[00:01] <akik> clincks: i.e. "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>"
[00:01] <clincks> I did that already :-(
[00:02] <rdh> whats the ip address?
[00:03] <Boyette> hi
[00:03] <Boyette> im trying to install anbox
[00:03] <Boyette> anyone who can help with that
[00:06] <clincks> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:07] <rdh> Boyette, says on the site to install via snaps
[00:08] <Boyette> yes
[00:08] <Boyette> i know
[00:09] <Boyette> but
[00:09] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/UuLC3MSV
[00:10] <clincks> I did exactly same than: http://mixeduperic.com/ubuntu/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-on-a-ubuntu-server.html
[00:11] <clincks> Ok, I give up for today...  How long is "a start job is running for dev-mapper-cryptswap1.device" supposed to take
[00:16] <rdh> Boyette, you're going to have to get in touch with a developer over there, but they are warning that it is still Alpha.
[00:17] <akem> hm, in Ubuntu 17.10 i changed the dock icon size, but then all my desktop icons(not dock) disappeared :/ any idea to get them back?
[00:19] <Boyette> its ok
[00:19] <Boyette> if its alpha
[00:22] <sunrunner20> its been 30 min so far... it didn't take 30min to encrypt my entire HDD with bitlocker
[00:23] <Geo> Hi - In my GUI, I seem to recall there being someway I can have up to 4 different 'desktop' screens by using some hot keys to switch between them... does what I'm trying to say sound familiar to anyone and, if so, how?
[00:25] <BillD73> Geo: they are called workspaces.
[00:26] <akem> Geo, I don't know the keyboard shortcut but you can also switch workspaces using the mouse wheel on the dot matrix of the dock - bottom left.
[00:26] <akem> on Ubuntu 17.10 at least...
[00:27] <Geo> here we go, found how to enable them in 'Appearance'
[00:27] <Geo> thats what I was after. Thanks guys
[00:36] <redlegion> alright, i've been trying to work through this suspend/resume issue for a while, and i think i have it narrowed down a bit
[00:36] <redlegion> well, for myself anyways
[00:36] <redlegion> if i chvt 1 before suspending, i can resume
[00:36] <redlegion> and i can type, and the computer operates mostly normally
[00:36] <redlegion> but once i chvt 7, it's frozen
[00:36] <redlegion> dead frozen
[00:37] <redlegion> only resuming on battery, though
[00:37] <redlegion> resume on AC is fine
[00:39] <TJ-> redlegion: sounds like an ACPI issue; have you tried a custom acpi_osi= ?
[00:39] <redlegion> yeah, i've tried a few suggestions
[00:39] <redlegion> acpi_osi=linux, acpi_osi='Windows 2013'
[00:41] <TJ-> redlegion: best config to be sure the correct acpi_osi is being used, is "apci_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" "  (the ! tells the kernel not to offer any of it's built-in OSIs)
[00:41] <TJ-> redlegion: I assume you found "Windows 2013" by searching the PC's ACPI DSDT ?
[00:41] <redlegion> no, it was just one of about six suggestions for this issue i've tried
[00:42] <redlegion> though the i8042 fix was gold
[00:42] <TJ-> redlegion: see my article on the workaround http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[00:43] <TJ-> redlegion: if it still happens after the correct variation is set, we can dig into the GUI power-manager
[00:47] <jcjc> if i did a `mv a/* b/*` did i completely just erase all of the files in the "a" folder?
[00:47] <redlegion> TJ-: giving it a go, i'll let you know what happens.
[00:53] <redlegion> TJ-: ohdeargod
[00:53] <redlegion> you are my savior
[00:54] <redlegion> a quit `cat /proc/cmdline` to make sure everything was in order, and lo and behold i have successful resume after suspend on BAT
[00:54] <redlegion> i do appreciate the help
[00:54] <bergers89> hi: is there any ubuntu iso where i can boot with a serial console (console=ttyS0) ?
[00:56] <TJ-> redlegion: It's amazing how many times that solves these kind of power issues
[00:56] <redlegion> i don't doubt it
[00:58] <wiper> hello. I am literally retarded. That's both why I want a private vpn and also why I can't figure the most basic shit out
[00:58] <bazhang> wiper, no cursing here
[00:58] <wiper> sorry
[00:59] <redlegion> wiper, there are a ton of step by step howtos to get openvpn running pretty quickly
[00:59] <wiper> yes, but as a retard, I cannot determine which guide is most retard-friendly
[01:01] <bazhang> wiper, please stay topical, no need to use that as a pejorative
[01:01] <wiper> ?
[01:02] <wiper> what?
[01:02] <SlidingHorn> The R word...no need for that :)
[01:02] <wiper> what's a pejorative?
[01:02] <bazhang> wiper, it's using that word here, and using it as a bad name
[01:03] <wiper> what word?
[01:03] <wiper> pejirative?
[01:03] <bazhang> wiper,  the word 'retard'
[01:03] <wiper> im not retarded wth
[01:04] <redlegion> :|
[01:05] <wiper> Does anyone know where I can get a one click app or perhaps a docker for automatic configuration of open VPN?
[01:06] <TJ-> wiper: Network Manager can import an openvpn config file (generally distributed as .ovpn)
[01:08] <wiper> Does anyone know where I can get a one click app or perhaps a docker for automatic configuration of open VPN?
[01:08] <redlegion> wiper: this is what i used to set up my own openvpn daemon, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04
[01:08] <redlegion> your miles may vary
[01:08] <redlegion> it's not docker, but it's still pretty easy
[01:09] <wiper> ty
[01:09] <wiper> sorry for accidental spam
[01:09] <TJ-> My option is 4 clicks I think ... nm-applet > Edit Connections... > Add > VPN=Import a saved VPN configuration...
[01:13] <billy_> oi
[01:13] <billy_> alguem ai
[01:14] <wiper> oh also, nobody knows who did Therac25
[01:14] <wiper> and ubuntu is us intelligence
[01:14] <wiper> but they also have back doors in circuit design
[01:15] <bazhang> wiper, thats way offtopic here, please stop
[01:16] <wiper> I'm sorry
[01:17] <wiper> bazhang can you help me
[01:17] <wiper> get unbanned from ##chat? I think there has been a big misunderstanding
[01:17] <wiper> Apparently because my account is new people think I'm someone else
[01:17] <bazhang> thats also never topical here wiper
[01:18] <wiper> bazhang, does anybody on IRC like you?
[01:19] <SlidingHorn> can we just ban this guy already?
[01:19]  * TJ- puts hand up
[01:30] <superguest> 1) All 5 programs are implemented as a callback function
[01:30] <superguest> 2) Each of the 5 programs is implemented as a callback function
[01:30] <superguest> is 1) necessarily not following the English grammar?
[01:31] <superguest> oops, wrong channel
[02:01] <seth> Does anyone know how to handle kvm-spice app armor bug while using Virt-Manager/Libvirt
[02:02] <seth> https://paste.gnome.org/pfpu4tnrz
[02:04] <TJ-> seth: does "/etc/apparmor.d/libvirt/" exist?
[02:05] <seth> No
[02:05] <seth> It's an empty file.
[02:05] <TJ-> seth: it is a directory, so are you saying it does exist but there are no files in it?
[02:06] <seth> It exists.
[02:06] <seth> There's 4 files.
[02:09] <TJ-> seth: I think the problem is apparmor hasn't been told about kvm-spice binary, I grepped /etc/apparmor.d/ and 'kvm' is there but not 'kvm-spice' so I think it needs manually adding
[02:12] <TJ-> seth: I *think* this will fix it:   sudo sed -r '/\/usr\/bin\/kvm rmix/ i \ \ /usr/bin/kvm-spice rmix,' /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/libvirt-qemu
[02:13] <TJ-> seth: errr, no, that will only print the change, not make it!
[02:13] <TJ-> seth: here you go   sudo sed -i -r '/\/usr\/bin\/kvm rmix/ i \ \ /usr/bin/kvm-spice rmix,' /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/libvirt-qemu
[02:18] <seth> Not working.
[02:22] <seth> It works when I create a new VM.
[02:22] <seth> my old VM is bugged.
[02:22] <seth> Do I need to simply delete the old files?
[02:23] <walexar> https://youtu.be/DbCEf5reGD4?t=2m9s
[02:38] <yuta> hello, after updated ubuntu to the last version, i see escaped characters on apt output
[02:38] <yuta> El programa \xabnodejs\xbb no est\xe1 instalado. Puede instalarlo escribiendo: sudo apt install nodejs
[02:38] <yuta> what is going on?
[02:43] <widp> How does ubuntu package upstream repositories?
[02:44] <widp> are there rules like - "If there is a pypi repo let's not package it ourselves"?
[02:44] <TJ-> !packaging | widp
[02:48] <bugbunny> yuta: Looks like the terminal emulator is not interpreting the escape characters, at a glance, looks like apt is outputing color decorations
[02:49] <yuta> bugbunny: sorry, not apt. just running any command on terminal
[02:49] <yuta> $ ioj No se ha encontrado la orden \xabioj\xbb, quiz\xe1s quiso decir:  La orden \xabiog\xbb del paquete \xabiog\xbb (universe)  La orden \xabiok\xbb del paquete \xabiok\xbb (universe)  La orden \xabij\xbb del paquete \xabderby-tools\xbb (universe) ioj: no se encontr\xf3 la orden
[02:49] <TJ-> yuta: is it a UTF-8 issue?
[02:50] <yuta> TJ-: i dont know, that why i ask xD
[02:50] <TJ-> yuta: what does 'locale' report?
[02:50] <yuta> LANG=C LANGUAGE=es_AR:es LC_CTYPE="C" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_COLLATE="C" LC_MONETARY="C" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_PAPER="C" LC_NAME="C" LC_ADDRESS="C" LC_TELEPHONE="C" LC_MEASUREMENT="C" LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" LC_ALL=
[02:51] <memo1> hi, if im using the find command, and i want to sort by modified and delete the last 15 files, how i do it?
[02:53] <TJ-> yuta: there's the problem, the locale is C language, not something lile es_AR.UTF-8
[02:55] <TJ-> yuta: try "sudo update-locale LANG=es_AR.UTF-8"
[02:56] <raul_> hello someone know a page good on nodejs y mysql socketsio
[03:00] <R13ose> TJ-: hi
[03:35] <sucker> well, when the 18.04 version will be distributed??????
[03:41] <s10gopal> how to disable "hwclock --systohc" during shutdown ?
[03:57] <kvuser7> Can someone help me with an issue I'm having with apt-get?
[03:58] <zanshin> kvuser7: We won't know until you ask ...
[04:00] <kvuser7> I need to update it, but it can't. I'll post the errors I'm getting
[04:00] <kvuser7> https://gist.github.com/AedificoLudus/26c67fd319d2a7ad4a3e2a0f75e23cdd
[04:01] <zanshin> Did you use `sudo`, as in: `sudo apt-get ...` ?
[04:02] <kvuser7> sudo apt-get update
[04:02] <kvuser7> yeah
[04:02] <kvuser7> should I try again incase?
[04:02] <zanshin> what does `ps -ef | grep apt` return?
[04:03] <kvuser7> aedus    18591  1681  0 14:03 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto --exclude-dir=.bzr --exclude-dir=CVS --exclude-dir=.git --exclude-dir=.hg --exclude-dir=.svn apt
[04:04] <s10gopal> how to disable "hwclock --systohc" during shutdown ?
[04:04] <zanshin> OK, so apt isn't already running. In `/var/lib/apt/lists` are there any lock files?
[04:05] <kvuser7> so... cd /var/lib/apt/lists?
[04:05] <zanshin> kvuser7: Yes. Then `ls -al`
[04:05] <kvuser7> thats a lot of files
[04:05] <zanshin> kvuser7: Try ls -al *lock*
[04:06] <kvuser7> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jan  6 07:35 lock
[04:06] <kvuser7> only one now
[04:08] <zanshin> Hmm.  Not sure that's where the apt lock file is, and I'm not at a Ubuntu bax at the moment. You could tyr `sudo apt update` again
[04:08] <kvuser7> that seems to be working -_-
[04:09] <kvuser7> ok apt-get is in the list
[04:10] <kvuser7> I think it's working?
[04:11] <kvuser7> I love ubuntu for working, but I still know next to nothing about using it beyond the basics
[04:11] <kvuser7> chow
[04:14] <Lin-Buo-Ren> kvuser7: Check out the Debian reference then: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
[05:01] <agio> anyone know how to get menu's in i3?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> agio: check #i3 chanel
[05:02] <agio> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks
[05:09] <auctus> how do i uninstall the amazon stuff
[05:12] <auctus> i uninstalled it from the software center, wonder if theres any other amazon stuff lurking
[05:26] <energizer> in gnome, im trying to set the display scaling to 200% in "Displays", but it doesnt do anything. What can I do to fix this? 17.10.
[05:33] <MarchHare> Anyone have any good ideas for forcing pulseaudio to just output some sub-audible sine wave continuously, so that it keeps my damnable speaker system awake?
[05:34] <MarchHare> My problem doesn't seem to be the idle module or power idle settings on the sound card. Seems to be the sound system it's connected to wanting to idle on silence.
[05:38] <bugbunny> MarchHare: Why? It can turn itself back on when it recieves signal?
[05:38] <bugbunny> s/can/can't/
[05:39] <bugbunny> Are those battery powered speakers?
[05:39] <MarchHare> bugbunny: No, it's a wall-powered sound bar. It takes about 5 seconds to come back on fully if I don't play anything for a minute or two
[05:40] <MarchHare> It turns back on just fine, it just takes 3~5 seconds to do it
[05:40] <MarchHare> And I don't like that. It's on analog line-out for a reason
[05:40] <MarchHare> If I hit play, I want to hear a damn sound as soon as that mouse clicks
[05:41] <guiverc> MarchHare: anoise (ambient noise) has lots of audio files (white, grey, coffee) which play on loop; then use pavucontrol to lower volume to that ~inaudible but enough to keep it awake ??  (thought anyway; you could do the same for any app)
[05:41] <bugbunny> I was just thinking that
[05:41] <MarchHare> guiverc: Might be worth a shot.
[05:41] <MarchHare> I'd be fine with just a quiet sine.
[05:42] <MarchHare> Apparently sox outputting at -100db isn't enough
[05:43] <bugbunny> That was another issue I was thinking about
[05:44] <bugbunny> At what level of noise does the speaker turns of and is it smart enough to distiguish different sound
[05:44] <bugbunny> MarchHare: It's designed to be energy efficient? I wonder why it has such feature.
[05:46] <MarchHare> No clue. Seems to not be a problem when I listen directly to line-out with the phones. Seems to be the sound system. I sent a support request asking how I can turn that off. They'll probably be retards and assume I'm asking how to fix a sync delay.
[05:47] <MarchHare> Definitely not a pulseaudio issue. When I watch the loaded apps, as soon as I kill the music with stop, it clears from pulse. When I restart, it appears right back in there immediately.
[05:48] <guiverc> MarchHare: script your own -- paplay lets you set volume, create your own sound file, even pavucontrol lets you control volume of playing file, but I'd use paplay --volume, and not have it consistent, just short & regularly enough to keep your sound system awake..
[05:49] <MarchHare> guiverc: I'm trying to figure out how to daemonize it, so I can just run it on boot and leave it on.
[05:50] <MarchHare> guiverc: I still have to tune it so it can't be heard by anything but the sound system
[05:51] <MarchHare> guiverc: I wonder if the problem isn't that it's idle, but that it's also negotiating a bluetooth wakeup with the sub.
[05:51] <MarchHare> And simply doesn't output sound until that happens
[05:51] <bugbunny> I was going to ask how it was connected
[05:51] <bugbunny> You don't think it's probably at the Interface layer?
[05:51] <guiverc> if it were me; I'd just use a background job started @ login (so I could kill, restart if necessary) - a heartbeat type signal every 30 secs maybe (or whatever keeps it alive)
[05:52] <MarchHare> bugbunny: Line out to the sound bar. Soundbar connects to the sub via bt
[05:52] <bugbunny> oO
[05:52] <bugbunny> K
[05:52] <guiverc> not manually started at login; script run by login script .bash..
[05:52] <MarchHare> bugbunny: Seems to be solidly an issue with the unit, headphones play sound immediately.
[05:52] <mmcn-node1> 21321
[05:53] <mmcn-node1> 123123123
[05:53] <mmcn-node1> 2102.1321
[05:53] <MarchHare> guideline: I think a heartbeat would probably be reasonable.
[05:56] <bugbunny> merpnderp: You plug the headphone into the Unit
[05:56] <bugbunny> ?
[05:57] <bugbunny> merpnderp: Btw, if you come out with a workable solution... Nice to hear about it
[05:57] <MarchHare> No, I plugged it into the line-out on the back of the pc (audio source)
[05:57] <bugbunny> Ahhh
[05:58] <MarchHare> What I need is an old-style tape player I can just plug into the unit and see if I get the same delay
[05:58] <bugbunny> I think I have picture in my head
[05:58] <MarchHare> Take the PC out of the equation
[05:58] <bugbunny> How much did you pay for it?
[05:58] <MarchHare> Didn't. Was a gift.
[05:58] <bugbunny> MarchHare: You don't have a smart phone?
[05:59] <MarchHare> Probably in the $150-$200 range is my guess/
[05:59] <bugbunny> k
[05:59] <MarchHare> bugbunny: That's a good idea.
[05:59] <MarchHare> Gimme a minute
[06:00] <pranav> Hi All, Kindly help me how to setup fingerprint in Ubuntu 18.04?
[06:01] <pranav> I tried everything on Ubuntu 16.04, 17.10 and 17.04 but not able to use NVIDIA graphic driver. These system even failed to load properly often. Thus I moved to 18.04 build image
[06:01] <pranav> The system loads properly but please tell me how to setup NVIDIA graphic driver
[06:01] <MarchHare> pranav: Do you need to blacklist the nouveau driver?
[06:02] <Ben64> pranav: 18.04 isn't released yet, for support head over to #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <guiverc> pranav: 18.04 isn't supported yet (beta only) so #ubuntu+1 may be more appropriate
[06:03] <pranav> MarchHare: Ubuntu 18.04 ran smoothly without any config changes or side effects. However, nvidia driver is not working, i want to setup?
[06:03] <MarchHare> pranav: Google "blacklist nouveau driver ubuntu" and follow the instructions, then try to reinstall your nv drivers
[06:03] <pranav> sure
[06:04] <MarchHare> pranav: I had a problem with that a few months ago, it was locking up my machine, and not using the real nv drivers even though I had installed them
[06:04] <pranav> MarchHare: Can I install two ubuntu 18.04? I don't want to curropt my existing ubuntu with this experiement as it happened with 17.10 and 16.04
[06:05] <Ben64> pranav: again, #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 support until release
[06:06] <bugbunny> pranav: Yes, dual boot
[06:07] <MarchHare> Not sure if the audio issue is my sound card or the unit anymore. Seems to kick on pretty quickly when I hit play on my phone after sitting for a few minutes
[06:07] <bugbunny> pranav: Any questions specific to 18.04, the other volunteers of the room want's you to move to #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <MarchHare> bugbunny: I don't think his question is specific.
[06:07] <bugbunny> pranav: If you need specific how to dual boot, please ask
[06:07] <pranav> already joined and done!
[06:07] <bugbunny> K
[06:07] <pranav> thanks
[06:08] <bugbunny> MarchHare: I like to help
[06:08] <MarchHare> A net split. I haven
[06:08] <bugbunny> MarchHare: And I was reading
[06:08] <MarchHare> t seen one of those in a long time
[06:19] <bugbunny> MarchHare: How did it work out?
[06:20] <MarchHare> bugbunny: Not yet.  I'll come back to it later or something
[06:27] <bugbunny> MarchHare: Okay
[06:39] <pranav> ubuntu 18.04 is the best so far :) its so responsive.
[06:40] <rauno> hey
[06:40] <rauno> any tips how to debug why my usb 2.0 port isnt working, two 3.0 work just fine..
[06:42] <bugzbunny> pranav: Linux overall is very good
[06:42] <bugzbunny> rauno: If it's hardware failure, it would be difficult besides diagnosing the board itself
[06:43] <bugzbunny> rauno: The connector, cable, the controller...
[06:43] <rauno> okay, and how to make sure if it's hardware related ?
[06:43] <rauno> im on laptop
[06:43] <bugzbunny> rauno: Have it ever work?
[06:43] <rauno> yep, but not sure when, havent used it for a long time
[06:44] <bugzbunny> rauno: Well, is the port dusty?
[06:44] <pranav> rauno: dmesg in terminal
[06:44] <rauno> dmesg doesnt show annything when i connect wireless mouse adapter there
[06:44] <pranav> rauno: try another mouse adapter
[06:45] <bugzbunny> Okay, that's very liekly a bad port
[06:45] <pranav> yes
[06:45] <rauno> crap :D
[06:45] <bugzbunny> rauno: You can try cleaning it, how old is the laptop?
[06:45] <golovin> Всем привет)
[06:45] <rauno> thought same, but hoped maybe there's some kind of hope :)
[06:45] <rauno> i think 3-4 years heavy usage :)
[06:46] <golovin> Hi all. Tell me please software look like Media Get for Ubuntu
[06:46] <bugzbunny> rauno: Sometimes removing and inserting peripherals can damage the joins that attach to motherboard
[06:46] <bugzbunny> The pin between connectors can get lose
[06:46] <rauno> yeah, i know it from usb3, but haven't used much this 2.0
[06:46] <bugzbunny> You can try windows, dows Windows detect it?
[06:47] <rauno> so one idea would be to tear it apart and check the connections
[06:47] <bugzbunny> s/dows/does/
[06:47] <rauno> will try windows later
[06:47] <golovin> you can't help me
[06:47] <golovin> ?
[06:49] <OhPie> Sup all.  So I installed VirtualBox, slapped on Unbuntu's latest.  Looks neat.  I'm new at this.  Any key suggestions of some activiites I can do on this thing that will help me learn more about linux Ubuntu.  I figured I'd ask here first.
[06:49] <OhPie> I'm going through some of the man pages now.
[06:50] <bugzbunny> Not sure of the question? If you want to learn how to USE linux overall, there is TONS of blogs
[06:50] <bugzbunny> OhPie: Typically, what specific problem are you having and you need help with?
[06:51] <bugzbunny> There is a Ubuntu Guideline thing, that I don't know ! is\
[06:51] <bugzbunny> !guideline
[06:51] <OhPie> No problem per se.  Just thought I'd get a list of key things you experts would recommend that I try out first.  Naturally I'll go onto the web and read the blogs and such.  That's all.
[06:54] <bugzbunny> OhPie: Well, we are volunteers and typical users just like your self
[06:54] <OhPie> undersood, I'll hit the web up, thanks.
[06:54] <bugzbunny> OhPie: I personally use UbuntuBugie, it works well, I don't have a particular list of things a new user should do
[06:55] <bugzbunny> I think, what's missing, you want?
[06:55] <bugzbunny> For the most part, I find program, not perfect, work well enough for me
[07:08] <linurandy> hello to everyone when ubuntu is going to up?
[07:08] <linurandy> out
[07:10] <Ben64> linurandy: ?
[07:10] <linurandy> when the new Ubuntu LTS is going o be out?
[07:12] <Ben64> April 26th
[07:20] <shivam_> hi
[07:21] <shivam_> I'm actually new to ubuntu
[07:21] <shivam_> i just wanted to know how to create a seperate chatroom
[07:21] <shivam_> for me and my friend
[07:23] <bugzbunny> shivam_: On #freenode?
[07:23] <bugzbunny> shivam_: /join #freenode
[07:23] <shivam_> ok
[07:44] <NoCode> Issues with installing 4.16 mainline kernel in Ubuntu Budgie. :/
[07:45] <bugzbunny> NoCode: Only issues is perhaps missing syscall
[07:46] <bugzbunny> NoCode: Besides that, there shouldn't be any diffierence, that is impactful than Kernel version 2 - 4
[07:46] <NoCode> https://pastebin.ca/4010307
[07:46] <bugzbunny> That's a package management issue
[07:47] <bugzbunny> NoCode: You left out the command line
[07:48] <bugzbunny> NoCode: Posting just the error is not very useful than what you did before hand to get the error
[07:48] <NoCode> Tried to install both the headers, and image. I put them in a folder, "sudo dpkg -i *.deb".
[07:48] <bugzbunny> So, you trying to install kernel from files you downloaded?
[07:49] <NoCode> Yes.
[07:49] <bugzbunny> I am sorry, I won't support helping you with that
[07:49] <bugzbunny> What's wrong with the Kernel you already have?
[07:49] <NoCode> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.16/
[07:50] <NoCode> I'm on 4.13. Wanted newer.
[07:50] <bugzbunny> I won't help put your system at risk, if you downloaded from there, I don't support it.. Because it bypass checks
[07:51] <bugzbunny> NoCode: You just want a new kernel for the sake of having a newer kernel? Try ArchLInux then
[07:52] <NoCode> Ok. lol
[07:59] <ducasse> NoCode: that's not really a good reason to install an unsupported kernel
[08:24] <s10gopal> how to disable "hwclock --systohc" during shutdown ?
[08:27] <bugzbunny> s10gopal: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:28] <s10gopal> bugzbunny, ubuntu 14.04
[08:32] <matrix> buongiorno
[08:33] <bugzbunny> s10gopal: I can't help, I am just guessing, upstart
[08:33] <cYmen> Does info about failed cron jobs get stored anywhere?
[08:33] <bugzbunny> cYmen: /var/log
[08:33] <guiverc> s10gopal: i have no idea; maybe /etc/default/hwclock  (it overrides some settings found in hwclock.sh
[08:34] <cYmen> bugzbunny: uhm...where exactly? :)
[08:34] <cYmen> I can't find anything.
[08:35] <s10gopal> a user on ##linux is helping me . thx
[08:35] <bugzbunny> cYmen: Is this a Server?
[08:35] <cYmen> bugzbunny: no, my notebook
[08:36] <bugzbunny> cYmen: `What are you running as Cron? btw, you need a Cron deamon?
[08:37] <cYmen> I'm just running a random script of mine. Usually works too but when it fails I get no info whatsoever.
[08:38] <cYmen> bugzbunny: Is there something else I should be using on a desktop machine?
[08:38] <cYmen> or user machine or whatever :r
[08:38] <cYmen> :)
[08:39] <bugzbunny> You need to be running a Cron deamon, for Cron jobs to work
[08:39] <cYmen> Yes, I am running anacron.
[08:39] <bugzbunny> ahh
[08:40] <bugzbunny> I've used anacron before, but it's been awhile, what is the problem exactly?
[08:40] <cYmen> Well, I think I've figured that out now.
[08:40] <bugzbunny> For my cron jobs, I have it E-Mail it
[08:40] <cYmen> It cannot tell me about failing cronjobs because there is no MTA installed.
[08:40] <bugzbunny> But if you ask me how I did that, years ago
[08:40] <cYmen> Now I'm trying to figure out if I can redirect that to a log somehow.
[08:41] <bugzbunny> Well, AFAIK, correct me if I am wrong, you won't see failurs
[08:41] <bugzbunny> You need the program to output a failure
[08:42] <bugzbunny> AFAIK, my experience with cron, I never got anything when a program fail, without some output
[08:44] <ducasse> cYmen: which release is this?
[08:44] <cYmen> ducasse: of what?
[08:45] <bugzbunny> What version of Ubuntu
[08:45] <ducasse> cYmen: of the os
[08:45] <cYmen> why would that matter? :)
[08:45] <bugzbunny> Do you need help?
[08:45] <bugzbunny> Please do not be osbtacle
[08:45] <ducasse> it does matter, if you want answers
[08:46] <cYmen> This is a 17.10.
[08:47] <ducasse> then try 'journalctl -u cron.service'
[08:49] <ducasse> the answer would be different if you were on 14.04, which is why release matters
[08:49] <cYmen> Ah, yeah, I already did that, that's how I figured out that it is trying to send me e-mails.
[08:50] <cYmen> And apparently that cannot be changed and one has to add redirects to the cron lines.
[09:00] <seanh> Woke my computer from suspend this morning and saw the login screen - I had been logged out, and all my apps closed, apparently while the computer was suspended? Can anyone help me get to the bottom of what might have happened here? Tried looking in some log files (e.g. in Gnome Logs) but not seeing any obvious messages about a crash or anything
[09:02] <EriC^> seanh: maybe xorg or something segfaulted
[09:03] <EriC^> seanh: try cat ~/.xsession-errors and sudo grep -iE "error|segfault" /var/log/kern.log
[09:04] <seanh> EriC^: Thanks. No ~/.xsession-errors file.  In kern.log I see this:
[09:04] <seanh> Apr  3 09:54:27 chamlis kernel: [852749.687717] [drm:intel_display_resume [i915]] *ERROR* Restoring old state failed with -22
[09:04] <bugzbunny> seanh: Please bastebin the logs
[09:04] <seanh> That's at about the time I turned on the computer this morning
[09:05] <bugzbunny> seanh: Has it ever work?
[09:05] <seanh> bugzbunny: All of kern.log?
[09:05] <seanh> bugzbunny: It usually works yes
[09:05] <bugzbunny> seanh: When does stop working?
[09:07] <seanh> Here's kern.log: https://pastebin.com/DgfXRuu7
[09:07] <bugzbunny> seanh: So it always worked and it just stopped working?
[09:07] <bugzbunny> seanh: Or it never worked?
[09:08] <seanh> bugzbunny: Well, I think I've seen this incident a couple of times: When I return to my computer the next day after suspending it over night, it wakes from suspend and it has logged me out. Its pretty rare, it happens maybe once every few weeks. The rest of the time waking from suspend works fine.
[09:08] <bugzbunny> seanh: That's not a clue what happened, so, it worked then stopped working?
[09:09] <seanh> Most of the time when I suspend the computer and then wake it from suspend it works. Occasionally I find that I've been logged out
[09:10] <bugzbunny> K
[09:10] <seanh> For example when I woke it from suspend this morning I found that I was logged out. But just now I suspended it for a minute and woke it again - it was fine
[09:10] <bugzbunny> seanh: No idea bud, so it sometimes works and sometimes work
[09:11] <bugzbunny> That's, Linux
[09:11] <bugzbunny> seanh: Now, what's useful, what hardware
[09:12] <bugzbunny> seanh: The more information you give, the more helpful please
[09:12] <seanh> I'm not sure the issue is with suspend and wake as such. I've seen it do things while it's on and I'm using the computer: it suddenly logs me out, or freezes. It doesn't happen all the time, it happens pretty rarely actually, less than once per week. Has been happening much less often since I switched from Gnome to Openbox too
[09:12] <seanh> Here's a pastebin of the lshw command: https://pastebin.com/fGkhzDuW
[09:12] <bugzbunny> it suddenly logs  me out
[09:13] <bugzbunny> I think Display Manager sigfault
[09:13] <bugzbunny> I just think..
[09:13] <seanh> It does seem like the sort of thing that could be a display manager issue
[09:14] <seanh> I tried Gnome both with Wayland and with X and it had this problem with both. Now using Openbox and the problem seems _much_ rarer but not completely gone. For example this morning: wake from suspend and I'm logged out. WTF? And the things is I've _never_ found a clue in any log file or anything, after one of these crashes
[09:17] <bugzbunny> seanh: Use what works?
[09:19] <seanh> Is there an easy way for me to find out whether the computer rebooted overnight?
[09:19] <tomreyn> "uptime"
[09:19] <tomreyn> or just "w"
[09:19] <seanh> Ok, uptime says 29 days so I guess it didn't reboot, just logged me out
[09:19] <silver_hook> Is there a (good) native client for chat.google.com available in Ubuntu?
[09:21] <tomreyn> seanh: i think so. it would be normal for it to suspend after a while of not being used, and to ask for your password when you return.
[09:22] <seanh> tomreyn: No, it's not that it locked the screen and asked for my password. It logged me out: desktop session ended, all apps closed. It looks as if something (the display manager, the desktop, ...?) crashed. But I'm just trying to find a clue as to what happened
[09:24] <tomreyn> silver_hook: there is yakyak https://github.com/yakyak/yakyak/releases
[09:25] <tomreyn> silver_hook: it is probably too new to have made it into ubuntu, though.
[09:25] <silver_hook> tomreyn: That’s what I noticed as well. There’s also Rambox, but that’s just an Electron wrapper.
[09:26] <tomreyn> seanh: oh, got you wrong there. check "dmesg -T" and /var/log/Xorg.*.log then
[09:27] <bugzbunny> I understand the problem
[09:27] <bugzbunny> What should be stored in memory
[09:27] <seanh> tomreyn bugzbunny There's a "Fatal server error" from gdm-x-session in /var/log/syslog.1 while it was waking from suspend
[09:27] <bugzbunny> And when you resume, you got a fresh screen
[09:27] <bugzbunny> I understand
[09:28] <bugzbunny> Well, if you understand how suspend and resume work
[09:28] <tomreyn> seanh: which ubuntu release is this?
[09:29] <quint> So I just replaced the TLS certificate on my webdav server, and verified it to be valid using 3 web browsers. Thunar complains that the certificate is not valid.
[09:29] <seanh> Here's a section of syslog.1 where "fatal server error" occurs: https://pastebin.com/ccS5pwSi
[09:29] <seanh> tomreyn: It's 17.10
[09:30] <rosco> kernel <IP_ADDRESS> totally hangs my ubuntu 16.04 lts desktop.
[09:31] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I don't use laptops
[09:31] <bugzbunny> seanh: I have NO idea
[09:31] <rosco> it's a bit scary, I'm in the process of migrating my desktops from fedora to ubuntu, but so far fedora is more stable. I expected the opposite.
[09:32] <tomreyn> seanh: if the syslog you posted to https://pastebin.com/DgfXRuu7  is correct then your system also shutoff unexpectedly at or around Apr  2 12:01:12 (your system time zone)
[09:33] <Ak1ra> Hi, I want to install Burst wallet, the url is this: https://www.burst-coin.org/download-wallet  which leads to   http://package.cryptoguru.org/  is there is any way to check that there is no malware in these packages? Thank you!
[09:33] <seanh> tomreyn: I don't recall anything failing at that time
[09:33] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: Why do you want to install it?
[09:34] <Ak1ra> to have a local wallet and mine the coin in my computer
[09:34] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: Figures
[09:35] <seanh> tomreyn: The root partition ran out of disk space yesterday, that may be what the errors at around noon are from. It gave me some full partition errors but didn't crash. I freed up some space yesterday so it's not full anymore.
[09:35] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: Just install it, what is the problem exactly?
[09:35] <tomreyn> seanh: ah, okay. it's usually a good idea to reboot if htis happens (after recovering disk space).
[09:35] <Ak1ra> bugzbunny I want to check for malware before do it. It looks a mature project but anyway it needs root permission
[09:36] <tomreyn> seanh: i assume this explains the ecryptfs errors as well
[09:36] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: I am sorry, this is not Ubuntu problem
[09:36] <seanh> tomreyn: I would guess so yes
[09:37] <tomreyn> seanh: it doesn't immediately explain why X crashed, but apport will have catched this happening and probably already submitted a bug report for you.
[09:37] <Netmage> Does anyone know a picture image viewer that shows only images I selected before and not the whole images in the directory ?
[09:37] <seanh> tomreyn: Would there be an apport log file somewhere where I can see what it caught?
[09:37] <Ak1ra> bugzbunny So there is no way to check a package for viruses before install?
[09:38] <Netmage> When I select 100 pictures and open it with the default image viewer, ubuntu open 100 separate image viewer windows
[09:38] <seanh>  /var/log/apport.log is empty
[09:38] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: Reliable way, no
[09:38] <Ak1ra> bugzbunny Ok I will try windows version with wine which doesn't require root. Thank you! :)
[09:39] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: Look who developer the program
[09:39] <tomreyn> Ak1ra: noramlly, the best way is to review the source code, but this is often not an option. so, if you prefer nto to immediately trust the authors, you could just run it in a VM or container (such as lxd).
[09:39] <silver_hook> tomreyn: YakYak seems to only support legacy chat (not the newer groups), so that doesn’t work for me. Thanks anyway :)
[09:39] <Ak1ra> Ok I will check it, thank you! :)
[09:40] <tomreyn> silver_hook: oh, sorry then i don't know. :-/
[09:40] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: This is the begining
[09:40] <silver_hook> tomreyn: No problem. Thanks for your help regardless :)
[09:40] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: You need to do you own research
[09:40] <tomreyn> seanh: /var/log/apport.log
[09:41] <seanh> tomreyn: that file is empty unfortunately
[09:41] <Ak1ra> bugzbunny It looks a mature project, several years old crypto, it exists in exchanges ... but not so popular to trust it like Bitcoin Core :)
[09:41] <tomreyn> seanh: probably because your disk ran full ;-)
[09:41] <seanh> By the time I suspended it last night, the disk was no longer full, though
[09:42] <seanh> But okay, I think I'm just gonna forget about this one, and will try to investigate again the next time it crashes
[09:42] <tomreyn> seanh: if you'd liek to prevent such situations in the future, have /home on a separate file system (and maybe /var as well)
[09:42] <bugzbunny> Ak1ra: USE it at you own risk
[09:42] <hanabishi> Hello everyone
[09:43] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: You are misspelling
[09:43] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: You angry\
[09:43] <tomreyn> bugzbunny: i'm doing fine, thanks.
[09:43] <bugzbunny> Oh
[09:43] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: what is liek?
[09:44] <tomreyn> bugzbunny: that's me misspelling "like"
[09:44] <bugzbunny> I am not a grammar person
[09:44] <bugzbunny> I just saw that
[09:44] <bugzbunny> Kinda
[09:45] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: You in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:45] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I want to ask you a question?
[09:46] <tomreyn> bugzbunny: i am. the easiest way to find out would have been to join the channel and check who's there. ;-)
[09:49] <tomreyn> Netmage: maybe shotwell does what you're looking for
[10:10] <bipul> Hello, I am unable to install Postgresql, on my Ubuntu. I am getting this message https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5bQZ8vwDdH/
[10:12] <newtolinux> hello, is it a bad idea to chown my www dir to my primary dev account? (i have the root account locked down and primarly use the dev account)
[10:13] <tomreyn> bipul: hi. which ubuntu release is this (lsb_release -ds), what's the output of: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:14] <tomreyn> newtolinux: it may be a better idea to add your dev account to the www group.
[10:14] <bipul> tomreyn, Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[10:14] <newtolinux> how would I do that?
[10:15] <bipul> tomreyn, Please find the data https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QG56TJdpJv/
[10:16] <bugzbunny> What?
[10:16] <ikonia> !info postgresql
[10:17] <ikonia> !info postgresql xenial
[10:17] <tomreyn> bipul: have you stored postgresql databases on this system or made any postgresql configuration changes, yet?
[10:17] <ikonia> bipul: where did you get 9.6 for 16.04
[10:17] <ikonia> !info postgresql-9.5 xenial
[10:17] <ikonia> !info postgresql-9.6 xenial
[10:18] <tomreyn> newtolinux: sudo adduser developeraccount www
[10:18] <newtolinux> thank you tomreyn, do i have to do this from root or can i just sudo it from the dev account?
[10:19] <bugzbunny> newtolinux: Do know the User system work
[10:19] <bugzbunny> ?
[10:19] <tomreyn> newtolinux: i suspect your use case is that you have a (humans') user account, the "developer account" which does several things on this computer, and one of them is that it places files in locations the webserver will make accessible via https(s)?
[10:19] <bugzbunny> newtolinux: You know that root has UID 0?
[10:20] <newtolinux> pretty much yes
[10:20] <newtolinux> @ tomreyn:
[10:20] <tomreyn> newtolinux: whom are you responding to there?
[10:20] <tomreyn> thanks :)
[10:21] <bipul> ikonia, At Ubuntu 16.04.2 repository.
[10:21] <tomreyn> newtolinux: do you run web application son the web server? do you have it run as differen tuser accounts?
[10:21] <tomreyn> *web applications_on*
[10:22] <newtolinux> tomreyn: there is no applications as of yet, i simply want to be able to access my www dir as i want
[10:22] <newtolinux> windowsrefugee btw hehe
[10:22] <bipul> tomreyn, I was just trying to install postgresql via "sudo apt-get install postgresql postgresql-contrib" And found database was not found.
[10:22] <usuario> hi
[10:23] <bipul> Also it was throwing an error message while installing, which i had share with you in link.
[10:24] <bugzbunny> newtolinux: what web software are you using?
[10:24] <newtolinux> bugzbunny: sorry, what do you mean when you say web software
[10:25] <tomreyn> newtolinux: you did not hide this well enough. ;-) what currently feels annoying, the user / group restrictions, actually are an integral part of the linux user space security model, and it's unfortunately mandatory to understand it well to be able to make wise choices and not expose the entire contents of your server (including passwords etc.) to the wrold. so i recommend studying it a little.
[10:25] <tomreyn> newtolinux: back to your original question: i assume your developer account has the permission to run "sudo". if so, the 'adduser' command i provided above will suffice to make the change.
[10:25] <bugzbunny> 06:21 < tomreyn> newtolinux: do you run web application son the web server? do you have it run as differen tuser accounts?
[10:26] <R13ose> Hi
[10:26] <tomreyn> bipul: can you show the output of these commands, please: sudo apt update; apt-cache policy
[10:27] <newtolinux> tomreyn: i do understand that, i mainly do work with security sensitive information on the windows side so it's not foreign but making the transition it takes time to understand the depth of how linux does things
[10:27] <bugzbunny> newtolinux: We want to help
[10:27] <bugzbunny> newtolinux: We not enemies
[10:28] <bugzbunny> newtolinux: The more information you give
[10:28] <bugzbunny> The better we can help
[10:28] <newtolinux> tomreyn: yeah, it has sudo :)
[10:28] <tomreyn> newtolinux: of course, this will take a while. and besides reading up on it, training is the best way to learn indeed.
[10:28] <newtolinux> bugzbunny: sorry you have me confused, i think there's a language barrier here
[10:28] <bugzbunny> I was reading
[10:29] <bugzbunny> You are being bit asshole
[10:29] <newtolinux> eh?
[10:29] <bugzbunny> Yes, you were, I was reading
[10:29] <tomreyn> bugzbunny: i don't think so, also please mind those words.
[10:29] <bugzbunny> But I think we try to help each other
[10:29] <bipul> tomreyn, Yes, but could i know what you wants to see in policy?
[10:30] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: Difference of opinion
[10:30] <tomreyn> bipul: i'm trying to understand which software you use.
[10:30] <newtolinux> bugzbunny: please enlighten me on how i was a bit of an asshole?
[10:31] <shivam_> hi guys
[10:31] <newtolinux> tomreyn: thanks for the help, by the way
[10:31] <bipul> Okay, And what about the output of this sudo dpkg --configure -a ? which was here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QG56TJdpJv/ Do i know what you were looking inside it?
[10:31] <shivam_> had a small doubt
[10:32] <shivam_> how do you create a seperate chatroom for a person with a differnt IP on a different network
[10:33] <Younder> What is the release date for Ubuntu 18.04?
[10:33] <tomreyn> newtolinux: welcome. maybe have a look at this for starters https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[10:33] <newtolinux> tomreyn: since you are more versed, what do you suggest to read upon besides user groups? i've covered the basics with password disabled groups, ssh keys and fail2ban yada yada
[10:33] <bipul> tomreyn, Please find it here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W9wNHwCChT/
[10:34] <shivam_> hey can anybody help
[10:34] <newtolinux> thanks, got that covered too :)
[10:34] <shivam_>  how do you create a seperate chatroom for a person with a differnt IP on a different network
[10:34] <newtolinux> well, atleast in theory i do, lmao
[10:35] <tomreyn> newtolinux: try to restrict ssh to just key authentication, disabling password authentication, then you basically dont need fail2ban since brute forcing accounts is much less of an issue.
[10:35] <newtolinux> tomreyn: done that too, changed the ports of ssh as well
[10:35] <albrecht> newtolinux: one book I might suggest is the Debian Administrators Handbook (it's not Ubuntu, but Ubuntu is based off Debian) - You can find it for free online
[10:36] <guiverc> shivam_, i don't see a Ubuntu support question in what you ask, maybe #freenode is more appropriate for your question
[10:36] <tomreyn> newtolinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/security.html
[10:36] <shivam_> ok thanks guiverc
[10:36] <newtolinux> tomreyn: thanks, that looks juicy
[10:36] <tomreyn> newtolinux: i'd second albrecht there, too
[10:37] <newtolinux> albrecht: i'll have a look, thanks too
[10:38] <tomreyn> bipul: okay, this looks fine. i suggest we try to purge postgresql, then solve the existing dpkg configuration issues and then you install all the pending updates and security fixes.
[10:38] <bipul> tomreyn, You mean i should reinstall Postgresql?
[10:39] <tomreyn> bipul: you are two minor releases behind on security patches, currently ubuntu 16.04 is at 16.04.4
[10:39] <bipul> Okay, then i guess i need to update one more time.
[10:40] <tomreyn> bipul: i'll try to guide you: sudo dpkg --purge postgresql-9.5 postgresql-common
[10:40] <albrecht> bipul: you need to purge postgresql and fix your dependency issues first
[10:40] <bipul> tomreyn, Thank you. Now i understood where is the problem.
[10:40] <newtolinux> hmm it appears that I do not have a www group
[10:40] <tomreyn> newtolinux: www-data usually
[10:41] <tomreyn> newtolinux: this is what a webserver usually runs as (after dropping permissions)
[10:41] <newtolinux> isn't var/www/ usually set to www by default
[10:41] <bipul> albrecht, Dependency issue of Postgresql ?
[10:41] <tomreyn> newtolinux: not on debian derivatives (such as ubuntu), there it's www-data by default
[10:42] <newtolinux> so it would be sudo adduser devacc www-data?
[10:42] <tomreyn> bipul: i think albrecht is referring to https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QG56TJdpJv/ where configurations fail to be applied, causing other packes not to configure (and thus install) properly
[10:42] <tomreyn> newtolinux: correct
[10:42] <bipul> s/update/upgrade
[10:42] <newtolinux> looking at the directory group of my www it's set to root[0] as group
[10:43] <newtolinux> that's what has me confused now
[10:43] <tomreyn> newtolinux: hmm actually you're right and i'm wrong.
[10:44] <bipul> tomreyn, Do you mind to share which package is making obstacle for other package to get install?
[10:45] <newtolinux> on ubuntu, the command 'groups' lists all the existing groups? correct?
[10:46] <newtolinux> or is that only the ones existing for the specific account that executed the cmd
[10:46] <tomreyn> newtolinux: yes, "groups" lists all groups the executing user is part of.
[10:46] <newtolinux> doesn't seem like www is a group
[10:46] <newtolinux> or www-data
[10:47] <tomreyn> newtolinux: you can provide another user as an argument, e.g. "groups www-data"
[10:47] <tomreyn> newtolinux: do you have a webserver installed already?
[10:47] <newtolinux> yeah, running apache2
[10:47] <tomreyn> hmm i eexpected this to provide the www-data user.
[10:47] <newtolinux> afaik it should
[10:47] <tomreyn> getent groups | grep www
[10:48] <tomreyn> getent group | grep www
[10:48] <tomreyn> ^ typo fixed
[10:48] <newtolinux> www-data:x:33:
[10:48] <newtolinux> does exist
[10:48] <tomreyn> so this gourp does exist
[10:48] <tomreyn> *group
[10:48] <newtolinux> weird that root would not be assigned to it
[10:49] <tomreyn> not at all. root is only part of the root group, and it should remain this way.
[10:49] <newtolinux> or perhaps root will just list root, as it's superior
[10:49] <newtolinux> gotcha
[10:50] <tomreyn> usually you also don't add other users to the "root" group
[10:50] <tomreyn> you want to have a proper seperation between this superior user and less powerful users, thats why
[10:50] <newtolinux> yeah, i think i just misunderstood it
[10:51] <newtolinux> i tought it would list all additional groups outside of root
[10:51] <bipul> !info sysstat
[10:51] <tomreyn> "it" being?
[10:52] <newtolinux> when you ran groups cmd, i tought it would list additional groups beside root
[10:52] <newtolinux> ex root, www-data, foobar
[10:53] <tomreyn> bipul: the root cause seems to be "post-installation script returned error exit status 10" for packages sysstat and postgresql-common
[10:53] <bipul> Yes, i think the problem is here status half-configured sysstat:amd64 11.2.0-1ubuntu0.
[10:55] <tomreyn> bipul: do you mind loosing the existing systat history? if not: sudo dpkg --purge sysstat; sudo dpkg --configure  -a; sudo apt -f install
[10:55] <tomreyn> newtolinux: oh okay. no it does not.
[10:55] <bipul> Nah, i don't mind. Since it's not a production server.
[10:55] <tomreyn> newtolinux: just those of the current user.
[10:55] <tomreyn> newtolinux: are you into man pages, yet?
[10:56] <tomreyn> bipul: alright, then give those commands a try, and please post their output
[10:57] <newtolinux> tomreyn: have a few tabs open or do you mean in the terminal? also still struggling with permissions even after adding it to www-data
[10:57] <tomreyn> newtolinux: in the temrinal
[10:57] <tomreyn> newtolinux: about the permissions struggle, can you tell more about what you'Re trying to achieve?
[10:59] <newtolinux> tomreyn: not sure if it tells you much but to simplify my work i'm using winscp on the windows side, however i'm not able to do anything with the www dir, i'm thinking it's either a group issue or simply because i have to enforce sudo on the winscp commands somehow
[10:59] <tomreyn> newtolinux: a common use case is to have a users' files automatically exposed to the web. you could create a subdirectory /home/devuser/web and have this setup as a directory the webserver can access.
[11:00] <Guest14727> How can I hide traditional .deb packages from 18.04 gnome software center and see only flatpak?
[11:00] <tomreyn> newtolinux: you should probbaly try to keep the files in the users' directory (and have them read yb the webserver from there) and just ignore /var/www then
[11:00] <tomreyn> newtolinux: that'S unless the plan is to work on these files with multiple users?
[11:01] <igrom> Hi #ubuntu. I have a xorg.conf/libinput/libwacom problem - am ignorant enough not to be able to scope it down. (cont.)
[11:01] <newtolinux> tomreyn: as it looks right now for educational purpose it follows as var/www/html/example.com/public_html/
[11:02] <newtolinux> if i understand you right that's what you mean with a a non root www configuration
[11:04] <igrom> I have an HP Spectre X360, which has a touchscreen and an alloted stylus (see [1]). I have recently begun to use the stylus. The movement is tracked perfectly when the pen touches the screen, but when hovering, there is a 5mm dead zone around the cursor. If I move the pen within it, the cursor won't budge. [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gkRgGZJ3Kb/
[11:04] <newtolinux> example.com being a vhost but i think you know that
[11:05] <tomreyn> newtolinux: you can use this directory structure. but if you'll be the only web developer pushing updates to this system your life will be easier if you just reconfigure the webserver in terms of adding a new virtualhost with a document root pointing to a subdirectory of your home directory. i .e. DocumentRoot /home/devuser/web
[11:05] <igrom> I am trying to make X load the wacom driver for the pen by fiddling with xorg.conf
[11:05] <igrom> according to this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/comments/3mu28a/sp3_pen_tip_button_working/
[11:05] <igrom> it's for a different pen/laptop, but another resource reported that it works for what I have.
[11:05] <tomreyn> newtolinux: or "DocumentRoot /home/devuser/html/example.com/public_html" if you prefer
[11:06] <igrom> Now, I have the following files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TWbc2zrSwK/
[11:06] <igrom> 39-wacom.conf was 70.wacom before. I moved it.
[11:07] <newtolinux> tomreyn: to change this, do i simply point the vhost to said directory?
[11:07] <igrom> Contents of 39-wacom.conf [1] and 40-libinput.conf [2]. [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4gZcpMfwgW/ [2] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wQD7WpGj3J/
[11:08] <igrom> My first question is: is /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf the right place to make my changes to xorg.conf?
[11:08] <tomreyn> newtolinux: this way, you'll only need to upload files to that directory and they'll already be owned by your devuser. you can then make those files either world readable, so by anyone on the system, or, better, group readable and ensure the webserver can access these files (by adding ot to your devuiser gruop)
[11:08] <tomreyn> newtolinux: you'd porint the DocumentRoot of the vhriotualhost to this directory, yes.
[11:09] <tomreyn> vhriotualhost -> VirtualHost
[11:09] <bipul> tomreyn, please find it. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8kM488m6qD/ I think i need to learn how to handle repository.
[11:09] <tomreyn> typo mayhem
[11:09] <newtolinux> tomreyn: seems simple enough, would save some headache
[11:09] <newtolinux> lol
[11:09] <bipul> Specially APT repository.
[11:09] <newtolinux> tomreyn: i'll get on it, thanks a heap for your help
[11:10] <tomreyn> bipul: that'S the output of the last command i recommended to run only. did you run the other ones as well?
[11:12] <tomreyn> newtolinux: welcome. and don't forget to undo the group memebership of devuser in www-data if you'll take the approach we last discussed. to remove devuser off the www-data group, you'd do: sudo deluser devuser www-data
[11:13] <bipul> yes.
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:14] <tomreyn> newtolinux: oh and what i emant to say about man pages: install the "man-db" package (sudo apt update; sudo apt install man-db), then you can run "man group" (quit by pressing 'q') or man anything to get help on commands.
[11:14] <tomreyn> bipul: can you show their output, too, then? you can run them again, if needed.
[11:16] <bipul> I am sorry i have closed the terminal. Also after that i try to reinstall sysstat package
[11:16] <newtolinux> tomreyn: thanks
[11:17] <bipul> If you wants me to do it again, then i can go for it.
[11:17] <vadi> I'm planning to move an encrypted SSD from one laptop to another - would the hardware change matter to the encryption? Will the same password I use now work?
[11:19] <tomreyn> bipul: only if you want me to help you solve the problem
[11:20] <bipul> Then let me do it again.
[11:20] <tomreyn> vadi: encrypted how?
[11:21] <Guest34025> join #sex
[11:22] <Guest34025> hi
[11:23] <tomreyn> vadi: there are drive layer  (hardware / firmware), block device layer (such as dmcrypt-LUKS) and file system layer (such as ecryptfs, zfs, ext4) encryptions.
[11:23] <bipul> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VgVnFCS3x2/ Please find the link.
[11:24] <bugzbunny> newtolinux: I had computer issue
[11:24]  * bugzbunny is reading
[11:24] <vadi> tomreyn: I have no idea. I setup encryption when installing Ubuntu, so whatever that uses
[11:28] <tomreyn> bipul: okay, moving further: sudo dpkg --purge unattended-upgrades postgresql-9.5 postgresql-contrib-9.5 postgresql-contrib postgresql
[11:29] <bipul> What this command is for? and what will it do?
[11:29] <tomreyn> vadi: it offers both full disk encryption using dm-crypt-luks (which then also requires you to use lvm) as well as home directory encryption ("encrypt my home directory") using ecryptfs.
[11:30] <bipul> And i see the next problem is with grub-pc
[11:30] <rmoore> Are there any Ubuntu apps for remotely running security sweeps on networked machines?
[11:30] <tomreyn> bipul: you currently have packages which are not properly installed, breaking apt and thus any further package installations and removals using apt. these commands try to delete the packages with broken configurations in an attempt to restore apt functionality.
[11:31] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I have a smile in my face
[11:31]  * bugzbunny steps out
[11:31] <tomreyn> bipul: correct, grub-pc is also listed. i chose not to recommend to purge grub-pc just yet since it would make your computer unbootable.
[11:32] <bipul> tomreyn, exactly, from sysstat now it becomes grub-pc
[11:32] <francisv> Hello.  I need to re-order and delete some pages in PDF files.  Neither Evince nor Okular has such functionality.  Preview in macOS has this functionality.  Can someone here recommend me a PDF reader with such functionality?  Thank you.
[11:33] <bipul> Which is the matter concern, anyway after executing your given command, i got this dpkg: error processing package postgresql-9.5 (--purge):
[11:34] <tomreyn> bipul: i will need the entire output if you'd like more assistence with this matter.
[11:34] <tomreyn> bipul: the matter is that your ubuntu installation is currently effectively broken.
[11:35] <vadi> tomreyn: the home directory, I think.
[11:35] <tomreyn> you cannot install (or have installed) security updates, you cannot install or remove packages normally
[11:36] <bipul> tomreyn, here it's https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TyRMqgcFK9/
[11:37] <tomreyn> vadi: with both types of software encryption (those two you can choose form the ubuntu installer), your ability to decrypt the data will not be lost when moving the storage (SSD) to a different computer. you may need to apply configuration changes on the OS running on the destination system, however.
[11:38] <vadi> great, thanks
[11:39] <tomreyn> bipul: this system is in a very broken state, probably beyond repair. i recommend a reinstall.
[11:40] <Pinguin> remember to back up EVERYTHING before reinstall
[11:40] <bipul> tomreyn, Do you know the reason? what makes a system broken?
[11:41] <tomreyn> Pinguin: thanks for pointing this out, good point.
[11:41] <Pinguin> I recommend backing up the who /home directory as well as /etc for system configs
[11:41] <Pinguin> s/who/whole
[11:41] <bipul> Pinguin, And key as well.
[11:41] <bipul> :D
[11:42] <tomreyn> bipul: there are many possible reasons. usually, you would know that something went bad. some possible reasons: failed ubuntu upgrade (usually due to 3rd party software), broken disks and broken file systems.
[11:43] <bipul> tomreyn, Thank you very much.
[11:44] <tomreyn> bipul: welcome. will do you it?
[11:45] <bipul> Yes i can do.
[11:45] <tomreyn> bipul: i recommend you use the latest ubuntu 16.04 installer image.
[11:45] <tomreyn> 16.04.4
[11:46] <oneirosFade> Hello, all. Steam will start, and download/install games, but the games don't start. Trying them from console doesn't appear to provide anything enlightening.
[11:46] <tomreyn> (after backing up the data, of course).
[11:46] <igrom> I repeat my question. I have an issue with configuring a stylus on 17.10. I am using Wacom's driver. The pen's position is spot-on when applying pressure, but when hovering, there is a 5mm dead zone around the cursor. Moving the pen within it will not move the cursor. Can #ubuntu help me with this?
[11:47] <bipul> My internet connectivity is very slow. But let me try to download 16.04.4
[11:47] <bugzbunny> back
[11:47] <Pinguin> igrom: sounds like something configurable, have you checked the docs?
[11:47] <tomreyn> bipul: you can do it overnight. there are also torrents if you prefer.
[11:47] <Pinguin> bipul: I recommend downloading via the torrent
[11:50] <bugzbunny> igrom: No idea
[11:50] <bugzbunny> igrom: Have you gone to askubunut?
[11:53] <Lfour> I'm using XChat-gnome, how do I "connect" to " irc.sdf.org"?
[11:53] <igrom> Pinguin: I have waded through `man wacom`
[11:54] <igrom> bugzbunny: I have scoured the Internet for pointers. I haven't looked there explicitly. I'll try that.
[11:54] <ioria> Lfour, not on topic, but why don't you use hexchat or xchat (reborn on 17.10) ?
[11:55] <Lfour> Because I don't know how to connect to those.
[11:55] <tomreyn> !info pdfmod | francisv
[11:56] <ioria> Lfour, XChat -> Network List -> Add
[11:56] <bugzbunny> igrom: If I have a clue, I would help
[11:56] <bugzbunny> No idea
[11:57] <bugzbunny> igrom: let me read again
[11:58] <bugzbunny> 07:46 < igrom> I repeat my question. I have an issue with configuring a stylus on 17.10. I am using Wacom's driver. The pen's position is spot-on when  applying pressure, but when hovering, there is a 5mm dead zone around the cursor. Moving the pen within it will not move the cursor. Can  #ubuntu help me with this?
[11:59] <bugzbunny> Windows
[12:00] <tomreyn> ?
[12:01] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I am thinking touch screen, it's better at ms
[12:01] <tomreyn> i don't think this is the place to recommend installinf windows as a solution to issues.
[12:01] <bugzbunny> I agree
[12:02] <R13ose> My issue is annoying
[12:03] <tomreyn> R13ose: still the + character?
[12:03] <R13ose> tomreyn: I didn't test today but most likely
[12:03] <tomreyn> R13ose: so that's the issue that's annoying you, i assume?
[12:03] <R13ose> tomreyn: yep
[12:04] <tomreyn> i'm afraid i do not know what to do about it.
[12:04] <bugzbunny> What's the solution?
[12:05] <bugzbunny> Touch screen?
[12:05] <igrom> bugzbunny: I have searched for the most likely keywords on #askubuntu to no avail. I will later browse through all the questions.
[12:06] <ShishKabab> I've just installed Kubuntu 17.10 on my ASUS VivoBook Pro 15 N580VN and noticed my touchpad not working. It did work for a few seconds, but now it doesn't even show in xinput. Any way to debug this?
[12:06] <R13ose> tomreyn: have you seen tj around?
[12:06] <igrom> ShishKabab: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:06] <tomreyn> R13ose: try /whois, it may say when he was last active.
[12:07] <igrom> It's a shame, because the pen is ingenious, so is mypaint. It's only when I lift it up a bit does the lag. When I press again, there is an interpolation between the two positions and a superfluous line is added.
[12:07] <bugzbunny> igrom: If I use it.. I will help out
[12:07] <R13ose> tomreyn: I am not sure it can say if offline, right?
[12:07] <oneirosFade> Hello, all. Steam will start, and download/install games, but the games don't start. Trying them from console doesn't appear to provide anything enlightening. Any help would be appreciated.
[12:08] <bugzbunny> igrom: I would definitely share my experience
[12:08] <igrom> bugzbunny: I know, I know.
[12:09] <Pinguin> oneirosFade: post all logs
[12:09] <tomreyn> R13ose: not when offline no. use "/msg nickserv info <nickname>" then
[12:09] <Pinguin> :D
[12:11] <ShishKabab> igrom: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vpcmHfcnGh/
[12:12] <R13ose> tomreyn: says last seen 0 weeks ago
[12:12] <tomreyn> R13ose: that's not too long ago, so chances are he'll be on again soon, i guess. ;-)
[12:12] <oneirosFade> ...all logs of what?
[12:13] <R13ose> tomreyn: hahaha
[12:15] <tomreyn> R13ose: i'm afraid i know no more than you do (or the IRC network does) there. so just wait, and maybe configure your IRC client for a notice when he comes online.
[12:16] <R13ose> Ya!
[12:16] <fSharp> hello, my encrypted luks partition rejects my correct password. after having tried all sorts of things to find the reason and open it, I can only reduce it down to two causes; 1. clipboard pasted the password incomplete (I saw that it happened with pasted passwords on gedit) 2. gnome disks on ubuntu 17.10. errorenously created the encrypted partition. have you had such experiences with these?
[12:16] <francisv>  tomreyn: thanks for the suggestion.
[12:16] <ShishKabab> igrom: It did work for a bit at first, but not anymore. Also not on the LiveCD. Maybe worth mentioning that when it did work, it worked on and off.
[12:17] <ShishKabab> It does work in the BIOS though.
[12:17] <tomreyn> ShishKabab: there's nothing special on this log. I don't have experience with touchpad debugging but there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad in case it helps
[12:17] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: :)
[12:18] <tomreyn> francisv: welcome ;-)
[12:18] <igrom> bugzbunny: https://i.imgur.com/w1nz1El.jpg
[12:18] <ShishKabab> tomreyn: Just came across the touchpad detection debugging. Doesn't even show up in the /proc/bus/input/devices , so it must be something serious.
[12:18] <bugzbunny> I am sorry, I can't help you igrom
[12:19] <tomreyn> fSharp: i don't understand what you mean by "gnome disks on ubuntu 17.10. errorenously created the encrypted partition"
[12:19] <bugzbunny> I don't have knowledge to help
[12:19] <ioria> ShishKabab, maybe it wont solve the issue, but i'd start upgrading the system ; sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade and reboot
[12:19] <igrom> I know, that's why I left you a note there.
[12:19] <hanzo> alo2
[12:20] <fSharp> tomreyn, I mean just what I've written
[12:20] <bugzbunny> igrom: I hope you stop
[12:20] <tomreyn> fSharp: i'm not aware of a general issue with full disk encryption in 17.10, but i'm not aware of that much ;-) did you try a web search to see whether it's a generic issue?
[12:22] <bugzbunny> I was reading but I feel like igrom is monitoring me?
[12:22] <tomreyn> ShishKabab: i'm not sure whether this connects to the usb, but you could try for yourself whether it's listed there: lsusb; and if it is, you can run lsusb -vv to get more information on its signalling and power supply/draw. (there may be a page on usb debugging as well)
[12:23] <fSharp> tomreyn, no, but generally I know gnome disks has had issues
[12:24] <tomreyn> fSharp: so, i'm just trying to understand: one of your attempts to explain that there is a dmcrypt-luks encrypted device which you do not have the correct passphrase for is that gnome disks (why this software specifically?) erroneously created a partition that is encrypted?
[12:24] <fSharp> tomreyn, sorry, for your question about web search, yes, I did a bit, but not find really cases of this kind
[12:25] <fSharp> tomreyn, if you read my first post, I've written I have the correct passphrase
[12:25] <bugzbunny> It's open source
[12:25] <bugzbunny> What software
[12:26] <bugzbunny> fSharp: What is not working?
[12:26] <tomreyn> fSharp: i understand that you have a correct passphrase, but that there is an encrypted block device which you cannot decrypt using your passphrase.
[12:27] <donofrio> is 18.04 released as of yet?
[12:27] <tomreyn> donofrio: april 27
[12:27] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | donofrio
[12:27] <donofrio> k, tnx
[12:27] <donofrio> (I'm in that channel already have been for months lol)
[12:28] <donofrio> when is 17.04 out of support?
[12:28] <tomreyn> donofrio: so you'll know where to ask next time
[12:28] <JimBuntu> donofrio, short answer: not yet :-(
[12:28] <tomreyn> !17.04 | donofrio
[12:28] <fSharp> correct passphrase does not decrypt my partition
[12:28] <bugzbunny> I was noob
[12:28] <bugzbunny> It took years
[12:29] <tomreyn> fSharp: okay, i understand so much. i just don't understand how gnome.disk could have caused this. but we don't need to clarify this further unless oyu intend to.
[12:30] <tomreyn> fSharp: i guess i'm wondering whether you recently used gnome-disk to carry out changes which you assume might have caused this.
[12:30] <fSharp> yes
[12:31] <tomreyn> fSharp: i see. do you want to provide more details?
[12:34] <fSharp> tomreyn, yes, I'd like to know whether gnome disks or the copy-paste clipboard caused this.
[12:34] <bugzbunny> fSharp: We here to help
[12:34] <bugzbunny> We not enemies
[12:35] <bugzbunny> The more information you give the better
[12:35] <fSharp> what do you need?
[12:35] <tomreyn> fSharp: so what did you do using gnome-disks?
[12:36] <fSharp> inserted 1st usb drive, mounted it, inserted 2nd drive, created luks partition, copied the files
[12:36] <R13ose> Hi
[12:36] <craig4who> hi
[12:37] <tomreyn> fSharp: hmm, as long as you operated on other drives, i would not expect it to have impacted your OS installation which (in my understanding) resides on a different storage device.
[12:38] <bugzbunny> fSharp: You need to learn how to partinion disk
[12:38] <bugzbunny> fSharp: Learning it
[12:38] <bugzbunny> fSharp: If you are confused, ask!
[12:39] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: What guide for Ubuntun?
[12:40] <tomreyn> bugzbunny: sorry?
[12:40] <fSharp> I am here to get a clue on what happened. I know how to do it via CLI. it doesnt mean I should expect a program to bork a partition.
[12:40] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: Partition
[12:41] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I'd like to see soem Ubuntun explain disck partitioning
[12:41] <bugzbunny> disk*
[12:41] <tomreyn> fSharp: yes, you should not (unless you instructed it to, but i doubt you did or meant to if you have the knowlöedge to do it on the CLI)
[12:43] <tomreyn> fSharp: i'm afraid i can not provide more insight into what may have created the situation you have now. i assume you have been adivsed (and probably already knew) that it's mandatory to have current, complete, and restorable backups before doing any kind of storage layer modifications.
[12:43] <fSharp> thanks, next please!
[12:43] <tomreyn> bugzbunny: i would have to search the web to find one, is this somethign you can do, too?
[12:43] <fSharp> just have some experience with problem solving before you volunteer!
[12:45] <tomreyn> fSharp: i do have some, but the issue you're discussing is, as far as we can tell at this point, rather non-specific and singular. (and i'm not saying this to indicate it doesn't exist, 17.10 has had and still has plenty of bugs).
[12:45] <fSharp> if you cannot solve it, that's fine!
[12:45] <clincks> Hi all, I’m running a VMWare on a laptop with several ubuntu virtual servers. Virtual Machine Network are configured has “bridget”.  I need that the virtual servers are accessible from the outside world. I jump with my laptop from one DHCP environment to another (typically by different customers). How should I configure my Ubuntu servers to be able to intercommunicate and being accessible? I was thinking about a
[12:45] <clincks>  DynDns solution… but if I’m not connected to internet… this won’t work. Thanks for your help.
[12:46] <tomreyn> right :)
[12:47] <fSharp> now I hope someone can get my question from the very first post I made, and proceed relevantly
[12:49] <tomreyn> clincks: a connect back scenario might work. it's not technically / architecturally ideal, though. it is usually best / easier to run servers with fixed addressing (at a fixed location)
[12:49] <BillD73> clincks: I use No-IP
[12:50] <tomreyn> clincks: these networks you connect your computer to may also not appreciate (and take measures trying to prevent) you making services available to the outside from your system.
[12:50] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: k
[12:51] <tomreyn> clincks: the architectual part of this is more a question for ##networking, i guess.
[12:52] <bugzbunny> I don't find reading that I can help
[12:53] <bugzbunny> I like heling in my timezone
[13:03] <tomreyn> donofrio: did you spot ubottus' response to your 17.04 question?
[13:04] <tomreyn> just amking sure you're aware it's EOL
[13:05] <bugzbunny> I was going for walk
[13:06] <bugzbunny> BoostMoble
[13:06] <bugzbunny> I pust money into it
[13:06] <tomreyn> !ot | bugzbunny
[13:07] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: still issues with steam?
[13:07] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I actually disgree
[13:10] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: Yeah
[13:12] <tester> how can i set the default editor for just git to be vim, and for everythign else to be nano?
[13:22] <tomreyn> tester: how do you run start the editor for git?
[13:24] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: for one of the (more mature, assumed to usually work properly) games which do not work, you can add this in properties -> general (tab) -> launch options: >/tmp/log 2>&1
[13:25] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: this will ensure that console output of this very game is written to /tmp/log while you start it
[13:25] <bugzbunny> :}
[13:26] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: Ok, done. Pastebin I expect?
[13:26] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: yes, we can try. it's kind of OT here, but since it's rather calm here, let's look into it.
[13:27] <tomreyn> tester: how do you edit files with git? how do you spawn the editor?
[13:29] <oneirosFade> I'd take it to the Steam chan, but they're locked.
[13:29] <oneirosFade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/787TcmphCX/
[13:31] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: there's #ubuntu-steam
[13:31] <oneirosFade> Ok, I can take this there if it's best to do so
[13:32] <tomreyn> personally i have no preference, just wanted to tell you
[13:33] <tomreyn> lines 1 and 2 are "normal", this is steam not caring about logic.
[13:33] <tomreyn> "X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)" is a problem which is most likely the cause of your games not starting
[13:35] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: which ubuntu release is this (lsb_release -ds) and which graphics card do you have there (lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA)?
[13:36] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: please also post what "glxinfo -B" returns
[13:36] <tomreyn> !paste
[13:36] <grvoyt_> hello
[13:37] <tomreyn> hi grvoyt_
[13:37] <grvoyt_> can you help me)))
[13:37] <tomreyn> !ask | grvoyt_
[13:37] <tester> tomreyn `git commit` for example
[13:38] <tester> or `git rebase -i`
[13:38] <grvoyt_> amd grafic drivers for ubuntu 17 10
[13:38] <grvoyt_> amd radeon R5
[13:39] <grvoyt_> on off site only windows drivers, where i can find for ubuntu 17 10
[13:39] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fpj4GMXFH3/ (all three commands together)
[13:41] <bugzbunny> grandfso: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:5917] (rev 07)
[13:42] <tomreyn> tester: git config --global core.editor /usr/bin/vim
[13:43] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: awersome
[13:43] <jopz> freenode
[13:44] <bugzbunny> I actually speake
[13:44] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: did you install intel drivers from 01.org directly?
[13:44] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: No
[13:45] <bugzbunny> i APPRECIATE WAHT i READ
[13:45] <bugzbunny> tHAT
[13:45] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: okay, i just never saw those device descriptions before, but that's fine then
[13:45] <bugzbunny> hoW i FEEL
[13:45] <oneirosFade> It's from the System76 repo, likely
[13:46] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: can you show the output of: sudo apt update; apt-cache policy
[13:47] <bugzbunny> oneirosFade: I am sorry, what is the specific problem?
[13:47] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hzHnHc8BZH/
[13:48] <bugzbunny> Ahh
[13:48] <oneirosFade> bugzbunny: Steam installs, runs, appears to install games. So far, no games actually launch.
[13:48] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: thanks. also: apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri
[13:48] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zggZq2yPZG/
[13:49] <pikapika> I was just seeing my downloads folder and I saw that the files have world permission of read-only. What is the reasoning behind this? Also should it be better for media, webpage, etc files to have rw world perms for a partiton that only stores "shared" files?
[13:49] <oneirosFade> I have to go into a meeting in a minute, so I won't be able to read/respond for some time.
[13:50] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I gat your back
[13:51] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika, that is normal behavior for all folders
[13:51] <pikapika> So I should manually make the files into rw- for a shared partition?
[13:52] <pikapika> The downloads folder I will let it be as it is
[13:52] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: hmm, this seems to be farly standard. i can't seem to tell why it's happening for you but not others. how did you install steam?
[13:52] <pikapika> I am talking about a non-os partition I just converted to ext4 to transfer wine folder to
[13:52] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: Just apt-get if I recall
[13:52] <pikapika> Can it cause problems if video, audio, etc stored there is turned to rw world permissions?
[13:53] <oneirosFade> Multiverse, yeah
[13:53] <pikapika> Not touching the perms in wine folder of  course
[13:53] <bugzbunny> pragmaticenigma: ?
[13:54] <pikapika> I guess it shouldnt matter much unless I have a multiboot system
[13:54] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: I love what I read
[13:55] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: you have my
[13:55] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: if you not scared
[13:55] <oneirosFade> BBIAB, tomreyn, thanks
[13:56] <bugzbunny> If you not scard
[13:58] <pragmaticenigma> pika pika... for a folder intended to be shared by multiple users, it would be better to change the group ownership of the folder and it's contents to a group that all users are a member of. Then change the group permissions to RW if they are not alerady set that way
[13:58] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika ^ ^
[13:59] <pikapika> Hm yes this sounds like a much better idea. Thank you!
[14:00] <pragmaticenigma> pikapika, Also, I'd read up on stickybits... which will help you set the folder permissions for new files to inherit the group setting
[14:00] <pikapika> Thanks, I will look into it
[14:00] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: sorry, took me a while. i needed to learn again how to make steam not use some of its bundled libraries. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/4768 discusses this to a degree, also https://askubuntu.com/questions/614422/problem-with-installing-steam-on-ubuntu-15-04 in more detail
[14:03] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: steam has this general issue that they try to be compatible to everything with a single steam release, whereas normally you'd provide separate packages specific to the target system (e.g. ubuntu 17.10 would get slightly different software packages with different dependencies than 16.04 normally).
[14:05] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: so steam bundles some libraries which are an attempt to work with any linux distribution and version. this fails miserably overall, but sometimes works to a degree. a possible workaround is to remove / rename those bundles libraries which can also be provided (and in much better quality) by your OS. this is what these posts discuss, and there is a relevant chance that doing so will fix the mesa / X issue you're seeing.
[14:10] <Aranor> Hi
[14:11] <tomreyn> pikapika: and while you're at it, look into "umask" as well.
[14:12] <bugzbunny> tomreyn: right
[14:12] <tomreyn> pikapika: generally i would not recommend making files world writable. even if this is not a multi user system you might copy them to another system which is, and then (maybe) everyone could access them.
[14:22] <Aranor> Tell ME someone how to get unity 7 to ubuntu 18.04 please
[14:25] <ducasse> Aranor: the channel for 18.04 support is #ubuntu+1 until release
[14:26] <Aranor> I know but unity 7 is now more legacy then new
[14:27] <ducasse> Aranor: still, that's the place to get support for 18.04
[14:29] <Aranor> In this time I have ubuntu 16.04 but next update is 18.04 LTS. I am little  nervous only
[14:36] <Aranor> The actual problem in my case is that my unity dash sometimes shows only "no results" until reboot systém. Do you know ho to permanently fix ?
[14:43] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: Thanks again, will check that out
[14:44] <oneirosFade> Err... Q#6144 is about a search tool though?
[14:48] <Aranor> Yes
[14:55] <effortDee> i just pressed a button and it made my browser full screen
[14:55] <effortDee> how can i undo this?
[14:55] <nicomachus> effortDee: F11
[14:55] <effortDee> ty
[14:55] <effortDee> worked
[14:55] <Sven_vB> is there a middle ground between encrypted home dir and full disk encryption? can I install Ubuntu with all my system partitions (/, /home, /tmp, /var/log) encrypted but have regular partitions behind them?
[14:55] <nicomachus> yw
[14:55] <effortDee> nicomachus++
[14:56] <nicomachus> Sven_vB: why tho
[14:56] <Sven_vB> nicomachus, I'd like to sync data to those partitions w/o unlocking the secret ones
[14:57] <Sven_vB> booting another OS of course
[14:58] <Sven_vB> I'm planning on installing the encrypted Ubuntu to a USB memory drive, so it would be easy to plug it into another machine.
[15:00] <albttx> HEllo :) doing a chroot i not able to download `live-boot`, it's "not found", any idea ?
[15:01] <albttx> found sorry ! sources.list error
[15:01] <albttx> missing sources when i am bootsraping a new ubuntu
[15:06] <pocketsquiddies> hey everyone
[15:06] <pocketsquiddies> how is everyone doing
[15:08] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: you must have cut off the url
[15:08] <tomreyn> askubuntu id 614422 if that's what you're referring to
[15:10] <oneirosFade> Ah, yep, my bad
[15:10] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: that's a standard full disk encryption (FDE) use case, i guess. although if it's a classic USB stick then this memory supports limited writes, and FDE is maybe not so suitable there.
[15:11] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: if it's rather storage cells like those of moden SSDs then this will be fine,
[15:12] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: just choose the full disk encryption option from the installer while installing to it.
[15:13] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, it's a largs (128 GB) USB thumb drive
[15:13] <tomreyn> tomreyn: this usually suggests modern storage technology, but it's not really possible to tell for sure based on the storage capacity.
[15:14] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, will the FDE install encrypt just the partitions I select for install, and leave the other ones untouched?
[15:16] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: guided partitioning with the FDE option will create two partitions: one for /boot, unencrypted, with a file system directly on it. and a second, where it will place a single encryption layer, make this an LVM PV, and create LVM LVs for the remaining file systems.
[15:16] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: whether or not your installation will replace existing partitions on the same storage device is a separate question asked early in the installation process.
[15:18] <Sven_vB> sounds like I should reorder partitions so they're /boot, then all my system partitions, then my data sync partitions; then verify the data sync partitions' data; then merge all system partitions into one big partition that will be replaced with the encryption container. right?
[15:20] <Sven_vB> s/sounds like/if I understand that correctly,/ :)
[15:21] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: i'm not sure which of these names refer to partitions which already exist or you are planning to manually create or have the installer create
[15:21] <aarobc> Hello. So, on ubuntu 16.04 phpunit tests would run in about 20 seconds if I mounted with `nobarrier`. Updated to 18.04, and even with `nobarrier` tests still take around 4 minutes. Very obviously a disk i/o thing, because If I create a ram disk and run tests from there, they take only like 9 seconds.
[15:21] <aarobc> Tried running from a xfs partition, they took around 3.5 mis. There's something screwed up with disk io on ubuntu :(
[15:21] <aarobc> mins*
[15:22] <aarobc> So, any ideas?
[15:22] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, I'll ask again when I have the actual list of partitions.
[15:22] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | aarobc
[15:22] <aarobc> tomreyn: kk thanks
[15:23] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: good plan. :) maybe put them on a pastebin or etherpad then, too.
[15:23] <elichai2> hbi
[15:23] <elichai2> hi
[15:23] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: you can do manual partitioning using the installer, too, of you so desire. often it's more convenient to do it beforehand, though.
[15:23] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, will do. thanks for your help so far!
[15:24] <elichai2> I have multiple libstdc libraries installed. how can I check\select which  one it's using?
[15:24] <tomreyn> welcome!
[15:24] <Sven_vB> yeah I always partition upfront in gparted because it can show me partition labels, whereas Ubiquity expects me to deal with numbers
[15:25] <tomreyn> elichai2: hopefully you don't. what makes you think you have multiple?
[15:26] <elichai2> https://pastebin.com/jrmn3DwA
[15:26] <elichai2> I have multiple gcc/g++ versions that I switch between with update-alternatives
[15:26] <tomreyn> elichai2: so you're referring to header files for development?
[15:27] <elichai2> what do you mean?
[15:27] <R13ose> Hi
[15:28] <elichai2> tomreyn:
[15:28] <tomreyn> elichai2: libstdc++6:amd64 and libstdc++6:i386 are the libc6 libraries which match your current system (for two different architectures in this multiarch system). you also have three different libstedc++*-dev packages installed, which are used to develop software.
[15:29] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: makes sense to me, ttyl.
[15:30] <elichai2> tomreyn: oh yeah, i'm sorry. I just have a linker error connected to glibc so I thought maybe it's the wront libstdc and I couldn't find how to check/change
[15:31] <tomreyn> elichai2: i would think this depends much on the linker error you're getting and the compiler and linker you're using. ;-)=
[15:31] <elichai2>   /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libsecp256k1.a(libsecp256k1_la-secp256k1.o): undefined reference to symbol '__fprintf_chk@@GLIBC_2.3.4'
[15:32] <niozerotoo> Hi there.
[15:33] <niozerotoo> Does anyone know of a replacement to the Windows program "DSpeech" for Ubuntu?
[15:33] <niozerotoo> It's a speech synthesis manager, you can enter text and switch voices by using different hashtags, I believe.
[15:33] <tomreyn> elichai2: do you have libglib2.0-dev installed?
[15:35] <elichai2> hmm by a quick search looks like no. only bin,data,and the regular package
[15:36] <tomreyn> niozerotoo: i think espeak and festival and the most mature spech synthesis packages (but i may be missing others).
[15:37] <akem> I don't understand the auto-hide of the dock in Ubuntu 17.10, you have to move Windows out or resize them smaller to get it to displays :/ It would be much more usefull with few pixels border that will pop it up full when the mouse is over it, i mean usual autohide. :/
[15:37] <niozerotoo> tomreyn: thank you. Are these engines or full softwares for writing scripts that are played ?
[15:38] <tomreyn> elichai2: i'm not actually sure whether that's the cause, but it may be. "sudo apt install build-essential" if you'd like to build C/C++ software.
[15:38] <elichai2> tomreyn: tried to install it and recompile both libsecp256k1 and my app and same error
[15:39] <elichai2> btw, build-essential was already installed
[15:39] <tomreyn> niozerotoo: engines, but there is software which builds on them, i just provided these engines as a starting point for your further investigation. ;-)
[15:40] <tomreyn> elichai2: which ubuntu release are you runnning, and can you point me to the source code of the software you are trying to build?
[15:41] <tomreyn> elichai2: run "lsb_release -ds" for the first answer
[15:41] <elichai2> 17.10, the thing is I'm trying to run it inside intel SGX Enclave
[15:43] <tomreyn> elichai2: i have no experience with intel SGX Enclave, and i guess this is most likely outside of ubuntu support. you could try asking in #ubuntu-app-devel, though
[15:44] <elichai2> ok. I'll try doing that outside of the enclave. thanks anyway
[15:51] <Shishire> I have a server that's missing the adm group in /etc/group.  Which package installs/owns that group?
[15:56] <tomreyn> Shishire: i believe the installer puts these files in place. the templates are provided by base-passwd.
[15:57] <tomreyn> Shishire: which ubuntu release is this? lsb_release -ds
[15:57] <tomreyn> Shishire: how did you install it?
[15:57] <nacc> tomreyn: yeah that sounds right
[15:57] <Shishire> I didn't install it, I inherited it.    Currently working on moving us to 16.04
[15:59] <csbadhe> My system is crashed and when I'm trying to install it from live CD I'm getting ['Firmware Bug]: TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata' on log. I'm not able to run install from the CD. I've searched the problem on askubuntu people are advising to update bios but I don't have access to system for it.... I'm kinda struct in it.. Please help if anyone k
[15:59] <csbadhe> now how to fix this
[16:00] <tomreyn> Shishire: so plan to migrate, not update ;)
[16:00] <tester> tomreyn sorry for the delay. thanks!
[16:03] <Tristam> intel-microcode is not my friend today.  :P
[16:03] <repys> I had a RAID1 in my computer and suddenly I got that the system didn't start anymore. at the boot it didn't find the efi boot file from both disks. few hours before I changed power supply of my computer, I am not sure if that would be related to. but my question is, I can't see any bad sector from smartctl from both disks. 1. what could be it happe
[16:03] <repys> ns to these disks? 2. can smartctl see if there problems in the first sectors of the disk (where efi files are)?
[16:04] <csbadhe> Any suggestions on what can I do?
[16:09] <EriC^> repys: are you able to mount the disks and see manually the files?
[16:10] <repys> EriC^: yes I Can
[16:10] <EriC^> repys: what does 'sudo efibootmgr -v' show if you run it from a live usb on said pc
[16:12] <tomreyn> csbadhe: you say your "system is crashed", can you provide more details? which live cd are you trying to install from, what's the name of the ISO file you downloaded or which (point) release and architecture is it? you say you don't have "access to the system for [updating the bios", why is this?
[16:12] <repys> EriC^: now I attached the disk with a usb adapter and I can read files from there
[16:13] <EriC^> repys: maybe the efi list got reset on the pc somehow
[16:13] <repys> EriC^: it is quite weird
[16:14] <repys> EriC^: how can I check the healthy state of these disks?
[16:14] <repys> disk from GNOME?
[16:14] <EriC^> repys: if you copy /efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi to /efi/Boot/bootx64.efi
[16:15] <EriC^> and /efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[16:15] <EriC^> it should boot it by default, if you're dual booting you'll need to backup the files
[16:16] <EriC^> repys: smartctl should do it
[16:21] <online> orb
[16:21] <online> test
[16:22] <tomreyn> Guest30784: please test it elsewhere, thanks.
[16:22] <repys> from smartctl I see Error ABRT
[16:22] <repys> what is that?
[16:22] <repys> but smartctl test passed
[16:22] <Guest30784> test
[16:24] <EriC^> repys: can you pastebin the results?
[16:24] <EriC^> !paste | repys
[16:26] <EriC^> repys: my guess is something happened when you replaced the powersupply and the efi list is reset
[16:27] <akem> Gnome-shell-extensions are great, i fixed my issue and also was able to autohide the topbar :D
[16:27] <EriC^> repys: try to get a live usb on it, and see the list using efibootmgr -v , or see if you can see the list from the bios or get a one time 'browse for efi file' or something
[16:30] <gatekeeper2018> anyone know how to get postressql to allow you to connect from another pc?
[16:30] <gatekeeper2018> on ubuntu
[16:37] <gatekeeper2018> can anyone help with a connection issue please?
[16:38] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: you need to edit pghba.conf and do stuff i forget every time i haven't looked for it for a week.
[16:39] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: postgresql 9.1 https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/auth-pg-hba-conf.html
[16:39] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, I have done: host  all  all <IP_ADDRESS>/0 md5 but it still won't let me in
[16:40] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: what is listen_address set to?
[16:40] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, "*"
[16:41] <rscheideman> 0
[16:41] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: can you run "nc -vv <IP_ADDRESS> 5432" locally?
[16:43] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: and can you run "nc -vv POSTGRESQL_IP 5432" from another computer (replacing POSTGRESQL_IP by the LAN / public ip address of the postgresql server)
[16:44] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn,  local one worked#
[16:44] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: actually add -4 to both 'nc' commands.
[16:47] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: if it works onlcy locally but not remotely, try the "remote" command ("nc -vv -4 POSTGRESQL_IP 5432") on the postgresql server, too. does this work?
[16:50] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, I am using a windows machine as my main pc so nc does not work
[16:51] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, I have postgres on a VM on my windows pc
[16:52] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: and you have no other linux / unix system there?
[16:53] <gatekeeper2018> postres is on a ubuntu VM and yes no other unix/linux system
[16:53] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: then try accessing it with a web browser. http://POSTGRESQL_IP:5432 (again replacing the IP address)
[16:53] <R13ose> tomreyn: the issue might have resolved itself
[16:53] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: tell me what the web browser does then
[16:54] <tomreyn> R13ose: they rarely do, what makes you think so?
[16:54] <R13ose> tomreyn: I am not seeing the + sign being typed out but I might be wrong
[16:55] <tomreyn> R13ose: okay i hope it stays this way. good luck.
[16:55] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, not sure what the local ip of the VM is but host name is ubuntu andhttp://ubuntu:5432/ can not reacch this page
[16:55] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: are you running a webserver in the VM?
[16:56] <R13ose> tomreyn: thanks.  I will wait for JT to come
[16:56] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, no not really
[16:57] <kashi2018> Good Morning
[16:57] <newbie1> Hi, can anyone tell me how to permanently keep a program running in taskbar?
[16:58] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, may be I install postgres on my windows PC?
[16:58] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: please run this in the VM and keep it running: while true ; do nc -l -p 8000 -c 'echo -e "HTTP/1.1 200 OK\n\n $(date)"'; done
[16:59] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: then access http://ubuntu:8000/ from windows - does it load?
[16:59] <kashi2018> can anyone tell me how do i move ubuntu 16.04 task bar from left to bottom of the screen?
[17:00] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, ok done that
[17:00] <EriC^> kashi2018: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/03/ubuntu-16-04-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom/
[17:00] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: what happens when you acces sit form the web browser? does it finish loading?
[17:00] <kashi2018> @Eric Thank you
[17:00] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, same as before
[17:01] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: so your windows is unable to reach the ubuntu VM using the hostname of "ubuntu". this is an issue on the host / virtualization you will need to solove first of all.
[17:02] <R13ose> newbie1: can't you right click the program and say keep?
[17:03] <newbie1> well I can add to favorites but this is a program designed to run in taskbar so I have to open it every time
[17:03] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, I had it connecting to a MySQL database although the connection was very ropey using ubuntu as the server name
[17:03] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: usually this is solved by configuring a bridge rather than a host-only  or NAT network configuration on the virtualization software. the details are off topic for this channel, check with your virtualizations' support channels.
[17:03] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, I have a bridge already. :-)
[17:04] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: one more explanation might be that you've configured a firewall / iptables on the VM
[17:04] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: "sudo iptables -L" should tell
[17:05] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: also try accessing it by ip address rather than "ubuntu" hopstname, since this may not work as well
[17:06] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, they all say policy accept
[17:06] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, firefox is broken on the local VM so I need to fix that
[17:06] <R13ose> newbie1: what happens when the program is open and you right click the program in the taskbar?
[17:07] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: how do you manage the ubuntu VM, through a console the virtualization provides itself or do you connect to it through ssh?
[17:07] <newbie1> it gives me settings/quit options but settings doesn't give me any option to pin it
[17:07] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, I am using VM Player
[17:08] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: this doesn't answer the question, though. :)
[17:08] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: let me try this: do you use putty to connect to the server, or just VMware Player?
[17:09] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, don't use putty
[17:09] <kashi2018> can anyone tell me how do install MFCJ4620 Brother scanner drivers that are only available in .rpm for my Asus x386-64. I am able to install Printer drives successfully because it was debian file.
[17:09] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, just VMPlayer
[17:10] <kashi2018> I am using ubuntu 16.04. I have a post this in Hardware thread.
[17:10] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: okay, i think your network configuration is wrong, seek help from vmware player on windows support channels, then come back here for ubuntu support.
[17:11] <gatekeeper2018> tomreyn, ok thanks
[17:11] <tomreyn> gatekeeper2018: problem description: you are unable to establish a TCP connection from your windows host to the VMWare Player guest (running Ubuntu)
[17:13] <tomreyn> newbie1: can you tell us what this program is, and which ubuntu release you are running (lsb_release -ds)?
[17:13] <ioria> kashi2018, is this ? http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcj4620dw_us_eu_as&os=128
[17:15] <newbie1> It is bitticker and I am running 17.10
[17:15] <kashi2018> @Loria Thank you for the link. I have already installed the printer drivers. printer is working successfully. it is the scanner i am trying to make it to work and i can't find the drivers for it.
[17:16] <tomreyn> kashi2018: it's "ioria" ;-) and the scanner drivers are on this page.
[17:16] <ioria> kashi2018, in the same page (below) there are .deb pkg fot the scanner ...
[17:16] <kashi2018> @Loria I need deb file for scanner as well for my 16.04 ubuntu- mfcj4620dw
[17:16] <ioria> kashi2018, yes, we got it ^^
[17:18] <kashi2018> @loria  yes thanks
[17:18] <ioria> kashi2018,  and this is the tutorial i used : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/15
[17:19] <tomreyn> newbie1: hmm that's not an ubuntu package, it was probably never integrated into ubuntu and thus cannot persist on the panel
[17:19] <riex> root
[17:19] <tomreyn> newbie1: how do you install it / where from?
[17:20] <tomreyn> riex: here!
[17:20] <newbie1> i installed it from ubuntu software
[17:20] <newbie1> I have it running in taskbar i just have to open it every time i turn on comp
[17:21] <tomreyn> newbie1: oh it's a snap https://snapcraft.io/bitticker
[17:22] <niozerotoo> Can Ubuntu get viruses?
[17:22] <newbie1> yes thats it and I have snap installed
[17:23] <newbie1> the program works just fine, just trying to pin it in taskbar
[17:23] <BluesKaj> !virus | niozerotoo
[17:23] <tomreyn> newbie1: can you open the ubuntu dash and search for "sessions and startup"?
[17:24] <niozerotoo> How is that? Why can't they get viruses?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> niozerotoo, read the url above
[17:24] <newbie1> yup, done
[17:25] <tomreyn> newbie1: actually make sure you have bitticker running when you do
[17:25] <newbie1> ok it is
[17:25] <kashi2018> @loria thanks reading ...what is Linux Mint.
[17:25] <tomreyn> newbie1: then go to "application autostart" tab
[17:25] <newbie1> k
[17:26] <tomreyn> newbie1: see if it's already listed there. if not, click on add
[17:26] <newbie1> do I add the entire folder?
[17:26] <tomreyn> newbie1: not sure what you mean, you just add one application
[17:27] <newbie1> sorry, i got it figure out.. thanks
[17:28] <tomreyn> newbie1: name and description you can choose yourself, i can help you with the command if needed.
[17:28] <R13ose> newbie1: did you add the app or the folder?
[17:28] <happyfr0gg> I have a laptop running Ubuntu version 14.04.+. How do I upgrade it to 16.04.4?
[17:29] <happyfr0gg> Preferably Lubuntu.
[17:29] <leftyfb> happyfr0gg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_or_15.10
[17:30] <leftyfb> happyfr0gg: first result on google for "ubuntu 14.04 upgrade to 16.04"
[17:31] <happyfr0gg> leftyfb - thanks.
[17:32] <newbie1> added the app
[17:35] <tomreyn> newbie1: very well, that's it then, if it works. :-)
[17:37] <oneirosFade> Any notion where "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines" comes from? I've got qt5-defaults installed, but that isn't helping.
[17:38] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/iconengines
[17:38] <leftyfb> oneirosFade: libqt5svg5
[17:38] <leftyfb> oneirosFade: I used apt-file to search
[17:39] <oneirosFade> Hm, I tried dpkg -S and got nothing.
[17:39] <leftyfb> oneirosFade: I just gave you the answer and how to find the answer
[17:39] <oneirosFade> I see that lefty, thank you
[17:41] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: but since dpkg isn't sware of it, i guess it means you no longer have this package installed, and the file was left there somehow (or placxed there by you manually)
[17:41] <tomreyn> sware -> aware
[17:42] <oneirosFade> tomreyn: Ohh, ok, no, I needed to know what package to install to *get* that file :)
[17:42] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: oh, igot you wrong there
[17:42] <oneirosFade> It's ok, I got it wrong, too
[17:42] <tomreyn> oneirosFade: luckily lefty didn't ;-)
[17:42] <oneirosFade> Yeah, lefty solved one of my problems :)
[17:50] <csbadhe> tomreyn: sorry for late reply.. I've ubuntu 17.10 LTS in live CD and my system is crashed because I accidentally deleted the system. I want the fresh install... any help will be very much appreciated
[17:53] <csbadhe> tomreyn: The condition is like I don't have any system in my PC but still I can access the GRUB rescue menu... now I want to fresh install ubuntu from live CD but I'm getting that firmware error
[17:54] <tomreyn> csbadhe: and you don't mind loosing data you had on your previous installation?
[17:55] <csbadhe> tomreyn: I already have backup of it on drive...
[17:55] <csbadhe> I don't mind loosing it
[17:56] <tomreyn> what about the bios?
[17:56] <csbadhe> I can access it...
[17:57] <tomreyn> okay, that's the opposite of what you wrote earlier.
[17:58] <Sbur3> Power point problem.  I have a powerpoint presentation (pptx) that crashes LibreOffice Impress.  Any ideas to help me?
[17:59] <tomreyn> csbadhe: which ubuntu release exactly 17.04.0 or 17.04.1? / when did you download it? the 17.10.0 release images would not work on some computers, that's why i'm asking.
[17:59]  * tomreyn got to go, be back in ~45 min
[18:00] <leftyfb> uh
[18:01] <csbadhe> tomreyn: It's ubuntu 17.10.1
[18:01] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I didn't think there's such thing as 17.04.1 or 17.10.1. I thought that was just for LTS releases.
[18:01] <nacc> leftyfb: they respun 17.10
[18:02] <nacc> leftyfb: due to serious installation issues with certain laptops
[18:02] <nacc> leftyfb: agreed re: 17.04.1, though
[18:07] <Sbur3> Any other program for Ubuntu 17.10 to watch a pptx powerpoint presentation?
[18:08] <R13ose> Sbur3: there are tons
[18:10] <Sbur3> R13ose: Got a quick one to suggest?  I've tried several times to open a pptx file in Impress, but each time, it crashes.  I'm looking for something.  In the software thing, nothing comes up.  And I'd like it free
[18:11] <intel> hello
[18:17] <csbadhe> If I missed any messages previously please ping me now I was offline for some time since my last reply sorry and thanks
[18:19] <thxffo> cat /sys/class/net/(iface)/carrier  gives me a "cat" carrier: Invalid argument
[18:20] <thxffo> how do i tell if something is physically connected to the interface in ubuntu?
[18:23] <tomreyn> Sbur3: can you share the document by chance? i'd like to see impress crash
[18:23] <Sbur3> R13ose: Got one to suggest?  I tried looking at Calligra Stage, but Calligra is said to have been discontinued, so I'm a little at a loss.  It's the presentation that was shown at my father's funeral
[18:24] <nacc> thxffo: that file does not return EINVAL for me; ethtool should be able to tell you
[18:24] <Sbur3> tomreyn: I don't like seeing things crash, but I'd rather not share as the pptx is the presentation that was shown at my father's funeral service
[18:25] <tomreyn> Sbur3: that's entirely understandable.
[18:26] <Sbur3> tomreyn: I'm just looking for something to share it with my wife who wasn't able to attend
[18:26] <Sbur3> tomreyn: If it was something else, I"d have no problem sharing the pptx that crashes Impress
[18:30] <SimonNL> csbadhe: https://git.io/vxXK4
[18:30] <tomreyn> Sbur3: try some of these https://alternativeto.net/tag/microsoft-office-compatible/?platform=linux
[18:31] <dmm> hello
[18:31] <tomreyn> csbadhe: i would expect that microsofts' online service can import them properly
[18:31] <tomreyn> csbadhe: ...and you could maybe generate apdf there
[18:31] <TJ-> thxffo: is the interface you're trying to read a virtual one?
[18:33] <tomreyn> csbadhe: there is also unoconv, a command line file format converter which understands this format. but this is basically the same which libreoffice uses, so chances are this *may* also crash.
[18:34] <dmm> easy way to install cuda on ubuntu
[18:34] <dmm> 16.0
[18:34] <tomreyn> csbadhe: sorry the last three things i said were for Sbur3
[18:34] <csbadhe> tomreyn: no worries!
[18:35] <csbadhe> Thanks SimonNL
[18:35] <tomreyn> csbadhe: can you remind me what happened when you tried to boot off the 17.04.1 installer?
[18:36] <mazhar> i am not trying yet
[18:36] <tomreyn> csbadhe: it's also not yet clear whether you can or cannot access the bios and whether or not you could carry out a bios upgrade (since you said you read it helps)
[18:36] <tomreyn> csbadhe: finally, can you tell us your exact hardware model number please (if it's a ready-made computer).
[18:37] <Atlantes> I'm trying to get my right click to work (touchpad, Dell XPS 9560, ubuntu 18.04) but it doesn't seem to recognize the button. Already tried installing the synaptics driver and configured it (70-synaptics.conf, adding Option "ClickPad" "1"    Option "SoftButtonAreas" "60% 0 82% 0 40% 60% 82% 0")). Someone has a clue what I can do to get the right click to work?
[18:37] <tomreyn> dmm: there is no "ubuntu 16.0". also, which graphics card do you have there?
[18:38] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | Atlantes
[18:41] <mjt> hello! does ubuntu have cross-compilers like debian does, gcc-s390x-linux-gnu gcc-powerpc64-linux-gnu etc packages?
[18:42] <s10gopal> how to build a kernel from git ? i want to do  git bisect run
[18:42] <leftyfb> s10gopal: if you're asking that, how you expect to figure out bisection?
[18:43] <s10gopal> leftyfb, https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/admin-guide/bug-bisect.html
[18:43] <leftyfb> s10gopal: why do you want to do this?
[18:43] <csbadhe> tomreyn: I'm explaining the issue again, somhow I deleted my whole Ubuntu system and data containing on hard disk. Now I want to fresh install Ubuntu 17.10.1 in my Lenovo G50-80 (Model Number: 80E5). I have live CD of Ubuntu 17.10.1 but when I try to boot from it I get '[Firmware Bug]: TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata' error. I can access the BI
[18:43] <csbadhe> OS menubut for upgrading it we need operating system which I don't have for now. So basically, there is no system in my PC.
[18:43] <s10gopal> leftyfb, https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198665 , it dont happen upto kernel 4.12
[18:44] <s10gopal> leftyfb, and it start happening from kernel 4.13
[18:46] <dmm> tomyrn: am using ubuntu 16.04.4 on intel machine
[18:48] <vexorr> oh dear
[18:48] <mjt> hello! does ubuntu have cross-compilers like debian does, gcc-s390x-linux-gnu gcc-powerpc64-linux-gnu etc packages? can someone please check?
[18:49] <TJ-> !info gcc-s390x-linux-gnu
[18:49] <s10gopal> according to kernel.org "Using the provided tools with git makes finding bugs easy provided the bug is reproducible." is figuring out bisection is hard ?
[18:49] <mjt> TJ-: thanks! :)
[18:50] <tomreyn> csbadhe: give me a minute, i'm researching yuor system and available options
[18:50] <mjt> hm. it's in universe. can packages from universe be specified in Build-Depends field for packages in main?
[18:50] <s10gopal> i want to do https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/admin-guide/bug-bisect.html , can anyone please help me ?
[18:51] <csbadhe> tomreyn: For sure and thanks
[18:51] <jluc> i guess you'd better ask your question s10gopal
[18:51] <leftyfb> lol
[18:51] <s10gopal> that is my question
[18:52] <dmm> tomreyn: ubuntu 16.04.4 on intel graphics
[18:52] <leftyfb> s10gopal: if you can't figure out getting the kernel from git and building it, then yes, bisecting is very hard
[18:52] <tomreyn> dmm: intel machine as in intel integrated graphics? if so, i don't think cuda can be avialable, since this is only available with nvidia hardware (and software). opencl should work, but within the limits of what this chip can provide.
[18:52] <s10gopal> leftyfb, can you please guide me ?
[18:52] <TJ-> mjt: Yes. Some binary packages are split between main and universe too
[18:53] <kingc> anyone in here use cdm?
[18:53] <leftyfb> s10gopal: that is well beyond the scope of this channel. I would start with looking for tutorials on using git and compiling the linux kernel
[18:53] <leftyfb> kingc: Are you taking a survey?
[18:53] <jluc> lol
[18:53] <kingc> leftyfb: sorry no, I was looking for some advice on getting it working with dwm
[18:54] <leftyfb> kingc: then ask that question
[18:54] <kingc> if I add dwm to the binlist as an X session it just goes to a prompt.. doesnt launch anything
[18:54] <kingc> but if I add exec dwm to my xinitrc and run startx all is good
[18:55] <dmm> tomreyn: ok
[18:55] <tomreyn> csbadhe: can you boot off the cdrom and hold down the left shift key? this should bring up a menu
[18:58] <ioria> kingc, or you use a dm or use xinitrc with startx , right ?
[18:59] <kingc> ioria: at the moment I am just using starts with xinitrc. its all that works. Not bothered about lightdm or anything
[18:59] <kingc> startx
[18:59] <ioria> kingc, that's ok
[18:59] <dmm> when i turn off safe boot on my toshiba so i can use third party drivers on ubuntu, windows cannot boot anymore
[18:59] <TJ-> s10gopal: here's the kernel bisection guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection#How_do_I_bisect_the_upstream_kernel.3F
[19:00] <kingc> ioria: yeah its alright, but it would be nice to see this cdm work. Pretty confusing
[19:00] <mjt> TJ-: thank you!
[19:00] <ioria> kingc, that cmd ?
[19:00] <mjt> !info openhackware
[19:00] <mjt> !info openbios-sparc
[19:01] <mjt> !info u-boot
[19:01] <ioria> kingc, what is 'cdm' ?
[19:01] <kingc> ioria: cdm. Its a cli login manager
[19:01] <kingc> it uses dialog to just spawn processes. X and otherwise.
[19:01] <kingc> looks interesting but I have not had any luck getting it working as of yt.
[19:02] <ioria> kingc, is that an ubuntu pkg ?
[19:02] <kingc> erm not sure actually, I think I might have built it from source, so perhaps its offtopic hah never thought about that.
[19:03] <ioria> kingc, ok, sounds interesting ... do you have a link ?
[19:03] <kingc> ermmmm sure, one second
[19:04] <kingc> https://github.com/evertiro/cdm
[19:05] <kingc> there is an arch linux wiki about it too which is a good resource for information, but like I say, not managed to get it working yet. makes me think I have xinitrc setup wrong. but startx does work so its strange one
[19:05] <ioria> kingc, i see
[19:06] <R13ose> When I click on the power button four options come up and how to make sure suspend is the default option?
[19:06] <implite> are you using systemd or something else for your system kingc?
[19:06] <kingc> systemd. Its just a ubuntu minimal installation. nothing special
[19:08] <tomreyn> csbadhe: still around?
[19:09] <kingc> I wonder if there are any other well known cli login managers as an alternative to cdm
[19:09] <kingc> I'll google around, because I am having no luck ere
[19:10] <kingc> here
[19:10] <rzyz85fr> Hello, is there a channel for ubuntu ARM ?
[19:10] <Ben64> #ubuntu-arm
[19:10] <ioria> kingc, https://github.com/dopsi/console-tdm
[19:11] <kingc> ioria: reading that one now actually. looks nice.
[19:11] <br34k> hi guys, why is there no https version of http://releases.ubuntu.com/ ??? i know you can verify the download via their gpg...
[19:11] <ioria> kingc, more recent
[19:11] <kingc> ok this looks great. installing now
[19:13] <tomreyn> br34k: that'll be considered sufficient.
[19:13] <rzyz85fr> Ben64, thanks
[19:13] <br34k> it's easy as cake to offer https, that way all the checksums can't be altered
[19:13] <br34k> there is no excuse anymore for not offering tls
[19:15] <tomreyn> br34k: you cdould try brining this up in #ubuntu-mirrors and maybe #canonical
[19:15] <R13ose> I figured it our
[19:15] <br34k> tomreyn, thank you
[19:17] <tomreyn> br34k: chances are it's currently in the works since chrome + firefox will probably start discriminating non https sites further sometime this year.
[19:17] <csbadhe> tomreyn yes
[19:18] <tomreyn> !md5 | csbadhe
[19:18] <tomreyn> csbadhe: try this first, to make sure your baked iso did not come out badly. do you also have a spare usb stick?
[19:20] <tomreyn> csbadhe: unfortunately the hardware maual lenovo provides for your model is utter garbage, so i don't even know which graphics hardware you have there.
[19:21] <Zap123> Hello, does anyone have experience with pcie aer errors? I'm having constant freezes with ryzen and would like to find to pin point the problem but I'm not sure how to read the error
[19:21] <csbadhe> tomreyn: I've tested the ISO file on another PC and it works fine on it... I mean I can install the system from same ISO on another pc
[19:22] <csbadhe> tomreyn: I don't have graphics card in it...
[19:22] <quber2> Hello all, curious if anyone has had any success linking iPhone iMessages to ubuntu?  I previously had used airmessage successfully but it no longer supports newest ios
[19:26] <leftyfb> quber2: if you find something, I would love to know about it
[19:29] <quber2> Ha, I don't think it exists
[19:29] <quber2> Been searching all day
[19:31] <tomreyn> csbadhe: so probably an intel integrated gpu then
[19:31] <tomreyn> csbadhe: sorry for not responding again, i got distracted trying to gain access to the latest system bios
[19:32] <tomreyn> csbadhe: what about the usb storage?
[19:33] <csbadhe> tomreyn: Yes I have spare USB
[19:34] <tomreyn> csbadhe: okay maybe you can try the 18.04 beta there, if that's not too much effort?
[19:34] <tomreyn> csbadhe: oh right you said you currently have no system you can boot, sorry
[19:35] <csbadhe> tomreyn: yeah
[19:37] <tomreyn> csbadhe: so let's see what we can do to get this booting. this firmware bug you're running into was supposed to have been wroked aroun din 17.10.1 IIRC, but you say that'S the one you have so i guess it doesn't always work
[19:39] <tomreyn> csbadhe: is there someone available who could provide you with an 18.04 beta1 or 16.04.4 installer image? since i think they should have workarounds for this issue.
[19:40] <kakashiAL> hi, I am using xubuntu LTS 16.04, I used testdisk to recover some files, but my laptorp didnt responded anymore and I had to restart
[19:40] <kakashiAL> after the restart I can login
[19:40] <TJ-> tomreyn: what's the 'firmware' issue? My scroolback doesn't have anything
[19:40] <kakashiAL> but then I just see the xubuntu desktop wallpaper
[19:40] <kakashiAL> no panel
[19:40] <tomreyn> csbadhe: another option may be that you enter your bios and enable CSM (compatibility support mode)
[19:40] <kakashiAL> no desktop icons
[19:42] <tomreyn> TJ-: hey, just when i need you. :) '[Firmware Bug]: TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata' on 17.10.1 installer ISO (cdrom).
[19:42] <tomreyn> I assume this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1724650/comments/53
[19:43] <kingc> ioria: naa i must have issues with my xinit or my xorg setup. it just hangs. reading the logs now
[19:44] <tomreyn> TJ-: csbadhe who is seeking assitence with this issue here, just left. but in case they'll be back, and for me to know it next time, do you know a workaround which does not require another working system?
[19:44] <TJ-> tomreyn: in theory that is just a report, it shouldn't be actually causing a problem in boot
[19:45] <s10gopal> how to use command like git log --oneline Ubuntu-2.6.35-24.42..Ubuntu-2.6.35-25.43 | wc , to find commits in there ? i want to find commits between 4.12 and 4.13 but  git log --oneline 4.12..4.13 | wc dont work
[19:45] <ioria> kingc, you said it's a minimal install.... how did you install xorg ?
[19:45] <tomreyn> TJ-: ah, you're right, so it's just the last thing that gets printed on screen befiore it freezes, i guess.
[19:46] <tomreyn> TJ-: i wasn't told it freezes, but the GUI never starts apparently
[19:46] <agio> hi all. when the "magic sequence" of <SysRq> + REISUB is run, I understand the `S' part of REISUB means "sync the disks/block devices" what does that mean?
[19:46] <kingc> ioria: I fixed it. bloody hell man, there was an .Xauthority-c file there owned by root.. is that a lock file or something? I removed it and it worked.
[19:46] <ioria> kingc, oh, that is trivial :]
[19:47] <kingc> haha I didnt know about it until now
[19:47] <tomreyn> agio: commit any (write) cached data to disk
[19:47] <ioria> kingc, you maybe was root when you run startx
[19:47] <kingc> yeah pretty dumb
[19:47] <kakashiAL> anyone?:(
[19:47] <tomreyn> agio: in fact only SUB work on Ubuntu, the others are ignored.
[19:48] <agio> tomreyn: ah, ok thanks.
[19:49] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: boot to emergency and run a file system check
[19:49] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: how can I do that?:(
[19:50] <TJ-> tomreyn: the missing GUI I've seen before, I think it's unrelated. It's possibly a UEFI GOP/video/modesetting issue for which 'nomodeset' may help
[19:50] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: do you still have an installer / live cd / usb available whcih is the same ubuntu version?
[19:51] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: no, but I can swith with ctrl+alt+FN to different terminals
[19:51] <tomreyn> TJ-: thank you.
[19:51] <agio> If I plug in a LUKS encrypted device, either a USB or a hard disk and I mount it via the nautilus menu (not manually via command line) - if I then say did a normal shutdown - but forgot to unmount the luks USB - would the unmounting and syncing operations be performed by the OS as part of its shutdown tasks?
[19:52] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: should I run "fdisk -l
[19:52] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay do this, then login there, then do this: sudo adduser ${USER}1 --gecos ''
[19:53] <TJ-> agio: yes
[19:53] <kakashiAL> TJ-: done
[19:54] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: then run "sudo lightdm restart". then login as the new user you just created. you should then have a default desktop environment.
[19:55] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: now I see just a black screen with a cursor blinking
[19:55] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: after doing what exactly?
[19:55] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: after "sudo lightdm restart"
[19:56] <TJ-> kakashiAL: can you Ctrl+Alt+F1 to a tty?
[19:56] <kakashiAL> TJ-: yes
[19:56] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay switch through ctrl-alt-f1 to -f7 until you see the loing screen
[19:56] <tomreyn> *login screeb
[19:56] <tomreyn> n
[19:56] <tomreyn> ...
[19:57] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: there where the loginscreen was (F7), is now a black screen with a blinking cursor
[19:57] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay so just reboot to the login screen and login as the new user
[19:58] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[19:58] <agio> TJ-: thanks. If I manually loaded those same LUKS devices via the command line commands: `cryptsetup luksOpen ... ...' and 'mount ....'  then performed a shutdown - forgetting to unmount and detach the LUKS mapper - can I rely on the system to sync and unmount the devices in that case also?
[19:59] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: okay, did that. If I do that, I turn back to the login menu
[19:59] <s10gopal> how to build kernel from source ?
[20:00] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: hmm i guess the testdisk operation was not entirely successfull, you uubntu installation appears to be broken then (on first sight).
[20:00] <TJ-> agio: Yes
[20:00] <agio> TJ-: nice, thanks
[20:01] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: can you login on the text terminal again (doe snot matter which user) and run: sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install
[20:01] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: no internet :(
[20:02] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: my xubuntu is not broken, I got the error since I used testdisk to recover a delete file
[20:02] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay, reboot, while it's booting hold down left shift key. a menu (grub) should show up. select the recovery option
[20:02] <kakashiAL> my OS froze, I restarted and since that I have this problem
[20:02] <s10gopal> i want to do <TJ-> s10gopal: no, running 'git bisect' is the easy bit. I'm referring to preparing to build by copying in an appropriate .config file, doing 'make silentoldconfig' then 'make bzImage' then having to copy that into /boot/vmlinuz-test, build an initrd.img 'update-initramfs -c -k test' and 'update-grub' then reboot test and repeat as required. , can anyone please guide me
[20:02] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: okay, second
[20:02] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: i dont think testdisk recovers single files, just parition tables.
[20:03] <TJ-> tomreyn: question is why was testdisk needed? something/one overwrote the disk ?
[20:04] <tomreyn> TJ: "I got the error since I used testdisk to recover a delete file"
[20:04] <TJ-> tomreyn: indeed, which doesn't compute
[20:05] <tomreyn> confirmed
[20:06] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: so testdisk is not the right utility to restore a single file. was really just a single file lost or was there more than this broken? was there an error message which prompted you to use testdisk?
[20:06] <ericx2x> asdf
[20:06] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: this is what I did: I GRUB menu came, I selected the upper item with recovery, after that I choosed something like "default start"
[20:07] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: and now you have what you used to have. don't choose the "default start" next time ;-)
[20:07] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: I mean its the same problem
[20:07] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: and please also answer my questions aboce
[20:08] <tomreyn> *aboVe
[20:08] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: no error
[20:09] <OS-23778> Anybody had any experience with the Hp Envy x360 with Ryzen 2500U? I've updated my Kernel to 4.16, installed mesa and firmware.....but I still get random freezing, and now I have some weird frameskip issues.
[20:09] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: thanks for answering one of two questions.
[20:09] <OS-23778> On 17.10 on one of my laptops, 18.04 on the other. Same issues persist.
[20:10] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: do you mind answering the other one as well?
[20:10] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: sorry, yes
[20:10] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: I dont know what is broken
[20:10] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: i'm trying to understand what prompted you to run testdisk in the first place
[20:10] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: I tried just to recover a file
[20:11] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: ahh okay
[20:11] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay, thanks. for the future, testdisk is not for this.
[20:11] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: let me do it again, then I will tell you what the prompt is telling me
[20:11] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: now, did you reboot into recovery again, and got the shiny text menu?
[20:12] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: yes, the GRUB menu have 4 items
[20:12] <kakashiAL> Ubuntu
[20:12] <kakashiAL> Advanced Settings
[20:12] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: Advanced Settings please
[20:12] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: this is what I did, will do it again
[20:12] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: there you'll see recovery, choose this
[20:13] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: there are many (recovery mode) items
[20:13] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: the first one which says recovery mode please
[20:13] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: yes sir
[20:14] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: now I have a screen with a menu
[20:14] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: now when you're at the fancy purple text menu, please go with the "root" option
[20:14] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: okay
[20:14] <tomreyn> last but one
[20:14] <tomreyn> then press enter
[20:15] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: then run: lsblk
[20:15] <kakashiAL> Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue):
[20:15] <notadrop> is plugdev a safe group to let unprivileged users be a member of?
[20:15] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: and tell me what you see in the first column
[20:15] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay, enter the root password then
[20:16] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue): <--I tried the root password
[20:16] <kakashiAL> didnt work :(
[20:16] <kakashiAL> let me try again
[20:16] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: okay works now :)
[20:16] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: root password is not the password of your user account
[20:16] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: ok
 kakashiAL: then run: lsblk
[20:16] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: okay, let me run lsblk
[20:17] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: I see my devices
[20:17] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: can you tell me their names, please
[20:17] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: i assume it's not that many?
[20:18] <kakashiAL> sda, sda1, sda2, sda5
[20:18] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay, is sda2 of SIZE 1K?
[20:18] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: yes sir
[20:19] <mark721> hi guys quick question, when ubuntu updates stuff using the gui updater cant remember what its called. It gives u an option to restart later or restart now
[20:19] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: does sda5 say SWAP in the MOUNTPOINT coloumn and sda1 just "/"?
[20:19] <mark721> when i click restart later it literally waits about 1 minute and then prompts me again?
[20:19] <mark721> surely thats not normal ? literally giving me like a minute then asking me again
[20:19] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: nope, sda5 is my home
[20:19] <ericx2x> https://gist.github.com/ericjlima/a8a65c9b478ccb9f5bd2426a2d317e82
[20:19] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: I guess because of the size
[20:19] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: and sda1 is?
[20:20] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: MOUNTPOINT: /
[20:20] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay, what size are sda1 and sda5?
[20:20] <mark721> anyone?
[20:21] <kakashiAL> sda1 23.5G, sda5 870.8G
[20:21] <tomreyn> !patience | mark721
[20:21] <mark721> ubottu, i dont im in a hurry :)
[20:22] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: alright. please run: e2fsck -f /dev/sda1
[20:23] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: okay
[20:23] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: once that's done without errors (should be fast), please run: e2fsck -f /dev/sda5
[20:23] <tomreyn> this one will take longer
[20:24] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: just telling me something with 0.2%
[20:24] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: non-contiguous, that's ok.
[20:25] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: 0.1 in sda5 and no errors
[20:26] <quyetnguyen> hello
[20:27] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: okay, so your file systems are consistent, there must be some other sisue. but without network access this will be difficult to debug. the reason you did not have internet access on this system was because the desktop did not fully come up, i assume?
[20:28] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: yes, I have the wifi login of my friend to use shared wifi but I only can use the desktop/browser to login
[20:29] <kakashiAL> it has its own login form
[20:29] <backbox> hi
[20:30] <kasper> hello, anyone knows where to browse the apt packages code?
[20:30] <nacc_> kasper: as in the source?
[20:30] <kasper> like the actual makefiles etc that build those packages
[20:30] <kasper> yup
[20:30] <nacc_> kasper: pull-lp-source apt, or apt-get source apt, or any number of other ways
[20:30] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: can I restart?
[20:30] <tomreyn> OS-23778: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683 - see if you have a uefi setup option "Power Supply Idle Control", and set it to "Typical". otheriwse install the latest /wait for the upcoming bios update.
[20:30] <kasper> something browsable like https://github.com/alpinelinux/aports for alpine :(
[20:30] <nacc_> kasper: that's not currently how things work, but one moment
[20:31] <kasper> nacc_ maybe a mirror would do it
[20:31] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: sure, but restarting will most likely not make a difference now.
[20:31] <kasper> on github preferrably
[20:31] <nacc_> kasper: ... a mirror of what?
[20:31] <nacc_> kasper: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+git
[20:31] <kasper> mirror of apt git repo
[20:31] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: i think you will probbaly need to reinstall, since the operation you seem to have applied using testdisk basically seems to have scranmbled your data
[20:31] <nacc_> kasper: i don't think you understand what you're asking
[20:32] <nacc_> kasper: 'apt git repo' is the source package repository, afaik, because apt is a native package on Debian and ubuntu
[20:32] <nacc_> kasper: the above would work, or you can search yourself for Debian's git repo, if you want
[20:32] <nacc_> kasper: neither would be on github, because well why would they be
[20:32] <kasper> nacc_, i am pretty sure i understand what i am asking
[20:32] <nacc_> kasper: do you know what a source package is?
[20:32] <kasper> search for 'mirror'
[20:32] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: is there a way to get internet access on that laptop and is a normal "apt-get install" enough to fix my problem?
[20:35] <nacc_> kasper: not sure if that was directed at me
[20:35] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: for the first question: you should be able to use a live / installer iso written to a usb stick / pen drive / cdrom / dvd-rom to get online with a captive portal (your friends' internet access). but i seriously doubt that just running "sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install" will fix any problems.
[20:36] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: okay, let me see if I can find an usb stick
[20:36] <tomreyn> kakashiAL: more precisely, it may fix some problems but probably not all the problems you created when using testdisk.
[20:38] <tomreyn> csbadhe: oh you're back. if you want to read up, there's http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <R13ose> TJ-: hi
[20:42] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: I have LTS 14.04 LTS and found an USB with 16.04 LTS
[20:42] <kakashiAL> tomreyn: can I just choose the option: update 14 to 16?
[20:42] <kasper> in 18.04 beta, the default repository is listing llvm v6 toolchain, when we query or install llvm/clang
[20:42] <Tristam> Anybody having trouble with 4.13.0-3? kernels and the 3.20180312 version of intel-microcode?  I've got several newer machines freezing between grub and lightdm unless I remove the microcode package.
[20:42] <nacc_> Tristam: it's a bug filed already
[20:42] <kasper> is this the version of llvm 18.04 final is going to get?
[20:43] <nacc_> Tristam: let me look
[20:43] <bjonnh> how can I restart a systemd service in ubuntu's cloud-init ?
[20:43] <nacc_> kasper: #ubuntu+1