[00:00] <sourcemaker> stdin: the current live cd is not working for me... there are too much bugs... so I think... how should it be possible to fix all this bugs until mid jan:-)
[00:01] <stdin> because the kde devs will work hard
[00:01] <LinuxReign> unless you have a testing system u should the same
[00:01] <mrdigital> question i have a hd video card are there linux drivers for that?
[00:01] <LinuxReign> hd video card?
[00:01] <mrdigital> yes
[00:01] <mrdigital> Video Card Capable of HD Content
[00:01] <mrdigital> Video out can do 720P
[00:01] <LinuxReign> well, is it a n Ati or nvidia one?
[00:02] <mrdigital> nvidia (EVGA)
[00:02] <Artimus> How can I enable the suspend/hibernate buttons in KDE on a desktop?
[00:02] <LinuxReign> there is 2 ways mrdigital
[00:02] <FireHazard17> I bought a dvd how do I get it to play? I have tried mplayer and vlc so far.
[00:02] <FireHazard17> both utterly fail
[00:02] <FireHazard17> and those are the ones I resort to last after all else fails
[00:02] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: explain
[00:03] <dmcglone> Firehazard17 have you installed the codecs?
[00:03] <LinuxReign> the first one is installing the nvidia-glx-new package through Adept
[00:03] <FireHazard17> Yes?
[00:03] <FireHazard17> lemme check
[00:03] <mrdigital> ok
[00:03] <LinuxReign> the second one will be the best on my opinion
[00:03] <FireHazard17> do you know the package name?
[00:03] <mrdigital> can you pm me the steps so i can copy n paste into email
[00:03] <dmcglone> i'm trying to remember
[00:04] <dmcglone> I usually use kaffeine and when I put a dvd in it automatically installes the required codecs to play dvd's
[00:04] <LinuxReign> mrdigital, I would strongly suggest yuo check this site, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[00:04] <stdin> !envy
[00:04] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:04] <stdin> don't use it
[00:04] <FireHazard17> !dvd
[00:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:05] <dmcglone> there is it
[00:05] <dmcglone> :-)
[00:05] <FireHazard17> :p
[00:05] <mrdigital> stdin: dont use what?
[00:05] <LinuxReign> i'm getting better results with envy over the binary package so far, that's my opinion
[00:05] <dmcglone> I hardly ever use IRC, I keep forgetting about those commands
[00:06] <stdin> mrdigital: envy, the script that LinuxReign's link pointed to
[00:06] <teknoprep> hi all
[00:06] <teknoprep> i am not getting a splash screen when i boot up
[00:06] <teknoprep> just a black screen until boot is finished
[00:06] <teknoprep> then i am in the system login screen just fine
[00:08] <mrdigital> so how do i get HD in kubuntu?
[00:08] <LinuxReign> mrdigital, open Adept
[00:09] <crashev> kubuntu failed to install at last step - installing grub - how can I correct this?
[00:09] <LinuxReign> on the search field type nvidia-glx-new
[00:09] <dmcglone> SR-latch, did you join the mailing list?
[00:09] <FireHazard17> stupid x.org
[00:09] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: Can you pm me the steps im not home.
[00:10] <LinuxReign> i cannot pm you, im not registered
[00:10] <dmcglone> crashev, how much memory in the machine?
[00:10] <mrdigital> oh can you email me the steps?
[00:10] <LinuxReign> yes
[00:10] <crashev> dmcglone: 2GB
[00:10] <crashev> dmcglone: i did not make swap partition
[00:10] <mrdigital><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:11] <dmcglone> I had the same problem on an older machine because of low memory. doesn't seem to be your case
[00:11] <LinuxReign> ok, i will send you the instructions
[00:11] <crashev> dmcglone: anyway what menu.lst should looks like for grub - how standard one looks like - any special parameters passed to kernel?
[00:12] <dmcglone> I wouldn't know, I don't know menu.lst by heart
[00:12] <blizzzek> bye
[00:13] <SR-latch>  <dmcglone> yup :D
[00:13] <dmcglone> but it doesn't matter what menu.lst looks like, if you can't install grub then it will not do any good anyway
[00:13] <crashev> can someone show me his entry for ubuntu 7.10 in grug conf?
[00:13] <crashev> dmcglone: I will use mu current grub for booting ubuntu
[00:13] <crashev> dunno why it failed at the installation
[00:13] <dmcglone> Ok i'll paste mine on pastebin
[00:13] <crashev> ok, thx
[00:15] <dmcglone> !pastebin
[00:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:16] <dmcglone> here ya go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46893/
[00:16] <dmcglone> SR-latch cool, you will like everyone there
[00:18] <SR-latch>  <dmcglone> yup!!!
[00:18] <user_> Can anyone help me?  Sometimes my laptop screen remains at "battery brightness" even when plugged in.  How do i fix this? (Gutsy)
[00:19] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: did you email it yet?
[00:19] <user_> are there no "power management" schemes in Kcontrol?
[00:19] <kam> anyone know why xorg creates a mouse device linked to dev/input/mice automatically? how do i stp this?
[00:20] <dmcglone> I hope you brought your sense of humor SR. :-)
[00:20] <gausus> re
[00:20] <gausus> i have a problem with wifi on gutsy gibbon
[00:20] <user_> kam: can't you just edit out the devices you don't need?  What problems is it causing?
[00:20] <user_> gausus: what kind of problem?
[00:20] <gausus> suddenly knetworkmanager had stoped to show any wireless networks available
[00:20] <gausus> kwifi still shows all of them
[00:20] <kam> user_,  not in the xorg.conf
[00:21] <dmcglone> just put the pound sign in front of what you want to edit out
[00:21] <kam> breaks my synaptics driver
[00:21] <gausus> iwconfig eth1 scan does it too
[00:21] <user_> kam: even by commenting it out "#": ???
[00:21] <gausus> but i can't see any of them in knetworkmanager  like i used to
[00:21] <kam> its not in the file
[00:21] <kam> at all
[00:21] <kam> created at start
[00:21] <user_> gausus: have you tried restarting in Recovery Mode?
[00:21] <kam> only found out from the logs
[00:22] <SR-latch>  <gausus> this must be something common cause it has happened to me also, in my laptop
[00:22] <dmcglone> weird, my laptop never had this problem
[00:22] <dmcglone> what laptop do you have SR?
[00:22] <user_> gausus: I had a problem with Knetwork Manager on anothe laptop... try using Wicd - it works great
 acer travelmate
 atheros wifi card
[00:23] <dmcglone> I see. I've got an HP
[00:23] <user_> happened to me on a Vaio
[00:23] <user_> On that lappy, i use Wicd, and never had another problem
[00:23] <SR-latch> it must be bugged or something
[00:23] <maverick_> !wicd
[00:23] <user_> Wicd doesn't use HAL, iirc
[00:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:24] <user_> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[00:25] <SR-latch> HAL= hardware abstraction layer?
[00:25] <user_> yep
[00:25] <dmcglone> man am I ever tired
[00:26] <gausus> user_: no, how can i do it?
[00:27] <gausus> SR-latch: did you found a solution
[00:27] <gausus> user_: i have ibm x60s and ipw3945 card
[00:27] <kam> user_, http://pastebin.com/m6d9d0f8
[00:27] <user_> gausus: how do you do what?
[00:28] <CrocoJet> where I can find one .iso of kubuntu update (day) ?
[00:28] <dmcglone> I'm out of here guys. I'm tired.
[00:28] <pengo> hi
[00:28] <kam> user_, did you see that oddness
 no, but it seems it must be fixed with gutsy or something
 it happens less frequently
[00:29] <gausus> user_: use the recovery mode to fix it
[00:29] <user_> kam: what dmcglone said.  Also, that is the *longest* xorg.conf i've ever seen!
[00:29] <gausus> SR-latch:  use gutsy and it is a permanent problem for me ?
[00:29] <gausus> s/?/./
[00:29] <kam> user its the log
[00:30] <user_> gausus: when your grub loads on boot, do you not have the option of loading kernel(s), recovery mode, and mem test?
[00:30] <kam> can you just look at the line where it cries about no default mouse?
[00:30] <CrocoJet> why install process of kubuntu (gutsy) make upgrade?
[00:30] <mrdigital> stdin: do u know how to get 720p tv-out using the component out on my video card in kunbuntu?
[00:30] <kam> i added corepointer option to the synaptics, so i am totally at a loss
[00:31] <d347hm4n> !apt-getfix
[00:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-getfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:31] <stdin> mrdigital: no, I've only ever used laptops with intel graphics
[00:31] <user_> kam: i see it, but what problems is it causing you?  Does your touchpad work?
 what do you mean?
[00:31] <stdin> !aptfix | d347hm4n
[00:31] <ubotu> d347hm4n: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:31] <genii> !aptfix
[00:31] <mrdigital> does anyone?
[00:31] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[00:31] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[00:31] <kam> user_, yes but i cant turn of tap drag, which makes the devie too sensitive to use
[00:32] <kam> literally a slight touch = a clik
[00:32] <d347hm4n> i get E: Couldn't find package 22931-nightfall.tar.gz
[00:32] <sourcemaker> Good night boys...   Sometimes Knetwork Manager is fickle
[00:38] <LinuxReign> there is NO "stupid" questions
[00:38] <SR-latch> is there a possibility that power saving laptops automatically turn it off?
[00:38] <SR-latch> that was my initial thought on the matter
[00:39] <SR-latch> cause sometimes my wifi card is not recognized from other software like ethereal
[00:39] <fungos_> trying to install kubuntu on my sata drive as master. It stops at booting after installed. the line is: sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[00:39] <fungos_> and doesnt continue anymore
[00:39] <SR-latch> and it lists it like disconnected or something
[00:40] <kam> user_, im trying to do that now.  the problem is the generic mouse driver from the stupid auto'd default mouse is overruling the touchpads settings. the ps2 emulation mode makes the tap option not work
[00:41] <kam> thats why i need to remove its auto creation
[00:41] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: what about tv-out ?
[00:41] <user_> kam: i'm digging around on this one... i haven't seen this before.  Did you upgrade from an older version of kubuntu?
[00:42] <LinuxReign> ok, mrdigital, once u have that installed just open a konsole and type sudo nvidia-settings
[00:42] <LinuxReign> there u should be able to configure the tv-out thingy
[00:42] <treelizard> Hi, what is the correct way of installing skype on an amd64 system?
[00:42] <kam> user_,  nope, ubuntu gutsy iso apt got kubuntu desktop
[00:42] <user_> kam: see if this helps ----> http://www.chromakode.com/blog/2007/09/19/logitech-lx7-in-ubuntu-edgy-ihatekludgers/
[00:43] <LinuxReign> damn, I've lost my amd64 version DVD :(
[00:44] <mrdigital> ok thanks
[00:45] <NickPresta> perhaps I'm blind, but I used to have the kicker-kickoff package with Feisty. I can't find one for Gutsy. I msg'd ubotu but it just leads to a release announcement. Am I missing something?
[00:45] <ardchoille> !info kicker-kickoff
[00:45] <ubotu> Package kicker-kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[00:45] <ardchoille> NickPresta: It may not have been added to the Gutsy repos
[00:45] <NickPresta> i had to install it from getdeb or kde-look.org or something similar last time. My search results aren't helping too much
[00:46] <ardchoille> I don't remember kickoff being in the repos for Feisty either
[00:46] <ardchoille> !search kickoff
[00:46] <ubotu> Found: kickoff
[00:46] <ardchoille> !kickoff
[00:46] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[00:47] <ardchoille> !info kickoff
[00:47] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[00:48] <NickPresta> actually, I think it's in Treviño’s repos
[00:50] <kam> user_, Im gonna restart real quick brb, and thanks for all the help so far jik x doesnt come back
[00:56] <treelizard> alright, here is another question. For some odd reason whenever I use firefox or konquerer's google search tool, it calls google.es. How can make it call google.com? Why is it choosing that anyways?
[00:57] <LinuxReign> treelizard, u have to open Firefox and click on Edit
[00:58] <LinuxReign> go to Preferences
[00:58] <LinuxReign> on the Main tab
[00:59] <LinuxReign> on the Home Page field replace whatever is there with www.google.com
[00:59] <LinuxReign> click on Close and u r done
[00:59] <user_> linuxreign: that will set your homepage to google.com, but how does that reconfigure the built-in searching preferences on the menu bar?
[01:00] <user_> treelizard: please let us know if that works
[01:00] <treelizard> hmm, but I don't want my home page to be google.
[01:00] <LinuxReign> well
[01:01] <treelizard> All I want is when I search in google search bar not to call google.es.
[01:01] <LinuxReign> type whatever u want to be your home page
[01:01] <LinuxReign> ah
[01:01] <user_> treelizard: try this --> in firefox, click on the "G" at the google search.  Then click "manage search engines"
[01:01] <treelizard> ok
[01:02] <user_> treelizard: delete google, and then "restore defaults'
[01:03] <user_> treelizard: see if that gets you back into regular google
[01:04] <treelizard> nope, still uses google.es
[01:04] <user_> treelizard: ok, hang on
[01:04] <treelizard> no problem.
[01:08] <user_> treelizard: firefox - Edit>Preferences>Advanced>Languages ... which language is listed first?
[01:10] <kaizo> hi i'm sort of new to kubuntu and just wondered if anybody could help me out with configuring input methods? I installed skim and anthy
[01:10] <user_> treelizard: also, are you using a proxy, or would there be any reason your ip would be listed as from a spanish country?
[01:12] <treelizard> 3n-us
[01:13] <treelizard> sorry
[01:13] <treelizard> en-us
[01:13] <treelizard> I'm not using any proxys that I know of.
[01:13] <treelizard> I'm living in Canada,
[01:13] <treelizard> and if you check my ip, it seems pretty canadian.
[01:14] <user_> treelizard: this is quite the conundrum :/
[01:14] <BluesKaj> yup, saw that treelizard :) ...welcome to cancksville on kubuntu :)
[01:14] <treelizard> thanks. :)
[01:14] <treelizard> Yeah, this is driving me nuts.
[01:15] <BluesKaj> err canucksville
[01:15] <user_> me too, now
[01:15] <treelizard> I'm having all sorts of crazy problems with kubuntu right now.
[01:15] <user_> treelizard: like what else... maybe i can help you with *something*
[01:15] <treelizard> well, the wireless isn't working.
[01:15] <treelizard> firefox doesn't refresh pages all the time.
[01:16] <joseph> how do i look up my default gateway adress....please dont say ifconfig
[01:16] <treelizard> I don't know how to set up 32 bit programs like skype
[01:16] <treelizard> (the last one is my fault for installing amd64 version.)
[01:16] <joseph> how do i look up my default gateway adress....please dont say ifconfig?
[01:16] <user_> treelizard: i was just going to say that the 64-bit version has a lot more bugs
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Network Settings -> Routes
[01:17] <user_> treelizard: but your wireless should still work... does Knetworkmanager run on startup?
[01:17] <adamonline45> Has anyone used libgtk with kdevelop who can walk me through a very simple 'hello world' app?  I opened a fresh gtk project, and it won't even compile with the base code in it :/
[01:17] <treelizard> I think so.
[01:17] <treelizard> It sets up the wired network up fine.
[01:17] <user_> treelizard: what do you see when you right-click it?  does it see your wireless ssid?
[01:18] <treelizard> It is a new laptop, with Broadcom BCM94311M
[01:18] <treelizard> Oh, I don't even get that far.
[01:19] <user_> treelizard: do you have the Knetworkmanager icon in the kicker panel (task bar)?
[01:19] <treelizard> right, I do.
[01:19] <user_> so right click it.
[01:19] <user_> what does it say?
[01:19] <treelizard> Knetworkmanager
[01:19] <treelizard> followed by stuff about wired connection.
[01:19] <user_> no listing for wireless?
[01:20] <treelizard> nope.
[01:20] <user_> treelizard: i know older versions of kubuntu had trouble with broadcom chips... hang on
[01:20] <treelizard> In the options, there is a comment about disabling wireless.
[01:20] <BluesKaj> treelizard, install ia32-libs
[01:20] <treelizard> I'm using gutsy, for the record.
[01:21] <treelizard> installing
[01:21] <BluesKaj> <---amd 64 gutsy , mostly everything works ok, not using wireless tho
[01:22] <treelizard> BluesKaj: What type of computer do you have?
[01:23] <treelizard> installed
[01:23] <BluesKaj> compaq presario SR 1734X , nothing fancy cpu=venice 3200+
[01:23] <user_> treelizard: if you run " lspci " in terminal, what's the output? (use pastebin)
[01:23] <user_> !pastebin
[01:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:24] <no0tic> hi, is there a way to make konsole recognize urls? it would be useful, since I use irssi
[01:24] <Max-P> Does anyone know how to get the ATI S-Video out working?
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0547 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0548 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0542 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0541 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0543 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055e (rev a2)
[01:25] <user_> treelizard: please use pastebin (see above)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055f (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055e (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055f (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0560 (rev a1)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0561 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0550 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 054c (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0531 (rev a2)
[01:27] <user_> LjL: i told him twice...
[01:27] <user_> ljl: he's new
[01:27] <LjL> user_, once he started he can hardly stop
[01:27]  * lavacano201014 ports everything over to the linux box and plays tremulous [/ame]
[01:27] <user_> treelizard: PLEASE use pastebin for posting outputs
[01:27] <treelizard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46899/
[01:27] <user_> better :)
[01:28] <treelizard> sorry about that flooding.
[01:28] <treelizard> I didn't realize what I was doing until it was too late.
[01:28] <user_> treelizard: well, it's clear that your hardware isn't being recognized... Does anyone have similar hardware and know where to get the proper drivers???
[01:29] <treelizard> I searched for it on ubuntu forum,
[01:29] <treelizard> and there was a howto on making it work.
[01:29] <treelizard> Someone had made a script,
[01:30] <treelizard> and running the script made iwconfig find the eth1,
[01:30] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:30] <treelizard> but that's as far as it went.
[01:30] <adamonline45> Can anyone recommend a good GUI toolkit for KDE?
[01:30] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:30] <user_> treelizard: run "uname -a " in terminal  (output is short) :)
[01:31] <treelizard> Linux katt 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:31] <user_> ok
[01:31] <user_> treelizard: type   sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:32] <treelizard> It is already installed, I believe
[01:32] <user_> treelizard: have you enabled it in Kcontrol?
[01:33] <user_> treelizard: alt+f2 > kcontrol > Sys & Admin > Restricted drivers
[01:33] <treelizard> hmm, it claims that it is in use.
[01:33] <treelizard> Let me try turning it off, and back on again.
[01:33] <user_> treelizard: ok
[01:34] <draik> What would cause Frostwire to not run?
[01:34] <draik> I get the bouncing icon, but then nothing after that.
[01:34] <user_> draik: can u run from terminal?
[01:34] <Max-P> Run it in Konsole
[01:34] <user_> good call, max-p :)
[01:35] <BluesKaj> wrong java client installed, draik
[01:35] <draik> BluesKaj: How do I check which one is installed?
[01:35] <BluesKaj> look in adept
[01:35]  * Max-P sent it after because of his ******* 56k modem
[01:35] <user_> haha :)
[01:36] <user_> draik: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html
[01:36] <BluesKaj> but I don't know which one it uses
[01:38] <draik> BluesKaj: user_: All of 6 are installed
[01:39] <user_> draik: type " java -version " in terminal
[01:39] <draik> I just did
[01:39] <user_> draik: post output in pastebin
[01:39] <draik> 1.5.2-02
[01:39] <draik> Sorry
[01:39] <draik> Version 1.4.2-02
[01:39] <yeason> does anyone here know where to find info on getting multi-touch screens to work? I can't seem to find any thru google or the forums
[01:40] <user_> draik: np - what's your runtime environment?
[01:40] <draik> Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[01:40] <user_> draik: i think you need 1.5 or higher, iirc
[01:40] <user_> draik: get 1.6
[01:41] <user_> draik: from link above
[01:42] <draik> Which one..... /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:43] <user_> draik:  type " sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin "
[01:44] <shinkamui> user_: you still around?
[01:44] <user_> yup
[01:44] <shinkamui> Im 99% there, really appreciate the help
[01:44] <shinkamui> the touchpad is recognized, but the eraserpoint isn't
[01:44] <shinkamui> its a dualpoint from alps
[01:44] <user_> wait, what was your other name?
[01:44] <shinkamui> and the irony is that its a umpc so the touchpoint doesn't actually exist
[01:44] <shinkamui> user_ I was KAM
[01:44] <shinkamui> :)
[01:44] <user_> oh, ok
[01:44] <shinkamui> im also Kamui
[01:44] <shinkamui> :-D
[01:45] <treelizard> user_: so I restarted the firmware,
[01:45] <user_> yeah, i'm usually "ignoramus", but konversation for some reason logged me in with this name :/
[01:45] <treelizard> and I don't think my wireless is working.
[01:45] <user_> ok
[01:46] <user_> shinkamui: i don't know much about eraserpoints (i'm a simple person)....
[01:46] <shinkamui> user_: and the retardation of this synaptics driver is that it seems to use auto-dev automatically and it detects my touchpoint, but not the stick,  or it doesn't care about the stick anyway, so I can't explicitly specify the correct event
[01:46] <shinkamui> user_: well, I appreciate your help, its been humongous.  Now that Im on an actual pc with a keyboard, I think I can do better research
[01:46] <shinkamui> user_: just wanted to come back and let you know that you were a huge help and thanks
[01:47] <user_> shinkamui: thanks... i wish i could help more
[01:47] <user_> shinkamui: you can always check the kubuntu forums or #ubuntu
[01:47] <draik> user_: It's already the latest
[01:48] <user_> draik: type " frostwire " in terminal .  Look for any problems
[01:48] <draik> Shouldn't I have picked a different java from the list?
[01:48] <user_> treelizard: still not showing anything under "wireless"/
[01:48] <user_> ?
[01:49] <user_> draik: not necessarily, you can install from terminal
[01:49] <user_> draik: you tried installing version 1.6, and it says you already have it?
[01:49] <draik> user_: I entered the command you provided and it says it's the latest
[01:50] <user_> draik: hmmm... lemme see
[01:50] <user_> draik: did you try starting frostwire from terminal
[01:53] <draik> user_: I got it working. I had to choose a different java "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[01:53] <draik> I chose /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:53] <user_> draik: cool... now does frostwire work?
[01:53] <jkl_> 有中文的朋友吗?
[01:54] <stuffcorpse>  有
[01:54] <user_> !en
[01:54] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:54] <draik> user_: Yes
[01:54] <jkl_> hi stuffcorpse
[01:54] <stuffcorpse> hi
[01:54] <user_> draik: awesome.  it's good to fix stuff on your own!
[01:55] <draik> user_: I'll let you know when I do that without anyone's help. Thank you user_
[01:55] <user_> draik: np - i've talked to you before (im usually "ignoramus")
[01:55] <draik> user_: Case and point. I've been needing help since day one
[01:56] <jonathan_> help with emerald please
[01:56] <user_> draik: i'm new too (3 months maybe)... i learn by screwing up, and fixing it, or getting help to fix it
[01:56] <jonathan_> i see the themes i click on them but i dunno how to instal them
[01:56] <draik> user_: I've been using Kubuntu since 6/1/06 with the initial release of Dapper Drake
[01:57] <user_> draik: then you've learned... "google is your friend!"
[01:57] <user_> :)
[01:57] <draik> The interesting thing is that I joined at an ironic time (Drake/Draik)
[01:57] <draik> user_: I've learned this much... http://www.tinyurl.com/2c9np
[01:57] <jonathan_> #emerald
[01:57] <Dooood> oops, I forgot to set myself "away".  sorry.
[01:58] <slav3_kitten> so anyone know what would make scons not see my python2.4-dev ?
[01:58] <user_> draik: haha! ain't it the truth?
[01:58] <draik> user_: Yup
[01:58] <slav3_kitten> an why i wouldent have a python-config
[01:58] <draik> Goes to show that I've got that link shortened for a reason :P
[01:58] <user_> draik: yup... it definitely helps.  I like the personal attention you get in IRC, though
[01:59] <user_> draik: like when i couldn't get sound working - because i had it on 'mute' XD
[01:59] <draik> user_: Nothing beats real-time help
[01:59] <draik> user_: I think I remember that
[01:59] <user_> draik: yeah, not that long ago... I've learned a lot since then
[02:00] <user_> draik: like check for the basics first
[02:00] <user_> draik: in my defense, i had kubuntu for like 2 weeks, and was still using my winxp boot most of the time... i didn't know how to do anything
[02:01] <draik> user_: It's rather interesting the way I got involved. I asked around for what Linux distro to use for a beginner and someone mentioned Kubuntu. So here I am
[02:01] <draik> I woke up one morning and decided then and there that I was going to be a Linux user.
[02:02] <draik> I guess I reached the age of reason
[02:02] <user_> draik: that's exactly how i got here... it's actually pretty true.  I happen to be a Windows guru (on 98 and above anyway), but I finally came to a realization
[02:02] <user_> draik: but now i'm like a jehovah's witness with it.  I'm pretty obnoxious.  Especially when my parents call for "tech support"
[02:02] <user_> "Install Linux!"
[02:03] <slav3_kitten> i decided to try debian based system after years of using slackware
[02:03] <user_> viruses? Install linux! Spyware? install linux! dog crapped on the carpet? install linux!
[02:03] <draik> user_: I work as a Technical Support representative
[02:03] <user_> slav3_kitten: slackware is way too complicated!
[02:04] <user_> draik: on Windows systems?
[02:04] <slav3_kitten> i liked slackware alot
[02:04] <slav3_kitten> to be honest thou
[02:04] <draik> user_: Yup. Supporting member's websites
[02:04] <user_> slav3_kitten: people say it hasn't evolved much lately, though...
[02:05] <user_> draik: windows is ok for certain things, but i really like the freedom and customizability of linux
[02:05] <slav3_kitten> user_ it still works flawlessly on my gear like 166mhz CF-25 toughbooks an stuff
[02:05] <draik> user_: EXACTLY!  I can't enter any text into Frostwire
[02:06] <user_> slav3_kitten: then use older xfce - the newest version is not much faster than kde
[02:07] <user_> slav3_kitten: as linux becomes more commercial, it gets more bloat
[02:07] <slav3_kitten> yea i know
[02:07] <slav3_kitten> my hardware dosent get any better
[02:07] <draik> How do I add an app to Katapult?
[02:07] <slav3_kitten> best system i have is 800mhz panasonic CF-28 512megs
[02:08] <slav3_kitten> ram, 30gig hd
[02:08] <user_> draik: with your frostwire problem, trying typing in Chat, and then anywhere else
[02:09] <draik> It can't
[02:09] <user_> slav3_kitten: you'd be totall crippled on windows
[02:09] <user_> draik: hmmm
[02:09] <draik> user_: I closed it and opened it again
[02:09] <draik> It's all good
[02:09] <slav3_kitten> acutally no, that box still runs win2k well an all my development software on it
[02:11] <user_> draik: good stuff
[02:11] <user_> slav3_kitten: do you purposely use ancient hardware?
[02:12] <user_> (just curious)
[02:12] <draik> user_: Oh yeah! :)
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> i use what i can afford and lasts
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> i cant afford a new fully rugged laptop
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> so i use an old on
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> e
[02:12] <user_> slav3_kitten: yeah, i have 3 computers, but they're all older and i only bought one brand new
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> and ancient would be my first computer which was 16mhz
[02:13] <user_> 16mhz!
[02:13] <shinkamui> anyone know much about the synaptics driver?
[02:13] <shinkamui> xorg always seems to use auto-dev to set my synaptics device instead of what I set manually in xorg.conf
[02:13] <slav3_kitten> i have never bought a brand new laptop
[02:13] <fuzzy> new laptop smell is the bestest
[02:13] <slav3_kitten> and never a preassembled system
[02:13] <shinkamui> so I set "device" "/dev/input/event2" and Xorg.0.log shows that that same device was configured with auto-dev to /dev/input/event3
[02:13] <shinkamui> which is the wrong event
[02:14] <slav3_kitten> oh shit i'm guna vomit more blood, tea, and ice cream
[02:14] <user_> slav3_kitten: me neither. i bought a 'new' (refurb) desktop from Tigerdirect years ago ($280).  It's still truckin! I dual boot on that one
[02:14] <slav3_kitten> bbiab
[02:16] <user_> shinkamui: do you have the latest version of xorg?
[02:16] <shinkamui> user_ pretty sure, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:17] <user_> shinkamui: i still don't understand why xorg inserts hardware settings where none exist... mine didn't do that
[02:17] <shinkamui> they do exist
[02:17] <shinkamui> let me pastebin, this will be much smaller :)
[02:17] <shinkamui> oh crap, I can't
[02:17] <shinkamui> can't use the mouse
[02:17] <user_> shinkamui: or touchpad?
[02:17] <shinkamui> user_ there isnt'a  touchpad, only an eraserpoint
[02:17] <user_> shinkamui: oic
[02:18] <shinkamui> but the synaptics driver auto detects the touchpad device and wont detect the eraserpoint
[02:18] <shinkamui> odd as hell since there is no damn touchpad
[02:18] <user_> shinkamui: have you tried reconfiguring xorg?  i mean, if your settings are already borked....
[02:18] <shinkamui> as in an autoconfigure?
[02:18] <shinkamui> xorg -configure
[02:18] <shinkamui> ?
[02:19] <user_> as in sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:19] <user_> if nothing else is working, it's worth a shot....
[02:25] <Dooood> hi all.  Is there a freeware or open-source linux equivalent to "Logmein" that will allow me to control a winXP machine from kubuntu, and also allow me to be able to control the kubuntu machine  from the winXP machine, especially when I'm away from home (over the internet)?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> !remote_desktop
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote_desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <BluesKaj> !remote
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <ubuntu__> howdo I mount my floppy drive?
[02:27] <Dooood> not looking good, huh?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Dooood, anyway try looking around for remote desktop
[02:27] <BluesKaj> it exists
[02:27] <Dooood> is that open source?   In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 976 kB
[02:30] <BluesKaj> Dooood, see the above!
[02:30] <Dooood> hm?
[02:30] <Dooood> ah
[02:30] <Dooood> thx
[02:30] <user_> blueskaj: you knew it was in there somewhere, huh? :)
[02:30] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:30] <shinkamui> user: doesn't work, I tried gsynaptics
[02:31] <shinkamui> user_: It doesn't effect the eraserpoint at all
[02:31] <user_> shinkamui: dammit.... sorry bro.  I hope someone with more knowledge on the subject can help you
[02:31] <shinkamui> user_: in fact, at this point if I could just get the stupid synaptics driver to using auto-dev, I'd probably be in good shape, but Im starting to think its built into the driver
[02:31] <BluesKaj> uhhm  Dooood , there's anotherone called tsclient , it's gnome app but it should run on kde too
[02:31] <user_> i, on the other hand, am going to grab a few cold ones :)
[02:31] <BluesKaj> !tsclient
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tsclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <user_> see you guys later
[02:32] <BluesKaj> !info tsclient
[02:32] <ubotu> tsclient: front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.148-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 294 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[02:32] <Dooood> kool, and is that bidirectional control, BluesKaj?
[02:34] <Frederick> folks I was unable to set up my geforce 8800 with ubuntu can anyone help me?
[02:34] <morphine> hey folks, I'm looking at this page
[02:34] <morphine> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:34] <morphine> Wondering why the only architectures available are i386 and amd64
[02:34] <morphine> If I'm running a generic kernel which one do I need?
[02:35] <fuzzy> kubuntu is the best thing everr
[02:36] <Frederick> fuzzy: you are a joker
[02:36] <fuzzy> am i now
[02:38] <ubuntu__> how do I use my floppy drive from the live cd if /dev/fd0 isn't in fstab?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> Dooood, sorry was called away , not sure .
[02:41] <Dooood> ok.  I started looking to install krdc, and it appears t already be installed!
[02:41] <oobe> mkdir /mnt/flop && mount -fs  ? /dev/fd0 /mnt/flop
[02:41] <oobe> replace ? with filesystem
[02:42] <Dooood> it says it supports vnc and rdp servers, so I guess I need to install vnc on my laptop....
[02:43] <Dooood> vnc
[02:43] <BluesKaj> windows isn't friendly to linux on my network , altho i can read and write to the windows pc from my linux box with no probs. I've never tried a true remote desktop connection over the internet
[02:43] <Dooood> oops
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> Krdc is only a client
[02:43] <Dooood> I keep typing on the wrong keyboard....
[02:44] <BluesKaj> !vnc
[02:44] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> I use x11vnc as a VNC server. It's not all that easy to set up, but I couldn't see any others that handled display:0
[02:44] <Dooood> Dragnslcr: meaning I can only control the kubuntu machine with the windows machine?
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> Other way
[02:44] <Dooood> ah
[02:44] <Dooood> hm
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> If you want to remotely control a Kubuntu system, you need to install a VNC server
[02:45] <oobe> or use ssh
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> Then you can use any VNC client you want on a Windows system
[02:45] <Dooood> ok.  I guess I'll put that project off for now.  I need baby steps at first.....
[02:46] <Dooood> ....tiny, tiny, tiny baby steps.....
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yeah Dragnslcr, Dooood , i've never had much luck controlling my linux pc from the wife's windows pc , even over our little lan.
[02:46] <Dooood> ok, thx
[02:47] <ubuntu__> how do I mount my hard drive from the live cd?
[02:48] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu__: I would think it should do it automatically, try looking in /media
[02:49] <Dooood> oddly, I tried opening the laptop with a browser on the kubuntu box (since the lappy already has logmein installed) but couldn't connect.  It claims to work in any browser, bbut I guess it means any *windows* browser.....
[02:49] <ubuntu__> it doesn't, it's not there
[02:50] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu__: you can do "sudo fdisk -l" to see what partitions are on the disk
[02:51] <ilikepie> That's a -l, not a -i
[02:52] <Frederick> oki somehow x booted
[02:52] <ilikepie> Frederick: Control + Alt + F1
[02:53] <ilikepie> should drop to a shell
[02:53] <ilikepie> Hello!
[02:54] <Frederick> im on x still not sure I will be able to come back to x
[02:54] <Frederick> how do I check if nvidia driver is running?
[02:54] <ilikepie> Frederick: to come back to X: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[02:55] <ilikepie> As for nvidia,
[02:55] <Frederick> the driver is loaded acording to lsmod
[02:55] <ilikepie> ok.
[02:56] <ilikepie> Can i get a ps -e in a pastebin?
[02:56] <ilikepie> please?
[02:56] <Frederick> from me?
[02:56] <ilikepie> yes
[02:56] <Frederick> sure
[02:56] <ilikepie> ok
[02:57] <ilikepie> [
[02:57] <ilikepie> oops!
[02:59] <Frederick> http://rafb.net/p/4U9RlL63.html
[02:59] <ilikepie> ok
[02:59] <adamonline45> How do I make just a plain empty project in kdevelop?
[03:00] <ilikepie> Frederick, you will be able to come back to X.
[03:01] <Frederick> oki man but I think nvidia is not running
[03:02] <ilikepie> well, my nvidia has never been running.
[03:02] <ilikepie> NVIDIA graphics card, though,
[03:02] <ilikepie> works fine
[03:02] <Frederick> hm
[03:03] <ilikepie> Standards.
[03:03] <Frederick> what doyou mean?
[03:04] <ilikepie> There are standard drivers that work across all video cards.
[03:04] <shinkamui> god damn
[03:04] <ilikepie> They may not use special features,
[03:04] <shinkamui> I don't think the alps dualpoint stick works in linux at all
[03:04] <ilikepie> but they work moderately well.
[03:05] <skyfalcon866> !qt
[03:05] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[03:08] <ilikepie> Frederick: Did it work?
[03:08] <ilikepie> :-?
[03:09] <Frederick> ilikepie: im on x dunno how
[03:09] <skyfalcon866> !gtk
[03:09] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:09] <ilikepie> What happened?
[03:09] <skyfalcon866> !botabuse
[03:09] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[03:10] <ilikepie> !operating systems.
[03:10] <ilikepie> Frederick: What happened
[03:10] <ilikepie> ?
[03:12] <adamonline45> Does compiz-fusion come pre-installed with gutsy gibbon 7.10?
[03:12] <ilikepie> !the world
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about the world - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <ilikepie> ha.
[03:12] <bonbonthejon> adamonline45: in Ubuntu
[03:13] <adamonline45> bonbonthejon: Alright, thanks 8)
[03:13] <Frederick> kubunru keeps asking for the cd to update packages :/
[03:14] <skyfalcon866> !strigi
[03:14] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[03:14] <skyfalcon866> !kde4
[03:14] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[03:15] <bonbonthejon> Frederick: open adept and change the repositories to ignore the CD
[03:15] <adamonline45> !compiz-fusion
[03:15] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:16] <skyfalcon866> !tell skyfalcon866 about botabuse
[03:17] <al-_-Gir> ubuntu have this wizard to enable fusion , also kubuntu hae it ?
[03:17] <al-_-Gir> or i need to install it from adapt ?
[03:17] <bonbonthejon> al-_-Gir: no wizard, you need to install it in adept
[03:18] <al-_-Gir> :( its pity that ubuntu deafult desktop is gnome and not kde
[03:19] <tarin> im not sure if any of you guys have talked to me before but if you have i am back again with the same problem
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> That's all Kubuntu is
[03:19] <BluesKaj> al-_-Gir, kubuntu desktop default is kde , ubuntu desktop default is gnome
[03:20] <tarin> i installed kubuntu a little less than a month ago
[03:20] <al-_-Gir> Dragnslcr , but ubuntu is alot more developed ... alot more resources goto ubuntu and less to kubuntu
[03:20] <tarin> internet worked fine when it was feisty
[03:20] <skyfalcon866> !jdong
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[03:20] <BluesKaj> al-_-Gir, wrong !
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- not really
[03:20] <tarin> i upgraded to gutsy and now every time i restart my machine the internet no longer works
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> It's the same repositories
[03:20] <al-_-Gir> why not , its is so hard to put one wizard also to kubuntu ...
[03:21] <al-_-Gir> i dont understand them
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- are you only talking about Compiz?
[03:21] <al-_-Gir> generally
[03:21] <skyfalcon866> #ubuntu
[03:21] <tarin> this is a custom built machine with a realtek on board ethernet card
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Compiz doesn't get along with KDE as well as it does with Gnome
[03:21] <tarin> dual bootiing with xp
[03:21] <tarin> can anyone help me stop the madness?
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> And KDE4 will have many of the same compositing effects as Compiz
[03:22] <al-_-Gir> Dragnslcr , what ? :\ it will have his own new compiz ?
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> Having said that, I've used Compiz with KDE and it works quite well
[03:22] <tarin> after about 3 hours of messing with stuff i can get it to work but the next time i reboot its gone again and its never the same fix 2x
[03:22] <al-_-Gir> yes im also
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: but you haven't use compiz with kde4... *shudders*
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> All you need to do is install the compiz packages
[03:23] <al-_-Gir> but its little bit difficult to install it
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, I only used KDE4 for about 10 minutes
[03:23] <al-_-Gir> ALSO driver for nvidia , to restart kdm , X
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- not really, just install the packages through Adept
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: i'm doing it full time. my kde3+compiz set up crashed beyond quick repair.
[03:23] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: no more difficult than ubuntu
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- ouch
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: yeah.. wasn't fun.
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- KDE4 was a bit too buggy for me. Stuff like the systray being in the middle of the screen
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> but kde4 is rock stable,plasma has crashed beyond replair once.
[03:24] <al-_-Gir> bazhang_ , ofcoure that yes , ubuntu have wizard that you only click on "full effects" and it install and do all you need
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> With no apparent way to move it
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: thats all fixed now.
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> Nice
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> I figured it wouldn't take long
[03:24] <al-_-Gir> when kde 4 will be released ?
[03:24] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: that's hype--kubuntu is much easier :}
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> I may try RC2 when it hits the repositories
[03:25] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: jan 11 2008
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- I think the plan is for mid-January
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule#Upcoming_milestones
[03:25] <al-_-Gir> kubuntu 8 will have default kde4 desktop right ?
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> 8.04 will not
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> al-_-Gir: 8.10 probably will
[03:25] <al-_-Gir> why ?
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> 8.04 is an LTS version, so they're sticking with KDE3
[03:26] <al-_-Gir> aa aunderstand
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> KDE4 will most likely be available in the standard repositories though
[03:26] <al-_-Gir> LTS is for 3 years right ?
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Probably take 5 minutes to install it
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> I think so
[03:26] <bazhang_> yup
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> yeah... and there is going to be a kde4 cd as well
[03:26] <bazhang_> 3 years desktop 5 years server
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that
[03:27] <al-_-Gir> server is only ubuntu  : \
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> 8.04 will have two versions, one with KDE3 and one with KDE4 as the default
[03:27] <bazhang_> sweet
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Server doesn't really matter, since most people wouldn't have Gnome or KDE on a server
[03:27] <bonbonthejon> al-_-Gir: ubuntu server doesn't have a GUI
[03:27] <bazhang_> I'm running hardy now and its nice
[03:28] <al-_-Gir> bazhang_ , new feutres ?
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- remember that Ubuntu and Kubuntu are only different in one package
[03:28] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: not this early
[03:28] <al-_-Gir> 1 package do all the different ...
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> Ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop installed by default, while Kubuntu has kubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <al-_-Gir> but im kde user ...
[03:28] <tarin> bazhang:remember me?
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> You can install both desktop packages on the same computer
[03:29] <bazhang_> tarin: how could I not? :}
[03:29] <tarin> lol
[03:29] <tarin> well it has done it again no internet
[03:29] <tarin> and it hasnt been booted into xp at all today
[03:29] <bazhang_> tarin: describe it with more info and then well see if if can be helped
[03:30] <bazhang_> tarin: I remember, but others may not
[03:30] <tarin> well when i got off the pc last night you guys helped me get my internet working
[03:30] <tarin> i had initially installed feisty and everything worked great
[03:30] <tarin> i then upgraded to gutsy via adept
[03:31] <tarin> since then internet has been hit or mis
[03:31] <tarin> i am dual booting with xp on a home built pc with onboard realtek ethernet
[03:31] <tarin> wake on lan has been disabled via bios
[03:32] <tarin> everytime i bring up knetwork manager it says no active devices
[03:32] <bazhang_> tarin: that should be disabled inside of windows as well
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> tarin: kill knetworkmanager, you have a wired connection, so you don't need it.
[03:33] <tarin> yeah its always been disbled in windows i have no use for wake on lan
[03:33] <tarin> how do i kill it
[03:33] <tarin> this is also with a router hading out dhcp if that helps
[03:34] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, i have a wired connection and I had to reconfigure the knetwork manager after upgrading to gutsy
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> tarin: right click on it, say close,and when it asks you if you want to start on login. say no.
[03:35] <tarin> ok should i restart now?
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> tarin: and configure your wired interface from within system settings->network
[03:36] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, i have a wired connection and I had to reconfigure the knetwork manager after upgrading to gutsy
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: how'd you do that?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> with the realtek like tarin has
[03:37] <tarin> should i mark the box activate when computer starts or leave it empty?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> tarin: yeah, actuvate when the computer starts
[03:38] <tarin> ok so do i need to  restart the whole machine or can i log out and log back in?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> it was inactive so i ran the knetwork manager and it opens network settings
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> tarin: i'd do a restart to be safe.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: which is what I just told him to do. :D
[03:41] <tarin> ok restarting
[03:41] <BluesKaj> yeah, but why did you tell him to turn off knetwork manager ?
[03:42] <tarin> the thing that kills me is that it has been a different fix every night for a week lol
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: cause its uneccasary and causes problems
[03:42] <smooker> how do i completely disable the screen server and black screen turning on after time ?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> smooker: system settings-> power management I believe
[03:44] <smooker> dont see any power management
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> then its in monitor and display
[03:45] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, well my wired network manager is not going to be turned off, cuz it works. All he ahas to do is right click on it and choose 'wired network' and that 'll activate his connection
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: but he said it said it told him "no available devices"
[03:46] <BluesKaj> bummer , he needs to do a manual config then
[03:46] <tarin> doesnt give me that option....if i single left click on it it tells me no active devices then when i right click the only thing i can do is manual config
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> tarin: but does internet work?
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> (i'm assuming you've rebooted)
[03:47] <tarin> nope no internet
[03:48] <BluesKaj> do the manual config : IP is prolly some thing like <IP_ADDRESS> and the subnet mask is : <IP_ADDRESS>,broadcast is :<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:48] <tarin> and no knetman icon either
[03:48] <BluesKaj> damn , no red X ?
[03:48] <tarin> nope
[03:48] <tarin> no icon at all
[03:48] <BluesKaj> wow
[03:49] <tarin> we set it not to run a startup
[03:49] <tarin> about 33 lines up
[03:49] <BluesKaj> yeah, but i still don't understand why ?
[03:50] <tarin> also the networking service doesnt start
[03:51] <tarin> just looked at that now
[03:51] <BluesKaj> ok, i'll stay out of this
[03:51] <tarin> and i just tried to restart it and it wont do it
[03:52] <tarin> can anyone tell me what me /etc/network/interfaces file should look like?
[03:52] <tarin> BRB
[03:52] <flaccid> tarin: that would depend on your network configuration
[03:53] <flaccid> see man interfaces
[03:54] <BluesKaj> tarin, pm , i'll show you the file
[03:59] <tarin> ok i have that
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> hey.... tarin sorry, my mom wanted me for something
[04:02] <tarin> np
[04:02] <tarin> i had to go outside to smoke a cig anyway
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> tarin: ummm you could try just running "sudo dhclient eth0" from the commmand line
[04:03] <tarin> ok one sec
[04:04] <tarin> dhcpdiscover not finding any offers
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> wow... thats weird. you sure the network cable is plugged in tightly at either side?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> tarin, behind a router or modem ?
[04:05] <tarin> router
[04:05] <tarin> set to send dhcp
[04:06] <tarin> and i have tried unplugging and plugging back in already
[04:06] <tarin> this is kind of embarassing since i did tech support for an ISP for 1.5 yrs
[04:07] <tarin> and now i install entire networks
[04:07] <tarin> too bad its all windows
[04:07] <tarin> lol
[04:07] <tarin> not enuff ppl use linux ya know
[04:08] <BluesKaj> realtek RTL-8139 ethernet card here , is that familiar ?
[04:09] <tarin> thats exactly what i have
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> I have the same chip too..
[04:09] <tarin> rev 10
[04:09] <BluesKaj> which router
[04:09] <tarin> buffalo
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> tarin: what does "lsmod | grep 8139" give you?
[04:10] <tarin> not many ppl know them but they are great routers
[04:10] <tarin> 3 files
[04:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, mines abit diff too, seimens speedstream 6300
[04:11] <tarin> 8139too, 8139cp, and mii
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> kernel modules.... 8139too, 8139cpand mii, right?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> and ifconfig lists it as eth0?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> for instance... is there an eth1 or eth2?
[04:12] <tarin> nope just eth0
[04:13] <tarin> but i have eth1 and eth2 listed in my interfaces but they are commented out
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> hrm.... try a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" for the heck of it.
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> and then another "sudo dhclient eth0"
[04:15] <tarin> still no offers
[04:15] <tarin> should it be looking at <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:15] <tarin> port 67?
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> yeah....
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> I think so
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> yes, thats what mine does
[04:17] <tarin> ok
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> your router ok?
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> do you hae windows on this same computer?
[04:18] <tarin> yup i am wireless on my laptop
[04:18] <tarin> yeah its dual boot
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> does windows connect fine?
[04:18] <tarin> if i boot to windows no issues
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> >_>
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> well, unfortunately,I have to go..... I have no clue what the problem could be.... actually, try a "sudo lshw" and look for the network interface
[04:19] <tarin> if i didnt have so many things i need on the windows i would nuke it
[04:19] <tarin> ok
[04:19] <tarin> thanks for the help
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> tarin: its useful for times like this
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> try the sudo lshw real fast.
[04:21] <tarin> shows eth0 as the realtek
[04:21] <snarkster> good evening. Is libdvdcss in the repos?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> tarin: and the associated driver is 8139too?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[04:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:22] <tarin> yup
[04:22] <tarin> 0.9.28
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> tarin: ok, then I haven't got a clue... sorry, and good luck :D
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> bye
[04:22] <tarin> thanks
[04:22] <tarin> cya
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> well, hopefully you'll fix it and you won't have to ;)
[04:24]  * sea4ever is gone.
[04:24] <tarin> anyone else have any experience  getting internet to work on gutsy?
[04:28] <BluesKaj> tarin, nosrednaekim is quite knowledgeable , but i would retry knetwork manager in /usr/share/autostart. Maybe a manual configuration will work ...it's a thought
[04:28] <tarin> yeah i will give it a try
[04:30] <bazhang> what's the replacement for dhclient?
[04:31] <flaccid> why do you need to replace it
[04:32] <bazhang> dont need to, just wanted to know the name dhcpcd or something like that
[04:32] <BluesKaj> well, sacktime for me ...nite all
[04:34] <flaccid> well dhcpd is the server and dhclient is the client
[04:35] <bazhang> cheers--can't remember who told me a couple of days ago that one could also use this alternate command to connect
[04:37] <kate__> so what does this thing do?
[04:39] <Frederick> folks where do I place the command so kubuntu runs dhclient on boot?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> ZZZzzz...
[05:01] <mrdigital> all the mirrors to download 7.10 are down
[05:01] <mrdigital> invaild HTTP Header
[05:01] <bazhang> get a torrent then
[05:02] <mrdigital> my isp limits torrent downloads
[05:02] <mrdigital> even the .torrent files wont download
[05:04] <bazhang> mrdigital: all the mirrors? worldwide? hard to fathom
[05:05] <mrdigital> yepppp
[05:05] <mrdigital> try them
[05:07] <bazhang> http://mirror.nttu.edu.tw/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:08] <bazhang> no problem there
[05:08] <bazhang> for kubuntu just substitute kubuntu in the appropriate places
[05:10] <bazhang> http://ftp.twaren.net/Linux/Ubuntu/ubuntu-cd/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:10] <bazhang> mrdigital: that one works for kubuntu
[05:10] <kubuntu7> up
[05:11] <mrdigital> that the DVD?
[05:12] <bazhang> haha
[05:12] <mrdigital> supplied http header is invaild
[05:12] <mrdigital> the CD isos work
[05:12] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:13] <bazhang> worldwide mirrors not down then heh
[05:15] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:18] <jalbert> hello all
[05:18] <jalbert> I have a question about storage devices
[05:19] <jalbert> I am not able to open CD or DVD media
[05:19] <jalbert> is there something special that needs to be done/
[05:19] <jalbert> ?
[05:28] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:29] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:29] <bazhang> lucian: have you checked ubuntuforums?
[05:30] <lucian> i checked kubuntuforums.com
[05:30] <lucian> and im trying to ask in #kde and google. ..  nothing tho
[05:30] <lucian> :(
[05:30] <bazhang> best to check ubuntuforums absolute beginner talk search for add menu item
[05:31] <jalbert> I have a CD that was burned using Windows. It has an .avi file on there but for some reason Linux won't see it.
[05:31] <jalbert> when I try o mount it, it comes up blank. No files, no folders
[05:31] <bazhang> jalbert: problem with the burn or the media most likely
[05:32] <jalbert> well I'm unable to mount any external hard drives or USB devices also
[05:33] <bazhang> jalbert: hot plugging them? or in at start up
[05:33] <jalbert> in at start-up
[05:34] <bazhang> what file system on the hd drives?
[05:34] <jalbert> my USB key works, but external USB HDD won't
[05:34] <jalbert> NTFS I believe
[05:34] <bazhang> do you have ntfs-g installed?
[05:35] <jalbert> I think so... one sec
[05:35] <lizili> hi ,i have a problem when use kaffeine to play movies in kubuntu6.06,it says "xine: xine can't find input plugin for MRL [smb://xxxxx/xxx.rmvb]
[05:37] <jalbert> the NTFS-Gnome virtual filesystem module?
[05:38] <bazhang> jalbert have you read the !ntfs link?
[05:38] <jalbert> I opened Adept Package Manager and filtered for "ntfs" and there's a list of 9 packages
[05:38] <jalbert> !ntfs
[05:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:39] <jalbert> ok thanks I'll read this
[05:39] <bazhang> no worries :}
[05:40] <lucian> arg
[05:40] <lucian> !kmenu
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <lucian> !kdemenu
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdemenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <lucian> !kde-menu
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <lizili> help !! when i choose films those stored in my friend computer through samba to play in kaffeine it says "you can only select local files",what should i do please?
[05:42] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=631818 lucian
[05:42] <lucian> lizili: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:43] <lucian> i know how to add an item to kde
[05:43] <lucian> but i installed kde games which is like 25 items
[05:43] <lucian> and it didnt add it to the menu
[05:43] <lucian> no games menu or anything
[05:44] <bazhang> kmenu editor should take care of that as well iirc
[05:44] <lucian> and sorting through /usr/share/applications/kde for the games among 200+ icons will be
[05:44] <lucian> annoying
[05:45] <lucian> blah. im just going to boot to the cli and remove and re-install kde
[05:54] <lizili> i can find samba files through:file>open file ....where is the samba ?
[06:01] <sharif> Hello
[06:01] <sharif> AnyBody there ??
[06:03] <emilsedgh> yes
[06:03] <emilsedgh> sharif: as you could see there are many people here :)
[06:04] <sharif> But nobody still alive :P
[06:05] <sharif> I need help  for Kubuntu .... anyone there for help me ?
[06:05] <ardchoille> !ask | sharif
[06:05] <ubotu> sharif: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <emilsedgh> sharif: if you have a question, just ask.go on...
[06:06] <sharif> how    can i change my Screen resulation on   Kubuntu?
[06:06] <sharif> I tried but no change :(
[06:06]  * hydrogen wonders about the topic
[06:06] <hydrogen> wtf is a Tutorials Day Week?
[06:07] <ardchoille> sharif: ctrl+alt+<minus|plus>button ?
[06:07] <sharif> Before  2days ago .. i  just got Kubuntu 7.10   :P  and yesterday i installed
[06:07] <bazhang> sharif: did you check apply?
[06:07] <sharif> Yeah bazhang . i checked
[06:07] <Canthares> you change you screen resolution through system settings
[06:07] <Canthares> monitor and display
[06:07] <sharif> ardchoille:  ... doesnt working :(
[06:08] <ardchoille> sharif: Do you need to add new resolutions to xorg.conf?
[06:08] <sharif> yes .. Canthares .. i tried but when i applied  there is  no change in my Screen
[06:08] <Canthares> what is it set at now?
[06:08] <sharif> i want to make 1024x768
[06:08] <sharif> 800x600 :(
[06:09] <ardchoille> sharif: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:09] <sharif> ok doning
[06:09] <sharif> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[06:09] <sharif>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071205120946
[06:10] <sharif> what i do   now :>
[06:10] <flaccid> logout, restart x
[06:10] <sharif> after a long time tring :> i have   connected with my GPRS :> via  WVDAIL :P
[06:10] <flaccid> or do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:10] <ardchoille> sharif: now you restart xorg, save any work and do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:10] <flaccid> soz ardchoille
[06:11]  * flaccid goes back to work
[06:11] <sharif> ok brb .... rstarting :D
[06:25] <lizili> hello,everybody !I have installed linux-686 in kubuntu6.06 , should i remove linux-386 to keep off confilct ?
[06:28] <bazhang> lizili: what hardware?
[06:30] <lizili> dell latitude csx
[06:31] <sharif> Hello I am  Back
[06:31] <bazhang> lizili: no need to remove
[06:31] <sharif> thanks buddy for help me :D
[06:32] <sharif> another problem :>  in   Kopete
[06:32] <bazhang> sharif: all your resolution problems gone?
[06:32] <sharif> yeah ... problem solved :>
[06:33] <bazhang> sweet
[06:33] <sharif> now another problem :> bazhang
[06:33] <sharif> bazhang: Another problem :D
[06:33] <sharif> in Kopete :> ...      all time      it was  crashed  :(
[06:34] <bazhang> sharif: could you provide more info? try running it from the konsole
[06:34] <sharif> i am new user  of Kubuntu .. so i dont know all about Kubuntu
[06:35] <sharif> When i  start  Kopete,  it  run for  5mins ... after 5mins   it shows  a mmessege that Kopete is      Crashed
[06:35] <bazhang> sharif: if you run it from the konsole, it will give more info as to why it crashed--did only the app crash, or your whole system
[06:36] <sharif> only  App crash
[06:36] <sharif> system in      ok
[06:36] <bazhang> sharif: open konsole and type in kopete
[06:37] <sharif> ok
[06:37] <sharif> done
[06:38] <bazhang> wait until it crashes, then try to remember the error message or jot it down, then report it here
[06:38] <bazhang> one of the ops in this channel is a kopete/kde developer, and can likely help
[06:38] <sharif> GOt   hugee   report for    Crash :(
[06:39] <sharif> Where   he is ?
[06:39] <bazhang> sharif: pastebin it; link can be found at !paste
[06:39] <sharif> #38 0xb6860699 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
[06:39] <sharif> this is last line
[06:39] <bazhang> !paste | sharif
[06:39] <ubotu> sharif: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <hydrogen> sharif: thats not going to be a helpful backtrace
[06:40] <sharif> i didnt understand what i  paste ?
[06:40] <bazhang> sharif: the complete error message
[06:40] <sharif> ok
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <bazhang> ugh
[06:41] <bazhang> sharif: not in the channel but to that link
[06:41] <sharif> kicked  me  :P for   flooding :D
[06:42] <sharif> ohh ok :>
[06:44] <sharif> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46920/
[06:44] <sharif> bazhang: go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46920/
[06:45] <bazhang> sharif: best to remember that link and post it a bit later--when the kopete dev is around :} me = clueless
[06:45] <sharif> :(
[06:45] <sharif> i have to go now :( time     for Shower :(
[06:46] <sharif> Bye now .. i will come at  night   in Bangladesh  time
[06:46] <ninjagambit> ok i was runing windows and fedora8 but i was preparing for a swap from fedora to kubuntu so i deleted all my partitions that were made during the fedora install
[06:46] <sharif> Bye all     and bazhang
[06:46] <bazhang> bye
[06:46] <ninjagambit> but it never said free space
[06:47] <ninjagambit> just said un allocated
[06:47] <bazhang> ninjagambit: using gparted or cfdisk or other
[06:47] <ninjagambit> gparted
[06:47] <hydrogen> bazhang: that backtrace won't be helpful anyways
[06:48] <bazhang> hydrogen: but a certain kopete dev will likely help :} cheers
[06:48] <hydrogen> all it shows is that there was a crash somewhere after logging in with ssl
[06:48] <hydrogen> or failing to log in with ssl
[06:48] <hydrogen> to msn
[06:48] <bazhang> ninjagambit: have you run the kubuntu installer
[06:48] <ninjagambit> not yet
[06:48] <ninjagambit> im downloading it now
[06:48] <bazhang> ninjagambit: and xp is already installed right?
[06:49] <ninjagambit> yeah im on it now
[06:49] <ninjagambit> i had a little trouble booting back in
[06:49] <ninjagambit> after that but i think i have that fixed
[06:49] <ninjagambit> going to try in a sec
[06:49] <bazhang> ninjagambit: the kubuntu installer should sort that out
[06:49] <bazhang> ninjagambit: though would be a good idea to back up :}
[06:50] <ninjagambit> all i realy have on here i cant replace is pictures
[06:50] <ninjagambit> of my family
[06:50] <ninjagambit> i backed those up this morning
[06:50] <ninjagambit> everything else i can download or i have disk
[06:50] <ninjagambit> alot of downloading though
[06:52] <ninjagambit> im probably going to do a clean slate install of windows xp once i get kubuntu runing
[06:53] <hydrogen> install windows first
[06:53] <hydrogen> its a lot easier
[06:53] <ninjagambit> i have it
[06:53] <ninjagambit> already
[06:53] <hydrogen> but you said you were going to reinstall it?
[06:53] <ninjagambit> yeah
[06:53] <hydrogen> windows likes to mess with the mbr when it installs
[06:53] <ninjagambit> oh
[06:53] <hydrogen> and it overwrites the linux bootloader
[06:53] <ninjagambit> ok
[06:53] <bazhang> ninjagambit: if you are going to reinstall xp anyway, then best do it first--less troublesome that way
[06:54] <ninjagambit> ok thanks for the advice
[06:54] <ninjagambit> didnt know it move outside the partition
[06:55] <_dac_> sportchick, where you from ?
[06:56] <bazhang> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu ninjagambit
[06:57] <ninjagambit> fedora install was easy
[06:57] <ninjagambit> i hope this one goes the same way
[06:57] <bazhang> kubuntu is as well
[07:01] <gastu> hi
[07:01] <gastu> i have configured the dualscreen on my kubuntu 1 monitor 1 tv everything seems to be fine excpet that videos played on the tv even in fullscreen are using the half of the tv the rest is black
[07:03] <Dragonath> I think the solution to this would be running 2 x servers, but I don't know much about setting up such a thing
[07:07] <ninjagambit> ok so my unallocated portion is now free space
[07:07] <ninjagambit> ?
[07:08] <chx> how can i update the window title of a Konsole session? after ssh to a remote server and logging out it still says the name of said ssh session which is not what I want
[07:09] <ninjagambit> will gparted delete all content in the partitions when the partitions are deleted
[07:10] <ninjagambit> i even made the unallocated space a partition and formated it as linux swap then deleted it again
[07:10] <chx> echo -ne "\033]0;Shell\007" -- thanks.
[07:10] <ninjagambit> to see if it changed to freespace
[07:12] <enrique> hola
[07:12] <enrique> soy nuevo en ubunto
[07:12] <enrique> una pregunta para todos
[07:12] <enrique> puedo instalar firefox ?
[07:13] <ninjagambit> enrique: englesis
[07:13] <ninjagambit> english
[07:13] <enrique> my name is Henry
[07:13] <enrique> I have  proble
[07:13] <ninjagambit> lol
[07:13] <enrique> i am new in this system operative
[07:14] <enrique> i have want instal firefox
[07:14] <bazhang> enrique: open up adept and install firefox
[07:14] <enrique> tanks
[07:16] <bazhang> de nada :}
[07:17] <enrique> bazhang you speak spanish?
[07:17] <kamui__> HOLAS
[07:18] <kamui__> UXAS
[07:18] <kamui__> hola alguien en español ha de hablar por aca?
[07:19] <enrique> si
[07:19] <enrique> yo carnka
[07:19] <enrique> kamui
[07:19] <ardchoille> !es | enrique
[07:19] <ubotu> enrique: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:19] <kamui__> holas
[07:19] <kamui__> bien o no?
[07:19] <ardchoille> !es | kamui__
[07:19] <ubotu> kamui__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:19] <bazhang> enrique: a little (un pequito)
[07:19] <enrique> ok
[07:19] <kamui__> a bueno
[07:20] <kamui__> como estan?
[07:20] <kamui__> bien o no?
[07:20] <enrique> pues bien yo soy nuevo
[07:20] <kamui__> que tanto?
[07:20] <ardchoille> Es neccesito usar Ingles en esta canal
[07:21] <Jucato> kamui__, enrique: English only please
[07:21]  * Jucato should really have learned Spanish in high school...
[07:21] <kamui__> .....
[07:21] <kamui__> que tan nuevo eres?
[07:21] <ardchoille> He's not even listening when I said it in Spanish
[07:22] <kamui__> ok speak in spañish
[07:22] <kamui__> spanish
[07:22] <enrique> tanks kamui
[07:22] <enrique> pues soy tan nuevo que quiero instalr firefox
[07:22] <enrique> jiji
[07:22] <Jucato> Do NOT speak in Spanish in here. This is an English channel.
[07:22] <kamui__> one moment i am goback
[07:22] <Jucato> !es | enrique and kamui__
[07:23] <ubotu> enrique and kamui__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:23] <enrique> gracias ubotu
[07:23] <enrique> good night all
[07:24] <enrique> hola
[07:24] <enrique> buenas noches a todos
[07:24] <enrique> soy nuevo en kubuntu
[07:24] <enrique> y requiero instalar firefox
[07:24] <enrique> como le puedo hacer
[07:24] <ardchoille> enrique: You can obviously speak English, please do so or some of these folks will refuse to help you.
[07:25] <Jucato> or do even worse...
[07:25] <ardchoille> True, ignore an op and you're out of here.
[07:25] <bazhang> indeed enrique--you should know better :}
[07:26] <enrique> I want instal FireFox
[07:26] <bazhang> enrique: and I told you how to do so: open adept and install firefox
[07:26] <ardchoille> enrique: sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:26] <ardchoille> bazhang: Sorry, didn't you you had already helped him
[07:27] <kamui__> go to sistem)adept)firefox)install
[07:27] <bazhang> ardchoille: I helped, but he didn't read :}
[07:27] <kamui__> enrique?
[07:27] <enrique> ok
[07:28] <enrique> kamui
[07:28] <kamui__> go system-administrator adept-firefox-install
[07:28] <enrique> i am solicited instalation tanks
[07:28] <kamui__> ok
[07:29] <normie__> morning people
[07:29] <kamui__> hello
[07:31] <normie__> does anyone have experience in configuring a broadcom1390 wireless card?
[07:32] <emilsedgh> normie__: yes
[07:32] <emilsedgh> normie__: i did it with ndisrapper for feisty, but that should be easy now in gutsy
[07:32] <kamui__> y donde estan todos
[07:32] <emilsedgh> s/ndisrapper/ndiswrapper
[07:33] <normie__> emilsedgh thanks for replying i can't seem to get it to work, i tried ndiswrapper
[07:33] <emilsedgh> normie__: did you try to do it with Kubuntu's Restricted Manager?
[07:34] <normie__> emilsedgh yes and the light goes blue but then goes back to orange
[07:34] <emilsedgh> normie__: dunno then.i never tried it because im still on feisty :)
[07:35] <normie__> how did you get it to work om fiesty? which manual did u use?
[07:38] <enrique> i have problem plugin File Shockwave Flash
[07:38] <enrique> help
[07:39] <emilsedgh> normie__: i cant remember, but i remember that it was so easy with ndiswrapper
[07:40] <normie__> emilsedgh if i read the manuals it all seems easy but i can't get it to work. it's frustrating. what kinda laptop do you have
[07:41] <emilsedgh> normie__: i have a dell inspiron
[07:41] <normie__> emilsedgh i have a hp pavilion dv6225us
[07:41] <emilsedgh> normie__: should work really, i dunno whats the problem.
[07:42] <kamui__> enrique
[07:43] <kamui__> wath link for  download kubuntu?
[07:43] <normie__> emilsedgh me neither the light doens't even come on. i tried opensuse and the works but my system then hangs
[07:44] <emilsedgh> normie__: what was the problem with ndiswrapper?
[07:44] <kamui__> wath download site for kubuntu?
[07:44] <normie__> emilsedgh well i do all the steps and those seem to work but my card still doesnt get recognized
[07:44] <emilsedgh> normie__: as i remember i downloaded the driver from dell website.it was named something.exe but it was a zip file.i extracted it and find a .inf file in it and ndiswrapper - i file.inf
[07:45] <kamui__> tanks
[07:46] <kamui__> o.k tanks everibody bye....
[07:47] <kamui__> on the next time
[07:47] <kamui__> bye...
[07:47] <normie__> emilsedgh i've done that but still nada :-( i have reinstalled linux more the 10 times already trying to get it to work from a clean intall
[07:48] <emilsedgh> normie__: no, reinstalling linux gives you nothing
[07:49] <emilsedgh> normie__: but sorry i cant help on this, but my advice is 1)reinstalling gives you nothing 2)try to fix the restricted managers problem
[07:50] <jpiccolo> anyone know grep with regex good?
[07:50] <normie__> just tried it again, my light turn blue but after 1 sec turn off again
[08:02] <_DT> is there a way to remove the gnome-style file browser that sometimes appears in kubuntu?
[08:02] <_DT> I'd rather just use the KDE one
[08:05] <_DT> it often comes up when browsing to open or save a file. The icons are not as nice as the latest crystal set ;-)
[08:06] <emilsedgh> _DT: in which application?
[08:06] <emilsedgh> _DT: maybe because you are using a gtk+/gnome application?
[08:07] <_DT> hmmm, can't think of an app offhand. It just seems to popup now and then. perhaps it is a gtk thing
[08:08] <_DT> not a big problem, I just thought perhaps there was an easy way to uninstall the gnome version of the file browser
[08:18] <adamonline45> Hello.  Is it possible to install Avant Window Manager in Kubuntu?
[08:28] <Daisuke_Ido> !lit
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Daisuke_Ido> !find ebook
[08:28] <ubotu> Found: alcovebook-sgml, alcovebook-sgml-doc, notebook-gtk2, ebook-dev-alp, ebook-dev-ggad (and 4 others)
[08:28] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[08:39] <crashev> there is no skype in unbuntu 7.10 reps ?
[08:40] <Jucato> I don't think there ever was.
[08:41] <Jucato> !skype
[08:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:47] <emilsedgh> Jucato: so, exactly which project(s) you were talking about?
[08:48] <Jucato> it's a secret :)
[08:48] <emilsedgh> so keep your secret :)
[08:48] <Jucato> I've heard that "statement" quite many times already... from distros to DE's to (the latest) kftpgrabber and ftp:/ :)
[08:49] <emilsedgh> aah
[08:49] <Jucato> it's quite common :)
[08:49] <emilsedgh> yes, beryl/compiz too
[08:49] <emilsedgh> but kftpgrabber isnt a fork of ftp kio slave, is it?
[08:49] <Jucato> that's one project that succeeded in merging :)
[08:50] <Jucato> dunno. the comment on the Dot just triggered my rant-mode :)
[08:51] <emilsedgh> aah, KDE has a nice ecosystem.TheDot, Planet, OSNews, Commit Digest, Mailing Lists and IRC are living so cute together!
[08:51] <Jucato> OSNews? O.o
[08:53] <Jucato> aaaanyway... :)
[08:53] <emilsedgh> Jucato: its KDE News are getting lots of attention.devs response in there too...
[08:53]  * Jucato puts the topic back on, and scavenges for some food
[08:53] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yeah, mostly to defend themselves :)
[08:55]  * Jucato recalls some past articles/"news" that totally misrepresented KDE and pissed devs off (like aseigo...)
[08:55] <Jucato> last year I think. forgot the topic :P
[08:55] <emilsedgh> haha yes
[08:55] <emilsedgh> aseigo was under lots of criticism in these 2 years
[08:56] <Jucato> anyway. :)
[08:57]  * Jucato ->isGone(); // returns true
[09:00] <kubuntuhelp> hi..which is the program that I must download to deluge-torrent.org for kubuntu gutsy?
[09:01] <Jucato> !info deluge-torrent
[09:01] <ubotu> deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3059 kB, installed size 10740 kB
[09:03] <kubuntuhelp> Jucato, ok, but do I download ubuntu version or debian version?  I'm sorry for my english
[09:06] <kubuntuhelp> ok..I solve..the ubuntu version...thank you all
[09:16] <sigma> how do i enable the cube desktop on compiz?
[09:17] <emilsedgh> sigma: use compiz-settings-manager to change compiz settings
[09:18] <sigma> emilsedgh, i did that but when i press ctrl+alt+right arrow after that the cube doesn't appear, the desktop just flips
[09:18] <emilsedgh> sigma: does alt+ctrl+click brings cube?
[09:19] <emilsedgh> sigma: maybe you should enable 'rotate cube' tooo?
[09:21] <sigma> i enabled rotate cube and tried alt+ctrl+click and it don't work - im using the nvidia 6600GT if that helps
[09:22] <habdel> !info brctl
[09:22] <ubotu> Package brctl does not exist in gutsy
[09:22] <habdel> !brctl
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brctl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <sigma> whats brctl?
[09:22] <habdel> it is bridge control util.
[09:23] <habdel> I am having headache with it
[09:23] <sigma> emilsedgh: all da other effects r working except for da cube and i have 4 desktops enabled so it shudn't be flipping it
[09:27] <sigma> habdel: what does it do?
[09:27] <habdel> I want to enable internet on my virtualbox machine which means I have to setup kind of bridge between my machine and the virtual one
[09:28] <llutz> habdel: the package is bridge-utils
[09:29] <habdel> llutz: yes thanks, I am aware of that .. the problem is to configure it
[09:29] <llutz> habdel: and howto set it up is nicely described at virtualbox-userdocumentation
[09:30] <habdel> llutz: I've special case here, I connect to the internet using vpn
[09:33] <frogface__> Hi, could I ask a quick question on laptop-mode and the dreaded ubuntu load_cycle count bug at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591503
[09:35] <posingaspopular> frogface__: continue..
[09:35] <frogface__> Well, I'll just go ahead anyway :)
[09:35] <frogface__> Ah. Beat me too it!
[09:35] <frogface__> Ok.
[09:36] <frogface__> From the solution at that url I don't understand why just installing laptop mode and disabling APM is the suggested solution.
[09:36] <frogface__> Is there a reason that laptop-mode wasn't suggested?
[09:37] <Stevethepirate> hi.
[09:37]  * Stevethepirate waits for the !hi | Stevethepirate
[09:38] <posingaspopular> frogface__: ive read the post but dont understand it myself completly. maybe someone else knows or try emailing the guy who wrote the post
[09:38] <posingaspopular> hey Stevethepirate
[09:39] <frogface__> posingaspopular: Thanks for the help. It's a long long post. I'll eventually work my way to the end!
[09:41] <Stevethepirate> Hi. Anyone .. I need a way to make my "line out" jack on my PC become a subwoofer out... i.e. apply an equalizer to it.
[09:42] <fdoving> Stevethepirate: let me know if you find a solution to that, i've been looking for that too.
[09:42] <posingaspopular> hmmm... Stevethepirate, maybe alsamixer? im not too good with sound
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> fdoving: i'm talking to one of my jabber friends about it..
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> he's directed me to a decent site..
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Low-pass_filter_for_subwoofer_channel_(HOWTO)
[09:43] <fdoving> thanks :)
[09:56] <Stevethepirate> Hi. I'm on gutsy.. looking [reading a guide] but i lack /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc.conf
[10:03] <Bobson> system settings doesnt allow admin mode!!!
[10:03] <Bobson> pls help
[10:04] <Bobson> any1 awake?
[10:04] <emilsedgh> yes ?
[10:05] <Bobson> could you help me out?
[10:12] <RogueJediX> My PC just rebooted for no reason for the third time today (and it's only 11 AM). Is there any system log so I can see what happened?
[10:13] <llutz> RogueJediX: check /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages and further check your cpu-temperature and do a ramtest (memtest)
[10:13] <RogueJediX> Thanks, llutz
[10:17] <RogueJediX> I've just realised I don't know what message I'm looking for. I think I'll do a memtest first. brb
[10:42] <TimS> For some reason, when i logged in it reset KDE and i had to set it up again, but now when i hightlight anything it automaticaly copies it, how can I stop this?
[10:43] <emilsedgh> TimS: thats for clipper.its in system tray, take a look at it
[10:43] <TimS> Okay, I was just thinking that :P
[10:44] <TimS> Cheers
[10:56] <TheInfinity> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632097 <-- anyone who knows what there might be wrong?
[10:58] <yakuzi> hi all
[10:59] <yakuzi> i've some strange "problem" : i choose red for selected items, but in adept it's still the blue from the standard install (selected items, dowloading updates, scrollbar etc) while it's all red in my settings
[11:00] <CrocoJet> good morning everyone !
[11:01] <CrocoJet> how can I make install group programs (.deb) with unique command ?
[11:01] <llutz> CrocoJet: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:02] <CrocoJet> llutz, thanks
[11:06] <milestone> hi all
[11:07] <milestone> are there any repositories available which provide access to the kde4 rc1
[11:07] <milestone> ?
[11:08] <milestone> read the topic first, ey?
[11:08] <milestone> nevermind
[11:13] <emilsedgh> milestone: today rc2 will be tagged.next week rc2 will come.better to wait until then?
[11:43] <fildo> !compizfusion
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <fildo> !compiz
[11:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:45] <slav3_kitten> mman i got the good pills
[11:46] <slav3_kitten> any time you wake up in a pool of drool you know they prescribed the good stuff
[11:47] <ben_> hi all
[11:51] <maverick> i have a problem, K3B won't let me Burn unless I Sudo , any ideas ?!!
[11:51] <maverick> probably username is not i devices group?!
[11:51] <maverick> in*
[11:52] <slav3_kitten> or your trying to burn files you dont have read permissions for
[11:52] <maverick> slav3_kitten: am sure i have permission to read these files
[11:53] <maverick> slav3_kitten: the thing is i looked at the user group settings
[11:53] <slav3_kitten> your first idea is prolly right
[11:53] <maverick> am added to the devices group
[11:53] <slav3_kitten> oddd
[11:53] <maverick> it was burning
[11:53] <maverick> suddenly it doesn't unless i sudo
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> if i was a lil more with reality i'd be able to help. but to be honest i'm wasted on pain pills because i'm recovering from surgery
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> but you know, check prmissions for where its creating temp files
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> or do you burn on the fly?
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> ive had installs of things magically change directory permissions an screw things like that up
[11:55] <maverick> slav3_kitten: the CDROM deivce is /dev/sg0
[11:55] <slav3_kitten> right
[11:55] <slav3_kitten> but where is it creating the temp iso file to burn
[11:55] <maverick> slav3_kitten: when chown it to my user... K3B burns without SUDO
[11:56] <slav3_kitten> like i said i'm a lil high on a buncha narcodic pain killers
[11:56] <maverick> slav3_kitten: it's not about the temp path it's about that sg0 get created with root permissions
[11:56] <slav3_kitten> because i had my tonsils dug outa my throat yesterday
[11:57] <maverick> ???
[11:57] <slav3_kitten> i had to have an emergency tonsilectomy yesterday at 3am, they spent 4 hours scraping out infection an tonsils from my throat
[11:58] <maverick> slav3_kitten: well, speedy recovery
[11:58] <slav3_kitten> what shoulda been a 30 minute make 2 slits an pop the tonsils out because a 4 hours removal of abcessed tonsils
[11:58] <slav3_kitten> so yea i'm a bit outta it
[11:58] <maverick> slav3_kitten:nyways i guess i;ll stick to SUDO with nero as am fed up with k3b not being able to import sessions
[11:59] <slav3_kitten> awww
[11:59] <slav3_kitten> i'm kinda drifting back to sleep agaim
[12:02] <matt> i have a problem with my epson stylus photo 915 printer and i beleave the probem is in the udev rules and the wrong permisions are set.. does anyone know where i can fild the rule for epson printers in the udev rules?
[12:03] <slav3_kitten> do you know the udev rule filename?
[12:04] <slav3_kitten> if so
[12:04] <matt> thats what im looking for. the only refances i can find are printerscanners in the libsane rule file but i cant find the file containing the rule for epson stylus photo 915
[12:05] <slav3_kitten> goto your root directory an type sudo find -name thenameoffile
[12:05] <slav3_kitten> or like *photo*915*
[12:05] <RogueJediX> Well, the memtest turned up nothing
[12:09] <matt> all i can find is under epson and it shows me the path /usr/lib/cups/backend/epson
[12:10] <matt> :/usr/lib/cups/backend$ ls -l
[12:10] <matt> total 216
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  7200 2007-07-20 12:51 beh
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15464 2007-10-08 12:38 canon
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16136 2007-10-08 12:38 epson
[12:10] <RogueJediX> If I pasted my /var/log messages and syslog, could someone look at it and tell me what's up with my computer rebooting for no reason?
[12:10] <matt> -rwx------ 3 root root 24136 2007-11-01 16:24 http
[12:10] <matt> -rwx------ 3 root root 24136 2007-11-01 16:24 ipp
[12:10] <matt> -rwx------ 2 root root 19156 2007-11-01 16:24 lpd
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  4718 2006-11-08 17:11 mtink
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 14324 2007-11-01 16:24 parallel
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root  6592 2007-11-01 16:24 scsi
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 14328 2007-11-01 16:24 serial
[12:11] <matt> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    21 2007-11-18 12:47 smb -> ../../../bin/smbspool
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 24872 2007-11-01 16:24 snmp
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12708 2007-11-01 16:24 socket
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 15684 2007-11-01 16:24 usb
[12:11] <matt> matt@base-unit:/usr/lib/cups/backend$
[12:12] <NickPresta> !pastebin | matt
[12:12] <ubotu> matt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <matt> soz nick new to irc
[12:29] <jtmoney> i'm torn between xp/mediaportal and ubuntu/myth on my media center box. as far as my hauppauge 150 goes, it looks MUCH better under windows than it does in linux. anyone know as to why? different drivers?
[12:31] <bucatoamano> !ot
[12:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:47] <Dragnslcr> Yay, new version of Firefox finally got into the repository
[12:51] <soumyajyoti> ineed help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:54] <bazhang> soumyatoji what's the problem?
[12:55] <Jack111> hi
[12:55] <bazhang> heya
[12:55] <Jack111> can anyone help?when i click on a link, firefox alway opens two tabs instead of one
[12:56] <bazhang> Jack111: right click not working?
[12:57] <Jack111> bazhang: right gives me the context menu, open url, bookmark link, save,copy.left click opens the two tabs
[12:58] <bazhang> Jack111: you got adblockplus plugin, noscript or any others going?
[13:01] <Jack111> bazhang: i have the default adblock thing and i didnt install noscript either, some other addons though
[13:03] <bazhang> Jack111: I suspect you need to fiddle with your firefox preferences on link clicking behaviour--may also want to check the subscriptions you have for adblockplus
[13:04] <crashev> kubuntu is compatible with debian - installing debian packages should be ok ?
[13:04] <Jack111> bazhang: but i cannot do that in the preferences in firefox, can i? only in the systems ettings?
[13:05] <bazhang> crashev: what do you have in mind? using debian repositories with Kubuntu?
[13:05] <titanix88> hello
[13:05] <crashev> bazhang: rather just some packages from debian, not repos
[13:06] <bazhang> Jack111: have you checked out if you can? there are preferences for firefox that decide that behaviour
[13:06] <crashev> !skype
[13:06] <bazhang> crashev: use at your own risk :}
[13:06] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[13:07] <crashev> bazhang: I thought there is some kind of compatibility and it is safe in some way :)
[13:08] <dthacker> Is there an Adobe Reader package available for Kubuntu?  KGhostview is chopping off the bottom of my document when I print it.
[13:08] <bazhang> crashev: why not use the kubuntu/ubuntu packages? they are without a doubt safe :}
[13:08] <Jack111> bazhang: no that only says open in new wondow or new tab..anyway trying out some stuff, it will work some time
[13:08] <crashev> bazhang: because there are lack of some packages
[13:09] <crashev> bazhang: I would use it if they were available
[13:09] <bazhang> dthacker: like acroread or something other
[13:09] <dthacker> ah acroread.  let me see if I can find that
[13:09] <bazhang> dthacker: believe it is in the medibuntu.org repositories
[13:10] <dthacker> bazhang: ok
[13:10] <bazhang> crashev: I tend to be conservative in this regard so probably not the best person to ask :}
[13:12] <webus_> dthacker: Acrobat: sudo apt-get install acroread acroread-plugins
[13:13] <dthacker> package acroread not found
[13:14] <dthacker> is that in the "partner" repository
[13:14] <dthacker> ?
[13:14] <stdin> it's not in the repos, you have to install from their sire (not in partner either)
[13:14] <bazhang> dthacker: you may need to add the medibuntu repositories first, then fetch updates, then install
[13:17] <bazhang> dthacker: I stand corrected :}
[13:17] <webus_> dthacker: I installed Acrobat with the Automatix Package. Get it here: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[13:18] <dthacker> um, I see it in medibuntu.   please stand by....
[13:18] <bazhang> automatix may break your system
[13:18] <stdin> not "may" will
[13:18] <stdin> it's evil
[13:18] <stdin> pure evil, and not supported
[13:19] <bazhang> ugh oh for two today
[13:20] <ciacon> hi all... how can I load vesa-fb @ startup?? I miss a high-res command line ;-)
[13:20] <stdin> put it in /etc/modules (and regenerate initrd.img probably)
[13:21] <stdin> "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[13:21] <webus_> dthacker: kpdf is also a superb Viewer for pdf and ps. perhaps you might give it a try. And perhaps you have the wrong paper size in the printer dialog which cuts your documents off.
[13:22] <dthacker> acroread is installed but now I have to go.  tnx for the help
[13:24] <sebbar> hi, where do I find the packages libqimageblitz4 libqimageblitz4-dev and libcaptury-dev which are needed to build kde 4? I'm on gutsy
[13:25] <sebbar> sorry I meant feisty
[13:27] <sdlnxgk> !ssh
[13:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[13:27] <sdlnxgk> !sftp
[13:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:27] <tiom> hi i hope someone can help me with this problem. all the relevant informations ans symptoms should bi in the paste. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46951/
[13:28] <reda> hello biatch !
[13:28] <bazhang> reda please stop
[13:29] <stdin> sebbar: it's not in feisty, that's why the kde4 packages wern't built for it. consider upgrading to gutsy
[13:30] <sebbar> stdin: ah I see. unfortunately my laptop has problems with gutsy. ok tnx
[13:30] <sdlnxgk> Hello everyone !!!
[13:31] <sdlnxgk> is there anyway to monitor SSH and SFTP connections??
[13:31] <stdin> monitor how?
[13:31] <sdlnxgk> stdin, to see which users are logged in downloading from sftp server
[13:32] <stdin> sdlnxgk: who/w/lastlog
[13:32] <sdlnxgk> who and w doens't work
[13:33] <sdlnxgk> haven't tried lastlog yet is that real time?
[13:33] <sdlnxgk> !lastlog
[13:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lastlog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:33] <lola> Hey
[13:33] <stdin> sdlnxgk: it just tells you the last time someone logged in
[13:34] <stdin> (and from where)
[13:34] <stdin> w and who (and ps I guess) are "real time"
[13:34] <lola> Kubuntu rox my sox
[13:35]  * ScorpKing waves to everyone..
[13:35] <ScorpKing> top --> "5376 root       0 -20     0    0    0 S 70.8  0.0 679:23.09 loop0" is that normal?
[13:35] <tof> !ubuntu version > me
[13:36] <stdin> ScorpKing: depends what you're doing :p  loop0 is a loopback device for mounting files (like ISOs)
[13:36] <ScorpKing> the loopback enctypted filesystem uses 70.8+ cpu
[13:36] <stdin> ahh, encryption
[13:36] <ScorpKing> yes
[13:36] <sdlnxgk> stdin, thanks i'm testing out w and who now but never seen any other user logged in before other then me
[13:36] <ScorpKing> blowfish btw
[13:37] <stdin> I doubt that's "normal" but depends I guess
[13:37] <stdin> sdlnxgk: there's also /var/log/auth.log
[13:38] <ScorpKing> oh well.. i'm copying my old disks to the new encrypted one but it's very slow. maybe it's normal then.
[13:38] <ciacon> hi all - I have a problem in menu.lst... I just added the following "vga=791", but I can't see my command line anymore... any hints??
[13:38] <stdin> ScorpKing: I think if you're doing a lot of I/O with it, then you can expect it to be high, processing a lot of data as quickly as it can
[13:39] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: hey! :D
[13:40] <FlashWolf> how can i use rmdir and avoid "Directory is not empty"
[13:40] <stdin> ciacon: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[13:40] <ScorpKing> stdin: thanks. maybe it's the 166Mhz 96MB RAM box as well. hehe
[13:40] <FlashWolf> i wanna remove all in a dir
[13:40] <ScorpKing> hiya FlashWolf! :)
[13:40] <ciacon> stdin: lemme have a look
[13:40] <stdin> FlashWolf: you can't, but that's why "rm -r" was made for :)
[13:40] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: rm -r /dir
[13:41] <FlashWolf> thx!
[13:41] <ScorpKing> rm -r is usefull but i've been sorry a few times. lol
[13:42] <stdin> you should _always_ be careful with rm ;)
[13:42]  * ScorpKing learned never to do anything in a hurry..
[13:42] <sdlnxgk> or when you are tired for that fact !!
[13:42] <hcbox> somebody use k9copy ?
[13:42]  * ScorpKing nods..
[13:42] <sdlnxgk> CLI doesn't have a trash bin to get it back
[13:42] <sdlnxgk> learned that one the hard way
[13:42] <poison--> mornin guys
[13:42] <ciacon> stdin: shouldn't I be able to see somthing like "fb..." or "fra..." when I do "lsmod | grep ..."
 :P
[13:44] <ciacon> stdin: one mo...
[13:44] <poison--> eheheh
[13:45] <poison--> had a scary issue on satuday
[13:45] <poison--> saturday even
[13:45] <stdin> ScorpKing: if you're really bored you can package PyKDE4 for me :)
[13:45] <poison--> rebooted and it wont boot anymore
[13:45] <poison--> said my HD was f@#& up
[13:45] <ScorpKing> poison--: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <poison--> k
[13:45] <ciacon> stdin: I suppose the one I am looking for is the "vesafb" module...
[13:45] <poison--> sorry guys
[13:45] <poison--> forgot
[13:46] <stdin> ciacon: probably yeah, I gave up on framebuffers long ago so I'm a bit foggy on it all now
[13:47] <ciacon> stdin: 5 years ago I stated on gentoo... looking back I am actually astounded how I got by with that ;-)
[13:48] <ciacon> stdin: slightly offtopic but still a laugh  -->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
[13:49] <stdin> well, I haven't install flash get, so can't watch that :p
[13:49] <stdin> (new install of hardy)
[13:50] <stdin> s/get/yet/
[13:53] <maltaethiron> HELP!  I have a presentation I need to give in a couple minutes, and the file is in a pptx format (MS Office 2007)  can anybody help me??
[13:54] <neville> Pray =)
[13:54] <stdin> try opening them in OpenOffice.org Presentation
[13:54] <maltaethiron> i tried, but its not compatable with .pptx files
[13:55] <maltaethiron> Is there anything that I can download in Synaptic that will help me out?
[13:56] <stdin> maybe pptview
[13:56] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i'm not getting run ccsm here (kubuntu)...
[13:56] <stdin> !info pptview
[13:56] <FlashWolf> why? :(
[13:56] <ubotu> pptview: view PowerPoint slide shows. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0-5 (gutsy), package size 1752 kB, installed size 3684 kB (Only available for i386)
[13:56] <FlashWolf> i installed it
[13:56] <maltaethiron> thanks, ill try that
[13:56] <FlashWolf> i open, it says "Loading...", then closes
[13:57] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: sorry, i have to go now. will be back later.
[13:57] <FlashWolf> and i need ccsm (CompizConfig-Settings-Manager)
[13:57] <FlashWolf> someone could help me?
[14:01] <ciacon> stdin: I rebooted (after having commented out vesafb), but I still habe a black screen.... I was thinking... my monitor is telling me that it's a 740x400 resolution.... vga=791 should rather be something like 1024×768...
[14:05] <maltaethiron> so is there any way to open pptx files in kubuntu?
[14:06] <stdin> ciacon: what's your graphics card?
[14:06] <ciacon> stdin: I added "vesafb" to /etc/modules... time for a reboot...
[14:06] <StevenR> maltaethiron: no, afaik. ask the source to convert them to old ppt
[14:06] <ciacon> stdin: have a Radeon X850XT
[14:06] <maltaethiron> StevenR: alright thanks
[14:06] <antiNeo> how come when I enter my password wrong in kubuntu gusty, it gives me: login failed and doesn't give me a chance to try again? then I have to kill X with ctl+alt+backspace
[14:07] <ciacon> stdin: I'll reboot... brb
[14:07] <stdin> ciacon: you can try radeonfb if visafb doesn't work
[14:07]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:10] <ciacon> stdin: back again... adding vesafb to /etc/modules did nothing =(
[14:11] <stdin> did you run "sudo update-initramfs -u" after ?
[14:13] <ciacon> stdin: nope... is that a nesessety
[14:15] <stdin> yeah, because it needs to update the modules file in initrd.img (because it loads before the disk is mounted)
[14:16] <ciacon> stdin: ah... gimme a sec...
[14:18] <ciacon> stdin:time for a reboot
[14:18] <stdin> worth a shot :)
[14:20] <ciacon> stdin: btw... I have a Q... as soon as I update the kernel (apt-get...), do I have to do "sudo update-initramfs -u" (or similar) again??
[14:21] <stdin> shouldn't have to, no. because the initrd.img gets created on your system for the 1st time anyway
[14:21] <ciacon> stdin: oki
[14:21] <ciacon> stdin: reboot ;-)
[14:24] <enrique> alguien que hable spanish espacñol
[14:24] <enrique> i have a problem
[14:25] <ciacon> !es | enrique
[14:25] <ubotu> enrique: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:27] <enrique> taks
[14:34] <barata> hi, now anytime I start kde I always get this message saying "Mime is whatever"
[14:35] <barata> what's going on? how can I clean that ?
[14:35] <barata> I dont even know to what that is related
[14:42] <crashev> what application is responsible for handling multimedia keys in kubuntu?
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> crashev: kino
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> !hotkeys
[14:44] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[14:45] <barata> ok ... it's solved
[14:45] <barata> bye
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> bye
[14:47] <TheFuzzball> Hi, I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu Gutsy and I want to use the Flash plugin with Konqueror, I downloaded the plugin from adobe's site and put it in a folder that konqueror watched, but whenever I try and view flash nspluginviewer crashes
[14:47] <TheFuzzball> does anyone else have this problem?
[14:47] <stdin> !flash
[14:47] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:48] <TheFuzzball> thanks
[14:48] <oleh_> I have audigy sound card and it's doesn't work correectly. What's I must do... I install LINUX at first time....
[14:49] <oleh_> Pease help
[14:49] <stdin> !sound | try this
[14:49] <ubotu> try this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:49] <crashev> nosrednaekim: I dont seem to have installed kino, I wonder because my multimedia keys work, but what application handles it, still cant find..
[14:50] <stdin> crashev: the kernel and Xorg mostly
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  : )
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj!
[14:52] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[14:53] <BluesKaj> wonder if tarin was able to solve the dhcp prob
[14:53] <joseph> for some reason, i can load the screen saver list from kcontrol as root, but when i view that list as any other user, it is empty.  can anyone help me figure that out?
[14:53] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: no... at least not by 11:30 when I had to go ;)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> yeah, nosrednaekim i hit the sack shortly thereafter too...it was already 30mins past my bedtime :)
[14:54] <Dragonath> if adept messes up, how do I make kubuntu understand that there's nothing using the package database thingie?
[14:55] <Jack111> hi
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: and about an hour pst mine XD
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[14:55] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:55] <Dragonath> ah thanks
[14:56] <Jack111> i have got the problem that firefox wont play quicktime files, read many howto, and the mplayer is properly installed, it still wont work..
[14:56] <BluesKaj> we're getting a lot of those , adept notifier/updater is failing a lot on gutsy it seems
[14:56] <joseph> BluesKaj: it happened with me.  i had to upgrade the packages manually
[14:56] <stdin> BluesKaj: failed a lot on feisty too
[14:57] <stdin> and edgy
[14:57] <stdin> and dapper...
[14:57] <Dragonath> it hasn't failed me once yet, but I guess the problem was that I was trying to install java sdks while eclipse was running
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> XD
[14:58] <joseph> anyone have an idea about my screen saver problem?
[14:58] <hw_> After upgrading to 7.10 I get "This client is too old to work with working copy" when using eSvn. Any ideas howto fix this... ?
[14:59] <crashev> stdin: it looks like there is some external application for handling it...
[14:59] <Dragonath> maybe the screen saver files are readable only by root?
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> hw_: eh... what is eSVN? a client or the server.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Jack111, do a 'about:plugins' in the FF addressbar and see if Totem 2.20.0 plugin is installed under quicktime
[15:01] <joseph> Dragonath: that's possible but i haven't changed their permissions.  where are those files located so i can check their perms?
[15:01] <hw_> nosrednaekim: Its a Qt client
[15:01] <Dragonath> I have no idea, joseph
[15:01] <joseph> ok
[15:01] <nosrednaekim> hw_: oh, ok. IDK then, can you do svn up from the command line?
[15:01] <Dragonath> perhaps running kcontrol from a terminal would help?
[15:01] <joseph> how would that help?
[15:02] <hw_> nosrednaekim: yes
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> Dragonath: maybe
[15:02] <joseph> it doesn't make any difference; kcontrol exits normally
[15:02] <Dragonath> well maybe you'd see where it tries to read the files from, and the errors
[15:02] <joseph> there aren't any errors, though
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> hw_: is there a newer version of eSVN avaiable?
[15:03] <joseph> does anyone know where kde's screen savers are located?
[15:03] <nosrednaekim> joseph: I can check... one moment
[15:03] <joseph> thanks
[15:03] <hw_> nosrednaekim: that comes with 7.10...
[15:04] <fdoving> joseph: /usr/bin/*.kss
[15:04] <joseph> fdoving: thanks
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: beat me to it <_<
[15:04] <joseph> there were only two files revealed there, fdoving
[15:04] <joseph> and both of them are readable by everyone
[15:04] <joseph> and executable by everyone
[15:04] <fdoving> joseph: then you don't have the kscreensaver package installed.
[15:05] <Jack111> BluesKaj: thanks, no, i dont..to make sure here is what i have http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2483/
[15:05] <fdoving> joseph: what's your problem?
[15:05] <joseph> fdoving: i can view the screen saver list in kcontrol as root, but not as any other user.
[15:05] <Jack111> BluesKaj: so i dont need the mplayer, but the totem?
[15:06] <fdoving> joseph: interessting. done anything special?
[15:06] <oleh_> How work Kubuntu Device Database?My hardware data has been sent to server. And? I must wait for something?
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> joseph: what does "apt-cache policy kscreensaver" say?
[15:06] <fdoving> oleh_: no, it's just an huge database of users hardware specs.
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> are those specs ever used?
[15:07] <fdoving> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[15:07] <joseph> nosrednaekim: well, i just reinstalled it (doesn't make any difference to my problem, though):
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> joseph: so what does "dpkg -L kscreensaver" say?
[15:08] <fdoving> joseph: so you have no screensavers in the list, or a few, or one?
[15:08] <joseph> the output to apt-cache policy kscreensaver:  http://pastebin.com/d47be06da
[15:08] <joseph> fdoving: none
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Jack111, yes you have the right enabled totem plugin for quicktime media
[15:09] <Jack111> BluesKaj: still dont work...
[15:09] <joseph> dpkg -L output:  http://pastebin.com/d798d1923
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> joseph: thanks
[15:10] <fdoving> joseph: looks like your screensavers are there.
[15:10] <joseph> yeah
[15:10] <joseph> i just can't configure them heh
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> joseph: looks fine... odd
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Jack111, hangon lemme check around a bit
[15:10] <joseph> and all those screensavers have these permissions:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
[15:11] <joseph> so if all the screensavers are there, and their permissions are appropriate, what else could cause this problem?
[15:12] <joseph> heh, everyone's out of answers then, i take it?
[15:13] <fdoving> joseph: you can try to run 'kbuildsycoca' from the commandline, then try again.
[15:13] <joseph> fdoving: i did that yesterday, and it had no effect
[15:14] <joseph> i can do it again, though, if you want and paste the output?
[15:14] <fdoving> i don't need the output.
[15:14] <joseph> ok
[15:14] <joseph> it doesn't say anything about screen savers in the output anyway
[15:15] <fdoving> joseph: you don't have even Blank Screen showing up in your list of screensavers?
[15:15] <joseph> fdoving: the list is empty when kcontrol is run as any other user besides root
[15:17] <fdoving> joseph: checked permissions for files in /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers ?
[15:18] <joseph> hmm
[15:18] <joseph> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7397 2007-10-12 16:52 zoom.desktop
[15:18] <joseph> those perms are correct, though, aren't they?
[15:19] <fdoving> joseph: yep.
[15:19] <joseph> :(
[15:20] <joseph> so if it's not permissions what could it be?
[15:20] <joseph> i asked in #kde and Sho_ said: <Sho_> joseph: Sounds like your environment ($KDEDIRS) might be set up wrong
[15:20] <joseph> but he said he didn't have any time to help me evaluate that possibility
[15:21] <joseph> if i echo $KDEDIRS there is nothing
[15:21] <joseph> but i've never messed with any environment variables
[15:21] <fdoving> joseph: is this a clean gutsy install?
[15:22] <joseph> fdoving: no, it's an upgrade from feisty.
[15:22] <joseph> however, after the initial upgrade to gutsy, things worked normally
[15:22] <joseph> maybe it got screwed up after some update
[15:22] <joseph> not sure though.
[15:22] <fdoving> I have an updated feisty too, should work just fine.
[15:22] <joseph> yeah, it should :)
[15:22] <fdoving> do you have the kubuntu-desktop metapackage installed?
[15:22] <Dr_willis> since theres no $KDEDIRS you are using the default - i belive.
[15:23] <joseph> i   kubuntu-desktop                 - Kubuntu desktop system
[15:23] <joseph> fdoving: yes
[15:23] <hydrogen> hey there fdoving
[15:23] <fdoving> hi hydrogen.
[15:23] <hydrogen> havn't seen you in a while!
[15:23] <Radi01> Encryption of hard drive/ How to?
[15:24] <fdoving> hydrogen: busy with kids and all. been having a few days off from work now, finally got some computing time :)
[15:25] <hydrogen> fdoving: :)
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Jack111, i don't see mozilla-mplayer on pastebin list, nor do i see totem-mozilla or xine-plugin
[15:26] <joseph> so if it's not permissions, what could it be?
[15:28] <joseph> i'm going to reinstall kcontrol and see if that makes any difference
[15:28] <risto> is there any channel for zend framework ?
[15:28] <fdoving> joseph: probably doesn't, you can try 'kcmshell screensaver' from Run COmmand, (alt+f2)
[15:28] <fdoving> joseph: or a konsole, would give some output maybe.
[15:28] <joseph> k
[15:29] <joseph> there is no output
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Jack111, make sure you also have libxine1-ffmpeg installed
[15:30] <dm> Hello. I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a clean hd. How can I import a KMail account from an old ~/.kde/share/... dir?
[15:31] <Jack111> BluesKaj: libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.???
[15:31] <Jack111> BluesKaj: but thanks anyway
[15:31] <joseph> fdoving: in the .xsession-errors file, i do get several lines complaining about not being able to get control of keyboard/mouse (already grabbed)
[15:32] <fdoving> joseph: ah, might have found the problem. did you edit the KMenu?
[15:32] <joseph> i have in the past, yeah
[15:32] <fdoving> joseph: did you move the System menu?
[15:33] <joseph> possibly
[15:33] <fdoving> it needs to be in the root of the Kmenu
[15:33] <fdoving> for screensavers to work.
[15:33] <joseph> it is
[15:34] <genii> fdoving: Interesting, never knew that about System menu/screensaver idiosyncrasy
[15:35] <joseph> the system menu is in the root of the KMenu
[15:38] <Dresken> Just installed NetBeans 6.0 but It didn't appear on the K menu, any idea why?
[15:38] <brightstone1967> any experience on nvidea with kubuntu?
[15:38] <Dr_willis> nvidia works fine on my 3 machines with kubuntu
[15:38] <nosrednaekim> brightstone1967: works fine.
[15:38] <joseph> fdoving: so yeah, the System menu is in the root of the KMenu; that is, it's not nested into any other menu
[15:38] <Dr_willis> 5500, 6800 and 8800 cards
[15:38] <brightstone1967> thanks
[15:39] <rockprincess> brightstone1967: you can add it manually to the KMenu
[15:40] <brightstone1967> thanks rockprincess
[15:42] <joseph> ok, so the list is empty even if i run kcontrol as root
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> joseph: I think youcan manually start kscreensaver with an argument.
[15:43] <joseph> when i run kcontrol as root, i do get this error:  Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[15:43] <rockprincess> joseph: upps my last message that i sent to brightstone1967 was actually meant to you......you can add it manually to the KMenu!
[15:43] <fdoving> joseph: how do you run it as root?
[15:43] <rockprincess> joseph: that's a usual error, from what i see
[15:43] <joseph> fdoving: i did sudo kcontrol from a konsole
[15:43] <fdoving> joseph: sudo is wrong. use kdesudo
[15:43] <joseph> ok
[15:44] <parabol0x> kdesu
[15:44] <fdoving> kdesu is kdesudo in gutsy. but yeah.
[15:44] <joseph> ok, using kdesu kcontrol, i get the list
[15:44] <fdoving> right.
[15:44] <Jucato> fdoving: you're advocating kdesudo now? :D
[15:44] <fdoving> Jucato: well, it's harder to write kdesu.distrib :)
[15:45] <brightstone1967> does any of you have suggestions on sources.list
[15:45] <Jucato> O.o
[15:45] <joseph> ok, so it loads using kdesu but not as normal user
[15:45] <joseph> still.
[15:45] <joseph> heh
[15:45] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[15:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[15:45] <Jucato> brightstone1967: what about it?
[15:46] <brightstone1967> Jucato: to have stable new handy sources / applications of any sort, gamez or office whatever
[15:46] <joseph> what is the executable for the kscreensaver?
[15:46] <The_Machine> anyone have problems burning iso images to DVD with K3b and has fixed the problem?
[15:46] <joseph> rockprincess: what do yo umean add it manually to the kmenu?
[15:46] <Dr_willis> brightstone1967,  thers games and office apps in the defaults. :) you could enable the extra repos.
[15:46] <Dr_willis> !repo
[15:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[15:46] <Jucato> brightstone1967: everything that's supported are in the default sources.list already, including games and lots of other stuff
[15:47] <Jucato> Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages (including libraries and utilities). That's a lot of stuff :)
[15:47] <fdoving> joseph: just to test, try to move ~/.config/menus to ~/.config/menus.bak, then try to run 'kbuildsycoca' and then run 'kcmshell screensavers'
[15:47] <brightstone1967> sometimes you hear about medibuntu and stuff like that...
[15:47] <joseph> fdoving: ok
[15:48] <rockprincess> joseph: you want to add netmeans to your kmenu?
[15:48] <Jucato> !medibuntu
[15:48] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:48] <fdoving> Jucato: kdesudo in bzr is currently getting better, by the way. most very evil bugs are closed. i still like kdesu better, but that's me. :)
[15:48] <Jucato> fdoving: thank you :)
[15:48] <Jucato> you and Tonio rock :)
[15:49] <fdoving> i haven't done much lately, he's been hacking away the last couple of days.
[15:49] <brightstone1967> thanks for all the information!
[15:50]  * genii sips and contemplates kdesudo su -
[15:50] <brightstone1967> i go from ubuntu to kubuntu right now, so gnome to kde, hope everything goes well
[15:51] <rockprincess> brightstone1967: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[15:52] <brightstone1967> ]rockprincess: no made a backup and install from scratch
[15:52] <rockprincess> brightstone1967: i see
[15:52] <brightstone1967> I really SWITCH
[15:52] <SR-latch> is anyone subscribed to the list?
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> genii: ever tried "sudo bash" XD
[15:53] <The_Machine> maybe it's linux, maybe it's k3b, but these burning problems in kubuntu are ridiculous.
[15:53] <rabby> where to find ltconfig?
[15:53] <genii> nosrednaekim: Not lately :)
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> The_Machine: try another burning program.
[15:54] <SR-latch> hahahha "kubuntu 7.10 is really suks to install"
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> and maybe its the cds themselves
[15:54] <genii> rabby: iFconfig but lowercase F
[15:54] <The_Machine> nosrednaekim, what can burn DVD iso images?
[15:54] <rockprincess> The_Machine: i haven
[15:54] <joseph> fdoving: kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'screensavers'.
[15:54] <brightstone1967> I just use cdrecord (no problem ever!)
[15:54] <rockprincess> The_Machine: i haven't had any problems with k3b lately...what are you problems?
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> The_Machine: gnome baker probably can
[15:54] <rabby> genii: ifconfig is not what i am looking for
[15:55] <fdoving> joseph: drop the tailing s. 'screensaver'
[15:55] <Lynoure> The_Machine: k3b can too...
[15:55] <rabby> genii: ltconfig is it called and seems to play with libtools
[15:55] <joseph> k
[15:55] <The_Machine> rockprincess, they're pretty well documented everywhere..  http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=7851
[15:55] <The_Machine> Lynoure, this problem is regarding k3b.
[15:55] <The_Machine> :P
[15:55] <Lynoure> The_Machine: Oh, I only saw your question.
[15:55] <The_Machine> or 'growisofs'
[15:56] <The_Machine> it seems like it's been a problem for about 3-4 years
[15:56] <joseph> fdoving: ok, the list loads now
[15:56] <Lynoure> The_Machine: what kind of problems are you having?
[15:56] <The_Machine> and nobody has really solved it
[15:56] <The_Machine> Lynoure, read my posts!
[15:56] <The_Machine> :P
[15:56] <The_Machine> i just pasted the problem
[15:56] <genii> rabby: Ah, libtoolconfig
[15:56] <fdoving> joseph: good, then your menu was the problem.
[15:56] <Lynoure> The_Machine: ok, ok...
[15:56] <rockprincess> The_Machine: cheers, i'll have a look....
[15:56] <joseph> fdoving: ok.  so will the menu rebuild after login/logout then?
[15:56] <Dresken> Anyone has any idea? <_<
[15:56] <The_Machine> thanks rockprincess - you, erm..  rock
[15:57] <rabby> genii: where does it hide?
[15:57] <Lynoure> The_Machine: Sorry if I pushed some button accidentally.
[15:57] <The_Machine> rockprincess, just like most people who are reporting the problem, it isn't the hardware.
[15:57] <fdoving> joseph: if you want to, you can restore your previous menu, by moving ~/.config/menus.bak back to ~/.config/menus - otherwise leave it as it is, and you can also remove ~/.config/menus.bak if you don't care about your old menu.
[15:57] <joseph> fdoving: if i leave it as-is, will the menus be rebuilt autmoatically?
[15:57] <The_Machine> works fine under windows, even in a VMware VM, and in knoppix as well
[15:58] <fdoving> joseph: it'll be like it currently is, default kubuntu menu.
[15:58] <rockprincess> The_Machine: don't you think it's a kde issue, rather than a kubuntu issue?
[15:58] <genii> rabby: I know it comes with package libtool ... if you have it someplace on your box do an updated then locate <name> or find <name>
[15:58] <The_Machine> rockprincess, they're so closely related and i'm so inexperienced, it's hard for me to say
[15:58] <joseph> fdoving: ok
[15:58] <genii> *updatedb
[15:58] <fdoving> joseph: your old menu, with your changes, is currently stored in ~/.config/menus.bak
[15:58] <The_Machine> again, there are so many bugs posted around it sounds like there isn't any central place for people to work on it
[15:58] <joseph> fdoving: except i changed .config/ to config.bak/
[15:58] <The_Machine> really frustrating.
[15:59] <The_Machine> BTW, i burn Data/Music CDs just fine w/ the same burner and k3b
[15:59] <The_Machine> it seems to be isolated to DVDs
[15:59] <fdoving> joseph: then it might affect some other apps too, but you will most likely not notice much. compiz, among others.
[15:59] <rabby> genii: i have libtool installed, but anyway the config app is missing though :(
[15:59] <The_Machine> i'm going to try gnomebaker really quick, brb
[15:59] <rabby> can not compile a nice app i need without it :(
[15:59] <joseph> fdoving: ok.  so i can view the list now, but clicking on the lock desktop applet doesn't work, nor does ctrl+alt+L
[16:00] <brightstone1967> in that case i would suggest brasero
[16:00] <genii> rabby: I think debian/ubuntu may have a different name than ltconfig, perhaps ld-something
[16:00] <brightstone1967> don' t have too good experience with gnomebaker
[16:00] <rockprincess> The_Machine: it would be quite useful to report your bug(s) to http://bugs.kde.org/ and to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ in order to resolve the issue....i know it's a pain, but it is indeed useful and it helps the developer working on the problem....
[16:00] <Lynoure> The_Machine: and you can burn DVDs fine with something else than k3b?
[16:00] <fdoving> joseph: you can browse the list of screensavers, enable screensavers and lock doesn't work?
[16:00] <rabby> ldconfig exists, may i use that instead?
[16:01] <joseph> fdoving: correct
[16:01] <joseph> i can test them from kcontrol, though
[16:01] <brightstone1967> Lynourre: #cdrecord
[16:01] <fdoving> joseph: try again with anohter screensaver. Blank Screen, for example.
[16:01] <genii> rabby: Have you installed package build-essential ?
[16:01] <joseph> blank screen is the one enabled
[16:01] <Lynoure> brightstone1967: not ready to join other channels to solve someone's problem, sorry
[16:01] <fdoving> joseph: ok, try Banner then.
[16:02] <The_Machine> Lynoure, again, i'm trying now
[16:02] <joseph> fdoving: still doesn't work
[16:02] <rabby> genii: no, but give me a min and i will do
[16:02] <The_Machine> rockprincess, there are a billion bugs on it already
[16:02] <The_Machine> from years back.
[16:02] <joseph> fdoving: maybe logging out/logging in will fix that?
[16:02] <rockprincess> The_Machine: when did it happen?
[16:02] <fdoving> joseph: try.
[16:02] <rabby> genii: didn't help
[16:02] <joseph> k
[16:03] <The_Machine> gnomebaker just gave me the same error.
[16:03] <Lynoure> The_Machine: Is this on all types on DVD medium? Have you tried on a slower speed setting?
[16:03] <brightstone1967> tail -f /var/log/...
[16:03] <The_Machine> Lynoure, yea, i have tried it on a slwoer speed.
[16:04] <maltaethiron> !mplayer
[16:04] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[16:04] <The_Machine> brb
[16:04] <rockprincess> The_Machine: tried NeroLinux?
[16:05] <genii> rabby: looking into it
[16:05] <The_Machine> rockprincess, in as much as i want to get dvd burning to work, i'm kind of pissed that such a simple function is broken
[16:05] <The_Machine> :)
[16:05] <The_Machine> going to check on something
[16:05] <The_Machine> brb
[16:06] <The_Machine> rockprincess, i'm seeing stuff like this EVERYWHERE:  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-91842.html
[16:07] <The_Machine> that's from the beginning of 2006 - i can't believe it isn't solved.
[16:09] <The_Machine> and more:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/91210
[16:09] <Lynoure> The_Machine: I had that on a laptop once, but unfortunately did not have time to investigate it, as it turned out to burn fine on dvd+rw
[16:09] <rockprincess> The_Machine: i don't understand this...sorry, i burn DVDs on DVD-R, DVD+R but mostly on DVD+RW on a weekly basis!!!!
[16:09] <lovre> hey ppl
[16:10] <rockprincess> The_Machine: which version of k3b are you using?
[16:10] <The_Machine> rockprincess, it isn't k3b
[16:10] <The_Machine> i got the same error with gnomebaker
[16:10] <lovre> im trying to install a game from an iso file. It asks me to insert CD, but i have mounted the iso in /media/cdrom0, why doesnt it recognize this, and did i mount it to the right place?
[16:11] <lovre> any1?
[16:12] <The_Machine> this is bull$&!&
[16:12] <joseph> fdoving: logging out/logging in didn't do anything
[16:12] <Dr_willis> lovre,  with some games ive taken the contents from the cd. copied to a directory, then installed the game FROM that dir. that way no cd changing is needed
[16:12] <joseph> i can test the screen savers from kcontrol, but i can't lock the screen using the lock desktop applet or by ctrl+alt+L
[16:13] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  yep. from what ive read on the burning issue is that it seems to be some sort of kernel issues (or so the threads sort of imply, but they are still troubbleshooting it) I have 1 out of 3 machines with the provblem also.
[16:13] <genii> rabby: Aaah, libtool does not come anymore with ltconfig and has been deprecated now in Debian/ubuntu. You may want package autotools-dev and possibly also autoconf
[16:13] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, yeah you're right.
[16:13] <Lynoure> The_Machine: and you already have dvd+rw-tools installed?
[16:13] <genii> Work emergency, flood.
[16:14] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, it's just ridiculous that i can have compiz working the way it does but I can't burn a DVD
[16:14] <rockprincess> The_Machine: which kernel version are you using?
[16:14] <The_Machine> and that it works fine in knoppix and windows
[16:14] <The_Machine> and works in windows EVEN IN A Virtual Machine!!
[16:14] <The_Machine> Ugh!  Frustrating!
[16:14] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  i rember ages ago when just getting a cd burner going was a kernel recompile and a week of reading...
[16:14] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, heh. The true state of "linux on the desktop" imho
[16:15] <Dr_willis> its possible the switch to the libata  has caused other issues..
[16:15] <joseph> fdoving: do you have any other ideas by chance?
[16:15] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  you dont want to get me started on my daily 'windows on the desktop' issues. :)
[16:15] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, ah, really?
[16:15]  * The_Machine never has any
[16:15] <The_Machine> and i'm not any silly fan boy
[16:15] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah right
[16:15] <lovre> Dr_willis: i downloaded the game as iso, and an install script. Now the script is searching for the CD-ROM wich i dont have, and i mount the iso but it doesnt find it. Is there any place that i should mount iso file, so the script can find it
[16:15]  * The_Machine has been using linux for his workstation for 3 years..  and Windows in VMs this whole time
[16:15] <Dr_willis> Today. kept getting a popup - about how a service couldent post a message.. so i looked at it.. closed it.. then 2 min later it poped up again..  sigh.
[16:16] <joseph> what's the actual executable for the kscreensavers?
[16:16] <The_Machine> rockprincess, i'm checking, one sec
[16:16] <Dr_willis> lovre,  its possible the installer  has options as to where to look for the cd.
[16:16] <Dr_willis> lovre,  or perhaps  the script has some lines you can edit to set the path.