[00:00] <Smackbook> it and win8 can both burn
[00:00] <boldfilter> In fucking hell
[00:00] <Smackbook> i agree Dr_willis that mate could die, but not as long as ubuntu is pushing unity
[00:00] <brightspark> aguitel_, it seems like the Mint team is currently splitting efforts between MATE and Cinnamon (which is newer and slicker) and they seem to be the primary backers of both, so if and when they go Cinnamon-only MATE may well die.
[00:00] <bloodriver> afaik firefox BETA syncs add ons...but does 12?
[00:00] <awc737> I didn't flood...
[00:00] <zodiak> awc737, I guess it was <cr> as punctuation
[00:00] <brightspark> and the swearing's out of line, chaps.
[00:00] <Smackbook> awc737: your messages buffered and all spit out at once
[00:01] <aguitel_> Dr_willis, brightspark ok
[00:01] <awc737> Dr_willis: unityis intended for tablets...?
[00:01] <Smackbook> awc737: look at it, huge buttons etc
[00:01] <boldfilter> Oops, I found it necessary to express how I felt
[00:01] <Dr_willis> awc737,  i belive Unity and Gnome-shell are both eventually going to be for desktops and tablets.
[00:01] <awc737> i didn't think ubu really worked on tablets correctly
[00:01] <Dr_willis> and TV sets..
[00:01] <Smackbook> even though ubuntu doesnt even work on tablets yet does it?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> awc737,  its a work in progress..
[00:02] <Dr_willis> since i know of no 'ubuntu/unity/linux' tablets in the mainstream markets yet...
[00:02] <boldfilter> Sure, lets make a tablet Ui for our os that's not even on a tablet yet
[00:02] <awc737> Dr_willis: but new features, tacked onto something that is fundamentally incorrect can not make us like it
[00:02] <awc737> they would have to fix it first
[00:02] <Smackbook> boldfilter: exactly
[00:02] <Dr_willis> awc737,  and with each release they make it better and better...
[00:02] <Smackbook> this argument has already been beaten to death in a million places though
[00:02] <awc737> they need to fix the way it works before they make it better, if they expect us to actually use it
[00:03] <boldfilter> I blame the hipsters
[00:03]  * jrib eyes non-support talk :x
[00:03] <boldfilter> Does apple have a tablet os on their desktops. Fuck no, that's stupid you idiot
[00:04] <Smackbook> whats happening is manufacturers are all jumping on this bandwagon that desktops/laptops are dinosaurs and will be obsolete and the world will go to tablets, and no one wants to be left behind, so they are all abandoning mouse computer interfaces for touch screen interfaces  and making people who have *computer* click their mouses on giant touch screen buttons, and depriving them of proper window management and multitasking
[00:04] <jrib> boldfilter: please watch the language (and let's get back to ubuntu support)
[00:04] <brightspark> I did say about the swearing, boldfilter.
[00:04] <bazhang> boldfilter, no cursing here
[00:04] <Dr_willis> actually OS-X is getting more and more tablet like from what ive read.. but i dont use any apple stuff. and its annoying the die-hard apple pc users..
[00:05] <Dr_willis> It will be neat to see what happens  when Ubuntu-TV gets out also. (if it does)
[00:05] <Smackbook> but the market will work this all out
[00:05] <boldfilter> Windows 8 is going to be like Vista
[00:05] <bazhang> Smackbook, get back on topic please
[00:06] <bloodriver> Anyway...gonna try FIREFOX beta and see if that syncs addons...do not see an option on 12 to do this...thanks
[00:06] <boldfilter> That was inconvenient, Thanks!
[00:07] <bazhang> boldfilter, this is ubuntu support only. chit chat elsewhere
[00:07] <artao> do the devs ever come here? how about Shuttleworth?
[00:07] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  ther was some sync button/icon at the bottom of the default firefox start page on windows. that i had to  explore/find in the ubuntu firefox. due to the ubuntu firefox plugins. (or just disable that plugin)
[00:07] <bazhang> artao, no
[00:07] <artao> I just want to tell them to screw off ... re: amazon ads in Ubuntu
[00:07] <boldfilter> Can someone show me how to uninstall Unity its a piece
[00:07] <artao> kay. fair nuf.
[00:07] <ChaoticanarchyX> hi all, can anyone help walk me through how to install a program
[00:08] <artao> those gorram jerks!!!
[00:08] <jrib> artao: great.  Thanks for your input.
[00:08] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  then you use sync on both devices and  get some passcode to enter on the other devices.
[00:08] <blackshirt> !apt
[00:08] <bloodriver> okay i'll try that
[00:08] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, with the package manager
[00:08] <zykotick9> !notunity | boldfilter
[00:08] <Dr_willis> those are not ads.  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/mark-shuttleworth-explains-ubuntus-new-amazon-adware-feature
[00:08] <ChaoticanarchyX> synapse? i tried
[00:08] <jhkier> i have a query - being a noob to Ubuntu VM - what is the best way to code edit directly on the server? any advice?
[00:08] <toshgsh> when i leave the mouse in a location for 1 second it automatically executes the left-mouse-click how can i remove this?
[00:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang i tried using it and it wouldnt
[00:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> tried software center too
[00:09] <Dr_willis> toshgsh,  theres a 'accessability' settings that may be responsible for that.  but im not sure where the settings are. try the 'dash' search feature perhaps and search for accessability (oor how its spelt)
[00:09] <brightspark> boldfilter, do you have another desktop environment currently installed (so when you uninstall Unity, you're not stuck without graphics)?
[00:09] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, try the command line then
[00:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> how do you install with terminal?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  sudo apt-get install Packagename
[00:10] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install packagename  ChaoticanarchyX
[00:10] <brightspark> is aptitude not included with the new Ubuntu release?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> brightspark,  its not reccomended to use aptitude any more
[00:10] <Dr_willis> !aptitude
[00:10] <bazhang> brightspark, its been deprecated
[00:10] <zykotick9> !aptitude | brightspark
[00:11] <BebopSteve> damn that bot is smart
[00:11] <ChaoticanarchyX> the folder containing the binaries is on my desktop will that make the difference when I type that line in?
[00:11] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, thats not how you use the package manager or apt-get, so no
[00:11] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, whats the package name
[00:11] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, if you already have the binaries you use dpkg instead (if it's not also depracated)
[00:12] <zykotick9> brightspark: dpkg isn't deprecated, it's used to install all DEB packages, once apt downloads them...
[00:12] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang ok let me try that
 i've found it thanks
[00:13] <bazhang> ChaoticanarchyX, whats the package name exactly
 it was the universal access
[00:13] <Dr_willis> makes me wonder whats so Universal about it. ;)
[00:13] <Zachster1996> hello
[00:13] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang its the program off the www.processing.org/
[00:13] <brightspark> thanks zykotick9.  I'm still on 10.10 hiding from Unity so I just wanted to check before I gave bad advice.
[00:13] <defaultro> hey folks, glad I found a driver for my Canon printer :D it was a breeze installing. Love it!!!
[00:14] <defaultro> I'm using LibreWriter. Don't like the fonts. Will I be able to use all my ttf fonts that are on Windows?
[00:14] <zykotick9> brightspark: you shouldn't still be using 10.10.  see "/msg ubottu 10.10" for details.
[00:14] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang i downloaded the folder off of it
[00:14] <Zachster1996> to all of you who were helping me yesterday with my byobu problem, ty and i figured it out
[00:15] <boldfilter> Gnome classic isnt so bad
[00:15] <defaultro> so is it possible to use .ttf fonts in Ubuntu?
[00:15] <gordonjcp> defaultro: yes, of course
[00:15] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang: processing-2.0b3
[00:15] <defaultro> great. Where can I find howtos?
[00:16] <gordonjcp> defaultro: http://www.google.com
[00:16] <defaultro> lol
[00:16] <defaultro> that was helpful :D
[00:16] <defaultro> found one
[00:16] <bazhang> gordonjcp, dont do that here
[00:16] <gordonjcp> well come *on*
[00:16] <defaultro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[00:16] <ChaoticanarchyX> is the folder that extracts from the processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz
[00:16] <gordonjcp> did you not think to try searching on your favourite search engine?
[00:16] <brightspark> thanks zykotick9, I understand it's unsupported and I won't ask of anyone's time here to help me :). But I like my setup.
[00:17] <bazhang> gordonjcp, if you dont know, then dont answer. dont direct to google
[00:17] <gordonjcp> bazhang: I *do* know
[00:17] <haylo> defaultro: search like this: how do i install wifi on debian ?     note the space before the question mark and google respects "quoted phrases" as verbatim
[00:17] <Ganharb> Hello! Is there a more specific room for installing world of warcraft in ubuntu 12.04 or would i get help here?
[00:17] <gordonjcp> bazhang: the vast majority of "support" questions in here are answered in the first hit on google with fairly obvious search terms
[00:17] <zykotick9> brightspark: using 'non-updated' software is a bad idea...  not just for you, but for the entire internet-ecosystem...
[00:17] <Dr_willis> defaultro,  ttf fonts have worked for years..
[00:18] <haylo> also adding the keyword "linux" will help a lot
[00:18] <defaultro> I'm following the instructions I posted
[00:18] <bazhang> gordonjcp, just dont
[00:18] <defaultro> what is Nautilus though?
[00:18] <gordonjcp> Dr_willis: I can't really remember a time when they didn't
[00:18] <Dr_willis> !fonts
[00:18] <jhkier> how do i clean up this thread to remoev all the "join" etc etc... is very messy!
[00:18] <Dr_willis> gordonjcp,  i can rember when you had to compile your own font server to get support for 'legal' reasons
[00:18] <gordonjcp> Dr_willis: they were a bit crappy looking in 1995
[00:18] <haylo> defaultro: its a file manager- you know something that shows you folders etc
[00:18] <gordonjcp> Dr_willis: yes
[00:18] <bazhang> jhkier, which client
[00:18] <brightspark> zykotick9, I hadn't heard that.  Can you post a link to an essay on that?  I'd like to read more.
[00:18] <defaultro> got it. thanks haylo
[00:18] <jhkier> bazhang: webclient
[00:19] <Ganharb> Hello! Is there a more specific room for installing world of warcraft in ubuntu 12.04 or would i get help here?
[00:19] <defaultro> also, what window manager could I be using right now? The minimize, restore buttons are on the top left like Mac
[00:19] <bazhang> Ganharb, #winehq
[00:19] <Ganharb> ty
[00:19] <ampd> defaultro: get everything running ok yesterday?
[00:19] <defaultro> ampd, yup
[00:19] <defaultro> looks like my ap went bad
[00:19] <defaultro> not sure why
[00:20] <bazhang> jhkier, there should be button on the top left. if not, try asking in #freenode
[00:20] <ampd> defaultro: hmm, odd
[00:20] <defaultro> it is very odd
[00:20] <defaultro> now, i am connected to my Uverse wifi
[00:20] <jhkier> thanks :)
[00:20] <ampd> defaultro: so maybe it wasn't ubuntu messing with the network?
[00:20] <defaultro> ampd, what gui am I using right now? The window looks like a Mac
[00:21] <ampd> defaultro: post screenshot to imgur
[00:21] <Dr_willis> !manual | defaultro
[00:21] <Jiraya> bonsoir
[00:21] <defaultro> ampd, it only started when I installed ubuntu. I found another forum which has the same problem as mine. His, it also ruined their school network
[00:21] <bloodriver> groovy!  i found the add on switch and now am very happy!  that's for the info bro :)  thanks all!  later.
[00:21] <Dr_willis> compare the manuals screenshots with yourrs :)
[00:21] <jhkier> back onto ubuntu - Wondering if anyone can recommend a Code Editor/process for my VM... what is the best way to go about this?
[00:21] <defaultro> Dr_willis, will do
[00:21] <ChaoticanarchyX> bazhang: whats the command line in terminal to use the dpkg to install binaries?
[00:22] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  you install .deb packages. not 'binaries'    sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[00:22] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  or use gdebi foo.deb  (if you install gdebi)
[00:22] <ChaoticanarchyX> sorry, still dipping my feet in the linux pool
[00:22] <Dr_willis> !info gdebu
[00:22] <Dr_willis> !info gdebi
[00:22] <ampd> defaultro: you can also log off and see which session is selected in gdm
[00:23] <Jiraya> bonsoir
[00:23] <defaultro> got it
[00:23] <Jiraya> bonsoir
[00:23] <zykotick9> !fr | Jiraya
[00:23] <defaultro> brb, I'll prepare my windows so I can copy all the .ttf files
[00:23] <Jiraya> Merci
[00:23] <Jiraya> ubottu
[00:23] <boldfilter> How do you put unity on the right
[00:24] <Dr_willis> boldfilter,  the unity left side panel? You dont.  theres some unofficial (or used to be) hacks out for it.  but they had issues..
[00:24] <boldfilter> Stupid
[00:24] <drobati> I've just installed 12.04 on a new system. Windows 7 was already installed and now I don't have a grub showing up on boot. It goes STRAIGHT into Win7. I also have no internet on the machine because for whatever reason the wireless card is not working.
[00:24] <jhkier> anyone got insight into this one ? sorry for bombing into the conversation.
[00:25] <ampd> jhkier: what are you asking, what editor to use?
[00:25] <brightspark> jhkier, are you asking about a generic text editor or an integrated development environment?
[00:26] <ChaoticanarchyX> dr willis i dont have a deb folder with those kinds of binaries. i got the folder off the http://www.processing.org/
[00:26] <ChaoticanarchyX> its for C programming
[00:26] <jhkier> ampd: well yes I guess... but its a VM... so I'm more interested in the process. it seems a bit mental to VNC into ubuntu and then launch an editor... how does everyone else do this #Noob
[00:26] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,   a 'deb' file has .deb as the extension.. I have no idea what you mean by 'binaries'
[00:27] <jhkier> brightspark: not really any need for a IDE..
[00:27] <ampd> jhkier: vim?
[00:27] <ChaoticanarchyX> then im probably mis-wording it
[00:27] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  if its not a .deb then you dont use the package manager tools to install it.
[00:27] <ChaoticanarchyX> anywho they are the files that im supposed to install
[00:27] <jhkier> a half dcent php editor would surfice.
[00:28] <ampd> jhkier: if you want a gui, i've used bluefish before and it was ok
[00:28] <gordonjcp> jhkier: gedit?
[00:28] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  whats the exact file name you downloaded and are trying to work with?
[00:28] <theplanet> im running 11.04. can i upgrade to latest without wiping my current install?
[00:28] <ampd> jhkier: i'd try vim though
[00:28] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, give us a hint as to what you have.  File extension?
[00:28] <gordonjcp> theplanet: yes
[00:28] <Dr_willis> theplanet,  yes. but make backups. :)
[00:28] <jhkier> ampd: Is Vim just a terminal editor?  - I'm presuming bluefish is something which I run from the ubuntu desktop?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | theplanet
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you already have gedit
[00:29] <Dr_willis> jhkier,  theres gvim :)
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you do not need to install anything else
[00:29] <theplanet> Dr_willis, why, is it prone to fail?
[00:29] <ampd> jhkier: yea, vim is terminal, bluefish is targeted towards web dev
[00:29] <gordonjcp> theplanet: no but you can't be too careful ;-)
[00:29] <jhkier> so the best way to do it is simply VNC and edit from there?
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: no
[00:29] <brightspark> jhkier, vim is hard for a first-time user.  Nano runs on the command line and is a bit friendlier, but less powerful.
[00:29] <drobati> vim is awesome but not like other editors
[00:29] <gordonjcp> jhkier: don't VNC to your server, that's silly
[00:29] <theplanet> how many documented cases of the upgrade failing do you know of?
[00:29] <Dr_willis> theplanet,  data worth keeping is worth backing up...
[00:30] <gordonjcp> jhkier: What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:30] <zykotick9> theplanet: WAY too many to count ;)
[00:30] <drobati> I recommend nano for jhkier.
[00:30] <jhkier> brightspark: i've used nano it works ok.. so i guess thats what i'm looking for.. something like that but allows me to move around a bit easier
[00:30] <Dr_willis> theplanet,  you would not belive the # of times ive seen peoplle in here say 'i was upgradeing, and had a power outage...' and so forth.
[00:30] <ampd> Dr_willis: doesn't ubuntu recommend upgrading to 11.10 first?
[00:30] <theplanet> it's a laptop though
[00:30] <jhkier> gordonjcp: vnc = my thoughts exactly...
[00:30] <theplanet> god damnit
[00:30] <Dr_willis> ampd,  you must go from one release to the next, Untill you get to a LTS - THEN you can go LTS -> LTS
[00:30] <gordonjcp> jhkier: don't even edit on your server
[00:30] <ampd> jhkier: bluefish is full on gui development
[00:30] <gordonjcp> jhkier: just, *don't*
[00:30] <theplanet> im more willing to get a new laptop and go from there
[00:30] <zykotick9> theplanet: expect upgrades from release to release to fail - an you need to do it twice (once for 11.04 -> 11.10 then twice with 11.10 -> 12.04)
[00:31] <ChaoticanarchyX> Dr_willis: its on the website i posted, its under the downloads for linux 32 bit version. when its downloaded the folder it extracts out is called processing-2.0b3
[00:31] <ampd> Dr_willis: ahh, ok
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you've already got gedit, which has syntax highlighting for pretty much anything you're going to run across thanks to gtksourceview
[00:31] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  whats the EXACT file name of the file you downloaded?
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: now, set up some sort of source control like git
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you *need* source control
[00:31] <gordonjcp> jhkier: it *will* save your backside, right when you need it to
[00:32] <ChaoticanarchyX> Dr_willis processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz
[00:32] <jhkier> ampd: so bluefish would have a full copy of the site on my desktop and push the files up everytime.
[00:32] <Dr_willis> ChaoticanarchyX,  so thats an ARCHIVE like a .zip, you extract it then figure out what to do with its contents.
[00:32] <jhkier> gordonjcp: so gedit - where is it?
[00:32] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, file-roller processing-2.0b3-linux32.tgz
[00:32] <ampd> jhkier: here's some movies on what it does: http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/screenshots.html
[00:32] <ChaoticanarchyX> Dr_willis: yes sir.
[00:32] <gordonjcp> jhkier: it's already installed, it's the standard editor
[00:32] <gordonjcp> well, the standard GUI editor
[00:33] <ChaoticanarchyX> file-roller a program?
[00:33] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, yep.
[00:33] <gordonjcp> jhkier: don't forget, you're running Linux on your desktop machine
[00:33] <jhkier> gordonjcp: this is where you're losing me... GUI editor without VNC... i don't undersatnd.
[00:33] <ampd> jhkier: it does have site upload/download i guess, havent used it though
[00:33] <gordonjcp> jhkier: where does VNC come into it?
[00:34] <jhkier> ampd: yeah.. no linux on desktop.. that might be.
[00:34] <ChaoticanarchyX> would i look under software center or synapse for that?
[00:34] <jhkier> it
[00:34] <gordonjcp> jhkier: what are you trying to do, exactly?
[00:34] <ampd> gordonjcp: i still can't figure it out myself
[00:34] <jhkier> gordonjcp: I was querying how i would get a GUI interface on my remote machine....
[00:34] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, it may be installed by default.
[00:34] <gordonjcp> jhkier: you don't
[00:35] <gordonjcp> jhkier: that's an astonishingly retarded idea
[00:35] <ChaoticanarchyX> It is allready
[00:35] <ChaoticanarchyX> I allready extracted the files
[00:35] <jhkier> gordonjcp: I know... thats what i thought too.
[00:35] <gordonjcp> jhkier: never ever do that, unless you know exactly what you're doing
[00:35] <ChaoticanarchyX> its installing them i need to do
[00:35] <ampd> jhkier: why cant you edit files on your computer and push them to the remote machine fi thats where you want them
[00:35] <gordonjcp> jhkier: are you running Linux on your desktop?
[00:35] <jhkier> gordonjcp: no win7 on desktop.
[00:35] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, so we need the exact filenames of what was inside the archive.
[00:35] <ampd> gordonjcp: he wants to do php, it shouldn't even matter
[00:36] <gordonjcp> jhkier: oh, I've never used Windows
[00:36] <gordonjcp> jhkier: there's probably some way of editing files in Windows and uploading them to a server
[00:36] <ChaoticanarchyX> oh
[00:36] <jhkier> I run win7 desktop ubuntu 11 remote. want to edit some very basic php/css files on the machine...
[00:36] <gordonjcp> that's a pretty clunky way of working
[00:36] <ChaoticanarchyX> ok
[00:36] <gordonjcp> jhkier: well the *simplest* way but it has a bit of a learning curve would be to use something like putty to ssh into the machine, and use vim
[00:36] <jhkier> hahaha - i suppose.
[00:37] <ampd> jhkier: just edit them in windows and upload them to the server. Bluefish has a windows client if you need to do that
[00:37] <drobati> Anyone mind helping me with my bootloader problem. I don't know why grub is missing.
[00:37] <gordonjcp> jhkier: I run Linux and Mac OSX on my laptop, Linux on my desktop and all my servers
[00:37] <ampd> jhkier: or learn vim, it's pretty useful
[00:37] <gordonjcp> jhkier: so I can have my laptop or desktop running an exact clone of the server
[00:37] <drobati> Vim is great.
[00:37] <Jordan_U> drobati: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[00:37] <gordonjcp> jhkier: this means I do all my editing and testing locally, then use fabric to deploy to the server
[00:38] <drobati> Jordan_U: I do indeed.
[00:38] <jhkier> ampd: i think you're right about editing them on my machine and pushing up to the server.... I think my initial question was trying to align this..
[00:38] <gordonjcp> jhkier: even if you're just doing web dev as a hobby it makes sense to do it the "proper" way
[00:38] <drobati> I have one SSD (/dev/sda) and one HDD (/dev/sdb).
[00:38] <Jordan_U> drobati: Grub's boot sector was probably installed to a different drive than the one your BIOS is booting from.
[00:38] <jhkier> gordonjcp: agreed - do you have a full copy of the entire website?
[00:38] <ChaoticanarchyX> brightspark: the folders in side are: core, java, launch4j, lib, modes, tools, and then two text looking files named: processing and the revisions text
[00:38] <gordonjcp> jhkier: yes
[00:39] <drobati> My BIOS should be booting off the SSD. Which is my 'OS' drive.
[00:39] <jhkier> OK -
[00:39] <gordonjcp> jhkier: it's a little more complicated than that, because I have a server at home running kvm, which allows me to set up and destroy virtual machines really quickly
[00:39] <drobati> And that is where I thought I installed grub, but how can I check.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | drobati
[00:39] <brightspark> ChaoticanarchyX, the processing file has no extension- it's just "processing"?
[00:39] <|Anthony|> anyone here brave / competent enough to tackle a pulseaudio issue
[00:40] <Jordan_U> drobati: Boot info script can tell you, or you can just try telling the BIOS to boot from each drive explicitly.
[00:40] <jhkier> OK...
[00:40] <gordonjcp> jhkier: so what I do is I use a VM for my "webdev" server, and another VM for my "fake production" server
[00:40] <theplanet> LTS stands for "Long Term Support," meaning the Desktop Edition is supported for three years, and the Server Edition is supported for five years <<< so iinstalling server edition and equipping it with a desktop environment is a good idea
[00:40] <gordonjcp> jhkier: the "fake production" server is actually a clone of the image off my *real* VM, hosted somewhere in London
[00:40] <jhkier> gordonjcp: so how do you edit on the webdev server?
[00:40] <WeThePeople> how do i check the internet speed?
[00:40] <gordonjcp> jhkier: I don't
[00:40] <bazhang> theplanet, thats not right
[00:41] <zykotick9> theplanet: nope doesn't work that way.  the desktop-like package aren't supported for the extra time.
[00:41] <jhkier> gordonjcp: edit locally and push to webdev?
[00:41] <zykotick9> theplanet: fyi 12.04 is supported 5 years server AND desktop!
[00:41] <gordonjcp> jhkier: I edit locally, on my local machine with a test server running on that
[00:41] <UbuN00b> is there an ubuntu channel dedicated to install issues?
[00:41] <maicod> can I disable the docking of windows to the top bar and making them 'full screen' ?
[00:41] <blackshirt> wethepople,you can use speedtest.net
[00:41] <bazhang> theplanet, the current lts is 5 years both versions
[00:41] <gordonjcp> jhkier: oh, sorry, that was what you meant
[00:41] <theplanet> oh good
[00:41] <drobati> Jordan_U: I have no internet access though. I'll rtfm on bootloader but is there any cavet like needing internet?
[00:41] <gordonjcp> jhkier: yes, my laptop runs apache etc so I just test on that
[00:41] <theplanet> thanks guys
[00:42] <bazhang> UbuN00b, just ask the channel, all on one line
[00:42] <jhkier> gordonjcp: does anyone edit directly onto a webdev server insetady? i really like the idea of not having anything on my machine incase i drop it in the pool etc.
[00:42] <carter_> can anyone help me with a file transfer
[00:42] <gordonjcp> jhkier: only if they are suicidal
[00:42] <gordonjcp> jhkier: or really, really keen to change jobs in a hurry
[00:42] <jhkier> gordonjcp: understood :-p
[00:43] <gordonjcp> jhkier: that's a great way of blowing the backside out of your production site
[00:43] <Jordan_U> drobati: Well if you want to run boot info script you'll need to get the script to the machine somehow. It seems like it's probably worth explicitly booting from one drive, then the other (don't assume that you know for sure the current default, try both).
[00:43] <turbodr00l> so my wifi stops working after around 5 mins and i have to reconnect, wtf is going on
[00:43] <gordonjcp> jhkier: if you get in the habit of editing directly on the dev server then one day you'll make a mistake and edit on the live server
[00:43] <jhkier> gordonjcp: but couldn't you have just another remote machine for dev?
[00:43] <gordonjcp> jhkier: and that's the day you'll do something *stupid*
[00:43] <jhkier> gordonjcp: wouldn't be the first stupid mistake ive made
[00:43] <UbuN00b> Ok, so I found Ubuntu Ultimate gamer and gparted.iso.  I booted gparted.iso, deleted all the partitions and created a new one.  I only want Ubuntu on this machine to force myself to learn it.
[00:44] <UbuN00b> during the install process, it asks for language, then it makes sure i have enough space and connected to internet
[00:44] <jhkier> gordonjcp: so what editor do you use locall?
[00:44] <gordonjcp> jhkier: yeah, I've *never* accidentally blown away the production machine
[00:44] <gordonjcp> jhkier: gedit
[00:44] <bazhang> UbuN00b, what is ubuntu ultimate gamer
[00:44] <drobati> How do I go about setting which drive to boot off? I know the system is installed to /dev/sda3; windows is on /dev/sda2.
[00:44] <drobati> Jordan_U: ^
[00:44] <UbuN00b> then it asks where to install it, but there are no drives shown in the list to install from
[00:44] <maicod> when I move the top edge of a window to the topbar of ubuntu it docks. Is there a way to disable this ?
[00:44] <gordonjcp> right, nn all
[00:45] <UbuN00b> it doesn't even give me the option to erase entire disk and install
[00:45] <jhkier> gordonjcp: thanks mate
[00:45] <bazhang> UbuN00b, what is ubuntu ultimate gamer
[00:45] <ampd> jhkier: check pm
[00:45] <UbuN00b> it's 12.04 but i guess for gaming
[00:45] <gordonjcp> jhkier: also if you are doing actual web app stuff, look into web frameworks like CakePHP, Django etc
[00:45] <bazhang> UbuN00b, its not supported here
[00:45] <asus1025c> i have an atom n2800 netbook (GMA 3600 graphics)  and I am running X at 1280x768 24 bit color on my 32inch LCD TV which is attached to my netbook via hdmi. Can anyone tell me how can i change the resolution to 16 bit?
[00:46] <UbuN00b> ok, is 12.04 supported because i downloaded that one and same problem, as a matter of fact I have 10, 11, and 12 but all versions give me the same error during install
[00:46] <bazhang> !ultimate | UbuN00b
[00:46] <UbuN00b> it doesn't show ANY partitions to install it to, even after I used gparted.iso to make the partition
[00:48] <drobati> Jordan_U: I've just used a flash drive to transfer it over so hopefully this works.
[00:48] <rufsketch1> Hey everyone
[00:48] <UbuN00b> any ideas why during the third step in the install it doesn't show ANY partitions available?
[00:48] <rufsketch1> how do I install the latest nvidia driver from repos?
[00:48] <rufsketch1> I need 304.43
[00:48] <UbuN00b> even after I created the partition using gparted
[00:49] <rufsketch1> internet says the reason I'm getting issues with wine is because installing using provided nvidia script doesn't play well with 32-bit compatibility libraries
[00:49] <Jordan_U> drobati: That is going to depend on your particular BIOS. Do understand though that BIOSs don't have any concept of partitions, it's only the two drives which they see.
[00:49] <drobati> Yes I understand that.
[00:50] <drobati> Oh.
[00:50] <drobati> I follow, I'll try and boot off the HDD.
[00:50] <UbuN00b> I can only use the Ubuntu 12.04 live cd provided i hit the button when the keyboard icon is present, press f6 and choose nomodeset, only then can i get to the live desktop
[00:51] <rufsketch1> also, the 295 version from repos seems not to work at all with my card
[00:51] <UbuN00b> i try to install from the install ubuntu icon.  It asks me to select language, checks to make sure i have 4.5GiB space, connected to internet, download updates during install, install 3rd party programs and then i click next
[00:51] <drobati> When I installed the system I set /dev/sda3 to mount / and setup some linux-swap on the HDD along with 150 GB to /dev/sdb6
[00:51] <drobati> This flash drive doesn't seem to work
[00:51] <drobati> let me try booting off the HDD
[00:52] <UbuN00b> next screen wants to know what partition to install to and there are no partitions to choose from
[00:52] <drobati> oh and i mounted /dev/sdb6 to /home/drobati
[00:52] <drobati> er /home *
[00:52] <UbuN00b> if i press 'install now' i get the error "no root file is specified. please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[00:52] <UbuN00b> or something very similar
[00:53] <UbuN00b> but on the live cd when i run gparted it shows 1 partition that i created
[00:53] <Jordan_U> UbuN00b: Can you post a screenshot?
[00:53] <UbuN00b> how do i do that???
[00:53] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | UbuN00b
[00:53] <|Anthony|> UbuN00b, by chance is the hdd still mounted in the live disc? meaning you mounted it when fiddling with gparted, and it's still mounted
[00:53] <MrGizmo757> Hey is there a better alternative to DeVeDe  or Bonbono. they both give me the same issue.
[00:54] <drobati> Jordan_U: booting off HDD did not work either.
[00:54] <drobati> It booted to windows.
[00:54] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  and what issue is that?
[00:54] <UbuN00b> i have the pics on my facebook looking for help, let me grab them off of FB real quick
[00:54] <stercor> How do I fix this? "./.libs/libsqlite3.so: undefined reference to `dlopen'"
[00:55] <jrib> stercor: give context for what you are doing
[00:55] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me properly setup a system-wide instance?
[00:55] <stercor> jrib: Compiling sqlcipher.
[00:55] <Jordan_U> drobati: OK, so you've now tried explicity telling the BIOS to boot from the HD. Have you tried explicitly telling the BIOS to boot from SSD?
[00:55] <MrGizmo757> Dr-willis,  Videos that are more then the 1:30 mark give me errors. they wont fit on the disk.  compare that to the DVD maker in windows that automatically scales it down to fit. its annoying
[00:55] <drobati> Jordan_U: It does that by default.
[00:55] <drobati> Undoubtedly.
[00:56] <justus> hello, I got a very screwed up problem with adding an external monitor to my samsung nc10
[00:56] <drobati> Never-the-less, I will still give it a shot. Since bootup times with SSD's are seconds long.
[00:56] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  theres a button in devede to 'ressize/scale' the video down to the needed size of disk. at a loss of quailty of course.
[00:56] <Jordan_U> drobati: Please try it explicitly, if for nothing else than to make me happy :)
[00:56] <justus> the external display will only accept a turned orientation, either clock or counterclockwise
[00:56] <drobati> !
[00:56] <drobati> UEFI!!!!
[00:56] <justus> the display menu does not offer me any other options, suggestions?
[00:56] <drobati> NOT A BIOS
[00:56] <drobati> Dear lord.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  ive put several hours of video on a 4gb dvd with Devede. - but the quality was lacking. but it was cartoons for the kids. ;)
[00:57] <drobati> This menu clearly says at the top UEFI dualBIOS.
[00:57] <drobati> So which is it?
[00:57] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   oh i haden't noticed that.  Where is that option located?   Dose Bombono have it to or just DeVeDe?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> drobati: That means that your boot firmware can boot via either UEFI or BIOS.
[00:58] <justus> no one here with any knowledge that could help me with my display problem?
[00:58] <drobati> Hmm.
[00:58] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  big shiny button that says 'adjust disk ussage' ;)  see the screen shot here.. http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[00:58] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  its like the last button i click befor moving onto making the iso image.
[00:58] <Jordan_U> drobati: I need to leave, but I will be back in 30-45 minutes.
[00:58] <UbuN00b> ok, i have the .jpg pictures of the install steps plus the gparted.iso partition table, how do i show them in irc?  please forgive me for being new to all of this.
[00:58] <drobati> I'll keep at it.
[00:58] <drobati> Thanks for the help.
[00:58] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  devede is also a python script so its fairly easy to tweak to change various settings and defaults you may want to change.
[00:59] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | UbuN00b
[00:59] <drobati> Jordan_U: Additionally, I explicitly tried the SSD and it went into windows still.
[00:59] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  i for example always want things to 'auto play first item, and loop back to the first item' so i edited the script.  and i altered the default titles also.
[00:59] <UbuN00b> !screenshot | UbuN00b
[00:59] <tsimpson> !paste | UbuN00b, the 2nd link
[00:59] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis, i know that button. i didn't know that's what it did.   Thanx ill give it a try.  i am kind of a DeVeDe noob. :-)
[01:00] <justus> great, so no one?
[01:00] <Jordan_U> drobati: Ubuntu's installer probably installed grub for BIOS rather than grub for UEFI, and your boot firmware is currently configured to boot via UEFI (though it could all be the other way around).
[01:00] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  it adjust the disk ussage to match the size of the disk you selected...
[01:00] <UbuN00b> these aren't screenshots, just .jpg images
[01:01] <Jordan_U> UbuN00b: http://imagebin.org allows you to upload any type of image.
[01:01] <drobati> Jordan_U: I'll look into it further. I know that windows is using BIOS.
[01:01] <Jordan_U> drobati: How do you know that?
[01:01] <drobati> I ran some command in CMD, from a guide.
[01:02] <drobati> I can't remember it anymore
[01:02] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   yeah. i Assume it dose what the windows dvd maker dose automatically.  its just an option i have to choose in DeVeDe i guess.
[01:02] <jrib> stercor: then you should give specifics about how you are doing it ;)
[01:03] <drobati> Jordan_U: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/bootmode.html
[01:03] <drobati> bcdedit
[01:03] <UbuN00b> ok, here is a link to the partition table http://imagebin.org/229690
[01:03] <drobati> According to that it said BIOS based is .exe
[01:04] <UbuN00b> this is the next step in install process http://imagebin.org/229691
[01:04] <UbuN00b> here is the following step http://imagebin.org/229692
[01:04] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis.  i also have issues with Title Menus in DeVeDe.  i have to set it to skip the title screen and play automatically.  if i dont the DVD just get stuck at the title screen when i put it in my TV. do you know how to fix that?
[01:05] <UbuN00b> here is where my anger gets bad http://imagebin.org/229693
[01:05] <UbuN00b> http://imagebin.org/229693 this is where i want to take the disc out and play frisbee with my terrier
[01:06] <UbuN00b> even after i created the partition, it recognizes there is at least 4.5GB of free space available, but when i go to install it, it says nothing is there.  it doesn't make sense!
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  you select a title  and hit play with the dvd players remote?  ;)
[01:08] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  i tend to make them all auto play and loop forever - I mainly do cartoon dvds for the grandkids
[01:08] <UbuN00b> any ideas?
[01:08] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,  Yes.  it just freezes.  if i set i to play the first title by default its fine.
[01:10] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  test the iso file in vlc, or mplayer perhaps. See if it messes up there. Could be some odd quirk with the dvd player
[01:11] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   Maybe. My DVD player is kind of a peice of junk.
[01:12] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  got a new blueray player for the wife.. it can play videos off the Shared network drives. ;) no need to make disks much these days
[01:12] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis, dose the loop option make it automatically play when you insert it like the play first title option?  or do you have to manually push play  and then it loops afterwards?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  I think you enable both.
[01:13] <Dr_willis> and it plays, then loops.. forever and ever and ever...
[01:13] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis, it wont let me enable both. that's why i asked.
[01:13] <Dr_willis> beats listening to the  Menu "music" on normal dvd disks over and over when the kids fall asleep at night.
[01:14] <Dr_willis> I belive i set the menu to auto play the first title. and set each title to play the next title. then the last title. i set to play the first..  Thanx for the help.  :-)
[01:17] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me properly setup a system-wide instance?
[01:17] <perhapstired> +Hey guys, anyone here installed the bitcoin client from withyin the Ubuntu Software Center?
[01:17] <perhapstired> I have this virtualbox instance with ubuntu installed from ages ago and am wondering how to access the bitcoin client it claims to have had installed from the software center
[01:18] <zodiak> perhapstired, look in the menu or worst case, bring up a terminal and type bit<hit tab twice>
[01:18] <perhapstired> By menu, what part of the menu do you mean?
[01:19] <zodiak> dear gods.. how on earth am I supposed  to know THAT
[01:19] <zodiak> look at the entries
[01:19] <zodiak> I installed a program, once, a long time ago, no name, where is it ?
[01:20] <zodiak> it's ~probably~ in apps
[01:20] <perhapstired> By entries, do you mean the left sidebar that's scrollable
[01:20] <perhapstired> ok one sec ill look at apps
[01:21] <zodiak> and you want to run bitcoin you say ?
[01:22] <perhapstired> yes
[01:22] <perhapstired> can't find it though
[01:22] <perhapstired> In what folder is apps supposed to be in?
[01:22] <Dr_willis> MrGizmo757,  test the ISO files in VLC or mplayer.. no need to burn them
[01:22] <somsip> perhapstired: if you are not sure if it is installed, try this in terminal "dpkg --get-selections | grep bit"
[01:23] <perhapstired> software center claims its installed but ill try that. Also home folder has a folder tittled bitcoin 0.6.2 linux, but both the qt and bitcoind don't do anything when clicked
[01:25] <somsip> perhapstired: try running it in a terminal to see if you get errors
[01:26] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,  i will start with that.  but the real positive no doubts it works test will be in my DVD player.    Right now the only thing keeping me in Windows is Video and DVD creation.   i have learned how to use KdenLive  so if i get my dvd creation down like i want. then i can officialy say good bye to windows. :-)
[01:26] <ampd> perhapstired: did youmake them executable?
[01:27] <skraito> hi all
[01:27] <Hatori> hi skraito
[01:28] <perhapstired> sorry I'm stuck on trying to get somsip's recommendation to work. How do I get the vertical line from "dpkg --get-selections | grep bit" inside the command line ubuntu?
[01:28] <perhapstired> I can't seem to copy it from the browser to the command line...
[01:28] <somsip> perhapstired: depends on your keyboard. but try shift and the key below backspace
[01:28] <skraito> hanhua ahhh ure a tard
[01:28] <perhapstired> ampd, I'm not sure if I made it executable, how can I check that?
[01:29] <bazhang> !guidelines | skraito
[01:29] <MrGizmo757> Dr_willis,   80% of the software i use in windows started as GNU/Linux software anyways.  Gimp, Pidgin, ect.  and yeah. they all work better in their native Linux environment. so when i can get everything i do in windows to work for me in Linux then windows is gone. :-)  that's the plan anyways.
[01:29] <skraito> bah same same people destroying freenode again
[01:29] <skraito> want me to get ban in here ?
[01:29] <Pierreb> is there a way to completely remove the sound drivers+configs and then reinstall them?
[01:30] <perhapstired> Somsip, thanks but the key below backspace is enter, surely that can't be right no?
[01:30] <perhapstired> I can't believe I'm stuck on the issue of having to apply spintax inside an Ubuntu virtualbox
[01:30] <MrGizmo757> Ubuntu is just far less annoying to use. so if i can get all my stuff working like i want then that's  it jack. i'm there. LOL!
[01:30] <somsip> perhapstired: as I say, it depends on your keyboard layout. Mine is clearly different from yours
[01:30] <Pierreb> somehow i managed to ruin it so either i have to do that or reinstall but i prefer to not reinstall since ive configured the os a ton
[01:30] <perhapstired> I'm so used to accessing a server and right clicking to copy and paste that this is such an unpleasant surprise
[01:31] <perhapstired> Is there any other way I could go about this without inputting spintax into the CLI?
[01:31] <zodiak> server.. copy and paste...
[01:31] <somsip> perhapstired: reinstall them
[01:31] <zodiak> oh mercy.. thank the gods I wore my corset, otherwise my sides would have split from laughter
[01:32] <bazhang> !behelpful | zodiak
[01:32] <perhapstired> stop splattering me with such ironies
[01:32] <Pierreb> anyone know if there is some software around that works like the windows remote desktop but for linux?
[01:33] <somsip> Pierreb: what os do you want to connect from, and which os do you want to connect to?
[01:33] <Pierreb> i want to use the local login+pw and get full access+screen of the machine
[01:33] <jrib> !vnc | Pierreb
[01:33] <Pierreb> somsip: mac os x
[01:33] <perhapstired> Thanks somsip, but I was hoping to keep this install
[01:33] <Pierreb> to ubuntu
[01:33] <somsip> perhapstired: no - just reinstall the bitcoin stuff
[01:33] <somsip> Pierreb: is that from MacOS or to MacOS?
[01:34] <Pierreb> from mac os (there is a rdp client from office) to ubuntu
[01:34] <Pierreb> i prefer to use that one if its possible
[01:35] <somsip> Pierreb: does this help? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[01:35] <Pierreb> somsip: ill check that out
[01:36] <somsip> Pierreb: clearly its a Win based tutorial, but the principle should be similar
[01:36] <jrib> Pierreb: also see ubottu's link
[01:37] <somsip> jrib: does VNC server suport RDP connections?
[01:37] <Pierreb> somsip: it works thanks alot
[01:37] <somsip> Pierreb: np
[01:41] <grokse> hi, i'm having a bit of an issue with byobu.  when i type "exit", it ends my session instead of just closing byobu and taking me back to the normal prompt.  any ideas?  i've had something similar before, but i killed "screen" and that fixed it.  when i do it here, it does the aforementioned closing of my session
[01:42] <grokse> ah, if i sudo and THEN kill screen, it closes byobu without ending my session.  weird
[01:42] <somsip> grokse: don't you have to detach rather than closing the session? Shift-F6 according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu
[01:42] <grokse> thanks, i'll take a look
[01:43] <grokse> i'm sure a killall command isn't the preferred method
[01:43] <somsip> grokse: I'm more used to tmux here, but ^D kills the session, whereas ^B-D detaches, so I guess its a smiliar idea
[01:44] <grokse> hmm, shift-f6 just didn't do anything
[01:44] <grokse> thanks for the link though, i think it's helpful
[01:44] <somsip> grokse: ok - I don't think I can help more
[01:45] <grokse> thanks :)
[01:45] <grokse> i probably borked the keybinds myself
[01:58] <DLabz> hi, guys
[01:59] <WeThePeople> bi
[01:59] <WeThePeople> hi
[01:59] <DLabz> Lookig for a way to have my portable field boxes mantain persistant connections server in the office
[01:59] <Skapare> is there a way to avoid daemons auto-starting when doing an apt-get upgrade inside chroot?
[02:00] <zodiak> DLabz, you are going to have to give more than that
[02:00] <zodiak> what are you looking for solution wise ?
[02:01] <DLabz> zodiak: I have two requirements: 1. reconnect to wireless if connection drops
[02:01] <somsip> Skapare: one source, so you may want to find more evidence that this works - http://lifeonubuntu.com/how-to-prevent-server-daemons-from-starting-during-apt-get-install/
[02:01] <DLabz> if internet, reverse-ssh to home server
[02:02] <zodiak> DLabz, bleurgh .. openvpn instead of ssh :)
[02:02] <zodiak> DLabz, which will also take care of reconnection
[02:02] <DLabz> thanks zodia
[02:02] <DLabz> zodiak\
[02:02] <DLabz> damn
[02:02] <zodiak> all good :)
[02:03] <DLabz> oh, can a openVPN server work on windows machine?
[02:03] <zodiak> yup
[02:03] <DLabz> perfect
[02:03] <DLabz> thanks a bunch
[02:03] <zodiak> np
[02:05] <Ramtron> Hello!
[02:05] <zodiak> hey :)
[02:05] <Ramtron> How do we register nicks again?
[02:05] <somsip> !nickserv | Ramtron
[02:05] <somsip> ah
[02:05] <Ramtron> !nickserv | Ramtron
[02:06] <Ramtron> knows nothing about nickserv it says ;o
[02:06] <somsip> Ramtron: clearly. I forget the command. Oh well, worth a try
[02:07] <xangua> !register | Ramtron
[02:07] <somsip> xangua: thanks
[02:07] <Ramtron> !register | Ramtron
[02:11] <Skapare> somsip: is that "cat < /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d" command really correct on that page you gave?  the file does not exist
[02:11] <frybye> hi - in an attempt to get a d-link usb wlan stick to work under 12.04 I accidentally deleted my blacklist.conf - what can I do to get one (-made automatically or whatever?)
[02:11] <frybye> - and yeah - I had overlooked to make a backup first...
[02:11] <somsip> Skapare: that's why I suggested you second-source it. It's not on an official wiki or site I know, and only has one comment to say it works
[02:12] <Skapare> somsip: seems to be incorrectly coded for the apparently purpose of creating that file
[02:12] <zodiak> frybye, I suspect that there maybe one on the install/live cd/usb you used
[02:13] <Skapare> somsip: the cat is reading the file that does not exist
[02:13] <somsip> Skapare: just sudo vi then file then.
[02:13] <frybye> zodiak - months of updates since then.. does that matter...?
[02:13] <zodiak> well.. I don't know what else you also blacklisted :\
[02:13] <Skapare> somsip: I don't understand what needs to be done
[02:13] <frybye> zodiak how do I get this blacklist.conf out of the cd???
[02:13] <Skapare> somsip: is it supposed to create this file?
[02:14] <somsip> Skapare: create the file with the contents on the webpage using whatever method you know how to use. Or second-source a similar solution
[02:14] <frybye> zodiak: there was a whole load of stuff in the file...
[02:14] <Skapare> which contents?
[02:14] <Skapare> the part starting from #!/bin/sh ?
[02:14] <somsip> Skapare: between cat and EOF
[02:15] <Skapare> OK, so it is normal for this file to not exist ... I create it ... run the apt-get stuff ... remove it when done
[02:15] <Skapare> + the chmod
[02:16] <somsip> Skapare: it suggests that from the webpage, but I suggest you second-source conformation of this solution
[02:16] <zodiak> frybye, boot off of the cd/usb into a live session, look in the /etc of the live system, if you find one, then mount your hard drive, cp it across
[02:16] <Skapare> what do you mean by "second-source conformation" ?
[02:17] <frybye> zodiak: ok thanks for the info - have a good one...
[02:17] <somsip> Skapare: find another site that confirms that this is a solid solution
[02:17] <Skapare> OH, OK ... I'll google for that filename, then
[02:18] <somsip> Skapare: best to be safe if it's not clear what the repercussions may be
[02:18] <j-admin> Boo.
[02:19] <aniasis> I am having a problem
[02:19] <j-admin> ._.
[02:19] <plaxi5n355> hey folks, im on opensuse 12.1...Any remote desktop client you would recommend that would be cross platform (I have another pc running ubuntu and one Centos).
[02:20] <aniasis> when I make a call to reboot I get the following output... Usage: /etc/init.d/reboot start|stop
[02:20] <plaxi5n355> want to control the ubuntu and centos from my opnsuse laptop
[02:20] <tables_> how do i remove ssh from startup?
[02:21] <plaxi5n355> tables_, I think its somewhere in your /etc/init.d configuration...google it up for exact conf file
[02:21] <zodiak> plaxi5n355, vnc
[02:21] <Skapare> somsip ... looks like this is confirmation ... http://serverfault.com/questions/29544/how-do-i-stop-ubuntu-from-starting-daemons-ive-not-explicitly-asked-to-run
[02:21] <plaxi5n355> zodiak, thanks buddy...just realized im on ubuntu channel
[02:22] <zodiak> plaxi5n355, meh.. it's all the same when it comes to things like that ;)
[02:22] <Skapare> some OTHER suggestions people make involve causing daemons to not run at next boot up ... but I think this might work ... I'll add it to my script and see
[02:23] <tizzard> hello, i have recently upgraded my computer to ubuntu 12.04
[02:24] <tizzard> how do i go about changing the color theme of the system
[02:25] <plaxi5n355> zodiak, right...just couldn't find a lazy install on Yast :-)
[02:26] <somsip> Skapare: yep - a bit old, and it does explain the pitfalls
[02:26] <zodiak> platschi, it's probably under one of the million of splinter packages. tightvnc, xtightvnc, realvnc, ultravnc, etc etc
[02:27] <zodiak> I think there was like 20 at least countl http://ipinfo.info/html/vnc_remote_control.php
[02:28] <j-admin> so what os do you guys prefer?
[02:28] <somsip> !poll | j-admin
[02:28] <Stanley00> tizzard: please take a look at /usr/share/themes
[02:29] <tizzard> ahh thank you sir *salut*
[02:30] <j-admin> i'm not asking for the best one, just which ones you guys prefer. i haven't used all of them so i'm curious about their differences
[02:31] <DoctorTruth> I have an I-phone and can no longer use the I-Tunes on my laptop cause I got rid of windows and am using Ubuntu just like on my desktop but I want to know if there is a program that will work in transfering music to the Iphone 4S. Anyone know
[02:32] <ging> oh help me quick
[02:32] <ging> how do i stop apt unintalling everything?
[02:32] <zodiak> ging ctrl-c
[02:32] <ging> just removed python 2.7 by mistake
[02:32] <ging> won't stop
[02:32] <ging> ctrl c won't stop it
[02:32] <zodiak> ctrl-z to background it and then kill %+
[02:33] <zodiak> if that doesn't work (which would be shocking) you will have to open another terminal and ps auxfw | grep -i apt and then kill -15 the process-id
[02:34] <zodiak> j-admin, any of them, all of them, whatever
[02:34] <Nautilus> First time doing this.... after installing a clean 12.04 system (I had 10.04) I want to copy in my filezilla site listing.  I know theres a hidden folder in my home folder, but am unsure what to copy... just sitemanager.xml ?
[02:34] <zodiak> I am a pragmatist. I use whichever one gets the job done/work requires me to use
[02:34] <MrKeuner>  #android
[02:35] <ging> thanks zodiak
[02:35] <zodiak> ging np
[02:35] <ging> in the end i managed to get it will killall apt
[02:36] <ging> clearly didn't get it in time
[02:36] <ging> my desktop has just come apart
[02:38] <elky> ging, which desktop were you using?
[02:38] <j-admin> ouch
[02:38] <ging> i am hoping installing ubuntu-desktop will put everything back
[02:38] <ging> elky: unity
[02:38] <elky> yes, that should
[02:39] <ging> i had not expected removing python to start eating my desktop
[02:39] <ging> i was trying to run python 3
[02:39] <elky> It happens when much of your desktop is written in python ;)
[02:39] <elky> you can have multiple versions of python installed.
[02:39] <elky> you don't need to remove one first
[02:40] <ging> yeah i had 3 installed but i was trying to make idle run in python 3 and it wasn't so though i'll just uninstall the others
[02:40] <Skapare> somsip: running the script with that "thing" in a fresh instance now ... should see in a few minutes
[02:42] <grantgalitz> uh... Why are there 3 flood bots?
[02:43] <eamon> so that if one of them starts flooding the other can kick it out
[02:43] <grantgalitz> uh
[02:43]  * grantgalitz grabs popcorn and waits for the race condition specified here.
[02:44] <Skapare> grantgalitz: it's like a field goal in football ... it takes 3
[02:44] <Skapare> US footbal that is
[02:45] <Relondo> I installed Mint alongside Ubuntu and Windows 7, and the installation completed successfully, I can see the new partition and everything, but I can't boot to Mint from the GRUB. Help?
[02:46] <IdleOne> !mint
[02:46] <Relondo> IdleOne: This is not a Mint question; this is a general linux question. The problem, would, I'm sure, be the same with any other distro, an ubuntu derivative, or another version of Ubuntu entirely.
[02:47] <IdleOne> Relondo: This is clearly a mint question but lets assume you are right and it is a general linux question you can try ##linux. This channel is for Ubuntu support. Thank you.
[02:47] <eamon> Relondo ask in #grub
[02:47] <Relondo> eamon: Thank you.
[02:48] <MadEchidna> hi, can someone explain to me what the "legacy" AMD driver is and where I get it?
[02:49] <MadEchidna> been googling and googling and all I see is vague references to it
[02:49] <jagginess> MadEchidna, legacy means for old hardware that arent supported anymore by amd..
[02:49] <MadEchidna> well I tried to install the latest catalyst and it seems that mine is now considered "old"
[02:49] <MadEchidna> even though it worked in the last one
[02:49] <MadEchidna> os[Linux 3.5.0-15-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       Q 740  @ 1.73GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 933MHz] mem[Physical: 5.8GB, 76.4% free] disk[Total: 189.4GB, 90.7% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic]
[02:49] <FloodBot1> MadEchidna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <jagginess> MadEchidna, then check amd's README
[02:49] <MadEchidna> that was one line >_>
[02:50] <MadEchidna> I did it doesn't make any mention of which cards are and are not supported
[02:50] <jagginess> MadEchidna, well it does..
[02:50] <MadEchidna> where is the readme then? all I got was a PDF manual that did not
[02:52] <const_antine_> I've been told that du doesn't count hidden files/directories size toward their parent directory size, yet in practice it seems du still does it
[02:52] <MadEchidna> see for yourself jagginess, there is no list of supported cards here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/embedded/Pages/embedded_linux.aspx
[02:52] <jagginess> const_antine_, well read the manual.. because it always did and always will
[02:52] <MadEchidna> release notes links to the PDF I already read
[02:52] <rypervenche> -/away -all sleep
[02:53] <rypervenche> derp
[02:53] <jagginess> MadEchidna, embedded linux. You've got to be kidding me. Do you know what embedded linux is?
[02:53] <const_antine_> jagginess, i have, there isn't anything about hidden files in there
[02:53] <MadEchidna> >_>
[02:55] <const_antine_> furthermore i tried du --exclude='^\..*' that should've excluded all hidden files or at least some of them. output was identical to command w/o that key
[02:57] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar enough with pulseaudio to help me get it working in a multiseat setup?
[02:57] <eamon> what are seats?
[02:58] <sunnycorner> hi guys
[02:58] <tables_> how do i remoev a program from startup, using update-rc.d?   i need update-rc.d syntax
[02:58] <eamon> hi sunnycorner
[02:58] <sunnycorner> hi eamon
[02:58] <sunnycorner> its my first time here
[02:59] <Skapare> somsip: it worked !! ... I do suggest if people ask for this in the future, give them the serverfault link instead ... it doesn't have the command typos
[02:59] <|Anthony|> eamon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[02:59] <sunnycorner> i feel like eddie murphy wakes up in queens
[02:59] <eamon> welcome to #ubuntu (and IRC?) sunnycorner
[02:59] <somsip> Skapare: I just googled it for you. I don't know this stuff
[02:59] <eamon> :)
[02:59] <lcabreza> i have problems on pidgin-sipe
[03:00] <sunnycorner> got a question abt setting up pptpd on ubuntu
[03:00] <lcabreza> how do i make it permanent on export NSS_SSL_CBC_RANDOM_IV=0
[03:00] <const_antine_> nvm, du pattern isn't a reg.exp.
[03:00] <const_antine_> d'oh
[03:00] <sunnycorner> wondering if anyone could shed some light
[03:00] <somsip> tables_: something like "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove"
[03:00] <tables_> thx
[03:02] <zykotick9> tables_: using update-rc.d doesn't make much sense on ubuntu...
[03:02] <eamon> |Anthony| so each user has their own mouse cursor. Can they use the same screen? If so can one user close another's window?
[03:03] <sunnycorner> anyone could maybe point some direction for me
[03:03] <sunnycorner> much appreciated
[03:03] <eamon> sunnycorner state your problem and we'll be able to tell you if we can help or not
[03:03] <viewer> i got a usb wireless card to plug into my laptop since my  laptops wireless disconnects every 2 mintues, and it "erased" wlan0 before I even tried to install a driver or anything for the new one, and the make failed on the new wifi's drivers, is there any way to get my old card back?
[03:03] <sunnycorner> cooool
[03:03] <sunnycorner> hi eamon
[03:03] <sunnycorner> so
[03:04] <bazhang> !enter | sunnycorner
[03:04] <sunnycorner> i have a ubuntu 10.04 setup as vm on a xserver box
[03:04] <sunnycorner> sorry first time here, got it!
[03:06] <j-admin> ._.
[03:06] <sunnycorner> so i have this ubuntu10.04 setup on xserve box as a vm, i installed pptpd followed all the online instructions, made sure i have tcp 1723 and gre open to the box, but when i tried using iphone to pptp to the box, the syslog always show i stuck at the step of "GRE: Bad checksum from pppd"
[03:08] <sunnycorner> i posted a new thread in ubuntuforum but havent had much luck getting any responses, i did checked almost everything, pptpd options setup, ip forwarding etc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062333
[03:08] <Skapare> somsip: well you had the right thought to google ... I didn't when I did it (came up with unrelated stuff)
[03:09] <Skapare> somsip: once I had the info you found, googling that got more
[03:11] <SystemCrashOverR> Hey, anyone up for helping a newbie sort out some basic troubleshooting?
[03:12] <goddard> thats what this chanel is for
[03:13] <SystemCrashOverR> Perfect
[03:13] <WeThePeople> hi
[03:13] <SystemCrashOverR> So I'm running the latest Ubuntu, 64 bit. And running into issues all over the place
[03:14] <somsip> Skapare: yeah - all good
[03:14] <SystemCrashOverR> Trying to import music intro Rhythm box and then export to an Ipod, but whenever I drag and drop to the Ipod, nothing happens
[03:16] <SystemCrashOverR> Any suggestions?
[03:17] <roasted> hello!
[03:17] <SystemCrashOverR> Hey roasted
[03:17] <SystemCrashOverR> What's up?
[03:17] <roasted> In order to effectively DD a drive, does said drive have to be mounted? I was hoping to DD this Mac OSX hard drive to salvage the install (HDD is going bad) but I got to wondering, if it has to be mounted and read by the OS.... maybe that won't help me....
[03:18] <xangua> SystemCrashOverR: what ubuntu versión¿ what iOS version¿
[03:18] <SystemCrashOverR> Latest. it's 12.04 right?
[03:19] <viewer> i'm trying to compile my wireless driver from source I downloaded, but i'm getting errors during the make.  Is it common to have go download some super old kernel version in order for it to match some drivers a few years old?
[03:19] <SystemCrashOverR> Also just wiped the iPod and reinstalled the IOS and iTunes, so they should both be the lastest as well
[03:21] <bradleyayers> hi
[03:21] <xangua> SystemCrashOverR: well 12.04 doesn't support iOS6, it supports iO5 but not sure about 5.1
[03:22] <SystemCrashOverR> Ah, maybe that's why
[03:22] <bradleyayers> what's the best way to determine which package provides an executable
[03:22] <bradleyayers> such that i can install it
[03:23] <SystemCrashOverR> xangua: I tried installing gtkpod to help, but to no available
[03:24] <xangua> SystemCrashOverR: more specific, the libimovile device shipped in ubuntu 12.04 only supports until iOS 5, gktpod, rhythmbox, banshee, all use libimovildevice
[03:24] <WeThePeople> i got shoutcast on my rhythmbox :)
[03:26] <scarrs> before I do a complete re-install (I broke my ubuntu) has anyone had a successful vmware workstation 9 install run smoothly on ubuntu 12.04.1?
[03:26] <|Anthony|> WeThePeople, i use guayadeque. it does that too and i've found it to be a bit lighter on sys resources.
[03:26] <|Anthony|> i'll bbiab though
[03:27] <|Anthony|> that is in the repos too fyi
[03:27] <eamon> sunnycorner maybe you might have some luck asking in #xorg
[03:27] <usr13> viewer: What does lspci |grep ireless  #say?
[03:27] <grantg> ಠ_ಠ
[03:27] <WeThePeople> bbiab ??
[03:28] <eamon> be baack in a breathtakingly_short_time
[03:29] <eamon> WeThePeople ^
[03:29] <usr13> viewer: lspci |grep ireless   #Tell us what it says.
[03:29] <WeThePeople> thanks
[03:29] <sunnycorner> ok thanks eamon
[03:31] <eamon> sunnycorner: Eric, type /j #xorg to join #xorg
[03:36] <aniasis> I'm trying to initialize a set of environment variable on all users.  I added a bash script to /etc/profile.d/ but it isn't firing on all users
[03:37] <WACOMalt> Hi there, what user should my folders be set to if they are for FTP access?
[03:37] <WACOMalt> currently they are www-data, but they cannot be written to via ftp
[03:40] <tarcisio> hello, can someone help me with an especific makefile I'm having trouble?
[03:42] <minetruly> Hi there! I'm new, so please let me know if I make any mistakes.
[03:42] <mtelesha> minetruly: we all make mistakes so yeah you did :)
[03:43] <minetruly> mtelsha: thanks :)
[03:43] <minetruly> I'm trying to create a bootable USB stick with 12.04. I successfully moved the USB option to the top in BIOS, but I get the error message "Invalid or damaged Bootable partition."
[03:44] <WACOMalt> Can anyone tell me how to list all users on my system in terminal?
[03:44] <WACOMalt> and all groups
[03:44] <minetruly> I tried reformatting the USB drive to FAT and NTFS. I downloaded UNetBootin, which asked me to reformat to FAT32, which I did, but UNetBootin is failing to recognize the USB drive.
[03:44] <jhkier> hi guys - i'm hoping someone has a bit of apache undestanding and can give me a quick bit of advise...
[03:44] <minetruly> It suddenly strikes me I should try a different USB drive.
[03:45] <WACOMalt> dont use UNetBootin
[03:45] <minetruly> What should I use?
[03:45] <WACOMalt> its broken from all of my tests anyways
[03:45] <jhkier> hello - hoping someing can help me understand the difference between "Document Root" and "directory"... if i leave one blank my site still resolves...
[03:45] <seth69> Hello, how can i upload files and create folder with a user in vsftpd?
[03:45] <WACOMalt> theres one from pendrivelinux that is good
[03:45] <minetruly> pendrivelinux ? I'll try that.
[03:45] <jhkier> yes pendrivelinux is great
[03:46] <mtelesha> minetruly: I would look at the drive in sudo fdisk -l and see what it says
[03:46] <WACOMalt> theres a fork of unetbootin that I like even better, but pendrive should be good. I cant think of the name of the other one right now
[03:46] <minetruly> mtelesha: I'm currently running Windows 7.
[03:46] <minetruly> This is my first time installing Linux.
[03:47] <mtelesha> minetruly: Oh then what are you trying to get as an end result with the pendrive?
[03:47] <jhkier> minetruly: install is easy.. using is a bit of learning curve..
[03:47] <jhkier> mtelesha; i get it... its like a personal pc in your pocket.
[03:47] <minetruly> I want to try Ubuntu before I reformat my entire hard drive.
[03:48] <minetruly> (I'm fed up with Windows and willing to learn all sorts of things to use Linux.)
[03:49] <mtelesha> OK I would then use the wubi install it keep everything in the widnows drive and then you can simply delete it
[03:49] <minetruly> Do you still rec pendrivelinux?
[03:49] <mtelesha> minetruly: In windows defrag the drive then give wubi some space At least 30 gig and then try it out that way
[03:50] <minetruly> "wubi"?
[03:50] <jhkier> do any of you guys have experience (basic) with apache... i'm just curious about the format of sites enabled files.
[03:50] <mtelesha> no just download ubuntu .iso and then mount the iso in windows with whatever iso client you want
[03:50] <minetruly> OK, downloading Wubi
[03:51] <minetruly> I don't have to erase any of what's already on my PC's boot drive, do I?
[03:52] <mtelesha> minetruly: nope not at all. Or you could just get the .iso and virtualize it with openbox to give it a spin
[03:52] <minetruly> I like the hard drive solution. Part of what I'm testing is its speed.
[03:52] <jhkier> minetruly: if you've never done linux before, easist I have found is http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[03:52] <mtelesha> I personally tell anyone going Linux to dual boot. I have found windows to come in hand manytimes for different things.
[03:52] <codepython777> how do i run a find command to find all .txt files and then copy all of them into a /tmp/txt folder?
[03:52] <minetruly> Thank you jhkier
[03:53] <jhkier> very simple windows program that creates it for you and ads a persistant
[03:53] <jagginess> use vmware/virtualbox.. it's the best way to go.. all it needs is an .iso
[03:53] <minetruly> Oh yes, when I install it for good I'll keep the ability to dual boot.
[03:53] <Nosophorus> does this channel answer questions about MATE?
[03:53] <minetruly> I just thought you had to reformat the hard drive to do that.
[03:53] <mtelesha> codepython777: find ~/ -name *.txt
[03:53] <mtelesha> then just pipe it into cp
[03:53] <jagginess> Nosophorus, not sure, but i know there's a command called MAN! :)
[03:54] <jnm> Hello, I think that ubuntu should have gparted preinstalled.
[03:54] <minetruly> jhkier, what's up with these sites?
[03:54] <codepython777> mtelesha: i want the files to have the same name in /tmp/txt directory
[03:54] <jagginess> minetruly, if you want to jump on the wagon, BACKUP YOUR DATA. then try to use gparted live cd (not sure if the latest ubuntu installer can resize ntfs)
[03:55] <jhkier> mintetruly: you were trying to get linux on usb? this thing will basically created bootable for you one touch button.
[03:55] <mtelesha> jagginess: ntfs is not a problem but wubi is great and I would just use that
[03:56] <Smackbook> can someone explain to me the concept of "blacklisting drivers"
[03:56] <jagginess> mtelesha, wubi you say? pff.. that install a loopback file on top of ntfs. (see wikipedia)
[03:56] <minetruly> OK, trying LiLi, and will also see how wubi works once my disk's done defragging
[03:57] <jhkier> anyone konw much about apache?
[03:57] <Guest19150> hey guys. i was trying to enable sharing on a folder for the first time, so ubuntu was going through the motions installing samba. all of a sudden something mentioning "pam" wanted to be installed, and i accidentally clicked cancel
[03:57] <Smackbook> i just found a source code for a driver that will compile, but at the end of the instructions it says to "blacklist the old driver" what could happen if I skip this step?
[03:57] <jagginess> yeah.. wubi is great.. but only for checking out ubuntu imho.. I wouldnt use it as a permanent linux..
[03:57] <Guest19150> was this a bad idea? how on earth do i fix this? what package was it?
[03:57] <mtelesha> jagginess: well personally I just use 2 drives but I have done several wubi installs and they work fine
[03:58] <scarrs> jhkier: what do you wanna know?
[03:58] <jagginess> mtelesha, I don't know if multiple wubi's can be installed. but they're all "loopback" files on ntfs.
[03:58] <Gnea> !apache | jhkier
[03:58] <mtelesha> Will123: Just do the install pam
[03:58] <mtelesha> Will123: sudo -apt-get install pam
[03:58] <jhkier> scarrs: well im trying to understand what the sites enabled files mean..
[03:59] <Will123> mtelesha: thanks, i'll give that a go :)
[03:59] <minetruly> OMG, LinuxLive is awesome. It automatically displayed all the ISO's on my computer!
[03:59] <jhkier> scarrs: ie what is the 'document root' and what is...directory...
[03:59] <Will123> mtelesha: pam's not a package, unfortunately
[03:59] <Will123> so that's a non starter
[03:59] <jhkier> i've left out directory before and still seems to work fine.. but all docs say repeat /var/www etc.
[04:00] <mtelesha> minetruly: Also backup should be a daily thing. But make sure you have it done
[04:00] <scarrs> jhkier: documentroot is the actual dir where the pages will be served...
[04:00] <jhkier> i started to guess that given it won't work without.
[04:00] <jhkier> What about directory?
[04:00] <Will123> mtelesha: new plan-  purge samba and start over
[04:00] <scarrs> not sure about that one :)
[04:01] <mtelesha> Will123: you don't have to do that
[04:01] <minetruly> Shoot, I don't have regular backup set up.
[04:01] <jhkier> gnea: why !Apache
[04:01] <minetruly> Just booting from USB can't be much of a risk?
[04:01] <rgenito> *sigh*, unfortunately... my connecting and disconnecting continues with this wireless driver on ubuntu 12 ;(
[04:01] <Will123> mtelesha: what would be a better solution?
[04:01] <mtelesha> Will123: but you can if you want I guess
[04:01]  * rgenito should report a bug to ubuntu...
[04:01] <Will123> mtelesha: looks like it wanted to install libpam-smbpass
[04:02] <Will123> that was the special package
[04:02] <jhkier> scarrs: its odd... like everyone seems to follow the rule of repeating their document root in the directory section... but i don't really get it.
[04:02] <scarrs> jhkier: altho I have been using apache for 10+ years
[04:02] <mtelesha> Will123: you can always just do the apt-get install saba-client and it will reinstall
[04:02] <scarrs> jhkier: I would just leave it blank
[04:03] <Will123> mtelesha: i'll try that next time i accidentally click the wrong button :p
[04:03] <Will123> thanks :)
[04:03] <Will123> it wants me to restart my session - thanks again! bye
[04:03] <mtelesha> Will123: personally I would use the commandline and apt-get for installing things. Much better output of what's going on
[04:04] <jhkier> scarrs: well i have noticed that nothing seems to break  - no mater what you put in there. but its a small file, so ifugred everything in sites-enabled would be important
[04:04] <mtelesha> minetruly: well I use crashplan (It works for windows and linux for backupos)
[04:04] <minetruly> crashplan, you say?
[04:05] <scarrs> jhkier: you're on the right track bro ;)
[04:05] <scarrs> (ain't apache fun)
[04:05] <mtelesha> minetruly: yeah its unlimited and cost $5 or free for a year if you switch from carbonite :)
[04:05] <jhkier> i kind of figured it would be much more sophisticated... or perhaps I'm just an idoit.
[04:05] <mtelesha> minetruly: I have a home server and I just put all my files on the server then they are also backed up to crashplan
[04:06]  * jhkier certainly can't spell or type today
[04:06] <scarrs> jhkier:  nah, simple as pie :)
[04:06] <minetruly> That sounds like a good option. I guess while I'm fiddling with Linux, it's time also to set up a daily backup.
[04:06] <scarrs> just leave your config files alone unless you're using a differnt dir to serve from
[04:07] <scarrs> jhkier: and then you only have to change "documentroot" and serverroot
[04:09] <MACscr> whats the lightest weight desktop environment for ubuntu? I literally just need to be able to run a browser and terminal in it for monitoring a few things. Other than that, the system is a file server
[04:09] <MACscr> well, file and media server
[04:10] <scarrs> MACscr: try fluxbox
[04:10] <minetruly> Crashplan doesn't look free.
[04:10] <codepython777> is there a way to chat locally with a  user on a ubuntu box? like talk localuser? (I could use wall to send messages)
[04:10] <jhkier> that is kind of my intent... i was just curious given when i first created the file sites-enabled/mysite it changed the documentroot and was weirded out that directory was still pointing elsewhere.
[04:10] <shantorn> crashplan is free for local non cloud backup
[04:11] <MsTeshi> Hi
[04:11] <thomi> Does anyone know how I can tell apt-get to install the latest version of package X from the main archive if I have a newer version of the same package installed locally?
[04:12] <minetruly> shantorn, thanks!
[04:13] <shantorn> i use it every day, i back up from box a to box b's storage drive, been doing it for a bout a year
[04:13] <shantorn> minetruly, you can op to pay for cloud storage but meh
[04:14] <KTG5150> Hey I just need a quick answer
[04:15] <flyinprogramer> ok, trying to do a proof-of-concept dhcp/dns server project, where i have a box with two network interfaces, eth0 [internet facing] eth1 [private facing], i have it setup, and it works, providing
[04:15] <s0nee> i'm trying to install the nvidia driver downloaded from the nvidia page, but it requires nouveau to be disabled. How do i do that?
[04:15] <fut> Im using Ubuntu 8.04 due to hardware restrictions. Don't care to hear about how 2d is better and handles B.S., etc.. wondering why 8.04 can't handle torrent files?
[04:15] <flyinprogramer> cable modem :: router :: server :: my machine
[04:15] <flyinprogramer> but as soon as i get rid of the router, my machine doesn't get internet
[04:15] <fut> Anyone know how I can add the capability into firefox (older version due to old OS)?
[04:16] <flyinprogramer> any idea why ?
[04:16] <minetruly> OK, so the software won't stop working after 30 days, it'll just stop cloud access.
[04:16] <KTG5150> I know to use a custom DNA server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address?
[04:16] <flyinprogramer> because the server still has the internets
[04:17] <KTG5150> I know to use a custom DNA server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address?
[04:18] <KTG5150> I know to use a custom DNS server you go to /etc../tails, but what do I put before the server address? Just "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[04:19] <s0nee> KTG5150: isn't it /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:19] <rgenito> usually that's what i put
[04:19] <rgenito> and s0nee is right on the file
[04:19] <KTG5150> s0nee: No the system overwrites it if it is placed there
[04:19] <KTG5150> Anyway
[04:20] <KTG5150> I just want to know what to put be4 the server address?
[04:20] <mtelesha> minetruly: No its $5 a month, but it saves you if you have a fire or theft
[04:20] <s0nee> KTG5150: nameserver <ip>
[04:20] <KTG5150> KK ty
[04:22] <cowsquad> ? is there any way to edit the list of booting options on the start window in ubuntu?
[04:22] <KTG5150>  Im havin so much trouble trying to set up pptpd I might just go back to 11.04
[04:22] <KTG5150> :/
[04:22] <cowsquad> like i have dev/sda6 twice in normal mode and recovery
[04:22] <jagginess> cowsquad, ?
[04:23] <cowsquad> jagginess like when you start ubuntu, it gives the list of OS that you have installed in your Pc. Is there any way to edit those
[04:23] <segv> Anyone have a macbook/macbook pro and a thunderbolt display working with 12.xx
[04:23] <Jordan_U> cowsquad: Are you asking how to get rid of the recovery mode entry?
[04:24] <s0nee> cowsquad: edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:24] <jagginess> cowsquad, update-grub2<enter> updates the grub.cfg file--
[04:24] <Jordan_U> s0nee: cowsquad: Edits to /boot/grub/grub.cfg will be lost whenever there is a kernel upgrade.
[04:24] <jagginess> segv, no that's a wip.. for the #kernel hackers..
[04:25] <cowsquad> thank you guys
[04:25] <segv> okay cool so its just display port for now?
[04:25] <segv> stupid thunderbolt displays
[04:25] <segv> bah
[04:25] <jagginess> segv, i've read of limitted success. it's not prime time ready.. it's trial and error
[04:25] <segv> ah, i've heard
[04:25] <segv> if its plugged in when you boot, it works
[04:25] <segv> if it's not, you're effed
[04:26] <jagginess> segv, well ask on a mailinglist.. it's not primetime dude. (otherwise i would of say so! :)
[04:26] <segv> I figured it wasn't primetime, wasn't expecting that lol
[04:26] <segv> If it works shittily i'll be happy
[04:26] <akis> any idea why at xubuntu 'elementary xfce dark' cannot give an icon to *.ods files?
[04:27] <jagginess> it's a kernel project.. so not a ubuntu one.. it has nothing to do with a linux distro
[04:27] <s0nee> Jordan_U: TY for the info
[04:27] <Jordan_U> s0nee: You're welcome.
[04:28] <cowsquad> another question. Is this chat only for question regarding ubuntu 12.04 or any version
[04:28] <jordanm> Jordan_U: we need to stay in serperate channels :P
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Jordan_U: But it's not confusing at all!
[04:29] <jagginess> ^ i think he meant the little 'j'ordan lol
[04:29] <s0nee> lol youre talking to yourself
[04:29] <KTG5150> Loooo
[04:29] <KTG5150> Loooool*
[04:29] <KTG5150> So anyway
[04:30] <KTG5150> Will some1 be willing to help me troubleshoot my pptpd issues tommorrow about this time?
[04:30] <jagginess> cowsquad, there's too many variants i guess why it's best to say only "ubuntu" (not xubuntu/kubuntu, etc..) but alot of people still use <12.04 ubuntu
[04:31] <jordanm> Jordan_U: that was over everyone's head
[04:31] <jagginess> cowsquad, so if you use xubuntu, it would be best to ask on #xubuntu :/
[04:32] <rabbi1> ibus not showing input method languages newly installed .... how to solve this ? :(
[04:32] <KTG5150> Lol I got it, I just chose not to respond
[04:33] <linocisco> who is using glpi on ubuntu server?
[04:36] <MACscr> i just installed lxde. How can i have it automatically load it it without restarting the pc? I dont think synergy works at the login prompt, so i cant just login/logout unless i can somehow bypass the actual login screen =P
[04:36] <MACscr> suggestions?
[04:37] <teddote> who is all available that uses e17? my bar flashes as if it is restarting each time. when i try to add an icon to the quick launch next to another
[04:41] <|Nordom|> I installed android SDK, its located in /usr/bin/android-sdk  <----- but when I try to access via terminal I cannot. CD /usr/bin doesnt work same with ~/android-sdk ... I am not sure what I am should be doing please help!
[04:42] <jordanm> |Nordom|: shell commands are case sensitive. /usr/bin is an odd place to put a directory
[04:43] <|Nordom|> thats where apt-get install sent it =/
[04:43] <|Nordom|> I found the files via file manager too so I know its there
[04:43] <jordanm> |Nordom|: how did you determine that?
[04:43] <jordanm> |Nordom|: dpkg -L <package you installed>
[04:45] <teddote> wut this haCker paradise in and out in and out no one talks
[04:45] <teddote> lol
[04:45] <|Nordom|> jordan: here is my output http://pastie.org/4795474http://pastie.org/4795474
[04:45] <|Nordom|> http://pastie.org/4795474*
[04:45] <|Nordom|> gah without the *
[04:45] <teddote> who is all available that uses e17? my bar flashes as if it is restarting each time. when i try to add an icon to the quick launch next to another
[04:46] <jordanm> |Nordom|: Error 503 Service Unavailable - pick a different pastebin site
[04:48] <aniasis> has anyone installed oracle on Maverick
[04:49] <jordanm> 11g?
[04:49] <malkauns__> in byobu how do i change the escape key from ctr+a to something else, the config doesn't seem to save my change
[04:50] <john_doe_jr> How do I use the cut command to get a substring of a file name?
[04:50] <minetruly> Thank you everyone who helped me! I'm now running Ubuntu from a USB drive. (I'll try wubi after I've set up crashplan.) It's very fast. It scares me.
[04:51] <rgenito> minetruly, :)
[04:51] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: you don't use cut. show your example input and expected output
[04:51] <aniasis> jordan11g XE
[04:51] <somsip> minetruly: if you enjoy ubuntu, I'd suggest skipping wubi and going straight to a dual boot. Wubi is good for a try out, but may not add anything to your experience theat the USB already has
[04:51] <aniasis> jordan 11g XE
[04:51] <blast_hardcheese> john_doe_jr: What's the pattern of the filename?
[04:51] <blast_hardcheese> john_doe_jr: There's probably a better way to do that
[04:51] <jordanm> especially if the shell is bash
[04:51] <minetruly> somsip, thank you, noted.
[04:52] <minetruly> Do you recommend a program for doing dual boot?
[04:52] <jordanm> grub?
[04:52] <Nordom> jordan: sorry d/ced http://pastie.org/4795496
[04:52] <jordanm> or you mean virtualization, like vbox?
[04:53] <somsip> minetruly: if you have a spare drive, just install and use it. If you need to re-partition, it can be a little more complex
[04:53] <jordanm> Nordom: that link doesn't work for me
[04:53] <jordanm> Nordom: it doesn't work for pagewash either: http://www.pagewash.com//nph-index.cgi/010110A/uggc:/=2fcnfgvr.bet/4795496
[04:53] <minetruly> It's on a laptop... I will research before repartitioning, but if you have a recommendation, I'll consider it.
[04:53] <john_doe_jr> phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump….I need just the 'phase3-backup-20120921010002' out of it
[04:54] <somsip> minetruly: it's long time since I dual-booted. And a long long time snce it was on a  laptop. Best to get some more up to date advice
[04:54] <mtelesha> minetruly: minetruly If you are doing one drive use http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/ and make 3 partitions for Linux after you shrink your windows partition then linux partitions / root /home /boot
[04:55] <s0nee> /lib/modules/<kernel-ver>/build is missing. Which folder in /usr/src should I make a link to build ? linux-headers ? linux-source ?
[04:55] <minetruly> somsip: OK. That's a few days in the future, anyway.  Thanks!
[04:55] <somsip> minetruly: np
[04:55] <mtelesha> minetruly: then you install ubuntu to the three or you can make just two partitions of windows and then have ubuntu use the rest of the drive nad it makes one partition I believe
[04:55] <minetruly> mtelesha, I was hoping to thank you for all your advice earlier! Thank you!
[04:56] <mtelesha> minetruly: no problem almost all of us started at where yoy are
[04:56] <Nordom> jordanm: http://pastebin.com/Mj58j4My
[04:56] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know have an answer?
[04:56] <minetruly> :)
[04:57] <mtelesha> minetruly: but I would go with wubi or partedmagic and make 2 partitons shrink your windows one and give yourself 30+ gigs for linux and then just have ubuntu install into that 2nd partition
[04:57] <jordanm> Nordom: well... that's such a poor packaging job, its not even usable after installation. a) remove the package b) follow the upstream documentation using .tgz provided
[04:57] <mtelesha> john_doe_jr: might want to ask #bash
[04:57] <minetruly> Thanks again for all the help. I need to get to sleep; I'll pursue these other great suggestions tomorrow. This has been a great introduction to this friendly, knowledgable community!
[04:57] <john_doe_jr> k
[04:57] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: try 'basename'
[04:57] <Nordom> jordan
[04:58] <Nordom> how do I do that
[04:58] <mtelesha> minetruly: well everyone isn't so friendly :)
[04:58] <minetruly> mtelesha: .....thank you for the warning.
[04:59] <minetruly> I'll make sure to remember you fine folk!
[04:59] <jordanm> Nordom: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html
[04:59] <Jordan_U> minetruly: I think that the advice that you've been given on partitioning is entirely too complicated. I would just run Ubuntu's installer, which will walk you through partitioning (doing almost all of the work for you, and doing it right).
[04:59] <jordanm> Nordom: any further support should go to a android specific channel, as it will be venturing off topic for #ubuntu
[04:59] <MACscr> so my pc seems to be starting light-dm and gnome dm on boot and im running lxde. I should need the other two should i?
[05:00] <minetruly> I noticed Ubuntu had that.
[05:00] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: 'basename aa.dump .dump' gives me aa. maybe thats what youre looking for ?
[05:00] <mtelesha> minetruly: just make sure you google and man your questions before you ask :)
[05:00] <minetruly> But also, I'll be wanting to install other OS's to boot from.
[05:01] <minetruly> Believe me, for teh boot problem, I did! :) But yes, I know how annoying it is to get questions that Google could have answered.
[05:02] <minetruly> Thanks again! G'night!
[05:02] <john_doe_jr> s0nee: well basename phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump just gives me the file name back
[05:03] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: you need to include ".dump" as the second argument
[05:04] <john_doe_jr> s0nee: awesome that worked!
[05:07] <s0nee> john_doe_jr: also 'echo aa.dump | cut -d. -f1' gives me aa. -d. means . is the delimiter, and -f1 means first field
[05:08] <jordanm> bleh
[05:09] <jordanm> foo="aa.dump"; echo "${foo%.*}"
[05:09] <jordanm> cut and a pipeline is not needed, and that will work in any POSIX shell
[05:09] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: ^
[05:10] <codepython777>  is there a way to chat locally with a  user on a ubuntu box? like talk localuser? (I could use wall to send messages)
[05:10] <jordanm> also, instead of basename: "${var##*/}"
[05:11] <jordanm> codepython777: I recall ephiphany having some kind of local network p2p support
[05:11] <john_doe_jr> s0nee: jordanm ….I'm trying to do the following: http://pastie.org/4795558   look @ line 14…that is where it is messing up…any ideas how I can correct this?
[05:11] <jordanm> err, not ephiphany.. the default chat client
[05:12] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: that link doesn't work for me, or the pagewash proxy, try a different site
[05:12] <john_doe_jr> http://pastebin.com/gULDfPz5
[05:14] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: you don't need basename
[05:14] <john_doe_jr> jordanm: how do I do it then?
[05:15] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: "${FILE_LOCATION%*.gz}"
[05:15] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: you don't even need the function (which actually does nothing anyways)
[05:17] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: oh, wait, -d is the database name?
[05:17] <john_doe_jr> jordan: yes
[05:17] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: functions in bash can only return integers, so if you want them to provide data for use outside of the function, they need to modify a variable
[05:17] <Jordan_U> jordanm: Or you can capture stdout.
[05:18] <Nordom> I downloaded a .tgz how do I install it?
[05:18] <jordanm> that's true
[05:18] <jordanm> Nordom: follow the documentation, and ask #android
[05:19] <Nordom> #jordanm ... u know that ur lick says "You have succesfully install android-SDK" it doesnt give you any advice on HOW to fucking install it assumes u have
[05:19] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: getName() { fname="${FILE_LOCATION##*/}"; dbname="${fname%*.dump.gz}"; }; getName; psql -U postgres -d "$dbname" -f /Users/johnDoejr/Desktop/phase3-backup-20120921010002.dump
[05:19] <IdleOne> !language | Nordom
[05:20] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: also, () is only used on function definitions, not calling them. they are called just like any ordinary command
[05:20] <Nordom> well I just get annoyed when someone says go RTFM but the manual is not existant =/
[05:21] <jordanm> Nordom: IMO, the android documentation is quiet good in comparision to other programming documentation you will find out there
[05:21] <rabbi1> how to add ibus to system startup in 12.04 ?
[05:22] <jordanm> Nordom: if you installed it, setup eclipse and move on
[05:22] <Nordom> Jordanm: good that it works for you, but for it says I have already installed it and this gives zero documentations on HOW to do it, I find it a bit lacking
[05:22] <IdleOne> Nordom: a .tgz of what?
[05:22] <jordanm> Nordom: step 2: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/adding-packages.html
[05:22] <john_doe_jr> jordanm: totally cofused by your post ..trying to sort it out
[05:22] <jordanm> IdleOne: android sdk
[05:24] <Nordom> IdleOne: Android-sdk .tgz, I tried installing via PPA, and it installed it to my /usr/bin folder and I couldnt really use it, Jordanm, advice I should remove the package and install that .tar.gz from androids website, I did do that, but do not know how to install it since it is a .tgz file
[05:24] <jordanm> john_doe_jr: http://pastebin.com/gNUNmyk2
[05:25] <Nordom> jordanm, I cannot get to that stage because I cannot install it
[05:25] <jordanm> IdleOne: the "package" he installed just put a zip file in /usr/bin
[05:25] <jordanm> Nordom: why not?
[05:25] <Nordom> or at least, asking what the commands are to install a .tgz I am assuming I need to extract it, but I am a nub to ubuntu so I am asking for help, and if u read up you would notice I asked that
[05:25] <jordanm> Nordom: isn't there a README or INSTALL file in the tarball?
[05:26] <somsip> Nordom: maybe this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[05:26] <jordanm> Nordom: use the "tar" command or file roller (or w/e is the default for gnome these days)
[05:28] <Nordom> thank you somsip it exactly what I wanted, and jordanm you solution is to go read the manual isnt what I was asking either
[05:28] <somsip> Nordom: jordanm's answer was perfectly fine. I just googled it for you, that's all
[05:29] <Nordom> somsip, u solved the soltion on a whole, my orginal question is how to I install a .tgz which I have googled and the answer that I found were not cleared or for other formats
[05:30] <admas> Hello Expertees i am admas and i' from Ethiopia. and i want to be good programmer and network expert. thats why i choose ubuntu-linux. but i dont have any knowledge except some basic things ( i mean i have tried to study c++ before visual basic, html) but i didnt have resource like the internet and i am not sure i know anything. i jailbreak and unlock iphones that come from america and any other rich countries. i maintain computers ( like formatting and some
[05:30] <K350> What's the name of the tool used for customizing the plasma desktop - wallpaper and such? I've to open it from a terminal.
[05:30] <admas>  basic hardware issues) but i am sure if i get enough support i will be good computer guy. So any one who is concerned please help me. right here or on my email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thank u everyone.
[05:30] <jordanm> Nordom: to be clear, a .tgz is just like a zip file, you don't really "install" it, you just unpack it or in tar terms "untar"
[05:30] <somsip> !ask | admas
[05:31] <jordanm> Nordom: if its something that requires installation, you would use the files inside to perform the installation
[05:31] <jordanm> most often via compilation
[05:33] <admas> thank u guys! what do i have to install to compile c++ on ubuntu? it was borland, turbo on windows.
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Nordom: Asking generically "how do I install a tar.gz file" is somewhat like asking "how do I make brownies from a box of brownie mix". Tar.gz files are just containers, and their contents can be almost anything. If they contain software, about the only thing that you can be sure of is that they will have a file called "README" or "INSTALL" with further instructions.
[05:33] <jordanm> admas: gcc/g++. install build-essentials
[05:34] <Anona> How long does a mysql install usually take?
[05:34] <Anona> Setting up mysql-server-5.1 (5.1.63-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[05:34] <Anona> runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory
[05:34] <Anona> i've been stuck at this point for nearly an hour
[05:35] <RawgerNice> wake up big baby
[05:35] <jordanm> Anona: about 1min on modern hardware
[05:35] <Nordom> jordanm: I am sure you have tons of experience opening and installing in linux, as some one who has just recently started the process of getting from a to z insent always clear, I have extracted those files before but they did nothing. I was apprently suppose to extract them to where they are suppose to be. As a former windows user I rely on an install program to do that for me, so that thought
[05:35] <Nordom> process wasnt readily apparent.
[05:35] <somsip> Nordom: jordanm I thought we'd got a solution with the weblink there. Is a discussion still needed?
[05:35] <Anona> jordanm: so, uhh, if you'll forgive my noobness, how should i proceed :S
[05:36] <Nordom> also the readme doesnt contain installation process just says access it via this root
[05:36] <frybye> Hi - in 12.04 under additional drivers I am told that I have (after some trouble-) got the propr. rt2870STA driver installed and working but now with no network-manager (is uses some other system?) how do I access the settings to connect?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Nordom: In Ubuntu you almost never install things via tar.gz (or by going to any website at all), you search for them and install them via Ubuntu Software Center, (or via apt-get if you prefer the terminal instead of a GUI).
[05:37] <popsch> how can I use a hex password in nm-applet?
[05:37] <jordanm> somsip: I provided some more information I felt may be useful. I see no discussion
[05:37] <somsip> jordanm: fair enough. Just trying to get back OT...
[05:37] <Jordan_U> popsch: Is this for a WEP network?
[05:37] <popsch> Jordan_U, yes
[05:38] <frybye> btw- have no access to the net from withing 12.04 and so am using win7 to connect here now...
[05:38] <Jordan_U> popsch: You should be able to just enter the password as hex and nm will be smart enough to treat it as such. If you have any control over this network I highly recommend that you switch to WPA though, it will be both easier (passphrase rather than hex) *and* much more secure.
[05:38] <frybye> who is the duty ubuntu wifi guru online just now?
[05:39] <Nordom> jordanm: android-sdk is not on the software center, and I said earlier I tried to install via PPA and it installed it weird, thus I was forced to use a .tgz =/ But somsip guide to solve the problem
[05:39] <jordanm> Nordom: some software on the PPA is packaged well, but some of it is very poor, so you have to be careful what you use from PPAs
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Nordom: Just so you know, even though our nicks are similar, jordanm and I are two different people :)
[05:40] <IdleOne> Nordom: I suspect #andriod would be of much greater help, not to mention the fact that it is technically not supported in this channel.
[05:40] <IdleOne> #android sorry
[05:40] <jordanm> I get highlighted when someone says Jordan_U anyways :/
[05:41] <jordanm> problem for years now it seems like, in various freenode channels
[05:41] <popsch> Jordan_U, thanks, I'll try it and talk to them about WEP. I know the weaknesses of WEP, but they seem to want WEP over WPA so their old devices work better. *shrug*
[05:42] <Jordan_U> popsch: You're welcome, and good luck.
[05:42] <popsch> Jordan_U, btw. I dislike the automatic thing, is there a way to let nm-applet know that it's a hex key? there's no common prefix like 0x... ?
[05:43] <jordanm> popsch: WEP is always hex, so when you enter in WEP, its assumed
[05:43] <popsch> ok. will try
[05:43] <popsch> thanks.
[05:44] <fuzzman54> Can anyone tell me how to make it so that when I click in the top right corner of my screen, the maximized window that has focus closes?
[05:45] <Anona> okay, i got the install to complete by ctrl-zing and starting the mysql service, but now
[05:45] <LarsN> any idea if/when we might see an ubuntu based settop box?
[05:45] <admas> never used linux. right from windows. what do i have to do to compile c++ in ubuntu?
[05:45] <Anona> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server
[05:46] <LarsN> admas: are you trying to compile the compiler, or just source code?
[05:46] <jordanm> Anona: you shouldn't use ctrl+z, that just suspends
[05:46] <jordanm> Anona: type "fg" and use ctrl+c
[05:46] <admas> source code
[05:46] <LarsN> admas: if you need compiler tools you might want to add "build-essential"
[05:46] <blackshirt> admas: linux has provided c/c++ compiler
[05:46] <LarsN> which includes a lot of libraries, and software development tools
[05:47] <Anona> jordanm: i had to suspend it because it was waiting for the mysql daemon to start
[05:47] <admas> alright let me try, will be back
[05:47] <Anona> so when i did fg, it proceeded smoothly
[05:47] <Jordan_U> admas: If it's just a simple "hello world" type application, then you can just do "g++ hello.cpp".
[05:47] <Jordan_U> admas: Then run your program with "./a.out".
[05:47] <fuzzman54> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/781378
[05:49] <fuzzman54> It was filed as a bug, but then invalidated.
[05:52] <fuzzman54> I really don't understand how IRC support rooms work. My idea was that it would be a faster way of getting support like I would from the forums.
[05:52] <LarsN> fuzzman54: as long as someone in the room knows how to help you solve your problem that may be exactly the case.
[05:54] <LarsN> fuzzman54: I don't have a system that can run Compiz handy or I'd go through your steps to reproduce.
[05:54] <LarsN> sorry :(
[05:54] <fuzzman54> So it's just that nobody knows how to help? It doesn't just take forever to get an answer?
[05:54] <somsip> fuzzman54: just depends on who is on here and how busy they are with other stuff
[05:54] <LarsN> fuzzman54: I haven't exactly seen a question, just a statement that your bug was marked invalid.  was there another question before that I missed?
[05:55] <fuzzman54> Okay. I thought maybe it was a wait-your-turn kind of thing.
[05:55] <somsip> fuzzman54: nope, and sometime you need !patience
[05:56] <fuzzman54> "Ca anyone tell me how to make it so that when I click in the top right corner of my screen, the maximized window that has focus closes?"
[05:56] <jordanm> IRC user's can offer, but they generally can't fix bugs for you, unless its a simple configuration issue
[05:57] <LarsN> fuzzman54: I just maximized my terminal in Unity (default install of 12.10)  the top right corner is my power gear.
[05:57] <fuzzman54> The bug report isn't mine, I was just saying that I'm having the same issue as the person who filed it. I thought that since it was marked invalid, it wasn't actually a problem, but a misunderstanding on the person who filed the bug's part.
[05:57] <LarsN> fuzzman54: if I double click the right most open space on the title bar, it unmaximizes the window.
[05:58] <MACscr> if im running light-dm and lxde, can i remove gnome and unity?
[05:58] <LarsN> fuzzman54: you want it to actually close?
[05:58] <fuzzman54> Yes. I've switched the close,minimize, and resize buttons to be on the right.
[05:58] <LarsN> MACscr: is hard drive space at a premium?
[05:59] <MACscr> LarsN: not really, but its a server, so i just want to remove as much junk as possible
[05:59] <KM0201> MACscr: if it's a server, use ubuntu server, that will remove as much junk as possible
[05:59] <LarsN> MACscr: you might look at the ubuntu server install, and then just install light-dm and LXDE
[06:00] <KM0201> why do you even want a GUI on a server?
[06:00] <LarsN> MACscr: assuming you require the GUI at all, otherwise KM0201 is exactly right.  the Ubuntu-Server install doesn't include any of the userland gui software/tools
[06:00] <MACscr> well i already have it installed, thus why im asking =P
[06:00] <MACscr> but yes, i do require the gui as i do use the system to power my 4th monitor that i use to display some monitoring tools
[06:00] <KM0201> hmmm, seems a little odd to me, but.. ok
[06:01] <LarsN> MACscr: I've never tried this, so I can't promise it won't "Break Everything" (TM) but you could try to use apt to uninstall/remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <KM0201> i've only used Ubuntu Server for a home based NAS (torrents, media server, etc..) so I guess i can't really relate to what you're trying to do.
[06:02]  * LarsN has access to a "LOT" of Ubuntu servers.
[06:02]  * KM0201 wishes they had based OMV on Ubuntu Server.
[06:03]  * Calinou does not care.
[06:03]  * KM0201 thinks Calinou would care if he had a NAS
[06:03] <Calinou> lolNAS
[06:03] <Calinou> noone uses that
[06:04] <KM0201> sure.. lots fo people do.
[06:04] <LarsN> My NAS runs FreeNAS, but I'm a FreeBSD guy at heart.
[06:04] <KM0201> probably more people nowdays than ever (given the fact hard drives are such crap)
[06:04] <KM0201> LarsN: i liked FreeNas, until 8 came out, and it absolutely screwed me...
[06:04] <IdleOne> let's get back on topic please
[06:04] <Calinou> hard drive == NAS
[06:04] <Calinou> this doesn't solve the issue of throwing laptops around
[06:04] <KM0201> lol, hardly, but ok.
[06:04] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-offtopic has 5 free open slots for chatters
[06:05] <KM0201> lol
[06:05]  * Calinou is banned, try harder
[06:05] <MACscr> KM0201: its just my home server and i have 3 monitors connected to my hackintosh and then i have a 4th connected to the server. This way i can have a few things viewable on the 4th monitor at all times without affecting my other work on my main pc
[06:05] <IdleOne> Calinou: Don't make me have to ban you here also then :/
[06:05] <LarsN> MACscr: if you've got a virtualbox installation laying around, it might be a fun test to install light-dm and lxde, then apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <KM0201> MACscr: i dunno, still doesn't make sense, why do you need a screen on a server at all?
[06:05] <LarsN> MACscr: I wouldn't try it on a host you were fond of first though.
[06:06] <MACscr> LarsN: why? its goign to tell me what its going to remove
[06:06] <fuzzman54> He uses it for keeping track of things visually with a monitor. He already said that.
[06:06] <LarsN> KM0201: I suspect it's part of a synergy pool, and "server" in kind of a loose sense of the term :)
[06:06] <MACscr> anyway, i already ran it and it removed just that single thing which was 54kb =P
[06:06] <LarsN> MACscr: sigh.
[06:07] <MACscr> and yes. im using synergy
[06:07] <LarsN> MACscr: I know installing Ubuntu-desktop adds virtually everything needed to take a server-install to workstion land.
[06:07] <LarsN> guess it's just a big meta package.
[06:07] <MACscr> that is correct
[06:08] <LarsN> if you've got backups, I suspect you can bomb gnome and unity.
[06:08] <KM0201> LarsN: if you can figure out how to uninstall all that other crap.. this command should do exactly what you want... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1884720
[06:09] <somsip> MACscr: I did this with desktop edition when I moved away from gnome, but ended up installing minimal install from scratch and just installing the WM I wanted. That pulled in all other dependencies. This may be an option for yu with the server edition?
[06:09] <LarsN> MACscr: ^ :)
[06:09] <KM0201> depending on if you know how to set it up again though, it might be easier to download ubuntu server, install it, then apt-get install lubuntu-core --no-install-recommends   and it will install almost nothing.
[06:12] <MACscr> i have way to many server tweaks going on to do a reinstall. Guess i will just have to remove things one by one
[06:18] <eliteprodigy> Right, I have a LAM stack running locally, with my prjects symlinked into /var/www but I keep getting  [Tue Sep 25 02:15:27 2012] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0, when trying to access the files.
[06:18] <eliteprodigy> They're PHP files, if it matters (I'm sure it does)
[06:18] <eliteprodigy> I was following this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www but haven't gotten very far.
[06:19] <Hayate> eliteprodigy, how the ownership of that files/folders?
[06:19] <rabbi1> how to add ibus to system startup in 12.04 ?
[06:20] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: The actual files are owned by me, but have the group set to web-data as per the tutorial I was following.
[06:20] <Hayate> eliteprodigy, coomobly,dir/files under /var/www owned by www-data of apache server
[06:21] <Hayate> commonly
[06:21] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: Ummmm....I didn't quite get that?
[06:22] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: I only want to be able to edit/modify/update /var/www without sudo, my research led me to believe symlinks were the best option, but they're not working, not sure where to go.
[06:22] <Hayate> permission denied commonly caused by miss about ownership or permission bit
[06:23] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: So how do I fix it?
[06:23] <rpaliwal> what is the channel for pulseaudio?
[06:23] <Hayate> they dont change the /var/www maybe
[06:24] <eliteprodigy> I'm confused...
[06:30] <Hayate> eliteprodigy, you just need ensure,your apache have a access to them
[06:31] <eliteprodigy> Hayate: Okay, well the group on the home directory and the documents folder and the project folders are all set to "web-data" but I'm still receiving the error.
[06:45] <rabbi1> installed new language, and now my folder names are all in that language. how can i get back to default language ?
[06:47] <g00053> okay ubuntu geniuses , i've finally gotten desktop sharing to work. my question is ...how do i go about doing it from outside my LAN now ?
[06:49] <Kartagis> how do I check whether my host is SNMP-enabled?
[06:49] <Kartagis> g00053: port forwarding on your modem/router
[06:51] <Joebeezy10> hi
[06:55] <tom__> sup
[06:56] <Joebeezy10> nm u
[06:57] <foo357> Hello, I'm using 10.04 LTS and I have an issue with a package that doesn't seem to be available in the repository.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> foo357:wich package
[06:58] <Wizard> Hi.
[06:58] <foo357> lotuspsychje: libtermcap-devel
[06:58] <martini> : )
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> foo357:can you paste the error?
[06:59] <foo357> lotuspsychje: no unfortunately I cannot, this particular computer doesn't have a internet conntection. So I manage software installation through a tool called keryx.
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> !info libncurses5-dev
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> foo357:try that package
[07:03] <coolen> coka
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> coolen:?
[07:04] <coolen> nothing
[07:04] <coolen> just fell14:57 -!- #ubuntu-ch 9 Ubuntu Switzerland, http://www.ubuntu-ch.org | Channel language: English, please! | For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者
[07:05] <coolen> --!
[07:05] <Wizard> :D
[07:05] <coolen> :)
[07:06] <coolen> it's quite
[07:08] <coolen> ⊙﹏⊙b
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> !ot | coolen
[07:08] <coolen> ok
[07:11] <simion314> hi, none of mi microphone are working, i had them work before and after changing some settings in alsamizer now none of them work(rear or front ports)
[07:12] <simion314> i enabled them so they are not muted, I need some help please
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !jack | simion314
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> simion314:try to reset alsamixer maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068612
[07:13] <vartotojas> good morning guys. im having a problem with java. atm i think i dont have one, cause online games isnt working for me, so im looking for help how to donwload and install java
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !java | vartotojas
[07:15] <simion314> lotuspsychje: thx, i tryed reseting , that foruim is old, i used alsactl init      command
[07:17] <woodputerrepair> Anyone available to help with wireless USB network Device drivers?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:plz details mate
[07:19] <foo357> thanks for the help lotuspsychje
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> foo357: did it work?
[07:19] <foo357> lotuspsychje: yes I believe so
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> foo357: glad it helped mate i found it on a forum from LjL
[07:20] <woodputerrepair> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and using terminal, it found my usb device, but it won't let me use it. It just says "Disconnected", and won't let me connect.
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:what brand is the usb device? did you install drivers?
[07:22] <woodputerrepair> Linksys RT8192 wireless usb device. And I haven't been able to find drivers for anything except windows.
[07:22] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: what the problems exactly is ?
[07:23] <woodputerrepair> device is disconnected and will not let me connect. It is grayed out.
[07:27] <woodputerrepair> Being a computer repair specialist. This is the first time I have had any problems with any versions of Linux. So I hope you can feel my frustration.
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:did you add the usb device after installation?
[07:27] <auronandace> woodputerrepair: whats the issue?
[07:28] <ikonia> being a computer repair person has nothing to do with linux why is that even relevant
[07:29] <woodputerrepair> yes I did. It works great in windows, just not in linux.
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:seems like my square mouse prob has fixed itself after an update, tnx again for the helps
[07:29] <ikonia> woodputerrepair: some network cards have no / little / poor linux support that maybe something you need to accept
[07:30] <auronandace> !yay | lotuspsychje
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:lol
[07:30] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: there are some driver for rtl818x series
[07:31] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: that is rtl8180  rtl8187
[07:31] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: but maybe it was not yours
[07:31] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: was it a kernel update, driver update?
[07:31] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: maybe your card was in new release categories :D
[07:31] <woodputerrepair> mine is a rtl8192
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:i really dont know what fixed it, did nothing special myself
[07:32] <blackshirt> !info rtl8192
[07:32] <blackshirt> !info rtl8192 | woodputerrepair
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> auronandace:i just pasted the bug few times in ubuntu-bugs
[07:32] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: what ubuntu release are you using now ?
[07:33] <woodputerrepair> newest and the greatest.
[07:33] <unimatrix9> test
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !test | unimatrix9
[07:34] <auronandace> woodputerrepair: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek
[07:34] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: maybe this is help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433401
[07:35] <woodputerrepair> am looking right now...Be right back.
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> woodputerrepair:maybe this could help too: http://www.tuxamito.com/joomla/index.php/en/component/content/article/100-realtek-rt8192
[07:38] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: these series maybe on stagging step
[07:40] <amd> Hello
[07:40] <woodputerrepair> Hey gang, I'm back to report that I got the driver from RealTek and it is working. The system is now updating and it looks like it may take a little while. I very much appreciate the help in getting this system online.
[07:40] <blackshirt> woodputerrepair: greats :d
[07:40] <blackshirt> amd: hello
[07:40] <BEJolley> hello
[07:41] <amd> I have a question about Linux Mint Maya can any body help me with that?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !mint | amd
[07:41] <BEJolley> How Are You?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !ask | BEJolley
[07:42] <amd> Thanks
[07:42] <amd> wrong #
[07:43] <BEJolley> how are you
[07:43] <kernel2> I want to change my screen resolution with xrandr . i have VGA-0 but xrandr --newmode goes to HDMI-0 !
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> BEJolley:this is an ubuntu support channel mate, you have a question?
[07:43] <kernel2> how can i force xrandr to set my setting to VGA-0
[07:43] <blackshirt> amd: no
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | kernel2
[07:45] <kernel2> i have just one screen !
[07:46] <MarcoFe> hi guys
[07:47] <canadacow> morning
[07:47] <MarcoFe> A good prg to scan document on kde??
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !info skanlite | MarcoFe
[07:49] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: tnx :)
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> MarcoFe:software centre might know some more
[07:50] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: it's true :)
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> MarcoFe: apt-cache search scan kde
[07:52] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: ou yea
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:53] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: skanlite it's good for my purposes
[07:53] <MarcoFe> lotuspsychje: tnx so much
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> MarcoFe:glad it helped mate
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> MarcoFe: gimp, simplescan, xsane
[07:54] <MarcoFe> ActionParsnip: tnx but i'm using skanlite under lotuspsychje's suggestion
[07:56] <Guido1> hello, i want to instal a printer (brother DCP 110C resp 115C). I already downloaded and executed cupswrapperDCP110C-1.0.2-3.i386.deb and dcp110clpr-1.0.2-1.i386.deb . What have i to do know? The printer is a samba printer
[07:56] <cfhowlett> Guido1: pretty sure you need to Add A Network Printer
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> MarcoFe: searching software center will show you others too :)
[07:57] <Guido1> yes, but how do i add it?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: install them in the order they appear on the site, then mapt the printer
[07:58] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: "them"? it is one printer
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: them, you have TWO files. yes?
[07:59] <kernel2> Hello
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: then it's them, isn't it?
[07:59] <pox> hello
[07:59] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: yes, i have 2 files and instaled them
[08:00] <kernel2> How can use xrandr to force newmode on VGA-0 ?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: then use the printers option in the cog menu and add the printer there
[08:00] <chraso> hi all
[08:00] <Guido1> cog menu?
[08:00] <chraso> need help on this error while "apt-get update"
[08:00] <chraso> Reading package lists... Done
[08:00] <chraso> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[08:00] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: i can't find the printer anywhere
[08:01] <cfhowlett> Guido1: search / add NETWORK printer if I'm not mistaken
[08:02] <Guido1> cfhowlett: i know the exact pas. i'm now at "adding new printer" --> network --> smb-printer and enterd the exact location. then it is found
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: select to add a samba printer, then search
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: or type the IP or name of the other system and probe it
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: obviously set the firewall to allow the local traffic for printer sharing
[08:03] <Guido1> ActionParsnip:  i know the exact pas. i'm now at "adding new printer" --> network --> smb-printer and enterd the exact location. then it is found
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: cool
[08:03] <Guido1> now i can click "next"
[08:04] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: but now i have the option "select from daterbase", "oppen ppd-file" and search for a programma
[08:05] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: so what is the next step?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: select from the installed drivers you have, then the driver should be available
[08:07] <mehrdad> how to install rmagick (ruby gem)???????????????????????
[08:07] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: you meen from the database?
[08:07] <ikonia> you can start by not doing ?????????????????????????
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: yes
[08:08] <desu> i was wondering if anyone could help me (im not sure if im in the right place) but i am having toubles booting up windows 7 from ubuntu
[08:08] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: okee, but there it is not listed :-(
[08:09] <mehrdad> hellooooooo everyone
[08:09] <ikonia> mehrdad: please stop that
[08:09] <mehrdad> how to install rmagick?
[08:09] <mehrdad> ok
[08:09] <ikonia> mehrdad: please just talk with normal words
[08:10] <mehrdad> ok sorry
[08:10] <desu> can anyone help me in figuring out how to boot window 7 from ubuntu?
[08:10] <ikonia> desu: you are aware you set that up in grub ?
[08:10] <desu> no
[08:10] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: okee, but there it is not listed
[08:10] <mehrdad> desu: grub update
[08:10] <ikonia> desu: Im assuming this is a dual boot system with ubuntu and windows installed ?
[08:11] <desu> i would like to dool boot, but im not sure ill be able to figure that one out
[08:11] <desu> dulal*
[08:11] <desu> dual**
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: have you got ubuntu and windows installed at the moment ?
[08:11] <desu> no only ubuntu
[08:11] <desu> i have the windows 7 disc though
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: ok - so here is how to do it easy
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: 2.) install ubuntu
[08:11] <ikonia> done
[08:11] <ikonia> desu: 1.) install windows
[08:12] <ikonia> desu: do it in that order and you'll have no issue
[08:12] <desu> it will not let me boot the windowd disc
[08:12] <desu> that is what i am trying to figure out
[08:12] <ikonia> desu: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:12] <ikonia> desu: that's your disc/hardware
[08:12] <mehrdad> desu: simply
[08:12] <anon131313> desu: not hard to figure out. Look at your bios splash screen
[08:12] <desu> it a brand new disc though thats why im a little confused
[08:12] <mehrdad> desu: update-grub
[08:12] <ikonia> mehrdad: please read what he said
[08:12] <ikonia> mehrdad: he doesn't have windows installed
[08:13] <desu> so what would be the simplest way in me getting my windows disc to boot up?
[08:13] <anon131313> desu when your computer boots it will give you options like press f10 etc
[08:13] <ikonia> desu: this is nothing to do with ubuntu - take it to ##hardware or ##windows channel
[08:13] <desu> okay
[08:13] <desu> thank you
[08:14] <ikonia> welcome
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> desu:run ubuntu single on your hd, lose windows :p
[08:14] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: that's not what he asked for
[08:14] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: he asked for dual boot
[08:14] <mehrdad> ikonia: can i help me
[08:14] <ikonia> mehrdad: no
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: i know, we can suggest better ideas no?
[08:14] <mehrdad> ok
[08:15] <mehrdad> u
[08:15] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: it's not a better idea if he actually wants or needs windows,
[08:15] <ikonia> blindly ramming ubuntu down peoples throats and telling them to dump windows is unacceptable
[08:15] <s3b`> Hey I have a question.. just downloaded ubuntu and trying to get this damn icon working on the unity launcher
[08:15] <anon131313> ikonia why did you send desu away :(
[08:16] <d8bhatta> Hello, I have installed windows xp with vmware in linux and  tried to run my php based web application through xp. But i am getting error like You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected.
[08:16] <d8bhatta> i am neither seeing option to give write permission to the folders from xp. Help needed to solve the issue?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: do you mean the top left icon in dash?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Guido1: should be have a hunt. It may be at the bottom
[08:17] <ikonia> anon131313: because getting someones hardware to boot a windows CD is not an #ubuntu issue
[08:17] <s3b`> ActionParsnip I'm trying to create a shortcut on the launcher on the left, and all I'm getting is a springboard
[08:17] <ikonia> d8bhatta: what version of ubuntu are you running
[08:18] <d8bhatta> ikonia: 12.04
[08:18] <s3b`> my download came with an icons folder that i cp'd into usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48
[08:18] <ikonia> d8bhatta: and you are serving PHP from that 12.04 install ?
[08:18] <s3b`> that's the last thing I've tried, and now it won't even show up >:[
[08:18] <Raji> Hello. I want to access a ubuntu desktop from windows 7 to know what the client is doing. How can i do that?
[08:19] <s3b`> http://i.imgur.com/RoP5N.png
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: is it a custom launcher you made?
[08:19] <d8bhatta>  s3b`: yes, my php files are served from ubuntu
[08:19] <anon131313> ikonia now desu is probably going to mess up bootloader now though if listen to #windows isn't there ubuntu documentation on this issue that could have been pointed to
[08:19] <Guido1> ActionParsnip: already cheked that, but there it isn't
[08:19] <s3b`> ActionParsnip yeah I'm trying to get sublime text on the side
[08:19] <ikonia> anon131313: nope, not for booting a windows CD on his hardware, we don't document users hardware
[08:19] <d8bhatta> actually I have to run same appliaction from both linux and windows to test the stuff with different browsers of IE,..
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: can you pastebin the desktop file you made
[08:20] <s3b`> btw awesome screenshot feature :P
[08:20] <ikonia> d8bhatta: and you are serving PHP from that 12.04 install ?
[08:20] <s3b`> no problem
[08:20] <Raji> Hello. I want to access a ubuntu desktop from windows 7 to know what the client is doing. How can i do that?
[08:20] <d8bhatta> ikonia:yes
[08:20] <d8bhatta> sorry..ikonia, php is installed in xp
[08:20] <ikonia> d8bhatta: ok, so you've got a 12.04 host serving a PHP application....the windows XP client gets a permisson denied problem, correct
[08:20] <ikonia> ?
[08:20] <ikonia> d8bhatta: ok - so Windows XP is serving PHP ?
[08:20] <anon131313> ikonia documentation for the dual boot with buntu installed first is what I meant. But I am sure you knew that
[08:21] <umad> Raji: Try Teamviewer
[08:21] <ikonia> anon131313: there is documentation for dual boot - not on how to boot a windows CD on his computer
[08:21] <d8bhatta> ikonia: yes, windows xp is servcing LAMP , only files are referenced to the location of ubuntu dir
[08:21] <ikonia> d8bhatta: ok, then ##windows is the correct channel to get help in
[08:21] <s3b`> ActionParsnip Oh it's not showing anything now for some reason once i put it in /share/applications
[08:21] <ikonia> d8bhatta: the issue is with windows XP serving PHP
[08:22] <s3b`> but double clicking it still works
[08:22] <d8bhatta> ikonia: hmm...sounds good
[08:22] <s3b`> Oh wait
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: in /usr/share/applications I assume :)
[08:22] <s3b`> got it, and ActionParsnip yeah just getting lazy writing it out so many damn times :P
[08:22] <akis> hi all. any idea how can i clear my dashboard 'files'. activity-log-manager cannot clear this section. any other advise?
[08:23] <Raji> umad: I want to do without  the knowledge of client
[08:23] <s3b`> ActionParsnip http://hastebin.com/vililiveko.rb
[08:23] <ikonia> Raji: so you want to spy....
[08:24] <umad> Raji: Maybe this article helps you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[08:24] <x2q> :h
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: is line 11 ok, with the space in the filename? Could copy the icon to /usr/share/icons then reference it there without the spaces
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: also switch line 7 to read as the same icon filename
[08:27] <Raji> ikonia: i am admin and i w ant clients are doingwith the system
[08:28] <umad> SSH would be the easy way
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> and secure
[08:28] <ikonia> Raji: right, so you want to spy on your clients
[08:29] <ikonia> umad: ssh is not going to allow him to monitor the desktop
[08:29] <s3b`> ActionParsnip that'll do :)
[08:29] <s3b`> damn thanks!
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: sweet
[08:29] <Raji> ikonia: yes
[08:29] <s3b`> ActionParsnip looking back at it, that dir didn't even exist. I don't know why it was pointing there
[08:30] <Raji> ikonia: so what can i do
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> Hi
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> s3b`: freaky, good the review stuff though :)
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> I wonder... Can I run 32 bit ubuntu as the host and 64 bit ubuntu as a guest in something like virtual box?
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: If he wants to monitor why not use teamviewer?
[08:30] <joshyu> tt
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: i'm not sure, I'm sure the guys in #vbox will know
[08:31] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: Yea ok I'll ask there
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: i'd imagine not, any reason for 64bit guest?
[08:33] <foo357> Hello, I'm installing some software from source. It's a server software but I can't get it to start on startup. I have copied a script to /etc/init.d/ and made a symlink from rc5.d, what should I check to see what's wrong?
[08:37] <seduce1> hello. I cannot do "Partial Upgrade". It has happened before but it got fixed. Now it stays like that for more than two days
[08:37] <seduce1> can someone help me with that
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: Someone pointed me to a official vbox link explaining if my CPU supports hardware virtualization it should work http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests
[08:37] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: It does btw
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     use http://pastie.org
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: nice :)
[08:38] <seduce1> how do I give the output just type the commands?
[08:38] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: Just wanted a 64 bit test system for when I start the edx class on intro to programming and computers
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: run the commands, copy the output and use the pastebin to give the output?
[08:39] <seduce1> okay, It just got update, which for now works, and says I have to restart. I will do the commands after the restart and will tell you
[08:40] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: 32 bit ubuntu oddly supports my laptop better then 64 bit, some drivers like one for my dialup doesn't work on 64 bit lol
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: can you pastebin the output please, not your interpretation. Thanks
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: strange
[08:41] <gordonjcp> ShapeShifter499: dialup?
[08:41] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: Yes
[08:41] <gordonjcp> ShapeShifter499: that still exists?
[08:42] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: I need the "martian modem" driver
[08:42] <ShapeShifter499> That hasn't been updated for 64 bit lol
[08:42] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: Yea loads of free (provided you have a landline) dialup numbers in my area
[08:44] <ShapeShifter499> I wanted it to work mainly for faxing and only really need to dialup when my phone needs a software update
[08:45] <ShapeShifter499> Due to the fact it's my source of net
[08:45] <ShapeShifter499> Meh what ever works lol
[08:46] <gordonjcp> ShapeShifter499: isn't it expensive?
[08:46] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp: it's free if you use google voice to route your fax out of your dialing code
[08:47] <ShapeShifter499> And free within dialing code
[08:48] <foo357> Hello, I need some help with cron.
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> foo357: do you have a desktop UI?
[08:48] <foo357> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:48] <seduce1> ActionParsnip here are the links:
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> foo357: use gnome-schedule     or to cron as root run:  gksudo gnome-schedule
[08:48] <thenewsguy> !ol | ShapeShifter499
[08:49] <seduce1> for the UPDATEL: http://pastie.org/4796322
[08:49] <ShapeShifter499> thenewsguy: Huh?
[08:49] <seduce1> for the UPGRADE: http://pastie.org/4796325
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> foo357: waaaay easier :)
[08:49] <seduce1> will you check them
[08:49] <thenewsguy> ShapeShifter499: Sorry, I was just testing something
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> seduce1  notice 'maverick', down below
[08:50] <ShapeShifter499> Oh lol np
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: quantal isn't supported here
[08:50] <seduce1> mm
[08:50] <foo357> ActionParsnip: I'm really just doing a simple thing. A guy has adviced me to add the line "@reboot /path/to/pg_ctl -D /path/to/PGDATA start" to crontab. But I have virtually zero experience of cron.
[08:50] <seduce1> so what do I do now
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: this channel is for stable releases only, quantal is supported in #ubuntu+1
[08:50] <seduce1> ok, I will go there
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> seduce1: the channel told yuo that when you joined
[08:51] <foo357> ActionParsnip: so is it the file /etc/crontab? And is it just as simple as adding this line at the end?