[03:19] <ellipsis> except that in firefox...the download stops
[03:19] <ellipsis> and in opera the download keeps going
[03:19] <bazhang> slinkeey, stop that
[03:19] <izinucs> PassionFRUI7E, sorry didn't know.. open ccsm and from in there enable cube
[03:19] <fwaokda> PassionFRUI7E, i like free,
[03:19] <slinkeey> ok
[03:19] <PassionFRUI7E> I enabled cube of course =)
[03:19] <luddite> jordan_U : thanks mate
[03:19] <slinkeey> orry
[03:19] <PassionFRUI7E> 30 bucks.    That game is worth sooo much.
[03:19] <slinkeey> sorry
[03:20] <hotdog003> Slinkeey: Just your background?
[03:20] <J2daosh> ok, another thing im realizing is that my neighbor has an unsecured network. I hop on it when my network is down. but its not showing up in the list of networks
[03:20] <slinkeey> yeah?
[03:20] <ablyss> ellipsis: interesting prob
[03:20] <slinkeey> It looks like a channel without a signal
[03:20] <hotdog003> Slinkeey: Did you choose a different background picture? They change from release to release.
[03:20] <ellipsis> I think this started after I installed the wireless drivers
[03:20] <ellipsis> let me try removing them
[03:20] <hotdog003> Huh.
[03:20] <JoeK> Can I install ubuntu server 8.1.. With a usb wi fi card plugged in? Will it detect and use it?
[03:20] <{Delano}> Hi, I've got Ubunty 8.04 but I want to upgrade to 8.10... how do I do it? Do I need to reinstall?
[03:20] <slinkeey> no... I don't see a background listed that moves around lik emine
[03:20] <slinkeey> it looks like a snowey tv channel
[03:20] <hotdog003> Slinkeey: Does it move? Do you see any icons?
[03:20] <droopsta915> is there any software that can trouble shoot my computer?
[03:20] <slinkeey> I see icons
[03:21] <overlordpuppy> I'm having trouble getting my bluetooth headset to have playback.
[03:21] <izinucs> JoeK, if it doesn't detect it you'll have to install the restricted extras package.. not sure if that is on the cd or now.
[03:21] <izinucs> *not
[03:21] <slinkeey> it is like a video of a staticy tv as my background
[03:21] <PassionFRUI7E> At 6k hours and 30 USD I got 200 hours to the dollar.  Movies are .05 hours to the dollar.
[03:21] <JoeK> Delano, you should be able to get 8.1 from the update manager
[03:21] <PassionFRUI7E> Tada!
[03:21] <hotdog003> Slinkeey, try opening a terminal and typing "killall nautilus" and your background *should* be refreshed.
[03:21] <formode_> Does Empathy IM support voice chat?
[03:21] <bazhang> PassionFRUI7E, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <PassionFRUI7E> Sure.
[03:21] <{Delano}> JoeK, okay... how big is it?
[03:21] <slinkeey> i tried that
[03:21] <PassionFRUI7E> I reask, what's the procedure for seeing the 3d cube?
[03:22] <slinkeey> sometimes my background looks like it is picking up a tv station
[03:22] <PassionFRUI7E> I have everything enabled, it just seems that I'm forgetting something about this small | |.
[03:22] <bazhang> !cube
[03:22] <slinkeey> I can make out some faint tv show
[03:22] <bazhang> PassionFRUI7E, open ccsm
[03:22] <meyos> passion: did install the compiz-manager?
[03:22] <PassionFRUI7E> Yes yes it's open.
[03:22] <raven> lololol, slinkeey?
[03:22] <slinkeey> not often though
[03:22] <raven> slinkeey, do u use a CRT?
[03:22] <bazhang> PassionFRUI7E, then go to general settings
[03:22] <slinkeey> no
[03:22] <JoeK> Delano, first you should apply all available updates. Then the update manager should show you ubuntu 8.1 is available. I dont know how much it downloads to upgrade from an older version
[03:22] <hotdog003> Slinkeey: That is very strange. To be honest, I don't know how to fix it. Do you have a TV tuner card? Are you running MythTV? Perhaps if you plug a cable in, what would happen?
[03:22] <PassionFRUI7E> There.
[03:23] <slinkeey> I do have an ati all in wonder
[03:23] <bazhang> check under virtual horizontal desktops iirc
[03:23] <bazhang> set to 4
[03:23] <raven> slinkeey, do u 1. have a tv card, 2. use a tv as a monitor, or 3. have anything but ur pc hooked to the monitor
[03:23] <slinkeey> maybe the tv tuner on that is trying to be the background
[03:23] <jhalstead> when I installed my system this last time I did a default install and now I have a swap partition I'm not using.  I assume I can remove it from fstab and repartition the space it will work like I expect it to. (remove swap like it never existed)  Am I missing anything thing with this logic that I need to know before attempting?
[03:23] <hotdog003> Hmm. Maybe if you... hmm. Very strange. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking
[03:23] <hotdog003> but I don't know why.
[03:23] <hotdog003> Very strange.
[03:24] <slinkeey> my pc is hooked up to the monitor
[03:24] <slinkeey> I can still use it
[03:24] <PassionFRUI7E> Ah that makes sense.
[03:24] <bazhang> then initiate
[03:24] <slinkeey> I sai djust the background look like tv
[03:24] <bazhang> check the keybinding for that
[03:24] <slinkeey> not the whole ppicture
[03:24] <PassionFRUI7E> KK.
[03:24] <PassionFRUI7E> Understood.
[03:25] <droopsta915> passion: go to system > preference > advanced desktop effects and that will show u the options u want to setup.
[03:25] <JohnWittle> If I use the "create bootable thumb drive" option when booted from the PPC version of Ubuntu, will it create a powerPC version of ubuntu on the USB drive?
[03:25] <fwaokda> how to i uninstall something that I've installed via the repos?
[03:25] <JoeK> So can someone help me with ubuntu server 8.1 install?
[03:25] <hosstest> anyone know why my nautilus is nearly crawling?  I have the update manager window up, with updates but every time I focus over the window it just hangs?
[03:25] <usser> JohnWittle, yes
[03:25] <Louis> fwaokda:  sudo aptitude remove packagename
[03:25] <fwaokda> thanks
[03:26] <PassionFRUI7E> I have no advanced desktop effects menu.
[03:26] <JohnWittle> usser: is there any way to instal the i286 version from a PPC computer?
[03:26] <Louis> fwaokda:  or sudo aptitude remove --purge packagename     that's if you want to remove all configurations as well
[03:26] <_stink_> anyone seen something like this before?: i have a machine with sshd and vnc server running. i can get to both services and see both open via nmap, but only from 2 of my machines w/i my home network. from one of my machines, though, both services won't respond, and nmap shows them as "filtered".
[03:26] <PassionFRUI7E> Hm, the cube isn't initiating.  I have 4x1 desktops.
[03:26] <_stink_> what's weirder is that this one machine was able to connect *once*, but can't any more.
[03:26] <PassionFRUI7E> output set to one big cube, most settings maxed
[03:26] <usser> JohnWittle, without downloading the entire iso? no
[03:26] <slinkeey> I want to run Ubuntu PPC on my IBM iSeries (AS400) currently running SLES
[03:26] <hosstest> its almost like, my left click does nothing.
[03:27] <JohnWittle> usser: I'm fine with that, but i'm not very good with the fdisk command, and i'm on a mac
[03:27] <hotdog003> Hey, I have a problem. My hostname is set to "localhost.localdomain" on bootup and not "northbound" like it should be. What gives? Here's my /etc/hosts and such: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/74581/
[03:27] <JohnWittle> i can only boot the PPC version of ubuntu
[03:27] <akorpija> hey guys does anybody know how i can get compiz working on 8.10...i have intel 945gma integrated graphics card, but when i try looking up the driver in synpatics it doesnt find anything...and when i try to use Extra or Normal desktop effects it tells me: Desktop Effects could not be enabled
[03:27] <droopsta915> passion gimme a sec
[03:27] <JohnWittle> but i want to be able to boot ubuntu on an intel computer from my flash drive
[03:27] <PassionFRUI7E> Thanks droopsta915.
[03:27] <izinucs> PassionFRUI7E, go to System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects and crank it up to the middle or highest setting.
[03:27] <usser> JohnWittle, install unetbootin, it will make the entire process insanely easy
[03:27] <bullgard4> hosstest: What do you mean by "nearly crawling" in Standard Emglish?
[03:28] <PassionFRUI7E> Odd, no buttons are selected.
[03:28] <JohnWittle> is that on macports or should i google?
[03:28] <bullgard4> hosstest: What do you mean by "nearly crawling" in Standard English?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> JohnWittle: I personally doubt that the installer works for PPC
[03:28] <JohnWittle> what do you mean?
[03:28] <PassionFRUI7E> K now what?
[03:28] <droopsta915> passion: install Advanced Desktop Effects Setting Compiz configuration settings manager also.
[03:28] <izinucs> PassionFRUI7E, ctrl+alt+click left mouse and drag
[03:29] <JohnWittle> Jordan_U: why would that be?
[03:29] <hosstest> bullgard4:  Like, for instance, my cursor looks like the text cursor, the whole session is nearly unresponsive.
[03:29] <hosstest> bullgard4:  I click on stuff, and nothing happens. It doesnt get highlighted or anything.
[03:30] <hosstest> bullgard4:  Everything seems frozen.  I hard rebooted once already.
[03:30] <JohnWittle> usser: unetbootin is not available for mac
[03:30] <usser> JohnWittle, i dont think theres a mac version of unetbootin or ppc for that matter, if u have access to a windows machine it works on windoows
[03:30] <Jordan_U> JohnWittle: PPC is not fully supported any more so my guess would be that the flash drive installer on PPC is the exact same code as the one for x86 just compiled for PPC, so you might be able to make a bootable intel flash drive but I doubt there is code for dealing with yaboot ( the bootloader used for PPC )
[03:31] <JohnWittle> if I had access to a windows machine i would just boot intel ubuntu
[03:31] <bullgard4> hosstest: I presume that you mingled with you configuration. Otherwise I have never heard that this happens. So I can only advise that you de-install the package and re-install it.
[03:31] <JohnWittle> Jordan_U: what do you mean?
[03:31] <genii-around> JohnWittle: Did you ask in #ubuntu-ppc   ?
[03:31] <JohnWittle> genii-around: will now
[03:31] <bullgard4> hosstest: I presume that you mingled with your configuration. Otherwise I have never heard that this happens. So I can only advise that you de-install the package and re-install it.
[03:32] <hosstest> Is it possible that my right click has become Unbound or something?
[03:32] <Roasted> how can I run a fsck on a device that ubuntu doesn't even recognize? I can't get my flash drive to respond in ubuntu, but it works in vista just fine. Someone on the forums said about doing a fsck but I'm not sure how if ubuntu doesn't recognize my flash drive.
[03:32] <JohnWittle> genii-around: 13 users as opposed to 1407 :D
[03:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Back after logoff
[03:33] <genii-around> JohnWittle: Someone still may know
[03:33] <jeffrae> hi
[03:33] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm redefaulting my controls.
[03:33] <jeffrae> i am using Xchat...
[03:33] <jeffrae> how do I make the users diplay
[03:33] <kindofabuzz> I have no sound in Banshee. sound works fine in all other apps. i've tried everything I can think of. any ideas?
[03:33] <fernando> ubuntu.pt
[03:33] <jeffrae> I have to click a dropdown to show them
[03:34] <tsrk> How can I check what hostname my IP resolves to?
[03:34] <jeffrae> Or is there anything nicer then xchat?
[03:34] <PassionFRUI7E> pidgin ftw.
[03:34] <meyos> what does this mean? im trying to install updates and get this, please look at pastebin---http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/74613/
[03:34] <rhce7321> tsrk: host `hostname`
[03:34] <usser> JohnWittle, actually now that im looking at that built-in create bootable usb program
[03:34] <LF|Irssi> jeffrae: type /set    theres 100 options there, one of them permanently sets the nick list :)
[03:34] <tsrk> rhce7321, does that actually check what my IP resolves to or just check what my hostname is set to?
[03:34] <Great_Gatsby> i have mozplugger and mozilla-mplayer installed but they wont work
[03:34] <usser> JohnWittle, it lets you select the iso file from which u want to create a usb thumb. so yes it will work with i386
[03:34] <Great_Gatsby> i have it set to them in firefox
[03:35] <usser> JohnWittle, but u'll have to download entire iso of i386 ubuntu
[03:35] <BlooBay> once I have KDE installed in addition to Gnome, how do I add it to the session manager for selection at login?
[03:35] <hosstest> okay, I just tried to install Updates with the Update Manager, and it told me that a malicious program might be preventing me from doing something, "Could not grab mouse, Try again"/
[03:35] <DiiPhantom> question, in proftpd im adding a user and there is a space to fill in: "shell: /dev/null"
[03:35] <hosstest> wtf does this mean?
[03:35] <luddite> hi any ideas on the lowest resource intensive word processor that has spellcheck?
[03:35] <Great_Gatsby> instead i just get this white page with a green triangle in it for the play button
[03:35] <DiiPhantom> what goes there?
[03:35] <akorpija> anybody want to help me try to get my compiz working??
[03:35] <JohnWittle> usser: I don't mind
[03:36] <DiiPhantom> akorpija: whats up?
[03:36] <LeonSquall> ...
[03:36] <rhce7321> tsrk: It does 2x dns lookups: hostname does a fwd, then host does a revers on the fwd reurned by hostname
[03:36] <JohnWittle> Does the installer work when running off of a copy of ubuntu booted off of a CD?
[03:36] <jeffrae> LF|Irssi: thanks
[03:36] <tsrk> rhce7321, ok, thanks, it gave me "Host hostname not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[03:36] <tsrk> "
[03:37] <jeffrae> there are a ton
[03:37] <jeffrae> I will have to figure out what one does it..
[03:37] <hosstest> please, someone.  What does it mean when trying to Update with the Update Manager when it tells me that "A malicious program could be preventing me from doing something, Could not grab mouse".
[03:37] <droopsta915> does ubuntu have something similar to a restore point?
[03:37] <Priswell> For the past 2 days I've been getting an error message in Firefox whenever I type an address into the address bar: ASSERT: ***Search:_installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:Ensure_Warn(false,_installLocation:  . . .and there's more. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[03:37] <rhce7321> tsrk: did you include the back-ticks?  They are not quotes.
[03:37] <LF|Irssi> jeffrae: have you found the nick list in the view menu ?
[03:37] <Suhail> So does anyone know how to change the system clock?
[03:38] <akorpija> uhh
[03:38] <tsrk> rhce7321, oh, nope, that's probably the problem, thank you
[03:38] <akorpija> this is weird but it actually just randomly started working.................
[03:38] <LF|Irssi> Dont give up on xchat though, i know it's a mess by default, but once its all set up, it is a very nice IRC client , so hang in there :)
[03:38] <Guest84533> hi
[03:38] <akorpija> i've rebooted, restarted X, logged out and back in enough times, and now it just happens to be working.............
[03:38] <meyos> why cant i login to my laptop?
[03:39] <Elda> meyos, what are you logged into now then?
[03:39] <DiiPhantom> lol
[03:39] <meyos> elda:im in safe mode
[03:39] <jeffrae> nope
[03:39] <tsrk> rhce7321, that still gave me the same error but when I used "host [my ip]" it worked
[03:39] <jeffrae> LF|Irssi: nope
[03:40] <LF|Irssi> hmm
[03:40] <Elda> safe mode.... windows? >.>
[03:40] <BlooBay> only safe mode for windows is MODE OFF!!!!
[03:40] <Elda> pfff
[03:40] <LF|Irssi> jeffrae: unfortunatly i dont have xchat on hand to help much further :(
[03:40] <rhce7321> tsrk: does "hostname"  (quotes this time - don't use them...) give you the name you expect?
[03:40] <jeffrae> its cool
[03:40] <JohnWittle> rofl. this is bizarre. I am downloading the same file with the same name from bittorrent and from firefox at the same time
[03:40] <Elda> I enjoy Ubuntu but I'm smart enough to understand that windows has it use :>
[03:40] <JohnWittle> why isn't ubuntu confused?
[03:40] <jeffrae> LF|Irssi:  its cool
[03:41] <hosstest> I need help, my mouse is frozen, when trying to do updates with the Update Manager, It tells me, "Cannot grab mouse, pleae try again".
[03:41] <meyos> my bad, fail safe gnome
[03:41] <tsrk> rhce7321, no, it gives the name on the local network
[03:41] <hornet> to change system clock type sudo date dd/mm/00:00/2008
[03:41] <Elda> No idea meyos :>
[03:41] <tsrk> rhce7321, may I pm you with some questions about networking?
[03:41] <Louis> is there a way to tune ubuntu server for even more speed?
[03:42] <rhce7321> tsrk: only 2-3 mins... my lunch-break is closing.
[03:42] <hosstest> how do I re-install a package from the command line?
[03:43] <Guest84533> Hi all
[03:43] <Guest84533> May I have some help»?
[03:43] <meyos> i cant login, i type user name and password, then the screen goes back to login
[03:43] <Guest84533> I upgraded my sytem to 8.04
[03:43] <Guest84533> Now I have not anymore my scanners available
[03:45] <JohnWittle> Guest84533: Could you give further information?
[03:45] <droopsta915> im meyos my laptop is going to restart and meyos logging off.
[03:45] <droopsta915> i dont know why the laptop doesnt login, it was fine a few days ago
[03:47] <jlc> anyone know how to stop rhythmbox from opening when a cd is inserted
[03:47] <jlc> I had check, yes do that awhile back and now I dont :)
[03:48] <nibsa1242> is it necessary to reduce file name length when burning a dvd to be read on a windows system?
[03:49] <droopsta915> when i start the laptop i type username and password, [enter] then i get a screen that says, enter the name of the host you want to log into [enter] i type the username again, then i get sentto the log in screen.
[03:50] <droopsta915> is there a way to restore my laptop to an erlier date?
[03:51] <Louis> anybody know when ubuntu home server is expected to be released?
[03:51] <usser> Louis, eh?
[03:51] <raven> i didnt know there was a ubuntu server
[03:51] <raven> nor do i know why there would be, since u can install whatever u want on the normal edition
[03:51] <usser> Louis, whats the point of that?
[03:51] <jlc> there is a server addition
[03:51] <mrpockets> unless you're on a domain, remote-desktop won't work right?
[03:52] <raven> mrpockets, no
[03:52] <raven> it works on any network
[03:52] <jlc> doesn't come with desktop and has some server packages avaiable for install during the cd install
[03:52] <mrpockets> in a p2p
[03:52] <mrpockets> ?
[03:52] <raven> more specific?
[03:52] <mrpockets> or "workgroup"
[03:52] <raven> yes
[03:52] <elkbuntu> hrm, what's the magic word to restart the sound stuff these days
[03:52] <raven> i use it in a workgroup all the time
[03:52] <mrpockets> strange
[03:52] <raven> y strange
[03:53] <binarymutant> usser, the server edition doesn't install a window manager and keeps the total memory used down, which is great for a server
[03:53] <binarymutant> I type to slow
[03:53] <Louis> usser:  apparently there's an ubuntu home server project in the works... i dunno if this is the right channel to be asking this question lol
[03:53] <usser> binarydigit, yea... he was talking about home server
[03:53] <binarymutant> whats the point in ubuntu "home" server idk
[03:53] <Louis> usser:  it's supposed to be a kind of a halfway between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop edition... basically ubuntu server with a lightweight gui and some default graphical apps
[03:54] <binarymutant> o
[03:54] <raven> so xubuntu?
[03:54] <raven> xD
[03:54] <usser> Louis, yea i just looked it up... dunno what will end up looking like and if it has anything to add to server edition at all. i mean server edition with ebox is pretty damn user friendly
[03:54] <binarymutant> lol
[03:54] <DiiPhantom> wao, anyone knows where i can go to get help with proftpd? this is veryyyyyyyyy different from windows
[03:54] <gizmobay> I went to the samba site and it says it's released 3.2 but the repo has 3.0.28. Does anyone know why the repo is behind?
[03:54] <binarymutant> to many knock offs of knock offs
[03:54] <binarymutant> s/to/too
[03:55] <raven> gizmobay, cuz repo maintainers r lazy?
[03:55] <usser> gizmobay, only stable packages make it into repo and once ubuntu is released no major updates are made ie 3.0 to 3.2 is considered major
[03:56] <raven> u  can probably update it urself if u like, gizmobay
[03:56] <gizmobay> okay, thanks for the info
[03:56] <Louis> usser:  is ebox anything like webmin?
[03:56] <raven> Louis, ebox replaces webmin, from what i hear
[03:56] <raven> tho i never used either
[03:56] <gizmobay> just find a package or compile?
[03:56] <raven> gizmobay, likely a compile, but thats pretty easy..
[03:56] <raven> u might find a debian package
[03:56] <raven> duno
[03:57] <usser> Louis, yea pretty much lacks lots of features of webmin but it only makes it easier to use for general-purpose stuff. for something complicated i'd always drop to command line
[03:57] <droopsta915> can someone help me figure this problem out please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/74620/
[03:57] <fiXXXerMet> If I have ripped a DVD to my computer ( I have the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders), what can I use to convert it to a .avi file?
[03:57] <gizmobay> okay, 3.0 works well just kinda of wondering why no 3.2
[03:57] <c0re_> LOL @ <raven> gizmobay, cuz repo maintainers r lazy?
[03:57] <raven> fiXXXerMet, VLC can do that
[03:57] <binarymutant> droopsta915, is that a real copy paste?
[03:57] <usser> DiiPhantom, why dont u use gproftpd. its a gui frontend to configure proftpd
[03:57] <raven> c0re_, iunno, was joking rly :p
[03:58] <Louis> usser:  yeah i've gotten to that point too, even with webmin.  is ebox in the repos?  id love to try it out
[03:58] <fiXXXerMet> raven: ah - let me try it
[03:58] <binarymutant> droopsta915, because it says 'settin'
[03:58] <usser> Louis, yes it is
[03:58] <Doctor-Steve> im trying to install Vmware, its asking for gcc-4.2.3 instead of gcc-4.2.4.... how do i install gcc-4.2.3?
[03:58] <raven> i dont see why that would be the case, but assuming ur right u can compile from source
[03:58] <droopsta915> no i typed it sorry, its on my laptop and i typed it into the paste bin using computer
[03:59] <raven> Doctor-Steve,
[03:59] <usser> Doctor-Steve, just ignore that warning. it works with gcc-4.2.4 just fine
[03:59] <DiiPhantom> usser:  lol im very confused with it, im used to serv-u
[03:59] <Doctor-Steve> usser, :)
[03:59] <izinucs> Doctor-Steve, have you installed "build-essential" .. usually that's all you need to install vmware server
[03:59] <formode_> Seeking way to voice chat with someone on the AIM chat network, or via Jabber. Anyone know?
[03:59] <hosstest> I need help pls, my mouse is unresponsive within Nautilus.  I left click on objects and nothing happens.  I have Update Manger up ealier, and it would not install updates because "Could no grab mouse, please try again".
[03:59] <hosstest> what does this mean?
[03:59] <Doctor-Steve> usser, its just last time i did it, it crashed every 15 seconds...
[03:59] <Ikyn_> So I downloaded and installed the linux drivers for the ATI card in my laptop. Once I restarted and rebooted, it's having problems, and when I try to start in low-res mode, it never actually gets to the desktop. Is there anyone that can tell me how I reverse the process?
[03:59] <phuzion> I installed Vista onto a partition on my laptop, and want to have Grub back so I can get to my Ubuntu partition.  What's the best way to go about putting Grub back into the MBR?
[04:00] <usser> DiiPhantom, thats why u should learn how to configure with just the .conf file. Frontends change config file will always be there :)
[04:00] <droopsta915> here i fixed the type-o's http://paste.ubuntu.com/74624/
[04:00] <raven> phuzion: boot to a live cd and install grub, google for how to install grub
[04:00] <izinucs> !grub | phuzion
[04:00] <raven> or u can do that
[04:00] <raven> :p
[04:00] <phuzion> izinucs, thanks
[04:00] <DiiPhantom> i have no idea what ur talking about lol
[04:00] <droopsta915> this is the ~/.xsession-errors file
[04:00] <izinucs> phuzion, np
[04:00] <binarymutant> droopsta915, there should just be comments in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL I'll show you what mine looks like
[04:01] <Ikyn_> How do I get to the command line before unbuntu GUI boots up?
[04:01] <hosstest> I sweat to God, I am about 3 secs from scrubbing my HD and installing Winblows.  I seriously need help.
[04:01] <hosstest> *swear
[04:01] <binarymutant> droopsta915, http://paste.ubuntu.com/74625/
[04:01] <usser> hosstest, just restart X server
[04:01] <jlc> Ikym select failsafe instead of default kernel
[04:01] <NewFAQs> HOSTEST LOL
[04:01] <NewFAQs> WELCOME TO THE CLUB
[04:01] <gaelfx> My computer recently informed me that I had broken packages related to a failed install of compiz-core, so I rm'ed the package and tried to reinstall via apt-get, but I always get the same error that a parse error occurs when it's reading the dependencies file, no matter how many times I try re-downloading, I get the same error. How can I fix this problem?
[04:01] <FloodBot2> NewFAQs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <NewFAQs> :D
[04:01] <hosstest> usser: how?
[04:01] <genii> Ikyn_: Choose "console login" from the login sessions available
[04:01] <usser> hosstest, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE but it will log you out
[04:02] <NewFAQs> LOL, I am about to switch back to windows also, atleast it runs right and doesnt take command lines to install things
[04:02] <akio> wow
[04:02] <droopsta915> binarymutant: ill go into fail safe mode and see what i can fix, thanks
[04:02] <binarymutant> np
[04:02] <akio> NewFAQs:
[04:02] <akio> what do you need help with?
[04:02] <hosstest> usser:  that did nothing
[04:03] <jlc> Ikyn_: "recovery mode" kernel not failsafe.. :)
[04:03] <formode_> Can one voice chat with Jabber?
[04:03] <droopsta915> sorry, whats the path for that file?
[04:03] <binarymutant> NewFAQs, windows does have a terminal
[04:03] <binarymutant> NewFAQs, and a lot of ppl use it
[04:03] <binarymutant> droopsta915,  /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL
[04:03] <izinucs> NewFAQs, I just tried to reinstall windows on my wife's machine that I had to rebuild.. It didn't like the fact that the cdrom and hd were on the same ide channel but ubuntu didn't have any problem.. messed with settings, ram sticks etc for an hour trying to figure it out.. things are just different in both camps.. time to learn!
[04:03] <hosstest> My mouse seems to be frozen, it is unresponsive when I left click on desktop items.  I had Update Manager open earlier and when I tried to update it told me that "Cannot grab mouse, try again later"/
[04:03] <usser> hosstest, nothing at all?
[04:04] <hosstest> has anyone seen this?
[04:04] <usser> hosstest, did it drop you back to login screen?
[04:04] <gaelfx> hosstest: see it
[04:04] <NewFAQs> wow i do like ubuntu
[04:04] <hosstest> usser: yes
[04:04] <NewFAQs> but windows is easier
[04:04] <binarymutant> NewFAQs, then use it
[04:04] <usser> hosstest, and u could login?
[04:04] <hosstest> usser: yes
[04:04] <manguy> What is the difference between drwxrwxr-x and drwxrwsr-x ?
[04:04] <usser> hosstest, and same problem?
[04:05] <jlc> NewFAQs: windows doesn't come with synaptic or gnome-app-install and the ability to select 20K packages with a mouse all for free does it?
[04:05] <\Kira> I get a segmentation fault when trying to run Unreal tournament on linux
[04:05] <hosstest> usser:  yes, I have a mouse cursor, but nothing happens when I click on objects.
[04:05] <fiXXXerMet> raven: For the Encapsulation option, mpeg-ts, mpeg-ps, mpeg 1, asf/wmv, mp4, other options, ??
[04:05] <raven> mp4 i'd recommend, or mpeg-ts
[04:05] <usser> hosstest, hm... ok do ctrl+alt+F1
[04:05] <binarymutant> jlc, actually windows will have something like synaptic I think. I think they are calling it cloud computing or something
[04:05] <formode_> Is it possible to use Voice Chat on jabber servers?
[04:05] <usser> hosstest, it should give u a login prompt in text mode
[04:06] <jlc> binarymutant: will or has.... for over a decade?
[04:06] <izinucs> binarymutant, not the same thing..
[04:06] <jlc> cloud computing... is more of internet apps
[04:06] <hosstest> usser: I get the log in
[04:06] <jlc> not the same thing
[04:06] <binarymutant> izinucs, is it not? I thought you paid money and then were able to download whatever program but I haven't looked into it
[04:06] <usser> hosstest, alright use your account to login
[04:06] <hosstest> usser: then?
[04:06] <usser> hosstest, once u get to prompt
[04:07] <usser> hosstest, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:07] <jlc> and apparently you missed the word FREE
[04:07] <scientes> my linux compiles all fail in postinstall line 1186
[04:07] <izinucs> binarymutant, oh.. yea.. the cloud has all the programs available.. like a store.. pay money.. download.. install.. run.. like I said. not the same thing..
[04:07] <usser> hosstest, once u did that do sudo mkdir /home/backup
[04:08] <usser> hosstest, sudo cp -R $HOME /home/backup
[04:08] <binarymutant> izinucs, i dunno it sounds just like a proprietary synaptic
[04:08] <hosstest> usser: Tells me that gdm is already running and that is it aborting
[04:08] <soundprizm> Hello... I'm having a problem with my WLAN card on my laptop (PCI)  It is not recognized with lspci.  I opened the laptop up and re-inserted the card.  Still nothing...  Anyone have any ideas, or a channel that could help?
[04:08] <usser> hosstest, just do that sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop again
[04:08] <RenzoreK> I have a mouse with a button on the side, and I want to assign this button to the "area zoom" feature in Compiz so I can make reading easier. How do I find out what button this is assigned to? (It will not assign if I click it when the editor is open)
[04:09] <hosstest> usser: Okay, then what?
[04:09] <usser> hosstest, once u did that do sudo mkdir /home/backup
[04:09] <usser> hosstest, sudo cp -R $HOME /home/backup
[04:09] <usser> hosstest, this will backup your settings and whatever files u have
[04:09] <droopsta915> binarymutant: the file looks the same.
[04:09] <greenhog> how do i setup dns nameservers? i cant connect to any remote host..
[04:09] <usser> hosstest, just make sure u have enough space on the harddrive
[04:10] <Louis> dumb question, because i really should know which version of ubuntu i just installed... but is tehre a way to determine the version via CLI?
[04:10] <binarymutant> droopsta915, ? are you sure?
[04:10] <usser> Louis, lsb_release -a
[04:10] <hosstest> usser: what was the cp command again?
[04:10] <usser> hosstest, sudo cp -R $HOME /home/backup
[04:11] <binarymutant> droopsta915, what happens if you remove /ssh ?
[04:11] <Ikyn_> So, recently I upgraded my ATI mobility drivers from the Synaptic. When I rebooted it gets put into low-graphics mode, and won't boot to the GUI. Is there a way I can revert back to the original drivers using the LiveCD / rootshell prompt?
[04:11] <hosstest> usser: copying atm
[04:12] <Ikyn_> XORG gives me the error : "(EE) No input driver/identifier specified"
[04:12] <usser> hosstest, cool
[04:12] <Louis> usser: thanks
[04:12] <JohnWittle> So... I have a CLI question that i've been too embaressed to ask
[04:12] <hosstest> usser: am I going to have to re-install Ubuntu?
[04:12] <JohnWittle> when I hit "ping google.com" and accidently forget to set a parameter to end it
[04:12] <usser> hosstest, no
[04:12] <JohnWittle> what exactly do I do to get it to stop?
[04:12] <droopsta915> binarymutant: should i remove it from the same file?
[04:13] <Ikyn_> crtl+c
[04:13] <usser> hosstest, shouldnt
[04:13] <JohnWittle> oh
[04:13] <greenhog> to browse the web..is there anything else i need to do besides entering dns names servers into resolv.conf?
[04:13] <Louis> how on earth did i install hardy heron... lolwut?  I upgrade by "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" correct?
[04:13] <JohnWittle> lol
[04:13] <binarymutant> droopsta915, well don't remove it, but do you have a /ssh file or folder?
[04:13] <hotdog003> JohnWittle: Control + C
[04:13] <hosstest> usser: what is my next step after it gets done copying?
[04:13] <gaelfx> I am having problems with compiz-core, every time I try to redownload it and install it, I get the same error: http://pastebin.com/d67d6818c
[04:13] <jlc> Ikyn_: try and boot into rescue mode
[04:13] <Ikyn_> jlc: done
[04:13] <jlc> Ikyn_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:13] <hotdog003> Louis: No, use update-manager instead.
[04:13] <jlc> and change Driver "fglrx" to "vesa"
[04:13] <JohnWittle> Yeah< i realize now :D
[04:13] <JohnWittle> and i feel pretty stupid
[04:13] <droopsta915> yes
[04:14] <hektic> I have a question
[04:14] <jlc> Ikyn_: vi or nano, not sure what you are familiar with
[04:14] <hotdog003> !help > me
[04:14] <Louis> hotdog003:  this is ubuntu server
[04:14] <Louis> no GUI
[04:14] <usser> hosstest, right now next step will destroy all your data so make sure everything backed up do du -h $HOME and du -h /home/backup the numbers it gives should be roughly the same
[04:14] <binarymutant> droopsta915, did you add it because by default there shouldn't be one
[04:14] <izinucs> usser, did that command get the . files too?
[04:14] <droopsta915> binarymutant: no i didnt
[04:14] <Ikyn_> how do I boot into rescue mode? my options are recovery mode, and memtest
[04:15] <Guest71804> quit
[04:15] <droopsta915> sorry i dont have a ssh file that i know about
[04:15] <hektic> Can i install games from one ubuntu cd onto my pc running a different version of ubuntu
[04:15] <usser> izinucs, yes
[04:15] <hosstest> usser: okay, still copying, what is the du command?
[04:15] <jlc> sorry
[04:15] <Louis> how do i upgrade from 8.04. to 8.10 on the command line?
[04:15] <jlc> Ikyn_: recovery
[04:15] <usser> hosstest, du shows how much space a certain folder occupies
[04:15]  * b3lorix is away: Gone to Bed, ill be back
[04:15] <jlc> several differnt distro's call it something else... :)
[04:15] <hosstest> usser: going out on a limb here, disk usage?
[04:15] <binarymutant> droopsta915, where'd you get the disc? because that would worry me. But even so could you pastebin .xsession-errors found in your home folder?
[04:16] <Ikyn_> My recovery mode = 6 options - Resume normal boot, clean, dpkg, fsck, root, and xfix
[04:16] <usser> hosstest, yep
[04:16] <hektic> how can i do this i tried the package mananger but is ends up downloading off line that takes forever
[04:16] <Ikyn_> none of them are "boot into recovery mode"
[04:16] <droopsta915> one second
[04:17] <jlc> Ikyn_: title		Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (recovery mode)
[04:17] <Ikyn_> yep
[04:17] <yesitsme> hello
[04:17] <Ikyn_> I'm in that menu right now
[04:17] <jlc> Ikyn_: you dont have that when you boot up
[04:17] <hosstest> usser: Have you seen these symptoms befor, where the mouse stopped grabbing items, and the Update Manager wouldnt allow you to update because of that?
[04:17] <jlc> ok, well choose that and hit enter
[04:17] <Ikyn_> done
[04:17] <hosstest> usser: still copying btw.
[04:17] <usser> hosstest, yea i remember something like that
[04:17] <jlc> Ikyn_: are you familiar with vi or nano?
[04:18] <Ikyn_> negative
[04:18] <jlc> hurm
[04:18] <hosstest> usser:  Do you have any idea why it happened in the first place?  And how I can avoid it from happending again>
[04:18] <usser> hosstest, my bet is compiz
[04:19] <jlc> Ikyn_: try typing this in
[04:19] <jlc> Ikyn_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:19] <jlc> when you get to a command line
[04:20] <Ikyn_> k
[04:20]  * b3lorix is away: Gone to Bed, ill be back
[04:20] <keyhack> if I use ubuntu 8.10 to create a Live USB thumbdrive, am I able to boot that drive and also make changes?
[04:20] <Ikyn_> ok
[04:20] <Ikyn_> jlc: now reboot?
[04:20] <Louis> how do i upgrade to a new distribution on the command line?  is it apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:20] <jlc> Ikyn_: what did it do?
[04:21] <JohnWittle> keyhack: yes
[04:21] <jlc> say done or reconfigured or something
[04:21] <hosstest> usser: okay, what was the du command you wanted me to issue.  Copying is complete.
[04:21] <JohnWittle> keyhack: it works just as well, just a bit slower
[04:21] <usser> hosstest, du -h $HOME
[04:21] <usser> hosstest, du -h /home/backup
[04:21] <Louis> i'm running ubuntu server 8.04 if that matters
[04:21] <usser> hosstest, numbers should be roughly the same
[04:21] <Ikyn_> jlc: overwriting possibly-customized config file
[04:21] <Ikyn_> it's done
[04:21] <jlc> Ikyn_: type this in
[04:21] <keyhack> JohnWittle: ok yeah, just wanted to be able to change the settings, new drivers, apps, etc. I realize it'll be a bit slow, but this is just going to hold the OS for a media PC I'm putting together
[04:21] <Neconide> I'm having some horrible trouble with ubuntu.
[04:21] <jlc> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf

[04:21] <hosstest> usser: yes, theuy match
[04:22] <JohnWittle> keyhack: Yeah, it'll be fine. A bit faster than running it off the liveCD, though not much, and much more... useable :D
[04:22] <Ikyn_> jlc: it didn't do anything
[04:22] <Neconide> Sigh
[04:22] <Loti> what do i need to play .rm files
[04:22] <jlc> ok
[04:22] <hektic> Can I install games form one version of ubuntu (a cd) to a newer version on my pc without using a package mananger? (everytime i try it downloads the packages and that would take forever)
[04:22] <Neconide> Loti
[04:22] <JohnWittle> Loti: Just grab teh CCCP and run it in Wine.
[04:22] <keyhack> JohnWittle: excellent, thanks! everything arrives tomorrow so I'm psyched :-)
[04:22] <usser> hosstest, cool now do sudo rm -rf $HOME/*
[04:23] <binarymutant> hektic, yes with the sudo dpkg -i command
[04:23] <jlc> Ikyn_: try reboot, if that doesn't work, you should be able to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:23] <hosstest> usser: okay
[04:23] <Loti> um  id rather run it natively
[04:23] <jlc> Ikyn_: back that file up first though
[04:23] <Neconide> Hey usser can I have a moment of your time
[04:23] <usser> Neconide, sure
[04:23] <jlc> Ikyn_: cd /etc/X11 ; cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig ; rm xorg.conf; reboot
[04:23] <jlc> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:23] <JohnWittle> keyhack: Yup. My dad just rigged up a system where he runs a Coax cable from Time Warner straight to a linux box with a octo-raid setup and uses the linux box as a DVR and a cable box
[04:23] <Vinceman> can anybody enter the room #ubuntu-nl and tell the admin my ban has last long enough?
[04:23] <usser> hektic, you need aptoncd
[04:23] <hosstest> usser: done
[04:23] <Loti> !real
[04:24] <jlc> its been awhile since I've done that, it might just remove and detect on next boot, so go ahead and reboot first
[04:24] <binarymutant> hektic, you'll have to download the .deb first though from like packages.ubuntu.com or something
[04:24] <usser> hosstest, cool now make sure its clean do ls $HOME
[04:24] <keyhack> JohnWittle: cool, yeah, I built a $222 Boxee system, so can't wait to play around with that
[04:24] <usser> hosstest, that should give u blank
[04:24] <JohnWittle> Haha, it'll be good
[04:24] <droopsta915> binarymutant: i cant find the error file,
[04:24] <Vinceman> hosstest, now we need a Vinceman: done
[04:24] <gaelfx> I am having problems with compiz-core, every time I try to redownload it and install it, I get the same error: http://pastebin.com/d67d6818c What can I do to fix this problem?
[04:24] <Neconide> Ubuntu won't recognize my linksys dual-band wireless-n usb network adapter, and it won't pick up any networks. I'm dual booting ubuntu 8.0.4 with vista, and I have minimal experience with linux... I used to run backtrack 3 (bleh) without a problem. I can work perfectly with windows no matter how much it sucks but I can't seem to figure this out.
[04:25] <hektic> i ment with the package mananger i need to point the source to the cd not the online servers
[04:25] <hosstest> usser: nothing was displayed with ls $HOME
[04:25] <binarymutant> droopsta915, try vim ~/.xsession-errors
[04:25] <usser> hosstest, cool now try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:25] <Neconide> Think you can help me usser?
[04:25] <binarymutant> hektic, its under settings->repositories in synaptic
[04:25] <trevor> I've got a small question.  My laptop's colors seem all washed out, and some colors produce odd red or blue lines.  Does that mean that my Graphics Controller is going bad?
[04:26] <hektic> ok cool i will give that a try
[04:26] <binarymutant> droopsta915, it might not be there though
[04:26] <Ikyn_> jlc: Thanks. It's booting up now
[04:26] <izinucs> trevor, or no configured correctly
[04:26] <jlc> anyone use gnome-main-menu (slab) from suse/novell
[04:26] <jlc> Ikyn_: yw, hopefully you get a desktop ;)
[04:26] <usser> Neconide, sorry... i wouldnt know anything about linksys wifi adapters, my suggestion is try intrepid livecd cause every new release adds more hardware support. chances are intrepid might support it
[04:26] <binarymutant> droopsta915, honestly I would reinstall, /ssh shouldn't be there unless you put there yourself
[04:26] <hektic> i think i got it thanks for the help
[04:27] <trevor> izinucs, It appears to be getting worse with time, so I don't think that it could be a configuration issue.  It may be, but how would I check?
[04:27] <headcheese_> usser: mouse is still effed
[04:27] <jlc> bbl
[04:27] <binarymutant> put it* there
[04:27] <usser> headcheese_, argh
[04:27] <darkbishop_> bebal
[04:27] <Vinceman> you are all from Romania because other people would be nuts to be awake so early
[04:27] <izinucs> trevor, not sure just throwing suggestions out there.
[04:27] <_mak> can i mount my /home in the /var/home?
[04:27] <Ikyn_> jlc: I do not. But I do have different errors at least - (EE) Unable to locate/open config file  -- (EE) open /dev/fb0: no such file or directory
[04:27] <droopsta915> binarymutant: can someone get remote access if i didnt set it up for that?
[04:27] <headcheese_> usser: think it might be gnome-do?  or something that is starting up?
[04:28] <mwilson_> hey guys..   how the heck to you changes the prefs on individual screen savers????   the previewer/selector doesn't seem to have any selectors for this and I know a few of these things have config modules.
[04:28] <chaqui1> what folder can I find the applications in?
[04:28] <usser> headcheese_, might be gnome... u said your update failed at some point
[04:28] <jonny_> Can someone do me a favour and tell me how to install kpilot. I can't find it in synaptic and other people seem to be able to. Am I going mad? Do you have it?
[04:28] <jonny_> (I do have Universe enabled and refreshed)
[04:28] <usser> headcheese_, go back to CTRL+ALT+f1 and finish update
[04:28] <Neconide> Ubuntu won't recognize my linksys dual-band wireless-n usb network adapter, and it won't pick up any networks. I'm dual booting ubuntu 8.0.4 with vista, and I have minimal experience with linux... I used to run backtrack 3 (bleh) without a problem. I can work perfectly with windows no matter how much it sucks but I can't seem to figure this out. Does anyone think they can help me, or is this a lost cause?
[04:28] <usser> headcheese_, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:28] <headcheese_> usser: how?
[04:28] <binarymutant> droopsta915, I'm not sure, but if thats there and you didn't create it, there could be other things wrong
[04:28] <headcheese_> usser: okay
[04:29] <trevor> mwilson_, You don't.  Gnome doesn't allow you to change settings, because it might be too confusing...
[04:29] <extor> Is there an swf flash file player besides swfdec? I am looking for something which has a progress bar that you can use to advance forward or go back to different parts of the video
[04:29] <droopsta915> thanx for the help, appretiated very much
[04:29] <raven> extor, use VLC
[04:29] <raven> extor, it can do anything
[04:29] <Neconide> usser: oh sorry I didn't see what you said before, thanks for the suggestion.
[04:29] <hosstest> usser: please list the command again.  I cant scroll up
[04:29] <extor> raven, VLC croaks on this swf
[04:29] <extor> raven nope
[04:30] <raven> extor, KMPlayer?
[04:30] <extor> lemme try that
[04:30] <usser> hosstest, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:30] <raven> extor, i find that KMPlayer can do the few things VLC doesnt for me
[04:30] <mwilson_> trevor:  YOu've got to be kidding me......
[04:30] <woli> has anybody expirienced slow openoffice?
[04:30] <raven> yeah, its based on java
[04:30] <raven> its always slow..
[04:30] <woli> when i open big documents i cant scroll smoothly
[04:30] <woli> ah...
[04:30] <mwilson_> trevor: so there's no way to turn on sound for SKYROCKET for my son and his buds?  yeesh.
[04:30] <woli> is that i saw some reviews of people that actually said it wasn't slow at all
[04:31] <woli> they said it was as fast as msword
[04:31] <raven> depends what u call slow,
[04:31] <raven> lol
[04:31] <raven> yeah, it is
[04:31] <raven> and MSword is slow
[04:31] <raven> :p
[04:31] <FloodBot2> raven: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <yell0w> is there a youtube-dl for dailymotion ?
[04:31] <woli> well, msword is not slow...
[04:31] <trevor> mwilson_, You can use X Screensaver settings, rather than the gnome supplied ones.  And, no, I'm not kidding.  That's one of the BIG problems most people have with Gnome.
[04:31] <Loti> word is prefetched
[04:31] <woli> i mean, on openoffice i cannot scroll smoothly when operating with big documents, like 10 pages
[04:32] <Loti> if you just want word
[04:32] <hosstest> usser: okay finished installing updates
[04:32] <yell0w> hey guys is there a youtube-dl for dailymotion ?
[04:32] <Loti> why not abiword
[04:32] <mmcji> howdee
[04:32] <mmcji> i am setting up postfix
[04:32] <raven> woli, that's not too big, my openoffice handles that fine on windows
[04:32] <woli> Loti: i don't know... haven't tried it
[04:32] <raven> woli, but i dont use openoffice on linux usually
[04:32] <woli> raven: and on ubuntu?
[04:32] <Neconide> Can anyone help me with some network problems I'm having with Ubuntu 8.0.4
[04:32] <woli> ah..
[04:32] <usser> hosstest, did it actually install anything?
[04:33] <mwilson_> thanks trevor.  Appriciate it.
[04:33] <hosstest> usser: tons of excriment.
[04:33] <mwilson_> :)
[04:33] <mmcji> when i am asked for the: "Root and postmaster mail recipient" during install, do I put a regular linux user here?
[04:33] <hosstest> usser: yes
[04:33] <_2> does anyone know if it's a bash thang, or a ubuntu thang, that bash doesn't play nice with home dir set to drwxrwxrwx ?
[04:33] <trevor> mwilson_, Here.  http://www.getdeb.net/app/screensaver-settings  I use this to manage my screensavers now...
[04:33] <lala_lala> hi. i am running norton partition magic. i have encountered an error #104. how do i resolve this?
[04:34] <usser> hosstest, hm sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and see if it fixed it?
[04:34] <trevor> mwilson_, It may be for Hardy, but works fine on intrepid...
[04:34] <hosstest> usser: okay, giving it a shot
[04:34] <yell0w> lala_lala: erhh try #windows ?
[04:34] <lala_lala> thanks!
[04:34] <raven> lol
[04:34] <raven> :)
[04:34] <lala_lala> didnt know where to go
[04:34] <Neconide> lala_lala please refer to this Ubuntu won't recognize my linksys dual-band wireless-n usb network adapter, and it won't pick up any networks. I'm dual booting ubuntu 8.0.4 with vista, and I have minimal experience with linux... I used to run backtrack 3 (bleh) without a problem. I can work perfectly with windows no matter how much it sucks but I can't seem to figure this out.
[04:34] <Neconide> woops
[04:34] <_2> someone maybe ?
[04:34] <darkdeeper> dont think anyone in woindows
[04:34] <Neconide> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:34] <Neconide> there you go
[04:34] <FloodBot2> Neconide: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <andre_pl> I just built myself a custom kernel from upstream and it all went well, but now I'd like to patch in a driver, how can I do this without having to recompile EVERYTHING?
[04:35] <woli> its funny, people at the windows channel spend their time talking about linux...
[04:35] <raven> cuz all the SMART windows users use linux too
[04:35] <Neconide> lolz
[04:35] <raven> :p
[04:35] <raven> im one of them
[04:35] <raven> i know..
[04:35] <koops> im having problem with intel gma video card and compiz on intrepid, is that a xserver problem or what? its very unstable, i mean intrepid!
[04:35] <FloodBot2> raven: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <jonny_> can anyone please try and install kpilot and tell me whether it works, I'm trying to work out if I am going mad. 'sudo apt-get install kpilot' would try to do it - I don't mind if you cancel the installation - I just want to know if it can find the package
[04:35] <ech0dish> hey guys
[04:35] <darkdeeper> got tat correct
[04:35] <ech0dish> i got a weird issue
[04:35] <woli> raven: lol, FloodBot2 always tells you to shut up
[04:35] <ech0dish> keyboard keeps going out on me
[04:36] <ech0dish> and wont respond
[04:36] <raven> woli, yeah... i like to hit enter
[04:36] <ech0dish> not sure whats goin on
[04:36] <darkdeeper> everyone here got weird issue..
[04:36] <ech0dish> any advice?
[04:36] <Neconide> ech0dish: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:36] <ech0dish> it seems to be completely random
[04:36] <_2> andre_pl you can build just the kernel  or you can build just the/a module/s
[04:36] <mixed-_-> anyone here ever played urban terror on ubuntu?
[04:36] <raven> ech0dish, buy a new keyboard?   Left click isnt working.  I know it isnt the mouse.
[04:36] <ech0dish> and i have dual boot xp/ubuntu
[04:37] <ech0dish> works fine in windows
[04:37] <ech0dish> never fails
[04:37] <ech0dish> only in linux
[04:37] <mixed-_-> woli:  did the 64 bit work?
[04:37] <Neconide> ech0dish if you could provide a little more system information it would be helpful. until then, read the link I provided above (How to ask questions: the smart way)
[04:37] <raven> oic
[04:37] <_mak> how can i mount my /home in /var/home? the --move is not working for me...
[04:37] <woli> mixed-_-: i don't use that thing
[04:37] <ech0dish> dell d600
[04:37] <_2> andre_pl it's in the "make" command.   make<what?>
[04:37] <woli> i386
[04:37] <darkdeeper>  ech0dish; keep ur keyboard as simplye as u can... dont use the smart keyboard like logitech and so on
[04:37] <mixed-_-> woli:  so you only use 32 bit?
[04:37] <woli> yes
[04:37] <gaelfx> I am having problems with compiz-core, every time I try to redownload it and install it, I get the same error: http://pastebin.com/d67d6818c what can I do to fix this problem?
[04:37] <raven> he is using a laptop keyboard, darkdeeper
[04:37] <ech0dish> it's a laptop
[04:37] <dig_> hi, does anyone make an ISO file for winxp?
[04:37] <raven> !warez | dig_
[04:37] <usser> ech0dish, open a terminal and run top. when it locks up again, top should tell u if anything is clogging all the resources. do u use intel wireless by any chance, i know i had that problem with intel
[04:38] <darkdeeper>  ech0dish; must have miss tat then
[04:38] <mixed-_-> woli:  im downloading urban terror as we speak, are there any freeze games on urban terror?
[04:38] <Neconide> dig_: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:38] <_2> dig_ micro soft does
[04:38] <chubs> ech0dish: check the cable connection. (seriously{
[04:38] <woli> mixed-_-: what do you mean with freezed?
[04:38] <darkdeeper>  ech0dish; can u define ur problme.i dont quite understand..
[04:38] <raven> im a big supporter of piracy, but not in this channel :p
[04:38] <Neconide> I'm tired of people asking dumb questions.
[04:38] <usser> headcheese_, im not sure whats up. try different desktop environment.
[04:38] <mixed-_-> woli:  freeze games where the object of the game is ito freeze all of your opponents
[04:38] <LF|Irssi> What's with all the windows questions? Is this not a Linux channel?
[04:38] <ech0dish> yes internal broadcom chipset
[04:38] <usser> headcheese_, drop back to console and install lxde
[04:38] <woli> mixed-_-: no...
[04:38] <Neconide> Now anyway
[04:38] <_mak> how can i mount my /home in /var/home? the --move is not working for me... anyone?
[04:38] <usser> headcheese_, sudo apt-get install lxde
[04:39] <woli> mixed-_-: like to go behind and call FREEZE! no...
[04:39] <ech0dish> kernel has been patched for packet injection
[04:39] <_2> raven don't support piracy.  support freedom.
[04:39] <Neconide> Can anyone help me with some wireless adapter issues I'm having for ubuntu 8.0.4
[04:39] <dig_> the problem is my dvd rom is not working, so I need to make an ISO file.
[04:39] <tallmtt> I just bought a new Acer - I would like to backup the original windows partition to a backup drive for later restoration use - can I use a simple "cp -r /mnt/win /mnt/backupdrive" to do it?
[04:39] <hosstest> usser: what was the name of the package again?
[04:39] <ech0dish> but this issue is new, been working with the patched kernel for about 6 months no issues
[04:39] <Neconide> _2 how would I have all my music without good old piracy?!
[04:39] <usser> hosstest, lxde
[04:39] <darkdeeper>  ech0dish; ur using 8.04 i presume??
[04:39] <ech0dish> yes
[04:39] <ech0dish> believe it might be related to compiz
[04:39] <ech0dish> am removing now
[04:39] <raven> why do ppl stay with old LTS versions in a noncorporate environment... gah...
[04:39] <koops> hardy is still more stable than intrepid! why?
[04:40] <_2> Neconide learn to play guitar :)))
[04:40] <Louis> dig_ try bittorrent, they have a bunch of untouched .iso images there
[04:40] <Louis> you'll still need a valid key, or course
[04:40] <raven> <3 intrepid
[04:40] <darkdeeper>  ech0dish; then stop compiz..
[04:40] <raven> it fixed everything
[04:40] <hosstest> says it cannot find package lxde
[04:40] <mixed-_-> woli:  no, i mean freeze games are team death match games where your team freezes the opponents by fragging them, your teammates can thaw you by standing still next to you for about 3 secs... welll never mind, i have quake 3 and i cant get to any of the freeze games
[04:40] <raven> mixed-_-, they have that in CS:S too..
[04:40] <darkdeeper>  ech0dish; try just using text mode for a while.. stop ur gdm.. if its okey then must be something wrong with the gui thing
[04:40] <Neconide> Tarek what did you want?
[04:40] <mixed-_-> raven, what's CS:S????
[04:40] <Neconide> It's perfectly ok to speak to me here :)
[04:40] <darkdeeper> raven: csi?
[04:41] <usser> hosstest, what version of ubuntu u're using?
[04:41] <dig_> I have the original xp cd, so wonder how to make an ISO in ubuntu
[04:41] <raven> mixed-_-, counterstrike:source
[04:41] <hosstest> usser: Hardy
[04:41] <ech0dish> only change the system has seen is a few features i added from compiz
[04:41] <darkdeeper> raven: i cant even get cs 1.6 to play here
[04:41] <mixed-_-> raven but is counterstrike free and open source?
[04:41] <usser> hosstest, hm maybe its not in hardy... is your internet connection fast?
[04:41] <ech0dish> yeah i could use terminal for a while
[04:41] <raven> mixed-_-, nope, but it's cheap and works good on wine
[04:41] <ech0dish> good idea
[04:41] <_2> dig_   dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[04:41] <woli> mixed-_-: i wish
[04:41] <chubs> raven: because upgrading costs time and bandwidth
[04:41] <hosstest> usser: yeah
[04:41] <raven> darkdeeper, i got l4d working on wine here, but only 10-18fps
[04:42] <ech0dish> how do i completely remove compiz though
[04:42] <dig_> cool
[04:42] <woli> raven: CS:S?? No it does not!!
[04:42] <mixed-_-> raven:  i have my quake 3 CD and it's scratched and cant install it on windows, im not paying for these games unless i know they can work perfectly on linux
[04:42] <ech0dish> i did, apt-get remove compiz
[04:42] <usser> hosstest, ok so do sudo apt-get install xfce4
[04:42] <ech0dish> but isn't there more packages?
[04:42] <raven> woli, yes it does
[04:42] <raven> :p
[04:42] <woli> raven: with which wine version?
[04:42] <raven> start it with -dxlevel 81 and disable AA
[04:42] <raven> with 1.1.8
[04:42] <woli> raven: and with 1.1.7?
[04:42] <raven> dunno
[04:42] <raven> probably works fine
[04:43] <woli> raven: whats AA ?
[04:43] <darkdeeper>  ech0dish; i think u batter try text mode 1st to identify ur problem... if its really the compiz fault.. then u can proseed with the purgeing
[04:43] <raven> antialiasing
[04:43] <nibsa1242> why does CD/DVD creator folder take 20min to "calculate file size" before it can burn
[04:43] <woli> raven: do you get absolutely the same performance than that of the game running under windows?
[04:43] <ech0dish> aight
[04:43] <ech0dish> will enter terminal mode
[04:43] <darkdeeper> nibsa1242, something wrong with ur cdrw maybe
[04:43] <raven> woli, under lower settings, but yes
[04:43] <ech0dish> but have uninstalled compiz already
[04:43] <chubs> ech0dish: how long has this problem been affecting you?
[04:43] <_2> dig_ be aware that some "copy protection methoods" used by the software maker may include burning bad spots on the origenal disk to cause it to "fail" to copy correctly.   there are things that can circumvent that.
[04:44] <ech0dish> just about a week or so
[04:44] <dzup> Linux alex 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:20 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux whatis the name of my ubuntu. feisty. gutsy. hardy  ???
[04:44] <ech0dish> last thing i installed was compiz and that was a little over a week ago
[04:44] <andre_pl> _2: thanks, I think i need to do a total recompile though :( theres more than just the module apparently.
[04:44] <nibsa1242> darkdeeper: this is before it starts writing
[04:44] <mixed-_-> i downloaded 700MB in less than 10 minutes, wow!
[04:44] <gaelfx> I am having problems with compiz-core, every time I try to redownload it and install it, I get the same error: http://pastebin.com/d67d6818c what can I do to fix this problem?
[04:44] <Battosai> hey
[04:44] <ech0dish> i was thinking at first slowkeys settings but was wrong
[04:44] <woli> raven: i cannot download 1.1.8 for it makes my pc freeze on WoW
[04:44] <_2> mixed-_- k.   welcome.
[04:44] <hosstest> usser: dude, I really appreciate you trying to help me out.  But I really dont have all night to trouble shoot this.  I am going to just reload with Winblows.  I am a gamer and unfortunatly, getting games to work right in Ubentu has been more than a chore.  Not only that, Ventrilo doesnt work and I have been trouble shooting that over a week now.  I am just fed up.    I mig
[04:44] <hosstest> ht try out OSX>
[04:44] <chubs> ech0dish: but it was working fine under ubuntu prior to that? or have you only had ubuntu for a week or so?
[04:44] <darkdeeper> i downloaded house in just 10 minit
[04:44] <raven> woli, have more than one version installed at once then
[04:45] <dig_> _2: cool
[04:45] <woli> raven: how?
[04:45] <ech0dish> no have had this system set up for about 6 months or so
[04:45] <DavidCanarias> I keep being told I have an overburning problem when trying to record with Brasero, does anyone know why? I am trying to put about 250mb on a CD of 700mb, its not logical??
[04:45] <chubs> ahh, well that's certainly a good indicator
[04:45] <raven> woli, compile from source and dont make install, just make and then run it from that dir with absolute path
[04:45] <woli> raven: ahh.. too complicated for me...
[04:45] <hosstest> usser: Thanks a ton for the help thus far.
[04:45] <usser> hosstest, OSX is even worse than linux gaming-wise... but yea i can understand your frustration.
[04:45] <hosstest> usser: Gonna call this one a defeat.
[04:45] <woli> raven: gonna try cs:s under 1.1.7
[04:45] <raven> woli, it probablly will work on that v. tho yeah
[04:45] <ech0dish> what other sessions are there besides gnome and kde?
[04:45] <hosstest> usser: at least the games I want to play are supported by OSX.
[04:46] <nibsa1242> darkdeeper: basically... add files to cd/dvd creator folder ---> click write to disk ---> wait 20min to calculate size---> start burning
[04:46] <kelledin> heh
[04:46] <ech0dish> i know fluxbox too but want something inbetween flux and gnome perhaps
[04:46] <Neconide> Can anyone help me with some USB wireless adapter issues I'm having with Ubuntu?
[04:46] <kelledin> upgrading from Gutsy to Hardy...via SSH...through VPN...on a SunFire 280R.
[04:46] <hosstest> usser: again, you were the only that stepped up to help out.  THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!  I really mean it.
[04:46] <kelledin> wish me luck, ppl ;)
[04:46] <NBrepresent> hello everyone... i just experienced a crash of historic proportions... had to manually run fsck and now X won't start... where do i start?
[04:46] <darkdeeper> nibsa1242, did u copy from cd to cd or just some file... i think maybe the copywrite thing
[04:47] <chubs> ech0dish: xfce is probably what you're looking for
[04:47] <usser> hosstest, no problem sorry it didnt work out
[04:47] <JohnWittle> So... I'm on a PowerPC computer. I do not want to install linux on this computer. I want to boot off of a Linux PPC LiveCD and use the USB Ubuntu Install tool that is available on the LiveCD, but as far as I can tell the PPC CD is only the installer.
[04:47] <Roasted> My flash drive does not work in Ubuntu. It did three days ago, but as of today, it doesn't. It is FAT32 and works fine in Vista and XP but not in Ubuntu. Even Ubuntu Hardy LiveCD it doesn't respond. Gparted and sudo fdisk -l show nothing about it. Any ideas, anybody?
[04:47] <hosstest> usser: not a prob.  Later bud.
[04:47] <ech0dish> is that whats on xubuntu?
[04:47] <Neconide> usser helps like 50 people at the same time o_o it's pretty incredible
[04:47] <darkdeeper> NB, startX or service gdm start
[04:47] <darkdeeper> what is xubuntu?
[04:47] <darkdeeper> !xubuntu
[04:47] <NBrepresent> darkdeeper: forgot to mention that one problem is that my user/pass is not working
[04:47] <raven> xfce ubuntu
[04:47] <nibsa1242> darkdeeper: its about 4.28 GB of random files... it just takes forever to caculate space
[04:47] <ech0dish> xubuntu, kubuntu...
[04:47] <chubs> ech0dish: yes
[04:48] <droopsta915> how can i configure an xsession file error
[04:48] <_2> ech0dish xubuntu uses xfce4  yes.
[04:48] <ech0dish> kool
[04:48] <darkdeeper> what the fish is xfce?
[04:48] <ech0dish> so just apt-get install xfce
[04:48] <JohnWittle> Anyone?
[04:48] <kelledin> hm.  considering how flaky our VPN gets about midnight, I'll have to chicken out of that
[04:48] <_2> darkdeeper a desktop
[04:48] <NBrepresent> darkdeeper: for some reason when i try to log in at the TTY it just presents me with the login again, as if i've entered them wrong.. when i intentionally enter incorrect credentials though, i get an 'incorrect' message.
[04:48] <ech0dish> anyone know the name of the package?
[04:48] <raven> xfce?
[04:49] <ech0dish> xfce4 perhaps?
[04:49] <raven> xfce-desktop perhaps
[04:49] <chubs> ech0dish: they're all the same though. just installing xfce and setting it as your default DE would suffice
[04:49] <darkdeeper> NB have u try it in other tty...
[04:49] <ech0dish> yeah it's 4
[04:49] <chubs> bleh, sorry, i'm getting lag over here for some reason
[04:49] <tyso1> anyone, im working on ubuntu 810 and im looking for a dock bar that i had on 804 i think its called avant window navigator for some reason i cant fin it in the package manager. any suggestions?
[04:49] <kelledin> ech0dish: normally just apt-get installing xubuntu-desktop will get it in place for you
[04:49] <ech0dish> it's goin with xfce4
[04:50] <Roasted> My flash drive does not work in Ubuntu. It did three days ago, but as of today, it doesn't. It is FAT32 and works fine in Vista and XP but not in Ubuntu. Even Ubuntu Hardy LiveCD it doesn't respond. Gparted and sudo fdisk -l show nothing about it. Any ideas, anybody?
[04:50] <JohnWittle> Anyone know how I can boot Ubuntu off of a CD on a PPC processor?
[04:50] <usser> tyso1, sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[04:50] <NBrepresent> darkdeeper: i just did a hard reset, and selected a different kernel in grub and now it seems to be booting up normally.... that was scary!
[04:50] <ech0dish> hope it works well, gnome is kinda sluggish on my old lappy
[04:50] <kelledin> as it is, i'll wait till i'm in tomorrow to kick off that Hardy upgrade
[04:50] <raven> JohnWittle, u'd need a PPC version..
[04:50] <Neconide> Can anyone help me with some USB wireless adapter issues I'm having with Ubuntu?
[04:51] <darkdeeper> NB, its just like windows.boot with last know working configuration... something like tat
[04:51] <tyso1> usser thanks! also for the codecs and flash isnt it sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-packages ?
[04:51] <Bluescales> Ddoes anybody know what package I need to grab to do kernel module development?
[04:51] <Roasted> ubuntu-restricted-extras I believe
[04:51] <darkdeeper> !vpn
[04:51] <JohnWittle> raven: Yes, the only PPC iso I could find is install-only, can't actually boot ubuntu off of it.
[04:51] <tyso1> roasted thanks!
[04:51] <darkdeeper> how do i use vpn in 8.1?
[04:51] <Roasted> no problem :)
[04:52] <usser> tyso1, yep. also
[04:52] <LF|Irssi> 8.10*
[04:52] <Neconide> Can anyone help me with some USB wireless adapter issues I'm having with Ubuntu?
[04:52] <darkdeeper> do i relly need to install pptpd?
[04:52] <usser> !medibuntu | tyso1
[04:52] <_2> !b-e > Bluescales
[04:52] <Roasted> Anybody have any idea what's up with my flash drive????
[04:52] <raven> JohnWittle, oic... u could try unetboot to make a bootable USB of the ppc iso
[04:52] <chubs> JohnWittle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714
[04:52] <_2> Bluescales you'll need that for sure.
[04:52] <tyso1> usser ill check it out thanks
[04:52] <Louis> is there a way to reset ubuntu to all it's defaults (including installed software) without reinstalling?
[04:52] <Bluescales> _2: need what for sure?
[04:52] <droopsta915> how can i unlink a file?
[04:53] <_2> Bluescales see your pm window
[04:53] <Roasted> Is there any way to run fsck off of a LiveCD on a device, even if that device isn't detected by Ubuntu?
[04:53] <Bluescales> build-essential? I have that
[04:53] <_2> yes
[04:53] <JohnWittle> chubs: There is no live CD, just the text installer
[04:53] <Bluescales> modules.h isn't in /usr/include/linux/ ><
[04:53] <DavidCanarias> Why does my server not recognize some URL's. Is there anything I can do
[04:54] <Bluescales> so I assumed I need another package or something
[04:54] <chubs> JohnWittle: there is for 8.04, you'll probably have to wait a while for 8.10, but in the meantime you can use 8.04 and upgrade if you'd like
[04:54] <_2> Bluescales b-e and the kernel headers and source is about all
[04:54] <droopsta915> if i edit an error in the xsession-errors file, will that fix the error?
[04:54] <JohnWittle> chubs: Do you know if the USB Flash Drive install tool thing is available on the hardy live cd?
[04:55] <jeettu> In Ubuntu there is any software for audio editing
[04:55] <usser> JohnWittle, no it was included in intrepid
[04:55] <Bluescales> _2: oh, awesome. thanks
[04:55] <chubs> JohnWittle: i've not used it before, but from my understanding it can be used to boot any linux distribution
[04:55] <Neconide> No networks are displayed in my network manager - I'm trying to connect to a wireless network, can anybody help me?
[04:56] <Bluescales> _2: actually, I already have the kernel headers ><
[04:56] <dzup> Linux alex 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:20 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux whatis the name of my ubuntu. feisty. gutsy. hardy  ???
[04:56]  * Bluescales checks other folders for module.h
[04:56] <Bluescales> aha
[04:56] <Bluescales> found it, thanks _2
[04:57] <usser> JohnWittle, but u can look for the package for hardy, the tool is called usb-creator
[04:57] <droopsta915> neconide: system > administartor > hardware drivers, make sure the wireless card is in use, check the box
[04:57] <_2> Bluescales welcome
[04:57] <JohnWittle> usser: I'm unfamiliar with installing packages from a liveCD. Is it even possible?
[04:57] <JohnWittle> Grr...
[04:57] <JohnWittle> lol
[04:57] <Neconide> droopsta915, thank you, I will reboot and try this. (I'm dual booting ubuntu and vista)
[04:57] <jhalstead> update-alternatives "x-www-browser" has been corrupted.  How can I reconfigure this file?
[04:58] <K`zan>  How hard is it to change video cards from nvidia to ATI ?  TIA!
[04:58] <_2> JohnWittle yes it's possable.
[04:58] <Rubin> anyone reccomend a usb wacom style tablet that works well with ubuntu?
[04:58] <droopsta915> ;) no prob
[04:59] <LF|Irssi> K`zan: you sure you want to go with ATI cards in Linux?
[04:59] <raven> Rubin, i havent used it with ubuntu yet but the Wacom Bamboo is quite nice
[04:59] <usser> JohnWittle, yea sure
[04:59] <JohnWittle> _2: What exactly do I do?
[04:59] <JohnWittle> I mean, does it know to DL it to the hard drive?
[04:59] <Rubin> raven, what size do you have?
[04:59] <andre_pl> raven: Rubin the bamboo does work pretty well in ubuntu
[04:59] <usser> JohnWittle, it actually doesnt, entire livecd runs from memory
[04:59] <Rubin> andre_pl, pressure too?
[04:59] <JohnWittle> lol
[05:00] <mankash> how to use serial port in ubuntu
[05:00] <scientes> how do i build ubuntu-restricted-modules for a custom kernel?
[05:00] <JohnWittle> Also, I don't know but i'm pretty sure I won't have internet...
[05:00] <raven> rubin: there's only one size of bamboo unless im mistaken..
[05:00] <_2> JohnWittle you'll have to pass some argurmets to apt/dpkg  the man pages can help with that, if you can read them.
[05:00] <raven> rubin: i think its 4x5
[05:00] <Rubin> raven, oh
[05:00] <JohnWittle> Is there any way I could download the package to my HD right now
[05:00] <andre_pl> Rubin: can't say for sure, its my girlfriends and I'
[05:00] <andre_pl> ve never used it
[05:00] <JohnWittle> and then run it in linux?
[05:00] <Rubin> maybe the bamboo IS the 'small' model.
[05:00] <andre_pl> i know she uses it all the time though, so it can't be that bad ;P
[05:00] <raven> yeah it's certainly a smaller one
[05:00] <pottox> HEKP!!!
[05:01] <pottox> my eth0 just stopped working while I was fixing wlan0
[05:01] <kodokbleduk> anyone know how to install fonts that i've already downloaded in intrepid?
[05:01] <Rubin> thanks andre_pl and raven
[05:01] <chubs> JohnWittle: you could mount your hd under linux
[05:01] <_2> JohnWittle if you are talking about using a running liveCD to install packages on an installed system on hdd   then yes it can be done.     in fact that's exactly what the installer does.
[05:01] <pottox> now I got wlan0 but no eth0
[05:01] <raven> Rubin, np
[05:01] <pottox> sights
[05:01] <droopsta915> if i edit an error in the xsession-errors file, will that fix the error?
[05:01] <pottox> anybody?
[05:01] <bella> Hi all I was wondering how to get nvidia drivers to work.  Every time i put them in it seems to find no screen.  Somewhere i googled suggested that i backup the xorg.conf and then copy it back and I did that but it didnt work either.  In order to get back into X i had to apt-get remove nvidia* any solutions to getting the drivers installed?
[05:01] <genii> pottox: Does: ifconfig                show an eth0 device?
[05:02] <bella> anybody?
[05:02] <Rubin> raven, ahh, they do have sizes on bamboo model. small/medium/large. medium is $200 though.
[05:02] <raven> genii, r u named for the race of ppl in stargate atlantis?
[05:03] <gaelfx> I am having problems with compiz-core, every time I try to redownload it and install it, I get the same error: http://pastebin.com/d67d6818c what can I do to fix this problem?
[05:03] <raven> Rubin, i spent $80 on mine, must be the small
[05:03] <genii> raven: No.
[05:03] <raven> genii, jw
[05:03] <JohnWittle> this would be so much easier if there were just an easy way to put ubuntu onto a flash drive lol
[05:03] <raven> JohnWittle, there is
[05:03] <raven> JohnWittle, that's what i said u shud do earlier
[05:03] <Rubin> small is probly good enough for me
[05:03] <_2> JohnWittle if i read you correctly,  the easiest way to accomplish what you are asking for is, mount your installed system on /mnt and dl your packages "all that are needed" then copy them to /mnt/var/cache/apt/archives   and reboot into the installed system and install the packages just as if you were going to fetch them from the repos.
[05:03] <raven> JohnWittle, u can go from ISO->flash drive
[05:03] <raven> JohnWittle, use unetboot
[05:03] <manguy> What does the s mean in drwxr-s--- ?
[05:03] <JohnWittle> raven: I have to be booted into ubuntu to do that
[05:03] <bella> :( nobody willing to help me?
[05:04] <JohnWittle> i'm on a mac lol
[05:04] <_2> JohnWittle there is an easy way to put ubuntu on a usb stick.
[05:04] <raven> JohnWittle, u can do it on windows
[05:04] <jhalstead> update-alternatives "x-www-browser" has been corrupted.  How can I reconfigure this file? Can someone help please?
[05:04] <raven> JohnWittle, or possibly compile it on mac ;)
[05:04] <chubs> JohnWittle: so mount -t hfs
[05:04] <raven> JohnWittle, http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[05:04] <huiger_> 我现在用XCHAT連接的               不知道是不是这里
[05:04] <Rubin> bella, inspect /var/log/X.log.0
[05:04] <JohnWittle> raven: yeah yeah >.< let me go get xcode...
[05:04] <raven> hehe
[05:04] <JohnWittle> lol
[05:04] <yell0w> jhalstead: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:04] <Neconide> droopsta915: my USB wireless adapter was not displayed
[05:04] <chubs> !cn | huiger_
[05:04] <raven> it's a real bitch having to dl a 1GB iso just to get GCC, JohnWittle
[05:04] <raven> ;/
[05:05] <Neconide> droopsta915: none of my USB devices get recognized, after I tested it.
[05:05] <JohnWittle> lol it took 13 minutes
[05:05] <raven> took me an hour..
[05:05] <raven> wtf connection r u on
[05:05] <Rubin> bella, verify you have an nvidia card. google your model number... etc.
[05:05] <raven> i have 15mbit
[05:05] <JohnWittle> in the past hour i've grabbed the x86 iso, the ppc iso, and the 8.04 ppc iso
[05:05] <JohnWittle> i have 6mbit
[05:05] <raven> and u dl that fast how
[05:05] <JohnWittle> btw the torrent is always, ALWAYS, faster
[05:05] <raven> it is?
[05:05] <JohnWittle> yes
[05:05] <mikmorg1> is there something special i have to do to use regular old xfonts?
[05:05]  * raven rethinks his download schemes
[05:05] <raven> :p
[05:05] <JohnWittle> because
[05:06] <jhalstead> all that does is tell me why file is corrupt, thanks though I'll look elsewhere
[05:06] <JohnWittle> this is just my theory
[05:06] <JohnWittle> they put the torrent on all of their download mirrors
[05:06] <yell0w> raven: rtorrent
[05:06] <yell0w> :)
[05:06] <JohnWittle> so you are downloading simultaneously
[05:06] <iamben> anyone know why the liveusb tool requires a 2G usb drive to store what would otherwise be a 700M cd?
[05:06] <Rubin> bella, also try the troubleshooting section here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:06] <chubs> stop your complaining, 'twould take me 6
[05:06] <JohnWittle> from all of the mirrors
[05:06] <sf6> anyone have any opinions on using NTFS or EXT3 for the big data partition on a dual-boot (windows xp/ubuntu) system? is ext2 for windows or ntfs-3g for linux more reliable/safer, faster, etc?
[05:06] <JohnWittle> PLUS anyone who happens to be seeding
[05:06] <raven> yell0w, i know rtorrent :p
[05:06] <droopsta915> Neconide: you are using a laptop?
[05:06] <yell0w> raven: do you hug it daily ?
[05:06] <sf6> i've got a big 1tb drive i'm going to partition and format.
[05:06] <raven> JohnWittle, i max my connection out with HTTP tho, by adding each mirror to a downloader prog
[05:06] <raven> yell0w, it hugs ME
[05:06] <raven> :p
[05:06] <_2> chubs six what ?
[05:06] <Rubin> sf6, your wanting to access the partition from both OSes?
[05:07] <Neconide> droopsta915: nope, HP pavilion with amd64
[05:07] <JohnWittle> raven: I don't know why you're so slow, then
[05:07] <JohnWittle> maybe the seeders do make a difference
[05:07] <raven> JohnWittle, 1.85MB/s...
[05:07] <kodokbleduk> anyone know how to install fonts that i've already downloaded in intrepid?
[05:07] <JohnWittle> maybe your ISP sucks really hard
[05:07] <yell0w> raven: ok i think we've veered towards -offtopic
[05:07] <yell0w> lol
[05:07] <Rubin> sf6: ext2 for windows has a problem, which is that its NOT ext3 for windows. it WORKS, but if you modify the disk you loose the journal.
[05:07] <Rubin> sf6: ntfs has a problem that a) if you shutdown windows uncleanly, you cannot even mount it, and b) it doesnt support unix style permissions
[05:08] <droopsta915> Neconide: the hardware drivers are in use, do you see green or red dot?
[05:08] <chubs> JohnWittle: i'd hardly call it a theory
[05:08] <JohnWittle> chubs: most likely it is reality
[05:08] <Neconide> droopsta915: they are not displayed.
[05:08] <raven> Rubin, i put things on my EXT3 from windows just fine and it still works...
[05:08] <chubs> _2: wrong person?
[05:08] <Rubin> sf6: i tried to do that for a while, and finally gave up entirely and now use a fileserver for data which maps with samba.
[05:08] <raven> Rubin, i used some tool...
[05:09] <_2> Rubin and sf6 vfat has a problem too  file size limit
[05:09] <chubs> _2: oh i see, i meant 6 hours-
[05:09] <raven> Rubin, oh and u can mount it, just -o force works fine
[05:09] <raven> Rubin, for ntfs
[05:09] <Neconide> Leave it to Neconide to have a bum ass ubuntu install.
[05:09] <mikmorg1> could someone tell me why when i install xfonts-jmk, i don't see the new fonts listed in any font list? even after running fc-cache -fv?
[05:09] <_2> chubs heh.   six weeks for me.
[05:09] <Rubin> raven, there is a reason they dont have you do that automatically :P
[05:09] <mikmorg1> is there something weird/deprecated about xfonts?
[05:09] <raven> Rubin, bah, and what wud that be? nothing bad happened to me, they just piss me off by not doing it auto..
[05:09] <Rubin> if you have a large data disk, the last thing you want to do is take chances with it
[05:09] <droopsta915> Neconide: sorry, I haven't experienced this so I cant further assist, you. Ask again, someone out there has had the same problem. sorry
[05:09] <JohnWittle> if I'm on a PowerBook G4, will the hardy heron live cd come with enough drivers to use the wireless card?
[05:09] <JohnWittle> or am i fucked?
[05:10] <raven> Rubin, i mount mine like that on a daily basis and always reboot with the reset button
[05:10] <raven> Rubin, no problems.
[05:10] <Rubin> JohnWittle, i'm sure someone has tried it before you. check around google etc and see what they say
[05:10] <Rubin> raven, lack of problems is not proof of stability :P
[05:10] <raven> meh
[05:10] <raven> :p
[05:10] <mib_4xdqy3> any ext4 experts around?
[05:10] <raven> there's an ext4?
[05:10] <raven> wow.
[05:10] <raven> i thot ext3 was still pretty new
[05:10] <Rubin> ext4 is in early alpha
[05:11] <Rubin> its not 'usable'
[05:11] <Neconide> Has anyone experienced the hardware manager not displaying drivers? My wireless USB adapter isn't displayed and won't search for networks.
[05:11] <mib_4xdqy3> it's 'gold' in the next kernel
[05:11] <_2> raven ext3 is not new.
[05:11] <Rubin> Neconide, try googling the model number and 'ubuntu' or 'linux' and see if its even supported
[05:11] <Guest75291> is there no longer a ##freebsd on freenode?
[05:11] <mib_4xdqy3> so I wouldn't consider it not 'usable' any more, but it is new
[05:11] <sf6> rubin: so does it make your ext3 partition into an ext2 partition? or does it just not use the journal, thus being somewhat unsafe?
[05:11] <raven> _2, well there was only ext2, then i didnt use linux much for a few years, then there was ext3..
[05:11] <Neconide> Rubin: it is
[05:11] <Neconide> Rubin: No USB devices are being displayed.
[05:12] <chubs> mib_4xdqy3: this is not the right channel to look for an ext4 expert
[05:12] <Rubin> Neconide, in lsusb?
[05:12] <_2> raven i was using ext3 in 2001 i think.
[05:12] <raven> mib_4xdqy3, perhaps #ext4? or #ext
[05:12] <mib_4xdqy3> chubs:: no one is around on the 'right' channels :(
[05:12] <Neconide> Rubin: yes
[05:12] <raven> mib_4xdqy3, try ##linux
[05:12] <Rubin> sf6: its not unsafe, just requires a fsck
[05:12] <mib_4xdqy3> or answering at least
[05:12] <bella> rubin ty im gonna read that and try to fix it ty for responding
[05:13] <Rubin> bella, wish i could make it easy for you, but trouble like that is one of the hardest things to deal with, if your new to linux :/
[05:14] <rdevabha> #ubuntu-india
[05:14] <Rubin> mib_4xdqy3, my understanding is that ext4 is only ready to be used at all by people that are developers of it. if your trying to troubleshoot a problem you are probably not advised to use it yet at all.
[05:15] <chubs> mib_4xdqy3: ah well, try the mailing lists. i doubt you'll have any luck in here
[05:15] <droopsta915> My startup session is linked to a secure remote connection file in the /usr/share folder, how can I unlink this file?
[05:15] <Neconide> Rubin: my bad, after researching (must of been a typo last time) It's not supported. Should http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6112069 work propperly or do you have any other suggestions for WUSB600N
[05:15] <sf6> Rubin: so does that mean an extremely long wait time for every boot up? Because I have a 160gb hard drive, it takes a long time to fsck that when it does so (though this computer is old, only has ata/66). or alternately forcing it not to fsck, which would be dangerous? that sounds pretty terrible to me.
[05:16] <godsyn> help : I'm wanting to "downgrade" an application (vlc). Is there a way to do so via APT? I'd like to return to 8.6 as 9.x doesn't transcode video nearly as well.
[05:16] <habit> Hello. I've updated to 8.10. How to use guest account?
[05:16] <_2> sf6 only "good" answer is simply "don't reboot"
[05:16] <Rubin> Neconide, i wouldnt follow that unless you kinda know what your doing. your better off researching a bit and spending $20 on one that is supported.
[05:16] <Guest40696> is there a way to sync my ipod with ubuntu?
[05:17] <Neconide> Rubin: well, what do you use?
[05:17] <LF|Irssi> whats the command to see how much hdd space you have left?
[05:17] <Rubin> godsyn, not easily
[05:17] <rdevabha> Hi  Hobbes  , Need a Help   i have a  UID:GID  as   1000:1000    and   i am  not able to create a  directory  under    /
[05:17] <Rubin> Neconide, my laptop has it built in
[05:17] <Rubin> LF|Irssi, df -h
[05:17] <Neconide> :(
[05:17] <LF|Irssi> ty
[05:17] <rdevabha> Hi  ALL   , Need a Help   i have a  UID:GID  as   1000:1000    and   i am  not able to create a  directory  under    /
[05:17] <eightvirtues> so i got a belkin wireless g router so my other computers could share connection, and now opera web browser works slow as crap... anyone got any ideas?
[05:17] <usser> rdevabha, use sudo
[05:17] <Rubin> rdevabha, sudo
[05:18] <godsyn> Rubin can you provide more info? i'm used to not easy (pure CLI here)
[05:18] <_2> !hardware > Neconide
[05:18] <Delvien> anyone else notice that FF is REALLY slow lately?
[05:18] <Rubin> eightvirtues, check your DNS server settings
[05:18] <Jordan_U> rdevabha: Why would you expect to be able to?
[05:18] <eightvirtues> ok, what should they be?
[05:18] <Neconide> ubottu: Thank you.
[05:19] <_2> !bot > Neconide
[05:19] <Neconide> >.>
[05:19] <Neconide> <.<
[05:19] <_2> :)
[05:19] <Rubin> godsyn, if the lower version is available in the repository, you can downgrade by removing it and forcing an install of the other one with dpkg maybe (dpkg -i file.deb) but its unlikely an old version is built with proper dependancies to even work. so then your left compiling it yourself, and compiling VLC is very hard, i have been told.
[05:19] <tyler___b> is there a way to sync my ipod with ubuntu?
[05:19] <godsyn> while it is a pita, i've done it before.. I'll just get to it again :/
[05:20] <Rubin> Gods_gift, you could try getting the 8.x deb source package and building that
[05:20] <_2> !ipod > tyler___b
[05:20] <therealnanotube> Delvien: yes... have you tried ff 3.1b?
[05:20] <droopsta915> My laptop wont login, somehow the session is linked to secure remote access folder in /usr/share. What can I do to unlink or edit a session ?
[05:20] <After_Math> Are cars, planes, telephones considered technology?
[05:20] <Delvien> therealnanotube: no, its beta.. it shouldnt work better than stable.
[05:20] <eightvirtues> ok, i have three dns servers listed
[05:21] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | After_Math
[05:21] <ech0dis1> working good with xfce so far
[05:21] <sf6> is anyone working on an ext3 driver for windows? if anyone knows.
[05:21] <therealnanotube> Delvien: i haven't tried it either, was just curious. :) but yea, my ff3.0.4 is all slow when scrolling when there's a lot of css and floating elements and crap in the page.
[05:21] <Rubin> droopsta915, your question doesnt make a lot of sense to me. can you provide exact error messages your getting, or screenshot or something?
[05:22] <Delvien> therealnanotube: mine "stops responding" whenever i click a link
[05:22] <_2> droopsta915 drop to a console "ctrl+alt+f1" and login there,   use commands to correct the problem.   and switch back to tty7  using "alt+f7" to test the gui login ...
[05:22] <therealnanotube> sf6: there is an ext2 driver, iirc, not sure about ext3
[05:22] <kodokbleduk> anyone know how to install fonts in intrepid?
[05:22] <therealnanotube> Delvien: oh heh, that's even worse.
[05:22] <Jordan_U> !fonts | kodokbleduk
[05:22] <eightvirtues> Rubin, this is about the belkin router and opera runing VERY slow, i checked the dns settings, i have three dns servers listed
[05:22] <Rubin> sf6: there isnt one, at least 6 months ago when i looked into it
[05:22] <Delvien> therealnanotube: yeah, FF is a real big piece of. .. right now
[05:22] <_2> droopsta915 specific commands will depend on specific problem.
[05:23] <Rubin> eightvirtues, are they correct? :)
[05:23] <jordo2323> Does anyone know how to use a PSP with Rhythmbox or another manager successfully?
[05:23] <eightvirtues> one is, the other two i have no idea what they are
[05:23] <sf6> so is the common solution to use ntfs for a data partition among dual booters then?
[05:23] <droopsta915> Rubin: let me get the error the laptop is restarting.
[05:23] <eightvirtues> should i delete the two that i dont recognize?
[05:24] <Rubin> sf6: as I said, i tried to make that dual boot shared partition thing work, and gave up. it can 'work' but i couldnt get it to work without a hassle all the time
[05:24] <kodokbleduk> ubotto, thanks.. but how we install additional font from what i've already download
[05:24] <Rubin> eightvirtues, wouldnt hurt to try
[05:24] <jordo2323> My PSP mounts just fine, but when transferring .mp3 files to it, the PSP system doesn't see them? What's the trick?
[05:24] <ardchoille> who was it that wanted to speed up firefox?
[05:24] <_2> sf6  a more common solution might be to use vfat "fat32"  but you can't put files larger than 2g on it.
[05:24] <mikematic> hi all. Im trying to get to the GRUB edit menu by pressing 'e' during startup of the OS. It wont go. It continues to load on Ubuntu. Am i missing something here ? Please help
[05:24] <sillyn00b> Anyone know of a way to share an encrypted storage partition between Ubuntu and Windows? I need to dual boot and I have a fairly small Hard drive and I need to encrypt my shared partition so that's what raises the question.
[05:25] <sf6> _2: fat32 would be worse than ext2 presumably, which the windows driver fully supports.
[05:25] <Rubin> mikematic, that grub menu is super advanced. if your just trying to change the grub menu, but arent a super commandline guy, thats not where you do it from
[05:25] <_2> sf6 both M$ and linux can fully access vfat natively.  and vfat stands hard reset much better than ext# or ntfs do.
[05:25] <mikematic> Rubin, How do you do it from a command line ?
[05:25] <Rubin> sillyn00b, there are very few tools that can do that cross platform like that
[05:26] <Rubin> mikematic, the file in /boot/grub/menu.1st is what controls that menu
[05:26] <_2> sf6 worse how ?
[05:26] <therealnanotube> sf6: fat32 is the most common fs for a "shared partition". ntfs can work too, now that linux has rw ntfs support, though.
[05:26] <sf6> _2: ntfs is worse for hard reset even with windows?
[05:26] <Rubin> mikematic, what are you up to exactly?
[05:26] <sillyn00b> Rubin: Know the name of one off hand?
[05:26] <seronis> ntfs is better for hard reset than fat32 in my experience
[05:26] <_2> sf6 in my experance,  yes.
[05:26] <sf6> _2: fat32 doesn't support >2gb files. or larger than something like 160gb partitions
[05:26] <Rubin> sillyn00b, trucrypt maybe? my memory is a bit foggy
[05:26] <advorak> does anybody have any experience with fluidsynth? I keep getting the error "fluidsynth: warning: Failed to pin the sample data to RAM; swapping is possible." and keep turning up dead-ends when trying to discover a solution ...
[05:27] <Neconide> anyone know how to get the WUSB600N working?
[05:27] <mikematic> Tnx Rubin. That file explains it.
[05:27] <habit> Hello. I've updated to 8.10. How to use guest account?
[05:27] <_2> sf6 correct.   and if those constraints are a problem.   might i sujest using ext2
[05:27] <Buster_Hymen> I'm using ubuntu server so I'm stuck with the command line... how do I make a particular app start at boot?
[05:27] <droopsta915> Rubin: when i type my username and password at login screen i get a remote connection prompt.
[05:27] <gobuntu> hey guys does anybody hellp me to install Need for Speed in Ubuntu..
[05:27] <gobuntu> plsss
[05:27] <Rubin> habit, right click the account/power icon in upper right corner, click guest session
[05:28] <_2> sf6  note NOT ext3  but ext2.
[05:28] <gobuntu> i really appreciate bout the answer
[05:28] <Rubin> droopsta915, did you maybe select remote x session in one of the gdm menus?
[05:28] <sf6> _2: ntfs support in linux sounds like it is fairly good, so that sounds better than ext2 maybe?
[05:28] <habit> Rubin, I have tryed that, but I can see only blank black screen.
[05:28] <duckabolo> [SOUND] - Hi i've just installed 8.10 now but have no sound after the login drumming..one please help?. could any
[05:28] <therealnanotube> gobuntu: it's a windows-only game right? so probably need to use wine. check the compatibility list on winehq.org first.
[05:28] <Rubin> gobuntu, check the wine compatibly list
[05:28] <_2> sf6 not in my openion.   but it's your openion that counts on your hardware :)
[05:29] <Rubin> sf6: probably
[05:29] <gobuntu> ahh  tnx guys
[05:29] <sillyn00b> Rubin: Yea I've been looking into truecrypt but I haven't found a linus version
[05:29] <gobuntu> im new in Ubuntu so i thought
[05:29] <gobuntu> hehehe
[05:29] <ironrose> does anyone know how to get sound workin on virualbox?
[05:29] <Rubin> sillyn00b, huh?? http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php  its right on that page
[05:29] <sf6> thanks Rubin, _2, and others. I will have to think about this...
[05:29] <metbsd> i wanna install kubuntu with network installation
[05:29] <metbsd> how to do it?
[05:30] <habit> ironrose, it must be working "out of the box", did you have checked vbox options?
[05:30] <droopsta915> Rubin: maybe, im not sure, i know wherethe secure remote access file is located, and I know the start session is somehow linked to this folder.
[05:30] <ironrose> yes
[05:30] <gobuntu> thnx  a lot therealnanotube and rubin whwe
[05:30] <Rubin> droopsta915, iv never heard of a 'secure remote access file'
[05:30] <ironrose> i tried ALL card options and stuff in vb settings
[05:30] <_2> sf6  i think there is rieserfs support for windows too,  you might look into that.
[05:30] <seronis> habit:  you can also optionally create a new normal user and then  'sudo gedit /etc/shadow'  from the command line and manually change the new password to  'U6aMy0wojraho'
[05:31] <droopsta915> if i tell u where it is, can u go check itout?
[05:31] <therealnanotube> gobuntu: no prob. :)
[05:31] <habit> ironrose, there are one checkbox swithcing on sound and two options - driver and controller.
[05:31] <ardchoille> !gksudo | seronis
[05:31] <Rubin> droopsta915, it might help me to understand what it is if you tell me the specifics, yeah.
[05:31] <ironrose> yes, those. i tried all combinations for driver and controller
[05:32] <Neconide> help: Does anyone have experience with getting the WUSB600N model working in Ubuntu?
[05:32] <seronis> ardchoille:  what does it do differently?   i've not had one problem yet with just  'sudo gedit'
[05:32] <ardchoille> seronis: read the webpage ubottu linked :)
[05:32] <djhash> hey.. gedit wont open files if they are for example binary or basically not plain text files.. I want a program that can either be a hex editor or will show me ascii representation of the binary..
[05:32] <habit> seronis, maybe you can advice me where I can read more about it?
[05:32] <_2> seronis sudo does not set the environment sufficiently for graphical applications
[05:33] <droopsta915> Rubin: ok, /usr/share/xsessions, the secure remote connection, click on it and this is what I get at the login when i start my laptop.
[05:33] <seronis> habit:  google for  'U6aMy0wojraho'   and it will give you articles on the subject
[05:33] <Rubin> djhash, check out gvim .. but read a tutorial before you dive in. its a bit steep to learn
[05:34] <ytoox> I am using banshee 1.4 on ubuntu intrepid and I got an mtp device connected to it. The device is recognized properly and sizes are right. But the problem is that on the display within banshee I can only see 150 artists when there are plenty more
[05:34] <ytoox> can you help me?
[05:34] <Rubin> droopsta915, did you paste the exact error message somewhere?
[05:34] <therealnanotube> djhash: or check out ghex for a hex editor...
[05:34] <duckabolo> [SOUND] - Hi i've just installed 8.10 now but have no sound after the login drumming.. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:35] <Rubin> duckabolo, did you run through the sound troubleshooter docs?
[05:35] <duckabolo> i've just installed xchat so that i could find the solution :)
[05:35] <ardchoille> !sound | duckabolo
[05:35] <droopsta915> Rubin: let me login failsafemode and ill pastebin the error.
[05:35] <Rubin> droopsta915, ok
[05:35] <droopsta915> Rubin: I will be named meyos, in the laptop
[05:36] <Neconide> help: Does anyone have experience with getting the WUSB600N model working in Ubuntu?
[05:36] <habit> Rubin, is it possible to fix guest user @ user-swither applet?
[05:36] <Rubin> habit: fix?
[05:37] <a1len> Hi guys. Is there anything that you type into the terminal to erase unused app files?
[05:37] <bullgard4> Disk Mounter applet shows the label of /dev/sda6 as 'WinLinux' but why does GParted not show this label also?
[05:37] <habit> Rubin, it's not working right now. What name must be new passwordless account without creating new one on that list?
[05:37] <a1len> that you installed with apt-get
[05:37] <seronis> on the topic of sound,  anyone have experience with the 2nd set of sliders under the alsa setting randomly muting itself ?
[05:37] <Rubin> habit: sorry I dont know how its set up. mine just worked all by itself
[05:38] <Rubin> a1len, apt-get clean, or apt-get autoremove
[05:38] <a1len> Rubin: Thanks :D
[05:38] <Rubin> a1len, depending on your meaning :)
[05:39] <wyrless2002> habit: mine didn't work either, I think there was a fix in Proposed software packages
[05:39] <a1len> Rubin: I'm trying to set up an MRA, and the first run I messed up the scripts, so I want to uninstall the MRA and all the files associated with it.
[05:39] <jordo2323> Does anyone know how to transfer music to a PSP in Ubuntu?
[05:39] <jordo2323> It mounts fine, but won't see music transferred....
[05:39] <Rubin> a1len, yeah. uninstall it first, then do the autoremove one.
[05:39] <mwhit74> amarok doesn't open any suggestions
[05:39] <therealnanotube> mwhit74: open something else. :)
[05:40] <Rubin> mwhit74, try running it from a terminal, maybe it will print something
[05:40] <skylarS> how to copy all files from with dir A to dir B from command line?
[05:40] <therealnanotube> skylarS: "cp -r"
[05:40] <djhash> ok.. so why does ubuntu auto mounts my thumbdrive even I specifically told it to unmount it... I unmount and it remounts.. I unmount and it remounts.. how am I supposed to properly use gparted!!!!
[05:40] <Rubin> skylarS, many ways. you should read a bunch of man pages, but cp -a, or rsync -a are first to spring to my mind
[05:40] <Safe> I know this is not an mplayer help room, but does anyone know how Mplayer reads playlists? Like .m3u, textfiles, etc?
[05:41] <Rubin> djhash, sounds like a bug
[05:41] <Rubin> djhash, its not supposed to do that
[05:41] <mwhit74> Rubin: how?
[05:41] <wyrless2002> jordo2323: are they named .mp3?
[05:41] <mrg_> i should be able to ping a fresh ubuntu 8.10 box from another machine on the network right?
[05:41] <Rubin> mwhit74, applications, accessories, terminal. type amarok
[05:41] <nkriz> hello all. just installed 8.10 on an older system. starts up to login screen, allows logon, then goes to a blank background then never fills in any icons etc...   any thoughts on what i can change?
[05:42] <Rubin> mrg_, yes, theres no ping blocking firewall by default or anything
[05:42] <K`zan> LF|Irssi: No, I'm not, think I found something agp that will do better than the 6600GT/128M I have now.  Still thinking I might be wiser to save the $$$ for a PCIE system.  BUT for what is left in AGP, the ATI cards have better performance (so it seems).
[05:42] <therealnanotube> nkriz: try running in safe gfx mode ?
[05:42] <jordo2323> wyrless2002, yep....all .mp3....the device mounts just fine, but when yo copy files to that partition, it doesn't see anything...
[05:42] <Rubin> nkriz, often that blank screen means it was having trouble writing to your home direcotry
[05:42] <nkriz> i tried the failsafe gnome mode, did the same thing
[05:42] <skylarS> ty Rubin , therealnanotube
[05:43] <nkriz> rubin: the home directory is on a second partition. could that be the problem?
[05:43] <Rubin> nkriz, or maybe /tmp
[05:43] <Rubin> nkriz, sure could be
[05:43] <mrg_> Rubin:  and there's something running that returns the ping by default too right?
[05:43] <ghaith> Rubin, i think gnome gives a warning when /home is nto accessible
[05:43] <mwhit74> Rubin: i get nothing from the terminal
[05:43] <blak> Is anyone using eee-control, and has had an issue with it saying the "performance" setting is "unavailable"? This was made by Grigori Goronzy...
[05:43] <Rubin> mrg_, thats built into the kernel
[05:43] <Rubin> mwhit74, hrm
[05:43] <PUNISHER> hi all
[05:43] <Rubin> ghaith, it depends...
[05:43] <nkriz> rubin: i can get to a terminal. can i create a home directory on my own and have it work?
[05:43] <nikitis> Question:  I'm trying to use gparted.  And i have an extra drive i'm trying to install windows on.  I want to format it to NTFS.  On my laptop I can format a drive to ntfs with gparted, but on my desktop, it's greyed out for ntfs.  What's the deal and how can I fix it?
[05:44] <mwhit74> Rubin: you advised me to run amarok in the terminal and nothing happened
[05:44] <Rubin> nkriz, you can at least check things out and make sure they are there, and writable etc
[05:44] <Rubin> mwhit74, sorry, i meant 'hrm i dont know' not 'hrm what are you talking about'
[05:44] <wyrless2002> jordo2323: have you seen or tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-812514.html
[05:44] <therealnanotube> nkriz: not gnome safe mode, but safe graphics mode in X (i.e., using the vesa video driver). but check the stuff rubin suggests too.
[05:44] <mwhit74> Rubin: oh sorry
[05:45] <mrg_> Rubin: any ideas why i can't ping this machine then?  i used "ifconfig" and got my ip addy.  then i'm using another box to ping it, and the ping fails.  both have internet connections working.
[05:45] <ghaith> nkriz, was there a linux system before ubuntu? with the same username
[05:45] <nkriz> i think i'm going to reinstall with /home on the same partition. I think i messed up my permissions when i did that. thanks all!
[05:45] <Rubin> mrg_, youll have to describe your network more i guess
[05:45] <meyos> Rubin: its droopsta915-here is the pastebin-http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/74649/
[05:45] <mwhit74> Rubin: its been working on and off since i installed it, and ideas
[05:45] <jordo2323> will try
[05:45] <nkriz> ghaith, it's been linux since the beginning, but the last install was debian
[05:45] <jordo2323> wyrless2002, will try
[05:47] <mrg_> Rubin: it's just two machines connected to the same router box (dinky standard dsl box).  i will check if they can see each other when both run windows i suppose to see if it's a physical problem.
[05:47] <Rubin> meyos, where did lines 1 through 5 come from exactly? you get some kind of text box when you try to log in?
[05:47] <Rubin> mrg_, have both try to ping the router
[05:47] <ghaith> ok go in terminal and try to give access to your user then..i used to have problems with home directory when i switched distros, but usually i got warnings about inaccessible files
[05:47] <ghaith> @nkr
[05:48] <mrg_> Rubin: hm, good idea. the linux box fails to ping the router.  i have two ethernet ports on it and only one is configured/being used.  maybe it's trying to ping out of the wrong one?
[05:48] <Rubin> mrg_, ifconfig should tell you if theres a link
[05:49] <Rubin> mrg_, though, i guess thats driver dependant...
[05:49] <mrg_> Rubin: i know it sees the router somehow bc it connects fine to the internet via that router. i'll check ifconfig output.. not sure how to see if there's a link
[05:49] <Rubin> oh
[05:49] <meyos> Rubin: After I try logging in I get the remote access box, when i hit enter, i see the error message. these are the details.
[05:50] <Rubin> mrg_, hmm. paste the output of ifconfig, and route -n on both boxes to pastebin.ca
[05:50] <Rubin> meyos, before you log in, there is an option menu.
[05:50] <Rubin> meyos, did you look in there?
[05:51] <mrg_> Rubin: http://pastebin.ca/1262065
[05:51] <meyos> Rubin: what should i look for?
[05:51] <mikebot> Does anyone know why my audio won't work in firefox even though I have no other programs open using audio? (Or does anyone know how I can test to see why this is the case?)
[05:51] <bullgard4> Disk Mounter applet shows the label of /dev/sda6 as 'WinLinux' but why does GParted not show this label also?
[05:52] <mrg_> Rubin: that's the linux box, the other pings the router fine (and is running winxp)
[05:52] <PUNISHER> Hi everyone!
[05:52] <PUNISHER> how are yoU?
[05:52] <PUNISHER> men!!
[05:52] <Rubin> meyos, mine has a 'remote xdmc' option
[05:52] <Rubin> meyos, sorta feels like you toggled that by mistake
[05:52] <mikebot> Or does anyone know anything pertaining to using sound in firefox?
[05:52] <Rubin> mrg_, winXP may not respond to pings by default...
[05:53] <Rubin> mrg_, why does eth1 have an IP address?
[05:53] <mrg_> Rubin: i'm trying to ping ubuntu box from winxp
[05:53] <meyos> Rubin: going back to droopsta915 user, ill see if i can change the session.
[05:53] <droopsta915> Rubin: be back after restart.
[05:54] <mrg_> Rubin: i'll try removing all config from that unused eth port, ok.
[05:54] <paul68> Hi you have the possibility to add your ip table execution script in your interfaces file and then you should be able to excecute the script however this doesn't seem to work when you use a server (or most likely I do something wrong) can someone help me out with this
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[05:55] <Rubin> paul68, its been a really long time since i played with that. I'm pretty sure it works. have you looked at the docs for the interfaces file?
[05:56] <Rubin> mrg_, are you using dhcp on those? or hard-coding them?
[05:56] <sohue> hi
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[05:56] <mrg_> Rubin: i did "ifconfig eth0 down".. just making sure this is ok  ?
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[05:57] <mrg_> Rubin: hard coded
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[05:57] <blak> Anyone using eee-control on 8.10 having a problem with the performance settings being available?
[05:57] <Rubin> mrg_, that is ok, but generally i'd do 'ifdown eth0' then edit /etc/network/interfaces, then 'ifup eth0' .. thats the 'debian way' (and ubuntu is based on debian)
[05:57] <mikebot> What is the minimum amount of time I should wait before re-asking a question?
[05:57] <Rubin> mikebot, i'm not sure on the rules, but if you dont get an answer, i would try posting on the forums
[05:57] <paul68> Rubin: I read this article http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-security/43065-iptables-start-boot-debian3-1-a.html see last post however I work with the terminal so I don't have network manager
[05:58] <mikebot> Rubin: The forum is just so slow.. do you knwo anythign about audio in ubuntu?
[05:59] <Rubin> paul68, did you make the script you created executable with chmod?
[05:59] <binarymutant> mikebot, are you using alsa?
[05:59] <Rubin> mikebot, only a little. i remember seeing a thing on the ubunt site with really in-depth audio troubleshooting guide though. or did you try that already?
[05:59] <mikebot> binarymutant: I'm not sure--I don't know what that is.
[06:00] <paul68> Rubin: yes I did
[06:00] <mikebot> Rubin: I have not tried that.
[06:00] <mrg_> Rubin: /etc/network/interfaces ... just change address to <IP_ADDRESS> or what?  how about the line "auto eth0"  ?
[06:00] <Rubin> paul68, so in the terminal, if you do 'ifdown eth0' and then 'ifup eth0' does it print any errors?
[06:00] <binarymutant> mikebot, sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[06:01] <Rubin> mrg_, to make it dhcp?
[06:01] <mikebot> binarymutant: What is that?
[06:01] <Rubin> mrg_, you'd change 'static' to 'dhcp' and delete all the address, netmask, network, etc configuration lines
[06:01] <mrg_> Rubin: nah, just to have eth0 inactivated and make sure it's not getting in the way
[06:01] <binarymutant> mikebot, it installs alsa, the linux sound server
[06:01] <Rubin> mrg_, oh. remove eth0 auto line, and comment out everything to do with it
[06:01] <binarymutant> mikebot, just type it into a terminal
[06:02] <mikebot> binarymutant: alsa-base is already the newest version.
[06:02] <mrg_> Rubin: ok thanks. will try that.
[06:02] <mikebot> binarymutant: Same for the other.
[06:02] <binarymutant> mikebot, type alsamixer into a terminal since it's installed
[06:02] <droopsta915> Rubin: no I get the same box, not in xdmc, go to /usr/share/xsession and open the remot connection so you can see what box im talking about
[06:02] <mikebot> binarymutant: Got it.
[06:03] <binarymutant> mikebot, if it says MM it's muted, 00 if it's not
[06:03] <mrg_> Rubin: comment = "#" ?
[06:03] <Rubin> droopsta915, in /usr/share/xsession/ there are 2 shortcut files. they are not ment to be run directly
[06:03] <mikebot> binarymutant: Says 00
[06:03] <rand0mabo> does anyone know of an html editor/web-development tool (preferably something close to as powerful as dreamweaver?)
[06:03] <Rubin> rand0mabo, vim
[06:03] <Rubin> rand0mabo, :P
[06:04] <droopsta915> i might have to reinstall if i dont fix it
[06:04] <Rubin> droopsta915, try moving that file to another name
[06:04] <Rubin> droopsta915, dont re-install. worst case you can move your home directory away and create an empty one
[06:04] <mikebot> binarymutant: My audio works--I'm listening to something in VLC right now... It's just that it doesn't work from firefox. Even if there is no other application open playing audio.
[06:05] <rand0mabo> a shitty answer is still a shitty answer - even with a :P
[06:05] <rand0mabo> :D
[06:05] <Rubin> mikebot, when you say firefox, you mean flash?
[06:05] <mikebot> Rubin: Yes, a flash plugin in firefox, sorry.
[06:05] <Rubin> rand0mabo, its :P because i know you wont like it. but its a real answer, because do web dev and i use it almost exclusively.
[06:06] <droopsta915> Rubin:des ubuntu have a restore point option?
[06:06] <binarymutant> mikebot, ok I'm trying to find where you can change the sound in firefox, if your using flash it sometimes screws up, but not everytime
[06:06] <mrg_> Rubin: that did it... somehow that unused eth port was causing the pings to fail... i wonder why that would have anything to do with it since all my communication is going (correctly) through the other ethernet port.. ?
[06:06] <Rubin> mikebot, if you search on trouble with pulseaudio and flash plugin, you may have some good hits. mine worked out of the box though.
[06:06] <Rubin> droopsta915, no
[06:06] <mikebot> binarymutant: Thank you.
[06:06] <mikebot> Rubin: Thanks.
[06:06] <rand0mabo> Rubin, i know full-well what your intention was.. I'm glad you take the time to code by hand if it serves your purpose.
[06:06] <Compiz_WOOT> Does anyone know if the airplane plugin is built into ACSM? I am using Compiz-Fusion and trying to find the airplane plugin but don't know where to download it and Google isn't showing much... Didn't see anthing about it in the ACSM manger
[06:06] <rand0mabo> thanks for your help
[06:06] <lby> Anyone known CPUS programing ?
[06:08] <Rubin> rand0mabo, theres nothing for linux nearly as full featured as dreamweaver.  bluefish, aptana, seamonkey's wysiwyg i think called kompozer
[06:08] <binarymutant> mikebot, have you tried restarting firefox?
[06:08] <rand0mabo> Rubin, Quanta Plus and Nvu no good?  they seem to be at the top of lists i'm finding on google but *shrug*
[06:08] <mikebot> binarymutant: Yes.
[06:09] <Rubin> rand0mabo, i owned a real commercial copy of quanta at one time. its okay.. but no wysiwyg and hasnt really been improved lately
[06:09] <rand0mabo> fair enough
[06:09] <Rubin> and, if you dont need a wysiwyg, then vim may be more reasonable answer yet ;)
[06:10] <rand0mabo> I'm still quite new to ubuntu - not at all ready for command line web design yet
[06:10] <rand0mabo> heh
[06:10] <mikebot> binarymutant: Ah you know what, I think I'm able to just download the file from the site, so I guess I'm alright.
[06:10] <ardchoille> rand0mabo: I use gedit to write all my web pages, it has some nice features including syntax hilighting
[06:11] <binarymutant> sorry I couldn't help, this stuff used to be a lot easier in firefox 2
[06:11] <Rubin> rand0mabo, ahh. let me share a lil story with you about vim. http://www.mit.edu/~yandros/doc/tc-hack-zen.html
[06:12] <rand0mabo> haha i don't intend to achieve zen-like states while coding. thx.. my life expands a bit beyond internets
[06:12] <mikebot> binarymutant: No worries, thanks for trying, I really do appreciate it.
[06:12] <mikebot> binarymutant: Have a good night. Cheers
[06:12] <duckabolo> hi, does anyone know how i can find out the alsa version, (command etc)
[06:13] <mikebot> Rubin: Thanks again, goodnight.
[06:13] <binarymutant> mikebot, did you try killall -9 esd yet?
[06:13] <Rubin> rand0mabo, read past the hippy bs in there. the point is that in vi, you can move around and work without taking yoru hand off the keyboard and your eyes off your code; this results in much higher productivity once you get the muscle memory. anyway off topic for here, but dont discount it so easily.
[06:13] <duckabolo> rubin: it seems my alsa isn't in the supported list :(
[06:13] <Rubin> duckabolo, oh no
[06:14] <Rubin> duckabolo, er. what? alsa is a sound driver framework isn't it?
[06:14] <Dabbu> how to install GTK+ theme engine ?
[06:15] <rand0mabo> Rubin, I meant nothing by it.  We're just sort of going way beyond my needs/intentions when getting into that.  But I do understand, and appreciate your input
[06:15] <duckabolo> rubin: my soundcard isn't supported by alsa
[06:15] <duckabolo> rubin: i've checked http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main  and ich9 isn't there
[06:15] <Daisuke_Ido> there are sound cards not supported by alsa?
[06:16] <Rubin> rand0mabo, elaborate on your needs some more?
[06:16] <kindofabuzz> anyone use startupmanager?
[06:16] <unr3a1> hey all
[06:17] <Rubin> duckabolo, hmm. i'm not real knowledgable about sound, sorry
[06:17] <unr3a1> I am trying to run UT2004
[06:17] <unr3a1> and I am getting an error
[06:17] <duckabolo> rubin: i did an lspci and the following audio ...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/74655/
[06:17] <duckabolo> rubin; that's fine
[06:17] <unr3a1> it says that there is an error when trying to load shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: no such file or directory
[06:18] <unr3a1> does anyone know what could have caused this error?
[06:18] <kindofabuzz> install libstdc++?
[06:18] <unr3a1> I tried, but apt-get said that the package could not be found
[06:18] <Rubin> unr3a1, that means you do not have the binary library on the system which that program was compiled to need
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> it's there
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> i just searched, sever versions of libstdc++
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> several
[06:19] <rand0mabo> Rubin, my needs need no elaboration.  In my original question by simply stating, "something along the lines of dreamweaver", i think would suffice to say i'm walking on very very simple lines.
[06:19] <Rubin> unr3a1, try: apt-get install libstdc++5
[06:19] <unr3a1> well, apt-get doesn't have it.  means I am gonna have to compile from source...
[06:19] <unr3a1> rubin: hold
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> aptitude install libstdc++5
[06:19] <unr3a1> that worked.
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> unr3a1, apt does have it
[06:19] <unr3a1> how do you search the servers for the file?
[06:20] <rand0mabo> Rubin, no worries, i can tell you're just quite adept with all this stuff and probably don't even remember the simple-side to linux :P
[06:20] <rand0mabo> just way way way above my head :)
[06:20] <Rubin> rand0mabo, yes but failing dreamweaver clone, are you doing strict html dev? do you need the live preview and/or wysiwyg aspects of it? or is it the menu/button macro stuff you want?
[06:20] <Rubin> rand0mabo, come on i'm not that far in the clouds
[06:20] <rand0mabo> Rubin, to be honest, i like just copying & pasting and seeing atleast an immediate idea of what it'll look like finished - without having to save, upload, test
[06:20] <rand0mabo> Rubin,  haha that's not at all what i'm saying.. it's more than i'm near the bottom of the ocean :P
[06:20] <kindofabuzz> unr3a1, in synaptic hit search
[06:21] <rand0mabo> <-- win xp user pretending to figure out linux by using ubuntu
[06:21] <rand0mabo> avoiding command lines at all costs
[06:21] <Rubin> rand0mabo, try out seamonkey composer
[06:21] <kindofabuzz> command line, aptitude search <file>
[06:22] <rand0mabo> Yeah I just installed it - it pretty much suits my needs.  Perhaps when I feel like stretching my limits a bit, i'll look at vim a bit more in depth.  the little bit i read when googling it blew my mind so....
[06:22] <Rubin> rand0mabo, oh, and theres another i forgot about ,called 'screem' but i can't remember if it had previewing
[06:22] <ardchoille> rand0mabo: I used to be that way until I learned that command line is faster and more powerful, now I prefer command line work :)
[06:22] <kindofabuzz> rand0mabo, you should attempt to learn, you will get to the point to do things which is alot quicker than gui's
[06:22] <unr3a1> ok
[06:22] <unr3a1> I got it to run
[06:22] <Rubin> rand0mabo, you'll turn to the dark side eventually, i'v no worries :P
[06:23] <unr3a1> however, there is no sound, and when I go into the display settings, it looks are fubarred up...
[06:23] <unr3a1> and I got this at the terminal:  http://rafb.net/p/gQoGo626.html
[06:23] <rand0mabo> haha the time i'd spend in the learning curve wouldn't be worth it in the long run.. i just make simple little websites for fun.
[06:23] <rand0mabo> i have yet to actually upload one
[06:23] <kindofabuzz> anyone use startupmanager?
[06:23] <kindofabuzz> rand0mabo, use gedit
[06:23] <rand0mabo> apparently you missed the beginning of the conversation
[06:23] <rand0mabo> but thanks
[06:24] <Rubin> gedit is graphical :P
[06:24] <rand0mabo> oh pardon me then
[06:24] <kindofabuzz> huh?
[06:24] <kindofabuzz> no, it's a text editor
[06:24] <unr3a1> what is XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD extension?
[06:24] <rand0mabo> kindofabuzz, i knew that.  hence the underlying smugness of my reply
[06:25] <photomaniac> how do you install a gtk engine that comes as a tar.gz
[06:25] <Rubin> unr3a1, sorry you may have to try a UT forum or something for that
[06:25] <kindofabuzz> if you can't do html in an editor before you go to an IDE, you shouldn't even be doing it, the web has enough crappy sits already. just my 2 cents
[06:26] <Rubin> photomaniac, for a theme?
[06:26] <Rubin> photomaniac, system->appearance, theme tab, install...
[06:26] <unr3a1> hmm
[06:26] <unr3a1> it doesn't seem that UT runs in a full screen mode
[06:26] <chubs> rand0mabo: yeah screem works well
[06:26] <unr3a1> causing the app to still have my appbar at the top to display
[06:27] <photomaniac> Yes. a friend of mine is new to ubuntu and he is trying to install a maclooking theme that requires the aqua gtk engine and he found it and is trying to install
[06:27] <Rubin> photomaniac, ohhhhhh
[06:28] <Rubin> photomaniac, does the site you got it from not have some instructions?
[06:29] <photomaniac> also just for personal clarification how do you install a program/application that is a tar file.
[06:29] <photomaniac> he didn't find any instructions on the theme. i havn't looked at it yet.
[06:29] <Rubin> photomaniac, tar files are like zip files. you untar them with the 'tar' command in the terminal, or with the archive manager
[06:30] <Rubin> photomaniac, for example, if it was a tar.gz (or tgz) its also compressed, you'd do: tar -xzf myfile.tgz
[06:30] <unr3a1> alright, well, thank you for all the help
[06:30] <Rubin> and that would put its contents into wherever you were when you ran it
[06:30] <photomaniac> k thanks. what are the xzf options that you listed.
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> man tar
[06:31] <ardchoille> photomaniac: x=extract, z=gzip compression, f=file
[06:31] <Rubin> photomaniac, BUT, i think for some gtk theme stuff, it accepts the theme in the tar without extracting it. so you will have to research it (or maybe someone else knows better than me)
[06:31] <lby> 这里大家都在说英语
[06:31] <shirish> how do I find my Xserver version?
[06:32] <shirish> X --version doesn't work :(
[06:32] <ardchoille> xorg -version
[06:32] <photomaniac> Rubin, thanks for the info. i have also seen instructions for some of the programs that have you ./configure and set a prefix and then use the make command and then the make install command. what is the diffence and which is the best way to do it.
[06:32] <binarymutant> shirish, you do apt-cache showpkg xserver-xorg
[06:32] <binarymutant> could* do
[06:32] <n8tuser> shirish  xdpyinfo
[06:33] <shirish> netuser: thank you
[06:34] <darkdeeper> y do my pidgin alwiz chesh
[06:34] <Rubin> photomaniac, that process with the ./configure is 'compiling'
[06:34] <sparq__> I have a problem with mysql(lamp). I seem to have forgotten my root password. how can I reset it?
[06:34] <Rubin> photomaniac, you almost always want to not do that, but instead find the ubuntu specific package for things instead. its easy to break your system if you compile and install things yourself as root (unless you kinda know what your doing)
[06:34] <Firefishe> I have an Asus G50V laptop with an Intel 8281l (ICH9) sound chip.  I have only a small amount of static in my headphones.  Volumes are up all the way and I've configured everything to the nines.  I'm at a loss.
[06:34] <darkdeeper> reinstall ur lamp
[06:35] <sparq__> reinstall? :X
[06:35] <Rubin> sparq__, do you have data in mysql you care about?
[06:35] <sparq__> no
[06:35] <sparq__> I dont
[06:35] <mrg_> Rubin: well, thanks for the help :)  can finally get some sleep.
[06:36] <photomaniac> Rubin, do most programs in the form of tar need compiling or do some of them do it with the tar command. sometimes its hard for me to find the packages or programs i want in a .deb
[06:36] <Rubin> sparq__, apt-get remove --purge mysql-server; then delete /var/lib/mysql, then install it again.
[06:36] <darkdeeper> Firefishe, got the same problem... nvr actually tot tat would be a problem to... i just ignore it.. dont use it to play movie tho.. but if someone help. would be nice tooo
[06:36] <sparq__> kk
[06:36] <Rubin> photomaniac, tar is just a collection of files
[06:36] <sparq__> Rubin: thanks
[06:36] <Firefishe> darkdeeper:  I need my sound ;)
[06:36] <Rubin> photomaniac, .deb is a package for debian or ubuntu
[06:36] <Rubin> photomaniac, .tar is completely generic can be anything else
[06:37] <ardchoille> photomaniac: you really should check the repos before compiling, the repos for Ubuntu are huge and the app you want might be in there; apt-cache search app_name
[06:37] <darkdeeper> most tar program need to be compile
[06:37] <darkdeeper> well actually all of them
[06:37] <droopsta915> what should my window login be set to, xscript or gnome?
[06:37] <Rubin> darkdeeper, i have a tar here with photos from a party. that doesnt make any sense.
[06:37] <Rubin> droopsta915, gnome
[06:37] <photomaniac> Rubin, i have been trying to get my card reader going so that i can use it to access my military site and almost all of the packages are installable through the package manager but i havent found how to configure them with out compiling from a tar.
[06:38] <darkdeeper> Rubin, its not a program dude....
[06:38] <Rubin> photomaniac, that may be an activity you'll have to get pretty familiar with linux to accomplish
[06:38] <darkdeeper> photomaniac, how bout if we try it for u...hehehe
[06:39] <Rubin> photomaniac, how are you on the commandline? :)
[06:39] <photomaniac> Rubin, thanks for those apt options i always thought that the apt-get install would find any available packages you ask for.
[06:39] <darkdeeper> photomaniac, yeah rubin is right.. sometimes tar dont have compile or make or make install... so this is something you have to exprience ur self how to get past it
[06:40] <photomaniac> im ok with command line. i can find my way around directories and with instruction can usually figure out most commands. my problem is understanding the man pages for the commands i am trying to work with.
[06:40] <Rubin> most source code is distributed in a tar. but you cant say that most tars are source code.
[06:40] <Rubin> photomaniac, man pages are like wine. you kinda grow into them with practice
[06:41] <darkdeeper> what the fish
[06:41] <n8tuser> tar is just the newer form of ar or archiving with additional features of compressions and additional stuff
[06:41] <darkdeeper> man page like wine?u mean the wine program or the wine that u drink..
[06:41] <Rubin> photomaniac, (by that i mean, i understand, i remember hating them when i started out, but now i love them and really appreciate their breivity)
[06:41] <Rubin> darkdeeper, drink :)
[06:41] <darkdeeper> Rubin, not tats make a lot of sense...
[06:41] <Dominik2> is there a "better" alternative to wine?
[06:42] <darkdeeper> Dominik2, what type of wine.. drink or program?
[06:42] <photomaniac> Rubin, I understand the basics of them but i tend to have trouble understanding the syntax examples they have.
[06:42] <Rubin> Dominik2, crossover office is a commercial version based on wine that has slightly more support for some microsoft applications
[06:43] <Rubin> photomaniac, only way to learn is to read em a few times and ask someone.
[06:43] <Rubin> Dominik2, you can also run windows in a box on your desktop (or seamless) using virtualbox
[06:43] <darkdeeper> Dominik2, virtualbox or vmware
[06:44] <arpi> Hi I have installed 8.10 with wubi strangely DVD playback, rhythmbox visualization and totem visualisation are all jerky. (I have all the necessary codecs for dvd) Has anybody ideas?
[06:44] <n8tuser> photomaniac -> you can star with ar to get a feel
[06:44] <n8tuser> start*
[06:44] <Rubin> wow. iv been using *nix for 10+ years and I never heard of 'ar' till just now.
[06:44] <photomaniac> i just now found out this irc thing and it is great. i am one of the few people in my dorm and school who uses linux and finding someone who knows command line well and has the time to explain the man pages
[06:44] <Rubin> thanks n8tuser :)
[06:44] <photomaniac> what is ar
[06:45] <n8tuser> photomaniac -> ar for archiving, you can man ar  to get more detailed explanation
[06:45] <andiboy> hello everybody
[06:45] <Dominik2> thanks guys, but do I really have to run the entire OS? all I really wanna do is get the MS suit to work, and wine isn't to great about that
[06:45] <andiboy> someone here familiar with pam.d?
[06:46] <photomaniac> n8tusr, thanks i will look into it.
[06:46] <Rubin> Dominik2, crossover runs word, excel, and powerpoint from office 2003 fairly well.
[06:46] <photomaniac> im almost out of time so i have to go. thanks for all the help everyone!
[06:46] <Rubin> Dominik2, if you want 2007 to work, you gotta emulate the whole OS
[06:47] <Rubin> Dominik2, have you considered openoffice.org instead?
[06:47] <Dominik2> Rubin: is that that vista bull? im not good with the version numbers
[06:47] <Dominik2> Rubin: crossover?
[06:47] <Rubin> Dominik2, http://www.codeweavers.com/
[06:47] <apostle> my webcam is really dark...can someone help?
[06:47] <Dominik2> Rubin: yes I have, it is the photomanager that draws my GF back to the MS suite
[06:48] <n8tuser> Rubin -> really? you've never heard of ar eh? well just an fyi, after tar, and java came out, they have  jar  :)
[06:48] <Rubin> Dominik2, has she trie picasa?
[06:48] <Rubin> n8tuser, isnt jar just a zip file ?
[06:48] <Kudi> can sum1 send me an invite: irc.p2p-net.eu
[06:49] <n8tuser> Rubin -> its pretty much like tar but has perhaps additional features for  metapackage info..
[06:49] <Dominik2> what? crossover is not open source?
[06:49] <n8tuser> or metadatabase..
[06:49] <Rubin> Dominik2, its commercial ($$)
[06:49] <n8tuser> like manifest
[06:49] <Dominik2> Rubin: picasa is online isn't it?
[06:49] <darkdeeper> how bout tar?
[06:49] <Rubin> Dominik2, it has a linux native client, if i recall
[06:50] <Rubin> Dominik2, http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[06:50] <Dominik2> oh well, will it help wine if I supply it all the dlls that come with windows?
[06:51] <Rubin> Dominik2, theres also a photo manager called f-spot but i dont like it
[06:51] <shinoj> Dominik2 what programme are you trying to install with wine?
[06:51] <ardchoille> Rubin: you might like gthumb better
[06:52] <Rubin> Dominik2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569328
[06:52] <Rubin> ardchoille, i baught a copy of bibble lite, and started shooting in RAW, so im set now
[06:52] <ardchoille> ok
[06:54] <Dominik2> picasa is huge.. and my internet is poor man's internet
[06:55] <ardchoille> Is there a way to hide the tabs in gedit
[06:55] <ardchoille> ?
[06:55] <Dominik2> how is corssover different from wine?
[06:56] <smoothtexan> hey everyone
[06:56] <koshari> ardchoille how would one select between tabs if they were hidden?
[06:57] <kenneth> Hello everyone, I have a quick (hopefully) question.  I need to know how to change a desktop icon from the terminal.  I know how to change it via the GUI (right-click>properties>click icon>etc.) but I can't seem to figure out how to do it via a terminal command.  Can anyone help me?
[06:57] <smoothtexan> i was wondering if someone could help me with a bug that has been submitted
[06:57] <smoothtexan> its bug 275345
[06:58] <ardchoille> koshari: View > Side Pane
[07:00] <arpi> Hi I have installed 8.10 with wubi strangely DVD playback, rhythmbox visualization and totem visualisation are all jerky. (I have all the necessary codecs for dvd) Has anybody ideas?