[00:00] <snadge> now i understand why some articles have talked up cloud providers having to buy more hardware
[00:01] <anselm> @snadge, Not diable hyperthreading is a option
[00:01] <snadge> which also explains why apple has claimed the mitigation can reduce the performance of some workloads by up to 40%
[00:02] <anselm> not a option for me
[00:02] <snadge> well then  you remain vulnerable.. basically
[00:02] <anselm> Yeah
[00:02] <snadge> that is terrible news for intel.. and I hope AMD do well out of this
[00:03] <anselm> me too, maybe ARM will make desktop chips
[00:04] <anselm> Everything I own is Intel except for my server which is AMD
[00:05] <llcy> what is it this vulnerability everyone talks about?
[00:05] <llcy> I recently got a microcode update on ubuntu, is that related to that?
[00:07] <weaksauce> yep
[00:07] <anselm> @llcy, check out mdsattacks.com
[00:09] <llcy> no joke, can I disable the fixes for all those security updates? I don't want to buy a new cpu, my existing cpu seems to get slower by the day...
[00:10] <anselm> You can disable hyperthreading which really isn't a option for me
[00:11] <anselm> Can't afford to buy new chips for 3 systems
[00:11] <llcy> what was the impact of this last patch?
[00:11] <anselm> Not sure
[00:12] <JoeLlama> ok once gnome tweak is installed, where do I find it? :/
[00:12] <llcy> gnome-tweak-tool
[00:13] <JoeLlama> right
[00:13] <JoeLlama> and um... where is it llcy?
[00:14] <llcy> `whereis gnome-tweak-tool`, i guess :D
[00:14] <llcy> i dont have it installed. I mean, if you want to run it, it should be in your gnome menu or you should be able to run it via the terminal
[00:14] <JoeLlama> yes...
[00:14] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[00:14] <llcy> `whereis gnome-tweak-tool` should give you the binary path
[00:15] <JoeLlama> oic
[00:15] <llcy>  /usr/lib i think
[00:17] <JoeLlama> ok
[00:17] <anselm> Its called tweaks in gnome menu
[00:18] <JoeLlama> yes :)
[00:18] <JoeLlama> thanks llcy
[00:18] <llcy> there is also `dconf-editor`, a similar app. if whatever you are trying to change isn't in gnome-tweak-tool, try dconf
[00:18] <llcy> np
[00:18] <JoeLlama> it seems to be a python file :/
[00:18] <llcy> you did install gnome-tweak-tool though right
[00:19] <JoeLlama> I did
[00:19] <anselm> Read up on dconf-editor you can mess up your system
[00:19] <JoeLlama> hrm
[00:19] <JoeLlama> how do I just run the gnome tweak tool?
[00:19] <llcy> run `gnome-tweak-tool` on the terminal
[00:19] <llcy> oh and hold up, try `gnome-tweaks`
[00:20] <j0seph> hello everyone. in light of the zombieload exploit, is there a use case in which it would be acceptable to leave hyperthreading enabled? for instance, I am currently on my single-user laptop and only really install software from trusted sources.
[00:20] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[00:21] <llcy> and like anselm said, it is named `Tweaks` on the menu. the menu should pop-up when you press the super/windows key i think.
[00:22] <JoeLlama> nope it idn't
[00:22] <JoeLlama> I figure it out I have google
[00:23] <llcy> wait you mean you dont have the menu entry at all?
[00:24] <gambl0re> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/t9md/t9md/1675510eaa1b789aeffbc49c1ae3b1e8e7dceabe/img/vim-choosewin.gif
[00:24] <gambl0re> how do you get the filename to show up like that at the bottom using vim. is it just some custom theme?
[00:24] <anselm> Darn just did a quick read on MDS it's a remote vulnerability
[00:24] <anselm> Might have to disable hyper threading
[00:24] <teb92tebs> I need the command to install software to boot a iso in grub again someone gave me the command to do so to boot iso from grub I just cant remember how to do it again I was succiful
[00:25] <JoeLlama> I think I need gnome-shell
[00:25] <llcy> JoeLlama, are you running gnome?
[00:25] <anselm> @JoeLlama, What DE are you running
[00:25] <JoeLlama> I don't think so llcy
[00:25] <JoeLlama> dunno
[00:26] <llcy> are you using ubuntu?
[00:26] <JoeLlama> yes, xubuntu
[00:26] <teb92tebs> yes
[00:26] <JoeLlama> works nice :)
[00:26] <llcy> ah that's not gnome then I think
[00:26] <llcy> why did you need gnome-tweak-tool for?
[00:26] <JoeLlama> to tell the computer what to do when the lid is closed
[00:27] <JoeLlama> when I close the lid the computer stops working I guess
[00:27] <llcy> in any case, i imagine gnome tweak tool wouldn't work for you even if you got it working -- since your DE wouldn't listen to the gnome conf files :p
[00:27] <anselm> I don't use XFCE but it shoulod have a option
[00:27] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[00:27] <JoeLlama> how do I remove the tool?
[00:28] <llcy> sudo apt remove --purge gnome-tweak-tool
[00:28] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[00:29] <JoeLlama> nope
[00:30] <llcy> sudo apt remove --purge gnome-tweaks
[00:30] <llcy> maybe
[00:30] <JoeLlama> command -purge not understood in combination with the other opinos
[00:30] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[00:30] <JoeLlama> nope
[00:30] <JoeLlama> ah well
[00:30] <anselm> --purge
[00:31] <llcy> you have to use double hyphens, not single, maybe thats the issue?
[00:31] <teb92tebs> I think it odd that my audio stop working for some reason I had it working before I just do not now what happen
[00:31] <teb92tebs> crying
[00:31] <llcy> in the meantime, check if there is an app called `power manager` or `power management` or something. or try running `xfce4-power-manager`
[00:32] <llcy> this seems to be the power management settings for xfce. you should have the laptop lid options there
[00:34] <JoeLlama> oh :)
[00:34] <JoeLlama> fixed (:
[00:34] <JoeLlama> I got a lot to learn
[00:34] <llcy> and try it. sometimes these apps don't work so well, so don't think it is working just because you set it up :p
[00:34] <anselm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/MDS
[00:34] <JoeLlama> so um... is there another way to get the system to understand what to do when I close the lid>
[00:34] <JoeLlama> ?
[00:35] <llcy> have you checked out the power manager thing?
[00:35] <JoeLlama> nope! but I will... I was looking for that
[00:35] <JoeLlama> where is the power manager... lemme check on the menu bar
[00:36] <JoeLlama> oh... there's something :)
[00:36] <llcy> try running `xfce4-power-manager` on the terminal if its not in the menu
[00:36] <anselm> @JoeLlama, Might be in settings??
[00:36] <JoeLlama> heh done :)
[00:36] <llcy> i think it is its own app
[00:36] <JoeLlama> no no power manager thingy that's where it was
[00:37] <JoeLlama> no longer locks... just switches off the display
[00:37] <llcy> so is your issue fixed now?
[00:38] <JoeLlama> yes all of them for the moment llcy thanks
[00:38] <JoeLlama> xubuntu works nicely on all of these small notebooks I have
[00:38] <JoeLlama> a little slow at times and...
[00:38] <JoeLlama> won't handle a large video but...
[00:38] <JoeLlama> works :)
[00:38] <llcy> neat. well, you are running xfce, so do your searches with that keyword instead of gnome :p
[00:38] <JoeLlama> oh um... k
[00:39] <llcy> the budgie DE seems to run well with <1gb ram. its not bad as gnome, if you decide to switch from xfce at some point on, try ubuntu budgie first
[00:39] <JoeLlama> I have a bunch of 1.6 GHz boxes...  small low power CPUs
[00:39] <JoeLlama> oh ok budgie
[00:44] <JoeLlama> this might be beyond the scope of this channel but I would like to have a Real-Time Kernel for a couple of applications...  like RTLinux or something
[00:47] <llcy> well, you just learned which DE you have been using :p you are going to have a bad time if you start messing with the kernels right away
[00:49] <llcy> i cant even find a lot of material on rtlinux when i search for it, if you stumble upon some issue you are probably going to need to solve it entirely on your own since there isn't a lot of support
[00:50] <JoeLlama> oh no no not gunna mess with kernels atm :) heh
[00:50] <JoeLlama> normallly, I run uCOS/II (www.micrium.com)
[00:50] <JoeLlama> I'm good with that stuff
[00:50] <JoeLlama> what is DE llcy?
[00:50] <llcy> desktop environment
[00:51] <llcy> gnome, budgie, xfce, kde
[00:51] <JoeLlama> ah gotcha
[00:51] <JoeLlama> yes xfce
[00:57] <weaksauce> is removing the keyboard-configuration package to try and reinstall it going to cause issues?
[00:57] <weaksauce> https://gist.github.com/fiveNinePlusR/f929867c22e3b60a497c5f81dc8b5e49
[01:00] <OnkelTem> Hi folks. When I connect my usb headset (Logitech H390) I hear myself. Any ideas why?
[01:02] <llcy> weaksauce, what does it even do? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/keyboard-configuration
[01:03] <weaksauce> i'm not sure but kbd, keyboard-configuration, console-setup and console-setup-linux are all borked
[01:04] <llcy> keyboard conf seems to be only about creating one keyboard config file
[01:04] <weaksauce> seems like it's not important and i could probably remove and reinstall it
[01:05] <llcy> kbd isnt even installed for me, so its not default or anything, you can definitely remove that one if you are also interested in that :p
[01:05] <weaksauce> though when i looked it up using apt show it was listed as "important"
[01:06] <llcy> well as long as you place it back soon enough :p
[01:06] <llcy> maybe it will ask you for the locale values when you are installing it again
[01:06] <weaksauce> perhaps
[01:07] <weaksauce> not too worried as i have snapshot backups
[01:07] <llcy> console-setup also seems fine to remove
[01:08] <llcy> i think those are like utility packages that are meant to be called when you are doing some DE upgrade or something.
[01:08] <llcy> how did you manage to break them?
[01:08] <weaksauce> do-release-upgrade
[01:09] <weaksauce> i guess it's probably better to just spin up a new vm and migrate the data
[01:09] <weaksauce> but lazy
[01:09] <llcy> oooh. maybe they are borked because you dont have the conf files now :D
[01:10] <llcy> and removing and installing them will create the conf files. my working theory
[01:10] <weaksauce> maybe. i did a remove and install and same error
[01:10] <weaksauce> maybe i need a purge
[01:10] <llcy> do you have the `/etc/default/keyboard` file?
[01:11] <weaksauce> yeah
[01:13] <llcy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1770482 maybe this is the bug
[01:14] <weaksauce> probably
[01:15] <llcy> "Work around:  Deprecate Ubuntu" well its settled then
[01:15] <weaksauce> lol
[01:17] <llcy> you should totally remove the package AND delete `/etc/default/keyboard`, maybe then itll see that there is no conf and ask you for input?
[01:48] <MannyLNJ> When I ssh into one of my systems. I am greeted with the message Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts. Check your Internet connection or proxy settings  Yes I seem to be able to get online because apt-get update and apt-get upgrade works. Any idea what could be incorrect
[01:48] <jcotton> can your curl that specific url?
[01:49] <jcotton> I can from here
[01:50] <MannyLNJ> jcotton, I cannot. It says -bash: https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts: No such file or directory
[01:50] <jcotton> did you literally only type "https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts"
[01:50] <jcotton> or did you type "curl https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts"
[01:51] <MannyLNJ> jcotton, I typed curl https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts   Now the system I am SSH'ing into is supposed to be a DNS and DHCP server for my lan. If I do it from the computer I am on the page loads.
[02:07] <mrxanabos> hai
[02:15] <teb00f8ej> I need some help to boot an iso in grub there is a way to do so I just need help please
[02:15] <teb00f8ej> ilove you guys
[02:17] <teb00f8ej> I need a to put a iso to grub to install for linux mini.iso please
[02:21] <teb00f8ej> is any one in chat
[02:37] <apetresc> Anyone have any first impressions on how badly today's intel-microcode update hurts performance?
[02:37] <apetresc> The Apple form of the mitigation disables SMP entirely and Apple's own announcement warns of a "40% decrease in performance", however that's measured
[02:38] <ChunkzZ> What can cause xorg to crash and stop my mouse/keyboard?
[02:39] <ChunkzZ> As soon as I startx I can't do nothing but restart
[02:40] <teb00f8ej> I need help puting a iso image ingrub so I can installl upgrade
[02:42] <noraatepernos> I am curious if someone can determine the cause of this ufw block https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jstpjDSRmp/
[02:45] <teb00f8ej> how can I insall grub to iso sudo apt install I dont rember what the command
[02:49] <jcotton> apetresc: iirc the macOS patch did not disable hyperthreading
[02:49] <jcotton> it just allows you to
[03:15] <tbrown> is there anyone here that can help me
[03:15] <jdr> Just ask
[03:16] <tbrown> jdr: I need to ask how to boot an iso image in grub I just did it before but I dont know how to to again I installed it throw apt get install grub-image but that not the right command
[03:18] <jdr> Download the ISO, create a grub entry, and then run apt update-grub
[03:19] <DarkByD3sign>  Hi all, I'm wondering if it's a bug that Ubuntu natively doesn't support 3440x1440 when running on vmware?
[03:19] <DarkByD3sign> I've also noticed this with Kali linux too.
[03:20] <jdr> https://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to-boot-linux-iso-images-directly-from-your-hard-drive/
[03:20] <jdr> tbrown: ^^
[03:20] <guiverc2> DarkByD3sign, if you get the same in Kali, it can't be a Ubuntu native bug can it;  maybe linux (kernel) related but we support Ubuntu, nor generic linux
[03:22] <Bashing-om> tbrown: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot .
[03:23] <DarkByD3sign> guiverc2 noted thanks.
[03:23] <guiverc2> tbrown, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples may also be useful
[03:29] <teb00f8ej> it tells me to load kernel I dont understand
[03:39] <killown> what is this ubuntu 19 feature, where I type ^ utf8 characters and this show accentuation before I type the letter, this is killing ssh, no accentuation works on ssh, how do I disable that
[03:41] <killown> SendEnv LANG LC_* is the issue
[03:44] <MannyLNJ> So can someone please help me fix my DNS issues? <IP_ADDRESS> is my Ubuntu 18.04 that is supposed to be running DNSMASQ but it can't resolve anything locally. I believe my other systems are using it for DNS lookups and that is working
[04:07] <tatertotz> operating under the "assumption" something is wrong with just simply using the dns your isp is providng you with...(and i hate assuming)
[04:07] <stoned> is it possible to share an already started gnu 'screen' session with two people?
[04:08] <tatertotz> if you went with something with less "administrative" effort for you personally...like maybe a RasPi/PiHOLE solution for example, something that wouldn't be as steep a up hill curve of administrative efforts
[04:11] <MannyLNJ> tatertotz, the issue is I have read reportsthat my ISP tracks DNS requests on their servers.
[04:12] <tatertotz> stoned i once watched a power point presentation from a linux desktop in a audience of lots of people in a "stadium" ...so it's safe to assume YES it's possible
[04:13] <MannyLNJ> tatertotz, and I don't want to buy more HW. My router's DHCP server is randomly hanging so I figured doing my own DNS/DHCP server would be best
[04:16] <tatertotz> ah one of those users...worried about being "tracked"
[04:16] <spiderman0101> hi! i have a problem with all apps from appstore and google play store. is possible my isp to change dns of them? as i no one is responding on my apps?
[04:17] <MannyLNJ_> tatertotz, indeed. I don't trust Optimum
[04:17] <spiderman0101> or facebook have a algorithm for tracking my profiles even if it has different credentials?
[04:17] <tatertotz> well you probably pay your ISP from your bank or credit card financial institution ($) which knowns your billing address and more, and good luck trying to boycott using money $
[04:17] <tatertotz> LOL
[04:18] <spiderman0101> hah
[04:20] <tatertotz> lol...you thought they'd "sell" you tech that actually gave you any real power lol
[05:14] <darkarmy> helo
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | darkarmy
[05:15] <z3r0_d> I’m unable to install kernel 4.15.0-50-generic on my xubuntu 18.04 install. It locks up somewhere in grub-mkconfig calling 30_uefi-firmwar or something
[05:15] <z3r0_d> any ideas? I’m booting off an external drive and I’ve tried turning off secure boot
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: can you pastebin the whole output to the channel, so volunteers can see whats going on?
[05:17] <z3r0_d> https://pastebin.com/7AgedD6G lotuspsychje
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: why did you have to dpkg reconfigure, apt asked it?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | z3r0_d can you try this?
[05:18] <z3r0_d> It never finishes, so to make it try again after a reboot that is what I’ve run
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: pastebin the whole output of apt update, lets see what it says there
[05:19] <z3r0_d> running apt upgrade now
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[05:22] <z3r0_d> I think it’s stuck again. https://pastebin.com/SQjwSdhG
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: progress 60% is the last i see?
[05:23] <z3r0_d> yeah, it’s still there
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: you also have external ppa's added to your system that could interfere with apt
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> but not sure yet its your case
[05:24] <z3r0_d> would those be in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: correct
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !sources | z3r0_d
[05:27] <z3r0_d> xubuntu doesn’t have the “manage repositories” interface shown on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources . I can pastebin my sources.list but I don’t think there’s anything weird there
[05:28] <darkarmy> helo
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonathonf/tup/ubuntu are non-vanilla sources, added externally
[05:32] <z3r0_d> ok. those are under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ not in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <z3r0_d> [which is why I wasn’t seeing them there]
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: try also a : sudo apt autoremove when apt is done working
[05:33] <z3r0_d> it will never be done working
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: where are we at now?
[05:34] <z3r0_d> no change, still 60% setting up grub-efi-amd64-signed
[05:34] <z3r0_d> so when I first did this update it tried to submit a bug to launchpad. launchpad things my bug is a dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-signed/+bug/1823209
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> lemme take a look
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed bionic
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> hmm shows in apt cache here
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !info grub2-signed bionic
[05:40] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: "sysop@x1804mini:~$ apt list grub-efi-amd64-signed >> grub-efi-amd64-signed/bionic-updates 1.93.14+2.02-2ubuntu8.13 amd64" .
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: sounds like a corrupt bootloader or uefi/legacy issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1767703
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: do you dualboot? singleboot ubuntu? uefi/legacy?
[05:45] <z3r0_d> uefi, xubuntu is installed on an external drive, windows on internal drive. grub on external drive
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: read #55 of the bug i posted above^ looks promising
[05:49] <z3r0_d> external drive that xubuntu is installed to is partitioned gpt and has EFI system partition
[05:50] <z3r0_d> I don’t know how else to check but I’m 99% sure linux is booting from EFI mode
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: https://www.learningpenguin.net/2018/07/13/fix-grub-efi-amd64-signed-package-failed-to-install-into-target/
[05:56] <z3r0_d> I’m not sure doing a clean install is an answer with much help. I can boot into older kernels fine like -44 or -40 but not -50
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: can you boot a previous kernel and try update there?
[05:57] <z3r0_d> that’s what I’m doing
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> right
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: maybe try to !ppapurge your external ppa's & packages first, then sudo apt autoremove, then try again updating
[06:00] <stephanie> test
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> stephanie: it works, we see you
[06:01] <kemper> Hi
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: if grub-efi-amd64-signed keeps faulting, you could even try to purge it with dpkg forced, then system update, then reinstall back
[06:09] <z3r0_d> lotuspsychje: how do I remove the packges and PPA if apt is unhappy?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | z3r0_d
[06:09] <z3r0_d> how do I install ppa-purge if I can’t use apt?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: you can try purge 1 at the time and sudo apt update in between, and see where it bottlenecks
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: if you can install ppapurge, try manual from your software&updates
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> cant
[06:11] <darkarmy> help me pleas
[06:12] <z3r0_d> when I run apt or synaptic it complains “dkpg was interrupted, you must manually run ‘sudo dpkg —configure -a’ to correct the problem"
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: see also: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-list-and-remove-ppa-repository-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> darkarmy: you didnt as a question yet
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> ask
[06:12] <hello_kitty> Hello I am following a tutorial for mount a drive, and am getting /etc/fstab Permission denied when trying to echo. I am on the 5th command of this tutorial: https://www.vultr.com/docs/block-storage
[06:13] <darkarmy> i send u msg
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !pm > darkarmy
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> z3r0_d: i would also reccomend, before filing new bugs to launchpad, to have a clean system without external ppa's to avoid work for the developers
[06:15] <hello_kitty> here's a paste of the commands im running to mount a new drive (block storage on vutlr.com) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cwRqRQNgkH/, line 7 is where i get -bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied; I'm running them all with sudo
[06:18] <darkarmy> hello
[06:25] <sandwitch> hello_kitty, why do you echo >> /etc/fstab, what is the purpose?
[06:25] <hello_kitty> sandwitch: i'm not sure, it comes from a tutorial from the isp... does that maybe wipe the contents of fstab..?
[06:26] <sandwitch> the other echo should be: echo '/dev/vdb1 /mnt/blockstorage ext4 defaults,noatime,nofail 0 0' >> /etc/fstab
[06:26] <sandwitch> It is a string so should be in single quotes
[06:27] <hello_kitty> ah that makes sense, thank you
[06:28] <sandwitch> i think the first echo appends a return
[06:46] <uzee> Hi All, trying again, does anyone know how lvm partitioning can be done in preseed but based on percentage of disk space, instead of absolute numbers for min/max/priority ?
[06:48] <ducasse> uzee: for preseed questions try #ubuntu-server
[06:51] <killown> chromium-chromedriver/disco 73.0.3683.103-0ubuntu1 amd64
[06:51] <killown> and chromium 74
[06:51] <killown> won't work, someone fix that
[06:53] <uzee> ducasse: thanks so much, I had asked yesterday as well and was kinda surprised that no one had responded, now I understand :)
[06:55] <ducasse> uzee: well, let's hope you get help there. it's still a bit early, so you might have to wait a couple of hours.
[06:57] <uzee> ducasse: sure, thats perfectly fine, I'm in a different timezone so I just put it out there and monitor for the rest of my day. thanks again
[07:01] <LuckyMan> If I install mono, will I be vulnerable to windows virus?
[07:04] <Marcangel> bonjour a tous
[07:04] <Marcangel> j'ai besoin de vous
[07:06] <ducasse> !fr | Marcangel
[07:06] <Marcangel> oh sorry, thank you !
[07:27] <Quasselhoff> damnit National Instrument doesn't provide hardware drivers for debian/ubuntu !!??
[07:27] <Quasselhoff> now I can reinstall the whole system
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> please dont swear in the support channel Quasselhoff
[07:28] <Quasselhoff> sorry
[07:28] <Quasselhoff> i tried to install the rpm with alien, but it didnt work
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Quasselhoff: best way to get your issue solved is to ask all your details, in one line and wait until a volunteers reply
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !details | Quasselhoff for example
[07:37] <Quasselhoff> basically I want to install some USB drivers for proprietary devices http://www.ni.com/product-documentation/54754/en/  but they only provide .rpm and officially support CentOS/RedHat/SUSE/Scientific Linux, but not debian ... is there any workaround I could try?
[07:38] <tatertotz> Quasselhoff read the "system requirements"....aka "supported OS" in your software vendors documentation
[07:38] <Quasselhoff> I read and debian is not listed.
[07:38] <tatertotz> Quasselhoff...sounds like you're in "unsupported" land/territory
[07:38] <Quasselhoff> what would you recommend next best after ubuntu? centos?
[07:40] <tatertotz> lol...that's a OP/MOD type question...the Lamborghini only beats the Ford F-250 in a race when 2 tons isn't attached to the back of both automobiles
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> tatertotz: thats really unusefull help
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> Quasselhoff: can you try tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in your device, see what kind of errors show on ubuntu?
[07:41] <tatertotz> lotuspsychje this is where you get to tell him what is "best" :)...wink /nod
[07:41] <Quasselhoff> ok thx i try that next time lotus
[07:53] <maxjezy> hello there all great ones
[07:53] <MarzEz> hi there
[07:53] <maxjezy> there seems to be problems with my wifi not showing up
[07:53] <maxjezy> wifi card
[07:53] <maxjezy> is there a list command for it
[07:54] <maxjezy> or is it best to buy me a new computer and try
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> maxjezy: pastebin: lshw -C network && uname -a && lsb_release -a
[07:54] <MarzEz> from memory, lshw should give you a list of all devices on your computer
[07:54] <MarzEz> You may need to run it as sudo
[07:56] <maxjezy> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j8hdHZSp38/
[07:56] <MarzEz> Does anyone know any active IRC channels for overclocking support?
[07:57] <alkisg> Hi, I just noticed that /run/sshd wasn't created on boot (16.04) so `systemctl start ssh` was failing, and I had to manually create the dir to get sshd to start. Anyone heard something about that recently?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> MarzEz: ##hardware
[07:59] <maxjezy> my wificard does not have 5G?
[07:59] <MarzEz> lotuspsychje: Cheers
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: im ilding in #ubuntu-bugs-announce but didnt see ssh bugs recently
[08:00] <alkisg> Thank you lotuspsychje, I'll try to search what is supposed to create that dir on boot; e.g. systemd or sshd
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: could it be related to recent kernel updates?
[08:04] <alkisg> Dunno, thanks, I'll have a look at that too. The server was up for 19 days, and it did have the issue, so I imagine the problem happened more than 19 days ago.
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: ah, then its probably not related
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: try also in #ubuntu-server maybe?
[08:05] <alkisg> It's a desktop, but sure, it makes sense
[08:05] <alkisg> ty
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> oh, you meant sshd server nvm
[08:12] <maxjezy> i solved it, i dont know if i was online or not when i wrote it on pidgin
[08:12] <maxjezy> so, here i say thanks guys for helping me
[08:27] <Jackneill> hi.
[08:28] <Jackneill> i have botted up trying ubuntu. want to update bios, my booting usb drive is fat32 formatted. but its mounted read_-only, and i have to copy to it the binary blob to update in bios.
[08:28] <Jackneill> how can i mount that with write permissions?
[08:31] <Jackneill> now that i have booted up from the usb can i just umount it and remount with write permissions?
[08:55] <TafThorne1> Good morning.  I cannot install git-send-email on 18.10 (or git-email) is there an external reason my machine cannot find this package or have my apt conf stuff probably gone wonky?
[08:56] <Sweepyoface> TafThorne1 what error does it give you?
[08:56] <jbeneyto> \q
[08:56] <TafThorne1> Package 'git-email' has no installation candidate
[08:56] <TafThorne1> Package git-email is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:56] <TafThorne1> etc
[08:57] <Sweepyoface> do you have the universe repo added?
[08:57] <JohnGavr> TafThorne1, apt-get install git-email ??
[08:57] <Sweepyoface> https://www.apt-browse.org/browse/ubuntu/bionic/universe/all/git-email/1:2.17.0-1ubuntu1/
[08:58] <TafThorne1> Sweepyoface: Software & Updates says it is enabled
[08:58] <TafThorne1> JohnGavr: that is what gives the kind of error I showed
[08:58] <JohnGavr> Sweepyoface, solution
[08:59] <TafThorne1> urg
[09:00] <TafThorne1> Got Ubuntu to try another UK mirror and now all is well
[09:00] <TafThorne1> Sorry I did not think to try that before coming here
[09:00] <Sweepyoface> ah
[09:00] <Sweepyoface> enjoy
[09:02] <darkarmy> helo
[09:09] <Rue> quick question regarding fstab. if the drives i want to mount are storage drives. should i just set <options> to defaults, and <pass><check> to 0 0 ? some of these will be used for regular storage, others will be used for torrenting so there will be lots of writings of files to the disk.
[09:29] <puppetmaster> anyone using kvirc?
[09:33] <qwebirc10532> Hey, I've just installed Ubuntu 19.04 Budgie and I don't have Wifi Drivers for my HP 14-cm0014au Laptop. I've gotten them on Mint 19.1 thanks to jeremy31 but the commands he gave me for Mint don't seem to be working on Ubuntu as it asks for a Github username and password which were not required on mint. How can I get the drivers?
[09:34] <jeremy31> qwebirc10532: You have a typo in the git clone command
[09:34] <qwebirc10532> I'll try it again
[09:35] <puppetmaster> i have a different model hp laptop which doesn't have any ubuntu wifi drivers. i had to install arch drivers.
[09:35] <o-bit> wifi card?
[09:35] <o-bit> Ralink?
[09:35] <puppetmaster> who, me?
[09:36] <o-bit> Yeah lol
[09:36] <puppetmaster> Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[09:36] <o-bit> Ooh, that one, LOL
[09:36] <puppetmaster> must admit, i rarely use wifi. only when at library. while in office, it's ethernet only.
[09:36] <jeremy31> puppetmaster: https://github.com/tomaspinho/rtl8821ce
[09:37] <puppetmaster> i already have it running. wasn't asking for help. just pointing out that arch drivers worked.
[09:37] <qwebirc10532> jeremy31, this is the git clone command I tried. Is it not correct? git clone https://github.com/tomaspinho/rt18821ce.git
[09:38] <jeremy31> qwebirc10532: it is rtl8821ce, not rt18821ce
[09:39] <qwebirc10532> ah, ok. thanks for the help once again
[09:39] <jeremy31> rt then small L not a one(1)
[09:41] <qwebirc10532> that's working fine now, thanks jeremy31. that command should work on anything based on Ubuntu 18.04 or greater correct?
[09:42] <jeremy31> qwebirc10532: Looks like the code should be good for a while, kernel 5.0 is supported
[09:43] <qwebirc10532> great
[09:44] <TafThorne1> thank you for the help
[10:12] <conjo> guys do any of you know why scptoolkit would render one of my eight usb ports unusable only fix(which is no longer working) is to pull motherboard battery+drain all power from system, replace reboot and choose default re cmos settings (dual bios)
[10:12] <mouses> sounds like hardware failure
[10:13] <conjo> i want to fix but am really at a loss
[10:14] <conjo> lol you prolly right...however why would pulling the battery fix it (even if only in the past/do you reckon i am assuming causation where only commonality exist?
[10:15]  * conjo sighs bloody hell its probobly time for a new computer...he he heee
[10:20] <dani07> uygk
[10:49] <conjo> hello again-so you were right about the hardware failure (usb port not working after using scptoolkit) i thought id have another closer look at the board and the first thing i saw was a wire loose from a connector-rofl rookie error-thanks again
[10:53] <usuario> hi guys
[10:53] <usuario> holaaaaaa
[10:54] <conjo> hi
[10:54] <conjo> hola
[10:54] <conjo> que pa sol
[10:55] <chochima> olaaa putas
[10:55] <usuario> holaaaaaaaa
[10:57] <conjo> lols
[10:57] <conjo> hola muchaco keep it family
[11:02] <conjo> hey does anyone know about modes to avoid getting spam
[11:02] <conjo> cant remember syntax thought it was +R but not sure
[11:02] <myself> https://freenode.net/kb/answer/usermodes
[11:02] <myself> also #freenode :)
[11:02] <conjo> cheers
[11:03] <belphegor_> hi
[11:25] <Paulo> HI. i have installed lubuntu 18.10 in an old computer, but i can't install spotify. can someone help me?
[11:26] <popey_> Paulo: i386?
[11:26] <popey_> (32-bit install?)
[11:27] <popey_> Spotify do not make a 32-bit build of their application anymore.
[11:27] <Paulo> o yes it is a 32 bit install
[11:27] <popey_> Ok, that's why then
[11:28] <Paulo> the computer is the asus eee 1005ha
[11:28] <popey_> hah, I have one of those in the loft :)
[11:29] <Paulo> for what i do with it is very nice. just to update a blog do some text ens listen music
[11:29] <cfhowlett> spotify is far from the only music player available
[11:29] <popey_> https://github.com/hrkfdn/ncspot  might be worth a look - it's a command line spotify client.
[11:30] <popey_> ( I have tried it {albeit on a 64-bit machine} and it works pretty well )
[11:31] <Paulo> but i have the acount
[11:32] <Paulo> i will check
[11:41] <bimraud> hello
[11:45] <omerkaraduman> hi
[11:45] <AlecTaylor> hi
[11:45] <omerkaraduman> bizden kimse yok mu?
[11:45] <AlecTaylor> Got my old system76 laptop working! - How do I upgrade from 17.04 to 19.04?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> !tr | omerkaraduman
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !eol | AlecTaylor/
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> AlecTaylor: 17.04 is end of life
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> AlecTaylor: reccomended to fresh install a supported version from the topic
[11:46] <omerkaraduman> AlecTaylor: You can do it from software and update.
[11:46] <AlecTaylor> Yeah as I expected, so what I upgrade to 17.10 then 18.04 then 19.04?
[11:47] <omerkaraduman> ubottu: teşekkürler
[11:47] <cfhowlett> omerkaraduman/ not eveen close to being true!
[11:47] <cfhowlett> because it's end of life, he'll have to do an EOL upgrade
[11:47] <omerkaraduman> cfhowlett: ne diyorsun olum?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> omerkaraduman: stop that please
[11:48] <omerkaraduman> ok
[11:48] <omerkaraduman> omerkaraduman: ok you won
[11:49] <leftyfb> AlecTaylor: I would suggest installing 18.04 from scratch and sticking with that. The support is for 5 years.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> +1
[11:50] <AlecTaylor> leftyfb - I'm pretty close to that now, just two away
[11:50] <omerkaraduman> Ubuntu 19.04 also has many packet errors. Therefore I would also recommend ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS.
[11:51] <leftyfb> omerkaraduman: please do not give false information
[11:51] <leftyfb> omerkaraduman: trolling is offtopic here.
[11:52] <omerkaraduman> leftyfb: This information is not wrong. I used Ubuntu 19.04 and received many packet errors.
[11:52] <popey_> omerkaraduman: if you have a specific issue, file a bug.
[11:53] <bimraud> /unj/
[11:53] <omerkaraduman> leftyfb: The problem is not about you. We're talking about Ubuntu.
[11:54] <leftyfb> omerkaraduman: this is a support channel. Unless you have a support questions, please keep the commentary and false information to yourself. If you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic. If you're here to troll, please /part
[11:55]  * cfhowlett is happy to report that /ignore works perfectly in hexchat
[11:55] <omerkaraduman> leftyfb: shut the fuck off
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> !language | omerkaraduman
[11:55] <leftyfb> !op | omerkaraduman
[11:55] <omerkaraduman> la gardaş bu ne yaw amk çocuğuna bak
[11:56] <omerkaraduman> la bize heryer angara
[11:57] <leftyfb> popey_: ?
[11:57] <omerkaraduman> admin pls kick fucking leftyfb
[12:08] <AlecTaylor> Is there any way to do a non-fresh install upgrade to 18.04 from 17.04, e.g.: through 17.10?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> why would you want to do that?
[12:09] <AlecTaylor> Don't want to lose my applications, settings, or files
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> AlecTaylor: 17.10 is also eol, its asking for trouble
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !17.10
[12:10] <cfhowlett> AlecTaylor/ do you have a dedicated /home partition?
[12:10]  * AlecTaylor is upgrading everything in the background now using old-releases sources
[12:10] <AlecTaylor> cfhowlett - No, just ran an `fdisk -l`, can't find it :sadface:
[12:11] <AlecTaylor> Can repartition I suppose
[12:11] <popey_> AlecTaylor: technically it's possible, yes.
[12:11] <popey_> AlecTaylor: also, technically you could probably jump directly from 17.04 to 18.04
[12:11] <ioria> AlecTaylor, you can use the swap
[12:11] <cfhowlett> well since you have your backups you could always install to current partitions and avoid formattting /home.  that ***should*** retain your current settings
[12:15] <AlecTaylor> popey_ - happy to, how
[12:15] <AlecTaylor> ?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> do a manual partition to the current partitions.  do NOT format /home
[12:18] <popey_> AlecTaylor: it's possible to manually upgrade by modifying the sources.list to change the codename to the newer release.
[12:18] <popey_> AlecTaylor: it's generally not recommended by many, because it's not something that gets tested / QA'ed
[12:18] <popey_> AlecTaylor: but it can work, but if it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces :)
[12:24] <extorr> Does ubuntu install automagically configure the UEFI boot system or does one have to manually tweak it
[12:25] <AlecTaylor> dangerous :P
[12:25] <cfhowlett> extorr/ automagic
[12:25] <cfhowlett> usually
[12:28] <leftyfb> I have to imagine the amount of effort people put into not keeping backups and just upgrading across versions is way less than just installing from scratch, reinstalling applications you know you need and restoring from backup and running a much cleaner and more efficient environment
[12:29] <leftyfb> er, I mean way more
[12:29] <extorr> Backups dont cost time though, they run in the background usually. Even in large shops.
[12:29] <torin> hi chaps. quick question. i'm planning to create ubuntu installation on my ssd in an usb enclosure, so i can boot it anywhere, like old/new laptops and my macbook. is there anything i need to be careful about during installation or should it just work straight away?
[12:31] <Fuchs> torin: should work, the main question that would come to my mind is where you plant the bootloader
[12:31] <extorr> Use knoppix instead torin
[12:31] <extorr> Something that was meant to be live and portable, unlike ubuntu
[12:31] <leftyfb> extorr: this isn't the appropriate place to be suggesting other distros
[12:31] <Fuchs> I assume you'd put one on the usb disk and mark that bootable, then just tell whatever device you connect that it shall boot from USB
[12:31] <extorr> leftyfb, knoppix is unstable ubuntu with a few tweaks tho
[12:32] <Fuchs> also I'd just be aware that journaling filesystems (which I'd recommend) are not terribly suited for storage that accidentally gets removed, so try to ensure it isn't pulled while running
[12:32] <extorr> Not like I recommended slax or any of the BSD live CDs
[12:32] <torin> Fuchs: cool, i thought so. will give it a go later in the evening.
[12:32] <Fuchs> but in general I'd expect it to work. Consider full disk encryption maybe
[12:32] <Fuchs> depending on how sensitive that data is that you will carry around
[12:32] <extorr> torin, do your systems boot via UEFI?
[12:32] <leftyfb> Fuchs: mind you, you will receive no support for knoppix or any other distro here
[12:32] <torin> Fuchs: yeah
[12:32] <Fuchs> leftyfb: wrong person
[12:32] <leftyfb> sorry torin ^
[12:32] <torin> extorr: yeah
[12:33] <torin> most systems now do
[12:33] <torin> - legacy stuff
[12:33] <extorr> torin, I heard that makes dual booting a bit complex
[12:34] <torin> it shouldn't be the case.
[12:34] <leftyfb> extorr: btw, Knoppix is in no way based on Ubuntu. It's based on Debian.
[12:35] <extorr> I thought it was a debian/ubuntu hybrid at least at one point
[12:35] <torin> i'll see how it goes in the evening
[12:36] <leftyfb> extorr: knoppix was released 5 years before Ubuntu
[12:36] <torin> Fuchs: do you know in case of uefi installation if you can specify device where bootloader is installed? i know it will be the option for mbr
[12:36] <torin> Fuchs: i'm slightly worried if the installer won't automatically choose wrong device for me
[12:38] <Fuchs> torin: haven't used the ubuntu installer for a long time, but if you can't during install, you most certainly can kick grub-install from a running system later on
[12:39] <extorr> Fuchs, he may be setting up dualboot over EFI tho
[12:40] <xp7> whats the problem with that extorr ?
[12:41] <extorr> It complicates matters
[12:41] <torin> how?
[12:41] <EriC^> torin: if you manually partition you can set the partition to efi
[12:41] <xp7> hmm is it running on another boot sector?
[12:41] <torin> EriC^: ah, and that will be picked up automatically?
[12:41] <xp7> is that why?
[12:42] <extorr> I assume it doesnt automagically configure /dev/sda1/EFI/boot/ubuntu/* and possibly required manually adding something via the BIOS
[12:42] <EriC^> torin: yeah it wants one with root fs "/" and one set as efi
[12:42] <extorr> torin you want to run a dualboot with windows right
[12:42] <torin> EriC^: cool, and i bet i can set encryption in manual process later as well?
[12:43] <torin> extorr: not necesarilly, i want put stick anywhere i am and just boot that stick
[12:43] <EriC^> torin: using luks you meam?
[12:43] <torin> EriC^: yeah
[12:43] <torin> extorr: without touching underlaying os
[12:43] <xp7> rubber ducky
[12:44] <extorr> So you want to make a portable ubuntu, in essence a live CD of ubuntu
[12:44] <extorr> Which makes me ask again, why not use a real live CD instead.
[12:45] <extorr> Or why not dd a live ubuntu DVD iso to the usb stick. It will still boot, ya?
[12:45] <torin> because i want for example encryption & persistent changes
[12:46] <torin> is that good enough reason?
[12:46] <pragmaticenigma> torin: You can get persistent changes, however a live environment boot drive will not be able to use full disk encryption, though I think you can encrypt the user's home directory
[12:46] <popey_> That's possible. I have a usb key which has ubuntu installed on it with encryption and persistence
[12:46] <popey_> You just need two keys, one to boot the install iso, and the other to install onto
[12:47] <cfhowlett_1> torin/ if that is your primary goal then I suggest an OS dedicated to same.  try "tails"
[12:47] <popey_> You don't need another distro, this works perfectly well on Ubuntu as is.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:47] <torin> popey_: that's what exactly i'm trying to do, instead of usb stick i have nvme in a usb caddy
[12:47] <torin> :)
[12:47] <popey_> nice!
[12:47] <popey_> That's even better!
[12:47] <pragmaticenigma> cfhowlett_1: tails is not an encrypted live instance, it is merely forgetful and does not support persistence by design
[12:48] <torin> and just wondering about any caveats over there during installation
[12:48] <alkisg> torin: I'm using such an installation daily, it's no different than installing to internal hd at all
[12:48] <cfhowlett_1> pragmaticenigma/ ahh.  forgive my misinformation then.
[12:48] <popey_> torin: having done this, the only gotcha is during install, make sure the grub install gets put on the usb attached drive, not the internal drive
[12:48] <alkisg> I'm using an external ssd disk.  But it doesn't launch on the begin of session
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: if you like a different version of gdb, maybe try a newer ubuntu release?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: for example: 19.10 gdb Version <IP_ADDRESS>90405-0ubuntu3
[12:59] <elichai2> lotuspsychje: but I need an *older* gdb version
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: how about you tell us what you really are trying to do with an older version of gdb?
[13:01] <elichai2> trying to use a tool called `sgx-gdb` which doesn't yet support gdb 8^
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: from where/wich guide?
[13:24] <cheddar82143> I have a weird issue -- I can connect to a machine through ssh, but I cannot connect out from that machine (including internet, cannot ping anything). I did not change any settings for years, and it happened just one day when I haven't updated in weeks.
[13:26] <Jackneill> hi
[13:26] <LuckyMan> cheddar82143, maybe try #networking
[13:26] <moi_> salut
[13:27] <Jackneill> what does it mean when trying to install 19.04 "installing ubuntu" only gives me a black screen, but with (safe graphics) option it workds?
[13:27] <wr> best display manager to use on the ubuntu's?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | Jackneill/
[13:27] <Jackneill> i've had an issue previously where i install 19.04 rebooted but only got purple screen from grub.
[13:27] <cfhowlett> wr/ the one you like best is the best.
[13:28] <Jackneill> cfhowlett, i have 8th gen intel i5
[13:28] <Jackneill> do i really need nomodeset?
[13:28] <wr> cfhowlett, no
[13:28] <moi_> hello
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Jackneill/ shouldn't but for some reason your graphics aren't recognized
[13:28] <cfhowlett> moi_/ ask you ubuntu support question
[13:32] <cheddar82143> LuckyMan: will do, thanks
[13:34] <tomreyn> Jackneill: hi again. if you can boot without nnomodeset and post your system log that would help. you can post the log of the current boot using "journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999", or of the previous boot using "journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999".
[13:35] <Jackneill> tomreyn, hi again. i am currently reinstalling 19.04. i updated the bios to version 300, the freshest.
[13:36] <tomreyn> ah, so maybe that will already fix it.
[13:36] <cfhowlett> we can hope!
[13:36] <tomreyn> Jackneill: i assume you're reinstalling because you also switched to uefi booting?
[13:37] <Jackneill> tomreyn, the usb is botted from uefi, i just dd'd the iso to usb, not sure what that uses.
[13:38] <tomreyn> that should support both boot modes
[13:38] <calduser> hi guys, I have update kernel and intel microcode for the last Microarchitectural Data Sampling (MDS) vulnerability but my processor is in the table "Section 2 – No planned microcode updates" What is the solution :( ? https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/corporate-information/SA00233-microcode-update-guidance_05132019.pdf
[13:38] <Jackneill> well just finished install, rebooted, no grub, just purple screen.
[13:39] <tomreyn> calduser: acquire new hardware, use hardware only in safe environment.
[13:39] <calduser> @tomreyn intel microcode is closed source?
[13:39] <tomreyn> calduser: yes
[13:40] <tomreyn> Jackneill: :-/ can you try without nomodeset but also without "splash" and "quiet"?
[13:40] <Jackneill> tomreyn, sure
[13:41] <Jackneill> tomreyn,  $vt_handoff?
[13:41] <tomreyn> Jackneill: if that also doesn't work, do it *with* "nomodeset" but *without* "splash" and "quiet". the goal for now is just to get us some log.
[13:42] <calduser> therefore being a my processor a legacy system, if the microcode was open source is it possible to solve the problem?
[13:42] <tomreyn> calduser: such theoretical discussions about firmware are way beyond the scope of this channel.
[13:43] <calduser> tomreyn my question is not offtopic because it concerns the security of ubuntu
[13:44] <popey_> calduser: you're asking something nobody here can answer
[13:44] <popey_> calduser: the software is closed source, nobody here is empowered to change that
[13:44] <hggdh> calduser: yes, if the firmwares were to be open-sourced, then some issues might be resolved. But it is not, so nothing can be done in this channel
[13:45] <calduser> hggdh ok thanks
[13:46] <sambagirl> hi i am having trouble with the unattended-updr  and i would like to just disable it because i check on my own and apply what i want
[13:46] <Jackneill> tomreyn, http://termbin.com/3shk successfuly logged in to gnome
[13:46] <Jackneill> high res
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Jackneill/ so your updated bios fixed it??
[13:47] <sambagirl> when i look under processes i dont see it
[13:47] <tomreyn> Jackneill: using which kernel parameters?
[13:47] <Jackneill> tomreyn, kernel: Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.0.0-15-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro nomodeset
[13:47] <Jackneill> that was a recovery entry
[13:47] <tomreyn> it says on the log of course, silly me
[13:47] <popey_> sambagirl: it only wakes up periodically, you can remove it if you don't want to use it.
[13:48] <popey_> sambagirl: sudo apt remove unattended-upgrades
[13:48] <sambagirl> popey_ i keep getting the
[13:48] <calduser> for those who find themselves in the same situation as a legacy processor, how did you mitigate the vulnerability?
[13:48] <sambagirl> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:48] <sambagirl> E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | sambagirl/
[13:49] <popey_> yikes, that aptlock thing is a bit bad
[13:49] <sambagirl> that did it :D
[13:50] <cfhowlett> popey_/ eh? how so?
[13:50] <Jackneill> tomreyn, powered off, then on, no grub just purple screen.
[13:50] <popey_> you went directly from "how do I disable a thing" to "kill a process"
[13:50] <popey_> which seems a bit of a leap
[13:50] <popey_> it worked though, so meh :)
[13:50] <tomreyn> Jackneill: the v300 firmware states it was produced on 11/22/2018 whereas the download page states it was released on 2019/02/14, weird...
[13:51] <Jackneill> tomreyn, :)
[13:51] <sambagirl> popey_ after i applied the command ms bot gave me it allowed me to uninstall it finally.
[13:51] <popey_> sweet, good stuff
[13:51] <sambagirl> i am up and rolling. thanks all. HEY SEVEAS! chao!
[13:51] <Jackneill> tomreyn, if i get to bios then quit, i get grub
[13:52] <Jackneill> tomreyn, and from thenb on i can log into gnome
[13:53] <tomreyn> Jackneill: you need to repeatedly press escape to bring up the grub menu by default. it will, however, show automatically if the system did not power down properly.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> auto login enabled, perhaps?
[13:53] <Jackneill> i dobnt have auto login enabled
[13:53] <tomreyn> Jackneill: can you ensure that 'fast boot' is disabled in 'bios'?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:53] <Jackneill> i have lvm disk encryption, then gdm login screen
[13:53] <Jackneill> tomreyn, yes.
[13:54] <anselm> I thought you hold down shift to bring up grub menu during boot?
[13:54] <tomreyn> that's when you bios boot
[13:54] <Jackneill> tomreyn, double checked, it is disabled.
[13:55] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i have disabled secure boot too.
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[13:55] <tomreyn> Jackneill: just now or previously?
[13:55] <Jackneill> tomreyn, previously.
[13:55] <tomreyn> !ops | naturist42
[13:56] <tomreyn> Jackneill: okay, i'll read your logs now, will ping you in ~ 10-15 minutes
[13:56] <Jackneill> tomreyn, did the same now. escape from bios to get grub, "ubuntu", but this time no luck. only purple screen. this worked just previously now.
[13:56] <Jackneill> tomreyn, thank you.
[13:57] <Jackneill> tomreyn, now i have got grub without escaping from bios first. seems non-deterministic.
[13:57] <Jackneill> but only purple screen after grub "ubuntu".
[13:59] <Jackneill> choosing a recovery grub entry and usong only ro and nomodeset worked.
[14:01] <benyaminxploit> helo
[14:10] <lordcirth_> benyaminxploit, hi
[14:14] <tomreyn> Jackneill: so here's what seems notable about your logs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4GYRsWz2VZ/
[14:14] <Jackneill> tomreyn, right
[14:16] <tomreyn> Jackneill: the first four lines just point out what you're running on. then we have a TSC firmware bug - I don't know what TSC actually stands for, but it's a rather common mainboard firmware issue, and apparently it was worked around by Linux.
[14:17] <tomreyn> Jackneill: and then you have loads of ACPI errors which are, i think, USB related.
[14:18] <tomreyn> nd an acpi warning, which i would yet need to lookup
[14:19] <tomreyn> Jackneill: can you please post this as well:  lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:19] <Jackneill> tomreyn, right, i think i will have to permanently add nomodeset, also remove quiet splash and $vt_handoff
[14:19] <Jackneill> sure, sec.
[14:20] <tomreyn> Jackneill: it also seems that you don't have all ubuntu updates installed, yet. can you please check whether oyu have any pending?
[14:21] <Jackneill> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/5r4e
[14:22] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i have checked with update && upgrade, all 0s
[14:22] <Jackneill> tomreyn, as i remember i have installed those after i posted for you
[14:24] <tomreyn> Jackneill: so you're saying you first generated the log, then installed updates, right?
[14:25] <Jackneill> tomreyn, after the jouirnalctl -b i installed updates then tried restart
[14:25] <Jackneill> shell i post another?
[14:25] <tomreyn> Jackneill: not yet, thanks. this laptop seems to be connected to a docking station, is this correct?
[14:25] <tomreyn> usb 1-4.1: Product: USB-C Triple-4K Dock
[14:26] <Jackneill> tomreyn, yes.
[14:26] <Jackneill> via usb, yes
[14:27] <tomreyn> Jackneill: please disconnect the docking statiion and any other non essential (including external mouse, keyboard) periphels, then boot again normally without nomodeset.
[14:27] <Jackneill> tomreyn, ok, sec
[14:30] <Jackneill> tomreyn, no success. just pruple screen.
[14:31] <tomreyn> Jackneill: what if you boot using the default kernel but without "quiet", without "splash", without "nomodeset"?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> cheddar82143: are you on ubuntu?
[14:32] <Jackneill> tomreyn, purple screen
[14:33] <Jackneill> tomreyn, just nomodeset from the 3 works.
[14:33] <ryuo> purple screen of death?
[14:33] <ryuo> o.O
[14:35] <tomreyn> Jackneill: try without "nomodeset" but with these:  i915.enable_dc=0 i915.enable_fbc=0
[14:37] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i have not done anything and now it seems to work (i dont get grub, just the gdm ,login screen)
[14:37] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i mean i didntr put the i9..,. line in kernel args, just the default.
[14:38] <tomreyn> Jackneill: what'S the output of: cat /proc/cmdline
[14:38] <Jackneill> tomreyn, now i only get the purple screen for a short time, a switch to disk decrypt
[14:38] <tomreyn> Jackneill: don't reboot so soon next time you get it to boot properly.
[14:39] <Jackneill> tomreyn, ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[14:39] <tomreyn> oh so it's still running, ok. post this log as well please:  journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:40] <Jackneill> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/ehkf
[14:43] <tomreyn> Jackneill: thanks. i'm puzzled as to why it works sometimes but not always, this can suggest a hardware issue. but you're using the laptops internal monitor, right, so it could not be an external cable that is broken.
[14:44] <Jackneill> tomreyn, also brand new company laptop
[14:45] <Jackneill> tomreyn, anyway thank you for your help. i will keep rebooting, power offing it frequently, if i get it again, i will just toss it into a river and send a photo to asus
[14:45] <Jackneill> its an asus vivobook s14.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: can you press F1 at purple screen?
[14:46] <Jackneill> lotuspsychje, i will try when i can reproduce it, for now it seems to work.
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: wich graphics card in your asus?
[14:51] <Jackneill> lotuspsychje, intel i5 8th gen, nothing else.
[14:52] <Jackneill> in above logs (termbin) you cvan get exact specs
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: im browsing it atm
[14:53] <tomreyn> hmm, i don't really know what else to try, i'm afraid, Jackneill
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Jackneill, to check your graphics run, sudo lshw -C video
[14:54] <Jackneill> tomreyn, thank you for your help :)
[14:55] <tomreyn> Jackneill: the intel gpu firmware which got loaded seems to be the latest. your mainboard firmware is up to date, you're uefi booting, and on a recent kernel version. there's not a whole lot more you can try, other than those i915 module parameters i pointed out, and maybe some others.
[14:56] <Jackneill> BluesKaj, http://termbin.com/y9i4
[14:56] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i will note them down
[14:56] <tomreyn> Jackneill: "modinfo -p i915" lists the parameters you can try at grub. always prefix those with "i915."
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: did you test other ubuntu releases?
[14:57] <tomreyn> Jackneill: since this is an ULV platform, my guess would be that it can be a power saving issue. so any module parameters related to power saving / efficiency could be worth playing with.
[14:57] <Jackneill> tomreyn, http://termbin.com/nox0m
[14:57] <tomreyn> Jackneill: also you should try a !mainline kernel
[14:57] <tomreyn> !mainline | Jackneill
[14:57] <Jackneill> right
[14:58] <tomreyn> Jackneill: thanks, i know the output
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Jackneill, ok, you have the standard intel i915 driver which should work without any issues
[14:58] <Jackneill> inseed
[14:58] <Jackneill> indeed*
[15:02] <tomreyn> Jackneill: since this is rather new hardware and i wasn't able to find a matching bug report, it would be helpful if you could file one running:   ubuntu-bug linux
[15:03] <tomreyn> (if you do, you'll be asked to register at launchpad.net as part of reporting this bug - which will also enable you to receive updates on this bug.)
[15:03] <Jackneill> tomreyn, i will find the time today. since you know this bug well, could you list infos that will be very useful to file?
[15:05] <tomreyn> Jackneill: most importantly, describe the symptoms well: that it sometimes boots fine and other times is gets stuck as the purple screen (describe this purple screen a little better if you can - what happens right before it etc.).
[15:06] <tomreyn> Jackneill: logs will be added automatically, i don't think there will be a need to post any.
[15:07] <tomreyn> you should mention that you're using the latest mainboard firmware
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: it only takes 2min to make the bug
[15:07] <Jackneill> tomreyn, thats a helpful feature indeed, thanks.
[15:07] <Jackneill> i will just not now:P
[15:07] <Jackneill> if you want i will post the link for you tomorrow.
[15:08] <tomreyn> you can post it here tomorrow, sure.
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: or make it right now, and let us search while you sleep :p
[15:09]  * tomreyn can wait ;-)
[15:09] <Jackneill> lotuspsychje, ok i will make it now.
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: thank you very much
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: tnx for taking your time to file the bug!
[15:21] <Jackneill> tomreyn, lotuspsychje : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1829402
[15:21] <Jackneill> if i should add anything i will remain in front of a computer for at least 2.5h please feel free to ping me.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> Jackneill: ok, we will let you know, you will also get notices via email if something updates
[15:32] <tomreyn> Jackneill: looks fine, thanks. i added some notes.
[15:33] <Jackneill> tomreyn, thanks
[15:40] <zette> test
[15:41] <benishor> test successfully failed
[15:42] <zette> I have problem on anbox, I cnt install anbox in my ubuntu
[15:43] <zette> Anbox is just for Ubuntu 64 bit?
[15:45] <zette> Hello?
[15:50] <OerHeks> zette, yes, but anbox is nown for giving issues
[15:51] <OerHeks> try android studio, or look for something else
[15:51] <zette> Android Studio is support for 32 bit?
[15:51] <OerHeks> zette,  i don't know, check out https://snapcraft.io/android-studio
[15:51] <zette> Ok
[15:54] <zette> Android Studio for 64 bit :(
[15:57] <EoflaOEViceCity> zette do you have a processor which is not capable of 64-bit? You can try IntelliJ IDEA 2018.3, the last version to support 32-bit, bundled with Android plugin
[16:01] <OerHeks> IntelliJ is also 64 bit https://snapcraft.io/intellij-idea-community or https://snapcraft.io/intellij-idea-ultimate
[16:03] <Jackneill> hi. which is the preferred install method nowadays? snaps ? apt? flatpak:) ?
[16:03] <Jackneill> (when 1 app is available multiple ways)
[16:04] <OerHeks> Jackneill, apt, as you need to investigate and trust the snap maintainer.
[16:05] <OerHeks> flatpack, you are on your own
[16:06] <Jackneill> thank you
[16:09] <Pharaoh> Hi All! Are chromium-codecs-ffmpeg and extra supposed for work for chrome as well?
[16:11] <OerHeks> Pharaoh, do they not work?
[16:11] <Pharaoh> @Oerheks: apparently not
[16:11] <OerHeks> i think rendering is done in html5
[16:11] <bobbytables5> hello, I might be stupid but after reading article after article i can't get an answer, where is the cloud-config file located ?  I need to start a script on first startup...
[16:12] <tomreyn> bobbytables5: server support welcomes you in #ubuntu-server
[16:13] <Pharaoh> @Oerheks: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1141108/chromium-flash-player-not-working-on-ubuntu-19-04    This helped me set up flash on chromium on 19.04 Ubuntu... the latest chrome stable version still is unable to run flash
[16:13] <tomreyn> bobbytables5: and "dpkg -L packagename" lists the files installed by a given package.
[16:14] <qwebirc55707> hey all! I'm having a bit of trouble figuring something out. I've got a symlink and when I try to read the file I get permission denied, but if I actually navigate to the linked file, it's fine. e.g. "file -L [path]" gives permission denied, but "file $(readlink [path])" works
[16:14] <OerHeks> Phoh, flash should work, if the site asks to download, click that button, then the permission dialog pops up
[16:14] <qwebirc55707> I've tried checking various permissions but haven't figured it out
[16:14] <OerHeks> but flash should ide
[16:14] <amcclure> Anyone know how to fix missing firmware issues when installing ubuntu (19.04) on a 2017 macbook pro w/ touch bar?
[16:15] <tomreyn> bobbytables5: ( "dpkg -S $(which somecommand)" tells you the package 'somecommand' belongs to )
[16:15] <pragmaticenigma> amcclure: What firmware are you looking for?
[16:15] <OerHeks> Pharaoh, that post is about chromium, not chrome..
[16:16] <Pharaoh> Oerheks: I need a similar fix for chrome.. Any ideas?
[16:16] <amcclure> pragmaticenigma: mouse, keyboard, touch bar, and wifi
[16:16] <Pharaoh> Oerheks, perhaps a small tweak somewhere should do.. an adapter/plugin maybe
[16:16] <OerHeks> Phi am still on LTS 18.04, maybe someone else on 19.04 can confirm this issue?
[16:17] <OerHeks> Pharaoh ^
[16:17] <tomreyn> just use chromium?
[16:17] <Pharaoh> tomreyn: can do that..
[16:18] <bobbytables5> tomreyn: nice that command, it doesn't seem to exist by default the cloud-config file, Im having an hard time understanding where to put it
[16:18] <tomreyn> bobbytables5: and i'm having a hard time supporting you since i don't even know what you're working with
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> amcclure: This is a pretty comprehensive thread for installing to mac: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046568 ... Or parsing through the threads here https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[16:20] <tomreyn> bobbytables5: i  see black box software is assisting you #ubuntu-server - good. :)
[16:20] <bobbytables5> tomreyn: yeah reading the doc :)
[16:22] <amcclure> pragmaticenigma: ty
[16:53] <Raiu> Hi! do you know of some tool that can list the status of some services in a tmux panel?
[17:09] <raindev> Hi folks. Anyone has problems with expose (GNOME activity overview) in 19.04?
[17:09] <raindev> It doesn't scale windows properly for me.
[17:10] <raindev> Or doesn't scale all windows.
[17:10] <raindev> And there're problems with full screen windows.
[17:10] <raindev> It's basically really messed up.
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> raindev: can you make a screenshot of that please?
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> raindev: whats your graphics card chipset?
[17:12] <raindev> Sure, I'll be back with a screen shot in a moment.
[17:12] <raindev> I have AMD RX 580.
[17:14] <raindev> https://imgur.com/CMvSCzG
[17:15] <raindev> On the left there're two terminal windows, one of them is scaled down the other not. And the gEdit on the right is not scaled down properly either.
[17:16] <raindev> lotuspsychje: any ideas?
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> raindev: it should arrange all ?windows logical, centered more right
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> raindev: that doesnt look like the icons of 19.04 did you change themes or using something else?
[17:20] <raindev> lotuspsychje: I use gnome-shell, stock GNOME session. But the behaviour of overview is the same in the default Ubuntu session.
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> raindev: is your amd driver loaded correctly? sudo lshw -C video to check at bottom driver=..
[17:25] <raindev> lotuspsychje: configuration: driver=amdgpu latency=0
[17:25] <umbSublime> Hey, i'm trying to see if a specific patch is included in the kernel i'm using. but I'm not sure how to get the sources (linux-image-4.15.0-50-generic)
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> raindev: is that the one ubuntu loaded by default, or did you install manually?
[17:25] <raindev> No, didn't touch anything related to the drivers.
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> raindev: did you have this behaviour on other ubuntu versions?
[17:28] <ioria> umbSublime, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1014539/kernel-patching-how-to-check-verify-when-specific-patch-was-applied
[17:29] <raindev> lotuspsychje: no, I didn't. I upgraded from 18.10.
[17:29] <umbSublime> ioria: from the answer there, how can I get not only source from mainline, but also patches that were added to it by canonical ?
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> raindev: ok, so maybe you could kernel play, see if it happens on other kernel versions as a test, see !mainline
[17:30] <umbSublime> source for mainline, no issues I already have ahandy
[17:30] <ioria> umbSublime, you need the source of the kernel you want
[17:31] <raindev> lotuspsychje: thanks, I could try that
[17:34] <umbSublime> yah that's basically my question
[17:37] <ioria> umbSublime, you know how to get the source ?
[17:37] <OerHeks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic-updates/linux-meta
[17:41] <mtdms> i have a problem, i bought new computer, i want to install ubuntu, but the installation doesnt recognize my partitions, why?
[17:41] <mtdms> only my usb drive
[17:42] <umbSublime> I'm not sure I see how I can get the source for my specific kernel. It's easy enough to get mainline, but how do I get sources for mine ? Or perhaps I can have mainline + a set of patches applied to it ?
[17:42] <OerHeks> mtdms, sounds like you have windows 10 installed, and an UEFI machine
[17:43] <OerHeks> mtdms, use the UEFI manual
[17:43] <OerHeks> !uefi
[17:43] <mtdms> yes i have windows 10
[17:43] <mtdms> i dont know what is uefi, i will read about it, thanks a lot
[17:43] <ioria> umbSublime, apt source linux
[17:43] <OerHeks> basicly: disable fastboot, and other intel stuff, and boot in uefi mode
[17:44] <ioria> umbSublime, you need to enable 'src' in /e/a/sources.list
[17:44] <umbSublime> thanks ioria
[17:44] <ioria> ok
[17:50] <gschanuel> hello! I'm trying to compile some source as regular user on ubuntu 18.04 but it is failing: ./configure output as regular user: https://pastebin.com/AJJhUmt4 and as root https://pastebin.com/LsHAhJ5Y
[17:50] <gschanuel> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25453 Mar  3 11:28 /usr/include/cups/cups.h
[17:50] <gschanuel> ubuntu is running inside docker
[17:51] <gschanuel> configure: error: Could not find CUPS. Install libcups2-dev or cups-devel
[17:52] <OerHeks> to compile code, you want the -dev packages
[17:52] <gschanuel> libcups2-dev is installed
[17:52] <Siecje> What does this mean python-openssl set to manually installed
[17:52] <gschanuel> as root it works, but not as regular user
[17:53] <teward> Siecje: it means that it was initially included for install separately as a dependency of another package, but now that you've explicitly `apt install`ed it or similarly, it's no longer being considered as autoinstalled as a dependency but specifically requested for installation (manually) by you the admin
[17:56] <umbSublime> ioria: ok so this get me the source from the original kernel xenial's kernel is based of ?
[17:57] <Siecje> On Ubuntu 16.04 I'm getting this error https://dpaste.de/zPhi
[17:58] <umbSublime> ioria: my question now is how to get all patches applied on his base kernel to get to what I have running now
[17:58] <umbSublime> s/his/this/
[18:13] <OerHeks> Siecje, when do you get that error?
[18:13] <Siecje> OerHeks: python; >>> import requests
[18:14] <OerHeks> oh oke, it was not clear to me what the command was
[18:14] <OerHeks> no clue there :-(
[18:31] <amcclure> startup keeps stuck on "detect the available gpus and deal with any system changes" - is there any way to disable it or find what's causing it to stay running?
[18:44] <tomreyn> amcclure: which ubuntu version is this?
[18:45] <rivyn> Why doesn't the Ubuntu installer support JFS as a filesystem choice?  Is there a less straightforward way to configure Ubuntu to use JFS instead of ext4?
[18:54] <ducasse> rivyn: have you checked if the old (debian-based) server installer offers it?
[18:54] <tomreyn> rivyn: you could probably do it from an installed system which already supports jfs, installing using debootstrap. i do not know which boot managers can boot off jfs.
[19:11] <Kon-> Hi, my stub-resolv.conf keeps defaulting to <IP_ADDRESS> even though I have specified a different DNS and fallback DNS in /etc/systemd/resolvd.conf. This was working before so I'm a little confused as to why it's not now
[19:13] <rivyn> ducasse:  I'm installing Server, not Desktop, is that the default?
[19:13] <tomreyn> Kon-: do you mean /etc/systemd/resolved.conf (your path was missing an 'e')?
[19:14] <Kon-> Yes, sorry
[19:14] <Kon-> I have it open right now and it's named correctly
[19:14] <hans__> any idea why Ubuntu 18.04 would get 4mbit/s on hardware where Debian 8.8 and CentOS 6.9 get ~200mbit/s upload speed? (and it affects up speed only, down speed is unaffected)
[19:14] <hans__> internet, tcp4
[19:14] <ducasse> rivyn: server now uses the subiquity installer, use the one without 'live' in the filename
[19:16] <rivyn> tomreyn:  All boot managers that I know of can boot off of JFS.  I'm guessing it's omission in the installer has to do with the fact that it's not online-resizable, which would make it awkward to use with LVM I suppose (I don't use LVM)
[19:17] <rivyn> ducasse:  Thanks, I'll go hunt for that.
[19:17] <Kon-> hans__: Do you have the net-tools package installed?
[19:18] <hans__> Kon-, nope
[19:18] <hans__> ... can install it tho
[19:19] <ducasse> rivyn: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.2/release/
[19:19] <ducasse> rivyn: should be this one
[19:19] <rivyn> ducasse:  Thanks, I found it too :)
[19:20] <Kon-> Not recommended. I asked because on multiple machines, for whatever reason, installing net-tools on 18.04 caused my connection to max out at around half what it should have
[19:20] <Kon-> hans__:
[19:20] <hans__> Kon-, well i just installed it and it didn't make a difference (haven't tried rebooting post-installation tho)
[19:20] <rivyn> Heh, I guess that I was using the classic installer with 16.04, which is where I'm pretty sure I saw the JFS option, so that's hopeful, will know in a couple minutes...
[19:20] <rivyn> I had the "live" image for 18.04
[19:20] <tomreyn> rivyn: that's a good theory (as to what it's not supported by default, as you say)
[19:21] <hans__> i guess i should add it's a cli installation with the only extra package being "ssh server" (didn't even choose "basic ubuntu server" )
[19:23] <tomreyn> s/what/why/
[19:24] <pepelo> buenas tardes
[19:24] <pepelo> a todos
[19:24] <pepelo> quines hablan español
[19:24] <tomreyn> !es | pepelo
[19:25] <rivyn> ducasse:  This looks to work perfect, thank you
[19:25] <pepelo> buenas tardes
[19:26] <ducasse> rivyn: yw :)
[19:51] <rud0lf> how do i force update kernel (the one that launches update-initramfs)?
[19:51] <rud0lf> i miss-typed Ctrl+C to copy
[19:52] <OerHeks> sudo apt install -f # would fix this?
[19:53] <rud0lf> thanks
[19:58] <amcclure> 14:44 <tomreyn> amcclure: which ubuntu version is this?
[19:58] <amcclure> 19.04 (AMD64)
[19:59] <leftyfb>  /join #google
[19:59] <leftyfb> oops :)
[20:00] <de-facto> anyone knows if there are recent builds of BlueGriffon for 18.04 ?
[20:02] <kitsune> hi all
[20:03] <OerHeks> de-facto, their site stated 16.04 deb only ..
[20:03] <SatoshiRole> Hello
[20:03] <OerHeks> Version 3.0.1 released 2017-nov-22 ... old
[20:04] <de-facto> yeah it has text artifacts on my 18.04
[20:04] <de-facto> like weird dots between letters and such
[20:04] <OerHeks> de-facto, optional: build it https://github.com/therealglazou/bluegriffon
[20:05] <de-facto> yeah... i guess it might take a while though, its mozilla engine stuff
[20:05] <OerHeks> jups
[20:06] <de-facto> ...and their advanced features (payed license) are only in their precompiled binary i guess (not sure if i ever need those though). I just wanted to take a quick look at it
[20:21] <de-facto> hmm it seems others were able to use it properly on 18.04 https://www.itsmarttricks.com/how-to-install-bluegriffon-wysiwyg-content-editor-in-ubuntu-18-04/
[20:21] <de-facto> am i missing some KDE libs?
[20:22] <de-facto> ah its Gecko based ok hmm
[20:27] <LuckyMan> how do I install mono on ubuntu 19.04?
[20:30] <s1r0ne> hi everyone
[20:32] <leftyfb> LuckyMan: https://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/  # 3rd result on google for "ubuntu mono". It doesn't look like it's a supported package
[20:35] <LuckyMan> leftyfb, been there but couldn't find a version for disco
[20:36] <LuckyMan> I'm gonna try sudo apt install mono-devel
[20:38] <LuckyMan> uau 128 new root certificates were added to your trust store.
[20:38] <LuckyMan> and I cant see no mono
[20:43] <de-facto> OerHeks, wow it checks out GB's of sources, i wish there was a binary to quickly test if its worth the effort
[20:43] <LuckyMan> Funny the compiler is installed :-)
[20:44] <de-facto> lol i dont even have enough disk space for that
[20:45] <hexhaxtron> Do you people think this antenna would be a good purchase? https://www.tendacn.com/en/product/u6.html
[20:46] <de-facto> i guess freetype is buggy on bionic
[20:46] <leftyfb> !ot | hexhaxtron
[20:50] <de-facto> i am not quite sure, BlueGriffon not rendering fonts properly (it was compiled for 16.04, I am on 18.04) might be this issue? https://github.com/adobe/brackets/issues/14290
[20:51] <leftyfb> de-facto: please contact BlueGriffon for support. We cannot support their software here.
[20:52] <de-facto> yeah i know, i just want to do a quick try if its worth the effort
[21:08] <p1rs0n> guys?
[21:08] <amcclure> p1rs0n: yes?
[21:09] <gambl0re> is s-tui same as htop?
[21:09] <p1rs0n> wow, it is someone be in online
[21:09] <leftyfb> p1rs0n: this is an ubuntu support channel. What can we help you with?
[21:10] <p1rs0n> gambl0re, why are u dont want to use htop?
[21:11] <leftyfb> gambl0re: s-tui isn't supported here.
[21:11] <gambl0re> p1rs0n, who are you?
[21:12] <hggdh> gambl0re: no, it is not the same as htop
[21:14] <gambl0re> ok
[21:15] <p1rs0n> what irc clients are the best?
[21:16] <jcotton> that's very subjective
[21:16] <Gerowen> p1rs0n: "Best" is subjective, but on desktop PC I use hexchat.
[21:16] <jcotton> irssi is a popular cli client
[21:17] <p1rs0n> ok, thx. what about bitchx?
[21:18] <lordcirth_> !bitchx | p1rs0n
[21:18] <p1rs0n> okey, thx
[21:20] <p1rs0n> what about gui components? witch from them is more beautiful?
[21:46] <hashwagon> Hey, can anyone tell me the difference between 16.04 and 16.04.6?
[21:47] <EriC^^> hashwagon: 04.xx are point releases, they have updated packages and the hwe kernels
[21:47] <jcotton> hwe?
[21:48] <EriC^^> !hwe
[21:48] <jcotton> ah
[21:57] <hashwagon> Thanks all ^^
[21:59] <isw> I want one of those new Ubuntu phones.
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> #ubuntu-discuss please isw
[22:01] <isw> Is there a channel for it by chance?
[22:02] <teb007est> I talk to someone on here about booting an iso throw grub2 I been trying this all yesterday I figure it out I installed the iso from grub2 I entered a command in the terminal but I forgot what what it was called to place a iso in /boot/ menu & update the grub using the terminal to. Could someone tell me what that first command that I need to install to place that ISO file so I can use it to get Ubuntu Desktop Version so it would be eas
[22:02] <teb007est> yer to use my computer...
[22:02] <isw> oh thanks mybad lotus
[22:04] <EriC^^> teb007est: /boot/images
[22:04] <EriC^^> you have to install a grub package
[22:05] <EriC^^> grub-imageboot
[22:15] <teb007est> Eric^^ Your the one I talk to yesterday I could not remeber that one that you said thanks a lot man I fixed my computer I am runing netmininal with openbox but know I need something kind of simplier or easy going to install Ubuntu Desktop just orginal stuff I guest
[22:15] <teb007est> Thanks Again
[22:16] <EriC^^> great good to hear you're doing good, no problem
[22:24] <teb007est> what is the terminal command to install mininal gnome desktop
[22:25] <teb007est> is it sudo apt-get install gnome-mininal
[22:25] <teb007est> cant spell sorry
[22:25] <bilb_ono> how do I fix the " dpg frontend is locked by another process error? I did sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock.... and when I do px cax | grep PID it doesn't show any process running
[22:25] <bilb_ono> this is when I try and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:25] <bilb_ono> or any other apt or apt-get command
[22:25] <bilb_ono> oh well update works
[22:26] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: does "ps aux | grep dpkg" show anything?
[22:26] <teb007est> bilb_ono : sudo su
[22:26] <bilb_ono> ooh yeah. should I kill those pids?
[22:27] <EriC^^> bilb_ono: i think it's auto updating right now
[22:27] <EriC^^> probably via unattended-upgrades
[22:27] <bilb_ono> like I just have to wait?
[22:27] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:27] <bilb_ono> this is what it gave: https://bpaste.net/show/2adcca65ea15 and as you can see I couldn't kill those pids
[22:27] <bilb_ono> for how long?
[22:29] <EriC^^> that depends on how much it's installing stuff, but i'd say like 5mins?
[22:29] <EriC^^> you couldnt kill them cause those were temp processes during a postinstall of one of the packages
[22:29] <EriC^^> i'd let it run its course
[22:30] <rwp> teb007est, "sudo apt-get install task-gnome-desktop" is where you might start.  But that is the full desktop.  You can reduce that by picking from the Depends:
[22:30] <rwp> EriC^^, "No such process" means that the process has already exited.
[22:31] <EriC^^> rwp: i know, that's why i said temp (temporary)
[22:31] <bilb_ono> huh yeah it works now
[22:31] <bilb_ono> I didn't know it did that behind the scenes stuff
[22:32] <rwp> bilb_ono, Removing a lock semaphore is almost always a good way to lead to a corruption due to collisions that the semaphore was designed to prevent.
[22:44] <xp7> gonna copy paste my chat from a different network
[22:44] <xp7> xp7> help
 i get a ~10ms lag spike in my screen compositing
 i have no idea what it could be
[22:44] <xp7> * linux has quit (Quit: Leaving)
 actaually it might not be screen buffer because it delays text input too
[22:51] <bilb_ono> is there a quick way to reformat ubuntu back to factory settings?
[22:51] <bilb_ono> other than reinstalling it?
[22:54] <xp7> bilb_ono: snapshots
[22:55] <xp7> but i didnt do one before i noticed this
[23:22] <Frankfurtsoup> Hi everyone 😊
[23:23] <xp7> hi doctor nick
[23:30] <Frankfurtsoup> Lol
[23:31] <Frankfurtsoup> Is anyone able to help with an airsonic issue at all? I tried the airsonic channel but I'm not getting any bites over there
[23:45] <wondows> In Terminal > Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts > Terminal > Reset I have assigned Ctrl+K to it. ANd it just doesn't work.
[23:47] <xp7> go to keyboard
[23:47] <xp7> you can set command bindings up there
[23:48] <xp7> if ununtu uses the same as mint anyway
[23:48] <xp7> pretty sure its the same
[23:48] <xp7> then just bind the clear command to a key combo
[23:52] <xp7> https://imgur.com/a/a1hCzbE wondows
[23:54] <wondows> xp7: this is supposed to be only for the Terminal
[23:55] <wondows> and what is that menu in the Terminal for? The shortcuts don't work. Another Ubuntu BS to add to my list of Ubuntu BS. Pisses me off
[23:58] <wondows> Is there a better terminal than stock?


[21:10] <BillGHero> I need to get deep into alsa/pulseaudio to fix a problem. Can anyone direct me to a starting point about learning how for stock ubuntu 18.04?
[21:14] <BillGHero> Specifically, with 16.04 I had different jacks on my motherboard configured to output to headphones and speakers. Only one would be active at a time. Now I do not have this option, so I assume I must dig into the configuration files.
[21:14] <BillGHero> To accomplish this, I assume I will need to learn. But I would prefer to do this in a distro-compatible way-if possible.


[00:17] <jbicha> RAOF: maybe I'll just ask you about it in Orlando
[01:23] <hallyn> oh no, amazon prime videos have stopped working in oneiric (sometime in the last week or two since last i used it)
[01:28] <hallyn> oops!  its working again
[01:28] <hallyn> i think it didn't want to tell me i wasn't fully logged in
[02:36] <chronossc> exist some app to customize energy plans for my notebook like I do in windows?
[18:04] <jack_ripper> hi, i`ve got ubuntu 11.10 and i`m using it remotely through vnc. how to turn off maximum of unity`s beauties to improove speed and save traffic?
[18:05] <ogra_> use the 2D session
[18:06] <jack_ripper> how?
[18:06] <ogra_> by selecting it at login time
[18:06] <ogra_> there might be a way to set it manually in ~/.dmrc
[18:07] <jack_ripper> thx
[22:25] <smspillaz> RAOF: soooooooooo still planning to go to UDS ;-) ?
[22:25] <smspillaz> (stuck in brisbane myself)
[23:29] <bjsnider> smspillaz, i think he got out on a plane just before the strike