[12:13] <jiltdil> at top fuser look pinky cal bc mc beep ... say nice size curves ass...cut phone..... see view find open ziploak and start finger touch suck dig chvt last fsck ........... :P :P :P :P :P
[12:13] <yzhd> anyone ?
[12:14] <Psytonic> openjdk-6-jre
[12:14] <jiltdil> read it like setntance to feel
[12:14] <bobweaver> Psytonic,  have you tried to install via dpkg ?   http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/tzdata/download
[12:16] <bobweaver> Psytonic, also when was the last time you upgraded software ?
[12:16] <Psytonic> bobweaver: nope and...like never
[12:16] <Psytonic> lol
[12:16] <Psytonic> its a newish VM intsall
[12:16] <Psytonic> install even
[12:17] <Psytonic> mind you...apparently theres nothing to upgrade - apt-get upgrade installed nothing
[12:18] <bobweaver> Psytonic,  upadate and upgrade see if you get same eror    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --yes upgrade
[12:19] <Psytonic> yeah, no change - qq
[12:19] <bobweaver> arghh
[12:19] <Psytonic> ikr
[12:19] <bobweaver> Psytonic,  what version of ubuntu is this ?
[12:19] <Psytonic> 10. whatever
[12:19] <Psytonic> 2 ticks
[12:19] <bobweaver> ok
[12:20] <bobweaver> install with dpkg
[12:20] <yzhd> My issue is : something happened to my .. what is it called? the thing on the left of the screen. Task thing, launcher... I have 6 apps in "keep in launcher", but I have to scroll all the way down to find trash and workspace switcher. I can't move them up. + when I open dropbox, or other programs, the icon won't appear in the "launcher".
[12:20] <Psytonic> http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2012b-1_all.deb
[12:20] <Psytonic> yup, doing that now
[12:20] <Psytonic> sdfkjbsdf
[12:20] <Psytonic> 10.0.4
[12:21] <bobweaver> Psytonic,  cool let us know how it goes
[12:24] <Psytonic> bobweaver: same problem - looks like it needs an older version, is that right? >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/939537/
[12:25] <elspuddy> is there a way of searching for a program to install useing apt-get ?
[12:27] <theadmin> elspuddy: Yes, apt-cache search KEYWORD
[12:28] <theadmin> elspuddy: Well, you can't search using apt-get directly, though, but that's the way it's done.
[12:28] <SeedGame> How can i do disk quota in ubuntu?
[12:29] <sambagirl> is there any solution for a 2.5.1 codec incompatability?
[12:29] <SeedGame> Woho sambagirl
[12:30] <elspuddy> thanks theadmin :
[12:31] <theadmin> !pm | abhisinghal
[12:31] <Psytonic> bobweaver: looks like it <might> be working now
[12:31] <Psytonic> bobweaver: thanks :D
[12:32] <abhisinghal> http://pastebin.com/TtBtPfFC
[12:32] <abhisinghal> help me please
[12:32] <abhisinghal> theadmin
[12:32] <Psytonic> pretty sure I already replied to that
[12:33] <Psytonic> /usr/bin/update-monodoc: line 3: [: argument expected <<< have you looked in that file
[12:33] <Psytonic> and /usr/bin/update-monodoc: line 9: monodoc: command not found <<< is monodoc in your path?
[12:34] <Jaco> Hi all.
[12:34] <somersb3> Hello. My CPU is loaded on a scrolling in XFCE4-terminal ! Fresh install. 11.10. what is the problem ?
[12:34] <Jaco> I install 12.04 beta 2 today,but it's running slowly.
[12:34] <monohedron> abhisinghal, did you try "apt-get -f install"
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> Jaco  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <Psytonic> Jaco: read the topic
[12:35] <Jaco> ah,sry/
[12:35] <abhisinghal> monohedron nopes
[12:36] <monohedron> just try and then run the install again
[12:36] <abhisinghal> psytonic
[12:36] <theadmin> somersb3: Have you tried other terminals? (sakura is the one I use, really lightweight). Might be a bug in vte2 or xfce4-terminal itself for all I can guess.
[12:36] <abhisinghal> i have uninstalled monodoc-base
[12:37] <somersb3> theadmin, I have tried lxterminal also. the symptoms are the same
[12:37] <elspuddy> why do i get permission denied when i run the command sudo apt-cache search rar | ~/output.txt ?
[12:37] <Psytonic> elspuddy: you probably dont have permission :D
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> elspuddy  no sudo needed for apt-cache
[12:38] <somersb3> theadmin, the process that gets 90% CPU is Xorg
[12:38] <Zoffix> elspuddy, shouldn't that be "> outout" and not the "| output" ? You're trying to execute ~/output.txt
[12:38] <elspuddy> MonkeyDust, same error with out sudo
[12:38] <elspuddy> Psytonic, XD
[12:38] <Zoffix> s/outout/output/; // need coffee!
[12:39] <elspuddy> thanks Zoffix
[12:39] <theadmin> elspuddy: You need either > output.txt (or >! output.txt if you're using zsh), or | tee output.txt
[12:39] <abhisinghal> monohederon ssame error again
[12:39] <elspuddy> thanks theadmin  :
[12:40] <theadmin> (well, if you're using zsh and have noclobber set, that is)
[12:42] <theadmin> somersb3: Both lxterminal and xfce4-terminal are based on the same library, vte2. Now, sakura is based on vte3 so it might have the bug resolved. roxterm is also worth a shot.
[12:42] <theadmin> ...Though, roxterm is vte2 as well
[12:45] <somersb3> theadmin, tried sakura - no luck. same defect
[12:45] <theadmin> somersb3: Really weird. Does every X app cause this effect, or just terminals?
[12:47] <shredding> Hey guys.
[12:47]  * Zoffix waves
[12:47] <shredding> I'm trying to get used to vim and am trying to connect to ftp.
[12:47] <shredding> This is the error i got:
[12:47] <shredding> (netrw) cannot determine method (format: protocol://[user@]hostname[:port]/[path])
[12:47] <Trieste> does anybody know what kernel version does 11.04 have?
[12:48] <mkultra_> im pretty sure that 11.04 is 3 series of kernels
[12:48] <shredding> I'm really new to ubuntu/linux/vim so: Am I doing something wrong or have i to install something?
[12:48] <mkultra_> it might be a 2.6, 10.10 is 2.6
[12:48] <Trieste> mkultra_: how come?
[12:48] <Zoffix> shredding, you might have better luck in #vim
[12:48] <mkultra_> they switched kernels
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> Trieste  type uname -a to find out
[12:48] <somersb3> theadmin, well, scrolling  in   a terminal takes more CPU than moving  windows of xchat over the screen very quickly
[12:49]  * Zoffix wonders why vim people come in here...
[12:49] <shredding> Thx, Zoffix
[12:49] <somersb3> theadmin, i did not notice any latency with other applications. only terminal. got damn it
[12:49] <sambagirl> what are vim people zoffix?
[12:49] <rabbi1> my rhythmbox icon missing from "notification area" how to add back ?
[12:49] <Zoffix> sambagirl, people who ask vim questions I mean.
[12:49] <oCean> Zoffix, no need for the /me messages here, thanks
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Zoffix  what's wrong with vim?
[12:50] <sambagirl> what is vim though zoffix?
[12:50] <Zoffix> MonkeyDust, I used it maybe twice. Don't really know what's wrong with it...TBH
[12:50] <Zoffix> sambagirl, an editor
[12:50] <mkultra_> its a command line text editor
[12:51] <mkultra_> like pico / nano
[12:51] <sambagirl> nevermind it's a text editor
[12:51] <sambagirl> like vi i suppose
[12:51] <sambagirl> looked at wiki
[12:51] <abhisinghal> what does mandb do??
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> abhisinghal  manual database, maybe
[12:52] <sambagirl> run it and see
[12:52] <abhisinghal> it has removed old database entries sambagirl
[12:53] <sambagirl> vim looks a lot like vi except it has colors
[12:53] <bekks> vi can have colors too, iirc.
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  vim = vi improved
[12:53] <abhisinghal> sambagirl i have some kind of dependencies problems with monodoc-base
[12:53] <rabbi1> my rhythmbox icon missing from "notification area" how to add back ?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> rabbi1  you can't, i tried it too
[12:55] <rabbi1> MonkeyDust: reinstalling rhythmbox will do ?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> rabbi1  no, tried that too
[12:56] <Zoffix> So, I'll reask my last night's question: during installation, being bored, I clicked "High contrast" (on the icon, top right). After that it apparently crashed and I sat through the rest of my install with giant fonts and icons. Now, I am on the installed system, but Ubuntu decided to try to be smart and enabled "high contrast" theme by default it seems. After playing with settings I got my fonts normal, but my cursors are still giant. I can't f
[12:56] <Zoffix> ind where to change the cursors. Any help?
[12:56] <somersb3> theadmin, it is OK with xterm  :)
[12:56] <theadmin> somersb3: Hm, so it IS a vte bug, but in both versions... Well, I suggest you try something like, uh, rxvt then
[12:58] <rabbi1> MonkeyDust: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=227261 check the reply from leadgolem\
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> rabbi1  that's fedora
[13:00] <rabbi1> MonkeyDust: yeah, but i was able to get the icon, but not staying at the place, its much to do with rhythmbox i guess
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> rabbi1  maybe it's solved in 12.04
[13:01] <somersb3> theadmin, is there any way to find all terminal packages in  xbuntu that do not depend on vte ?
[13:02] <rabbi1> MonkeyDust: again, its with Fedora also, so not much to do with OS. I had no problem before, but i started my system after a long time. caught up with this
[13:02] <theadmin> somersb3: I don't think there is a sane way to do so, sorry
[13:03] <rabbi1> MonkeyDust: that solution in the post is working
[13:04] <rabbi1> MonkeyDust: after some regular updates, something is screwing the status plugin of rhythmbox, just got to reset it ,.....
[13:05] <kwtm> If I have a package such as abcde, how can I see whether there are source files for that package?  something like  "apt-cache policy-source abcde" or something?
[13:05] <kwtm> I want to see if 7zip is an open source package, or just a zero-cost one.
[13:06] <slikts_> oh my godddd, it's so hard to resize windows now, the grippy area is just 1px wide!
[13:06] <slikts_> what are they thinking
[13:06] <Zoffix> They aren't
[13:06] <slikts_> I use unity 2d and 11.10, and they ARE
[13:06] <Zoffix> I'm installing a box for my dad, and have to switch to KDE probably... There's no way a Windows n00b can't get around Unity.
[13:06] <slikts_> what's the point of telling me something that I see
[13:07] <theadmin> kwtm: 7zip is opensource: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sevenzip/7z920.tar.bz2
[13:07] <kwtm> theadmin: Thanks!  In general, though, how do I find the source?
[13:07] <Zoffix> slikts_, I meant they aren't thinkin' haha
[13:07] <theadmin> kwtm: Well, "apt-get source PACKAGE" downloads the source-code for PACKAGE into the current directory, if available.
[13:08] <theadmin> kwtm: (given you have the deb-src repos enabled)
[13:08] <kwtm> theadmin: Ah, I see.  Thx.  I wonder if there is a "don't really do it --I just want to check if it would work" flag?
[13:08] <slikts_> simpy W T F canonical, the window resizing been grating my gears for a few days now
[13:08] <slikts_> is it a canonical or a gnome screwup?
[13:08] <theadmin> kwtm: --dry-run
[13:08] <oCean> slikts_: control your language here, please
[13:08] <kwtm> theadmin: Thanks!
[13:09] <n3ur0tix> easy now... I just downloaded the anarchism package from the repos, but have no idea how to actually use it, it looks like theres a load of stuff in the docs folders, but how do I browse this resource?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> rabbi1  don't have the status plugin
[13:09] <somersb3> theadmin. thank you anyway, boss
[13:09] <GhostWolf> ubuntu12.04LTS is coming!
[13:09] <kwtm> slikts_: I'm sure "W T F" stands for "Why That's Fantastic!" :)   Yeah, I agree, Canonical has been going downhill.  They think they're the most popular Linux distro now so they get to tell users what they want.  Fail!  Canonical != Microsoft
[13:09] <rabbi1> MonkeyDust: that can't be, may be its lost, get that plugin
[13:09] <oCean> GhostWolf: yes, discussion for that in #ubuntu+1, not here
[13:10] <mkultra_> n3ur0tix, id look for the bin file
[13:10] <mkultra_> then copy and paste the path into a terminal
[13:10] <kwtm> I'm still using Kubuntu 10.04.  I might upgrade to the next LTS but that won't be till about 4 months after release, to get the bugs ironed out.
[13:10] <Zoffix> kwtm, don't :D
[13:10] <rabbi1> just wondering what 12.04 has to offer, anyway thinking of Fedora shortly ....
[13:10] <mkultra_> like /usr/bin/anarchism straight into a terminal
[13:10] <saulotoledo> simple question: how can I have dia diagram editor in one window at Ubuntu? oO'
[13:10] <n3ur0tix> mkultra_, yeah, nothing :/
[13:10] <Zoffix> kwtm, I've made a mistake of upgrading my work box 10.04... long story short, I'm using Bodhi linux on it now :)
[13:11] <oCean> rabbi1: it is offtopic for this channel, /join #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[13:11] <m1_au> hi
[13:11] <kwtm> Zoffix: :(  Are you on KDE?  I'm thinking of Mint.
[13:11] <slikts_> kwtm: it was really bad when 11.04 came out, what with severe, sever bugs in the most basic functionality like window switching, but I thought  they had learned and that it had gotten better... BUT NOW THEY BREAK BASIC WINDOW RESIZING muhaha
[13:11] <mkultra_> lol
[13:11] <oCean> slikts_: do you have an actual support question, or did you just came to rant?
[13:11] <mkultra_> its way broken for me
[13:12] <kwtm> slikts_: I'm hoping that they'll be a bit more conservative with LTS additions, but you probably know that they're not treating KDE people nicely.  But, hey, they're not biased, now they're giving the same crummy treatment to GNOME users!  ha ha ha
[13:12] <mkultra_> i have mint xfce debian edition on a flash key if it gets worse
[13:12] <slikts_> oCean: stuff it wannabe irc cop, it's a support issue that I can't resize the windows
[13:12] <auronandace> !attitude | slikts
[13:12] <mkultra_> LOL kwtm
[13:12] <oCean> slikts_: then ask a actual question. Continue the rants and you'll find yourself outside the channel
[13:12] <Zoffix> kwtm, I was on Gnome in 10.04, but they did all the stupid changes, like moving the back/forward buttons in nautilus to the RIGHT and removing the "Up" button altogether. Why make such change? I have no idea.
[13:13] <slikts_> oCean: *an actual
[13:13] <AngrySpam> Ok so i need hellp watching youtube lol.
[13:13] <Zoffix> kwtm, and with KDE I was unable to use dual monitor setup, it doesn't seem to be able to handle that.
[13:13] <deb0> I can't resize the windows at all anymore in beta. Only the title area works for that.
[13:13] <oCean> deb0: beta is offtopic anyway for this channel
[13:13] <mkultra_> my glx gears speed is 6 fps, but i can watch youtube fine
[13:13] <kwtm> Zoffix: KDE can do dual, but it takes a lot of fiddling around, and I agree, not worthwhile.  How's Bodhi?  Debian based or something else?
[13:13] <AngrySpam> It(the computer) says i have that adobe flash thing, and i have gnash swf player installed(so it says) but i cant watch any videos
[13:13] <slikts_> deb0: I tried beta, saw the resizing problems and went with "stable"… only to find the same issue
[13:14] <n3ur0tix> mkultra_, looks like I have to navigate the docs folder and open the index.html file... sucks that this is not packaged up as an app
[13:14] <ken_os> hello anyone willing to explain winetricks here? :)
[13:14] <slikts_> ken_os: it's too tricky
[13:14] <mkultra_> just install it and run it
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| ken_os
[13:14] <mkultra_> wine tricks is an easy way to install wine fonts and run msi files in wine
[13:14] <oCean> ken_os: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[13:15] <ken_os> tnx for the info but i am doing it
[13:15] <oCean> ken_os: /join #winehq for support with using wine
[13:15] <ken_os> i just need this sh winetricks corefonts gdiplus msls31 msxml3 riched20 riched32 tahoma
[13:15] <n3ur0tix> mkultra_, 6fps? ouch
[13:15] <ken_os> and i get unknow arg riched32 :)
[13:15] <Zoffix> kwtm, Bodhi's based on Ubuntu 10.04, with Bodhi 2.0 coming out shortly after Ubuntu's 12.04 (and will be based on 12.04). It's basically your regular Ubuntu with most packages not installed by default, and with Enlightenment window manager. Enlightenment is still pre-release though, so it might not be as stable; but I haven't had any major issues with it though. Anyway, I'm sure oCean will yell at me now, so just join #bodhilinux if you want to
[13:15] <Zoffix> know more :)
[13:15] <n3ur0tix> 2629.710 FPS
[13:15] <mkultra_> yeah 6 fps
[13:16] <mkultra_> what was that about?
[13:16] <livtyler> ot
[13:23] <ken_os> oCean: I did join there . No help there man
[13:29] <yooozy> guys is it safe to upgrade kernel to 3.3 for precise?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> yooozy  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:30] <yooozy> MonkeyDust, ok thanks
[13:34] <optikx> frootloop
[13:35] <alex99> ciao
[13:38] <urbann> hi all, I tried to boot ubuntu from a usb stick from my MacBook
[13:38] <urbann> downloaded the 34bit ubuntu version but didn't get it to run
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> !mac| urbann
[13:38] <theadmin> ...34-bit?
[13:39] <theadmin> That's something new.
[13:39] <urbann> sorry 32BIts
[13:39] <urbann> do I need to use the 64 Bits version instead?
[13:40] <theadmin> urbann: Look at the link MonkeyDust gave
[13:40] <KevQuirk> Quiet in here considering there are so many people around!
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  2^5 + 1^2 = 34 - makes sense ;-)
[13:46] <dN0t> We got a date for 12.04?
[13:46] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that dN0t
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> dN0t  next week
[13:51] <bouma> can someone help me with a misalignment issue
[13:51] <bouma> ive used ubunbu 10.04, fdisk followed by mkfs to create a partition
[13:52] <bouma> when i look at it in 'disk utility' it warns that the alignment is off by 512 bytes re performance
[13:54] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[13:55] <cristiprg> hi
[13:55] <pr0ph3t> how can I remotely control my dad's ubuntu machine, considering he doesn't know much about computers? What's the easiest way? We are both behind routers and he wouldn't know how to forward a port
[13:55] <pr0ph3t>  obviously I can try and explain to him step by step what to do
[13:55] <NSP> hi
[13:55] <Gnea> !kernel
[13:56] <covi> Hi all. I have a simple script, say called s.sh, which contains several echo statements. If I directly type into my gnome-terminal "s.sh", the script will be executed and after all content is outputed, I am free to type some new commands in that same gnome-terminal window. However, if I run 'gnome-terminal -x s.sh', after the content is outputed the gnome terminal window is not "freed", and I can't input any new commands. Any getaround?
[13:58] <pete34> hi, i'm trying to mount external space with davfs with sudo mount -t davfs https://webdav.mediencenter.t-online.de /media/cloud. there is no error when I mount but when i try to copy with sudo cp i get "Cannot create regular file '..': Invalid argument" what is wrong there?
[13:59] <bouma> how do i calculate what start cylinder to use?
[13:59] <bouma> each cyl is 16065 * 512 sectors apparently.. so how can it be off by 512 bytes?
[14:07] <pyxorg> Hi
[14:07] <pyxorg> Hi, my father wants to try ubuntu on a LiveUSB but he can't boot the stick. I try to boot it on my computer and it worked. Does anyone know what it is due to ?
[14:14] <delinquentme> does anyone else have a ~/build directory ?? im not sure what its for :D
[14:17] <Batta> ciao
[14:17] <Batta> !list
[14:18] <geirha> delinquentme: It's not there by default; it's not a standard dir. You'll sometimes see a build directory inside a source tree after you've built it.
[14:18] <duncan-nz> 12.04: I can't work out how to set my interface language as different from my locale setting. I want en_dk
[14:19] <geirha> !precise | duncan-nz
[14:19] <duncan-nz> geirha, thanks
[14:20] <prova> benvenuti al sud
[14:20] <crazydiamond> Hi. I've created my own keyboard layout, adding data to files in /symbols/ru and /rules/evdev.xml and  /rules/base.xml
[14:22] <crazydiamond> Hi. I've created my own keyboard layout, adding data to files in /symbols/ru and /rules/evdev.xml and  /rules/base.xml but I've got an error http://pastebin.com/iUszZhD5
[14:24] <urbann> I am still confused about this with 32 vs 64 bits support, my macbook run Lion 64 bits, Is it ok to download ubuntu 32  desktop CD ?
[14:25] <meldron> hi everybody, I have a problem with hdmi sound output. There is no option to select the hdmi sound output device. If I run aplay -l, the hdmi sound device is displayed. How can I add it to pulseaudio?
[14:29] <ahmed_> slt
[14:31] <pyxorg> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu LiveUSB persistent ?
[14:32] <ms-daisy> pyxorg see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:33] <rafikson> Hi
[14:34] <rafikson> Anyone Can Help With Audio Problem?
[14:35] <pyxorg> thank you ms-daisy i'll check it out
[14:35] <nannes> Hi. Is there a method to view what's behind asterisks in GNOME? (for wxample I need to read my password in pidgin)
[14:35] <rafikson> pyxorg
[14:35] <rafikson> Hawe You Any Nice Idea Abuout Problems With Sound?
[14:37] <pyxorg> Depends on your problem ^^
[14:38] <duncan-nz> rafikson just describe the problem
[14:39] <Guest57745> hii
[14:39] <Guest57745> I screwed up my home partition.. please help!!!
[14:39] <rafikson> Hi. Is Here Anyone Who Can Help Me With Sound Problem?
[14:39] <duncan-nz> nannes, I don't think so but there is sure to be a way to do it if you look deep enough into the system.
[14:39] <rafikson> ?
[14:39] <duncan-nz> Guest57745, what do you need help with?
[14:40] <ms-daisy> rafikson - not until you say exactly what the problem is.
[14:40] <duncan-nz> rafikson, just explain your problem, don't keep asking.
[14:40] <rafikson> I Dont Have Sound On My System.. Tried Talk With Friend On Skype But Microphone Doesnt Work Too
[14:40] <Guest57745> I was reducing the size of home partition of my ubuntu install ext4, with live cd of kubuntu partition manager..
[14:41] <Guest57745> it hanged in the middle.. and now the 250 gb home partition is showing no filesystem.. it is not accessible at all
[14:41] <duncan-nz> rafikson, have you tried with a different mic or a different program to find out what exactly is not working?
[14:41] <ms-daisy> rafikson- those are likely two different problems.
[14:41] <rafikson> Yeap Doesnt Work To
[14:41] <rafikson> Btw.. System Doesnt Have Sound
[14:41] <duncan-nz> Guest57745, that sounds bad. What state is it in now?
[14:41] <rafikson> not Only Programs
[14:41] <duncan-nz> rafikson, what so you mean by system doesn't have sound?
[14:42] <duncan-nz> rafikson, it makes no sounds or it has no speakers...
[14:42] <Guest57745> it shows only sda1 and unknown format
[14:42] <rafikson> I Got Speakers And Microphone But I Dont Have Sound..
[14:42] <rafikson> I Cant Listen Music and Doesnt Having Sound When Turning On Pc etc..
[14:42] <Guest57745> duncan-nz: in partition manager, it shows only delete optio.. i have 250 gb of valuable data..
[14:44] <Guest57745> help
[14:45] <sum11231231> is this a ubuntu support channel ?
[14:45] <ms-daisy> sum11231231 yes, just ask a question.
[14:45] <Guest57745> any idea to recover my data.. plz help
[14:45] <sum11231231> ok
[14:45] <mephisto_> Now this should be interesting
[14:46] <rafikson> What i should do to get back sound on my ubunt?:(
[14:46] <Guest57745> I was reducing the size of home partition of my ubuntu install ext4, with live cd of kubuntu partition manager..
[14:46] <Guest57745> it hanged in the middle.. and now the 250 gb home partition is showing no filesystem.. it is not accessible at all
[14:46] <mephisto_> format the partition and you can do a recov afterwards
[14:47] <oCean> mephisto_: how could one recover after formatting?
[14:48] <mephisto_> Well it really depends are you dual booting windows?
[14:48] <oCean> mephisto_: how could one recover after formatting?
[14:48] <mephisto_> or are you on a completely linux based drive?
[14:48] <oCean> mephisto_: how does that matter
[14:49] <gregL> Guest57745 Try a program called testdisk
[14:49] <Guest57745> gregL: ok gonna try this
[14:49] <sum11231231> I have a apache-server with userdir homepages turned on. My question is how to set up my firewall so that it only allows access to my apache-server for my LAN?
[14:49] <mephisto_> Theres a program called recuva that you can use in windows to acess the files from a formatted drive or a dead drive but its windows based only
[14:50] <crazydiamond> Hi. I've created my own keyboard layout, adding data to files in /symbols/ru and /rules/evdev.xml and  /rules/base.xml but I've got an error http://pastebin.com/iUszZhD5
[14:50] <Guest57745> mephisto_ it was an ext4 sda1
[14:50] <rafikson> Then.. Anyone can help me with sound problems?(no sound on pc)
[14:50] <duncan-nz> rafikson, (back again) what have you tried so far?
[14:51] <rafikson> I Tried Changing Software On Sound Propethies
[14:51] <mephisto_> In that case try this link
[14:51] <oCean> Guest57745: you were shrinking it while it was running? And is it currently still mounted?
[14:51] <mephisto_> sysblogd.wordpress.com/2008/01/05/data-recovery-with-linux-from-hard-drives-cd-roms-or-dvds/
[14:51] <oCean> Guest57745: what is the output of  fdisk -l ?
[14:52] <oCean> Guest57745: err,  sudo fdisk -l
[14:52] <Guest57745> oCean: it is not mounted .. in partition manager it is showing /dev/sda1 type:unknown
[14:52] <rafikson> Tried Reinstalling pulseaudio
[14:52] <Guest57745> mephisto thanks
[14:53] <sec^nd> I have a jailbroken ipod touch running IOS 5.1, how do I add music to it from ubuntu ?
[14:53] <auronandace> !ipod | sec^nd
[14:53] <rafikson> duncan-nz, changing software on sound propethies maked my friend hear himself only reinstalling pulseaudio maked nothing
[14:54] <sec^nd> !rockbox
[14:56] <duncan-nz> rafikson, if you still have a live cd you could check it the default settings work. I find that there are so many settings so many different places that it can be a jungle finding the cause of a problem.
[14:57] <vector> so .... is it possible to have network devices not managed by network-manager, yet still use network-manager to connect to a vpn?
[14:57] <rafikson> duncan-nz, then only livecd can make it work?
[14:57] <duncan-nz> rafikson, remember that Skype is not really a supported program - it's up to Skype to make it work. Maybe you should start by tring the built in applications like Sound Recorder.
[14:57] <rafikson> duncan-nz, i know:P but wanted test other programs too (with this sound problem)
[14:57] <duncan-nz> rafikson, I mean that maybe you've changed so many settings that it couls be good to see what the default settings were. But try Sound Recorder.
[14:58] <rafikson> duncan-nz, so i will try livecd thanks for your help
[14:58] <rafikson> duncan-nz, and have a nice day
[14:59] <Guest57745> oCean: sorry to be late..
[14:59] <Guest57745> the output is
[14:59] <Guest57745> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[14:59] <Guest57745> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
[14:59] <Guest57745> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[14:59] <Guest57745> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[14:59] <FloodBot1> Guest57745: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <Guest57745> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:00] <Guest57745> the output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/939759/
[15:00] <Guest57745> oCean:  the output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/939759/
[15:02] <klync> Guest57745: what's the problem?
[15:02] <klync> (apart from the fact that you probably want the "bootable" flag on sda1 not sda2)
[15:03] <Guest57745> I was reducing the size of home partition of my ubuntu install ext4, with live cd of kubuntu partition manager.. It hanged and now showing unknown format..
[15:03] <Guest57745> result of sudo fdisk -l is  http://paste.ubuntu.com/939759/
[15:04] <klync> Guest57745: oh. so is this partition table the way you want it? it's probably just the ext4 filesystem that's screwed up now.... did you follow a guide? *reducing* is very risky, afaik
[15:06] <Guest57745> klync: /dev/sda1 is not showing any filesystem.. in sda2 i installed kubuntu from which i am talking..
[15:06] <Guest57745> sda1 was ext4 before the partitioning with live cd.. now it is showing no filesystem
[15:08] <crazyandi86> Hi! is there a way to change permissions of /dev/tty0 to 660 permanently?
[15:08] <gregL> Guest57745: Use the program I told you about.. If it isn't damaged beyond repair, it will be able to recover the lost partition..
[15:08] <Guest57745> gregL: ok
[15:09] <gregL> Guest57745: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EncqYP1ijFg
[15:10] <Guest57745> gregL: thanks
[15:18] <NurseDad> has anyone else experienced the jock the ati/amd proprietary FGLRX drives (post -release updates)??
[15:18] <NurseDad> jocky
[15:19] <nosaku> hi
[15:20] <websly> Can someone help me with a keyboard problem ? :/
[15:20] <websly> I now get ¨ instead of "
[15:20] <websly> how do I get "" back?
[15:20] <realsilverscreen> releases ought to be renamed to 12.05
[15:21] <websly> not I have to hold ALT GR to get ""
[15:21] <oCean> realsilverscreen: do you have a support question?
[15:21] <websly> if I dont, I het ¨¨
[15:21] <websly> get*
[15:21] <Guest57745> websly: try numlock.. maybe u typed that
[15:22] <jose97> Hola
[15:22] <jose97> Hay españoles?
[15:22] <websly> Im sure sure my keyboard has numlick
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> !es
[15:22] <jose97> aaa
[15:22] <Saphir> hi, I just installed Ubuntu and I'd like to know how I can remove thunderbird from the top bar ? :)
[15:23] <websly> maby go into software manager and look it up
[15:23] <websly> then you can remove it
[15:23] <websly> software center*
[15:24] <jose97> how can I install minecraft on this OS
[15:24] <jose97> ??
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> !details| Saphir
[15:24] <websly> not sure of linux supports minecraft
[15:24] <websly> if*\
[15:24] <Pepe> sera
[15:25] <Pepe> !list
[15:25] <websly> pwd
[15:26] <Saphir> ok then, I tried to uncheck the thunderbird-globalmenu in the ubuntu software center, but it did nothing ; I also tried to remove this package manually via the terminal, but it is still present within the mail icon
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Saphir  try removing globalmenu itself
[15:27] <duncan-nz> websly, I think it does via wine. Otherwise there's the OSS Minetest
[15:28] <websly> I have a problem with my keyboard... I get ¨ instead of ".   atm I have to hold ALT GR to get "
[15:28] <websly> anyone know how to fix this?
[15:29] <papa> hi
[15:30] <Naugh> Hello ^^
[15:30] <websly> I have a problem with my keyboard... I get ¨ instead of ".   atm I have to hold ALT GR to get "
[15:30] <Naugh> Check your keyboard language settings
[15:30] <websly> should it be USA setting?
[15:30] <Naugh> yeah
[15:30] <websly> k ill try that
[15:31] <websly> it now set to ¨
[15:32] <websly> ¨English(USA with ...)¨
[15:33] <Saphir> I can't find any "globalmenu" package, I removed thunderbird using the software center, but it is still present when i click on the mail icon
[15:34] <n0wje> Saphir did you logoff and log back in?
[15:34] <matix> Hello everyone
[15:34] <ImTheDude> wht did they do with rythembox ? i can't get magnatune to work or the radio?
[15:34] <Saphir> Yes, I even tried to restart the computer
[15:34] <websly> Thx! I fixed it
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> Saphir  maybe you have to delete some hidden folder
[15:34] <Saphir> err, not after having uninstalled thunderbird completely though, I'm gonna try it out
[15:35] <n0wje> hmm
[15:35] <websly> It was set to English(US, with dead keys) instead of English(US)
[15:35] <NurseDad> is there something similar to "places" in ubuntu 12.04
[15:35] <Naugh> @Saphir /usr/lib/thunderbird-11.x.x is present?
[15:37] <Saphir> @Naugh : no
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> NurseDad  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <NurseDad> oh
[15:37] <NurseDad> sry
[15:37] <websly> Another small question... How do I set myself to root user? Im used to a distro where you're root by default. I tried "su", but I dont have the password
[15:37] <ikonia> !sudo | websly
[15:38] <bindi> websly: sudo -i
[15:38] <naftilos76> hi everyone, is there a filename filtel for nautilus for current dir that can show only files/dirs that include the keyword typed?
[15:38] <ikonia> !root | websly
[15:38] <bindi> websly: but you probably don't want to hang around as root all the time, check the above links
[15:39] <websly> I know the sudo command, but I want to be the super user
[15:39] <bindi> what for?
[15:39] <wonderman> hi, is it possible to close a window with unity, when it shows all windows within an application, is there a shortcut to close each window? otherwise it takes ages
[15:39] <naftilos76> anyone?
[15:39] <Naugh> Being root is unsecure... ^^
[15:39] <websly> to explore this operating system
[15:39] <ikonia> websly: then read the documentation of sudo, and listen to what people just told you "sudo -i"
[15:39] <ikonia> websly: you don't need root for that
[15:41] <william0> hi all, i have forgotten my irc passwd, how can i find it?
[15:42] <ikonia> william0: talk to the guys in #freenode
[15:42] <william0> ok, thanks
[15:42] <Saphir_> -can't understand :s- it didn't disappeard when I restarted the computer, but it did when I logged out and in again, thank you for your help though ;)
[15:44] <ririno> ragazzi help
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> ririno  with what?
[15:46] <covi> Hi all. Any cmus user out there?
[15:47] <ikonia> covi: cmus ?
[15:48] <covi> ikonia: yep
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> !nfo cmus
[15:48] <ikonia> what is a cmu ?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> !info cmus
[15:48] <ikonia> oooh the application
[15:48] <covi> MonkeyDust: r u using cmus?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> covi  no, but why don't you just ask your question
[15:49] <covi> It seems that all last.fm scrobblers written for cmus do not work on my Ubuntu. Really bothering.
[15:51] <wonderman> ikonia: is there a simple answer to my question? ive looked up shortcuts etc
[15:52] <Ghost_Berry> is there a way to remove the side bar from ubuntu 11.10
[15:52] <pangolin> !notunity | Ghost_Berry
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> wonderman  try alt-f4
[15:52] <wonderman> hoho ?
[15:53] <wonderman> it would need to be a middle mouse click or something
[15:53] <wonderman> im sure GNOME has this ?
[15:57] <adamSs> Hey There, has anybody found a good guid for getting dual monitors to work in ubuntu? nvidia config detects both, but one is stuck as being blank white
[15:57] <Ghost_Berry> pangolin: thanks ?I am busy checking it out, will let you know if it helps
[16:08] <rredd4> I have 2 users that login to ubuntu.  is it possible to have a user sign in and leave programs running and switch users?
[16:09] <rredd4> kinda like windows, that has a switch users option, which leaves programs active
[16:09] <dwescott> rredd4, there should be a switch user option
[16:10] <rredd4> how do i find it dwescott?
[16:10] <hotryx> hello
[16:10] <rredd4> all i c is logout
[16:12] <thys> updated to 11.10, trying to login into Gnome or Xcef. Black screen immediatly. Only  Unity works - any ideas?
[16:13] <streblo> last night i was messing around with a machine i have and i wound up in a situation where i cant boot and im always dropped into initramfs
[16:13] <streblo> i made a usb stick with unetbootin
[16:13] <streblo> but i cant boot that either
[16:13] <escott> streblo: "messing around"
[16:13] <auronandace> streblo: a dedicated test machine or a vm is better to mess around in
[16:14] <streblo> when i say messing around, i mean i was doing nothing that should have caused my machine to not be able to boot
[16:14] <streblo> i think i opened bios settings, then closed them without saving
[16:14] <streblo> thats all i did
[16:15] <Artemis3> thys, try moving all the data of your user home into a sub folder (kind of backup) (eg: mv /home/user into /home/user/user_bkp or similar) or you could try making a new user and login with that just to test
[16:16] <escott> rredd4, im afraid i dont run unity so i'm not sure where it would be there. it is present in gnome3
[16:16] <acid_mark> hi
[16:16] <thys> commencing new user test, brb. thanks
[16:18] <ramoncorreia> hi
[16:19] <ramoncorreia> do you user ubuntu?
[16:19] <acid_mark> connect to wpa connection via terminal
[16:19] <dougl> can I have compiz effects with 11.10?
[16:19] <purplefool> what is the best program to use for mounting an .iso files
[16:20] <auronandace> dougl: compiz is used by unity by default for 11.10
[16:20] <auronandace> !iso | purplefool
[16:20] <ramoncorreia> hi
[16:21] <purplefool> kk, thx for the info you 2!
[16:21] <anddam> hello, I'm on 11.10 using LXDE, is there a way to let the system remember wifi password without using networkmanager for gnome or kde?
[16:21] <auronandace> !ccsm | dougl
[16:21] <ramoncorreia> someone help-me!
[16:21] <Artemis3> rredd4, that used to be in the panel, by clicking the user name (actions or something) forgot what that was called, top right
[16:21] <dougl> auronandace, thanks :)
[16:21] <auronandace> ramoncorreia: to help you we need to know whats wrong
[16:22] <Artemis3> rredd4, should show you the other user name, you click and it switches ;)
[16:22] <rredd4> Artemis3 hmmm?
[16:22] <anddam> I mean what's a "system way" to store wifi password, regardless of desktop environment?
[16:22] <wildman330> Anyone know how to get seahorse to stop caching gpg passphrases?
[16:22] <ramoncorreia> i want to be a developer ubuntu
[16:22] <rredd4> Artemis3 ok, gnome3 only?
[16:22] <Artemis3> rredd4, isn't it there in unity?
[16:23] <anddam> ramoncorreia: like not an ubuntu's developer but a "developer ubuntu"?
[16:23] <rredd4> unity?
[16:23] <auronandace> !dev | ramoncorreia
[16:23] <Artemis3> rredd4, it was also in gnome2... gnome3's shell is alien for me sorry~
[16:24] <ramoncorreia> tank you
[16:24] <rredd4> Artemis3 not sure what unity is?. my gf is using the compute now, I just wanted to be able to tell her how to switch users
[16:24] <rredd4> Artemis3  compute= computer
[16:24] <Artemis3> rredd4, Unity is the default Ubuntu desktop interface
[16:24] <rredd4> ok
[16:24] <auronandace> rredd4: unity is the default desktop environment since 11.04
[16:25] <johnbee> what is the official release date for 12.04 LTS?
[16:25] <Belial`> the 26th
[16:25] <auronandace> rredd4: in 11.04 unity is built on top of gnome2 but in 11.10 it is on top of gnome3
[16:25] <johnbee> thnaks
[16:25] <Artemis3> rredd4, iirc you can see your user name in the top right, you can click there and the other users should show
[16:26] <xworld_> hai guys anyone know how to find which ip is using my wifi router?
[16:26] <rredd4> Artemis3  auronanadce  ty, I found it!
[16:26] <auronandace> xworld_: consult your routers documentation/settings
[16:27] <Artemis3> rredd4, good to know :)
[16:27] <rredd4> yes!
[16:27] <anddam> xworld_: if your router is routing yuo to the internet check some service like checkip.dyndns.org
[16:28] <ramoncorreia> someone of the brazin in chat?
[16:28] <anddam> s/yuo/you
[16:28] <anddam> any hint about the wifi password thing?
[16:28] <jrib> !away > ladder3
[16:29] <acid_mark> is there a way to monitor traffic in secured network
[16:29] <auronandace> anddam: isn't wpa_supplicant used no matter what desktop environment you're on?
[16:29] <anddam> auronandace: idk, last time I used wifi in linux I was on WEP
[16:30] <thys> hi
[16:30] <ramoncorreia> do you used ubuntu how much time?
[16:30] <auronandace> anddam: if i were you i'd change to wpa
[16:30] <auronandace> !wep | anddam
[16:30] <thys> I could login to gnome with another user but going back to unity it froze again.. leading me to believe the problem is the switching
[16:31] <anddam> auronandace: I know, that network doesn't exists anymore since it was several years ago
[16:31] <anddam> exist*
[16:31] <auronandace> ramoncorreia: what do you mean?
[16:31] <auronandace> anddam: good
[16:32] <anddam> auronandace: the point is I'm not used to ubuntu and I'd like to avoid typing password each time this user (non admin) logs on this 11.10
[16:32] <anddam> auronandace: I'm going to search wpa_supplicant for starter
[16:32] <bobo37773> anddam: Huh? Whats going on?
[16:33] <auronandace> anddam: sounds like a keyring issue to me
[16:33] <ramoncorreia> i dont know how to read in english very well
[16:33] <anddam> could be, IIRC keyring are handled on a per-desktop environment basis
[16:33] <Phillip> Hey guys i want to install xubuntu on my netbook but it currently has ubuntu on and no cd drive, how can I install xubuntu on it?
[16:34] <auronandace> ramoncorreia: what is your first language?
[16:34] <bobo37773> anddam: Thats true. But you can eval keyrings on other desktops as well
[16:34] <ramoncorreia> portuguese
[16:34] <auronandace> !usb | Phillip
[16:34] <anddam> bobo37773: the user I'm talking about is using lxde
[16:34] <Phillip>  Hey guys i want to install xubuntu on my netbook but it currently has
[16:34] <anddam> bobo37773: gnome is installed on the system, tho'
[16:34] <auronandace> !portuguese | ramoncorreia
[16:35] <Phillip> I dont have any flash drives is there any way i can make wubi work inside of ubuntu?
[16:35] <bobo37773> anddam: You named your user lxde? Or you mean the desktop environment?
[16:35] <plouffe> Phillip, you can install xubuntu-desktop
[16:35] <anddam> I meant the DE
[16:35] <bobo37773> oh okay
[16:35] <ramoncorreia> tank you
[16:35] <plouffe> then you should be able to boot into both
[16:35] <auronandace> phillip: no, wubi is for windows
[16:35] <bobo37773> anddam: and what is the issue? I logged in just now and didn't see
[16:35] <dougl> I installed ccsm, enabled desktop cube and wobbly windows and when I rebooted I have no bar on the left of my screen... and I really dont know my way around unity - crap, I hope someone feels sorry for me and helps me out - lol
[16:36] <Lax> Im on 11.10 and trying to allow myself to run the make command, When I try to type the following command I get the error "sudo: aptitude: command not found"  The command Im running is "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[16:36] <anddam> bobo37773: every time the user logs in wifi password is asked, I'd like the password to be stored instead.
[16:36] <bobo37773> anddam: Are you using networkmanager or wicd etc..?
[16:36] <thys> switching user completely hangs the system every time, what is up with this?
[16:36] <auronandace> dougl: i don't know if unity works with the desktop cube
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> anddam  password or wpa key?
[16:36] <johnbee> try nm-applet
[16:36] <anddam> WPA key
[16:37] <anddam> bobo37773: idk, how do I check that?
[16:37] <auronandace> anddam: networkmanager is default
[16:38] <dougl> auronandace, well desktop cube has 2 sides to it and I can rotate it but no bar... hmm, I guess that qualifys as not working tho...
[16:38] <milen8204> Hello all my gedit cant read bulgarian language what should I do to make bulgarian language readable ?
[16:38] <dougl> maybe I will switch to gnome
[16:39] <Papa-Smurf> Hello
[16:39] <auronandace> dougl: i imagine gnome3 wouldn't work with the desktop cube either (because of the way workspaves are managed in gnome3)
[16:39] <bobo37773> anddam: Yeah your probably using networkmanager if I had to guess. Try something like this --> http://pastie.org/3829103
[16:39] <auronandace> workspaces
[16:39] <anddam> auronandace: that doesn't answer how to check if I'm using it, tho'
[16:40] <dougl> auronandace, ok - thanks for the info... is there a older version of gnome I could use?
[16:40] <auronandace> anddam: the logic is if you didn't change the network manager you are using then you're likely using the one that is default
[16:40] <bobo37773> anddam: You need to eval the keyring in openbox / lxde or whatever. Just use htop to see if you are running networkmanger
[16:41] <dougl> I want my 11.10 install to behave like my 10.10 install on my other machine... is this possible?
[16:41] <auronandace> dougl: no, gnome2 is no longer supported
[16:41] <Papa-Smurf> Hi
[16:41] <auronandace> dougl: compiz works on xfce too though
[16:41] <bobo37773> anddam: Install htop and then run htop in terminal. After that press "f3" to search and type in networkmanager or nm-applet or whatever
[16:41] <DaemonFC> there's still the GNOME 3 Fallback desktop that's kind of sort of set up like GNOME 2
[16:41] <Papa-Smurf> Hello
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> dougl  i use ubuntu classic, it's much like gnome2, but it is gnome3
[16:41] <DaemonFC> that was cast out into Universe, but it works
[16:42] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: isn't that called fallback mode?
[16:42] <anddam> bobo37773: why htop rather than top?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> auronandace  yes, guess so
[16:42] <milen8204> Could I get some help please
[16:42] <anddam> bobo37773: to filter?
[16:42] <dougl> auronandace, ok... thanks !xfce | dougl
[16:42] <captine> hi all.  made teh jump.  bought acer laptop with not OS.  now, if only the philippines had faster update mirror.  killing me trying to update 11.10
[16:42] <dougl> MonkeyDust, thanks
[16:43] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: just clarifying, because 11.04 has classic and that is gnome2
[16:43] <dougl> !xfce | dougl
[16:44] <anddam> atm I'm in a GNOME session, I need to switch to LXDE to check but I'm upgrading the system and I think I have to wait it completes
[16:44] <auronandace> milen8204: what do you need help with?
[16:44] <Papa-Smurf> Hi
[16:45] <auronandace> Papa-Smurf: greetings
[16:45] <dougl> err - how do I get a command prompt with no sidebar or command bar?
[16:45] <milen8204> auronandace, My system cant read a txt files on my language
[16:45] <dougl> err - or enable sshd?
[16:45] <escott> dougl, ctrl-alt-f1
[16:45] <Papa-Smurf> auronandace, thanks
[16:45] <milen8204> I have installed my language on language support
[16:45] <auronandace> milen8204: which language? what program are you opening the text file with?
[16:45] <dougl> escott, oh yah - thanks
[16:46] <anddam> bobo37773: both NetworkManager and nm-applet are running but this could be due to the GNOME session, the issue is with the lxde session (not my user)
[16:46] <Phillip> I just installed xubuntu on my laptop and my internet isnt working on the wireless or on wired please help
[16:47] <milen8204> auronandace, the language is Bulgarian (Cyrillic ) like Russian and the gedit see only symbols
[16:47] <auronandace> anddam: i think lxde uses networkmanager by default too
[16:47] <anddam> in that case how do I say NetworkManger to remember the wifi pasword?
[16:47] <milen8204> auronandace, like this Äèøàé, äúëáîêî è áàâíî
[16:47] <anddam> password*
[16:47] <Lax> Anyone here use gcc or make?
[16:47] <AngrySpam> hello can anybody help me with an error?
[16:48] <bobo37773> anddam: I already told you how to do this. Did you look at the script I sent you?
[16:48] <anddam> I understand why high traffic channels can be stressing
[16:48] <Phillip> I just installed xubuntu on my laptop and my internet isnt working on the wireless or on wired please help
[16:48] <auronandace> milen8204: those don't appear as symbols to me (but i'm on pcbsd9 at the mo)
[16:48] <anddam> bobo37773: I did
[16:49] <milen8204> auronandace, they are symbols for me what should I do ?
[16:49] <AngrySpam> hello can anybody help me with an error?
[16:49] <bobo37773> anddam: So run that at boot with lxde and test it out. Did it not work?
[16:49] <anddam> bobo37773: as I wrote I have to wait the upgrade finish
[16:49] <wylde> milen8204: is it just gedit that is having a problem?
[16:49] <escott> !anyone | AngrySpam
[16:50] <AngrySpam> Alright, im getting an error when i try to install things from Software Center but i get this error:
[16:50] <AngrySpam> http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r601/ForumTroII/Screenshotat2012-04-21124134.png
[16:50] <dougl> escott, oh yah - thanks ... err how do I get back to my unity? ctrl+alt+F7 does not work
[16:50] <auronandace> milen8204: i'm guessing here but you could look for language packs in synaptic, any bulgarian cyrillic one you haven't installed?
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> dougl  ctrl + arrow left
[16:50] <Armadillogeddon> how to handle an unhandlable error? Anybody?
[16:51] <anddam> bobo37773: gnome-keyring-daemon isn't setting GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET, is that expected?
[16:51] <Naugh> Ж
[16:51] <Naugh> it works well for me
[16:51] <Phillip> I just installed xubuntu on my laptop and my internet isnt working on the wireless or on wired please help
[16:51] <anddam> bobo37773: I'm asking as you explicitly export it
[16:51] <escott> dougl, "does not work" =  ?
[16:51] <Naugh> Weird char...
[16:51] <Armadillogeddon> AngrySpam: I have deduced that nobody cares. All 1658 of em.
[16:51] <dougl> MonkeyDust, thanks.
[16:51] <Naugh> but it works >_<
[16:51] <bobo37773> anddam: Maybe not in lxde. You will have to test it and see
[16:51] <escott> AngrySpam, those details might be helpful
[16:51] <milen8204> wylde, and notepad, I had set up the Libre offic writer on cyrillic and the words has appeared
[16:51] <anddam> bobo37773: I'm in GNOME now, tho'
[16:51] <wylde> milen8204: have you checked the setting in gedit under the Tools --> Set Language
[16:51] <plouffe> Phillip, run nm-applet, it will show up in your panel. You can select a network
[16:51] <wylde> milen8204: ahh ok
[16:51] <AngrySpam> escott: what details?
[16:52] <AngrySpam> oh fail :P
[16:52] <bobo37773> anddam: So how is anyone suppose to help you with your problem if you cannot test different solutions
[16:52] <milen8204> wylde, I made Language Bulgarian
[16:52] <anddam> bobo37773: that's untrue, I can test different solutions, I just have to wait a few minutes
[16:52] <milen8204> auronandace, I will see what is going to happen in Synaptic
[16:52] <dougl> escott, sorry... slow computer was/is having rendering issues while xfce is installing in tty1 - thot something was broken. thanks for your attention
[16:53] <anddam> bobo37773: back to the point should gnome-keyring-daemon set GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET when in a GNOME session?
[16:53] <captine> is there a way to test the different mirror to see which is fastest?
[16:53] <captine> for updates
[16:54] <bobo37773> anddam: lxde is not a gnome session.
[16:54] <anddam> bobo37773: that's correct but why did you point that out?
[16:54] <bouma> where does 17.4kb come from when parted starts there when you tell it to create a partition
[16:55] <AngrySpam> escott: http://pastebin.com/RRhKJ1Jp
[16:55] <AngrySpam> details^
[16:55] <dooma09> with download speed of 933 kbps, is that good enough to watch youtube without buffering constant buffering?
[16:56] <Armadillogeddon> dooma09: no
[16:56] <escott> AngrySpam, you installing or removing?
[16:56] <anddam> bobo37773: https://gist.github.com/2438367  is this a sane output?
[16:57] <AngrySpam> escott: installing...
[16:57] <auronandace> dooma09: not really a ubuntu support question
[16:58] <justdave> does flash suck worse in precise than it did in oneiric, or do I have something else wrong on my system?
[16:58] <Bronze> Hi, I'm running 12.04 LTS as Virtual machine, hosted by my ISP but I cant install some perl modules, have the repos been moved? (the repos for 12.04)
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Bronze  #ubuntu+1 for you
[16:58] <jrib> !12.04 | justdave, Bronze
[16:58] <auronandace> justdave: flash sucks wherever you are
[16:58] <AngrySpam> escott: am i still beng helped? -.-
[16:58] <justdave> meh, I hotkeyed the wrong channel, sorry. :)  (I'm in there already)
[16:58] <bobo37773> anddam: Looks normal to me. But probably won't work unless you try the script I gave you. Maybe it will. But I doubt it. I am assuming you are still not in lxde?
[16:58] <Jamms> Can anyone tell me why the first time I run killall unity-2d-shell it restarts it but the second time I run it it kills process but doesn't restart? (12.04) James
[16:58] <Bronze> thanks
[16:59] <escott> AngrySpam, im trying to see what you might be able to do
[17:00] <chiiiiiz> hello!
[17:00] <Armadillogeddon> uhhhh hi
[17:00] <auronandace> chiiiiiz: greetings
[17:00] <escott> AngrySpam, are you using a wine ppa or the vanilla package
[17:01] <chiiiiiz> does anyone know how to connecT Firefox 11 and Jack, to have the output of flash through jack?
[17:01] <milen8204> auronandace, nothing happen still see symbols
[17:01] <AngrySpam> idk...
[17:02] <AngrySpam> escott: how do i figure this out 0.o
[17:02] <escott> AngrySpam, you would know if you enabled a ppa
[17:02] <chiiiiiz> I am using Tangostudio as distro for music recording , there is only jack installed... and I want to listen to titles on grooveshark...
[17:02] <auronandace> milen8204: did you install anything from synaptic? any more language packs?
[17:02] <AngrySpam> escott: well seeming how i know NOTHING about this, i dont know what the fudge that is.
[17:02] <escott> AngrySpam, i would try opening a terminal and typing "sudo apt-get install wine"
[17:03] <escott> AngrySpam, that might give something more detailed
[17:03] <milen8204> yes and some multilanguage pack
[17:04] <Armadillogeddon> wait, does ubuntu have the tty terminals from alt+f1-f4 keys?
[17:04] <auronandace> milen8204: and you restarted afterwards i guess?
[17:04] <milen8204> auronandace, I am trying to set subtitles  on my VLC
[17:04] <escott> Armadillogeddon, yes
[17:04] <milen8204> auronandace, yes i did
[17:05] <Armadillogeddon> oh
[17:05] <auronandace> !tty | Armadillogeddon
[17:05] <echo083> I opened firefox on a website which made it crash now everytime I start firefox it tries to restore the session and is freezing what can I do ? :(
[17:05] <Armadillogeddon> nifty bot
[17:05] <auronandace> milen8204: hmm, most perplexing.. not sure what to suggest next sorry
[17:06] <milen8204> auronandace, ok thanks for try
[17:06] <echo083> no idea ? :(
[17:06] <anddam> bobo37773 left, anyway I'm in LXDE and NetworkManager and nm-applet are running, I re-setted the network's wifi password in the applet and it seems to be stored now
[17:07] <PRabyte1> i noticed something today, i have in /etc   group, and group- what is that latter for? is that something is on most linux? or specific to ubuntu? i don't remember seeing that before. what is it for?
[17:07] <anddam> out of curiosity how's a wifi password stored without a graphical environment?
[17:07] <wylde> milen8204: I didn't catch what version of Ubuntu you were on?
[17:08] <milen8204> Ubuntu 11.10
[17:08] <PRabyte1> anddam: i believe you can hand type wireless info into your wlan0 or interfaces under /etc/network/
[17:08] <anddam> I mean all the cases I saw on linux systems were using helpers/applets when a user logs into a graphic DE but how would it be set for a terminal only system
[17:08] <m_cc> \leave
[17:08] <anddam> where would I check this on official documentation?
[17:08] <escott> PRabyte1, i think its the backup
[17:09] <anddam> I couldn't find this topic, maybe it was my fault when searching (I did search)
[17:09] <auronandace> anddam: in the manpages to wpa_supplicant
[17:09] <PRabyte1> escott: ok
[17:09] <wylde> milen8204: in system setings > Language Support on the Language tab you have the right one set? And possibly on the Regional Formats tab as well?
[17:10] <PRabyte1> anddam: the settings are in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[17:10] <PRabyte1> anddam: i dont remember path for wicd
[17:10] <Ghost_Berry> is there a way to remove the side bar from ubuntu 11.10
[17:10] <wylde> milen8204: if those are correct then it might be good to check the Keyboard Layout as well.
[17:10] <inbox> how
[17:11] <auronandace> Ghost_Berry: yes, choose a different desktop instead of unity
[17:11] <inbox> how to update ubuntu11.4
[17:11] <milen8204> wylde, I can write on Bulgarian. Аз съм българче, обичам.
[17:11] <fl1bbl3> which is good advice in any case imo
[17:11] <anddam> ok, I'll check
[17:11] <wylde> milen8204: so it's fixed?
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| Ghost_Berry
[17:11] <auronandace> inbox: update or upgrade?
[17:12] <AngrySpam> hey i have wine now, i think
[17:12] <AngrySpam> :D
[17:12] <AngrySpam> nono
[17:12] <AngrySpam> yea.. :D
[17:12] <anddam> thanks, bye
[17:12] <inbox> upgrade
[17:12] <auronandace> !upgrade | inbox
[17:13] <milen8204> wylde, no I can read files written in Bulgarian :D
[17:13] <PRabyte1> escott: i can do a less on it, but not on group- less show it in binary format i think, but not clear text, strings shows something
[17:13] <wylde> milen8204: well thats some progress at least :)
[17:13] <milen8204> wylde, yea :D
[17:14] <wylde> milen8204: did you check your Keyboard Layout?
[17:14] <milen8204> yes
[17:14] <inbox> how to connect nokia phne on ubuntu
[17:15] <wylde> milen8204: is it set properly for Bulgarian? ... I only have 1 entry in there myself so I'm "flying blind" here. lol
[17:16] <milen8204> wylde, What do you mean set properly for Bulgarian ? :D
[17:17] <wylde> milen8204: ok at this point you can only read Bulgarian? Or can you type AND read Bulgarian right now?
[17:17] <escott> PRabyte1, im not sure what the rational is for having group- having 600 permissions, but it does
[17:18] <milen8204> wylde,  I have done it thanks
[17:18] <wylde> milen8204: ahh ok, glad you got sorted out :)
[17:18] <milen8204> wylde, thanks a lot
[17:22] <raphael> hey
[17:22] <Andsim-AFK> hello
[17:22] <Andsim> hi ineed help on 10.04 lts
[17:23] <xubuntu`fan> i would like to know if anyone use a ppa to get xfce4.10 on xubuntu
[17:23] <carlo> ciao ciao
[17:23] <Andsim> i am having this issue http://pastebin.com/yJAUtD36
[17:23] <carlo> !list
[17:24] <carlo> !list
[17:25] <escott> Andsim, what did you do to your path? Check /root/.bashrc
[17:27] <Andsim> http://pastebin.com/3RgfcpRf
[17:27] <Andsim> that is all
[17:28] <Andsim> there other in that file but i copy first 4 line
[17:29] <kw01f> Hi
[17:29] <escott> Andsim, that should be ok, although generally you want to put your additions to path at the end (unless you intend to override system binaries)
[17:29] <The-_-Pro> Good morning, i have a problem with jolio cloud 1.2 not picking up my wireless and wondering if anyone is able to help out with this matter.
[17:30] <theadmin> The-_-Pro: jolios isn't supported here.
[17:30] <PRabyte1> escott: seems that root would have read write access for changes, and no one else. makes sense
[17:30] <MrUnagi> is there a way to auto recconect on loss of ssh?
[17:30] <The-_-Pro> Sorry
[17:31] <Andsim> umm
[17:31] <The-_-Pro> i tried to find there channel and can not locate them
[17:31] <escott> PRabyte1, im just saying there is no obvious reason why a non-priv users should not be able to read the old version of the groups file
[17:31] <dougl> I have installed xubuntu but my machine still boots into ubuntu (that is not functioning) automatically - how do I make ubuntu boot into xbuntu automatically? All I have is a gui (unity) and a command prompt.
[17:31] <Andsim> i try to upgrade the system wont work due the those error'
[17:32] <theadmin> The-_-Pro: They don't even have one it'd seem
[17:32] <escott> Andsim, its going to be some file in /root/ the bashrc looks ok, but check that you dont have a /root/.profile or /root/.login etc
[17:33] <ms-daisy> MrUnagi - what caused the ssh to drop?
[17:33] <Andsim> k brb
[17:33] <escott> Andsim, you can also just remove those files and it should start working
[17:33] <The-_-Pro> weird it stats on their website that the channel is on this server.
[17:33] <ilyak> hi *
[17:33] <The-_-Pro> thank-you for your help.
[17:33] <PRabyte1> escott: i cant understand why there is a bak up and placed right next to it.... vs somewhere else
[17:33] <Andsim> i dont see .login files
[17:34] <ilyak> How's persuading pedobear going along?
[17:34] <dougl> how to I log out of unity when unity is all messed up?
[17:35] <escott> dougl, have you tried: "export DISPLAY=:0; unity --replace
[17:35] <dougl> escott, no - let me try to get a command prompt and try that - thanks
[17:35] <ms-daisy> ilyak - wtf?
[17:35] <wylde> !wtf
[17:36] <darthr> Hi guys, is there any *buntu distro which is fully customizable as installed on hdd, but run from usb flash and can run on more than one system? thanks
[17:36] <escott> dougl, there is also a unity --reset command if unity doesnt come back
[17:36] <ms-daisy> sorry ubuntu bot ;)
[17:36] <dougl> escott, what is the command to open a terminal in X ?
[17:37] <The-_-Pro> Is ubuntu going to get back to a netbook version?
[17:37] <wylde> darthr: ummm all of them? Depends what you "specifically" need.
[17:37] <dougl> escott, I only have access to point and click in my filesystem
[17:37]  * dougl is getting pissed off with the new and improved ubuntu
[17:37] <escott> dougl, ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[17:38] <wylde> dougl: ctrl+alt+t
[17:38] <dougl> wylde, - bless you!!!! you are a good soul - thanks
[17:39] <theadmin> dougl: "/usr/bin/gnome-terminal" is what it runs, by the way.
[17:39] <wylde> The-_-Pro: the netbook version has been incorporated in ubuntu proper as I understand it.
[17:40] <Andsim> i donbt what i am going still not experences
[17:41] <dougl> theadmin, thanks...
[17:42] <escott> Andsim, can you paste the output of "sudo env"
[17:42] <Andsim> ok one3 secx
[17:43] <escott> Andsim, that might be different from a normal root login shell so also try "sudo -i; bash --login; env"
[17:43] <Andsim> nope i am on root
[17:44] <dougl> Hey guys and gals... thanks for the help - I am getting frustrated and starting to use foul language so I better take a break and come back to my ubuntu issues later with a cooler head. Thanks again for the help and sorry for the language.
[17:45] <aristidesfl> a
[17:46] <Andsim> escott: http://pastebin.com/XDK8N2AV
[17:47] <escott> Andsim, and which ldconfig does not list the path to ldconfig
[17:47] <Papa-Smurf> Hello
[17:48] <Andsim> yeah same othewr 3 program
[17:48] <Papa-Smurf> I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output error when trying ifconfig wlan0 up ¿? does anyone knows a cause?
[17:48] <escott> Andsim, so ls -l /sbin/ldconfig shows what?
[17:49] <Andsim> let me see
[17:49] <Ghost_Berry> hi
[17:50] <Ghost_Berry> I cannot recall who all helped me out with the side bars  which I ultimately needed to change the desktop as was pointed out
[17:51] <Ghost_Berry> but I would just like to say thank you for helping to make my ubuntu experince a good one
[17:51] <Ghost_Berry> Thank you!!
[17:52] <Andsim> escott: http://pastebin.com/AuEThGrW
[17:53] <PRabyte> thanks all
[17:53] <n3ur0tix> trying to think of a cli id3 tagger available for ubuntu, beet-something?! I'm at a loss!
[17:53] <escott> Andsim, i have no idea what is going on. the path in env looks fine. see if "echo $PATH" prints the correct path
[17:54] <Andsim> ok let try that
[17:55] <Xtreme> guys i have a gnome terminal question.. how can i set its transparency to look at the windows behind it?
[17:56] <escott> Xtreme, right click on the terminal and go to the profile
[17:56] <Andsim> hmm no sbin the path
[17:56] <n3ur0tix> Xtreme, in the background settings
[17:56] <Guest94472> hols
[17:56] <Guest94472> hola
[17:56] <escott> Andsim, ? but env showed a path with /sbin
[17:56] <Guest94472> ablais español??
[17:56] <n3ur0tix> Xtreme, as escott said , in the profile
[17:56] <mirko2> Xtreme:  you need a compositing window manager like compiz (or fake one with xcompmgr)
[17:56] <Xtreme> when i do it that way, i can see my wallpaper..
[17:56] <bekks> ! es | Guest94472
[17:56] <escott> Xtreme, its actually preferences the profiles
[17:57] <n3ur0tix> Xtreme, what OS version, compositor?
[17:57] <escott> Xtreme, it will be fake transparency unless you have a compositor runnign
[17:57] <Andsim> hold let me paste bin
[17:57] <Guest94472> hi
[17:57] <Qazjap11> Hi, can somebody help me to recover a file from ext4 filesystem? I had been trying to do that in the past week, but I couldn't succeed. Thanks.
[17:57] <Xtreme> mirko2, means? coz maybe that is my problem.. when i set the transparency though profile.. i see my wallpaper.. escott, yes its fake one..
[17:57] <n3ur0tix> Qazjap11, what you used so far?
[17:57] <edwardd12> #join linuxdistrocommunity
[17:58] <Andsim> escott: http://pastebin.com/qMYXJZpy
[17:58] <Xtreme> does gnome has a buildin compositor?
[17:58] <escott> Xtreme, you have to run a compositor to have true transparency
[17:58] <Qazjap11> n3ur0tix, debugfs, extundelete
[17:58] <n3ur0tix> Qazjap11, take a look at photorec or testdisk
[17:58] <escott> Andsim, what does "env" say without the sudo?
[17:58] <Xtreme> escott, can you tell me how to?
[17:58] <Andsim> hold on
[17:58] <n3ur0tix> Qazjap11, good luck, I had mixed results... I hope it wasn't anything massively important! :)
[17:58] <escott> !undelete | Qazjap11 probably long since gone
[17:59] <escott> Xtreme, if you are running 11.04 or up then a compositor will start if your graphics card supports it
[18:00] <Andsim> same path as in poastebin i just put in few sec
[18:00] <escott> Xtreme, you could try and run jockey-gtk and install drivers for your graphics card
[18:00] <n3ur0tix> Xtreme, which gnome version?
[18:00] <Andsim> pastebin coming
[18:01] <Qazjap11> n3ur0tix, photorec is not good, as I try to recover my wrapped-passphrase.. I'll try testdisk, hopefully It can locate such files.
[18:01] <Xtreme> n3ur0tix, how to check? sorry new to gnome.. gnome terminal is 2.3
[18:01] <n3ur0tix> Qazjap11, photorec is not just for photos, FYI
[18:01] <Andsim> escott: http://pastebin.com/tEy5ey72
[18:01] <Qazjap11> escott, I have already been at ubuntu help, but couldn't find something usefull. I'll try the other links, thanks.
[18:02] <Xtreme> n3ur0tix, yes its 2.3
[18:02] <dougl> escott, FYI - did those suggestions to restore unity and it is still not functional... how do I make my ubuntu install boot to xfce?
[18:02] <n3ur0tix> Xtreme, sudo apt-cache show gnome
[18:02] <mirko2> Xtreme: the more interesting question is which ubuntu version. the (older) standard ubuntu windowmanager metacity doesn not do real alpha-channel transparency. either you need to use compiz (that thing with the cool 3D cube) or install xcompmgr (a command line program) and run it.
[18:02] <Qazjap11> n3ur0tix, It's written it is used to search for known formats. I don't think the wrapped-passphrase of ecryptfs has some format. Thanks anyway :)
[18:02] <n3ur0tix> Xtreme, gnome-terminal is not gnome ;)
[18:03] <n3ur0tix> Qazjap11, ah... that could be tricky
[18:03] <escott> Andsim, this path is different from the sudo env path. sudo is doing something that is fixing the path. i'm not clear why this path is messed up
[18:04] <Andsim> yeah i didnt setup the server company did for mee when i brought the server
[18:05] <august1914> ?After disabling root login (11.10), what do I need to do to enable scp to same box?  I get "Permission denied" for scp with my username/password, which is valid for ssh login.
[18:05] <dougl> Can anyone help me boot my machine to xubuntu?
[18:05] <escott> Andsim, you could check /etc/profile but that doesn't seem a likely source of the problem
[18:05] <escott> dougl, do you have it set to autologin?
[18:05] <Andsim> k
[18:05] <dougl> escott, thanks =- yes
[18:06] <escott> dougl, you'll need to disable that. check /etc/lightdm there might be a file you can modify there
[18:07] <dougl> escott, ccsm changes broke my unity and now I try to ccsm and change options back and get seg faults... will do thanks
[18:07] <Andsim> escott: http://pastebin.com/Wkf2rjQj
[18:09] <Igramul> Hi, is there currently any issue with the package servers? I get the following error from a "sudo apt-get udpate": Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:10] <mirko2> august1914:  doesn't sound like an scp problem (as you can ssh into it) but a normal file permisson problem. can you give your user read permission on the files you want to copy?
[18:10] <mirko2> august1914: and read/execute permission for the directories
[18:11] <escott> Igramul, there are often intermittent issues with particular servers. give it 24hrs and if its still a problem you could try a different mirror
[18:11] <august1914> mirko2: checking...
[18:11] <Igramul> escott, ok - thanks.
[18:12] <upset> Things keep telling me they have dependencies that WON'T be installed. Why is my terminal being so obstinate?
[18:13] <dougl> escott, thanks - I have a functioning xfce desktop now, you gonna be around later...
[18:13] <dougl> will be back later to tweak my xfce interface and sing praises for escott  - thanks all :)
[18:14] <escott> dougl, i didnt do much, just pointed you where to look.
[18:14] <dougl> :)
[18:15] <mirko2> upset: it isn't the terminal but the package manager, pastebin the command you use and the full output
[18:15] <upset> Oh my God, I went through a chain of dependencies, finally found one that would install, and it's removing a ton of other stuff
[18:15] <Guest94472> hi
[18:15] <delinquentme> so what happens when a /dev/ttyACM0  dissappears and turns into /dev/ttyACM1
[18:15] <august1914> mirko2: yes, the problem is user's rights on scp target.
[18:15] <delinquentme> i've been using the ACM0 .. and I'd love to get that back as the default *THING* that my computer is writing to my arduino with
[18:15] <delinquentme> suggestions?
[18:16] <Andsim> any suggestion?
[18:16] <upset> Screw this, I'm doing a clean install in a week anyway.
[18:17] <xian__> anyone here?
[18:18] <ms-daisy> lots of folks.  Ask your question.
[18:18] <xian__> hello?
[18:18] <mirko2> august1914: so is it solved then?
[18:18] <ms-daisy> that's your question?
[18:18] <xian__> made some changes to fstab and left some junk by mistake at end of file
[18:19] <mirko2> delinquentme: i fear you have to write custom udev rule
[18:19] <xian__> now computer does not boot
[18:19] <jovin> boot from livecd
[18:19] <xian__> won't let be copy a backup of fstab as file system is in Read Only
[18:19] <robde_> hello, somehow the <<END … END syntax does not work in shell scripts :/
[18:19] <xian__> When I boot from live cd the one on the hard disk takes over
[18:19] <thys> how do I see how much space i have left on hdd in ubuntu classic?
[18:20] <robde_> only if I put it like that: my_result=`mycommand<<END … END`
[18:20] <mirko2> robde_: pastebin your script
[18:20] <xian__> can't get live cd to prevail when you point to it from boot menu with bios?
[18:20] <august1914> mirko2: not yet - need to grant rights to directory to user, still researching to make sure I understand what I'm doing
[18:21] <Mkman> on the ubuntu 12.04 it recognize my monitor as a laptop and it cuts a bit of my screen, how do i fix that?
[18:21] <bazhang> 12.04 in #ubuntu+1 Mkman
[18:21] <mirko2> august1914: hint: group rights ;-)
[18:22] <escott> robde_, you mean it doesn't work if you have it in one line? thats normal
[18:23] <robde_> escott: it’s multiple lines
[18:23] <mirko2> robde_:  from man bash: Here Documents - This type of redirection instructs the shell to read input from the current source until a line containing only delimiter (with no trailing blanks) is seen.
[18:23] <escott> robde_, paste exactly what you have in the script
[18:24] <escott> robde_, but i would suspect that having that inside a ` ` would not work
[18:24] <Chr|s> If I have ubuntu and want to change distro also im dual booting with win7, will I be able to just delete ubuntu installation and reinstall ?
[18:24] <robde_> it does :/
[18:24] <escott> robde_, i think you want to use $( command << EOF\n inputs\n EOF\n )
[18:25] <Chr|s> hmm
[18:25] <august1914> mirko2: I'm in, thanks!
[18:25] <NullN> Does ubuntu have a educational childrens distro anymore? I thought they did but I cant remember the name
[18:25] <xian__>  can't get live cd to prevail when you point to it from boot menu with bios?
[18:26] <Chr|s> !edubuntu
[18:26] <bazhang> NullN, edubuntu?
[18:26] <NullN> thats it! thanks
[18:26] <bazhang> !info edubuntu-desktop
[18:26] <bazhang> NullN, ^
[18:27] <zarax> here's a surprise for you folks, i'm looking for some help with oneiric on a netbook
[18:28] <hollywords> im running mint 12 on a netbook just fine`
[18:28] <pangolin> zarax, exactly what help?
[18:29] <zarax> truth be told, i'm having issues with my soundcard
[18:29] <pangolin> hollywords, how is running mint relevant to this channel?
[18:29] <hollywords> no
[18:29] <zarax> on an acer aspire one zg5
[18:29] <DrMax> I'm running ubuntu on an overclocked i7 2600K but it reports only cpufreq upto 3.4GHz ... how do I get the turbo-mode clock rates displayed?
[18:29] <delinquentme> quick way to kill any arduino process on ubuntu?
[18:30] <zarax> oops
[18:30] <zarax> one sec
[18:30] <DrMax> delinquentme : killall -9 <nameoftheprocess>
[18:30] <hollywords> its just a name. the operating system itself is quite similar.
[18:30] <hollywords> in fact. its the same.
[18:30] <hollywords> mint, ubuntu, et al.
[18:30] <pangolin> hollywords, in fact it isn't. Also why it is not supported here
[18:30] <pangolin> and off topic
[18:30] <hollywords> how is that? whi is it of topic and not similar if not the same?
[18:31] <mirko2> DrMax: DON't use -9 unless you have no other chance! killall ardunio (or however the process is named) is usually enough.
[18:31] <oCean> !derivatives | hollywords
[18:31] <DrMax> mirko2 : you're right
[18:31] <wylde> !mint | hollywords
[18:32] <hollywords> Im not looking for support, I was just commenting on someone.
[18:32] <hollywords> thanks
[18:32] <pangolin> and your comment was off topic
[18:32] <hollywords> stuf you
[18:33] <pangolin> zarax, Please ask your questions in the channel so that others can offer help. I probably can't help with your sound issue
[18:33] <pangolingo> BUUUUUUUUUURP
[18:33] <pangolingo> quit
[18:34] <zarax> so, my soundcard is simply not being detected by alsa
[18:34] <Guest94472> hi
[18:34] <escott> zarax, what kind of soundcard is it
[18:35] <zarax> mmm
[18:35] <zarax> i forget
[18:35] <zarax> hold on
[18:35] <zarax> Realtek Audio v.<IP_ADDRESS>72
[18:35] <airlynx> I'm having a serious problem on a fresh install of 12.04, everytime I plug in my USB mouse gnome quits and goes to a black terminal screen
[18:36] <pangolin> airlynx, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 help
[18:36] <airlynx> pangolin, thanks
[18:36] <escott> zarax, is that intel HDA? sudo lshw -C sound
[18:37] <Boreeas> Is it possible to upload an iso for 11.10 to a remote server and use it to reinstall the OS that is currently running?
[18:37] <zarax> should be
[18:37] <Chloop> I have a problem with fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 when switching users. after switching between users the window manager menus are unreadable (graphical glitches). I have tried this with the default Unity, Gnome 3, and Cinnamon, all behave the same. my graphics card is a nVidia 7900 GT and I have the latest stable nVidia driver installed
[18:37] <Hans_Zer0> hi I want to connect to a sftp server with the "files" application using a rsa keyfile ... is this possible or is it only possible using a password (it works without a problem on another server with a password but for this server I can only use a keyfile) (I got filezilla and it works I'ld just find it handy to have it as a bookmark in the file manager)
[18:37] <zarax> one second
[18:38] <zarax> N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
[18:38] <zarax> "*-multimedia UNCLAIMED"
[18:38] <escott> zarax, are the intel hda drivers loaded? lsmod | grep hda
[18:40] <zarax> it's not responding
[18:40] <zarax> lsmod shows no such value
[18:41] <Hans_Zer0> anyone any idea if I could get this to work?
[18:41] <mirko2> Boreeas: perhaps you want  a custom apt repository? something like http://www.hiddentao.com/archives/2011/06/27/setting-up-a-simple-ubuntu-apt-repository/
[18:41] <escott> Hans_Zer0, not sure what the "files" application is, but sftp uses ssh auth_keys
[18:42] <Hans_Zer0> so I can just put my rsa key file ... somewhere... and then ubuntu magically does the rest?
[18:42] <Boreeas> mirko2: No, that isn't really what I'm looking for. Backstory: I'm trying to upgrade a remote vserver, the only option being ssh. do-dist-upgrade broke a bunch of dependencies and I can't seem go go back or forth.
[18:43] <Hans_Zer0> "files" is the standard file manager for ubuntu I dunno what it actually is but it is named "files" in the dash (or whatever that thing is called)
[18:43] <escott> Hans_Zer0, in your $HOME on the server you put the public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (and set the correct permissions on that file) and then it should "just work"
[18:43] <Hans_Zer0> the server part works fine !
[18:43] <shnatsel> Hans_Zer0: it's called Nautilus
[18:43] <Hans_Zer0> I'm just talking about the client part
[18:43] <Boreeas> So I was planning on uploading an iso to the server and then reinstalling, but I'm afraid that at some point it will overwrite stuff that is needed for keeping the iso mounted
[18:43] <Hans_Zer0> ok can nautilus use a rsa keyfile to establish a ssh/sftp connection ?
[18:44] <zarax> it seems i don't have hda
[18:44] <bekks> zarax: BEcause you should have sda
[18:44] <escott> bekks, ? he is talking about hda audio not sda drives
[18:44] <trism> Hans_Zer0: it works here, but I have my servers set up in ~/.ssh/config (so I give the Host name in File/Connect to Server...)
[18:45] <bekks> escott: ah k :)
[18:45] <zarax> i actually beleive it more likely to be sda, seeing as i'm talking about an old netbook
[18:45] <trism> Hans_Zer0: I don't know if it will work otherwise (it may)
[18:45] <Hans_Zer0> so I put my ssh config stuff with the keyfile in there and then it can connect ?
[18:45] <escott> zarax, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:46] <trism> Hans_Zer0: yes
[18:46] <Hans_Zer0> that's the answer I needed I can start from there thank you
[18:46] <Hans_Zer0> :D
[18:46] <zarax> i believe i have, but i'll take another look at it
[18:47] <escott> zarax, you could just try sudo modprobe. or sudo modprobe -l "snd_hda_*"
[18:48] <zarax> escott: was it supposed to return anything?
[18:48] <escott> zarax, the second one should. the first should not, but it might intelligently insert the modules for the devicer
[18:48] <zarax> -l or -i?
[18:48] <escott> zarax, l as in lima
[18:49] <zarax> Thanks
[18:49] <zarax> nope. no reply
[18:49] <burhan> why is it that the trackpad works correctly under KDE and not under gnome :/
[18:49] <mirko2> Boreeas: can't help with vservers, but you might want to look at http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[18:49] <escott> burhan, likely different settings for syndaemon. is it the same user?
[18:50] <burhan> yes.
[18:50] <burhan> in fact, there is only one user on the system.
[18:50] <burhan> and ONLY under gnome (well, unity) does the trackpad act strange.
[18:50] <burhan> xfce and kde are fine.
[18:53] <zarax> escott any clue as to other possibe solutions? i'm practically on a fresh install of ubuntu (directly from windows xp)
[18:53] <escott> burhan, i would compare the output of synclient under kde and gnome
[18:53] <burhan> escott: hmm, I'll give it a shot.
[18:55] <Boreeas> mirko2: Ah, thanks
[18:55] <escott> zarax, i would try "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel" but its also likely you will need "sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek" or some variant. you might try "sudo modprobe snd_hda_*" and see if it picks up the right modules.
[18:56] <zarax> escott, the first command returned only a warning: "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release."
[18:57] <zarax> same for the scond command
[18:57] <escott> zarax, what version of ubuntu is this?
[18:58] <Zaitzev> someone should uninvent flash. any takers?
[18:58] <zarax_> (pfft, i need to learn how to use irssi before i start fooling around with commands)
[18:59] <jerli> hi there...
[18:59] <zarax_> escott, the third command returned the same warning and it couldn't anything else
[18:59] <Chloop> ok, I am now trying to clean install my nVidia driver. booted into recovery, dropped into root shell.. when trying 'apt-get remove' I get error: unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[19:00] <escott> Chloop, its probably not mounting / as read-write
[19:01] <Chloop> escott: I need to choose a different option in the recovery menu?
[19:01] <mirko2> zarax_: notice that modprobe doesn't ouput anything if it runned successfull, and since you only got a warning, not an error, see if alsa now sees your soundcard (remember to unmute it)
[19:01] <escott> Chloop, do you have a livecd
[19:01] <Chloop> I haven't booted into recovery in years..
[19:01] <Chloop> escott: no, Ubuntu is installed on HD
[19:02] <escott> Chloop, you can try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[19:02] <zarax> (pfft, no more windows shortcuts for me)
[19:05] <Chloop> I'm at the recovery menu again. which should I choose to get to the shell without loading X?
[19:06] <zarax> escott, Did I miss any more advice on your part after the 3 commands?
[19:06] <wifioregon> Hi, my frriend  has a netbook and no usb flash drives but wants Ubuntu..is there any way he could do a network install...?
[19:06] <wifioregon> or any way around installing without a USB?
[19:06] <wifioregon> he wants to get rid of windows and put on edubuntu for his son
[19:06] <theadmin> Chloop: "root shell" or something like that is there, methinks it's the last option
[19:06] <escott> zarax, if you ran the modprobe commands see what is listed in lsmod and check lshw again to see if the device is claimed
[19:07] <Chloop> theadmin: tried that before but it mounts filesystem as read-only?
[19:07] <Artemis3> wifioregon, you must at least obtain an usb stick or cdrom drive; unless you set up a PXE server and the machine can boot from lan
[19:07] <theadmin> wifioregon: There is one way, but it's freaky -- you can mount the physical drive via Virtualbox (preparing an empty partition for Ubuntu beforehand) and install that way, then boot it from real hardware and remove Windows...
[19:07] <theadmin> Chloop: Is that a problem whatsoever? mount -o remount,rw /
[19:08] <mirko2> wifioregon: or use the method I just posted some minutes ago: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html ;-)
[19:08] <zarax> escott, i have snd_hda of the sorts listed in lsmod
[19:08] <AngrySpam> Hello, when i start ubuntu 11.10 (from startup) i get the grub thing, no matter what its automatically there.  How do i just boot up to desktop from there?
[19:09] <zarax> escott, i'm being warned by lshw to run as super user
[19:10] <escott> zarax, so run with sudo
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> AngrySpam  you could set the timeout to 0
[19:10] <AngrySpam> how!
[19:10] <zarax> wait, should i specify which lshw?
[19:10] <AngrySpam> i dont even know what that is -.-
[19:10] <jaha> Hey all having troubles setting up a x11vnc reverse tunnel through a gateway server, assuming I have the tunnel setup properly from my client to the gateway (forwarding port 5900 to localhost), what is the command for the x11vnc server machine to properly connect it to the gateway?
[19:10] <escott> zarax, sudo lshw -C sound
[19:11] <zarax> thanks
[19:11] <jaha> oh, and can I use a stored ssh config hostname?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> AngrySpam  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:11] <zarax> hold up, the sound settings show an internal soundcard
[19:12] <zarax> escott: and lshw does not say it's claimed
[19:12] <mirko2> AngrySpam: open a terminal and run the command "gksudo gedit /etc/defaults/grub" (without the quotes), find the "GRUB_TIMEOUT" line and set the number to 2 (don't set it to zero, you might want to enter the recovery mode). save and exit then run the command "sudo update-grub" (again without the quotes)
[19:12] <AngrySpam> not found, MonkeyDust
[19:12] <Ankman> may be /etc/default/grub
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> AngrySpam  just click the link, it's there
[19:12] <Ankman> no "s"
[19:12] <mirko2> AngrySpam:  sorry, typo, should be "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[19:13] <hwilde> why are the colors all jacked up in my videos ??
[19:13] <AngrySpam> i dont have trminal
[19:14] <AngrySpam> i strt uubuntu and there is a black screen prompting me with grub>
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> AngrySpam  ctrl-alt t to open the terminal
[19:14] <AngrySpam> omfg
[19:14] <escott> AngrySpam, its best to boot a livecd and work from a chroot for these things
[19:14] <AngrySpam> i cant open fucking terminal if i dont have desktop up
[19:14] <mirko2> AngrySpam: if you can't boot into Ubuntu and only see "grub>" then your installation is broken
[19:14] <wylde> !language | AngrySpam
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> !language
[19:14] <hwilde> why are the colors all jacked up in my videos ??
[19:14] <bazhang> AngrySpam, no cursing, calm down
[19:14] <hwilde> the colors used to be fine
[19:14] <zarax> escott: it seems to work
[19:15] <hwilde> some recent update has broken the colors in the videos
[19:15] <bazhang> hwilde, blue faces in flash?
[19:15] <zarax> at least when i test the speakers in the sound thingamadoodle
[19:15] <mirko2> AngrySpam: what have you done just recently or where you never able to boot ubuntu?
[19:15] <AngrySpam> 0_0 maybe if i could get an answer
[19:15] <hwilde> bazhang, various issues with colors being wrong
[19:15] <bazhang> AngrySpam, not the way it works.
[19:15] <escott> zarax, not sure why your sound drivers are not being loaded. perhaps the hardware is coming up late? but you could add the modules to /etc/modules
[19:15] <bazhang> hwilde, for blue faces in flash, full screen then disable hw acceleration
[19:16] <hwilde> bazhang, it used to be fine now it's broken what broke it
[19:16] <hwilde> I don't want a work around
[19:16] <hwilde> put it back the way it was before
[19:16] <bazhang> hwilde, flash issue
[19:16] <hwilde> UNDO
[19:16]  * hwilde holds down ctrl+z
[19:16] <jaha> lol
[19:16] <bazhang> hwilde, thats the fix.
[19:16] <AngrySpam> so can i have help other than saying "open terminal" seeming how I CANT OPEN TERMINAL
[19:16] <hwilde> dude it used to work
[19:16] <jaha> i need a ctrl+z in life
[19:16] <hwilde> it's a bug
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> hwilde  http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/324-how-to-fix-the-blue-tint-on-youtube-videos-problem-flash-and-nvidia
[19:17] <bazhang> !bug > hwilde
[19:17] <hwilde> everytime nvidia starts working it gets messed up man
[19:17] <escott> AngrySpam, do you have an install cd/dvd you can boot
[19:18] <zarax> escott: it works
[19:18] <Qazjap11> can anybody with an ecrypfs encrypted home folder tell me what is the size of ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase? Thanks :)
[19:19] <escott> Qazjap11, probably on the order of 4000bits
[19:19] <zarax> escott: thank you very much!
[19:20] <Qazjap11> escott, do you mean exactly 4000 bits?
[19:20] <Qazjap11> or it depends on password length?
[19:20] <zarax> of course, now flash crashes everytime i open the youtube video i'm looking for
[19:20] <escott> Qazjap11, no. im just guessing. its likely to be reported as the min file size on your system which is probably 4kb.
[19:21] <dlentz> escott, that's 4096 bytes
[19:22] <jaha> anyone know why i cant send to the #linux channel?
[19:23] <shysoft> If I intall the beta of ubuntu 12, how difficult would it be to upgrade to the release? Will I have to reinstall?
[19:23] <bazhang> jaha, ask in #freenode
[19:23] <dlentz> !final | shysoft
[19:23] <bazhang> !infal | shysoft
[19:23] <bazhang> augh
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> :
[19:23] <wylde> jaha: have you registered and identified with your nick? /msg nickserv help
[19:25] <Qazjap11> escott, thanks
[19:26] <shysoft> when does precise come out?
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> shysoft  next week thursday
[19:27] <lucas-arg> need help with kworld ub405-a usb tv stick... cant get it working...!!
[19:27] <Gnea> lucas-arg: try plugging it in
[19:27] <lucas-arg> Gnea: ur funny
[19:28] <Gnea> !tv | lucas-arg
[19:29] <root> kjh
[19:33] <physically_fit> who here uses twitter? recommend me a good twitter client, besides Gwibber. i need a good interface for Direct Messages. thanks.
[19:34] <theadmin> physically_fit: If you're a fan of IRC, try bitlbee.
[19:35] <slikts_> can running in vmware screw with ntp time?
[19:35] <ikonia> slikts_: very much so
[19:35] <slikts_> I've installed ntpd, but I've found the being incorrect several times now, and when I check ntp is not running
[19:35] <slikts_> *found the time being
[19:35] <physically_fit> theadmin, thanks, but it sounds complicated.
[19:35] <slikts_> like completely incorrect, 12h difference
[19:36] <theadmin> physically_fit: Not really, you can just connect to a public server (I use testing.bitlbee.org myself)
[19:36] <slikts_> ntpdate fixes it, but I'd like it to stay correct
[19:36] <slikts_> physically_fit: I like twitter.com as a twitter client
[19:36] <ikonia> slikts_: it's a common bug
[19:37] <slikts_> I'll google then
[19:37] <Cloud__> hey all
[19:37] <physically_fit> slikts, but when you use DM, direct messages, the window is so small. i don't like it.
[19:37] <theadmin> physically_fit: There's this hootsuite thing
[19:38] <physically_fit> theadmin, thanks again. will ckeck it out.
[19:38] <slikts_> ikonia: thanks, googling helped, turns out I can tweak settings of vmware to fix this
[19:39] <ikonia> slikts_: be aware the vmware tools that can be used to rectify this can also cause problems
[19:39] <slikts_> hmm
[19:39] <slikts_> maybe I should just set ntpdate in crontab
[19:39] <slikts_> precise time isn't that important in this virtual machine
[19:40] <slikts_> I only use it for work >>
[19:40] <ikonia> slikts_: I wouldn't recommend that, there are example configs for ntpd on the web oh how to do it and what vmware config you need
[19:40] <slikts_> hmm okay
[19:40] <ikonia> slikts_: the problem is fixed in ESX, are you using ESX or the home player thing ?
[19:40] <slikts_> I have vmware workstation
[19:40] <ikonia> slikts_: yeah, you'll have a lot of problems with time on it
[19:40] <slikts_> boo
[19:41] <slikts_> also with clipboards
[19:41] <ikonia> slikts_: vmware enterprise tools are solid, the home stuff is sloppy
[19:41] <slikts_> unbelievably the clipboard sharing is broken
[19:41] <ikonia> slikts_: not a surprise
[19:41] <slikts_> in a better world it should be a surprise for $200 software and a very common OS
[19:42] <ikonia> slikts_: annoying as it sounds it's not actually a vmware problem (as I recall) it's how certain PC's hardware clocks interface
[19:44] <Chloop> ugh I didn't have so much trouble with 10.04
[19:44] <zykotick9> ikonia: interesting that other virtualization software (kvm) recommend against using ntpd in VMs... seems virtualization and ntpd don't co-operate
[19:44] <ikonia> zykotick9: yes, I did work with Redhat and if you use RHEL 5.4 -> later, you'll have no problems with it. Redhat have put a good patch into their kernel to give solid time
[19:46] <tjf> er, hi. I'm trying to download the 12.04 image with bittorrent and Transmission says "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker"
[19:46] <ikonia> tjf: 12.04 is not released yet
[19:46] <theadmin> tjf: #ubuntu+1 for precise
[19:46] <grit> hello, i have an fujitsu A1650G an activate the b43 wireless driver, so now i can't anymore activate my wireless network, what can i do for activate?
[19:46]  * zykotick9 doesn't think 12.04 is available as a torrent from ubuntu/canonical
[19:47] <theadmin> zykotick9: wget -q -O - http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ | grep -F '.torrent'
[19:48] <theadmin> zykotick9: Basically speaking, there are torrents.
[19:48] <zykotick9> theadmin: my bad.  I downloaded the daily last night, didn't see a torrent there.
[19:50] <grit> can anyone help me please, i only would use my wireless connection :(
[19:52] <Diamondcite> grit: Wireless as in Wi-Fi? How is it not working?
[19:54] <grit> Diamondcite, yes it is wi-fi ... i have install ubuntu and try to connect with wifi to my router but i became no connection. so after that i activate the b43 driver and now i can not activate the wireless connection over the symbol in the tray (sorry for y bad nglish ...)
[19:55] <Diamondcite> Ah a broadcom card, b43 and STA are two different drivers.. but it seems you have already figured it out..
[19:55] <xmarco69> ciao
[19:56] <xmarco69> !list
[19:56] <ryzzan> algum brasileiro?
[19:56] <ryzzan> !list
[19:56] <bs> how to find out my download speed
[19:56] <bs> ubuntu 11.10
[19:56] <grit> i not realy figured out something, this was the only driver that have ubuntu show in the preferences.
[19:56] <zozy> bs: speedtest.net ;)
[19:57] <KM0201> bs: there's tons of online speed testers, check speedtest.net
[19:57] <bs> zozy, i mean life while i'm downloading file how can i find out my speed?
[19:57] <grit> if i type iwconfig in the terminal my card will display
[19:57] <grit> but i can't activate
[19:58] <Diamondcite> grit: Did you try to restart after activating the driver? If you did restart, what did nm-tool'
[19:58] <Diamondcite> err 'nm-tool' say for available networks
[19:58] <bs> while i'm downloading file how can i find out my speed?
[19:58] <zozy> bs: usually it shows up in the browser
[19:59] <zozy> whyile youre downloading
[19:59] <Gnea> bs: what browser do you use?
[19:59] <KM0201> bs: what browser are you using?
[19:59] <Diamondcite> Firefox should have a download window which shows current speed
[19:59] <KM0201> Chrome/Chromium, shows it on a tab... i believe Opera does as well.
[19:59] <bs> i'm downloading updating so i want to find out the download speed
[20:00] <Gnea> bs: then answer the question so we can help you find out the speed, please
[20:00] <Diamondcite> bs: There are also other apps which monitor transfer speeds.. like 'bwm-ng'(command line tool) or gkrellm(old gtk tool)
[20:00] <KM0201> bs: if you're updating w/ update manager, .. click details on the update manager, and it should show the speed things are being downloaded as different servers are accessed
[20:01] <Chloop> okay, progress, I finally got two user sessions to look alright when choosing Unity 2D as desktop.
[20:01] <grit> Diamondcite, yes i have restart. nm-tool says http://pastebin.com/yjdK1nDs
[20:01] <zozy> KM0201: doesnt it only shows the xkb of y kb thingy?
[20:01] <KM0201> zozy: i thougth next to it it showed the actual speed as well.
[20:01] <bs> Diamondcite, how to download that bwm thing
[20:02] <zozy> dunno, but i'll check at the next update KM0201
[20:02] <zozy> :D
[20:02] <Diamondcite> grit: Does your device have a hardware wifi kill switch? Or maybe you cna try activating the STA driver instead of b43
[20:02] <KM0201> zozy: updating now.. i'll check.. :)
[20:02] <The-_-Pro> what does it mean when wireless is unclaimed?
[20:02] <KM0201> bs: nope, you're right.. it doesn't show the speed
[20:02] <Diamondcite> bs: bwm-ng is an app, so you should be able to find it in software center or 'apt-get install bwm-ng'
[20:03] <Chloop> so kinda back to square one. is there something I can do to improve switching between two user sessions? I get extreme graphical glitches.
[20:03] <KM0201> sorry  zozy you're right, it doesn't show the speed
[20:03] <KM0201> i thought it did.
[20:03] <KM0201> i think if you update via command line, it does.
[20:03] <Diamondcite> grit: I am away from the keyboard, eating.
[20:04] <zozy> KM0201: maybe theres a room for improvement (although i dont see any justification for that feature)
[20:04] <Chloop> I am eating on the keyboard :D but its just salad
[20:04] <zozy> KM0201: yup, apt show its speed
[20:04] <KM0201> zozy: me either.. most likely if there's a bottleneck when downloading updates, it's on the server end, rather than the client.
[20:04] <KM0201> zozy: so there's the answer... "sudo apt-get upgrade".. ;)
[20:05] <grit> Diamondcite, yes i have that kill switch, i think yu mean the button to activate the wifi card on my laptop but it's on, my windows have the connection to the router over wlan. ok, i will wait :)
[20:05] <zozy> KM0201: yeahh, i hope bs is reading it too :D
[20:05] <KM0201> zozy: i doubt it..lol
[20:06] <grit> how and where can i activate the sta driver??
[20:06] <dougl> I installed ubunbtu 11.10 then ccsm and enabled some effects which broke my desktop then installed xubuntu and am booted to that but ccsm effects do not work (desktop cube and wobbly windows) any suggestions?
[20:06] <mirko2> zozy, KM0201: not everybody in the world has a multi-MBit/s DSL flatrate. some have only GPRS/EDGE and even some others have a time or transfer limit. showing the speed, time and amount *is* very important to some people.
[20:07] <KM0201> grit:  search unity for "Additional Drivers"
[20:07] <KM0201> mirko2: if its that important, then use the command line.
[20:08] <mirko2> KM0201: I do (even with a fast, unlimted connection), but isn't Ubuntu aimed at newcomers ;-)=
[20:08] <KM0201> dougl: you mean ccsm doesn't work on xubuntu?
[20:08] <KM0201> or it just still doesn't work on ubuntu
[20:09] <grit> i use ubuntu 10.04 KM0201
[20:09] <KM0201> mirko2: ubuntu isn't designed to be all things for all people... so the fact it's "for newcomers" means nothing
[20:09] <KM0201> grit: system/admin/additional drivers
[20:09] <KM0201> grit: if it's a really new broadcom, there may not be support in the 10.04 kernel for it yet.
[20:10] <dougl> KM0201, the compiz effects dont work on xubuntu... ccsm works to enable and disable them - but effects do not work regardless of enable/disable them
[20:10] <grit> its an old laptop A1650G Fujitsu
[20:10] <grit> so i think that must work :/
[20:11] <zozy> mirko2: it shows x% of...i think that is enough for dispolaying information
[20:11] <dekela> for some reason my default desktop is unity-2d, I am running the nvidia driver how, can I switch to 3d?
[20:11] <KM0201> dougl: i'm not sure how to enable compiz on xubuntu... xubuntu (by design) is for pc's that have a little less horsepower, so it makes sense that enabling desktop effects, etc.. would require some hooop jumping
[20:11] <grit> and under additional driver for me is only the b43 avaible, no sta driver
[20:11] <KM0201> grit: which broadcom do you have?
[20:12] <grit> how can i see that?
[20:12] <KM0201> ..
[20:12] <KM0201> grit: open a terminal and type   lspci  and hit enter, find your wireless device in the output
[20:12] <dougl> KM0201, very good then - I had the misunderstanding compiz worked with xfce that is why I installed it.
[20:12] <mirko2> KM0201: all I'm saying is that info like speed and time to completion is very important and almost standard info, just the gnome/ubuntu oversimplification kicks in again. anyway, not a gnome/ubuntu design forum. :-)
[20:12] <dougl> KM0201, google is my friend - lol
[20:12] <ELQEYNN> in using ubuntu. does one have to use gnome?
[20:13] <dougl> ELQEYNN, no
[20:13] <Gnea> ELQEYNN: no
[20:13] <KM0201> dougl: i'm not saying it "doesn't work"... i'm just saying i have no idea how to do it... to me it would go against the goals of xubuntu, which is to work on PC's with limited resources (even though I think xubuntu lost its way a couple years ago, thats irrelevant)
[20:13] <ELQEYNN> One can just as easily use kde? or icewm?
[20:13] <mirko2> xubuntu and compiz work fine together. all you need to do is to replace xfwm4 with compiz.
[20:13] <grit> KM0201, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[20:13] <KM0201> mirko2: i didn't say it "couldn't" be important, of course it could be.. but i'd say to a majority of people, it's not
[20:13] <dougl> !kubuntu | ELQEYNN
[20:13] <Gnea> ELQEYNN: yes
[20:14] <dougl> !xubuntu | ELQEYNN
[20:14] <dekela> how to login into a unity-3d session? for some reason I am on Unity-2d
[20:14] <KM0201> grit: the 4318 takes the b43 driver...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:14] <Gnea> ELQEYNN: you can just do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  then choose at login
[20:15] <ercan> selam
[20:15] <dougl> KM0201, lol on irrelevance... xfce+compiz thot it was too good to be true.
[20:15] <ELQEYNN> I have never herad of compiz.
[20:16] <mirko2> dougl: again, Xfce and Compiz work fine together. what problem do you have (sorry didn't read your previous posts)
[20:16] <ELQEYNN> KM201 has both xdce and compiz?
[20:16] <KM0201> dougl: sad but true.. i used to really like xfce.. now, no way.  thankfully lxde has become really really good, and I love it.. and use it even on my fast PC's
[20:16] <grit> ok KM0201, the driver is activat, but i can not activate the card over the symbol in the tray, it is diabled http://i44.tinypic.com/riz1op.png
[20:17] <KM0201> grit: did you activate the driver?
[20:17] <dipper> hey
[20:17] <dipper> hope some can help
[20:18] <dipper> I built my own kernel
[20:18] <dipper> 3.0.22
[20:18] <dipper> but my system is installed using WUBI
[20:18] <KM0201> you need to check your kernel, it's making you hit enter constantly
[20:18] <dipper> yeah
[20:18] <dipper> :)
[20:18] <dipper> sorry
[20:18] <KM0201> lmao.. you built your own kernel, then used wubi?
[20:18] <dougl> KM0201, googling lxde
[20:18] <dipper> my system is installed using WUBI
[20:18] <KM0201> that might be the funniest thing i've ever read here.
[20:19] <bekks> KM0201: Thats a good one :D
[20:19] <grit> yes, of course KM0201 http://i42.tinypic.com/23moun7.png
[20:19] <Gnea> KM0201: uhm, I use wubi and I compiled my own kernel on it. what's so funny?
[20:19] <dipper> so the problem is that my own kernel is stuck in initramfs
[20:19] <dipper> I can still boot using others
[20:19] <Gnea> dipper: did you generate an initrd.img?
[20:19] <KM0201> Gnea: just strikes me as totally ridiculous.
[20:19] <dipper> what's the different
[20:19] <dipper> yeah
[20:19] <dipper> I did
[20:19] <FloodBot1> dipper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <Gnea> KM0201: your attitude it what's rediculous. help or get out.
[20:20] <KM0201> Gnea: get bent,.. i've been helping.. if you don't like it leave yourself
[20:20] <Gnea> dipper: okay, using make-kpkg? and what version of ubuntu?
[20:20] <Gnea> KM0201: careful now.. just because you've been helping doesn't give you the right to laugh at someone elses problem.
[20:20] <KM0201> grit: try this
[20:20] <KM0201> Gnea: whatever, if you don't like it /IGNORE
[20:20] <Chloop> anyone recommend a modern gui util for comparing binary files? not diff based (for text files)
[20:20] <Gnea> KM0201: no.
[20:20] <bazhang> KM0201, thats enough
[20:20] <grit> what should i try??
[20:20] <bazhang> Gnea, lets move on please
[20:21] <KM0201> grit: did you restart after activating the driver?
[20:21] <dipper> Gnea: i generated my kernel as Ubuntu documentation describes, I got deb packages, REASON says = ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/ not found
[20:21] <grit> yes of course but i will try it again
[20:21] <grit> brb
[20:21] <KM0201> grit: no, thats ok
[20:22] <grit> ok
[20:22] <KM0201> if you already restarted, restarting again isn't gonna do anything
[20:22] <KM0201> grit: open a terminal
[20:22] <grit> ok done
[20:22] <Xtreme> guys which was the command to set default browser, update-default something?
[20:22] <Gnea> dipper: okay, well as of 10.04, the initrd files have to be copied manually and mkinitrd ran on its own after make-kpkg is done and the packages are installed... did you go through these steps in that order?
[20:23] <KM0201> grit: on that link i gave you, scroll down to where it says "step 3".. and shows the two terminal commands for "temporary use with live cd's"... .. put those command sin the terminal one at a time.. and see if it activates your browser
[20:23] <Diamondcite> KM0201: grit: I wonder what 'rfkill list' would show.
[20:23] <dipper> Gnea: I am not sure
[20:23] <KM0201> Diamondcite: i dunno, we'll see in a second
[20:23] <KM0201> i've had problems with the b43 driver working properly when using additional drivers, but.. who knows.
[20:23] <Gnea> dipper: well, what version are you on? lsb_release -r
[20:24] <zykotick9> Xtreme: "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" perhaps?
[20:24] <dipper> Gnea: I am on <IP_ADDRESS> and I built 3.0.22, but I actually wanted to modify the same version
[20:25] <zykotick9> Xtreme: PS there is also "update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser"
[20:25] <bekks> Gnea: Using the "standard" procedure for building an own kernel, you dont have to mess with the initrd/initramfs manually.
[20:25] <Mrokii> Hello. Since a few days ago I have a problem with Flash. Whenever I start a Flash-movie in any browser the plugin either seems to crash after a few seconds or stalls the brwoser(s) for some seconds. It's impossible to watch any Flash movie anymore in Browsers because they all lag every few seconds, if they don't crash.
[20:25] <Gnea> dipper: I'm talking about ubuntu version, not kernel version
[20:25] <KM0201> Mrokii: what browser, and what version of flash?
[20:25] <dipper> bekks: what could be the reason of /dev/disk/by-uuid not found
[20:25] <dipper> Gnea: 11.10
[20:26] <bekks> dipper: Almost everything, a missing controller driver, a missing filesystem driver, etc.
[20:26] <zoellner122> Hello, i am wondering, if i would install 10.04 with its kernel, and update ubuntu can i skip its kernel update or is that required?
[20:26] <Gnea> bekks: it's just better to use initrd, particularly when the system complains about it during bootup.
[20:26] <Gnea> dipper: okay, and which documentation are you using?
[20:26] <bekks> zoellner122: The kernel updates do have a reason too, mostly bug fixes and security updates.
[20:26] <grit> Diamondcite, i have try to activate with sudo rfkill unblock all but that dont work rfkill list say: http://pastebin.com/aCk93xnu
[20:27] <zykotick9> zoellner122: do you mean update to a new version of ubuntu?  or update to 10.04's kernel?
[20:27] <zoellner122> to the newer version of ubuntu
[20:27] <grit> KM0201, i will try
[20:27] <zykotick9> zoellner122: you can't skip the kernel! it's a requirement.
[20:28] <ravi> hello !!
[20:28] <zoellner122> a fresh install of natty does not support my screenlight, and some people say booting in the old kernel helps
[20:28] <dipper> Gnea: let me go back and read about ram disk
[20:28] <dipper> I read "Alternative method"
[20:28] <Gnea> dipper: okay
[20:28] <Gnea> !kernel
[20:28] <ravi> my tochpad stops working several times.
[20:29] <Mrokii> khaard: Opera, Firefox and Chrome. Flash Version is 11.2.202 I think.
[20:29] <Mrokii> oops wrong nick.
[20:29] <irenicus09> Hi...is kubuntu officially supported by ubuntu?
[20:29] <KM0201> Mrokii: try installing flash manually
[20:29] <KM0201> irenicus09: in #kubuntu
[20:29] <irenicus09> k
[20:30] <irenicus09> sry was just curious :p
[20:30] <KM0201> irenicus09: i'm pretty sure it is recognized by canonical
[20:30] <irenicus09> KM0201: k
[20:31] <irenicus09> KM0201: but I read some where that it's no longer officially funded by ubuntu but by some other corp.
[20:31] <zykotick9> irenicus09: the news (a little while ago) was canonical is no longer paying anyone to work on kubuntu - it's community now.
[20:31] <blendedbychris> after installing ntpd how do i force it to update the date?
[20:31] <grit> KM0201, i have type in the terminal sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb and then sudo modprobe b43 but nothing changed
[20:31] <KM0201> irenicus09: ah ok, i wasn't aware of that
[20:31] <Mrokii> KM0201: I'll try, though I think I already did that. Do you know if I have to restart the system or should Flash be detected automatically?
[20:32] <irenicus09> zykotick9: k thnx
[20:32] <KM0201> Mrokii: i would think automatically detected, i've never had a problem with it being auto detected
[20:32] <Mrokii> Okay.
[20:32] <KM0201> Mrokii: how did you try to install it manually?
[20:33] <squid> Today I figured out a problem that is affecting a lot of users out there using ubuntu 11.10
[20:33] <grit> brb
[20:33] <KM0201> grit: i really don't know.. usually i install the b43 driver "manually".. and it works fine.. obviously something is fubar...
[20:34] <KM0201> squid: how to change unity back to gnome 2.x?
[20:34] <Mrokii> KM0201: I think I tried Synaptic, removing and reinstalling it. And then a Firefox-extension named "Flash Aid" that is supposed to install the correct version. Didn't help.
[20:34] <grit> hmm, ok thank you for now, i think i have to try by myself
[20:34] <squid> it seems as if when you try to configure an IP address static....the /etc/resolv.conf file gets overriden by the network-manager
[20:34] <KM0201> Mrokii: thats not really installing manually
[20:34] <Mrokii> KM0201: So what exactly do you mean?
[20:34] <squid> the solution is to use nameserver in front of the dns server addresses....
[20:34] <KM0201> Mrokii: what version of ubuntu are you using again?
[20:35] <Mrokii> KM0201: 11.10 x64
[20:35] <irenicus09> squid: use "lschatt +i /etc/resolv.conf" to make it immutable and it wont get overwritten
[20:35] <zykotick9> Mrokii: i'm not really following - but if you have more then one version of flash installed from the repos, it can cause issues.
[20:35] <squid> the command to fix it is like this.... echo 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[20:35] <KM0201> Mrokii: go to http://www.adobe.com  then click downloads then "get flash player"
[20:35] <irenicus09> squid: "lschattr*"
[20:36] <Mrokii> zykotick9: I think that is what Flash Aid was supposed to repair, removing conflicting versions.
[20:36] <KM0201> Mrokii: once on that page,  where it says "Select version to Download"... choose ".tar.gz for linux"
[20:36] <squid> irenicus09: i tried that and it didn't work....i actually google extensibly and that was one of the first things i tried.
[20:37] <escott> irenicus09, will chattr prevent uid 0 from doin whateverit wants
[20:37] <zykotick9> Mrokii: flashaid is firefox limited probably, i'm talking about ubuntu's repository stuff - flash flash-nonfree gnash (all that sorta stuff)
[20:38] <irenicus09> squid: I got the perfect solution for you- "http://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=26845"
[20:38] <Mrokii> zykotick9: Nope, Flash Aid created a bash script that deinstalled my version and installed another one.
[20:39] <KM0201> Mrokii: if you do what i told you, this will resolve in about 10 seconds
[20:39] <squid> KM0201: here is how you do it...
[20:40] <Mrokii> KM0201: Just download and extracted the archive.
[20:40] <mrsuchyPL> hi
[20:40] <KM0201> Mrokii: right click the "libflashplayer.so" file   and click copy
[20:40] <Ammar_> hello
[20:40] <mrsuchyPL> what kind of problem do u have with libflashplayer ?
[20:40] <KM0201> Mrokii: then go to /home/username/.mozilla  (you might need to click "View/Show hidden files/directories" too see this directory)
[20:41] <squid> KM0201: it's very simple...just watch this short video with the instructions. http://paste.ubuntu.com/940193/
[20:41] <Mrokii> KM0201: Then into "plugins" I asssume?
[20:41] <KM0201> squid: i don't even remember what you rproblem was
[20:41] <KM0201> Mrokii: affirmative
[20:42] <Mrokii> done
[20:42] <Walters> anyone knows any touchscreen driver for ubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:42] <KM0201> Mrokii: now, close any instance of a browser running
[20:42] <squid> KM0201: you said you wanted to change unity to gnome
[20:42] <Random832> hey how do you turn a set of images into a pdf
[20:42] <KM0201> and restart your browser
[20:42] <Ammar_> I have recently installed ubuntu on my laptop. I am using unity2D as it lags less. the problem is that when I click on dash home, it opens up but it is not full screen. is there a way I can make it full screen?
[20:42] <Walters> anyone knows any touchscreen driver for ubuntu 11.10 ? guyssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss help me out
[20:42] <squid> Ammar: are you using a VM?
[20:42] <blnk> I need a little help getting my microphone working. When I first installed, I had nothing. I went into alsamixer and changed the input source to "Internal Mic" and it works, except theres an enormous amount of static. I reinstalled the realtek drivers and I've also tried lowering the capture volume. But I can't get rid of the static. I've already tried googling it and can't seem to find a solution
[20:42] <KM0201> squid: lmao, that was a joke. (cuz you said you figured out how to fix a major problem with 11.10... i know how to install gnome 2.x in 11.10)
[20:43] <squid> KM0201: lol..
[20:43] <Ammar_> no I installed it using the CD
[20:43] <squid> just trying to help some newbies out....
[20:43] <Ammar_> replaced my windows with it
[20:43] <Walters> squid
[20:43] <Walters> hi
[20:43] <ELQEYNN> Have any of you been to Computer renaissance?
[20:43] <squid> hi Walters.
[20:43] <escott> irenicus09, i doubt chattr would work. although resolv.conf will be immutable its more likely that any application will replace resolv.conf with a new copy, and chattr on the file won't prevent a removal/move of the file
[20:44] <Walters> hey dude
[20:44] <Walters> how u doin
[20:44] <squid> alright
[20:44] <trism> Random832: install imagemagick, then: convert image1 image2 ... imagen output.pdf;
[20:44] <KM0201> Ammar_: you nuked windows right out of the gate?  i hope you've got restore cd's
[20:44] <Walters> squid do u know any thing about touchscreen in ubuntu ?
[20:44] <Gnea> Walters: touchscreen drivers come with ubuntu already.
[20:45] <Random832> trism: can i crop at the same time? i don't know the magic rules for imagemagick - and how do i tell it the images are 200dpi?
[20:45] <Ammar_> Yes I did create a restore CD and a full backup
[20:45] <Walters> Gnea , i have a T1005 Gigabyte netbook and touchscreen doesnt work
[20:45] <squid> Walters: nope
[20:45] <mrsuchyPL> omg some many problem in the same time :)
[20:45] <mirko2> escott: a file with immutable set cannot be modified or deleted, not even as root. there may be other reasons (filesystem doesn't support extended attributes or such)
[20:45] <blnk> I need a little help getting my microphone working properly. When I first installed, I had nothing. I went into alsamixer and changed the input source to "Internal Mic" and it works, except theres an enormous amount of static. I reinstalled the realtek drivers and I've also tried lowering the capture volume. But I can't get rid of the static. I've already tried googling it and can't seem to find a solution.
[20:46] <Walters> ok thanks quid
[20:46] <trism> Random832: yes you can do all of that, I never remember the proper switches though, you would have to look it up
[20:46] <Walters> squid * sry
[20:46] <guntbert> !repeat | blnk
[20:46] <OerHeks> Walters, there is an #Ubuntu-touch irc channel here on Freenode.
[20:46] <mrsuchyPL> @blink don't paste the same problem
[20:46] <squid> Walters: touchscreen in ubuntu is like getting rid of the shell altogether...
[20:46] <Gnea> squid: ever use an android device?
[20:46] <guntbert> mrsuchyPL: no @ is needed :-)
[20:47] <Walters> i dont follow :S
[20:47] <Mrokii> KM0201: Nope, didn't help. Flash in FX still stalls the whole browser every few seconds.
[20:47] <squid> Walters: lol...that was my next quest.
[20:47] <mrsuchyPL> sry I dont know this software i mean xchat
[20:47] <escott> mirko2, try it. i absolutely can delete an immutable file. i can't modify it in place, but i can delete it
[20:47] <Gnea> squid: that statement made no sense. android devices run linux, they are fully touchscreen, and they have commandlines. :)
[20:47] <KM0201> Mrokii: dunno, when i had the problem you were having, thats what i done, and it works fine.. is it working in other browsers? (chrome for example?)
[20:48] <Gnea> mrsuchyPL: xchat is the program you are using right now to talk with us.
[20:48] <mrsuchyPL> Mrokii: I delete llibflashplayer.so and I dont have any problem with FF
[20:48] <squid> Gnea: follow the chat from the begg
[20:48] <escott> mirko2, unless i typoed somewhere
[20:49] <squid> Walters: what device do you have?
[20:49] <escott> mirko2, nevermind, must have put a -i when i meant a +i when i was testing
[20:49] <Gnea> squid: 15:45 < Walters> Gnea , i have a T1005 Gigabyte netbook and touchscreen doesnt work
[20:49] <Mrokii> KM0201: Nope, doesn't work in other browsers either. Thanks anyway.
[20:50] <Random832> ...it made all but one page of it super small
[20:50] <Mrokii> mrsuchyPL: It isn't only FX but every browser I have tried, so it must be a system-problem.
[20:50] <Random832> i think it can't figure out what the dpi is of the source image, and -density command line option doesn't work
[20:50] <Gnea> Walters: also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GigabyteT1005
[20:51] <mrsuchyPL> Mrokii if u use flash oly for lookin movie in youtube Yuo cany delete it bcs u can watch movie in html5
[20:51] <mrsuchyPL> do you know that ?
[20:51] <squid> Gnea: what lsbrelease u using?
[20:52] <squid> 11.10?
[20:52] <Gnea> squid: 10.04 on this system, 11.04 on another
[20:52] <Mrokii> mrsuchyPL: I heard about it, but I sometimes need Flash-support for other things.
[20:52] <mrsuchyPL> I see
[20:53] <squid> Gnea: I found this on the Ubuntu Docs http://paste.ubuntu.com/940209/
[20:53] <mrsuchyPL> I heard that libflashplayer.so is stable in chrome webbroswer
[20:53] <Random832> ok, i just loaded it in gimp
[20:53] <Random832> and apparently my stupid scanner saved the metadata as 8.5x11 _centimeters_
[20:54] <Random832> how do i change the metadata dpi of a png without changing anthing else?
[20:55] <squid> mrsuchyPL: I amusing chromium and it works fine with flashplyer
[20:56] <trism> Random832: make sure you have the switches in the correct order, if I were converting a pdf to images: convert test.pdf -density 200 output.jpg; will give me tiny images, but: convert -density 200 test.pdf output.jpg; gives me large ones
[20:57] <trism> Random832: I imagine it would be the same the other way around
[20:57] <mrsuchyPL> squid, maybe I wrong but chromiom and chrome are difrent web browser
[20:57] <squid> chromium is open source...
[20:58] <squid> sorry i thought you were talking bout chromium
[20:58] <squid> go to the software center and install the flash plugin from there it should work
[20:59] <pc> I have a issue. not sure on where to ask. Laptop Dv9810us. Dual op sys. Stripped down xp pro and ubuntu beta. wanted to reinstall both OS's. Deleted the Ubuntu partitions (followed a online page for this as i couldnt find an uninstall option). deleted two partitions from xp disk manager  for ubuntu. Now "error partion not found" "Grub rescue> message>  Cannot change anything in bios menu it...
[20:59] <pc> ...all says disabled no option to boot from disc or usb. what can i do? I do not have an adapter to connect the hard drive like an external harddrive to another pc
[21:00] <bronzdragon> Hey, Im having a problem with LightDM acting up on boot.
[21:00] <bronzdragon> When I boot up, LightDM doesnt start. Running LightDM restart lets me launch gnome.
[21:00] <bronzdragon> Any guesses as to why LightDM fails on boot, but without changing anything, a restart fixes it? Im assuming its reading from some other config when being run by me than when being run on boot? Would that make sense?
[21:00] <OerHeks> pc, repair your MBR with your windows disc
[21:01] <joethetree> hey guys, how can i make an application show up in my software center? i installed it buy copying contents from a tar.gz file to /opt/ but it doesnt seem to be "in the registry" (if you allow my to speak windows language)
[21:01] <mirko2> pc: the boot manager (grub) is still installed. get your windows installation cd, go to a recovery mode and run the command fixmbr
[21:01] <pc> it wont run my windows disc or hirens
[21:01] <pc> no option except for HD
[21:01] <mrsuchyPL> bye
[21:02] <joethetree> or the same question asked differently: what happens when i install an application with ./configure and make install, that adds the application to the ubuntu software center?
[21:02] <Mrokii> squid: I tried installing Flash via Software Center and it didn't help either.
[21:02] <jrib> joethetree: what application is this?  You have to install a .deb for software manager to know about it
[21:02] <pc> if i go to boot options or order all that comes up is notebook hard drive now
[21:03] <bobweaver> joethetree,  no that is compiling
[21:03] <zykotick9> joethetree: things you install from source are not going to be known by apt.  see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for something that creates DEBs from source packages.
[21:03] <joethetree> jrib: its an old version of firefox
[21:03] <jrib> joethetree: why? :/
[21:03] <mirko2> joethetree: if you compile/install from source and the software apears in the software center, then the building actually created a .deb file and installed that
[21:04] <zykotick9> joethetree: mixing firefox versions isn't going to make apt happy - so disregard what i said.
[21:04] <OerHeks> joethetree,  if you make uninstall too, that would be nice
[21:04] <DarkAngel> Does anyone know why my sound would end up being so low...
[21:04] <bobweaver> that is cool as all cool can be with the checkinstall.How does it know about the control file and postinst and what not ?
[21:04] <joethetree> jrib: i just need the old firefox  because i've got a selenium script which only works with that version of firefox. but now it cannot find the browser application because ive just unpacked it and not "installed" properly
[21:05] <jrib> bobweaver: it doesn't; it creates a super stupid package.  You shouldn't use it.  Instead, create a proper package if you're sure you need to (i.e. one doesn't already exist).  /msg ubottu packaging
[21:05] <bobweaver> jrib, thanks I am building a package and wanted to make sure that I was not missing something that is so easy
[21:06] <dlentz> DarkAngel, have you tried adjusting volume in alsamixer
[21:06] <zykotick9> jrib: do to the uninstall - i think checkinstall is a huge improvement over just install directly from source.
[21:06] <joethetree> zykotick9: i am not mixing, just replacing
[21:06] <zykotick9> jrib: s/do/due/
[21:06] <jrib> joethetree: well either point the script to the version of firefox in /opt or link the version of firefox that's sitting in /opt somewhere in your $PATH.  But really, I'd advise against running old versions of web browsers....
[21:06] <joethetree> jrib: i am running this in a sandboxed test environment, the browser is not used for anything else
[21:07] <pc> could i run ubuntu from this working pc take out my gf's hard drive and put mine in then reformat mine from there without losing her hard drive data?
[21:07] <DarkAngel> delntz I forgot how to get into alsmixer.. the voulme was fine last night and now it is so low you can not hear it unless you turn off everything in the room
[21:07] <dlentz> DarkAngel, just go to terminal and enter 'alsamixer'
[21:07] <DarkAngel> oh ok thank you
[21:08] <joethetree> jrib: ok, i think the path was what i was aiming for, cannot adjust the script cause i dont have the source
[21:09] <bs> how do i get notification from yahoo users while my pidgin is closed?
[21:10] <ELQEYNN> pc why not? Do your HDD or hers put anything in teh BIOS?
[21:11] <Lint> back to yesterdays discussion
[21:11] <bazhang> Lint, pardon?
[21:11] <Lint> ubuntu cannot access the files on a shared partition claiming they owned by user 500
[21:12] <mystMan> i installed a few programs how do i run them?  I am new to ubuntu desktop
[21:12] <Lint> other distro can, but it has no user or group called 500
[21:12] <jrib> Lint: what is the path to such a file?
[21:12] <hallofick> =P lol so many nicks xd
[21:12] <Lint> in particular user 1000, the same uid as in ubuntu, can.
[21:13] <hallofick> i use fedora but i like it channel
[21:13] <Lint> /pub/Videos/something.flv
[21:13] <mirko2> Lint: windows or linux partition?
[21:13] <Lint> ext3 partition
[21:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: on the other other distro, from a terminal try this: grep 500 /etc/passwd
[21:13] <jrib> Lint: pastebin the output of: ls -ld /pub /pub/Videos /pub/Videos/something.flv
[21:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: "500" will be the numerical ID, not the user-name
[21:13] <Lint> I checked, the other distro has no such user or group
[21:14] <Lint> what do you want to see there? I could but it will take much time
[21:15] <jrib> !who| Lint
[21:15] <IntuitiveNipple> OK, then some program or script simply did a "chown 500 /path/to/file"
[21:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: the user-id attached to a dentry doesn't have to exist on the system :s
[21:16] <Lint> I don´t know why do you want me to perform destructive activity of my files, while I can access them normally as uid 1000, but not in ubuntu
[21:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: you can likely fix it with "sudo chown $USER /path/to/file"
[21:16] <jrib> Lint: no one asked you to perform anything to your files...
[21:16] <mirko2> mystMan: from the menu? what programs are those?
[21:17] <mystMan> like netbeans
[21:17] <jrib> Lint: can you pastebin the information asked of you?  And can you also answer mirko2's question?
[21:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: "grep 500 /etc/passwd" would search the file /etc/passwd for the text string "500" and show you any lines that contained it
[21:18] <Lint> IntuitiveNipple, I checked specially, there´s no user 500. it show 500 500 on both systems
[21:18] <Lint> but in fedora, I can access them, in ubuntu not
[21:18] <mirko2> Lint: user 500 does not exist on your trouble cause distro, either you create one and match up the user IDs, or better, you use group permissions
[21:18] <raven> witch is better ubuntu alternate or ubuntu desktop
[21:18] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: maybe Fedora uses 500 for some special sharing purpose
[21:19] <Lint> raven, they are the same, only installer is different
[21:19] <raven> no the arent
[21:20] <rodayo> Is there some known performance issue in precise with flash?
[21:20] <jrib> raven: end result should basically be the same
[21:20] <raven> alternate youses les memory
[21:20] <Ahix> rodayo, what's the problem ?
[21:20] <jrib> raven: this isn't true...
[21:20] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: according to a Google search I just did, Fedora uses 500 for NFS shares... you might want to look at it, and do more related searches: http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/96/how-to-change-userid-to-500-from-1000
[21:20] <raven> most text files
[21:20] <jrib> raven: maybe you're thinking of server or minimal?
[21:20] <raven> no no
[21:20] <rodayo> Ahix, since I installed precise yesterday i noticed that this flash game i play started lagging very noticeably
[21:20] <IntuitiveNipple> rodayo: I've not noticed any issues with Flash on Precise amd64
[21:21] <jrib> raven: well the alternate desktop install and the regular desktop install will leave you with basically the same system after install.  What is your question?
[21:21] <IntuitiveNipple> rodayo: Could it be the system isn't using 3D hardware-accelerated video drivers such as nvidia?
[21:21] <Ahix> rodayo, which flash version are you running ?
[21:22] <rodayo> Funny you should IntuitiveNipple, I had to install a 3D accelerated gfx card too...but maybe that installation didn't go as I planned?
[21:22] <IntuitiveNipple> rodayo: worth checking - usually easy to sort out (*touches wood)
[21:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Lint: I also read "New UID and GID ranges" for Fedora 16, seems they used to uses 500 as the mimium user account IDs (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html)
[21:24] <rodayo> IntuitiveNipple, I doubt that might be the problem...I'm looking at the ATI catalyst control center program and highperformance GPU is enabled...
[21:24] <Lint> but my fedora´s account is 1000, it is evident from my home folder permissions, just like in ubuntu
[21:25] <Ahix> rodayo, are the others flash apps running normaly. youtube for example
[21:25] <IntuitiveNipple> rodayo: OK... so maybe look on the web for some Flash performance testing applications, see if you can compare that system's performance with other peoples results to see if its in the right area, or lagging behind generally?
[21:25] <rodayo> Ahix, yep nothing wrong there but I've only been trying everything out since yesterday
[21:25] <bobweaver> I thought that youtube is now pushing something that is not flash at all ?
[21:25] <osse> Are there other processes or shells that a normal user doesn't see that source ~/.profile? When I renamed it, my own launchers wouldn't work because they relied on scripts in ~/bin
[21:25] <rodayo> plus I think the youtube team makes a really effecient flash player
[21:25] <wifioregon> How do I upgrade to 12.04 beta without having to download and put on a disc? I'm using 11.10
[21:26] <MrUnagi> my thumnails seem to all be banners, any way to change them all to poster?