[21:17] <erUSUL> m0ar: beep media player and audacious are like winamp
[21:18] <Scunizi> factran: here's a better reference.. mentions scrolling etc. http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/148943
[21:18] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, oh sorry
[21:18] <tiox> I need a little help.
[21:18] <m0ar> erUSUL: Yeah, but i really need to be able to browse files in a folder-tree view as they look on the HDD
[21:18] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, yes, I am here. And yes, bin is in my path
[21:18] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, as of what ~/.bashrc says
[21:18] <joeyeye> SpacePigeon: is ~/bin there ?
[21:18] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, yes
[21:19] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, it used to worked but it does not since I upgraded
[21:19] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: is there a way to install ubuntu without the liveCD boot? i guess my RAM is not enough(256Mb) to do a live boot and then to install
[21:19] <joeyeye> SpacePigeon: pastebin your $PATH output
[21:19] <nds_> canal #ubuntu-fr-devweb
[21:19] <erUSUL> m0ar: banshee and RB use id3 tags to index the files then you access them by artist or and album name
[21:19] <joeyeye> SpacePigeon: upgraded from what to what ?
[21:19] <Scunizi> c420s: 9.10 has two types of encryption available.. one the rides on top of the system and works primarily for /home and /swap and the other which is block level and can be done on the whole drive.. the second requires login before boot to decrypt and the first allows booting and decrypts only after entering username and pas
[21:19] <mizipzor> is there a keyboard shortcut for collapsing/expanding codeblocks in scintilla/anjuta? cant seem to find it in the menus
[21:20] <bsatzinger> Hi, does anyone know a way to make LyX not freeze when I try to do a spell check?
[21:20] <tiox> Well, I am running Ubuntu off CD, x64 current stable release, I cannot connect to the internet with it.
[21:20] <m0ar> erUSUL: Yeah i know, but I need folder view. I have a pedantic heriarchy at my external music drive, all artists albums, discogs sorted etc etc
[21:20] <nds_> hi
[21:20] <nds_> could help me
[21:20] <erUSUL> m0ar: dunno maybe quod libet or Listen have what you want
[21:20] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/wolter/bin:/home/wolter/scripts:/media/Storage/Linux/bin
[21:20] <m0ar> erUSUL: Anything else is not an option I'm afraid. Foobar was my life :'D
[21:20] <m0ar> erUSUL: Will check them out, thanks
[21:20] <jafo1> I got a problem with mdadm softraid, I cant' get the md arrays automagically start rebuilding at boot time. I got a problem with 3 raid1 array on a hp sata server.. the rebuild starts only by hand with mdadm --manage --add..... how can I get the automatic rebuild of all arrays at boot time?
[21:20] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, from jaunty to karmic cand. rel.
[21:20] <mickster04> !help
[21:20] <nds_> I would like to connect to #ubuntu-fr-devweb
[21:21] <nds_> how i do it
[21:21] <mickster04> "/join"
[21:21] <joeyeye> SpacePigeon: you're trying to source scripts from /home/wolter/bin ?
[21:21] <mickster04> ?
[21:21] <nds_> thank
[21:21] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: is there a way to install ubuntu without the liveCD boot? i guess my RAM is not enough(256Mb) to do a live boot and then to install
[21:21] <DrZeus> i don't know what happens, but the live boot keeps hanging
[21:21] <hanasaki> do-release-upgrade -d  <= how long does this command pause for you folks? its been 10mins for me
[21:21] <jafo1> DrZeus: neither in text mode?
[21:21] <joaopinto> DrZeus, 256 is not sufficient to run Ubuntu, you probably want Xubuntu
[21:21] <DrZeus> and doesn't finish to set down
[21:21] <erUSUL> jafo1: maybe more help in #ubuntu-server
[21:21] <mickster04> nds_, "/join"
[21:22] <erUSUL> !alternate | DrZeus
[21:22] <Scunizi> DrZeus: try the text based "Alternate" installer
[21:22] <Hans_Henrik> i have a seriously annoying problem, If i try to open the "My Computer", a slight second you see that theres a "blank box loading", then the entire desktop gets blank (ALL icoons gone), same happens if i try open the trash-can if its not empty, only fix i've found is to restart, help?
[21:22] <tiox> I wish to connect to the internet using Ubuntu in live session mode. I have a tarball I am suppose to use the rpmbuild command with, but I cannot do that because it is a part of a library I need to get off the internet. Help me please?
[21:22] <jafo1> erUSUL: thanks.. but no-one helps..
[21:22] <RhysTM> does anyone have any experience of using an o2 usb 3g modem under ubuntu
[21:22] <erUSUL> jafo1: :| maybe is some setting in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf ?
[21:22] <m0ar> RhysTM: 3g, works fine. Tried several ISPs
[21:22] <vigo_> !alien | tiox
[21:22] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye,
[21:22] <SpacePigeon> yes
[21:23] <tiox> Uggggh!
[21:23] <DrZeus> Scunizi: i see; will check on that
[21:23] <DrZeus> thankjs
[21:23] <tiox> I have an Atheros AR8131 PCI-E Ethernet Adapter and my laptop's being a bitch.
[21:23] <jafo1> erUSUL: no.. mdadm.conf is for the userspace monitor daemon.. the rebuild process should start examining the descriptor initial part of partition signature.. (fd for softraid)
[21:24] <jafo1> if I boot with a live distro (sysreccd, knoppix..) the rebuild start correctly..
[21:24] <quimkaos> tiox slap it
[21:24] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, I am going to eat, so, could you please start a private conversation? I might not be able to scroll back that much
[21:24] <joeyeye> SpacePigeon: add the -/+O shopt_option
[21:25] <shane2peru> !rename
[21:25] <m0ar> Anyone know a player that can browse through the folder heriarchy on my external drive?
[21:25] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, well, Ill ask details later, thanks!
[21:25] <tiox> rofl
[21:25] <tiox> quimkaos, thank you for making my day.
[21:26] <tiox> Bitchslap my modem, lol
[21:26] <infidx> how do i install compiz and what version should i get?
[21:26] <GilJ> apt-get install compiz, and the newest?
[21:26] <infidx> i'm confused by compiz-fusion and other versions
[21:27] <jafo1> hey.. any md-raid expert here?
[21:27] <infidx> i use gnome, do i need compiz-gnome
[21:28] <mickster04> infidx, nope
[21:28] <P0lux> I've just bought a new Keyboard... I've downloader the configuration file from the Internet... I was wondering where I have to save the file to be able to access it from System / Preferences / Keyboard ????
[21:28] <raven_> hi - GPODDER gives me "sqlite3.OperationalError: unable to open database file" - can i repair that?
[21:28] <joeyeye> SpacePigeon: I can not PM you ... for some reason
[21:29] <thijs> Hi, I just installed some intell wifi5100 specific firmware in my /lib/firmware/2.6.24-25-generic/ folder, rebooted, but i still think it isn't loaded. How do i check that?
[21:30] <bsatzinger> I've installed LyX and aspell, but when I try to run the spell check command, LyX freezes.  Does anyone know of a workaround or solution?
[21:30] <jasonfunk> In 9.10, where are the preferences for the notifications?
[21:31] <infidx> ubuntu says i already have compiz installed when i try to apt-get compiz. how do i configure it?
[21:31] <thijs> infidx, try installing compiz-config
[21:31] <Slart> !ccsm
[21:31] <mickster04> infidx, compiz settings manager?
[21:31] <P0lux> No one can help me out ?
[21:31] <joeyeye> infidx: System | Preferences | CompizConfig Settings Manager
[21:32] <mickster04> infidx, fusion icon is useful?
[21:32] <m0ar> How to activate scrolling in IRSSI?
[21:32] <thijs> Hi, I just installed some intell wifi5100 specific firmware in my /lib/firmware/2.6.24-25-generic/ folder, rebooted, but i still think it isn't loaded. How do i check that?
[21:32] <Slart> P0lux: what kind of configuration file did you download?
[21:32] <Slart> P0lux: there weren't any instructions where you found the file?
[21:32] <infidx> thanks
[21:32] <dbruns> i'm trying to install pdo_mysql on a newly setup ubuntu server and i'm getting a configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under when I try to do a pecl install pdo_mysql    i've done an apt-get install mysql-server     is there a package I need to install for headers like mysql-devel (i can't find one)
[21:32] <Slart> m0ar: pageup and pagedown doesn't scroll?
[21:33] <awayguy> who knows here a channel for statistiks or sciences?
[21:33] <awayguy> statistics
[21:33] <Slart> dbruns: try searching for libmysql
[21:33] <mgv3> what happend to to volume cntl?
[21:34] <fission6> whats the easiest way for me to find all the packets going in and out from a certain application? is their a built in packet sniffer or something within bununtu
[21:34] <m0ar> Slart: Indeed it does, but I want my wheel :D
[21:34] <dbruns> Slart:  thanks
[21:34] <FiReSTaRT> awayguy: go to #r
[21:34] <infidx> i have compiz installed but ubuntu seems to be using metacity, how do i tell it to use compiz?
[21:34] <Slart> m0ar: oh.. I'm not sure you can do that.. is that information even sent to the terminal window where irssi is running?
[21:34] <awayguy> welle i'm allready there, but seems there is nobody really active :P
[21:34] <dbruns> Firew/join #r
[21:34] <mickster04> infidx, install fusion-icon
[21:34] <m0ar> Slart: How could i know?
[21:34] <P0lux> Slart : let me put in in an other way : With Keytouch-editor, I've create a configuration file... what do I have to do with the file to be enables ???
[21:35] <P0lux> d
[21:35] <tsgx> how can I make udev run a script on connect usbstick AFTER the device node has been created?
[21:35] <nick635mirc1> ciao a tutti
[21:35] <bucky> awayguy, my stats indicate that the chances of anyone knowing that in this channel are slim.. but you could /join #math where there are about 450 users logged on
[21:35] <FiReSTaRT> awayguy: R = great statistical package that we use for geophysics and spatial analysis but it can be used for any sort of statistical work
[21:35] <nick635mirc1> !list
[21:35] <FiReSTaRT> awayguy: ahh ok.. well in that case i can't help you... most of the support i got from R was either from gis people or from GIYF
[21:36] <rwat> anyone using the s-video output on a mac mini (intel video) successfully ?
[21:36] <FiReSTaRT> rwat: nope but i just recently tested it on nvidia hardware and didn't have any issues
[21:36] <Slart> P0lux: no idea.. have you checked the keytouch documentation?
[21:37] <rwat> FiReSTaRT: I can't get my flat panel to do anything when connected via svideo
[21:37] <awayguy> yeah i know r i work with it too, but now i've got a general question to result declaration in sciences
[21:37] <rwat> xrandr says VGA1 connected
[21:37] <rwat> when I think it should really think that TV1 is connected
[21:37] <fission6> can someone recommend a packet sniffer on ubuntu
[21:37] <P0lux> yes but it doesn't say...... in System / Preferences / Keyboard   you can select a keyboad config....   where in my system do I have to add the file to able to see it ?
[21:37] <rwat> something happens when I restart gdm, but the TV keeps saying "unnacceptable"
[21:37] <rwat> or rather "not accepted"
[21:38] <joeyeye> thijs: did you dmesg | grep firmware ?
[21:38] <FiReSTaRT> rwat: here's how it's handled with the nvidia config tool. first you detect the display, then you configure it to run as twinview or as a separate x-screen, click on apply and you're done
[21:38] <thijs> joeyeye, will try that
[21:38] <thijs> joeyeye, no result
[21:38] <rwat> FiReSTaRT: you mean "Detect Monitors" inthe gnome display prefs?
[21:39] <rwat> that gives me something called Apple 10"
[21:39] <drpcken> hello, I want to setup remote desktop into my new ubuntu box, but of course when I restart I have to be in front of the machine and log in again before I can Remote back into it, is there a better way?
[21:39] <FiReSTaRT> rwat: i'd assume so.. once its detected, you need to configure it (how you want it, which resolution, etc etc etc)
[21:39] <rwat> whereas I know I have a LG 42"
[21:39] <mgv3> do i need to buy new computer to make the microphone work? - it doesnt
[21:39] <Slart> P0lux: not sure there is a place where you can just add a file.. I could be wrong of course... Did you download the file from the keytouch website?
[21:40] <krummaluf> sup
[21:40] <artis> Hi! I'm trying to mount (ext.) USB HDD w/ NTFS on Ubuntu 9.10v Live CD but it doesn't show up in 'sudo fdisk -l'. I see it's present in dmesg as "usb-storage: device found at 3 [..]" Any hints? Modprobe shows that module "ehci_hdc" is not present.
[21:40] <krummaluf> i started using kde
[21:41] <krummaluf> :D
[21:41] <FiReSTaRT> rwat: i'd assume you'd just need to detect, configure and apply
[21:41] <Hans_Henrik> If i try to open the "My Computer", a slight second you see that theres a "blank box loading", then the entire desktop gets blank (ALL icoons gone), same happens if i try open the trash-can if its not empty, only fix i've found is to restart, ideas?
[21:41] <joeyeye> thijs: is it listed in lsmod ?
[21:41] <krummaluf> did i done good?
[21:41] <Slart> artis: no errors in the syslog when you connect it?
[21:41] <dbruns> Slart: any idea where to find the mysql install? checking for mysql install under /usr/local/include/... can not find it
[21:42] <dbruns> Slart:  also tried /usr/local/mysql (which its not there either)
[21:42] <Slart> dbruns: mysql install? it's not installed in one place only.. it's a little all over the place.. or you mean some special part of it?
[21:42] <artis> Slart, "ubuntu python: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1" Dunno if that's relevant...
[21:42] <fbc-mx> Slart, I followed the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuServerFlashDriveInstaller but if you notice the script calls another script called install-mbr. Wher do I get it?
[21:42] <meway> hello
[21:43] <meway> is there a way to change my user name?
[21:43] <mickster04> whenever i open a new window it always does so maximised, how do i fix this?
[21:43] <dbruns> Slart: i know I mean satisfy the requirement to ./configure pdo_mysql     its looking for mysql headers I assume
[21:43] <meway> how do i change my user name?
[21:43] <Slart> artis: hmm.. it does sound like a io related error.. but I've never seen it before... odd
[21:43] <mickster04> meway, have u looked under users and groups
[21:43] <meway> Also i need to know if and how to delete another user?
[21:43] <thijs> joeyeye, no, actually.. darn...
[21:43] <dbruns> Slart:  so installed libmysql++3 libmysqlclient15-dev
[21:44] <meway> mickster im new to ubuntu im not sure where or how
[21:44] <Slart> fbc-mx: I can't really help you any further with the usb stuff.. I've never used it myself
[21:44] <mickster04> !tabs|meway
[21:44] <mickster04> !tab | meway
[21:44] <Slart> dbruns: hmm.. not really sure where that installs stuff to.. you can right click on the package in synaptic and see what files it installs.. perhaps that might give you some hints
[21:44] <meway> sorrt mickster04
[21:44] <mickster04> meway, system>admin>users....
[21:44] <meway> sorry*
[21:44] <matu_> org
[21:44] <mickster04> meway, not a problem
[21:45] <thijs> joeyeye, you got any idea where to check to see where it failed to load ?
[21:45] <Slart> meway: I think you can.. but it might be more trouble than it's worth
[21:45] <artis> It was preceeded with "ubuntu hp[5933]: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1"
[21:45] <dbruns> Slart: right click? ;-) i'm remote using ssh
[21:45] <rwat> FiReSTaRT: with a bit of fiddling I can now at least see something on the screen, but it's not good :/
[21:45] <meway> not really
[21:45] <joeyeye> thijs: the module should be there at least, it may not successully load - check the module dependencies, and if needed run sudo /sbin/depmod -a
[21:45] <drpcken> I can currently remote into my new ubuntu box, but of course when I restart I have to be in front of the machine and log in again before I can Remote back into it, is there a better way?
[21:45] <FiReSTaRT> rwat: you have to match the tv's resolution and refresh rate
[21:45] <Slart> dbruns: hehe.. nevermind that then.. let me check for you.. (you could probably use apt-cache to list the installed files but I don't know the syntax by heart)
[21:45] <rwat> yes I believe I am, but I'm lacking a manual for the TV
[21:46] <darkham> someone can exlain me "becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs"
[21:46] <Flannel> !membership | darkham
[21:46] <joeyeye> thijs: what'
[21:47] <joeyeye> thijs: what's the driver you're messing with ?
[21:47] <thijs> iwl5000
[21:47] <thijs> intel wireless on ubuntu hardy
[21:47] <knarf> does anyone have a dell latitude c610?
[21:47] <mickster04> meway, any luck?
[21:47] <meway> not sure what ime doing
[21:48] <joeyeye> thijs: nothing from lsmod | grep iwl ?
[21:48] <artis> Slart, may it be because the ehci_hdc is not present in LiveCD?
[21:48] <mickster04> meway, what are u trying?
[21:48] <thijs> joeyeye, nope
[21:48] <Slart> dbruns: try /usr/include/mysql/   it seems to put quite a lot of files in there
[21:48] <meway> i need to del a user
[21:48] <thijs> joeyeye, i ran a full lsmod, looked through it as well, and nothing came up
[21:48] <meway> like one i didnt want to make
[21:48] <Slart> artis: hmm.. isn't ehci_hdc just the driver for usb v2 ?
[21:49] <dbruns> Slart: not working :(  grrrrr
[21:49] <mickster04> meway, well have u gone to system>admin>users and groups?
[21:49] <meway> how do i get there ? :/
[21:49] <mickster04> alt+f1
[21:49] <Slart> dbruns: well.. that's the only place where libmysqlclient15-dev installs any source files
[21:49] <iceroot> meway: deluser username
[21:49] <mickster04> meway, alt+f1
[21:49] <EvRide> will there be any problems with updating from 9.04 to 9.10?
[21:50] <Sonja> how do i make linux exit when i've reached (END) of a file?
[21:50] <iceroot> EvRide: maybe
[21:50] <Sonja> i hit escape at it shows ESC
[21:50] <Sonja> and enter just makes it beep
[21:50] <Slart> Sonja: Ctrl D ?
[21:50] <knarf> i would do a new install :)
[21:50] <EvRide> k
[21:50] <Sonja> control D also beeps
[21:50] <meway> EvRide: make sure you go into the tirminal and sudo update
[21:50] <damagednoob> says you, EvRide: make sure you go into the tirminal and sudo update
[21:50] <knarf> i didi  an upgrade but boot time is nothing great...but system is good
[21:50] <damagednoob> says you, i didi  an upgrade but boot time is nothing great...but system is good
[21:50] <freeatlast> what's the shell to tell what version ubuntu is on this mach.? ?
[21:50] <damagednoob> says you, what's the shell to tell what version ubuntu is on this mach.? ?
[21:50] <EvRide> ok
[21:50] <damagednoob> says you, ok
[21:50] <meway> lol
[21:50] <damagednoob> says you, lol
[21:50] <FloodBot3> damagednoob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <iceroot> meway: what should sudo update do?
[21:51] <damagednoob> says you, meway: what should sudo update do?
[21:51] <meway> damage noob0.o
[21:51] <damagednoob> says you, damage noob0.o
[21:51] <meway> wtf
[21:51] <damagednoob> says you, wtf
[21:51] <Slart> Sonja: what are you doing?
[21:51] <ubuntu_giant> Hey, does anyone use CPIO?  When I run the command "find /home/user/.* | cpio -ov > user.cpio", I get the error "cpio: write error: File too large"
[21:51] <Lipee> hi labredes
[21:51] <banermatt> hello
[21:51] <iceroot> damagednoob: stop that
[21:51] <mickster04> meway, any luck?
[21:51] <EvRide> cause i mean it'd be a pain to  change all my settings and styles and reinstall all my software
[21:51] <Sonja> Slart looking at ruby docs with "ri "
[21:51] <meway> not yet im being distracted
[21:51] <labredes10> eaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[21:51] <Sonja> and it shows a text file in the terminal i can control up and control down but at the (END) it won't let me leave
[21:51] <trism> Sonja: q
[21:52] <banermatt> I just crashed my X server
[21:52] <iceroot> Sonja: press q
[21:52] <Sonja> yay q!
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, Sonja :P
[21:52] <Sonja> thanks
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, Sonja :P
[21:52] <meway> did you say alt f1?
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, meway :P
[21:52] <FloodBot3> damagednoob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:52] <Lipee> gns3
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, Lipee :P
[21:52] <banermatt> what can I type to restart x please
[21:52] <iceroot> banermatt: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:52] <Sonja> what is that program called, that i pressed q to leave? i should read up on its commands, etc.
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, Sonja :P
[21:52] <banermatt> thank you iceroot
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, banermatt :P
[21:52] <Sonja> what do you mean, damagednoob?
[21:52] <mickster04> Sonja, its a bot
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, mickster04 :P
[21:52] <Willy> is there a chat room for hackers?
[21:52] <damagednoob> says you, Willy :P
[21:52]  * Scunizi shoots the bot
[21:53] <meway> mickster04:  ok sorry did you say type alt f1?
[21:53] <quimkaos> he is damaged
[21:53] <erUSUL> ubuntu_giant: and it is to large ? cpio has a limit of 8 GiB or so
[21:53] <mickster04> meway, a while ago yes:D
[21:53] <meway> and than?
[21:53] <EvRide> who the hell is damagednoob and what is he doing?
[21:53] <Willy> does anybody know a room where hackers hang
[21:53] <knarf> hi.....any idea why i cant do composite?
[21:53] <Sonja> trism and iceroot what program is it that q makes you exit? i want to read more about its commands
[21:53] <Scunizi> EvRide: looks like a bot
[21:53] <iceroot> Willy: you know what a hacker is?
[21:53] <Slart> !ot | Willy
[21:53] <mickster04> meway, system>admin>users and groups
[21:53] <EvRide> k
[21:53] <iceroot> Willy: please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:53] <trism> Sonja: less, by default
[21:54] <mickster04> EvRide, a bot?
[21:54] <Sonja> okay, so i should read about less
[21:54] <Willy> thx iceroot
[21:54] <Sonja> thanks
[21:54] <sqip> my instalation of unbuntu is around 20 gb is it normal?
[21:54] <Slart> sqip: nope
[21:54] <meway> ah
[21:54] <Camaxtli> sqip: Nope
[21:54] <Slart> sqip: I would say something like 2-3 Gb might be more reasonable
[21:54] <joaopinto> sqip, sudo apt-get clean, to clean the install cache
[21:54] <sqip> okej will make a try
[21:54] <soreau> mickster04: Next time someone asks how to enable compiz, don't tell them to install fusion-icon. Instead, direct them to gnome-appearance-properties in sys>prefs>appearance and set Extra in the Visual Effects tab
[21:55] <Camaxtli> 20gb, that's like the average windows install
[21:55] <EvRide> sqip maybe you have a lot of other programs installed like games
[21:55] <mickster04> soreau, ok
[21:55] <joaopinto> I do have 19GBs used :)
[21:55] <iceroot> sqip: look at df -h  if really 20gb are used
[21:55] <mickster04> soreau, does that let u edit values anywhere?
[21:55] <ubuntu_giant> erUSUL: As far as I know the home dir is only at most 3 G.  I do get output of stuff being packaged.
[21:55] <soreau> mickster04: No, and neither does fusion-icon
[21:55] <sqip> nope have only install 2 small program
[21:55] <Camaxtli> joaopinto: That include /home ?
[21:55] <EvRide> lol k
[21:56] <joaopinto> no, system only
[21:56] <mickster04> soreau, yeah it does? the firrst option is the settings manager
[21:56] <meway> mickster04:  thank you very much :)
[21:56] <soreau> mickster04: f-i only detects if certain programs installed like ccsm and emerald and then provides shortcuts to start the ones that are installed
[21:56] <knarf> i get green circles when i go over a page in gimp....any idea why?
[21:56] <mickster04> soreau, oooh ok
[21:57] <mickster04> soreau, my bad at least i know for next time
[21:57] <soreau> mickster04: Thanks
[21:57] <iceroot> mickster04: is there a specifi reason for the "04" in your nick? (sorry just interested)
[21:58] <Scunizi> knarf: you holding the mouse button down when doing that?
[21:58] <EvRide> is there a list of all the package versions going to be in 9.10?
[21:58] <EvRide> like ff3.5?
[21:58] <iceroot> EvRide: not a complete list
[21:58] <Scunizi> EvRide: packages.ubuntu.com and yes.. ff3.5 will be installed
[21:58] <knarf> scunizzi: no , while hovering
[21:58] <erUSUL> EvRide: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:58] <EvRide> k thanks
[21:58] <Scunizi> knarf: what tool is chosen?
[21:58] <iceroot> EvRide: oh, sorry, wrong information
[21:58] <EvRide> and what about mono?
[21:59] <mickster04> iceroot, when i first got the nick it was 2004, i havwent changed it since for anything i do
[21:59] <knarf> scunizi: no tool chosen. just at start itself
[21:59] <iceroot> mickster04: ok :) thx
[21:59] <erUSUL> EvRide: check the website we linked
[21:59] <EvRide> lol k, im checking
[21:59] <exqqqqqq> hi there
[22:00] <alex_iii> ciao
[22:00] <alex_iii> !list
[22:00] <Scunizi> knarf: do you have other video issues?
[22:00] <sqip> my host map is 16.9 gb :S
[22:00] <Hans_Henrik> btw karmic == LTS?
[22:00] <iceroot> Hans_Henrik: no
[22:00] <knarf> scunizi: have this problem only after i upgraded to karmic. yes, composite does not work. when i enable that in gconf-editor i get a distorted screen
[22:01] <iceroot> Hans_Henrik: 10.04 will be LTS
[22:01] <AakashPatel> hey guys
[22:01] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye,
[22:01] <iceroot> knarf: #ubuntu+1
[22:01] <SpacePigeon> I'm back, could you well me what to write in my bashrc?
[22:01] <AakashPatel> im having a problem connecting my apple wireless keyboard with bluetoof to my comp
[22:01] <Scunizi> knarf: ah.. for karmic you should be in #ubuntu+1 until it is released.. might be some quirk that hasn't been ironed out yet.
[22:01] <AakashPatel> its not letting it connect, but when i get keys it randomly asks to grant permissions or something
[22:02] <AakashPatel> any ideas on whats wrong? or how i can get it to pair successfully?
[22:02] <knarf> scunizi: thanks :)
[22:02] <leona> !paste
[22:03] <EvRide> i just checked the size of FileSystem, it's like 110 gb, but the drive is about 40gb, lol
[22:03] <EvRide> im guessing it includes all mounts?
[22:03] <iceroot> EvRide: ???
[22:03] <iceroot> EvRide: post the output of "df -h" to pastebin
[22:03] <SpacePigeon> joeyeye, you there?
[22:03] <sqip> i got a file "root.disk" in /host/ubuntu/disk that one is 16.4 gb  can i delite it :P?
[22:04] <leona> hello boys
[22:06] <exqqqqqq> how can i repair the grub of my ubuntu server next to a windows installation ?
[22:06] <erUSUL> !grub | exqqqqqq
[22:07] <exqqqqqq> thanks.
[22:07] <cohete> what happened to the hid2hci tool in karmic? I can't find it
[22:07] <erUSUL> !karmic | cohete
[22:08] <EvRide> has anyone used karmic yet? how is it?
[22:09] <mickster04> i use the UNR
[22:09] <Slart> EvRide: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:09] <mickster04> its esthetically  nice
[22:09] <leona> http://paste.ubuntu.com/302349/
[22:09] <leona> please help me
[22:09] <leona> :)
[22:09] <ikonia> leona: that looks like it's self compiled
[22:10] <cottima> Hello all, I am trying to get better with php, and I am looking for a short, open-src project to read.  By simple, I mean small as in something I can read though.  Any suggestions?  I have wondering if anyone knows of any Japanese language projects perhaps?
[22:10] <leona> ikonia what ?
[22:10] <ikonia> cottima: ask in ##php
[22:10] <ikonia> leona: that application looks like it's self compiled
[22:11] <Decimate> anyone want to buy a windows 7 key?
[22:11] <leona> its bug
[22:11] <leona> i need fix
[22:11] <ikonia> Decimate: don't ask
[22:11] <ikonia> leona: then ask the ircd maintainers
[22:11] <ikonia> leona: that's not package for ubuntu
[22:11] <s1300045> hey guys, has anyone tried to setup a wifi ap with karmic? isnt madwifi taken out of repo?
[22:11] <Decimate> ikonia: anyone want to buy a windows 7 key?
[22:11] <Slart> !karmic | s1300045
[22:11] <Scunizi> Decimate: take it to ##windows
[22:12] <mickster04> ha loser:D
[22:12] <leona> ikonia
[22:12] <ikonia> leona: yes ?
[22:12] <sqip> anyone know why my root.disk is so big? and is it possible to make it smaler?
[22:12] <leona> on other distru its work
[22:12] <ikonia> sqip: gparted can be used to re-size it
[22:12] <leona> why on ubuntu dont work
[22:13] <ikonia> leona: that's fine - it still needs to be logged to the ircd maintainers
[22:13] <ikonia> leona: it's self compiled - not packaged for ubuntu so not something the ubuntu developers maintain
[22:13] <leona> ahahah
[22:13] <frozenskunk> Hello all, can someone give me a hand figuring out how to get my windows xp install to boot after a recent (new) install of ubuntu on another drive? This is the 3rd drive with an OS on it on the system a previous ubuntu install, the xp install, and the new ubuntu install. The xp dual boot used to work fine with the old ubuntu install grub setup, and I verified the entries are the same on both old and new install grub men
[22:13] <ikonia> ?
[22:14] <Name141> People that recived CDs before hand can't get CDs now unless they have contributed to Ubuntu or something?
[22:14] <Name141> Or "are a first time user" ?
[22:14] <Flannel> Name141: The purpose is to cut down on people who ask for CDs "just because they're free" who are otherwise perfectly capable of creating their own CDs.
[22:14] <leona> bullshiit :)
[22:15] <Name141> Flannel: I heard that
[22:15] <ikonia> bugscrash: control your language
[22:15] <Name141> Flannel: however, how do I get one ?
[22:15] <ikonia> bugscrash: sorry
[22:15] <ikonia> leona: control your language please
[22:15] <Name141> Flannel: or find out that I am "not qualified"
[22:16] <oscurochu> I need to resize an ntfs partition. Ubuntu asks me to run chkdsk on windows, but i am unable to boot windows at all. is there an option to force resize or use a alternative of chkdsk for linux?
[22:16] <Flannel> Name141: You can ask shipit for one.  If they say no and you need help getting Ubuntu, ask your LoCo if they can help you out.  either with a burned one, or a pressed one.
[22:16] <Name141> LoCo?
[22:16] <Name141> Hispanics ?
[22:16] <erUSUL> LOcal COmunity
[22:17] <Flannel> Name141: Local Community team, what country (or state, if in the US) do you live in?
[22:17] <Name141> Texas
[22:17] <Name141> North East
[22:17] <Billiard> oscurochu: yes you can force it, in the command line, im not sure about gparted
[22:17] <Flannel> Name141: Mmm, this channel isn't really the best plcae for this conversation.  If you'd like, we can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic or even #ubuntu-us
[22:18] <Billiard> oscurochu: you could try ntfsfix also, but i dont know if that will do anything
[22:18] <Name141> Ubuntu isn't on topic for ubuntu
[22:18] <Name141> alright
[22:18]  * Name141 shrugs
[22:18] <AakashPatel> Where does ubuntu keep its information about bluetooth connecitons?
[22:18] <AakashPatel> connections*
[22:18] <tsgx> yay it works!
[22:18] <Flannel> Name141: This channel is for technical support, not for conversations about Ubuntu.
[22:18] <tsgx> cu
[22:20] <dibblego> is there a command line program to scale a jpg image down?
[22:20] <caio> there is a site that can I download more gnome applets for panel?
[22:21] <erUSUL> dibblego: mogrify from imagemagik
[22:21] <BlackFate> dibblego, convert from imagemagick
[22:22] <dibblego> thanks
[22:22] <Billiard> caio: you can use the package manager, it has quite a few
[22:22] <iceroot> caio: gnome-look.org
[22:24] <giuseppe83> exit
[22:24] <kkomw> hello.  I'm looking to buy a desktop that either does NOT have any form of windows on it, either with ubuntu, or no OS at all.  anybody know any companies that do this?
[22:25] <n8tuser> msdos ?
[22:25] <mickster04> kkomw, it might be cheaper to buy the components sepera
[22:25] <mickster04> te
[22:25] <kkomw> well i want to buy like a sort of the top of the line computer.. cuz i'll probably put a performance edition of XP on 'later'
[22:26] <kkomw> for gaming
[22:26] <erUSUL> kkomw: dell sell ubuntu machines; system76 does it too. and my favourite buy parts and build the machine yourself ;)
[22:26] <mickster04> kkomw, yeah still probably better to buy components and build
[22:27] <exqqqqqq> i d'ont understand why "It will give you errors saying that "the system couldn't install ....." after that" dont happend
[22:27] <kkomw> hmm, i don't have much expertise in the area, maybe that'll be a new project lol
[22:27] <joaopinto> kkomw, there aren't much games that you can run on Ubuntu that require an extreme gaming machine :)
[22:27] <kkomw> i was gunna put windows on later.. like a performance edition that doesn't take up much space just for a couple games
[22:27] <mickster04> kkomw, joaopinto whats wrong with playonlinux
[22:28] <kkomw> well what sort of graphix cards does ubuntu do well with gaming, my current ATI doesn't do so well
[22:28] <SpacePigeon> does my fstab need to have an entry for the /dev/scd1 ?
[22:28] <joaopinto> michaelgilch, right, wine... for extreme gaming...
[22:29] <joaopinto> ops, was mickster04
[22:29] <lenswipe> ID RATHER HAVE A  BOWL OF COCOPOPS!
[22:29] <erUSUL> !caps| lenswipe
[22:29] <kkomw> lol well nontheless, i just want a laptop that doesn't have windows on it currently, so i can put an edition i want on later.. for gaming.. you said system76? or something?
[22:29] <kkomw> desktop**..
[22:29] <Insomniac``> Hey guys. I need a little help. I was upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 and it seems that my power went out during the upgrade. I'm now stuck in recovery console, and wanting to start networking, but "start networking" and "/etc/init.d/networking start" does not work. What do I need to do?
[22:29] <lenswipe> erUSUL, yeah i just prefer caps :)
[22:30] <Insomniac``> Idk if I'd have to go to #ubuntu+1 for that \o/
[22:31] <josef_> How do I install Skype with ubuntu?  I don't see it listed in Synaptic Package Manager.  I see skytools
[22:31] <joaopinto> josef_, you need to get it from skype's site
[22:31] <Insomniac``> Download skype from the website itself, using the Debian/Ubuntu release. It works.
[22:32] <LogicFan> josef_, skype website
[22:32] <Name141> oh yes, will there be ATI binaries again in the next release ?
[22:32] <Name141> I heard there was non in Jaunty
[22:32] <Name141> none
[22:32] <gorship> is this tech support...
[22:32] <gorship> i need help so bad right now
[22:33] <mickster04> yes
[22:33] <mickster04> to a degree
[22:33] <mickster04> :p
[22:33] <Insomniac``> gorship, you need to stat what you need help wtih \o/
[22:33] <gorship> kay
[22:33] <gorship> im installing my nividia card.. and
[22:33] <gorship> -> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko
[22:33] <Helsinkiii> hi
[22:33] <airforceguy> Guys...i am having problem with the speed of my internet ..it seems to be working slow since i switch from windows anything i can do to make it faster?
[22:33] <Klauss> how i can install a odc server?
[22:33] <Helsinkiii> just installed ubuntu about an hour ago, and need some help to get the JDK working
[22:34] <spO> ubuntu will be karmic on the 31st right?  is it better to do a clean install does it really make a difference?
[22:34] <Helsinkiii> i have some work to do so i need to be able to compile ASAP
[22:34] <Insomniac``> How would I start networking in Recovery console?
[22:34] <josef_> I don't see Skype available for 9.04 jaunty.  Should I download 8.04 or 8.10?
[22:35] <Insomniac``> Either works, josef_.
[22:35] <mickster04> josef_, 8.10 it hasnt been updated in AGES!
[22:35] <arghh2d2> spO: my opinion is to wait a couple months after it comes out for bug fixes to be implemented, new releases always have bugs
[22:35] <mickster04> but is going to be soon(tm)
[22:35] <VCoolio> spO: ask #ubuntu+1, do a clean install if you want ext4 (which is default in karmic)
[22:35] <airforceguy> which version of ubuntu is more stable guys?
[22:35] <gorship> can someone who knows how to install nvidia cards pm me please... my comp is freaking out at me whenever i restart and i need help
[22:35] <leona> josef_, http://ubuntuway.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/skype-en-ubuntu-9-04/
[22:35] <mickster04> airforceguy, prolly jaunty atm
[22:35] <spO> is there much difference between a clean install and upgrading from jaunty to karmic?
[22:36] <domo> spO: grub2 to name one
[22:36] <arghh2d2> sp0 clean install usually work better than upgrades
[22:36] <mickster04> sp0... ext4
[22:36] <domo> that too
[22:36] <BoxMagnet> has anyone ever had a laptop drive get to 65 degree celcius
[22:36] <BoxMagnet> ?
[22:37] <mickster04> BoxMagnet, yes
[22:37] <airforceguy> mickster04: ??? sorry is that a software
[22:37] <BoxMagnet> mickster04, i figured out why my laptop was getting so hot lol
[22:37] <mickster04> airforceguy, no its the file format
[22:37] <gorship> yo... -> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko
[22:37] <gorship> help
[22:37] <Helsinkiii> does anyone know how to get JDk working in ubuntu?
[22:37] <BoxMagnet> mickster04, at first I thought it was ubuntu lol, but then i took the laptop HD out and i ripped the stupid black plastic off of it
[22:37] <mattgyver> domo, grub2 will not be installed with an upgrade?
[22:37] <mickster04> BoxMagnet, my laptop usually crashed soon after
[22:37] <domo> mattgyver: nope
[22:38] <BoxMagnet> mickster04, yea, i fixed it. the plastic, for heatshielding or whatever, was making it get real hot
[22:38] <mattgyver> domo, interesting
[22:38] <mickster04> mattgyver, u can manually install it anyway
[22:38] <mattgyver> mickster04, thats what i was kinda thinking
[22:39] <dmulholland> hey, i saw a post on the net about using /etc/exports to share files across linux and it seemed simple... does it work in Ubuntu?
[22:39] <asteroid> hello, running 9.10 I would like to disable (not uninstall) NetworkManager. I disable nm-applet in "preferences → start applications" and via gnome-terminal I did "sudo update-rc.d -f network-manager remove". I reboot. But NetworkManager still manage eth0 and run (seen in `ps`)
[22:39] <asteroid> can someone tell me how to disable NM please ?
[22:39] <BoxMagnet> dmulholland, yes, its called nfs its much better than samba
[22:39] <iceroot> asteroid: #ubuntu+1
[22:40] <tarelerulz> My hardware clock and my time on Ubuntu 9.04  are all ways and hour off from one other .  try to fix it ,but it don't stick .  What can I do
[22:40] <asteroid> iceroot, thx
[22:41] <dmulholland> BoxMagnet: is it as simple as adding /home/drive <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>(rw) to it or what do you do afterwards to "activate" or how do you connect another machine and mount?
[22:41] <doug_f> what is a good xml editor for gnome?
[22:42] <airforceguy> anyone can tell me how to install frostwire plz...need help
[22:42] <iceroot> doug_f: xmlspy with wine :( there arent any good editors for xml, just gedit and so on
[22:42] <exqqqqqq> why the tutorial is not obvious ?
[22:42] <xim_> how can i reinstall my sound drivers? my sound randomly went dead
[22:42] <airforceguy> iceroot: any idea bout frostwire
[22:42] <gorship> can someone help me please :)
[22:42] <iceroot> airforceguy: no
[22:42] <iceroot> !ask | gorship
[22:42] <r0b3r> gorship, what happen?
[22:43] <BoxMagnet> dmulholland, sorry, i am leaving but, here,
[22:43] <BoxMagnet> !nfs
[22:43] <gorship> im getting an error: -> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko
[22:43] <iceroot> airforceguy: downloaded from the webiste?
[22:43] <exqqqqqq> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#GUI i don't understand bulletpoint 8
[22:44] <iceroot> exqqqqqq: what you want to do?
[22:45] <gorship> anyone.. -> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko
[22:45] <exqqqqqq> iceroot: getting my grub back next to windows installation
[22:45] <iceroot> gorship: installed the nvidia-driver by yourself or using a driver from the repo?
[22:45] <iceroot> !grub | exqqqqqq
[22:46] <gorship> i downloaded the driver from nvidia, and followed a guide i found online, then stopped gdm and ran the installer through command line and got that error
[22:47] <airforceguy> iceroot: i can but it won't install
[22:47] <iceroot> !details | airforceguy
[22:47] <exqqqqqq> iceroot: ubuntu server is not a livecd
[22:47] <Insomniac``> Hey guys. Does anyone know how to fix read-only filesystem?
[22:47] <iceroot> exqqqqqq: then use a live-cd
[22:47] <erUSUL> Insomniac``: root filesystem ?
[22:47] <mickster04> whenever i open a new window it always does so maximised, how do i fix this?
[22:47] <Insomniac``> yeah /
[22:47] <Insomniac``> ext3
[22:48] <erUSUL> Insomniac``: linux mounts read only the filesystem if it finds serious errors in it during boot.
[22:48] <iceroot> gorship: is the driver for your kernel/system and architektur? why not using the driver from the repos?
[22:48] <exqqqqqq> iceroot: and no way with ubuntu serveur
[22:48] <m0ar> Transmission downloads in a maximum of 5-7KB/s, then drops.. Everything  works fine on windows etc, what may be wrong?
[22:48] <erUSUL> Insomniac``: boot to a livecd and check the filesystem with e2fsck ( see man e2fsck  )
[22:48] <iceroot> exqqqqqq: again, then use a live-cd
[22:48] <gorship> see im brand new to ubuntu, i installed 9.04 and whats repos? will that work?
[22:49] <Insomniac``> erUSUL: i was doing upgrading, it probably came to the final part saying yes or no to things for final confirmation, and i guess that did it
[22:49] <iceroot> !nvidia | gorship
[22:49] <m0ar> gorship: Repos are "pools" of packages that you download.
[22:49] <mickster04> m0ar, could be internet seeders lan, router anythign?
[22:49] <Insomniac``> erUSUL: i've already done a 'fsck -f,' is there any difference between the two?
[22:49] <m0ar> gorship: All the usual ones work from scratch
[22:49] <erUSUL> Insomniac``: no
[22:49] <m0ar> mickster04: Seed is fine, my router should be fine
[22:49] <gorship> i got the nvidia 9500m GE series..
[22:49] <gorship> if it helps lol
[22:49] <erUSUL> Insomniac``: both are the same but -f may be not enough
[22:50] <m0ar> mickster04: works flawlessly in win7
[22:50] <mickster04> m0ar, its frankly unlikely to be ubuntu,
[22:50] <Insomniac``> well it was working perfectly fine before, and i know it's from an update. does that count for anything, erUSUL?
[22:50] <SirTopHat> if I'm doing an apt-get, and what I'm apt-gettting has unmet dependencies, is there some way to have it just install anything it needs on its own?
[22:50] <Insomniac``> from 9.04=>9.10 power outage during update
[22:50] <m0ar> mickster04: Some settings could surely screw things up
[22:50] <mickster04> admittedly possible, but shouldnt be that
[22:50] <mickster04> m0ar, well check limiting?
[22:50] <alexande1> alexander +i
[22:51] <erUSUL> Insomniac``: dunno; but i doubt any operation during upgrade could remount the filesystem ro ...
[22:51] <m0ar> mickster04: Wich is?
[22:51] <mickster04> m0ar, well edit>preferences
[22:51] <trism> SirTopHat: that is what apt-get will do by default
[22:51] <m0ar> mickster04: Oh, that's fine
[22:51] <Insomniac``> hmm guess gotta go see what i can do then. brb lol
[22:51] <mickster04> m0ar, then its very unlikely to be the OS, do u use a proxy
[22:51] <SirTopHat> well it didn't, meh.
[22:51] <airforceguy> iceroot: sure, well i have ubuntu 9.10 and tried installing frostwire I downloaded and i think i did even installed it. but can not seem to have the icon or the software anywhere in my pc...please can u advise me to uninstall from terminal cuz it's not anywhere in my pc and also advise me to install it again. i have the file in my desktop
[22:51] <SirTopHat> also, can I get dpkg to do that?
[22:52] <m0ar> mickster04: Nope :)
[22:52] <airforceguy> iceroot: brb please advise
[22:52] <iceroot> airforceguy: #ubuntu+1
[22:52] <trism> SirTopHat: what package are you trying to install where it didn't work?
[22:52] <mickster04> m0ar, well i cant think of anything then
[22:52] <m0ar> mickster04: Wierd...
[22:52] <m0ar> Hey
[22:52] <mickster04> ya
[22:52] <m0ar> mickster04: I haven't forwarded my linux ports
[22:52] <SirTopHat> angry ip scanner
[22:52] <SirTopHat> I've decided to just wine the windows version
[22:52] <m0ar> mickster04: Is it nothing more than forwarding them in the router, no screwing in ubuntu?
[22:53] <mickster04> m0ar, i believe things like that would be either on or off...
[22:53] <SirTopHat> because I don't feel like installing all this other stuff
[22:53] <cesare> ciao
[22:53] <eugene_> any gnuplot users here?
[22:53] <mickster04> m0ar, try it but i doubt it would have much effect, it would either connect or not#
[22:54] <mickster04> not trickle
[22:54] <m0ar> mickster04: Well, some limitations
[22:54] <finn_11> Hello, Can i simply ask a couple of questions here or should i do so in private?
[22:54] <erUSUL> !ask |  finn_11
[22:55] <mickster04> finn_11, go for it if they are about ubuntu
[22:55] <SirTopHat> eh, didn't work
[22:55] <mow> is there a script recommended to show current command in xterm in xterm title bar?
[22:55] <linux> ubuntu server español
[22:55] <finn_11> what type of partitions does ubuntu need? can both the system and the swap partitions be logical or do i need them to be primary?
[22:55] <mow> like preexec
[22:56] <erUSUL> finn_11: any partition type would do.
[22:56] <ctmjr> !es | linux
[22:56] <finn_11> even if they are on the same extended partition with WIN's drives?
[22:57] <krummaluf> im using kde format kid
[22:57] <erUSUL> finn_11: yep
[22:57] <linux> en español como
[22:57] <finn_11> ok
[22:57] <erUSUL> linux: /join #ubuntu-es
[22:58] <linux> gracias
[22:58] <airforceguy> is there any program like winamp for linux?
[22:58] <infidx> how do i enable 3D acceleratoin for my video card?
[22:58] <finn_11> so what limitions, if any, do i have regarding partitions' size, type and location?
[22:58] <erUSUL> infidx: model ? ati nvidia s3 ...
[22:59] <infidx> erUSUL nvidia geforce
[22:59] <erUSUL> finn_11: the partition holding /boot/ needs to be reacheable by bios so the boot loader works
[22:59] <Artisticleo> New user channel for someone wanting to learn how to use Server edition from scratch somewhere?
[22:59] <mickster04> finn_11, well normally swap is the same as ur RAM, but you prolly don't need it if u have more that 1GB
[22:59] <erUSUL> infidx: system>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[22:59] <domo> Meow!
[22:59] <matelot> guys, need help w/ sound: I unplug USB speakers to take laptop w/ me. Comes back, plug speakers back, now sound not coming out
[23:00] <Bodsda> finn_11: basically all that is 'needed' is / and /boot -- they can be on the same partition but it is good practive to place /home on a seperate partition
[23:00] <matelot> this is JJ
[23:00] <infidx> are there any internal or external wifi cards that run in all versions of ubuntu, ie dont require any drivers to run?
[23:00] <Peter101> matelot: restart driver
[23:00] <finn_11> cool.
[23:00] <finn_11> is there a way to create the ubuntu partitions in advance through win xp with something like partition magic and then just direct the installation there?
[23:00] <riley> how often should we run fsck?
[23:00] <mickster04> infidx, i've heard good reports about belkin
[23:01] <matelot> peter101 how ?
[23:01] <zorael> How can I send STOP and CONT signals to processes from a terminal?
[23:01] <riley> or is it something that should only be done IF there is an issue?
[23:01] <Bodsda> infidx: all wifi cards require kernel modules, but most are supported
[23:01] <infidx> mickster04 negative. i just returned a belkin to best buy because it didnt work
[23:01] <matelot> here is sound: http://imgur.com/p0nZq.png
[23:01] <Peter101> matelot, Press Ctrl Alt Backspace that will work too :)
[23:01] <RobotCow> Peter101, if NoZap in Xorg.conf
[23:01] <Billiard> zorael: man kill
[23:01] <infidx> ctrl-alt-backspace should be disabled by default like in fedora, that stuff is dangerous
[23:02] <mickster04> well i have this random crappy wireless usb drive that wasnt supported in windows without internet access, and ubuntu just works
[23:02] <matelot> peter101, but I restarted as well as shutdown b4 I come up here
[23:02] <domo> mickster04: coool!! :)
[23:02] <mow> the preexec is for a bash shell
[23:02] <mickster04> infidx, what version are u running]
[23:03] <Artisticleo> I just installed Server edition on a poweredge 2300/400, would like to start building this thing up for pushing small web pages and FTP, but I'm clueless how to use it. Any places I could educate myself?
[23:03] <infidx> jaunty
[23:03] <Insomniac``> I did some looking around in / and saw that there's files called "vmlinuz" and "vmlinuz.old" same with initrd.img. could this be the reason that i may be having issues?
[23:03] <zorael> Billiard: Thanks.
[23:03] <mickster04> infidx, its impressive that it didnt work:/
[23:03] <RobotCow> i have two similar packages in the repos, what is the difference?
[23:03] <RobotCow> chris@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install icecast
[23:03] <RobotCow> icecast2        icecast-server
[23:04] <Insomniac``> apt-get info icecast2 and apt-get info icecast-server
[23:04] <Billiard> Artisticleo: google, or ubuntu's website
[23:04] <Insomniac``> either apt-get or apt-cache.
[23:04] <trism> Insomniac``: vmlinuz is just a link to your latest kernel
[23:04] <finn_11> is there a way to create the ubuntu partitions in advance through win xp with something like partition magic and then just direct the installation there?
[23:05] <Insomniac``> trism, would you happen to know how to take the ext3 filesystem out of read-only mode?
[23:05] <infidx> mickster04 it was an external usb wifi belkin and it got detected by ifconfig but failed to work or anythin beyond that as if drivers werent installed, but it only came with windows drivers
[23:05] <supermatthew> so aparently ehcp does more than it advertises
[23:05] <RobotCow> Insomniac``, you must be thinking yum info package because thats not a valid apt-get command
[23:05] <Insomniac``> apt-cache then idk. one of the two lolo
[23:05] <Insomniac``> lol*
[23:07] <supermatthew> altough i never advertised or even remotly made anyway for people to make sites, i just deleted a 2 gig site full of random pirated software
[23:07] <RobotCow> Insomniac``, appears to be the same thing twice so im installing the one thats a newer version
[23:07] <supermatthew> then immideatly deleted ehcp
[23:07] <finn_11> is there a way to create the ubuntu partitions in advance through win xp with something like partition magic and then just direct the installation there?
[23:08] <Insomniac``> RobotCow: that's kind of funny that there's two. i didn't even know the ubuntu repos had icecast.
[23:08] <erUSUL> finn_11: you can boot the ubuntu livecd and do the paritions from it prior to install
[23:08] <RobotCow> Insomniac``, ive got a bunch of repos enabled and PPAs
[23:08] <Insomniac``> haha i see. that might explain it
[23:10] <Kcmatt> Hello everyone, I have just installed the drivers for my wireless adapter and if I type ndiswrapper -l into the terminal it tells me that the drivers are installed correctly, unfortunately when i plug the device in it is not recognised, as in the system does not do anything. What can I do?
[23:10] <RobotCow> Insomniac``, including git clones and customized vanilla kernel with patched wifi drivers :]
[23:10] <Insomniac``> nice lol
[23:11] <Finn012> 1
[23:12] <blkdg> hi does anyone here play urban terror UT?
[23:12] <blkdg> on ubuntu or anyhting else?
[23:13] <rasstar> which desktop do most people use? kubuntu or ubuntu? i am leaning towards kubuntu
[23:13] <existed_> HEyy
[23:13] <existed_> any1 here?
[23:13] <existed_> any1 here
[23:13] <Edson`> rassatar: I use Ubuntu, but that's just me.
[23:13] <trism> Kcmatt: do you see anything on dmesg when you plug in the device? (such as ndiswrapper: driver wusb54g ... loaded) and does ndiswrapper -l list "device present" next to the driver after you plug it in?
[23:13] <mickster04> yeah
[23:13] <mickster04>  why?
[23:13] <blkdg> existed_, just ask your question
[23:14] <existed_> ohh does any1 here have storch
[23:14] <mow> existed_ > I'm down town
[23:14] <existed_> i got 250 gold
[23:14] <eido> has anyone installed wacom tablet in ubuntu?
[23:14] <rasstar> do all the applications work with kubuntu and ubuntu
[23:14] <existed_> 250 bills 4 an storch
[23:14] <rasstar> i don't like the ubuntu desktop at all
[23:14] <trism> rasstar: yes they will work in both
[23:14] <Billiard> rasstar: all the progs on kubuntu work on ubuntu
[23:15] <Finn012> why do i get "Ubuntu cannot create the partition" error during partitioning part of installation?
[23:15] <Kcmatt> trism: The last line from the output of dmesg is "usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper" and that doesn't change when the adpater is plugged in. also ndiswrapper -l onyl tells me that the driver is installed :(
[23:17] <mickster04> whenever i open a new window it always does so maximised, how do i fix this?
[23:17] <foul_owl> anyone know how to set up a bridge? I need to bridge wlan0 and eth0 in order to provide dhcp to my wired network. eth0 is not connected to anything yet.
[23:18] <trism> Kcmatt: what device are you trying to get to work?
[23:18] <Kcmatt> its a Belkin Wireless Adapter, The F5D7051 :)
[23:18] <aXaXin> hello world!
[23:18] <aXaXin> :)
[23:18] <The_Jag1> hi all
[23:18] <fx> hi, I installed a server with an encrypted partition (LUKS) and now i need to reboot it via ssh, but cant get to physical location to type in the password, can i disable the key until reboot?
[23:18] <aXaXin> i have a problem with my ATI X700
[23:19] <Roey> hey all
[23:19] <Roey> question
[23:19] <Finn012> does anybody know why do i get the "Ubuntu cannot create the partition" error during partitioning part of installation?
[23:19] <Roey> how do I /remove/ Grub from /dev/md0 (that is, /dev/sd{a.b}1) so that the system boots off of /dev/md1 (that is, /dev/sd{a,b}2) ??
[23:19] <The_Jag1> I have a problem with my sd/memorystick slot of my notebook: it can read-write SD but it can't detect Sony's Memorystick
[23:20] <nightshade> maybe not enough space for the amount of space you wanted to make it?
[23:20] <aXaXin> in 9.04 xorg-driver-fglrx makes the laptop fail to start
[23:20] <nightshade> ie. I wanna make a 100GB partition when there's only 50 GB left on hard drive
[23:20] <rasstar> is ubuntu 64bit stable? shoudl i install it over 32bit
[23:21] <quimkaos> mmm is empathy a mod of pidgin?
[23:21] <aXaXin> i have to reboot in recovery mode and make apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[23:21] <Billiard> rasstar: 64 bit is stable, flash doesnt work as well though, that is all i have had problems with
[23:21] <nightshade> anyway, I wanna know where I can find support for web desktop (HTML page on HD) so I can animate/customize my desktop w/ javascript.
[23:21] <The_Jag1> pls anyone?
[23:21] <eido> foul_owl, maybe bridge-utils
[23:21] <mickster04> rasstar, if u have a 64bit system
[23:22] <Finn012> anybody know why do i get the "Ubuntu cannot create the partition" error during partitioning part of installation?
[23:22] <aXaXin> ..... lol too much questions at one time....
[23:22] <Kcmatt> Trism: It is the Belkin F5D7051 :)
[23:22] <rasstar> flash doesn't work well? downloading 32bit then
[23:22] <fx> Finn012, boot live CD
[23:22] <aXaXin> does anyone have a legacy ATI working perfectly with ubuntu 9.04 and above?
[23:23] <nightshade> *ahem*
[23:23] <foul_owl> eido: i have tried several tutorials, they use bridge-utils, but none have worked so far
[23:24] <foul_owl> eido: i think the tutorials some how come into conflict with gnome's network manager, but not sure how
[23:24] <eido> foul_owl, not sure then I have usually been able to get away with just defining a route
[23:24] <[B]randon> how would i install my logitech headset so it works on linux? D:
[23:25] <Finn012> how would live CD help me?
[23:25] <mattgyver> Does anyone know if its possible to serve a java applet which may connect to an outside VNC connection in ubuntu?
[23:25] <nightshade> i wanna script my desktop (gfx show stuff on desktop, and generally code stuff onto my desktop) does anybody know about utils/software for ubuntu I could do that with?
[23:25] <SirTopHat> I've been reading about file permissions, but I haven't seen how to only allow a user to see/edit his own files
[23:25] <foul_owl> eido: thanks anyway!!
[23:25] <aXaXin> does anyone have a legacy ATI working perfectly with ubuntu 9.04 and above? (repeated.... anyone?
[23:26] <Billiard> SirTopHat: you mean not able to see files in other users home directories?
[23:26] <SirTopHat> yes
[23:26] <fx> Finn012, if the disk is impossible to partition (hardware error) you will find out with a live CD, by manually partitioning it or running some diag
[23:27] <nightshade> what do you wanna do, foul_owl?
[23:27] <Billiard> SirTopHat: setting the home directories to 750 should work
[23:27] <fx> Finn012, if you dont want to / cant run the desktop version of the live CD, try Rescue Remix, its very light
[23:27] <foul_owl> nightshade: bridge eth0 and wlan0. getting dhcp from wlan0. eth0 will be connected to a switch.
[23:27] <fx> Finn012, guess
[23:28] <krummaluf> i am using kde do u like that
[23:28] <nightshade> so, you wanna broadcast eth0 through wifi, possibly wanting to share connection with a second computer, correct?  (or other way around)
[23:29] <foul_owl> nightshade: other way around. i have one computer that can pick up the wifi signal of the router, and i need to use that computer to forward dhcp to my wired network in my room
[23:29] <aXaXin> hello
[23:29] <Billiard> foul_owl: stealing internet? lol
[23:30] <foul_owl> billiard: ha, nope. router is a POS!!
[23:30] <eido> Billiard, or doesnt feel like running wire
[23:30] <aXaXin> hi there
[23:30] <nightshade> hmm.  If you wanna get wifi and put it out to your network, get a linksys wifi router and configure it to recieve as an uplink
[23:30] <nightshade> I've heard they can do that
[23:30] <foul_owl> router is a belkin, signal barely goes 30 feet lol
[23:30] <Scotch> Hi there
[23:30] <rictec> aXaXin, hi
[23:30] <nightshade> oh
[23:30] <aXaXin> does anyone have a legacy ATI working perfectly with ubuntu 9.04 and above?
[23:31] <foul_owl> i would get a linksys and install openwrt and boost signal lol
[23:31] <nightshade> then make a long distance antenna.  I could tell you how over pm
[23:31] <Scotch> aXaXin: I have an HD3200 working perfectly, don't know what you exactly mean by legacy though
[23:31] <fx> cantenna ?
[23:31] <foul_owl> but i need to be able to solve this now.
[23:31] <aXaXin> the older ones
[23:31] <foul_owl> i was thinking about a cantenna
[23:31] <eido> foul_owl, i think wrt
[23:31] <eido> sorry supports belkin models too
[23:32] <aXaXin> mine's a X700, Scotch
[23:32] <foul_owl> but it needs to support signal boost
[23:32] <foul_owl> i need to learn how to make network bridges anyway
[23:32] <foul_owl> very useful
[23:32] <Kcmatt> Hello everyone, I have just installed the drivers for my wireless adapter and if I type ndiswrapper -l into the terminal it tells me that the drivers are installed correctly, unfortunately when i plug the device in it is not recognised, as in the system does not do anything. What can I do?
[23:32] <Scotch> aXaXin: back in the day I have been able to get my X600 perfectly working.
[23:32] <trism> Kcmatt: the third post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2175921 describes a method that may work, problem sounds similar, and same device
[23:32] <eido> yeah i bridged my two linksys but never two nics on one box
[23:32] <nightshade> i dont know how to make net bridges
[23:33] <aXaXin> Scotch: now i finaly updated to 9.04 lol and it doesn't work well with fglrx
[23:33] <supermatthew> Ubuntu may need to rethink its naminng scheme, cause in 100 years, its gona have the same version releases
[23:33] <nightshade> fowl_owl: but I do know how to crack security-enabled networks if they ever put in a password...
[23:34] <[B]randon> does apt-get full-upgrade work?
[23:34] <aXaXin> Scotch: in fact afer reboot the X didn't start and i had to boot in recovery mode and do apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx..... any solutions?
[23:34] <phix> Morning
[23:34] <Billiard> supermatthew: im sure there will be confusion in 100 years, which version are you using?, 9.04, the new one of the one from 100 years ago?
[23:34] <Scotch> aXaXin: wow, you're doing it wrong
[23:34] <aXaXin> after that it booted perfectly
[23:34] <phix> I am back to provide my technical experience again :)
[23:34] <aXaXin> Scotch: teach me lol
[23:34] <Scotch> aXaXin: there's a configuration tool for automatically setting up your xorg.conf
[23:35] <phix> I like Scotch! Scotch, Scotch, Scotch!
[23:35] <foul_owl> anyway, so if anyone knows how to bridge wlan0 and eth0, please tell me
[23:35] <phix> foul_owl: I do
[23:35] <Scotch> aXaXin: just go to ATI's website and download the driver. Make it executable and run it as sudo (just make sure you shut down X before you do)
[23:35] <aXaXin> Scotch: go on you're speaking well :)
[23:35] <foul_owl> phix: can you help? i need to get dhcp from wlan0 and forward it on to eth0
[23:36] <phix> foul_owl: brctl addbr br0
[23:36] <phix> foul_owl: brctl addif br0 eth0
[23:36] <phix> foul_owl: brctl addif br0 wlan0
[23:36] <m0ar> rofl @ rauturi's quit msg
[23:36] <foul_owl> phix: did those
[23:36] <foul_owl> phix: nothing really happened
[23:36] <aXaXin> Scotch: ok so far so good... the problem is.. the new driver don't support my board.... and the older driver arent suported by xorg2 :P lol
[23:36] <phix> foul_owl: brctl show
[23:36] <supermatthew> Poll: VI or nano
[23:36] <trism> Kcmatt: ignore the compiling the latest version of ndiswrapper, since the thread is about edgy which is really old
[23:36] <phix> foul_owl: well you need to assign an IP address to br0 now
[23:37] <phix> foul_owl: I am assuming you havn't set an IP address for wlan0 or eth0
[23:37] <[B]randon> does apt-get full-upgrade work?
[23:37] <[B]randon> does apt-get full-upgrade work?
[23:37] <foul_owl> phix: wlan0 is currently connected to dhcp
[23:37] <davidstriga> Does anyone know where I can find a channel for a budding python user?
[23:37] <Scotch> aXaXin: that sucks real bad. Did you try running ati-config tool ? can't remember the name exactly
[23:37] <phix> foul_owl: no it shouldn't be
[23:37] <Billiard> [B]randon: dont have to ask twice, why wouldnt it work
[23:37] <foul_owl> er
[23:37] <[B]randon> dont know lol
[23:37] <phix> foul_owl: eth0 and wlan0 should not have an IP address, only br0 sbould
[23:37] <Scotch> aXaXin: I believe the param should be somewhere like --initial
[23:38] <aXaXin> Scotch: i don't have ati drivers installed what so ever..
[23:38] <[B]randon> Billiard, didnt think it'd work
[23:38] <foul_owl> phix: i am using the computer for irc right now
[23:38] <nightshade> cool
[23:38] <phix> foul_owl: so use another one :)
[23:38] <losha> davidstriga: I googled 'python irc channel' and there was a channel listed in the very first entry...
[23:38] <foul_owl> i did the steps before, then rebooted when it didn'y work
[23:38] <Kcmatt> tirsm: I have used that post to do the install and followed it all the way down to the bottom but when he says that Wlan0 should start up nothing happens :(
[23:38] <Kcmatt> *trism:
[23:38] <nightshade> phix: not everybody has a sh*tload of computers
[23:38] <phix> foul_owl: when you reboot you need to type in the bridge commands again
[23:38] <Scotch> aXaXin: and when you install it, it crashes, right ?
[23:39] <eido> foul_owl, can you look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing it may work for you
[23:39] <nightshade> just me and the other dorks...
[23:39] <foul_owl> phix: can you pastebin the complete command list?
[23:39] <aXaXin> Scotch: perfectly right lol
[23:39] <aXaXin> ll
[23:39] <aXaXin> now you get my problem lol
[23:39] <jimss> hi all, i would like to open a file i am using tar xvf file.tgz but is not working, any other command to  run and install this file please?
[23:39] <Scotch> aXaXin: did you install it through "Hardware Drivers" ?
[23:39] <phix> nightshade: computers->n == (2 != aShitload);
[23:39] <aXaXin> no apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[23:39] <phix> foul_owl: sure
[23:40] <losha> jimss: usually a tgz is compressed. Try tar xvzf file.tgz
[23:40] <foul_owl> eido: thanks, will look at that too!
[23:40] <davidstriga> losha: Thanks, I'll try that! but the last time I tried googleing it I found my self in a polish channel with not very friendly people in it. lol.
[23:40] <phix> foul_owl: but you want to add it into /etc/network/interfaces
[23:40] <jimss> k let me try
[23:40] <Scotch> aXaXin: try it, I believe there are more packages to install and some other configuration which this tool makes. go ahead and give this a try
[23:40] <phix> foul_owl: and since you are using Ubuntu network manager is going to screw with you
[23:40] <rictec> jimss, tar -xvzf
[23:40] <losha> davidstriga: :-)
[23:40] <phix> I hate network manager
[23:40] <Kcmatt> trism: I have noticed though that in my Network connections there doesn't seem to be a Wlan0
[23:40] <phix> It is useless and annoying
[23:40] <foul_owl> phix: i think that might have been a problem earlier
[23:40] <phix> Will the next verison of ubuntu have it?
[23:41] <trism> Kcmatt: yeah, wlan0 won't show up until ndiswrapper registers it
[23:41] <foul_owl> phix: how do i list wifi access points from command line and connect?
[23:41] <losha> phix: lots of people seem to prefer to use wicd instead of network manager...
[23:41] <trism> Kcmatt: not really sure what else to try, I don't have any experience with that particular device
[23:41] <usser> phix, like it or not NM is here to stay ;)
[23:41] <phix> what is wicd?
[23:41] <aXaXin> Scotch: it says : aticonfig is not installed, you can install it by : apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[23:41] <phix> foul_owl: iwlist wlan0 scanning
[23:42] <losha> phix: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[23:42] <phix> foul_owl: Connecting is slightly trickier, is it WPA?
[23:42] <aXaXin> Scotch: did i understand you?
[23:42] <Kcmatt> trism: Its ok :P I may just buy a new one that is fully supported as it keeps crashing in xp :)
[23:42] <Scotch> aXaXin: well install it through the Hardware Drivers software I mentionned
[23:42] <foul_owl> phix: nope
[23:42] <ctmjr> !info wicd > phix
[23:42] <phix> foul_owl: WEP? no encryptiokn?
[23:42] <aXaXin> i tried, it's empty
[23:42] <Scotch> aXaXin: it is under System->hardware drivers
[23:42] <phix> losha: thnx
[23:42] <foul_owl> phix: public wifi
[23:43] <phix> foul_owl: ok good :) makes it easier
[23:43] <phix> foul_owl: ok and another question, why do you want to bridge eth0 and wlan0 for?
[23:43] <aXaXin> no retricted or proprietary driver listed
[23:44] <phix> foul_owl: you do relise that your neighbours (ppl within 200Mtrs of your house) will be able to sniff unencrypted packets over your wlan and possibably even your wired network
[23:44] <foul_owl> i need to get internet on my main computer which has no wifi card that can pick up router signal
[23:44] <foul_owl> phix: yes, i realize this
[23:44] <phix> foul_owl: you could just use routing instead of bridging
[23:44] <foul_owl> for stuff i care about, i use https and ssh
[23:44] <aXaXin> Scotch: no restricted or proprietary driver listed
[23:44] <jack__> got a cmake error: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[23:44] <jack__>   collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[23:45] <phix> foul_owl: easier to setup and you won't get messed around by network manager
[23:45] <aXaXin> Scotch: i've been in many forums... and nothing....
[23:45] <jack__> does anyone knows which file that is or how can I find it?
[23:45] <nightshade> whats the newest question?
[23:45] <losha> jack__: something you haven't installed. apt-get install build-essentials ?
[23:45] <Scotch> aXaXin: hmm... You'll probably have to install xorg-driver-fglrx by yourself then. But get some documentation from google first, there's probably a xorg.conf that's there for X700
[23:45] <foul_owl> phix: should i just use this tutorial that eido sent : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing#Gateway%20set%20up
[23:46] <phix> foul_owl: what is your network address for wlan0 and eth0?
[23:46] <jhattara> when i mount a harddrive and try to ls it i get "reading directory .: Input/output error", the disk doesn't show at all in gparted, but lshw finds it, but with no information other than its size
[23:46] <bob1> what kida driver you would like to install ?
[23:46] <foul_owl> wlan is <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:46] <foul_owl> eth0 is not connected
[23:47] <losha> jhattara: please paste the output from sudo fdisk -l <--- that's a lowercase L
[23:47] <phix> foul_owl: also, why arnt you using WPA / or at least WEP for on your wireless network?
[23:47] <SeaPhor> foul_owl, belkin router??
[23:47] <phix> foul_owl: hmmmmmm
[23:47] <jhattara> losha, absolutely nothing on that disk
[23:47] <zealiod> how can i read what 802.11q tag is being passed from a switch to my lan port on incoming packets?
[23:47] <aXaXin> Scotch: thank's... I'll see what i can find....
[23:47] <Scotch> aXaXin: have fun and good luck
[23:47] <phix> foul_owl: You should read some tutorials, but you don't need to use NAT since you can access your wireless router and add in a manual route right?
[23:48] <phix> foul_owl: you can edit the routing table on your wireless router?
[23:48] <losha> jhattara: I'd like to know if dmesg has an entry for it. Is it sata, pata, or usb?
[23:48] <eido> phix, correct me if i wrong but foul just needs to set eth0 to the same gateway as wan0 and maybe a static in iptables
[23:48] <bob1> foul owl try to log in 2 your router
[23:48] <foul_owl> phix: i can access it, but i haven't tried yet. it probably has some really shit http interface with little to no options :P
[23:48] <jhattara> losha, pata, i'll check the dmesg
[23:48] <mQQsh> is there a way for me to view the wireless connections in Terminal?
[23:49] <phix> foul_owl: give it a go :) see if you can access the routing table
[23:49] <phix> eido: ok, I will correct you :)
[23:49] <SeaPhor> phix, if its the Belkin router i believe, it is crappy but can be done
[23:49] <quimkaos> is empathy a mod of pidgin?
[23:49] <losha> jhattara: and sudo fdisk -l also please
[23:49] <mrwes> has the feeding frenzy began?
[23:49] <losha> !slow
[23:49] <foul_owl> phix: ok never mind, i don't have the password
[23:49] <jhattara> losha, just as i said "sudo fdisk -l" gives absolutely nothing on the harddrive i have problems with
[23:49] <phix> eido: his wireless router needs to know about the network on eth0 as well, it needs to know that the gateway of it is the ip address of his computer on wlan0
[23:49] <bob1> foul_owl otherwise try a other kernel
[23:50] <phix> eido: he also needs to enable ipv4 packet forwarding in /etc/sysctl.conf or /etc/ufw/sysctl.conf
[23:50] <losha> jhattara: that's a bad sign, you understand. So does dmesg see it?
[23:50] <vigo> quimkaos: I like Empathy.
[23:50] <mbeierl> anyone else here have an asus eeepc that won't turn on (ie: power light and wifi light come on, but no bios)?
[23:50] <bob1> yes i have one
[23:50] <phix> eido: he might also want to setup a DHCP server on his computer (the one with the wireless and wired interface cards)
[23:51] <jhattara> losha, how can i see from dmesg when the data was written ?
[23:51] <bob1> mbeierl
[23:51] <phix> ~pb
[23:51] <foul_owl> ok, so i can't access my router
[23:51] <phix> !pb
[23:51] <bob1> mbeierl i have a eeepc
[23:51] <phix> foul_owl: why?
[23:51] <phix> foul_owl: hmmm then you will either need to setup NAT or bridge
[23:52] <mbeierl> bob1: ever had power-on problems?   No disk label [23:52] <SeaPhor> foul_owl, try blank passwd?
[23:52] <quimkaos> vigo you do? bu is it a mod or not?
[23:52] <SeaPhor> ooo
[23:52] <phix> foul_owl: try admin / password
[23:52] <phix> foul_owl: admin / blank password
[23:52] <mrwes> foul_owl, that's why you can't login; cuz it's not your router :P
[23:52] <jhattara> losha, i'm looking for it's dev
[23:52] <losha> jhattara: is that the disk? The 250GB on /dev/sdb ?
[23:52] <bob1> mbeierl
[23:52] <foul_owl> phix: tried those, it doesn't even ask for a username, just password
[23:53] <jhattara> losha, yeah, that's it
[23:53] <vigo> quimkaos: It is a re-write, one moment, I am pulling up the docs on it.
[23:53] <foul_owl> yes, i would rather not mess with the router. i think i would like to try setting up the bridge
[23:53] <jhattara> losha, here's the previous dmesg entry: http://pastebin.com/d19a80af0
[23:53] <SeaPhor> foul_owl, phix, it is a Belkin right?
[23:53] <losha> jhattara: that's good. that means the kernel sees it on /dev/sdb.
[23:53] <bob1> mbeierl your eepc had startup problems ?
[23:53] <foul_owl> seaphor: yes, it is, im not gonna mess with it though
[23:53] <losha> jhattara: so try sudo gparted /dev/sdb
[23:53] <SeaPhor> ok foul_owl
[23:53] <foul_owl> i would really like to learn how to set up a bridge
[23:54] <SeaPhor> look at #netorking
[23:54] <mbeierl> bob1: yes, first time - today.  Turning on with power button results in completely black screen, no backlight, no bios, no sound, and just the "lightbulb" and "wifi" lights are on.  No other activity at all
[23:54] <jhattara> losha, "/dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label" in terminal and gparted says the drive is unallocated
[23:54] <vigo> quimkaos: It is a Gnome write to replace Pidgin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy_(software)
[23:55] <quimkaos> i would love that setting screens in ubuntu were easy
[23:55] <phix> foul_owl: I told you
[23:55] <jhattara> losha, and it had a full sized ext4 partition
[23:55] <eido> foul_owl, if you have the time, read that article i think you can get away without know much about the router
[23:55] <quimkaos> ty vigo
[23:55] <foul_owl> eido: will do
[23:55] <mrwes> read?
[23:55] <piotrus> hello all
[23:55] <bob1> mbeierl try to remove your battery and clean the contacts or you already tried ?
[23:55] <foul_owl> phix: did you pastebin it? i must have missed it
[23:55] <piotrus> i have a problem, enyone talk polish?
[23:55] <vigo> quimkaos: You are quite welcome.
[23:55] <quimkaos> vigo are from vigo?
[23:56] <jack__> losha, thanks
[23:56] <SchneeSchwarz> !pl | piotrus
[23:56] <vigo> quimkaos: No, that was my Poppas middle name.
[23:56] <phix> foul_owl: no it was simple enough to write it in IRC
[23:56] <losha> jhattara: sorry, I don't use ext4. You need ext4 expert help...
[23:56] <quimkaos> ^^
[23:56] <mQQsh> whats the terminal command to view my available wifi connections?
[23:57] <phix> foul_owl: I will pastebin the /etc/network/interfaces config though
[23:57] <foul_owl> phix: just those three commands you sent me?
[23:57] <SeaPhor> mQQsh, iwlist scan
[23:57] <foul_owl> phix: thanks for all your help
[23:57] <losha> jack__: working now?
[23:57] <foul_owl> eido: thanks to you too!
[23:57] <mQQsh> seaphor: thanks
[23:57] <The_Jag1> pls help me with memorystick from sony: I read the laptop guide of ubuntu and it is listed that with my notebook built-in slot I cannot detect sony's memorystick. is there a solution or an advice for this issue?
[23:57] <phix> foul_owl: you will need to then use dhclient br0 to get an IP address
[23:57] <ncfi1013> hi
[23:58] <phix> foul_owl: then computers in your wired network will be able to access it
[23:58] <jhattara> losha, are there any other log files that might have record of the drive ? it worked fine yesterday and i haven't rebooted the computer in two weeks
[23:58] <foul_owl> phix: ooookay i get it i think
[23:58] <SirTopHat> what use does echo have?
[23:58] <foul_owl> phix: wait, how do i connect to my access point
[23:58] <foul_owl> phix: can i just use the gnome net manager
[23:59] <mgv2> keepassx is the best?
[23:59] <phix> foul_owl: no
[23:59] <phix> foul_owl: iwconfig wlan0 essid "wireless netowkr name"
[23:59] <foul_owl> phix: gotcha
[23:59] <foul_owl> phix: this is after i set up the bridge


[00:22] <savvas0> Hello! I'm trying to make a debian package for elektra <www.libelektra.org>, but I'm stuck with a libxml problem - I think that the .xsl files required are succefully detected, but probably has something to do with the headers of xml: buildlog http://paste.ubuntu.com/262218/ - kdbtools.c http://paste.ubuntu.com/262217/
[00:22] <savvas0> I would appreciate some guidance :)
[00:24] <savvas0> here are the debian/rules and control I'm currently testing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/262221/ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/262222/
[00:47] <c_korn> is there a tool which only updates specified files with a patch ?
[00:50] <Ampelbein> c_korn: i don't know, but I think you could use filterdiff < file.diff | patch ?
[00:50] <Ampelbein> c_korn: with filterdiff -i file1
[00:51] <c_korn> Ampelbein: thanks
[02:09] <slangasek> ScottK: it wasn't filed on the wrong package, but it's possible the version of lintian on cocoplum gives spurious errors there
[02:21] <slicer> apt-rdepends will show reverse deps for all packages, not just the ones I have installed locally?
[02:35] <ScottK> slangasek: OK.  I've got the current lintian installed and don't get the error.  OK if I invalid the bug?
[02:36] <slangasek> ScottK: sure
[02:37] <ScottK> Thanks.
[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[07:15] <loic-m> I've check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek and the .pdf brochure, but none of them mention #ubuntu-classroom X0
[07:15] <loic-m> Should I edit the wiki page (provided it's indeed going to be #ubuntu-classroom)?
[07:17] <dholbach> loic-m: it's on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/JoiningIn but I guess it'd be good to mention it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek too
[07:18] <dholbach> that's really weird, I was sure I added it somewhere
[07:18] <dholbach> http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=openweek.&channels=ubuntu-classroom%2Cubuntu-classroom-chat might be a good link to put there
[07:19] <dholbach> loic-m: are you adding it or shall I?
[07:20] <dholbach> thanks loic-m for letting me know - fixed it
[07:21] <dholbach> didrocks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek says "#u-classroom" for French
[07:21] <dholbach> didrocks: are you sure that's right?
[07:28] <loic-m> dholbach: thanks a lot.
[07:32] <dholbach> if you can hepl out with translating questions into English (and translating the answers back into your language) during UDW, I'd appreciate if you could add yourself to the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[07:32] <didrocks> dholbach: hey
[07:33] <didrocks> dholbach: yes, that's right. the classroom team changed the name 2 years ago and #ubuntu-fr-classroom is redirected to #u-classroom
[07:33] <dholbach> ok
[07:33] <didrocks> (because they don't push ubuntu-only classroom)
[07:33] <dholbach> it just looked a bit weird
[07:33] <didrocks> I agree, but you know... politics... :)
[07:34] <dholbach> oh well :)
[09:04] <loic-m_> I subscribed a bug to uus at the beginning of August, now it's FF do I have to unsubscribe uus and subscibe motu-release?
[09:05] <DktrKranz> loic-m_: it depends about which kind of upload you want to do
[09:05] <loic-m_> new packaging version, no code change
[09:05] <loic-m_> mainly to add a translation
[09:06] <DktrKranz> no additional features?
[09:07] <loic-m_> nope
[09:07] <loic-m_> bug #410707
[09:07] <DktrKranz> so, explicitly say so in the bug report and wait for a sponsor, it's ok not to subscribe motu-release for that kind of uploads
[09:07] <loic-m_> ok, thanks
[09:07] <DktrKranz> np
[09:08] <DktrKranz> (or at least it was when I was a motu-release member)
[09:35] <iulian> DktrKranz: Yes, you're right.  We didn't change anything.
[09:35] <iulian> loic-m_: ^
[09:36] <rowinggolfer_> multiple contradictory and confusing grub update messages this am.
[09:36] <rowinggolfer_> hope I chose the right options
[09:36] <rowinggolfer_> we'll know soon enough!
[10:17] <slytherin> rowinggolfer_: how did it go?
[10:17] <rowinggolfer_> no worries ta.
[10:18] <rowinggolfer_> was odd though
[10:18] <rowinggolfer_> I got ncurses menus warning me about my menu.lst.
[10:18] <rowinggolfer_> which I responded to
[10:18] <matteo> ciao!
[10:19] <rowinggolfer_> then the upgrade continued...
[10:19] <rowinggolfer_> then I got a message about how the menu.list had been locally modded, and did I want the dev's option.
[10:19] <matteo> i have something to ask
[10:19] <matteo> i maintain a program which depends on a library
[10:19] <rowinggolfer_> no worries though... it's karmic alpha.
[10:19] <matteo> libdmtx0
[10:19] <matteo> debian's sid and ubuntu have different versions
[10:20] <matteo> so I have ugly #ifdef in the code
[10:20] <matteo> as no other packages depends on it, can someone update it?
[10:20] <matteo> the change is trivial, no patches
[10:20] <matteo> just use the newer upstream
[10:20] <matteo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/396131
[10:21] <rowinggolfer_> matteo: who's ahead, karmic or sid??
[10:21] <matteo> sid is ahead
[10:21] <matteo> 0.7.0 as upstream
[10:21] <matteo> karmic has still 0.6.0
[10:22] <matteo> i could do it if I had dupload access
[10:22] <matteo> i have some PPA, and I was a debian mentor
[10:22] <matteo> i know the debian packaging system
[10:24] <slytherin> !ffe | matteo
[10:24] <matteo> yes, i know about freeze
[10:25] <matteo> but as i said:
[10:25] <matteo> [~/src/barqode]$ apt-cache rdepends libdmtx-utils
[10:25] <matteo> libdmtx-utils
[10:25] <matteo> Reverse Depends:
[10:25] <matteo> [~/src/barqode]$
[10:26] <matteo> i have filed the bug much time before the freeze
[10:26] <matteo> but none upgraded it
[10:26] <slytherin> matteo: Right. But you will need approval from motu-release team anyway. And change the bug description to make it a 'sync' request.
[10:26] <matteo> ok
[10:26] <matteo> i'll fille the request form?
[10:27] <matteo> slytherin: the wiki says to file a bug, that's done already
[10:28] <matteo> i'll diff the upstream changelog too
[10:33] <matteo> updated the bug with the requested info
[10:44] <rowinggolfer_> matteo: the app you've developed is not packaged for ubuntu?
[10:45] <matteo> no
[10:45] <matteo> it's a simple qt app
[10:45] <matteo> qmake && make
[10:45] <matteo> wann it?
[10:45] <matteo> *wanna it?
[10:45] <matteo> it behaves weird with oldlibdmtx
[10:45] <matteo> sometimes it doesn't zoom etc.
[10:46] <matteo> also in the code i force 1 bit per pixel, and I get 24
[10:46] <matteo> that's why I use 0.7.0
[10:46] <matteo> works good in debian and OS X
[10:46] <matteo> and obviously in ubuntu compiled from sources ;)
[10:47] <matteo> http://teknoraver.net/software/barqode.tar.bz2
[11:11] <loic-m_> Is anyone also facing problems with ga.debian.org redirection when using uscan on sourceforge projects?
[11:11] <loic-m_> I tried with my project, doesn't work anymore, and latest audacity watch file gives me the same error
[11:11] <loic-m_> "no matching hrefs for watch line"
[11:12] <directhex> loic-m_, yes, sf redirects are broken
[11:14] <loic-m_> thanks directhex
[11:14] <loic-m_> Is this only temporary (i.e. can I keep the watch file as it was before)?
[11:15] <directhex> i don't know the timescale for fixing it
[11:16] <loic-m_> ok
[11:35] <pochu> loic-m_: it's temporary, so keep it broken for now
[11:35] <pochu> it will eventually work again
[11:35] <loic-m_> thanks pochu
[13:53] <sluimers> Can someone help me this? -> http://tinyurl.com/ljauml
[13:53] <sluimers>  /build/buildd/ika-0.62~39/engine/script.cpp:26: undefined reference to `Py_InitModule4_64'
[13:54] <slytherin> sluimers: You mean help with understanding the error?
[13:55] <sluimers> yes
[13:56] <slytherin> are the build dependencies correct?
[13:56] <slytherin> I mean this looks like the application is not compatible with the version of library against which it is getting linked.
[13:57] <sluimers> My build-dependencies are: corona, libaudiere-dev, libaudiere-1.9.4, libwxgtk2.8-0, libwxgtk2.8-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, libwxgtk2.6-0, libwxgtk2.6-dev, zlib1g-dev, python-wxgtk2.6, python-wxgtk2.8, python2.4-dev, python2.5-dev, python2.6-dev
[13:58] <sluimers> I'm pretty sure it isn't dependent on python 3.0
[13:58] <sluimers> and it only has this problem in the amd64 version.
[14:43] <slytherin> sluimers: why have you added build dependencies for all python version?
[14:44] <slytherin> sluimers: also you have added 2 wxgtk versions
[14:47] <sluimers> I thought I might need them. I did them away now, except for version 2.6.
[14:50] <_Fauchi95_> Hello! How can I submit a new package?
[14:52] <runasand> _Fauchi95_: you upload the package to http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/
[14:54] <_Fauchi95_> runasand, an how can I do this? sorry, but I don't can see a upload file
[14:55] <directhex> _Fauchi95_, you use dput to upload your source package
[14:56] <_Fauchi95_> directhex, ok, thanks
[14:56] <runasand> _Fauchi95_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[14:56] <ScottK> _Fauchi95_: You should know that we are finished accepting New packages for Karmic.
[14:57] <eurythmia> ScottK, only package bugfixes/patches now?
[14:57] <ScottK> Yes.
[14:57] <ScottK> Plenty of that to do.
[14:57] <eurythmia> does that include upstream bugfixes/patches?
[14:57] <_Fauchi95_> ScottK, yes, I now, but if I had a bugfix?
[14:57] <ScottK> Yes
[14:57] <eurythmia> cool, thanks.
[14:57] <directhex> _Fauchi95_, then it's not "a new package"
[14:58] <_Fauchi95_> directhex, but I must upload it on revu, too?
[14:58] <runasand> _Fauchi95_: patches can be submitted in a bug report
[14:58] <directhex> _Fauchi95_, file a bug, attach a debdiff representing the update
[14:58] <_Fauchi95_> hey, cool, this is easy *g*
[14:59] <_Fauchi95_> as needs-packaging? no, it's packing. what categorie?
[15:00] <bddebian> Heya gang
[15:00] <_Fauchi95_> @runasand, directhex
[15:00] <directhex> _Fauchi95_, file it against the package you're updating
[15:01] <_Fauchi95_> thanks
[16:31] <loic-m_> RainCT: hi
[16:34] <sluimers> Hey there, I'm trying to upload something to PPA, but for some reason the app doesn't go into the package -> http://tinyurl.com/kr52jz
[16:35] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 25 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:37] <RainCT> loic-m_: hi
[16:37] <ScottK> sluimers: #launchpad handles PPAs.
[16:38] <sluimers> okay
[16:43] <loic-m_> RainCT: do I need to do something else for gmameui, or is the upload to REVU sufficient?
[16:44] <RainCT> loic-m_: It's enough, I already uplodaded. Just not sure what will happen as it's past FF
[16:46] <loic-m_> RainCT: ok, thanks. Hopefully it gets in ;)
[17:19] <jetienne__> q. i would like to find somebody to teach my tech team how to build our packages (basic ones) and a repository to hold them, how can i find the proper personn to talk to
[17:19] <stefanlsd> jetienne__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek has just started
[17:20] <jetienne__> stefanlsd: thanks looking
[17:22] <ryanakca> I'm trying to split knmap into knmap and knmap-data. I have tried both 'usr/share/icons' and 'usr/share/icons/*' in debian/knmap-data.install however, I get http://pastebin.ca/1549340 .
[17:22] <jetienne__> stefanlsd: oh you doesnt mean, this url contains a solution to my problem. more about "there are not here at the moment", correct ?
[17:23] <stefanlsd> jetienne__: Ubuntu Developer Week is made to teach people about Ubuntu development. So its something your 'tech' team could attend to learn how to package etc
[17:23] <stefanlsd> jetienne__: Else there a many resources on the web about how to package etc
[17:24] <jetienne__> stefanlsd: well hiring somebody doing it allday will be more efficient :)
[17:25] <stefanlsd> jetienne__: Maybe you could contact canonical directly then. Most of here are community members.
[17:25] <jetienne__> stefanlsd: ok thanks
[17:26] <ScottK> ryanakca: Append debian/tmp/ in front of /usr/share/icons/*
[17:27] <ryanakca> ScottK: Thanks
[17:33] <jetienne__> stefanlsd: do you know any community members who is competent/experienced and doing consulting on ubuntu ?
[17:35] <stefanlsd> jetienne__: im sure there are many. i dont have anyone in mind though.
[17:36] <jetienne__> stefanlsd: ok, so what should i do, reask some other time ? any other suggestion ?
[17:50] <sluimers> Hey guys, Ihave a PPA packaging issue I've asked before, but got sent to #launchpad, but #launchpad is sending me to #ubuntu-motu
[17:50] <sluimers>  My app file doesn't want to get into the package. -> http://tinyurl.com/kr52jz
[17:51] <ScottK> sluimers: This channel is really for Ubuntu packages.
[17:56] <cprov> ScottK: technically, sluimers has an issue with an ubuntu package.
[18:04] <ScottK> cprov: Is it's going into a PPA it's not an Ubuntu package.
[18:04] <ScottK> Is/If
[18:07] <cprov> ScottK: that's not the right attitude, you know ... every packaging hitting PPA is ultimately targeted to ubuntu.
[18:08] <ScottK> cprov: No.  They aren't.
[18:08] <ScottK> cprov: My definition for that would be intended to get into the official archive.
[18:10] <cprov> ScottK: okay, fine ... this is definitely going nowhere.
[18:10] <ScottK> That's what we do here.
[18:11] <ScottK> You may not like it, but that's why this channel exists.
[18:11] <cprov> ScottK: I see ;)
[18:11] <cprov> ScottK: no heart feeling, I respect your position.
[18:36] <wizz_> hi , where can i find a mentor in Ubuntu?
[18:36] <wizz_> try the mailing list , but no luck
[18:37] <ScottK> wizz_: Best way is just to ask specific questions here and usually someone will answer.
[18:38]  * ScottK keeps thinking some Universe package will get to build on Sparc, but no.
[18:45] <wizz_> ScottK:thx!
[19:00] <_Fauchi95_> Hello! I have seen, that a apostrophe in a description of a package is wrong. sould I fix this to karmic, karmic-updates or should I do nothing?
[19:22] <jetole> Hey guys, not a motu question but does anyone know when the ubuntu key server can be expected to be back up?
[19:59] <ahe> someone has an idea why i get a no-copyright-file error from lintian when building a package with debuild although there is a copyright file in my debian/ directory?
[20:16] <christoph_debian> ahe: do cou call dh_installdocs in debian/rules
[20:16] <christoph_debian> ?
[20:17] <ahe> christoph_debian: no, i don't *doh*
[20:18] <ahe> thx now i get some other errors but this one is gone at last
[20:18] <slangasek> ScottK: did you happen to catch up with quadrispro yet?
[20:18] <ScottK> slangasek: No.
[20:18] <ScottK> Haven't seen him.
[20:19] <slangasek> he's been filing some interesting sync requests
[20:19] <slangasek> bug #419898
[20:19] <ScottK> He may have heard I was looking for him.
[20:19] <slangasek> plus the one I just bounced in motu-release's direction
[20:19] <slangasek> heh :)
[20:20] <ScottK> Not sure why you did that one, but OK.
[20:20] <slangasek> ScottK: the bounce to you, or the sync?
[20:20] <ScottK> The sync.
[20:21] <slangasek> because it doesn't violate the freeze, it's just silly
[20:21] <ScottK> OK.
[20:21] <ScottK> Fair enough.
[20:23]  * ScottK made a bit of a dent in NBS over the weekend.  Now if only sparc would catch up.
[20:26] <prefrontal> emacs23 won't be in Karmic?? whyfor not?
[21:06] <slangasek> ScottK: I'll trust that since you filed bug #420920, the lack of mention of FF means the new upstream version contains no new features :)
[21:16] <ScottK> slangasek: Yes.
[21:16] <ScottK> slangasek: Same thing with pymilter-milters and pyyaml when you get it them.
[21:18] <slangasek> ok
[21:42] <ScottK> slangasek: opendrim-lmp-systemmemory, opendrim-lmp-recordlog, opendrim-lmp-physicalasset ,opendrim-lmp-ip, opendrim-lmp-ethernetport,opendrim-lmp-baseserver are all in Universe and build-dep on sfcb in Multiverse.  I imagine they'd make more progress is one set moved.  I started to read the sfcb license to see if it could go in Universe and got a headache.
[21:42] <jtimberman> hi, i'm trying to build a karmic package on jaunty using sbuild. the sbuild host is karmic. when i run sbuild -d jaunty libextlib-ruby_0.9.10-2.dsc it errors out with the message "libextlib-ruby_0.9.10-2.dsc: i386 not in arch list or does not match any arch wildcards: all -- skipping"
[21:45] <jtimberman> Or should I ask in #ubuntu-devel?
[21:49] <ScottK> jtimberman: Do you have Universe enabled in your sbuild?
[21:49] <jtimberman> ScottK: on the host or the build chroot?
[21:50] <ScottK> chroot
[21:50] <jtimberman> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main restricted universe multiverse <-- Do I need karmic? I have the deb-src for karmic, but not deb.
[21:52] <ScottK> Does the deb src for karmic have universe?
[21:53] <jtimberman> Yes.
[21:53] <ScottK> Dunno then.
[21:54]  * ScottK doesn't us sbuild.
[21:56] <binarymutant> pbuilder ftw
[21:57] <binarymutant> can I upload some packages for review on revu? I'm not wanting and upload just a review
[22:00] <ScottK> You can upload.  No guarantees about a review.
[22:01] <binarymutant> :.(
[22:02] <jtimberman> Hurm. This probably isn't the correct way to go about it, but I added i386 to the Archiectures list in the .dsc and its building O.o
[22:02] <mathiaz> jtimberman: try to build with sbuild -A -d
[22:02] <jtimberman> alrighty
[22:02] <mathiaz> jtimberman: if the package are not arch dependent, you need to use -A
[22:03] <jtimberman> ahhh!
[22:03] <jtimberman> mathiaz: thanks :D
[22:06] <mathiaz> ScottK: sfcb depends on cim-schema which is in multiver for licensing issues
[22:06] <ScottK> mathiaz: Thanks.
[22:07] <ScottK> So then if slangasek moves opendrim-lmp-systemmemory, opendrim-lmp-recordlog, opendrim-lmp-physicalasset ,opendrim-lmp-ip, opendrim-lmp-ethernetport,opendrim-lmp-baseserver to multiverse, it should sort itself out.
[22:07] <ScottK> slangasek: Does ^^ need a bug?
[22:17] <slangasek> ScottK: nope, I can fix it up
[22:17] <ScottK> slangasek: Great.  I'll leave it to you then.
[22:17] <slangasek> done
[22:18] <ScottK> Cool.
[22:19]  * ScottK considers compiling on battery when it's complaining it's at 'warning' level probably isn't the best idea and wanders off to look for the power brick.
[22:30] <kklimonda> jdstrand: have you forwarded bug 422130 upstream?
[22:30] <jdstrand> kklimonda: the patch is from upstream git, so no
[22:30] <kklimonda> k
[22:30] <jdstrand> kklimonda: so the patch file for references
[22:31] <jdstrand> s/so/see/
[22:32] <MightyTweek> Hey all... does anyone know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/361856 is being worked on?
[22:34] <kklimonda> jdstrand: I was trying but my network is capricious tonight, it was faster to ask you :)
[22:34]  * jdstrand nods
[22:35] <jpds> MightyTweek: Looks like you should ask tseliot, who maintains the pakcages but isn't here at the moment.
[22:39] <MightyTweek> thanks jpds, perhaps I'll send him an email
[23:16] <showard> hello motus, I have a question: a package could build on all architectures except i386
[23:16] <showard> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/octave3.0/1:3.0.5-6ubuntu2
[23:16] <showard> it failed because there was an error making one of the .pdf help files
[23:18] <showard> what's the standard way of going about debugging/fixing this? pbuilder with i386 and see if the error exists with updated packages?
[23:19] <Laney> it's probably the indep build failing
[23:19] <Laney> so concentrate on that
[23:50] <shakaran> Hi, I have a problem with lintian
[23:50] <shakaran> I have a image and it says that the image is a executable
[23:51] <shakaran> W: myapp: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/tivion/data/img/myapp-icon.png
[23:51] <shakaran> N:
[23:51] <shakaran> N:    This executable file is not an ELF format binary, and does not start
[23:51] <shakaran> N:    with the #! sequence that marks interpreted scripts. It might be a sh
[23:51] <shakaran> N:    script that fails to name /bin/sh as its shell.
[23:51] <shakaran> N:
[23:51] <shakaran> N:    Refer to Debian Policy Manual section 10.4 (Scripts) for details.
[23:51] <shakaran> N:
[23:51] <shakaran> N:    Severity: normal, Certainty: certain
[23:51] <shakaran> some help to fix it?
[23:51] <geser> chmod -x it
[23:52] <pochu> or maybe dh_fixperms
[23:52] <geser> simply remove the x bit from it
[23:52] <shakaran> thanks, it works perfectly ;)
[23:58] <shakaran> I have another problem with manpage for myapp
[23:59] <shakaran> I made a manpage.xml.ex. I rename to myapp.xml and move it to debian/ folder
[23:59] <shakaran> but lintian warning me again with this:
[23:59] <Ampelbein> showard: The FTBFS of octave may have had the same root cause as bug 410242, just retry the i386 and it should be fine.


[03:12] <arun__> #roaksoax will you able to share one sample config file for rackd.conf, it will be very helpfull
[09:59] <tosaraja> Is there a reason why power_parameters_power_address can't be read from the CLI? Or is it just me now knowing how to read it?
[15:10] <mup> Bug #1751300 opened: [2.4] No way to enable dynamic worker creation <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751300>
[15:10] <roaksoax> tosaraja: maas admin machine power-parameters <machine_system_id>
[20:03] <utriple> hi I'm having an issue where maas doesn't pick up any storage device in my super micro box
[20:08] <utriple> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zYRzNHj6m5sw8i0TOmXViSEaYKg44nSV/view
[20:13] <utriple> I had this issue a while ago and posted in here ~1 month back
[20:20] <utriple> this the testing hardware stage of doing a commision a server
[20:40] <utriple> let me find the command it was failing on
[21:29] <xygnal> roaksoax: in bug report you gave example command to generate 500 fake nodes, but it seems not all of the data needed to try it ourselves is there.     you also mention you do this after running 'make run', which is perhaps what we are missing.
[21:29] <xygnal> 1744765, actually it was mike :)
[21:29] <xygnal> mpontillo:
[21:30] <xygnal> can you help me to fill out the missing peice to do that?  a co-worker is trying to test that out.
[21:30] <xygnal> comment #7
[21:33] <mpontillo> xygnal: that comment was probably specific to the MAAS dev env; your coworker might want to read through https://github.com/maas/maas/blob/master/HACKING.rst
[21:41] <utriple> my bug report is on that google drive link if anyone is curious
[21:43] <xygnal> mpontillo: ty sir :)
[21:50] <mpontillo> xygnal: sure. keep in mind that you will need to develop on Xenial in order to work with MAAS 2.3 sources, and on Bionic to work with MAAS 2.4 sources
[21:50] <mpontillo> xygnal: so if you are working on 2.3 code on Xenial, that's fine, just remember to check out the 2.3 branch
[21:51] <xygnal> will we need to upgrade to bionic to be able to use 2.4 prod?
[21:53] <roaksoax> xygnal: yes
[21:53] <roaksoax> 2.4 wont be backported to xenial
[21:54] <xygnal> will that also be the migration to snaps? or is that not here yet
[22:29] <roaksoax> xygnal: we will continue to produce debs, at least for 2.4
[22:29] <roaksoax> xygnal: and we are evaluating making 2.4 available in xenial only as a snap
[22:30] <roaksoax> so lts users dont have to upgrade the underlying os
[22:30] <roaksoax> as snaps give that flexibility
[23:00] <utriple> nvm I figured it out