[00:00] <davidk> you are running X on a framebuffer?
[00:01] <davidk> if not the log basically says "driver not found" and you should install an appropriate graphics driver for whatever your hardware is.
[00:02] <davidk> if you are sure that is NOT the case I have another idea
[00:02] <davidk> but fixing your kernel would be the proper way to do it
[00:03] <davidk> good night, and good luck with that
[00:03] <AlexGer> hmm
[00:04] <AlexGer> it should emulate the Grafics
[00:04] <AlexGer> ph
[00:06] <AlexGer> Cirrus emulated graphics adapter
[00:06] <davidk> what vm is this?
[00:09] <davidk> vmware?
[00:10] <davidk> AlexGer: ?
[00:10] <AlexGer> sry
[00:11] <AlexGer> no
[00:11] <AlexGer> citrix
[00:11] <AlexGer> xenserver
[00:13] <AlexGer> http://pastebin.com/msjGPkcp
[00:13] <TheWonderingGuru> Hello everyone, quick question. What do I do to switch my clock in lubuntu 11.10 from 24 hour time to normal time?
[00:14] <wxl> TheWonderingGuru: replace %H with %I
[00:15] <wxl> add %p at the end if you want AM/PM
[00:15] <davidk> AlexGer: http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=297969
[00:15] <TheWonderingGuru> It only gave me the hour when I switched from %R to %I. I would like it to show up as for example 8:15pm
[00:16] <wxl> then you want %I:%M%p
[00:16] <AlexGer> this guy has ha way for ubuntu, but it isn't working at all ->
[00:16] <AlexGer> http://www.jansipke.nl/installing-xenserver-tools-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[00:16] <wxl> don't there there's lowercase am/pm
[00:16] <TheWonderingGuru> You are sincerely badass, thank you so much!
[00:16] <wxl> np
[00:17] <TheWonderingGuru> That has been annoying me for sooo long
[00:17] <TheWonderingGuru> lol
[00:17] <wxl> i read the "man date" ;0
[00:17] <davidk> TheWonderingGuru: 24 hours IS normal :P
[00:17] <wxl> i was going to say that davidk but i didn't XD
[00:17] <TheWonderingGuru> Normal if I was still in college, but it annoys the crap out of me.
[00:17] <TheWonderingGuru> lol
[00:17] <TheWonderingGuru> Like I know the times, but my mind automatically has to do a little math.
[00:18] <TheWonderingGuru> When I am in a rush doing 10 other things at once, I want to know what time it is at a glance.
[00:18] <davidk> TheWonderingGuru: over here we only use 24h digital clocks. it is now 02:18
[00:18] <wxl> i used to have a binary clock set up
[00:18] <wxl> now that's doing math
[00:18] <TheWonderingGuru> Intriguing.
[00:18] <TheWonderingGuru> Binary clock
[00:18] <TheWonderingGuru> how would that work like its 010010101 o clock or something?
[00:18] <wxl> http://binary.onlineclock.net/
[00:18] <davidk> wxl: it would be, but last I checked the "binary clock" only did decimal digits in binary, not the whole time
[00:19] <TheWonderingGuru> Now that is strange lol
[00:19] <TheWonderingGuru> Cool though!
[00:19] <davidk> wxl: better than the stuff I've seen for sale
[00:20] <TheWonderingGuru> I've been a distro hopper for awhile now and I am finding more and more that I am recommending Lubuntu for people seeking to make the switch to Linux.
[00:20] <wxl> ditto
[00:20] <wxl> i've pretty much gone and called it home
[00:20] <TheWonderingGuru> The fastest distro out there in my opinion, the only one that semi keeps up without much style is puppy linux or a custom built arch linux with lxde.
[00:20] <wxl> tho i did inadvertently get a friend hooked on bodhi ;)
[00:21] <wxl> puppy = barf
[00:21] <wxl> arch is the only other one i really like
[00:21] <davidk> yesterday I installed kubuntu for the first time
[00:21] <davidk> KDE crashed
[00:21] <TheWonderingGuru> I would love to give arch a real go, but I don't know the ins and outs of it like I do with debian based distros.
[00:21] <Unit193> Needed low? AntiX? SliTaz?
[00:21] <wxl> hahahahah
[00:21] <davidk> today I wanted to install lubuntu
[00:21] <davidk> installer crashed
[00:22] <davidk> this whole *ubuntu is not working for me so far :P
[00:22] <Unit193> Though, if this isn't support I suppose #lubuntu-offtopic would be better.
[00:22] <TheWonderingGuru> I did have an issue with the lubuntu installer once, scared the crap out of me. Which version did you try?
[00:22] <wxl> installer crashed? that's strange. how did you install, which version, etc.?
[00:22] <davidk> TheWonderingGuru: today the normal one, tomorrow the alternate one
[00:22] <TheWonderingGuru> 12.04?
[00:22] <wxl> iso to cd davidk ?
[00:22] <davidk> wxl: yes
[00:23] <wxl> assumedly you checked the md5?
[00:23] <davidk> wxl: no, but that is not the issue, works way too long
[00:23] <davidk> I'll check for you
[00:23] <wxl> what computer?
[00:24] <TheWonderingGuru> Honestly, with all ubuntu based distro releases, you want to give it a good 3-4 months for them to work out all of the issues. Im using version 11.10 and honestly its rock solid stable with absolutely no issues.
[00:24] <TheWonderingGuru> I would go with 11.10 if I were you.
[00:24] <TheWonderingGuru> double the honesty double the fun
[00:25] <wxl> checking release notes no obvious installer issues
[00:25] <TheWonderingGuru> sometimes I don't look at my sentences before I press enter lol.
[00:25] <davidk> wxl: md5 is ok
[00:25] <wxl> what did the crash report say?
[00:25] <davidk> wxl: Dell Latitude C510/C610
[00:26] <davidk> wxl: there is no report, X just crashes after finishing the copy process
[00:26] <TheWonderingGuru> Signing off, namaste everyone
[00:26] <wxl> Dell Studio XPS 1340,Alienware m17x has some problem on boot but assumedly that's unrelated
[00:26] <wxl> ta TheDrums
[00:26] <wxl> up
[00:26] <wxl> oh well
[00:26] <davidk> wxl: i386 version, REALLY old hardware
[00:26] <wxl> hm. there's plenty of people using 12.04 on old hardware
[00:26] <davidk> wait, I'll get the dmesg line from the log
[00:26] <wxl> heck, even the ppc guys are doing ok
[00:26] <wxl> that's a good idea
[00:27] <davidk> posted it here
[00:27] <davidk> about 8 hours ago
[00:27] <davidk>  "init: lightdm main process (8546) terminated with status 1"
[00:28] <wxl> so it's a process with starting lightdm
[00:28] <wxl> interesting
[00:28] <davidk> reproducable, tried it twice
[00:30] <AlexGer> lol can't apt get...
[00:31] <davidk> and now I'm off to bed. 2:30 is late enough. good night everyone.
[00:32] <AlexGer> davidk: thanks! good night
[03:34] <Guest73135> I'm insalling via usb and it seems to be stalled at 50%....do I cancell?
[03:35] <Guest73135> Anyone?
[03:39] <Guest73135> hello?
[03:42] <Guest73135> dammit, do I shut down and rety or not?
[03:42] <IAmNotThatGuy> Guest73135, What is the screen saying?
[03:42] <Unit193> How long have you waited?
[03:42] <IAmNotThatGuy> Is that stuck up with a certain package or is it just showing 50 % ?
[03:43] <Guest73135> 50% loaded and waiting for the past 20 mins
[03:43] <Guest73135> No hard drive light activity\
[03:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> Are you dual booting?
[03:44] <Guest73135> Yes
[03:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> 20 mins is way too much. Just try a reboot, do a checksum first and then proceed with the install from live USB
[03:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb. Showers
[03:45] <jmarsden> You could use Alt-F1 to Alt-F4 first to see if any consoles have useful error messages in them, before rebooting.
[03:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> Unit193, the table is all yours :)
[03:46] <Unit193> CTRL+alt+F1 - CTRL+alt+F4, and if you do reboot, there should be an option to check install media.
[03:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> jmarsden, I believe there might be a missing driver or something. Or else it will throw an error outside (AFAIK)
[03:46] <jmarsden> Yes, it really isn
[03:47] <jmarsden> 't supposed to hang like that... but you never know, there might be some useful info there in one of the text mode consoles... waiting isn't going to do anything useful, so after checking the consoles, a reboot seems a good idea.
[04:20] <IAmNotThatGuy> laters
[06:29] <xisorshadow> anyone alive over here? i need some help
[06:29] <Unit193> !ask
[06:29] <xisorshadow> lol
[06:29] <Unit193> Though, it is 230am :P
[06:29] <xisorshadow> how do i change the default environment from lxde, to xbmc?
[06:30] <xisorshadow> im on xbmcbuntu, which is built on lubuntu
[06:30] <xisorshadow> or at least make it so xbmc launches at startup automatically
[06:30] <xisorshadow> either way is perfectly fine
[06:32] <Unit193> Never seen xbmcbuntu, but are you looking for the "Session" section of the llogin screen?
[06:33] <xisorshadow> im not sure, i want it to automatically run xbmc session when it boots instead of lxde
[06:33] <xisorshadow> its a choice on the login screen, but how do i make it DEFAULT?
[06:33] <Unit193> What version of Ubuntu?
[06:33] <xisorshadow> 11. something
[06:33] <xisorshadow> 11.10 i think
[06:34] <xisorshadow> never used linux before XD
[06:34] <xisorshadow> xbmcbuntu is lubuntu with xbmc built in, its for using as a media center
[06:34] <valdur55> login screen remembers last choise
[06:34] <Unit193> So you should have LXDM? /etc/lxdm/ and there should be a config file in there.
[06:34] <xisorshadow> valdur55: really? will it also remember my password and auto log me in?
[08:43] <n1ckn4me09876543> how do I reuse a cd-rw in linux?  on Windows OS, all I do is go to My Computer, right click cd-rom, click ERASE THIS DISC then voila I can reuse the disc again
[08:47] <davidk> n1ckn4me09876543: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialCDBurn.html
[08:50] <n1ckn4me09876543> davidk: thnx, will look into it
[09:01] <AmberJ_> Anyone here using Lubuntu 12.04 on bare metal?
[09:01] <AmberJ_> I mean is it stable enough to install it on HDD? Or, are most people using it in a VM?
[09:02] <not_found> stable enough for sure
[09:02] <Unit193> It was released last month and all...
[09:03] <Unit193> Upgrade from 11.10 even went well.
[09:04] <AmberJ_> I won't be able to upgrade on this machine with slowish ~60kbps down throughput connection...
[09:04] <AmberJ_> But now that you guys say it, I can sure install from scratch
[09:04]  * AmberJ_ downloads lubuntu-12.04-amd64.iso
[09:05] <AmberJ_> Thanks not_found and Unit193 :)
[09:05] <Unit193> Yeppers.
[09:05] <not_found> AmberJ, enjoy :)
[09:12] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> Amber, no, better to go with xubuntu, lubuntu sucks snot on a hot sultry day
[09:18] <Unit193> KETCHUP_BOTTLE: Please don't do that. If you don't like it, make a blog post or something.
[09:19] <not_found> +1
[09:19] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> Unit193, does that apply to you too?  Should you make a blog post or "something"?
[09:20] <Unit193> If I didn't like Lubuntu, I'd part this channel.
[09:20] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> If you liked another ubuntu, you'd join it?
[09:21] <Unit193> Bashing other distros, this distro, or anyone is not acceptable here.
[09:22] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> Unit, you see it as bashing, I see it as advising
[09:22] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> I spent a good week trying to get Lubuntu working
[09:22] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> It's Lubuntu's choice to improve ir
[09:23] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> it
[09:23] <Unit193> It's working find for me and many others, so please don't do it again.
[09:23] <Unit193> Report bugs if there are errors.
[09:23] <Unit193> !bugs  | KETCHUP_BOTTLE
[09:23] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> Unit, so, oligarchy is strong in your neck of the woods?
[09:24] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> ok, I will abide
[09:24] <KETCHUP_BOTTLE> goodbye
[09:24] <Unit193> Thank you.
[09:24] <not_found> ah |:( was hoping to see a kick to the head
[09:24] <Unit193> Heh.
[09:25] <not_found> well handled sir :)
[09:25] <Unit193> Thanks.
[09:28] <AmberJ_> heh, trolls
[09:29] <AmberJ_> As if I was going to follow his advice to switch to another distro...
[09:29] <AmberJ_> "IF" 12.04 had, any problems, I would prefer to stick with 11.10 (which works fine on this laptop).
[09:32] <not_found> AmberJ, choice is yours :) but 12.04 is A-OK AFAIK
[09:36] <AmberJ_> I said "IF" it had any problems. Now that you say there aren't, I'll try installing it :)
[09:42] <not_found> :) well tell us how it went and if there was problems blame Unit193
[09:49] <AmberJ_> heh sure, I'll report here :)
[14:38] <leszek> hi
[14:38] <light_> is there an option for lubuntu when the computer lid close what the computer will do?
[14:38] <light_> hi leszek
[14:39] <diego> yes
[14:39] <diego> power management menu
[14:39] <leszek> light_: open up the xfce4-power-manager preferences
[14:39] <light_> ive found iot
[14:39] <light_> it*
[14:39] <light_> okay
[14:39] <light_> thanks
[14:39] <light_> ;P
[15:13] <theixle> I'm experiencing issues with tail command in lubuntu 12.04. I'm not sure it's related to lubuntu necessarily but I only am noticing it on this machine currently.
[15:14] <theixle> Can anyone suggest any good ways of determing what the problem could be? It seems really odd to have such a standard and prolific utility not work. Basically it's not updating regardless of using -F or -f
[15:15] <theixle> xtail works (just slowly without the -s option), and less -F works, but I need to display a file with ANSI color codes
[15:28] <diego> have you checked if there are open bugs?
[15:28] <theixle> I can't find anything reported.
[15:28] <theixle> Almost everyone's issues on the forums were from people having their file changed and not using -F
[16:14] <fw190> hello
[16:15] <fw190> I've got a question/problem
[16:15] <LordOfTime> so ask?
[16:15] <LordOfTime> !ask
[16:16] <fw190> I would like to install Lubuntu, but I have already installed Ubuntu and now I want to wipe the ubuntu and have only clean lubuntu when I paritioned my disk for ubuntu i made swap / and /home. Is there a clean way to wipe ubuntu, save my data and install lubuntu
[16:19] <EliahKagan> fw190: yes, you can do that -- just back up all your documents and important files to another drive (or cloud storage or email or another machine or something), then when run you run the Lubuntu installer, tell it to use the whole disk (not to "install alongside")
[16:20] <fw190> ah so this is the hard way
[16:20] <LordOfTime> fw190:  you could just install lubuntu-desktop and uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[16:20] <EliahKagan> however, you probably do not need to do that, since there is a technique for converting a regular Ubuntu system into a Lubuntu system (without the other stuff): first install the package called lubuntu-desktop, then do this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[16:20] <LordOfTime> ah yeah that'd work
[16:21] <EliahKagan> LordOfTime: well, uninstalling ubuntu-desktop doesn't always do the trick, because there are a lot of other packages installed with Ubuntu and unless you installed Ubuntu by manually installing ubuntu-desktop (and haven't subsequently installed other software manually that pulls in any of it as dependencies), they may not be marked as automatically installed (so they wouldn't be removed with apt-get autoremove)
[16:22] <LordOfTime> EliahKagan:  if you use purge it will, in 75% of times.
[16:22] <fw190> so now I'm confused- two opinions ;)
[16:22] <fw190> to sum up. I install lubuntu-desktop
[16:23] <LordOfTime> fw190:  use EliahKagan's recommendation
[16:23] <LordOfTime> not mine
[16:23] <fw190> and then do the thingie from the link provided
[16:23] <fw190> and this will lead me to a celan lubuntu
[16:23] <fw190> or other programs installed wil stay?
[16:28] <fw190> I'm preparing an image on pendrive would it be possible to install it like I did with ubuntu - I remenber that there was an option to overwrite ubuntu with ubuntu. Is ther an option to overwrite ubuntu with lubuntu?
[16:28] <LordOfTime> overwrite may overwrite the important stuff
[16:28] <LordOfTime> i'd back up your /home stuff before messing with what is or isnt on the system anyways
[16:28] <LordOfTime> just because
[16:30] <fw190> ok. it seems to me that I will end up wiht backing up 250GB of data anyway. Tahnk you for helping and answers given. All the best
[16:30] <LordOfTime> well i recommend backups anyways regardless
[16:30] <LordOfTime> because that's what technicians do
[16:30] <LordOfTime> heck, i make weekly backups of my home directories :P
[16:30] <EliahKagan> LordOfTime: using purge or --purge never changes what packages get removed by an autoremove; the only difference between remove and purge is that purge removes systemwide configuration files
[16:31] <EliahKagan> i think you may have just gotten lucky and had everything you wanted gone marked as installed automatically as dependencies of the metapackage you removed
[16:31] <EliahKagan> backups are good
[16:31] <LordOfTime> EliahKagan:  aptitude seems to do that well :P
[16:31]  * LordOfTime uses aptitude almost exclusively
[16:31] <LordOfTime> having said this, 95% of the time im' in CLI regardless of DE, so... :P
[16:31] <EliahKagan> that's a good point...i use apt-get most of the time
[16:32] <LordOfTime> yeah, for installing apt-get's pretty decent
[16:32] <LordOfTime> some reason i like aptitude though *shrugs*
[17:28] <pcroque> If I upgrade 11.10 to 12.04 will files in ~/.config get overwritten (autostart, lubuntu-rc.xml, etc)?
[17:30] <Unit193> Shouldn't, but always good to backup.
[17:31] <LordOfTime> ^ that
[17:31] <pcroque> Thanks. Yes...I'll backup the backup!
[17:34] <pcroque> I'm looking forward to a smooth and painless upgrade...not that that ever happened for me with Ubuntu...but hoping Lubuntu is different.
[17:36] <Unit193> Same core, just with LXDE and different default programs and settings.  It did go well for me though.
[17:38] <pcroque> Good to hear it. Lubuntu is the greatest!
[17:49] <tata> I have Lubuntu 10.04, how can I watch tv live on internet?
[17:49] <smile4linux> Of course! :)
[17:49] <smile4linux> with flash? :p
[17:49] <smile4linux> :)
[17:50] <tata> ???
[17:50] <smile4linux> tata: find a website with online tv & you will able to play it with adobe flash player :)
[17:52] <tata> its not work, told me, I need to instal something like video stream or something like this
[17:53] <holstein> tata: if it has a proprietary player that is not made to work with linux, it wont work
[17:54] <holstein> its likely just flash though, as smile4linux suggests... i would try installing the chrome browser, and go from there... https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[17:55] <smile4linux> chromium or firefox, tata ? :p
[17:55] <holstein> i suggest chrome as a troubleshooting step since it has the most current version of flash available for linux AFAIK
[17:56] <tata> sea monkey 2.0., it is mozilla
[17:56] <Unit193> Also, I've been recommending to purge flashplugin-installer, adding !partner repo, and installing adobe-flashplugin.
[17:57] <holstein> Unit193: good idea!
[17:57] <smile4linux> tata: maybe that's the cause of your problem (your browser)
[17:58] <tata> maybe
[17:59] <tata> I delete chromium two years ago and install seamonkey
[18:00] <holstein> tata: chromiumm wont have current flash
[18:01] <holstein> tata: to get current flash, you can try chrome, or do what Unit193 suggests
[18:01] <holstein> tata: it is *not* the browser anyways... its the flash version
[18:01] <holstein> if flash is involved, and something is funky, its flash that is the issue
[18:02] <EliahKagan> Chrome and Chromium are different -- Chrome is proprietary and has Adobe Flash built in, and it generally is the latest version
[18:02] <tata> ok i will
[18:03] <holstein> im not suggesting you switch to the chrome browser tata , im just saying that *if* you install it for testing puproses, and your TV works, then its safe to assume its flash
[19:07] <rns> hey?
[19:09] <rns> I installed (?) qcad. Can't find it on the menu. Now what?
[19:10] <bioterror> dpkg -L qcad
[19:10] <bioterror> it will show you where the binary is installed
[19:10] <Unit193> It's a meta, librecad is the real one.
[19:19] <rns> ok. meta? that's over my head.
[19:20] <rns> dpkq -L qcad .... that's in the terminal?
[19:23] <rns> So how do I start it? How do I get it on the menu?
[22:26] <daswort> Is it right that lubuntu has only 3 y support? Why is it so? Doesn't use lubuntu the official repos of ubuntu?
[22:37] <GridCube> daswort, lubuntu has no lts
[22:38] <GridCube> not even 3 years


[22:07] <dmj_s76> andyrock: thanks for helping with the hidpi scaling issue.  Let me know when it lands and there's test packages.  Looking forward to the SRU for xenial/yakkety.


[00:03] <valorie> doodled, commented on the phab -- would like to see yofel, ahoneybun, mparillo, clivejo there too
[00:03] <valorie> anyway, off to dinner for now
[00:05] <ahoneybun> Well I'm kinda busy driving across the country and going to look at apartments
 I know my dear. How's it going?
 It's going
 Still have 850 or so miles to go
 Stopping for the night
 (Location, lon: -94.198671, lat: 39.019114)
[18:18] <clivejo> I'm not KC
[18:21] <acheronuk> clivejo: You have been, you are as close to dammit being there to make no difference, and your views would be greatly valued in any such meeting :P
[18:21] <clivejo> I'm out of the loop at the moment
[18:22] <IrcsomeBot1> * tsimonq2 throws clivejo for a loop
[18:22]  * clivejo is busy building a wall
 Is Neon going to pay for it?
[18:23] <clivejo> its mostly recycled stuff
[18:23] <clivejo> I took down a wall elsewhere thats not needed
 Environmentally friendly!
[18:24] <clivejo> power washed and knocked off the old mortor
[18:25] <clivejo> plus I'm trying to get my car back on the road
[18:25] <clivejo> think I found someone to do the body waork
 That's good!
[18:26] <clivejo> yeah, not enjoying my aunts sewing machine
[18:27] <clivejo> plus Max wont fit in the boot/trunk
 Aww :P
[18:28] <clivejo> its coming up to his 2nd birthday :)
[19:08] <valorie> happy birthday lil puppy Max!
[19:08] <tsimonq2> ^
[19:25] <clivejo> grrrr I hate Google
[19:26] <clivejo> the people reviewing edits are so bloody stupid!
[20:21] <acheronuk> so what wallpapers still don't have ok copyright now?
[20:22] <valorie> oh, I'll check those two without
[20:22] <valorie> glencoe falls is still all rights reserved
[20:24] <valorie> hair has been fixed
[20:24] <valorie> so glencoe falls can't be included
[20:24] <valorie> all others are OK
[20:26] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-next/+archive/ubuntu/daily-lxqt-builds/+packages
 Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: The UBports project is excited to announce the immediate availability of Ubuntu Touch 15.04 OTA-2. … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-2-release-78
[21:42] <acheronuk> valorie: and the bunny?
[21:44] <valorie> the bunny must have been removed from the contest
[21:44] <valorie> because I've not found it
[21:44] <valorie> have you seen it since we've been checking?
[21:45] <acheronuk> nope
[21:45] <acheronuk> but I did have rabbit burger a few weeks back. yum
[21:45] <valorie> lol
[21:45] <valorie> well, taht counts obv.
[21:46] <acheronuk> should have taken a pic


[02:40] <BobJonkman> Want to come to the SysAdminDay Ubuntu Hour? Help choose a venue: http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2014/07/15/system-administrator-appreciation-day-dinner-2014-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-72572


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Ne_zB0tuo
 Had to bail on watching that, as my mind went into 'pink overload'!
 Lol
 https://twitter.com/rikmills88/status/1506616024132640773
 I am bored and in a sarcastic mood today :P
 That's fair
 Lol
[20:11] <valorie> emma is awesome tho!
[20:11] <valorie> she does love pink -- a LOT


[00:08] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Regressed in release on arm*
[03:06] <slangasek> tsimonq2: unfortunately, those retest logs show nodejs was installed from -proposed anyway despite not being requested
[03:06] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Gah. How'd that happen? :/.
[03:07] <slangasek> tsimonq2: not clear to me from the logs why it happened in this case
[03:08] <slangasek> but I know of other cases where it could happen by design, which is why I was checking logs for versions
[03:08] <tsimonq2> I didn't know that could happen, which is why I didn't bother...
[03:12] <tsimonq2> I'll retry when I can; I'm feeling a bit sick so I might call it early tonight...
[05:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted javatools [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [0.63]
[05:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deepin-movie-reborn [sync] (bionic-proposed) [3.2.3-2]
[05:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-certbot-dns-digitalocean [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.22.0-1]
[05:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-certbot-dns-google [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.22.0-1]
[05:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-certbot-dns-cloudflare [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.22.0-1]
[05:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-certbot-dns-rfc2136 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.22.0-1]
[05:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-certbot-dns-dnsimple [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.22.0-1]
[05:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-certbot-dns-google [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.22.0-1] (no packageset)
[05:05] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: I'll have a look at libphobos
[05:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: deepin-movie-reborn [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.2.3-2] (no packageset)
[05:07] <doko> LocutusOfBorg, jamespage: why do you package msgpack 0.5.4 when 0.5.6 is available?
[05:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: deepin-movie-reborn [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.2.3-2] (no packageset)
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[05:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-certbot-dns-google [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [0.22.0-1]
[06:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: openjdk-lts (bionic-proposed/primary) [9.0.4+12-2ubuntu4]
[06:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-lts [source] (bionic-proposed) [9.0.4+12-2ubuntu4]
[06:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deepin-movie-reborn [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [3.2.3-2]
[06:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deepin-movie-reborn [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [3.2.3-2]
[06:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deepin-movie-reborn [i386] (bionic-proposed) [3.2.3-2]
[07:56] <tsimonq2> I wonder if c-cycle could be created in Launchpad so I can start targeting bugs at it.
[08:03] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Hum, what came out of the discussion wrt axing src:gcompris?
[08:34] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: (you're in a more convenient timezone right now so...) could I please get node-define-property demoted to bionic-proposed? Debian bug 892656, https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/upload-testing/+sourcepub/8878227/+listing-archive-extra : it's FTBFS no-change rebuilding against only packages in release, and its failing autopkgtests are blocking nodejs' migration.
[08:34] <tsimonq2> (dunno if "more convenient" is the right phrase but it works I guess :P)
[08:42] <tsimonq2> Something might be wrong, this seems stuck: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running
[08:43] <tsimonq2> I doubt many people are around right now but if someone is, it'd be good if that could be looked at.
[10:18] <doko> Laney: there seems to be a bug for the openjdk-lts upload (just a source rename from openjdk-9, but building the same openjdk-9-* packages). the tests were started once the source was published, while all builds were still running
[10:49] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, there is something weird on new releases, e.g. https://github.com/msgpack/msgpack-python/commit/da902f9c1d996fb461f1efef6487ef40d32d365a
[10:50] <LocutusOfBorg> they are fixed in 0.5.6, but it is a risky move to update right now, specially because it broke already reverse-deps in Debian, and my upload is trying to fix the mess
[10:50] <LocutusOfBorg> we can sync once debian updates it too
[10:51] <LocutusOfBorg> if you want to update, you are free to do it, it is a trivial update, but I don't take responsibility for the breakage that might happen :)
[10:51] <LocutusOfBorg> right now I want the package to have the same name as in Debian
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg> if you tell me "I accept only if you update", then I'll comply with the request
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-msgpack [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.5.4-0ubuntu2]
[12:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: binutils [i386] (bionic-proposed/main) [2.30-9ubuntu1] (core)
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: binutils [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [2.30-9ubuntu1] (core)
[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted binutils [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2.30-9ubuntu1]
[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted binutils [i386] (bionic-proposed) [2.30-9ubuntu1]
[13:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: lexicon (bionic-proposed/primary) [2.1.21-1]
[14:10] <tsimonq2> Evil ginggs is evil and synced nodejs again for me, in my name. :P
[14:11] <tsimonq2> Although it'd be cool if the runners would unstick...
[14:12] <tsimonq2> slangasek, Laney: autopkgtest runners need looking, if either of youare around.
[15:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wxwidgets3.0 [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.4+dfsg-2] (kubuntu)
[15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wxwidgets3.0 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.4+dfsg-2] (kubuntu)
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wxwidgets3.0 [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.4+dfsg-2] (kubuntu)
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wxwidgets3.0 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.4+dfsg-2] (kubuntu)
[15:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wxwidgets3.0 [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.4+dfsg-2] (kubuntu)
[15:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wxwidgets3.0 [armhf] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.4+dfsg-2] (kubuntu)
[18:11] <tsimonq2> autopkgtesters are still at a standstill
[18:11] <tsimonq2> Queues are approaching 700 or 800 an arch
[18:13] <tsimonq2> (and they've been this way for at least 10 hours...)
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wxwidgets3.0 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg-2]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wxwidgets3.0 [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg-2]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wxwidgets3.0 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg-2]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wxwidgets3.0 [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg-2]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wxwidgets3.0 [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg-2]
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wxwidgets3.0 [i386] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg-2]
[20:33] <slangasek> tsimonq2: I don't see any evidence that the runners were at a standstill for any significant period; the internal graphs I'm looking at show ppc64el underperforming, but all archs are working through the backlog
[20:34] <jbicha> slangasek: there are some oddities
[20:34] <jbicha> for instance, the numbers are going down at https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running but the currently running tests isn't accurate
[20:35] <slangasek> not accurate how?
[20:35] <jbicha> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/alt-ergo/bionic/amd64 should show a result for glib2.0 2.56.0-4ubuntu1
[20:35] <ginggs> yup, and 'Recent run tests' http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/ seems out of date
[20:35] <slangasek> well.  certainly the claim that there are only two currently running tests is inconsistent with the queues going down
[20:35] <jbicha> not accurate > "there are more tests running right now that just node-commander"
[20:37] <slangasek> recent run tests> I've never looked at the code for that (and hardly ever use the page); I'll try to figure out the problem with current status first
[20:47] <slangasek> jbicha, ginggs, tsimonq2: the web node ran out of disk space.  queues were proceeding normally
[20:48] <slangasek> hey wouldn't it be great if old kernels were autoremoved
[20:48] <ginggs> slangasek: thanks
[20:48] <jbicha> slangasek: some day we'll fix that autoremove kernel bug for good
[20:49] <slangasek> jbicha: I'm basically trolling any Foundations folks who are reading, because fixing that bug is top of the list for this cycle
[20:49] <jbicha> it was fixed multiple times already, right?
[20:49] <slangasek> it was never fixed to where unattended-upgrades would also autoremove
[20:49] <slangasek> that's the missing bit
[20:50] <jbicha> ok cool
[20:52] <jbicha> maybe you can review LP: #1758740 ?
[20:55]  * mwhudson waves at slangasek so he doesn't think his troll was wasted
[20:55] <slangasek> :)
[20:59] <slangasek> doko: what's the story with gcj-jdk going NBS?  It's very much still used in bionic
[20:59] <slangasek> doko: (and e.g. causes automake-1.15 autopkgtests to fail currently)
[21:19] <ginggs> slangasek: re autopkgtest quoting rules in your upload of node-mapnik, do you know what changed? node-archy is affected too.
[22:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gitlab-ci-multi-runner [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [10.5.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
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[23:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gitlab-ci-multi-runner [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [10.5.0+dfsg-2]
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[23:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lexicon [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2.1.21-1]
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[01:29]  * AngelForget is away: Sono occupato
[02:28] <tweakste1> does Lubuntu also allow encrypting the /home partition after installation?
[03:24] <holstein> tweakste1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148681/encrypting-home-directory-on-12-04
[03:24] <holstein> wow... missed em' by *that* much
[03:56] <TransX2> I have an old Athlon XP Palemino based PC with an IDE HDD and some mobo I can't identify. I'm trying to install Lubuntu, I go through the setup and it starts copying files and then the install window goes away and it just sits at the desktop and the mouse indefinitely spins.
[03:56] <TransX2> So I end up restarting it and it gets stuck at "Searching for  boot recors from IDE 0...OK"
[03:56] <TransX2> and never boots into Lubuntu
[03:57] <TransX2> I've tryed resetting the BIOS and reinstalling multiple times
[03:59] <TransX2> Any suggestions?
[04:47] <bioterror> TransX2, try using the Alternate CD?
[10:49] <leszek> hi
[15:58] <danno_> can anyone tell me why programs that are running would suddenly stop appearing in the taskbar?
[16:00] <holstein> danno_: maybe you are on a diffrent workspace? the panel crashed? the applet showing running applicatios crashed?
[16:00] <holstein> what programs? how suddenly?
[16:01] <danno_> they were showing in the taskbar until a few hours ago. i can still alt-tab between the running tasks but they dont show in the taskbar any more
[16:01] <holstein> danno_: and you are on the same workspace?
[16:02] <danno_> as far as i know
[16:02] <holstein> i believe the default behavior of the panel applet is to show whats running on the current workspace
[16:02] <holstein> danno_: you can hit control and alt and the left/right arrow keys and see where you are
[16:02] <holstein> one thing i do is have the applet show applications from all workspaces
[16:03] <danno_> yeah im definitley on the right workspace
[16:03] <holstein> danno_: what applications?
[16:03] <danno_> any. it doesnt matter what i run, it will not show in the taskbar
[16:04] <holstein> danno_: maybe you have just removed the applet that shows them
[16:04] <holstein> danno_: them *never* showing is quite diffent than them disappearing.. which do you think is the case?
[16:04] <danno_> its possible as im by no means a power user. how would i replace it if i have
[16:05] <holstein> danno_: you can right click on the panel and add things back.. you can login as guest and see what is what.. or you can always boot a live cd and play around adding and removing things without worrying about breaking functionality
[16:12] <danno_> i dont know what to add in to correct this though. its quite likely my own fault but i havent a clue how i did it
[16:13] <holstein> danno_: sure.. i typically just add a panel and play around adding everything and learning what is what.. or i login as either the guest user or a new user i create for learning purposes
[16:13] <holstein> or, i fire up the live CD and play around removing and adding things to the panel
[16:13] <holstein> by one of these methods i learn what it is that i want to have and the functionality i want
[16:14] <danno_> i realise this might be a hacks way of doing it but would simply deleting my user account and creating a new one correct this?
[16:15] <holstein> danno_: you can just remove things from your /home directory relating to the configuration of the panel
[16:15] <holstein> danno_: i wouldnt remove the user account you are using
[16:15] <holstein> danno_: i would literally just make a panel.. add things and learn what they do
[16:16] <holstein> danno_: i would tell you if i had lxpanel runing in front of me, but i dont
[16:16] <holstein> danno_: i assure you it'll be something like "application list" or "switcher" something somewhat obvious
[16:17] <holstein> i would like to go on record as saying again... i wouldnd remove the user account.. just config files in the /home directory that i would have backed up somewhere
[16:17] <holstein> woudnt*. like, i wouldnt not remove the user account
[16:59] <fredmattera> Afternoon
[17:00] <fredmattera> I am having a problem with my mouse curser freezing after my system is running for a short time.
[17:02] <holstein> fredmattera: i would just try some different kernels.. even with live CD's
[17:03] <fredmattera> I have to admit this is the first time this has happened.
[17:03] <fredmattera> I used the live CD
[17:04] <fredmattera> plus i did the install prior and had the same problem
[17:05] <holstein> fredmattera: it'll just be a matter of troubleshooting.. i would try to get to tty and see if the machine is locked up or just the mouse
[17:05] <holstein> i would try some USB hardware mouse
[17:05] <holstein> i would try different kernels
[17:05] <fredmattera> ran it from a usb key and a portable drive and had the same problem on both
[17:05] <holstein> fredmattera: sure, and thats the same kernel that you installed, which makes sense, but you dont konw what is locked, up correct?
[17:05] <holstein> fredmattera: can you get to TTY?
[17:05] <fredmattera> tried the usb mouse and built in mouse pad
[17:06] <holstein> fredmattera: and?.. are both locked up?
[17:06] <fredmattera> yes bothtty
[17:06] <fredmattera> both
[17:06] <holstein> if the system is locked up, then its not likely the mouse then.. it could be *anything*
[17:06] <holstein> fredmattera: i would try to get to TTY
[17:06] <fredmattera> tty?
[17:06] <holstein> !tty
[17:07] <holstein> if you can get to a TTY, then the machine is not locked up
[17:07] <fredmattera> oh i see
[17:07] <holstein> if you cant, then its likely the machine is locked up, in which case, you can stop saying "the cursor is locked up"
[17:07] <holstein> you can say "the machine is locked up" and you dont know what it is
[17:07] <fredmattera> true
[17:08] <holstein> the latter scanario can have *nothing* to do with the mouse in any way
[17:08] <fredmattera> i noticed my torrent download froze also
[17:08] <holstein> fredmattera: i would just do *nothing*
[17:08] <holstein> let the machine run overnight
[17:08] <holstein> maybe run top in a terminal
[17:08] <holstein> then, if its when you are running that torrent application, that could be it
[17:08] <holstein> when/if it locks, try TTY
[17:08] <fredmattera> well its a toshiba netbook NB205
[17:09] <fredmattera> k
[17:09] <fredmattera> did it whn i ran the torrent application and at another time when i was using the update manager
[17:10] <holstein> fredmattera: still, not enough information to go on for me.. unless you tried TTY
[17:10] <wxl> does it lock up or does the mouse not respond?
[17:10] <holstein> sometimes if im expecting issues, i'll run ssh on the machine, so i can log in
[17:11] <holstein> if you can ssh in, then its likely just the mouse not responding... otherwise, its something more serious
[17:11] <fredmattera> thanks for the info on the tty sounds promising also. will also try the ssh if i dont resolve it.
[17:11] <holstein> you can poke around in a system log or two as well, but i would just wait til it happens again
[17:11] <wxl> ↑ i ask because i occassionally get a malfunctioning trackpad upon high cpu usage on my eepc netbook and switching from tty and back fixes it
[17:12] <holstein> if its something that is ocking up the machine, and im worried about breaking the hard drive, i might trouble shoot using a live CD
[17:12] <holstein> locking*
[17:12] <holstein> can be more trouble than its worth getting to the hard drive in those netbooks though
[17:12] <fredmattera> haha
[17:13] <holstein> i like to unplug hard drives though when i know im going to be forcing the power off
[17:13] <fredmattera> I have run lubuntu, ubuntu arch linux and a ton of others
[17:13] <holstein> lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[17:13] <fredmattera> yes i know
[17:14] <fredmattera> i run it because i dont like the full version of ubuntu. darn window or menu takes up the screen and cant play full screen games
[17:17] <fredmattera> that menu that comes up usually on the left side of the screen
[17:19] <fredmattera> thanks for eveyones input
[19:51] <no_gravity> Hello! Under Ubuntu I was able to navigate the main menu with keys. For example I opened the internet submenu. Is it possible to make this work under lubuntu?
[19:53] <bioterror> what do you mean
[19:53] <bioterror> you mean this "unity" menu
[19:53] <bioterror> +
[19:53] <bioterror> ?
[19:53] <no_gravity> bioterror: no, i never used unity. i hate it.
[19:53] <no_gravity> bioterror: i mean ubuntu 10.
[19:54] <bioterror> so you mean this "start" kind of menu
[19:54] <bioterror> applications
[19:54] <no_gravity> bioterror: yes, i think so. it opens up when i hit ALT+F1
[19:54] <no_gravity> /set show_nickmode_empty off
[19:54] <bioterror> that's a good command
[19:55] <bioterror> was it alt+esc or what in lubuntu
[19:55] <bioterror> or was it ctrl+f1 :-)
[19:55] <no_gravity> bioterror: what?
[19:55] <no_gravity> bioterror: in lubuntu its also ALT+F1
[19:56] <bioterror> so what you are after then?
[19:57] <no_gravity> bioterror: after i opened the menu, i want to navigate it with keys. for example "ic" would open chrome because "i" brings you to the "internet" submenu and "c" starts chrome. thats how it worked in ubuntu 10.
[19:57] <bioterror> now you have to use arrow keys
[19:58] <no_gravity> bioterror: which is so much slower
[19:58] <bioterror> that's why I use alt+f2 and type what ever I need
[19:59] <no_gravity> bioterror: thats also much slower
[19:59] <no_gravity> bioterror: and you have to remember everything
[19:59] <bioterror> 1st world problems
[20:00] <no_gravity> bioterror: so the ubuntu 10 menu was part of gnome and i cannot get it under lubuntu?
[20:00] <bioterror> no you do not get it under lubuntu
[20:00] <bioterror> I will guide you to use Mate desktop then
[20:00] <bioterror> it's a fork of gnome 2
[20:01] <no_gravity> bioterror: never heard of it.
[20:01] <bioterror> it might give you back those precious half seconds you're after
[20:01] <bioterror> http://mate-desktop.org/
[20:02] <no_gravity> bioterror: thanks. might try it after i finished evaluating lubuntu.
[20:03] <no_gravity> bioterror: another thing that makes me crazy is that in the task-bar i cannot place the mouse on the bottom of the screen and click on an application. i have to move the mouse up again a little bit.
[20:04] <no_gravity> is there a way to fix that?
[20:05] <bioterror> well, I'm a tint2 user
[20:05] <no_gravity> whats that?
[20:05] <bioterror> taskbar
[20:06] <no_gravity> bioterror: how is it better then the default one?
[20:06] <bioterror> it let's me change window order
[20:07] <no_gravity> bioterror: aarrrggghhh... now that you say it, i see that its not possible in lubuntu.
[20:07] <no_gravity> cannot live without it.
[20:07] <no_gravity> ubuntu 10 really was the best os ever. its so sad that its gone.
[20:09] <bioterror> I would really suggest to look OS that supports Mate
[20:09] <bioterror> SalixOS is one of my favourites
[20:09] <bioterror> Mint is a huge Mate supporter
[20:10]  * no_gravity goes to download mint
[20:10] <no_gravity> but i have to say that lubuntu really feels snappy. im a bit sad to trash it.
[20:12] <no_gravity> bioterror: you use tint2 under lubuntu?
[20:12] <bioterror> sometimes
[20:13] <no_gravity> so i would do "apt-get remove lxpanel;apt-get install tint2"?
[20:13] <bioterror> well, tint2 requires some configurations
[20:14] <bioterror> https://launchpad.net/~killeroid/+archive/ppa
[20:14] <no_gravity> oh
[20:15] <bioterror> svn has launcher
[20:15] <bioterror> it's nice
[20:15] <bioterror> but that's what I like to use
[20:15] <bioterror> there's own limitations and so on
[20:16] <bioterror> but if lubuntu feels snappy and some how usable, I would give it a longer shot and ponder if that's for you
[20:16] <bioterror> you might loose some functions, but it will give something back instead then
[20:18] <no_gravity> yeah, i will try it for a couple of days


[19:19] <Ubuntubruger0> Hej
[21:49] <yann> hi - could anyone enlighten myself on a danish gammatical issue to sort out a translation file ?
[21:50] <nikolaj_basher> yann, whats your problem
[21:51] <yann> I have translated source text (from Qt/Extended packages), with several plural variants, but the Qt tools are set up to only handle one plural form for danish
[21:51] <yann> which one is right ?
[21:52] <yann> example source text is "%1 missed", with translations "%1 ubesvaret" and "%1 ubesvarede", the 2nd one being stripped out
[21:55] <yann> nikolaj_basher: does that make any sense at all ?
[22:00] <nikolaj_basher> yann, 2sek
[22:01] <nikolaj_basher> yann, thats right


 https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1299514/ (re @philipz: what is the name of the package to get this?)
 Also had to add an alias for neofetch into bash as for some reason Xubuntu shows the stock Ubuntu icon even though it has its own ASCII art available in neofetch (re @philipz: what is the name of the package to get this?)
 Odd
 thanks. for it to get into xubuntu, it would have to be in the ubuntu repo :D (re @troyBORG: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1299514/)
 yep this was a problem with all flavors and was recently fixed https://github.com/dylanaraps/neofetch/issues/1505 (re @troyBORG: Also had to add an alias for neofetch into bash as for some reason Xubuntu shows the stock Ubuntu icon even though it has its own ASCII art available in neofetch)
 ^^^^
 I don’t think it’s worth sruing
 was curious if the boothole fixes will make it into the 20.04.1 ISO on the 6th
 ooh
 god
 idk
 prob will from deban


[00:56] <littlegirl> The Launchpad Bazaar server for the Ubuntu core docs seems to be down. I'm getting a 503 error. Is it just me or is it that way for you guys, too? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc


[03:33] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: debian is much easier to install than when last I tried
[03:33]  * OvenWerks has a 32 bit laptop with lots of life left
[03:36] <OvenWerks> there is no lowlatency kernel, so I have rt.
[03:36] <OvenWerks> The ubuntu studio-controls package works fine.
[03:37] <OvenWerks> I should try carla next I guess
[03:52] <teward> Eickmeyer: you have things written on your wiki :p
[13:46] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: done on the wiki
[13:48] <RikMills> teward: the application link on the DMB agenda is broken
[13:49] <teward> eickmeyer failed to fix it lol
[13:49] <teward> anyone can edit that page if you want to stealth fix it RikMills
[13:51] <RikMills> teward: done
[14:48] <Eickmeyer> RikMills, teward: Thanks guys!
[14:48] <RikMills> better 'last minute than never'
[14:48] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Ha! Indeed. :)
 Eickmeyer: though... there's stipulations with that endorsement :P
 @teward001 [Eickmeyer: though... there's stipulations with that endorsement :P], Yes, I saw that.
[14:51] <teward> no you didn't see PM :P
[14:51] <teward> (on IRC)
[14:54] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: now how good are you at symbols files ;)
[14:56] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Oof. haha
 lol
[16:19]  * RikMills cheers
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Let me know if you need help with stuff. As you know, your work with Kubuntu benefits both flavors, and now that is even more beneficial.
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> Because now I can work on both.
 anything that is in Main though Eickmeyer's MOTU won't touch so you'd need to poke me :P
[16:22] <Eickmeyer> teward: Of course.
[16:22] <Eickmeyer> Though, most of the KDE/Plasma packages are in Universe. I can't imagine many being in main if at all.
[16:22]  * RikMills ponders a core-dev application


 Good Evening (morning, afternoon, night depending on your 20) I have tried everyway that I know how to run netflix on Kubuntu. I have tried to run pipelight and i have tried to install the ubuntu desktop app for it and I have tried tricking it into thinking i am running windows. Can anyone who is running Kubuntu 14.04 send me to a link or walk me through on how to
[01:41] <m1kehoax> succesfully run netflix?
[02:06] <LinusTorvaldII> hmmm does kubuntu have the equivalent of what ubuntu calls "ubuntu restricted extras" in its repository??
[02:13] <m1kehoax> LinusTorvaldII I do belive it does
[02:18] <LinusTorvaldII> why did u ctcp ping me
[02:19] <m1kehoax> Sorry I am just learning irc. I didnt mean to pester you.
[02:19] <LinusTorvaldII> doesnt pester me  just wondered why
[02:20] <m1kehoax> What does it do?
[02:20] <LinusTorvaldII> btw didu try installed that pkg  i meantioned?
[02:20] <LinusTorvaldII> mentioned?
[02:20] <LinusTorvaldII> in ubuntu that pgk makes a lot of stuff work.
[02:20] <LinusTorvaldII> has codecs and stuff in there
[02:21] <m1kehoax> Let me look and see if I have it installed.
[02:21] <m1kehoax> Is that something that is already going to be installed or do I need to add it?
[02:22] <LinusTorvaldII> well tbh in ubuntu u have to add it - i am not sure in kubuntu thats why i asked if they had the equivalent in kubuntu-
[02:23] <LinusTorvaldII> i was hoping someone here who uses it would chime in by now
[02:23] <m1kehoax> I think I saw something like that before but I do not rememebr where I found it.
[02:23] <LinusTorvaldII> i was using it but tbh it wasnt as easy to get stuff working as ubuntu
[02:23] <LinusTorvaldII> i was having a hrad time finding stuff in kubuntu
[02:23] <LinusTorvaldII> hard*
[02:24] <m1kehoax> Well I am not married to Kubuntu I just liked the way it looked maybe I should just start over with Ubuntu? It does seem like there is a lot more info on ubuntu
[02:25] <LinusTorvaldII> also - if u cannot get the answers u want here linux mint which is ubuntu and does have kde which is just kubuntu - that project ddoes attempt to put ALL codecs and drivers in for u
[02:25] <m1kehoax> I was already thinking of wiping it out and starting over with something different
[02:25] <m1kehoax> I wanted to look at linux mint but could not get it to install properly
[02:25] <LinusTorvaldII> well for me everything work straight away in ubuntu with that pkd installed
[02:26] <LinusTorvaldII> try this
[02:26] <LinusTorvaldII> look in kubuntu software center
[02:26] <LinusTorvaldII> type in the word restricted
[02:26] <LinusTorvaldII> see if it comes up
[02:27] <LinusTorvaldII> or...in a terminal...i think the command was like....sudo apt-get install _____________restrictedextras
[02:29] <LinusTorvaldII> if they have it in the software center should come up when u type in something like restrcted extras
[02:29] <m1kehoax> I tried to install it, I guess I alreadyy have now I just hae to find it!
[02:30] <LinusTorvaldII> well ifu already installed it then the codecs are installed
[02:30] <m1kehoax> ok
[02:30] <LinusTorvaldII> have u tried netflix since that
[02:31] <LinusTorvaldII> how do u know  u already installed it?
[02:31] <LinusTorvaldII> in software center there is usually an option showing installed software
[02:31] <LinusTorvaldII> u can look there
[02:31] <LinusTorvaldII> its near top of menu
[02:32] <m1kehoax> When I tried to install it i gt this message "kubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version."
[02:32] <LinusTorvaldII> ok
[02:33] <LinusTorvaldII> ru fully uptodate?
[02:34] <m1kehoax> I think I am up to dayte. I ran sudo apt-get update this afternoon.
[02:34] <LinusTorvaldII> u can open terminal and run    sudo apt-get upgrade     let it run     then sudo apt-get update
[02:34] <m1kehoax> I am in my software center and I am not finding the restricted extras
[02:34] <LinusTorvaldII> type in search the work kubuntu
[02:34] <LinusTorvaldII> word*
[02:35] <LinusTorvaldII> or restricted
[02:35] <LinusTorvaldII> or extras
[02:35] <LinusTorvaldII> or all of em
[02:35] <m1kehoax> I tried both of those and nothing came up.
[02:35] <LinusTorvaldII> or look where it says "installed software"
[02:35] <LinusTorvaldII> otherwise try in the terminal to get it
[02:36] <m1kehoax> I found where I installed ubuntus reistricted extras but I guess it doesn't cross over. I am going to keep looking for the kubuntu
[02:36] <LinusTorvaldII> ima ask in ubuntu
[02:37] <m1kehoax> thanks for all of your help
[02:38] <LinusTorvaldII> in ubuntu they say itssupposed to work
[02:38] <LinusTorvaldII> ru sure it is installed?
[02:38] <LinusTorvaldII> u seemd a lil vague
[02:39] <LinusTorvaldII> lemme ask u this: can u go to youtube and play a video there?
[02:40] <m1kehoax> Yes I found that I do have it installed. I can play youtube vids
[02:41] <LinusTorvaldII> hmmm
[02:41] <LinusTorvaldII> but u cannot play amovie in netfilx
[02:41] <LinusTorvaldII> wtf
[02:41] <m1kehoax> No it tells me I need silverlight and I already enabled silverlight through pipelight
[02:41] <LinusTorvaldII> ahh so it wants u to install wine
[02:41] <m1kehoax> WTF is what I am screaming right now at my computer!
[02:42] <LinusTorvaldII> so what ur telling me is freakin netfix is configured to only run in windows OS...if u need silverlight that windows which means u need to learn how to run wine --as far as i know.
[02:43] <LinusTorvaldII> i know my wife watched netflix on her mac
[02:43] <LinusTorvaldII> i guess i dont know sound slike pipelight is supposed to do it
[02:44] <Guest7542> Yeah from everything I am reading I followed every step (at least twice) and I should be geeking out on some Walking Dead right now but Kubuntu is being a PITA
[02:46] <Guest7542> Yeah Pipelight is supposed to "backdoor" silverlight with a wine patch that will make it work. Netflix is supposed to switching to HTML5 and once that is done we should be over all this playying with Microsofts shinannigans
[02:46] <LinusTorvaldII> yeah-
[02:46] <LinusTorvaldII> it can be a real fkkin hassle
[02:47] <LinusTorvaldII> hah mike took off he is psssed off
[02:47] <LinusTorvaldII> cant blame him
[02:47] <Guest7542> I think I am going to just start over with Kubuntu and then I can add a KDE type user interface that will look all prettyy
[02:48] <Guest7542> oh don't worry i am still here jsut with myy jankyy internet connection it will time out and drop out on me from time to time.
[02:48] <LinusTorvaldII> ok
[02:48] <Guest7542> Haha it logged me back in as a gues
[02:48] <Guest7542> guest
[02:48] <LinusTorvaldII> oic
[02:49] <LinusTorvaldII> so this issue is prolly same in ubuntu even then
[02:49] <m1kehoax> Well you are running ubuntu correct?
[02:49] <LinusTorvaldII> but lemme give u example of something i suffered with tha tubuntu fixed immediately...
[02:49] <LinusTorvaldII> i was using a lot of these ditros in my vm...
[02:50] <m1kehoax> VM = Virtual Machine?
[02:50] <LinusTorvaldII> and i could not EVER wit hany distro EXCEPT ubuntu burn a dvd ....in VM
[02:50] <LinusTorvaldII> yes
[02:50] <LinusTorvaldII> i tried ever damn one almost
[02:50] <LinusTorvaldII> ONLY ubuntu would burn a dvd in a VM
[02:51] <LinusTorvaldII> drive me insane cuz i was tryin to like kubuntu and a few others
[02:51] <m1kehoax> So my understanding is Ubuntu is the "parent" distro and the rest of the flavors are someone elses tweeks? So in working theory Ubuntu should be the most stable and BS free
[02:51] <LinusTorvaldII> not mint not kubuntu not deepin not fedora debian none
[02:52] <LinusTorvaldII> well i really am not sure mike but i came in here askin how this is even possible
[02:52] <LinusTorvaldII> i never got answer in any channe;
[02:52] <m1kehoax> Yeah I really like the layout of Kubuntu because it is familiar to a lifelong windows guy but I think if I jsut used Ubuntu like I have tried to use Kubuntu I would already be right at home
[02:52] <LinusTorvaldII> well maybe your issue wont be fixed who knows
[02:53] <LinusTorvaldII> but unity is extreme;y easy to use
[02:53] <LinusTorvaldII> crazy easy
[02:53] <LinusTorvaldII> when in doubt the search bar finds it for u anyway
[02:53] <m1kehoax> I think that is what I am going to do tomorrow I will take my laptop to work and use our highspeed to replace kubuntu with ubuntu
[02:54] <LinusTorvaldII> i even found ubuntu to beat mint at just doing everything straight away i also had issue installing mint a few times
[02:54] <m1kehoax> Yeah, I was just worried about not beign able to use my computer (which windows failed me for nearly 20 years) so I wanted to see somethign familiar
[02:54] <LinusTorvaldII> 2nd best for me has been fedora
[02:55] <m1kehoax> I think Ubuntu will be the best bet. Isn't ubuntu based off debian?
[02:55] <LinusTorvaldII> well debian unstable
[02:55] <m1kehoax> what does that mean?
[02:55] <LinusTorvaldII> debian is all older stuff that is totally proven
[02:55] <LinusTorvaldII> ubuntu isnt afraid of the new stuff
[02:55] <LinusTorvaldII> hehe
[02:56] <m1kehoax> brb gonna find myy OS installation drive with ubuntu on it.
[02:56] <LinusTorvaldII> oncein awhile it freezes or something no biggie
[02:56] <LinusTorvaldII> what would be cool is if they had ubuntu unity stable!!!
[02:57] <LinusTorvaldII> hehe
[02:57] <m1kehoax> So we get the cool stuff but it comes at a price of finding the glitches
[02:58] <LinusTorvaldII> haha
[02:58] <LinusTorvaldII> but
[02:58] <LinusTorvaldII> the ubuntu LTS version are pretty damn good
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> just dont take the lil ones in between
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> well my opinion
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> or
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> learn DEBIAN
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> lil harder to use but once u ge the stuff u need installed...
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> it may the best in the world
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> ROCK STABLE
[02:59] <LinusTorvaldII> boring stable
[03:00] <LinusTorvaldII> fast too really fast
[03:02] <LinusTorvaldII> ubuntu is so easy to use  i once helped a lady in australia get it-she was a virus magent- it was weird - i never had to really teach her how to use it
[03:02] <LinusTorvaldII> she just got it
[03:02] <LinusTorvaldII> boom
[03:02] <LinusTorvaldII> i told her a few things but then she never needed me again
[03:05] <m1kehoax> Cool i may tryy to run Debian then. Does it have GUI or is it all terminal?
[03:05] <LinusTorvaldII> nice gui
[03:05] <LinusTorvaldII> gorgeous no BS gui
[03:06] <m1kehoax> I dont need the latest greatest just stabe and reliable performance. I use my cmputer for 75% netflix 25% FB and sometimes I check my email :)
[03:06] <LinusTorvaldII> like the old w98 syle menus in a way but they drop down from top of screen
[03:07] <LinusTorvaldII> i had to llok a couple things up when i started with it and i still cant say i know it but it becomes apparant very quickly its amazing powerhouse distro
[03:07] <LinusTorvaldII> look*
[03:08] <ap0c> Kubuntu 14.04.1 LTS is nice , if you want stable it'll be supported for the next 5 years
[03:09] <LinusTorvaldII> he cant make netflic work in it and noone is answering
[03:09] <LinusTorvaldII> and it is his main thing
[03:09] <m1kehoax> if it doesnt work Netflix I can't bear to use it no matter how slick or stable it is :)
[03:10] <m1kehoax> ap0c if you can get netflix to work on my laptop I might have to change my last name to ap0c and marry you :) we could have beautiful children!
[03:11] <ap0c> did you try installing pipelight?
[03:11] <m1kehoax> yes I have it telling me I need silverlight and I alreadyy enabled it
[03:11] <ap0c> this is what someone on the ubuntu forums did -
[03:11] <ap0c> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pipelight/stable
[03:11] <ap0c> sudo apt-get update
[03:12] <ap0c> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends pipelight-multi
[03:12] <m1kehoax> yeah I already went through that :9
[03:12] <ap0c> sudo pipelight-plugin --update
[03:12] <ap0c> sudo pipelight-plugin --enable silverlight
[03:12] <ap0c> did you try that already?
[03:12] <ap0c> (the whole thing)
[03:13]  * LinusTorvaldII starts doing jumping jacks....
[03:13] <m1kehoax> I tried somethingsimilar let me see if this is any different
[03:14] <m1kehoax> :( nope still telling me I need silverlight :(
[03:14] <m1kehoax> My terminal says it is enabled
[03:15] <ap0c> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/uacontrol/
[03:15] <ap0c> I guess you need that addon to trick Firefox, to spoof your User-Agent string to look like you're running on windows
[03:16] <ap0c> thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2247844
[03:16] <m1kehoax> I am using the user-agent on chrome but let me see if it is any different on firefox
[03:17] <m1kehoax> well firefox is doing a lot of updating so it may be installing the packages I need.
[03:18]  * ap0c prays to Tux
[03:18] <m1kehoax> ugh 17mb of updates... I love living in the country but I miss my 30MBS internet connection from when I lived in town
[03:19] <ap0c> that would take like 8 seconds here
[03:19] <ap0c> maybe 5-6
[03:19] <m1kehoax> Iyts not as bad as dial up but its 3mbs with out anyone else and my daughter i watching kids shows on netlix
[03:19] <ap0c> I have 3 megabytes / s download speed usually
[03:20] <m1kehoax> still wating... :)
[03:20] <m1kehoax> I have the final Jeopardy music playing in my head :)
[03:24] <m1kehoax> Hey we might be on to something! It is installing pipelight
[03:26] <m1kehoax> ok so installed the UA but I am not sure how to use it!
[03:31] <ap0c> mikehoax: go to about:addons in your browser, or press alt and go add-ons under tools, or ctrl + shift + a in firefox
[03:31] <ap0c> find the program (should be in extensions) and go to your preferences
[03:32] <ap0c> I don't use the add-on / pipelight, so I don't know how to use it - but that's how you edit most app settings in firefox
[03:32] <ap0c> I just go to third-party sites that host links to streaming content usually, like solarmovie.so
[03:34] <m1kehoax> I just dont know of any other streaming sites that I trust
[03:37] <m1kehoax> Thank you for your help ap0c. It is bed time for me so I am going to go to sleep. I will tryy to fiddle with this some more tomorry... If I don't wipe it all out by then and start over with debian.
[04:19] <linforcer> Anyone here have any experience NetBoot installing?
[04:20] <linforcer> I'm having trouble finding a useful guide
[04:20] <linforcer> Not to mention I'd have to serve it from a mac and (unsurprisingly) all the guides assume I'd be doing it from a linux machine
[04:24] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:25] <silv3r_m00n> i just noticed that a package called kdm is not installed on my kubuntu, then how is the login screen coming up ?
[04:26] <silv3r_m00n> what is the display manager on kubuntu ?
[04:43] <valorie> oh my goodness so much incorrect information given out here today
[06:28] <soee> good morning :)
[06:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:33] <romber> Hi all, I use dual monitor on my laptop. Is there a way to stop mouse cursor on the monitor edge rather than move to another screen?
[07:34] <valorie> how would you use the mouse on the other screen then?
[07:35] <lordievader> romber: You can run them as two seperate desktops, but that kind of defeats the point.
[07:36] <romber> I use virtual box and run another system on another monitor
[07:37] <romber> it has another keyboard and mouse
[07:40] <romber> lordievader: do you mean to run another x session?
[07:41] <lordievader> Not really sure what it exactly does. But there are a few options on how you set up your dual screen.
[07:48] <romber> lordievader: where can I get those option ?
[07:52] <lordievader> romber: Usually in the driver configuration.
[07:55] <romber> lordievader: thanks, i will check that:)
[09:13] <Fabien> Hello. I'd like some answer. The 12.04 Kubuntu version is installed on  a mini-notebook Dell With 8 Gb drive. It works well. Do i have to install the last release ? Thanks
[09:16] <valorie> Fabien: no, that is a long-term release
[09:16] <valorie> Fabien: but you should always install the recommended updates, at least the security updates
[09:17] <valorie> Fabien: supported until April 2017
[09:18] <Fabien> Valorie: ok. Thank you.
[09:19] <valorie> I like the latest thing, but not everybody does
[09:19] <valorie> which is why we have LTS
[09:20] <Fabien> Is the latest release bigger than the 12.04 on 32bit OS ?
[09:21] <valorie> bigger?
[09:21] <valorie> I'm not sure what you mean
[09:22] <valorie> we always have to fit onto a DVD
[09:23] <valorie> if you mean does it take more ram, or more space on the hard drive -- not that I've noticed
[09:24] <Papamatti> I have a problem with the calendar in contact, I'm not able to connect via "Open-Xchange-Groupware-Server" at mailbox.org. I'm using Kubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4.14.2
[09:24] <Fabien> Valorie: I mean  there is about 600 mb free on 8Gb hard drive with 12.04.
[09:25] <valorie> wow, that's right on the edge
[09:26] <valorie> I wouldn't upgrade if I were you
[09:26] <valorie> not much space for documents and stuff
[09:27] <Fabien> valorie: yes.
[09:28] <Fabien> Valorie: I've a SD-card automatically mounted to add more space.
[09:28] <valorie> good idea
[09:31] <Fabien> Valorie: Thanks for your help.
[09:31] <Fabien> Valorie:good bye
[09:36] <Papamatti> I have a problem with the calendar in contact, I'm not able to connect via "Open-Xchange-Groupware-Server" at mailbox.org.Getting a 401 error. I'm using Kubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4.14.2. Works like a carm in thunderbird and evolution. Any hints?
[09:37] <valorie> Papamatti: perhaps ask in #kontact ?
[09:38] <valorie> sounds like a config problem
[09:39] <Papamatti> valorie: thank you
[09:40] <valorie> best of luck finding the problem
[09:40] <valorie> and fixing!
[09:42] <Taggnostr> hello
[09:43] <Taggnostr> I'm trying to copy files from a nexus 4 to my pc via USB, but dolphin keeps saying "the process for the mtp protocol died unexpectedly" (even though sometimes it manages to copy a few files before giving error)
[09:44] <Taggnostr> I usually can see the content of the phone from dolphin, but copying files almost never works, anyone knows how to fix it?
[09:46] <valorie> do you know how to use the commandline at all?
[09:46] <valorie> seems like you could just cd into the phone, and copy what you want
[09:46] <valorie> without relying on mtp
[09:48] <Taggnostr> I want to download some photos, and from dolphin I can select the ones I want easily
[10:21] <Yossarianuk> new release due out tomorrow ? - what advantages do I get using 14.10 over 14.04 + kde 4.14.x ppa ?
[10:26] <lordievader> Yossarianuk: Newer non-kde software. Newer kernel, etc.
[10:27] <lordievader> Trade-off between stability and newness.
[10:27] <Saphyel> any apps that doesn't work with plasma 5?
[10:27] <Yossarianuk> lordievader: thanks ! - I assume its the last kde 4.x kubuntu ?
[11:43] <memphisto> Hello guys. I use Kubunut 14.04.. Trying to use kde telepathy with sipe , but it doesn't show my conntact names
[11:44] <memphisto> i've tried with gtalk contact , and their names are shown
[11:44] <memphisto> pidgin-sipe/trusty,now 1.17.3-1 amd64 [installed]
[12:05] <desper4do> hey, why my kde thinks my normal pc is laptop?
[12:07] <metallic> why do you think Kubuntu thinks that? :/
[12:07] <memphisto> desper4do: how do you see that?
[12:08] <desper4do> it changes screen brightness
[12:08] <metallic> desper4do, I don't get you :/
[12:09] <desper4do> well, i unchecked everything in energy saving settings
[12:09] <desper4do> maybe it's not big deal
[12:09] <kikidee> metallic: power saving action
[12:09] <kikidee> desper4do: thats wrong
[12:09] <desper4do> what's wrong, that i can see energy saving settings?
[12:10] <kikidee> desper4do: there is a bug in the power saving
[12:10] <kikidee> desper4do: instead of unticking the dim monitor just set the timeout to 180 minutes or how much ever you want
[12:12] <kikidee> desper4do: if you untick the option the monitor will  switched off after few seconds or a minute
[12:12] <kikidee> *switch off
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <thomas_180> hello
[13:17] <kikidee> BluesKaj: are you there?
[13:36] <kslash> hi
[15:06] <harry_> Hi all, i hope you can help me with the following: after removing the folder .kde with the hope to reset the desktop to default settings, i can't seem to get into the system settings panel. I have done re install of the unity-control-system but no cure by far. Any idea what could be the root cause ?? Thanks in advanve for the help.
[15:06] <lordievader> harry_: Unity-control-system? Removing .kde should remove your kde profile and therefore reset things to default upon re-login.
[15:07] <harry_> lordievader: this is clear to me but why i can't open the system settings panel then?
[15:09] <harry_> lordievader: i am using kubuntu 14.04
[15:11] <harry_> Anyone...??
[15:11] <lordievader> harry_: Open a terminal and run: systemsettings
[15:12] <harry_> lordievader:  here is the output
[15:12] <harry_> (gnome-control-center.real:4031): WARNING **: Could not open X display
[15:12] <lordievader> !paste | harry_
[15:13] <harry_> ubottu: thx
[15:14] <harry_> lordievader: it syas at the end: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
[15:14] <lordievader> harry_: Are you running X?
[15:15] <harry_> no
[15:16] <lordievader> harry_: Then how do you suppose to run systemsettings?
[15:16] <harry_> lordievader: i mean simply to open it by clicking the icon
[15:16] <lordievader> So you are running X?
[15:17] <harry_> what do you really mean X running?
[15:17] <lordievader> harry_: X is the display server, are you logged into KDE or some other DE?
[15:18] <harry_> lordievader: i am logged into KDE indeed
[15:18] <lordievader> So you are running X ;) How did you open your terminal?
[15:18] <rberg> did you remove .kde while logged into kde?
[15:20] <harry_> lordievader: normal through the main menu...
[15:21] <harry_> rberg: that's right
[15:21] <lordievader> harry_: Did you log out -> log in after that?
[15:21] <harry_> lordievader: yes indeed, also reboot done
[15:22] <harry_> lordievader: rberg in my opinion something went wrong during the profile re-creating
[15:23] <rberg> harry_: I would start by logging out of kde, hit ctrl-f1, login at txt prompt, rm -r .kde, ctrl-atl-f7, then log back in to kde
[15:25] <rberg> if your config wasn't already weird I would do a mv .kde .kde.old instead
[15:25] <harry_> rberg: so you think then it will remove the profile completely and re-create the profile correctly.? Would it make sense why the system settings panel is not poping - up?
[15:26] <rberg> I think that removing the .kde folder while running kde will cause odd things to happen
[15:27] <harry_> rberg: the config was wierd. Actually the reason behind removing the profile is to remove the desktop thema and some other stuff.
[15:27] <rberg> some kde apps keep things in .config and .local/share
[15:28] <harry_> rberg: okay, and than ?
[15:29] <harry_> rberg: re installing of KDE worth while?
[15:30] <rberg> not unless you messed with system files as root, or manually started removing packages
[15:31] <harry_> rberg: is newlly fresh system (well, pretty new)
[15:31] <rberg> I would start with what I mentioned above, logout of kde and remove .kde
[15:34] <harry_> rberg: okay, do you think it will work through Team Viewer? I am logged in to that machine remotly...
[15:37] <harry_> rberg: i guess not, right?
[15:40] <rberg> I dont know if you will be able to switch virtual terminals (ctrl-atl-f1) threw team viewer or not.. actually if team viewer is a X app then it will die when you logout .. so no it probably wont work remotely like that.. ssh would work
[15:41] <lordievader> Login through ssh and issue "sudo chvt 1"
[15:41] <lordievader> Hmm, wait.. that will likely not work.
[15:41] <lordievader> I've dealt too much with kvm.
[15:43] <HmpfCBR> anyone tried the installer of the current daily with kvm? I get ubi-console-setup error 141 when going from timezone to keyboard all the time (german keyboard). If I ignore it the error, the installer crashes during the installation step.
[15:43] <harry_> lordievader:  i am trying to seek ways through ssh
[15:44] <lordievader> harry_: I'm not thinking straight. Log out of kde. Login through ssh, rename .kde. Login to KDE.
[15:45] <lordievader> HmpfCBR: Please join #kubuntu-devel there are more testers there ;)
[15:45] <harry_> lordievader: thx! will try...
[15:45] <HmpfCBR> lordievader: will do that
[18:59] <metallic> ok people, I am pretty pissed off, I hope you can help me with this: I want to run a script from the terminal, when I do ./script-name.sh I get "bash: ./script-name.sh: Permission denied" I tried to modify my rights for this file but apparently I did not do it well, I hope you can tell me how it should be done
[18:59] <metallic> I typed "sudo chmod u+x script-name.sh"
[19:02] <metallic> but doing so does not make any changes to my rights as I can see with the "ls -l" command :(
[19:08] <jalomann> metallic: you should run it also with sudo ./script-name.sh
[19:08] <metallic> already tried that :(
[19:08] <metallic> ls -l still the same
[19:09] <jalomann> metallic: who is the owner of the file?
[19:09] <jalomann> did it ask for a sudo password?
[19:09] <metallic> I am the owner, but it is stored in a different partition of the hard drive
[19:10] <metallic> jalomann, no it didn't
[19:10] <jalomann> if type it with . in the beginning, it runs in local directory.
[19:11] <jalomann> If the file is other hard drive, you must include it in PATH
[19:11] <metallic> I know I know
[19:12] <jalomann> Is the other hard drive FAT
[19:12] <metallic> jalomann, I am at the script's folder right now
[19:12] <metallic> yes
[19:12] <metallic> vfat to be more precise
[19:12] <metallic> does it matter?
[19:12] <jalomann> That's the problem. I have noticed that you can set x for FAT.
[19:12] <jalomann> Yes
[19:13] <metallic> I can change my rights for reading and writing but not for executing :/ is weird
[19:13] <metallic> jalomann, what do you suggest? Should I just moved it to another place?
[19:14] <jalomann> Yes.  :) For now I am moving the script but I want to know
[19:15] <krytarik> metallic: You could run it with "bash script-name.sh" too though. :)
[19:16] <jalomann> Afaik no. I don't know the exact reason but I noticed this when running scripts on N9.
[19:16] <metallic> but I still have no execution rights over the script :/ that's what I care of krytarik, I am moving it
[19:16] <metallic> jalomann, N9¿
[19:16] <jalomann> Nokia N9 phone
[19:16] <metallic> oh
[19:16] <jalomann> N9 home directory if FAT
[19:17] <jalomann> N9 home directory is FAT
[19:17] <metallic> I made it FAT just to make sure every OS on my hard drive would be able to access that partition files :(
[19:18] <jalomann> I know the pain.
[19:18] <metallic> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[19:18] <metallic> I HAVE EXECUTION RIGHTS !!!
[19:18] <metallic> :D
[19:18] <metallic> *fanfare music sounds*
[19:19] <jalomann> Nice
[19:21] <metallic> I store the commands for my most downloaded programs so that every time I reinstall the OS I do not have to repeat over and over the process. The script makes it for me:) Thanks. From now on I am aware of this
[19:23] <jalomann> You are welcome.
[19:58] <tertu> i'm trying to repair a hosed Plasma 5 upgrade right now
[19:58] <tertu> so far it's been pretty successful but I don't think lightdm will start K
[19:58] <tertu> i can start K by logging in on a VT and running startx from there though
[19:59] <tertu> (i switched back to kde4)
[20:05] <genii> tertu: I might try drop to a console and stop lightdm, then sudo install --reinstall lightdm-kde-greeter   and see if it picks up the right desktops which are available
[20:07] <tertu> that seems reasonable.
[22:05] <Zephyr1139>
[22:06] <Zephyr1139> How do I enable the debian repository that provides "kubuntu-desktop" ?
[22:06] <Zephyr1139> !kubuntu-desktop
[22:15] <rww> Zephyr1139: the standard repositories used by Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc. have that repository. Which distribution are you using?
[22:17] <Zephyr1139> googling I found this: "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next"
[22:17] <Zephyr1139> rww, I am starting with a server installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[22:17] <rww> erm, no, you don't want that PPA
[22:18] <rww> Zephyr1139: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should work fine, then
[22:20] <Zephyr1139> rww, I tried that already, I still get "E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop"
[22:21] <rww> oh, they moved kubuntu-desktop to universe a while back, didn't they...
[22:21] <rww> Zephyr1139: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, enable the universe repositories if they're not enabled
[22:21] <Zephyr1139> rww, what is "ppa" and why should I not be using it?
[22:21] <rww> !ppa
[22:21] <rww> that one in particular is beta software
[22:23] <Zephyr1139> rww, the only thing showing in that file is this:
[22:25] <Zephyr1139> rww, deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.3)/ trusty main restricted
[22:26] <genii> So there was no network during original install
[22:27] <Zephyr1139> genii, there was a network installed via a hardline to the hub (no wireless) did I botch the initial install?
[22:27] <rww> Zephyr1139: replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntu.com/8632928/
[22:27] <rww> optionally using a different mirror from us.archive.ubuntu.com if you're not in the US
[22:27] <rww> then apt-get update, then it should work fine
[22:28] <genii> Zephyr1139: Usually what happens is if it fails to detect a network, it will only enable the CD/DVD as a repository in the sources.list file
[22:29] <Zephyr1139> rww, cool lemme try that.  (good ole paste bin sites)
[22:42] <Zephyr1139> rww, did that.  Now "sudo update kubuntu-desktop" spits out about 79 lines worth of unmet dependencies
[22:55] <Zephyr1139> rww, I pasted the results here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8633105/
[23:00] <genii> Zephyr1139: I think you should probably also add trust-backports and multiverse, then sudo apt-get update
[23:01] <Zephyr1139> rww, genii, This seams to be a good solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1959492.html
[23:02] <Zephyr1139> rww, genii, it's churning away with a big install now.
[23:07] <Zephyr1139>  !backports
[23:19] <Zephyr1139> rww, did all of that and it appeared to install fully.  Rebooting did not bring up a desktop.
[23:21] <Zephyr1139> rww, lsmod | grep nvidia shows that my module is loaded.
[23:21] <Zephyr1139> rww, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is missing
[23:24] <Zephyr1139> !xorg.conf
[23:31] <Zephyr1139> rww, nvidia-xconfig doesn't seam to help.