[04:46] <ubuntu_> can somone tell me how to get the ubuntu install cd into recovery mode? I used it before but I forgot what I had to type.
[04:46] <brenner> ubuntu_: rescue iirc
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> fsn: Yeah, that's fine.  See the channel info or !pastebin for the preferred pasting site.  I'll take a look.
[04:47] <ubuntu_> ahh
[04:47] <ubuntu_> proly
[04:47] <ubuntu_> only one I didnt try
[04:47] <ubuntu_> tyired recover and recovery and things like that
[04:47] <ubuntu_> thanks
[04:47] <fsn> !pastebin
[04:47] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:48] <paladinew> So how difficult is it to setup a secure tunnel using ssh from a xp box to my ubuntu box and setup a vnc session ????
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> fsn: For /dev/hda5, make the line 'root     (hd0,4)'.
[04:48] <fsn> alright, i'll try that, thanks
[04:49] <meuserj> paladinew: not hard
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Ah, much better.  And rsync tells me which directory it's dealing with too; scp just said the filename.
[04:50] <ironuckles> Can anyone recommend a good scheduler/organizer for Gnome?
[04:50] <intelikey> at
[04:50] <jeff_ii> heya.
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> ironuckles, I don't use it myself, but Evolution's said to be good for that, as well as being an e-mail client.
[04:51] <meuserj> paladinew: use putty... somewhere in the option three is ssh tunnels.. set a local port forward from 5900 on the local box to 5900 on the remote box
[04:51] <xsmogx> When you install ubuntu do you set root password or is there a default one?
[04:51] <meuserj> paladinew: then vnc to localhost
[04:51] <meuserj> paladinew: and everything will be forwarded through the tunnel.
[04:51] <meuserj> !tell xsmogx about sudo
[04:51] <ironuckles> tonyyarusso, thanks
[04:51] <jeff_ii> having issues attempting to use j2re1.5 - stuck with libc.so.6 : cannot open shared object messages.  anyone have an idea?
[04:51] <Agamotto> xsmogx:  generally, there isn't a root password as you use the SUperDO command
[04:52] <wweasel> Could someone help me? I am following the instructions on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732 I am confused by Step 2, because I don't have a deb of Firefox 1.5. What do I do instead?
[04:52] <xsmogx> What's the SuperDo command?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, Are you referring to sudo, perchance?
[04:52] <wweasel> xmogx: lets you do something as root.
[04:52] <Agamotto> Yep, my own little take on sudo :)
[04:52] <intelikey> Agamotto i thought it was "Super User DO"
[04:52] <xsmogx> I tried su
[04:53] <meuserj> xsmogx: "sudo <command>"
[04:53] <meuserj> !tell xsmogx about sudo
[04:53] <intelikey> cant su without there being a password for the user you su to
[04:53] <wweasel> could someone help me with the instructions on this website? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732
[04:53] <jeff_ii> wweasel: just did that today - get the official mozilla.com/firefox .tar.gz and drop it into a directory
[04:53] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?
[04:53] <DjKritical> anyone know how to jumpstart a usb device?...   (IBM Rescue and Recovery partition, Windows)
[04:53] <wweasel> jeff_ii. ok. i dropped it into a directory. is that all i need to do to install it?
[04:53] <jeff_ii> wweasel> then have the script point to the newly-dropped firefox.
[04:54] <Agamotto> DjKritical:  mount /dev/sda?
[04:54] <wweasel> jeff_ii. oh, cool! perfect, thanks
[04:54] <jeff_ii> wweasel> yes, that's all. :)
[04:54] <xsmogx> so lets say I downloaded aim, I'd have to sudo before I untar?
[04:54] <psusi> tonyyarusso, my guess is a compressed image file of the main partition as it was shipped from the factory
[04:54] <Agamotto> xsmogx:  Generally, yes.  Exceptions can be made for groups and/or users
[04:55] <DjKritical> Agamotto,  mount: can't find /mnt/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:55] <DjKritical> oh
[04:55] <DjKritical> dev
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: How goes it?
[04:55] <xsmogx> How do I set a root password?
[04:55] <xsmogx> or is it not recommended
[04:55] <DjKritical> Agamotto, same thing with /dev/sda
[04:55] <Agamotto> Hrm
[04:55] <wweasel> jeff_ii: how do i create the script? sorry, a bit clueless at this point
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> psusi, Sounds plausible.  And would explain why they're large files.
[04:55] <wweasel> pumpernickle: almost done trying the instructions on the website you sent me.
[04:56] <intelikey> xsmogx it's not recommended.    'sudo passwd '
[04:56] <cyphase> how do you restart the dns resolver?
[04:56] <jeff_ii> wweasel> a script is just a text file.  so you can either use a text editor, or cat (eg cat > scriptname.sh, then paste contents, then hit ctrl-z).  just remember to chmod +x the text file after you've saved it.  and name it with a .sh extension.
[04:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Cool... I hope they work.
[04:56] <BlueT_> Kyral: it seems that it's real :D
[04:56] <psusi> xsmogx, you should not need a root password
[04:56] <wweasel> jeff_ii, and how do I make it point to the directory i placed firefox in?
[04:57] <xsmogx> so what would be the command to untar 'aim-1.5.286.tgz'
[04:57] <jeff_ii> wweasel> last line of the script on the web page reads: firefox.  that's actually an executable call.  so if you replace it with /path/to/new/firefox/firefox (replace /path/to/new/firefox), it should launch the 32bit firefox
[04:58] <DjKritical> anyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?
[04:58] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> tar xvfj aim-1.5.286.tgz
[04:58] <xsmogx> do I do sudo befrore that command?
[04:59] <ara> can someone here help me with Kino here???
[04:59] <intelikey> xsmogx think of the command it's self.   sudo blah  = super user do blah
[04:59] <xsmogx> ah great, thank you.
[05:00] <jeff_ii> ara> can always try - haven't played with Kino in quite some time...
[05:01] <ara> jeff_ii: i just want to know why i can't open a .avi file? it says "this is not a DV file" and then fails to open it.
[05:01] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok, i created it in gedit, saved it to /usr/bin as firefox32.sh
[05:01] <wweasel> jeff_ii: now how do i execute it?
[05:01] <jeff_ii> ara> .avi is a container format - an avi file can be one of many things, DV (digital video) being one of them, Video for WIndows another.
[05:02] <intelikey> wweasel make it executalbe     'chmod 755 file '
[05:02] <DjKritical> anyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?
[05:02] <jeff_ii> ara> when Kino talk about avi files, I believe it is referring to DV format content hosted inside the avi format ( the other formats require libraries that can decode microsoft avi formats )
[05:02] <kestas> for some really annoying reason a WMF file I have has fine video but no sound when I use xine, yet when I use totem-gstreamer the sound plays fine but there's no video!
[05:02] <kestas> any idea how I can sort this out?
[05:02] <jeff_ii> wweasel> once it's chmod-ed, you can give it a try with ./script_name
[05:02] <jeff_ii> wweasel> if it works, you can create a launcher that points to the script
[05:03] <intelikey> kestas tried vlc ?
[05:03] <jeff_ii> kestas> totem-gstreamer doesn't make use of the 32bit libraries that xine/mplayer do, and thus cannot decode the WMV video.
[05:03] <wweasel> jeff_ii; doesn't work. i get a ton of errors. pando errors.
[05:03] <jeff_ii> kestas> have a look at xine's audio configuration.
[05:03] <ara> jeff_ii , do you know a software that can make this file a DV so Kino would be able to open it?
[05:04] <jeff_ii> wweasel> had that earlier today too.  did you copy into that script file the entire little script from the web page?
[05:04] <B1zz> earlier today i tried to install Jre for firefox when i tried my user account i just closes down.  When i run it from promp it says Segmentation fault.  When i run it from root it works fine.  Any idea whas goin on?
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> How can I configure how far each 'click' of my mouse scroll wheel moves the page?
[05:04] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> i would think that's an X-window option?>
[05:04] <MeeKs_> can someone help me paritioning a drive when im installing ubuntu
[05:04] <wweasel> jeff_ii: yes. except i replaced firefox with /opt/firefox/firefox
[05:05] <xsmogx> I just did a sudo tar xvfj aim-1.5.286.tgz (to install aim) then I used a /usr/local/bin/aim to launch it. It says there is no such file. What's the problem?
[05:05] <MeeKs_> i have a 250gb hd i want to partition to 10gb for the OS and the 240 for media and nothing else
[05:05] <MeeKs_> how do i go about this
[05:05] <intelikey> tonyyarusso in what app ?    mozilla has it's own settings on that,  and i believe nautilus do to
[05:05] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> does ls /usr/local/bin/aim list the file correctly?  is it executable?
[05:05] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?
[05:05] <xsmogx> I don't see it in the /usr/local/bin, where would it be
[05:06] <jeff_ii> wweasel> still with you -- just reading the page over.  does the file /etc/pango32/pangorc exist on your syste,?
[05:06] <wweasel> no.
[05:06] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> the tar file has expanded itself in the current directory.  you will have to move it to its final location
[05:06] <intelikey> xsmogx probably in your home dir  but why not use   'sudo apt-get install gaim '  ???
[05:07] <wweasel> jeff_ii: no. pango does exist, but not pango32/pangorc
[05:07] <meuserj> !tell xsmogx about gaim
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, intelikey: I was hoping all of them, but I'm ignorant like that.  So far I've been using it in XChat, Firefox, and gnome-terminal.
[05:07] <intelikey> xsmogx this is not slackware, tar.gz/tgz  are not installers
[05:08] <xsmogx> oh, I see
[05:08] <xsmogx> What are the installers for ubuntu
[05:08] <meuserj> xsmogx: gaim is better than aim for linux, and it should already be installed
[05:08] <intelikey> deb
[05:08] <jeff_ii> wweasel> riiighht.  seem to recall I wrote that one myself too.  let me get the link to where I found it for you...
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Do you know where I would change it if it is an X thing?
[05:08] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> you can either use synaptics or directly apt-get/dpkg from the shell
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, (Well, I suppose xorg.conf somewhere, but where in / how?)
[05:09] <intelikey> meuserj you assume a default install ^
[05:09] <xsmogx> Synaptics?
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, It's the GUI frontend to apt.
[05:09] <LathropWells> Is there an updte for      Fetchmail      ?
[05:09] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> woah.  stumper here. :)  it would have to be under input devices (I remember Dialog asking something about mouse wheel emulation at some point...) lemme see if I can find it
[05:10] <intelikey> one never knows....
[05:10] <DjKritical> anyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?
[05:10] <jeff_ii> wweasel> got it!  look further down the original instructional web page ! :)
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, Most things can be downloaded and installed through the command line with sudo apt-get install packagename, or GUI with Synaptic, under System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager.
[05:10] <Agamotto> Meeks:  You actually need three partitions, one for / (the OS), one for swap (memory swap-out), then your third one for /media
[05:10] <jeff_ii> wweasel> there's a entry by tux61 that begins with "Sorry I forgot the pangorc file !!!!"
[05:11] <jeff_ii> DjKritical> I thought that was part of the scsi-emulation layer?
[05:11] <LathropWells> Dj - the system responsible for USB is "hotplug" isn't it?
[05:11] <Agamotto> LathropWells:  If memory serves, yes
[05:11] <DjKritical> I have no idea? :)
[05:11] <DjKritical> I just want ubuntu to recognise my usb camera again... and bring up the "image import" window...
[05:12] <DjKritical> normally I'd just unplug the cable and plug it back in again
[05:12] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok so how do i create that file. what file extension,e tc.
[05:12] <DjKritical> but I'm 1000km away using vnc
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, I found the mouse section in xorg.conf, but don't know how I would modify it.  Is there a guide to dealing with this file somewhere?
[05:12] <LathropWells> Seveas,Amaranth, bob2, cafuego, and many many others - THANK YOU! :)
[05:12] <Amaranth> ?
[05:12] <intelikey> DjKritical you could try  sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart     but i make no claim that it will actually help you.
[05:12] <Amaranth> you're welcome? :)
[05:12] <LathropWells> Amaranth - you are always here and supportive. :)
[05:13] <Amaranth> hotplug is going away in dapper
[05:13] <jeff_ii> wweasel> same trick as the script, except that it's called pangorc and lives in /etc/pango32
[05:13] <Amaranth> actually, it's already gone
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> DjKritical, Would love some guidance on using vnc, if you'd like to pm me.  Tried it out once, but got confused, and had connection refused error messages.
[05:14] <jahshua> hey how can i find out what location a program i need to use is in ??
[05:14] <intelikey> Amaranth great; means more automatic crap in the base system right....
[05:14] <DjKritical> tonyyarusso, sure
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> jahshua, locate programname often works.
[05:14] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok i did chmod 755 to it like the last one. now try firefox32 again?
[05:14] <Amaranth> intelikey: it got replaced by udevd
[05:14] <jeff_ii> jahsua> which <programname> will tell you where it is if it's in the path, if not locate <programname> will look it up on disk
[05:15] <B1zz> earlier today i tried to install Jre for firefox when i tried my user account i just closes down.  When i run it from promp it says Segmentation fault.  When i run it from root it works fine.  Any idea whas goin on?
[05:15] <intelikey> udev is in hoary
[05:15] <generalleoff> k all rescued
[05:15] <jeff_ii> wweasel> no need to chmod that one, it's not executable.  a file that ends with "rc" is typically a configuration file.  yup, trying firefox again is the next step
[05:15] <generalleoff> easy when eyr not dumb and cant guess rescue insted of recovery
[05:15] <generalleoff> ha
[05:15] <DJLILYAZI> hi everyone
[05:15] <LathropWells> pfft - intelikey's ideal base system is Tom's Root Boot Disk?  - grin
[05:15] <Amaranth> intelikey: or just udev, i'm not sure
[05:15] <wweasel> jeff_ii, woops i already chmodded it. what do i do to undo it.
[05:15] <jeff_ii> DjKritikal> actually, unplugging/replugging the usb camera should force a refresh (at the very least you should see something pop into syslog)
[05:16] <Amaranth> intelikey: basically it got replaced by something that does the same thing but better
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> i cant install linux it freezes aafter "scanning  cd-rom"
[05:16] <intelikey> Amaranth udevd is the daemon that watches udev
[05:16] <jeff_ii> wweasel> t'snot that bad if you already have, but you can revert your changes using chmod -x pangorc
[05:16] <Amaranth> intelikey: yeah, i know that
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> the whole computer just freeeeeezessssssssssssss help me please
[05:16] <Amaranth> but man pages say it uses hotplug :P
[05:16] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  gesh - you still having issues eh>
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, so yeahhhh
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, guess what now ?
[05:16] <LathropWells> What have i started?...   (covers eyes.)
[05:17] <jeff_ii> Amaranth> thought hotplug had been replaced by udev/HAL and gnome-volume-manager?
[05:17] <intelikey> well udev should work without hotplug in eariler systems too but maybe they have refined it somewhat...
[05:17] <intelikey> i hope
[05:17] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, ok so now the whle computer freezes after the part "scanning for cd-rom"
[05:17] <wweasel> jeff_ii: it works, but i still got a ton of gdk errors.
[05:17] <MeeKs_> can someone help me with partitioning in an ubuntu install
[05:17] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  this is the ubunu 5.10 install cd eh?
[05:17] <intelikey> MeeKs_ ask
[05:18] <MeeKs_> i have a 250gb hd i want to partition to 10gb for the OS and the 240 for media and nothing else
[05:18] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, yes
[05:18] <MeeKs_> i have it set up like that
[05:18] <jeff_ii> wweasel> if they are warnings and do not cause crashes, you can safely ignore them.  console output of gdk-based apps often verbosely log all warnings and asserts.  now all that's needed is to create a launcher in your panels to use that script and voila!  firefox 32bit.
[05:18] <MeeKs_> but i dont understand the /root and /home
[05:18] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, you know what i did too i tried knoppix live and it gave me disalbing IRQ#10 thats it....
[05:18] <Agamotto> MeeKs_:  I have already answered your question
[05:19] <MeeKs_> i didnt see
[05:19] <wweasel> jeff_ii: great! how do i do that :P
[05:19] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  knoppix live cd dident work either?
[05:19] <MeeKs_> ok i see
[05:19] <Agamotto> MeeKs_:  1 partition for OS, 1 for swap space, 1 for /media
[05:19] <MeeKs_> right
[05:19] <MeeKs_> but
[05:19] <P8ntKid_> can anybody help me with the w32 codecs?
[05:19] <MeeKs_> the OS one will be / root
[05:19] <MeeKs_> ?
[05:19] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, yeah it did not .. it just gave me disabling IRQ#10 and that was the end of it
[05:19] <jeff_ii> wweasel> right-click inside the panel of your choice (either top or bottom of screen) and select "Add To Panel", then "Custom Application Launcher"
[05:19] <MeeKs_> what bout the other for media
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> I got them to work fine with firefox and the mplayer plugin, but i cant get .wmv and .avi files to play in totem/mplayer outside of firefox
[05:20] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> sure
[05:20] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok
[05:20] <Agamotto> MeeKs_:  I suppose your could do / root, but as / stands for root, it would be rather redundant
[05:20] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  bummer.. this on a laptop? or desktop box.
[05:20] <wweasel> jeff_ii, what next?
[05:20] <intelikey> MeeKs_ i sujest you add one other partition for /home    the 10g for system will be mounted as   /  the root of the whole filesystem   the media partition should be mounted some place like /home/storage   or  /storage   or something like that.
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Do you know how to fix it/
[05:20] <agtnz> hey where is the bootup log (the bit that usplash usually hides)?
[05:20] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> as far as I know, totem doesn't use them.  mplayer does.
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Well, it doesnt work with mplayer either.
[05:20] <MeeKs_> ok so / for the OS /home for the media and swap
[05:20] <MeeKs_> sounds good?
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: But, they work with the mplayerplug-in
[05:21] <Agamotto> totem is useless software
[05:21] <jeff_ii> wweasel> in the dialog that pops up, type in "Firefox 32bit" for the name, /path/to/script/script (change path and script name to match) for the command, click on Icon and choose an Icon and voila.
[05:21] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, desktop
[05:21] <imajuchi> hello every one. help me out, i m trying to set up ubuntu to do tv-out. i have a sharp television and it gives me 3 options input1, 2 , and component. Which one is the one to get the signal from the computer?
[05:21] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i know it has to do something with my BIOS i think....
[05:21] <Markbb-> mmm, seems like my machine likes the live CD, but doesn't like linux properly installed on it :S
[05:21] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> they probably do through mplayerplug-in, which uses mplayer.  so, using gmplayer, you should be able to play back those files, right?
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> What's it mean if I'm getting errors with rsync in /sys/devices, and should I even be including these?  (Their all pci*)
[05:22] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> how's mplayer misbehaving?
[05:22] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Well its not playing .wmv and .avi
[05:22] <intelikey> MeeKs_ you can use the 240g for /home if you like  but i personally would not.   i'd make one of about  2/5 g  for /home  and mount the big partition elsewhere
[05:22] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  well thers dozens of boot time options that may be helpfull.. but i got no clue what ones.. time to google for your specific pc/motherboard and linux - perhaps some forums/messages/sites may give a clue.
[05:22] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: But, the mplayerplug-in for firefox plays them fine lol
[05:23] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i alreayd google my life away loooooooooooool
[05:23] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: you should be excluding /dev, /proc, and /tmp
[05:23] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i dont know what to look for anymore ...you know what i mean
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Alternatively, how can I make rsync just skip and forge onward on errors?
[05:23] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: check the exclude option of rsync
[05:23] <jeff_ii> P8nthKid_> i know.  it's a bit of a mess these two.  can you actually get anything from straight mplayer?
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Thanks.  I knew about /proc, but forgot what else I needed out.
[05:23] <imajuchi> does any one has tv-out working that can help me?
[05:23] <tristanmike> I'm having a problem installing Breezy. The main install went relatively ok, a tad slow, but appeared to finish without error. Upon reboot, and after the splash, it began a second phase of the install, it got to about 82% and a message popped up saying something about one of the files not installing or being corrupt and I could manually try to install it to fix it and press enter to continue, but it brought me straight to a tty1 screen
[05:23] <tristanmike> and not the desktop, anyone with any ideas?
[05:23] <jeff_ii> wweasel> how goes the battle?  can you now launch firefox32 from the panels?
[05:24] <sander> anyone know what basic package I might be missing.. when i'm compiling.. and getting: pwd.h: No such file or directory
[05:24] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  :) i got so many spare pcs i'd just install to a differnt one and swap out the hd;s
[05:24] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: No, it tells me i am missing a codec.
[05:24] <imajuchi> i follow the guide from the forum but not luck
[05:24] <intelikey> MeeKs_ you can make your whole 240g partition accessable to any given user that way and not to all users, also it is an added precaution if you awax a partition your eggs are not all in one basket.
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Wait though, this is in /sys/devices, not /dev.
[05:24] <tcpip> ntfs partitions are alrite for ubuntu?
[05:24] <tcpip> for installations i mean
[05:24] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: ah yeah.. /sys should be excluded too
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, For installing Ubuntu on, or with?
[05:25] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> what's the exact message?  it may well be that mplayer is configured to use a video output (vo) technique that your computer does not support, and reports it as not being able to find a codec that works, as where through firefox the plugin sets the video output, and thus workds.
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Okay.  Time to try again.
[05:25] <intelikey> tcpip no !
[05:25] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, what do u mean ?
[05:25] <tcpip> on and with both
[05:25] <intelikey> tcpip no !
[05:25] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii:  AVI: Missing video stream!? Contact the author, it may be a bug :(
[05:25] <meuserj> tcpip: very very no
[05:25] <sander> someone said I was missing glibc.. development binaries.. what package is that in ubuntu?
[05:25] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: thats for mplayer
[05:25] <jeff_ii> tristanmike> looks like your install cd's corrupted.  you could proceed with a manual install (it may not have gotten to X and gnome yet) or try again with a new disc
[05:25] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  i often install on one pc.. then move its hd to another pc.
[05:25] <picasso> ugh
[05:25] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i can, but i when i click a link in xchat it still opens in the old 1.0.7
[05:25] <tcpip> i have all my partitions on ntfs :(
[05:26] <picasso> im trying to compile intel's kernel module for my network card, but keep getting: include/linux/etherdevice.h:67: error: previous definition of 'is_multicast_ether_addr' was here
[05:26] <intelikey> tcpip so swrink one and make free 'unpartitioned' space for the linux install.
[05:26] <imajuchi> can some one tell me if wchich entry should i use for tv-out on my tv? input 1, 2 or component thank you
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, Ubuntu can read ntfs, but it can't write to it.  So no, you can't install to ntfs; you'll have to reformat at least one partition.
[05:27] <tristanmike> jeff_ii, hmm, pressed copy, but if going manual, what should i do, just install ubuntu-desktop and see how it goes?
[05:27] <jeff_ii> wweasel> that's another story.  go to System - Preferences - Preferred Applications
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, The ntfs resizer in the installation works fine.
[05:27] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  hmm.. none o those sound like a way to get video OUT of your tv.
[05:28] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Actually, it seems that the files i have downloaded are messed up
[05:28] <tcpip> one / two ... i mean it does need swap too right
[05:28] <wweasel> jeff_ii: custom command, the same i made for my panel icon?
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, oh dam ur smart
[05:28] <jeff_ii> wweasled> *bingo*
[05:28] <imajuchi> dr willis i follow the all the steps un the ubuntu forum :( do you have any idea?
[05:28] <cyphase> does Gnome 3.0 have a release year yet?
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> but i have two notebooks and one brand new desktop
[05:28] <cyphase> :)
[05:28] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_>  that could be a problem. :)_
[05:28] <jeff_ii> tristanmike> that's worth a shot, for sure.
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, what should i search for in google like my motherbored ?
[05:28] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  :P sounds like you may have a bad burnt cd.. or a dirty cd drive..  not sure what else to tell you
[05:28] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Because i just downloaded a new one. And it works fine.
[05:29] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  yea your motherboard and chipset perhaps
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> I swear, I'll get this backup done eventually.
[05:29] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  i dont een know what you are trying to do.
[05:29] <intelikey> tcpip need is not the correct term.  swap is probably a good idea.  but your system has enough ram it probably doesn't "need" swap to function
[05:29] <Agamotto> Perhaps he should try to turn off DMA with his particular cd drive?
[05:29] <wweasel> jeff_ii, still doesn't open in the proper place.
[05:29] <imajuchi> i connected the cable to the tv but i dont know in what channel it goes, im using an svideo cable
[05:29] <jeff_ii> imajuchi> how's the tv-out signal leaving your computer?
[05:29] <xsmogx> I'm still having problems with sudo, I did a 'sudo mv ndiswrapper-1.7.tar.gz /usr/src, and it askes for the password, so I just hit enter and it brings me back onto the command prompt. Then I cd to /usr/src and it's not there, what's the issue?
[05:29] <regeya> any way to use ladspa plugins with gstreamer-based apps?
[05:29] <dr_willis> Agamotto,  i dont think the installer enables dma by default
[05:30] <imajuchi> via svideo jeff
[05:30] <Agamotto> Hmmm, it did on my system
[05:30] <intelikey> tcpip linux can use swap partitions and/or swap files
[05:30] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  my tv has a 'input' button on the remote to change the input it uses
[05:30] <tcpip> intelikey: 512 megs ddr400 enuf
[05:30] <regeya> 'coz I've got a sweet stack of fx right now in xmms that make my mediocre multimedia speakers sound sweeeeeeet
[05:30] <jeff_ii> wweasel> hmm.  must admit I'm not using xchat, but I would expect it to use gnome's preferred applications.  if you try to open a link from, let's say, Evolution (if you use it), where does it open?
[05:30] <tcpip> ?
[05:30] <jeff_ii> imajuchi> does your television manual talk about svideo input anywhere and how to get it selected?
[05:31] <imajuchi> yes, but the problem is tha mine has 3 input 1 2 and component :)
[05:31] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  so you hit input a few times and it jumps from one to the other...
[05:31] <imajuchi> thats the thing its an old tv
[05:31] <wweasel> jeff_ii, don't use evolution.
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, "Just hit enter"?  That would be why.  It asks for a password for a reason; you have to enter one.
[05:31] <imajuchi> yes
[05:31] <jeff_ii> wweasel> thunderbird? :)
[05:31] <imajuchi> but nothing happens
[05:31] <xsmogx> I thought by default there is no password for sudo
[05:32] <jeff_ii> imajuchi> are you sure that X is properly outputing through your SVideo out (from the computer, that is)?
[05:32] <wweasel> jeff_ii, no e-mail client yet. just trying to get it to work first (i haven;t used linux before)
[05:32] <imajuchi> im getting stuck there because i believe i have all the configuration right
[05:32] <intelikey> tcpip yes it will run on that without any swap.   not that the channel owners want me to recommend that you have no swap partition.    this box has 64m ram  and no swap running linux as we speak.
[05:32] <khermans> Anyone know how to rip an Audio CD using gtkpod to the iPod directly?
[05:32] <imajuchi> yes
[05:32] <Markbb-> xsmogx: you need to enter your user password when using sudo
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, You need your normal user password that you log in with.
[05:32] <wweasel> jeff_ii, trying a built in game's online help
[05:32] <tcpip> tonyyarusso: the resizer will help even when i have data on a big partition or i partition it with partition magic or something?
[05:33] <wweasel> jeff_ii, went into blackjack, clicked online help it brought me to the 1.5
[05:33] <Agamotto> Swap isn't needed, but it is very convenient when running 10 - 15 programs at once
[05:33] <jeff_ii> khermans> aren't you skipping a few steps here?  (or did gtkpod receive a cd-ripping capability recently)?  my understanding that you rip and encode to mp3 first, then transfer to ipod via gtkpod...
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, First, forget about Partition Magic.  I used it on two different computers, and both times it worked once and was no longer able to read the partition table after that.
[05:33] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, yeah i am going to do that...
[05:33] <khermans> jeff_ii, supposedly gtkpod required grip
[05:34] <jeff_ii> wweasel> did your changes to preferred applications stick?  (are they still set to custom?)
[05:34] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, what to hear something so funny ?
[05:34] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  sure.....
[05:34] <wweasel> jeff_ii, yes
[05:34] <intelikey> tcpip it is not a question of if it will run the system or not.  it is a question of will you be asking the system to open enough ram eating apps at any given time to cause the system to use all avalable ram and there by cause an app to fail.
[05:34] <jeff_ii> khermans> gtkpod doesn't seem to require grip on dapper...
[05:35] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, the highly recomanded linux for my motherbord is ubuntu
[05:35] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, loooooooooool
[05:35] <khermans> jeff_ii, im using breezy
[05:35] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, like i am going crazy here with this linux stuff...
[05:35] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  sounds like it may be a cdrom issue then
[05:35] <khermans> jeff_ii, ok if not, what is the recommended CDDA->MP3 converter?  Sound Juicer?
[05:35] <jeff_ii> khermans> according to packages.ubuntu.com, it doesn't in breeze either...
[05:35] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI, since both Ubunu and knoppix are having issues
[05:35] <tcpip> intelikey: thgt linux was pretty efficient with ram :P
[05:36] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, as the hardware problem like i need to buy a new dvd/cd writer ?
[05:36] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  could go get 'DSL' its a 50mb live cd..  as a 3rd test
[05:36] <khermans> Is there some sort of user-community software voting system?  like where people vote on what package for a task is their favorite under Linux?
[05:36] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  or go to the bookstore and get a Linux mag with a premade cd. :P
[05:36] <tcpip> tonyyarusso: windows disk management is fine?
[05:36] <jeff_ii> khermans> that's one, but last time I looked at it, configuration out of the box didn't quite give you proper mp3s (was setup for like ogg vorbis through gstreamer)
[05:36] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  as another test
[05:36] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i tried suse live also it have me disabling IRQ#18
[05:36] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 13.4/61.1 MB (22%)
[05:36] <intelikey>  /exec -o sis -m
[05:36] <Agamotto> mp3 requires exteral libraries (non-free) to work under Ubuntu
[05:36] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i will reboot my computer and i will be right back.
[05:37] <jeff_ii> khermans> grip used to do the trick for me (rebuilding my desktop right now, haven't quite gotten to the "dealing with mp3s part" still fighting with kernel.
[05:37] <intelikey> that is the output of the command i just ran to check my memory ^
[05:37] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  sounds like some odd hardware issue then.
[05:37] <jeff_ii> wweasel> worth a try. :)
[05:37] <tcpip> intelikey: what all apps u using?
[05:37] <jeff_ii> agamotto> makes sense.
[05:37] <GerogeW> hello my fellow linuxians, i am having some issues with mplayer the sounds is choppy. SOmebody please assist me with this issue
[05:37] <dr_willis> well - bbl
[05:37] <intelikey> nothing really just chating atm
[05:37] <intelikey> that is base system usage
[05:37] <tcpip> intelikey: u knw how to get that 'input box' for typing 'hdparam -d' during an expert installation.. i cant seem to get that
[05:38] <xsmogx> Is anyone familiar with the ndiswrapper documentation on wiki?
[05:38] <DJLILYAZI> does anyone have the motherbored 865PE neo2 ??????????????????//
[05:38] <Agamotto> GerogeW:  First, go into System -> Prefs -> Sound and turn off  the enable sound server startup... this clears up many audio problems
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, The resizer should be able to resize any partition you throw at it, it's just a question of how long it will take.  You can change things later too, for instance if you install dual-booting with Windows, and then want to steal more space from it later.
[05:38] <intelikey> tcpip no not durring install no.   preinstall  use [F1]
[05:39] <intelikey> that is before you boot the install cd ^
[05:39] <GerogeW> thanks a million-but doesnt that turn off the startup sound and everything else?
[05:40] <intelikey> tcpip you can access the console on the installer   [alt] +[f2]   prolly not what you want tho
[05:40] <jeff_ii> GerogeW > typically stops gnome environment sounds - app launch, startup/shutdown, etc
[05:40] <Agamotto> No, common misnomer.  It keeps the system from CONSTANTLY restarting the server for new events/programs
[05:40] <tcpip> tonyarusso: data want be harmed ... right.. i mean i have set aside a 4gb fat32 for ubuntu
[05:40] <jeff_ii> agamotto> oh, does it?  my mistake, then,.
[05:41] <intelikey> tcpip can't use fat for linux
[05:41] <tcpip> intelikey: before i type expert or after
[05:41] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get the file broswer to display the address bar
[05:41] <Agamotto> jeff_ii:  It also depends a bit on your sound card... some it cuts out the Gnome sounds, others make it all behave together, according to program priority
[05:41] <davidmccabe> Hi folks.
[05:42] <tcpip> so i make an unpartitioned 4gb space? is that what u suggest ?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, Won't be harmed.  So long as you don't try to shrink it smaller than the used space.  And use one of the Linux formats for your Ubuntu partition, not FAT.
[05:42] <Agamotto> Howdy.  Welcome to our noisy bit of space
[05:42] <davidmccabe> I notice that abiword's spellchecker only knows about English English out of the box; I would like it to use American English instead. Any pointers? Thanks.
[05:42] <intelikey> tcpip you can't use fat for a linux installation     no fat no ntfs      yes unpartitioned  and the installer will make it linux native  'ext3'  when the time comes
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, That's the initial step, then make a new partition out of that space, and install Ubuntu to that.
[05:43] <tcpip> alrite
[05:43] <nox120> Hi
[05:43] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get the file broswer to display the address bar
[05:43] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> i have an answer regarding mouse wheel in X - scrolling is actually mapped to character keys if your x.org file contains ZAxisMapping 4 5.  if not, you are using moused
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Curious though, Ubuntu can read/write fat just fine, what's the missing link preventing it from using it for its install?
[05:43] <nox120> How can i know what is the current chmod on a file? thanks
[05:44] <intelikey> PERMISSIONS
[05:44] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> as they are mapped to keypresses, I guess the amount of scrolling is then really controlled by the client application...
[05:44] <meuserj> AMCDeathKnight: ctrl-L
[05:44] <jeff_ii> nox120: ls -l
[05:44] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i'm back. when i click Get Help Online, it opens 1.5
[05:44] <sambaseeker> I have a problem that transwer files to samba server is slow. For example to copy 500mb from XP to Ubuntu server it need 20minutes. Is this normal?
[05:44] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there away to have it on all the time?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, I do indeed have ZAxisMapping  4 5.
[05:45] <cyphase> yea!
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Where did you get this answer?
[05:45] <cyphase> new mouse :D
[05:45] <intelikey> linux could not control access or execution of files if installed on fat tonyyarusso
[05:45] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> then I would guess that you are at the merci of the apps.  found it here: http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/11.04.shtm
[05:45] <cyphase> fat sucks
[05:45] <cyphase> the file system
[05:45] <nox120> THanks jeff , Now is there a command to know the permission with number for example 400,500 etc
[05:45] <cyphase> well, the body size too..
[05:45] <cyphase> lol
[05:45] <intelikey> all permissions would appear as  777   world anything.
[05:45] <meuserj> AMCDeathKnight: yes... configuration option somewhere.. not sure if they have a gui for it or if it is only in gconf.
[05:45] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Ah.  Duh.  See my questions previously about Windows and permissions I suppose.
[05:46] <tcpip> intelikey: when do i type 'hdparam -d' before or after i key in 'expert' during installation
[05:46] <intelikey> tcpip idk  ask someone else about that please.
[05:47] <jeff_ii> nox120> you'll have to do the conversion yourself, actually.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Not every app has configurations for that though.  Do I just have to tough it out for those, or do the 4 5 mean something along the lines of a default to use in that situation?  (Checking out the link now.)
[05:47] <jeff_ii> nox120> instructions on how to do that are located in chmod's man page
[05:47] <wweasel> jeff_ii: how can i get the proper icon back?
[05:47] <meuserj> AMCDeathKnight: /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
[05:47] <nox120> How can i know the permission numbers ? like 400 , 500 , 777 etc
[05:47] <meuserj> oh.. he's gone..
[05:47] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> i think that the 4 5 are referring to the buttons mapping, and not scrolling values....
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Uh, file not found jeff_ii.
[05:48] <meuserj> nox120: they are octal numbers
[05:48] <Slaj_R> Question... If I installed a printer driver from a deb file, then can't see it in the list when I try adding the printer, what am I doing wrong?
[05:48] <dhirsch> May I ask a question for the you ubuntu jedis?
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Ah, missing the l at the end.  We're good now.
[05:48] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> my bad. pasting error.  append an "l" to the end. :)
[05:48] <nox120> Meuserj Ok and how can i know the octal numbers from a file?
[05:48] <jeff_ii> wweasel> are you actually attempting to change the icon on the launcher in the panel that you created earlier>
[05:49] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Go ahead
[05:49] <_maydayjay_> nox120 -- goto a terminal and type man chmod
[05:49] <dhirsch> Thank you :)
[05:49] <meuserj> nox120: rxwrx-rx- = 111 110 110 = 7 5 5 - just use ls =l
[05:49] <wweasel> jeff_ii: no. the one that appears in the top left corner of the window.
[05:49] <mishari> does anyone have experience using DRBL (disless remote boot in linux) with ubuntu?
[05:49] <jeff_ii> wweasel> not sure that I entirely follow.  what happened?
[05:50] <dhirsch> I just spent the past few days setting ubuntu up on my ibook, is there a (relatively) idiot-proof way to back everything up so I never have to do this again?
[05:50] <mishari> I just want to know how well it worked.. and if it's a recommended way of doing pxe boot / nfs root
[05:50] <Agamotto> That should be ls -l
[05:50] <wweasel> jeff_ii. nothing happened new. it's just that firefox doesn't have a proper icon. it has a little application window, rather than the right world icon.
[05:51] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Yes, what hardware/media do you have available for backups?
[05:51] <meuserj> mishari: I've never done it with ubuntu, but I used to have an old sparc LX that I booted disklessly with debian.. worked real well
[05:51] <wweasel> ubotu paste
[05:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:51] <dhirsch> Agamotto, CDRs and an old usb drive
[05:51] <jeff_ii> wweasel> well, the world icon actually identifies the next release of firefox, codename "Deer Park" that ubuntu chose to use as firefox (so it's not even 1.5 that you are using, it's more like... 2)
[05:52] <Delvien> How do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location
[05:52] <mishari> meuserj: did you use the diskless package?
[05:52] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Hrm... you would be best served by just backing up your /home partition, as this will have all of your data and setting files
[05:52] <wweasel> jeff_ii. ok but how do i set any icon. right now it's just the little app box
[05:52] <Delvien> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:52] <jeff_ii> wweasel> the other firefox (the 32 bit one) is the current firefox release.  so that the system menu icon (top-left) is probably now a function of your window theme more than anything.
[05:52] <meuserj> mishari: ah.. misunderstood your question.. I've never used the diskless package
[05:52] <Delvien> How do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location
[05:52] <dhirsch> Delvien, In gnome: it is in System tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[05:53] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok
[05:53] <wweasel> jeff_ii, can i delete the old icon on the panel now?
[05:53] <Delvien> dhirsch i have no such location. i was just looking for the sudo gedit /~~ location
[05:53] <dhirsch> Agamotto, I would like to backup the whole system. Patching the kernel is painful ; ;
[05:54] <meuserj> mishari: I believe you mean the "lessdisks" system.. and I've never used it, but based on the packages available, it looks pretty complete...
[05:54] <jeff_ii> wweasel> you can, because you most likely won't use the 64-bit "Deer Park" release for a little while longer now
[05:54] <dhirsch> Delvien, My appologies. Are you running Gnome another WM?
[05:54] <Delvien> dhirsch gnome
[05:54] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Easiest way is to get an external hd, and use Ghost for Linux, or somesuch to clone it
[05:54] <xsmogx> What's the name of that resource viewer for linux? It shows bandwidth, ram usage, and all that good stuff
[05:54] <dhirsch> Agamotto, Ooooh.. Ghost eh? Many thanks :)
[05:54] <Agamotto> gkrellm
[05:54] <xsmogx> ah that's it, thanks
[05:55] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i'm not using the 64 bit der park release. i just installed version 1.5, and what came with ubuntu was 1.0.7.
[05:55] <Delvien> How do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location sudo gedit / then what
[05:55] <dhirsch> I loves my gkrellm, the rubber ducky thingy ftw
[05:55] <nox120> How can i start a gui application as root ?
[05:55] <jeff_ii> Delvien> grub?  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:55] <jeff_ii> nox120> from shell, sudo <appname>
[05:56] <rhos> hello all a few probs i would like to ask you assistance in first my screen resolution is stuck at 640x480 there are no other options for screen resolution and this size does not fit my monitor at all secon is gettin frostwire to work its installed but will not load any help will be greatly appreaciated
[05:56] <Delvien> jeff_ii ah, was puting an I in list :(
[05:56] <dhirsch> Agamotto, Thank you for your help <3
[05:56] <xsmogx> do debian packages work on ubuntu?
[05:56] <nox120> jeff_ii I get error Gtk-WARNING : Cannot open display
[05:56] <mishari> meuserj: i set one up about 2 years ago.. ended up having loads of minor problems such as incomplete /dev some package did not belong there etc.
[05:56] <mishari> just wondering if it's "cleaner" now
[05:56] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> oh year.
[05:56] <wweasel> jeff_ii, thanks so much for your help.   It is highly suggested that you see if there is a version of the package you want in the Ubuntu archives (check http://packages.ubuntu.com/).  If yes, use that, if not, the Debian ones will probably be fine.
[05:58] <nox120> Jeff_ii I get error Cannot open display when i sudo gedit
[05:58] <jeff_ii> nox120> hmmm.  interesting.
[05:59] <jeff_ii> nox120> hang on.
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> I've seen that too sometimes when trying to run GUI apps from terminal with sudo, jeff_ii and nox120.
[05:59] <jeff_ii> nox120> try this: export DISPLAY=:0.0;sudo gedit
[06:00] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> used to see this a while back, thought it was now fixed...
[06:00] <Slaj_R> Can anyone help troubleshoot a printer driver problem?
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Apparently not.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Might want to file a bug, nox120.
[06:01] <nox120> Its not working
[06:01] <coz> Slaj_R what printer do you have
[06:01] <nox120> Can i start an app as another user , not from a console
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> nox120, Yes, one moment.
[06:01] <Slaj_R> Dell AIO 962
[06:01] <coz> Hold on I will check about this
[06:01] <Slaj_R> I tried installing the appropriate Lexmark driver, but no dice.
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> nox120, Applications > System > Run as different user (if you're in Gnome).
[06:02] <nox120> Unbuntu rox!!
[06:02] <nox120> THanks tonyy
[06:02] <jeff_ii> welp, that'll be all for me.  gnight folks.
[06:03] <coz> Slaj_R here's one solution  http://www.finebushpeople.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=98/
[06:03] <coz> Hold on
[06:03] <coz> Lexmark sonetimes makes dell printers so these drivers may work
[06:03] <computinchuck> what's the support for mp4/aac files like on ubuntu?
[06:03] <computinchuck> is there a way to rip a cd to that format?
[06:03] <intelikey> well guys i enjoy chating here in #ubuntu and helping what little i can, but in all fairness to truth it's self; i feel that i can no longer support a distro that i really dislike.   so peace to all of you and good bye.
[06:04] <S> lllllllllllllll
[06:04] <S> hoi ono wong ora????????????
[06:04] <coz> Slaj_R Lexmark manufatures dell printer so these drivers may work
[06:04] <Slaj_R> coz: Thanks.  I'll check it out.
[06:04] <viscount> any ruby users? Using Breezy and getting a readline errno even though libreadline-ruby libreadline4 libreadline5 are all installed, `irb>name = gets` fails with Errno:::ENOENT: No such file or directory - --readline
[06:04] <Agamotto> S:  Boku wa dare?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> computinchuck, Works fine for me.  Those are probably restricted formats though (? Confirm anyone ?), in which case you'll need to get codecs.
[06:05] <coz> Slaj_R also this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77817
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> computinchuck, Never tried the ripping thing though, just playing.
[06:05] <computinchuck> tonyyarusso, ah, ok.  i'm trying to build up a collection for my ipod and i know the aac format offers the best compression and sound quality...
[06:06] <viscount> Otherwise ruby works properly, its a strange error.
[06:06] <computinchuck> i've been using mp3 w/ variable bitrate and it gives pretty big files
[06:06] <viscount> I've even complied a few ruby-gtk apps and they work fine
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> computinchuck, Ah.  I listen to a online radio station stream in aac.  Check out !restrictedformats and !ipod if you haven't already.
[06:06] <Slaj_R> coz: I tried following the process in the second link you gave me.  I encountered the same trouble as arunsub.
[06:06] <Agamotto> computinchuck:  No one doubts that, but we would rather have a format/codec that doesn't restrict what devices we put our files on
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Agamotto, Do iPods care what format stuff is in?
[06:07] <Agamotto> No, but my car does
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Agamotto, Your car?
[06:09] <rat_hack> hey
[06:09] <computinchuck> Agamotto, i have an ipod that does play aacs and i'd like to take advantage of it
[06:09] <rat_hack> has anyone got tor working on ubuntu ?
[06:09] <Agamotto> I don't have inputs for a iPod, and would rather just make cds out of the files
[06:10] <Agamotto> To each their own
[06:10] <Agamotto> What, praytell is 'tor?'
[06:10] <rat_hack> proxy
[06:10] <rat_hack> http://tor.eff.org/
[06:10] <rat_hack> its pretty interesting
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> "anonymizing overlay network for TCP"
[06:10] <Artemis3> thank goodnes for tor, someone at clamav.net decided to blacklist my country...
[06:11] <rat_hack> lol that sucks
[06:11] <rat_hack> hey art how did you get it working on ubuntu
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Artemis3, What?
[06:11] <Artemis3> what you read
[06:11] <ilba7r> !openssh-server
[06:11] <ubotu> ilba7r: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:11] <ilba7r> !info openssh-server
[06:11] <Artemis3> i just confirmed after reading various reports on clamwin forums
[06:12] <rat_hack> their articals about tor and ubuntu their ?
[06:12] <Artemis3> no updates working seemed suspicious...
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> Artemis3, As in you can't do what?  Communications from you get blocked by people running it?
[06:13] <Artemis3> cant reach clamav.net
[06:14] <Artemis3> dont worry, i used tor to bypass and worked
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Artemis3, Interesting.
[06:14] <rat_hack> Artemis3 did you install tor on ubuntu ?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Can I make a line specify a section on a repo?  I want to get something from 'sound' in universe, but don't want to load the whole universe database (slow connection).
[06:16] <rat_hack> =\
[06:17] <nox120> Where is the apache2 website folder
[06:17] <nox120> ?
[06:17] <Slaj_R> coz:  I installed two new drivers, but they don't show up in the "Add a Printer" driver selection list.  Where do I find the drivers?
[06:18] <dissolutions> server irc.governmentsecurity.org
[06:18] <Kyral> ...
[06:18] <rat_hack> ...
[06:18] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso: no.
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> Fujitsu, Okay.  Oh well.
[06:18] <Fujitsu> nox120: /var/www
[06:19] <Fujitsu> Ahh. It feels good to be back. I haven't been here in a couple of weeks...
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> That would be a nice feature, btw.  Low demand though, I'm sure, so probably not going to happen.
[06:20] <coz> Ok there is a screen ruler at iconico.com that is really great but they have had only one person write them to create a linux version, and i was that one person.
[06:20] <Fujitsu> It would require a complete redesign of the APT system.
[06:20] <coz> write these people to get this great screen ruler onboard ubuntu
[06:22] <Fujitsu> coz, it isn't free, is it?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Can I make a looping thing on the command line saying "run this, and then do it again every 5 minutes", or would I have to set up cron for it?  (It would be temporary.)
[06:24] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[06:24] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you can loop, you can use at, you can use cron, lots of ways
[06:24] <Fujitsu> You can write a bash script with a loop containing the command and 'sleep 300'
[06:26] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: watch
[06:27] <CarlFK> sethk, Fujitsu - man watch too ;)
[06:27] <KingTiger> hello
[06:27] <sethk> CarlFK, that's sort of backhanded, but I guess it works
[06:27] <michael__> k, close to fixing my problem - I'm logged in as a user i created for somebody else. I know what I've always used as my root password, but it's not allowing me to log in as root from this account. I'm assuning that this account just isn't allowed to have root priveleges, so... If I log into a terminal my account then root w/ Ctrl+Alt+F1, how can I et this account to be able to use root?
[06:28] <CarlFK> sethk: how so?  seems watch is exactly what is needed
[06:28] <michael__> I figure I edited a file in a bad way thats causing my error on log-in, so I'm just going to create a new account for myself
[06:28] <sethk> CarlFK, the purpose of watch is just that, to watch something.  Not to do something periodically.
[06:29] <E7h3rN37> i was wondering if the intel x86 distro will run on an AMD64 CPU?
[06:29] <Fujitsu> Yes, it will.
[06:29] <CarlFK> michael__: "log in as root" or "do something as root" ?
[06:29] <E7h3rN37> and it will have the architectur support that the 64bit version doesnt?
[06:29] <michael__> i was to add pam to the sudoers account - where is it at?
[06:29] <E7h3rN37> like flash
[06:29] <Agamotto> Time to rest, I am starting to nod off
[06:30] <mike_> wow, this is my first time in IRC
[06:30] <CarlFK> michael__: /etc/sudoers
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> Thanks CarlFK.
[06:30] <Fujitsu> mike_ welcome.
[06:30] <CarlFK> michael__: but I think there is 'right way' to edit that
[06:30] <mike_> thank you
[06:30] <michael__> how is that?
[06:30] <michael__> i have it open in nano right now
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> seth_k, Fujitsu: I'd bother to make a script if I was planning on doing it much, but his is really just for today.
[06:31] <sethk> michael__, you use visudo
[06:31] <mike_> I can't get my Ubuntu box to print to my Canon Pixma printer.  I guess that's to be expected?
[06:31] <sethk> michael__, that's why there is a comment at the beginning of the file saying DON'T EDIT THIS
[06:31] <CarlFK> visudo
[06:32] <Johnny0> Evening all
[06:32] <nox120> tar -zxvf /../../home/nox120/Desktop/Downloads/phpMyAdmin-2.7.0-pl2.zip
[06:32] <nox120> gzip: stdin has more than one entry--rest ignored
[06:32] <nox120> .
[06:32] <nox120> Anyone can help?
[06:32] <michael__> visudo just opens the file in nano
[06:32] <Johnny0> Anyone know how I can use Firefox to play www.launch.com ?
[06:32] <Johnny0> They both require IE
[06:33] <Granis> How much time should I expect a compilation of the kernel 2.6.12-9 to take on a P4 3GHz with 512MN RAM, approximatly?
[06:33] <Johnny0> xm-radio and launch.com
[06:33] <CarlFK> what java package do I need to apt-get to run Azureus ?
[06:34] <CarlFK> Granis: 20 min (wag)
[06:34] <Kyral> ubotu: tell CarlFK about SunJava
[06:34] <michael__> can't I just add a comment then pam ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:34] <Granis> CarlFK Ok thanks, then i wont go to sleep quite yet :)
[06:34] <mike_> You can listen to Chaotic Lifestyles Radio using Ubuntu (www.chaoticlifestyles.com)
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> Is this a valid way to say this option for rsync?: --exclude="proc,dev,sys,tmp"
[06:35] <Johnny0> mike - Im wanting to listen to my xm-radio account
[06:35] <sethk> michael__, sure you can.  you shouldn't, but you can
[06:35] <madewokherd> Johnny0: what format do they use?
[06:36] <nox120> What would be the good Chmod permission for my /var/www folder?
[06:36] <CarlFK> nox120: 000 is safest ;)
[06:36] <Fujitsu> nox120: as it is?
[06:36] <Johnny0> windows media player
[06:37] <billytwowilly> doesn't 000 stop even root from doing anything to the file?
[06:37] <michael__> i typed man visudo and got into the file - how do i close out of viewing it?
[06:37] <Johnny0> would this be the plugin for netscape I am needing ?
[06:37] <CarlFK> billytwowilly: right.  can't get much safer than that
[06:37] <madewokherd> uh, you're using linux, right?
[06:38] <sethk> michael__, the man page you mean?  q
[06:38] <michael__> ty
[06:38] <nox120> Fujitsu i want to set it to 010 so i can set all files , then swittch it to default
[06:38] <billytwowilly> CarlFK, lol. I was just making sure. I haven't done file permissions in a long time;)
[06:38] <freelove> help me!
[06:38] <Johnny0> Im using ubuntu - yes
[06:38] <CarlFK> michael__: :q<enter>
[06:38] <nox120> What is default chmod for /var/www folder
[06:38] <madewokherd> Johnny0: then presumably it's covered somewhere in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats :/
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> billytwowilly, Root could still chmod it later though.
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> (Right?)
[06:38] <tech> is there anyone knows how to set the monitor not to automatic shut off while at standby?
[06:38] <CarlFK> michael__: thats 3 keys - collen q enter
[06:38] <freelove> i upgraded an app with synaptic........now i want old one back.......how do i do this?
[06:39] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso: Of course.
[06:39] <Johnny0> madewokherd: Im new to the ubuntu world
[06:39] <Fujitsu> freelove: Why?
[06:39] <Johnny0> if I had hours to read and resolve every issue Im having - I wouldn't be here :)
[06:39] <freelove> Fujitsu: for some reason......plz just tell me how to downgrade the ap with synaptic??
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I give up.  man rsync just isn't doing it for me to understand syntax.  How do I exclude multiple subdirectories of what I'm doing with rsync -a?
[06:39] <madewokherd> I think you want The Codecs section
[06:39] <michael__> damn, still not working
[06:40] <Fujitsu> freelove: On one of the menus is a 'Force version' option.
[06:40] <madewokherd> where it gives you a package to download and install
[06:40] <michael__> how can i add a user to the admin group via term
[06:40] <madewokherd> and the the mozilla plugin for mplayer
[06:40] <sethk> michael__, usermod
[06:40] <madewokherd> which is called mozilla-mplayer
[06:40] <michael__> ty
[06:40] <madewokherd> I *think* that should cover it :/
[06:40] <freelove> Fujitsu: but its not black.....i mean its faded......i cant click there!
[06:41] <Fujitsu> Have you got the package selected?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> It doesn't seem to like what I'm trying, so if anyone could give an example multi-directory exclude option to pass to rsync that would be great.
[06:41] <Johnny0> looking now madewokherd
[06:42] <michael__> damn, do i need to log out to reset my privs?
[06:42] <CarlFK> michael__: no
[06:42] <michael__> it's not working
[06:42] <freelove> Fujitsu: yes ive got it selected still dont get that option......
[06:43] <SenayB0x0r> hey, does ubuntu automatically mount a newly added hard disk?
[06:43] <CarlFK> michael__: make it work ;)
[06:43] <Fujitsu> freelove: Very odd.
[06:43] <sethk> SenayB0x0r, no
[06:43] <SenayB0x0r> bummer
[06:43] <SenayB0x0r> so how would i go about doing so...
[06:43] <borisattva> hello please
[06:43] <michael__> :'(
[06:43] <CarlFK> michael__: you can use the su command to switch user to the user that currently does have sudo privs, and fix things that way
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> I need to exclude /proc, /dev, /sys, and /tmp from rsync -av  /  <IP_ADDRESS>:/tonybackup/, and I can't figure out how to work the exclude option.
[06:44] <sri> hey daniel_s !
[06:44] <christs> Hey guys
[06:45] <michael__> i've been trying to make this account have sudo privs so that i can add an account - because the one that does have su privs won't work - i screwed it up
[06:45] <CarlFK> Kyral:  what java package is top of the list for dapper users?  as in, which one should I bother trying and sending off bug reports if it doesn't work?
[06:45] <christs> Anyone know how to mount a usb flash drive in Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:45] <Linuturk> what benefits does the install DVD have over the install CD?
[06:45] <thread> I'm wondering why I can't mount this external drive... and also it's not appearing to partition for the full 200Gb capacity... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111678
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> christs, Plug it in works for me, so if you're having issues, no.
[06:46] <christs> :(
[06:46] <daniel_s> im trying to use ndiswrapper and the 'modprobe' step cannot find the kernel module
[06:46] <freelove> how do i downgrade an app with apt?
[06:46] <borisattva> is there any negative sides to installing Kubuntu packages into a stable version of Ubuntu?
[06:46] <Linuturk> what benefits does the install DVD have over the install CD?
[06:46] <Johnny0> oh jeez
[06:47] <Johnny0> asking for a CD to install Rythymbox with synaptic !
[06:47] <Christs_servant> Linuturk, It can store more data
[06:47] <michael__> i opened a terminal - how can i log in as a dif user (like using sudo -s, but not for root)
[06:47] <raghu> Linuturk, more packages
[06:47] <Christs_servant> So you could have 1 dvd instead of 4 cds
[06:47] <freelove> how do i downgrade an app with apt?
[06:47] <borisattva> linu: dvd dobles as a live which make sit perfect for previews, but a down side is that not all pc's dvd drive are able to boot from it.. found that out the hard way
[06:48] <Linuturk> is there a list of those packages?
[06:48] <raghu> freelove, apt-get install appname
[06:48] <michael__> i want to run a term window as my installed user, then use that to login as su
[06:48] <nox120> I dont have php4 when i do apt-get install php4 , how can i get more sources??
[06:49] <freelove> raghu: i meant how do i downgrade it?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> freelove, See if man apt-get says something about forcing version.
[06:49] <raghu> freelove, you me remove?
[06:49] <Linuturk> is there a list of those packages?
[06:50] <freelove> raghu: no......install an older version......
[06:51] <CarlFK> michael__: su -
[06:51] <raghu> freelove, not preffered
[06:51] <borisattva> linu: if there is it would be on the website, so i guess no. i would think that the package list is the same as from dvd but the 'live' version of apps requires the additional space
[06:51] <Linuturk> raghu, is there a list of those packages
[06:51] <CarlFK> grrr
[06:51] <dotchad> what do i need to watch wmv files on ubuntu?
[06:51] <rat_hack> can anyone help me get tor working ?
[06:51] <nox120> I dont have Php4 on my apt-get , how can i fix this ???
[06:51] <rat_hack> i'm getting errors
[06:51] <rat_hack> =\
[06:52] <raghu> Linuturk, you to check in ubuntu site
[06:52] <Kyral> ubotu: tell nox120 about repos
[06:52] <nox120> !easysource
[06:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:52] <michael__> k, i think i can do this now - what is the program that edits users(graphically)
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> !tell dotchad about restrictedformats
[06:53] <sampan> how do i reformat/repartition a HD that is connected via USB?
[06:53] <dotchad> ?
[06:54] <Linuturk> raghu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=DVD+contents&titlesearch=Titles
[06:54] <sethk> sampan, the same way as any other drive connection
[06:55] <quacker> cfdisk /dev/usb0  (for the first USB dev)
[06:55] <quacker> i.e the first partition
[06:55] <sampan> sethk  hrmmmm ... i can't see any GUI tool to do that ... so i'm kinda looking for a cli hint (and i've never done partitioning/formatting via cli)
[06:55] <quacker> If you need to find USB buses, use lsusb
[06:56] <sampan> quacker  what if there are currently 5 partitions and i want to delete all but 2?
[06:56] <sethk> sampan, you partition with fdisk, and you format with mkfs
[06:56] <quacker> man cfdisk
[06:56] <sampan> k -- i shall do teh reading :)
[06:56] <CaptainMorgan> the ?
[06:56] <quacker> also, gparted or qtparted can 'automate' many tasks if you have them installed
[06:57] <CaptainMorgan> t eh ?
[06:57] <quacker> I believe that one or the other of them default installs with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[06:57] <quacker> Oh great, another grammar/spelling Nazi
[06:57] <quacker> =P
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> no exactly :/
[06:58] <Linuturk> can anyone point me to the contents of the ubuntu install DVD's? I've searched the wiki and forums with no results.
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> t e h in xchat is corrected automatically with the.. weird
[06:58] <freelove> ive installed w32codecs.......but kaffeine cant play rm files.....says "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so.6.0"
[06:59] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: its for the people like me that suck at speel typing :)
[06:59] <quacker> Linuturk, what do you mean?  Please rephrase your question.
[06:59] <CarlFK> as long as there is a lul...
[06:59] <quacker> CaptainMorgan, that's a rummy thing to do -- aarrrghh
[06:59] <Linuturk> quacker, I need to know what packages are on the DVD to see if it will help me with my problem
[07:00] <CarlFK> for those of you that duel boot, http://www.fs-driver.org "provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."
[07:00] <quacker> Linuturk, have you got Ubuntu installed?
[07:00] <freelove> ive installed w32codecs.......but kaffeine cant play rm files.....says "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so.6.0"
[07:00] <eXcentra> So I just got the new kernel and when I boot up Ubuntu, it shows the boot screen thing but it shows up as xubuntu
[07:00] <quacker> freelove, kaffeine-xine or kaffeine-gstreamer ?
[07:00] <emachine_> freelove, you need mplayer
[07:00] <Linuturk> quacker, no, i don't. I've got to use ndiswrapper-utils for my wireless before I can get net access with linux
[07:00] <eXcentra> it doesn't bother me, but how do i change it to normal ubuntu?
[07:01] <freelove> quacker: kaffeine-xine
[07:01] <emachine_> freelove, and why kaffeine?
[07:01] <Linuturk> quacker, so, I've got to see if that package is on the DVD
[07:01] <freelove> emachine_: mplayer is installed
[07:01] <Davey`> eXcentra: hehe, mine shows up as Kubuntu :/
[07:01] <eXcentra> lol :|
[07:01] <freelove> emachine_: amarok and xine also give same error
[07:01] <Sturgeon> freelove: do mplayer and totem play those files?
[07:01] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: click Settings > Advanced > Auto replace. you can set other common mistypes in there or remove the 'teh' replacer
[07:01] <emachine_> freelove, do you have the mplayer plugin installed?
[07:01] <freelove> emachine_: yes
[07:01] <freelove> Sturgeon: lemme se.....
[07:02] <emachine_> freelove, and how are you trying to play rm files?
[07:02] <quacker> Linuturk, it should autorun so you can browse it under window, but you'll h ave to know the specific filesnames of the packages you are looking for.
[07:02] <quacker> Otherwise you're stuck searching Ubuntu.Com as per usual
[07:02] <CaptainMorgan> lol Toma-  why do I have that as the only term in listed?
[07:02] <CaptainMorgan> weird
[07:03] <freelove> Sturgeon: yes mplayer plays it
[07:03] <Ripper> i need help
[07:03] <Linuturk> quacker, I haven't downloaded it yet. I want to make sure it's worth the several hours it's going to take to download. and, I've searched ubuntu.com
[07:03] <Sturgeon> then use mplayer
[07:03] <quacker> What pkgs do you want -- maybe I know if they're there
[07:03] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: just to demonstrate what it can do i guess
[07:03] <Linuturk> quacker, ndiswrapper-utils
[07:03] <cafuego> quacker: Ever tried 'apt-file' ?
[07:03] <Ripper> how do i set up my wireless card ?
[07:03] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: if anyone else uses xchat in your family, try replace "asl" with something silly :P
[07:03] <quacker> Linuturk, just bite the bullet
[07:03] <quacker> cafuego, he doesn't have Linux installed -- duhhh.
[07:04] <cafuego> quacker: Joyful.
[07:04] <freelove> mplayer plays the rm files but xine cant
[07:04] <Linuturk> quacker, I could, or I could just go to work Friday and use the LAN. I'd rather not spend my time at work though
[07:04] <sas171> hi, while shut down my kubuntu stops at the dns shut down. on the other terminal there is a message, something like: dbus_shutdown() was sen but the connections still alive. Ho can I fix it?
[07:04] <Davey`> I find Helix Player plays my Realplayer stuff just fine :)
[07:04] <SenayB0x0r> whats the best way to add a new HD in ubuntu?
[07:05] <Davey`> sas171: dbus and DNS do not have anything to do with each other...
[07:05] <Toma-> SenayB0x0r: stick it in, boot it up, and use it
[07:05] <Ripper> i need help
[07:05] <Ripper> someone msg me
[07:05] <Ripper> please
[07:05] <quacker> Linuturk, the DVD is 2.8 Billion bytes and the rest of the available packages are on repositories or CVS.
[07:05] <sampan> sethk and quacker thanks for the help -- qtparted made quick work of that -- i guess i didn't have it or gparted installed ... anyway, it's done -- thanks :)
[07:06] <sas171> Davey`: hm, the deal is, the last message on the screen is: Stopping dynamic network services... i think
[07:06] <quacker> Ubuntu has about 17k pkgs including multiverse and universe repos
[07:06] <quacker> (Debian has 15k+)
[07:06] <quacker> sampan, you're very welcome
[07:06] <Linuturk> quacker, I won't have internet access until my wireless is working. so I don't have access to those repositories unless the ndiswrapper-utils package is on that DVD
[07:08] <quacker> Linuturk, why don't you just d/l the ndiswrapper source while you're dling the Breezy ISO -- then youknow you have it for sure.  I'll check my apt-cache too for you.
[07:08] <quacker> Bets that it's there -- in the base section?
[07:08] <Linuturk> quacker, because I have no idea how to compile it, and that leaves tons of room for error on my part
[07:09] <Myrtti> I'm definitely too tired
[07:10] <Myrtti> besides if he downloads the source, he'll need build-essential and lots of other stuff too
[07:10] <quacker> cd [targetdir] ; wget [pkg]  && tar xvf [pkg] ; ./configure; make; make install
[07:10] <Lews> Are there any guides to installing Ubuntu from the LiveCD? I would like to replace an existing Linux installation with it, but don't want to download an install CD
[07:10] <quacker> same aws anything esle
[07:11] <Myrtti> more coffee
[07:11] <Fujitsu> ndiswrapper-utils is on the CD.
[07:11] <quacker> Linuturk, can't you just the darn thing inwhile installing so you can pull your Broadcom gak (or whatever) directly off the repos on t3h Intarweb?
[07:12] <quacker> errr, 'plug the darn thing in', that is?
[07:12] <Linuturk> my wireless is provided by my apartment complex; no ethernet plug in.   Well why didn't you *say* so.  Get that Wifi up and tell us, where does the community SSH in?
[07:15] <quacker> =oD
[07:15] <Linuturk> har
[07:15] <Linuturk> :-P
[07:15] <Fujitsu> Heheh
[07:15] <Sixth|579> how do I setup my 3D settings? (trying to setup cedega) do I have to download and install specific drivers for my card? (ATi All-in-Wonder Radeon 9800)
[07:15] <Fujitsu> I am going to grab Flight 2 in the next few days...
[07:15] <Ripper> i need help someone please msg me
[07:15] <quacker> Sixth|579, they're included
[07:15] <Linuturk> ha, 4 seeds for the dapper amd version
[07:15] <Myrtti> *sniffff* I smell testosterone
[07:15] <neighborlee> anyone know where ubuntu might be saving screen dumps after having pressed printscreen ?
[07:15] <quacker> Just installed on a customer's laptop.
[07:15] <Myrtti> Desktop
[07:16] <sethk> neighborlee, I believe it is in the directory tree at $HOME/.gnome2
[07:16] <Myrtti> unless chosen otherwise
[07:16] <quacker> *snorrrrt* I smell estrogen
[07:16] <Myrtti> *kiss*
[07:16] <polpak> Sixth|579: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[07:16] <Linuturk> I smell penguin fleas
[07:16] <quacker> *hug*
[07:16] <neighborlee> sethk; ok
[07:16] <neighborlee> thx
[07:16] <quacker> Penguins don't have fleas -- that's a window thing
[07:17] <Myrtti> I wonder where I've lost my #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:17] <Sixth|579> polpak, thank you, ill try that
[07:17] <quacker> Antarctica is too cold for flea eggs to ever hatch
[07:17] <quacker> Sixth|579, Linux should autodetect that ATI chipset
[07:18] <quacker> The FireGL drivers might not work but 2D works fine
[07:18] <polpak> quacker: it will work, but to get good 3d acceleration you need the FireGL drivers
[07:18] <polpak> quacker: since he's trying to use Cedega he'll want the drivers
[07:18] <quacker> heh, what I said polpak
[07:19] <neighborlee> sethk; nope that wasn't it ;(
[07:19] <freelove> YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I transferred contents of /usr/lib/real to win32 and now it works!!
[07:19] <MagicFab> hello
[07:19] <Fujitsu> Hi.
[07:19] <ysmael> hello
[07:19] <quacker> freelove, that's a good simple hack to know.  Thanks for telling us.
[07:19] <MagicFab> using XFCE, is there a command I can use to provoke suspend-to-ram ? Not usinga  laptop, so there' s no FN-F4 key combination
[07:20] <Lews> Is there any way to install Ubuntu to the disk from the LiveCD, similar to Gentoo's installation?
[07:20] <MagicFab> echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep to hibernate (suspend to disk) works OK
[07:20] <quacker> I guess kaffeine is using statically linked libs (and  not finding them all, either)
[07:20] <sethk> MagicFab, you can change the shortcuts and assign something to it, alt-whatever perhaps
[07:20] <polpak> Lews: unfortunately not. You'll need an install CD
[07:20] <Lews> polpak: k, thanks
[07:21] <MagicFab> seth_k: tried that but the key to suspend doesn' t do anything - tried several key combinations
[07:21] <MagicFab> using gnome-keybinding-properties command
[07:21] <quacker> MagicFab, STR is still pretty buggy, so it might not work at all on your system.  Also, it's disabled by default, so you need to enable it first.  For more info, you can try #ubuntu-laptop
[07:22] <monzie> hi all
[07:22] <monzie> can someone tell me exactly what packages do i need to install to start GTK/gtkmm development on Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:22] <MagicFab> It' s enabled (edited /etc/default/acpi-support and /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[07:23] <monzie> can someone tell me exactly what packages do i need to install to start GTK/gtkmm development on Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:23] <MagicFab> tx., pretty sure the machine does it, it's an old Compaq SFF desktop
[07:23] <fsn> hmm, what if the package i need isn't there? it's askig for "Miscellaneous - Graphical (restricted) > xorg-driver-fglrx" but it is not listed...
[07:23] <MagicFab> will keep looking
[07:24] <monzie> help please
[07:24] <fsn> this is sixth|579 from before =P
[07:24] <leftist> you want to see something completely deep and off the hook, look at this. www.whosarat.com
[07:24] <Myrtti> monzie: try to install the programs you need, and the package managment will tell you what other packages you need.
[07:25] <Myrtti> I need more coffee or sleep
[07:25] <ysmael> hello
[07:25] <amicrawler> were are the src for more deb apt gets
[07:25] <monzie> i installed glade-gnome but it still gives problems on "include<gtk.h> statements
[07:25] <monzie> i need the header files Myrtti
[07:26] <amicrawler> and what about nvidia drivers
[07:26] <monzie> if you are using 5.10 amicrawler , you can enable it from synaptic itslef IHMO
[07:27] <AMCDeathKnight> Somehow Windows was removed from the Grub Menu. How do I put it back?
[07:27] <amicrawler> what is IHMO?
[07:27] <Fujitsu> monzie: gtk-dev.
[07:27] <Fujitsu> In My Humble Opinion
[07:27] <monzie> In My Humble Opinion
[07:27] <calamari> AMCDeathKnight: that happens to me too sometimes.. wish I knew why it disappears
[07:27] <AMCDeathKnight> Yeh how do I fix it?
[07:28] <sethk> AMCDeathKnight, you just add three lines
[07:28] <sethk> AMCDeathKnight, info grub has them
[07:28] <calamari> AMCDeathKnight: go to a terminal.. type sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:28] <monzie> no Fujitsu , that did not work
[07:28] <Fujitsu> gtk2-dev?
[07:29] <monzie> lemme try Fujitsu
[07:29] <amicrawler> so how do i get the nvidia driver installed  do i goto nvidia wesite?
[07:29] <monzie> just lists python-gtk2- and another crappy lib
[07:29] <CarlFK> amicrawler: no.  sand by...
[07:29] <Fujitsu> What was the missing file?
[07:29] <coz> hello all again
[07:30] <CarlFK> amicrawler: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:30] <coz> happy 5th day of the new year
[07:30] <CarlFK> amicrawler: you will probably want nvidia-settings too
[07:30] <calamari> coz: not for 30 minutes :)
[07:31] <amicrawler> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:31] <amicrawler> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:31] <amicrawler> that is what it sayes
[07:31] <coz> well actuall y where I am it is 1:31 in the morning of the 5th
[07:31] <Hikaru79> amicrawler, that happens when you try to use apt-get or synaptic when synaptic is already running
[07:31] <monzie> its the gnome-devel package Fujitsu
[07:31] <Hikaru79> You can't run synaptic two times at once. Close any previous apt sessions first.
[07:31] <monzie> that did it
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[07:31] <coz> calamari AKA (Squid) where are you located
[07:31] <Fujitsu> I must remember that.
[07:31] <calamari> coz: arizona
[07:31] <coz> that'
[07:32] <coz> that's why
[07:32] <fsn> how do i enable direct rendering?
[07:32] <coz> I am in PA already the 5th
[07:32] <amicrawler> ok installed
[07:32] <Fujitsu> fsn: What card?
[07:32] <calamari> coz: mail me a cheesesteak, some water ice and a real pizza and wings.. please
[07:32] <fsn> ATI Radeon All-in-Wonder 9800
[07:33] <coz> lol well you knwo here in the pittsburgh area we have the best pizza avaiable in th eus
[07:33] <coz> the us
[07:33] <calamari> sorry for the offtopic :)
[07:33] <coz> yes me too
[07:33] <Fujitsu> fsn: Install fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx...
[07:34] <Fujitsu> And see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:34] <amicrawler> can i get xine with dvd encrypttions
[07:34] <amicrawler> or wine
[07:34] <fsn> Fujitsu, alright thanks, ill try that out
[07:35] <coz> amicrawler toten-xine is nicer in my opinion
[07:35] <amicrawler> all so can i get all the deb apt get- apps in this os>?
[07:35] <coz> amicrawler are you going to play dvds'
[07:35] <Fujitsu> Well.
[07:35] <Fujitsu> Interesting time to vanish.
[07:36] <coz> right in the middle of an inquiry
[07:37] <coz> guys I have been doing a little experimating with ubuntu
[07:37] <coz> I always knew that installing on a low formatted drive is best for any os
[07:37] <coz> but I am finding that ubuntu is especially sensitive to a dirty or previously occupied drive
[07:38] <coz> even if it was occupied by ubuntu
[07:38] <revmoo> i hope you have some evidence to prove that cos thats crazy talk
[07:38] <coz> The other day i had an install of ubuntu as I normally have it including the debian menu
[07:38] <revmoo> a drive should never ever need to be low level formatted, that's for the factory
[07:38] <coz> I purposly boroke it and then reinstalled WITHOUT low formatting
[07:39] <coz> after the install was finfished I found that i had the debian menu in the new install without having toadd it
[07:39] <coz> it was a bit querky but still there
[07:39] <CarlFK> revmoo: I think "low level format" has a different meaning here
[07:39] <coz> i found that uninstalling it was even a bit more querky
[07:40] <coz> I had to uninstall the invading debian menu and reinstall it on  buntu but hat didn't do it
[07:40] <thread> CarlFK: hey there! I've responded to your question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=628865
[07:40] <coz> the debian menu, AFTER install was no where to be found
[07:40] <coz> so I had to uninstall it and reinstall again to find it in the applications menuy
[07:40] <coz> menu
[07:40] <coz> I also found it immpossible to install the nvidia drivers on this dirty drive
[07:41] <coz> ubuntu woulnd't have it
[07:41] <coz> so after realizing, what aI already knew, I had to low format the drive and reinstall everything fresh
[07:41] <coz> I believe some problems that I have seen coming into this channel could be easily solved with a nice low formatted drive and thena reinstallation
[07:42] <Acill> I just got a new monitor and I cant get ubuntu to start now. It fails and tells me my xserver failed to start
[07:42] <CarlFK> thread: "Disk /dev/sda: 103.0 GB"  on a 200 - no clue.
[07:42] <Acill> how do I get into the settings to configure my monitor again?
[07:42] <thread> CarlFK: yeah.. weird isn't it?! ... I don't know what to think
[07:42] <Fujitsu> Acill: In a console, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:43] <CarlFK> coz - I wouldn't call it "low level format" - just "format" - "low level' is a thing from 1980's that isn't done anymore
[07:43] <Fujitsu> Basically accepting the defaults should get everything right.
[07:43] <thread> I wonder if there's something wrong with thie enclosure
[07:43] <site> hello anyone here?
[07:43] <CarlFK> thread: did the drive come in the enclosure ?
[07:43] <thread> no
[07:43] <thread> bought separately
[07:44] <thread> and of course it doesn't say anything about supporting linux
[07:44] <CarlFK> thread: let me get the box my $30 enclosuer came it.. wondering if there is a limit
[07:44] <sas171> how to install  rar unrar, seems like they arent in the repos...
[07:44] <site> i want to install vmware tools.. i did that already but it says u cant install when a guest operating system is not runnig
[07:44] <site> what is a guest operating system?
[07:44] <site> and how can i get thtat running?
[07:44] <Fujitsu> site: When you have an OS running in VMWare.
[07:44] <CarlFK> sas171: unrar-free
[07:44] <odat> hi everyone
[07:44] <site> Fujitsu, just like windows?
[07:45] <GerogeW> can sombody please tell me how i can access my soundcards inf file to edit it?
[07:45] <odat> just got my bittorrent client running beautiful for the first time with any client or OS
[07:45] <odat> little siked
[07:45] <Acill> thanks
[07:45] <odat> lol
[07:45] <Acill> working on it now
[07:45] <odat> by the way
[07:45] <odat> gnome rocks!
[07:45] <sas171> CarlFK: ok thx
[07:46] <testmachine> gnome and kde both rocks :)
[07:46] <Fujitsu> site: Yeah.
[07:46] <site> i dont know why windows runs so slow....
[07:46] <Fujitsu> GerogeW: inf file?
[07:46] <Fujitsu> site: In VMWare?
[07:46] <site> ive installed tools already
[07:46] <odat> testmachine, ehhhh
[07:46] <GerogeW> my mute button led is constantly on how can i fix this?
[07:46] <site> yes Fujitsu
[07:46] <GerogeW> the conf file
[07:46] <GerogeW> the file to edit the settings
[07:46] <CarlFK> thread: my compusa one says "up to 400gb"
[07:46] <GerogeW> i want to see if it is like my wifi where i added a option line and the led worked
[07:46] <Fujitsu> site: Things will run significantly slower in VMWare, as it must emulate everything through the host OS.
[07:47] <CarlFK> thread: so maybe your's has some other limit
[07:47] <paladinew> So how difficult is it to setup a secure tunnel using ssh from a xp box to my ubuntu box and setup a vnc session ????
[07:47] <CarlFK> paladinew: pice of cake ;)
[07:47] <n0dl> whenever i boot up i get a message that says failure in name resolution. My internet is not affected but what does it mean?
[07:48] <site> Fujitsu, but ive got a good system, and its running not fast
[07:48] <Acill> worked! thanks
[07:48] <site> ati x800
[07:48] <CarlFK> paladinew: I just talked a friend thorugh it last week... just a sec and I make some notes
[07:48] <Fujitsu> site: How slow?
[07:48] <site> and windows runs so slow
[07:48] <site> for example with scrolling
[07:48] <thread> CarlFK: yea that doesn't seem to be the case...
[07:48] <Fujitsu> paladinew: It's pretty easy.
[07:48] <site> it shakes when i scroll
[07:48] <amicrawler> so cani add repostitories to this os  like  deb apt apps?
[07:48] <CarlFK> paladinew: find the "allow loopback" setting in VNC server
[07:49] <site> thats slow huh Fujitsu ?
[07:49] <Fujitsu> Probably. What are the specs of the host and the VM?
[07:49] <morphix> does anyone know of an mp3,ape & mpc player that has media library and can handle 25,000+ songs.. rythmbox dies and lags for me :/
[07:50] <rhythminmind> hello i have a ? for you all....  i just replaced an ati 128 med card with a nvida 256.... X failed to start and i'm now at a cmd prompt... what do i have to run to install the new videocard?
[07:50] <GerogeW> when i restart my laptop it says "stopping wpa_supplicant-not started nothing to close" how can i have the supplicant on so that i can have my wpa settings working
[07:50] <odat> on this other machine i have i keep having file system error frequently as it is right now its so bad it keeps starting up and running fsck  any suggestions?
[07:50] <Carolyn> Hey
[07:50] <amicrawler> sudo to root sudo apt-get nvidia
[07:50] <site> host, amd 64 3400+, hdd total 450 GB, ati x800 pro. vmware, i dont know
[07:51] <Carolyn> is there a way to make Ubuntu play MP3s
[07:51] <rhythminmind> ok thanks i'll do that now
[07:51] <n0dl> does anyone know what the boot up error name resolution failure mean?
[07:51] <Carolyn> ya know without it knowing that they are
[07:51] <Hikaru79> rhythminmind, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:51] <amicrawler> xmms
[07:51] <CarlFK> rhythminmind: did you install ati drivers?
[07:51] <paladinew> carlfk: checking
[07:51] <odat> Carolyn, a couple ways
[07:51] <Carolyn> odat, really
[07:51] <Hikaru79> And then you can erase old fglrx drivers, comment out Module "DRI", etc
[07:51] <odat> Carolyn, depends what type of player you want to use
[07:51] <rhythminmind> the system was setup with a ati card at first
[07:52] <Carolyn> odat, ah that's true
[07:52] <n0dl> can someone please answer my question?
[07:52] <odat> Carolyn, honestly to take care of video and music stuff at the same time i would go install mplayer
[07:52] <paladinew> carlfk: on my ubuntu box I only have the built in terminal server client installed
[07:52] <odat> however i would do it a certain way first
[07:52] <Carolyn> odat, any of the players included in ubuntu or do I have to install
[07:52] <Carolyn> ah
[07:52] <GerogeW> if a tutorial says comment out-that means to delete right?
[07:53] <Carolyn> i am booting it off a CD
[07:53] <odat> Carolyn, are you familiar with synaptic?
[07:53] <cameron> anyone here good with ndiswrapper?
[07:53] <Carolyn> odat, i dont believe I have
[07:53] <site> thats weird huh Fujitsu ?
[07:53] <odat> Carolyn, are you running ubuntu?
[07:54] <Carolyn> yup as we speak odat
[07:54] <odat> Carolyn, then you already have it
[07:54] <Myrtti> live cd?
[07:54] <Carolyn> really
[07:54] <CarlFK> paladinew: here are my putty notes that are 'close' but don't give the steps for what you want
[07:54] <Carolyn> ya it is live
[07:54] <CarlFK> paladinew: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~Putty~SoftwareEng
[07:54] <odat> Carolyn, yup
[07:54] <Carolyn> does it matter what version
[07:54] <odat> Carolyn, oh your running a live cd?
[07:54] <site> is there a program in ubuntu for burning DVDr's ?
[07:54] <Carolyn> yah
[07:54] <odat> site, gnomebaker
[07:54] <Mez> site - k3b does :D
[07:54] <ejofee> what is the apt-get command which returns which files a packages installed on my machine?
[07:55] <site> odat, , i can burn isos with it?
[07:55] <GerogeW> i just did the tutorial for wpa supplicant i tried to start it but it says unsupported driver i have an intel ipw2200
[07:55] <odat> Carolyn, not sure how that works with the live cd version
[07:55] <cameron> odat: are you familiar with ndiswrapper at all?  xD
[07:55] <odat> site, yea
[07:55] <Carolyn> ah
[07:55] <GerogeW> did i do something wrong? do i need to update the driver
[07:55] <site> nice
[07:55] <Carolyn> my friend and I tried it yesturday
[07:55] <Carolyn> they were all read-only odat
[07:55] <Mez> site: you can with k3b too - one button on first start and you get to :D
[07:55] <odat> cameron, sorry no i havn't had a reason to use it
[07:55] <Mez> site: I made sure that button was there
[07:55] <viscount> anyone know the apt or dpkg command to list the files in a bundle?
[07:55] <site> cool MeeKs_
[07:55] <Mez> viscount, dpkg -L package
[07:55] <site> Mez,
[07:56] <viscount> Mez, thank you
[07:56] <Korupt> anyone know why in dapper the Apps menu would suddenly stop working right?
[07:56] <MeeKs_> hey
[07:56] <Carolyn> odat, Ubuntu hides the windows programs from the harddrive better than Knoppix
[07:56] <odat> Mez, k3b is so overrated and require too many kde libs
[07:56] <MeeKs_> whats cool?
[07:56] <Mez> Korupt - have you tried restarting
[07:56] <odat> Carolyn, ahhh i c
[07:56] <Korupt> Mez: 5-10 times now
[07:56] <Mez> odat: overrated - that's you're opinion :D kde libs - meh - I need to relibtool it :D
[07:56] <ubuntu_> jnnl;
[07:56] <Slaj_R> Can anyone direct me to a good printer driver wrapper?
[07:56] <ubuntu_> oop
[07:56] <viscount> Mez, happen to know which dir apt stores the bundles in?
[07:57] <ubuntu_> jpkpkpo
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> i like chicken
[07:57] <Korupt> Mez: (lost track of exactly how many times..... a bit tired)
[07:57] <Mez> viscount - you're on about the apt cache ?
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> and tacos
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[07:57] <odat> Slaj_R, ?
[07:57] <viscount> Mez, I am
[07:57] <Mez> Korrupt, where it stores the .deb files
[07:57] <Carolyn> odat, i know Debian and Ubuntu try to make a statement with mp3 files
[07:57] <site> i dont see it support DVDRs mez
[07:57] <Mez> visoucnt even
[07:57] <calamari> n0dl: are you on dialup?
[07:57] <Carolyn> they don't like them for some reason
[07:57] <Mez> site: it certainly does - have a look :D lol
[07:57] <Korupt> Mez: ?
[07:57] <Slaj_R> odat:  Specifically, I need to get a Dell 962 printer working in Ubuntu.
[07:57] <site> it does? so when i burn my iso, i can play it on standalone dvd-player?
[07:57] <Mez> Korrupt, nvm, got nto two convos
[07:57] <cameron> Anyone?  Ndiswrapper?  apparently no one is acive on #ndiswrapper
[07:57] <viscount> Mez, yes thats what I'm looking for, thought it would be in /tmp/apt or /var/apt
[07:58] <odat> Slaj_R, did you give cups a try first?
[07:58] <n0dl> calamari, no im on adsl
[07:58] <CarlFK> paladinew: (or someone) what is the command to start a VNC server ?
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> Carolyn: Ubuntu and Debian try to keep there distro as "legal" as possible.. so not including Applications to playback MP3's is just how they do..
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:58] <Slaj_R> odat:  How so?
[07:58] <Mez> viscount, /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:58] <viscount> ahh..
[07:58] <calamari> n0dl: ahh okay
[07:58] <crazney> hey.. i'm having a bit of confusion / problem with screensaver stuff.. It seems I only had xscreensaver installed, but it didn't have the switch user thing on the unlock box.. so i figured I would try and install gnome-screensaver, because it makes more sense that that has the box.. but now that gnome-screensaver is installed, 'lock screen' no longer works and I have two 'screensaver' options in my system->preferences menu.. anyone got
[07:58] <Korupt> Mez: oh yeah, and since i've started the upgrade I'm also now having package problems with cups and the rc file is broken
[07:58] <viscount> Mez, thanks again
[07:58] <n0dl> calamari why?
[07:58] <Seveas> crazney, bad idea, you need xscreensaver :)
[07:59] <Mez> CUPs isnt shutting down properly Korupt  ?
[07:59] <Carolyn> Mr_Milenko, is there away around the MP3 playack such as a loop hole?
[07:59] <crazney> Seveas: ok.. so any idea how to get xscreensaver to give me the unlock dialog box that it used to have? with the switch user button etc
[07:59] <purpleheart_USMC> Is $50 too much for a 300mhz P2 w/ 256mb ram?
[07:59] <Seveas> crazney, and xscreensaver from breezy has that switch user thing
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> uh.. you can install xmms O_o
[07:59] <crazney> Seveas: i'm using drapper or whatever it's called
[07:59] <Mez> Carolyn, there are packages in multiverse that will enable mp3
[07:59] <Fujitsu> purpleheart: Probably.
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> theres nothing blocking mp3 playback
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:59] <Fujitsu> Actuallu.
[07:59] <Fujitsu> Maybe not.
[07:59] <Mez> !tell Carolyn about mp3
[07:59] <Seveas> crazney, ah, that might be the cause
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> its just not there by default
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[07:59] <odat> Slaj_R, is that an all in one?
[07:59] <Fujitsu> The RAM is more than half of that price.
[08:00] <Seveas> dapper will eventually use gnome-screensaver
[08:00] <Carolyn> ah not there by default
[08:00] <Carolyn> yah
[08:00] <morphix> !tell morphix about ape
[08:00] <morphix> damn :(
[08:00] <Korupt> Mez: yeah and gives about five related errors (xsane, etc.) every time a package is installed/removed
[08:00] <Seveas> morphix, look in the mirror ;)
[08:00] <Mr_Milenko> purpleheart: I wouldnt pay 50 bucks for a 300mhz system..
[08:00] <morphix> !tell morphix about mpc
[08:00] <Slaj_R> odat:  Yes.  I've googled the heck out of this situation, and no Lexmark drivers I've installed are working.
[08:00] <Mez> Korupt, have you tried apt-get install -f ?
[08:00] <morphix> *stabs*
[08:00] <odat> Mez, how does that work on a live cd
[08:00] <purpleheart_USMC> ah
[08:00] <Korupt> Mez: wouldn't know exactly which package to force
[08:00] <morphix> !tell morphix about mplayer
[08:00] <Kindred> I tried gnome-screensaver because dapper will have it..  it's so basic you have to go into the conf editor to change the timeout time.. dumb..
[08:00] <bur[n] er> morphix: msg ubotu ;)
[08:00] <Mr_Milenko> just my opinion
[08:00] <Mez> odat: on a live CD? lol - yeah thats a paing
[08:00] <morphix> oh ok :P
[08:00] <Mez> Korupt: no - just run sudo apt-get install -f
[08:01] <Mez> it should fix things :D
[08:01] <Mez> did for me
[08:01] <site> damn, why is my vmware so slow?
[08:01] <crazney> Seveas: ah, i see from the changelog that they got rid of ubuntu changes to xscreensaver because they'll eventually ship with gnome-screensaver, which i'm guessing isn't ready yet?
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> whats your system specs site
[08:01] <site> my windows runs like shit in it..
[08:01] <viscount> Ok, anyone know how to use apt to download a package deb that is already installed? I just need to examine exactly which files it contains but its not in my apt/archives
[08:01] <Seveas> crazney, correct
[08:01] <crazney> hrm
[08:01] <site> host, amd 64 3400+, hdd total 450 GB, ati x800 pro. vmware, i dont know
[08:01] <site> Mr_Milenko,
[08:01] <Seveas> viscount, dpkg -L packagename
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> thats.. gay..
[08:01] <Korupt> Mez: will try it... should that also fix the issues with the init script?
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> that it isnt working
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:01] <site> well, it works...
[08:01] <site> but slow as hell
[08:01] <crazney> well that's annoying
[08:02] <crazney> oh well
[08:02] <liable> viscount: --reinstall
[08:02] <odat> Slaj_R, the Z600 Series driver that is on lexmarks site under linux drivers will probably work at least for printing that is what i use with my lexmark until i get rid of the damn thing lol
[08:02] <Mez> viscount - technically sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> will do
[08:02] <rhythminmind> ok thanks a mil... X started right up with the new nivid card... should i do anything to cleanout the old ATI stuff? is there anything?
[08:02] <site> do you know anything about it Mr_Milenko ?
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> nope.. cant help ya there
[08:02] <site> how i can speed it up
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> everythings slow for me
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[08:02] <odat> Mez, thats what carolyn is using
[08:02] <Mez> Korupt, not with the init script - no - I just edited mine to force a kill :D
[08:02] <site> k
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> 399mhz Gateway POS 3000
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:02] <Mez> odat, didn't know that - but if she has 2 Drives :D
[08:02] <odat> Mez, lol
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> and i run windows
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[08:02] <crazney> ok.. another question then. does anyone know where the system->preferences->window whatever prefernce thing went? or how i can get to it in the mean time?
[08:02] <Slaj_R> odat:  I installed the Z600 driver, and when a job is sent, the printer doesn't respond.
[08:03] <demona> HAH
[08:03] <demona> i fixed samba's little red wagon
[08:03] <viscount> Seveas, thats cool, I thought I would have to have the package in my apt/archives and go `dpkg -L archives/package.deb` for that to work, thanks man
[08:03] <Mez> demona, "little red wagon" ?
[08:03] <Seveas> viscount, hehe
[08:03] <demona> recap: mplayer to play mp3's from a samba share would run fine, but xmms would make smbiod peg the CPU at 100% at the same point every time.
[08:03] <odat> Slaj_R, this may sound weird but it worked for me i shut down my computer then turned off my printer waited a few seconds turn on my printer then my computer and presto
[08:03] <Mez> viscount - no as long as the package is installed dpkg -L will work :D
[08:04] <Johnny0> OK
[08:04] <viscount> Seveas, love it when stuff just makes sense like that
[08:04] <demona> i unmounted the samba share and remounted it as type CIFS instead of SMBFS
[08:04] <Seveas> viscount, to answer your original question: apt-get -d install --reinstall packagename
[08:04] <Johnny0> NO GO !
[08:04] <demona> problem solved.
[08:04] <Johnny0> grrrrrrr
[08:04] <Korupt> Mez: working on a pastebin entry for package problem
[08:04] <viscount> Mez, yeah, thats really cool, good to know!
[08:04] <Johnny0> IF anyone in here can walk me through being able to listen to www.xm-radio.com         or www.launch.com I will paypal you $20.00 !
[08:04] <Mez> Korupt, poor you
[08:04] <Slaj_R> odat:  I'll try it, but I may just have to replace the printer.
[08:04] <Korupt> Mez: http://pastebin.com/491392
[08:04] <Mez> Johnny0, lol - or you could just try asking !
[08:05] <CarlFK> paladinew: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~Putty~SoftwareEng (look for the new section I made for you.  Let me know if it works )
[08:05] <Johnny0> I have Mez :)
[08:05] <Slaj_R> odat: How long do you usually wait for a job to start?
[08:05] <odat> Slaj_R, not long
[08:05] <Johnny0> spent an hour and about to chunk this lappy outta frustration :) Im new to this strange ubuntu/linux world
[08:05] <viscount> Seveas, -d == download only, or something?
[08:05] <odat> Slaj_R, like i said i sort of put up with it for now but i'm getting an hp soon
[08:05] <site> is there a good ftp client like flashfxp for ubuntu?
[08:05] <Seveas> viscount, correct :)
[08:06] <odat> site, gftp
[08:06] <viscount> Seveas, yeah, more sense.. love it
[08:06] <Madpilot> site: there's gFTP, but it's fairly awful, I'm afraid...
[08:06] <Mez> Johnny0, I believe they use some sort of proprietary windows only thing
[08:06] <Seveas> site, gftp, places -> connect to server
[08:06] <site> where i can paste the ftp://look:look@<IP_ADDRESS>:2222
[08:06] <CarlFK> site - the file manager has it built in.  Look for "Connect/Server" or some option
[08:06] <odat> Madpilot, i like it lol
[08:06] <paladinew> carlfk: looking
[08:06] <site> ok
[08:06] <Seveas> site, but generally linux people son't like ftp and use sftp instead :)
[08:06] <site> sftp?
[08:06] <BlackJudas> keir, I remember reading about setting a flag for the ubuntu installer to support/offer jfs ... what is that again?
[08:06] <odat> site, there is also an extension for firefox just out that turns firefox into a nice ftp client but i haven't used it
[08:07] <Mr_Milenko> if you need an ftp app use gftp
[08:07] <Mr_Milenko> its teh pwn
[08:07] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:07] <Johnny0> Im going through withdrawals meepy metzen_Mez
[08:07] <BlackJudas> gah... wtf autocomplete ...  I remember reading about setting a flag for the ubuntu installer to support/offer jfs ... what is that again?
 site, there is also an extension for firefox just out that turns firefox into a nice ftp client but i haven't used it
[08:07] <Madpilot> odat: I dislike it because it always seems to screw up one connection I need, and it has NO documentation at all...
[08:07] <CarlFK> site: just like ftp, but change the ftp to sftp in that thing Seveas said ;)
[08:07] <BlackJudas> :/
[08:07] <BlackJudas> seriously ... heh
[08:07] <site> hm ok
[08:07] <amicrawler> what do i after install them  the nvidia drivers
[08:07] <site> but is gftp like flashfxp?
[08:07] <Johnny0> Is there no way to play WMA format using Totem ?
[08:08] <Seveas> amicrawler, run & hide :)
[08:08] <Seveas> Johnny0, totem-xine+w32codecs
[08:08] <odat> Madpilot, ahhh never got that problem but hey i get a lot of problems no one else gets soo lol
[08:08] <Madpilot> Johnny0: the w32codecs do wma
[08:08] <cameron> probably a stupid question, but how do I extract an exe?
[08:08] <Seveas> cameron, maybe with unzip, otherwise not
[08:08] <odat> site, its called a web browser go look it up
[08:08] <Madpilot> odat: it's mostly the lack of documentation that irritates me...
[08:08] <amicrawler> xine does wma and mp4 and mpg1,2,3,4
[08:08] <CarlFK> cameron: huh?  exe's dont extract ....
[08:08] <odat> Madpilot, ahh understood
[08:08] <site> i see it odat
[08:08] <site> installed gftp
[08:09] <Seveas> CarlFK, Self-extracting zips do :)
[08:09] <xae> hey
[08:09] <CarlFK> Seveas: good point
[08:09] <cameron> CarlFK: get files from it, for a driver... for my wifi card.
[08:09] <sagarp> how can ig et totem to play from an iso file withotu mountint it
[08:09] <sagarp> mounting*
[08:09] <amicrawler> seveas relly do i just restart x  and that's it  and it works?
[08:09] <site> do i have to fill it all in manualy?
[08:09] <Seveas> amicrawler, when you're lucky :)
[08:09] <site> or can i paste ftp://look:look@<IP_ADDRESS>:2222   ?
[08:09] <site> cos i hate doing that manually
[08:10] <CarlFK> cameron: worst case, use wine (kinda overkill, but will probably work)
[08:10] <odat> site, you can have bookmarks
[08:10] <site> hm..
[08:10] <monzie> how do i export contacts in some other format than .vcf in evolution
[08:10] <site> but is there a client where i can paste it?
[08:10] <odat> sagarp, an iso or a bin file?
[08:11] <sagarp> odat: iso
[08:11] <harris> i was wondering if anyone could help me out with someting.. i made the mistake of delating the bottom panel, now when I minmize applications they disspear, is there a way to restore it?
[08:11] <odat> site, i only ever used gftp
[08:11] <site> odat, well, i only used flashfxp
[08:11] <odat> sagarp, you could mount the iso but its a little tough
[08:11] <harris> when i create a new panel, it doesn't seem to house the minimize appz
[08:11] <xae> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on HDB (I've got windows installed on HDA)... I previously had SuSE installed on HDB.   Anyways, I did the install, and now it is giving me "Error Loading Operating System" upon boot... anyone have any ideas?
[08:11] <odat> site, then get used to something else
[08:11] <Johnny0> Seveas: I know Im sounding really ignorant - but where do I find the w32codecs or how do I install them ?
[08:11] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[08:11] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:12] <sagarp> odat: yeah, but i want to know if totem can just play the iso directly..it's the image of a dvd...i read that it's possible somewhere but it didnt explain how
[08:12] <site> odat, but i just need to paste the ftp..... its just too handy
[08:12] <odat> sagarp, are you unable to burn it?
[08:12] <site> i cant fill that in manually
[08:12] <Korupt> xae: did you install the boot loader to partition or MBR?
[08:12] <site> it takes too much time
[08:12] <sagarp> odat: i dont want to burn it...i copied the image from a dvd in the first place
[08:12] <BlackJudas> No one remembers?
[08:12] <odat> sagarp, i don't believe it can the only thing i know of that is similiar is vlc can play bin files
[08:13] <sagarp> hmm
[08:13] <Seveas> harris, add the window list to the panel
[08:13] <xae> Korupt: I believe it was /dev/hda    was the option... I'll look this time for the MBR if possible
[08:13] <Madpilot> site: Nautilus - the file manager - can do FTP links too
[08:13] <site> is that a program?
[08:13] <site> the file manager?
[08:13] <sagarp> odat: i guess i'll settle for mounting it then =P it's just a hassle to mount/umount whenever i want to change the disk or whatever
[08:13] <odat> sagarp, you might beable to mount the iso as a cd then play it
[08:13] <harris> where do I find the window list?
[08:13] <xae> Korupt: it's almost done reinstalling once again... =x
[08:13] <sagarp> odat: yeah that's what i do already
[08:13] <Johnny0> Thanks Seveas !
[08:13] <Johnny0> downloading them now
[08:13] <Madpilot> site: Places menu --> Home Folder - the app that starts is Nautilus
[08:13] <Korupt> xae: your old install probly installed to MBR... and MBR takes prefernce over partition
[08:13] <harris> it's not in the options when you click 'add to panel'
[08:14] <odat> sagarp, yea that does stink but i don't believe you can just read an iso with totem
[08:14] <xae> Korupt: how can I make ubuntu install to mbr? (90% done...)
[08:14] <sagarp> fie!
[08:14] <Acill> Whats the major differences between debian and ubuntu? I hace both on this system and they feel a lot alike.
[08:14] <Dr_Fie> sagarp: hmm?
[08:14] <Myrtti> sudo and friendlier community
[08:14] <coz> Acill ubuntu is based on debian
[08:14] <Seveas> !debian
[08:14] <odat> Acill, well ubuntu is based on debian
[08:14] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[08:14] <Seveas> ^-- Acill
[08:15] <xae> okay, I hit "YES" install grub to the master boot record
[08:15] <coz> It is essencially debian
[08:15] <sagarp> dr_fie: lol! sorry, i was using "fie" as an expression!
[08:15] <xae> it says "Detected Microsoft windows XP Pro"
[08:15] <Seveas> read that page for more info
[08:15] <odat> Acill, but ubuntu is a lot more active and little more up to date then debian at the moment
[08:15] <Dr_Fie> sagarp: Oh :)
[08:15] <Acill> does it have any advantages over Debian?
[08:15] <Seveas> xae, that means it'll wipe windows for you as extra service
[08:15] <Seveas> (justkidding)
[08:15] <odat> Acill, ubuntu has their own repositories as well
[08:15] <site> i see thanx Madpilot
[08:15] <coz> Acill not if you are used to using debian
[08:15] <xae> hitting continue... *waits for reboot*
[08:15] <Seveas> Acill, read the page ubotu gave for more info
[08:15] <harris> seveas thanks i figured it out!
[08:15] <coz> seveas is right
[08:16] <Korupt> xae: good question..... I usually hand compile my distro based on Linux From Scratch, this is my first Ubuntu install
[08:16] <odat> Acill, i believe many like active support and developement of the latest and greatest stuff
[08:16] <coz> sorry wrong people
[08:16] <Acill> coz: The only thing I notice in this debian install is a lot more of my hardware seems to work
[08:16] <xae> Korupt: "Error loading operating system_"   the _ is blinking
[08:16] <Madpilot> Myrtti: nice four-word summary of Ubuntu! :P
[08:16] <Korupt> xae: disconnect the windows drive to rule it out
[08:16] <coz> Yes ubuntu is a bit behind on some things even the applications but I think they are on the right track
[08:16] <Acill> coz: in ubuntu my sound card never wuite seems to work
[08:16] <odat> Acill, what isn't working on ubuntu?
[08:16] <coz> join the many
[08:16] <CarlFK> Korupt: I used to compile everthing too.  turns out the distro guys are more on top of things than I am
[08:17] <rhythminmind> the gnome resolution utility is only going up to 1280-960  ... how can i set this to 1280-1024?
[08:17] <Madpilot> !fixres
[08:17] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:17] <Korupt> CarlFK: that's not always a good thing
[08:17] <Seveas> CarlFK, not a miracle given that you're one person and they are many people :)
[08:17] <coz> there is one problem ther the resolution
[08:17] <Johnny0> Seveas: root@JohnnyODel:~/Desktop# sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:17] <Johnny0> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[08:17] <Johnny0>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:17] <Johnny0> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:17] <Johnny0>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:17] <Myrtti> Madpilot: those are about the only differences I've come up with ;-)
[08:17] <Johnny0> sorry for the scroll :(
[08:17] <odat> rhythminmind, what kind of graphics card?
[08:17] <Seveas> Johnny0, type the correct filename
[08:17] <Myrtti> !tell Johnny0 about pastebin
[08:17] <Korupt> Johnny0: ever heard of pastebin.com?
[08:17] <chop> hi there, i have a problem when installing ubuntu on my laptop, it's getting hotter than in windows. 1 fan doesnt work. My laptop is sony vaio VGN A170B. Thanks
[08:18] <rhythminmind> nvidia 5500
[08:18] <Hobbsee> is anyone here on dapper, and have they got the xorg updates (within the last few hours)?  If so, is X now broken, or does it still work?
[08:18] <coz> Hobbsee i uninstalled dapper not woth it yet
[08:18] <Korupt> speaking of.....  heeeeeellllllppppp  http://pastebin.com/491392
[08:18] <coz> worth
[08:18] <odat> Johnny0, hold on use this repository deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[08:18] <xae> Korupt: same error
[08:18] <Korupt> Hobbsee: I'm working through some nasty errors with it myself
[08:18] <Hobbsee> coz: yeah, but i just want to know if people have had problems with the latest xorg update, before i say "yes, i want to update"
[08:18] <odat> Johnny0, and this one deb-src ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[08:18] <Acill> When I run the update manager and it installs the new updates do the downloaded files and the old files get flushed out of the system?
[08:18] <coz> chop has a reall problem guys give him a hand
[08:19] <Hobbsee> Korupt: what errors?
[08:19] <Korupt> Hobbsee, http://pastebin.com/491392
[08:19] <nije> How to play mp3's in Ubuntu
[08:19] <coz> Hobbsee I don't know about the update but give it a try
[08:19] <chop> coz any suggestion coz?
[08:19] <odat> Acill, usually unless its a kernel update then you have to get rid of the old kernel manually through synaptic
[08:19] <coz> chop no I haven't installed on any laptop as of yet
[08:19] <HIghoS> The OpenOffice debs are broken though, won't install properly.
[08:20] <Korupt> Hobbsee, gnome glitch && cups glitch && reboot init script glitch
[08:20] <Nije> hello any1?
[08:20] <coz> sorry guy someone here should have some idea what to do
[08:20] <odat> Nije, with what player?
[08:20] <coz> if you can get their attention
[08:20] <Nije> rythm jukebox
[08:20] <Madpilot> !tell Nije about mp3
[08:20] <Hobbsee> coz: ok
[08:20] <chop> coz: ok, ill try :D
[08:20] <odat> Nije, familiar with synaptic?
[08:20] <Korupt> 'course I've almost given up on any hope that I'll fix them all
[08:20] <Nije> yes
[08:21] <cameron> Ha!  cabextract is a wonderful program.
[08:21] <Hobbsee> Korupt: i had some of those errors, and then i updated and upgraded later in the day, and they went away by themselves - which mirror are you using?
[08:21] <coz> chop is haveing a problem with ubuntu on hislaptop
[08:21] <chop> guys, my laptop's getting hot
[08:21] <Madpilot> Nije: see the pm the bot just sent you for mp3 info
[08:21] <odat> Nije, then add the two repositories i said above then add you gstreamer plugins
[08:21] <coz> any of you experienced with laptop installs
[08:21] <chop> one fan doesnt work
[08:22] <Korupt> Hobbsee: us.archive.ubuntu.com      you?
[08:22] <borisattva> does anyone have any ideas on how to find out which plug in is necessray for www.isketch.org  .. not having this game is the only reason i am sorry i sacked windows for good in favor of ubuntu
[08:22] <coz> chop the fan itself may be bad
[08:22] <chop> no
[08:22] <coz> ok
[08:22] <chop> coz: it works in windows
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Korupt: gb.archive.ubuntu.com <-- US mirrors used to be borked, and late, not sure if they still are
[08:22] <Stork> hi, can anyone help me install cadega? It says I need transgaming deb package but i don't know where to find it
[08:22] <odat> chop, how do you know the fan works in windows?
[08:22] <coz> did you low format the drive before you install ubuntu
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Korupt: probably worth switching over to gb
[08:22] <CarlFK> borisattva: shockwave...
[08:23] <chop> coz: i have had a look in the forum but didnt get any thing
[08:23] <borisattva> carl: i have that installed. but no go. doe sit work fo ryou?
[08:23] <Stork> (GB owns)
[08:23] <coz> chop Ok but did you install this over the windows install
[08:23] <Hobbsee> Stork: ask that in #cedega
[08:23] <chop> odat: i used my hand :)
[08:23] <Nije> but i dont havea dialup connection
[08:23] <Stork> oh, good plan
[08:23] <chop> odat: feel the wind flow
[08:23] <Nije> I also could not connect to the internet
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> Can VNC be used for a console as well, or just X?
[08:23] <chop> coz: yes, i did
[08:24] <coz> Ok that may be a lisght problem hold on I will give the url for the iso
[08:24] <coz> http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/drivers/discwiz.html
[08:24] <odat> chop, well i can't say that i often turn on my machine and feel the fans lol
[08:24] <Korupt> Hobbsee, Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main
[08:24] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: for console use ssh - openssh-server
[08:24] <coz> chop go to bottom of page and choose cd iso
[08:24] <coz> burn that to disk put in cd rom rebott and choose utilities
[08:24] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: "all" unix has ssh client, putty.exe for windows
[08:25] <coz> then write zeros to drive (full)_
[08:25] <chop> odat: it is hottest at the bottom of the box
[08:25] <coz> mau take up to an hour mor more
[08:25] <chop> coz: thanks
[08:25] <Nije> Where can i ask for modem drivers for linux?
[08:25] <site> is freebsd the best OS around?
[08:25] <coz> chop come back tomorrow and let us know if the fan works after that
[08:25] <coz>  unfotunately sony computer are very proprietary
[08:26] <CarlFK> site - no.  BOB is best ;)
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> CarlFK, I'm wondering if I could use this to help friends, and have a setup where I could type a command, they could see it, then they could type something in the same console, and I could see it, and the output.
[08:26] <odat> site, freebsd is cool but i believe linux has much more support
[08:26] <chop> thanks guys
[08:26] <Hobbsee> Korupt: my sources list:  http://pastebin.com/491404
[08:26] <coz> have a good one CHOP
[08:26] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: even better, if you can ssh into another box, you can issue commands there just as if you were sitting in front of it yourself...
[08:26] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: check out the screen command.  you want "screen -x" to connect to... hmm
[08:26] <Nije> hello where can i get the linux drivers for modems?
[08:26] <site> more support? but what is more stable? and do you think i could learn a lot from freebsd?
[08:27] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: yes - screen -x
[08:27] <Johnny0> All of our servers are FreeBSD - but I can't manage them ! :(
[08:27] <site> why not
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Okay, CarlFK and Madpilot.
[08:27] <CarlFK> site - dos6.11 is probably the most stable OS ;)
[08:27] <site> really?
[08:27] <Johnny0> GWBasic
[08:27] <coz> yess doss
[08:27] <Adross> don't ask me how, but my /home partition has become slightly corrupted. Stull usable, but fsck always fails at start up
[08:28] <site> Dos is better then freebsd?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> (btw, figured out VNC to be running this from a computer next to the one it's actually one, sort of fun.)
[08:28] <coz> dos is rock solid
[08:28] <morphix> in a playlist file.. would
[08:28] <morphix> #EXTINF:274,8Ball & MJG - You Don't Want Drama
[08:28] <morphix> 8Ball_And_MJG-Living_Legends-_Retail_-2004-RNS\02-8ball_and_mjg-you_dont_want_drama-rns.mp3
[08:28] <Korupt> Hobbsee, this xorg change makes me nervous
[08:28] <Johnny0> odat:
[08:28] <morphix> would that work for relative path?
[08:28] <Johnny0> sent you a PM
[08:28] <Adross> i am now on slax, a live distro, with fsck 1.35. What command show i whack in to fix my /home partition?
[08:28] <alvyn> my god I can hardly read the screen
[08:28] <odat> Johnny0, ?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> Korupt: yeah, not seeing any feedback from anyone yet
[08:28] <site> and what about Unix??
[08:28] <alvyn> everything is wavy
[08:28] <Korupt> Hobbsee, well... the system already has issues so I might as well
[08:28] <alvyn> waving from top to bottom
[08:28] <coz> solaris 10 is free from sun give it a try I didn't like it
[08:29] <alvyn> but only one screen image
[08:29] <coz> there are otherflavors
[08:29] <Hobbsee> Korupt: hehe ok then!  you know how to use irssi and w3m if it all screws up?
[08:29] <Madpilot> site: you're on a Linux distro's chat room, you're going to get biased answers here :P
[08:29] <coz> irix is great but very proprietary
[08:29] <Hobbsee> Korupt: and various other console apps?
[08:29] <Adross> will fsck /home work?
[08:29] <coz> must have hardware from silcon graphics I believe
[08:29] <alvyn> I went to preferences Screen Resolution
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> One thing I'm still confused about though: Does there have to be someone on the computer you're trying to connect to with VNC, logged in, and able to accept your connection?  Could you set it up so the server computer would only have to be turned on, and be able to log in and authenticate yourself?
[08:29] <site> biased answers?
[08:29] <cameron> anyone know how to make ndiswrapper load on startup?
[08:29] <site> i dont understand that word
[08:29] <Korupt> Hobbsee, to put it mildly..... I normally use Linux From Scratch... so I know my way around a terminal
[08:29] <alvyn> and there is only 640x480 and 60hz refresh
[08:29] <site> but i guess it means mixed?
[08:30] <Hobbsee> Korupt: hehe oh good!
[08:30] <coz> site if you have the time try everything avaiable
[08:30] <Korupt> Hobbsee, actually... I only used Ubuntu cause I wanted something easy on my laptop
[08:30] <alvyn> hhmmm maybe it lost the video card install or something
[08:30] <site> well
[08:30] <site> i think i better run linux in windows.. then windows in linux
[08:30] <Hobbsee> Korupt: nice, so you are very used to breakage
[08:30] <site> correct?
[08:31] <alvyn> site no
[08:31] <site> this is too slow for me
[08:31] <odat> site, what the hell are you talking about
[08:31] <alvyn> I must say that is the wrong approach
[08:31] <xae> hrmm
[08:31] <site> no?
[08:31] <site> well odat  im using windows in linux with vmware now
[08:31] <Korupt> Hobbsee, more of the opposite once I have it installed.... my LFS server has been up for six months without so much as a peep
[08:31] <site> and its slow as hell
[08:31] <coz> site do you need windows for something high end?
[08:31] <coz> If so keep it
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Korupt: nice!
[08:32] <site> yes i do coz
[08:32] <xae> outve curiousity, anyone know how vs.net 2005 runs under vmware?
[08:32] <site> coz, thats the reason why
[08:32] <coz> then don't bother with linux
[08:32] <coz> it has few high end apps aviable and the ones it does have
[08:32] <site> dont bother? u mean dont use  it?
[08:32] <alvyn> help I need to fix the screen before I go dizzy and fall over
[08:32] <coz> are costly and require higher end computers to run
[08:32] <coz> ubuntu is great, right now, for normal usage
[08:33] <coz>  email, internet, etc, and server uses
[08:33] <site> hm, your right
[08:33] <site> i agree totally
[08:33] <site> i should format and install windows
[08:33] <UltraVi01> has anyone got World of Warcraft to on Wine?
[08:33] <coz> us the Os that is right for what you need to do
[08:33] <site> and run linux in vmware
[08:33] <coz> vmware would be nice
[08:33] <Adross> anyone? fsck? help?
[08:33] <Korupt> Hobbsee, inclusing changing out Bind9 (which blows) for dnsmasq
[08:33] <xae> UltraVi01: isnt there a wiki entry about that?
[08:34] <coz> you can also use the live cds for several of the linux flavors inslucing ubuntu
[08:34] <coz> that way no harm no foul
[08:34] <LightShear> hey everyone
[08:34] <cubikdice> hi
[08:34] <alvyn> ok how can I rerun the video card setup
[08:34] <coz> LightShear hey
[08:34] <UltraVi01> hmm.. xae -- not that i've seen
[08:34] <LightShear> hows everyone doing tonight/ this morning, afternoon...
[08:34] <moodog> morning all.
[08:34] <CarlFK> borisattva: dosn't play for me either.  to be sure you have the plugin installed, put "about:pluggins" in Firefox's location
[08:34] <coz> morning moodog
[08:35] <coz> happy 5th day of the new year
[08:35] <LightShear> w00t!
[08:35] <site> coz, live cd? can i run same osses at a time theN/
[08:35] <LightShear> cvs already has valentines day crap up
[08:35] <site> same = 2
[08:35] <LightShear> its so depressing
[08:36] <coz> no the live cd is a cd that boots uses memory no hard drive usage except minor cahce
[08:36] <Korupt> Hobbsee, BRB.... here goes with the updates (praying it fixes this extremely annoying menu glitch)
[08:36] <dotchad> tonyyarusso, thanks
[08:37] <coz> download the live cd for ubuntu and give it a try
[08:37] <ighost> anybody know if the bug where ubuntu install eats your windows partitions is fixed?
[08:37] <polpak> ighost: lol
[08:37] <ighost> not joking :\
[08:38] <hicksy> hi. I have a problem I can't get around. I was happily  going through the ubuntuguide.org and everything was going great until i tried to install some extra fonts. It gave me an error with msttcorefonts.  So now, when I am trying to install other things, it keeps going back to that and keeps getting the same error. I dont really even need those fonts. Anyone know how I can fix this? Thanks!
[08:38] <LightShear> i thought he was joking
[08:38] <ighost> so was it?
[08:38] <odat> xae, whats wrong?
[08:38] <alvyn> i think ubuntu lost my video card setup or something. how can i do hardware redetect or even jsut for video card
[08:38] <alvyn> ighost, thats not a bug
[08:38] <alvyn> because it was intentional
[08:38] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, apt-get -f install
[08:38] <blue-frog> alvyn, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:38] <xae> odat: trying to setup dual boot (windows on hda, ubuntu on hdb). I had SuSE on ... omg one sec
[08:38] <xae> i think i fixed it
[08:39] <alvyn> bugs are like accidental flaws that make some one go oops
[08:39] <ighost> what do you mean, alvyn?
[08:39] <xae> never mind, "Selected disk does not exist"
[08:39] <Steil> Is there any reason why xorg would be using 40% of my memory? (I have 768MB)
[08:39] <alvyn> blue-frog, thanks
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> ighost, Eats windows partitions??  I've installed it on two computers with Windows, and both were fine.
[08:39] <Hobbsee> Korupt: ok, and i think i heard the hack for that menu glitch...
[08:39] <Korupt> Hobbsee, oh?
[08:39] <ighost> tonyyarusso, ya i was told here earlier that it's a rare bug and only happens on certain setups
[08:39] <hicksy> La_PaRCa ... hmm it says: Could not open lock file....
[08:40] <Korupt> Hobbsee, I could use that info..... cause right now it is a little hard to run most of my applications
[08:40] <LightShear> ubuntu and kubuntu (Gnome/KDE) can run on the smae machine, right? I'm used to RedHat where you just pick a session
[08:40] <xae> odat: never mind, its a success
[08:40] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, close synaptic first
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> ighost, If there was a bug submitted, you can search for it and see what the status is.
[08:40] <xae> grr... "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"
[08:40] <Hobbsee> Korupt: did it work?
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, Yes.
[08:40] <hydroksyde> chmod a+x /bin/laden
[08:40] <ighost> tonyyarusso, where?
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, At the login screen, just select either one under "Session".
[08:40] <blue-frog> LightShear, on redhat gnoema nd kde have same look but you can run whichever u choose..
[08:40] <Korupt> Hobbsee, partly..... the xorg worked fine and my init scripts are fixed now.... menu is still b0rked tho
[08:40] <viscount> So is there any point reporting bugs for breezy?
[08:41] <LightShear> awesome thanks tony...ubuntu install first?, then kubuntu
[08:41] <Hobbsee> Korupt: sure, i'll go look for it
[08:41] <odat> xae, cool
[08:41] <LightShear> or doesnt it matter
[08:41] <Korupt> Hobbsee, cool, you rock
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> ighost, Bugzilla, perhaps?
[08:41] <xae> odat, fixed er all up :)
[08:41] <BlackJudas> is kdm the only login manager that will run custom sessions on startup? ... ie will gdm be able to do so?
[08:41] <xae> had to mess with grub a bit
[08:41] <ldmiller> ping
[08:41] <viscount> Will they actually be fixed or will we just have to wait for Dapper and reporting them probably just pointless....
[08:41] <odat> xae, remember linux is like golf   can be frustrating but when you get it   its like hitting a great shot :)
[08:41] <Anssi_> !sound
[08:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:42] <xae> odat: ive got linux to boot, its finishing the install now...
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, I would guess it doesn't matter, but I haven't tried with KDE yet.  The one you install first will determine which login manager gets set to run, but you can change that later too.
[08:42] <xae> odat: getting windows to work will be fun though :)
[08:42] <La_PaRCa> odat, wow, that is one bad bad analogy
[08:42] <hicksy> La_PaRCa ....i just forgot sudo... but after I ran that command you gave me I got the same error
[08:42] <odat> La_PaRCa, you have a better one
[08:42] <Stork> odat, agreed with La_PaRCa :p
[08:42] <odat> lolol
[08:42] <alamba> hi all...anyone out there who can help me out with a vmware player problem? Did post on the forum but no replies for the past 20 min
[08:42] <Korupt> xae: not that hard..... look up the documentation for GRUB
[08:42] <Stork> "linux is like my sister, it can't game for shit"
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> BlackJudas, What sort of custom?  GDM has things like "failsafe terminal" and a couple of other options I don't remember, if that's what you mean.
[08:42] <LightShear> cool..i've only got one machine running with ubuntu server which is what i'm trying to play around with
[08:43] <xae> Korupt: im hoping it was as easy as changing the drive ordering in grub like i did to make it boot linux :)
[08:43] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, paste the error to the pastebin
[08:43] <LightShear> i'm gunna load ubuntu onto my laptop tomorrow
[08:43] <LightShear> well one of them
[08:43] <odat> Stork, thats not true i play madden football on my linux
[08:43] <BlackJudas> tonyyarusso, nah, ie run a program on login
[08:43] <Korupt> xae: its something along the lines of rootnoverify hd(0,0)
[08:43] <Hobbsee> Korupt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109355
[08:43] <Stork> odat, well it's been hell trying to install quake4
[08:43] <hicksy> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:44] <xae> Korupt: i made the linux one... hd(0,0) from hd(1,0)   so im just assuming i switch the win one too :)
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> BlackJudas, I don't know about gdm, but you can set that up in Gnome if you want something to always run.  Not sure about single instances.
[08:44] <odat> Stork, didn't i send you something earlier
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> What kind of lappy, LightShear?
[08:44] <La_PaRCa> w00t, now, thats new, a newcomer with a clue!
[08:45] <Korupt> xae: no, it needs to use rootnoverify... that much I remember
[08:45] <site> where does vmware store its files?
[08:45] <LightShear> HP ze1250..kinda old but has a new HD in it (old one broke)
[08:45] <Stork> odat, yeh, cedega, but i couldn't get it working
[08:45] <LightShear> has a new AMD too...the old one melted..sorta
[08:45] <hicksy> La_PaRCa just posted
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, How can something sorta melt?
[08:45] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, addie?
[08:46] <odat> Stork, did you get it installed?
[08:46] <LightShear> it had burn marks on it
[08:46] <LightShear> lol
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> Oh wow...
[08:46] <site> site where does vmware store its files?
[08:46] <site> site when i download something?
[08:46] <site> site in the guest OS
[08:46] <LightShear> and was overheating
[08:46] <Stork> odat, nope, i need to pay for it though