[10:32] <maltron> Hobbsee: yeah, but normally I click on fetch updates and it says status: upgradable; requested: upgrade"  This is the only package which actually needs me to change "no change" to "upgrade" before clicking "apply updates"
[10:32] <Nickay> I would like to ask if there is lotus notes for Kubuntu?
[10:32] <thomas___> I do believe novell recently released lotus notes for linux
[10:32] <Hobbsee> maltron: weird.  it should be okay
[10:33] <maltron> hobbsee: okay, I'm just paranoid I'm breaking my system.   There isn't a package specifically for kubuntu that I know of, however
[10:34] <thomas___> zezelle: American, VERY little french
[10:34] <thomas___> n'est ca va pas
[10:34] <thomas___> or someting
[10:34] <zezelle> th ok sir welcome to me sir
[10:35] <Nickay> thanks thomas__
[10:35] <thomas___> Nickay: sure, if you poke around novel's website or google it I think it might pop up.  I'm trying to switch from XP to Ubuntu and trying to keep my firefox profile: how do I get my profile across successfully ?
[10:36] <Hobbsee> thomas___: i wonder.  try sudo apt-get remove --purge gtk2-engines-clearlooks gtk2-engines && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:37] <Hobbsee> thomas___: if you can pastebin that, and all that it outputs, that'd be useful
[10:37] <Jucato> does anyone know which package installs the HTML/PHP/docbook/css contents for Quanta's Documentation tab?
[10:37] <berkes> morning.
[10:38] <berkes> i've been usnig my ATI card for ages now, previous, on mandrake (it was called that, back then) I had no probs with GL / 3D,
[10:38] <berkes> but ever since I switched to (k)ubuntu it fails to run properly.
[10:38] <berkes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto tells me that I should not bother,
[10:39] <berkes> The model number for your Radeon card is 8500 or above ....
[10:39] <thomas___> Hobbsee: http://paste.uni.cc/10202
[10:39] <berkes> mine is 7000. So any hints?
[10:40] <Hobbsee> thomas___: want to pastebin apt-get -f install?
[10:40] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure it'll do much though
[10:41] <thomas___> Hobsee: http://paste.uni.cc/10203
[10:43] <douglas> Hobbsee renaming .kde worked. So now how to I fix it without loosing all her other settings?
[10:43] <zezelle> oui
[10:43] <zezelle> salut reee
[10:43] <DeadS0ul> any of you tried out krash yet?
[10:43] <Hobbsee> douglas: trial and error - put some of the files back in, see if you have a problem, etc
[10:44] <douglas> thanks
[10:44] <Hobbsee> thomas___: grr.  so it is a packaging error.
[10:44] <Hobbsee> thomas___: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/gtk2-engines_1%3a2.8.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[10:45] <thomas___> alright, now throw down with a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:46] <Hobbsee> thomas___: yep
[10:46] <thomas___> Hobbsee: pure unfettered genius. You rock
[10:46] <Hobbsee> thomas___: i'm about to fix said bug anyway :)
[10:47] <Hobbsee> i hope
[10:47] <thomas___> Oh, didn't know you were a dev
[10:47] <thomas___> respect
[10:47] <ajmitch> not just 'a' dev
[10:50] <Lynoure> the dev? =)
[10:51] <Jucato> the DEVil...  I'm not supposed to run "make" w/ "sudo"...  :(
[10:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:54] <llxcamxll> so whats this full upgrade gonna do for me
[10:56] <Hobbsee> bug 59969
[10:56] <Jucato> hmm... Ubugtu??
[10:57] <llxcamxll> !fullupgrade
[10:57] <Jucato> rawr...
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fullupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <Hobbsee> obviously that plugin isnt on in here
[10:57] <abattoir> llxcamxll: 'Full Upgrade' where? in adept?
[10:57] <Jucato> Hobbsee: then why do we have Ubugtu here?
[10:57] <abattoir> @time UTC
[10:57] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: September 19 2006, 08:57:57
[10:58] <abattoir> Jucato: for that :P
[10:58] <Jucato> abattoir: aaah that one...
[10:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: for other things....
[10:58] <abattoir> hehe, just kidding
[10:58] <Hobbsee> oh that sucks.  mvo didtn fix the package hard enough
[10:58] <Hobbsee> oh, wait
[10:58] <Hobbsee> thomas___: can you run apt-cache policy gtk2-engines please?
[10:59] <llxcamxll> yeah in adept man
[10:59] <zezelle> Unknownkm
[10:59] <Hobbsee> thomas___: gah.  known bug, fix is getting built.
[10:59] <Jucato> Hobbsee: which gtk2-engine?
[10:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: the one that replaces all of them
[11:00] <thomas___> Hobbsee: that's cool. In fact, I may have ran into another
[11:00] <thomas___> but I ran a sudo apt-get install -f and things seem to be running again
[11:00] <Jucato> llxcamxll: Full Upgrade in Adept = apt-get dist-upgrade; meaning it updates/installs stuff but might also remove packages when necessary
[11:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh... that on Edgy?
[11:00] <llxcamxll> k
[11:00] <Hobbsee> yes
[11:00] <Jucato> aaaah oooh
[11:00] <Hobbsee> gtk2-engines (1:2.8.0-0ubuntu2) edgy; urgency=low
[11:00] <Hobbsee>   * updated Conflicts/Replaces to match reality (lp: #59969)
[11:00] <Hobbsee>  -- Michael Vogt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:29:18 +0200
[11:00] <Hobbsee> it should be there
[11:01] <Jucato> "to match reality"???
[11:01] <Hobbsee> oh, wait, i'ts not even in the archive yet, apparently
[11:01] <Hobbsee> but the source is here
[11:01] <Hobbsee> say what?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: heh, yes.  codename for "i screwed it up"
[11:01] <Jucato> lol
[11:02] <Hobbsee> something's screwed up badly here
[11:02] <zezelle> ree
[11:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:03] <Hobbsee> he fixed it again
[11:04] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I guess you'd notice by now that very few people here actually understand what you're saying/trying to do :P
[11:04] <Hobbsee> right
[11:04] <Hobbsee> i've FOUND THE SOLUTION!
[11:04] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: yes, solution is, turn off capslock ;)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> @lart Tm_T
[11:05] <Jucato> lol
[11:05] <Jucato> hah!
[11:05] <Fade> 'morning
[11:05] <Jucato> he is soooo going to be puzzled :)
[11:07] <thomas___> man this is taking forever
[11:07] <thomas___> crazy
[11:07] <zezelle> crazy no sir
[11:07] <Fade> in the continuing saga of xemacs, it's still bjorked.
[11:07] <Hobbsee> thomas___: indeed.
[11:07] <Jucato> wb Tm_T :)
[11:07] <zezelle> Fade: hello
[11:07] <Fade> hello
[11:08] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you want the translation?  see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gtk2-engines/1:2.8.0-0ubuntu3 and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gtk2-engines/+changelog
[11:08] <michael159> hi, i'm a kubuntu newbie and just trying out the dapper live cd with my amd64x2 (3800+) processor. unfortunately "cat /proc/cpuinfo" says only 1000 MHz per core instead of the expected 2000
[11:08] <michael159> can anybodz help?
[11:08] <thomas___> michael159: cpu scaling
[11:09] <thomas___> michael159: I gotta 1.6Ghz that scales down to 800 when it's not busy
[11:10] <michael159> hm, thomas___ . i made a quick performance check with the distributed.net client (64-bit version) and its only half as fast as the 32-bit version under win2k :/
[11:10] <thomas___> heh, I got nothin' else for ya then :D
[11:11] <michael159> okay, thanks anyway :)
[11:14] <harry> hey, is there an equivalent package for libxineextracodecs in breezy badger??
[11:14] <Jucato> harry: afaik, no :(
[11:14] <abattoir> harry: you want mp3 support in amarok?
[11:15] <harry> #abattoir, yeap
[11:15] <abattoir> harry: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[11:15] <harry> #abattoir, and divx, and all that stuff
[11:16] <abattoir> harry: in kaffeine? try installing the appropriate gstreamer plugin
[11:16] <abattoir> *name
[11:16] <thomas___> Hobbsee: Looks like we're in the clear. Gonna give'r a reboot. See if she holds up
[11:16] <Hobbsee> thomas___: nice :)
[11:16] <thomas___> thanks for your help, I really appreciate it
[11:17] <abattoir> harry: search for gstreamer(or just gst) in adept, and look at the descriptions, and install the package that you need.
[11:17] <Jucato> abattoir: btw, the RestrictedFormats page do have instructions for Kubuntu Breezy
[11:17] <harry> ok ok   thanks guys  let me take a look around
[11:21] <Jucato> Kubuntu Edgy Knot 3 shots (features new USplash, Login Screen, KSplash, and new color scheme): http://jucato.multiply.com/photos/album/24
[11:33] <rockprincess> hi
[11:35] <rockprincess> does anyone know if there are any viruses for kubuntu?
[11:38] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: not really
[11:38] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: google for linux viruses
[11:38] <rockprincess> JohnFlux: I did...and it said "No viruses for Ubuntu"...
[11:39] <rockprincess> i just wanted to make sure that i'm on the safe side :D
[11:39] <MDCore> Kubuntu == Ubuntu + a K... I mean Ubuntu + KDE
[11:39] <rockprincess> that's why I moved from windows to kubuntu....
[11:39] <rockprincess> MDCore: yeah I know ;)
[11:40] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: i said linux, not ubuntu :P
[11:41] <rockprincess> Is it adviseable though to have an Anti-Virus software?
[11:42] <JohnFlux> rockprincess: i don't think many people do
[11:44] <MDCore> linux/unix is less susceptible to viruses for a few reasons:
[11:44] <MDCore> 1 - most people don't run as root ala windows
[11:44] <MDCore> 2 - it's not nearly as popular as windows
[11:45] <rockprincess> MDCore: true, I understand your reasons......
[11:46] <MDCore> To properly answer your question though... (sorry)
[11:46] <MDCore> Rather have increased security than less.
[11:56] <paul____> I've been (trying) to use kmail and kontact for the last few weeks, but I'm having problems
[11:56] <paul____> I'm using an IMAPS server
[11:56] <paul____> and it seems that there could be problems
[11:57] <paul____> anyone got any hints/suggestions?
[11:59] <rockprincess> what are the problems? maybe I can help?
[12:01] <paul____> sorry - was on phone
[12:01] <paul____> right - issues are that sometimes it will not startup at all
[12:01] <paul____> you have to go kill all the imap connections
[12:01] <paul____> and then restart
[12:01] <paul____> and then after use for a few minutes
[12:02] <paul____> it goes and dies on me - it hangs on a connection
[12:02] <paul____> doesn't happen on POP3, just IMAp
[12:02] <rockprincess> maybe it's your Imap server?
[12:02] <paul____> nope - been using it for 2 years with various other clients
[12:02] <paul____> been using kmail for a few weeks
[12:02] <paul____> no problems with other clients
[12:03] <paul____> any ideas?
[12:05] <rockprincess> hmm i see
[12:05] <rockprincess> no ideas, mate...sorry!
[12:06] <paul____> ok thx
[12:06] <paul____> I'm really stuck on this one because kmail has egroupware support
[12:07] <paul____> sorry - kontact does
[12:07] <paul____> and it would be really helpful for it to work properly (without needing to be restarted every few minutes) with imap
[12:14] <fat_basterd21> what up ppls
[12:15] <fat_basterd21> can you put kubuntu on a usb hdd
[12:16] <copter> it was easy to done on Hoary so probably it is still possible on Dapper
[12:16] <fat_basterd21> IS ANY1 LISTENING
[12:17] <fat_basterd21> WHA
[12:17] <fat_basterd21> t
[12:24] <kubuntu501> osten
[12:24] <wiesel> sueden
[12:24] <osten> Hey
[12:25] <kubuntu501> heey
[12:38] <lecci> hi
[12:38] <mad_man> No excellent soul is exempt from a mixture of madness
[12:39] <lecci> i wont install coWPAtty and i istall openssl but make an error... someone can help me?
[12:40] <mad_man> A good supervisor can step on your toes without messing up your shine
[12:41] <mad_man> f u cn rd ths, u r prbbly a lsy spllr
[12:42] <Jucato> mad_man: please try not to spam the channel. thanks
[12:42] <mad_man> not spam just fun
[12:43] <Jucato> just try not to over do it :)
[12:44] <mad_man> no one was talking just throing some tid-bits out there :-)
 f u cn rd ths, u r prbbly a lsy spllr <--- tell that to Motorola :P
[12:44] <mad_man> lol
[12:47] <mad_man> Jucato: me is older person, late start, here spam comes in a can. is there channels where it's just open talking ?
[12:47] <Jucato> mad_man: something like #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:48] <Jucato> spam is too salty :P
[01:12] <CroX> I really cannot get the "third level" characters of my keyboard to work.. Anyone care to help me out?
[01:12] <CroX> ALT+<number> just acts as macros. Like, in Konversation, it switches tabs.
[01:13] <CroX> And coding PHP without is dollar sign is hard, to say the least. :P
[01:18] <Zakalwe_> I'm getting this error today on an apt-get dist-upgrade -u on Edgy.   Setting up kdelibs-data (3.5.4-0ubuntu14) ... Failed to write hash table
[01:18] <Zakalwe_> Any Ideas?
[01:27] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[01:42] <jihi_labtop> so ^
[01:42] <SillyZ> mm good morning
[01:43] <CroX> !ati
[01:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:45] <SillyZ> ubotu: I have a ATI 9200, installed Kubuntu on it, and it configured everything correctly on a default installation
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I have a ATI 9200, installed Kubuntu on it, and it configured everything correctly on a default installation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <SillyZ> ah ubotu is a bot... heheheh
[01:56] <_powermac> sorry, no idea.
[01:56] <Skrot> Anyone now how to get video (with xv) on multiple monitors at the same time (running dual head clone view mode)?
[01:56] <_powermac> i still have a problem with perl/TK
[01:57] <_powermac> wow, sounds too complicated for me!
[01:57] <_powermac> any perl/TK experts?
[01:58] <octan> how do i grab a file with wget ?
[01:58] <octan> wget -r url/filename ?
[02:03] <_powermac> ok, anyone ever install Mapivi?
[02:03] <gupta> I can't play this video: http://www.plasticlogic.com/downloads/800x600%20A5%20100ppi.wmv - w32codecs are installed.
[02:03] <gupta> btw thats a pretty nice eink vidoe ;)
[02:04] <abattoir> gupta: plays for me
[02:05] <_powermac> what program do you use?
[02:05] <gupta> mplayer
[02:05] <abattoir> kaffeine?
[02:05] <gupta> ok I'll try with kaffeine
[02:05] <gupta> how's the video btw :D
[02:05] <_powermac> isn;t there a real player for linux?
[02:05] <_powermac> helix player?
[02:05] <octan> how do i set up a crond job at 6pm ?
[02:05] <abattoir> gupta: its 11 sec. ?
[02:06] <_powermac> i think there is a GUI control panerl for chron too
[02:07] <gupta> octan: try kcron
[02:07] <octan> no.. i need a cli command
[02:07] <_powermac> ah
[02:11] <crexpo_> espaol?
[02:11] <abattoir> !es
[02:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:11] <abattoir> crexpo_: ^^^
[02:11] <crexpo_> ok sir
[02:12] <ootput> hi guys, is there a way to change themes/colorschemes for kde apps when not running in a kde-environment?
[02:12] <ootput> say, from ubuntu?
[02:13] <gupta> kcontrol?
[02:13] <ootput> also, i'm interested in changing the iconset to the tango set on kde-look
[02:13] <abattoir> ootput: you can manually replace the files...
[02:13] <ootput> abattoir: there's no way to view and select themes?
[02:13] <nictsa> hi to all , any help with knetworkmanager?
[02:13] <abattoir> ootput: but i think it wont be easy
[02:13] <ootput> gupta: i don't have kde-desktop (or whatever the name of the meta-package is)
[02:14] <ootput> mayank?
[02:14] <abattoir> ootput: i'm not aware of one... other than installing kcontrol(which pulls down almost all of kde)
[02:14] <frojnd> When I try to install macromedia flashplayer it announce an error: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. Can someone help me install this plugin
[02:14] <abattoir> frojnd: are you on an amd 64 machine w/ an amd64 install of kubuntu?
[02:14] <ootput> frojnd: have you had any luck with a chroot install?
[02:14] <frojnd> yjes
[02:14] <frojnd> amd 64
[02:14] <frojnd> kubuntu
[02:15] <NeoSaki> frojnd: get a 32-bit version of Firefox
[02:15] <frojnd> hm
[02:15] <abattoir> frojnd: well, then there is no Adobe Flash for 64-bit
[02:15] <frojnd> aha
[02:15] <NeoSaki> abattoir: i use flash
[02:15] <abattoir> frojnd: either do as NeoSaki says, or setup a chroot...
[02:15] <frojnd> how can I install 32-bit version for mozilla
[02:16] <NeoSaki> frojnd: do you specifically want mozilla or just firefox
[02:16] <abattoir> NeoSaki: well, there is no Adobe Flash for 64-bit, i guess you are using a 32-bit plugin :)
[02:16] <frojnd> firefox
[02:16] <NeoSaki> and either way, adept/synaptic should have it
[02:16] <CroX> !pastebin
[02:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:16] <frojnd> NeoSaki adept/synaptec is a directory?
[02:17] <frojnd> I am asking if there is a way to install 32-bit throuh apt
[02:17] <NeoSaki> frojnd: adept and synaptic are a gui for apt-get
[02:17] <frojnd> aha
[02:17] <tekeo___> !mp3 tekeo___
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 tekeo___ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <frojnd> and I am searching for synaptec?
[02:18] <abattoir> !mp3 > tekeo___
[02:18] <NeoSaki> frojnd: k-menu -> system -> adept
[02:18] <NeoSaki> and search for firefox
[02:19] <SillyZ> q: whats one of the 'better' mp3 players for linux beyond xmms? need graphic eq functions and hopefully something that has some audio enhancement capabilities
[02:19] <SillyZ> running kubuntu of course
[02:20] <abattoir> SillyZ: amarok..?
[02:20] <abattoir> !amarok
[02:20] <NeoSaki> SillyZ: amaroK
[02:20] <Martijn81> I have a stupid question, sort of.... kmail lists an email in the send folder with sender as my main account while i've send it with my second. Isn't this strange?
[02:20] <abattoir> SillyZ: its already installed Kmenu->Multimedia->Amarok
[02:20] <SillyZ> amarok... ok ill give it a shot
[02:20] <NeoSaki> hey Jucato
[02:21] <Jucato> hi :)
[02:21] <abattoir> SillyZ: you might want to upgrade to the latest version though
[02:22] <SillyZ> hmmm dosent have the 'crunch' that xmms has.... seems a bit 'toned' down ( yes Ive set the eq )
[02:23] <SillyZ> hmmm if i crank everything to max audio, system audio and audio levels in amarok, now i can almost get the volume level i like
[02:24] <SillyZ> it is much nicer than xmms tho ill say that
[02:26] <frojnd> I've installed firefox with adept; where is now firefox ?
[02:27] <NeoSaki> kmenu -> internet -> firefox
[02:27] <NeoSaki> then just get the firefox plugin for Flash
[02:27] <frojnd> NeoSaki, I've allready cheked there but it's not there :S
[02:28] <frojnd> I got the same problem with kmplayer
[02:28] <NeoSaki> frojnd: whatchu mean?
[02:28] <frojnd> whe I go to Kmenu ->internet there is no firefox icon :S
[02:28] <Jucato> frojnd: type this in Konsole to update the K Menu: kbuildsycoca --incremental (ignore the error messages) then check your menu again
[02:29] <Jucato> frojnd: btw, Ubuntu doesn't use the official Firefox icon. it's a customized icon
[02:29] <frojnd> Jucato tnx ;)
[02:29] <frojnd> where did u pick that command
[02:29] <Jucato> frojnd: from someone else :)
[02:30] <frojnd> :)
[02:30] <frojnd> linp2linp
[02:30] <SillyZ> now there was one application under g-ubuntu that I noticed was prebuilt, but under k-ubuntu, it does not seem to be available.... is there anyway of manually installing this package???
[02:31] <Jucato> SillyZ: what app is that?
[02:31] <benji> man...I am ready to break something...oh wait it's already broke...
[02:31] <SillyZ> antennavis
[02:31] <benji> I can't access anything from my source.list from apt-get or adept
[02:32] <benji> again
[02:32] <benji> I have tried everything
[02:32] <xwolf-> SillyZ go to adept and look for the package.
[02:32] <Jucato> SillyZ: it's in the repositories
[02:32] <Jucato> !antennavis
[02:32] <ubotu> antennavis: antenna visualization software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 280 kB
[02:33] <benji> apt-get is trying to connect to archive.ubuntu.com at ip address <IP_ADDRESS>...now that doesn't sound right....when I ping it, it says ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:33] <benji> anyone got any ideas?
[02:33] <NeoSaki> ummm >_>
[02:33] <NeoSaki> sounds like a screw up in your hosts
[02:34] <SillyZ> theres a 0.3 version but I found a 0.25 version, ill see if I can get that to install (antennavis)
[02:35] <benji> I checked the nameservers in the /etc/resolve.conf
[02:35] <SillyZ> kewl 0.2.5 runs.... woohoo! now to find 0.3
[02:36] <SillyZ> ,dsc is debin source correct?
[02:36] <xwolf-> benji consider getting a fresh sources.list file..
[02:36] <benji> yeah...did that, twice
[02:36] <benji> replaced it twice already
[02:36] <benji> no difference
[02:37] <benji> I'm wondering about this host file in etc
[02:37] <benji> if maybe I should try something there
[02:37] <xwolf-> hm. so it is rerouting the repos to <IP_ADDRESS> then... yeah, probably hosts file
[02:37] <benji> should I just add my router ip there?
[02:37] <SillyZ> I think we got it ... found a 0.3-2 version of antennavis ... thanks yall
[02:40] <benji> so does anyone know what I might want to add to this hosts file?
[02:41] <benji> it has the <IP_ADDRESS>	localhost thing going on....
[02:41] <benji> but nothing else
[02:43] <benji> I mean I guess I could add the archive.ubuntu.com there witht he current ip address
[02:43] <benji> but that would just be a temporary workaround....
[02:44] <tekeo___> hello I want to install cedega and I'm trying to do so from a .deb file so I do sudo dpkg -i cedega.deb however I get this error:
[02:44] <tekeo___> Unpacking cedega (from cedega_5.1_i386.deb) ...
[02:44] <tekeo___> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cedega:
[02:44] <tekeo___>  cedega depends on xlibs (>> 4.1.0); however:
[02:44] <tekeo___>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[02:44] <tekeo___> dpkg: error processing cedega (--install):
[02:44] <tekeo___>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:44] <tekeo___> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:44] <tekeo___>  cedega
[02:45] <NeoSaki> tekeo___: Simple, install xlibs
[02:45] <SillyZ> ok using dpkg whats the command to uninstall ?
[02:45] <tekeo___> cannot find the package
[02:45] <SillyZ> --remove?
[02:45] <tekeo___> I find xlibs-dev though
[02:45] <NeoSaki> use it
[02:46] <tekeo___> NeoSaki: still doesn't work
[02:46] <NeoSaki> what version of xlibs, tekeo___?
[02:47] <NeoSaki> or google for xlibs, download source, configure and compile
[02:47] <NeoSaki> ^^
[02:47] <tekeo___> NeoSaki: 7.0.0
[02:48] <tekeo___> NeoSaki: when I do sudo apt-get install xlibs I get this:
[02:48] <tekeo___> However the following packages replace it:
[02:48] <tekeo___>   libxft1 xkeyboard-config
[02:48] <ruffy> hey all
[02:48] <ruffy> i have a bit of a problem
[02:48] <tekeo___> NeoSaki should I install xkeyboard-config?
[02:48] <ruffy> i set up kubuntu
[02:48] <ruffy> through alternate install cd
[02:49] <ruffy> but i dont seem to have any root account
[02:49] <benji> get used to it
[02:49] <benji> there is no root in kubuntu
[02:49] <ruffy> su asks for a password, but doesn't accept anything
[02:49] <benji> sudo this and sudo that
[02:49] <ruffy> yeah
[02:49] <ruffy> well how do i setup the sudo password
[02:49] <ruffy> ?
[02:49] <xwolf-> tekeo___ i've seen somewhere this xlibs package isn't that important. i downloaded a dummy package and installed it just to get a green light for cedega
[02:50] <xwolf-> but i still couldn't install anything with cedega :P
[02:50] <powermac_> sudo -s
[02:50] <benji> I have no clue....you were never asked for a password during the install
[02:50] <benji> ?
[02:50] <powermac_> will put you into root permanently in konsole
[02:50] <ruffy> only for an account password
[02:50] <benji> and that one won't work?
[02:50] <benji> yeah, sudo -s
[02:50] <benji> a good trick
[02:50] <ruffy> alright
[02:50] <ruffy> i'll try it
[02:51] <powermac_> so dothis: sudo -s
[02:51] <powermac_> in ckonsole
[02:51] <ruffy> nope
[02:51] <powermac_> then it asks for your password
[02:51] <ruffy> asks for a password
[02:51] <ruffy> which i dont have
[02:51] <powermac_> right, so put it in
[02:51] <ruffy> oh
[02:51] <ruffy> wait
[02:51] <ruffy> it worked
[02:51] <ruffy> k thanks
[02:51] <powermac_> did you install the system?
[02:51] <powermac_> then you have a password
[02:52] <powermac_> ok, if you want to move things in a GUI,
[02:52] <powermac_> now type "konqueror"
[02:52] <powermac_> and konquerer will open with root priveledges
[02:53] <benji> good tip...can I make an alias or script to open konqueror as root?
[02:53] <powermac_> hmm
[02:53] <galorin> I'm looking for a way that I can have kdm automatically start 2 sessions, and log them both in automatically as different users.
[02:53] <powermac_> perhaps in the k menu someplace
[02:54] <benji> I kind of believe that a gui should be just that...haha
[02:54] <powermac_> maybe in the "run a command"
[02:54] <benji> they should add a file manage as root thing in kubuntu
[02:54] <powermac_> actually, you can creat another user
[02:54] <powermac_> which logs in as root
[02:55] <powermac_> in a GUI
[02:55] <powermac_> i read how to do that someplace
[02:55] <powermac_> search for "GUI root user kubuntu" or something like that
[02:55] <benji> I like how in mepis you right click some root privleged file and it has the option 'edit as root', or 'rn as root'
[02:55] <benji> or is that another distro
[02:55] <benji> can't recall
[02:55] <powermac_> you have to modify a config file someplace
[02:56] <powermac_> well, konqueror also has an "execute a command" option nder the "tools" menu
[02:57] <benji> great...now I can't even ping archive.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <powermac_> contro+E
[02:57] <powermac_> control+E
[02:58] <powermac_> or keep 2 konqueror window open, 1 as root, the other as normal
[02:58] <benji> something really screwy is happening with my dns resolve...
[02:59] <benji> I wish I was smart enough to fix it
[02:59] <xwolf-> to open konqueror as root, alt f2 -> kdesu konqueror
[02:59] <powermac_> wehre to put that comand?
[02:59] <benji> sometimes the archive.ubuntu.com will ping and sometimes it won't
[03:00] <ruffy> hey again'
[03:00] <ruffy> whats the address for cups?
[03:00] <ruffy> to setup my printer
[03:00] <benji> the address for cups?
[03:00] <ruffy> yeah
[03:01] <benji> set it up with add programs
[03:01] <ruffy> it's like anb IP
[03:01] <benji> adept
[03:01] <ruffy> to access my printer
[03:01] <ruffy> adept?
[03:01] <benji> oh...
[03:01] <ruffy> apt?
[03:01] <benji> I have no idea about that
[03:01] <benji> sorry
[03:01] <ruffy> oh
[03:01] <ruffy> well
[03:01] <ruffy> then how do i turn on hplips?
[03:01] <benji> is it a network printer or something?
[03:01] <ruffy> it's not accessing hp setup command
[03:02] <fignew> ruffy: from the command line?
[03:02] <ruffy> yeah
[03:03] <benji> hey, does this happen to anyone else, when you click on an icon on menu app, it pretends like it is busy opening and then just disappears and never opens???  how bizarre....
[03:03] <MuJ> what are you trying to launch?
[03:04] <benji> it's done it with several apps
[03:04] <benji> adept
[03:04] <benji> wireless assistant
[03:04] <benji> firefox
[03:04] <xwolf-> benji the icon bounces for 30 seconds, then it stops. but the program still opens (or keeps trying to)
[03:04] <powermac_> for me it happened on gimp
[03:04] <benji> nah, it bounces for that long and then just goes away
[03:04] <MuJ> maybe you should try to launch them from konsole and see what if there's some errors
[03:04] <benji> good idea
[03:05] <powermac_> but i then went to adept and saw it wasnt installed!
[03:05] <MuJ> adept is wierd.. use apt-get ;P
[03:06] <bobbin> or apititude
[03:06] <benji> well, I opened from the konsole and it worked...
[03:06] <benji> but it did say X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 first off
[03:06] <bobbin> i mean aptititude :-)
[03:06] <benji> don't know what that means
[03:06] <bobbin> aptitude, excuse me
[03:07] <MuJ> benji: it's not important
[03:07] <benji> I hope the next kubuntu release is better...
[03:07] <benji> this one has given me headaches
[03:07] <zorglu_> !baddevice
[03:07] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[03:07] <zorglu_> benji: it was for you :)
[03:07] <benji> I'll read it
[03:08] <zorglu_> benji: the next one will be better and you will be more used to the linux way :) so better all around :)
[03:08] <benji> yeah, true...
[03:09] <MuJ> I bet efty will give lots of headaches when it's released
[03:09] <benji> now if I could just use apt-get....
[03:10] <zorglu_> benji: what is the trouble with apt-get
[03:10] <MuJ> apt-cache search package, apt-get install package
[03:10] <benji> why oh why does it think every repository source is <IP_ADDRESS>?????
[03:10] <benji> and connection times out
[03:10] <MuJ> O_o
[03:10] <benji> replaced the sources.list already
[03:10] <benji> got rid of ip6
[03:11] <MuJ> did you run apt-get update?
[03:11] <zorglu_> benji: explain it in more details please :)
[03:11] <benji> checked my resolve list name servers
[03:11] <benji> okay...
[03:11] <zorglu_> benji: what do you do and what does it do you dont like :)
[03:11] <benji> I run apt-get update and it says....
[03:11] <benji> 0% connenting archive.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <benji> (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:12] <benji> and the connection times out
[03:12] <zorglu_> can you cut past the output of apt-get ?
[03:12] <benji> hold on
[03:12] <MuJ> your resolv is fudged up
[03:12] <powermac_> know anything about perl/TK?
[03:13] <powermac_> i'm trying to use MApivi, a picture viewer
[03:13] <zorglu_> powermac_: i guess the dedicated channel for this has a lot more people knowing stuff about it :)
[03:13] <powermac_> wehre is that?
[03:13] <zorglu_> powermac_: #tcl seems a good place for that :)
[03:14] <powermac_> ok, i'll try. thanks.
[03:14] <benji> well, i can't highlite to copy for some reson....
[03:14] <zorglu_> benji:  to learn how to cut/paste is a first step in getting efficient help :)
[03:14] <benji> but it says [connecting to nz.archive.ubuntu.co, {<IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:14] <zorglu_> !cut
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <benji> I'm telling you it won't copy
[03:14] <zorglu_> let see if the bot got a page on this :)
[03:15] <marcus_> Is the 27 kernel unbroken does anybody know?
[03:15] <xwolf-> well, i've just downloaded it. but haven't restarted yet :)
[03:15] <benji> eventually it says Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[03:15] <xwolf-> if it's broken, somebody ought to say it right now :P
[03:16] <marcus_> thats why i asked :)
[03:16] <MuJ> that ip is wroonng!
[03:16] <benji> yeah...I reckon so
[03:16] <Tm_T> MuJ: you're wrong ip
[03:16] <benji> when I ping it I get <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:17] <benji> all my internet works except when it comes to apt-get or adept
[03:17] <zorglu_> what about web browsing
[03:17] <benji> yep, no prob
[03:17] <zorglu_> and btw fix the cut/past thing :)
[03:17] <benji> I', doing msn, chat, web browsing
[03:18] <benji> cut is working now...
[03:18] <zorglu_> ok do 'telnet archive.ubuntu.com 80' and cut/past the result
[03:18] <benji> sometimes it won't highlight for some reason
[03:18] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[03:18] <zorglu_> there is a doc to learn how to do that
[03:18] <benji> okay, hold on
[03:18] <marcus_> anybody have a guess why fglrx-ati has problems with radeon express cards?
[03:18] <benji> telnet connected
[03:18] <marcus_> sure doesn't like the one in my toshiba. :)
[03:19] <zorglu_> hehe benji you really dont like cut/paste :)
[03:19] <marcus_> oh yeah and I would like to install linux on my fujitsu. Any way to do this lacking an external cd?
[03:20] <benji> I'll try to improve in that area
[03:20] <zorglu_> ok i have to go, but cut/paste is important for us because we need to know exactly what is going on :) thing which seems unimportant to you may be very important for us to help you :)
[03:20] <benji> okay wierd...I just exited telnet and tried spt-get update...
[03:20] <zorglu_> there is a whole book indexed on the ubuntu web site to learn how to do common thing
[03:20] <benji> and it started working
[03:20] <zorglu_> hehehe :)
[03:20] <NeoSaki> oh the fun of compiling a linux kernel
[03:20] <NeoSaki> >_>
[03:20] <zorglu_> cool :)
[03:21] <benji> yeah...but it seems like a bug in konsole
[03:21] <benji> that sometimes it just randomly won't highlight
[03:21] <zorglu_> benji: either you are the only one getting the bug or you simply dont know yet how to use it :)
[03:22] <benji> left click and drag over text to select....
[03:22] <benji> sometimes it works...sometimes not
[03:22] <benji> in konsole
[03:23] <benji> anyway, I think I still will have to fix something....sometimes I am able to ping the archives and then a second later, I'm not...
[03:23] <benji> after this should I run apt-get upgrade?
[03:24] <tony_> hello :)
[03:25] <benji> linux reminds me of DOS...so much typing....
[03:25] <tony_> i was wondring, i just installed ubuntu server , so now i have daulboot using grub, i was wondring , how can i remove the server and grub , and returning my system to single boot?
[03:26] <NeoSaki> tony: how did you install grub, to the MBA or to the /boot/ portion?
[03:26] <tony_> i have single harddrive, partitioned in two ext3 and swap .. so i installed the server on second partition
[03:27] <tony_> so i guess is MBA ????
[03:27] <tony_> :|
[03:27] <zorglu_> tony_: simply put the grub timer to a very short delay ?
[03:27] <zorglu_> like you got the partition you want to boot 1 sec after grub start, would that be good ?
[03:28] <tony_> if i don't do anything , grub is  loading shell
[03:29] <tony_> how can i do that ??
[03:29] <tony_> just wondring
[03:29] <zorglu_> there is a timeout variable in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:29] <tony_> if i delete the second partition , would that get me back to single boot ?
[03:29] <zorglu_> timeout         10
[03:29] <arienh4> hmm, this is the 3rd time i'm asking, but KPersonalizer keeps starting
[03:29] <zorglu_> something like that
[03:29] <benji> hmmm....I wonder how much of my precious bandwidth this apt-get update is using....
[03:29] <arienh4> i tried 2 workarounds
[03:30] <zorglu_> tony_: and you got the default vraiable which determine which partiion is started by default
[03:30] <zorglu_> tony_: something like "default         0"
[03:31] <zorglu_> tony_: with those 2 variables you could reach your goal i think, if i understand what you want :)
[03:31] <zorglu_> ok now see ya. and have fun :)
[03:31] <arienh4> there was a workaround for the startup scirpt i didn't try, but i can't find it anymore
[03:31] <benji> you can go into grub command line as well, I did it once...
[03:32] <benji> and choose the partition I wanted
[03:32] <tony_> well, default is set to 0 and timeout set to 3.. do i have to remove # signe
[03:32] <rod> hi, can anyone help with getting Xgl working with Dapper?  I'm trying to install the compiz-kde package but get a problem with dependencies?
[03:33] <jatos> wheres the best place to get help compilikng glibc?
[03:33] <NeoSaki> jatos: what seems to be the problem?
[03:34] <copter_> arienh4 : you still have problems with KPersonalizer poping all the time?
[03:34] <jatos> http://www.jatos.co.uk/jamie/page.php?page=8
[03:34] <arienh4> yup
[03:34] <jatos> I get that error when trying to compile it
[03:34] <copter_> arienh4 : ok wait
[03:34] <jatos> whilst I am compiling it on kubuntu, I am chroot'ed into an LFS temp env
[03:34] <copter_> arienh4 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231432
[03:35] <copter_> arienh4 : had the same problem couple of days ago
[03:36] <arienh4> that didn't work for me...
[03:36] <rod> hi, can anyone help with getting Xgl working with Dapper?  I'm trying to install the compiz-kde package but get a problem with dependencies?
[03:36] <copter_> wow. it worked like a charm for me
[03:37] <arienh4> because the file is empty
[03:37] <copter_> maybe you edited wrong file
[03:37] <copter_> yes
[03:37] <copter_> create it
[03:37] <copter_> and add 2 lines
[03:37] <copter_> [General]
[03:37] <copter_> FirstLogin=false
[03:38] <tekeo___> I want to install a newer version of cedega and need to remove the old one however it doesn't work when I do: sudo dpkg -r cedega.deb I get this message: dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in. Anyone know how to uninstall it?
[03:38] <Tm_T> tekeo___: sudo dpkg -r cedega
[03:38] <Tm_T> if you remove, you don't name the package but the app
[03:39] <copter_> sudo apt-get remove cedega
[03:39] <copter_> afaik dpkg accepts only files, not name
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> rod, i got it to work on Edgy
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:41] <rod> ok, thanks a lot Admiral_Chicago!
[03:42] <benji> haha, so finally, the apt-get update finished succesfully...and the first thing I did after was:
[03:42] <benji> ping archive.ubuntu.com
[03:42] <benji> PING archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:42] <benji> stalled out
[03:44] <jeisma> can someone help mewit kubuntu?
[03:45] <jeisma> anyone?
[03:45] <benji> well, I am a newbie as they say, but tell me the prob
[03:45] <benji> maybe I have come accross it
[03:45] <Jucato> !ask
[03:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:45] <NeoSaki> jeisma: don't ask for help, ask a question
[03:45] <jeisma> i want to run firefox
[03:45] <jeisma> i downloaded it
[03:45] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, i can try
[03:46] <jeisma> and it just opens the file?
[03:46] <jeisma> rather than running it
[03:46] <Jucato> hm... "don't ask to ask, just ask.. :)"
[03:46] <jeisma> to install
[03:46] <vge> or get it from apt-get
[03:46] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, no
[03:46] <NeoSaki> jeisma: kmenu -> system -> adept
[03:46] <Jucato> jeisma: you can try installing it from the repositories to make your life easier :)
[03:46] <Admiral_Chicago> open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[03:46] <jeisma> i trried using adept
[03:46] <jeisma> ah ok
[03:47] <arienh4> i'm wondering, what would happen if you install the kde package itself?
[03:47] <NeoSaki> man...compiling the modules for the kernel is taking longer than compiling the kernel itself
[03:47] <warnet> aloo
[03:47] <Jucato> arienh4: which kde package?
[03:47] <benji> well, whenever I try to install .deb packages, I can never find the application afterwards
[03:48] <yudis> aloo
[03:48] <benji> anyway, I gotta get to sleep...thanks for all the advice guys
[03:48] <Jucato> benji: if it installed properly, it should (emphasis on should) be added automatically to the K Menu. But sometimes it doesn't
[03:48] <benji> hmmm.....
[03:48] <Jucato> benji: if that happens, you can type in "kbuildsycoca --incremental" in Konsole (ignore error messages)
[03:48] <benji> yeah, it didn't on the two I tried
[03:48] <benji> oh, okay...
[03:49] <Jucato> benji: it might also be the case that the apps weren't really meant to have K Menu entries
[03:49] <jeisma> i typed in sudo apt-get install firefox but it didnt find it?
[03:49] <jeisma> its in my home folder
[03:49] <arienh4> Jucato: THE kde package
[03:49] <Jucato> jeisma: most probably, you don't have the necessary repositories enabled
[03:50] <Jucato> !kde
[03:50] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:50] <Jucato> hm..
[03:50] <arienh4> i think it just installs much
[03:50] <jeisma> how do i get the necessary respositories enabled?
[03:51] <NeoSaki> Jucato: or he/she hasn't updated
[03:51] <Jucato> arienh4: yes. it installs almost everything :)
[03:51] <arienh4> by the way, how do you change the partitons?
[03:51] <NeoSaki> jeisma: try sudo apt-get update
[03:51] <NeoSaki> jeisma: then try sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:51] <Jucato> NeoSaki: if the repositories aren't enabled,  it makes no sense to update :)
[03:52] <NeoSaki> w00t down to the /driver/"s" compiling
[03:52] <Jucato> jeisma: launch Adept (from K Menu > System)
[03:52] <NeoSaki> Jucato: BUT if they were enabled, just hadn't updated the list, he wouldn't be able to install/find it
[03:53] <Jucato> NeoSaki: ah you mean updating AFTER enabling. that's different from just plain updating :)
[03:53] <arienh4> by the way, how do you change the partitons?
[03:53] <jeisma> it says its being referred to from another pakage? and has no installation candidate
[03:53] <okto> hi..does amarok (really) depends on libgtk2?
[03:53] <jeisma> ok i have adept open
[03:54] <Jucato> jeisma: in the Adept menu at the top, select "Manage Repositories"
[03:54] <NeoSaki> drivers/usb
[03:54] <jeisma> done
[03:54] <Jucato> make sure that the "main" repositories are enabled (except the one with dapper-backports, unless you want that, too)
[03:55] <okto> isnt libgtk for gnome? and amarok is a pure KDE app?
[03:55] <NeoSaki> meh, enable them all and let god sort it out ;)
[03:55] <NeoSaki> gtk isn't for anything
[03:55] <Jucato> NeoSaki: gtk is for GTK apps.
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, really?
[03:55] <NeoSaki> Jucato: I ment in specific for desktop
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !firefox
[03:55] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:56] <Tm_T> NeoSaki: well, amarok might need libgtk for ipod support etc
[03:56] <NeoSaki> it all depends on who programs it with what
[03:56] <NeoSaki> xD
[03:56] <okto> yes ...but does amarok depends on it? isnt amarok is a pure KDE app?
[03:56] <tony_> hello again . .
[03:56] <tony_> :)
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> thats not it...
[03:56] <Jucato> Tm_T speaketh, Jucato listeneth...
[03:56] <Tm_T> okto: yes
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> !info firefox
[03:56] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, to add extra repos...
[03:57] <Tm_T> okto: if I define "pure" same way that you do
[03:57] <tony_> ok.. need to remove my second ubuntu that i installed on same harddrive .. :) .. i have ubuntu desktop and server on single HD with two partition :)
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[03:57] <okto> Tm_T: but i do need libgtk to have amarok then?
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> jeisma, i think that link should help
[03:57] <jeisma> ok i enabled the ones that said main
[03:57] <Tm_T> okto: not amarok itself, but maybe for some functionality to amarok
[03:57] <jeisma> now what?
[03:58] <Tm_T> okto: what's exactly your point?
[03:58] <Jucato> jeisma: click on Apply (at the bottom) then Fetch Updates (at the top)
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> try it again
[03:59] <okto> Tm_T: ok..i guess you right about ipod..i just want to get rid of libgtk...but when uninstall it also remove amarok...:(
[03:59] <^rob^> hello
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, is the package mozilla-firefox?
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure
[03:59] <Tm_T> okto: yes, amarok uses gtkpod to ipod support
[03:59] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: no. just firefox
[03:59] <^rob^> what distro is kubuntu 6.06.1 - dapper or breezy ??
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i have to go to class
[03:59] <Tm_T> okto: and gtkpod needs libgtk
[03:59] <^rob^> i downloaded an iso - desktop.
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> ^rob^, dapper
[03:59] <^rob^> ty
[03:59] <NeoSaki> okto: why do you need to get rid of libgtk
[03:59] <jeisma> now what?
[04:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, that's what i thought, i have class now thanks
[04:00] <Jucato> jeisma: try looking for firefox and installing it
[04:00] <Jucato> in Adept
[04:00] <okto> Tm_T: to have "pure" kde..:)
[04:00] <man> hi
[04:00] <okto> NeoSaki:  to have "pure" kde..:)
[04:01] <NeoSaki> okto: there is no "pure" kde
[04:01] <tony_> how do i remove daul boot ?? ubuntu server / ubuntu desktop ???
[04:01] <Jucato> heh.. purist :)
[04:01] <man> my keyboar dont works in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????
[04:02] <NeoSaki> man: what type of keyboard?
[04:02] <man> my keyboar dont works in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????
[04:02] <Tm_T> okto: there's no such thing
[04:02] <Tm_T> okto: unless you have only kdecore
[04:02] <okto> Jucato: just try..:) i dont think you can in (k)ubuntu then..)
[04:02] <Jucato> okto: yes. better remove Ubuntu, because  it isn't pure KDE :P
[04:02] <jeisma> do i need o install all of those firefox stuff?
[04:03] <NeoSaki> jeisma: no
[04:03] <NeoSaki> jeisma: just firefox
[04:03] <Jucato> jeisma: just right-click on the one that says plain "firefox"
[04:03] <okto> Tm_T: the only kde app that got remove along with libgtk is only amarok, in my case
[04:03] <Jucato> okto: app-install-data is also a GNOME thing that Adept depends on, AFAIK
[04:03] <jeisma> i requested to install.. now what?
[04:04] <okto> Jucato: i dont have app-install-date anymore..also kubuntu-desktop
[04:04] <tony_> click on apply changes
[04:04] <Jucato> jeisma: now click on "Preview Changes" to double check that nothing will be rmoved, then on Apply Changes
[04:04] <okto> Jucato: adept gone too
[04:05] <Tm_T> okto: yes, but libgtk isn't only "non-kde" thing there
[04:05] <jeisma> can you rin AIM on kubuntu?
[04:05] <jeisma> run*
[04:05] <Jucato> okto: but seriously, I just don't get this "pure KDE" thing... Don't get me wrong, I love KDE extremely. I just don't get the reason why one would have to do that...
[04:05] <Jucato> oh well, different strokes for different brushes
[04:05] <Tm_T> jeisma: you have kopete
[04:05] <tony_> kopete is very cool
[04:05] <tony_> :)
[04:05] <jeisma> is that the smae thing as AIM?
[04:05] <tony_> yes
[04:06] <jeisma> you can talk to AIM?
[04:06] <tony_> allows you to connect to different protocol as well
[04:06] <Jucato> jeisma:Kopete is a multi-protocal IM client: Yahoo, MSN, AIM, Jabber
[04:06] <Tm_T> jeisma: well, you can use it for aim and msn and yahoo and jabber and...
[04:06] <jeisma> ah ok
[04:06] <Tm_T> tony_: it is
[04:06] <Tm_T> very
[04:06] <tony_> :|
[04:06] <tony_> cool
[04:06] <tony_> :P
[04:07] <okto> Jucato: no offence..just trying to...maybe next experiment i try to get pure GTK...now that would be easy..:)
[04:07] <tony_> ok , now to my big problme
[04:07] <tony_> :(
[04:07] <Jucato> okto: heh, that speaks a lot to me :P
[04:07] <frojnd> what's the command if u wanna check how much space do u have on your hd
[04:07] <tony_> need to remove ubuntu server from my system , back to single boot
[04:07] <Jucato> frojnd: df -h
[04:07] <frojnd> tnx
[04:07] <okto> Jucato: of course...;)
[04:07] <man> my keyboard doesnt work in my kubunto....does anybody knows ????
[04:08] <Jucato> okto: here' what you might want to try to get a pure KDE, or at least as pure as it can be in Kubuntu: server (minimal) install using the Alternate Install CD + x-window-system-core + kde-core
[04:08] <Jucato> or replace "kde-core" with "kde"
[04:09] <Jucato> s/here'/here's
[04:09] <ep> Is it safe to remove some of the older kernels showing up in Grub?
[04:10] <okto> Jucato: ok, i try that, i went from minimal, xorg and kubuntu-desktop...i then remove kubuntu-desktop and peel it off one by one but stuck with amarok since it needs libgtk
[04:10] <JohnFlux> is there a meta package to install gcc, automake etc
[04:11] <Jucato> okto: well, that's one way. but installing kde-core or kde would make you work from the ground up, adding packages rather than removing
[04:11] <Jucato> JohnFlux: build-essential
[04:11] <jeisma> is there a way to speed up startup?
[04:11] <flavioribeiro> when ive upgraded my pc, my keyboard stopped...anyone knows why?
[04:11] <Jucato> JohnFlux: but I don't think automake is included
[04:13] <okto> Jucato: hmm..do you think that would make any diffirence with amarok (and its ipod support)?
[04:13] <Jucato> okto: not really sure on that
[04:13] <jvff> Hello
[04:13] <JohnFlux> Jucato: thanks for the help
[04:13] <flavioribeiro> after the sudo apt-get upgrade, my pc doesnt detect keyboard anymore.. any1 know why?
[04:14] <okto> Jucato: Ok..thanks anyway
[04:14] <jvff> Does Kubuntu (for x86-64) have the kernel sources and dev tools?
[04:15] <erik_> hi all
[04:15] <Sanne> jvff: think so, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com for packages and architectures
[04:15] <jvff> ok
[04:15] <jvff> thanks
[04:16] <erik_> i got 1 simple question: how do i update the whole system? (like windows update)
[04:16] <ep>  I have both  kernels 2.6.15-26.47-k7 and 2.6.15-26.48-k7 installed.  This seems a little redundant to me. When I mark the ".47" one for removal in synaptic is shows up red highlighted instead of blue.  Am I screwing up?
[04:17] <erik_> and how do i get adept to see package from the internet, and not just local packages
[04:17] <Jucato> erik_: if there are updates available, you will receive a notification icon on your system tray
[04:17] <MenZa> erik_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:17] <MenZa> (for the first)
[04:17] <horizon> hey there
[04:17] <MenZa> hi'
[04:17] <horizon> may name is ufuk fromistanbul
[04:18] <jeisma> how come firefox failed to install the flash/real player plugins?
[04:18] <horizon> i would like to know if someone knows what happened to kubuntu dvd download links? all are gone!!
[04:18] <Jucato> jeisma: installing the flash/real player plugins using Firefox doesn't work like in Windows
[04:18] <jeisma> so how do i need to do it?
[04:18] <Jucato> !flash
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: using 32bit or 64bit?
[04:19] <horizon> anyone can answer me please?
[04:19] <horizon> i would like to know if someone knows what happened to kubuntu dvd download links? all are gone!!
[04:20] <Jucato> horizon: have you tried looking into other download mirrors/sites?
[04:20] <erik_> @jucato, bit weird that the kubuntu dvd hasnt got any updates right?
[04:20] <jeisma> no idea what i'm using, probably 32bit
[04:20] <horizon> yeah all the official web site on kubuntu
[04:20] <Jucato> erik_: I'm not sure about it. thought they got updated too
[04:20] <horizon> plus torrent links
[04:21] <horizon> all linked to kubuntu pages
[04:21] <horizon> for example
[04:21] <horizon> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release/
[04:21] <horizon> is gone
[04:21] <horizon> whick is uk mirror
[04:21] <horizon> also us
[04:21] <erik_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/dvd/
[04:21] <horizon> ireland torrents as well
[04:21] <erik_> but that are .torrent files
[04:22] <erik_> what is the big deal with the dvd btw?
[04:22] <Jucato> horizon: hold on
[04:22] <erik_> i didnt see any differneces
[04:22] <horizon> but the torrents are also linked to the same pages and doesnt work for 3 days
[04:22] <Jucato> erik_: more software available for installation offline
[04:23] <erik_> so kynaptic is on the dvd?
[04:23] <Jucato> erik_: probably.
[04:23] <jeisma> in kopete, i hid my menubar, how do i get it back?
[04:23] <horizon> i was downloading amd 64 bit dvd iso
[04:23] <Jucato> jeisma: Ctrl+M
[04:23] <horizon> and now it is interrupted at 2.5 gb
[04:24] <horizon> and not working for 3 days
[04:24] <horizon> any alternative links to download??
[04:24] <erik_> jucato do you know the apt-get line for kynaptic?
[04:24] <horizon> except these tree mirrors on page and torrent?
[04:25] <Jucato> erik_: sudo apt-get install kynaptic ?
[04:25] <Jucato> erik_: are you looking for kynaptic or kynaptics?
[04:25] <NeoSaki> anyone here have the current kubuntu kernel precompiled?
[04:25] <ep> Also in addition, to the k7 kernels, I have two 386 kernels installed.  Should I keep em around?  Can I even boot from them?  They show up in grub but I'm afraid to try it.
[04:25] <admin_> hey all, i've just install ubuntu, on kubuntu u can edit root only files but going "edit as root" but under ubuntu it doesnt have that option, does anyone know why?
[04:25] <NeoSaki> the current i386 kubuntu kernel
[04:26] <erik_> "E: Kon pakket kynaptic niet vinden" (couldnt find kynaptic)
[04:26] <TheGateKeeper> admin_: ubuntu uses sudo
[04:26] <admin_> TheGateKeeper: how do i go about that?
[04:27] <Jucato> admin_: Ubuntu doesn't have that right-click option
[04:27] <horizon> jucato, will I wait for more?
[04:27] <Jucato> horizon: currently asking around
[04:27] <jeisma> is there a way to speed up startup?
[04:27] <admin_> Jucato: how do i do it then mate?
[04:28] <jeisma> how much memory does kubuntu use?
[04:28] <horizon> ok
[04:28] <horizon> i am waiting for you
[04:28] <horizon> thanks
[04:28] <Jucato> admin_: you need to edit a config file? "gksudo gedit <filename>"
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> admin_: when you installed it you will have created a user & password so: sudo bash_command & when it asks you for a password use the one you set up for your user
[04:28] <horizon> jucato please send me pm when you got a response
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> !sudo > admin_
[04:29] <ep> Let me simplify the question.  Please answer. I'm selecting some of these old kernels for removal in adept.  Fixing to hit "Apply Changes".  Anything wrong with this?
[04:29] <horizon> main conversation windows is so crowded
[04:29] <horizon> ;)
[04:29] <Sanne> ep: it's always a good idea to have at least two kernels on the machine. They should work fine. The only problem I see is that if you have proprietary graphics drivers set up in your xorg.cong (nvidia, ati), you need to have them installed for all your kernels.
[04:29] <Jucato> horizon: try this link: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/
[04:29] <Jucato> horizon: scratch that
[04:29] <jeisma> what was that website for multimedia stuff jucato?
[04:29] <Jucato> horizon: wrong link
[04:29] <douglas> hello, my wifes .kde has something in it that makes the space bar not work. How do I fix it without loosing all her personal settings?
[04:29] <erik_> so is there a easy way to install the packages from the dvd?, rather then manualy searching....
[04:30] <okto> admin_: i think because edit as root is a kde service menu that is not available in Ubuntu (nautilus)
[04:30] <ep> Thanks for the info. I'll keep at least two.
[04:30] <admin_> another thing is that every time i press any del buttons or any of those buttons includeing the arrow keys it trys taking a screen dumb, is there a way to turn that off?
[04:30] <Jucato> !flash > jeisma
[04:32] <douglas> anyone have any ideas why the space bar is not working? It works fine with a new .kde??
[04:32] <horizon> i think it is ok but is it live cd?
[04:32] <Jucato> horizon: no not that link. I was wrong about that link
[04:32] <erik_> is there any way that i can update the list of packages in adept?
[04:32] <horizon> okay can you suggest me another one?
[04:33] <horizon> 6.06 or 6.10
[04:33] <Jucato> horizon: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/
[04:33] <NeoSaki> !kernel
[04:33] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:33] <Sanne> ep: if you want to boot from the other and you're not sure about the graphics drivers, set up yout xorg conf file to use a graphics driver that will likely work. Like nv if you have an nvidia card, or maybe vesa, should work most. Command to do that is: sudo dpkg-regonfigure xserver-xorg
[04:33] <Jucato> horizon: I gave you a link for 6.10, which is still in development... that second one is for 6.06.1 (latest)
[04:33] <jeisma> how do i install xemacs or similar compiling software?
[04:34] <horizon> ok now checking
[04:34] <Jucato> jeisma: just search for it in Adept and install it. if it's available in the repositories, it will show up
[04:34] <jeisma> so when i download something i want to install it will be in adept? or should be
[04:35] <Jucato> jeisma: if it's available from our repositories, you'll be able to find it and install it easily using Adept
[04:35] <erik_> oh great, adept wont start again :(
[04:36] <Jucato> erik_: what happened?
[04:36] <erik_> klicked, kde ==> programma's toevoegen en verwijderen (add and/or remove programs)
[04:36] <erik_> but works agian
[04:37] <admin_> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop taking screen dumps?
[04:37] <erik_> now it propted me fo the root password
[04:37] <horizon> jucato it seems the link is working thanks
[04:38] <horizon> i hope it doesnt interrupt
[04:38] <erik_> but i stil have the idea that adept shows all available packages :(
[04:38] <Jucato> horizon: glad it worked. good luck!
[04:38] <horizon> thank you indeed
[04:38] <Jucato> erik_: I don't understand what you mean...
[04:39] <admin_> root@admin-desktop:~# gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[04:39] <admin_> (gksudo:6680): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:39] <erik_> i open adept, select "any suite" on top of the screen, then click games, and there is no software listed
[04:39] <Jucato> admin_: don't login as root
[04:39] <admin_> Ok
[04:39] <admin_> cheers
[04:40] <Jucato> erik_: ah you are using Adept Installer. Adept (Adept Manager) is the more powerful version
[04:40] <Jucato> erik_: you might want to check the "unsupported" box to display stuff from universe
[04:40] <admin_> does anyone now how to stop screen dumps being taken whenever i hit any of the arrow keys?
[04:40] <Jucato> most games are in universe
[04:40] <erik_> ah great :D will check
[04:43] <erik_> so how long should a request install take?
[04:44] <Jucato> erik_: as long as you haven't clicked on Apply Changes... (I suggest click on Preview Changes first, to double check what will be installed)
[04:44] <jeisma> i downloaded xemacs from adept, how do irun it cause i don't see it in the kmenu
[04:45] <Jucato> jeisma: is xemacs a GUI app or one you run on the command line?
[04:45] <Samuli^> kmenu takes time to refresh from what I remember.
[04:45] <jegui> gui i thought
[04:45] <jeisma> gui i thought
[04:45] <jeisma> i mean, it is gui
[04:46] <Samuli^> you mean it HAS gui :)
[04:46] <Jucato> jeisma: if some GUI apps don't appear in the K Menu after installation, try typing this command in Konsole (ignore error messages): "kbuildsycoca --incremental" (without the quotes)
[04:46] <jeisma> obviously im not well-versed in this stuff.. ye ;)
[04:47] <erik_> right click, request install, click preview changes, but no firefox :(
[04:48] <Jucato> erik_: what do you mean "no firefox"?
[04:48] <deuce868> I'm trying to setup ssh-agent in kubuntu and I'm wondering where the best place to start up ssh-agent is?
[04:48] <deuce868> Should I setup something in a new .xsession file (none exists by default) or is there a better place to allow kde apps to use it?
[04:49] <jeisma> still can't run xemacs
[04:49] <jeisma> or i dont' see it at least
[04:49] <jeisma> oh nevermind
[04:49] <jeisma> im wrong i gess
[04:49] <erik_> i right clicked on firefox, and then request install
[04:49] <jeisma> cause i ran it from the command line?
[04:50] <jeisma> Jucato, thank you very much for helping me with everything.
[04:50] <i4get2> edgy is still edgy...lol
[04:50] <Jucato> erik_: did you click Apply Changes?
[04:51] <erik_> that button is still grey....
[04:52] <erik_> it might have something to do with the fact that i manualy tried to install it ffrom the dvd
[04:52] <i4get2> what button is grey ?
[04:52] <ErikTheRed> this might be a noobie question, but how do i make firefox my default web browser instead of konqueror
[04:52] <Jucato> erik_: you have the DVD inserted right now?
[04:53] <cox377_> Jucato: i was admin_ a minute ago asking about editing the xorg.conf as root under ubuntu
[04:53] <Jucato> ErikTheRed: System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications
[04:53] <coreymon77> hey guys
[04:53] <coreymon77> i have a question
[04:54] <Jucato> cox377_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:54] <erik_> yep dvd's in now
[04:54] <Jucato> cox377_: but not in root terminal
[04:54] <coreymon77> in order to get my internet working
[04:54] <ErikTheRed> thanks Jucato
[04:54] <Jucato> erik_: in Adept, go to Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[04:54] <coreymon77> every time i load kubuntu i have to tpye in
[04:54] <coreymon77> sudo iwconfig ra0 essid cohens key 1a1e28f24d
[04:55] <coreymon77> and then my root password
[04:55] <cox377_> well i editied the same as i did under kubuntu to force a rez and when it restarted it comes up with errors under the ubuntu about the rez, everything i try within the terminal keeps telling me my login is incorrect
[04:55] <NeoSaki> hey question, How do I get the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel build?
[04:55] <coreymon77> is there any ways to get that script to automatically run each time i boot kubuntu
[04:56] <erik_> yes im there
[04:56] <coreymon77> hello
[04:56] <coreymon77> ?
[04:56] <coreymon77> can anyone help me?
[04:56] <erik_> enable the deb lines?
[04:56] <cox377_> dont worry
[04:57] <coreymon77> anybody?
[04:57] <kuto> hi all, i installed ubuntu but it doesnt have apache webserver..is it possible to install one?
[04:58] <kuto> eer..kubuntu
[04:58] <coreymon77> can anyone help me out?
[04:59] <Sanne> coreymon77: maybe this helps you? http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html
[04:59] <erik_> okay, enabled all the deb lines, then switched back to package list, then click 'get updates'
[04:59] <erik_> and w000t
[04:59] <erik_> thats like a lot :D
[04:59] <kuto> anyone?
[05:00] <Jucato> erik_: hm.. that would install stuff from the internet
[05:00] <erik_> and it works :)
[05:00] <erik_> thnx a million :D
[05:00] <coreymon77> sanne: not really
[05:00] <Jucato> erik_: ah ok. I thought you wanted to install from the DVD
[05:00] <coreymon77> that doesnt tell me how to have konsole scripts run automatically\
[05:00] <erik_> dont care realy, got 4mb/s internet right now
[05:01] <jfro> anybody know how to get vim to be doing syntax coloring in ubuntu/kubuntu? has gui,common,ruby,python but doesn't colorize them
[05:03] <coreymon77> okay im gonna try something
[05:03] <kuto> hi all, i installed kubuntu but it doesnt have apache webserver..is it possible to install one?
[05:04] <jfro> yeah, you can install it with Adept or apt-get
[05:04] <Sanne> coreymon77: look at 'man init'
[05:04] <cox377_> is there a restore command for ubuntu, once it tells me the rezolution is wrong and i go to terminal before ubuntu i run the gksudo gedit xorg.conf and it tells it it cant open displays
[05:04] <coreymon77> yay!
[05:04] <coreymon77> i did it!
[05:05] <frojnd> I installed rtorrent but it didn't appear in Kmentu -> Internet
[05:05] <frojnd> even if I type: kbuildsycoca --incremental
[05:05] <frojnd> or should I install more packages for rtorrent
[05:07] <kuto> jfro: http://pastebin.ca/176266
[05:07] <kuto> what am i missing?
[05:07] <cox377_> is there a safe mode for ubuntu
[05:07] <frojnd> !rtorrent
[05:07] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (dapper), package size 152 kB, installed size 448 kB
[05:07] <fildo> grub offers a recovery mode
[05:07] <Samuli^> cox377_, you can choose that from grub or from the login screen.
[05:07] <erik_> can someone can recommend me a cool 2d platform game?
[05:08] <fildo> rtorrent ? like ktorrent azereus ?
[05:08] <frojnd> jap
[05:09] <zerofool2005|a> There any wma players on linux?
[05:09] <kuto> can anyone help me with apt-get? im new to kubuntu => http://pastebin.ca/176266
[05:09] <Sanne> coreymon77: sorry, I was afk, did you solve it?
[05:09] <kuto> i want to install apache on this pc
[05:09] <fildo> kuto: man apt-get
[05:09] <coreymon77> yup
[05:10] <fildo> !apache
[05:10] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[05:10] <Sanne> coreymon77: how? ;)
[05:11] <coreymon77> i remembered a tip that someone else told me a little while ago
[05:11] <coreymon77> i put a shell cript of the command in my autostart folder
[05:11] <coreymon77> it never worked before
[05:12] <coreymon77> but i realized that i should just put my root passwrod on the next line
[05:12] <coreymon77> since the command was sudo
[05:12] <NeoSaki> !shortcut
[05:12] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[05:12] <NeoSaki> !link
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <NeoSaki> !pseudolink
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pseudolink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <red_> how do i edit the grub menu
[05:13] <zorglu_> red_: "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:14] <Sanne> coreymon77: the 'official' way to do it system wide is to use the init system. You put a script in /etc/init.d and link to it in the runlevel specific place /etc/rc<n>.d, <n> being the runlevel. Details in 'man init'
[05:14] <Sanne> coreymon77: in case you're still interested :)
[05:14] <cannonball> zorglu_: really, you guys recommend kate over vi (or gvim) or nano or emacs?  I'm not criticizing, just curious why.
[05:14] <red_> that doesnt work
[05:15] <kuto> fildo: http://pastebin.ca/176274
[05:15] <Sanne> cannonball: matter of preference and stuff for religious wars ;)
[05:15] <kuto> it doesnt want to install apache2?
[05:16] <zorglu_> cannonball: well vi is *very* hard to use. emacs and nano are simpler but still require to know 'custom keys'. kate is much easier as it use a gui and the 'usual keys'
[05:16] <Tal> hello again guys and girls.
[05:16] <nonickname> i have an hd with about 5.5 million bad sectors, according to qtparted.. is this bad?
[05:16] <zorglu_> cannonball: here usual/custom are as in compared with window
[05:16] <Tal> another question for all you braniacs
[05:16] <Tal> I have Kubuntu on one HD, and Windoze Xp on another. Is there a simple way to dual boot the machine?
[05:17] <Tal> i have read up and i need something to do with Grub and Mbr
[05:17] <nonickname> !ntfs
[05:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:17] <nonickname> wrong one
[05:17] <Tal> but its a little confusing.
[05:17] <nonickname> !grub
[05:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:17] <coreymon77> sanne
[05:17] <Tal> are you both saying the same thing?
[05:17] <kuto> can anyone help me with this? =>  http://pastebin.ca/176274
[05:17] <coreymon77> im the only one who uses this computer
[05:18] <nonickname> he's automatedf
[05:18] <Sanne> coreymon77: yes?
[05:18] <Tal> oh, bot.
[05:18] <coreymon77> so i dont need it systemwide
[05:18] <Tal> gotcha
[05:18] <insparedes_> !es
[05:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:18] <nonickname> :P
[05:18] <Sanne> coreymon77: ah
[05:18] <Tal> :P
[05:18] <nonickname> search google for dual boot grub or something
[05:18] <Tal> hok
[05:18] <Sanne> coreymon77: I just don't know how to do it any other way ;) I thought you might want to know about it.
[05:19] <lwells> Anyone ever try to run Synergy?
[05:19] <nonickname> this hd has 300 million sectors and 5 million are bad o.o
[05:19] <host-one> hito all :)
[05:20] <vhogemann> !pt
[05:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:20] <host-one> hi to all :)
[05:20] <fildo> hi host-one
[05:20] <kuto> !repository
[05:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:20] <Tal> nonickname, due to the fact that im a n00b
[05:20] <Tal> i dont understand half of what is written
[05:20] <nonickname> ah
[05:20] <Tal> got a sweet link for me? which is aimed at complete n00bs
[05:21] <Tal> im using the console to a certain extent :) which is nice.
[05:21] <nonickname> lemme find something, basically you need to reinstall grub, then edit the grub config file to optionally load windows
[05:21] <Tal> only been on linux about a month
[05:21] <Tal> on what HD?
[05:21] <kuto> apt-get repositories doesnt work by default?
[05:21] <Tal> windoze or kubuntu?
[05:21] <host-one> Do you know a lite java editor for linux? i use eclipse but is too slowly
[05:21] <nonickname> uhm
[05:21] <fildo> the prim
[05:21] <fildo> primary hd
[05:21] <nonickname> ah
[05:21] <vhogemann> host-one, jedit?
[05:21] <Tal> fildo @ me?
[05:22] <fildo> i would assume so
[05:22] <Tal> and which one is the primary HD
[05:22] <Tal> they are noth set to master at the moment.
[05:22] <Tal> both*
[05:22] <nonickname> ?
[05:22] <fildo> how are they setup
[05:22] <nonickname> the primary master
[05:22] <kuto> apt-get repositories doesnt work by default?
[05:22] <nonickname> hda
[05:22] <Tal> completely separately
[05:22] <nonickname> ?
[05:22] <host-one> vhogemann: another?
[05:22] <Samuli^> kuto, cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[05:22] <Tal> as in i unplugged the winxp one
[05:22] <Tal> then set up linux on a separate HD
[05:23] <nonickname> ahh
[05:23] <Tal> when i want to switch, at the moment i unplug the IDE cables of one and plug the other in.
[05:23] <Tal> which is a PITA
[05:23] <Tal> i use linux for 95% of things
[05:23] <nonickname> so, make the windows one the primary slave, and have the linux one with grub on it optionally load windows?
[05:23] <kuto> Samuli^: Acquire::http::Proxy "false"; <= should i enable it??
[05:23] <Tal> even the online game i play is linux compatible
[05:24] <Tal> but sonic stage software dont work
[05:24] <Tal> primary slave?
[05:24] <Samuli^> kuto, make a backup and make the file empty
[05:24] <Tal> is that a jumper setting?
[05:24] <Tal> and what you just said is exactly what i want.
[05:24] <nonickname> yes, it can also depend on the cables
[05:24] <Tal> linux as the primary, but when i need XP
[05:24] <Tal> the option to load it
[05:24] <nonickname> ahh
[05:25] <nonickname> is your primary partition on hda?
[05:25] <Tal> err..
[05:25] <Tal> is there a quick way to check that.
[05:25] <nonickname> the linux one
[05:25] <nonickname> hmm
[05:25] <Tal> this HD (linux) only has linux on it
[05:25] <nonickname> i'm not sure myself
[05:25] <Tal> if that helps
[05:25] <Tal> it was formatted and clean instal
[05:26] <Tal> assume yes nonick
[05:26] <zorglu_> Tal: qparted will tell you which partition is primary of secondary
[05:26] <zorglu_> or you could guess by the device name :)
[05:26] <Tal> one sec
[05:26] <Tal> ok got it
[05:26] <Tal> hda1
[05:26] <kuto> Samuli^: done, but nothing happens when i tried updating => E: Couldn't find package apache2
[05:26] <zorglu_> so it is a primary
[05:26] <Tal> i checked storage media
[05:27] <Tal> and went to properties
[05:27] <Tal> :)
[05:27] <zorglu_> nice :)
[05:27] <Tal> the other one says hdb1
[05:27] <Samuli^> kuto, sudo apt-get update
[05:27] <Tal> so, whats the easiest way to get this done.
[05:27] <Samuli^> kuto, what does it put out?
[05:27] <nonickname> im pretty sure all you will have to do is edit the grub configuration
[05:27] <fildo> n0d
[05:27] <Tal> and how do i do that
[05:28] <fildo> in bash
[05:28] <nonickname> bash?
[05:28] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176292
[05:28] <fildo> sudo vi /etc/grub.conf
[05:28] <nonickname> i did it from livecd :P
[05:28] <zorglu_> mouaouaoua
[05:28] <fildo> ah
[05:28] <Tal> you mean konsole?
[05:28] <fildo> same stuff
[05:28] <Tal> as did i :P
[05:28] <zorglu_> fildo: and dont forget to say he has to learn vi first :)
[05:28] <Tal> ok.
[05:28] <Samuli^> kuto, you need to apt-get update first.
[05:28] <nonickname> nano = easier
[05:28] <Tal> trying sudo vi /etc/grub.conf
[05:28] <fildo> insert .
[05:29] <fildo> ctrl w
[05:29] <zorglu_> Tal: do you know the text editor vi ?
[05:29] <fildo> isnt it ? to save n exit ?
[05:29] <NeoSaki> whats the command to edit the xorgconfig in kubuntu
[05:29] <Tal> zor?
[05:29] <Samuli^> kuto, it'll download the package lists for apt.
[05:29] <Tal> Kate is the text editor?
[05:29] <fildo> i cbf using it .. joe is the primo editor
[05:29] <nonickname> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Configuration.html
[05:29] <Tal> not sure what vi means
[05:29] <Tal> or you mean 4?
[05:29] <nonickname> search that page for windows, should have the config
[05:29] <fildo> vi is a text editor
[05:29] <NeoSaki> or if someone knows how to get to fglrxconfig in kubuntu, it would be nice
[05:29] <fildo> !vi
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <nonickname> !vim
[05:30] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:30] <zorglu_> Tal: you may try "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[05:30] <fildo> thtas the one!
[05:30] <nonickname> :P
[05:30] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176306
[05:30] <Tal> do i need "
[05:30] <fildo> /echo $time
[05:30] <fildo> ah
[05:30] <zorglu_> Tal: "vi" is the name of a text editor which is quite old and known to be hard to learn :) but some people still like it
[05:30] <Tal> i have Kate
[05:30] <zorglu_> other dont :)
[05:31] <nonickname> what is vi good for?
[05:31] <Tal> ok so type this in konsole?
[05:31] <Tal> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:31] <Tal> ya?
[05:31] <nonickname> as opposed to easier text editors
[05:31] <fildo> editing conf files, in bash
[05:31] <fildo> making scripts
[05:31] <fildo> coding
[05:31] <Samuli^> kuto, odd it doesn't put out more than that, but try if you can install apache now.
[05:31] <nonickname> does it have syntax highlighting?
[05:31] <zorglu_> nonickname: you mean does it have any significant advantages ? i dont think so
[05:31] <fildo> no
[05:31] <Tal> ok menu is up in kate.
[05:31] <nonickname> zorglu_: ah
[05:31] <Samuli^> kuto, other than that you could check out what your /etc/apt/sources.list says.
[05:31] <Tal> now where am i heading?
[05:31] <zorglu_> nonickname: but is it much harder to use ? i do think so :)
[05:32] <nonickname> lol, as do i
[05:32] <nonickname> i've gotta go download sp2 and a firewall for windows, lol
[05:32] <Tal> this is all gibberish to me :P
[05:32] <nonickname> that's the only reason i'm in linux at the moment, to be honest
[05:32] <Tal> i have the menu.lst open.
[05:32] <fildo> use standard one
[05:32] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176310
[05:33] <fildo> n route with a nix firewall
[05:33] <harry> !paste
[05:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:33] <kuto> i did not install the server version...do i have to?
[05:33] <nonickname> wow lol
[05:33] <Sanne> Tal: if you haven't already, I recommend making a backup of menu.list
[05:33] <nonickname> microsoft.com gave konqueror a sigsev
[05:33] <Samuli^> kuto, probably you're sources.list isn't good then.
[05:33] <Tal> save as (another name?)
[05:33] <Samuli^> your
[05:33] <zorglu_> ok have fun guys
[05:33] <Tal> Samuli^
[05:33] <Sanne> Tal: why not, but remember to open the real one again.
[05:33] <kuto> Samuli^: can you give me the source links?
[05:33] <fildo> i need a smoke. brb
[05:33] <Tal> ok. good point.
[05:34] <MitchM> argh!
[05:34] <nonickname> lol fildo
[05:34] <MitchM> talk like a pirate day
[05:34] <nonickname> o.o
[05:34] <admin_> if i've install ubuntu, is it possible to install kde over the top of it to make it kubuntu?
[05:34] <MitchM> ye be a scurvey dog!
[05:34] <Sanne> admin_: yes, I think for the whole kubuntu experience it's the package kubuntu-desktop
[05:34] <fildo> admin_: yes
[05:35] <nonickname> lol
[05:35] <Samuli^> kuto, mine looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/176315
[05:35] <nonickname>  /nick mynickname
[05:35] <cannonball> MitchM: http://pics.mrball.net/main.php?g2_itemId=303   :-D
[05:35] <admin_> Sanne: cheers, i shall instal that now..
[05:35] <kuto> Samuli^: http://pastebin.ca/176316 <= my source.list..nothing is enabled by default??
[05:35] <fildo> its a gig install
[05:35] <fildo> :D
[05:35] <Sanne> admin_: you're welcome
[05:35] <fildo> or 500meg
[05:35] <nonickname> admin_: you're gonna have the ubuntu stuff still, if i have been hearing complaints correctly
[05:36] <Tal> ok Samuli^ i am in the new one.
[05:36] <Tal> err old one.
[05:36] <admin_> fildo: lol...
[05:36] <Samuli^> kuto, like it says there.. line commented out by installer because it couldn't verify.
[05:36] <admin_> nonickname: Hmmm is it not recommended thne?
[05:36] <Tal> any idea what i need to change to enable XP to boot if i choose?
[05:36] <fildo> yeh it is
[05:36] <harry> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats
[05:36] <Samuli^> kuto, you didn't configure your network before install, did you? :)
[05:36] <fildo> ive done in .
[05:36] <nonickname> admin_: just the ubuntu stuff will still take up space
[05:36] <Samuli^> kuto, just un-comment the lines.
[05:36] <admin_> nonickname: i get yah
[05:36] <fildo> kubuntu ?  it just kdm
[05:37] <harry> im using kubuntu 5.10
[05:37] <admin_> nonickname: it's only a 9gb drive so i'm wondering now...
[05:37] <Samuli^> Tal, what? old, new?
[05:37] <NeoSaki> pray that i dont die
[05:37] <kuto> Samuli^: i did, except for repositories..
[05:37] <Tal> ignore that bit, i am in menu.lst
[05:37] <Tal> what do i need to change?
[05:38] <Tal> (i backed up)
[05:38] <Samuli^> tal, did I talk to you last night?
[05:38] <Tal> lol no i thought you were reading earlier.
[05:38] <fildo> Tal: get into habbit of backing up files u edit
[05:38] <Tal> i assume you wernt :P
[05:38] <fildo> otherwise end up in serious mischief
[05:38] <Tal> indeed :P
[05:38] <Tal> fildo  knows the problem i have
[05:38] <Tal> any idea what i need to add in there dude
[05:39] <fildo> 2 x hdd
[05:39] <Tal> where abouts
[05:39] <fildo> needs to add grub to dual boot
[05:39] <lwells> does linux come with XTest?
[05:39] <Flarp> is anyone running kubuntu live cd from an iso image with vmplayer?
[05:39] <fildo> !xtest
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xtest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Flarp> !vmplayer
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <Samuli^> tal, you'd probably need something like title microsoft, bla bla.. root (your partition) makedefault saveactive chainloader +1 :)
[05:40] <harry> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24000       hey hi everybody, can someone help me with this??  i was trying to install the restricted formats
[05:40] <Samuli^> tal, is windows on the first HD?
[05:40] <fildo> !seen flaccid
[05:40] <harry> im using kubuntu 5.10
[05:40] <ubotu> I last saw flaccid<EMAIL_ADDRESS>3h 20m 34s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[05:40] <Tal> its on hdb1
[05:40] <Tal> kubuntu is hda1
[05:40] <Samuli^> tal, ok, so you need mapping as well then..
[05:40] <coreymon77> !seen tal
[05:40] <ubotu> Tal is on IRC right now!
[05:40] <Tal> !
[05:40] <coreymon77> just joking
[05:41] <Tal> ORLY!?
[05:41] <Sanne> Samuli^, Tal: there's an example for a windows boot entry under "examples", in case you didn't notice.
[05:41] <Tal> *coughs* ok mapping. that sounds super hard!
[05:41] <Tal> oo really?
[05:42] <Tal> ah i see it
[05:42] <Tal> obviously i remove the # # #
[05:42] <Tal> but does it matter where it is?
[05:42] <octan> aye September 19th is International Talk Like A Pirate Day http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
[05:42] <Sanne> Tal: I don't really know what you need to put in, but I thought I point it out, another person please help with the details :)
[05:42] <octan> harr harr harr
[05:42] <Tal> can i add it to the bottom of the list.
[05:42] <Samuli^> Tal, you could try this: http://pastebin.ca/176329
[05:42] <Samuli^> yeah, just add it to the bottom of the file.
[05:42] <Tal> kk
[05:43] <Tal> ok ill paste what you wrote.
[05:43] <Tal> when i save it i restart and see what happens correcto?
[05:43] <fildo> pirates are old school n over rated. please dont spam
[05:43] <Tal> Ninja > Pirates
[05:43] <Tal> nuff said.
[05:43] <admin_> I'm glad linux servers are always fast
[05:43] <admin_> 408mb
[05:44] <fildo> cause they dont chew resources like a M$ shit machine
[05:44] <Samuli^> tal, yes. You could and different ones with a little different options and see which one works. Or just use the grub edit while in the grub if it doesn't load to modify things.
[05:44] <Tal> ok well i added it..
[05:44] <Tal> ill restart now and see if it blows up.
[05:44] <Sanne> Tal: you may also increase the timeout
[05:44] <Tal> ..
[05:44] <Tal> explain?
[05:44] <Sanne> Tal: so you have more time choosing
[05:44] <admin_> fildo: sorry, i mean the bandwidth when getting stuff off the net, like downloading the kubuntu-desktop.. always full speed
[05:44] <Sanne> Tal: moment
[05:45] <Tal> k
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: there's a timeout setting at the beginning of the file, I found it too short.
[05:45] <fildo> admin_: 408mb.. i knew it was around that,
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: search for "timeout", you should find it.
[05:45] <Tal> ah yes
[05:45] <Tal> 3 seconds
[05:45] <Tal> damn!
[05:45] <admin_> fildo: just hope it doesnt take up too much room
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: see? :)
[05:45] <Tal> 20secs more like it
[05:45] <Sanne> Tal: exactly what I have hehe
[05:45] <fildo> shouldnt ..
[05:46] <Tal> great
[05:46] <Tal> ok let me restart
[05:46] <Sanne> Tal: good luck
[05:46] <Tal> if you hear a bang
[05:46] <fildo> goodluck
[05:46] <Tal> that will be me
[05:46] <Tal> brb
[05:46] <Sanne> hehe
[05:46] <fildo> lol
[05:46] <fildo> n00bz
[05:46] <octan> you noobi
[05:47] <fildo> nup
[05:47] <Sanne> admin_: another option would have been to get the alternate kubuntu cd which can serve as a repository
[05:53] <supernova_> hello
[05:54] <Sanne> hi supernova_
[05:54] <Buffy^^> well ssh is lovely
[05:55] <Buffy^^> and I have hlds up and running like a charm :D
[05:56] <supernova_> my Ktorrent is closing automatically after some time. what can be the problem?
[05:56] <fildo> nice work
[05:57] <fildo> mine always stall :p
[05:57] <fildo> so i drifted to use azereus . or opera
[05:57] <supernova_> Does the torrent automatically start in opera?
[05:58] <fildo> yep . u save it
[05:58] <fildo> n it moves to tranfer tab
[05:58] <supernova_> ok i'll try opera. But is it possible to fix ktorrent?
[05:59] <fildo> yerp. reinstall
[05:59] <supernova_> thnx fildo...letme shift to opera for now.
[06:00] <fildo> npz
[06:06] <lsproc> I have my OE email boxes, they are index.dbx, googlemail.dbx etc. I want to import these into KMail. Shall I copy the entire mail store?
[06:07] <kuto> how do you start apache2 services..
[06:07] <usuario_> service httpd start
[06:08] <fildo> kuto: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[06:08] <larson9999> what's in these patches?  i've never used the ff ubuntu packages and want to know what i'm missing:  here in ubuntu, we have slightly custom builds of firefox, with our own special patches, so unfortunanty using the normal firefox updater would install the "offical" build without all of our patches.
[06:08] <fildo> kuto: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:09] <kuto> fildo: i installed it using apt-get but i cant see the script in my /etc/init.d
[06:09] <kristina> i have problems with cvscedega. when i type in cvscedega he says that he dont know
[06:09] <fildo> httpd.conf
[06:09] <Sanne> kuto: there's also a nice graphical frontend for starting things like apache: System Settings -> System Administration -> System Services
[06:10] <fildo> affirmatus
[06:10] <kuto> http://pastebin.ca/176361
[06:12] <kristina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24003
[06:12] <kuto> Conf libdbi-perl (1.50-1 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper) <= does this thing means "Conflicting"?
[06:13] <creedence> hi guys
[06:13] <fildo> hi creedence
[06:13] <fildo> that or newer ver
[06:13] <creedence> it's lunch time... I am at work
[06:13] <creedence> I hate mIRC
[06:13] <creedence> :(
[06:14] <fildo> nice, why u use it for then
[06:14] <fildo> BitchX. .. non cli
[06:14] <fildo> is the shiznit
[06:14] <creedence> windows version?
[06:14] <creedence> No K here ...
[06:14] <fildo> pfft
[06:14] <fildo> dont insult me
[06:14] <creedence> hehe
[06:14] <creedence> I am hurtin'
[06:14] <Jucato> XChat runs on Windows
[06:15] <Buffy^> nnscript works better for windows
[06:15] <Jucato> it's also runs on Linux
[06:15] <xst> How do I configure konqueror to simply delete files when I select "delete" instead of moving them to trash?
[06:15] <fildo> sure ? ;p
[06:15] <Buffy^> delete the trash can
[06:15] <Jucato> xst: just press shift+delete
[06:15] <Buffy^> :P
[06:15] <creedence> xst - use shift then click delete
[06:15] <Sanne> xst: configure the keyboard shortcuts
[06:15] <Jucato> wow, so many answers lol
[06:16] <Buffy^> I cant belive I manage to get hlds up and running was a pint in the ass
[06:16] <MetaMorfoziS> k3b said the coding of some file names are invalid, and k3b unable to write it to dvd. So what proggram cvan rename all file in subdirs and subdirssubdirs...
[06:16] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[06:16] <xst> Thanks
[06:16] <kuto> fildo: can you check this please, why apache2 did not installed? => http://pastebin.ca/176361
[06:16] <Buffy^> paine*
[06:16] <Sanne> xst: settings/configure shortcuts, then you could switch the hotkeys for delete and move to trash, if you want (I did)
[06:16] <fildo> gimme a sec mate. just fixing own box
[06:18] <Sanne> kristina: the jack error shouldn't matter. It's for sound output, I have the same error in my wine. I just set the sound output to alsa. But I don't have cedega, so I don't know if that really applies.
[06:20] <dmd> Hi!
[06:20] <kuto> seems like konversation chat doesnt have another tab feature?
[06:21] <dmd> Why is it that configure doesn't find my version.h when I have installed all the kernel source/headers packages for my kernel version?
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> kuto: ! you have old konversation
[06:21] <lwells> How can I find out if my computer is connected to another on the network??
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> http://konversation.kde.org upgrade it, and try tree view
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i think it is the best view
[06:22] <^rob^> hi
[06:22] <^rob^> i'm having problems wiht nvidia on kubuntu dapper
[06:22] <kuto> MetaMorfoziS: can i upgrade konversation using apt-get?
[06:22] <MetaMorfoziS> kuto just read that page.
[06:22] <dmd> I need to re-compile alsa but I can't because it says 'The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist'
[06:22] <dmd> but it does
[06:22] <MetaMorfoziS> (you able to compile from source, or add a repo to your sources.list and apt-get upgrade)
[06:22] <^rob^> x say that can;t find nvidia
[06:23] <Jucato> kuto: the new konversation (v 1.0) should have been in dapper-backports a few weeks ago, but due to some technical difficulties, it's still not there
[06:24] <Conhe> !wine
[06:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:25] <dmd> Is there a 'Ubuntu guide to re-compiling kernel dependant code' anywhere?
[06:25] <dmd> i.e re-compiling ALSA, NVIDIA driver etc.
[06:25] <kuto> ok i found it, i'll upgrade later after i download apache
[06:25] <kuto> tnx guys
[06:26] <^rob^> nvidia help?
[06:26] <dmd> rob: nope, my gfx is ok
[06:26] <dmd> I need to patch alsa
[06:27] <dmd> but I can't because I there doesn't seem to be a version.h with the ubuntu kernel source archive
[06:28] <dmd> package, even
[06:28] <dmd> :)
[06:28] <dmd> I think I've installed all the kernel source/ headers packages I needed
[06:28] <Sanne> dmd: you would at least need the headers for your kernel, shoulde be something like: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:29] <^rob^> mp3 ?
[06:29] <Sanne> dmd: oh
[06:29] <^rob^> what do i need to make amarok play mp3?
[06:30] <Jucato> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Tal> well
[06:30] <Tal> it worked.
[06:30] <Tal> :)
[06:30] <lcohen> good morning all, quick question about wine...the program installs and runs ok if I do a sudo wine program.exe but how can I create a shortcut so I can run it under my user from kde?
[06:30] <Tal> WinXP doesnt like the other hardrive though
[06:31] <Tal> everytime i log in i have to go to device manager and uninstal it ;P
[06:31] <Tal> still, it works so meh.
[06:31] <usuarioJJ> lcohen:You have to put the link like this:
[06:32] <zerofool2005> whats the deafult root pass for kubuntu?
[06:32] <ketsugi> same as your user pass
[06:32] <Tal> the one for you user pass
[06:32] <lcohen> usuariojj:  I didn't see the link
[06:32] <fildo> hey how can i stop apt-get looking for setiathome-3.08.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar all the time
[06:32] <usuarioJJ> kubuntu does not have default ROOT pass! It is blank!
[06:33] <usuarioJJ> "/usr/bin/wine /path///yourapp.exe"
[06:33] <zerofool2005> "Login Failed"
[06:34] <lcohen> with three "///"?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> direct logging in as root is disabled.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> use 'sudo' and your first created users password
[06:34] <Sanne> Tal: hey, good to hear it worked
[06:34] <Tal> :)
[06:35] <Tal> i keep getting a found new hardware loop though
[06:35] <Tal> its really really annoying
[06:35] <Tal> its trying to install the other Hardrive (in this case the linux HD)
[06:35] <usuarioJJ> nooo i put that in case you have subdir on your path, like this:"/subdir1/subdir2/subdir3/yourapp.exe"
[06:35] <Tal> it says cant instal but then continues to keep trying
[06:36] <Sanne> Tal: heh, just like windows ;)
[06:36] <lcohen> thanks usu, the only issue is I can only seem to get it working if I run it as root
[06:36] <Tal> yep
[06:36] <dmd> Before I install a new alsa driver, do I need to rid of the old one somehow?
[06:36] <Tal> stupid POS
[06:36] <Tal> if companies could get their act together and realease the code for direct X etc
[06:37] <Tal> win would be reduntant for me
[06:37] <usuarioJJ> well... The, you have to use sudo managers, like su, kdesu, and gksu before invoking Wine
[06:37] <Sanne> Tal: what drives are this? ide, sata, scsi?
[06:37] <Tal> ide
[06:37] <Tal> oo i got a nice easy question as well.
[06:37] <Sanne> Tal: funny windows can't install it. But maybe it shouldn't anyway, since it's for your linux?
[06:37] <Sanne> ok
[06:37] <Tal> when i click a link in IRC
[06:37] <lcohen> i figred as much, i just coouldn't figure out how to do it with a desktop link
[06:38] <Tal> it opens with Konqueror which is a POS
[06:38] <Tal> how do i get it to open in default firefox
[06:38] <Sanne> Tal: maybe youcan configure it in your irc client? I use xchat, it has such an option.
[06:38] <Tal> im using Konversation
[06:39] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: System Settings --> KDE applications
[06:39] <Sanne> Tal: sorry, can't help with that one then.
[06:39] <TheGateKeeper> Tal look in there & set your default browser
[06:39] <usuarioJJ> try first with run... box to see if it works, Or, you can try it in a terminal. As i said, the call first invokes the su, and when you insert the right pass, it continues.
[06:39] <Tal> system settings?
[06:39] <Tal> i have system and utilities.
[06:40] <Sanne> TheGateKeeper: ah, nice one :)
[06:40] <usuarioJJ> Tal: System
[06:40] <Tal> whats the program. havent got kde application
[06:40] <supernix>  /uptime
[06:40] <supernix> Uptime: 20 days, 10 hours and 12 minutes
[06:40] <Sanne> Tal: Menu, System Settings, Kde Components, Default Applications
[06:40] <zorglu_> Tal: kde components
[06:40] <zorglu_> as Sanne said :)
[06:40] <Sanne> :)
[06:41] <Tal> ah sorry being dumb
[06:41] <Tal> one moment
[06:41] <TheGateKeeper> Sanne: explained better than me :-)
[06:41] <Sanne> TheGateKeeper: ah, naah, didn't even knew that one before you mentioned it :)
[06:42] <Tal> ha
[06:42] <Tal> sweet guys
[06:42] <Tal> :)
[06:42] <Tal> that was really bugging me
[06:42] <Sanne> :)
[06:42] <Tal> its silly stuff like that that bothers you huh
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> that's why I found it, it was driving me nuts :-)
[06:42] <Tal> lol
[06:43] <Sanne> Tal: in Kde there are so many settings and options, and hidden settings and options, I'm finding new ones almost every day :)
[06:43] <Tal> :P
[06:43] <Tal> its the only one i ever used.
[06:43] <Tal> not tryed gnome.
[06:43] <Tal> tried*
[06:43] <Tal> anyone had problems with flash player here?
[06:43] <lcohen> I think I figured it out, stupod /home/user/.wine permissions :)
[06:43] <lcohen> thanks!
[06:43] <Tal> i installed the normal one flash-nonfree or something like that.
[06:43] <Tal> and most things worked.
[06:43] <ant_knee> hello ppl, I have a few issues with Kde-Wallet? the app that won't die
[06:43] <Sanne> Tal: Gnome is supposed to be simpler, but on the other hand you can't configure so much (I think). So to each his/her own, nice to have choice :)
[06:44] <usuarioJJ> You're welcome! Tell me which version of Wine Are You running?
[06:44] <Tal> but there were some things that just wouldnt work. So instead of the nonfree one i tried the ACTUAL adobe one.
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: if the site is using flash 8 or 9 it won't work, we still have to wait for that
[06:44] <Tal> Ah that will be why
[06:44] <Tal> you know there IS a workaround :)
[06:44] <Tal> perhaps i can help you.
[06:44] <Tal> it works to a certain extent anyways.
[06:45] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: which is?
[06:45] <Tal> try this
[06:45] <Tal> kate ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[06:45] <Tal> then change
[06:45] <Tal> Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68:$
[06:45] <Tal> to
[06:45] <Tal> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r68:$
[06:45] <Tal> it works to a certain extent, but i found it a little buggy.
[06:46] <ant_knee> useful flash tip, thanks
[06:46] <Tal> :)
[06:46] <Tal> if you try it before you change it you will see what i mean.
[06:46] <Tal> try this link
[06:46] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: cool, the other way I have herd is to install a browser into wine then install flash etc
[06:47] <Tal> http://tenaciousdmovie.com/
[06:47] <Tal> that wont work at all
[06:47] <Tal> but change it to 9 it does,
[06:47] <Tal> but
[06:47] <Tal> i have some problems with the buttons and missing animations so *shrugs*
[06:47] <Sanne> Tal: well, youstill have a version 7 flash player, so ...
[06:48] <Tal> heh yeah
[06:48] <^rob^> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:48] <^rob^> aa
[06:48] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:48] <Tal> but it is a little work around so it helps a bit
[06:48] <Sanne> Tal: but interesting tip anyways, so thanks :)
[06:48] <zerofool2005> Setting custom ip to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:48] <zerofool2005> custom_ip_resolved = <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:48] <zerofool2005> <3
[06:48] <Tal> :)
[06:48] <^rob^> damn
[06:48] <^rob^> i can't find libxine-extracodecs - where is it? i have universe and multiverse enabled
[06:49] <Sanne> Tal: some people even run a win32 firefox in wine with the latest flash player. I'm not that desperate, though ;)
[06:49] <Tal> indeed.
[06:49] <Tal> i havent even tried wine
[06:49] <Tal> as i said. the online game i play works in linux
[06:49] <Tal> so its sweet
[06:49] <Tal> but the new one wont.. :(
[06:49] <Sanne> ^rob^: try to look at packages.ubuntu.com, it tells you the exact package name and the repository you need enebled.
[06:50] <Sanne> someday I will even learn to type...
[06:50] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:50] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> ^rob^: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28xine-ui.29
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> Tal: thanx for the flash tip, I have made a note :-)
[06:53] <Tal> *smiles* np. you guys have helped me out loads over the past month
[06:53] <Tal> nice to actually have at least a semi useful tip
[06:54] <beermunk> hey all
[06:54] <beermunk> how are we today?
[06:54] <Tal> happy now, yourself?
[06:55] <Sanne> beermunk: well, nice weather, fresh air, and holiday... so we are quite fine, today ;)
[06:56] <Tal> ok with that im off. thanks again for all the help!
[06:56] <Sanne> bye Tal
[06:58] <gpettit> I have a question regarding mkinitramfs.  Anyone up for it?
[06:58] <ant_knee> hi there, can someone give me some advice about howto get rid of kde-wallet or disable it - I have apt-get removed it but it will not stop popping up
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> ant_knee,  it has settings you can set.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> to disable what you dont like about it.
[06:59] <ant_knee> where to config?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> try its menus on the systemtray icon
[06:59] <gof_> oo
[06:59] <gof_> ciao a tutti
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> or run kwallet
[06:59] <Sanne> ant_knee: menu, Security & Privacy
[06:59] <Dr_Willis>  kwalletmanager
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:59] <gof_> ciao a tutti
[07:00] <gof_> ou ce qualcuno?!!!????
[07:00] <ant_knee> i ve only a blank page in Security & privacy
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> right click --> configure kwallet.  Im running ubuntu and using grub and i installed windows on another partition and now i have to make grub the booatloader again. I can also add that i have chrooted into my kubuntu partition and i can use grub but how
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> update-grub
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> should work.
[07:04] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:04] <zerofool2005> kopete owns :D
[07:04] <arcasa> Kopete isn't working for me!
[07:04] <ubuntu> ill try that
[07:04] <arcasa> It won't stop connecting.
[07:06] <zerofool2005> spell check on msn :D
[07:06] <zerofool2005> what most people need to use
[07:06] <zerofool2005> MMM food
[07:07] <NthDegree> anyone know if there's a memory leak problem in KDE specific to edgy?
[07:08] <NthDegree> I was left with 10MB ram free out fo my 1GB last night :|
[07:08] <NthDegree> out of*
[07:08] <|lostbyte|> hi !
[07:08] <binaryflow> Upgraded from 386 to 686 kernel yesterday for dual core - now my wireless card won't work
[07:08] <binaryflow> Going back to 386 kernel still won't work.
[07:08] <Sanne> NthDegree: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1, as those people are running edgy
[07:08] <binaryflow> any ideas?
[07:08] <|lostbyte|> anyway to netinstall with out a floopy drive ?
[07:08] <|lostbyte|> :(
[07:09] <Dodger> interesting problem here... i'm behind a non-transparent squid proxy, and adept is unable to download anything when i run it via kdesu - works fine if i run it from the terminal via sudo though. any ideas?
[07:09] <NthDegree> good point Sanne, although I kinda wish they had a #kubuntu+1 too :p
[07:09] <NthDegree> Dodger, KDE proxy settings perhaps :|
[07:10] <Sanne> NthDegree: yeah, I just looked if there's such a channel heh :)
[07:10] <NthDegree> maybe you've set up the bits for the terminal and non-KDE bits
[07:10] <Dodger> NthDegree:  i've tried setting them manually and even via an automatic configuration script - doesn't seem to have any effect
[07:10] <zorglu_> !info amarok
[07:10] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[07:11] <dhq> i used kontact mail client  and got all my mails  in my pc but it cleared all my mail on the internet now all the mail is in my pc only nothing on the internet how do i get it back
[07:12] <NthDegree> dhq, it's meat to do that
[07:13] <NthDegree> if you didn't want that then you should have selected "keep messages on server"
[07:13] <dhq> NthDegree: how do it get all the mails back on the net
[07:13] <NthDegree> you can't
[07:13] <amarokker> Hi, i am being asked to install libvisual4.0- but its not installable according to synaptic
[07:14] <NthDegree> you should have used IMAP instead of POP3 if you wanted them to stay on the net and NEVER touch the PC itself
[07:14] <binaryflow> Has anyone seen a wireless card stop working after a kernel upgrade?
[07:14] <amarokker> how do i get around this prob?
[07:14] <binaryflow> Internal Intel card on a Dell Latitude D620 laptop
[07:14] <Sanne> amarokker: what's the error message? please paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:14] <dhq> NthDegree: my mail is on a linux server so there must be a way to upload all back
[07:14] <binaryflow> Worked great until moving to 686 kernel
[07:14] <NthDegree> amarokker, try this: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:14] <NthDegree> usually solves those kinds of things
[07:14] <amarokker> ok. am trying. wait a bit- if it doesnt work, i'll paste the error back on.
[07:15] <dhq> binaryflow: i am on a dell latitude d505 i upgraded my kernel and my wifi is proper
[07:15] <lordhelmet> so here's a fun quirk: when i boot, both my cpu's are using the ondemand governor, but upon logging into to kde it switches cpu0 to the performance governor
[07:15] <NthDegree> lmao dhq, you used POP3, you set it up to delete the mail off the server when it gets to your PC
[07:15] <binaryflow> so why would mine stop working?
[07:15] <binaryflow> Going back to the old kernel still won't work.
[07:15] <NthDegree> just select to keep email on the server and wait for the next batch of email
[07:15] <NthDegree> that's all you can do lol
[07:16] <lordhelmet> can anybody think of why this would happen?
[07:16] <dhq> NthDegree: but all the mails are on my pc
[07:16] <Sanne> amarokker: 0.4 seems to be in edgy and dapper-backports. In dapper there's version 0.2
[07:16] <|lostbyte|> !netinstall
[07:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:17] <NthDegree> dhq, I know that
[07:17] <amarokker>   amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[07:17] <NthDegree> dhq, You downloaded the mail to your PC, then erased it from the server
[07:17] <Sanne> amarokker: 0.4 seems to be in edgy and dapper-backports. In dapper there's version 0.2
[07:17] <ant_knee> sorry - distracted there - thanks I disabled kdwallet but I can't seem get smb4k top save default password which is what I really want to do
[07:17] <NthDegree> that is how standard POP3 works
[07:17] <amarokker> yeah, Sanne- so is there a repo that'd work with dapper/?
[07:17] <Sanne> amarokker: firstly, what are you trying to install?
[07:17] <amarokker> amarok.
[07:17] <dhq> NthDegree: i am screwed :(
[07:18] <NthDegree> why dhq?
[07:18] <Sanne> amarokker: I suspect a version not in the official dapper repos?
[07:18] <zerofool2005> !mp3
[07:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:18] <dhq> i need all the mails on myserver but now all in my pc
[07:18] <amarokker> and thats the msg i get when i try it- using apt-get -f install doesnt work- according to --fix-missing there's nothing wrong. yeah...got the source list from source-o-matic-
[07:18] <dhq> NthDegree: i need all the mails on myserver but now all in my pc
[07:18] <NthDegree> dhq, just choose to keep mail on the server so you know for next time
[07:18] <amarokker> lemme remove the line for the cipherfunk repos and cehck back
[07:18] <NthDegree> then they'll stay on the server
[07:19] <|lostbyte|> :)
[07:19] <NthDegree> dhq, you should have read up on e-mail clients if you didn't know what they did :|
[07:19] <dhq> NthDegree: where is that option i dont see it
[07:19] <Sanne> amarokker: then it can be that there are dependencies not covered with the official repos. I'd like to show you how you can find out if there's a version you can install from a repos. Ok?
[07:19] <NthDegree> 1 second
[07:19] <amarokker> Sanne: yeah. sure. thanks.
[07:20] <ant_knee> any body fancy helping with this kde-wallet/smb4k issue
[07:20] <lordhelmet> anybody? kde login sets cpu0 governor to performance? it will be fun!
[07:20] <NthDegree> dhq, the option is called "Leave fetched messages on server"
[07:20] <Sanne> amarokker: go to packages.ubuntu.com, type libvisual in the search box, set distribution dropdown to "any", and search.
[07:21] <NthDegree> dhq, "Leave fetched messages on server" is on your receiving e-mail settings
[07:21] <Sanne> amarokker: tell me when ready
[07:21] <|lostbyte|> NthDegree, so they will be marked as unread even after download ?
[07:22] <amarokker> sanne- got the results page you were right- it is in dapper backports
[07:22] <dhq> NthDegree: i dont see it
[07:22] <|lostbyte|> dhq, look throught the server options of that client.
[07:22] <Sanne> amarokker: exactly. So, now you need to enable dapper-backports. I can paste the line I have in my sources.list, if you want.
[07:23] <amarokker> Yeah, please. That'd be helpful.
[07:23] <instructor> Ahh I love pretty fonts
[07:23] <instructor> Anyone else have a kopete update?
[07:23] <NthDegree> |lostbyte| no it copies the email when you do that
[07:23] <Sanne> amarokker: there you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24012
[07:23] <NthDegree> |lostbyte| so you have 1 copy on server and 1 on the PC
[07:23] <rafael> wine!
[07:24] <amarokker> Thanks a lot sane- will let you know if it works :D
[07:24] <Conhe> wine!
[07:24] <Conhe> !wine
[07:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:24] <|lostbyte|> NthDegree, intresting..
[07:24] <dhq> |lostbyte|: cant see it
[07:24] <ronnylinux> hi guys how can i install a webcam
[07:25] <Sanne> amarokker: I would keep not what you installed from backports... in case you get problems when upgrading to edgy some day, so you could uninstall them if needed.
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !webcam
[07:25] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:27] <dhq> NthDegree: cant see it
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> "leave fetched messages on server"
[07:27] <dhq> |lostbyte|: where is it
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> under receiving tab.
[07:28] <dhq> |lostbyte|: there is no receving tab in kontact i guess
[07:28] <|lostbyte|> huh ? kontact :S
[07:29] <|lostbyte|> dhq, --------------> kmail
[07:30] <dhq> |lostbyte|: same .........
[07:30] <ubuntu> Hey! I have ubuntu and grub installed but when i reinstalled windows it overrided grub. I have now botted with a live cd and i have chrooted to my ubuntuinstall and i have tried update-grub but no luck when i reboot the grub window doesnt appear instead windows boots... any ideas
[07:31] <Sanne> ubuntu: this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:32] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:32] <Sanne> ubuntu: you're welcome
[07:33] <ronnylinux> does anybody can help me?, i want to install my webcam, it is deluxe, i don't know how to do it, because i have the driver but is for windows
[07:34] <dhq> |lostbyte|: http://www.kontact.org
[07:35] <|lostbyte|> It says clearly there, --> The mail component is provided by KMail,
[07:36] <ronnylinux> does anybody can help me?, i want to install my webcam, it is deluxe, i don't know how to do it, because i have the driver but is for windows
[07:37] <sudhi> tell me anybody how to install firefox on kubuntu
[07:37] <dhq> !kontact
[07:37] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1547 kB, installed size 3300 kB
[07:37] <dhq> !kmail
[07:37] <ubotu> kmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 2079 kB, installed size 6572 kB
[07:37] <ronnylinux> ubotu apt-get install firefox
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get install firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <ronnylinux> ubotu just type this  in the konsole apt-get install firefox
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about just type this  in the konsole apt-get install firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <|lostbyte|> lol
[07:42] <sudhi> how to enable root account
[07:44] <trappist> sudhi: basically you don't.  it can be done, but it's highly not-recommended.
[07:48] <[GuS] > how to disable? :P
[07:51] <main2> !howtoenablesuperrootuseraccountplease
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about howtoenablesuperrootuseraccountplease - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <main2> shit.. typo
[07:52] <sudhi> how to run the command as root while normal login
[07:53] <kuto> how do i view my webcam on kubuntu its in => /dev/video0
[07:53] <main2> sudhi: sudo -u yourusername command
[07:53] <main2> kuto: try videolan
[07:53] <main2> apt-get install vlc
[07:54] <main2> when you click open, you can select a v4l device (/dev/video0) or a pvr ..
[07:55] <kuto> can i stop apt-get that is currently updating and resume it at a later time?
[07:56] <sudhi> i have downloaded firefox gz file.... how to install
[07:57] <[GuS] > People... why installing nvidia-glx in Kubuntu, changes the fonts size...?
[07:57] <[GuS] > because i still having 9 as size
[07:57] <[GuS] > but the fonts became more small
[07:57] <[GuS] > (this happen in Edgy)
[07:58] <Pensacola> I'll be taking my linux pc to a lan party for the first time next month :)
[07:58] <kuto> lan party?
[07:59] <klerfayt> [GuS] : that is because nvidia drivers set dpi to something different it was before
[07:59] <main2> a local area network party, .. a place where geeks / retards meet up :P
[07:59] <[GuS] > and how to change that?
[07:59] <[GuS] > because this in dapper does not happen
[08:00] <klerfayt> [GuS] : you could use   Option "DPI" "96 x 96"
[08:00] <klerfayt> [GuS] : you know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:00] <[GuS] > ok, thanks klerfayt taking note of that ;)
[08:00] <[GuS] > yes
[08:01] <[GuS] > just have that doub
[08:01] <[GuS] > that happen before on breezy once
[08:01] <[GuS] > thanks :)
[08:01] <kuto> main2: and what do you do with that lan party?
[08:02] <main2> kuto: you really wanne know ?
[08:02] <[GuS] > inside nvidia driver section right klerfayt ? or could be just standalone?
[08:03] <klerfayt> [GuS] : where you put that famous option "NoLogo"
[08:03] <[GuS] > right
[08:03] <[GuS] > so there... ok
[08:03] <kuto> main2: sure, why not..
[08:03] <main2> you really really really really really wanne know?
[08:05] <alberto> ciao!
[08:06] <kuto> where can i edit eth0?
[08:07] <main2> ifconfig...
[08:07] <main2> eth1 is actually a device node, you shouldnt edit it
[08:07] <main2> just use ifconfig
[08:08] <main2> ifconfig man << do this first
[08:08] <kuto> i can edit eth0 file in redhat, its not possible in kubuntu?
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> kuto, you can
[08:10] <Samuli^> does k3b support lightscribe?_
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> kmenu > system settings > network settings :)
[08:11] <zerofool2005> hmm  just install gimp with apt-get install gimp
[08:11] <kuto> how about in cli?
[08:11] <zerofool2005> but i cant find it
[08:12] <Pensacola> lan party is fun :)
[08:12] <Pensacola> gaming and boozing for an entire weekend
[08:14] <SeventhOmen> Has anyone moved from Suse to Kubuntu?
[08:15] <|lostbyte|> !netinstall
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:21] <i4get2> im familiar with suse
[08:25] <Makro___________> i `m getting disconnected every time at random lapsus of time, it can be something wrong with my pppoeconf?
[08:30] <kuto> main2: when you click open, you can select a v4l device (/dev/video0) or a pvr .. <= where can i find this?
[08:36] <kuto> main2: ???
[08:37] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:37] <main2> kuto: have you installed videolan?
[08:37] <kuto> yes
[08:38] <kuto> Setting up vlc-plugin-alsa (0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) ...
[08:38] <kuto> Setting up vlc (0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6) ...
[08:38] <main2> have you started vlc?
[08:39] <main2> click on 'open'  or eject
[08:39] <main2> then you see a tab 'video 4 linux' and 'pvr'
[08:40] <kuto> http://pastebin.ca/176520
[08:40] <kuto> where can i see that link?
[08:41] <kuto> i saw a VLC media player..is that the one?
[08:47] <main2> yes
[08:49] <kuto> its blurred
[08:49] <main2> focus ur webcam
[08:49] <main2> turn the lens..
[08:54] <xfile> Sera a tutti
[08:56] <jpiccolo> well i guess i was dumb
[08:59] <jpiccolo> i am booted up with "nv" in my xorg, is there a way to run nvidia drivers and -27
[09:01] <|lostbyte|> !find mini
[09:01] <ubotu> Found: aspell-gl-minimos, minicom, python-minimal, python2.4-minimal, wgalician-minimos (and 16 others)
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> !find iso
[09:02] <ubotu> Found: bison, bison-doc, iso-codes, libpisock++0c2, libpisock-dev (and 29 others)
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> Is there a mini iso version on kubuntu ?
[09:02] <jpiccolo> a mini iso of what?
[09:03] <|lostbyte|> jpiccolo, the installation live cd ?
[09:03] <jpiccolo> that is an iso, yes
[09:03] <Sanne> bye all
[09:04] <jpiccolo> i dont know what you mean by mini though
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> jpiccolo, lolz, a less then minimal install cd
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> like a kubuntu version of DSL
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> Same small linux.
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> dame*
[09:05] <jpiccolo> oh, no i dont think so
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> :(
[09:05] <octan> ???
[09:06] <Riddell> |lostbyte|: the live CD only just fits on 1 CD, we can't make it any smaller
[09:06] <ninHer> hi all
[09:06] <Riddell> |lostbyte|: but see netboot install on KubuntuFiles
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> huh..k
[09:06] <Electrolyte> Can anyone tell me what gam_server is in the process list?
[09:06] <octan> Riddell, Yes you could make it smaller :P make it fit on a usb stick
[09:06] <Electrolyte> I'm having some trouble with it.
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> octan, yes thats what i am talking about.
[09:07] <jpiccolo> !gam_server
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gam_server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <octan> !mythtv
[09:07] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[09:07] <octan> !mythtv&xgl
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mythtv&xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Riddell> Electrolyte: it's for wathcing for changed files, we're getting rid of it in edgy
[09:08] <Electrolyte> The only time my system has locked up is because of it.
[09:08] <jpiccolo> when is edgy due out
[09:08] <Riddell> see EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:09] <jpiccolo> Riddell, do you know of a way i can run kernel -27 and nvidia drivers
[09:09] <JohnFlux> Riddell: i keep finding small things I'd like to fix in kubuntu
[09:09] <JohnFlux> Riddell: how do i get a cvs/svn account
[09:09] <octan> |lostbyte|, read this
[09:09] <octan> http://feraga.com/
[09:09] <JohnFlux> Riddell: or it doesn't work like that?
[09:09] <Riddell> JohnFlux: we don't use svn
[09:10] <Riddell> JohnFlux: generally you edit the package and send us a debdiff
[09:10] <JohnFlux> doesn't sound very open :/
[09:10] <chavo> JohnFlux, it's about as open as you can get
[09:11] <JohnFlux> chavo: um, allowing outsiders to get an account would be more open
[09:11] <Riddell> JohnFlux: well once you've shown you can do packaging you can get approved for ubuntu-dev and are allowed to upload to anything in universe
[09:11] <JohnFlux> Riddell: not packaging
[09:11] <JohnFlux> Riddell: kubuntu specific programs
[09:12] <|lostbyte|> octan, nice link, but i was looking to install kubuntu from a usb stick. but i only have a 512 MB stick.
[09:12] <|lostbyte|> Ref to : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:12] <Riddell> JohnFlux: new programmes or existing ones?  most of the existing ones we use bzr revision control, managed on launchpad.net
[09:12] <octan> well its a linux install :P
[09:12] <JohnFlux> Riddell: well like the language install
[09:12] <JohnFlux> Riddell: or the changes made to k3b
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> octan, but the size of image is greater
[09:14] <Riddell> JohnFlux: language selector (and there's plenty that needs improved in that, not least integration with the kcontrol modules) is  bzr branch http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/bzr/language-selector/language-selector--mvo/
[09:14] <octan> make your own mini img then :P
[09:14] <octan> can t help you more
[09:14] <Riddell> JohnFlux: k3b is an upstream package,  apt-get source k3b  will get you the source, our patches are in debian/patches
[09:15] <|lostbyte|> #cough#
[09:15] <JohnFlux> [20:15]  --> You have joined the channel #cough# (n=JohnFlux@konversation/developer/JohnFlux).
[09:16] <D4rkly> how do i find out what pci address my video card is on
[09:16] <Riddell> JohnFlux: we're all sitting in #kubuntu-devel if you have patches or suggestions
[09:16] <JohnFlux> D4rkly: lspci, but why?
[09:18] <D4rkly> caues i need to edit my xorg as i have moved my video card to a different slot to reduce heat
[09:22] <D4rkly> how can i pause the output of lspci after each page
[09:23] <D4rkly> my video card was at pci3:0:0 i need to find at which address it is now
[09:23] <GeneralZod> D4rkly: less lspci
[09:24] <GeneralZod> D4rkly:Whoops - meant "lspci | less"
[09:24] <Monchito> buenas
[09:24] <Alextremo> Hello Monchito
[09:25] <Alextremo> Only English
[09:25] <Monchito> como estamos
[09:25] <Monchito> ok man
[09:25] <Monchito> thanks
[09:25] <Alextremo> you're welcome
[09:27] <D4rkly> that doesnt seem to show me the bus address of my card eg pci 3:0:0
[09:28] <kubuntu> hola
[09:28] <Monchito> hello kubuntu
[09:28] <Xanith> What is a good mp3 to wav converter?
[09:29] <manu-root> good mp3 to wav -> soundKonverter
[09:29] <kubuntu> and what is is a good video editor (and also a video converter)?
[09:30] <Xanith> Thanks!
[09:30] <manu-root> hmm, maybe kino, sorry, I don't use it
[09:31] <D4rkly> how do i find out which bud id my nvidia card is on ?
[09:31] <manu-root> kino, for video
[09:31] <kubuntu> i m downloading it
[09:31] <D4rkly> sorry i mean bus id
[09:31] <manu-root> D4kly, have you try lspci on your konsole?
[09:31] <kubuntu> thank you
[09:31] <D4rkly> yep but id doesnt seem to show it
[09:32] <jpiccolo> woot  87298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17459.467 FPS    on 2.6.15-27-386
[09:32] <zorglu_> jpiccolo: impressive :)
[09:32] <manu-root> hmm, and Device Manager, witch comes with kubuntu
[09:33] <jpiccolo> yeah, i want to try to get sli in linx should do alot better
[09:33] <jpiccolo> anyone know of a better linux GPU benchmark?
[09:36] <D4rkly> im in terminal so if i use lspci i cant see all the info. all i need is the bus address of my nvidia card eg PCI3:0:0
[09:36] <danbuntu> how do i use xxmc & xxvm drivers for kaffeine?
[09:38] <manu-root> sorry dude, I can't help you, I think you will find this on your x11 config file
[09:38] <D4rkly> i need to find it to put in xorg thats why im in terminal
[09:41] <manu-root> well, too bad D4kly leave, the bus ID is in xorg.conf, simple like a 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:41] <octan> !cluster
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <octan> !clusterssh
[09:41] <ubotu> clusterssh: administer multiple ssh or rsh shells simultaneously. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.18.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 160 kB
[09:42] <octan> blah
[09:42] <miguel> Buenas, para el chat en espaol
[09:42] <fdoving> !es
[09:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:44] <miguel> #kubuntu-es
[09:45] <fdoving> miguel: /join #kubuntu-es
[09:55] <Monchito> i got a question'
[09:56] <manu-root> say it Monchito
[09:56] <the-only-real-sh> why adept manager removes kubuntu-destop package everytime i remove a package
[09:57] <Monchito> how i do to install a package like karamba in kubuntu?
[09:57] <kyaneos> why kubuntu developers are using PyKDE for most applications??
[09:57] <zorglu_> the-only-real-sh: it is not a problem. it does it because kubuntu-desktop is a metapacakge (aka a virtual package grouping a lot of other(
[09:57] <manu-root> kubuntu-desktop is a virtual package, provides a set of packages
[09:57] <GeneralZod> kyaneos:Fast development time, I guess.
[09:57] <kyaneos> mm ok
[09:57] <kyaneos> GeneralZod: thnx
[09:58] <kyaneos> :)
[09:58] <Monchito> ok man i understand thanks a lot
[09:58] <the-only-real-sh> that means? it will continue to remove the desktop files everytime i remove a package?
[09:58] <manu-root> monchito, do a "sudo apt-get install superkaramba"
[09:58] <GeneralZod> kyaneos:You're welcome :)
[09:58] <the-only-real-sh> and i shouldn't bother?
[09:59] <zorglu_> the-only-real-sh: you can safely ignore this. it is a small inconvenient you have to accept to make kubuntu easy to install :)
[09:59] <manu-root> no, just the meta-package is removed
[09:59] <the-only-real-sh> yeah, ok.  thought so :)
[09:59] <zorglu_> the-only-real-sh: if you look at the pacakage description, it is writen in it that it is safe to remove
[09:59] <GeneralZod> the-only-real-sh:kubuntu-desktop is basically an "empty" package which just says - install this long list of packages :) Removing it should have no harmful side effects.
[09:59] <jackle> guys.. please remember to in the next release.. to de-select the "use custom margins" for paper sizes in printers
[10:00] <Monchito> i have a test today about kubuntu and debian
[10:00] <manu-root> alright
[10:00] <the-only-real-sh> oh ok. i look for the description. thankx
[10:00] <fdoving> jackle: please make a bugreport at  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[10:03] <darknesss> in case there are kubuntu maintainers in here...
[10:03] <darknesss> please add vpnc to the default installation!
[10:04] <fdoving> won't happen for edgy atleast.
[10:04] <fdoving> darknesss: please make a bugreport/wishlist at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[10:12] <jackle> bug reported :)
[10:16] <ubuntu_> I am trying to install kubuntu on a raid 0 SATA. I installed dmraid, created my partitions with cfdisk, I can see all of them on the raid but when I reboot, kubuntu starts with it can't mount the / filesystem, any idea ?
[10:17] <tcw> I'm starrting to tip over to this distro
[10:17] <Kr[4] t05> Bah. ><
[10:23] <klerfayt> what's the default usb-mouse samplerate in dapper?
[10:25] <Zaire> !mp3
[10:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:26] <MarcC> !chat
[10:26] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[10:27] <tony_> hi guys.. i installed grub on my system , so now i have daulboot , both Ubuntu desktop and server.
[10:27] <tony_> how do i boot to server ???
[10:27] <tony_> what is the command that you use to enter Desktop from shell ???? :|
[10:27] <MarcC> startx?
[10:28] <tony_> ok
[10:28] <tony_> how do you run the server ??
[10:28] <tony_> dose server got any GUI ?
[10:28] <MarcC> what server do you have instaleld?
[10:28] <MarcC> server does not install a GUI
[10:28] <MarcC> !server
[10:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[10:28] <tony_> damn
[10:28] <MarcC> most people won't want a GUI running on a server, i guess that's why
[10:29] <MarcC> but you can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, I think
[10:29] <tony_> now how can i remove the server and get ride of Grup altogether
[10:29] <magical_trevsky> will this command transcode a wma file to an mp3? $ ffmpeg -i 01\ Track\ 1.wma  -acodec MP3 song.mp3
[10:29] <MarcC> that should get you a gui
[10:29] <MarcC> then you can run servers however you want
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> Is this ---------> j2re1.4 j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[10:29] <tony_> i see
[10:29] <MarcC> did you install the server on a different hard disk or partition?
[10:29] <tony_> on partition
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> all i need to get java running on firefox ?
[10:30] <MarcC> tony, I don't know the best way...maybe just re-format the partition and remove the GRUB entry, but maybe not
[10:31] <tony_> im new to linux, so i don't want to do that. or i have to reformat entire harddrive and install desktop from scratch
[10:31] <MarcC> you can just nuke the single partition if you want
[10:31] <zorglu_> !java
[10:31] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:31] <MarcC> then you won't have to reinstall anything
[10:32] <tony_> i can delete the partition that i have server, but then i have no clue what to do with grub
[10:32] <MarcC> !wherearemyshoes
[10:32] <Gabarit> hi all
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wherearemyshoes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <MarcC> darn
[10:32] <zorglu_> |lostbyte|: and another page from the intro book about common task :)
[10:32] <tony_> many entries in grub that make no sence , such as boot option with older kernel
[10:33] <MarcC> tony, grub just reads from this file: /boot/grub/menu.lst <--- open that in a text editor and remove the server entries
[10:33] <MarcC> you can remove the older kernel entries too, but it's probably best just to uninstall those old kernels through synaptic (IIRC)
[10:34] <tony_> thats the problme , there are no server entries there , atleast nothing that has the word SERVER
[10:34] <MarcC> tony_: maybe it was never listed in GRUB in the first place :)
[10:34] <zorglu_> tony_: dump the menu.lst into pastebin
[10:34] <zorglu_> !pastebin