[00:01] <sabgenton> what is a shure fire way to test you printer from the comand line
[00:05] <Spanglish_7776> hmm sabgenton 1 sec
[00:06] <sabgenton> :)
[00:06] <Spanglish_7776> this miight help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222180
[00:06] <Spanglish_7776> hmm 1 sec agin
[00:06] <Spanglish_7776> again*
[00:07] <Spanglish_7776> sabgenton you have cups installed?
[00:07] <sabgenton> yeah
[00:07] <sabgenton> is there not some way I can print without cups?
[00:07] <sabgenton> just form the command line?
[00:08] <sabgenton> a usb brother 2040 is plug in via usb
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> and it's detected?
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> ?
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> dmesg
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> are you using ubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <Spanglish_7776> ?
[00:09] <Spanglish_7776> sabgenton are you using ubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <Avenegra> hello, anyone with experience with samba AD member fileservers?
[00:10] <sabgenton> no ubuntu server headless
[00:10] <Spanglish_7776> Aven, I'm actually working on the same thing.
[00:10] <Spanglish_7776> sabgenton, gotcha
[00:10] <sabgenton> sorry my internet just restarted
[00:10] <Spanglish_7776> np sab, is you're printer detected and the driver installed?
[00:11] <Spanglish_7776> you can unplug and plug the usb cable and in the command line type dmesg and see if it's detected, etc
[00:11] <sabgenton> I've tryed  redirecting files to > /dev/lp0
[00:11] <sabgenton> but nothing
[00:11] <Spanglish_7776> is it showing in dmesg?
[00:12] <Spanglish_7776> 1 sec
[00:15] <sabgenton> nope
[00:16] <Avenegra> anyone has experience in samba active directory integration? i have a server running ok but there's a problem: when connecting as the domain admin the files created appear owned as root:"domain admins", why it wont map correctly?
[00:17] <sabgenton> Spanglish_7776: any Ideas?
[00:17] <Spanglish_7776> googling 1 sec
[00:23] <Spanglish_7776> sab- try lp filename
[00:26] <Spanglish_7776> work sabgenton?
[00:28] <sabgenton> $ lp filef lp: Error - no default destination available.
[00:28] <Spanglish_7776> printer is probably not installed correctly
[00:28] <sabgenton> yep thats why I'm here
[00:29] <sabgenton> should lp work if cups isn't installed
[00:29] <sabgenton> ?
[00:29] <sabgenton> or do you need cups for every type of printing
[00:30] <sabgenton> apparently I should have symlinked stuff before installing drivers?
[00:31] <sabgenton> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/cupsys /etc/init.d/cups
[00:31] <sabgenton> ?
[00:34] <sabgenton> do I need lpd drivers??
[00:34] <sabgenton> I only installed the cups driver for my printer not the lpd
[00:35] <sabgenton> ok symlinking seems silly as there is a reall file there
[00:35] <sabgenton> oh wait
[00:35] <sabgenton> the installer put it there
[00:35] <sabgenton> probably
[00:39] <sabgenton> ok I'm going to try move /etc/init.d/cups to /etc/init.d/cupsys
[00:39] <sabgenton> and makeing the later a symlink to the former
[00:42] <Roxyhart0> I i am trying to add this acl on ldap using the command: ldapmodify -x -D cn=admin,cn=config -W . But i am getting: invalid format (line 4) entry: "olcDatabase={1}hdb,cn=config"
[00:42] <Roxyhart0> my acls are: http://pastebin.com/d4dbec0b . Any idea?
[01:22] <Roxyhart0> i just include the acl but i am gettin this error: hi, i did the acl but when i restart samba i got this error: palm slapd[8779]: bdb_db_cache: db_open(sambaDomainName) failed:Permission denied (13) any idea?
[01:26] <ZimCS> has anyone used backupPC before?
[01:28] <twb> !anyone
[01:30] <Roxyhart0> Does anyone/anybode know how i can know if my nss_ldap can connect to LDAP? i am getting this error but i dont know why..nss_ldap: could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,d...
[01:31] <twb> nss_ldap can connect to LDAP -- there wouldn't be any point to it if it couldn't.
[01:31] <Roxyhart0> why could be the cause for this error?
[01:32] <twb> libnss_ldap definitely SHOULD NOT be binding as the privileged binddn.
[01:32] <twb> It probably doesn't need more than an anonymous  bind.
[01:33] <Roxyhart0> ok, i will chage that
[01:33] <Roxyhart0> and will try ...thanks
[01:36] <ZimCS> ok, that was excessive.  Is backupPC a good solution for backing up PC's on a home server.  Would anyone recommend anything different?
[01:38] <Roxyhart0> bakula?
[01:39] <twb> I've used rsnapshot for backups to an offsite unix host.  I don't LIKE it, but it's less effort than amanda.
[01:40] <Roxyhart0> twb i chage the user but still the same error
[01:40] <pting> i'm trying to setup rssh to chroot certain sftp and scp users... i noticed in the release notes for 9.10 that upstart will prevent this from working. the workaround was to point /bin/true to /sbin/initctl... what exactly will happen when i make this change?
[01:40] <qman__> ZimCS, I have not used it before, but the information on the site is interesting
[01:40] <twb> I avoid backups to tape/dvd, because they require users to be awake, and that's not going to happen reliably.
[01:41] <twb> pting: why wouldn't you just use OpenSSH's built-in chroot functionality?
[01:42] <qman__> yeah, it's a built in option in recent releases, in ubuntu since 9.04 IIRC
[01:42] <pting> twb, that's a good question, i should have looked for that first. i didn't realize. thanks
[01:42] <twb> pting: it's relatively new -- not in 8.04, IIRC
[01:42] <pting> twb, thx, i'll give that a shot
[01:43] <qman__> yeah, it's not in 8.04
[01:43] <qman__> I used jailkit for my hardy setups
[01:54] <Roxyhart0> i solve it, i didt have installed nscd
[01:55] <Roxyhart0> but still i am getting this error: bdb_db_cache: db_open(mail) failed: Permission denied (13). is it acl error?
[01:55] <Roxyhart0> somebody know why is this error?
[02:47] <Roxyhart0> hi i am installing a pdc and i am gettin this error. I try to join PDC, do a getlocalsid, etc but i doesnt work. somebody know about a doc to configurate properlu a PDC (ubuntu guide doesn work)
[04:28] <Roxyhart0> hi somebody know how i can set a wins server?
[05:08] <twb> Roxyhart0: that's part of Samba
[05:08] <twb> Assuming you want the WINS server to be on Ubuntu
[05:09] <Roxyhart0> yes
[05:09] <Roxyhart0> tahnks
[05:10] <Roxyhart0> i just found it :)
[06:37] <Roxyhart0> hi when i do net getlocalsid i am getting this error. any idea? Can't fetch domain SID for name:rx
[06:58] <jumbers> Is there a way to kill a console session via SSH? My datacenter seems to have left my machine logged in as root, at the console, for the past 7 days
[07:08] <thebwt> jumbers: should be able to 'top' and find the 'bash' processes.
[07:09] <jumbers> thebwt: Thanks, but somebody mentioned "skill" to me and that worked
[07:10] <thebwt> jumbers: I just learned a new command :)
[07:11] <jumbers> thebwt: skill -KILL -v tty1 or pts/1, etc
[07:11] <thebwt> *nods*
[07:41] <Roxyhart0>  hi aim having this error messagw ehen i try to join my PDC to the domain NT user token: (NULL) UNIX token of user 0, Primary group is 0 and contains 0 supplementary groups
[07:41] <Roxyhart0> somebody have any idea?
[08:42] <twb> I'm building disk images using live-helper.
[08:42] <twb> Unfortunately, fbcon appears to be loaded by the userland during init: "Switching to colour framebuffer 80x30"
[08:43] <twb> This is a pain, because I have to boot X to test VMs that use VESA instead of the 80x25 text console.  Where's the problem code live, and how do I shut it off?
[08:43] <twb> (This is after switching from 8.04 to 10.04.)
[09:31] <ttx> soren: ping
[10:07] <maxagaz_> how to get the uid of someone from its id ?
[10:07] <maxagaz_> is there a command to do taht ?
[10:26] <ara> hello all
[10:26] <ara> I tried to install lucid latest ubuntu-server in KVM, and when it boots, after showing plymouth, it hangs with a cursor blinking in the upper left corner
[10:26] <ara> any ideas?
[10:34] <kaushal> hi
[10:34] <kaushal> i get this error mount.nfs: No such device inside the domU while trying to mount the nfs inside the VM
[10:35] <kaushal> "No such device" - NFS is not configured into the client's kernel.
[10:35] <kaushal> Any clue ?
[10:38] <sherringham> kausbal: do you need to install NFS support?
[10:39] <sherringham> */kaushal/kausbal/
[10:40] <kaushal> sherringham: i did not understand
[10:42] <kaushal> sherringham: i do not have kernel inside domU
[10:42] <sherringham> kaushal: nfs-common pckage? Try : sudo apt-get install nfs-common (in client)
[10:42] <kaushal> sherringham: did that already :)
[10:43] <sherringham> kaushal : "NFS is not configured into the client's kernel" - what kernel? uname -a
[10:43] <kaushal> 2.6.24-24-xen
[10:44] <sherringham> kaushal: OK, sorry. I don't have experience of Xen - maybe it has no NFS kernel support. Seems odd - but I don't know. Sorry.
[10:46] <MenZa> I'm attempting to setup openvpn on my server, and my primary problem is creating a bridge interface. When I add it, it doesn't show up in ifconfig after restarting networking. I've used this guide as my starting point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[10:49] <twb> Since both Xen and NFS are implemented in the kernel, and Xen involves lying about the filesystem to DomUs, it wouldn't surprise me if NFS support was simply broken within Xen
[10:59] <MenZa> Err. Why is an interface not defined in /etc/network/interfaces showing up in ifconfig?
[10:59] <twb> MenZa: because it's configured?
[10:59] <MenZa> twb: How do I remove it?
[10:59] <twb> If you have accidentally installed NetworkManager, it will bugger up your networking
[11:00] <MenZa> Oh, no -- I'm trying to setup a bridged device
[11:00] <MenZa> Then networking went fubar, and I decided to remove it again
[11:00] <twb> "ifconfig eth0 down" should deconfigure an interface eth0
[11:00] <twb> bridges might be different
[11:02] <MenZa> Well, I still can't connect to the thing.
[11:02]  * MenZa growls.
[11:02] <MenZa> Although br0 is now gone from ifconfig
[11:02] <RoyK> ifconfig -a?
[11:02] <MenZa> Oh, still running.
[11:02] <twb> brctl is probably the way to drop bridges
[11:03] <MenZa> Right
[11:03] <MenZa> Success. I'm in.
[11:03] <MenZa> Thanks.
[11:03]  * MenZa phews.
[11:04]  * MenZa draws a line under the large "DON'T TOUCH THE NETWORKING" sign on his wall.
[11:05] <twb> You think that's funny
[11:06] <MenZa> All I can say is "thank you, Linode, for LISH"
[11:06] <twb> If you make a typo in /etc/hosts, suddenly sudo doesn't work
[11:06]  * RoyK rearranges MenZa's networking
[11:06] <MenZa> twb: indeed
[11:06] <MenZa> twb: I was quite nervous when I had to change the hostname of this box :)
[11:06] <RoyK> why?
[11:06] <MenZa> For the same reason that I'd typo something. I read it over three times before :w'ing
[11:06] <twb> Do not get me started on renaming LDAP slaves.
[11:06] <MenZa> hehehe
[11:30] <soren> ttx: What's up?
[11:32] <ttx> soren: will talk to you later... if you're available
[11:34] <soren> ttx: Sure.
[12:33] <vish> ttx: could you also close Bug 194472 sudo task as "wont fix" , desktop team wanted the server team to make the final call on that [seems no point in having an open bug ;)  ]
[12:39] <ttx> vish: done
[12:40] <vish> thanks :)
[12:45] <ttx> soren: wanted to have an updated status on the puppet/etckeeper thing
[12:45] <walle_> hi, does anyone know how i can obtain a list of security updates for a ubuntu system as an unprivileged user (ie. unable to run apt-get update)? the goal is to write a monitor script which can be used by remote a remote monitoring solution to alert if there is a unpatched system is detected.
[12:52] <soren> ttx: I'm working on the puppet merge today. I'll see if I can get the hooks sorted out today, otherwise it's at the top of my list for next week.
[12:53] <ttx> soren: ok, thanks for the update
[14:19] <ttx> kirkland: if you can send me your latest pxe/index.php, I could make use of it. I almost completed the local build testing infrastructure.
[14:20] <kirkland> ttx: let me put it in a bzr repo
[14:21] <ttx> kirkland: ok, let me know when done.
[14:21] <kirkland> ttx: organizing now
[14:21] <ttx> kirkland: I managed to have the installer use my local build eucalyptus-udeb, now I just need to convince it to use my additional local repository
[14:21] <Roxyhart0> somebody know how i can know groups and users in linux?
[14:22] <ttx> Roxyhart0: "getent passwd"and "getent group" ?
[14:23] <Roxyhart0> thanks
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: lp:~kirkland/+junk/uec-auto-install
[14:24] <ttx> kirkland: cool, thx
[14:24] <Spanglish_7776> anyone familiar with Samba?
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: feel free to propose merges, if you can make it more generic to work with your setup too
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: would be nice to work off of a common framework
[14:24] <ttx> yep
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: and would help to give to a newbie to get up and running quickly
[14:25] <Spanglish_7776> I have configured a share but my xp box doesn't see it. and if I enter it manually it prompts me for authentication but doesn't accept
[14:25] <ttx> As soon as I maange to have it pull from my $**!&% local repo
[14:34] <erichammond> restarting mysql on cody
[14:34] <erichammond> oops, wrong tab
[14:40] <Pupeno> Any ideas how to run ufw enable in a non-interactive way?
[14:43] <pmatulis> Pupeno: once enabled it will stay enabled (persistent across reboots)
[14:44] <Kagarman> Hello
[14:44] <Pupeno> pmatulis: I know that.
[14:44] <pmatulis> Pupeno: ok, so rephrase then
[14:44] <jdstrand> Pupeno: I'm assuming you are referring to the ssh prompt. Lucid will support '--force enable' soon. Ubuntu 9.04 and later support preseeding via debconf
[14:44] <Kagarman>  	Как дела?
[14:44] <Kagarman> How are you?
[14:44] <Pupeno> pmatulis: how do you want me to rephrase it? I want to run ufw enable and get the firewall enabled without a prompt.
[14:45] <Pupeno> Well, thank god for yes... yes | ufw enable
[14:45] <Kagarman> Do you speak Russia?
[14:45] <Pici> !ru | Kagarman
[14:53] <Sorrel> hey, is there any difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[15:00] <smoser> lifeless, i see you on txaws, we're wanting to package that and i was wondering if there was already a package.
[15:00] <Pupeno> How do I make ufw forget about an allow/reject/deny of an app?
[15:01] <jdstrand> Pupeno: ufw delete <rule>
[15:01] <Pupeno> jdstrand: doesn't seem to work with apps.
[15:01] <Pupeno> This: ufw delete OpenSSH fails.
[15:02] <jdstrand> Pupeno: that is improper syntax. use:
[15:02] <jdstrand> ufw delete allow OpenSSH
[15:02] <Pupeno> oh, I see.
[15:02] <jdstrand> Pupeno: basically, prefix 'delete' before the rule that you used to add it (see 'man ufw' for details)
[15:06] <Sorrel> :/
[15:06] <ttx> smoser: o/
[15:06] <smoser> good morning ttx
[15:06] <ttx> smoser: question for you, how is AWS library packaging looking ?
[15:07] <smoser> i just opened 2 bugs for 'needs packaging' for right_aws (and dependency right_http_connection)
[15:07] <smoser> i have packages building, but no real idea how to test
[15:07] <smoser> just pinged lifeless above regarding txaws
[15:08] <Sorrel> when setting up a static i.p. to the outside world domain name server is = gateway right?
[15:08] <smoser> i've not looked at the other 2
[15:09] <Sorrel> ls
[15:09] <ttx> smoser: ok
[15:13] <sherringham> Sorrel: not necessarily - but the function is often built into routers/modems (DSL/cable etc.)
[15:14] <Sorrel> that's sherringham
[15:14] <Sorrel> thanks sherringham
[15:14] <sherringham> Sorrel: re: apt-get - aptitude/apt-get do the same thing pretty much, except aptitude also has a curses interface and is thought to have slightly more sophisticated deps checking/resolving
[15:15] <Sorrel> sherringham:  so there's not really a reason to use aptitude over apt-get
[15:16] <sherringham> Sorrel: as I say, aptitude might be preferred sometimes for resolving deps. But I use both interchangeably.
[15:17] <TeTeT> soren: is there a vmbuilder backport for Hardy somewhere, so you can build karmic images on hardy?
[15:18] <Sorrel> sherringham:  I understand now, Thanks :)
[15:22] <soren> TeTeT: I'm not sure, to be honest.
[15:25] <Fawzib> question: i have a linux server connected to my dsl modem (modem is dhcp server). in my linux server I have a router card. i want to be able to connect comps to the router card and redirect traffic to go out of the server main lan card which is connected to the dsl modem. how would i accomplish that?
[15:27] <Sorrel> edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[15:27] <Sorrel> file
[15:28] <Sorrel> the nic that you want to use to go out to the world ( DSL ) should have a static I.P.
[15:28] <Sorrel> and the internal one should have a static I.P. but have a broadcast range
[15:28] <Spanglish_7776> i believe you'll have to also do packet forwarding (MASQ&NAT) ipchains.
[15:29] <Spanglish_7776> and may want to utilize dhcp (broadcast range)
[15:29] <Fawzib> ugh, has to be static? isnt there a way to everything comming from router card broadcast it?
[15:29] <Sorrel> !pastebucket
[15:30] <Sorrel> what is the link to pastebucket?
[15:30] <Pici> !paste
[15:30] <Sorrel> something like this
[15:31] <Sorrel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/374798/
[15:31] <Sorrel> don't use those address
[15:31] <Sorrel> ( anybody want to break into my network now )
[15:32] <Spanglish_7776> Fawzib I'd suggest IPCop or pfsense, very good open source linux based router software, I use pfsense
[15:32] <Spanglish_7776> very good.
[15:33] <TeTeT> soren: ok
[15:36] <mathiaz_> smoser: hi!
[15:36] <mathiaz_> smoser: bug 520766
[15:36] <ttx> mathiaz_: What's the status on server-lucid-puppet-uec-ec2-integration ? Still planning to complete it for alpha3 ? Am I right in assuming this is not affected by FF ?
[15:36] <mathiaz_> smoser: what is it invalid?
[15:36] <mathiaz_> ttx: still planning to work on this
[15:36] <mathiaz_> ttx: some of the item are impacted by FF
[15:36] <smoser> because you tried to register a on-existant file
[15:37] <smoser> ec2-bundle-image I_DO_NOT_EXIST
[15:37] <smoser> s/on-existant/non-existant/
[15:37] <Fawzib> pfsense is a full distribution, already have xbmc-live running on the server, just added a router card to connect my PS3 to it
[15:37] <mathiaz_> ttx: mainly adding the puppet job to cloud-init
[15:37] <mathiaz_> ttx: now that I have access to a UEC cloud I can work on this
[15:40] <ttx> mathiaz_: ok
[15:42] <Xpistos|work> Excuse me, where is the Trash directory in the Karmic?
[15:43] <mathiaz> smoser: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[15:43] <mathiaz> smoser: using the same sequence of commands with 20100209 it works correclty
[15:43] <smoser> try this, and you'll get the same error that you got in the bug report:
[15:43] <genii> Xpistos|work: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[15:43] <Xpistos|work> thanks
[15:44] <mathiaz> smoser: ah gotcha
[15:44] <smoser> euca-bundle-image -i THE_EYES_OF_TEXAS_ARE_UPON_YOU -r x86_64 --ramdisk true
[15:44] <smoser> :)
[15:44] <smoser> ok.
[15:45] <smoser> it might be reasonable to open a bug against euca2ools to have a better error message than "invalid image"
[15:45] <Xpistos|work> genii: That is in server?
[15:45] <smoser> ie, "file does not exist"
[15:49] <genii> Xpistos|work: It gets created if you are going a terminal server. A regular "Trash" doesn't exist otherwise though (as far as i know, since rm'd files don't go into some temp place)
[15:49] <Elad> if I am getting the following errors, how do I fix them? (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
[15:49] <Elad> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[15:49] <Elad> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[15:49] <Elad> Unable to open logs
[15:49] <Elad>    ...fail!
[15:50] <Sorrel> running as root?
[15:51] <sherringham> Elad: Apache? sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[15:51] <Xpistos|work> genii: Thanks! I am trying desperately to recover lost files, but it is looking bad, I wanted to see if I could check in the trash.
[15:51] <Elad> sherringham: the error was produced while doing /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[15:51] <Elad> I am afraid that a restart will take it down and not come back up
[15:52] <Elad> or is that a common error when performing a reload?
[15:52] <sherringham> Elad: Don't think I ever reload. What command failed? As what user?
[15:53] <Elad> sherringham: haha, I wasn't sudoing it
[15:53] <Elad> works now, thanks for the obvious
[16:12] <Elad> another question I have, if I have a cert for https://www.mysite.com, users that hit https://mysite.com are getting a security exception - how do I tell apache to redirect all non www requests for that domain to auto-redirect to the www domain?
[16:15] <RoyK> Elad: lots of ways - I usually use a php header() call with a 302
[16:18] <Elad> I am trying the header('location: https://www.mysite.com') and it still serves up the error
[16:19] <Elad> RoyK: looks like I have die( header('location: https://www.mysite.com')) - I wonder if the die is returning a different header code
[16:19] <Elad> let me remove that and see what happens
[16:19] <TeTeT> soren: when vmbuilder asks for 'Password for root on localhost?' - does it actually expect me to have a root password set on my system?
[16:20] <soren> TeTeT: "asks for"? It should be completely non-interactive.
[16:21] <TeTeT> soren: yeah, that's what's surprising me, I started it like: sudo vmbuilder xen ubuntu --addpkg=openoffice.org --addpkg=cups-pdf --suite karmic
[16:22] <soren> TeTeT: It must be something cups-pdf is asking.
[16:22] <soren> TeTeT: Could you try leaving that out and re-run?
[16:24] <TeTeT> soren: will do, I report back
[16:33] <soren> TeTeT: ta
[16:36] <mathiaz> smoser: tried to use uec-publish-tarball:http://paste.ubuntu.com/374828/
[16:38] <smoser> mathiaz, environment is set up ?
[16:39] <mathiaz> smoser: mouaahahahahah - no :/
[16:39] <smoser> :)
[16:40] <mathiaz> smoser: \o/ - works! thanks for the help
[16:41] <smoser> mathiaz, fyi, with euca2ools, you can now take that eucarc that it gives you and put that in ~/.eucarc
[16:41] <smoser> no more need to export sensitive info in the environment
[16:48] <jpds> Ah, missed ivoks by a few minutes.
[16:51] <BeardedChimp> Is there a central place that I can use to empty log files on reboot so that they dont keep getting larger and larger? I have a few udev scripts that put things into /var/log. I could use /tmp but that seems to miss the point of /var/log
[16:53] <sherringham> BeardedChimp: use logrotate to manage log files
[16:57] <BeardedChimp> sherringham: This is perfect, thank you
[17:00] <soren> zul: Mind if I assign the etckeeper MIR writing work item to you?
[17:00] <Bookman> I cannot seem to get a printer working over the internet.  Any ideas why?  Both systems are running Ubuntu 9.10
[17:01] <crazygir> hiya!
[17:02] <crazygir> question, where is the "proper" place (in ubuntu) for vhosts (as a DocumentRoot) ?
[17:02] <thebwt> crazygir: I use ~/www/<site name>/public_html
[17:03] <thebwt> so that I have write access
[17:03] <crazygir> they're not associated with any user in particular
[17:03] <crazygir> they're just served off of the server :)
[17:03] <thebwt> you could do /var/www/<site name> then
[17:03] <crazygir> fantastic
[17:03] <mathiaz> crazygir: the FHS recomends to put stuff in /srv
[17:04] <thebwt> oh, my bad
[17:04] <ezra-s> crazygir, that's really up to you, some use /var/www some use /home/www, some use /web
[17:04] <crazygir> huh??
[17:04] <crazygir>  /srv?
[17:04] <ezra-s> apache is that flexible
[17:04] <thebwt> /srv/wwww, no /var/www
[17:04] <crazygir> I know apache is flexible, but it's more about ubuntu convention that I'm asking about
[17:04] <thebwt>  /srv is the "standard"
[17:04] <ezra-s> just tell apache which config file to run with the appropiate settings and voilá
[17:04] <mathiaz> crazygir: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM
[17:04] <Bookman> I have my router forwarding port 631
[17:04] <ezra-s> oh.. I see
[17:04] <mathiaz> crazygir: there isn't any convention in ubuntu
[17:05] <ezra-s> I'd say /var/www then
[17:05] <crazygir> mathiaz: putting stuff in /srv isn't a convention?
[17:05] <mathiaz> crazygir: as ubuntu follows the FHS
[17:05] <crazygir> ok
[17:06] <crazygir> thanks!
[17:12] <Bookman> I followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu but I still cannot get it to print.
[17:12] <Lam3r_co> hello
[17:13] <sherringham> Bookman: did you check for errors in any log files?
[17:13] <Lam3r_co> is problem with vsftpd enough server related?
[17:14] <TeTeT> soren: it worked without cups-pdf, any chance to automate it with cups-pdf installed/
[17:14] <sherringham> Lam3r_co: probably (running on ubuntu server)
[17:15] <Lam3r_co> then, please how is it possible, that I can login on my ftpd and the other user cannot (bad login)
[17:16] <Lam3r_co> I tried changing password, but still the same
[17:16] <thebwt> sounds like the users aren't allow, permissions
[17:16] <thebwt> allowed*
[17:16] <Lam3r_co> how can I check it?
[17:17] <thebwt> not positive.
[17:17] <Lam3r_co> the other user has shell /bin/false, can it be it?
[17:17] <thebwt> does ftp use shell settings?
[17:17] <Lam3r_co> I have no idea
[17:18] <da65> if anyone gets files holded back when running apt-get upgrade all you need to do is run apt-get autoclean worked for me
[17:18] <thebwt> to be honest, I always use sftp. It sets up so much easier. So setting up standard ftp is unkown to me.
[17:19] <Lam3r_co> the peeps I'm making this for don't know how to use sftp
[17:20] <da65> if your accessing your Ubuntu server from a windows machine you will have a job to get better than WinSCP
[17:20] <thebwt> Lam3r_co: what ftp client are they using?
[17:20] <Lam3r_co> thebwt: total commander or filezilla
[17:21] <Lam3r_co> thebwt: I use psftp
[17:21] <Bookman> sherringham, which log file on which machine?
[17:21] <da65> http://winscp.net/eng/index.php if in Windows, it's great, free to
[17:21] <thebwt> all those support sftp, try connecting (it is this exact same as connecting with ftp)
[17:22] <thebwt> just set it to sftp
[17:22] <da65> wish they would do a unix version though
[17:22] <Lam3r_co> okay, so I just remove VSFTPD and install sftpd?
[17:22] <thebwt> sftp is with ssh
[17:23] <thebwt> do you access your server with ssh?
[17:23] <da65> to be safe yes :)
[17:23] <thebwt> k
[17:23] <thebwt> then it's already set up
[17:23] <Lam3r_co> ooh, so I'm ready with openssh?
[17:23] <da65> only way you will get root on ftp is sftp anyway
[17:23] <thebwt> Lam3r_co: yup
[17:24] <Lam3r_co> great, thanks guys :)
[17:24] <thebwt> Lam3r_co: give it a try and see if it does everything you need
[17:24] <da65> I love root
[17:24] <thebwt> I love well done permissions
[17:28] <sherringham> Bookman: no idea, I don;t use printing. Cups? Check /ar/log/syslog, others perhaps. On server probably.
[17:29] <Bookman> Is there a way to monitor which ports have connections/attempted connections on the server?
[17:29] <sherringham> Bookman: debug cups described here (incl. log file) :
[17:29] <sherringham> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/cups.html
[17:30] <sherringham> Google search : debug internet printing +cups +ubuntu
[17:33] <Sorrel> sudo make
[17:33] <Sorrel> :/
[17:33] <Sorrel> sry
[17:35] <Bookman> maybe this is the error:
[17:35] <Bookman> Request from "<IP_ADDRESS>" using invalid Host: field "clarkhomeftp.dlinkddns.com"
[17:35] <Bookman> This is an error in the cups error log.  It looks like the client is contacting the server. but something is going wrong
[17:39] <jiboumans> kirkland: remember the AA ppa review please
[17:39] <jiboumans> thanks
[17:42] <sherringham> Bookman: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=EXK&q=%22using+invalid+Host%3A+field%22+%2Bcups&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[17:42] <sherringham> *oops - sorry -search : "using invalid Host: field" +cups
[17:47] <Bookman> sherringham, got it and many thanks.
[17:48] <sherringham> Bookman: no problem. Helping you help yourself :-)
[17:49] <Bookman> gotta sharpen my google skills
[17:49] <smoser> mathiaz, kirkland , i'm in need of sponsor for for right_aws work:
[17:49] <smoser> libright-aws-ruby (LP: #521002)
[17:49] <smoser> libright-http-connection-ruby (LP: #521006)
[17:49] <smoser> libuuidtools-ruby (LP: #521077)
[17:50] <mathiaz> smoser: cool - I'll have a look at it
[17:51] <smoser> ppa builds are on their way to https://launchpad.net/~smoser/+archive/ppa/+packages
[18:04] <Eriroley|work> I'm running into some problems when trying to get my system to auth to a windows AD system via krb5.
[18:04] <Eriroley|work> Auth works "as expected" but the windows security log is spammed with pre-authentication failures. Anybody have any hints, or suggestions to point me in the right way
[18:05] <Eriroley|work> The google seems to have a lot of people that are having the same problem, but no solutions that I can find.
[18:16] <smoser> mathiaz, for txaws, there is no upstream source releases, so what should i use for orig tarball/how do i handle that?
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: ask upstream to make an upstream tarball release
[18:17] <smoser> :)
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: if upstream is using a setup.py you can use setup.py sdist to create the tarball
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: in the get-orig-source
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: and fix setup.py to properly work with sdist (ie everything is packaged as expected)
[18:17] <smoser> upstream has a setup.py, but there isn't a released version
[18:19] <mathiaz> smoser: ok - then use the an upstream version number based on the bzr revno you're packaging from
[18:19] <mathiaz> smoser: like: 0.1~bzr1234
[18:19] <smoser> ok
[18:21] <smoser> mathiaz, so then i end up creating the .orig.tar.gz, right? thats what you're implying.
[18:22] <mathiaz> smoser: yeah - it would be a native package
[18:22] <mathiaz> smoser: since upstream doesn't have a released tarball
[18:23] <mathiaz> smoser: I'd actually as in #ubuntu-motu
[18:23] <mathiaz> smoser: there may be other options to handle the use case where an upstream doesn't have a released tarball
[18:23] <smoser> k
[18:30] <ribo> anyone use user-mode linux in karmic?
[18:38] <nijaba> hello led-zep
[18:38] <nijaba> nice to see you here
[18:38] <led-zep> hi nick !
[18:38] <led-zep> nice to be here :-)
[18:38] <nijaba> led-zep: so this is where all the cool server people hang-out :)
[18:39] <led-zep> ok a place to be for me for sure ;)
[19:07] <soren> smoser: I usually just create a tarball of the content of upstream's VCS and use that as my orig.tar.gz.
[19:07] <soren> smoser: ...so not as a native package, but with a home-grown upstream tarball.
[19:07] <smoser> they released one
[19:08]  * soren has done this quite a bit
[19:08] <soren> Oh, great.
[19:08]  * soren did that with network-manager-{openvpn,vpnc,pptp}, eucalytpus, libcloud, opennebula, libgfshare..
[19:08] <soren> Come to think of it, I think most of my packages started out that way :)
[19:09]  * soren wanders off again
[19:15] <smoser> have a nice friday night soren
[19:19] <smoser> mathiaz, also seeking review of lp:~smoser/+junk/python-txaws (bug 521121) now.
[19:56] <lifeless> smoser: I don't think anyone has packaged txaws, I may be wrong. Two groups to check with: U1, and landscape.
[19:56] <smoser> lifeless, thanks. its on its way.
[19:59] <koolhead17> kees:
[20:13] <crazygir> for setting up postfix.. if all I want to do is send out emails via php applications.. should I use "internet site"
[20:13] <crazygir> in the configuration utility
[20:19] <Italian_Plumber> hello.  With grub, to choose the saveddefault item as the default item, is the line "default saveddefault", or just "saveddefault"?
[20:20] <Italian_Plumber> or "default saved"
[20:22] <zul> soren: mem
[20:22] <zul> soren: meh even
[20:28] <Xpistos|work> If I have a NFS share and I delete something off it can i still recover it on my server if I don't have a backup somewhere?
[20:35] <momelod> greetings channel
[20:36] <momelod> does anyone know why make-kpkg would fail on a xen patched kernel source?
[20:49] <sherringham> Xpistos|work: I don't think so (unless you get down and dirty with the filesystem)
[20:49] <Xpistos|work> sherringham: Thanks. I was able to rcover some things, but not everything and the pcitures is what I am most concerned about.
[20:49] <sherringham> crazygir: satellite system might be best - smarthost. The postfix site (postfix.org) has very good docs.
[20:53] <DrNick_> i'm sure there must be some 'un-delete' tools available for linux filesystems
[20:54] <DrNick_> when one deletes a file on ext3/reiser, i'd imagine only the entry in the inode table is cleared
[21:02] <sherringham> Yes, a google search finds some info - worth a shot, if you really need to.
[21:26] <smoser> mathiaz, are you able to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/euca2ools/+bug/520707 on a UEC ?
[21:26] <mathiaz> smoser: I can give it a try
[21:28] <DrNick_> all i read to begin with was 'are you able to reproduce....'
[21:39] <mathiaz> smoser: well - I can't reproduce it on an UEC setup
[21:39] <mathiaz> smoser: I don't have any snapshots created though
[21:39] <smoser> hm... funny.
[21:40] <smoser> i can't reproduce it on ec2 where there *were* snapshots
[21:40] <smoser> :)
[21:40] <smoser> so i figured it was a bug when there were none.
[21:40] <mathiaz> smoser: how do you create a snapshot?
[21:40] <smoser> can you comment to that effect in that bug ?
[21:40] <smoser> you probalby have to create a volume first
[21:40] <smoser> euca-create-volume
[21:41] <smoser> $ euca-create-volume --zone us-east-1a --size 1 sm1234
[21:42] <mathiaz> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/375007/
[21:42] <mathiaz> smoser: wait - it worked
[21:43] <mathiaz> smoser: with a size of 1
[21:43] <mathiaz> smoser: ah size is in Gb
[21:44] <mathiaz> smoser: I can reproduce the bug
[21:44] <mathiaz> smoser: when I've defined a snapshot
[21:44] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/375009/
[21:45] <smoser> oh. wow. cause i just did that pastebin, ie, create volume, create snapshot, describe snapshot, delete snapshot, delete volume
[21:45] <smoser> all worked on ec2
[21:47] <mathiaz> smoser: right - my guess is that eucalyptus return the wrong value
[21:47] <mathiaz> smoser: the error message is: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'n/a'
[21:47] <mathiaz> smoser: 'n/a' seems like something is missing from the answer
[21:48] <smoser> yeah, i think this is a euca bug
[21:48] <smoser> oh wait, yeah, i guess not necissarily
[21:50] <smoser> mathiaz, i suspect its going wrong at boto/ec2/snapshot.py:54
[21:50] <smoser> def endElement:
[21:50] <smoser>         elif name == 'volumeSize':
[21:50] <smoser>             self.volume_size = int(value)
[21:53] <mathiaz> smoser: is the answer xml?
[21:53] <smoser> answer?
[21:53] <mathiaz> smoser: the answer from ec2/UEC
[21:53] <smoser> probably
[21:55] <mathiaz> smoser: then we should compare the answer from EC2 versus the one from UEC
[21:55] <mathiaz> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/375014/
[21:55] <mathiaz> smoser: ^^ that's error we see
[21:56] <mathiaz> smoser: IMO the answer from UEC doesn't include an integer
[21:56] <smoser> yeah, i think so
[21:56] <smoser> the argument we'll get there is that that is a new api that amazon implemented that isn't in euca yet
[21:59] <smoser> mathiaz, confirmed that volumeSize was added to boto between 1.8 and 1.9
[22:00] <smoser> along with 'ownerid' and 'description'
[22:02] <smoser> mathiaz, i have to run. i posted my suspicion to bug. might have to work arond this in boto.
[22:02] <mathiaz> smoser: ok
[22:02] <smoser> can you try just changing that 'int()' and see where you get ?
[22:03] <smoser> anywy, i'm out now.
[22:03] <smoser> later.
[22:09] <pting> i'm creating a 1 TB ebs to store a lot of large files probably 500mb+ a file.. i'm thinking of going with XFS... what's blocksize do you guys recommend?
[22:09] <pting> probably like 32k?
[22:19] <rightsprocket> Hello everyone
[22:19] <rightsprocket> I am trying to use an <FilesMatch> directive in apache2 but it is not working.  As if the module is not loaded.
[22:20] <rightsprocket> Does anyone know what module I should be loading to get this to work?
[22:25] <sherringham> rightsprocket: FilesMatch is "core" : http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#filesmatch
[22:27] <rightsprocket> sherringham Thanks. I think i figured it out.  Missing an allowoverride in 000-default
[22:38] <rightsprocket> sherringham Do you know why apache would ignore a filesmatch directive?
[22:39] <rightsprocket> I am trying to figure out where to put alllowoverrides all and am having no luck.
[22:42] <sherringham> Hard to say - you sometimes have to play - but keep things simple. For instance, I am using FilesMatch to deny access to various Adobe Contribute files on a server :
[22:43] <sherringham> <FilesMatch "\.(lck|mno|bak|lbi|csi|dwt)$">
[22:43] <sherringham> Order deny,allow
[22:43] <sherringham> Deny from all

[22:48] <rightsprocket> sherringham It is as if apache is ignoring it
[22:48] <rightsprocket> I cannot seem to get apche to allow a filesmatch in my .htaccess
[22:56] <sherringham> What's your match?
[23:55] <mconigliaro> can anyone tell me how to change the hostname on an amazon ec2 instance? and/or tell me why i shouldn't do this?
[23:56] <mconigliaro> anything you do on the command seems to get overridden by what amazon provides through the dhcp client


[01:01] <arraybolt3> OK, I know this isn't much to go on, but maybe someone has some hints for me. Using Kubuntu 22.04, I've set up sbuild as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild (I didn't use the provided sbuildrc, but that shouldn't matter here). If I try to enter into one of the sbuild chroots manually for updating (schroot -c source:kinetic-amd64 -u root), I just get dropped back to my normal shell with the rather unhelpful message "E:
[01:01] <arraybolt3> Child terminated by signal ‘Segmentation fault’". How would I even start debugging this?
[01:03] <arraybolt3> I don't see much of anything alarming in /var/log/syslog, there's some "Running shell: /bin/bash", and then a lot of "Deactivated successfully" messages.
[02:07] <arraybolt3> Another question, how should I handle versioning if I want to do a sync from Debian as an SRU? I think I should add an new versioning to the packaging so as to work right with the versioning system in Ubuntu, but since it's a sync from Debian, I'm not sure if we do things differently there or not.
[03:11] <JanC> IIRC synced packages that don't have Ubuntu-specific patches get the same version as in Debian?
[05:40] <RAOF> arraybolt3: The main constraint of versioning for SRUs is that you must always be able to get a sensible "next" version that's less than the any version in any subsequent release.
[05:41] <RAOF> Also, the major benefit of not having an Ubuntu-specific version for Debian syncs (namely, that they'll get automatically resynced should a new Debian upload occur) doesn't apply to SRUs :)
[05:41] <arraybolt3> RAOF: Right. I just wasn't sure if a sync from Debian influenced that or not. For instance I know (or at least believe, I could be misremembering) that there are many packages with identical versions between releases if they're just Debian syncs. Thanks for helping me figure it out!
[05:42] <arraybolt3> And I guess this might not be a real Debian sync.
[05:42] <arraybolt3> I may be confusing terminology here.
[05:42] <RAOF> You will, at the very least, need to close a Launchpad bug in the changelog :)
[05:43] <arraybolt3> Quite easy, since the whole reason for an SRU in the first place is that there's a critical bug. (Manuskript regression, the package is utterly broken on 22.04)
[05:43] <arraybolt3> (The app won't even launch.)
[05:43] <RAOF> (Anytime you see a package with an identical version across releases that implies that there were no uploads of that package for at least a whole release cycle, and the previous package was copied forward)
[05:43] <RAOF> That sounds like a highly acceptable SRU :)
[05:43] <arraybolt3> RAOF: Oh, good to know! That makes sense to me. Thank you!
[05:44] <arraybolt3> (The idea is, if the latest version in Debian builds and works on Ubuntu, I can just take Debian's package and shove it in, done. Obviously that's just a rough overview, there's also the whole things about regression potential and whatnot, but given the fact that it's already regressed, it can't get a whole lot worse :P)
[05:45] <arraybolt3> Alright, guess I'll get to it then!
[05:48] <RAOF> Yeah, regression potential for something that's totally broken can be pleasantly easy to write :)
[14:21] <jdstrand> mwhudson: hi! I'm sure you're aware, but if not, go 1.18.7 and 1.19.2 are out. The stable snaps are still on 1.18.5 and 1.19. These two and the previous 1.18.6 and 1.19.1 are security updates
[14:22] <jdstrand> mwhudson: 'latest' is also pointing to 1.18.5 (I think that should be updated to 1.19.2?)
[14:24] <jdstrand> mwhudson: I'd be happy to file an issue, but don't know where. https://snapcraft.io/go points to https://code.launchpad.net/~go-snap-maintainers/+git/gosnap but it isn't clear it is setup for bugs
[14:24] <jdstrand> (that people would see)
[14:33] <mwhudson> jdstrand: oh right yes, been getting behind
[14:33] <mwhudson> jdstrand: want to be a maintainer of the snap? :-)
[14:39] <jdstrand> mwhudson: I wouldn't mind participating on a team to help maintain it
[14:41] <mwhudson> jdstrand: i added you to https://launchpad.net/~go-snap-maintainers which owns the branches
[14:42] <jdstrand> mwhudson: https://code.launchpad.net/~go-snap-maintainers/+git lists two branches. is lp:~go-snap-maintainers/+git/gosnap historic?
[14:43] <mwhudson> jdstrand: er. let's say yes
[14:44] <mwhudson> jdstrand: should i send a snap collaboration invite to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[14:46] <mwhudson> jdstrand: fwiw pushes to the branches trigger builds that get published to 1.X/candidate and i usually do a very tiny smoke test before publishing to /stable
[14:51] <jdstrand> mwhudson: ok, so going forward it looks like for 1.18 and 1.19 you just updates the snapcraft.yaml for the source and source-checksum. When 1.20 comes out, would you just branch off of go1.19 to create go1.20 and adjust source and source-checksum?
[14:51] <mwhudson> jdstrand: yes
[14:51] <jdstrand> mwhudson<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is fine, sure
[14:52] <mwhudson> the update.py script does the update for the simple case
[14:52] <jdstrand> mwhudson: what smoke testing to you typically do?
[14:53] <jdstrand> do*
[14:54] <mwhudson> jdstrand: it's very in depth https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5Nvb52tf3t/
[14:54] <jdstrand> mwhudson: ack. I have access to a lot of code, I could try to build it
[14:54] <mwhudson> i also usually make a the new release stable after the first non bug fix point release but that seems to be taking longer to come out with the more recent releases
[14:54] <jdstrand> (for my smoke testing)
[14:55] <mwhudson> so maybe we should just say the new version becomes stable after two weeks or something
[14:55] <jdstrand> mwhudson: so in this case, you stayed on 1.18.5 when 1.19 came out, and you intended to make 'latest' go to 1.19.1 when it came out?
[14:56] <mwhudson> jdstrand: y
[14:56] <jdstrand> mwhudson: I think that policy is not terrible. They've been roughly monthly lately iirc
[14:58] <mwhudson> it's been more than a month since 1.19 hasn't it? or is my sense of time slipping?
[14:58] <jdstrand> mwhudson: want to continue with that or augment it with 'point latest at the first .1 when it comes out or a month after the 1.N is out if there isn't a point release yet, whichever is sooner'?
[14:59] <jdstrand> mwhudson: it has since 1.19, yes, but you didn't point latest at 1.19.1 when it came out. 1.19.2 has been our for a couple/few weeks already
[14:59] <mwhudson> jdstrand: i don't know. what do you think would benefit users the most?
[14:59] <jdstrand> s/out/out/
[14:59] <mwhudson> jdstrand: this is why i am keen to add new maintainers :-) i am losing touch with go upstream
[15:01] <jdstrand> mwhudson: I'd like to stick with your original policy for now, and I can try to help with keeping it current. We can revisit later if needed. I like the policy and think it serves users as it gives a little wiggle room for the occasional breaking change
[15:01] <mwhudson> jdstrand: cool
[15:04] <jdstrand> mwhudson: ok, I think I've got a handle on what you've been doing. I follow upstream fairly closely for security updates. I'll try to do the updates next time. It all seems quite clear but if I run into anything weird, I'll holler (I'll also plan to fyi you that I did it and won't push to stable without talking to you for at least this next one)
[15:04] <mwhudson> jdstrand: yeah that makes sense
[15:04] <mwhudson> jdstrand: tia!!
[15:05] <mwhudson> (i really should have a swing at getting the snap built by upstream's release process)
[15:05] <jdstrand> mwhudson: you mean following their RCs?
[15:07] <mwhudson> jdstrand: i mean having the upstream release process publish the snaps
[15:07] <mwhudson> (probably pretty optimistic but it would sure be nice)
[15:21] <jdstrand> oh, yes, that would be nice :)
[20:10] <ahasenack> any idea why debian (and us) hasn't moved to gnupg 2.3 yet? Because it's not marked as LTS?
[20:11] <ahasenack> it has tpm support (`keytotpm`)
[20:12] <ahasenack> unsure if I would want to use that command, but first I need it available :)
[20:12] <ahasenack> "so the keyfile now
[20:12] <ahasenack> becomes locked to the laptop containing the TPM"
[20:14] <genii> !info gnupg2
[20:14] <genii> hm
[20:15] <ahasenack> 2.3.0 is from 2021/04/07
[20:15] <ahasenack> (april)
[23:00] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley: If you're around, I could use some help, otherwise help from someone else trusted would be appreciated. My Internet connection's upload speed is too slow for me to attach some debdiffs to a Manuskript SRU I'm preparing. They're ~5MB files, and I know Launchpad will time out if I try to upload those with my current upload speed. If I upload them using Matrix so that they show up directly in the chat, can someone with
[23:00] <arraybolt3[m]> decent upload speed attach them to the bug report? The bug in question is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/manuskript/+bug/1989203
[23:00] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1989203 in manuskript (Ubuntu Kinetic) "Manuskript crashes on start" [High, Confirmed]
[23:00] <tsimonq2> I can certainly do some bug report attaching for you, sure. :)
[23:01] <tsimonq2> Feel free to send them via PM.
[23:01] <arraybolt3[m]> Thanks. I have the files uploading now.
[23:01] <arraybolt3[m]> They aren't sensitive, I'm uploading them right into the chat, is that OK>
[23:01] <arraybolt3[m]> s/>/?/
[23:02]  * arraybolt3[m] posted a file: kineticDiff.patch (4499KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/AEIpcOmUTILBuKQKOsiAfpBP >
[23:03] <tsimonq2> Sure, just didn't want to spam the chat. What has been done has been done, I will attach it to the bug report for you, and likely review this soon :)
[23:03]  * arraybolt3[m] posted a file: jammyDiff.patch (4499KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/bftBnjLYJLvANoOczjtozzUW >
[23:03] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah, that makes sense. I'll keep that in mind for next time.
[23:05] <tsimonq2> No worries. Happy to help.


[00:03] <Beladona> oerheks yes. so how can I use it on linux
[00:04] <oerheks> no idea, linux/zfs uses LUKS
[00:05] <oerheks> i find nothing actually :(
[00:06] <Beladona> oerheks when ubuntu is installed with zfs and full disk encryption, it uses luks?
[00:07] <oerheks> indeed
[00:08] <topcat001> Easiest would be to use a FreeBSD VM I think.
[00:08] <oerheks> my bet is that you need to use a freebsd machine, or virtual machine, if possible
[00:31] <u8353v[m]> I **EXT4** formated usb stick. But its not letting me paste the folder i copied.
[00:31] <u8353v[m]> Why is this happening?
[00:31] <u8353v[m]> With **exFAT** it works fine! But it does not copy simbolic links.
[00:31] <u8353v[m]> That's why i decided to format the stick to EXT4.
[00:32] <rbox> you need to fix the permissions
[00:34] <scottg489> How do I get the latest kernel for my release? I'm on 22.04 and my kernel is 5.15, but from my research it sounds like I should be able toget 5.19
[00:34] <scottg489> I've ran apt full-upgrade
[00:35] <rbox> "should be"?
[00:38] <ravage> !hwe
 "you need to fix the permissions" <- exactly that 🙂
[00:38] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-hwe-22.04 jammy
[00:39] <scottg489> ravage: thanks
[00:39] <Bashing-om> !hwe | scottg489 ^^:
[03:58] <guiverc> scottg489, FYI: 6.2 is available via jammy-proposed (ie. "linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04-edge | <IP_ADDRESS>.23~22.04.4   | jammy-proposed   | amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, s390x" which is what HWE moves to next; kernel from 23.04 will be kernel at 22.04.3 if using HWE)
[05:44] <eggbean> Anyone running Ubuntu, could you tell me the output of this please?:
[05:44] <eggbean> eval "$(. /etc/os-release && typeset -p ID)" && echo "'$ID'"
[06:19] <guiverc> eggbean, 'ubuntu'
[06:24] <eggbean> guiverc: thanks
[06:33] <Voordeur> Hello all, I work as a web developer in quite a small company with no sysadmin and I managed to ruin something last Friday on a test environment. I am looking for some guidance. The instance is running Ubuntu 20.04.3. I was adding some environment variables to ~/.bashrc and managed to close vim in an improper way.  I rm'd the swap file, made my
[06:33] <Voordeur> changes again and tried to source ~/.bashrc but got the error "Command 'bin' not found" went out of ssh and came back and was greeted with the same message. Aside from messing with the ~/.bashrc file i am not sure what i could have done wrong even removed the variables to bring the file to how it was before but no luck. Any advice on how to resolve
[06:33] <Voordeur> this?
[06:35] <tarzeau> Voordeur: why still 20.04? can you post your .bashrc before your change and after it?
[06:35] <ppw> what is the corresponding qt5 theme in Ubuntu that fits its native gtk theme?
[06:39] <weedmic> Voordeur: never use vim (unless you know/like it).  I use kate is pretty good and simple (and what I use).  post whatever files you have, before, after, now, like tarzeau says, maybe we can see what happened.
[06:40] <weedmic> post as in somewhere else and share the link.
[06:41] <Voordeur> due to lack of resources I'm afraid there has not really been an opportunity to upgrade it's also an aws ec2 which can't just be upgraded i've heard? also I am not sure if or how i can get the contents of  the file before my changes. this is the file now without the vars https://pastebin.com/yy4yptpr
[06:51] <ppw> nevermind, solved it.
[06:51] <ppw> not self-evident, though.
[06:51] <weedmic> Voordeur: you were editing which .bashrc file?  and are you using snap/core 20
[06:51] <weedmic> best way to do it ppw - i use kde, so didn't have a clue.
[06:53] <Voordeur> weedmic one in "/home/ubuntu/.bashrc", are there different ones? not sure what snap/core 20 is sorry
[06:58] <weedmic> is ubuntu the username?  so you edited only 1 file not the skel (system one) - the easiest fix would be, copy your damaged file to .bashrc.broken (so you still ahve it), create a new user, deleteme (so you remember to delete it later), then open a terminal and copy deleteme's .bashrc to ubuntu's .bashrc.  then see if it works, which it should, copy bashrc to bashrc.fmdeleteme, then create a new bashrc.proposed, editit it by opening it side by side with broken,
[06:58] <weedmic>  and when you are ready, replace the bashrc with .proposed.
[07:03] <Voordeur> Yes, that is the username. Alright I'll give that a try, thanks
[07:04] <weedmic> Just from an admins point of view, I still can't get all my crew to do it, but... always copy a file to .original or .todaysdate before editing.  one never knows what horrible thing will happen right when you need it not to the most.
[07:10] <Senpai69> Hey guys, I'm seeking a Bitcoin VDC (virtual debit card) for online purchases. I want to pay Bitcoin, and get a debit card I can use for online purchases, any ideas?
[07:21] <Voordeur> weedmic thank you, the issue has been resolved :) I'll also keep the copying advice in mind.
[07:24] <Voordeur> I ran both files through a diff checker and this line had crawled into it apparently
[07:24] <Voordeur> "??? from here until ???END lines may have been inserted/deleted"
[07:27] <Senpai69> Has RSA-4096 bit PGP keys been totally replaced by p256, curve 25519, etc? Im using a new PGP tool and it doesnt have any RSA-2048 option at all, but the linux 'gpa' app does only have RSA, up to 3072. What PGP-cipher should I use to both be maximally secure, and compatable with all other PGP clients (so people can import and encrypt to me, decrypt
[07:27] <Senpai69> messages I send to them etc)
[07:34] <forcefull> hey, I just installed kubuntu, and for some reason bluetooth gets automatically turned on when I boot the system. is there a way to turn that off?
[07:35] <Senpai69> yeah that happens to mee to
[07:36] <Senpai69> I think I right-clicked the icon and selected disable bluetooth or something
[07:36] <forcefull> that doesn't work for me (i am on 23.04
[07:37] <forcefull> the other issue I have is that I have the default that windows are getting centered. but when you open multiple windows, they all get shifted to the bottom right a bit :S
[07:40] <forcefull> ahh I will join #kubuntu, is probably better for finding fixes for those stuff
[07:51] <weedmic> forcefull: I am in both rooms.  the only real difference is that most the users here are not using kde - the ubuntu heart remains the same.
[07:59] <forcefull> weedmic: that's why I went to #kubuntu :)
[08:24] <Jymmmmm> Ok, this.is.cool....   Has a tiny screen and control to select which ISO to boot from.
[08:35] <weedmic> i don't seem to remember what secure boot is, so I may have already disabled it.
[08:36] <Jymmmmm> weedmic mobo locked OS essentially
[08:36] <weedmic> is it eefi?
[08:37] <Jymmmmm> ...cryptgraphically that is
[08:39] <weedmic> System Settings > Workspace Behavior > Desktop Effects - uncheck "present windows"
[08:39] <weedmic> wc
[08:40] <Jymmmmm> https://www.minitool.com/lib/secure-boot.html
[08:40] <weedmic> I always do legacy - works the way I want
[08:42] <Jymmmmm> I understand
[08:43] <weedmic> does any os is it do any (so confused by that) - linux have eefi?
[08:49] <Jymmmmm> I'm not sure what EEFI is
[08:49] <Jymmmmm> Did you mean EFI?
[08:52] <weedmic> my bad, UEFI (probably U for universal, I was thinking alltijd)
[09:07] <Jymmmmm> ah ok
[09:07] <Jymmmmm> Yeah, just abbreviated to EFI cause I'm lazy =)
[09:08] <weedmic> I was thinking english for altijd might be everytime - universal seems odd for me.
[09:29] <v1456vqe> I am using the Ubuntu22.04 cloud image to run a custom initramfs script. I see that the script (pre-mount) is called only when I turn on "debug" in the kernel command line.  I found that 20.04 or later, Ubuntu merged changes from grub2 that allows a initrd less boot for faster boot times on cloud images (Ref:
[09:29] <v1456vqe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1901553) Is there more official documentation around this? I am trying to get my script to run on reboot.  Turning on debug seems to be a crude way, I am trying to find the right way to do this
[09:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1901553 in grub2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Improve documentation around initrdless boot" [Undecided, In Progress]
[09:56] <ppw> I want to thank the person who encouraged me to install ubuntu on a usb
[10:16] <Jakov> cannot use arrows to call previous functions in terminal ubuntu! can some one tell how to fix it?
[10:16] <Jakov> https://forum.qt.io/topic/145969/latest-qt-ubuntu-c-based-app-could-not-using-arrows-and-scroll/5?_=1687756371722
[10:35] <weedmic> Jakov: try ctrl+c to breakout of whatever you are in - or open a new terminal
[10:44] <aiena> How to troubleshoot gnoe frezes on ubuntu 22.04?
[10:53] <tekisui> i dunno, let me look
[10:53] <tekisui> have you tried searching on duckduckgo ?
[10:54] <tekisui> gnome freezes ?
[10:54] <tekisui> https://askubuntu.com/questions/455301/how-can-i-restart-gnome-shell-after-it-freezes-or-becomes-unresponsive
[10:57] <aiena> tekisui, the main issues is that I cannt switch to another vt
[10:57] <aiena> I unbound gnomes print screen so now I can use sysrq+ r but that is super agressive and kills everytihng
[10:58] <aiena> I cannot find a way to get into a shell with sysrq to say kill just gnome
[10:58] <tekisui> ah, am just a rookie
[10:58] <tekisui> maybe they know it on an ubuntu forum
[10:59] <tekisui> firefox has a way to use print screen somehow
[10:59] <aiena> well ubuntu disables sysrq by default so adding sysrq was a bit of a blessing but its too agressive
[10:59] <weedmic> ctrl+alt+f3 doesn't bring you to a terminal running at init level 3?  aiena
[10:59] <tekisui> linux is a broken system :)
[10:59] <aiena> gnome disable sysrq shortcuts because it has a cursed alt+printscreen shortcut haha
[11:00] <aiena> so I changed that to ctr+d to override the default
[11:00] <weedmic> sorry, lost me at cursed - i'll take it no, it is disabled in gnome.
[11:00] <aiena> weedmic, when gnome freezes the mouse doesnt move only sysrq seems to work blindly
[11:00] <ID-10-T> plox jus yank power cord...
[11:00] <aiena> weedmic, i mean the alt+ print screen shortcut prevents the alt+sysRq from working so i rebound tthat
[11:18] <pjotter1> Door een bug in systemd werken bindfs mounts in fstab niet. Ook een sytemd-service aanmaken werkt niet. Bindfs wordt niet uitgevoerd of heeft geen root rechten. Welke andere manieren, behalve dan via een systemd-service, zijn er om een start tijdens of na startup te draaien met root rechten?
[11:18] <pjotter1> start moet zijn script
[11:19] <tekisui> ok
[11:19] <aiena> pjotter1, dorry dont know dutch
[11:19] <tekisui> he got a bug
[11:19] <tekisui> even apeldooren bellen
[11:19] <pjotter1> Ah, I'm sorry. I should have taken my question to the dutch ubuntu board!
[11:33] <tekisui> hey yoshi
[11:39] <weedmic> mag ik tutoyeren pjotter1
[11:39] <weedmic> left i c :O
[11:53] <tekisui> hans_:  and gretel
[11:54] <hans_> lel
[11:55] <hans_> tekisui: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1428538/
[11:56] <tekisui> :)
[11:56] <tekisui> you can find many movies on putlocker
[12:05] <elias_a> Please note that this is a global Ubuntu support channel. :)
[12:58] <RQQQ> yooo
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:38] <lubuntu> hi
[13:38] <RQQQ> yo
[13:40] <RQQQ> is anyone here?
[13:40] <RQQQ> anyone listening/?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> just ask your question
[13:44] <lubuntu> here it's me first time using linux, quassel, irc's etc and it's my first ever channel. pardon my intrusion. I don't have any question just messing around.
[13:45] <lubuntu> wait, my nickname just changed from rqqq to lubuntu. :))
[14:00] <tekisui> hey dvx
[14:01] <tekisui> ja sicher
[14:01] <tekisui> aber est is toll
[14:51] <tekisui> hello
[14:53] <geosmile> apt update is giving me this error "E: Conflicting values set for option Signed-By regarding source https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/ jammy: /usr/share/keyrings/docker-archive-keyring.gpg !=
[14:53] <geosmile> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[14:54] <geosmile> "
[14:55] <wontfix[m]> firmware-sof-signed is all arch. Why?
[14:55] <geosmile> wontfix[m], it is an arch machine?
[14:55] <geosmile> i meant an arm machine
[14:56] <wontfix[m]> Same on both.
[14:57] <geosmile> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list - that did the trick
[15:03] <ogra> wontfix[m], because it is firmware (i.e. arch independent binar yblobs that get flashed/uploaded on the fly into hardware)
[15:11] <tekisui> :)
[15:12] <wontfix[m]> The NXP i.MX8* series firmware is arch independent? That chip isn't some MCU/DSP used in external soundcards. That NXP series isn't even usable in QEMU last I checked.
[15:13] <tekisui> oh
[15:18] <tekisui> am use to 16 big soundcard
[15:18] <tekisui> no worries there
[15:18] <tekisui> 16 bit
[15:18] <tekisui> :)
[15:22] <ogra> wontfix[m], why wuld NXP use SOF firmware ? SOF is an intel audio chip
[15:22] <ogra> (used in some laptops)
[15:31] <wontfix[m]> Yes. ARM SoC's are indeed used in some ARM laptops. For the purpose of being an ARM laptop.
[15:32] <wontfix[m]> The DSP core is integrated into the SoC itself.
[15:41] <ogra> wontfix[m], i'm stilly trying to make the connection to your question about firmware-sof-signed ...
[15:42] <ogra> *still
[15:52] <wontfix[m]> Why is the package for all arch instead of split up by arch or by usable arch where applicable.
[16:24] <ogra> wontfix[m], because the files are binary asembly, not arc sepcific at all only specific to the chip they get flashed/run on, like all firmware files (unless you refer to the abuse of the word firmware for actual distro images on some arm boards (i.e. the Pi foundation calls their distro images "firmware" while it is actually an OS))
[16:24] <ogra> *not arch specific
[16:48] <wontfix[m]> Exactly. These are strictly SoC in nature, basically their own platforms.
[16:57] <cambrian_invader> is it possible to disable building i386 on launchpad?
[16:57] <deltreey> so uh, I don't know what part of ubuntu did this (wayland maybe?) but the multi-touch support in ubuntu is fantastic and I love it.
[16:57] <cambrian_invader> I have a build failure since some build dependencies are missing
[16:57] <deltreey> so thanks whoever implemented that
[16:57] <cambrian_invader> but x86_64 builds fine
[16:58] <wontfix[m]> Go to "change details" under the ppa
[16:59] <cambrian_invader> wontfix[m]: thanks; I didn't notice that since I was logged out...
[16:59] <wontfix[m]> I have no idea why i386 is a default still in 2023.
[17:00] <cambrian_invader> do I need to resubmit, or can I just rety the build?
[17:01] <wontfix[m]> Not sure if saving just removes or doesn't continue on next rebuild.
[17:07] <cambrian_invader> if a build is "pending publication" does that mean I need to resolve the failed build, or do I just need to wait?
[17:11] <cambrian_invader> ...I just needed to wait
[17:11] <wontfix[m]> I would force a rebuild tbh but that's just me.
[17:11] <wontfix[m]> Without i386
[17:26] <tekisui> hey remy
[17:53] <spmkde> Anyone around here familiar with tomcat10 and access debugging? The #tomcat channel seems seriously understaffed
[17:56] <tekisui> oh
[17:56] <tekisui> maybe they have a forum
[17:58] <spmkde> tekisui, Thanks, they have a couple of mailing list. One has to sign-up for them though.
[18:12] <taketime> how do I fix following errors ?
[18:12] <taketime> https://pastebin.com/E9Zwjzwg
[18:13] <ravage> try #python ?
[18:13] <taketime45> https://github.com/kiecodes/generate-music
[18:14] <taketime45> https://pastebin.com/s1aMgehS
[18:14] <taketime45> I'm getting following errors when trying to run mgen.py
[18:54] <oerheks> sudo snap connect darktable:removable-media
[19:00] <tekisui> helloe
[19:00] <tekisui> @echo off
[19:06] <tekisui> hey veegee
[19:06] <veegee> yo
[19:07] <tekisui> yo yo
[19:43] <Jakov> I made some log which is extremely large, how can I locate biggest file ?
[19:47] <alkisg> Jakov: what do you mean, do you have multiple files?
[19:48] <Jakov> I dont know place where huge lof file dumped
[19:48] <Jakov> trying sudo find / -size +1000M -ls, but its slow
[19:48] <Jakov> ^ failed
[19:49] <leftyfb> Jakov: sudo apt install ncdu && sudo ncdu /
[19:49] <Jakov> omg  You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:50] <tarzeau> Jakov: gdu is really fast
[19:50] <leftyfb> no faster than du
[19:51] <Jakov> something strange just happened, I just delete two MP4 files over 1GB and stil can not dl 48kb app
[19:51] <Jakov> Need to get 42,8 kB of archives
[19:51] <Jakov> E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[19:55] <genii> Jakov: Whats the result of: ls /boot/vmlin* | wc -l
[19:56] <Jakov> 4
[19:57] <genii> Hm, so not a bunch of old kernels in there which need removing
[19:57] <alkisg> Jakov: what's the output of this: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:58] <Jakov> https://termbin.com/sbsb
[19:59] <tarzeau> leftyfb: it's a lot faster than du
[20:00] <tarzeau> there's a trick to make /boot usage go down drastically: https://github.com/alexmyczko/autoexec.bat/blob/master/config.sys/debian-system-initramfs
[20:00] <alkisg> @Jakov:libera.chat: sudo du -sh /var/log/* ~/.[!.]*
[20:01] <alkisg> Check if you see anything big in there; if not, you'll need to check the whole disk (or at least the whole /home)
[20:03] <Jakov> https://pastebin.pl/view/ac7c127c
[20:03] <Jakov> it must be core dumps / *apport
[20:03] <alkisg> Core dumps are in /var/crash
[20:05] <Jakov> core dumps from gdb
[20:05] <Jakov> there are none
[20:06] <leftyfb> tarzeau: ah, I see it's du rewritten in go, not just a GUI for du. That makes sense
[20:06] <Jakov> -rw-r----- 1 supernova whoopsie  17M Jun 26 22:41 _usr_bin_gdb.1000.crash
[20:06] <Jakov> -rw-r----- 1 supernova whoopsie  19M Jun 22 00:52 _usr_bin_gnome-control-center.1000.crash
[20:06] <Jakov> -rw-r----- 1 supernova whoopsie  47M Jun 25 14:40 _usr_bin_gnome-shell.1000.crash
[20:06] <Jakov> -rw-r----- 1 supernova whoopsie 188M Jun 23 14:01 _usr_bin_nautilus.1000.crash
[20:06] <Jakov> -rw-r----- 1 supernova whoopsie   1M Jun 27 03:41 _usr_bin_sleep.1000.crash
[20:06] <leftyfb> !paste | Jakov
[20:07] <Jakov> sorry, always do next time
[20:08] <alkisg> Jakov: since you can't install any programs, you can continue with `du -sh /home/*` and similar commands, to recurse and find what it is
[20:08] <alkisg> *with sudo
[20:09] <Jakov> it takes long to get output?
[20:09] <Jakov> 94G    /home/supernova
[20:10] <Jakov> 256G Total
[20:10] <Jakov> wait, rest for windows, so its all into dump files
[20:11] <tarzeau> first thing i turn off. automatic bug reporting and crash dumps
[20:13] <Jakov> well, this led to this incident
[20:13] <Jakov> https://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~learn/debugging/modules/gdb_coredumps/
[20:13] <Jakov> $ ulimit -c unlimited
[20:13] <Jakov> and then https://sourceware.org/gdb/onlinedocs/gdb/Core-File-Generation.html -> generate core file
[20:16] <tarzeau> i just remove whoopsie
[20:16] <leftyfb> none of that is recommended nor necessary
[20:16] <leftyfb> if you have /var/crash filling up, you've got bigger problems
[20:17] <tarzeau> yes, layer 8, users
[20:17] <tarzeau> so the only best recommended thing is to get rid of whoopsie
[20:17] <tarzeau> because. well i can't get rid of the users.
[20:17] <Jakov> any advices for me?
[20:18] <Jakov> a lot of hard installs made before, I can not stand reinstalling Ubuntu omg
[20:19] <leftyfb> Jakov: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; ls -l boot/vm* ; lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ; df -h ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:19] <Jakov> cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; ls -l boot/vm* ; lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ; df -h ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:20] <leftyfb> Jakov: type that all into your terminal along with the parens
[20:20] <Jakov> https://termbin.com/k92s
[20:21] <leftyfb> Jakov: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; ls -l boot/vm* ; lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ; df -h ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:21] <leftyfb> Jakov: copy and paste all of that into a terminal, please include the parentheses
[20:23] <quark__> hello, does someone know why the qwertz keyboard layout is wrong and / or how to fix this_
[20:24] <Jakov> https://termbin.com/k92s
[20:24] <elias_a> quark__: Wrong locale?
[20:25] <leftyfb> Jakov: you pasted the same URL twice
[20:25] <tarzeau> Jakov: you're doing something wrong, it should look more like this: https://termbin.com/lpb9
[20:25] <elias_a> quark__: Has it been like that all the time or has the layout changed recently?
[20:26] <quark__> its all the time
[20:26] <quark__> and the right layout is selected
[20:26] <quark__> but the keybinds are wrong
[20:27] <elias_a> quark__: Ok. Odd. Have to think a little...
[20:28] <Jakov> tarzeau, https://pastebin.pl/view/f429af5b
[20:29] <Jakov> sorry its 5:30 AM, exhausted a little
[20:30] <elias_a> quark__: Which key bindings are incorrect and how?
[20:31] <quark__> that would be a bit comlicated to tell can i send a screenshot somehow?
[20:32] <elias_a> quark__: Upload the screenshot to some service and paste the link here?
[20:33] <quark__> elias_a: nevermind so the qwertz layout is selected but the actuall layout is qwerty
[20:34] <elias_a> quark__: What does command locale tell you?
[20:35] <quark__> elias_: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[20:35] <quark__> LANGUAGE=
[20:35] <quark__> LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8"
[20:35] <quark__> LC_NUMERIC="de_DE.UTF-8"
[20:35] <quark__> LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"
[20:35] <quark__> LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8"
[20:39] <elias_a> quark__: Is the layout messed up in both X and in command prompt?
[20:39] <quark__> elias_a: yes
[20:40] <elias_a> quark__: I have no direct answer but this contains useful information: https://askubuntu.com/questions/209597/how-do-i-change-keyboards-from-the-command-line
[20:41] <Jakov> lefttyfb, tarzeau are you with me, masters?
[20:41] <Jakov> leftyfb, any chance it can be done with small blood?
[20:41] <elias_a> quark__: 22.04 related infomation close to the bottom of the page.
[20:43] <elias_a> quark__: Plus there is one odd detail in your locale output. You don't seem to have anything defined in LANUAGE. I for example have LANGUAGE=fi:en
[20:45] <elias_a> quark__: If you have a new installation, check your language settings and install stuff needed for German language as well even if you would use some other language usually. AFAIK that should help.
[20:51] <Jakov> how to locate ulimit files?
[20:52] <quark__> elias_a: Thank you for your help i did find the issue
[20:53] <elias_a> quark__: You're welcome. Was war es?
[20:56] <quark__> elias_a:i clean installed linux today in the installation i selected the german qwertz but after the installation it was changed idk why. Ich habe ehute linux neu installiert und bei dier installation habe ich das deutsche qwertz layout ausgewält aber nach der installation hat es sich geändert , ich weis nicht genau wieso
[20:58] <elias_a> quark__: Alles klar!
[20:59] <elias_a> quark__: Good you got it solved. :)
[20:59] <elias_a> The keyboard problems are familiar to all of us who use several keyboard layouts. ;-)
[21:00] <quark__> elias_a: ah okay haha .but anyways thank you for your help
[21:11] <tekisui> hey Minvera
[21:53] <startbit0> Alguém do Brasil?
[21:53] <tekisui> hola
[21:53] <startbit0> hola
[21:53] <tekisui> buevenido
[21:53] <startbit0> gracias
[21:53] <ravage> !br | startbit0
[21:53] <startbit0> cual finalidad de este chat?
[21:54] <leftyfb> !support | startbit0
[21:54] <tekisui> ajuda-me ubuntu (linux)
[22:08] <axel_> hey, anyone knows bluetooth problems in ubuntu?
[22:09] <ravage> you can an almost unlimited amount of people with  bluetooth problems on google
[22:11] <tekisui> nice
[22:11] <axel_> so , where are you from guys?
[22:11] <tekisui> i bought a bluetooth fm transmitter
[22:11] <tekisui> west germany
[22:13] <mantise> hi. how do i install hp drivers(hplip) for ubuntu?
[22:14] <tekisui> ahh i been there
[22:14] <tekisui> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/
[22:14] <tekisui> think it´s this
[22:15] <mantise> tekisui: ill check. maybe there was an apt install or something
[22:15] <tekisui> then open ctrl-T
[22:15] <tekisui> sh hlip-version run
[22:16] <tekisui> easiest way, is to use the file manager and from there open the terminal
[22:16] <tekisui> then you got the directory the file is in.
[22:17] <krytarik> Well, you should definitely try installing from the official repos first though.
[22:18] <mantise> tekisui: yes i see. on that now
[22:18] <krytarik> !info hplip-gui
[22:18] <tekisui> goodnight
[22:18] <tekisui> may the sudo be with you
[22:18] <mantise> krytarik: that is from the software center ?
[22:18] <krytarik> Yep.
[22:19] <mantise> krytarik: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/install/install/index on this
[22:21] <mantise> note: Defaults for each question are maked with a '*'. Press <enter> to accept the default.
[22:21] <mantise> error: ubuntu-23.04 version is not supported, so all dependencies may not be installed. However trying to install using ubuntu-22.10 version packages.
[22:21] <krytarik> I mean I recently had to resort to installing from the website too, but if the packages provided via the Ubuntu repos work then that'd be better.
[22:25] <mantise> ye, im getting a lot of errors during the web install.
[22:25] <mantise> warning: This installer cannot install 'python3-pyqt4' for your distro/OS and/or version.
[22:25] <mantise> error: Installation cannot continue without this dependency. Please manually install this dependency and re-run this installer.
[22:26] <mantise> krytarik: installed the snap hplip-printer-app now tho
[22:27] <krytarik> Yeah, that sounds good too.
[22:28] <mantise> and i see the printer in my printer settings.. that should be enough ? the printer is on the wifi
[22:32] <mantise> oh. sudo apt-get -y install hplip-gui worked aswell
[22:33] <krytarik> Maybe you should go with one or the other though, not both at once.. >_<
[22:33] <mantise> krytarik: hplip-printer-app is just the driver tho ? no gui app
[22:36] <krytarik> Yeah, I was just about to refer to that.. according to <https://snapcraft.io/hplip-printer-app> it doesn't provide a GUI like the other does, but this may suffice for you.. otherwise all the drivers and additional packages are installed twice and possibly running alongside.
[22:36] <mantise> yes, moved the hplip-gui again, as it bugged
[22:37] <mantise> id need some scanning software tho
[22:40] <mantise> i dont know if its necessary, but as i bought the printer, it says i needed to install HP SMART and register ect, to get the printer working. so i installed that on my wifes laptop, to get the printer on the wifi. guess that wasnt even possible on ubuntu then
[22:45] <krytarik> Well, I certainly didn't need to register with HP to get the printer working over wireless.  And wrt a scanning app, I'm not sure what worked better last, but things like simple-scan and gscan2pdf come to my mind.
[22:48] <mantise> krytarik: well i had to do something to add the wifi network on the printer, i could do that from HP SMART. dont think that was possible from hplip snap
[22:48] <mantise> or the printer settings in ubuntu
[22:49] <mantise> i have a standard app called Document Scanner tho, that reconize the printer, so maybe thats works too
[22:49] <krytarik> In my case it worked by simply pressing the according buttons on the printer and the wireless router.
[22:50] <krytarik> Yeah, I think that's simple-scan.
[22:50] <jeremy31> WPS?
[22:50] <krytarik> Yup!
[22:51] <jeremy31> Once you get an HP connected to the wifi router, the rest is usually painless
[22:51] <natewrench> i like hp printers
[22:51] <natewrench> i get the toner printers cause it can accept non hp ones
[22:52] <mantise> jeremy31: also updating firmware ?
[22:53] <jeremy31> mantise: firmware for a HP printer?
[22:53] <mantise> jeremy31: well, i updated it from my wifes laptop from hp smart.. lol
[22:54] <mantise> it told me there was a firmware update
[22:55] <jeremy31> mantise: Ubuntu isn't needed for that, it probably downloads updates while online
[22:56] <mantise> jeremy31: i see. well the hplip from https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/ didnt work for 23.04.
[22:57] <mantise> but the snap hplip-printer-app driver package from the software center is
[22:58] <jeremy31> mantise: I don't think I ever used the snap
[22:58] <mantise> hplip-gui didnt work aswell. not developed for 23.04 yet i guess ?
[22:59] <mantise> thats the only way i could get it working on 23.04. but maybe thats why you should always use the LTS..
[23:02] <mantise> warning: This installer cannot install 'python3-pyqt4' for your distro/OS and/or version.
[23:05] <mantise> jeremy31: thats when i try to install the web version. how to you install it ?
[23:06] <jeremy31> mantise: I haven't installed anything in Ubuntu for a HP printer to work
[23:07] <mantise> jeremy31: nothing ? just find it thru the printer settings ? the hplip driver from the website, also says its only support for Ubuntu 22.10.
[23:09] <jeremy31> I am using 22.04, once the printer is connected to my network, I can easily add it using the add printer, network printer in printer settings
[23:10] <mantise> jeremy31: i see. i didnt even try to add the printer, before i installed the hplip snap driver package. i should have done that.
[23:10] <axel_> hey, do you know if 4KTUBE Pro App in Ubuntu is legall to use?
[23:12] <tekisui> ?
[23:12] <tekisui> legal is subjective
[23:12] <tekisui> depends on what state you are in
[23:13] <axel_> germany , it shoudl be for downloading videos freom youtube , tiktok etc
[23:14] <tekisui> ach so
[23:14] <tekisui> should be alright
[23:14] <axel_> Ich weiß nicht ob es torrent nutz oder nicht
[23:14] <tekisui> germanie
[23:15] <tekisui> glauben sie nicht alles was sie denken
[23:15] <axel_> wie weißt man dass ein herunterlade programm legal oder nicht ist?
[23:15] <tekisui> hmm
[23:16] <tekisui> well you could ask the internal ministry
[23:16] <tekisui> if you want to know for sure
[23:17] <axel_> Nice , i didnt think about that
[23:18] <tekisui> axel_: https://www.piratenpartei.de/
[23:21] <axel_> Danke


[00:00] <jtaylor> ._.
[00:00] <achiang> nod. looking at changelog in ubuntu, last time we sync'ed was precise
[00:00] <infinity> jtaylor: Did you just want it synced wholesale, or do we have a delta you want to merge/preserve?
[00:00] <jtaylor> I didn't look at it yet
[00:00] <jtaylor> I only fixed two bugs for quantal, I have no history in the package
[00:01] <achiang> perhaps i could persuade janimo to do so, he's made a few uploads...
[00:01] <achiang> s/a few/one/
[00:02] <infinity> achiang: You could possibly talk me into it.
[00:02] <infinity> achiang: But it won't be this evening.
[00:02] <jtaylor> if you do, I'd also like a backport to precise ;)
[00:02] <infinity> achiang: Want to give me a URL to the svn commit of the bit you're interested in, rather than the bug with your patch?
[00:02] <achiang> infinity: yes, you've been a good robot and you need to power down for a few hours while we change your oil
[00:04] <achiang> infinity: let me check what is in unstable. my patch touched an internal API that changed between our version in Q and what is in svn head (or trunk or whatever they call it)
[00:04] <achiang> infinity: so i have 2 patches, one that works w/ubuntu and the one that landed upstream
[00:04] <infinity> Unstable is 3.8.1
[00:04] <achiang> (just trying to save you some time)
[00:04] <infinity> achiang: dget http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/v/valgrind/valgrind_3.8.1-1.dsc
[00:05] <achiang> thanks, that's handy
[00:05] <infinity> ('pull-debian-source valgrind' would do the trick too, I'm still trying to train my fingers to do that)
[00:06] <ScottK> So.  I have this bzr branch that I've pushed to LP.  How to I make a merge request out of it?
[00:07] <infinity> ScottK: Wherezit?
[00:07] <ScottK> https://code.launchpad.net/~kitterman/+junk/ubiquity-encryptcheckbox
[00:07] <infinity> ScottK: You need to use predictable namespacing to make it work.  No junk.
[00:07] <ScottK> Sigh.
[00:07] <ScottK> OK.
[00:07] <infinity> ScottK: bzr push lp:~kitterman/ubiquity/my-fix
[00:07] <ScottK> OK.
[00:07] <infinity> I believe.
[00:07] <achiang> infinity: ok, unstable has the new API, so the version from svn should Just Apply(tm).
[00:08] <infinity> I never use this feature. :P
[00:08]  * ScottK tries.
[00:08] <infinity> ScottK: If the namespace matches, then you magically get LP sorting out ancestry and offering you the MP option.
[00:08] <ScottK> Right.  It made a stacking branch this time, so I think it got it.
[00:08] <ScottK> Thanks.
[00:09] <infinity> achiang: Shiny.  URL me up, I'll drag it out of backcroll.  Food time.
[00:09]  * achiang attempts to find a url to valgrind's svn
[00:09] <xnox> ScottK: do i have something to review and merge =))))?!
[00:10] <infinity> achiang: A pointer to the repo and revision number works too, doesn't need to be a silly web view. :P
[00:10] <achiang> infinity: oh, heh. ok. sorry, "URL" confused me. ;)
[00:10] <ScottK> Depends on if you want to make sure I didn't screw up a Qt .ui file change.
[00:10] <achiang> infinity: email ok or irc preferred?
[00:11] <ScottK> xnox: You should have mail.
[00:11]  * xnox waits for launchpad to generate review diff and finally send mail
[00:12] <ScottK> The .ui file presented correctly in Qt Designer, so I imagine it's correct ....
[00:23] <xnox> ScottK: i'm not entirely familiar with qt format. But I do wonder if this option is displayed correctly in either gtk & kde with a Right-To-Left locale.
[00:23] <ScottK> Good question.
[00:24] <ScottK> Would you leave a comment in the merge proposal.
[00:24] <ScottK> Perhaps Riddell will know (I marked him down as reviewer since it's Qt .ui stuff)
[00:24] <xnox> ScottK: if it doesn't work I open a new bug.
[00:26] <xnox> ScottK: I have been told many times RTL "just works" but I'm not conviced.
[00:29] <slangasek> marrusl: ping
[00:36] <marrusl> slangasek, hey.
[00:36] <slangasek> marrusl: hi - did you see my follow-up questions on gdbM?
[00:36] <slangasek> gdb
[00:36] <slangasek> IWFM
[00:36] <marrusl> slangasek, yes.  thank you kindly.  just haven't had a chance to catch up with it.
[00:36] <marrusl> :)
[00:37] <slangasek> ok cool
[00:37] <slangasek> just making sure you'd seen
[00:37] <slangasek> from my POV, we should be able to consider the SRU verified
[00:38] <marrusl> slangasek, I won't argue with that.  I have a feeling I know what I'm missing.  but I need to go back.
[00:38] <marrusl> technically, well, I take your word for it!
[01:40] <stokachu> slangasek: i think we should mark that gdb one verified as it fulfills what the actual issue is being reported
[01:42] <slangasek> stokachu: yep, done
[01:42] <stokachu> cool man, thanks!
[02:01] <hallyn> slangasek: no, i did rename the upstart job.  in .dfsg.5.
[02:05] <hallyn> ah, and seems to be right now.  at least it's shipped with qemu-system.*.deb.
[03:47] <puff> Evening, I'm looking for the proper channel to discuss something odd that happened when I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.4, to see if I should file a bug report.
[05:11] <slangasek> jelmer: fyi your samba4 sru .changes looks like it was generated on Debian and is missing the bug closure field; also, the setoption conversion from perl to python doesn't look like an SRU-appropriate minimal change.  I'm rejecting the package from the queue; if there's a reason setoption needs to be converted to python instead of just adding a dep on perl-modules, please document this in the appropriate bug report, and in either case pl
[05:11] <slangasek> ... with a correct .changes
[05:38] <mitya57> Is there a way to generate correct .changes on Debian?
[05:40] <slangasek> mitya57: set DEB_VENDOR
[05:53] <mitya57> thanks slangasek
[06:38] <Monotoko> is there any particular reason that the amazon search isn't run through HTTPS?
[09:53] <mlankhorst> slangasek: yay, just need to figure out how two make mesa -dev packages coexist now and xorg package approval and then it should just be maintenance:)
[11:29] <vibhav> If a new version of a package in Debian ONLY introduces a Ubuntu change is merging it useless
[11:29] <vibhav> ?
[11:48] <israeldahl> xnox: are you around?  I wondered if you had any links to fixing those lintian warnings
[11:53] <vibhav> xnox: Do you mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative
[11:53] <vibhav> We have some lintian warnings there
[11:54] <israeldahl> vibhav: xnox was helping me yesterday and noticed the program had some lintian warnings that needed fixed, so now I want to fix them since I have to re-merge the code anyway
[11:55] <israeldahl> vibhav: do you know much about lintian warnings?
[12:59] <ubuntu-tester> Hi people, is there special channel for Unity dev?
[13:00] <ubuntu-tester> or where can I reach Unity team?
[13:02] <ubuntu-tester> found it, sorry for bothering
[13:04] <israeldahl> ubuntu-tester: no bother
[16:32] <ScottK> jamespage: Thanks again for fixing sikuli.  There is an armhf specific FTBFS for sivp that also looks Java'ish.  Could you have a look at that as well?  That's the last blocker for the opencv transition.
[17:29] <OdyX> tkamppeter_: would it be possible to have the printers supported by splix be shown in the Openprinting database ?)
[17:52] <slangasek> mlankhorst: nice!  (well, at least until 6 months from now when we have to do the same thing for the raring stack ;)
[18:08] <mlankhorst> why do you think I used a script :p
[18:08] <mlankhorst> no way I'm going to keep track of all the changes by hand!
[18:26]  * ScottK wonders how many gcc uploads there will be this weekend to ensure powerpc never catches up ...
[19:30] <kees> i want syncpackage to work without gnome-keyring
[19:55] <SpamapS> kees: s/syncpackage/launchpadlib/
[19:55] <SpamapS> kees: actually if there's no gnome keyring it will use the more generic keyring thing
[19:57] <SpamapS> kees: but yeah, its annoying when it finds a gnome keyring but cannot use it because you're actually just ssh'd in
[20:07] <ricotz> hallyn, hi, maybe you are familiar with that problem http://paste.debian.net/plain/215121 -- this is raring armhf ppa builder failing, always on setting up libgtk-3-0
[20:16] <israeldahl> dpkg-source: error: add data/themes/default/icon.png in debian/source/include-binaries if you want to store the modified binary in the debian tarball      anyone know what include-binaries is?
[20:18] <israeldahl> do I have to tar up the source and use that or use a commit?  anyone know where i need to go?
[20:18] <ScottK> israeldahl: Start with man dpkg-source.  Look in the section on format version 3.
[20:21] <israeldahl> ScottK: thanks but what or where is debian/source/include-binaries
[20:22] <ScottK> It would be in the debian directory of the source package.  You may have to create it.
[20:23] <israeldahl> ScottK: Thanks is it a text file that I put file paths into or a directory?  The only thing there is format
[20:24] <israeldahl> I don't mean txt file, sorry... I just mean a file with txt in it
[20:27] <ScottK> include-binaries is a vile
[20:27] <ScottK> file
[20:27] <israeldahl> ScottK: OK, thank you and I just put a path like data/themes/default/icon.png i suppose
[20:28] <ScottK> IIRC, yes.
[20:30] <israeldahl> Thank you immensely!!
[20:35] <israeldahl> ScottK: it worked to get me past the error!  I appreciate your help very much!
[20:35] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[20:52] <hallyn> ricotz: sorry, no.
[21:07] <ricotz> hallyn, i see, since the version the builders are running is older than the current raring one, maybe this is something which got fixed, and i am hoping you can pass that into the right direction
[21:10] <hallyn> ricotz: any chance you could file a bug on that?
[21:11] <hallyn> ricotz: was that an update on an arm box?  an error during a pkg build on builder?
[21:12] <hallyn> multilib pkg upgrade on x86?
[21:12]  * hallyn bbl
[21:12] <ricotz> hallyn, this is building on an official armhf ppa builder
[21:36] <hallyn> ricotz: yikes.  can you paste a link to the full build log on launchpad here?  i'm not sure who supports the arm builders  (stgraber or infinity?)
[21:40] <cjwatson> hallyn: infinity deals with the chroots
[21:40] <stgraber> hallyn: so, my understanding of the armhf PPA builders is that those are essentially armhf chroots running on a x86 precise host or maybe even a precise VM on top of a hardy xen server (like the other PPA builders)
[21:40] <hallyn> ah
[21:41] <stgraber> hallyn: those are pretty different from the distro builders and non-virt PPA that build directly on pandaboards and so don't use any of the crazy qemu-user-static magic
[21:41] <cjwatson> and yes, the armhf PPA builders are emulated
[21:41] <cjwatson> the virtualised ones I mean
[21:42] <stgraber> so it may be that qemu-user-static can be updated in the armhf chroot which may or may not fix the issue, infinity should be able to help with that. If it's a problem with the qemu outside of the chroot, then I guess you'd need to talk to IS
[21:43] <stgraber> in any case, it should be easy to check whether the failure happens with a recent qemu, just create an armhf chroot or container on raring and do the build in there, if it passes, then there's hope that updating the qemu on the builders will fix it, if not, well, that'd be a qemu bug I guess
[21:43] <hallyn> would still be worth first seeing the source pkg which caused this so we can try and reproduce it - though i guess if IS runs the hosts it'll be hit-or-miss on reproducing it anyway
[21:43] <hallyn> ricotz: ^ worth trying as stgraber said
[21:43] <hallyn> probably using a lxc-armhf container on raring :)
[21:44] <stgraber> yeah, lxc-armhf is probably the easier, install lxc and qemu-user-static, then just do: lxc-create -t ubuntu -n builder -- --arch armhf --release raring
[21:52] <ricotz> hallyn, stgraber, i have checked with a raring pbuilder chroot which worked fine here
[21:53] <ricotz> hallyn, and sorry, i canceled the failing builds to free the builders since they didnt stop itself (also not after 2 hours)
[21:53] <ricotz> so no log