[00:00] <astrid> Hi. Im using kubuntu 7.10 and currently / and /home are in the same partition. I want that /home point to another partition in my disc (currently, /media/Documents). I moved all files from / to /media/Documents using konqueror and changed fstab, but after reboot  kde couldnt start, so i had to restore fstab. How can i change the location of /home??
[00:01] <Radi01> .
[00:04] <ronnie_> astrid: I'm not sure, but I think perhaps that's something need to be changed when you make the user/group..
[00:05] <ronnie_> so, does anyone have an idea why adept manager behaves differently from command-line usage ?
[00:06] <ronnie_> kind of annoying when you've finally found a usable linux for someone that doesn't spend 22hours of the day nerding by the computer, and the so-called super stability everyone talks 'bout breaks in a thousand pieces..
[00:07] <Tm_T> ronnie_: erm?
[00:07] <ronnie_> *sigh*
[00:07] <Exilant> i doubt adept calls apt-get
[00:08] <Tm_T> adept and apt-get are totally different apps
[00:08] <Tm_T> there's no command-line usage in adept really
[00:08] <ronnie_> they are ? how come ?
[00:08] <Exilant> i think they both call dpk and stuff
[00:08] <Tm_T> ronnie_: there's like 100 different apps you can use for apt
[00:09] <Tm_T> ronnie_: most famous are: adept, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude and wajig
[00:09] <ronnie_> dpk is a system general to debian, and apt is for ubuntu ?
[00:09] <Tm_T> no
[00:09] <Tm_T> apt uses dpkg
[00:10] <ronnie_> oh ok
[00:10] <posingaspopular> hey all I have a philips go gear on mp3 player and everytime i try to mount it I get the following error: mount:wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde1, missing codepage or helper program
[00:10] <ronnie_> wich system would be the easiest, yet most reliable for updating/upgrading ?
[00:10] <Tm_T> posingaspopular: what filesystem it has?
[00:10] <posingaspopular> i should mention it is one of those 'OMG windows is awesome!!one1' types
[00:10] <posingaspopular> Tm_T: fat32
[00:10] <Tm_T> ronnie_: I would say wajig, but for you prolly synaptic
[00:10] <posingaspopular> i can paste the dmesg | tail output
[00:11] <ronnie_> Tm_T: thanks. wajig, is that command-line based ?
[00:12] <Tm_T> yes, actually it is just "wrapper" for apt-get and friends
[00:12] <ronnie_> I'm not new to linux, just been quite a while since I played around with it, and have been impressed over the user-friendly kubuntu.
[00:13] <Tm_T> roger
[00:16] <ronnie_> if I remove adept from my system, and install synaptic, will it behave the same way? I'm thinking of when new packages are available, will it give a warning ?
[00:17] <darkness_s> hi everybody
[00:19] <Exilant> ronnie_: yes, they are pretty similar
[00:19] <darkness_s> hey, if i install gnome in kubuntu, should i leave kdm as default, or should i choose gdm?
[00:19] <Exilant> synaptic is quite good
[00:20] <sam64> how can I make OpenGL work in gutsy?
[00:20] <posingaspopular> darkness_s: depends on if you want gnome or kde as your desktop manager
[00:20] <ronnie_> Exilant: great thanks, I also see adept has several packages, adept, adept-manager, adept-updater etc, is synaptic one complete of all these ?
[00:21] <darkness_s> posingaspopular: i want to keep kde, but i want to test gnome
[00:21] <Exilant> ronnie_: i think so, though it might require some extra packages on a really pure kde system
[00:22] <posingaspopular> im pretty sure you can swap out between dm's if you want at login
[00:23] <ronnie_> Exilant: Ok thank you
[00:23] <darkness_s> posingaspopular: thanks
[00:24] <excitatory> darm
[00:24] <excitatory> ,
[00:24] <excitatory> argh
[00:25] <excitatory> darkness_s: download the ubuntu livecd and give gnome a try..if you want to install it, keeping kdm will work just fine.. but as posingaspopular said, if you end up going gnome full time, it would probably make more sense to switch to gdm
[00:26] <joseph> i just downloaded google earth linux and its sitting on my desktop as a .bin   how do i install it?
[00:27] <joseph> i just downloaded google earth linux and its sitting on my desktop as a .bin   how do i install it?
[00:27] <michael> just installed kubuntu  and finished the updates and all. When adept was done, it told me that there was a new version available and to click next to continue
[00:27] <needles> hi there, im trying to burn an mpeg to dvd media
[00:27] <needles> i dont seem to know a program for linux that does that
[00:27] <ronnie_> joseph: can you rightclick it and see if the DM can choose program to run it with ?
[00:27] <needles> would anyone be able to offer some suggestions?
[00:27] <ronnie_> needles: K3B
[00:28] <needles> k3b doesn't author mpegs
[00:28] <joseph> open with wine or open with other
[00:28] <needles> ronnie_: i mean like, mpeg to dvd format for a dvd player
[00:28] <ardchoille> needles: iirc, devede can do that
[00:28] <ronnie_> needles: hm, I was sure k3b handled that, but I could be wrong hehe
[00:28] <darkness_s> excitatory: thank you
[00:30] <tazz> i am using kubuntu 7.10, how do i findout my dbus version?
[00:31] <michael> just installed kubuntu  7.10 and the static in the sound is terrible
[00:31] <michael> is there a fix?
[00:31] <needles> ardchoille: does devede just make an iso image?
[00:31] <darkness_s> needles: you can use dvdauthor, it is command line only though.
[00:31] <ardchoille> needles: yes
[00:31] <excitatory> joseph: the website has instructions, but generally you make it executable (chmod +x nameofbinfile.bin) then run it: sudo ./nameofbinfile.bin
[00:31] <ardchoille> tazz: apt-cache policy dbus
[00:32] <needles> ardchoille: ah, i see
[00:32] <michael> just installed kubuntu  7.10 and the static in the sound is terrible
[00:32] <michael> is there a fix?
[00:32] <needles> what about a nero-esque program that just transcodes and burns to dvd as it goes along?
[00:32] <excitatory> joseph: getdeb.net might have a deb as well..
[00:33] <excitatory> michael: open up kmix (click the speaker in system tray), then play with the switches tab.. some chipsets act funny with certain swtiches on, especially nforce 5.1 chipsets..
[00:33] <tazz> ardchoille: thanks
[00:34] <michael> cool ok
[00:34] <ardchoille> tazz: yw
[00:34] <darkness_s> needles: you can try this guide:
[00:34] <darkness_s> http://www.greenfly.org/talks/multimedia/dvd.html
[00:35] <needles> !videotrans
[00:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videotrans - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:35] <needles> !info videotrans
[00:35] <ubotu> videotrans: DVD authoring utilities. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.6.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 324 kB
[00:39] <needles> for any programmers who might be on
[00:39] <needles> a new goal: a linux nero copy
[00:39] <needles> so that burning mpegs to dvd movies is easier
[00:39] <needles> there isn't one that i can find that makes it easy
[00:39] <needles> devede makes an iso, but i dont have the hd space to spare
[01:04] <michael> needles: I can get you a hard drive if you need one
[01:05]  * Tm_T dances
[01:07] <Exilant> couldn't k3b do it?
[01:08] <Exilant> dunno, always used the command line, maybe it's just vcd
[01:16] <jhutchins> NO! Nero is one of the reasons I don't use Windows.
[01:16] <biovore> lol..
[01:17] <jhutchins> needles: I don't believe that nero or roxio can create a CD or DVD without creating the iso first, though they may not call it an iso.
[01:18] <jhutchins> What are you trying to do?  Transcode video to a DVD?
[01:19] <biovore> dvd is mpeg2
[01:19] <michael> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[01:19] <michael> I get this error every time I use adept
[01:20] <michael> whats up?
[01:20] <Exilant> you can actually burn a dvd without creating an iso first, growisofs will take a directory as input and an device as output
[01:21] <michael> restarting
[01:28] <michael> I just installed gutsy
[01:29] <michael> I noticed a chip (guess its for the video card), but I was playing with it and it disappeared
[01:30] <michael> in the system tray
[01:30] <michael> bottom right of the screen
[01:31] <michael> how do I get it back and enable my nvidia card?
[01:31] <michael> for 3d support
[01:31] <michael> I just switched from Suse 10.3 cause they cant get my card working
[01:32] <michael> anyone awake in here?
[01:32] <nsh> how do i tell locate(1) that i want it to search for ALL the terms not ANY of them?
[01:32] <nsh> you're awake in here
[01:32] <michael> lol yeah, ONLY one
[01:33] <michael> I wish I could help you man, but i'm somewhat of a newbie
[01:35] <michael> where does one get help for kubuntu?
[01:36] <Tm_T> here and forums and #ubuntu
[01:36] <Tm_T> !patience | michael
[01:36] <ubotu> michael: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:36] <Creationist> michael: I just arrived.  What is your problem?
[01:37] <michael> wow, I didnt mean to sound like I had a bad additude
[01:37] <michael> just asking a  question....honestly
[01:37] <Tm_T> michael: I know, it was just reminder :)
[01:38] <michael> ok  :)  got ya
[01:38] <darkness_s> michael: go to KMenu--System Preferences
[01:38] <darkness_s> then click the advanced tab
[01:38] <|Jason8|MK|> Hello everyone.  I have access to highspeed internet tonight, so I want to download the newest version of Kubuntu.  I saw that there's a DVD and a CD version to download.  Does the DVD version have more packages included?
[01:38] <michael> I just switched from Suse 10.3 cause they cant get my card working
[01:38] <michael> I noticed a chip (guess its for the video card), but I was playing with it and it disappeared
[01:38] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: sorta yes
[01:38] <darkness_s> michael: go to KMenu--System Preferences
[01:38] <darkness_s> and advanced tab
[01:38] <michael> how do I get it back and enable my nvidia card?
[01:39] <michael> ok
[01:39] <michael> system settings maybe?
[01:39] <darkness_s> yep
[01:39] <michael> ok there
[01:40] <Creationist> michael: It's going to be "Restricted Driver Manager"
[01:40] <|Jason8|MK|> How far along has 64 bit support come along?
[01:40] <michael> ahh
[01:40] <michael> cool
[01:40] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: all the way?
[01:41] <|Jason8|MK|> Are most of the programs ported to 64 bit nowadays?  I know about a year ago, there wasn't really anything "easy to use" in 64 bit
[01:41] <michael> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude)
[01:41] <michael> I get this error
[01:41] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: thumb of rule: if you don't need 64bit, don't use it
[01:42] <|Jason8|MK|> Tm_T, okay, that's what I was asking.  Thanks.
[01:42] <darkness_s> michael: is adept open?
[01:42] <michael> hehe
[01:42] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: shouldn't be much headache anymore but...
[01:42] <michael> umm,  no
[01:42] <michael> (not now)
[01:42] <michael> :o)
[01:43] <lvjiabin> Hi,anyone here
[01:43] <darkness_s> hi
[01:43] <Radi01> no
[01:44] <heinkel_111> Tm_T
[01:44] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: yes?
[01:44] <lvjiabin> Ah!so many
[01:44] <heinkel_111> FYI: I've just dropped the 32 bit partition
[01:44] <michael> hey actually I still get the error even if adept is closed
[01:44] <lvjiabin> can you help me about kde4rc
[01:44] <darkness_s> !adeptfix
[01:44] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: um?
[01:44] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:45] <heinkel_111> Tm_T: you asked about 64 bits?
[01:45] <michael> I have done that before and last time my pc refused to boot again
[01:45] <Nyle> is kde4 available in gutsy?
[01:45] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: no I didn't ask
[01:45] <michael> (after an update)
[01:45] <lvjiabin> Myle!Iwant to  say yes
[01:45] <darkness_s> michael: try doing that again
[01:45] <michael> ok
[01:45] <Nyle> !kde4
[01:45] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[01:45] <heinkel_111> Tm_T: oh bummer i misread then....checking... aha..you replied and i disagree
[01:46] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: feel free to disagree :)
[01:46] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: I wonder what part though?
[01:46] <heinkel_111> Tm_T and |Jason8|MK| : I recommend 64 bit for 64 bit machines
[01:46] <lvjiabin> ubotu : can  you  tell me howto
[01:46] <michael> "event not found"
[01:46] <heinkel_111> based on my experience, I am not missing any real useful software anymore
[01:47] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: ok, and gains?
[01:47] <darkness_s> nyle: check www.kubuntu.com
[01:47] <|Jason8|MK|> heinkel_111, I'm downloading the 64-bit version just because I felt like it.
[01:47] <heinkel_111> Tm_T: general performance is better
[01:47] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: any measures? :)
[01:48] <lvjiabin> Nyle:are you english_speak
[01:48] <heinkel_111> Tm_T probably lots but I have noticed procedures like ripping CDs are much faster on the 64 bit.
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm. You mean the actual 'encoding' of wav to mp3/ogg
[01:48] <Nyle> lvjiabin: yes
[01:48] <michael> 32 bit version works a heck of alot better (as in setting up things to work)
[01:49] <heinkel_111> but gtg, cooking jambalaya on screen 3
[01:49] <michael> "event not found"
[01:49] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: I mean, without hard test numbers I can't sau a thing ;)
[01:49] <Radi01> I agree 32 bit is more stable.
[01:49] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: anyway, !worksforme ;)
[01:49] <lvjiabin> Nyle:aha ,can you help me
[01:49] <heinkel_111> true, Tm_T: how about 16-bit ?  ;-=
[01:49] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: I still use it
[01:49] <Radi01> win 95?
[01:49] <darkness_s> michael: can you use the restricted manager now?
[01:50] <michael> checking
[01:50] <Tm_T> Radi01: trying to insult?
[01:50] <Tm_T> Heinkel|afk: nooooooooo
[01:50] <Radi01> loo no
[01:50] <lvjiabin> En ,howto install kde4?
[01:50] <Radi01> Actually win95/c,is still the most stable win pgm.
[01:50] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: see topic
[01:51] <tricky> How come Xine conntrol my volume ??
[01:51] <Tm_T> tricky: because... it's configured so?
[01:51] <lvjiabin> Tm_T:my poor  English
[01:51] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[01:51] <michael> darkness_s: no
[01:52] <michael> should I restart?
[01:52] <tricky> Tm_T: I have to open xine to raise the volume of an other apps...ex. youtube video ...if i shut Xine , volume get back low
[01:52] <lvjiabin> Tm-T:I  cant  grap what is discribe below!
[01:52] <darkness_s> michael: easy way: rebbot, long way: try       ps -A |grep adept       on a terminal
[01:52] <SbCl3> I'm having a problem with ManDVD; when I load the binary, I get the message "error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open". Could this be because this is a 64bit machine?
[01:53] <lvjiabin> These KDE 4 packages install to /usr/lib/kde4 so run:
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export KDEDIRS=/usr/lib/kde4
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
[01:53] <michael> k
[01:53] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: don't flood
[01:53] <michael> trying long way first
[01:53] <lvjiabin> Yes,but what they mean？
[01:53] <michael> result:     00:00:10 adept_notifier
[01:54] <michael> that good?
[01:54] <michael> lol
[01:54] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: I recommend you not to try KDE4 yet if you don't know
[01:54] <darkness_s> michael: that shows that adept is not running
[01:54] <michael> ahh ok, guess I'll try again
[01:55] <darkness_s> michael: maybe apt-get is your problem
[01:55] <tricky> Tm_T: Thanks!!
[01:55] <michael> still no go
[01:56] <michael> maybe it is
[01:56] <michael> how do I kill it?
[01:56] <darkness_s> michael: try KSysGuard and search for apt-get or aptitude
[01:56] <lvjiabin> Tm_T:I konw!
[01:56] <lvjiabin> Thanks!
[01:57] <michael> sorry, but where is the ksysguard at?
[01:58] <Tm_T> michael: alt+F2 and write it and hit enter
[01:58] <darkness_s> michael: or try KMenu--System--KSysGuard
[01:59] <michael> alt f2 worked
[01:59] <Tm_T> usually quicker
[01:59] <michael> I get the same error, that its being used
[01:59] <Dr_willis> alt-space ksys ? :)
[02:00] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: hrrrr
[02:00] <darkness_s> Dr_willis: i didn't know about that one
[02:00] <Dr_willis> katapult - is handy
[02:01] <Tm_T> ...for some people yes :p
[02:01] <michael> wait maybe it was a previous error I failed to close out, cause I tried it again and I didnt get the same response
[02:01] <Dr_willis> Just use the windows answer! - REBOOT! :)
[02:02] <francesco> ho bisogno di aiuto
[02:02] <francesco> help for italian man
[02:02] <angel_> !it | francesco
[02:02] <ubotu> francesco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:03] <michael> when I type in adept or aptitude in the command prompt (alt f2) nothing happens
[02:04] <michael> do I rebbot pc or restart x?
[02:04] <darkness_s> michael: try    ps -A | grep apt
[02:04] <michael> ok
[02:04] <michael> in alt f2?
[02:05] <michael> or konsole?
[02:05] <michael> man, I am so dumb at this
[02:05] <darkness_s> konsole
[02:05] <michael> feel like a retard
[02:05] <michael> lol
[02:06] <michael> didnt get a response out of either one (alt f2 or konsole)
[02:07] <michael> still didnt work
[02:07] <michael> wont let me enable driver
[02:07] <darkness_s> michael: then i guess you should just reboot
[02:07] <michael> ok
[02:09] <darkness_s> how can i clean up the disk cache?
[02:10] <Tm_T> disk cache in where?
[02:10] <darkness_s> in ram
[02:11] <Dr_willis> and why do you think its dirty? :)
[02:11] <vzduch> lol
[02:11] <darkness_s> Dr_willis: lol
[02:12] <darkness_s> Dr_willis: cause i opened MS paint
[02:12] <darkness_s> with wine
[02:12] <tricky> lol
[02:12] <Tm_T> why you need to clean it?
[02:12] <vzduch> why you opened M$ Paint in the 1st place?
[02:12] <darkness_s> i don't need to, i was just wondering
[02:12] <Tm_T> darkness_s: I'd say no
[02:13] <Tm_T> (yes but non-trivial)
[02:13] <ardchoille> darkness_s: Linux is quite better at managing memory than "that other OS"
[02:13] <Tm_T> ardchoille: what's wrong with BeOS ?
[02:13] <ardchoille> lol!
[02:13] <vzduch> *ouch*
[02:14] <darkness_s> ardchoille: i know, i just wanted to know how to do that
[02:14] <ardchoille> darkness_s: Not really necessary.. akin to disk defrag ;)
[02:14] <iMac> where can download dock for ubuntu ??
[02:15] <darkness_s> ardchoille: thank you
[02:15] <ardchoille> iMac: There's an app in the repos called kooldock
[02:17] <BanisterKelly> !vmware
[02:17] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:17] <BanisterKelly> Where do I get the multiverse repository?
[02:17] <vzduch> !multiverse
[02:17] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:18] <BanisterKelly> Thank you
[02:18] <michael> darkness_s: still get the error after reboot
[02:18] <ardchoille> iMac: What exactly do you need in a dock? Something like this? http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4ku6.jpg
[02:18] <BanisterKelly> I have a few iMac computers here.
[02:18] <darkness_s> michael: that is weird
[02:19] <michael> yeah
[02:19] <darkness_s> michael: try        ps -A    on konsole
[02:19] <michael> The title of the error is " Database Locked- Adept Batch"
[02:19] <Dr_willis> I got an imac.. it makes a good doorstop. :)
[02:20] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: erm?
[02:20] <ardchoille> lol
[02:20] <BanisterKelly> I am still confused.  How do I get vmware player?
[02:20] <michael> wow
[02:21] <michael> lots of stuff
[02:21] <darkness_s> michael: yes, look for anything that says adept or apt or aptitude
[02:21] <michael> darkness_s: ok
[02:22] <timbo_> how do i fix the adept manager
[02:22] <timbo_> it keeps crashing and i forgot the code
[02:22] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[02:22] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:22] <darkness_s> ardchoille: he said he tried that
[02:23] <michael> darkness_s:  5571 ?        00:00:04 adept_notifier
[02:23] <darkness_s> michael: is that the only one?
[02:23] <michael> yes
[02:24] <darkness_s> michael: did you really try the adept fix?
[02:24] <darkness_s> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:24] <darkness_s> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:25] <michael> yes, I can do it again
[02:25] <michael> !adeptfix   ?
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptfix   ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <michael> that right?
[02:26] <timbo_> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) is what it is saying
[02:26] <ardchoille> timbo_: Can you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:26] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <darkness_s> michael: yes,  type   sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock    on a konsole
[02:26] <darkness_s> michael: and then      sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:28] <michael> keep current version?
[02:28] <timbo_> how do i access it
[02:28] <timbo_> it wont let me in
[02:29] <darkness_s> michael: what?
[02:29] <ardchoille> timbo_: kate /etc/apt/sources.list  then copy and paste the contents to pastebin
[02:30] <michael> !pastebin
[02:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:31] <michael> darkness_s:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45746/
[02:31] <timbo_> ok i deleted line 56 and got back in
[02:32] <timbo_> i was trying to install kde4 and pasted what it told me and after that it crashed and wouldnt let me back in
[02:32] <ardchoille> timbo_: I was going to have a look and see if I could help repair without deleting anything
[02:33] <timbo_> it was the last source that i added
[02:33] <BanisterKelly> Is it possible to install via RPM in Kubuntu?
[02:33] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: No, please do not use rpm's, it's dangerous.
[02:33] <vzduch> BanisterKelly: w/ a bit of twisting, yes.. but don't do it unless there's no other option
[02:33] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: You need to look in the repos or find a .deb that was made for ubuntu. Which app are you trying to get?
[02:33] <darkness_s> michael: answer Y
[02:33] <timbo_> ardchoille thank you though
[02:34] <ardchoille> timbo_: yw
[02:34] <BanisterKelly> !vmware
[02:34] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:34] <BanisterKelly> That is what I am trying to get.
[02:35] <vzduch> which one?
[02:35] <BanisterKelly> vmware player
[02:35] <michael> ok done
[02:35] <darkness_s> michael: it worked?
[02:35] <vzduch> to my knowledge, it's in the partners repo (or what was its name?)
[02:36] <CPrgmSwR2> HOw do I run the restricted driver wizard
[02:36] <michael> oh, trying
[02:36] <CPrgmSwR2> because I am not getting the icon for it
[02:37] <darkness_s> CPrgmSwR2: KMenu--System Settings
[02:37] <michael> sweet, its never gone this far before
[02:37] <darkness_s> CPrgmSwR2: then go to the Advanced tab
[02:37] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: enable the partner repo and then do: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search vmware
[02:37] <CPrgmSwR2> got it thnx
[02:38] <CPrgmSwR2> already installing
[02:38] <michael> darkness_s:  got it
[02:38] <michael> restart x?   darkness_s
[02:38] <darkness_s> michael: did you install your card already?
[02:39] <darkness_s> michael: if so, yes but it may not work... it would be better to reboot
[02:39] <michael> oh ok
[02:40] <michael> darkness_s: the driver is installed if that is what you mean
[02:40] <darkness_s> michael: yes
[02:41] <michael> cool, brb fingers crossed
[02:42] <BanisterKelly> No vmware found that I can see.
[02:43] <ardchoille> !info vmware-server gutsy
[02:43] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in gutsy
[02:43] <ardchoille> !info vmware-server feisty
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> mdetect - mouse device autodetection tool
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> xserver-xorg-video-vmware - X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> libview-dev - VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widgets
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> libview2 - VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widgets
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> libview2-dbg - VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widget
[02:43] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in feisty
[02:44] <BanisterKelly> !info vmware player
[02:44] <ardchoille> Hmm.. that !vmware factoid must be old
[02:44] <ubotu> Package vmware does not exist in gutsy
[02:44] <Dr_willis> I alwyas install the vmware-server :)
[02:45] <Dr_willis> vmware used tobe in the repos for the last release.. not sure where its at now
[02:45] <Dr_willis> !find  vmware
[02:45] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[02:45] <BanisterKelly> I have the rpm for vmware player 2.02
[02:45] <Dr_willis> You can download vmware server for free. , never used vmware player. :)
[02:45] <Dr_willis> there sproberly some repo that has it.
[02:46] <michael> darkness_s:  sweet, tat did it
[02:46] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Do yourself a favour and delete that rpm
[02:46] <michael> thank you
[02:46] <darkness_s> michael: great! you are welcome
[02:46] <BanisterKelly> Deleting then.
[02:47] <michael> I can offer you PC parts (new) for yard sale prices if you ever are in need
[02:47] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: With the popularity of Ubuntu, I'll bet there is a .deb package somewhere
[02:47] <BanisterKelly> Deleted.
[02:47] <michael> now to get my sound working
[02:47] <michael> lol
[02:47] <darkness_s> michael: where are you right now?
[02:47] <michael> usa
[02:48] <michael> VA
[02:48] <BanisterKelly> RI
[02:48] <darkness_s> michael: I'm in mexico (i'm not mexican though)
[02:48] <tricky>                                                                                y
[02:49] <michael> are you there legally?
[02:49] <michael> lol
[02:49] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[02:49] <tricky> yes you are mexican
[02:49] <michael> I hope not
[02:49] <michael> hehe
[02:49] <ardchoille> !ot
[02:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:49] <darkness_s> lol
[02:49] <darkness_s> sorry ubotu
[02:50] <michael> are pc parts cheap there ?
[02:50] <darkness_s> and ardchoille
[02:50] <keaton> What's the command to start the kde media manager (that thing that automounts cd's and such)
[02:51] <michael> oops, sorry, I'm a little slow, but Iget the point now
[02:51] <darkness_s> michael: no, but we are getting kicked if we don't stop the offtopic
[02:51] <michael> gotya darkness_s
[02:51] <baudthief> I'm trying to get multiple wallpapers going (one for each desktop) - but for some reason, even just trying to change my current wallpaper for a single desktop has no effect! Any ideas? Running Gutsy with compiz-fusion
[02:52] <ardchoille> heh
[02:53] <michael> how about this?  I need my sound working (need a hard drive?) I have an audigy and it detects it, but I get static or nothingg at all
[02:53] <ardchoille> michael: This isn't the place for psoting ads. Please stop it.
[02:53] <darkness_s> lol
[02:53] <michael> sorry
[02:53] <darkness_s> ardchoille: he was just kidding
[02:54] <michael> but the question was real
[02:54] <ardchoille> Even kidding can get him kicked
[02:54] <michael> my sound sux
[02:55] <michael> video is great now though
[02:55] <keaton> Anyone know the command to start the kde media manager (that thing that automounts cd's and such)
[02:55] <michael> I am dealing with a fresh install, so I need my dvd's, mp3's... yata yata yata working
[02:58] <scrubb2000> I have an M-Audio Revolution 7.1.  Every time I start linux, the sound only comes out of the right speaker.  If I open Kmix and move the balance slider, the left channel comes in and everything works fine from there.
[02:58] <scrubb2000> Can someone tell me how to make it "stick" so I don't have to do this every time I boot?
[02:59] <dsmith> shouldn't have to boot
[02:59] <dsmith> but once a month
[03:00] <biovore> you can use alsactl to save your mixer settings
[03:00] <scrubb2000> That's not answering my question though. ;)
[03:00] <Exilant> scrubb2000: well, the dirty way is to write a script that runs at bootup, using amixer or alsamixer (or dcop+kmix)
[03:00] <dsmith> heh
[03:00] <dsmith> I know...
[03:01] <biovore> technicaly if you restart alsa it should save the current mixer settings and then restore that saved settings
[03:01] <scrubb2000> I'm not sure it's running ALSA.  The hardware setting is "autodetect"
[03:01] <scrubb2000> Should I just force ALSA?
[03:01] <biovore> its linux.. your running alsa
[03:01] <baudthief> I have a similar problem with nvidia-settings. Gamma doesn't "stick", so I had to add 'nvidia-settings -l' to a startup script
[03:02] <biovore> !alsa
[03:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:02] <biovore> Advance Linux Sound Arch
[03:02] <biovore> replaces OSS
[03:02] <scrubb2000> What is enlightened sound daemon?
[03:03] <baudthief> haha, that sounds like a porno
[03:03] <biovore> some crap that runs to handle enlightened sounds sources..
[03:03] <biovore> just like artsd and esd
[03:03] <Tm_T> nownow
[03:03] <biovore> :-P
[03:03] <Tm_T> biovore: Enlightened Sound Daemon, ESD
[03:03] <Tm_T> !language
[03:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:04] <baudthief> rephrase: haha, that sounds like a special DVD
[03:06] <CPrgmSwR2> Tm_T: okay I got kdenetwork4 working in kubuntu
[03:06] <Tm_T> good
[03:06]  * CPrgmSwR2 is never going to touch gentoo again
[03:06] <Exilant> wise choice
[03:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Exilant:  my program is I just can't wait for kde4 to be released
[03:08] <darkness_s> your program?
[03:08] <Tm_T> some of us are developers I assume
[03:08] <CPrgmSwR2> i ment problem
[03:09] <CPrgmSwR2> my problem is that I am too impatient for kde4
[03:09] <Tm_T> I have no problems
[03:10] <CPrgmSwR2> Tm_T: huh?
[03:11] <CPrgmSwR2> bbl
[03:15] <n00b> need help getting my wireless back! I can no longer connect wirelessly, and can't get knetworkmanager to run!
[03:21] <n00b> can anyone help me connect to my wifi network?
[03:21] <darkness_s> n00b: try running knetworkmanager from a console an see what you ge
[03:22] <darkness_s> get
[03:22] <n00b> darkness_s: thats the weird part: when i try to run it, it says thats its not installed, and then when I try to install it, it says i already have the latest version
[03:23] <n00b> darkness_s: ive gone back and forth uninstalling and reinstalling.... no dice =/
[03:24] <n00b> are there any other commands i can run to connect, as knetwork manager is not working?
[03:25] <darkness_s> n00b: are you in gutsy?
[03:25] <n00b> yes
[03:26] <michael> gutsy sound sux
[03:26] <bryan> hi room
[03:26] <darkness_s> hi
[03:26] <n00b> michael: what's different than previous releases?
[03:26] <bryan> anyone know how to get that xorg automated configure thing?
[03:27] <darkness_s> n00b: maybe you could donwload gnome network manager
[03:27] <michael> I just switched from Suse, cause they dont support my video any more and now I cant get sound (without static)  lol
[03:27] <PaReNTaL_aDiViSo> I think it too michael
[03:27] <darkness_s> !xorg
[03:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:27] <n00b> bryan: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  but only if its borked
[03:28] <PaReNTaL_aDiViSo> but this is new... i've used the other kubuntu, the last one, and he sound was really good
[03:28] <PaReNTaL_aDiViSo> the sound
[03:28] <michael> n00b:  Sound in dapper and below worked flawlessly, but Edgy and newer... all I get is static
[03:28] <n00b> michael: i had a lot of static too- you have to make sure all other sound components are turned down or off.  Turns out, my mic was up all the way, making sound sh!tty
[03:29] <bryan> no, im talking about how do i reconfigure xorg all over w/out doing it by hand
[03:29] <n00b> darkness_s: what's the exact package name?
[03:30] <darkness_s> n00b: i don't remember exactly
[03:30] <n00b> bryan: that command essentially runs a "wizard" that will, for the most part, autodetect your settings.  You can change them though
[03:30] <michael> n00b: my mic is muted and I still get the static noise
[03:30] <n00b> michael: and you turned down all other sound in KMixer, except for the one you need?
[03:30] <darkness_s> help, anyone? gnome network manager's package name?
[03:31] <michael> n00b:   I'll try that now
[03:33] <michael> n00b: oh, hey would having a 5.1 system connected make a difference you think?
[03:33] <n00b> michael: i would think so... i've have two laptops with crappy speakers, nothing like that... =/
[03:34] <michael> not much $$ if you shop arround
[03:35] <michael> where would I go to switch from 2 speaker to 6?
[03:36] <michael> where would I go to switch from 2 speaker to 6?  n00b
[03:38] <n00b> michael: not too sure, but this *may* help you ---------> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085273.0
[03:38] <michael> great thanks
[03:40] <michael> n00b: my prob is that I already have the audigy card
[03:41] <BanisterKelly> !compiz
[03:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:41] <michael> n00b:  thanks dude, you rock anyway!      :)
[03:43] <n00b> michael: thanks- sorry i couldnt help
[03:44] <michael> no prob bro
[03:46] <megatog615_> Why does Adept not respect my KDE theme?
[03:48] <ardchoille> megatog615_: Because adept is being run as root, not as user, you'll have to change root's theme
[03:48] <megatog615_> What? Then why does update-manager respect my GTK theme?
[03:49] <ardchoille> Is update-manager a GTK app?
[03:52] <n00b> ok, i got knetworkmanager up and running again, but now it just reads "manual network configuration", and doesn't show "wireless networks" like it used to.  what gives?
[03:53] <megatog615_> ardchoille: Yes. It's the update manager for GNOME, on Ubuntu
[03:54] <megatog615_> Adept is used as the updater for Kubuntu
[03:54] <ardchoille> megatog615_: No idea why GTK apps don't seperate root and user settings :)
[03:55] <megatog615_> Can a program run as root with sudo detect who's running it in sudo?
[03:55] <megatog615_> If so, just detect the user and use that user's kde theme
[03:56] <ardchoille> Well, IMHO, an app running as root should use root's settings and an app running as user should use user settings.
[03:56] <ardchoille> That's the proper way to sepperate the environment
[03:57] <ardchoille> To change root's settings: kdesudo kcontrol
[04:01] <BanisterKelly> !compiz
[04:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:05] <excitatory_> so does anyone know if taskbar-compiz will compile in gutsy? or better yet know of a repo or deb?
[04:06] <ardchoille> excitatory_: Might be better to ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:06] <excitatory_> it's really quite frustrating that the taskbar does not recognize compiz.. sort of defeats the point of the cube, or even the kubuntu default of two desktop planes
[04:07] <excitatory_> ardchoille: i can try, but it's really a kubuntu question.
[04:08] <ardchoille> excitatory_: Well all compiz questions are being referred to that channel
[04:09] <ardchoille> I was just trying to point you to the best possible way to get your answer
[04:13] <ryan-c> is there a package to automaticly apply hdparm settings to drives on boot?
[04:13] <NickPresta> excitatory_, I used a nice deb for Debian Etch.  I can link you to it if you like
[04:13] <ryan-c> I'd like to disable write caching on my drives.
[04:15] <excitatory_> NickPresta: please :D
[04:17] <enzo_> Nothing in my desktop will run. I keep getting this error message:  KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP
[04:17] <enzo_> What is that?
[04:17] <NickPresta> excitatory_, http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/umtaworld/pool/unstable/main/fusion-icon-qt4_0.1+git20071010~umtdebian_all.deb YMMV
[04:17] <BanisterKelly> Is there a way to have the Windows key activate the taskbar?
[04:17] <Silouck> can anyone tell me the url to see the kubuntu patches?
[04:17] <excitatory_> NickPresta: ah nice, thank you..
[04:17] <maduser> yeah
[04:18] <maduser> you got to fiest get the windows start icon
[04:18] <maduser> or make your own
[04:18] <NickPresta> maduser, sorry, what?
[04:19] <maduser> about the icon question
[04:19] <Silouck> can anyone tell me the url to see the kubuntu patches?
[04:20] <maduser> etc/opt/kde3/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/kmenu.png
[04:20] <maduser> location of the menu icon
[04:20] <Ariel> Hi Everyone.
[04:21] <enzo_> Hello Ariel
[04:21] <Ariel> BBL.
[04:22] <BanisterKelly> !compiz
[04:22] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:23] <i_want_kde4> hello i made a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it downloaded a lot but theres an error that says: Impossible to get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-calc_2.3.0-1ubuntu5.1_i386.deb connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]maybe u should try apt-get update --fix-missing? sorry the translation i have it in spanish. im using kubuntu feisty with kde 3.5.7
[04:24] <Silouck> where can i see the kubuntu sources=?
[04:24] <ardchoille> Silouck: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <leboff> i am having the same problem as this person here: http://pastebin.ca/796229 nearly word for word, does anyone know if this is a known problem or if there is a solution?
[04:27] <bazhang_> how to change nicks?
[04:27] <leboff> .   /nick newnick
[04:27] <ardchoille> bazhang_: Type: /newnickhere
[04:27] <ardchoille> bazhang_: Type: /nick newnickhere
[04:27] <Silouck> ardchoille: i would like to for example see the kdebase patches, where can i see it?
[04:27] <bazhang_> err remove the _ from after my name
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[04:28] <ardchoille> Silouck: I've no idea
[04:28] <bazhang_> ok thanks ardchoille :}
[04:28] <leboff> type: /nick bazhang
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck you will need to download kdebase-src
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> or sudo apt-get install kdebase-src
[04:28] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: im not running kubuntu ATM
[04:29] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: download from wherE?
[04:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: this is #kubuntu
[04:29] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: sp?
[04:29] <Silouck> so??
[04:29] <morphine> Hey, does anyone know how I can have all the mail in a certain folder marked as read automatically using kontact?
[04:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: hold on
[04:30] <maduser> how do you get stegiri to search you entire computer?
[04:30] <CPrgmSwR2> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/
[04:30] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/ there you go kde source
[04:30] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: thts kde man!!!
[04:30] <Silouck> im talking about the kubuntu kde patches!!!
[04:31] <draik> I just redid my HDD. I can only run apps as "kdesu <app>"
[04:31] <Silouck> kdevase specificallyu
[04:31] <Silouck> kdebase*
[04:31] <CPrgmSwR2> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/
[04:31] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: appears you need glasses to read what others type
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> you asked for kdebase
[04:32] <i_want_kde4> noone knows what can i do?
[04:32] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2:  im talking about the kubuntu kdebase patches!!!  do you even know what a patch is?!
[04:32] <i_want_kde4> :(
[04:32] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: i asked for patches
[04:32] <draik> This is my error message for Thunderbird...   Service '/home/draik/.local/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop' is malformatted.
[04:32] <draik> Do I have to reinstall the OS?
[04:33] <ardchoille> draik: Did you use kmenuedit to make that menu entry?
[04:33] <ardchoille> draik: No, no need to reinstall, just fix the menu entry
[04:33] <draik> ardchoille: I don't believe I touched it.
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: yes I know what a patch is, the kdebase patches should be here http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/
[04:33] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: seams your blind
[04:34] <draik> ardchoille: Configuration file "/home/draik/.kde/share/config/kmenueditrc" not writable.
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> really?
[04:34] <ardchoille> draik: Open that file in kate and paste it to pastebin. I'll try and help you fix it
[04:34] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[04:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:34] <draik> ardchoille: Which file?
[04:34] <ardchoille> draik: /home/draik/.local/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: There is an apt-src command
[04:35] <JimmyTheNose> hey, I'm having a possibly stupid question about the live cd/dvd...
[04:35] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: fuck, i said im not using kubuntu asshoe
[04:35] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: take a good look -> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <ardchoille> Silouck: Watch your language in this channel please
[04:36] <JimmyTheNose> Is there any way to enable a restricted driver pre boot? because if i try to enable a restricted driver using the restricted driver manager it tells me a reboot is necessary, which kind of sucks with a live cd ;)
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: please use #ubuntu then
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> this chatroom is for #kubuntu
[04:37] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: seams you have a lot to learn, there you have it all baby, please go read docs and then you can start helping other
[04:37] <ardchoille> !coc | Silouck
[04:37] <ubotu> Silouck: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:38] <draik> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45750/
[04:38] <Silouck> ardchoille: give me a break
[04:38] <Pollywog> what happened to tzconfig in Gutsy?
[04:38] <Pollywog> I don't think tzselect is an improvement
[04:39] <i_want_kde4> what does "waiting for headers" men?
[04:39] <draik> ardchoille: The interesting thing is that I can see the icons with "root" privileges, but not with my username.
[04:39] <Pollywog> i_want_kde4: what are you trying to install?
[04:39] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: take a very good look, but now try using glasses -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/kde/kdebase
[04:40] <i_want_kde4> im trying to upgrate to gutsy form feisty Pollywog
[04:40] <i_want_kde4> from*
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck sudo apt-get source kdebase
[04:40] <i_want_kde4> upgrade* its 01:40 here cant type well :)
[04:40] <ardchoille> draik: You may have some files in your $HOME owned by root. Open a terminal and do: find /home/draik -user root
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: sudo apt-get source kdebase
[04:40] <Cold_Inz> !evolution
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <ardchoille> draik: There shouldn't be any files in your $HOME owned by root.
[04:40] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: your really blind baby, i siad i wasnt in kubuntu ATM!!!
[04:40] <Pollywog> i_want_kde4: so apt is giving you the headers message?
[04:41] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: thats not my problem
[04:41] <draik> ardchoille: WHOA! I think it listed everything
[04:41] <ardchoille> !ops | Silouck needs to be reminded about the coc
[04:41] <ubotu> Silouck needs to be reminded about the coc: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[04:41] <i_want_kde4> nope it gives me an error:  Impossible to get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-calc_2.3.0-1ubuntu5.1_i386.deb connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]maybe u should try apt-get update --fix-missing?  That was... interesting?
[04:43] <lingch3n> halo ever1
[04:43] <draik> ardchoille: chmod 700 /home/draik      ?
[04:43] <Cold_Inz> I've got a weird question going on. anyone here knows how to configure the SuSe menu style ? :P
[04:43] <i_want_kde4> Pollywog: firts apt-get dist-upgrade when the error happened i typed apt-get update --fix-missing
[04:43] <ardchoille> draik: sudo chown -R draik:draik /home/draik/.kde
[04:43] <CPrgmSwR2> draik: actually it was since I solved his problem
[04:43] <i_want_kde4> but nothing then i retyped dist-upgrade and it gives me the same error
[04:43] <lingch3n> @.@
[04:43] <ardchoille> draik: chmod is the wrong command for this
[04:44] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: probably an answer in #suse
[04:44] <Pollywog> i_want_kde4: I think you should get a valid sources.list from the generator
[04:44] <i_want_kde4> there it goes i typed dist-upgrade --fix-missing
[04:44] <i_want_kde4> xD
[04:44] <Pollywog> !sources.list
[04:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:44] <draik> ardchoille: Ah! Thanks for correcting my oversight.
[04:45] <Pollywog> I don't have the URL for the sources.list generator
[04:45] <i_want_kde4> brb
[04:45] <draik> CPrgmSwR2: I had the similar issue today. I do chat at work and I provide an answer and most of my replies compose of "scroll up".
[04:46] <ardchoille> draik: yw
[04:46] <draik> ardchoille: You..... Are..... GOD!
[04:46] <ardchoille> draik: hehe
[04:46] <raylu> there is only one god, and he is i :D
[04:47] <ardchoille> draik: Did that fix the kmenuedit problem too?
[04:47] <draik> ardchoille: Yes
[04:47] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yeah, gonna try that instead, thanks
[04:48] <ardchoille> Awesome
[04:48] <draik> ardchoille: Yes you are!
[04:48] <bazhang> draik: scroll up haha
[04:48] <ardchoille> lol
[04:49] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: unless you are referring to kickoff (sp) on Kubuntu :}
[04:49] <ardchoille> draik: doing "chmod -R 700" would have removed the execute bit from all folders, and that would have caused you to be unable to enter into them
[04:50] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: uhm sorry, SP ?
[04:50] <ardchoille> he meant "spelling"
[04:50] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: not sure of my spelling (sp) sorry
[04:51] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: your kickoff menu giving you problems?
[04:51] <CPrgmSwR2> draik: as kubuntu becomes more mainstream... your going to get more and more of those people
[04:52] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: afaik, there is no SuSe menu style until kde4
[04:52] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yes sorry for the confusion, I mean KickOff menustyle for kubuntu. no it's working as it should, but I would like to know if it's possible to change the looks of it, and especially the kickoff button
[04:52]  * Dr_willis starts using 'obscourelinux-that-no-one-uses'
[04:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:52] <Cold_Inz> ardchoille: I'm using it this very moment
[04:53] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: with kde 3.5.8?
[04:53] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: I tried that, never could get it to look right.. deleted it
[04:53] <Cold_Inz> ardchoille: earlier version too, I just upgraded .. "aptitude search kickoff"
[04:53] <draik> ardchoille: Would you know why I can't hear the Konversation alerts
[04:54] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: kickoff isn't in the repos
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> o,O
[04:55] <ardchoille> draik: Why?
[04:55] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: from the google it seems not to be very customizable--if at all--a nice alternative that provides tons of customization is kbfx
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> ardchoille: uh.
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> $ aptitude search kickoff
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> i   kicker-kickoff                                                  - Kickoff
[04:56] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: Then you either installed it from a .deb or you're using unofficial repos
[04:56] <ardchoille> !info kickoff
[04:56] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yeah I've tried kbfx earlier, wasn't quite satisfied with it, but changes has been made since then, so perhaps I should take a look at it again
[04:56] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[04:56] <darkness_s> !info kicker-kickoff
[04:56] <ubotu> Package kicker-kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[04:56] <Cold_Inz> I just upgraded from feisty to gutsy
[04:56] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: kde-look has some very nice themes for it atm
[04:57] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yeah I'll check that out, thanks =)
[04:57] <navetz> how do i resize my partition
[04:57] <ardchoille> !partition
[04:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:57] <draik> ardchoille: I have it to say "Yo" when my name is mentioned. It doesn't say a think even though I have it enabled and selected. I even tried to test it out by clicking on the play button and nothing.
[04:57] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: no worries :} sorry for the earlier confusion on my part
[04:57] <navetz> ardchoille: I downloaded gparted but it wont let me resize
[04:57] <ardchoille> draik: I don't know anything about sound, sorry. I don't even know if my sound works.
[04:58] <ardchoille> navetz: Did you run it as root?
[04:58] <draik> ardchoille: I can listen to music with Amarok, but not through Konversation.
[04:58] <draik> How strange
[04:58] <navetz> ardchoille: no, would it be sudo gparted & ?
[04:58] <CPrgmSwR2> wow I love kubuntu-gutsy
[04:58] <ardchoille> navetz: No, gui apps need kdesudo, so: kdesudo gparted
[04:58] <Dr_willis> it may be best to use gparted from a live cd also
[04:59] <navetz> thanks
[04:59] <ardchoille> navetz: Dr_willis has a good point
[04:59] <navetz> Dr_willis: i tried to use a live cd but I was unable to resize my partition
[05:00] <navetz> Dr_willis: i am trying to dual boot with fedora, and i tried to split my partition in half.
[05:00] <navetz> in fedora install you dont get the option to resize
[05:00] <ardchoille> Now that's my idea of a sensible dual-boot  Linux/Linux  :)
[05:01] <navetz> i like fedora better then kubuntu because it works better on my machine
[05:01] <navetz> the problem is that when i upgrade fedora, my wireless card stops working
[05:01] <Dr_willis> i laptop dual-boots.. GeeXbox (linux) and Ubuntu :)
[05:02] <navetz> i am getting this error opening gparted : Unable to open /dev/scd0 - unrecognised disk label.
[05:02] <draik> Is there a way for me to have my external 500GB HDD display on my desktop? Device Link won't work. (It's /dev/sdb1 and /media/disk)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> You can always make a link from /media/disk to the desktop
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I just add things like that to the konqueror bookmarks also. :)
[05:07] <draik> ardchoille: Any download attempt crashes Firefox. Any idea?
[05:08] <draik> Thank you Dr_willis
[05:09] <ardchoille> draik: Are there any files in ~/.mozilla owned by root?
[05:09] <ardchoille> draik: find .mozilla -user root
[05:11] <draik> ardchoille: Nope
[05:12] <navetz> how do I install a kde theme that I downloaded?
[05:12] <ardchoille> draik: Not sure, I don't use firefox
[05:12] <ardchoille> !theme
[05:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:12] <ardchoille> !changethemes | navetz
[05:12] <ubotu> navetz: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[05:12] <draik> ardchoille: Ok. Thanks for your help
[05:12] <Dr_willis> navetz,  themes under kde are a little bit more complex then  they first appear.
[05:13]  * _beata_ asks if anyone happens to know of/have an all-in-wonder working with feisty or gutsy. He's gotten it *partly* working, but hasn't yet found an  howto for gatos that's recent enough to actuall work.
[05:13] <navetz> Dr_willis: alright, well for now I just want to change the icons
[05:13] <Dr_willis> could load up the icon theme tool and drag the them to it.
[05:14] <draik> Dr_willis: The issue is that when I login (from hard or soft boot), the drive isn't there. I have to unplug it and plug it back in for it to be recognized.
[05:14] <_beata_> Heh. The thing I'd really like is to get gtk/gnome apps to correctly draw their menu bar.
[05:15] <navetz> Dr_willis: Where is the icon theme tool, I see install new theme in the icons section of apperance, but I dont know how to select the theme because there are just a bunch of icons the in folder of themes
[05:15] <Dr_willis> draik,  you could just make a fstab entry for it. so it dosent need to 'automount'
[05:15] <_beata_> draik: USB drive? It des that to me on occation, but fixes itself. :/
[05:16] <Dr_willis> navetz,  i think you can drag the whole icontheme.tgz or whatever over the icons theme controlpanel.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> I rarely mess with the theme stuff so i may be wrong, It does worj that way for some other themes
[05:16] <Dr_willis> other theme parts at least. :)
[05:16] <navetz> Dr_willis: k ill try it thanks
[05:16] <Dr_willis> not using kde at the moment so i cant test
[05:18] <navetz> Dr_willis: it worked, thank you
[05:19] <Dr_willis> so logical eh. :)
[05:20] <Dr_willis> that installs that icon themne for that user only.
[05:20] <UUflu> Does anybody know how to upgrade to kde4?
[05:21] <Selanit> Hiya.  I'd like to set up my "windows" key as a shortcut for accessing the K menu.  I found the "Popup Launch Menu" entry in the system settings, but it refuses to let me use JUST the windows key.  It wants me to use at least two keys, when I only want to use the one.  How do I fix this?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Selanit,  im not sure thats doable
[05:25] <Dr_willis> the 'windows key' is a special meta-key.  called the 'super' key
[05:28] <Selanit> Dr_willis:  I've just been studying the "modifier keys" tab, and I see the win key listed there.  Perhaps I can edit some configuration file somewhere to get it treated as a regular key.  I'll keep looking.  I know that Gnome can do this, so it's not an inherent limitation.  It might well be a base assumption of KDE, though.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> gnome assumes the user cant handle 2 keys. at once
[05:29] <shaffy> does anyone know why my programs (autostart items) and just programs in general (e.g. firefox) will attempt to load and take a long time to load, or not load at all sometimes?
[05:29] <cryonv> Hey Guys...
[05:30] <Selanit> And KDE appears to assume that user will never want less than 2 keys.  I'd rather have a system where I can either have a single-key shortcut OR a multi-key shortcut.
[05:30] <Selanit> shaffy:  no doubt you committed some grave sin in a previous life, for which this is a just punishment. ^_^
[05:30] <shaffy> Selanit: too bad.. hehe
[05:31] <cryonv> I just went through and tried to get 7.10 loaded on an external USB drive... The loading went fine,but when it came to loading the boot loader it seemed to fail...
[05:31] <cryonv> Perhaps I should say installing the boot loader...
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I belive thers some manual tweaking ya have to do to get a ExternalUSb drive bootable.
[05:33] <cryonv> I'm installing Grub on the primary drive... so it shouldn't be too hard... but the grub installer on Kubuntu seems not to install on the correct partition...
[05:34] <shaffy> does anyone know why my programs (autostart items) and just programs in general (e.g. firefox) will attempt to load and take a long time to load, or not load at all sometimes?
[05:34] <cryonv> Or should I say the MBR...
[05:35] <Dr_willis> I recall under the older releases you had to  use the alternative install cd. and manually  run the update-grub thing from the console.
[05:36] <flash> anyone who can tell me how to compile linux kernel under ubuntu?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[05:36] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[05:38] <flash> but i'd like to design my own kernel that contains the drivers of my machine.
[05:38] <shift> Hello, new to the linux world so thought I would pop in here and say hi :D
[05:38] <GuHHH> is there any way i can use user's quota and group's quota if i just have one partition?
[05:57] <angel_> !module | me
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about module - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <darkness_s> !jdk
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Dr_willis> !java
[06:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:01] <darkness_s> that is so outdated
[06:03] <Selanit> Dr_willis:  got it working.  I found an FAQ that answered my question.  Here: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552777
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Selanit,  great!... err.. what was the question...
[06:04] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:05] <Selanit> Dr_willis:  I wanted my windows key to open the menu, all by itself, and was having problems because KDE assumes that the windows key is ALWAYS a modifier key, never a single key by itself.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> So now the official answer is read the kde faq! :)
[06:06] <Selanit> I was messing around with my xorg.conf before I got to the FAQ.  None of the google searches I tried actually brought up that FAQ until I started throwing in stuff from xorg.conf.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> my poor keyboard.. i got the tops wore off the A/S/D/W keys.. so now they show the blue lights underneeth and you cant tell what the letters are on them
[06:07] <Dr_willis> guess i go play some games and wear them down some more.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:08] <Selanit> It seems like a bad UI choice to force users to choose between win as a single key and win as a modifier key.  It should be capable of acting as both.
[06:08] <Selanit> Oh, well.
[06:08] <Selanit> cya, ppl
[06:11]  * lavacano201014 disconnects [/ame]
[06:24] <angel_> !ubuntu
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <draik> I am unable to edit anything in Firefox (Edit > Preferences)
[06:31] <draik> What am I doing wrong?
[06:37] <CPrgmSwR2> night
[06:44] <Link> @find wubi
[06:45] <Jucato> !wubi
[06:45] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[06:45] <Jucato> (the bot uses !, not @)
[06:45] <Link> yep
[06:45] <Link> thank
[06:45] <smax> hi
[06:45] <Link> I used wubi 7.10
[06:45] <smax> is there a firefox plugin to connect to the tor network ?
[06:45] <Link> but i don't know how to save data and desktop?
[06:45] <Link> anynone know how?
[06:46] <scrubb2000> Where's the KDE control center under gutsy?
[06:46] <Jucato> scrubb2000: Kubuntu uses System Settings instead of KControl
[06:46] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings
[06:47] <scrubb2000> Hmm...
[06:47] <Jucato> you can still run kcontrol in Alt+F2
[06:47] <ryan-c> is there a way to mount cds case insensitive?
[06:47] <Jucato> smax: you can search in https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox or try asking in #firefox (if there's a channel) or #ubuntu
[06:48] <Link> and about Wubi?
[06:48] <scrubb2000> jucato, I found the option in system settings.  Thanks.
[06:49] <scrubb2000> the one I was looking for, that is.
[06:50] <smax> thx Jucato
[06:50] <angel_> bye
[06:54] <Grav3Mind> hey everyon e hows it goin
[06:54] <Grav3Mind> is there anyone around?
[06:55] <Azzco> Sure
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> ive got a BIG problem with kubuntu
[06:55] <Azzco> !ask
[06:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> heh ok ^_^
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> well i installed
[06:55] <edi> hi, im recording 2 streams with streamtuner, and now i have 2 konsole windows. is it possible to have just 1 window with tabs?
[06:56] <biovore> yes
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> and when it rebooted
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> i cant get to the gui
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> someone told me to try "startx"
[06:56] <[ifr0g]> edi, ctrl + n
[06:56] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: Does it just stop at the splashscreen?
[06:56] <[ifr0g]> edi, ctrl +shift + n
[06:56] <Jucato> edi, [ifr0g]: Ctrl+Shift+N
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> well it loads the blue bar all the way across
[06:57] <[ifr0g]> ha,:))
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> then it gives a few errors about resolution
[06:57] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: You can press Ctrl+Alt+F[any key 1-6]
[06:57] <biovore> for text consoles
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> it loads to the text console
[06:57] <Azzco> While in a text console you can indeed try startx and look at the output
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> and someone told me to try startx
[06:57] <biovore> then F7 is the first graphical console if X is running..
[06:58] <biovore> (ctrl-alt-f7)
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> well when i typed startx
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> the screen went blck and a CRAPLOAD of text scrolls and then i get to see that last part of it
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> i cant even see it all
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> i think its my graphics card
[06:58] <Azzco> You can scroll up with Shift+PgU
[06:58] <biovore> shift + page-up and shift + page-down
[06:59] <biovore> Grav3Mind: what graphics card you have?
[06:59] <edi> hmm.. streamtuner starts streamripper with: x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q  ,but how tell him to use a tab of the allready opened window?
[06:59] <Grav3Mind> opensuse,ubuntu,xubuntu,kubuntu and fedora wont work. Geofrce fx 5500 pci with 256 megs of  ram
[06:59] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: In either case you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[07:00] <Grav3Mind> and what will that do
[07:00] <Grav3Mind> <--- is a totaly linux newbie trying to learn
[07:00] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: that command will let you reconfigure the graphics part of xorg with a few menus
[07:00] <Grav3Mind> will i know what to do? or will i need to know commands?
[07:01] <Azzco> You can choose what drivers, resulotion and that sort
[07:01] <Azzco> It's just arrows and enter basicly ;)
[07:01] <Grav3Mind> well ill try that and then ill come back here if it doesnt work ^_^
[07:01] <Azzco> Try the "nv" driver
[07:01] <Grav3Mind> thanks guys
[07:01] <Azzco> NP ;)
[07:01] <Grav3Mind> i really appreciate it....ive been at this for a week or two
[07:02] <Grav3Mind> bye for now guys ^_^
[07:02] <edi> any suggestions to start "x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q"  in a konsole tab?
[07:03] <Radi01> anyone there.
[07:03] <edi> instead than opening in a new window
[07:03] <crazy6> wah wah my sound doesn't work
[07:03] <edi> mine does ;p
[07:04] <crazy6> give me your sound
[07:04] <edi> here, take it <sound>
[07:05] <crazy6> no but serious what is up
[07:05] <edi> i dont know
[07:06] <Azzco> crazy6: have you tried running alsamixer from a console and check that nothing is muted and that the sound levels aren't extremly low?
[07:06] <Sajes> Anyone having trouble connecting to MSN using Kopete? I try to connect, then with no error, the butterfly icon goes grey and stops trying to connect. (But Kopete can connect to AIM.)
[07:06] <Radi01> How do I get root privileges for firestarter
[07:06] <Azzco> Sajes: I can't log in on MSN with kopete it just crashes for me.. I'm using Pidgin ATM
[07:07] <Sajes> Azzco: I see. Must be a bug with kopete. Wonder if there's a fix; I'll let you know if I find it.
[07:09] <Azzco> Sajes: my whole kopete crashes, not the same as you
[07:10] <Azzco> Sajes: if you run kopete from a terminal do you get any weird output trying to connect to MSN?
[07:12] <Sajes> Azzco: I'm not sure. Let me try.
[07:12] <f00f> anyone here familliar with ctags?
[07:13] <crazy6> Azzco: turned everything up, unmuted em all
[07:13] <Sajes> Azzco: Yes, I get two lines. one is "kopete: ERROR: Communication problem with kopete, it probably crashed." , and the other is "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-dakota" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0"
[07:14] <Azzco> Sajes: I get this...http://pastebin.com/d47920713
[07:14] <Azzco> crazy6: and sound still doesn't work?
[07:15] <jmichaelx> i am trying to install on a computer that had onboard graphics, but i am using a PCI nvidia card.... however, upon running the install CD, it detects the onboard graphics and not the PCI card, and then X will not start. will i have to remove the PCI card and install using the onboard, then install the PCI card or is there some kind ofcheatcode i can use to accomplish this at boot?
[07:15] <crazy6> Azzco: yeah, not working still... arts is running though
[07:15] <Sajes> jmichaelx: disable onboard video through BIOS.
[07:16] <Sajes> Azzco: Loading. I'm on dial up.. so.. well..  I don't know what to tell you then. sorry :s
[07:17] <Azzco> jmichaelx: my onboard video settings was hidden deep inside a menu I can't remember
[07:17] <Grav3Mind> it just says "warning overwriting setting" or soemthing like that
[07:17]  * Crell reads up and sees someone just said that...
[07:17] <jmichaelx> Sajes: no problem...i appreciate the suggestion
[07:17] <Crell> Ignore me!
[07:17] <Sajes> Azzco: That's a mean error :(
[07:17] <jmichaelx> lol @ Crell
[07:17] <Grav3Mind> i can go look like the screen and type it exactly if you want
[07:18] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: What was the command you wrote?
[07:18] <jmichaelx> hmm.... i looked all through my BIOS, but i guess I can look again
[07:18] <Azzco> Sure Grav3Mind
[07:18] <Crell> It may be under "advanced features" or something, or "integrated peripherals."
[07:18] <vbgunz> is it possible to run a single command line as root on startup *without* having to enter a password?
[07:18] <jmichaelx> it's an old P3, seems like it has fewer options than it should have
[07:18] <Crell> vbgunz: An init script, perhaps?
[07:19] <Grav3Mind> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:19] <Grav3Mind> thats what i typed
[07:19] <vbgunz> Crell: not sure where to start
[07:19] <Sajes> vbgunz: Iunno, but that'd potentially be dangerous I'd think.
[07:19] <vbgunz> I just want to run umount -a
[07:19] <Crell> Why?? :-)
[07:19] <vbgunz> I cannot do it as a regular user... I need to be root
[07:19] <vbgunz> Crell: to try and workaround a bug
[07:19] <Crell> Odd...
[07:20] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: if you're unsure what you write but you know the command you hav tab auto-completition ;) But that looked right
[07:20] <Grav3Mind> ....umm what?
[07:20] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:20] <Crell> Well, you'd want a script, or more likely a symlink to a script, named S99dostuff placed in your /etc/init.d/rcX.d/ directory where X is your runlevel.
[07:21] <Crell> Most of the files there are symlinks to something in /etc/init.d/
[07:21] <Crell> Er, /etc/rcX.d
[07:21] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: type sudo dpkg-re then tab and you'll see what I mean
[07:21]  * Grav3Mind runs to other computer
[07:21] <vbgunz> Crell: sounds great. found them. which runlevel is root :)
[07:22] <Crell> runlevel != user.
[07:22] <Grav3Mind> ......command not found?
[07:22] <Azzco> o.O
[07:22] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:23] <Azzco> sudo apt-get install xorg? lol
[07:23] <Radi01> How do I get root privileges for firestarter.
[07:23] <vbgunz> Crell: I don't think I would want to put it in rcS.d .. the README states, mounting, etc takes place after that dir has been run
[07:24] <Crell> Hm.  Ok, scratch that.
[07:24] <vbgunz> as for runlevels, not sure what they are, I'll google for something
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> Azzco
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> im a moron
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> i forgot the tab part
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> it said choose package to configure
[07:25] <vbgunz> Crell: probably and most likely runlevel 5
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> and when i did sudo apt-get install xorg
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> it said newest version install
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> *installed
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> it didnt really do anything
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> SOOO whats next?
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> ^__^
[07:25] <vbgunz> Crell: the bug has to do with mounts not showing up on the desktop mounted or not...
[07:25] <se7en_> !runlevel
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <crazy6> Azzco: hrm ok, well, it wants to output over a different port in linux... I home it is compat. with whatever windows wants to do!
[07:26] <impresive> õåëëëîîóóó
[07:26] <vbgunz> se7en_: I think I have a good resource on runlevels... am still reading it though
[07:26] <vbgunz> brb
[07:26] <Azzco> lol Grav3Mind... ... it doesn't work as it used to before for me :S
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> so what does that mean for me?
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:27] <crazy6> is there a control panel for drive mounting? I am seeming allowed to list but not read files on my ext3 data drive as user....
[07:27] <Azzco> I have no idea...
[07:27]  * Azzco scratches head
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> great -_-
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> i was all excited
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:28] <Azzco> Try without the -phigh at the end
[07:28] <Grav3Mind> k
[07:28]  * Grav3Mind runs back to computer again
[07:34] <Grav3Mind> Azzco
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> brought up the menu
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> BUT
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> its bringing it up for my onboard
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> when it auto detects it
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> even when i choose nv
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> the next screen says intel onborad blah blah
[07:36] <Azzco> Well you can manually edit the configuration file with a text editor ;)
[07:36] <vbgunz> crazy6: yeah, kcontrol > system administration > disk and filesystems
[07:36] <Azzco> Are you really sure that your nVidia card is properly plugged in?
[07:36] <Grav3Mind> indeed
[07:36] <Grav3Mind> as i can run windows if i boot to it
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> question
[07:37] <Azzco> "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" will open the config file
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> it asks me resolution
[07:37] <QMario> Has anyone been able to login to GMail with Konqueror successfully?
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> and has 3 shosen
[07:37] <Azzco> google up xorg.conf and check it out
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> *chosen
[07:37] <Azzco> QMario: yes!
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> how can i choose different
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> if i hit enter it just goes to the next screen
[07:37] <vbgunz> QMario: most of googles apps act funny in konqueror
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> is it tab?
[07:38] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: IT should be arrows and eneter unless you are to specify a value or name
[07:38] <blackout> heya
[07:38] <blackout> need some help
[07:38] <Azzco> !ask
[07:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:38] <blackout> :)))
[07:38] <Grav3Mind> well the highest resolution is like 19 something
[07:38] <Grav3Mind> and i cant support that
[07:39] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: 19!? o.O
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> it needs to be changed
[07:39] <Azzco> 19 pixels?
[07:39] <blackout> if i try t opoen my shell it opens 2 windows
[07:39] <blackout> 1 with my shell
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> like 1920x####
[07:39] <blackout> and 1 shell /bin/sh
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> or something like that
[07:39] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf look it through carefully
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> its got a star next to it
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> k
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> i will
[07:40]  * Grav3Mind again will be back
[07:41] <blackout> and i get
[07:41] <blackout> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[07:41] <blackout> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/mc.desktop
[07:41] <blackout> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/sumc.desktop
[07:41] <blackout> in the /bin/sh shell
[07:41] <blackout> if i close the right shell is closes normally
[07:42] <blackout> if i close the /bin/sh shell it closes both shells
[07:46]  * Azzco is growing tired and can't keep eyes open
[07:47] <Azzco> I'm going to take a quick power nap..
[07:47]  * Grav3Mind hopes you come back
[07:47] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:47] <Grav3Mind> still looking around
[07:48] <Azzco> Does it make you any wiser looking in that file?
[07:48] <Grav3Mind> well im thinking theres a few things that need to be changed
[07:48] <mzanfardino> question: I have an intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter in my lenovo lappy.  I've installed kubuntu gutsy and am using the default driver which shows up as iwp2100.  I have sporatic connectivity.  I can connect to my wireless network, but I can watch it drop every few seconds, then restore with wavmon.  Any idea what the cause might be?
[07:49] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: Google up xorg I bet that there's a ton that you can change but I think that you should first backup the exisiting one and just change the driver and resolution if you find out how
[07:50] <Grav3Mind> ok thanks
[07:50] <Azzco> I'll be back in a few minutes ;)
[07:50] <Grav3Mind> k ^_^
[07:50] <Grav3Mind> and thanks for your help ^_^
[08:01] <Arelis> When i try to add a printer in the printers dialog of KDE, the add printer option is grayed out. Why is it grayed out, and what do i need to install? (I didn't install kubuntu-desktop, but kde-core)
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: either you rot admin or cups is not installed or started, go into the services section and start cups
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> not*
[08:06] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: also mark cups to automatically start on boot
[08:06] <ubunturos>  I'm using Kubuntu 6.06, and installed the gnome-desktop on it. However, even after assigning the ALT+F1 shortcut to the menu, it doesn't seem to pop up, what could be the reason?
[08:07] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos: doesnt who up whre ?
[08:08] <ubunturos> Linux_Galore: eh?
[08:08] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: i did all those things, still not working.
[08:08] <Grav3Mind> is azzco back?
[08:08] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: so the services manager shows cups is running ?
[08:09] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: okay, i got to the printer adding part - but when adding it, it shows no vendors and models. So no drivers
[08:09] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: thats usually a sign cups it not running, cant edit what isnt running
[08:09] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: how do i enable it?
[08:10] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: in the services section in k-> system settings
[08:10] <Grav3Mind> i guess not
[08:11] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos: when you install the gnome desktop if you reboot it should show the option in the login screen to select gnome as the desktop
[08:12] <ubunturos> Linux_Galore: you seem to have got the question wrong
[08:12] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: that section will not load
[08:13] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos do you want to run kde and gnome at the same time ?
[08:14] <ubunturos> Linux_Galore: no, I run them independently
[08:14] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos: well if you want to do that log out
[08:15] <Grav3Mind> hey guys i have a question
[08:15] <Grav3Mind> well i should just ask
[08:15] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:16] <Grav3Mind> but anyway. if i want to dump the pre included nvidia driver with ubuntu
[08:17] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: the free FOSS one ?
[08:17] <Grav3Mind> i guess
[08:17] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: just install and run envy
[08:17] <Grav3Mind> the one that comes when you download kubuntu dvd
[08:17] <Grav3Mind> well theres a reason im asking this
[08:17] <Linux_Galore> envy will install the comercial driver for nvidia or ati
[08:18] <Grav3Mind> i cant get to it
[08:18] <Grav3Mind> because it wont load my gui
[08:18] <Grav3Mind> and even then, i wont be able to get online
[08:18] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: aaah, have you run envy before ?
[08:19] <Grav3Mind> because im using a belkin usb wireless reciever
[08:19] <marcel> hi
[08:19] <Grav3Mind> so theres no way for me to access the internet even if i did manager to get to the desktop
[08:20] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: so your running and rig that isnt exactly Linux friendly and you having issues
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> very much
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> i cant even get the GUI to load with the default nv drivers
[08:20] <marcel> i tried to install kde 4rc1 using apt-get but the packages are not installable, anyone got this working?
[08:20] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: did the dvd have a network connection
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> it never evn took me to that part
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> *even
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> im thinking of taking out my nvidia card
[08:21] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: if you cant get the dvd to do a live boot then it usually means you have issues
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> yeah
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> it wont do a live boot
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> why is that?
[08:21] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: Nvidia card should work all my machines have one
[08:22] <Grav3Mind> its a geforce fx 5500 pci with 256 mb of ram
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: turn all the power management of in the bios
[08:22] <Grav3Mind> hmm lemme go look
[08:23] <Grav3Mind> ill brb dont go anywhere lol
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> pretty much turn everything off in the bios windows xp or Linux doesnt need any of it
[08:23] <marcel> why would that help?
[08:23] <marcel> just use the nv driver
[08:24] <Linux_Galore> marcel: the dvd defaults to the nv driver, I think he has a bios conflict causing the machine to hang
[08:24] <marcel> its agp, so it cannot have these conflicts
[08:24] <Grav3Mind> whoa!!!!! i just went back in the room and its at the desktop!!!
[08:24] <Grav3Mind> i dont know how or why!
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> i was just playing with the xorg config file
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> i gues i did something right
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> ill brb
[08:25] <mot_> ...
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> OH I KNOW WHY!!! i told it to start in safe graphics mode
[08:25] <mot_> sudo cat /var/log/messages |grep EE
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> what does that mean?
[08:26] <mot_> it means it uses the safest working settings.
[08:26] <mot_> run the command i gave you
[08:26] <mot_> tell me if it yields anything interesting
[08:26] <marcel> i would do less or tail
[08:26] <Grav3Mind> in what
[08:26] <marcel> instead of cat
[08:26] <Grav3Mind> konsole?
[08:26] <mot_> sorry i lie
[08:27] <mot_> sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE
[08:27] <mot_> don't worry about less/tail, xorg.conf never yields that many errors anyways. a dozen lines at best.
[08:27] <Grav3Mind> in konsole?
[08:27] <mot_> yes.
[08:27] <Grav3Mind> k
[08:30] <dsmith> hi, kwin crashes when I am away from my machine
[08:31] <dsmith> I locked the screen and walked away
[08:31] <dsmith> logged back in and kwin seems to be not running
[08:31] <dsmith> I have to reboot
[08:32] <Grav3Mind> anyone ever get a usb wireless internet reciever to work with linux
[08:32] <marcel> anyone got kde 4 rc1 working?
[08:35] <Grav3Mind> anyone?
[08:36] <Grav3Mind> ive never really heard of it before but getting one to work should be possible somehow
[08:37] <_6502_> grav3 what are you talking about ?
[08:37] <Grav3Mind> usb wireless internet reciever
[08:37] <_6502_> ouch
[08:37] <Grav3Mind> thats not encouraging
[08:37] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:38] <_6502_> grav3 i had a fight with wpa-psk for quite long
[08:38] <Grav3Mind> well its not protected
[08:38] <Grav3Mind> its open access
[08:39] <_6502_> grav3 if you go for simpler things (wep, open) should be easy...
[08:39] <Grav3Mind> you mean using a wireless usb reciever?
[08:39] <Grav3Mind> will work?
[08:40] <_6502_> grav3 i had mine working with wep when i was on debian...
[08:40] <Grav3Mind> wow how did you get it to work?
[08:40] <Grav3Mind> was it plug and play?
[08:41] <_6502_> grav3 i installed the ndis support (you know... that stuff that uses windows drivers) and just worked...
[08:41] <Grav3Mind> ndiswrapper?
[08:42] <_6502_> grav3 yes
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> was it hard to install?
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> cause ive only heard of it
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> never done it
[08:42] <_6502_> may be i was dead lucky... but everything just worked
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:42] <_6502_> it was a debian package
[08:43] <_6502_> for sure i got anyway the impression that wireless on linux is not ready for prime time
[08:44] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:44] <_6502_> not a linux fault... it's because of all those closed-source drivers...
[08:44] <_6502_> still the problem remains
[08:44] <Grav3Mind> yeah
[08:45] <Grav3Mind> youd think that with wine you could install the driver
[08:45] <Grav3Mind> no?
[08:45] <_6502_> ouch
[08:45] <_6502_> i wouldn't even try that.... wine is not an emulator :-)
[08:45] <_6502_> may be vmware player could work, however
[08:46] <_6502_> then you could route trough the virtual machine.... hehehe jk
[08:47] <Grav3Mind> i know wines not an emulator
[08:47] <Grav3Mind> its a compatibility layer
[08:47] <_6502_> but kidding apart i'd give a shot to ndiswrapper... i suppose it's a package even on ubuntu; probably even newer than debian version
[08:48] <_6502_> yes... but it's a compatibility mostly at gui level, not lower levels
[08:48] <Grav3Mind> how hard is ndiswrapper to install?
[08:49] <_6502_> once installed there was just a command to load a windows driver, accepting the .sys file as parameter
[08:49] <_6502_> google for your usb dongle to see if anyone got it working before
[08:50] <_6502_> mine was a belkin and worked
[08:52] <_6502_> after the driver is loading there are special commands in linux for wireless support (configuration, probing etc.) and then you just see the network card in ifconfig
[08:52] <_Angelus_> is there something to make kde/kubuntu look like vista?
[08:53] <Grav3Mind> 6502 mine is a belkin as well
[08:57] <_6502_> googling for the model name and linux gives bad news or good news ?
[08:57] <Grav3Mind> nothing really lol
[08:57] <_6502_> nah... impossible
[08:58] <_6502_> with mainstream usb stuff you're never the first one to try
[08:58] <_6502_> what is the model name ?
[08:58] <semistud2354> i have a question...would anyone know how to fix my problem...when i click on hibernate....it just desplays verticle colors that blink on the screen....and when it click or pres exc or space....it doesnt do anything...and keeps on blinking colors
[08:59] <Hoondie> hey people, anyone know why skim isn't working since i have upgraded from Edgy to Gutsy? I have removed/reinstalled, no luck.. Basically when i press ctrl + space nothing happens
[08:59] <_6502_> one really silly thing is that often USB dongles are all marked with a certain model name but indeed they're different hardware, so you've to check serial numbers to know exactly what hardware you got
[09:01] <_6502_> i've been told that hybernate in linux is not at sood as linux sound card mess... i think this says it all
[09:01] <_6502_> s/sood/good/
[09:02] <semistud2354> huh
[09:03] <semistud2354> im more confused now
[09:03] <semistud2354> lol
[09:03] <joseph> how do i make a .zip of a file on my desktop?
[09:03] <semistud2354> right click compress
[09:03] <joseph> i dont see that option
[09:03] <semistud2354> then compress as
[09:03] <semistud2354> install arc
[09:04] <semistud2354> ark**
[09:04] <joseph> im on gnome
[09:04] <semistud2354> o...
[09:04] <semistud2354> im kubuntu
[09:04] <joseph> ok ill join ubuntu lol
[09:04] <semistud2354> ok...good
[09:05] <semistud2354> i have a question...would anyone know how to fix my problem...when i click on hibernate....it just desplays verticle colors that blink on the screen....and when it click or pres exc or space....it doesnt do anything...and keeps on blinking colors
[09:05] <onishidato> joseph: you can use 7zip
[09:05] <onishidato> !7zip
[09:05] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:06] <semistud2354> !hibernate
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <semistud2354> o damnit....
[09:07] <onishidato> semistud2354: i think your graphic card have some problem. check it
[09:07] <semistud2354> i have the default driver...
[09:07] <semistud2354> the one that gets installed when you go to restricted driver
[09:07] <semistud2354> its an ati 200m
[09:07] <semistud2354> integrated
[09:07] <semistud2354> 128
[09:07] <onishidato> i c
[09:08] <semistud2354> theres a driver...
[09:08] <onishidato> semistud2354: how long have you had this problem?
[09:08] <semistud2354> since i installed ubuntu
[09:09] <semistud2354> i installed the 200m drivers...but they would give me...bars on the bottom left of my screen
[09:09] <onishidato> semistud2354: and your ubuntu version?
[09:09] <semistud2354> gutsy
[09:09] <onishidato> semistud2354: can you reinstall the driver again?
[09:09] <semistud2354> just 3 multi colored bars....on the bottom right (correction from left)
[09:09] <semistud2354> the xserver one
[09:10] <onishidato> yep
[09:10] <semistud2354> from restricted whatever
[09:10] <semistud2354> i suppose...but i really dont think thats it
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Alright guys, after seeing how much trouble it usually costs, and the labyrinth of desktop environments/programs that are available, i decided to switch to Windows XP. Problem is, i've gotten accostumed to some of the feature Ubuntu gives me. Such as desktop search. How do i get this in windows XP?
[09:10] <semistud2354> i think its connected to something else ubuntu does
[09:10] <ubuntu_> (Been using ubuntu for 4 years or so)
[09:10] <ubuntu_> (But after i couldn't get my tablet to work, that was the final drop.)
[09:11] <semistud2354> um...when i boot my comp....i get a message that says...cannot allocate resource regian 7
[09:11] <onishidato> !regian
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <ubuntu> i used it but it do not save anything
[09:12] <onishidato> !regain
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <ubuntu> my desktop and document too
[09:12] <Tm_T> onishidato: don't go fishin'
[09:12] <onishidato> sorry
[09:12] <onishidato> just try to search
[09:13] <semistud2354> im srry i cant spell
[09:13] <semistud2354> region
[09:14] <ubuntu> can i config it?
[09:22] <riri> Hi
[09:23] <riri> kde4-dev and mostly dev are broken on hardy ... Do you know when it will be done again ?
[09:24] <riri> meanwhile can I compile qt4 and kde4 from svn ?
[09:24] <[ifr0g]> !find Kochizz
[09:25] <ubotu> Package/file kochizz does not exist in gutsy
[09:26] <travkin> riri: kde4 sucks, don't compile now
[09:26] <travkin> w8 for final release.
[09:27] <riri> i compile it on 32 bits and it works fine...
[09:27] <travkin> works fine?!
[09:27] <travkin> lol :))))
[09:27] <travkin> its looks crazy
[09:27] <riri> not at all
[09:27] <riri> i have nearly all what is in kde3
[09:28] <riri> but that's not the point
[09:28] <travkin> you also have SMALL panel?!
[09:28] <riri> no
[09:28] <travkin> you also have that stability?
[09:28] <riri> but i don't need it
[09:28] <travkin> how kde3
[09:28] <riri> at the moment
[09:28] <riri> 32 bits aren't broken
[09:29] <riri> i would like to have them on 64 bits
[09:31] <riri> i am working mostly on kde4 now
[09:31] <riri> with svn
[09:32] <travkin> how you change wallpaper on kde4?
[09:32] <travkin> and kde menu button position
[09:32] <riri> i told you
[09:32] <riri> svn has a right click mouse on screen
[09:32] <riri> change wallpaper
[09:32] <Jucato> travkin: right-click on the desktop. moving plasmoids on the plasma panel is still WIP
[09:33] <travkin> hmm, ok
[09:33] <Jucato> but only if you have the current (post rc1) version
[09:33] <travkin> yeap
[09:38] <travkin> How to change wallpaper in Kde4?
 travkin: right-click on the desktop. moving plasmoids on the plasma panel is still WIP
[09:40] <Jucato> travkin: what version of KDE4 do you have?
[09:40] <travkin> rc1
[09:40] <Jucato> [17:33] <Jucato> but only if you have the current (post rc1) version
[09:40] <Arelis> !windows
[09:40] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:40] <travkin> i have current evrsion
[09:41] <Jucato> post rc1 = after rc1
[09:41] <Jucato> travkin: please don't PM me
[09:41] <Jucato> ask in here
[09:41] <travkin> ok
[09:41] <travkin> how to check what version of kde4
[09:41] <travkin> i have?
[09:41] <travkin> i installed yesterday it, following instructions on kubuntu.org
[09:41] <travkin> from hardy-backports
[09:41] <Jucato> after rc1 = most current, daily versions. meaning it must be compiled from source
[09:41] <travkin> aah.
[09:43] <travkin> how to compile from source it?
[09:43] <travkin> any instructions?
[09:43] <Jucato> http://techabase.kde.org
[09:43] <travkin> ok, thank you
[09:43] <travkin> how to change GTK theme in kde4?
[09:44] <travkin> firefox not supporting gtk themes
[09:44] <travkin> in kde4
[09:44] <Jucato> there is no way yet in KDE4
[09:44] <travkin> ok
[09:44] <travkin> and how to remove clock
[09:44] <travkin> on panel
[09:44] <travkin> and add system tray
[09:45] <Jucato> right now you can't. it's still a work in progress
[09:45] <Jucato> the system tray is there, but it isn't showing any icons. again, work in progress
[10:01] <ward_> Morning guys
[10:01] <ward_> I have a question, where can I find a plugin (and how do I install it) for .WMV files ? or MPEG files?
[10:03] <darkness_s> !mpeg
[10:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:03] <darkness_s> !wmv
[10:04] <darkness_s> ward_ are you in gutsy?
[10:04] <darkness_s> you can install kubuntu-restricted-extras and vlc
[10:05] <ward_> uhm
[10:06] <ward_> gutsy.. :shy:
[10:06] <ward_> sorry just running 2 days with Kubuntu.
[10:06] <posingaspopular> ward_: install the vlc media player
[10:06] <ward_> ok
[10:06] <posingaspopular> it runs almost all the files you would need
[10:06] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install vlc should be the command
[10:07] <ward_> how you guys knows that commands?
[10:07] <ward_> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:07] <posingaspopular> as for audio, follow the guides that the nice bot posted above
[10:07] <posingaspopular> ward_: ive been using kubuntu for about a year now, so i picked it up. also i ran that command yesterday.
[10:08] <posingaspopular> it can be intimidating to use at first, but no worries, that's what this chan is for
[10:08] <ward_> :p
[10:08] <ward_> Thanks.
[10:08] <darkness_s> sudo: run as superuser
[10:08] <ward_> :p
[10:08] <darkness_s> apt-get: program to manage packages
[10:08] <ward_> hehe
[10:08] <ward_> q: what should be the command to install Adobe  CS3 design premium then?
[10:09] <darkness_s> mmm
[10:09] <darkness_s> there is no CS3 for linux
[10:09] <ward_> oh
[10:09] <ward_> :(
[10:09] <ward_> Can I emulate it?
[10:09] <darkness_s> yep
[10:09] <darkness_s> :(
[10:09] <ward_> VMWare or something?
[10:09] <ward_> (I read about it)
[10:10] <pjeide> !alsa
[10:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:10] <darkness_s> you can run it in vmware, but it would be slower
[10:10] <darkness_s> cause of the graphics card
[10:11] <darkness_s> vmware doesn't support them fully
[10:11] <ward_> ok
[10:11] <ward_> I'm running atm kubuntu at a low end pc
[10:11] <ward_> also
[10:12] <ward_> AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 2.2Ghz - Ati radeon 9600 pro 256mb  - 20GB hdd 5200RPM
[10:12] <ward_> 2x 256mb ram(dual channel)
[10:12] <ward_> but it works :D
[10:13] <darkness_s> yeah, it should perform well on that machine
[10:14] <ward_> :)
[10:14] <ward_> but into this machine is an other hdd with windows on it... with 7200RPM
[10:14] <ward_> :p
[10:14] <travkin> i'm running AMD Athlon XP 2.8+ - nvidia geforce 2 mx - 80gb hdd
[10:14] <travkin> 512 ram
[10:14] <ward_> :p
[10:15] <ward_> nice
[10:15] <travkin> and it run OK.
[10:15] <pjeide> does running games (counter-strike source) in wine have the potential to cause malfunctions with the soundcard drivers?  alsamixer reports no such device, /proc/asound/cards doesn't exists, I have no sound in any application, yet lspci shows my integrated audio device @ 00:1b.0.. any suugestions?
[10:15] <llutz> ward_: "have fun" if you want to work with a vmware-windows with only 512MB on host-machine :)
[10:16] <pjeide> it seems that my issues with sound coincided with running wine, but I could be mistaken.. I wish I was more positive about the origin of my dilema..
[10:16] <darkness_s> and photoshop
[10:16] <ward_> You think it woudn't work?
[10:16] <llutz> ward_: define "work"
[10:16] <ward_> :p
[10:16] <darkness_s> pjeide: i run half-life 2 and it hasn't given me problems so far
[10:17] <llutz> ward_: the emulated Win needs more RAM you can offer, so it might start but isn't funny at all
[10:17] <pjeide> darkness_s: thanks
[10:17] <darkness_s> pjeide: you are welcome
[10:17] <ward_> so i need to buy a buy a neew pc
[10:17] <llutz> ward_: RAM at least
[10:18] <darkness_s> ward_: yes, you need more ram to run vmware nicely
[10:18] <ward_> ok
[10:22] <ward_> Question
[10:22] <ward_> http://i12.tinypic.com/8acp3c7.png
[10:22] <ward_> how can I make a thing like on the right?
[10:23] <llutz> ward_: use conky, a system monitoring software
[10:23] <pag> ward_, looks like conky...
[10:23] <darkness_s> i think that is conky
[10:23] <_DT> ward_ : install conky or a super karamba desktop widget
[10:24] <darkness_s> lol
[10:24] <darkness_s> everybody agrees
[10:24] <llutz> oh, i thought it's conky :)
[10:24] <_DT> :-)
[10:24] <_DT> K > Utilities > SuperKaramba > Get More Stuff
[10:24] <ward_> :D
[10:24] <ward_> htnaks
[10:24] <_DT> has some good widgets too ;-)
[10:25] <llutz> ward_: superkaramba on your pc might not be a good idea, it needs much more ressources than conky
[10:25] <darkness_s> ward_: bear in mind that SuperKaramba is preety resource heavy
[10:25] <llutz> ok it offers more eye-candy too
[10:25] <ward_> SO i thake Conky?
[10:26] <llutz> try it
[10:26] <ward_> sudo apt-get install conky
[10:27] <ward_> Works
[10:27] <llutz> ward_: to get some ideas how to customize it: http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[10:27] <ward_> Thanks
[10:29] <ward_> hmm
[10:29] <ward_> ist's installed
[10:29] <ward_> how to open :/
[10:30] <pjeide> Why would I have no /proc/asound directory? Is that standard with ALSA?
[10:30] <ward_> ! open files
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open files - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ward_> !open
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <darkness_s> try typing conky on a console
[10:31] <ward_> pjot's works
[10:31] <ward_> oh it' works
[10:31] <ward_> nice
[10:31] <llutz> pjeide: that file only exists if alsa runs and sees a supported card in your system (iirc)
[10:32] <pjeide> ty
[10:33] <pjeide> how about /etc/asound.conf...?
[10:33] <conma> Hi
[10:33] <pjeide> is /etc/asound.conf a standard file with ALSA?
[10:33] <pjeide> (no activity over on the channel)
[10:35] <posingaspopular> hi conma, welcome to #kubuntu
[10:35] <conma> who can tell me why my Konq does not work like internet browser?
[10:36] <darkness_s> conma: what happens when you try to open a web page
[10:37] <jilux> 大家好
[10:37] <conma> Konq says "connection error", but links2 opens the same page
[10:37] <darkness_s> !cn
[10:37] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:37] <jilux> 这应该是个kubuntu
[10:38] <jilux> 的聊天室呀 我第一次来
[10:38] <posingaspopular> conma: do you get unknown host errors or just 'connection error'?
[10:40] <Lynoure> is the KDE4 rc1 in gutsy backports supposed to be in an installable (though not supported) shape? I keep on getting notes on broken packages
[10:40] <Tm_T> Lynoure: like?
[10:41] <conma> I think it's "error loading page" and "error connecting to host"
[10:41] <darkness_s> Lynoure: it should be installable
[10:41] <darkness_s> I installed it
[10:42] <jpatrick> Lynoure: you should be installing from the Launchpad PPA
[10:42] <Lynoure> Tm_T: they scrolled off already, I'll tell you if the rehappen (I'm trying again after yet another update and clean)
[10:42] <Tm_T> Lynoure: roger
[10:42] <conma> This host is "pingable" and I can open the page with links2
[10:42] <Lynoure> jpatrick: because the backparts is broken? or why?
[10:42] <korgano> hi everybody, can anyone tell where to put options for certain modules? I need to make sure my wifi/module (iwl4965) is always loaded with "hwencrypt=1"
[10:42] <Lynoure> s/parts/ports
[10:42] <jpatrick> Lynoure: because that's where the lastest are
[10:42] <llutz> conma: switch off "use-cache" in konquerors settings
[10:44] <Lynoure> jpatrick: I prefer ok backports to lastests 'someguy's own', that's why I asked about it.... but I did try ppa too, yesterday, it did not have kdm-kde4 and installing that from backports caused conflicts
[10:44] <darkness_s> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main
[10:44] <jpatrick> Lynoure: this 'someguy' rocks :D
[10:45] <posingaspopular> conma: ah i see. yea i get that in konqueror when I try to open links in IRC, and if I try to open it again it works. duno how to fix it, i just use firefox
[10:45] <conma> Amazing! It works! Thank you VERY MUCH :) Why it does not want to work with cache?
[10:45] <darkness_s> Lynoure: kubuntu.com recommends that repository
[10:45] <Lynoure> jpatrick: see what I said about kdm-kde4...?
[10:45] <Lynoure> darkness_s: ditto to you...
[10:45] <darkness_s> ditto?
[10:45] <Lynoure> darkness_s: see what I said about kdm-kde4
[10:46] <jpatrick> Lynoure: personally I wouldn't use the KDE4 KDM, you just need to add a new xsession in the right dir as the instructions say
[10:46] <Lynoure> darkness_s: What instructions? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php tells to install that...
[10:47] <jpatrick> Lynoure: that says nothing about KDM
[10:47] <Lynoure> oops, nicks wrong way around, sorry about that.
[10:47] <jpatrick> oh, wait, it does, odd
[10:47] <Lynoure> jpatrick: yes, it does.
[10:48] <Lynoure> But ppa repo does not have kdm-kde4 and installing that from backports when the rest is from ppa breaks stuff.
[10:48] <jpatrick> Lynoure: ignore it and do what the rest says, it works fine here
[10:48] <conma> Who knows how to deal with Conexant modems? Is there an opensource driver?
[10:49] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i followed that guide and it all went good
[10:49] <Lynoure> jpatrick: Don't know enough on xephyr to be comfortable with it..  what exactly does it do?
[10:49] <erland> Hi all, have upgraded to Gutsy recently following official instructions but now have a couple of strange issues. Can someone help explain/fix? Let's start with - when I click Logout/Shutdown button I can't shutdown or restart, I only have the logout option...?
[10:49] <Lynoure> darkness_s: even the kdm part?
[10:49] <jpatrick> Lynoure: no idea.. (never used it)
[10:49] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes
[10:50] <Lynoure> darkness_s: when? I wonder if something changed meanwhile?
[10:50] <darkness_s> Lynoure: two or three days ago
[10:50] <Lynoure> darkness_s: Did you get kdm-kde4 from backports? or from somewhere else?
[10:51] <bazhang> erland: where does log out take you to? can you shutdown from there?
[10:53] <erland> bazhang: yeah, it takes me back to the normal login screen and then I can logout by Ctrl+s and it gives me the shutdown & restart buttons - it's just frustrating to have to go through both steps.
[10:53] <bobiras> hi all, could someone tell me from where i change screen resolution on kubuntu plz?
[10:53] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes, i guess... i didn't check i just installed it
[10:54] <darkness_s> it says provider: Ubuntu MOTU developers
[10:54] <jpatrick> that's right, it's in universe
[10:54] <Lynoure> darkness_s: If I try following the instructions with both ppa and backports enables, I get an ugly mess...
[10:55] <bazhang> erland: what about from the konsole? does that allow it?
[10:55] <bazhang> bobiras: under peripherals  monitor and display
[10:55] <jpatrick> bobiras: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? (back up your xorg.conf first)
[10:55] <FlyBye> Hi all...
[10:55] <bobiras> nope
[10:56] <FlyBye> need some help with grub problems...
[10:56] <darkness_s> Lynoure: that's weird
[10:56] <FlyBye> cannot boot to kubuntu...
[10:56] <FlyBye> tried to fix it with easy bcd .. didnt work..
[10:56] <bobiras> i'll try, i just restarted linux and doesn't fit the screen
[10:56] <bazhang> !grub | FlyBye
[10:56] <ubotu> FlyBye: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:56] <FlyBye> tried to use wingrub - it cant see any particions...?
[10:57] <darkness_s> Lynoure: maybe you should install them separately
[10:57] <darkness_s> Lynoure: first kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime
[10:57] <darkness_s> Lynoure: and then kdm-kde4
[10:57] <erland> bazhang: I'm not sure, I haven't tried from the console but I think I did try by keyboard shortcut for "Halt without Confirmation" (Alt+Ctrl+Shift+PgDn) and it worked like that, but I'd like the GUI if possible - When I ran the Kubuntu Gutsy Live CD it gave me the shutdown/restart/suspend options.
[10:58] <bazhang> erland: that is very strange
[10:58] <FlyBye> The various docs on grub/windows problems assume that one has either only one versionof windows.. i have xp and vista or it assumes the problems came when windows was installed after kubuntu... I had xp and vista first and kubuntu came as the 3rd o-system...
[11:00] <erland> bazhang: I know, I don't get it. I used to have the normal dialogue under Feisty too...
[11:00] <bazhang> http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-how-to-tripleboot-windows-xp-vista-and-ubuntu-193474.php FlyBye
[11:00] <bazhang> erland: normal here on my gutsy kubuntu
[11:02] <Lynoure> darkness_s: that's what I did...
[11:02] <Lynoure> darkness_s: the last step ended in massive dependency hell.
[11:03] <erland> bazhang: OK, well next one is weird scrolling - after upgrading, the scrolling in programs like OOo and Firefox is jumpy regardless of the "smooth scrolling" setting. It's actually really frustrating even though it sounds like a small thing - makes stuff hard to read.
[11:03] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i have no idea what happened then
[11:03] <bazhang> erland: not small if its frustrating
[11:04] <bazhang> erland: I tend to turn off smooth scrolling as it's anything but smooth
[11:04] <Lynoure> darkness_s: do you have backports in your sources list?
[11:05] <Lynoure> darkness_s: if not, that could explain stuff :)
[11:06] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes, i do have backports
[11:06] <Lynoure> darkness_s: hmm
[11:06] <erland> bazhang: yeah, it's probably a little better without smooth scrolling, but still jumpy. Again, smooth scrolling worked fine under Feisty.
[11:06] <Lynoure> darkness_s: and ppa, too?
[11:07] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes
[11:07] <bazhang> erland: feisty and gutsy are very different experiences--I could get almost nothing to work under feisty, and gutsy is not that bad (for me)
[11:07] <piotr16> who is pl?
[11:07] <darkness_s> !pastebin
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:08] <Aphelia> hi there, i installed kubuntu yesterday, using debian before. i figured out, there might be more "nescessary" repositories, than the free one?
[11:08] <bazhang> Aphelia: as in restricted (codecs etc)?
[11:08] <darkness_s> Lynoure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45768/
[11:08] <Aphelia> i read something about "community repositories", can anyone help me with the deb url?
[11:08] <FlyBye> thanks folks - have had a look at the info in the page that the bot gave and it seems to be what I am looking for..
[11:08] <Aphelia> yes, like that
[11:09] <bazhang> Aphelia: via gui or cli--adept is the gui
[11:09] <Aphelia> there must be something as the "non-free" equivalent in debian, i think.. via adept
[11:10] <bazhang> Aphelia: yes, there is, and if that doesn't have what you want then there is medibuntu.org as well
[11:10] <erland> bazhang: Alright, moving on to strike 3, Amarok has become unusable. Not sure if this has to do with upgrading, as it slowed down after I upgraded to a newer less stable package (maybe 1.7 at the time) while still using Feisty. Anyway, I rolled back to the standard stable package, but it's been so slow that it now just crashes when I try to use it. I have a large collection, but it should be able to handle that right? Again, using
[11:10] <erland> the Gutsy Live CD,everything was dandy, even after hooking it up to my large collection on external HDD. Any suggestions?
[11:11] <Aphelia> is there any site, , where i can look up the urls easily?
[11:12] <Lynoure> darkness_s: one last question, did you install with aptitude (like I did), adept, apt or something else? (might make a difference when it comes to recommended stuff)
[11:12] <bazhang> Aphelia: just open up adept and enable the repositories there (including canonical partner repos), then follow instructions at medibuntu org for enabling those
[11:13] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i used apt-get
[11:13] <bazhang> erland: using the live gutsy cd with feisty installed was alright, then installing the gutsy over feisty (or apt dist upgrading via the net) things became broken?
[11:14] <bobiras> sorry i'm noob, i can not find peripherals monitor and display, can someone help me plz?
[11:14] <Aphelia> bazhang: thanks :) I'l try that
[11:15] <bazhang> Aphelia: no worries :}
[11:15] <Lynoure> darkness_s: I'll try that way then. Maybe it was some of the recommended stuff that caused the dependency mess. Thanks
[11:15] <bazhang> bobiras: do you see the kmenu?
[11:15] <bobiras> sure
[11:15] <bobiras> but i'm stuck
[11:15] <erland> bazhang: so it's using the live gutsy cd (with gutsy already installed) VS. using gutsy installed via apt dist upgrade via net
[11:16] <bart1105> hello.. i'm a noob and i have this problem with dialogue box
[11:16] <bart1105> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabii/2062279094/
[11:16] <bart1105> that's the link to a snapshot
[11:17] <bazhang> bobiras: can you look for peripehreals (sp) in the kmenu?
[11:17] <bobiras> i searched on system setting
[11:17] <bobiras> but i still can't find from where i change the resolution
[11:17] <bazhang> erland: you upgraded to gutsy via net?
[11:17] <bazhang> bobiras: you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:18] <darkness_s> Lynoure: you are welcome
[11:18] <bobiras> kubuntu
[11:19] <loguser1> i cant add a theme in kdm theme manager. what can be wrong?
[11:19] <bazhang> bobiras: you can find the appearances and themes section? peripherals is below that
[11:19] <erland> bazhang: yes, I upgraded via the net
[11:19] <bazhang> erland: sounds like that old amarok upgrade is conflicting with the new gutsy one somewhere
[11:20] <darkness_s> bobiras: kmenu--System settings--screen
[11:20] <posingaspopular> bart1105: what specifically?
[11:20] <bazhang> thanks darkness_s kbfx menu here :}
[11:21] <bobiras> i'm on system settings menu but there is nothing screen
[11:21] <bart1105> posingaspoppular: i cant get to the other options...check the screenshot here http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabii/2062279094/
[11:21] <posingaspopular> imlooking right now
[11:21] <loguser1> suddenty two of ntfs partitiions have disappeard...
[11:21] <darkness_s> bobiras: monitor or somthing like that
[11:21] <darkness_s> bobiras: my kubuntu is not in english
[11:22] <posingaspopular> you mean the gray areas?
[11:22] <bazhang> monitor and display bobiras--can you look through the systems settings under peripherals for a moment?
[11:22] <bobiras> ok
[11:22] <bart1105> posingaspopular: yes
[11:23] <Aphelia> bazhang: what i'm actually looking for is opera and alien. i have "partner" and "free/nonfree" in sources.list
[11:23] <Aphelia> and can't still find opera and alien
[11:23] <posingaspopular> that's ctrl+f?
[11:23] <posingaspopular> i have a doc open right now and everything seems to be working on my end
[11:23] <bart1105> posingaspopular: i'm running gutsy gibbon on an asus a6rp laptop, screen resolution is 1024x768
[11:23] <bazhang> Aphelia: not sure if medibuntu.org have those--have you checked that site?
[11:23] <bobiras> it suppose to be like in the look&feel menu?
[11:24] <posingaspopular> the only thing I did was click inside the box and type test
[11:24] <bart1105> posingaspopular: yes, its a crtl+f with the advanced options opend
[11:24] <posingaspopular> text* and that worked for me
[11:24] <bazhang> bobiras: settings for keyboard, appearanc and themes, monitor etc there?
[11:24] <loguser1> i cant add a theme in kdm theme manager. what can be wrong?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> i cant seem to be able to recreat that one bart1105
[11:25] <Aphelia> i've just added medibunut to surces.list, did apt-get update and looked at adept again
[11:25] <bart1105> can you show me a screenshot of your open doc??
[11:26] <bobiras> Bazhang: i checked the various menu's there but i can't find from where i change the resolution
[11:27] <posingaspopular> sure one sec while I upload
[11:27] <bart1105> posingaspopular: can i get that dialogue box to get smaller??
[11:27] <darkness_s> bobiras: is your video card nvidia
[11:27] <bazhang> Aphelia: opera is in there (available via apt-cache search) though only alien I see is alien-arena
[11:27] <bobiras> bazhang: yes
[11:27] <posingaspopular> bart1105: this is the screenshot that I have: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1638/snapshot2xg5.jpg
[11:27] <bobiras> bazhang: the proble is that the desktop is not fitting with my screen
[11:28] <loguser1> suddenty two of ntfs partitiions have disappeard...
[11:28] <bazhang> bobiras: well it's in there--perhaps you could try to reset your configuration via the command line--you game?
[11:28] <darkness_s> bobiras: if it is nvidia, type   nvidia-settings  in a console
[11:29] <bobiras> i don't game
[11:29] <Aphelia> bazhang: i found some games with "alien", but i'm looking for a tool "alien" which converts rpm to deb
[11:29] <loguser1> i cant add a theme in kdm theme manager. what can be wrong?
[11:29] <bobiras> i'll try to do that to darkness
[11:29] <bart1105> posingaspopular: can u try it using openoffice calc?
[11:29] <bazhang> bobiras: are you game=are you willing to try
[11:30] <bazhang> Aphelia: not sure there sorry :}
[11:30] <flybye7> Hi all ..
[11:30] <bobiras> oh sorry
[11:30] <bobiras> i would like to try but i don't konw how :)
[11:30] <darkness_s> Aphelia: just sudo apt-get install alien
[11:31] <flybye7> can some kind soul tell me what a listing (fd0) /dev/fd0 is all about___
[11:31] <Aphelia> darkness_s: would that do, if alien isn't showing up in adept?
[11:32] <dah_> Hya all. Any one had any success with the C++ IDEs Anjuta or Eclipse or the GTK version?
[11:32] <bazhang> Aphelia: oops it is there listen to darkness_s
[11:32] <loguser1> can any one please help me.................?
[11:32] <s4xxon> hello, where does my system store the log file with what packages i installed/removed ?
[11:33] <darkness_s> Aphelia: it should work
[11:33] <flybye7> I gues /dev/fd0 is the address of some storage device ... is it a usb stick perhaps?
[11:33] <s4xxon> ok found
[11:33] <bazhang> s4xxon: dpkg -l will show you the list not sure where they are stored
[11:34] <Aphelia> darkness_s: it works, i think its because i don't have the source "main" in adept
[11:34] <ubuntu> hi, i'm installing kubuntu 7.10, but i dont want format the / filesystem, it is possible?
[11:34] <flybye7> ah well .. i will struggel along a bit further...
[11:34] <loguser1> kdm manager is not adding the theme i downloaded
[11:35] <posingaspopular> bart1105: is that the spreadsheet software?
[11:35] <Lynoure> darkness_s: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45772/
[11:35] <bazhang> ubuntu: you want to keep feisty root?
[11:35] <ubuntu> no
[11:35] <ubuntu> i have some data that i could not move
[11:36] <Aphelia> darkness_s: any suggestions, how i can add the main-repository in adept?
[11:36] <bazhang> ubuntu: in your home directory or in / ?
[11:36] <ubuntu> in /
[11:37] <ubuntu> i have in /dev/hda2 a dir called data
[11:37] <ubuntu> and i want to use /dev/hda2 as root
[11:37] <darkness_s> Aphelia: open up adept, then click on adept and manage repositories
[11:38] <bart1105> posingaspopular: its the spreadsheet
[11:38] <bazhang> ubuntu: not sure there--my installs always overwrite /
[11:38] <darkness_s> Lynoure: what if you run the command again? sometimes apt just dies with no reason at all
[11:39] <posingaspopular> bart1105: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8180/snapshot3kd5.jpg
[11:39] <pjeide> I spent a fair amount of time last night getting my PCI GeForce 6200 to work under Kubuntu.  After blacklisting my onboard drivers and using the Xorg wizard I was able to get ubuntu to boot with the 6200.
[11:39] <pjeide> I promptly used nvidia-settings to configure a dual screen setup.
[11:40] <pjeide> but now ubuntu thinks I have a 2704x1050 big desktop
[11:40] <ubuntu> why the installer want format the root filsystem?
[11:40] <Lynoure> darkness_s: tells me to do apt-get -f install, and that results in the same errors about things being in multiple packages
[11:40] <pjeide> when it is really a 1024x768 next to a 1680x1050 screen
[11:40] <bart1105> posingaspoplular: how come your dialogue screens are smaller than mine?
[11:40] <ubuntu> kubuntu doesnt' like reiserfs?
[11:40] <pjeide> Is there a good way to get a proper setting through so that windows don't launch in the void?
[11:41] <bazhang> ext3 is the default iirc
[11:41] <tekteen> !resolution | pjeide
[11:41] <ubotu> pjeide: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:41] <Aphelia> darkness_s: i enabled all repositories in the first tab before, but i wonder why alien is obviously there, but not showing up in adept
[11:41] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i have run out of ideas
[11:41] <pjeide> tekteen: thank you
[11:42] <tekteen> pjeide: np
[11:42] <darkness_s> Aphelia: i don't know, but you were able to install it with apt-get right?
[11:42] <Aphelia> Darkness_s: yes
[11:45] <darkness_s> Aphelia: weird, maybe try synaptic?
[11:45] <niko_> dear staff
[11:45] <niko_> my kubuntu 7.1 show me in connection manager
[11:45] <niko_> my HTC phone
[11:46] <niko_> wath it means???
[11:47] <darkness_s> that your house is haunted
[11:47] <niko_> it's wonderfull, but i wanna know if is now possible to sync my WM5 pda.....
[11:47] <Aphelia> darkness_s: i'l try kpackage-manager
[11:47] <bart1105> posingaspopular: what is your screen resolution?
[11:49] <niko_> and
[11:49] <niko_> one trouble
[11:49] <niko_> my conmizconfig-settings-manager seems broken
[11:50] <niko_> hey... waz wrong on my?
[11:52] <arash> Hi, when I log in to my moms account, it says I have to change the password. But I dont want to do that, I want it to be the same as the login name (like it was now, but it requires a change), how can I override this problem?
[11:56] <darkness_s> goodbye everybody
[11:57] <cox>  hello all, i need to flash my bios, how i've got the utility & the rom, how do I add it to a cd and make that cd bootable
[12:00] <stdin> Lynoure: ping
[12:02] <Lynoure> stdin: boing-boing-oing.
[12:02] <tekteen> arash: u still here?
[12:05] <posingaspopular> bart1105: 1027 * 768
[12:06]  * tekteen sees 343 ghosts in the room
[12:06] <tekteen> this place is dead
[12:06] <bazhang> heh
[12:07] <tekteen> and I am very bored
[12:07] <Lynoure> tekteen: it's a support channel, not a chatroom
[12:07] <tekteen> ok
[12:07] <Lynoure> tekteen: try on #kubuntu-offtopic if you just want a chat about something fun :)
[12:07] <tekteen> ok
[12:07] <tekteen> sorry (very bored)
[12:08] <Aphelia> darkness_s: is it possible, that there is no opera for amd64?
[12:09] <stdin> Lynoure: looks like you didn't remove all old kde4 beta packages before installing the RC1
[12:09] <Lynoure> stdin: I did...
[12:10] <stdin> can't have, you had kde4base
[12:10] <stdin> "kde4base-data"
[12:10] <stdin> which is an old package
[12:11] <posingaspopular> bart1105: sorry mate, bed time
[12:11] <Lynoure> stdin: oh, I did remove kdelibs5 and thought that would pretty much take everything with it. How can I be sure all is gone?
[12:11] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | Lynoure, by running this command
[12:11] <ubotu> Lynoure, by running this command: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[12:12] <stdin> Lynoure: removing kdelibs5 *should* remove all the old package, but for some it doesn't...
[12:12] <arash> Why does the password system have to be so extremely annoyingly tough?, I want my family to have a simple password so they can login with a password that is their own login name. But it requires a change of password that can't be whatever you want. Can I override the password system and pick a easy password?
[12:12] <stdin> Lynoure: if you get errors about dependencies, just add the packages causing error on to the end of the command
[12:12] <posingaspopular> arash: to change password, type 'passwd' in a terminal/konsole
[12:12] <Lynoure> stdin: thanks.
[12:13] <posingaspopular> im not sure about specific users/logins though
[12:13] <posingaspopular> i only have the one on my computer
[12:13] <posingaspopular> 6am <--- bed
[12:13] <stdin> "sudo passwd <username>" for other users
[12:13] <tekteen> arash: if u don't want to change the pass. open up the system settings program then go into the user section
[12:14] <tekteen> arash: then click the user and click on the "password & security" tab
[12:15] <arash> tekteen:  I thought so too, it says that the password will never needed to be changed, but it has too anyway, probably a bug
[12:15] <tekteen> I will look for other ways (the non gui way) to get rid of it
[12:16] <arash> tekteen: i try to do what stdin said
[12:16] <tekteen> ok
[12:17] <arash> ok, I try to login to her account now...
[12:20] <arash> yay worked, thanks, though the bug is very annoying, somehow the GUI isn't doing anything
[12:21] <tekteen> cool
[12:24] <loguser1> my storage partitions just disappear... some times 2 ntfs drives. some times all.... why. iam using dolphin , k 7.10 ?
[12:31] <loguser1> heloooo..
[12:36] <guh> how can i make a script on /etc/skel thats is executed automatically everytime a user is created? i want to add a quota to the users automatically.
[12:36] <loguser1> !pastbin
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <tekteen> check the adduser config
[12:37] <tekteen> I will look it up
[12:38] <tekteen> guh: found it
[12:38] <tekteen> guh: edit /etc/adduser.conf
[12:38] <guh> tekteen: what if i use ldap? :(
[12:38] <ubuntu> could l have the boot poartition on /dev/hda and the root partition on /dev/hdb or there are problems?
[12:40] <ubuntu> please answer to me :)
[12:40] <tekteen> :-S no clue
[12:40] <loguser1> http://pastebin.ca/796794
[12:40] <loguser1> my storage partitions just disappear... some times 2 ntfs drives. some times all.... why. iam using dolphin , k 7.10 ?
[12:41] <ubuntu> tekteen: with no clue you mean that i dont have problem?
[12:41] <tekteen> ?
[12:41] <tekteen> talking to guh
[12:41] <ubuntu> ah you are not talking to me
[12:41] <ubuntu> ok
[12:41] <tekteen> no problem though
[12:41] <ubuntu> ok, thanks
[12:42] <tekteen> sorry, did not look at your prob. (looking at guh's)
[12:42] <guh> i want to creat a quota to users added on samba, is there any way?
[12:43] <tekteen> samba might have a quota control
[12:43] <dengpeng> could anyone please tell me, which file determines the behavior of windows? only kwinrc?
[12:43] <tekteen> dengpeng: do u use kwin?
[12:44] <dengpeng> tekteen: i have some problem with my kubuntu
[12:44] <tekteen> dengpeng: what prob.
[12:44] <dengpeng> when scroll the mouse wheel on titlebar, it doesn't do what I want it to do
[12:44] <tekteen> ok
[12:44] <dengpeng> even I set it to be "shade/unshade"
[12:45] <tekteen> I know nothing about that
[12:45] <tekteen> sorry
[12:45] <dengpeng> it always switches between windows
[12:45] <pag> dengpeng, which decoration are you using? (iirc ie. Baghira ignored that settings totally..)
[12:45] <dengpeng> tekteen: no prob.
[12:45] <tekteen> what do u want it to do?
[12:46] <dengpeng> which decoration? I'm not sure, but I just start using kde no long, I didn't installed any I think
[12:46] <SatManUK> can i install kubunutu from the live cd without doing the internet check because i need to edit the server file as its not locating the server name via the dns server - i need to put in the ip address
[12:46] <pag> dengpeng, kcontrol -> Desktop -> Window behaviour -> titlebar actions  should let you configure that
[12:46] <dengpeng> tekteen: I just want to shade/unshade anywindow when I scroll on the titlebar
[12:47] <dengpeng> pag: I set "shade/unshade" there, but no effect
[12:47] <tekteen> SatManUK: yes
[12:47] <dengpeng> I remeber it effects at the beginning, but later it started ignoring my settings
[12:48] <tekteen> SatManUK: you could put the server name and ip in the hosts file
[12:48] <stdin> SatManUK: it will just detect there's no connection to the servers and disable the repositories when you install, just remember to re-activate them after you get the network back
[12:48] <pag> dengpeng, hmm.. strange.. it *should* work...
[12:49] <SatManUK> its sticking for ages on the internet test - how long should it take?
[12:49] <loguser1>  i got it. it is showing all in /media. but when i click storage folders. it only shows the ext3 and fat files. and some times shows nothiing why. is that
[12:49] <dengpeng> pag: and also when scrolling on an inactive window, that window gains focus, I don't know if  it's normal
[12:49] <loguser1> what are the drivers for ntfs ?
[12:49] <tekteen> SatManUK: It has to wait to timeout each connection
[12:50] <tekteen> SatManUK: a LONG time
[12:51] <SatManUK> i have a plan - reboot - take the network out for now
[12:51] <SatManUK> do the install
[12:51] <tekteen> just unplug the network
[12:51] <SatManUK> then configure it after..
[12:51] <SatManUK> yes
[12:51] <SatManUK> thats what im doing..!!
[12:51] <SatManUK> bye for now :P
[12:51] <tekteen> bye
[12:52] <lovre> is kde 4.0 coming out on 11.12?
[12:52] <Tm_T> who knows
[12:54] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: That's the plan, but we'll have to wait and see.
[12:56] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: ok, thank you
[13:04] <virnik> hi there, i got problem with uninstalling package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[13:04] <stdin> what's the problem?
[13:05] <virnik> i got here one crap, which demaged that package
[13:05] <virnik> package cant be installed or uninstalled
[13:05] <virnik> it freezes on "configuring package"
[13:05] <virnik> i tryed both dpkg and apt
[13:05] <virnik> it just freezes, but system goes normal
[13:05] <virnik> it can be canceled by ctrl+c
[13:06] <virnik> uninstall or install itself does not continue
[13:06] <stdin> how long have you let it run for?
[13:07] <virnik> ten minutes, and max 20 minutes yesterday
[13:07] <virnik> computer is slow and old...it's my friend's computer
[13:07] <virnik> gotta only 256MB RAM, but it shall work
[13:07] <virnik> load is really low, 0.00
[13:07] <virnik> so...process runs, but takes no cpu power
[13:08] <moroboshi> hi
[13:08] <tekteen> hi
[13:09] <stdin> virnik: well I guess you could try just removing "/var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic.prerm" then doing the uninstall.
[13:09] <stdin> virnik: that's not exactly recommended but it may work
[13:09] <moroboshi> is there an ipod channel?
[13:10] <virnik> stdin: trying right a way, thx
[13:10] <stdin> moroboshi: try ##ipod
[13:10] <moroboshi> ##ipod
[13:14] <FlyBye> Hi all...
[13:14] <newguyss> hi, how do I enable someone to reach my machine using FTP?
[13:14] <FlyBye> can somebody tell me what grub fault #22 means exactly...
[13:14] <virnik> stdin: thx
[13:14] <virnik> stdin: it looks like it works
[13:14] <FlyBye> get it when trying to boot...
[13:15] <stdin> virnik: heh, good. now go fix your system :p
[13:15] <virnik> except warning that list of packages about this modules is missing, but it is nothing critical
[13:15] <virnik> stdin: it is not mine
[13:15] <virnik> it is my friends
[13:15] <tekteen> do u have an ftp server set up
[13:15] <newguyss> no
[13:15] <virnik> but she gotta problem with low memory, and with graphic card...
[13:15] <newguyss> how to set it up
[13:15] <tekteen> !ftpd | newguyss
[13:15] <ubotu> newguyss: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP