[14:10] <IamTrying> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132839/  here kernels line have no numbering
[14:10] <loadid_czech> is it currently booting into the wrong kernel ikonia?
[14:10] <ikonia> IamTrying: are you kidding me ???
[14:11] <ikonia> IamTrying: you're able to diagnose this as a kernel problem, but you're not able to grasp the basics of 0 being the first entry in the grub menu 1, being the second entry in the grub menu
[14:11] <HackerII> doh!
[14:11] <IamTrying> ikonia, no but when you have Grub menu you have only one Selection "Ubuntu"
[14:11] <IamTrying> ikonia, then the menu 0 means only to "Ubuntu" if i now set to 4, here is no 4
[14:12] <ikonia> IamTrying: the grub menu shows the installed kernels
[14:12] <ace_striker> so problem is i cancelled  my apt-get install texlive-full in between and when i again issued the command sudo apt-get install texlive-full it keep waiting for header[0%] .. any help would be nice ..thanx
[14:12] <IamTrying> ikonia, i close my eyes, and putting 4
[14:12] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: try sudo apt-get --fix-missing
[14:13] <ikonia> IamTrying: why ?
[14:13] <ikonia> IamTrying: why don't you actually just work out the right number, using the information I've given you
[14:13] <IamTrying> ikonia, because line 145 showing in 4 : menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-44-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[14:13] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: thanks for reply...i tried sudo apt-get --fix-missing ,sudo apt-get update ,sudo apt-get upgrade ..but still waiting for headers
[14:14] <ikonia> IamTrying: that's what you want to work from - go for it
[14:14] <IamTrying> ikonia, yes so 0 till 3 is still kernel 3.5... and from 4 starts 3.2.
[14:14] <Diegonat> can i create a link file in two different devices?
[14:14] <loadid_czech> maybe thinks it's still in process and you need a reboot and try again ace_striker
[14:14] <IamTrying> ikonia, why should i not use update-grub2 but use update-grub ?
[14:15] <ikonia> IamTrying: update-grub2 works fine
[14:15] <loadid_czech> if you have grub2 installed use update-grub2
[14:15] <IamTrying> ikonia, kernel 3.2 is is grub2 or grub1 ?
[14:15] <loadid_czech> i don't think it makes a difference though
[14:15] <ikonia> IamTrying: the kernel is nothing to do with grub
[14:15] <IamTrying> loadid_czech, i have not installed any grub i used default Ubuntu liveCD.
[14:15] <loadid_czech> IamTrying: you have installed grub
[14:15] <ikonia> IamTrying: again - I'm baffled how you can work out kernel problems (or claim to) but have no idea how grub/the kernel works
[14:15] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: i already tried that too..no luck.
[14:16] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: try changing your download server
[14:16] <IamTrying> ikonia, i get confused with random OS, fedora, ubuntu , arch confuse me with there random setups.
[14:16] <IamTrying> Thank you Guru ikonia
[14:16] <ikonia> IamTrying: that is the same thing across all linux distributions
[14:16] <ikonia> IamTrying: so there is no confusion as it is the same in all linux distros
[14:16] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: also tried that..what ever available on askubuntu..regarding this.
[14:16] <ikonia> so that doesn't really make sense either
[14:16] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: try booting into the recovery console and
[14:17] <loadid_czech> "fix problems"
[14:17] <ace_striker> then..same command ?
[14:17] <IamTrying> ikonia, i set 4 and rebooted but its not coming online now.
[14:18] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: then same command ?
[14:18] <loadid_czech> i think it will automatically try and download and install missing packages, you may need to hardwire into your network and select the "enable networking" option before "fix problems" ace_striker
[14:18] <ikonia> IamTrying: probably because that was the wrong option
[14:18] <IamTrying> ikonia, OH NO - its in remote location .
[14:18] <IamTrying> ikonia, shit....
[14:18] <ikonia> IamTrying: then paying better attention to detail would seem prudent
[14:18] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: "fix problems" will attempt to download and install missing or half downloaded packages
[14:18] <ikonia> IamTrying: there is no need for the language
[14:18] <loadid_czech> although waiting for headers sounds like a connection problem to me
[14:18] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: let me try that...thank a lot
[14:19] <ace_striker> fix problem is command or option
[14:19] <IamTrying> ikonia, will it auto reboot or its frozen somewhere now in the grub screen?
[14:19] <loadid_czech> when you boot into the recovery mode from grub it will boot you into a console that will give you a few options... "enable networking" is one and "fix problems" is another
[14:19] <ikonia> IamTrying: did you set the fallback option ?
[14:20] <ace_striker> ok..
[14:20] <IamTrying> ikonia, you have not mention any just i changed that line from 0 to 4
[14:20] <ikonia> IamTrying: then no, it will just sit there
[14:20] <IamTrying> Oh God. not today
[14:20] <jolaren> OerHeks: Thanks for the suggestion, I used Gifsicle.. worked fine
[14:20] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: but the package is not fully downloaded..so can both happen (enable networking and fix problems)
[14:22] <IamTrying> ikonia, you should have told me no. i thought i was doing right. its in another country and now its friday.
[14:22] <IamTrying> Thank you anyway. i did not expected this will sit there now in Grub menu.
[14:23] <ikonia> IamTrying: I did tell you the right information
[14:23] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: the recovery console won't boot you all the way into your GUI, it will put you into a "half-booted" state.  you will have to "enable networking" to turn your network card on (wi-fi may not be enabled - hard wire only) and at that point "fix problems" should attempt to restart your package upgrade
[14:24] <loadid_czech> just boot into the recovery console from grub, let it boot until it asks what you want to do and see if you can figure it out from there ace_striker
[14:24] <loadid_czech> you do understand what I mean by recovery from grub right ace_striker?
[14:27] <xeeder> ikonia,  did it!! finally :) Thanks man!
[14:28] <Rory> xeeder: Was it that you had to install libssl-dev ?
[14:28] <xeeder> Rory,  yeah; i found that in software center
[14:29] <xeeder> after that it was a smooth ride :)
[14:31] <josh_____> Needing help with 32bit 13.04 image
[14:31] <xeeder> 'dislocker' installed into /usr/bin/
[14:31] <xeeder> See 'man 1 dislocker' for details on how to use it
[14:31] <xeeder> how to do that?
[14:32] <xeeder> should i cd to bin folder
[14:32] <xeeder> and type this : man 1 dislocker
[14:32] <xeeder> ?
[14:32] <josh_____> 32bit help, anyone??
[14:32] <josh_____> It boots just won't load Gnome/Unity
[14:32] <ikonia> xeeder: this is not something you sohuld be doing
[14:33] <ikonia> xeeder: you appear to be way outside of your skill level
[14:33] <josh_____> Why?
[14:33] <Rory> josh_____: Is this a LiveCD that won't log in, or an already installed system?
[14:34] <josh_____> Rory, it's been installed to the system from a USB
[14:34] <xeeder> ikonia,  i am a windows user; not a linux pro :/ i am working on later one...
[14:34] <ikonia> xeeder: yes, so my point stands
[14:35] <xeeder> ikonia, so how to proceed then?
[14:36] <Rory> xeeder: You should use a better encryption technology than Bitlocker. Something like Truecrypt which is cross-platform would be ideal
[14:36] <josh_____> RORY??
[14:37] <Rory> josh_____: Has it ever worked?
[14:37] <josh_____> No it was a fresh install from yesterday
[14:37] <josh_____> The PC does work though
[14:38] <josh_____> It had 9. something yesterday morning
[14:38] <xeeder> Rory,  i have 400+GB of data stored in bitlocker as of now; so i cant just switch to a new encryption tech :/
[14:39] <Rory> xeeder: If you want to use it on Ubuntu you may have to
[14:39] <josh_____> .......................................
[14:40] <Rory> xeeder: That filesystem driver looks very experimental and you might wake up one day to find it's eaten your 400G+
[14:40] <Rory> josh_____: What happens when you try to log in?
[14:40] <josh_____> I get the login screen, thats fine... When I authenticate it displays an error saying it failed to load Unity
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> I'm running Ubuntu inside a VM, and I had to force-restart my host machine the other day. This caused fsck to run and "delete unused blocks" rampantly, and now a lot of my system files seem to be gone. This is not a super-big deal; I can build a new machine and set up what I need. But I want to get just enough working so I can get off some data for work I was working on. Currently I am getting this when trying to sudo apt-get
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> autoremove and subsequently sudo dpkg --configure -a, which it tells me to run: dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0073' near line 0: field name 'libcrypto' must be followed by colon. I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12093363#post12093363.
[14:41] <Rory> josh_____: Can you let me know the error?
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> I'd pastebin but I can't copy/paste from the VM :(
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> cuz SSH isn't working
[14:41] <Rory> wizonesolutions: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[14:42] <wizonesolutions> Rory: lemme give that a shot :)
[14:42] <wizonesolutions> Rory: Heh, wget: error while loading shared libararies: /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8: invalid ELF header
[14:43] <Rory> ohhh I think you're pretty screwed wizonesolutions
[14:43] <Rory> wizonesolutions: Consider booting your Vm from a liveCD and running fsck
[14:43] <wizonesolutions> Rory: it's not critical work. I can redo it in an hour or two. Probably less time than I'd spend trying to salvage this?
[14:43] <PrideAndSorrow> how can i make ubuntu $windows transparent 2 each other?
[14:43] <PrideAndSorrow> how can i make ubuntu $ windows transparent 2 each other?
[14:44] <josh_____> Rory, not right now no.
[14:44] <josh_____> It's in one of the other buildings
[14:44] <PrideAndSorrow> i mean none of them can c the othe
[14:44] <Rory> josh_____: Come back when you are with the broken machine
[14:45] <Rory> PrideAndSorrow: What do you mean by "$ windows" ?
[14:45] <josh_____> It does not display the error anymore but it also does not display anything
[14:45] <josh_____> I just asked someone to check
[14:45] <Rory> josh_____: You could try creating a different user, and seeing if it works for that user
[14:45] <PrideAndSorrow> windows 8 os
[14:46] <josh_____> I have tried with guest session and my own user
[14:46] <josh_____> I cannot make more users there is no UI
[14:46] <Rory> PrideAndSorrow: What do you mean none of them can see the other?
[14:46] <Rory> josh_____: If it doesn't work for the guest session either then that means it's likely system-wide
[14:46] <Rory> josh_____: It's possible something went wrong during the download, installation or creation of the installation medium
[14:46] <josh_____> I know that Rory, how can I solve?
[14:47] <Rory> josh_____: Did you check the integrity of the install media before installing? There's an option on the boot menu when you boot from the live media to do this
[14:47] <PrideAndSorrow> Roy,when i log in ubontu,i can't c the windows partition in filesystem
[14:47] <josh_____> I'll go do that now
[14:47] <JoshDreamland> Anyone here know how to get the texlive programs to do anything? I feel like I'm playing a text adventure.
[14:47] <Rory> PrideAndSorrow: Are you trying to access your files from Windows, in Ubuntu?
[14:48] <PrideAndSorrow> Rory,exactly
[14:48] <Rory> I will brb for 10 minutes
[14:48] <loadid_czech> PrideAndSorrow: sudo fdisk -l
[14:48] <xeeder> ikonia, Rory  please see this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133002/
[14:49] <JoshDreamland> "I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed." "You have wandered into the slathering jaws of a hungry grue."
[14:49] <xeeder> its a method to access those bitlocked drives
[14:50] <arunkumar413> how to  add android-studio/bin/ to the PATH environmental variable
[14:50] <xeeder> i have read through it; and i did make sense of most of the things but i cant figure it out where to start
[14:51] <xeeder> and whats with .PP and .TPs throughout that file; should i care about that?
[14:51] <PrideAndSorrow> loadid_czech: http://dpaste.com/1389075/
[14:52] <xeeder> i think this is the format which i should use to access those drives: {-p[\fIRECOVERY_PASSWORD\fR] | -f \fIBEK_FILE\fR | -c} -F[\fIN\fR]] [-- \fIARGS\fR...]
[14:53] <loadid_czech> PrideAndSorrow: looks like your windows is either sda1 or sda5.. try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" and see if your windows files show up in the /mnt folder
[14:53] <fahadash> Hello, Is there any tool in ubuntu to test a 1TB HDD for physically damagned sectors ?
[14:53] <giorgio_> hi all... how can i shorten the address of a "current folder"? is it possible to do something like "/home/user/lazarus/sofware/database.fdb ---> ../database.fdb"
[14:54] <loadid_czech> fahadash: fsck /dev/sdX
[14:54] <fahadash> what ?
[14:55] <fahadash> loadid_czech: Have I done something to upset you ?
[14:55] <fahadash> Nevermind! I thought you wrote a bad word
[14:55] <Moonboot> That's the command to check hdd
[14:55] <fahadash> *fsck*
[14:55] <loadid_czech> ha... no, fsck = file system check
[14:56] <fahadash> I don't really care about the data, I can format that drive to be empty... I just want to know if its good
[14:56] <Moonboot> Giogio_: I think ~/ can be used to represent /home/user
[14:56] <loadid_czech> fsck will tell you if you have bad sectors or not... i think
[14:56] <fahadash> Actually, I am buying a 1TB HDD off classifieds, its used; but I have to bring a computer to hook it up and make sure it does not have bad sectors
[14:56] <ocooel> Freezing on purple splash screen with no ubuntu logo or white and orange dots.
[14:56] <xeeder> is there anybody that can figure this thing out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133002/ *its a method to access bitlocked drives*
[14:57] <Myrtti> fahadash: smartmontools might be a good tool under your belt too
[14:57] <ocooel> Just upgrade 12.10 to 13.04.
[14:57] <Rory> xeeder: Where are you seeing that? It looks like source code to generate a usage command or something
[14:57] <Rory> xeeder: I think you're way out of your depth to be honest, and I'd advise you not to continue with data you care about
[14:58] <Rory> xeeder: At least get it working with a test bitlocker volume only containing unimportant data
[14:59] <xeeder> Rory, i followed this: "Once installed, see dislocker(1) for details on how to use it." which led me to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133002/
[15:00] <xeeder> Rory, yeah i am attempting to use it on test drive..
[15:00] <Rory> xeeder: type in: man dislocker
[15:00] <fahadash> Myrtti: Are they bundled with ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[15:00] <Myrtti> fahadash: not by default.
[15:00] <fahadash> You think fsck wont suffice for my particular need ?
[15:00] <xeeder> Rory,  should i cd'ed to that location or continue typing by just opening the terminal?
[15:01] <Rory> xeeder: just type "man dislocker" from any location to see the manual page
[15:01] <Rory> xeeder: If you don't understand it, pastebin it and show me
[15:01] <xeeder> wow
[15:02] <xeeder> it is arranged; unlike the crude formatting which i showed you earlier
[15:02] <Rory> That's because the file you showed me was used to create the man page you're reading now
[15:03] <smw94> java eclipse error, here is the detail log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133060/
[15:03] <Rory> smw94: What caused that error?
[15:04] <smw94> Rory: when im importing java lib
[15:04] <Rory> smw94: What lib? What are you trying to do?
[15:05] <smw94> Rory: just importing java lib, ex: import java.swing.*
[15:05] <smw94> Rory: its crashed when im importing java, here is the detail http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133060/
[15:06] <Rory> smw94: At what point does that error appear?  Where do I start if I want to make a cronjob that logs whenever a certain process (by name) peaks in CPU for a few seconds?
[15:11] <jpds_> joris_: Nagios.
[15:11] <ab3e> Hi, I have a HUGE problem I forget a . while using chown as root. Im screwed. But I have a 18days old bakup. How can I make a script that changes the owners and groups to the right ones with the help of the backup ?
[15:11] <jpds_> joris_: And some graphing tool like ganglia.
[15:12] <joris_> jpds_: Unfortunately I am not an admin of the system
[15:12] <joris_> jpds_: All I want is to quickly prove a correlation between some outages and that process peaking CPU
[15:12] <xeeder> Rory,  it seems to me that VOLUME is the drive letter where those encrypted keys are present: volume to get metadata and encrypted keys from
[15:12] <joris_> I was hoping for some ps | grep based solution
[15:12] <joris_> But I don't know the fine points
[15:13] <joris_> I have access to top
[15:13] <Rory> xeeder: VOLUME will be something like /dev/sda2
[15:13] <Rory> xeeder: Find out with the command "sudo fdisk -l" to list partitions on your system
[15:14] <smw94> Rory: eclipse error when i try to import java lib, any help ?
[15:14] <Rory> smw94: I'd recommend you ask in #eclipse at this point
[15:15] <smw94> Rory: ok thanks 4 advice
[15:16] <pmenon> hey folks, any networking specialists around?
[15:16] <ikonia_> pmenon: lots in ##networking
[15:17] <xeeder> Rory,  there is a text file which i want to open and it says that: "The file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document.
[15:17] <xeeder> You can also choose another character encoding and try again."
[15:18] <Rory> xeeder: Is this unrelated to your bitlocker questions?
[15:18] <xeeder> now i have tried other character encoding but no luck
[15:18] <xeeder> Rory,  no..that file holds the key
[15:18] <Rory> xeeder: What is the file name and location?
[15:18] <Rory> xeeder: The file doesn't HOLD the key, it IS the key
[15:19] <xeeder> yeah it is; but under windows i can easily open that file
[15:19] <xeeder> its a text file
[15:19] <xeeder> it should open in editor easily
[15:19] <Rory> xeeder: What is it's file name and location?
[15:19] <Rory> xeeder: AKA how are you opening it?
[15:19] <fahadash> Is it hard to install ubuntu on my windows 8 tablet ?
[15:20] <Rory> fahadash: It depends, does the system have a make and model?
[15:20] <fahadash> Dell XPS 10 with Windows RT
[15:20] <xeeder> Rory,  its in the drive which is not bitlocked.
[15:21] <fahadash> I want all the good features of the ubuntu tablet that the Australian guy described in his video
[15:21] <xeeder> "BitLocker Recovery Key 2E78E52A-0B61-44A9-B5FB-B&&&&&&&txt"
[15:21] <Rory> xeeder: Do you know that's what you need?
[15:21] <xeeder> thats the file name; taken from properties of that file
[15:21] <xeeder> yeah it is what i need
[15:21] <xeeder> but i need to open it first
[15:22] <Rory> You don't, you pass the filename like I said above
[15:22] <xeeder> is there any universal text viewer?
[15:22] <xeeder> or something like that in ubuntu
[15:22] <Rory> xeeder: sudo dislocker -V VOLUME -f BEK_FILE /mnt
[15:22] <anonim>  /join #Illiser
[15:22] <anonim>  /join Illiser
[15:22] <Rory> xeeder: Where is this file? What is it's actual path? Something like /media/something/
[15:23] <fahadash> Is there any website with list of Tablets that Ubuntu Tablet edition supports ?
[15:23] <bejker> anonim:  don use space before /join
[15:23] <xeeder> Rory,  i tried your command but its not able to identify bek_file; i think i should put path to that file there and see what it results into
[15:23] <anonim>  /join Illiser2
[15:24] <xeeder> Rory, /media/Softwares/Office
[15:24] <bejker> anonim:  dont type space before /join
[15:24] <Rory> xeeder: What is the full filename? it'll be /media/Softwares/Office/something
[15:24] <ice9> On Ubuntu 13.04 it's not capturing audio, however it was working fine
[15:26] <xeeder> Rory,  /media/Softwares/Office/BitLocker Recovery Key 2E78E52A-0B61-44A9-B5FB-B&&&&&&&&txt
[15:27] <Rory> xeeder: I did a bit of research and the file you want isn't that, it ends with .bek file extension I believe
[15:27] <Rory> xeeder: You have to set Bitlocker up on Windows in a particular way
[15:27] <xeeder> Rory,  i do have the password for my drive; cant i use that simply?
[15:27] <MO_Handes> I set gnome to use network time but it does not update the time? how can I force it to update the time now?
[15:28] <Rory> xeeder: No, you need this .bek file
[15:28] <Rory> xeeder: Like I said, it's EXTREMELY early and experimental support, and you should expect your data to be lost
[15:28] <fahadash> I guys people hate me because now I am Ubuntu-holic :(
[15:28] <xeeder> Rory,  gotcha
[15:29] <xeeder> brb
[15:29] <Rory> xeeder: My recommendation would be to copy all this data out of Bitlocker onto another drive or something, then use Truecrypt, which works completely in both Windows and Linux
[15:29] <fahadash> *guess
[15:30] <steve__> us..archive.ubuntu.com isn't responding
[15:30] <Rory> steve__: Is that what it actually says? With two .. after us?
[15:31] <steve__> trying to grab a package and found it isn't responding.. Also have the same result thru a browser
[15:32] <Rory> steve__: Can you please put the output of running the command: "sudo apt-get update" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:32] <OerHeks> steve__, what ubuntu version?
[15:32] <Marlenee> can someone help me in installing ajaxplorer on ubuntu server ?
[15:33] <fahadash> Do I have to download separate ubuntu version for tablet PC or Desktop 12.04 LTS is going to work ?
[15:33] <luky> hallo i have a problem mysql ERROR 1045 (28000) as root user. i have tried to change mysql root pw but it hangs while executing commands
[15:33] <Rory> fahadash: You need to use an ARM version on your machine
[15:33] <Rory> fahadash: The normal x86 and x64 versions won't work on ARM
[15:33] <Rory> What ubuntu version, luky ?
[15:34] <fahadash> Rory: And the one that popup up keyboard when a textbox comes into focus right ?
[15:34] <luky> 12.04
[15:34] <Rory> fahadash: I don't know anything about tablet Ubuntu, but I do know that if your tablet comes with Windows RT is it ARM, and so needs an OS built for ARM
[15:34] <Rory> luky: Can you get a mysql prompt with the command: mysql -u root -p
[15:34] <steve__> ubuntu 13.04
[15:35] <Rory> steve__: Can you please put the output of running the command: "sudo apt-get update" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:35] <luky> no it asks me for password but then it says incorrect with 1045
[15:35] <fahadash> Rory: This is the processor they are showing on Manufacturer's website. Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ S4 1.5GHz DC processor
[15:35] <Rory> luky: The error then is that your password is incorrect. How did you install mysql
[15:36] <Rory> fahadash: That's right, that's an ARM chip. A good one, too :)
[15:36] <luky> https://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/
[15:36] <steve__> doesn't matter what system, computer, or browser I use.. Same result. The repo is just not responding.
[15:36] <luky> like it was described here for my mail server
[15:36] <Rory> steve__: This is the last time I'll ask this: Can you please put the output of running the command: "sudo apt-get update" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:37] <Rory> luky: Were you asked to choose a root password for mysql as part of the installation process
[15:37] <OerHeks> steve__, try changing the mirror ?
[15:37] <luky> i wasnt asked
[15:37] <Rory> luky: you ran apt-get install lamp-server^ and weren't asked for a mysql root password?
[15:38] <fahadash> Where can I download ubuntu ARM ? Desktop version. Google gives me Server
[15:38] <ocooel> Please help. Error with /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root won't allow me to start ubuntu 13.04
[15:38] <luky> yep maybe my provider installed mysql before in default config
[15:38] <crazybrain> how can we install itunes in Ubuntu 12.10
[15:38] <luky> but the provider sql pw wont work
[15:38] <Rory> fahadash: I don't think it's been invented yet
[15:38] <Rory> luky: You could try looking here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[15:38] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I wonder why Recovery mode makes more problem then help doing anything. For example, when I select failsafeX - PC just hangs
[15:38] <fahadash> oh man!!!
[15:38] <OerHeks> !arm
[15:38] <OnkelTem> also, when I just try enabling network - the computer stop responding too
[15:39] <crazybrain> How to install Itunes in Ubuntu 12.1
[15:39] <crazybrain> 12.10
[15:39] <Rory> !itunes | crazybrain
[15:40] <OerHeks> crazybrain, see the wine database, i guess not.
[15:40] <crazybrain> can we access itunes University through Ubuntu?
[15:40] <crazybrain> I want webcasts and podcasts
[15:40] <ocooel> Working fine with older kernel version
[15:40] <crazybrain> any way through which we can do that?
[15:40] <ocooel> How can I fix this..?
[15:40] <OerHeks> crazybrain, no, use your apple device and wifi.
[15:41] <smaudet> !uefi
[15:42] <smaudet> Is 13.04 not compatible with UEFI firmware?
[15:42] <OnkelTem> How to NOT RUN Xorg and get into console?
[15:43] <OnkelTem> As Xorg not-functioning
[15:43] <Rory> smaudet: It is compatible
[15:43] <daftykins> OnkelTem: even if it fails to start, ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 should get you to a console
[15:43] <tigran> hi, please suggest best drivers for ATI Radeon
[15:44] <dtcrshr> what will be better on an acer notebook, with intel core2 duo t6600 2.2gh?
[15:44] <OnkelTem> daftykins: it doesn't work either. PC hangs
[15:44] <smaudet> Rory: Any idea why a perfectly good 13.04 64 bit disk might not be running on uefi firmware then?
[15:44] <dtcrshr> 32 or 64 bits ubuntu?
[15:44] <tigran> 64
[15:44] <smaudet> Rory: the disk in question runs fine on a bios computer, I've got the live cd booted up atm
[15:44] <dtcrshr> tigran: im using the experimental ones, I can play tf2 and dota2 just fine
[15:44] <daftykins> OnkelTem: hmm, is this something that's developed as a problem or is it happening with a clean install?
[15:44] <dtcrshr> ill fire up the 64 bitys then
[15:44] <Rory> smaudet: What happens when you try to boot it on your UEFI machine? How far do you get?
[15:44] <tigran> please link dtcrshr
[15:44] <smaudet> Rory: I get to grub
[15:44] <luky> Rory: thank you it worked
[15:45] <ocooel> Need smart ubuntu-er.
[15:45] <smaudet> Rory: that works, I choose "Try Ubuntu"
[15:45] <Rory> !ask
[15:45] <dtcrshr> tigran: iv got them via jockey
[15:45] <tigran> ok, thanks
[15:45] <smaudet> Rory: disk spins, and I get a black screen
[15:45] <phunyguy> !ask | ocooel
[15:45] <OnkelTem> daftykins: clean install on MacBook Pro. Installation in UI started working after I added 'nomodeset' to kernet params. Now after installation Ubuntu never starts
[15:45] <smaudet> Rory: computer doesn't seem to do anything after that, I have to restart it afterwards
[15:45] <OnkelTem> daftykins: both with nomodeset or without it
[15:45] <ocooel> Problem with LUKs and ubuntu-root.
[15:46] <ocooel> Need to boot into old kernel version in grub for access to ubuntu 13.04.
[15:46] <daftykins> OnkelTem: ah i see, are you able to retrieve the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the installation to see what it's doing and tripping up on? i'd guess you have an nvidia optimus style setup that's breaking
[15:46] <smaudet> Its a Lenovo G700, I've turned Secure Boot off, and I've turned off Fast Boot (I've got Windows 8 on here, want to see that I can boot something before I try wiping my drive)
[15:46] <OnkelTem> daftykins: how can I see if I can't get into console?
[15:46] <Rory> smaudet: Did you read the instructions here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[15:47] <smaudet> Rory: yes, I found that, the instructions are to turn stuff off, which I've tried, to no avail
[15:47] <daftykins> OnkelTem: boot the liveCD again and pastebin the file from the filesystem
[15:47] <OnkelTem> daftykins: let me try recovery mode rioot console
[15:47] <smaudet> Rory: only thing I couldn't find was the Intel SRT, which I presume means I don't have it.
[15:49] <smaudet> Rory: so more or less I'm stuck on step 3 of that first "Trial and Error" section
[15:49] <A1Recon> Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[15:49] <A1Recon> /dev/sda2       15349744  10951992   3611372  76% /
[15:49] <A1Recon> what are these in ........bytes??
[15:50] <A1Recon> oh
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: use:  df -h
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: easier
[15:51] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Thanks!!
[15:52] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Grub is part of kernel yes..?
[15:52] <smaudet> Rory: if you know anything or somewhere else to look I'd appreciate it, otherwise I'm going to have to try a non-Ubuntu distro next.
[15:53] <OnkelTem> daftykins: when I boot from "liveCD" (Ubuntu 13.04 desktop on USB flash stick), I get into console. Xorg doesn't start
[15:53] <ocooel> If I boot from older version, can I remove and reinstall 3.8.0-30.44 and hope it fixes my problem with grub..?
[15:53] <ocooel> ActionParsnip
[15:53] <ocooel> ,
[15:54] <Marlenee> can someone help me in installing ajaxplorer on ubuntu server ?
[15:54] <daftykins> OnkelTem: you could mount the filesystem of the installation to get to the Xorg log
[15:54] <daftykins> OnkelTem: but if you installed with updates this time, as in let it download updates, reinstalling without updates may help
[15:54] <OnkelTem> daftykins: but I have no network so I can't publish it
[15:55] <smaudet> Rory: the tutorial did mention using 12.04.2 or greater, so I did wonder if perhaps only LTS was properly supported on uefi
[15:55] <daftykins> OnkelTem: no flash drive to take a copy, boot OS X or use another computer?
[15:56] <OnkelTem> daftykins: how will open Xorg.0.log if OS X unable to read ext4
[15:56] <OnkelTem> :)
[15:56] <CatKiller> OnkelTem: one word: Fuse
[15:56] <smaudet> OnkelTem: ugh, try macfuse
[15:57] <OnkelTem> ok
[15:57] <daftykins> OnkelTem: the ubuntu liveCD/USB... :)
[15:57] <CatKiller> OnkelTem: example: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuse-ext2/
[15:57] <CatKiller> works on Mac OS X
[15:57] <smaudet> OnkelTem: be warned though, the fuse implementation on mac is/was something of a hack, thanks to Finder being annoying, according to the guy who wrote it at least
[15:57] <CatKiller> with Fuse (File System in User Space) you can mount many different filesystems in userspace (no root access required)
[15:58] <smaudet> OnkelTem: don't try to write anything using Fuse
[15:58] <smaudet> OnkelTem: I'd recommend just reading stuff
[15:58] <CatKiller> The fuse driver is in the kernel, and the individual filesystem drivers are ran in userspace
[15:58] <CatKiller> brilliant actually
[15:58] <CatKiller> but a bit slopw
[15:58] <CatKiller> *slow
[15:58] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:58] <smaudet> CatKiller: yeah its nice but as I said it could be better implemented I think
[15:59] <CatKiller> smaudet: How?
[15:59] <smaudet> CatKiller: *shrug* I just know that I've used it and its been unreliable/tanked drives before
[15:59] <smaudet> The mac implementation isn't as good as the linux one
[16:00] <CatKiller> smaudet: I mainly use it on OSX and I never had an issue. I used it to copy gigabytes and thousands of files
[16:00] <smaudet> CatKiller: to or from the drive?
[16:00] <smaudet> CatKiller: I've only ever run into problems when writing
[16:00] <CatKiller> smaudet: But here we're talking transferring a single file or something so it really doesn't amtter
[16:00] <CatKiller> *matter
[16:01] <CatKiller> yes writing I was
[16:01] <nightdrever> could anyone give me a standard set of sources......Software sources under other sources??......ive added a few and i might have deleted some id like to restore it to default
[16:01] <nightdrever> im on 12.04
[16:01] <smaudet> CatKiller: well perhaps someone fixed osx since I last used it.
[16:01] <Rory> nightdrever: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[16:01] <smaudet> I'd hope they put something into those new versions of OSX after all ;)
[16:01] <nightdrever> thanks Rory
[16:03] <Rory> nightdrever: Don't forget there are also lists in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:03] <nightdrever> how do i update my repos?
[16:03] <__marco> hello, I have the same problem reported here, how can I solve? I need to build the package twice (amd64 and i386). http://askubuntu.com/questions/189926/
[16:03] <Rory> nightdrever: sudo apt-get update
[16:04] <nightdrever> i mean change my repos from copy and paste from that site
[16:05] <Plouj> hi
[16:05] <Rory> nightdrever: You said you changed them before? Do the same again, edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:05] <Rory> nightdrever: Don't forget there are also lists in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:05] <Plouj> How do I pass -j10 to make when I execute the second last command in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Systemtap#How_do_I_build_a_debuginfo_kernel_if_one_isn.27t_available.3F ?
[16:05] <nightdrever> what sources can i delete in list.d?
[16:06] <Rory> nightdrever: All of them, if you want it to be like default
[16:06] <nightdrever> and how do i delete as the option isnt avaliable?
[16:06] <Rory> nightdrever: basically, repositories are listed in the file /etc/apt/sources.list and in all the files in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:06] <nightdrever> well i cant delete list.d??????
[16:07] <Rory> No nightdrever you just want to to delete the files in that directory
[16:07] <nightdrever> i cant
[16:07] <zykotick9> Plouj: keep in mind, that lucid desktop is EOL, i hope this is server.
[16:07] <Rory> nightdrever: You can leave them there if they're things you're using
[16:07] <nightdrever> move to rubbish bin is not there
[16:08] <nightdrever> well non selectable
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: You will need to be root, and use the command line
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: I'd recommend not deleting them
[16:08] <nightdrever> ok
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: Just replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with what you generated from that site
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: then run sudo apt-get update and let me know if you get any errors
[16:08] <Phered> Hello,
[16:08] <Phered> I have a question. I've installed Ubuntu Server on my hard disk for a home
[16:08] <Phered> server. I use LVM. I am going to upgrade my home server by adding several hard
[16:08] <Phered> disks. My idea was to add a SSD for the OS, that way the hard disks can spin
[16:08] <Phered> down when inactive. Now my question is: can I do a clean install of
[16:08] <FloodBot1> Phered: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <Phered> Ubuntu Server 12.04.3 on the SSD and expand the "media partition" on the
[16:08] <Rory> !sudo | nightdrever
[16:09] <zykotick9> nightdrever: ahhh, just FYI, but if you still have packages installed from any 3rd party repo, then yanking the sources for those packages out, might not be the best idea.  apt won't downgrade packages...
[16:10] <Rory> nightdrever: if you just want to make sure you aren't *missing* any repos, then don't delete anything, just add :)
[16:10] <nightdrever> ok thanks guys
[16:10] <Rory> nightdrever: You can also use the GUI tool software-properties-gtk to add and modify repos
[16:10] <Phered> Hello, I have a question. I've installed Ubuntu Server on my hard disk for a home server. I use LVM. I am going to upgrade my home server by adding several hard disks. My idea was to add a SSD for the OS, that way the hard disks can spin down when inactive. Now my question is: can I do a clean install of Ubuntu Server 12.04.3 on the SSD and expand the "media partition" on the already used hard disk to the full disk size? That way
[16:10] <Phered>  I wil have the SSD for the OS and the hard disks are only for backups/media.
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Phered: yes, as long as the partition is unmounted when you fiddle with it
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Phered: it's also a good idea to make a backup if you can
[16:12] <Rory> Phered: Yes, but to be super safe do all your partition resizing from a LiveCD, and make backups first
[16:12] <nick688> hi
[16:13] <nick688> I installed windows and Ubuntu on different partitions
[16:13] <Rory> nick688: hello
[16:13] <nick688> but when I boot it doesn't show boot menu to choose the os
[16:13] <smallfoot> When I try to login to gnome-session-flashback it logs in into Unity instead :(
[16:13] <Rory> nick688: Did you install Windows first?
[16:13] <nick688> it automatically boots windows
[16:13] <nick688> yes Rory ::
[16:14] <nick688> :/
[16:14] <Rory> !grub | nick688 take a look at the second link
[16:14] <nick688> first windows 8
[16:14] <Rory> Sorry the first link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:14] <nick688> I am on phone now can't use pc
[16:14] <nightdrever> how do i delete everything in a folder via rerminal
[16:14] <Rory> You need to read the information in there nightdrever
[16:14] <Rory> nightdrever: rm /path/to/directory/*
[16:15] <Phered> I already did a backup. So I am going to use the live-cd to remove all patitions but the one I want to keep; extend that partition for the full disk size.  And then do a clean install of Ubuntu Server on the SSD and just mount the hard disk!?
[16:15] <nick688> Rory what should I do ?
[16:15] <nightdrever> ok i want to delete #############################################################
[16:15] <nightdrever> ################### OFFICIAL UBUNTU REPOS ###################
[16:15] <nightdrever> #############################################################
[16:15] <nightdrever> ###### Ubuntu Main Repos
[16:15] <FloodBot1> nightdrever: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <nightdrever> deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[16:16] <Rory> nick688: You should read the link I sent you, it tells you
[16:16] <nick688> test
[16:16] <Rory> nick688: It will work on a phone also
[16:16] <nick688> give me again pls
[16:16] <Rory> nick688: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> nick688: which OS boots?
[16:17] <nick688> windows 8 boots auto
[16:17] <nick688> it suppose to show me list which to boot
[16:18] <nick688> it was not a problem before
[16:18] <Rory> Before what?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> nick688: use liveCD and chroot to the installed OS, you can then instate grub to the MBR
[16:18] <nick688> before I installed windows 7 and Ubuntu earlier version
[16:18] <gladoscc> is there a way to view what process has how many file operators open?
[16:18] <anon12> Does anyone know how to fix a wireless card(wlan0) coming up as not managed in the network gui after editing /etc/network/interfaces and rebooting?
[16:18] <gladoscc> node.js is crashing because I have too many files open, but that shouldn't happen
[16:18] <Rory> nick688: If you follow the "Recommended" instructions in the link I send you, it should sort it out
[16:19] <nick688> I don't have cd drive
[16:19] <gladoscc> so I'd like to see which process is reading how many files
[16:19] <nick688> I use USB key
[16:19] <Rory> nick688: That's fine
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> nick688: same difference
[16:19] <__marco> no idea how to solve this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/189926/
[16:20] <zykotick9> anon12: if you setup the card in /e/n/interfaces, then N-M won't look after it - thus the "not managed" message you are getting.  remove the setting in /e/n/interfaces to use N-M.
[16:20] <setuid> I've got X running, but it's "off screen". When I set the resolution to 1024x768 for example, anything around the perimeter (menus, icons, toolbars) are "off screen", under the plastic of the monitor itself.
[16:20] <calwig> !pdf
[16:20] <setuid> I tried multiple monitors, multiple resolutions, they all do it
[16:20] <anon12> @ zykotick9 /e/n/interfaces ?
[16:20] <zykotick9> anon12: /etc/network/interfaces
[16:20] <calwig> so are there any open source PDF editors?
[16:20] <setuid> How can I configure X so the screen is corner to corner, not "off screen"?
[16:21] <nick688> it s annoying
[16:21] <Rory> calwig: Libreoffice Writer can import PDFs I believe
[16:21] <Rory> nick688: Did it work?
[16:21] <nick688> ok I plugged USB
[16:21] <nick688> let's see now
[16:21] <anon12> zykotick9, I restored /etc/network/interfaces to the back up I had and it still has the problem
[16:22] <zykotick9> anon12: did you reboot after restoring the file?  if you have, post your /etc/network/interfaces to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:22] <anon12> yes
[16:22] <nick688> there s Try Ubuntu - Install Ubuntu
[16:22] <Rory> nick688: Try Ubuntu
[16:22] <nick688> which one ?
[16:22] <smaudet> Rory: so you do or don't know anything?
[16:22] <nick688> but it s installed already
[16:22] <Rory> nick688: Have you read the instructions?
[16:23] <smaudet> with regards to my uefi issue
[16:23] <calwig> Rory, ok thanks
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> nick688: try ubuntu
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> nick688: there is a guide on OMGUbuntu called: sticking it to Grub
[16:23] <nick688> ok now Ubuntu desktop interface opened
[16:24] <Rory> nick688: Now follow the rest of the instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[16:24] <nick688> it says repair boot but where ?
[16:24] <Rory> "2. Install and run Boot-Repair "
[16:24] <anon12> zykotick9, I am going to try rebooting again
[16:24] <nick688> where s boot repair ?
[16:24] <Rory> nick688: sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[16:25] <UKn0Me> Ubuntu, ROCKS!
[16:25] <Rory> oh hold on nick688 that might not work
[16:25] <Rory> nick688: Look at this page: 2nd option: install Boot-Repair in Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> nick688: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[16:26] <nick688> unable to locate package boot-repair
[16:26] <Guest79085> hello
[16:26]  * Rory gives up and goes home
[16:27] <OnkelTem> Ok, I decided to start installation from scratch. I'm installing Ubuntu 13.04 on MacBook Pro 8.2. First, installation boot loader starts in text mode. There I see variants: 1) try ubuntu 2) install ubuntu 3) for OEM 4) something else.
[16:27] <OnkelTem> I try first option - try ubuntu.
[16:27] <OnkelTem> And see black screen.
[16:27] <HackerII> Rory   giving up ??, say it aint so.
[16:28] <OnkelTem> Then I edited "Try ubuntu" parameters, removed splash and quiet and added "nomodeset". NOw Ubuntu startts with text messages and I get into console. X doesn't start
[16:28] <OnkelTem> What is the next step?
[16:29] <BumpaUmpa> anyone know how to solve "error: unknown filesystem. grub rescue>" http://qs.lc/29zm ?
[16:29] <OnkelTem> How it is supposed by Ubuntu creators to use installer if it doesn't start?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> BumpaUmpa: a good start is an fsck from liveCD/USB
[16:30] <newhite> How can you determine how your pts's are mapped?
[16:30] <nick688> it s annoying really
[16:31] <nick688> isn't there simple way ?
[16:31] <zzxx> hello, on my laptop I have brighness keys that controll the intensity of my screens
[16:31] <zzxx> backlight
[16:31] <BumpaUmpa> ActionParsnip, it's not when im trying to install, it's when I boot the system
[16:31] <zzxx> however, when I click the keys it makes large jumps in the intensity
[16:31] <nick688> it s not easy to read all the codes via phone
[16:31] <zzxx> is there any way to tune it to make fine adjjustments?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> BumpaUmpa: yes, but if the installed OS's file system is not consistant you can get issues
[16:32] <zzxx> I have sensitive eyes, and the dramatic jumps in brightness are not pleasant :P
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: what make and model laptop?
[16:34] <BumpaUmpa> ActionParsnip, oh, sorry, I thought you meant a fsck [b]on[/b] the liveCD
[16:34] <zzxx> lenovo idea pad u400
[16:34] <nick688> does it help if I install Ubuntu again?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: why was that not in the initial qustion..?
[16:34] <zzxx> ActionParsnip: because i did not realize it was relevent
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: sure it is, each system is different in component and setup
[16:35] <nick688> hello?
[16:35] <OnkelTem> daftykins: I deleted everything I installed before and I started from begining. I can't run Ubuntu in "Try" mode.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: some laptops work 100% out of the box, some need work
[16:35] <daftykins> OnkelTem: even with 'nomodeset' ?
[16:36] <nick688> ActionParsnip ?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> nick688: sup
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: http://www.lagserv.net/wp/2012/01/does-your-lenovo-ideapad-u400-run-hot-under-ubuntu-11-10/
[16:36] <nick688> can't do it
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: seems to be a switching gfx card which is far from friendly
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> nick688: cant do what
[16:37] <OnkelTem> daftykins: without 'nomodeset' it stops during bootup at message: http://cs320423.vk.me/v320423424/2c56/QFBG3PFmJOY.jpg
[16:37] <nick688> can't repair boot
[16:37] <setuid> I've got X running, but it's "off screen". When I set the resolution to 1024x768 for example, anything around the perimeter (menus, icons, toolbars) are "off screen", under the plastic of the monitor itself. I tried multiple monitors, multiple resolutions, they all do it  How can I configure X so the screen is corner to corner, not "off screen"?
[16:38] <OnkelTem> daftykins: with nomodeset it runs up to login prompt
[16:38] <daftykins> OnkelTem: hmm ok, unfortunately i am leaving soon so i don't have time to help any further i'm afraid - maybe google that message or see if anyone else can help
[16:38] <SpeedFire_laptop> Hi, someone can help me for a bug ? I have a Lenovo W520 and the click doesn't really work good. Any idea ?
[16:38] <OnkelTem> daftykins: ok, thanks
[16:38] <OnkelTem> daftykins: I googled actually.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> nick688: you can, use the live USB stick desktop. I even gave the url
[16:39] <OnkelTem> Anyone experienced with running Ubuntu on MacBook?
[16:39] <nick688> ActionParsnip this phone screen is very small
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> nick688: use a pen and paper....
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> nick688: the commands are basically the same, ust a different folder
[16:41] <A1Recon> I type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install arduino arduino-core" into the terminal and I get this....
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:42] <A1Recon> Why is this happening
[16:42] <A1Recon> ?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: is software centre open?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: or synaptic etc...
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: or are updates running in another terminal?
[16:43] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: It was updating....
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: then thats why the packages are locked....
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: only one process can access the packages at one time
[16:44] <A1Recon> OK
[16:44] <A1Recon> Thanks!!
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: same winth the Windows installer too
[16:45] <zzxx> ActionParsnip: Sorry, you seem to have misunderstood my question. I am not trying to remedy a problem with the gpu, or tempurature issues. In fact, there is no true "problem" in the sense that nothing is broken, or running in an errenious fashion. The reason I come here for help is that when I adjust the brightness of my lcd screen with the brightness buttons on my keyboard, the intensity of the light on my screen jumps from very dim,
[16:45] <zzxx> however, when I adjust the brightness via the gui, I can select with much finer control the brighness (there are more stops on the slider so to speak.), so i am wondering if instead of jumping say 10 stops each time I press a brightness button, have it only jump 2 or 3.
[16:46] <OnkelTem> How to press Ctrl-Alt-F1 on MacBook?
[16:47] <Plouj> zykotick9: Sure. I think my question still applies to non-EOL releases though.
[16:48] <zykotick9> Plouj: if you are using Lucid desktop, upgrade to a supported release - then feel free to ask again (if problem persists).
[16:49] <zzxx> hmmm, it seems at though ActionParsnip has left. If anyone else cares to take a stab at my question above, it would be welomed and appreciated ^^
[16:49] <zzxx> welcomed*
[16:49] <mydog2> hi.. anyone here using ssh?
[16:50] <gordonjcp> !anyone | mydog2
[16:50] <zzxx> mydog2: I am.
[16:50] <mydog2> in particular, ssh with multiple targeted servers, so you have multiple priv/pub key pairs?
[16:50] <zzxx> nope. nm
[16:51] <mshaw> just ask the question
[16:51] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - had to be the dude who did this eh.. coldn't wait for the rest of the question..
[16:51] <mydog2> hey mshaw
[16:51] <zzxx> mshaw: ^^agreed
[16:51] <mydog2> basically.. trying to figure out the process for setting up multiple keys..
[16:51] <gordonjcp> multiple keys in what sense?
[16:52]  * mshaw heads over to #recipes and asks 'hey, do you guys eat?'
[16:52] <zykotick9> mshaw: it's "hey does anyone eat" ;)
[16:52] <nick688> hi again
[16:52] <mydog2> i thought/tried to create the multiple priv keys and stored them in the /user/.ssh/id_rsa_user1 id_rsa_user2 and of course added the pub keys to the targeted authkeyfile
[16:53] <mrrcp> hell
[16:53] <mrrcp> hello
[16:53] <mrrcp> i am trying to prevent root user in ssh...   PermitRootLogin no   is the correct format right?
[16:53] <mydog2> this process works if i have a single user, and simply use the id_rsa file
[16:53] <gordonjcp> mydog2: that doesn't sound like a real path
[16:53] <gordonjcp> mydog2: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:54] <mydog2> i then tried to access the connection using ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa_foo ... and this didn't work...  i get an identify file not active
[16:54] <mydog2> error
[16:54] <gordonjcp> mydog2: none of that sounds like sane behaviour
[16:54] <gordonjcp> mydog2: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:54] <mydog2> mrrcp,  - that's correct
[16:54] <nick688> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lilo -M /dev/sda mbr Backup copy of /dev/sda in /boot/boot.0800 The Master Boot Record of  /dev/sda  has been updated.
[16:55] <nick688> is this correct  _
[16:55] <nick688> ?
[16:55] <SpeedFire_laptop> Nobody have an idea how to fix a touchpad cliking bug ?
[16:55] <gordonjcp> nick688: probably
[16:55] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - told you.. trying to have multiple/separate priv/pub key created so a user can login without a passwd to two different systems
[16:56] <gordonjcp> mydog2: so, ssh from one local system to two remote systems?
[16:56] <gordonjcp> mydog2: copy the same pubkey to both remote systems...
[16:56] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - i can use a single priv key.. i want multiple keys.. one for each system
[16:56] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - your solution works if i use the same priv key.. i do not want that..
[16:57] <gordonjcp> that's basically not a sane way to do it
[16:57] <gordonjcp> one system, one private key
[16:58] <SpeedFire_laptop> Nobody have an idea how to fix a touchpad cliking bug ?
[16:58] <mrrcp> how do i block root users from logging in on 12.04
[16:58] <mrrcp> on ssh
[16:58] <mnemonicj> how can i install a shell without root access?
[16:58] <mnemonicj> i'd rather never have to invoke sudo
[16:58] <jrib> mrrcp: why do you say "users" with an 's'?  There is only one root user
[16:59] <nick688> FlexNet detected
[16:59] <jrib> mnemonicj: you can't use apt without root access (usually gained using sudo)
[16:59] <mnemonicj> thanks jrib
[17:01] <mrrcp> well root user
[17:01] <nick688> see u
[17:01] <nick688> rebooting
[17:01] <SpeedFire_laptop> Nobody have an idea how to fix a touchpad cliking bug ?
[17:01] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - then you don't get what i want... there are plenty of reasons to use multiple keys.. but that's what i'm shooting for..
[17:01] <jrib> mrrcp: then read about PermitRootLogin in « man sshd_config »
[17:02] <mrrcp> ive read it
[17:02] <mrrcp> its not working
[17:02] <jrib> mrrcp: what exactly did you try?
[17:03] <mrrcp> i placed  PermitRootLogin no  into /etc/sshd.
[17:03] <mrrcp> ,...
[17:03] <mrrcp> uh i figured it out lol
[17:03] <mrrcp> wrong file
[17:03] <jrib> mrrcp: /etc/sshd is a directory
[17:04] <jrib> mrrcp: ok
[17:05] <Plouj> zykotick9: I'm not really talking about any problems. I just asked how to pass a -j flag to make when building a kernel.
[17:05] <Plouj> I think we might be talking about different things.
[17:08] <zabi2> im having a green tint on pictures with default picture viewer on 13.04, shotwell shows pictures properly how can i fix this?
[17:08] <DarthEaron> so i used the comman pkill --kill -u zp to log off... mow i cantlog in. when i do im greeted with the
[17:12] <DarthEaron> so i logged out using the command pkill --kill -u zp...i cant log in now. i type my password at the gui and my screen goes black as if to log in but i return to the login again
[17:12] <DarthEaron> anyone know how to fix this?
[17:14] <loa> DarthEaron, i will try give restart for login manager
[17:14] <zykotick9> Plouj: why do you need 10 concurrent threads exactly?  does it working without the -j?  AND, if you use Lucid (desktop) then you can't ask for support in #ubuntu...
[17:15] <DarthEaron> loa: well its liited to one user and i have restarted my computer several times and the same thing is going on
[17:15] <benedict_> hi, what's the default instant messenger that comes with lxde?
[17:19] <loa> DarthEaron, then something saved in your home folder
[17:19] <loa> try to remove for example or set 0777 to it .Xauthority
[17:20] <loa> DarthEaron, anyway try inspect your logs)
[17:23] <DarthEaron> loa; sure, i can log in from tty. what would you need to see?
[17:23] <zykotick9> DarthEaron: fyi, a common cause of the issue you describe is caused by using "sudo" with GUI apps, ALWAYS use gksudo for GUI apps (if this applies to you).
[17:23] <loa> what login manager you have?
[17:24] <DarthEaron> loa: gnome-shell
[17:24] <loa> gdm maybe?
[17:24] <ab3e> Hi, I have a HUGE problem I forget a . while using chown as root. Im screwed. But I have a 18days old bakup. How can I make a script that changes the owners and groups to the right ones with the help of the backup ?
[17:26] <DarthEaron> loa: how do i tell which one im using? its the default one
[17:26] <loa> lightdm then i think
[17:27] <loa> investigate this folder /var/log/lightdm/
[17:27] <StarFlower> Does ubuntu have a c++11 compiler?
[17:27] <loa> for exaple x-0-greeter.log
[17:28] <jrib> ab3e: man chmod, read about --reference
[17:29] <sorakun_> StarFlower: you can always download one that suite your needs
[17:29] <sorakun_> i think clang is what you need
[17:30] <loa> DarthEaron, http://askubuntu.com/questions/300682/what-represent-xauthority-file
[17:30] <faugusztin> StarFlower: http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html
[17:30] <faugusztin> StarFlower: and http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.8/cxx0x_status.html
[17:30] <tinlee> is any1 here?
[17:30] <pranav> if i ssh to an ldap server machine without local credentials, but the credentials that exist in ldap database entries. pam will log me in to the ldap server machine. i am a bit confuse. so, how to login to other machines ?
[17:31] <DarthEaron> loa: which usernae would go ware... root:zp
[17:31] <loa> your username and group
[17:31] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', but whenever I boot from cold it starts just fine?
[17:32] <tinlee> im new bird
[17:32] <tinlee> i need help about php
[17:32] <tinlee> who can help me ?
[17:32] <rypervenche> tinlee: What do you need help with?
[17:32] <DarthEaron> loa: okay i need to logout to try this
[17:33] <DarthEaron> it worked great. THANKS!!!!
[17:33] <serban> so i did something wrong, tried to install libnotify4, the hit apt-get install -f which removed a lot of packages. How do i cancel the libnotify install so i can install xfce4 back?
[17:34] <bwayne_> hi guys. looks like I've managed to lock up Unity. is there a restartX or similar command?
 seems to not restart X.
[17:35] <puff> bwayne_: kill gdm?  Or whatever unity replaced gdm with...
[17:36] <bwayne_> thx puff. i'll try that.
[17:36] <zykotick9> bwayne_: ctrl-alt-backspace isn't enabled by default.  can you login to ctrl+alt+f1?  if so try "sudo service lightdm restart" or gdm/kdm if you use those instead.
[17:37] <bwayne_> zykotick9: yeah. I'm on tty2 right now. i'll give it a whirl. thx.
[17:37] <bejker> bwayne_: press ctrl+alt+F1 you go to tt1 and then log in to root and stop gdm
[17:38] <bejker> then start gdm and press ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to X
[17:38] <zykotick9> bejker: "log in to root" is never the right answer for ubuntu...
[17:38] <zykotick9> bejker: further, ubuntu uses lightdm not gdm by default
[17:38] <bejker> zykotick9:  how u want stop service as user?
[17:38] <zykotick9> bejker: using sudo...
[17:38] <bejker> sudo = root whats diferent?
[17:38] <Fuchs> bwayne_: alt + sysrq (prtsc) + k would restart it as ctrl alt backspace did, that's just a minor sidenote, though
[17:39] <bwayne_> okay. got it all back. thx guys. rhythmbox plugin bork bork bork.
[17:39] <k1l> !sudo | bejker
[17:39] <puff> bwayne_: Personally I find ctrl-alt-backspace a pain, I more often restart by accident than anything, but if you want it, install the dontzap package.
[17:39] <bejker> k1l:  i know for what is sudo
[17:39] <zykotick9> Fuchs: i've never had much luck with alt+sysrq+k X rarely comes back.
[17:39] <puff> Hm, dontzap appears to have gone away.
[17:39] <puff> bwayne_: Hm, dontzap appears to have gone away.
[17:39] <bwayne_> puff: doing it manually doesn't bother me.
[17:40] <k1l> bejker: there is no activated root account on a ubuntu machine. so the ubuntu way is to use sudo
[17:40] <puff> bwayne_: Cool.
[17:40] <bejker> k1l:  but for me is no diferent to use sudo command or sudo -i and then command
[17:40] <splic> Hello, I have a persistant liveCD that has locked up, is there any way to power it off gracefully (without corrupting it's state)? The screen still does not turn on and I've checked my router and it has a DHCP lease, but does not respond to ping/ssh. Thank you.
[17:40] <puff> bwayne_: Also, this is neat: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=787
[17:40] <testnickname2345> I have Ubuntu Server installed. I have a video game server running in a telnet window that gives me updates me to errors and what not. If I bring up a new telnet window can I open that game server from that window to watch the server messages?
[17:40] <k1l> bejker: please stick to the ubuntu way in here. especially  when its advised to beginners
[17:40] <Fuchs> testnickname2345: you probably want tmux or screen
[17:41] <zykotick9> !reisub | splic you can try this
[17:41] <testnickname2345> Fuchs thanks ill look into tmux
[17:41] <splic> zykotick9: Thank you
[17:41] <puff> Hm, I'm having problems getting netflix-desktop to run on raring.  It just silently fails, does nothing.  I can't find any sort of --verbose or -debug option to give me more info.
[17:42] <Fuchs> testnickname2345: basically you can open a tmux session, start whatever (e.g. the gameserver) in it, then you can attach/detach to and from that session from ssh (I assume not telnet) sessions
[17:42] <puff> testnickname2345: screen is awesome and tmux is screen's chosen successor.
[17:42] <moorvogi> i can't get ubuntu to join a .local domain. i've changed avahi's config so its .alocal instead of local and still no go. i can ping the dc but if i put in the FQDN of the dc... it wont ping. any thoughts?
[17:43] <testnickname2345> puff so you think screens is better?
[17:43] <bwayne> thx for the help guys. you really came through.
[17:44] <testnickname2345> puff if i can't get this stuff to work is there a normal way to send commands to a running service that doesn't have focus in my current screen?
[17:45] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', but whenever I boot from cold it starts just fine? I've tried reinstalling grub, but to no avail. And when I try holding shift to enter the grub menu after rebooting, no menu, still the kernel panic
[17:45] <puff> testnickname2345: No, I think tmux is better.  So does the guy who maintains screen.
[17:46] <puff> testnickname2345: tmux is basically a from-the-ground-up rewrite of screen, with cleaner internals and hence easier to maintan and extend.
[17:46] <Achi||es> hi
[17:46] <Achi||es> i repaired boot on ubuntu at last
[17:46] <testnickname2345> puff got it thanks :)
[17:46] <Achi||es> but i cant connect to other network via xchat
[17:47] <puff> testnickname2345: I'm unclear what you want to do, re: sending commands etc.
[17:47] <Achi||es> hi
[17:48] <Achi||es> it says misspelled
[17:48] <Achi||es> unknown network :S
[17:48] <Achi||es> doesnt /server -m irc.network.com  work here ?
[17:48] <Achi||es> on xCHat ?
[17:48] <testnickname2345> puff example in one screen instance I open a java -jar minecraft.jar is there a way in another screen to send a server command to that running proccess
[17:48] <puff> testnickname2345: Screen and tmux are what you call virtual terminal software.  Terminal meaning tty.  Virtual meaning that screen or tmux run on top of the OS and pretend to be a terminal.
[17:49] <whoever> hi all need some help with libusb. I am installing razercfg, and i keep gettting  Could not find library "libusb-1.0" with header libusb.h
[17:49] <whoever> when i run cmake
[17:49] <whoever> and i installed libusb from the repos , can someon asssist
[17:49] <puff> testnickname2345: The original main use for screen was equivalent to what you now do by opening multiple GUI terminal windows and running telnet in each one.
[17:49] <Achi||es> hello ?
[17:49] <whoever> Achi||es: hello
[17:50] <Achi||es> i cant connect to another network from xchat
[17:50] <Achi||es> how can i ?
[17:50] <Achi||es> the command /server -m irc.icq.com doesnt work
[17:50] <puff> testnickname2345: Back In The Day you couldn't open multiple terminals, and in particular you were using a single app, controllnig dialup connection, to get to the unix server.  You weren't connecting to the unix server via TCP/IP but rather via a non-multiplexed modem connection.
[17:50] <serban> phew, just panic'd a bit. Where does ubuntu store the logs of packages that were installed/removed/etc?
[17:51] <puff> testnickname2345: So you'd run screen and then screen would provide multiple windows, each running their own shell prompt.  You switch between windows by hitting a control key.
[17:51] <zykotick9> serban: check /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:52] <puff> testnickname2345: But the other really nifty thing screen could do is detach/reattach, sou you could detach, drop the connection, and later on reconnect and reattach the screen session and everything is still running.
[17:52] <testnickname2345> puff wow thank god for multiple proccesses
[17:52] <serban> ty
[17:53] <puff> testnickname2345: Yeah, well screen is basically funneling and multiplexing multiple processes through a single dialup connection.  These days we connect to everything via tcp/ip, so we don't need it as much, but I still find it invaluable for detach/reattach.
[17:53] <testnickname2345> puff oh wait does that mean if i close a telnet season from my windows it will close the server I booted using the telnet season
[17:53] <puff> testnickname2345: What sorts of commands do you want to send to the running process?
[17:53] <Achi||es> am i invisible ?
[17:54] <testnickname2345> puff the word "stop"
[17:54] <puff> testnickname2345: Yes, unless you first run screen, which starts a screen session, and then in the screen's first window, you run the server.
[17:54] <testnickname2345> puff or the work "op player"
[17:54] <puff> testnickname2345: Did you write the java code yourself?
[17:54] <zykotick9> testnickname2345: telnet should be avoided at all costs (passwords are sent in clear text), you REALLY should look into ssh (putty is a win client).
[17:54] <puff> testnickname2345: Yeah, what zykotick9 said.
[17:55] <testnickname2345> puff no its a pretty well knowen game. although i have made a few plugins for it
[17:55] <puff> testnickname2345: Generally speaking, most programs, you communicate with them via sockets.
[17:55] <puff> testnickname2345: So do you want to write a program to send these commands, or what?
[17:56] <testnickname2345> puff ya but not when your on the machine your communicating with
[17:56] <puff> testnickname2345: If you're on the machine you're communicating with, why are you telnetting?
[17:56] <testnickname2345> puff oh umm telnet or no tell net
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: Sorry, were you referring to my comment about sockets?  if so, then no, most programs use sockets even within the same machine.
[17:57] <testnickname2345> telnet just allows me to use the computer from up stairs
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: Well, ports.
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: it's still a really bad idea to use telnet.
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345:  Especially if you're using wireless.
[17:57] <whoever> and i can locate libusb.h  and it returns : locate libusb.h
[17:57] <whoever> /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: Defense in depth.
[17:57] <testnickname2345> puff wow that intresting never new sockets where used that way. I only used them for coding stuff for internet / network
[17:58] <puff> testnickname2345: What languages/platforms?
[17:58] <testnickname2345> puff just java stuff
[17:58] <locsmif_> Hi all. I was looking at https://launchpad.net/whosthere , which was supposed to be Ubuntu's portal to Whatsapp, but it says "discontinued". Okay... a bit terse.. So is there an alternative?
[17:59] <testnickname2345> puff bit of php VBScript and a insainly small amount of C++
[17:59] <puff> testnickname2345:  okay, so if you use tomcat, the default config (which you should change by the way) is for tomcat to listen on port 8005 for requests to tomcat to shutdown.
[18:00] <testnickname2345> puff tomcat being what a alternative to telnet for controlling the machine downstairs?
[18:00] <gordonjcp> testnickname2345: don't use telnet, use ssh
[18:00] <puff> testnickname2345: And the default arrangement to use tomcat (which is not a good idea these days, by the way :-) is to run an apache server and have the apache server serve all the static data, and forward servlet engine traffic to tomcat via apache mod_proxy, over port 8009.
[18:01] <puff> testnickname2345: No, tomcat being the most common java web application server, I was trying to give you examples you'd be familiar with.
[18:01] <puff> testnickname2345: What gordonjcp said.
[18:01] <gordonjcp> testnickname2345: telnet has significant horrible problems
[18:01] <gordonjcp> although to be fair, you don't have to worry about the NSA backdooring your crypto
[18:02] <gordonjcp> so, there's *that*
[18:02] <puff> testnickname2345: Never use telnet to connection from one machine to another machine, even if you're inside a secure network - because you're wrong if you think you are.
[18:02] <testnickname2345> gordonjcp puff good to know
[18:02] <puff> testnickname2345: Using telnet is like communicating with your bank via postcards.
[18:02] <gordonjcp> telnet is *great* for some things
[18:02] <puff> testnickname2345: Or more like communicating with your bank via smoke signals.  ANYBODY who bothers to look can see what you're saying.
[18:02] <gordonjcp> just bear in mind that there is effectively no authentication and no encryption
[18:03] <gordonjcp> telnet is *fine* if you don't care about that
[18:04] <testnickname2345> gordonjcp actually I was planning on using it over the internet so you might have saved me allot of greif
[18:04] <gordonjcp> testnickname2345: yeah, use ssh if it's going to be public-facing
[18:04] <testnickname2345> gordonjcp puff I know almost nothing about internet security lol
[18:04] <puff> testnickname2345: Okay, so... if you need to run this server, then a) run it under screen or tmux so you can detach and reattach.  b) if you need to write something to automatically interact with this server, check out the expect tool.
[18:05] <testnickname2345> puff will do I'll go do some reading on tmux
[18:05] <testnickname2345> puff thanks again
[18:07] <puff> testnickname2345: There are also tools like puppet, chef, etc, but from what little I know of them, they are not intended to handle interactive stuff.
[18:07] <yenal> hi is it possible to resolve the pixel color of a specific region with autokey (couldnt find any command in http://autokey.sourceforge.net/apidoc/)
[18:07] <Sc0rp10n> hi everyone
[18:08] <Sc0rp10n> I am using lubuntu for os and my last update screwed my chromium browser
[18:08] <Sc0rp10n> can someone help me plz
[18:08] <justin1987> hi all
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> I tried getting the updates and it failed
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> so I tried sudo apt-get install -f
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> and it kinda screwed my chromium browser
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> I can't see any address bar in chromium now
[18:10] <Sc0rp10n> no wrench icon, no extensions
[18:10] <Sc0rp10n> plz help
[18:10] <drfaustus> i can't type in arabic anymore
[18:11] <Ubuntivity> drfaustus: Do you have a problem with Arabic?
[18:12] <drfaustus> Ububegin: yea,i can't type
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> !arabic
[18:12] <yenal> is it possible to resolve the pixel color of a specific region with autokey (couldnt find any command in http://autokey.sourceforge.net/apidoc/)
[18:12] <Ubuntivity> MonkeyDust: Maybe he is having a problem with keyboard layouts
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntivity  drfaustus my mistake, was supposed to be /msg ubottu
[18:13] <Ubuntivity> drfaustus: you may PM me if you like, I'm an Arabic user :)
[18:13] <drfaustus> Ubuntivity: yea
[18:13] <Ubuntivity> drfaustus: Are you using Ubuntu in Arabic interface or English interface?
[18:13] <drfaustus> MonkeyDust: never mind
[18:13] <locsmif_> Is there a whatsapp for Ubuntu which is not discontinued?
[18:14] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', but whenever I boot from cold it starts just fine? I've tried reinstalling grub, but to no avail. And when I try holding shift to enter the grub menu after rebooting, no menu, still the kernel panic
[18:15] <Guest72322> I'm trying to find the easiest way to get addition hard drives to be mounted at bootup....I use to use mount manager but it doesn't seem to be available in 13.10....any other easy ways besides modifying fstab?
[18:15] <justin1987> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> Guest72322  13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[18:16] <sangohan> Hello, somebody know how to set the suspend mode to more than one hour (the selector stop to one hour in the graphical interface)
[18:16] <Rory> !13.10 | Guest72322
[18:18] <sangohan> *standby mode
[18:19] <sangohan> i'm running on 13.04
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> sangohan  you want the computer to suspend after more than one hour? if yes, use the command 'sleep' -- in a terminal, type    man sleep    to see how it's used
[18:20] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I setup multiple IP addresses for a NIC?  I have servers that I need multi IPs, and multi DNS servers
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> N
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question if i use nmap to scan my gateway router/modem is it normal that it has a whole bunch of open prots
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> like port 5000 open and 9000 or something
[18:22] <sangohan> MonkeyDust, i want the PC to stand by in automatic like it done when configuring 'Energy' in System Parameter, but the selector stop at one hour not more
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> its wierd
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> when i nmap
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> some of the ports open say unknown
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> how bizzare.
[18:26] <ElFizbanio> what was the ubuntu 12.04 network manager package?
[18:26] <luky> hallo, can someone help me out please, horde webmail is not updating db scheme. URL /timeobjects/admin/config/index.php was not found
[18:26] <luky> can someone help? if i press the update db scheme button this error appears but i dont know where to get this file
[18:27] <luky> the whole /config folder dont exits
[18:27] <Ubuntivity> What is the default Ubuntu input method? xim or ibus?
[18:28] <locsmif_> Psil0Cybin: you're scanning from the inside
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> yea realized
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> ill use my VPN to scan
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> ;)
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[18:28] <locsmif_> Have you run nmap with service detection?
[18:28] <Sc0rp10n> the address bar in chromium in missing, any way to fix it? I tried reinstalling it as well
[18:28] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> no i have not, what is the command for that i just did nmap -v <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:29] <Ubuntivity> Sorry about repeating my question, but What is the default Ubuntu input method? xim or ibus?
[18:29] <locsmif_> Psil0Cybin: consider running nmap with service detection, then google the service names discovered.
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> alright thanks
[18:29] <locsmif_> Psil0Cybin: I'll send you the command in a private notice.
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> thank you locsmif_
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> you are the man!
[18:30] <locsmif_> heh, you're welcome, no worries.
[18:30] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Can you try logging in as a different user, or as the guest user, and seeing if the problem also occurs on that account?
[18:30] <drfaustus> i can't type in arabic
[18:30] <abc_> Is there a program (preferable GUI) for copying large amounts of data between two NTFS mounted partitions? I'd like an integrity check, too. I heard about rsync, is that an option?
[18:31] <Pici> !details | drfaustus
[18:31] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: alright I'll try that
[18:31] <whoever> hi all , I am tring to install razercfg http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html  but when i run cmake . , I am getting an error that cmake cannot find libusb ]-1.0 libusb. h. however i can find it with locate libusb.h but still get the same error from cmake, can someone assist?
[18:31] <Rory> drfaustus: Neither can I. Can you speak Arabic? (jk)
[18:32] <Ubuntivity> Rory: He is probably having conflict between xim and ibus
[18:32] <Rory> whoever: Could you put the full error onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:32] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: yea the problem is still there
[18:32] <Rory> Ubuntivity: I just need to work out where the problem lies; on his account or with some part of his system
[18:32] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: its weird cause it's showing the address bar in incognito window but missing in normal mode
[18:32] <Rory> OK Sc0rp10n can you just let me know what Ubuntu version you're using? You can use the command "cat /etc/issue" if you don't know
[18:32] <Ubuntivity> Rory: drfaustus uses xfce on his Ubuntu 13.04
[18:33] <Ubuntivity> Rory: and he (drfaustus) gets an error that suggest a conflict between ibus and xim, preventing him to switch layout to Arabic.
[18:33] <whoever> Rory: http://pastebin.com/QNLGFRXM
[18:33] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: I'm using Lubuntu 13.04
[18:33] <Rory> Thanks Ubuntivity I thought you were talking about Sc0rp10n
[18:33] <NewbieNo1> hello, when I installed fglrx-updates and before restarting I could use fn+f7 and fn+f8 on my toshiba laptop to change the brightness, but after I restarted they no longer worked. Hoever brightness can still be changed from the panel
[18:34] <Rory> whoever: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[18:34] <whoever> Rory: 12.04 64bit
[18:35] <Ubuntivity> Rory: do you think that xim and ibus might conflict with each other?
[18:35] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Please can you run the command: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[18:35] <ESPGuillermo> hi
[18:35] <ESPGuillermo> is this the place for general ubuntu chat?
[18:35] <Rory> NewbieNo1: That will open a file in a text editor. Find the line that says GRUB_CMLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[18:35] <Rory> !ot | ESPGuillermo
[18:36] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Change it to say GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[18:36] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Then run the command "sudo update-grub" and reboot
[18:36] <Rory> whoever: sudo apt-get install libusb-dev
[18:37] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: gonna restart ubuntu
[18:37] <NewbieNo1> rory don't you mean GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quit splash"
[18:37] <whoever> Rory: libuub-1.0-0-dev is already installed
[18:38] <Rory> NewbieNo1: No, I mean "quiet" as in "be quiet please, Linux"
[18:38] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Please put it exactly as I have; copy and paste it
[18:38] <NewbieNo1> my grub file contains "quit splash" not "quit splash" really
[18:39] <NewbieNo1> should I replace it by "quiet" before trying what you say?
[18:39] <Ubuntivity> NewbieNo1: it should be 'quiet splash' with an E
[18:39] <Rory> NewbieNo1: It will say "quiet splash" at the moment. You need to change it to say "quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[18:40] <NewbieNo1> ok
[18:40] <Sc0rp10n> Rory, I restarted Lubuntu but the issue is still there but I got a crash report
[18:40] <Ubuntivity> Rory: does XFCE use the same input method as Unity? or it needs to have a different one?
[18:41] <NewbieNo1>  $ sudo update-grub
[18:41] <NewbieNo1> /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 35: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[18:41] <Sc0rp10n> is there a way to copy the contents of the crash report?
[18:41] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Have you considered asking in #lubuntu to see if it's a specific issue with that? Also you may need to reinstall chromium more completely by using the command: sudo apt-get remove --purge chromium
[18:41] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: It depends where you are seeing the crash report
[18:41] <loadid_czech> NewbieNo1: looks like you have a syntax error in your /etc/default/grub file
[18:41] <NewbieNo1> loadid_czech: can I do something about it?
[18:42] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Please can you run the first command again and paste your entire /etc/default/grub onto http://paste.ubuntu.com so I can see it
[18:42] <loadid_czech> paste your /etc/default/grub file for me to have a look at
[18:42] <loadid_czech> paste your /etc/default/grub file for us* to have a look at
[18:42] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Then I will modify it for you, and give you a modified one to paste back
[18:42] <Sc0rp10n> alright thanks Rory
[18:42] <NewbieNo1> rory ok
[18:43] <NewbieNo1> ruby I corrected the mistake
[18:43] <NewbieNo1> there were two quote marks
[18:43] <NewbieNo1> I removed one and now I'm updating grub, thank you
[18:43] <whoever> Rory: any ideas
[18:43] <Ruby> I guess this works too
[18:44] <Rory> whoever: OK I'm looking for you
[18:44] <Rory> whoever: Can you please run sudo updatedb && locate libusb.h
[18:45] <Rory> whoever: Also delete the file in the source code directory called CMakeCache.txt
[18:45] <zgr> Hello guys, I have desktop PC with onboard HD4200 and pci express HD7850 GPUs, running open source radeon driver, is it possible to disable pci_express GPU on boot?
[18:45] <luky> hallo i have a big problem with mail server. horde mail server cant update imp configuration it always says that 404 not found URL /imp/login.php
[18:45] <whoever> Rory: it returned /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h
[18:45] <Rory> zgr: I believe that's something you have to set in your system's BIOS menu
[18:45] <Rory> whoever: Delete the file in the source code directory called CMakeCache.txt
[18:46] <loadid_czech> luky: sounds like the configuration file is looking for /imp/login.php but it doesn't exist
[18:46] <zgr> Rory: I don't have such option, i mean where is gpu priority, but it simply doesn't works
[18:46] <Sc0rp10n> is there any advantage of using Lubuntu over Ubuntu? I just started using it cause I read online that it's a lighter version of ubuntu
[18:46] <zgr> there*
[18:46] <Sc0rp10n> but I have been having issues with it
[18:46] <polter> Sc0rp10n: what issues?
[18:46] <loadid_czech> Sc0rp10n: lubuntu works better with slower/older hardware
[18:46] <whoever> Rory: ok, cmakecache deleted
[18:46] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: They use different window managers. Lubuntu uses LXDE and Ubuntu uses Unity. LXDE is more lightweight and traditional than Unity
[18:46] <luky> loadid_czech: thats right but where can i get the config file?
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> I'm using a mac book pro
[18:47] <loadid_czech> Sc0rp10n: i would suggest using ubuntu then, your hardware is powerful enough for it
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> like it updates itself on every restart, more frequent crashed
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> crashes*
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> I'm using running it virtually though
[18:48] <NewbieNo1> ok it didn't work, after rebooting my screen is 100% bright (ouch) and I can't change the brightness from the panel, here's my grub file: http://pastebin.com/DTZdXY6m
[18:48] <Sc0rp10n> using Parallels to run it
[18:48] <NewbieNo1> when I hover over the panel brightness changes it says "no device found"
[18:49] <polter> Sc0rp10n: try installing the ubuntu-desktop package to get the full Ubuntu distro, and see if that helps. You can always save a snapshot in you virtualization software before just in case it doesn't work out
[18:49] <Sc0rp10n> wait! polter, is it possible to port over all my work and settings to ubuntu?
[18:49] <loadid_czech> maybe is in the account settings luky?
[18:49] <locsmif_> Is there a whatsapp for Ubuntu which is not discontinued?
[18:50] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: sidenote/workaround you might want to check out redshift?
[18:50] <polter> Sc0rp10n: Lubuntu is just a set of packages really. If you install "ubuntu-desktop" in Lubuntu, it will install everything that is needed to make your Lubuntu install a Ubuntu install
[18:50] <polter> you don't have to uninstall or remove anything
[18:50] <Sc0rp10n> aw sweet!!
[18:51] <Sc0rp10n> I'm gonna do that
[18:51] <Sc0rp10n> thanks polter , Rory , loadid_czech !!
[18:51] <luky> loadid_czech: in configuration -> users all that i want to klick wont work
[18:51] <luky> always 404 not found
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> ok I just got another error
[18:52] <Jordan_U> locsmif_: It looks like there is a whatsapp pidgin plugin that's still being maintained, I have no idea of its quality though.
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> it says the issue is with chromium-browser-l10n package
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> and I can't report it cause it's 3rd party
[18:52] <Jordan_U> locsmif_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333850/how-to-install-whatsapp-in-ubuntu
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> could this be the reason that my chomium is screwed up?
[18:53] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Are you using a PPA?
[18:53] <Sc0rp10n> dunno Rory
[18:53] <Sc0rp10n> how do I find that?
[18:53] <NewbieNo1> I changed it to what it was like before and restarted but I'm still unable to change brightness "no device found"
[18:54] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Can you please post the results of running the command: "sudo apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[18:54] <NewbieNo1> rory this is what you told me to do isn' it ?
[18:54] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.com/DTZdXY6m
[18:54] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Did you remember to run sudo update-grub after changing it?
[18:54] <Sc0rp10n> sure, thanks Rory
[18:54] <zykotick9> Rory: fyi, you can use ".. apt-get purge foo" less typing.
[18:54] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Yes that's right but I wasn't sure it would work; it was just something I needed to try
[18:54] <polter> Sc0rp10n: paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ not in chat, if theres more than a couple of lines
[18:55] <Rory> NewbieNo1: If I were sitting in front of your computer diagnosing it, I'd have tried that first, you see
[18:55] <locsmif_> Jordan_U: thanks
[18:55] <Sc0rp10n> sure polter
[18:55] <NewbieNo1> rory yes I updated grub
[18:56] <nick____> hi
[18:56] <NewbieNo1> rory ok what's the next step?
[18:56] <nick____> how to install gnome look into ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:56] <zykotick9> Rory: but, uninstall/reinstall is a windows troubleshooting method, rarely works in *nix-land (issue more likely in ~ which purge still doesn't touch)
[18:56] <Rory> NewbieNo1: The next step is I trawl pages of Debian bug reports from 2007, and mailing list archives for a bit
[18:56] <arayaq> nick____: what you mean with gnome look?
[18:57] <Rory> zykotick9: Often works.
[18:57] <nick____> gnome desktop look
[18:57] <Rory> zykotick9: I've established the issue affects multiple users
[18:57] <nick____> u know what i mean i think
[18:57] <arayaq> nick____: a theme?
[18:57] <nick____> arayaq:  no not theme
[18:57] <Sc0rp10n> there you go Rory and polter http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133999/
[18:57] <nick____> i dont like unity
[18:57] <arayaq> nick____: as far as I know Gnome Look is a website
[18:58] <nick____> i want gnome look of 10.04
[18:58] <zykotick9> !notunity | nick____
[18:58] <nick____> i want ubuntu look like gnome
[18:58] <NewbieNo1> is there any way to at least get back to being able to change the brightness from the panel?
[18:58] <nick____> ubottu:  yes i hate unity :S
[18:58] <k1l> nick____: see the bots message
[18:58] <nick____> ok
[18:58] <nick____> thx
[18:58] <polter> Sc0rp10n: that looks ok to me
[18:58] <nick____> i ll install gnome-panel
[18:59] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: didn't you add vendor, or something, to grub.conf?
[18:59] <NewbieNo1> yes I added that
[18:59] <NewbieNo1> but didn't work
[18:59] <Sc0rp10n> yea polter
[18:59] <arayaq> nick____: yes, and at login chose to use Gnome Classic
[18:59] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Yes. You can remove the part that says backlight=vendor or whatever, and then run sudo update-grub
[18:59] <gammarb> hi all, can anyone tell me if there's a way to find out what date i installed my distro?
[18:59] <nick____> arayaq:
[18:59] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: so take it out, to get it back.  remember to run "sudo update-grub" after making your changes!
[18:59] <nick____> should i install via marketplace of ubuntu ?
[18:59] <Sc0rp10n> it's weird cause I can see the address bar in incognito for chromium but not in normal mode polter
[19:00] <nick____> i mean appstore ?
[19:00] <bejker> nick____:  try instal kde maby will by more friendly for you than gnome unity :)
[19:00] <NewbieNo1> rory I did that as well, but I still can't change the brightnes
[19:00] <wafflejock> nick____: you can use apt-get believe the app store will work fine too
[19:00] <nick____> no
[19:00] <nick____> i like ubuntu 10.04
[19:00] <nick____> which was classic
[19:00] <wafflejock> nick____: also I second bejker been running kubuntu now after checking out KDE from within Ubuntu decided to ditch Unity
[19:00] <nick____> 11.10 was not bad also
[19:00] <arayaq> nick____: if you want to. There's no important differente from using apt-get or the store
[19:00] <Rory> !mate | nick____
[19:00] <nick____> but i hate after that
[19:01] <NewbieNo1> thsi is what my grub file looks like now: http://pastebin.com/ezxJkvkX
[19:01] <bejker> wafflejock:  i have ubuntu 12.04 with KDE so is kubuntu? or ubuntu still?:P
[19:01] <zykotick9> nick____: 10.04 desktop is EOL (face facts), use gnome3's fallback/classic whatever it's called - if you want a similar environment.  many went to xfce.
[19:01] <nick____> Rory:  u made me mate ? :p
[19:01] <Rory> Do we not have Mate factoid? nick____ there is a desktop environment called Mate which is a fork of Gnome 2 http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#ubuntu
[19:01] <wafflejock> bejker: ubuntu + KDE I would call it since you still have all the unity dependencies around
[19:01] <Sc0rp10n> where can I find the actual executable for any application?
[19:01] <wafflejock> bejker: I'm on SSD so strapped for space
[19:01] <polter> Sc0rp10n: and the address bar doesn't show up if you click a tab?
[19:01] <nick____> zykotick9:  it was simple and smooth, also sophisticated
[19:02] <Rory> nick____: It's over though. We lost. We have to use Mate and XFCE
[19:02] <nick____> i hate looking at unity bar left of the screen at the moment :p
[19:02] <polter> Sc0rp10n: because you can set a flag in chromium to enable compact mode which hides the toolbar
[19:02] <Sc0rp10n> nope polter, no address bar, no extension icons or wrench icon
[19:02] <bejker> wafflejock: uuu when u use SSD swap move to other disk
[19:02] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Hit F11
[19:02] <zykotick9> nick____: personally i went gnome2->my_wm-only_roots.  rip gnome2.  but, move on ;)
[19:02] <nick____> it is not nice they are forcing ppl for unity
[19:03] <polter> Sc0rp10n: try CTRL+ALT+B in Chromium
[19:03] <wafflejock> nick____: it's not forced it's just pushed
[19:03] <zykotick9> !ot | nick____
[19:03] <nick____> really it looks ugly on the left :S
[19:03] <k1l> nick____: dont think everyone got the same taste like you.
[19:03] <wafflejock> nick____: I think Unity looks nice but I missed the ability to customize things
[19:03] <nick____> ok ok i ll go offtopic :p
[19:03] <deflower> lol
[19:04] <k1l> nick____: you were helped with your issue. so please keep this channel clear for support and not flaming and ranting
[19:04] <nick____> i m there kll thx
[19:04] <sauerbraten> Is it possible to get a package included into the official ubuntu repositories? If so, how?
[19:04] <k1l> !msg ubottu !motu
[19:05] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: yes, but it has to meet a very high standard
[19:05] <k1l> !motu
[19:05] <nick____> i installed this --->  Launcher and docking facility for GNOME
[19:05] <nick____> is this correct ?
[19:05] <whoever> Rory: thx it was that cachefile that was included
[19:05] <zykotick9> sauerbraten: your best bet, is start a ppa.  try to get it into debian sid/experimental would be another way... /me chuckles
[19:05] <dartos> Has anyone here set up a virtual server under an Ubuntu host? I'm using the bridged connection in virtualbox but my virtual server can't get an IP address. It seems to have an IPv6 one but not IPv4
[19:05] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.com/ezxJkvkX
[19:06] <dartos> Does anyone know why this might be happening?
[19:06] <Rory> No problem whoever
[19:06] <sauerbraten> gordonjcp, zykotick9: What I would like to have added is already included, just in a really old version. I'm a big fan of the game sauerbraten (partly the reason behind my name). I'd like to see the updated version included in the repos.
[19:06] <Rory> dartos: Please /join #vbox for Virtualbox user support
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> dartos  sounds like a setting error, try asking in #virtualbox
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> Rory  was faster :)
[19:06] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: chat to the package maintainer
[19:07] <dartos> MonkeyDust: oh okay. I thought it was something with ubuntu. Thanks!
[19:07] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: sidenote: i don't go to pastebin.com, if you repaste/use paste.ubuntu.com i can see too.
[19:07] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: if they won't upgrade it, perhaps you can take the package, make your own, and create a PPA
[19:07] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: ok..
[19:07] <nick____> another question is , is it possible to customize unity ?
[19:07] <Sc0rp10n> polter the shortcut you mentioned doesn't do anything
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> nick____  try unity-tweak-tool
[19:07] <wafflejock> nick____: you can verify at the command line easily, Ctrl+Alt+T for a terminal type "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell -s"
[19:07] <gordonjcp> nick____: customise in what way?
[19:07] <nick____> ok MonkeyDust
[19:07] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6134045/
[19:07] <polter> Sc0rp10n: does running "chromium-browser --temp-profile" change anything for you?
[19:08] <wafflejock> nick____: the -s means simulate won't actually install but should show if it is installed
[19:08] <nick____> gordonjcp:  shape, icon, position..etc
[19:08] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: I haven't played it for years, would have a shot now if the download wasn't so huge
[19:08] <gordonjcp> nick____: of what?
[19:08] <nick____> of unity bar
[19:08] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: could you see it?
[19:08] <Sc0rp10n> nope polter
[19:08] <gordonjcp> nick____: oh, you can set the icon size as long as you're not running unity-2d
[19:08] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: the only thing i see you loading is the default?  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[19:08] <bejker> i have 2 panels on desktop on the botom i have "K start button" and manager on top i have clock and programs and all the times when i turn os on thise panel on top of the screen is little lower than top of the screen and i need  manual change position of panel, any idea?
[19:09] <sauerbraten> gordonjcp: yes, ppa would be my best bet, but I'll try talking to a package maintainer first now. thanks
[19:09] <Sc0rp10n> Rory, I can't use f11 cause it changes the sound in mac. Weird
[19:09] <nick____> gordonjcp:   what about position ?
[19:09] <Sc0rp10n> even if I try it with command + f11
[19:09] <nick____> bottom, top , right .. instead of left ?
[19:09] <gordonjcp> nick____: you can rearrange the icons on it.  It's stuck to the left side.
[19:09] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: that's what it looks like now
[19:09] <wafflejock> nick____: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[19:09] <nick____> stucked ?
[19:09] <nick____> cant move it ?
[19:09] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: "cat /proc/cmdline" it's only 1 line - so to the channel.
[19:09] <gordonjcp> nick____: that's mildly annoying, but less so than having its equivalent along the bottom like in OSX
[19:10] <dman777_alter> anyone use uwsgi? how do i force it to use python 2.7?
[19:10] <nick____> really sucks
[19:10] <nick____> it is ugly , also cant move :S
[19:10] <polter> Sc0rp10n: you could probably clear out the cache and config folders for chromium.  That's /home/Sc0rp10n/.config/chromium and /home/Sc0rp10n/.cache/chromium but that will wipe all extensions, history... everything
[19:10] <Rory> I need to leave for a while.
[19:10] <gordonjcp> dman777_alter: it should run 2.7 by default, if that's what you've got installed
[19:11] <Impossible1> anyone familiar with namebench
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: <shrug>
[19:11] <polter> basically it will reset it
[19:11] <wafflejock> nick____: if you want to customize I really suggest just switching the DE, Unity isn't really geared towards the tweakers, it works well for general users I think
[19:11] <nashant> If anyone is interested as to why I was getting a kernel panic after reboot but not when booting from cold, when grub installed for some reason it didn't create a device map. So I ran grub-mkdevicemap and now I'm rebooting fine
[19:11] <zykotick9> !anyone > Impossible1
[19:11] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6134060/
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: maybe another DE is more like what you're after
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: what are you used to?
[19:11] <wafflejock> nick____: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[19:11] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: reboot!  acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:11] <Sc0rp10n> that's alright, polter
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: oh, you're already in #u-ot
[19:11] <nick____> gordonjcp:   i was use to use ubuntu before unity
[19:12] <wafflejock> nick____: http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:12] <nick____> and i dont like other versions of linux
[19:12] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: strange, I updated the grub
[19:12] <dman777_alter> gordonjcp: python --version shows Python 2.7.3. but when i run it i get the same error as i did in gentoo...-- unavailable modifier requested: 0 --....when it was using non python 2.7.*. gentoo had a special /usr/bin/uwsgi_python27
[19:12] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: did you run "sudo update-grub"?
[19:12] <wafflejock> nick____: pasted links above for KDE then Gnome configuration in Ubuntu
[19:12] <Impossible1> when i open name bench, under 'Nameservers' I see <IP_ADDRESS>. Should I change it to the DNS servers I have currently? or do i leave that
[19:12] <NewbieNo1> yes, and after that I restarted zykotick9
[19:12] <NewbieNo1> brb
[19:12] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: you are currently booted with acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:13] <bejker> Impossible1: <IP_ADDRESS> is local so dont change that
[19:13] <nick____> ok wafflejock  and other friends thank u a lot
[19:13] <nick____> i ll read all of them
[19:13] <wafflejock> nick____: if you find you like one more than Unity perhaps consider going with Kubuntu or installing Linux Mint (ubuntu fork) Mate instead
[19:13] <wafflejock> nick____: no problem I just had a DE meltdown myself so I know the feeling best of luck
[19:14] <nick____> wafflejock:   i dont like other themes or tweaks
[19:14] <nick____> i was in love with the look of 10.10
[19:14] <Impossible1> bejker thanks. It says <IP_ADDRESS> is the fastest primary and gives me a different secondary. SHould i change it to <IP_ADDRESS> in my router or is it says that i should leave the one i currently have
[19:14] <nick____> 10.04 too
[19:14] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: thx now I can change brightness with the panel brightness changes
[19:14] <nick____> maybe 11.04
[19:15] <bejker> Impossible1: <IP_ADDRESS> is not DNS thise is localhost
[19:15] <NewbieNo1> but I'd still would like to be able to do it with the fn keys like I could when I installed the driver
[19:16] <Sc0rp10n> hey polter, I removed everything but can't remove custom.css in .config/chromium/Default/User stylesheets/
[19:16] <wafflejock> nick____: I agree I am more fond of the older DEs but I can see the advantage of Unity for someone who is coming in fresh and knows nothing of Linux, it's friendly and everything is already set for you.  Ubuntu was also trying to become a one OS for all platforms system (still is) so I think that's a big reason for the UI choices (think tablet or phone)
[19:16] <bejker> Impossible1:  why you dont use dynDNS?
[19:16] <nick____> wafflejock:   look what i want  :   http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Ubuntu_10.10_preview.png
[19:16] <polter> Sc0rp10n: is chromium closed? try doing a "killall chromium-browser" to kill off any background processes
[19:17] <Impossible1> bejker i have never heard of that
[19:17] <k1l> nick____: fallback session /classic session is the best you can get
[19:17] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: SIDENOTE i actually use acpi_backlight=vendor to FIX my brighness controls on a couple of my EEE PCs, BUT there are other options with that!  you should search for acpi options, or bugs, online.  something there COULD fix things ;)  best of luck.
[19:17] <nick____> it was nice the thin bars at top and bottom
[19:17] <nick____> and nothing on desktop
[19:17] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive. Are there any precautions I need to take, or specific articles which I should read before making the transition? My data is backing up now.
[19:17] <k1l> nick____: but be aware that its cut off in some settings
[19:18] <k1l> nick____: i would suggest to take a look at xfce or lxde (xubuntu and lubuntu)
[19:18] <bejker> Impossible1:  dynamic DNS like you have DHCP dynamic IP adress thise work like that, give you best dynamic DNS
[19:18] <wafflejock> nick____: yup doing the Gnome-Shell install then picking that from the login screen (you'll have to logout) should get you back to what you're looking for basically... I can't strongly enough suggest checking out KDE though... it's been a long time since I even took a glance at it and it's really pretty awesome now
[19:18] <wafflejock> nick____: guess you're gonna hear everyones opinions on DE now :)
[19:18] <mikeman> Greetings! Where is a good place to go for general help for newbies....
[19:18] <nick____> wafflejock:  can u show me screenshot ?
[19:18] <nick____> or preview ?
[19:19] <Impossible1> bejker dynDNS is only if i have a dynamic ip?
[19:19] <bejker> mikeman:  here :)
[19:19] <polter> wafflejock: indeed KDE is pretty great nowadays
[19:19] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: ok, one last thing, what does acpi stand for?
[19:19] <bejker> Impossible1:  no, you can change manual to just have dynamic DNS
[19:19] <bejker> and static IP
[19:19] <mikeman> Excellent! Im a little ashamed to admit that just getting onto xchat was a bit of a challenge for me haha....
[19:19] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: advance control power interface (or something).... phone brb
[19:20] <bejker> mikeman:  i never use xchat, Thise is chanel ubuntu support not xchat :)
[19:20] <Sc0rp10n> hey polter, it didn't work but I think it's a different issue
[19:21] <mikeman> so in short, i think my shockwave player is out of date.... is there a generic way to update said player?
[19:21] <Sc0rp10n> but thanks for all your help polter
[19:21] <Sc0rp10n> gtg for lunch now
[19:21] <bejker> mikeman: apt-get update
[19:21] <polter> Sc0rp10n: aw that sucks. yeah no probs. I hope it works out
[19:21] <venux> What program controls gtk themes?  For instance, I've built a desktop environment and added it to the GDM sessions list, but when I go into it, I did not specify a gtk theme manager, so all apps look really bad.  I have xfwm, awn, xsettingsd, etc, but nothing regarding GTK what should I add to the session so that apps don't look terrible?
[19:21] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive. Are there any precautions I need to take, or specific articles which I should read before making the transition? My data is backing up now.
[19:21] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: acpi is your power management stuff.
[19:21] <nick____> brb - restarting
[19:22] <polter> venux: you can use the .gtkrc file for that I believe
[19:22] <venux> ok, thank you.
[19:22] <kostkon> mikeman, if you want the latest flash version then your only option is to use chrome
[19:22] <mikeman> apologies for the confusion... I was simply using getting on xchat as a example of my newbieness...
[19:22] <bejker> Griff|:  swap on other drive
[19:22] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: ;) i was close,  Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[19:22] <zykotick9>
[19:22] <Griff|> Swap on the SSD? Ofcourse.
[19:22] <wafflejock> oh well nick___ is gone but here's the shot of my current KDE setup http://snag.gy/kQjhA.jpg
[19:23] <bejker> Griff|:  no dont put swap on SSD
[19:23] <polter> venux: check out the ArchLinux wikipage on GTK: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GTK%2B
[19:23] <Griff|> Is there anything in the process which might be problematic for me? I'm by no means a guru, but I know my way around, just about.
[19:23] <kostkon> mikeman, adobe has stopped updating the linux version of the flash plugin. the only way to have the latest version is to use chrome
[19:23] <Griff|> Ohh? No?
[19:23] <AiriA> So does Ubuntu have a feature similar to Windows sever were I can span multiple drives?
[19:23] <Griff|> Why not?
[19:23] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: is there any way for me to change it so that i can use fn keys?
[19:23] <venux> I'll have a look, thanks polter
[19:24] <polter> venux: sure, good luck
[19:24] <mikeman> ok - i got some updates running, for chrome et all... so hopefully this resolves my isue
[19:24] <andyfied> AiriA: i happily set up a software raid in server
[19:24] <mikeman> thank you very much for you help
[19:24] <bejker> Griff|:  SSD have lifetime if you know and swap is all time read/write/erased you want to kill disk?
[19:24] <mikeman> err... your*
[19:24] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: probably!  but i don't know how, and i'd guess it's non-trivial.
[19:24] <kostkon> mikeman, but flash 11.2.x that ubuntu offers is good enough for 98% of the sites
[19:25] <Griff|> True... But 16gb of ram should surely be more than enough for the swap to rarely be used? Even so, I will take your advice and keep it on D:
[19:25] <lapt0p> Is there a way to get GPS data with your Android smartphone, and make it stream it to your Ubuntu? Curious to know :).
[19:25] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: if you are really interested, research xev for a starting point ;)
[19:25] <Griff|> keep it on the raid*
[19:25] <Triple15_> hhh
[19:25] <andyfied> AiriA: logical volume manager is what you want iirc
[19:25] <Triple15_> hallo könnt ihr mir helfen
[19:25] <wafflejock> lapt0p: you mean an app or are you looking for a programmable solution?
[19:25] <AiriA> On my windows server I spanned 2 drives to combine the space and make it appear as one drive. The reason why I am asking is I am considering updating my server to ubuntu server
[19:25] <Triple15_> hello i need help
[19:25] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: what is "xev" in the first place?
[19:26] <bejker> Griff|:  yes, but i dont know why a lot of programs use swap even the have free ram
[19:26] <andyfied> AiriA: logical volume manager will do it i believe
[19:26] <kostkon> mikeman, i mean chrome, not chromium. just pointing out the difference
[19:26] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: lol, find out.  "man xev"
[19:26] <Triple15_> can i install ubuntu on ps3
[19:26] <AiriA> Ok, thanks. I will look into that.
[19:26] <lapt0p> wafflejock: Have no idea, app or a programmable solution, whatever :D
[19:26] <andyfied> np
[19:26] <bejker> Triple15_:  yes u can
[19:26] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: so you know how to use xev but you don't actually know what it is?
[19:26] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: trust me, remaping the additional keys/fn keys - is gonna get ugly, probably quickly.
[19:26] <polter> bejker: didn't sony remove the option to boot Linux?
[19:27] <NewbieNo1> ok hten zykotick9
[19:27] <bejker> polter:  i have shell on ps3 :)
[19:27] <grex25> Is there a way to install ubuntu software center applications (I want IntelliJ) with apt-get? (Free apps, but bought for 0.00)
[19:27] <smaudet> Hey, having some problems with uefi boots, already tried the manual at !uefi, didn't work, thanks
[19:27] <wafflejock> wafflejock: You can use Lookout which will find your phone location and can be accessed via a web browser so any OS will do, alternatively you could transmit the data via an IP (if both devices share a network).  Google is supposedly introducing a find my phone feature into an upcoming version of the OS as well
[19:27] <wafflejock> oops lapt0p I meant :)
[19:27] <andyfied> AiriA: if LVM doesn't help then you can always try to set up a raid with the terminal, it's really not too hard :)
[19:27] <luky> can someone help me with my mailserver i cant get emails only sending is possible
[19:27] <luky> dont know where the error is
[19:27] <AiriA> I guess as long as it does the same thing
[19:27] <smaudet> To restate my question: what issues might I be having stopping me from booting ubuntu 13.04 at all? Its a lenovo g700 with intel hd 4000 graphics, if that helps at all
[19:28] <wafflejock> lapt0p: alternatively you can use Google Latitude which shares your location though I'm not sure if there's an API or way to access that data
[19:28] <zykotick9> grex25: search for the package name from terminal "apt-cache search foo" replace foo with whatever you want to search for.
[19:28] <wafflejock> luky: what mail server are you using have you checked the logs?
[19:28] <andyfied> AiriA: to start off though, run "apt-get install lvm2" or have a look in synaptic for it. lvm is definitely friendlier
[19:28] <AiriA> is it GUI or all command line?
[19:28] <polter> wafflejock: latitude is no more
[19:28] <wafflejock> polter: yeah I kinda had the lingering feeling that was true thx for the clarification
[19:29] <venux> polter: quick question, so gtkrc-2 is a file it appears that specifies the gtk theme and icons and whatnot to use.  So, if I build a gtkrc-2 file, and add it to the start up list for the desktop environments file, would that work?  And could I store the gtkrc-2 file inside say /usr/share/venux?
[19:29] <luky> http://pastebin.com/mXJiBeah
[19:29] <luky> this are the log files i cant do anything with that
[19:29] <grex25> zykotick9: This is not working at propitary applications
[19:29] <venux> /usr/share/venux contains my venux-desktop.sh file which launches xfwm, awn, etc and is called by /usr/share/xsessions/venux.desktop
[19:29] <Triple15_> ps3 always starts automatically in linux and ubuntu?
[19:29] <polter> venux: well it's usually place in the home directory of the use
[19:30] <venux> right, I'm looking to package this as well, though
[19:30] <andyfied> AiriA: lvm is gui
[19:31] <AiriA> andyfied: awesome. Thanks. Yeah I will look into it on my VM before I'll deploy to my server if I decide to change over
[19:31] <wafflejock> luky: did a quick Googling this may help not sure http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58390
[19:32] <zykotick9> grex25: thank you.  i did not realize ubuntu software center, really was an app store at this point.  good to know.  best of luck.
[19:32] <andyfied> AiriA: obviously be careful with anything that messes with your hard drives :)
[19:33] <AiriA> andyfied: everything is backed up anyway. but yes good point
[19:33] <grex25> zykotick9: Ty anyway,    theres a solutions copying files from /etc/apt/... ;)
[19:33] <polter> venux: I think the defaults are set in /etc/gtk-2.0 and etc/gtk-3.0
[19:34] <andyfied> AiriA: i work in data recovery, so i always recommend a good back up!
[19:34] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive to make 5*1tb drives. Are there any precautions I need to take, specific articles which I should read, or problems I am likely to encounter? My data is backing up
[19:34] <Griff|> now. I am by no means a guru, however I can work my way around linux with a bit of google-fu.
[19:34] <polter> venux: but I haven't messed with that so I can't be too sure. before you do anything make backups of the files :)
[19:35] <AiriA> andyfied: I see. more often than not people are calling me because they DIDNT back up data and go...please can you do something!!! And all I can say is..if you dont have a backup...I cant restore anything lol
[19:35] <venux> thank you, i will look into that
[19:35] <Pricey> Arg... after installing Ubuntu won't boot. If I boot off the usb unetbootin, i get the actual disk's bootloader and grub lets me to right through to ubuntu. I've seen this before but can't remember how to fix it... only the ubuntu / has a bootable flag. Any ideas?
[19:35] <andyfied> AiriA: hehe, well find a good DR cpmpany and they might be able to get 90% of cases back
[19:35] <Marlenee> i need some help in installing "AjaXplorer 5" on my server !
[19:36] <andyfied> AiriA: watch out for scammer though, seems to be a big thing
[19:36] <smaudet> Pricey, just a guess, use the /boot partition as bootable?
[19:36] <Pricey> smaudet: I don't think I have one...
[19:36] <zykotick9> Pricey: fyi, grub doesn't even care about boot flags...  i'd recommend booting into ubuntu (using unetbootin, or whatever) then reinstall grub to the HD, fyi, it probably WILL NOT be sda.
[19:36] <Pricey> zykotick9: its on sdb
[19:37] <zykotick9> Pricey: so reinstall it to sdb, which will become sda when you boot off it.
[19:37] <venux> polter: I have the themes and all my resources set up on partition 1, and I'm using partition 2 to test creating sessions, DE's, etc.  So all this will occur on partition2, so I'm not worried if I destroy it :)
[19:38] <Pricey> zykotick9: Attempted, no dice.
[19:39] <venux> pricey, where did u install bootloader during installation?
[19:39] <Pricey> venux: Just went through the installer, nothing special.
[19:39] <luky> OK WTF?!?!??! I SHUT DOWN SERVER AND THE CLIENT CAN SEND MAILS STILL FINE?
[19:39] <luky> not really
[19:39] <zykotick9> isn't there some boot-repair thing in ubuntu now?  what's ubottu's factoid for it?
[19:39] <venux> so at the partitioning part, what did you select?
[19:39] <polter> venux: ah redundancy, good on you :)
[19:40] <Pricey> venux: I've got two disks. First is split evenly between windows 7 & /home, the second has / and swap.
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> Pricey, You can install the grub bootloader from it desktop, is this a dual boot in a uefi enviroment?
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> its*
[19:40] <Pricey> wilee-nilee: I don't think uefi is enabled..
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> Pricey, sdb is where ubuntu is?
[19:41] <Pricey> i imagine that might've been easier now
[19:41] <Pricey> wilee-nilee: sure
[19:41] <zykotick9> Pricey: have you tried whatever this is?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> Pricey, sudo grub-install /dev/sdb ; sudo update-grub
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> from its desktop
[19:41] <venux> polter: well I wanted to build a DE, I understand building a distro nobody really cares about because theres already too many, but I'm building one, and really digging deep into linux to do it, so I'm developing my own DE.  Before I decided on the DE part, I just had XFCE set up with avant widnow navigator, then I realized that wouldn't work, and so here I am with one "working" partition where I make graphics
[19:41] <venux> and front end changes, and then partition 2 is all backend testing, and once it works on partition 2 then i deploy those changes on partition 1
[19:43] <luky> wafflejock: the quick googleing was very very fail
[19:43] <polter> venux: cool stuff, especially since a lot of distros is just some other distro with another VM
[19:43] <luky> my server wont boot anymore
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, put sdb as read first in the bios and you should have a grub menu
[19:43] <Psil0Cybin> heyt guys quick question when i nmap my ip from my vpn
[19:43] <polter> venux: that's not really a discussion for #ubuntu though :)
[19:43] <Psil0Cybin> howcome i see that port 50001 is open
[19:43] <Psil0Cybin> what is that usually used for?
[19:44] <JoeyJoeJo> What package do I have to install to get perl's Data::Dumper module?
[19:44] <venux> yeah
[19:45] <zykotick9> JoeyJoeJo: try: apt-cache search "Data::Dumper" and see if something jumps out at you?  i have no idea btw...
[19:45] <dtcrshr> What happened to ubuntu and usb sticks? I cant manage to boot a quite large number of pcs with a usb stick, created with windows app suggested on ubuntu website. I downloaded mint and fedora for tsting purpures and they boot fine on 3 desks and 4 notebooks with no hassle
[19:45] <dtcrshr> Im trying ubuntu 13, 12 lts and some others
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> venux, If you are registered with freenode /j ##linux is more applicable
[19:45] <venux> ensure the unetbootin created USB sticks are formatted as FAT32?
[19:45] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: re win tool, do you mean unetbootin?
[19:46] <xatr0z> Psil0Cybin: there is no default usage, but i know some upnp/dlna servers that use it. Try to open localhost:50001 and see if you see an webserver
[19:46] <venux> wilee-nilee: I don't think I'm registered.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> !register |  venux
[19:47] <wafflejock> luky: sorry to hear that it was just a search based on your logs
[19:47] <xatr0z> Psil0Cybin: but if you are using a vpn most likely all your ports are open to the world, so you should use a firewall on your computer instead of relying or your modem/NAT
[19:47] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive to make 5*1tb drives. Are there any precautions I need to take, specific articles which I should read, or problems I am likely to encounter? My data is backing up
[19:47] <Griff|> now. I am by no means a guru, however I can work my way around linux with a bit of google-fu.
[19:48] <mrrcp> l
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> Griff|, That is all beyond actual support, your are asking for advice, hit the web like the rest of us have
[19:51] <wafflejock> JoeyJoeJo: Appears to be in libdata-dumper-simple-perl http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man3/Data::Dumper.3perl.html not positive on this as I don't use it but Google says so
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> Griff|  is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[19:58] <swaagie> any directions on where I should look if laptop with current drm-intel-nightly kernel fails to power off on shutdown, even with: -h / pure poweroff ?
[19:58] <Harmageddon> Hi! I'm trying to connect my Ubuntu 12.04 to the Internet via LAN. The network manager seems to get the connection, it shows a "Wired connection 1", but I can't get online.
[19:59] <ftregloin> does anybody know what maximum displays count ubuntu 13.4 supports?
[20:00] <ftregloin> i have to use 12 displays on one machine
[20:00] <zykotick9> swaagie: anything called "nightly" can't really be "relied" upon... BUT it might get fixed tomorrow ;)
[20:00] <ikonia> ftregloin: how are you setting that up from an xserver point of view ?
[20:00] <ikonia> ftregloin: I suspect that will be the deciding factor over anything
[20:00] <Harmageddon> Connecting via WLAN works fine, though.
[20:01] <swaagie> zykotick9: I understand :) but afraid it was required to get the screen working, and I'm not 100% sure its related to the kernel, but yeah...
[20:01] <fregloin> hm, the idea consists on usage of 2 radeon 7970 or 2 or 3 mattrox 9120
[20:01] <ikonia> fregloin: I didn't ask about your video cards, I asked how you where setting up the x servers
[20:01] <polter> Harmageddon: could be that it's set to static IP when it should be DHCP or vice versa
[20:01] <fregloin> we need use 3*4 displays 1920*1080
[20:01] <zykotick9> swaagie: i'm guessing it's that something changed with your nightly ppa, if it was working.  check there launchpad site, for bugs perhaps.
[20:02] <ikonia> fregloin: still not answering my questions
[20:03] <fregloin> i'm not professional on x server configuration, so i can't answer on your question. i thought about using of xrandr
[20:03] <Harmageddon> Oh, forget about my question, I forgot to set the IP options from manual to automatically/dhcp.
[20:03] <swaagie> zykotick9: probably, installed it yesterday though laptop is rather new, will keep an eye out for bug fixes and the #intel-gfx channel
[20:03] <swaagie> in other words cant really say it worked
[20:04] <swaagie> :P
[20:04] <fregloin> all that i know that it will be used 12 displays on one machine for rendering one Qt application
[20:04] <ikonia> fregloin: ok, so you need to make sure you don't use any functions that are propitary to a driver, and then look at using say xinerama to setup the xservers as required
[20:05] <fregloin> so there no limits on display count in kernel or something like that?
[20:05] <bejker> fregloin:  12 displays loool
[20:05] <fregloin> because in windows limit is 10
[20:05] <fregloin> what lol? )
[20:05] <ikonia> fregloin: shouldn't be no, you'll only be limited by the resources of your machine
[20:05] <luky> i wantet to call my server hosting provider but instead i dieled the wrong number someone from a mental hospital anwered :D:DD:
[20:05] <zykotick9> ikonia: fyi, propritary-ati (or propritary-nvidia) will intentionally block usage of the other...  bastards.  but if i had to do a VERY multimonitor setup, i'd try to go nvidia myself... (but i've never done more then 2 monitors)
[20:06] <fregloin> ok, that is what u wanted to hear
[20:06] <fregloin> thanks
[20:06] <bejker> fregloin:  realy a lot of displays in one machine
[20:06] <fregloin> yes a lot
[20:06] <ikonia> zykotick9: thats why I was saying keep away from functions that are propitary
[20:06] <fregloin> but it is mandatory
[20:06] <luky> i told him my customer number and he said customer number in our mental hospital :D:D:D
[20:06] <zykotick9> ikonia: which i thought was good advice :)
[20:06] <fregloin> to show of scheme of big plant
[20:07] <fregloin> earlier i wrote apps under qnx for two displays on one machine, but now i'll write some app to run on 12 diplsyas )
[20:08] <mn3monic> Hello, Anyone here has messed with DisplayLink USB GPU ?
[20:08] <lapt0p> Do i only need GTK+ to develop the visual part of an OS GUI?
[20:08] <fregloin> it's better to use Qt
[20:08] <ikonia> lapt0p: you've been asking this for a long time now - it depends
[20:09] <lapt0p> ikonia: I've asked it once, but no one has given me a decent answer :)
[20:09] <ikonia> lapt0p: they have
[20:09] <venux> lapt0p: yes
[20:09] <ikonia> lapt0p: I've explained this to you before
[20:09] <venux> if you are planning onusing gtk
[20:10] <lapt0p> ikonia: Would you mind to explain it again?
[20:10] <venux> then you can tie in gtkpy, and python
[20:10] <scottyinzeo> hi all - i just finished a clean install of ubuntu 13.04 on my macbook pro mid 2010 - i switched to the proprietary nvidia graphics driver - upon a restart, i'm able to login successfully, but within 2 seconds, the screen goes completely black, like the monitor gets turned off - any ideas?
[20:10] <fregloin> thanks to all for answers
[20:10] <ikonia> lapt0p: actually yes - as I said it depends on what you are doing what libraries you'll need, but in essense the tool kit you want to use, eg: gtk should be enough for the visual element
[20:10] <iMart1n> Hi guys, this week-end me and my mates are participating in a Hackathon in Montpellier, France. The goal is to create an app in 48 hours and the themes are mobility and ecology. Read the full story here : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6420111, and if you like the idea, please vote for us on facebook ! Love.
[20:10] <ikonia> iMart1n: please don't spam that sort of junk in here
[20:11] <venux> scottyinzeo: I had similar problem with my ATI driver, and my problem is that the newest klernel for linux doesn't support the ati driver (or the driver doesnt support the new linux kernel)
[20:11] <lapt0p> ikonia: Thanks, and what should i use to make those parts logically connected?
[20:11] <fregloin> well, we have same problem with our x550
[20:11] <ikonia> lapt0p: what do you mean "what should you use"
[20:11] <fregloin> downgrade of x server doesn't help
[20:11] <venux> scottyinzeo: this may be the same for nvidia.  I resolved by resintalling ubuntu lol
[20:12] <lattera> anyone have a good blog article (or at least a sample xorg config) for a triple-monitor setup?
[20:12] <lattera> or a tutorial, or whatever
[20:12] <fregloin> lettera, try xrandr
[20:12] <fregloin> it really helped me
[20:12] <lattera> using an nvidia card
[20:12] <ikonia> xrandr is not an xorg config
[20:12] <lapt0p> ikonia: A toolkit / programming language knowledge / something ... // I am a beginner...
[20:12] <lattera> well, two nvidia cards
[20:12] <fregloin> oh, sorry
[20:12] <ikonia> lapt0p: then try some research and tutorials
[20:12] <smallfoot> When I try to login to gnome-session-flashback it logs in into Unity instead :( Why? :(
[20:12] <fregloin> есть кто из наших?
[20:13] <scottyinzeo> venux, yeah, the open source driver works fine - i'm wondering if an older version of the driver might work?
[20:13] <bejker> fregloin: #ubuntu-ru
[20:13] <zykotick9> lattera: if you have, nvidia.  does nvidia-settings report both of your cards (perhaps separatly somehow?)
[20:13] <lapt0p> ikonia: Yeah, but someone has to give me the starting idea, so i'll know in which direction to make the research
[20:13] <fregloin> ok, 10x
[20:13] <mn3monic> venux, about ATI
[20:13] <lattera> zykotick9: yup, it does
[20:13] <lattera> separately
[20:13] <mn3monic> venux, update fglrx & dkms packages
[20:14] <ikonia> lapt0p: open a web browser, type "begining gtk gui development" into a search engine and read
[20:14] <User2005> I had an Adaptec raid adapater working as a passthru device (sda) on Ubuntu server 13.04 64bit, in vmware (esxi 5.1.0).
[20:14] <ikonia> lapt0p: "how do I develop in gtk" is not an ubuntu issue, also try the gtk channel
[20:14] <zykotick9> lattera: and does it allow you to setup things the way you want?  isn't there a save to xorg button or something (start it with gksudo, if you get an error).
[20:14] <User2005> And mounted /dev/sda1 to /data.
[20:14] <venux> Well see, aTI hasn't developed a new driver since an older kernel, so when I update the kernel the proprietary ati driver won't work.  But the one included in Ubuntu works fine for me (not the ati one specifically, the generic one)
[20:14] <smallfoot> User2005, you can mount it in /media/
[20:15] <User2005> Then I power off the system, remove the CD-rom, and now /dev/sda is gone. (lspci shows the controller)
[20:15] <mn3monic> venux, the problem inside the log is with the dkms compiling, ah ?
[20:15] <lattera> zykotick9: ah, gotcha, looks like it might
[20:15] <mn3monic> right ?
[20:15] <lattera> let's see if this works :)
[20:15] <lattera> brb, gonna install the new xorg config and reboot
[20:15] <lapt0p> ikonia: Thanks
[20:15] <venux> scottyinzeo: an older kernel should work.  Maybe check what was the last kernel that the driver supported and downgrade accordingly
[20:15] <ikonia> smallfoot: he didn't ask where he can mount it, he said it's already mounted
[20:15] <bejker> User2005: use automatic mount
[20:15] <smallfoot> ikonia, okay, but I would mount it in /mnt or /media, which is where its supposed to go
[20:15] <venux> mn3monic: haven't checked the log, just admitted defeat and stopped trying to use the ati driver
[20:15] <ikonia> smallfoot: he can mount it where he wants.
[20:16] <shader> hello, how do I set which version of a package gets the command name? I remember there being a command for it, but I've forgotten what it was. Eg. emacs-snapshot for emacs
[20:16] <mn3monic> venux, check the install log, if the problem is with DKMS, then upload dkms with package from saucy, it will work
[20:16] <bejker> User2005:  use fstab
[20:16] <bejker> !fstab User2005
[20:16] <kostkon> shader, update-xxxx-alternatives
[20:16] <bejker> stupid bot
[20:16] <venux> it happened to me a long time ago, and I've since reinstalled ubuntu.  Won't be messing with it til it's stable
[20:16] <kostkon> shader, sudo update-xxxx-alternatives
[20:16] <shader> kostkon: what's the xxx?
[20:16] <User2005> I have it in fstab, but as I said, /dev/sda no longer shows up (let alone sda1)
[20:16] <venux> (long time ago for me is a couple months and multiple reinstallations)
[20:17] <kostkon> shader, the software in question, e.g. update-java-alternatives
[20:17] <shader> ok
[20:17] <shader> thanks
[20:17] <bejker> User2005:  what u have write in fstab?
[20:17] <User2005> bejker: /dev/sdb1 /data ext4 defaults 1 2
[20:17] <ikonia> User2005: "sdb"
[20:18] <smallfoot> When I try to login to gnome-session-flashback it logs in into Unity instead :(
[20:18] <User2005> ikonia: correct, sorry, my bad
[20:18] <ikonia> User2005: have you added the disk in vmware, or just the conroller ?
[20:18] <ikonia> User2005: eg: does that machine have an additional storage device added to it's profile ?
[20:19] <User2005> Just the controller, as a passthru device (PCI)
[20:19] <venux> smallfoot: reinstall gnome
[20:19] <bejker> User2005:  type fdisk -l
[20:19] <bejker> User2005:  sudo fdisk -l
[20:19] <mn3monic> anyone here has displaylink usb gpus working under xorg?
[20:19] <zykotick9> bejker: and if they use gpt, "sudo parted -l" ;)
[20:20] <bejker> zykotick9:  realy i dont know that command ;)
[20:20] <lattera> so it kinda/sorta works, but not really
[20:21] <venux> hah I have a tech support position with a wireless company, and while doing that I'm in here answering any questions I feel safe answering lol
[20:21] <zykotick9> bejker: get with the gpt world ;)  i just joking, i was a hard core fdisk person for MANY years, but really, it's the worst choice...  i've moved on.
[20:21] <bejker> User2005:  best way is mount UUID number no /dev/sdb
[20:22] <User2005> bejker: fdisk does not show it.
[20:22] <zykotick9> bejker: LOL, NO.  best way is LABELS
[20:23] <bejker> zykotick9:  O, i didnt know that, all persons told me to use UUID :)