[00:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:00] <_Brun0_> sveakex, this confirms my vostro 1400 sound card is indeed hda-intel: http://satish.playdrupal.com/?q=node/25
[00:00] <hunt4mike> Hello, this may be a bit off topic but I was wondering if any one here was experienced with basic?
[00:01] <racecar56> is it possible to totally blank a external usb hard drive while running ubuntu?
[00:01] <riwa> If I install a program with `dpkg`, where does it install to?
[00:02] <aboleth> jscalibrator detects the joystick, but does not fix the detecting it as mouse problem
[00:02] <proq> hunt4mike: it's more than a bit
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: sure as long as its not mounted
[00:02] <aboleth> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/274203
[00:02] <racecar56> ActionParsnip how?
[00:02] <aboleth> that's the bug that caused it
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<disk name>
[00:03] <keres> what is the apt-get for the latest version of gimp?
[00:03] <racecar56> ActionParsnip how could i not have thought of that xD
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: thats why you asked
[00:04] <racecar56> ActionParsnip and i use dd a lot (iso-ing a cd and stuff)
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> keres: sudo apt-get install gimp
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: there is a zero dev which you can dd onto the device
[00:04] <racecar56> ActionParsnip yeah
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> keres: if there is a newer version you will need to find a repo with it on
[00:05] <porter1> Anyone know where all the Boost stuff gets placed in Ubuntu?
[00:05] <keres> ActionParsnip: 8.04 i downloaded the archive but i prefer a deb or something
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> porter1: do you mean boot?
[00:05] <racecar56> ActionParsnip i know about /dev/zero and stuff, i once helped someone re-create it (man zero)
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> keres: then find a deb or a repo
[00:05] <porter1> No, the Boost libraries
[00:05] <Mark_Jone1> I cant remeber the name of the guy that was PMing me about my ASUS mobo LAN, are you still here whoever you are?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> porter1: oh
[00:06] <got_milk4> Michelle5: I'm back, still need help?
[00:07] <ariqs> I'm copying over a .rar file to a flash drive, and when I put it in my vista computer, the .rar doesn't show up. When I put it back in my comp running ubuntu, it's there. What might cause  this?
[00:07] <mewmew> question
[00:07] <mewmew> how do i change from kde4 to GDM
[00:07] <racecar56> !ask | mewmew
[00:08] <KillerOrca> Hello, I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[00:08] <mewmew> i just got done installing Kubuntu-dekstop and Xubuntu desktop on my ubuntu system and i'm trying to use Xubuntu desktop mainly
[00:09] <ariqs> I'm copying over a .rar file to a flash drive, and when I put it in my vista computer, the .rar doesn't show up. When I put it back in my comp running ubuntu, it's there. What might cause  this?
[00:09] <mewmew> when i turn my comp on instead of the ubuntu symbol i now get the kubuntu symbol
[00:09] <racecar56> mewmew did u install kubuntu-desktop? that is why if u did
[00:09] <linny> ariqs: windows :)
[00:09] <U-b-u-n-t-u> mewmew when you login in the beginning choose session and then which ever windows manager you want to use
[00:09] <proq> ariqs: maybe you formatted the drive as something vista can't read
[00:09] <racecar56> linny lulz
[00:09] <ariqs> proq: it can read other things on the drive
[00:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> there should be a list there mewmew
[00:10] <mewmew> U-b-u-n-t-u, yes however it gave me the option of configing it to certain windows or something like that
[00:10] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[00:10] <got_milk4> ariqs: have you tried other files on the drive? or is it only that .rar?
[00:10] <proq> ariqs: sounds more like a vista question than ubuntu then
[00:10] <mewmew> GDM, kde, kde4
[00:10] <linny> ariqs: what fs are you using ?
[00:10] <mewmew> i want to use gdm
[00:10] <racecar56> proq agreed
[00:10] <ariqs> got_milk4, the .rar
[00:10] <KillerOrca> proq, the flash drive may be dead, I have one that I can see everything on but can
[00:10] <KillerOrca> 't add files to
[00:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> mewmew then choose gdm at the login under the drop down for session
[00:11] <mewmew> U-b-u-n-t-u, GDM is not on there
[00:11] <got_milk4> ariqs: have you tried putting the .rar in some other directory on the drive?
 GDM, kde, kde4  << thought you said it was?
[00:11] <ariqs> linny: msdos is what it says in ubuntu. I didn't format it. it was preformatted
[00:11] <ariqs> got_milk4, no, i'll give that a shot.
[00:12] <mewmew> after i installed kubuntu-desktop AND xubuntu-desktop it asked me to choose one of those (at the time i didn't know what gdm is)
[00:12] <mib_mt72c5n9> I just installed ubuntu and it wont mount an NTFS partition on a seagate freeagent pro usb drive.
[00:12] <linny> ariqs:  format it to fat32
[00:12] <KillerOrca> Hello, I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[00:12] <mib_mt72c5n9> no its full
[00:12] <riwa> If I install a program with `dpkg`, how do I find it after?
[00:13] <U-b-u-n-t-u> mewmew when you install a new windows manager it will ask you do you want to set it as the default session, but even then when you login there is a session drop down menu and you can change it
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> riwa: try typing the app name it installs
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> riwa: use tab completion
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> riwa: they usually make nice menu items for you
[00:14] <dcomxx> hi! is it possible to write the output from ping to a text file when an error happened including the date and time ?
[00:14] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Doesn't work.. I installed gtkradiant which I converted from a .rpm
[00:14] <KillerOrca> dcomxx, ping | cat "filename" maybe
[00:14] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Do i need to update the path?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: ping (something) > ~/ping.txt
[00:15] <dcomxx> yea but i only want the errors printed in that file
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> riwa: no it should put a binary in /usr/bin     converting from rpm is NOT advised
[00:15] <dcomxx> when a host is unreachable or timeouts happened
[00:15] <rNaReplicaseX> has anyone else experienced trouble with the new nvidia driver?
[00:15] <KillerOrca> dcomxx, then I would google for text matching in shells
[00:16] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Well i found a tutorial on how to install rpm uner ybuntu
[00:16] <obiwan_chernobyl> hey i wonder why ubuntu sucks so much?
[00:16] <riwa> ActionParsnip: So i did it
[00:16] <rNaReplicaseX> I updated to the newest driver and I no longer have any signal to my monitor.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: you could grep -v time
[00:16] <dcomxx> i tried with grep but didnt work ..
[00:16] <obiwan_chernobyl> try windows man
[00:16] <got_milk4> Actually, I have a question. On my HP DV7 series notebook, in order to get sound working, I had to add "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf. This fixed my really jittery audio, but the audio sounds like it's being played back in mono and the integrated subwoofer in the bottom of the notebook isn't being used at all. Any ideas?
[00:17] <obiwan_chernobyl> it beats the shit out of ubuntu
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: or som other thing (grep -v inverts grep to find what doesnt match the filter)
[00:17] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Shouldn't there be a log file for dpkg?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> riwa: rpm is different to rpm and their actions cant be guaranteed
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> riwa: not sure
[00:18] <twolane> riwa: /var/log/dpkg.log
[00:19] <racecar56> how can i make 'find */foo' get passed to rm? (delete every file called foo in all directories)
[00:19] <Davide> I'm installing WINDOWS!!!!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[00:19] <obiwan_chernobyl> well done
[00:19] <dcomxx> i write : ping ip | grep -v 'something' > file
[00:19] <dcomxx> but doesnt work ..
[00:19] <racecar56> windows takes my ages to install -_-
[00:19] <riwa> Only says: -->2009-04-10 22:33:21 status installed gtkradiant 1.5.0-7
[00:19] <riwa> Nothing about no path
[00:19] <Davide> I cant get this damn sound card to work... :(
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> riwa: try typing gtkr then press tab
[00:19] <Davide> on ubuntu
[00:20] <Davide> spent hours
[00:20] <riwa> ActionParsnip: I have
[00:20] <Davide> scunizi: hey are you here?
[00:20] <proq> dcomxx: output = $(ping -c 5 ip 2>&1);echo $(output) > file
[00:20] <linny> Davide: what card
[00:20] <mib_mt72c5n9> i just restored my windows partition too, but i'm gonna reinstall ubuntu once i can play my videos off my ntfp free agent pro usb drive.
[00:20] <Davide> eseven73: hey are you here?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> riwa: the try: sudo find / -name gtkrad*
[00:20] <ramontayag> i have an old compaq presario 1200 that i slapped xubuntu on. when i get to the login screen, it's blank. knowing the screen is okay, i plugged in an external monitor then restarted the gdm (ctrl+alt+backspace) and the login screen showed fine. then, i took out the external monitor, and i also tried alt+ctrl+f1 and alt+ctrl+f7 and the screen showed. what should i go to make the screen...
[00:20] <ramontayag> ...automatically show?
[00:20] <Davide> linny: it's an Audigy 1
[00:20] <Davide> linny: SB0090
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Davide: what does lspci say your sound card is?
[00:20] <mib_mt72c5n9> i'll just wait for the next beta to become final.
[00:21] <Davide> ActionParsnip: I'm kinda noob idk what that is.. can you explain?
[00:21] <dcomxx> whats that ? a shell script ?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Davide: type lspci in terminal, one line will identify the card, paste that ONE line in here
[00:21] <rNaReplicaseX> Is there some way I can roll back my nvidia driver via root shell in recovery mode?  I've tried to dump compiz and dpkg -l nvidia-glx
[00:22] <proq> dcomxx: that's a bit of bash
[00:22] <riwa> ActionParsnip: Thanks! It was in /opt :P
[00:22] <Davide> well I"m using mirc on a windows PC the Ubuntu installation in question is on another PC
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicaseX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:22] <Davide> but hangon
[00:22] <mib_mt72c5n9> i went to mibbit .com so i can come to the channel
[00:22] <mib_mt72c5n9> dont like mirc
[00:22] <mib_mt72c5n9> :P
[00:22] <Harpoon_> does a microatx mb work in a normal atx case
[00:22] <Davide> I'm starting to hate mirc as well
[00:23] <rNaReplicaseX> ActionParsnip That will reconfigure the windows manager-y type thing, right?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> riwa: you can create a symlink in /usr/bin to the binary so you can execute it from any where
[00:23] <Davide> think I'm gonna get xchat
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicaseX: yes but it wont use the nvidia driver
[00:23] <racecar56> i like xchat
[00:23] <linny> Davide: use pidgin :)
[00:23] <mib_mt72c5n9> i just like to run things from browser :)
[00:23] <Davide> ActionParsnip: I'm booting up just a sec
[00:23] <darthanubis> Davide, xchat is the bomb
[00:23] <racecar56> but i dont like pidgin (for irc)
[00:23] <rNaReplicaseX> ActionParsnip And then I can roll back to my original, I suppose?
[00:23] <proq> dcomxx: apparently I need some caffeine:  ping -c 5 google.com 2>&1 | grep -v "something" > file
[00:23] <mib_mt72c5n9> i wish chrome worked on ubuntu, firefox is good but i really like chrome
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicaseX: sure, the xorg.conf will use the vesa driver so you will get an x server, you can then do anything you want
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: its coming
[00:24] <riwa> ActionParsnip: I know. But thanks :)
[00:24] <mib_mt72c5n9> nice
[00:24] <mib_mt72c5n9> i dont know what it is but chrome just feels right :D
[00:24] <MementoMori> hi
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: opera feels nice here. I'm all curious though
[00:24] <drowner> hi
[00:24] <Dreamglider> Hey
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> !hi ~ MementoMori
[00:24] <mib_mt72c5n9> with privoxy of course :P
[00:25] <linny> Davide:did you go thru the forums ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: huh?
[00:25] <dcomxx> that doesnt work :S
[00:25] <KillerOrca> I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[00:25] <mib_mt72c5n9> blocks ads
[00:25] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[00:25] <mib_mt72c5n9> on windows
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> mib_mt72c5n9: browser does that for me
[00:25] <rNaReplicaseX> ActionParsnip Thank you.  I'll go right ahead and try that.
[00:25] <_Brun0_> Gow to list "not installed" hw in comand-line?
[00:26] <riwa> When I start the program I get: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". I know I've seen this errormsg many times before
[00:26] <_Brun0_> How to list "not installed" hw in comand-line?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> KillerOrca: did you reinstall a fresh OS on the new drive or is it just for data
[00:26] <dcomxx> um ok maybe making it simpler .. how can i just add the current time to each ping ?
[00:26] <mib_mt72c5n9> so any idea how i can play my videos off my ntfs drive that i can't mount.  its 750gb and its full so i can't format
[00:26] <dman777> anyone running linux on a macbook here?
[00:26] <drowner> mib_mt72c5n9: Why won't it mount?
[00:26] <KillerOrca> ActionParsnip, it is just for data.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | mib_mt72c5n9
[00:26] <Dreamglider> mib_mt72c5n9, you'll have to mount it
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> KillerOrca: then it shouldnt interfere really. weird. i'd reconfigure the settings as if they have never been set
[00:27] <mib_mt72c5n9> um i reinstalled windows but it was something like force it to do it in the terminal.  i did what it said but it didn't work
[00:27] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: do you mean hardware without a running driver?
[00:27] <mib_mt72c5n9> cool thanks i'll read through it
[00:28] <dcomxx> is it possible to add the current time to each ping ?
[00:28] <KillerOrca> ActionParsnip, ok how would I do that via command line?
[00:28] <Davide> ActionParsnip: I'm installing xchat on ubuntu so I can paste that stuff
[00:28] <rNaReplicasex> ActionParsnip Crap, I didn't copy that script right.  Could you give me the configure command again?
[00:28] <felix_da_catz> Davide: pastebin.ca works for pasting as well
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: sure, execute date before the ping, youu may have to have a script to run date then the ping repeatedly
[00:29] <MementoMori> dcomxx: using a little basj script you can
[00:29] <SiegeLord> My mouse pointer randomly jumps to the bottom of the screen. Any ideas on how to fix that? I'm on Ubuntu 8.10
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> rNaReplicasex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:29] <dcomxx> when i write date before then it prints the date only once ..
[00:29]  * rNaReplicasex properly writes it down
[00:29] <rNaReplicasex> Thanks.
[00:29] <MementoMori> dcomxx: using a little bash script you can
[00:29] <dcomxx> and how would that look like ? :)
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> !mouse | SiegeLord
[00:29] <lukeW> hi - i have a question about networking... i have a samsung nc10 - which has an atheros wifi card.. i'm using the ath5k driver and the performance isn't very good - should i move to the madfi driver?
[00:29] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip: ok so how did you want me to give you that info?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: thats why you need a script to repeat it
[00:30] <felix_da_catz> dcomxx:  You will have to run ping with an option to only ping once.  Then repeat the date and ping one more time.
[00:30] <linny> Davide-buntu: lspci
[00:30] <MementoMori> dcomxx: it's very simple. if you gimme a couple of mins i'll write it for you
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: run terminal    lspci
[00:30] <Davide-buntu> ok and just paste in here?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: one line will identify the card, write its name in here
[00:30] <Davide-buntu> or pm?
[00:30] <Davide-buntu> kk
[00:30] <dcomxx> but wont it flood then ?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: paste the SINGLE line in here
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> dcomxx: no, i only asked for one line :)
[00:31]  * drowner prepares for lspciflood
[00:31] <_Brun0_> MementoMori, "do you mean hardware without a running driver" yep, that would work
[00:31] <felix_da_catz> lol
[00:31] <dcomxx> yea mementomori pls :D
[00:31] <Davide-buntu> 02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> awesome (but no as its a creative thing)
[00:32] <ariqs> the file doesn't show up on my vista computer even with fat32 format AND renaming the file to something else
[00:32] <eseven73> Davide, you still having sound cards? I remember you from last night, well at least you're not giving up :D
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip: Just to give you some more info, I tried a few things:  I checked alsamixer, and made sure verything was unmuted, I disabled what the system was recognizing as onboard audio, even though there is no onboard audio on the MB
[00:33] <Cappy|Here> how might I install a .rpm in ubuntu?
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> did that in bios
[00:33] <eseven73> !rpm | Cappy|Here
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> followed a few sets of instructions to try to fix it and got lost...
[00:33] <Davide-buntu> eseven73:  yes still problemsx
[00:33] <SiegeLord> ActionParsnip, Those two links don't seem to have anything useful in them
[00:33] <mewmew> cappy what program are you trying to install?
[00:34] <SiegeLord> It's a USB mouse, but this happens even with the mouse detached
[00:34] <KillerOrca> ActionParsnip, no luck I'm afraid
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: disable the onboard sound in the bios
[00:34] <Cappy|Here> eseven73, thanks for your help.
[00:34] <eseven73> Davide, well you're in good hands with ActionParsnip, hang in there :)
[00:34] <Davide> ActionParsnip I already did
[00:34] <ariqs> I'm copying over a .rar file to a flash drive, and when I put it in my vista computer, the .rar doesn't show up. When I put it back in my comp running ubuntu, it's there. What might cause  this? even renaming the file doesn't help
[00:34] <eseven73> cappy np :D
[00:35] <MementoMori> dcomxx: you can use something like that
[00:35] <twolane> Davide-buntu: run asoundconf in terminal
[00:35] <MementoMori> for p in $(seq 10); do date; ping -c1 www.google.it ; done
[00:35] <Stupendoussteve> ariqs: Are you unmounting the flash drive in ubuntu before removing it?
[00:35] <SiegeLord> Oh, nvm... had my stylus on my tablet >_<
[00:35] <SiegeLord> Thanks
[00:35] <ariqs> Stupendoussteve, no, actually. I'm not
[00:35] <Stupendoussteve> ariqs: Also, what filesystem do you have on the flash drive? If it isn't fat then Windows won't be able to see anything on it
[00:35] <ariqs> fat32
[00:36] <MementoMori> dcomxx: dont remove the -c ping parameter
[00:36] <sveakex> what's the default gtk theme that ubuntu uses?
[00:36] <ariqs> Stupendoussteve, but the file shows up fine on ubuntu
[00:36] <proq> ariqs: have you googled to see if vista is ignoring it because of DRM?
[00:36] <Sh3r1ff> ariqs:  not properly unmounting it is your problem ;)
[00:37] <Davide-buntu> twolane: then what?
[00:37] <_Brun0_> MementoMori, so how can I list hardware without running driver?
[00:37] <twolane> Davide-buntu: set the default card and restart the sound service
[00:37] <ariqs> ok, copeied, unmounted. I'll go see if it works now
[00:37] <adante> hi, i have a "stale nfs file handle" on my /boot, it happens to be a kernel image
[00:38] <Davide-buntu> twolane:  like this:  asoundconf set-default-card Audigy
[00:38] <adante> how can i remove this and and possibly try to reinstall kernel?
[00:38] <Davide-buntu> ?
[00:38] <MusicGenious> what does it mean if your power supply is making a hi pitched noise and the computer wont turn on?
[00:38] <shantzu> hello
[00:38] <twolane> Davide-buntu: looks good, i'd need tol  check
[00:38] <Sh3r1ff> MusicGenious: that you have a problem with your power supply ;)
[00:38] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: you cant directly or at least I dont know if it's possible but you can have a list of all the hw you've plugged in and then check the log to know which driver is managing you hw
[00:38] <drowner> MusicGenious: Doesn't sound good. Your power supply is broken?
[00:39] <MusicGenious> is it a fixable problem or not?
[00:39] <cchaos> Hello
[00:39] <MusicGenious> idk, im fixing my friends computer and he doesnt know anything about them
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-463921.html
[00:39] <Sh3r1ff> MusicGenious: best bet is to replace the power supply
[00:39] <drowner> MusicGenious: Difficult to say.
[00:39] <sebsebseb> cchaos: hi
[00:39] <MusicGenious> and i was like ok, ill throw a clean version of xp on it and we're good... nope lol.
[00:39] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: you can list your hw using lspci or lsusb
[00:39] <shantzu> if i run ubuntu with the 2.6.27-14 kernel version, when ubuntu loads the display gets dimmed. if i run the 2.6.27-11 kernel everything's fine. any idea what could be wrong or how i could make the screen always be 100% bright? (i checked power settings and brightness is set at 100% ...)
[00:39] <cchaos> sebsebseb: he
[00:39] <drowner> MusicGenious: Are you saying it turned on OK before you installed XP?
[00:39] <cchaos> sebsebseb: Hi
[00:40] <MusicGenious> no i didnt install anything yet, it just wont turn on
[00:40] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: and you should check dmesg output and /var/log/messages
[00:40] <usser> MusicGenious, well, reseat all memory modules, expansion cards, check all cables etc, the usual stuff
[00:40] <scunizi> shantzu: did you manually install a video card driver?
[00:40] <adante> hi, can someone help me get rid of a stale nfs file handle on my /boot
[00:40] <MusicGenious> and he said it turns on but sometimes it doesnt and stuff? idk
[00:40] <cchaos> MusicGenious: reset the BIOS
[00:40] <shantzu> scunizi: i can't recall, i think i installed some ATI Driver, not sure though. could that be related to it?
[00:40] <MusicGenious> the noise it makes is scary as shit, like when i unplug the power cable from it it sounds like something is gonna explode
[00:41] <cchaos> Sounds like someone has been playing with it
[00:41] <MusicGenious> how do you reset the bios?
[00:41] <usser> MusicGenious, pull the battery out for 5 minutes
[00:41] <cchaos> MusicGenious: Look for jumper, or take out the batter
[00:41] <cchaos> MusicGenious: Look for jumper, or take out the battery
[00:41] <scunizi> shantzu: yes.. when you manually install an ati or nvidia driver it build a kernel mod.. with a new kernel you typically have to reinstall the driver
[00:41] <MusicGenious> are you talking about the little button battery?
[00:42] <cchaos> MusicGenious: yes
[00:42] <dcomxx> i found a shell script .. but how can i make it to repeat every second like normal ping command ? -> http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/6446-script-ping-date.html
[00:42] <MementoMori> dcomxx: did you got my script?
[00:42] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[00:42] <MusicGenious> ill try that and let you know in like 5 mins
[00:42] <jdu> dcomxx, run it in a loop with "sleep 1"
[00:42] <dcomxx> yea but thats flooding ..
[00:42] <Davide-buntu> TURN OFF the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack switch.
[00:42] <Davide-buntu> ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:42] <MementoMori> dcomxx: it cant flood
[00:43] <caindlazz0909> hey guys anyone use vmware workstation?
[00:43] <MementoMori> only 10 pings
[00:43] <Davide-buntu> OMG ALL THESE HOURS!!!! AND THAT'S ALL IT TOOK TO GET SOUND!!!!!!!
[00:43] <shantzu> scunizi: so if i boot in the 2.6.27-14 kernel and reinstall that driver it should run fine?
[00:43] <dcomxx> well it doesnt wait 1 sec
[00:43] <MementoMori> dcomxx: use sleep 1
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: creative garbage cards are weird at best
[00:43] <usser> dcomxx, remove -c 1 from the ping command
[00:43] <MementoMori> dcomxx: no
[00:43] <DJJeff> my sound has never worked (ubuntu 810) whats the fastest way to fix
[00:43] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much!!!
[00:43] <MementoMori> dcomxx: dont do it
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: np man
[00:43] <caindlazz0909> vmware in ubuntu that is
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> !vmware | caindlazz0909
[00:44] <Davide-buntu> ActionParsnip:  should I have anything else disabled for sound to optimal? do you know?
[00:44] <MementoMori> usser: dont suggest solutions you havent tried
[00:44] <scunizi> shantzu: that's my thought
[00:44] <usser> MementoMori, oh yea thats right, it doesnt return. my bad
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Davide-buntu: not as far as i know, if it works then let it bake
[00:45] <Davide> SWEEEEET
[00:45] <dcomxx> um then what now ?
[00:45] <shantzu> scunizi: btw, in 2.6.27-11 everything ran fine without me having to install anything, the driver i installed was just for better support of ATI video boards afaik, shouldn't that also run fine on the other kernel version, without me having to do anything?
[00:45] <vlad> how do i change the desktop to something more familiar
[00:45] <drowner> vlad: which bits are unfamiliar?
[00:46] <MementoMori> dcomxx: ?
[00:46] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: you're not talking about installing windows are you? ;)
[00:46] <MementoMori> dcomxx: what you need more?
[00:46] <Davide> ActionParsnip: If I could play the Karate Kid Song for you right now I would.. the one that plays during the 1st tournament:  YOU'RE THE BEST.... AROOOOOUND.  YOU'RE THE BEST... AROOOOOUND!!!
[00:46] <vlad> the whole stacking thing,the alignment,and shortcuts
[00:46] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: Move things around? :D
[00:46] <riegersn> is there anyway to print out a full package list of all installed packages in ubuntu? i need to compare 2 systems
[00:46] <dcomxx> well i dont have anything yet ...
[00:47] <unop> riegersn,  dpkg -l
[00:47] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: Most of the keyboard shortcuts are the same as in Windows
[00:47] <MementoMori> dcomxx: you have a script running 10 pings every sec and printing the date
[00:47] <vlad> aha,I have some experience with suse
[00:47] <lukeW> does anyone know here know about wifi drivers?
[00:47] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: So you're used to kde :) You may prefer kubuntu
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Davide: thanks :D
[00:48] <lukeW> specifically ath5k vs madwifi?
[00:48] <vlad> no kde is too slow
[00:48] <dcomxx> yea but i need to run forever
[00:48] <dmulholland> hey, does anyone know how I can pass the g++ library to the gfortran compiler so I can link my application?
[00:48] <dcomxx> and i also want the seq numbers
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: lspci; lsusb will tell you what chip you have, you can websearch from there
[00:48] <MementoMori> dcomxx: so convert it to a while loop
[00:48] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; I know the chip
[00:48] <vlad> is there a graphic interface for shorewall
[00:48] <lukeW> it's atheros
[00:49] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; but I know that there are a range of drivers... specifically ath5k vs madwifi?
[00:49] <jdu> dcomxx,       while [ true ]; do yourcommand; sleep 1; done
[00:49] <dcomxx> can i do that like in c ?
[00:49] <MementoMori> dcomxx: read the ping and printf man pages for having a better output
[00:49] <Sh3r1ff> vlad, shorewall is already a frontend for iptables, what more do you want? ;)
[00:49] <vlad> and how do I use ssh,can you point me to a good tut
[00:49] <MementoMori> dcomxx: bash syntax is different from c
[00:50] <vlad> graphics interface?
[00:50] <MementoMori> dcomxx: but uses the same idea
[00:50] <dcomxx> #!/bin/bash
[00:50] <dcomxx> LOG=~/ping.log
[00:50] <dcomxx> while[true];
[00:50] <dcomxx> do NOW=$(date)
[00:50] <dcomxx>  OUT=$(ping <IP_ADDRESS> | grep packets)
[00:50] <FloodBot2> dcomxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <dcomxx>  echo "$NOW : $OUT" >>$LOG;
[00:50] <vlad> why was the root account locked initially?
[00:51] <dcomxx> sry
[00:51] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: That's how it's shipped. I believe to discourage users from running as root all the time
[00:51] <tritium> !root | vlad
[00:51] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: to my knowledge shorewall doesn't have one, but the config files should be pretty easy to fill i
[00:51] <dcomxx> did that come thru ?
[00:51] <vlad> took me forever to make ubuntu login as oot
[00:51] <MementoMori> dcomxx: where has  the -c opt gone?
[00:51] <drowner> vlad: why do you want to login as root?
[00:51] <dcomxx> i removed ..
[00:51] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: You have to set a root password, but you shouldn't login as root anyway. Su maybe
[00:52] <dcomxx> i need that again i guess
[00:52] <MementoMori> dcomxx: bad
[00:52] <lukeW> ubottu - what aboyt sudo -s?
[00:52] <lukeW> *about
[00:52] <lukeW> ah
[00:52] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: ubuntu has root not enabled for security reasons, instead you have sudo
[00:52] <MementoMori> vlad: sudo passwd root
[00:52] <vlad> yeah I have done all that,and took care of gdm too
[00:52] <dcomxx>  OUT=$(ping -c 1 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep packets)
[00:52] <lukeW> tritium, what about sudo -s
[00:52] <lukeW> ?
[00:52] <unop> !supportroot | MementoMori
[00:52] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: normally, you should never log on or connect to a system as root
[00:52] <tritium> lukeW: what about it?  use sudo -i instead
[00:52] <Stupendoussteve> vlad: I hope by "take care" of gdm you don't meant you're logging in as root. That is a very bad idea
[00:53] <lukeW> tritium; it's pretty similar to root tho isn't it?
[00:53] <vlad> I now,but I wanted to have the option
[00:53] <vlad> I prefer su to sudo
[00:53] <lukeW> tritium; what does -i do?
[00:53] <tritium> lukeW: yes
[00:53] <MementoMori> unop: here where I live people say: "put the donkey where the boss wants"
[00:53] <drowner> vlad: Why? I'm just curious. I've used ubuntu for 5 years without logging in as root. I can't see what you need the option for
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: if you websearch the output you will find something
[00:53] <Sh3r1ff> vlad: you can use sudo su ;)
[00:53] <dcomxx> damm to many syntax errors
[00:53] <vlad> New user ,used to suse
[00:53] <tritium> lukeW: gives you root's env. config.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !paste | dcomxx
[00:54] <tritium> vlad: read that URL from ubottu.  If you want a root shell, best to use "sudo -i"
[00:54] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; I've found that the ath5k are the new drivers.. but development is ongoing, which is maybe why my performance sucks... i've just compiled the madwifi drivers, i'll try those
[00:54] <unop> MementoMori, if you like to do what your boss says 24 hours a day, 7 days a week .. then by all means, put his donkey where he wants .. but most of us aren't robots who are here all the time.
[00:54] <Anacranom> MementoMori, plz stop suggesting that, vlad if you must, then use sudo -i
[00:54] <dcomxx> http://pastebin.com/d2be2e551
[00:54] <dcomxx> could someone fix that fast ? :D
[00:55] <dcomxx> i dont know shell syntax
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: just keep trying stuff til you get something nice
[00:55] <vlad> what about NFS?
[00:55] <vlad> how do I configure it
[00:55] <MementoMori> dcomxx: if you say fast you should say please, too ;)
[00:55] <lukeW> ActionParsnip; yeah.. that's the way with linux, isn't it ;)
[00:55] <dcomxx> yes please ! :)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> lukeW: indeed
[00:55] <lukeW> good job i enjoy tweaking
[00:55] <tritium> !nfs | vlad
[00:55] <Anacranom> vlad, from client or server?
[00:55] <MementoMori> lol
[00:56] <MementoMori> dcomxx: i'm looking at your script
[00:56] <MementoMori> so just wait
[00:56] <vlad> I know I want to share some files-transfer them to the new pc
[00:56] <dcomxx> ok thanx
[00:56] <lukeW> the cloud stuff in 9.04 - is this any use to regular users using desktop?
[00:56] <vlad> both
[00:57] <vlad> server on suse,ckient on ubuntu
[00:57] <vlad> possibli server on ubuntu
[00:57] <cchaos> !virtual box
[00:58] <unop> dcomxx, what's wrong with the script?
[00:58] <dcomxx> syntax errors
[00:58] <elchi3001> hello, i am recently installed the jaunty netbook remix and have a problem with loosing the top panel, after restarting it i get a mesage that says the gcon-d is not replying, is this a known problem?
[00:58] <Anacranom> vlad, for nfs client look here: http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50&Itemid=52
[00:58] <eseven73> !virtualbox | cchaos
[00:58] <usser> dcomxx, http://pastebin.com/m753acfd5
[00:58] <vlad> thanks!
[00:59] <cchaos> eseven73: thanks
[00:59] <vlad> bye
[00:59] <cchaos> Just fancied a read lol
[00:59] <solemnwarning> What kernel version is ubuntu using atm?
[01:00] <MementoMori> dcomxx: http://pastebin.com/m4e2bab53
[01:00] <_Brun0_> MementoMori, lspci -l lists only running hardware?
[01:01] <dcomxx> and how can i get it to show the usual ping output now ? it shows always 0 ms and no seq numbers
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> _Brun0_: it shows all hardware on the pci bus
[01:01] <MementoMori> dcomxx: remove the grep
[01:01] <usser> MementoMori, why are you putting semicolons at the end of each line??
[01:02] <MementoMori> _Brun0_: lspci will show evey plugged hw
[01:02] <DavidePalm> lol
[01:02] <MementoMori> usser: i like them
[01:02] <usser> hehe
[01:02] <DavidePalm> lol
[01:02] <MementoMori> ;)
[01:02] <Kangarooo> i cannot get my video card working i installed from synaptic ati and rage driver packages searching synaptic.. so i suppose xubuntu / ubuntu doesnt automatically understands what video card i have and doesnt instals it?        lspci -v     gives     VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP
[01:02] <unop> dcomxx, http://pastebin.com/d304cc27
[01:02] <MementoMori> i dont use ; sonly in python scripts
[01:03] <racecar56> lol rage 128
[01:03] <MementoMori> racecar56: dont laught! ;)
[01:04] <MementoMori> racecar56: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 01)
[01:04] <proq> Kangarooo: yes, it does work automatically on ubuntu 8 and 9
[01:04] <_Brun0_> brb
[01:04] <racecar56> MementoMori i dont know what to say
[01:05] <proq> Kangarooo: it's also possible you installed the wrong package
[01:05] <MementoMori> racecar56: old cards are still working
[01:05] <Anacranom> Kangarooo, ati+linux = sucks, but getting better and fixes on the way
[01:05] <racecar56> MementoMori lolz
[01:05] <racecar56> sadly i have ati too :(
[01:05] <kristian_> any html/css experts out there that have time/want to have a look at my html/css, only layout.
[01:05] <Sh3r1ff> usser: it is best to use ; because newline characters are interpreted different on different types of os'es, while ; is not ;)
[01:05] <matt___> I was wondering if there is some sort of "program" I can install my server, and view a "webpage" from the server on my nokian810, and click visual icons that will be interpreted as bash commands for the system. Example, click a shutdown button on the page, and the server shutsdown. I guess I'm looking for a way for the computer to interpret html/php as bash commands?
[01:05] <dcomxx> the 2nd one doesnt work ...
[01:06] <MementoMori> racecar56: to be honest i use that card in a headless pc
[01:06] <racecar56> MementoMori ok
[01:06] <usser> Sh3r1ff, i cant imagine bash being ported to windows :)
[01:06] <mkasson> what cpus are meant for the 64 bit version of (k)ubuntu?
[01:06] <unop> usser, heard of cygwin/uwin?
[01:06] <usser> mkasson, amd64 newer intels
[01:06] <usser> unop, thats not native.
[01:06] <mkasson> usser, how new of an intel?
[01:06] <usser> mkasson, core 2 duos
[01:07] <cchaos> VB seems complicated lol
[01:07] <Sh3r1ff> usser: there is more then one version of linux, there is the many forms unix comes in, ... those are different also ;)
[01:07] <MementoMori> dcomxx: I think you'd be better with a bash programming howto below your eyes
[01:07] <unop> usser, yea?  so what executable format are cygwin's executables?
[01:07] <MementoMori> !help
[01:07] <mkasson> usser: ah cool.  pretty certain I have that
[01:07] <MementoMori> !bash howto
[01:07] <Stupendoussteve> !google | MementoMori
[01:07] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7050204#post7050204
[01:07] <MementoMori> also ubottu should study more
[01:07] <CareT> matt___:  have you tried webmin?
[01:07] <mkasson> yep. got C2D.
[01:08] <usser> unop, cygwin is an emulation layer, i mean something standalone like powershell
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> !webmin
[01:08] <BilokShem> who wants to DIE!!?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> BilokShem: i do eventually
[01:08] <MementoMori> Stupendoussteve: I was told to not paste non official links in chan
[01:08] <unop> usser,  you can take cygwin's bash.exe out of the context of the cygwin environment - and it will run fine
[01:08] <usser> unop, really? cool
[01:08] <BilokShem> ActionParsnip: TIME TO DIE!
[01:09] <weternal> is jaunty still in the +1 support channel?
[01:09] <matt___> CareT: I've tried nothing, but looking at webmin right now.
[01:09] <unop> weternal, yes
[01:09] <usser> unop, so the script written in cygwin bash, will have windows' 13,10 newline character?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> weternal: yep
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | matt___
[01:09] <Stupendoussteve> MementoMori: I didn't paste anything. If there's something non-ubuntu you can't figure out, google is your friend
[01:10] <weternal> when is the final date of the RC?\
[01:10] <RedMushroom> does anyone in here know anything about freenx remote desktop connections? i got it set up, but i cant see the active windows on the server desktop, nor can i see the client view on the server
[01:10] <usser> unop, i mean if i use cygwin vi for example
[01:10] <unop> usser, you can't write a script with bash tho :) you can write one with an editor -- but cygwin's bash will probably choke on the carriage returns
[01:10] <Sh3r1ff> weternal: 23 april
[01:10] <weternal> thanks
[01:10] <usser> unop, thats interesting, now i gotta try it
[01:10] <dcomxx> dam this is stupid .. i want a summary at the end :(
[01:10] <unop> usser, i dunno for sure, but cygwin's bash might ignore carriage returns .. like how perl or python do on windows
[01:11] <matt___> ActionParsnip: So do you have any suggestions? All I rally want to do is setup a page I can access from within my house to make repetive tasks easier.
[01:11] <centHOGGr> hi, I've checked out Rnews,Wordpress & Gallery2... what are some other web-based php progs like those? thx
[01:11] <matt___> ActionParsnip: And access the page from my nokia n810.
[01:11] <MementoMori> dcomxx: which end if your script must run "forever"
[01:11] <dcomxx> when its stopped ...
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> matt___: could write a bash script
[01:11] <MementoMori> dcomxx: which kind of summary?
[01:11] <dcomxx> like the normal ping shows
[01:11] <Sh3r1ff> dcomxx: while true never ends ;)
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> matt___: depends what repetative tasks it involves
[01:11] <dcomxx> how many packets were lost and such things
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> matt___: and access it with an ssh client
[01:12] <LargePrime> greetings.  I need a recommendation for a webcam with mic
[01:12] <RedMushroom> does anyone here know how to use FreeNX?
[01:12] <dcomxx> why cant they just add a time opetion to ping -.-
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> !ot | LargePrime
[01:12] <MementoMori> dcomxx: this is really studip ;) anyway you can find a way to store the last ping summary in a var
[01:12] <dcomxx> option*
[01:12] <matt___> ActionParsnip: The most basic thing is shutdown my server. like today I was in the living room, and it started storming, I wanted to shutdown my server, but didn't want to type stuff. The power ended up going off, etc etc. I use ssh all the time, but am just hoping that there is an easy way to setup a php/html page, that way I don't have to ssh into the machine and type out words.
[01:13] <LargePrime> greetings.  I need a recommendation for a webcam with mic compatable with ubuntu
[01:13] <RedMushroom> why cant i see wjat'
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> !ot | LargePrime
[01:13] <RedMushroom> bleh
[01:13] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: you mean that NX no machine remote?
[01:13] <RedMushroom> yeah
[01:13] <RedMushroom> and the server with it
[01:13] <RedMushroom> used on linux
[01:13] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: yeah I've use it a few times I think.. do you have all 3 components loaded up?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> matt___: theres ebox, if you dont intend to install apps in ubuntu with it then webmin is a fine choice
[01:14] <Barridus> if i added noatime and nodiratime to fstab to speed disk access, should i remove relatime?
[01:14] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: on your client side
[01:14] <RedMushroom> well, on the linux box i installed all of the available components listed in the package manager, so i'm assuming i do.
[01:14] <RedMushroom> on the client side, i dunno. i had to d/l the client from a third party source (cnet) because the nomachine site wouldn't send it
[01:14] <mib_v3l51d> hi how can i check the version of pm-utils?
[01:14] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: ok lemme that site out to refresh brb
[01:15] <RedMushroom> centHOGGr: say what?
[01:15] <kb1hzm> hello all
[01:15] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: http://www.linux.com/feature/118896 link suggests webcams may be difficult.  how is asking here ot?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> mib_v3l51d: dpkg -l | grep pm-
[01:15] <matt___> ActionParsnip: I'll note both of them.
[01:15] <mib_v3l51d> thanks ActionParsnip
[01:16] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: ok you've loaded client node server right?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: as you are not asking how to set one up, or that youu are having issues in ubuntu with one. you are asking for a recommendation which is offtopic here
[01:16] <centHOGGr> DEBs
[01:16] <centHOGGr> 3 DEBs
[01:16] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: excep if i ASK first, i dont need to come here to get it working?
[01:17] <unop> dcomxx, http://pastebin.com/d4ee5242e
[01:17] <aboleth> well i guess i'm going
[01:17] <aboleth> bye
[01:17] <RedMushroom> i dunno. i'm able to setup a connection to the remote machine, login, and see gnome in the nx window. i'm also able to use this normally, but i'm wanting to be able to see what windows i left open on the remote desktop, not just a new login
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: the recomendation is in #ubuntu-offtopic  if you have one and need help setting it up, you are in the right place
[01:18] <centHOGGr> RedMushroom: heh, sorry I really haven't messed with it that intensly, but I got connectivity though
[01:18] <tsLight> I have configured NAT in iptables typing "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE". Now I want to disable it to test something, how can I do that?
[01:18] <RedMushroom> ok then, thanks. later
[01:19] <Spreadsheet> Hello, I am sshing into a Ubuntu machine from Windows, is there any way I can open a text file on that computer using a Windows program?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> !ics | tsLight
[01:19] <Spreadsheet> On this computer that is
[01:19] <centHOGGr> hi, anybody here really into apache & php?
[01:19] <Flannel> !anyone | centHOGGr
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: you'd need to samba share the folder, if you install xming on windows you will be able to run the windows apps using x forwrding which is enabled by default
[01:20] <centHOGGr> ubuntu police
[01:20] <matt___> ActionParsnip: Ok, ebox, can it "link" to bash scripts?
[01:20] <tsLight> ActionParsnip, the internet sharing is already working :P, I just want to know how to disable or remove that rule from iptables
[01:20] <mib_v3l51d> how long does it usually take for people to reply to bug reports?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> matt___: if they are in /usr/bin i dont see why nbot
[01:20] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: What? That was confusing. So if I install xming I can run the windows app?
[01:21] <Flannel> centHOGGr: Unless you *actually* wanted to know if anyone uses Apache and PHP (and weren't going to ask a follow up question), then you've already waited at least two minutes where you could have had an answer.
[01:21] <matt___> ActionParsnip: Well, I'll try it. Will the 8.04 version work in 8.10?
[01:21] <unop> tsLight, you'd use the -F or -X options to iptables .. see the manpage
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: no, you install xming to get an x server running on your windows system
[01:21] <MementoMori> dcomxx: echo $(date) -  $(ping -c1 google.it | grep ttl);
[01:21] <tsLight> unop, thanks
[01:21] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: I see
[01:21] <Spreadsheet> So then I can run, say gedit, on the Windows comp?
[01:21] <centHOGGr> php & apache into really here anybody hi
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: if you then run gedit or kate from the ssh window, the app will run on the local system but on the windows system you will SEE the app, this is known as x forwarding
[01:22] <unop> centHOGGr, ask a real question please.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: so you can then edit the file with a gui app
[01:22] <centHOGGr> is Flannel a bot
[01:22] <centHOGGr> bot-check
[01:22] <unop> centHOGGr, no
[01:22] <Flannel> centHOGGr: Please stay on topic.
[01:22] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: OK
[01:22] <centHOGGr> hi, anybody here really into apache & php?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Spreadsheet: alternatively you can use nano / vi which run in the ssh app as a plain text editor
[01:22] <centHOGGr> I'd like to know some other progs
[01:22] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: I've been using those, kinda uncomfortable
[01:22] <Sh3r1ff> !ask | centHOGGr
[01:22] <Flannel> centHOGGr: Then ask your real question
[01:23] <centHOGGr> !police
[01:23] <centHOGGr> !ubuntu police
[01:23] <Spreadsheet> The gedit is running on the Linux machine, but I can interact with gedit on the Windows machine, yes?
[01:23]  * unop waits for centHOGGr to be kicked
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> matt___: you will need an intrepid deb for webmin as the 8.04 ones are for hardy
[01:23] <MementoMori> lol
[01:23] <Sh3r1ff> centHOGGr: unless you ask a real question, nobody is able to assist you ;)
[01:24] <Sh3r1ff> Flannel: just hope is actual question was not just if somebody here was into apache ;)
[01:24] <MementoMori> which is the sound of a falling centHOGGr if nobody is there?
[01:24] <Flannel> Sh3r1ff: If it was, he should've said something, and I could've said "yes".
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> ActionParsnip: See above comment
[01:24] <unop> Spreadsheet, if the windows machine has an X server running (through cygwin e.g.) then yea, you could interact with gedit running on a *nix machine.
[01:24] <Spreadsheet> My last one
[01:25] <matt___> ActionParsnip: This is exactly what I want do: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/63565-calling-bash-html.html If I installed a LAMP server from an ubuntu server disk, will cgi access work?
[01:25] <Spreadsheet> unop: Will Xming work?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> matt___: its not something ive used, i always use ssh
[01:25] <Sh3r1ff> Flannel: was just making a joke ;)
[01:25] <unop> Spreadsheet, i don't know very much about it .. but yea, it should
[01:25] <Spreadsheet> unop: Hmm, ok
[01:26] <matt___> ActionParsnip: I love ssh as well, but typing on my nokia n810 isn't incredibly fun.
[01:26] <unop> matt___, can you create script on your nokia?
[01:26] <unop> scripts*
[01:27] <Sh3r1ff> matt___: create a script so you just have to type the name of the script ;)
[01:27] <Sh3r1ff> matt___: any phone supports sms, so typing is enabled by default ;)
[01:27] <unop> matt___, or better still .. map the script to an icon so you just have to click it
[01:27] <sdlwof> !offtopic
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> matt___: you could make a script on your nokia to connect and autorun an app ;)
[01:28] <spaceBARbarian> anyone know how to get exaile to import a directory into your library folder ?
[01:28] <matt___> unop: That's what I'm wanting to do.
[01:29] <matt___> ActionParsnip: That could work, but I've never ssh'd into something in a script. BUt I could make a script on my nokia so that all I have to do is "Server-Shutdown"
[01:29] <unop> matt___, well - what I am talking about is an icon on the phone itself that invokes a script (on the phone again) which uses ssh to connect to your machine and run a command
[01:29] <MementoMori> is there a valid entity-relation program a linux user can use? (please dont tell dia)
[01:29] <matt___> ActionParsnip: And if it did it without any prompts, that'd work remarkebly well.
[01:30] <unop> matt___, ssh you@machine 'commands ... '
[01:30] <bruce89> sebsebseb: is that better?
[01:30] <unop> matt___, if you enable public key authentication .. then you don't even need to type a password
[01:30] <sebsebseb> bruce89: I guess, but  only if you help people and such, and not just lurk here
[01:30] <rodolfo> guys how can i identify my current network adapter working at the moment?
[01:31] <sveakex> rodolfo: ifconfig?
[01:31] <bruce89> sebsebseb: with 1325 here, who's going to notice
[01:31] <Peach> Hello there.  I need some serious help.  Running IBEX.  Something went wrrong my a change over to the nvidia177 driver today. I rebooed and I get the following error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148675/
[01:31] <MementoMori> rodolfo: iftop
[01:31] <Peach> PLEASE HELP.
[01:31] <Mike_lifeguard> I want to delete a folder in /usr/share but that doesn't appear in the context menu. I guess that means I don't have sufficient permissions there... can I do it with sudo in terminal or something?
[01:31] <sebsebseb> bruce89: true, but that's  not a good thing about this channel really, how loads of people in it, that never chat in it
[01:31] <matt___> unop: That will work, I'll just have to setup ssh keys for root, that way I don't have to use sudo in the command. Thanks, that'll workk.
[01:32] <matt___> unop: I think I like that idea :)
[01:32] <Sh3r1ff> Mike_lifeguard: normally yes
[01:32] <Floops> can youu install ubuntu on a g3 mac
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: hi
[01:33] <Mike_lifeguard> Sh3r1ff: ok, so I'd use 'cd /usr/share' & then how to delete?
[01:33] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: hi
[01:33] <bruce89> Mike_lifeguard: anything outside of ~/ is not yours
[01:33] <Mike_lifeguard> hello, sebsebseb ^_^
[01:33] <Sh3r1ff> Mike_lifeguard: sudo rm <filename>
[01:33] <rodolfo> sveakex, MementoMori, I mean the hardware that's working so I can browser the net
[01:33] <bruce89> Mike_lifeguard: sudo rm -fr blah
[01:33] <HammerHead66> sebsebseb: hello
[01:33] <unop> Floops, I believe so .. I think Linus Torvalds uses a Mac G3
[01:33] <Sh3r1ff> Mike_lifeguard: make sure you have the right filename though, don't want to delete things you still need ;)
[01:33] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, thanks guys
[01:33] <xiamx> I have a dbus-python_0.82.4.orig.tar.gz  and diff.gz  .dsc file, how can I build this into deb package and install it?
[01:33] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: your here for Ubuntu help?
[01:33] <sveakex> rodolfo: ok
[01:34] <HammerHead66> no to help out when I can
[01:34] <rodolfo> sveakex, MementoMori, I used to use the intel wireless hardware to get connected but now I'm using ta new nobo with atheros driver
[01:34] <unop> xiamx, are they all in the same folder?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: your the guy,  I am thinking of?
[01:34] <xiamx> unop: yup
[01:34] <bruce89> xiamx: not that easy
[01:34] <bruce89> xiamx: you'll need to install pbuilder
[01:34] <TheBase> hello
[01:34] <HammerHead66> sebsebseb: for?
[01:34] <Peach> Hello there.  I need some serious help.  Running IBEX.  Something went wrrong my a change over to the nvidia177 driver today. I rebooed and I get the following error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148675/
[01:34] <sebsebseb> TheBase: hi
[01:34] <unop> xiamx,   cd to that folder and issue this command.   apt-get source -b dbus-python
[01:34] <Floops> thanks unop .. i will try to install then
[01:35] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: American guy in Australlia?  that I helped with Ubuntu
[01:35] <sveakex> rodolfo: what atheros are you using?
[01:35] <rodolfo> sveakex There is the closed source driver available but neither one (open and closed drivers) are as good as intel..funny thing is on windows it really works
[01:35] <TheBase> I have a ubuntu 4.2 and I wanted to upgrade it to 8.10. Can that be done or is the version difference too long?
[01:35] <rodolfo> sveakex the open source driver
[01:35] <rodolfo> sveakex is this a driver issue?
[01:35] <HammerHead66> sebsebseb:  na, sorry you have the wrong guy man
[01:35] <bruce89> TheBase: 4.2?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> HammerHead66: ok
[01:36] <sveakex> rodolfo: i am not sure what your question is
[01:36] <nicklas_> anyone here involved in or know anything about opengeu?
[01:36] <eseven73> 4.10 you mean?
[01:36] <Sh3r1ff> TheBase: how long have you not used it? ;)
[01:36] <TheBase> Bruce, I think so. This is my /proc/version :
[01:36] <TheBase> Linux version 2.6.24-23-generic (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 01:04:16 UTC 2009
[01:36] <xiamx> unop: got it thanks
[01:36] <infomomo> how to know what tty my copm port is on ???
[01:36] <bruce89> TheBase: lsb_modules -a
[01:36] <Peach> All, I need help with a driver problem.  The problem driver can't be fixed.  Can only access terminal.
[01:36] <TheBase> Sh3r1ff, I've been using it. Just keeping my packages updated
[01:36] <xiamx> bruce89:  I got it from unop's way, thank you for your help anyway
[01:36] <bruce89> TheBase: lsb_release -a
[01:36] <YixilTesiphon> How do I install an older version of the kernel, which I have in cache?
[01:37] <Sh3r1ff> TheBase: 4.2 is the version of gcc, not ubuntu ;)
[01:37] <loquitus_of_borg> How do I extract the files out of a .deb file? I tried to open it with the archive manager but was not able to make much of it
[01:37] <TheBase> bruce89, 8.04 :p
[01:37] <rodolfo> sveakex I'm asking about performance
[01:37] <TheBase> 4.2 is the gcc then
[01:37] <bruce89> TheBase: do-release-upgrade for CLI way
[01:37] <rodolfo> sveakex I know this has to do with the driver being used so
[01:37] <judget__> Ive got this USB drive that had a e2fs partition yesterday and today it is gone
[01:37] <sveakex> rodolfo: so you are having worse perfomance with an atheros network card?
[01:37] <bruce89> loquitus_of_borg: look at the data.tar.gz in the deb
[01:38] <sveakex> rodolfo: than with the intel card?
[01:38] <rodolfo> sveakex which one should I choose, the open or closed source driverw
[01:38] <judget__> can anyone recomend a partition recovery utility for ubuntu
[01:38] <rodolfo> sveakex yeah
[01:38] <lfaraone> Hi, is there any multi-user video conferenceing software for linux? (as in more than two people)
[01:38] <TheBase> bruce89, cool. I'm guessing it will keep my data and now overwrite my user home, etc... , right?
[01:38] <rodolfo> sveakex neither wire/wireless network do NOT run as fast as it does on windows
[01:38] <bruce89> judget__: photorec
[01:39] <Peach> lfaraone... try OOVOO.  It has dl for windows & mac.  Maybe for linux.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> judget__: foremost and dd_rescure
[01:39] <bruce89> TheBase: of course
[01:39] <sveakex> rodolfo: i'd go for the closed source driver, the people who make the card probably know how to make the best drivers for them
[01:39] <TheBase> bruce89, Just to make sure.
[01:39] <TheBase> :) Thanks
[01:39] <rodolfo> sveakex and I don't know how to identify the hardware in first place
[01:39] <sveakex> rodolfo: type lspci in the terminal and you will find the hardware you are using
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> judget__: foremost can scan bad partitions and copy data over that matches your criteria, easier way is to restore from your last backup
[01:39] <tleeonly> anybody know how to use the terminal to log on to a telnet bbs
[01:39] <rodolfo> sveakex yeah that makes sense
[01:40] <TheBase> do-release-upgrade
[01:40] <TheBase> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[01:40] <TheBase> No new release found
[01:40] <TheBase> :(
[01:40] <FloodBot2> TheBase: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <WebcamWonder> !upgrade | TheBase
[01:40] <TheBase> I'll check it
[01:40] <TheBase> thanks
[01:40] <Peach> Could someone please help with an nvidia issue.
[01:40] <Sh3r1ff> tleeonly: telnet IP? ;)
[01:40] <judget__> my last backup is aover a week old
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> TheBase: use gksudo
[01:40] <bruce89> TheBase: actually, do-release-upgrade -c maybe
[01:40] <tleeonly> i only have the address not the ip
[01:41] <Sh3r1ff> tleeonly: works as well ;)
[01:41] <bruce89> TheBase: LTS releases only check for LTSs you see
[01:41] <tleeonly> ok
[01:41] <R0b0t1> Is there perchance a way to see what drivers I have? I remember activating a proprietary one and I can't remember which one it is.
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> judget__: harsh, then recover what you can then use your backup to fill the holes of what is unrecoverable
[01:41] <rodolfo> sveakex please check it out @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/148685/
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> judget__: i dont believe the filenames are preserved if the corruption is sufficient
[01:41] <WebcamWonder> Peach: What is your problem? Someone might be able to help, if you tell us your problenm
[01:42] <Peach> WebCamWonder; Running IBEX.  Something went wrrong my a change over to the nvidia177 driver today. I rebooed and I get the following error.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148675/
[01:42] <sveakex> rodolfo: line 23 is your wireless card
[01:42] <TheBase> bruce89, I see. Thanks again
[01:42] <WebcamWonder> Peach: What were you switching from?
[01:42] <R0b0t1> Is there a way I can check which GFX driver I am using?
[01:43] <rodolfo> sveakex is it? i thought it is talking about the wireless LAN card adapter
[01:43] <kitchenrange> hey everyone im back with another noob mistake...
[01:43] <kitchenrange> :)
[01:43] <rodolfo> sveakex I'm currently using the wired connection -sorry I forgot to mention this-
[01:43] <dman777> anyone here using linux on a macbook?
[01:43] <Mike_lifeguard> I've connected an mp3 player to my computer via USB, but it is not recognized by ubuntu. Do I need to mount it as a drive or something to use it?
[01:43] <Peach> webcamwonder: Actually , Synaptci showed I had received an updated nvidia driver... somnething like 180 or something.  I was switching FROM 177 to 180.
[01:43] <WebcamWonder> R0b0t1: You can check the modules using, lsmod, but you need to have some hints regarding what module you are looking for
[01:43] <lfaraone> Peach: yeah, it looks like I'm out of luck. no *nix support.
[01:44] <sveakex> rodolfo: then you are using the hardware on line 22
[01:44] <R0b0t1> WebcamWonder: I think it was nVidia. I'm on an iMac.
[01:44] <Peach> lafaraone... 10-4.
[01:44] <Sh3r1ff> !ask | kitchenrange
[01:44] <rodolfo> sveakex ooops they're not the same -_-
[01:44] <kitchenrange> So, I was reading through on how to correctly use port forwarding, and I was editing my /etc/network/interfaces.  The problem is that I accidentally saved over my old one without backing up my old one.  How would i reset my network?  I wasnt asking sherriff
[01:44] <WebcamWonder> R0b0t1: lsmod | grep nvidia, if that returns anything, you are using closed source drivers, else open source
[01:45] <sveakex> rodolfo: hehe, one is wired, the other is wireless
[01:45] <WebcamWonder> Peach: So, are you even getting a GUI right now?
[01:45] <Mike_lifeguard> AH! opening rhythmbox makes it detected
[01:45] <tleeonly> thanks
[01:45] <Peach> WebCamWonder: no.  X won't start.  Can only access terminal.
[01:45] <R0b0t1> WebcamWonder: Nothing but I know it is proprietary
[01:45] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Go into X.org, and switch to nv
[01:45] <rodolfo> sveakex yep..since 'hardware driver' from ubuntu just tell me about the atheron closed source driver being available I think it's safe to say that I'm using the open source driver available for this adapter
[01:46] <rodolfo> sveakex and this is bad because I have no other option to switch...my connection is 3MB and it looks like 256Kbps
[01:46] <wzssyqa> the cuda toolkit is not Compatible with 9.04?
[01:46] <Mike_lifeguard> hmm, well the player detectes that it's connected & rhythmbox does too, but I still can't see any way to send files to the player :\
[01:46] <WebcamWonder> R0b0t1: Do a, lsmod | grep nv
[01:46] <Peach> how to swtich to nv in x.org?  You mean xorg.conf , not x?
[01:47] <kitchenrange> How would i reset my internet settings on ubuntu?
[01:47] <bruce89> rodolfo: that's average for here
[01:47] <Peach> plz. reword.  thanks.
[01:47] <rodolfo> sveakex then waht would you do?
[01:47] <scunizi> WebcamWonder: Peach it's not x.org buy sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to switch to the nv driver.
[01:47] <sveakex> rodolfo: look around in the gnome menu to look for what drivers it is using
[01:47] <Mike_lifeguard> heh, because it's not supported in rhythmbox
[01:47] <scunizi> *buy=but
[01:47] <Titan8990> Peach, Driver "nv"  in xorg.conf
[01:47] <R0b0t1> WebcamWonder: Ok, well, I found it, but I can't find the version. ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRC graphics driver
[01:47]  * Mike_lifeguard searches for something that /does/ support that
[01:48] <Mike_lifeguard> Although, if I could just place files on the device manually, it'd work just fine
[01:48] <Peach> ok... I tried switching back to a previous, default xorg.conf file and it didn't work.
[01:48] <eseven73> whos gonna buy nano? I thought everything in linux was free? Hehe j/k scunizi :P
[01:48] <Mike_lifeguard> but that means mounting it, I assume
[01:48] <rodolfo> sveakex network tools?
[01:48] <scunizi> eseven73: :)
[01:48] <Sh3r1ff> eseven73: why use nano if you have vi? ;)
[01:48] <martin-> speed :P
[01:49] <eseven73> I heard that Sh3r1ff :D  my main nick is _VIM_
[01:49] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: 'cause nano has a human readable menu :)
[01:49] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Could you pastebin your current xorg.conf?
[01:49] <sveakex> rodolfo: no, there should be an item which shows which drivers you are using
[01:49] <kitchenrange> This has to be one of the easiest questions ever asked on a regular basis in here, How would i reset my network settings?
[01:49] <Peach> unfortunately, no.
[01:50] <Peach> I'm on a seperate windows computer now.
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> Sh3r1ff: i find nano more human, vi has weird command mode which i personally find surplus and confusing
[01:50] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Do you have internet on that PC?
[01:50] <scunizi> kitchenrange: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart I believe
[01:50] <Raylz> i added users with adduser but they are not displayed in my gdm theme
[01:50] <lenevasconcellos> helo
[01:50] <Raylz> what can i do?
[01:50]  * eseven73 used to respect ActionParsnip
[01:50] <eseven73> :P
[01:50] <Cyberman> Hi everyone!, I've a question... I'm pretty new at linux, I mean... I've installed it several times on my PC but i've gotten desperate and got back to Windows.... right now I'm trying to setup a "mythbuntu" box...
[01:50] <Peach> the weird thing is... I got the same error upon boot up as I did wit hthe other xorg.conf file.
[01:50] <bruce89> eseven73: heh
[01:51] <Peach> Actually, I had 3 backups and none of them had any affect.
[01:51] <unop> ActionParsnip, try going to line 5000 in a jiffy with nano :)
[01:51] <Sh3r1ff> scunizi, ActionParsnip: depends on what you want, if you get used to vi, it is as easily as nano, but way exceeds the possibilities of nano
[01:51] <Cyberman> My Motherboard is an Intel D975XBX with 6Gb DDR2 RAM and 2 160Gb hard drives...
[01:51] <WebcamWonder> Peach: That probably means you are still using the nvidia driver... oepn up xorg.conf, and tell me if you see a line something like Driver "nvidia"
[01:51] <Peach> one sec.
[01:51] <Cyberman> I'm tryint to setup my HDDs as a RAID 1 array
[01:52] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: well.. OF COURSE.. vi is a mazaratti.. nano is a geo metro.. but most of us don't need a mazaratti to go from point a to b
[01:52] <Cyberman> so that I can get as much as 6Gbps out of my HDDs as well as 320GB of capacity...
[01:52] <Peach> WebCamWonder: yep... "Section Device"         Driver "nvidia"
[01:52] <kitchenrange> scunizi: for some reason it is telling me that command not found
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> unop: nano +107 filename
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> Peach: Great, backup the current xorg.conf (just for the sake of it), and change that to Driver "nv"
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> unop: will go to line 107 in nfilename ;)
[01:53] <Peach> doing it now.
[01:53] <Cyberman> when I run Mythbuntu's setup, it doesn't recognize the raid... instead, it recognizes two 160Gb HDDs....
[01:53] <Peach> done.
[01:53] <Peach> reboot?
[01:53] <scunizi> kitchenrange: then I got it wrong.. but the only wrong part is the "network" statement.. everything else remains..
[01:53] <Sh3r1ff> scunizi: indeed you don't, but if you are able to drive the mazaratti, i would pick the mazaratti ;)
[01:53] <luis_> hola
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> Peach: a, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, should do just fine :)
[01:53] <luis_> i am mexican...
[01:53] <crweb2> Cyberman, i don't believe ubuntu supports raid install via default
[01:53] <Peach> will do.
[01:53] <crweb2> Cyberman, you need a -alternative cd
[01:53] <eseven73> !es | luis_
[01:53] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, I can log into the server over ssh at "matt" without a password, but I cannot log into the system at all as root. I have to ssh in as matt and then sudo su. How can I fix this?
[01:53] <luis_> sorry my english is bad!
[01:53] <scunizi> Sh3r1ff: I'd be tempted to spin donuts around my text files :)
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> matt: you never sudo su, you sudo -i
[01:54] <luis_> mexicans??
[01:54] <luis_> spanish??
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !es |  luis_
[01:54] <eseven73> luis_, type /join #ubuntu-es
[01:54] <eseven73> sebsebseb, I did that already
[01:54] <bruce89> !mx | luis_
[01:54] <Cyberman> Windows instead recognizes only one 320Gb Hard drive.... can anyone tell me if there's like a "Windows F6" procedure?
[01:54] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok ok, but I cannot ssh in as root, which I want to do. Oh wait oh wait, ubuntu has the root account disabled by default doesn't it?
[01:54] <dawson> Hi I'm having a problem with Jaunty. For some reason it is not detecting my external usb drive until I replug it.
[01:54] <sebsebseb> eseven73: no
[01:54] <Sh3r1ff> scunizi: if you gatta spin, you might as well spin in style ;)
[01:54] <dawson> Any ideas what could be happening?
[01:54] <unop> ActionParsnip,  fair enough .. so you've gotten to line #107 .. now get to line #5000 without restarting nano :)
[01:54] <scunizi> bruce89: mx is a dirt bike
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> !jaunty | dawson
[01:54] <sebsebseb> eseven73: it says I did what I did first,  we did it about the same time
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> matt: yes and its massively unsecure to enable it
[01:55] <crweb2> Cyberman, is it hardware raid?
[01:55] <Cyberman> crweb2, you're telling me I need a -alternative CD... how can I get or make such a CD?
[01:55] <eseven73> sebastien, you must be lagging then :P
[01:55] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, so how am I going to be able to ssh into the server and shut it down?
[01:55] <Cyberman> yes.... it's a hardware RAID. embedded on the motherboard.
[01:55] <Peach> WebCamWonder: If you were a chick, I'd ask you out on a DATE!!!!!!!
[01:55] <matt> ActionParsnip: all from one script from a remote computer?
[01:55] <crweb2> Cyberman, fakeraid or real raid?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Cyberman: the channel seems rather instant, but  my client  Konversation  does say down there:   Lag:  131 ms
[01:55] <Peach> WebCamWonder:  that means it worked!  once again.... thank you guys VERY MUCH.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> eseven73: uh I sent to wrong guy see above
[01:56] <scunizi> matt: ssh <server@ipaddress> once logged in then sudo shutdown -P now will shut EVERYTHING down including power..
[01:56] <bruce89> scunizi: also the ISO code for Mexico
[01:56] <divXjunk> hi ppl. I installed 'jack' and 'mixxx'. The sound from mixxx gets to the audio card, so I hear the mp3 playing. But for no reason at all, the sound just dies for a couple of seconds, and then comes back again. No errors in mixxx or jack. I'm on ubuntu 8.10. Somebody who knows about this, I would really appreciate some help!!
[01:56] <WebcamWonder> Peach: LOL. That was the easy part, getting your GUI to work with the opensource drivers, now is the hard part, fixing the broken packages on your PC
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Cyberman: sent to wrong guy heh
[01:56] <crweb2> Cyberman, fakeraid depending on your motherboard might not be supported. I don't know much about that
[01:56] <scunizi> bruce89: well yea.. but that's no fun
[01:56] <Cyberman> I think it's real... I set it up from the RAIDs BIOS....
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> matt: you can add yourself to the sudo group and edit /etc/sudoers to allow that group membership to run stuff without a password
[01:56] <Peach> yeah.  I'm going to try to fix that now.  Thank you much for your advice.  I REALLY appreciate it.
[01:56] <bruce89> scunizi: no, carry on then
[01:56] <matt> scunizi: But.........I would have to type the password wouldn't i?
[01:56] <crweb2> Cyberman, what motherboard?
[01:56] <Cyberman> Windows recognizes the RAID as an INTEL HDD RAID....
[01:56] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, that's cool.
[01:56] <Cyberman> D975XBX
[01:56] <matt> ActionParsnip: Is that safe?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> matt: its a bit better
[01:57] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, but It'll work.
[01:57] <scunizi> matt: to shut down or log in via ssh.. via ssh ..yes you'll need a password but to shutdown .. well yes it will as for one
[01:57] <WebcamWonder> Peach: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, and make sure that all the nVidia drivers are uninstalled /de-activated
[01:57] <matt> scunizi: Not if I use other stuff...................................................
[01:57] <histo> Cyberman: linux doesn't see the raid? is it software or hardware based?
[01:57] <scunizi> matt: like?
[01:57] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, adding myself to the sudo grup...tell me.
[01:58] <matt> scunizi: ssh keys
[01:58] <Cyberman> Linux doesn't see it... and it's a HARDWARE based RAID...
[01:58] <matt> scunizi: and add myself to the sudo group.
[01:58] <crweb2> Cyberman, i think its actually a fakeraid
[01:58] <scunizi> matt: ok.. so you'll automate it.. great.. same effect though
[01:58] <histo> !raid | Cyberman
[01:58] <crweb2> Cyberman, hardware raid usually costs about $250+ by itself
[01:58] <matt> ActionParsnip: How can I add myself to the group over cli?
[01:59] <Cyberman> how can I know if it's a fakeraid or a real one?
[01:59] <luis_> mexicans??
[01:59] <histo> matt: whats the issue?
[01:59] <matt> histo: I want to add myself to the sudo group.
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> mattsure
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[01:59] <crweb2> Cyberman,  well, fakeraid is just what it is called when a motherboard says it can raid0 or raid1 but the support is completely done by a software driver
[01:59] <Cyberman> I'm a mexican Luis, but I won't speak spanish in this channel.
[02:00] <histo> matt: you add yourself to the admin group to have sudo access
[02:00] <Cyberman> ok... My MB says that... but the RAID's management is done entirely via hardware...
[02:00] <sebsebseb> matt: you can add the  user account with  adduser in terminal, and then edit the groups easilely graphically :d
[02:00] <matt> sebsebseb: Not on a remote server :)
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> matt: sudo adduser $USER sudo
[02:00] <crweb2> Cyberman, no via bios
[02:00] <histo> matt: groupadd
[02:00] <crweb2> Cyberman, hardware raid the system never sees the drives all access is done via a separate controller
[02:00] <matt> ActionParsnip: it'd be sudo adduser matt sudo, wouldn't it?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> matt: oh on a server,  well then yeah I guess not, unless a GUI is installed, but for just that hummm, not much point
[02:00] <histo> matt: nvm dont' use group add hold up
[02:00] <crweb2> Cyberman, the bios setup just tells the raid driver that you install in windows what to do
[02:01] <histo> matt: admin is the group not sudo
[02:01] <Roasted> I'm trying to set up a samba network. I already have one set up on my main desktop but I'm trying to create a simple one on my spare desktop and I can't get it to work. On a windows laptop when I ping my main desktop by hostname, it works. W hen I ping the secondary one, which is the problematic one, it errors out and says it has no idea what it is.  How can I get samba to recognize my host name so it can work?
[02:01] <histo> matt: there is no sudo group
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> matt: yeah, mine works even though I dint know your user name ;)
[02:01] <Cyberman> that's correct... once I setup the RAID... the BIOS sees an INTEL HDD RAID instead of two maxtor drives.
[02:01] <crweb2> Cyberman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto#head-7918ab0def192cdf40484077136a40241732c669
[02:01] <crweb2> Cyberman, unless you paid 300+ for the mb, you have fake raid
[02:01] <histo> matt: sudo adduser matt admin
[02:02] <Cyberman> I paid some $350
[02:02] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, that's cool, the variable I mean.
[02:02] <Cyberman> as I recall..
[02:02] <matt> ActionParsnip: Now...the sudoers file thing....
[02:02] <histo> Cyberman: try the directions from ubottu
[02:02] <crweb2> Cyberman, ok, double checking but look over that link
[02:02] <Cyberman> it's an Intel EXTREME series MB
[02:02] <_Brun0_> Can anyone help me getting my sound to work? It works in 8.10 live CD and normal ubuntu installation. But I can't get it to work in ubuntu command-line + icewm: http://pastebin.com/m7f46ea14
[02:02] <histo> _Brun0_: instlal alsa
[02:03] <histo> !sound | _Brun0_
[02:03] <Cyberman> ok... brb... checking the links
[02:03] <crweb2> Cyberman, http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121016
[02:04] <crweb2> Cyberman, 0/1/0+1/5 Matrix RAID  fake raid
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> matt: sudo cp /etc/sudoers /etc/sudoers_old; gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[02:04] <Itacious> Hello, I'm compiling linux kernel <IP_ADDRESS> and I wish to choose my processor type, but I'm not sure which option I should pick. I have a Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo). Thanks!
[02:04] <matt> ActionParsnip: Well, I've tried sudo , and it doesn't ask for a password. Sure I need to do that?
[02:05] <ManateeLazyCat> crdlb: I found notify-send can't show up when have a fullscreen application is running, any idea?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> matt: thats because there is a sudo grace period
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> matt: the group membership doesnt kick in til you relog in
[02:05] <matt> ActionParsnip: Surely not after logging out of ssh and back into though :)
[02:05] <histo> ActionParsnip: is he trying to not have a password?
[02:05] <Sumpygump> @matt Have you used sudo in the last fifteen minutes? If so, you don't have to retype the password.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> matt: then experiment, see if its ok
[02:05] <tt5786> hey all after some help i am trying to copy files from a folder on my desktop to a folder on the hard-drive but i dont have the permissions
[02:06] <_djsl_> get the permissions , it´s simple :P
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> tt5786: do you mean on an external hard drive?
[02:06] <matt> ActionParsnip: I will, I'm booting my nokia n810 now, going to write a script to eject my cd, because I CANNOT reboot right now, backing up files. So...how does the ssh with command thing go?
[02:06] <Roasted> I'm trying to set up a samba network. I already have one set up on my main desktop but I'm trying to create a simple one on my spare desktop and I can't get it to work. On a windows laptop when I ping my main desktop by hostname, it works. W hen I ping the secondary one, which is the problematic one, it errors out and says it has no idea what it is.  How can I get samba to recognize my host name so it can work?
[02:06] <histo> ActionParsnip: adding him to sudoers will still prompt for password. he just needs to add his user to the group admin though
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> tt5786: the files on the desktop are on a hard drive you know'
[02:06] <mrwes> tt5786, try alt F2 and then gksu nautilus and then copy the files
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> histo: you also need to uncomment part of /etc/sudoers
[02:06] <tt5786> yes but those files i can access and move but can not compy them to lets say the filestraem
[02:07] <histo> Roasted: unfortunately with linux you would need your own dns to ping by hostnames
[02:07] <ManateeLazyCat> notify-send can't show up notify window when have a *fullscreen* application is running, how to fix? I test it in Debian, haven't this problem, but in Ubuntu can't work. Any help? Thanks!
[02:07] <mrwes> histo, unless he put them in /etc/hosts :)
[02:07] <Roasted> histo - that makes no sense how I can ping 1 linux computer and connect to that computer through samba yet the other computer doesn't work, period.
[02:08] <Itacious> Anybody?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> tt5786: check your mounting options
[02:08] <histo> Roasted: you can try setting the netbios name
[02:08] <Roasted> histo - I did.
[02:08] <histo> Roasted: are you pinging from windows?
[02:08] <Roasted> yes - XP
[02:08] <tt5786> thanls
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Itacious: i'd ask in #gentoo, those guys do that loads
[02:08] <kaffien> how do I read a ntfs drive from ubuntu?
[02:08] <histo> Roasted: windows networks suck who knows which machine is controlling the master browsing.
[02:08] <tt5786> mrwes
[02:08] <kaffien> is there a packages  i need ?
[02:08] <mrwes> tt5786, yes?
[02:08] <Itacious> Nevermind, I'll try Pentium M... Core Duo appears to derived from that.
[02:09] <Roasted> histo - I'm willing to bet if windows networks suck then it wouldn't be able to ping my main linux desktop. But since it can, it's easy to rule that one out.
[02:09] <Itacious> Thanks, ActionParsnip.
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> kaffien: mount it to an empty folder, linux can read ntfs natively, if you want to write to it you need ntfs-3g
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> kaffien: ntfs-3g does it. It should be installed by default on a regular install. You should just try to access the drive, and it should mount it for you
[02:09] <Sh3r1ff> Roasted: try adding the host to /etc/hosts
[02:09] <Roasted> this is a real quick and dirty samba setup, so I have a feeling I missed a step, yet I am unsure of what step because I traced back my steps and compared it to my main desktop and I can't see anything that's different.
[02:09] <histo> Roasted: netbios can take 15-20minutes to propagate to other machines
[02:09] <kaffien> ActionParsnip, it will not mount
[02:09] <Roasted> histo - ahhhh that's right
[02:09] <histo> Roasted: the way the networks work sucs
[02:09] <Roasted> histo - I remember that now
[02:09] <genii> Roasted: Make sure smbfs is installed
[02:10] <progenitus> Hi, I cant get Jaunty to recognize my Sansa mp3 player. It is set as a mass storage device. Kubuntu or any other distro I tried detects it flawlessly.... Any idea?
[02:10] <Wavesonics> hey I want to get the mail() function working on my LAMP server, what email server should i install?
[02:10] <WebcamWonder> !jaunty | progenitus
[02:10] <Roasted> smbfs is not installed, but it doesn't need to be installed. It's not installed on my main desjktop.
[02:10] <histo> Roasted: its a horrible way of doing things
[02:10] <kaffien> do i need to....   mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/hdd ?
[02:10] <Mike_lifeguard> OK, I found my usb device using 'lsusb' -- but how can I mount it if it's not shown in 'fdisk -l'?
[02:10] <mrwes> kaffien, sudo mount....
[02:10] <Roasted> would restarting the XP computer have a better chance of it working?
[02:11] <kaffien> yeah sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/hdd
[02:11] <matt> ActionParsnip: Ok, sudoers file, It's needed.
[02:11] <kaffien> i get unknown  filesystem ntfs
[02:11] <Cyberman> it seems this is gonna take me some time to read and understand.... especially knowing wether my MB has a softRAID, a fakeraid or a real one... I'll try that later on... right now I don't have the time.... thank you very much anyway... see you later..
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> kaffien: you'll need to make the folder /mnt/hdd if you wanna use that
[02:12] <Wavesonics> What is the best commandline mail client?
[02:12] <kaffien> im using 2.6.21-4 kernel
[02:12] <kaffien> i've made the dir
[02:12] <_Brun0_> histo, i'm using ubuntu command-line install. please read the pastebin.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> matt: yep, edit it (its glaringly obvious where) to get it sorted
[02:12] <kaffien> it's saying the ntfs is an invalid filesystem
[02:12] <mrwes> kaffien, then do a chown yourusername:yourusername /mnt/hdd
[02:12] <mrwes> er sudo of couse
[02:12] <mrwes> course *
[02:12] <matt> ActionParsnip: I think I did it, but I'm not sure if it'll work until I reboot.
[02:12] <kaffien> yes mr wes
[02:12] <kaffien> its not giving me access errors
[02:13] <kaffien> its telling me ntfs is invalid
[02:13] <TheFuzzball> How do I get imagemagick working with PHP?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> matt: good luck dude, you have that backup file so you can easily rollback
[02:13] <WebcamWonder> kaffien: Did you compile the kernel yourself?
[02:13] <mrwes> kaffien, is the drive formatted ntfs?
[02:13] <matt> ActionParsnip: Not exactly :( All it does is backup the files from my desktop to my server, in terms of data and music.
[02:13] <_Brun0_> Why alsamixer correctly shows my sound card and aplay -l cant?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> matt: no, the command i gave backed up the original file before editing
[02:16] <Roasted> histo - This laptop has dual boot. I booted to Ubuntu. I cannot ping or connect to the other computer I just set up samba on, which is runnign intrepid.
[02:16] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, I never ran it :)
[02:16] <kaffien> the drive is ntfs
[02:16] <kaffien> i wasnt thinking lol
[02:16] <kaffien> the kernel is just a generic gernel
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> matt: i always advise a rolback clause
[02:17] <kaffien> i havent bothered compiling because im low on battery power
[02:17] <Roasted> histo - I lied. It wasnt able to ping my main desktop by hostname either. I connected to it successfully with ubuntu to ubuntu. XP partition didnt recognize the hostname yet.
[02:17] <spaceBARbarian> anyone know how to get exaile to import a directory into your library folder ?
[02:17] <matt> ActionParsnip: Right, I know.
[02:17] <WebcamWonder> kaffien: Try, the ntfs-3g as the driver name
[02:17] <kaffien> will try
[02:17] <matt> ActionParsnip: %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[02:18] <matt> isn't that right?
[02:18] <kristian_> anyone know of a free webhost with php? :-)
[02:18] <WebcamWonder> !ot | kristian_
[02:18] <histo> Roasted: on the ubuntu machine make sure samba is installed also edit the /etc/nsswitch.conf and change the line that says hosts: files dns  to hosts: files wins dns
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> matt: the comments say so
[02:18] <histo> Roasted: then the linux computers should be able to ping by netbios name
[02:18] <swearengen> How do I unmount a partition?
[02:18] <histo> Roasted: err wins
[02:18] <mrwes> kristian_, yah...Ubuntu server via dyndns
[02:18] <zack> hi, i'm trying to install acrobat reader plugin for firefox on 8.10. i read the doc here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Adobe_Acrobat_Reader_for_Firefox_Plug-in, I have enabled all repos in synaptic - third party, etc., but i can not find these packages. any idea?
[02:18] <matt> ActionParsnip: Well, the command I ran from my nokia worked, but I had to enter my password.
[02:18] <FreeFull> swearengen: do you know how to open a terminal?
[02:19] <Sh3r1ff> swearengen: umount <mount>
[02:19] <Sumpygump> swearengen: use umount
[02:19] <Mike_lifeguard> OK, so in the end the problem is that I can find the device with 'lsusb' but not 'fdisk -l' -- so I don't know how to mount it, so I cannot use it. Is there a way to mount it with the information from lsusb?
[02:19] <swearengen> If I installed ubuntu twice, can I safely assume the latest partition is the one with GRUB
[02:19] <histo> Roasted: hodl up you migh tonly need winbind i'm checking
[02:19] <poseidon> How do I get variables in snippits?  ie if I have expander2#var, how can I get var
[02:20] <felix_da_catz> swearengen, You can never safely assume anything.
[02:20] <Roasted> histo - What is it about ubuntu that isnt allowing it to ping my main desktop, which is ubuntu? I'm on ubuntu on my laptop trying to ping my ubuntu desktop.
[02:20] <matt> ActionParsnip: For the sudoers file to take place, what needs to be done?
[02:20] <matt> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m5b4363e9
[02:20] <xiamx> Adobe flash plugin made firefox 3.0.8 crash.... solutions?
[02:20] <swearengen> if it's listed first in GRUB does that mean it has GRUB
[02:20] <felix_da_catz> no
[02:20] <histo> Roasted: yest by netbios name you need winbind installed on the linux boxes.  Then edit the file like I told you it will resolve by wins name then and all will be happy
[02:21] <histo> Roasted: I just did it on my machines
[02:21] <felix_da_catz> but it doesn't mean that drive can't boot
[02:21] <swearengen> whatever, im deleting the old one
[02:21] <swearengen> we'll see what happens =P
[02:21] <felix_da_catz> swearengen, well, it shouldn't be a big deal.  You can always boot off a recovery cd and fix it
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> matt: looks good dude
[02:21] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, after plugging in the drive; from the terminal type dmesg | tail and see if it reports the device there
[02:22] <matt> ActionParsnip: Then why isn't it working:(
[02:22] <matt> ActionParsnip: Should I reboot?
[02:22] <histo> Roasted: basically sudo aptitude install winbind   Then sudo nano /etc/nsswitch.conf and change the hosts: line make sure wins is in front of dns  Then it will work.
[02:22] <histo> Roasted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88206
[02:22] <swearengen> it says unmount, command not found
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> swearengen: umount
[02:23] <swearengen> it says unmount, command not found
[02:23] <swearengen> o
[02:23] <swearengen> sorry for repeat keyboard slip
[02:23] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: I'm not sure I understand the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148695/
[02:23] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: "new high speed USB device" sounds promising though
[02:23] <swearengen> why does gparted say it is mounted when its not gargh
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> matt: sure, once you log in again you will be in the group
[02:23] <Athenon__> ok, I just migrated everything over to ldap.  it works great....but when i go to remove the group from /etc/group using groupdel...it tells me i cant remove a user's primary group (even though i already deleted the user with userdel)....any ideas?
[02:24] <matt> ActionParsnip: Oh, but I never really log in, I just ssh into it.
[02:24] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, it's /dev/sdb1
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> matt: thats loggin in
[02:24] <mrwes> [42249.944455]  sdb: sdb1
[02:24] <matt> ActionParsnip: Well, shouldn't I be able to close my ssh connections and then go back in?
[02:24] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: ok, I'll try mounting that...
[02:24] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, did you mkdir a mount point for it already?
[02:25] <Mike_lifeguard> no
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> matt: i'm unsure about the sudoers file and if it needs a reboot
[02:25] <matt> ActionParsnip: I'll wait for the backup to finish, and then I'll try. I think it'll work, thanks!
[02:25] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, from a terminal type sudo mkdir /media/mydisk  or whatever you want to call it
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> np man
[02:26] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, then sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/mydisk
[02:26] <kpoman> hi all !
[02:26] <kpoman> guys do someone know how I can mount a reiser4 partition on 8.10 ?
[02:26] <kpoman> without much struggle I mean
[02:26] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: done & done
[02:26] <kaffien> whats the name of the linux kernel
[02:26] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, then finally sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mydisk
[02:27] <kaffien> if i want to patch via apt-get
[02:27] <m1ndpixel> Hi guys, for some reason, my headless machine keeps crashing after 1-2 days of uptime. I went through my logs, and found nothing, no warning, no errors, nothing. The machine does not respond to pings, and they keyboard 'num lock'  cap lock, dont affect the keyboard light... over night with memtest found nothing, any ideas?
[02:27] <sebsebseb> kaffien: in the terminal  do:  uname -r
[02:28] <kpoman> do someone know something about reiser4 ?
[02:28] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: "mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist"
[02:28] <Behappy> hello , How to join to freenode.com from ubunto?
[02:28] <Mike_lifeguard> Behappy: it is freenode.net, and you're on it
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> !mount | kpoman
[02:28] <sebsebseb> kpoman: yes and see my pm
[02:29] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, hrm...try /dev/sdb
[02:29] <may0> hi could anyone tell me why in ubuntu and any other linux distro i have tried my second monitor blinks on and off ? I have a nvidia 8800gt
[02:29] <fusa> m1ndpixel try testing ram with one ram stick inserted at a time, and test for several hours each stick, move sticks to over slots
[02:29] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: same
[02:29] <mrwes> sigh...
[02:29] <kpoman> I have an old reiser4 partition, I just need to mount it, backup the data then free it
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> may0: install nvidia drivers then use nvidia-settings to set up the display
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> may0: you will need nvidia-glx-180 for that card
[02:30] <may0> when i activate the restricted drivers or use envy to install the 180 drivers it causes x to crash
[02:30] <yoyoned> kpoman: it should automount
[02:30] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, try ...just guessing here; /dev/hcd
[02:30] <histo> !mount | dpo
[02:30] <histo> !mount > kpoman
[02:30] <kpoman> yoyoned: it wont, reiser4 ! not reiser3
[02:31] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: nope ^_^
[02:31] <mrwes> blah
[02:31] <tictac> hmm. is there a way to install ubuntu 8.10 in a failsafe video mode? the main mode doesnt work with my screen as it complains signal out of range
[02:31] <yoyoned> kpoman: so reiser4 insn't in stock ubuntu kernal I guess?
[02:31] <histo> may0: what type of video card do you have?
[02:31] <may0> 8800gt
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | tictac
[02:32] <kpoman> yoyoned: it isnt
[02:32] <histo> may0: does X give any errors when it crashes?
[02:32] <may0> yes but i can't recall the error.
[02:32] <may0> sorry :(
[02:32] <Roasted> I have two Ubuntu computers hooked together by a single patch cable. Each one is running Samba. I connected the Ubuntu laptop to the Ubuntu desktop by going to Places - Connect To Server. I'm transferring a lot of data. The data transfer is 23.2MB/second. They each have a 10/100/1000 port. Is this slow??
[02:32] <histo> may0: you can pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:33] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, you using 8.04
[02:33] <may0> brb
[02:33] <histo> may0: that card should not have any issue with activating the restrcited drivers
[02:33] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: no, 8.10
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: pretty standard
[02:33] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, this thread may apply http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-898939.html
[02:33] <Roasted> ActionParsnip - Shouldn't I be achieving higher speeds since they are gig ports?
[02:33] <histo> Roasted: sounds normal.  did you get the winbind thing working?
[02:34] <LargePrime> ok so how do i get my new gearhead webcam working
[02:34] <histo> !webcam | LargePrime
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: is the cable wired to be gb speed?
[02:34] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, appears it's a bug :(
[02:35] <histo> ActionParsnip: cat5e supports gigabit speeds
[02:35] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: Why did you not tell me threr was a supported cam list!!!!!!!
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: gb uses slightly different cabling
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: cos its offtopic here
[02:35] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes: ok, thanks
[02:35] <Circs> Is there a program similar to Fruity Loops for Ubuntu?
[02:35] <tictac> hmm nice. it even has a vga mode recommendation for my specific laptop. inspiron 1505.
[02:35] <josemanuel> hola a todo
[02:36] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: i hate you
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: join the queue
[02:36] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, looks like there is a work around, but it won't give you USB 2.0 "modprobe -r ehci_hcd"
[02:36] <histo> Circs: why not use fruity loops under wine?
[02:36]  * Mike_lifeguard tries...
[02:36] <matrixblue_> What program can I use to open or at least convert a publisher file?
[02:36] <histo> Circs: but i'm sure there are linux alternatives just google search linux alternative fruity loops.  you will prolly find something int he repos
[02:37] <Circs> histo: Because I don't own that software
[02:37] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, need sudo in front of that :)
[02:37] <histo> Circs: ahh applications > add/remove
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Circs: tried lmms?
[02:37] <Mike_lifeguard> matrixblue_: openoffice.org probably
[02:37] <Circs> ActionParsnip: No, I think I'll poke that
[02:37] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: your behavior hurts ubuntu
[02:37] <matrixblue_> Mike_lifeguard, I tried that
[02:37] <stuNNed> how can i find out what deb package owns a file?  something like `rpm -f /path/to/file` i think in red hat...
[02:38] <histo> stuNNed: apt-file
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: i doubt that very much considering im in here almost daily helping users
[02:38] <histo> LargePrime: ?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: i'm keeping the room on topic
[02:38] <godstar> Is anyone else able to install wine? I am getting a 'connection refused' when I attempt to do, sudo aptitude install wine via terminal.
[02:38] <godstar> ?
[02:38] <stuNNed> histo: thanks!
[02:38] <histo> godstar: no problems here
[02:38] <sebsebseb> godstar: don't get from terminal
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: try: sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full
[02:38] <sebsebseb> godstar: don't get from synaptic
[02:38] <drowner> matrixblue_: I don't think you can. Publisher files are not openable with anything except publisher. There is a convert to pdf online.
[02:38] <Circs> Last time i checked answering questions with something besides google it is being helpful
[02:39] <Mike_lifeguard> matrixblue_: if that didn't work, I have no other suggestions, sorry
[02:39] <sebsebseb> godstar: get from  wines own repo for ubuntu so you always get the most up to date
[02:39] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: sticking to a topic is not an excuse to hurt users
[02:39] <sebsebseb> godstar: http://www.winehq.org
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> godstar: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> Hmmmmmmmmm Pidgin isn't connecting to my accoutns
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: i didnt hurt you. you were in the wrong channel
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> accounts*
[02:39] <histo> LargePrime: ActionParsnip hasn't hurt anyone. You are misguided
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> Is anyone else having problems with pidgin?
[02:39] <drowner> matrixblue_: When someone emails me a pub file, i ask them to email it to me in a readbale format, like Postscript or pdf
[02:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> Or AIM/Yahoo! rather
[02:39] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: I experience crashes daily
[02:39] <Circs> H_M-Ubuntu: No issues here
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: i'm on it now
[02:39] <matrixblue_> drowner, and Mike_lifeguard : thanks I guess I'll install publisher under wine
[02:40] <godstar> Ty both.
[02:40] <kaffien> apt-get install ntfs-3g helped me out
[02:40] <kaffien> thanks for tips  ... later!
[02:40] <sebsebseb> LargePrime: do you want help with something?
[02:40] <histo> H_M-Ubuntu: they seem to have amplified with the facebook plugin activated
[02:40] <H_M-Ubuntu> Interesting.. I've never had a problem with pidgin before..
[02:40] <TNT> hi allbody speak portuguese??????????
[02:40] <behappy> Hello
[02:40] <sebsebseb> behappy: hi
[02:40] <H_M-Ubuntu> Meh works now, I had to restart it is all.. weird.
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !pt |  TNT
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> !pt | tnt
[02:41] <LargePrime> ActionParsnip: you hurt me.  i came to ask what i need to know about ubuntu and web cams.  Now i have a cam that is not supported
[02:41] <godstar> Just tried it via add/remove...connect (111 Connection refused).
[02:41] <histo> LargePrime: I pointed you to ubottu directions
[02:41] <godstar> Wine is still not installing. I have never really had this issue before. :(
[02:41] <kpoman> hi to all again ! sorry had to boot on ubuntu for the checks
[02:42] <histo> LargePrime: how did he make your cam that isn't suported appear?
[02:42] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, are you hurting people 'again' ?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: like i told you, its offtopic here
[02:42] <kpoman> sebsebseb: which was the channel ?
[02:42] <mrwes> heh
[02:42] <godstar> Sonofa!
[02:42] <sebsebseb> kpoman: see the pm
[02:42] <drowner> matrixblue_: I strongly recommend avoiding publisher files
[02:42] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: same here
[02:42] <godstar> Sorry...I feel better. Certainly not directly at anyone particular. :)
[02:43] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: no program  that isn't Microsoft's  can  suppourt publisher files
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: no, just people in the wrong room
[02:43] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: at all or properly
[02:43] <histo> sebsebseb: scribus maybe?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> histo: no not even Scribus
[02:43] <histo> sebsebseb: hrm.. let me check
[02:43] <drowner> histo: only if the person who made it exports it as a scribus-friendly file, i think
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> LargePrime: you asked a question in the wrong room. i told you where the right room was
[02:43] <matrixblue_> drowner and sebsebseb : I wish I could avoid it but that's not an option for alot of people
[02:43] <sebsebseb> histo: apparnatly the desktop  publishing formats are the hardest to reverse enginer, and that's why Scribus won't do it
[02:43] <drowner> matrixblue_: What do you use publisher for?
[02:44] <Wavesonics> what program should I use to read email from the command line?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: you can run Publisher under Wine
[02:44] <ChotaZ> OMFG!
[02:44] <kristian_> i can't find any ftp packet preinstalled on ubuntu, am i missing something, or do i have to find something in repo?
[02:44] <Matson> what provides mod_dav_svn for apache2?
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> Wavesonics: mutt or alpine are 2 solutions
[02:44] <mrwes> drowner, doens't Xnview view publisher files?
[02:44] <Matson>  libapache2-svn  got it
[02:44] <Wavesonics> ActionParsnip: I have sendmail, that is an incoming mail server as well right?
[02:45] <histo> sebsebseb: you could convert them to pdf wiht a website
[02:45] <godstar> I am thinking my wine install went nutty. Hmm...
[02:45] <drowner> mrwes: I don't know, does it? Sounds interesting
[02:45] <TheFuzzball> Circs: Adour might be what you're looking for
[02:45] <sebsebseb> histo: yeah I guess so
[02:45] <Wavesonics> ActionParsnip: And I could use Alpine to check the incoming mail?
[02:45] <histo> sebsebseb: k2pdf.com/convert.htm
[02:45] <matrixblue_> drowner, in my officer we use publisher sometime I have to review and edit stuff
[02:45] <drowner> mrwes: I prefer angry emails to people who send me .pub files. :D
[02:45] <histo> sebsebseb: or install publisher under wine maybe?
[02:45] <godstar> AFK
[02:45] <sebsebseb> histo: yes and I already suggested that
[02:46] <sebsebseb> drowner: Richard Stallman did a good article about why people shoudn't send .doc's to people  it's on  http://www.gnu.org in the philosphey section, and anyone else reading this, check that out to learn about free software and other issues to do with it
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Wavesonics: i guess, its not something ive used but i know mutt can be used to check mail in ssh
[02:47] <Wavesonics> ok, thanks
[02:47] <histo> godstar: sudo aptitude purge wine && sudo aptitude install wine
[02:47] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: see my message above to drowner
[02:47] <matrixblue_> sebsebseb, I use open office but the fact is .doc is the most common format. Just like how mp3s are the defacto standard
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> godstar: use the wine repos, the newer version gets better results in my experience
[02:48] <mrwes> drowner, here is an online converter to PDF http://convert.neevia.com/
[02:48] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: the most used, but they aren't real standards any of them
[02:48] <histo> mrwes: drowner k2pdf.com is antoehr one.  Or you can use word and convert them to pdf.
[02:48] <dt3k> .flac should be the audio standard
[02:49] <mrwes> histo, right...I saw that one too
[02:49] <LjL> !ot
[02:49] <histo> dt3k: I think .mp3 shoudlb e the standard all this legal stuff is garbagfe
[02:49] <sebsebseb> matrixblue_: Open Document Format is a real standard :) for office suites,  that was a ISO International Standards  Organisation standard, before  Microsoft came up with their competing OOXML rubbish.  OGG and Flac are nice open standard formats for audio and video.  etc
[02:49]  * histo goes back in his hole.
[02:49] <matrixblue_> dt3k, what percentage of computer users know what a .flak file is?
[02:49] <mrwes> histo: that's a deep hole :)
[02:49] <LjL> !ot
[02:49] <dt3k> matrixblue_; a lot more if it was the standard.
[02:50] <histo> lol
[02:50] <LjL> #ubuntu-offtopic is ready and willing to discuss document standards
[02:50] <mrwes> heh...slow bot
[02:50] <KillerOrca> I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[02:50] <sebsebseb> mrwes: slow bot?
[02:50] <LjL> mrwes: no, it's just i used it too quickly in succession on the same factoid.
[02:50] <LjL> guess that must be because my first call on it was ignored.
[02:50] <histo> mrwes: sebsebseb just wait till it floodbots and bans itself thats the best.
[02:50] <matrixblue_> I would use the open standards but when it's time for collaboration with windows users it causes problems
[02:51] <ugliefrog> irssi
[02:51] <matrixblue_> best to wait til we win the war for that
[02:51] <dt3k> mp3 was created in 1991 and we are still using that as the audio standard when there are far superior formats.
[02:51] <LjL> !ot | LAST NOTICE
[02:51] <RedMushroom> how can i alter the permissions of the folder /var/www (and all of it's contents) to allow a local user full read/write/execute permissions?
[02:51] <LjL> RedMushroom: how do you define "local user"?
[02:52] <RedMushroom> another user on the computer, ie, i have two users, root and "user" and i want user to have those permissions for that folder
[02:52] <LjL> RedMushroom: why can't you just make that user a member of the www-data (or www or what's it called right now) group?
[02:52] <RedMushroom> because i don't know how
[02:52] <tictac> usermod -G www-data <user>
[02:53] <M4rotku>  hey, i have a quick question:  when ubuntu 8.10 is installed to a usb drive, can applications be installed on it or is it akin to the live cd?
[02:53] <Neff> Hi everybody! I'm a Journalist and I'm trying to take screenshots of Jaunty for an article I will publish on a swiss news paper the day of jaunty release. I have a problem with my Jaunty installation in VirtualBox 2.2. I installed Jaunty and I installed the guest additions too but now I'm missing the mouse cursor and I don't know what to do. Can you help me please?
[02:53] <dt3k> I believe you can install apps
[02:53] <RedMushroom> tictac: does that have to be run in sudo?
[02:53] <histo> RedMushroom: add your user to the group that owns www
[02:53] <tictac> readability: yes.
[02:53] <nonewmsgs> i mounted an iso to a local folder (/media/fakeCD) now i want to change what cd is mounted but i can't because it's already mounted more than once.  umount gives me the same error
[02:53] <RedMushroom> histo: root owns www
[02:54] <histo> RedMushroom: yes but who is the group
[02:54] <tictac> nonewmsgs: so umount the cd.
[02:54] <histo> RedMushroom: I believe there is a www or www-data group
[02:54] <LjL> histo: root.
[02:54] <LjL> histo: there is, but by default, at least on Hardy, /var/www is owned by root.
[02:54] <RedMushroom> i'm using intrepid ibex (8.10)
[02:54] <histo> LjL: thats so annoying to new users something that needs to be addressed.
[02:54] <Shish_> scunizi: hey, just wanted to tell u that the cube thing resolved itself with a RESTART... bruuutal
[02:55] <histo> LjL: there should be a www group or www-data group by default no?
[02:55] <nonewmsgs> tictac it wont let me!  umount: it seems /media/fakeCD is mounted multiple times
[02:55] <matrixblue_> Neff, what happens when you click within the window of virtualbox?
[02:55] <histo> LjL: that atleast the admin group has access to without pass
[02:55] <LjL> histo: there *is* a www-data group.
[02:55] <unop> RedMushroom, why don't you use the userdir apache module .. so you can place content in ~/public_html and access it at http://host/~yourusername/
[02:55] <tictac> nonewmsgs: sudo umount /media/fakeCD
[02:55] <LjL> histo: it's just not the owner of /var/www
[02:56] <histo> Neff: right ctrl
[02:56] <Neff> matrixblue_: happens that the arrow cursor disappears
[02:56] <tictac> nonewmsgs: do it multiple times if you need to. also, make sure nothing is using it.
[02:56] <RedMushroom> unop: that's what i was thinking
[02:56] <nonewmsgs> tictac, i just gave you the error message that produces
[02:56] <Radtoo> Neff: I dimly recall virtualbox offered a setting whether to use software or hardware cursor...
[02:56] <matrixblue_> Neff, what is the host operating system?
[02:56] <unop> RedMushroom, with this way - you don't have to mess with permissions .. just create a directory in your home directory, place content in there
[02:56] <tictac> nonewmsgs: whats the error?
[02:56] <histo> Radtoo: Neff i've never had a problem with virtual box and mouse control wiht guest additions. But then i've run virutal box on ubuntu host
[02:56] <Neff> histo Radtoo matrixblue_ I'm using ubuntu Intrepid ;)
[02:57] <RedMushroom> unop: that's what i'm doing now
[02:57] <histo> Neff: right ctrl I belivee is the default escape key. it says down in the bottom right of the virtual box window.
[02:57] <unop> RedMushroom, I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem then :)
[02:58] <nonewmsgs> tictac ok now it's working cheers
[02:58] <histo> Neff: if not opne a terminal hitting alt+f2 in the virtual machine and sudo shutdown -h now.  Then see ifyou get mouse back. If not then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the hosts X
[02:58] <tictac> nonewmsgs: np
[02:59] <Neff> histo that is not my problem.. I know how to use VBox but my problem is that I'm not able to see the cursor when VBox grab my mouse... The cursor disappears but the mouse is still working.
[02:59] <matrixblue_> Neff :and the mouse cursor reappear when you press the host key?
[02:59] <Neff> matrixblue_: yes
[02:59] <histo> Neff: hrm... no idea then
[02:59] <Neff> matrixblue_: it desappears in the VM only
[02:59] <Radtoo> histo: It can happen... there was a bug in an older version of VBox (version 1.5 or something), plus it happened to me on ati drivers at one point.
[02:59] <Neff> matrixblue_: and only with jaunty...
[03:00] <kickar> hey guys i just installed ubuntu ? i am new do i have iptables?
[03:00] <matrixblue_> Neff: just create another VM using the same virtual hard drive
[03:00] <Radtoo> Neff: As this happened after you installed the guest additions I do think it happened because it switched from software to hardware mouse cursor...
[03:00] <lstarnes> kickar: yes
[03:01] <lstarnes> kickar: almost all linux distributions have it vy default
[03:01] <lstarnes> *by
[03:01] <Neff> Radtoo: I have this problem since I installed my guest additions. Before the cursor was visible (but of course screen resolution was bad)
[03:01] <kickar> lstarnes,  is there easyway to configure it ? any GUI scripts?
[03:01] <kickar> kmyfirewall?
[03:01] <histo> !firewall | kickar
[03:02] <lstarnes> kickar: there is ufw and I there GUI frontends like firestarter
[03:02] <Radtoo> Neff: Just turn it back to software cursor. If you have that setting and I'm not wrong (using too many virtualization solutions and too infrequently to be sure)
[03:02] <kickar> lstarnes,  thank you !
[03:02] <matrixblue_> Neff, just create another VM using the same virtual hard drive
[03:02] <Neff> Radtoo: What does it mean? How can I switch to software cursor?
[03:03] <matrixblue_> Neff, that should reset all the setting you changed but the install itself will be the same
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <Neff> matrixblue_: I don't think this will solve the problem because Guest additions are installed in the virtual hard drive
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby!
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby yuo can do it!!!
[03:03] <FloodBot2> Tony-Little: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <Tony-Little> Yeah baby!
[03:04] <Neff> matrixblue_: the only thing I changed was not in the VM, but in the virtual disk, where I only installed VBox Guest additions
[03:04] <Neff> matrixblue_: the only thing I can do maybe is to install another version of VBox and see what happens
[03:05] <matrixblue_> Neff, if the keyboard still works use terminal to remove the guest additions then
[03:05] <Jared> hey guys
[03:05] <Jared> quick question
[03:05] <leo_> huh
[03:05] <Jared> I'm on ubuntu 9.04 alpha and im trying to do an upgrade, some of the packages aren't locking so by doing system update does it go into beta or do i need to redownload an .iso?
[03:05] <mlalkaka> hello everyone
[03:05] <Wavesonics> waht does /etc stand for?
[03:05] <Wavesonics> wahts it mean?
[03:06] <eseven73> !jaunty | Jared
[03:06] <Neff> matrixblue_: That will not solve my problem. I need to have full screen res. to make screenshots for the press.... so I need the guest additions installed. I was hoping to find a solution to the missing pointer... if there is
[03:06] <mlalkaka> Wavesonics: it stands for "et cetera"
[03:06] <nonewmsgs> tictac, now im trying to mount another image and it's whining! mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:06] <Wavesonics> ah...
[03:06] <Wavesonics> thx
[03:06] <Jared> ah ok
[03:06] <lstarnes> Wavesonics: also, man hier
[03:06] <Wavesonics> lol
[03:06] <Neff> matrixblue_: In an old version of VBox I had the same problem
[03:06] <wizared> why are my application menus dissappearing
[03:06] <matrixblue_> Neff, do a screenshot from within the VM
[03:07] <mlalkaka> Wavesonics: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGURATION
[03:07] <Neff> matrixblue_: you don't get the problem... i have to move windows, try programs and without a mouse cursor I cannot do it...
[03:07] <Wavesonics> thx :)
[03:08] <Radtoo> Neff: Ah, sorry - found a forum entry from last year where a sun staffer said you can't disable the hardware cursor except by disabling the guest additions... :/
[03:08] <Wavesonics> makes ya wounder what its not called /config
[03:08] <xray7224> Radtoo, you in here ?
[03:08] <histo> Radtoo: Neff why not use a more current version of virtualbox?
[03:08] <nonewmsgs> im trying to mount an iso  using the -o loop thing and mount is saying mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:08] <thebackwash> wizered: can you be more specific?
[03:08] <histo> nonewmsgs: what fiel system is it?
[03:08] <Wavesonics> my sendmail is working very intermitently :/
[03:08] <Neff> histo more current? there is something newer than 2.2?
[03:08] <genii> nonewmsgs: use also -t iso9660
[03:08] <matrixblue_> Neff, I understand. When you disable guest additions you'll have your mouse and when you do the screenshot from in the VM then you'll have a full resolution shot
[03:08] <histo> Neff: Ahh I thought you were experiencing a bug from prior to 1.5
[03:09] <wizared> on some of my programs where it says file edit ect... is just lines
[03:09] <nonewmsgs> genii, histo but i never had to before?
[03:09] <genii> nonewmsgs: If it's an -rw or so,  -t udf
[03:09] <thebackwash> wizered: are you using kde or gnome?
[03:09] <Neff> histo that is exactly the same problem but with a current version of vbox
[03:09] <wizared> thebackwash: gnome
[03:10] <Wavesonics> sendmail ftl :(
[03:10] <nonewmsgs> oh ok it's a bad image guys
[03:10] <histo> Neff: #virtualbox may be able to provide more advice
[03:10] <Matson> what provides Apache2.pm ?
[03:10] <thebackwash> wizared: that's a really strange problem.  i have no idea what it might be in gnome.  sorry.
[03:10] <histo> Matson: use apt-file
[03:10] <lstarnes> Matson: libaoache2-mod-perl I think
[03:10] <Neff> histo ok, I'll try there
[03:10] <Radtoo> Neff: Q: Did you have ati drivers?
[03:10] <Matson> when  I start up apache now it fails with:  "Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC
[03:11] <mopoyo> anyone know an ubuntu game with GOOD (actually good) graphics?
[03:11] <Neff> Radtoo: my host has an NVIDIA video card
[03:11] <Radtoo> mopoyo: spring rts, nexuiz
[03:11] <wizared> thebackwash: it started with open office and seams to be spreading
[03:11] <xray7224> mopoyo, nexuiz
[03:11] <matrixblue_> mopoyo, I like supertuxkart
[03:12] <Sumpygump> mopoyo: torcs
[03:12] <histo> mopoyo: nexuiz urban-terror enemy territory quake / unreal etc...
[03:12] <histo> mopoyo: there are tons
[03:12] <histo> mopoyo: steam works with wine as well as WoW
[03:12] <Radtoo> mopoyo: Spring RTS is best in graphics going by my taste, tho =)
[03:12] <Matson> histo: how to use apt-file?
[03:12] <histo> Matson: dunno dont' ahve it installed I would guess apt-file search filename .
[03:13] <thebackwash> wizared: hit alt-f when you have an application open
[03:13] <histo> Matson: ubt man apt-file would say for sure
[03:13] <thebackwash> wizared: see if that does anything
[03:13] <histo> Matson: ubt = but
[03:13] <matrixblue_> anyone know why I can't set my name to matrixblue? I registered that name a while back
[03:13] <f0ster> does anyone know how to commit to svn even when svn says you're file is 'probably' out of date?
[03:13] <mopoyo> wow Spring RTS looks great
[03:13] <histo> matrixblue_: its ghosted maybe?
[03:13] <cchaos> Hello
[03:13] <Sumpygump> f0ster: svn update
[03:13] <matrixblue_> histo, what's ghosted?
[03:13] <histo> matrixblue_: are you d'angelo?
[03:14] <cina1977> hi all
[03:14] <chirpsalot> hi
[03:14] <matrixblue_> histo yeah
[03:14] <wizared> thebackwash: my tabs open but cant read anything. wear words should be there are lines
[03:14] <histo> matrixblue_: well /nick matrickblue then /msg nickserve identify <password>
[03:14] <thebackwash> wizared: also, if you've tried installing a mac-style menubar, and anything goes wrong, you might run into problems
[03:14] <histo> matrixblue_: /msg nickserv not nickserve
[03:15] <Radtoo> mopoyo: Absolutely. Just make sure you do have hardware opengl acceleration or it won't run.
[03:15] <wizared> thebackwash: wasnt playing with anything like that . it started right after an update\
[03:15] <matrixblue_> histo and if I forgot the password?
[03:16] <shippo> I keep trying to install xubuntu on an older system but it keeps dumping me at the ubuntu prompt and not starting the install, any idea as to why?
[03:16] <mpm711> would it be possible to update php to 5.2.9 on hardy
[03:16] <matrixblue_> shippo, at what point does it sump you?
[03:16] <thebackwash> wizared: i did a google search and it appears that this is an occasional bug
[03:17] <j5098> i can't ping my ubuntu hostname from a diff computer, any ideas?
[03:17] <wizared> thebackwash: is there a fix
[03:17] <shippo> matrixblue_: loading /casper/initrd.gz
[03:17] <thebackwash> wizared: looking now
[03:17] <Paulo> ola
[03:17] <shippo> then says something about bios age and stops
[03:17] <thebackwash> wizared: i googled "gtk menubar disappears ubuntu"
[03:18] <supercom32> Anyone here know c++ well? :-)
[03:18] <matrixblue_> shippo, check the CD for defects
[03:18] <mopoyo> Radtoo, how big is spring?
[03:18] <shippo> matrixblue_: I just used it to install xubuntu on two other systems with out issue
[03:18] <shippo> perhaps a cd drive issue?
[03:19] <thebackwash> wizared: sorry i can't help you off hand here.  maybe the ubuntu forums would help
[03:19] <matrixblue_> shippo, perhaps....is the computer able to boot for usb?
[03:19] <wizared> thebackwash: thank you
[03:20] <shippo> matrixblue_: do you mean boot TO usb?
[03:20] <matrixblue_> shippo, I mean from a usb flash device
[03:20] <Radtoo> mopoyo: Can't really say. The base installation is around 20MB for the engine and lobby, but there are dependencies and you'll also get variable space consumption by the unit sets (mods / games) and maps...
[03:21] <shippo> matrixblue_: probably not, it is an old mb from like 1996 or so
[03:21] <mopoyo> Radtoo, is there a standard mod?
[03:22] <matrixblue_> shippo, try another CD rom is available, What are the specs on the system btw?
[03:22] <Matson> so this is nightmarish
[03:22] <Matson> so Apache.pm is already installed
[03:22] <Radtoo> mopoyo: No. Just some that are played more online than others...
[03:22] <Matson> but the place it is installed is not in @INC
[03:22] <noodlesgc> supercom32: perhaps you should join ##c++?
[03:22] <mopoyo> Radtoo, which is the best one :p
[03:22] <Matson> so when apache starts up, it can't find it
[03:22] <Matson> error:
[03:23] <Matson> [Fri Apr 10 19:21:01 2009] [error] Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . /etc/apache2) at (eval 2) line 3.\n
[03:23] <bosco> i dual boot windows and ubuntu is it possible to have a blank partition for files  that is accessable by both windows and ubuntu ???
[03:23] <Matson> but the file is right here
[03:23] <Matson> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1723 2006-11-19 15:31 /usr/lib/perl5/Bundle/Apache2.pm
[03:23] <Im_Toast> Hey, my sound stopped working... Anyone have any ideas how to diagnose/fix it?
[03:23] <Radtoo> mopoyo: None, they're just different. If you want something fairly "normal" RTS style, try BA or CA. A bit less normal would be NOTA / GundamRTS.
[03:23] <cchaos> bosco: that partition must be NTFS for windows to use it
[03:23] <noodlesgc> bosco as long as it is either NTFS or FAT32
[03:24] <eseven73> Im_Toast, try sudo alsa force-reload
[03:24] <cchaos> Or FAT or FAT32 as noodlesgc stated (I forgot about that, but NTFS is the "norm" for windows atm)
[03:25] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am trying a different cd drive
[03:25] <matrixblue_> shippo, ok
[03:25] <shippo> that is on a different interface
[03:25] <shippo> well see if that works or not
[03:25] <Radtoo> mopoyo: They're all fun to try out tho. They will end up as a single file in your home directory under .spring/ if you choose to download them using the game lobby, so you can just delete them if you don't like one.
[03:26] <bosco> cchaos, i already installed both ubuntu and windows ????
[03:26] <Im_Toast> eseven73: Still sound-less
[03:26] <Ketrel> I'm trying to configure Wireless on Ubuntu (Ibex) I THINK I may have gotten somewhere with ndiswrapper, but when I try to choose the encyption I do not see 64bit WEP listed as an option
[03:26] <eseven73> Im_Toast, ok try setting everything in System > preferences> sound to ALSA then re run that command
[03:27] <captain> does anyone have a good how to on taking an AVI and making into a playable DVD, not just burning it?
[03:27] <kpoman> hey guys ! I just installed the kernel sources and still dont have nothing in /usr/src/linux !
[03:27] <cchaos> bosco: have you left any space on your hard drive(s) for you to "is it possible to have a blank partition for files  that is accessable by both windows and ubuntu ???"
[03:28] <Im_Toast> eseven: "ALSA" or "Intel ICH6 (ALSA)"
[03:28] <eseven73> alsa
[03:28] <ChotaZ> Why wouldnt I be able to type in a name on a game, but being able to use the keyboard for everything else?
[03:28] <bosco> cchaos, found gparted doing what i need it to do
[03:29] <shippo> matrixblue_: that was a no go, so you thing it is a bad disk then?
[03:29] <mlalkaka> what's the difference between "good" and "extra" visual effects? does it make a difference which one i choose if i am going to change the visual effects using compizconfig settings manager?
[03:29] <cchaos> bosco: if you want to use it for windows make sure it is either FAT, FAT32 or NTFS (NTFS recommended)
[03:29] <Im_Toast> eseven73: Nope
[03:29] <eseven73> !sound | Im_Toast (ok try these then...)
[03:30] <matrixblue_> shippo, I would still use the built in CD checker. Other options are the alternate text based installer
[03:30] <bosco> cchaos, right got that part that was the easy part
[03:30] <bosco> lol
[03:30] <matrixblue_> shippo, how much RAM does the system have?
[03:30] <shippo> matrixblue_: i've tried the alt installer and am not good with it, have yet to do that successfully
[03:30] <shippo> matrixblue_: 256 right now
[03:31] <cchaos> bosco: if you got that part, thats it lol
[03:31] <shippo> can bump to 512
[03:31] <ChotaZ> Why wouldnt I be able to type in a name on a game, but being able to use the keyboard for everything else?
[03:31] <matrixblue_> shippo, are you going directly into the install or are you starting the LiveCD environment?
[03:32] <shippo> matrixblue_: not sure which is which
[03:32] <tictac> is there an 'ubuntu way' of changing my video driver from vesa to nv?
[03:32] <matrixblue_> shippo, one option is "Try Xubuntu with affecting my computer" and the other is "Install Xubuntu"
[03:33] <tictac> i can always change xorg.conf, but didnt know if there was an ubuntu specific way of doing it.
[03:33] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am doing Install Xubuntu
[03:33] <cchaos> tictac: whats the graphics card you have?
[03:33] <tictac> nvidia 7300 go.
[03:33] <tictac> im trying to get 1680x1050 resolution. i had to use vga=840 during install to get a 1400x1050 resolution that my monitor supported.
[03:33] <matrixblue_> shippo, try the Try without affecting option....also whcih version of Xubuntu are you using?
[03:34] <shippo> matrixblue_: on the two previous systems though the install started with out my interaction and now it initially boots to a flashing prompt at boot:
[03:34] <tictac> now its set to vesa and 1280x1024.
[03:34] <tictac> ideas?
[03:34] <shippo> 8.10
[03:34] <dkkong> I've had to swap to the vesa driver to get my X to work because of a bug with my specific chipset. It won't let me select a higher refresh rate than 0hz now. Can I change this?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> tictac: sudo apt-get --reinstal install nvidia-glx-180; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> tictac: restart x server and run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[03:34] <rpk2012> hello
[03:34] <erhan> hi, what could be causing ubuntu not to recognise my monitor's model?
[03:35] <tictac> is that the nvidia or nv driver?
[03:35]  * tictac wants to use nv specifically.
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> tictac: nvidia
[03:35] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am testing the cd now
[03:35] <cchaos> nv drivers are old
[03:35] <mikejet> My ieee1394 FireWire ports don't show up in a "lspci -v" output. I did a modload raw1394, with no errors. What now?
[03:35] <eseven73> nv doesnt support 3d either, or was that changed?
[03:35] <tictac> i dont care if they are old. :P
[03:36] <tictac> nope. no 3d support needed.
[03:36] <matrixblue_> shippo, lemme know how that goes
[03:36] <rpk2012> I know people are probably all asking questions but I am seriously stuck.  Durring install and initialization, my pc froze.  When I rebooted, it said hd failure, and when I hit f1 to continue, no matter what, I can never see anything on my monitor, not even the bios info
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> tictac: i think the driver is needed to get the res you want
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> rpk2012: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded as well as verify the cd once you initially booted to it
[03:37] <tictac> ActionParsnip: ive used nv to get 1680x1050 on debian before xorg decided to do this automagick crap and borked the system.
[03:37] <cchaos> rpk2012: any bleeps?
[03:37] <rpk2012> Yes
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> rpk2012: did you burn as slowly as you were allowed
[03:37] <rpk2012> no bleeps
[03:37] <rpk2012> Yes
[03:37] <cchaos> rpk2012: can you enter BIOS?
[03:37] <matrixblue_> rpk2012, disconnect the HD and try to get to BIOS
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> tictac: if you are comfortable, you can manually populate xorg.conf and it will ovberride the auto settings
[03:38] <Ketrel> Wow, sersiously 64bit wep is LEFT OUT!?!?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: its not. I use it here
[03:39] <shippo> matrixblue_: no errors found
[03:39] <Im_Toast> eseven73: I have a question about the Sound Troubleshooting url you linked me to. Near the end it says I need to find something in 'lspci -v | less' called "Audio Device" but the only thing I have is "Multimedia audio controller" So... could this be my problem? Or do you think mine counts? lol
[03:39] <matrixblue_> shippo, It seems that the problem is occurring when it isn trying to extract to a ramdisk
[03:39] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip: it is not listed in the drop down, and I found a forum post complaining about it's removal
[03:39] <onionpie> hello all, how do I check what type of harddrive (IDE/PATA, or SATA) I have in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <LiveSwearengen> so i went and corrupted GRUB.. how is this super grub disk thing
[03:39] <Mercidia> hi there, has anyone ever played around with uinput driver? I nees help :S
[03:39] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip: also a repo to add to update the network manager to get it back
[03:39] <matrixblue_> shippo, add the additional RAM and try again
[03:40] <Mercidia> need*
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: i use the interfaces file for config personally
[03:40] <scunizi> LiveSwearengen: easier to just attempt to reinstall grub
[03:40] <pl4sMa> hi guys, can help... my built-in bluetooth is not detected, nothing shows up on 'hcitool dev'
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: you could try wifi-radar
[03:40] <scunizi> !grub | LiveSwearengen
[03:40] <eseven73> Im_Toast, not sure but keep asking, or maybe check the forums http://ubuntuforums.org :D
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> no i deleted a partition
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> well, it's still there
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> lol
[03:40] <LiveSwearengen> i formatted a partition
[03:40] <onionpie> hello all, how do I check what type of harddrive (IDE/PATA, or SATA) I have in Ubuntu?
[03:41] <scunizi> LiveSwearengen: doesn't matter you can still reinstall grub
[03:41] <leo_> ?
[03:41] <matrixblue_> onionpie, open the PC and check
[03:41] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip: after I (hopefully) get this connected, I'm going to install Wicd
[03:41] <h8red> hi
[03:41] <onionpie> can I do it from the command line?
[03:41] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am trying the "try xubuntu with out installing" option real quick to see if it does anything
[03:41] <sebsebseb> h8red: hi
[03:41] <h8red> heya sebsebseb
[03:41] <h8red> im new to linux
[03:41] <Ketrel> Until then I gotta run half way across the house to where there's an ethernet jack
[03:41] <cchaos> onionpie: its a physical thing, so get the screwdrivers out
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> onionpie: sudo lshw > ~/hw.txt; gedit ~/hw.txt &
[03:42] <matrixblue_> shippo, if that does work then there is an install link on the desktop
[03:42] <scunizi> onionpie: easier to look in the box.. small typically red cable=sata  wide flat ribbon=ide/pata
[03:42] <h8red> this ubuntu is really cool
[03:42] <sebsebseb> h8red: did we talk before?
[03:42] <scunizi> h8red: welcome to the adventure
[03:42] <sebsebseb> onionpie: see my pm
[03:42] <h8red> i've never logged onto this server before
[03:43] <LiveSwearengen> i get error 15 not found with both
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: all drives have ide ;)
[03:43] <sebsebseb> h8red: oh nevermind I hi'ed you
[03:43] <h8red> oh was it an auto-hi
[03:43] <h8red> sorry
[03:43] <h8red> heh
[03:43] <sebsebseb> h8red: no not auto hi
[03:43] <wizared> i have a 2175 hp all in one. how do i get it to scan on ubuntu
[03:43] <sebsebseb> h8red: your running the server version?
[03:43] <cchaos> wizared: xsane
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> !scan | wizared