[16:34] <cuddylier> TJ- The disk speeds are fine for what I'm doing on that 96gb RAM box but if I added 32gb more RAM and added the same amount more of clients, would it kill the Hard Drives?
[16:34] <diecastarts> and be able to enable them again when done playing?
[16:34] <amblonera> Pici: here's the dig output http://pastie.org/8742536 which seems unusual
[16:35] <TJ-> cuddylier: what's the I/O wait time on average?
[16:35] <cuddylier> TJ- How do I find that out?
[16:36] <TJ-> cuddylier: iotop, or even 'top' itself show latency
[16:36] <amblonera> Pici: and traceroute gives this http://pastie.org/8742541#2
[16:36] <cuddylier> TJ- http://puu.sh/6ZLhB.png
[16:36] <TJ-> cuddylier: this is a good article: http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2011/02/10/understanding-disk-i-o-when-should-you-be-worried
[16:36] <Pici> amblonera: your dig output says that it is querying your own computer for dns.  Are you running a dns server? is it configured properly?
[16:37] <amblonera> no i am not running any kind of dns server as far as I can remember
[16:37] <amblonera> I am on 12.04
[16:37] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. I reinstalled my os and trying otset up apache root as /home/www rather than /var/www. What is a good way to do this ? is there like a user based config that I can edit ?
[16:40] <TJ-> Vivekananda: read up on mod_user
[16:40] <cuddylier> TJ- I have a 2x E5 - 2609v2 so 8 cores and wait time is spiking to 13% lol
[16:40] <TJ-> cuddylier: Yup, I/O bottleneck
[16:40] <cuddylier> I would have thought so..
[16:40] <cuddylier> It goes down to about 6% but then spikes to 13% every 5-10 seconds
[16:40] <TJ-> cuddylier: what kind of disks? what rotation speeds?
[16:41] <TJ-> cuddylier: for high random-write IOPs you need 10/15k drives to beat the seek latencies
[16:41] <dameansebastian-> halo guys
[16:42] <cuddylier> TJ- 2x WDC WD5003ABYX-0 in RAID 1
[16:42] <diecastarts> no takes on the hotkeys help?
[16:42] <cuddylier> TJ- Likely to be this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136697
[16:42] <ice9> where to set xrandr setting permanently?
[16:44] <cuddylier> TJ- Looks to be 7200 RPM
[16:44] <cuddylier> I assume that's far far too slow?
[16:44] <TJ-> cuddylier: yeah, so slow to seek
[16:44] <TJ-> cuddylier: OK for large sequential read/writes but no good for high random writes, especially
[16:45] <cuddylier> TJ- Yeah, my box is doing a ton of random writes
[16:45] <cuddylier> And needs to
[16:45] <cuddylier> I guess a SSD cache would increase this greatly
[16:47] <TJ-> cuddylier: Indeed
[16:47] <cuddylier> TJ- Are hybrid drives any good at an alternative or should I stay away from them?
[16:47] <TJ-> cuddylier: Are the writes to the same small number of files? if so, caching them in RAM would work too
[16:47] <DrBrownbear> I have multiple files I cat into one file. Eg: A.001 A.002 gets joined by cat A.* > A.ext. Is there anyway I can do that for multiple things easily? Like A.001 A.002 > A and B.001 B.002 > B instead of having to run the command multiple times?
[16:47] <cuddylier> TJ- Yes, usually the same files but sometimes can be different ones. In general it's all small files.
[16:48] <TJ-> cuddylier: Not for server-class stuff you're doing... they're great for laptops of course. Generally hybrids have slow rotational speeds too.
[16:48] <cuddylier> Tj- How much RAM would be used up by caching and would it be written to the Hard Drives often enough to not lose a lot if the box crashes?
[16:48] <TJ-> cuddylier: If the actual size of the files being written to is small then a ramdisk overlay (instead of a cache) might be another clever solution.
[16:49] <TJ-> cuddylier: that's always the trade-off. Assuming you've got UPS then RAM disk/cache should be OK
[16:49] <TJ-> cuddylier: That assumes the rest of the system is stable of course
[16:49] <cuddylier> Yes..
[16:49] <cuddylier> hmm
[16:50] <cuddylier> Would SSD cache then not be the best option if it's lots of small files?
[16:50] <cuddylier> As this will be long term so I have to make the right decision now.
[16:50] <TJ-> cuddylier: E.g. if the files only require 2GB, then a 3GB ramdisk overlay or cache would be quite sufficient
[16:51] <TJ-> cuddylier: There'll be a *lot* of flash writes going on of course, so you'd want good-quality SLC enterprise standard devices
[16:52] <cuddylier> TJ- If the RAM disk is too small will it just keep the rest of the stuff on the disk then?
[16:52] <cuddylier> And does the RAM Disk decide what to put in RAM sorta like SSD cache?
[16:55] <Vivekananda> I did two edits as suggested on this page -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP . ie I changed the /var/www in the apache.conf and also changed  /var/www instead of copying and changing to /home/username/www/  but am still getting permission denied !
[16:56] <xubuntu798> Is here someone who speaks dutch and can help me for a second?
[16:56] <tmmunq> !nd
[16:56] <beandog> ugh, how do you get the version of a package installed
[16:57] <trijntje_> beandog: check the software center
[16:57] <beandog> -_-
[16:57] <beandog> sorry, using dpkg I meant
[16:57] <beandog> :)
[16:57] <TJ-> cuddylier: No, it's a bit more complicated, in fact, I'm not sure there is anything entirely suitable in mainline kernel currently
[16:57] <beandog> cannot figure it out
[16:57] <tmmunq> ubottu doesnt know about netherlands or im using the wrong code..
[16:57] <trijntje_> dpkg -l packagename
[16:57] <cuddylier> Ah :(
[16:57] <trijntje_> !nl
[16:57] <beandog> trijntje_: ah, many thanks :D
[16:58] <tmmunq> thanks
[16:58] <djangonoob> hi, can you pls help me fix my ubuntu system. I have problems uninstalling (reinstalling) nginx(-full) E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:59] <djangonoob> I just see something in console in a vurtuel console (ctrl+alt+f1)
[16:59] <raub> djangonoob: elaborate
[17:00] <djangonoob> raub: do you need more infos?
[17:01] <jhutchins> djangonoob: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:01] <beandog> crap.  now I forgot what package I was looking up the version for.
[17:02] <raub> jhutchins: I was thinking maybe the apt log file from the time he wanted to update package onwards might tell a few things
[17:02] <ibDoug> New here
[17:02] <ibDoug> Facebook and Gtalk not working
[17:03] <ibDoug> Any ideas?
[17:03] <JozhaTheManager> hey! i need a help with caching webistes. i'd like to install varnish but i have php id generator for analytics on my page. it possible to run only that piece of code in php, but other stuff should be cached?
[17:03] <FiremanEd> !details | ibDoug
[17:03] <djangonoob> I was trying to uninstall nginx nginx-full nginx-common after a restart the system is not starting as usual and I see an error (brokencount > 0) and there is something wrong with dependencies
[17:03] <djangonoob> and if I start a console I dont see anything inside
[17:04] <raub> djangonoob: what do you mean by "and if I start a console I dont see anything inside"
[17:04] <unbelivable> I feel like I may have been rooted. Im seeing 3 (outgoing?) connections on my system. 1 to torproxy07.teamcymru.net, one to static.<IP_ADDRESS>.clients.your-server.de, and another to assk2.torservers.net. I DO NOT USE TOR
[17:04] <djangonoob> I dont see a prompt or some input
[17:04] <unbelivable> is there a way to see what programs are making these connections?
[17:04] <djangonoob> just a black window
[17:04] <jhutchins> unbelivable: netstat -a
[17:05] <raub> djangonoob: then you have two distinct issues
[17:05] <ibDoug> I have a problem with Empathy messaging on 12.04 both facebook and gtalk will not conect
[17:05] <raub> ssh into machine then
[17:05] <raub> unbelivable: you could unpluck machine from network while you take a quick look-see
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> ibDoug: can other clients connect ok?
[17:05] <wheatthin> unbelivable, do you have a webserver or something that would be open to rooting?
[17:05] <unbelivable> all I get is -   tcp        0      0 my-box:43713        torproxy07.teamcy:https ESTABLISHED
[17:06] <Vivekananda> can anyone comment on my permissions denied ?
[17:06] <unbelivable> no, no open webservers. i do local testing with node, but nothing should be external
[17:06] <Vivekananda> I did two edits as suggested on this page -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP . ie I changed the /var/www in the apache.conf and also changed  /var/www instead of copying and changing to /home/username/www/  but am still getting permission denied !
[17:06] <raub> unbelivable: so, find who is using that local port
[17:06] <unbelivable> you mean 43713?
[17:06] <wheatthin> unbelivable, raise your ufw
[17:06] <unbelivable> ufw?
[17:07] <raub> unbelivable: yep
[17:07] <unbelivable> call me nieve, but this is exactly what Ive been trying to do and can't figure it out
[17:07] <wheatthin> Vivekananda, you must add it to the www-data grup
[17:07] <wheatthin> group*
[17:07] <unbelivable> i thought it was lsof
[17:07] <unbelivable> but that doesen't do anything
[17:07] <Vivekananda> okay
[17:08] <wheatthin> install gufw if it's a desktop
[17:08] <wheatthin> much easier
[17:08] <TJ-> unbelivable: "sudo netstat -npta" will report the processes owning each socket
[17:08] <unbelivable> awesome, thanks tj
[17:09] <raub> unbelivable: lsof -i :port should have worked
[17:10] <unbelivable> they all are being in use by 1725/tor. which woulden't be surprising. if i ran TOR on this system
[17:10] <unbelivable> except this system never connects to onions
[17:11] <unbelivable> tors never been (knowingly) installed. etc etc.
[17:11] <unbelivable> and if its running, its running completely invisibily and on boot
[17:11] <TJ-> unbelivable: To block all outgoing connections at the firewall you can do something like "sudo iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -i ethX -p tcp -m tcp --sport 22 -j ACCEPT" (that'll allow your SSH connections to continue), then "sudo iptables --policy OUTPUT REJECT" which would prevent *all* outgoing connections unless an ACCEPT rule is in the OUPUT table.
[17:11] <TJ-> unbelivable: "ps -efly | grep 1725"
[17:11] <Touhou11> unbelivable: You need to nuke the computer from space
[17:12] <Mathias> any good guides for signing kernel modules? (secure boot)
[17:12] <macintosh_osx> hello
[17:12] <TJ-> unbelivable: or else "ls -al /proc/1725/exe"
[17:13] <unbelivable> not sure what that commands supported to do
[17:13] <unbelivable> S mrgarfunkle    11774  4145  0  80   0   948  3411 pipe_w 11:12 pts/3    00:00:00 grep --color=auto 1725
[17:13] <TJ-> unbelivable: identify the path to the tor exectuable, if it is hidden
[17:13] <Touhou11> macintosh_osx: Hello '/_'
[17:13] <TJ-> ubottu: " 1725/tor" tells us process ID 1725, exectuable name "tor"
[17:14] <TJ-> unbelivable: : " 1725/tor" tells us process ID 1725, exectuable name "tor"
[17:14] <unbelivable> yea, I assumed that was the PID
[17:14] <unbelivable> your second command does nothing (running ubuntu)
[17:14] <unbelivable> simply says no such file or directory
[17:14] <TJ-> unbelivable: if it is not showing up from a 'ps' list then it looks like a root-kit exploit... check again with netstat in case it is respawning with different PIDs
[17:14] <macintosh_osx> Touhou11, nice mac face :)
[17:15] <vicsar> .
[17:15] <TJ-> unbelivable: That's when  "ls -al /proc/$PID/exe" can help
[17:15] <unbelivable> all the outgoing connections (using conky) disappeared randomly
[17:15] <unbelivable> i do not believe i did anything to trigger them
[17:16] <unbelivable> all i see is the connection to webchat.freenode.net now
[17:16] <unbelivable> this is really scaring me
[17:16] <TJ-> unbelivable: Or you could try "sudo grep tor /proc/{1..9}*/exe"
[17:16] <unbelivable> s there a way for me to find it now that the connections are no longer active according to conky?
[17:17] <TJ-> unbelivable: not by those means, no
[17:17] <unbelivable> does anyone have any suggestions? i really cannot have boxes getting compromised
[17:17] <kyle__> unbelivable: You're not being very beleivable.
[17:17] <TJ-> unbelivable: see if it is a standard package installed with "dpkg-query -S tor" ... search for a binary with "which tor" or "locate tor"
[17:18] <unbelivable> which tor did nothing. locate tor gave a bunch of paths seemingly unrelated.
[17:18] <vak> do the sysctl variables net.ipv4.tcp_* affect the UDP?
[17:19] <TJ-> vak: The clue is in the "tcp"
[17:20] <vak> TJ-: i can read, but on a blog it was mentioned that UDP is affected as well -- i do doubt that
[17:20] <unbelivable> the commonality here was that all the connections DID report their process name as tor so
[17:20] <unbelivable> is there a way for me to block it like THAT at the iptables level?
[17:20] <unbelivable> (obviously given the PID will probably change)
[17:20] <kyle__> vak: you may have more luck in a kernel-level channel, or on serverfault.
[17:20] <Yash> Hi..can anyone here help me with X server and .Xauthority?
[17:21] <sammy> unbelivable: Id worry about removing the box's access to the internet completely if youre worried its compromised.
[17:21] <vak> kyle__: i see, thanks
[17:22] <TJ-> vak: "man 7 udp"
[17:22] <Mathias> hmm, apparently if ubuntu is installed with uefi, if you disable it. ubuntu won't boot
[17:22] <unbelivable> yea, I think im going to completely re-install. however I want to push some of my work to git first
[17:22] <Yash> Hi..can anyone here help me with X server and .Xauthority?
[17:22] <unbelivable> ala, losing 3-4 days programming work is hardly "fun"
[17:22] <sammy> unbelivable: if you have lsof you can use it to see what file handles are open, identifying where any open executables are running
[17:23] <unbelivable> yea, it showed it was "tor", but which tor giving no response i think shows its not a legitimate install (which I presumed), but yet it identifies itself AS tor which is weird
[17:23] <unbelivable> was hoping i could block it based on that commonality
[17:23] <sammy> if you're finding 'tor' named processes in other things like top or ps, then you probably haven't been compromised. most rootkits install fake versions of process listers and such that hide what the hacker is doing.
[17:23] <unbelivable> it wasn't in top.
[17:24] <unbelivable> it was from conky and outgoing connections
[17:24] <sammy> unbelivable: sorry I came in half way :P ahh. try `sudo netstat -ntp`
[17:25] <sammy> that should give you numerical processes with open TCP ports, which you should be able to use with lsof to see what files those processes have open
[17:25] <m1dnight_> hey guys
[17:25] <unbelivable> yea, others helped me get it past that. the connections stopped arbitrarally a bit ago (no provocation)
[17:25] <unbelivable> thank you everyone so so so much for helping me with this, its freaking me out
[17:25] <m1dnight_> I have owncloud client running, can I simply install a newer version over it? OR do I uninstall? (havent dont that before)
[17:25] <sammy> but you're worried about them stopping and want to use iptables to banish a particular app from using the net?
[17:26] <sammy> s/stopping/starting again/
[17:26] <unbelivable> i want to stop it, so that I feel safe pushing my work to bitbucket
[17:26] <unbelivable> and then ill do a fresh install
[17:26] <unbelivable> none of the connections appear to be happening at the moment though
[17:26] <unbelivable> but they were just a few minutes ago
[17:26] <sammy> I'd honestly just assume its compromised, push your work, change your password
[17:26] <unbelivable> yea, im assuming I am
[17:27] <sammy> you could do any number of things but its possible the apps that actually tell you what is running/using the net/etc are compromised
[17:27] <sammy> so those things wont be helpful unless you do a lot of them
[17:28] <djangonoob> after some problems with uninstalling nginx-full (i think I fixed this issue) after a system restart I saw no prompt and no input in a terminal (only a black window) and I had some other "color" issues.  After checking system theme I saw that nothing was selected.  I clicked at the list and high contrast was automatically selected because there is no other. Now I see input in terminal but I dont like high contrast
[17:28] <djangonoob> shouldnt there be by default some other theme than high contrast?
[17:29] <unbelivable> im pretty sure conky is not compromised, its my own script
[17:29] <tumlee> Is anybody else having issues trying to install libsdl2-dev through apt-get?
[17:29] <tumlee> It's trying to upgrade glib2 for some reason, and it's failing
[17:29] <Yash__> Can anyone help me with X server and .Xauthority?
[17:30] <Yash__> X forwarding?
[17:30] <Yash__> Xming?
[17:30] <unbelivable> thank you everyone for your help again! I wish I could return the favor unfortunately I think everyone here knows more then I
[17:31] <cpd> Back again
[17:32] <kindjal> Does anyone know if Ubuntu still uses Soyuz for automated package building?
[17:32] <kindjal> And then, if there is documentation for setting up one's own Soyuz based build farm?
[17:32] <Yash__> Anyone used Xming?
[17:32] <cpd> I've been attempting to install Ubuntu to my ACER V5 laptop that currently has nothing on it (no OS). I've been having trouble booting frmo the USB as it consistenyl gave a Kernel panic error and something about not be able to mount to the fs. Having managed to get an Ubuntu screen up and hit SHIFT I now can see a list of options: "Live", "Install", and some other stuff. When I try to install
[17:32] <cpd> it just restarts the laptop and seems to try and boot frmo the harddisk which has nothign onit.
[17:33] <cpd> Do I need to somehow create a partition for ubuntu or will it do it itself from the USB before installing?
[17:33] <TJ-> cpd: progress!
[17:34] <TJ-> cpd: Now you can get to the GRUB boot menu, you can edit the kernel's boot command list so we can get some useful information
[17:34] <TJ-> cpd: Which version of ubuntu?
[17:35] <cpd> Erm
[17:35] <cpd> ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[17:35] <TJ-> cpd: I can run the same version here in a virtual machine, and guide you better
[17:36] <TJ-> cpd: OK, give me a few minutes to grab a drink and get it ready
[17:36] <cpd> t6hank you
[17:36] <cuddylier> Would a Hardware RAID card realistically give any better read/write speeds compared to software RAID?
[17:36] <cuddylier> If using RAID 1
[17:38] <Arceye> do I need to install samba file server to share files from xubuntu so my windows box can access them ?
[17:40] <TJ-> cuddylier: No, RAID1 won't accelerate writes
[17:40] <Yash__> can anyone please help me with X forwarding using Xming
[17:40] <Yash__> ?
[17:40] <stepjohn> cuddylier: There isn't that much in it, in regards to speed.
[17:41] <cuddylier> I thought so, thank you.
[17:41] <stepjohn> cuddylier: But that depends of cpu speed and ram etc/
[17:41] <Okitain> Arceye: yes, that's the function Samba does.
[17:42] <stepjohn> cuddylier: I have had really really good experience with zfs on linux
[17:42] <stepjohn> cuddylier: But that's all for homeserver stuff.
[17:42] <Arceye> Okitain, thanks, I wanted to confirm it was what I needed before I went ahead and tried
[17:42] <Okitain> Yash__: what do you require?
[17:42] <cuddylier> stepjohn What is zfs exactly? I see the wikipedia article
[17:43] <Yash__> I am unable to confugure x forwarding using xauthority
[17:43] <stepjohn> cuddylier: zfs is a software based raid / filesystem
[17:43] <cpd> I'm, ready when you are TJ-
[17:43] <Okitain> cuddylier: it's a filesystem made for everything-but-linux.
[17:43] <Yash__> Okitain, I am unable do x forwarding using Xming
[17:43] <stepjohn> Okitain: you can run it on linux,
[17:43] <Yash__> Okitain: basically...i got no gui..I am trying to use SPE python editor
[17:44] <stepjohn> Okitain: using zfs fuse or the kernel module
[17:44] <ajoul> HELLLLLLOOOOOOOOOO
[17:44] <ajoul> I AM TRYING TO EDIT REDSHIFT CONFIG FILES BUT I DONT KNOW WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED IN UBUNTU
[17:45] <cuddylier> Okay, back to my bcache adventure
[17:45] <Yash__> Okitain: any idea?
[17:45] <Okitain> stepjohn: yeah, but they designed it for... BSD, I believe?
[17:46] <stepjohn> Okitain: It was design for Solaris, the licence isn't gpl compatible so they can't ship it with the kernel.
[17:46] <Okitain> Yash__: so you are trying to get something to run on Windows from a headless server?
[17:47] <Yash__> Okitain:yes
[17:47] <Yash__> Okitain: it used to work earlier...but i think i messed up the .Xauthority file a bit
[17:47] <Okitain> Huh, I just used SSH forwarding through and through.
[17:47] <ajoul> I AM TRYING TO EDIT REDSHIFT CONFIG FILES BUT I DONT KNOW WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED IN UBUNTU
[17:48] <Okitain> ajoul: be patient, please.
[17:48] <Yash__> Okitain: when when i say echo $DISPLAY on my headless server..it says servername:11.0 ...earlier it used to say localhost:11.0
[17:48] <Pici> ajoul: please stop using caps.
[17:48] <Rex_In_Effect> will someone plz same my name
[17:48] <ajoul> OKITAIN OK SORRY DIDN'T KNOW PEOPLE LOOK AT SO PAST LOGS
[17:48] <ajoul> pici sorry my caps key was stuck
[17:49] <Rex_In_Effect> will someone plz same my name
[17:49] <work_> Can someone show me how to install tmux 1.8 on ubuntu? I found this, but don't know how to proceed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux
[17:49]  * ajoul attempts to remain patient
[17:49] <Pici> ajoul: It says where to put the configuration file on redshift's website (scroll down): http://jonls.dk/redshift/
[17:50] <ajoul> Pici so it doesn't create it by default?
[17:50] <cpd> TJ-: Still around?
[17:50] <Pici> ajoul: thats what it says.
[17:50] <ajoul> Nonsense
[17:51] <streulma> Hello, sometimes I get the error Keyboard Language Indicator crashed in Ubuntu 13.10. Are there more people that get it ?
[17:51] <Okitain> ajoul: not .redshift or .config/redshift?
[17:52] <Yash__> Okitain: any idea?
[17:52] <ajoul> Okitain it doesn't exist I tried searching in home config folder in root config folder
[17:52] <ajoul> everywhere
[17:52] <work_> Can anyone show me how to install this package? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux
[17:52] <OerHeks> ajoul, that url from Pici is clear where the .conf is, the '. ' means hidden
[17:52] <LucasP> #cyborn
[17:52] <OerHeks> ajoul it is in jour /home/
[17:53] <Yash__> any help with setting Display variable?
[17:53] <ajoul> OerkHeks I explained that the redshift config does not exist I didn't say I can't find the config folder
[17:53] <ajoul> read more carefully next time
[17:54] <macintosh_osx> from my personal experience with  linux, it it does not prevent you from use the computer, then ignore it because, it is likely some kind of bug that will be overlooked in favor of larger bugs :)
[17:54] <wheatthin> be nice jeez
[17:54] <Yash__> can anyone help me set the Display variable with X forwarding?
[17:55] <wheatthin> Yash__, I believe that's a pre-defined commented setting in your ssh.conf file
[17:56] <streulma> indicator-keyboard-service crashed it is, why ?
[17:56] <Yash__> wheatthin: yes..i did uncomment it
[17:57] <wheatthin> restart the service?
[17:57] <Yash__> wheatthin: the thing is..i am using Xming to do x forwarding...i am trying to get a display on windows for my headless server
[17:57] <TJ-> cpd: I shan't be able to help you right now - just had a UPS explode in one of the cabinets!
[17:57] <streulma> macintosh_osx: are you using Ubuntu on your Mac ? :)
[17:58] <wheatthin> Yash__, so why not ssh/vnc?
[17:58] <Yash__> wheatthin: will i be able to open SPE python editor with vnc? its like gedit
[17:59] <wheatthin> yup, it'll run a complete virtual desktop
[17:59] <wheatthin> and be encrypted :) over ssh
[17:59] <Vivekananda> I added my user ( admin user) to www-data group and something went horribly wrong ( not sure this is the cause ). Now my 'Home' is seen on my home screen . Normaly I should be seeing my "Desktop" on my home screen
[18:00] <Yash__> wheatthin: I have never used vnc..can you help me setup vnc?
[18:00] <wheatthin> I can direct you to documentation :)
[18:00] <wheatthin> Yash__, just    sudo apt-get install vnc4server
[18:01] <wheatthin> Yash__, then   vncserver :0
[18:01] <wheatthin> and select your password
[18:01] <Vivekananda> do I have to reinstall ubuntu ?
[18:01] <Yash__> ok
[18:01] <Yash__> wheatthin: doing it..one min
[18:02] <zeeshan> anyone here use xrdp before?
[18:02] <cpd> Aw that sucks
[18:02] <zeeshan> so in windows i connect to the ubuntu server
[18:02] <cpd> Is there any way you can guide me in debugging stuff?
[18:02] <kyle__> zeeshan: Yes.  Worked pretty well.  Why?
[18:02] <zeeshan> then it says "login to xrdp" and gives me an option to choose different modules
[18:02] <Yash__> wheatthin: what do i do next
[18:02] <Yash__> ?
[18:02] <zeeshan> which module do i choose?
[18:02] <cpd> Every time I try to do Live Mode Install or anything else it says theres an "Uncompression error"
[18:03] <Vivekananda> On nautilus I dont see "Desktop" as one of the destinations one the left bar
[18:03] <zeeshan> if i try "sesman-Xvnc" and use my login and password, i get an error
[18:03] <Yash__> wheatthin:xauth:  /home/ericsson/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored xauth:  /home/ericsson/.Xauthority not writable, changes ignored  New 'a4:0 (ericsson)' desktop is a4:0
[18:03] <zeeshan> "connecting <IP_ADDRESS> 591, error - problem connecting"
[18:03] <zeeshan> 5910 i mean
[18:03] <kyle__> zeeshan: Have you run xrdp on the linux side yet?
[18:04] <Yash__> wheatthin:: what do i do next after selecting a password?
[18:04] <wheatthin> Yash__, hmm that's odd.. are you in Users group?
[18:04] <zeeshan> kyle__ no
[18:04] <zeeshan> i thought it was a service that was launched at boot?
[18:04] <wheatthin> then you get your ssh client.. what system are you using to connect from?
[18:04] <Yash__> wheatthin: sorry? do i need to be root?
[18:04] <zeeshan> windows 7 remote desktop client
[18:05] <JCM83> Hey uh, I'm trying to get cupsd to work, anyone feel like fighting it with me?
[18:05] <wheatthin> Yash__, Yeah you probably might launch it from root, but usually you don't have to
[18:06] <zeeshan> when i do service --status-all
[18:06] <zeeshan> [ ? ]  xrdp
[18:06] <zeeshan> i get that.
[18:06] <wheatthin> Yash__, your machine says it has a head tho, already opened
[18:06] <wheatthin> Yash__, what os are you connecting from?
[18:06] <Yash__> wheatthin: Ubuntu
[18:07] <Yash__> wheatthin: i tried from root..it says A VNC server is already running as :0
[18:07] <wheatthin> yash then open the software manager and install the sshvnc program
[18:07] <wheatthin> ahh so it's running then
[18:07] <wheatthin> sshvnc viewer
[18:08] <Yash__> wheattin: i cannot open software manager...there is no gui
[18:08] <wheatthin> no, on the client machine man
[18:08] <Joshun> hi
[18:08] <Joshun> anybody know why reverse printing is broken in 13.10?
[18:08] <JCM83> What's "reverse printing"?
[18:09] <Joshun> JCM83: printing so that you don't have to manually go through and put every single page in order
[18:09] <wheatthin> it should do that already
[18:09] <Joshun> wheatthin: it never has
[18:09] <OerHeks> Joshun, works fine here, backwards and double sided backwards
[18:10] <Joshun> OerHeks: weird, its a brother printer aswell with official linux support
[18:10] <c4iff> Got an interested question about a set up, Using Xubuntu 13.10 and everything works fine, so I know it works. However if I use the exact same version of Xubuntu with VirtualBox and create a USB filter for it on a Windows system it sees the Ipad but constantly tells me it cannot mount a locked device and to disable password protection ( which it doesn't have enabled)
[18:10] <Joshun> mirror printing works but what would be the use in that
[18:11] <wheatthin> Yash__, were you able to install it?
[18:11] <JCM83> I'm using Ubuntu's Printer's service, and it says it can't contact the printing service. I've gone into Terminal and run $sudo service cups start, cups comes online, but still can't connect to printing server.
[18:11] <Yash__> wheatthin? how can i install ? i have no gui
[18:11] <c4iff> I"m curious if just a limitation of Virtual box and Ipad's trust/don't trust confirmation
[18:11] <wheatthin> Yash__, dude, on your client machine I said
[18:12] <Yash__> wheattin: client is windows
[18:12] <wheatthin> server is headless, client is what you're working from
[18:12] <Joshun> I think it might just be fixed now
[18:12] <Joshun> I thought
[18:12] <wheatthin> Yash__, so you're using putty or something?
[18:12] <Yash__> wheatthin: from windows i am conencting a access server(centos) using putty and then i am conencting a rackserver(ubuntu) using putty again with x forwarding enabled
[18:13] <Joshun> anybody know a command to completely reset a cups printer settings?
[18:14] <JCM83> Joshun dude cups is what's bugging me. I tried sudo apt-get remove cups, then sudo apt-get install cups.
[18:14] <JCM83> Oh and sudo apt-get clean cups
[18:14] <Joshun> JCM83 - I suppose purging it may work
[18:14] <JCM83> yeah that should
[18:15] <JCM83> "purge" cleans config files I believe.
[18:15] <basketballllllll> how do i upgrade to 13.10 from 13.04 without a live disk
[18:15] <Vivekananda> I guess will wait a bit
[18:15] <Vivekananda> for my question
[18:16] <basketballllllll> bazhang: how do i upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 without a live disk\
[18:16] <JCM83> funny though even when I run cups using $sudo service cups start, and get "job is already running," if I then do $sudo service --status-all I get a [-] in front of the cups process.
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> !eolupgrade | basketballllllll
[18:17] <Medo> Hello :)
[18:17] <Yash__> wheatthin: ??
[18:17] <wheatthin> Yash__, so ssh tunnel to the your wanting to connect to on port 5900
[18:18] <Yash__> wheatthin: sorry..i didnt get that
[18:18] <basketballllllll> when i tried to burn iso to disk from the website for 13.10 i gort an n error
[18:19] <17WAA4D1L> Superman or Spiderman?
[18:19] <DJones> 17WAA4D1L: Er, no, this is UBuntu support
[18:19] <wheatthin> Yash__, http://crl.ucsd.edu/handbook/vnc/
[18:19] <zerowaitstate> basketballllllll: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[18:19] <sazawal> I am trying to install a package called sbagen on Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit. But I am getting a number of error and warning statements (please see http://pastebin.com/Xgn30svY ), can somebody help!!
[18:20] <17WAA4D1L> DJones you are definitely a batman guy
[18:20] <lalelilolu> hey guys can someone explain me please how to get vidalia to work
[18:20] <Joshun> Turns out that actually disabling reverse printing fixed it. Brother must have edited their drivers to print in reverse by default
[18:20] <zeeshan> do you need another program installed on top of xrdp to get it to connect to an existing session in ubuntu 10.04?
[18:22] <17WAA4D1L> How do you create an Operating System like Ubuntu?
[18:22] <lalelilolu> noone can help with vidalia
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | 17WAA4D1L try ##linux ... custom distros are offtopic here
[18:23] <Vivekananda> Something weird happened to my fresh ubuntu 12.04 install. I was trying to fix permissions denied for apache for /home/username/varun. in the process I included my user ( admin rights) to www-data and for some reason my homescreen now no longer shows /home/username/desktop but it is showing /home/username/    Can someone help me fix this ? Also my nautilus nav bar on left now does not show "Desktop" as a destination.  Ctrl+D is
[18:23] <Vivekananda> not working there too !
[18:24] <lalelilolu> please tor runs but i dont get vidalia runs correctly
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: what exactly did you run for """ in the process I included my user ( admin rights) to www-data """ ?
[18:25] <Joshun> Vivekananda does /home/<username>/Desktop give permission denied if you try to open it?
[18:25] <Vivekananda> Joshun: no
[18:25] <Joshun> Vivekananda is it simply missing from the nautilus sidebar?
[18:25] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: I installed system utils for ubuntu via apt get then on unity went to 'users and groups' via hud and in there looked for the group www-data and included my username in it
[18:26] <Vivekananda> Joshun: one sec
[18:26]  * reTyp hi all
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: can you pastebint the output of: groups                  and: cat /etc/passwd | grep $USER
[18:27] <reTyp> can someone enlight me here how can I boot from external drive without the boot option on bios ?
[18:27] <Joshun> Vivekananda my first thought would be to reset preferences  - remove .gconf, .gnome2 in home dir
[18:27] <Vivekananda> Joshun: http://imagebin.org/293985
[18:27] <Joshun> Vivekananda - warning desktop wallpaper, customisations etc. would be reset
[18:27] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: sure one sec
 been a while since I used the unity-based ubuntu, adding it to the bookmarks by dragging the Desktop folder to the side may work
[18:29] <Joshun> will have to go now, sorry
[18:29] <i3000> hi, how can i install firefox 26 again? today ive updated it and it made problems.
[18:29] <i3000> reinstall 26
[18:29] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/9056231
[18:29] <Vivekananda> np
[18:31] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: also why am I getting permissions denied even after I did what is recommended in install guide ie 1. changed /var/www in apache2.conf to /home/user/www/  and  2. changed the location is default.conf to /home/user/www too ?
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: everything looks ok there at least, altho you are not yet part of www-data ( might need a relog after adding the group ). One other thing to check is does the Desktop folder exist: ls -ld $HOME/Desktop          if not then try resetting gnome as Joshun suggested
[18:32] <Ose> what's the thing that pops up in firefox and asks me if I want to "install" reddit/facebook/tumblr/whatever and how do I (1) un"install" reddit and (2) remove the popups?
[18:32] <Arceye> I got a strange thing happening, top output suggests 12% CUP usage if I am reading it right , but task manager is showing 100% , which do I trust ?
[18:33] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: okay I am resetting
[18:34] <Vivekananda> also I removed username from www-data group
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: you shouldn't be changing you virtual hosts in apache2.conf... everything should be done in the sites-available folder
[18:34] <Vivekananda> can you tell me why I am getting permissions denied
[18:34] <i3000> how can i install firefox 26 ?
[18:34] <i3000> after update to 27
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: it depends on what exactly you changed. are you getitng permission denied when using the browser?
[18:35] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: I assumed I have to include OR change the <Directory> </> tags for the new place. This was also suggest ed
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> i3000: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:35] <Vivekananda> yes on browser
[18:35] <Appreciated> hey guys why is there no amd64 kernel? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-rc3-trusty/
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: you you need to give it permission to read the path with the Directory directive
[18:36] <i3000> ubuntu 12.10
[18:36] <i3000> since ff 27 i cannot connect to a certain IP address at work.
[18:37] <i3000> windows users have the same problem.
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> Appreciated: mainline kernels are unsupported. most likely the build failed
[18:37] <i3000> therefore id like to get back to FF 26
[18:37] <Appreciated> hm ok, was just curious
[18:37] <Appreciated> thanks
[18:38] <reTyp> can someone enlight me here how can I boot from external drive without the boot option on bios ?
[18:39] <IphoneIphoneBB> can i run ubuntu on vm
[18:39] <iceroot> reTyp: install grub on an internal hdd and from there boot from the external
[18:39] <iceroot> IphoneIphoneBB: yes
[18:39] <theuzez> how much area swap should I be allocating if I have six gigs of ram?
[18:39] <theuzez> swap area*
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> i3000: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_26.0+build2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb          you'd have to follow the dependency trail and ensure all related packages are also downgraded
[18:40] <lalelilolu> did noone using vidalia in its ubuntu
[18:40] <i3000> hitsujiTMO, thnk you
[18:40] <iceroot> i3000: you should not use FF26 because there are security issues
[18:41] <iceroot> !info firefox
[18:41] <i3000> ic
[18:41] <i3000> iceroot, id like to but i cannot connect to a IP
[18:41] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: so that means I have to change/add a new directory directive in the conf too isnt it ?
[18:41] <Vivekananda> but you said not to change it in the apache2.conf
[18:42] <Vivekananda> Also will a log cycle do the nautilus reset or do I have to restart ?
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: yes, you should be creating a virtualhost (or modifying the default.conf)
[18:42] <reTyp> iceroot: I'm not sure I did understand
[18:42] <someone235> Hey, I have a 24GB SSD, and 120GB HDD. What is the best way to install Xubuntu on it? How should I divide the partitions etc
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: relogging should be enough
[18:43] <streulma> someone235: I should set /home on the 120GB HDD
[18:43] <Vivekananda> but the directory directive exists in side /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and not insite sites-available !!
[18:43] <someone235> streulma, How I do this?
[18:44] <streulma> someone235 are you installing a new Ubuntu ?
[18:44] <JokesOnYou77> someone235: Maybe also set SWAP on the HDD to avoid unnecessary writes?  Though I have my swap on my SSD :P  Just make sure you set up trim to run as a cron and maybe add noatime nodirtime to your fstab
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: /var/www is the default virtual host setup in default.conf    if this isn't the case for you then i'd have to ask how you installed apache2
[18:45] <ki7rw> i sure am having a lot of trouble with ssh lately - after typing in exit in the terminal window i don't get dropped back to a local prompt and when i try to close the window with the X i get a message saying that the terminal is still in use - happens on all my machines - some running 13.10 but most running 12.04
[18:46] <ki7rw> not to mention that i have to force kmail to quit - and sometimes i get a DBUS error message when trying to restart the app
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> ki7rw: are you connection to the same ssh server from each of the machines?
[18:46]  * ki7rw has already tried a fresh install on 2 machines - same issues
[18:47] <DJones> ki7rw: I use "logout" to close the irc session rather than exit, does that do the same?
[18:47] <JokesOnYou77> ki7rw: I don't know about KMail and the dbus error, but when ssh hangs at logout (and I typically use logout instead of exit) for me it typically means a lag problem on the server side
[18:47] <reTyp> iceroot: I already have grub, just dont get the bootable windows working
[18:47] <ki7rw> DJones: logout does the same thing
[18:48] <ki7rw> hitsujiTMO: to any ssh server on any of the machines
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> ki7rw: the only common ground in that scenario then would be the net connection you are connecting over
[18:49]  * ki7rw wonders if anything works properly no matter what the electronic device is
[18:50] <TJ-> ki7rw: running "ssh -vvv ...", does that reveal anything when the connection ends? If it does, that indicates the problem is in the disconnect of the SSH session, if it doesn't show anything about the SSH protocol when you do "exit" that indicates the problem is on the remote side. Increase log-verbosity on a test server and investigate.
[18:50] <theuzez> hm
[18:50] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: yes it is the default value there . But from what I understood I have to change /var/www/  to /home/user/www at BOTH places ie inside apache2.conf and default  as said here --  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   STEP 4
[18:51] <lalelilolu> q
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: yes but that says nothing about editing apache2.conf            , btw what version of ubuntu are you using?
[18:52] <setxi> Hi some one can now how to fix Unpacking nvidia-opencl-dev:amd64 (5.0.35-7ubuntu1) ...dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-opencl-dev_5.0.35-7ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):?
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> setxi: apt-get clean            then try and run the install
[18:53] <ki7rw> TJ-: ssh -vvv gave me a usage message
[18:54] <TJ-> ki7rw:  well it would! You have to add your actual options after the -vvv verbosity flags!
[18:55] <silenz> when im using web browsing apps liike chrome on windows, when i click on the url bar, the bar highlights so i can enter a new url
[18:55] <setxi> "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libOpenCL.so", exist in  nvidia-libopencl1-331 331.38-0ubuntu3  :(
[18:55] <silenz> on ubuntu it seems like i  have to highlight the bar manually
[18:55] <Vivekananda> 12.04 hitsujiTMO
[18:55] <silenz> is there some way to fix that
[18:55] <ki7rw> hitsujiTMO: the server box that i'm using right now is attached to a gigabit port on the router while the mote box is wifi via wpa2 802.11n on 2GHz - link quality 70/70
[18:55] <sunil_> hi
[18:56] <setxi> Full error http://pastebin.com/RdSYtvqM
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> setxi: You're using a conflicting PPA
[18:59] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: there is no 'directory directive' inside the sites-available/000-default.conf
[18:59] <Vivekananda> ubt there is one inside the apache2.conf
[18:59] <Vivekananda> want me to paste ?
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: then add one in the default
[19:00] <i3000> Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.17) what to do?
[19:00] <Vivekananda> one sec lemme paste the one
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: are you using a PPA for apache? the default is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950420/
[19:01] <xteejx> Hi guys, I have Ubuntu server (on a server of course), and I have a website and domain setup for that site. How do I get emails to send/receive from the site email address if the domain provider hasn't got any facility like this?
[19:03] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: yes I used ppa . Also here https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/9056791  I changed the lines 164 - 69. should I just copy those lines and paste them to the other file and also change 164 back to /var/www ?
[19:03] <setxi> hitsujiTMO how to fix this? I dont add another ppa
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: then don't follow the guide on the ubuntu wiki. That's for a completely different version of apache with a completely different configuration approach
[19:04] <xteejx> anyone at all...
[19:04] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: I am not using the default ppa I used this one --  http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: you'd have to follow a guide for that specific ppa, or configure apache from scratch yourself
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: thats a completely different apache version
[19:06] <Vivekananda> owww shoot . I thought it would be newer so I used that ppa and then apt-get install apache2
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> setxi: you'd have to either purge the PPA or use the opencl provided by that PPA
[19:07]  * ki7rw would prefer a 5 GHz connection on his dual band stuff be it doesn't happen with his dual band router
[19:07] <basketballllllll> Whay is a more stable vwrsjon of linux
[19:07] <basketballllllll> Version
[19:08] <silenz> more stable then ubuntu?
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: the configuration options changed in apache 2.4. Because of this, even the default ubuntu apache in 13.10 has a completely different configuration methodology
[19:09] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: hmm so now I should follow a differentguide then ?
[19:09] <Vivekananda> perhaps this ?
[19:10] <Vivekananda> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19518907/virtual-host-on-ubuntu-13-10-and-apache-2-4-6
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> basketballllllll: this is ubuntu support. If your are looking for ubuntu support, please ask a clear and precise question.
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: I'm not sure too be honest. That PPA seems to have it's own configuration philosophy so you'd have to consult the apache2.4 config reference itself
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/
[19:13] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: where do I look for that ppa's config ideas ? Also will it matter that I have php 5.5 from that ppa ?
[19:13] <Vivekananda> if it will then I might as well delete all and use an official ppa but one that will allow me a newer apache and php
[19:13] <Vivekananda> 12.04 has php 5.3 still!
[19:14] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: simply put, of you're using such a ppa, then you really need to understand whats going on in the config itself. for that you should read the apache2 docs itself. maybe the guys in #httpd can help too, but for this kind of thing you are usually on your own
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: there's no official PPA for apache for ubuntu. if you want the latest support you'd have to install 13.10
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: or wait for 14.04 to be released
[19:16] <demian> oh fun
[19:16] <demian> Ubuntu spontaneous reboot during usage of Calc.. data gone :(
[19:16] <Vivekananda> so the current option I have to install php 5.5 o apache 2.4 is to install that ppa and configure myself. ? Is there another ppa that could work better for me ?
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: you shouldn't be using apache 2.5 ... thats an unstable dev version
[19:18] <streulma> is apache 2.2 already the best to use for now ?
[19:18] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: no apache 2.4  and PHP 5.5
[19:19] <streulma> I don't trust self managed ppa's by people, there must be a community behind that manage the PPA, for Apache or PHP, mysql >> like Dotdeb
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: ahh sorry, misread your statement.        to be honest, the ppa you're using is the best there is for apache/php. It's just you'd have to get more intimate in your knowledge of apache if you want to be using the latest
[19:19] <qwebirc137961> hey can someone please walk me through making a live disk from terminal using dd
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> basketballllll: you can't make a live disk using dd
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> basketballllll: what exactly is it that you want to do?
[19:20] <basketballllll> how can i do it from the terminal writing it to disk keeps failing
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> !details | basketballllll
[19:21] <basketballllll> i want to make a 13.10 live disk from terminal
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> basketballllll: are you using a cd, or a dvd?
[19:21] <basketballllll> i have downloaded the iso
[19:21] <basketballllll> and it is a dvd
[19:21] <basketballllll> 4.7 gb
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> basketballllll: sorry, are you using a dvd or usb?
[19:22] <basketballllll> dvd
[19:22] <gonyere> basketballllll - if =/home/-your-file-here.iso of=/dev/-location-ofyour-cd-drive-here
[19:22] <basketballllll> gtg
[19:22] <geirha> gonyere: no
[19:22] <kingfisher64> really enjoying my experience with ubuntu so far. One thing concerns me though. Every now and then I get a "low graphics mode" error message on boot up. I've googled up on it and lightdm is reported to have a bug which causes this. So far turning it on/off has resolved it - but it's concerning me.
[19:22] <tuxfalk_> Hi guys!
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> basketballllll: then you need to se wodim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[19:23] <gonyere> generally i prefer to use a gui tool but the above works for me when somethings broken on occasion
[19:23] <Medo> guys !! after boot with live 12.04 LTS usb i couldnt recover my encrypted home folder :\
[19:23] <kingfisher64> have others experience this? ^^^
[19:24] <gonyere> kingfisher64 - nope
[19:24] <gonyere> but I also haven't run 12.04 in a couple yrs
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: low graphics mode is typically gpu related. what graphics chipset do you have?
[19:25] <streulma> kingfisher64: insalled nvidia-331 from xorg-edgers ?
[19:25] <kingfisher64> it's this > http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[19:26] <streulma> kingfisher64: if it is from xorg-edgers, remove bumblebee
[19:26] <kingfisher64> i've altered drivers under "software & updates" to "using nvidia binary Xorg driver nvdia 319"
[19:26] <basketballllll> sorry no gtg
[19:26] <kingfisher64> streulma, hitsujiTMO ^^
[19:27] <kingfisher64> it's marked as tested
[19:27] <Xabster> do you know of a ppa with openjdk-8?
[19:27] <Xabster> i just can't find any
[19:27] <Medo> :\
[19:28] <streulma> is openjdk-8 out already ?
[19:28] <kingfisher64> the graphics card is 8600m gt hitsujiTMO
[19:28] <streulma> is someone235 already back ?
[19:28] <Xabster> streulma: early access
[19:28] <hitsujiTMO> Xabster: prob because oipenjdk 8 doesn't exist yet
[19:28] <Xabster> heh
[19:28] <Xabster> hitsujiTMO: no, that is not the reason
[19:29] <streulma> kingfisher64: you should revert to nvidia-304
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> Xabster: really, because according to the openjdk website it doesn't exist.
[19:29] <Xabster> wait, that is the exact reason
[19:29] <Xabster> :|
[19:29] <streulma> I can help you out kingfisher64
[19:29] <Xabster> "These early access release downloads of the JRE and JDK are based on code available on OpenJDK at the time they were built and might not include the latest security patches."
[19:29] <Xabster> it's openjdk, released by oracle
[19:30] <Xabster> okay, now that i got your attention: oracle jdk 8 ppa?
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> Xabster: thats not "openjdk"!!!!
[19:30] <kingfisher64> there's 2 nvidia-304, both the same except one reads 304-updates. Is this the best choice streulma ? & many thanks :)
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> Xabster: try the webupd8 ppa https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[19:31] <Xabster> thanks
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: what version f ubuntu are you on?
[19:32] <kingfisher64> 3.10 hitsujiTMO
[19:33] <kingfisher64> lol - 13.10
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: use, nvidia-304   (not -updates)
[19:34] <kingfisher64> reverting to that now hitsujiTMO, streulma
[19:34] <streulma> ok kingfisher64, you are in Ubuntu ?
[19:34] <asd_> so i have a problem when running apt-get update i get this errors  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950579/
[19:34] <asd_> how can i fix it?
[19:34] <kingfisher64> yep 13.10 streulma
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | asd_ purge the ppa that no longer exists
[19:35] <kingfisher64> out of interest how do you know which version to use hitsujiTMO ?
[19:36] <streulma> ubuntu installed on SSD in seconds... thanks to synaptic and markings saving :)
[19:36] <rizton> Flips a coin: HEADS
[19:36] <rizton> 8-)
[19:37] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: I managed to get the html working
[19:37] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: 304 is the supported legacy driver. 319 "should" work for the 8600 but, the 8600 is litterly the bottom of the list of cards that that driver supports so could just be a support issue itself
[19:37] <Vivekananda> but now I am trying to see why the php returns a blank page.Does that ppa give me instructions on it ?
[19:38] <kingfisher64> aah, I take is support is better for newer machines? later on this year i'm getting a new machine hitsujiTMO
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: i would assume the the default config should at least run. you might want to read thru the error logs
[19:38] <kingfisher64> it's 6-7 years old but works really well so...
[19:39] <streulma> I should not use Apache 2.4 because I have not eaten cheese from it :)
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> kingfisher64: yes, normally nvidia is second only to intel when it comes to driver support
[19:39] <Vivekananda> I did not get what you mean by 'default config'
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: the ppa will come with a working "default config" (points to /var/www) etc, so you don't have to write one yourself.
[19:40] <Decstasy> quit
[19:41] <streulma> kingfisher64: do you have rebooted right now to apply the changes ?
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: logs are usually the best way to find out whats going wrong at least
[19:41] <Vivekananda> when I ran it after installing it just showed me the it works ! html page. Itdoes so now too with the new directly
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: ensure you have enabled the php5 module aswell
[19:42] <kingfisher64> i've not rebooted yet but 304 has installed hitsujiTMO, streulma
[19:42] <streulma> kingfisher64 you have to reboot to apply, the 319 driver is now in use
[19:43] <kingfisher64> right, let's see then. Many thanks
[19:43] <dbristow> I got a copy of 12.04.4 LTS from ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/12.04.4/, and the copy of wubi.exe that was there did not pass the sha256sum in the SHA256SUMS checksum file.  Any reason why that would fail?
[19:43] <streulma> kingfisher64 I have the 319-updates working here... Apple Macbook Pro Medio 2009 - Nvidia 9600
[19:43] <dbristow> Everything else passes.
[19:46] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: I have and logs tell me issues with mysql . I formatted the OS partition. Does that mean earlier mysql dbases are now lost to me ?
[19:46] <Vivekananda> or is it stored in /home ? somewhere that I can import ?
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: most likely yes. afaik the database was in /var
[19:47] <streulma> :) ^
[19:47] <Vivekananda> hmmm okay :(
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> dbristow: don't use wubi,  whether the checksum works out or not
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> dbristow: wubi sucks, is a good way to break your machine and doesn't work on the latest versions of Window. either use a VM or dualboot
[19:50] <someone235> Hey, I've installed Xubuntu on ASUS PC with EFI, and now I can't boot from the OS. Someone knows how can I boot with EFI?
[19:51] <beandog> what?  wubi is awesome
[19:51]  * beandog hugs wubi
[19:51] <beandog> Dunno about it working with newer EFI though
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: in what way can't you "boot from the OS" ???
[19:52] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, anytime I boot, I get to the blue EFI screen.
[19:53] <someone235> I can still boot from USB or DVD, but not from the hard disk
[19:53] <hitsujiTMO> what blue EFI screen? you mean the windows boot loader?
[19:53] <streulma> is kingfisher64 back ?
[19:53] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, yes
[19:53] <kingfisher64> thanks hitsujiTMO, streulma 304 is running fine. Only time will tell if it's consistent.
[19:54] <streulma> ok no errors now anymore kingfisher64 ?
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: go into the bios and disable fast boot. then use the uefi boot menu in your bios to boot the ubuntu cd/install
[19:54] <kingfisher64> not at present but it was intermittent with 319 version so we'll soon see streulma
[19:54] <streulma> :)
[19:55] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, I've already installed Xubuntu. Why should I re-install it?
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: let me rephrase that: make sure fast boot is disabled then  use the uefi boot menu in your bios to boot the installed copy of the xubuntu
[19:57] <someone235> I'm pretty sure I did it, but let me check again
[19:57] <streulma> someone235: Legacy boot should be enabled in BIOS
[19:57] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, what about "CSM" should it be enabled?
[19:58] <zim> Hi all. Quick yes no Q. About to reinstall the desktop version as I am getting feed with 13.10 and I see that many people are saying that the 14.04 is already loads more stable is this the case?
[19:58] <hitsujiTMO> streulma: not if he wants to use uefi (i.e. if another OS is already installed with UEFI)
[19:58] <someone235> streulma, I don't have option to Legacy boot
[19:59] <someone235> OK, I check it
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: NO. do not enable that. If you have ubuntu already installed or booting a disk >2tb then you'll run into trouble
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: s/ubuntu/another OS
[19:59] <someone235> OK
[19:59] <someone235> let me check
[19:59] <someone235> brb
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | zim you should NOT use an unstable testing environment as your main OS!
[20:00] <CAM``> hi guys... can i ask a question here related to ssh?
[20:01] <jarope> try it CAM``
[20:01] <CAM``> i have a script that will ssh into my routers (over 40 sites).. but sometimes some of my sites go down or the ip changes... the script tries to ssh to the wrong ip... and then there is a 2 minute delay before it stops the attempt..and moves to the next site...... is there a way to reduce that timeout to like 30 seconds?
[20:02] <jarope> ssh -o ConnectTimeout=10  <hostName>
[20:02] <jarope> CAM``,
[20:02] <zim> hitsujiTMO, ty for standard reply BUT? life and standard alfa/beta are not always the same 13.10 has never worked great IMHO
[20:02] <CAM``> awesome
[20:02] <CAM``> im going to try that out
[20:02] <CAM``> thank you
[20:02] <jarope> CAM``, I am noob I just googled it
[20:03] <jarope> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4936807/how-to-setup-ssh-timeout-in-shell-script
[20:03] <someone235> hitsujiTMO: didn't work
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> zim: 14.04 is currently an unstable development environment. its intended for testing ONLY.
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> zim: any trusty related questions should be pointed to #ubuntu+1 (as inferred by the "standard reply") as this channel is only for the current releases
[20:05] <zim> hitsujiTMO, I get that was just wondering what people experience has been so far as a few blogs are saying that it better already. And 13.10 (on my laptop) has always given me a hard time
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> zim: #ubuntu+1 to ask such questions then
[20:05] <someone235> hitsujiTMO: I disabled Fastboot, and I still get the blue screen
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: windows is current default in your uefi boot. you need to select ubuntu from your efi boot manager
[20:06] <someone235> hitsujiTMO: I don't have windows
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: then whats this blue screen??? can you take a pic please
[20:07] <someone235> hitsujiTMO: I can't sorry
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: what exactly is this screen? whats on it?
[20:08] <dbristow> hitsujiTMO: Well, they keep delivering new versions of wubi.  I'm not going to use the thing but I sometimes burn ISOs and such for NYLUG (New York Linux Users's Group)
[20:08] <zim> hitsujiTMO, ok then my main bugbear at the moment is dbus-deamon runs one core at 100% from boot is there a quick fix?
[20:08] <dbristow> If it's that broken they should stop distributing it.
[20:08] <someone235> hitsujiTMO: It is where I can enable\disable fastboot, csm, etc
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: ok so you're in the uefi then. that means xubuntu wasn't installed. please boot the xubuntu live cd and we can have a look at what went wrong
[20:09] <someone235> OK sec
[20:11] <chris__123> hi, i try to encrypt a disk from live cd 12.10 but i can't enter a password. it immediately returns Error reading passphrase.
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> dbristow: wubi is now deprecated. Not sure why they still ship it (prob related to 12.04 LTS stuff) but yeah, it's something that should be avoided at all costs
[20:12] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, what to check now?
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: start with: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:13] <rudolph> Does anyone know how to make an OpenVPN client automatically make a VPN connection at boot using Lubuntu?
[20:13] <CAM``> thank you jarope... it worked
[20:13] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950806/
[20:14] <rudolph> Here's a thread with a screenshot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206115
[20:17] <bdonnahue2> hello im having an issue with bridging interfaces. is anyone familiar with this?
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gdisk && sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit && sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb | pastebinit
[20:19] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950830/, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6950831/
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: you never created an efi system partition
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> !uefi | someone235
[20:20] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, Should I reinstall Xubuntu?
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: in such a case, since you're only using 1 OS, then you can safely install under CSM mode to avoid the UEFI necessities, or you'd have do it all again, but add in an efi system partition
[20:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Is Ubuntu Touch GNU?
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> !touch | CountryfiedLinux
[20:22] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, I tried CSM, but it doesn't work
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: yes, you'll need to reinstall. the efi system partition is instead of the old mbr bootstrap.
[20:23] <someone235> OK
[20:23] <CountryfiedLinux> Yeah, good luck getting a response there hitsujiTMO
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> CountryfiedLinux: ???
[20:25] <CountryfiedLinux> I was joking hitsujiTMO
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, ok
[20:25] <someone235> hitsujiTMO, EFI is recommended in the SSD?
[20:25] <someone235> I have 24GB SSD and 120GB HDD
[20:25] <Evilmax> hi all
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: yeah. put it on the ssh. just create a 100mb partition for it
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> someone235: s/ssh/ssd
[20:26] <Evilmax> if i have a php page that has to execute a shell script. by passing variables to it: what permission i have to use for more security? Script are owned by www data
[20:27] <Evilmax> it works anyway if i set only execute permission?
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: have the script owned by root
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> Evilmax: ^
[20:27] <Evilmax> "pass variables to a script" what need? read, write or execute?
[20:27] <Evilmax> ah
[20:28] <Evilmax> and wwwdata che read them?
[20:28] <Evilmax> owned by root seems that not work
[20:28] <dukerutledge> I'm curious if anyone has been having synaptics touch pad issues lately. Mine has been working fine and has suddenly gone haywire. It works for a few minutes and then will freeze and possibly come back or stay that.
[20:28] <Evilmax> my rpoblem is: let pass variables but do not let an user from wwwdata, from web, to read or modifi them
[20:29] <Evilmax> modify*
[20:30] <dukerutledge> I've looked up a few solutions and nothing seems to work reliably.
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> evilbug: the script needs just: read and execute permission for whatever user running it. having it as the www-data user can allow an attacker change the permissions for the script, and then modify the script if they try to gain access to it using an exploit
[20:32] <CountryfiedLinux> dukerutledge, *bump
[20:33] <Evilmax> ok hitsujiTMO:)
[20:33] <Evilmax> and when wwwdata pass variables to it...it is not a form of "writing"?
[20:34] <Evilmax> anyway in the script there are some password....read them it would be dangerous
[20:35] <chrillster> I wonder, i have a vps, and i would like to stream media from it. Would ftp/http or https be my best option? Or even samba share? (and would i need to run something to transcode?) ffmpeg or something like that.
[20:37] <Gallomimia> simple filesharing should work for you chrillster . what is the destination of  the streaming?
[20:38] <chrillster> Sorry my english is a bit flawed. My destination is my home pc. Filesharing, something like ftp?`( i have heard that ftp traffic is shapped and not optimal for big files, this might be false though)
[20:38] <chrillster> Home Win8-pc even
[20:39] <Gallomimia> it passes over the internet?
[20:39] <chrillster> Yes.
[20:39] <Gallomimia> cause here i thought it would be just in your home network
[20:39] <chrillster> It will.
[20:39] <chrillster> Sorry, its over the internet, yes.
[20:39] <Gallomimia> i suggest http
[20:40] <chrillster> Allright. - Is any particular port preffered? (i find it a bit choppy to be honest) But the vps has 450mbit up, and i have 24 down. But that might not be the issue
[20:41] <Gallomimia> i think VLC and mplayer both have options to let you enter a URL to view
[20:41] <Gallomimia> 80 is usually preferred
[20:41] <Gallomimia> but it shouldn't matter at all no
[20:41] <Gallomimia> you might find that the files you're viewing are going to be too large to deal with in this manner...
[20:41] <chrillster> Allright.
[20:42] <Gallomimia> it's an odd problem i must admit
[20:42] <chrillster> I know i cant compare this. But how come that for instance netflix works in superhd...?
[20:42] <chrillster> Stupid question perhaps
[20:42] <Gallomimia> usually hosted data is more expensive than keeping the data on your home pc
[20:42] <Gallomimia> it's probably compressed better
[20:43] <chrillster> Allright. I will try to see if i have any other options to use as a "backend" on the server.
[20:43] <chrillster> But your answer is what i feared, too big files to deal with.
[20:43] <chrillster> Thanks for the help! :)
[20:44] <Gallomimia> who knows. maybe it's not decoding them in a timely manner on your pc. i'm at quite a loss as to why you're not just copying the file to your local HD and viewing it that way
[20:45] <chrillster> Gallomimia, im experimenting.
[20:45] <chrillster> Its just something i want to get to work :)
[20:45] <Gallomimia> it's interesting. i'd like to try it for perhaps mobile applications i suppose
[20:46] <Gallomimia> i'm going to suggest you get knowledgable in analysing the network traffic for speed, throughput, latency jitter and the rest
[20:46] <Gallomimia> i can't recall off the top of my head but i think there's a FOSS solution for this
[20:47] <chrillster> Allright.
[20:47] <chrillster> Thanks for that tip! :)
[20:47] <Gallomimia> might be a plugin for apache?
[20:48] <Gallomimia> what do they call those? modules i think
[20:48] <chrillster> ampache
[20:48] <chrillster> I think so?
[20:48] <Vivekananda> I m back
[20:48] <Gallomimia> oh no.
[20:48] <Vivekananda> so apparently installing java also ran into issues :(
[20:50] <Vivekananda> I am trying to run java install using here  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html  . I get -- sha256sum mismatch jdk-7u51-linux-i586.tar.gz . Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed.
[20:51] <Vivekananda> also my homescreen still shows the /home/user/ instead of /home/user/Desktop
[20:51] <Gallomimia> Vivekananda: usually if you see a checksum mismatch it's cause someone has given you the wrong file! i don't recognize the URL you're using, and i would be highly suspicious of its security
[20:52] <Vivekananda> Gallomimia: I used the link and the link is what is recommended in ubuntu java install
[20:52] <Vivekananda> so are you saying ubuntu is suspicious :)
[20:52] <Gallomimia> that's a wiki right? so someone could have changed it without authority
[20:52] <oscalation> if im using ubuntu server 12.04 and im attempting to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1/5.1.58-1ubuntu3  but this package appears to have been removed, what options do i have
[20:54] <Gallomimia> Vivekananda: the domain name webupd8.org is registered to a company in romania. trusted or untrusted?
[20:54] <mistawright> I need some help. How would i go about opening up port 514 so that logs can be sent to it by my other servers?
[20:55] <Salve> How can I setup a file in a directory to be run when I enter the dir?
[20:55] <Gallomimia> mistawright: interesting port selection. too bad you told everyone? the first question to ask yourself is what protocol do you wish to use to send that data?
[20:56] <TJ-> Gallomimia: please, before making such claims, actually *check* the resource the user is working from!
[20:56] <mistawright> Gallomimia, udp and im not on the server ;)
[20:56] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Don't worry, the reason for the error is that the script from the PPA contains the hard-coded checksum of the file that Oracle provide, and it looks as if Oracle have updated the file but not the version number, so there is a checksum mismatch
[20:59] <Vivekananda> Gallomimia: hmm so I am trying this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[20:59] <TJ-> Vivekananda: tell us what this reports: "sha254sum  jdk-7u51-linux-i586.tar.gz"
[20:59] <TJ-> Vivekananda: oops, typo! tell us what this reports: "sha256sum  jdk-7u51-linux-i586.tar.gz"
[21:01] <Vivekananda> says no suchfile ordirectory
[21:01] <Vivekananda> so how do I install java now ?
[21:02] <TJ-> Vivekananda: OK, you need to be in the directory where the script downloaded the file to... check for it in /tmp/ "ls -al /tmp/jdk*"
[21:02] <Vivekananda> Also it says downloaded ( received everything) nothing more to download so where does this download go to ? also why cant I see it
[21:02] <Vivekananda> ok
[21:02] <UNIm95> ho 2 all
[21:02] <UNIm95> hi*
[21:03] <jatt> {Uptime} [22:03:08 up 2:33, 3 users] {Load average} [0.17, 0.17, 0.21]
[21:03] <TJ-> Vivekananda: I've downloaded the file from Oracle; its checksum matches what is in the script, so I'm going to guess your download was corrupted
[21:03] <Gallomimia> mistawright: so i'm reading that this port is the official port for syslog right? there's a bit of info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syslog also i am searching the ubuntu site for a guide on that. i'd like to know more myself
[21:03] <Akiva-Mobile> will this run ubuntu: http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/sys/4316317091.html
[21:03] <Akiva-Mobile> ?
[21:04] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I think so too
[21:04] <Vivekananda> but in the tmp/ I dont see any jdk* files
[21:04] <UNIm95> I have question: why xfce taskmanager don't change priority of programm?
[21:04] <Vivekananda> what is wrong with my machine :(
[21:04] <Gallomimia> !touch | Akiva-Mobile
[21:04] <Vivekananda> also I am having another issue
[21:04] <xubuntu197> Waar vind ik het nederlandse ubuntu channel?
[21:04] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Have you run memtest86+ at boot-time? Possible memory module is bad
[21:04] <Gallomimia> !nl
[21:04] <Vivekananda> also my homescreen still shows the /home/user/ instead of /home/user/Deskto
[21:05] <Akiva-Mobile> Gallomimia: so you don't know? :)
[21:05] <Vivekananda> TJ-: eerything was working fine before I stupidly tried compiz and then all this
[21:05] <Vivekananda> had to reinstall and do all sorts of stuff
[21:05] <Vivekananda> I want to try the download afresh
[21:06] <Gallomimia> Akiva-Mobile: my point is that ubuntu-touch is a different channel, and a bit of a different software. that link should help you find out tho
[21:06] <TJ-> Vivekananda: let me figure out where it is stored
[21:06] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I can move to that in a bit
[21:06] <Vivekananda> but first I need to figure this out also my homescreen still shows the /home/user/ instead of /home/user/Deskto
[21:06] <Gallomimia> Akiva-Mobile: that device is not listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[21:06] <Akiva-Mobile> Gallomimia: thanks
[21:07] <TJ-> Vivekananda: No idea about that, does it happen for a new fresh user too?
[21:08] <Gallomimia> Akiva-Mobile: some thinkpads are, but all listed under "work in progress"
[21:08] <Vivekananda> no
[21:09] <Vivekananda> how to do delte the config files or reset them ?
[21:09] <Vivekananda> for home/ and Desktop/
[21:10] <TJ-> Vivekananda: For the Java downloader, the files are saved in "/var/cache/oracle-jdk7-installer/"
[21:13] <TJ-> Vivekananda: There are 2 directories that can store the user config: "$HOME/.config/" and  "$HOME/.gconf"
[21:13] <Vivekananda> okay
[21:13] <Vivekananda> lemme remove those and try a relogin
[21:13] <TJ-> Vivekananda: On mine I see : "/home/tj/.config/user-dirs.dirs:8:XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop"
[21:13] <Vivekananda> also let me delete the
[21:13] <TJ-> Vivekananda: NO!!!!!11
[21:13] <Vivekananda> var cadhe
[21:13] <TJ-> Vivekananda: do NOT delete your user config dirs
[21:14] <Vivekananda> not delete just remove to different location
[21:14] <TJ-> Vivekananda: That kind of action is what will mess up your system!
[21:14] <Vivekananda> or empty its contents or something
[21:14] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Do NOT!
[21:14] <Vivekananda> ok
[21:14] <Vivekananda> waiting
[21:14] <Vivekananda> do I delete the var/cache thing ?
[21:14] <TJ-> You'll destroy all manner of configurations if you interfere blindly
[21:14] <streulma> I have a Macbook... I should let place an extra drive enclosure in place of my dvd bay, in Apple Store. What if they saw there is Ubuntu on it? :D
[21:14] <glitsj16> hi people
[21:15] <TJ-> Vivekananda: No... but you can see what files are there and manually generate the checksum to compare with what is expected
[21:15] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Let's do the checksum now - it's quick and easy
[21:15] <Vivekananda> sure
[21:15] <Vivekananda> so what do I do now
[21:15] <Vivekananda> also isnt that file corrupt ?
[21:15] <Vivekananda> if it is isnt a fresh download required ?
[21:15] <TJ-> Vivekananda: "sha256sum /var/cache/oracle-jdk7-installer/*.tar.gz"
[21:16] <TJ-> Vivekananda: We don't *know* yet, we just suspect it. We should obtain proof. That's why we checksum it and check
[21:16] <Vivekananda> a77d1b2a9f65f339ebe810d0bed35d03c8c9e6a8ae36dfb625577e589d3dbd41
[21:16] <TJ-> Vivekananda: OK, and we expected "b3a2965e44446e476f4e27f7ea13a503a91403ac80bcd71693ad2f84baff42cf" so it is corrupt. *now* you can delete it :)
[21:16] <Vivekananda> great !
[21:17] <TJ-> Vivekananda: "sudo rm /var/cache/oracle-jdk7-installer/*.tar.gz"
[21:17] <TJ-> Vivekananda: OK, back to your desktop issue. Run this command "grep -rn 'DESKTOP_DIR' ~/.gconf/* ~/.config/*"
[21:18] <Vivekananda> lemme try the run again of
[21:18] <Vivekananda> installer of java
[21:20] <TJ-> Vivekananda: OK, whilst you do that, I'm going to return to repairing a UPS here, so I may not be watching the screen constantly
[21:21] <Vivekananda> install: cannot stat `javaws-wrapper.sh': No such file or directory
[21:21] <Vivekananda> dpkg: error processing oracle-java7-installer (--configure):
[21:21] <Vivekananda> TJ-: sorry
[21:22] <coolaidman> having a really weird issue. selecting text in gedit (just gedit as far as I can tell, libra, terminal, browsers, desktop work fine) it starts a selection and randomly "clears" the selection as im dragging. it does this very flash like so that I am never able to select text (for instance to copy/paste it)
[21:22] <coolaidman> ive considered that it may be a keystick or something, but I would think the other apps would exhibit similar behavior if that were the case
[21:22] <coolaidman> what could be causing gedit to behave like this? ive tried shutting it down and restarting to no avail
[21:24] <coolaidman> its basically resetting my selection a milisecond after starting it
[21:24] <coolaidman> i would like to point out this came out of the blue
[21:25] <Vivekananda> I got an error saying : cannot stat `javaws-wrapper.sh': No such file or directory
[21:28] <setxi> Hi when i wrote sudo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit this command install   nvidia-cuda-doc nvidia-cuda-gdb nvidia-cuda-toolkit nvidia-opencl-dev how to skip install this nvidia-opencl-dev ??
[21:29] <bekks> setxi: It is a dependency, you cannot skip it.
[21:30] <coolaidman> if i double click and highlight a word, the word highlights, and then instantiously (probably 10-15 millis) the selection is cleared
[21:30] <coolaidman> if i drag the mouse, the selection keeps clearing and unclearing
[21:30] <coolaidman> it just looks like a bunch of flashes. the cut/paste icons above also flash very quickly indicating the selection is going nuts
[21:31] <coolaidman> i would say this would be a keystick or mouse stick, but it works on EVERY other application. but gedit
[21:35] <Kekai> I run Ubuntu 13.10 on a netbook. Lenovo Ideapad S10 with 200GB HD space and 512mb of ram
[21:35] <Kekai> I am having freezing errors in a boat load of apps
[21:36] <Kekai> The screen turns monochrome and then just quits
[21:36] <Kekai> Mostly in Skype, Nightingale, and Mozilla firefox
[21:36] <Kekai> I am at the end of my rope
[21:37] <Vivekananda> that is very low ram
[21:37] <Kekai> Its a machine built in 2009
[21:37] <Vivekananda> Kekai: did you check the specs for 13.10 ?
[21:37] <Vivekananda> requisite ram and stuff ?
[21:37] <Kekai> yes
[21:38] <Kekai> it said only 300mb of ram
[21:38] <OerHeks> hmmz atom 270 with Intel GMA 950
[21:38] <Kekai> 70 mhz
[21:38] <Kekai> i have 90
[21:38] <OerHeks> i would run xubuntu on that machine
[21:38] <Kekai> 5GB od HDD space
[21:38] <Kekai> tried an I dont like the desin
[21:39] <Kekai> Anyway to run Lubuntu/xubuntu and have the OS desgin?
[21:39] <Vivekananda> Kekai: they will be plain but do everything you want
[21:39] <Vivekananda> and no they wont have all the bells and whistles of unity, gnome etc
[21:40] <Vivekananda> as far as I know
[21:40] <Vivekananda> Kekai: also program like firefox and skype easily eat up ram
[21:41] <Vivekananda> I was having troubles ( a little) in 2 Gigs of ram
[21:41] <Vivekananda> but xubuntu ran fine
[21:41] <Kekai> lol
[21:42] <Kekai> Someone just suggegested using the netbook as a door stop and upgrading
[21:42] <Kekai> but its too hard when I have to pay for everything I am drained constantly
[21:42] <jhutchins> Kekai: It could be a hardware problem as well.  Probably a good idea to open the cover plates and clean out any dust.
[21:42] <Kekai> I did
[21:42] <bonhoeffer> my os drive went bad (running ubuntu) and now i'm struggling to get all my data back -- i need to mount all my drives with a usb key-run os -- what is a good distro?
[21:42] <Kekai> I have a can of air duster here
[21:43] <Kekai> Lenovo has doors for everything
[21:43] <jhutchins> Kekai: Also, re-seat the RAM.  Running lm_sensors doesn't cause much load.
[21:44] <Kekai> I cant reseat the ram
[21:44] <Kekai> Its soldier into the motherbord
[21:44] <jhutchins> Kekai: Then nothing to worry about.
[21:44] <jhutchins> Kekai: How much swap did you give it?
[21:45] <Kekai> only ting I can think o is ripping the 2 2GB of ram out of the laptop
[21:45] <Kekai> the cards can fit
[21:45] <Kekai> but I tried once and got a black screen
[21:46] <w1d0wm8k4r> Hello All!
[21:46] <w1d0wm8k4r> I have a prob dumb Q!
[21:47] <k1l_> w1d0wm8k4r: just ask if its related to ubuntu
[21:48] <setxi> nvidia-cuda-tollkit this is same package what cuda from nvidia repo?
[21:48] <w1d0wm8k4r> At startup ever since I allowed an auto update I get the following system program problem detected with dialog boxes for report issue or ignore how can I find the source of the prob and get this annoying problem message to dissapear?
[21:50] <maraca> hi, I am trying to install the latest nginx 1.4.5 on ubuntu 12.04, this is  the apt-repo where we get the package list http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  and this is the error i am getting https://gist.github.com/maraca/a25539957baf434bf382 , any idea why I'm getting this error?
[21:50] <w1d0wm8k4r> where is the log at least and then I'm sure I cn google my way out of it lol
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> setxi: there is no nvidia repo.    do you mean is that the cuda binary that nvidia provides? then yes it is
[21:51] <w1d0wm8k4r> experimental 310 drivers maybe?
[21:51] <evan__> Hello! Can anyone help me with choosing what distribution to install on my old computer?
[21:51] <k1l_> evan__: what are the specs?
[21:51] <bendystraw> Unity never seems to work for me
[21:52] <evan__> It's a MacBook 2,1 with 1 GB ram, 80 GB HD space and a 2.0 GHz processor
[21:52] <evan__> And I have OSX Snow Leopard
[21:52] <bonhoeffer> why -- if i boot off cd -- i get a command prompt
[21:52] <evan__> Can I do Ubuntu 13.10 or should I do Lubuntu?
[21:52] <bonhoeffer> i land at initramfs
[21:52] <wrapash> evan_: I think that you'll not have any problem with ubuntu
[21:52] <bendystraw> I suggest Ubuntu 13.10
[21:52] <k1l_> w1d0wm8k4r: if you click on more information on that error message do you get any ?
[21:52] <setxi> hitsujiTMO do you have 10 minuts to help?
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> w1d0wm8k4r: when you get that message, you can view the package causing the issue before sending it
[21:52] <bonhoeffer> BusyBox v.1.20.2 built in shell
[21:52] <evan__> Cool thanks
[21:53] <w1d0wm8k4r> that option wasn' t offered
[21:53] <evan__> I have it downloaded and I'm trying to do the MD5 checksum but when I type in the command in Terminal nothing happens
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> setxi: I'm not familiar with cuda if thats what you're asking
[21:53] <maraca> ah this .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nginx/+bug/1281282
[21:53] <evan__> is there any other way to do it
[21:53] <bendystraw> I need some help with Unity: whenever I try to run it, the whole HUD disappears and I can only see my cursor and my background
[21:53] <bonhoeffer> i've tried three distros and nothing boots to a gui
[21:53] <garymc> m
[21:54] <k1l_> bonhoeffer: what hardware specs?
[21:54] <Arceye> I would suggest xubuntu my hardware is AMD athlon 64 3700+ ( 2.2Ghz ) 2 GB ram and it can't handle ubuntu
[21:54] <bonhoeffer> intel 64 bit
[21:54] <bonhoeffer> i can give more info k1l if you need it -- but i don't know off the top of my head
[21:54] <k1l_> !nomodeset | bonhoeffer try that
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> evan__: give it time. it can take a few minutes to md4sum a full cd
[21:54] <wrapash> Arceye: but I tried with others' computers older than evan_'s and I had no problem
[21:55] <OerHeks> maraca, your error says "depends >="  & "depends <", so the build is not valid, contact the ppa owner
[21:55] <evan__> oh alright thanks
[21:55] <Arceye> wrapash, have at it then :)
[21:55] <bonhoeffer> k1l_: i ran linux on this device for 4 years -- but i did add a graphics card recently
[21:55] <maraca> OerHeks I just found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nginx/+bug/1281282 . Thanks for taking a look. much appreciated
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> evan__: with such low ram i'd go with lubuntu. otherwise you'll be severly limiting yourself with the number of apps you can simultaneously run
[21:56] <OerHeks> maraca great! please confirm this bug, it will speed up
[21:56] <maraca> will do!
[21:56] <OerHeks> * a fix
[21:56] <Vivekananda> hmm
[21:56] <wrapash> Arceye: It lags even less than Xubuntu
[21:56] <Vivekananda> so still stuck
[21:56] <evan__> hitsujiTMO: ya i think i'll do lubuntu just 2 be on the safe side
[21:56] <evan__> thanks
[21:57] <Vivekananda> hoping to install java 7 and running into issues
[21:57] <vbgunz> I have an issue burning me up to no end here. I fully encrypted an installation a long time ago and now I need to mount it's boot partition in another install BUT the boot partition itself is somehow encrypted (which I thought impossible) and I don't have a password for it. how do I unlock it?
[21:57] <bendystraw>  I need some help with Unity: whenever I try to run it, the whole HUD disappears and I can only see my cursor and my background
[21:57] <bonhoeffer> k1l_:  will try nomodeset
[21:57] <wrapash> Lubuntu is so ugly
[21:57] <vbgunz> what's the password more like it?
[21:57] <bendystraw> Lxde is very ugly
[21:57] <bendystraw> So I need Unity for it
[21:57] <bendystraw> But the issue is
[21:57] <bendystraw>  I need some help with Unity: whenever I try to run it, the whole HUD disappears and I can only see my cursor and my background
[21:57] <k1l_> bendystraw: make sure the video drivers is up and running
[21:58] <bendystraw> Good idea
[21:58] <bendystraw> I'll check
[21:59] <Arceye> wrapash, xubuntu was the only thing I could get running on my hardware, apparently it was hardware ( ati 3650HD ) causing the problems. It's all good now though with the same gfx card
[22:00] <Arceye> I do get slowdowns and network data transfer isn't as fast, ut it's acceptable
[22:00] <Arceye> *is
[22:01] <wrapash> Arceye: Have you tried other distributions?
[22:01] <Arceye> it's a big list :)
[22:01] <wrapash> Same problems everywhere?
[22:02] <Arceye> wrapash, most of my problems were dual monitors not working as they should
[22:02] <Arceye> random slow downs, where the pc would slow to a crawl for no apparent reason
[22:03] <wrapash> Arceye: so maybe that you have hardware problems?
[22:03] <Arceye> But, I have had a lot of help in here and I have done a lot of other things ( bios settings ) and now xubuntu works acceptably
[22:03] <bonhoeffer> nomodeset -- still booted me to busybox
[22:04] <bonhoeffer> really caught in a loop here
[22:04] <xebi> Anyone have any clues as to this http://pastie.org/8743405?
[22:05] <xebi> I mean, 77000 is a lot of files open.
[22:05] <Arceye> wrapash, ati gfx was appearing to be the source of all problems , however I assume all versions ubuntu should be able to have the exact same drivers so why some only xubuntu works I have no idea
[22:06] <wrapash> Maybe because it needs no graphic acceleration
[22:07] <Arceye> wrapash, but I used the xfce ( or whateve xubunu uses ) while runing ubuntu and lubuntu but none of them worked, I honestly have no idea
[22:09] <wanderingi> any good lightweight web based download managers?
[22:10] <bonhoeffer> i might have a bad superblock from my reading, but i should still be able to boot to a live usb right?
[22:12] <bonhoeffer> it seems like nomodeset or some minimal boot would word
[22:13] <bonhoeffer> i'm running the check disk for defects option on boot, but that reboots the machine
[22:14] <bonhoeffer> with no results
[22:15] <bonhoeffer> anyone with an idea why i can't even boot to a livecd -- that has nothing to do with the hard drive, correct?
[22:15] <maveas> bonhoeffer: You might need to enable booting from the CD and set the CD drive as first boot device in your BIOS.
[22:16] <bonhoeffer> yeah -- i do that
[22:16] <maveas> bonhoeffer: Or the livecd isn't working properly?
[22:16] <bonhoeffer> i've tried two live cd's and two operating systems
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: do you have fast boot enabled?
[22:16] <bonhoeffer> or distros
[22:16] <bonhoeffer> not sure -- but i don't have any problem selecting the right disk in the bios
[22:16] <setxi> I have bad errors on my sdcard . This sdcard working on windows but on linux not working this is possible to fix this errors?
[22:17] <bonhoeffer> i tried deft and 13.10 ubuntu -- both fail to boot
[22:17] <bonhoeffer> from the live usb drive
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: quick boot/fast boot disables some hardware during the boot process preventing them from being booted from
[22:17] <bonhoeffer> got it -- i'll look in bios
[22:17] <Guest57425> i forgot
[22:17] <boldii> hi
[22:17] <k1l_> bonhoeffer: did you actually try nomodeset now?
[22:17] <Guest57425> but how do i make netflix work on my ubuntu
[22:17] <bonhoeffer> of course
[22:18] <bonhoeffer> with the same result though
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Guest57425: pipelight is prob your best bet
[22:18] <k1l_> does this hardware work with any other OS?
[22:18] <boldii> I have a problem with my wifi adapters. both the internal one and the one I connect with usb do show up greyed out in the network manager app. does anybody have an idea what I could do?
[22:18] <bonhoeffer> k1l_: yes
[22:18] <bonhoeffer> windows is just fine
[22:18] <bonhoeffer> and ubuntu was fine for 4 years
[22:18] <bonhoeffer> (or 3)
[22:19] <k1l_> bonhoeffer: did you check the md5sum from the iso or the cd?
[22:19] <bonhoeffer> no -- but it boots fine on other hardware
[22:19] <Guest57425> its not in the ubuntu software center
[22:19] <bonhoeffer> maybe i'll try a third distro - anything lightweight to recommend
[22:20] <k1l_> bonhoeffer: so get the specs from that hardware
[22:20] <Kekai> Xubuntu
[22:20] <Kekai> Lubuntu
[22:20] <Guest57425> fucking hate india
[22:20] <bonhoeffer> k1l_: i would suspect the distro, but got the same problem with another distro
[22:20] <Guest57425> damm wrong room
[22:20] <bonhoeffer> i'm going to try a new usb key
[22:20] <bonhoeffer> and i'll get h/w specs
[22:21] <Guest57425> whats a room in here for offtopics ?
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Guest57425
[22:22] <jhutchins> bonhoeffer: It could be there's something wrong with your hardware.
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> Guest57425: pipelight is a midified version of wine: https://launchpad.net/pipelight
[22:23] <bonhoeffer> jhutchins: i can't rule anything out
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: what exactly is going wrong with it?
[22:23] <bonhoeffer> hitsujiTMO: i can't boot to a live cd from two different distros -- get something like busybox
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: normally when you get dropped to busybox there's an error. can you tell us what it is?
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: is this by anychance with 13.01 only?
[22:24] <bonhoeffer> hitsujiTMO: i can try to boot again -- but i'm loading up another usb key
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> 13.10*
[22:26] <bonhoeffer> hitsujiTMO: well, i tried deft as well ( a forensics distro)
[22:27] <bonhoeffer> is there a lightweight distro i should try
[22:28] <bonhoeffer> Lubuntu
[22:28] <jhutchins> bonhoeffer: You need to watch your POST, and you need to boot in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the boot command).
[22:28] <Kekai> bonhoeffer: I would try Xubuntu, or Lubuntu
[22:28] <bonhoeffer> Kekai: trying lbuntu
[22:29] <bonhoeffer> jhutchins: i will watch my post -- and will be verbose
[22:29] <jhutchins> bonhoeffer: "Can't boot" is too vague, as is "busybox".
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: there's a bug with 13.10 where the ohci_pci usb driver was accidentally left out of initramfs so anything connected to a usb controller that requires that driver fails to load at initramfs. In such a case if you are booting from a usb it will fail to find the root filesystem
[22:29] <bonhoeffer> jhutchins: i agree
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: this bug effects other distros too (debian and opensuse were 2 that were effected)
[22:30] <bonhoeffer> got it -- so 32 bit lubuntu? i should have a 64b processor, but i'm assuming this is safer
[22:30] <sysadminwannabe> Hi everyone. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and I have a problem: can't change to tty2 or tty3 (Ctrl Alt F2, Ctrl Alt F3) etc... Please, can someone help me to fix this? I don't know where to start to check.
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: what about 12.04?
[22:31] <bonhoeffer> certainly
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> sysadminwannabe: do you have an acpi key on that keyboard(labeled "fn" usually) ... try: ctrl + alt + fn + f2
[22:33] <OerHeks> tty .. only 2 and 7 are enabled in Ubuntu.
[22:34] <bonhoeffer> jhutchins: hitsujiTMO my mono is: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3898#ov
[22:34] <bonhoeffer> processor is an i5 (3.3 ghz)
[22:34] <bonhoeffer> 4 core
[22:35] <sysadminwannabe> hitsujiTMO: I can't find that key on my keyboard
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> sysadminwannabe: what type of keyboard do you have?
[22:36] <jhutchins> sysadminwannabe: That key is usually limited to laptops.
[22:36] <jhutchins> sysadminwannabe: What about 4-6 and 1?
[22:36] <sysadminwannabe> hitsujiTMO: no, false alarm... is a hardware problem. I just change the keyboard and now works... It seems that the Ctrl key is broken or something...
[22:37] <sysadminwannabe> thanks anyway people!! :D
[22:37] <jhutchins> sysadminwannabe: Well there ya go.
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> sysadminwannabe: well at least you know the cause
[22:37] <jhutchins> sysadminwannabe: Quickest way to find something obvious is to post a question to a few thousand people.
[22:38] <wcchandler> jhutchins: or insult it, saying it cannot do X and is therefore inferior to Y
[22:39] <sysadminwannabe> :P yeah, sorry about that (I'm tired and I run out of ideas... rubber duck debbuging works every time :P )
[22:39] <bonhoeffer> trying lubuntu now
[22:40] <wcchandler> until you annoy everyone
[22:40]  * wcchandler knows from experience
[22:41] <adam___> Need a small, low power server to run some linux for a home office.. suggestions? my old server is biting the dust.
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> adam___: try asking in ##hardware    this is not a suitable channel for such a question
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> adam___: or may6be try the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <adam___> but I'm going to run Ubuntu on it :/
[22:43] <adam___> need hardware compat
[22:43] <bonhoeffer> crap -- so lubuntu brought me busy box (initramfs) as well (13.10), but i'm going to try 12 now
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: did you manage to get the error?
[22:44] <bonhoeffer> no -- nothing
[22:44] <bonhoeffer> trying again
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: what tool are you using to make the usb?
[22:44] <bonhoeffer> three different ones
[22:44] <bonhoeffer> now just using dd
[22:44] <bonhoeffer> but pen drive tool on windows for the first two
[22:45] <bonhoeffer> ok -- trying new distro (12.04 now
[22:45] <bonhoeffer> looks like it might be booting -- much farther than the others! i'm in
[22:45] <bonhoeffer> :))
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: \o/
[22:46] <bonhoeffer> good things -- mouse doesn't work :(
[22:46] <bonhoeffer> but keyboard does
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: can you get to "try ubuntu"      from there can you try pastebinning the output of: lspci -nn
[22:46] <bonhoeffer> fixed that -- ok -- now to look at drive
[22:46] <bonhoeffer> will do
[22:49] <bonhoeffer> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9060814
[22:49] <bonhoeffer> hitsujiTMO: any thoughts -- all looks good
[22:49] <bonhoeffer> now to see what is mounted
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: can you use: lspci -k
[22:51] <bonhoeffer> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/9060836
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: all seems good there. were you plugging the usb into a usb3 port(red one)?
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: sorry, usb3 is the blue one
[22:53] <bonhoeffer> hmm .. . front port
[22:53] <bonhoeffer> but now i'm trying to mount my drives the gist above has my sudo lsblk -o  results
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: not seeing any lsblk output
[22:56] <bonhoeffer> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/9060836
[22:56] <chris112> hi my keyboard language switch in gnome 3 is gone.
[22:56] <bonhoeffer> hmm .. . i see it in the top -- which says what it should -- so i can mount those drives
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: i see it now alright
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> o.O you didn't create a partition table on sdc?
[22:58] <bonhoeffer> i guess not
[22:58] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . . strange -- i put files there
[22:58] <bonhoeffer> these are the drives i want to move data off
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: yes you can put a filesystem directly onto a drive without creating a partition table. it's just not the best idea
[23:00] <bonhoeffer> good chance to fix things now
[23:02] <Vivekananda> ok am back
[23:03] <Vivekananda> anyone around can tell me on unity 12.04 where the settings are stored for homescreen. my homescreen shows /home/user instead of /home/user/Desktop/
[23:03] <bonhoeffer> hitsujiTMO: jhutchins i'm in business now -- thanks
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> bonhoeffer: sweet
[23:04] <bonhoeffer> the critical hint was to get of 13.10
[23:04] <ajoul> I just switched from Debian to Ubuntu and I have to say day and night
[23:04] <ajoul> Ubuntu is so much better in terms of driver support
[23:04] <ajoul> driver/hardware support
[23:05] <chris112> ajoul, which debian version where you using?
[23:08] <ajoul> Latest one, chris112
[23:08] <zilly> ls
[23:10] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: in case you are around I am trying to create a multiboot usb so I can install different oses through it. My machines currently is 64 bit capable lenovo but I have 32 bit ubuntu 12.04 installed. I wanted to ask you if I should try 64 bit  and if I will face issues running php, python, java, android adt , mysql, mysql workbench, apache
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: main issue would be with UEFI, so maybe try a legacy install. 64bit is also handier for things like php. 32bit integers in php have a max value of 2^31-1 ~= 2,000,000,000   for 64bit integers will have a max value of 2^63-1 ~= 8,000,000,000,000,000,000   ... depending on the usb as well, some things might be slow to load because of the general slow nature of most USB keys
[23:17] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: I meant that I am trying to create a usb that will contain multiple oses but I wont run it from there. I will use it to install the os on my machine and then use it
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: oh, multiple live isos? can be very tricky to get working. you'd need grub or something to have a boot menu for the individual iso images
[23:19] <ecdhe> I've got a machine running precise64.  I have a browser running in one desktop, and a terminal running in desktops 2,3, and 4.  Can I make it automatically cycle through the desktops to create a dashboard-like display/
[23:19] <ecdhe> ?
[23:19] <Vivekananda> I found this ---http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/72---easyboot---a-grubdos-multiboot-drive-that-is-easy-to-maintain/e2bv1
[23:20] <Vivekananda> I am just trying to make sure that this usb once created can also allow me to INstall those os on the laptop or not
[23:20] <ecdhe> My machine is displaying information only-- it doesn't need to accept user input, just cycle through the desktops.
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: i use my phone for such. i've installed drivedroid and can use that to mount the iso mages and serve them over the usb ports
[23:21] <ecdhe> Even if I could just get the cube-rotate feature to automatically happen every 5 seconds, that would be fine.
[23:21] <Vivekananda> do you mean you use your phone as live cd or as installers only but no live ?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> ecdhe: chvt
[23:24] <ecdhe> hitsujiTMO, thanks, I'll look into that.
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> ecdhe: chvt <tty numb>                  to be more exact. a cron is out of the question because it's granularity. but you could run a bash script that loops in an infinite loop and sleeps every 5 seconds
[23:25] <ecdhe> hitsujiTMO, will that change between workspaces (like ctrl-alt- arrow?)
[23:25] <irreverant> what is a good perf. monitoring tool for ubuntu?
[23:25] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: should I go with 64 bit then for only 4 gig of ram ?
[23:25] <irreverant> also what are best practices for making sure my computer isnt using up too much diskspace,
[23:25] <Ben64> if you have a 64bit cpu, you should go 64bit
[23:26] <irreverant> does it have a swap partition for a swapfile
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> ecdhe: in back just create a for loop that infintely cycles $num as 1,2,3,4 calls, chvt $num (or chvt 7 if $num is 4) and sleeps for 5 seconds
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> ecdhe: s/back/bash
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: if you have more than 256mbs ram go with 64bit
[23:27] <ecdhe> hitsujiTMO, sounds good, I'm a bash fiend.
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> ecdhe: needs to be run as root too for chvt to work. thats about it
[23:29] <ecdhe> So I see that `chvt  1' is the command that runs when I type ctrl-alt-f1.
[23:29] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: okay then I am going with it. One question. I have eclipse setup and everything for 32
[23:29] <Vivekananda> can I use it with
[23:29] <Vivekananda> 64 once I get it installed ?
[23:30] <ecdhe> What I need is a command that correlates to ctrl-alt-arrowkey...
[23:30] <setxi> I have on bashrc line export CUDA_SAMPLES=/home/mlody/NVIDIA_CUDA-5.5_Samples/NVIDIA_CUDA-5.5_Samples but this varible CUDA_SAMPLES is empty why? I wrote this to console and is varible is working. What is bad?
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> ecdhe: ahh sorry. thought you meant swapping vttys
[23:30] <irreverant> im getting an error the application compbiz has closed unexpectedly and im getting lockups on my box
[23:30] <irreverant> any ideas?
[23:31] <glitsj16> ecdhe: if you want to cycle through your workspaces, look into xdotool, that can script pressing any key combo in a similar bash script as hitsujiTMO described
[23:31] <irreverant> both my cores are getting locked up
[23:31] <ecdhe> hitsujiTMO, no worries, I appreciate the tip, I'd never seen chvt before.
[23:31] <ecdhe> glitsj16, thanks for the tip!
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: you can use 32bit apps in a 64bit environment that supports multiarch
[23:32] <nuclrwastd> ecdhe: I have no experience with it, but maybe a program like wmctrl
[23:32] <Vivekananda> I have no clue what multiarch means
[23:33] <ecdhe> nuclrwastd, thanks!
[23:33] <Vivekananda> but I am hoping that I can worry about it after installing the os
[23:33] <RedChops> Hey everyone, I'd like to update to 13.10 from 13.04, but my issue is I need to keep xorg-server at its current version due  to a funny driver issue. I've tried to restrict it using apt and another way I can't remember, but every time I go to update the distribution, it marks it for upgrade, is there any way I'm missing to stop this?
[23:33] <glitsj16> ecdhe: if you want to get deep into compiz scripting (like you mentioned rotating the cube), there's http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Dbus
[23:33] <irreverant> so compbiz and 12.10 are having troubles?
[23:34] <Ben64> RedChops: nope, but its likely the bug has been fixed
[23:34] <RedChops> Ben64, unfortunately it has not, it's on nvidia's end. If I update xorg, gtk wont display fonts
[23:35] <Ben64> RedChops: optimus?
[23:35] <RedChops> Ben64, tegra 3
[23:35] <Ben64> oh, you should be in #ubuntu-arm then
[23:36] <RedChops> Well, I figured there must be a simple way to hold a package back through distrobution upgrades that isn't arch specific
[23:36] <jhutchins> !pinning
[23:36] <Ben64> RedChops: its not possible, but they may be able to direct you to a solution to the actual problem
[23:36] <IRC_Jesus> For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.  For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.  John 3:16-17
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> RedChops: holding back xorg would not be something thats supported.
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> IRC_Jesus: please refrain from soliciting in this channel
[23:37] <Icehawk78> My computer froze while playing a video last night, and upon rebooting, it appears to be claiming that I no longer have graphics drivers installed, and I'm unable to play any video files now (well, they'll load, but they show maybe 1 out of every 40 frames, with no sound). Any suggestions on where to start?
[23:38] <ecdhe> hitsujiTMO, glitsj16, nuclrwastd, thanks to all of you!  I think I'll have this worked out shortly.  Much appreciated!
[23:38] <RedChops> I wish there could be a fix for this, but there likely wont be until nvidia updates their drivers.  ZAfter attempting to uninstall and reinstall the fglrx drivers... I can no longer log in using the main login screen for a particular user. Other users work fine, but my primary account flashes what appears to be a black terminal screen of some sort, and then returns to the main login page.
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> jdwwatts: is this http://linux.voyage.hk/ ? that you are on about?
[23:42] <jdwwatts> I deleted wndows 8 off and loaded voyager off he ubuntu cd distro
[23:43] <jdwwatts> 13.10
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> !info voyager
[23:44] <hitsujiTMO> jdwwatts: can you link to this app that you're reffering to? can't find any info
[23:45] <Guest59281> hallo
[23:45] <paty25> hola
[23:45] <ambro718> I dput my package to a bad PPA name and it got rejected, but now I can't dput to the right one.  "Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net"
[23:45] <ambro718> What do I do??
[23:46] <paty25> sssss
[23:46] <jdwwatts> It works great I have many things i like about it its based on xf
[23:46] <jdwwatts> ok
[23:46] <TJ-> ambro718: increment the version
[23:46] <paty25> yes
[23:47] <jdwwatts> http://voyagerlive.org/
[23:47] <trism> ambro718: delete the .upload file in that dir
[23:47] <ambro718> trism: there's no .upload
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> jdwwatts: thats a distro. it's not supported here. you'll have to contact that distro creator for support
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> jdwwatts: we can only support the official ubuntu derivatives here i'm afraid
[23:48] <ambro718> TJ-: which part of the version would that be? Now I have: 1.999.128-1~raring1
[23:48] <jdwwatts> Its a small anoyance to have to shut the app off everytime I boot in
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> ambro718: 1.999.128-1~raring2
[23:48] <ambro718> okay thanks
[23:49] <TJ-> ambro718: ignore me, I was thinking of a server-side reject, you've got a client-side reject because there's a .upload file alongside the .changes file
[23:49] <jdwwatts> ok
[23:49] <ambro718> it was a server side reject, I got an email
[23:49] <TJ-> ambro718: Yes, but it's your client-side dput that is refusing to upload
[23:50] <ambro718> ah yes there is a blablabla.upload indeed
[23:51] <adam___> how do I set up cloudprint on Ubuntu for an older printer (HP laser via usb)
[23:51] <ambro718> will anything bad happen if I remove old entired from the changes file?
[23:51] <ambro718> *entries
[23:52] <root__> hello
[23:53] <TJ-> ambro718: yes
[23:53] <jdwwatts> i am also running ubuntu 13.10 from the same linux magazine right besidw it on this dell inspiron15 and the only issue i have with it is running a install for family search indexing it runs on voyager but not ubuntu when i run the comand to start the install I get and error
[23:53] <ambro718> TJ-: what?
[23:53] <TJ-> ambro718: yes, something bad will happen
[23:54] <jdwwatts> At any rate I am happier than i was
[23:54] <ambro718> what??
[23:55] <TJ-> ambro718: you tell me! if you're not sure, don't touch, or back-up before you do it :)
[23:55] <ambro718> it's a pain to deal with this, especially when I have to submit packages for 4 or so distro versions every time
[23:55] <TJ-> ambro718: I have a script to do it
[23:55] <ambro718> I had it, but I lost it :S
[23:56] <ambro718> I'll try submitting packages with a single changes entry, see what happens :P
[23:59] <VoidWhisperer> Woo. I just made the noobiest mistake ever.. locking myself out of my server via ufw
[23:59]  * VoidWhisperer facepalms