[19:54] <woden_> How do I go about setting up a 'drag and drop' encrypted folder?
[19:54] <Slart> hmm.. I've got ia32-libs available to me in synaptic.. wonder where that comes from if ubottu doesn't know about it
[19:54] <david_> woden_, sounds like pr0n lol
[19:54] <mphill> open office is a 32-bit application so i would assume the 32 library is already there.
[19:54] <Fenix|work> gnutron, was chmod -R 770 /
[19:55] <daaaman64> Slart, do you know of anything like emerge for ubuntu? It would be sweet if we had a compiling repository too.
[19:55] <Slart> mphill: ooo is 32-bit even on the 64-bit ubuntu???
[19:55] <mphill> the package is ia32-libs
[19:55] <daaaman64> alternatively of course.
[19:55] <gnutron> keishia: find the motherboard model number and check the specs
[19:55] <woden_> david_:  No, password files.  And also, just because I want to and I'm interesting in learning how.
[19:55] <david_> daaaman64, apt get or aptitude
[19:55] <Slart> daaaman64: well.. there's apt-get build wich I assume would be kind of the same
[19:55] <mphill> Slart: 64-bit processor are more than capable of running 32-bit binaries
[19:55] <ChotaZ> Can anyone hit my with some link on how to install Kubuntu over Ubuntu 8.10?
[19:55] <mphill> you just need the libraries
[19:55] <david_> woden_,  I'm sorry i was being sarcastic, I don't have an answer for you
[19:55] <daaaman64> david_ COMPILING. apt-get just adds packages. Thanks though.
[19:56] <james1979> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:56] <keishia> gnutron, sorry which one in the list is the motherboard?
[19:56] <ChotaZ> thanks james1979
[19:56] <Slart> mphill: yes, I know.. I'm just surprised that they aren't doing 64-bit binaries..
[19:56] <gnutron> Fenix|work: depends if it was recursively done, but it should be 755 not 770
[19:56] <zanberdo> I've associated my iPod to open Rhythmbox automatically and I'd like to disassociate them.  How?
[19:57] <Fenix|work> gnutron, I know it should be 775... I'm saying my jr. -R 770 on / :)
[19:57] <iShock> What should I install for listening to music?
[19:57] <mphill> Slart: lots of people are slow to get on the 64-bit band wagon, java, Open office, most people that release as a binary
[19:57] <james1979> iShock : vlc, rhythmbox
[19:57] <iShock> Hm vlc
[19:58] <mphill> there is flash 64 which works very well i might add, hats off to adobe
[19:58] <keishia> iShock : banshee
[19:58] <gnutron> Fenix|work: tough call, the sub dirs are not all 755
[19:58] <doomhz> how to unzip a specific folder from a zip archive in command line?
[19:58] <doomhz> anyone?
[19:58] <ChotaZ> Is the lastest openoffice compatible with MS Office 2007?
[19:58] <gnutron> doomhz: tar -zxvf
[19:58] <james1979> vlc for single songs rhythmbox/banshee for your library
[19:58] <tritium> ChotaZ: it can open, but not save to, the new format.
[19:58] <CITguy-Artemis> does anybody know how i can change a folder icon from command line? (for use in a script)
[19:58] <gnutron> doomhz: sorry unzip file.zip
[19:59] <ChotaZ> if you open a docx with OO it wont save again for docx?
[19:59] <tux> did the cheese application stop working for anyone ?
[19:59] <jdolan_> Slart, it runs, thank you again.
[19:59] <doomhz> gnutron: no, I have folder in folder in my zip smth like folder1/folder2/folder3/manyfiles...
[19:59] <Slart> jdolan_: great
[19:59] <doomhz> gnutron: I need to unzip only the folder3 with his files
[19:59] <Slart> jdolan_: you're welcome
[20:00] <gnutron> doomhz: unzip folder3/  i would guess.
[20:00] <CharlieBrown> tux Cheese worked for me on Intrepid but Stopmotion won't work anymore
[20:00] <doomhz> gutron: can I do smth like unzip file.zip/folder1/folder2/folder3/ ?
[20:00] <CharlieBrown> tux: Cheese worked for me on Intrepid but Stopmotion won't work anymore
[20:00] <woden_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[20:01] <gnutron> doomhz: that would'nt work. what is the name of the archive?
[20:01] <ChotaZ> i cant join #kubuntu on mibbit.com <.<
[20:01] <doomhz> books.zip
[20:01] <rafting> I give up!
[20:01] <gnutron> doomhz: unzip books.zip
[20:02] <doomhz> gutron: and it contains a folder path like home/myname/Books/files_I_need
[20:02] <doomhz> gutron: so I need only that files, I don't need the whole path dyrectory
[20:02] <woden_> If I want to use "Passwords and Encryption Keys" to encrypt a folder or a file, do I want to create a Secure Shell Key or a PGP Key?
[20:02] <gnutron> doomhz: put the file in /home then unzip it from there.
[20:02] <doomhz> gnutron: thanks
[20:03] <gnutron> woden_: a gpg key, not pgp
[20:03] <rafting> Im tryong to turn off the authentification from my wireless network via windows vsita so that I can logon from Ubuntu. But hwen I do it instead shuts down my connection!!!! So how do I turn off the authentification i vista?
[20:03] <Slart> mphill: it seems they are at least trying.. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Porting_to_x86-64_(AMD64,_EM64T)
[20:03] <gnutron> doomhz: unless ubuntu supports pgp, which i'm not aware of.
[20:04] <woden_> gnutron:  In "Passwords and Encryption Keys" I selected "Generate a new key of your own" and I was prompted to create either a "Secure Shell Key" or a "PGP Key".  Which one?
[20:04] <ChotaZ> Guys, I'm looking to use my ubuntu desktop to watch movies and some anime, is there a good coded pack+player i could get?
[20:04] <Slart> rafting: you have to disable authentication on the wireless router.. usually via some kind of web-interface
[20:04] <mphill> woden_: what are you trying to do?
[20:04] <niklauz> !pgo
[20:04] <zanberdo> At some point when I plugged in my ipod I configured it to automatically load rhythmbox. I'd like to remove that association.  Where can I find this setting?
[20:04] <niklauz> !pgp
[20:04] <Slart> ChotaZ: I use vlc.. it handles almost anything
[20:04] <n8tuser2> rafting how are you turning off that authentication?  or press the reset button for 15 secs?
[20:04] <Slart> !codecs | ChotaZ
[20:04] <woden_> mphill:  Encrypte a folder or a file on my local filesystem.
[20:05] <gnutron> woden_: secure shell key is for using ssh, so i assume pgp key
[20:05] <mphill> woden_: pgp
[20:05] <mphill> encrypt the pr0n folder
[20:06] <rashad> السلام عليكم ورحمة اللة وبركاتة
[20:06] <woden_> gnutron, mphill:  I chose PGP Key and it won't let me press the "Create" button.  It's greyed out.
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !arabic > rashad
[20:06] <moDumass> morning all, i cant get my monitor to be recognised and my xrandr output shows this "http://pastebin.com/d40a9f49d" any help would be awesome
[20:06] <linuxkrn> hey all, I'm using apt-proxy to cache my files, but starting today I can't seem to find: /ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 on any servers
[20:07] <niklauz> woden_: you may need to install extra software? do you already have gpg support installed?
[20:07] <woden_> niklauz:  Maybe not I will check.
[20:07] <gnutron> woden_: pgp keys will work, you'll need gnupg package
[20:07] <mphill> woden_: you name strlen have to be > than 5
[20:08] <mphill> type your full name
[20:08] <gnutron> woden_: gpg keys will work, you'll need gnupg package, sorry.
[20:08] <ruben_desktop_pc> hey guys I am having a problem with ubuntu where do i ask for help?
[20:08] <rafting> I use vista interface but im not doing what i think im doing apparently
[20:08] <mphill> gnutron: intrepid comes with seahorse, its ready to go..
[20:08] <Slart> ruben_desktop_pc: this is the place.. just ask
[20:08] <woden_> mphill:  Yea, that's weird that it has to be 5 characters or more.  What if I don't want to put in any private information here?   The string length is a funcion of the hashing algoritm and security
[20:09] <mintonr> Hi everyone!
[20:09] <jamesclayden0127> got it
[20:09] <ruben_desktop_pc> Ok Ubuntu was working fine and everything but had no 3d support so after updating my packages and rebooting I installed the latest nvidia driver now all I get is the console window how do i fix it?
[20:09] <jamesclayden0127> thanks
[20:09] <moDumass> !xrandr
[20:10] <zanberdo>  I have associated an application with the automouting of my ipod device.  How can I remove this association?
[20:10] <ptux> salve a tutti
[20:10] <mintonr> I installed Ubuntu and I can connect to my wireless net connection, but can't browse the net or update software packages.... Help please!
[20:10] <moDumass> what would one do if xrandr only shows 1 monitor running at 640x480?
[20:10] <ptux> qualcuno mi spiega come funziona enigmail?
[20:10] <Buster_Hymen> Is it possible to do a command line only installation on a USB flash drive?
[20:10] <ptux> in particolare: come si determina quale è la mia "public key"?
[20:10] <Slart> !it | ptux
[20:10] <woden_> mphill:  The string length of the *password" is a function of the hashing algorithm and security, you mean?  I'd assume that my "Full Name" is irrelevant to anything?
[20:11] <ptux> ops, sorry.
[20:11] <Slart> ptux: =)
[20:11] <ruben_desktop_pc> can I ask someone the question for my problem via PM?
[20:11] <gnutron> mphill: thanks, didn't know about seahorse and plugin.
[20:11] <ruben_desktop_pc> too many others in here :P
[20:11] <rafting> It seems impossible to figure out wireless+ubuntu+vista.
[20:11] <niklauzw> ruben_desktop_pc: try installing and running envyng from cmdline, that should do it
[20:11] <ptux> i just configured enigmail in thunderbird, but i don't know what's my public key.
[20:11] <ptux> can someone help me?
[20:11] <ruben_desktop_pc> I tried envyng and it gave me the same problem
[20:12] <mintonr> I need some help getting my internet to wrk
[20:12] <niklauzw> ruben_desktop_pc: takes a while to type :)
[20:12] <Slart> ptux: don't you generate a key in enigmail?
[20:12] <moDumass> how do i add a screen size to xrandr?
[20:12] <mphill> woden_: encryption is very strange. I meant full name.  It might be seahorse itself though.
[20:12] <hacked_kernel> how to check if a module is loaded or not?
[20:12] <ptux> yes, but it doesn't show me my public key, or i 've not recognized it..
[20:12] <Slart> hacked_kernel: modprobe -l or lsmod
[20:12] <CharlieBrown> Install
[20:12] <niklauzw> ruben_desktop_pc:  same problem w/ different kernel? try a previous one
[20:12] <rafting> is it easy to get wired internet to work with ubuntu?
[20:12] <CharlieBrown> install 'wicd' for the network manager ... works better.
[20:13] <archman> rafting: its outof the box in most of the cases
[20:13] <mintonr> how can I install WICD when I can't access the internet?
[20:13] <ruben_desktop_pc> see I tried it with ubuntu's defualt one and the updated one and both gave the same result
[20:13] <ruben_desktop_pc> ubuntu 8.10
[20:13] <jamesclayden0127> kinda on the same question that i asked before how do i find the command to run a program?
[20:13] <ultratek> how do i install google earth from the terminal?
[20:13] <woden_> mphill:  I don't think the length of characters in my name is in any way related to the strength of the hash algorithm
[20:14] <CharlieBrown> mintonr: Do you have a wired network connection or just wireless?
[20:14] <archman> ultratek: sudo apt-get install googleearth
[20:14] <hacked_kernel> Slart, modprop -l shows the module while lsmod not, is it ok?
[20:14] <mintonr> I have wireless in the house and It says its connected to the net, but i cant browse or update
[20:14] <moDumass> hey there, does anyone know how to change the xrandr file?
[20:14] <bobslaede> hey people, is there a tool to "fix" vista from within ubuntu, i'm trying to fix a buddy of mines laptop, and i just havent got any idea as what to do with this vista stuff
[20:14] <moDumass> is it even a file?
[20:15] <bobslaede> something like a virus scanner for windows, from within linux
[20:15] <carnage__> hey, how do i recover grub from the livecd?  i installed windows over the mbr but my ubuntu partition is still there
[20:15] <ultratek> archman it came back with this line:
[20:15] <Slart> hacked_kernel: ah.. modprobe -l shows all modules.. lsmod only shows the ones that are loaded I think
[20:15] <ultratek> E: Couldn't find package googleearth
[20:15] <CharlieBrown> mintonr: if you can directly connect your computer with an ethernet cable to your modem/router, do that then down load WICD
[20:15] <Slart> bobslaede: clamav might work
[20:15] <ad3m> hallo
[20:15] <mintonr> Where do I download from?
[20:15] <bobslaede> thanks Slart
[20:15] <ad3m> hallo
[20:16] <mintonr> Can I download from another computer onto a flash drive and install?
[20:16] <archman> ultratek: you need to setup repositories sudo gedit /etc/apt-sources or something liek that
[20:16] <CharlieBrown> mintonr: lemme find exact command to install wicd
[20:16] <mintonr> ok
[20:16] <ultratek> if i download the bin from google how do i install the bin
[20:16] <ad3m> who speaks German
[20:16] <jpds> !de | ad3m
[20:17] <gnutron> ultratek: chmod u+x file.bin  then execute it, ./file.bin
[20:17] <mintonr> Thanks for the help.
[20:17] <ad3m> thanks
[20:17] <archman> ultratek: you on hardy?
[20:17] <Ax-Ax> my flux keys stops working randomly what could be causing it? :S
[20:18] <ultratek> no
[20:18] <CharlieBrown> mintonr: go here: http://wicd.soureforge.net and follow directions in the download tab. you might be able to download it to a flash drive and transfer it.
[20:18] <gnutron> ultratek: care to be more specific?
[20:18] <moDumass> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:18] <moDumass>  doesnt ask me anything about screen res, nothing about screen res even comes into play
[20:18] <ultratek> whats hardy?
[20:19] <gnutron> ultratek: nevermind. prefix your answers with a nickname is good etiqette
[20:19] <moDumass> ultratek its the prev release of ubuntu
[20:19] <ultratek> i just dl linux for my first time this morning
[20:19] <b1gbawx> hey guys do you know why my external harddrive isnt showing in ubuntu but it does in windows.
[20:20] <ultratek> modumass: i have 8.10
[20:20] <houmala> what dio i have to do to get googleearthlinux.bin to run ???
[20:20] <erki> Is there any way to get the default window manager to open new programs in the workspace I was in when I initiated the launch, instead of whatever workspace I happen to be in when the program decides to draw it's main window?
[20:20] <mphill> b1gbawx: how is the drive connected
[20:20] <b1gbawx> usb
[20:20] <moDumass> ultratek, thats intrepid
[20:20] <CharlieBrown> ultratek: Hardy (8.04) is the previous release of Ubuntu. Intrepid is the latest (8.10)
[20:20] <b1gbawx> it was working fine with ubuntu earlier
[20:20] <b1gbawx> now its not showing up in my media folder either
[20:20] <moDumass> ultratek, the newest version. 1 newer than hardy
[20:20] <b1gbawx> but it works in windows
[20:20] <ultratek> ohh
[20:21] <dekkong> Hi guys! Suddenly I dont have any sound in totem player! but in vlc amarok etc i have! what could be the problem=
[20:21] <CharlieBrown> New Ubuntu's are released every 6 months or so. Hence the version number 8--> 2008, 10-->October
[20:22] <gnutron> houmala:  chmod u+x file.bin  then execute it, ./file.bin
[20:22] <gnutron> houmala: use the googleearth name of course.
[20:22] <b1gbawx> do i need the mount my external hd or something
[20:23] <archman> ultratek: which ubuntu version you have?
[20:23] <archman> ultratek: 8.10 ok
[20:23] <archman> just a sec
[20:23] <mphill> b1gbawx: b1gbawx the auto mouter should pick it up
[20:24] <b1gbawx> it did pick it up earlier today now im not getting anything but it works in windows
[20:24] <mphill> b1gbawx: unplug it, and plug it back in then rugnt dmesg from the command line
[20:24] <mphill> rugnt = run
[20:24] <mphill> oops
[20:24] <ultratek> yea 8.10
[20:25] <CharlieBrown> blgbawx: is the drive an external USB?
[20:25] <b1gbawx> yah its usb
[20:25] <b1gbawx> its a my book
[20:25] <n8tuser2> b1gbawx-> sudo /etc/init.d/hal  restart      as last resort to re-detect it
[20:25] <b1gbawx> ok
[20:26] <Fenix|work> does 8.1 live cd have open-sshd installed?
[20:26] <ramon_> i want to run .deb file i have in my desktop as root....i am using intrepid
[20:26] <ultratek> the view port in google earth is a lil choppy...what can i do to fix this if possible?
[20:26] <magnetron> Fenix|work⋙ you can install it as soon as you have booted it
[20:26] <gnutron> ramon_: dpkg -i filename.deb to install, prefix command with sudo
[20:26] <CharlieBrown> ramon_: type: dpkg --install <name>.deb at the command line
[20:26] <mphill> ramon_: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[20:26] <skorasaurus> beat me to it.
[20:26] <skorasaurus> heh
[20:27] <skorasaurus> :p
[20:27] <CharlieBrown> ah, -i works too ;)
[20:27] <onton> Привет
[20:27] <fang0654> is it possible to have networkmanager manage a bridge device (br0) as a wired link?
[20:27] <gnutron> !ru | onton
[20:27] <onton> пидоры тупые :)
[20:27] <archman> ultratek: what? u installed it already?
[20:27] <ChotaZ> Hello, its me again
[20:28] <Pnux> hey, any other software for taking screenshots that will allow me to take it even if i click on a menu?
[20:28] <ChotaZ> i have a question
[20:28] <clooluss> Hi. I have an upgrade problem: "Not all updates can be installed" - it tells me to do a partial upgrade, but if i do that it tells me "not all packages could be authenticated" The list of software it mentions seems to be mainly OOo. I have the OOo repository in my software sources. Intrepid 64bit.
[20:28] <ChotaZ> when i was upgrading 8.04 yo 8.10 i got a message saying that an error occured reading or writting information to configure NAutilus
[20:28] <ultratek> yea
[20:28] <ultratek> archman: yes
[20:28] <gnutron> Pnux: print-screen button should do the trick.
[20:29] <Pnux> thanks gnutron, gonna try it
[20:29] <clooluss> Ooops... fell offline. Did I missanything?
[20:29] <Fenix|work> clooluss, just the Dixie Chicks
[20:29] <b1gbawx> my external hd stopped working when i disabled gnome from starting up when ubuntu started up. do you think that is what is causing my external hd not to detect now?
[20:29] <Fenix|work> and Led Zepellin
[20:30] <Fenix|work> Zeppelin
[20:30] <Fenix|work> err
[20:30] <clooluss> =-)
[20:30] <tritium> !enter | Fenix|work
[20:30] <Fenix|work> ooops
[20:30] <nxxs> hi all!
[20:30] <fang0654> cloosuss: You can probably reboot, and do the upgrade again, and it should pick up the rest of trhe packages
[20:30] <gnutron> paging led zeppelin.... joke, sorry.
[20:30] <fang0654> cloosuss:  It probably has some dependencies on a new kernel that got installed
[20:30] <Pnux> gnutron, do you know the name of the one that is preinstalled?
[20:30] <ChotaZ> when i was upgrading 8.04 yo 8.10 i got a message saying that an error occured reading or writting information to configure NAutilus
[20:30] <gnutron> Pnux: no sorry.
[20:30] <nxxs> how does one edit metadata of multimediafiles in avi-containers under ubuntu 8.10?
[20:31] <ChotaZ> what am i supposed to do?
[20:31] <clooluss> fang0654: I've tried that, have had this problem a few days. Reboot at least once a day.
[20:31] <b1gbawx> does anyone have the command to re enable gnome on startup
[20:31] <Fenix|work> Thanks tritium ... although I think most here can police themselves quite nicely, it's nice to know there is someone who cares
[20:31] <sharperguy> When building a package with dh_make, how do I change the distro it is going to build for?
[20:32] <clooluss> fang: Has there been a new kernel release lately? This was a frsh-from-cd install of ibex, not an upgrade from Hardy.
[20:32] <fang0654> clooluss: pretty sure there was one a couple days ago
[20:32] <clooluss> fang: OK, how do I fix it?
[20:32] <Pnux> clooluss, yea like two weeks ago
[20:32] <tritium> Fenix|work: it was a tad offtopic, but I let it go.
[20:32] <gnutron> b1gbawx: update-rc.d gdm start  or 'on' maybe, not sure
[20:32] <fang0654> clooluss: Did you do the partial upgrade?
[20:33] <b1gbawx> i just want to see if its causing my external hd not to work
[20:33] <clooluss> Fang: I try to, but it doesn't work. I says that packages can't be authenticated, and then lists a bunch of OOo stuff.
[20:33] <fang0654> clooluss: There isn't an option to continue anyway?
[20:33] <clooluss> I run OOo 3.0 from the OOo repository, not 2.X from the standard repo.
[20:34] <ramon_> i am having problem with playing flash videos (youtube) on firefox...using intrepid
[20:34] <Fenix|work> tritium, it was actually humour AND it made someone smile... soooo it was win-win for the whole 'make the users feel welcome' experience that is ever so important here... but again this is off topic, I better start talking ubuntu and become a dull boy.
[20:34] <Pici> clooluss: Are you referring to the OOo PPA?
[20:35] <tritium> Fenix|work: which is why I let it go.  All is good.  No worries.
[20:35] <jshriver> greetings
[20:35] <jshriver> how can I print from the cli? I tried lp lpr but gives me an error
[20:35] <jshriver> Printing from any X app is perfect
[20:35] <clooluss> Fang: No. "It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem... try aagin later... see below for list of unauthed packages." I ddon't think it is a transient network problem. Or if it is a netowrk problem, it isn't a transient one - this has been going on since tuesday or wednesday.
[20:35]  * B0ngFrOg is pulling my hair out trying to get a layla20 to show me all the channels (dig and analog) I have a .asoundrc but get a error over it.   (the .asound works on this maching with FC9).  Any ideas?
[20:36] <ramon_> does anyone knows how to fix this on firefox with intrepid?
[20:36] <gnutron> jshriver: pipe output to 'lpr'
[20:36] <clooluss> Pici: Yeah, pp.launchpad...openoffice...intrepid. something like that
[20:37] <jshriver> lpr: Error - no default destination available.
[20:37] <fang0654> clooluss: What about if you do a sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:37] <ramon_> intrepid...what a mess
[20:37] <jshriver> I only have one printer and it's set to default in cups
[20:37] <juanez> how do i add stuff to xorg.conf in ubuntu 8.10 . seems as if the xorg.conf is extremely small these days and "stuff" (keyboard etc) are automagically setup elsewhere. More specifically i'd like to get this working; http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Logitech_UltraX_Media_Remote
[20:37] <Pici> clooluss: PPAs do not currently offer the ability to be signed.  So you *will* get an error regarding unauthenticated updates.
[20:37] <KrimZon> is there a way to have one specific mounted volume not appear on the desktop? i don't want my ntfs partition on the linux drive to show on the desktop but everything else should
[20:37] <linuxkrn> hey all, I'm using apt-proxy to cache my files, but starting today I can't seem to find: /ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 on any servers.  Anyone know why or what is pulling it?
[20:38] <tritium> !flash | ramon_
[20:38] <clooluss> fang:Reading package lists... Done
[20:38] <clooluss> Building dependency tree
[20:38] <clooluss> Reading state information... Done
[20:38] <clooluss> The following packages have been kept back:
[20:38] <clooluss>   openoffice.org-base-core openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-core
[20:38] <clooluss>   openoffice.org-writer python-uno
[20:38] <FloodBot2> clooluss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <fang0654> clooluss: err update, then upgrade :)
[20:38] <gnutron> jshriver: set default printer? i dunno
[20:38] <B0ngFrOg> any alsa gurus in here???
[20:38] <hatter243> ramon_, are you speaking about the 100% cpu flash/firefox problem?
[20:38] <nickla1> ubuntu or linux mint? and why?
[20:38] <ramon_> tritium synaptic is broken now
[20:38] <sinbox> #alsa B0ngFrOg
[20:39] <gnutron> jshriver: i see you did that, sorry, try like ls -l | lpr
[20:39] <tritium> ramon_: no, it works
[20:39] <clooluss> pici: wil this affect other updates that come through synaptec?
[20:39] <Pici> clooluss: No.
[20:40] <ramon_> i have synaptic broken...i know there  is something i can do on the terminal
[20:40] <B0ngFrOg> sinbox _   I'll look there alsa .  g rin   thanks
[20:40] <Pici> clooluss: Launchpad will be offering signed PPAs in the next week or so.   I'll wait it out. Thanks to Fang too.
[20:41] <derklempner> Is it common to receive errors when trying to copy files from a network drive that uses NTFS?
[20:42] <ramon_> i feel like i have ubuntu for first time
[20:42] <fang0654> Is it possible to have network manager control a bridge interface as a wired interface?
[20:42] <clooluss> pici: One last question: Will I have to do anything when these signed thingies come in? Or will it all "just work"
[20:43] <ramon_> ok i need to shill..let me smoke this and i will be back
[20:43] <webas> how can download ndisgtk for hardy?
[20:43] <Pici> clooluss: You'll probably be prompted with a different error.  I'm not sure how it would be worded though.
[20:43] <berry> My first Linux install just a minute ago :)
[20:43] <gnutron> ramon_: sudo aptitude install synaptic
[20:44] <|REM|> how can i do a grep that searches for all files on the system that have a certain extension?
[20:44] <clooluss> pici: Ok, see you here next week then=-)
[20:44] <clooluss> berry: How did it go?
[20:44] <tritium> gnutron: it is installed by default
[20:44] <fang0654> |REM|: find / -iname "*.extension"
[20:44] <Pici> |REM|: Use find.  find -iname "*.ext" /some/path/
[20:44] <rafting> my head explodes. how can I check f I have the necessary stuff to get wireless working? what  are the components, how do I find them and how do I chekc if they work? because now I cant even figure out what the actual error is!!!!!!!
[20:44] <|REM|> great thank you
[20:44] <gnutron> tritium: he messed it up
[20:45] <tritium> gnutron: I know, but he never explained how, or what he meant.
[20:45] <berry> Clooluss: A few minor graphical errors.. updating Kernel doesnt work.... otherwise OK
[20:45] <Photoguy> Skype no sound?
[20:45] <Photoguy> What next?
[20:45] <gnutron> tritium: nod.
[20:45] <Slade605> Hey guys, just got some questions, looking for intel 945 GME graphic chipset drivers? intel.com download center sent me in loops where else can I check?
[20:45] <gnutron> !wifi | rafting
[20:46] <clooluss> berry: What flavour of Ubuntu? When I first installed Xubuntu I had some minor graphical glitches.
[20:46] <tritium> Slade605: there's nothing you need to install.  It will work automatically.
[20:46] <fang0654> Slade: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810
[20:46] <bavardage> would anyone be interested in packaging something of mine for ubuntu?
[20:46] <Photoguy> Need a quick question answered...
[20:47] <bavardage> since I don't use ubuntu, I believe it would be awkward for me to package it
[20:47] <Photoguy> Skype has no sound Skype 2.0 ubuntu 8.10
[20:47] <clooluss> photoguy: better ask your question then.
[20:47] <gravityeyelids> I'm having a hard time trying to understand the relationship between ALSA and Pulseaudio. Any tips?
[20:47] <gravityeyelids> Are there any tools to specify whether ALSA should output to physical card or Pulseaudio?
[20:47] <tritium> fang0654: xserver-xorg-video-intel, which should already be installed
[20:47] <berry> clooluss: ahem... 8.10 desktop edition
[20:47] <rafting> gnutron: yeah Ive seen that link a thousand times
[20:47] <berry> shit, ive got soooo many guestion about this OS...
[20:47] <gnutron> rafting: best i could do, you're not alone
[20:48] <bavardage> berry: well maybe you're in the correct place
[20:48] <tritium> berry: language, please
[20:48] <fang0654> tritium: Both will work, I believe.  I remember when I set up my laptop, I had to install the 810 driver in order to get the video working correctly
[20:48] <dekkong> Hello guys! My mother has a HP 6715s laptop. I'm running Ubuntu Live CD on it and it's so slow ..really slow there must be something wrong with it. Does anyone if the support of Ubuntu for this 6715s HP laptop is poor?
[20:48] <Photoguy> Skype has no sound Skype 2.0 ubuntu 8.10.
[20:48] <gnutron> gravityeyelids: hrm try asoundconf list  in a terminal  asoundconf --usage
[20:49] <ChotaZ> I'm about to quit.
[20:49] <macrossotaku> dekkong, livecds are slow
[20:49] <joaopinto> Photoguy, I have you set the playback device to pulseaudio ?
[20:49] <dekkong> macrossotaku: not this slow
[20:49] <ChotaZ> It's the second time this is happening to me.
[20:49] <macrossotaku> specs?
[20:49] <Photoguy> No, how do you do that?
[20:49] <dekkong> macrossotaku: i've been running live cd many times
[20:49] <mintonr> I cant get my internet connection to work
[20:49] <ChotaZ> I did a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, upgraded to 8.10, installed kubuntu, and no kde, kmenu or anything krelated but kdm
[20:49] <ChotaZ> <.<
[20:49] <Slade605> tritium fang0654 thanks for the help guys, I think I got it from here
[20:50] <quackquack> bonsoir
[20:50] <bavardage> bonsoir
[20:50] <tritium> !fr
[20:50] <bavardage> shh
[20:50] <joaopinto> Photoguy, check the skype audio setup options
[20:50] <Photoguy> Ok
[20:50] <mintonr> can anyone help me get my internet connection working
[20:51] <mintonr> The network manager connected successfully but i can't download updates, or browse the net
[20:51] <nickla1> but ubuntu is the absolutley largest and most popular distro?
[20:51] <tritium> nickla1: yes
[20:51] <Photoguy> OK thanks!
[20:51] <ChotaZ> Can anyone help me?
[20:51] <ChotaZ> I did a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, upgraded to 8.10, installed kubuntu, and no kde, kmenu or anything krelated but kdm
[20:51] <rafting> Realtek RTL8187B Wireless 802.11b/g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network Adapter, anyone have that card?
[20:51] <mintonr> The network manager connected successfully but i can't download updates, or browse the net
[20:52] <gravityeyelids> gnutron: I've tried asoundconfig unset-pulseaudio, but it does not seem to help
[20:52] <fang0654> mintonr: if you type ifconfig from a terminal, does it show an IP address?
[20:52] <nickla1> tritium: based on what?
[20:52] <ChotaZ> Can't anyone help me???
[20:53] <kfir> is it possible to install ubuntu from a DOK after i've loaded it with a CD? (my cd driver is in a bad shape..)
[20:53] <gnutron> gravityeyelids: i spent hours last night fixing sound after intrepid upgrade, i removed pulseaudio, your mileage may vary. it was grueling
[20:53] <Cosmo-san> how do I get a terminal to go to a network folder?  This is a VMware Ubuntu install on XP.  the network is shared and I can get a folder there, but I need to compile code on the XP machine.  cd smb:// is not working.  suggestions?
[20:54] <fang0654> ChotaZ: Did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[20:54] <dman777> i got my first router today. it's a dlink for $30.00 (wired). i am just using it for a single pc. every few minutes my pages stall out and i have to wait a minute to get the internet connection going again. are all routers like this?
[20:54] <ChotaZ> i did
[20:54] <ChotaZ> I did a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, upgraded to 8.10, installed kubuntu, and no kde, kmenu or anything krelated but kdm
[20:54] <ChotaZ> AFter sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:54] <agustin> hello guys how did i do to install remastersysy in ubuntu intrepid ibex
[20:55] <danaka> is there a good disk manager/formatter that has a GUI?
[20:55] <ChotaZ> i restarted, it onload KUBUNTU, and loaded it again on restart, kdm showed up, but after login, i get gnome menus and style and background
[20:55] <gravityeyelids> gnutrom: I wan't to be able to use Pulse when I'm at home (got a server connected to my speakers)
[20:55] <ChotaZ> and says that the sesion amanger closed unexpectedly
[20:55] <dman777> danaka: i beleive gfdisk
[20:55] <Cosmo-san> dman777: no
[20:55] <danaka> ...
[20:55] <gnutron> gravityeyelids: pulse worked fine under hardy for me
[20:55] <fang0654> Chotaz: At the logon screen, click on options in the bottom left hand corner, click Select session, and select KDE
[20:55] <dman777> Cosmo-san: to the router or gfdisk?
[20:55] <Photoguy> What should I set for audio in in skype?
[20:55] <CarlFK> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found - anyone know what package provides that?
[20:55] <Cosmo-san> the router, sorry.'
[20:56] <dman777> lol
[20:56] <zsquareplusc> danaka: gpated? its in the system->admin menu
[20:56] <dman777> Cosmo-san: is it because it's so cheap?
[20:56] <zsquareplusc> parted..
[20:56] <agustin> asny
[20:56] <agustin> any
[20:56] <danaka> oh yeaa gparted
[20:56] <danaka> thanks
[20:56] <Photoguy> What should I set for audio in in skype?
[20:57] <Cosmo-san> could be.  could be the outside network connection, could be a faulty router, but probably not an ubuntu question
[20:57] <joaopinto> Photoguy, for the playback, pulseaudio
[20:57] <agustin> Photoguy, what sound card do you have?
[20:57] <Photoguy> Umm ,I don't know.
[20:57] <joaopinto> for the input device, select your device hw
[20:57] <CarlFK> libgtk2.0-dev   yay
[20:57] <Pnux> hey, i just installed KSnapshot, how do i set it to override ubuntu's snapshot taker?
[20:57] <Photoguy> It;s a dell.
[20:57] <gravityeyelids> gnutron: Pulseaudio server wont start at all in my intrepid
[20:57] <ChotaZ> WTF! I tried loging off but i got a screen with a bunch of colors and random letters
[20:57] <ChotaZ> <.<
[20:57] <agustin> anyone can tellme how to install remastersys in ubuntu intrepid
[20:58] <dman777> does qparted have full functionality as gfdisk?
[20:58] <fang0654> ChotaZ: No clue on that one.  If it is locked you can try a ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[20:59] <grendal_prime> ok i cant believe im asking this but ummm...is there a frontside tool for ssh that could use to setup severall port forwarding configs (and like bookmark them)?
[20:59] <ChotaZ> I restarted and i could get into the login screen again, selected KDE, but after login in i got a box with 1 hdd image in it
[20:59] <dman777> grendal_prime: putty?
[20:59] <ChotaZ> as i clicked it, the box disapeared and now all i have is kdm background
[21:00] <grendal_prime> I mean i could build my own scripts but the thing is i have a feeling i will at some point have to pass this administration off to someone.  Putty for linux?
[21:00] <dman777> grendal_prime: ya. got it on my laptop
[21:00] <LjL> grendal_prime: not following you, what does SSH have to do with port forwarding?
[21:01] <Steffan> Hi everyone
[21:01] <mintonr> The network manager connected successfully but i can't download updates, or browse the net
[21:01] <will__> Kubuntu with KDE 4: How stable and integrated is this at the moment?
[21:01] <dman777> grendal_prime: but i'm not sure putty will do what you are looking for, will it?
[21:02] <ChotaZ> Guys
[21:02] <grendal_prime> wholy shit...thanks man there it is...see i never even thought to look for a linux version of putty..Mainly becuse ive always been under the impresson of (why screww up a perfectly good app like ssh) hehehe
[21:02] <ChotaZ> I just managed to login, everything seems to be working fine now, but my screen blinks a lot, the computer is about new, any guesses?
[21:02] <grendal_prime> well the windows version of it does..
[21:02] <Steffan> I have a webcam connected to my laptop, to test it i tried 'sudo cat /dev/video0', but it did not output some 'garbage'. It did say 'segmentation fault', ubuntu hanged and the scrlck and capslock led blinked. What does that mean?
[21:02] <Steffan> Kernel panic?
[21:02] <grendal_prime> your webcam does not work?
[21:02] <locohost> why would you want to use putty in linux?
[21:02] <CarlFK> Steffan: yep
[21:03] <smacfarl> anyone install amarok 2.0 on gnome yet? kubuntu has an adept package do I need to have a synaptic one?
[21:03] <dman777> grendal_prime: but i'm not sure if putty does port fowarding. do you know off hand if it does?
[21:03] <mintonr> The network manager connected successfully but i can't download updates, or browse the net
[21:03] <LjL> smacfarl, Adept and Synaptic use the very same packages. they're just different frontends to the same APT packaging management system.
[21:03] <came0> hey where is the log file where my the commands I type into xterminal?
[21:03] <gnutron> Steffan: it didnt like that command :)
[21:03] <Steffan> yes, but why not?
[21:04] <gnutron> came0: /var/log/
[21:04] <grendal_prime> ok here comes the "banter" I dont want to use putty someone else does not want to use a ...and i quote "command line like appthing"
[21:04] <came0> gnutron: thx
[21:04] <locohost> you can create ssh tunnels with putty
[21:04] <dman777> came0: most likely /var/log/X11/
[21:04] <locohost> or, almost any ssh client
[21:04] <grendal_prime> ya dman777 it does tunnels just fine
[21:04] <smacfarl> LjL: So I added the ppa line from the kubuntu page into the synaptic settings and reloaded, and am not seeing the package when I search on amarok? What am I missing?
[21:04] <mintonr> can anyone help? I have connected to my wireless network but can't browse the net or download updates/packages
[21:04] <grendal_prime> well at lest the current windows version of it..
[21:04] <gnutron> Steffan: it tried to concatenate a video device, not a normal thing that i know of.
[21:04] <cexpert1> All: I had a MB Nic, plus 2, on my 7.10 server and just pulled.  Where is a HOWTO on resetting these?  I have static IP in the /etc/network/interfaces file and not finding the help I need.
[21:04] <grendal_prime> i have to test it with my windows test machine
[21:05] <dman777> grendal_prime: wow. i didn't know port fowarding was tunnelling. haha...that's funny about that person. i think putty is pretty friendly
[21:05] <Monie> Hey, I'm trying to run ubuntu 7.10 on mac os x ppc, but a box comes up saying busybox
[21:05] <LjL> smacfarl: do you remember what the package was called? (or can you give me a link to the PPA?)
[21:05] <Steffan> gnutron, ok it is not normal... but it should not crash
[21:05] <Monie> What do I type to get ubuntu running?
[21:05] <locohost> well, port forwarding is not tunneling
[21:05] <dman777> grendal_prime: ya, the putty on linux is the exact same as windows
[21:05] <Steffan> gnutron, it should be 'fool' proof :P
[21:05] <SkittleLinux18_> hey, does anyone here know the terminal command to update adept in kubuntu??
[21:05] <smacfarl> LjL:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[21:05] <grendal_prime> well the port forwarding through ssh is what im talking about
[21:05] <TBotNik> All: I had a MB Nic, plus 2, on my 7.10 server and just pulled.  Where is a HOWTO on resetting these?  I have static IP in the /etc/network/interfaces file and not finding the help I need.
[21:05] <will__> SkittleLinux18_: sudo apt-get update
[21:05] <locohost> but, you can tunnel a port that is not forwarded/natted/etc/ through a port that is forwarded,
[21:05] <juanez> anyone know how to hack the xorg.conf in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[21:05] <gnutron> Steffan: i would have expected screen garbage, but crash, yes very possible, no harm done tho'
[21:06] <LjL> smacfarl: what does "apt-cache show amarok-kde4" tell you?
[21:06] <Static--> how do i empty root trash can?
[21:06] <Static--> on 8.10
[21:06] <dman777> juanez: what do you mean by hack?
[21:06] <mintonr> I can't connect to the internet through the latest 8.10 build. I connected to my wirless network but cant browse the internet or download updates
[21:06] <ikonia> !trash > Static--
[21:06] <SkittleLinux18_> will__: that's apt-get. i need to the command to update adept package manager
[21:06] <locohost> do you have an ip, routs?
[21:06] <juanez> dman777: make changes to xorg.conf ... seems as if ubuntu 8,10 seriously changed it
[21:06] <gnutron> Steffan: be careful what you type, you just might get it!
[21:06] <LjL> SkittleLinux18_: same thing.
[21:07] <TBotNik> All:  Did you understand my Q or do I need to reword?
[21:07] <Alexplay> There's nothing wrong if i remove "interface-mtu," line in dhclient.conf? because i don't want it to reset my MTU everytime i run dhclient, i removed it and all seems ok and works like i want, but will this cause any problems?
[21:07] <LjL> SkittleLinux18_: they're both just front-ends to APT, an update will update the other.
[21:07] <dman777> juanez: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:07] <juanez> dman777: yes, that file
[21:07] <Monie> Anyone know how I can get ubuntu to run, just something comes up saying busybox
[21:07] <smacfarl> LJL: It says the package is amarok-kde4 and a lot of other stuff this seems like a good response.
[21:07] <SkittleLinux18_> really?? hmm... good to know. I was given one yesterday that was a bit longer, but I don't remember it.
[21:07] <dman777> juanez: why not just edit the file?
[21:07] <juanez> dman777: doesnt work any longer it seems
[21:07] <LjL> smacfarl: then i don't know why you don't see it in Synaptic (you definitely should), but you can install it with "sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4"
[21:07] <mintonr> Can anyone help me with an internet issue?
[21:08] <grendal_prime> thanks dman777 that should do the trick ...also now when i make my flash animation tut's i dont have to do those on the windows machine since the interface looks almost identical
[21:08] <dman777> juanez: what is it that you want to change?
[21:08] <Steffan> gnutron, huh? Might get crashes when i type 'cat /dev/video0' :S
[21:08] <juanez> dman777: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Logitech_UltraX_Media_Remote
[21:08] <smacfarl> BTW I think since we bailed out the banks, and we're talking about bailing out the auto companies we should have a public works project for gnome and kde devs.
[21:08] <juanez> like to add that in xorg.conf
[21:08] <juanez> but no go
[21:08] <LjL> smacfarl: does it say the version is 2.0?
[21:08] <locohost> mintor, you ignored my question to you
[21:08] <ikonia> juanez: you can edit your xorg conf the same as every other release
[21:08] <grendal_prime> bail out opensource?
[21:08] <dman777> juanez: you might want to try to put it in the server section
[21:08] <grendal_prime> we all get a million dollar check?
[21:08] <mintonr> I must have missed it...
[21:09] <smacfarl> LjL: Version 2.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1 which looks like the right one?
[21:09] <dman777> juanez: how old is that tutorial?
[21:09] <LjL> smacfarl: yes
[21:09] <Alexplay> There's nothing wrong if i remove "interface-mtu," line in dhclient.conf? because i don't want it to reset my MTU everytime i run dhclient because it gets configured to 1500 when the interface goes up, i removed it and all seems ok and works like i want, but will this cause any problems?
[21:09] <gnutron> Steffan: /dev/video0  is likely a webcam, cat displays text files, it tried to display a video device in a terminal, not likely to work. i never tried it.
[21:09] <locohost> Do you have an ip, and routes to any networks?
[21:09] <grendal_prime> thats rediculas..now 500,000, not a bad idea (we shouldnt get greedy)
[21:09] <dman777> juanez: oh wait...that's what it saids
[21:09] <Steffan> gnutron, but i can cat my mouse input :D
[21:09] <juanez> dman777: from sept 2007
[21:09] <dman777> juanez: you got the driver installed, yes?
[21:10] <juanez> evdev ? yes
[21:10] <gnutron> Steffan: i've heard of that, yes
[21:10] <Albatross> hello
[21:10] <LjL> Steffan: you "can", doesn't mean it's a good idea, though, since it'll probably result in mangling your terminal and that's it
[21:10] <TBotNik> All: I had a MB NIC, plus 2 3Com NICs, on my Ubuntu 7.10 server and just pulled them.  Was previously using for load balance on proxy server, but not using box that way now.  Where is a HOWTO on resetting these?  I have static IP in the /etc/network/interfaces file and not finding the help I need.  Previous Inet port was the MB NIC but system had ID'd it as eth2, now is eth0, but not coming up on re-boot, even though I change the settings in the "interface"
[21:10] <dman777> juanez:  xorg.conf is still being used. you're gonna have mess with those settings to make it fly.
[21:10] <xhunter> ok
[21:10] <archman> guys how to make file in konsole?
[21:10] <xhunter> HELLO
[21:11] <dman777> juanez: you might want to do a lsusb to make sure you got the device label correct
[21:11] <juanez> dman777: yeah, it's still used.. but seems something's chagned though. becuase they dont swallow the config
[21:11] <Alexplay> someone answer me please
[21:11] <TBotNik> Ifconfig is only showing localhost and no eth ports
[21:11] <zrak> why i can't edit partitions in gparted
[21:11] <mintonr> i have 4 sections when i run the ifconfig,eth0,lo,wlan0,wmaster0-00
[21:11] <deepfriedsquirre> Syslinux says 'Cannot find kernel image: Linux' when I try to boot my LiveUSB made with usb-creator and I don't seem to be able to fix is by changing the paths in syslinux.conf.
[21:11] <dman777> dman777: did you do a modprobe to see if the driver is loaded? or is it in the kernel?
[21:11] <zrak> i want to create a new partition from a existing but all the options are blank
[21:11] <ikonia> Alexplay: it may / may not cause problems depending on your isp
[21:11] <Steffan> archman, echo "test" > test.txt ?
[21:11] <ChotaZ> How can i move widgets within a panel in KDE?
[21:11] <ikonia> Alexplay: we can't say - try it
[21:11] <mintonr> lo has net add of <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:12] <smacfarl> LjL: Will it detect my 1.4 install and suck up the data?
[21:12] <dman777> juanez: : did you do a modprobe to see if the driver is loaded? or is it in the kernel?
[21:12] <Buster_Hymen> is there a config file for programs that auto-start when the system boots?
[21:12] <mintonr> wlan0 has net add of <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:12] <Tumpster> I have a question on evolution, I've walked through the sync settings and it syncs with my palm just fine, now how do i get it to download my info from my palm to evolution and what do i hit in evolution to sync each time I use it?
[21:12] <Albatross> all my programs [i'm in gnome] claim they've run out of space and cant save their add-ons, configurations, and other various things they decide to try and save. I'm on a Wubi installation... what might be the problem? i have tools to grow partitions if i need them
[21:12] <LjL> smacfarl: no idea
[21:12] <Buster_Hymen> i'm trying to autostart a bittorrent client
[21:12] <Alexplay> well, i tried it and it doesn't change my MTU, and i keep my connection to internet
[21:12] <Alexplay> so i guess it's ok
[21:12] <agustin> ANY ONE KNOWS HOW TO INSTALL REMASTERSYSY IN INTREPID AMD64?????!!!!
[21:12] <juanez> lsmod | grep evdev   ----> evdev                  17696  0
[21:12] <ikonia> agustin: don't use caps
[21:12] <xhunter> agree
[21:13] <ikonia> agustin: people can read lower case and it get's peoples backs up as it's classed as "shouting"
[21:13] <juanez> dman777: lsmod | grep evdev   ----> evdev                  17696  0
[21:13] <juanez> dman777: so i guess it is?
[21:13] <smacfarl> LjL: When I find out, is there some community Ubuntu knowledge base I can report the results to, so other people can read what happened?
[21:13] <Tumpster>  I have a question on evolution, I've walked through the sync settings and it syncs with my palm just fine, now how do i get it to download my info from my palm to evolution and what do i hit in evolution to sync each time I use it?
 no caps please
[21:13] <dman777> juanez: ya, looks like that is good. probably a setting in the xorg.conf that has to be changed. that tutorial can be out of date.
[21:14] <Reformer81> Does the Ubuntu 8.10 LiveCD contain the partition editor (other than the one in the install)?
[21:14] <dman777> juanez: i can't imagine xorg.conf not being used.
[21:14] <Reformer81> I've tried two versions of the GParted LiveCD and neither will boot.
[21:14] <juanez> dman777: it is being used, but xorg.conf doesnt set everything up these days.. (less /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see for yourself)
[21:14] <Albatross> Hello. All my programs [i'm in gnome] claim they've run out of space and cant save their add-ons, configurations, and other various things they decide to try and save. I'm on a Wubi installation... what might be the problem? i have tools to grow partitions if i need them. I hate to repeat myself, but i doubt anyone will read it if i dont... perhaps neither if i do.
[21:14] <Monie> Anyone know why on ubuntu 7.10 powerpc, it stops at busybox?
[21:14] <ikonia> Reformer81: you can install gparted on the livecd
[21:15] <LjL> smacfarl: not that i'm aware, i don't see a wiki page for amarok 2
[21:15] <Tumpster> anyone? evolution help
[21:15] <Monie> I'm trying to install it
[21:15] <Buster_Hymen> How do i access auto-started programs in xfce?
[21:15] <dennda> Is there any gnome trayicon tool that allows quick changing of my keyboard layout? if yes: what's it's name?
[21:15] <ChotaZ> Anyone that runs kubuntu?
[21:15] <Buster_Hymen> ChotaZ:  try #kubuntu
[21:15] <Tumpster>  I have a question on evolution, I've walked through the sync settings and it syncs with my palm just fine, now how do i get it to download my info from my palm to evolution and what do i hit in evolution to sync each time I use it?
[21:16] <dman777> Reformer81: why not just use fdisk?
[21:16] <ChotaZ> not this again
[21:16] <Reformer81> dman777: I'm not really comfortable with a command-line partition editor.
[21:16] <Monie> modprobe ide-core
[21:16] <Alexplay> How can i remove the annoying msgs in Pidgin when someone disconnects or connects? it spams my window
[21:16] <Monie> exit
[21:16] <Buster_Hymen> Reformer81:  have you tried gparted?
[21:16] <Monie> Did not work
[21:17] <Monie> :/
[21:17] <FloodBot2> Monie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <Reformer81> ikonia: So it doesn't come with it then? :) Gotcha.
[21:17] <Reformer81> Buster_Hymen: Yes... did you read my original message?
[21:17] <ChotaZ> nice, now my comp froze ate initializing ubuntu
[21:17] <mads-> Hi. I have USB wireless network thingy. Could anyone point me towards a guide to set up a wireless access point on a ubuntu machine? Thanks
[21:17] <ChotaZ> stuck on that part that says
[21:17] <ChotaZ> Checking battery state... [OK]
[21:17] <ikonia> Reformer81: I could be wrong but I thought it does come in it now
[21:17] <Buster_Hymen> Reformer81:  no sorry. i just caught the bit about you not liking command line partition editors (which i totally understand lo)
[21:17] <ikonia> ChotaZ: your using kubuntu
[21:17] <Reformer81> :)
[21:17] <ChotaZ> i am.
[21:18] <ikonia> ChotaZ: you may get better help in #kubuntu
[21:18] <ikonia> ChotaZ: more people using it there
[21:18] <navinshenoy> anybody knows how to get wpa to work with ubuntu 8.1
[21:18] <ChotaZ> the channel wont let me join from
[21:18] <ChotaZ> mibbit.com
[21:18] <ChotaZ> <.<
[21:18] <ikonia> ChotaZ: so ?
[21:18] <mintonr> Any help with an internet connection issue? Network connected, but unable to browse internet adn download
[21:18] <Monie> Any recommendations? :/
[21:18] <webas> wlan mintonr ?
[21:19] <kristian1> Newbie Question : when i check "uptime". it says 2 users, how come? :o ubuntu machine is on, and im logged in via putty, is that why or some other reason?
[21:19] <mintonr> I have a wireless network in the hose with a belkin router
[21:19] <ChotaZ> asfdkoawejçkl
[21:19] <ChotaZ> as
[21:19] <ChotaZ> ´g+sergpt
[21:19] <ChotaZ> ´w+rpeg
[21:19] <FloodBot2> ChotaZ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <ChotaZ> +wprtgpwer+ptwe´ptweprtp
[21:19] <ChotaZ> we+tpwe+´ptrw+pet
[21:19] <ChotaZ> w+erpt+
[21:19] <Buster_Hymen> kristian1:  your phsyical terminal is probably logged on so when you log in via SSH, there are two sessions by the same user
[21:19] <Buster_Hymen> that would be my guess anyway
[21:19] <TBotNik> All, which files contain the modules on U server?
[21:20] <biophile> when I try to boot I keep getting 'error 2', can anyone help?
[21:20] <ruben> ok guys this sucks lol I installed the envy package and now I cant run the gui............
[21:20] <kristian1> Buster_Hymen : thats what i though, but im quite sure i logged off. will i still be on then?
[21:21] <ikonia> !envy > ruben
[21:21] <Buster_Hymen> kristian1:  afaik if the physical terminal is logged off then there should only be one... type "users" into the terminal
[21:21] <danaka> are there any good tutorials on getting 5.1 sound to work in ubuntu?
[21:22] <biophile> !grub > biophile
[21:22] <Buster_Hymen> danaka:  i'd start with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" lol =)
[21:22] <kristian1> Buster_Hymen : ok my user is logged in twice. :-P but there is only one user account on the machine, so there couldnt be any different names anyways.
[21:22] <navinshenoy> wifi help please need to setup wpa
[21:22] <Buster_Hymen> kristian1:  then either you have another open putty session, or an FTP session, or something like that
[21:22] <kristian1> Buster_Hymen : oh, and im running screen with two sessions that might be why. :o
[21:22] <juanez> dman777: just a FYI; seems as if Xorg is moving to HAL and you're supposed to edit HAL
[21:22] <Buster_Hymen> kristian1:  problem solved =)
[21:23] <toastedmilk> I'm having problems installing a driver for my ATI card with intrepid on 64bit.  Any takers?
[21:23] <danaka> wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole
[21:23] <mintonr> I need some help with my wireless internet connection in8.10
[21:23] <toastedmilk> danaka, about mine?
[21:23] <kristian1> Buster_Hymen : problem solved! :-P i ctrl+a+c, and checked users, then it was 3, so yes. :) thanks! :)
[21:23] <navinshenoy> me too monitonr...
[21:23] <Pilot_51> I'm trying to get a couple programs to start through gnome-session-properties, but they won't start
[21:23] <dman777> juanez: interesting
[21:24] <Buster_Hymen> kristian1:  no problem!
[21:24] <Monie> Is there like no support for 7.10 or something?
[21:24] <navinshenoy> looks like No help available  here
[21:24] <biophile> grub won't load, I get 'error 2' and stays there
[21:24] <ruben> ok look I haven't used envy yet but one of the tech guys on here told em to use it
[21:24] <Buster_Hymen> Monie:  7.10 isn't supported anymore ... AFAIK anyway
[21:24] <ruben> the ones with their names in red
[21:24] <Pilot_51> I've been searching Google, but so far can't find anything that solves my problem
[21:24] <toastedmilk> I'm having problems installing a driver for my ATI card with intrepid on 64bit.  Any takers?
[21:24] <Buster_Hymen> Monie:  8.04 is the current LTS version and 8.10 is the most recent
[21:24] <navinshenoy> buster_hymen do u know how to setup wifi wlan with wpa  on 8.10
[21:24] <Monie> Alright, will those work on powerpc?
[21:25] <oreoferret> afternon everyone
[21:25] <ruben> Also I cant seem to get a nvidia driver installed so i can have 3d acceleration for games
[21:25] <mads-> Hi. I have USB wireless network thingy. Could anyone point me towards a guide to set up a wireless access point on a ubuntu machine? Thanks
[21:25] <kebomix> hello , any good programs to create and edit videos on ubuntu ?
 I'm having problems installing a driver for my ATI card with intrepid on 64bit.  Any takers?
[21:25] <oreoferret> so I once ran linux 0.12 (still have the install document on dot matrix printer)
[21:25] <xhunter> the same to you
[21:25] <oreoferret> and after all these years.. I want to run it again hah
[21:26] <j0sh-x1> oreoferret: good evening :D
[21:26] <LjL> kebomix: /join #ubuntu-bots and "list every video editor" will give a few
[21:26] <oreoferret> I can't get Ubuntu (latest version) to work iwth my wireless
[21:26] <ruben> and last tiem i tried to do it the old fashioned way it would make me have console mode only
[21:26] <calc> oreoferret: its a bit better now, first i used was 1.2.4
[21:26] <Buster_Hymen> navinshenoy:  it's bad conduct to ask specific users specific questions... we all saw your question, but people apparently don't know.  =)  that said, what problems are you having?
[21:26] <archman> can anyone pastebin me their wvdial.conf layout?
[21:26] <oreoferret> though I believe that are compatible
[21:26] <biophile> !grub
[21:26] <dman777> juanez: so i want to edit hal i would do it in xorg?
[21:26] <oreoferret> calc - I stopped at 0.96a  around with SLIP and PPP support came out
[21:26] <ikonia> oreoferret: could you take that to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[21:26] <oreoferret> ikonia - sure
[21:26] <toastedmilk> xhunter, In terminal it says it can't run the .run file
[21:26] <ikonia> oreoferret: thanks
[21:26] <navinshenoy> i can get wifi to work with out encryption.. WPA does not work... i need wpa..
[21:26] <toastedmilk> xhunter sudo sh ./PATH
[21:26] <toastedmilk> xhunter, sudo sh ./PATH isn't working
[21:27] <juanez> dman777: nah, i guess you'd have to edit stuff in /etc/hal/*
[21:27] <calc> oreoferret: what wireless do you have?
[21:27] <Buster_Hymen> navinshenoy:  look into wpa supplicant... something like that.   I have connected to the network but cant browse the itnernet or updates
[21:27] <ikonia> dman777: no
[21:27] <Buster_Hymen> navinshenoy:  and know that wifi is a particularly tricky aspect of ubuntu so it might just not be available with your hardware... you should look at the ubuntu wiki to see if your wifi card is supported
[21:27] <navinshenoy> Well i am here after trying to get wpa supplicant to work and failed.. howtos are not very good
[21:28] <juanez> dman777: what? no! xorg.conf will be deprectated i'd guess
[21:28] <juanez> gnite
[21:28] <Firefishe> mintonr: You might go to a terminal and try:  dhclient wlan0 (or whatever your wireless interface is set to)
[21:28] <Buster_Hymen> navinshenoy:  then you're going to need to give us a lot more information.  what did you do? what failed?  what output did you get? do you have any log files?  etc...
[21:28] <mintonr> Ok, ill try that Firefishe
[21:28] <Firefishe> mintonr: Tell me if it works or not.
[21:29] <Photoguy> When an app unsinstalls in Ubuntu does it remove everything?    Because in Windows it sure doesnt;
[21:29] <Buster_Hymen> navinshenoy:  and i really can't help you with any of that... i'm more or less clueless.
[21:29] <slashzul> can u downgrade a ubuntu apache2.2.4 to 2.0 ? How EASY is it?
[21:29] <toastedmilk> xhunter, Can you help?
[21:29] <ikonia> Photoguy: depends on if other things use the dependencies
[21:29] <Firefishe> Photoguy: Generally speaking, yes.  However, the .deb file is probably still in /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:29] <mohbana> what do i need to play wma?
[21:29] <ikonia> slashzul: if there is a package availalbe, not too hard
[21:29] <Photoguy> OK
[21:30] <cppm> photoguy: depends on dependencies, and whether you specify purge to apt
[21:30] <slashzul> ikonia: umm , not sure, but I need a specific apache version
[21:30] <Photoguy> But better than Windows anyway?
[21:30] <mintonr> I get unkown harware address type 801 can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases PERMISSION DENIED
[21:30] <navinshenoy> i think i will give up on this wifi thing until ubuntu support for wpa imporves
[21:30] <ikonia> slashzul: if there is a package - your fine, if there i not, quite awkward
[21:30] <ikonia> mintonr: use sudo
[21:30] <dman777> ikonia: so, hal won't contain xorg, but if i want to edit xorg i do it in a hal config file?
[21:30] <Firefishe> Photoguy: cppm is correct.  The command:  sudo dpkg --purge filename.deb will completely remove it from your system, including the .deb.
[21:31] <biophile> I need help with grub. I keep getting 'error 2' during boot.
[21:31] <ikonia> dman777: no
[21:31] <mintonr> Ikonia: how to use sudo?
[21:31] <ikonia> dman777: just edit xorg.conf
[21:31] <navinshenoy> PPl should not have to waste so much time to get WPA to work,, i have seen plenty of ppl complaining...
[21:31] <ikonia> !sudo > mintonr
[21:31] <Buster_Hymen> does anybody know how to autostart a program in XFCE?
[21:31] <Firefishe> cppm....ummm that *is* correct on my part, right?
[21:31] <mohbana> what do i need to play wma?
[21:31] <dman777> ikonia: how is xorg migrating to hal?
[21:31] <ikonia> dman777: it's not
[21:31] <aeolien> mohbana: Try searching for wma in Add/Remove Programs
[21:31] <ikonia> !codecs > mohbana
[21:31] <Buster_Hymen> navinshenoy:  well it works very well with some chipsets and not at all with others.  you should talk to your wifi card manufacturer to see if they've released drivers for linux
[21:31] <Firefishe> mohbana: Lost of Wild Maniacal Action?  *duck*
[21:32] <Firefishe> Lost=Lots
[21:32] <navinshenoy> ok
[21:32] <dman777> juanez: looks like that may be a false rumor, in less i am misunderstanding
[21:32] <Firefishe> <--can't even get a good joke right for wont of spelgng )
[21:32] <Firefishe> ;) hee
[21:32] <moDumass> hey all, how do i add a screen res and refresh rate to my xrandr?
[21:32] <Pilot_51> Hmm... apparently when I try starting a program with gnome-session-properties the program thinks I'm running it from my home directory, how do I fix that?
[21:32] <ikonia> dman777: what do you want to change
[21:33] <moDumass> because the only choices are 800x600 and 640x480 50 and 51mhz
[21:33] <dman777> ikonia: nothing. i heard xorg was going to migrate to hal
[21:33] <|REM|> now im trying to find a certain string in files with a certain extension.  I am doing: find / -name '*.xxx' -exec grep 'string' {} \;      This seems to work, but when it is printing out the output, it does show me which file it has found the string in...
[21:33] <roukoun> how can i make firefox ignore the gtk themes ?
[21:33] <Firefishe> mohbana: Do this:  /msg ubottu wma
[21:33] <cppm> Firefishe regarding purge, ye
[21:33] <Firefishe> cppm...thank you
[21:33] <|REM|> *does not show me
[21:33] <ikonia> dman777: I've just read some info, it's input devices which are managed by hal, not xorg as a whole
[21:34] <Firefishe> cppm: Didn't want to give him the wrong info, it's been a while, as I don't usually purge my .debs
[21:34] <Pilot_51> In this case I'm trying to run a BF1942 server with this command: /media/sda4/servers/bf1942/bfsmd -daemon -restart -start
[21:34] <mintonr> ikonia: i don't get the permission denied messages, the last says Bound To <IP_ADDRESS>  reneal in<PHONE_NUMBER>7 seconds
[21:34] <dman777> ikonia: ok, that clears it up for me. thanx
[21:34] <biophile> I need help with grub. It keeps giving 'error 2' when booting.
[21:34] <dman777> juanez: is your logitech device managed by hal now?
[21:34] <Pilot_51> bfsmd puts a log file in my home dir, which says this: Couldn't find server binary in /home/pilot51! Use -path to specify server directory and/or verify bf1942_lnxded link exists.
[21:35] <Pilot_51> It works fine when I run the command from terminal
[21:36] <justin__> Hello, can someone help me with Installing Open Office 3?
[21:37] <toastedmilk> I'm having problems installing a driver for my ATI card with intrepid on 64bit.  Any takers?
[21:37] <ikonia> !ati > toastedmilk
[21:37] <mintonr> Firefishe: i get wmaster0: inkown hardware address type 801 listening on, sending on LPF/wlan0/00:16:44
[21:37] <mintonr> sending on Socket/fallback
[21:38] <mintonr> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[21:38] <toastedmilk> ikonia, thanks but seen it and still not working.
[21:38] <ikonia> toastedmilk: what part is not working
[21:38] <Papero> hi all
[21:38] <mintonr> OFFER <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:38] <Firefishe> mintonr: yeah....listen, go ahead and paste output to http://rafb.net/paste
[21:38] <Papero> i've the 7.04
[21:38] <Papero> cd
[21:38] <Alexplay> Can someone please do # cat /etc/sudoers for me?
[21:38] <mintonr> ok
[21:38] <typeofkisses> Hi all, would any of you be able to tell me why this worked in my previous ubuntu but not in 8.10?  Thanks!
[21:38] <typeofkisses> you$ xhost +local:
[21:38] <typeofkisses> you$ su me
[21:38] <typeofkisses> me$ gnome-terminal
[21:38] <typeofkisses> ** (gnome-terminal:6009): WARNING **: Owner of /tmp/orbit-you is not the current user
[21:38] <typeofkisses> [...]
[21:38] <FloodBot2> typeofkisses: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <Firefishe> mintonr: Do you know how to use a pastebin?
[21:38] <ikonia> Papero: 7.04 is not supported
[21:38] <Alexplay> and tell me his output
[21:38] <Papero> i've just installed it, how can I upgrade?
[21:38] <ikonia> Alexplay: why
[21:38] <Papero> source list seems not working
[21:39] <Alexplay> i need to see something
[21:39] <ikonia> Papero: the repos are gone
[21:39] <LjL> Alexplay: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84109/
[21:39] <ikonia> Alexplay: what do you need to see
[21:39] <toastedmilk> ikonia, I can't install the .run x86_64 driver
[21:39] <Firefishe> mintonr: What type of system do you have?  Also, what version of ubuntu/kubuntu?
[21:39] <Papero> ikonia: what can i do_
[21:39] <ikonia> toastedmilk: why - what's the problem
[21:39] <typeofkisses> Oh, sorry about the pasting, I didn't know
[21:39] <toastedmilk> ikonia, sudo sh ./PATH isn't working.
[21:39] <Alexplay> to add me because im not in the sudoers file, so i can't use sudo
[21:39] <ikonia> Papero: upgrade
[21:39] <ikonia> toastedmilk: who told you to do that ?
[21:39] <toastedmilk> ikonia, says it can't open the file
[21:39] <Papero> ikonia: it does not work
[21:39] <LjL> Alexplay: you shouldn't add you.
[21:39] <toastedmilk> ikonia, the ATI website
[21:39] <LjL> Alexplay: you should merely add yourself to the "admin" group.
[21:39] <mads-> Hi. I have USB wireless network thingy. Could anyone point me towards a guide to set up a wireless access point on a ubuntu machine? Thanks
[21:39] <Papero> ikonia: not with my repo, where can I find new ones?
[21:40] <Firefishe> mintonr: Go ahead and paste that there, too.  Please include the output of:  uname -r   in your paste.
[21:40] <Alexplay> yeah that's what i was talking abou
[21:40] <ikonia> Papero: you can't 7.04 is not supported
[21:40] <Alexplay> about*
[21:40] <Alexplay> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[21:40] <Alexplay> that line
[21:40] <FloodBot2> Alexplay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <ikonia> toastedmilk: what is the EXACT command you are typing
[21:40] <Firefishe> Is kde 3.5.x available in the Intrepid release?
[21:40] <Papero> ikonia: fine
[21:40] <LjL> Alexplay: you don't have that line?
[21:40] <Alexplay> no, im in debian
[21:40] <quackquack> hi
[21:40] <SkittleLinux18_> that command i was looking for earlier is this: sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[21:41] <xhunter> whay this ?
[21:41] <xhunter> what *
[21:41] <xhunter> what this can do ?
[21:41] <ikonia> xhunter: what is what ?
[21:41] <juanc> sabeis sevidor español?
[21:41] <toastedmilk> ikonia, sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run
[21:41] <xhunter> sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[21:41] <ikonia> toastedmilk: do "sudo -i" then run ./ati-$blah
[21:41] <mphill> xhunter: in the context of file ? is one character * matches any number
[21:42] <lanoxx> is it recommended to install the ubuntu-desktop packages on a kubuntu install or should i rather reinstall?
[21:42] <xhunter> nop
[21:42] <lanoxx> will it lead to the same result?
[21:42] <ikonia> lanoxx: same thing
[21:42] <Firefishe> lanoxx:  all that does is give you gnome
[21:42] <Buster_Hymen> how can i get an app to autostart in xubuntu?
[21:42] <mintonr> Firefishe ok i pasted it
[21:42] <mphill> lanoxx: it will be find but you will have tons of KDE bloat
[21:42] <Firefishe> mintonr: Copy the resulting URL in the address bar, and repaste it here.
[21:42] <lanoxx> Firefishe, i once installed kde-desktop on an ubuntu 7.10 and i got a very messy kde session
[21:42] <LjL> lanoxx: it won't lead to the same result because it won't uninstall KDE
[21:43] <typeofkisses> Hi all, sorry about the flooding.  Would any of you be able to tell me why this worked in my previous ubuntu but not in 8.10?  Thanks!  http://paste.ubuntu.com/84110/
[21:43] <mintonr> http://rafb.net/p/oVHWnp56.html
[21:43] <Firefishe> lanoxx: Well, it's largely, I find, dependent upon hardware.  I used 7.10 and kde just fine for a long time.
[21:43] <ikonia> typeofkisses: why are you doing su me
[21:43] <typeofkisses> Because I want to run gnome-terminal as a user other than the desktop user
[21:43] <quackquack> i have a problem with compilation vsftpd2.0.7
[21:43] <ikonia> typeofkisses: show us the exact names your using
[21:43] <ikonia> typeofkisses: is one of them root ?
[21:44] <lanoxx> well a reinstall ok kubuntu worked, just the switch in the running ubuntu was strange, thats why im asking
[21:44] <typeofkisses> No, neither is root
[21:44] <joaopinto> typeofkisses, you should "su - me"
[21:44] <aeolien> Buster_Hymen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=745836
[21:44] <ikonia> typeofkisses: do "su - me"
[21:44] <typeofkisses> Okay I will try that, thank you
[21:44] <lanoxx> if i end up with a corrupted gnome install i would rather consider reinstalling the whole system
[21:44] <Firefishe> mintonr: Well, it seems that you'
[21:44] <Buster_Hymen> aeolien:  lol thanks... why did google not work for me? =)
[21:44] <Firefishe> mintonr: Well, it seems that you're getting an IP address.  What  happens when you try to browse to a page.
[21:44] <Cybolic> Hi all, I just upgraded ntfs-3g and now I can't write to my ntfs partitions even though they should be mounted correctly. Debug info is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/84111/ - please help. I cam usually fix my own problems but this makes no sense to me.
[21:45] <toastedmilk> ikonia, sweet, thanks
[21:45] <aeolien> Buster_Hymen: search query; xfce OR xubuntu auto start applcation
[21:45] <LjL> lanoxx, that's because kde-desktop is *not* the metapackage that Kubuntu is based on. kubuntu-desktop is. likewise, the metapackage that Ubuntu (GNOME) is based on is ubuntu-desktop.
[21:45] <mintonr> Firefishe: failed to establish a connection to the server at: ubuntu.com
[21:45] <aeolien> Cybolic: Were you able to write to your partitions prior to upgrading?
[21:45] <mintonr> Or any other site i try
[21:45] <ikonia> mintonr: can you ping your gateway
[21:45] <ultratek> i ran the sudo cmd to get kooldock now how do i access kool dock?
[21:45] <Firefishe> mintonr: Try another page.
[21:46] <Cybolic> aeolien: Yes, I was.
[21:46] <ikonia> mintonr: can you use nslookup
[21:46] <Buster_Hymen> aeolien:  i don't ahve the "autostarted applications" entry in my menu...
[21:46] <mads-> Hi. I have USB wireless network thingy. Could anyone point me towards a guide to set up a wireless access point on a ubuntu machine? Thanks
[21:46] <Firefishe> ikonia: Doh....good suggestion.
[21:46] <Cybolic> aeolien: I don't know what version I upgraded _from_ though.
[21:46] <LjL> ultratek: have you tried typing "kooldock" in a terminal or in Alt+F2?
[21:46] <z1> so I want to rsync some files from my vista box to my ubuntu box... is this going to be easy, or am I going to have to use scp
[21:46] <z1> with putty
[21:46] <mintonr> i can ping the gate way
[21:46] <typeofkisses> Now I have this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84112/
[21:46] <ikonia> mintonr: ok, so dns is probably at fault
[21:46] <\slash> how can i setup my ubuntu to listen for ssh connections ?
[21:47] <ikonia> typeofkisses: echo $DISPLAY
[21:47] <ikonia> typeofkisses: why are you doing xohost
[21:47] <\slash> i wanna connect to my ubuntu remotely
[21:47] <ikonia> typeofkisses: you shouldn't need xhost
[21:47] <lanoxx> LjL, you mean i accidentally installed kde-desktop while what i really wanted was kubuntu desktop, so now if i want gnome i should install ubuntu-desktop not gnome-desktop
[21:47] <LjL> lanoxx: correct.
[21:47] <trailbrain> Can anyone recommend an app to piece together some .mov files?
[21:47] <typeofkisses> Running other GUI programs as "me" works fine but not gnome-terminal
[21:47] <typeofkisses> echo $DISPLAY is empty
[21:47] <aeolien> Cybolic: It says on line 12 it's mounted as rw
[21:47] <Firefishe> ikonia: dns...*grumble*  Prior to installing kubuntu yesterday, I'd been having all kinds of dns lookup latency and fail-to-load issues with debian lenny 64bit.
[21:48] <LjL> typeofkisses: then there's no reason why any GUI application would work. export DISPLAY=:0
[21:48] <moDumass> grandr and lrandr only give me the options of 800x600 and 640x480 how can i add 1440x900 at 60hz
[21:48] <mintonr> Ikonia FireFishe: I gotta get going, thanks for the help. Ill check with the dns when I can and see. Maybe later it will work..... thanks again!
[21:48] <aeolien> Buster_Hymen: Hmm... Odd. I'm not actually running XFCE, so I don't think I can help you further.
[21:48] <typeofkisses> I'm using xhost because that's how I needed to do this in previous versions of ubuntu.
[21:48] <Firefishe> k mintonr...be well, glad to help.
[21:48] <mintonr> same to you
[21:48] <Cybolic> aeolien: Exactly, that's what I don't get. When I try to write to the partition (as with the touch command) it says it _isn't_ mounted rw.
[21:48] <Buster_Hymen> ok thanks anyway
[21:48] <typeofkisses> should I do that as "you" or "me"?
[21:48] <aeolien> Cybolic: how are you mounting it? In fstab?
[21:48] <ultratek> ljl: it says it is already running
[21:48] <Cybolic> aeolien: Yes.
[21:49] <lanoxx> LjL, i guess i judged wrong about ubuntu then, thanks for correcting my mistake
[21:49] <LjL> typeofkisses: why don't you just use gksudo as intended? "gksudo -u username commandname"
[21:49] <aeolien> Cybolic: could you pastebin your fstab file?
[21:49] <ultratek> ljl: how do i get the icon palette at the bottom of my desktop with kooldock
[21:49] <elgransete> hey there ppl
[21:49] <Firefishe> ikonia:  Do you know if dns latency/lookup issues have been an issue in recent *buntu/debian releases at all?
[21:49] <LjL> ultratek: i haven't the slighest idea
[21:49] <mphill> typeofkisses: xhost +
[21:49] <ikonia> Firefishe: nope
[21:49] <ultratek> =)
[21:49] <Cybolic> aeolien: I'll paste you the line: UUID=1A81229A5F8AF86E /media/storage  ntfs    defaults,umask=0002,uid=1000,gid=100 0 1
[21:49] <ultratek> anyone?
[21:49] <Firefishe> ikonia: Must be hardware or localized then.. Okay, thanks. :)
[21:50] <zod21> set nick zod21
[21:50] <typeofkisses> The way I'd done in the past, I would run a terminal as the other user because then I could click on URLs in pine, for example, and they would open as a web browser for the other user
[21:50] <aeolien> Cybolic: Do you need any special mounting options? Or are the defaults fine?
[21:50] <lanoxx> LjL, will installing ubuntu-desktop keep me the kde-stuff or will it completely change my system to ubuntu?
[21:50] <Cybolic> aeolien: I'm not sure what you mean?
[21:51] <typeofkisses> This is so I can have my personal business in a protected user account but then close those windows and offer my friends a "safe" desktop to use
[21:51] <Buster_Hymen> aolien:  sorry to bother you further, but would a startup script be able to help me in my predicament?
[21:51] <moDumass> Mornign all, can someone please help me edit my xrandr without breaking my machine, its been 2 days at ultra low res and i cant seem to change it
[21:52] <LjL> lanoxx: no, as i said, it'll keep KDE.
[21:52] <LjL> lanoxx: that's the only difference between that and a reinstall.
[21:52] <typeofkisses> xhost + gives me the same error as if I had used xhost +local:
[21:52] <aeolien> Cybolic: Alright, that answers my question anyway. Are you running Intrepid?
[21:53] <lanoxx> ok
[21:53] <typeofkisses> I'm just not sure what changed between versions
[21:53] <Cybolic> aeolien: Actually I'm running Mint, but it's based on Hardy and uses its repos.
[21:53] <typeofkisses> And why it does this specifically for gnome-terminal and not other apps
[21:53] <Cybolic> aeolien: The ntfs-3g package was also from hardy repos.
[21:54] <aeolien> Cybolic: OK, sure! Here's a graphical config program: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[21:54] <aeolien> Or use Synaptic or Add/Remove to install it
[21:54] <Cybolic> aeolien: Thanks, I'll try that :)
[21:54] <Cybolic> aeolien: And thank you for your time.
[21:55] <aeolien> Cybolic: No problem! I'm just giving back after all the help I've received here. Check out this for more: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[21:55] <aeolien> Cybolic: Launch that via gksudo ntfs-config and check the boxes :P
[21:55] <Phase> Is there a command to get the bot to tell you about a package in the ubuntu repo?
[21:56] <Cybolic> aeolien: Don't worry, I got it ;)
[21:56] <ikonia> !info dpkg
[21:56] <ikonia> Phase: like that
[21:56] <Phase> !info gambas
[21:56] <Phase> meh, k
[21:56] <Phase> ikonia, Thanks.
[21:57] <LMosze> Sound issues on my Ubuntu 8.10, I've tried to figure out the answer my my self, without any luck. My computer is a HP Pavilion Dv4 with HDA-Intel sound card
[21:57] <jfroebe> found out that running notes 7 on Linux using wine has a bug - you need to minimize the window before changing workspaces else the window will be lost
[21:58] <jasa_> Hey, anyone who could do small favor ?
[21:58] <Cybolic> aeolien: Wow, that thing rewrites the _entire_ fstab file... kind of scary, but it seems to have preserved the options of other partitions, so no worry, just a quick scare.
[21:58] <Cybolic> aeolien: It works now - thank you again.
[21:59] <aeolien> Cybolic: No problem! Actually, I should install that...
[21:59] <Firefishe> net split?:
[22:00] <aeolien> !ask > jasa_
[22:00] <j0sh-x1> Firefishe: you mean these joins and leaving?
[22:00] <aeolien> Oh, he was dropped...
[22:00] <Firefishe> j0sh-x1: yeah (g50v-x1, perchance?(
[22:00] <typeofkisses> If I use gksudo as the desktop user I need to add the program to a sudoers list somewhere
[22:01] <j0sh-x1> Firefishe: huh?
[22:01] <Xero> i'd like to try out Enlightenment as an alternative WM, but i don't know where to start. any help?
[22:01] <Firefishe> j0sh-x1: I was wondering if your nickname was an allusiong to you're owning an Asus G50V-X1 laptop?
[22:01] <typeofkisses> But if i use it as the 2nd user ("me") it gives me a stream of Gconf errors
[22:01] <Firefishe> allusion
[22:01] <Firefishe> can't spell today
[22:02] <typeofkisses> I'm doing: gksudo -u top gnome-terminal
[22:02] <agustin> guys why amarok dont take alsa for sound server
[22:02] <j0sh-x1> Firefishe: nope, but I loooove my Compaq R3000 xD
[22:02] <agustin> its take OSS
[22:02] <gnutron> typeofkisses: the 'second' user doesn't have sudo access by default.
[22:02] <Firefishe> j0sh-x1: I'll be certain to look at it.  Run linux well, does it?  My g50v is proving highly challenging.
[22:02] <ultratek> how do i install wacom tablet drivers for linux...i tried: sudo apt-get install wacom --- and got nothing
[22:03] <typeofkisses> right ...
[22:03] <rrplay> Xero: check out cafe linux OzOs
[22:03] <typeofkisses> I didn't need sudo access doing it my way before
[22:03] <typeofkisses> What changed?
[22:03] <gnutron> typeofkisses: visudo is the program the 'first' user can deploy to add users to the sudoers list.
[22:04] <J1MB0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[22:04] <aeolien> Oh, i hate borking the sudoers list
[22:04] <Xero> rrplay, thank you very much :)
[22:04] <typeofkisses> I am skeptical of changing that as well and that there must be an easier way to just get gnome-terminal running on its own
[22:04] <rrplay> Xero >>> http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,2175.0.html
[22:04] <typeofkisses> I guess I will just try and figure out the specific error it's throwing myself
[22:04] <jedi06> how do you get the version of ubuntu?
[22:04] <gnutron> typeofkisses: upon installation, the initial user is given sudo or gksudo privileges.
[22:05] <j0sh-x1> Firefishe: nothing worth looking propably, AthlonXP 3000, 512 megs of ram, nVidia GeForceGo MX420 (32megs), 60gig hdd.. and that damn Broadcom 4306 WiFi... gave me hard times till Hardy..
[22:05] <ultratek> ahh
[22:05] <majnoon> !ot
[22:05] <cppm> Don't suppose anyone else had the problem where the splashscreen (usplash and splashy) stopped working in 8.10?
[22:05] <gnutron> jedi06: type lsb_release -a  in a terminal or konsole.
[22:05] <typeofkisses> I'm not running as the administrative user on the desktop
[22:05] <Firefishe> j0sh-x1: Yeah.  I have a pcmcia linksys card with that chipset in it.  I am now *very familiar* with bcm43xx-fwcutter and b43-fwcutter. ;)
[22:06] <typeofkisses> The desktop is running as a "safe" user
[22:06] <typeofkisses> That is the reason I want to launch gnome-terminal as another user for some things
[22:06] <Xero> rrplay, that's awesome, thanks again =D
[22:06] <Dug_ur_a_MA> goin through the motions thinkin bout the ocean think my girlfriend needs an abortion
[22:07] <aeolien> jedi06: Click on System > About Ubuntu
[22:07] <rrplay> Xero runnig e17 now!! on xbuntu
[22:08] <Xero> rrplay, really? anything i should know from your experience?
[22:08] <rrplay> Xero: you might have  apt-get -f   if error
[22:08] <rrplay> Xero   may take a good 20 -30 minutes
[22:09] <gnutron> typeofkisses: try su that-user in gnome-terminal, then the password
[22:09] <Byt3s> #lamadings
[22:09] <Xero> rrplay, so if that happens i just 'let it settle', so to speak?
[22:09] <typeofkisses> that's what I did here right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/84110/
[22:09] <gnutron> typeofkisses: type 'whoami' to see if it worked.
[22:09] <julle_> anyone got experiance of installing Zimbra under ubuntu ?
[22:10] <rrplay> Xero : and check out other themes log in out a few   did it yesterday ! :)
[22:10] <Alexplay> anyone knows how to disable right mouse button click to act as left click? it's annoying when i open a menu
[22:10] <typeofkisses> whoami tells me I am the 2nd user
[22:10] <typeofkisses> but I already knew that from the prompt
[22:11] <typeofkisses> Like I said, other GUI programs will launch fine from this subterminal, just not gnome-terminal
[22:11] <typeofkisses> I can launch seamonkey and it will be using the history and preferences of the 2nd user
[22:11] <Xero> rrplay, you're a star =] installing e17 now, i'll bear that in mind! =D
[22:12] <typeofkisses> But I can't launch a true instance of gnome-terminal where clicking a URL in pine will open that 2nd instance of seamonkey on its own
[22:12] <typeofkisses> And where opening new tabs will automatically be under the 2nd user, etc.
[22:12] <Fenix|work> Anyone have any ideas why when running chroot /mnt/disk I get:  chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied  ?
[22:12] <rrplay> Xero : gotta fix my mouse to copy out this chat paste x mouse etc  but still a bit of fun
[22:12] <Fenix|work> (from the kubuntu destop install disk)
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[22:13] <gnutron> typeofkisses: you might want to login to the desktop as that user.
[22:13] <Alexplay> anyone knows how to disable right mouse button click to act as left click? it's annoying when i open a menu
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[22:13] <pflanze> Hello. Could anyone do me a favour and tell me the maintainer name/email of the gambc package? I can't seem to find out through the web and I don't have Ubuntu installed.
[22:13] <typeofkisses> That's exactly what I wanted to avoid doing.  I thought it was a simple idea since I had been doing it for over a year in previous versions of ubuntu.
[22:13] <typeofkisses> So why does the command 'gnome-terminal' fail to launch?
[22:13] <\slash> how can i securely setup ssh for remote logins?
[22:14] <Alexplay> oh ok, thanks
[22:14] <ikonia> Alexplay: you may want to look at #debian as your using debian
[22:14] <Alexplay> but it happens in both
[22:14] <ikonia> Alexplay: doesn't matter
[22:15] <ikonia> Alexplay: your using debian
[22:15] <ikonia> Alexplay: #debian is the correct support channel for you
[22:15] <Alexplay> im there too
[22:15] <gnutron> typeofkisses: my guess is your launching a program from within the same program.
[22:15] <mrglinux> I have ubunu 8.4 and bmc43XX wireless I remember this ubuntu recognize my device but now .. it cand what shall id o?
[22:15] <ikonia> Alexplay I know - so please keep debian questions to that channel
[22:15] <Alexplay> ok
[22:15] <mrglinux> bcm
[22:16] <typeofkisses> Is that what this error means? "  ** (gnome-terminal:6009): WARNING **: Owner of /tmp/orbit-you is not the current user"
[22:16] <gnutron> typeofkisses: the shell is confused, as am i.
[22:16] <typeofkisses> I'm launching a new instance of gnome-terminal, which previous versions of ubuntu were able to do just fine
[22:16] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:16] <typeofkisses> That makes 3 of us :)
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> pflanze http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/doc/gambc-doc
[22:18] <pflanze> Jack_Sparrow: so<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[22:18] <pflanze> ok, thanks.
[22:19] <pflanze> Jack_Sparrow: it seems the package is basically being taken from Debian, is it better to discuss packaging with him?
[22:19] <typeofkisses> Maybe gnome-terminal added a new "security" feature to block people from doing what I was doing but i have it fully patched in my gutsy install too
[22:19] <pflanze> with Kurt B. Kaiser
[22:19] <peter1138> since i upgraded to 8.10 my text consoles don't work, it switches to text mode and the cursor flashes but nothing else is visible
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> pflanze Since it is OT for here, try both
[22:19] <typeofkisses> Wait, in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/84110/ is 6009 a process ID?
[22:19] <pflanze> ok
[22:20] <LMosze> I'm a newbee on Linux/Ubuntu thats struggle allot with slow/choppy sound on my hda-intel soundcard. May anyone help me?
[22:20] <peter1138> i can actually type stuff, and login, but cannot see it
[22:20] <rrplay> peter1138,  try starting and stopping gdm ??
[22:20] <makito249> Hey, can anyone help me with the unix sort command?
[22:20] <gnutron> typeofkisses: probably is yes
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> LMosze Which version of ubuntu are you running
[22:20] <LMosze> 8.10
[22:21] <typeofkisses> Because the process ID of the gnome-terminal I launched from the desktop is 5844, which means the process itself launched okay but it's the new instance of gnome-terminal which failed, not the shell launching it.
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> LMosze the real thing or one of the varients
[22:21] <doug___> hey guys...is there a gui based way to do a hdd backup...
[22:21] <typeofkisses> At least that explains why other programs work
[22:21] <doug___> i have a 320gb hdd...and i want to image my current laptop hdd to the new drive
[22:21] <kansan__> how do i get java sun
[22:21] <Buster_Hymen> is there a command to run a command as a different user?  for example:  i'm logged in as A, but i want command X to be run by user B (and B is not root).
[22:21] <LMosze> the real thing i guess,
[22:21] <kansan__> how do i get java sun for version 1.5
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ dd in a term
[22:21] <ikonia> Buster_Hymen: sudo
[22:21] <keres_> is photoshop cs3 supported in wine yet?
[22:21] <doug___> what...
[22:21] <doug___> dd
[22:21] <makito249> I am trying to sort lines that all start with + or -. sort sorts by the first alphabetic letter it finds, how do I make it sort by the first character?
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > keres_
[22:21] <Buster_Hymen> ikonia:  no i don't want to run as root
[22:21] <ikonia> keres_: ask in #winehq
[22:22] <ikonia> Buster_Hymen: sudo is not just for root
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ open a terminal and type man dd
[22:22] <doug___> ok
[22:22] <keres_> thanks
[22:22] <Buster_Hymen> ikonia:  oh really?  so i can just enter the password of the respective user?
[22:22] <makito249> sudo -u <username>
[22:22] <ikonia> Buster_Hymen: no you have to set it up in the sudoers file
[22:22] <Buster_Hymen> ikonia:  where is that located?
[22:22] <peter1138> rrplay, makes no difference
[22:22] <ikonia> Buster_Hymen: you edit it with the visudo command
[22:23] <rrplay> peter1138, defaualt white text ??
[22:23] <doug___> ok so i want to do a byte by byte copy
[22:23] <doug___> from one drive to the next
[22:23] <makito249> Buster_Hymen: I believe you can run a command as another user by running 'sudo -u <username>'. Maybe ikonia can correct me if I am wrong.
[22:23] <doug___> and how long woudl that take for about 80 gb
[22:23] <moDumass> im reading the xrandr man pages but i dont understand what is going on, does anyone get xrandr?
[22:23] <ikonia> makito249: sure
[22:23] <LMosze> Jack_Sparrow: I gues it's the real thing i downloaded it from ubuntu.com for 2 days ago
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ yes, but there are manay many apps , bootable cd's etc that can handle that
[22:23] <Buster_Hymen> okay i'll try both
[22:23] <Buster_Hymen> thanks a lot guys
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> LMosze ty, it helps us to know.. here is a basic help page for sound issues..
[22:24] <rrplay> peter1138, did you apt-get upgrade from a gui ??
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[22:24] <mahfouz> why are the app icons in the panel different from the ones in the menu?
[22:24] <Lamo> is there any reason in particular why flash show grey lines while playing and locks up firefox and tops my CPU?
[22:24] <doug___> ok...well i dont mind doing it via terminal, but if there is a gui it would be easier...
[22:24] <peter1138> rrplay, i'd assume it's default white text, i've never changed it
[22:24] <typeofkisses> Ah yes the number increased to 6### when I tried it again which I didn't notice before
[22:24] <jedi06> how do you get take a screen shot?
[22:24] <doug___> also how long woudl you assume it would take to write 80gb to a new hdd
[22:24] <LMosze> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks allot!
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ running a gui on the drive you want to backup can lead to problems
[22:25] <doug___> the new hdd is fresh and just partitioned
[22:25] <peter1138> rrplay, actually stopping and starting gdm has made a change -- switching to text console now turns the monitor off
[22:25] <rrplay> peter1138,  play around abit and check it out
[22:25] <doug___> because you wnat to have it unmounted
[22:25] <drowned> hey guys I'm having a problem.  On battery my screen dims when its inactive but never comes back...does anyone else have this problem?
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ you might want to google up hirenscd..
[22:25] <Lamo> Or why we haven't received the nvidia 180 driver in an update yet?
[22:25] <gnutron> jedi06: print-screen button
[22:25] <eseven73> jedi06: you could get a nice GUI screenshot program 'sudo apt-get install ksnapshots'
[22:25] <makito249> Does anyone know how to sort a series of lines by the first character? sort will only sort by alphanumeric characters.
[22:25] <peter1138> rrplay, oh, and the upgrade was done a while ago, several reboots since then, heh
[22:25] <jedi06> I have gimp
[22:25] <rrplay> peter1138,  you may have to reconfigure your xserver
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > makito249
[22:26] <jedi06> what about just a screnshot of a window not the whole screen
[22:26] <peter1138> i'll try fiddling with rebooting
[22:26] <rrplay> peter1138,  do you have any nvidia or ati drivers loaded ??
[22:26] <gnutron> jedi06: maybe alt+print-screen
[22:26] <typeofkisses> Is there a chatroom just for questions about gnome and gnome-terminal ?
[22:26] <roosel> i just installed flash 10 and about:plugins lists shockwave flash and yet flash still doesnt work...
[22:26] <doug___> looks like everything I need thanks
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ great..
[22:26] <jedi06> got it
[22:27] <jedi06> gnutron yup that is it
[22:27] <doug___> oh i see that drive image does not have usb support
[22:27] <doug___> guess im stuck using norton ghost
[22:27] <Lamo> roosel: its because flash doesn't work for crap under linux and never has
[22:27] <gnutron> typeofkisses: i don't know, sorry. /list will list channels, very server cpu intensive
[22:27] <roosel> it worked fine on 7.1 til flash 10 =(
[22:27] <roosel> 7.10*
[22:27] <mahfouz> ok, try again, question: why are the icons in the panel different from the ones in the menu? (In gnome)
[22:27] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ google up g4l  ghost 4 linux.. they did change the name but that will get you there
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohmy > Lamo
[22:28] <fernando> hi
[22:28] <fernando> goodevening
[22:28] <moDumass> rrplay do you know how to add unrecofniser resolutions to xrandr?
[22:28] <peter1138> hmm
[22:29] <roosel> so flash 10 doesnt work on 8.04 ?
[22:29] <peter1138> indeed, booting in single user gives me a text console up until X is started :o
[22:29] <roosel> does flash 9 ?
[22:29] <j0sh-x1> roosel: works fine
[22:29] <kansan__> how do i get the latest sun java (java6 u10)?
[22:29] <Lamo> roosel: did you install flash-nonfree
[22:29] <dr_willis> roosel,  ive seen flash 10 work on 8.04 -  but havent messed with it lately
[22:29] <doug___> is that better then the cd you linked to jack
[22:29] <roosel> no i ran the .deb installed from the adobe website
[22:29] <rrplay> peter1138,  do you have any ati or nvidia ddrivers ??
[22:29] <roosel> installer*
[22:29] <peter1138> yes, nvidia
[22:30] <Guest60711> I am running  8.10 system , but when system starts options are only 8.04 ...is that normal?
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> doug___ g4l is kinda dated, not sure it will do usb...   just trying to point yoyou to a few options
[22:30] <rrplay> peter1138,  there you go got to fix that ??
[22:30] <Lamo> roosel: maybe you should use the repo one? also there are two other flash packages I had to install last night to get my desktop working
[22:30] <gnutron> kansan__: sun-java6-jre i think
[22:30] <roosel> Lamo what were the other packages
[22:30] <rrplay> peter1138,  try reinstalling those properly
[22:30] <gwennn> rose: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:30] <peter1138> properly? heh
[22:31] <j0sh-x1> roosel: enable partner repos and refresh package list. flash-plugin should be there
[22:31] <rrplay> peter1138,  you changed kernels so you may have to simply reinstall them
[22:31] <roosel> you cant apt-get flash plugin no more...
[22:31] <j0sh-x1> roosel: in synaptic of course
[22:31] <Lamo> roosel: gnash and swf mozilla not sure the exact names
[22:31] <Lamo> roosel: firefox should ask you if you want to install them
[22:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[22:32] <Jack_Sparrow> roosel It sure looks like it is in the repos
[22:32] <roosel> go ahead and try it jack
[22:32] <roosel> you get a 404
[22:32] <Guest60711> is it normal I have only 8.04 options at start when my system is updated to 8.10?
[22:32] <roosel> Gust60711 what options do you refer to ?
[22:33] <Guest60711> I am referring to start up options
[22:33] <Guest60711> systems on start up
[22:33] <j0sh-x1> roosel: adobe-flashplugin
[22:33] <Guest60711> and thx roosel for asking
[22:33] <j0sh-x1> !adobe-flashplugin
[22:34] <mcquaid> join #nvidia
[22:34] <Guest60711> I am not intelligent  as well and I am not a bot
[22:34] <roosel> Guest60711 did you upgrade the system or was it a fresh 8.10 install ?
[22:34] <Vantrax> mornin all
[22:34] <Guest60711> I did upgrade
[22:34] <j0sh-x1> roosel: found it?
[22:34] <dniel> is posible to install an ubuntu base-system?
[22:34] <dniel> like debian?
[22:35] <dr_willis> dniel,  dependiosn on what you mean. theres the ubuntu 'jeos' thats a very minimal system.
[22:35] <roosel> j0sh-x1 this is what happens if you try apt-get that Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:35] <Vantrax> yes, you can install debian
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> roosel Sure seems to be there for me..  and here too  http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/i386/flashplugin-nonfree/download
[22:35] <rrplay> peter1138,  check this out http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[22:35] <funkyHat> dniel: like the ubuntu server install?
[22:35] <Buster_Hymen> dniel:  are you talking about a cli-only system?
[22:35] <mcquaid> i've never had a problem before getting vsync to work in linux (usually as long as I disable compiz)
[22:35] <peter1138> ah, i've just removed/purged all nvidia stuff
[22:35] <mcquaid> but even with compiz disabled i can't get vsync working in opengl games
[22:35] <peter1138> and removed the x config
[22:36] <Vantrax> dniel, most linux versions now are based off redhat or debian, but there isnt really a 'base' system
[22:36] <mcquaid> i checked vsync in game, in the nvidia config and tried export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1
[22:36] <j0sh-x1> roosel: do you have partner repos enabled?
[22:36] <jedi06> how do you see how large a directory is
[22:36] <dr_willis> dniel,  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
[22:36] <mcquaid> driver version 177.80
[22:36] <rrplay> peter1138,  seee the link above
[22:36] <peter1138> just need to reconfigure X... it's set me up in a lovely 1024x768 interlaced mode
[22:36] <toptnc> hi all
[22:36] <peter1138> i will when i get to a browser
[22:36] <roosel> j0sh-x1 no i do not
[22:36] <dniel> dr_willis: yes I wanna install a base system and then I wanna install my component like kdebase and other aplications
[22:36] <toptnc> anyone knows why toshiba_acpi module has been removed from stock kernel?
[22:36] <dr_willis> dniel,  i dont see the point in doing that.. but its doable.
[22:37] <Buster_Hymen> dniel:  you can either install ubuntu-server or do a cli-only install with the ubuntu-minimal cd
[22:37] <Vantrax> dniel, you'd be better off building a distro from scratch using some of the tools
[22:37] <j0sh-x1> roosel: enable, refresh list, check
[22:37] <Guest60711> roosel: did you get my answer?
[22:37] <roosel> Guest60711 if you manually upgraded your system then you would have to manual edit your grub / boot loader
[22:37] <jedi06> How do you see the size of a directory?
[22:37] <dniel> because ubuntu come whit a lot of tools and aplications that I don't use
[22:37] <Guest60711> I get the update automatically
[22:38] <roosel> j0sh-x1 honestly im not sure how to add an alternate repo
[22:38] <dniel> and I like the fresh instalation
[22:38] <peter1138> rrplay, heh, none of that seems relevant... X itself was working perfectly with the nvidia setup...
[22:38] <onetinsoldier> hi all
[22:38] <rrplay> peter1138, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:38] <Guest60711> and it installed well it seems
[22:38] <dniel> and then with aptitude install only that I'll use
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> rrplay that does next to nothing in the new release of ub
[22:38] <Buster_Hymen> dniel:  you could also try remastering an installation cd
[22:38] <roosel> Guest60711 and you are most likely using 8.10 atm and just need to update the words in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[22:39] <dniel> Buster_Hymen: what is cli-only?
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dniel command line interface
[22:39] <rrplay> on x 8.10 xubuntu
[22:39] <mcquaid> is there a bug in 177.80 with vsync?
[22:39] <dniel> OK! but I don't need a server. I wanna a desktop OS
[22:39] <j0sh-x1> roosel: start synaptic, use settings menu, select "repositories", go to third party software tab, check the box in line with partner
[22:39] <Buster_Hymen> dniel:  cli-only is as barebone as it gets.  there's no graphical interface--only a command prompt.  You'd have to install X and GDM and Gnome and all that yourself
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal > dniel
[22:40] <Guest60711> roosel: Is there a command I can make on console and print out to let you find out more accurately?
[22:40] <Guest60711> what is the command to list the system?
[22:40] <Vantrax> dniel, the difference between server and desktop is applications and hardening
[22:40] <j0sh-x1> roosel: then close, refresh list of packages. adobe-flashplugin should be there
[22:40] <roosel> anyone know what the cl command is to list version ?
[22:40] <roosel> josh-x1 im not sure i have synaptic
[22:40] <gnutron> roosel:  lsb_release -a
[22:40] <dniel> Vantrax: and the kernel?
[22:41] <roosel> see that Guest60711 ?
[22:41] <gnutron> dniel: uname -a
[22:41] <Vantrax> dniel, kernels will be the same base across all linux, just with different extra bits to harden or limit services
[22:42] <Vantrax> Anyone know how to edit the apps menu for all users?
[22:42] <j0sh-x1> roosel: system ->settings -> synaptic package manager
[22:42] <xiamx> Is there a way to make ubuntu console fancy & colorful
[22:42] <gnutron> Vantrax: alacarte i believe
[22:42] <rrplay> peter1138,  do you have any desktop effects active ?
[22:42] <peter1138> not currently
[22:42] <Guest60711> see that?
[22:42] <rrplay> peter1138,  and still no text
[22:42] <gnutron> xiamx: edit the default profile, in the terminal menu.
[22:43] <peter1138> am installing nvidia-glx-177... will see what happens
[22:43] <dr_willis> xiamx,  if  You mean the alt-ctrl-f1 'consoles' you can enable the framebuffer and do all sorts of tweaks to it.
[22:43] <xiamx> gnutron, I'm not talking about xterm. I mean the native console
[22:43] <roosel> j0sh-x1 thx
[22:43] <gnutron> xiamx: also edit ~/.bashrc  but back it up first.
[22:43] <ompaul> Guest19019, you asked what is the command to list the system, if the command you want is uname -a great if not then your question means nothing to me and needs to be written again
[22:43] <rrplay> peter1138, sure just try ing to get it for you
[22:43] <j0sh-x1> roosel: np, glad to help
[22:44] <dniel> but... are there any minimal desktop ubuntu?
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest60711 That question was rather vague
[22:44] <xiamx> dr_willis: what should I do after enable framebuffer?
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dniel You have been told and shown repeatedly.. the link
[22:44] <Guest60711> roosel : it seems it did not update, in fact
[22:44] <frankS2> anyone know where this is? http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/679/testri5.jpg
[22:45] <dr_willis> xiamx,  thers several wiki pages on the topic. to enable it - i edit the grub menu.lst to set the proper vga=MODE     you will then be able to set different res/modes and fonts, the fbset tool can let you set other things.
[22:45] <Guest60711> it  reports 8.04 hardy
[22:45] <LjL> frankS2: just what does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[22:45] <ompaul> dniel, answer yes: location http://www.xubuntu.com
[22:45] <roosel> Guest60711 what were you using to update, typically I use a new installation when upgrading but I use several partitions which makes that more painless
[22:45] <xiamx> gnutron: what should I edit in bashrc?
[22:45] <xiamx> dr_willis: Thanks, I'm trying it out now
[22:45] <kristian1> Newbie Question : i have irssi installed. if i now type "sudo apt-get install irssi", will it then install the latest version or will nothing happen since it is already installed?
[22:45] <gnutron> xiamx: there are some lines you can un-comment to add color
[22:46] <dniel> ompaul: no. It's a ubuntu whit Xfce
[22:46] <gnutron> xiamx: also some useful aliases
[22:46] <Slart> kristian1: it will probably just report that nothing was installed
[22:46] <j0sh-x1> Guest60711: 8.04 is long time support, wont upgrade to 8.10 unless forced
[22:46] <dr_willis> xiamx,  theres a great many bash howto/guides/tips on tweaking the bashrc, or other bash customization tips. the ABS guide is worth reading.
[22:46] <Vantrax> dniel, just check out the different versions of ubuntu, im sure one or two will work. There should be a configuration with what your looking for, else build your own, there are guides online.
[22:46] <ompaul> dniel, that is the smallest official ubuntu based distro there is no gnome light version if that is your question
[22:46] <Slart> kristian1: since it's already installed.. you can run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall irssi" to make it reinstall it.. if that's what you want
[22:46] <Slart> !minimal
[22:47] <xiamx> dr_willis: gnutron:  thank you for your help
[22:47] <gnutron> xiamx: just read the file carefully, you'll see.
[22:47] <xiamx>  gnutron: I'm doing it
[22:47] <kristian1> Slart : but if i am using an older version of irssi, and atp got a newer version, will it automatically update if i type "sudo apt-get install irssi"?
[22:47] <peter1138> heh
[22:47] <dr_willis> kristian1,  it should upgrade. yes
[22:47] <peter1138> seems to work
[22:48] <rrplay> peter1138,  got text ??
[22:48] <peter1138> but "Hardware Drivers" thinks no proprietary drivers are installed... how odd
[22:48] <Slart> kristian1: I don't think so.. I think you'd have to run "apt-get upgrade" for it to upgrade .. I'm not entirely sure though
[22:48] <fernando> I am back
[22:48] <kristian1> dr_willis : ok, good! )
[22:48] <Guest82585> I was talking  with  roosel
[22:48] <kristian1> Slart : hmmm. ok. :(
[22:48] <rrplay> peter1138,  you got nvidia-settings and accel render ?? etc ??
[22:48] <gnutron> kristian1: you'll only get the version that the repositories are synced with.
[22:49] <j0sh-x1> roosel: found that plugin? I'm pretty curious :)
[22:49] <Guest82585> Guest82585 ok
[22:49] <Slart> kristian1: this is only valid if you installed the older version using apt too... apt cannot upgrade something you installed manually afaik
[22:49] <gnutron> kristian1: building newer versions can break dependancies, hence your system.
[22:49] <Slart> kristian1: but this is only a questions of semantics.. right? if you upgrade irssi by running "apt-get install irssi" or "apt-get upgrade" doesn't really matter.. the end result is the same,  or?
[22:49] <kristian1> gnutron : ok, so will i have to sync the repo myself or does it happen auto?
[22:50] <Guest82585> roosel : so it seems i am still on 8.04 and I thought  I was on  8.10  thx.... no problem with that ...
[22:50] <kristian1> Slart : ok, that should be no problem since, i used apt-get to get irssi at first.
[22:50] <gnutron> kristian1: update and upgrade will keep you in sync
[22:50] <rrplay> peter1138,  when you are good to go save that xorg.conf
[22:50] <Slart> kristian1: "sudo apt-get update" will sync your packagelists with the ones from the repos
[22:51] <Guest82585> but now when I am trying  to get updates, my application for updates locks and it is not possible to force it to shut down!
[22:51] <kristian1> gnutron & Slart : oh! i thought this was automatic! :-P
[22:51] <gnutron> kristian1: it can be, that is configurable.
[22:51] <Slart> kristian1: check in system, administration, software sources, under the "updates" page
[22:52] <gnutron> Slart: thank you.
[22:52] <kristian1> ok, so now im updated! :D
[22:52] <Guest82585> welcome back roosel
[22:52] <kristian1> well, i dont really need it to be automatic, just wondering. :)
[22:52] <kristian1> thanks! :)
[22:53] <ejer> does anyone know a way to make an encrypted file that can be decrypted without other software (except maybe a linux OS), like a self-extracting zip file?
[22:53] <gnutron> kristian1: most ppl prefer to be notified first, thats the default setting.
[22:53] <xiamx> how to calculate vga value for framebuffer? if I want 1440x900 24bit, what's the correspond vga value?
[22:54] <gnutron> ejer: gnupg is a powerful encryption program.
[22:54] <Slart> xiamx: I don't think you calculate it.. you look it up in a list.. google for "vga code" or something like that
[22:54] <dathrien> motd/
[22:54] <dniel> Vantrax: I need a distribution like debian. It ask about if you need a base system or a system with gnome
[22:54] <kristian1> gnutron : so sudo apt-get update will sync my list with repo, and sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade everything ive installed according to repo? :)
[22:54] <elvis> ola tudo bem
[22:54] <gnutron> ejer: actually, gnupg is the package name. gpg is the program.
[22:54] <xiamx> Slart: then how to get the value?
[22:54] <ejer> gnutron: yeah I have used most encryption progs, I want something someone could download on a brand new system and decrypt (maybe with no internet, ie off usb, so I can't assume they can install anything)
[22:54] <dniel> with ubuntu is it posible?
[22:54] <gnutron> kristian1: correct
[22:55] <Slart> xiamx: I don't think you calculate it.. you look it up in a list.. google for "vga code" or something like that
[22:55] <sybux> hi all
[22:55] <dniel> I need ubuntu because it have newer package
[22:55] <sybux> anyone know how to change by default the TERM variable to xterm-color in the gnome-terminal ?
[22:55] <gnutron> ejer: gpg is the linux equivalent to PGP by phil zimmerman
[22:55] <kristian1> gnutron : excellent! :) thanks for your and Slart's time. :)
[22:55] <Slart> kristian1: you're welcome
[22:55] <Guest82585> when i try  "system/administration/ updates/verify" my application for updates get in an infinite loop ... anyone knows how to solve it?
[22:55] <xiamx> Slart, ok thanks
[22:55] <octo_> what is the kernel named in ubuntu ?
[22:55] <ejer> gnutron: i know :) I use it... but it is not installed by default
[22:56] <Slart> !info linux-image
[22:56] <temppy> octo_: linux?
[22:56] <Slart> vmlinuz something? I'm not really sure what file contains the kernel..
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest82585 have you made any changes to your sources.list
[22:57] <octo_> what is linux-generic?
[22:57] <Guest82585> recently, yes ... and I want to know if there are fresh updates
[22:57] <Slart> !info linux-generic
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest82585 I would think you have something wrong in there
[22:57] <gnutron> octo_: vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic  in intrepid
[22:58] <Slart> octo_: neither of these are the actual kernel package though.. check the size.. 2kb is a bit small..
[22:58] <Guest82585> Jack_Sparrow: so doI
[22:58] <Slart> !info linux-image-2.6.27-9-generic
[22:58] <Slart> that's the one with the actual kernel, octo_
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest82585 stick it into the pastebin so someone can look it over
[22:59] <kristian1> Slart & gnutron : one more question!  I think the update-manager uses apt "behind the scenes" to do the actual work..
[23:00] <octo_> when a new kernel gets installed via update, doesnt it automatically change menu.lst to use the new kernel ?
[23:00] <Slart> kristian1: so it should be the same either way
[23:00] <Slart> octo_: afaik, yes
[23:00] <gnutron> octo_: yes it does update grub.
[23:00] <octo_> i have new than 2.6.24-19 installed but still using -19 in menu.lst
[23:00] <Guest82585> how can I make it?
[23:00] <kristian1> gnutron : ok, but it is the same thing?
[23:01] <moDumass> hey all, i can now scroll around a 1440x900 desktop on my no more than im guessing 800x600 screen
[23:01] <ejer> sybux: not sure if this does what you want, but to set env: export TERM=xterm-color
[23:01] <Slart> octo_: I think it run "sudo update-grub" which searches the /boot/ folder for kernels and adds them to the menu.lst
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > dniel
[23:01] <kristian1> Slart : ok, that is good! :)
[23:01] <moDumass> please just point me in the right direction, i cant fix this
[23:01] <octo_> ill try that and see if it works
[23:01] <gnutron> kristian1: apt-get update apt-get upgrade does the same thing, correct.
[23:01] <craigbass1976> was edgy 7.04?  Is it too late to do a feisty upgrade?  I'm trying to get a box up to at least gutsy
[23:02] <sybux> ejer: this is the good thing, but I want it to be by default
[23:02] <Slart> !upgrade | craigbass1976, see if there are any info here
[23:02] <kristian1> gnutron : ok tha's what i needed to hear! ::)
[23:02] <craigbass1976> Slart, was 7.04 edgy?
[23:02] <ejer> sybux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables (scroll down to persistent)
[23:02] <moDumass> its like, my screen system>preferences>screen res says 1440x900 50hz but im in 800x600 panning around theat desktop
[23:03] <Slart> craigbass1976: I can't really remember the names for all the releases.. sorry
[23:03] <Slart> !edgy
[23:03] <gwennn> octo it must ask you if you want to change menu.lst
[23:03] <Slart> tadaaa!
[23:03] <supernix2> You know one thing come to mind last night while I was upgrading the Vista box I own and that was there is nothing freely available that tracks and updates all programs installed on Vista like you can with Ubuntu
 If you persist, I will have to assume yuo are a troll... You have all the answers you needed
[23:03] <kristian1> Slart & gnutron : this would mean i can keep the machine fully updated from another computer via ssh. :) thanks a lot! :-D
[23:03] <sybux> ejer: thanx, I will have a look
[23:03] <octo_> ok, grub said it found <IP_ADDRESS>-generic, and said it updated menu.lst, but when I look in menu.lst, it didnt change anything ?
[23:03] <craigbass1976> Slart, nope, did a lsb_release -a and I'm in feisty.  Wonder why the upgrade borked...
[23:04] <Slart> kristian1: indeed... you can run ubuntu without using gnome/kde.. then apt-get and friends is all you've got
[23:04] <gnutron> kristian1: yes you most certainly can.
[23:04] <supernix2> Gnome is working much better for me than KDE was so far
[23:04] <moDumass> this is my xrandr output, its messed up http://pastebin.com/d17cf4675
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> craigbass1976 because feisty has reached eol
[23:04] <gwennn> octo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:05] <gnutron> kristian1: aptitude is yet another option to do the same thing as apt-get or synaptic.
[23:05] <supernix2> I kept having issues about KDE becoming non responsive after going into sleep mode
[23:05] <onetinsoldier> octo_: you didn't have the file open already before you ran update-grub did you?
[23:05] <gwennn> octo run as root
[23:05] <craigbass1976> Jack_Sparrow, right, just got sources.list updated so I can grab stuff
[23:06] <wsgordon_> this version of xchat sucks i cant see the on the server.
[23:07] <Noxz> I have a bad vfat on a second harddrive after accidently filling up the space...what took should I apt-get ?
[23:07] <kristian1> gnutron : will have a look at that. :)
[23:07] <Noxz> to try to fix
[23:08] <kristian1> !aptitude
[23:08] <supernix2> j
[23:08] <PeskyJ> is it possible to transfer running X applications to a different logged in user? like xchat for example, if I need to log in as a different user but keep it open, without having to switch users all the time to get back to this window?
[23:09] <danielbw> I have the latest catalyst drivers, 8.12 installed on a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10 for amd64.  I bought two ATI FireGL V3600's so I can stretch one big desktop across four monitors.  I am only able to setup two big desktops: one per gpu, but with two screens each.  There is no way to join all four screens to one big desktop.  How can I set it up so that i can have one big desktop across all four monitors without enabing xinerama?
[23:09] <Slart> is aptitude really a front end to apt? I'm starting to wonder sometimes.. since I've heard people claim they work differently and not everything installed using aptitude can be uninstalled using apt..
[23:09] <LjL> Slart: the latter part is nonsense, but aptitude is indeed a bit "sui generis"
[23:09] <Slart> PeskyJ: I don't think there's an easy way.. I tried doing some time ago but all I found was half-finished apps and drivers..
[23:09] <gnutron> Slart: they all use /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:09] <kristian1> Slart : dunno! anyways i think ill just stick with apt-get for the time being! :) it's official so.
[23:10] <five_> where can i get syntax help with aircrack
[23:10] <LjL> Slart: it's got its own logic for handling unused dependencies (it was the first APT interface to have any, before "autoremove" was implemented in Ubuntu's apt-get)
[23:10] <gnutron> Slart: i think anyway, pretty sure.
[23:10] <PeskyJ> Slart: I figured out how to run xchat as my user when logged in as someone else, using xhost, just thought it'd be nice if I could transfer it around too
[23:11] <Slart> thank you all..  and thanks Ljl.. my latin vocabulary is a little bit bigger now =)
[23:11] <LjL> five_: have you tried « man <programname> » and « programname --help » ?
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> five_ not here.. perhaps networking or some other
[23:11] <CyberGabber> PeskyJ: I'm not sure,<but i believe Package 'screen' will do ( detach /atach screens ) on terminals
[23:11] <dahump> lart
[23:11] <five_> thnx i will gtg real quick my son just woke
[23:11] <dahump> arr
[23:11] <Slart> PeskyJ: mm.. it would be nice.. let me know if you find a solution
[23:11] <dahump> art
[23:11] <dahump> yo yo yo checkit
[23:11] <FloodBot2> dahump: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <kristian1> Slart & gnutron : this is the last question from me now! i promise! ;-D once ive done sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, i wont have to restart my machine, right? it will upgrade and everything will run fine? hopefully.
[23:12] <PeskyJ> CyberGabber: I use screen on my server machine... I thought it was just a command line thingy.. you mean you can transfer X-apps with it too?
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> apt an aptitudes daddy is dselect
[23:12] <Slart> kristian1: you'll have to reboot if you've upgraded your kernel.. but otherwise you should be fine
[23:13] <Slart> kristian1: note.. it won't force you to reboot.. but you won't be running the new kernel until you do
[23:13] <kristian1> Slart : what if i am running irssi and then i upgrade irssi, will there be no problem?
[23:13] <kristian1> Slart : ok, thats good. :)
[23:13] <CyberGabber> PeskyJ: I'm sorry, only tested it once with terminals.
[23:13] <mcquaid> is there a list or something to see typical outputs of sensors (from lm-sensors) for various processors?
[23:13] <Slart> kristian1: I'm not really sure about that one..
[23:14] <Slart> kristian1: my personal guess is that you'll keep running the older one until you restart it
[23:14] <kristian1> Slart : alright no problem. i got a lot of help so thanks.
[23:14] <PeskyJ> kristian1: it should be ok, but you will have to restart to run th enew version fo rmost apps.. some apps might have a soft-reboot where they save-state, restart, and reload state
[23:14] <octo_> is the program adepto in the repos, or is that something e-fence adds to their Helix ubuntu version ?
[23:14] <drowned> how come it takes so long for bugs to get processed?  Isn't there a whole team of people working to triage them more quickly?
[23:15] <Rew> I am sharing files on a vista computer that I can access from other computers(xp and vista) but unable to access with ubunutu, I can see the computer with the files on it but the shared folders are not there.  Any suggestions or ideas?
[23:15] <Slart> octo_: I've never heard of it.. what is it?
[23:15] <kristian1> PeskyJ : ok, as long as nothing stops running, all is good.
[23:15] <gnutron> drowned: they work for free, takes time.
[23:15] <DigitalFiz> drowned, im sure there is but as its open source im pretty sure they have regular jobs too
[23:15] <Slart> drowned: since you're here you're a part of that team.. =) I don't think they have people sitting around waiting for bugs
[23:16] <PeskyJ> kristian1: if you use 'screen' and you update it, you'd better restart it asap as I think it does some stuff dynamically and gets a bit confused if you leave it running
[23:16] <mcquaid> does anyone have sensors installed and own core duo 2?
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > Rew
[23:16] <onetinsoldier> drowned: because linux and distros are not big corporations. and even big corporations have limited resources. in linux most things are worked on for free, part-time or what have you. something to think about
[23:16] <Rew> Jack_Sparrow I have samba installed
[23:17] <kristian1> PeskyJ : yeah, im using screen. thanks for the heads up. :) whenever i update i guess ill just shut down everything for a small period of time, and let it update and reboot if kernal update. :-D
[23:17] <shake-it> Can i upgrade Ubuntu 8.04 to Ubuntu 8.10 using the normal CD i.e not the alternate CD????
[23:18] <derklempner> Speaking of shared Windows folders, is it common to see file copy errors from a shared NTFS network drive when copying files to my EXT3 partitions?
[23:18] <PeskyJ> kristian1: it's a bit annoying for screen as you kinda want to leave all the stuff you have in there running, but yeah, that's recommended
[23:18] <craigbass1976> Jack_Sparrow, error during update  a problem occurred during update... blahblah some sort of network problem...  Any idea?  I'm trying to go from feisty to gutsy
[23:18] <kitche> LjL: thanks wish freenode would ban mibbit
[23:19] <Captcha> Ola
[23:19] <badawi> what's CTCP Version?
[23:19] <LjL> kitche: no reason, it's not an anonymous proxy.
[23:19] <kristian1> PeskyJ : true, but ill live atm. only thing im running in screen after detach is irssi, so not a big deal. :-D
[23:19] <LjL> badawi: a message to request the version string of your IRC client
[23:19] <onetinsoldier> badawi: it's to see what version of IRC client someone is using
[23:19] <Thehelpfulone> LjL: why od you moded +b users?
[23:19] <Thehelpfulone> mode +e *
[23:20] <LjL> Thehelpfulone: ask in #ubuntu-ops if you want to know, it's not really ontopic here
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> craigbass1976 it probably cant find fiesty to get you started..  since it is eol
[23:20] <un_dave> how can do a simple read/write speed test on a mounted hard drive, without damaging any data?
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> badawi: what kind and what version... if you CTCP version me it should show xchat
[23:20] <rrplay> un_dave,  see man hdparm
[23:20] <craigbass1976> Jack_Sparrow, balls...  have to reinstall?  I just did this the other day, did the repos dry up in a week?
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !feisty
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> craigbass1976 not too much over a week
[23:21] <derklempner> !samba > derklempner
[23:21] <craigbass1976> Jack_Sparrow, really though, I did a fresh feisty install (it was the disc I had handy, and I needed old FF and Tbird to import into) then did the upgrades.  Last week
[23:22] <un_dave> rrplay: i was reading about hdparm. but i'm not sure if i can use it without it writing over my data
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> craigbass1976 there are the old repos.. but I dont see how you did regular updates when the eol has passed
[23:23] <craigbass1976> Jack_Sparrow, I didn't install anything extra except vim and thunderbird
[23:23] <craigbass1976> Jack_Sparrow, waited until I wa sat hardy to install whtat the person would need
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[23:24] <rrplay> un_dave, you will not overwrite anything just read the basics
[23:24] <Scunizi> how do I list the dns domain name in terminal?
[23:24] <gnutron> Scunizi: whois domain.tld
[23:24] <un_dave> rrplay: ok. so it looks like i just use the -t command. will it work on raid devices?
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> un_dave That sounds like a recipe for disaster
[23:26] <gnutron> Scunizi: whois, dig, host, nslookup all good tools.
[23:26] <un_dave> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, that's what i thought :S
[23:26] <Scunizi> gnutron: that might work in the irc client.. however I'm looking for the reference for my machine.. maybe nslookup?
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> un_dave a true hardware raid, not the onboard imitation one, would have no problems.. but the other.. scarry
[23:27] <gnutron> Scunizi: those aren't irc commands.
[23:27] <derklempner> How can I browse to a shared network drive through the command prompt?
[23:27] <pietro> ciao
[23:27] <roosel_> how come 8.04 has 2 different kernel boot options ?
[23:27] <gnutron> Scunizi: well, whois is.
[23:27] <pietro> !list
[23:27] <Scunizi> gnutron: :).. k.. thanks.
[23:28] <un_dave> Jack_Sparrow: it's software raid, using mdadm.
[23:28] <gnutron> Scunizi: welcome of course.
[23:28] <mon^rch> !samba
[23:29] <rrplay> un_dave, just gogle hdparm raid1 on debian sounds abit scary  http://www.epimetrics.com/topics/one-page?page_id=421&topic=Bit-head%20Stuff&page_topic_id=120
[23:29] <gnutron> hdparm can be very dangerous
[23:29] <Scunizi> gnutron: I'm actually looking for a way to list the dns names that my machine uses..  can you give me an example of how to use one of those tools to do that?
[23:30] <five_> how do i find what driver is installed for my wifi card?
[23:30] <gnutron> Scunizi: whois your own domain
[23:30] <kristian1> is sudo only for ubuntu/debian?
[23:30] <LoveGuru> !WAMP
[23:30] <kristian1> !sudo
[23:30] <badawi> kristian1: no
[23:31] <kristian1> badawi : well, is it for all linux distros?
[23:31] <derklempner> How can I browse to a shared network drive through the command prompt?
[23:31] <Scunizi> gnutron: got it.. ok.. thanks. actually did it in xchat using /exec <bla bla>..
[23:32] <gnutron> Scunizi: whois cox.net or nslookup your numeric ip
[23:32] <droopsta915> how can I make an mp3 disk using brasero or kb3?
[23:32] <tyoc> Hi there people, you know an app for automatize other applications?
[23:32] <russK> anyone know how make installer put grub onto raid1 partition?
[23:32] <badawi> kristian1: yes all distros have it, it's only ubuntu that encourages it
[23:33] <droopsta915> oops, running late!! be back later
[23:33] <mib_ohte9c> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[23:33] <kristian1> badawi : ok, thanks for your time! :)
[23:33] <russK> i want /boot partition on raid1
[23:33] <un_dave> well, how about i use bonnie++ to test the drive speed? It has a parameter 'directory' which would lead me to beleieve it should just operate within a defined directory, and be pretty safe.
[23:33] <Scunizi> gnutron: can changing dns references in my setup speed access to the net.  That is can/might/maybe speed access.
[23:33] <jin> hi, I am trying to run Songbird but got this error. http://pastebin.com/m16b7d458  can any one help me?
[23:33] <InfamousBytes> Can anyone help me with my GRUB problems?
[23:33] <gnutron> Scunizi: yes it can
[23:34] <chilli0> ello all
[23:34] <Jabone_> InfamousBytes: If I can be of assistance
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> howdy chilli0
[23:34] <chilli0> netsplit?
[23:34] <Scunizi> gnutron: is there a way to determine what might be more beneficial than what I currently use? a tool or reference?
[23:34] <InfamousBytes> Thanks Jabone_
[23:34] <InfamousBytes> PM?
[23:34] <Jabone_> InfamousBytes: whats your problem?
[23:34] <chilli0> ive asked this allready but meh
[23:35] <gnutron> Scunizi: you need to talk to a networking specialist for that.
[23:35] <chilli0> is there any good tecno music making softwear for linux?
[23:35] <chilli0> native
[23:35] <gbear14275> anyone know of any equalizer packages?
[23:35] <russK> can /boot partition be on RAID1 device?
[23:35] <keres_> if you sudo mv will it merge or delete/replace a folder?
[23:36] <un_dave> russK: is raid1 mirror or stripe? i forget
[23:36] <gnutron> keres_: mv will move anything anywhere if its allowed.
[23:36] <russK> raid1 is mirror (i believe - that's my intent)
[23:36] <chilli0> is there a net split going on?
[23:36] <gbear14275> I am really surprised there are not any linux equalizer pacakges or controls :-/
[23:36] <un_dave> russK: in theory, you can boot off mirror, because it just sees one instance of the drive, and uses that.
[23:36] <gnutron> keres_: avoid mv to different filesystems
[23:37] <n8tuser2> gbear14275-> what does that do?
[23:37] <jsjones96> j/ #mutt
[23:37] <un_dave> russK: i attempted to setup that with my current system. 100mb partitions on each drive, mirrored, and then the remaining in a raid5 array.
[23:37] <russK> un_dave: thanks, i think it's possible but i don't see how to convince installer to see the device
[23:37] <badawi> how do i change the mac address of a virtual interface?
[23:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> my cpu is using 100% while I watch avi files with totem..... with past versions it never was that high any idea why anyone?
[23:38] <itrebal> using kboincspy, how do I get a Client State File for an external server?
[23:38] <Artanis00> I need to move a copy of /home into the parent directory (I copied the old /home to a partition in preparation to move /home off of the root partition (user error upon install)) but ended up with an extraneous home folder in the tree (eg: /media/newhome/home) so when I try to mount the partition as /home it looks like /home/home. I know I need to grab all the hidden files and links so what command can I use to do that?
[23:38] <gbear14275> n8tuser2: basically an equalizer adjusts the sound output of certain frequincies... the treble/bass controls on your radio is in effect a 2 band equalizer
[23:38] <un_dave> russK: i think i managed to get it to boot from the mirror, but never managed to get it to mount the rest of the raid 5, to start the rest of the system.
[23:38] <russK> un_dave:  also, grub docs don't say much about it
[23:38] <gnutron> U-b-u-n-t-u: that usually indicates a memory leak or other problem.
[23:39] <U-b-u-n-t-u> gnutron memory leak?