[12:00] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: possibly
[12:00] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, Yes, I know what you're talking about... there's nothing to update on my PC right now so I don't have access to it.
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  rhythmbox, and skip through songs.
[12:00] <Mynthon> Crimsun: Do I have to reboot?Cause there's still no sound.....:(
[12:00] <NoobThatNeedsHel> so how do i fix it. I have Netgear
[12:00] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: what's an example for an application that won't work
[12:00] <soundray> ?
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  when it plays a new song it does the same thing.. heh.
[12:00] <Rakel_23> buenas noches
[12:01] <NoobThatNeedsHel> bit torrent, Cedega authentication process
[12:01] <GlassCasket> Is there a hardware supported list for Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[12:01] <GlassCasket> Is there a hardware supported list for Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[12:01] <GlassCasket> I'd like to know if my wireless router is suppsoer :D
[12:01] <GlassCasket> Sorry
[12:01] <NoobThatNeedsHel> both have no connection
[12:01] <jonuk> Question:  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.10.  When it gets to the stage where it is "Starting Partitioner", it gets 100% and then goes to a blue screen and hangs there.  If I hit Ctrl+C, it starts the partitioner again and hangs at 52% everytime.
[12:01] <harfooz> hi all. I posted a dapper problem in #ubuntu+1, but thought it may be someone here that could check something for me. Has anyone got dapper and mozilla-acroread installed?
[12:02] <NoobThatNeedsHel> soundray: you still there
[12:02] <namit> hey ubuntu rocks
[12:02] <sixtymhz> GlassCasket : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HCL
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  also that forum thread yo ugave me doesn't have it there.
[12:02] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: can you ping www.ubuntulinux.org?
[12:02] <NoobThatNeedsHel> i will try
[12:02] <jonuk> I'm pretty positive it has something to do with my hard drives (first one in particular).  I have 2 hard drives.  One is a 40GB hard drive with Windows installed on it.  The second is a brand new 250 GB hard drive with entirely unallocated space.
[12:02] <sixtymhz> harfooz : I do, why
[12:02] <ompaul> jonuk have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  or wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge no promises but you might strike it lucky
[12:02] <kevin_> Just to let you all know, easyubuntu's repositories have been down for over a week, so don't bother trying
[12:02] <harfooz> in breezy, when I would browse to a .pdf, acroread would open within firefox. However with dapper, the plugin doesn't seem to be working: when I browse to a .pdf in firefox, I am given the choice to open it with the default viewer.
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  I want to use Ubuntu's default theme, but not have it be brown..... (Ubuntu:  Linux for Blind People)
[12:03] <darich> question how do I get Beagle to index my windows partitions
[12:03] <sixtymhz> harfooz : lemmie try.
[12:03] <ompaul> jonuk, sata and ide?
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> no, i can't
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> wait
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> typo
[12:03] <jonuk> ompaul: IDE
[12:03] <outlawcrook> man if these files dont get smaller i wil not be able to get them all :(
[12:03] <Mynthon> Crimsun; Thanks for all your help!Thanks a million...Not so many people I know who could have helped me here in Oslo
[12:03] <harfooz> sixtymhz: in other words, acroread functions as expected on local files, but mozilla-acroread isn't working when I browse to a .pdf.
[12:03] <NoobThatNeedsHel> yes, i can ping ubuntulinux.org
[12:04] <crimsun> Mynthon: you'd be surprised, actually.
[12:04] <outlawcrook> i have direcway and will get hit with there fair acces policy
[12:04] <sixtymhz> harfooz : works for me.
[12:04] <paniq> can somebody paste his /etc/network/interfaces please?
[12:04] <sixtymhz> Works in Firefox.
[12:04] <harfooz> dang it.
[12:04] <Mynthon> Crimsun: Oh?
[12:04] <ompaul> jonuk, make sure you have themn set as master and slave and work from there
[12:04] <sixtymhz> Try reinstalling it
[12:04] <crimsun> Mynthon: quite a few Ubuntu users in Oslo, I'm sure.
[12:04] <NoobThatNeedsHel> soundray: i can ping that site
[12:04] <NoobThatNeedsHel> it works
[12:04] <harfooz> so acroread opens within (is "swallowed" in) Firefox?
[12:04] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: I think the programs you mentioned open inbound ports on your machine. You may have to open them explicitly in your router config.
[12:05] <jonuk> ompaul: Yes, I have the jumper for the 40GB set as Master and the 250GB set as Slave
[12:05] <soundray> NoobThatNeedsHel: can you be a bit more patient please.
[12:05] <Mynthon> Crimsun: Probably:) But should I reboot?
[12:05] <harfooz> sixtymhz: was there any additional config that I should do?
[12:05] <NoobThatNeedsHel> yes, sry
[12:05] <jonuk> ompaul:  I want to leave the 40GB as is, and partition off part of the 250GB drive for Linux
[12:05] <ompaul> jonuk, no cable select, and make sure that the cd is master on ide 2 (assuming that it is on ide 2)
[12:05] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Not that I know of.  I just apt-get installed.
[12:05] <Nameless`> someone willing to explain a bit how chmod works? i cannot see teh logic into it :/
[12:05] <NoobThatNeedsHel> i will try opening inbound ports now, brb
[12:05] <namit> i will explain chmod

[12:06] <XamDM> good n8
[12:06] <Nameless`> i fail to understand how it knows what user i try to give what specific rights to a dir for example
[12:06] <Abountu> how can I get and install  JRE 5
[12:06] <Abountu> ?
[12:06] <namit> why what is wrong wit it
[12:06] <sixtymhz> harfooz : sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread --reinstall
[12:06] <soundray> !java
[12:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:06] <harfooz> hmmm....I wonder what I've missed.
[12:06] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, Sorry about that.  What about 'Controls' in the Themes dialog.  It changes all colors, but you might not find a theme you like there.  Not sure how to roll your own, but there's always gnome-look.org
[12:06] <namit> well chmod os linked in with also the owner and group
[12:06] <namit> do you uderstand the 755?
[12:07] <i_like_my_bike> i have sony vaio with a docking station with dvd and floopy how do i mount them?
[12:07] <crimsun> mythica: no need.
[12:07] <crimsun> mythica: err, sorry.
[12:07] <Nameless`> means owner rwe / group re and public re
[12:07] <mythica> i got it working :)
[12:07] <Nameless`> but how does it know which is the owner?
[12:07] <mythica> used xawtv -c /dev/video1
[12:07] <soundray> mythica: glad it worked
[12:07] <Nameless`> and it is possible to have multiple owners?
[12:08] <namit> no just goups
[12:08] <harfooz> sixtymhz: here's what I'm seeing -- http://penguinsolutions.org/screenshots/Screenshot.png
[12:08] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  thanks, you don't know what I'm after though.  I know someone who edits a configuration file that changes only the colors of the controls, while you use the exact same theme.  He's not around though... heh.
[12:08] <marcie> Hi...another driver question. I have a tape drive for backup...i checked the Wiki but there is nothing on them
[12:09] <Nameless`> namit but suppose i got User A of Group A and user B of Group B and i want them both to be capable to alter a directory/file
[12:09] <marcie> Or i'm putting in the wrong key words
[12:09] <Nameless`> thats not possible?
[12:09] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, Yeah, I was searching around in ~ for specific conf files for it, but came up short.  I'm still new to it meself.
[12:09] <ompaul> marcie, check out the command tar
[12:09] <namit> add user A and user B to same group
[12:09] <mythica> soundray, yeah thanks fella
[12:09] <kbrooks> kevin_:
[12:09] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  alright, thanks though.  I'll keep looking.
[12:09] <marcie> ompaul: in the wiki?
[12:10] <Nameless`> its possible to have users to be part of multiple groups?
[12:10] <P0ldy> bluefoxicy, hope you find it, I'm interested in that too
[12:10] <kbrooks> kevin_: don't say to the channel to not bother "trying" EU
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> P0ldy:  nods.
[12:10] <namit> why can you not add yourself to another goup?
[12:10] <marcie> Thanks again
[12:10] <slackern> Nameeater: yes
[12:10] <Nameless`> i fail to see logic as i'm more used todo user permissions via w2k
[12:10] <slackern> sorry Nameless`
[12:10] <brokengun> if i modify a config file or something do i have to restart for the changes to happen?
[12:10] <Nameless`> hmmm i see
[12:10] <kevin_> kbrooks, why? what if other people have the same problem? They won't know what's wrong.
[12:11] <ompaul> marcie, on the command line more so, >>man tar<< or get a "tape faq" if there is one on the wiki (don't know or out of mr google) the tar command stands for tape archive
[12:11] <namit> *group
[12:11] <namit> yes it is
[12:11] <namit> look at `id group`
[12:11] <slackern> Nameless`: just try typing groups in a termnial with your user and you see which groups you are a member of.
[12:11] <Nameless`> hmm
[12:11] <slackern> Nameless`: that might show you the logic :)
[12:11] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Check PM
[12:11] <Nameless`> thats cool
[12:11] <graveson> is there a howto on keyboard shortcuts etc out there
[12:11] <iNiku> Nameless`: the way it works is that each directory or file can have three sets of permissions. one for the owner (of which there can only be one), one for the group (of whic hthere can also only be one) and one for all the others. you set the owner and group with chown and the permissions with chmod, but you knew that
[12:11] <Nameless`> thats going to be a messy thing :P
[12:12] <iNiku> the important thing to realize is that a user can be a member in several groups
[12:12] <harfooz> sixtymhz: what's PM?
[12:12] <harfooz> permissions?
[12:12] <NoobThatNeedsHel> soundray: how do i make this change with my router?
[12:12] <Nameless`> oki getting wiser now :P
[12:12] <iNiku> so for your case with users A and B, add both users to group C, make the directory group C and make the permissions 775
[12:12] <kbrooks> kevin_: because !automati says its unsafe, and by announcing that people shouldn't try EU just because "EU's repos" have been down, it leaves people with almost nothing
[12:12] <Nameless`> ok /me is going to test stuff :D
[12:12] <kbrooks> !automatix*
[12:12] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks
[12:13] <sixtymhz> harfooz : did you do 'sudo apt-get install acroread' ?
[12:13] <harfooz> yeah -- I did it first.
[12:13] <JoshRA> why is DVD playback slow?
[12:13] <JoshRA> Lagged etc
[12:13] <kevin_> !automatix
[12:13] <hyphenated> JoshRA: because your DMA settings are wrong?
[12:13] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:13] <sixtymhz> harfooz : did you do anything else afterwards?
[12:13] <kevin_> !automatix*
[12:13] <ubotu> kevin_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:13] <harfooz> apt-get install acroread-plugins
[12:13] <ompaul> kbrooks, kevin_ please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is far to busy for that
[12:13] <i_like_my_bike> How Do I mount a docking stations drives?
[12:13] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell JoshRA about DMA
[12:13] <kbrooks> kevin_: i was correcting myself
[12:13] <JoshRA> hyphenated: I have set it like the guide says, but still slow
[12:14] <slackern> JoshRA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28RestrictedFormats%29#head-389f8b000408629ef4fbb99723cfe0133fe31e7e
[12:14] <hyphenated> JoshRA: the guide that ubotu just told you to read a bit on?
[12:14] <sixtymhz> harfooz : I didnt install those.  I just did acroread and mozilla-acroread
[12:14] <harfooz> let me try removing acroread-plugins
[12:14] <sixtymhz> harfooz : try removing them and try again.
[12:14] <Nameless`> ok going to play a bit with this chown/chmod stuff :P
[12:14] <AlohaWolf> anyone else having a problem with sound being broken in dapper?
[12:14] <JoshRA> `It is the same thing but I got the link from the RestrictedFormats page
[12:14] <hyphenated> AlohaWolf: #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <AlohaWolf> I just saw that
[12:15] <paniq> hey everyone, is there a repository for pyxpcom debian/ubuntu builds?
[12:15] <sixtymhz> harfooz : I would do a 'sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread --reinstall' after removing
[12:15] <hyphenated> JoshRA: ok, can you run 'hdparm /dev/hdc' in a shell and put the output in a pastebin?
[12:15] <harfooz> sixtymhz: trying right now.
[12:16] <harfooz> same exact behavior.
[12:16] <sixtymhz> harfooz : good luck
[12:16] <JoshRA> I will when I get ubuntu back up and running, I have since installed a differnt distro which had no problem, I am redownloading the ISO to reinstall
[12:16] <Snow_Shelter> does anyone know how I can get OpenGL rendering (by hardware) working in my 32-bit chroot? It works in the host OS.
[12:16] <harfooz> I restarted ff also.
[12:16] <i_like_my_bike> How Do I mount a docking stations drives?
[12:16] <sixtymhz> harfooz : you do the reinstall?
[12:16] <harfooz> yeah
[12:16] <JoshRA> I was asking so I can have something tp print to try to fix it hyphenated
[12:16] <harfooz> # apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread --reinstall
[12:17] <Nameless`> hmmm tnx a lot peeps. i seem to get more stuff done now with this user stuff :P
[12:17] <harfooz> sixtymhz: would mind to run this dpkg -L mozilla-acroread | grep nppdf
[12:17] <kevin_> !automatix
[12:17] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:18] <hyphenated> JoshRA: well, I can't recommend any pages to print until it's clear what the problem is (on a technical level)
[12:18] <JoshRA> I will do the RMA crap when it is installed
[12:18] <JoshRA> and see if you are online then, How long will you be on?
[12:19] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Okay. Then what do you want to know?
[12:20] <harfooz> do you see the plugin in the path /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?
[12:20] <robinsw> I didn't get a 'harumph' from that guy.
[12:20] <sixtymhz> no
[12:20] <harfooz> I'm not seeing it there.
[12:20] <robinsw> Hi, guys
[12:20] <sixtymhz> Should need it
[12:20] <sixtymhz> shoudlnt
[12:20] <harfooz> however, when I cd to that directory, it's there.
[12:20] <robinsw> Any idea how I can play xVID files using Totem or Mplayer?
[12:20] <sixtymhz> I got /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/nppdf.so
[12:20] <hyphenated> JoshRA: I'll be here a while
[12:21] <sixtymhz> and in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so
[12:21] <harfooz> me too
[12:21] <sixtymhz> I have 5 places
[12:21] <sixtymhz> try reinstall firefox
[12:21] <sixtymhz> *shrugs*
[12:21] <sixtymhz> im stumped
[12:21] <harfooz> me too.
[12:21] <sixtymhz> Sorry bro.
[12:21] <sixtymhz> ='[
[12:21] <harfooz> time for a break -- thanks for the help.
[12:21] <robinsw> Any idea how I can play xVID files using Totem or Mplayer, guys?
[12:22] <harfooz> It's helpful to know that at least it's supposed to work ;-)
[12:22] <slackern> robinsw: have you read about restrictedformats in the wiki?
[12:22] <P0ldy> robinsw, have you installed ffdshow ?
[12:22] <robinsw> Um...
[12:22] <robinsw> No! :)
[12:23] <robinsw> Ffdshow, yes?
[12:23] <slackern> !RestrictedFormats
[12:23] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:26] <robinsw> What's the easiest way to install ffdshow?
[12:26] <Malin> hmm
[12:27] <Malin> sudo apt-get install ffdshow?
[12:27] <robinsw> Cheers
[12:28] <liran_> any ideas anyone what are the implications of installing the linux-686-smp package? im currently runing 2.6.15-22-386 with fglrx (as xorg-driver-fglrx)
[12:28] <bhundven> afaik, that's the way to install any package ;)
[12:28] <robinsw> ffdshow doesn't exist. :-S
[12:28] <sixtymhz> harfooz : Looks in firefox preferences and then Downloads.  Look in the View & Edit Actions part.
[12:28] <bhundven> robinsw: apt-cache search ffdshow
[12:30] <robinsw> bhundven, that returns nothing.
[12:30] <robinsw> Just takes me back to the prompt.
[12:30] <ToHellWithGA> how do i open .wmv porn files in linux?
[12:30] <bhundven> robinsw: then there isn't a package.   I mean, it was hard.
[12:31] <bhundven> hehe
[12:31] <Drac|Mac> gnome-panel suddenly won't let me resize it to anything smaller than 25 pixels in height! What happened? I need it to be 22!
[12:31] <Drac|Mac> Oh..
[12:31] <Drac|Mac> It just changed. Weird.
[12:31] <P0ldy> shit happens.
[12:32] <hyphenated> ToHellWithGA: they're 'restricted' because of the format (wmv) not because of the content ;-)
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> thanks hyphenated
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> yeah i totally understand
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> i used that page to setup mp3 and flash and java
[12:32] <ToHellWithGA> just didn't think of video codecs at the time
[12:33] <ToHellWithGA> but i've been using linux for almost a week and it's becoming unbearable having no access to my good old .wmv porn
[12:33] <hyphenated> I'd probably have got video formats working first.
[12:33] <ironuckles> ubotu : when is dapper coming out?
[12:33] <ubotu> ironuckles: I think you lost me on that one
[12:33] <P0ldy> june 1
[12:33] <hyphenated> I have an ipod to play mp3s anyway, and I barely care for flash and java
[12:34] <ToHellWithGA> out of curiousity, if i were to upgrade to dapper would i have to come anew with all of my software?
[12:34] <MystaMax> hello, i just reinstalled Ubuntu, and I'm looking to make sure I install the right SMP 686 kernel, I have a Intel Xeon 2.8 Dual processor, last time i tried, the computer would lock up soon after logging in w/ gnome
[12:34] <gnosticapex> Nickrud
[12:34] <hyphenated> 'anew'? you probably wouldn't have to learn many new software programs. it'll mostly be more recent versions rather than different default applications
[12:34] <giacus> hello
[12:35] <Snow_Shelter> anyone know how to get OpenGL rendering working in a chroot?
[12:35] <ToHellWithGA> hyphenated: a mean reinstall the software.  i've been doing ./configure, make, make install from source to get newest versions anyway :)
[12:35] <ToHellWithGA> *i mean
[12:35] <hyphenated> ToHellWithGA: you can use the package manager to update things.. it's a 'cleaner' way than managing all your installs from source packages
[12:36] <giacus> can't get xorg running, is the ATI Mobility Radeon X200M supported , or should I install some driver ?
[12:36] <ToHellWithGA> i'm asking if reinstalling the OS would wipe the drive and start from scratch
[12:36] <ToHellWithGA> or if it would be an upgrade more than a clean slate thing
[12:36] <hyphenated> ToHellWithGA: no, you'll have the choice of 'install' or 'upgrade'
[12:36] <P0ldy> ToHellWithGA, yes if you reinstall the OS on the same partition it would be from scratch
[12:37] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ dissention in the ranks
[12:37] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell giacus about ati
[12:38] <teknoprep> i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk
[12:38] <hyphenated> giacus: read what ubotu told you. my X300 Mobility works fine in breezy
[12:38] <soundray> Is it possible to disable IPv6 entirely?
[12:38] <digisus> ToHellWithGA, hyphenated, P0ldy: So I can take the Dapper CD, choose upgrade in the process and it will upgrade my breezy and leave intact all config files? That's what you are saying?
[12:39] <hyphenated> digisus: that's what it's supposed to do.
[12:39] <P0ldy> Or one could just dist-upgrade.  A CD seems superfluous
[12:40] <bhundven> word. I did just that this morning.
[12:40] <teknoprep> anyone on my HDD issue?
[12:40] <digisus> hyphenated: excellent. And do I have to expect problems with apps I installed on top of the standard apps? Are they automagically upgrade through synaptic?
[12:41] <digisus> ... upgrade through synaptic/apt-get as well?
[12:41] <hyphenated> I plan to reinstall from scratch with the dapper release, because I haven't done so for a few releases. Other times, I've just replaced 'hoary' with 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and update + dist-upgrade to do a complete upgrade
[12:41] <digisus> upgrade-d! (damn)
[12:41] <Nameless`> sudo apt-get update stuff
[12:41] <Nameless`> donish :P
[12:42] <digisus> hyphenated: cool, that sounds encouraging. :-)
[12:42] <soundray> Is there some central configuration item where I can disable IPv6 stuff?
[12:42] <MystaMax> anyone can point me in the right direction?
[12:42] <hyphenated> soundray: no idea, I've never tried to disable it
[12:42] <Sanne> digisus, if you installed software from unofficial repositories, you might get problems, though.
[12:43] <hyphenated> MystaMax: is it already choosing the wrong one for you, or what?
[12:43] <P0ldy> soundray, you can  edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to do it.  See here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172866
[12:43] <bhundven> soundray: you have to disable it in the modprobe.conf (which is done by means of /etc/modutils/aliases)
[12:43] <MystaMax> hypehnated: i dont understand ur question clearly... sorry
[12:43] <bhundven> ah P0ldy got it right.
[12:43] <digisus> Sanne: ah ah... Hm, to be honest it is difficult to keep track of every small app one installs... Do you have an idea of how I could extract a list of the stuff I installed manually on breezy?
[12:44] <hyphenated> MystaMax: you said before it was using the wrong kernel, now you've reinstalled. is it still using the wrong one or not?
[12:44] <soundray> Thanks P0ldy and bhundven!
[12:44] <P0ldy> soundray, np
[12:44] <mournahan> need help with lexmark printer? google searched and didnt find much help! its a Z517 of the Z510 family of lexmark printers.
[12:44] <bhundven> no thanks to me. all to P0ldy
[12:45] <Rhine> Is there anyway I can write to my windows drive i dont care if i break it if i cant fix it this way then i reformay anyways
[12:45] <bhundven> echo "thanks" 2&>1 /dev/P0ldy
[12:45] <Sanne> digisus, not really. I'm using Synaptic because it logs every install, and if I compile stuff myself, I always put it into /usr/local. Other than that, I would keep notes.
[12:45] <P0ldy> bhundven, lol
[12:45] <bhundven> :-D
[12:45] <soundray> echo Thanks | tee -a /dev/P0ldy >/dev/bhundven
[12:45] <P0ldy> Rhine, if you don't care, ntfs captive (?) is supposed to do it shakily.  If you don't care, worth a try.  check sourceforge
[12:46] <giacus> hyphenated: thanks
[12:46] <Rhine> Ok thank you
[12:46] <digisus> Sanne: Keeping notes? You mean like.. pen and paper? LOL thought a computer is keeping notes for me! LOL
[12:46] <MystaMax> hyphenated: hold on let me check to see which i loaded
[12:47] <P0ldy> Rhine, actually I guess sourceforge isn't hosting it, but there's even a howto in ubuntu forums.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[12:47] <kuitang> try checkinstall
[12:47] <kuitang> works well on slackware; also makes deb packagse
[12:48] <ahmad> What is metacity?
[12:48] <digisus> Sanne: Thanks for the hint in any case.
[12:48] <teknoprep> someone say ---> tek
[12:48] <hiddnx> hi ppl
[12:48] <Sanne> digisus, heh :) Actually, I do that pen and paper stuff sometimes. If you install manually, how should your system know? Did you install much software from unofficial sources or compiled it yourself?
[12:48] <ahmad> !tek
[12:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ahmad
[12:49] <teknoprep> nice
[12:49] <ahmad> lol
[12:49] <ahmad> <3
[12:49] <amac> does turboprint no longer work correctly in dapper?
[12:49] <ahmad> What is metacity?
[12:49] <amac> my printer spits out 3 pages and locks
[12:50] <bhundven> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity
[12:50] <kuitang> with slackware, its easy 2 use checkinstall and manage source-compiled pkgs w/ official ones using standard tools
[12:50] <soundray> ahmad: a window manager. It draws borders and titlebars, manages fore- and background etc.
[12:50] <digisus> Sanne: Aaahhh... We might have a misunderstanding. I installed practically ALL throught synaptic. I thought with unofficial you meant one of the unsupported repositories. But perhaps I am wrong? (Oh, and I did not compile anything by myself. ubuntu is such a userfriendly piece, why should I? :-)
[12:51] <ahmad> soundray, : Where do i go to that program? Cuz i downloaded a theme for it
[12:52] <Sanne> digisus, no, I meant unofficial repositories as well as compiling yourself, although if you did everything through synaptic, that makes it easier, because you have logs. But anyway, unofficial repositories might get you problems when upgrading. Just keep that in mind. Maybe you need to uninstall some programs before you can proceed.
[12:52] <soundray> ahmad: configure gnome/metacity themes through System-Preferences-Themes
[12:53] <gholen> Anyone knows how good support there is for D-Links DWL-G510 PCI cards in linux?
[12:53] <Cars_Suck> how do i mount a docking stations drives? DVD and FLOPPY
[12:54] <digisus> Sanne: I see. I am wondering what takes more time: make a backup of everything, wipe the HD and install Dapper from scratch and then muddle through the configuration again. Or... start muddling through right away. ;-)
[12:54] <P0ldy> Cars_Suck, are they not in your /etc/fstab ?
[12:55] <Sanne> digisus, if you're prepared to start from scratch anyway, why not try upgrading first and see how far it goes? But I would backup important stuff in any case, at least you config files in your home dir and perhaps /etc also.
[12:56] <digisus> Sanne: Wonderful idea, I muddle through forth and back to double the transition time ;-) Sorry for being sarcastic... *smile on the face*
[12:57] <digisus> Sanne, probbaly you are right. This way, I would have tried and experienced once how the upgrade process works.
[12:57] <Sanne> digisus, I'm sorry to not have the ultimate answer ;), but mixing repositories should be done with care. If you didn't know that, you do now ;).
[12:58] <Sanne> digisus, exactly
[12:58] <digisus> sanne, i heard about the dark places of repositories but Dapper was far you know... ;-)
[12:58] <Sanne> digisus, hehe :)
[12:59] <outlawcrook> so once i get all the files downloaded for my nvidia card what would be next
[12:59] <outlawcrook> or just shut down and put card in
[01:00] <Sanne> digisus, I'm not sure, but there may be some apt or dpkg wizardry to show which package came from which repository. But somebody more advanced in this magic would have to answer that ;)
[01:00] <pyrotic> I am trying to play wolfenstein: enemy territory and have been for a few days now, but I've been sorting through errors and trying to get it to work, the error I am on now, is this.. 'cannot write to hunkusage.dat' when I join a server, OR, it won't download the packs...any ideas?
[01:01] <Rhine> Can someone help me with the second step of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[01:01] <ETronik> hi all, can somebody help me with a small  nagging problem with Samba ?
[01:01] <digisus> sanne, thanks. Gotta leave. was nice chatting, and many thanks for your tips. -- To all other listeners coding on ubunut: You guys rock! Thanks for providing such an excellent piece of free software! bye bye
[01:01] <pyrotic> sanne apt-get --help maybe?
[01:01] <digisus> tu!
[01:01] <Sanne> digisus, you're welcome, good luck
[01:01] <digisus> thx, bye.
[01:01] <crazy_penguin> Good night! // Jo ejt!
[01:02] <pyrotic> Waves*
[01:03] <ETronik> Hi all, I have a printer shared from Linux, but access to it from Windows keeps asking for  login , how can I automate/avoid this login popup ?
[01:03] <pyrotic> guessing nobody is in the smarts of WolfET...
[01:03] <Sanne> pyrotic, yeah, that helps mostly, or man apt. I thought pyrotic should know about those commands, so I didn't mention those. I'm sure he/she will be back if not ;)
[01:03] <cmarker> hello, I am having a problem trying to add snes9x to breezy, could I please get some help?
[01:04] <reign> Hello, I'm having trouble with Nvidia GLX and a custom kernel. After compiling my kernel, rebooting,  and installing the nvidia kernel package everything works fine until I reboot. That's when X refuses to load with GLX enabled ... this is happening on two kubuntu machines running nvidia
[01:05] <PS> hi, sorry this is off-topic, but i have a bash scripting q: if i am executing a bash script how can that script tell which directory it's in?
[01:05] <Sanne> pyrotic, about ET: it sounds like it wants to write files somewhere but can't, maybe a permission problem? I had ET working in my Debian time and there was a dir under home for that where packs got downloaded to.
[01:05] <pyrotic> Sanne do you have a link anywhere that I could look up to have it explain to me what needs to be done?
[01:05] <pyrotic> !tell reign about nvidia
[01:06] <hiddnx> i have problem with dual boot: (hd0,0) : XP, (hd0,1): freezy breezer
[01:06] <cmarker> I am trying to use Synaptic to find the snes9x package but when I search for snes it finds no packages, I have already added all the repositories.  Why can I not find the package?
[01:06] <Sanne> pyrotic, not really, because it worked for me from the start. *Do* you have a dorectory like .etwolf (or so) in your home directory?
[01:07] <reign> pyrotic: I've tried just about everything in there other than renderaccel false, but won't that disable accelerated graphics?
[01:07] <CanadianSnow> i need help getting my soundcard detected
[01:07] <hiddnx> can anyone help with grub modifying?
[01:07] <CanadianSnow> its from an old ibm 300GL
[01:07] <pyrotic> reign I have an nvidia card, and it works fine and I used those instructions.
[01:08] <pyrotic> Sanne hmm.. no I don't
[01:08] <reign> I'm using the .run package from nvidia's site, since I'm using a custom kernel I can't use the precompiled versions. If I reboot and install the driver again everything works fine, but I don't wnat to have to install the driver every tiem
[01:08] <kuitang> cmarker, go to http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=snes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all
[01:08] <Sanne> cmarker, you can also try to find it at packages.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <Sanne> pyrotic, that may be the problem. How did you install ET?
[01:08] <outlawcrook> cool
[01:08] <CanadianSnow> can anyone help me wit that plz?
[01:08] <Chris_Tucker> whats the most common command line partitioner?
[01:09] <outlawcrook> i just pluged in my usb scanner and it found iot no prob..and is running
[01:09] <outlawcrook> LOL
[01:09] <outlawcrook> nice
[01:09] <pyrotic> Sanne had a .run file downloaded, I installed it, and updated it to 2.60, it runs fine, but just won't join the servers due to that error.
[01:09] <pyrotic> !sound
[01:09] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:09] <pyrotic> !tell canadiansnow about sound
[01:09] <kuitang> Chris_Tucker, probably fdisk and its variants
[01:10] <kuitang> the best one is parted, though
[01:10] <CanadianSnow> that doesn't help but thx
[01:10] <Sanne> pyrotic, sounds just like what I did. I'm trying to remember if it created the .etwolf folder by itself or if I had to do something. I will search around in my archives if there's some notes, hang on a sec if you have time.
[01:10] <reign> pyrotic: any other ideas?
[01:10] <pyrotic> canadiansnow did you read it? or just look at it and see there is too much work involved...:)
[01:11] <pyrotic> reign not at the moment, stick around and ask the question every once ina w hile, maybe sombody more 'intellgent' may come around...
[01:11] <reign> Ok thanks a lot
[01:11] <pyrotic> Sanne I've got plenty of time.. :)
[01:11] <pyrotic> reign anytime, wish I could help more!
[01:12] <pyrotic> reign did you try using 'easyubuntu' ?
[01:12] <CanadianSnow> i've read it and done everything there
[01:12] <CanadianSnow> i dont know what the card is
[01:12] <reign> easybuntu? what's that?
[01:12] <pyrotic> !tell reign about easyubuntu
[01:13] <MystaMax> hyphenated: thanks for you assistance, i have to leave, i will have to pickup tomorrow... thanks again
[01:13] <marcie> question regarding upgrading thunderbird: i followed the instructions the program works but the link to applications doesn't...i've tried putting in the symbolic link in preferences but i'm stuck
[01:13] <marcie> (mind you it will run from command line at least)
[01:13] <teknoprep> i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk
[01:13] <pyrotic> canadiansnow open your case and take the card out and look at it, and tell me what it is...(PS: Shut the machine off before removing the card...)
[01:13] <reign> pyrotic: thing is, I had to compile a custom kernel for SMP, plus I optimized the whole thing ... don't know if that will work
[01:13] <hiddNX> anyone knows how to boot ntfs xp from grub?
[01:13] <angelus> hello, anyone here uses eclipse?
[01:14] <pyrotic> reign if you compiled your custom kernel, don't you think you should have an idea how to get the videocard too? :P
[01:14] <PS> angelus: i do
[01:14] <reign> pyrotic: it's not that I don't know how to install it :P i'm having stupid problems with it
[01:14] <reign> I've done this a hundred times before
[01:14] <AngeluS> i'm using ctd and i would like to use auto-insert braces, etc
[01:14] <pyrotic> hiddNX probably just go into the BIOS and select your other harddrive ...if Grub doesn't detect it already...
[01:14] <pyrotic> reign Well I wish I could help further, but I'm not sure what to try...hmm
[01:15] <AngeluS> i can only use auto-inser-braces when creating .java files
[01:15] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic i cant do that
[01:15] <CanadianSnow> but... "i found information about his driver is ESS Allegro SB16"
[01:15] <reign> I'll keep looking around ... this has been driving me crazy for a while now :)
[01:15] <CanadianSnow> lol would that help at all
[01:15] <teknoprep> cheers for absolutly no help on crap
[01:15] <teknoprep> YAY
[01:15] <teknoprep> is everyone on IRC just dumber these days?
[01:15] <AngryElf> hey guys, i'm having a consistant problem with dvdrip/libdvdcss2 -- When I "read DVD contents" it only probes the first title on the disc and errors on the second one, then stops "Can't open the title 2 info file"
[01:15] <hiddNX> pyrotic: grub can't perform makeactive line while this
[01:15] <AngeluS> PS: can you help me?
[01:15] <PS> angelus: sorry, i only use it for java
[01:15] <AngryElf> this has been on 3 DVDs now.....and seems to work fine on DVDShrink DVDs
[01:15] <marcie> help with upgraded thunderbird?
[01:15] <pyrotic> hiddNX grub finds my NTFS XP PRO Drive just fine.. :)
[01:16] <pyrotic> reign Okay good luck!..
[01:16] <kuitang> AngryElf, try dmesg; u might find the error there
[01:16] <hiddNX> ? - i remember i did it before, but now i don't remember how to..
[01:16] <pyrotic> teknoprep whats your problem...?
[01:16] <teknoprep> hde: WDC WD360GD-00FLC0, ATA DISK drive
[01:16] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic?
[01:16] <teknoprep> i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk
[01:16] <cmarker> kuitang, how do I install the deb packages from the website your refered me to
[01:17] <teknoprep> i have the other 2 as /dev/hde and /dev/hdg
[01:17] <teknoprep> they are both there
[01:17] <marcie> i think my symbolic link is the problem...
[01:17] <pyrotic> canadiansnow why can you not do that?
[01:17] <CanadianSnow> i dont know how to take it out
[01:17] <CanadianSnow> but aperently the driver is ESS Allegro SB16
[01:17] <Reon> teknoprep: are all the hd's formatted ?
[01:17] <CanadianSnow> but... i dont know what that means...
[01:17] <pyrotic> teknoprep hmm...(Reon) can probably help you more than I can.. :)
[01:18] <hiddNX> pyrotic: what is written in your menu.lst about it?
[01:18] <Reon> I'm just taking a wild guess here
[01:18] <teknoprep> Reon can't format it if i can't get to it
[01:18] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know how to get the bcm43xx wireless to work? I got errors about firmware not loading so I installed bcm43xx-fwcutter and followed the instructions. Now the firmware seems to load but dmesg says ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[01:18] <teknoprep> fdisk -l /dev/hdk can't be done
[01:18] <teknoprep> becuase there is no /dev/hdk
[01:18] <teknoprep> hmm
[01:18] <pyrotic> canadiansnow ...unscrew the screw...and pull...look for the name of the card... push back in...put screw back in, close case... turn computer on.
[01:19] <KaosX> why dont you format it in a different slot just to make sure its formatted?
[01:19] <CanadianSnow> ESS Allegro SB16
[01:19] <marcie> canadian snow...is your computer an IBM
[01:19] <KaosX> then put it back
[01:19] <pyrotic> hiddNX It's on my other box, but, when grub loads it.. it reads it as.. "Windows XP NTFS on /dev/hda1"...if that helps...it should read it, maybe you have your jumpers set wrong.. ?
[01:19] <tank1500> Question: I can't seem to find any programs that stream shoutcast right.  Anyone know of a program?
[01:19] <teknoprep> hmm
[01:19] <teknoprep> i am lost lol
[01:19] <pyrotic> canadiansnow One second.
[01:19] <teknoprep> i have never seen this happen before
[01:20] <Reon> teknoprep: Is the drive detected at all when linux starts up. I know raid controllers ave their own bios where you can set stuff. have you looked in the cards bios. should be accessable when the pc boots up.
[01:20] <teknoprep> reon the server rocognized in dmesg and /var/messages the HDE HDG and HDK drives
[01:20] <marcie> my system won't recognize a lot of hardware...people seem to think it's because it's an IBM
[01:20] <cmarker> Sanne, how do I install the packages found on packages.ubuntu.org? can I get them to be listed in synaptic?
[01:20] <KaosX> do live cd's recognize the device...like the UBD?
[01:20] <teknoprep> reon yes
[01:20] <AngryElf> kuitang, dmesg has some ambiguous lines in there about it no errors per se
[01:20] <teknoprep> hdk: 72303840 sectors (37019 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)
[01:20] <NickGarvey> hdk?
[01:20] <NickGarvey> jeez
[01:21] <NickGarvey> thats a lot of hds
[01:21] <teknoprep> lol
[01:21] <NickGarvey> (or cd drives or whatever)
[01:21] <tank1500> And another problem is that I can't seem to get any programs to play mpg files
[01:21] <teknoprep> yeah HDD's
[01:21] <hiddNX> pyrotic: may be i have to change there (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) ?
[01:21] <teknoprep> its skipping some of the letters tho
[01:21] <Reon> teknoprep: if that is the case then you should be able to make it work. just dont ask me how :)
[01:21] <Sanne> cmarker, yes, if they are there, they are also in Synaptic. You need to have the respective repositories (universe, multiverse) enabled. Which it is in, you see on the website.
[01:21] <pyrotic> canadiansnow Open up Terminal, type 'lspci' hit enter, copy and paste that all, and go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste it, and give me the link
[01:21] <teknoprep> Reon LOL
[01:21] <hiddNX> pyrotic: it is installed on first hardrive alone
[01:22] <pyrotic> hiddNX Ok, so you have 2 harddrives on your computer, 1 with XP 1 with Ubuntu, correct?
[01:22] <teknoprep> does anyone know how to create a new /dev/hdk ?
[01:22] <teknoprep> is this possible?
[01:22] <Reon> teknoprep: Maybe post in the hardware forums with all the details files attached and someone might have an idea.
[01:22] <teknoprep> i thought they were auto created
[01:22] <hiddNX> pyrotic: yes
[01:22] <cmarker> sanne, I have added all the repositories and though snes9x shows up on the website under multiverse it is not showing up in synaptic
[01:22] <Chris_Tucker> whats the command to format as ext3?
[01:22] <hiddNX> pyrotic: sata onboard
[01:23] <kuitang> yes, u can make /dev/hdk, just make sure u know the appropriate major/minor #
[01:23] <NickGarvey> teknoprep: yeah I think they are assigned by where they are..
[01:23] <pyrotic> hiddNX Ok, and Grub loader only recognizes your Ubuntu drive, but doesn't see the XP drive, when loading?
[01:23] <teknoprep> hmm
[01:23] <AngryElf> what is /dev/hdk?
[01:23] <kuitang> they're in the kernel documentation if u hav it
[01:23] <teknoprep> hdk: 72303840 sectors (37019 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)
[01:23] <teknoprep> that is HDK
[01:23] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic, go to the pastebin and search "CanadianSnow" there are only like 4 there, one is lspci
[01:23] <teknoprep> but there is no /dev/hdk
[01:23] <teknoprep> why would a SATA HDD come up as UDMA(33) ?
[01:23] <eXistenZ> when will ShipIt be opened for dapper drake
[01:23] <pyrotic> canadiansnow so your telling someone that's going to help you, what to do, to help you? :)
[01:23] <NickGarvey> heh
[01:23] <Sanne> pyrotic, (nothing in my archives about ET but) I just read on a website about possible problems running ET involving the ownership of ~/.etwolf. Have a look: http://cs.unk.edu/~lowry/wiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu_enemy_territory_howto
[01:24] <Inazad> Can I have some help with ftp-ssl?
[01:24] <CanadianSnow> marcie canadian snow...is your computer an IBM   :  yes, and if u dont put a space i can see ur comment in red :)
[01:24] <hiddNX> pyrotic: it pints some error on line "makeactive"
[01:24] <Inazad> Can I have some help with ftp-ssl or something else...?
[01:24] <Chris_Tucker> whats the command to format as ext3?
[01:24] <hiddNX> prints
[01:24] <Sanne> cmarker, I will try it also, sec
[01:24] <Reon> teknoprep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[01:24] <kuitang> teknoprep, wat kernel?
[01:24] <kuitang> for <IP_ADDRESS> (mine) hdk is: 57 block       Sixth IDE hard disk/CD-ROM interface
[01:24] <kuitang>                   0 = /dev/hdk          Master: whole disk (or CD-ROM)
[01:24] <kuitang>                  64 = /dev/hdl          Slave: whole disk (or CD-ROM)
[01:24] <pyrotic> hiddNX hmm...unusual...
[01:24] <CanadianSnow> im just telling u its already there
[01:24] <pyrotic> Sanne Ok THanks I'll have a look at that site!...
[01:24] <Syco54645> how can i make it so that my normal user can unmount my cdroms?
[01:25] <pyrotic> canadiansnow..k. one sec please.
[01:25] <kuitang> something liek this: /dev/hdc        /mnt/cdrom      iso9660 ro,user,noauto          0 0
[01:25] <CanadianSnow> its not hard to find is all im saying, otherwise i'd like re-paste it
[01:25] <CanadianSnow> thx
[01:25] <teknoprep> OK
[01:25] <kuitang> in fstab, of course
[01:25] <Sanne> cmarker, if I search for snes9x at packages.ubuntu.com for Breezy, I get 4 packages. Is the package you want to install among those?
[01:25] <teknoprep> sorry for this paste but here it goes
[01:25] <teknoprep>  *-disk
[01:25] <hiddNX> pyrotic: i have to do it again, to see the error...
[01:25] <teknoprep>        product: WDC WD360GD-00FLC0
[01:25] <teknoprep>        vendor: Western Digital
[01:25] <teknoprep>        physical id: 0
[01:25] <teknoprep>        bus info<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:25] <teknoprep>        logical name: /dev/hdk
[01:25] <kuitang> oh wait; ubuntu uses /media, not /mnt
[01:25] <teknoprep> ITS F**King /dev/hdk wtf
[01:26] <CanadianSnow> lol
[01:26] <pyrotic> !tell teknoprep about pastebin
[01:26] <CanadianSnow> gj teknoprep
[01:26] <tank1500> Syco, you try using the "sudo" command?
[01:26] <cmarker> sanne, yes, all 4 I really need
[01:26] <teknoprep> i know about pastebin
[01:26] <teknoprep> ty
[01:26] <kuitang> teknoprep, is it SATA?
[01:26] <pyrotic> canadiansnow I dunno what to tell you, sorry.
[01:26] <teknoprep> YES
[01:26] <Syco54645> kuitang: i have that and it still will not allow me
[01:26] <soundray> Syco54645: if you set CDs to auto-mount in System-Preferences-Removable..., your users can unmount CDs in nautilus with right-click and Eject.
[01:26] <pyrotic> teknoprep I appologize, didn't see the 'sorry' up there.
[01:27] <Syco54645> soundray: what if i want to use the terminal?
[01:27] <CanadianSnow> what about how/where to find drivers for a "ESS Allegre SB16" ?
[01:27] <Samuli^> hiddNX, what HDD has the windows installed?
[01:27] <pyrotic> hiddNX I wish I could help you further... can you even boot to the XP drive through BIOS an selecting the other hdd ?
[01:27] <Reon> teknoprep: sudo fdisk /dev/hdk
[01:27] <CanadianSnow> caz i have no clue, but aperently i have to install drivers for my soundcard???
[01:27] <hiddNX> pyrotic: yes i can
[01:27] <teknoprep> Unable to open /dev/hdk
[01:27] <tank1500> Syco, I believe you have to put "sudo" before whatever you want to do with root powers
[01:27] <Sanne> cmarker, I can see all of them in my Synaptic. Are you also on Breezy, and do you have the multiverse repository enables?
[01:27] <Reon> teknoprep: My sata drives are seen as /dev/sda
[01:27] <AngryElf> alright, it's got to be a problem with libdvdcss2 (1.2.9) cause now i can't even watch DVDs
[01:27] <soundray> Syco54645: then you're going to have to sudo. Make sure all windows are closed and all shells cd'ed away from the CD filesystem.
[01:27] <teknoprep> well not mine
[01:27] <pyrotic> hiddNX hm.. did you install Ubuntu after you installed XP or Xp after ubuntu?
[01:28] <cmarker> sanne, I am using breezy and I enabled all the repositories
[01:28] <slackern> teknoprep: what sata controller is it on?
[01:28] <hiddNX> Samuli^: i have two sata drives wdc160, first is xp
[01:28] <AngryElf> !libdvdcss2
[01:28] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:28] <teknoprep> RocketRaid
[01:28] <Reon> teknoprep: They should be seen as sdx unless it has something to do with the rai controller.
[01:28] <Syco54645> soundray: i know how to do that, it just complains about my fstab.
[01:28] <pyrotic> hiddNX sorry I couldn't help you, I must go now.. I have my own problems to fix.. :)
[01:28] <CanadianSnow> pyrotic could u tell me how/where to find drivers for a "ESS Allegre SB16" ?
[01:28] <Samuli^> hiddNX, o-kay. So that's not the problem.
[01:28] <hiddNX> pyrotic: ubuntu after xp
[01:28] <teknoprep> the raid controller is a rocketraid PCI card
[01:28] <teknoprep> brb
[01:28] <kuitang> or u can just use mplayer
[01:28] <soundray> Syco54645: what does it say?
[01:28] <Reon> teknoprep: did ya try fdisk
[01:29] <pyrotic> !tell canadiansnow about sound
[01:29] <pyrotic> !canadiansnow right there :P
[01:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pyrotic
[01:29] <Sanne> cmarker, just to be sure, if you want, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can have a look, ok?
[01:29] <nullified> !java
[01:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:29] <tank1500> Syco... you just type "sudo" no quotes and then command
[01:29] <CanadianSnow> ...ok
[01:29] <hiddNX> Samuli^: what to do?
[01:29] <nullified> !javadebs
[01:29] <Syco54645> tank1500: i dont want to have to do that or type in my password
[01:29] <pyrotic> Auf Wiedersehn!~
[01:29] <kuitang> Syco54645: everybody needs access to cdrom device as well as the fstab entry.  A lazy way would be chown root:users hdc
[01:30] <XpCrash> is there a package or update for one of the video players for ubuntu , that has support for wmv 's
[01:30] <kuitang> mpalyer
[01:30] <kuitang> mplayer*
[01:30] <Syco54645> soundray: it isnt doing it now that i ask... it just did it yesterday
[01:30] <Samuli^> hiddNX,  It might help if you pasted your menu.lst for us to see.
[01:30] <Syco54645> oh well
[01:30] <cmarker> sanne, posting now, give me a sec please
[01:30] <Syco54645> thanks for all the help
[01:30] <teknoprep> Reon yes
[01:30] <teknoprep> Reon Unable to open /dev/hdk
[01:30] <kuitang> not sure if ubuntu support; you'll probably hav 2 compile from source 2 get all functionality
[01:30] <Syco54645> kuitang: i realize that i could do that, but it can be done via the fstab
[01:30] <hiddNX> Samuli^: here?
[01:30] <teknoprep> reon its a RocketRAID 1640 from HightPoint
[01:30] <Syco54645> well i am going to play some mame with my new arcade controller that i just built
[01:30] <Syco54645> so have fun
[01:30] <kuitang> teknoprep, r u sure u hav ur sata drivers?
[01:30] <Samuli^> hiddNX, to pastebin.
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang ?
[01:31] <XpCrash> mplayer doesnt play it
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang i got 2 of them working... so yes
[01:31] <Reon> teknoprep: I give up, what happens if you connect it to a different port on the raid card ?
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang they show up in dmesg
[01:31] <hiddNX> Samuli^: where is this place?
[01:31] <cmarker> sanne, ok, its posted
[01:31] <teknoprep> Reon i have to turn it off for that ... can't do that right now
[01:31] <pyrotic> sanne what was that link again? I lost it :|
[01:31] <Samuli^> !tell hiddNX about pastebin
[01:31] <kuitang> teknoprep, go to ur dev directory
[01:31] <Sanne> cmarker, paste the url here, please
[01:31] <teknoprep> kuitang yeah ok what?
[01:31] <kuitang> paste the ls entry for hdk
[01:31] <tank1500> Any ideas as to what program I should use that can play *.mpg files?
[01:31] <cmarker> sanne, ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14102
[01:31] <NickGarvey> tank1500: mplayer works
[01:31] <cmarker> sanne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14102
[01:32] <Sanne> pyrotic, ah, good you're back. Are you german? The link was http://cs.unk.edu/~lowry/wiki/doku.php?id=ubuntu_enemy_territory_howto
[01:32] <NickGarvey> tank1500: what I use, theres loads of them though ;)
[01:32] <Khaaaaan> hey guys... how come I cannot remove Firefox without removing epiphany?
[01:32] <Khaaaaan> Are the two related?
[01:32] <teknoprep> kuitang ?
[01:32] <XpCrash> tank , you have to download the w32 codecs
[01:32] <pyrotic> Sanne Yes I am German, but I do not know very much German :P
[01:32] <NickGarvey> Khaaaaan: well they are both gecko based..
[01:32] <NickGarvey> not sure if that has anything to do with anything
[01:32] <tank1500> I need w32 codecs?
[01:32] <XpCrash> but for some reason it doesnt have support with wmv files
[01:32] <pyrotic> Sanne THank you for the link by the way :)
[01:32] <NickGarvey> tank1500: I believe so..
[01:32] <kuitang> get them from mplayerhq.hu
[01:32] <pyrotic> Sanne why do you ask? (german)
[01:32] <tank1500> package manage have those?
[01:32] <Khaaaaan> But shouldnt I be able to just have epiphany??
[01:32] <XpCrash> hold on
[01:33] <kuitang> from MPLAYERhq.hu
[01:33] <Samuli^> !tell tank1500 about restricted formats
[01:33] <kuitang> who cares about restricted
[01:33] <Sanne> pyrotic, ah. In case you would understand german, I would recommend *the* german linux gaming site http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de, maybe there are some tutorials on ET.
[01:33] <teknoprep> oh i believe the reason this comes up as IDE is becuase its backwards compatible with IDE...
[01:33] <kuitang> mplayerhq.hu has all ur windowz codecs
[01:33] <hiddNX> Samuli^: i think i found the error... this is mine
[01:33] <Samuli^> tank1500, see the url ubotu told you how to install w32codecs and more.
[01:33] <Sanne> cmarker, looking...
[01:33] <pyrotic> Sanne Ahh.. I could translate most of it.. but I'm from the States.. :P thanks anyway!..
[01:34] <XpCrash> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%s , think you can search here
[01:34] <Sanne> pyrotic, good luck :)
[01:34] <tank1500> kuitang: where do I get that?
[01:34] <XpCrash> or just goto the buntu homepage and search it
[01:34] <hiddNX> Samuli^: just marked windows hd0,0, while is an ubuntu partition... sorry, i've first to try it right
[01:34] <Reon> teknoprep: cd /dev     ls -l hdk
[01:34] <teknoprep> Reon NOTHING
[01:34] <bjpatrick> anyone playing WoW on the ubuntu box?
[01:34] <pyrotic> Sanne thanks I'll need it :)
[01:34] <kuitang> go to www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:34] <teknoprep> Reon sorry for caps
[01:35] <NickGarvey> hiddNX: you can try many without booting ubuntu and editing your boot.lst file
[01:35] <pyrotic> Auf Weidersehn!
[01:35] <Samuli^> hiddNX, so you have windows on the second HD?
[01:35] <Sanne> cmarker, you don't have multiverse enabled for breezy, only for breezy-backports, if I look correctly.
[01:35] <NickGarvey> hiddNX: if you hit e and then edit the line you can edit it temperarly and boot like that, very good for troubleshooting
[01:35] <teknoprep> you know what it shows up with 3 hdd's on the older kernel
[01:35] <teknoprep> 2.4
[01:35] <tank1500> sorry kuitang, didn't know that was a site...
[01:36] <Reon> teknoprep: sudo lshw -C disk
[01:36] <hiddNX> Samuli^: yes, is this remains after booting the edited line?
[01:36] <Khaaaaan> Sooooo why can't I have just epiphany as a browser?
[01:36] <cmarker> sanne, I am sorry, what would I have to do to enable that? I followed the faq on how to add repositories but I guess that did not add the multiverse
[01:36] <Bobakitoo> is d-link dwl-g510 a good wireless card for linux? it use  module wlan, wlan_wep, ath_pci, ath_rate_sample witch are marked experimental
[01:36] <teknoprep> Reon that is my post above
[01:36] <Nullified> guys, I have a problem with java under ubuntu, Java's website shows that im using the latest version, however when i type java -version it shows a old version, any one know how i can solve this?
[01:36] <teknoprep> Reon the big paste above
[01:36] <Bobakitoo> do those driver are open source and will be improved?
[01:36] <teknoprep> Reon scoll up about 100 lines
[01:36] <Reon> teknoprep: lol, the garbled one that is hard to read ?
[01:36] <Samuli^> hiddNX, there might be problems having the windows on second HD.
[01:37] <teknoprep> Reon its garbled toyou?
[01:37] <hiddNX> Samuli^: what problems?
[01:37] <Samuli^> hiddNX, windows not booting :)
[01:37] <teknoprep>  bus info<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:37] <Reon> teknoprep: I battle to read info in irc in scrolling text
[01:37] <teknoprep> logical name: /dev/hdk
[01:38] <Sanne> cmarker, I'm just looking over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto myself again because I also did it only once ;). You can put it in per hand, but it might be best first to try doing it in Synaptic, yes?
[01:38] <AngryElf> hey guys -- i'm having a problem with libdvdcss, I've downloaded the deb off of the seveas mirro and dpkg -i 'd it......but i still can't watch encrypted dvds........xine says "The source can't be read.  Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: not disc in drive). (Encrypted or faulty DVD)
[01:38] <AngryElf> but this is while running as root
[01:38] <Reon> teknoprep: does it already have information on it ?
[01:38] <hiddNX> Samuli^: yes, i experiencied it wiht fedore, but i couln't rewrite my grub to other partition, so i installed ubuntu :)
[01:38] <cmarker> sanne, I understand how to do it by hand and I could do that easily but I am not sure what to add
[01:39] <Sanne> cmarker, ok, then I'll give you my line, sec
[01:39] <teknoprep> Reon no its a new hdd
[01:40] <teknoprep> reon i am going to get the data off the current raid when i can.. back itup... see if the 2.4.x kernel works
[01:40] <teknoprep> if it does i am sticking with 2.4.x
[01:40] <Samuli^> hiddNX, one thing you could try is map (0,0) (1,0) / map (1,0) (0,0)
[01:40] <teknoprep> this 2.6.8-11 in debian is blowing my arse
[01:40] <Sanne> cmarker, (you probably won't use 'de', change it accordingly): deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted multiverse
[01:40] <Khaaaaan> Okay let me rephrase the question.....
[01:41] <[n3t0] > how i can fixed this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14103
[01:41] <Inazad> I want some help to connect to a secure ftp with ssl and secure listing required.. anyone can help me plz ?
[01:41] <Samuli^> hddnx, I don't remember if that's the exact format to do mapping. You have to look it somewhere.
[01:41] <Khaaaaan> Is it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????
[01:41] <Nullified> guys, I have a problem with java under ubuntu, Java's website shows that im using the latest version, however when i type java -version it shows a old version, any one know how i can solve this?
[01:41] <hiddNX> Samuli^: ok, i saw it in grub manual, but touth that this command is just for linux itself.. i'll try it now, thank u
[01:41] <crimsun> Nullified: set the correct PATH in ~/.bashrc
[01:42] <Nullified> do i just gedit?
[01:42] <Samuli^> hiddNX, it's map (hd0) (hd1) and vice versa.
[01:42] <Samuli^> hiddNX, just had to check it up myself :)
[01:42] <hiddNX> Samuli^: yes :)
[01:42] <hiddNX> Samuli^: manual grub
[01:42] <Nullified> crimsun, Do i just gedit ~/.bashrc?
[01:42] <[n3t0] > ?
[01:42] <Sanne> cmarker, here are some more exapmles: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[01:43] <richiefrich> Nullified, what u trying to do
[01:43] <rexkwondo> is this dapper help too?
[01:43] <Khaaaaan> Is it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????
[01:43] <richiefrich> rexkwondo, yes
[01:43] <crimsun> Nullified: sure
[01:44] <Nullified> richiefrich, When i do java -version in terminal it shows java 1.4 however java website shows 1.5 which i need for azureus
[01:44] <svu_> do epiphany/firefox support CVS anymation?
[01:44] <[n3t0] > clear
[01:44] <richiefrich> Nullified, cant u just change your java u run
[01:44] <Khaaaaan> Is it safe to remove Firefox if I want to only use Epiphany????
[01:44] <carl> Can somebody help me with a problem?
[01:44] <Nullified> I honestly dont know how richiefrich
[01:45] <nickrud_> Khaaaaan, epiphany uses firefox, you still need it :)
[01:45] <carl> I recently installed ubuntu, and I went to download a program, and I can't download anything
[01:45] <carl> It gives me an error
[01:45] <Khaaaaan> ahhh okay
[01:45] <Khaaaaan> Cool
[01:45] <Khaaaaan> Thank you!! :)
[01:45] <Sanne> rexkwondo, #ubuntu+1 is especially for dapper, might want to check out.
[01:45] <rexkwondo> I just got through installing flight 7 on my laptop, and whenever I try to access the network settings of my wireless card, I get complete lock-up.  This never happened with any release before.
[01:46] <cmarker> sanne, thank you very much, that worked
[01:46] <carl> Erm. This thread has more info if anybody can help me
[01:46] <carl> http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=13591443#755061720
[01:46] <googler> hello buddys
[01:46] <Khaaaaan> oh man... please tell me epiphany has a pop up blocker!!!
[01:46] <Sanne> richiefrich, are you I changed my 'active' java package with update-alternatives, is this maybe what you're looking for?
[01:47] <Sanne> cmarker, awesome :)
[01:47] <richiefrich> Nullified, i forget put i know it's with that update-alternatives,
[01:47] <richiefrich> Sanne, thats ikt
[01:47] <overridex> is there a wine package for ubuntu with oss support? or an extra package that adds it?
[01:47] <Sanne> richiefrich, s/are you//
[01:47] <nickrud_> Nullified, try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:48] <richiefrich> Sanne, thanks i knew there was a way
[01:48] <googler> ------------->what desktop environment everyone prefer ?
[01:48] <Sanne> richiefrich :)
[01:48] <richiefrich> googler, e17
[01:48] <nickrud_> mine, googler of course
[01:48] <carl> Is there anybody that can help me?
[01:48] <kevin_> hi bimberi!
[01:49] <richiefrich> carl, problem?
[01:49] <Kadran> hi carl
[01:49] <richiefrich> Nullified,  update-alternatives  <----- u get that
[01:49] <bimberi> hi kevin_
[01:49] <Nullified> There are 2 alternatives which provide `java'.
[01:49] <Nullified>   Selection    Alternative
[01:49] <Nullified> -----------------------------------------------
[01:49] <Nullified>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[01:49] <Nullified> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[01:49] <nickrud_> good morning, bimberi
[01:50] <richiefrich> Sanne, honestly i run 5 bistros so it's hard to keep all them sotred at times
[01:50] <nickrud_> Nullified, then you didn't use a deb to install java, you need to add the path to ~/.bashrc after all :)
[01:50] <Sanne> overridex, my breezy wine package has oss support, at least I can see it in the audio drivers tab in winecfg (dunno if it actually works, though...)
[01:50] <richiefrich> Nullified, u need to install the newer one
[01:51] <Nullified> Im confuggled now
[01:51] <overridex> Sanne: if you click "configure" in that window, do you get an error that it doesn't exist?
[01:51] <Sanne> richiefrich, yeah, running bistros is pretty hard, all those customers all the time (sorry, I had to) ;)
[01:51] <bimberi> good evening nickrud :)
[01:51] <bimberi> nickrud_ even
[01:52] <jonuk> Question:  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.10.  When I get to the "Starting Partition" stage, it gets to 100% then the screen goes blank.  Ctrl+C makes the partitioner start over and stall at 52% everytime.
[01:52] <carl> Sorry, my power went out
[01:52] <Quizzer> have ubuntu-server 5.10 installed .. and when trying to ./configure BitchX ... i get this error configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent
[01:52] <delmar> Anyone here know much about setting up a VPN client on on ubuntu to connect to a cisco? are there some nice tools for doing this?
[01:52] <richiefrich> Sanne, i meant distros
[01:52] <nickrud_> bimberi, hm, I guess I need to deghost
[01:52] <Quizzer> where can i find the package for setupterm or tgetent
[01:52] <gearry> I am setting up a new machine, and I am playing around with using NFS to mount /home
[01:52] <Sanne> overridex, no error, I can select it. I'll try to run something, sec.
[01:52] <crimsun> Quizzer: libncurses5-dev
[01:52] <carl> But anyway, about my problem
[01:52] <Mitsurugi> How come I can't use my network when I'm conected with a modem?
[01:52] <snowfaked> jonuk: check your ram, something like memtest86 when booting from installation cd
[01:52] <carl> I can't download anything
[01:52] <jonuk> I'm positive its a problem with my hard drives (specifically the 1st one).  I have 2 HD's, one is a 40GB IDE that has Windows on it, the other is a brand new 250GB IDE with completely unallocated space.
[01:52] <gearry> seems to work fine except for when I run "sudo aptitude"
[01:52] <Sanne> richiefrich, if yourse you meant distros (I was making fun of you)
[01:52] <Quizzer> cool thanks ..
[01:52] <carl> It gives me an error.
[01:53] <jonuk> snowflaked: I'm really sorry, can you be more specific
[01:53] <richiefrich> Sanne, :)
[01:53] <teknoprep> how do i remove kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386
[01:53] <gearry> I get permission denied trying to create .aptitude and write ~/.aptitude/config
[01:53] <carl> "XML parsing error: not well-formed "
[01:53] <teknoprep> can i just
[01:53] <teknoprep> apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386
[01:53] <snowfaked> jonuk: sorry im' too drunk to be specific
[01:53] <teknoprep> when in the 2.4 kernel?
[01:53] <carl> "Location: chrome://mozapps/content/plugins/plugInInstallerWizard.xul "
[01:53] <jonuk> snowfaked: i'm drunk too, this is a problem
[01:53] <jonuk> happy hour
[01:53] <snowfaked> jonuk: i just remember that i had problem partitioning hard drive (it hanged at aroud 50%) when i had bad memory in my machine
[01:53] <gearry> can anyone point me to where I may be going wrong when using sudo and an NFS mounted /home ?
[01:53] <crimsun> Quizzer: hmm, what are you trying to compile?
[01:53] <kevin_> is there a way to make my own livecd, i.e. I want to be able to have a livecd disc containing a program that is not default in ubuntu
[01:54] <snowfaked> jonuk: try to click those Fn buttons like F2 or so.. there's something like memtest86 you can use to test your RAM
[01:54] <delmar> jonuk, drunk already? hah. and its what.. monday there?
[01:54] <swissbear> hi
[01:54] <Sanne> overridex, it seems to work, I get sound.
[01:54] <jonuk> yes, monday and its 7:53
[01:54] <gearry> I run memtest from the live CD
[01:54] <jonuk> happy hour was earlier...hah
[01:54] <gearry> just type memtest at the boot prompt
[01:54] <Mitsurugi> happy hour =]
[01:54] <delmar> Jonuk, not too early then, but Monday? sh1t dude i thought i was bad.
[01:54] <gearry> install CD has it too
[01:55] <Quizzer> what about this .. i have Tcl 8.4 installed .. configure: error: cannot find tcl.h
[01:55] <carl> This thread has the info on my problem, please help me
[01:55] <carl> http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=13591443#755083993
[01:55] <bimberi> delmar: there's a package called vpnc ...
[01:55] <jonuk> can't beat Applebee's at happy hours...half off appetizers and drinks
[01:55] <overridex> Sanne: interesting...
[01:55] <snowfaked> luckily i'm oing to work next time on thursday so i can drink ;)
[01:55] <IceTox> How can I check which distro a linux computer has?
[01:55] <swissbear> I am a new new ubuntu user and I ve a question
[01:55] <overridex> Sanne: what source are you using for your wine?
[01:55] <Sanne> overridex, but of course I actually run alsa, so the also oss compatibility layer would get used, I think.
[01:55] <bimberi> !info vpnc
[01:55] <ubotu> vpnc: (Cisco-compatible VPN client), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.3.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[01:56] <gearry> I have used vpnc
[01:56] <Sanne> overridex, this is the official breezy wine version, not the one from winehq
[01:56] <delmar> bimberi, nice. found it.
[01:56] <overridex> Sanne: ah ok
[01:56] <Nullified> richiefrich, Any way i can remove all current versions of java and just install the new one?
[01:56] <gearry> works pretty well, but did not support rekeying the last I knew
[01:56] <IceTox> How can I check which distro a linux computer has using terminal?
[01:56] <richiefrich> Nullified, if u want yes
[01:56] <Sanne> overridex, this one: Wine 20050725
[01:56] <jonuk> here's the weird thing about my problem
[01:56] <swissbear> someone could tell me were is the corrisponding of task manager?
[01:56] <jonuk> when I unplug my 40 GB drive and just use my 250 GB drive
[01:56] <Nullified> richiefrich, Any ideas on how i would do this?
[01:57] <jonuk> the partitioner loads
[01:57] <richiefrich> carl, apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:57] <Bobakitoo> will XGL be default desktop in next release?
[01:57] <NickGarvey> swissbear: from the command line you can use ps ax
[01:57] <NickGarvey> swissbear: there is a GUI for it though, I don't know it but I'm sure someone here does
[01:57] <richiefrich> Nullified, apt-get install
[01:57] <crimsun> Bobakitoo: unlikely given its current state, but who knows...?
[01:57] <mish4> is ubuntu good for n00bs?
[01:57] <NickGarvey> mish4: designed that way ;)
[01:57] <Bobakitoo> mish4, ubuntu is good for every humain been as said on the site
[01:57] <Sanne> overridex, dunno if this is necessary, but I also have some snd-*-oss kernel module loaded (check with lsmod)
[01:57] <richiefrich> Nullified, or snyaptic
[01:58] <mish4> i tried fedora but i dont like it, i was configuring my monitor and then it was like okay im not gonna work no more
[01:58] <NickGarvey> swissbear: gnome system monitor
[01:58] <bimberi> IceTox: many distros will have an /etc/issue file
[01:58] <jonuk> A similar problem I had:  When using the LiveCD, the start up stalled at "Starting Volume Enterprise Management"
[01:58] <jonuk> I could hit Ctrl+C and get past it though, I'm assuming the problems are related
[01:58] <kevin_> mish4, ubuntu has a livecd you can try out before even installing it on your hard drive, good enough to find out if it's good enough for you :) Just remember it will run a bit slower as it will need to load itself into memory
[01:59] <Bobakitoo> mish4, so far it got all my hardware right the first time, except nvidia driver witch i had to install extra package to get 3d
[01:59] <carl> richiefrich, do what now?
[01:59] <kevin_> mish4 is gone ;)
[01:59] <richiefrich> carl, reinstall FF
[01:59] <delmar> bimberi, so when i run the gui front end.. kvpnc .. i get a error window.... says... please check that the "dcopserver" program is running
[01:59] <daryl_> !wow
[01:59] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:59] <carl> How would I go about doing that one?
[01:59] <carl> >>;
[01:59] <richiefrich> carl, thats what the tread said
[01:59] <richiefrich> carl, apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:59] <hiddNX> Samuili^: its works! thank you!
[01:59] <uncle_bez> how do I get a list of channels on this server using colloquy?
[01:59] <timmy334> if I'm using a bttv card that would need software encoding, what can I use to simply RECORD video?
[01:59] <carl> k
[02:00] <Bobakitoo> ubotu, you know if that build of wine can run guildwars?
[02:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bobakitoo
[02:00] <wasabi__> uncle_bez: Isn't Colloquy a MacOS IRC client?
[02:00] <richiefrich> carl, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:00] <uncle_bez> oops, sorry wrong room. ;)
[02:00] <Quizzer> why would i get this error .. configure: error: cannot find tcl.h
[02:00] <wasabi__> Heh.
[02:00] <jonuk> okay different question
[02:00] <richiefrich> carl, i meant that
[02:00] <Quizzer> when i have tcl8 installed
[02:00] <swissbear> yes! thank you so much
[02:00] <jonuk> I was able to get the partitioner up without my 40gb hard drive plugged in
[02:00] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: have the source for it?
[02:00] <jonuk> I made partitions like this on my 250 GB drive
[02:00] <jonuk> 10GB /root primary partition
[02:00] <Quizzer> i dont know i installed tcl8.4 with the package
[02:00] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: then I doubt it
[02:00] <jonuk> 20GB /home logical partition
[02:01] <carl> Where is that, richiefrich?
[02:01] <jonuk> 512MB /swap logical partition
[02:01] <carl> >>;
[02:01] <Quizzer> NickGarvey .. how do i get tcl.h
[02:01] <richiefrich> carl, open a terminal
[02:01] <jonuk> and then I tried makin the remaining 220GB or whatever a FAT32 partition
[02:01] <bimberi> delmar: sorry i only knew of vpnc's existence - never used it personally :|
[02:01] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: download the source
[02:01] <richiefrich> carl, it's in the menu someplace
[02:01] <delmar> ok
[02:01] <bimberi> !channels
[02:01] <ubotu> For a list of Freenode channels try http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[02:01] <jonuk> but I got this error: "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in IDE1 master partition #3 /usr failed"
[02:01] <donvella> hows this coming from a windows user, in windows, i can goto Explorer and find any file that im after, im having trouble finding my way around linux, i can use the terminal comfortably, not the best but i can find my way around, im just wondering why things are so difficult to locate and change?
[02:01] <Quizzer> from .. you got a link
[02:02] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: no I'm sure google does, google tcl
[02:02] <richiefrich> jonuk, why u do that
[02:02] <Quizzer> or an apt-get package
[02:02] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: sourceforge
[02:02] <richiefrich> jonuk, u cant make a fat32 that big iirc
[02:02] <jonuk> well, i wanted to use the rest as shared space between Windows and Linux
[02:02] <carl> I already have the newest version of firefix
[02:02] <richiefrich> carl, ok but u get errors right
[02:02] <carl> Yes
[02:02] <bimberi> uncle_bez: that ubotu factoid is for you - i realise it's not a colloquy specific answer though
[02:02] <richiefrich> carl, then just re-install it
[02:02] <IceTox> thanks bimberi
[02:02] <carl> Okay
[02:02] <jonuk> how big can fat32 be?
[02:03] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: here
[02:03] <richiefrich> jonuk, iirc 4 G
[02:03] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tcl/tcl8.5a4-src.tar.gz?download
[02:03] <CyaniCs|testing> total file system size? or file size?
[02:03] <jonuk> richie: i thought that was just filesize on a FAT32
[02:03] <jonuk> file system size
[02:03] <CyaniCs|testing> yes. 4gb = max file size
[02:03] <carl> How do I uninstall something?
[02:03] <nickrud> jonuk, I think 32gb?
[02:03] <carl> Sorry for being linux ignorant
[02:03] <jonuk> i tried to make 220GB file system size
[02:03] <Flannel> 8gb is max.
[02:03] <NickGarvey> Carl: did you get it with apt-get
[02:03] <jonuk> nickrud: oh okay, thanks
[02:03] <CyaniCs|testing> not, its 2TB
[02:04] <carl> Explain that to me please
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> sorry. No, it's 2TB
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> max file system
[02:04] <Flannel> no, file system is 8gb.
[02:04] <richiefrich> Flannel, thats it, yes
[02:04] <Samuli^> Flannel, 4GB is maximum file size for fat32
[02:04] <Flannel> Samuli^: file size, not disk size.
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> actually, im corrected, 8TB max file system size
[02:04] <jonuk> CyaniCs, so I should be able to partition 220GB on FAT32?
[02:04] <uncle_bez> thanks bimberi!, i'm used to using xchat
[02:04] <monteiro> is there a way to put a bash script working at startup ?
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> yeah, but you will need a more advanced partitioner than windows to do it.
[02:04] <Samuli^> Flannel, there's a difference between GB and TB :)
[02:04] <googler> Max for FAT32 = 32GB
[02:04] <CyaniCs|testing> like fdisk on a live linux
[02:05] <bimberi> uncle_bez: np, me too :)
[02:05] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler if its 32GB, then why do i have a 160GB fat32 on my desk?
[02:05] <Samuli^> jonuk, why would you want to do that?
[02:05] <Samuli^> fat32 is lousy file system
[02:05] <googler> what !!!!!!!
[02:05] <Quizzer> NickGarvey : k .. downloaded .. uncompressed and running ./configure
[02:05] <googler> r u sure?
[02:05] <jonuk> Samuli, I just wanted to make the rest of the space to be shared between Windows and Linux
[02:05] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: :)
[02:05] <donvella> is ext3 good?
[02:05] <nickrud> heh. 2TB. I shouldn't trust quick searches
[02:05] <CyaniCs|testing> Western Digital external 160 dual mode
[02:06] <NickGarvey> googler: wait wait
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> usb2/1394
[02:06] <jonuk> I want to access Music files through both Linux and Windows
[02:06] <Quizzer> then i do make after the ./configure and then make install
[02:06] <Samuli^> jonuk, o-kay., I guess it's about the only choice.
[02:06] <NickGarvey> googler: WINDOWS only allows fat to be 32
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> 160GB fat32
[02:06] <Paul8688> googler, i have 80gig fat32
[02:06] <googler> ok nick
[02:06] <NickGarvey> googler: linux on the other hand ;)
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> no, even windows allows 8TB fat32
[02:06] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: check the INSTALL or README file, but normally yes thats it
[02:06] <Quizzer> ok
[02:06] <carl> How do I uninstall firefox?
[02:06] <NickGarvey> CyaniCs|testing: really? I haven't been able to get that working
[02:06] <snowfaked> i think windows allows you to read larger than 32GB, but doesn't support creating larger than 32GB
[02:06] <donvella> jonuk: i use Ubuntu Dapper, and i can access my NTFS drive on linux.
[02:06] <CyaniCs|testing> its a 16bit addressing that restricts to 32GB
[02:06] <NickGarvey> Carl: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox
[02:06] <googler> 80GB as one partition ?
[02:06] <NickGarvey> CyaniCs|testing: oh alrighty then
[02:07] <Flannel> hmmm, 2TB.  Is what MS says.
[02:07] <jonuk> donvella: i was trying to install Breezy
[02:07] <Flannel> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;310525
[02:07] <Samuli^> donvella, yes, but can you write to it? (you shouldn't)
[02:07] <Paul8688> yeah and it runs under windows too
[02:07] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler you are partially correct
[02:07] <klaiton> hello mans!
[02:07] <googler> partially ,how
[02:07] <CyaniCs|testing> the formating utilities in Win32 (xp/nt/2k) can't format it larger than 32GB
[02:07] <snowfaked> i remember there's difference between then size windows can create and the size it can read
[02:07] <donvella> Samuli^: it wouldnt matter, ill try but he wanted to access his music files through linux and windows, you simply can
[02:07] <CyaniCs|testing> but systems like partitionmagic can
[02:07] <Samuli^> richiefrich, he just said why.
[02:08] <richiefrich> Samuli^, i missed it
[02:08] <carl> Then to install do "sudo apt-get install firefox" right?
[02:08] <richiefrich> carl, yes
[02:08] <CyaniCs|testing> stay away from fat32 on linux with music files!!!!
[02:08] <Samuli^> donvella, what if he wants to correct a typo on the mp3-id or add some new music?
[02:08] <googler> yes cyanics u r right
[02:08] <CyaniCs|testing> it will truncate long names
[02:08] <klaiton> carl yes...
[02:08] <Flannel> CyaniCs|testing: it's not 8TB,its 2.  Just for future arguments ;)
[02:08] <carl> Thank you.
[02:08] <donvella> Samuli^: <jonuk> I want to access Music files through both Linux and Windows
[02:08] <richiefrich> carl, np
[02:08] <richiefrich> donvella, use smaba
[02:09] <klaiton> ;)
[02:09] <donvella> Samuli^: He didnt mention anything other then accessing his music
[02:09] <Quizzer> NickGarvey : thank you .. works for me now
 Samuli, I just wanted to make the rest of the space to be shared between Windows and Linux
[02:09] <CyaniCs|testing> you can jurry rig 8tb partitions.
[02:09] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: :)
[02:09] <Samuli^> donvella, anyways let him be the judge what to do :D
[02:09] <richiefrich> donvella, sorry i think thats for jonuk
[02:09] <CyaniCs|testing> have never messed around (and who in their right might would) with anything larger than 500GB in fat32
[02:09] <NickGarvey> Samuli^: actually, windows can access ubuntu and change it
[02:09] <donvella> Samuli^:  lol
[02:09] <jonuk> okay so to access music files on both Windows and Linux...do I need to make the partition FAT32 or can I leave it NTFS
[02:09] <RandolphCarter> urg, you must've lost like 50GB of that partition in overhead?
[02:10] <googler> so Cyanics what utilities u use to format 32+ GB to FAT32 ?
[02:10] <NickGarvey> jonuk: linux can read windows, but not change it
[02:10] <donvella> jonuk: do you want to edit your music, or just lpay it?
[02:10] <donvella> play*
[02:10] <CyaniCs|testing> do you have a network?
[02:10] <jonuk> play it, and view pictures/videos
[02:10] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk ?
[02:10] <NickGarvey> jonuk: so if you want to just play it, then ntfs is fine
[02:10] <jonuk> okay, cool
[02:10] <donvella> yeh you can do all that on a NTFS file system
[02:10] <Samuli^> jonuk, if you don't need to write to the hd, then ntfs is fine.
[02:10] <NickGarvey> jonuk: yeah ntfs is fine if you don't want it changed
[02:10] <jonuk> what do I set the mount to
[02:10] <jonuk> when I format for NTFS
[02:10] <CyaniCs|testing> if you have a network, you can configure a external HD using NTFS and support writes with SMB
[02:10] <RandolphCarter> /mnt/music should work and meet LSB standards
[02:11] <CyaniCs|testing> you just need an external enclosure with LAN support
[02:11] <steve> Sorry for interupting, but how do I set the password for root?
[02:11] <ompaul> !root
[02:11] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:11] <CyaniCs|testing> sudo passwd root
[02:11] <jonuk> so just mount it to something like /mnt/documents
[02:11] <donvella> unless you reenable it
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> yeah jonuk
[02:11] <Samuli^> jonuk, yeah.
[02:11] <richiefrich> jonuk, no
[02:12] <jonuk> lol
[02:12] <richiefrich> jonuk, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 0
[02:12] <richiefrich> in fstab
[02:12] <carl> How do I install a program such as Ares?
[02:12] <carl> Or
[02:12] <jonuk> richie: sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:12] <googler> IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE NTFS PART. R/W ?
[02:12] <steve> Ah, thanks. Kubuntu and Ubuntu are different when setting root passwords.
[02:12] <RandolphCarter>  /media != LSB?
[02:12] <carl> How do I use the bit torrent?
[02:12] <drasko> Hi all. I installed enlightenment, but it is not shown in gdm, so I can not choose this session. How to add it?
[02:12] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler yes
[02:12] <Flannel> steve, no they're not.
[02:12] <googler> TESTED AND RELIABLE ?
[02:12] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: yep, at least haven't seen that on ubuntu/fedora/rhel
[02:12] <gnomefreak> CyaniCs|testing: please dont advise anyone to enable the root password
[02:12] <CyaniCs|testing> #googler but you need to compile a custom kernel with NTFS write support (experimental)
[02:13] <Samuli^> jonuk, you add that line to /etc/fstab so that it automatically mounts at boot.
[02:13] <Rhine> Has anyone done this before? I need help with some of the steps
[02:13] <Rhine> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[02:13] <googler> OIC
[02:13] <snowfaked> what's wrong with using sudo? usually you don' tneed to use many commands as root
[02:13] <jonuk> Final question:  Since I am going to have to unplug one of my hard drives to install Ubuntu, will it be difficult to configure GRUB to be a Dual-boot system afterwards
[02:13] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: heh, I mean mounting ntfs/fat32 into /media, afaik they should go in /mnt
[02:13] <snowfaked> and you can always use sudo -i to get root shell
[02:13] <ompaul> googler, turn off caps lock please
[02:14] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: i read that with solaris you would mount something AS /mnt and not under /mnt...like mounting /dev/hda as /mnt
[02:14] <Samuli^> jonuk, sort of.. but it can be done pretty easily if you know what you're doing.
[02:14] <googler> ok sorry opaul !
[02:14] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: my memory could fail me as i'm somewhat drunk ;)
[02:14] <jonuk> well, i don't know what i'm doing
[02:14] <jonuk> i wish i could just leave both drives plugged in
[02:14] <jonuk> and get to the damn partitioner
[02:14] <nickrud> drasko, you need to add a .desktop file to /usr/share/xsession that calls whatever e17 uses to start
[02:14] <snowfaked> ...i don't know what that has to do with this but i had an urge to say it...
[02:14] <ompaul> googler, no you can't write to ntfs on ubuntu
[02:14] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you just do that?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: and I'm being overly pedantic, but just checked the LSB and /media is for removable media
[02:14] <nickrud> drasko, er, /usr/share/xsessions
[02:14] <YogSothoth> Hi
[02:14] <h3h_timo> how do you obtain root privaleges temporarily so i can copy things into my pixmaps folder?
[02:15] <donvella> jonuk: all you want to do is install linux on one drive and windows on the other correct?
[02:15] <nickrud> h3h_timo, sudo -i
[02:15] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: sudo?
[02:15] <jonuk> donvella:  yes
[02:15] <ompaul> RandolphCarter, well that use case was on fat :-)
[02:15] <h3h_timo> will i still be able to do things in the desktopp?? with root privelages?
[02:15] <Samuli^> h3h_timo, if you want to use nautilus as a root type: gksudo nautilus
[02:15] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, sudo -Hs
[02:15] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: sudo -s or gksudo nautilus
[02:15] <jonuk> donvella: but when i start the installer, it hangs at Starting Partitioner
[02:15] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you just killdisk both harddrives, install windows on your first HDD then ubuntu on yoru second HDD
[02:15] <h3h_timo> thanks
[02:15] <ompaul> gnomefreak, -i not -s :-)
[02:15] <YogSothoth> How can I type characters that are not on my keyboard? Under Windows I could use Alt and a numerical reference to the character. What can I do under Ubuntu/Gnome?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> ompaul: -i doesnt do gui
[02:15] <ompaul> ah
[02:16] <richiefrich>  -Hs does all
[02:16] <jonuk> donvella:  i already have windows installed on the first hard drive, I'd like to just leave it as is
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> hmm, I guess the installer breaks LSB too, as does mounting drives you always use to /mnt
[02:16] <donvella> YogSothoth: Applications > Accessories > Character Map
[02:16] <HymnToLife> YogSothoth> Ctrl+Shif+codethe code has to be in hexadecimal
[02:16] <DBO> YogSothoth, Ctrl+Shift+numbers
[02:16] <nickrud> gnomefreak, that -H switch is nice
[02:16] <klaiton> ahauhauaa
[02:16] <donvella> jonuk: whats on your second drive atm?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> nickrud: agreed but wasnt thinking about it
[02:16] <richiefrich> nickrud,  -Hs   gives u root term
[02:17] <klaiton> bye! for you
[02:17] <tank1500> YogSothoth: you can just go to Application, Accessories, character map
[02:17] <nickrud> richiefrich, same as -i? Gotta check the environment
[02:17] <jonuk> donvella:  second drive is completely unallocated space...i want to use about 40GB for linux, and just leave the rest free for storage
[02:17] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you just killdisk your second harddrive, so it has no data on it, then install ubuntu fresh on that?
[02:17] <h3h_timo> it still wont let me paste things into it?
[02:17] <CyaniCs|testing> how big is the drive?
[02:17] <richiefrich> nickrud, no i dont think u can run GU"I stuff with -Hs
[02:17] <YogSothoth> Yeah! Ctrl+Shift+00e1 gives me the ! Cool, just what I needed. Thanks guys!
[02:17] <jonuk> donvella: the 2nd hard drive has nothing on it
[02:18] <jonuk> already
[02:18] <donvella> jonuk: doesnt matter, still needs to be killdisked
[02:18] <gnomefreak> nickrud: you cant run gui with the -i parameter
[02:18] <YogSothoth> tank1500, donvella, yes that's the point: I'm bored using the character map
[02:18] <gnomefreak> thats what the -s is for ;)
[02:18] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know if something like marillat codecs exist for ubuntu?
[02:18] <donvella> jonuk: if your having installation problems on a blank HDD you either have a corrupt HDD or you have information stored on it
[02:18] <jonuk> so you think that will keep the Partitioner from hanging
[02:18] <jonuk> donvella, I'm not having trouble installing on the blank HDD
[02:18] <nickrud> gnomefreak, precisely, it protects your settings in $HOME.
[02:18] <vdepizzol> where I can find this wallpaper? http://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidydr/144366945/in/set-72057594051760884/
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell EruditeHermit about codecs
[02:18] <CyaniCs|testing> #donvella low level format
[02:19] <jonuk> I can install on the 2nd hard drive if I unplug the 1st hard drive
[02:19] <gnomefreak> nickrud: correct
[02:19] <richiefrich> jonuk, whats the dev addy /dev/?
[02:19] <jonuk> if I have the 1st one plugged in, the installation stall at Starting Partitioner
[02:19] <donvella> jonuk: :) did you install the HDDs yourself?
[02:19] <jonuk> richie: i'm sorry, i don't know
[02:19] <gnomefreak> vdepizzol: did you look on gnome-look.org or art.gnome.com?
[02:19] <richiefrich> jonuk, thats why--> fdisk -l
[02:20] <donvella> jonuk: you must killdisk, format, then install your preferred OS
[02:20] <richiefrich> jonuk, what is it ?    sda sdb
[02:20] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, it still wont let me copy things into it
[02:20] <jonuk> richie, i need to fdisk my 2nd hard drive, instead of leaving it as unallocated space?
[02:20] <richiefrich> jonuk, but u need to know what it is
[02:20] <donvella> jonuk: YES
[02:20] <jonuk> riche: i'm sorry, i don't know if its sda or sdb
[02:20] <richiefrich> jonuk, fdisk -l
[02:20] <jonuk> okay, i will try to fdisk -1
[02:20] <donvella> jonuk: i told you, killdisk, format the drive, install the OS, it will work just fine
[02:20] <richiefrich> not 1
[02:21] <jonuk> i mean -l
[02:21] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/where/you/wantit
[02:21] <NickGarvey> jonuk: it is a L
[02:21] <richiefrich> l
[02:21] <siriusnova> hey guys i can't seem to get any audio input from my mic on my laptop
[02:21] <DBO> vdepizzol, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=35417
[02:21] <vdepizzol> gnomefreak: i'm goint to seach it
[02:21] <jonuk> yes, sorry
[02:21] <h3h_timo> alright thanks
[02:21] <siriusnova> or from the line-in
[02:21] <siriusnova> can anyone hel
[02:21] <siriusnova> help?
[02:21] <richiefrich> NickGarvey, thanks
[02:21] <jonuk> thank you guys for all of your help
[02:21] <vdepizzol> DBO: thanks :D
[02:21] <richiefrich> np
[02:21] <jonuk> i really appreciate it and will let you know if it works
[02:21] <donvella> jonuk: one more thihng
[02:21] <richiefrich> jonuk, what is it?
[02:21] <donvella> jonuk: did you install the HDDs yourself?
[02:21] <Quizzer> NickGarvey : worked but now i get this problem... configure: error: cannot find "./source/tcl.c" or "source/tcl.o"
[02:22] <jonuk> donvella: 1st hard drive was factory
[02:22] <jonuk> 2nd was installed by me
[02:22] <CyaniCs|testing> ah...
[02:22] <CyaniCs|testing> cable jumpers
[02:22] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: what are you running that is doing that?
[02:22] <donvella> jonuk: did you put the plastic clips into your HDDS to determine the primary from secondary
[02:22] <Quizzer> BitchX .. ./configure
[02:22] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk did you set your pins to master/slave or CS?
[02:22] <jonuk> donvella: yes, my 1st hard drive is master, 2nd is set at slave
[02:22] <Quizzer> i know i could just use the package for bitchx
[02:22] <richiefrich> if it's a SATA he dosnt have to
[02:23] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk and when you are in BIOS, you can see both hard drives?
[02:23] <donvella> you have set that with the plastic clips or just thru bios?
[02:23] <Quizzer> if i cant figure it out by tomorrow morning will justapt-get the package
[02:23] <jonuk> donvella: plastic clips/jumpers whatever you call them
[02:23] <donvella> jumpers yeh
[02:23] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: oh bitchx wants it..
[02:23] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: yeah Iw ould just apt-get it
[02:23] <richiefrich> jonuk, do u see ikt in fdisk -l
[02:23] <Quizzer> yeah
[02:23] <jonuk> everyone: quick run down of what i did...i installed hard drive and formatted it just using disk manager in Windows, but accidentally set it to Dynamic Disk...then started storing files on it
[02:23] <Quizzer> ok ..
[02:23] <jonuk> Recently, I went to Disk Manager, deleted the entire Volume and changed it to Basic Disk
[02:24] <jonuk> now it just has completely Unallocated Space
[02:24] <richiefrich> jonuk, do u see ikt in fdisk -l
[02:24] <CyaniCs|testing> and when you do an installation, are you formatting the disk with an ext3 partition?
[02:24] <CyaniCs|testing> or just letting it setup the disk itself?
[02:24] <jonuk> richie: i'm really sorry, but how do i do that
[02:25] <richiefrich> in a terminal
[02:25] <jonuk> *don';t
[02:25] <tank1500> Is there any way that I can create a new folder in my system files?
[02:25] <jonuk> so just go to a DOS Prompt?
[02:25] <richiefrich> jonuk, sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <richiefrich> jonuk, are u in linux?
[02:25] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk this is in linux, not in windows
[02:25] <jonuk> richie...windows
[02:25] <jonuk> i'm in windows
[02:25] <richiefrich> jonuk, then u can do htese things
[02:25] <NickGarvey> jonuk: oh hahahaha we have been giving you linux instructions
[02:25] <nickrud> tank1500, sudo mkdir /path/to/new/dir
[02:25] <jonuk> i'm just trying to install linux for the first time
[02:25] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk both disks are hooked up right now, right?
[02:25] <jonuk> Nick: shit, sorry guys
[02:26] <NickGarvey> jonuk: heh its fie
[02:26] <ompaul> jonuk, you will need to get a terminal, Applications, Accessories, Terminal, and in there type the bit between the arrow heads >>sudo fdisk -l<< get that output and go to https://paste.ubuntu-nl.org with it and enter it there and then give the url of that page in this channel
[02:26] <richiefrich> jonuk, u need to boot to linux
[02:26] <jonuk> CyaniCs...yes
[02:26] <HymnToLife> lmao ompaul, you typed al that for nothing
[02:26] <donvella> jonuk: what is your interest with linux?
[02:26] <tank1500> nickrud, thanks
[02:26] <CyaniCs|testing> ok. when you reboot, you have your linux install cd in the drive, right?
[02:26] <CyaniCs|testing> and it starts the installer?
[02:26] <jonuk> donvella: i just want to be able to dual-boot linux/windows so I can try out linux and learn the OS
[02:27] <jonuk> then hopefully eventually switch entirely to Linux
[02:27] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk getting you there.
[02:27] <tank1500> hey, is there some place that I can get a list of all those terminal commands?
[02:27] <drasko> nickrud, I'll try this...
[02:27] <NickGarvey> !cli
[02:27] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[02:27] <donvella> jonuk: why dont you use something simple for now like knoppix?
[02:27] <nickrud> drasko, what??
[02:27] <donvella> to get your way around the os
[02:27] <jonuk> CyniCs: yes, I reboot with linux installer CD
[02:27] <richiefrich> jonuk, thats grub no problem
[02:27] <NickGarvey> tank1500: read what ubotu just spit out
[02:27] <ompaul> jonuk, so get yourself the live CD that comes with ubuntu and use that
[02:27] <drasko> nickrud, well,. for xsessions....
[02:27] <CyaniCs|testing> ok, and it starts the installation process?
[02:27] <tank1500> hehe, yeah, thanks
[02:27] <jonuk> ompaul: well, I've used the LiveCD for a little bit and decided to go ahead and permanently install
[02:28] <NickGarvey> jonuk: okie, can you boot the cd and then come back in here?
[02:28] <jonuk> CyaniCs: yes it starts the install process
[02:28] <ompaul> jonuk, so get the install CD and start the install
[02:28] <CyaniCs|testing> when you get to the part that asks you about partitioning your disk, you are telling it to automatically partiton? or are you setting up your own partitions?
[02:28] <jonuk> I do start the install, but when it gets the Starting Partition stage, it loads to 100% and then hangs and goes blank
[02:28] <Rhine> Anyone know the easiest process to write to NTFS i dont care if i nuke the harddrive, becuase if i cant write to it im reformating :/
[02:28] <jonuk> THen I hit Ctrl+C and the partitioner loads to 52% and hangs for got
[02:29] <jonuk> good
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> #Rhine recompile your kernel with NTFS write support
[02:29] <jonuk> So it never loads the actually partitioner for me to start partitioning my disk
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> ok.
[02:29] <Rhine> O.o Is there a guide for this or is a newbie screwed?
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> you need to do a custom partition
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> so instead of automatic, choose manual.
[02:29] <CyaniCs|testing> it will be disk HDB
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Rhine: you write to it you might be reformatting also lol
[02:30] <Rhine> well i have two drives
[02:30] <Rhine> one has windows which im trying to save :/
[02:30] <CyaniCs|testing> (probably hdb)
[02:30] <nickpresta> I was wondering if I could get some help with an uncommon mouse problem?
[02:30] <jonuk> it's a very weird problem, i think
[02:30] <jonuk> i can't find any solutions online
[02:30] <jonuk> in the forums
[02:30] <Rhine> I have tried this but it doesnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=ntfs+captive
[02:30] <chowells> nickpresta: if you just ask the question, someone might know the answer
[02:30] <sorush20> is I need to use hotplug in upload a firmware to a printer caue the printer is silly then what will I don in dapper when the hotplug is gone?
[02:30] <donvella> jonuk: its not wierd, you just arent following procedure
[02:30] <Quizzer> any chance anyone knows of an online source for information about useradd .. want to know how to restrict them to just thier dir. /home/username
[02:30] <sorush20> if
[02:31] <CyaniCs|testing> its confusing the first time.
[02:31] <donvella> jonuk: killdisk, format your second HDD, it must be ready for installation.
[02:31] <nickpresta> well, at seemingly random times, although more commonly when I switch applications, my mouse will go crazy.
[02:31] <ompaul> jonuk, did you have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  or wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge ?
[02:31] <green_earz> jonuk: where the cd from, do you down load it or was it posted to you ?
[02:31] <nickpresta> it will move across the screen extremely fast and almost always end up in the top right corner
[02:31] <CyaniCs|testing> #donvella the installer will format the disk appropriately.
[02:31] <jonuk> ompaul: i've glanced at them, i will read more thorouhgly
[02:31] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: oh I think you want.. chroot
[02:31] <donvella> CyaniCs|testing: not if the disk is corrupt
[02:31] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk do the manual partitioning.
[02:31] <jonuk> donvella: so you think the reason the Partitioner is stalling is because my 2nd hard drive isn't formatted
[02:31] <NickGarvey> Quizzer: not sure how to force that though
[02:31] <nickrud> sorush20, how'd you use hotplug for that <curiosity, mostly>
[02:32] <ompaul> jonuk, go for it now - and no that would not stop it
[02:32] <jonuk> CyaniCs: I can't even get to that part
[02:32] <CyaniCs|testing> it will, just not if the MBR is corrupt.
[02:32] <CyaniCs|testing> try donvellas advice.
[02:32] <sorush20> well there is a firmware file that is uploaded to the printer since the hotplug script does it everytime for me..
[02:32] <donvella> jonuk: i have had installation problems with both windows and linux and not been able to fix anything without killdisking, so i find if all else fails, i pop in killdisk, let it do its thing, fdisk and install
[02:32] <CyaniCs|testing> boot to your live disk, and run an fdisk on the second hard drive, and delete anything.
[02:33] <ompaul> jonuk, as CyaniCs|testing suggested there, that is a good idea, give it a shot and come back to us
[02:33] <Quizzer> ok
[02:33] <Rhine> When i add this to fstab /dev/hda1    /media/hda1    ntfs-fuse    auto,gid=1002,umask=0002    0    0 i get I/O errors on boot i think it is the umask?!
[02:33] <CyaniCs|testing> then boot and run (probably from a floppy) active kill disk (google search "active kill disk"
[02:33] <jonuk> okay so boot LiveCD, fdisk my 2nd hard drive, try install again, then come back
[02:33] <thor> is it possible to put ubuntu in a usb memory and boot using the memory?
[02:33] <sorush20> is it possible for me to write a little script like cat firmware>> printer
[02:33] <ompaul> jonuk, yes
[02:33] <Flannel> thor: yeah.  If your BIOS supports booting from USB.
[02:33] <HymnToLife> thor> use DSL for that
[02:33] <donvella> http://www.killdisk.com i suggest the ISO version CD
[02:34] <sorush20> and I could have that running every time right?
[02:34] <jonuk> okay, before i try this...if it works
[02:34] <CyaniCs|testing> #Flannel is correct
[02:34] <Flannel> thor: but, yeah, ask HymnToLife said, you're probably better off with distros suited for that specifically.
[02:34] <jonuk> what do I mount the NTFS partition to?
[02:34] <CyaniCs|testing> #jonuk "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/WINDOWS"
[02:34] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[02:34] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:34] <HymnToLife> jonuk> to wherever you want
[02:34] <jonuk> okay, thank you CyaniCs
[02:35] <CyaniCs|testing> no worries.
[02:35] <CyaniCs|testing> here to help
[02:35] <ompaul> Rhine, what is ntfs-fuse ? ntfs is a supported mount type
[02:35] <nickrud> sorush20, that's the general idea: you'd put that script into /etc/init.d, and then run sudo update-rc.d defaults NN . NN probably should be <19, since cups is 19
[02:35] <shadeofgrey> hey does anybody here run the boic client for distributed computing
[02:35] <shadeofgrey> ?
[02:35] <ompaul> gnomefreak, cheer up
[02:35] <Determinist> ohh, nice, now konversation is starting to behave like xchat
[02:35] <gnomefreak> im just tired ill be in bed soon
[02:35] <outlawcrook> ok i did all that was said on the page for the nvidia cards
[02:35] <jonuk> okay time to try...thanks again everyone
[02:35] <Determinist> i'm being a masochist again and trying kde on my laptop
[02:36] <richiefrich> gnomefreak, tired us linux ppl dont sleep :)
[02:36] <outlawcrook> then had to do a reinstall of ubuntu
[02:36] <outlawcrook> could not get back in
[02:36] <CyaniCs|testing> im eagerly waiting dapper
[02:36] <gnomefreak> lol richiefrich thats why im tired and i have to fast for 12 hrs anyway so sleep is best way to do that
[02:36] <outlawcrook> gave me error API mismatch
[02:36] <richiefrich> gnomefreak, i stay up for like 40 hours
[02:37] <HymnToLife> I did 50 once
[02:37] <nickrud> youth :(
[02:37] <richiefrich> gnomefreak, is not good but thats what i do
[02:37] <HymnToLife> playing Diablo II on LAN :D
[02:37] <outlawcrook> so what went wrong?
[02:37] <richiefrich> HymnToLife, ive done a week with 'help'
[02:37] <snowfaked> diablo II works with linux?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: under cedega maybe?
[02:37] <jon_> howdy! does ubuntu come with a feed aggregator?
[02:37] <snowfaked> blah cedega :/
[02:37] <HymnToLife> nope, under Windows :D
[02:38] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: maybe wine but i doubt it
[02:38] <nickrud> jon_, straw, liferea are the two that come to mind
[02:38] <snowfaked> are there any other native linux games than et,quake,ut,tuxracer?
[02:38] <donvella> HymnToLife: what does your name mean?
[02:38] <donvella> UT?!
[02:38] <NickGarvey> snowfaked: cube I think
[02:38] <CyaniCs|empire> #jon_ several
[02:38] <donvella> you can run UT on this? onlinE?!
[02:38] <CyaniCs|empire> try akregator
[02:38] <hyphenated> donvella: yes, UT
[02:38] <snowfaked> like playable games, not something like "my lame poker v0.1" ;)
[02:38] <bbrazil> snowfaked: quake2, adventure, nethack
[02:38] <jon_> nickrud: these come with the standard install?
[02:38] <DBO> snowfaked, Doom3
[02:38] <intelikey> quick Q,  i want to use vlc in console, what if any special notes ?
[02:38] <HymnToLife> donvella> slightly offtopic, it's the name of an album by Timo Tolkki
[02:38] <snowfaked> yeah doom and nethack
[02:38] <donvella> hyphenated: i have allocated 2 jobs for you. get my ATI drivers running and get UT running lol
[02:38] <Phoul> How do i get xmms playing wma?
[02:38] <nickrud> jon_, no, but they're easily installed from the net
[02:38] <jon_> thanks, CyaniCs|empire
[02:38] <snowfaked> only shoot-em-ups :/
[02:39] <DBO> snowfaked, Americas Army used to have a linux client, but they killed that
[02:39] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> Frozen Bubble :D
[02:39] <ompaul> !tell donvella about ati
[02:39] <gnomefreak> !wma
[02:39] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Phoul: ^^^^
[02:39] <ompaul> donvella, read the stuff the bot sent you :-)
[02:39] <daddius> anyone know the package name for .wma files?
[02:39] <bbrazil> snowfaked: nethack and adventure aren't shoot'em ups, although if you want that there's hunt
[02:39] <jon_> nickrud: thanks. just didn't want to go find one if there are any already installed
[02:39] <donvella> Phoul: one problem with that mate
[02:39] <gnomefreak> daddius: ^^^^
[02:39] <snowfaked> bbrazil: yep i know nethack
[02:39] <jon_> nickrud: got a fave?
[02:39] <hyphenated> snowfaked: there are plenty of games, but for commercial 3D games, the only ones that work well are from id (doom3, et and so on) or the kids that make Unreal games
[02:39] <ompaul> !tell daddius about restricted
[02:39] <outlawcrook> said the nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.7174 but this module is version 1.0.7667
[02:39] <outlawcrook> what does all that mean?
[02:39] <bbrazil> snowfaked: so why would you want anything else ;)
[02:39] <donvella> Phoul: if the WMA is licenced to windows your screwed, eg ebaumsworld.com
[02:40] <nickrud> jon_, I use liferea when I use an aggregator
[02:40] <snowfaked> bbrazil: i don't, i rarely play anything. i was just interested whether i could abuse my work laptop and instlal some games ;)
[02:40] <daddius> damn
[02:40] <bbrazil> snowfaked: gltron
[02:40] <ompaul> chill, its all fun
[02:40] <jon_> ok. i'll try it. thanks, nickrud!
[02:40] <snowfaked> if i were to play something i could probably get gamecube
[02:40] <Phoul> umm
[02:40] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell donvella about ati
[02:40] <Phoul> Its locally on my computer
[02:40] <Phoul> I guess i should change the format..
[02:40] <nickrud> jon_, apt-cache search aggregator lists those, and some more
[02:40] <Phoul> im not sure how tho..
[02:40] <NickGarvey> snowfaked: mm.. wii...
[02:41] <nickrud> forgot blam
[02:41] <gnomefreak> wma=windows media audio i thought
[02:41] <outlawcrook> anyone have a clue asto what went wrong or what is going on.. :)
[02:41] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> you were right :p
[02:41] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: I believe thats what it is
[02:41] <spartas> so, I want to set up ntp on an internal network and I've already set up ntp-server for the connection to the internet server.  what do I need to change in ntp.conf to make ntp work within my network?
[02:41] <Phoul> gnomefreak: whats a converter?
[02:41] <jon_> ok. thnx, nickrud
[02:41] <nickrud> snowfaked, there are a multitude of games in the games section of synaptic
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Phoul: i dont know my moto is sc*** windows
[02:42] <carl> I'm having problems again >>;
[02:42] <DBO> the most entertaining of witch is kbounce!
[02:42] <snowfaked> nickrud: yep, but they are something like kill bill and 1000 tetris games and so on :)
[02:42] <HymnToLife> Phoul> on windows, iTunes does it
[02:42] <NickGarvey> Carl: lay em on me
[02:42] <gnomefreak> !wma
[02:42] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ^^^ read that Phoul
[02:42] <carl> I can't play my music
[02:42] <carl> I get more errors
[02:42] <gnomefreak> carl: mp3?
[02:42] <carl> Mhm
[02:42] <nickrud> snowfaked, and a flight simulator, some adventure games in the sierra mode, and, and, and :)
[02:42] <ubuntugamer___> Does someone know a really on-line game for ubuntu ?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> go to the site above carl  the same one i gave Phoul
[02:42] <snowfaked> nickrud: maybe if i could get kings quest 7 run on linux....
[02:43] <NickGarvey> carl: paste errors
[02:43] <NickGarvey> carl: if more than 2 lines use pastebin
[02:43] <p47> I can't see the compiz file in gconf-editror, do you know why ? I have all installed in mi machine
[02:43] <snowfaked> dosbox probably runs warcraft2 well in linux also? i promisedto play it against my friend some day :)
[02:43] <p47> Help me !!!!!
[02:43] <gnomefreak> p47: did you try #ubuntu-xgl
[02:43] <Flannel> p47: this is in dapper?  And, don't be annoying.
[02:43] <carl> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[02:43] <snowfaked> i don't even know what games i'm looking for as i play so few games :)
[02:43] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> wine runs warcraft 3 pretty well
[02:44] <HymnToLife> but you have to have strong hardware
[02:44] <ubuntugamer___> Does anypne have a suggestion ??????????????
[02:44] <p47> Yes but Any person anwer me ! :(
[02:44] <nickrud> snowfaked, apt-cache says there are some engines for running sierra games, maybe you can import the data
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ca/opme
[02:44] <tahorg> p47: because you have to launch compiz with gconf option one time first
[02:44] <nickrud> snowfaked, frozenbubble
[02:44] <gnomefreak> p47: either #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[02:44] <gnomefreak>  p47 or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:44] <snowfaked> nickrud: i looked at some sierra engine, but it was for old sierra games only. like kings quest 3/4 and such
[02:44] <nickrud> snowfaked, ah. OK
[02:44] <Flannel> ubuntugamer___: wolfenstein : Enemy Territory is an online game.
[02:45] <outlawcrook> nvidia help please
[02:45] <carl> "Totem could not play 'file:///home/carl/Desktop/Music/Dragonforce_Sonic_Firestorm/01 - My Spirit Will Go On.mp3'."
[02:45] <NickGarvey> carl: have the plugins?
[02:45] <snowfaked> maybe i'll get some cheap tv-input (are there any) and that gamecube :)
[02:45] <HymnToLife> !tel carl about mp3
[02:45] <NickGarvey> !tell carl about mp3
[02:45] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell carl about restricted
[02:45] <carl> Didn't know I needed 'em on a fresh Ubuntu install
[02:45] <carl> >>;
[02:45] <HymnToLife> damn
[02:45] <NickGarvey> HymnToLife: I win!
[02:45] <p47> tahorg : Whit gconf option ? I don't understand you, could you explainme please how ?
[02:45] <NickGarvey> carl: read the article, they are proprietary, they can't include them
[02:45] <p47> Flannel Yes Is a dapper !
[02:45] <HymnToLife> but not now
[02:45] <Flannel> p47: this is NOT the channel for this.  #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:45] <outlawcrook> !tell outlawcrook about nvidia
[02:46] <gnomefreak> p47: i will ask you once more go to #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl
[02:46] <ompaul> spartas, sorry I forgot your question - then I remembered it- all the info you need is in /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html but you need to install >>ntp-doc<< first
[02:46] <carl> Wait, repeat that, but 'dumbed' down, please.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> carl: look at your pms
[02:46] <NthDegree> does anyone know how to disable services that aren't in the basic services section
[02:47] <snowfaked> hmh. gamecube + mario something = 90 euros
[02:47] <sorush20> dose dapper use a udev script?
[02:47] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> Mario Kart DD kicks ass
[02:47] <gnomefreak> sorush20: yes #ubuntu+1 please iirc it does
[02:47] <ubuntugamer___> Someone from Brazil here ?????????
[02:47] <bbrazil> !br
[02:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> ubuntugamer___: #ubuntu-br
[02:47] <spartas> k thx, ompaul
[02:47] <ompaul> NthDegree, there are no services pointing to the outside world in a basic install, but if you install a service it runs, install package "bum" to manage this (boot up manager)
[02:47] <nickrud> NthDegree, System-Admin-Services
[02:48] <blind> giggle.
[02:48] <outlawcrook> ok i did all that was said on the page for the nvidia cards
[02:48] <NthDegree> i'm fairly new to linux so that would be 'apt-get install bum' right?
[02:48] <nickrud> NthDegree, of course, you may need to install bum to see that, I don't remember :)
[02:48] <outlawcrook> gave me error API mismatch
[02:48] <blind> sudo, NthDegree
[02:48] <snowfaked> HymnToLife: yep it was mario cart. too bad it was earlier 70 euros with mario football
[02:48] <outlawcrook> said the nvidia kernel module is version 1.0.7174 but this module is version 1.0.7667
[02:48] <snowfaked> although 20 ueros doesn't matter :)
[02:48] <blind> `sudo apt-get install bum`
[02:49] <outlawcrook> could not get back in
[02:49] <outlawcrook> so i reinstalled os
[02:49] <HymnToLife> snowfaked> I used to have Mario Tennis on the N64, great too
[02:49] <ompaul> NthDegree, and you need universe repos installed  if this has not been done already do this >>/msg ubotu universe<<
[02:49] <||arifaX> I've connected my smartphone successfully via synce- how to acces the filesystem now? google didn't help as expected
[02:50] <snowfaked> too bad i'm working on 12 hours shifts, i don't have much time to play on consoles
[02:50] <carl> I'm having another problem with enabling free formats
[02:50] <carl> Says the 0.8 version is obsolete
[02:50] <HymnToLife> carl > running Dapper ?
[02:50] <ubuntugamer___> Brazil
[02:50] <carl> Whut?
[02:50] <Flannel> ubuntugamer___: #ubuntu-br
[02:50] <outlawcrook> can someone help me on this please
[02:50] <p47> tahorg are you still here ?
[02:51] <ompaul> ubuntugamer___,         >>/join #ubuntu-br<<
[02:51] <tahorg> p47: yes but you should join #ubuntu-xgl
[02:51] <gnomefreak> without hte >><<
[02:51] <tahorg> ubuntugamer___: tecla /join #ubuntu-br
[02:51] <gnomefreak> the*
[02:51] <NthDegree> brb just gonna reboot
[02:51] <CyaniCs|empire> have you run the apt-get update to get the newest versions ?#outlawcrook
[02:51] <snowfaked> whee, i'm getting a free book from ms press \o/
[02:51] <ompaul> gnomefreak, :)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ompaul: ;)
[02:51] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:51] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:51] <blind> blind: :)
[02:51] <snowfaked> maintaining and setting up windows network infrastructure or something. part of the mcsa exams
[02:52] <p47> ok thank's tahorg
[02:52] <carl> I tried the dapper one, says couldn't find the package
[02:52] <FireGirl> hey I have a question about ubuntu..it never really states.. in just about any linux distro.. the redistribution rights.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> p47: we tell you to go to other channels because they can help you better(more) with it because this channel is for warty,hoary, and breezy only for now
[02:53] <ompaul> carl, dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1
[02:53] <nickrud> outlawcrook, first thing you need to learn, is if you screw up your X config (you can't get a graphical desktop) is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <FireGirl> I would like to know.. if I can sell pc's on ebay preloaded with ubuntu or does this break any laws
[02:53] <ompaul> warty is gone please upgrade :)
[02:53] <nickrud> outlawcrook, no reinstall required
[02:53] <tahorg> FireGirl: nope
[02:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell FireGirl about gpl
[02:53] <carl> erm...okay...
[02:53] <gnomefreak> ofcourse not ubotu :(
[02:53] <tahorg> FireGirl: you're welcome to do so :)
[02:53] <FireGirl> really?
[02:53] <FireGirl> thats awesome
[02:53] <ompaul> firegirl  give it to anyone you like
[02:53] <gnomefreak> FireGirl: yes you can sell pcs with ubuntu installed
[02:54] <FireGirl> i just wanted to make sure it wasnt illegal before i done it
[02:54] <gnomefreak> FireGirl: i suggest reading the gpl
[02:54] <FireGirl> i did read the gpl.. it doesnt make sense really
[02:54] <lendyl> help
[02:54] <gnomefreak> nickrud: you have to give the person a way to get it either with it or download it
[02:54] <NickGarvey> FireGirl: doesn't?
[02:54] <tahorg> gnomefreak: if she ships the instalation cd with the pc there is no problem for sure
[02:54] <NickGarvey> lendyl: how can we help you?
[02:54] <FireGirl> i think it means i can do it.. if I give open source.. and acknowledge that I dont take any credit for the software
[02:54] <gnomefreak> FireGirl: than try ubuntu.com
[02:54] <nickrud> gnomefreak, any source is ok then. Seems reasonable
[02:55] <ompaul> firegirl if you want to talk about the GPL its not core to this channel take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and I will be glad to talk about it
[02:55] <Flannel> FireGirl: no, not that.  It means you can't CLOSE your source.
[02:55] <gnomefreak> nickrud: yes as long as its the source for ubuntu (if sending ubuntu)
[02:55] <tahorg> FireGirl: well, burn an iso or ship the pc with the copy. Everything's alright
[02:55] <tahorg> s/or/and/
[02:55] <gnomefreak> as long as she gives them the cd shes free and clear ;)
[02:56] <Sanne> FireGirl, pay attention to any non-free or restricted packages. Usually you won't be allowed to pre install those, I believe, like, for example, the binary nvidia/ati drivers.
[02:58] <jerware> fellaz.
[02:59] <lendyl> nickgarvy: i had a problem, about downloading.... i download a file in the web then after that a save it in my desktop then when i tried open it theres this popup icon telling "plese enter your password to run/usr/bin/gnome-app-install  '/home lendyl/desktop/chikka'
[02:59] <tahorg> FireGirl: you can even ask the cd for free on the net
[02:59] <lendyl> what should i do?
[02:59] <jerware> i think i have a hardware issue.  my eth0 is no longer recognized, but a few hours ago i had a working network conection.
[03:00] <HymnToLife> lendyl> what kind of file did you download ?
[03:00] <tahorg> jerware: sudo ifconfig eth0 say something ?
[03:00] <tahorg> say
[03:00] <tahorg> s
[03:00] <jerware> i remember walking with my laptop in the rain when it stopped being recognized, but it worked a few times after that.
[03:01] <jerware> tahorg: eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[03:01] <ompaul> jerware, check that it is still seated correctly in the motherboard, it may actually be faulty, and try this command >>sudo dhclient << its a little rough but might work
[03:01] <tahorg> ompaul: no, it won't work now
[03:01] <ompaul> jerware, the only time I have had issues with eth0 is when I had to replace one
[03:01] <jerware> ompaul: it is integeraged in my laptop
[03:01] <ompaul> ooch
[03:02] <tahorg> jerware: lspci | grep -i ethernet
[03:02] <siriusnova> anyone here use the open sound system drivers instead of alsa?
[03:02] <jerware> but it worked this morning, strange
[03:02] <tahorg> jerware: anything ?
[03:02] <siriusnova> my mic doesnt work and the alsa guys can't help me :(
[03:02] <jerware> im working off my wireless nic now.
[03:02] <tahorg> jerware: what's the model of your network adaptator
[03:03] <jerware> interesting; the result of taht comand shows 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet (rev 01)
[03:03] <swissbear> hi , I am this problem : I can't play wmv and asf files
[03:03] <jerware> so it's not recognized by ifconfig, but it is by lspci
[03:03] <ompaul> !tell swissbear about restricted
[03:04] <swissbear> already download w32codec
[03:04] <tahorg> jerware: try, sudo modprobe tg3
[03:04] <tahorg> jerware: then ifup eth0
[03:04] <jerware> tahorg:  no results with sudo modprobe tg3
[03:04] <tahorg> jerware: dmesg | tail
[03:05] <tahorg> gives you something about the ether controler ?
[03:05] <tahorg> jerware: try the ifconfig command I already gave you
[03:05] <tahorg> jerware: to see if eth0 is up again
[03:05] <jerware> smsg | tail  says http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Z4U8Kl40.html
[03:06] <swissbear> any idea for play wmv?
[03:06] <jerware> ifconfig still says eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[03:06] <DBO> !restricted
[03:06] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:06] <tahorg> looks like the driver is already loaded
[03:06] <jerware> swissbear: i can play wmv
[03:06] <jerware> down load Mplayer
[03:06] <tahorg> jerware: try a ifconfig -a and look at the ethx inteface
[03:06] <tahorg> s
[03:06] <swissbear> I did
[03:06] <tahorg> jerware: perhaps it's eth2 ou eth3
[03:07] <jerware> you might need win32 codecs swissbeaer
[03:07] <DBO> swissbear, so long as the wmv does not have an encrypted stream you will be able to play it (after you isntall the restricted formats)
[03:07] <justin__> hello
[03:07] <DBO> justin__, hello
[03:07] <swissbear> I have w32 codec
[03:07] <DBO> swissbear, it sounds like your wmv stream is DRM'd
[03:07] <justin__> hey do anyone know how i can update Firefox  bec i cant download anything
[03:07] <HymnToLife> swissbear> then you need a player that can use them like Mplayer or xine
[03:07] <jerware> eth1 and lo are the only listed in ifconfig
[03:08] <swissbear> what is drm?
[03:08] <tahorg> jerware: try a sudo rmmod tg3 && sudo modprobe tg3
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !tell justin__ about ff1.5
[03:08] <tahorg> jerware: to unload and reload the driver
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !drm
[03:08] <ubotu> HymnToLife: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:08] <jerware> but ifconfig -a shows a sit0
[03:08] <carl__> I need help instaling a .bin file
[03:08] <carl__> >>;
[03:08] <tahorg> jerware: after that try a ifconfig eth0 again
[03:08] <jerware> ok
[03:08] <perry753> justin__, Please use a real Linux distribution.
[03:08] <swissbear> I have mplayer
[03:08] <justin__> i did
[03:08] <lendyl> ihymntolife:ts a for free something that i could connect my pc to mibile
[03:09] <DBO> justin__, you have to temporarly chown ff1.5's directory in opt, then chown it back to root after the update
[03:09] <HymnToLife> ?
[03:09] <perry753> nick125, Hi
[03:09] <jerware> still same results with sudo rmmod tg3 && sudo modprobe tg3 ; ifconfig -a  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/vKXlr281.html
[03:10] <jerware> i guess i need a new nic
[03:10] <jerware> are there any pcmcia nic
[03:10] <Nullified> !java
[03:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:10] <justin__> ty
[03:10] <jerware> with a linux compatable driver?
[03:10] <jerware> with a linux compatable driver?
[03:10] <tahorg> jerware: well il looks bad.
[03:10] <jerware> yea
[03:10] <carl__> Can somebody help me install a .bin file that was downloaded to my desktop?
[03:10] <tahorg> jerware: what did you do ?
[03:10] <nickrud> Nullified, getting the java deb from the seveas repo (!javadebs) is the easiest
[03:10] <tahorg> jerware: do you have ndiswrapper loaded ?
[03:10] <btwill> hi
[03:10] <ompaul> carl__, what is it for?
[03:10] <kbrooks> hmm. who is nick125
[03:11] <jerware> tahorg: whats ndiswrapper? or how can i tell
[03:11] <carl__> RealPlayer10
[03:11] <jerware> i think so
[03:11] <kbrooks> aha! a bot!
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: well, first, what did you do ?
[03:11] <btwill> hi nick125
[03:11] <perry753> nick125 is a gentoo user
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[03:11] <perry753> he will bite you
[03:11] <nick125> kbrooks: I'm just here to watch perry753 get kickbanned..
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: to see if ndiswrapper is loaded
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: which is baad.
[03:11] <kbrooks> perry753: be quiet
[03:11] <tahorg> jerware: it's a centrino 2 right ?
[03:11] <ompaul> !tell carl__ about restricted
[03:11] <carl__> >>;
[03:11] <ompaul> carl__, that will tell you how to install that package
[03:12] <ompaul> carl__, the link that the bot just sent you
[03:12] <jerware> tahorg: i was walking in the rain while playing mp3's on my laptop
[03:12] <jerware> a drop could have hit the rj-45 connector, but it worked a few days later, now it's down again
[03:12] <jerware> doh nothing from  lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[03:12] <jerware> i should look up how to install it
[03:12] <jerware> a centrino, yes
[03:13] <perry753> kbrooks, why?
[03:13] <perry753> you hatin???
[03:13] <tahorg> jerware: it's strange because lspci sees your card
[03:13] <kbrooks> Seveas: i have a reason to believe that perry753 is trolling on nick125
[03:13] <ompaul> jerware, why not use the pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org for more than two lines of keep all the text on as few a lines as possible :-)
[03:13] <tahorg> jerware: so it's on the bus answering
[03:13] <perry753> O.o
[03:13] <tahorg> jerware: but the driver ignores it
[03:13] <nickrud> heh. As long as their useful ...
[03:13] <h3h_timo> why do i need a password to access a samba share that doesnt require a password
[03:14] <nickrud> s/their/they are/
[03:14] <kbrooks> Seveas: Please act on this ASAP
[03:14] <moua> hi
[03:14] <tahorg> jerware: the problem seems to be hardware
[03:14] <h3h_timo> nevermind
[03:15] <tahorg> jerware: you already tried a reboot ? to see if a bios reset could fix it
[03:15] <kbrooks> nick125: he left
[03:16] <nick125> kbrooks: yeah, he said he was coming here to tell everyone that asked for help to use a real distro..I just wanted to see him get k/bed
[03:17] <high-freq> !ati
[03:17] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:17] <kbrooks> nick125: K
[03:17] <tahorg> nick125: he's done it only once
[03:17] <luke> hello
[03:17] <tahorg> (that I saw)
[03:17] <luke> can anybody help me with a Wine problem?
[03:17] <tahorg> stop drinking

[03:17] <rbrt> muhahah.
[03:17] <nickrud> rflol
[03:17] <rbrt> :)
[03:17] <CyaniCs|empire> lol
[03:17] <Phoenix92x> hi, Im running dapper drake with kernel version 2.6.15-22-386 on a Dell Latitude D610 with a Radeon X300 graphics card. I'm having a problem getting translucency to work correctly. Im using the latest fglrx driver, but when I enable translucency the display is...well...corrupted is the best word for it. Can anyone help me?
[03:17] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[03:17] <NickGarvey> luke: heh, what do you need
[03:17] <CyaniCs|empire> #Phoenix92x move to the dapper channel
[03:18] <ompaul> CyaniCs|empire,  if I may ask why do you preface all lines with a #?
[03:18] <HymnToLife> ompaul> they're commented out, meaning that we shouldn't care about them
[03:19] <ompaul> HymnToLife, stop it
[03:19] <bimberi> lol HymnToLife
[03:19] <NickGarvey> heh I think it might be his client
[03:19] <Phoenix92x> is it #dapper ? because that has no one in it
[03:19] <NickGarvey> Phoenix92x: #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <CyaniCs|E> #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <HymnToLife> it's #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <nalioth> Phoenix92x: #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <Phoenix92x> thanks
[03:19] <NickGarvey> I win
[03:19] <rbrt> Hmm. I think it is #ubuntu+1 ;-)
[03:20] <CyaniCs|E> lol
[03:20] <CyaniCs|E> DIBS
[03:20] <rbrt> *g*
[03:20] <daryl_> What is the command to reconfigure my xorg.conf file?
[03:20] <bimberi> !xorg
[03:20] <ubotu> xorg is, like, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[03:20] <tahorg> vim ?
[03:20] <nalioth> !xcfg
[03:20] <ubotu> [xcfg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:20] <NickGarvey> daryl_: dpkg-recon- nevermind heh
[03:20] <rbrt> nano!
[03:20] <tahorg> oops I did it again
[03:20] <nalioth> bimberi: mine is shorter
[03:20] <rbrt> ;)
[03:21] <nickrud> bimberi's is better nalioth :P
[03:21] <tahorg> nalioth: generaly people don't say those thing.
[03:21] <tahorg> s
[03:21] <tahorg> jerware: so
[03:21] <nickrud> o.O
[03:21] <tahorg> jerware: anything new with your broadcom gigabit ?
[03:22] <ompaul> tahorg, I think they know each other, just a little bit
[03:24] <tahorg> bimberi: I don't know what you mean.
[03:24] <tahorg> bimberi: ;)
[03:24] <jramsey> !bison
[03:24] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jramsey
[03:24] <ompaul> !info bison
[03:24] <ubotu> bison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:2.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 1104 kB
[03:25] <jramsey> ompaul, txs
[03:25] <ompaul> jramsey, np
[03:26] <icyvapor> anyone has seen this kind of error message before?
[03:26] <icyvapor> ** (network-admin:7801): CRITICAL **: gst_xml_element_destroy: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[03:26] <HymnToLife> it doesn't look good
[03:27] <jramsey> icyvapor, what component gen'ed the error?
[03:27] <icyvapor> well.. it's not a major thing.. just seems my network config doesn't save...
[03:27] <icyvapor> network-admin
[03:29] <hou5ton> Is it very risky to go ahead and upgrade to Dapper now?
[03:30] <HymnToLife> two weeks before release, I think it's pretty solid
[03:30] <chowells> works for me
[03:30] <icyvapor> I'm using a wireless router.. the SSID is plain text instead of Hex.. by default Ubentu use Hex, so each time I boot up it, I have to manually set the 'network-admin'
[03:30] <tahorg> hou5ton: perhaps some minor problems
[03:31] <tahorg> icyvapor: ssid ?
[03:31] <tahorg> icyvapor: you mean wep key
[03:31] <tahorg> no ?
[03:31] <icyvapor> because my config doesn's seem to save ..
[03:32] <icyvapor> sorry it's ESSID
[03:32] <tahorg> ESSID is a string
[03:33] <tahorg> hex or whatever
[03:33] <tahorg> it should work
[03:34] <hou5ton> so ... as I understand it ... in /etc/apt/sources.lst, everywhere it says "breezy" ... like in "breezy-backports" ... I change it to "dapper-backports"  ... correct?