[03:44] <minimec> OmniD: Is ESD installed by default... ?
[03:45] <OmniD> err I think so yes
[03:45] <cmatheson> i have an lcd screen that i don't know the horizsync/vertrefresh for... the vendor's page (acer) doesn't list those either, is there any other way to find those out, or just a pretty safe setting i could put that at?
[03:45] <OmniD> because it is running!
[03:45] <stribb> Last vestiges from a window manager system from the late '90s called Enlightenment.
[03:45] <hobbesmaster> Jbirk: evil sound daemon... er enlightenment sound daemon
[03:45] <fisherman> My ubuntu often crash and fixfox often restart,how should i do?
[03:45] <yellow>  sorry guys
[03:45] <yellow>  pressed the wrong ubtton
[03:45] <Jbirk> why can't I find webmin
[03:45] <Jbirk> I want to installw ebmin
[03:46] <stribb> Jbirk: don't do that
[03:46] <chuckyp> !webmin
[03:46] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:46] <chuckyp> Jbirk, well theres your answer its no longer supported
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> Oh come on ubotu.  You could at least link to the meeting minutes explaining why or something so we aren't left wondering.
[03:46] <Flannel> Jbirk: webmin is no longer in the repositories, because the package maintainer didn't want to do it anymore.  You're still welcome to install it on your own though.
[03:46] <amicrawle> does any body know how to open a .DMG file ?
[03:46] <Jbirk> i have it working fine on my laptop
[03:46] <Jbirk> why can't i install it
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> (Anyone who has a URL, could you add it?)
[03:46] <stribb> because webmin is pants.
[03:46] <eracc> Jbirk, if you really want Webmin (like I do) you can get it at www.webmin.com.
[03:47] <stribb> It has always been useless
[03:47] <x-jd-x> hello
[03:47] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: the maintainer didn't want to anymore, no technical reason.
[03:47] <osielcs> Hi friends...I need some help to create a ADSL conection on Ubunto
[03:47] <stribb> and will *never* help you
[03:47] <LoRez> Warning: `manni18' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Ah, does that mean it's an "up for adoption" package now?
[03:47] <x-jd-x> what
[03:47] <chuckyp> Jbirk, no one is stopping you from installing it.
[03:47] <chuckyp> Jbirk, its just not supported in debian or ubuntu anymore.
[03:48] <amicrawle> does any body know how to open a .DMG file ?
[03:48] <Jbirk> okay
[03:48] <chuckyp> !tell osielcs about dsl
[03:48] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: sure, if you'd like to do it, go right ahead ;)
[03:48] <Jbirk> If I just check all of the boxes, does it turn on all of the repositories?
[03:48] <eracc> Jbirk, http://www.webmin.com/download.html
[03:48] <chuckyp> osielcs, read the private message from ubotu
[03:48] <chuckyp> Jbirk, I don't believe its in the repos let me check
[03:48] <amicrawle> does any body know how to open a .DMG file ?
[03:48] <amicrawle> does any body know how to open a .DMG file ?
[03:48] <amicrawle> does any body know how to open a .DMG file ?
[03:48] <amicrawle> does any body know how to open a .DMG file ?
[03:48] <LoRez> Warning: `amicrawle' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[03:48] <dabaR> osielcs: what kind of help?
[03:49] <chuckyp> amicrawle, please don't spam
[03:49] <stribb> Jbirk: why do you want webmin?
[03:49] <amicrawle> LoRez i am not
[03:49] <dabaR> amicrawle: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=3d39146c8b754f4c16715c677baeccfc&t=268503
[03:49] <LoRez> amicrawle: yes, you are.
[03:49] <O2> how to write Hello world program with g++ ?
[03:49] <LoRez> you said it 4 times rapidly.
[03:49] <chuckyp> stribb, why does it matter why he wants it.  Jbirk you would most likely have to download the source and install it.
[03:49] <osielcs> dabal, I can't find where to create an ADSL conection
[03:50] <OmniD> stribb: I tried opening the sound control panel or whatever and it keeps crashing
[03:50] <stribb> chuckyp: because if all he wants is easy host administration, it is the wrong solution
[03:50] <OmniD> it does not even open fully
[03:50] <eracc> chuckyp, Jbirk can get Webmin at the URL I pasted earlier.
[03:50] <dabaR> osielcs: sudo pppoeconf is the command for setting up dsl connections.
[03:50] <Kyral> O2: #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { cout << "Hello World"; return 0; }
[03:50] <stribb> I know nothing of this control panel, OmniD; sorry.
[03:50] <chuckyp> amicrawle, did you search google.
[03:50] <hedpe_> where can i find a list of supported NVidia/ATI cards in linux and X?
[03:50] <morphos19> I'm using GAIM on 6.06.  Anyone have any better IRC client recommendations?
[03:50] <Rookie_> !nvidia
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <chuckyp> amicrawle, becuase I just searched for "dmg to iso ubuntu" and found a response
[03:51] <O2> Kyral: then how to compile the program ?
[03:51] <OmniD> Do you do anything outside of the terminal
[03:51] <chuckyp> morphos19, well if you want gui based go with xchat
[03:51] <totall_6_7> morphos19: I like Kvirc
[03:51] <stribb> o2: make <progname>
[03:51] <Kyral> O2: g++ <name of file>
[03:51] <eracc> hedpe_, you can get the list of supported nVidia chipsets from nvidia.com
[03:51] <dabaR> !compile
[03:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:51] <Kyral> stribb: that only works if you have a Makefile....
[03:51] <mister_roboto> stribb: what if he doesn't want to write a makefile first?  ;)
[03:51] <stribb> my answer is better because it gives the program the right name
[03:51] <morphos19> Thanks Chuck and Totall
[03:51] <stribb> who said he needed a makefile
[03:51] <hedpe_> eracc: do you know for ATI?
[03:51] <Kyral> stribb: Make does :P
[03:52] <stribb> Kyral: tried it?
[03:52] <eracc> hedpe_, I do not use ATI. So, no.
[03:52] <Kyral> stribb: yes LD
[03:52] <mister_roboto> stribb:  wtf would the target be that you are making?
[03:52] <Kyral> You need a makefile for Make to work :P
[03:52] <O2> Kyral: thanks!
[03:52] <chuckyp> hedpe_, search for linuxcompatible in google.  there is a website that lists hardware
[03:52] <eracc> hedpe_, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[03:52] <osielcs> Thanks guy...fantastic.
[03:53] <chuckyp> hedpe_, www.linuxcompatible.org/
[03:53] <osielcs> Hi DabaR, is your nick a hebraic word?
[03:53] <chuckyp> thats the website I was looking for
[03:53] <stribb> um, I just wrote hello.cc
[03:53] <dabaR> osielcs: no, it means beaver in croatian/serbian/whatever else
[03:53] <stribb> and then ran make hello
[03:53] <stribb> and it worked
[03:53] <mister_roboto> stribb: well i'll be damned!  this version of make will in fact do that
[03:53] <stribb> You have no faith
[03:54] <dabaR> how uninteresting
[03:54] <stribb> *sigh* which is what I was telling you all
[03:54] <osielcs> DabaR. Do you know the meaning of it?
[03:54] <dabaR> osielcs: no, tell me please.
[03:54] <mister_roboto> stribb: i guarantee you that won't work on any other make you use besides gnu ;)
[03:54] <stribb> mister_roboto: worked on solaris
[03:54] <stribb> Why shouldn't it work?
[03:55] <stribb> Have you not hear of implicit rules?
[03:55] <mister_roboto> stribb: yes, but you don't specify a target
[03:55] <stribb> Learn *why* things work, not just *that* they work
[03:55] <stribb> yes you do.
[03:55] <stribb> make hello
[03:55] <stribb> specifies target hello
[03:55] <stribb> so make looks around and says to itself..
[03:55] <stribb> what can I make to make hello?
[03:55] <mister_roboto> indeed
[03:55] <dabaR> stribb: we are not interested, really.
[03:55] <stribb> Oh lookie here, there's a make.cc
[03:55] <mister_roboto> .ccp.o
[03:56] <mister_roboto> .cpp.o rather
[03:56] <mister_roboto> or .cc.o
[03:56] <b14ck73425> hey everybody
[03:57] <osielcs> DabaR is a hebraic word that means "word"
[03:57] <mister_roboto> stribb: whenever i compiled a single file (never for a real program)  i always just called the compiler directly
[03:57] <dabaR> osielcs: wow, seriously? I have a hebrew friend, and he never told me.
[03:57] <adrakoa> hi
[03:57] <stribb> mister_roboto: and now you know better; good :)
[03:58] <stribb> You also know that a single-line Makefile of CPPFLAGS='-blah -blah -funroll-loops' is all you need to make your code rice
[03:58] <amicrawle> will not mnt
[03:58] <Tokenbad> anyone here played quake 4 on ubuntu...i installed it...started it....it flashed and goes back to normal screen with error
[03:59] <osielcs> Dabar: Ask for him. (sorry by my terrible english. I am brazilian)
[03:59] <dabaR> osielcs: ok, thank you.
[04:00] <amicrawle> sudo mount -t hfs -o loop tiger-xiso.dmg /mnt
[04:00] <amicrawle> will not mount
[04:00] <osielcs> Dabar: Bye and thanks for the help.
[04:00] <adrakoa> hi i have a problem with fstab in edgy, with root=/dev/hdax, i remove the line UID=xxxx, and in the boot crash with xd out of memory and kernel panic...
[04:00] <stribb> adrakoa: put noauto into the options (where default is, perhaps)
[04:01] <Cassandra> Hello all.
[04:01] <Cassandra> I;m curious if anyone might be able to help me with Nicotine
[04:01] <adrakoa> stribb, ok, but how to write that UID what i remove??
[04:01] <stribb> adrakoa: it just won't mount it at boot-time
[04:02] <Cassandra> Ha, that's cute.
[04:02] <dabaR> adrakoa: use a live cd, perhaps.
[04:03] <Cassandra> emote lights up a cig... How refreshing :p
[04:03] <Cassandra> That didn't work.
[04:03] <totall_6_7> Cassandra: the best way is to ask your question :)
[04:03] <Cassandra> Ahhh!  Thanks
[04:03] <Cassandra> How did you do that?
[04:03] <adrakoa> dabaR, my problem is understand the fstab of ubuntu edgy
[04:04] <totall_6_7> do what?
[04:04] <dabaR> we accumulate good karma, and then shoot it out of a cannon at a lucky person with a girl nick.
[04:04] <Cassandra> make red just to me talking.
[04:04] <Cassandra> Or was it?
[04:04] <Cassandra> BTW I'm a newbie :p
[04:04] <dabaR> adrakoa: you removed something from it, and now want it back, but can not boot into the system to edit the file, correct?
[04:04] <adrakoa> nop
[04:04] <adrakoa> i understand chroot
[04:05] <totall_6_7> Cassandra: its your irc client/program highlighting any line with your nick in it
[04:05] <wickedpuppy>  xchat probably
[04:05] <Tokenbad> anyone here played quake 4 on ubuntu...i installed it...started it....it flashed and goes back to normal screen with error
[04:05] <JFreakCapo> hello
[04:06] <adrakoa> i write my fstab and now i have a kernel panic... i had a line with UID={32312-3232-3232} or something similar && it was necesary, but why?
[04:06] <Cassandra> Oh wow, thanks
[04:07] <womble> Hey, anyone able to help with ubuntu server amd64?
[04:07] <dabaR> to give you one?
[04:07] <Cassandra> So, my question is this:  I am trying to use nicotine but it won't let me sign in.  Does anyone know how I go about getting a user name?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> Cassandra, nicotine is ubuntu program ?
[04:08] <womble> Oh, no to get the network running... It's like the NIC isn't plugged into the network
[04:08] <Cassandra> I don't even know if that is the trouble because the "connect" command isn't selectable.
[04:08] <womble> Oh wait, there's a ubuntu-server channe, I'll move to there, sorry!
[04:08] <Cassandra> It is the linux version of soulseek.
[04:08] <Cassandra> Is that what you mean?  It's unsupported.
[04:08] <wheelswitch> how do i find out the processor speed im using in linux?
[04:09] <wheelswitch> *ubuntu
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> i see soulseek .. well never used it before ...
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> wheelswitch, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:09] <Cassandra> Thank you anyways.
[04:10] <O2> who could tell me, how to save and exit in VI ?
[04:10] <dabaR> :wq
[04:10] <dabaR> ZZ
[04:10] <eracc> :x
[04:10] <tritium> O2: :wq
[04:10] <Cassandra> Is there something like this somewhere else I could ask for advice?
[04:10] <O2> so many answer, which is right?
[04:10] <adrakoa> :wq!
[04:10] <eracc> O2, all the above
[04:11] <adyeths> I need some advice. I just bought a compaq presario sr2010nx. For some reason its detecting the hard drive as a scsi drive. I don't believe its scsi though. Is it wise to attempt to install this even though it thinks the hard drive is SCSI?
[04:11] <raymond_> hm....why not try seeing if there is a irc room just for nicotine??
[04:11] <StAfZe6> you tell me
[04:11] <xittum> Cassandra: lots
[04:11] <Cassandra> Ok, how do I do that?
[04:11] <JFreakCapo> hello, is possible to setup the configuration of video card diferent in the laptop screen and the tv output ??
[04:11] <Cassandra> This is my first time on here, sorry if it's tedious.
[04:11] <O2> oh, thanks all !
[04:11] <adrakoa> anybody can help with edgy strange fstab
[04:11] <dabaR> Cassandra: have you tried just using something you make up for the user name and password?
[04:12] <dabaR> Cassandra: relax
[04:12] <tritium> adrakoa: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[04:12] <adrakoa> ok
[04:12] <eracc> Cassandra, there is no channel for nicotine from what I see here.
[04:12] <adrakoa> thx
[04:12] <totall_6_7> Cassandra: try this link, its the FAQ for the program:
[04:12] <totall_6_7> Cassandra: http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/cgi-bin/faqw.py?query=connect&querytype=simple&casefold=yes&req=search
[04:12] <xittum> Cassandra: /join #linux - /join #kde or whatever channel you like..
[04:13] <Cassandra> I have tried using something I normally would if that's what you mean dabaR.
[04:13] <adyeths> can someone advise me on whether its safe to try to install ubuntu on a computer where the hard drives are detected as scsi when they aren't scsi? (at least I don't believe they're scsi)
[04:13] <dabaR> Cassandra: ya, it seems that you can just use whatever as the user name.
[04:13] <dabaR> Cassandra: as long as it is not already used.
[04:14] <Cassandra> Hmm... that may have just fixed it, thank a lot to everyone.
[04:14] <dabaR> Cassandra: heh:)
[04:14] <dabaR> Cassandra: I used google to come up with your user name.
[04:14] <Dreamglider> im trying to mount an ext3 partion on ubuntu live
[04:15] <Dreamglider> but i get /media/ext3/ is not a block device
[04:15] <Cassandra> dabaR:  What do you mean google?
[04:15] <dabaR> Dreamglider: what command are you using?
[04:15] <Dreamglider> sudo mount /media/ext3 /dev/hda2
[04:15] <dabaR> Cassandra: I entered "nicotine sign in soulseek" into google, and used the first link
[04:16] <Dreamglider> or /ext3/
[04:16] <adrakoa> Dreamglider, man mount. fdisk -l. mount /dev/hda2 /media/ext3
[04:16] <Cassandra> dabaR:  Ok, I'll have a look at that.  I still can't 'connect'
[04:16] <Dreamglider> !
[04:16] <hydro> can anyone recommend an application that I can run under Gnome Desktop on Dapper Drake which will let me send SMT (text messages) from my laptop running Dapper Drake to my mobile phone (once I have paired the laptop with the mobile phone over Bluetooth)?
[04:16] <adrakoa> mount /dev/hda2 /media/ext3
[04:17] <Consty>  In older versions of Ubuntu you were able to see preferences for specific screen savers, but now I no longer see them.  How can I pull them up?
[04:17] <rowdy__> hello everybody
[04:18] <rowdy__> can somebody help me with this problem i have
[04:18] <variant> Consty: apt-get install xscreensaver
[04:18] <variant> Consty: your using gnome-screensaver which is confusingly simple :)
[04:18] <Consty> variant: ah thank you!
[04:18] <dabaR> Cassandra: what is the server you are trying to connect to?
[04:18] <adyeths> *sigh*
[04:19] <Cassandra> server.slsknet.org:2240
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> rowdy__, so ... you are going to tell us the problem ... arent you ?
[04:20] <variant> wickedpuppy: lol
[04:20] <minimec> Cassandra: Could it be a problem with a firewall or a router?
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:20] <dabaR> Cassandra: try something like cassie12345 and some password to sign in. it may be that your user name is taken.
[04:21] <jshamash66> does anyone know why windows XP computers on my network cannot access my Ubuntu pc's shared folders
[04:21] <Cassandra> I don't think it a problem with the router, I've use it before for soulseek.
[04:21] <jshamash66> it just says its "not accessible"
[04:21] <minimec> Cassandra: ok.
[04:21] <dabaR> jshamash66: have you added users to samba for the windows box users?
[04:21] <Cassandra> minimec: I don't think it's a firewall as the 'Connect' command is just light grey instead of selectable.
[04:22] <adyeths> is there anyone here willing to answer my question?
[04:22] <Cassandra> dabaR: I just tried your advice what doesn't seem to be the problem.
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> adyeths, are you going to ask ?
[04:22] <jshamash66> dabaR: is that the 'smbpasswd' command?
[04:22] <minimec> Cassandra: ok again ;) So I can't help you. I don't use nicotine.
[04:22] <dabaR> jshamash66: dunno, read the samba wiki page
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> nicotine is bas for health ...
[04:22] <Cassandra> minimec:Thanks anyways, I appreciate it.
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> bad ... pardon my typo .. LOL
[04:23] <minimec> Cassandra: np
[04:23] <fr33mind> !seen holycow
[04:23] <ubotu> I last saw holycow<EMAIL_ADDRESS>13h 39m 14s ago, quiting: "Ex-Chat"
[04:23] <dabaR> adyeths: what is on the hard drives? Are they empty?
[04:23] <O2> I use g++ helloworld.c          and it produce this file:   a.out
[04:23] <fr33mind> hehe :)
[04:23] <adyeths> they have windows installed currently. (ugh).
[04:23] <O2> and found that a.out can't run
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> O2, for c , it should be gcc ... but nvm run it ... ./a.out
[04:24] <jshamash66> dabaR: well, I set up Samba users, but do you know if the username and password that I use have to be the username and password of the user on my Ubuntu PC?
[04:24] <dabaR> adyeths: are you trying to preserve the windows insatllation, or just overwrite it.
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> can't run ? O2 use gcc to compile c programs .. g++ for c++
[04:24] <O2> what's nvm?
[04:24] <adyeths> I need to get that junk off there and get ubuntu on it. but I'm nervous about trying to install it because its detecting the drives as scsi and iI'm pretty sure that the drives aren't scsi.
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> nvm = never mind
[04:24] <O2> oh,,,
[04:24] <O2> but I use iostream...
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> O2, in c ?
[04:24] <O2> iostream is c++ library
[04:24] <dabaR> jshamash66: the user name and password for the windows user trying to access the share has to be entered into the samba.
[04:25] <chuckyp> adyeths, what type of computer?
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> then why your program name is helloworld.c ?
[04:25] <jshamash66> dabR: hm, I did that too. still doesnt work
[04:25] <dabaR> jshamash66: same workgroup set up in the ubuntu box?
[04:25] <O2> #include <iostream> using namespace std;  int main(){ cout<<"helloworld"<<endl;}
[04:25] <O2> yes, that's the filename
[04:25] <jshamash66> dabaR: yeah
[04:25] <chuckyp> adyeths, what do you mena that it is detecting the drive as scsi also?
[04:25] <adyeths> compaq presario sr2010nx
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> O2, that should be cpp ... pls name your files properly  :P
[04:26] <adyeths> it says the drives are scsi.
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> O2, let me run here .. give me a min
[04:26] <O2> ok, i try it.
[04:26] <chuckyp> adyeths, what says the drives are scsi?
[04:26] <chuckyp> adyeths, you have to be a little more descriptive than "it"
[04:26] <dabaR> adyeths: if there is no important data on the drives, just go ahead with the installation is what I would do. That is _not_ an expert opinion.
[04:27] <adyeths> Ubuntu Linux 6.06.1 says that they're scsi.
[04:27] <adyeths> so does earlier version of ubuntu.
[04:27] <adyeths> it only detects them as scsi drives.
[04:27] <O2> wickedpuppy: I've tried, the same result!
[04:27] <chuckyp> adyeths, were does it say this?  or are you talking about it naming them as /dev/sda etc...
[04:28] <dabaR> chuckyp: the installation says so at some point
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> O2, I can run here ... btw try g++ helloworld.cpp -o helloworld .. it would give the final file name to be helloworld and not a.out
[04:28] <O2> sudo g++ helloworld.cpp,   an a.out file is produced.
[04:28] <dabaR> a.out is good
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> O2, no need sudo
[04:28] <chuckyp> dabaR, i've never seen the installation report what type of drive you have.
[04:28] <adyeths> yes. it names them as /dev/sda .... my other computer (which just died) had the drive as /dev/hda
[04:28] <O2> why no need sudo?
[04:29] <chuckyp> adyeths, they coulod possibly be sata drives
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> O2, why yes ? this is not admin issue ... users can compile programs
[04:29] <chuckyp> adyeths, sata drive following the same naming conventions
[04:29] <adyeths> ok... so it should be ok to install then and it won't fry the computer or anything? heh.
[04:30] <chuckyp> adyeths, what you could try doing to be sure is to boot to live cd and verify that all your hardware is working.  You could even mount the drive and make sure you can read from it etc... and not be having a driver issue with your controller.
[04:30] <adyeths> I just bought the thing today. I'd hate to have to take it back and say "oops, its fried. sorry. I need a new one."
[04:30] <O2> wickedpuppy: I've tried. it produced helloworld file.  I type helloworld, it says command not found!
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> O2, oh , main returns an int so I suggest for programming sake pls return 0; ...
[04:30] <man-of-christ> alright peeps i got a very serious problem with installation
[04:30] <dabaR> chuckyp: read the screens again.
[04:30] <adyeths> I'm on the live cd right now.
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> O2, its ./helloworld
[04:30] <man-of-christ> i donwloaded the installation livecd
[04:30] <O2> I did, it return 0
[04:30] <dabaR> adyeths: there is no way that can happen.
[04:30] <adyeths> it seems to be working for me so far. though I'm not sure how to get it to tell me if the hard drives are working.
[04:30] <man-of-christ> and when i try to install a get an error about partions and it wont install
[04:30] <chuckyp> adyeths, yeah i don't see using in apropriate drivers frying a computer.
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> O2, its not in the code you pasted ... you never return 0 ... anyway its ./helloworld <--- there is . and /
[04:31] <chuckyp> adyeths, which would be the worst case scenario it just wouldn't work.
[04:31] <man-of-christ> is there some sort if installation cds or something else i can downloaded to install
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> man-of-christ, ubuntu.com
[04:31] <man-of-christ> some sort of 3cds installation or something?
[04:31] <man-of-christ> i've  serach and i found nothing
[04:31] <jshamash66> Can anyone help me figure out why windows XP computers on my network cannot access my Ubuntu pc's shared folders?
[04:31] <dabaR> man-of-christ: called alternate CD. try that one. I never got the desktop cd to install.
[04:31] <O2> it's in the current directory, no use to add ./ ?
[04:32] <chuckyp> man-of-christ, there is a alternate iso which will allow you to do an old fasioned text install.
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> man-of-christ, you have not search enough .. on right side there is a link called "download"
[04:32] <man-of-christ> right
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> O2, pls add ./ ...
[04:32] <man-of-christ> but it say networkless"   i want internet  is an old pen.3 with 128 ram and i was running ferdora core5 and found it unstable so i wanted linux on that old pc
[04:33] <jshamash66> It tells me it's 'not accessible', and it's not a firewall problem because both computers can ping each other
[04:33] <man-of-christ> ubuntu is very satvle and problemless i feel.
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> ?
[04:33] <chuckyp> man-of-christ, definately download the alternate install cd.  and use that.
[04:33] <adyeths> ok... I'm going to take a chance and see what happens... hopefully all will be well. if not I guess I can always take it back to the store and say "oops it doesn't work"  heh.
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> networkless ?
[04:33] <chuckyp> adyeths, its not going to fry hardware
[04:33] <O2> the same!!
[04:33] <O2> I add ./
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> O2, pls tell us the exact command you typed and the result .. if too long pls use pastebin
[04:34] <O2> I use dir and saw the helloworld file!
[04:34] <chuckyp> O2, the file needs to be executable then you need to be in the directory that the file is in and they you type ./nameoffile  to run it.
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> 2 line is fine
[04:34] <crimsun> dabaR: afaik epiphany-browser still uses whatever libgnome uses, so esd? What's the lsof output while epiphany-browser is running an active a/v page?
[04:34] <man-of-christ> chuckyp, but is the installion for that alternative cd hard or idiot proof.
[04:34] <chuckyp> man-of-christ, it walks you through everything.
[04:34] <haploid_> I have the following usb device issue:  under fedora core, I am able to read from /dev/hiddev0 ( a shipping scale ), whereas under ubuntu 6.06.1, reading from /dev/hiddev0 (the device IS recognized just fine in /var/log/messages ) using cat does NOT return data like it does under fedora
[04:34] <man-of-christ> 10-4
[04:35] <man-of-christ> i also had a problem with streamming video? i thought ubuntu  came intergrated with all that?
[04:35] <chuckyp> haploid_, are you using sudo?
[04:35] <O2> I am in gnome, and I could see clearly that g++ has produced the helloworld file in the current directory, and I type helloworld, but it says command not found
[04:35] <adyeths> looks like everything is working.
[04:35] <chuckyp> man-of-christ, negative on the streaming video on restricted codecs
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> O2, its ./helloworld ...
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> pls do not make me cry ...
[04:35] <chuckyp> !tell man-of-christ about restricted
[04:36] <crimsun> O2: '.' (the current directory) is not in the default $PATH for security "best practices"
[04:36] <O2> g++ helloworld.cpp -o ./helloworld     ,right?
[04:36] <man-of-christ> realplayer is useless,helix player the same  vlc suck i got nothing to play online streaming not even mplayer....is there something that works  also i read some repos had mplayer etc.. to watch  streamming a found nothing
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> i should change my nick to crying puppy ...
[04:36] <crimsun> O2: no, when you execute it, i.e., ./helloworld
[04:36] <chuckyp> wickedpuppy, I can't believe you are still trying.
[04:36] <O2> but I double click helloworld, and nothing happen
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> O2, you already have the program ... pls type ./helloworld to run it
[04:37] <O2> oh, .... :P
[04:37] <chuckyp> O2, g++ helloworld.cpp -o isuck  then hit return then you would type ./isuck to execute the program
[04:37] <haploid_> chuckyp, yes
[04:37] <O2> godness!    the console's current directory' problem
[04:37] <man-of-christ> also ubuntu comes with sudo.... is that like yum or more difficult?
[04:37] <haploid_> chuckyp, this isn't a read permissions issue
[04:37] <ks1> pwd
[04:38] <chuckyp> wickedpuppy, you know he's probably doing this just to compile scripts.  rofl
[04:38] <crimsun> man-of-christ: sudo is similar to su, so it's not related to yum
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:38] <ErrantEgo> now theres someone local...
[04:38] <man-of-christ> i tryied su - password and it didnt work
[04:38] <ErrantEgo> who the hell was tict
[04:38] <adyeths> I just have to say.... this is is easier to install than it was to get xp up and running. (and xp was already installed!)
[04:38] <O2> lol......
[04:38] <O2> how fool i am
[04:38] <crimsun> man-of-christ: right, you have to use sudo by default, e.g., sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> O2, pls .. if you ask for help .. pls follow us .. if we screw up then pls blame us .. but pls do as we say for once .. just once pls ...
[04:39] <tict> who wants to help me add a physical volume to an LVM group!
[04:39] <JFreakCapo> hello, how change screen resolution without reboot
[04:39] <crimsun> tict: you do!
[04:39] <man-of-christ> well anywho i'll give  alternative cd a try hoepfullly it will install i will DL and try to install tomorrow.. ty all for your help.
[04:39] <O2> wickedpuppy:   sorry for my misunderstood.
[04:39] <O2> wickedpuppy: Thanks! :P
[04:39] <man-of-christ> is good to see a distro taht actually supports...  :-)
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> O2, its ok ... np ... its a newbie programmer mistake on linux .. :P
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> but if you were on ##C you will be flamed to no end ...
[04:40] <tict> crimson: well yes, but I tried helping me and I am stuck
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> or ##C++
[04:40] <man-of-christ> ty
[04:40] <tict> er, crimsun.  not crimson
[04:40] <adyeths> thanks guys for your help. it seems my paranoia was for nothing (obviously. heh)
[04:40] <dabaR> JFreakCapo: restart the X server, alt-ctrl-bkspc
[04:41] <chuckyp> adyeths, you already installed?
[04:41] <JFreakCapo> dabaR, how restart the xserver ??
[04:41] <adyeths> its installing right now.
[04:41] <Jesse1984> hey guys, just wanting some help.. I can't get my internet connection working in ubuntu 6.06, when i booted from th elive cd internet was working fine, but i had trouble installing with live to i installed with alternate instead (wich worked perfect) but now the internet is not working. I have ADSL direct connection, cords are plugged in all should be good ???
[04:41] <adyeths> 42% it says. copying files right now.
[04:41] <ks1> if you added modes you can kill the X server, but if they are already installed you can ctrl-alt- + or - to cycle through them
[04:41] <O2> wickedpuppy: what is ##C ?
[04:42] <chuckyp> adyeths, ahh cool.  Make sure it boots after install
[04:42] <chuckyp> O2, the c support channel
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> O2, join and be amazed by geekness
[04:42] <chuckyp> O2, /join ##C
[04:42] <Cassandra> thanks and bye!
[04:42] <adyeths> it should. the live cd booted just fine.
[04:42] <O2> why is it not #C, but ##C ?
[04:42] <Ma1> Hey I really need a way to burn video DVD very fast! I made a movie and I present it tomorow!!
[04:42] <dabaR> Jesse1984: have you ran the "sudo pppoeconf" command?
[04:43] <chuckyp> O2, dunno probably so it comes up earlier on a channel list or #c was taken dunno really
[04:43] <Ma1> I tried QDVDAuthor
[04:43] <O2> I am new in Linux, but not C or C++
[04:43] <JFreakCapo> hello agian
[04:43] <Ma1> but it doesn't work, it gives me that error : INFO: Locale=fr_CA.UTF-8
[04:43] <Ma1> INFO: Converting filenames to UTF-8
[04:43] <Ma1> ERR:  Cannot parse video option '1.5:1'
[04:43] <chuckyp> Ma1, did you try Places>CD/DVD creator?
[04:44] <Ma1> chuckyp, no i will
[04:44] <dabaR> O2: the name comes out of the fact that freenode, the server this and the other rooms are hosted on reserves #name for the official name channel, and ##name is an unoficial, what they call an about channel
[04:44] <JFreakCapo> how change screen resolution without re-boot ??
[04:44] <Ma1> chuckyp, the name of the sorftware is CD/DVD creator?
[04:44] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, in console or gnome?
[04:44] <O2> dabaR: oh,,,,clearly now
[04:44] <JFreakCapo> gnome
[04:45] <dabaR> JFreakCapo: restart the X server using ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:45] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, system > preferences > screen resolution
[04:45] <dabaR> JFreakCapo: try his way first
[04:45] <ks1> or you can ctrl-alt-"+/-"
[04:45] <jshamash66> Can anyone help me figure out why windows XP computers on my network cannot access my Ubuntu pc's shared folders?
[04:45] <jshamash66>  It tells me it's 'not accessible', and it's not a firewall problem because both computers can ping each other
[04:45] <Jesse1984> dabaR: ohhh i found on a website that it was sudo pppoecinfig! they had it wrong.. ill try it now.. thanks
[04:45] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, if you need to restart x you can ctrl+alt+backspace or ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a text terminal and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:46] <ks1> as long as the modes are listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:46] <chuckyp> jshamash66, are you using samba?
[04:46] <jshamash66> chuckyp: yeah
[04:46] <sidny4> samba is fun
[04:47] <jshamash66> chuckyp: XP is finding my Ubuntu computer, it just won't browse it
[04:47] <chuckyp> jshamash66, hrm... well maybe a user problem.
[04:47] <JFreakCapo> chucky i don't want to restart the X, just change resolution for a while
[04:47] <chuckyp> jshamash66, haven't used samba in a long time so I'm not really qualified to help you.
[04:47] <jshamash66> chuckyp: ok, thanks anyway
[04:47] <ks1> JFreakCapo: ctrl-alt-"plus/minus" on the num pad.
[04:47] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, do you see the option under preferences to change it?
[04:47] <sidny4> !sshd
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <link_36p> Im experiencing lock ups on lockin with an ati card.
[04:47] <cpk2> jshamash66: there is a really good forum post howto for samba
[04:47] <dabaR> !openssh-server
[04:47] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[04:48] <sidny4> that's what it was
[04:48] <jshamash66> cpk2: should i just do a search for samba howto?
[04:48] <dabaR> sure 's
[04:48] <tict> hey jsmash66, I don't know a lot about samba, but I did manage to get a server working
[04:48] <chuckyp> jshamash66, there is a samba howto in the wiki
[04:48] <tict> *jshamash66
[04:48] <chuckyp> !tell jshamash66 about samba
[04:48] <JFreakCapo> chuckyp, yes i find it thks
[04:48] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, np
[04:49] <cpk2> chuckyp: I am pretty sure the forum post is alot easier to follow =)
[04:49] <chuckyp> !samba
[04:49] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:49] <Ma1> hey anybody, i need a way to burn a video DVD please!!
[04:49] <O2> If I want to use c, not c++, what should I do?
[04:49] <chuckyp> !tell mal about dvd
[04:49] <JFreakCapo> tkhs to all
[04:49] <JFreakCapo> see ya
[04:49] <jshamash66> chuckyp: I've configured my Samba pretty well, everyone is in the same workgroup and everything, I think it may be a username/password problem
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> O2, gcc ...
[04:50] <O2> #include <stdio>  int main(){ printf("hello
[04:50] <sys6656> Hello.. How do I have differnt wallpaper for each Workspace? Please.
[04:50] <O2> #include <stdio>  int main(){ printf("hello";}  ?
[04:50] <pacman> anyone have any experience with torcs?
[04:50] <Ma1> !tell ma1 about dvd
[04:50] <cpk2> jshamash66: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[04:50] <THX-1138> what is the password for a windows machine that logs in locally without one?
[04:50] <wickedpuppy> O2, ... you never return 0 ... i caught you there
[04:50] <chuckyp> jshamash66, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[04:51] <O2> #include <stdio>  int main(){ printf("hello"; return 0;}  ?
[04:51] <cpk2> jshamash66: that tells you how to set up users for samba too
[04:51] <chuckyp> jshamash66, yeah thats what I was saying earlier probably a permission problem but samba gets screwy some times with which computer is the nameserver.
[04:51] <THX-1138> setting a login just so samba works will drive my wife nuts
[04:51] <jshamash66> does anyone know if this is right: I used command smbpasswd -a USER, where user is the XP user trying to access the folders
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> O2, stdio.h
[04:51] <jshamash66> oh ok ill check the forums
[04:51] <pacman> ??
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> O2, and it should be "hello\n"
[04:52] <cpk2> jshamash66: not quite, read the forum post i linked you, it will tell you how to add users for samba
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> that will put the newline character
[04:52] <goofey> hi all - does the ubuntu lamp server install include everything the ubuntu server install would?
[04:52] <O2> gcc helloworld.c -o helloworldc
[04:52] <tict> Whoo!
[04:52] <jbmigel> cpk2 can you drop that link again i just got here and also need it
[04:52] <O2> yeah.....
[04:52] <cpk2> jbmigel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 =)
[04:52] <O2> success!
[04:53] <jbmigel> cpk2 thanks
[04:53] <cpk2> THX-1138: you might be amazed at how simple that guy makes setting up samba!
[04:53] <O2> wickedpuppy: thanks!!
[04:53] <chuckyp> O2, there are also gui environments to use for developing etc...  dunno what you are used to..
[04:53] <tict> so... I figured out the lvm thing.  good call, crimsun... sort of
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> O2, good for ya .. np np  ...
[04:53] <THX-1138> cpk2 - i have two left feet.
[04:53] <O2> wickedpuppy: my good teacher!
[04:53] <adyeths> ok, time to restart... thanks again!
[04:53] <THX-1138> Hi crimsun
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> O2, i am a noob as you .. i just know no more than helloworld .. lol
[04:53] <O2> gcc is much faster than g++ !
[04:54] <Jesse1984> hey guys i tried the pppoeconf command and it didnt work, it found the router but said it couldnt configue it properly.. any ideas?
[04:54] <sys6656> Hi.. How do I have differnt wallpaper for each Workspace? Please.
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> O2, may i suggest you do a bit of bash scripting too ?
[04:54] <THX-1138> crimsun can i pester you some more? - Thanks again for being here to answer questions.
[04:54] <Tokenbad> anyone here played quake 4 on ubuntu...i installed it...started it....it flashed and goes back to normal screen with error
[04:54] <mooseman447> can ubuntu use nx server?
[04:55] <O2> wickedpuppy: I didn't start learning linux shell scripting yet!
[04:55] <Squee> Is it possible when using Ubuntu as your dhcp server to block a mac adress from getting an IP?
[04:55] <O2> I would like to learn it!
[04:55] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - dunno. same thing happened here. - gawd i hope it isn't some kind of copy protection.
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> O2, i suggest bash -> ruby/python/perl -> c .. that will make things very easy
[04:55] <acetech747> does anyone know the best method of having a dual output on an nforce3 chipset mobo for optical and headphone output
[04:56] <THX-1138> Hi Amaranth
[04:57] <goofey> does the ubuntu lamp server install include everything the ubuntu server install would (ie: nfs, samba, cups etc)?
[04:57] <chuckyp> !tell Jesse1984 about dsl
[04:57] <THX-1138> it's vewy quiet twonite
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> samba and cups are not in lamp stack
[04:57] <wladston> I know maybe this is not the place, but ....... anyone knows how can I send emails from @domain.org, and NOT from @server.domain.org ? I'm unsure about editing the configuration file ....Am I safe to change the myhostname setting ? Is this what I have to change ?
[04:57] <Tokenbad> THX-1138, what error did you get?
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> neither is nfs ...
[04:57] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, what type of video card and do you have drivers installed?
[04:57] <Pelo> good evening folks ?
[04:57] <Tokenbad> I have nvidia 5700 lx with 256 megs of ram
[04:57] <Pelo> anyone know what those little icons you can add to folders and documents are called  in english ?
[04:57] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, which driver are you using?
[04:58] <chuckyp> Pelo, thumbnails
[04:58] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - it installed. tried to play the intro normally . (it was fscked) and then just when i was about to play. the screen just vanished.
[04:58] <goofey> wickedpuppy: ok - thanks - then is it possible to add lamp to ubuntu server install?  (I assume samba and cups are part of standard server install...)
[04:58] <Pelo> thanks you chuckyp  and do you know if it is possible to add more ?
[04:58] <chuckyp> goofey, yes its possible
[04:58] <cpk2> !lamp
[04:58] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> goofey, are you using alternative cd ? i don't know the contents there ...
[04:59] <chuckyp> Pelo, dunno
[04:59] <chuckyp> Pelo, whats you native language?
[04:59] <Pelo> french
[04:59] <chuckyp> !fr
[04:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:59] <goofey> chuckyp: excellent - thanks
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> goofey, of course you can always install via apt-get
[04:59] <Pelo> tks
[04:59] <chuckyp> Pelo, they may be able to help you more
[04:59] <Jbirk> is xgl easy to install?
[04:59] <goofey> wickedpuppy: i'm using the standart 6.10 beta server cd
[04:59] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, the normal nvidia driver for ubuntu I guess
[04:59] <chuckyp> !tell Jbirk about xgl
[05:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, well if you never installed a driver that is your issue
[05:00] <Tokenbad> THX-1138, did you get an error
[05:00] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, I get the nvidia screen when I boot
[05:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, you can try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx or you could download the one from nvidia.com
[05:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, hrm...
[05:00] <Squee> Is it possible when using Ubuntu as your dhcp server to block a mac adress from getting an IP?
[05:00] <THX-1138> Tokenbad it was over two months ago. - i have forgotten
[05:00] <Tokenbad> its the driver they tell you to install at the wiki
[05:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, I would make sure glx is working.  i.e. run glxgears and glxinfo
[05:01] <acetech747> anyone know the best method of configuring alsa to go to two outputs?
[05:01] <esac> glxgears -info is helpful too
[05:01] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - World of /warcraft works. - not well enough for raiding.
[05:01] <goofey> wickedpuppy: true - i just want to make sure to get the nice integrated setup that comes from the lamp server install
[05:01] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, glxgears gives this: 6985 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1389.692 FPS
[05:01] <Tokenbad> then it keeps updating
[05:02] <Tokenbad> 282351 frames in 5.0 seconds = 56470.156 FPS
[05:02] <Tokenbad> see
[05:02] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - what is the command line argument for glxgears to spit out a framerate
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> goofey, lamp is not just one server ... so its hard to say what does intergration means here ... work together yes
[05:02] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, did the little gears come up?
[05:02] <goofey> wickedpuppy: i agree 100% - this page (http://www.ubuntu.com/server) says: The LAMP option saves the trouble of installing and integrating each of the four separate LAMP components,
[05:02] <JFreakCapo> hello, please, what plugin install to see dvd movies with totem or kafeine ??
[05:03] <chuckyp> THX-1138, it should spit out the fps every 5 seconds or so but if not there is a switch for it.
[05:03] <chuckyp> !tell JFreakCapo about dvd
[05:03] <THX-1138> chuckyp - seems like the dev dislikes anyone using t as a "benchmark" - keeps the command changing
[05:03] <acetech747> how do i config in ubuntu to be able to use desktop speakers and optical output at the same time?
[05:04] <JFreakCapo> chuckyp, what means !tell about dvd i don't understand....
[05:04] <ice63> well i use mplayer with mozilla-plugin
[05:04] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, the only thing I would try is to install the nvidia.com drivers
[05:04] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, read the message from ubotu
[05:04] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, if I type !tell blah about something ubotu will message you about that.  ubotu is a bot that has a lot of ubuntu information
[05:04] <chuckyp> !tell JFreakCapo about ubotu
[05:05] <MaKaTiGuY> i have a question, why is it when i install ubuntu  6.10, it hangs
[05:05] <chuckyp> 6.10?
[05:05] <JFreakCapo> ahh but where is that bot ??
[05:05] <jachyra> hi all, how do I permanently set my PATH as opposed to changing it during one session?
[05:05] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, in the channel
[05:05] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - What was the command for glxgears fpsinfo?
[05:05] <MaKaTiGuY> yes, the beta version
[05:05] <kitche> MaKaTiGuY: ask in #ubuntu+1 it's the beta channel
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> THX-1138, glxgears -printfps
[05:05] <goofey> chuckyp: thanks for the ubuntu server help!
[05:05] <cpk2> THX-1138: glxgears -printfps
[05:05] <JFreakCapo> chuckyp, i don't see nothing about dvd...
[05:05] <MaKaTiGuY> k tnx
[05:05] <goofey> wickedpuppy: thanks for the ubuntu server help!
[05:05] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, the message from the bot should be in a different tab or window unless you are blocking messages  you could try typing /msg ubotu dvd and it will tell you about dvd's
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> goofey, np
[05:06] <THX-1138> cool - thanks :)
[05:06] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, which irc program are you using?
[05:06] <JFreakCapo> chuckyp, xchat
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> JFreakCapo, have you registered ? or if so identified ?
[05:06] <JFreakCapo> chuckyp, i see, i found it thks. i don't understand
[05:06] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, yeah there should be a tab called ubotu on your screen
[05:07] <JFreakCapo> wickedpuppy, i'm register
[05:07] <MaKaTiGuY> k tnx wicked
[05:07] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, ubotu is a computer with a whole bunch of comonly asked questions stored makes it easier for us.
[05:07] <jachyra> can someone plz tell me how to permanently set my PATH env variable?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> JFreakCapo, identified ?
[05:07] <shido> i dont know why ....i install any theme...and the colors are always the "human" colors.... its always kinda orange brownie....no matter what theme i select, for example...if the window borders are supposed to be blue, they remain "human" anyway
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> jachyra, edit .bashrc
[05:07] <JFreakCapo> wickedpuppy, i type always /msg nickserver identify...
[05:07] <THX-1138> yowser - glx/xcompmgr/transset eats performance
[05:07] <jachyra> wickedpuppy: where can i find this file?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> JFreakCapo, then you should see ubotu messaging you
[05:07] <ChocoCid> shido : go to system-preferences-theme to actually set the theme
[05:08] <zam> when im tring to install kubuntu i have format my home /dev and im in big trabil now ; can any one tell me about recovry tool that i can use pleases ?
[05:08] <chuckyp> !dvd
[05:08] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> jachyra, at your home ... no this is not a joke ...
[05:08] <shido> thanks ChocoCid
[05:08] <JFreakCapo> wickedpuppy, yes thanks i see, thks a lot
[05:08] <ChocoCid> downloading the theme isn't enough, you of course have to turn it on :)
[05:08] <chuckyp> JFreakCapo, there  look at the message from ubotu with links
[05:08] <jachyra> wickedpuppy: thankyouuu!!!!
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> jachyra, np
[05:08] <chuckyp> zam, what do you mean you want to recover files that were in /home?
[05:09] <chuckyp> zam, and you formated the partition?
[05:09] <shido> yea ChocoCid ...i've installed tons of themes before....and used em....and now i dont know why...suddenly... when i change the theme...no matter what theme is..the colors remain human, the shapes and everything change...bu the colors remain "human"
[05:09] <ChocoCid> hrm.
[05:09] <ChocoCid> click theme details and poke around in there
[05:10] <shido> yea....i've poked alot everywhere...this is really strange
[05:11] <zam> chuckyp: i used to use asoft wear in windows to recover the rwong format their must be at least one work with linux
[05:11] <chuckyp> zam, well doing some google searching I see a program called nucleus
[05:11] <THX-1138> DigitalDark-2-Blue-1.2 - Black as night easy on the eyes.
[05:11] <chuckyp> zam, Dunno how well it will do though I've never had to do that.
[05:12] <THX-1138> zam - haven't tried it yet. - "testdisk"
[05:12] <THX-1138> penguin sleuth kit - may have what you need
[05:12] <ferger> knix
[05:12] <chuckyp> zam, but definately I would stop using the disk if you are running off the reinstall.  Boot from a live cd and try to recover the files.
[05:13] <chuckyp> zam, to avoid this in the future you may want to look in to creating  a seperate /home partition.
[05:13] <chuckyp> zam, then you can reinstall with out worring
[05:14] <czer323> Is there an easy command I can use to trash empty folders recursively?
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> you got to do bash script ...
[05:15] <Tru7h> How can I install fonts on Ubuntu?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> czer323,  you mean all ussers trash cans? or somthing else.
[05:15] <DigitalNinja> What's a good ammount of RAM for a workstation? This will be used for Internet, email, word processing and some photo editing
[05:15] <czer323> Dr_willis, I"m organizing my mp3s, and it's leaving a bunch of empty folders.  I just want to sort through them easier.
[05:15] <user__> hey ppl can u help me i need to know how to get a music downloader for ubuntu
[05:15] <THX-1138> !fonts
[05:15] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[05:15] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[05:16] <THX-1138> user_ - music downloader? - like scrape band sites for music?
[05:16] <MaKaTiGuY> which is stable? the new beta release 6.10 or the older one
[05:17] <user__> like mp3 sumthin along the lines of limewire
[05:17] <chuckyp> !tell user about p2p
[05:17] <THX-1138> user_ - azureus?
[05:17] <chuckyp> !tell user__ about p2p
[05:17] <kitche> MaKaTiGuY: umm the one that is out now since Edgy is coming out toward the end of the month
[05:17] <user__> can u help me install it iam new wit this program
[05:17] <MaKaTiGuY> kitche: teh beta version?
[05:17] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, 6.06
[05:18] <bimberi> MaKaTiGuY: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper) is the current stable release
[05:18] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, dapper is the stable release
[05:18] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, yeah the gears came up
[05:18] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, edgy is the beta development release
[05:18] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, well the only other thing I would try is maybe the nviida drivers from nvidia.com
[05:18] <chuckyp> !tell Tokenbad about nvidia
[05:18] <MaKaTiGuY> so for the meantime i should stick to the 6.06?
[05:18] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, ye
[05:19] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, s/ye/yes
[05:19] <Tokenbad> what does all the stuff glxinfo shows mean?
[05:19] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: have you tried the beta?
[05:19] <user__> can some one transfer the file to me
[05:19] <krypto84sv> join #linux.org.sv
[05:19] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, well there is  string you can grep from there to make sure glx is working.  but if gears work I think you can assume the glx is working.
[05:19] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, yes i'm running it now
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> user__, sudo apt-get install azureus
[05:20] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, edgy support is in #ubuntu+1
[05:20] <THX-1138> glxinfo | grep direct
[05:20] <chuckyp> THX-1138, thats it ty
[05:20] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, yeah what THX-1138 said
[05:20] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: how is it?
[05:20] <Megaqwerty> is there a way I can check if my laptop has bluetooth? Like a bash command?
[05:20] <Tokenbad> but I have the drivers from the url...
[05:20] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, nice some nice improvements.
[05:20] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: like what?
[05:20] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, what did he say?
[05:21] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, but when it comes out later this month you willb e able to upgrade to it via a simple command
[05:21] <Tokenbad> oh..nevermind see it
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> Megaqwerty, check the laptop spec ? surely you got the spec when you bought it right ?
[05:21] <THX-1138> !bluetooth > Megaqwerty
[05:21] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, glxinfo | grep direct         thats the command to see if direct rendering is working.
[05:21] <user__> i dont understand
[05:21] <Tokenbad> if it says direct rendering no...how do I turn it on?
[05:21] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: so you min to say, i should install 6.06 first
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> user__, type it to get azureus
[05:21] <Tokenbad> had quake 4 working on here before
[05:21] <THX-1138> hcitool for bluetooth?
[05:21] <chuckyp> user__, transfer what file to you?
[05:22] <user__> typ it wher
[05:22] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, what has changed since you had it working?
[05:22] <user__> p2p
[05:22] <Tokenbad> reinstalled ubuntu...and reinstalled driver
[05:22] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, well if you can't afford to be unstable yes.
[05:22] <THX-1138> hcitool ;)
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> user__, in command line ... you want azureus , bittorrent client right ? that will download and install it for you
[05:22] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, they could impliment an update that would render your system unusable with edgy unless you really know what you are doing.
[05:22] <user__> i need a p2p that i can download mp3's
[05:23] <DigitalNinja> Is there a GUI tool for configuring X and monitors? I haven't seen one.
[05:23] <chuckyp> user__, like which one?  what did you use in windows?
[05:23] <user__> limewire
[05:23] <chuckyp> DigitalNinja, yeah
[05:23] <THX-1138> !wares
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> user__, we do not encourage piracy here ...
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <DigitalNinja> chukyp: what is it?
[05:23] <Jbirk> I installed xgl I think
[05:23] <guest829> Hello!
[05:23] <Jbirk> I installed the xserver-xgl
[05:23] <newbuntu> hello
[05:23] <guest829> I need help using WPE, can anyone assist?
[05:24] <Jbirk> how do I know if xgl is working?
[05:24] <chuckyp> user__, i'm pretty sure there is a limewire version for linux
[05:24] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: ok thanks, im planning to get a suse linux enterprise, but i read the survey that ubuntu is the #1 linux desktop
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGuY, sled is super cool ...
[05:24] <O2> why most linux programming books only talks about gcc, not including g++
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> i suggest you check that out
[05:24] <user__> there is but  i cant open it to use it after i installed it
[05:24] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, yeah definately check it out.  You could always download a live cd and boot it to play around.  The install cd is bootable as a live cd.
[05:24] <Tru7h> How to install fonts?
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> O2, you can compile c++ with gcc too
[05:25] <chuckyp> !tell Tru7h about fonts
[05:25] <O2> really ?
[05:25] <newbuntu> I love ubuntu , but a problem I keep having is that artsd seems to take over the sound system, causing me to lose sound... I even got a new soundcard but I keep losing sound for no reason, can anyone help me with some good advice?
[05:25] <tict> okay, new question: I want to reference a computer (which has it's ip assigned by dhcp) by a name instead of an ip.  where do I start?
[05:25] <THX-1138> !fonts > Tru7h
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> O2, there is a switch i think .. i never bother to know ... i use g++ for c++ and gcc for c ... fine for me
[05:25] <newbuntu> I have disabled system sounds, but that doesnt seem to help
[05:25] <chuckyp> O2, want to really read something type "man gcc" in console to read the manual pages for it.  Its pretty powerfull.
[05:25] <O2> thaen what's the different of g++ to gcc
[05:25] <ks1> C/C++
[05:26] <O2> gcc can compile c++ classes program?
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> O2, one got ++ and one got cc ...
[05:26] <kitche> O2: gcc just calls on g++ pretty much when you compile C++ programs
[05:26] <O2> I know, C++ has classes that C doesn't!
[05:26] <ks1> man gcc
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> O2, that you got to man gcc or use google .. we are no compiler expert here
[05:26] <O2> oh... I know now.
[05:27] <O2> :P  ok
[05:27] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, reinatalled ubuntu and reinstalled the driver
[05:27] <O2> I am a programmer though, hehe
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> O2, windows programmer ?
[05:28] <O2> yes! right
[05:28] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, hrm... what was the error you were getting?
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> O2, cause honestly , anyone who done helloworld in bash or perl won't make that ./helloworld mistake ...
[05:28] <O2> I start learning linux just a few weeks.
[05:28] <esac> is there a way to run a program at a -20 niceness as a normal user ? if i do 'sudo nice -n -20 command' will that not run the command as su ?
[05:28] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: have you tried the suse linux entrprse?
[05:29] <chuckyp> esac, yes it will run it as root
[05:29] <O2>  :)   but that mistake isn't so important, i think
[05:29] <esac> is there a way to not run it as root ? or is my only option to renice it ?
[05:29] <user__> hey chucky can u assist me wit installin that aruz thingy
[05:29] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, I've tried suse once  but ubuntu has pretty much taken over my linux partition.
[05:29] <O2> I will learn script programming on linux later.
[05:30] <chuckyp> user__, sudo apt-get install azureus
[05:30] <user__> where doi type that
[05:30] <chuckyp> user__, or you can click on system > administration > synaptic package manager              and search for azureus
[05:30] <O2> wickedpuppy, why is scripting so important on linux ?
[05:30] <user__> ok
[05:30] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: does ubuntu support 3d desktop?
[05:31] <O2> dont cry for agintina...
[05:31] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, yes you mean xgl/compiz?
[05:31] <MaKaTiGuY> yes
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> O2, cause you will be coming back for more questions ... shell is very tightly intergrated with everything on linux ...
[05:31] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, well there is #ubuntu-xgl for support but yes it works in it.
[05:31] <MaKaTiGuY> cool
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> O2, you need to know how to change path , fidn files , grep lines from source codes... may i ask how you going to do that without knowing bash inside out ?
[05:32] <O2> as far as I know,  what I write with shell script is what I input in the terminal, only so, right?
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> of course there are IDEs ... but any linux geek worth his salt knows emacs or vi ...
[05:32] <ChocoCid> i need to learn vi instead of just using gedit all the time :(
[05:32] <user__> chucky it says it cant find it
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> O2, nope ... shell scripting has entirely its own languages and such... think of it as basic ... simple but powerful
[05:33] <ChocoCid> ...but man, looking at vi looks like a pain :(
[05:33] <O2> Oh, it smells like DOS .BAT file...
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> ChocoCid, vi is easy ...
[05:33] <chuckyp> O2, yeah
[05:33] <ChocoCid> i don't know the keys heh
[05:33] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26132/
[05:33] <Jesse1984> hi - i am in ubuntu netowrk tools, trying to configure my ethernet interface so i can get the net working.. but the configure button is grayed out.. does anyone know how i can gain access to this button?
[05:33] <chuckyp> O2, you can compare it to .bat but its much more powerfull.
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> ChocoCid, vimtutor
[05:34] <O2> :P  I got it!
[05:34] <totall_6_7> ChocoCid: gedit works fine for me, i dont know why you would want to pull your hair out using vi
[05:34] <ChocoCid> hah
[05:34] <k0rd> hmm
[05:34] <O2> then how much more powerfull is it than dos .bat file?
[05:34] <poningru> k0rd: 6.1.6?
[05:34] <k0rd> hey
[05:34] <k0rd> yeah
[05:34] <poningru> thats not...
[05:34] <VistaL> HI ALLL
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> O2, can .bad do program scheduling ?
[05:34] <VistaL> HEY k0rd
[05:34] <k0rd> or 6.0.6
[05:35] <k0rd> let me see
[05:35] <ChocoCid> hrm, so without starting the vi vs emacs wars...
[05:35] <poningru> ok that makes more sense
[05:35] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, yeah definately appears to be a problem with your video driver.  Make sure nvidia-glx is installed if that doesn't work try the driver from nvidia.com
[05:35] <ChocoCid> what's the meta-key in ubuntu by default?
[05:35] <k0rd> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386
[05:35] <O2> I didn't know what it is....
[05:35] <tict> chococid, you could always try nano.  it works on the command line but is less complicated
[05:35] <ChocoCid> i've heard you need to know what the meta key is to be able to use emacs (and vi?)
[05:35] <VistaL> UBUNTU OWNUBUNTU ONLY FOR LEET PEOPLE WITH SECURE PROTECTIONS, THA REALZ HAX0R CR3W!!!
[05:35] <shido> does anybody know how can i reset the themes like when i first installed ubuntu?.... like removing them all?
[05:35] <VistaL> UBUNTU OWNUBUNTU ONLY FOR LEET PEOPLE WITH SECURE PROTECTIONS, THA REALZ HAX0R CR3W!!!
[05:35] <poningru> !op
[05:35] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:35] <chuckyp> ?
[05:35] <O2> wickedpuppy, in windows, there's no such "program scheduling", or I never meet
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> O2, i suggest you check out cron ... cron + bash = very very powerfuldoing things
[05:35] <ChocoCid> oh cool, nano is like DOS Edit
[05:35] <Dr_willis> ChocoCid,  emacs uses the escape key  and  alt or ctrl . I forget which.
[05:36] <gnomefreak> opps
[05:36] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: wrong one?
[05:36] <poningru> hehe
[05:36] <gnomefreak> yep
[05:36] <chuckyp> yes rythmbox crashed
[05:36] <k0rd> so...poningru, any suggestions?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> ty Hobbsee ;)
[05:36] <ChocoCid> er, wow, alt-escape works like alt-tab o_O
[05:36] <poningru> k0rd: on the boot screen there is an option
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> O2, for exmaple can you schedule this program to run at this time of the month ? cron is a scheduler .. so in cron you can run bash scripts on certain times .. like backup of your source code folder every monday morning ...
[05:36] <Jesse1984> hi - i am in ubuntu netowrk tools, trying to configure my ethernet interface so i can get the net working.. but the configure button is grayed out.. does anyone know how i can gain access to this button???....anyone....?
[05:36] <poningru> k0rd: to check the media
[05:36] <Jbirk> Where can I get help installing compiz?
[05:36] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, nvidia-glx is installed
[05:36] <O2> I think, linux is a very kind of server, which functions I seldom use in desktop windows.
[05:36] <poningru> !compiz
[05:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:36] <shido> mmm how can i log in as root from the login screen?
[05:37] <ChocoCid> !rootsudo
[05:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:37] <k0rd> poningru, I checked the directory it was in, with AdvancedChecksum and returned no errors?
[05:37] <totall_6_7> i mean if you are going to come in and flood a room with real text at least make it understandable
[05:37] <poningru> Jbirk: there is also a channe lfor it
[05:37] <ChocoCid> scroll down there, shido, but you really shouldn't unless you HAVE to
[05:37] <kitche> shido: you can't it's not allowed though the GUI login
[05:37] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, then I would try the driver from nvidia.com
[05:37] <poningru> k0rd: you have to check the enitre cd
[05:37] <ChocoCid> you can enable root, kitche
[05:37] <O2> wickedpuppy, Oh, god, that sound wonderful!
[05:37] <user__> is there a site that i can go 2 to download mp3 downloaders from
[05:37] <poningru> k0rd: it could be calling something else
[05:37] <ChocoCid> it's just strongly discouraged and turned off by default!
[05:37] <ChocoCid> !restricted formats
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <shido> i remember i once enable the option to log in as root... but i dont remember where
[05:37] <k0rd> how would I do that, sorry, really new to this
[05:37] <ChocoCid> user__ : go there
[05:37] <kitche> ChocoCid: umm yes but you can't log in as root though gdm or kdm
[05:38] <ChocoCid> uh
[05:38] <kmu> when i insert a cdrom into the drive, an icon appears on the desktop and i can browse it using gnome, but when i type `mount', i don't see anything. how can i view the contents of the cdrom from the command-line?
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> O2, then you are missing everything ... its like moving from basic to c ...  both are languages but you know which is more powerful ..
[05:38] <ChocoCid> yes you can heh
[05:38] <shido> yes kitche... you can
[05:38] <poningru> k0rd: just start up the cd and then using your arrow key go to the check cd option
[05:38] <shido> but you have to enable it somewhere
[05:38] <poningru> and press enter
[05:38] <ChocoCid> scroll down the the bottom of this page, shido: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:38] <k0rd> ok, i'll brb
[05:38] <shido> ok
[05:38] <O2> then I can schedule my everything done with scripting, and go and take coffee :)
[05:38] <shido> thanks ChocoCid
[05:38] <Jbirk> where do i get to compiz / XGL cannel?
[05:38] <ChocoCid> you have toe enable the root account as well as enable graphical login
[05:39] <shido> ChocoCid im doing this to delete my username and create it agaim...maybe this way i'll solve this Themes issue
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> O2, yes ... in fact a lot of commands , programs you use are bash scripts
[05:39] <poningru> #ubuntu-xgl
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> O2, you got apache on ubuntu ?
[05:39] <kitche> ChocoCid: shido guess you can, but it's a huge security risk
[05:39] <O2> Mmmm, I must learn it then!
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ChocoCid: bad advice to enable that
[05:40] <ChocoCid> he asked
[05:40] <ChocoCid> and i said it's a bad idea, the page says it's a bad idea
[05:40] <O2> I don't know. I only install with the desktop iso.  and g++
[05:40] <kitche> ChocoCid: shido since it logs your root password
[05:40] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: can you pls help me install 6.06? im new in ubuntu
[05:40] <shido> i've done it before...just to delete my username and create i again
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> O2, apache or mysql or samba ? nothing yet ? well go into /etc/init.d ... type less filename ... all are bash scripts
[05:40] <shido> cause this Themes wont change!
[05:41] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, just download and burn the iso to a cd.
[05:41] <kmu> anyone know how to view cdrom contents from the command-line?
[05:41] <kitche> shido: umm delete .gnome that hsould fix your problem
[05:41] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, boot to it.  then you can double click the install icon on the desktop
[05:41] <O2> wickedpuppy:  how could I put your name in front of the sentence automatically ?
[05:41] <chuckyp> kmu, ls
[05:41] <shido> mmm ok kitche... i'll try
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> O2, you can't but type wicke and press tab
[05:41] <shido> lets see :D
[05:41] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: k, tnx
[05:41] <chuckyp> kmu, you would have to mount the cdrom first then change directory to where its mounted and just use ls to list the contents
[05:42] <kitche> O2: type part of the name then press tab until it says his name :)
[05:42] <Tru7h> how to install sh?
[05:42] <skroll> sometimes I install a package that is just a .deb package and not in the repos that is a newer version then whats in the repos, and afterwards dont need it, is there a way to downgrade back to the repo version without it removing all sorts of other packages?
[05:42] <ChocoCid> i'm going to start using nano instead of gedit :D
[05:42] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, if you are installing on an older system if you download the alternate iso you can do a text based install instead of a graphical one.
[05:42] <shido> kitche... deleting .gnome and .gconf will reset the defaults?
[05:42] <O2> wickedpuppy: thanks! I can type less keys now! hehe
[05:42] <ChocoCid> tab complete also works in the shell
[05:42] <O2> kitche: thanks!
[05:42] <ChocoCid> for commands, filenames, etc
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> O2, bash also supports auto complete .. type l and press tab
[05:43] <kitche> shido: yeah you can backup the folder if you wish by doing cp -r <folder> <folder>.bak
[05:43] <ChocoCid> for instance: type sudo apt-get isn*tab* xch*tab*
[05:43] <chuckyp> skroll, hrm... removing a package without removing the dependancies?
[05:43] <O2> wickedpuppy: apache is written in bash?????????????
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> O2, no .. start-up script
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:43] <O2> wickedpuppy: lol
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> O2, sorry i confused ya.. nvm take things slowly ..
[05:44] <skroll> chuckyp: well, how about just downgrading the package back to the one in the repo
[05:44] <kmu> chuckyp, right, but i believe the cdrom is automounted and i can see it on the destop and view its contents from the gui. but when i type mount, it's not there. i can ls to /media/cdrom and i don't see anything. i'm not sure how this is working.
[05:44] <O2> wickedpuppy: bash supports auto complete.....which type of auto complete?
[05:44] <jachyra> hi all, i installed this program that required me to run a config script - it's failing at this point: configure:2200: gcc   -lcurses conftest.c  >&5
[05:44] <jachyra> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[05:44] <jachyra> do you know what might be wrong?
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> O2, type l and press tab
[05:44] <kmu> correction: i can cd to /media/cdrom and type ls and there is nothing
[05:44] <O2> wickedpuppy, what's nvm
[05:44] <O2> La_PaRCa
[05:44] <jachyra> ah didn;t paste properly nvm
[05:45] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, I know this prob stupid question...but nvidia has me confused as what driver to install
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> O2, nvm  = never mind .. didn't you ask me that before ?
[05:45] <chuckyp> skroll, yeah there is no way to remove it without removing the dependancies.  But if you do remove it the config files will remain
[05:45] <O2> I am using mIRC, what's relation with bash in linux?
[05:46] <O2> wickedpuppy: I am using mIRC, what's relation with bash in linux?
[05:46] <chuckyp> kmu, all you would have to do is type in ls /media/cdrom to see whats in the root of the cdrom.  or you could cd /media/cdrom and then type ls from there.
[05:46] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, what type of card again?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> O2, pls don't ask too much questions ... lol .. and i don't think you are using mirc .. i think you are using bash .. unless you are on windows now
[05:46] <Tokenbad> 5700 fx 256 megs of ram on it
[05:46] <robert_> how do I use dpkg-buildpkg to build one specific version of software?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> xchat
[05:46] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, 5700 fx 256 megs of ram on it
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> not bash
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[05:47] <jron> was prison break new tonight?
[05:47] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, is that a geforce card?
[05:47] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, yes
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> Tokenbad, weren't you downloading the driver at nvidia.com ?
[05:48] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8774.html
[05:48] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, assuming you aren't running 64bit version of dapper
[05:48] <O2> wickedpuppy:   lol, sorry for too many questions, maybe I misunderstood your words: type l and press TAB,
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> yes ... type l and press tab ...
[05:49] <O2> La_PaRCa
[05:49] <O2> wickedpuppy:  that's :La_PaRCa
[05:49] <wickedpuppy> why you keep calling La_PaRCa ?
[05:49] <wickedpuppy> type l and press tab in bash terminal ...
[05:49] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[05:49] <O2> wick
[05:49] <wickedpuppy> my mistake
[05:49] <chuckyp> Is there a way to hid rythmbox on minimize so that it doesn't show up on the applications list but it just shows up in the apptray?
[05:49] <O2> wickedpuppy:  LOL. LOL....
[05:49] <kmu> chuckyp, i did cd to /media/cdrom, then i typed ls, and don't see anything. i know there is stuff on the disk because i can browse the disk using gnome's file browser. the disk is labeled as an "audio disk" on the desktop.
[05:50] <ChocoCid> do "dir" maybe?
[05:50] <chuckyp> kmu, are you sure its mounted to /media/cdrom?
[05:50] <ChocoCid> or sudo ls
[05:50] <ChocoCid> and yeah, it'll need to be mounted
[05:50] <Jbirk> I get a problem
[05:50] <Jbirk> Depends: compiz-plugins
[05:50] <Jbirk> any idea?
[05:50] <ChocoCid> sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins
[05:50] <O2> wickedpuppy: you're ubuntu linux master...I want to try xgl 3d desktop...
[05:51] <ChocoCid> that'll take care of the dependencies for you (hopefully)
[05:51] <chuckyp> O2, read up the wiki on xgl pretty good step by step howto
[05:52] <wickedpuppy> O2, try ... but i think you should do bash basic first .. its very important .. or you can speak our language
[05:52] <wickedpuppy> can't*
[05:52] <Collin> how do I place sshd in my startup before I log in
[05:52] <O2> chuckyp: could I get xgl by:   apt-get xgl?
[05:52] <chuckyp> !tell Collin about ssh
[05:52] <kmu> chuckyp, no, i'm not. it's automounted when i insert it into the computer. when i type mount, i don't see cdrom listed.
[05:52] <chuckyp> O2, its not quite that simple
[05:52] <O2> wickedpuppy:  :P  speed your language??  whats the meaning
[05:53] <chuckyp> kmu, can you post the output of typing mount to pastebin
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> O2, you will know when you do XGL .. you be hacking xorg.conf ..
[05:53] <chuckyp> !paste
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <ChocoCid> eh, the XGL installs (if they work) are just copy-paste over and over
[05:53] <ChocoCid> it's when something does wrong that you need to know what's going on
[05:53] <rahmiel> In a lot of my music and video files during play, the bass seems a little too much, or if it gets too loud the bass crackles and distorts... anyone encounter this?
[05:54] <O2> wickedpuppy: you mean if I dont learn bash first, xgl will be difficult, right>
[05:54] <O2> ?
[05:54] <shido> well... in the root's session the color of the themes change... but in my session the color of any theme remains "human" :(
[05:54] <chuckyp> rahmiel, no but the crackling and distortion should be from your speakers not able to handle the bass
[05:54] <chuckyp> O2, yes
[05:54] <_Er1K_> clipping
[05:54] <user__> i need the link to go to a site to download p2p music downloader
[05:54] <chuckyp> O2, bash is essential.  basic linux commands will help you a lot.
[05:54] <_Er1K_> if that is what is happening, it will damage your speakers and stuff in the long term as well
[05:54] <chuckyp> !p2p
[05:54] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:55] <O2> xorg.conf contains bash scripts??
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> O2, no .. i mean you wil not understand when we talk about technical things ... put it this way a business manager got to know business lingo like shares and stocks and options right ?
[05:55] <chuckyp> user__, there try the link ubotu posted
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> same for you .. you got to learn the linux speak
[05:55] <rahmiel> chuckyp, always a possibility, but  this problem only occured when I switched to dapper. The forum shows a few others encountering this problem but no replies.
[05:55] <user__> k thanx
[05:55] <shido> how can i delete my username and create it again?... i forgot how LOL
[05:55] <loper06> how can set different default root dir for different users in proftpd?
[05:56] <chuckyp> rahmiel, what problem i'm sorry don't remember?
[05:56] <esj> what package is sasl
[05:56] <Collin> I want to sshd to startup before I even log in. How can I do that?
[05:56] <esj> oops
[05:56] <kitche> loper06: use a chroot
[05:56] <chuckyp> shido, userdel
[05:56] <kmu> chuckyp, sure http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26133/
[05:56] <loper06> kitche: how?
[05:56] <shido> thanks chuckyp
[05:56] <O2> wickedpuppy, oh, thats why I don't understand all what you say!
[05:56] <esj> saslauthd  what package is it in?
[05:57] <chuckyp> kmu, I don't see the cd as being mounted
[05:57] <Tomcat_> esj: apt-cache search saslauthd
[05:57] <O2> OK, I will learn bash first. maybe in the weekend I will try xgl :P
[05:57] <Tomcat_> esj: Mh... no result. Check packages.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <kitche> loper06: ah ubuntu odoesn't have a chroot package for it
[05:58] <rahmiel> chuckyp, similar problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194435&highlight=bass
[05:58] <wickedpuppy> O2, yes .. and thats why you got to start speaking like us .. no more windows speak ... running a file in linux is way different from running in windows.. its not just double click ..you got to check it has +x and if not chmod +x file ... do you know what i am saying ?
[05:58] <esj> k  was getting nada by other methods as well
[05:58] <chuckyp> rahmiel, hrm.. there is a mixer you can adjust that stuff on trying to remember the name of it.
[05:58] <O2> wickedpuppy: my GMA900 VIDEO CARD,  is it enough for running xgl?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> O2, its not gforce or ati ? how much graphics memory it comes with ?
[05:59] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: im getting errors while intalling 6.06
[05:59] <O2> wickedpuppy, what's chmod?
[05:59] <kmu> chuckyp, i know, that's what's frustrating. the cd icon is on my desktop and i'm playing a cda from it right now.
[05:59] <ChocoCid> change mode
[05:59] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, I tried to install the drivers...and it says need gcc dev and/or libc dev files...I checked synaptic and libc dev files seems to be installed but I can't find gcc dev files
[05:59] <ChocoCid> it changes the permissions on your file
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> O2, next thing you learn is man .. man chmod
[05:59] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, what sort of errors?
[05:59] <MaKaTiGuY> logical block
[05:59] <esj> sasl2-bin
[05:59] <chuckyp> kmu, hrm.. well you need to find out where its mounting it to  maybe try sudo ls /media/cdrom
[06:00] <rahmiel> chuckyp, I found some pointing to alsamixer, but when I use it in terminal it states 'no mixer elems found'
[06:00] <ChocoCid> in windows, you use .exe to denote an executable file, in linux you have 3 permissions: read/write/execute, for three sets of users
[06:00] <chuckyp> kmu, see if that outputs it.
[06:00] <chuckyp> rahmiel, that was it alsamixer
[06:00] <MaKaTiGuY> 1/0 erors on hdb
[06:00] <O2> intel chipset integrated video card, GMA900, with 128MB video ram in the basic system RAM
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> O2, its not good asking us for every commands in linux .. you will go nut doing so .. there is a man command to help you .. man chmod will tell you about chmod and its flags
[06:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, you need build-essentials  package
[06:00] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, also you probably will need kernel-headers for your kernel
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> O2, its not dedicated ? its going to be slow ...you can try
[06:00] <kmu> no, i was already logged in as root. :(
[06:00] <O2> wickedpuppy: sorry! cause I don't know chmod is a command! lol...
[06:01] <loper06> how can set different default root dir for different users in proftpd?
[06:01] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, sudo apt-get install build-essentials linux-image-`uname -r`-headers
[06:01] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: i have 6 partions on my drive
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> O2, its ok ... just relax and take things one by one ..
[06:01] <kmu> chuckyp, no, i was already logged in as root. :(
[06:01] <k0rd> The media was bad :(
[06:01] <k0rd> and no more cd-r's
[06:01] <O2> GMA900, 3dmark2001, 4000 score!
[06:01] <Tokenbad> build-essentials is installed
[06:01] <O2> wickedpuppy: :) thanks!
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> np :P
[06:02] <ChocoCid> i thought you had to do "man -k chmod" ?
[06:02] <SAS_Spidey01> I've just installed ubuntu, using the alt.CD, it detected my hard drive as "sde" instead of sda (I have 1 hdd). - Now on the boot up it can't find the root fs to mount it
[06:02] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, err linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:02] <O2> GMA900 doesn't support vertex shader in hardware.
[06:02] <ChocoCid> ah, i see
[06:02] <Tokenbad> chuckyp, E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.15-27-386-headers
[06:02] <ChocoCid> info chmod would work too, no?
[06:03] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, yeah my bad it was a typo try linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:03] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, after you have those two packages installed you should be able to build the driver.
[06:03] <O2> GMA900 can play WARIII fluently though.  If it can't run xgl, I would cry and cry...
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> O2, start reading the wiki on xgl then ...
[06:03] <Tokenbad> chuckyp,  linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386 is already the newest version.
[06:03] <O2> ok
[06:03] <Tokenbad> =8-(
[06:04] <collin> how do I place sshd in my startup for when I boot up the computer before I login
[06:04] <O2> I am having lunch, see u
[06:04] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, hrm... then when you sudo sh NVIDIA-blah or whatever their directions say?
[06:04] <Tokenbad> I did that...then it said x was running so booted to terminal
[06:04] <esac> collin: /etc/rc6.d ?
[06:05] <Tokenbad> and it then said gcc dev and libc dev was needed
[06:05] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, what error did it give you?
[06:05] <loper06> how can set different default root dir for different users in proftpd?
[06:05] <mnepton> mornin' kids
[06:05] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, well if you have gcc you should be fine hold on let me find something
[06:05] <ChocoCid> chroot them, i think, loper06
[06:05] <ChocoCid> might want to do man chroot
[06:06] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, sudo apt-get reinstall build-essentials     cuz something goofy is going on there.
[06:07] <rahmiel> chuckyp, alsamixer returns 'no mixer elems found'
[06:07] <kmu> chuckyp, thanks for your help, about to flood one more time
[06:07] <chuckyp> Tokenbad, also there is no need to reboot to go to terminal  to get to one hit ctrl+alt+f1   then you can type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop   that will stop X  then if you sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start  will start it back up when you are done.
[06:08] <chuckyp> rahmiel, are you running kubuntu?
[06:08] <chuckyp> kmu, np
[06:08] <rahmiel> chuckup, Regular ubuntu
[06:08] <rahmiel> chuckyp*
[06:09] <chuckyp> rahmiel, hrm.. thats wierd....   alsamixer should work.  But nontheless no idea how to adjust the bass perhaps someone else would know
[06:09] <SAS_Spidey01> let's see if a hand written fstab helps
[06:09] <kmu> so, i have a cd in my cdrom, and i'm playing music from the disk right now. the problem: i open a console and type `mount' and don't see the cdrom listed. why not?
[06:09] <collin> esac: how do i tell rc6.d to start up sshd
[06:09] <ChocoCid> because it's not mounted, would be my guess...
[06:09] <ChocoCid> how... odd
[06:10] <kmu> ChocoCid, doesn't it have to be mounted to be playing?
[06:10] <ChaosFan> collin: runlevel6 doesn't start anything
[06:10] <ChocoCid> i'm not sure it'd have to be mounted into the filesystem to start playing
[06:10] <kmu> hmm
[06:10] <ChaosFan> collin: even if you want it to
[06:10] <ChocoCid> mount puts it in the file system
[06:10] <ChocoCid> i'm trying to think how to mount the cd
[06:10] <ChocoCid> do you know what the drive letter is?
[06:10] <ChocoCid> *name
[06:11] <mnepton> kmu: what does df -h tell you?
[06:11] <collin> ChaosFan: how do i start sshd at boot time?
[06:11] <ciscomonkey> anyone have xshipwars running on ubuntu?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> You normally dont mount an audio cd.  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:17] <fetale> oop
[06:17] <sidny4> haha, you're fired! :D
[06:17] <ChocoCid> MaKaTiGuY: after that, you can install Ubuntu off the CD while running it (so you can get in here with gaim or xchat) off the livedisc)
[06:17] <fetale> the more I know
[06:18] <MaKaTiGuY> ChocoCid: im geting errors while installing ubuntu
[06:18] <kmu> i'm sorry about the flood
[06:18] <ChocoCid> MaKaTiGuY: did you restart your computer with the CD in it and load from the CDROM/
[06:18] <ChocoCid> ?
[06:18] <MaKaTiGuY> yes
[06:18] <collin> ChaosFan: I'm trying to setup a server, but I don't have monitor for it or a keyboard so I'm connecting through ssh, but it seems that I have to login for sshd to work
[06:18] <nalioth> kmu: think "pastebin"  :)
[06:18] <ChocoCid> what was the problem?
[06:18] <MaKaTiGuY> and installs automatically
[06:18] <cwillu> fetale: one sec
[06:18] <MaKaTiGuY> 1/o erors on hdb
[06:18] <ChocoCid> it doesn't install automatically off the CD...
[06:19] <MaKaTiGuY> logical block
[06:19] <kurtles> hey i need help to install linux ubuntu can any1 please help...i downloaded it, burnt it to a disc, changed it soo cd rom was the first in the boot order, restarted comp (with cd in it) and nothing it boots normally can any1 help please
[06:19] <SAS_Spidey01> I guess I'll need to try Arch or Fedora Core, for once I wish I had a gnu/linux system that matched freebsd's HW support on this damn box
[06:19] <ChaosFan> collin: so you do connect a keyboard to it to log in?
[06:19] <fetale> cwillu: thanks
[06:19] <ChocoCid> HW?
[06:19] <indigoblu> SAS_Spidey01, what piece of hardware?
[06:19] <kurtles> hello?
[06:19] <ChaosFan> collin: or is sshd just not working?
[06:19] <ChocoCid> kurtles : check your boot order again in the BIOS
[06:19] <kmu> exit
[06:19] <SAS_Spidey01> A Gateway MX5048 Multimedia Desktop
[06:19] <cwillu> fetale: http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?t=1358 might be relevant
[06:20] <collin> ChaosFan: i borrowed my neighbors keyboard, haha, and logged in so it works now
[06:20] <sidny4> How do I make sure sshd starts at boot-up?
[06:20] <MaKaTiGuY> ChocoCid: i have 6 partitions on my hd
[06:20] <collin> ChaosFan: i'm on a laptop now
[06:20] <sidny4> like do I have to add some command for sshd or will it start automatically?
[06:20] <SAS_Spidey01> No problems using FreeBSD un till I try to  boot two installs of it. GNU/Linux - a problem with every distro I have tried
[06:20] <ChaosFan> collin: logged in via ssh?
[06:20] <bimberi> sidny4: how did you install sshd?
[06:20] <ChocoCid> MaKaTiGuY: that's a lot of partitions...
[06:20] <unfknblvbl> lol
[06:20] <ChaosFan> sidny4: default behaviour is to start automatically if installed
[06:21] <unfknblvbl> how big is your hdd ?
[06:21] <fetale> hmm, I've tried reconfiguring the locales numerous times at this point, for whatever reason it isn't working
[06:21] <sidny4> through synaptic
[06:21] <sidny4> openssh
[06:21] <MaKaTiGuY> ChocoCid: hehehe, what should i do? does it affect the installation
[06:21] <fetale> cwillu: sorry, that was for you
[06:21] <bimberi> sidny4: the openssh-server package sets up an initscript automatically
[06:21] <ChocoCid> shouldn't
[06:21] <ChocoCid> just try again, i'd think
[06:21] <cwillu> fetale: k, let me look a bit longer :p
[06:21] <sidny4> ok, wasn't sure if it would or if I had to add something
[06:22] <collin> ChaosFan: not currently because the server doesn't have internet(the internet at my appartment complex is wireless) i have a wireless router connected to the server for now but I can't connect to the server and the internet at the same time
[06:22] <MaKaTiGuY> ChocoCid: how about the errors while installing
[06:22] <sidny4> !vnc server
[06:22] <ChocoCid> hope they don't happen this time :P
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vnc server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> I need to compile a module for samba. I installed the binary for samba. Do I need to replace the binary version with the sorce version? How does this work?
[06:22] <user__> hey chucky i got azureus
[06:22] <bimberi> fetale (cwillu): try 'sudo apt-get install language-pack-en'
[06:23] <user__> now how do i use it
[06:23] <ChaosFan> collin: you know that your setup sure is strange?
[06:23] <SAS_Spidey01> Every distro I've installed on this box, sits on my desk as a bunch of paper weights :@
[06:23] <fetale> cwillu: haven't tried that yet, I'll see if it works
[06:23] <nandan> hi, i got installed fedor core 5 on my system i have given a swap of 2GB, a boot and '/' . now i neede to install ubuntu can any one tell me about the partition for ubuntu??
[06:23] <collin> ChaosFan: it's strange, but it's all I have. for now I just want it as print server
[06:24] <fetale> hmmm... no updates
[06:24] <fetale> cwillu: didn't quite work
[06:24] <collin> ChaosFan: i don't have a wireless card for the server yet so it has no internet
[06:24] <fetale> cwillu: quite as in not at all
[06:24] <cwillu> lol
[06:24] <ChocoCid> !hardware
[06:24] <ChaosFan> collin: but you said you have it connected?
[06:24] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:24] <cwillu> fetale: reconfig locales after?
[06:25] <collin> ChaosFan: it's connected to a wireless router is all. I use that to connect to it with my laptop
[06:25] <fetale> cwillu: got the same error on the repackage
[06:25] <nandan> can i keep the same swap which i provided for fedora for ubuntu also??
[06:25] <cwillu> k
[06:25] <bimberi> nandan: yes
[06:25] <ChaosFan> collin: and your wireless router doesn't allow wireless clients to connect to other clients connected to it via ethernet?
[06:26] <nandan> bimberi: how abt boot and /??
[06:26] <nandan> after ubuntu installation am not able to acces fedora
[06:26] <wilssgrant> Hey guys, anyone know much about compiling from source? I am having weird issue, posted on the forums, the link is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1598503
[06:26] <bimberi> nandan: no, ubuntu will need its own / partition (which includes /boot by default)
[06:27] <collin> ChaosFan: it does, but I'm connected to an other wireless router that is owned by my apartment complex that provides free internet, so i can't connect to both at once.
[06:27] <bimberi> nandan: yes, you might need to configure grub to include fedora as a boot option
[06:27] <variant> wilssgrant: its a long time since i compiled mplayer but i seem to remember that its --enable-gui
[06:27] <chuckyp> !tell nandan about grub
[06:27] <variant> wilssgrant: so ./configure --enable-gui
[06:27] <variant> wilssgrant: or --enable-gtk... i cant remember exactly
[06:28] <wilssgrant> Really? im following the instructions at http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/#mplayer
[06:28] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, whould be in the readme
[06:28] <sidny4> !vnc
[06:28] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[06:28] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: I followed the readme and ensured I had what it wanted installed
[06:29] <torchie> !freenx
[06:29] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:29] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, its the --enable-x switch
[06:29] <cwillu> fetale: in a terminal, what does echo $LANG $LANGUAGE say?
[06:29] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: The Opera tutorial says that is needed, whats wrong with it?
[06:29] <chuckyp> dunno
[06:30] <fetale> cwillu: en_US.UTF-8 en
[06:30] <cwillu> fetale: one sec (pocket aces :p)
[06:30] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, you know opera 9 is availible in the canical repos right?
[06:30] <ChaosFan> collin: ah, that's the point, you don't have your own internet connection?
[06:30] <MrJones> Hello
[06:30] <cwillu> sweet, busted
[06:31] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: I'm trying to get mplayer's plug in to work with opera, I already have opera installed
[06:31] <MrJones> is anyone familiar with lampp? similar to xampp but for linux? I know it doesnt deal with ubuntu but I wanted to know what might be the default username
[06:31] <collin> ChaosFan: basically, it's provided by the place I live at and it's only wireless
[06:31] <cwillu> fetale: you're launching the perl thingy from the terminal, or know how to?
[06:32] <ChaosFan> collin: i see. and how do you expect getting help if you can't try what you're proposed?
[06:32] <fetale> cwillu: I'm trying to aptitude install automake1.9
[06:32] <collin> ChaosFan: so i'm just going to take notes and then log on to the server and try to fix it. What exactly do I need to do to tell it to start up at boot time?
[06:32] <cwillu> an aptitude is giving the error?
[06:33] <fetale> cwillu: not just aptitude, but that's when I noticed it
[06:33] <ChaosFan> collin: as starting at boottime is the default behaviour for sshd, perhaps you did not install it?
[06:33] <fetale> cwillu: I installed via apt-get
[06:34] <cwillu> fetale, what happens if you put LANGUAGE="" before the command?
[06:34] <ChaosFan> collin: it basically just needs to be installed and needs a corresponding /etc/init.d/-script with a symlink in /etc/rc3.d/ or /etc/rc1.d/
[06:34] <cwillu> LANGUAGE="" aptitude install automake1.9
[06:34] <ChaosFan> arghs
[06:34] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, hrm... not really sure
[06:34] <kurtles> does any1 have a different link to download ubuntu?
[06:34] <ChaosFan> collin: /etc/rc2.d/ instead of rc1.d/
[06:34] <ChaosFan> collin: and that depends on what runlevel you're booting into
[06:34] <collin> ChaosFan: Do I need to do anything special to get it to connect to my wireless router since it has a wep
[06:35] <jasper> is any action required after editing /boot/grub/menu.1st?
[06:35] <Elephant> I just installed the desktop version of Ubuntu, and I wasn't paying attention during the installation process.  I also neglected to set up a user account before rebooting.  Now I can't log in, and my attempts to google the default post-install user have failed.  Can anyone help me out?
[06:35] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: just to test, I tried make, and it gives me errors and gives up
[06:35] <ChaosFan> collin: that has nothing to do with sshd
[06:35] <cwillu> Elephant: log in using the recovery kernel
[06:35] <mike-ekim> I logged in to my box, and its telling me i have new mail
[06:35] <collin> ChaosFan: how do I know what runlevel I'm booting into
[06:35] <mike-ekim> and this came out after I installed Postfix.
[06:35] <fetale> cwillu: the error still comes up
[06:35] <mike-ekim> how can I check this? and what type of mail, is it like regular mail?
[06:35] <jasper> Elephant, or just reinstall it.
[06:35] <cwillu> Elephant: you can set up a username/password from there (should be able to google it)
[06:35] <fetale> what's the paste-bin again?
[06:35] <Elephant> From the login screen?
[06:36] <ChaosFan> collin: and concerning wireless connections, i'm not very experienced, maybe someone else should help you there
[06:36] <cwillu> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <jasper> anything required after editing menu.1st? or is it good to go once saved?
[06:36] <fetale> ha ha
[06:36] <fetale> !pastebin
[06:36] <fetale> !pastebin  LANGUAGE="" aptitude install automake1.9
[06:36] <fetale> Reading package lists... Done
[06:36] <fetale> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:36] <fetale> Reading extended state information
[06:36] <fetale> Initializing package states... Done
[06:36] <fetale> Building tag database... Done
[06:36] <fetale> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin  LANGUAGE="" aptitude install automake1.9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <variant> jasper: menu.lst not menu.1st
[06:36] <fetale> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:36] <fetale> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[06:36] <fetale> Writing extended state information... Done
[06:36] <fetale> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[06:36] <fetale> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[06:36] <fetale>         LANGUAGE = "",
[06:37] <cwillu> fetale: I don't think I quite got the point accross :p
[06:37] <fetale>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[06:37] <fetale>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[06:37] <fetale>     are supported and installed on your system.
[06:37] <AntiSpamBot> Please don't flood #ubuntu, Use pastebin (http://pastebin.ca)
[06:37] <fetale> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[06:37] <fetale> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[06:37] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, here are directions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179694&highlight=file+directory+error%3A+X11%2FIntrinsic.h%3A
[06:37] <cwillu> follow that link, paste it there, and paste the link it gives you on that site _here_
[06:37] <kalm-> Hello!
[06:37] <fetale> cwillu: makes more sense
[06:37] <collin> ChaosFan: I guessed I just assumed that sshd wasn't working because it wasn't showing up on the connected devices of the router, but when i logged in to the server I removed the wep and sshd worked so I assumed I needed to be logged in
[06:38] <collin> ChaosFan: thanks a lot for your help, i really appreciate it
[06:38] <kurtles> wat other operating systems are there?
[06:38] <ChaosFan> collin: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/usage.html <-- if ubuntu sticks with the default (i'm not quite sure) runlevel 3 would be just what you need
[06:38] <kalm-> This is what im getting when i try to run Unreal Tournament 2003
[06:38] <kalm-> fcntl: Operation not permitted
[06:38] <kalm-> fcntl: Operation not permitted
[06:38] <kalm-> Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:38] <kalm-> OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support.
[06:38] <kalm-> History:
[06:38] <kalm-> Exiting due to error
[06:38] <chuckyp> !paste
[06:38] <kurtles> wat other operating systems are there?
[06:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:38] <kalm-> i dont know what to do
[06:39] <chuckyp> kurtles, there are a lot
[06:39] <ChaosFan> kurtles: theres an endless sea of operating systems
[06:39] <variant> kurtles: many such as openbsd, gentoo/linux, haiku.. others
[06:39] <chuckyp> is beos still around?
[06:39] <wilssgrant> chucky: trying instructions, will let you know if they work... thanks in advance
[06:39] <variant> chuckyp: it has become haiku
[06:39] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, np
[06:39] <chuckyp> variant, ahh cool that was pretty cool back in the day.
[06:39] <cwillu> fetale: which ubuntu are you running?
[06:40] <Jbirk> I cannot get compiz installed
[06:40] <fetale> dapper
[06:40] <Jbirk> the package is broken
[06:40] <Jbirk> any ideas
[06:40] <Jbirk> ?
[06:40] <Jbirk> I am running Dapper
[06:40] <variant> Jbirk: /join ubuntu-xgl
[06:40] <collin> I have been using ubuntu for several months now, what is better about kubuntu and kde?
[06:40] <ChaosFan> collin: thats a matter of personal taste
[06:40] <variant> collin: kde is more windows like
[06:40] <das-q> ChaosFan: hah, just wanted to write personal taste
[06:40] <ChaosFan> ;)
[06:41] <variant> collin: personally i dont like it, you might though.. no reason not to try (install with aptitude so you can roll it back if you dont lik eit)
[06:41] <kurtles> wat other operating systems are there?
[06:41] <collin> does one have more support or better programs associated with it
[06:41] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: Negative, had same errors
[06:41] <chuckyp> !tell Jbirk about xgl
[06:41] <kurtles> like with linux
[06:41] <chuckyp> Jbirk, xgl support is in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:41] <variant> kurtles: stop spammin the same question over and over again
[06:41] <cwillu> fetale: still looking...
[06:41] <das-q> collin: personally I very much appreciate konqueror as a filebrowser, as I can control very good through the keyboard (yes, I'm a vim-user)
[06:41] <kalm-> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[06:41] <kalm-> kalm@lynx1:~$ ut2003
[06:41] <kalm-> fcntl: Operation not permitted
[06:41] <kalm-> fcntl: Operation not permitted
[06:41] <kalm-> Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:41] <ChaosFan> collin: no, not really, you can run any program with any window manager/desktop environment
[06:41] <kalm-> OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support.
[06:41] <kalm-> History:
[06:41] <chuckyp> collin, its a matter of preference
[06:41] <kalm-> Exiting due to error
[06:41] <kalm-> i need help with this :( no forums helped and ... well
[06:41] <chuckyp> collin, I switch every once in a wile but always come back to gnome.
[06:41] <fetale> cwillu: I understand, I've been at this for the past hour or so. Thanks!
[06:42] <ChaosFan> collin: i personally don't even _have_ a desktop environment in the strict sense of the word ;)
[06:42] <chuckyp> !tell kalm- about paste
[06:42] <anfangs> will you take a performance hit if you install an OS on the second half of a 100GB drive?
[06:42] <chuckyp> kalm-, what sort of video card do you have?  and whats the scenario is this a fresh install or live cd boot?
[06:42] <ChaosFan> anfangs: no, that doesn't matter
[06:42] <collin> i tried to install kde with synaptic and my login screen was kde, but when I logged in, i was back to gnome?
[06:42] <cwillu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1171422 might seem apropos, although its in reference to edgy installs and installs that had edgy attempted on them
[06:43] <cwillu> might work anyway
[06:43] <anfangs> ChaosFan: thanks
[06:43] <ChaosFan> collin: try installing kubuntu-desktop
[06:43] <cwillu> fetale: ^^^
[06:43] <kalm-> i have an ATi Radeon IGP 345M... i believe
[06:43] <kurtles> can anybody tell me link for linux fedora
[06:43] <chuckyp> anfangs, very little one.  but if its on the outer edge of the drive it would actuallyb e faster.  But with hdd's now adays you wouldn't even be able to notice it.
[06:43] <kalm-> there should be no trouble since  lsmod and lspci BOTH give me some info about this card
[06:43] <ChaosFan> kalm-: http://fedora.redhat.com/
[06:43] <chuckyp> kurtles, /join #fedora
[06:43] <collin> ChaosFan: once I install it, how do i set the default to gnome or kde?
[06:43] <cwillu> fetale: I don't see anything in there that should break anything at least, so it might be worth a shot (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1171422)
[06:43] <anfangs> chuckyp: ok, good enough
[06:43] <wilssgrant> chucky: worked this time for some reason! amazing! much love and thanks <3
[06:44] <kalm-> but it gives me THAT output every time i try to run UT2003
[06:44] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, np
[06:44] <kalm-> ( a game )
[06:44] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: I'm going to post in the thread that you came to the rescue in irc :)
[06:44] <chuckyp> kalm-, what drivers are you using?  did you install any?
[06:44] <ChaosFan> collin: i don't kown if kubuntu-desktop uninstalls gnome, but if not you will be able to chosse on the login screen (gdm calls that menu "session", dunno how kdm calls it)
[06:45] <kalm-> no i didnt install any myself...
[06:45] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, np  just put the link that worked that way more people will see it.
[06:45] <jasper> is any action required after editing /boot/grub/menu.1st?
[06:45] <chuckyp> ChaosFan, no it doens't uninstall gnome and you have the option to keep using gdm if you want.
[06:45] <kalm-> it crashed my X server alltogether when i tried to install these drivers i found from ATI
[06:45] <das-q> collin: look, I just did the following in konqueror to copy data from my server to my host here: pressed ctrl+shift+L for horizontal split view, hit F6 to get into the adress-bar, typed fish://z and chose the machine which was already in the dropdown-list (z is the first letter of the user at that machine, fish is the protocol in konqi to connect to ssh), then I entered the login credentials and dragged and dropped the data which I wanted copied w
[06:45] <das-q> at I wanna do but just copies it)
[06:45] <chuckyp> jasper, save it
[06:45] <chuckyp> kalm-, you should read the wiki on ati
[06:45] <chuckyp> !ati
[06:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <kalm-> where may i find the wiki?
[06:46] <ChaosFan> so now, i'm off for some hours, see you
[06:46] <chuckyp> kalm-, you need the driver for rendering support so your game will work.  follo the link ubotu posted
[06:46] <chuckyp> !tell kalm- about ati
[06:46] <collin> ChaosFan: thanks for your help
[06:47] <collin> das-q: thats pretty neat
[06:47] <chuckyp> collin, it won't uninstall gnome if you didn't catch that.
[06:47] <chuckyp> collin, and while its installing you will have the option to keep gdm or switch to kdm
[06:48] <chuckyp> collin, there are plenty of links about installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu on google.
[06:48] <ChocoCid> !kubuntu
[06:48] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <ChocoCid> ditto...
[06:48] <ChocoCid> !xubuntu
[06:48] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <collin> chuckyp: thanks I'll look into it
[06:48] <ChocoCid> if you want to get rid of them, do "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop"
[06:48] <ChocoCid> i tried all 3, like GNOME the best
[06:49] <ChocoCid> YMMV, i know KDE is popular and xcfe is lightweight
[06:49] <torchie> one thing I don't like about installing xubuntu from ubuntu
[06:49] <torchie> no rat in the wheel logo on startup
[06:49] <torchie> :(
[06:49] <ChocoCid> ha
[06:49] <chuckyp> lol
[06:50] <chuckyp> I used to have the cool arse pic of a rat in a box looking out and it was really cool as a desktop background for xfce.  Just cant' find it anymore.
[06:50] <fetale> cwillu: still going through this...
[06:50] <chuckyp> It was like the rat was coming out of your monitor.
[06:50] <cwillu> fetale: ya, I got the sense that it could take a while
[06:51] <meso> looking for a bit of help. I have a new Toshiba laptop, and want to install Ubuntu completely on an external USB-2 hard drive attached to it, and be able to boot off of that. Can it be done? The installer has given me some fits trying.
[06:51] <cwillu> torchie: one advantage of installing ubuntu from xubuntu... :)
[06:51] <fetale> cwillu: sudo apt-get source -b glib gives me errors... ugh
[06:52] <cwillu> fetale: bah;  it may need build-essential installed first
[06:53] <chuckyp> meso, can you boot off of usb from the laptop?
[06:53] <chuckyp> meso, i.e. can you select usb as a boot optoin on your laptops bios?
[06:54] <torchie> I've always wondered what would happen if you booted off of a usb drive and then took it out; it doesn't prevent you from taking it out like with cd drives
[06:54] <cwillu> torchie: probably about the same as would happen if you used a paperclip in the cd drive :p
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> torchie, i suppose it would be called premature ejaculation ...
[06:55] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: Dang, well it compiled, I copied over the right files into opera's plugin folder, but alas it still does not work (loading a page with embeded video results in a blank grey box where the video should be
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> pardon my pun ...
[06:55] <SkyMountaineer> has any one had experiance with the tecra A8
[06:55] <tolstoy> folks, do linux files have a "creation date", and if so, how do you show them via command line?
[06:55] <tolstoy> I only see "modified" and "accessed" via nautilus (say)
[06:55] <torchie> I don't know what happens if you take out the cd!
[06:55] <cwillu> tolstoy: ls -l shows a bunch of extra info
[06:55] <fetale> cwillu: how would that change things?
[06:55] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, maybe a codec problem
[06:55] <meso> chuckyp - yes, you can select USB as a boot option, and order the boot options in the bios
[06:55] <tolstoy> cwillu: only shows one date, though
[06:55] <hayden> whats a good smtp server package i can use?
[06:56] <chuckyp> meso, should be possible
[06:56] <cwillu> tolstoy: 'man ls' will give a bunch of options you can select (what to display, etc)
[06:56] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: Even though mplayer works fine in firefox?
[06:56] <cwillu> fetale: build-essential?
[06:56] <tolstoy> cwillu: okay.  well, I didn't see anything there, but I'll look a little closer this time.
[06:56] <cwillu> fetale:  the apt-source -b ... command tries to build that package from source
[06:57] <hayden> ?
[06:57] <fetale> cwillu: okay, that makes more sense to me
[06:57] <meso> the last try, it put the root on a partition on the main drive
[06:57] <chuckyp> meso, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[06:57] <fetale> cwillu: because I haven't been able to build
[06:57] <hayden> !smtp
[06:57] <Jewfro> I was trying to install my printer driver, which failed.  I'm getting an error now and cannot install anything.
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <SkyMountaineer> I have a sound card issue with the tecra A8 it shows up with alsa and oss but I still get no sound any ideas
[06:57] <hayden> !mail
[06:57] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <cwillu> tolstoy: ctime is what you're looking for I believe
[06:57] <SkyMountaineer> I have followed the forums and it does nto help
[06:57] <Jewfro> Writing extended state information... Error!
[06:57] <Jewfro> E: I wasn't able to locate file for the mfc420cnlpr package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[06:57] <Jewfro> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[06:57] <MaKaTiGuY> chocoCid: im still getting errors
[06:57] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, I'm not really sure how all that is working. But if it works outside it should work embedded.
[06:57] <Jewfro> that's the error
[06:57] <meso> chuckyp - I'll take a look at that, tks
[06:58] <tolstoy> cwillu: ah, gotcha.  I see a --time option in there.
[06:58] <MaKaTiGuY> chocoCid: buffer 1/0 error on device hdb, logical block
[06:58] <ChocoCid> Can't really help you there, sorry...
[06:58] <MaKaTiGuY> chocoCid: vfs: brelse trying to free free buffer
[06:59] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, thats during your install i'm back now.
[06:59] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp
[06:59] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: yes
[06:59] <fetale> cwillu: build-essential is at it's newest...
[06:59] <fetale> I'll post a forum topic, maybe somebody tomorrow can pick it up
[06:59] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, you should probably check the disk for errors.  If it doesn't find any try burning the iso at a slower speed.
[07:00] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: squashfs: error: unbale to read page, blocked 7a0d3888, size 844b
[07:00] <cwillu> fetale: paste the errors into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:00] <wilssgrant> chuckyp: would it be a codec problem even though mplayer works fine in firefox?
[07:00] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, yeah I would try burning the iso at a slower rate
[07:00] <MaKaTiGuY> ok...
[07:00] <SkyMountaineer> can any one help out with a sound card issue
[07:00] <MaKaTiGuY> i'll try that one, brb, tnx
[07:01] <chuckyp> wilssgrant, no  if it works in mplayer or with firefox it should work.  Thats odd I would maybe look for a support forum for the mplayerplug-in .
[07:01] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, i burn all mine at like 4x
[07:01] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, just to be safe i've noticed some iso's especially os's get borked by burning at full speed
[07:01] <fetale> cwillu: is there any log in particular that you're looking for? or just the terminal output?
[07:01] <chuckyp> !tell SkyMountaineer about ask
[07:02] <cwillu> just the terminal
[07:02] <cwillu> from the apt-build command
[07:03] <cwillu> sweet, three cups of coffee in one hour.
[07:03] <cwillu> at this rate, I'll be dead by morning :)
[07:03] <chuckyp> cwillu, I know the feeling.
[07:03] <jojoman02> anyone know if mpeg2 decoding is done by graphics card or mobo?
[07:03] <chuckyp> I have to stay up to switch to night shift tomorrow so I'd figure i'd waste time on here.
[07:04] <chuckyp> jojoman02, depends if you have a mpeg2 decoder that is hardware or software based.
[07:04] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: im using a WRCD
[07:04] <chuckyp> jojoman02, most current video cards do this on a hardware level.
[07:04] <ChaosFan> .oO( and on the hardware )
[07:04] <MaKaTiGuY> 12X
[07:04] <jojoman02> chuckyp: how will i know, will it say on the card? does the nvidia/ati usually have mpeg2 decoding in their cards, what is the safest bet?\
[07:04] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: 12X CD-WR
[07:05] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, yeah like I say I know if i burn it at 52x or so it freaks I usually have to crank it down to like 4x for it to be sucessfull.
[07:05] <chuckyp> jojoman02, most your current cards handle decoding on a hardware level.   But old school stuff you have to have a software decoder.
[07:05] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: is it ok to ReWritable CDs
[07:05] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: is it ok to use ReWritable CDs
[07:05] <chuckyp> jojoman02, they also make hardware encoders like the haugpauge tv cards etc...
[07:05] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, yeah shouldn't matter
[07:06] <fetale> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26137/
[07:06] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, saves you some coasters atleast
[07:06] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: do u think 12X is fast?
[07:06] <cwillu> fetale: one sec, full house
[07:07] <fetale> cwillu: I didn't read the second line you posted, I'll send you the apt-build error
[07:07] <chuckyp> fetale, did you upgrade to edgy?
[07:07] <cwillu> fetale: k
[07:07] <fetale> chuckyp: no
[07:07] <chuckyp> fetale, you need to reconfigure locale
[07:07] <chuckyp> for one
[07:07] <fetale> should I just apt-get remove and then install again?
[07:08] <fetale> or is there a config file I should edit somewhere?
[07:08] <chuckyp> fetale, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale
[07:08] <chuckyp> errr locales
[07:08] <fetale> done that, it's a dead end
[07:08] <cwillu> chuckyp: I do believe fetale's been there and done that :)
[07:08] <chuckyp> cwillu, ahh I had that problem when I dist-upgraded to edgy I noticed hadn't been paying attention to his previous problems though
[07:09] <SkyMountaineer> can I ask for some help in configering my sound card ?
[07:09] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: sure.
[07:09] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, I dunno give it a try but like I say I usually do 4x walk a way have a smoke or whatever and come back and try it.
[07:09] <cwillu> chuckyp: I know, I'm still suspicious edy's got some influence in this somehow
[07:09] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, this is assuming your cdrom is /dev/hdb   primary slave drive on your pc
[07:09] <SkyMountaineer> ubuntu see it as an alsa and oss but i can not get sound from it
[07:10] <fetale> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26138/
[07:10] <SkyMountaineer> i have followed the fourms and still no joy
[07:10] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: what's the output from ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''?
[07:10] <Jbirk> I have had a great night thanks to all of you guys and girls
[07:10] <Jbirk> I got XGL and Compiz working
[07:11] <Jbirk> and 3D Acceleration, Printing, Internet
[07:11] <SkyMountaineer> 0: Realtek ALC262
[07:11] <Jbirk> Playing DVDs and everything else
[07:11] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: i think my cdrom rive is secondary slave
[07:11] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, /hdd
[07:11] <fetale> cwillu: it's possible, maybe edgy has worked it's way in, in which case should I just get the whole package?
[07:11] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, well give her a try and see what happens with the slower speed burn.
[07:11] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: ``cat /proc/version_signature''
[07:12] <mnepton> take your time. take your fortune. the pilgrimage has gained momentum!
[07:12] <cwillu> fetale: dunno, shouldn't happen though unless you've been installing new repositories, or debs outside of the standard repo's (not that that's bad, merely useful to know if you have)
[07:12] <fetale> I have for compiz...
[07:12] <SkyMountaineer> cat: /proc/version_signature: No such file or directory
[07:13] <cwillu> fetale: pastebin me the output of 'LANGUAGE="en_US:en" locale'
[07:13] <fetale> I'll pastebin my sources.list
[07:13] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[07:13] <hpklett> does anyone know how I can upgrade libfreetype6 without uninstalling half my desktop?  there's no libfreetype6-dev package matching
[07:13] <fetale> and that too
[07:13] <cwillu> fetale: that too, thanks :)
[07:13] <mnepton> SkyMountaineer: drop the _signature
[07:13] <fetale> :)
[07:13] <cwillu> fetale: quite possible that several of the standard compiz packages are including some edgy stuff now
[07:14] <chuckyp> SkyMountaineer, what type of soundcard?
[07:14] <cwillu> I know I had a video card driver problem due to such a conflict
[07:14] <SkyMountaineer> Linux version 2.6.15-26-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006
[07:14] <fetale> ooof...
[07:14] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: please update to -27.49
[07:14] <cwillu> display would lock up seemly randomly, with xorg using 100% cpu (could check from a different machine), but couldn't kill it
[07:14] <mnepton> SkyMountaineer: there's been a kernel update
[07:14] <SkyMountaineer> well thats the thing it tells me hda intel or reltek
[07:14] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: yep, got that much already.
[07:14] <fetale> cwillu: I've had to do some weird stuff for my video card (damn ATI 200m on an AMD64!)
[07:14] <cwillu> lol, been there, done that
[07:14] <mnepton> SkyMountaineer: what kind of CPU do you have?
[07:15] <crimsun> you need to be running the updated kernel before we continue, however.
[07:15] <cwillu> running the 32bit kernel to avoid issues just like that :)
[07:15] <SkyMountaineer> centrino duo
[07:15] <mnepton> SkyMountaineer: you might want to instal linux-image-686 and the linus-restricted-modules for 686 and try running a 686 kernel
[07:15] <chuckyp> SkyMountaineer, thats yoru processor what type of soundcard is int he box or what type of computer is it.
[07:15] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: /hdd <--- what do you min
[07:16] <SkyMountaineer> toshiba tecra A8 laptop
[07:16] <mnepton> SkyMountaineer: "lspci" will give chuckyp the info he's aksing for
[07:16] <fetale> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26139/
[07:16] <mnepton> jebus. i just *actually spelled* it "aksing"
[07:16] <meso> chuckyp.... I got a "Failed to create a file system" pop-up during the install...
[07:16] <chuckyp> MaKaTiGuY, well devices in linux follow a certain naming convention i.e. hda= primary master hdb=primary slave hdc=secondary master etc....  then partitions go liek hda1  first partiton on primary master.
[07:16] <meso> Here is what I did...
[07:17] <meso> deleted all partitions on the external USB drive and the linux partitions on the internal drive
[07:17] <SkyMountaineer> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[07:17] <meso> booted the ubunto disk - it came up as a hot disk
[07:17] <MaKaTiGuY> chuckyp: ok.thanks
[07:18] <meso> followed the instructions on your link (except I only have the hot disk - the other install I have doesn't recognize the ethernet)
[07:18] <meso> and the result was the failure to create file system
[07:18] <chuckyp> SkyMountaineer, try lscpi | grep audio
[07:18] <meso> ideas?
[07:19] <cwillu> :/
[07:19] <chuckyp> meso, not really experienced enough myself with the usb booting....   maybe google might yield some more answers I know I saw some stuff like using syslinux
[07:19] <FunnyLookinHat> !easysource
[07:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:19] <aegeanbot> Wish I knew.
[07:19] <meso> yeah... I haven't done much Linux sysadmining
[07:19] <meso> was hoping this would be easy
[07:20] <cwillu> fetale: one sec
[07:20] <crimsun> chuckyp: please install and reboot into the newest kernel. It will make it a bit easier for me to assist you.
[07:20] <crimsun> chuckyp: sorry
[07:20] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: ^^
[07:20] <meso> the instructions say to not use  live CD, but the install CD. I'm not sure how to tell the diff
[07:20] <fetale> cwillu: np, it's awesome that you're doing anything at all!
[07:20] <SkyMountaineer>  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
[07:21] <mnepton> meso: you want the -alternate CD to create bootable flasm memory installations
[07:21] <cwillu> fetale: cd to /usr/lib/locales/, and pastebin the output of 'find'
[07:21] <mnepton> *flash
[07:21] <meso> mnepton - I'm going for USB hard drive, but that probably takes the same thing. How do I get that CD in particular?
[07:22] <SkyMountaineer> crimsun:  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
[07:22] <meso> flash would be cool too, if I could fit it (including VMWARE and XP) into 2 GB
[07:22] <sidny4> !mp3
[07:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <aegeanbot> No idea.
[07:23] <mnepton> meso: it's available at all the download mirros
[07:23] <mnepton> +r
[07:23] <nocti> how do i play flac files on bmp?
[07:23] <mnepton> sidny4: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[07:23] <meso> I'll take a look. Is there some key to its name?
[07:23] <fetale> cwillu: ls: /usr/lib/locales/: No such file or directory!!!!
[07:23] <mnepton> meso: -alternate
[07:23] <cwillu> hmm
[07:23] <fetale> cwillu: /usr/lib/locale/ works though...
[07:24] <cwillu> fetale: what abiyt /usr/share/locale/ ?
[07:24] <sidny4> haha, thanks mnepton
[07:24] <crimsun> SkyMountaineer: I know that; I need you to install and reboot into the newer kernel.
[07:24] <cwillu> oops, that might have been what I wanted
[07:24] <poningru> !sudo
[07:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:24] <cwillu> nope, I've got /var/lib/locales
[07:24] <aegeanbot> I don't have a clue!
[07:24] <SkyMountaineer> ok i am doing that now :0
[07:24] <cwillu> and no /var/lib/locale/
[07:24] <SkyMountaineer> :)
[07:24] <meso> tks - I found it... I hope it has one of my network card drivers on it
[07:24] <hpklett> would anyone mind helping me resolve some really icky dependency stuff?
[07:25] <cwillu> fetale: on my system, I've got exactly one folder in /usr/lib/locales/, called supported.d, and inside that, a couple files, without much in them
[07:25] <chuckyp> fetale, what happens when you try dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[07:25] <fetale> I think I did too at one poing
[07:26] <fetale> *point
[07:26] <cwillu> fetale: the 'no such directory' error you get makes me suspicious
[07:26] <mnepton> one poing only, Vassily.
[07:26] <fetale> I think I get a locale error...
[07:26] <chuckyp> hpklett, ask
[07:26] <MrJones> Hello
[07:26] <chuckyp> fetale, what about sudo apt-get reinstall locales
[07:26] <mnepton> MrJones: want to tell each other fairy tales?
[07:26] <meso>   mnepton - turns out I already have that CD, and it's the one that didn't find my network cards
[07:27] <cwillu> fetale: do you have a /usr/share/locale/ directory with a ton of stuff in it?
[07:27] <meso> but I'll try it again right now and see what happens
[07:27] <chuckyp> mnepton, lmao
[07:27] <fetale> cwillu: locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory - that makes me suspicious
[07:27] <MrJones> I have a tv i use as my monitor for my computer that runs ubuntu how can I fix that every time i open a program the bottom gets cut off
[07:27] <hpklett> well, libfreetype6-dev depends on a later version of libfreetype6, but I can't upgrade it without removing about 50 packages
[07:27] <fetale> cwillu: not a ton, but enough
[07:27] <cwillu> fetale: try the reinstall line he gave above
[07:27] <mnepton> meso: does the desktop CD find those cards?
[07:27] <chuckyp> MrJones, what is your resolution set at?
[07:27] <chuckyp> MrJones, and what type of tv?
[07:27] <cwillu> fetale: otherwise, we'll try to make up the folder that your missing by hand :)  only 2 files, about 10 lines total
[07:27] <fetale> chuckyp, cwillu: I'll give it a shot, thanks
[07:28] <MrJones> 640x480
[07:28] <MrJones> I tried to change it but its no drop down menu
[07:28] <harvix> hello
[07:28] <crimsun> fetale: please pass a whitespace-delimited list of first-column strings from /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED to locale-gen
[07:28] <meso> the desktop CD finds the ethernet card but not the wifi, but that's okay for onw
[07:28] <meso> The alternate CD just now said "No ethernet card was detected"
[07:28] <meso> so I guess my memory was right :-(
[07:28] <chuckyp> meso, hrm... what type of wifi card?
[07:29] <meso> Intel 8945ABG
[07:29] <mnepton> MrJones strikes up a conversation with a black-haired flamenco dancer
[07:29] <meso> the ethernet is RTL8139/810x
[07:29] <mnepton> meso: you using WPA?
[07:29] <chuckyp> MrJones, what type of video card
[07:29] <fetale> it says I have it already if I try to install it...
[07:29] <fetale> cwillu:^^^
[07:29] <meso> I have to wifi LAN segments here - one with WPA, one wide open - until I get things going right
[07:29] <MrJones> Umm intel accelerated
[07:29] <MrJones> I thought it might be my monitor
[07:29] <cwillu> fetale: there's a reinstall option I believe
[07:29] <MrJones> since its a tv
[07:29] <cwillu> one sec
[07:30] <meso> to <== two
[07:30] <mnepton> meso: WPA does not work in Ubuntu until after install. you won;t get a WPA connection during the install process. just let it do its dance, then, when you're installed, use the 10(0)BT to install network-manager-gnome
[07:30] <chuckyp> MrJones, no its a resolution problem I know the nvidia cards let you do a overscan command in the xorg.conf which can be a negative value to allow you to get the image on screen.   You might want to search if intel has an overscan option that can be specified in xorg.conf
[07:31] <meso> mnepton, it is not even detecting the cards - at all - either one - 10BT or WiFi
[07:31] <meso> it is not a matter of finding a WiFi network - it is a matter of the hardware itself
[07:31] <harvix> exist #ubuntu in spanish ?
[07:31] <mnepton> meso: ignore that for the installation.
[07:31] <mnepton> !es > harvix
[07:31] <aegeanbot> Bugger all, I dunno, mnepton.
[07:31] <MrJones> So where would this xorg.conf file be found at?
[07:31] <meso> So I don't need any network connectivity for now?
[07:31] <mnepton> ugh
[07:31] <fetale> crimsun: how do I do that?
[07:31] <mnepton> who brought a bot in here?
[07:32] <crimsun> fetale: you need to choose which locales you want first.
[07:32] <fetale> cwillu: the reinstall command didn't work
[07:32] <fetale> ahh
[07:32] <fetale> I'll try it again..
[07:32] <mnepton> !ops
[07:32] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:32] <aegeanbot> Wish I knew!
[07:32] <ajmitch> hm
[07:32] <fetale> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[07:32] <ajmitch> that doesn't look like anyone's bot that I know of..
[07:32] <meso> Should I continue the install with no network at all?
[07:32] <ScurveyFrog> hello, I'm trying to use a core dump in GDB, but it just tells me that the core file is not a core dump and the file format is not recognized
[07:33] <ScurveyFrog> what am I doing wrong?
[07:33] <cwillu> fetale: synaptic or aptitude has the operation I believe
[07:33] <mnepton> meso: yeah, don;t sweat it. when the machine gets into a normal boot it should be OK
[07:33] <fetale> I'll try aptitude...
[07:33] <ajmitch> hi mnepton :)
[07:33] <mnepton> thanks, meng.
[07:33] <ScurveyFrog> I'm using the command: gdb BST core
[07:33] <ScurveyFrog> where BST is the name of the file that's causing the core dump
[07:33] <fetale> cwillu: allright, that reinstalled it...