[01:21] <Prokurentlulz> hello
[01:21] <Prokurentlulz> i have never been to #ubuntu before
[01:21] <Prokurentlulz> i tried both with a registered name and this one
[01:22] <Prokurentlulz> and i cannot send to the channel
[01:22] <k1l_> gimmie a second
[01:24] <Prokurent> :|
[01:24] <Prokurent> there are 49 of you here
[01:24] <k1l_> what is that ip from, you are connecting from?
[01:24] <Prokurent> specify?
[01:25] <Prokurent> what problem would sprout from that, that i may be experiencing now?
[01:25] <Prokurent> it works here
[01:25] <Prokurent> and everywhere else
[01:25] <Prokurent> but i cant talk in #ubuntu
[01:26] <k1l_> yes, because some user with your ip missbehaved and the ip got muted
[01:26] <Prokurent> ive never been here before
[01:26] <Prokurent> and im not using a proxy
[01:26] <holstein> Prokurent: someone else with that IP
[01:26] <Prokurent> well fuck me sideways
[01:27] <IdleOne> No need for that language
[01:27] <Prokurent> hmm
[01:28] <Prokurent> ive never been to #ubuntu
[01:28] <holstein> Prokurent: someone else has been with the IP you are logging in from then.. and the IP got muted
[01:29] <Prokurent> i have no idea why or how
[01:29] <k1l_> Prokurent: that language is no appropriate. there is a reason i asked which ip that is. if that is a public or proxy ip that would make it obviouse that some other user could have been that user with missbehavement
[01:29] <Prokurent> its a public IP
[01:29] <Prokurent> so i guess you have your answer
[01:30] <k1l_> so there is no need to get offensive or swearing while we try to sort that issue out for you.
[01:30] <Prokurent> what are we, 5?
[01:30] <holstein> Prokurent: your patience is appreciated
[01:31] <Prokurent> okay...
[01:31] <holstein> Prokurent: we are mostly volunteers, and there are reasons why the channels are kept "clean"
[01:31] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[01:31] <Prokurent> moj bog
[01:31] <k1l_> Prokurent: ok. i will remove the mute so that you can speak in #ubuntu. make sure to read the guidelines and stick to the rules
[01:31] <Prokurent> okay
[01:32] <k1l_> Prokurent: ok, you are now unmuted. please stick to the rules and enjoy the stay in #ubuntu
[01:33] <IdleOne> and part this channel.
[01:34] <Prokurent> how do i launch firefox...
[01:34] <holstein> Prokurent: i would /part this channel and ask in #ubuntu ...thanks
[01:34] <IdleOne> Prokurent: I don't appreciate your racist comment in here. You are banned from #ubuntu and it will not be removed.
[01:34] <Prokurent> what the fuck
[01:35] <Prokurent> are you talking about
[04:52] <Ben64> hey, trolling is abound in #ubuntu, <dingoateyourbaby>
[04:53] <Ben64> he? linked to this, i guess proud of the last time he was banned? http://sprunge.us/LJhA
[04:54] <Ben64> nvm he left...
[11:35] <Myrtti> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2013-February/035977.html
[11:35] <Myrtti> fyi steam and nvidia
[11:41] <ikonia> good to konw...and once again another reason why the linux gaming platform is sure to be a sucess and stable experience
[11:47] <k1l_> i hope all the new users comming to ubuntu and getting annoyed by the driver situation will go to nvidia and amd and punch until they make better drivers :)
[11:48] <ikonia> ....not nvidia's issue
[11:53] <Myrtti> k1l_: scream at Valve for making such a hairbrained suggestion to update to an experimental driver
[11:53] <Myrtti> and yes, yell at Nvidia too
[12:04] <k1l_> well, i hope that this whole topic will improve with the new dash now coming from the new users
[13:12] <ikonia> k1l_: new dash from new users ?
[13:14] <k1l_> like in full of vim and vigor
[13:38] <ikonia> sorry, I don't understand
[21:40] <Flannel> apparently changing your nick once is nickspam now.  I must have missed that memo.
[21:40] <Myrtti> the what
[21:40] <Flannel> Oh, there's a pretty good history.
[21:40] <Flannel> Seems like he renicks whenever he joins, and he has a shoddy connection.
[21:42] <Myrtti> I suspect it's some sort of awaynick concoction


[00:28] <Smash__> QUESTION: is owncloud easy to install and run on Ubuntu LTS?
[00:29] <JoseeAntonioR> Smash__: we're not live right now
[00:29] <Smash__> Sorry
[00:31] <JoseeAntonioR> no worries :)
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning


[09:04] <felipec> where am I supposed to put the translation stuff? it's ok: /po/es.po /po/messages.pot
[11:10] <audifahrer> Hi
[11:10] <audifahrer> any ideas why this ebuild fails: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/118780526/buildlog.txt.gz
[11:10] <audifahrer> ?
[11:10] <audifahrer> https://code.launchpad.net/~tux-style/+recipe/oisp-daily
[22:40] <mrburns> i am new to launchpad and bazaar i am trying to get the code for a project when i type "bzr branch lp:alarm-clock" i get an error "permission denied (publickey)" any ideas what i am doing wrong?
[22:58] <wgrant> mrburns: Sounds like you ran 'bzr lp-login' with the wrong username, or you don't have your SSH keys on Launchpad. You don't need SSH keys set up if you just want to download public code, but if you want to upload anything you'll need to follow http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/543246_355727361185059_328289847_n.jpg
[22:59] <wgrant> Blash
[22:59] <wgrant> wtf is that
[22:59] <wgrant> thanks reddit :)
[22:59] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[22:59] <wgrant> That's the one
[23:01] <lifeless> wgrant: what reddit were you in :P
[23:01] <mrburns> i should have synced both my PGP and SSH keys "bzr lp-login" shows the correct lp login for me
[23:02] <wgrant> lifeless: /r/starcraft!
[23:02] <wgrant> mrburns: Hmm
[23:02] <wgrant> mrburns: WHat's your Launchpad username?
[23:02] <mrburns> wgrant: partloer
[23:02] <wgrant> And do you have multiple SSH keys locally, or just one?
[23:03] <wgrant> Let's see
[23:03] <mrburns> wgrant: i think multiple
[23:03] <wgrant> Right, so you indeed have valid SSH and GPG keys
[23:04] <wgrant> mrburns: If you have multiple keys you might need to use the ~/.ssh/config snippet from https://help.launchpad.net/Code/UploadingABranch
[23:04] <wgrant> To specify which one to use for bazaar.launchpad.net
[23:04] <wgrant> It won't automatically try everything that's in ~/.ssh
[23:06] <mrburns> wgrant: i check under .ssh and i have a file authorized_keys and only one entry i thought that i set that up correctly but let me know if there is a way to check this
[23:06] <wgrant> mrburns: authorized_keys is keys that are allowed to SSH into your local machine
[23:07] <wgrant> So it's the wrong end
[23:07] <wgrant> ~/.ssh/id_rsa is the default private key name
[23:07] <wgrant> ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub is the corresponding public key
[23:07] <wgrant> SSH will use those by default; if it's named something else then you'll need the config override
[23:10] <wgrant> How did you generate your key?
[23:12] <mrburns> well i created them a while back uploaded it to launchpad then reformatted my computer since thus i can trying to get the key from launchpad to my machine
[23:12] <wgrant> Oh
[23:12] <wgrant> You'll need to generate a new one
[23:12] <wgrant> Launchpad only has the public key. The private key never leaves your machine
[23:13] <wgrant> So if you reformatted without backing it up, you'll need to make a new one.
[23:13] <mrburns> ok so when i generate a new key it is the private one that it creates?
[23:13] <wgrant> It generates a "keypair", with corresponding private and public keys
[23:14] <wgrant> You give Launchpad the public key, but keep the private key private
[23:14] <mrburns> yeah that part i knew i was trying to see if i can just create a new private key without changing both
[23:14] <wgrant> You can't
[23:15] <wgrant> Otherwise I could just grab your public key from Launchpad, generate my own copy of the private key, and pretend to be you
[23:15] <wgrant> Which would be sort of bad.
[23:16] <mrburns> that would be the problem, thanks
[23:16] <mrburns> so how do i connect with a different computer then (ie laptop)? can i backup my private key then transfer it?
[23:16] <wgrant> mrburns: Right, you can just copy the private key (usually ~/.ssh/id_rsa) to another machine that you trust
[23:16] <wgrant> Or you could generate a second key, and add both to your Launchpad accounmt
[23:17] <mrburns> ok that is simple enough...well i wont make that mistake again
[23:17] <wgrant> It's not a big issue if you only use your key for Launchpad
[23:18] <wgrant> Since you can just remove it and create a new one as a replacement
[23:18] <wgrant> But if your SSH key is the only access you have to some remote machines, it can be a little awkward :)
[23:19] <mrburns> thanks wgrant for your help
[23:19] <wgrant> np, hopefully you'll be able to grab that code once you've regenerated that key
[23:40] <mrburns> wgrant: everything worked thanks
[23:41] <wgrant> Great!


[00:02] <teward> who spearheads the deb to snap stuff for chromium right now
[08:17] <Laney> anyone know / has looked into what's going on with libsane1? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/485340393/buildlog_ubuntu_groovy_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz
[08:17] <Laney> I remember something in Debian about this and a transitional package
[08:29] <seb128> Laney, LocutusOfBorg was discussing that transition with RAOF the other day
[08:29] <seb128> but I don't know what's missing at this point
[08:30] <Laney> thanks, hopefully those are enough highlights to get people who understand :>
[08:30] <seb128> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=962936
[08:31] <Laney> I'll avoid digging into it for now :p
[08:31] <seb128> right, same here
[08:31] <RAOF> I did the promotion of libsane1 to main, which resolved what we were talking about.
[08:32] <RAOF> So I think it's now all "LocutusOfBorg" (https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_LocutusOfBorg:matrix.org) 😉
[08:58] <sich> Hi all ... first time joining this channel.  I'm interested in helping out with ubuntu development and looking for a little direction if possible.
[09:01] <seb128> sich, hey, unless you have specific things you want to contribute to you could start by reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[09:12] <sich> @seb128 I do have a few areas that I'd like to contribute in, but as I'm new I'll go through the steps one by one ... thank you
[09:12] <udevbot> Error: "seb128" is not a valid command.
[09:59] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, it is installable here, not sure what are you talking about to be honest, can you please provide some more context?
[09:59] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: see the build log I gave
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg> Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy/universe amd64 libsane1 amd64 1.0.30-1~experimental2ubuntu1 [2387 kB]
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg> Get:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy/main amd64 sane-utils amd64 1.0.30-1~experimental2ubuntu1 [202 kB]
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg> Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy/main amd64 libsane amd64 1.0.30-1~experimental2ubuntu1 [14.8 kB]
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg> as said, it is installable here, not sure what is doing your build log
[10:01] <Laney> that's of an ubuntu desktop image
[10:01] <LocutusOfBorg> ah ok
[10:01] <LocutusOfBorg> so now I got it
[10:01] <LocutusOfBorg> will rebuild everything to pick up the new old libsane1
[10:01] <Laney> ok cool, I didn't follow what's going on there - and I'm happy not to learn if you want to handle it
[10:01] <Laney> thanks :>
[10:02] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, to be honest, instead of having an useless transition, you might want to add the transitional package libsane1 to main
[10:02] <LocutusOfBorg> it is just a transitional package I added to ensure smooth upgrades
[10:02] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, R_AOF said earlier that he did promote it?
[10:02] <LocutusOfBorg> it will save a ton of rebuilds, but I can do them anyway, as you wish (I know rebuilding helps to make transitional foo disappear)
[10:03] <Laney> it's not in main no
[10:03] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, debian switched again from libsane1 to libsane, so I asked to promote the libsane again, and demote libsane1 that is now a transitional package
[10:03] <Laney> ah
[10:03] <LocutusOfBorg> but of course if you runtime-depend on transitional package but it is universe, nobody will teach you to move to the new one
[10:03] <Laney> yes component-mismatches asks for it to be promoted
[10:04] <Laney> maybe do both? promote and fix the archive too?
[10:04] <LocutusOfBorg> it won't ask again to be promoted when the reverse-deps are rebuilt ;)
[10:05] <LocutusOfBorg> I can do the rebuilds anyway, maybe just of main packages
[10:06] <seb128> rebuild of main sounds like the best solution
[10:06] <Laney> as you wish
[10:06] <Laney> I assume it's not so many
[10:06] <LocutusOfBorg> the only problem is that since this morning reverse-depends is not working :)
[10:07] <LocutusOfBorg> but I can steal from there https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-sane-backends.html
[10:07]  * LocutusOfBorg does them
[10:08] <Laney> cheers
[10:09] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks fro the prod
[10:25] <soren> What's the preferred way to get a package upload (to main) sponsored these days?
[10:26] <juliank> soren: same as always https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[10:29] <seb128> soren, easiest is probably debdiff to a launchpad but with ubuntu-sponsors subscribed
[10:29] <soren> juliank: So debdiff on Launchpad, not .changes (etc). on a web server somewhere?
[10:29] <soren> seb128: Right. Got it. Thanks :)
[10:29] <seb128> np
[13:07] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, the rebuilds you did depends on the versioned lib, which isn't what is expected from what you said this morning?
[13:15] <ahasenack> LocutusOfBorg: hi, you uploaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libguestfs/1:1.42.0-5ubuntu2, did debian drop the erlang package from it?
[14:01] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, libsane-dev depends on libsane1 and both should be in main
[14:02] <LocutusOfBorg> libsane is transitional and should be moved to universe and possibly die in a fire or be "Provided:" by libsane1
[14:02] <LocutusOfBorg> can you please do the magic promote again?
[14:02] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, that's the opposite of what you wrote this morning?
 seb128, debian switched again from libsane1 to libsane, so I asked to promote the libsane again, and demote libsane1 that is now a transitional package
[14:03] <LocutusOfBorg> yes sorry, I had no coffee at that time, and everything that has "sane" in the sentence gives me headaches
[14:03] <LocutusOfBorg> the bug report I filed in Debian is good
[14:04] <seb128> k
[14:04] <LocutusOfBorg> do you have power to fix them up? they should migrate in a run or two, they all looks ok
[14:06] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, yes
[14:33] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, also, somebody should MIR src:libnma?
[14:40] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, I guess?
[14:41] <rafaeldtinoco> there was an old bug from cyphermox related to adding support for netplan into netcf:
[14:41] <rafaeldtinoco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcf/+bug/1688345
[14:42] <rafaeldtinoco> I was wondering, should we keep it opened or just request netcf removal from the archive ?
[14:42] <rafaeldtinoco> (it seems that netcf isn't much "maintained" lately, and our strategy is to support netplan with backends only, no ?)
[14:42]  * rafaeldtinoco waits feedback to continue or not with [RM] bug to AA
[20:49] <ahasenack> question, how are translations updated if an SRU changes the text of some package? Or are they not?
[20:58] <sarnold> I've seen sru uploader making changes where that's possible
[20:59] <ahasenack> you mean also uploading an updated locales package?
[21:00] <ahasenack> language-pack-$lanf
[21:03] <sarnold> ahasenack: no, just the .po files in the package; a recent example I noticed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/2.0.2ubuntu0.1
[21:38] <ahasenack> sarnold: oh, I guess I'm not sure how lp translations work then
[21:38] <ahasenack> I thought translations were separate from the package and that that was one of the big ubuntu differences
[21:44] <seb128> ahasenack, sarnold, the normal 'cycle' is that the source package generates a template during the build, which is imported by launchpad
[21:44] <seb128> then translators do their work
[21:44] <ahasenack> when does it get back into the package?
[21:44] <seb128> and translations are exported to build langpacks on a regular cadence
[21:44] <seb128> we do langpack refreshes, at least in the LTS cycles
[21:44] <seb128> we will have one for .1 for sure
[21:45] <ahasenack> seb128: but the package also installs its own .mo file
[21:46] <ahasenack> apt installs 43 of those
[21:46] <seb128> ahasenack, if you have a package shipping its own translations then it's a special case
[21:49] <seb128> ahasenack, pkgbinarymangler/striptranslations.blacklist
[21:50] <seb128> ahasenack, basically things that impact the installer don't use langpacks
[21:50] <ahasenack> I see
[21:50] <seb128> so we cover all languages for the installer
[21:50] <seb128> for those to update translations you need a source upload
[21:51] <ahasenack> seb128: does lp "ingest" changed translation templates when an SRU is done?
[21:51] <seb128> ahasenack, yes
[21:51] <ahasenack> seb128: also for esm releases? like trusty?
[21:51] <seb128> I guess, I don't see a reason why they would be special
[21:51] <ahasenack> I assume we just don't update langpacks for those
[21:52] <seb128> afaik we don't no
[21:52] <ahasenack> ok, thanks
[21:52] <seb128> np
[21:52] <seb128> you can see if there a new template in the launchpad queue
[21:53] <ahasenack> I checked https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/update-notifier/+pots/update-notifier/pt_BR and it doesn't have new strings already updated in update-notifier in trusty
[21:53] <seb128> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/<serie>/+source/<source>/+imports
[21:53] <ahasenack> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/update-notifier/+imports is empty
[21:54] <seb128> I think the records don't stay long there so you would need to look soon after an upload
[21:56] <seb128> ahasenack, for launchpad to have a template to import the package build must generate one
[21:56] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/444456802/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.update-notifier_0.154.1ubuntu8_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:56] <seb128> which is the most recent trusty upload doesn't have one
[21:57] <seb128> compared to e.g focal
[21:57] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/472635894/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.update-notifier_3.192.30_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:57] <seb128> Building update-notifier.pot...
[21:57] <seb128> Removing generated header (.h) files...done.
[21:57] <seb128> Wrote update-notifier.pot
[21:57] <seb128>
[21:57] <ahasenack> interesting, why would it have been removed, if the release package has one (as it has translations in lp)
[21:58] <seb128> ahasenack, the package has one but did you check that it has been updated to include the new strings you are after?
[21:58] <ahasenack> all the ESM stuff, as far as I can tell, is not available for translation in lp
[21:59] <ahasenack> I need to inspect this further, at least the LP side seems ok and will do its job once the pot file is generated
[22:00] <seb128> ahasenack, right, looking at e.g http://launchpadlibrarian.net/440218814/update-notifier_0.154.1ubuntu6_0.154.1ubuntu7.diff.gz the .pot isn't updated/part of the diff
[22:00] <seb128> and since the build doesn't do an update/use dh_translations or such, launchpad probably just has an outdated template
[22:01] <ahasenack> yeah
[22:01] <seb128> ahasenack, it's late here and I need to call it a day but feel free to Cc me on an email/bug/whatever or just ping me tomorrow, I'm having to look at resolving that with you
[22:01] <ahasenack> seb128: thank you, good night
[22:01] <seb128> I'm happy*
[22:01] <ahasenack> I'm also dropping off
[22:01] <seb128> np!
[22:01] <seb128> night
[22:02] <kanashiro> mwhudson: when you have some time could you please check this bug and provide some feedback? LP #1884663
[22:02] <kanashiro> it is containerd related
[22:03] <mwhudson> kanashiro: can we just make everything a snap? :)
[22:03] <kanashiro> :)


[16:43] <micahg> hrm, did I break the i386 ISO...
[16:45] <micahg> ah, no, it's CD size again \o/
[16:46] <pleia2> \o/


[17:25]  * ogra tickles Eickmeyer[m]
[17:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> hehe
[17:26]  * arraybolt3 summons te_ward
[17:26] <ogra> Eickmeyer[m], LP sent me mail today that made me think of you ...
[17:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> ogra: Oh?
[17:27] <ogra> Eickmeyer[m], about my renewal of my edubuntu-irc-ops membership ...
[17:27] <ogra> which made me check the #edubuntu channel ... seems that still exists because there hang two bots out
[17:28] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh! I didn't know that, I didn't even know it was a thing here!
[17:28] <ogra> i was wondering if you'd want to re-vive it or rather do edubuntu suppot thrugh other channels
[17:28] <ogra> yeah, i was surprised too ... i thought it died with freenode
[17:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> We should probably revive it, but I'll probably do like Ubuntu Studio and bridge it with Matrix since low barrier-to-entry.
[17:29] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/~irc-edubuntu-ops
[17:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> Requires IRCC approval.
[17:30] <ogra> yep
[17:30] <ogra> wow, you are fast clicking links on the internets 🙂
[17:30]  * ogra sees you applied already
[17:31] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer's fast at everything.
[17:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, I surprise people.
[17:31] <leftyfb> I thought I heard inklings of edubuntu making a comeback recently
[17:31] <ogra> arraybolt3, nw you sacred me ... s i have to play music Eickmeyer[m] makes at half speed ?
[17:31] <ogra> *now
[17:31] <ogra> *scared
[17:31] <arraybolt3> *so
[17:31] <ogra> *sigh* ...
[17:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> leftyfb: Yep, just got the go-ahead from the TB, but we've got some things to wrap-up internally before approaching the release team.
[17:32] <arraybolt3> ogra: Heh, depending on the sample rate the file he sends you...
[17:32] <Eickmeyer[m]> HAHAHAHA ogra
[17:32] <arraybolt3> *of the file
[17:32] <leftyfb> Eickmeyer[m]: will there still be a focus on the thin-client route?
[17:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> Rumors that I'm a hummingbird have been greatly exaggerated.
[17:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> leftyfb: That's secondary.
[17:33] <arraybolt3> lol @ hummingbird
[17:33] <ogra> yeah, LTSP went off on its own anyway, you can just use it with any linux nowadays
[17:34] <arraybolt3> (Hopefully there will still be the IRC channel and not just the Matrix room, I've given Matrix a fair shot and IRC is superior for me.)
[17:34] <ogra> not really tied to education anymore
[17:34]  * leftyfb REALLY hates Matrix
[17:34] <ogra> arraybolt3, /join #edubuntu 🙂 still there
[17:34] <arraybolt3> ogra: Just did :)
[19:57] <charafau[m]> I should post image here to really trigger irc people :P