!
[07:05] <james_> kaot: ok brb
[07:05] <kleedrac> Does anyone have time to help me get print sharing working?
[07:05] <ljlolel> what is this lsmod thing?
[07:05] <maagimies> ljlolel, lsmod lists all the kernel modules that are loaded :)
[07:05] <ljlolel> cool
[07:05] <ljlolel> what time is it where you are?
[07:06] <maagimies> ljlolel, me? 08:06 :D
[07:06] <james_> Jack_Sparrow: good night
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Good luck James..
[07:06] <ljlolel> wow, it's 1am here
[07:06] <maagimies> kewl
[07:06] <ljlolel> gnight...
[07:07] <aaron_> hello, im trying to do "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre", but when I do it says error: Failed dependencies. Is there a way I can force it to install the dep's too?
[07:07] <james_> kaot: ok i entered that command and it did nothing
[07:07] <hey560> !java
[07:07] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:07] <hey560> !multiverse
[07:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:07] <kaot> james_: good.  ok.  sudo ndiswrapper -l
[07:08] <james_> kaot: nothing again
[07:08] <kaot> nothing at all?  it should give some output even if there's nothing installed
[07:08] <kaot> james_: do you have ndiswrapper-utils installed right now?
[07:09] <james_> oops, it needs a password lol
[07:09] <kaot> ...
[07:09] <kaot> lol
[07:09] <james_> kaot: ok, it says no drivers installed
[07:10] <EvilTechMonkey> whats up people
[07:10] <james_> kaot: i think i have utils installed, lemme check
[07:10] <kaot> james_: what's the output from lspci | grep Broadcom ?
[07:10] <kaot> james_: if that was a valid command it's installed
[07:11] <rtux> Hello everybody. It's 8:00 am here.. good morning :)
[07:11] <kaot> 0100 here.  good uh... dead of night.
[07:11] <rtux> haha kaot
[07:11] <maagimies> good morning rtux :)
[07:12] <auge02> hy
[07:12] <aaron_> hey, when I type java --version... it gives me the license agreement again and then down at the bottom it says error: Failed dependencies, how can I fix that?
[07:12] <rtux> hi maagimies
[07:12] <aaron_> I did as that link said
[07:12] <aaron_> in !java
[07:12] <rtux> Guys, does anyone know what this means: "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" ???
[07:12] <james_> kaot: should i pastebin that?
[07:12] <kaot> james_: should only be one line, right?
[07:12] <james_> kaot: 2 lines
[07:12] <Xgates> Does anyone a command I can run to remove broken symlinks in a directory?
[07:13] <Xgates> anyone know .....
[07:13] <kaot> james_: sure pastebin it i guess
[07:13] <RememberPOL> Hey, any ircops?
[07:13] <rtux> kaot.. do you know?
[07:13] <kaot> rtux: custom kernel?
[07:13] <rtux> Running ubuntu
[07:13] <rtux> I don't think so :)
[07:13] <whiter> back...
[07:14] <whiter> is there a way to use an older version of xorg or something?
[07:14] <kaot> rtux: well if you didn't compile your own kernel then it isn't.  I don't recall seeing that one, normally I'd say you don't have module support compiled into your kernel
[07:14] <kaot> but I dunno
[07:14] <whiter> anyone know how i can get and use an older version of xorg
[07:15] <james_> kaot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17218
[07:15] <rtux> kaot I am not sure what's the use of compiling the kernel and I don't know what it means. However, I was seeing my system log to find out why my system freezez from time to time, I realized that there is this error, maybe it contributes to system instability?
[07:15] <Xgates> anyone ??
[07:16] <lab2std>
[07:16] <kaot> Xgates: play with synaptic?  dunno enough about apt yet, sorry
[07:16] <whiter> apt is preety easy
[07:16] <whiter> "apt-get install <package>" or to find a package "apt-cache search <string"
[07:17] <kaot> james_: oh that's lovely.  laptop, right?  did you google your make and model laptop to get more info on your wireless card?
[07:17] <kaot> cuz that's pretty sparse on info
[07:17] <kaot> however
[07:18] <james_> kaot: yes, it is a dell b130, dell truemobile 1470
[07:18] <kaot> ahh.
[07:18] <rtux> Guys, does anyone know what this means: "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" ???
[07:19] <james_> i just got thislaptop last night
[07:19] <arooni> i'm trying to get eclipse to see my subversion directory stored in /mnt/repostitory ... i tried typing in file:///mnt/repository, and it gives me back an error message that '/home/oem/file:/mnt' does not exist.... any ideas?
[07:19] <kaot> james_: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R63259.EXE
[07:19] <kaot> james_: someone on ubuntuforums has very similar laptop
[07:20] <kaot> james_: so you unzip that exe, and then ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf that you get from that file
[07:20] <rtux> are all admins asleep now?
[07:20] <kaot> james_: actually here's the link, second post down
[07:21] <tritium> rtux: what's the matter?
[07:21] <james_> kaot: i think i tried all of that
[07:21] <rtux> I need some info..
[07:21] <infeld> hello pycube!
[07:21] <rtux> tritium: Do you know what this means: "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" ???
[07:22] <kaot> james_: there's a few commands with changing params in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5 ... do you remember doing those?
[07:22] <james_> kaot: was that person using breezy or dapper?
[07:22] <tritium> rtux: when do you see that?
[07:22] <james_> kaot: yes
[07:22] <rtux> I was trying to see the system log to find out what's the reason for occasional freezing of my system. I found this error somewhere I thought maybe it's the reason.
[07:23] <james_> kaot: i am wondering if i have messed some things up with all that i have tried.
[07:23] <kaot> james_: short answer is you're SOL for an easy answer I think.  I spent a few days on google and the forums pulling my hair out and ended up going back to ndiswrapper, and that still took me a few tries to get right.
[07:24] <kaot> james_: you may have but the main thing is you have to pick an approach, either bcm43xx kernel driver or ndiswrapper, and go from there.
[07:24] <rtux> tritium are you still there?
[07:24] <james_> kaot: funny thing is, the people in #bcm-users were really confident about their driver
[07:25] <kaot> james_: i got mine going with ndiswrapper, and the only thing I had to do to clean up bcm43xx was blacklist it.
[07:25] <james_> kaot: that is why i am thinking about just reinstalling kubuntu and going from scratch
[07:25] <kaot> james_: they may well be.  I'd like to see them get it working on my laptop.
[07:26] <james_> kaot: some seem to think this will all be a part of the next kernel
[07:26] <james_> 2.6.17 or whatever
[07:27] <kaot> james_: eventually.  last I knew bcm drivers were still very much a work in progress.  i mean you have to use fwcutter to get stuff out of windows files yourself to get them working half the time.
[07:27] <tritium> rtux: yes, here.  Please use my nick, so I notice the highlight
[07:27] <james_> yeah
[07:27] <kaot> that's um... not smooth.
[07:27] <james_> definitely not
[07:27] <whiter> anyone know how i can downgrade xorg
[07:27] <rtux> ok, I will do my best tritium.
[07:28] <james_> kaot: so you don't think that reinstalling is a bad idea either, huh??
[07:28] <tritium> whiter: why?
[07:28] <james_> i will hate to have to do it, but....
[07:28] <rockzman> What is the best terminal Emulator for a good appearance ?
[07:28] <rtux> tritium: This is what I said earlier: I was trying to see the system log to find out what's the reason for occasional freezing of my system. I found this error somewhere I thought maybe it's the reason.
[07:28] <NineTails> sup?
[07:28] <whiter> tritium because the older version supports my video card and this one doesnt
[07:28] <Ackeubu_> Hey how do i edit mp3 tags in a simple way??
[07:28] <NineTails> no
[07:28] <whiter> the drivers werent ported
[07:28] <tritium> whiter: really?  which card?
[07:28] <hawkaloogie> Ackeubu_, I use easytag
[07:28] <kaot> james_: you probably don't have to do it, and it probably won't work anyway.
[07:28] <tritium> rtux: I see.
[07:28] <james_> hmmm
[07:29] <kaot> james_: i didn't have to reinstall
[07:29] <whiter> an old S3 Trio
[07:29] <rockzman> Can anyone answer me what is the best terminal emulator for a good appearance
[07:29] <kaot> matter of fact i upgraded and mucked my stuff all up because i had both ndiswrapper and bcm43xx configs laying around and still got it to work
[07:29] <kaot> it's just a hair-pulling pain is all
[07:29] <whiter> maybe i can use the hoary repositories to install xorg again
[07:29] <james_> LOL
[07:29] <whiter> think that would work?
[07:29] <Ackeubu_> hawkaloogie thanks
[07:29] <tritium> whiter: not even xserver-xorg-driver-s3 ?
[07:29] <whiter> nope tritium
[07:30] <james_> well, i had better go to bed, i'llwork on all of this tomorrow
[07:30] <tritium> whiter: nor xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge?
[07:30] <whiter> none
[07:30] <kaot> james_: good luck
[07:30] <james_> kaot: i appreciate all of the help
[07:30] <whiter> heh
[07:30] <james_> ty
[07:30] <KenSentMe> rockzman: what's wrong with the standard terminals in (k)ubuntu?
[07:30] <james_> good night
[07:30] <rtux> tritium: no idea? :) you recommend anyone to help me?
[07:30] <whiter> i think im just gonna use the hoary repositories after i uninstall xorg
[07:30] <whiter> and install the old one
[07:30] <bur[n] er> haory?  you mean breezy/
[07:30] <tritium> rtux: what symptoms are you having?
[07:31] <whiter> no i ment hoary
[07:31] <bur[n] er> wow... so old
[07:31] <whiter> im using breezy right now
[07:31] <bur[n] er> use dapper :)
[07:31] <whiter> it doesnt matter
[07:31] <rtux> just freezing system from time to time.
[07:31] <whiter> dapper doesnt work for it either
[07:31] <bur[n] er> breezy's all old now ;)
[07:31] <rtux> just freezing system from time to time tritium
[07:31] <whiter> yes, thats my point
[07:31] <tritium> rtux: it would be best to look at the logs at the time of the freeze
[07:31] <bur[n] er> s3 trio... that doesn't work on dapper?  you sure?
[07:32] <whiter> yes
[07:32] <whiter> positive
[07:32] <tritium> rtux: next time that happens, note the time, and check the log files for messages near that timestamp
[07:32] <whiter> mine doesnt anyway, its cause the drivers werent ported
[07:32] <tritium> whiter: I would think that it is
[07:32] <bur[n] er> whiter: file a bug on launchpad?
[07:32] <whiter> theres already a few
[07:32] <whiter> its a known issue...
[07:32] <rtux> I did that tritium. You know what I saw? This: Jul  4 20:31:21 rtux-desktop -- MARK --
[07:32] <tritium> whiter: try to use periods, and not enter.  thanks...
[07:33] <rtux> tritium: That was all I could see at the time of freeze before rebooting
[07:33] <tritium> rtux: that doesn't telll me much
[07:33] <InnerFIRE> when will flash be updated for linux.. this is intolerable..
[07:33] <jorgeu> when the cows fly
[07:34] <rtux> tritium: do you think if I loaded system kernel modules it will help my system?
[07:34] <KenSentMe> InnerFIRE: i thought in 2007 there will be flash 9 for linux or something
[07:34] <tritium> InnerFIRE: nothing we can do about that
[07:34] <InnerFIRE> so what do us linux users do when we are on websites that require flash 8
[07:34] <tritium> rtux: no
[07:34] <jorgeu> remember that now macromedia is owned by adobe
[07:34] <InnerFIRE> well.. they are saying that they will go straight to 8.5
[07:34] <KenSentMe> InnerFIRE: i use Internet Explorer for linux ies4linux
[07:34] <rtux> tritium: that doesn't tell me much either :P
[07:34] <jorgeu> adobe doesn't care much about linux
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> ill check that out..
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> i installed firefox for windows.. using wine..
[07:35] <omglazers> Anyone here know anything about installing ubuntu and somehow changing the partitions manually if I don't have a program to do it automatically?
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> but it always shuts down randomly
[07:35] <InnerFIRE> its annoying
[07:35] <KenSentMe> InnerFIRE: check here, it worked for me, with flash 8 http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[07:36] <jorgeu> omglazers: cheked if still exists the expert install
[07:37] <jorgeu> omglazers: ?
[07:37] <InnerFIRE> thanx
[07:37] <tritium> omglazers: you can do that with the standard installer
[07:37] <omglazers> tritium: The installer has some way of editing partitions I think but I have no clue how to do it and cant find a tutorial and im afraid to mess with it
[07:38] <tritium> omglazers: choose to manually partition, and it's fairly straightforward
[07:38] <Ackeubu_> hawkaloogie I dont get it. i mark a group of songs and write the artists name. i save the files and the tags are not updated... >(
[07:38] <omglazers> tritium: is there a tutoria you could point me to online
[07:39] <tritium> omglazers: not that I'm aware of
[07:39] <hawkaloogie> Ackeubu_, when you do a group you have to hit the little button on the right of the field
[07:39] <hawkaloogie> that will update ALL of the selected records
[07:39] <hawkaloogie> then you save, and then it works
[07:39] <Ackeubu_> hawkaloogie aaah thnaks
[07:40] <fightingfriends> where can I find logos of ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu?
[07:41] <crimsun> fightingfriends: in the artwork packages.
[07:41] <fightingfriends> crimsun: I'm not using ubuntu yet
[07:41] <crimsun> fightingfriends: it doesn't matter.
[07:41] <Phoul> anyone have skype working?
[07:41] <fightingfriends> crimsun: where are the packages?
[07:42] <Phoul> im trying to get skype working for me but i keep getting the same issue when running it
[07:42] <Phoul> The device is busy
[07:42] <crimsun> fightingfriends: CC.archive.ubuntu.com. Look for \*artwork\* on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:42] <fightingfriends> thanks crimsun
[07:43] <crimsun> fightingfriends: np
[07:43] <Phoul> Anyone know about skype? I really need to use it but i cant currently because of this "device busy" issue
[07:43] <JDStone1> happy 4th of july.  Question.  I noticed that BIND in Ubuntu dapper doesn't include the 'rndc' utility.  why is that?
[07:43] <piya_undergroun> can anyone to create a dailup connention using bluetooth
[07:44] <JDStone1> piya_undergroun: I believe that is possible
[07:45] <crimsun> JDStone1: I'm pretty sure that's in bind9.
[07:45] <JDStone1> crimsun: I don't have the utility
[07:45] <JDStone1> I thought so too
[07:45] <crimsun> !find rndc
[07:45] <ubotu> No packages matching 'rndc' could be found
[07:45] <crimsun> argh
[07:45] <piya_undergroun> jdstone if any MAN pages on bluetooth or any notes onconfiguring blueetooth modem
[07:45] <JDStone1> and I have dnsutils installed
[07:45] <Phoul> gah can anyone at all help me please this is a issue
[07:45] <JDStone1> piya_undergroun: sorry, no idea
[07:46] <Heretic> Hey all
[07:46] <rgg> hey.
[07:46] <JDStone1> ubotu: any ideas why I don't have it
[07:46] <Heretic> Im having trouble with my install
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about any ideas why I don't have it
[07:46] <crimsun> JDStone1: they're definitely there.
[07:46] <Heretic> what do i burn the ISO in?
[07:46] <JDStone1> hmm
[07:46] <Heretic> Do i have to burn it at a specific speed?
[07:46] <crimsun> JDStone1:
[07:46] <crimsun> crimsun@garnish:/tmp/merges$ dpkg-deb -c /var/cache/apt/archives/bind9_1%3a9.3.2-2ubuntu1_i386.deb |grep 'bin/rndc'
[07:46] <crimsun> -rwxr-xr-x root/root     20128 2006-02-16 09:39:34 ./usr/sbin/rndc
[07:46] <JDStone1> hmm
[07:47] <JDStone1> i should have it then
[07:47] <rgg> is there any software or configuration or anything that can work as an alarm clock?
[07:47] <robnyc> !ati
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <Heretic> Any ideas guys?
[07:48] <JDStone1> crimsun: what package is that?  BIND9 package?
[07:48] <Healot> you can do it with either i)cdrecord ii) k3b iii)gnomebaker iv)xcdroast >> Heretic
[07:48] <Healot> in Windows, there is always Nero burning rom or freeware like burn-at-once
[07:49] <Heretic> thanks Healot is that on windows?
[07:49] <Heretic> causei m on windows lol
[07:49] <Heretic> i get this error with nero Healot
[07:49] <JDStone1> crimsun: I don't have the 3a9.3.2-2ubuntu1_i386.deb package anywhere on my comp
[07:49] <KenSentMe> !burniso > Heretic
[07:50] <Paladine> heretic was a good game
[07:51] <crimsun> JDStone1: grab the deb.
[07:51] <JDStone1> where?
[07:51] <Healot> Heretic: what would that be?
[07:51] <crimsun> JDStone1: sudo apt-get --reinstall -d install bind9
[07:52] <JDStone1> thanks
[07:52] <Heretic> "the entered block size does not correspond to the image length, the block size may be wrong. Do you want to correct the value? or ignore the problem"
[07:52] <Heretic> thats what i get when i try to burn it in nero.
[07:52] <Heretic> when i open to the image to burn it
[07:53] <Heretic> so i tried ignoring it and it says that the disk is stuffed at the ubunutu screen and theres a button saying "Reboot"
[07:53] <Heretic> and thats all i can press.
[07:54] <rtux> Can anybody tell me if that IS normal?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17221
[07:54] <JDStone1> I still don't have the deb
[07:54] <JDStone1> I searched for it
[07:55] <vincenz> how do I make my laptop start in init2 by default
[07:56] <rtux> Can anybody tell me if that IS normal?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17221
[07:56] <Heretic> any ideas Healot
[07:56] <Seveas> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOODMOOOOOOOOOORNING #ubuntu!
[07:56] <Healot> Heretic: have you checkout the MD5 checksum of the ISO image?
[07:56] <Healot> sounds like a corrupt ISO image to me
[07:56] <HedgeMage> Hehe... Good morning Seveas (or is that Robin Williams in disguise?)
[07:56] <Heretic> no how do i do that Healot?
[07:57] <Healot> in windows, google for md5sum
[07:57] <RobNyc_C> http://www.ycgf.org/
[07:57] <Seveas> HedgeMage, that'd be a very good disguise, no one would recognize me as Robin
[07:57] <Healot> then run md5sum <iso image> and compare the value that is available at the ubuntu website, Heretic
[07:58] <Healot> if the values don't doesn't match, your ISO is broken
[07:58] <Seveas> rtux, looks ok
[07:58] <Healot> !md5
[07:58] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:58] <Seveas> vincenz, it already does =)
[07:58] <Healot> or follow that verifyisohowto link... Heretic
[07:58] <rtux> Seveas,  you think that it's not better to use fglrx's AGP support?
[07:59] <Seveas> not if it would cause conflicts
[07:59] <Healot> the entered block size does not correspond to the image length >> i believe corrupt iso image caused this... Heretic
[07:59] <rtux> how would I know if it will or not ? :|
[07:59] <vincenz> Seveas: no it boots in init 5 (or 6).  The thing is that my battery charger died so I'd prefer it not wasting all that battery pwoer to launch X
[07:59] <erikh> is this a good place to ask questions about libglib-dev and libgtk-dev?
[07:59] <Seveas> vincenz, x == init 2
[08:00] <Seveas> (init 6 is reboot)
[08:00] <Seveas> erikh, sure
[08:00] <JDStone1> ok, I found the rndc utility
[08:00] <JDStone1> now whaT?
[08:00] <erikh> err, nm
[08:00] <erikh> sorry to bother
[08:00] <Seveas> erikh, hehe
[08:04] <JDStone1> crimsun: thanks, i got it
[08:04] <xx_xx_> anyone know where there are free excel spreadsheets with geodata or location street data available?
[08:05] <Seveas> xx_xx_, this is an Ubuntu support channel, for other subjects, please use more appropriate channels
[08:05] <xx_xx_> my bad
[08:05] <woman> any body home?
[08:06] <woman> joined the room plze
[08:06] <Seveas> woman, ?
[08:07] <sn00p> How do I install a .bin file in ubuntu?
[08:07] <Seveas> sn00p, convert it to iso with bchunk and mount it
[08:07] <Seveas> !iso > sn00p
[08:07] <sn00p> Its google earth
[08:07] <Seveas> ah, that's a different story
[08:08] <sn00p> any ideas?
[08:08] <Seveas> sn00p, sh googleearth.bin
[08:08] <vincenz> on another note, this is a bit OT, but...I have to set my proxy in skype, however the options is disabled (I guess until you're logged in), this seems to be a bit of a chicken-egg problem
[08:09] <sn00p> Seveas, ahh ok thanks
[08:09] <cyphase> :)
[08:09] <sn00p> ahh, this is neat, google earth for linux
[08:11] <RedSkies> I successfully installed Dapper Drake 6.06 Server... After that, i rebooted my computer and selected to load ubuntu in my GRUB bootloader, after it displayed the word "boot", my computer suddenly restarts itself... i can't load my ubuntu partition... help
[08:11] <cryptid> how should i open .exe files in linux.plz help?
[08:11] <hawkaloogie> cryptid, wine
[08:12] <RememberPOL> LOL google earth for linux sweeeet
[08:12] <Seveas> hawkaloogie, red or white?
[08:12] <hawkaloogie> Seveas, chardonney is white, no?
[08:12] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:what is wine?
[08:12] <RedSkies> google it cryptid
[08:12] <RedSkies> :)
[08:13] <hawkaloogie> cryptid, wine is windows emulator, or wine is not an emulator, or the only way to run windows binaries in linux
[08:13] <RedSkies> anyone here who can help me with my server problem?
[08:14] <bur[n] er> RememberPOL: there's picasa for linux now :)
[08:14] <RedSkies> I'm now beginning to install the Server edition for the 3rd time...
[08:14] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:after intalling it can i open .exe files?
[08:15] <hawkaloogie> cryptid, tias, Try It And See, the best way to find if something works.
[08:15] <RedSkies> anyone who know's things about Ubuntu's Server? -_- I could really use some help
[08:16] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:thank you!
[08:16] <Seveas> RedSkies, what's the problem?
[08:17] <RedSkies> i can't load my server
[08:17] <RedSkies> from grub
[08:17] <RedSkies> After choosing my Ubuntu Server Partition in the GRUB Bootloader, it loads the partition and displays messages including "boot" then after then, it restarts my computer...
[08:17] <Wiseguy> hey guys, whats the default root password?
[08:18] <bvali> your user password
[08:18] <Wiseguy> hmm i tried that and it failed
[08:18] <bvali> use sudo
[08:18] <Lynoure> !sudo
[08:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:18] <RedSkies> Wiseguy, have you even tried enabling the root account in Ubuntu?
[08:18] <Flannel> Wiseguy: there is no root password.
[08:18] <Jim_the_Coder> ubuntu doesnt have a root account by default
[08:18] <Flannel> !tell Wiseguy about root
[08:18] <Lynoure> Wiseguy: and the password sudo wants in your own
[08:18] <Flannel> Wiseguy: that page talks all about it
[08:19] <RedSkies> root user in Ubuntu is disabled by default
[08:19] <RedSkies> anyway, back to my server problem..... can anyone help me with it.... ? :(
[08:23] <watson540> hey does anyone know how top get rid of these pesky desktop icons in gnome?
[08:23] <Jim_the_Coder> can u be more specific?
[08:23] <RedSkies> delete?
[08:24] <RedSkies> lolz
[08:24] <maagimies> watson540, perhaps delete them? :]
[08:24] <watson540> nooo
[08:24] <watson540> I guess i could move them though
[08:24] <revilot> does anyone know anything about getting a creative prodikeys keyboard recognized in ubuntu
[08:24] <cef> watson540: which icons are you referring to?
[08:24] <Flannel> watson540: you really just need to be more specific
[08:24] <maagimies> watson540, and if your talking about the device icons, you can set nautilus not to display them by gconf-editor
[08:25] <watson540> well i juxst wanted an optin like in windows just to shgut off the whole icon thing altogether
[08:25] <Flannel> revilot: you talking about the keyboard working at all? or extra keys on it? or what?
[08:26] <revilot> Flannel: the extra keys
[08:26] <Seveas> mornin' lilo
[08:26] <Flannel> revilot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[08:27] <revilot> Flannel: sorry I should have mentioned the extra keys im talking about are like keyboard keys
[08:28] <Flannel> revilot: what?  That page should still work.
[08:28] <Flannel> revilot: oh, midi keyboard?
[08:28] <revilot> Flannel: ya sry
[08:28] <cef> watson540: are you talking destop, or toolbar?
[08:29] <Heretic_01> Hey guys
[08:29] <Heretic_01> im back
[08:29] <Heretic_01> someone stole my nick :@
[08:29] <Heretic_01> Healot mate, the checksums are different :(
[08:29] <Heretic_01> thats bad isnt it/
[08:29] <Seveas> Heretic_01, not anymore
[08:29] <Seveas> <-- Heretic has quit (Connection timed out)
[08:29] <revilot> Flannel: would that page still be applicable?
[08:30] <Healot> Heretic_01: hum I guess download the "ISO again?
[08:30] <Heretic_01> yeah
[08:30] <Heretic_01> should i not use a download manager this time :S
[08:30] <Flannel> revilot: couldn't hurt to try.
[08:30] <cef> Heretic_01: or use rsync
[08:31] <revilot> Flannel: thx ill do that.  Thanks for the link
[08:31] <Heretic_01> whats rsync?
[08:31] <cef> Heretic_01: which iso are you downloading?
[08:31] <Jim_the_Coder> check the md5 values on ur iso disks
[08:31] <rpedro> Heretic_01: you getting the livecd or alternate install
[08:31] <Heretic_01> 0D94CA1DB8D8AC83063E28B60E9061AC *ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:31] <Heretic_01> sorry about the checksum
[08:32] <Heretic_01> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[08:32] <Heretic_01> For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
[08:32] <Heretic_01> that one.
[08:32] <cef> Heretic_01: rsync works by comparing the differences in the files and only sending the differences. you need to point rsync at a valid rsync server for it to work, and preferrably have a version of the file you're trying to update
[08:33] <Heretic_01> hmmm
[08:33] <Heretic_01> I might just download the ISO again
[08:33] <Heretic_01> and not use a download manager this time
[08:34] <Heretic_01> just use firefox
[08:34] <Heretic_01> do you reckon i'll be right?
[08:34] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I'm trying to use xvfb-run for a program I need to run from a webpage. I've been googling for an xvfb tutorial, but I can't find any, and the man page hasn't been much help. I'm merely running the program with the command "xvfb-run program"; is that the correct way to use xvfb-run or am I missing something?
[08:35] <Heretic_01> Alright im off, will bbl guys
[08:35] <Heretic_01> Thansk for the help
[08:35] <Heretic_01> im laggin to hell!
[08:35] <Heretic_01> bbl
[08:35] <jme> !enter
[08:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:35] <sn00p> there is a web site that I goto that requires windows media player, How can I change the default mediaplayer so firefox can use a different media player since you dont have media player on linux?
[08:38] <anosa> how to open password protected .rar file?? i've used unrar, >$unrar -e filename.rar but nothing happened
[08:39] <whitepyro> Is there a better irc client then this gaim p.o.s. :D
[08:39] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/79331 can anyone tell me whats wrong with this config
[08:39] <Flannel> whitepyro: xchat
[08:40] <bvali> anosa: unrar e -p filename.rar
[08:40] <bvali> not sure it works
[08:40] <blocky> anyone got any idea why my electric guitar is only coming out of the right headphone when i plug it into my computer?
[08:41] <WarOfAttrition> I like konversation
[08:41] <rpedro> blocky: you probably need to set some volumes in  the volume control app
[08:41] <WarOfAttrition> xchat needs a tray agent
[08:41] <sn00p> I'm working the mplayer-plugin for firefox, it wont play the video of the mms stream how come?
[08:41] <whitepyro_> ah  this is better
[08:41] <whitepyro_> :D
[08:42] <necrite> mm any one can helpme with xgl.. in ubuntu-xgl noone write anything
[08:42] <YondaII> Hi guys I'm using NetworkManager with a wireless network, but it drops out at random times. I can't find out whats causing this!
[08:42] <RedSkies> argh
[08:43] <RedSkies> i cant load this ubuntu server
[08:43] <whitepyro> i'm a linux noob and this probably is simple. How can I make a shortcut to my /var/www dir? :D
[08:43] <whitepyro> whats the prob red?
[08:43] <RedSkies> i can't load my Ubuntu Server partition
[08:43] <anosa>  bvali: anosa: unrar e -p filename.rar >>> thanx a lot, it works
[08:43] <blocky> rpedro, im running e17 but i have gnome installed
[08:44] <blocky> everything looks okay in alsamixer afaik
[08:44] <blocky> any suggestions?
[08:44] <RedSkies> after selecting my ubuntu server partition from GRUB, it loads the server up to the "boot" part then it restarts my computer....
[08:44] <rpedro> blocky: alsamixer will do
[08:44] <whitepyro> so grub is loading?
[08:44] <RedSkies> yup
[08:44] <jme> whitepyro, what sort of shortcut do you want -- a GNOME shortcut?  Ez to have a short cut to just open that dir so i can continue to program :D
[08:45] <whitepyro> Sounds like a bad kernal
[08:46] <whitepyro> I had that happen after i updated..
[08:46] <RedSkies> ?
[08:46] <whitepyro> But it just said can't mount
[08:46] <whitepyro> hehe
[08:46] <RedSkies> it does mount
[08:46] <RedSkies> but
[08:46] <RedSkies> it restarts my computer
[08:46] <Ikaru1> I recently tried installing google picasa, and whenever I launch it the the program goes black.  I tried looking things up on the forum with no luck. any ideas or suggestions?
[08:46] <xukun> this is realy very anoughing since I upgraded to dapper printing is not working
[08:46] <jme> whitepyro, ln -s
[08:46] <NineTails> hi
[08:46] <whitepyro> ln -s /var/www
[08:46] <whitepyro> ?
[08:46] <whitepyro> like that?
[08:47] <RedSkies> its great that all you're problems are associated with a "working" ubuntu installation.. heck, i cant even load my ubuntu
[08:47] <Flannel> RedSkies: try booting to your old kernel
[08:47] <RedSkies> i dont have a new kernel
[08:47] <whitepyro> ah thx jme
[08:47] <whitepyro> :D
[08:47] <whitepyro> did u use the desktop version or server iso?
[08:47] <jme> whitepyro, use the man pages
[08:48] <RedSkies> i used the SERVER
[08:48] <whitepyro> My server iso did not work so i did the desktop and setup the server by hand
[08:48] <Flannel> RedSkies: oh, right. sorry, crossed two messages.  Yeah, how'd you install?  Server iso? or, Alternate ISO with server selected?
[08:48] <RedSkies> i burned the ISO to my cd
[08:48] <RedSkies> Server ISO
[08:48] <kitten-> So like, I've got a bunch of mp3s on my Windows machine, but I can't play them in xmms direct from the SMB share because, apparently, xmms doesn't speak smb.  Anyone have any suggestions other than opening stuff in totem?
[08:49] <Flannel> RedSkies: sounds like a bad install, it happens.  try reinstalling.
[08:49] <RedSkies> ive tried reinstalling for the 5th time
[08:49] <YondaII> Hi guys I'm using NetworkManager with a wireless network, but it drops out at random times. I can't find out whats causing this! What could be causing it and how can I stop it from doing it?
[08:49] <whitepyro> my xmms works with mp3s :D
[08:49] <blocky> is there any way to set alsa in 'mono' mode, to mix all the channels
[08:50] <WarOfAttrition> kitten-: suggestion? copy them to the linux system
[08:50] <kitten-> WarOfAttrition: Yeah, the idea is to not have to do that. :P
[08:50] <WarOfAttrition> or use a better xmms based player like Audacious
[08:50] <cryptid> hawkaloogie:after installing wine how do i open an .exe file.plz help?
[08:50] <RedSkies> argh
[08:50] <rpedro_> blocky: have tried upping the volume and unmute (press M) on the mic and line channels?
[08:51] <WarOfAttrition> kitten-: well that's a nitpick, xmms sucks anyways
[08:51] <kitten-> I like xmms.
[08:51] <RedSkies> simple problems like the how-to stuff can be solved by Google searching or this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:52] <WarOfAttrition> xmms had it's day, but it's way too outdated now
[08:52] <WarOfAttrition> use beep-media-player or audacious
[08:56] <jme> Anyone with experience installing the Atmel firmware?
[08:56] <Teejay_wp> hi
[08:56] <Teejay_wp> I am new to Ubuntu how do I upgrade via the web from Ubuntu 5.10 to the latest version?
[08:56] <rpedro> blocky: or you can install gnome-alsamixer > 'sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer'
[08:57] <rpedro> blocky: it has a 'mix mono' option, dunno if it works though
[08:57] <Flannel> Teejay_wp: gksudo update-manager
[08:57] <Flannel> Teejay_wp: you should be asked if you want to upgrade
[08:59] <cubikdice> hey guys, is there anything i can configure so ubuntu wont ask for the CDROM to be incerted when i try to apt-install a program? this is on a server install of ubuntu breezy
[08:59] <Flannel> cubikdice: remove the CDrom from your repositories
[09:00] <RedSkies> hay
[09:01] <cubikdice> thanks
[09:02] <coopster> Does anyone have a good howto or info on how to play 3gp videos under ubuntu?  i can't find anything on the forums or google
[09:03] <LIMESERVER> w00t
[09:03] <LIMESERVER> hanks Flannel
[09:03] <squiggly> anyone know if the jetaudio X5 works on ubuntu?
[09:04] <squiggly> (or is accessible
[09:04] <squiggly> )
[09:04] <spades> jetaudio or iaudio?
[09:04] <squiggly> jetaudio
[09:05] <squiggly> the jetaudio iaudio x5 basically
[09:05] <squiggly> same thing
[09:05] <spades> yea, it mounts like any harddrive
[09:05] <squiggly> very good :)
[09:05] <spades> just mount it and navigate to the music folder or wherever you need to go
[09:06] <YondaII> Hi guys I'm using NetworkManager with a wireless network, but it drops out at random times. I can't find out whats causing this! What could be causing it and how can I stop it from doing it?
[09:07] <BeanBag> How can I get NTOP to work on ubuntu?
[09:07] <cubikdice> whats a good lite window manager window manager for a server install?
[09:08] <polpak> cubikdice: fluxbox is pretty minimal
[09:08] <concept10> cubikdice, bash shell :)
[09:08] <compengi> i want to compile a sources for a game flightgear how do i do it?
[09:09] <cubikdice> polpak, achully i just installed openbox..but i dont know how to run it...it needs a display..so now i guess i'll install gdm..?
[09:10] <YondaII> Can anyone recommend a good mp3 tag editor?
[09:10] <someothernick> compengi: sudo apt-get install flightgear
[09:10] <compengi> hey someothernick
[09:10] <someothernick> hi
[09:14] <cyphase> there needs to be a project that only packages games
[09:15] <rpedro> YondaII: easytag , or ex falso, for gnome
[09:15] <cyphase> Nexuiz, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, etc
[09:16] <YondaII> rpedro, thanks
[09:25] <Trackilizer> I have a FAT32 drive for data and an NTFS drive for windows, i can accses the data drive with no problems but everytime i try to go onto the NTFS drive which is mounted as "hda1" i get a message saging i don't have permison.
[09:25] <Trackilizer> How do i change this?
[09:26] <bvali> check fstab
[09:26] <maagimies> Trackilizer, in the fstab entry of the ntfs drive, add "umask=0000"
[09:26] <bvali> you must have an umask for the NTFS partition
[09:26] <Healot> change the "defaults" with the option "umask=xxxx" <<
[09:26] <bvali> umask=0 should do :D
[09:27] <maagimies> :p
[09:27] <Trackilizer> And how exatly do i accses the "fstab"
[09:27] <Healot> for NTFS "ro,umask=0222"
[09:27] <bvali> the file is located in /etc/fstab
[09:27] <maagimies> Trackilizer, its a file, /etc/fstab
[09:27] <Trackilizer> OK, thanks
[09:27] <Healot> for FAT32 rw,umask=0000 or rw,umask=0
[09:28] <bvali> you could add users too... like "rw,umask=0,users" if i remember
[09:28] <Trackilizer> So, do i add "umask=0000" under <dump> or <pass>?
[09:32] <Trackilizer> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=0         0       0
[09:33] <Trackilizer> That's what i have now, but it still won't work
[09:33] <bvali> u must remount it
[09:34] <Healot> umount and mount again
[09:34] <dli> Trackilizer, add uid= , gid= to the options
[09:34] <nxvl> hi
[09:35] <nxvl> i have a laptop with no floppie discs drive and a fuck'd up CD-ROM drive, and i need toisntall Ubuntu un it
[09:35] <nxvl> i have think on installing it via netboot using PXE, but i dont find any manuals
[09:35] <Healot> do you have a NIC
[09:35] <cryptid> how do i open rm to mp3 converter.lnk file.plz help?
[09:35] <nxvl> whats that?
[09:36] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation >> Follow the next link on that page, nxvl
[09:36] <llama32> what's the name of that user-mode filesystem module? is it [likely to be]  installed by default on most modern distros?
[09:36] <nxvl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[09:37] <nxvl> here? i need floppies for that
[09:37] <Trackilizer> I used the "sudo mount -a" commad to remount, but i still can't accses
[09:37] <Healot> nxvl: no... just boot from LAN
[09:37] <nxvl> ok
[09:37] <Healot> just like your Solaris lab does
[09:37] <nxvl> i was a little confused cause there it says floppies
[09:37] <Healot> you need another PC with NIC too... that has the installer running
[09:38] <bvali> Trackilizer: paste the line with the NTFS partition from fstab
[09:38] <dli> Healot, do you know this howto works for USB stick? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:38] <Trackilizer> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=000       0       0
[09:38] <nxvl> Healot: whats NIC?
[09:39] <bvali> and the rw?
[09:39] <Healot> info NIC - Network Interface Card
[09:39] <Trackilizer> That's all the is to the line.
[09:39] <Healot> dli: it should, but a lot of hard work :)
[09:40] <bvali> try it like this: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs rw,users,umask=0 0 0
[09:40] <dli> Healot, I tried once, but the linuxrc failed in finding the livecd root, after seeking /dev/hd* , while it should be looking for /dev/sd*
[09:40] <cryptid> how do i open .lnk files.plz help?
[09:40] <bvali> .Ink are windows shortcuts right?
[09:41] <cryptid> bvali:ya.how do i open them?
[09:41] <bvali> you can't :P
[09:41] <Trackilizer> bvali, still won't work.
[09:42] <bvali> Trackilizer: umount /dev/hda1 and then `mount -a`
[09:42] <llama32> bvali: isn't it .lnk? seems more logical for a link...
[09:43] <bvali> :)
[09:43] <Healot> that sounds like Windows shortcut
[09:43] <bvali> it is one
[09:43] <Healot> IT IS Windows shortcut
[09:44] <bvali> most of the windows software installed via wine will put 2 shortcuts to the desktop. One will be .lnk (not valid :D ) and one will be the good one
[09:44] <Trackilizer> bvali, that did the trick
[09:44] <bvali> good :D
[09:44] <Trackilizer> Thank you very much
[09:44] <Trackilizer> !!
[09:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[09:44] <bvali> np
[09:44] <bvali> although a .lnk file is elligible for linux shortcuts since linux doesn't care about extensions
[09:45] <w0j> hmm
[09:45] <w0j> hello
[09:45] <w0j> why do i hawe ipv6 thats work poorrly :)
[09:45] <w0j> can i remove them and setup my own tunnel ?
[09:46] <snoops> how can I bind mouse buttons to other mouse buttons in dapper?
[09:47] <Jurgeni> I have ubuntu installed on laptop, when I play a DVD with totem just after computer has started it works fine, but when I try it after waking up from suspend it starts to play but then there is only blank screen. After reboot it is all right again. Any ideas why?
[09:47] <dxdemetriou> The sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart doesn't work on Dapper. What can I do?
[09:48] <scheuri> hi all
[09:48] <w0j> Jurgeni: instalen mplayer no gui :=)
[09:48] <dli> Jurgeni, can you run glxgears after suspending
[09:49] <Jurgeni> dli: have to try..
[09:49] <w0j> bhha
[09:49] <Jurgeni> w0j: that's not solving the actual problem ;)
[09:49] <w0j> can i remove my ipv6 stuff ?
[09:49] <george_looney> hello all
[09:49] <w0j> Jurgeni: mplayer is the solation on meny probs
[09:49] <w0j> :P
[09:50] <w0j> bha
[09:50] <w0j> cant spell
[09:50] <george_looney> how do I disable 'root' the way it was originally on install in Dapper
[09:50] <dli> !root > george_looney
[09:50] <blocky> !root > blocky
[09:51] <Jurgeni> dli: it works fine
[09:52] <dli> Jurgeni, then it seems to be a totem bug :(
[09:52] <dli> Jurgeni, or gnome bug
[09:53] <Jurgeni> yep...
[09:53] <Jurgeni> maybe I should still try that mplayer :)
[09:53] <w0j> hmm
[09:53] <george_looney> thanks dli
[09:54] <w0j> why do i hawe ipv6 in my ifconfig :o
[09:54] <dli> w0j, comment it out :)
[09:54] <scheuri> w0j: its standard AFAIK
[09:54] <Jurgeni> I think it is totem, because although I close the gui after hanging the process still remains and I have to kill it
[09:54] <w0j> OK
[09:55] <bvali> w0j check /etc/sysctl.conf for ipv6 stuff and /etc/networking(orsomething)
[09:55] <w0j> bvali:  thanks
[09:55] <londondave> hi all, I'm still struggling with building eagle-usb driver for linux, it's for the sagem fast 800 modem, configure script can just not find the kernel-source
[09:55] <Healot> !linux-source
[09:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-source
[09:55] <Healot> !info linux-source
[09:55] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:56] <Kobalt_67> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[09:56] <dli> londondave, do you have linux-headers?
[09:56] <londondave> i have the source installed, the headers installed all of build-essential I am totally stumped
[09:57] <dli> londondave, since you have both linux-source and headers installed, I suspect you installed the wrong copy of linux-headers
[09:57] <hangfire> every time I try and lower the res on ubuntu, after entering my user name and password it goes back to the old res. Anyone know why?
[09:57] <Healot> !info m-a
[09:57] <Kobalt_67> londondave, you know that eagle-usb isn't working well under Dapper ?
[09:57] <ubotu> Package m-a does not exist in dapper
[09:58] <Healot> !info module-assistant
[09:58] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:58] <dli> londondave, you need only one of them, linux-source (custom built kernel), or linux-headers (pre-built)
[09:58] <dli> ! fixres > hangfire
[09:59] <kOpter> My Z key is not working :) I can type a capital Z, but not a small one.  The key works fine in Windows...
[09:59] <ompaul> hangfire, there is a little tick box that says "make default"
[09:59] <londondave> dli: so I don't need the kernel source If i have the correct linux-headers?
[09:59] <kOpter> Could anything be bound to it?
[09:59] <dli> londondave, if you don't build your kernel, you don't need linux-source
[09:59] <hangfire> thanks bigtime dli
[10:00] <w0j> bvali:  thanks
[10:00] <bvali> np :d
[10:00] <ompaul> !test
[10:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[10:00] <dli> tsume, you got too many friends? or it's a business?
[10:00] <londondave> dli: thanks it's the dapper prebuilt kernel, so I just need the corrosponding headers package, if I do 'uname -r' and get exactly that linux-headers package it should build?
[10:00] <hangfire> and thx JackS
[10:00] <tsume> dli: business friends, friends, etc
[10:01] <w0j> bvali:  cant find anything to make it only use ipv4 :o
[10:01] <tsume> dli: I'm the type of person who spreads good or bad very easily :)
[10:01] <w0j> bvali: any ideas
[10:01] <dli> londondave, yes, have you tried the m-a way?
[10:01] <vlt> Hello. I have installed (k)ubuntu Dapper and there's one problem that drives me mad: gam_server. There are running gam_server processes for each user and they consume about 20 % of cpu. How can I solve that?
[10:01] <bvali> not really... haven't used ipv6
[10:01] <londondave> dli: whats that?
[10:01] <dli> !m-a > londondave
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about m-a
[10:01] <ompaul> !test
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[10:02] <w0j> :o
[10:02] <tsume> vlt: hmmm, what was gam_server part of?
[10:02] <concept10> anyone know how to get rid of mesa and turn DRI back on for ATI cards using the ati and/or radeon driver?
[10:02] <dli> ! modules-assistant > londondave
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about modules-assistant
[10:02] <JDStone> any idea why when I do 'make menuconfig' over ssh, the menuconfig looks all messed up?
[10:03] <w0j> bvali: where can i find and remowe the buildin ipv6 ?
[10:03] <tsume> oh, gamin
[10:03] <freddyubuntu> I have an AVI file , I want to burn it to CD , so I can watch it with my VCD player.... how can I do it...?
[10:03] <bvali> w0j i have no clue
[10:03] <dli> ! module-assistant > londondave
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about module-assistant
[10:03] <w0j> ok
[10:03] <tsume> hmm, I do remember seeing gamin run, what does it start with I wonder :)
[10:03] <londondave> dli: is modules-assistant a kind of script?
[10:03] <CptAJ> Good evening fine people of the interwebs
[10:04] <ba> cubikdice, you alive?
[10:04] <vlt> tsume: google tells me gamin ...
[10:04] <bvali> v0j: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[10:04] <dli> londondave, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=module-assistant&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[10:04] <Patrick_> hey all, I'm trying to install a package from source in Cygwin, but when I try to do 'make insta'' it gives me an error saying something like no rule target for install.  what package should I install with the cygwin setup to remedy this?
[10:04] <bvali> w0j: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
[10:04] <Patrick_> make install*
[10:04] <freddyubuntu> how to burn an AVI movie to a CD and watch it with VCD ?
[10:04] <JDStone> why would make menuconfig look all distorted when I do it over ssh?
[10:04] <Hexagon> hello
[10:04] <tsume> vlt: yeah, wait ahead :) I just didn't know what gamin was used for
[10:04] <CptAJ> I figured I'd say hi and get acquainted with the place. I dont really have a question yet but I'm sure I will =P
[10:05] <Hexagon> I have Ubuntu Linux but I can't install any applications
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, what are you trying to install?
[10:05] <bvali> how come Hexagon?
[10:05] <Hexagon> Skype, Wine
[10:05] <dli> londondave, yes, after you installed the module-source in /usr/src/modules/ , m-a autos the building process, preferred over make-kpkg modules-image
[10:05] <tsume> vlt: gam_server isn't running on mine right now actually. I remember seeing it, it must have disappeared on me :)
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, www.winehq.com for installation of wine.
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, better yet, use Automatix
[10:05] <Patrick_> Hexagon, search the Ubuntu forums.
[10:05] <vlt> tsume: I think it's the Gnome (wth gnome on Kubuntu?!?) file alteration monitor.
[10:05] <bvali> Hexagon: open a console: Alt+F2, "gnome-terminal"
[10:05] <freddyubuntu> ha ha nobody even looks at me
[10:06] <bvali> or with Synaptic
[10:06] <hawk> kg/am
[10:06] <freddyubuntu> i am so unlike able
[10:06] <tsume> vlt: yeah, I'm running Gnome right now ;)
[10:06] <Patrick_> bvali, Automatix would do much better for him ;)
[10:06] <londondave> so I need to put the eag-usb source in /usr/src/modules
[10:06] <Hexagon> bvali, and?
[10:06] <tsume> vlt: I suppose you're running Breezy?
[10:06] <bvali> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:06] <tsume> erm
[10:06] <tsume> I mean Dapper
[10:06] <bvali> for example
[10:06] <bvali> try what Patrick said
[10:06] <vlt> tsume: no a fresh Dapper stable
[10:06] <tsume> someone slap me :)
[10:06] <Hexagon> I tried this
[10:06] <freddyubuntu> :(
[10:06] <JDStone> why would make menuconfig look all distorted when I do it over ssh?
[10:06] <w0j> bvali: oohh i did that but the wrong way :P
[10:06] <Patrick_> bvali, wine isant in the repository's by default I don't think...
[10:06] <tsume> vlt: it works here :D
[10:07] <bvali> you can enable tons of repositories from Synaptic
[10:07] <dli> londondave, doesn't help, if the source doesn't have scripts for debian/ubuntu
[10:07] <tsume> vlt: did you try updating?
[10:07] <bvali> :D just 2 clicks or something ;))
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> I have an AVI file , I want to burn it to CD , so I can watch it with my VCD player.... how can I do it...?
[10:07] <Patrick_> bvali, if he had a debian package, it would be something like, sudo dpkg -i wine.deb
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> somebody pay attention to me
[10:07] <vlt> tsume: updateing to ehar?
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> or i will sucide
[10:07] <Patrick_> loo
[10:07] <Patrick_> lol
[10:07] <bvali> hehe
[10:07] <vlt> tsume: updateing to what?
[10:07] <bvali> what does google say freddy
[10:07] <Patrick_> I could say the same, freddy....
[10:07] <dli> londondave, how do you build it now? make ?
[10:07] <JDStone> why would make menuconfig look all distorted when I do it over ssh?
[10:07] <tsume> freddyubuntu: 75USD/hr and I'll listen to you ;)
[10:07] <Patrick_> nobody has touched my question
[10:07] <tsume> vlt: fetching updates
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> pl Tsume
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> ok
[10:07] <hawk> who from Russia?
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> TUSME
[10:07] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: easy. convert it to vcd
[10:07] <freddyubuntu> i will pay yo
[10:07] <Hexagon> bvali, can I privmsg you?
[10:08] <freddyubuntu> Toma how to conver it?
[10:08] <freddyubuntu> toma how to convert it?
[10:08] <vlt> tsume: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade?
[10:08] <bvali> of course
[10:08] <tsume> vlt: yeah :)
[10:08] <dli> JDStone, printenv|grep TERM
[10:08] <tsume> dist-upgrade
[10:08] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: get tovid
[10:08] <Patrick_> I'm trying to install a Linux program from source on cygwin, it doesn't have the make install command, well, the make command it has, the install it doesn't, what package should I look for in the cygwin setup to install?
[10:08] <vlt> tsume: every night!
[10:08] <Patrick_> I wanna go to bed damnit
[10:08] <Patrick_> so
[10:08] <Patrick_> can someone answer me
[10:08] <Patrick_> so I can get some sleep
[10:08] <Patrick_> lol
[10:08] <Toma-> !info tovid
[10:08] <tsume> freddyubuntu: you might want to use k3b :)
[10:08] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in dapper
[10:08] <Toma-> doh
[10:08] <JDStone> dli: TERM=ansi
[10:08] <hawk> (_x_)
[10:08] <freddyubuntu> ok
[10:08] <londondave> dli: I have the eagle-usb source in my home directory, unpack it, cd into it and then sudo configure-thats when it stops with kernel-sources not found error
[10:09] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Installing_tovid
[10:09] <Patrick_> *yawns*
[10:09] <freddyubuntu> aha
[10:09] <Patrick_> someone answer my question
[10:09] <Patrick_> so I can SLEEP
[10:09] <dli> JDStone, exit from ssh shell, export TERM=xterm , try again
[10:09] <Patrick_> lol
[10:09] <JDStone> ok, thanks dli
[10:09] <Patrick_> S-L-E-E-P- hard concept over here?
[10:09] <Patrick_> lol
[10:09] <bvali> :D
[10:09] <londondave> tovid id great, don't worry about the gui, just use the command line -its a doddle
[10:09] <Toma-> freddyubuntu: better yet, get this, and run "sudo dpkg -i tovid*"
[10:09] <tsume> tovid looks better though
[10:09] <Patrick_> if anyone here knows absolutly anything about cygwin
[10:09] <concept10> Patrick_, did you configure?
[10:09] <Patrick_> concept, it doesn't have ./configrue...
[10:09] <Patrick_> I don't get it.
[10:10] <Patrick_> what packages should I install?
[10:10] <Patrick_> lol
[10:10] <dli> Patrick_, cygwin is not ubuntu :(
[10:10] <bvali> ./configure is not really necessary :d
[10:10] <Patrick_> dli, I know this
[10:10] <concept10> Patrick_, dont keep asking and asking and lol'ing and asking and lol'ing
[10:10] <bvali> just a makefile
[10:10] <Patrick_> bvali, it /can/ be
[10:10] <trand> can i install ubuntu on macbook?
[10:10] <Patrick_> concept10, don't say anything if you don't intend on answering me.
[10:10] <Patrick_> trand, yes you can.
[10:10] <trand> thanks.
[10:10] <Healot> the same way as you do in x86... trand
[10:10] <bvali> for my info, Macs run on PPC?
[10:10] <JDStone> dli: yep, that looks better, thanks
[10:11] <Patrick_> so....
[10:11] <concept10> Patrick_, I tried to help you!
[10:11] <Madpilot> Patrick_, being rude is unlikely to ge you help faster...
[10:11] <trand> hmm... how about EFI & boot manager ... etc?
[10:11] <jf_> hi all
[10:11] <w0j> bvali: no ipv6 here :o
[10:11] <bvali> :P
[10:11] <Patrick_> madpilot, I wasen't exactly being rude, unless people watn to go off misinterpreating me
[10:11] <w0j> bvali: thanks :)
[10:11] <Patrick_> misinterperating*
[10:11] <vlt> tsume: What is dist-upgrade?
[10:11] <bvali> np
[10:11] <trand> i heard something is needed.
[10:11] <bvali> google did the trick again :D
[10:11] <Patrick_> I merely need some package names
[10:11] <Patrick_> or, what to look for better yet.
[10:11] <bvali> vlt: dist-upgrade will just update your whole system
[10:11] <pinky> I'm using a laptop with an Intel 855GM integrated graphics card and my xorg.conf says the driver is "i810", but projectM runs really slowly fullscreen... BUT all the other libvisual plugins I have run just fine!
[10:11] <pinky> Why is projectM being really really slow, when other libvisual plugins that use 3D rendering are fine?
[10:11] <trand> ah... googling.... :)
[10:11] <trand> got it.
[10:12] <tsume> vlt: apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:12] <dli> Patrick_, what's the error message
[10:12] <pinky> Is it a problem with my video card being too slow?
[10:12] <londondave> Patrick_: you can install on a macbook, but if your macbook uses the ppc chip you need that version
[10:12] <hangfire> JackSparrow- After I restart x windows with the command you sent me, Im left in Bash commandline mode, what do I do from there?
[10:12] <pinky> (which doesn't make sense because I used Milkdrop under Windows which ran FINE fullscreen)
[10:12] <VoX> Patrick_: apt-cache search cygwin
[10:12] <Hexagon> Why I can't install applications using "sudo apt-get install app"
[10:12] <Hexagon> ?
[10:12] <Hexagon> :(
[10:12] <scheuri> Patrick: to find packages names you either use "aptitude search [parts of name] "
[10:12] <vlt> bvali: Isn't it up to date with apt-get update/upgrade?
[10:12] <bvali> what does it say?
[10:12] <Patrick_> VoX, what???
[10:12] <concept10> ubuntu needs another channel
[10:12] <VoX> Patrick_: apt-cache search cygwin
[10:12] <bvali> Hexagon: what does it say?
[10:12] <Hexagon> I wrote you
[10:12] <Patrick_> VoX where would I use that command?
[10:12] <Hexagon> in private
[10:12] <bertugolu> hey someone...i need help
[10:12] <Hexagon> bvali
[10:12] <Patrick_> VoX, I'm not using Ubuntu...
[10:13] <Toma-> concept10: why?
[10:13] <bertugolu> i nstalled ubuntu
[10:13] <dli> Hexagon, what's the error message? " doesn't work" isn't a proper way in asking for support
[10:13] <bvali> i have no pm from you Hexagon
[10:13] <VoX> Patrick_: then wtf are you doing in #ubuntu?
[10:13] <Madpilot> concept10, for what? There are already lots of Ubuntu channels
[10:13] <Patrick_> dli, I'm getting errors like, when I try to run make install, it says no rule target for install.
[10:13] <Hexagon> ok I'll write you here
[10:13] <Patrick_> VoX, its Linux...
[10:13] <hangfire> Hexagon, do you use the 3D program Hexagon?
[10:13] <Hexagon> hexagon@HXG:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[10:13] <Hexagon> Reading package lists... Done
[10:13] <Hexagon> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:13] <Hexagon> You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:
[10:13] <Hexagon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:13] <bertugolu> and them.... it is givimg me an error stating gnub error
[10:13] <Hexagon>   skype: Depends: libqt3-mt but it is not installable or
[10:13] <VoX> oh good lord
[10:13] <Hexagon>                   libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not installable
[10:13] <Hexagon>          Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not going to be installed
[10:13] <Hexagon>   wine: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.5.2-0) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:13] <trand> londondave, i bought intel core macbook.
[10:13] <Hexagon>         Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.10) but 1.0.9-2 is to be installed
[10:13] <Patrick_> VoX, alot of people in here have general knowledge, its not really hard to answer a simple question.
[10:13] <dli> Patrick_, when you do " make " ?
[10:13] <concept10> Toma-, another channel for beginners and more experienced users.  The signal to noise ratio in here is off the rocker
[10:13] <cris> hay alguien ??
[10:13] <Toma-> Patrick_: something like that mean there is no "make install"... READ the README file and see what it has to say
[10:13] <scheuri> Patrick: well, linux is the KERNEL only...ubuntu is a distribution...you might be better off in #cygwin
[10:13] <londondave> hexagon: it told you what to do
[10:14] <hangfire> cris, estoy aqui
[10:14] <Patrick_> dli, I cd'ed to the folder that contained the makefile and did make
[10:14] <bvali> Hexagon you must enable other repos
[10:14] <Seveas> !es
[10:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:14] <cris> de donde eres??
[10:14] <VoX> Patrick_: you're saying people arent being helpful. HOW ABOUT YOU ADVISE US THAT THIS ISNT ON AN UBUNTU SYSTEM?
[10:14] <Toma-> concept10: just need to pick random questions and answer them, not hard
[10:14] <hangfire> mx
[10:14] <Seveas> !caps
[10:14] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:14] <VoX> yes i know
[10:14] <Patrick_> VoX, lol
[10:14] <bvali> :D
[10:14] <Patrick_> VoX, I never said that
[10:14] <Patrick_> VoX, don't twist my words, please.
[10:15] <Toma-> Patrick_: whats the issue?
[10:15] <VoX> someone stab him
[10:15] <concept10> Toma-, that doesnt change the noise ratio
[10:15] <Patrick_> Toma-, no, I believe it is do-able, I remember getting such an error while I was running ubuntu, I merely installed a package, but I don't remember which one.
[10:15] <Toma-> Patrick_: what error?
[10:15] <bertugolu> hey can someone help me????
[10:15] <idefix> there's no newsgrouputility in evolution mail, is there?
[10:15] <Patrick_> Toma- when I try to install a package from source, after I run the make command I get the following error for make install
[10:15] <Toma-> bertugolu: ill give it a shot
[10:15] <londondave> as anyone built the ueagle-atm driver for linux, it's supposed to work fine with sagem modem on linux
[10:15] <scheuri> bertugolu: just ask...maybe someone is able to help and will s
[10:16] <bertugolu> ok
[10:16] <bertugolu> i nstalled ubuntu
[10:16] <Seveas> Patrick_, errors on the pastebin please
[10:16] <bertugolu> and it is giving me an error when i boot
[10:16] <concept10> Patrick_, your problem inst not related to ubuntu.  You should conduct a search or go to the respective channel
[10:16] <cris> nadie me contesta
[10:16] <bertugolu> a GNUB error
[10:16] <Patrick_> Seveas, that is not necessary for one line errors, I'm not a noob.
[10:16] <scheuri> !es
[10:16] <crimsun> londondave: it should work in Breezy, but it won't in Dapper due to obsoleting hotplug.
[10:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:16] <Seveas> Patrick_, ok, then give the error
[10:16] <Patrick_> concept10, this is the most active hcannel I know of, it IS linux, etc.
[10:16] <Toma-> bertugolu: a grub error?
[10:16] <bertugolu> jes
[10:16] <cris> estoy aki!!
[10:16] <bertugolu> yes
[10:16] <Patrick_> Seveas, I'm getting to that lol
[10:17] <dli> Patrick_, cygwin is not linux, linux is the kernel
[10:17] <londondave> crimsun: is there anyway to get that modem to work in dapper?
[10:17] <hangfire> cris, nesacito ir a #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <Toma-> Patrick_: all my responses will be geared towards ubuntu tho. wether that helps or not, we'll see
[10:17] <Patrick_> Toma- it says 'make: Nothing can be done for 'install'
[10:17] <concept10> Patrick_, gentoo is more active
[10:17] <crimsun> londondave: yes, but it takes some tweaking and understanding of the udev transition.
[10:17] <Seveas> Patrick_, then simply read the readme - not much we can do to help
[10:17] <Seveas> .
[10:17] <Patrick_> concept10, they'll bitch about it not being gentoo as well.
[10:17] <Toma-> Patrick_: that means the make file has no "install" section, so wont "install"
[10:17] <bertugolu> hey what can  i do?
[10:17] <Toma-> !grub
[10:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:17] <Patrick_> toma- I assumed it was a package error.
[10:18] <Seveas> Patrick_, wrong assumption
[10:18] <londondave> crimsun: any idea where I can get info on how to do it?
[10:18] <Patrick_> toma- the readme to the application tells me to run make install.
[10:18] <Patrick_> seveas, obviously.
[10:18] <Toma-> Patrick_: no. its a "compiling from source and not reading the README file" error
[10:18] <Toma-> PEBKAC, to put it bluntly :)
[10:18] <crimsun> londondave: I don't know of any documentation, and I haven't tested (since I lack the hardware).
[10:18] <Patrick_> Toma- what?
[10:18] <concept10> Patrick_, do you have the correct build environment?
[10:18] <bvali> Patrick, it's strange that you can run `make` and not make install
[10:18] <Patrick_> Toma-, I read the readme to the program....
[10:18] <Toma-> err PEBCAK
[10:18] <Patrick_> concept10, thats why I'm here, I really am not sure.
[10:18] <Toma-> Patrick_: and it said "run 'make install'?
[10:18] <majtekst> does someone can help me about ubuntu installation
[10:19] <Patrick_> concept10, I installed a bunch of gcc and make etc.
[10:19] <concept10> Patrick_, what distro are yoou on
[10:19] <Patrick_> Toma-, it said run make, then make install
[10:19] <majtekst> yesterday, i downloaded ubuntu 6.06 (amd64)
[10:19] <Toma-> bertugolu: see that thing about grub a few lines up? and a read of that. what kind of grub error is it by the way?
[10:19] <Patrick_> conept10, I'm running Cygwin under windows.
[10:19] <londondave> crimsun: sagem even provide a patched driver on their website, but that won't build either-same 'cannot find kernel-sources error'
[10:19] <Toma-> Patrick_: cygwin?
[10:19] <Patrick_> concept10, its really the came concept as Linux. so, this is all really linux based
[10:19] <Patrick_> Toma- yes.
[10:19] <Seveas> Patrick_ jeez, go to #cygwin then, this is an Ubuntu channel
[10:19] <concept10> heh
[10:20] <Toma-> ubuntu help isnt cygwin help
[10:20] <Patrick_> Seveas, don't recommend me that..
[10:20] <majtekst> and when I booted from DVD, after few secound's my monitor have had freez
[10:20] <dli> londondave, edit the Makefile , locate the kernel source variable, correct it
[10:20] <Patrick_> Seveas, theres 17 people in there, and none of them respond.
[10:20] <Toma-> cygwin is 'like' linux
[10:20] <crimsun> londondave: are you using linux-headers-$(uname -r) or linux-source-2.6.15?
[10:20] <Toma-> not real linux
[10:20] <Seveas> Patrick_, that's no reason to be offtopic in here
[10:20] <Patrick_> Toma- this is merely package knowledge
[10:20] <majtekst> on the monitor i can see only two lines of text
[10:20] <Seveas> Patrick_, it is not, now stop it.
[10:20] <Patrick_> Seveas THIS IS on topic, its LINUX
[10:20] <scheuri> Patrick: by all due respect...people here are expecting you to run ubuntu of some sort, because the channel is supposed to give ubuntu support...so dont expect more than this please
[10:20] <majtekst> boot...
[10:20] <majtekst> load kernel
[10:20] <Toma-> it was only a matter of time till he got kicked :(
[10:20] <Patrick_> ....
[10:21] <Seveas> Patrick_, now behave.
[10:21] <scheuri> arrr...too late
[10:21] <Patrick_> dude, that was not cool
[10:21] <Patrick_> anyways
[10:21] <Patrick_> I merely need a package to look for
[10:21] <dli> Seveas, thanks, this patrick is just rude and ignorant :( bad combination
[10:21] <Patrick_> simple as that.
[10:21] <Toma-> +1 beer to Seveas
[10:21] <concept10> Hes umm.. a little demanding
[10:22] <rixxon> he could've asked in some offtopic channel
[10:22] <londondave> crimsun and dli: I have all the necessary packages installed for this to build, the configure script tries to find something in /lib/modules/*/ but if that fails it looks in /usr/src/linux-I cannot understand why it cannot see the kernel source
[10:22] <Seveas> back to normality people
[10:22] <rixxon> like #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode-social
[10:22] <dli> rixxon, he doesn't read any doc :( that's the problem
[10:22] <bioticpro> How can a dual analog joystick game controller be configured in Linux?
[10:22] <Toma-> londondave: run './configure --help' and see if you can specify the kernel source path
[10:22] <concept10> or google cygwin
[10:22] <rixxon> dli: heh, didn't see his question
[10:22] <bertugolu> hey i still got a problem
[10:23] <crimsun> londondave: I'm not sure you answered my question explicitly
[10:23] <Bassetts> is there any easy way to make a screencast??
[10:23] <bertugolu> HELLO?
[10:23] <dli> Bassetts, screenshot?
[10:23] <Toma-> bertugolu: see that thing about grub a few lines up? and a read of that. what kind of grub error is it by the way?
[10:23] <Toma-> !grub
[10:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:23] <salah> how do I save a image from VLC? (taken screenshot, but nothing is saving)
[10:23] <Toma-> bertugolu: ^^^
[10:23] <bertugolu> heh
[10:23] <bertugolu> it gives a lot of different numbers
[10:24] <Bassetts> dli: no screencast, record your screen
[10:24] <bertugolu> the last time it gave me error 17
[10:24] <Toma-> bertugolu: does it say "kernel panic"?
[10:24] <bertugolu> no
[10:24] <londondave> crimsun: I have the kernel-headers that is the right package for the pre-built kernel, the configure script as an option --kernel-source-dir, even when I use that I get the same error
[10:24] <Toma-> good
[10:24] <dli> Bassetts, in a terminal (or Alt-F2), run: gnome-screenshot
[10:24] <bertugolu> shalll i reinsall ubuntu?
[10:24] <concept10> Bassetts, http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/07/recording-videos-of-your-desktop-in.html
[10:24] <rixxon> Bassetts: mhm, saw some python thingy for recording vnc sessions
[10:24] <PORRETE> OLA ALGUN ESPAOL
[10:25] <scheuri> !es
[10:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:25] <PORRETE> OLAAAAAAAA
[10:25] <Bassetts> concept10: can i reduce the screen res with that, because a 1280x1024 flash movie isnt very helpful to people on 1024x768
[10:25] <londondave> crimsun&dli: what's driving me mad is there are help files to describe getting this modem to work and others say it's a sucess
[10:25] <PORRETE> ESPAOL
[10:26] <Toma-> how do you say shutup in spanish?
[10:26] <PORRETE> SIIIIIIIIIIIII
[10:26] <scheuri> ;)
[10:26] <rixxon> Bassetts: read this, http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=CamStudioOSS/camstudio
[10:26] <Lynoure> !es
[10:26] <bvali> lol
[10:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:26] <dli> londondave, kernel source location should be easy to provide, do you have " ./configure --help " ?
[10:26] <concept10> Bassetts, I only provide linky, you have to determine that.  Also search Newsforge, or google I have seen plently articles
[10:26] <salah> PORRETE, no, nosotras hablar ingels
[10:26] <dli> londondave, read the INSTALL or README file
[10:26] <crimsun> Toma-: you say, /mode #ubuntu +q<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:27] <Toma-> :)
[10:27] <Bassetts> concept10: thanks, i have been looking, seems hit and miss on how to word your search
[10:27] <PORRETE> SUIS POLA MOTA CULINBA
[10:27] <salah> PORRETE, reunir #ubuntu-es
[10:27] <scheuri> is he swearing now?
[10:27] <scheuri> ;)
[10:28] <PORRETE> JEJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[10:28] <Toma-> el muchos sinorita
[10:28] <concept10> Bassetts, google ubuntu screencast
[10:28] <londondave> dli: I have, I hate to bore you guys, but I built kde from scratch about 4 years ago for a laugh-in the good old days of linux. I have built much more complex packages than this driver-I just don't get it
[10:28] <Bassetts> concept10: thanks
[10:28] <salah> scheuri, he is said something about us :p
[10:28] <Healot> !laptotp
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about laptotp
[10:28] <Healot> !laptop
[10:28] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:29] <scheuri> salah: ah, okay...hope it was nice and such...;)
[10:29] <majtekst> does someone can help  me with ubuntu installation
[10:29] <salah> hehe
[10:29] <dli> londondave, what's the name of the driver? I can have a look whether it builds here
[10:29] <Toma-> londondave: what exactly is your problem anyway?
[10:29] <dli> !ask > majtekst
[10:29] <ktogias> Hi, I have a 4.1 Sound Blaster Live! 1024 sound card. I am trying to connect it with an external amplifier. The card has a Digital Out jack that according to the manual "Connects to external digital device, such
[10:29] <ktogias> as a DAT or MD recorder via a Digital
[10:29] <ktogias> Output Module (available separately) or
[10:29] <ktogias> FourPointSurround Digital speakers".
[10:29] <ktogias>  In specs section the manual describes the digital output jack as: "DIGITAL OUT (Front and Rear SPDIF digital outputs) via 4-pole 3.5mm minijack on rear
[10:29] <ktogias> bracket
[10:29] <ktogias> ". Does anyone can say 1) If the digital output is optical and 2) if I have any chances to make it work under breezy?
[10:29] <scheuri> londondave: have you installed linux-headers "sudo aptitude install linux-headers[yourkerlnelversion] "?
[10:29] <ktogias> ... soory for the flood...
[10:29] <majtekst> yesterday i downloaded ubuntu 6.06 for amd64
[10:30] <londondave> eagle-usb, they have a web site for the driver or you can go to sagem and they have a patched driver of the same source code
[10:30] <Toma-> awesome flood. sorry cant help.
[10:30] <concept10> Bassetts, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/?s=screencast&searchbutton=go%21
[10:30] <majtekst> i booted from DVD
[10:30] <Bassetts> concept10: tried that, it isnt a easy way
[10:30] <majtekst> but after few secounds, my computer was block
[10:30] <concept10> Bassetts, I also have a app called istanbul that is easy to use - apt-cache search instanbul
[10:30] <majtekst> on the screen i should only see loading kernel
[10:30] <ktogias> I didn't realize I write so much text :( ...
[10:30] <majtekst> and nothing was hapen
[10:31] <Toma-> londondave: what exactly is your problem anyway?
[10:31] <scheuri> majtekst: are you sure it was blocked? the livecd takes quite a while to finish loading
[10:31] <majtekst> i try to boot live ubuntu options
[10:31] <dli> londondave, GPL Driver for Eagle Chipset powered ADSL modem
[10:31] <Bassetts> concept10: using that right now, smile your on screen cam, but my mouse has a yellow box around it and theres a trail of mice all over the screen
[10:31] <majtekst> and evertyhing is OK, but i would like to install on harddisk
[10:31] <majtekst> how mouch time???
[10:32] <Seveas> dli, i though eagleusb drivers were in Ubuntu already
[10:32] <majtekst> i waited about 10 minutes
[10:32] <concept10> Bassetts, I wish there was something simple.  I wanted to make one the other day without cli hassle (im in cli all day, gimme a break sometimes!) but no dice
[10:32] <londondave> Toma-: I can hear people groan already-as far as I know I have all that I need to build the eagle-usb driver from source-the configure script runs fine until the end-'cannot find kernel source' error
[10:32] <scheuri> majtekst: uhm well...10 minutes should have been enough though...
[10:32] <Bassetts> concept10: ok, if i find anything ill keep you in mind
[10:32] <dli> londondave, modprobe eagleusb
[10:33] <majtekst> i didn't put any specific boot options
[10:33] <Toma-> londondave: and you installed linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[10:33] <ubuntu_> hola
[10:33] <majtekst> just press Enter on the first dialog
[10:33] <hybrid> hola ubuntu_  como estas?
[10:33] <londondave> dli: the deb packages will let the driver load but they are broken and cannot work the modem
[10:33] <ubuntu_> bien en clase
[10:33] <majtekst> i am not quite sure, what is install on hard disk (icon) on the desktop, when i boot love Ubuntu
[10:34] <hybrid> tiene un preguna?
[10:34] <scheuri> londondave: so you have already installed the packages available with ubuntu 6.06 via apt-get or aptitude (or synaptic)?
[10:34] <majtekst> is it same like I install normaly
[10:34] <dli> londondave, can you get the source of the deb? build from there
[10:34] <Badwolf2> http://www.ffgame.gangwars.de/surprise.php?lucky=25414
[10:35] <majtekst> I have Debian Sarge and Windows XP on the same Harddisk
[10:35] <londondave> scheuri: yes but the ubuntu team know they don't work and will be fixed in the future-the advice is to rebuild from source and that should work fine
[10:35] <ubuntu_> en castellano please
[10:35] <scheuri> londondave: ah, sorry...didnt know that...my bad
[10:35] <majtekst> but instead Debian, i would like to install Ubuntu
[10:35] <dli> londondave, I couldn't build the eagle-usb driver, I'm running 2.6.17-mm6, not supported by the module source
[10:35] <scheuri> majtekst: when installing debian, have you made different partitions for / and /home=
[10:36] <ubuntu_> estamos probandolo en live pero lo instalare
[10:36] <Seveas> !es
[10:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:36] <londondave> dli: what is the module source is that the same as the source code for the driver?
[10:36] <Toma-> londondave: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144468&highlight=sagem+fast+800
[10:36] <Toma-> seen that?
[10:36] <dli> londondave, yes, I mean the driver source
[10:37] <londondave> Toma-thanks I'll take a look
[10:37] <dli> hybrid, #debian?
[10:37] <hybrid> heh
[10:37] <ubuntu_> thanks yoy
[10:37] <ubuntu_> thanks you
[10:37] <londondave> dli: if you have kernel 2.6 this driver is already installed but it is broke
[10:37] <wy> hi, has anyone experience with using shared library with dlopen() and dlsym()...
[10:37] <dli> londondave, no, I have -mm kernel
[10:39] <londondave> Toma-thanks I have a hard copy of that guide, but the ueagle-atm driver attemtps to change directory to /lib/modules/*/build my lib/modules did not have a build directory
[10:40] <concept10> gosh the state of graphics (drivers) is horrible! I fixed a problem i have been messing around with for hours by removing one package
[10:40] <Toma-> londondave: have you install all the apt-get stuff at the top?
[10:41] <londondave> Toma-yes that is what is so puzzling, I thought this would take an hour to do max, 4 days later I am stuck using windows xp for the internet.
[10:42] <londondave> dli: out of interest what is the difference-what is mm kerbel
[10:42] <londondave> kernel even
[10:43] <iLLf8d> lo all, hey seems no matter which platform I try ubuntu on it'll never install
[10:43] <iLLf8d> altho when I try to install debian it usually goes right in go figure
[10:44] <iLLf8d> anyone know the status of ubuntu ppc on ppc mac minis?
[10:44] <hybrid> iLLf8d: make sure the CD isnt corrupt
[10:44] <hybrid> iLLf8d: works fine here
[10:44] <iLLf8d> I checksumed it
[10:44] <londondave> the basic problem people is that my router was working fine with tiscali broadband for months, then it would not connect-is there a sure fire way of checking the network card and router are not the problem?
[10:44] <dli> iLLf8d, use debian then, I point is now, use debian, if you know the name debian, otherwise, try ubuntu :)
[10:44] <iLLf8d> seems it looks like its going to work then hangs at a cursor
[10:44] <hybrid> did you burn slow?
[10:45] <dli> iLLf8d, I heard too many problems from dapper
[10:45] <iLLf8d> uhm no but my burner doesn't coaster and works fine
[10:45] <Seveas> dli, debian spam or fud elsewhere pleasse
[10:45] <iLLf8d> its not sketchy like other burners
[10:45] <majtekst> scheuri: i have few partitions [/, /boot/ /swap, /fat32, /dev0 - windowsXP
[10:45] <iLLf8d> I don't get it I mean ubuntu uses the deb installer doesn't it?
[10:46] <londondave> I don't know why those call centre support staff in india are so bad, if they didn't lie so blatently then we wouldn't blow our top with thm
[10:46] <iLLf8d> I'd like to try out ubuntu on my mini otherwise I wouldn't have come here, I'm not trolling
[10:47] <dli> Seveas, you shut up, I mean I don't recommend ubuntu for all
[10:47] <londondave> iLLf8d: ubuntu is a very good linux distibution, I can't say linux has the same visual quality as windows, but it's much safer and more fun to use
[10:47] <JDStone> is xserver-xorg the X server?  is that the correct package?
[10:48] <JDStone> I installed it and I still dont' get the 'startx' command
[10:48] <iLLf8d> I've used linux for years since the mid 90s
[10:48] <iLLf8d> wonder if its an xorg issue with my monitor
[10:48] <iLLf8d> altho the startup fancy ubuntu screen looked like it was working
[10:48] <JDStone> is xserver-xorg the X server?  is that the correct package?
[10:48] <jenton> what package contains a tool I can use to join mpeg4 avi files together?
[10:48] <dli> iLLf8d, very old or very new hardware?
[10:48] <iLLf8d> wierder still was that the livecd of the last version worked on it
[10:49] <iLLf8d> its fairly new its the 1.25ghz g4 mini 1G memory
[10:49] <dli> JDStone, yes
[10:49] <JDStone> dli: then why don't I have the startx command?
[10:49] <wddx> who is chinese?
[10:49] <dli> iLLf8d, sounds okay to me, not very old, or new
[10:49] <JDStone>  /whois chinese
[10:49] <iLLf8d> jenton, you can't you'll have to convert one way or the other probably
[10:49] <JDStone> lol
[10:49] <dli> wddx, me
[10:49] <londondave> iLLf8d: same here but hardware is gradually coming with linux drivers, where there used to be problems with getting driver info at all. So linux is always going to be slightly behind windows on hardware
[10:50] <JDStone> sashenka: who is chii
[10:50] <JDStone> sashenka: what is JDStone
[10:50] <iLLf8d> londondave, well I thought the g4 minis were in the supported list
[10:50] <concept10> is there something like katapult for gnome or does it work in gnome?
[10:50] <JDStone> sashenka: who is JDStone
[10:50] <wddx> ok let us speak chinese,di i have a question.
[10:50] <JDStone> dli: should I have the 'startx' command?
[10:51] <dli> wddx, no, this is an english only channel, you can pm me
[10:51] <londondave> iLLf8d: what's the proble you have at the moment
[10:51] <iLLf8d> I'll try swaping out my monitor tomorrow and or hooking it up to my kvm (kvm may fake nicer settings I dunno)
[10:51] <wddx> o
[10:51] <iLLf8d> seems its hanging just after the fancy bootscreen
[10:51] <iLLf8d> I can't get into the installer to install it
[10:51] <Madpilot> !tw
[10:51] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:51] <iLLf8d> I get left with a brownish screen and a tick mark lookign prompt that doesn't blink
[10:51] <londondave> iLLf8d: when I initially installed, I had the same problem, so I just reinstalled and it was fine
[10:52] <iLLf8d> no consoles work no noise from cd or mini
[10:52] <cubikdice> dammit! the video card on one of my boxes just went :
[10:52] <dli> JDStone, startx is within the xinit package, use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com to search packages for content files
[10:52] <cubikdice> :'(
[10:52] <JDStone> oh, I thought it would install startx, thanks
[10:52] <iLLf8d> I tried it twice, I'll rip out all my external drive cables swap monitor and give it another run tomorrow
[10:53] <dli> wddx, don't go to #ubuntu-cn , seems like the big brother has an eye there
[10:53] <londondave> iLLf8d: no how you feel mate, but I am not sure what the status is for linux on mac on i386 chips there is not a problem
[10:54] <iLLf8d> yeah the wierdnesses are that the live cds seem to work on the boxes I've tried but the installers have always failed
[10:54] <iLLf8d> which is pretty wierd
[10:54] <dli> JDStone, however, you should install a meta package like,  ubuntu-desktop , instead of xserver-xorg (which is pulled in by ubuntu-desktop)
[10:54] <wy> I've got a programming problem. a problem of visiting global variables from a shared library
[10:54] <iLLf8d> must just have bad luck =P
[10:54] <JDStone> dli: why is that?
[10:54] <JDStone> why should I do that
[10:55] <londondave> iLLf8d: might be time to email ubuntu and see if there is a known problem, they have a known problems list for dapper
[10:55] <dli> JDStone, because xserver-xorg doesn't give you all required X components
[10:55] <JDStone> dli: I'm installing mythtv and I don't want something like gnome
[10:55] <JDStone> ahh, ok
[10:55] <zuhi_> hejho!
[10:55] <zuhi_> and bye :)
[10:56] <iLLf8d> hrm gotta do a search for the ubuntu bts
[10:56] <dli> JDStone, I got a n00b way, install xubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <wddx> "seem slike the big brother has an eye there" what meaning?
[10:57] <JDStone> I just looked at that on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <JDStone> and it installs so much other crap I don't need
[10:58] <dli> JDStone, okay, x-window-system-core
[10:58] <dli> wddx, just don't go to #ubuntu-cn , for your own interests
[10:58] <JDStone> ahh, there we go, thank you dli
[10:59] <JDStone> I'm still a n00b when it comes to ubuntu
[10:59] <iLLf8d> londondave, hrm now that I'm doing a few searches I'm finding others who had similar problems
[10:59] <dli> JDStone, you should install debian though, for your specific requirement
[11:00] <JDStone> dli: why install debian?
[11:00] <dli> JDStone, because the default ubuntu installation is already gnome, while in debian, it's not
[11:00] <londondave> iLLf8d: as you know the linux guys have to do almost spy type work to get the info they need to write working drivers -apple may not play ball which is a mystery to me
[11:01] <JDStone> hmm, I have it all set up with BIND and everything else....
[11:01] <dli> londondave, I heard apple is closing up instead of openning up, when it comes to it's OS
[11:01] <iLLf8d> dunno sounds like its a bad kernel option or 2
[11:02] <londondave> dli: I have no idea what apple should care about once you buy their computer, why should it bother them if you want to dual boot and yet they are making it easy on the intel ones to boot windows?
[11:03] <iLLf8d> londondave, apple just wants there piece
[11:03] <iLLf8d> they like to sell a decent product but they're more money grubbing then microsoft is
[11:04] <dli> londondave, they do care, because they can continue their " apple is faster/better" myth, if users couldn't run the same software to compare
[11:04] <CarinArr> can anyone suggest a good way to burn wma's bought from online shop onto cd?
[11:04] <charle97> apple would then be competing against dell instead of the evil known as microsoft
[11:04] <CarinArr> k3b doesn't seem to want to
[11:04] <EdLin> I don't know about "decent product", I've heard recent Apple x86 hardware is actually of lower quality than the average PC laptop.
[11:04] <iLLf8d> gotta live the black ibook costing 200$ more then the white ibook (tho it has a 20G bigger drive) like the drive difference costs apple much if anything you're paying for the color premium =P
[11:04] <londondave> iLLf8d: i always had steve jobs down as a reasonable guy-mind you after their announcements on the ipod if it gets a fault I'm not so sure
[11:05] <Ng> this all looks kinda off-topic folks :)
[11:06] <EdLin> llama32: black PC keyboards usually cost more than white/grey ones too. :-)
[11:06] <dli> Ng, who cares, nobody is asking any on-topic
[11:06] <charle97> yea, the channel seems real busy
[11:06] <iLLf8d> Ng it is but half the world is asleep =P
[11:06] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:06] <charle97> hello
[11:06] <llama32> EdLin: i think that msg was for someone else :)
[11:07] <JDStone> good point dli, debian it is then.  I'm downloading the netinst ISO.  night
[11:07] <dli> iLLf8d, by population? not likely, both china & india is up
[11:07] <iLLf8d> heh
[11:07] <charle97> china and india don't use linux
[11:07] <linuxboyfriend> i was installing ubuntu (dapper) and there was an error during partitioning: pad_parition_new is not detected
[11:07] <iLLf8d> sure they do
[11:07] <iLLf8d> heh
[11:07] <linuxboyfriend> ped*
[11:07] <dli> iLLf8d, should be "are", anyway, broken english as usual
[11:07] <Ng> charle97: yes they do, quite a lot more t han you might imagine, also europe is awake now
[11:07] <charle97> why should they when they can pirate windows
[11:08] <Ng> dli: in general if the noise level rises too high people ask questions less
[11:08] <dli> charle97, many open source projects from india, not sure about china
[11:08] <iLLf8d> dli, we're not speaking english we're speaking irc
[11:08] <iLLf8d> s/irc/ircspeak
[11:08] <iLLf8d> ok gnight all will give it a run again tomorrow
[11:08] <iLLf8d> cya
[11:09] <londondave> if anyone has any clues at all with this eagle-usb modem driver I'll be back on later, I cannot belive I can't get this to work
[11:10] <dli> londondave, if you really want to know, I can boot a stable version kernel, and try to test building
[11:10] <Crowe> Hey, can anyone help me? I have a problem with my video settings.
[11:11] <dli> Crowe, you mean video-driver? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:11] <d-s-d> hi
[11:12] <Crowe> The actual problem is that my video runs slowly under 1680x1050 but normally under a smaller resolution.
[11:12] <d-s-d> Is there a possibility to give usb-hd-partitions fixed mount-points?
[11:12] <Ng> Crowe: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[11:12] <londondave> dli: I'd be grateful, if it builds on you box then it should on mine
[11:12] <dli> Crowe, video card problem, might be
[11:12] <Crowe> ATI Mobility Radeon x1600
[11:12] <mada> j0
[11:13] <Crowe> I just installed the newest driver from the ATI site
[11:13] <mada> Crowe: ATI drivers are useless
[11:13] <Ng> Crowe: ah, I was going to suggest using the binary drivers, but if you already are then I'm not sure what else to suggest, I'm no ATi expert
[11:13] <dli> londondave, okay, I think I have the stable version vanilla kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:13] <Crowe> :(
[11:13] <dli> londondave, give me minutes to reboot
[11:14] <londondave> ok dli
[11:14] <Bassetts> is it possible to add a menu item that says "open terminal here" to the menu that you get if you right click in a folder?
[11:14] <mada> Crowe: sadly, ATI doesn't seem to care about the linux community so most ATI drivers that get any performance out of ATI chips are open source solutions
[11:14] <Ng> Bassetts: install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:14] <Bassetts> thanks
[11:15] <pequatre> hi everyone. Can anyone help me with my iptable rules ? see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17229 . Emule works fine with those while azureus won't let me open connections to other peers (dDB and scrape work fine though). What gives ? I use Azureus on port 46177 and Dapper...
[11:15] <londondave> Crowe: its back to the hardware driver problem, big companies don't like giving driver info to the linux community
[11:15] <dli> londondave, I will have to rebuild that kernel version :( I think I deleted the kernel source
[11:15] <Crowe> I'm starting to see that
[11:15] <Crowe> So I'm going to have to switch to a smaller res when I want to watch video?
[11:15] <mada> londondave: nVidia loves us :)
[11:15] <Seveas> !help
[11:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:16] <Seveas> @help
[11:16] <Dr_L_Z2A> does anyone know how I play audio from mpg videos?
[11:16] <Ubugtu> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[11:16] <londondave> dli: don't drive yourself mad, if you are cool with that it would be of help to me to see where I am going wrong
[11:16] <dli> londondave, 5 minutes more, I have distcc and ccache
[11:16] <mada> Crowe: until you get a nVidia card you will
[11:16] <Crowe> That will be quite a trick for my laptop =D
[11:16] <dli> londondave, no, I suggest you do the similar, read the doc, found out supported kernel versions
[11:16] <Seveas> @disable help
[11:16] <mada> Crowe: oh rgr ... what kind of laptop?
[11:16] <Crowe> Acer TravelMate 8204wlmi
[11:17] <mada> Crowe: alot of laptops have special setups for the gfx cards and there are ways to make it work nicely
[11:17] <mada> Crowe: ok, so what was your video problem?
[11:17] <londondave> dli: the info says that 2.6 kernels support the driver
[11:17] <londondave> dliL
[11:17] <Crowe> under 1680x1050, my video is very buggy and slow
[11:18] <Crowe> otherwise, the desktop looks good.
[11:18] <dli> londondave, get more detailed info, because I found 2.6.17-mm sources are not supported
[11:18] <Crowe> But it runs fine under smaller resolutions
[11:18] <mada> Crowe: strange, did you check the Xorg config file to make sure it is using the ATI driver you just installed?
[11:18] <dli> londondave, Linux head2 2.6.17-mm6 #2 Tue Jul 4 15:17:09 CDT 2006 i686 mobile AMD Athlon(tm) 4 1600+ GNU/Linux
[11:18] <Crowe> one sec
[11:19] <londondave> dli: I have spent hours looking for the slightest tip or trick, I'm sure it works with latest stable kernel which is 2.6.15-25
[11:20] <Crowe> mada, under what section would it be listed?
[11:20] <Crowe> i have fglrx
[11:20] <dli> londondave, anyway, I'm building, <IP_ADDRESS> now
[11:20] <mada> Crowe: hrmmm.... lemme check something
[11:20] <londondave> dli-that should be fine-thanks
[11:21] <dli> londondave, when it comes to kernel modules, I prefer vanilla sources, instead of ubuntu-source
[11:21] <cyphase> woohoo! Nexuiz is in edgy
[11:21] <ESPOiG> hey people, how do i set the permissions for a folder and everything in that to me, what is the command?
[11:22] <londondave> dli-all the info I have read says that the driver should work ok with either  of those kernels, should be interesting if it works-u'll be a hero in the uk :)
[11:22] <dli> ESPOiG, sudo chown -R
[11:22] <ESPOiG> dli, ta
[11:22] <dli> ESPOiG, example, sudo chown -R dli:users /home/dli
[11:23] <ESPOiG> k
[11:23] <ESPOiG> thanx
[11:23] <Anony> Please help me I have destroyed ubuntu.
[11:23] <Anony> I was trying to get my sound working on an omnibook 4150 sound card is nm256
[11:23] <Anony> Following this guide
[11:23] <Anony> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[11:23] <mada> Crowe: did you follow the install steps listed here --->http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html
[11:24] <mada> Anony:
[11:24] <ESPOiG> dli, just what i wanted that you :D
[11:24] <mada> Anony: what seems to be destroyed?
[11:24] <Anony> When it came to the step "sudo module-assistant a-i   alsa-source"
[11:24] <Anony> My mouse stopped working
[11:24] <Crowe> mada: not even a little
[11:24] <londondave> dli: the amount of rolling tobacco I have smoked fumbling over this is making my chest hurt-lol, it would be good for my health to crack this
[11:24] <Anony> mada Along with my network card
[11:24] <Crowe> mada: I followed someone's guide
[11:24] <Anony> And the "battery left" display in icewm
[11:24] <Crowe> I'll try this and get back to you
[11:25] <mada> Crowe: give that a shot, it seems like i was wrong about ATI ... they must have cleaned up their act since i owned an ATI card ... apparently there is a gui tool from them that does everything you need, including editing the Xorg config file
[11:25] <dli> Anony, alsa should be in ubuntu kernel, already
[11:25] <mada> Anony: yeah .... alsa is standard
[11:25] <Anony> dli, that is not longer relevant to the problem and the steps I took above are not related to wether or not alsa is included in the kernel
[11:26] <Anony> The sound was not working, and I know alsa is included, however the module for my sound driver could not be loaded
[11:26] <Anony> Dmesg reported the module blacklisted, even though it was not present in the blacklist file
[11:26] <Anony> So I followed the guide
[11:26] <Anony> If you have a problem with the guide, please take it up with the author
[11:27] <mada> Anony: ok, well as far as the mouse not working, does the cursor not move when you move the mouse or that mouse not even show up on the screen?
[11:27] <Anony> Mouse shows up, but never moves. Clicking does not work
[11:27] <Anony> Tried a usb mouse as well
[11:28] <mada> Anony: well, the mouse driver was just recently upgraded, so that should more likely than not be fixable via a "sudo apt-get update && upgrade"
[11:28] <Anony> It was working until I ran that command.
[11:28] <crimsun> which command?
 When it came to the step "sudo module-assistant a-i   alsa-source"
[11:28] <Anony> Thats why everything stopped working
[11:28] <Anony> *when
[11:29] <crimsun> Anony: can you describe what m-a was doing when everything stopped working?
[11:29] <crimsun> and what does "everything stopped working" entail? complete system freeze?
[11:29] <Anony> crimsun, Idont know what m-a is
[11:29] <crimsun> module-assistant.
[11:30] <Anony> crimsun, I answered that question earlier if you will recall
[11:30] <londondave> dli-be back in 15 mins
[11:30] <Anony> Module assistant reported that things were already built and it wasnt rebuilding them
[11:30] <dli> londondave, should be done by thne
[11:30] <Crowe> mada: in retrospect, the steps i followed were very similar. I'll reboot now and report the results
[11:31] <crimsun> Anony: I need to know if your system froze or not.
[11:31] <Anony> crimsun, nope
[11:31] <dli> Anony, I would like you to check modules: psmouse, usbhid
[11:31] <Anony> dli, in what manner would you like me to check them?
[11:31] <Anony> lsmod? modinfo?
[11:32] <dli> Anony, lsmod, rmmod, modprobe
[11:32] <Anony> k
[11:32] <dli> Anony, and /etc/init.d/gdm restart after that
[11:32] <Anony> psmouse didnt show up under the first two commands and the last one reported that the module could not be found
[11:32] <dibblego> !nvidia
[11:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <crimsun> Anony: paste the output from ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' in #flood
[11:33] <dli> Anony, it's built-in then
[11:33] <Anony> crimsun I cannot copy or paste, I am using windows right now
[11:33] <Anony> As I said, my network adapter is not working, nor is the mouse
[11:33] <Anony> So I cannot be online, nor select text for copying and pasting
[11:34] <dli> Anony, sounds like a kernel bug to me :)
[11:34] <Anony> dli, suddenly like this after days?
[11:34] <crimsun> were you using breezy or dapper?
[11:34] <Anony> dapper
[11:34] <crimsun> which kernel?
[11:34] <Anony> lemme check
[11:34] <mada> wb Crowe
[11:34] <Crowe> thanks
[11:34] <Anony> Although I updated and upgraded today and it has been workling for hours
[11:34] <dli> Anony, rebuild your kernel, and get away from those bugs :)
[11:34] <mada> Crowe: how's it running?
[11:35] <Crowe> Problem persists though. It works okay when it's in a window,but in fullscreen it is very jumpy.
[11:35] <Anony> kernel 2.5.15-23-386 is the subdir of the modules directory, does that help?
[11:35] <dibblego> if I have NVidia graphics, but I also want to use a dual head display, do I still follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[11:35] <mada> Crowe: strange
[11:36] <crimsun> Anony: sure. There's a newer kernel, 2.5.15-25-386
[11:36] <crimsun> Anony: sure.  There's a rough guide on the Xinerama Howto page in the community docs
[11:36] <Dr_L_Z2A> does anyone know how to play mpg videos in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Frogzoo> Anony: that will run 686
[11:37] <Anony> Frogzoo, oh cool
[11:37] <crimsun> Anony: the first thing I'd do is ``apt-get install linux-686''
[11:37] <EdLin> blahh: 686 is better
[11:37] <kungfugoat> I can plug in a compact flash card in the 6-in-1 reader and it pops up on the desktop but the hard disks aren't recognized
[11:37] <[b] urk> Dr_L_Z2A, install VLC
[11:37] <charle97> blahh, 686
[11:37] <blahh> thanks.....should i do a full reinstall?
[11:37] <kungfugoat> dmesg doesn't give any clues either
[11:37] <Anony> I wish I could load these modules :/
[11:37] <EdLin> blahh: you don't need to, just apt-get install linux-686
[11:37] <dli> kungfugoat, try, to "sudo modprobe " them, one by one, sd_mod sg ehci-hcd uhci-hcd usb-storage
[11:37] <pequatre> hi everyone. Can anyone help me with my iptable rules ? see here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17231 . Emule works fine with those while azureus won't let me open connections to other peers (dDB and scrape work fine though). What gives ? I use Azureus on port 50001 and Dapper...
[11:38] <Frogzoo> blahh: nope - just 'sudo apt-get linux-image-686'
[11:38] <Crowe> I don't think my res has anything to do with it. The bigger the window the slower it runs
[11:38] <mada> Crowe: unfortunately i don't know what to tell you, normally issues like that reside in the xorg.conf file ... but according to ati the "fglrx" is correct
[11:38] <blahh> EdLin, just got done installing that
[11:38] <[b] urk> kungfugoat, i think many other have the same problem, search the ubuntuforums
[11:38] <EdLin> blahh: then you need to reboot, not reinstall
[11:38] <blahh> EdLin, do i need to configure grub
[11:38] <EdLin> blahh: Ubuntu configures GRUB for you. :-)
[11:38] <charle97> ubuntu will reconfigure for you
[11:38] <blahh> sweet
[11:39] <Subhuman_> hfgh
[11:39] <xice> i have an AMD64, would i benefit from `apt-get install linux-686' ?? or do i need an AMD packag
[11:39] <Frogzoo> xice: 686 is the best
[11:40] <[b] urk> pequatre, whats --sport? is it the port on your comp?
[11:40] <xice> Frogzoo, suitable for AMD64 3000+?
[11:40] <Subhuman_> Frogzoo, not for an AMD cpu
[11:40] <crimsun> Anony: the snd-nm256 driver has quirks. You probably need to pass reset_workaround=1 reset_workaround_2=1
[11:40] <Frogzoo> xice: you can run the k7 kernel for 64 bit, but various things aren't supported
[11:40] <Anony> I cannot "apt-get install linux-686" because the cdrom is not recognized
[11:40] <Subhuman_> xice, get the k7 kernel if your using the x86 distro.
[11:40] <pequatre> [b] urk, --sport = source port
[11:40] <kristian> Hatred, you here?
[11:40] <Frogzoo> xice: yup, totally supported
[11:41] <[b] urk> pequatre, --dport = ?
[11:41] <xice> ok ty, i bb with results
[11:41] <Anony> Is there someway I can force re-checking and loading of all these modules I so desperately need?
[11:41] <pequatre> [b] urk, so it's the remote port... and dport = destination port
[11:41] <crimsun> Anony: not really. Which network card is it?
[11:41] <Frogzoo> xice: just be aware that for 686, you have to reinstall - and it's 32 bit only
[11:41] <Anony> crimsun, rtl8180
[11:41] <[b] urk> why do you forward 65535 to many different destination ports? thats not very clever...
[11:41] <crimsun> Anony: using which driver, rtl8150?
[11:42] <Anony> crimsun, I have the .ko file for it in the proper directory, but when I try to load it I get an error that the module is not found
[11:42] <Anony> crimsun, I am not sure which driver it was using because it is not using a driver now.
[11:42] <Anony> probably 818x
[11:42] <xice> Frogzoo, i am currently in 32bit, with the default 386 i guess... without reinstalling, should i install 686?
[11:42] <crimsun> Anony: then just ``sudo depmod -e''
[11:42] <Anony> k
[11:42] <Frogzoo> xice: yes, that's the right approach
[11:42] <pequatre> [b] urk, what do you mean ? i forward packets whose source port is from 1024 to 65535
[11:42] <Hexagon> hi again
[11:42] <zburatoru> can i install the desktop or server version from the same CD?
[11:43] <[b] urk> pequatre, you cannot forward a source port to many different destination ports can you?
[11:43] <crimsun> it should use r818x from the looks of it.
[11:43] <xice> Frogzoo, ok, is the correct package called linux-image-k7
[11:43] <Anony> crimsun, did that, there was no output.
[11:43] <Hexagon> Is there a key combination to change input language?
[11:43] <crimsun> Anony: good.
[11:43] <pequatre> [b] urk, i don't think i do ??
[11:43] <Anony> crimsun, What do I do next? reboot?
[11:43] <crimsun> ``lsmod |grep ^r818x''
[11:43] <pequatre> [b] urk, let me see
[11:43] <dli> Hexagon, install scim , Ctl-Spacebar
[11:44] <Frogzoo> xice: linux-image-686  - or maybe linux-686 will work too
[11:44] <Hexagon> ok
[11:44] <Anony> crimsun, no output
[11:44] <RawSewage> how do you pronounce GNO<E
[11:44] <[b] urk> pequatre, you're forwarding 1024:65535 to 4662, 4672, and 50001
[11:44] <RawSewage> GNOME
[11:44] <xice> Frogzoo, so is that actually a new kernel, or just some sort of optimisation?
[11:44] <crimsun> Anony: ok, now ``sudo modprobe r818x''
[11:44] <kristian> Ewh... How do I install LimeWire?
[11:45] <pequatre> [b] urk, i forward packets whose destination port is 4662 to 4662, and so on
[11:45] <mada> kristian: you don't
[11:45] <pequatre> [b] urk, those are not ALL the packets (if i'm not mistaken)
[11:45] <maxxx> kristian, use gtk-gnutella... it's faster than limewire
[11:45] <Anony> crimsun, I checked the modulename with "locate rtl818x | grep .ko" and got the correct name
[11:45] <Anony> The modprobe command still reports that the module coould not be found
[11:45] <kristian> maxxx, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella?
[11:45] <mada> kristian: errr, i sit corrected ... apparently there is a linux client
[11:46] <crimsun> Anony: what command did you type to load it?
[11:46] <maxxx> kristian, yes.. but make sure you have the right repos enabled
[11:46] <kristian> multiverse, and universe?
[11:46] <tempest1> hi, does anybody have any experience with Intel Pro Wireless cards on Ubuntu?
[11:46] <martinez> a
[11:46] <Seveas> b
[11:46] <martinez> hola
[11:46] <Seveas> !es
[11:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:46] <dli> tempest1, which one?
[11:46] <tempest1> The wiki says it's supposed to be detected on install, but iwconfig shows nothing
[11:46] <POVaddct> tempest1: which IPW type?
[11:46] <hansi> ?
[11:46] <martinez> eres espaol
[11:46] <Anony> crimsun, "sudo modprobe rtl818x"
[11:46] <tempest1> 2200
[11:47] <crimsun> Anony: you made a typo.
[11:47] <maxxx> tempest1, i have a great experience. it worked out of the box
[11:47] <dli> tempest1, sudo modprobe ipw2200
[11:47] <POVaddct> tempest1: no problem, runs out of the box
[11:47] <Anony> crimsun, what is the typo?
[11:47] <crimsun> Anony: it's r818x, not rtl818x.
[11:47] <Anony> ...
[11:47] <zburatoru> do i install the server version from the same CD as the desktop???
[11:47] <Frogzoo> xice: it's the same kernel, compiled to run on p2 architecture (cf 386) so it's quite an improvement
[11:47] <Anony> You are right
[11:47] <Anony> It worked
[11:47] <pequatre> [b] urk, 1024:65535 doesn't mean my packet comes on any port in this range on my router, it means it was sent from any of these ports by the Azureus peer.
[11:47] <tempest1> for some reason it didn't work out of the box for me
[11:47] <Anony> crimsun, Now what?
[11:48] <xice> Frogzoo, ok, what sort of difference will it make, in a nutshell
[11:48] <tempest1> this is a fresh install of 6.06 LTS
[11:48] <tempest1> any ideas?
[11:48] <Anony> crimsun Iwconfig reports no wirless extentions
[11:48] <POVaddct> tempest1: what exactly does not work? what did you try so far?
[11:48] <zburatoru> can anyone pls help me???
[11:48] <tempest1> POVaddct, iwconfig isn't showing ath0 ...
[11:48] <crimsun> Anony: does that device need firmware loaded?
[11:48] <Anony> crimsun, no
[11:48] <maxxx> can anybody tell me how the iptables modules get loaded at startup? i compiled all the modules ubuntu uses into my debian kernel... but now i need to get them to load... i noticed they're not in /etc/modules... any suggestions?
[11:49] <POVaddct> tempest1: ath0 is _not_ for IPW
[11:49] <[b] urk> pequatre, i think you have misunderstood a little
[11:49] <crimsun> Anony: what does ``dmesg|tail'' say regarding the network device?
[11:49] <charle97> zburatoru, what cd do you have?
[11:49] <POVaddct> tempest1: ath0 is only for atheros chipsets (madwifi driver)
[11:49] <tempest1> POVaddct, well, there's no wireless extensions at all
[11:49] <tempest1> oh ok
[11:49] <zburatoru> well i ordered by shipit the CDs
[11:49] <Anony> initializing module
[11:49] <ubuntu_> I reinstalled system and I backup all deb files from /var/cache/apt. Can i use these files now? because my connection very slow for update (eg: if I type apt-get install gaim, it'll use my /var/cache's deb file)
[11:49] <POVaddct> tempest1: you should see eth0 and eth1 (with eth1 being the wifi card)
[11:49] <kristian> What can I find in gtk-gnutella?
[11:49] <Anony> wireless extensions version 19
[11:49] <zburatoru> they haven't got here yet
[11:49] <[b] urk> pequatre, when a peer sends something it labels it with yourip:yourazureusport
[11:49] <Anony> initializing proc filesystem
[11:49] <tempest1> POVaddct, I don't
[11:50] <charle97> zburatoru, the alternate cd should work
[11:50] <POVaddct> tempest1: which eth interfaces do you see when running iwconfig?
[11:50] <tempest1> eth0
[11:50] <Anony> I can't let you do this Anony
[11:50] <Anony> crimsun, heh
[11:50] <[b] urk> pequatre, if you dont have portforwarding in you firewall it will be stopped there because your comp doesnt want direct connections through an open port
[11:50] <POVaddct> tempest1: eth0 is most likely your lan card
[11:50] <crimsun> Anony: ``ifconfig -a'' should show the interface; does it?
[11:50] <tempest1> it is, tha'ts what I'm using now
[11:51] <Anony> crimsun, shows only lo
[11:51] <tempest1> that doesn't either
[11:51] <POVaddct> tempest1: is the ipw2200 module loaded?
[11:51] <tempest1> lspci does
[11:51] <pequatre> [b] urk, i'm afraid i don't understand. Can you give me an example ?
[11:51] <maxxx> kristian, did you get it installed?
[11:51] <tempest1> POVaddct, I tried modprobe
[11:51] <POVaddct> tempest1: dmesg | grep ipw
[11:52] <[b] urk> pequatre, bert sends you a packed with <yourip>:50001 that should arrive in azureus
[11:52] <pequatre> k
[11:52] <crimsun> Anony: does ``cat /proc/interrupts'' show the device?
[11:52] <[b] urk> pequatre, but if you dont have portforwarding for that port the packet will be discarded
[11:52] <Frogzoo> xice: you'll get mmx support & generally faster execution
[11:52] <tempest1> POVaddct, unable to load firmware
[11:52] <kristian> Maxxx, yes :)
[11:52] <Anony> crimsun, I dont see it listed.
[11:53] <tempest1>  ipw2200: ipw-2.4-boot.fw load failed: Reason -2
[11:53] <POVaddct> tempest1: for some reason, the firmware for the ipw2200 card is not installed
[11:53] <[b] urk> so what you want to do is to forward for example 50001 to 50001 (its easier to use the same number on the outside and on the inside)
[11:53] <POVaddct> tempest1: the firmware must be located in /lib/firmware/<yourkernelversion>
[11:53] <Anony> crimsun Listed are, timer, i8042, cascade, uhci_hcd:usb1,i8042,ide0,ide1
[11:53] <maxxx> kristian, cool... i think you'll find it better than limewire... and it doesn't run on java
[11:54] <dli> tempest1, you need the ipw2200-firmware package
[11:54] <kristian> ok :)
[11:54] <POVaddct> tempest1: ls /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)/ipw*
[11:54] <pequatre> [b] urk, $IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTIF -p tcp -d $EXTIP --sport 1024:65535 --dport 50001 -j DNAT --to $LANHOST
[11:54] <AaSFi> any1 can explain why am i getting this?
[11:54] <AaSFi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17232
[11:54] <ub1> Hi, I am real new to ubuntu, how to install xgl ?
[11:54] <AaSFi> its about getting 3d with ati card
[11:54] <tempest1> POVaddct, I have a fw tarball from earlier
[11:54] <tempest1> I'll try putting those files in /lib/firmware
[11:54] <maxxx> ubl, you have an nvidia card?
[11:54] <pequatre> --dport means the packet was addressed to 50001
[11:55] <ub1> yes gforce 5500
[11:55] <[b] urk> pequatre, i dont really understand what you need sport for?
[11:55] <POVaddct> tempest1: not directly in /lib/firmware. ubuntu expects the firmware files in a directory named after the kernel version
[11:55] <[b] urk> and what does $LANHOST return?
[11:55] <Anony> yay!, got the mouse working!
[11:55] <londondave> any luck dli?
[11:55] <POVaddct> tempest1: don't use the tarball if there is a ubuntu package for that
[11:55] <pequatre> [b] urk, because i don't want packets coming fro <ip>:port with ports below 1024
[11:55] <dli> londondave, it simply builds :(
[11:55] <[b] urk> pequatre, ok i get it
[11:56] <tempest1> POVaddct, I know, I was doing that but I don't kow why I didn't say it that way
[11:56] <tempest1> too early I guess
[11:56] <cwill1> anybody have memory leakish problems with gnome-cups-icon?
[11:56] <pequatre> that is: the remote host
[11:56] <maxxx> ubl, this link should work if you follow it very closely: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[11:56] <maxxx> ubl, also if you want to get the newest builds, you'll have to add quinn's repos to you sources.list
[11:56] <[b] urk> pequatre, what does $LANHOST mean? you must specify an internal port...
[11:56] <crimsun> cwill1: yes. It's bug #45406, and a fix is being considered for dapper-updates.
[11:56] <ub1> maxxx thanks Im going to try
[11:56] <Anony> crimsun, Does it seem like I will definately have to reinstall?
[11:56] <londondave> dli: I wonder where I am going wrong-so you have a kernel source in /usr/src/linux?
[11:57] <maxxx> ubl, good luck :)
[11:57] <dli> londondave, but I use vanilla source, as I figured out, it works better with vanilla
[11:57] <crimsun> Anony: not definitely
[11:57] <dli> londondave, as usual, /usr/src/linux is just a symlink
[11:57] <crimsun> Anony: can you install packages from the cdrom using apt-get ?
[11:57] <cwill1> crimsun: okay, thanks.  Any reason why I shouldn't just disable it?  And how exactly would I keep it from starting for now?
[11:57] <tempest1> POVaddct, do I need to restart or anything?
[11:57] <Toma-> londondave: still going?!
[11:57] <Anony> crimsun, Not unless I can get the module for the cdrom installed
[11:57] <POVaddct> tempest1: just unload and reload the module
[11:57] <Toma-> londondave: are you using the stock ubuntu kernel?
[11:57] <crimsun> cwill1: I don't use it, so I can't comment on those questions.
[11:57] <pequatre> [b] urk, $LANHOST is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:58] <kristian> Maxxx, do I need to open ports or something? Cause downloading dosn't start..
[11:58] <Anony> crimsun, it is an NEC internal cdrom, I will look a bit
[11:58] <POVaddct> tempest1: sudo modprobe -r ipw2200 ; sudo modprobe ipw2200
[11:58] <dli> londondave, <IP_ADDRESS> is the lastest 2.6.15 from kernel.org
[11:58] <cwill1> crimsun: I don't think I use it either;  it's just running by default :/
[11:58] <londondave> Toma- afraid so, dli has confirmed my fears that I am doing something simple wrong
[11:58] <POVaddct> tempest1: and check dmesg output again
[11:58] <crimsun> Anony: IDE cdrom?
[11:58] <tempest1> POVaddct, woot!
[11:58] <pequatre> [b] urk, but you're right, i don't define a port to be forwarded to...
[11:58] <POVaddct> tempest1: hehe
[11:58] <crimsun> Anony: meaning ATAPI, sorry
[11:58] <maxxx> kristian, you shouldn't need to... unless you have a firewall blocking outgoing traffic.. which is quite unusual
[11:58] <pppoe_dude> morning
[11:58] <Anony> crimsun, I believe so. I will try the plain "cdrom" .ko file
[11:58] <Toma-> londondave: its always something simple :)
[11:59] <pequatre> [b] urk, i tihnk the default for iptable is to forward to the same port it got the packet on...
[11:59] <dli> londondave, I suggest you to do the same, just forget ubuntu kernel, go kernel.org download a copy of stable kernel source, build your own kernel, and then the driver
[11:59] <londondave> dli: so do you think I should just download the vanilla kernel for kernel.org and build a new kernel?
[11:59] <crimsun> Anony: did you (or some process) muck with the blacklists or udev rules at any point?
[11:59] <Anony> crimsun, Yes, I beleive so
[11:59] <[b] urk> pequatre, to make it easy use: --dport 4662 -j DNAT --to $LANHOST:4662
[12:00] <crimsun> Anony: meaning you did and/or some process?
[12:00] <cwillu> any quick way to get ubotu to give me a link to a particular bug number?
[12:00] <Toma-> londondave: no
[12:00] <[b] urk> and so on with the same port on the outside as on the inside
[12:00] <kristian> maxxx, it started now ;) cool :)
[12:00] <Toma-> londondave: Whats the location of this package you want to builkd? ill compile it for you
[12:00] <Seveas> cwillu, ubugtu can do that for you in #ubuntu-offtopic or any dev channel
[12:00] <londondave> cheers dli, why do not agree Toma
[12:00] <Anony> crimsun, I checked the blacklist to see if my sound card was listed, but didnt make any changes, and I tried to cat some file from udev that was reported as nonexistant
[12:00] <pequatre> [b] urk, ok will try that
[12:01] <Toma-> londondave: vanilla kernel hasnt got all the ubuntu patches
[12:01] <cwillu> thanks Seveas
[12:01] <[b] urk> pequatre, where do you find that iptables file?
[12:01] <pequatre> [b] urk, i got it from the net
[12:01] <dli> londondave, if a feature is important and stable, it's already in vanilla
[12:01] <[b] urk> pequatre, but where is it on the computer?
[12:02] <crimsun> Anony: ok. That sounds awfully fishy. Can you access the cdrom now?
[12:02] <pequatre> [b] urk, in /home/usr/scripts/nat.sh why ?
[12:02] <Anony> crimsun, Not sure yet, it didnt automount and I am reading about how to do it manually
[12:02] <dli> londondave, whatever it works, though
[12:02] <mebsd> how do i make dsl or pppoe whatever in kubuntu live
[12:02] <pequatre> [b] urk, it's own by root and i start it as root if you want to know
[12:03] <[b] urk> oh
[12:03] <Seveas> !adsl
[12:03] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:03] <londondave> Toma its ueagle-atm I'm using 2.6.15-25 kernel, if i can get out of a kernel build that would be great
[12:03] <[b] urk> pequatre, i though that was a config file
[12:03] <stimz> lo all
[12:03] <londondave> thanks for you help dli i do appreciate it
[12:03] <crimsun> Anony: you probably need ``sudo modprobe ide-cd''
[12:03] <pequatre> [b] urk, no, just a script
[12:03] <londondave> Toma: http://download.gna.org/ueagleatm/ueagle-atm-1.3.tar.gz
[12:03] <[b] urk> yeah
[12:03] <Anony> Got the cdrom working
[12:04] <Anony> crimsun, used modprobe cdrom, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[12:04] <crimsun> good.
[12:04] <Toma-> londondave: ok, gimme a minute
[12:05] <Anony> Is there an apt-get command I can run to put all these missing modules back into startup?
[12:05] <protocol2> how do I go about starting network-manager from the console?
[12:05] <londondave> toma-cheers mate, it replaces the faulty driver module that comes with ubuntu dapper -it should work
[12:05] <Anony> crimsun, Is there an apt-get command I can run to put all these missing modules back into startup?
[12:05] <crimsun> Anony: no
[12:06] <crimsun> Anony: apt-get only installs packages. It knows nothing of what needs to be done with package contents.
[12:06] <kristian> maxxx, where is the files I download saved?
[12:06] <Anony> crimsun, Shall I upgrade to 686 now?
[12:06] <mebsd> where is that "nework setting" in  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:06] <crimsun> Anony: that'll be difficult without working network.
[12:06] <Anony> Alright.
[12:07] <Toma-> londondave: compiles totally fine here. just back tracking to see what you need to do
[12:07] <crimsun> Anony: however, if you have a usb "thumbdrive" with capacity of >=256 MB, you can probably sneakernet a solution
[12:07] <stimz> I'm a newbie to Ubuntu (but not debian) I just installed Ubuntu breezy on my VMWare client at work, and upgraded to dapper, I restart and X doesn't work at all. How can I discover what is going on, how do i access the logs, to help me and you work it out
[12:07] <Anony> crimsun, I am going to start a fresh install and go to bed, upgrade to 686 in the morning.
[12:07] <dli> Toma-, it does compile with ubuntu kernel?
[12:07] <Toma-> dli: perfect
[12:08] <Anony> crimsun, Thank you for all your time and help
[12:08] <POVaddct> tempest1: btw, do you have a more recent kernel than 2.6.15-23? because my ipw2200 driver doesn't need ipw-2.4-boot.fw, but ipw-{bss,ibss,sniffer}.fw
[12:08] <protocol2> how do I go about starting network-manager from the console?
[12:08] <Anony> crimsun, I just need to go to sleep and I dont want to spend hours figuring out what modules I need to load.
[12:08] <dli> Toma-, I expected problems, but it simple builds with vanilla kernel
[12:08] <Anony> crimsun, I will make a backup of my lsmod once I have the base install working
[12:08] <Toma-> londondave: run this for me "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386"
[12:09] <Toma-> (if youre running 386 kernel)
[12:09] <POVaddct> tempest1: no, it is ipw2200-{bss,ibss,sniffer}.fw
[12:09] <londondave> Toma-I can't I have no connection under linux, I'm using xp at the mo to figure it out, and download what I can
[12:09] <crimsun> Anony: well, the key for you once you have a working install is to use ``sudo modprobe snd-nm256 reset_workaround=1 reset_workaround_2=1''
[12:09] <dli> protocol2, something like , sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[12:09] <Toma-> brb
[12:10] <Anony> crimsun, Thanks!
[12:10] <LordElph> after an intrusion, is there a way to verify all packages are OK (or reinstall all packages?)
[12:10] <foxiness> what i need to show "quicktime" movie ? "after installed easyubuntu it can play it on totem but only sound with out pic"
[12:10] <Anony> crimsun, Once I have it working I will be sure to post that in one of the many thread about this chipset and that problem
[12:10] <Toma-> londondave: brb, phone
[12:10] <londondave> Toma-no probs and thanks
[12:11] <dli> londondave, buy a router, which can do adsl (PPPoE)
[12:11] <dli> londondave, then, you don't have to worry anymore
[12:12] <Toma-> londondave: pm your email to me and ill send it
[12:13] <londondave> dli: i was using a router and it worked fine then just could not get a connection, I don't know of a way to daignose if my dell laptop network card is faulty or the router?
[12:13] <Toma-> londondave: all you should have to do is untar it, then run "sudo make install"
[12:13] <protocol2> dli, i was reffering to getting my network manager running
[12:13] <londondave> Toma: I tried but it wanted to change to a /lib/modules/*/build directory that did not exist
[12:14] <stimz> Lo, no ideas about the x problem and how to diagnose it?
[12:14] <salah> how do I save a image from VLC? (taken screenshot, but where is it saving the picture?)
[12:14] <Toma-> londondave: ahhhhhhh, so its the make install step that didnt work?
[12:14] <londondave> after I typed sudo make, if you look at the makefile it said unknown lib/modules directory
[12:15] <Toma-> londondave: ahh ok. hang on a sec
[12:15] <londondave> Toma: it simply refused to build after sudo make
[12:16] <stimz> hello?
[12:17] <Toma-> londondave: cd into the ueable-usb folder and run "KERNELDIR=/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build make"