[05:29] <Quingin> need some help trying to get ubuntu to boot. and im hoping someone here can help me. and it may be the computer. when i put the disk in it runs like normal goes through the boot process and then hangs when it tries to load the gui. it shows the splash screen that says what is loading and when that disapears and before anything else loads it locks up. any ideas? i have used this same disk to install on my laptop so i know the disk works
[05:29] <twoshadetod> wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[05:29] <mzuverink> When you open a tty, it states a bunch of copyright things, where is that file so as to customize it?
[05:29] <politik> I'm having quite a bit of trouble installing using lvm/software raid using both the alternative install disk and the livecd.... any recommendations on how to do a more "manual" install?
[05:29] <qweqweqwe> GamingX: would be good if it existed on the repos :-)
[05:29] <scorbu> Hi , I'm having problems with a fresh installation on a new box :/ I cant get resolutions higher than 800x600 ... I've googled it up but cant find a fix ... anyone can help ?
[05:29] <RudyValencia> mzuverink: /etc/motd I believe
[05:29] <bulmer> twoshadetod: if your driver does not support scanning mode, you expect the gui to do the same?
[05:30] <Falstius> Quingin: have you tried using alt-f1 alt-f2 etc to see if there are any messages?
[05:30] <mzuverink> RudyValencia, Thanks, I'll check
[05:30] <faileas> RudyValencia: http://nothickmanuals.info/doku.php?id=minivmac all the way down theres a prebuilt package. i THINK its win/lin
[05:30] <twoshadetod> I expect it to be able to display a list of AP's I can connect to and give me the option to connect to them
[05:30] <Falstius> !res | scorbu
[05:30] <ubotu> scorbu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:30] <politik> is there any way to force the livecd to install /boot and / on particular partitions?
[05:30] <RudyValencia> faileas: sheepshaver isn't a prebuilt package is it?
[05:30] <faileas> >_>
[05:30] <politik> the installer doesn't show software raid devices
[05:30] <faileas> donno, i used bask and minivmac ;p
[05:30] <bulmer> twoshadetod: well as you have said per the result of iwlist wlan0 scan  it cant scan..the gui has this command behind it
[05:31] <scorbu> Falstius , I've tried everything mentionned in this guide but it still doesnt work :
[05:31] <twoshadetod> bulmer, netstumbler in doze can "scan" I'd hate to get into symantics about the word or compaire ubuntu to windows just wanted the same functionality
[05:31] <RudyValencia> i may have to compile it
[05:31] <Quingin> it locks the whole system nothing will respond. i have gone through this process like 10 times and its right after it loads the restricted drivers.
[05:31] <twoshadetod> however that is worded.
[05:31] <Falstius> scorbu: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin?
[05:31] <RudyValencia> but I hope not
[05:32] <Quingin> it just got to that state and i tried the alt+f1 and alt+f2 an nothing
[05:32] <scorbu> Falstius never used pastebin before , will try :)
[05:32] <bulmer> twoshadetod: okay, you do what you wish..am telling you whats behind that command
[05:32] <Justi1> if I enable 'timed login', do I also need to enable auto-login?
[05:32] <twoshadetod> bulmer, what is a command to display what wlan0 is
[05:32] <bulmer> twoshadetod: man iwlist
[05:32] <Falstius> Quingin: you can give boot options to use a different display driver such as framebuffer (fb)
[05:33] <scorbu> Falstius it's posted ...
[05:33] <twoshadetod> bulmer, yeah i think it's not wlan0 on my machien
[05:33] <Falstius> Quingin: you'll have to check the help at the boot menu or do a google search for details (I don't know the exact syntax)
[05:33] <twoshadetod> might be why it's not "supported" but thanks
[05:33] <GamingX> !cedega|
[05:33] <ubotu> : cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:33] <mzuverink> RudyValencia, That was the correct location, thanks again!
[05:33] <pawan> hi
[05:33] <pawan> !hi
[05:33] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:33] <Quingin> ok you will have to forgive me i am new to linux as a whole i know how to get in to give it the different options but how would i do that specifically?
[05:33] <Falstius> scorbu: you need to give us the link :)
[05:33] <CheeseGardener> does linux have a defragmenter?
[05:33] <bulmer> twoshadetod: okay then use the name your nic card is recognized as
[05:33] <blind> I just got my comcast hooked up, and I have apache running, but for some reason people can't connect to me. I'm not connected to a router, so I shouldn't have to worry about ports, right?
[05:33] <Quingin> ok thanks
[05:33] <CheeseGardener> to defrag NTFS or other drive types?
[05:33] <krammer_> how do i know if i have 3 d
[05:33] <CheeseGardener> other than EXT3?
[05:33] <scorbu> Falstius,  Sorry , http://pastebin.com/m5d53a89d :)
[05:34] <faileas> CheeseGardener: linux dosen't have a defragger
[05:34] <Justi1> !timed login
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timed login - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Justi1> !auto login
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auto login - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <bruenig> Justi1, just try it
[05:34] <CheeseGardener> ok
[05:35] <kousotu> !autologin
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autologin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <bruenig> Justi1, set the time for something short, don't enable auto login, and see
[05:35] <kousotu> lol
[05:35] <bruenig> Justi1, then do the opposite
[05:35] <CheeseGardener> then I'm switching my NTFS drive to EXT3, so it doesn't fragment
[05:35] <Justi1> bruenig: I have downloads so ill do it when they are done
[05:35] <CheeseGardener> Otherwise, if I ever get rid of windows, I can't defrag it.
[05:35] <blind> I just got my comcast hooked up, and I have apache running, but for some reason people can't connect to me. I'm not connected to a router, so I shouldn't have to worry about ports, right?
[05:35] <twoshadetod> bulmer, yeah you were right using the other name it shows one , my neighbors but not mine, windows shows neighors and mine
[05:35] <z0rz> I can't open terminal.  It says  "Starting Terminal..." in the taskbar, and then closes without displaying an error. I just enabled the nvidia "restricted driver", did a full system update, and configured dual screens (seperate X screens).  And yes I have both monitors open and it's on neither.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:35] <faileas> blind: does your ISP block port 80?
[05:35] <john> back
[05:36] <GamingX> john:find anything?
[05:36] <twoshadetod> bulmer, mine is also on chan 7 and neighbors chan 6 if this makes a diff, maybe there is a scan that scans all channels if default doesn't?
[05:36] <Falstius> scorbu: 1280x1024 should be an option in the system->preferences->Screen Resolution menu
[05:36] <blind> faileas: I had comcast previously and they didn't.. things like that don't change from region to region, do they?
[05:36] <faileas> donno
[05:36] <scorbu> Falstius It is not ...
[05:36] <faileas> but its worth a try trying to open another port and seeing
[05:36] <MasterShrek> blind, can you loopback connect to your apache?
[05:36] <Falstius> twoshadetod: if your neighbor uses 6, you should use 1 or 11.
[05:36] <scorbu> Falstius I really dont know what's goin on :S
[05:37] <blind> MasterShrek: yes
[05:37] <krammer_> how do know if i have 3 capabilities
[05:37] <john> GamingX: the link you sent provided the info i needed. it seems ntfs-config wasn't identifying my ntfs partitions, i had to go to some config file and give it some info about them. then i ran ntfs-config again and the checkbox wasn't disabled, and checked. now i'm gonna try it just to be sure...
[05:37] <bulmer> twoshadetod: iwlist with scan option will scan all channels...make sure your AP is broadcasting its essid
[05:37] <Pelo> scorbu,  did  faileas  have you edit your xorg.conf file to add the extra resolutions you want ?
[05:37] <Falstius> scorbu: maybe remove the option for Depth 32 (it isn't legal anyway)
[05:37] <faileas> pelo: er, my ubuntu installs are without X ;p
[05:37] <twoshadetod> Falstius, I'll change it when I get in
[05:38] <scorbu> Falstius I added it myself cause nvidia-settings was reporting I was at depth 32 :/ I will try to remove it but I doubt it will help
[05:38] <MasterShrek> blind, then its probably comcast blocking it
[05:38] <Falstius> twoshadetod: 1,6,11 are the only channels that don't overlap :)
[05:38] <twoshadetod> bulmer, I don't know if it is, I hope I dont have to get into it before accessing it wirelessly, do you know if i can go to windows and record that info and sort of manually make it try to find it by that?
[05:38] <scorbu> Falstius : ctrl-alt-bkspc brb
[05:38] <blind> hm.
[05:39] <Quingin> ok with the boot issue i have tried booting in safe graphics mode and it still messes up im still looking for a way to give it different display driver options but would that be it if it hangs in the same place in safe graphics mode?
[05:39] <bulmer> twoshadetod: you can try..most likely it has a web interface to configure
[05:39] <twoshadetod> bulmer, yes it does, what I mean is if I "knew" the essid could I conncet even if it isn't shown by ubuntu during a scan?
[05:39] <scorbu> Falstius, it failed
[05:39] <CheeseGardener> Other than the file system, does EXT3 call up files faster than NTFS???
[05:39] <john> GamingX: nah, still read only. what if i were to remount the partitions?
[05:40] <bulmer> twoshadetod: yes you can connect to it if you knew the essid ID
[05:40] <GamingX> john:try it...
[05:40] <john> GamingX: how?
[05:40] <izanbardprince> I prefer the JFS file system
[05:40] <z0rz> Anyone?
[05:40] <twoshadetod> bulmer, do you know what command I'd be after for that?
[05:40] <izanbardprince> very fast, extremely low CPU usage
[05:40] <GamingX> john: try unchecking the box and rechecking it....
[05:40] <bulmer> twoshadetod: actually you dont need to scan..just connect to it
[05:40] <Pelo> z0rz,  anyone what ?
[05:40] <z0rz> I can't open terminal.  It says  "Starting Terminal..." in the taskbar, and then closes without displaying an error. I just enabled the nvidia "restricted driver", did a full system update, and configured dual screens (seperate X screens).  And yes I have both monitors open and it's on neither.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:40] <john> GamingX: to enable write support?
[05:40] <Falstius> scorbu: failed as in, it didn't help or that x11 wouldn't start?
[05:41] <scorbu> Falstius , It didnt help
[05:41] <GamingX> john: yeah, it might help....
[05:42] <Pelo> z0rz,  try this   alt-f2 type xterm ,  that is another terminal,   try starting gnome-terminal from there to see the error msg to know why it is not opening,   also you can use xterm to perform the tasks you need
[05:42] <john> GamingX: wow. i got this error
[05:43] <z0rz> I removed the nvidia drivers and now terminal works fine..
[05:43] <GamingX> john: what error?
[05:43] <assasukasse> hi all, there is a pc i use mainly with ssh, and only occasionally as a desktop, it has ubuntu, it there a way to make it run like "server" mode and when i need restart gdm?
[05:43] <john> GamingX: Mounting /media/disk failed. $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action:    Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable    device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows    taskbar notification area before disconnecting it. Or    Run ntfsfix version 1.13.1 on Linux unless you have Vista. Or
[05:43] <john> Mount the NTFS volume with the 'ro' option in read-only mode.
[05:44] <john> error occured for both partitions
[05:44] <Pelo> assasukasse,  yes there is ,  but I personnaly donT' know how,  you could check the forum or wait for someone else in here to answer your quesiton
[05:44] <Lucios> hi
[05:44] <Lucios> how make extract bin file?
[05:45] <john> so, yah... i guess the option is that ntfsfix thing
[05:45] <assasukasse> thanks Pelo
[05:45] <z0rz> assasukasse: Basically you just want the windows manager to not auto start
[05:45] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[05:45] <Lucios> it's not iso image
[05:45] <bulmer> assasukasse: what do you meant by like "server" ?
[05:45] <Pelo> Lucios,   select thefile  right click , extract here
[05:45] <GamingX> john: I kept getting these errors, I think you can try restarting your pc, reboot windows shut it down cleanly and then restarted Ubuntu, It helped.....
[05:45] <Pelo> Lucios,  are you sure it is an archive ? some bin files are executables
[05:45] <assasukasse> bulmer: z0rz: i want it to run on minimal services and w/o windows manager..
[05:46] <Lucios> i think it's execute
[05:46] <khermans> is youtube having issues?
[05:46] <GamingX> john: On the other hand ntfsfix might work, Ive never tried it...
[05:46] <scorbu> Falstius, Are you out of ideas too ?
[05:46] <CheeseGardener> Just a quick question:  When you fsck a EXT3 file system, it will check the journaling to make sure nothing is fragmented, and if something is fragmented, it will fix this fragmentation???
[05:46] <GamingX> !ntfsfix|
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <Kousotu> !es
[05:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:46] <bulmer> assasukasse: what do you consider minimum services btw?
[05:46] <z0rz> assasukasse: right.. I think turnign off the autostart windows manager should be enough
[05:46] <Pelo> Lucios,   in the terminal , cd to the file folder,     sudo  ./filenname.bin
[05:46] <john> GamingX: does it matter that i was once dual booting vista and xp? then i replaced vista with ubuntu... although it still uses vista's boot loader once i tell grub to go to it?
[05:47] <Falstius> scorbu: yeah ... can't think of anything aside from digging through logs to find errors.
[05:47] <scorbu> !! Good idea :D
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good idea :d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <crowley1027> !spanish
[05:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:47] <Lucios> Pelo: sudo: ./LinuxInstaller.bin: command not found
[05:47] <assasukasse> bulmer: everything that is not directly needed to run ssh (nautilus, all the automount features and so on)
[05:47] <Pelo> Lucios,  are you in the correct folder ?
[05:47] <Lucios> yes
[05:48] <assasukasse> z0rz: simply sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[05:48] <GamingX> john: Tell you what, i did exactly the samething, I formatted the drive containing vista and I was left with two bootloaders....do you have the same thing?
[05:48] <CheeseGardener> Just a quick question:  When you fsck a EXT3 file system, it will check the journaling to make sure nothing is fragmented, and if something is fragmented, it will fix this fragmentation???
[05:48] <Pelo> Lucios,  is the file allowed to execute ? permission wise ?   sudo chmod 755 filename.bin
[05:48] <john> GamingX: yes, i do.
[05:48] <zerokill88> how do i check if my computer is a i386?
[05:48] <assasukasse> CheeseGardener: the only fs that has an live defragmenter is xfs
[05:48] <Pelo> zerokill88,  what is your computer's cpu ?
[05:49] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[05:49] <Lucios> Pelo: done,thanks
[05:49] <Pelo> Lucios,  you're welcome
[05:49] <john> GamingX: i tried typing ntfsfix in the terminal, it said it's not installed and to use "apt-get install ntfsprogs" to install it. so i did. then i ran the command again and this time it gave me usage instructions - essentially just to "ntfsfix dev/hda1" - then it did some stuff, including clean that log file.
[05:49] <darkshiryu> hello someone can tell me a player that support rmvb video format?
[05:49] <zerokill88> Pelo architecture
[05:49] <XiXaQ> is there an easy way to scan all files in a users home for the users username? That is, if my user is named guest001, I want to identify all references to that phrase in all documents, so that I can fix something for skel.
[05:49] <GamingX> john: try enabling the checkbox now....
[05:50] <scorbu> Falstius, Ok I found something , (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x1024"; removing.
[05:50] <Pelo> zerokill88,  celeron athlon,  pentium 4 ...
[05:50] <zerokill88> intel centrino duo
[05:50] <darkshiryu> i tried with some but nothing works
[05:50] <zerokill88> pelo intel centrino duo, is there a command i can use to check
[05:50] <bulmer> assasukasse: i believe you can remove all the S99xdm in /etc/rcN.d/   where N is 2-5
[05:50] <Pelo> zerokill88,  isn't that a 64 bit chip ?
[05:51] <zerokill88> pelo i have no idea
[05:51] <Falstius> scorbu: it might be a problem with the refresh rates your monitor is reporting ...
[05:51] <zerokill88> pelo how does the livecd tell of ubuntu, what does it installed itslf as
[05:51] <Pelo> zerokill88,  I think it is ,   x86 should work on it no problem
[05:51] <marginoferror> Hmm, what a bizarre bug
[05:51] <assasukasse> bullgard4: can't i make for example an init4 that doesn't have graph mode and init5 that has it?
[05:51] <marginoferror> In Gutsy's xchat, typing the wrong thing in preferences
[05:51] <assasukasse> it was like this in kanotix
[05:51] <Pelo> zerokill88,   did you install the x86  cd or the amd 64 cd ?
[05:51] <marginoferror> Can cause keyboard input to stop working for xchat altogether
[05:52] <JKirk_> help... can anyone tell me how to get to a command prompt in ubuntu so that I can manually install the NVidia driver?  I'm using Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4 and I can't seem to boot into cmd line :(
[05:52] <aum> hi - can anyone get to www.youtube.com? seems to be down for me - suspect
[05:52] <scorbu> Falstius, If so , how can I fix it ?
[05:52] <aum> suspect a DDoS attack
[05:52] <john> GamingX: sigh. it REALLY wants me to boot into Windows. now it said the partition is schedualed for a check and i have to boot into windows TWICE or run some other linux command. now i'm too curious to see if my windows is messed up. i'm gonna go check it out. i'll be back in 5 minutes. thanks for your help, btw.
[05:52] <Lucios> Pelo: http://pastebin.com/m577ab42b
[05:52] <marginoferror> aum, down for me too
[05:52] <Pelo> Lucios,  what is that ?
[05:52] <zerokill88> pelo i ahve no idea, the cd came with my linux mag
[05:52] <Pelo> zerokill88, read the cd lable
[05:52] <JKirk_> anyone?
[05:52] <bulmer> JKirk_: ctrl+alt+F1 to F6
[05:52] <GamingX> john: Talk to me later I will also tell you how to remove the 2nd bootloader....
[05:53] <marginoferror> JKirk_: What is Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4?
[05:53] <zerokill88> pelo nothing for that
[05:53] <JKirk_> then I can do a kill process on X?
[05:53] <john> GamingX: cool, i'll be back soon
[05:53] <zerokill88> pelo or the case
[05:53] <Lucios> Pelo: extract other .bin
[05:53] <JKirk_> marginoferror, you serious?  it ROCKS!
[05:53] <Falstius> scorbu: the nvidia driver gives some options for ignoring that information from your monitor.
[05:53] <JKirk_> has a TON of stuff already built in and compiz fusion and other stuff... :)
[05:53] <marginoferror> JKirk_: I'm serious, I've never heard of "Ultimate".
[05:53] <Pelo> Lucios,  that file seems to be corrupt you need to dl it again , taht's all I can get from taht
[05:53] <Falstius> scorbu: you can check the readme file (its on your system somewhere or google will bring it up)
[05:53] <Traeumt> hi all
[05:53] <JKirk_> it's not official ubunut
[05:53] <Lustblader> !grub
[05:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:53] <JKirk_> has a LOT of great stuff in it though!
[05:54] <marginoferror> IC
[05:54] <z0rz> assasukasse: System > Administartion > Preferences > Uncheck GDM then just use startx when youw ant to use gnmome
[05:54] <Traeumt> Can i ask some help please ?
[05:54] <Traeumt> How can i log in root account ?
[05:54] <JKirk_> gonna try the cmd prmpt now...thanks
[05:54] <marginoferror> Hmm, built off of Feisty I see
[05:54] <Traeumt> It says u cant log root from this screne
[05:54] <marginoferror> Traeumt, you don't log into root directly in Ubuntu
[05:54] <Pelo> JKirk_,  ubuntu ultimate ed is jsut someone who make a repack of ubuntu with a few changes to the theme and a butload of progs in the default install you donT' realy need and can get easily enough if you install the legitimate ubuntu
[05:54] <marginoferror> Instead, you use "sudo"
[05:54] <Quingin> hmmm
[05:55] <Lucios> Pelo: already chmod 755 and right pasth http://pastebin.com/m3c9a592
[05:55] <Lustblader> max u can do is sudo -i
[05:55] <marginoferror> But if you want to log in as root at the command line, try "sudo -s"
[05:55] <scorbu> Falstius, the nvidia driver's readme ?
[05:55] <assasukasse> thanks z0rz
[05:55] <albert> hi
[05:56] <Traeumt> Done thnx
[05:56] <Quingin> i have tried some of the options for older systems it is an older system but 512 ram and 1.33ghz processor should be fine. any other ideas? still googling for chaning the boot settings for the display driver
[05:56] <Pelo> Lucios,  what is this a file of ?
[05:56] <albert> Google bookmark won't work with my firefox.. does anyone know how to solve this problem??? i'm using feisty
[05:56] <Traeumt> I messing with a boot problem cause my bios doesnt get the linux boot its only getting windows boots
[05:56] <chowmeined> Why does it hang for like 10 minutes when I try to add a printer?
[05:56] <Falstius> scorbu: yeah
[05:56] <Traeumt> i ll try ms-sys right ?
[05:56] <Pelo> albert,  try asking in #firefox
[05:56] <albert> thanks pelo
[05:56] <albert> i'll try there
[05:57] <marginoferror> Hmm, how did you boot into Linux this time?
[05:57] <putergirl> .
[05:57] <Lustblader> Traeumt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 install grub
[05:57] <mrtechsupport> hi
[05:57] <mrtechsupport> i need help on installing beryl
[05:57] <Pelo> chowmeined,  10 minutes seems a little long but yes cups takes a bit long to load up
[05:57] <n0yd> it's not to hard
[05:58] <Pelo> mrtechsupport,   try asking in #beryl
[05:58] <summer_s4> mrtechsupport: how do you need help?
[05:58] <Traeumt> i have tried it 100 times today
[05:58] <n0yd> But i'd use compiz + compiz-fusion
[05:58] <chowmeined> Pelo: and the cpu usage goes up to 100%
[05:58] <n0yd> beryl is outdated
[05:58] <Traeumt> made setup (hd0)
[05:58] <chowmeined> Pelo: and I can't ever get pass the first page of the add printer wizard
[05:58] <n0yd> go to ubuntu-effects
[05:58] <chowmeined> past
[05:58] <Lustblader> then what happens Traeumt
[05:58] <Traeumt> tried everytng and its been 8 hours
[05:58] <Traeumt> nothng
[05:58] <mrtechsupport> no 1 is answering me at #beryl
[05:58] <Traeumt> iy just didint booot
[05:58] <marginoferror> chowmeined: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:58] <compuniversal> mrtechsupport install beryl from Synaptic
[05:58] <mrtechsupport> 7.04
[05:58] <Traeumt> it*
[05:58] <chowmeined> marginoferror: feisty
[05:58] <JKirk_> argggh....
[05:58] <n0yd> mrtechsupport, read link in #ubuntu-effects
[05:59] <mrtechsupport> how???
[05:59] <n0yd> and ask questions in there
[05:59] <JKirk_> I hit ctrl-alt-f1 and logged into a cmd prmpt
[05:59] <summer_s4> does anyone know how to get an emulation of an operating system from a disk?
[05:59] <marginoferror> Hmm
[05:59] <n0yd> Don't use beryl
[05:59] <JKirk_> I killed the x11 process...
[05:59] <n0yd> Its deprecated and dead
[05:59] <Lustblader> are u sure that u were using the right drive
[05:59] <JKirk_> then it just restarted itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:59] <compuniversal> let show yo how
[05:59] <mrtechsupport> well how do i install compiz fusion
[05:59] <JKirk_> how do I keep it from restarting?
[05:59] <n0yd> read the wiki
[05:59] <mrtechsupport> if i cant use beryl, how do i install compiz fusion
[05:59] <bulmer> JKirk_: they are daemons meant to restart if killed
[05:59] <n0yd> !wiki composite
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <n0yd> argh
[05:59] <Pelo> chowmeined,  I'm adding a printer rigth now, ( not realy but to test)  , cpu is as 100% while the database is loading ,  and ti takes a while, just be patient try turning off some other stuff to help reduce the load if you hve a lot of stuff running, could be a problem with your cmputer if you ar low on resources
[05:59] <JKirk_> bulmer, any idea which ones to kill off?
[05:59] <Traeumt> Can anybody help me about ms sys here ?
[06:00] <bulmer> JKirk_: for what services?
[06:00] <chowmeined> Pelo: i have amd 3200+ and 1GB of ram
[06:00] <summer_s4> does anyone know were to get the a4000 printer drivers?
[06:00] <JKirk_> so that it doesn't restart x
[06:00] <n0yd> mrtechsupport, No offense, but try reading the wiki before asking basic questions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[06:00] <n0yd> It's a pet peeve of mine. :)
[06:00] <chowmeined> Pelo: and im only using about 400MB
[06:00] <bulmer> JKirk_: : i believe you can remove all the S99xdm in /etc/rcN.d/   where N is 2-5
[06:00] <JKirk_> i need to install my nvidia drivers and the built-in loader doesn't work
[06:00] <Lustblader> Traeumt: try http://www.geocities.com/lode_leroy/grubinstall/  grub for windows
[06:00] <mrtechsupport> just help me here
[06:00] <Pelo> chowmeined,  I don'T know then , I'm just brain storming
[06:00] <mrtechsupport> widnows seems faster than ubuntu
[06:00] <n0yd> You can follow the directions in the wiki.
[06:00] <bulmer> JKirk_: if its gdm you can try  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:01] <Lustblader> mrtechsupport: windows without blinds n desktop effects will be faster than ubuntu with beryl etc
[06:01] <bulmer> Traeumt: what did you do again?
[06:01] <summer_s4> does anyone know how to emulate windows xp on ubuntu without rebooting?
[06:01] <mrtechsupport> yes
[06:01] <mrtechsupport> vmware
[06:01] <sauvin> Um... LOL... ubuntu runs rings around windows on my puny little laptop.
[06:01] <bulmer> summer_s4: yes use vmware
[06:02] <mrtechsupport> i just got ubuntu today
[06:02] <bulmer> and then install xp on vmware
[06:02] <Pelo> sauvin,  lol, I read  ubuntu run rings around windows on my little pony
[06:02] <mrtechsupport> i loveeee windows, i dual boot
[06:02] <compuniversal> mrtechsupport what kind of video card u have?
[06:02] <Lustblader> summer_s4: WINE
[06:02] <Lustblader> !wine | summer_s4
[06:02] <ubotu> summer_s4: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:02] <mrtechsupport> ati radeom mobiley 7500, compiz works on it.
[06:02] <Traeumt> i am bored of windows but can get rid of it
[06:02] <sauvin> erm... j'ai PO de chevos...!
[06:03] <z0rz> Traeumt: Same here
[06:03] <Lustblader> Traeumt: just format ur c:// drive
[06:03] <z0rz> Vista is nice.. but I love ubuntu and os x
[06:03] <Traeumt> done everythng
[06:03] <Traeumt> now just using a ubuntu
[06:03] <compuniversal> you are ready have compiz install?
[06:03] <bulmer> Traeumt: then whats the problem?
[06:03] <Traeumt> i am not logged to windows atm typing grom ubuntu
[06:03] <sauvin> z0rz, I've heard vista has tons of hardware compatibility issues.
[06:03] <Lustblader> how did xp escape a c formatting?? impossible
[06:03] <defcon> vista isnt nice, its bloatware
[06:03] <mrtechsupport> the desktop effects on 7.04
[06:03] <Traeumt> problem is ubuntu cant boot without the damn cd
[06:03] <defcon> and it isnt open source
[06:03] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:04] <z0rz> sauvin: I've heard that about ubuntu too.. but so far it doesn't seem true
[06:04] <mrtechsupport> man i reallyyy want beryyllll some1 hook me up
[06:04] <Lustblader> Traeumt: so ur on live cd now?
[06:04] <CheeseGardener> Just a quick question:  When you fsck a EXT3 file system, it will check the journaling to make sure nothing is fragmented, and if something is fragmented, it will fix this fragmentation???
[06:04] <Traeumt> now live cd let me explain
[06:04] <bulmer> Traeumt: are you sure you installed it correctly?
[06:04] <summer_s4> does anyone know how to emulate fedora linux in ubuntu?
[06:04] <Traeumt> yeah
[06:04] <Pelo> mrtechsupport,  for help with beryl join #beryl
[06:04] <mrtechsupport> I am going to get rid of Ubuntu.
[06:04] <IdleOne> summer_s4, google for VirtualBox
[06:04] <Traeumt> i installed it and remove the cd i take this error"No boot devies found"
[06:04] <sauvin> I think you'll find that the Ubuntu folks will tend to be pretty responsive about bug reports. Hardware support might be a bit iffier because it depends on manufacturers' willingness to share details of their products' architectures and/or interfaces.
[06:05] <sauvin> "emulate"?
[06:05] <Traeumt> but when i put the cd on and choose first boot from hard disk
[06:05] <Traeumt> it boots on
[06:05] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[06:05] <CheeseGardener> Just a quick question:  When you fsck a EXT3 file system, it will check the journaling to make sure nothing is fragmented, and if something is fragmented, it will fix this fragmentation???
[06:05] <sauvin> Why do you want to emulate Fedora under Ubunty?
[06:05] <AmiDaniel_away> Traeumt: Did you perchance remove the disc from your boot oder in your bios
[06:05] <summer_s4> is ubuntu linux verson 2.4 or 2.6?
[06:05] <AmiDaniel_away> order*
[06:05] <bulmer> CheeseGardener: learn to be patient, dont keep repeating every 5 secs
[06:05] <bung0wa> is there a ubuntu built for G4, powerpc cpus?
[06:05] <thechris> krammer_: i normally look in lsmod for nvidia or fglrx
[06:05] <Lustblader> AmiDaniel_away: bingo!!!
[06:05] <sauvin> Linux apres-midi 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:05] <Traeumt> Done it amidaniel
[06:06] <sauvin> Looks like 2.6.mumble to me, summer_s4 .
[06:06] <AmiDaniel_away> Lustblader: Hrm?
[06:06] <Traeumt> it seem like its getting boot files from Hdd atm
[06:06] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: As far as I know, no.  fsck does not check for fragmentation.
[06:06] <Traeumt> but cant ..
[06:06] <CheeseGardener> how is it that EXT3 doesn't fragment then?
[06:06] <Lustblader> AmiDaniel_away: i think ur right.. he might have removed his HDD from the boot priority list
[06:06] <john> GamingX: back
[06:06] <wckdkl0wn> how do i refresh my desktop? i was playin a game in wine and now my screen is like really huge
[06:06] <Traeumt> nope i didnt lustblader
[06:06] <Traeumt> its at the 1st line
[06:06] <GamingX> john:did you do it?
[06:06] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: EXT3 is built to avoid the most common cases of fragmentation right from the start.  It should only get serious fragmentation in unusual circumstances
[06:07] <Lustblader> Traeumt: how many hard discs do u have?
[06:07] <AmiDaniel_away> Traeumt: So you're able to boot the drive?
[06:07] <Kousotu> CheeseGardener: Linux defragmets on the fly
[06:07] <Traeumt> just 1
[06:07] <CheeseGardener> on the fly?  what does that mean kousotsu????
[06:07] <marginoferror> Kousotu: It does? How?
[06:07] <Traeumt> 2 parts and 1 OS(ubuntu)
[06:07] <john> went into windows, it had to do a chkdsk. restarted and went back to windows. made sure it loaded fine and all
[06:07] <marginoferror> Kousotu: I know OS X does it but I've never seen it in Linux.
[06:07] <Kousotu> as you write to it
[06:07] <Traeumt> yeah i am able to boot it with a cd
[06:07] <GamingX> john:did you shut it down properly?
[06:07] <Traeumt> other time it says " no bootable device found restart bla bla"
[06:07] <marginoferror> Kousotu: Oh, I think you mean the same thing I meant.
[06:08] <Kousotu> lmao
[06:08] <john> yah
[06:08] <AmiDaniel_away> CheeseGardener: You won't need to defragment. The drive defragments as you write to it
[06:08] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[06:08] <CheeseGardener> Oh, nice :)
[06:08] <AmiDaniel_away> Or rather, it's not structured in a "fragmented" way like NTFS and FAT
[06:08] <GamingX> john:now try enabling it....
[06:08] <Lustblader> Traeumt: did u try reinstalling a fresh copy of ubuntu.. if it's not too much of a bother
[06:08] <AmiDaniel_away> Traeumt: What says that? Is it coming from grub?
[06:08] <tehk> so gutsy will be using traker as default! Meta data tags are going to be a great feature as default.
[06:08] <AmiDaniel_away> Or is it coming from your bios?
[06:08] <Traeumt> nope its coming from bios
[06:08] <sauvin> What are metadata tags?
[06:08] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: ext4, the next version, uses extents and is even better.  I'm not sure it's ready for common use, though.
[06:08] <Traeumt> and i have been re instalinng ubuntu since 12.00
[06:08] <Lustblader> !extents
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extents - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <AmiDaniel_away> Traeumt: What is the exact message?
[06:09] <Traeumt> its 7.08 here atm
[06:09] <sauvin> 23.09 here.
[06:09] <chowmeined> 9.09 here
[06:09] <bulmer> Trae: lets try something once the others are done..stay booted on liveCD
[06:09] <AmiDaniel_away> 22:09 here
[06:09] <Kousotu> 11:09 pm
[06:09] <z0rz> sauvin: Where you from?
[06:09] <CheeseGardener> can you update your drive to EXT3?  or will I need to reformat to do that?
[06:09] <Kousotu> lol
[06:09] <bulmer> Traeumt: lets try something once the others are done..stay booted on liveCD
[06:09] <sauvin> z0rz: Chicago.
[06:09] <chowmeined> what is this about?
[06:09] <Traeumt> Exact message is "system couldnt find a bootable device insert a bootable device
[06:09] <Traeumt> okey
[06:09] <z0rz> sauvin: Nice .. and you Kousotu
[06:09] <marginoferror> 12:09 here.  Should be in bed.
[06:09] <Traeumt> i ll go on to live cd now
[06:09] <Traeumt> brb
[06:09] <ferronica> How to play Video Format ----> NSV ??? in ubuntu fiesty fawn GNOME :(
[06:10] <Kousotu> sauvin: where in chicago?
[06:10] <z0rz> Oklahoma here..
[06:10] <Jawshie> Hi guys! I was wondering if anybody has any experience they would be willing to provide some help with Pandora FMS. I know this is Ubuntu channel but theres nobody in the Pandora one :'(
[06:10] <john> GamingX: i just got an error - the folder doesn't exist - but i can easily fix that.
[06:10] <sauvin> Kousotu, I'm not *in* Chicago, just within driving distance of it. I tell people "chicago" for the same reason I told people "detroit" even though I lived an hour north of it.
[06:10] <Lustblader> !nsv
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nsv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <Kousotu> z0rz: Indiana
[06:11] <Kousotu> near the ill border
[06:11] <sauvin> "ill", eh?
[06:11] <dgeorge> hey guys... im not sure by my system has slowed down for some reason
[06:11] <ferronica> How to play Video Format ----> NSV ??? in ubuntu fiesty fawn GNOME :(
[06:11] <dgeorge> there is a delay with my typing
[06:11] <Lustblader> ferronica: tried vlc??? it plays all formats i've ever come across
[06:11] <dgeorge> how can i check to see what is wrong
[06:11] <sauvin> I've never even heard of NSV
[06:11] <Kousotu> sauvin: Illinois
[06:12] <dgeorge> when i move a window around its delayed in moving
[06:12] <bulmer> dgeorge: maybe you dont have enuff memory left..
[06:12] <dgeorge> 1gb is not enough for linux?
[06:12] <tehk> Jawshie, sorry I have never used that web monitoring system. Is it a generic question, or 100% specific to that particular app?
[06:12] <Kousotu> sauvin: I'm like 20 mins from Chicago lol
[06:12] <Lustblader> or dgeorge maybe ur key-b has a delay in it
[06:12] <bulmer> dgeorge: on a terminal type this  ... ipcs
[06:12] <dgeorge> it was working fine a fwe days a go
[06:12] <ferronica> Lustblader: i tried to play with VLC but no luck, no video only voice :(
[06:12] <dgeorge> ok iwi ll do that now thanks
[06:12] <DJ_Ice> here
[06:12] <DJ_Ice> we go
[06:13] <Lustblader> ferronica: installed all the plugins? gtstreamer
[06:13] <sauvin> ferronica: http://www.binrev.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t18733.html
[06:13] <bulmer> dgeorge: some programs dont release memory when done..and you get stuck with less everytime they stop
[06:13] <ferronica> Lustblader: yes all
[06:13] <dgeorge> ok ih ave a lot things here . what am i looking for
[06:13] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[06:13] <Lustblader> dgeorge: go to prefs>keyboard
[06:13] <Jawshie> Ferronica: Nullsoft is claiming that the only player that supports it is Winamp and I think its windows only :(
[06:13] <bulmer> dgeorge: ones without dest on right column
[06:13] <sauvin> I have a stupid question to ask if you're getting picture but no sound: do you have the volume turned up?
[06:13] <john> GamingX: may i have that link you sent again?
[06:13] <dgeorge> they all have dest
[06:14] <summer_s4> i am installing virtual host and one problome turned up, how do i do the OK on the licence agreement?
[06:14] <GamingX> john:ok..one sec
[06:14] <dgeorge> bulmer what do i havet o do with them
[06:14] <bulmer> dgeorge: okay, the memory is not the issue..with those being dest status
[06:14] <AnRkey> summer_s4, try pushing tab or ctrl-O
[06:14] <XiXaQ> how come all users have access to all users homes and files by default? Doesn't that seem weird?
[06:15] <john> GamingX: nm, i found it in my history
[06:15] <derek_> I'm trying to get flgrx running for my ATI x1650 and having a bitch of a time getting it up.  flgrxinfo is giving me this error "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."  and it's saying the mesa driver is running.  Any ideas?
[06:15] <AnRkey> summer_s4, or Alt-O
[06:15] <dgeorge> ok, what else can i check
[06:15] <Lustblader> dgeorge: preferences>keyboard
[06:15] <bulmer> dgeorge: check for zombies too
[06:15] <Traeumt> Bulmer i am on live cd atm
[06:15] <summer_s4> anrkey: it keeps comming back to the licence agreement
[06:15] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[06:15] <nj786> hey i am new to KDE so can anybody tell me how to install beryl on here?
[06:16] <AnRkey> summer_s4, odd
[06:16] <GamingX> savvin:ferronica said she is getting voice but no picture....
[06:16] <Kousotu> what troans can Linux get?
[06:16] <AnRkey> summer_s4, u in a gnome-terminal or konsole?
[06:16] <Kousotu> if any?
[06:16] <dgeorge> how do i do that bulamer
[06:16] <summer_s4> anrkey: terminal
[06:16] <bulmer> Traeumt: okay..this is not a guaranteed fix..but we shall see... chroot /
[06:16] <AmiDaniel_away> summer_s4: I had this happen once before; never found a solution
[06:16] <ferronica> GamingX: yes right no video only voice
[06:16] <AmiDaniel_away> Mine was with a jdk-doc package
[06:17] <bulmer> Traeumt: are you chrooted now?
[06:17] <sauvin> ferronica, did you see the link I pasted?
[06:17] <dgeorge> like when i move a window around its delayed
[06:17] <Jawshie> Does anybody have experience installing Pandora FMS? I am having some problems...
[06:17] <Traeumt> 1 sec
[06:17] <AnRkey> summer_s4, in gnome terminal click edit and then keyboard shortcuts
[06:17] <AnRkey> then disable them
[06:17] <summer_s4> amidaniel_away: Telling me that you had the problome before dosn't do a thing to fix the problome
[06:17] <AmiDaniel_away> summer_s4: If you go through synaptic, I believe it will prompt you with a gui form of the license agreement
[06:17] <bulmer> dgeorge: try a reboot..see if it cures it
[06:17] <ferronica> sauvin: yes
[06:17] <Traeumt> Cant cause i am on live cd and dunno the
[06:17] <ferronica> sauvin: about Xine player
[06:17] <john> GamingX: it works!
[06:17] <Traeumt> root pass...
[06:17] <AnRkey> summer_s4, once u have disabled them try again
[06:17] <summer_s4> anrkey: one thing... i am using the "system admin" terminal
[06:18] <summer_s4> anrkey: there is no "edit" menu
[06:18] <AmiDaniel_away> summer_s4: I'm aware :) Try installing through synaptic instead of with apt-get
[06:18] <AnRkey> summer_s4, my bad, soz
[06:18] <dgeorge> ok doing that now... I have a question Im using the workspace function... is there any way to have those things load up on those workspaces after a reboot
[06:18] <bulmer> Traeumt: you just open up a terminal and try sudo su -
[06:18] <AnRkey> summer_s4, i can't think of a reason why you would not be able to ok the terms
[06:18] <john> now my only issue is that when it did the remounting... i don't see the two drives under the Computer menu. instead, i had to go straight to the partitions (such as /media/disk)
[06:18] <GamingX> john: are you able to write to it?
[06:18] <john> GamingX: yes, i am
[06:19] <bulmer> Traeumt: i cant recall on liveCD..you are root by default i believe
[06:19] <Traeumt> okey
[06:19] <GamingX> ok.. good for you
[06:19] <Traeumt> done that now i am on root bulmer
[06:19] <dgeorge> brb
[06:19] <summer_s4> i tried 83 clicking the ok, i tried alt-0, i tried alt-0-enter
[06:19] <bulmer> Traeumt: hang a few..am looking for my notes
[06:19] <Traeumt> okey
[06:19] <AmiDaniel_away> bulmer: No, you're not. But there's no root pass
[06:19] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[06:19] <AnRkey> bulmer, don't think it's root by default
[06:20] <Traeumt> okey guys calm down i got it :D
[06:20] <AnRkey> AmiDaniel_away, yeah it's sudo command then no pass correct?
[06:20] <Traeumt> used sudo su -
[06:20] <summer_s4> anrkey: i tried every trick i knew from windows and even some i recently learned about linux
[06:20] <john> GamingX: thanks again for the help with this
[06:20] <AmiDaniel_away> AnRkey: I believe so
[06:21] <AnRkey> summer_s4, sorry i could not help :(
[06:21] <GamingX> john: no problem, you want help with the bootloader problem....
[06:21] <bulmer> Traeumt: now cd /boot/grub
[06:21] <albertmk> Hello. I am using Ubuntu and I want to write/read/rename files from Windows XP partition. I already installed ntfs-config and ntfs-3g
[06:21] <john> GamingX: is it difficult to fix the bootloader?
[06:21] <albertmk> but I cant do anything!
[06:21] <summer_s4> anrkey: ahh rats rear. I need some sort of os emulater
[06:21] <GamingX> john: what exactly happens at the start?
[06:21] <albertmk> I want to rename some files from Windows XP by Ubuntu
[06:21] <Traeumt> there is no grub folder in boot
[06:22] <Kousotu> what troans can Linux get, if any?
[06:22] <Traeumt> Dont forget i am on live cd :)
[06:22] <bulmer> Traeumt: okay...umm what under /boot/  ?
[06:22] <john> GamingX: grub loads. the last menu in Grub is to send me to the "Windows Vista/Longhorn loader"
[06:22] <GamingX> john: so do you get another bootloader?
[06:22] <Lustblader> Traeumt:  then go to the boot folder on the partion that u installed ubuntu previously
[06:22] <Traeumt> these are written abi-2.6.20-15-generic             memtest86+.bin
[06:22] <Traeumt> config-2.6.20-15-generic          System.map-2.6.20-15-generic
[06:22] <Traeumt> initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic.bak  vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic
[06:22] <john> yah, i get the Vista boot loader.
[06:22] <bulmer> Lustblader: he has to mount that first though
[06:23] <john> again, vista's no longer on this system though
[06:23] <albertmk> I am using Ubuntu right now. I want to read/write/rename windows xp files. I already installed ntfs-config and ntfs-3g, but I cant do anything.
[06:23] <pHill> what is beryl svn? anyone?
[06:23] <bulmer> Traeumnt: you remember which partition that linux was installed on right? lets say /dev/hda1  then do   grub_install /dev/hda
[06:23] <Traeumt> okey
[06:24] <AmiDaniel_away> pHill: The unstable beryl release
[06:24] <bulmer> Traeumt: that command i gave you..is supposed to install grub into /dev/hda  mbr
[06:24] <GamingX> john: Download and install Vista Bootloader from http://www.vistabootpro.org/ and you can figure it out yourself or if not try this link http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about95844.html
[06:24] <krammer_> How do I know if I have 3d??
[06:24] <pHill> ami: so is it the new version?
[06:24] <pHill> or old?
[06:25] <summer_s4> i am ditching ubuntu for the times beings
[06:25] <albertmk> I am using Ubuntu right now. I want to read/write/rename windows xp files. I already installed ntfs-config and ntfs-3g, but I cant do anything.
[06:25] <bulmer> Traeumt: now try and reboot..remove the liveCD so it will go to your hdd during boot
[06:25] <GamingX> john:but you need to be in windows xp....
[06:25] <Jawshie> Kousotu: Let me try to explain this the best I can. I am by far not a security expert but from my experience and reading here it what I know:  Viruses on linux are rare and die off quickly due to the nature of linux and the way that user accounts and the kernel are set up. Most people run linux without an antivirus because they are virtually non-existant.
[06:25] <pHill> because i had 0.2.0 rc3
[06:25] <Jared> I went into gconf-editor and set custom icon for my gnome panel...where do I pu tthe icon at to get it to sho wup?
[06:25] <Jared> show up?*
[06:25] <Kousotu> !repete | albertmk
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Kousotu> !repeat | albertmk
[06:25] <dgeorge> hello all. the rest worked
[06:25] <ubotu> albertmk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:25] <john__> GamingX: it's me. i don't know what happened, got kicked from the chat for some reason...
[06:25] <dgeorge> why would I have to restart....
[06:25] <Traeumt> thats eem located in media/disk1 on live cd
[06:25] <Traeumt> i ll try that
[06:25] <bulmer> albertmk: you still have to mount your ntfs partition then you can manipulate its contents
[06:25] <albertmk> Kousotu, as well as you dont know the answer for my question :P
[06:25] <pHill> ami: so is it the new version?
[06:26] <summer_s4> does anyone know the fedora support channel?
[06:26] <jescis> no phill
[06:26] <GamingX> john_: Download and install Vista Bootloader from http://www.vistabootpro.org/ and you can figure it out yourself or if not try this link http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about95844.html
[06:26] <Traeumt> yay i am in grub folder atm
[06:26] <AmiDaniel_away> summer_s4: #fedora
[06:26] <GamingX> john_:but you need to be in windows xp....
[06:26] <jescis> lol
[06:26] <Kousotu> summer_s4 try ##linux
[06:26] <CheeseGardener> Can OSX read NTFS?
[06:26] <AnRkey> krammer_,  run this glxinfo | grep rendering
[06:26] <GamingX> As for you being kicked out I think you were using somebodies nick....
[06:26] <john__> GamingX: sorry, i didn't get any msgs you sent after i had asked my earlier question.
[06:27] <dgeorge> ok guys i now need a few things. first of all i need a cool background picture and a cool theme for my new ubuntu... can you suggest something
[06:27] <bulmer> Traeumt: now try and reboot..remove the liveCD so it will go to your hdd during boot
[06:27] <albertmk> bulmer, but it is already monted
[06:27] <albertmk> mounted
[06:27] <Kousotu> CheeseGardener: doubt it
[06:27] <bulmer> albertmk: mountd with read+write?
[06:27] <Jawshie> dgeorge: opendesktop.org and gnome-look.org
[06:27] <john__> GamingX: hmm... i guess "john" would be a little too common...
[06:28] <AnRkey> dgeorge, i can send you a picture of my dog for your background pic :D
[06:28] <Traeumt> -su: grub_install: command not found
[06:28] <Traeumt> -su: grub_install: command not found
[06:28] <Julie45> what is a good URL for a pastebin
[06:28] <GamingX> john_:you got my msgs?
[06:28] <Traeumt> ops sorry for typing twice
[06:28] <Traeumt> i take thir error bulmer
[06:28] <Frogzoo> !pastebin
[06:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:28] <bulmer> Traeumt: hang on..let me find that
[06:28] <Traeumt> okey
[06:28] <john__> GamingX: no, what were they?
[06:28] <GamingX> john_: Download and install Vista Bootloader from http://www.vistabootpro.org/ and you can figure it out yourself or if not try this link http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about95844.html
[06:29] <Skeet> ok  need some help
[06:29] <bulmer> Traeumt: try  /sbin/grub_install /dev/hda
[06:29] <greg-g> Q: What would make it so kaffeine can play DVDs but not Totem?  I have the libdcss and gstreamer-ugly installed.
[06:29] <dgeorge> i want i candy
[06:29] <AmiDaniel_away> greg-g: Do you have totem-xine installed?
[06:29] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know if OSX can read NTFS?
[06:29] <KrisWood> Hello everyone
[06:30] <AmiDaniel_away> greg-g: The totem streamer seems to work when you first load the dvd, but that's it
[06:30] <KrisWood> Yes OSX can read NTFS but cannot write to it reliably
[06:30] <Skeet> can someone help me
[06:30] <greg-g> AmiDaniel_away, I have the totem-gstreamer variant installed
[06:30] <Lustblader> !ask |skeet
[06:30] <ubotu> skeet: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:30] <Skeet> lol ok
[06:30] <Traeumt> /sbin/grub_install /dev/hda
[06:30] <Traeumt> nope its the same error bulmer
[06:31] <AmiDaniel_away> greg-g: I'd recommend isntalling totem-xine .. as I said, the streamer is a bit funky
[06:31] <Traeumt> /sbin/grub_install: No such file or directory
[06:31] <john__> GamingX: thanks, i was just reading the links you sent. i'm going to bookmark it and look into it another day
[06:31] <greg-g> AmiDaniel_away, but I can install the xine variant, I was going to, but it need to uninstall the gstreamer version to do that, and I was wanting to make the gstreamer version work
[06:31] <Flannel> Traeumt: grub-install
[06:31] <Skeet> whenevr i try to watch a movie or listen to music my screen truns dark and it wont play
[06:31] <greg-g> AmiDaniel_away, ok, thanks
[06:31] <pHill> owe that hurt!
[06:31] <bulmer> Traeumt: you have already chrooted to / right?
[06:31] <dgeorge> is there a theme manager
[06:31] <Traeumt> yes
[06:31] <KrisWood> Ok stupid question of the day: I've got an ubuntu computer running firestarter acting as the router for my network, everything works fine except starcraft over hamachi. My windows computers are not able to see anyone else's games on the hamachi network. I'm pretty sure it's my firewall settings, anyone got any ideas how to configure firestarter to be more friendly to Hamachi?
[06:31] <GamingX> john_:Thats all from, I have to go bye
[06:31] <albert> how do I edit my sources list?
[06:32] <john__> GamingX: later
[06:32] <bulmer> Traeumt: it is /sbin/grub-intall /dev/hda   its dash not underscore..my typo
[06:32] <bulmer> Traeumt: it is /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda   its dash not underscore..my typo
[06:32] <Xenguy> albert: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:32] <nj786> hey guys i just doownloaded this icon theme but it doesnt work
[06:32] <nj786> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LiNsta-icons?content=62759
[06:32] <nj786> andi  do not understand the directions it gives on the bottom
[06:32] <AnRkey> KrisWood, you need to ad an exclusion in for the Hamachi subnet that it's using
[06:32] <Traeumt> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[06:32] <albert> xenguy, thanks!
[06:32] <Traeumt> mate its in media/disk-1
[06:32] <Xenguy> albert: yw
[06:33] <KrisWood> AnRkey, sorry I have no idea what that means
[06:33] <Traeumt> should i try that ?
[06:33] <bulmer> Traeumt: you have to mount your /dev/hda first
[06:33] <bulmer> cant write to it unless mounted..heh
[06:33] <KrisWood> AnRkey, do you mean I need to tell firestarter to let anything through that's on that subnet?
[06:33] <AnRkey> KrisWood, you need to tell Firestarter to be more chilled out about the hamachi network
[06:33] <KrisWood> ah ok
[06:33] <CheeseGardener> is NTFS a patented file system?
[06:34] <AnRkey> KrisWood, try only opening the ports u need
[06:34] <summer_s4> how do i make ubuntu look like the second part of this movie? http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ&mode=related&search=
[06:34] <Traeumt> Bulmer i see this error when i try it /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[06:34] <KrisWood> AnRkey, it was the word exclusion I was fuzzy on, thanks, I'll try that :D
[06:34] <sauvin> CheeseGardner: yes.
[06:34] <Xenguy> CheeseGardener: proprietary to M$
[06:34] <bulmer> Traeumt: fdisk -l  and tell us the results
[06:34] <CheeseGardener> Then why does the NTFS-3G site say it isn't patented in any country??
[06:35] <AnRkey> KrisWood, It does work though once  u add the exclusion, we jam cs 1.6 here allot :D
[06:35] <noway> I have ubuntu installed and THEN i installed XP and now XP is default at boot.  how do i reenable GRUB so ubuntu will be the default OS and i can choose XP if i need to
[06:35] <greg-g> AmiDaniel_away, just letting you know it works, thanks again
[06:35] <Traeumt> dev/sda2               1       19123   153605466    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[06:35] <Traeumt> /dev/sda5           10200       19123    71681998+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:35] <Traeumt> /dev/sda6               1        9726    78124000+  83  Linux
[06:35] <Traeumt> /dev/sda7            9727       10199     3799341   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:35] <john__> I have a 5 button mouse and would like to configure the extra 2 buttons. How can I do this?
[06:35] <AmiDaniel_away> greg-g: Glad to hear it :)
[06:36] <Jawshie> john__: how exactly do you want to configure them
[06:36] <astro76> !mouse | john__
[06:36] <ubotu> john__: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:36] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: Because it's not patented
[06:36] <astro76> !paste | Traeumt
[06:36] <ubotu> Traeumt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:36] <CheeseGardener> Oh, I thought you said it was patented flannel?
[06:36] <bulmer> Traeumt:  /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda     instead of hda as told before
[06:36] <Traeumt> sorry guys
[06:36] <chikita> hello, i cant get mplayerplug-in to work, i followed the steps of this site http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php#plugin, and when i got to the make section i got  just errors, help please
[06:37] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: I didn't, no
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> Oh... so it's legal to use NTFS-3G then?
[06:37] <pHill> anyone: beryl svn vs.  beryl 0.2.0 rc3 which is newest? or in development?
[06:37] <astro76> chikita, just install package mozilla-mplayer through ubuntu's repos
[06:37] <Flannel> pHill: compiz-fusion is the newest version.  beryl is dead (well, recombined)
[06:37] <nj786> can anybody help me out with my icon theme?
[06:38] <freakytallkid> evening all
[06:38] <summer_s4> how do i install apache 1.3, php 5.whatever and pg 7.4.3 on ubuntu?
[06:38] <Jawshie> CheeseGardener: The only reason you would have an ntfs partition is because you own a piece of Microsoft code known as Windows ... you bought rights to use NTFS
[06:38] <sauvin> CheeseGardener, I look at it this way: the fuel pump in my car is patented, too, but that doesn't stop me from using a screwdriver on it.
[06:38] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: yeah, that's why it's in universe and not multiverse
[06:38] <pHill> flannel: where do i get it and how to install?
[06:38] <untung> hello,
[06:38] <john__> astro76: thanks, that was exactly what i was looking for.
[06:38] <KrisWood> AnRkey, ok I added the entire hamachi subnet to the section "Allow connections from host" in firestarter which I assume is a very insecure thing to do but it still didn't work
[06:38] <freakytallkid> hahahahahahahahahahahahahaah @ sauvin
[06:38] <untung> does anyone have setup ubuntu as media center?
[06:38] <freakytallkid> good on ya
[06:38] <greg-g> Q: Would there be some reason why my DVD does not show up on the desktop like other discs in my drive?  This only happens for DVDs (store bought and burned).  Audio cds, blank cd/dvds all work as expected.
[06:38] <KrisWood> AnRkey, is that not what you meant to do?
[06:39] <john__> !keyboard | john__
[06:39] <pHill> flannel: where do i get it and how to install?
[06:39] <noway> If i have Ubuntu and then installed XP.  How do i turn grub back on as the boot manager so that ubuntu will boot instead of XP
[06:39] <Jawshie> greg-g: Are you sure it is in a dvd drive? :)
[06:39] <P235> Hi, in http://www.linuxcommand.org/lts0070.php#file_permissions the author teaches users the chmod command with the use of binary octals.  Is there a trick I can use to remember the octals and the corresponding binary?
[06:39] <AnRkey> KrisWood, couple of questions first
[06:39] <chowmeined> this is such crap
[06:39] <freakytallkid> greag-g u need to get Xine, worked for me
[06:39] <greg-g> Jawshie, :) yes
[06:39] <chowmeined> does cups work for anyone else?
[06:39] <KrisWood> ok
[06:39] <AnRkey> KrisWood, lets pm
[06:39] <greg-g> freakytallkid, I have it installed
[06:39] <chikita> asreo76, i already got mplayer fully working, im refering to the mplayerplug-in for firefox
[06:39] <Jawshie> greg-g: Crap... I cant help sorry :(
[06:39] <bulmer> Traeumt: now try and reboot..remove the liveCD so it will go to your hdd during boot
[06:39] <sauvin> Playing the DVD isn't greg's problem: getting it to show up as on icon on his desktop is.
[06:39] <nj786> can aybody help me with a icon theme problem?
[06:39] <astro76> !info mozilla-mplayer | chikita
[06:39] <greg-g> freakytallkid, I can play back the dvd, just not "see it" on my desktop.
[06:39] <ubotu> chikita: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31+main-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 477 kB, installed size 1636 kB
[06:39] <Traeumt> Bulmer i still take Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device this error :(
[06:39] <Flannel> pHill: There are a number of threads on the forums, suggest you look there.  Its a fast moving target, forums are probably your best bet.  Or #ubuntu-effects (check that room, see if it's in the topic)
[06:40] <freakytallkid> greg-g oh ok, sorry cant help there
[06:40] <greg-g> freakytallkid, thanks
[06:40] <SineFato> Question: I just installed full ubuntu and I'm still in live, are all my settings gonna be gone when i boot onto the HDD?
[06:40] <sauvin> Greg, is it possible you clicked on "do nothing forever" for that type of media on your desktop at one time?
[06:40] <CheeseGardener> sauvin and Flannel, so does that mean it isn't contested?  Microsoft doesn't care about NTFS-3G?
[06:40] <freakytallkid> greag-g np
[06:40] <Flannel> SineFato: yes
[06:40] <nj786> can aybody help me with a icon theme problem?
[06:40] <greg-g> sauvin, hrm... I don't THINK so
[06:40] <SineFato> flannel: cool thanks
[06:40] <bulmer> Traeumt: that error during boot right?
[06:40] <greg-g> sauvin, but it should still show up on my desktop as an icon
[06:40] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: well, they do care.  They can't do anything about it though.
[06:40] <sauvin> Oh, Microsoft cares, believe me. I'm sure Ford cares about my taking a screwdriver to my fuel pump, too, but there's bugger all they can do about it.
[06:40] <airstrike> hi
[06:40] <nj786> can aybody help me with a icon theme problem?
[06:41] <greg-g> sauvin, just not automatically play/open file browser/whatever
[06:41] <Traeumt> nope after i typed grub-install
[06:41] <astro76> john__, if you're interested here's what I added to my imwheelrc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32724/
[06:41] <freakytallkid> savin: the way i see it, I bought it, its MINE
[06:41] <CheeseGardener> Oh ok.  So will they ever stop NTFS-3G you think?
[06:41] <airstrike> can anyone help me with compiz-fusion? apparently my settings aren't being saved.. i keep having to change everything everytime i open it
[06:41] <Flannel> sauvin: NTFS isn't patented.
[06:41] <sauvin> freakytallkid, only to an extent. You can't reverse-engineer it, and you can't sell it.
[06:41] <P235> Hi, in http://www.linuxcommand.org/lts0070.php#file_permissions the author teaches users the chmod command with the use of binary octals.  Is there a trick I can use to remember the octals and the corresponding binary?  i.e. chmod 700 some_file, chmod 755 some_file?
[06:41] <sauvin> Flannel: you're certain? I could have sworn I'd read somewhere...
[06:41] <macogw> airstrike: #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <astro76> P235, do you know binary?
[06:42] <nj786> can aybody help me with a icon theme problem?
[06:42] <Xenguy> P235: 4 = read ; 2 = write ; 1 = execute
[06:42] <P235> astro76, not really
[06:42] <P235> Xenguy, thanks!
[06:42] <Flannel> P235: There is no binary.  It's all octal.  You don't /need/ to know octal though, since you can use the letters (oga +- rws)
[06:42] <bulmer> lolz
[06:42] <Xenguy> P235: somehow you just memorize that
[06:42] <Wintersmith> Hello all. Anyone know of a good site that walks through automatically launching an application at gnome startup? Bonus points if you know of a way to assign it to a specific workspace.
[06:42] <DerangedDingo> nj786: i might be able to
[06:43] <Flannel> !startup | Wintersmith
[06:43] <ubotu> Wintersmith: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[06:43] <greg-g> sauvin, any other ideas other than the "do nothing again" option?
[06:43] <darodrig> Hello all
[06:43] <Wintersmith> I see. Thank you!
[06:43] <P235> Xenguy, that's much easier than wondering how the octals match up with the binary.
[06:43] <macogw> Wintersmith: devilspie to put it on a specific workspace
[06:43] <freakytallkid> just a quick question, can anyone quickly sum up thin-clients?
[06:43] <MSG4> Hi . I having problem with my ubuntu loading it takes longer to load even with core 2 duo
[06:43] <Xenguy> P235: as a non-mathematician, I just learn it rote ;-)
[06:43] <sauvin> greg-g, what desktop do you run?
[06:43] <chowmeined> freakytallkid: they are clients.. and they are thin
[06:43] <macogw> freakytallkid: no hard drive.  boots over a network from a server
[06:43] <greg-g> sauvin, gnome
[06:43] <CheeseGardener> Flannel, if microsoft does care about NTFS-3G, why don't they bother to fight it?  Maybe they don't want to bother fighting something so small?
[06:43] <Flannel> Wintersmith: as for workspace, you'll need to use something like devilspie: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/25/how-to-set-default-workspace-size-and-window-effects-in-gnome/
[06:44] <MSG4> When i boot to ubuntu screen it takes so long
[06:44] <Traeumt> Bulmer  shall i try installing ubuntu on a different file system rather than ext3
[06:44] <sauvin> You might want to put that question to #gnome, then...
[06:44] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: because they have no legal grounds to fight it.
[06:44] <nj786> DerangedDingo: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LiNsta-icons?content=62759
[06:44] <greg-g> sauvin, k
[06:44] <bulmer> Traeumt: perhaps you can tell us what you did during install?
[06:44] <CheeseGardener> I see.  Alright.
[06:44] <freakytallkid> macogw: no HDD? even though the client has some heavy programs?
[06:44] <darodrig> I am trying to get to work a SSL vpn which start a java applet but I had some problem with the java applet connecting to SSL, or to the session manager...not clear
[06:44] <Traeumt> its ext3
[06:44] <Traeumt> atm
[06:44] <nj786> DerangedDingo: im trying to install that but it wont work and i dont understand his intructions on the bottom
[06:44] <Traeumt> but i thnk of trying another file system
[06:45] <Traeumt> maybe its my hardware i dunno well but i can try that ntfs-3g one ?
[06:45] <macogw> freakytallkid: yeah you run them from the server. i guess you could put one to store files, but why?
[06:45] <CheeseGardener> So why wouldn't they have legal grounds??? just curious flannel....
[06:45] <P235> Xenguy, the idea of learning math to fix user permissions worried me a little, hahaha
[06:45] <freakytallkid> maco: oh ok
[06:45] <macogw> CheeseGardener: no patent
[06:45] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: Lets move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:45] <bulmer> Traeumt: during install..did it not asked you where you want the grub to install? and you told it to install on /dev/sda right?
[06:45] <macogw> freakytallkid: i mean, itd be possible i assume, but no reason...
[06:45] <DerangedDingo> nj786: Download it, extract it, open your home folder in nautilus, hit Control + H, and move it to the folder called .icons
[06:45] <Xenguy> P235: stick with whatever works in this business I say :-)
[06:45] <CheeseGardener> ok flannel
[06:45] <CheeseGardener> I'll go there
[06:46] <chowmeined> why is cups broken?
[06:46] <DerangedDingo> nj786: Then switch to it with System > Preferences > Theme
[06:46] <Tamale> can someone help me fix my ferocious fonts in firefox in feisty fawn for free?
[06:46] <el_isma> Hello! I need help. I want to bridge my ethernet iface with my wifi one. I'm following the howtos but it doesn't work and I can't spot what I'm doing wrong... Anyone has experience with this?
[06:46] <bulmer> Traeumt: you dont want to load a linux on a ntfs-3g...
[06:46] <Traeumt> nope bulmer it was set to (hd0) and i didnt change it
[06:46] <freakytallkid> maco: hahahahahaha i guess i shouldnt use thin clients over a 10mb hub then
[06:46] <nj786> DerangedDingo: but the file is not .targz
[06:46] <sauvin> bulmer, my ubuntu automagically mounts my ntfs partitions on boot.
[06:46] <sauvin> nj786, what is the file?
[06:47] <DerangedDingo> it's a .bz2
[06:47] <Tamale> can someone help me fix my ferociously fat fonts in firefox in feisty fawn for free?
[06:47] <Tamale> they are blurry and ugly and some aren't even anti-aliased
[06:47] <Traeumt> Bulmer i am re installing ubuntu right now :)
[06:47] <sauvin> then I'd do a tar -xvjf myfile.tar.bz2
[06:47] <bulmer> sauvin you have told your ntldr to find where your linux is right? not linux using an ntfs as the File system noh?
[06:47] <Traeumt> choosing the layout atm
[06:47] <nj786> sauvin: LiNsta_Icons_by_tiennou44.bz2
[06:47] <Superdaddy-o> hey guys when i try to install my nvidia drivers, it says that i dont have the headers
[06:47] <nj786> DerangedDingo: LiNsta_Icons_by_tiennou44.bz2
[06:47] <Superdaddy-o> however, i just downloaded the freaking things
[06:47] <sauvin> bulmer: rephrase. I couldn't parse that.'
[06:47] <Superdaddy-o> what is the deal?
[06:47] <summer_s4> tamale: it is the web sites problome not firefoxes
[06:47] <Traeumt> using manual partiong
[06:47] <Lustblader> john__: tell me how it's going
[06:48] <Tamale> summer_s4: but everything looks fine in edgy
[06:48] <Traeumt> removing all the partitions and making new one for root
[06:48] <Traeumt> and 4gb for swap okey ?
[06:48] <DerangedDingo> nj786: Just right click it on your desktop, and click "Extract Here". When it finishes, do it again
[06:48] <bulmer> sauvin your linux is not using ntfs-3g as the linux file system?
[06:48] <Lustblader> 1 gig is more than enough
[06:48] <Superdaddy-o> hey guys
[06:48] <astro76> Traeumt, way too much, how much ram do you have?
[06:48] <Superdaddy-o> im heaving kernell header probs
[06:48] <Superdaddy-o> any answers?
[06:48] <bulmer> Traeumt: way plenty..4gig? recommended twice your ram memory
[06:48] <macogw> Traeumt: whatever double your ram is
[06:48] <summer_s4> tamale: i don't have that problome.  What is your screen resolution set at?
[06:49] <sauvin> bulmer, I'm not aware that's even possible.
[06:49] <Traeumt> i got 1gb
[06:49] <Traeumt> 1024 ram atm
[06:49] <Tamale> summer_s4: 1680x1050
[06:49] <xerawx> Tamale: apt-get install restricted-extras?
[06:49] <Traeumt> should i lower the swap size ?
[06:49] <nj786> DerangedDingo: ok done now what?
[06:49] <chowmeined> has anyone ever printed with feisty?
[06:49] <astro76> Traeumt, 1GB swap would be more than enough
[06:49] <xerawx> i think that's the package.. i installed earlier for the microsoft TT fonts
[06:49] <DerangedDingo> nj786: Is it a regular folder?
[06:49] <macogw> Traeumt: 2gb is fine then
[06:49] <Traeumt> okey
[06:49] <peepsalot> does anyone here have the problem that Ctrl-Shift-Z makes pages look huge in firefox.  normally Ctrl-Shift-Z does a "Redo"
[06:49] <nj786> DerangedDingo: yes
[06:49] <Tamale> xerawx: I don't see that package
[06:49] <Superdaddy-o> anybody help a brothe out?
[06:49] <Jawshie> Heres a question for all... i'm curious to hear a lot of responses. What do you use with linux to monitor a network of servers, clients, and certain devices which you can not install software on (hardware routers)
[06:49] <bulmer> sauvin right...maybe i didnt get what you said about booting linux with ntfs...
[06:49] <summer_s4> tamale: i don't know.  i guess i can't help
[06:50] <macogw> Traeumt: and thats for hibernate.  in general, you wont use that much though. i think there's a way to use less than 2x and then set up a ramdisk for hibernate, but idk how
[06:50] <Traeumt> i am choosing Primary for type for the new partition right ?
[06:50] <DerangedDingo> nj786: Open your home folder in nautilus, and then hit Control + H. Move it to .icons, and switch to it with System > Preferences > Theme
[06:50] <Tamale> summer_s4: it's ok, no one has been able to so far
[06:50] <xerawx> Tamale: sorry, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:50] <bulmer> Jawshie: snmp
[06:50] <astro76> macogw, you only need 1x for hibernate
[06:50] <Tamale> xerawx: downloading and installing
[06:50] <bulmer> Jawshie: assuming those devices support snmp
[06:50] <Tamale> xerawx: it's looking for my disc
[06:50] <macogw> astro76: then why is 2x always recommended?
[06:50] <chowmeined> well cups is a piece of shit
[06:50] <Tamale> how can i point it to the web
[06:50] <summer_s4> tamale: if you are willing to download the package from firefox and put a link to your desktop i can help you at that.
[06:50] <Traeumt> Location of the new partition is begining (for root one)
[06:51] <Vitorious> Anyone know of a good PHP IDE that has FTP support? Id prefer not to install apache et al on my system. I remember using one that would upload instantly when I saved but cant for the life of me remember what it was called. Anyone have any ideas?
[06:51] <sauvin> Oh, no, what I meant was that when ubuntu wakes up, it automatically mounts my ntfs partitions.   Make firefox your active window, and hold control and rotate the middle rolling thing on your mouse
[06:52] <bulmer> Traeumt: dont you have windows also installed? you're dual booting right?
[06:52] <Traeumt> no supperdaddy :)
[06:52] <nj786> DerangedDingo: got it thanks
[06:52] <Traeumt> nope i just have linux atm
[06:52] <Jawshie> Bulmer: unfortunately not. I was trying to install Pandora FMS but was having some problems and was curious to what everybody else used. I am currently switching from a single windows box running some ping application that just pings the remote devices for connectivity (its for a WISP) and we assume everything is running well if its pingable and people dont complain to us!
[06:52] <Tamale> summer_s4: it's not a size problem
[06:52] <Traeumt> i removed the whole partitions
[06:52] <Traeumt> 10 sec ago
[06:52] <untung> hello, how can i create my own ubuntu distro?
[06:52] <Tamale> summer_s4: it's a font rendering problem
[06:52] <summer_s4> tamale: just try it
[06:52] <DerangedDingo> freakytallkid: It's a daemon, and set of drivers/etc that detects and runs printers in Unix and Linux
[06:52] <Traeumt> re installing ubuntu
[06:52] <Superdaddy-o> come
[06:52] <Tamale> summer_s4: yah, i know it makes it bigger :)
[06:52] <Superdaddy-o> someone help a brotha out
[06:52] <bulmer> Traeumt: okay..good luck
[06:52] <Tamale> summer_s4: here lemme post a screeny
[06:52] <summer_s4> tamale: rotate it the other way
[06:52] <Traeumt> just created a 158gb part for root and 2gb for swap
[06:52] <nj786> DerangedDingo: do you know alot about decorating desktops?
[06:53] <Traeumt> i choose primary for the type
[06:53] <Flannel> summer_s4: Whats wrong with the drivers that you can automatically install?
[06:53] <Flannel> Superdaddy-o, even
[06:53] <DerangedDingo> nj786: A good deal.. I like theming. I've made some contributions to Gnome Look myself
[06:53] <Traeumt> and begining for the location of the new partition am i right bulmer
[06:53] <DerangedDingo> nj786: Need any more help?
[06:53] <summer_s4> flannel: huh?  i don't know what you are talking about
[06:53] <Superdaddy-o> since when has there been automated driver software?
[06:53] <nj786> DerangedDingo: by any chance can u show me ur desktop?
[06:53] <xerawx> Tamale: i'm running Xubuntu so it might be a little different depending on your desktop setup, but I've got all 3 font smoothing options enabled in Fiesty under the "Settings > User Interface Settings" panel and fonts looks fine
[06:54] <Superdaddy-o> i would love to know because this crap wont find my new kernell headers
[06:54] <bulmer> Traeumt: correct
[06:54] <Tamale> xerawx: i'm afraid that didn't help firefox any :\
[06:54] <Flannel> Superdaddy-o: System > Administration > Restricted DEvices Manager
[06:54] <Traeumt> now
[06:54] <DerangedDingo> nj786: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/My+Desktop+%3A%29?content=62755
[06:54] <Superdaddy-o> it says my hardware doesnt need any restrited drivers
[06:55] <Traeumt> In advance options it asks "Device for boot loader installation" and it is (hd0) atm bulmer
[06:55] <shk> hi could anyone tell me if ubuntu has an active process manager or a startup configuration?
[06:55] <Tamale> http://uic.edu/~jbuss2/pics/ubuntu/fontsEdgy.png  <--- GOOD |  YUCK --> http://uic.edu/~jbuss2/pics/ubuntu/feistySans.png
[06:55] <bulmer> Traeumt: maybe change it to  something that sd as oppose to hd ?
[06:55] <Traeumt> should i change it or keep it Bulmer ?
[06:55] <Flannel> Superdaddy-o: then there you go.  You don't need the restricted drivers for accelleration.
[06:55] <Tamale> summer_s4: xerawx: check out my links there
[06:55] <Superdaddy-o> what do you mean>?
[06:56] <nj786> DerangedDingo: how did u change the color of ur pannel? and ur font it to black? how did you do that?
[06:56] <Superdaddy-o> Flannel - what is htat supposed to mean mate?
[06:56] <Traeumt> okey its sd0
[06:56] <Traeumt> now
[06:56] <Superdaddy-o> Flannel - I just want to install beryl and use my freaking computer
[06:56] <Jawshie> shk: for gnome:  System > Administration > System Monitor     and....
[06:56] <Jawshie> !startup | shk
[06:56] <ubotu> shk: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[06:56] <Superdaddy-o> Flannel - i never thought it could be this hard to install a driver
[06:56] <Flannel> Superdaddy-o: it means you don'tneed to install anything additional to use beryl
[06:57] <summer_s4> tamale: it dudnt look bad for me
[06:57] <Superdaddy-o> Flannel so how do i make my resolution any bigger?
[06:57] <Tamale> summer_s4: it wouldn't look bad if i had nothing to compare it to.. but look at edgy.. it's so.. crisp
[06:57] <Flannel> !fixres | Superdaddy-o
[06:57] <ubotu> Superdaddy-o: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:57] <shk> great, thank you
[06:57] <yum_> is there a way to tell what type of ram i have?
[06:57] <Traeumt> Bulmer its like this partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[06:57] <Traeumt>  partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap
[06:57] <DerangedDingo> nj786: That's actually a background that's on the panels that I made in the GIMP. You right click a panel and select Properties, and then Background. Font colors are controlled by the gtkrc file in GTK themes.
[06:57] <Traeumt> it means i use sd instead of hd ?
[06:58] <summer_s4> tamale: i guess you gotta live with it.  It looks like windows xp
[06:58] <RudyValencia> 'lo, anyone here have success compiling Sheepshaver? I can't find it in the repos and I have had difficulty compiling the sheep_net driver
[06:58] <nj786> DerangedDingo: can i download GTK themes?
[06:58] <bulmer> Traeumt i believe so..am not 100% sure
[06:58] <shk> !boot
[06:58] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:58] <Traeumt> Okey
[06:58] <DerangedDingo> nj786: You probably already have from Gnome-Look.org
[06:59] <nj786> DerangedDingo: yes
[06:59] <Tamale> ha.. you kiddin me?  this is linux we're talking about.. you don't have to 'live with' anything :)
[06:59] <summer_s4> tamale: well... i guess find the piece of code were something went wrong and fix it yourself
[06:59] <nj786> DerangedDingo: which 1 can i download from GTK 1.X OR GTK 2.X
[06:59] <bulmer> Traeumt: what throws me off is that SCSI3(0,0,0)   i thought if you go to the next partition, those number change..bwdik
[06:59] <Tamale> summer_s4: that's exactly why i'm here.. i'm hoping to find someone who know how fonts are rendered
[06:59] <DerangedDingo> nj786: GTK 2.X
[07:00] <P235> For security, is it okay to simply change the permissions to a directory to 700 or should it be done recursively?
[07:00] <Tamale> summer_s4: and what's different in feisty
[07:00] <Superdaddy-o> so ubotu
[07:00] <Superdaddy-o> Ubotu - you are telling me that i already have the drivers?
[07:00] <summer_s4> tamale: i don't know as much about ubuntu just i try to help
[07:00] <nj786> DerangedDingo: now exactly, how do i install this theme?
[07:01] <RudyValencia> Anyone here have success compiling Sheepshaver under Feisty? I can't find it in the repos and I have had difficulty compiling the sheep_net driver.
[07:01] <DerangedDingo> nj786: System > Preferences > Theme
[07:01] <Tamale> is there a channel for more advanced topics about ubuntu?
[07:01] <MSG4> Hi i have problem with my ubuntu loading when the computer even with core 2 duo its not boot faster its slow
[07:01] <nj786> DerangedDingo: thats it?
[07:02] <MSG4> And i have 2 gb of rams
[07:02] <MSG4> Also It doesn't start up faster in loading app
[07:03] <DerangedDingo> nj786: If it doesn't make an entry for itself, then go to "customize". GTK2 Themes should be under "Controls". You can also download Metacity themes, which are for window borders. And icon themes can be installed the same way.   :D
[07:06] <blingboi> i have this problem where my screensaver will work before i suspend to ram, but after i suspend to ram and resume, it will pop up a blank screen instead of the screensaver ;{
[07:06] <JohnnyReb> I've tried to find a mirror for flash, no luck
[07:07] <astro76> JohnnyReb, it has to download it from adobe
[07:07] <JohnnyReb> well, their site must be having issues
[07:07] <riotkittie> i just downloaded it.
[07:07] <riotkittie> in a span of like ten seconds :P
[07:08] <JohnnyReb> lucky you
[07:08] <riotkittie> yea. lucky me. i'm awesome. :D
[07:08] <JohnnyReb> I've had no trouble getting files from other locations, just adobe
[07:08] <riotkittie> weird.
[07:09] <JohnnyReb> did you get the tarball?
[07:09] <Tromb> Hey, is there a program out there that I can test my overclocking with?
[07:10] <Superdaddy-o> guys
[07:10] <BlendArt> hello
[07:10] <Superdaddy-o> what is the best tar extractor?
[07:10] <metbsd> it would be tar
[07:10] <el_isma> Superdaddy-o: tar
[07:10] <riotkittie> me? yea.
[07:10] <Superdaddy-o> doesnt that come with ubuntu?
[07:10] <el_isma> I need help. I want to bridge my ethernet iface with my wifi one. I'm following the howtos but it doesn't work and I can't spot what I'm doing wrong... Anyone has experience with this?
[07:10] <el_isma> Superdaddy-o: yeah
[07:10] <metbsd> yes Superdaddy-o
[07:10] <riotkittie> Superdaddy-o: indeede it does
[07:10] <BlendArt> Im using beryl and my windows dont have boarders. Im using an Nvidia card
[07:11] <riotkittie> JohnnyReb: are you trying to dl direct from adobe?
[07:11] <JohnnyReb> yes
[07:11] <riotkittie> BlendArt: have you tried #ubuntu-effects
[07:11] <Sonicadvance1> Question, is there a way to use Window's Midi maps to have a more complete collection of them?
[07:11] <JohnnyReb> and I've tried it through synaptic as well
[07:11] <BlendArt> riotkittie: not yet
[07:11] <riotkittie> hold a sec.
[07:11] <JohnnyReb> it's starts downloading ok, then the bandwidth takes a nosedive
[07:12] <metbsd> is there torrent client that support DHT?
[07:12] <JohnnyReb> it's like they're throttled
[07:12] <el_isma> metbsd: Azureus
[07:12] <metbsd> i want command line
[07:13] <riotkittie> uhh. how come xchat isnt giving me a list of people ?
[07:14] <riotkittie> ah ha
[07:14] <riotkittie> where'd that guy go.
[07:14] <bex> can someone tell me where i would put a prefix when setting up evolution?
[07:14] <riotkittie> JohnnyReb: you manage to get it yet?
[07:14] <JohnnyReb> not yet kittie,
[07:15] <JohnnyReb> gave up, been fighting with it all evening
[07:15] <dgeorge> what is the best way to listen to some stream radio with linux
[07:15] <JohnnyReb> HD crashed this morning and I've been reinstalling all afternoon
[07:15] <riotkittie> ew. that sucks.
[07:15] <JohnnyReb> it crashed hard,
[07:15] <riotkittie> hmm. did that DCC send go through?
[07:16] <riotkittie> let me try again.
[07:16] <faileas> JohnnyReb: that sucks... mind if i suggest taking a look at mondo for backups?
[07:16] <JohnnyReb> thanks faileas
[07:16] <JohnnyReb> I'll check it out
[07:16] <riotkittie> i lost a 500GB drive the other day :\
[07:16] <JohnnyReb> gonna look into getting 2 buffalo drives too
[07:16] <Superdaddy-o> guys how do i know if my video drivers are installed?
[07:17] <faileas> JohnnyReb: you MIGHT also be able to get *some* old data off the old drive by freezing it
[07:17] <JohnnyReb> ah yes, good trick faileas, I've used that one before
[07:17] <riotkittie> i wish data recovery wasnt so expensive :\
[07:17] <JohnnyReb> what sux is, after I formatted a new HD and installed ubuntu, the other drive decided to start working grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[07:17] <faileas> riotkittie: base level stuff... isn't quite so...
[07:18] <faileas> LOL
[07:18] <JohnnyReb> but it's dying a slow death
[07:18] <faileas> well
[07:18] <Superdaddy-o> can someone plz speak with me on a PM for just 3 mins
[07:18] <JohnnyReb> I did get my data off of it though
[07:18] <faileas> make a dupe, and have a huge swap drive XD
[07:18] <riotkittie> faileas, i know, but i'm not talking base level :P
[07:18] <Superdaddy-o> someone help me
[07:19] <SImplyPuzzled> Superdaddy-o, you can pm me
[07:19] <Superdaddy-o> thank you
[07:19] <riotkittie> i have an issue with an external. i dont know if its the drive, or if its the usb connection :\ it fell :|
[07:19] <xerawx> summertime is always brutal on harddrives.. been getting that icky feeling from my 250gb lately.. burning like a madman all evening :o
[07:19] <SImplyPuzzled> make sure you have a registered nick though Superdaddy-o
[07:19] <JohnnyReb> brb trying to figure out where the channel list is
[07:19] <riotkittie> brb. going back to a real irc client. yuck.
[07:19] <Superdaddy-o> its not
[07:20] <SImplyPuzzled> then you won't be able to pm me
[07:20] <Superdaddy-o> can you PM me instead?
[07:20] <Superdaddy-o> can you PM me instead?
[07:20] <SImplyPuzzled> try my aim, freemuncie
[07:20] <Traeumt> I am preying to ubuntu now to run clearly without inserting the cd
[07:20] <JohnnyReb> this looks nothing like the xchat I was using before
[07:20] <JohnnyReb> this sux LOL
[07:20] <Superdaddy-o> okay
[07:20] <riotkittie> ahh. much better.
[07:20] <faileas> riotkittie: could you take the drive out an test? ;p
[07:20] <Traeumt> or i am gona throw my 20 inch wide lcd to floor
[07:20] <Traeumt> and brake the case in to pieces
[07:20] <chris__> hey
[07:21] <xerawx> the drive might just "seem" to be working again though Johnny, my last drive that died did that
[07:21] <xerawx> it was off and on for a while before it finally kicked the bucket
[07:21] <JohnnyReb> xer, yeah, I'm not trusting that other drive
[07:21] <riotkittie> faileas: i'm thinking about doing that but i'm a little wary
[07:21] <JohnnyReb> I've got a different drive in here now
[07:21] <riotkittie> on the other hand, its not like the company will replace it, i imagine :P
[07:22] <faileas> ;)
[07:22] <faileas> You'd want to check that ;p
[07:22] <xerawx> if you split it up into different partitions though, and just use it for testing OSes or whatever, might as well use it while it works
[07:22] <JohnnyReb> does DCC work on this server?
[07:23] <JohnnyReb> yeah xer, I might try to throw freebsd on it
[07:23] <JohnnyReb> if it dies after that, no big loss
[07:24] <JohnnyReb> I can tell it's on the way out, it's way slow
[07:25] <blingboi> has anyone heard of pclinuxiso
[07:25] <JohnnyReb> this is pissing me off, click the link to download the tarball for flash and it just sits there
[07:25] <blingboi> pclinuxos what is it
[07:25] <riotkittie> blingboi: google it.  they have a site.   :P
[07:26] <faileas> ;p
[07:26] <thx1137> hi, sorry, what was the desktop effects channel for compiz pleasE?
[07:26] <riotkittie> heh.
[07:26] <riotkittie> thx1137: #ubuntu-effects
[07:27] <thx1137> riotkittie: thank you
[07:27] <riotkittie> thx1137: you're welcome
[07:27] <Traeumt> Guys is there any difference between installing ubuntu on SATA driver rather than IDE ?
[07:27] <JohnnyReb> doesn't seem to matter what browser I use either
[07:27] <riotkittie> hm. want me to reload xchat and try to send again?
[07:27] <frak_> Traeumt, no difference
[07:28] <JohnnyReb> If U want to
[07:28] <riotkittie> brb
[07:28] <JohnnyReb> I may jump on undernet and see if I can get it off a file share
[07:28] <xerawx> JohnnyReb: did you try the beta? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[07:29] <JohnnyReb> hang on I'lll check it out
[07:30] <AWOSLappy> Does Ubuntu keep archives of old ISOs?
[07:30] <JohnnyReb> SWEET!
[07:30] <JohnnyReb> thanks xer that worked
[07:30] <bullgard4> On a Ubuntu-7.04 computer there are 2 gdm processes. On another Ubuntu-7.04 there is none. Still its graphics works correctly. What's the use of the 2 gdm processes?
[07:31] <xerawx> cool, np
[07:31] <riotkittie> bullgard4, could it have something to do with desktop effects?
[07:31] <riotkittie> i'm completely clueless but thought i'd throw that out :P
[07:31] <riotkittie> ugh. xchat.  brb.
[07:32] <freakytallkid> excuse all, just curious as to how I would go about finding the package files of packages already installed
[07:32] <riotkittie> ahh. better. much better.
[07:32] <AWOSLappy> bullgard4: you type "startx" manually if you do not have gdm
[07:32] <AWOSLappy> bullgard4: there may also be xdm or kdm
[07:32] <riotkittie>  he has it. he's asking why 2 versions are running.
[07:33] <pintados_16> hello can someone tell me where can i get a video splitter for ubuntu where in i can split wmv files
[07:33] <pintados_16> please help
[07:33] <JohnnyReb> install worked
[07:33] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know if a way to defrag a NTFS drive from linux?
[07:34] <AWOSLappy> ChesseGardener: VMware/Qemu with real disk access.
[07:34] <AWOSLappy> Dangerous, but fun.
[07:34] <riotkittie> pintados_16: what do you need help with?
[07:34] <bullgard4> AWOSLappy: On the computer where there is no gdm process running I did not have to type 'startx'. Still it has brought up my Gnome.
[07:34] <JohnnyReb> yaaaaaaaaaaay I got flash, I can go to bed happy now LOL
[07:34] <JohnnyReb> I'm back up and running 100%
[07:34] <pintados_16> i need to split some wmv files
[07:35] <CheeseGardener> VMware?
[07:35] <CheeseGardener> Quem?
[07:35] <pintados_16> can someone tell me what software do i need
[07:35] <faileas> emulators ;p
[07:35] <CheeseGardener> Which is for GNOME?
[07:35] <faileas> basically he's saying, do it in windows ;p
[07:35] <riotkittie> pintados_16: that, i have no idea of. search in synaptic or apt for audio editors
[07:35] <AWOSLappy> bullgard4: hrm, I'm not sure.
[07:35] <faileas> dosen't matter, CheeseGardener
[07:35] <CheeseGardener> do they work?
[07:36] <AWOSLappy> pintado_16: Windows?  not many wmv editors (if any) available for Linux
[07:36] <CheeseGardener> or will they mess up the HDD?
[07:36] <faileas> eh
[07:36] <bullgard4> riotkittie: I do not use desktop effects, neither on computer 1 nor on computer 2.
[07:36] <Traeumt> what is the best program for linux to run .exe files people ?
[07:36] <MasterShrek> wine
[07:36] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: if you're that worried about it, your best bet is to reboot, enter windows, and defrag theer
[07:36] <riotkittie> there*
[07:36] <JohnnyReb> gnite y'all, thanks to all who helped!
[07:36] <CheeseGardener> So windows would be best to defrag with?
[07:36] <MasterShrek> yea i dont know if i would defrag my windows partition under vmware
[07:36] <faileas> Traeumt: Wine or run em in windows in an emu
[07:36] <Traeumt> I want to play world of warcraft with ubuntu :)
[07:36] <faileas> CheeseGardener: hell yes
[07:36] <pintados_16> ok thanks for your help
[07:36] <CheeseGardener> Ok
[07:36] <CheeseGardener> I'll do that then.
[07:36] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: exactly
[07:37] <pete83> CheeseGardener: here's a way: make another partition, and then copy all the files over to it. They will be probably magically defragmented. tada
[07:37] <Kousotu> question: how to I give boot.ini for wina Grub boot option?
[07:37] <CheeseGardener> Lately, all I use windows for is to defragment.
[07:37] <AWOSLappy> Traeumt: WINE.   See winehq.org.
[07:37] <faileas> Traeumt: check the wine compat database
[07:37] <riotkittie> Kousotu: windows boot loader??
[07:37] <Traeumt> thanks all
[07:37] <riotkittie> you want to give that a GRUB option?
[07:37] <AWOSLappy> Does Ubuntu keep archives of old ISOs?
[07:37] <MasterShrek> Kousotu, install grub to your mbr and put a windows option in there
[07:37] <CheeseGardener> are there any serious problems with VMware or Quem when defragmenting?
[07:37] <riotkittie> i'm using windows for. like. everything these days. :x
[07:37] <MasterShrek> i think so AWOSLappy who?
[07:37] <CheeseGardener> where the HDD could break?
[07:38] <Kousotu> yes
[07:38] <faileas> raw disk loading on a VM is chancy
[07:38] <AWOSLappy> MasterShrek: like, old Feisty Herd 5 ISOs.
[07:38] <eboyjr> Does anyone have 3d anaglyph ( red | blue ) glasses here?
[07:38] <Kousotu> MasterShrek: I have grub as default
[07:38] <MasterShrek> hmm, i doubt it, but maybe
[07:38] <MasterShrek> Kousotu, then why do you want to edit windows' boot.ini?
[07:38] <pete83> CheeseGardener: if you don't use windows, why do you even need an NTFS drive?
[07:38] <AWOSLappy> ChesseGardener: sure, any time you hook up a raw disk to a VM it's dangerous.  I haven't lost any datas.  YMMV.
[07:38] <riotkittie> Kousotu: can you explain what youre trying to do? why do you want to edit win's bootloader?
[07:38] <Kousotu> MasterShrek: I want to put the option in theboot.ini so if itstarts win when Idon't want to I can boot grub again
[07:39] <Kousotu> er..
[07:39] <Kousotu> load*
[07:39] <CheeseGardener> Oh.... so I could lose everything then?
[07:39] <riotkittie> Kousotu: thats not going to work
[07:39] <faileas> erm
[07:39] <Kousotu> riotkittie: why not?
[07:39] <faileas> not nessarrily, but possible
[07:39] <Kousotu> windowscan see my ext3 patio
[07:39] <MasterShrek> Kousotu, if you boot windows by accident do this: ctrl+alt+del
[07:39] <riotkittie> why not  just edit grub's menu list? and change the time?
[07:39] <Kousotu> partion*
[07:40] <faileas> MasterShrek: that opens task manager ;p
[07:40] <Kousotu> riotkittie: cause I don't wanna
[07:40] <freakytallkid> does anyone know where apt-get and Synaptic Package Manager download the packages to before they install them?
[07:40] <MasterShrek> fck windows
[07:40] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:40] <CheeseGardener> so is there any safe way to defrag a NTFS drive without windows?
[07:40] <Kousotu> I game on windows tyvm
[07:40] <Flannel> freakytallkid: /var/cache/apt/
[07:40] <faileas> CheeseGardener: no
[07:40] <malnilion> CheeseGardener, I would say that would be a bad idea to try.
[07:40] <freakytallkid> thanks Flannel
[07:40] <Kousotu> is itpossible?
[07:40] <AWOSLappy> Kousotu: I am forced to as well.  what I did is set up two entries in boot.ini, both to windows, with a timeout.
[07:40] <CheeseGardener> darn
[07:40] <Kousotu> and if so how?
[07:41] <pete83> Kousotu, Windows doesn't have any good games. Like, where's the tuxracer?
[07:41] <AWOSLappy> Kousotu: if you accidentally boot Windows, you have however many seconds to CTRL+ALT+DEL
[07:41] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, make use of a cd burner, and put a linux fs on there
[07:41] <riotkittie> you dont want to take the simple route and edit the timeout in grub to save yourself from the problem you want solved, but want windows to be able to send you back to grub, and arent willing to reboot?
[07:41] <CheeseGardener> so should I just format my drive to EXT3?
[07:41] <Kousotu> pete83: I play diablo 2 and Resident Evil 3/4
[07:41] <CheeseGardener> if I do that I can't hook it to computers that don't have EXT3 on them
[07:41] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: yep
[07:41] <CheeseGardener> ones that I can't install things to
[07:41] <faileas> CheeseGardener: FAT32
[07:41] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: wait, this is an external drive?
[07:41] <CheeseGardener> yes.
[07:41] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: there are Win32 ext3 drivers that I use day-to-day.
[07:42] <CheeseGardener> I want to defragment an external drive.
[07:42] <sauvin> I'm actually a bit leery about using WINDOWS tools to defrag NTFS!
[07:42] <Kousotu> riotkittie: I'm on a laptop, rebooting from boot is annyoing
[07:42] <MasterShrek> lol sauvin
[07:42] <riotkittie> Kousotu: then edit grub's menu list.
[07:42] <CheeseGardener> Is it safe to defrag an external with those programs AWOS?
[07:42] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: sure.
[07:42] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, hes talking about the actual windows utilitites
[07:42] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: VMware allows you to run Windows inside Linux.
[07:42] <sauvin> for stuff like that, forget internal/external. The only real difference is the length of the cord that runs between the drive and the motherboard.
[07:42] <MasterShrek> and the dev label
[07:43] <MasterShrek> sd vs hd
[07:43] <jdailey> Anyone know about setting up mysql on Ubuntu?  When I was running Drapper Drake, I had a working Ruby on Rails platform.  Now, I am not able to get back to that point.
[07:43] <jdailey> I've gone through and removed all mySQL in the synaptic package manager - then restarted, then reinstalled, just using the mysql-server.  The error I get is with the .pid.   There are loads of posts about the problem but unclear what actually would work for me.
[07:43] <CheeseGardener> What?  it does?
[07:43] <jdailey> I'm now running Feisty.
[07:43] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: Yep.  And it's free.
[07:43] <Kousotu> riotkittie: in theroy how would I be able to otgrub back?
[07:43] <CheeseGardener> so I can boot up XP while on linux?
[07:43] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, yea it runs an actual copy of windows under linux
[07:43] <faileas> yup
[07:43] <robert_> is there no wine available for ubuntu64?
[07:43] <CheeseGardener> so it gives you windows free?
[07:43] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: you CAN'T use it with vista (unless you have uber-enterprise-expensive edition), but you can with all others.
[07:43] <riotkittie> Kousotu: otgrub?
[07:43] <faileas> CheeseGardener: no
[07:44] <CheeseGardener> oh.
[07:44] <MasterShrek> robert_, no its just a 32 bit program, but you can still install
[07:44] <AWOSLappy> CheeseGardener: no...you have to have a valid, legal copy of Windows
[07:44] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, you need a copy of windoze still
[07:44] <Kousotu> boot grub*
[07:44] <Kousotu> er..
[07:44] <Kousotu> I should say load grub
[07:44] <CheeseGardener> I see.  Well right now I use windows only for defragmenting.  So dual boot is worth it?
[07:44] <CheeseGardener> just to use windows utilities for certain things?
[07:45] <faileas> IMO, no.
[07:45] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, you should make the switch to totally linux
[07:45] <pete83> CheeseGardener: why do you even need to defragment at all, if that's all you use it for?
[07:45] <CheeseGardener> and is there any way to defragment anything with linux?  like FAT32?
[07:45] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, you dont need to defrag a linux partition, and i dunno if u can defrag a fat32
[07:46] <riotkittie> Kousotu: the same way you're loading it now. all i'm telling you to do is edit the configuration file, and you can set the time out [number of seconds]  in which it will automatically boot into the default OS. Windows' bootloader will only allow you to boot into Windows
[07:46] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, make like a 1 gig partition on your external thats fat32 and put a windows ext driver on that so u can install on any pc u plug it into
[07:47] <faileas> MasterShrek: not always an option...
[07:47] <riotkittie> While there are alternatives to the Windows bootloader, IMHO, it makes far more sense to just edit grub's config
[07:47] <Kousotu> riotkittie: I doubt that seriously
[07:47] <magic_ninja> how can i get gnome to ask me for a password when i run a file (IE running et with a renice) without using it in terminal, like synaptic asks for a pw
[07:47] <CheeseGardener> 1 gig extended?
[07:47] <riotkittie> Kousotu: doubt what, seriously?
[07:47] <CheeseGardener> or primary?
[07:47] <Kousotu> riotkittie: my winXP can read/write to ext3
[07:47] <MasterShrek> magic_ninja, gksu [command]
[07:47] <riotkittie> it doesnt matter what your WinXP can read or write to. WindowsXP is an OS, not a bootloader.
[07:48] <riotkittie> I can see my NTFS and FAT32 partitions from slack, zen, feisty, and dapper, but i can't load any OS from within them
[07:48] <Kousotu> right, but the boot.ini reads FROM winXP
[07:49] <Kousotu> so in thery, couldn't I have it load the grub option?
[07:49] <MasterShrek> google it Kousotu, its a dumb idea tho lol
[07:49] <pete83> Kousotu: what are you using right now, ubuntu or windows?
[07:49] <riotkittie> yes. the boot.ini reads from Windows XP. but, if you're unaware, Microsoft is fairly heavy handed. Microsoft is not a fan of competition. Microsoft does not believe you need or want alternatives. You. Cannot. Use. XP's. Bootloader. To. Load. GRUB.
[07:50] <MasterShrek> . <---- period
[07:50] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:50] <Kousotu> at this second, win XP
[07:50] <freakytallkid> lol
[07:51] <MasterShrek> Kousotu: start>run   cmd    format c:
[07:51] <riotkittie> as I've said, there are alternatives to Windows' bootloader. you are free to search them out. but the option i have given you a number of times is the most simple, and makes the most sense.   if you want to edit boot.ini, go for it.
[07:51] <Kousotu> no
[07:51] <MasterShrek> problem solved
[07:51] <Kousotu> I wo't lose my XP patrion
[07:51] <Kousotu> I want to keep XP from my games
[07:52] <riotkittie> if you want to run Linux from windows, run an emulator.
[07:52] <Kousotu> especially the ones I just bought then WON'T run on Linux wine
[07:52] <KurtKraut> Kousotu, keep an eye over www.reactos.org
[07:52] <mvconcept> does anyone use me.dium? i saw this here: http://digg.com/tech_news/Remember_Me_dium_It_just_got_some_MAJOR_updates_IE7_Support_and_Widgets
[07:52] <riotkittie> LoL. i wonder how react's coming along these days.
[07:52] <jdailey> I have a mysql config issue I think...but cannot track it down...When issuing the command $mysqld_safe --user=mysqld &
[07:52] <KurtKraut> Kousotu, this is a fully windows compatible system. No, it is not an emulation, no it is not linux.
[07:52] <jdailey> I get a response that the server has started, and then process is ended. The mysqld.pid file is mentioned as the culprit.
[07:52] <jdailey>   $ STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
[07:52] <jdailey>   $ mysqld_safe[6537] : ended
[07:52] <jdailey> I have deleted the mysqld.pid file, which was a suggestion from an earlier message, which suggested to manually remove the file.  So, how can it be stopping the server?  I've also chown 'd the directory and files for the user that is spawning the sqld .  Does that sound right?
[07:52] <KurtKraut> riotkittie, quite slow but they keep coding :P
[07:53] <riotkittie> KurtKraut: should be interesting to see what they manage to come up with. a decade or two down the line. :P
[07:53] <CheeseGardener> so there is no way to defrag an external hard drive outside of windows, without the possibility of it destroying the file system?
[07:54] <freakytallkid> i have an odd question... is there an alternative to Windows Server? like Ubuntu Server but with all GUI's?
[07:54] <pppoe_dude> anyone know if the latest skype works on edgy?
[07:54] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: why not just convert the external to another file system?
[07:54] <faileas> you can install GUIs in ubuntu server ;p
[07:54] <pete83> Kousotu: they are right, that editing grub's menu.lst is easier.  If you want to use boot.ini to load linux take a look at this guide:    http://www.linux.com/articles/113945?tid=129&tid=49
[07:54] <s25> How can i forward every single thing that comes out of my computer through a proxy?
[07:54] <MasterShrek> freakytallkid, any ubuntu install can be converted into a server
[07:54] <s25> A socks proxy
[07:54] <CheeseGardener> because I want it to be able to plug into anything like windows or OSX
[07:55] <CheeseGardener> and be read natively.
[07:55] <MasterShrek> all ubuntu server edition is, is a dumbed down version of ubuntu desktop
 I'm using the beta Skype <IP_ADDRESS> on feisty
[07:55] <Flannel> freakytallkid: you can also just install server apps n a desktop machine.  Linux makes no distinction between 'desktops' and 'servers'.  Everything is a program, they all run equally well.
[07:55] <KurtKraut> freakytallkid, hmmm... usually there are frontends for server applications like freepbx (for Asterisk) or ISPConfig (for website hostings) that are acessible via browser
[07:55] <pppoe_dude> s25, can't do it for every single thing automatically, but most gnome apps can be fixed from the system menu proxxy settings
[07:55] <faileas> MasterShrek: not dumbed down, it just has less things installed
[07:55] <MasterShrek> thats what i mean
[07:55] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: hmm. maybe BartPE will work. I'm not sure if there's a defrag tool on the disc, but you may want to google it and see
[07:55] <KurtKraut> freakytallkid, so instead of messing around the server screen itself you may have a friendly channel of administration thru a web interface.
[07:56] <xerawx> CheeseGardener: unless the drive is used for video editting or something you probably don't really need to defrag
[07:56] <s25> pppoe_dude: I was hoping i could, can i use the firewall maybe? set it to forward all outbound traffic to a port on my localhost?
[07:56] <freakytallkid> kurt: i was more looking to make something similar to 'Active Domain' where clients are linked and log into the server
[07:56] <CheeseGardener> Didn't they have a portable version of windows
[07:57] <CheeseGardener> like windows CE?
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> s25, ys, or system->preferences->network proxy
[07:57] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: WindowsPE ?  on a disc? that isnt installed?
[07:57] <KurtKraut> freakytallkid, I don't know this tool. They log into the server to do what ?
[07:57] <Phrozen_One> how is it possible to have an alternate failover net config, say if my dhcp renew fails how could I have it automatically statically configure itself?
[07:57] <faileas> CheeseGardener: Winpe, or BartPE? windows liveCDs...
[07:57] <Flannel> freakytallkid: You want thin-clients.  Check out what edubuntu has to offer (its got a preconfigured thin client/server installer)
[07:57] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: BartPE is an alternative to that. and supposed to be better.
[07:57] <KurtKraut> Phrozen_One, I think it will require some bash scripting.
[07:58] <xerawx> I thought there was some form of XP.. perhaps hacked, that could boot from a portal drive like OS X does.. haven't been up on the windoze werld for a long time tho
[07:58] <CheeseGardener> well I don't have a windows CD unfortunately.
[07:58] <CheeseGardener> I have a restore CD
[07:58] <freakytallkid> kurt: would thin clients allow computers to play a 3D game? its kinda for a games room
[07:58] <CheeseGardener> that toshiba gave me.
[07:58] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: ah. that sucks.  :|
[07:58] <Phrozen_One> KurtKraut, how can I do that though, run a cron job trying to get a renew, get the exit code, and if it fails run some static commands?
[07:58] <riotkittie> i hate restore CDs!
[07:58] <CheeseGardener> It restores windows onto it with factory software.
[07:58] <freakytallkid> kurt: and the comps are hardly powerful
[07:58] <mattgyver83> Hey room, I am trying to burn the contents of an .iso.  When i try to burn the CD i select 'Create from image' however, nothing happens.  It is possible to burn .iso files within ubuntus file manager isnt it?
[07:58] <riotkittie> its like "if you punks are charging me for an OS, give me an OS" grr. ;x
[07:59] <faileas> xerawx: yeah. PEs
[07:59] <earthdog>  can anyone point me in the right direction for setting up a cups server on 7.04 server?
[08:00] <faileas> though if ROS gets stable/outta aphia it would be a nice windows alternative
[08:00] <phaedra> mattgyver83,  Just use k3b
[08:00] <KurtKraut> Phrozen_One, yes... but it sound a bit wierd for me this usage. Are you absolutelly sure that you need a static setting if dhcp fails ?
[08:00] <riotkittie> im sure react will make it there some day.
[08:00] <nextse7en> Could someone recommend a how to for setting up a sever to run ubuntu on dumb clients over the network?
[08:00] <CheeseGardener> how do I register for this channel?
[08:00] <xen_> hello there
[08:00] <CheeseGardener> or freenode?
[08:00] <faileas> riotkittie: its getting there, slowly ;p
[08:00] <Phrozen_One> KurtKraut, yes, say if the DHCP server failed, I want a static failover for 12 hours until it renews again
[08:00] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, /msg nickserv register help
[08:01] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: your nickname?  /msg nickserv register <password>   ... and possibly <email address>
[08:01] <mattgyver83> phaedra, forgive me what is k3b?
[08:01] <riotkittie> or /msg nickserv help register
[08:01] <KurtKraut> Phrozen_One, do you own/administrate the DHCP server?
[08:01] <mattgyver83> nm
[08:01] <malnilion> mattgyver83, a cd/dvd burning application
[08:01] <MasterShrek> !k3b | mattgyver83
[08:01] <ubotu> mattgyver83: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[08:01] <Phrozen_One> KurtKraut, no I do not, and for info purposes its win2k3
[08:01] <phaedra> mattgyver83,  Similar to nero...
[08:01] <xen_> I'm having a little trouble setting up  apache/mysql/php. I'm wishing for some help
[08:01] <fstab_ahab> look, somebody loves us!! lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fRiMvzhAZc
[08:02] <malnilion> Better than nero because it's truly free ;)
[08:02] <KurtKraut> Phrozen_One, oh, I see. I wish you luck :P
[08:02] <mattgyver83> Can that burn lightscribe dvds?
[08:02] <gregorovius> I have a motherboard with a realtek 850 audio chip... anybody knows why it might be that ac3 passthrough works with OSS but not with ALSA?
[08:02] <Phrozen_One> KurtKraut, thank you
[08:02] <nextse7en> Anyone? A how to article for running a fiesty server for thin clients?
[08:02] <KurtKraut> xen_, try some help in #ubuntu-server too
[08:02] <fstab_ahab> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fRiMvzhAZc
[08:03] <Flannel> !offtopic | fstab_ahab
[08:03] <ubotu> fstab_ahab: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:03] <xen_> I will kurt
[08:03] <untung_> hello, i have a Fujitsu P2120 laptop with prism wireless card. How can I set up the wireless connection?
[08:03] <xen_> howlingmadhowie, are you there?
[08:03] <riotkittie> I was running Dapper on a laptop for about a year. I just switched to a desktop, and am running a clean install of feisty. i can copy $home from the laptop to the desktop, right?  should i wait until i've installed everything i had on the old machine?
[08:03] <sSiroSoriSs> untung_, google ur OS distribution + wireless
[08:03] <KurtKraut> untung_, try searching for your hardware name in wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org
[08:03] <xen_> howl
[08:03] <MasterShrek> yea you can copy it riotkittie
[08:04] <xen_> eh
[08:04] <KurtKraut> riotkittie, wait the install completion
[08:04] <xen_> how do you set the root password for mysql?
[08:04] <Ste-Foy> php ?
[08:04] <KurtKraut> riotkittie, I do not recommend pasting $home/.configs from version to another
[08:04] <xen_> mysql
[08:04] <s|k> heh ubuntu sucks for widescreen monitors
[08:04] <Ste-Foy> php ?
[08:04] <xen_> mysql
[08:04] <Flannel> xen_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-39085275bc28194cca77d021ec362ff3003b10bc
[08:04] <Ste-Foy> ok sorry xen_
[08:04] <earthdog>  can anyone point me in the right direction for setting up a cups server on 7.04 server?
[08:05] <xen_> the root password for mysql
[08:05] <mariko> I have  a Toshiba laptop with Dapper ,but no sound. in ubuntuforum they claim i should upodate the BIOS. how dop i do that?
[08:05] <riotkittie> doh. guess i'm going to have to stop being lazy and start doing it manually. :\
[08:06] <xen_> Please, this will help me a lot if you know how to set the root password for mysql.
[08:06] <riotkittie> or i could be super lazy, downgrade back to dapper and copy everything over then. :D
[08:06] <Flannel> xen_: That link
[08:06] <Kousotu> can someone helwith boot part?
[08:06] <Kousotu> can someone help with bootpart?
[08:06] <xen_> what link?
[08:06] <Kousotu> *
[08:06] <Flannel> xen_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-39085275bc28194cca77d021ec362ff3003b10bc
[08:06] <riotkittie> which would require more effort, but less. at the same time. <ponders>
[08:07] <JKirk_> can anyone tell me why I can't boot into X but I can reinstall nvidia drivers from cmd prompt and then do startx and it works fine...but as soon as I reboot it doesn't work again... any help?
[08:07] <riotkittie> but then i'd miss the cube. i'm pathetic. i only installed feisty because i wanted compiz the easy way :x
[08:07] <fstab_ahab> lol I love people that learn how to use the bot and start spamming it for every single little thing.
[08:08] <riotkittie> JKirk_: that's odd. uhm. check /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or the other Xorg logs there) and see if it says anything?
[08:08] <Kousotu> can someone help with bootpart?
[08:08] <fstab_ahab> to funny
[08:08] <riotkittie> !botabuse
[08:08] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:08] <riotkittie> :x
[08:08] <CheeseGardener> How do you make a Live CD with BartPE?
[08:08] <pants> my vaio seems to not like having 2 batteries in it.  looking at acpi_listen, ac_adapter ACAD 00000000 00000001 just keeps repeating and my laptop slows to a crawl with a super choppy mouse
[08:09] <riotkittie> CheeseGardener: eh. its been so long since i looked at Bart that i've forgotten. i believe there are easy to follow directions on the site, though
[08:09] <mariko> I have  a Toshiba laptop with Dapper ,but no sound. in ubuntuforum they claim i should upodate the BIOS. how dop i do that?
[08:09] <root> hola
[08:09] <Vittorio> hello
[08:09] <JKirk_> riotkittie, welpl...when I run it now it says it's ok... it found the card fine...but when I look at the log after reboot it says it can't find a compatible card...doesn't make any sense
[08:09] <riotkittie> mariko: you'd need to find out who made your bios, visit their site, download the upgrade if one is available...  put it on a floppy probably, and run it after a reboot
[08:10] <mariko> riotkittie, thank you. is there a command that will tell me who made the bios?
[08:10] <phreck> mariko: go to toshibas website.
[08:10] <Scrampy> find motherboard model number and search for latest bios :)
[08:11] <riotkittie> mariko: no. but when you boot, you should see it, on the initial screen. ...   yea, go to toshiba's website. if they dont have the files there, they probably have links to it
[08:11] <rockets> For gaming, a 3 Ghz core 2 duo would be better then a 2.4 ghz core 2 quad, right?
[08:11] <riotkittie> err. how old is this laptop?
[08:11] <faileas> rockets: depends
[08:11] <Scrampy> you can also use a program like isandra to find motherboard details and bios version
[08:12] <rockets> faileas: if the game is designed to support SMP or not
[08:12] <mariko> riotkittie, this laptop is 5 years old...
[08:12] <faileas> yup
[08:12] <potissimus> anyone willing to help out with a mythtv/partitioning question privately?
[08:12] <pants> is my 2 battery issue some wierd acpi bug?
[08:13] <riotkittie> mariko: and what kind of soundcard/chip does it have?
[08:13] <riotkittie> ooh brb. i need to reboot
[08:13] <mariko> riotkittie, i dont know , dapper doesnt show any soundcard in lspci and i dont know how to look for it,
[08:14] <freakytallkid> memo to self, do not mark EVERY package in Synaptic...
[08:14] <riotkittie> mariko: ahh. did the people who told you to flash the bios have experience with your laptop?
[08:14] <riotkittie> or do you not know?
[08:15] <mariko> riotkittie, this is a problem cause i couldnt google any advice for my model -dynabook
[08:15] <mariko> i could only find other toshiba laptops...
[08:16] <xtknight> !dvd
[08:16] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:16] <pants> !acpi
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <pants> !'your mom'
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your mom' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <freakytallkid> !'linux
[08:17] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:17] <freakytallkid> cool
[08:17] <pants> !anything
[08:17] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[08:18] <freakytallkid> lmao
[08:18] <freakytallkid> !chicks
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chicks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <Kousotu> lol
[08:18] <Kousotu> !nothing
[08:18] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[08:18] <freakytallkid> lol
[08:18] <macogw> !chix
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <macogw> !linuxchix
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxchix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <macogw> ok
[08:18] <Kousotu> !hate
[08:18] <ubotu> hate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy
[08:18] <Kousotu> lmao
[08:18] <freakytallkid> !'pleasing a woman'
[08:19] <macogw> after freakytallkid i had to see if the bot knew about them
[08:19] <arathald> hey, im having some trouble with my wireless card (Broadcom card on an HP Compaq nw8440 on Kubuntu 7.04); when i try enabling it, it usually pops up a dialog that says its enabling anywhere from less than a second to about 30 seconds, and when the dialog goes away, its still disabled
[08:19] <poningru> ok please keep it clean
[08:19] <freakytallkid> ok, sorry
[08:19] <poningru> !bcm-43xx
[08:19] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[08:19] <poningru> arathald: do a dmesg
[08:19] <poningru> see if you see something about firmware not found or something
[08:20] <mariko> anybody knows anything about enabling sound in a TOSHIBA DYNABOOK LAPTOP, RUNNING DAPPER?
[08:20] <pants> where do i report bugs with acpi?
[08:21] <sSiroSoriSs> mariko, google would be ur best chance for finding others with same issue
[08:21] <arathald> poningru: says somethign about "Microcode 'bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' not available or load failed."
[08:22] <poningru> arathald: right then go to synaptic and search for fwcutter
[08:22] <nextse7en> Need some help with LTSP, do I need two ethernet interfaces to run it if I also want the server connected to the internet, or can it all share the same inteface?
[08:22] <poningru> arathald: and install that packet
[08:22] <mariko> sSiroSoriSs,  google has let me down....
[08:22] <Kousotu> sSiroSoriSs check pm
[08:22] <poningru> or follow that link
[08:23] <sSiroSoriSs> mariko, try different distribution
[08:23] <poningru> nextse7en: yes just have a router
[08:23] <mariko> sSiroSoriSs, great idea , thanks
[08:23] <nextse7en> thanks poninru
[08:24] <nextse7en> poningru Can you explain to me what this means then, in laymens terms "You need to set up one static interface where you will attach the thin clients" (fomr the ltsp quick install doc)
[08:25] <BaD_CrC> if i were to uncheck 'gdm' in the services applet and reboot, i'd get the CLI login, right?
[08:25] <poningru> nextse7en: that means the interface must not be dependent on dhcp
[08:25] <jayde_drag0n> i need the name of a program that will convert m4p to mp3 or ogg
[08:25] <poningru> as in it must always have the same ip
[08:25] <nextse7en> poningru: And what does this mean "Configure your spare interface for the thin clients to have the IP <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[08:25] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: mencoder
[08:25] <jayde_drag0n> poningru... thanks!
[08:25] <BaD_CrC> mencoder/transcode
[08:26] <poningru> nextse7en: thats assuming you have more than one interface
[08:26] <poningru> as in network card
[08:26] <poningru> nextse7en: easiest way for you to do this would be to use edubuntu
[08:26] <poningru> and then remove the kids educational packages
[08:26] <nextse7en> poningru: Thanks much, so ltsp pretty much works out of the box, and will boot any machine that is set to boot from pxe on the network?
[08:27] <poningru> I think so
[08:27] <studeringaaron> hi everyone
[08:27] <potissimus> I'm installing Ubuntu right now and want to use it with mythtv.  on my first hdd, I'd like the os so I have an ext3 and swap partition filling it.  I'd like the second hdd to be storage for mythtv only.  Is it possible to partition for this, and if so, how?
[08:27] <poningru> but I think there is some way to restrict that with mac id
[08:27] <poningru> but not hundred percent sure
[08:28] <Kousotu> can someone help with bootpart? (NOT GRUB)
[08:28] <nextse7en> poningru: Thanks for your time and answers :)
[08:28] <poningru> np
[08:28] <solid_liq> potissimus: of course, consult the mythTV docs to see where it looks for its files
[08:28] <the_giver> hi
[08:28] <sSiroSoriSs> potissimus, i'm not sure about how mythtv works
[08:28] <poningru> potissimus: #ubuntu-mythtb
[08:28] <poningru> err
[08:28] <poningru> potissimus: #ubuntu-mythtv
[08:28] <poningru> !mythtv
[08:28] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[08:29] <poningru> Kousotu: bootpart?
[08:29] <potissimus> sorry, i'll try there
[08:29] <the_giver> if i started a site.. about linux .. do you guys think people in the linux be interestd in making video tutorials for people tow atch and learn more about linux? I always wanted a site like that when i started out but I never found one
[08:29] <the_giver> linux community*
[08:29] <poningru> we have one
[08:29] <the_giver> like with tutorials on basic command line
[08:29] <the_giver> really?
[08:29] <the_giver> link?
[08:29] <poningru> yeah jenda runs it
[08:29] <sauvin> I think maybe videos about command line tutorials would be... um... BORING.
[08:29] <poningru> ubuntututorials.com?
[08:29] <poningru> I think
[08:29] <poningru> hold on
[08:30] <jayde_drag0n> dumb question.. i found that i have mencoder installed... but when i try to run the program nothing happens?
[08:30] <poningru> http://ubuntuclips.org/
[08:30] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: thats cause its a command line program
[08:30] <arathald> poningru: well, that was a whole lot easier than i expected, thanks
[08:31] <poningru> arathald: you can blaim broadcom for your troubles
[08:31] <jayde_drag0n> poningru: any other program i could use... i honestly am just too daunted by having to do a command line for 200 songs
 gmplayer is mplayer's gui
[08:31] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: uh... for that many songs I would want to do it in command line
[08:31] <arathald> poningru: well, i ran ubuntu for a long time before, and it seemed like it just stopped working (was a while ago), i dont remember ever having to install firmware before
[08:31] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: what kinda song is it?
[08:31] <sauvin> Actually, I'd DEMAND a command line for 200 songs.
[08:32] <poningru> and what are you converting it to?
[08:32] <sauvin> Drag 'n' drop for 200 of the little critters, that's, just WRONG.
[08:32] <Javid> Is there a way to get apt-get to not check the pgp key of a repository? subkeys.pgp.net is down and this is keeping me from installing stuff.
[08:32] <studeringaaron> i ghot a dumb question guys i already have ubuntu 7.04 and i want kde is it eaiser to just get and install kububtu or can i add kde on mine
[08:32] <jayde_drag0n> poningru: i cam over from windows... i have over 200 songs that i purchased from itunes
[08:32] <faileas> hmm
[08:32] <MasterShrek> studeringaaron, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <sauvin> studeringaaron, depending on what you installed FROM, you might already have KDE installed.
[08:33] <studeringaaron> no i dont have kde installed it installed gnome
[08:33] <sauvin> When you get to the graphical login screen after a reboot, look along the LOWER LEFT corner of the screen for "Options".
[08:33] <Flannel> Javid: --allow-unauthenticated might be what you're looking for
[08:33] <Javid> mahala.
[08:33] <studeringaaron> ahhhhhh thank you
[08:33] <anvd23> hi all
[08:33] <jayde_drag0n> poningru: i just want to play the damn things... sooo i want to convert them to either mp3 or whatever else will play... and i don't really want to type 50millions lines of code to convert them all
[08:33] <faileas> anyone ever used wubi on a system that has a recovery partition? does the bootloader fo back to the original on uninstall?
[08:33] <ggarlic_> hey,does anyone know can kde4 works well with ubuntu7.04
[08:33] <sSiroSoriSs> studeringaaron, what i would do is google + download 'ubuntu ultimate edition'
[08:33] <Javid> doesn't work
[08:33] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: ah itunes songs
[08:33] <MasterShrek> ggarlic_, kde4 isnt out yet
[08:33] <studeringaaron> ultimate 10-4 rubber ducky
[08:34] <poningru> thats the stuff with drm
[08:34] <Phrozen_One> is it possible to kill X while having all open console sessions running still, through some means?
[08:34] <MasterShrek> its still beta, if that even
[08:34] <Flannel> ggarlic_: Believe there's a kubuntu specific repository for it.  Check in #kubuntu
[08:34] <Javid> apt-get update fails and tells me to run apt-get update to fix it.
[08:34] <Flannel> Phrozen_One: you mean gnome-terminals?
[08:34] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: if you try to play it that will be illegal
[08:34] <sSiroSoriSs> studeringaaron, it comes with gnome,kde,enlightenment desktops + a tone of other programs
[08:34] <MasterShrek> Phrozen_One, not terminals that are open in the x session
[08:34] <jayde_drag0n> unfortunatley yes it is drm
[08:34] <nextse7en> Quick question, whats the command to start a root session of nautalus?   In this case, I need to.
[08:34] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: are you in the US?
[08:34] <jayde_drag0n> yes i paid for my songs
[08:34] <jayde_drag0n> i want to play them
[08:34] <Flannel> nextse7en: gksu nautilus, and as you know, close it as soon as you can.
[08:34] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: are you in the US?
[08:34] <MasterShrek> nextse7en, gksu nautilus
[08:34] <jayde_drag0n> i'm in california to be exact
[08:34] <xtknight> jayde_drag0n, what format?
[08:34] <jayde_drag0n> m4p
[08:34] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: there is a way to play it
[08:35] <poningru> but I cant tell you
[08:35] <nextse7en> Thanks Flannel, MasterShrek.
[08:35] <poningru> cause thats helping you break drm
[08:35] <studeringaaron> ok cool now the gnome isnt a problem at all I just like the kde a lil better but i was wondering if it was a huge pain to switch it cause theres a build with kde as a default ya know
[08:35] <poningru> and I can go to jail for that
[08:35] <poningru> sorry
[08:35] <poningru> call up your senator and tell them you have shitty laws
[08:35] <xtknight> ah well a simple google will tell ya
[08:35] <MasterShrek> no studeringaaron but you will still have gnome there always
[08:35] <jayde_drag0n> simple google is not teling me
[08:35] <poningru> jayde_drag0n: I feel your pain and I am so sorry dude :(
[08:36] <studeringaaron> MasterShrek that isnt a problem i dont mind gnome i just like playing around and looking at kde is all
[08:36] <jayde_drag0n> dudette
[08:36] <poningru> sorry
[08:36] <poningru> dudette :)
[08:36] <MasterShrek> studeringaaron, i was on a big kde trip for awhile, but i just recently came back to gnome
[08:36] <jayde_drag0n> yes... girls exist on teh intarweb
[08:36] <MasterShrek> i do most from the command line anyway so the gui doesnt really matter to me
[08:36] <poningru> no wai :p
[08:36] <studeringaaron> ya thats why i would really like both so that i have that option
[08:37] <faileas> jayde_drag0n: the internet, where men are men, women are men, and little girls are FBI agents
[08:37] <jayde_drag0n> and i don't really care if its illegal or not... i am a pirate... and not only do i knwo about drm... but i can buckle a swash too :-P
[08:37] <Javid> arrrrrrrrr
[08:37] <MasterShrek> yea i installed kde as soon as i installed ubuntu, havent loaded it once yet tho lol, i use some of the progs tho
[08:37] <jayde_drag0n> LMAO little girls... fbi.... *giggle*