[02:47] <Gunslinger|Deags> it worked fine a week ago
[02:47] <Flannel> Wimpog: you just edit it with any text editor
[02:47] <Tenri1> My laptop gets so hot sometimes that the comforter it sits on smells like it's fresh out of the dryer
[02:47] <Gunslinger|Deags> and i turned it off and turned it on today and nothing
[02:47] <Gunslinger|Deags> it might as well be dead
[02:47] <HymnToLife> Gunslinger|Deags, are you sure the CD didn't get damaged meanwhile ?
[02:47] <Wimpog> Flannel: yeah, but what do I need to write to /etc/fstab???
[02:47] <[set] > maybe you shouldn't put it on top of a comforter
[02:47] <Gunslinger|Deags> yea i just burned the cd 15 min ago
[02:47] <Tenri1> nah, it's cool.
[02:47] <Tenri1> I like it.
[02:47] <Tenri1> specially since it's so freakin' cold here right now.
[02:47] <Flannel> Wimpog: you already have some stuff in there, copy a line from a current hd partition
[02:48] <Wimpog> Flannel: Do I need to restart the PC once I edit the /etc/fstab? Will this repartitioning and moving /usr to a new partition cause some file loss/corruption?
[02:48] <BenFP> juano are you still here??
[02:48] <slew> Tenri1 might burn the lappy in the long run
[02:48] <HymnToLife> Gunslinger|Deags, maybe the burning was bad, those things happen, have you tried the "Check CD" thingie ?
[02:48] <bung> could anyone recommend something lightweight for email, a bit smaller then thunderbird?
[02:48] <Gunslinger|Deags> yea it froze while doing that
[02:48] <Tenri1> slew: yeah, I really need to get a cooler base
[02:48] <juano__> bung: evolution, kmail
[02:48] <bung> thanks
[02:48] <Flannel> Wimpog: the partitioning already caused any file loss you mightve seen, Did you move all the files from yourcurrent /usr to that new drive?
[02:48] <stefg> !sylpheed | bung
[02:48] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-1build1 (edgy), package size 580 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[02:48] <HymnToLife> evolution is not exactly lighter than TB
[02:48] <bung> stefg, thanks
[02:48] <BenFP> Juano i am back :)
[02:48] <juano__> BenFP:
[02:48] <Flannel> Wimpog: you will need to restart once you edit.  In fact, it might be easiest to do all the moving/etc from a liveCD
[02:49] <juano__> BenFP: did you register?
[02:49] <BenFP> ok so i have the gstab open
[02:49] <BenFP> no how do i register my nick?
[02:49] <Gunslinger|Deags> madpilot helped me last time and he made me type something in first i dont remember what
[02:49] <Gunslinger|Deags> but it made my disk work correctly
[02:49] <Gunslinger|Deags> anby ideas?
[02:49] <juano__> BenFP: type /msg nickserv register anypasswordyoulike
[02:49] <Madpilot> Gunslinger|Deags, helped you w. what? Sorry, haven't been following your discussion
[02:49] <Flannel> Gunslinger|Deags: noacpi?
[02:49] <Gunslinger|Deags> nah i dont remember it wasnt that
[02:50] <Gunslinger|Deags> do u happen to remember me madpilot im sure u help lots of people
[02:50] <Wimpog> Flannel: OK, I see. yeah, I'm repartitioning new hard drive. So once I repartition, I'll edit /etc/fstab, which will cause /usr from the primary hd move to it's new location on the new hd. Am I understanding the partitioning process correctly?
[02:50] <Gunslinger|Deags> u helped me install ubuntu on my laptop and my shuttle
[02:50] <Gunslinger|Deags> and i turned off my laptop about a week ago
[02:50] <pvd2006> Did they come out with a version of ubuntu based on e17 yet?
[02:50] <Gunslinger|Deags> and i turn it back on tonight
[02:50] <Gunslinger|Deags> and no dice
[02:50] <Gunslinger|Deags> it just freezes
[02:51] <Flannel> Wimpog: you partition, all that does is setup a big empty box, you then need to copy your current /usr's contents, and then the fstab tells your computer that that partition is "/usr"
[02:51] <Madpilot> pvd2006, not yet
[02:51] <Gunslinger|Deags> so i come in here and they tell me u should install xubuntu it takes less minreqs
[02:51] <pvd2006> :-(
[02:51] <Gunslinger|Deags> so i downloaded that and now it is not working
[02:51] <Gunslinger|Deags> either so i am clueless
[02:51] <CyberCod> gunslinger, you had it near any large magnets? speakers?
[02:51] <Gunslinger|Deags> no
[02:52] <Gunslinger|Deags> speakers r pretty far away from it actually
[02:52] <Gunslinger|Deags> theres a printer
[02:52] <Wimpog> Flannel: OK, how about different situation. Say I just partitioned my HDD and now installing Linux. How do I specify which directories (/usr, /tmp) go where DURING installation?
[02:52] <Gunslinger|Deags> thats it
[02:52] <CyberCod> go into the bios, load setup defaults.. could be bios battery died or somethin like that, and messed up your settings
[02:52] <Gunslinger|Deags> ok ill try that brb
[02:52] <mackin> Anyone alive in here?
[02:53] <Flannel> Wimpog: there's a screen in the installer to do that
[02:53] <CyberCod> 'sup mackin
[02:53] <mackin> hey cyber
[02:53] <mackin> wondering
[02:53] <mackin> i installed the ati drivers
[02:53] <CyberCod> heh.. good luck there... what card
[02:53] <mackin> but max res is still only 800 x 600
[02:53] <Wimpog> Flannel: OK, I thought that has to be done manually as well, because I've never dealt with that stuff, I just used the defaults always
[02:53] <mackin> 9600
[02:54] <Gunslinger|Deags> didnt work
[02:54] <mackin> no ideas?
[02:54] <pvd2006> is e17 available for ubuntu as a apt-get package?
[02:54] <CyberCod> mackin you'll want to             sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and save a backup before you change anything... and see if the other resolutions are in there in the screen section... if not, you may have to add them
[02:55] <pvd2006> and e17 prebuilt themes
[02:55] <Flannel> !info enlightenment
[02:55] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[02:55] <Flannel> that version.  Whatever that happens to be.
[02:55] <CyberCod> gunslinger... it was a shot... you sure its not been dropped, re-seat your ram and such
[02:56] <Gunslinger|Deags> its a laptop
[02:56] <CyberCod> gunslinger, not every problem is software related
[02:56] <Gunslinger|Deags> hasnt been droped
[02:56] <Gunslinger|Deags> i dont see how it could be a hardware issue
[02:56] <Gunslinger|Deags> im not ruling that out
[02:56] <Gunslinger|Deags> i just dont see how its gonna work a week ago and not work today when all it has done is sit closed
[02:56] <mackin> ok cyber
[02:56] <mackin> ive added 1024
[02:57] <CyberCod> gunslinger, i'm just sayin, before working on the lawnmower engine because it won't start, make sure it has gas
[02:57] <mackin> gonna reboot wish me luck
[02:57] <CyberCod> check the basics
[02:57] <CyberCod> mackin
[02:57] <mackin> yes
[02:57] <CyberCod> mackin did you put it in the same format as the other entries?
[02:57] <lunaphyte___> hello
[02:58] <mackin> i added "1024x768"
[02:58] <Lurner> does anyone here use samba to share on a mixed network ?
[02:58] <Gunslinger|Deags> ionno all i know is it booted just fine a week ago i turned it off to save some power and now its not working
[02:58] <MikesHardLinux> Lurner, yes. I do
[02:58] <mackin> before "1024x768" "800x600" "640x ect"
[02:58] <CyberCod> ok, ctrl+alt+backspace is as good as rebooting for checking if that works...
[02:58] <Flannel> !anyone | Lurner
[02:58] <ubotu> Lurner: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:58] <CyberCod> one other things
[02:58] <CyberCod> one other thing mackin
[02:59] <CyberCod> are you familiar with the command line text editors?
[02:59] <mackin> no dice
[03:00] <Gunslinger|Deags> i guess i just have to take my large machine
[03:00] <mackin> so hard nacigating in 800x600 :(
[03:00] <Gunslinger|Deags> ionno this makes me upset]
[03:00] <MrBrown> er
[03:00] <CyberCod> Hmmm... sorry, i tried... ati drivers blow chunks... you using the proprietary ones?
[03:00] <Gunslinger|Deags> because i switched from windows to this for the fact of everything being better
[03:00] <Gunslinger|Deags> and now something is messed up
[03:00] <Lurner> I've just installed samba , sambafs and the gsambad control panel but now I have to configure all that.. do you know how ?
[03:00] <CyberCod> gunslinger, you have a windows install disk?
[03:00] <mackin> what was the console command again cyber sorry
[03:00] <gleesond> what do I need to do to make the ubuntu boot disk not load the xserver?
[03:00] <Gunslinger|Deags> just an xp disk now
[03:01] <Gunslinger|Deags> and i know xp wont run on i
[03:01] <Gunslinger|Deags> t
[03:01] <CyberCod> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <stefg> !samba | Lurner
[03:01] <ubotu> Lurner: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:01] <MrKeuner> hi, I have a printer icon on the top panel. I click on it and it is empty. i reboot and the icon is still there. I cannot print by the way. any help is welcome
[03:01] <Lurner> yes I've been reading about it all day
[03:01] <CyberCod> gunslinger, at least you can boot to the xp disk and see if it locks up after being in there a few minutes
[03:01] <Lurner> I think a few words with an experieced hand will help
[03:01] <Gunslinger|Deags> ok ill have to go find my cd
[03:01] <Lurner> if you could pm with me it might help
[03:02] <CyberCod> hey mackin
[03:02] <dumbintel> i get the following error when trying to open a video from nba.com
[03:02] <dumbintel> Totem could not play 'mmsh://wss.nine.xc.advection.net/003/wmsclients/nine/_dlp/3d/0d/3d0d07f3ab0e9863813805a0b2db6476-456ef31c.asf?advc=nine=1.104.1=1168828327=KhA0xhmjVp7tJz1AeGeG56QaWP3einEcCh8G48O1RQISLtvX0ptv8xW5wMk1gMFrSDXbFKSTRvxS%0A7Q5rBhtNZMIZCOOb5MdsuLju4oL!tuaY!er0iWnJjM!iS6CWWqJj%0A&MSWMExt=.asf'.
[03:02] <CyberCod> !pastebin | dumbintel
[03:02] <ubotu> dumbintel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:02] <pianoboy3333> Can someone here explain to me, how a make file is made, and what exactly it does, and how does make install, install the project?
[03:03] <CyberCod> mackin
[03:03] <Flannel> pianoboy3333: make is just a script, make install just calls the compiler, then copies stuff where it;s supposed to go.
[03:03] <BULLE> pianoboy3333: a makefile is written by someone, most likely the one writing the program
[03:03] <stefg> Lurner: samba is one of the best documented pieces of software in linux... so what exatly do you want to do?
[03:03] <Flannel> pianoboy3333: you'd be better off asking about makefile creation in a programming channel, I imagine
[03:03] <BULLE> pianoboy3333: there are plenty of tutorials about make available onthe net, just use google
[03:04] <pianoboy3333> BULLE: Flannel: how does something like checkinstall, fake the make install, and make a package?
[03:04] <BULLE> pianoboy3333: checkinstall is somethign completely different
[03:04] <Lurner> I'm in GSambad and I've configured everything I think I need but this is a complex topic better in a pm mode not in the main channel
[03:04] <pianoboy3333> BULLE: explain please
[03:04] <BULLE> pianoboy3333: it hooks into the kernel, and monitors what the make install thing does, on a file level
[03:04] <stefg> !pm
[03:04] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[03:04] <BULLE> pianoboy3333: then uses that info, to build a package
[03:04] <bluefox83> stefg, why is it the documentation on samba is written for aliens and not humans? cus i read some damn freaky ones..
[03:04] <bluefox83> most of them are in gibberish
[03:05] <Lurner> which is why I'm asking
[03:05] <ardchoille42> pianoboy3333, from what I understand, checkinstall simply makes a package from the source and then installs the package saving the package for you for later use.
[03:05] <stefg> bluefox83: question of perspective
[03:05] <BULLE> bluefox83: because we are from mars, and we are here to take over your puny little silly planet!
[03:05] <noobcook> im having trouble playing Enemy territory on ubuntu
[03:05] <noobcook> =(
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> ardchoille42: I'm looking for the specific, specifics, every one knows that bit :)
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> BULLE: ah, so it's not really "faking" a make install
[03:05] <bluefox83> BULLE, why? not like there's anything here of any value..not even intelligent life :P
[03:06] <BULLE> bluefox83: silly bet i made while being drunk at the pub
[03:06] <ardchoille42> bluefox83, hahahaha
[03:06] <Lurner> Is there anyone in the room that will pm about samba/gsambad issues ?
[03:06] <stefg> Lurner: : ask a smart question, get a smart answer... what do you want to do?
[03:06] <BULLE> pianoboy3333: was quite some time since i used checkinstall, but back then no, it was basicly carying out the actual install part of the makefile, and "recording" what happened, on a file system level
[03:06] <BULLE> pianoboy3333: then using that info, to build the actualy package
[03:06] <Lurner> I want to pm with someone about samba and gsambad issues with out all the intervening chatter
[03:07] <bluefox83> Lurner, i suggest joining #samba and then poking around the ubuntu samba wiki a lot...
[03:07] <pianoboy3333> BULLE: ok, thanks
[03:07] <dumbintel> anyone using ubuntu can you guys try any of the videos from NBA.com and tell me if it works and if so what I need to be able to play it?
[03:07] <Lurner> As I've expained I have read the docs  but really .. if you answer is no I won't pm with you .. please dont' say anything
[03:08] <CyberCod> mackin... whats your color set to.. 24 bit?
[03:08] <mackin> :(
[03:08] <mackin> i assume?
[03:08] <CyberCod> check it.. it needs to be 24
[03:08] <mackin> my first time using any form of linux
[03:08] <mackin> im an xwindows power user
[03:08] <noobcook> !ati
[03:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:08] <CyberCod> hey man, dont fret... i only started about 5 months ago
[03:09] <CyberCod> and i'm an ex-troll as well
[03:09] <mackin> lol
[03:09] <gaspipe1> hey
[03:09] <mackin> how do i check res?
[03:09] <noobcook> !xgl
[03:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:09] <mackin> 60hz is all i can find
[03:09] <CyberCod> good question
[03:10] <CyberCod> hang on
[03:10] <gaspipe1> i just finished installing ubuntu, on a HDD that has windows xp pro on it.. I partitioned it using the ubuntu install disc... seems ok.. 2 Q's
[03:10] <F28> hi
[03:10] <CyberCod> in the xorg.conf file it should have a default setting for the color... look in there, make sure it is 24
[03:10] <stefg> !fixres
[03:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:10] <mackin> k
[03:10] <LookTj> mackin: can you paste the output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:11] <F28> i just triedto compile somthing with gcc and i got some crazy fuckign errors
[03:11] <F28> cj@Fb0x:~/shsh4x$ gcc hack.c -o hacked
[03:11] <Tenri1> !dumb
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:65:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <CyberCod> man, if I just knew what ubotu knows, i'd be a god
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:66:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:71:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <Taladan> looking for some help with the server install (LAMP).  Wanting to configure the bind portion of it for my local (home) network, but I'm not sure where to start with it.  The only DNS work I've done is hand-tooling the zone records and such.
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:72:24: error: sys/socket.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <mackin> the output?
[03:11] <bikhu> I have a lenovo 3000 n100. Anyone have any ideas how I could figure out why my sound is pretty low (even after turning it up in aumix) and it's kinda staticy?
[03:11] <gleesond> what flag do I need set to make the ubuntu live cd not load the xserver?
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:73:22: error: sys/time.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:74:24: error: netinet/in.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:75:30: error: netinet/in_systm.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:76:24: error: netinet/ip.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <F28> hack.c:77:19: error: netdb.h: No such file or directory
[03:11] <gaspipe1> when I go to start my pc... it goes to xp on auto... even when i hit F8 only shows xp pro. how can I have a menu come up or a hot key or something for ubuntu to load?
[03:11] <LookTj> cybercod: lol
[03:11] <mackin> default depth is 24
[03:11] <CyberCod> !pastebin |F28
[03:11] <ubotu> F28: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:11] <stefg> !paste | F28
[03:11] <ubotu> F28: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:12] <Taladan> Or perhaps a link to documentation of sorts
[03:12] <YokoZar> Is there a way to test an Ubuntu CD without booting it?
[03:12] <F28> VMware
[03:12] <CyberCod> mackin, it should be down there near where the resolutions are
[03:12] <Flannel> YokoZar: there's a CD check on the CD
[03:12] <Lurner> Is there anyone in the room that will pm about samba/gsambad issues ?
[03:12] <CyberCod> mackin, poste your xorg.conf up on pastebin and let us have a look at it
[03:12] <Flannel> gaspipe1: did you install GRUB?
[03:12] <bikhu> guess not :(
[03:13] <YokoZar> Flannel: Is it a script I can run though?  I need to figure out if my CD is bad or if my drive is bad (booting it is giving errors)
[03:13] <gaspipe1> anyone have a dual boot running off 1 hdd?
[03:13] <stefg> YokoZar: shure you can play frisbee with it or trample on it to see if it breaks .-)
[03:13] <CyberCod> gaspipe1 yes    i do
[03:13] <Gunslinger|Deags> well windows xp seems to be loading fine cybercod
[03:13] <Flannel> YokoZar: I... guess you could compare bits.  but no, not that I know of
[03:13] <Gunslinger|Deags> i am noy goinh yo actuallly install everything if thats ok with u
[03:13] <CyberCod> ok, gunslinger, now you know it is just that disk... perhaps an error when downloading
[03:13] <LookTj> cybercod: he can just tell you what cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf says
[03:13] <Dot-Communist> how do i fix a broken package that wont work
[03:13] <mackin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1643/
[03:13] <Gunslinger|Deags> well i have a ok fisk of regular ubuntu and that doesnt work either
[03:14] <CyberCod> next time gunslinger, use the torrent, it will throw out bad chunks
[03:14] <mackin> i added the 10x24 sections
[03:14] <ardchoille42> Lurner, If there was someone to pm with you, you may not be able to talk back to them if they have ID'd their nick to nickserv because you aren't id'd.
[03:14] <jrib> stefg: yes, what's up?
[03:14] <LookTj> !broken | dot-communist
[03:14] <jrib> SurfnKid: yes, what's up?
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <gaspipe1> >cybercod how do i get a menu to start when i boot up or a hot key to lad ubuntu?
[03:14] <black_abaddon> hi
[03:14] <CyberCod> gunslinger... well that is not good... and it worked before?
[03:14] <LookTj> :O
[03:14] <Dot-Communist> !broken
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <Gunslinger|Deags> i dont use the torrent i cant have bittorrent my internet company does not allow it
[03:14] <Flannel> gaspipe1: did you install grub?
[03:14] <Gunslinger|Deags> ya it worked before twice
[03:14] <Taladan> !LAMP
[03:14] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:14] <LookTj> dot-communist upgrade it?
[03:14] <Lurner> then I'd start a new channel with them.. no problem.. I just need to talk to someone.. we'll figure it out.. there's more than one way to skin a cat
[03:14] <gaspipe1> uhhh is that with synaptic PM?
[03:15] <black_abaddon> my grub has some command error on it
[03:15] <Flannel> gaspipe1: no, it's during the installation
[03:15] <black_abaddon> i dont know why
[03:15] <Dot-Communist> it says broken pipeline error
[03:15] <Dot-Communist> so it quits
[03:15] <gaspipe1> i don't think it asked
[03:15] <SurfnKid> jrib, there's this player i saw on this image screenshot, with an mp3 player, but its all thru a VT, and i tried mpd, mpg321, mpg123 and ncmpc but i cant load my files
[03:15] <linux_kid> ok, my samba networked server(w/ xfce) wont let me edit files in "/var/www/" on my other ubuntu machine but allows a windows pc on my network to edit the files.  any suggestions?
[03:15] <ardchoille42> Lurner, true that
[03:15] <Flannel> gaspipe1: Which installer did you use? Desktop or Alternate
[03:15] <mackin> did you guys get mypastebin?
[03:15] <jrib> SurfnKid: what files?
[03:15] <Dot-Communist> so what am i supposed to do about it
[03:15] <crump> could someone help me with ati official driver?
[03:16] <Dot-Communist> its a broken package that is broken
[03:16] <gaspipe1> >Flannel desktop...from the install cd (LIVE CD)
[03:16] <stefg> !permissions
[03:16] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:16] <mackin> crump LOL thats what im figurin out
[03:16] <black_abaddon> my grub files are sodomized, why is that so?
[03:16] <jrib> SurfnKid: btw, mocp and cmus are two ncurses ones
[03:16] <Gunslinger|Deags> ok heres what i did with the xp cd i deleted all the partitions and i am going to try to run the cd i know works brb
[03:16] <crump> man this thing is driving me crazy.
[03:16] <mackin> i know
[03:16] <mackin> navigatin in 800x600 is so hard
[03:16] <noobcook> !xgl
[03:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:16] <Pie-rat1> how would i change my kernel from i386 to generic?
[03:16] <Flannel> gaspipe1: alright, reboot, hit escape.  Do you get a menu? (a grub menu?) with different choices on what to boot to?
[03:16] <SurfnKid> jrib, ncurses?
[03:16] <black_abaddon> it is easy man
[03:17] <LookTj> !e17
[03:17] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:17] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: install linux-generic package (and remove linux-386 and linux-image-386)
[03:17] <gmi01> hello i am using a laptop with intel Core 2 Duo T5600 processor should i use a 32-bit ubuntu or a 64-bit one?
[03:17] <black_abaddon> yep
[03:17] <Dot-Communist> !xcompmgr
[03:17] <ubotu> xcompmgr: X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3~20060831-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:17] <Lurner> maybe try partitioning with 1 linux swap, one linux ext3 and one NTFS with the NTFS created last in line
[03:17] <black_abaddon> nisam nita jeo
[03:17] <stefg> !permissions > linux_kid
[03:17] <black_abaddon> linux is just bad
[03:17] <Flannel> gaspipe1: that'll be escape right after the POST screen, almost right away
[03:17] <juano__> !ati
[03:17] <Lurner> then install the alt edition and install the grub loader
[03:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:17] <gaspipe1> >flannel ok so i should reboot...and hit ESC when?
[03:17] <jrib> SurfnKid: yep, it's like widgets for the terminal
[03:17] <crump> what am i supposed to do with fglrx.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile ? i tried delete it like 10 times but it keeps coming back...is this some kinda lock on it?
[03:18] <linux_kid> thanx stefg: ill look into that
[03:18] <Lurner> the grub load screen only lasts 3 seconds so you have to be fast on the escape key
[03:18] <Lurner> you can edit the menu.lst file to extend that time if you wish
[03:18] <Flannel> gaspipe1: oyu'll see a thing at the bottom saying "hit ESC"
[03:18] <gaspipe1> ok I will try that
[03:18] <black_abaddon> boring stuf try to delte it and just reinstall
[03:18] <yotux> Please don't flame me but why does ubuntu not fall victim to malware?
[03:18] <gaspipe1> >flannel if that doesn't work?
[03:19] <stefg> crump: what you are doing is deleting a file in a /ram disk/, which is recreated at each reboot
[03:19] <Flannel> gaspipe1: then you don't have grub installed, and we'll need to install it (not a big deal)
[03:19] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: linux-image-2.6.17-10-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 will be removed
[03:19] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: linux-generic (version <IP_ADDRESS>), linux-restricted-modules-generic (version <IP_ADDRESS>) will be installed
[03:19] <black_abaddon> well kill your self then
[03:19] <gleesond> how do I change the run levels on the ubuntu live cd to not load the xserver?
[03:19] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: correct.
[03:19] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: Correct?
[03:19] <CyberCod> mackin you there?
[03:19] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: k
[03:19] <mackin> yes
[03:19] <crump> steelb, so how do i delete the real file?
[03:19] <LookTj> black_abaddon: I suggest you use polite language
[03:19] <ardchoille42> yotux, I am thinking that, since Linux takes a bit of knowledge to use, by the time users are comfortable in Linux, they are at the point where they know how to avoid malware/spyware and things like that.
[03:19] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: and you'll want to remove linux-image-386 and linux-386 (or you'll keep getting updates of those kernels as well)
[03:19] <crump> steelb, can i pm you?
[03:19] <mackin> Cyber im here :D
[03:20] <CyberCod> mackin, you'll want to make a backup of how it is now, by using the command     sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[03:20] <black_abaddon> i am ubuntu master
[03:20] <CyberCod> then get the changes i made here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1644/
[03:20] <gaspipe1> >flannel ok i will try to reboot and do that...either way i will be back :P
[03:20] <black_abaddon> and i am good looking too
[03:20] <CyberCod> and save that as your new xorg.conf
[03:20] <gaspipe1> >flannel thanks again
[03:20] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: Its giving me a warning message that i'm about to make my system unbootable.
[03:20] <LookTj> black_abaddon: you have no proof of that
[03:20] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: er.  When doing what?
[03:20] <mackin> just replace?
[03:21] <vik> how can I check what resolutions my video card supports? is there a command to interrogate it?
[03:21] <black_abaddon> i know but i am telling you the truth
[03:21] <SurfnKid> jrib, got a file or manual i could read and perhaps learn some more about them
[03:21] <black_abaddon> i am good looking
[03:21] <CyberCod> if it doesnt' work you'll want to   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to get your old one back  write that down because if it doesnt work you may be in command line only
[03:21] <SurfnKid> jrib, dont wanna take up yer time :)
[03:21] <Pie-rat1> You are running a kernel (version 2.6.17-10-386) and attempting to remove the same version. This is a potentially disastrous action.
[03:21] <CyberCod> yes, just replace
[03:21] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: first install -generic, reboot, then later remove the 386, after you know the -generic kernel doesn't cause problems
[03:21] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: You are running a kernel (version 2.6.17-10-386) and attempting to remove the same version. This is a potentially disastrous action.
[03:21] <LookTj> black_abaddon: I don't believe you
[03:22] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: and, you don't need to remove the kernel itself, just "linux-image-386" and "linux-386"
[03:22] <guiller> GTA San Andreas Ubuntu 6.10 is rulesssss !! :D
[03:22] <mackin> thanks cyber ill be back
[03:22] <black_abaddon> well why dont you?
[03:22] <jrib> SurfnKid: man pages and whatever is in /usr/share/doc/package_name  I use cmus myself.  But mpd offers a daemon with a bunch of different frontends which is cool too
[03:22] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: keeping the old linux-image-[version] -386 is fine, and wise until you know -generic works
[03:22] <crump> what can i do to tell my ubuntu to load the module fglrx.ko from /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/misc instead of from /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile??
[03:22] <CyberCod> black_abaddon how's that trojan coming along?
[03:22] <SurfnKid> jrib, oh a front end i see
[03:22] <black_abaddon> oh my old trojan friend
[03:23] <stefg> crump they are copies... dont mess with that
[03:23] <black_abaddon> well it has taken control of the computer
[03:23] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: will this break my nvidia-drivers?
[03:23] <Flannel> Pie-rat1: no, all you're doing is switching kernels
[03:23] <crump> that am i suppose to do ? : (
[03:23] <crump> what *
[03:23] <LookTj> black_abaddon: you confused me
[03:23] <Pie-rat1> Flannel: brb
[03:23] <gmi01> should i use a 64-bit 32-bit  linux with intel core 2 duo?
[03:23] <asddfs> how to automate mount ntfs partition with ntfs-3g
[03:23] <black_abaddon> LookTj: how?
[03:23] <asddfs> gmi01: 64
[03:24] <mini_> liqui
[03:24] <gmi01> asddfs, should i use the PC (Intel x86) desktop CD for 64 bit
[03:24] <Flannel> gmi01: no, if you want 64bit, you need the 64bit CD
[03:24] <LookTj> black_abaddon: i assume you are on w32, if not, you're trying to make ubuntu look bad
[03:24] <Optikal____> What's the advantage of using the 64 bit version?
[03:25] <stefg> crump what about explaining your problem (after reading http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html)
[03:25] <CyberCod> LookTj... private joke
[03:25] <gmi01> Flannel, but on the ubuntu download page 64 is only foramd
[03:25] <grndslm> I'm trying to setup apt-build...and the installer asks me whether my processer is p1, p2, p3, p3m, p4, p4m, prescott, & something else....i have core 2 duo, so what should I do?
[03:25] <mackin> hey cyber i think there mightbe a different config
[03:25] <Flannel> gmi01: no, it's not.  that's just the 64bit instruction set standard
[03:25] <crump> stefg thank you
[03:25] <CyberCod> mackin what happened?
[03:25] <mackin> because my options are still 800x600 with no 800x600 options in the config
[03:25] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Hey guys, I am looking to run a game server running HLDS (Half-Life Dedicated Server.) Any suggestions?! I need text based only..
[03:25] <gmi01> Flannel, I see so i should use The amd one.
[03:25] <LookTj> cybercod: you mean black_abaddon is joking?
[03:26] <joshy01> how to automate mount ntfs partition with ntfs-3g?
[03:26] <Flannel> gmi01: if you want 64bit
[03:26] <CyberCod> try going ahead and rebooting all the way
[03:26] <black_abaddon> LookTj: yes i am afraid you are right i am on w32, windows are yus better
[03:26] <mackin> i did
[03:26] <gmi01> Flannel, Great I see thanks...
[03:26] <black_abaddon> i am a bit of a joker,yeah
[03:26] <Flannel> Optikal____: you can address RAM outside of 4GB, AMD64 doesn't suffer from registry starvation like i386
[03:26] <arctanx> Hi, I'm running an ubuntu-server, and I'd like to install X so that I can run X progs over ssh, but I don't want to run an a client on that machine. Can anyone point me to the packages I should be looking at?
[03:26] <craigbass1976> Ok, I've been bad.  The initial user (the one that gets created when you install) has been deleted and recreated.  I do not have the same permissions though.  I can't sudo and don't have access to some of the GUI tools I need until I figure out how to do everything in the command line.  What groups do I need to be a member of for more options to show up in my system admin window?
[03:27] <craigbass1976> And why can't root log into the GUI?
[03:27] <Optikal____> What if you don't have 4GB of ram?
[03:27] <Flannel> arctanx: you'll want xserver-xorg, that's the base xserver
[03:27] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Whats the most stable version of ubuntu for a server?
[03:27] <mackin> I downloaded and installed the ATI binary C. Org driver from the add/remove menu
[03:27] <arctanx> Flannel: cheers
[03:27] <mackin> X. Org****
[03:27] <LookTj> craigbass1972: for security reasons
[03:28] <Flannel> craigbass1976: root user is disabled in ubuntu, and even once you enable it, root is disabled from logging in to a GUI
[03:28] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: I would go with dapper since you won't have to upgrade for a long time
[03:28] <vik> is there a command that will tell me what resolutions my graphics card supports?
[03:28] <Flannel> craigbass1976: you need to be part of the admin group
[03:28] <stefg> craigbass1976: root- logins to X are nono, and there's no good-night-story if you dare to login as root :-)
[03:28] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, thanks, but I tried that and im having alot of problems with segmentation faults in my programs
[03:28] <LookTj> craigbass: but you login to root via terminal/text based
[03:28] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: example?
[03:28] <black_abaddon> i have to go to sleep now, i go to school in 3 hours
[03:28] <Flannel> craigbass1976: you can reboot to single user mode (recovery console) from grub, to have a root prompt
[03:29] <liquid> sup
[03:29] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, When running HLDS on map change I get a segmentation fault...
[03:29] <craigbass1976> I realize the dangers of logging into the GUI as root, but I only need to long enough to put craig back in the groups.
[03:29] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, every time
[03:29] <craigbass1976> Or can I just edit /etc/passwd?
[03:29] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: anything else?
[03:29] <black_abaddon> and dont forget about windows, they are better
[03:29] <liquid> Hello i am having some problems with my wireless card and ubuntu 6.06
[03:29] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, thats all I need to run :P
[03:29] <liquid> and i heard using some sort of ndswrapper will fix my problem
[03:29] <Flannel> craigbass1976: just add him from a command line
[03:29] <linux_kid> liquid | !wifi
[03:30] <black_abaddon> be avare of the trojans for linux, they are bad!
[03:30] <LookTj> craigbass1976: do it via command line
[03:30] <liquid> !wifi
[03:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:30] <black_abaddon> nighty night then
[03:30] <Flannel> craigbass1976: usermod is your command
[03:30] <mackin> :*(
[03:30] <LookTj> black_abaddon: another one of your jokes?
[03:30] <LookTj> lol
[03:30] <craigbass1976> Flannel, Ahhh.  Thanks
[03:30] <Flannel> black_abaddon: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:30] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, would you be able to help me find the cause of the segmentation faults?
[03:30] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: did you try a different distro to make sure it's ubuntu's fault?
[03:30] <rsreichert> how would i set the runlevel at boot time
[03:31] <mackin> :*(
[03:31] <black_abaddon> i am a joker
[03:31] <black_abaddon> bye
[03:31] <PwndMopar> Does ubuntu have flash support?
[03:31] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, Well here is my problem, it was running fine. Then all of a sudden I was getting these errors that started with **** glibc detected **** <segmentation fault error here>
[03:31] <fastly> can anyone here recommend a good program for managing and viewing digital photos?
[03:31] <Flannel> !flash9 | PwndMopar
[03:31] <ubotu> PwndMopar: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[03:31] <mackin> windows
[03:31] <CyberCod> sorry child emergency
[03:31] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, then the glibc detected part disapeered...
[03:31] <PwndMopar> !backports
[03:31] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:32] <mackin> fastly
[03:32] <mackin> windowz
[03:32] <LookTj> pwnd you noob, how are you? :)
[03:32] <liquid> winblowzzz
[03:32] <craigbass1976> Flannel, which group, adm or admin for craig to get privs?
[03:32] <mackin> well so does ubuntu so far
[03:32] <mackin> im not likin the switch
[03:32] <steelb> is there a way to search the terminal?
[03:32] <fastly> mackin, you're neither amusing or original
[03:32] <jrib> steelb: for?
[03:32] <steelb> text
[03:32] <liquid> Hello i am having some problems with my wireless card and ubuntu 6.06
[03:32] <liquid> Hello i am having some problems with my wireless card and ubuntu 6.06
[03:32] <jrib> steelb: in a file?
[03:32] <liquid> oops
[03:32] <LookTj> and pwnd, yes ubuntu has flash support
[03:33] <steelb> jrib, there's just a lot of output and i wanna search it
[03:33] <stefg> !wifi | liquid
[03:33] <ubotu> liquid: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:33] <Flannel> craigbass1976: admin, but a default user is part of these groups: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[03:33] <LookTj> the package is flashplugin-nonfree i believe
[03:33] <jrib> steelb: oh, pipe to grep
[03:33] <CyberCod> mackin  did you go for dual boot? or linux only?
[03:33] <liquid> im there
[03:33] <liquid> i dont know where to look
[03:33] <Flannel> craigbass1976: well, and then their own
[03:33] <steelb> jrib... ?
[03:33] <jrib> steelb: example:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep deb
[03:33] <mackin> linux only
[03:33] <rsreichert> is there any way to boot into the tty screen instead of gnome?
[03:33] <liquid> and i dont have time to read
[03:33] <mackin> tossed ubuntu ona 20 gig
[03:33] <jrib> steelb: that takes the output of  cat /etc/apt/sources.list  and filters it for instances of "deb"
[03:34] <mackin> got my windows onanotherdrive,
[03:34] <steelb> ah
[03:34] <craigbass1976> Flannel, ok, well, that's the user I deleted.  I don't suppose I can get them all in one usermod comand, can I?
[03:34] <LookTj> rsreichert: ctrl+alt+f1-f6
[03:34] <jrib> steelb: for better readability, I like:  grep --color=auto  (I just alias this)
[03:34] <CyberCod> mackin, I'll tell you now, you're linux experience is going to be jaded so long as you are using ATI, or until they get off their butts and fix their crapware drivers
[03:34] <rsreichert> thanks
[03:34] <mackin> what cardis supported?
[03:34] <craigbass1976> ATI has bad drivers?
[03:34] <Flannel> craigbass1976: yep  http://www.ss64.com/bash/usermod.html  read he bit about -G
[03:35] <steelb> thanks
[03:35] <mrtaran123> build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[03:35] <jrib> asdfjkahsdfjkha: I don't know anything about hlds so I don't think I can really help
[03:35] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> jrib, okay, thanks! :P
[03:35] <CyberCod> mackin I had radeon 9250... in fact i'm still wrestling with it in mint linux on my in-laws machine... and when i switched to an nvidia card, my problems miraculously vanished
[03:35] <LookTj> craigbass1976: ati doesn't fully support Linux yet
[03:35] <craigbass1976> LookTj, I was being smart.
[03:35] <mackin> my old tnt 2is  sitting around heresomewhere
[03:36] <CyberCod> give it a shot... you may have a much easier time of it
[03:36] <steelb> is there any simple way jrib? such as press a shortcut?
[03:36] <mackin> does it even support it a tiny bit?
[03:36] <mackin> im just interested in getting a higher res,
[03:36] <Flannel> !fixres | mackin
[03:36] <ubotu> mackin: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:36] <mackin> i cant function on such asmall dt
[03:36] <jrib> steelb: not that I know of
[03:37] <mackin> ok ill try that
[03:37] <CyberCod> well, the open source drivers are better than ATI's own... go back into xorg.conf and change driver from ati to fglrx
[03:37] <CyberCod> i just saw that... if you installed those drivers you need to change that
[03:37] <jrib> steelb: you could redirect output to a file and then use your favorite text editor
[03:37] <CyberCod> and if that doesn't work, change it to    "radeon"
[03:38] <steelb> k, thanks jrib
[03:38] <mackin> ok so search fgrlx?
[03:38] <CyberCod> no not search it, change         Driver    "ati"            in the device section          to            Driver   "fglrx"
[03:39] <PirateHead> What repo can I find QEMU in?
[03:39] <Flannel> PirateHead: universe
[03:40] <craigbass1976> Flannel, Hey, thanks
[03:40] <gaspipe1> >flannel no luck with the ESC... gust showed me how to boot... cd, floppy, ect... then last 2 where weird, something like legacy and intel something like that... ( i have an AMD atholon 64) only way it boots to ubuntu is with install cd
[03:40] <erisco> is there a way to check and see if my graphic card is being picked up?
[03:40] <Flannel> gaspipe1: alrightlooks like grub wasn't installed
[03:41] <Flannel> !grub | gaspipe1, first link
[03:41] <ubotu> gaspipe1, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:41] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how to shut that drum off when the GUI login comes up?  I can get the BWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH to stop after I log in, but the drums have to stop too.
[03:41] <mackin> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:41] <mackin> dropped meto a nice nothing
[03:41] <marither> hi! is crossover demo-6.0.0sh compatible here at ubuntu 5.10?
[03:42] <LookTj> brb
[03:42] <LookTj> reboot
[03:42] <CyberCod> mackin... fglrx didn't work?
[03:42] <craigbass1976> Forget it, I got it.  That was dumb...
[03:42] <erisco> isn't there a sort of hardware manager or something so I can see what linux is recognizing?
[03:42] <mackin> im trying it now
[03:43] <Rob002> Hi there, I just got ubuntu installed. But I am trying to share a folder between ubuntu and windows. I did the "Shared Folders" app thingy and selected the folder I wanted to share. But when I try to access it from my windows computer it is asking for a username / password and my default account login isnt working. Is there something I can do.
[03:44] <moocowmoocowmoo> I use this entry in a shell script to run backups: "sudo smbmount $SHARE $SMBMP"... is there a way to bypass the sudo so i dont get a password prompt?
[03:44] <marither> rob002 you need samba to connect to networks
[03:44] <ttmrichter> moocowmoocowmoocow: Are the backups run by cron or the like?
[03:44] <gaspipe1> >flannel ok cool, and thanks!
[03:44] <Rob002> It installed samba. Windows is asking me for a username / password when I try to connect.
[03:44] <moocowmoocowmoo> ttmrichter: I will set it to cron after i can get the script to run by itself
[03:44] <Flannel> Rob002: that's correct.  You need to setup samba users
[03:45] <Flannel> !samba | Rob002
[03:45] <ubotu> Rob002: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:45] <CyberCod> Rob002  its the username and password from linux login
[03:45] <gaspipe1> >flannel one other thing... is there a reason that i can't see other files that are on my xp partition... or files that are on my d:
[03:45] <CyberCod> unless you specify it as somethin else
[03:45] <Pelo> to anyone who cares to answer, :   in menu , system, prefs,in  : disk and removable media ( or what ever it is in english) , first tab,  top section,   automaticaly lanuch programs on new disks and media   , what kind of format are we taking about here ? what kind of program does it need to be ?  would a bash script do ? how do I automate it ?
[03:45] <moocowmoocowmoo> ttmrichter: my need help with that too eventually, but first i need to get it to execute without asking me for sudo password
[03:45] <marither> anybody familiar with crossover?
[03:45] <CSWookie> How do I upgrade from dapper to whatever the current thing is?
[03:46] <Pelo> marither,  I am sure they have a channel
[03:46] <Madpilot> ubotu, upgrade | CSWookie
[03:46] <Pelo> !update
[03:46] <ubotu> CSWookie: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:46] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:46] <Flannel> gaspipe1: what?  have you mounted your windows drive?
[03:46] <oxydo> hola
[03:46] <marither> pelo, what do you mean by channel? in ubuntu 5.10?
[03:47] <Pelo> !es | oxydo
[03:47] <ubotu> oxydo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:47] <ttmrichter> moocowmoocowmoo: Well, the thing is that if you add it to the root account's cron table, you don't need sudo.
[03:47] <Pelo> marither,  an irc channel for crossover
[03:47] <Optikal____> Can anyone recommend a good free partition tool for WinXP:
[03:47] <Optikal____> ?
[03:47] <ttmrichter> moocowmoocowmoo: So the solution to the "don't want a password prompt" is to run it in an environment that doesn't need a password.  :-)
[03:47] <Pelo> Optikal____,  does this look like #winxp ?
[03:48] <linux_kid> Optikal: you cannot partition mounted partitions
[03:48] <moocowmoocowmoo> ttmrichter: I see, so it will run smbmount and what not? How do I add it to root's cron table?
[03:48] <Optikal____> Linux_Kid: How does PartitionMagic do it?
[03:48] <linux_kid> Its a live CD i believe
[03:48] <Optikal____> Ah
[03:49] <pvd2006> what is new in edgy eft
[03:49] <Optikal____> Okay, can anyone recommend a good free partition image =)
[03:49] <pvd2006> !edfy eft
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edfy eft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <pvd2006> !edfy
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edfy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <pvd2006> whoops
[03:49] <fiendskull9> well, ive worked myself into a corner
[03:49] <fiendskull9> http://pastebin.ca/316906
[03:49] <pvd2006> !edgy
[03:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:49] <init_6> i'm running a windows remote control program in wine (timbuktu pro) and I need to send a ctrl-alt-del.  Anyone have any ideas on how to accomplish this?
[03:49] <linux_kid> Optikal Use Gparted on the Ubuntu live cd
[03:49] <nomin> are there more people using edgy than dapper?
[03:50] <ttmrichter> moocowmoocowmoo: You'd add it to the root cron table by sudoing your command to add to cron.  :-)  (I don't recall the full cron thing -- editing crontabs and such gives me headaches so I do it as rarely as possible!)  When you sudo, you're switching to root, effectively, you see.
[03:50] <erisco> !hardware
[03:50] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:50] <CSWookie> Madpilot: Is there a way to do it that doesn't involve a gui?
[03:50] <Optikal____> linux_kid: That gave me some trouble with my SATA drive last time.. hrmm
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> nomin: In here, probably yes.  But there's a lot of Dapper in school and business deployments, and probably more Edgy for personal use.  (I'd guess)
[03:50] <linux_kid> Optikal: ask you neighbor if he has partition majic...
[03:50] <Madpilot> CSWookie, yes, that should be covered on the upgrade pages too - using apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:50] <Rob002> Got it, next question is. How can I make a directory writable to a specific user? And have all sub directories take that permission also?
[03:50] <Pelo> can someone give me the proper option in english for what I want so I can look it up in the forum please ?    menu > system > prefs : disk and removable media : first tab, top section :  automaticaly launch programs on new disk and media
[03:51] <CSWookie> Madpilot: I noticed that, but it says that it's unreliable and will cause problems.
[03:51] <xpika> could someone help me and tell me an anonymous http proxy address my isp isn't letting me get through through there main site
[03:51] <moocowmoocowmoo> ttmrichter: Something like sudo crontab (script)?
[03:51] <gaspipe1> >flannel it's late, and I ran out of time...thanks for your help! I'll look for you with the files problem after I get grub installed. overall not to bad, ubuntu works, xp works, not bad for my 1st day w/ linux
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> Rob002: Add the user to a group, make the directory belong to the group and give the group write privs.  (adduser, chown, chmod)
[03:51] <gaspipe1> >flannel thanks again...night
[03:51] <Zambezi> Anybody speaks german? I desperately need help.
[03:51] <Madpilot> CSWookie, I know it's depreciated, but it does (afaik) still work....
[03:51] <pvd2006> so is edgy eft more responsive then previous release?
[03:51] <Madpilot> ubotu, de | Zambezi
[03:51] <ubotu> Zambezi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:51] <Pelo> !de ! Zambezi
[03:51] <ttmrichter> Zambezi, what's the problem?
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de ! Zambezi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <xtknight> what does "chmod a+x" do vs. "chmod u+x" or "chmod +x" ??
[03:52] <Pablo> less go
[03:52] <init_6> xtknight a = all.  u=user
[03:52] <kingace> what's a good program for designing website mock-ups, besides gimp and inkscape?
[03:52] <xtknight> init_6: thakns
[03:52] <xtknight> thanks
[03:52] <Zambezi> ttmrichter, My computer motherboard broke and I'm trying to order from a Germanpage, but I don't know if it's in store.
[03:52] <CSWookie> Bah.  Alright, I'll use the ugly nasty GUI.
[03:52] <xtknight> i can read german sort of
[03:53] <Zambezi> xtknight, Can I PM some link?
[03:53] <xtknight> Zambezi: sure
[03:53] <moocowmoocowmoo> ttmrichter: Well thanks for your help I'll work on trying to make it a root crontab, will try back later if i cant get it
[03:53] <humpinH> hi all, i'm trying to stream audio from a mac to my ubuntu box over a lan, any recommended programs??
[03:53] <linux_kid> kingace: a simple dry erase board works welll :) lol
[03:53] <ttmrichter> Give the link to me as well, Zambezi.  I can *READ* German quite well, actually.
[03:53] <mackin> Cyber
[03:54] <Optikal____> Un Tannenbaum?
[03:54] <kingace> linux_kid: not really
[03:54] <linux_kid> kingace: :{, sorry
[03:55] <kingace> :P
[03:55] <CyberCod> I'm here
[03:55] <kingace> any other suggestions
[03:55] <init_6> how can I send a ctrl-alt-del signal to a program that is running in wine?
[03:55] <mackin> CyberCod switching the config from ATI destroyed my install
[03:55] <CyberCod> put on a movie for my boy
[03:55] <kingace> i mean, in your (all) experience, what linux program is MOST similar to Macromedia Fireworks
[03:55] <CyberCod> did you put it back?
[03:55] <mackin> im back onmy windows box
[03:56] <CyberCod> i doubt it is destroyed, what happened?  dump you in command line?
[03:56] <mackin> nothing
[03:56] <mackin> blackness
[03:56] <mackin> reboot, blackness
[03:56] <mackin> nothing
[03:56] <linux_kid> kingace: i know this is obvious, but if you already own fireworx, you could wine it...
[03:56] <erisco> !graphics
[03:56] <CyberCod> you have a second computer? or did you switch in your windows drive?
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <mackin> i got 4 pc's
[03:57] <mackin> thisone i just swapped back to my windows drive
[03:57] <metres> Hi all do anyone know how to fix my problem : I need to do "sudo ln -s /dev/sda1 /dev/disk/by-uuid/12813c8b-0e06-4a0b-861a-2c9ab1ab5cc1" to be able to mount my sda1 disk..?
[03:57] <kingace> linux_kid: no, you cant :p i've wasted a solid 3 hours trying. even codeweavers cant emulate it
[03:57] <linux_kid> kingace: well, i would notify the wineHQ team
[03:57] <erisco> doesn't linux have any kind of way to configure a graphics card? I am not sure if my graphics card is configured properly
[03:57] <mackin> so anyways, dont givethat advice to another n00b :P
[03:58] <metres> erisco : which kind ?
[03:58] <CyberCod> ok, get on one where you can talk to me, and get the ubuntu drive back in that box... and boot it up to live cd
[03:58] <erisco> metres, Radeon Xpress 200 Series
[03:58] <humpinH> uh, no one has advice for me??
[03:58] <mackin> im gonna go have a smoke
[03:58] <mackin> then ill try and get it running again
[03:58] <CyberCod> mackin, it's not dead.. hollar when you get back
[03:58] <mackin> :P
[03:58] <metres> erisco : have you done fglrxinfo ?
[03:58] <erisco> metres, on 6.06 it was working fine, but now I am on 6.10 and I have lost graphical performance
[03:58] <yushiro> someone help me, i need to download java runtime plugins and download doesnt work
[03:59] <erisco> metres, what is that?
[03:59] <wastrel> humpinH:  you're looking for mac software- we only know linux stuff ;]
[03:59] <init_6> yushiro you could try using automatix
[03:59] <wastrel> !automatix | init_6
[03:59] <metres> erisco : it gives info on the installed drivers...
[03:59] <ubotu> init_6: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:00] <erisco> metres, it says the command was not found
[04:00] <init_6> lol oops
[04:00] <metres> erisco : you have installed the ati driver ?
[04:00] <BenPA> can anyone tell me how to get wireless pc card to work in ubuntu 6.06
[04:00] <erisco> metres, well to be entirely honest I forget what I did on 6.06 for that... long time ago
[04:00] <erisco> metres, where can I go for drivers?
[04:01] <gopi> is there a simple way to set up an Ubuntu LAMP server to forward FTP connections to another IP? a simple redirect would be best
[04:02] <spardue> I'm trying to compile aquamarine from the svn and I've got a configure.in.in file, yet ./configure shows "no file or directory"
[04:02] <CyberCod> !worksforme
[04:02] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:02] <erisco> metres, will this guide be good? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[04:02] <metres> erisco : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fglrx
[04:03] <erisco> metres, I do not speak french =\
[04:03] <naxxtor> i've got a problem here: xawtv seems to work fine, but tvtime just gives me a big old blue screen - i'm not entirely sure how they differ and whether i can change the settings on tvtime to make it work
[04:03] <naxxtor> running ubuntu dapper
[04:03] <metres> erisco : sorry I do not notice...
[04:04] <BenPA> can anyone tell me how to get wireless pc card to work in ubuntu 6.06 ... I have the ndiswrapper installed
[04:04] <erisco> metres, does the link I said cover what needs to be done?
[04:04] <Kamesh> BenPA@ what is the name of your laptop ?
[04:05] <PwndMopar> 46 minutes
[04:05] <PwndMopar> Finally
[04:05] <BenPA> it's a pc not laptop
[04:05] <spardue> I'm trying to compile aquamarine from the svn and I've got a configure.in.in file, yet ./configure shows "no file or directory"
[04:05] <arctanx> I'm running an sshd on an ubuntu box and ssh on a gentoo box, and have X11 forwarding enabled for both the client and server, but $DISPLAY is not being set correctly when I ssh in. Has anyone any ideas?
[04:05] <metres> erisco : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:05] <Optikal____> I'd rather just buy a new card than deal with NDISWRAPPER
[04:05] <Optikal____> it really bugs me
[04:05] <mena> Friends What is VMware Player Any one now about it
[04:05] <mena> now___Know
[04:06] <Pici> its a program that runs a virtual machine
[04:06] <PwndMopar> ^^
[04:06] <spardue> I'm trying to compile a program and I've got a configure.in.in file, yet ./configure shows "no file or directory"
[04:06] <metres> erisco : personnaly I have installed the 8.31.5 driver... the 8.32.5 bugged for me and the 8.33.6 didnt load...
[04:06] <BenPA> the ndiswrapper says hardware installed yes
[04:06] <naxxtor> which is free to download but it doesn't have a built in feature to make "new" machines
[04:07] <erisco> metres, this seems really chancy...
[04:07] <metres> erisco : yes your link have the same installation procesure...
[04:07] <erisco> metres, I have graphical display, but there was a 3D game that worked seamlessly before that now is really laggy
[04:07] <erisco> metres, so is it right in thinking I need a different driver?
[04:07] <Rappermas> alright, the windows channel is all n00bs, how do you recover a Windows XP administrator password?
[04:07] <Rappermas> or how do you reset it at least?
[04:07] <Pici> hah
[04:08] <Rappermas> in *nix
[04:08] <Rappermas> it's easy
[04:08] <Rappermas> single user mode
[04:08] <Pici> I'll send you a link Rappermas, let me find it
[04:08] <PwndMopar> Rappermas, secking the plug.
[04:08] <spardue> Please help!! I'm trying to compile a program and I've got a configure.in.in file, yet ./configure shows "no file or directory"
[04:08] <metres> erisco : with th 8.28 driver I had 250 fps and with the 8.31.5 I have 3000 fps... so I think it's right...
[04:08] <naxxtor> never mind about tvtime
[04:08] <PwndMopar> spardue, calm down.
[04:08] <PwndMopar> We probably don't know
[04:08] <mena> Pici, okay
[04:08] <PwndMopar> That's why we're not saying anything.
[04:08] <wastrel> Rappermas:  prtk i believe it's called
[04:08] <Pici> http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/
[04:09] <erisco> metres, and if these changes are not what I wanted... is it easy to reverse?
[04:09] <BenPA> can anyone tell me how to get wireless pc card to work in ubuntu 6.06 ... I have the ndiswrapper installed and says hardware is installed ... do I have to just set up a network connection?  Please help
[04:09] <Rappermas> oh I see
[04:09] <Rappermas> this is a little more involved than linux
[04:09] <Rappermas> alright, thanks for the link--linux people are always more helpful :)
[04:09] <PwndMopar> BenPA, upgrade to Edgy :P
[04:09] <BenPA> I just upgraded to Dapper lol
[04:10] <Pici> Do you see a wireless connection under "sudo iwconfig"?
[04:10] <BenPA> hold a sec pici
[04:10] <metres> erisco : it's not quite easy but it is doable...
[04:10] <erisco> metres, I am nervous, is all
[04:10] <Wrongway> I just installed ubuntu on my new harddrive. how can I access my 2nd drive? it's my old storage drive for windows, so it's NTFS and is not bootable
[04:11] <Rappermas> alright, how do you reset a BIOS to the factory default state?  is it just pulling out the mobo battery?
[04:11] <erisco> metres, I am not really hard-core at this stuff... and I've got valuable work on here
[04:11] <fab5freddy> anybody use ubuntu on amd64 here?
[04:11] <metres> fab5freddy : me
[04:11] <BenPA> pici none listed
[04:11] <Ferret> Rappermas: And the power, and leaving it for some time (as much as 24 hours) for residual power to die... or you could check the manual to see where the reset jumper on the motherboard is
[04:11] <fab5freddy> metres: are you able to view Yahoo! Video?
[04:11] <metres> fab5freddy :kubuntu sorry
[04:12] <Rappermas> wow, 24 hours
[04:12] <metres> fab5freddy : i use a chroot32bit for my firefox...
[04:12] <Rappermas> i think i'd rather jump it
[04:12] <turncom> I'm new at this. I have Ubuntu 6.06, and SAMBA. I was using the printer attached to this machine from my 2 WinXP's. Then I rebooted my Ubuntu box. Now, my
[04:12] <fab5freddy> metres: Do you have a link to a good how to/tutorial?
[04:12] <PwndMopar> BenPA, do you know for sure that it's correctly installed in the machine?
[04:12] <turncom> Now my WinXP boxes can't see the printers. What the hey?
[04:12] <fab5freddy> metres: are you 6.06 or 6.10?
[04:12] <metres> fab5freddy : are you french speaker ?
[04:13] <metres> fab5freddy : 6.10
[04:13] <fab5freddy> metres: nope, english and i use 6.06
[04:13] <BenPA> pwndmopar I installed it myself and the box is open
[04:13] <PwndMopar> Poke it with a screw driver

[04:13] <PwndMopar> :P
[04:13] <PwndMopar> Anywas
[04:13] <metres> erisco : do "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" return a line with vesa ?
[04:13] <BenPA> it works on the other side of the dual boot
[04:13] <PwndMopar> Did you have windows on that machine before?
[04:13] <BenPA> lol
[04:13] <PwndMopar> Ah, I see.
[04:13] <PwndMopar> Ok.
[04:13] <PwndMopar> I've had the same problem
[04:13] <Rappermas> lol, i'm watching the bill gate keynote--with apple, you're like, okay, steve jobs introduced the apple tv and the iphone...with gates, you're going...wtf was that last hour all about anyway?
[04:14] <PwndMopar> And I never got it fixed :P
[04:14] <PwndMopar> So, I'll wait for your answer :P
[04:14] <PwndMopar> Although
[04:14] <BenPA> please dont tell me that
[04:14] <elyon> Is it possible to remove some default applications that are installed with kubuntu-desktop?  I've tried apt-get remove, but doing so will remove kdebase and such.  I'm specifically interested in removing apps such as Kmail, konqueror, etc..
[04:14] <fab5freddy> metres: are you from quebec?
[04:14] <metres> fab5freddy : yes sir :)
[04:14] <PwndMopar> I have a wireless connection listed under iwconfig
[04:14] <mackin> i give up
[04:14] <fab5freddy> metres: me too, it's nice to know other quebec ubuntu users, everybody i know uses windows
[04:14] <CyberCod> mackin whas up?
[04:14] <mackin> i was destined for windowz
[04:15] <PwndMopar> winblows
[04:15] <mackin> :*(
[04:15] <CyberCod> no, its not screwed... we just need to do a little investigatin
[04:15] <mackin> lol
[04:15] <PwndMopar> Ubuntu is just a litttler ahrd to get used to
[04:15] <Rappermas> i gots my solaris 10 kit coming in the mail
[04:15] <PwndMopar> Takes time.
[04:15] <Wrongway> can someone help me access my 2nd harddrive?
[04:15] <Rappermas> gonna upgrade my redhat 7 server
[04:15] <Rappermas> YEAH!
[04:15] <BenPA> can i set up a network interface?
[04:15] <PwndMopar> Man, that sentence came out so bad.
[04:15] <moocowmoocowmoo> well 5 minutes until this crontab runs, hope it works
[04:15] <johnt> Hi all
[04:15] <mackin> ok hold up ill set the other computer up
[04:15] <fab5freddy> metres: i am not an expert, and have so many problems, i can't watch Yahoo Video! or mlb.tv
[04:15] <CyberCod> mackin you get the PM?
[04:15] <mackin> no
[04:16] <metres> fab5freddy : nice, so you understand french a bit ?
[04:16] <kazuka> I dont want to leave ubuntu but it gives me no choice. every time i move windows X crashes in this computer. I have that same problem before can someone help me
[04:16] <mackin> ill sawp my drive again, hook up my other pc, then log backinto irc
[04:16] <grndslm> anybody know why my track/touchpad will not select text by double tapping the pad & dragging my finger??  double clicking is no problem, and selecting with the button is no problem...but I'd like to not have to use the left-click button
[04:16] <fab5freddy> metres: oui, est ce que ubuntu-fr meilleure?
[04:16] <BenPA> somebody has got to have it working under dapper
[04:16] <kazuka> i but in 6.06 it doesnt do that
[04:16] <mackin> so...ill brb
[04:16] <PwndMopar> My kitten just put my computer into standby D;
[04:16] <CyberCod> ok
[04:16] <seeb> meilleur
[04:16] <metres> fab5freddy : dont know but the chroot tutorial is nice and clean...
[04:17] <ves_> anyone familiar with this error?
[04:17] <ves_> Jan 15 04:03:31 lappie gconfd (root-5317): GConf server is not in use, shutting down.
[04:17] <johnt> I am getting a 403 when I try to apt-get update i think the sonic wall blocker is to blame what is your opinion??
[04:17] <metres> fab5freddy : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/chroot32bits
[04:17] <metres> fab5freddy : firefox have some problem with 64 bit...
[04:18] <ves_> this seems to prevent synaptic from properly installing apps
[04:18] <Thialfihar> Hallo-a.
[04:18] <seeb> hi everyone, does anybody know the way to restau
[04:18] <Wrongway> in my disks manager, the status for my 2nd harddrive is Inaccessible, and the Enable button doesn't do anything, can anyone help?
[04:18] <fab5freddy> metres: je essaye
[04:18] <Pici> seeb, sudo restart ?
[04:18] <metres> fab5freddy : good luck
[04:19] <seeb> restore an harddrive wich was scratched and now appear as an 78 GO unallocated ?
[04:19] <minerale> I have dhcp setup on my wireless router and I have several pcs laying arund, I would like to be able to referr to them by name, how can I set it up?
[04:19] <Pici> oh
[04:19] <turncom> Is this a good place to talk about SAMBA and printing?
[04:19] <seeb> Pici :) little prob while typing sorry
[04:19] <Thialfihar> This might not be Ubuntu related at all... but maybe someone had a similar problem: I'm trying to write some socket stuff with Flex, and it works if it is running far away and connecting to my machine, but running it here and having it connect to localhost makes it drop the connection very soon. Could that be any network settings that are dodgy?
[04:19] <Pici> I see that now :p
[04:19] <johnt> anyone know why I am getting a 403 when I try to apt-get update i think the sonic wall blocker is to blame what is your opinion??
[04:19] <Flannel> minerale: the easiest method would be to set them all to static IPs and then modify your HOSTS file
[04:19] <Thialfihar> I also thought about my router as the culprit, but I see no clever ways to test and investigate this.
[04:20] <seeb> any testdisk expert around ??
[04:20] <Pici> johnt, have you done anything to your sources.list?
[04:20] <minerale> flannel: I have a couple notebooks and it would be a bitch to turn it on and off, what are my choices, what protocols can I look into ?
[04:21] <Wrongway> is it safe to say no one here knows how to help me?
 it was working fine until I got to this ip adress with the blocker on it
[04:21] <Flannel> minerale: well, you'll need to setup a DNS server then, for your local intranet
[04:21] <kitche> Wrongway: is the second hard drive have a partition on it which format?
[04:21] <seeb> wrongway : sounds more safe to think thatwe re flooded
[04:21] <noobcook> hey
[04:21] <minerale> flannel: is there no other way? something similar to WINS
[04:21] <Pici> johnt, then it sounds like you've answered your own question
[04:22] <Wrongway> kitche: it's NTFS
[04:22] <PatrickBic> can i "convert" a debian to an ubuntu by changing the source list and making a dist-upgrade?
[04:22] <noobcook> ive installed enemy territory but theres a problem, the program punkbuster is needed for play this is all very well accept that wen punkbuster is enabled it writes a file to /usr/loca/games/et accept since im not root it cant write and punkbuster has a failure
[04:22] <noobcook> any ideas
[04:22] <Flannel> minerale: WINS is basically a DNS
[04:22] <Wrongway> seeb: yeah, was figuring that
[04:22] <kitche> Wrongway: ok open up a terminal and type sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/<dev> /media/mount-point see if it gets mounted
[04:22] <seeb> wrongway sounds like i have sort of same problem as ive lost 2 partsand have now onlyan unallocated 78 Go
[04:22] <Flannel> minerale: infact, as of W2k, WINS is deprecated in favor of DNS
[04:23] <Flannel> minerale: but, sure, samba can act as a WINS server
 I thought so I just wanted confimation
[04:23] <minerale> flannel: any tutorials to setting up internal dns ?
[04:23] <Vigo> Greetings
[04:23] <minerale> flannel: how about NetBIOS ?
[04:23] <PwndMopar> o hai
[04:24] <Flannel> minerale: WINS is MS's netbios Name server ;)
[04:24] <Wrongway> kitche: bash: dev: No such file or directory
[04:25] <kitche> Wrongway what is the drive it's /dev/<drive> by the way not just dev
[04:25] <minerale> flannel: is there some package I can setup to enable my computer to operate as a netbios server?
[04:25] <johnt> Thanks  bye
[04:25] <Wrongway> aah, ok
[04:25] <PatrickBic> can i "convert" a debian to an ubuntu by changing the source list and making a dist-upgrade?
[04:25] <Flannel> minerale: no idea.  Your google-fu would be as good as mine in that case.    You might look into setting up Samba as a wINS thing though
[04:25] <seeb> kitche : does it sound fair that testdisk just find the liveCD while the disk utilities find my 'broken' hardrive'?
[04:25] <Flannel> PatrickBic: not safely.  It may work, might not
[04:26] <kitche> seeb: don't know I use a 3rd party cd for all my testing it does memory and such pretty techinal cd
[04:26] <PwndMopar> It's taking almost 6 hours to upgrade to drapper :P
[04:27] <[e] nin> Anyone have trouble installing Ubunto on a Dell Dimension (with a secondary video card), where after the initial install menu, the screen dissippears? :x
[04:27] <[e] nin> er ubuntu* :P
[04:27] <HardOCP_Boyko> Hey guys.
[04:27] <PwndMopar> o hai
[04:28] <wesside> *yawn*
[04:28] <moocowmoocowmoo> why is it that when i run a shell script manually it works fine, but when put in crontab it doesnt do its job?
[04:28] <Wrongway> kitche: I got a little further this time, it asked for my password, and now says mount: mount point /media/mount-point does not exist
[04:28] <HardOCP_Boyko> I've just submitted my final draft to my editor for approval.  30 Days of Ubuntu is completed.
[04:28] <Flannel> Wrongway: does it exist?
[04:28] <kitche> Wrongway: /media/mount-point can be anything
[04:28] <kitche> Wrongway: /media/win
[04:28] <kitche> Wrongway: you just have to make that folder first with sudo mkdir /media/win
[04:29] <seeb> Does anyone know a recovering software available on synaptc pack?
[04:29] <moocowmoocowmoo> i checked crontab -l and it says its set to run but doesnt
[04:29] <dm> Anyone know of a better movie player for firefox, totem sux
[04:29] <riotkittie> mplayer?
[04:29] <bruenig> dm, what is the problem?
[04:29] <erisco> yay! the driver worked! I've got my computer back! and finally a larger res at that
[04:29] <Wrongway> gotcha... I've never used the terminal before, just installed ubuntu this week
[04:29] <h3xis> dm, vlc
[04:29] <kamui> Im having some odd bandwith issues, is there a tool I can use to see exactly what bandwith and connections are being made on my server?
[04:29] <wesside> Cybercod
[04:29] <bruenig> dm, totem-xine
[04:30] <wesside> u still around?
[04:30] <dm> h3xis how to i install vlc plugin for firefox?
[04:30] <kamui> preferably a tool i can setup as a web
[04:30] <h3xis> dm,  i dont know if there is one
[04:30] <kamui> webpage, like webmin
[04:30] <bruenig> the vlc plugin is awful
[04:30] <dm> h3xis then why did you suggest it
[04:30] <h3xis> kamui, why dont you set up webmin?
[04:30] <wastrel> !webmin
[04:30] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:30] <dm> bruenig totem has problems loading most videos on th enet, and crashes all the time
[04:30] <bruenig> dm, oh are you talking about firefox plugins or media players?
[04:30] <Pici> Theres an mplayer plugin for firefox, but it doesnt work easliy with ff2.0, afaik
[04:31] <Gunslinger|Deags> flannel are you still around
[04:31] <bruenig> dm, for plugin, go with mozilla-mplayer
[04:31] <h3xis> wtf
[04:31] <Flannel> Gunslinger|Deags: nope, not I.
[04:31] <Gunslinger|Deags> ok cool
[04:31] <wesside> CyberCodu here?
[04:31] <dm> bruenig hmm
[04:31] <prestocaso> i have a question about a amd64 turion processor and which ubuntu version to use
[04:31] <h3xis> that's stupid. webmin is good.
[04:31] <kitche> h3xis: webmin is a big security risk to even have installed
[04:31] <h3xis> why
[04:31] <Flannel> prestocaso: do you want to run 32 or 64 bit?
[04:31] <Gunslinger|Deags> well i got that installer u wanted me to use the alternate cd to scan the cd and it got past that step then froze
[04:31] <Gunslinger|Deags> where before it didnt do anyway before freezing
[04:31] <riotkittie> because little gnomes live inside and pound holes in it with their wee little picks
[04:31] <Flannel> Gunslinger|Deags: which step?
[04:32] <Gunslinger|Deags> the scanning cd step
[04:32] <prestocaso> ive heard 64 bit version isnt as stable and has more limitations??
[04:32] <Flannel> Gunslinger|Deags: so, it ended with a success message?
[04:32] <riotkittie> actaully. that is not true. but i imagine that was obvious. to most of you :P
[04:32] <vik> is there a command that will tell me what resolutions my graphics card supports?
[04:32] <dm> h3xis there is a VLC plugin, just found it
[04:32] <Gunslinger|Deags> no
[04:32] <Gunslinger|Deags> it just is froze there now
[04:32] <bruenig> dm, it is awful
[04:32] <Gunslinger|Deags> on a blue and silver screen blank
[04:32] <h3xis> dm, okay. i dont know how stable it works so dont kill me if it messes up
[04:32] <Gunslinger|Deags> any ideas?
[04:32] <Flannel> prestocaso: stability is fine.  limitations are only when dealing with closed things (flash, etc) that can't simply be recompiled
[04:32] <Flannel> prestocaso: or at least, by us
[04:32] <dm> bruenig anything would be better than totem atm
[04:32] <h3xis> kitche, why is webmin unsafe?
[04:33] <bruenig> dm, I just gave you the best one, mozilla-mplayer
[04:33] <Flannel> Gunslinger|Deags: have you tried on a second computer/Cdrom?
[04:33] <BrettMeister> Anyone know how to get the cool new four desktops in transparant box feature going that I've seen shots of?
[04:33] <dm> bruenig ill try it thanks
[04:33] <prestocaso> also what would i lose flannel by going 32 bit
[04:33] <Flannel> BrettMeister: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:33] <bruenig> !beryl | BrettMeister
[04:33] <ubotu> BrettMeister: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:33] <Gunslinger|Deags> no because its a laptop i have not
[04:33] <riotkittie> beryl? oye.
[04:33] <Flannel> prestocaso: you'd be using your 64bit processor as a 32bit one.  other than that, nothing.
[04:34] <Gunslinger|Deags> i dont really wanna mess up my one working linux computer that iw ill have to use if i cant get my laptop to work
[04:34] <kamui> so no ideas?
[04:34] <Flannel> Gunslinger|Deags: all you're doing is checking the CD, it won't screw anything up anywhere
[04:34] <kamui> h3xis: I would but i was told never to use webmin in ubuntu ever ever evr
[04:34] <Gunslinger|Deags> ok
[04:34] <Flannel> Gunslinger|Deags: not boot the installer, just check the CD
[04:34] <Gunslinger|Deags> alright
[04:34] <Gunslinger|Deags> lemme try that on this laptopt again
[04:35] <Gunslinger|Deags> if that doesnt work ill try it on this other comp
[04:35] <h3xis> kamui, i see no reason not to. i, along with a lot of other people, have been using it for years on servers. i dont run ubuntu (slackware) but i have had no problems. i've yet to see a valid excuse to not use it
[04:35] <Wrongway> kitche: ok, it's mounted, but now it's telling me I don't have the permissions to view it, and cannot change the permissions because I'm not the owner
[04:36] <kamui> h3xis: I loved it, but I have no idea why not either, maybe its not compatible with teh new tree, well, I guess I see no harm in trying it, this is a personal
[04:36] <prestocaso> so with the 64 bit version it wouldnt support flash, what about other formats any other big losses
[04:36] <bruenig> prestocaso, java
[04:37] <dm> bruenig i installed it, but its still trying to load totem
[04:37] <Gunslinger|Deags> ok its checking ill let it sit and see how far it gets for awhile ill br back
[04:37] <h3xis> kamui, i'm not bitching at you just so you know, but i dont understand what everyones' deal with it is. so ubuntu/debian doesnt support it. big damn deal. it doesn't take any effort to download the source and build it
[04:37] <bruenig> dm, sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[04:37] <prestocaso> any word on when 64 bit will have full support for everything
[04:37] <rscheckler> hello all
[04:37] <prestocaso> hello
[04:37] <dm> bruenig ah, couldnt find what it was listed as.
[04:37] <bruenig> !hi | rscheckler
[04:37] <ubotu> rscheckler: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:37] <dm> bruenig will i have to restart firefox
[04:38] <bruenig> dm, yeah
[04:38] <seeb> any idea about a software that could find files in unallocated harddrive space ??
[04:38] <bruenig> files are on unallocated hard drive space?
[04:38] <seeb> recently turned inallocated space*
[04:38] <bruenig> ah
[04:38] <seeb> :)
[04:38] <kitche> Wrongway: you can use umask is the safest way or add the drive to your /etc/fstab and have it so user can access it though that
[04:38] <Vigo> prestocasao: AMD64?
[04:39] <prestocaso> yes vigo
[04:39] <kamui> h3xis: Im a slackman myself, but when it comes to ubuntu and debian in general, its easy to break the package manager by installing incompatible stuff, so where applicable, I tend to take the advice of those who state taht its not a good idea to do certain things.  Of course, when something can be installed fully self contained, its another story altoghether :)
[04:39] <Flannel> prestocaso: whenever the people holding the keys to that software stuff decide to make 64bit versions
[04:39] <h3xis> kamui, webmin is self contained as far as i know
[04:39] <seeb> ive  done a restoration and then powerfailure ->and 2 parts C & D turned in one unallocated space
[04:39] <kitche> kamui: debian/ubuntu doesn't support webmin anymore due to all the exploits for it that you don't need a login for
[04:40] <prestocaso> what im thinking is if i should go with 32 bit for now and wait until 64 bit gets full support
[04:40] <Vigo> presttocaso: The Herd2 Fiesty has an AMD 54, and so does Edgy. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-2/
[04:40] <prestocaso> so flsh and java arent supported in windows either
[04:40] <Flannel> prestocaso: windows isn't 64bit
[04:41] <bruenig> amd 54, hmmm
[04:41] <seeb> AMD 54 ? why not 67,3 bit
[04:41] <Pici> 54 is an even number
[04:41] <riotkittie> wow, i havent seen anyone ask about wireless or res in a whole seven minutes. the end is nigh, the end is nigh.
[04:41] <Madpilot> riotkittie, shhh!
[04:41] <h3xis> riotkittie, it will come. have faith
[04:41] <kamui> ok, well Ill use this term to go search for a better tool, thanks for the input gents
[04:41] <kitche> well windows is 64bit but just the kernel nothing else is, just easier to install win2003
[04:41] <crimsun> I'm having trouble with my wifi and my resolution, please help!
[04:41] <dm> bruenig hmm, now whenever i try to access a movie it tells me (no video)
[04:41] <riotkittie> i want a pi bit, myself
[04:41] <seeb> by the way i wonder why the wifi isnt detected :)
[04:42] <prestocaso> ok so my new laptop with xp preinstalled is not supporting 64 bit??
[04:42] <bruenig> dm, put about:plugins in the firefox address bar, what does it say about video plugins
[04:42] <prestocaso> dont give a rats ass about xp mind you
[04:42] <prestocaso> or the vista upgrade
[04:42] <bruenig> no wireless or graphics card, this channel will certainly shutdown within the hour
[04:42] <Flannel> prestocaso: that's correct
[04:42] <seeb> but truelly, on my first day on hollidays ive lost all the job on laptopi was supposed to do while abroad
[04:43] <prestocaso> wow id assumed it did
[04:43] <dm> bruenig hmm they moved where plugins were in 2.0.. one sec having trouble finding them
[04:43] <seeb> so if someone know a way to recover file in a 'unallocated' drive
[04:43] <SilentDis> hello :)
[04:43] <prestocaso> there is a windows 64 bit os isnt there?
[04:44] <seeb> i'll be more relax next days
[04:44] <seeb> suypposed to yes
[04:44] <bruenig> dm, put about:firefox in the address bar, what does it say, not hard. Open firefox, go to about:firefox and look, should be no difficulty
[04:44] <bruenig> about:plugins*
[04:44] <riotkittie> wahhh. my favourite firefox extension stopped working :\
[04:44] <shadowhywind> hay all a quick question, take for example the konsole command ifconfig | grep 'Link' .. Is there another konsole command that i could add that would ignore the line with lo
[04:44] <bruenig> ietab
[04:44] <Vigo_> Ubuntu 6.10 here has the AMD64 also,,,,http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[04:44] <dm> bruenig the URL is not valid
[04:44] <bruenig> dm, about:plugins
[04:45] <h3xis> prestocaso, yes
[04:45] <dm> bruenig ahhhh
[04:45] <h3xis> prestocaso, there is a windows xp 64 bit edition
[04:45] <netw3rkd> can I get some help on something?
[04:45] <wastrel> !ask | netw3rkd
[04:45] <ubotu> netw3rkd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:45] <netw3rkd> ah ok good.
[04:45] <netw3rkd> you know damn small linux, right?
[04:45] <netw3rkd> it has the text based gkrellm like program.
[04:45] <dm> bruenig says i have all formats enabled, some with VLC, some with Mplayer
[04:45] <bruenig> !enter
[04:45] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:45] <netw3rkd> or is it gkrellm?
[04:46] <Flannel> prestocaso: only technically.  And it has less support than linux 64bit
[04:46] <bruenig> dm, remove vlc
[04:46] <bruenig> dm, sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-vlc
[04:46] <wastrel> text based gkrellm.   some system monitor proggy that is cli based
[04:46] <wastrel> ncurses mebby
[04:46] <wastrel> i dunno
[04:46] <dm> bruenig that did the trick, thansk
[04:46] <netw3rkd> ok, you know how I can setup that on my ubuntu? or where I can get a tutorial?
[04:46] <EnsignRedshirt> !pcmcia
[04:47] <prestocaso> correct me if im wrong vigo or others but if i use 64 bit ubuntu it would work fine but id not have support for flash and jave which for me would suck
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <h3xis> netw3rkd, gkrellm or the text based thing?
[04:47] <riotkittie> uhh.
[04:47] <netw3rkd> the text based thing, it runs in the windows manager on the background
[04:47] <bruenig> prestocaso, you are right, no flash and java, there is a way to do it, but it is not native
[04:47] <dm> bruenig im so tired :X sorry for buggin ya, and actin like a tard :)
[04:47] <Vigo_> !java
[04:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:47] <riotkittie> on the background? desktop background?
[04:48] <Flannel> !chroot | prestocaso they end up using this
[04:48] <ubotu> prestocaso they end up using this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:48] <prestocaso> but not to feel to badly that would be the sme as going with the installed os but now i know
[04:48] <netw3rkd> yes the desktop background.
[04:48] <riotkittie> netw3rkd: conky ?
[04:48] <netw3rkd> what's conky?
[04:48] <makuseru> is there a sound frequency generator in ubuntu
[04:48] <EnsignRedshirt> When I boot in dapper, I see a message about "... pcmcia-cs .... failed".  How do I prevent it from trying to do pcmcia stuff? This is a desktop computer, not a laptop.
[04:48] <riotkittie> nevermiiiiiiind
[04:48] <bruenig> conky is the little system monitory things that runs on the desktop
[04:48] <bruenig> monitor*
[04:48] <Pici> netw3rkd, http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[04:48] <netw3rkd> yes conky is it
[04:49] <netw3rkd> thanks
[04:49] <riotkittie> i rock. yay me.
[04:49] <netw3rkd> heh
[04:49] <netw3rkd> have a good night
[04:49] <prestocaso> i bet nobody even knows all those 64 bit machines running windows in best buy are running in 32 bit mode
[04:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Hmm... /etc/discover.conf has a line that says "enable pcmcia"...
[04:50] <MindFreek> I need some assistance, I need to convert raw AVI to XviD... can anyone help?
[04:50] <bruenig> !avidemux | MindFreek
[04:50] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[04:51] <MindFreek> is there any codecs to install with that? for XviD
[04:51] <bruenig> it should work with xvid
[04:51] <dm> omg the iphone is cool... too bad its with Cingular..
[04:51] <MindFreek> with XviD, how can it encode to XviD without a codec?
[04:51] <bruenig> !offtopic
[04:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Would commenting out the "enable pcmcia" line from /etc/discover.conf be the correct way to get rid of the pcmcia failure message that I get when I boot dapper?
[04:52] <bruenig> MindFreek, I think it can, let me fire mine up and see
[04:52] <wesside> amazing
[04:52] <wesside> CyberCod
[04:52] <MindFreek> bruenig, thanks.
[04:52] <bruenig> MindFreek, yeah it has Xvid4
[04:52] <bruenig> whatever that is
[04:52] <MindFreek> bruenig, thanks... I will check that out
[04:53] <prestocaso> thanks for the help guys i learned somthing i didnt expect to
[04:53] <hahafaha> I am currently trying to install either Debian or Ubuntu on an old computer
[04:53] <PwndMopar> Cool.
[04:53] <Vigo_> Is there a version for the mentally challenged?
[04:53] <makuseru> is there a sound frequency generator in ubuntu
[04:53] <bruenig> Vigo_, Ubuntu Christian Edition
[04:54] <Vigo_> Thank you
[04:54] <hahafaha> It has a 3com etherlink III ethernet card, 200MhZ processor, 256MB of RAM and a 20GB hard disk
[04:54] <Pici> makuseru, Audacity might be able to do it
[04:54] <wastrel> debian
[04:54] <bruenig> wit*
[04:54] <kitche> hahafaha: debian for that 200mhz isn't very fast
[04:54] <hahafaha> Due to installation problems regarding the network, I decided to use an old Live CD of 5.10 that I had lying around
[04:54] <hahafaha> kitche: it's OK, it won't be running X
[04:54] <EnsignRedshirt> bruenig: I don't think that answer would conform to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.
[04:55] <hahafaha> I have a very strange situation now
[04:55] <moocowmoocowmoo> sudo crontab -r
[04:55] <hahafaha> I successfully loaded 3c509, the proper module for the NIC and in /etc/network/interfaces, set up an entry for eth0 with DHCP.
[04:55] <moocowmoocowmoo> oops that was supposed to go in terminal
[04:55] <Vigo_> I have Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy installed on a partition, istall Christian Edition over it will work?
[04:55] <bruenig> the code of contact is so long, I came to linux to get away from the endless EULAs
[04:56] <fab5freddy> how do I restore my ubuntu to the default setting when I first installed?
[04:56] <fab5freddy> I am using Dapper 6.06 amd64
[04:56] <hahafaha> dhclient eth0 causes my router to claim that the computer connected to it (I know that it is that computer because the MAC address matches), but the computer claims that it is not getting any offers
[04:56] <bruenig> fab5freddy, if you are talking about everything back to default, not just say X, then you are probably going to need to reinstall
[04:56] <EnsignRedshirt> bruenig: It's not about licenses, it's about respect.
[04:57] <fab5freddy> bruenig: do you suggest 6.06 or 6.10 for amd64?
[04:57] <hahafaha> So now, I don't know what to do
[04:57] <wastrel> hahafaha:  why not just configure the network manually/
[04:57] <PwndMopar> I'll configure your network manually D;
[04:57] <hahafaha> wastrel : you mean give it a static address?
[04:57] <bruenig> fab5freddy, everyone says 6.06 is more stable, but I am not sure on 64 bit
[04:57] <wastrel> yes
[04:58] <fab5freddy> bruenig: 6.10 doesn't even install for me, i get stuff on a black/white ubuntu screen, cd stops spinning..
[04:58] <hahafaha> wastrel : I tried. ifconfig claims that it has the address, but I am unable to ping anywhere except to localhost
[04:58] <bruenig> fab5freddy, well then 6.06 seems the logical choice
[04:58] <hahafaha> westrel : including <IP_ADDRESS>, which is my router/gateway
[04:58] <marshall> wassap
[04:58] <BenPA> pwndmopar I have news for you about the wireless
[04:59] <fab5freddy> ok thanks
[04:59] <PwndMopar> BenPA, ? :O
[04:59] <Pici> hahafaha, did you just set your ip-address, or did you do the gateway/netmask as well?
[04:59] <marshall> hows it going guys
[04:59] <wastrel> hahafaha:  check the link lights on the ethernet card ?
[05:00] <hahafaha> pici : I did ip address, gateway and netmask
[05:00] <hahafaha> wastrel : the router has the lights on
[05:01] <hahafaha> wastrel : the card does not
[05:01] <BenPA> I am almost there ... I found some info under ubuntu 6.06 I now have a wlan0 showing but no ip and the wireless card is flashing ... can you or someone else tell me what I have to do to connect
[05:01] <hahafaha> wastrel : however, the router is claiming that it is giving it an address of <IP_ADDRESS>, so it has to be connected.
[05:02] <PwndMopar> BenPa, what'd you find? :O
[05:02] <wastrel> try unloading and reloading the module ?
[05:02] <wastrel> i dunno :/
[05:02] <hahafaha> wastrel : I tried it
[05:02] <hahafaha> wastrel : ah well
[05:02] <BenPA> or did I just miss info hold a sec I will get you the link
[05:02] <PwndMopar> Thank you :]
[05:02] <Pici> BenPA, do you know your AP's essid?
[05:02] <PwndMopar> essid = ssid?
[05:02] <Pici> yes
[05:02] <PwndMopar> K <3
[05:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Is this normal? /etc/discover.conf.d contains a link to a nonexistent file: 10linux-sound-base links to /lib/linux-sound-base/ALSA.discover2.conf
[05:03] <Balsamic_Chicken> hi is there any program in ubuntu that allows me to make screen capture shots for videos that I have?
[05:03] <Pici> the argument for my wireless card is called essid, I'm just used to calling it that
[05:03] <PwndMopar> Pici, Ubuntu is used to calling it that too :P
[05:03] <BenPA> I am not sure of the ap's essid where would I find it and what do you mean by essid ... you mean ip?
[05:04] <Flannel> Balsamic_Chicken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[05:04] <PwndMopar> BenPA, essid = your networks name.
[05:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> Flannel thx alot
[05:04] <PwndMopar> I named mine Fred.
[05:04] <PwndMopar> :P
[05:05] <BenPA> pwndmopar see this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[05:05] <i7ch> is there a way to tell apt to never upgrade a particular package, even though there's an update available? i.e. so it stops bothering me about it?
[05:05] <Flannel> !pin | i7ch
[05:05] <ubotu> i7ch: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[05:05] <PwndMopar>  ty
[05:05] <i7ch> thanks Flannel
[05:06] <Vigo> Oh neato, I just have to repair the install I have and can update it  to the CE .
[05:07] <PwndMopar> BenPA, is that for Edgy?
[05:07] <Vigo> Thank you kindly
[05:07] <BenPA> pwndmopar ... network name behind my router? are you saying what is the local ip?
[05:07] <PwndMopar> Ohh, nevermind
[05:07] <PwndMopar> BenPa, what kind of router do you have?
[05:07] <BenPA> dlink
[05:07] <PwndMopar> Can you access the router config from your machine?
[05:07] <BenPA> yes
[05:07] <PwndMopar> Open them up
[05:07] <BenPA> already there
[05:08] <PwndMopar> Somewhere in there you should see ssid :/
[05:08] <BenPA> hold a sec
[05:08] <PwndMopar> I'm not familiar with dlink
[05:08] <Pici> Me either
[05:10] <PatrickBic> hi again
[05:10] <BenPA> ok I found it now what
[05:10] <Pie-rate> almost no one is in #networking, so: I recently moved my computer to a different place on the same LAN, and now it drops a whole bunch of packets for a few seconds every 30 seconds or so. Basically I moved from router -> switch -> 802.11g access point -> 802.11g bridge -> switch -> switch -> computer (worked fine there) to router -> switch -> computer (drops almost all packets for 4-10 seconds every 30-60 seconds). Anyone know what the
[05:10] <Torist> what is the room for ubuntu-server questions?
[05:10] <PatrickBic> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on python2.5-minimal >> how can i get around that?
[05:10] <makuseru> is there a sound frequency generator in ubuntu
[05:11] <Torist> audacity makuseru
[05:11] <makuseru> it dosnt
[05:11] <BenPA> pwndmopar ... ok I found it now what do I do
[05:11] <Torist> get the newest version makuseru
[05:11] <Torist> it has one built in
[05:11] <Torist> its not the repositories yet
[05:11] <makuseru> oh ok
[05:11] <Torist> download it from their website (the deb)
[05:11] <Pici> BenPA, try doing 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "essidname"'
[05:11] <Torist> what is the ubuntu server chat room?
[05:12] <Pici> where essidname is the name of your ssid
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Torist: Here's fine.
[05:12] <Torist> i am trying to setup an email server
[05:12] <makuseru> there is no deb for the new one
[05:12] <Pici> BenPA, do you have wpa or wep enabled?
[05:12] <Torist> what is the easiest server to setup that has a GUI on the setup
[05:12] <PatrickBic> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on python2.5-minimal >> how can i get around that?
[05:13] <NickGarvey> PatrickBic, we need a little bit more info than that
[05:13] <rukuartic> Hey everyone. I had a question about setting up proftpd... I set a user's login shell to /dev/null, and then they can't login to the FTP.
[05:13] <PatrickBic> well.. i make a apt-get dist-upgrade.
[05:13] <NickGarvey> PatrickBic, I have no idea what you aret rying to do etc etc
[05:13] <PatrickBic> and after downloading the debs its printing that.
[05:13] <makuseru> torisst:there is no deb for the new one
[05:13] <NickGarvey> PatrickBic, could you pastebin the entire thing?
[05:13] <Torist> let me give you a link makuseru, one min
[05:13] <makuseru> ok
[05:14] <PatrickBic> NickGarvey: thats a list with about 2500 packages.. and then printing that..
[05:14] <EnsignRedshirt> How do I prevent dapper from trying to initialize nonexistent pcmcia hardware at boot?
[05:14] <pvd2006> Is Edgy Eft more responsive than Dapper Drake?
[05:14] <NickGarvey> EnsignRedshirt, you could chmod -x the entry in /etc/init.d
[05:14] <BenPA> pwndmopar and pici ok I did that ... the card stopped blinking but still no connection ... no wpa or wep enabled
[05:15] <Torist> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/beta/audacity-src/audacity-src-1.3.2.tar.gz
[05:15] <Torist> sorry, its not deb
[05:15] <EnsignRedshirt> NickGarvey: Is that the "correct" way? (Whatever "correct" means...)
[05:15] <Torist> you have to do a "./configure" then "make" then "make install" on it
[05:15] <rukuartic> pvd2006: I found it to be. Depends on your system I suppose.
[05:15] <Pici> BenPA, do a iiwconfig wlan0 , do you see that it has associated itself with an access point?
[05:16] <PatrickBic> NickGarvey: http://rafb.net/p/j9v4TF46.html
[05:16] <CongTu> fuck
[05:16] <NickGarvey> EnsignRedshirt, that is what I do because it is very easy to turn it back on, the better way might be to remove the entire entry from the start up scripts, but I don't know how to do that, let alonoe put it back in (been a while sense I have used ubuntu)
[05:16] <CongTu> :d
[05:16] <CongTu> XD
[05:16] <NickGarvey> !language | CongTu
[05:16] <ubotu> CongTu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:16] <BenPA> pici yes it is
[05:16] <nayara> ola
[05:16] <CongTu> Alo
[05:16] <NickGarvey> PatrickBic, thats very.. not english
[05:17] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> When installing ubuntu will manually setting your partitions boost performance if you set them right?
[05:17] <Torist> anyone know of an email server that has a GUI for easy setup on ubuntu?
[05:17] <Pici> ben42, now do a sudo dhclient wlan0
[05:17] <Pici> er benpa
[05:17] <Pici> too many bens
[05:17] <Pici> <-- also a Ben
[05:17] <BenPA> lol
[05:17] <BenPA> cool
[05:17] <NickGarvey> guess my name!
[05:17] <Pici> Ben!
[05:17] <NickGarvey> you will never get it
[05:17] <NickGarvey> yes!
[05:17] <Torist> asdfjkahsdfjkha - yes, use non journaling partitions to go faster and put the swap at the front of your hard disk
[05:17] <NickGarvey> well, close
[05:17] <BenPA> your name is funny
[05:17] <NickGarvey> you got one letter right
[05:18] <Pici> Woo!
[05:18] <BenPA> ok pici now what
[05:18] <PatrickBic> NickGarvey: i know that its not english
[05:18] <Pici> did it say that you got an Ip address?
[05:18] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, what do you mean by non journaling partitions? and can you give me an example? Because I have a 120gig hd that im on the manual edit table screen right now
[05:18] <PatrickBic> gimme what you dont understand and ill translate it
[05:18] <Torist> ext2 is non-journaling
[05:18] <Torist> it is the only one i know of
[05:18] <Torist> ext3 is not
[05:18] <Wrongway> kitche: can you help me through the umask?
[05:19] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, but ubuntu will work fine with ex2?
[05:19] <Torist> setup the swap to be at the starting area of your HD 0 MB to whatever
[05:19] <Torist> yes
[05:19] <NickGarvey> PatrickBic, lines 430-436, lines 198, 201, and 203
[05:19] <Torist> it will work fine with ext2
[05:19] <PatrickBic> ok.. hold on
[05:19] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, what is a good % of space to use for swap?
[05:19] <Torist> 3 times your physical memory
[05:19] <NickGarvey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, creative name
[05:19] <Torist> but no more than 1 GB
[05:19] <NickGarvey> Torist, 3x is a lot
[05:20] <Pici> BenPA, it should say something like <IP_ADDRESS> offered, sleeping or something I cant remember and if I do it now I'll lose my connection
[05:20] <zurgutt> folks - i have installed qmail from source and now need to make sure that postfix and courier cannot be installed by apt-get by accident - how to do it?
[05:20] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> nickgarvey thanks!!!
[05:20] <Wrongway> or anyone really, help me with umask please
[05:20] <BenPA> pici it does not give me an ip address
[05:20] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist / nickgarvey, I have a 120 gig harddrive with 512MB ram... So a good swap would be... 1.5GB ?
[05:21] <Torist> 1 GB should be enough
[05:21] <NickGarvey> yeah thats what I'd do, but you might not need that much
[05:21] <Torist> 1.5 will work, but probably overkill
[05:21] <rukuartic> Anyone here with Proftpd?
[05:21] <NickGarvey> but it seems you have space to spare so why not
[05:21] <rukuartic> !swap
[05:21] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[05:21] <riotkittie> well, with 120GB, a gig for swap shouldnt be an issue
[05:21] <NickGarvey> rukuartic, I suggest just using sftp which is built into sshd
[05:21] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> but will a bigger swap take away from performance?
[05:21] <NickGarvey> asdfjkahsdfjkha, not at all
[05:21] <riotkittie> better to have it and not need it... :p
[05:21] <rukuartic> NickGarvey: I realize that, but I'm trying to allow customers in with just basic ftp.
[05:21] <Torist> asdfjkah, ur right
[05:21] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> So I can do like a 15% of my hd swap partition and thats fine?
[05:21] <Torist> 1 GB should be max on swap
[05:21] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> oh ok
[05:22] <rukuartic> NickGarvey: I was trying to set their loginshell to /dev/null so they couldn't ssh in (or someone else who sniffed their plaintext) but it doesn't work.
[05:22] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> and a swap is a primary partition?
[05:22] <elyon> Could someone help me get my refresh rate over 60??  My eyes are killing me!
[05:22] <Pici> BenPA, try doing sudo ifup wlan0
[05:22] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, do I set my swap partition to primary or logical ?
[05:23] <Torist> primary
[05:23] <rukuartic> elyon: Should be in System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[05:23] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, thank you :P much help
[05:23] <Torist> np
[05:23] <elyon> rukuartic: Oh, I know WHERE to change it, but 60 is the only option.
[05:23] <Torist> i wish someone in here knew of an easy to setup email server on ubuntu with a setup GUI
[05:23] <rukuartic> elyon: Try setting your resolution to something smaller. You're on a CRT?
[05:23] <BenPA> pici it says interface already configured
[05:23] <PatrickBic> NickGarvey: http://rafb.net/p/5Pvidq91.html
[05:23] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, why do you need a gUI ?
[05:23] <Torist> for easy-ness
[05:23] <Torist> email servers are messy
[05:24] <zurgutt> gui on a server - what for?
[05:24] <Torist> if its command line
[05:24] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, I find gui's harder...
[05:24] <elyon> rukuartic: I believe so, yes.  My resolution is 1024x768...
[05:24] <Torist> lol
[05:24] <Torist> speed
[05:24] <Pici> BenPA, do you have an IP address listed under ifconfig wlan0 ?
[05:24] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ssh + ftp = pwn
[05:24] <Torist> i can access more than one window with speed
[05:24] <NickGarvey> rukuartic, oh I see
[05:24] <elyon> rukuartic: Used to have it running at 75, but after reconfiguring xorg.conf, it stopped offering me that for some reason.
[05:24] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> torist, well I dont know of any :( sry lolz I just know text base
[05:24] <panpan> re
[05:24] <Torist> ok, np, thanx anyhow
[05:24] <rukuartic> NickGarvey: You wouldn't happen to know how to fix that would you?
[05:24] <BenPA> pici yes I do
[05:25] <NickGarvey> PatrickBic, did you try doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade first?
[05:25] <PatrickBic> sure
[05:25] <panpan> quit
[05:25] <MindFreek> I am having issues with AVIs that I encode with Avidemux not playing in VLC... VLC just instantly closes
[05:25] <Pici> BenPA, neat, try going on the internet, or pinging your router/anything
[05:25] <BenPA> pici its working now
[05:26] <BenPA> yoo hoo
[05:26] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> mindfreek, dosent vlc play like... anything?
[05:26] <CyberCod> well, I guess mackin gave up altogether... its almost been an hour and he's not back
[05:26] <MindFreek> asdfjkahsdfjkha, yes it does...
[05:26] <CyberCod> it doesn't seem to play mp4
[05:26] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> lies
[05:26] <elyon> Could someone help me get my refresh rate over 60??  My eyes are killing me!
[05:26] <Pici> Theres a way to have it set the ssid on  boot, but I cant remember the file name
[05:26] <MindFreek> but it is just closing after I encode a RAW AVI to XviD
[05:26] <BenPA> pici is it now set to that so that each time I start up it will work?
[05:27] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> !refresh rate
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about refresh rate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> meh
[05:27] <MrPacific> huzzah
[05:27] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> worth a try
[05:27] <elyon> asdfjkahsdfjkha: Heh, nice try. :)
[05:27] <NickGarvey> I think I'm immune to the refresh rate
[05:27] <NickGarvey> I never get headaches etc anymore
[05:28] <PatrickBic> NickGarvey: any idea how to get around that error?
[05:28] <elyon> NickGarvey: I never ran at 60 before, so I never had a problem... but its driving me crazy.
[05:28] <Pici> Anyone know what the filename is to set your essid at boottime?
[05:28] <NickGarvey> PatrickBic, did you do the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[05:28] <PatrickBic> sure
[05:28] <wastrel> Pici:  /etc/network/interfaces
[05:28] <Pie-rate> I have a networking problem. I recently moved my computer to a different place on the same LAN, and now it drops a whole bunch of packets for a few seconds every 30 seconds or so. Basically I moved from router -> switch -> 802.11g access point -> 802.11g bridge -> switch -> switch -> computer (worked fine there) to router -> switch -> computer (drops almost all packets for 4-10 seconds every 30-60 seconds). It seems like reducing the co
[05:29] <Pici> Thanks
[05:29] <PatrickBic> but.. upgrade fails on auctex
[05:29] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> elyon, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76387
[05:29] <BenPA> pici is it now set to that so that each time I start up it will work?
[05:30] <Pici> BenPA, I dont think so, you may have to look in the file /etc/network/interfaces
[05:30] <elyon> asdfjkahsdfjkha: Not sure I want to try that with an ATI card ;)
[05:30] <Zambezi> I need to change graficcard and then start the computer with another and i don't know how to configure X. Is it possible to access the files on hda1 when running a Live CD so I can make backup to USB-memory and then reinstall?
[05:30] <Pici> BenPA, check for a line that begins "iface wlan0"
[05:31] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> elyon, ah!
[05:31] <BenPA> pici I changed the settings in there but so I have to tell it essid (the name) ?
[05:31] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> elyon, ahttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12570.html
[05:31] <riotkittie> Zambezi: you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from the CLI and that should autoconfig X
[05:32] <Pici> BenPA, if you have a line that says wireless-essid 'essidname' then you should be set
[05:32] <Zambezi> riotkittie, From CLI?
[05:32] <_james> how can i play wmv file and mpg on ubuntu? i try to play it on movie player but it won't play
[05:32] <riotkittie> but yes you can access files on the HD while using a live disc
[05:32] <pissedoffdude> u need to get codecs
[05:32] <riotkittie> bash. term. prompt. command line.
[05:32] <Steve_Laptop> ? how do I delete a dir and everything in it? rm -f * is not working
[05:32] <pissedoffdude> here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:33] <grndslm> I am running Edgy on an ASUS Z35F laptop, and my touchpad doesn't work 100% right...I can't select text without using the left-click button, or drag windows either (i.e. - double tapping & dragging).  Can anybody help?
[05:33] <rukuartic> Zambezi: You should be able to change your graphics card without having to reinstall. It might be a tad difficult but it should work just fine.
[05:33] <riotkittie> Steve_Laptop: rm -Rf ?
[05:33] <BenPA> pici  ... it's actually my neice's pc so where do I set the essid name in the file?
[05:33] <kameron> can anyone help me to get sound working through tvtime, i have a bt878 chipset tv tuner card.
[05:33] <Steve_Laptop> riotkittie, thanks
[05:34] <Zambezi> rukuartic, I'm fairly new to Linux.
[05:34] <Pici> BenPA, my file has a line that says "iface wlan0 inet dhcp"
[05:34] <elyon> asdfjkahsdfjkha: Hehe, I've already searched the forums, bro.  And that last link tells the guy how to get his refresh rate DOWN to 60... I want mine AWAY from 60. ;)
[05:34] <riotkittie> my pleasure
[05:34] <rukuartic> Zambezi: The folks here will help you through it.
[05:34] <spike723> I have 6.10 installed, how can I upgrade to 7.04?
[05:34] <Pici> BenPA, the next line is "wireless-essid myessidname"
[05:34] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> elyon, then just change that value
[05:34] <Zambezi> rukuartic, When I changed the graficcard earlier I couldn't login.
[05:34] <spike723> I have to modify something in /etc and then apt-get upgrade?
[05:34] <rukuartic> Zambezi: Either way, you can access a "command line" by pressing Ctrl+alt+f1 through f6
[05:34] <BenPA> pici that is what I put in my file earlier with the directions I found
[05:34] <elyon> asdfjkahsdfjkha: I'm trying to find the value to change... he didn't get much help there either.
[05:34] <elyon> lol
[05:35] <rukuartic> Zambezi: From there you should be able to login with your username and password.
[05:35] <BenPA> pici oh ok
[05:35] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> elyon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate
[05:35] <Zambezi> rukuartic, But it's hard to be here when both computers are down. I tried that, but when I tried to login the password where "wrong".
[05:35] <rukuartic> Zambezi: did you forget your password?
[05:35] <Grok_> i'm trying to install a linksys wireless card on a laptop running dapper using fwcutter. most documentation assumes that you're connected to the net when you do the install. (apt-get install fwcutter....) is there a way for me to download the files needed and transfer them to this other laptop and do a "local" apt-get install?
[05:35] <Zambezi> rukuartic, Of course not. ;-)
[05:36] <rukuartic> Zambezi: Total worst case if you can't get anything to work, yes a LiveCD will suffice.
[05:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Where is the sources file that I edit for apt-get  /.
[05:36] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> ?
[05:36] <BenPA> pici is it in " " ?
[05:37] <Pici>  /etc/sources.list
[05:37] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> pici thanks
[05:37] <Zambezi> rukuartic, Then I'm going to try to change, but I need to change on my firewall. I really hope that will boot after I change the graficcard.
[05:37] <Pici> BenPA, nope
[05:37] <rukuartic> asdfjkahsdfjkha: no, its /etc/apt/sources.list I'm pretty sure.
[05:37] <Pici> rukuartic, yes, sorry, forgot a directory
[05:37] <rukuartic> Zambezi: What went wrong with your old one?
[05:37] <BenPA> ok let me reboot but I have one more issue
[05:37] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> rukuartic, yeah as soon as I tried it I was like, omgz wtf!!! So I did cd apt and fuond it :P thanks
[05:38] <rukuartic> Pici: :P It doesn't matter.
[05:38] <Zambezi> rukuartic, Break of power probably destoried the harddrive or the installation. Linux won't boot.
[05:38] <Zambezi> rukuartic, So I'm going to try with another graficcard.
[05:38] <dm> anyone know where in beryl i can set the wobly-ness when i move a window?
[05:39] <Pici> dm, i believe its under the animation settings
[05:39] <Zambezi> Cause the one I got is a little bit strange. Now I need to take this computer down so I can take this graficcard and put it in the other.
[05:39] <BenPA> pici .... never mind about the other issue ... it was not shutting down or rebooting there for a minute but now it does
[05:39] <dm> pici checked there : (
[05:40] <rukuartic> Zambezi: Ahhh!
[05:40] <rukuartic> Zambezi: Does Grub start up?
[05:40] <BenPA> pici ... thank you sooooooo much I really appreciate the help you are a "ubuntu life saver"
[05:40] <Zambezi> rukuartic, Yeah. I even tried with a recovery kernel, but that didn't work either.
[05:40] <Pici> BenPA, Sure, no problem
[05:41] <ThePraVa2> ALGXIEN HABLA ESPAOL??
[05:41] <riotkittie> !es | ThePraVa2
[05:41] <ubotu> ThePraVa2: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:41] <rukuartic> Zambezi: Wait, Grub starts up and you get that little menu with choices?
[05:42] <Zambezi> rukuartic, Yes (when I quick enought to press Esc). ;-)
[05:42] <BenPA> pici ... let pwndmopar know that it does work between the link I sent him and what you told me
[05:42] <ThePraVa2> YHANK YOX
[05:42] <rukuartic> Zambezi: Ah, thats a good sign! Your HD might still be in tact.
[05:42] <rukuartic> !caps
[05:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:42] <kameron> can anyone help me to get sound working through tvtime, i have a bt878 chipset tv tuner card.
[05:42] <Pici> I'll let him know
[05:43] <dm> anyone know where in beryl i can set the wobly-ness when i move a window?
[05:43] <Zambezi> rukuartic, Good. I also have problems booting a Live CD. I really would like a new motherboard but it hard to find for socket 478 ATX.
[05:44] <rukuartic> kameron: I don't know how to solve your problem, but I just used a convertor to split a headphone jack to RCA.
[05:44] <rukuartic> Zambezi: =(
[05:44] <_user_> Network-manager-gnome is asking me to create a default-keyring... Does anyone have any info about how it works and if it's safe? (I couldn't find any on the net)
[05:45] <Zambezi> rukuartic, I need to shut down now.  I need to shut down now to try to find the error. Thansk for your time.
[05:46] <Gunslinger|Deags> flannel i have let that scan for for an hour it got to checking disk integrity and stoped on checling file: ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz could this be because i do no have the internet pluged into it?
[05:46] <rukuartic> Zambezi: No problem :3
[05:46] <kameron> rukuartic, i have a CDDA cable from my card to line in on the mobo.
[05:50] <misterme_> How do I install identd? I can't find a package for it
[05:50] <namra> anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot printing problem. Currently, I upgraded from dapper to edgy and now  my officejet 5500 only prints blank pages when clicking on test page button. I've spent a lot of time googling , installing and removing and reinstalling cups, etc. Cups error-log even with level set to debug is uninformative.
[05:52] <noobcook> ive successfully got ATI radeon cards to work under ubuntu with 100% performance open gl and direct x, if anyone wanted to know how just pm me
[05:53] <rukuartic> noobcook: Try writing a tutorial on the forums! People might find it just as useful there, not to mention 24/7 access
[05:54] <noobcook> rukuartic: ok ill see to it when i have time
[05:55] <noobcook> its funny actually i get better fps under linux than windows
[05:55] <bullium> ?
[05:56] <rukuartic> 0:00 EST (in 5 minutes) and alll is weeeellll... ...Except for my FTP server! If anyone has any ideas on how to tweak proftpd to allow /dev/null shell users to log in...
[05:56] <daftman> noobcook: there is no directx with ubuntu
[05:56] <rukuartic> daftman: But there is wine!
[05:56] <daftman> daftman: yea but that's not directx
[05:56] <noobcook> daftman: i mean direct rendering sorry =p
[05:56] <noobcook> miss tell
[05:57] <noobcook> is it safe to run a game in sudo or is it better to chown the director
[05:57] <noobcook> y
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Who owns the directory now?
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: Running a game with sudo doesn't sound like a good idea.
[05:59] <noobcook> EnsignRedshirt: no idea but when i play the game without sudo it cant write files to my hd eg punkbuster updates or map updates
[05:59] <noobcook> alright
[05:59] <Polygon89> Hello, i just upgraded to edgy today and after i installed it (using the live cd, wiped out the root, swap and boot partitions, and reformmated and reinstalled) im getting a "grub error 15: file not found" error when i try to select ubuntu, but the kernel files are in the correct place and i dunno what is wrong. my menu.lst and a link to a picture of my partitons is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1653/
[06:00] <mena> is there a program to make or mount virtul cd
[06:00] <rukuartic> Well here's the facts... If you're on a laptop that only you use, it'll work fine. But speaking as a sysadmin, you should run as little as root as possible.
[06:01] <kitche> mena: mount can mount an iso
[06:01] <Polygon89> noobcook: make sure the game's files are in a directory that you own and have permission to read/write to, then it will be fine
[06:01] <rukuartic> Polygon89: Another workaround fix, You could try using the "Super Grub disk"
[06:01] <mena> kitche, yes
[06:02] <Polygon89> rukuartic, ive tried that in the past and it seems to cause more harm then good. The thing is, i did a fresh REINSTALL, why did the ubuntu installer set up grub wrong???
[06:02] <kitche> mena: mount -o loop /home/<user>/file.iso /mount/point
[06:02] <noobcook> Polygon89: i cant seem to ever get permissions right i even tried chmod 777 and still it doesnt work
[06:02] <mena> kitche, that would mount it automaticly
[06:03] <Polygon89> noobcook: if all else fails, type "gksudo nautilus" or whatever (something different if your running kde or xfce) and then just right click the folder and change the permissions there
[06:03] <mena> kitche, okay i will see
[06:03] <mena> thnaks
[06:03] <Polygon89> noobcook: then close that window as it has root privlages and not good to keep open
[06:03] <noobcook> ok
[06:03] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: What is the directory that the game writes to?
[06:04] <noobcook> /usr/local/games/Enemy territory
[06:04] <Polygon89> so simply change the permissions to "enemy territory"
[06:04] <noobcook> and i used brackets when i was trying 2 apply permissions so it doesnt thing the directory is just games/enemy
[06:04] <noobcook> really
[06:04] <noobcook> ok so chmod 754 enemy territory?
[06:04] <Polygon89> and to type spaces in file names
[06:04] <Polygon89> you do \
[06:05] <Polygon89> so it would be like chmod +777 /usr/local/games/Enemy\ Territory
[06:05] <noobcook> ok
[06:05] <EnsignRedshirt> noobcook: ... and file names are case-sensitive, so "Enemy" is not the same as "enemy"
[06:05] <Polygon89> that too
[06:05] <noobcook> ah yeh ok hangon
[06:08] <noobcook> im gona try get F.E.A.R multiplayer to work on linux
[06:08] <Polygon89> noobcook: according to winehq, that is impossible
[06:08] <noobcook> you dont need to use wine =p
[06:08] <noobcook> im not using wine for ET
[06:08] <Polygon89> fear doesnt have a linux port..
[06:08] <noobcook> just linux install hehe
[06:09] <noobcook> ah
[06:09] <noobcook> ohwell
[06:09] <Polygon89> that is the server
[06:09] <Polygon89> sadly
[06:09] <noobcook> any other good free FPS?
[06:09] <rukuartic> noobcook: you can look at "prboom"
[06:09] <noobcook> ok
[06:09] <Polygon89> nexiuz, cube (saurbraten or something)
[06:09] <rukuartic> and apparently Some castle wolfenstien works on linux
[06:09] <rukuartic> You got it right Polygon89
[06:10] <rukuartic> and bzflag.
[06:10] <Rug> noobcook: have you tried "True Combat Elite" mod for ET?
[06:10] <noobcook> yeh rukuartic if i can get Enemy territory to work thats practically the same as wolfenstien
[06:10] <noobcook> Rug nah i havent is it good
[06:10] <seeb> i ve lost C and D on my harddrive on a laptop now replaced by 74Go unallocated ( switched of while restoring a backup withacronis ) does anybody got a tips within ubuntu ?
[06:10] <Rug> noobcook: very
[06:10] <noobcook> Rug: is there online servers for it?
[06:11] <Polygon89> seeb: if you havent already unplug the drive so nothing gets written to it accidently somehow
[06:11] <Polygon89> seeb: and if you just accidently deleted the partitons you should be able to get everything back, as all the data is still there, just the file table is gone
[06:11] <Rug> noobcook: yes several (not as many as ET)  It's based on realism.  D'load mirrors can be found using google, or you can grab it from my site at o2kewl.net
[06:12] <noobcook> http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=52
[06:12] <noobcook> its there
[06:12] <seeb> polygon89 nothing was written on it since that time, live cd only but laptop harddrive :/ not easy to take off ( never tryed )
[06:12] <noobcook> but is there servers i will be able to play on b4 i commit myself to a 450mb dl?
[06:12] <Rug> yes I said
[06:12] <Polygon89> seeb: ah ok, it should be fine as long as nothing gets written to it and you just deleted the partitions
[06:13] <Polygon89> as for recovery programs, im not sure about as the one i tried didnt seem to work
[06:13] <noobcook> alright
[06:13] <noobcook> most anoying thing is downloading a game and only american servers :\
[06:13] <seeb> polygon wich one was it ?
[06:13] <Polygon89> there were a good number of severs when i tried it
[06:13] <noobcook> hey rukuartic is prboom like doom1?
[06:14] <seeb> i've tryed testdisk but he just find the 660Mo from live CD, altought the Disks utilities find everything
[06:14] <rukuartic> noobcook: yup
[06:14] <noobcook> bah
[06:14] <noobcook> boring
[06:14] <noobcook> Rug: check this out
[06:15] <mena> kitche, If I had wine can i install kubuntu throw ubuntu i mean install kubuntu ((fresh install))
[06:15] <noobcook> http://red.planetarena.org/
[06:15] <mena> kitche, After Mount of course
[06:15] <Polygon89> seeb: i cant seem to find what it was called, but this looks promising: http://servers.linux.com/servers/06/08/21/1558230.shtml?tid=119&tid=13
[06:15] <efuzzyone> hi, how can i make sure that one user is not able to access/read the directories/files of other?
[06:16] <seeb> but as i'm a totalnoob with linux and harddrive system.. i was justwondering if someone knew kind of trick to repair that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1651/
[06:16] <kitche> mena: you mean though virtual disk since to install kubuntu just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:16] <Rug> noobcook: thanks
[06:16] <juano_> what can i get to play wma in xmms?
[06:16] <mena> kitche, No i want to remove ubuntu bec i do that and some conflicts happeneds
[06:16] <erg> allo all
[06:16] <seeb> allo
[06:16] <mena> kitche, i know what you are man but i want to install kubuntu alone
[06:16] <mena> mean
[06:16] <mena> *
[06:17] <kitche> mena: yeah I get it what you want
[06:17] <Polygon89> seeb: although that one i just gave you seems to be for like cameras
[06:17] <mena> <kitche, sorry for saying that but some times people understand me wrong bec my english is not so good
[06:17] <seeb> polygone89 ? did you gave something .. damn have to read back : )
[06:18] <erg> is there a beryl+XGL+ubuntu channel?
[06:18] <z> ?
[06:18] <z> ?
[06:18] <z> hello?
[06:18] <jbroome> !beryl | erg
[06:18] <ubotu> erg: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:19] <mena> kitche, So what is your openion bec i dont have writer now to creat kbuntu cd
[06:19] <seeb> kfind ot yep thats seems card related
[06:19] <erg> thank you
[06:19] <Polygon89> what filesystem were they before you deleted it
[06:19] <EnsignRedshirt> efuzzyone: It *is* strange that in these days when everyone is hyper-aware of privacy issues, linux home directories are usually wide open to all other users.
[06:19] <Polygon89> or lost the partiton or whatever
[06:19] <z> probably ext3 right?
[06:20] <Polygon89> ensignredshirt, i think the default is that you cant open other peoples files in their home directories, i tried that today and it said access denied
[06:20] <seeb> polygon89 FAT32
[06:20] <kitche> mena: install it in vmware or qemu
[06:20] <Polygon89> and you just accidently deleted the partitions?
[06:20] <seeb> and yes testdisk could work as many people said nice things about ( plus available insynaptics packets manager)
[06:21] <z> if you accidently deleted the partitions then you're going to start to start all over
[06:21] <mena> kitche, yes so how throw it ^_^ if you would telling me
[06:21] <mena> soryy &tell
[06:21] <juano_> what can i get to play .wma in xmms?
[06:21] <seeb> but ... only one part found the cd boot, might be a way to force the detection but ilm really to novice to understand that
[06:21] <mena> *
[06:21] <pvd2006> hey everyone
[06:21] <z> does anyone have a ppc computer with broadcam wireless and have it working?
[06:21] <mena> kitche, i have vmware
[06:22] <Polygon89> seeb: testdisk seems like an excelent choice
[06:22] <Polygon89> seeb: except, you are going to need another drive
[06:22] <EnsignRedshirt> Polygon89: Actually, it appears that the default is to allow read access.
[06:22] <Polygon89> seeb: hmm, i guess i must of changed something then
[06:22] <Polygon89> err not seeb, ensign
[06:22] <Polygon89> lol
[06:23] <seeb> polygon, i ll explain you, i have a laptop acer with one harddrive and 2 fat 32 parts C and D, then acer laptop have anhidden part for factory reset ( correct ? ) then i've used acronis backup and this one created a new hidden unaccessible part, to store image
[06:23] <seeb> while restauring the image within acronis i had a power failure
[06:23] <seeb> and that's it
[06:23] <EnsignRedshirt> efuzzyone: Here is a less than perfect way to fix this:  In the directory /home, give the command: chmod o-rx userdir
[06:24] <yukonho> z: if it's for a macbook, maybe check out http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml
[06:24] <nexact> hello, I've installed slocate and I'm trying to use database of my other server but everytime I'm trying to find a files in it(locate --database=server.db *) it's saying Could not find user database '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db':  No such file or directory... then I did slocate -u.. and redid my command and it's looking in MY database.. not in the one i've specified, someone know why ?
[06:24] <seeb> now i have like an unallocated 74 Go looks like C and D and 2 others stuff that are probably the acer recovery and the acronis recovery
[06:24] <seeb> both exotix format
[06:24] <humblerodent> anyone here have any experience with XGL / Compiz?
[06:24] <z> thanks, but its for a powerbook so I'm running the old architecture
[06:24] <mena> ! vmware
[06:24] <ubotu> vmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:24] <seeb> polygon89 i have anusb 300Go that may help for recovery
[06:24] <humblerodent> I have it running, but I'm not getting a lot of features like alt+tab and the desktop cube
[06:25] <z> XGL looks great
[06:25] <Polygon89> seeb: ok that will work, cause your are most likely going to need another hard drive to store all the files that come off of the hard drive that got screwed up
[06:25] <humblerodent> but it seems fine other than that, and I get no errors.  Can anyone help?
[06:25] <z> I don't know how to do it though
[06:25] <EnsignRedshirt> efuzzyone: One reason that that method is less than perfect is that it means a user can't put personal web pages in public_html.  But that only matters if are using that feature of a web server.
[06:25] <Polygon89> seeb: so hook up that hard drive, run testdisk and see if you can get your data back
[06:26] <seeb> Polygon89, i just cant get testdisk detect anything else than the CD boot
[06:26] <seeb> althought, the Disks utility within ubuntu detects everythin,g ?
[06:27] <DaHood2> hello
[06:27] <DaHood2> are 872 people there?
[06:27] <seeb> yep
[06:27] <Polygon89> 871
[06:27] <riotkittie> argh.
[06:27] <DaHood2> cool
[06:27] <seeb> and 823 sleepers
[06:27] <Polygon89> anyway, i dont know anything about testkdisk...
[06:27] <EnsignRedshirt> DaHood2: Now don't go starting some sort of roll call...
[06:27] <DaHood2> i had ubuntu 64 once
[06:27] <DaHood2> for my AMD
[06:28] <DaHood2> worked ok
[06:28] <riotkittie> i was trying to set up cloned screens between my laptop and CRT and gave up because i was getting nowhere. now when i go into gnome from a tty... i am getting two miniature screens on the CRT for a moment
[06:28] <seeb> polygon89 ok then thanks a lot anyway :)
[06:28] <riotkittie> then it goes back to normal
[06:29] <riotkittie> i wonder if i should see this as progress, albeit in a completely useless way
[06:29] <EnsignRedshirt> riotkittie: Are you sure? Maybe you have been sitting in front of the computer too long...
[06:29] <riotkittie> EnsignRedshirt: oh i'm positive :P