[00:00] <wachpwnski> so @reboot $HOME/.cron_script
[00:00] <L3top> StZ: You have an optimus chipset. The only way that you have a chance of that working well at all is using bumblebee-nvidia... and I have no idea the status of bumblebee in quantal.
[00:00] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: do this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:00] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,it's mostly quantal though
[00:01] <L3top> StZ: optimus is completely unsupported in linux from nVidia.
[00:01] <motaka2> is there a way to install umbrello on windows ?
[00:01] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,says dpkg status is locked by another process i think it's the update manager thing you had me do earlier
[00:01] <blackshirt> optimus prime
[00:02] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: I didn't ask you to do that, but that's ok.   Let it finish
[00:02] <mdmkolbe> My USB keyboard has stopped responding.  Is there a way to get it back up without just rebooting the machine?  (This keeps happening and I'd like to get it fixed permanently.)  (I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.)
[00:02] <StZ> That name, bumblebee, rings a bell, L3top. It ran perfectly fine in .04, but doesn't seem to work in .10. I'll try reinstalling that. Thx
[00:02] <guea119> progress sort of. booted an older kernel and now things work
[00:03] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: unplug and replugging helps?
[00:03] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,well, you asked me to "did you use do-release-upgrade or update-manager to upgrade" so i went ahead and tried it, anyways it was taking a long time to install, i'm thinking it'll take a long time for it to check for updates
[00:03] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: unplug and replug does not help
[00:03] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:04] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: what does the syslog say is happening
[00:04] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: how do I find out what the syslog says?  (I'm ssh'ed in from another machine)
[00:04] <h6w> I'm trying to upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04 using the downloaded AMD64 iso.  However, when I do apt-cdrom add it says "Skipping nonexistent file ...../binary-amd-64/Packages."  The installer then says is needs to download 1.1GB.  How do I get the AMD64 iso upgrade like the old alternate cd?
[00:05] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: when that's done, you'll want to run that dpkg command
[00:05] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,alright will do
[00:05] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: with or without x? you could 'tail /var/log/syslog' in terminal
[00:06] <devslash> I upgraded to ubuntu server 12.10 and after installing when i boot it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[00:06] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: you might also consider the issue is hardware related, try another usb keyboard/mouse to check
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> h6w: if you mount the ISO there should be an upgrade script in the root of the cd
[00:07] <devslash> can anyone help me out
[00:08]  * guea119 worked out what happened
[00:09] <SkippersBoss> anyone else having troubles with ubuntu centres software sources additiobnal hardware
[00:09] <SkippersBoss> ?
[00:09] <h6w> ActionParsnip: Yes, the alternate CD had it in 12.04, but the desktop cd doesn't in 12.10.
[00:09] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: Mouse works fine.  I don't have a spare keyboard on hand.  The syslog shows errors about USB and hub (http://pastebin.com/DGG9qyFn).
[00:09] <Dark> Dark Sun
[00:10] <Dark> hi all
[00:10] <forty9foot> morning ActionParsnip :)
[00:10] <xodiak> hi all.
[00:10] <Dark> how r u?
[00:10] <guea119> I was running a newer kernel with 12.04 <IP_ADDRESS>5 which did not work after upgrading
[00:10] <wachpwnski> my crontab isn't working. No blank line at the end will cause it not to work?
[00:10] <Guest65797> how r u guys?
[00:10] <devslash> ubuntu 12.10 update borked my server
[00:10] <Guest65797> pls tell me
[00:11] <Nordom> Hey I want to send some one a file, is there an easy way to do file hosting on ubuntu?
[00:11] <forty9foot> I got your note on my question, ActionParsnip - i don't know if you have seen my response, but it's an AR5523 Atheros chip in a Siemens Gigaset USB 108  (129B:160C)
[00:11] <jrib> wachpwnski: well did adding a blank line cause it to work?
[00:11] <wachpwnski> nope :/
[00:11] <xodiak> needing terminal command to update from 12.10 beta2 to 12.10 current... please
[00:12] <jrib> !final | xodiak
[00:12] <wachpwnski> should I run crontab -e with sudo?
[00:12] <jrib> wachpwnski: only if you want to edit root's crontab
[00:12] <xodiak> Thanks bot!
[00:12] <devslash> i need help . ubuntu server doesn't boot anymore after updating from 12.04 to 12.10
[00:12] <ais523> Nordom: well you could start up a webserver relatively easily, but that could have problems of its own; if the other person is also running Linux, I normally send the file with netcat, but both people have to know how to use it
[00:12] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: way out of my meager brain cells ability
[00:12] <Nordom> ais523: they are running windows
[00:13] <ais523> Nordom: that combination is always a pain; you can set up a webserver of FTP server, but configuring them is hard and you have problems with your firewall and your router's firewall
[00:13] <StZ> L3top, reinstalling bumblebee, and the nvidia-current drivers fixed it. I have my launcher back. Thx!
[00:13] <Nordom> ais523: so the easiest way is to just send it via email?
[00:14] <xodiak> getting a lot of "404 not found" when doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:14] <ais523> Nordom: if it's not really large, yes, unfortunately; it's a pity that Windows users don't have decent communication-over-network programs by default
[00:14] <Draton> Anyone having evolution-calendar-factory crash on startup after 12.10 update?
[00:14] <forty9foot> also if anyone here is on 12.10 yet, what is up with the huge font in the tty's?  It's enormous.
[00:14] <climbzilla> Still suffering from the network issue from last night.  I'm pretty sure I disabled ipv6, but the intermittent outages are still happening.  any ideas/advice?
[00:14] <forty9foot> i know my sight's bad, but come on :P
[00:14] <jrib> xodiak: I give you the same advice I gave you 6 hours ago: use a local mirror
[00:15] <Nordom> ais523:  it is a pitty, but I am sure in 20 years when microsoft gets around to it they will charge u for the feature =/
[00:15] <xodiak> lol :) sry jrib. I don't know how to use local mirror.
[00:15] <devslash> i need help . ubuntu server doesn't boot anymore after updating from 12.04 to 12.10. can anyone help me out ?
[00:15] <jrib> xodiak: in software sources, you can change your repository server to a local one
[00:15] <xodiak> jrib: affirmative
[00:17] <xodiak> jrib: when you say local mirror. you mean choose a download server I think it closest to me?
[00:17] <jrib> xodiak: yes
[00:18] <devslash> can someone help me out
[00:18] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: I fixed the keyboard issue.  Plugging the keyboard into a different port worked.  Thanks for the help.  (Your suggestion about a hardware issue incirectly prompted me to check it.)
[00:19] <devslash> I upgraded to ubuntu server 12.10 and after installing when i boot it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[00:19] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: cool
[00:21] <Allavaz> Hi all
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> devslash: what happens when you boot?
[00:21] <devslash> ActionParsnip: it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[00:21] <devslash> wtf does that mean ?
[00:22] <WeThePeople> devslash, >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12159
[00:23] <devslash> but i can't boot
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> devslash: some keyboard key isn't recognised. Have you tried the boot option: nomodeset
[00:23] <devslash> no
[00:24] <Braber01> what command shows me my partions and how big they are?
[00:24] <jrib> Braber01: df -h
[00:24] <devslash> ActionParsnip: do edit the command line and add nomodeset to the line beginning with linux ?
[00:26] <alexfpms> Braber01, df -h
[00:26] <alexfpms> jrib, sorry
[00:26] <jrib> alexfpms: no need for sorry
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> devslash: its anm option in grub, before the OS starts to boot
[00:27] <alexfpms> jrib, problems with my connection
[00:27] <devslash> ActionParsnip: Its still hanging
[00:27] <devslash> and I'm not even touching the keyboard
[00:27] <vlad___> is there a way to disable all network stack on a network interface, so it is 100% in promiscous mode?
[00:27] <xodiak> jrib: asking you bc you helped before. I've chosen multiple servers and am getting "404 not found" on not all but a few of the packages.
[00:28] <jrib> xodiak: have you run « sudo apt-get update »
[00:28] <devslash> ActionParsnip: what else can i try ?
[00:28] <xodiak> yessir
[00:28] <jrib> xodiak: pastebin your errors (and the command you ran to get them).  Include a « sudo apt-get update » ifrst
[00:30] <forty9foot> ActionParsnip: i'm gonna be on for about another 30 minutes or so, if you have time to reply on 211619, otherwise I'll catch it tomorrow :)
[00:32] <h6w> The cdromupgrade script is missing from the 12.10 isos.  How do I do a cdrom upgrade?
[00:32] <h6w> I found this but grub is not detecting the added line to 40_custom: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202694/upgrade-from-12-04-to-12-10-using-the-desktop-image
[00:34] <devslash> ActionParsnip: any other suggestions
[00:34] <vlad___> how do i disable network stack in linux?
[00:35] <jkeben> Does anyone have Ubuntu on an HP touchsmart?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> devslash: is the ram healthy?
[00:35] <xodiak> jrib: do I just paste the "pastebin' embed code?
[00:35] <devslash> yes
[00:35] <Flynsarmy> does 12.10 have nvidia optimus support out of the box? or we still relying on bumblebee?
[00:35] <jrib> xodiak: just the url
[00:35] <devslash> ActionParsnip: everything was working fine until i reboot after upgrading to ubuntu server 12.10
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: it'll be bumblebee or ironhide
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> devslash: can you switch to another TTY after the hang?
[00:36] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: I haven't looked at either in 6 months - did one of htem take the lead?
[00:36] <xodiak> jrib: http://pastebin.com/8yvnRHsS
[00:36] <devslash> ActionParsnip: yes but i don't get a login prompt
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: no idea, I'm avoiding that whole mess on purpose
[00:36] <jrib> xodiak: those are just PPAs that don't have quantal; you should disable them
[00:36] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: that's what i've been doing :) blacklisted nvidia and running entirely from onboard intel
[00:37] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: and have a startup script that uses acpi_call to turn the nvidia gpu off. not sure if that's the best wya of doign things but it's been working for me
[00:37] <killown> something new on ubuntu 12.10?
[00:37] <kringel84> PLEASE, take a look at those critical bugs. The filesystem *never* gets cleanly unmounted about the / device remains busy. Unclean shutdown. Wrong inode count, wrong free block count. This is BAD. Because most users won't notice. (Until it might be too late!) Did a clean install with final image twice! Unclean shutdown *always*. The boot parameters "noplymouth nosplash" are helpful to view the boot messages. "Failure to umount root file syste
[00:37] <xodiak> jrib: disable in software sources?
[00:38] <xodiak> jrib: or I
[00:38] <devslash> is my server totally borked ?
[00:38] <xodiak> I'm fine igorning them.
[00:38] <Allavaz> I love ubuntu, but im an appasionated gamer
[00:38] <Allavaz> ._.
[00:38] <GeeEee> Hi all... having an issue upgrading to 12.10
[00:38] <jrib> xodiak: sure, you can disable in software sources
[00:38] <Dragonster82> What issue do you have GeeEee?
[00:38] <xodiak> jrib: appreciate all your help
[00:38] <Allavaz> Is 12.10 working nice?
[00:38] <Dragonster82> And how's it going guys?
[00:39] <Allavaz> cuz im dling it but if i dont work as we want... i will stop the dl ^^
[00:39] <GeeEee> have RAID0 with separate /boot and Grub2 is failing during upgrade
[00:39] <kringel84> Allavaz: Steam release for linux? http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/ Starting with L4D2, nearly all of the catalogue becomes ported.
[00:39] <Allavaz> oh yeees, yee i readed it bru!!
[00:39] <xodiak> jrib: I guess that means no support for MYUNITY in 12.10 yet?
[00:39] <Allavaz> im so anxious!
[00:40] <Allavaz> but it didnt release, true?
[00:40] <tux9th> GeeEee: It seems I had the same problem; I didn't realize it until I rebooted now my system is dead.
[00:40] <GeeEee> I didn't think about it before I kicked off the upgrade through Software Update
[00:40] <jrib> xodiak: I don't know, but I believe I saw that mentioned by someone else earlier
[00:40] <forty9foot> ok, well I am gonna reboot and downgrade my kernel - got the headers, the source, etc, so this is where I try to fix myself :)  back in a while if I don't get on
[00:40] <GeeEee> I haven't rebooted yet.
[00:40] <Allavaz> OH GOOOOOD!!! http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/beta-late-than-never-3/
[00:40] <GeeEee> So I'm still up, for now...
[00:40] <tux9th> great ;>
[00:41] <Allavaz> fckin betaaa!!
[00:41] <climbzilla> omg this is driving me crazy lol...
[00:41] <Allavaz> 12.04 works better than 12.10?
[00:41] <Allavaz> im seeing many people angry with the new version here...
[00:41] <GeeEee> Any ideas how I can get Grub2 installed manually before rebooting?
[00:41] <devslash> ActionParsnip:  can i pm you
[00:42] <climbzilla> Allavaz: I haven't seen any issue with 12.10 that didn't already exist in 12.04 (for me, at least)
[00:42] <climbzilla> performance is fine, so far
[00:42] <kringel84> Allavaz: Valve's CEO Gambell really hates Windows 8. The Steam client for Linux will be e-p-i-c!
[00:42] <nbf> does anyone know where the docs are for creating an ubuntu webapp
[00:42] <nbf> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/
[00:42] <tux9th> GeeEee: if you fix it please write me a notice how you did it
[00:42] <Allavaz> kringel84 goood im sooo haaappyy!
[00:42] <noiro> ubuntu, anyone know how I can add the auto scroll feature on web pages with the middle mouse click?
[00:42] <tux9th> GeeEee: just send me a query or highlite me by writing my name
[00:42] <Allavaz> i also hate W8
[00:43] <Allavaz> emm, i hate windows
[00:43] <Allavaz> but im gamer
[00:43] <Allavaz> Steam in Ubuntu... god, its too good
[00:44] <alexfpms> GeeEee, is it list the kernels when you do: sudo update-initramfs -u && sudo update-grub
[00:45] <nbf> did the steam beta come out?
[00:45] <alexfpms> When Steam comes out ?
[00:45] <kringel84> Allavaz: my last was Win 2K and Vista (ugh!) on a laptop. PS: What video card do you have? 12.10 brings better drivers for Intel, AMD/ATI, and Nvidia. And starting with 12.10, ubuntu will update the graphic drivers more frequently. E.g. you can select between free drivers (nouveau e.g. for nvidia) and then something linke nvidia-stable, nvidia-updates, nvidia-experimental. Nice, isn't it? :) So give 12.10 a try. Because when in a few months t
[00:46] <Allavaz> how to talk to you kringel? as you do it to me
[00:46] <Allavaz> sorry im an irc nab ^^
[00:46] <Allavaz> im using webirc
[00:46] <GeeEee> alexfpms, yes but I run into issues because my /boot constantly runs out of space
[00:46] <Allavaz> @kringel84 test
[00:46] <Allavaz> nope, that isnt the way
[00:47] <alexfpms> GeeEee, how many kernels do you have ?
[00:47] <kringel84> Allavaz: me, too! ^^ just learned today a little more. Notifications work when you type the *other* one's nickname first, e.g. "kringel84: hey!" would give me a notification also.
[00:47] <Allavaz> so...
[00:47] <Allavaz> kringel84 test
[00:47] <Allavaz> it worked?
[00:47] <dr_willis> use of @nickname is a Twitter thang.. not an irc thing. ;)
[00:47] <Allavaz> kringel84: test
[00:47] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  most irc clients notify the person when their nick is said in channel.
[00:47] <Allavaz> it worked?? :S
[00:47] <kringel84> think so! :)
[00:48] <alexfpms> GeeEee, you have to free some space on your boot partition, remove some old kernels if you have one
[00:48] <Allavaz> okay, so, i have an ATI 5670 1 GB GDDR5 graphics card :D
[00:48] <Allavaz> i have bought CS:S in steam
[00:48] <kringel84> Allavaz: depends on the programs your using. I'm on pidgin. But it was correctly.
[00:48] <Allavaz> kringel84 nice
[00:49] <monacelli> Does anybody know why Microsoft fonts are showing up as little boxes in XFCE's font config?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Allavaz: I game in Ubuntu, look intgo Urban Terror and Penumbra. Good times :)
[00:50] <ais523> monacelli: most likely the fonts in question aren't installed/updated properly, you could try apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer (I think that's what it's called, but that's from memory so I might be wrong)
[00:50] <Allavaz> i have bought FIFA 13 in origin.
[00:50] <Allavaz> so, i cant leave windows
[00:50] <Allavaz> but im seeinge
[00:50] <onats> hi guys, so I'm downloading both server version and desktop version
[00:50] <Allavaz> seeing*
[00:50] <Allavaz> the wonderful day
[00:51] <onats> what i want to be able to attain is to have a cloud server available locally
[00:51] <GeeEee> alexfpms, thanks... uninstalling oldest one now
[00:51] <Allavaz> the day when Ubuntu rocks in gaming
[00:51] <Allavaz> everygame works natively on Ubuntu
[00:51] <dr_willis> onats:  the desktop edition can run most all the services you would need.
[00:51] <kringel84> EA is also flirting a very little bit with Linux.
[00:51] <Allavaz> :O
[00:51] <monacelli> ais523: Word.. I'll check out the installer from the repo, I usually just copy them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype and then fc-cache -fv but maybe something weird happened this time.
[00:51] <onats> dr_willis: I'm currently running 8-9 VM's on virtualbox
[00:51] <Allavaz> if Origin comes to ubuntu... ill cry.
[00:51] <Allavaz> xD
[00:51] <ais523> onats: the main difference between the versions is that the desktop version installs a lot of stuff that you're probably going to want to use on the desktop, the server version installs hardly anything and lets you add things to a base image
[00:52] <onats> dr_willis: i want to provide my team of devs to provision their own test machines
[00:52] <kringel84> just rumours, very little though. but Valve's step will have an impact on other major publishers and development studios.
[00:52] <Allavaz> 1 hour for finished download
[00:52] <onats> ais523: ok so can i just use desktop, and install openstack/juju/maas?
[00:52] <Allavaz> ill install it with WUBI
[00:52] <moondog> I installed 12.04 on two machines last night. Guess I'll upgrade tonight. :(
[00:52] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  Hmm.. The torrent of the iso finished here in like 4 min.
[00:52] <kringel84> Allavaz: http://www.phoronix.com/ should be a good read for you. Daily news updates concerning graphic drivers, and games. If any news, phoronix has its first.
[00:52] <Allavaz> dr_willis omfg
[00:52] <ardchoille> Allavaz: one hour?! Are you downloading the itnernet?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> moondog: why? you don't have to. Precise will be supported long after Quantal is EOL
[00:53] <ais523> onats: yeah, you'd have to install it from scratch on either, starting from the desktop makes sense if you're using it interactively; the server version's interesting because of what it doesn't include, most people don't care for having things like a graphics stack or email client on their servers
[00:53] <xangua> ais523: you are confusing the server with the minimal
[00:53] <GeeEee> alexfpms, I ran those commands... result: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic Generating grub.cfg ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sil_bhbgbjdcbcdj5.  Check your device.map. /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sil_bhbgbjdcbcdj5.  Ch
[00:53] <absentbird> Hello, I am having a sound problem. I have followed a lot of Ubuntu documentation and it is still giving me grief. I can see the card with ALSA Mixer but Pulse is just not having it.
[00:53] <moondog> I like the latest :)
[00:53] <diverdude> my pc has been busy creating this image for at least an hour. To be specific, it's the "Creating a persistence file"-stage that's so slow. i am trying to create ubuntu 12.04 server 64 bit usb image
[00:53] <Allavaz> ardchoille my connection is too bad ^^
[00:53] <Allavaz> im from Argentina
[00:53] <ardchoille> Allavaz: :(
[00:53] <diverdude> should i just cancel and try again?
[00:53] <ais523> xangua: not completely; the minimal contains an absolute minimum of things, whereas the server contains things like command-line tools that are generically useful
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[00:54] <dr_willis> diverdude:  how big a file did you tell it?
[00:54] <Guest93791> Anyone know how to fix the GPU lock that occurs when installing from the USB startup disk?
[00:54] <ais523> diverdude: the persistence file is basically it allocating space for a huge number of zeros on the USB stick, you can make it smaller if you like
[00:54] <dr_willis> diverdude:  im not even sure the server edition supports persistence or the same live-usb features as the desktop does...
[00:55] <Allavaz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2250947807.png my speedtest ^^
[00:55] <dr_willis> diverdude:  if you are just going to install from usb. no need for a persstemnce file at all
[00:55] <diverdude> ais523: hmm i see..for how long will this continue?
[00:55] <monacelli> ahh, i just figured it out.  It was a permissions issue.  chmod 644 *.ttf fixed it. :)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Allavaz: damn
[00:55] <ardchoille> Allavaz: Ouch!
[00:55] <Allavaz> hehe
[00:55] <diverdude> dr_willis: ok..why is it then creating a persistence file?
[00:55] <kringel84> Guest93791: are you sure it's a GPU lock? sometimes USB sticks tend to make a few pauses. with a minute, max two. if it doesn't continue, then surely it's a lockup
[00:55] <dr_willis> diverdude:  no idea what tool you are using..
[00:55] <Allavaz> but i have Origin running
[00:56] <ais523> diverdude: you tell it what sort of persistence file to create in the startup disk creator, you can restart and just tell it not to if you want to
[00:56] <SoggyPinata> Hi everyone, would anyone mind helping me with regards to xubuntu 12.10 and and my asus eee pc?
[00:56] <Allavaz> im dling ubuntu from servers, just not torrent
[00:56] <diverdude> dr_willis: the disk creator
[00:56] <Guest93791> Yes, I'm positive. I'm getting a message bounced back that it's a GPU lock.
[00:56] <Allavaz> im idiot ._.
[00:56] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: https://gist.github.com/3915654
[00:56] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  kubuntu torrent here - is estimateing 6 min for me to get the kubuntu iso. ;)
[00:56] <alexfpms> GeeEee, have never seen the that errors
[00:56] <Allavaz> but what is ur DLing speed??
[00:57] <dr_willis> diverdude:  you can just 'dd' theiso file to the USB if all you plan on doing is booting/installing it.
[00:57] <Allavaz> can u show me ur speedtest? ^^
[00:57] <SoggyPinata> I just finished installing xubuntu 12.10 on my eee pc and I am unable to boot into the UI, can anyone help me?
[00:57] <dr_willis> torrent is saying 2.88MB/s right now
[00:57] <ais523> SoggyPinata: what error message are you getting, and what's the last thing that seems to happen correctly before it goes wrong?
[00:57] <xeocs> can i possiblely install server edition on a flash driver? help..
[00:57] <dr_willis> xeocs:  you can do a 'full' normal install to a flash drive.. yes..
[00:58] <Allavaz> OH GOD
[00:58] <SoggyPinata> ais523: I am getting a "fatal error: unable to find screens". It just sits at the xubuntu terminal
[00:58] <Allavaz> where do u live?
[00:58] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  Indiana.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: run the command through and upload to the server, a URL will be generated
[00:58] <Guest93791> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
[00:58] <SoggyPinata> ais523: I can access the file structure, but XFC isn't loading.
[00:58] <ais523> SoggyPinata: do you get the same output if you try to run startx by hand?
[00:58] <xeocs> ok,does the install process the same on a disk? thx
[00:59] <SoggyPinata> ais523: yes sir, I tried that. That's how I found out about the message.
[00:59] <alexfpms> GeeEee, you had this error after upgrading ?
[00:59] <ais523> aha
[00:59] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Oh, whoops. Here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=29f3171339ae2779be52b34753ddf1ed4f75691a
[00:59] <ais523> SoggyPinata: is there more information in the X log? it's at /var/log/X.something IIRC
[00:59] <FlyingElvis> whats the command in terminal to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?
[00:59] <stylewar> ?
[01:00] <stylewar> apt-get upgrade?
[01:00] <SoggyPinata> ais523: let me see, one sec
[01:00] <monacelli> isn't it update-manager -d ?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: if you run the sound app, is the correct device set for sound output?
[01:00] <Ketterer> is webapps working with the regular chromium in the repos?
[01:00] <ais523> monacelli: that's the GUI update manager
[01:00] <GeeEee> the upgrade errored out
[01:00] <Allavaz> grrr i lost connection
[01:01] <GeeEee> I haven't rebooted yet... makes me nervous because it didn't seem to rollback the updated files
[01:01] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: There is no output device listed. This started when I got a new motherboard.
[01:01] <Allavaz> hey guys how to dl ubuntu in a torrent??
[01:01] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  i just click on the .torrent link and it opens in my torrent client....
[01:01] <stylewar> google Allavaz
[01:01] <Allavaz> oh i found it
[01:01] <Allavaz> i found it ^^
[01:01] <ardchoille> Allavaz: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[01:01] <ais523> GeeEee: you may be able to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f" in a terminal to continue the update, if you think that's a good idea
[01:02] <stylewar> FlyingElvis: apt-get upgrade not work for you?
[01:02] <Allavaz> ye ye i found it ^^ thanks
[01:02] <absentbird> Allavaz: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[01:02] <dr_willis> you do NOT use apt-get upgrade, to upgrade to the next release.
[01:02] <xangua> !info unity-chromium-extension | Ketterer
[01:02] <absentbird> Allavaz: oh, nevermind, I was too slow.
[01:02] <Allavaz> yes yes i found it stop hahahaha
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds and reboot
[01:02] <Allavaz> oh dont be sad
[01:02] <FlyingElvis> dr_willis, what is the command then pls
[01:02] <ais523> dr_willis: you use dist-upgrade to continue an aborted upgrade, though (and probably you need -f depending on why it was aborted)
[01:02] <Allavaz> xDD
[01:03] <dr_willis> FlyingElvis:  you use that do-release-upgrade that people have been saying i belive
[01:03] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[01:03] <Guest93791> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
[01:03] <ais523> FlyingElvis: dr_willis is correct, it's do-release-upgrade with some arguments I can't remember
[01:03] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Alright, I will see you after reboot. Thanks for the help.
[01:04] <FlyingElvis> ok ty
[01:04] <GeeEee> I'm not sure that I feel comfortable continuing the upgrade because it's not properly reading my array to install Grub
[01:04] <dr_willis> i bet do-release-upgrade --help   may show them. ;)
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: yuou also have an old model=clevo  in your alsa-base.conf which may not work with the new hardware
[01:04] <tucemiux> anyone knows of a unix channel in freenode?
[01:04] <SoggyPinata> ais523: The only other thing I could find was "Failed to detect GEM"
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> tucemiux: #unix   maybe
[01:05] <ais523> SoggyPinata: hmm, I'm out of ideas, there's no obvious leads (I mean, X is failing to detect the displays, but that much is obvious); do you have a particularly old Intel graphics card? 12.10 dropped support for some of those
[01:05] <tucemiux> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[01:05] <GeeEee> I remember now that I've had to install using the Alternate CD... for some reason it would correctly read my array
[01:05] <alexfpms> GeeEee, what happend? it aborted the process ?
[01:05] <ianliu> I have upgraded from ubuntu 12.04 and I don't have all features announced, such as Web Apps and the Ubuntu One indicator... how can I get them to work?
[01:06] <BarkingFish> Yay!  Well I'm part way to solving my problem, ActionParsnip - I'm back up to 3.2.0-32.51 for now.  Where would my problem get filed for a bug?  I mean, who makes ndiswrapper-dkms?
[01:06] <Allavaz> im dling now from a torren
[01:06] <Allavaz> torrent*
[01:06] <dr_willis> webapps is a neat idea - but is very flakey.. noticed them not working here when i just looked.
[01:06] <Allavaz> same speed or a bit higher than the normal download
[01:06] <SoggyPinata> ais523: I'm using a Asus EEE 1025C netbook and it's not that old.
[01:06] <ardchoille> Allavaz: I hope that's faster for you
[01:06] <ais523> BarkingFish: you can use ubuntu-bug and the name of a package to start filling out a bug against the package
[01:07] <GeeEee> alexfpms, I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f and it just came back that nothing was upgraded
[01:07] <absentbird> Alright, I am back and still no joy.
[01:07] <ais523> SoggyPinata: not sure, then, sorry
[01:07] <Allavaz> ardchoille 118 kbps :/
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> BarkingFish: just run:  ubuntu-bug ndiswrapper-dkms    and it will start the process
[01:07] <SoggyPinata> ais523: thanks anyway
[01:07] <BarkingFish> ActionParsnip, can I be certain it's ndiswrapper-dkms which is the problem?
[01:07] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: I should probably mention that I purged PulseAudio because it was causing lockups so it is currently not installed.
[01:07] <Allavaz> ill play rally, bye all and thanks for your help
[01:07] <stylewar> dr_willis he has to do an apt-get install update-manager-core
[01:07] <ardchoille> Allavaz: from my experience torrents pick up speed as time goes
[01:07] <Silicon_Salvatio> I need some assistance
[01:07] <Allavaz> archoille true bro
[01:07] <stylewar> then do-release-upgrade
[01:07] <Ketterer> Is there a way to get back wobbly windows? I have had it for years now and it is one thing i always loved, it just gave things a nicer feel
[01:08] <BarkingFish> I'm running in 32.51 now, so if I file at this point, it'll file the bug against the build on 3.2.0-32.51, won't it? :)
[01:08] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, hey you there?
[01:08] <dr_willis> stylewar:  no idea. I rarely if ever upgrade to newer releases
[01:08] <stylewar> dr_willis: obviously me neither .. lol
[01:08] <trism> BarkingFish: failing to build? bug 1023645 , seems it needs updating to 1.58 (I don't know if it is out yet)
[01:08] <ais523> Ketterer: try running compizconfig settings manager (you might have to install it first), it lets you change all those sorts of options
[01:08] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: yes
[01:09] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so i tried the dkpg thing and i got something to startup haproxy after that, it ended
[01:09] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: as long as there were no errors, you should be ok.
[01:09] <BarkingFish> trism - brilliant.  Can I attach that to a question I posted?  #211619
[01:09] <Ketterer> I have that installed and running, but it seems that it is stripped down
[01:09] <Silicon_Salvatio> I have nothing but a blank screen compiz failed. no dash or menu bar
[01:10] <BarkingFish> I don't know when the bug was posted, but I posted the question about an hour ago
[01:10] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, it went haproxy already running, action start fail, error processing haproxy, errors, exit
[01:10] <Ketterer> so i thought maybe i would try to install the plugin package compiz-core but that obviuosly already installed
[01:10] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: pastebin
[01:10] <Guest93791> Is there known issues with the ISOs? I've burnt it to disk, and started a USB installer but I keep getting a GPU lock one I try to install
[01:10] <trism> BarkingFish: sure can
[01:11] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, my linux laptop cant access the internet, i'm on my desktop atm
[01:11] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Any thoughts on what to try next?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: yuou also have an old model=clevo  in your alsa-base.conf which may not work with the new hardware
[01:12] <ki4ro_> .
[01:12] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Should I remove that?
[01:12] <BarkingFish> trism, ok - i've linked bug 1023645 to question 211619, I'll leave it at that for now - I can still get on the internet, all I've done is reinstalled the headers for 3.2.0-32 generic, which allowed me to rebuild ndiswrapper-dkms against that kernel :)
[01:12] <ianliu> How can I get Web Apps to work? I'm in Gmail but there is nothing different...
[01:12] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: well you can try just purging haproxy (install it back later) and see if that succeeds
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: yes as you changed hardware, didn't you?
[01:13] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Yeah. Should I just delete the whole file and regenerate it?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: no, just that line, then reboot
[01:13] <Silicon_Salvatio> help, upgraded and compiz crashes on startup. no dash or menu bar
[01:13] <Ketterer> Compiz setting manager does not have half of the opetions it has had for the last 4 years, and wobbly windows is missing
[01:15] <Guest93791> I have a blank purple screen when using the LiveCD,m with only two icons on the bottom of the screen
[01:15] <alexfpms> Ketterer, really ?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest93791: what video chip do you use?
[01:15] <ais523> Ketterer: what about compiz-plugins, are the missing plugins in there? only other package I could find that looked relevant
[01:15] <Ketterer> yess
[01:15] <alexfpms> Ketterer, sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:15] <Guest93791> Nvidia GTX580
[01:15] <ardchoille> Ketterer: the wobbly windows plugin is definitely there, I saw it two days ago. Did you install all of the plugins?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest93791: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[01:16] <ais523> alexfpms: compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main are dummy packages
[01:16] <alexfpms> Ketterer, you will see that wobbly windows are still there
[01:16] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, it was short so i just manually wrote it out
[01:16] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, whoops link http://pastebin.com/t9FHkH8g
[01:16] <alexfpms> ais523, it woks
[01:16] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: stop haproxy and try again
[01:16] <Guest93791> Hoiw do I add that? All I have is a screen that looks like this:  http://i.stack.imgur.com/GtEi5.png
[01:16] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, hmm how?
[01:16] <ais523> alexfpms: compiz-plugins is the replacement, you probably shouldn't be pointing people to transitional packages (although it will work right now because dpkg recognises old package names for a while)
[01:17] <Ketterer> i only installed ccsm so far, but i will do the others right now
[01:17] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: probably « stop haproxy »
[01:17] <WeThePeople> where can i find a manual that describes what sudo -i, sudo -s, sudo -v, do?
[01:17] <Silicon_Salvatio> all i have is a desktop, no dash or menu bar
[01:18] <ardchoille> WeThePeople: man sudo
[01:18] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, that didnt work.
[01:18] <devslash> I upgraded ubuntu server to 12.10 and now it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[01:18] <alexfpms> ais523, yeah but they will be missing for years to come
[01:18] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: be more specific
[01:18] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: So still no sound.
[01:18] <WeThePeople> thanks
[01:18] <devslash> i can only boot in recovery mode
[01:18] <Ketterer> hmm alright that worked really well, do you know why it isnt installed by defult anymore, or did ccsm used to be a meta package for all of the plugins
[01:19] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,it returned this :  stop: unknown job: haproxy
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: are you using HDMI audio?
[01:19] <absentbird> No
[01:19] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: service haproxy stop
[01:19] <no_internet> I loaded the 12.04.1 LTS amd64 cd and the cd could not find the internet. My 10.04 finds internet just fine.  Has anyone else had this issue?
[01:19] <Draton> Hey guys - anyone get separate X screens working on 12.10 w/ nvidia drivers?
[01:19] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: No, I am using standard analog audio
[01:19] <alexfpms> Ketterer, look what ais523 said
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Draton: its an option in nvidia-settings if memory serves
[01:19] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i ran dpkg again and i got the same thing
[01:20] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: did you stop haproxy first?
[01:20] <Draton> ActionParsnip: Tried unfortunately didn't seem to work.  Got the typical 'gray' x screen w/ a X cursor
[01:20] <xyzone> no_internet, maybe wifi firmware needs install?
[01:20] <gmachine_24> Running 10.04 LTS LLynx after latest update I could not boot the computer. 2 error lines: hd2 cannot get C/H/S values and you need to load the kernel first.
[01:20] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, yes, i did stop haproxy haproxy
[01:20] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: did you verify haproxy was no longer running?
[01:20] <Silicon_Salvatio> upgraded to 12.10 and compiz crashes on startup, no dash or menu bar
[01:21] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, well i received : *Stopping haproxy haproxy : i thought that was enough
[01:21] <gmachine_24> fixed this, at least temp, by editing the boot command to read set boot=(hd0,1) and that fixed it for this boot. But am wondering if this is a permanent fix?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: is there an option in BIOS to disable HDMI audio?
[01:21] <gmachine_24> sorry, "set root=(hd0,1)" not as I first typed it
[01:21] <Jimster480-Lapto> sup
[01:22] <gmachine_24> state your business Jimster
[01:22] <Jimster480-Lapto> ?
[01:22] <gmachine_24> do you have a question or problem
[01:22] <no_internet> xyzone, I've never had this issue in any other install cd.  I will download wifi firmware package and try install manually, thanks.
[01:22] <gmachine_24> if so, out with it
[01:23] <Ketterer> Thank you for the help it is much appriciated.
[01:23] <xyzone> no_internet, well are you connecting with wifi?
[01:23] <Silicon_Salvatio> anyone gonna help me
[01:23] <Ketterer> I have one other issue tho
[01:23] <Jimster480-Lapto> no i dont have any question or problem
[01:23] <Jimster480-Lapto> im just seeing wasup
[01:23] <no_internet> xyzone: no, wired
[01:23] <gmachine_24> people, please, ask your questions, state your problem or remain quiet
[01:23] <BarkingFish> trism, one minor problem, the bug you linked me to is great - but it doesn't mention where I can download ndiswrapper 1.58rc1 from :)
[01:23] <xyzone> no_internet, then that's not it
[01:24] <trism> BarkingFish: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/files/testing/
[01:24] <BarkingFish> once again, thank you trism :D Much appreciated.
[01:24] <no_internet> xyzone:  I even installed an update to my nic card driver and still nothing
[01:25] <gmachine_24> let me try this another way: where is the grub2.cfg file that I can edit?
[01:25] <bjrohan> I have Grsync all set up and running fine for it's first run, how do I set it up to auto-backup / sync every day?
[01:25] <no_internet> xyxone: but 10.04 LTS works just fine
[01:25] <Ketterer> I have downloaded the ati proprietary driver from their site, and usaually it is simple install, but today it says that there is something missing to preform the install, this is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288235/
[01:26] <alexfpms> Ketterer, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[01:26] <dr_willis> Ketterer:  Did you even try the versions in the repos?
[01:26] <alexfpms> Ketterer, then re-install drivers
[01:26] <ejv> bjrohan: cron
[01:27] <Ketterer> I had but it threw back a server error earleir so i thought i would just go dl them straight off the site
[01:27] <no_internet> xyxone: I also noticed that sound did not work either.  Perhaps related?
[01:28] <bjrohan> ejv, thanks. I am not all that familiar with Linux . . .  yet but getting there, that is why I chose Grsync for the GUI. How would I get it to autorun with cron?
[01:28] <Ketterer> should i try it again?
[01:28] <alexfpms> try what?
[01:29] <ejv> bjrohan: write a shell script that contains your rsync operation(s), then add the path to your crontab list
[01:29] <ejv> bjrohan: if grsync is worth its weight in salt as a program, you should be able to ask it for the rsync command it's performing
[01:29] <bjrohan> my rsync is done through Grsync, perhaps since I have it set up this way, i can now convert it to a regular rsync and script it?
[01:30] <Ketterer> sorry dr_willis  i did try the repos but it returned a server error so i thought i would just go dl them straight off the site, should i try the repos again?
[01:30] <gmachine_24> my grug.cfg file says "set root='(hd2,1)" which is wrong; it needs to be hd0,1 but I cannot figure out how this is chosen bc I use UUID in /etc/fstab. Anyone?
[01:30] <ejv> how are all the brave guinea pigs doing this evening/morning? :)
[01:31] <celthunder> bjrohan: what's wrong with your normal rsync to begin with? grsync should call rsync
[01:31] <dr_willis> Ketterer:  you could have just tried them instead of asking. :) using the drivers from the ati site is definatly somthing to be avoided.
[01:31] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so i removed haproxy then reinstalled it, dpkg went through cleanly, now what?
[01:31] <bjrohan> celthunder nothing that I know of. I just started with Grsync for the GUI since I am not very good at command line Linux . . .  yet :-)
[01:31] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: is the "ubuntu-desktop" package installed?
[01:31] <ejv> bjrohan: you are correct, check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[01:31] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, how do i check?
[01:32] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <bjrohan> ejv thank you
[01:32] <ejv> bjrohan: cron tab can contain either a command or path that contains a set of commands/instructions, it's fairly straightforward
[01:33] <BarkingFish> thanks for your help ActionParsnip and trism - i've set up the layout for 1.58rc1, so I'm gonna nip into the 3.5.0 kernel and build it :)
[01:33] <BarkingFish> see you about
[01:34] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, looks like yes http://pastebin.com/WyL1V31m
[01:34] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: run « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade »
[01:35] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, got this http://pastebin.com/hq1iu89S
[01:36] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: you should be ok then
[01:36] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so do i restart? i mean essentially i havent changed anything and i can't open up with unity (it stays black for a long time)
[01:37] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: create a new user and see if the issue with unity persists
[01:37] <uqwuwq> i want free shell for eggdrop ?
[01:38] <jrib> !ot | uqwuwq
[01:39] <jerknextdoor> Upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 from update manager, upon reboot it says "error: file not found" with a Grub Rescue prompt.  I am unable to find anything on the forums that works.  I'm trying to boot to a LiveCD, but am still unsure what I would need to do.  Reinstall Grub?
[01:39] <Draton> jerknextdoor: i just dealt with that but i was able to hit grub
[01:40] <andyc101> I try a connect to #raspberrypi it prompts me to register with services?
[01:40] <Jimster480-Lapto> pistons are getting DESTROYED
[01:40] <Jimster480-Lapto> heat beating them by 29 points
[01:40] <andyc101> Any ideas.
[01:40] <Draton> jekrnextdoor: what i did was a sudo git-install /yoursdapath
[01:41] <jerknextdoor> Draton: It doesn't even hit grub.  As soon as it gets past my BIOS it goes to that screen.
[01:41] <ejv> !ot | Jimster480-Lapto
[01:41] <graingert> andyc101: #freenode
[01:41] <jrib> !register | andyc101
[01:41] <bazhang> Jimster480-Lapto, wrong channel
[01:41] <Draton> jerknextdoor: one sec let me see if i can't find the article again
[01:42] <Draton> jerknextdoor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/187862/after-update-get-error-file-not-found-followed-by-grub-rescue
[01:42] <alexfpms> jerknextdoor, load from live cd and re-install grub
[01:42] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so new user goes to purple screen then comes back to login screen, original account is still on black screen
[01:42] <Draton> jerknextdoor: alexfpms's suggestion will also work (equivalent to what i did)
[01:42] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: check ~/.xsession-errors for each
[01:43] <Draton> jerknextdoor: sudo grub-install /dev/sda (/dev/sda will change depending on your drive config), then sudo update-grub
[01:43] <jerknextdoor> Draton: alexfpms: that was my next option, i'll just skip straight to it.
[01:43] <Jimster480-Lapto> lol sorry guys
[01:43] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, hmm nope, it seems to fix itself albeit taking long time :>. seems like it is fixed after all though... why did i get system errors in openbox wm?
[01:43] <Draton> jerknextdoor: definitely the easiest way to go, seems overkill but easiest way to do it
[01:44] <chovynz> what is .viminfo for?
[01:44] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: what errors?
[01:44] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i dont know, it says system error, report ?
[01:44] <jrib> chovynz: :he viminfo
[01:44] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, not doing it now though
[01:44] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: I don't know
[01:45] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, ah nope i got it in unity: system program problem detected, do you want to report the problem now? then there is cancel and report problem
[01:46] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: is this with the new account or old?
[01:46] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, old, i cant event get on my new account
[01:46] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: why?
[01:46] <Yugnoswam> can anyone here help me install ubuntu via unetbootin/pen drive?
[01:46] <chovynz> jrib: what does that do?
[01:46] <jrib> chovynz: do you know what vim is?
[01:46] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i dont really know, it just turn purple screen and then goes back to login screen
[01:47] <chovynz> jrib: a cli text editor?
[01:47] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: so what was in the ~/.xsession-errors for the new account?
[01:47] <jrib> chovynz: type what I said in vim
[01:47] <chovynz> ah
[01:47] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, didnt check, don't i have to go into debug mode at the start in order to access this?
[01:47] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, what's the problem?
[01:47] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: just press ctrl-alt-f1 and use a tty
[01:48] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: Well I'm not sure which version i have since there is about 10 versions of 12.10
[01:48] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: reckon you could help please/
[01:48] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, depends on what you want
[01:49] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: just help with installing linux via unetbootin
[01:49] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, oh wow, didnt know this feature, so how does tty work? tty <location>/<filename>?
[01:49] <Yugnoswam> like i said, im not sure which version i have
[01:49] <Yugnoswam> live/hdmedia/netinstall etc
[01:49] <kenokabe> new era
[01:49] <kenokabe> hi all
[01:50] <chovynz> jrib: why would fdupes -r be calling .viminfo (and encounter an error)?
[01:50] <kenokabe> I have been beta testing quantal, and now it's released.
[01:50] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, ok
[01:51] <ardchoille> chovynz: .viminfo is where vim history is kept, perhaps that is the cause
[01:51] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, you want make a live cd ?
[01:51] <kenokabe> now I want to install 12.10 from scratch on my MacBookAir. Is there a way  to install base system only just via wifi
[01:51] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: check pm at the top
[01:51] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, additionally im getting these messages every few seconds http://pastebin.com/QWrkpNzc
[01:51] <chovynz> ardchoille: would fdupes be making a log file?
[01:51] <kenokabe> since, my machine doesn't have eithernet
[01:51] <ardchoille> chovynz: no idea
[01:52] <aeon-ltd> kenokabe: i don't think that's possible, unless network install has some features i don't know about. i think you're limited to usb.
[01:53] <kenokabe> auon-ltd thanks for your answer
[01:54] <makuto> Hello! This is a test
[01:55] <ais523> makuto: it worked, but please try to keep irrelevant lines out of this channel, it moves quite quickly
[01:55] <ki4ro_> makuto: It worked!
[01:55] <kenokabe> is there any CLI only version like debian
[01:55] <graingert> makuto: I can't see what you said, maybe you're muted
[01:56] <devslash> is ubuntu 12.10 stable ?
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> yes
[01:56] <graingert> devslash: yes
[01:56] <graingert> devslash: it's supported
[01:56] <ais523> I'm not so sure, the upgrade process crashed on me and I'm trying to continue it manually
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> kenokabe: the server edition is cli
[01:56] <kenokabe> aeon-ltd, I thought so,thx
[01:56] <ejv> stable? no, supported yes, stable? no. please don't do anything mission critical with 12.10.
[01:57] <adoniscik> does anyone have experience with recoll?
[01:57] <chovynz> !anyone | adoniscik
[01:57] <graingert> ejv: I was running 12.10 on my production machines throughout the summer
[01:57] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: you can use the "less" program to view files
[01:57] <jrib> chovynz: I don't know
[01:57] <graingert> ejv: totally stable
[01:57] <graingert> ish
[01:58] <adoniscik> how can you search a string with recoll? quotes don't seem to help
[01:58] <ejv> maybe im just old and jaded, but I find it to be a bad idea in any enterprise, high availability environment
[01:58] <makuto> What're the details with the Ubuntu Software comp?
[01:58] <graingert> ejv: which is why you use a bunch of different types of machines
[01:59] <ais523> you wouldn't expect all known issues to be shaken out of a distro the day after release
[01:59] <graingert> ejv: and run with the assumption of chaos monkey
[01:59] <chovynz> chaos monkey oi oi oi !
[01:59] <kenokabe> aeon-ltd, do you know the server.iso includes macbook broadcom wifi driver??
[01:59] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i have no such directory :<
[02:00] <ejv> right, I only just converted some of my local 10.04.4 machines to 12.04.1, the gentoo herd don't need touching, same for the bsd flock hehe
[02:01] <aeon-ltd> kenokabe: no idea on that
[02:01] <kenokabe> aeon-ltd, after googling a bit, perhaps, I can be optimistic
[02:01] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: I must go now; good night.  Others can likely help you
[02:02] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, a/lright thanks for the help, good night
[02:03] <devslash> what are the general security risks of having X installed in Ubuntu server
[02:03] <graingert> devslash: none
[02:03] <graingert> ish
[02:04] <OerHeks> kenokabe, no it does not, the bcm for mac is in the MACTEl ppa > https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[02:04] <devslash> ?
[02:04] <ejv> just xserver? fairly safe, the bigger DE's can be more potentially problematic.
[02:04] <devslash> well X with Gnome
[02:04] <KRomeleoN> im having trouble
[02:04] <sysop2> NE1 here good with SVN?
[02:04] <kenokabe> OerHeks thanks for your input
[02:04] <jtanner> having X encourages people to install other X11 apps and therefore ruin your security
[02:04] <sysop2> I just want to know if I need to backup db/strings
[02:05] <sysop2> mine is 14gb and is killing my backups
[02:05] <KRomeleoN> i installed 12.10 with lvm,  my ssd shows 3 partitions, partition 1 is 200mb and ext 2 then i have partition 2 which shows as 90gb ext 4 and partition 5 that shows as 90gb....its only a 90gb drive
[02:05] <KRomeleoN> the 2 big partitions are ext4
[02:06] <KRomeleoN> wht is this ext2 partition?
[02:06] <ejv> if you want gnome, perhaps use the --no-install-recommends option for the ubuntu-desktop meta-package
[02:06] <ejv> that will reduce the footprint a bit
[02:06] <WeThePeople> how to perm. change mac address in lucid?
[02:06] <devslash> I'm considering installing X on my server.
[02:07] <KRomeleoN> should i redo my entire 12.10 install?
[02:07] <gordonjcp> devslash: that's pretty much never a good idea
[02:07] <blackshirt> devslash, thats atually not needed so much
[02:07] <gordonjcp> devslash: why on earth would you do that?
[02:07] <devslash> i dunno i don't need it. i do everything from the command line...
[02:07] <devslash> just a thought
[02:08] <gordonjcp> devslash: leave it off, that's less stuff to go wrong
[02:08] <blackshirt> not a big problem
[02:08] <ejv> isn't it obvious? there are simply some applications that don't have good command line equivalents; stopped acting so shocked. lol
[02:08] <gordonjcp> devslash: of course, if you add something like Imagemagick that'll end up pulling in X
[02:08] <gordonjcp> ejv: none of which are relevant on a server
[02:08] <KRomeleoN> also, my ssd, which is he os is sdb but my storage drive is sda?!? why
[02:09] <gordonjcp> ejv: there's no real problem with adding packages more typically used on a server to a desktop - like, having a local instance of Apache for example
[02:09] <gordonjcp> ejv: using an X desktop on a server is pointless
[02:09] <DaemonicApathy> KRomeleoN: Chances are that partition 2 is an extended partition, which contains partition 5, so 90 + 90 = 90 here...
[02:09] <blackshirt> not a matter thats sda or sdbb,sdc ...
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> daemon,  but why do i have a 200mb partion 1 that is ext2?
[02:10] <DaemonicApathy> Boot partition?
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> DaemonicApathy,
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> yeah
[02:10] <ejv> devslash: check out the --no-install-recommends option when querying the different environments: ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lxde, etc. -- you'll be able to compare install footprints.
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> boot partition, why is ext 2?
[02:11] <KRomeleoN> can i make it ext4 whithout starting over?
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> KRomeleoN: *shrug* If that's the boot partition, and it works, which filesystem it is doesn't really matter.
[02:11] <obtrusivemouse> xposting this from ubuntu forums: Hi, I was doing an upgrade today on my 12.04 to 12.10 and for some reason during the upgrade, the power in my laptop went out. When I went to turn it on, the laptop ended up in a powerhogging, i think error prone mode, but I can still run 12.10 on it. Now I've tried to get someone to help me before and he had me use dpkg, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update and everyt
[02:11] <obtrusivemouse> hing went smoothly. But I still get popups saying tehre are system errors, everything is really slow and I keep getting this when i go to the debug client https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ux/+bug/925760) I think the installation wasn't cleaned up and some packages werent install. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[02:11] <blackshirt> i think related a ssd devices
[02:12] <devslash> env ok thanks
[02:12] <DaemonicApathy> obtrusivemouse: You might consider a complete backup and clean install.
[02:12] <ejv> i won't stand in your way of getting the job done
[02:13] <ejv> understand it's not good security practice, but it's viable
[02:13] <obtrusivemouse> DaemonicApathy, yeah, but trying to see if i can not have to go through the hassle of the installation again, seems like it's fixable
[02:14] <ejv> devslash: you might also check out Nomachine NX or freenx, so you can remote into your desktop environment, and control your apps that way
[02:14] <DaemonicApathy> obtrusivemouse: That link is broken, btw.
[02:14] <blackshirt> kromeleon, i think that was possible to convert the old format extt to new format
[02:14] <obtrusivemouse> daemonicapathy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/925760
[02:15] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, ok. I won't be any help to you, then. Sorry.
[02:15] <bkfitz> Question: Does anyone know how to change the purple boot splash screen/background?  I've tried ubuntu tweak (which successfully changed the 'login' background, but not the boot splash screen), and I've also tried installing a new Plymouth theme (solar) which successfully changed the screen that comes up when I shutdown, but still doesn't change the initial boot screen purple.
[02:15] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz, you could replace the image file directly...
[02:15] <KRomeleoN> hmmmm, how to change partition to ext4 tho?
[02:15] <obtrusivemouse> daemonicapathy, is there a way to reinstall from ubuntu itself?
[02:16] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, try    sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all
[02:16] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I think I tried that as well... how would you do that
[02:16] <DaemonicApathy> obtrusivemouse: Sure, from an external machine, but a LiveUSB/DVD is easier.
[02:16] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, it will take a lot of time
[02:16] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Hold on, I'll find the path for you.
[02:16] <blackshirt> kromeleon,  i don't know exaxtly...you could google it.. I have read it possible
[02:16] <bkfitz> /usr/shared/images/grub
[02:16] <ejv> gordonjcp: i disagree, for one thing the ubuntu-server footprint is far less than that of the desktop version, even if you retroactively incorporate a DE later on, there are some GUI apps that are simply more pleasant to administer remotely
[02:17] <bkfitz> then edit /etc/default/grub
[02:17] <bkfitz> no dice
[02:17] <nOStahl2> how is ubuntu 12.10
[02:17] <cbeust> nOStahl2: the best ubuntu so far
[02:17] <phear> love it
[02:17] <steven-> kinda like the beta yesterday
[02:17] <bkfitz> yes I ran update-grub
[02:17] <ejv> the best ubuntu was fiesty fawn
[02:17] <steven-> just a different name^^
[02:18] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, trying it, seems like nothing is happening, is this normal?
[02:18] <ctjctj> I just upgraded to 12.10.  Pulseaudio is giving me "Failed to create secure directory..." The issue is that sudo touch test.file works but sudo chown uid test.file changes the ownership to "nobody".  Home is NFSv4 mounted through autofs.
[02:19] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, it should be reconfiguring packages
[02:20] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, so like messages should be flying everywhere right?
[02:20] <upset> Changing default applications has no effect. What can I do?
[02:20] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: going to reboot to try something... be back in 3
[02:22] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, not sure, but IIRC you get messages when there are differences between current and installed configs
[02:22] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: back... love how fast :)
[02:23] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: SSD is always amazing. :-) I can't seem to remember where the purple background is, though...
[02:23] <DaemonicApathy> The logo is in /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/
[02:23] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: yeah... SSD on a shweeet new lenovo x1 carbon
[02:23] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, i have to admit i want to cancel it to see if i messed up because it's been blank the whole time... so this is supposedly going to reinstall each package?
[02:23] <bkfitz> ubuntu tweak is just editing the grub file right?
[02:24] <cbeust> i really wish I could borrow somoene's SSD for a few days to see how much I think it is worth it
[02:25] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, reconfigure, not reinstall. you should have thought about it before running it...
[02:25] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: No. GRUB is just a boot manager, not the settings on your OS.
[02:25] <AndChat194889> 3rd attempt at installing 12.10. Dual boot with win 7
[02:26] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Unless that was the screen you were trying to change?
[02:26] <DaemonicApathy> I may have misunderstood...
[02:28] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, i assume everything was installed correctly since it passed the other tests,hopefully it'll fix everything.
[02:29] <alusion> ActionParsnip, you are awesome. Thank you for being a great contributor and a kool guy in general  [trance is awesome btw]
[02:29] <jilebedev> If I write a script (foo.sh) that contains a whole lotta root-only commands, and each command takes ages to complete - is it safe to simply sudo ./foo.sh and be certain that each command in the script will be ran with superuser privileges?
[02:30] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, well, press ctrl+c... it will probably mess some packages, if not all of them
[02:30] <blackshirt> jilebedev, commonly, yes
[02:31] <phyre222> anyone know i use the git repository thing using git
[02:31] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, what else could i be running to try to fix this? if nothing, might as well
[02:31] <cairne> could you include sudo in the script
[02:31] <phyre222> never used it and kinda nuew to linux
[02:31] <jilebedev> blackshirt: ah, commonly's not gonna cut it here. guess man sudo it is for me :)
[02:32] <blackshirt> phyre222, you can use them if you want .... But it was more complicated than usual
[02:32] <phyre222> just tryin to figure out how to text plugins for ddg
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> alusion: thanks :)
[02:32] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, apt-get -f install  , dpkg --cconfigure -a  (not the same as the other command)
[02:32] <obtrusivemouse> phyre222, make sure you have git installed but basically you do << git clone <git url>>>
[02:32] <blackshirt> jilebedev, if you config sudo for some limit command, you can't do it for your script
[02:33] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, also, if you only see a blank screen while and after booting, try removing "quiet splash" from the kernel command line in grub
[02:33] <phyre222> but i wanna create my own plugin and test it
[02:33] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, configure or cconfigure?
[02:33] <phyre222> which i already created a basic one just tryin to figuure out how to install it
[02:34] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, configure,, sorry
[02:34] <phyre222> and or upload it to install it
[02:34] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, i get --configure is not understood
[02:35] <phyre222> i have the github account all setup
[02:35] <pepee> phyre222, read the manpage, there are some tutorials in google too
[02:36] <phyre222> i have
[02:36] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, can you post the command and the error msg in pastebin?
[02:36] <phear> new office 2010 works with outlook now guys
[02:36] <phear> just a fyi
[02:36] <phear> check appdb
[02:36] <DaemonicApathy> Phear, how is that relevant here?
[02:36] <phyre222> sry in the wrong chan
[02:37] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, or just tell me what command did you use?
[02:37] <phear> wine development with the new 12.10
[02:37] <DaemonicApathy> Ohh, ok. Thanks for the tip.
[02:37] <phear> interoperability is key to all systems
[02:38] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, basically i did what you said: apt-get -f install, dpkg --configure -a: and it gives me: E: command line option --configure is not understood
[02:38] <DaemonicApathy> phear: I missed the 'appdb' for a sec. sorry about that. :-)
[02:38] <phear> all good my friend
[02:38] <overclucker> phyre222, pepee: do you mean dpkg-reconfigure -a ?
[02:38] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, there is a comma there
[02:38] <pepee> I mean, those are two commands
[02:39] <pepee> yeah phear
[02:39] <pepee> err no
[02:39] <pepee> ugh
[02:41] <cairne> anyone having issues with firefox? if it crashes it wont let me reopen up without restarting the computer just says that firefox is running and to open a new window but it just says that message no matter what
[02:42] <cairne> is there a task manager type thing like in windows?
[02:42] <WeThePeople> how do i save in GNU nano
[02:42] <yeats> cairne: System Monitor
[02:42] <OerHeks> cairne, open terminal: ctrl + alt + T and type: top
[02:42] <CrawfordComeaux> is it possible to do an unmanned upgrade from lucid LTS to precise LTS?
[02:42] <OerHeks> cairne, or install htop, extended version of top
[02:43] <Yugnoswam_> anyone here ever had issues installing ubuntu with unetbootin and gotten an issue where you cannot select anything and then you get a PAE erorr forcing a manual reboot?
[02:43] <yeats> cairne: System Monitor will do the same things without need for command line (though you can do that too ;-) )
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Have you checked the md5sum of the ISO?
[02:45] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: whats that
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[02:46] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: well.... when I boot up, I first see a black screen with lenovo etc, then a purple blank one, then a purple one with ubuntu text, then login screen.  I want to change two purple ones
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Checks the hash of the download to confirm it is basically intact
[02:46] <Yugnoswam_> ahh
[02:46] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I've successfully changed the login screen with ubuntu tweak
[02:47] <starbuck33> hi everyone, i'm downloading 12.10 and want to backup my current linux data to a windows partition. how sould i do this properly so the rights of the files and directories are saved as well? btw, i don't want to backup thw whole linux partiton, just a few directories
[02:47] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: cheers.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Earlier computers may not be PAE compatible, can we assume this is not a problem as well.
[02:47] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I'm not really sure what "Plymouth" is, but I've read a lot about that
[02:47] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, sorry had to eat dinner when i ran it, it asked me to remove some programs so i ran that
[02:47] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: drop any image you like into /boot/grub/, and that should change the grub screen too.
[02:47] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: its 10 years old...
[02:47] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: and atm my brain is far too frazzled to read up on tutorials >.>
[02:47] <DaemonicApathy> !plymouth
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, I doubt it is PAE compatible.
[02:48] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, when i run it again i have 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 remove, 0 not upgraded
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: I love how grub is smart like that
[02:48] <DaemonicApathy> ActionParsnip: You're not alone. ;-)
[02:48] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, try rebooting to see if it fixed something
[02:48] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: tried that and it didn't work
[02:48] <serban> so i upgraded to ubuntu 12.10.... unity fails to load, i assume because the opengl plugin of compiz fails to load Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, You can do a net install with the mini cd I believe still though, I would wonder if the computer has enough cpu and ram as well.
[02:49] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: a few other options: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/10/grub-splash-image/
[02:49] <bkfitz> when I run update-grub it recognizes the image and says updating background or something, but it doesn't actually work???
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> !pm | Yugnoswam_
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, I don't PM the channel is better for group help. ;)
[02:50] <AndIrc___> hey I just installed 12.10 but now I booted and I didn't boot into the GUI I am in :~$
[02:50] <Yugnoswam_> read what i said, not something to post to a group of a few hundred...
[02:50] <cairne> yeats: thanks so much!
[02:50] <cairne> OerHeks: thanks!
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Then it does not belong in a PM.
[02:50] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I'm not dual booted, so I don't really care about grub actually... I think boot skips right past it and goes straight to Ubuntu (correct me if I'm wrong)
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> AndIrc___: did you install server or desktop?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> serban: what video chip do you use?
[02:51] <JZz> action server
[02:51] <serban> ati radeon 4300
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> JZz: then that's why. That is normal
[02:51] <JZz> what's the cmd to install unity?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> serban: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[02:51] <JZz> apt get unity?
[02:51] <serban> yeah
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> JZz: why did you install server when you want a desktop OS?
[02:52] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, it still takes a long time to get to the login menu and from that to the desktop unity,  but maybe it has to do with this distro? battery/ power management isn't roaring like a bull so there's a fix
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> serban: try uninstalling the driver, rebooting then reinstalling them
[02:52] <JZz> I actually was using it for a server
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> JZz: there is a desktop ISO which has all the desktop stuff
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> JZz: you can install all the serrver services you like on the desktop OS, there is no restriction
[02:53] <serban> i dont know how to do that, i "activated" the drivers using the Additional Drivers thing ( i assume jocket-gtk)
[02:53] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: tried this as well: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[02:53] <bkfitz> with solar plymouth theme
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> JZz: in future, if you want a desktop OS, install one
[02:53] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, and i still get messages that say system program problem detected  that ask me te report but tell me nothing about the problem
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> JZz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <JZz> well since I already burned this one and have no access to another pc
[02:53] <JZz> that's what I was looking for
[02:53] <JZz> I was trying unitydesktop
[02:53] <JZz> wasn't working
[02:54] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Well, I'm a lot more useful with grub than with the boot splash, unfortunately. I do wish you luck.
[02:54] <bkfitz> Here is my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484852
[02:54] <JZz> it says invaild operation ubuntu-desktop
[02:54] <stobix> hm. Is there a simple command for putting the system in suspend/hibernation mode?
[02:54] <bkfitz> :) thx
[02:54] <pepee> serban, the latest catalyst doesn't support old (hd4000 or older) video cards
[02:55] <pepee> serban, this is the correct one:  support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx    BUT it doesn't support the latest X server...
[02:55] <DaemonicApathy> stobix: pm-suspend
[02:55] <stobix> DaemonicApathy: ah. thanks!
[02:56] <qburt> I have a question for IRC, how do I censor my /who? Some people have spoofed User: info
[02:56] <DaemonicApathy> stobix: Any time. It should be noted that Hibernate is disabled by default
[02:56] <vp18> 12.10 is smooth but i got trouble running conky on it.HELP
[02:56] <serban> then why the hell did it let me upgrade?:))
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> qburt, register and cloak up
[02:57] <serban> thanks pepee
[02:57] <syq> how to make an interface don't use the dns from dhcp?
[02:57] <aditya_> use normal in conky insted of default
[02:57] <pepee> serban, sorry, try the open source driver
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> JZz: in future, install the desktop ISO
[02:57] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: found solution on that page: sudo update-initramfs -k all -u
[02:57] <pepee> serban, AFAIK, that's all you have...
[02:58] <pepee> copypasting from #ubuntu+1:  did anyone know that the latest catalyst legacy (12.6) doesn't support X server v1.13?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> !pm > qburt
[02:58] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Awesome. Good on ya. ^_^
[02:59] <qburt> Apologies, Wilee-nilee, how do you mean cloak up? Such as VPN? I read something about Virtual Hosts but cannot figure out how to set it up here. I am using X-Chat on ubuntu 12.04
[03:00] <DaemonicApathy> qburt: Here, you may ask for an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode.
[03:01] <qburt> DaemonicApathy, I joined there, is there a certain thing I have to type in or just ask for it in the #freenode room?
[03:01] <pepee> serban, https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[03:01] <qburt> And how do I direct my text twords you like you guys are doing?
[03:03] <serban> thank you pepee
[03:03] <pepee> yw serban
[03:03] <Guest31516> ola sou novo por aqui
[03:04] <Guest31516> hello I'm new here
[03:05] <dfrey> Is there a known problem with libc6-dev and libc6-i386?
[03:05] <pepee> !br | Guest31516
[03:05] <dfrey> I seem to be having trouble doing an upgrade.  I'm on 12.04
[03:06] <Guest31516> Anyone know realize bootnet
[03:08] <whoever> Jimster480: what did you do, why isn't it installed
[03:08] <whoever> ls
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest31516, welcome to the channel, it works best if you form your problem in the form of a question.
[03:09] <DaemonicApathy> qburt: Just ask, and wait in #freenode. What do you mean about directing?
[03:10] <qburt> You type in my name and your text turns red.
[03:10] <Yugnoswam_> anyone here considered a genius with linux and fancy taking on a really puzzler of an issue?
[03:11] <DaemonicApathy> qburt: That's automatic, for anyone mentioned in a line.
[03:11] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[03:11] <Guest31516> Brazil has someone in the chat
[03:11] <qburt> DaemonicApathy, ohh, lol my bad... New to linux.. and Fairly new to IRC so its gonna be interesting.
[03:12] <DaemonicApathy> No big. :-)
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> faoiseamh: is the ram healthy?
[03:13] <thedoor> My rtl8139c is not working on ubuntu, its get up but dont comunicate with the network, mas anyone can please help me?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> thedoor: does the interface get an IP?
[03:14] <thedoor> Via dhcp nope.
[03:14] <Yugnoswam_> Problem: Trying to install ubuntu 12.10 using unetbootin and a USB drive. The USB drive is healthy, ISO is healthy and everything is up to day. However I get a PAE error and I cannot select any option when I boot from USB Drive on the laptop.
[03:15] <Nautilus> I had a 2nd HD in my system when I installed 12.04, it found those old 10.04 installs and put them in the boot list.  Now that the drive is out I'd like to cleanup the list.  tips?
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> Nautilus, Run sudo update-grub
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: use Xubuntu or Lubuntu, the ISO doesn't use PAE kernel by default
[03:16] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, he does't want use it either
[03:16] <serban> pepee: did that, compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded. Also when i sudo lshw -c video, i dont see any driver= in "configuration:" PASTE: product: RV620 [Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series]... capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0
[03:16] <adoniscik> in Nautilus when I right click on a file, Make a Link is greyed out yet it works. Why is this?
[03:16] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: alexfpms is helping and is on the same page. I dont even have PAE I dont think
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: use what?
[03:17] <alexfpms> is complains about pae
[03:17] <pepee> serban, the PPA website says there is a known error
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: the default ubuntu kernel uses pae, if your cpu doesn't support it then you need a kernel without pae, which is in the Lubuntu and Xubuntu ISOs
[03:17] <alexfpms> i don't remember exactly
[03:17] <JZz> actionparsnip: I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and for some reason once I booted into unity I can't use my keyboard and mouse
[03:17] <pepee> serban, you probably hit it ...
[03:17] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: 1 sec ill get a picture of the error, youll see.
[03:18] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, i didn't know it
[03:18] <Guest31516> can someone teach me sql injection
[03:18] <moondog> just upgraded two machines from 12.04 to 12.10. About as painless as could be.
[03:18] <Nautilus> wilee-nilee: thanks, all done!
[03:18] <moondog> first time I've done a OS upgrade on Linux
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> Nautilus, cool. ;)
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: I've seen it, no need to screen shot
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: you need a different ISO, you can install Unity etc once you get the OS installed if you so desire
[03:19] <trism> ActionParsnip: I think non-pae kernels were dropped completely in 12.10 so lubuntu or xubuntu probably won't help
[03:19] <Yugnoswam_> so i cant use ubuntu?
[03:20] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: its the only linux os ive had any experience with and like the look of...
[03:20] <cortexA9> There is a 13.04 daily ?
[03:20] <Guest31516> ubuntu-br
[03:20] <CrawfordComeaux> Is it possible to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 without upgrading grub?
[03:20] <trism> cortexA9: usually not until after UDS
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> trism: let me check
[03:21] <sasuke> hi guys gud mrng :)
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> CrawfordComeaux, Can you give a hint why this is a problem.
[03:21] <JZz> I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and for some reason once I booted into unity I can't use my keyboard and mouse
[03:21] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: So is there no way of getting ubuntu on my laptop?
[03:21] <xangua> Yugnoswam_: you were already tod how
[03:22] <JZz> I was able to do the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but now I booted into gui and I can't use my keyboard and mouse
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: let me check
[03:22] <xangua> Yugnoswam_: installing xubuntu and luxuntu, and after that install unity/ubuntu-desktop if you wish, is the easiest way
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: you could install precise then immediately upgrade. Its taken out of Quantal. Pae is required: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[03:25] <xeocs> is ethernet board's driver wildcard under server edition? i can't use internet when booted on another machine..
[03:25] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: k. im gunna try xubuntu and hope to hell it works lol
[03:25] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: thats the error if you were interested. Thanks for your help. http://puu.sh/1gjF8
[03:26] <xeocs>  is ethernet board's driver wildcard under server edition? i can't use internet when booted on another machine..thx
[03:27] <JZz> Is there a way to manually install my bluetooth mouse and keyboard? because its not working after I installed ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: Precise is LTS anyway, so is supported past when quantal is EOL
[03:29] <xeocs> jzz, try to plug the receiver in another usb slot
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> JZz: did you install bluez ?
[03:30] <JZz> well after I did apt-get ubuntu-desktop I booted into the gui and now I can't do anything
[03:30] <JZz> I did try pluggin it into a different usb
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> JZz: i suggest you reinstall, using desktop ISO. lots easier
[03:31] <xangua> JZz: reall, as you were told, better install the desktop iso :) it already comes with all you seem to need
[03:31] <xangua> really*
[03:31] <JZz> even with desktop I had issue on 12.04 I had to borrow a usb keyboard and mouse to set it up
[03:32] <carlosthejackal> hello
[03:32] <carlosthejackal> hello world
[03:32] <JZz> trying to avoid borrowing that from someone if I can work around it
[03:32] <indieross> JZz, do you see the bluetooth icon in the notification area
[03:32] <JZz> no I do not
[03:33] <indieross> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:33] <indieross> ...
[03:33] <carlosthejackal> SUDO APT-GET SANDWICH AND SODA
[03:34] <carlosthejackal> its not working :P
[03:34] <indieross> JZz, make sure bluez and gnome-bluetooth are installed
[03:34] <JZz> can't do anything if I can't type or use the mouse
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> carlosthejackal: sudo isn't capitalized, neither is apt-get. Linux is case sensitive ;)
[03:35] <carlosthejackal> :P i know but I just wanted to put it out there
[03:35] <carlosthejackal> sudo apt-get starbucks :P
[03:35] <indieross> JZz, then ur gonna have to borrow a mouse and kb
[03:35] <JZz> yeah unfortunately
[03:36] <JZz> going to have to wait until tomorrow then
[03:36] <indieross> bummer
[03:36] <carlosthejackal> whats wrong jzz
[03:36] <carlosthejackal> ?
[03:36] <indieross> carlosthejackal, scroll up
[03:36] <JZz> can't get bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[03:37] <indieross> JZz, do you have an ssh server runninng?
[03:37] <carlosthejackal> ahh is it a usb keyboard or laptop?
[03:37] <indieross> prolly not if its  a fresh install
[03:37] <JZz> yeah I think so
[03:37] <JZz> I installed openssh
[03:37] <indieross> ssh into it
[03:37] <carlosthejackal> desktop or laptop jzz?
[03:37] <indieross> with ur phone
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> carlosthejackal: starbucks isn't an option of apt-get ;)
[03:37] <JZz> desktop
[03:38] <indieross> carlosthejackal, desktop obviousle
[03:38] <carlosthejackal> ok, is the usb driver installed?
[03:38] <indieross> y
[03:38] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: xUbuntu presented the same error. feature not on cpu: pae
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: yeah, seems they droppped the none pae kernel. You'll have to use Precise
[03:39] <xangua> Yugnoswam_: ActionParsnip what about the minimal iso¿
[03:39] <X-warrior> isn't possible to change menu buttons position on ubuntu 12.10? I tried to install gconf-editor and change button_layout option, but it didn't change anything
[03:39] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: Could I not just get an earlier version of xUbuntu? Or even Ubuntu?
[03:39] <carlosthejackal> your probably going to have to go to the motherboard website and download the USB driver.
[03:39] <indieross> JZz, even after you installed the packages required you still have to use the gui to connect the peripherals
[03:40] <indieross> JZz, so ya might just want to wait until tomorrow to take care of it, remember you're looking for gnome-bluetooth and bluez
[03:40] <carlosthejackal> jzz your keyboard and mouse is plug and play. if your usb driver is not installed properly none of them will work
[03:40] <JZz> yah I'm tryin to ssh
[03:40] <Treaver> !Help, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 alongside Windows 7 and when I boot into Ubuntu it's just the pink screen. Nothing else.
[03:40] <JZz> carlos usb driver don't exist for linux
[03:41] <indieross> Treaver, pink or purple
[03:41] <indieross> ?
[03:41] <JZz> but I think I need to open port on my router
[03:41] <JZz> 22
[03:41] <Treaver> Pink/Putple
[03:41] <indieross> those are different
[03:41] <Treaver> It's the default color of Ubuntu. But like it's overlaying the login screen
[03:41] <Treaver> I can hear the Login Screen start noice. The Dun duh
[03:41] <indieross> Treaver, do a ctrl+alt+f6
[03:42] <Treaver> But I can't see anything but a blank colored screen
[03:42] <Treaver> Then what do I do
[03:42] <indieross> ...
[03:42] <Treaver> I need to know ahead of time so that I can do it after I restart again
[03:42] <indieross> Treaver, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:43] <indieross> Treaver, actually before you do that runs sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[03:43] <indieross> that has the most up to date video drivers
[03:44] <indieross> then run the apt update & dist-upgrade command
[03:44] <indieross> Treaver, ya got dat?
[03:47] <X-warrior> isn't possible to change menu buttons position on ubuntu 12.10? I tried to install gconf-editor and change button_layout option, but it didn't change anything
[03:48] <indieross> Use ubuntu tweak to do that
[03:48] <D4rkH4nd> Did 12.10 come out yet ?
[03:48] <indieross> Yes
[03:48] <invalidopcode> is anyone else having a problem with Pidgin not showing up in the messaging indicator?
[03:48] <D4rkH4nd> shouldnt my update mangr upgrade 12.04 to .10 ?
[03:48] <engkur> D4rkH4nd, im already upgrade last week
[03:49] <D4rkH4nd> how do i do it then ?
[03:50] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: do you have the libnotify addon enabled¿
[03:50] <xangua> invalidopcode: do you have the libnotify addon enabled¿
[03:50] <D4rkH4nd> idk lol im a linux nub
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> D4rkH4nd, Go to software sources and in update tab set it to for any new version.
[03:50] <D4rkH4nd> 12.04 is my first install
[03:50] <invalidopcode> xangua: I believe so
[03:51] <xangua> invalidopcode: you can check in tools-addons
[03:51] <ceed^> Did three perfect 12.04 to 12.10s today. Pretty amazing!
[03:51] <invalidopcode> xangua: its installed and enabled
[03:51] <indieross> D4rkH4nd, http://tinyurl.com/735vu8o
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> D4rkH4nd, software sources is in the edit on the software center
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> in*
[03:52] <D4rkH4nd> okay ty
[03:52] <zontar> i personally recommend clean install when upgrading
[03:52] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: do you really need or want ubuntu 12.10¿ i would stick to the LTS version
[03:53] <indieross> Thats not really necessary if you dont have a bunch of ppas enabled
[03:53] <indieross> A clean install
[03:53] <D4rkH4nd> why not get .10 ?
[03:53] <JZz> indieross able to ssh to it and bluez is installed
[03:53] <zontar> that must've been why my 11.04-11.10 upgrade nuked itself
[03:53] <zontar> i do heavily use ppas
[03:54] <engkur> for desktop, i want bleeding edge sw
[03:54] <xangua> invalidopcode: i read the message indicator now works on demand, did you already add accounts in pidgin¿
[03:54] <engkur> but for server, i wont stable sw
[03:54] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: why do you need it¿ want it¿
[03:54] <invalidopcode> xangua: I do.  I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10, and it stopped showing up in the message indicator
[03:55] <ThR3X> //
[03:55] <D4rkH4nd> umm, its the new version lol
[03:55] <ThR3X> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[03:55] <ThR3X> ok brb
[03:55] <D4rkH4nd> Is there a reasone to not upgrade ?
[03:57] <D4rkH4nd> xangua: is there a reason to NOT upgrade ?
[03:58] <Samizdata> Any chance someone might be able to help me figure out why I can't get a Quantic clean install to boot on an Aspire One D270?
[03:58] <FlyingElvis> i just upgraded  :)
[03:58] <invalidopcode> is there a way to reset the webapp configuration?
[03:58] <D4rkH4nd> Is unity a part of 12.10 ?
[03:58] <Samizdata> Well, I upgraded two boxen today.  Neither one works.  At all.
[03:58] <invalidopcode> because I had the webapp preview at one point and I have a feeling its messing with stuff after the upgrade
[03:58] <FlyingElvis> yes D4rkH4nd
[03:58] <obtrusivemouse> D4rkH4nd, because it's in beta and not necessarily stable?
[03:58] <FlyingElvis> Samizdata, i had issues also..and this is how i fixed it
[03:58] <D4rkH4nd> Okay gotch ya then i will wait
[03:59] <invalidopcode> obtrusivemouse: 12.10 is out of beta
[03:59] <Samizdata> Hit me, Elvis.
[03:59] <FlyingElvis> i tried to install 12.10 clean install...it didnt work...so i clean install 12.04...updated it fully, and did the 12.04>12.10 upgrade...worked then
[04:00] <obtrusivemouse> can someone name me a channel on irc for discussing developing webapps/ apps/ extensions ?
[04:00] <Samizdata> No go on that.  It was running 12.04 fine, then the upgrade mangled it, so I did a clean install.
[04:01] <FlyingElvis> ahhh   then im lost then...my prob had to do with the video card
[04:01] <Samizdata> Really majorly unhappy with Ubuntu right now.  It's an Intel 3000HD video.
[04:02] <Samizdata> So, as it seems now, I am batting 2 for 2 on useless machines right now.
[04:03] <Samizdata> This, FWIW, is completely ridiculous.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: have you reported bugs?
[04:03] <Samizdata> Not sure how I can as I can NOT boot either box.
[04:04] <bulletrulz> why cload ubuntu?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: do you get no desktop at all?
[04:04] <Samizdata> The Aspire One - No.  The desktop - Yes, but nothing else.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: if you press CTRL+ALT+T do you get a desktop?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: have you tried a different desktop environment like Xfce?
[04:05] <Samizdata> Well, kind of hard to do when you can't get anything to work.
[04:05] <carlosthejackal> what are the popular irc channels?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: does a terminal run when you press CTRL+ALT+T?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> carlosthejackal: I'd ask in #freenode
[04:06] <Samizdata> Well, the netbook locks during boot.  I will have to try that one the desktop (not this machine_/
[04:06] <obtrusivemouse> also, why is  ubuntu the only open source distro that is commercializing?
[04:07] <Samizdata> The netbook stops at Stopping save kernal messages.
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: can also press CTRL+ALT+F1 and drop to TTY1 (no desktop) and run stuff
[04:07] <bulletrulz> Obtru cause it is the most popular
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: tried adding the boot option: nomodeset
[04:07] <Samizdata> Well, I will try on the desktop.  But, I will admit, my netbook was the highest priority.
[04:08] <obtrusivemouse> meh, i kinda wished to see at least fedora or debian take the same path, without much community involvement, not much development either
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> obtrusivemouse: distribution choice, there is nothing stopping the others from doing the same
[04:10] <obtrusivemouse> ActionParsnip, yeah but it seems that the only reason why ubuntu is going forward is because the devs are now taking it as a fulltime job and it's paid with all those donations, shops, advertising
[04:10] <invalidopcode> lovely... the pidgin indicator work wasn't finished before release....
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> invalidopcode: want a consolation prize?
[04:12] <invalidopcode> ActionParsnip: yes, please :)
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> invalidopcode: there is a PPA to move accounts into the gnome keyring
[04:12] <invalidopcode> oh really now?
[04:12] <Samizdata> Nope.  nomodeset apparently just makes it lock up earlier.
[04:12] <xangua> (23:06:54) obtrusivemouse: also, why is  ubuntu the only open source distro that is commercializing? - there is nowhere written that you can't ;)
[04:12] <bulletrulz> ActionParsnip, to be honest it is ubuntu u guys have money
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> invalidopcode: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-gnome-keyring/+archive/ppa
[04:13] <invalidopcode> ah cool
[04:13] <noiro> I wish #! had a bit more funding. That was a great distro
[04:13] <xangua> ActionParsnip: so you need to use the keyring for pidgin to add to the message indicator¿
[04:13] <invalidopcode> ActionParsnip: I think I'm going to look into the indicator plugin. its not assigned to anyone, so I might be able to fix it
[04:14] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, well it's not like i can walk up to debian.org and ask them to make a massive overhaul to their website, their development process
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: other distros can do the same :)
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> xangua: no, it just puts the accounts in the keyring rather than plaintext in ~/.purple (stored passwords an all)
[04:15] <Samizdata> This is freaking ridiculous.  And, on the subject of funding and Ubuntu, I am afraid to say I didn't donate when I downloaded it (out of money until next week), but now I have no regrets at all.
[04:15] <xangua> ActionParsnip: mm didn't knew that addon had a ppa, sodo you know how to add pidgin in the message indicator for the new release¿
[04:16] <rmathews> Hi.  Lots of online docs seem to refer to a « /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.multiple-instances » ... but I it isn't present on my Ubuntu 10.04 (apache2-mpm-worker, installed) .. any idea where it is instead?
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> xangua: not sure. I've noticed its not present myself but personaly I don't use it
[04:16] <Samizdata> What is especially frustrating is it will boot from a stick, but not the hard drive.
[04:18] <Respite212> Hi, how do I start and close a script that I have?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> Respite212: run them in a terminal, you can stop them as you need
[04:19] <Respite212> ActionParsnip: I mean what is the COMMAND to start the script?
[04:19] <Dragonster82> Anyone have any problems here? I might be able to help.
[04:20] <invalidopcode> Dragonster82: wanna help port the pidgin libnotify applet to the new indicator architecture? :)
[04:20] <DaemonicApathy> Respite212: By default, you can double-click on the script itself in the file manager, or from a terminal, "your/directory/here/yourScript".
[04:21] <hazeman> ActionParsnip: Make them executable (see chmod) and the simply enter the name of the script
[04:21] <Samizdata> I would be happy if I could get the new architecture even working over here.
[04:21] <SpaceAviator> I cant find jockey anywhere. How do I install AMD drivers???
[04:21] <DaemonicApathy> hazeman: Good point, I always forget about the executable bit. Reflexes...
[04:22] <darkowlzz> SpaceAviator: sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[04:22] <Thete> Is there a way to update 12.04 to 12.10 through apt?
[04:22] <Samizdata> Check under Software Sources.
[04:22] <SpaceAviator> darkowlzz: is that the standard way now?
[04:23] <Samizdata> I had to use it to confirm I could get my Nvidia working on the one machine that was actually FUNCTIONAL under Quantic.  And that took some hacking.
[04:23] <Samizdata> Had to say it, but this is the WORST Ubuntu release EVER.
[04:23] <grizlo42> Is it unreasonable to ask that ubuntu has updated arduino dev packages?
[04:23] <darkowlzz> SpaceAviator: I guess so, some folks were discussing about it about 10 hours back and I tried it in a friend's computer and it worked
[04:23] <Dragonster82> invaliddopcode Nope, haha.
[04:23] <grizlo42> Who do I need to talk to in order to get new packages into the mainstream ubuntu repos?
[04:23] <xangua> Thete: software center-edit-sources-update tab- enable normal distro upgrades
[04:23] <Thete> Ahh, cool, thank you
[04:24] <black_blood> ubuntu noob here quick question i installed ubuntu 12.04 but i want to switch to kubuntu wich is better to run a fresh install or installing a new enviroment over it?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> black_blood, You can just install the kubuntu desktop.
[04:25] <SpaceAviator> darkowlzz: found the official way. goto software sources and then additional drivers tab
[04:25] <Samizdata> Just what I mentioned.
[04:25] <xangua> black_blood: you can install kubuntu-desktop and get rid of all the gnome stuff after, or simply do a clean install
[04:25] <xangua> !purekde
[04:25] <invalidopcode> is there an easy way to "checkout" a PPA to build it?
[04:25] <darkowlzz> SpaceAviator: cool!!
[04:26] <black_blood> thanks very much
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> black_blood, This link will give you a way of removing the ubuntu desktop if that is important. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> xangua, Missed the purekde link DOH.
[04:28] <black_blood> wilee-nilee thanks very much its exactly what i needed
[04:28] <bulletrulz> !purelxde
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> Samizdata, Please keep going while I look for my worlds tiniest violin.
[04:29] <miguel_> does vmware workstation 9 install in ubuntu with out a patch?
[04:29] <bulletrulz> !puregnome
[04:29] <teamcolt_> Maybe this is a really dumb question: how do you start a script that it's another directory without it "applying" to the directory you are in. For instance I have "git commit" in a bash file in my scripts directory but I want to execute it while my pwd is ~/ if I type "/scripts/myscript/commit" it will say "you have no git repo in the ~/ directory"
[04:29] <ekaj> Is a ubuntu comp going to flip out if I unplug a VGA monitor? It won't crash, will it?
[04:29] <Warbrain> no
[04:29] <bulletrulz> ekaj, no
[04:29] <Guest96708> hello! I am preparing installation to dual boot with *BSD, can you give me accurate partitioning schema ? please, don't give your opinions but exact answer. im tired really
[04:30] <ekaj> Okie.. thank you
[04:30] <bjrohan> Hey Yo, When setting up rscyn over ssh, how do I include the user password for the destination account so it doesn't ask me for it everytime?
[04:30] <Guest96708> I will need one primary partition for *BSD, but don't know about ubuntu installer
[04:31] <hazeman> teamcolt: A script is a command like any other. When you try to execute a command the system searches the directories in your $PATH and executes the first command with the right name that it finds.
[04:31] <Guest96708> it's 12.04 here, waiting to fresh install, any help would appreaciated
[04:32] <Guest96708> im on live cd right now
[04:32] <Guest96708> so guys how should I add partitions, in which sequence?
[04:33] <Samizdata> Well, trying one more clean install, then I am giving up on Ubuntu.  I guess I will try OpenSuse Plasma Netbook.  Have to peel the sticker off my Super key too.
[04:33] <Dragonster82> Samizdata , I have no idea why Ubuntu isn't working for you.
[04:34] <Guest96708> I am preparing installation to dual boot with *BSD, can you give me accurate partitioning schema?
[04:34] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata - seems a bit extreme to me. Personally, I'm just sticking with 12.04
[04:35] <loquitus> Anybody here know why my svn commit on a branch somehow ended up going onto the trunk?
[04:35] <Samizdata> Not so much.  Stick with an OS that won't work and has rendered 2 machines useless to me?  I suspect that's not so drastic.  Even the working install seems to be having errors everywhere.
[04:35] <DaemonicApathy> Guest96708: You could just make a partition of whatever size you like, ext4, and install Ubuntu on that.
[04:36] <Guest96708> DaemonicApathy: only one partition?
[04:36] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata: 12.04 wasn't working for you either? I was under the impression that 12.10 was your problem.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: have you tried Precise?
[04:37] <DaemonicApathy> Guest96708: I'm assuming you already have a bootloader, so the only reason for more than one partition would be if you wanted to assign a swap partition as well.
[04:37] <Samizdata> Yup.  Precise worked on both the machines previously.
[04:37] <DaemonicApathy> Precise = 12.04
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: thnen why not reinstall with that?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: Precise is LTS so will mean it is support long after Quantal is EOL
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: and even Ringtail
[04:38] <DaemonicApathy> ActionParsnip, is Ringtail 10.04?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: Ringtail is 13.04
[04:38] <hoban> Hello, I've got a T430s laptop with 12.10 final installed; I can't get sound working. I have adjusted settings with the gui tool as well as using alsamixer. Can someone assist please?
[04:38] <DaemonicApathy> Oh, duh...R...
[04:38] <Samizdata> I may, but I am having some faith issues with Ubuntu.  I was really hoping the possibility of the inclusion of llvmpipe would make my life nicer.
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: ;)
[04:39] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, ActionParsnip.   Thus, I suspect I might be moving on from Ubuntu.  I am clueless how this made it through beta.  And, with the hibernation bug...
[04:40] <Mneumonic> Samizdata sorry just started paying attention?  Issues with 12.10?
[04:41] <DaemonicApathy> Hibernation bug?
[04:41] <Samizdata> Amazing issues with 12.10.
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: did you upgrade or did you clean install Quantal?
[04:41] <Samizdata> When Precise neglected to enable hibernation?
[04:41] <Samizdata> Both.
[04:42] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata: That wasn't a bug, it's the default setting, due to some systems having issues with it, iirc.
[04:42] <Mneumonic> I HAVE noticed 2 issues with 12.10.  Enabling the experimental Nvidia driver breaks the desktop and Vmware player simply doesn't work.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: I see, I've had zero success with upgrades so always clean install personally. Why turn your back on Ubuntu when Precise works. Makes no sense
[04:42] <Samizdata> Upgraded both boxes, trying the second clean install on the netbook.
[04:42] <Samizdata> Because what do I do when LTS expires and the new LTS is a dog's breakfast?
[04:42] <DaemonicApathy> 12.10 is not LTS.
[04:43] <JZz> sooo
[04:43] <serban> how do i downgrade:))))
[04:43] <JZz> actionparsnip
[04:43] <Samizdata> I know 12.10 isn't.  It just seems like each release I use of Ubuntu gets dodgier and dodgier...
[04:43] <bazhang> serban, reinstall
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> serban: clean install
[04:43] <JZz> I was able to fix it manually but what a bitch
[04:43] <DaemonicApathy> serban: backup data, clean install of previous version
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: thats still 5 years in the future....
[04:44] <Mneumonic> Precise is flawless, I am probably sticking to it for atleast another 6 months
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata: I just mean that it's a poor indicator of how the next LTS will be.
[04:44] <zykotick9> what is the "official" aka easiest, method for current 12.04 LTS users to upgrade to 12.10?  i'd like to know the simplest cli/file method if possible.
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> Same, Mneumonic.
[04:44] <JZz> I had to edit 97-bluetooth-hid2hci.rules hiddev to hidraw
[04:44]  * Samizdata shrugs.  All I can do is look at history.
[04:44] <Mneumonic> Especially since you can enable the experimental Nvidia driver in 12.04.  It is perfect now
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> JZz: gotcha. You could report a bug with your fix :)
[04:44] <JZz> so its working as of right now but I don't have the bluetooth icon
[04:44] <bazhang> Samizdata, lets move on from the editorializing please
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> JZz: share the knowledge
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9, enable distribution upgrades in the System Settings?
[04:44]  * bulletrulz wants ubuntu to stop messing with unity and use gnome 2
[04:45] <hoban> lots of trolls out tonight
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: gnome2 is dead upstream so it won't be used
[04:45] <bazhang> bulletrulz, install gnome-panel then
[04:45] <DaemonicApathy> Gnome 2? What's wronge with Gnome 3?
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: if you like the Gnome2 smell and want something fully supported, use xfce
[04:45] <bulletrulz> ubuntu should go back to the best gnome 2
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: didn't say anything was wrong with it
[04:45] <bazhang> !ot | bulletrulz
[04:45] <serban> how do I set metacity as my default win manager?
[04:45] <Samizdata> Well, we will see what happens with clean install 2 then.  I do not understand how it can run fine from a stick then go sideways from a hard drive.
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: the gnome team have dropped it and are focussing on gnome3
[04:46] <DaemonicApathy> Meant for bulletrulz, ActionParsnip. I forgot to direct.
[04:46] <bulletrulz> bazhang, dude dont say that to mee everyone us doing it too
[04:46] <engkur> zykotick9, this command "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[04:46] <Andre_designer> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> serban: you can add a startup app to run:  metacity --replace
[04:46] <bazhang> bulletrulz, lets move on. gnome-panel for the classic look. there is NO gnome2
[04:46] <hoban> Hello, I've got a T430s laptop with 12.10 final installed; I can't get sound working. I have adjusted settings with the gui tool as well as using alsamixer. Can someone assist please?
[04:47] <zykotick9> engkur: lts should upgrade to non-lts 12.10 versions by default.  something MUST be changed first.
[04:47] <zykotick9> s/should/shouldn't/
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> hoban: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[04:47] <bulletrulz> well unity is so slow thats y i moved to lubuntu
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: lubuntu is sweeeet
[04:48] <bulletrulz> yeah i engoy it but i miss my gnome 2
[04:48] <Mneumonic> bulletrulz use Xubuntu
[04:48] <Mneumonic> XFCE is now like 99% of what gnome 2 was
[04:49] <bulletrulz> D: R.I.P Gnome 2 and xubuntu is not a replace ment
[04:49] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9: Update Manager > settings > Updates > bottom "notify..."
[04:49] <DaemonicApathy> Then update.
[04:49] <Mneumonic> sorry but you are trolling now.
[04:49] <bulletrulz> i dont like xubuntu not as lightwhight as gnome 2 Was
[04:49] <bazhang> bulletrulz, enough
[04:49] <zykotick9> Mneumonic: 99% i don't think so ... ;)  </OT>
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: why, its coded using gtk....
[04:49] <Andre_designer> bulletrutz: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[04:50] <Flynsarmy> ubuntu with unity isn't too bad once you rip out all the parts of unity it's possible to get rid of. almost the same as gnome 2 but with a lousy run menu
[04:50] <engkur> zykotick9, check file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, Prompt=normal, or lts
[04:50] <zykotick9> Mneumonic: gnome3-classic/fallback is only 95% gnome2 ;)
[04:50] <hoban> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288505/
[04:50] <zykotick9> engkur: that "sounds" a lot better!  i can't confirm myself.
[04:51] <bulletrulz> ActionParsnip, IT Just doesent give me that spark gnome 2 did
[04:51] <bulletrulz> dude?
[04:51] <bulletrulz> abusing power much
[04:52] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic bulletrulz NOT here
[04:52] <DaemonicApathy> He did ask you to stop.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: never had a spark from a DE
[04:52] <sdollins> I don't have much information but my fiancé is trying to install 12.10 and he can't get into a GUI. His monitor says "input not supported". It worked fine with 12.04.
[04:52] <bulletrulz> bazhang, IKNOW but no body needs support right now and i was just talking to ActionParsnip
[04:52] <Mneumonic> Bulletrulz, there is always Windows 8!  I hear good things
[04:52] <sdollins> he can change to another tty though.
[04:53] <hoban> ActionParsnip, that's a lot of info; does anything jump out to you?
[04:53] <Samizdata> HAHAHAHAHAHA!  That was a good laugh. Mneumonic.  Cheers.
[04:53] <zykotick9> ok, ignoring terminal requirements.  what is the easiest way for 12.04 LTS users to upgrade to 12.10?
[04:53] <Mneumonic> :)
[04:53] <RobbyF> zykotick9, update manager
[04:53] <amin> ciao
[04:53] <amin> !list
[04:53] <Samizdata> Zyk - I wouldn't recommend it right now?
[04:53] <DaemonicApathy> sdollins: has he tried "sudo startx"?
[04:53] <kenneth__> hey guys
[04:53] <kenneth__> i'm having some issues
[04:53] <MarconM> how i change shell for zsh on ubuntu
[04:53] <zykotick9> RobbyF: does it offer it by default?
[04:53] <kenneth__> with openvpn
[04:54] <sdollins> DaemonicApathy: i told him to try that. one second
[04:54] <zykotick9> RobbyF: are you "sure"?
[04:54] <RobbyF> zykotick9, you may need to change setting within it to upgrade only from LTS to any new releases
[04:54] <kenneth__> I was able to connect but I can't ping gateway in my openvpn client
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> hoban: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[04:54] <hoban> ActionParsnip, also, thanks! :)
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> hoban: reboot to test
[04:55] <hoban> ActionParsnip, will do, I'll be back if I still have issues. If I don't come back, thanks!
[04:55] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys
[04:55] <Samizdata> Well, here we go.  Clean install 2.
[04:55] <Shazer[2]> When I boot my computer, it trys to boot from my 1TB HDD, instead of my SSD...
[04:56] <Flynsarmy> Shazer[2]: check your bios boot order
[04:56] <bkc_> Shazer[2]: change the boot order in the bios
[04:56] <Shazer[2]> However, in my BIOS my SSD doesn't exist to set it as a priority
[04:56] <sdollins> DaemonicApathy: still says input not supported
[04:56] <Shazer[2]> But if I continually press F8 on boot I can select it, but that's so much hassle
[04:56] <Samizdata> And, I've got nothing.
[04:56] <Shazer[2]> If I wanna boot then walk away, when I come back it won't be booted it'll be ticking away trying to boot from HDD
[04:57] <awolf> aigh, please help: yesterday things worked fine (and for months), but now I have no internet working! I tried wired and wireless, the wifi connection is fine but no signal gets through
[04:57] <sdollins> He's using internal graphics on an ivy bridge CPU.
[04:57] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], what hd do you want to boot to?
[04:57] <awolf> How can I figure out if an update broke things vs I have some bad setting file?
[04:58] <Shazer[2]> WeThePeople: I want to boot from my SSD of course.
[04:58] <zykotick9> awolf: which happened first ;)  best of luck.
[04:58] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], type lshw in terminal and paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:59] <awolf> Well, I don't know what happened
[04:59] <awolf> I'm trying to troubleshoot
[04:59] <hoban> ActionParsnip, worked, thanks! Do you happen to know how to reset alsa sound values to default? sound is working, but raspy and overblown
[04:59] <hoban> (even at mid volumes)
[04:59] <awolf> Maybe DNS, maybe something… I'm just guessing
[04:59] <Samizdata> Well, have fun you all, especially those considering an update.  I am off to learn OpenSuse.
[04:59] <zykotick9> awolf: move your home directory settings to a new file/folder name.  see if probliem persists.
[04:59] <Shazer[2]> WeThePeople:
[04:59] <bjrohan> I need help with ssh and setting up keys for passwordless login
[04:59] <Shazer[2]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288514/
[04:59] <awolf> OK
[04:59] <awolf> Thanks
[05:00] <zykotick9> awolf: netork/dns might not be in your home folder...
[05:00] <awolf> ok
[05:00] <awolf> Um, what does a good DNS look like?
[05:01] <bkc_> awolf: <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:01] <awolf> Ok, let me be more clear: if one day all of a sudden no pinging or network works although wifi is on and works on other computers…
[05:01] <hoban> ActionParsnip, nevermind, I adjusted a few things and now it's fine. Thanks again!
[05:01] <bjrohan> I have set up SSH, worked fine, in trying to get rsync to work on its own passwordless I followed steps to create an ssh key, moved that key to the remote, now when I try to log in it asks for my key/password, It won't accept my password :-(
[05:01] <awolf> what's the first thing to check?
[05:01] <bjrohan> which it shouldn't ask for anyway
[05:01] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], looks like linux doesnt detect ssd
[05:01] <bkc_> awolf: routing & trace
[05:02] <bjrohan> any clues where I went wrong?
[05:02] <awolf> ok, how do I check those?
[05:02] <zykotick9> awolf: "personally" i wouldn't recommend use Google's DNS if you have an option... but that's just me.
[05:02] <Shazer[2]> God damn.
[05:03] <Shazer[2]> Is there a way to rectify, WeThePeople
[05:03] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], hold on im looking
[05:03] <Shazer[2]> WeThePeople, can we do it via PM?
[05:03] <bjrohan> Anyone have anything I can try?
[05:04] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], sure
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> ty please pm me
[05:04] <d3m0nk> 12.10 updates screwed up the video playback... anybody had this issue? known fix?
[05:05] <d3m0nk> I tried reinstalling the gstreamer plugins, vlc etc.
[05:05] <bjrohan> same here d3m0nk ever since beta
[05:05] <d3m0nk> bjrohan, no fix? :(
[05:05] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: what player?  have you changed your VO output from XV to something else?  (common blue tint issue)
[05:06] <bjrohan> Not that I have seen. I try to install ffmpeg, issues traced back to libx264-100 being requested when i have -123 installed
[05:06] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, yeh I did the blue tint fix... applied patch for libvpau or something I remember sometime back...
[05:06] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: fyi gstreamer probably defaults to XV
[05:06] <bjrohan> what is xv?
[05:07] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, hmm checking...
[05:08] <bjrohan> Anyone here knowledgeable about ssh and keys?
[05:08] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, I had it set to OpenGL / XCB
[05:08] <d3m0nk> changed to XV and still won't work
[05:09] <d3m0nk> some videos play okay... like .mov etc...
[05:09] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: ;) i would have expected opengl TO work, and XV NOT to work ;)  sorry i don't have any further suggestions.  good luck.
[05:10] <d3m0nk> Movie Player (default Player and UMPlayer) say "stream contains no data" etc.
[05:10] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: that sounds like a possible codec issue.  try "mplayer".
[05:11] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, yeah codec issue is the likeliest... but I've installed and updated all of em :(
[05:11] <d3m0nk> gstream, the good, the bad and the ugly ;)
[05:11] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], i pmed you.. if you are interested in figuring this out, let me know
[05:12] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: do you use mplayer with medibuntu's w32-something or w64-something?  that's a real test ;)
[05:12] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, nop dude.. btw I use gnome UI & lxde...
[05:13] <d3m0nk> I'm too slow and dumb to understand unity
[05:13] <DaemonicApathy> turns out I had a connection issue. zykotick9, did you get my last messages, or your answer for upgrading?
[05:15] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], see #hardware
[05:15] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: i believe everyone should choose the DE/WM they want to work in.  then choose a gnu/linux distro that enables that selection (FYI ubuntu from mini (see "/msg ubottu mini" for details) can allow you to select NO DE/WM by default.  so just a "naked" ubuntu - install ONLY what you want from "sudo apt-get install foo" ;)
[05:16] <bjrohan> Many have joined, anyone offer help on ssh login via keys vs password so I can rsync automagically? I messed up and now can not log in via ssh commandline
[05:17] <Mr__> anyone good with crons?
[05:18] <DaemonicApathy> !anyone | Mr__
[05:18] <sdollins> Why would Ubuntu use an unsupported refresh rate?
[05:19] <KM0201> bjrohan: you might get a better answer to that question in #ubuntu-server    i'm not sure on that one.. i always use password
[05:19] <sdollins> DaemonicApathy: We still can't get a GUI to work. :(
[05:19] <bjrohan> Thank you!
[05:19] <DaemonicApathy> sdollins: How was it installed?
[05:19] <zykotick9> sdollins: what video card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if unsure.
[05:20] <sdollins> He installed it via command line but he also can't get a live cd to work.
[05:20] <sdollins> He using intel integrated graphics
[05:20] <Mr__> i am trying to setup a cron to run a terminal command
[05:20] <sdollins> He has the i7-3370S
[05:21] <DaemonicApathy> I'm betting it's an HP.
[05:21] <sdollins> He built it himself.
[05:21] <sdollins> 12.04 worked fine.
[05:21] <elmux> Mr__ you can look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[05:22] <Grecoo> people, im going to install 12.10, but i dont know if i should install 32 o 64 bits
[05:22] <sdollins> His monitor is an Acer
[05:22] <sdollins> Grecoo: is your computer newish?
[05:22] <DaemonicApathy> sdollins: The only other options I can suggest are to reinstall 12.04 and update with the update manager, or just stick with 12.04, since support will go for a long time.
[05:22] <Grecoo> yep, a amd fx6100
[05:22] <Grecoo> 4gb rma
[05:22] <Grecoo> ram
[05:22] <sdollins> you could probably use 64 bit then
[05:23] <zykotick9> Grecoo: with 4GB of RAM you are totally boarderline!  i'd personally suggest you go 32bit.
[05:23] <DaemonicApathy> I have to agree with zykotick9. When in doubt, 32bit can be more stable.
[05:24] <Grecoo> yes, im thinking about buy some ram
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: what is the system used for?
[05:24] <Grecoo> but its ok at the moment
[05:24] <Grecoo> m..
[05:24] <zykotick9> Grecoo: if you plan on upgrading your RAM, use 64bit!
[05:24] <Grecoo> im planning to upgrade, but not in the next 6 monts
[05:25] <Grecoo> well, when i have the money :p
[05:25] <zykotick9> Grecoo: upgrading from 32bit->64bit requires a reinstall of ubuntu OS...
[05:25]  * thrasher194 updates to 12.10
[05:26] <Grecoo> oh, yes, wathever, im not going to upgrade, i have a /home and a / partition
[05:27] <elmux> Is the 32 Bit Installation more stable then the 64 Bit installation ?
[05:27] <Grecoo> the system is used for... internet, music, some movies, game, matlab sometimes
[05:27] <zykotick9> elmux: amd64 is a more stable verion then i686 - on ubuntu - i have no idea.
[05:28] <Jimster480-Lapto> k
[05:28] <Grecoo> the problem is that 12.04 64 bits is slower than i expeted
[05:29] <Grecoo> i have windows 7 too, and well, its faster than ubuntu
[05:29] <Grecoo> :/
[05:29] <zykotick9> Grecoo: unless you have 4+GB or RAM 64bit will "probably" be a detrement to performance, but it's still probably technically superior ;)
[05:29] <KM0201> Grecoo: i dunno, i have win 7 to on the same machine, and it doesn't even compare.
[05:30] <zykotick9> Grecoo: "windows 7 too" best of luck.
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: speed depends on config
[05:30]  * DaemonicApathy moved to an SSD without Windows.
[05:30] <Jimster480-Lapto> yea I have windows 7 also
[05:31] <Jimster480-Lapto> and 64 bit is faster always not just with large ram
[05:31] <uuu84> does anybody know where the export command is stored?
[05:31] <Grecoo> sorry, my english is not the best
[05:31] <blackshirt> grecoo, i think yes, ubuntu was too bloated with "artistical" things .... but,tehnically, windows was bad compared to unix
[05:31] <zykotick9> uuu84: if you mean bash-export.  i doubt it is stored... good luck.
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> uuu84: it is stored in a variable for that session
[05:33] <zykotick9> uuu84: ActionParsnip ftw ;)
[05:33] <Grecoo> blackshirt, right, ubuntu consumes a lot
[05:33] <Grecoo> long life to 10.04
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: desktop 10.04 dies in April 2013
[05:34] <Grecoo> yea....:(
[05:34] <DaemonicApathy> Grecoo, I solved this by disabling Unity, running Cairo-dock, and never looking back.
[05:34] <Grecoo> very sad
[05:34] <Jimster480-Lapto> ubuntu is quite slower than windows 7 in some aspects, this is the truth
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: you can install lxde and it will use fewer resources than most OSes
[05:34] <Jimster480-Lapto> but in other things it is fsater
[05:35]  * zykotick9 notes, that any WM is lighter then any DE
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: compiz is lighter then razorqt?
[05:35] <Jimster480-Lapto> remember that light doesnt always mean fast
[05:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: you can't run compiz (the wm) by itself, other WM you can.
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: you can run compiz on its own
[05:36] <Grecoo> i was not sure if 32 o 64 bits because of the processor, its has the same performance in 32 o 64 bits?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-gpIKG6RX4
[05:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: while i 100% agree with you, compiz is a WM.  i don't consider compiz a WM ;)
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: course it is, it draws and manages the Windows. Its a WM
[05:37] <Jimster480-Lapto> 64 bit is usually faster
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: with a little tweaking (making a new session for lightdm) you can run compiz without a DE
[05:38] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: most people can't run "compiz" by itself.  openbox/fluxbox/awesome/etc are WM that you can run by themselves, without a DE.
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: they can, they just need to make a session
[05:38] <awolf> what's the correct permissions settings for my home directory?
[05:39] <awolf> I messed them up
[05:39] <grizlo42> if i have a deb package, is there a way to tell apt-get to install all its deps?
[05:39] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: compiz is HIGH cpu usage, all other WM are not...???
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: that doesn't mean it cannot run on it's own just like openbox etc
[05:40] <Grecoo> ok, ill download 32 bits
[05:40] <Grecoo> thanks guys
[05:40] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: honestly, i'm finding it difficult to even picture compiz without nautils, or any other WM...  but i guess, because you are saying it, that's it's possible - and i'm wrong.  my bad.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: you can run nautilus. You will simply need to add the --no-desktop option
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: or, what I do, use pcmanfm and tell nautilus to not  draw desktop icons, makes a snappier OS
[05:42] <snowrichard> i have a usb wireless network card.  I started dist upgrade, and it has downloaded all the packages, but keyboard and mouse are not responding.  Hopefully it will finish installing the packages and reboot on its own.
[05:43] <snowrichard> i can ssh in though
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> snowrichard: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 are you able to type there (does the shortcut do anything)?
[05:43] <snowrichard> is there a command to restart the usb for keyboard and mouse
[05:44] <snowrichard> doesn't bring up a new terminal no
[05:44] <awolf> please anyone: what is the normal permissions for home directory?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> awolf: 644 I believe
[05:44] <uuu84> when i run chroot /mnt/ export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive i get the following error: chroot: failed to run command `export': No such file or directory. anybody know how to fix that?
[05:45] <grizlo42> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:45] <grizlo42> any ideas?
[05:46] <bazhang> !gpgerr | grizlo42
[05:46] <grizlo42> ugh. hmmmmm i wonder what the keyword is
[05:46] <elisa87> How can I install Facebook Andoid sdk on Ubuntu?
[05:47] <Guest96708> which one to choose primary/logical partition for /boot, root and swap?
[05:47] <snowrichard> developer.android.com has good direction on the android sdk install. You will need Java and the Eclipse IDE
[05:47] <hateball> Guest96708: Primary/Logical doesnt really matter. If you have more than 4 partitions you need logical ones
[05:48] <snowrichard> sorry i don't know about face book sdk
[05:48] <Guest96708> hateball: good then, i choose logical, but that is the difference?
[05:48] <grizlo42> bazhang: that key didn't work...
[05:48] <grizlo42> gpg: "437D05B" not a key ID: skipping
[05:48] <grizlo42> lolnvm
[05:48] <hateball> Guest96708: It's just a limitation of BIOS. It has no impact on your system otherwise
[05:49] <Guest96708> hateball: sorry but if there were no difference then why would they put that choice?
[05:50] <hateball> Guest96708: You're doing manual partitioning, that assumes you know what you're doing. If you just let the wizard do it there's no such choice
[05:50] <Guest96708> hateball: i'll install another OS which deserves primary partition, and it's issues with bootloader
[05:52] <zykotick9> awolf: fyi, ubuntu unlike some other ditros leaves /home/foo directories with READ permission for OTHER.  some people don't appreicate this default.
[05:52] <bluefalcon> Anyone have much experience with reaver on ubuntu?
[05:52] <elisa87> snowrichard is that version of Android SDK different from the version Facebook Developer has provided?
[05:53] <awolf> ok, I really got my home directory messed up
[05:53] <awolf> I need help
[05:54] <Guest96708> i got it, thank you for response
[05:55] <awolf> oh fuck now I try to go to my home directory in console and it says -bash cd: aaron: Permission denied!
[05:55] <bazhang> awolf, no cursing here
[05:56] <awolf> sorry
[05:56] <awolf> ok sorry, I know tons of people pop up here frustrated
[05:56] <awolf> I will be very grateful for help
[05:57] <awolf> How do I change my home folder permissions so I can get it working again?
[05:57] <grizlo42> if i have a local .deb package that has unmet dependencies, how do i install them?
[05:57] <KM0201> awolf: you'll probably have to boot recovery mode and do it via command line.
[05:57] <awolf> I'm in command line
[05:58] <awolf> KM0201: what command gets my home folder permissions back?
[05:59] <KM0201> awolf: i'm really not sure.
[05:59] <snowrichard> did you change the owner of your home directory or just the permissions
[05:59] <awolf> I think just the permissions
[05:59] <snowrichard> ls -l /home/user would tell you
[05:59] <snowrichard> if your account was user
[05:59] <visof> hello
[06:00] <Guest96708> hateball: should I create on primary extended partition and add /boot, /, swap over there into slices?
[06:00] <awolf> ls: cannot access home/aaron/aaron: Permission denied
[06:00] <awolf> !!
[06:01] <awolf> I should do it with sudo maybe?
[06:01] <KM0201> awolf: you have to do it from recovery... i don't think that requires sudo.
[06:01] <hateball> Guest96708: that would work
[06:01] <awolf> Oh ok
[06:01] <KM0201> awolf: recovery mode, logs you in as root automatically
[06:01] <devslash> I upgraded ubuntu server to 12.10 and now when I boot, my server hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known." I can only fully boot in recovery mode which is of course not ideal.. any help?
[06:02] <hateball> Guest96708: Personally I make /boot and swap primary, then whatever else extended (if I bother to partition manually)
[06:02] <awolf> got it
[06:02] <awolf> un momento
[06:02] <starbuck33> hi, i got lots of .deb packages from my old ubuntu installation and copied them into /var/cache/apt/archives/ ... unfortunately apt-get doesn't recognize them and wants to download the packages again, even if they are the exact same version, same crc etc... - so, how can i make apt-get to learn that the packages are already there???
[06:03] <KM0201> awolf: once you get logged in as root, cd to home (cd /home) and ls -l
[06:03] <KM0201> and post what it says about your home folder
[06:03] <awolf> drw-r--r-- 4 root root 4096 Oct 19 01:29 aaron
[06:04] <KM0201> ok...
[06:04] <KM0201> try this... chown -R aaron:aaron /home/username
[06:04] <Guest96708> hateball: so that I can install many linux partitions into extended, right? --but since I won't install another linux but *bsd which has nothing to do with linux swap (it has *bsd-swap in gpt) and grub boot interferes with *bsd, dunno exactly about bootloader whether to create out of exended or inside? 9.9
[06:04] <zetheroo> how do I check which ports are open on my system?
[06:04] <KM0201> (assuming aaron is your username)
[06:04] <CoolCoder> I have tried to upgrade ubuntu 11.4 to new version. But so many issues. First was it says no disk space. There is a total of 200GB disk alloted for Ubuntu and there is nothing other than softwares installed. But not sure why its full. The next is, I tried to upgrade the present version. And getting these issues http://pastebin.com/ynQD468E .I am doing reference to fix this for last 2 days and nothing gives the solution
[06:05] <Mechdave> awolf, what did you do to your /home directory?
[06:05] <devslash> cool_code: i had the same error for unable to fetch urls. just keep trying
[06:05] <awolf> so the last part, where you typed username, I should keep that as "username" or make it "aaron" ?
[06:05] <KM0201> Mechdave: apparently really jacked it up..lol
[06:05] <hateball> Guest96708: I have no idea about dualbooting with BSD. Sorry.
[06:05] <awolf> I was trying what somebody said about moving my home directory to see if it fixed something else
[06:05] <KM0201> awolf: whatever your username is, use it in all three spots (looking at that, i assumed your username was aaron)
[06:05] <awolf> got it
[06:06] <Mechdave> awolf, you need to chmod your /home
[06:06] <Mechdave> chown rather
[06:06] <KM0201> Mechdave: thatws what we just did
[06:06] <KM0201> it was owned by root.
[06:06] <awolf> well, I did chown -R aaron:aaron /home/aaron just now
[06:06] <KM0201> awolf: now, after you do that, try ls -l and see what it says
[06:06] <Mechdave> Not a good thing if you want to log in :)
[06:07] <KM0201> i dont see how that will keep him from logging in
[06:07] <Guest96708> Anybody with *bsd experience? im facing certain issues on boot loaders, bootmanager, etc.
[06:07] <devslash> any help with my issue is appreciated
[06:07] <awolf> ah now it looks right!
[06:07] <awolf> So I should restart and see
[06:07] <KM0201> awolf: now, try to reboot and see if it works.
[06:07] <awolf> Thanks for the help!
[06:07] <CoolCoder> devslash: I have been trying this for last 2 months
[06:07] <KM0201> awolf: thank me if it works..lol
[06:08] <Mechdave> awolf, you also need to make sure /home/aaron is owned by you but /ome is owned by root still
[06:08] <awolf> ok
[06:08] <KM0201> Mechdave: the only thing we changed, was /home/aaron.. we didn't mess w/ /
[06:08] <awolf> still failed
[06:09] <KM0201> hell, it might be easier to just reinstall.
[06:09] <awolf> No way
[06:09] <KM0201> why no way?
[06:09] <awolf> It's just this one thing, I'll get it
[06:09] <KM0201> yeah, hopefully
[06:09] <awolf> Because I didn't back up that recently, not for a few weeks, cause I was lazy
[06:10] <Mechdave> awolf, way I have overcome the problem is just back up your /home directory and then delete it from the /home and then log back in again. The system should recreate your home directory
[06:10] <KM0201> well,  you can still backup... you could probably just boot a live cd, and b ackup to an external drive.
[06:10] <awolf> yeah
[06:10] <KM0201> hmm, Mechdave thats an interesting way to solve this.
[06:10] <awolf> but I think I can get it fixed
[06:10] <KM0201> it makes sense
[06:10] <user__> Why doesn't libnss3-1d install on clean Ubuntu 12.04.1?
[06:10] <cheshair> Hi! I am upgrading to 12.10 from my 12.04. The installer is stuck. Can you help me?
[06:10] <ivan82> hello everyone
[06:11] <awolf> ok back at root
[06:11] <KM0201> user__: dunno... what are you trying to install?
[06:11] <KM0201> !12.10 | cheshair
[06:11] <KM0201> cheshair: why are you upgrading a server to a beta release?