[12:00] <LjL> oblib: yeah, run sensors-detect, and it'll probably tell you you need to "modprobe" some modules
[12:00] <rubem> Seveas Look like i'll have to let my computer turned on all nigth long :P
[12:01] <rubem> anyone know the php ide named Tulip?
[12:01] <Quistis> i know Tulip is a network card driver
[12:01] <PluckyBlade> I've just done dist-upgrade to breezy..
[12:01] <joft> Seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4940
[12:02] <PluckyBlade> all good except changing to a virtual console crashes X.org when I change back
[12:02] <joft> that's from dpkg --configure --pending
[12:02] <Seveas> hmm
[12:02] <Seveas> something definitely borked then
[12:02] <Seveas> try this now: apt-get -f install
[12:02] <Seveas> and then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-dekstop if you use kubuntu)
[12:02] <r3nd3z> anyone know how i can find different harddrives? I got 2 connected, and i dont know how to fint the last one
[12:03] <joft> Seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4941
[12:03] <sethk> PluckyBlade, that's easy, just never change back.  :)
[12:03] <joft> from -f install
[12:03] <PluckyBlade> lol@sethk
[12:03] <PluckyBlade> sad thing is suspend to ram works a dream.. until it wakes up :)
[12:03] <krak`nix> r3nd3z: does it show up in system > administration > disks?
[12:04] <joft> hm, it didn't work?
[12:04] <Seveas> it seems to have worked
[12:04] <Seveas> but the output is incomplete
[12:04] <Seveas> what's after the unpacking line?
[12:04] <joft> yeah that's what i mean
[12:04] <joft> a bunch of errors
[12:04] <r3nd3z> krak`nix, hmm, cant find any "disks" there
[12:05] <joft> where's the apt error log?
[12:05] <Seveas> can you put the errors on the pastebin or in a private chat
[12:05] <Seveas> there is none
[12:05] <Seveas> apt-get -f install 2>&1 | python pastebin
[12:05] <PluckyBlade> other bad news is amarok dies each time it changes song.
[12:05] <gar-> ok i use NdisWrapper i loaded the driver and work say driver present but the usb adapter dont go on and i get error when i try to do ifcofing wlan0 or ifup wlan0 any idea how i can put it to work
[12:05] <krak`nix> r3nd3z: you're on breezy?
[12:06] <mrkoje> has anyone had the xorg ATI x700 problem?
[12:06] <fluvvell> PluckyBlade: I have a similar effect on the laptop, I blame the acpid because it comes up all hot and bothered after any sleep.
[12:06] <joft> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4943
[12:06] <oblib> LjL, okay, I have detected a module, how do I check the temp of the cpu?
[12:06] <r3nd3z> krak`nix, , hmm, no, the one before that
[12:06] <gar-> ok i use NdisWrapper i loaded the driver and work say driver present but the usb adapter dont go on and i get error when i try to do ifcofing wlan0 or ifup wlan0 any idea how i can put it to work
[12:07] <Seveas> joft, sudo apt-get update
[12:07] <Seveas> joft, sudo apt-get clean
[12:07] <Seveas> joft, sudo apt-get -f install
[12:07] <fluvvell> gar-; have you looked at iwconfig?
[12:07] <gar-> yeap
[12:07] <gar-> i say i dont have wlan0
[12:07] <PluckyBlade> fluvvell -- everything was fine on hoary though..
[12:07] <gar-> only show 3 on the list
[12:08] <LjL> oblib: type "sensors"
[12:08] <krak`nix> r3nd3z: ah ok, im on breezy :(
[12:08] <fluvvell> PluckyBlade, the laptop is still on hoary lol!  I've got one of the desktops running on breezy upgrade ok
[12:08] <mrkoje> !dbkg
[12:08] <ubotu> mrkoje: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:08] <joft> done, looks like same errors
[12:08] <LjL> oblib: there is also a package "sensord" which can monitor your sensors, log them and signal alarms
[12:08] <r3nd3z> krak`nix,  ah, okey
[12:08] <Seveas> joft, including the apt-get clean?
[12:08] <fluvvell> PluckyBlade, but want to upgrade laptop as well.  Not had a lot of luck with suspend at all!
[12:08] <oblib> LjL, that's awesome, thanks.
[12:08] <joft> yes
[12:08] <LjL> oblib: or, you can install some Gnome or KDE frontend that can sit as a tray icon
[12:08] <oblib> LjL, that was my next question
[12:08] <Zedugh> joft, did you get you SegFault problem fixed?
[12:08] <gar-> fluvvell i try that one only show lo an etch0 and stio notting about wlan0
[12:08] <joft> no
[12:09] <fseek> hi
[12:09] <TokenBad> when installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?
[12:09] <Seveas> joft, ok, then apt-get -f --force-overwrite install
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, it might not be wlan0, mine comes up as eth1
[12:09] <oblib> LjL, any ideas on what an appropriate max temp should be for a Celeron?
[12:09] <PluckyBlade> Suspend has been good on this one -- Dell latitude D400
[12:09] <gar-> yes
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, still another has a different interface name
[12:09] <joft> i'll try that next, i'm in the middle of -f dist-upgrade
[12:09] <gar-> but mine is a usbwireless adapter
[12:09] <LjL> oblib: no, i have no clue
[12:09] <gar-> DWL-G122
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, yes I see.
[12:09] <joft> actually i have to go out for a while now, i'll try what you said when i get back
[12:09] <fluvvell> gar-, which configuration method did you use?
[12:10] <oblib> Anyone, what is a safe max temperature for an intel celeron CPU?
[12:10] <gar-> and also i have a ethernet card on the laptop that one the system get it it get the wireless adapter to on devices
[12:10] <LjL> oblib: type "apt-cache search sensor" for a nice selection of X, Gnome and KDE (as well as textmode) clients to monitor the sensors
[12:10] <oblib> LjL, thanks for the help
[12:10] <joft> if you wanted to suggest anything else pm it to me or i won't see it
[12:10] <purplefeltangel> can Archive Manager handle .zip files?
[12:10] <gar-> NdisWrapper
[12:10] <gar-> sudo ndiswrapper -i file.inf
[12:10] <navarone> purple> yes
[12:11] <purplefeltangel> navarone: thanks
[12:11] <fluvvell> gar-, ok. so after ndsiwrapper set up what did you do then?
[12:11] <LjL> oblib: there is also "hddtemp" to monitor your hard drives' temperature. ksensors (a KDE applet) uses it as well as lm-sensors
[12:11] <mipe> Hello. What should I do, my battery icons show right value?
[12:12] <navarone> Anyone else use stellarium prog? v nice
[12:12] <oblib> LjL, how long have hard drives had temp monitoring stuff? I haven't heard of that before, I'm using an old 3 gig right now
[12:12] <trappist> mipe: you want them to show the wrong value?
[12:12] <gar-> fluvvell i did modprobe NdisWrapper
[12:12] <gar-> NdisWrapper -m
[12:12] <LjL> oblib: i'm not sure, to be honest. i think it was quite recently, i guess your HD doesn't have it, but i don't really know
[12:12] <fluvvell> gar-, and the driver lists when you do lsmod ?
[12:13] <gar-> lsmod???
[12:13] <gar-> no idea
[12:13] <rabar> is there a difference between extreme digital and excellent digital camera cards?
[12:13] <mifritscher> oblib, my 80 GB IMB HDD has it, my 6 GB FUITISU HDD not
[12:13] <Zedugh> navarone, i use stellarium and kstars, both nice, kstars more functional
[12:13] <mifritscher> I thought that IBM was one of the first
[12:13] <navarone> Zedugh> yes stellarium has the real wow factor tho...kinda like celstia
[12:14] <LjL> oblib: i think you should just try installing "hddtemp", then "sudo hddtemp /dev/hdX" will tell you whether you have the sensor or not
[12:14] <oblib> thanks mifritscher. So I'm guessing this one doesn't. okay LjL.
[12:14] <gar-> fluvvell i never did lsmod
[12:14] <bloc76> is there a php4 package for breezy. I only see php5.
[12:14] <mifritscher> I use webmin-smarty to get this info ;)
[12:15] <mifritscher> bloc76, yes, try apt-cache search php4
[12:15] <mifritscher> (but why do you need php4?)
[12:16] <mipe> trappist:Sorry this my mistake I have wrong value on my batteri icons, but when I run in shell command acpi, everything show ok.
[12:16] <navarone> Zedugh> was just looking at another astronomy prog... http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/   looks very good but needs to be installed by source. I have no luck with that...lol
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: i only see php5. i need php 4 because that's what we use on our servers
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: is it in universe?
[12:16] <mifritscher> hmm, even with the apt-cache serach-command?
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: yes
[12:16] <mifritscher> I thought php4 was in the main...
[12:16] <bloc76> mifritscher: apt-cache search php4
[12:17] <mifritscher> hmm, seems to be in universe...
[12:18] <mifritscher> Filename: pool/universe/p/php4/php4-common_4.4.0-3_i386.deb
[12:18] <bloc76> mifritscher: k, thanks
[12:18] <fluvvell> gar-, I take it you've read http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu ?
[12:18] <bloc76> mifritscher: hopefully this indicates the beginnings of real movement to php5 :)
[12:18] <mifritscher> no problem :)
[12:19] <TokenBad> when installing proftpd it says can't install as standalone or for inetd or xinetd and to check config...any idea what it means?
[12:19] <gar-> fluvvell i read alot of them with the same thing
[12:19] <fluvvell> gar-, so what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?
[12:20] <Mabus06> fluvvell, man ndiswrapper
[12:20] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  Are there any known issues with the ATI flgrx drivers and Breezy (kernel 2.6.12-9-k7)  I'm tearing my hair out, trying to get them to work.
[12:20] <gar-> everything run fine no problem the only thing is a i canot get the device to go up to work to detect on the network confg
[12:21] <colloron> i'm runing ubuntu hoary from live cd. what can i use to open up a .rar file?
[12:22] <DarthFrog> colloron: You need the unrar program.  It might not be on the CD.
[12:22] <colloron> right so i've done apt-get update but its still not there
[12:22] <d03boy> sethk: thanks for all the help. Grub is back to normal :)
[12:22] <sethk> d03boy, good to hear.  I've gone through that process several times, as you may have guessed.  :)
[12:23] <gar-> fluvvell the only thing i notice is Installed ndis drivers:
[12:23] <gar-> mrv8ka51        driver present, hardware present
[12:23] <amonkey> does anyone know how to get sound to work with google video? everything else seems to play fine.
[12:23] <mrkoje> Does anyone know if i can use (haven't tried it yet and don't want to waste time) If i can install the ATI linux proprierty drivers with Breezy Live?
[12:23] <fluvvell> Mabus06, its gar- that is using ndiswrapper,
[12:23] <d03boy> Does anyone have any suggestions for a wireless manager? Mine doesnt work so well--it shows that it can see my network and everything but never actually establishes a connection :(
[12:23] <gar-> fluvvell but i dont say hardware present
[12:23] <jorge_> hey guys, how do i log out of KDE through konsole
[12:23] <DarthFrog> mrkoje: I'm fighting with the ATI drivers right now.  AFAICT, they don't work with Breezy.
[12:24] <Seveas> jorge_, not
[12:24] <gar-> fluvvell it say driver present but dont say hardware present
[12:24] <d03boy> jorge_: I think you actually have to kill the process
[12:24] <Seveas> or by restarting kdm
[12:24] <jorge_> Seveas: what?
[12:24] <jorge_> not?
[12:24] <jorge_> not is a command?
[12:24] <jorge_> or...
[12:24] <Seveas> no
[12:24] <mrkoje> DarthFrog: pain in the ass
[12:24] <Seveas> it is not possible unless you use the command to restart kdm
[12:24] <jorge_> how can I, I dont have access to the taskbar
[12:24] <gar-> fluvvell do u think it could me the driver???
[12:24] <mrkoje> darthFrog: isn't it
[12:24] <jorge_> I'm using gdm not kdm
[12:24] <fluvvell> gar-, what? is the hardware plugged in?   you just said" mrv8ka51        driver present, hardware present "
[12:24] <Seveas> DarthFrog, use the latest drivers from ati.com
[12:24] <jorge_> nevermind brb
[12:24] <phin3as> Seveas, do you code functionally in any language?
[12:24] <Seveas> they work like a charm
[12:24] <fluvvell> gar-, is that what it said or not?
[12:24] <gar-> that is a sample
[12:25] <gar-> that is not actualy my driver and my wireless usb adapter is plugin
[12:25] <jorge_> shutdown
[12:25] <mrkoje> Seveas: The ATI Linux Propriety Drivers right? Can we Install those even with a live cd
[12:25] <gar-> it only say driver present but it dont say hardware present
[12:25] <DarthFrog> Seveas: I am, darnit.
[12:25] <Seveas> phin3as, that is quite off topic in here, so if you want to continue this discussion -> #ubuntu-offtopic and yes I can code in quite a few languages
[12:25] <d03boy> anyone know what I need to do in order to make it so ubuntu will actually "enable" my wireless when it is available?
[12:25] <d03boy> i'm not sure if there is a special app I need to use..
[12:25] <fluvvell> gar-, and the output of ndiswrapper -l   on *your* computer says...   what exactly?
[12:25] <Seveas> mrkoje, yes, but it'll be lost on updates
[12:26] <gar-> say
[12:26] <phin3as> Seveas, my apologies. I was merely wondering
[12:26] <mrkoje> as long as it wil get x up for 10 minutes i think I will be ok
[12:26] <gar-> PRISMUSB driver present
[12:26] <gar-> that all
[12:26] <mrkoje> windows update killed my raid!!!!!!!!!
[12:26] <fluvvell> gar-, thanks. got that
[12:26] <TokenBad> anyone? please?
[12:26] <mrkoje> i think I am going to just install linux on that damn cpu now and emulate windows
[12:27] <gar-> fluvvell what do u think?
[12:27] <fluvvell> gar-, I'm thinking along the lines of what usb support is there for wireless adaptors.
[12:27] <bigfoot1> how do i kill VLC Media player? I've tried xkill, but it doesn't work. If I have to do a command, please tell me the exact command.
[12:27] <gar-> that driver i downloaded from the dlink ftp
[12:27] <Seveas> fluvvell, USB wireless usually is a PITA
[12:27] <gar-> PITA????
[12:28] <Xenguy> bigfoot1: pkill  ?
[12:28] <fluvvell> Seveas, not surprised really
[12:28] <fluvvell> Seveas, usb gives me a few headaches in other places too.
[12:28] <Astxist> bigfoot1, try kill
[12:28] <gar-> i bin all day trying to figured it out
[12:28] <trappist> bigfoot1: pgrep vlc
[12:28] <TokenBad> hmmm..maybe I am not being seen
[12:28] <bigfoot1> trappist:
[12:28] <bigfoot1> trappist: pgrep vlc
[12:29] <bigfoot1> 17776
[12:29] <fluvvell> gar-, do you have any other wireless adaptors you can try?  eg pci card ?
[12:29] <bigfoot1> now what
[12:29] <trappist> bigfoot1: kill 17776
[12:29] <gar-> fluvvell btw im using  ndiswrapper that come with ubuntu 5.04
[12:29] <gar-> nope
[12:29] <bigfoot1> trappist: it worked!
[12:29] <bigfoot1> thank you
[12:29] <bigfoot1> kill is stronger than xkill, i guess
[12:30] <Mabus06> I have doom3 for linux, but it runs incredibly choppy. What can I do short of getting new hardware to improve it? I have 1gig of memory, a 2.8ghz processor, but only my onboard video card.
[12:30] <ghostpsalm> When compiling a kernel - is there any 'guide' to what each selection is?  And/Or can you download a minimal '.config' and add my desired drivers/modules myself?
[12:30] <trappist> kill goes after the process.  xkill is for a window.
[12:30] <fluvvell> gar-, is this for a laptop?
[12:30] <gar-> yeap
[12:30] <gar-> gateway solo 9550
[12:30] <fletch33> i am trying to set up frenx and i have my client working fine but i am lost with gettingmy server set up. both computers are running ubu and i have gone thru all the stpes on the wiki. i really need this and i have been working on it for days and i am at the end of my rope. does anyone have a moment that can help me see what i am missing
[12:30] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, the general advice is to use ubuntu kernel sources and change .config to your needs
[12:30] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, and *always* use make-kpkg
[12:30] <navarone> Mabus> with onboard vid you should lower graphic mode until game improves in fps
[12:31] <fluvvell> gar-, did you get the usb adaptor before putting ubuntu on, or is the wlan adaptor a recent aquisition?
[12:31] <gar-> yes
[12:31] <gar-> is working now fine
[12:31] <gar-> on windows
[12:31] <gar-> -_-
[12:31] <fluvvell> gar-, yes which?
[12:31] <ghostpsalm> Seveas: Why always use makekpkg?  And do you mean cp and 'make oldconfig'?
[12:31] <gar-> windows xp
[12:31] <gar-> sux
[12:31] <Seveas> no
[12:31] <Xenguy> trappist: pgrep is cool - never heard of that before
[12:32] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, search the wiki for kernel
[12:32] <Xenguy> trappist: used to doing ps aux
[12:32] <Xenguy> |grep
[12:32] <Seveas> it has more detailed instructions
[12:32] <trappist> yeah me too :)
[12:32] <Xenguy> trappist: pkill seems to work more consistently than killall I've found recently too
[12:32] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  I have, and it suggest 'ByHand' if you are going to re-build it often.  My hope is to get the most minimal of kernel's (obviously that still wrks).
[12:32] <fluvvell> gar-, as painful as it may seem, you may be better with a pcmcia card that has drivers in linux/ubuntu already.
[12:33] <TokenBad> someone tell me what this means:    ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[12:33] <d03boy> can anyone recommend a good wireless connection manager
[12:33] <trappist> yeah pkill if you trust that you aren't gonna kill anything else
[12:33] <gar-> fluvvell but the beutifull part is that the ubuntu detect the usb adapter wireless card and everything on the device management
[12:33] <ghostpsalm> TokenBad: I am not sure, it may mean your kernel has not the drivers to run it successfully.  Or libraries.
[12:33] <blanky> my sound in firefox isnt working (flash)
[12:34] <trappist> TokenBad: you have to give it a configuration directive to start either standalone or as an inetd service
[12:34] <fletch33> ooh please help woth freenx anyone
[12:34] <TokenBad> trappist, it didn't ask
[12:34] <purplefeltangel> how do i install fonts?
[12:34] <trappist> TokenBad: ask?  you put it in your config file
[12:34] <bimberi> d03boy: network-manager looks good (although i haven't used it much)
[12:34] <TokenBad> what config?
[12:34] <d03boy> k
[12:34] <TokenBad> the proftpd.conf?
[12:34] <trappist> yes
[12:35] <fletch33> i am half way there and have everything installed on client and server but something is worng on the server end
[12:35] <TokenBad> ok once I edit..how would I restart it?
[12:35] <blanky> wtf, something's goign on with my pc
[12:35] <toresn> how do i switch between the four desktops?
[12:36] <pjssilva> toresn: crtl + alt + arrow
[12:36] <Seveas> toresn, click on the desktop switching applet
[12:36] <bimberi> toresbe: ctrl-alt-rightarrow (and -leftarrow)
[12:36] <TokenBad> trappist, once I edit the config..how restart it?
[12:36] <bimberi> toresn ^^ (sry toresbe)
[12:37] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  Why do you suggest *always* using make-kpkg.  Is there any problems making a lightweight kernel by hand?
[12:37] <toresn> pjssilva: ah. ok. is it possible to get more workspaces?
[12:37] <blanky> guys im so scared, I think my system is effed up. Firefox wont play files anymore, and flash doesnt have sound
[12:37] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, make-kpkg can make lightweight kernels too
[12:37] <pjssilva> toresn: Right click on the applet and configure it.
[12:37] <blanky> :'(
[12:37] <Seveas> the advantage is that it makes .deb files and initrds for you automatically
[12:37] <trappist> TokenBad: well that depends on how you're running it.  if it's an inetd service, restart inetd.  if you have an init script, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart.  if you just said ./proftpd, kill it and restart it.
[12:37] <j813> Hi guys
[12:38] <Seveas> toresn, rightclick on the panel and select preferences
[12:38] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  Explain how?  The Wiki says 'but it's also rather heavyweight'... and seems not to suggest otherwise?
[12:38] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, it just runs make bzimage modules-install (etc...)
[12:38] <trappist> Seveas: funny you should mention that, I couldn't get make-kpkg to make an initrd to save my life.
[12:38] <Seveas> and packages it nicely into a deb
[12:39] <bimberi> toresn: you can also keyboard shortcuts to switch to Desktop # available (but unconfigured by default) in System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:39] <Seveas> trappist, actually, I lied: the initrd is made by the configure step of the .deb package
[12:39] <j813> trappist what's your time there?
[12:39] <blanky> hey guys, in debfoster, what do i have to press to remove a package, r, or p
[12:39] <TokenBad> umm...ok...I don't think its running at all then...
[12:39] <trappist> j813: 1739
[12:39] <TokenBad> cause I didn't do anything to start it
[12:39] <ghostpsalm> So it replaces a handful of commands?  What is the benefit of it being in /deb format?
[12:39] <Seveas> blanky, r = remove, p = remove and remove all its dependencies that are not needed by others
[12:40] <j813> just slept for while now AM here :)
[12:40] <blanky> thanks i love you
[12:40] <trappist> Seveas: installing the resulting .deb didn't give me an initrd either.  neither did a manual make install.  I simply could not get an initrd for my custom kernel.
[12:40] <basti__> is there any command that will show me all the users that exist on the pc?
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> whoah
[12:40] <Seveas> trappist, make-kpkg --initrd
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> trappist
[12:40] <trappist> Seveas: cool
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> hey trappist *hugs*
[12:40] <trappist> NsOmNiAc: hey dude
[12:41] <purplefeltangel> how do i install fonts?
[12:41] <NsOmNiAc> your trying it out huh ?
[12:41] <bimberi> basti__: cat /etc/passwd
[12:41] <TokenBad> trappist, that fixed it..thanks so much
[12:41] <trappist> NsOmNiAc: I wouldn't call it that.  I'm already in love :)
[12:41] <NsOmNiAc> me too
[12:41] <NsOmNiAc> 8-)
[12:41] <ghostpsalm> Seveas:  I guess my real question is, if I run through the entire KernelByHand howto; all I would have lost in comparrisson to make-kpkg is time?
[12:41] <basti__> thank you bimberi
[12:41] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, drop them in ~/.fonts/
[12:41] <purplefeltangel> seveas, thanks
[12:41] <bimberi> basti__: np :)
[12:41] <ghostpsalm> Seveas: And the --append-to-source name thingy?
[12:41] <blanky> I'M SO FRICKIN SCARED! sorry, my firefox wont play flash files and sound isnt there anymore! :'(
[12:42] <Seveas> ghostpsalm, I couldn't give a definite answer, since I never completed either of these guides :)
[12:42] <j813> Guys is it also safe to install 5.10 on a a logical partition, the primary has Windows XP NTFS, others has VFAT.
[12:42] <ghostpsalm> Seveas: Oke.  Cheers.  Maybe I'll let you know...
[12:42] <trappist> ghostpsalm: there's a lot of reasons it's nice to make a .deb.  for one thing, there's a long list of reasons it's better to stay with your distro's package manager whenever possible.
[12:42] <Seveas> j813, yes it is, but you need ext3 for linux
[12:42] <oblib> General quesion: I remember reading about a remote access program similar to vnc. Does anyone know what it's called. It's supposed to be much faster. Has anyone used it?
[12:42] <Seveas> (or anything supported, aka: not fat or ntfs)
[12:43] <bimberi> oblib: freenx
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> seveas, wait, *where* is that exactly?
[12:43] <trappist> oblib: freenk
[12:43] <oblib> that's the one
[12:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell oblib about freenx
[12:43] <trappist> err what he said
[12:43] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, ~/.fonts/
[12:43] <Seveas> the folder named .fonts in your homedir
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> oh ok
[12:43] <purplefeltangel> thanks
[12:43] <fletch33> anyone help with my freenx server problem?
[12:43] <Seveas> fletch33, 'sup?
[12:43] <navarone> purple> you may have to show hidden files to see the .fonts folder
[12:43] <GlobeCoder> can someone help me with ubuntu?
[12:44] <fletch33> Seveas,  going mad setting up the server
[12:44] <j813> Seveas was trying out the 5.10 manual partition & gave me a choice to delete the existing Fedora but was not sure if ti will affect the Windows parts
[12:44] <ghostpsalm> trappist: I did not thin that would matter so with the kernel - it does not boot from a .deb does it?  So it just makes it easier to 'install' or something?
[12:44] <Seveas> !tell GlobeCoder about anyone
[12:44] <Seveas> j813, it will not
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> o
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> alrighty
[12:44] <fletch33> Seveas, client working great but i cant get it going on server i follwed the direxctions on the wiki
[12:44] <purplefeltangel> navarone: how do i do that
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> well this is my problem
[12:44] <GlobeCoder> http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/935/linux7gx.png
[12:44] <Seveas> fletch33, what's there to setup, just apt-get install...
[12:45] <fletch33> Seveas, it says i have the latest version installed but then i cant do anything else
[12:45] <micks> oh my. I've been using ubuntu for more than a year, but today i came across a problem i can't solve in 5.10. i installed it for a friend and he wants to run Kde applications, which i never done. the czech fonts don't display correctly in these applications, although the overall localization works great - i have never used kde on linux, so i'm not sure how to solve this.
[12:45] <trappist> ghostpsalm: easier to install, makes it possible to query relevant files through the package manager, maintain versions, install the same kernel on 100 other boxes, etc.
[12:45] <purplefeltangel> ok, seveas, i r n00b. where is homedir
[12:45] <navarone> purple> go to Places/Home folder and then in the file browser go to View and check Show hidden files
[12:45] <Seveas> fletch33, and what is the error?
[12:45] <Mabus06> how come my sound card isn't outputting any sound?
[12:45] <j813> Guys are you bots? Did you slept already? Joke. Thanks guys!
[12:45] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, /home/your_user_name
[12:45] <fletch33> Seveas, what do u want me to type to find it
[12:45] <Weng> ... Is the netboot install kernel a 2.4 kernel?
[12:46] <Astxist> j813, what is this sleep you speak of ;p ?
[12:46] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, you need more diskspace
[12:46] <ghostpsalm> trappist: Doyou mind explaining 'query relevant files' and why I may want to, and also 'maintain versions'?
[12:46] <robert__> what fonts do you want to install purplefeltangel, there may be a package with them in
[12:46] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, how?
[12:46] <fletch33> Seveas,  i get permission denied
[12:46] <purplefeltangel> seveas: thx but there's no "fonts" folder there..."
[12:46] <Seveas> fletch33, I don't understand the problem: does it fail to install, fail to connect...
[12:46] <Mabus06> can someone help me to get my sound card working? I don't know where to start
[12:46] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, .fonts
[12:46] <Seveas> and you should create it :)
[12:46] <purplefeltangel> seveas: yeah, its not there
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> seveas: well how will that work :/
[12:47] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, repartition, buy a new hard drive, throw away some files....
[12:47] <navarone> purple are you using gui or cli?
[12:47] <Seveas> purplefeltangel, mkdir ~/.fonts
[12:47] <GlobeCoder> :F
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> navarone: gui
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> seveas: ok
[12:47] <purplefeltangel> robert__: arial, comic sans...basically the microsoft webfonts pack
[12:47] <fletch33> Seveas, it says it is installed with the latest version but i have never seen anything else to make options or anything after i choose no key
[12:47] <Mabus06> Seveas, I just put my audio card in my computer and turned it on, but I play rhythmbox and it doesn't play. Where do I start to fix it?
[12:47] <GlobeCoder> cant i just resize the virtual hd Seveas ?
[12:47] <navarone> purple> go to menu item PLaces at top..then Home Folder and in file browser go to View and click show hidden files
[12:48] <trappist> ghostpsalm: you can say dpkg -L kernelpackagename | grep foo and see if you forgot to compile a module, for example... you could make a custom repo with your kernels... mostly there are dozens and dozens of things, and almost all of them come down to: it's better to stick with your distro's package manager wherever feasible.
[12:48] <Seveas> fletch33, at which point do you get the 'permission denied'?
[12:48] <robert__> you want the package msttfonts then
[12:48] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: install the msttcorefonts package from universe
[12:48] <robert__> that's the one
[12:48] <Seveas> Mabus06, wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:48] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: er, *multiverse
[12:48] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, do you run it in vmware?
[12:48] <fletch33> Seveas, when i ran the setup command
[12:48] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: thanks, but my friend also sent me some other fonts that iw ant to install ... :/
[12:48] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, Microsoft Virtual PC 2004
[12:48] <fluvvell> gar-, yes it may detect that its there, this doesn't promise it will all work.
[12:48] <Seveas> fletch33, why would you run a setup command?
[12:48] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, iirc VPC and Ubuntu are not friends
[12:49] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: k
[12:49] <Seveas> but at least increase the virtual harddisk
[12:49] <robert__> purplefeltangel: you'll need to add the universe repository if you haven't already
[12:49] <fletch33> Seveas,  well where can i find it on my computer?
[12:49] <purplefeltangel> robert__: i did
[12:49] <Seveas> fletch33, find what?
[12:49] <GlobeCoder> dam
[12:50] <micks> anybody encountered the kde apps central european fonts problem? how do i point the applications in the direction of the correct fonts - (they're already there and the gtk apps are working ok)?
[12:50] <fletch33> Seveas,  well i ran everyting on the wiki and my client is setup and i ran everything for the server but what now?
[12:50] <Mabus06> can someone help me to get my sound card working? I don't know where to start. I just plugged it in, lspci recognizes it, but it doesn't output sound.
[12:50] <robert__> has anyone noticed weird font kerning issues in firefox?
[12:50] <Seveas> fletch33, connect :)
[12:50] <Seveas> run the client
[12:50] <Seveas> fill in the data for the server
[12:50] <navarone> Mabus> run alsamixer in terminal to see if the output is muted
[12:50] <robert__> like fonts jumping around when you select text?
[12:51] <purplefeltangel> ok, so, i have installed the ms core fonts, but hwat about the other ones my friend sent me?
[12:51] <trappist> micks: kcontrol has a fonts configurator iirc
[12:51] <robert__> not much but its noticable
[12:51] <fletch33> Seveas,  that is where i am lost and i have been searchoing the interner for days
[12:51] <micks> trappist: thanks, i'll look for it
[12:51] <Seveas> fletch33, the client installs a menu entry in applications -> internet
[12:51] <Seveas> use that
[12:51] <j813> Is there an Enterprise Edition, what's the difference & where can I download it? :)
[12:52] <fletch33> Seveas,  i tink something is not right on my server because i never had to choose a password or anything
[12:52] <Seveas> j813, not yet, the diff. is duration of support (3 to 5 years instead of 18 monthd)
[12:52] <GlobeCoder> k Seveas
[12:52] <Seveas> fletch33, password for what?
[12:52] <Mabus06> navarone, nope, it's at 100 but the device it lists is my onboard instead of my pci card
[12:52] <GlobeCoder> you think 16000 mb is enough?
[12:52] <Seveas> the freenx server does not need passwords, it uses system passwords
[12:52] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: copy them into ~/.fonts (as discussed)
[12:52] <j813> thanks Sev
[12:52] <krak`nix> god
[12:52] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: and if the folder doesnt exist, i should just create it?
[12:52] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to enabel automatic updates?.. is there a way in the gui or should I use cron?
[12:52] <Seveas> GlobeCoder, it should be
[12:52] <navarone> Mabus> ddi you use bios or jumpers to disable onboard sound? And what is card?
[12:52] <purplefeltangel> and that will work?
[12:52] <fletch33> Seveas,  well i have to put some info in the client to know where to connect to
[12:52] <GlobeCoder> :P
[12:52] <Mabus06> how do I make ubuntu use my sound card instead of onboard sound?
[12:53] <krak`nix> hate how you cant paste something if you close the app you copied it from
[12:53] <krak`nix> before pasting :(
[12:53] <Seveas> fletch33, the IP address or hostname of the server
[12:53] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: yes, with "mkdir ~/.fonts"
[12:53] <Mabus06> navarone, the card is a C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6
[12:53] <Mabus06> it is recognized by lspci
[12:53] <Seveas> and your username and password on the server
[12:53] <fletch33> Seveas,  i tried both and denied
[12:53] <krak`nix> http://s87055070.onlinehome.us/ted/photo/m3u.png
[12:53] <Mabus06> I will brb after checking BIO
[12:53] <krak`nix> anyone know a fix?
[12:53] <Mabus06> S
[12:53] <navarone> Mabus> and did you disable the onboard sound?
[12:53] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: thanks
[12:53] <Seveas> fletch33, probably because you messed with nxsetup
[12:53] <yukaili> Anybody know how to install Ubuntu on a computer running Windows>
[12:53] <fletch33> Seveas, and the client says please input the password when i try to connect
[12:54] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: no yet, make sure it works first :)
[12:54] <bimberi> *not
[12:54] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, its making the vhd now.
[12:54] <fletch33> Seveas,  it says connection refused
[12:54] <vincent> total noob to linux here, firefox will not connect to most websites, but having have connection to the interner as using it now. fresh install of breezy badger, any help?
[12:55] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: yup, it worked!  Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[12:56] <robert__> krak`nix i believe the next version of gnome has a clipboard applet
[12:56] <Seveas> fletch33, make sure port 22 isn't blocked and that the ssh server is installed on the server (if you use the ubuntu packages for freenx, it should all be ok)
[12:56] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: they arent showing up in gaim. should i just restart it?
[12:56] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card but it is providing no output, can anyone offer some advice?
[12:56] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: hm, i guess so
[12:56] <PinTo> l o
[12:57] <fletch33> Seveas,  i did change the ports to 8888 and i put that in the client
[12:57] <ghostpsalm> trappist: How would I make a 'lightweight' kernel with make-kpkg?
[12:57] <Seveas> fletch33, did you do that in the NX server *AND* ssh server and restart the ssh server?
[12:57] <trappist> ghostpsalm: same way you'd do it any other way.  do your make *config, remove stuff you don't need, build.
[12:57] <PinTo> going bak to my problem make Xconfig doesnt work
[12:57] <fletch33> Seveas,  i didnt l;ook in synaptics for anything though
[12:57] <PinTo> i need qt?
[12:57] <mrkoje> I got Breezy live working with ATI now... where would my harddrive be mounted>
[12:58] <vincent> excellent seveas, many thanks for swift and helpful response
[12:58] <fletch33> Seveas,  well idid both and restarted the computer since
[12:58] <navarone> Mabus> try System/Prefer/Sound and make sure server is set to start and that proper device is selected
[12:58] <Seveas> fletch33, sudo nxserver --status
[12:58] <Seveas> fletch33, sudo netstat -tlno
[12:59] <Seveas> put the output of these commands on the pastebin
[12:59] <Seveas> fletch33, sudo netstat -tlnp
[12:59] <fletch33> Seveas,  ok i will try that and let u know what happens
[12:59] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card but it is providing no output, can anyone offer some advice?
[01:04] <Mabus06> i have also set my default sound card to be the pci one I want to use under system, preferences, sound
[01:04] <Mabus06> but again, no output
[01:04] <Mabus06> can anyone help?
[01:04] <ghostpsalm> trappist:  DO you know of a minimal .config that you could download and then menuconfig it to add in only the ones I want?
[01:04] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[01:04] <fletch33> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/30781
[01:04] <Mabus06> ?
[01:04] <lightbright> when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas anyone?
[01:04] <DShepherd> hey
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: hey hey!  you still seeking to get rid off that message about clock at bootime?
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: right on! can you help
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: indeed I can!  Seveas gave me a command that removes it. want it?
[01:04] <fletch33> Seveas,  am i still on i havent seen any new posts
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: removes it? permanently?
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: do you mean disable it?
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: removes it from appearing at bootime, want it or not?
[01:04] <lightbright> ok seems he doesnt want it, ok
[01:04] <lightbright> brb
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: :-D
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: can I borrow it please..
[01:04] <DShepherd> ?
[01:04] <phillijw> waka waka
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: too late :)
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[01:04] <trappist> ghostpsalm: no
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: interesting.. care to break down that line for me
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas what causes this?
[01:04] <hoopdr> hi :) how far away is the next release?
[01:04] <hoopdr> on past experience
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: none at all
[01:04] <lightbright> DShepherd: no I dont!   I just typed it and now I dont see that annoyoing message anymore!  if you want it broken down, yu would have to ask Seveas
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: when has this been happening
[01:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: ok kool
[01:04] !alindeman:*! Regional server split; we're looking into it
[01:04] <Jestre> wee
[01:08] <hoopdr> i was wondering to get badger for a friend now or wait till the next one
[01:08] <lightbright> whats the difference between sudo nautilus and gksudu nautilus ?
[01:08] <DShepherd> gksudo is guo
[01:10] <DShepherd> gui*
[01:11] <zovirl> I installed dvd::rip and used it last week.  Today when I start it up all the fonts are squished together
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: really i dont know
[01:11] <lightbright> DShepherd: what do you know? :P
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: my name
[01:11] <lightbright> DShepherd: what is your name?
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: i think
[01:11] <lightbright> David?
[01:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: not. lightbright :P
[01:11] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[01:11] <lightbright> Seveas: when I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas?
[01:11] <hoopdr> actually ignore that question. upgrading it is easily instructed
[01:11] <zovirl> any ideas why?
[01:11] <zovirl> I don't recall changing anything...
[01:11] <lightbright> zovirl: ;)
[01:11] <lightbright> nice word: squished ;)
[01:11] <robert__> DShepherd: update-rc.d simply removes the script that syncs the clock at boot
[01:15] <Mabus06> uh sorry if anyoen answered earlier
[01:15] <Mabus06> but I lagged out
[01:15] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:15] <mrkoje> I just ran Breezy live... where are my windows files at?
[01:15] <DShepherd> robert__: oh ok, why does it take so long anyways? do you know?
[01:18] <lightbright> DShepherd: Darren? :)
[01:18] <DShepherd> lightbright: :)
[01:18] <m_akys> hello, how can I add parameters to a module on boot?
[01:18] <lightbright> m_akys: yes
[01:18] <Seveas> yike
[01:18] <Seveas> freenode probs
[01:18] <robert__> DShepherd: no, but i expect it is a network problem
[01:18] <m_akys> May I edit the file /etc/modutils/xxx?
[01:18] <lightbright> m_akys: Press 'e' to edit the commands before booting
[01:18] <GlobeCoder> searcher`
[01:18] <GlobeCoder> meh
[01:18] <Ayame> Hey, having an issue with a duplicate block on my hard drive. I know fsck will repair it, but I can't run fsck. Can anyone help?
[01:18] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, its installing now.
[01:18] <robert__> DShepherd: but if you add a & at the end of the line /etc/init.d/ntpdate it might not take so long
[01:18] <DShepherd> robert__: how so..
[01:18] <robert__> DShepherd: if you do sudo gedit /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[01:18] <m_akys> I want to pass the parameter ac97_quirk=2 to hte module snd-intel8x0
[01:18] <lightbright> whats the best and easiest way to install Java on 5.10?
[01:18] <m_akys> but if it works good i want to make it persistence
[01:18] <robert__> find the line that starts /usr/sbin/ntpdate and add a & at the end
[01:18] <robert__> this is purely hypothesis
[01:18] <Mabus06> why is this server being so laggy?
[01:18] <robert__> i haven't tried this mind
[01:18] <cevizoglu> !java
[01:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:18] <lightbright> !javadebs
[01:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[01:18] <m_akys> I'll try pressing 'e' at boot to see if the parameter solve my problem
[01:18] <lightbright> cevizoglu: which one do I download from http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/?
[01:18] <lightbright> m_akys: that will enable you to add paramaters to kernel at bootime
[01:18] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:18] <Ayame> Does ubuntu have a preset root password? I need it to repair my system, outside of the GUI. Otherwise I can't run fsck
[01:18] <m_akys> thanks lightbright
[01:18] <Seveas> mrkoje, on your drive perhaps :)
[01:18] <cevizoglu> lightbright: there are different versions of java, you should pick the one that suits you
[01:18] <Seveas> Ayame, boot into recue mode - it does not need a password
[01:19] <cevizoglu> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp is the most common, I think
[01:19] <Ayame> K, rescue mode, I've seen recovery mode in GRUB but not rescue. Do I need the Live CD for that?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> version 1.5.0 = version 5.0.0. btw
[01:19] <cevizoglu> it's marketing from sun
[01:19] <Seveas> Ayame, recue, recovery -- it's all the same :)
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: I found a command from that website you gave me: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: thats from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:19] <Ayame> Okay, we'll I've done that and it just came to the same end. Enter Password or Control +D. Maybe I've gone wrong somewhere?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> lightbright: if you like the blackdown version, that'll suit you then
[01:19] <lightbright> Ayame: does recovery mean the same as rescue?
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: i just need java for Limewire
[01:19] <Ayame> According to Seveas, it is.
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: how would I know what version Java is best?  Isnt Java all the same?
[01:19] <lightbright> Seveas:  When I try to load Terminal, it says: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal.  Any ideas anyone?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> lightbright: there are sun's versions, and there are the open source versions
[01:19] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:19] <lightbright> cevizoglu: in YOUR opinion,. whats best for limewire? :)  sorry Im confused
[01:19] <sethk> Mabus06, lspci doesn't exactly recognize things
[01:19] <Mabus06> lspci recognizes my sound card, and I have it set to default under system>preferences>sound.... but no sound output comes through... can anyone help me fix this?
[01:19] <geargolem> hello How do I upgrade Java from 1.4 to 1.5
[01:19] <cevizoglu> lightbright: I don't know, I don't run limewire
[01:19] <Seveas> grmfl - freenode is b0rking
[01:19] <lightbright> am I on Seveas's ignore? :P
[01:19] <sethk> Mabus06, it just retrieves info from the card
[01:20] <Mabus06> sethk, well it shows up there
[01:20] <lightbright> Seveas: can you not see me anymore?
[01:20] <Seveas> lightbright, no, i'm having problems with my connection
[01:20] <Mabus06> sethk, any advice?
[01:20] <fletch33> Seveas, u stilll there i lost my connection
[01:20] <cevizoglu> lightbright: it will probably work
[01:20] <lightbright> Seveas: ah im glad you see me :)
[01:20] <Mabus06> everyone did, fletch33
[01:20] <Seveas> fletch33, so did I
[01:20] <PinTo> i still cant make xconfig
[01:20] <sethk> Mabus06, what I meant is that showing up there doesn't mean that the kernel knows it
[01:20] <Seveas> anyway, I'm going to bed
[01:20] <fletch33> Seveas, did u get my pastebin
[01:20] <Mabus06> you broke the internet, fletch33... happy? :D
[01:20] <lightbright> cevizoglu: im following the command from the webiste you gave me
[01:20] <fletch33> Mabus06,  damn agagin
[01:20] <lightbright> cevizoglu: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[01:20] <sethk> Mabus06, when you bring up a sound mixer does it show the right sound hardware?
[01:20] <fletch33> Mabus06,  i have to stop doing that
[01:20] <Mabus06> sethk, sound mixer?
[01:20] <cevizoglu> lightbright: yes, you said that
[01:21] <lightbright> Seveas: dont look under the bed, there are monsters there :)
[01:21] <lightbright> Seveas: sweet dreams, night :)
[01:21] <Ayame> Well, the rescue mode lead has given me somewhere to start, I'm reading the documentation now. thanks!
[01:21] <PinTo> i need libincurses5.dev ?
[01:21] <sethk> Mabus06, do you have a little speaker symbol on your gnome bar?
[01:21] <fletch33> Seveas, did u get my paste bin?
[01:21] <sethk> Mabus06, on the right?
[01:21] <cevizoglu> lightbright: I think that's the version I use, I'm not a java buff
[01:21] <Mabus06> yes sethk
[01:21] <lightbright> cevizoglu: did I say that before? hmm, sory :P
[01:21] <sethk> Mabus06, right click it, and do open volume control, that brings up the mixer
[01:21] <Mabus06> sethk, and it's not muted (why does everyone say that? :D)
[01:21] <lightbright> sethk: hello my young friend :)
[01:21] <lightbright> Mabus06: is it plugged into the wall? :)
[01:22] <sethk> Mabus06, everyone says that because occasionally it is muted.  :)
[01:22] <Mabus06> sethk, nope it's showing my onboard still
[01:22] <geargolem> what do I use my info on for, 'fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "<Your name>" --email "<Your email>" jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin'   and get it to work without 'error, missing path'?
[01:22] <lightbright> papabear: hello, where is mommabear today?
[01:22] <PinTo> could n e 1 help me out here plz
[01:22] <sethk> Mabus06, hmm.
[01:22] <Mabus06> lightbright, yes, the speakers are on, turned on, system volume is one and all that stuff
[01:22] <sethk> Mabus06, well, as long as the volume control thing shows the onboard, that's what is going to be used (or tried, anyway)
[01:22] <PinTo> i cant make xconfig ....i've done xhost
[01:22] <Mabus06> it's nothing blatantly retarded
[01:23] <Mabus06> sethk, I want to use my PCI not the onboard
[01:23] <PinTo> =and i have done make xconfig in cd linux-2.6.14 still nofin
[01:23] <sethk> Mabus06, yes, I understand, what I meant is that it isn't happening
[01:23] <PinTo> it tried but it didnt work
[01:23] <Weng> If I want to run a console command at every boot, but before login, where do I put it?
[01:23] <Mabus06> sethk, so where should I start to fix it?
[01:24] <sethk> PinTo, you can install ncurses and do make menuconfig, but xconfig should be working
[01:24] <lightbright> Mabus06: ok
[01:24] <sethk> Mabus06, can you turn the onboard off in the BIOS?
[01:24] <lightbright> Mabus06: and have yoy installed all multimedia files?
[01:24] <Mabus06> sethk, yes I could do that
[01:24] <Mabus06> sethk, it is set to "auto" right now
[01:24] <Mabus06> lightbright, what multimedia files?
[01:24] <sethk> Mabus06, try turning it off, see if the kernel finds the other sound hardware
[01:24] <PinTo> sethk it aint workin i dont even have n e thing in synaptic
[01:25] <cevizoglu> I have a brand new installed system and I'm trying to reinstall 982 .deb's which were previously in /var/cache/apt/archives... how would I do that from hard disk?  would I add the path to my sources.list?
[01:25] <sethk> PinTo, for ncurses, you mean?
[01:25] <fletch33> Seveas,  u still here
[01:25] <lightbright> Mabus06: type this: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[01:25] <PinTo> yeah
[01:25] <fletch33> Seveas,  u were my only hope :)
[01:25] <Mabus06> lightbright, nothing was installed by that command, so I assume I have it all
[01:25] <sethk> PinTo, when I search for ncurses I get about 20 lines
[01:25] <lightbright> Mabus06: does sound work when you chose it from System/preferences/Sound ?
[01:25] <sethk> PinTo, you don't?
[01:26] <PinTo> no i dont have ncurses in synaptic
[01:26] <lightbright> Mabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound
[01:26] <sethk> PinTo, your repositories must not be set up correctly
[01:26] <Mabus06> lightbright, sound work? what do you mean? It is listed under the available devices, and I alraedy set it to my PCI card
[01:26] <lightbright> Mabus06:  and then Sound Events
[01:26] <geargolem> what do I use my info on for, 'fakeroot make-jpkg --full-name "<Your name>" --email "<Your email>" jdk-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin'   and get it to work without 'error, missing path'?
[01:26] <sethk> PinTo, do settings/repositories.  how many repositories do you list?
[01:26] <lightbright> Mabus06:  just follow what I say for now
[01:27] <lightbright> Mabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose Sound Events
[01:27] <PinTo> sethk i'm in windows at the mo
[01:27] <lightbright> Mabus06:  you there yet?
[01:27] <sethk> PinTo, you should have seven.
[01:27] <Mabus06> lightbright, sound events I'm at
[01:27] <PinTo> could u give me a quick walkthrough
[01:27] <Mabus06> lightbright, but none of them play when I click play
[01:27] <navarone> lightbright> he may be off to looka  t athread I sent him about the problem
[01:27] <PinTo> just a brief 1
[01:27] <lightbright> Mabus06: then click on any wav file and chose PLAY!  do you hear anything?
[01:27] <PinTo> plz
[01:27] <lightbright> navarone: ok
[01:27] <sethk> PinTo, cd 5.10 binary, 5.10 update source, 5.10 updates binary, 5.10 "breezy badger" source, 5.10 "breezy badger" binary, 5.10 security source, and 5.10 security binary
[01:28] <navarone> mabus> you get pm?
[01:28] <lightbright> just trying to help :)
[01:28] <sethk> PinTo, if you don't have all of them, use the add repository button until you do
[01:28] <Mabus06> lightbright, no it does not play
[01:28] <PinTo> right thnx
[01:28] <Mabus06> navarone, yes, checking what you said too.... multitasking
[01:28] <varsendagger> hey how can you find out what brand you cd rom is?
[01:28] <CArenas2> can someone help me with a package upgrade problem?
[01:28] <sethk> PinTo, sometimes you have to add the source ones slightly indirectly
[01:28] <lightbright> Mabus06: do you have enabled Enable sound Server as startup?
[01:28] <PinTo> ok
[01:28] <sethk> PinTo,  for example, if your menu shows 5.10 updates binary.   Under Default Sound Card, what does it say?
[01:29] <sethk> PinTo, because you won't find any of the "source" varieties on the add menu
[01:29] <sethk> PinTo, that's not obvious, you would think they would be on the add menu
[01:30] <PinTo> ok
[01:30] <Mabus06> lightbright, it used to say my intel onboard, but I changed it to my PCI before coming here for help
[01:30] <PinTo> i'll check it out
[01:30] <lightbright> navarone: may I ask you something about Terminal?
[01:30] <lightbright> Mabus06:  click on right drop down menu!  what does it offer you?
[01:31] <sethk> PinTo, hopefully that's not too confusing; it's harder to explain than to actually do
[01:31] <Mabus06> lightbright, my pci and my onboard... as I said I already switched it to my pci (what I want to use but won't let me)
[01:31] <kafffe> driver to emu 0404 sound card does it exsist??
[01:32] <lightbright> Mabus06: try the other one then
[01:32] <pistolero> someone can tell me what is the command in the keyboard to leave the X mode?
[01:32] <fletch33> anyone help with the server for freenx when i type "/usr/NX/bin/nxserver -start"  terminal syay no such file or directory. ireally need this to work and my client is fine
[01:33] <tck> lightbright, ctrl+alt+F1-F6
[01:33] <Mabus06> lightbright, that's what it was at by default... what does that solve? that's my onboard audio, which worked before but I want my sound card to work
[01:33] <lightbright> pistolero: ctrl+alt+F2
[01:33] <pistolero> lightbright,
[01:33] <pistolero> nao
[01:33] <pistolero> no
[01:33] <lightbright> Mabus06:  so you had sound before then?
[01:33] <Mabus06> lightbright, yes I did, with the onboard
[01:33] <tck> oh i meant to say pistolero hehe
[01:34] <lightbright> Mabus06: why fix something that is not broken :)
[01:34] <lightbright> tck: hehe ;)
[01:34] <lightbright> Hobbsee: hello again
[01:34] <sethk> Mabus06, Shutting off the onboard sound could help.  I've seen it work.  It  might convince the kernel to configure the modules it needs for the pci one
[01:34] <Hobbsee> hi lightbright
[01:35] <fletch33> my freenx client asks for a password to connect but i never set 1 up on the server
[01:35] <slide> Does the server install include gnome? If not, is it better to install server and then gnome, or the normal install and then whatever services i need?
[01:35] <mcadory> pistoler: in x you have to press ctrl and alt and F*.  once at a terminal just alt and F*.
[01:35] <lightbright> Mabus06: did you go into your BIOS and disable onbaord sound first?
[01:35] <Mabus06> nope
[01:35] <Mabus06> should I?
[01:35] <Mabus06> it's set to "auto"
[01:35] <cevizoglu> how do I add a location on my hard disk to sources.list?
[01:36] <sethk> Mabus06, we know, we want it set to "off"
[01:36] <Mabus06> okay well.... going to go disable onboard sound then
[01:36] <lightbright> sethk: yes good point indeed!  the onbaord is still activated and then ubuntu wants to use that only, but he chose something else, hence, no sound
[01:36] <cevizoglu> was sources.list designed to handle a configuration like that?
[01:36] <lightbright> Mabus06:  you did disable the onboard sound in your BIOS didnt you? :)
[01:36] <cevizoglu> nm, I found it
[01:36] <sethk> lightbright, not always, but when they use the same IRQ that tends to happen, I've noticed.
[01:36] <GorillaFromBeyon> hello everyone
[01:36] <lightbright> sethk: yeah
[01:36] <BadMackTuck> YO GORILLA
[01:37] <fletch33> how do i find or setup my username or password on my freenx server
[01:37] <BadMackTuck> damn caps
[01:37] <tarheelcoxn> cevizoglu: what's the line you added?
[01:37] <lightbright> GorillaFromBeyon: hello King Kong
[01:38] <cevizoglu> tarheelcoxn: hold on..
[01:39] <GorillaFromBeyon> maybe some of you can help me, I managed to install my ubuntu 5.10 on an ancient machine with faulty cdplayer, using the "server" option and after a few attempts I actually completed the process. Is there a sort of automatic way now to "switch" to a full installation from the console ? (I hope the question is not extremely dumb and please forgive my english)
[01:39] <gdgani> where can i get more recent kernel packages for ubuntu ?
[01:39] <lightbright> gdgani: use aptitude
[01:40] <cevizoglu> tarheelcoxn: file:/home/jason/debian stable main contrib non-free
[01:40] <Mabus06> lightbright, sethk.... disabled
[01:40] <sethk> GorillaFromBeyon, if you don't want a server, then installing a server is not a good thing to do
[01:40] <Mabus06> sound still doesn't work
[01:40] <tarheelcoxn> GorillaFromBeyon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <sethk> GorillaFromBeyon, do expert and install a minimal system, then install more
[01:40] <gdgani> lightbright...i need kernel verstion at least 2.6.13
[01:40] <sethk> Mabus06, it was worth a try, anyway.
[01:40] <GorillaFromBeyon> i used the server option because it was indicated as the "minimal installation"
[01:40] <sethk> Mabus06, check the mixer again, if you haven't (yet)
[01:40] <lightbright> gdgani: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[01:40] <lightbright> gdgani: why?
[01:40] <Mabus06> sethk, what mixer?
[01:40] <rokaholic> does apt have something like portage's emerge --inject/ packages.provided file?
[01:40] <gdgani> notebook problems
[01:40] <sethk> Mabus06, you call it the volume control I think
[01:41] <gdgani> turion chip with ati xpress200 chipset..
[01:41] <gdgani> my system clock ist 2 times faster
[01:41] <lightbright> Mabus06:  go back into Sound and chose your right card now
[01:41] <rokaholic> i installed a package from source and i want apt-get to view it as a viable dependency
[01:41] <sethk> kmix is the one I prefer, but there is also xmix, etc.
[01:41] <lightbright> Mabus06: chose System/preferences/Sound and then chose General! Under Default Sound Card, what does it say now?
[01:41] <tarheelcoxn> sethk: I was under the impression that the "server" install was just the normal install without the "ubuntu-desktop" set of packages
[01:41] <gdgani> only newer kernels fixes the proble without needing to disabled apic
[01:41] <Mabus06> already did that lightbright
[01:41] <Mabus06> lightbright, it was blank by default but I changed it back to the pci card
[01:41] <lightbright> Mabus06:  enable sound server at startup?
[01:42] <lightbright> Mabus06:  ok chose also enable sound server at startup , and try a reboot
[01:42] <Mabus06> lightbright, it was already set to checked
[01:42] <GlobeCoder> Seveas, its about 80% done
[01:42] <lightbright> Mabus06: what card is it?
[01:42] <nickrud> rokaholic, look at equivs, that should suit your purposes
[01:42] <lightbright> Mabus06:  is the card properly seated in the system unit?
[01:43] <Mabus06>  C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, we've done all the easy things, now you have a real problem to deal with
[01:43] <Mabus06> i believe so, lightbright, as it shows up in lspci
[01:43] <lightbright> Mabus06:  is the speakers in the right plug. I know you said yes before, but doulbe check :P
[01:43] <DShepherd> lightbright: sudo apt-get install linux-686 <-- does this depend on your processor?
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, you might try a modprobe
[01:43] <Mabus06> lightbright, the green one, yeah
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, remember, showing up in lspci means NOTHING
[01:43] <rokaholic> nickrud:  where is that?
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, I explained that to you.
[01:43] <tarheelcoxn> sethk: am I wrong? what's the difference between the normal install and the server install if not the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[01:43] <admrl> does anyone use the ubuntu plf repos
[01:43] <sethk> Mabus06, it just means the card is there.  :)
[01:43] <Mabus06> sethk, well it means it's plugged in at least?
[01:44] <Mabus06> sethk, that was the question
[01:44] <nickrud> rokaholic, it's a package, apt-cache show equivs will give you the basics
[01:44] <admrl> i was using them for the win32 codecs
[01:44] <sethk> Mabus06, well, at least part way.  I know, I was joking.  :)
[01:44] <rokaholic> nickrud: thanks
[01:44] <GorillaFromBeyon> so I could go to "not installed packages" on aptitude and install them, is it that simple ?
[01:44] <admrl> but then i saw the enemy territory does anyone know if thats included in the ubuntu plf repos yet
[01:44] <sethk> tarheelcoxn, there is also stuff installed for the server that is skipped for the desktop
[01:44] <lightbright> Mabus06: have you every heard sound at all with that card before on other OS's?
[01:44] <Mabus06> so what about modprobe, sethk ?
[01:44] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: server option was fine, what processor and how much RAM do you have?
[01:45] <Mabus06> lightbright, yes, I even had it working with ubuntu on my last install
[01:45] <sethk> tarheelcoxn, but what I meant is that you don't have the correct foundation and you open yourself up to any glitches in the package manager.  There may not be any, but there are almost always glitches everywhere
[01:45] <nickrud> rokaholic, but, the better choice might be to turn the source into a package
[01:45] <GorillaFromBeyon> that is an AMD K6 and i have 64 megs of ram
[01:45] <lightbright> Mabus06:  so its worked before on ubuntu and all of a sudden it stopped working?
[01:45] <DShepherd> lightbright: sudo apt-get install linux-686 <-- does this depend on your processor?
[01:45] <lightbright> DShepherd: what processor do you have?
[01:45] <sethk> Mabus06, see if doing modprobe makes the kernel install any additional modules.  It's unlikely, but you should try it before moving on to more extreme measures
[01:45] <Mabus06> lightbright, well, it's spent time in another comp, and this comp has reinstalled ubuntu a few times
[01:45] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: hm, gnome will be a bit heavy for that
[01:45] <GorillaFromBeyon> i know
[01:45] <DShepherd> lightbright: avoiding my question are you?
[01:45] <sethk> DShepherd, 686 is for 686 processors (duh)
[01:45] <Mabus06> sethk, what do I do for a modprobe? :S
[01:46] <DShepherd> sethk: duh DShepherd
[01:46] <sethk> Mabus06, just try a modeprobe *
[01:46] <lightbright> Mabus06:  had it ever worked under Ubuntu before is what I was wondering
[01:46] <sethk> DShepherd, :)
[01:46] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: i'd give xubuntu-desktop a go  - "aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:46] <lightbright> DShepherd: I cant help a man who knows it all :)
[01:46] <Mabus06> FATAL: Module 9_4.py~ not found.
[01:46] <sethk> DShepherd, actually, 686 or higher, to be more exact
[01:46] <GorillaFromBeyon> trying that now
[01:46] <lightbright> bimberi:  hello my dear friend :)
[01:46] <DShepherd> lightbright: that's why you are helping me
[01:46] <CArenas2> can someone help me with linux-image upgrade problem using apt-get?
[01:46] <lightbright> DShepherd: yes out of mercy and pity :)
[01:46] <sethk> Mabus06, that's odd.  Something is odd with your install
[01:46] <bimberi> lightbright: hi there, well how are you? :)
[01:47] <DShepherd> lightbright: :D
[01:47] <DShepherd> :-D
[01:47] <lightbright> DShepherd: but I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> one thing though, during the installation it didnt ask me for the root password
[01:47] <lightbright> bimberi:  im terrific :)
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> why is that ? is there a default one ?
[01:47] <Mabus06> !rootsudo
[01:47] <ubotu> well, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:47] <B_166-ER-X> how can i know the model of a soundcard on ubuntu ?
[01:47] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: no, it's disabled, see the link ^^^^^
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> going there
[01:47] <GorillaFromBeyon> thanks
[01:47] <lightbright> B_166-ER-X: open your system unit
[01:48] <Mabus06> bimberi, well... not DISabled
[01:48] <DShepherd> how can I find out what processor I have.. I know is AMD. i think it is k7
[01:48] <HansZwolle> cat /proc/cpu
[01:48] <HansZwolle> or cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:48] <nickrud> DShepherd, try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:48] <B_166-ER-X> lightbright ??
[01:48] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok sorry i should have checked before
[01:48] <Zedugh> DSheperd, what OS are you running on rite now?
[01:48] <DShepherd> now.. windows. but I am ubunut minded..
[01:48] <bimberi> Mabus06: root is there, you just can't log into it -> disabled no?
[01:48] <DShepherd> ubuntu*
[01:48] <lightbright> Mabus06: all padentics
[01:48] <lightbright> DShepherd: open your system unit :)
[01:49] <Mabus06> bimberi, yes you can
[01:49] <Mabus06> lightbright, all padentics?
[01:49] <lightbright> B_166-ER-X: open your system unit and look at the side of it and it will have brand name etc
[01:49] <admrl> can anyone help me with the ubuntu plf repositorys..?
[01:49] <navarone> mabus> try  "sudo modprobe emuk10k1"  and see what errors
[01:49] <lightbright> Mabus06:  yes indeed for bimberi is correct :)
[01:49] <bimberi> Mabus06: alright, you can sudo into a root login shell - pedantics indeed :)
[01:49] <lightbright> Mabus06: root is indeed "disabled" :)
[01:49] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok im installing xubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <lightbright> bimberi:  indeed :)
[01:50] <Mabus06> lightbright, I'm telling you, it's not disabled. I have a root password.
[01:50] <akonkwa> Hi everyone
[01:50] <lightbright> Mabus06: I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)
[01:50] <bimberi> Mabus06: disabled initially then (sheesh!)
[01:50] <Mabus06> lightbright... maybe if you're doing the windows-style basic ubuntu installation
[01:50] <Zedugh> DShepherd, try Start->Accessories->SystemTools->SystemInfo (something like that) or Start->ControlPanel->System
[01:50] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok it's installed (xubuntu-desktop)
[01:50] <lightbright> Mabus06: Truth is never dependent upon the consensus of opinion :)
[01:51] <HansZwolle> Windows-key + Break (pause) :P
[01:51] <Mabus06> lightbright, under expert install it isn't disabled
[01:51] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: wow! do you have the ubuntu archive server on your LAN? :)
[01:52] <lightbright> Mabus06: As I said, I won't argue with you, for it's obvious you have all the answers :)  you have 2 choices in life, always be "right" or be happy :)
[01:52] <akonkwa> Mabus06: you talking about the root account that's installed when doing the expert install?
[01:52] <Livore> hi
[01:52] <felipe> Hello, does anyone here uses FreeNX or No MachineNX?
[01:52] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi: no i am connected to the internet
[01:52] <Mabus06> akonkwa, yes
[01:52] <Livore> there is a deb of kernel 2.6.14?
[01:53] <akonkwa> Mabus06 : I had a problem with that, and I couldn't use sudo
[01:53] <GorillaFromBeyon> terrific ubuntu found my wireless card and asked me for my access point ssid and encryption and it actually worked and it's the first time ever on that pc with that card (with any other linux distro)
[01:53] <akonkwa> Mabus06: it's such a drag
[01:53] <Mabus06> akonkwa, I can still use sudo on my other accounts
[01:53] <lightbright> Mabus06: you can add add rw init=/bin/bash to the end of kernel to boot with root!  yet thats now what bimberi  and I were saying!  we used the word 'disable' as its a word used to describe the situation
[01:53] <Mabus06> akonkwa, make sure you edited the visudo thing
[01:53] <lightbright> Mabus06: dont confuse yourself :)
[01:54] <Mabus06> well regardless, anyone can help getting my audio card working? :D
[01:54] <Livore> I need to use a conexant access runner ADSL modem
[01:54] <akonkwa> Mabus06: Yeah , i didn't really know what I was doing, so someone in this chan had to walk mu through it, now i got rid of my root account
[01:54] <Livore> but it is supported in kernel 2.6.14
[01:54] <lightbright> Mabus06:  we know you can boot your system up to a passwordless root shell.  Yet the word "disabled" to describe that Ubuntu doesnt automatically have root by defaul, imho is accurate as bimberi described it :)
[01:54] <B_166-ER-X> is there a good bit torrent client NOT in java ? -or slowing my pc by 60%-
[01:55] <janopotter>  irc.cl
[01:55] <sethk> Mabus06, do you still have access to the ubuntu install that works with this sound hardware?
[01:55] <sethk> Mabus06, I'm thinking you could compare the kernel config and loaded modules
[01:55] <lightbright> Mabus06: well you know it all, you shouldnt need help with the sound card ;)
[01:55] <Livore> can someone help me?
[01:55] <lightbright> Mabus06:  only jk :)
[01:55] <lightbright> :)
[01:55] <sethk> BRB, have to run a quick errand
[01:55] <wickedpuppy> B_166-ER-X, agree with ya there .... azureus kick-ass but it eats up my sys resoruces
[01:55] <sethmahoney> Anyone in here by chance know of any good sites on programming in Python for X?
[01:55] <fletch33> i really need to find what my username amd password are for my freenx server because my client keeps asking for it. i dont understand where to get this info. please help
[01:56] <Mabus06> Well I don't think surviving through an expert install without my brain exploding constitutes knowing everything.
[01:56] <B_166-ER-X> i have Tornado... but it SO slows my pc..
[01:56] <AMDXP> yeah azureus does
[01:56] <d03boy> is there a command to see what version of ubuntu i'm running?
[01:56] <lightbright> Mabus06:  heeh ;)
[01:56] <lightbright> Mabus06:  im sure there is a simple explantion fgor your sound card
[01:56] <BadMackTuck> azureus is a beast on every os, but it does a good job
[01:57] <BadMackTuck> BYE
[01:57] <navarone> mabus> I did modprobe on myself and no output or errors...dunno if that is correct or not...lol
[01:57] <Mabus06> lightbright, fantastic.. if only someone could give it to me...
[01:57] <B_166-ER-X> is there...some other choices then Tornado or azureus ?
[01:57] <nickrud> d03boy, lsb_release -a
[01:57] <lightbright> Mabus06: yeah and I wish someone would give me the answer to Quantum Mechanics too :)
[01:57] <d03boy> hoary 5.04... am I up to date? :P
[01:57] <Zedugh> d03boy, in a term, type 'cat /etc/lsb-release'
[01:57] <Mabus06> lightbright, easy.... a, b, d, a, c, b, a, d
[01:57] <d03boy> or is breezy new?
[01:58] <wickedpuppy> d03boy, no .. there is a newer version
[01:58] <lightbright> Mabus06: and why perpetual motion is valid
[01:58] <wickedpuppy> yup ... breezy is 5.10
[01:58] <nickrud> d03boy, you could be, on hoary :)
[01:58] <lightbright> Mabus06: the day you can explain perpetual motion to me, is the day I will invest 48 hours into finding a solution for you :)
[01:58] <d03boy> does that mean I should update my sources.list or what?
[01:58] <fletch33> ok i am going to end my life because of freenx :). it is not free it iwll cost you your sanity
[01:59] <akonkwa> Could anyone help to install Limewire? I'm supposed to be able to add extra repositories so that I can install the JRE , but I don't know how to do this
[01:59] <nickrud> d03boy, you might want to, if you need newer software.
[01:59] <fletch33> akonkwa, use automatix
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> d03boy, you wish to update to latest version ?
[01:59] <nickrud> !tell d03boy about breezy
[01:59] <lightbright> akonkwa: im installing Limewire as we speak
[01:59] <fletch33> akonkwa, makes it easy
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, do not recommend automatix pls
[01:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[01:59] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, ok but why
[01:59] <d03boy> wickedpuppy, I'm not sure. Is it like Debian where the latest is unstable?
[01:59] <wickedpuppy> its been known to install things without knowing anything
[02:00] <Red-Sox> is there a Nintendo 64 emulator?
[02:00] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, k sorry
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> d03boy, debian unstable is stable ... LOL
[02:00] <lightbright> akonkwa: 1st step: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, one guy used automatix and got 300 mb of software ... lol
[02:00] <kevogod_> It's hard to play Nintendo 64 ROMs without a controller.
[02:00] <d03boy> wickedpuppy, that doesnt make a lot of sense, but OK! :D
[02:00] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, gotcha
[02:00] <akonkwa> lightbright: Ok I'll do that
[02:00] <CArenas2> i cannot upgrade linux-image package
[02:00] <nickrud> wickedpuppy, that is so true: 3 years, no reinstall with unstable, and a couple with ubuntu
[02:01] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, could u possibly helpme with my freenx
[02:01] <lightbright> akonkwa: im installing Limewire as we speak!  want to follow my steps with me?
[02:01] <akonkwa> lightbright: done
[02:01] <dlfg> in a gnome session using gnome terminal wheres the SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK get parsed from .. i don't see them in .bashrc .bashprofile or /etc/profile ?
[02:01] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, i am going nutz
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, never experienced with it before :P sorry
[02:01] <lightbright> akonkwa: done?  wow how fast is your connection :P  im still downloading Java on my modem :P
[02:01] <CArenas2> i get a dpkg error re pre/post-removal scripts not running ("Permission denied")
[02:02] <Mabus06> lightbright, should I reinstall ubuntu maybe? my home directory is it's own partition anyway
[02:02] <lightbright> CArenas2: use sudo?
[02:02] <CArenas2> can someone PLEASE point me in the right direction
[02:02] <akonkwa> lightbright: it's an average connection, i use cable
[02:02] <Red-Sox> is there a window manager that looks like os x?
[02:02] <CArenas2> lightbrigt: yes using sudo
[02:02] <fletch33> wickedpuppy, no prob. well i have a desktop that i just keep running to constantly download and upload stuff and play movies to my tv from but i need to be able to control it from my laptop what do you recommend
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, ssh ...
[02:02] <lightbright> Mabus06: I think many prefer to have /home on sepeare partition!  Yet I have mine on same because its easy when I use rsync to make a mirror backup unto my hdb
[02:02] <CArenas2> lightbright: i have posted output (http://channels.debian.net/paste/1164)
[02:02] <akonkwa> lightbright: oops, when I look closely , I see this No candidate version found for j2re1.4
[02:02] <Ron_o> CArenas2: possibly try running as root: sudo -s  ???
[02:03] <Ron_o> that worked for me setting up my printer.
[02:03] <lightbright> akonkwa: ok Java is done!  now download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it
[02:03] <Ron_o> sudo didn't cut it for some reason.
[02:03] <fletch33> wickedpuppy,  is that like remote desktop from windiws because that is what i used before i switched over and i really need that control back
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> CArenas2, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:03] <akonkwa> lightbright: oops, when I look closely , I see this No candidate version found for j2re1.4
[02:03] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico! Can anyone tell me how to overhaul my eth0 interface?
[02:03] <LoneWolf071> how do i specify what services i want to boot up with my computer, in BASH?
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> fletch33, ssh would be something like secure telnet ... command line .. you know commands right ? great
[02:03] <lightbright> CArenas2: sorry I cant load any webpages atm cause im downloading using modem something
[02:04] <akonkwa> lightbright: maybe that's why it went so fast
[02:04] <Ron_o> LoneWolf071: administration > services.
[02:04] <lightbright> CArenas2:  can you ask someone else, hoefully someone who knows more than me :)
[02:04] <fletch33> wickedpuppy,  no but i get your point thanks
[02:04] <LoneWolf071> Ron_o, In bash
[02:04] <lightbright> akonkwa: ok well use the command I am usin
[02:04] <Ron_o> oh, I can't help there. :)
[02:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: Zedugh I have an AMD Athlon XP 2000+
[02:04] <lightbright> akonkwa: 1st step: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[02:04] <LoneWolf071> lgc, welcome to ubuntu... what do you want to do with your etrh0?
[02:04] <DShepherd> lightbright: Zedugh sudo aptitude install linux-k7?
[02:05] <CArenas2> lightbright: thx, will do  :-)
[02:05] <lightbright> DShepherd: im not qualified to answer that sorry
[02:05] <CArenas2> wickedpuppy: same result
[02:05] <lightbright> CArenas2: all the best :)
[02:05] <akonkwa> lightbright: It says ".... Initializing package states... Done
[02:05] <akonkwa> No candidate version found for j2re1.4
[02:05] <akonkwa> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:05] <akonkwa> many packages here
[02:05] <lightbright> akonkwa: is that installing ok?
[02:05] <nickrud> DShepherd, you want the K7 for AMD, yes
[02:05] <CArenas2> first line of output = dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[02:05] <lgc> LoneWolf071, I can't get anything through it, though the "local network" light from the modem is on
[02:06] <DShepherd> lightbright: Zedugh <offtopic>Aida32 on windows is a nice program for getting system info</offtopic>
[02:06] <lightbright> akonkwa:  so it installed ok?
[02:06] <DShepherd> nickrud: thanks
[02:06] <GorillaFromBeyon> i feel stupid, i can't get to install x11 through aptitude with the console (server installation)
[02:06] <bimberi> akonkwa: ensure multiverse repositories are enabled
[02:06] <DShepherd> nickrud: are there any obvious improvements?
[02:06] <lightbright> DShepherd: ok thanks
[02:07] <GorillaFromBeyon> it tells me "no packages are scheduled to be installed, remove or upgraded" after I chose the install option for the x11 package
[02:07] <nickrud> CArenas2, I'd start by looking at the files related to linux-image in /var/lib/dpkg
[02:07] <akonkwa> bimberi : How do I do that?
[02:07] <lightbright> GorillaFromBeyon: dont feel stupid, we all learn and that doesnt mean we are all stupid
[02:07] <Mabus06> !paste
[02:07] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:07] <DShepherd> nickrud: and if I install with it will I need to reinstall build-essentials? wil some programs break?
[02:07] <LoneWolf071> Ron_o, also, the service menu in GNOME doesn't have nessus on it, how do i add that?
[02:07] <dlfg> LoneWolf071: update-rc.d
[02:07] <DShepherd> lightbright: no problem
[02:07] <nickrud> DShepherd, I've been told it is awe inspiring, and it's pedestrian :)
[02:07] <lightbright> akonkwa: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:07] <Phoul> Where in ubuntu is htdocs located for apache?
[02:08] <nickrud> DShepherd, no, everything else is just fine; the new kernel slides in under everything else seamlessly
[02:08] <Mabus06> This is my aplay -l returns output (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4959) can anyone spot any problems? that's the device I want to use but it won't play
[02:08] <bimberi> akonkwa: ok, another approach.  Applications -> Add Applications -> Internet -> More Programs... -> Java Web Start 1.4
[02:08] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok thanks
[02:08] <mulder> is there a gui nat tool for ubuntu?
[02:08] <mulder> or qos
[02:08] <nickrud> DShepherd, except, you'd need different restricted-modules, and if you compiled a winmodem, you'll need to redo that.
[02:09] <DShepherd> nickrud: yup... I know that....:( *remembers to 2 months ago
[02:09] <lightbright> bimberi:  is that way the same as doing: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4 ?
[02:09] <GorillaFromBeyon> it tells me "no packages are scheduled to be installed, remove or upgraded" after I chose the install option for the x11 package
[02:09] <lightbright> bimberi:  or is your way easier and better?
[02:09] <GorillaFromBeyon> how do i "schedule" them to be installed
[02:09] <GorillaFromBeyon> so that when i press "g" it actually installs them ?
[02:09] <Ron_o> lonewolff: I can't help you much on that. Did you try to download BUM?
[02:10] <bimberi> lightbright: yes, and will enable repositories if required
[02:10] <Ron_o> sudo apt-get bum
[02:10] <Ron_o> bum: boot up manager.
[02:10] <lightbright> bimberi:  ah I should have done it that way then!  im using sudo aptitude install j2re1.4 atm and its 70% done.  shall I let it finish or stop and do it your way you think?
[02:11] <bimberi> lightbright: leave it, the results should be identical :)
[02:11] <GorillaFromBeyon> ok doing it
[02:11] <lightbright> bimberi:  ok great!  because on my modem its taken ages to get to 70% :P
[02:11] <lgc> Can anyone help me with my eth0 link?
[02:12] <ioboss> hi.. i have a ati videoboard... i have installed driver from website.. but i see file rm not well
[02:12] <Mabus06> lightbright, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4959
[02:12] <Mabus06> see anything wrong with that?
[02:12] <GorillaFromBeyon> i thought "g" was the option to install them (AND select them) while if i get it right now, i should have used "+" to select them
[02:12] <Zedugh> lgc, what's wrong with your eth0 link?
[02:12] <ioboss> the stream don't go fast..
[02:12] <navarone> Mabus> my output list device 0 to 3
[02:13] <akonkwa> bimberi: Ok, I have java ... what is the next step?
[02:13] <pepsi1> i would like to find some more bitmapped monospace fonts
[02:13] <pepsi1> how can i go about doing that?
[02:13] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[02:13] <funkyHat> anyone else having trouble with the breezy repos?
[02:13] <lgc> Zedugh, I can't get it working (I'm on eth1 now, but it has the bad habit of going down in a while
[02:13] <foxgamer> Hi all. Every now and then, when I reboot my computer, I get a kernel compile error (fresh install three days ago). Is this something serious does anyone know?
[02:13] <Livore> is there a deb for kernel 2.6.14?
[02:13] <RedRose> is there anyway, client side, to enable color on SSH?
[02:14] <lightbright> DShepherd: Sorry, I'm not qualified to answer that
[02:14] <mulder> Livore, in unstable possibly.
[02:14] <RedRose> lgc:Eth0 help, right?
[02:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[02:14] <bur[n] er> RedRose: ls --color
[02:14] <tuxedo_kamen> i am not sure if anyone can help me, but... I need to create a script file, which performs a certain set of terminal operations, how can I create one?
[02:14] <lightbright> funkyHat: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:15] <RedRose> is there a way to specify it by default?
[02:15] <lightbright> funkyHat: use those repos
[02:15] <lgc> RedRose, right
[02:15] <RedRose> look in the tabs for my chat invite
[02:15] <CArenas2> nickrud: no such images for new linux-image package
[02:15] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: create a script
[02:15] <foxgamer> Also, does anyone know of a program that can check the integrity of the hard drive?
[02:15] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: which package are you installing?
[02:15] <bur[n] er> RedRose: alias ls='ls --color'
[02:15] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, I don't know how... I want to create something like the *.bat files for windows...
[02:15] <funkyHat> lightbright, it's all good now
[02:15] <bur[n] er> foxgamer: e2fsk ??
[02:15] <funkyHat> lightbright, just had an odd error with the keys
[02:16] <bur[n] er> foxgamer: otherwise I use "Bart's stuff test" on a windows PE cd ;)
[02:16] <TokenBad> friend installed ubuntu but he has an ati card...and says the video flickers
[02:16] <folki> hi all...can anybody help me...i need some good and especially qiuck images viewer...
[02:16] <TokenBad> is there a way to fix it?
[02:16] <foxgamer> Ah yes! I remember that. Thanks bur[n] er
[02:16] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, im istalling x11 right now
[02:16] <folki> quick*
[02:16] <bur[n] er> folki: gqview
[02:16] <lightbright> funkyHat:  awesome :)
[02:16] <navarone> folki> try gthumb
[02:16] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: k :)
[02:16] <GorillaFromBeyon> and upgrading all the rest
[02:16] <RedRose> bur[n] er:It gives me an error ... how do i make it accept input?
[02:16] <bur[n] er> gqview is faster than gthumb
[02:16] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: ok open a blank text file
[02:16] <tuxedo_kamen> just did
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> I write the commands in there
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> and then what?
[02:17] <Steil> tuxedo_kamen: You want to open a text editor then toss  #!/bin/bash at the top, all your commands after, then chmod +x <filename>
[02:17] <folki> do u know irfanview under Windows? I would somethink similar if it is possible
[02:17] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: you got a clean empty text file open ready to write text?
[02:17] <nickrud> CArenas2, you mean, no post or pre install files under info? (I'm kinda in the dark here: I've been in this dir for broken packages in unstable, but I'm not real knowledgable)
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> yep, I do
[02:17] <Zedugh> foxgamer, do you mean the integrity of a filesystem, or the reliability of the disk hardware? for i/o errors: 'man badblocks'
[02:17] <horacio> gusl
[02:17] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  relax, 1 step at a time, fair? :)
[02:17] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:17] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  ok :) now the first line should be:  #!/bin/sh
[02:18] <foxgamer> Zedugh, I don't know exactly where the problem lies, but with bur[n] er's suggestion and yours, I may be able to find out.
[02:18] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:18] <folki> thnaks
[02:18] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: under that you can write for example: aptitude update  and on next line aptitude upgrade
[02:18] <folki> thanks*
[02:18] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  etc etc
[02:18] <TokenBad> anyone know about how to fix flicker with ati video cards?
[02:18] <PinTo> n e 1 know where i can repositorys from
[02:18] <RedRose> lgc:go you see the private chat tab?
[02:18] <CArenas2> nickrud: correct - no pre or post install files for package
[02:18] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  tell me when you done all that and I will tell you the next step needed, ok?
[02:18] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, you mean, my comands?
[02:19] <lgc> RedRose I am there a while ago.
[02:19] <RedRose> bur[n] er:it's ls -G not ls --color
[02:19] <nickrud> CArenas2, then, what about permission's on the dir?
[02:19] <PinTo> sethk i only 3 repositories
[02:19] <PinTo> still cant find what i need
[02:19] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  Under the first line:  #!/bin/sh   you can write your commands you want!  for me, I have sudo aptitude update
[02:19] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  yes your commands
[02:19] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  tell me when you done all that and I will tell you the next step needed
[02:21] <sethk> PinTo, did you add the others?
[02:21] <sethk> PinTo, you won't see additional stuff without adding
[02:21] <CArenas2> nickrud: of /var/lib/dpkg? 0755
[02:21] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, I just did
[02:22] <akonkwa> ubotu: when I run "runLime" , i only see the terminal appear for a second, and then it dissapears
[02:22] <ubotu> akonkwa: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:22] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright , what next?
[02:22] <mulder> anyone know why my ntfs partition is mounted rw, but is still only read only? i'm using a factory install of breezy
[02:22] <CArenas2> nickrud: but apt-get has worked fine all along until these packages
[02:22] <nickrud> CArenas2, then, we're rapidly approaching the limits of my knowledge; does any other package have this problem
[02:22] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: save it
[02:22] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  name it something easy to remember, no extension
[02:23] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: save it in your /home/user folder
[02:23] <CArenas2> nickrud: yes, 3 -- linux-image, linux-restricted-modules-common, language-selector
[02:23] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:23] <tuxedo_kamen> what next?
[02:23] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: open Terminal
[02:23] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  and Terminal should open in /home/user
[02:24] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:24] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: type ls -lh to make sure its there
[02:24] <PinTo> sethk yeah i added security update .and source update
[02:24] <akonkwa> I am desperatlet trying to install java
[02:24] <akonkwa> can anyone help me?
[02:24] <Livore> mulder: debian unstable?
[02:24] <sethk> PinTo, but you said you have 3, and I told you that you need seven
[02:25] <PinTo> breezy
[02:25] <sethk> akonkwa, are you talking about java in the web browser, or standalone java?
[02:25] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  do you see the file?
[02:25] <PinTo> yeah i dont have the other 4
[02:25] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats it called?
[02:25] <tuxedo_kamen> wait, I take some time as I am working remotely, by using ssh! >_<
[02:25] <lightbright> akonkwa: I told you to do as I am doing
[02:25] <psusi> when I select the libpt-plugin packages to be upgraded in synaptic, it says it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop... why on earth would it want to remove ubuntu-desktop ot upgrade the libpt packages?
[02:25] <PinTo> where abouts can i get them sethk?
[02:25] <mulder> Livore, yeah
[02:25] <nickrud> CArenas2, do you have breezy-backports enabled?
[02:26] <PinTo> i have no internet connection so i'll have to rip them to CD
[02:26] <lightbright> akonkwa: maybe try to remove and reinstall?
[02:26] <CArenas2> nickrud: no
[02:26] <akonkwa> lightbright: could you repeat the steps?
[02:26] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: use Terminal
[02:26] <nickrud> heh, a last stab, a bad package :)
[02:26] <akonkwa> sthk: stand alone java
[02:26] <kwtm2> Hi!  How do use sudo I redirect std output to a file accessible only to root?  Eg: if I say "sudo ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results", it fails because I, a non-root user, don't have permission to write the output of "sudo ls /etc/*" to the file /etc/ls_results; what I want is to execute the command "ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results" as the superuser (root).
[02:26] <sethk> PinTo, then, as an alternative you can download the .deb file for ncurses and install it with dpkg
[02:26] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, I can't, I haven't got ubuntu in this computer ! >_>
[02:27] <PinTo> i installed ncurses but i need libncureses.devl
[02:27] <lightbright> akonkwa: try sudo apt-get --purge remove j2re1.4
[02:27] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: What???
[02:27] <PinTo> make xconfig just doesnt want to work
[02:27] <psusi> kwtm2, try enclosing the entire ls xx > foo command in single quotes
[02:27] <nelkael81> you nnow an italian server for ubuntu ???
[02:27] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  come back message me when you are on Ubuntu next time then :P lol
[02:27] <nickrud> kwtm2, I've seen someone using sudo ls  ... | sudo tee, or something like that for echoing to a file
[02:27] <akonkwa> lightbright: ok, done that. what should I do next?
[02:27] <PinTo> when i try make menuconfig i need libncurses.devl
[02:27] <lightbright> akonkwa: try sudo apt-get --purge remove j2re1.4  and then reinstall, worth a try?
[02:28] <akonkwa> lightbright: ok, done that. what should I do next?
[02:28] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, ok, next time I'll try being at home! :P
[02:28] <lightbright> akonkwa: type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:28] <PinTo> i suppose i can use either 1
[02:28] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  great :)
[02:28] <kwtm2> psusi: Enclosing the command doesn't work, because the computer complains that there is no such command as "ls /etc/* >/etc/ls_results".
[02:28] <lightbright> akonkwa: whats it say now?
[02:28] <kwtm2> nickrud: Hmm, that idea seems promising.  I'll look into that.
[02:28] <lightbright> akonkwa: did you try bimberi's way?
[02:29] <nickrud>  echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules kwtm2 here's an example
[02:29] <akonkwa> lightbright: it says:ackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:29] <akonkwa> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:29] <akonkwa> is only available from another source
[02:29] <akonkwa> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> akonkwa, pls don't paste here ..
[02:29] <Mabus06> can anyone help me with getting my sound card to work please????
[02:29] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: all you then needed to do was to change it to "x" execute and ru  it by ./filename
[02:29] <PinTo> alz i need do is build a kernel
[02:29] <akonkwa> wickedpuppy: sorry
[02:30] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen:  easy :)  same as bat file
[02:30] <crimsun> mirrormax.net does not host ubp any longer
[02:30] <lightbright> akonkwa: use these repos from here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:30] <lightbright> akonkwa:  then update
[02:30] <Graider> Whomever's in charge of what's included in a default Ubuntu install, add xfe (file manager), it makes things a lot less scary for the Windows convert!
[02:31] <lightbright> Mabus06:  use your onboard one :)
[02:31] <kwtm2> nickrud:  I'll first try "sudo ls /etc/* | sudo cat >/etc/ls_results" ...
[02:31] <akonkwa> lightbright: even if I have hoary?
[02:31] <lightbright> Mabus06:  did you change your dip switches on the card?
[02:31] <Mabus06> lightbright, but my sound is being super crappy when playing Doom3... I figure if I have my sound card do it it would be better
[02:31] <Mabus06> lightbright, dip switches?
[02:31] <lightbright> akonkwa: what?  you said you using breezy
[02:31] <akonkwa> lightbrihgt: never saisd that
[02:31] <lightbright> Mabus06: so all this effort for quake? :P
[02:31] <akonkwa> lightbright: I'm using hoary
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> Graider, mail to the mailing list or go to #ubuntu-devel
[02:32] <nickrud> kwtm2, you can't pipe to sudo, I tried that one myself :)
[02:32] <Mabus06> Doom3, lightbright
[02:32] <lightbright> Mabus06:  Quake will sound crappy with the other card too, because of low frame rates
[02:32] <lightbright> Mabus06:  Doom sorry
[02:32] <lightbright> Mabus06: what is the name of your sound card?
[02:32] <Mabus06> how do I fix that, lightbright ?
[02:33] <Mabus06> [C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6]
[02:33] <lightbright> Mabus06: get a new fresh fast graphics card and your sound will be smoother too
[02:33] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbrith --> bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: Permission denied <-- i get this error
[02:33] <Mabus06> lightbright, I'm using onboard video... :(
[02:33] <akonkwa> lightbright: So what should I do if I'm using Hoary?
[02:33] <lightbright> Mabus06:  and try using google and type something like "ubuntu" +CMI8738-MC6
[02:33] <lightbright> Mabus06:  disable it and install a new one!
[02:34] <lightbright> Mabus06:  onboard video cards are not good for Doom etc
[02:34] <psusi> kwtm2, this works for me: sudo bash -c  'ls > /etc/foo'
[02:34] <lightbright> Mabus06:  cheap no frills stuff
[02:34] <slide> Does anyone know how to get adobe photoshop cs2 installed with wine?
[02:34] <kwtm2> nickrud: so how does "echo blabla | sudo tee bla bla" work?
[02:34] <lightbright> akonkwa: update to breezy :)
[02:34] <Mabus06> lightbright, I already managed to bork my geforce FX 5500 trying to install it on linux. Now it wont work on windows
[02:34] <Mabus06> lightbright, but my video works just fine onboard... no lag at all except for sound in game play
[02:34] <lightbright> slide: did you check the wine website to make sure adobe photoshop cs2 works woith Wine?
[02:35] <kwtm2> psusi: hmm... good idea.  I just wish we didn't have to use bash (since that will negate any security ... might as well just log in as root to do it).  I'll go with your method, though
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, paste the script along with the permission on the pastebin
[02:35] <slide> lightbright, nop
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> Mabus06, i am using the same card ... works like a charm here
[02:35] <psusi> kwtm2, how does it negate security?
[02:35] <lightbright> slide: maybe check that first
[02:35] <Mabus06> wickedpuppy, stop bragging :P
[02:35] <lightbright> wickedpuppy: maybe you can tell him your config
[02:35] <Mabus06> no no no you guys are barking down a dead path ;)
[02:35] <Mabus06> the card is finished. done.
[02:35] <Mabus06> won't even get recognised by lspci anymore
[02:36] <bimberi> akonkwa: download the j2re deb for hoary from here - http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ and install using dpkg
[02:36] <akonkwa> bimberi thankx
[02:36] <bimberi> akonkwa: np :)
[02:36] <lgc> Can anyone help me with my eth0 interface?
[02:37] <Mabus06> can anybody please help me with my audio? I don't know how to get my PCI card to work
[02:37] <bimberi> akonkwa: although you should make sure it works first :)
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> lgc, what about your eth0 ?
[02:37] <akonkwa> bimberi :)
[02:37] <Kerr> ugh.
[02:37] <tuxedo_kamen> wickedpuppy, here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4960
[02:37] <nickrud> kwtm2, I was hoping you'd let me slide :) I'm not sure, just seen it used by the guru's when they're here
[02:37] <nature22> last night somone sent me the link for the deb package of java. does anyone still have it? I need it again.
[02:37] <Mabus06> lightbright, isn't there something I have to do after plugging in the card to get it to work? nobody has really suggested I do anything, I find it suprising that nobody has given me advice on drivers to install or something after putting the card in and booting up
[02:37] <akonkwa> bimberi: do you know how I can update to breezy? and is it long and complicated?
[02:38] <Kerr> both of the breezy cd's i've tried fail to install.. debootstrap errors of some sort.. ~.~
[02:38] <lightbright> Mabus06: ubuntu should pick it up
[02:38] <pixman>  akonkwa get hold of Easy Ubuntu
[02:38] <lgc> wickedpuppy, it can't get the connection through! (I'm on eth1 now).
[02:38] <bur[n] er> !UpgradeBreezy
[02:38] <ubotu> bur[n] er: Not a clue
[02:38] <Ryan15> im new to this thing
[02:38] <bur[n] er> !BreezyUpgrade
[02:38] <pixman> Easy Ubuntu updaets your sources.list
[02:38] <ubotu> somebody said breezyupgrade was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:38] <pixman> to breezy
[02:38] <Ryan15> how do you get to other chat
[02:38] <Ryan15> chats*
[02:38] <bimberi> akonkwa: no, see that breezyupgrade link above
[02:38] <ghostpsalm> is there a terminal command to burna  folder to a cd?
[02:38] <lightbright> !ubotu tell Mabus06 about BreezyUpgrade
[02:38] <bur[n] er> Ryan15: xchat?   /join #channelname
[02:39] <ghostpsalm> !ubotu tell ghostpsalm about BreezyUpgrade
[02:39] <remyforbes777> is there a inetd file for ubuntu
[02:39] <kwtm2> psusi: Hmm... I guess I can't think of any reason why it would be worse than sudo.  Instinctively, it seems like a "but you can do anything!" command, but I guess that's what sudo is in the first place.
[02:39] <bur[n] er> ghostpsalm: /msg ubotu BreezyUpgrade   (no need to say it in the chan)
[02:40] <tuxedo_kamen> can anyone help me fix it, please? :|
[02:40] <PinTo> TTFN
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> lgc, ifconfig ?
[02:40] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: fix what?
[02:40] <remyforbes777> is there an inetd file for ubuntu
[02:40] <ghostpsalm> bur[n] er: Cheers, just seeing what it does - ubotu told me /msg anyhow.
[02:40] <Ryan15> it says enter channel's number?
[02:40] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I got it. What piece of info do you want?
[02:40] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, it doesn't work, see it here please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4960
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> lgc, can paste on the pastebin ?
[02:41] <nature22> thanks
[02:42] <lgc> wickedpuppy, sorry I'm new to this. Do you want me to paste the output to where?
[02:42] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: what doesnt work?
[02:42] <tuxedo_kamen> my script, stated there!
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> lgc, pastebin ... look at tuxedo_kamen line above
[02:42] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: you need to run it on Ubuntu :P
[02:42] <sethk> kwtm2, sudo can be configured to not allow every command.  That's why it is supposedly better.  People rarely bother to configure it that way, unfortunately.
[02:42] <Mabus06> lightbright, I already have breezy... :S
[02:42] <tuxedo_kamen> -_- that's what I am doing, I am running it by connecting to my house using SSH! :D
[02:42] <remyforbes777> is there a inetd file in ubuntu?
[02:42] <Kerr> I'm getting a base system installation cd with each of the breezy cds i got via shipit. 'the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)' .. at about 33%..
[02:42] <lightbright> Mabus06: yeah sorry was meant for someone else :)
[02:42] <Kerr> any idea what is going wrong?
[02:43] <frej> hmm dapper gconf seems broken or something.
[02:43] <frej> anyone having problems with gnome/metacity/panel ?
[02:43] <crimsun> remyforbes777: /etc/inetd.conf ?
[02:43] <remyforbes777> yeah
[02:43] <prometheus> hey all. how do I search the list of files using apt-get
[02:43] <crimsun> frej: works fine here.
[02:43] <remyforbes777> is there one in ubuntu?
[02:43] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats with line 8? --------------> permissions: 744 >?
[02:43] <frej> crimsun: how recent update?
[02:43] <remyforbes777> i cant freaking find it
[02:43] <Mabus06> bur[n] er, you've helped me a few times before, any idea how to get my sound card working? I put it in the PCI slot and booted the com but it won't play sounds
[02:43] <crimsun> remyforbes777: yes, I just looked.
[02:43] <remyforbes777> well shit
[02:43] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file?
[02:43] <nickrud> prometheus, just what are you trying to find out?
[02:43] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I opened the link, but it's something about java.
[02:43] <remyforbes777> why cant i find it on my box
[02:43] <themachine> how do I chmod an entire directory?
[02:44] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, you had asked me for the permissions, I hadn't got other place to write it, obviously that line isn't in the file itself! :P and the name is teste
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> lgc, yes ... i know .. left links ... make a new post
[02:44] <crimsun> frej: hmm, about an hour ago?
[02:44] <prometheus> nickrud: rather then using aptitude. search the list of available packages to to using command line
[02:44] <frej> ie, i lost most keybindings (window management) applets defaults are broken too.
[02:44] <crimsun> frej: probably closer to 2 hours.
[02:44] <frej> -ie,
[02:44] <bur[n] er> Mabus06: lsmod |grep snd
[02:44] <remyforbes777> im trying to open port 22 for ssh
[02:45] <nickrud> prometheus, apt-cache search  might do it; you can use aptitude search also
[02:45] <frej> My mirror was last updated about ~0:45
[02:45] <Zedugh> themachine, chmod -R (recursive option)
[02:45] <Kerr> when i try to isntall breezy, debconf has dependancy problems 'depends on debconf-i18n | debconf-english; however: ... both of the packages aren't installed :-/
[02:45] <prometheus> nickrud: so apt-cache search "filename"
[02:45] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I can't find such a tab on that page
[02:45] <prometheus> or rather package name
[02:45] <nickrud> prometheus, oh, find a file in a package: dpkg -S /path/to/filename
[02:45] <nickrud> prometheus, if the package is installed
[02:46] <prometheus> nickrud: sorry typing to fast. I mean if I wanted to search for all the irb packages ->  apt-cache search irb
[02:46] <ghostpsalm> If you want to unmount a drive/device - but the terminal says it is busy, what can you do?  No progs currently using it?
[02:46] <nickrud> prometheus, yes
[02:46] <remyforbes777> any idea where inetd could be at if I cant find it in etc
[02:46] <frej> how, can i figure out if gconf doesn't register default schema values?
[02:46] <prometheus> nickrud: great! thanks
[02:46] <kwtm2> ghostpsalm: try "lsof /dev/MyDevice" to see what programs are using it
[02:47] <nickrud> prometheus, you can also aptitude search ; you can use all the nice search terms that aptitude provides
[02:47] <bimberi> remyforbes777: if you install openssh-server you don't need to open any ports
[02:47] <lgc> wickedpuppy, Do you mean "click here to make a fresh posting"?
[02:47] <remyforbes777> i installed it and I tried to connect
[02:47] <prometheus> nickrud: that isn't from the command line is it? it's the terminal GUI
[02:47] <remyforbes777> and i got connection refused, could that be a authentication issue
[02:47] <ghostpsalm> kwtm2:  lsof, lsof, bash... but bash is the only terminal - and it doesn't appear to be using it.
[02:47] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[02:47] <Kerr> is there a specific channel for help with installing breezy?
[02:48] <frej> Hmm, it's when i upgrade an package it seems. The defaults are lost. nautilus has fubared too
[02:48] <tuxedo_kamen> lightbright, so, can you help me, please? :|
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> lgc, yes
[02:48] !lilo:*! We're editing the kline file; some clonebots may need to be reentered. Please bear with us.
[02:48] <prometheus> nickrud: just trying to learn how to do things quick and dirty from an ssh connection when I know a package name roughly ;)
[02:48] <akonkwa> bimberi: I have download the jre file. what should I do with it?
[02:48] <nickrud> prometheus, try aptitude search ~g~sgnome
[02:48] <lgc> I'm there. Shall I post the output from ifconfig there?
[02:48] <bimberi> remyforbes777: hm, "sudo netstat -plnt" - look for port 22
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, can you run those commands one by one ? no errors ?
[02:49] <bimberi> akonkwa: open terminal, go to directory with the file, "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[02:49] <ghostpsalm> kwtm2: Now lsof outputs nothing, but Istill cannot umount the device.
[02:49] <remyforbes777> bimberi: nope no port 22
[02:49] <prometheus> nickrud: great thanks again
[02:50] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file?
[02:50] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: are you running Ubuntu now?
[02:50] <lightbright> akonkwa: install it using apt-get
[02:50] <tuxedo_kamen> no, i am working on it remotely, by connecting to my house using SSH!
[02:50] <bimberi> remyforbes777: how about "pgrep sshd" - any output?
[02:50] <lightbright> akonkwa: type: sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[02:50] <remyforbes777> bimberi: no
[02:50] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats the name of the file you created?
[02:50] <akonkwa> bimberi: Ok, i have java installed (I think) What should I do next? (to install limewire)
[02:51] <tuxedo_kamen> teste
[02:51] <frej> So, how does debian packages register gconf schema files?
[02:51] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: ok type chmod 777 teste
[02:51] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: did you type that yet?
[02:51] <frej> kinda newish to debs ;)
[02:51] <bimberi> remyforbes777: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start"
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> frej, what about rpm ?
[02:51] <lightbright> frej:  :)
[02:51] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[02:51] <tuxedo_kamen> now I get this error: " bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:51] <tuxedo_kamen> "
[02:51] <lgc> wickedpuppy, What do I do next?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> lgc, paste the url here ? so i can see your ifconfig output
[02:52] <Kerr> ugh
[02:52] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: what directory are you in NOW? :P hehe
[02:52] <Kerr> wtf is up with the install cd :-/
[02:52] <tuxedo_kamen> same on
[02:52] <lightbright> Kerr: nothing works great
[02:52] <tuxedo_kamen> and if I type "ls", I don't get any errors
[02:52] <bimberi> Kerr: error message?
[02:52] <remyforbes777> bimberi: unknown initscript, etc/init.d/ssh not found
[02:52] <Kerr> base-config depends on console data but it's not going to be installed.
[02:52] <tuxedo_kamen> and I see my file in there...
[02:52] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: type lh -lh and tell me the output
[02:52] <Sgeper> Why isn't there a package for kernel sources of 2.6.12?
[02:52] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: type ls -lh and tell me the output
[02:53] <Octane> i think i have some errors on my /root and /home partitions... what's the best way to fsck fix them?
[02:53] <nickrud> frej, it's done in the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[02:53] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: ok type "sudo chmod 777 teste"
[02:53] <Kerr> lastlog my nick, i've had quite a few errors..
[02:53] <tuxedo_kamen> -rwxrwxrwx    1 miguel.a 1000           76 Nov 24 01:32 teste
[02:53] <tritium> Sgeper, there is...linux-source-2.6.12
[02:53] <lgc> wickedpuppy, you got it. But I booted with eth1 this time over.
[02:53] <Kerr> i'm in the installers openssh, using my home pc's irssi.
[02:53] <bimberi> remyforbes777: "dpkg -l openssh-server | grep ii" - any output?
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> lgc, ? eh where is the url ?
[02:53] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: now type "./teste"
[02:53] <kwtm2> ghostpsalm: Not sure what to do next ...
[02:54] <Octane> anyone have an answer to my super duper simple question
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> doesn't work, he says that the file isn't found! >_<
[02:54] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: whats it say now?
[02:54] <akonkwa> bimberi: limewire is running!!!! thanx for all the help
[02:54] <lgc> wickedpuppy, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4962, I think.
[02:54] <akonkwa> lightbright: thanx for helpming me
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> " bash: ./teste: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> "
[02:54] <lightbright> tuxedo_kamen: try it when you get home :)  have a good day
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> -_-
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[02:54] <themachine> chmod keeps telling me that it is a read-only file system. I used the command:        sudo chmod 755 -R /media/"0 GB Disk (hda1)"/Windows
[02:54] <tuxedo_kamen> brb
[02:54] <bimberi> akonkwa: great! np :)
[02:55] <lightbright> akonkwa: dont thank me, thank the Person who worketh through me :)
[02:55] <Kerr> bimberi: i've never seen a base install with unmet dependancies before, what is going on :-/
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> lgc, the first one is eth0 i assume ?
[02:55] <akonkwa> lightbright:???
[02:55] <lgc> wickedpuppy, right.
[02:55] <lightbright> akonkwa:  and it was bimberi who helped the most
[02:55] <bimberi> Kerr: i don't know sorry, not encountered it myself :/
[02:55] <Zedugh> remyforbes777, dpkg -S inetd.conf says its not found, but I have package netbase installed, which includes a program update-inetd. man update-inetd says it creates, modifies the inetd.conf file. check if you have netbase installed.
[02:55] <lightbright> akonkwa: where did you download Limewire from anyway>? just curious
[02:56] <blanky> hey guys, how can I make use of samba
[02:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell akonkwa about limewire
[02:56] <blanky> I installed it, now how do i...use it
[02:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell blanky about samba
[02:56] <lightbright> bimberi:  heeh ;)
[02:56] <bimberi> lightbright: :)
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> lgc, try ifup eth0
[02:56] <holycow> hey all
[02:56] <lightbright> ubotu tell lightbright about limewire
[02:57] <GorillaFromBeyon> finally, the whole x11 branch of packages is installed
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> blanky, google it or go to #samba
[02:57] <bimberi> hi holycow!
[02:57] <holycow> :)
[02:57] <lgc> wickedpuppy, "ifup: interface eth0 already configured"
[02:57] <holycow> i think ubuntu has done a lot for linux beyond the pure debian/technology end of things
[02:57] <akonkwa> lightbright:http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[02:58] <holycow> its definately freshened up the culture as well
[02:58] <SoulPropagation> what's the package name for Motif
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> lgc, is eth0 connected using dhcp ?
[02:58] <holycow> its nice to see friendly linux folks around :)
[02:58] <lgc> wickedpuppy, yes.
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> lgc, i am curious ... you got two ethernet connections ?
[02:58] <lightbright> akonkwa: I cant downbload from there :(  keeps stopping
[02:59] <lightbright> akonkwa: do you have a server you can let me download Limewire from please?
[02:59] <remyforbes777> bimberi : no packages matching openssh-server installed
[02:59] <kwtm2> ubotu tell me about limewire
[02:59] <Zedugh> remyforbes777, do you have package netbase installed?
[02:59] <bimberi> remyforbes777: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[03:00] <chengzenian> how to install 5.10
[03:00] <lightbright> bimberi:  is there something similar to Limewire that is better?
[03:00] <bimberi> ubotu tell chengzenian about install
[03:00] <remyforbes777> zedugh:yeah
[03:00] <kwtm2> ubotu help
[03:00] <chengzenian> i have not cdrom
[03:00] <bimberi> lightbright: i use gtk-gnutella, better? matter of opinion
[03:00] <remyforbes777> bimberi:ok but i thought i did that
[03:01] <yikes> has anyone successfully used alsa in xmame or kxmame?
[03:01] <lgc> wickedpuppy, sometimes I boot wireless. Sometimes I don't. I usually don't have any trouble with eth0, but lately a message  "ipw2200 fatal error", or something like that pops.
[03:01] <remyforbes777> bimberi: crap that was on my debian box
[03:01] <lightbright> bimberi:  how can I install gtk-gnutella on breezy pls?
[03:01] <bimberi> remyforbes777: i know but it seems that somehow it's no there
[03:01] <nickrud> bimberi, it's smaller footprint is definitely not a matter of opinion :)
[03:01] <remyforbes777> bimberi: im freaking retarded
[03:01] <bimberi> nickrud: :)
[03:01] <mcadory> remyforbes777: sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:01] <lightbright> remyforbes777: you are what you "think" you are
[03:01] <bimberi> remyforbes777: let (s)he who hath never made a mistake cast the first stone :)
[03:02] <lightbright> bimberi:  do I type: sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella ?
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> lgc, googling that term would have saved you hours of asking time here
[03:02] <bimberi> lightbright: yep :)
[03:02] <blanky> hey guys, can someone please help me on this, I was reading this page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba , and under 'Time to fill in your settings:
[03:02] <zovirl> I'm having problems copying files from a DVD-R to my harddrive.  The copy process keeps hanging.  The HD light comes on solid and I can't even kill -9 the cp process. Is that normal?  Is it a bug or is my HD failing?
[03:02] <bimberi> lightbright: will appear under Apps -> Internet
[03:02] <lightbright> bimberi:  cool :)
[03:02] <remyforbes777> bimberi: installing ssh now
[03:02] <blanky> at the bottom it says 'Q: I dont have windows networking section', i dont either, but it doesnt seem to tell what to do
[03:02] <lgc> wickedpuppy, I don't get it.
[03:02] <blanky> can someone please talk to me in private
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> lgc, pls do me a favour and google it pls ... someone on debian mailing list already found that problem
[03:03] <SoulPropagation> blanky: you need to set up networking on your windows box
[03:03] <lightbright> bimberi:  thanks :)
[03:03] <bimberi> lightbright: np :)
[03:03] <blanky> SoulPropagation, er, what?
[03:03] <lgc> wickedpuppy, you mean the ipw2200 issue?
[03:03] <GorillaFromBeyon> now that i have installed x11 what should i do to run xubuntu ?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> lgc, google for ipw2200 fatal error
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> yes
[03:03] <GorillaFromBeyon> like dunno, xdm, gdm ?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> lgc, google for "ipw2200 fatal error" <---
[03:03] <SoulPropagation> blanky: how good are you with windows? i.e. should i give you detailed instructions or just "go here, click this, etc"
[03:04] <themachine> chmod keeps telling me read-only file system. Any idea why?
[03:04] <blanky> you know what I'm talking about right? in https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba under time to fill in your settings, at the bottom is says 'waht if I dont have windows networking section, only hostname and domain name, what do I do now?! but it never answers it
[03:04] <SoulPropagation> themachine: are you trying to chmod a CD?
[03:04] <themachine> no a hardrive
[03:04] <themachine> my hda1 mount
[03:04] <blanky> can I talk in private to someone
[03:04] <blanky> please
[03:05] <SoulPropagation> themachine: mount /dev/hda1 -o remount,rw /
[03:05] <Ophiocus> is it ntfs ?
[03:05] <StarKruzr> anyone here understand inetd?  I'm trying to make talkd work, which says it needs to be run from inetd.  when I installed talkd, it put an entry for itself in inetd.conf, so it looks like it's correct, but when I run ytalk on my machine and try to ytalk with a local user, ytalk just tells me there is no talkd server running.  anyone know what's going on there?
[03:05] <lgc> wickedpuppy, thanks. By the way, do you know if there's a nicer GUI app for configuring network interfaces? It seems that the one included with the distro is quite featureless. I think Windows (yuck!) has a better one!
[03:05] <SoulPropagation> change the / to wherever you mounted /dev/hda1
[03:05] <themachine> yea its ntfs
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> lgc, System -> Administration - >networking
[03:05] <StarKruzr> ntfs is supposed to be mountable rw now, I think.
[03:06] <nickrud> StarKruzr, you probably need to enable talkd; look at /etc/default, or /usr/share/doc/talkd
[03:06] <blanky> guys, I installed kubuntu desktop, and chose to use GDM, but when I had the update, in the beginning where it says 'enabling hotplug' and stuff, it says kubuntu, how can I change that?
[03:06] <StarKruzr> nickrud: I think I did that.  there's an "enable" command for update-inetd and I did that before.  lemme look at those though
[03:07] <Ophiocus> themachine, ntfs file systems are read only,.. if you want a dual boot system that can write to windows partitions while booting in linux you need your windows partition to be fat32,.. if you can get your hands on partition magic, that ll do the trick for you
[03:07] <SoulPropagation> how do i install Motif?
[03:07] <blanky> Can someone please listen to me, anyone
[03:07] <StarKruzr> nickrud: what am I looking for in /etc/default?
[03:07] <lgc> wickedpuppy, that's the one mean! I don't get many options there. For example, when I want to go wireless at different locations. Or if I want WPA coding or whatever.
[03:07] <blanky> Seveas are you here
[03:07] <nickrud> SoulPropagation, sudo apt-get install libmotif3
[03:07] <nickrud> StarKruzr, if you're lucky, a file named talkd
[03:07] <SoulPropagation> nickrud: ah, thanks
[03:08] <StarKruzr> blanky: what are you asking?  isn't GDM the GNU Desktop Manager for Gnome?
[03:08] <blanky> okay, forget that, I'll figure it out. my main question is this
[03:08] <Amaranth> nalioth: haha, i got my breezy cds today from canonical
[03:08] <blanky> starKruzr you listening? its kinda long and I typed it a couple times haha
[03:08] <GorillaFromBeyon> how to i start xubuntu from console (in server installation) after i installed x11 ?
[03:08] <Zedugh> StarKruzr, besides configuring inetd.conf to enable talkd, you need to have the inetd daemon started
[03:09] <nalioth> Amaranth: who's quicker?
[03:09] <mcadory> Amaranth: how long did it take yours to arrive?
[03:09] <StarKruzr> nickrud: there's nothing useful in there either
[03:09] <Amaranth> mcadory: two days before release to now
[03:09] <StarKruzr> Zedugh: It is.  It's sitting in my process list.  Mocking me, in fact.
[03:09] <SoulPropagation> ack. there's no libmotif3 package - is it in the multiverse?
[03:09] <Amaranth> nalioth: obviously.... :)
[03:09] <blanky> okay, in this page ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba ), under 'time to fill in your settings', at the end of that section, it says Q: I dont have a window networking section, only hostname and domain name, what do I do know?, but it never answers it
[03:09] <blanky> StarKruzr, you read that?
[03:09] <francis1710> hola
[03:10] <StarKruzr> I don't know about setting up Samba under Ubuntu, if that's what you mean.
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> lgc, the feeling is that if you do not know what you are doing gui or not won't help you ... and if you know what you are doing then you need no gui :P
[03:10] <henry> hello...some of you have any idea where can i configure the winmodem if ubuntu has detected it???
[03:10] <blanky> wickedpuppy
[03:10] <nickrud> StarKruzr, usually the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/<package> has useful info; I've never used talkd itself, but that's the place I nearly always find what I need
[03:10] <blanky> wickedpuppy are you registered? I'd like to pm you something
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> blanky, sure ... pm me
[03:10] <StarKruzr> nickrud: there's no README.Debian in there.
[03:10] <PinTo> just a Q's if i install GNU debian i386 binary will...my ubuntu walkthroughs be relevant?
[03:10] <nickrud> StarKruzr, then, I'm sorry about the false trail
[03:11] <StarKruzr> we have changelog.Debian.gz, changelog.gz, and copyright.
[03:11] <StarKruzr> I can paste the contents of my inetd.conf to someone if they like.
[03:11] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: still around?
[03:11] <henry> when i say that ubuntu detected the winmodem i mean that using system > administration > device manager....it detects the modem and says that is an intel, etc, etc
[03:11] <Amaranth> PinTo: If you use debian some of the stuff will be relevant but unless you know the differences you won't know what to follow and what not to follow
[03:11] <henry> some idea
[03:11] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, yes
[03:11] <lgc> wickedpuppy, you hit me right on the spot. But be merciful. I want something to make some thinghs easier for me.
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> lgc, nothing ... i don't share that feeling either .. i am teaching my girlfriend how to use linux ... LOL
[03:12] <henry> some idea?
[03:12] <PinTo> right
[03:12] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: yes, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu there isn't one installed by default
[03:12] <henry> some help??
[03:12] <GorillaFromBeyon> so i just see the pointer when i start x (obviously)
[03:13] <blanky> wickedpuppy I messaged you
[03:13] <gar-> any one here have a running DWL-G122 usb wireless adapter on ubuntu please let me know
[03:13] <StarKruzr> henry: I'm afraid I don't use modems, or I would try to help.
[03:13] <henry> StarKruzr thanks...
[03:13] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: hopefully there's some info on that page that helps
[03:13] <GorillaFromBeyon> gone, done, thanks =)
[03:13] <GorillaFromBeyon> installing gdm now
[03:13] <lgc> wickedpuppy, if you can make things clearer to someone like me, there are no chances she won't grasp it.
[03:13] <StarKruzr> maybe I need to change that "wait" to "nowait."
[03:13] <Octane> whats the best way to fsck a mounted partition?
[03:14] <GorillaFromBeyon> bimberi, gone, done, thanks =)
[03:14] <SoulPropagation> Octane: fscking a mounted partition kills it deddd
[03:14] <bimberi> GorillaFromBeyon: np :)
[03:14] <GorillaFromBeyon> waiting for gdm to install
[03:14] <Octane> SoulPropagation: i know you dont do that... what do i  do then to fsck my /root?
[03:14] <gar-> any one can help me setting up the Dlink DWL-G122 USB wireless adapter please
[03:14] <iamkirk> can ubuntu run counterstrike ? :p
[03:14] <AngryPlum> so does nebody know of ati drivers that work on ubuntu live??
[03:14] <SoulPropagation> Octane: / or /root?
[03:14] <AngryPlum> maybe a link ??
[03:14] <SoulPropagation> iamkirk: yes. http://cedega.com
[03:14] <Octane> i mean /
[03:15] <francis1710> hola
[03:15] <themachine> this is what I got     themachine@theheartofthesun:~$ sudo mount /media/"0 GB Disk (hda1)" /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[03:15] <themachine> mount: /media/0 GB Disk (hda1) is not a block device
[03:15] <SoulPropagation> Octane: there's a way to force fscking
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> lgc, she is a bio student ... lol
[03:15] <SoulPropagation> ** at boot time
[03:15] <Octane> im not going to force an fsck on a mounted parition
[03:15] <francis1710> hi
[03:15] <mcadory> gar-: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=116462
[03:15] <SoulPropagation> it's before it gets mounted
[03:15] <lgc> wickedpuppy, biologists are smart, don't underestimate them!
[03:16] <StarKruzr> yeah
[03:16] <Octane> SoulPropagation: i am asking how to do that!
[03:16] <StarKruzr> they'll pull out the petri dishes and infect you with something nasty :o
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> lgc, alright alright ... i think we are out of topic .... well .. if yours is using dhcp try dhclient eth0
[03:16] <os2mac> just wondering why I had a pm from you.
[03:16] <henry> some of you have ever configured a windmodem???
[03:16] <cafuego> Octane: Mount it read-only, then fsck it.
[03:17] <catherine> can i easily look a dvd on my television with ubuntu ?
[03:17] <StarKruzr> anyone else inetd-savvy?
[03:17] <mcadory> gar-: its a start.  google'd dwl-g122 linux howto
[03:17] <lgc> wickedpuppy, thanks. But what is that supposed to do? (See, I WANT to learn!)
[03:17] <lightbright> catherine: what?
[03:17] <Octane> cafuego: in grub change ro to r then fsck fix it?
[03:17] <StarKruzr> it still apparently hates me.
[03:17] <catherine> lightbright: watch a dvd
[03:17] <StarKruzr> catherine: you're going to have trouble with DVDs right away because there are no licensed DVD players for Linux
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> lgc, that will try to get the ip from dhcp server
[03:17] <lightbright> catherine: I can watch a dvd on Ubuntu yes
[03:17] <StarKruzr> no free ones, anyway
[03:18] <lightbright> catherine: but in my country its ok to watch DVD
[03:18] <akonkwa> lightbrihgt: I'm trying to send you the file
[03:18] <catherine> lightbright: i mean put what's on my screen on the TV actually
[03:18] <lgc> wickedpuppy, See, you saved me hours of perusing online manuals!
[03:18] <devnul> hello
[03:18] <cafuego> Octane: Go to single-user mode. (sudo init 1). Then unmount all non-/ filesystems. Then 'mount -n -o remount,ro /' to mount it read-only. Then run fsck. Then 'mount -n -o remount,rw /'. Then remount non-/ filesystems, then 'init 2' to go back to multi-user mode.
[03:18] <lightbright> akonkwa:  its ok I got it already now
[03:18] <StarKruzr> catherine: you're going to need a specific device for that.
[03:18] <lightbright> akonkwa:  thanks anyway :)
[03:18] <cafuego> Octane: No rebooting inviolved, unless fsck _needs_ to.
[03:18] <StarKruzr> maybe your graphics card has video-out?
[03:18] <francis1710> yes
[03:18] <Octane> cafuego: bueaitful thank you so much
[03:19] <themachine> theres a good dvd player for linux that boots up your pc called Geexbox
[03:19] <akonkwa> lightbright : np
[03:19] <cafuego> Octane: Alternatively, you can run 'sudo touch /forcefsck' and reboot; that should force FSCK on / after a reboot.
[03:19] <catherine> I jut want to be able to use a S-VIDEO cable between my computer and my TV on ubuntu, is that easy to do ?
[03:19] <StarKruzr> themachine: "boots up your pc?"
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> lgc, you must learn to rtfm ... sometimes there is nobody but you and the shell
[03:19] <catherine> like on windows xp
[03:19] <Octane> cafuego: using touch, which partitions wil lthat fsck?
[03:19] <StarKruzr> catherine: what are you going to do about sound?
[03:19] <Octane> oh on/
[03:19] <cafuego> Octane: only /
[03:19] <StarKruzr> catherine: have you tried it already?
[03:19] <Red-Sox> for some reason, my gaim account all the sudden wont sign ov
[03:19] <Red-Sox> on*
[03:19] <Octane> so i fi do 'sudo touch /home/forcefsck' itll fsck it too?
[03:19] <cafuego> Octane: The rest you can do by hand.
[03:19] <lightbright> catherine:  so saving you byuing a dvd player for your TV, right? :)
[03:19] <catherine> StarKruzr: i don't care of the sound
[03:20] <StarKruzr> hm
[03:20] <StarKruzr> okay
[03:20] <cafuego> Octane: No, BUT you can do somethign tricky with 'tune2fs'
[03:20] <StarKruzr> but have you tried it already?
[03:20] <lightbright> akonkwa:  :)
[03:20] <StarKruzr> because honestly I can't think of a reason it wouldn't work.
[03:20] <iamkirk> is there any way i can play counterstrike on linux without having to pay
[03:20] <Octane> cuz i really need to fsck my /home parititon
[03:20] <cafuego> Octane: Yiou can unmount /home, then mark it as dirty via tune2fs. if it's marked dirty, it will be fsck'ed at boorup.
[03:20] <iamkirk> this cedega thing is nifty but i dont want to spend money :p
[03:20] <catherine> lightbright: it's not only for DVDs, but also for presentations on TV screen
[03:20] <StarKruzr> iamkirk: this is probably not the place to ask about warez ;)
[03:20] <lightbright> catherine:  sounds good
[03:21] <lgc> wickedpuppy,  It's been like that for many years. That's why I don't know much. I found the treasure cove with this "xchat" thing!
[03:21] <catherine> it's so easy to do with windows xp, i thought it could possible on ubuntu
[03:21] <cafuego> Octane: If you'd like to fsck all of them easily, close all apps, then hit the reset button on the computer case ;-)
[03:21] <iamkirk> im not talking about free... i bought a copy of counterstrike today and dont want to play it in winblows ;P
[03:21] <catherine> just need a svideo cable
[03:21] <StarKruzr> ahhh
[03:21] <Zedugh> catherine, what kind of video card do you have?
[03:21] <lightbright> catherine: anything possible with XP is possible with Linux :)
[03:21] <Octane> cafuego:  ive actually done that and suprisingly it doesnt fsck everything :)
[03:22] <cafuego> Octane: No, only stuff marked dirty (but that SHOULD include home and / anyway)
[03:22] <iamkirk> i see ways of playing cs on linux , but i dont want to have to pay twice to play a game
[03:22] <sri> hi all
[03:22] <iamkirk> thats all im asking
[03:22] <catherine> Zedugh: ati
[03:22] <sri> anybody getting this strange bug with Xorg spinning 100% if you load an app that uses gtk treeview widget?
[03:22] <catherine> Zedugh: radeon
[03:22] <lgc> wickedpuppy, back on topic again, when I do "dhclient eth0" will I lose my eth1 link?
[03:22] <cafuego> iamkirk: That's the joy of proprietary software.
[03:23] <Octane> cafuego: thanks for your help. im gonna try this out. i appreciate it.
[03:23] <wickedpuppy> lgc, i am not sure .... see i never use two ethernet at the same time ... assume it will
[03:23] <Mabus06> the sound quality for my doom 3 on linux is so incredibly bad... how do I fix this?
[03:23] <iamkirk> so no counterstrike on linux.....disappointing
[03:24] <cafuego> iamkirk: Via Cedega it ought to run fine.
[03:24] <lightbright> !wvdial
[03:24] <lgc> wickedpuppy, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!". I rather wait, that is.
[03:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, lightbright