[01:00] <lifeless> barry: ping
[02:03] <barry> lifeless: pong
[02:26] <lifeless> barry: wanted to talk about python 2.6.3 & boost
[02:26] <lifeless> barry: and karmic releasing just around the corner
[02:52] <barry> lifeless: hi.  i'm here for a little bit longer.  let's talk
[02:53] <lifeless> barry: well, mainly wondering if there is anything we can do to 'fix' things safely, as the release is days away
[02:54] <barry> i only just heard about the __doc__ issue today.  is there anything else affecting boost?
[02:54] <lifeless> not that I know of
[02:55] <lifeless> I'm not personally involved, was just trying to get the right folk discussing stuff
[02:55] <lifeless> which is really you, slangasek/doko and on #ubuntu-devel ;)
[02:55] <barry> ah, are they chatting about it now? (probably not, it's doko's bed time :)
[02:56] <barry> i'm also not yet convinced that the boost failure is a python 2.6.3 regression
[02:57] <lifeless> well, __doc__ becoming readonly buggered some code of ours in bzr too, IIRC.
[02:58] <lifeless> anyhow, like I say, not personally involved, and if you're aware of the issue now/already - great.
[02:59] <barry> yep.  the problem comes down to this: if we try to revert the change or make a further patch, then we won't release python 2.6.4 on the 25th.  it'll have to go through another rc, meaning at least another week after that.  otoh, if this really is a serious regression, then we have to address it.
[02:59] <barry> python bug 7183 tracks this, though i think it was caused by the fix for but 5890
[03:00] <barry> heh
[03:00] <barry> lifeless: can you tell me, was the problem in bzr extension code, or pure python?
[03:01] <lifeless> barry: offhand, from memory, pure python
[03:01] <barry> lifeless: i'd love to have a short reproducible pure python example
[03:04] <lifeless> barry: I'll have a quick peek at our log and see if my offhand memories are real; if so I can probably find our diff
[03:04] <barry> lifeless: awesome
[03:05] <barry> lifeless: if we're going to hold up 2.6.4, we will have to do it in the next day or two
[03:05] <lifeless> please wait o/~
[04:26] <braiamp> i wanna report a disbanded LoCo
[04:27] <lifeless> the community council would be the right place to mail
[04:27] <braiamp> ok, give me the mail please
[04:28] <braiamp> ok
[04:28] <braiamp> i have it
[04:28] <braiamp> i dosent read all
[04:28] <braiamp> the info
[05:11] <nhandler> I'm not really sure where corrections for help.launchpad.net should go, but you need to s/Freenode/freenode/g (Replace freenode with freenode). I just saw https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback, but I'm pretty sure it is on some other wiki pages
[05:37] <MTecknology> nhandler: hm?
[05:37] <MTecknology> why should Freenode be lower case?
[05:38] <MTecknology> I thought because Freenode is a proper noun is should be upper case..
[05:40] <MTecknology> nhandler: You're obviously he expert - I'm jsut curious about the reasoning. I can't do anything either way..
[06:49] <al-maisan> Good morning
[07:48] <fale> hi
[07:49] <fale> is normal that If I upload a package with the architecture "all" it compiles a cross platform package, put it in every architecture/Packages file but the Lp User Interface shows it only for i386?
[08:25] <mwhudson> fale: arch all packages are always built on i386 machines
[08:25] <mwhudson> fale: is that what you're asking?
[08:26] <fale> mwhudson: no, I'm asking why from the user interface it seems like the package is only available for i386
[08:26] <mwhudson> ah, don't know about that
[09:36] <wgrant> fale: The LP UI shows the *builds*, not the archs on which it is available.
[09:36] <wgrant> It is rather confusing, but arch-indep packages have only an i386 build.
[09:36] <fale> wgrant: I see.. I think it is a little bit confusing.. but I can see the result
[12:15] <garyvdm> Hi - I googled this, but was not able to find an answer. Is it possible to see the number of people who have selected the "This bug affects me"?
[12:15] <garyvdm> ... for a bug.
[12:19] <nhandler> MTecknology: I cannot remember the reasoning at this time, but trust me that it is freenode
[12:20] <mrevell> garyvdm: I'm afraid there isn't, yet.
[12:20] <garyvdm> ok
[12:34] <intellectronica> garyvdm: you can get the number using the API, but not using the web UI
[12:35] <intellectronica> so if you want to collect statistics or something like this you can write a script using launchpadlib that will get the number of affected users
[12:39] <garyvdm> intellectronica: I have no more high importance bugs, and I'm trying to see which bugs should be high.
[12:40] <intellectronica> garyvdm: you can sort search results by the number of affected users. you won't see the number, but you can still use it to prioritize
[12:40] <garyvdm> intellectronica: I did a search order by the number of people it affects, but I don't know where the list of 0's start.
[12:40] <intellectronica> right
[14:20] <r0dzilla> is there a way to browse launchpad projects via a hierarchy like games, gnome apps, kde apps, etc..?
[14:24] <salgado> r0dzilla, nope
[14:27] <r0dzilla> so you have to already know the name of the project...
[14:39] <jml> r0dzilla, that's right.
[15:39] <zugu> hello
[15:40] <zugu> I cannot browse launchpad, I get timeout errors
[15:40] <zugu> like this: Our edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad.net, so we can catch those before they hit a wider audience. As a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team, you're more likely to experience them. If this is blocking your work, you can disable redirection.
[15:41] <zugu> there's a button to "disable redirection for 2 hours", but it solves absolutely nithing; and I don't remember signing up for any beta testing
[15:41] <zugu> can anyone tell me what to do to solve this?
[15:45] <_stink_> i'm trying to update the description of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/456902
[15:46] <_stink_> but when i click the green check to submit my changes, i get a spinny busy wheel and the textarea is surrounded by a red border... and it sits like this forever.
[15:46] <_stink_> dunno if this is a launchpad bug or not.
[15:46] <_stink_> i've tried it twice, same result.  my changes don't end up in the bug report
[15:59] <zugu> is anyone alive in this channel?
[16:01] <_stink_> there's a teeny-tiny bit of text at the bottom of the red box that says "Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document."
[16:03] <_stink_> even if i 1) click to edit it, then immediately 2) click to submit it unchanged, i get the same red border and JSON error.
[16:03] <beuno> zugu, what's your Launchpad username?
[16:03] <beuno> _stink_, could you file a bug please?
[16:07] <_stink_> beuno: yep, doing now.
[16:11] <_stink_> beuno: looks like it's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/331990
[16:12] <beuno> _stink_, thanks
[16:12] <_stink_> comments say it's in edge but not release.
[16:12] <_stink_> np
[16:14] <zugu> beuno: why doe it matter?
[16:14] <zugu> *does
[16:14] <_stink_> awesome, worked fine in edge.
[16:15] <beuno> zugu, so I can find out why you're on edge
[16:15] <zugu> beuno: my username is zugurudumba
[16:16] <beuno> zugu, so, you're not a beta member
[16:16] <zugu> beuno, that's what I thought
[16:17] <beuno> you probably ended up on edge because you followed a link nthat had edge in it
[16:17] <zugu> beuno, how do I know if I landed on edge?
[16:17] <zugu> beuno, and what can I do to solve this?
[16:18] <beuno> zugu, the URL has the word "edge" in it on the beggining
[16:18] <beuno> edge.launchpad.net
[16:18] <beuno> just remove the "edge." from the URL
[16:18] <zugu> beuno, no it has no "edge" in it
[16:19] <zugu> beuno, and it never had
[16:19] <beuno> so you're not on edge
[16:19] <zugu> beuno, I can't even submit a bug
[16:22] <zugu> same error occurs even when i'm logged out
[16:22] <zugu> there's something definitely wrong with the site
[16:23] <beuno> zugu, yes, we are under particularly high load
[16:23] <beuno> it's being solved today by adding more hardware
[16:24] <zugu> if that is true, I shouldn't be he only one experiencing timeouts
[16:24] <zugu> *the only one
[16:24] <beuno> zugu, you are not
[17:12] <larsemil> how do i create a main branch for my new projekt?
[17:12] <larsemil> project
[17:18] <larsemil> none that can give me a hint in the right direction?
[17:18] <LarstiQ> larsemil: I'm not sure I understand your question
[17:19] <LarstiQ> larsemil: in launchpad, you can set any branch as the development focus for a series
[17:19] <LarstiQ> larsemil: is that what you meant?
[18:58] <jcastro> Hi, so it looks like someone is changing upstream links on projects to point to this: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubslax
[18:58] <jcastro> and it's affecting our ability to link to upstream bug links
[19:03] <Martin_vW> I've uploaded a package to my PPA, but update-manager always displays a warning that the package is unauthenticated, although I've imported the key. I looked into the repository and noticed that there is no Release.gpg file... could this be the problem's source? http://ppa.launchpad.net/martin.von.wittich/libwnck-nodimming/ubuntu/dists/karmic/
[19:03] <beuno> sinzui, jcastro has an interesting problem ^^
[19:04] <jcastro> someone told me lack of acl's was a feature on this, but I would like submit this as an argument for having such things. :D
[19:04] <jcastro> (I'm fixing the upstream links now)
[19:05] <jcastro> trying to fix the link to gnome-desktop give me an oops: (Error ID: OOPS-1391EC431)
[19:06] <Ursinha> jcastro, let me see
[19:06] <jcastro> no worries, let me know how I can help.
[19:17] <jcastro> Ursinha: the person responsed to my mail and just was confused, so I don't think it was malicious or anything
[20:35] <chomwitt_> hi. i subscribed and sent a email to a list one day and a half ago but still i cant see it in the lists archive and i didnt get it in my mailbox. Where can i test to see whats wrong?
[20:53] <webm0nk3y> has anyone noticed that karma isn't working anymore?
[20:56] <soren> webm0nk3y: How do you figure that?
[20:59] <webm0nk3y> soren, in our project ubuntuone-servers, the karma doesn't seem to be changing for anyone
[21:00] <soren> webm0nk3y: https://edge.launchpad.net/~statik/+karma as an example seems to have gotten karma for recent actions.
[21:03] <webm0nk3y> soren, perhaps its the karma display on the project page then
[21:09] <andres24> there is some problem with launchpad server?
[21:52] <james_w> how do I unmark a bug as private?
[21:53] <james_w> it's not in the global actions on the bug page
[21:53] <james_w> and not a link next to the information that it is private
[21:54] <micahg> james_w: There should be a little foot next to the statement this is private
[21:54] <micahg> in the top right
[21:54] <james_w> I'm pretty sure there isn't
[21:54] <james_w> is it a browser issue? can you see it?
[21:54] <micahg> what browser?
[21:54] <micahg> which bug?
[21:56] <james_w> well, you can't see the bug :-)
[21:56] <james_w> I'm in chromium at the moment
[21:57] <micahg> let me check a private bug I can see
[21:57] <james_w> <a class="sprite edit" id="privacy-link"
[21:57] <james_w>        href="/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/458086/+secrecy"
[21:57] <james_w>        title="Change privacy/security">
[21:58] <micahg> appears in firefox 3.6b1 in edge and production
[21:58] <micahg> I'll try chromium
[21:58] <james_w> yeah, I can see it in firefox
[21:59] <micahg> interesting it appeared for half a second and disappeared
[22:00] <micahg> I'd say file a bug in malone
[22:00] <micahg> something is different about that control than the other ajax ones
[22:18] <stevecrozz> I could use some help building packages using PPA. I'm building php with a patch that requires another package from my PPA
[22:18] <stevecrozz> how do I tell launchpad to depend on and build against that package
[22:19] <micahg> stevecrozz: if it's in the PPA it'll be used
[22:19] <stevecrozz> oh, cool, thanks
[22:20] <stevecrozz> micahg: does it automatically create the dependency? so that when people apt-get install my php5, it'll automatically get the other package too?
[22:21] <bodhi_zazen> OK, I asked yesterday and was told it would be fixed automagically , but alas still borken
[22:21] <bodhi_zazen> I activated a ppa
[22:21] <bodhi_zazen> here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+ppa-packages
[22:22] <bodhi_zazen> but the package I uploaded is not showing (as you can see)
[22:22] <bodhi_zazen> it shows here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+archive/ppa
[22:22] <bodhi_zazen> so, how to fix the first link ?
[22:26] <stevecrozz> looks like i can add that in debian/control
[22:45] <wgrant> bodhi_zazen: That page shows packages that the person has uploaded. The team has not uploaded any.
[22:46] <wgrant> Note that it *does* show up on https://launchpad.net/~bodhi.zazen/+ppa-packages
[23:10] <bodhi_zazen> OK, so how does a "team" upload packages rather then a person ?
[23:10] <wgrant> bodhi_zazen: They don't, normally. That barely makes sense.
[23:10] <wgrant> Why do you want it to show up on that page?
[23:11] <bodhi_zazen> Well , on this page https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka
[23:11] <bodhi_zazen> is a link "PPA packages"
[23:11] <bodhi_zazen> ase well as a link which goes here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-sangha/+ppa-packages
[23:11] <wgrant> That's gone now (if you look at https://edge.launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka)
[23:12] <bodhi_zazen>  so why would a team have a ppa page if they can not upload packages ?
[23:12] <wgrant> A bug. It shared code with the normal person page.
[23:13] <bodhi_zazen> Ah, if it a bug, how do I fix it ?
[23:13] <bodhi_zazen> or do I report it ?
[23:13] <wgrant> If you look at the page I just linked to, you'll see that it is already fixed.
[23:13] <wgrant> On edge, which runs the latest code, the link is gone.
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> Thank you
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> it makes sense now
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> may I ask for another bug fix ?
[23:14] <wgrant> You should probably file a bug. What is the bug?
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> this url https://launchpad.net/zenbuntu
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> I would like to change it to
[23:15] <bodhi_zazen> https://launchpad.net/zenix
[23:15] <bodhi_zazen> I filed a bug on it
[23:15] <wgrant> That's not a bug. You should ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, and an admin will do it.
[23:16] <bodhi_zazen> I asked on that link a week or so ago, no resonse
[23:17] <bodhi_zazen> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85249
[23:17] <bodhi_zazen> How long should I wait to bump that ?
[23:19] <wgrant> That's odd.
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> advice , if any ?