[12:32] <timma> I am having a PXE-E32 error.
[12:33] <timma> TFTP timeout
[12:57] <timma> what is the difference between vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-ltsp-1 and -2?
[01:10] <[joseluis] > hi sombody fron san luis potosi?
[05:14] <joebob777as7> where do i specify for dhcp to use eth1?
[05:14] <joebob777as7> hey i just set up my ltsp server and i have two nic's in the system. one is static at <IP_ADDRESS> and i am trying to run my thinclients on <IP_ADDRESS> ip's i have the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf setup fine it always tries to use eth0 to do dhcp on instead of eth1... any help please?
[05:14] <joebob777as7> cliebow? you here?
[05:15] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:15] <joebob777as7> sbalneav you a human?
[05:15] <joebob777as7> sweet
[05:15] <joebob777as7> hey
[05:15] <sbalneav> No, sorry, I'm not human.
[05:15] <joebob777as7> do you know how i specify dhcp to use eth1? i am trying to set up dhcp...
[05:16] <joebob777as7> ahhhh crap! screwed again! lol
[05:16] <sbalneav> sure.
[05:16] <joebob777as7> i just set up my ltsp server and i have two nic's in the system. one is static at <IP_ADDRESS> and i am trying to run my thinclients on <IP_ADDRESS> ip's i have the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf setup fine it always tries to use eth0 to do dhcp on instead of eth1...
[05:16] <sbalneav> /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[05:16] <sbalneav> change INTERFACES="" to INTERFACES="eth1"
[05:17] <sbalneav> Then restart dhcp3-server
[05:17] <joebob777as7> mwuhahahahhahahahahha
[05:17] <joebob777as7> awesome! i know it was something like that.
[05:21] <joebob777as7> it worked perfect! thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@$!@$%@!!@
[05:22] <sbalneav> NP
[05:32] <joebob777as7> ok sbalneav another question. I am trying to boot a intel core 2 duo on this? is it possible? or is it only amd4 and i386?
[05:33] <sbalneav> Well, an intel core duo should be able to use i386
[05:33] <joebob777as7> oh ok cool
[05:34] <joebob777as7> one more question in the dpcpd.conf file is there a way to make it boot to amd64 if it isn't a i386?
[05:34] <joebob777as7> with an else option or something?
[05:37] <sbalneav> You'd have to have to map by mac address, and provide a special kernel for the amd64, but i368 will work on amd64 too.  It'll just run the client in 32 bit mode.
[05:37] <sbalneav> You're really not going to gain much performance gains by running the client in 64 bit mode.
[05:38] <joebob777as7> no i know that but i have a couple amd64 laptops in our office that won't boot i386 i wanted it to be able to boot it.
[07:12] <joebob777as7> i want to create a couple of users that are limited to their own home folder and can not view the other user's information or home folders... how do i do this?
[07:14] <Burgundavia> joebob777as7: you need to set the permissions on the /home directory to only allow the owners to view it
[07:14] <joebob777as7> is there a way i can do that by default for all new users or do i have to run a command for every user folder?
[07:15] <Burgundavia> joebob777as7: hmm, google it
[07:15] <Burgundavia> I think you need change /etc/skel, but I am not certain
[07:17] <joebob777as7> Burgundavia, do you know what command i would run to make it so only owners can view it?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> to change the existing home dir?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> a recursive chmod
[07:19] <Burgundavia> which is highly dangerous and should be tested first on a test dir
[07:19] <joebob777as7> why is it dangerous? think it would kill the user account?
[07:20] <Burgundavia> no, it might render your home dirs unreadable
[07:20] <joebob777as7> oh ok... i'll look it up
[07:20] <joebob777as7> is there a way that when a user logs out their home folder and all that is in it copies to another directory?
[07:21] <Burgundavia> you want to remove their home dir?
[07:21] <joebob777as7> no copy their entire home dir to another folder as a backup every log off
[07:26] <joebob777as7> ?
[07:28] <Burgundavia> ah
[07:28] <Burgundavia> it would probably be better to run one script in the middle of the night
[07:28] <Burgundavia> to backup all homedirs
[07:29] <Burgundavia> because if a user downloads something large, it could cause so much io that it woudl slow down the computer
[07:29] <Burgundavia> and then use rsync at midnight each night
[07:33] <joebob777as7> ok thx
[07:36] <Burgundavia> how many users on the computer?
[07:36] <joebob777as7> 7
[07:39] <Burgundavia> hmm
[07:39] <Burgundavia> why are you concerned about people reading other people's stuff?
[07:40] <joebob777as7> because it is a legal issue with real estate.
[07:40] <joebob777as7> confidential client data
[07:41] <Burgundavia> ahh, ok
[07:41] <Burgundavia> you could also encrypt the home dirs, but might be overkill in this instance
[07:41] <Burgundavia> where it to be a medical situation, I would recommend encryption
[07:43] <joebob777as7> yeah i can't find a solution anywhere. it should be simple as i think in a lot of environments this could be an issue...
[07:43] <joebob777as7> same computer?
[07:43] <joebob777as7> oops wrong chan
[07:43] <joebob777as7> lol
[09:55] <RichEd> morning all
[09:55] <RichEd> ping highvoltage
[10:02] <juliux> mornin RichEd
[10:02] <RichEd> hi juliux
[10:02] <juliux> RichEd, is ogra still on the sprint?
[10:03] <RichEd> ogra said he will try to get to your conference, and daniel has beein chatting to him about it as well
[10:03] <juliux> cool
[10:03] <RichEd> juliux: he should have got home yesterday ... so should be back in action today some time after travel recovery
[10:04] <juliux> RichEd, thxs, i want to talk with him about an education track
[11:25] <cbx33> ping RichEd
[11:25] <cbx33> Urgent
[11:25] <RichEd> hey cbx33 ... long time no see !
[11:25] <juliux> hey cbx33
[11:25] <cbx33> hey hey
[11:25] <cbx33> got a sec?
[11:26] <RichEd> cbx33: sure
[11:26] <cbx33> pm
[03:03] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:22] <juliux> morning sbalneav
[03:22] <sbalneav> Morning juliux
[03:26] <RichEd> afternoon scotty :)\
[03:26] <sbalneav> Hey RichEd
[03:27] <sbalneav> Killed a couple of crashbugs on the weekend! \o/
[03:27] <RichEd> yay !
[04:58] <lmveloso_> Hi RichEd
[04:58] <lmveloso_> thanks for your reply
[04:59] <RichEd> hi lmveloso_ ... sorry no sign of ogra yet ... as I said I think he is on a leave day following travel and work over the weekend in London
[04:59] <RichEd> when is your deadline ? tomorrow ? and it is US time ?
[04:59] <lmveloso_> Ok, lets try workaround it
[04:59] <lmveloso_> this is the problem
[04:59] <lmveloso_> the deadline is Today 19UTC
[04:59] <lmveloso_> so we have 4h
[05:00] <RichEd> today ... okay ...
[05:00] <lmveloso_> Rodrigo Pereira told me he could fill in the survey..
[05:00] <RichEd> what is the format of the response ... is there any other way I can see if I can assist you and Rodrigo ?
[05:01] <lmveloso_> it is a web form available only to the mentor or to the admin guy..
[05:01] <lmveloso_> in this case Matthias Klose
[05:01] <lmveloso_> and it is at code.google.com/soc
[05:01] <RichEd> can we reassign this so that it is available to Rodrigo ?
[05:02] <lmveloso_> Sure, but just Matthias can do it AFAIK
[05:02] <lmveloso_> by the way I think it is the best solution
[05:03] <lmveloso_> after that Matthias can reassign it back to Oliver
[05:03] <lmveloso_> after the midterm survey
[05:06] <RichEd> So if Rodrigo is willing to fill in the survey, but only Matthias can access it, how do we reassign to get access ?
[05:06] <RichEd> Have you been able to get hold of Mattias ?
[05:06] <lmveloso_> no reply from Matthias
[05:07] <RichEd> lmveloso_: I can see doko in #canonical) do you want me to ping him and join us for a chat ?
[05:07] <lmveloso_> Sure, please.. I'm behind a proxy accessing from a webclient..
[05:07] <lmveloso_> but let's try
[05:08] <RichEd> okay ... I have pinged him ... give me 10 mins and I will let you know if he responds ... note that he was also on sprint with oliver so we may have the same problem
[05:08] <lmveloso_> Ok! Thanks for your help!
[05:09] <RichEd> Note that if we *are unable* to meet the deadline tonight, then we will need to send a mail on your behalf, explaining that there was a mentor problem and *not* a student problem
[05:09] <RichEd> And apply for a late submission.
[05:09] <RichEd> This is clearly not your fault ... just bad timing for events.
[05:10] <lmveloso_> Yes, I think Google will understand the situation
[05:11] <lmveloso_> By the way, we students can fill in our survey until July/30.
[05:14] <RichEd> Okay, so the bit we need for today is the mentor submission I presume ?
[05:14] <RichEd> So it is clear that the mentor is late :)
[05:17] <lmveloso_> Yes, but I'm positive we will handle it.
[05:17] <lmveloso_> I'm having lunch now and I'll be back as soon as I can.
[05:18] <RichEd> okay ... i have an interview at the top of the hour ... so may be busy for a bit
[05:50] <Petaris> Hello
[05:52] <Shadow31> I'm trying to install Edubuntu 7.04 on a server, but I keep getting a MD5Sum Mismatch on ./pool/main/t/ttf-kochi/ttf-kochi-gothic_1.0.20030809-4ubuntu2_all.deb. I've tried downloading and burning the file several times through several mirror, but I still get the same error. Ideas, anyone?
[05:52] <sbalneav> Have you downloaded the iso?
[05:53] <Shadow31> Hmmm. I'm not sure, actually. My manager has been downloading it. I just get the cd.
[05:53] <sbalneav> Might want to check the md5 sum on the iso.
[05:54] <Shadow31> All right. How would I go about doing that?
[05:56] <sbalneav> Well, on the edubuntu download site there's an md5 sum listed for the iso
[05:56] <Shadow31> OK, thanks!
[05:56] <sbalneav> run md5sum on the .iso file you downloaded
[06:38] <lmveloso_> Hi RichEd.. I'm back
[06:39] <lmveloso_> It's raining heavily here
[06:39] <lmveloso_> Any update ?
[06:48] <Petaris> Does anyone know if the network authentication system is in 7.0.4
[06:48] <Petaris> and if it works
[06:55] <RichEd> lmveloso_: in my interview right now ...
[06:57] <lmveloso_> RichEd: My computer reseted and I missed the msg since I gone away
[06:57] <lmveloso_> Ok..
[07:01] <RichEd> lmveloso_: no response from doko
[07:01] <lmveloso_> I received a mail from Google. Leslie Hawthorn said : "I will ping the Ubuntu team and find out what is going on and get back in touch with you.  It may take a day or two, but we *will* get this sorted out"
[07:02] <RichEd> ahhh ... respond to leslie and tell her RichEd is working with you to resolve the issue, and with some grace from her w.r.t. time deadlines we will get it done
[07:03] <RichEd> leslie is a good mate of ours and supporter ... she knows us and me well
[07:03] <lmveloso_> Yes,.. I'm already resdonding to her
[07:03] <RichEd> i also remembered that ogra had a bad tooth, and he may be at the dentist for surgery today
[07:03] <RichEd> mention me by name, and send my regards
[07:03] <lmveloso_> already did :)
[07:03] <RichEd> i'll ping doko again later before I go to bed, and again in the morning
[07:05] <lmveloso_> If doko can't be found I believe we can ask to Oliver to talk to Rodrigo and fill in the survey together
[07:06] <lmveloso_> RichEd: Thanks for your help!
[07:24] <joebob777as7> hey i'm wondering how i can make it that users can not see other user's files by default when i create a new user? can someone help?
[07:38] <Petaris> Does anyone know if the network authentication system is in 7.0.4 and if it is working?
[07:40] <joebob777as7> hey i'm wondering how i can make it that users can not see other user's files by default when i create a new user? can someone help?
[07:43] <stgraber> Petaris: no, network auth isn't in 7.04 (you can still configure one by hand, you can find some help on the wiki)
[07:44] <stgraber> joebob777as7: how do you create them ? using the GUI or with adduser ?
[07:44] <joebob777as7> gui
[07:44] <joebob777as7> stgraber, gui
[07:47] <stgraber> ok, I just tried 2-3 things but none made me able to have different permissions set by default for new accounts
[07:48] <stgraber> so you'll have to chmod them by hand :(
[07:48] <stgraber> sudo chmod g-rwx,o-rwx /home/*
[07:48] <stgraber> will remove all rights for both group and other on all /home/ sub-directories
[07:48] <stgraber> sudo chmod g-rwx,o-rwx -R /home/*
[07:49] <stgraber> if you want to also change permissions for files inside the user directories
[07:49] <joebob777as7> ok is there a way i can make this run by default when i create an account? i have to create 300...
[07:50] <stgraber> make a script to create your accounts+set permissions
[07:50] <stgraber> have to go, be back in 30 minutes or so
[07:50] <joebob777as7> ok
[08:10] <Petaris> stgraber: Ok, I will look at the wiki again
[08:23] <Petaris> hrm
[08:23] <Petaris> it appears authtool doesn't work yet
[10:11] <stephen_> hiya


[16:09] <jamespage> smb, other
[16:09] <smb> jamespage, other?
[16:09] <jamespage> hey folks - postponing Server Team meeting until this week
[16:09] <jamespage> smb, any others ?
[16:09] <jamespage> smb, sorry - I know we said we would try todo it
[16:09] <smb> dunno, have not seen anyone talking
[16:09] <smb> Ah ok :)
[16:09] <jamespage> but majority of folks tied up this morning
[16:10] <smb> No worries
[16:10] <smb> I know most of you are probably in oakland soonish
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[14:55] <asac> Ubulette: i think xul is uploaded
[14:56] <asac> went pretty fast ... which is why i just think ;)
[14:57] <asac> Ubulette: let me know if you haven't received a confirmation mail in a few minutes
[14:57] <Ubulette> nothing so far
[14:58] <Ubulette> our gdk/glib is ugly
[14:58] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1982/
[15:12] <asac_> 16:09 < asac> yeah
[15:12] <asac_> 16:10 < asac> ok upload failed
[15:12] <asac_> 16:10 < asac> lets try again
[15:13] <asac_> damn ... now i got disconnected :)
[15:14] <Ubulette> hmm, I still have 21 upgrades pending in hardy, some 2+ weeks old
[15:23] <asac_> Ubulette: xulrunner accepted
[15:25] <bluekuja> asac: is normal that the package didnt enter NEW queue already?
[15:29] <Ubulette> asac, got no email
[15:30] <asac> Ubulette: its ok ... i received it
[15:30] <asac> apparently the signer gets the mail in ubuntu ... which isn't the case in debian
[15:30] <asac> which is why i always get it wrong
[15:31] <bluekuja> asac: usually it was something automatic
[15:31] <Ubulette> so it was not a sponsored upload ?
[15:31] <bluekuja> asac: but I still cannot see anything
[15:31] <asac> Ubulette: read what i said :)
[15:31] <bluekuja> Ubulette, it is
[15:31] <bluekuja> Ubulette, just the package signer gets the mail back
[15:31] <bluekuja> not the changelog author
[15:32] <asac> Ubulette: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~b1~rc3+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[15:32] <bluekuja> asac: any idea?
[15:33] <asac> bluekuja: no idea ... maybe the sync host is down
[15:33] <asac> i know that debian has some issue with some hosts
[15:33] <asac> atm
[15:33] <asac> but no idea how it works
[15:33] <asac> you should receive a mail though
[15:33] <bluekuja> asac: yes, I received it
[15:33] <bluekuja> asac: but it doesnt appear on NEW
[15:34] <bluekuja> usually when you receive the mail, you see the package in NEW
[15:34] <asac> bluekuja: are you subscribed to debian-devel-announce?
[15:34] <asac> you should
[15:34] <asac> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg00001.html
[15:34] <asac> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg00002.html
[15:35] <bluekuja> asac: that's old
[15:35] <bluekuja> and has been fixed
[15:35] <asac> yes ... but it takes time to resume
[15:36] <asac> read second one
[15:36] <bluekuja> true
[15:37] <bluekuja> but we uploaded it after ries went up to normality
[15:37] <bluekuja> so should be faster
[15:37] <bluekuja> but as you said it might be a mirror sync problem
[15:38] <bluekuja> (I'm subscribed to that list it seems)
[15:38] <bluekuja> :)
[15:38] <bluekuja> and yes, I received that mail as well
[15:38] <bluekuja> thought it was a bit faster
[15:43] <bluekuja> asac: so we have to wait a bit more or it will need a re-upload?
[15:43] <bluekuja> having received the mail should be just a delay
[15:43] <bluekuja> on having it mirrored
[15:47] <asac> bluekuja: well ... i read from the mail the it needs to update db and al ... maybe that takes a few days
[15:57] <Ubulette> http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/f/firefox/
[15:58] <Ubulette> useful site :)
[15:58] <bluekuja> asac: don't know. I'll have to ask about it
[16:02] <bluekuja> asac: gambas2 got uploaded to NEW 28 minutes ago
[16:02] <bluekuja> and it appeared now
[16:02] <bluekuja> so our delay seems to be a problem
[16:02] <bluekuja> 2 hours
[16:08] <asac> meeting atm ... 30 min i hope
[16:08] <bluekuja> ok :)
[16:30] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 381206
[16:30] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 381206 in OS Integration "Tango Style theme for better Linux UI integration" [Enhancement,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381206
[16:37] <Ubulette> bug 157126
[16:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 157126 in mozilla-firefox "FF2 without default mozilla-five-home" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157126
[16:39] <Ubulette> asac, please fix this one, it's creating troubles in other distro
[16:40] <asac> other distro?
[16:40] <Ubulette> bug 162430
[16:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 162430 in exaile "Fix for #136202 causes problems on non-Debian distros" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162430
[16:40] <Ubulette> bug 136202
[16:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136202 in exaile "Segmentation fault when clicked on Artist tab on Information page (dup-of: 123409)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136202
[16:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123409 in exaile "[exaile/gutsy] crash in lib gtkembedmoz" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123409
[16:47] <bluekuja> asac: found duplicate status token ('KEYEXPIRED').
[16:47] <Ubulette> asac, it's a trivial fix
[16:48] <Ubulette> LIBDIR is undefined
[16:48] <asac> bluekuja: where did you get that from?
[16:48] <bluekuja> asac: I was talking with anthony towns
[16:49] <asac> thats strange ... my key is still valid ... at least the sign subkey
 yeah, the upload key has expired, and if it's been refreshed, the refreshed key hasn't made it into the keyring yet
[16:50] <asac> strange
[16:50] <asac> bluekuja: maybe ask him which key the upload key is :/
[16:51] <asac> or if there is no valid encryption key anymore could cause this
[16:51] <bluekuja> asked, now he gives me
[16:51] <bluekuja> the ID
[16:52] <asac> ?
[16:53] <bluekuja> asac: http://pastebin.com/m15b5c1d
[16:54] <bluekuja> sub   2048g/BD94D82D 2003-08-15 [expired: 2006-07-05]
[16:54] <bluekuja>  sub   4096R/8D7621E6 2006-01-25 [expired: 2007-01-25]
[16:54] <bluekuja>  sub   4096R/9580ABA9 2006-11-15 [expired: 2007-07-13]
[16:54] <bluekuja>  sub   4096R/140C6664 2006-11-23 [expires: 2008-05-16]
[16:55] <bluekuja> asac: it looks like a parsing bug
[16:56] <bluekuja> gpg: NOTE: signature key 8D7621E6 expired Thu 25 Jan 2007 07:57:47 AM UTC
[16:56] <Ubulette> asac, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~b1~rc3+nobinonly-0ubuntu1/+build/444689
[16:57] <Ubulette> not our fault
[16:57] <asac> well
[16:58] <asac> bluekuja: where did you talk to aj?
[16:58] <bluekuja> asac: irc
[16:58] <asac> which channel?
[16:58] <bluekuja> asac: I ask him to come here?
[16:58] <bluekuja> via pm
[16:58] <asac> ok
[16:58] <bluekuja> just a sec
[16:59] <bluekuja> heya aj :)
[17:00] <aj> gpg: NOTE: signature key 8D7621E6 expired Thu 25 Jan 2007 07:57:47 AM UTC
[17:00] <aj> that message is the problem, i don't see why though
[17:00] <aj> asac:^
[17:02] <bluekuja> aj: is possible to have more than a key for uploads?
[17:02] <asac> aj: yes ... but i have another one .. and already did loads of uploads
[17:03] <aj> well, it's not giving that message for the other two expired keys
[17:03] <asac> why would gpg sign with an expired subkey when there is a valid one avail?
[17:03] <aj> it didn't -- gpgv says it used the current one
[17:05] <asac> hmmm the subkey that should be used is 140C6664 ... and i just checked that its used according to what is said when signing. so gpgv has a bug and chokes if there is any expired S key?
[17:05] <aj> gpg --list-sigs 140C6664 # why does that think 8D7621E6 is special enough to warrant a NOTE?
[17:05] <aj> aren't the other expired keys S keys too?
[17:07] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1984/
[17:07] <asac> just the one
[17:07] <asac> the other two are E
[17:08] <asac> what do you mean by gpg --list-sigs 140C6664 ... warrants a note?
[17:09] <asac> i don't see anything about 8D7621E6 in the  output
[17:09] <asac> aj: ?
[17:10] <aj> $ gpg --keyring /srv/keyring.debian.org/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -v --list-sigs 140C6664 | head -n1
[17:10] <aj> gpg: using PGP trust model
[17:10] <aj> gpg: NOTE: signature key 8D7621E6 expired Thu 25 Jan 2007 07:57:47 AM UTC
[17:10] <aj> pub   1024D/A824B93F 2003-08-15
[17:10] <asac> strange
[17:10] <aj> you're not getting that?
[17:11] <aj> $ gpg --version
[17:11] <aj> gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.6
[17:11] <aj> ii  gnupg          1.4.6-2        GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement
[17:11] <asac> i get that ... forgot the -v before
[17:12] <aj> oh, it doesn't show up without -v?
[17:12] <asac> yes
[17:12] <asac> its not there without -v
[17:23] <bluekuja> asac: problem fixed or still investigating?
[17:23] <asac> i don't think its fixed
[17:23] <asac> aj: what do you think?
[17:24] <asac> there should be others affected as well ... e.g. if they use subkeys for signing
[17:25] <aj> well, someone else's upload was blocked because of an expired key, but i hacked an update to thekeyring which made it work fine for that upload
[17:26] <asac> aj: maybe i should delkey the expired subkey?
[17:27] <aj> Torsten Werner
[17:28] <asac> aj: ok i delkey the bad subkey ... no the --list-keys doesn't show up the signature
[17:28] <asac> aeh the NOTE
[17:28] <aj> okay, using the old keyring, -v --list-keys gives me:
[17:28] <aj> gpg: NOTE: signature key C4CF8EC3 expired Wed 31 Oct 2007 07:08:33 PM UTC
[17:29] <aj> gpg: NOTE: signature key C4CF8EC3 expired Wed 31 Oct 2007 07:08:33 PM UTC
[17:29] <aj> after doing a --recv-keys for that key, that goes away though
[17:29] <aj> hrm, and the expired key disappears
[17:29] <asac> aj: i send my key to subkeys ... and keyring.debian.org
[17:29] <asac> (just sent) ... maybe we should wait till tomorrow and then we can retry?
[17:30] <aj> worth a shot; it might need elmo to do something manual to update the keyring though
[17:30] <aj> -rw-r--r-- 1 archvsync archvsync 23932393 2007-08-04 11:35 debian-keyring.gpg
[17:30] <aj> is the date of the last update
[17:30] <asac> in the end i think its gpgv that is buggy ... why would it care if there is an expired subkey?
[17:31] <aj> i don't know, but i can't trace the codepath to see what exactly it's complaining about
[17:31] <aj> and changing dak doesn't seem an option, because it can't tell which key the KEYEXPIRED message is for
[17:31] <aj> (so has to assume it's the one being used)
[17:32] <asac> right
[17:32] <asac> lets see if it goes away with the subkey deleted (if that propagates to the keyservers at all)
[17:32] <asac> aj: i'll ping you tomorrow. thanks so far!
[17:32] <aj> righto, ttyl
[17:33] <asac> bluekuja: so maybe i am not a DD anymore :)
[17:33] <asac> lets hope
[17:33] <bluekuja> lol
[17:33] <bluekuja> if it doesnt work, what happens?
[17:33] <asac> ask elmo to fix it
[17:33] <bluekuja> someone need to sign your key again?
[17:33] <asac> yeah :)
[17:33] <asac> i missed the chance to get loads of signatures
[17:33] <bluekuja> oh damn..
[17:33] <asac> in UDS :)
[17:33] <asac> in january i can get a bunch again
[17:34] <bluekuja> what should I ask to elmo?
[17:34] <asac> bluekuja: no ... don't ask ... i will ask once its clear that i need his help
[17:34] <bluekuja> asac: can aj ack the upload anyway?
[17:34] <asac> no
[17:34] <asac> bluekuja: if it doesn't work out tomorrow we have to get another sponsor for you
[17:35] <asac> :)
[17:35] <bluekuja> asac: and why this problem went out now?
[17:35] <asac> ask siretart :)
[17:35] <asac> he is your AM after all
[17:35] <asac> because they updated gpgv recently
[17:35] <bluekuja> yep, true
[17:35] <bluekuja> ah
[17:35] <asac> which appears to choke on things the previous version didn't
[17:36] <asac> lets wait till tomorrow
[17:36] <bluekuja> I'm lucky we have find out this problem
[17:36] <asac> well ... i am pretty unhappy about it
[17:36] <asac> Ubulette: ffox 3 is up
[17:36] <bluekuja> yes, but at least you know it
[17:36] <bluekuja> and it won't be a surprise
[17:36] <bluekuja> for another upload
[17:36] <asac> since we have versioned build-depends the buildd should try once xul is build
[17:37] <asac> if it doesn't happen you need to ping archive admins to give it back
[17:37] <Ubulette> asac, could you force a retry of xul lpia ? elmo just told me it's fixed
[17:37] <asac> Ubulette: ask an archive admin
[17:37] <asac> buildd admin to be correct
[17:38] <asac> doko seb128 pitti mithrandir
[17:38] <bluekuja> asac: but why did you set an expiry date for your keys?
[17:38] <Ubulette> done
[17:38] <asac> well i read somewhere its good practice to use subkeys and let them expire
[17:38] <bluekuja> actually my keys won't expire
[17:38] <bluekuja> to prevent this kind of problems
[17:38] <asac> yeah
[17:38] <Ubulette> all keys expire
[17:38] <asac> when?
[17:38] <bluekuja> Ubulette, not true
[17:39] <asac> my mainkey is set to expire: never
[17:39] <bluekuja> same
[17:39] <bluekuja> here
[17:39] <Ubulette> you asked for that
[17:39] <asac> which is why i use subkeys to reduce the amount of exposure that key gets
[17:39] <Ubulette> it's 1 year by default or something like that
[17:39] <bluekuja> Ubulette, ?
[17:39] <asac> yes by default it expires
[17:40] <asac> Ubulette: who did you ask to give back?
[17:40] <asac> don't see any message on -devel
[17:40] <bluekuja> asac: well, at least you know there is a problem
[17:40] <Ubulette> elmo on #lp
[17:40] <bluekuja> about them
[17:40] <asac> ah ok
[17:40] <bluekuja> and you won't find that out
[17:40] <bluekuja> with a REJECTED mail
[17:40] <asac> right
[17:40] <bluekuja> on another upload
[17:40] <bluekuja> ;)
[17:41] <Ubulette> any reason not to push ff <IP_ADDRESS>+2nobinonly-0ubuntu2 to gutsy ? it will help tons of users for bug 157126
[17:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 157126 in mozilla-firefox "FF2 without default mozilla-five-home" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157126
[17:41] <asac> Ubulette: i will fix this in next security upload
[17:41] <asac> it will take that much time anyways to go through proposed
[17:42] <asac> i have to be sure that this doesn't cause any regressions though
[17:42] <bluekuja> asac: and your main-key is not registered?
[17:42] <asac> bluekuja: it is ... but i don't sign with that
[17:42] <Ubulette> not having it sure causes issues
[17:42] <bluekuja> asac: ah damn
[17:42] <bluekuja> asac: so in fact you don't have to get signatures again
[17:43] <bluekuja> if the main-key is registered
[17:43] <asac> bluekuja: i hope not
[17:43] <bluekuja> I hope not too
[17:43] <bluekuja> ;)
[17:43] <asac> ok i have to pack my things ... will be back eventually tomorrow ... in holiday mode
[17:44] <bluekuja> lol
[17:44] <bluekuja> ok
[17:44] <bluekuja> :)
[17:48] <asac> Ubulette: so you already have three packages on your list in LP :)
[17:48]  * Ubulette is sending subliminal remained to bluekuja to complete the review of sm1...
[17:48] <asac> Ubulette: we should get prism in as well
[17:49] <Ubulette> gasp, remainder
[17:49] <bluekuja> Ubulette, I'll take a look at it tomorrow
[17:49] <bluekuja> I'm out this evening for a party
[17:49] <Ubulette> asac, i'll review the gasp with rhelmer debs later today
[17:49] <bluekuja> and will come back a bit drunk
[17:49] <asac> if you want to help .. we need to port yelp and devhelp to use XPCOM_GLUE
[17:49] <bluekuja> so won't touch the pc
[17:49] <bluekuja> :P
[17:49] <Ubulette> s/gasp/gaps/
[17:49] <asac> that should be fairly simple though
[17:49] <bluekuja> tomorrow I should make it
[17:50] <bluekuja> Ubulette, send me a mail please
[17:50] <bluekuja> with right details
[17:50] <asac> except that gtkmozembed is broken due to url-classifier ... but one can just do a testbuild without safe-browsing
[17:50] <asac> oh i have an idea
[17:51] <Ubulette> maybe open a bug upstream to attract attention to that
[17:51] <asac> well ... i will try to use --enable-url-classifier instead of safe-browsing on xulrunner side
[17:52] <asac> as xulrunner doesn't implement safe-browsing anyways
[17:52] <asac> maybe that makes a difference :)
[17:53] <Ubulette> I don't know if prism and other xulapps could use safe-browsing through xul
[17:54] <asac> no ... xulrunner doesn't ship any safe-browsing code
[17:54] <asac> its all in browser/ ... the toolkit only contains url-classifier
[17:54] <asac> i will see soon
[17:54] <asac> build is running
[17:55] <asac> i doubt it makes any difference except maybe breaking firefox safebrowsing code :) ... but well worth a try as it builds without me paying attention
[17:55] <asac> now of to packing
[18:04] <Ubulette> E: Package cdbs has no installation candidate
[18:04] <Ubulette> Package cdbs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:04] <Ubulette> still lpia
[18:31] <asac> ok out ... i wouldn't bother too much about lpia now ... let the others do the frontier diggin ;)
[18:31] <asac> cu tomorrow
[18:33] <Ubulette> ++
[19:09] <rhelmer> Ubulette: cool let me know if you'd like to discuss the changes i made; the only thing i didn't get quite working was i'd like to be able to click on .webapps from firefox and have them launch with prism
[19:10] <rhelmer> Ubulette: it does work from nautilus however
[21:59] <rhelmer> the only problem is that firefox tries to do "prism whatever.webapp" not "prism -webapp whatever.webapp"
[23:20] <Ubulette> rhelmer, sorry, i've been busy with something else today
[23:20] <Ubulette> i've had a look at the licences
[23:20] <Ubulette> it seems it's only MPL 1.1
[23:21] <Ubulette> except dom inspector with is tri licenced MPL/GPL/LGPL
[23:21] <Ubulette> which is
[23:21] <Ubulette> would be nice to have the whole thing tri-licenced
[23:22] <Ubulette> i'm no expert in licences but I remember the debate with debian a while ago
[23:25] <rhelmer> Ubulette: yeah mark finkle says tri-license should be fine
[23:25] <rhelmer> i made a new patch to mozilla bug 403593
[23:25] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 403593 in Prism "prism on ubuntu should be in menu, have icons, file associations, etc." [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=403593
[23:25] <Ubulette> rhelmer, i see you're copying xulrunner-stub as prism-bin. Is there an advantage compared to just making a symlink like I did ?
[23:26] <rhelmer> Ubulette: hmm i must've misread, i thought yours just had a shell script which called xulrunner ?
[23:26] <Ubulette> (ie, to the script, not to -bin or -stub)
[23:26] <Ubulette> yes
[23:27] <rhelmer> if symlink instead of copy works that sounds fine
[23:27] <rhelmer> i am not sure if the LICENSE file i added is all done correctly but i'll find out :)
[23:27] <rhelmer> we may need to edit all the source files too, but i think the LICENSE overrides according to EXHIBIT A
[23:27] <Ubulette> i can do it, in fact, i've already made one
[23:28] <Ubulette> I'd prefer the sources to be changed upstream
[23:29] <Ubulette> i've derived my copyright file from the one i've made earlier for xulrunner 1.9
[23:29] <rhelmer> Ubulette: cool check out https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=288750
[23:30] <rhelmer> Ubulette: there is also a Makefile in there that you can do e.g. "make install PREFIX=whatever"
[23:30] <rhelmer> let me know if these things help
[23:30] <rhelmer> i haven't started working on the icon issues quite yet
[23:30] <Ubulette> usual debian way is a build system that honors DESTDIR
[23:31] <rhelmer> Ubulette: s/PREFIX/DESTDIR/ ? that's ok with me i thought PREFIX was the norm.. i have been trying to avoid autoconf for this as it seems overkill :)
[23:31] <Ubulette> PREFIX could be /usr then debhelper or cdbs could prepend DESTDIR = debian/tmp to make debian/tmp/usr/{bin,lib}/....
[23:36] <Ubulette> hold on, let me find a pointer explaining that
[23:36] <Ubulette> here is the proposed copyright file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1989/
[23:38] <rhelmer> Ubulette: ok that sounds reasonable
[23:38] <Ubulette> rhelmer, what is your prism.keys file for ?
[23:39] <rhelmer> Ubulette: hmm is that needed anymore? i thought that's what update-mime-database used, or something
[23:39] <rhelmer> do we only need .desktop and .xml now?
[23:39] <rhelmer> (brb)
[23:40] <Ubulette> shared-mime-info wants the .xml
[23:40] <Ubulette> the desktop obviously is needed too
[23:42] <Ubulette> I need a better default icon, ie a prism with nice alpha colors. mine comes from xulrunner (the blue planet)
[23:42] <rhelmer> maybe keys is just cargo-cult; i followed some gnome howto to try to figure it out
[23:42] <rhelmer> Ubulette: i've got some, derived from the .ico; one is in my patch
[23:42] <rhelmer> that should really be the default xpm
[23:44] <rhelmer> hmm webrunner.xpm in svn is a transparent prism icon
[23:44] <rhelmer> app.xpm is the blue planet
[23:45] <Ubulette> cool. i'll use the one from sources and drop mine. we always prefer stuff from upstream
[23:46] <Ubulette> (don't tell debian guys, they should be mad about me for the rebranding ;)
[23:48] <Ubulette> hmm, now the .desktop file. %u %U %f %F is the question
[23:52] <rhelmer> heh
[23:52] <rhelmer> Ubulette: %F seemed to be the only one for work for me
[23:53] <Ubulette> for urls, shouldn't it be %U ?
[23:53] <Ubulette> well, i never remember
[23:58] <rhelmer> Ubulette: hmm doesn't prism only support files right now with -webapp?


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