[00:00] <nszceta> maybe paulzz can install a newer kernel
[00:00] <nszceta> shouldn't break much if anything
[00:00] <nszceta> upgrade kernel and install LXC and then do all your heavy lifting in the containers
[00:00] <Thev> how do i install linux from the boot
[00:00] <Thev> computer is way to slow to boot from the live cd
[00:00] <nszceta> wot
[00:01] <Thev> so is there a way i cant just start the installation
[00:01] <nszceta> ?????
[00:01] <nszceta> Thev: how much RAM do you have in this computer
[00:01] <Thev> its a pentium 3 at 512mb ram
[00:01] <nszceta> btw Thev you can dd the image to a usb key and try to start it that way
[00:01] <Thev> but it just stays stuck at checking battery stat
[00:01] <godbod>  Hello everyone.
[00:01] <Thev> this old laptop doesnt have a usb port
[00:02] <nszceta> Thev: what ubuntu version
[00:02] <nszceta> its probably stuck as in totally stuck so you might need to try an alternative ubuntu image or even another distro
[00:02] <Thev> well its based on ubuntu i burned bodhi since i need something somall
[00:02] <Thev> since this comp can only read cd's
[00:03] <nszceta> I would highly recommend Arch Linux for such a slow computer
[00:03] <Thev> so i hit ctrol alt f11
[00:03] <k1l> try with a lubuntu iso.
[00:03] <Thev> but i dont know the command to start the install
[00:03] <nszceta> for what
[00:03] <k1l> that is the best you can do, beside trying a minimal install. but i dont think your system got PAE anyways
[00:04] <Thev> cant do lubuntu the image is 700
[00:05] <Thev> wont fit on cd
[00:05] <godbod>  what is lubuntu?
[00:05] <Thev> im currently at this commandline bodhi@bodhi:~$
[00:05] <paulzz> what is the default gcc version in 14.04? is it 4.9?
[00:05] <Thev> but was wondering if there is a command to start the install i cna type at that
[00:05] <nszceta> wtf
[00:06] <nszceta> this isn't ubuntu Thev
[00:06] <nszceta> you need to go to the support channel for your distro
[00:06] <Thev> sigh no one is there
[00:06] <nszceta> damn man
[00:06] <nszceta> you might want to consider giving up on that distro in that case
[00:06] <nszceta> no community = no solutions to problems
[00:07] <Thev> well i dont know any distro small enough
[00:07] <nszceta> what happens when you try ubuntu or its spin Lubuntu
[00:07] <k1l> !lubuntu > godbod
[00:07] <Thev> lol i cant since those images are 700mb
[00:07] <Thev> wont fit on a cd
[00:07] <nszceta> yes they do
[00:08] <Thev> cd is of 700mb only?
[00:08] <k1l> Thev: we cant support other OS in here. so please ask the support from that OS you use
[00:08] <nszceta> Thev: CD is 700 MB
[00:08] <nszceta> if your burner complains, turn on overburning
[00:08] <nszceta> burn at slow speed, 1x
[00:08] <Thev> k
[00:08] <Thev> ima download ubuntu
[00:08] <nszceta> k
[00:09] <Thev> but can i install ubuntut without booting form that live cd
[00:09] <Seveas> stick it on a usb drive
[00:09] <Thev> computer doenst have a usb drive
[00:09] <k1l> i doubt the old machine can boot from usb
[00:09] <Thev> and i just checked ubuntu is 900mb
[00:10] <Thev> it wont fit on the cd
[00:10] <k1l> Thev: Lubuntu
[00:10] <k1l> !lubuntu | Thev
[00:10] <Seveas> ubuntu won't run on a computer so old it doesn't have a usb drive
[00:10] <Thev> well if this system runs windows xp fine
[00:10] <Seveas> s/drive/boot capability/
[00:10] <Flannel> Thev: Put it on a DVD?
[00:10] <k1l> yeah. thats what i thought too. i am not sure if Lubuntu needs PAE too.
[00:10] <godbod>  what's the last version of kde ?
[00:10] <Thev> im sure it cna run linux
[00:10] <Seveas> Thev: yes, and XP is now 13 years old.
[00:11] <k1l> Thev: then find a linux that supports that old hardware
[00:11] <Seveas> Ubunto from 10 years ago (13 years ago there was no Ubuntu) will work fine on it.
[00:11] <Seveas> and the cd's for Ubuntu 4.10 are smaller than 650MB :)
[00:11] <kostkon> Thev, linux is the kernel. You could try a super lightweight distro, like puppy, slitaz etc.
[00:12] <Thev> but i need to be able to start the install without booting from the live cd
[00:12] <Thev> the ram sucks so i wont be able to actually go into the live cd and install
[00:12] <paulzz> why not boot the cd?
[00:12] <Seveas> Thev: Ubuntu 4.10 had a separate text-based install cd
[00:13] <k1l> sadly 4.10 is out of support.
[00:13] <Seveas> as is the ancient hardware he's trying to shoehorn a modern Ubuntu on
[00:13] <k1l> Thev: see if the 12.04 lubuntu install got a alternate install cd
[00:13] <Seveas> the best thing to do with it is to set it on fire :)
[00:14] <Thev> lol
[00:14] <Thev> true
[00:14] <Thev> its my uncles computer lol
[00:14] <oniongirl>  CAn someone please help me? I've tried everything to fix this problem. I have an external HD that I used with an old Macbook. I sold the macbook but before I did I disabled Journalism so I could use it on Linux. I can read the drive now but I cannot write to it. I've tried just about everything... I've read about everything. My main HD dosen't have much space so I need to use it for backups and stuff. can someone please help make thi
[00:14] <oniongirl> s R/W?
[00:14] <Thev> he wnted to know if i culd make it faster
[00:14] <Thev> figured if i culd get linux running but o wells
[00:14] <Seveas> oniongirl: as explained before: HFS write support for linux is nonexistent.
[00:14] <tytan> oniongirl how is the drive formatted?
[00:15] <oniongirl> It HFS+
[00:15] <Seveas> Thev: you can make it faster by throwing it off a high building :)
[00:15] <godbod>  oniongirl did you try giver right to read to the HD?
[00:15] <oniongirl> yes i did
[00:15] <godbod>  chmod 755 <> to the HD for instance
[00:15] <Seveas> oniongirl: back up what's on there and reformat as something linux can write to.
[00:15] <Seveas> godbod: that won't help. linux can't write to HFS+
[00:15] <Thev> nvm got it to load
[00:16] <Thev> edited thecommands just now
[00:16] <Thev> remove something casper
[00:16] <Thev> rofl
[00:16] <estudiante> udiante
[00:16] <oniongirl> Seveas,  thats not true it can write to HFS+ If it is not Journalized
[00:16] <estudiante> hola
[00:16] <Thev> noooo a mexican
[00:16] <oniongirl> Only with Journallism on it cant be R or W
[00:16] <Thev> lol
[00:16] <Thev> jk
[00:16] <Seveas> !uy | estudiante
[00:16] <Seveas> hmm
[00:16] <estudiante> Cabron No Mamames
[00:16] <Seveas> !es | estudiante
[00:16] <godbod>  :-O
[00:17] <Thev> hable en ingles
[00:17] <godbod>  ubottu can you speak in english please?
[00:17] <Thev> puta
[00:17] <estudiante> Hellou¨*
[00:17] <godbod>  what's that?!
[00:17] <k1l> Thev: enough of that
[00:18] <Thev> porque?
[00:18] <Thev> sigh
[00:19] <k1l> Thev: enough of your non-ubuntu support and bad language in here. please keep this channel clear for users who want to solve ubuntu issues. thanks
[00:20] <Thev> so any distros built on top of ubuntu would be offtopic?
[00:20] <Flannel> Thev: yes.
[00:20] <mGuv> Is this a place I can get support or should that be taken elsewhere?
[00:20] <kostkon> Thev, official derivatives are supported though
[00:20] <Daekdroom> mGuv, this is - the - place for support
[00:20] <kostkon> mGuv, this is the place
[00:21] <Thev> okay so i have a question im running ubuntu 2
[00:21] <Thev> would that count as support
[00:21] <pilikeits> hi all. i have to watch one silverlight video with my ubuntu. how i can do it? i installed moonlight version, but i can't see it
[00:22] <mGuv> okay thanks, I'm using Ubuntu Server 14.04 and for the life of me can't get mysql-server to install correctly.
[00:22] <mGuv> It's locking up whilst installing after prompting me it can't set the root password
[00:22] <mGuv> can't find any info in logs either
[00:22] <xangua> pilikeits: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[00:23] <godbod>  I have heard that ubuntu uses information given in the Ubuntu One search bar. Is that true? Ca we still consider Ubuntu an free software?
[00:23] <Seveas> mGuv: have you installed mysql before on this server?
[00:23] <xangua> moonlight stopped being developed years ago and not even when it was supported all silverlight features
[00:23] <Seveas> godbod: you should /nick slowpoke and stop trolling
[00:23] <mGuv> Seveas, not that I'm aware but someone mentioned mysql may have been part of the ubuntu install, and I may have goofed it up
[00:24] <godbod>  that is not trolling Seveas
[00:24] <godbod>  I am asking the question to know.
[00:24] <Thev> is windows 8 better than ubuntu?
[00:25] <cynicallemon> is margerine better than butter?
[00:25] <nemith> I can't belive that
[00:25] <Seveas> mGuv: sudo find /var/lib/mysql/ -type d -- is there anything besides 'test', 'mysql' and 'performance_schema'?
[00:25] <godbod>  LOL
[00:25] <Seveas> k1l: looks like you're going to get busy... :/
[00:26] <mGuv> Seveas, there's no test, just the root mysql folder, mysql and perf_schema
[00:26] <peepsalot> anyone here running cinnamon desktop on ubuntu 14.10?
[00:26] <k1l> guys, keep it to ubuntu support please. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat. thanks
[00:26] <peepsalot> is there any stable-ish (not nightly) repo that has cinnamon 2.4
[00:27] <peepsalot> built for ubuntu
[00:27] <mGuv> it says the mysql service is installed but it doesn't ever return after doing sudo service mysql start, nor can I connect to it with mysqladmin (probably because i have no idea what the root password is)
[00:27] <gamzera_> guys, can you suggest me some general channel on irc freenode?
[00:27] <pilikeits> xangua, THANK you SIR!! :D very  very much :)
[00:27] <mGuv> tried to set the root password via dkpg-reconfigure but that also throws the failed to set password error
[00:27] <kostkon> !alis | gamzera_
[00:27] <godbod>  gamzera_ you have many channels
[00:27] <pilikeits> xangua, its working now :)
[00:27] <Seveas> mGuv: ok, it's a new install. remove mysql-server, rm -rf /var/lib/mysql and try again :)
[00:27] <godbod>  what do you want to know about ?
[00:27] <oniongirl> Is it possible to change the format of a disk from HFS+ To like FAT or whatever without losing the data?
[00:27] <gamzera_> godbod: I need some general one..
[00:28] <gamzera_> godbod: I want to hear feedback on one product that I am currently making
[00:28] <k1l> gamzera_: #freenode for freenode support please
[00:28] <Seveas> oniongirl: no.
[00:28] <Marasgeon> greetings, I have a specific SD card which I can't open and view it's files, Ubuntu recognize it but it says unknown format, any suggestions?
[00:28] <bubbasaures> peepsalot, You have the Ubuntu repos; supported and PPA's technically not here.
[00:29] <bubbasaures> Marasgeon, What is it's format?
[00:29] <Seveas> Marasgeon: can you open it on another computer/os? If so, find out how it's formatted (and maybe reformat to fat32 while you're at it)
[00:29] <peepsalot> bubbasaures, what?
[00:29] <Marasgeon> yes it is formatted in fat 32
[00:30] <Marasgeon> I can open it in Windows
[00:30] <Seveas> Marasgeon: it may have been removed without properly unmounting / "removing safely". Run a disk checker under windows.
[00:31] <Marasgeon> Yeah I try to reformat it but the proccess stopped
[00:31] <bubbasaures> peepsalot, This channel supports what is in it's repos. Any other are 3rd party and not supported here generally. Not to complicated now.
[00:31] <Marasgeon> I used gparted but it says error input output
[00:32] <Seveas> Marasgeon: that's starting to look more like physical damage.
[00:33] <Marasgeon> Seveas: So I guess I save my files from Windows, but why windows can open the card?
[00:33] <Seveas> Marasgeon: can it read all the files? Can it format the drive?
[00:34] <Marasgeon> yeah it has my pictures which I can view, I can format it but Ubuntu keep saying Unknown format
[00:34] <bubbasaures> peepsalot, Cinnamon has been reintroduced to the 14.10 release, appears to be 2.2.16-3,  2.4 is in a PPA as far as I can tell.
[00:34] <mGuv> Seveas, still getting the same issue, even after rm -rfing it
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <Seveas> mGuv: can you pastebin the full output of the install attempt?
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <yadnus> http://i.imgur.com/kSvCwfQ.png
[00:38] <Seveas> k1l: you have another customer
[00:39] <Marasgeon> Seveas: Is there a possibility that physical damage came from improper unmount?
[00:39] <Seveas> Marasgeon: I doubt it.
[00:39] <Marasgeon> Seveas: So if windows can open the card means there is no physical damage?
[00:40] <bubbasaures> Marasgeon, MS partitions can be messed up needing a chkdsk enough grub wont read them right, or linux will mount.
[00:41] <godbod>  www.google.com
[00:41] <Seveas> Marasgeon: I didn't say that. I asked whether it could open *all* files and reformat. If it also can't, there's physical damage and it's time to throw out the sd card.
[00:42] <mGuv> Seveas, what log would that be? the dpkg one?
[00:42] <Marasgeon> bubbasaures and Seveas thanks a lot for your help, have a good night!
[00:42] <Ranieri_> Hey ubuntu guru's.
[00:43] <Ranieri_> I'm looking to copy a file, but to a different directory.
[00:43] <Ranieri_> I know the basics of the cp utility, but not sure how to copy the file to my designated directory.
[00:43] <mGuv> Seveas, not sure if what you wanted but: http://pastebin.com/4sv4UZtF
[00:43] <usr13> Ranieri_: man cp
[00:44] <k1l> Ranieri_: cp file /path/to/new/folder/
[00:44] <Seveas> mGuv: not the log, the output of the apt-get command.
[00:44] <Ranieri_> k1l: And it will give it the same name, but in that designated folder?
[00:44] <Seveas> Ranieri_: cp my.file path/to/new/dir/
[00:44] <k1l> Ranieri_: yes
[00:44] <usr13> Ranieri_: It will give it a new name if you tell it to
[00:44] <Seveas> dammit k1l :P
[00:44] <k1l> Ranieri_: if you want to rename (too) use mv.
[00:45] <hipitihop> I'm trying to setup auto hide on my top panel. Looked about google but 14.04 does not seem covered, anyone know how
[00:45] <usr13> cp my.file /path/to/new/dir/  #To leave file name as is
[00:45] <k1l> hipitihop: i dont think that will work with unity
[00:45] <Ranieri_> ^ what if I want it changed?
[00:45] <Seveas> Ranieri_: cp my.file /some/other/dir/new.filename
[00:45] <usr13> cp my.file /path/to/new/dir/New-File-Name  #To use new file name
[00:46] <Ranieri_> jesus, that's pretty easy
[00:46] <Ranieri_> The man pages aren't as nice as you guys
[00:46] <mGuv> Seveas, oh right, my bad, http://pastebin.com/vvJf64cA   that last dialog I can't seem to actually hit that OK and/or it just gets stuck
[00:46] <usr13> Ranieri_: Sure they are, just more detial than you might want at times.
[00:46] <bubbasaures> hipitihop, The gnome shell does and other buntu's just not unity.
[00:47] <usr13> Ranieri_: The man files are your friends.
[00:47] <Ranieri_> usr13: more like, the man files is that friend that is extremely smart, so he explains everything like you have a masters degree in english
[00:48] <nopf> Ranieri_: if this is all new stuff to you, i definitely suggest you always use the 'cp -iv path1 path2' form. even i do it for years now. always -iv ... with cp and mv
[00:48] <Seveas> mGuv: hmm, bizarre. Try purging the packages instead of deleting (apt-get remove --purge). And rm -rf /etc/mysql as well as /var/lib/mysql
[00:48] <mGuv> Seveas, I purged everything before at one point but not in conjuction with removing the dirs, so will try
[00:49] <Ranieri_> nopf: I'll try it, thankz
[00:49] <zykotick9> Seveas: fyi, "apt-get purge foo" is shorter to type ;)
[00:49] <Seveas> mGuv: at this point I'm guessing there's a stale password in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf, and that's easier to fix than explaining how to recover myslq's root password :)
[00:49] <keiran230> Other than /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/network/interfaces.d, if I have a route which is appearing by default and needs to be manually route del'd every time I reboot, where should I be looking to remove the incorrect setting? In RHEL it would be /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth*. In ubuntu - I'm not sure.
[00:49] <mGuv> also, after it fails to install
[00:49] <mGuv> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:49] <mGuv> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:49] <mGuv> is there anyway around that, I just sudo reboot >_>
[00:49] <Seveas> zykotick9: 'apt-get purge' is too new for me :)
[00:50] <keiran230> lsof /var/lib/dpkg might tell you what's touching it?
[00:50] <k1l> mGuv: dont open several programs that use the package system
[00:50] <Seveas> mGuv: what terminal do you use?
[00:50] <usr13> mGuv: You more than likely have another app using it.
[00:50] <owen1> i am trying to figure out the keycode of the volume key. xev show me focusout and focusin event but i don't see keycodes - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9184384/
[00:50] <Seveas> or are you not installing with apt-get?
[00:50] <mGuv> I am using apt-get, sshing in from Windows using Putty
[00:50] <Seveas> keiran230: /etc/network/interfaces or in NetworkManager
[00:51] <keiran230> ubuntu server, btw
[00:51] <zykotick9> mGuv: if you _really_ don't have any other package-manager-type software open, or running, see "/msg ubottu aptlock" for info removing the lock.
[00:52] <keiran230> wait a sec I think I know what I effed up.
[00:52] <mGuv> zykotick9, okay thanks. If it helps, it because I had to bail out and force an apt-get install to quit, so chances are, it's probably created a new terminal instance
[00:52] <whodevil> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a qemu vm. For some reason the graphics are all screwy. I tried changing around the graphics type using the -vga option. Does anyone have any other suggestions I might try? Thanks!
[00:52] <usr13> mGuv: ps aux |grep apt
[00:52] <keiran230> found the typo ._.
[00:52] <keiran230> 'network' instead of 'netmask'
[00:53] <Seveas> keiran230: fail :)
[00:53] <keiran230> <3
[00:53] <keiran230> I have 10 subinterfaces and one had a typo effing up all of them
[00:54] <keiran230> thanks
[00:54] <usr13> What is a "subinterface"?
[00:55] <nopf> whodevil: mostly use '-vga vmware', yes?
[00:55] <paulzz> can I just upload a prebuilt DEB file to a PPA?
[00:56] <usr13> paulzz: If you have access to it, sure.
[00:56] <mGuv> now it just seems frozen on "Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.40-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[00:56] <mGuv> "
[00:56] <mGuv> hasn't even asked for a password this time...
[00:56] <usr13> paulzz: ... but not sure I understand your question.
[00:56] <Seveas> usr13: like eth0:1, one way of assigning multiple IP's to an interface
[00:56] <paulzz> usr13: I have a .deb file I've built and want to host it in my PPA
[00:56] <Seveas> paulzz: no. Only source packages.
[00:57] <usr13> Seveas: Oh, so another name for alias
[00:57] <Seveas> mGuv: for how long has it been hanging? It may simply take a while.
[00:57] <paulzz> Seveas: any other hosting or whatever where I can just put deb files?
[00:57] <Seveas> mGuv: open another ssh session and do ps auxf to see what's happening
[00:58] <Seveas> paulzz: you can host it yourself, use reprepro or dpkg-scanpackages to generate a repo
[00:58] <paulzz> Seveas: so then other machines and download and install the deb package?
[00:58] <usr13> Seveas: (never heard it called subinterface...)
[00:59] <mGuv> Seveas, it appears to be waiting on mysql start, the same command I can't get to work either after the botched install
[00:59] <usr13> mGuv: What command?
[00:59] <Seveas> mGuv: hmm, can you pastebin the mysql log?
[01:00] <mGuv> usr13, after the first install went wrong, even if it does 'install' sudo service mysql start never actually does anything and that terminal just waits forever
[01:00] <zyphoid> I'm having an issue with a new install, occasionally the top bar and side bar fail to load, desktop icons still present, alt+t fails to bring up terminal, ctrl+f1 works, reinstalled all unity,compiz,ubuntu-desktop components, restarting lightdm gets me back to login but after login top and side bar vanish again, tried swapping out graphic cards issue remains, changed between drivers, issue still present
[01:00] <Seveas> (/var/log/mysql/error.log)
[01:01] <Seveas> mGuv: and while you're at it, also the output of ps auxf | cat
[01:02] <trwsdfa> #c
[01:03] <mGuv> Seveas, hmm interesting, InnoDB: Error: io_setup() failed with EAGAIN after 5 attempts.
[01:03] <mGuv>  /var/log/mysql/error.log has that
[01:04] <oniongirl> Hello everyone. Just a quick question. Im using Xubuntu and I have been having some problems with my hard disk and im thinking of upgrading to an SSD. My questions is this: What is the best way to make a complete backup of my system? I've spent a lot of time and energy getting everything like I want it and if I get a new HD I dont want to start over from scratch. I'm looking for something that will back up everything and allow me to r
[01:04] <oniongirl> e-install it on the new HD.
[01:05] <k1l> oniongirl: i thought we had the specifics cleared
[01:05] <Seveas> mGuv: is maybe an old mysql instance still running (this is what I suspected when I asked for the ps output)
[01:05] <whodevil> nopf: yeah, that's what I used, for some reason the graphics look all garbled
[01:06] <oniongirl> k1l, i dont think I asked about backups before.
[01:06] <oniongirl> if so I;ve forgotten
[01:06] <mGuv> Seveas, the only other ps to do with mysql is /usr/sbin/mysqld
[01:06] <k1l> oniongirl: i am sorry. i thought that was about the hfs+ again
[01:07] <oniongirl> k1l,  no, I want to back up my entire system so that if/when I upgrade to an SSD I want my system back exactly how it is now down to the wallpapers.
[01:07] <k1l> oniongirl: you can do a full image and put that image back in place after the new hdd is build in. contra: you need 1:1 the space for backup
[01:08] <oniongirl> awesome, so the prog is called Contra?
[01:08] <paulzz> won't that make the sector size the same too, might be a bad idea if its not a good size for ssds
[01:08] <usr13> Seveas: Not sure mGuv understood you.  I think  you meant ps auxf |pastebinit  ?
[01:08] <usr13> Seveas: (You said ps auxf | cat)
[01:09] <k1l> oniongirl: or you "just" copy your /home and /etc to a external drive (which can use filepermissions) and copy them back after you installed the new system
[01:09] <k1l> oniongirl: no, "contra" = downside
[01:09] <k1l> !backup | oniongirl
[01:09] <oniongirl> oh ok. I got it
[01:09] <oniongirl> Thank you!
[01:10] <slowmc> oniongirl : have a look at clonezilla
[01:13] <Seveas> usr13: I meant | cat. It avoids line trimming :)
[01:13] <mGuv> Seveas, this? http://pastebin.com/UH7sGa6x I don't see anything that would cause issues
[01:14] <publishable> News flash:
[01:14] <Seveas> mGuv: how about the mysql log?
[01:14] <publishable> POOP IS FUCKING POOP!
[01:15] <Seveas> that's no news...
[01:15] <BGL> hi, i just finished installing 14.04.1 & would like to access the machine via vnc or rdp, when i run the listening client for remmina, and set it to listening vnc (it says vnci) & port 5900 w/pw i cannot connect to the machine
[01:15] <mGuv> Seveas, this one? http://pastebin.com/S6k41MBg
[01:15] <usr13> Seveas: ps auxf |cat|pastebinit
[01:16] <Seveas> mGuv: yeah that one
[01:16] <Seveas> it has a hint as to what could fix it: InnoDB: You can disable Linux Native AIO by setting innodb_use_native_aio = 0 in my.cnf
[01:18] <Seveas> mGuv: are you on a VPS?
[01:19] <mGuv> Seveas, aye
[01:19] <mGuv> and yeah, putting innodb_use_native_aio = 0 actually lets me start mysql...
[01:19] <usr13> details details ...
[01:19] <Seveas> looks like the VPS provider is stingy with your async I/O allowance. Haven't seen this error before. Thanks for showing me something new :)
[01:19] <mGuv> weirdly, I have another vps with the same people, same plan, that had no issues...
[01:20] <mGuv> sorry had*
[01:20] <mGuv> so I never thought to blame that
[01:20] <usr13> could be different server
[01:21] <mGuv> Seveas, yeah, that's sorted it, just used dpkg-reconfigure to reset the root password, then tested it with mysqladmin -u root -p status
[01:22] <mGuv> and actually got statistics now
[01:22] <mGuv> thanks guys for being paitent, I'm fairly new to running a linux server D:
[01:22] <usr13> BGL: Can you ping it?
[01:22] <BGL> yes
[01:23] <usr13> BGL: "listening client"?
[01:24] <BGL> in remmina i chose vnc listening or whatever it says in the drop down and hit connect and it says it's listening
[01:24] <BGL> i don't have the machine in the same room otherwise i'd say exactly what that drop down option is, but it's the only listening option
[01:24] <usr13> BGL: That's interesting. ("listening")
[01:25] <usr13> BGL: You might try x11vnc and tightvnc client
[01:25] <BGL> it says listening on port 5900 for incoming vnci connection
[01:26] <usr13> BGL: But remmina is a client
[01:26] <BGL> well in the drop down menu options
[01:26] <BGL> hold on
[01:27] <BGL> there is a drop down "vnc incoming connection"
[01:27] <BGL> i'm assuming this is how you would get a vnc client to connect to it..
[01:27] <BGL> it asks for a port username/password
[01:27] <BGL> i hit connect, and then it is "listening on port 5900 for incoming vnci connection"
[01:27] <usr13> BGL: So you have rdesktop on the server and remmina on client side?
[01:28] <BGL> i have ultra vnc on my windows box (& remote desktop if needed) i would like to be able to vnc or rdp into my ubuntu machine
[01:28] <BGL> what do i need to do to accomplish that
[01:28] <usr13> BGL: You might try x11vnc and tightvnc client
[01:29] <BGL> when i went to the software center i didn't even see x11vnc
[01:29] <usr13> BGL: Or just tightvcn both ends
[01:29] <BGL> i can look around though
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> goog morning to all
[01:29] <BGL> i didn't see that either actually heh
[01:29] <BGL> is the search results intentionally limited in the software center or what
[01:29] <usr13> BGL: Maybe it has been removed?
[01:30] <usr13> BGL: But don't think so...
[01:30] <usr13> !info x11vnc | BGL
[01:31] <BGL> ok i see that here i'll try that out thanks
[01:31] <usr13> BGL: There is also tightvncserver and tightvncviewer
[01:31] <usr13> BGL: Ok
[01:32] <lotuspsychje> just be carefull with vnc, as it is very vulnerable
[01:33] <usr13> BGL: There is also x2goclient &  x2goserver
[01:34] <usr13> BGL: Yea, I just use x11vnc and tightvncviewer becasue it is easy.  It is not secure, so don't leave it running while connected to an untrusted network.
[01:35] <zyphoid> sure hope he is connecting to the vps via vpn first and the vnc is for localhost only
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> and never run it while your away :p
[01:36] <usr13> zyphoid: I thought he was on an internal LAN.
[01:36] <usr13> lotuspsychje: You are assuming he is connected to an untrusted network.
[01:37] <BGL> it's just on an internal lan at my house, this x11vnc seems to be working
[01:37] <zyphoid> he said it was a remote vps
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> usr13: vnc can be exploited on many ways
[01:37] <usr13> zyphoid: Oh, I did not catch that.
[01:37] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: how?
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> internal/external
[01:38] <usr13> BGL: Disreguard what I said.  You ar connecting to a vps?
[01:38] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: vnc,ssh,ssl gets hammered every second of the day with bruteforce/scanners
[01:38] <usr13> zyphoid: If he is trying to connect to a VPS, what I suggested will not work anyway.
[01:38] <BGL> i'm simply connecting to a machine that in the back room
[01:39] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: assuming strong passwords that shouldnt be a problem though
[01:39] <BGL> shoudln't be rocket science, not even sure why ubuntu didn't come with the capability packaged with it
[01:39] <BGL> i had it working but just broke it somehow
[01:39] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: how sure are we linux rootkits can bypass stuff these days?
[01:40] <usr13> BGL: Ok, sorry for the confusion, zyphoid jumped to an erroneous conclusion.
[01:40] <usr13> BGL: Then see what is broke.
[01:40] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: if that can easily be bypassed then the same should apply to anything else
[01:41] <usr13> BGL: nmap is your friend
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: remember shellshock was just fixxed recently...
[01:41] <BGL> i've got it working but it says it won't save any settings/password cuz it's only for this session, and to run it manually for those options heh
[01:41] <usr13> lotuspsychje: Most of us do not have an outsid IP in the first place, so...
[01:41] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: by that logic you should never run anything externally facing, ever
[01:41] <D41LY5H4D0W> hello
[01:42] <usr13> lotuspsychje: (In reference to VNC being exploited
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> usr13: i know you want to help him, i agree vnc is easy to use, but also a danger
[01:42] <D41LY5H4D0W> how can i find information about my hardware?? i want to know wich is my motherboard
[01:42] <usr13> lotuspsychje: Not so much if you are behind several NAT routers.
[01:42] <BGL> i'll be honest i don't have my patience for linux unfortunately
[01:42] <SomeGuyhere> Wondering if someone can help me with deleting some old kernel files in the /boot folder
[01:42] <Ranieri_> Yo possibly my only friends
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: im just looking at facts mate..
[01:43] <Ranieri_> I want to create a tar file because all these files are getting annoying, how do I do that
[01:43] <isaaclw> where's the best place to ask questions about network-manager's openvpn in ubuntu?
[01:43] <usr13> BGL: Then my solutions should work for you.
[01:43] <paulzz> lotuspsychje: so then what would you suggest for this guy?
[01:43] <Ranieri_> isaaclw: #openvpn
[01:43] <D41LY5H4D0W> Hello?
[01:43] <BGL> i got it working until the ubuntu machine re-boots i guess heh, then i have to configure it again
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: vnc over ssh or just x11vnc as usr13 suggest is good, but i just warn about vnc dangers
[01:44] <usr13> BGL: script it
[01:45] <D41LY5H4D0W> how can i find information about my hardware?? i want to know wich is my motherboard
[01:45] <usr13> BGL: If you had it working once, just duplicate what you did before and save it in a script.
[01:46] <BGL> that makes no sense to me because i'm used to vnc server software that installs, you set a password, you're done, there's there's nothing more involved to keep it working or saving settings
[01:46] <usr13> BGL: As to your not having patience with Linux;  I should warn you;  If you use Linux long enough, you'll no longer have patience with the other OS.
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> !info dmidecode | D41LY5H4D0W
[01:47] <BGL> i wish lol
[01:47] <explodes> Hello! Why is telepathy-indicator automatically running? Do I need this "service"
[01:47] <isaaclw> Ranieri_: the issue is with the network-manager-openvpn package and the dns tools that involve the "new" way ubuntu 14.04 handles resolv.conf now, though. it seems #openvpn isn't familiar with that.
[01:47] <usr13> BGL: Your wish will soon come true.
[01:47] <BGL> i barely had the patience for getting this to work, ot understanding why it didn't just come with ubuntu, or why ubuntu didn't come with its own functional out of the box
[01:47] <usr13> BGL: For VNC?
[01:48] <paulzz> BGL: Prob because most people wont use it, its a security risk, and it would bloat the iso size
[01:48] <explodes> Also why the fudge is it connecting to the internet.
[01:48] <BGL> usr: really for any remote desktop server capability
[01:49] <paulzz> BGL: X supports remoting
[01:49] <usr13> BGL: I think Ubuntu has rdesktop by default
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> paulzz: checkout fail2ban on ssh, and you will see how much hammering youl get a day
[01:49] <usr13> !info rdesktop | BGL
[01:50] <Bashing-om> someone: Release 14.04, AND not at 100% capacity, -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- now removes the old kernels ( leaving current and one less ) .
[01:51] <BGL> you're right it does, however.. by sheer brilliance it doesn't show up when you search for remote desktop, vnc, or rdp
[01:51] <usr13> BGL: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/rdesktop.list
[01:51] <BGL> only by specific name is it showing up in the search
[01:51] <BGL> that is actually what i used to use
[01:51] <BGL> this is why i say i don't have the patience
[01:51] <usr13> BGL: Are you 14.04?
[01:51] <BGL> yes
[01:51] <BGL> why wouldn't rdesktop be returned under the search for remote desktop, vnc or rdp terms?
[01:52] <usr13> BGL: Well, I dono.  I'm still on 12.04
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> usr13: time to install trusty fresh, its amazing :p
[01:52] <Ranieri_> Can someone help me with the tar utility before I kill myself
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: make your life easy and install rar
[01:53] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: Rar is for grandmothers that can't use the tar utility
[01:53] <usr13> lotuspsychje: Oh I know.  I've installed it a number of times, (for others).  (Just 2 days ago on the last one...)
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: you just wanna tar an archive?
[01:53] <zyphoid> tar -zxvf works for most
[01:53] <Ranieri_> WHAT DO THOSE MEAN
[01:53] <Ranieri_> -zxvf
[01:53] <paulzz> Ranieri_: man tar
[01:53] <Ranieri_> If one more person leads me to the man pages I'm not only killing myself, I'm gonna kill myself, ressurect myself, and kill myself again
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> usr13: same here, many uefi boxes run so fantastic on it
[01:54]  * Ranieri_ goes to man pages
[01:54] <paulzz> Ranieri_: hmm ok, so I'll load the man pages, read what z c v and f mean, then copy paste it to you?
[01:54] <Ranieri_> paulzz: lol
[01:54] <Ranieri_> paulzz: I'm going
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: dont shoot yourself over a man page :p
[01:55] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: Don't worry, making a new "Information System" called Ranieri, that will link you to videos of me taking a shit on a man page while explaining the utility to you properly.
[01:55] <k1l> Ranieri_: any reason why we have to type all that is written in the manpages anyway? :)  if there is something you dont understand you can ask but it doesnt make sense if we just type the manpage again
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: try to keep language familly friendly
[01:56] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: sorry, excuse me
[01:56] <Ranieri_> k1l: Yea, I'll give the man's a try ;)
[01:57] <Ranieri_> k1l: Let me tackle my man page anxiety
[01:57] <Ranieri_> k1l: For example, a utility has commands such as -u, -x, etc right?
[01:58] <Ranieri_> k1l: What about double minus signs  --
[01:58] <Ranieri_> k1l: wtf are those
[01:58] <daftykins> Ranieri_: please clean up after yourself, after each suicide
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: i think you best focus on what your goal is..
[01:58] <zyphoid> -- are for words instead of the single letter version
[01:58] <cynicallemon> Ranieri_: do you have man anxiety?
[01:58] <Ranieri_> OMG zyphoid: THE FIRST PERSON TO HELP ME
[01:58] <linuxmint> Hello, could I get some help using GParted to format my USB. I formated to FAT32, the USB is recognised, but won't open for files to be added to?
[01:58] <Ranieri_> Give zyphoid a metal plz
[01:58] <Ranieri_> cynicallemon: Yes\
[01:59]  * lotuspsychje thought a terminal was inviting
[01:59] <k1l> Ranieri_: please stop that drama. you can ask specific questions and get specific answers. the whole drama only demotivates volunteers and spoils the room for other users who seek for help, thanks
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: what happens when you drag files to usb?
[01:59] <Ranieri_> k1l: Sorry, I'm just pissed
[02:00] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: the files go back to the original location.
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: no errors?
[02:01] <Ranieri_> What does verbosely mean?
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: doublecheck /var/log/syslog or dmesg
[02:01] <Ranieri_> I see it a lot in man pages/programming things/websites/things/things
[02:01] <usr13> Ranieri_: details
[02:01] <zyphoid> ;eve; of detail the program tells you during operation
[02:02] <paulzz> Verbosity is speech or writing which is deemed to use an excess of words. The opposite of verbosity is succinctness, which can be found in plain language (including Plain English), and laconism.
[02:02] <Ranieri_> so when using it in a command, it explains everything or gives you a lot of information?
[02:02] <k1l> more information
[02:03] <Ranieri_> k1l: oh sweet
[02:03] <paulzz> Ranieri_: instead of just saying "Creating archive" it might say "enumerating files" "found X files" "adding file B to archive"
[02:03] <Ranieri_> paulzz: ahhhh
[02:03] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/97TXDPXG
[02:03] <Ranieri_> Thanks k1l and paulzz , you guys are extremely helpful while I struggle through Ubuntu
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: on wich ubuntu are you exactly?
[02:04] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 12.04.
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: fat32 is the default layout on your usb stick?
[02:05] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: yes.
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: did you try ntfs if its possible?
[02:06] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: yes, just tried now using GParted.
[02:06] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: computer might need a reboot, as the USB selection is going funny.
[02:11] <linuxmint> reboot seemed to have fixed the USB issue.
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> !yay | linuxmint
[02:11] <linuxmint> that is, the 5th time a reboot happened.
[02:11] <linuxmint> lucky :-)
[02:12] <Ranieri_> k1l: I'm gonna stop being annoying if you link me to a website that gives me information on utilities, shell programming, and general questions regarding Ubuntu
[02:13] <zyphoid> http://www.google.com
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !manual | Ranieri_
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !bash | Ranieri_
[02:14] <Ranieri_> perfect, thanks lotuspsychje
[02:15] <Ranieri_> https://help.ubuntu.com is the official ubuntu webpage?
[02:15] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje, https://help.ubuntu.com is the official ubuntu webpage?
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: try www.ubuntu.com
[02:16] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: kk thx
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: try to investigate yourself a bit now
[02:16] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: I like being hand held into things...
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: well ubuntu is  world you have to experience yourself mate
[02:17] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: that was deep
[02:17]  * Ranieri_ looks outside the window at the stars
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: we showed you the toolz, now explore!
[02:17] <jost> Hi! Since the update to XUbuntu 14.10, Tooltips in firefox are messed up. They appear, but are just black boxes (maybe the font color was just set to black, the background is usually black). It works correctly after I uninstall a plugin and restart firefox with the restart-button that appears afterwards. But after the next reboot the problem reoccurs.
[02:17]  * Ranieri_ smiles, and wipes tear off left cheek
[02:18] <zyphoid> just dont lose that install disk
[02:18] <Ranieri_> lotuspsychje: I love you </3, but it's time we part ways, while I explore
[02:18]  * Ranieri_ hugs lotuspsychje
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> jost: did you try firefox on another user?
[02:19]  * Ranieri_ gets on sailboat, and drifts away, looking back at lotuspsychje as he waves and puts his arm around his son
[02:19] <jost> lotuspsychje: no
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> Ranieri_: plz stop it, keep the channel clean for support only
[02:19]  * Ranieri_ cries
[02:19] <Ranieri_> Ok fine
[02:19] <zyphoid> I'm having an issue with a new install, occasionally the top bar and side bar fail to load, desktop icons still present, alt+t fails to bring up terminal, ctrl+f1 works, reinstalled all unity,compiz,ubuntu-desktop components, restarting lightdm gets me back to login but after login top and side bar vanish again, tried swapping out graphic cards issue remains, changed between drivers, issue still present
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> jost: maybe try just for testing
[02:20] <mxgms> someone wants to test crypto email with me?
[02:20] <jost> lotuspsychje: I will, thanks for the tip
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: what ubuntu version?
[02:20] <zyphoid> 14.10
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: 14.10 has lot of users with screen issues
[02:21] <zyphoid> all nvidia users?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: all kinds of users, not sure whats happening exactly
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: black screens after login etc
[02:21] <zyphoid> should I go back to 12.04?
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: i suggest 14.04 all the way
[02:22] <paulzz> why not try 14.04
[02:22] <zyphoid> tried 14.04 same issues
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: any ubuntu version that worked well on your machine?
[02:22] <paulzz> hmm maybe a kernel issue then
[02:23] <zyphoid> all prior to the 14 series
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: yeah might be like paulzz suggests
[02:23] <gotcha> hey guys, quick question, if i installed ubuntu server, how can i make sure all default repositories are enabled? im trying to install irssi and it cant find it for some reason
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: what kind of grafix card you havin?
[02:23] <paulzz> gotcha: try apt-get update
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> !repo | gotcha
[02:24] <zyphoid> 550ti, 9800gt,7600
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: thats not an optimus card or something right?
[02:24] <zyphoid> no three modles of nvidia cards
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: you got 3 cards in your pc?
[02:25] <zyphoid> no tried them all, was thinking it was just the 550 then went back the the previous and reinstalled, same issue present on all cards
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: did you install ubuntu with cable and updates enabled during setup?
[02:26] <zyphoid> yes
[02:26] <gotcha> thanks guys
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: fresh or upgrade?
[02:26] <zyphoid> fresh
[02:26] <zyphoid> been working this issue for a week now
[02:27] <zyphoid> stumped so I came here
[02:27] <paulzz> I assume the live cd GUI works?
[02:27] <zyphoid> perfectly
[02:27] <jost> lotuspsychje: thanks for the hint, it works fine with other users
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: i had something similar on a X800 ati once, folowed me on serveral ubuntu versions
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> jost: might have been a profile issue then
[02:28] <paulzz> maybe check that kernel version and gfx driver the live cd is using, then try to grab those
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: maybe also test a xubuntu or something
[02:29] <huchangguo> hello
[02:29] <paulzz> huchangguo: yes indeed
[02:29] <zyphoid> last time I tried xubuntu the vpn functionality was totaly borked
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: no screen issues there?
[02:30] <zyphoid> program issues
[02:30] <zyphoid> like installed programs not mapped correctly
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: maybe 14.++ versions are getting too heavy for your cards?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: those are rather older cards?
[02:31] <zyphoid> doubt it, back on the 550 atm
[02:31] <zyphoid> and had the issue before I got on here
[02:31] <paulzz> cant be if the live cd works :)
[02:31] <zyphoid> suprised I have stayed here as long as I have actually
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: well thats weird indeed, as i never seen any machine go weird yet on 14.04
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: good idea from paulzz to check the driver loaded in livecd
[02:32] <zyphoid> meneither, tried loading lime but to my suprise I can not longer inject modules
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: i would try 14.04 fresh, and start from there see if you can fix issues
[02:33] <zyphoid> I'll try the livecd drivers in the morning
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: any errors in logs would be usefull also
[02:34] <Ranieri_> How do I finger people?
[02:34] <Ranieri_> finger user?
[02:34] <zyphoid> yeah well been doing full formats during the installs
[02:34] <zyphoid> logs are light
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: well anything related to lightdm or compiz issues might be usefull
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: or problems with card
[02:35] <Pinkamena_D> I use google chrome often, I hav not changed anything recently. Chrome will not launch from the launcher or terminal. Terminal gives no output at all, it just waits forever and never starts. Sudo has the same problem.
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> zyphoid: a nomodeset install could be usefull aswell
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: did you install web version?
[02:36] <Ranieri_> k1l: Run the who utility, and can you explain the 2nd column to me?
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | zyphoid
[02:36] <zyphoid> I'll try those
[02:36] <Pinkamena_D> 'web version'?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: how did you install chrome?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: and wich ubuntu version do you have?
[02:37] <Pinkamena_D> god it was a while ago, but I believe I just downloaded the .deb and user dpkg -i
[02:37] <Pinkamena_D> 14.04
[02:37] <linuxmint> thanks for helping with the USB. So, now I'm installed Ubuntu 14.04, but the monitor resolution isn't right after trying all resolution settings, no sound and Wi-Fi won't setup?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: maybe try a reinstall
[02:38] <Pinkamena_D> I suppose, sucks to lose everything I was working on
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: maybe chromium test
[02:38] <Pinkamena_D> chromium is fine
[02:39] <arun_> hi all
[02:39] <Pinkamena_D> it just heppened that I had everything open in regular chrome =P
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: try creating another user, and start chrome from there, see what happens
[02:39] <Ranieri_> What does :0 or pts/0 mean, and why am I logged in twice?
[02:45] <coax> oh
[02:47] <Psy_Ser> Could I get some help with Notepad++? It's not ubuntu, but I'd appreciate it.
[02:47] <Ranieri_> Psy_Ser: What's up?
[02:47] <Pinkamena_D> lotuspsychje, I had hit the return key on the purge command before I had time to try your suggestion, but I am happy to report that the reinstall worked without losing my data and work. Thanks for trying to help me!
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Pinkamena_D
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> Psy_Ser: ubuntu support only here mate
[02:47] <linuxmint> Can I get some support for an Ubuntu 14.04 related issue. Monitor reslution won't work after trying each one.
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: did you check your additional drivers section?
[02:48] <Psy_Ser> I'm trying to reconfigure key designations for a game. I just need to know how to write for the keys z and x.
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Psy_Ser: try ##windows for win software
[02:49] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: not sure, as I can't see my notes on how to configure monitors. Will try to access it.
[02:49] <Psy_Ser> XD That'll help, too.
[02:49] <Psy_Ser> Ty
[02:51] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: ok, Drivers seem to be installing.
[02:53] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: Driver Manager seemed to have a default: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau. I changed this to nvidia-331 (recommended).
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: maybe better luck with monitor after eboot on that driver
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> reboot
[02:54] <linuxmint> lotuspsychje: ok, waiting for Applying changes... to complete.
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> linuxmint: did you install ubuntu with ethernet cable/updates during install?
[02:55] <arun_> has anyone here used deepin desktop ?
[02:56] <squirtle_51> Hello, everybody.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> arun_: try #deepin, ive read something about it on OMGubuntu recently
[02:56] <ncarrillo> hi
[02:56] <jhelbling> hellooo
[02:57] <squirtle_51> Does anybody know rsync and cron well enough to tell me if a command will sync folders on two PCs on an hourly basis?
[02:57] <KeithIMyers> How are you planning to sync the files, scp?
[02:58] <squirtle_51> rsync and ssh
[02:58] <KeithIMyers> Or rsync
[02:58] <KeithIMyers> It should be easy, setup key based logins between the 2 boxes and add this cron
[02:59] <squirtle_51> I want to know if the rsync command will work before I add it to cron. And then run ssh-keygen?
[03:00] <KeithIMyers> rsync -avz /home/username/folder_to_sync root@999.999.999.999:/home/username/folder_to_sync
[03:00] <daftykins> squirtle_51: you test with practice, not asking someone to look at a command
[03:00] <Ben64> root? root is usually disabled and that won't work
[03:00] <squirtle_51> daftykins: Good point.
[03:00] <arun_> lotuspsychje: haven't u installed its de ?
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> arun_: no im on unity
[03:01] <KeithIMyers> It should as long as you setup the ssh keys under the user that you are running the crontab from. You also need to have write access to the destination folder or enable the root account
[03:01] <arun_> lotuspsychje: unity sucks for me :D
[03:02] <KeithIMyers> You can use ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id to easily setup key based authentication
[03:02] <KeithIMyers> Unity is not bad but I am a Gnome user
[03:03] <jhelbling> arun_, old laptop?
[03:03] <squirtle_51> Thanks. If I use the --relative command with rsync, I can sync ~/foo on source with ~/foo on the destination and ~/bar on source with ~/bar on the destination, correct?
[03:03] <squirtle_51> In the same command, I that is.
[03:05] <Ben64> squirtle_51: you should really be using full paths
[03:06] <KeithIMyers> To be honest, I have not played with --relative but full paths are generally considered to be best
[03:06] <KeithIMyers> What Ben64 said
[03:06] <arunpyasi> nope, I don't really like it UI
[03:06] <arunpyasi> jhelbling: ^^
[03:09] <Ranieri_> Where would I find the source code for the tar utility?
[03:09] <lunawalt> @search The Art of Asking
[03:09] <unopaste> lunawalt: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
[03:10] <linuxmint> Would I be able to get some help in making sound work on Ubuntu 14.04 with an HDMI cable please?
[03:10] <Ben64> linuxmint: looks like you
[03:10] <Ben64> 're on linux mint, not ubuntu
[03:11] <linuxmint> Ben64: good one. Mint uses Ubuntu.
[03:11] <jhelbling> Ranieri_, apt-get source tar
[03:11] <linuxmint> Anyways, I'll solve on my own. Thanks anyway.
[03:11] <Ranieri_> jhelbling: Thank you handsome
[03:11] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - Have you checked the sound settings to see if the HDMI audio shows up there
[03:11] <KeithIMyers> Arg, he left
[03:11] <Ben64> KeithIMyers: thats fine, mint isn't supported here anyway
[03:12] <Ranieri_> jhelbling: Doesn't work, says something about git and version control
[03:12] <jhelbling> ?
[03:13] <Ben64> Ranieri_: that command downloads the source and puts it in the current directory
[03:19] <Ranieri_> Ben64: No, it's an error message
[03:19] <Ben64> Ranieri_: pastebin it
[03:19] <Ranieri_> KK
[03:20] <Ranieri_> Ben64: How do you copy and paste txt from the shell?
[03:20] <Ben64> ctrl+shift+c
[03:20] <Ranieri_> Ahh kk
[03:21] <Ranieri_> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/tp5dVTFh
[03:21] <Ranieri_> Ben64: I even gave you the ls command to show it's not in wd
[03:22] <Ben64> Ranieri_: seems like you have some weird stuff going on with your repositories
[03:22] <Ranieri_> What are these "repositories" everyone talks about.
[03:22] <Ben64> !repository
[03:23] <Ranieri_> Thank you
[03:24] <jhelbling> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-latest.shar.gz
[03:24] <jhelbling> ups
[03:24] <KeithIMyers> You can just do a "git clone git://git.gag.com/debian/tar"
[03:25] <jhelbling> wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-latest.tar.gz
[03:25] <Ranieri_> Ben64: Reading the article, basically .rpm, etc is an archive for downloading a particular file(s).
[03:25] <Ben64> rpm is for redhat based distros
[03:26] <Ranieri_> Why do different distros need different "packaging schemes"
[03:26] <Ben64> different ways of doing stuff
[03:26] <Ranieri_> Ben64: -___-
[03:27] <KeithIMyers> Ranieri_ - There are benefits and shortfalls to each packaging scheme. Ubuntu uses debian packages which are simple and work well. RPM packages are also just as good but have some differences. Ubuntu is also moving towards "click packages" in the future as it has a few security benefits
[03:28] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: ahh cool, Thanks :D
[03:28] <KeithIMyers> Click Packages wont completely overtake deb packages on ubuntu but will be the perfered method
[03:28] <anta-pala> всем привет!
[03:28] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: What exactly is a deb package? A collection of files?
[03:29] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: or is it more similar to a .msi file?
[03:29] <Ranieri_> !Package | Ranieri_
[03:30] <KeithIMyers> @Ranieri_ basically similar to a msi in principle. A deb package is a archive of files and binaries along with a few post and pre-install scripts.
[03:30] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: ah I c
[03:34] <Ranieri_> KeithIMyers: can you answer an unrelated question?
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> !ask
[03:38] <nOTewARe2> I have a WD mybook live cloud drive and I was wondering if there is software for ubuntu? I see windows and mac.
[03:40] <KeithIMyers> nOTewARe2 - not that I know of. Does yours have the option to activate a FTP server? I have a WD Cloud Router with a 1TB drive on it and use FTP to access the content
[03:45] <nOTewARe2> KeithIMyers: yes it does have FTP.
[03:45] <SchrodingersScat> should be able to access that several different ways then, can probably add it through nautilus
[03:46] <KeithIMyers> @nOTewARe2 - Great, you can also use CIFS as well using "sudo mount.cifs //ip.address.of.mybook/public /mnt -o username=admin,password=admin_passwd_on_mybook "
[03:46] <KeithIMyers> But FTP is by far easier to setup
[03:47] <KeithIMyers> Use Nautilus to mount it and save it as a bookmark to easily re-connect to it between sessions
[03:48] <KeithIMyers> Although not wise, you can even setup something like port forwarding and accessing the MyBook FTP service remotely if you run a DynDNS service. It would be best to setup a VPN or SSH tunnel if you need remote access
[03:51] <Jarvix> how do you add a function/ command entry to the right-click context menu?
[03:52] <KeithIMyers> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[03:52] <k2gremlin> Anyone here familiar with Plex on Ubuntu Server?
[03:52] <Kotoro> odd, for some reason fetch in kdevelop on ubuntu is only showing CVS, no subversion, no github, no git...
[03:52] <Jarvix> ty KeithIMyers
[03:52] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin - I dabbled with Plex a bit in the past, cast say I am an expert
[03:53] <Kotoro> its v4.7 those options ought to be available...
[03:53] <k2gremlin> KeithIMyers, I have it installed and it says its running but I cant web to it from my PC :(
[03:53] <nOTewARe2> thanks guy for the answers. That will give me something to work on.
[03:53] <k2gremlin> Its running on a VM right now
[03:54] <KeithIMyers> @Kotoro - Do you have git installed - sudo apt-get install git git-core gitk git-el git-gui git-sh git-stuff gitg
[03:54] <k2gremlin> tried http://<ip>:32400/web but no go... <ip> is IP of the VM and is reachable
[03:54] <Prezident> How do i remove dead screens from screen -ls?
[03:55] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin is the VM local or hosted remotely (a VPS from a provider)?
[03:55] <DFeniks> maybe offtopic but is there any browser for old pc? something more advanced then lynx (or was it linx?) but not so heavy as firefox?
[03:56] <Prezident> try luakit DFeniks
[03:56] <KeithIMyers> @DFeniks how old?
[03:56] <KeithIMyers> Text based?
[03:56] <k2gremlin> local.... esx is .21 and VM is .22
[03:56] <Kotoro> there is no package git-stuff
[03:56] <k2gremlin> I plan on intergrating my cisco switches later with seperate vlans and such.  Just want to get the basic install in
[03:56] <DFeniks> 800mhz processor 512 ram
[03:57] <DFeniks> 512mb
[03:57] <Kotoro> installing the rest
[03:57] <KeithIMyers> k2gremlin - Have you made sure that the plex server is running
[03:57] <Kotoro> had just regular git package and its dependencies
[03:57] <KeithIMyers> @Kotoro - once done, re-install KDevelop
[03:58] <ubuntuaddicted> why is windows 7 so dumb? it won't mount an NFS share
[03:58] <k2gremlin> KeithIMyers, 1 moment, updating something :P CLI hogged up lol
[03:58] <Jarvix> any open source lynda.com how to equivalent? (new ubuntu user)
[03:59] <KeithIMyers> @DFenkis - You could try Midori, It is the browser of choice for the Raspberry Pi which has similar sppecs
[04:00] <Prezident> Aha, screen -wipe id worked fine :)
[04:00] <Kotoro> didn't do anything CVS is still the only option listed
[04:00] <k2gremlin> KeithIMyers, restarted the service... running now :) Able to web lol
[04:00] <Kotoro> other than "from file system"
[04:00] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - StackExchange / UbuntuAnswers are the first that come to bind. Not as good but it works
[04:00] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin - I love it when it is that easy :)
[04:00] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, what are you looking for?
[04:01] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, a tutorial for what exactly?
[04:01] <k2gremlin> Ok next question KeithIMyers, I have my external connected to my main PC for now.. going to dedicated a HDD to the server next weekend. Is there anyway to see that drive over the network to the Plex server?
[04:01] <Jarvix> i just want to get familiar with the OS and i want to know how i can mold the experience to fit me
[04:01] <Jarvix> and be stable at the same time
[04:01] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, ubuntuforums.org is a great resource, as well as #ubuntu on freenode
[04:02] <Kotoro> KeithIMyers its still only listing the CVS and filesystem options...
[04:02] <ubuntuaddicted> k2gremlin, you need to share it over SMB or NFS
[04:02] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin - Thats a fun one. It is possible but not the easiest thing to do in VMWare
[04:02] <k2gremlin> lmfao
[04:02] <Jarvix> other than forum/IRC, are there any informative sites that would essentially be ubuntu manuals, etcc
[04:02] <ubuntuaddicted> k2gremlin, unless i jumped in the conversation late. sorry
[04:03] <Kotoro> before i updated to unicorn from trusty it was at least showing github, i just wanted regular git
[04:03] <k2gremlin> I just tried adding the network path \\PCNAME\G\Movies didnt work haha
[04:03] <KeithIMyers> @k2gremlin you mount it on the host and setup a share. Use ssh-fs, SMB or NFS to moun
[04:03] <ubuntuaddicted> Jarvix, man foo
[04:03] <Kotoro> now neither are there
[04:03] <Kotoro> even though the version incremented to 4.7 from 4.6....
[04:03] <Jarvix> @ubuntu... man foo from cmd line?
[04:03] <k2gremlin> Ok ill look into that tomorrow. Thanks for the help
[04:03] <KeithIMyers> Kotoro - Let me see what I can find. I am not really a fan of KDevelop and have not used it
[04:04] <k2gremlin> goal tonight was to get the base plex installed :P
[04:04] <Kotoro> I primarily use fedora and i'm trying to help my friend set up the same environment for linux XD
[04:04] <KeithIMyers> I know git support was added to 4.1 but I have not used it
[04:04] <Jarvix> says no entry for man foo..so im guessing i dl it
[04:04] <Kotoro> and he uses ubuntu
[04:05] <Kotoro> mainly because its friendly to amd drivers
[04:05] <KeithIMyers> What version of KDevelop are you running again?
[04:05] <Kotoro> plugin was deactivated by default
[04:05] <Kotoro> that might fix it
[04:06] <Kotoro> it did
[04:06] <Kotoro> good
[04:06] <Jarvix> cant install it... what am i missing?
[04:06] <Kotoro> it was 4.7 Keith :P
[04:07] <KeithIMyers> Ahh, not sure why it was disabled but glad to hear you see it now
[04:09] <Jarvix> http://pastebin.com/3eFgMRYm
[04:10] <k0nichiwa> transmission daemon config file i suspect download speed set to 0 would be unlimited
[04:10] <k0nichiwa> but why dont they document that in the docs ?  for fcks sake
[04:11] <k0nichiwa> does anyone know if this is the case ?
[04:11] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - Try something like man ssh
[04:12] <KeithIMyers> k0nichiwa - 0 is unlimited
[04:12] <k0nichiwa> thanks
[04:12] <KeithIMyers> NP
[04:12] <k0nichiwa> why dont they say that in the docs for the params ?
[04:12] <Jarvix> no go
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> its crazy .. who in their right mind would doucment that param w/o saying 0 is unlimited
[04:13] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - I believe it was on the GUI
[04:13] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - I believe it was on the GUI
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> oh wait there is anothe param, enabled
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> so it doesnt even matter
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> hah
[04:13] <Jarvix> how do you pull up the man contents?
[04:13] <k0nichiwa> i should have read the next line
[04:14] <Blaster> What's the best FS type for a USB drive for sharing files with Windows?
[04:14] <Blaster> NTFS?
[04:15] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - The man contents are not the easiest thing to browse
[04:15] <Jarvix> im unable to pull up a single page. where can i find a list of man cmds
[04:15] <Blaster> Nevermind, rhetorical question.
[04:15] <KeithIMyers> @Blaster - Fat32 is still the best unless you need to share large files. NTFS sometimes likes to act funny
[04:16] <Blaster> 500mb archives.
[04:16] <Blaster> Does that indicate a large file to you?
[04:17] <KeithIMyers> @Blaster - No, Fat32 does not work well when files get around 3.4 GB
[04:17] <linuxmint> Any suggestions on Ubuntu 14.04 sound. I unplug the HDMI cable and plug the HDMI cable in and no sound?
[04:17] <Blaster> KeithIMyers: What about 6 archives totaling 3.4 GB?  And what's so special about that number?
[04:18] <Jarvix> anyone know of a free equivalent to this::  http://goo.gl/9o3JvV
[04:18] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - man is a bit strange when it comes to indexing. There is no "Table of Contents" - All man pages are stored at /usr/share/man
[04:18] <k0nichiwa> transmission config has pper port 51413
[04:18] <KeithIMyers> @Blaster - Fat32 has a limit of 3.8 GB
[04:18] <k0nichiwa> thats not a typical bittorrent port i dont think
[04:18] <Blaster> KeithIMyers, maybe the bugs you've experienced with NTFS have been when ms-dos wasn't the partition table format.
[04:19] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, did you catch the link i put up?
[04:19] <owen1> i can't shutdown my machine with 'sudo halt'. it never turned off so my only way is the power button. any idea where to start my investigation?
[04:19] <KeithIMyers> @ Blaster - I have tried with msdos. The problem comes in when the drive is not unmounted properly, you need to run a windows checkdisk on the drive before Linux will mount it
[04:19] <owen1> (ubuntu 14.10 on carbon x1 2nd gen)
[04:19] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - Yes. One moment
[04:20] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, ty, i dont mean to come off rude
[04:20] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - Check the sound menu in the control panel and see if you have the HDMI device listed there
[04:20] <Blaster> KeithIMyers, thanks.
[04:20] <k0nichiwa> bittorent uses 6881–6990 or something
[04:20] <owen1> also hibernation doesn't work. any tips would be appreciated.
[04:21] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: yes, Sound Preferences shows HDMI there.
[04:21] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: I disabled Sound on BIOS, to avoid any MOBO sound conflict.
[04:21] <KeithIMyers> Jarvix - It seems that you are looking for some getting started tutorials. Let me see what I can find
[04:21] <KeithIMyers> @Linuxmint - Do you have the HDMI device selected? If so, sound should work without issue
[04:23] <KeithIMyers> BRB, need to plug in my laptop
[04:23] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: the Analogue is highlighted. I highlight the HDMI and Close Sound Prferrences, but when I go back, the Analogue is highlighted? Not sure if that is a problem for the Hardware tab. The Output tab has the HDMI selected.
[04:24] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: When sound did work on the new install about 1 hour ago, I unplugged the HDMI cable and when I plugged the HDMI cable in again, I noticed the Sound Preferences Output tab selected Analogue. I changed to HDMI, but no sound.
[04:25] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, ty. i apologize that i didnt mention that at the first, lol.
[04:27] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - That is strange, you should be able to simply select it and have it work
[04:27] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - Still looking through YouTube to see if there are any good ones. Many of the ones I am seeing are ok but not complete
[04:27] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: yes, noone can fix it. It just works after a fresh install, but when unplugging and pluggin HDI cable in, sound stops?
[04:28] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: I need to unplug/plug in, as I need Ethernet connection to download initial install updates to make monitor, Wi-Fi work.
[04:29] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: then I can move computer to spot where Wi-Fi is, but sound breaks.
[04:29] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint, that is strange. I dont use HDMI for sound with the exception of putting an emulator on the TV to play a game a few months ago, I have not done it since
[04:29] <linuxmint> Thanks, have to go now. No sound, so will try again in a few weeks.
[04:30] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - I would put something in the forums if I were you. Maybe someone has come across this before
[04:30] <Jarvix> thank you, KeithIMyers ... do you know of any comprehensive written sources?
[04:30] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: thanks, yes, I have tried everything. Forums, chat, but noone can fixit.
[04:31] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=178564
[04:31] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - Have you tried to use the Ubuntu Forums?
[04:32] <linuxmint> KeithIMyers: no, I though the Ubuntu forums might be reticent.
[04:33] <KeithIMyers> @linuxmint - While "Mint" distros are not officially supported on the ubuntu forums, it never hurts to ask as Mint is built from the Ubuntu source tree
[04:34] <ChogyDan> Jarvix: there was an ubuntu manual
[04:34] <KeithIMyers> @Jarvix - https://ubuntu-manual.org/ this seems to be good
[04:41] <k0nichiwa> can ssh tunnelling work in such a way -- i direct brwoer to localhost:2222 and it tunnels to my rmobe server as localhost there ?
[04:41] <zgn> hey guys! my graphics card hdmi output is not fitting on my tv, the display is too big, what do i do?!?!
[04:41] <k0nichiwa> i dont have ssl set up for my server and i need to do some config by http , dont want it in the clear
[04:44] <zgn> hey guys! my graphics card hdmi output is not fitting on my tv, the display is too big, what do i do?!?!
[04:44] <metamp> what's the resolution of the tv ?
[04:44] <KeithIMyers> k0nichiwa - What service are you trying to tunnel?
[04:45] <KeithIMyers> @zgn - Search in the Dash for "Displays" and you can adjust the display settings there
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> that may be what i want .. looks like it
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> that should let me do http://localhost:2000 and have it go to port 80 on my server
[04:45] <k0nichiwa> so its encrypted
[04:46] <k0nichiwa> ha !! it worked !!!!!!
[04:46] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - That guide looks like it will accomplish exactly what you are wanting
[04:46] <k0nichiwa> wow that was eaier than i expected
[04:47] <k0nichiwa> great im going to use phpmyadmin to set up may database
[04:47] <k0nichiwa> and i realied i was about to use the root passwd w/o encryptin
[04:47] <KeithIMyers> @k0nichiwa - Pro Tip : Look at "autossh", it will do the same thing as "ssh" but rebuild the tunnel if it goes down for any reason
[04:48] <KeithIMyers> If you have that with ssh key auth, it is seamless to you
[04:49] <SchrodingersScat> !info mosh
[04:49] <k0nichiwa> what i fi want to use my server as a proxy
[04:49] <SchrodingersScat> man ssh
[04:49] <SchrodingersScat> look for tunnels
[04:49] <k0nichiwa> is there a way to direct to a port that then reflects back out as port 80 to the outside ?
[04:49] <cynixx3> look at tinyproxy
[04:49] <k0nichiwa> just using ssh i mean ?
[04:50] <k0nichiwa> i gues you need a proxy sevice running on the server
[04:50] <KeithIMyers> To tunnel everything through ssh? Look at sshuttke
[04:50] <KeithIMyers> sshuttle does not need a proxy on the remote server
[04:50] <KeithIMyers> I use it when I am on public WiFi to encrypt all traffic
[04:50] <SchrodingersScat> k0nichiwa: you can also have ssh link ports, there's many options
[04:51] <k0nichiwa> thanks i copied all this to notes to look at later
[04:56] <Jarvix> KeithIMyers, ChogyDan, thank you for the help. i appreciate it
[04:56] <KeithIMyers> NP Jarvix
[05:16] <Ranieri_> Okay, I have a friend that wants Ubuntu
[05:16] <Ranieri_> How do I put the "ubuntu image" onto a DVD
[05:17] <bynarie> what OS are you on now>?
[05:18] <Jarvix> where can i find GTK themes compatible with ubuntu 14.04?
[05:23] <xangua> gnome-look.org Jarvix
[05:24] <Jarvix> ty xangua , what version gtk ships with 14.04?
[05:25] <Ranieri_> What's an ISO image?
[05:27] <bynarie> Ranieri_, it is basically a zip file containing an operating system installation
[05:27] <bynarie> you usually burn isos to cds or to usb flash drive
[05:28] <bynarie> ok
[05:28] <Ranieri_> Yea, giving it the prefix "live"
[05:29] <Ranieri_> So /dev/sdc is a physical hard drive?
[05:31] <Ranieri_> How is a Windows partition different then a "Linux" or w/e partition
[05:31] <bynarie> /dev/sdc is a physical device yes, but i dont know for sure if its a HD or not.. depends on how many hds you have... you're first HD would be /dev/sda
[05:31] <__john_doe__> morning guys, can someone can someone tell me if there's a way to fix screen lock problem on ubuntu 14.04 gnome session flashback?
[05:31] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Isn't that paradoxical?
[05:31] <bynarie> no
[05:32] <Ranieri_> bynarie: How? The Whole filesystem itself is your hdd, then you have a directory for it?
[05:33] <bynarie> in unix, you have partitions(/dev/sda, /dev/sdb/ sdc/ sdd etc...) but its not a folder
[05:33] <DeaDSouL> hi
[05:33] <bynarie> for example.. i have 2 HD... the first is /dev/sda, second is /dev/sdb
[05:33] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Yes, it is
[05:33] <Ranieri_> ls /dev/sda
[05:33] <Ranieri_> It's a folder alright.
[05:33] <bynarie> when i plug a flash drive in, it is /dev/sdc
[05:34] <cynixx3> Less a folder than the root directory of your hard drive.
[05:34] <Ranieri_> Yes, that makes sense
[05:34] <Ranieri_> Plugging in a flash drive makes sense, because you can access it's contents at /dev/whatever
[05:34] <bynarie> it APPEARS to be a folder, but its really not
[05:34] <bluethundr> hey all.. what's the ubuntu package equivalent to RedHat / CentOS "devel packages" ?
[05:34] <Ranieri_> bynarie: I don't follow you.
[05:34] <bynarie> well you access the flash drive wherever the mount point is
[05:35] <bluethundr> for instance what would the apt-get equivalent be of yum install openssh-devel
[05:35] <bynarie> ok.... right now i have /dev/sdb mounted at "/"
[05:35] <cynixx3> bluethundr, have you looked at the extras repository?
[05:35] <Ranieri_> bynarie: OHHH
[05:35] <bluethundr> cynixx3: not yet
[05:36] <bynarie> you could mount a flash drive like so "sudo mount /dev/sdc /home/bynarie/flash"
[05:36] <DeaDSouL> the default behaviour in my ubuntu for dual monitors, is showing them next to each other... how can I change it to make it cloning (mirror) ?
[05:36] <Ranieri_> bynarie: You mount HDD's/Flash Drives/whatever at specific directories?
[05:36] <bynarie> yep
[05:36] <Ranieri_> ahhh
[05:36] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Cool xD
[05:36] <bynarie> most devices are auto mounted
[05:37] <bynarie> but if you manually mount somethin, you have to make a dir for it first... "mkdir /home/bynarie/flash"
[05:37] <bynarie> then mount it
[05:37] <Ranieri_> ^ :O
[05:37] <Ranieri_> That makes sense
[05:37] <bynarie> when i was first new to linux, it took me a while to understand the whole /dev/sda sdb thing
[05:37] <Ranieri_> But, when it comes to partitioning and filesystems (Fat, ext2, etc) it starts to stop making sense.
[05:38] <Ranieri_> bynarie: I'm in your shoes
[05:38] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Your past shoes.
[05:38] <bynarie> well, windows is usually ntfs or fat32
[05:38] <bynarie> linux = ext2/3/4
[05:38] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Okay, so it's a particular way the HDD saves data structures
[05:38] <Ranieri_> ?
[05:38] <bynarie> honestly, i dont know
[05:39] <Ranieri_> bynarie: lol
[05:39] <bynarie> haha
[05:39] <Ben64> Ranieri_: its an operating system thing
[05:39] <Ben64> hard drive doesn't know or care about filesystems, it just does 0's and 1's
[05:39] <bynarie> but i know that windows cant normally access ext4 filesystems without special software
[05:39] <bynarie> but linux CAN access ntfs and fat32
[05:40] <Ranieri_> bynarie: HAHAHAHAHAHA 1 - 0 for Linux
[05:40] <DeaDSouL> anyone please?
[05:40] <bynarie> exactly
[05:40] <bynarie> im sick of windows
[05:40] <bynarie> its slow
[05:40] <Ranieri_> DeaDSouL: Repeat question, we were talking about filesystems and what not
[05:40] <cynixx3> Sorry DeaDSouL I do not know much about multiple monitors.
[05:40] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Has it's merit... .NET framework is crazy
[05:41] <bynarie> yes unfortunately windows is much neccessary
[05:41] <Ranieri_> ^ yup
[05:42] <bynarie> actually, .NET is my programming strength.. c#
[05:42] <cynixx3> is windows really necessary or just a terrible roach that wont die?
[05:42] <Ranieri_> Nice, how does that work since your on ubuntu?
[05:42] <bynarie> dual boot
[05:42] <Ranieri_> bynarie: oh lmao
[05:42] <bynarie> well, more like quadruple boot
[05:43] <bynarie> ubuntu, linux mint, windows, freebsd
[05:43] <bynarie> hah
[05:43] <Ranieri_> LOLOL
[05:44] <Ranieri_> Windows 7?
[05:44] <bynarie> 8.1
[05:44] <Ranieri_> ew
[05:44] <bynarie> i tried the new windows 10 dev preview
[05:44] <bynarie> its junk
[05:44] <DeaDSouL> I'm pluging hdmi from my tv to my laptop.. and create a new user account using xbmc-session... what I want is, once I boot the system, it should mirror the laptop-display, even when I logged-in
[05:45] <Ranieri_> bynarie: Windows is cursed... every other OS is good
[05:45] <bynarie> i agree
[05:45] <Ranieri_> bynarie: lol
[05:45] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, are you using gnome or kde?
[05:46] <DeaDSouL> sorry... let me say it again... I'm connecting my laptop to my tv via hdmi, the system has a dedicated user for the xbmc app and session... how can I make the tv mirrors what the laptop shows, and turning off the laptop display ?
[05:46] <vicente> hello
[05:47] <DeaDSouL> ubuntu unity
[05:48] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, what brand graphics card do you have?
[05:48] <bynarie> omg unity
[05:48] <bynarie> i hate unity
[05:48] <cynixx3> aka gnome
[05:49] <bynarie> gnome3
[05:49] <bynarie> yea
[05:49] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, do you know what kind of graphics card your running?
[05:49] <DeaDSouL> ati
[05:49] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: ati
[05:50] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, have you installed the radeon graphics card driver?
[05:52] <Ranieri_> cynixx3: Closed-source drivers?
[05:53] <Ranieri_> cynixx3: I thought you had to program them in C yourself
[05:55] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: yes I did... well, I have 2 account on that system, first one uses unity, and I can set it up from the gnome-control-center... but the second account uses the xbmc-standalone session.. so,,, I copied the ~/.config/monitors.xml from the first account to the second and changed the permissions... but still didn't work... so, I was wondering which file in /etc/ I should
[05:55] <DeaDSouL> modify to make it mirrors the display as default behaviour ?
[05:56] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, one moment let me do a little research.
[05:58] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: sure
[06:03] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, I remember editing my monitor settings but I am unable to find the file I used when I did so. I am still looking but its not looking good.
[06:04] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: thanks man i really appreciate your help :)
[06:07] <Bashing-om> cynixx3: DeaDSouL :: Maybe /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the file you have in mind ? - If it exists .
[06:07] <bynarie> i thought they(who?) got rid of the xorg.conf file
[06:08] <bynarie> anyone in here successfully installed plasma5 on xubuntu ?
[06:09] <Bashing-om> bynarie: No, just if DKMS is in effect the file is not required, But if it exists it will be honored .
[06:09] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: no it doesn't
[06:09] <OerHeks> lol bynarie, plasma5 is for KDE
[06:09] <bynarie> yea i know
[06:09] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: there is file called xorg.conf.original-0, has "# NOXORGCONFEXISTED: No X.org configuration file existed when this backup was created."
[06:09] <bynarie> i wanted to test out plasma5 tho
[06:10] <cynixx3> So the xorg.conf has been replaced by another conf file.
[06:11] <cynixx3> or was it just removed bynarie?
[06:11] <bynarie> what? the xorg.conf file? mine has never existed
[06:12] <OerHeks> xorg.conf is not there by default
[06:13] <cynixx3> DeaDSouL, check out this page: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=174854
[06:15] <DeaDSouL> cynixx3: sure, I will... thanks
[06:30] <WyZeGuY> hi i'm here asking a stupid basic question that i'm sure everyone else in here besides myself knows. i have an asus q502la, which from what i've been able to gather after crap tons of research and constantly losing focus, has an intel 7260 series wifi card that isn't preloaded with the ubuntu installation. how to i install the driver, or patch it if need be?
[06:32] <cynixx3> its unusual that the generic driver is not working for your wifi card.
[06:33] <WyZeGuY> that's what i thought too. it was the featured laptop at best buy, which i figured meant it was popular, which i in turn figured someone would have made a driver for it, but maybe i'm a horrible googler
[06:33] <cynixx3> Are you sure the wifi card is on?
[06:33] <WyZeGuY> spent about 4 hours last night, and several hours tonight looking up how to do this. i'm empty-handed, and only just now thought, well why don't i ask irc
[06:34] <cynixx3> There may be a Fn + F3 key combo that would cycle the power of your card.
[06:34] <WyZeGuY> i didn't specifically turn it off. it had windows on it prior, and wifi was working. do i have to manually turn it on to use it?
[06:34] <WyZeGuY> ok i'll check
[06:36] <WyZeGuY> i'm trying all the Fn combinations, and it's not doing anything. the icon at the top right says "Enable Networking" and it's checked
[06:37] <cynixx3> Is there an Enable WiFi option?
[06:37] <WyZeGuY> no
[06:37] <cynixx3> :(
[06:37] <WyZeGuY> i just went to edit connections, and eternet shows up, but not wifi
[06:40] <cynixx3> open a terminal and try iwconfig
[06:40] <cynixx3> bltldhvkjlgubkkfjnjcuncrlriic
[06:41] <WyZeGuY> it says, "eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions."
[06:42] <cynixx3> okay, I am not sure what you have run across in your research but you may want to give this page a try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers
[06:42] <cynixx3> It sounds like you may be missing your generic driver.
[06:43] <bubbasaures> page after page on that wifi at askubuntu
[06:47] <_unreal_> WyZeGuY, lspci |grep wireless
[06:48] <WyZeGuY> Intel wireless 7260 [8086:08b1] .. i'm looking through that guide now
[06:48] <_unreal_> err just lspci
[06:56] <maciwl> hi
[06:56] <WyZeGuY> hi
[06:56] <maciwl> does anyone know whats up if ifconfig wlan0 still shows a connected interface but iwconfig wlan0 shows that it's not associated
[06:57] <WyZeGuY> for wifi? that's what i'm trying to figure out too
[06:58] <maciwl> yeah for wifi
[06:58] <maciwl> mine connects for a bit then just stops working all together
[06:58] <WyZeGuY> oh shit i can't even get the right driver. you're further along than me
[06:58] <maciwl> i'm using the intel iwlwifi driver
[06:59] <WyZeGuY> i'm supposed to be using that. 7260 series. but i don't know what to do
[07:01] <cynixx3> maciwl, not associated should mean that its just not connecting to a wifi network. Try removing the security and then connecting.
[07:01] <maciwl> right now it's open
[07:01] <maciwl> no security
[07:01] <maciwl> how do i re-connect?
[07:02] <maciwl> sudo ifconfig wlan0 down; sudo ifconfig wlan0 up does nothign
[07:02] <cynixx3> click the wifi symbol in the top right and select the network you want to join.
[07:02] <maciwl> i'm running headless
[07:02] <maciwl> just commandline
[07:02] <cynixx3> hum good question then.
[07:02] <maciwl> if i reboot the wireless connects and works for a few minutes
[07:03] <cynixx3> even if the network is open?
[07:03] <maciwl> then it just drops association
[07:03] <maciwl> i'm using my mac laptop internet connection sharing as the AP though
[07:03] <maciwl> yeah no encryption here, it's open
[07:04] <cynixx3> Are you positive the problem is with ubuntu and not the imac?
[07:04] <maciwl> how can i be sure
[07:04] <maciwl> the mac has essentially no configuration options
[07:04] <cynixx3> do you have another device that would stay connected longer. Like your phone?
[07:04] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3 if i chose lvm and encryption, and encrypt my home folder, during install, would that prevent my wifi driver from being recognized?
[07:05] <cynixx3> No, drivers are not in your home directory.
[07:06] <maciwl> in ubuntu what's a way to get iwconfig to re-associate with an AP
[07:06] <maciwl> from the command line
[07:06] <maciwl> right now wlan0 is configured in /etc/network/interface
[07:07] <cynixx3> iwconfig wlan0 ap off
[07:07] <cynixx3> then run your command to associate again.
[07:08] <maciwl> what is the command to associate?
[07:08] <cynixx3> iwconfig wlan0 ap auto
[07:08] <maciwl> hmm
[07:09] <maciwl> tried those it still says ESSID: Off/any Access POint: Not-Associated
[07:09] <maciwl> maybe it's the intel wifi driver
[07:09] <cynixx3> have you tried ifconfig ?
[07:10] <cynixx3> so like ifconfig wlan0 down
[07:11] <maciwl> yeah tried that
[07:11] <maciwl> nothing
[07:12] <cynixx3> Explain nothing. Error message? Successful?
[07:12] <maciwl> no error message
[07:12] <maciwl> and no state change
[07:12] <maciwl> after ifconfig wlan0 down and up, it comes up with the same ip address
[07:12] <cynixx3> could you pastebin a ifconfig result here?
[07:12] <maciwl> but iwconfig still shows that it's not authenticated
[07:12] <maciwl> cant copy and past as i'm running the commands on another machine
[07:13] <cynixx3> if you used ifconfig to bring down the interface then you should not be able to authenticate.
[07:13] <maciwl> wlan0 was confiured with dhclient
[07:13] <maciwl> sorry i mean associate
[07:13] <maciwl> i do ifconfig wlan0 down; ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:14] <maciwl> and then iwconfig still shows that it's not associated with an AP
[07:15] <cynixx3> I had to look up dhclient. Lets not worry about that for now
[07:15] <cynixx3> if you run ifconfig what does the wlan0 line say?
[07:16] <maciwl> Link encap: Ethernet HWaddr:a0:a8:cd:62:c6:2c
[07:17] <cynixx3> Does the forth line say UP?
[07:19] <maciwl> yeah: UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[07:19] <cynixx3> So I am trying to think of the most common things that would make a wifi connection just drop after a successful connection.
[07:20] <cynixx3> The only things I am really coming up with are interference, not really connecting in the first place, Wrong channel/ security, or someone hijacking your connection.
[07:20] <maciwl> my phone is on the AP now let's see if it has any problems
[07:20] <maciwl> could be the intel firmware
[07:21] <cynixx3> Why would you think that?
[07:21] <maciwl> ok so i rebooted the device
[07:21] <maciwl> and it is now associated
[07:21] <cynixx3> the ubuntu device?
[07:21] <cynixx3> or the imac?
[07:21] <maciwl> the ubuntu device
[07:23] <maciwl> i guess my question is
[07:24] <maciwl> does doing: `sudo ifconfig wlan0 down; sudo ifconfig wlan0 up` force the wireless interface to try to re-associate with my AP?
[07:24] <maciwl> i tried looking in the logs for reasons why it might un-associate but found nothing
[07:30] <arun_>  I needed one who  can install deepin de in his ubuntu right now
[07:31] <Ben64> arun_: deepin is not supported here
[07:31] <cynixx3> maciwl, ifconfig down will disable the interface. its like unplugging the ethernet cord.
[07:32] <maciwl> yeah well it's strange that when i type ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:32] <maciwl> it says the interface is UP but iwconfig says it's not associated with the AP
[07:32] <WyZeGuY> i don't even have the driver at all. how do i get the wifi driver installed? it needs intel 7260 series, and it's not loaded
[07:33] <maciwl> i just updated the intel firmware for iwlwifi
[07:33] <maciwl> so let's see if that does anything
[07:34] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: what kernel version are you using
[07:34] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: run: uname -a
[07:34] <WyZeGuY> 3.13.0-32-generic
[07:35] <WyZeGuY> x86-64 bit
[07:35] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=iwlwifi-7260-ucode-<IP_ADDRESS>.tgz
[07:35] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, copied from intel: The Linux drivers are part of the upstream Linux kernel, and are available through the regular channels, distributions or The Linux Kernel Archives. Intel supports use of the drivers only in the kernel version the driver was a part of.
[07:36] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: extract that archive and then do: sudo cp iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode /lib/firmware
[07:38] <WyZeGuY> "no such file or directory"
[07:41] <cynixx3> you dont have a /lib/firmware?
[07:41] <WyZeGuY> yes i do, i just opened it up
[07:41] <cynixx3> did you extract the file you downloaded?
[07:42] <WyZeGuY> it says the iwlwifi... folder "no such file or directory" but i just extracted it to my desktop
[07:42] <cynixx3> in console give us the return from the pwd command.
[07:43] <cynixx3> and locate iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode
[07:43] <WyZeGuY> "cp: cannot stat 'iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode-<IP_ADDRESS>': No such file or directory
[07:44] <cynixx3> I hear you.  It states that printf '%s' 'passphrase' | ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ./wrapped-passphrase can be used to try a unwrap the file, which works, but I would like to replace 'passphrase' with a variable. Ideas anyone? I had $word as the variable but misteriously, it doesn't work. doing echo $word returns the expected value for $word..
[07:52] <cynixx3> Sorry you didnt make any progress WyZeGuY
[07:53] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3 thanks for assisting. i know you didn't have to try to help, but i appreciate it
[07:53] <cynixx3> Your welcome.
[07:53] <maciwl> ${word} maybe?
[07:54] <WyZeGuY> what do you think i should do when i try again? the ucode file already exists in the /lib/firmware folder, but clearly ubuntu isn't recognizing it as the driver.
[07:55] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: try `sudo lsmod | grep iwlwifi`
[07:55] <maciwl> and `dmesg | grep iwlwifi`
[07:56] <WyZeGuY> to get the wifi model?
[07:56] <cynixx3> Check the driver. md5sum both files, check permissions of the file in /lib/firmware.
[07:56] <cynixx3> if that returns a version or model then the driver should be working.
[07:56] <TTN> maciwi, thanks I tried that , nogo. the funny thing is I had it working before.
[07:56] <cynixx3> at that point it would be another problem down the line.
[07:56] <WyZeGuY> maciwl, when i looked earlier, it said something like 8086:somenumber.
[07:57] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, so since it returned a version number, then the computer IS recognizing the driver?
[07:57] <auscompgeek> WyZeGuY: but are there any errors?
[07:58] <cynixx3> TTN, I would recommend checking your quotes. `is for console ' are for variables and " for content. I think, I do get ' and " a little confused.
[07:58] <WyZeGuY> auscompgeek, when i've tried other commands people have told me, terminal told me "eth0 not connected" and "lo not connected" or something like that
[07:58] <maciwl> TTN: try: printf %s $word | ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ./wrapped-passphrase
[07:59] <auscompgeek> WyZeGuY: no, I mean is the kernel showing any errors in dmesg?
[07:59] <cynixx3> eth0 is your wired connection and l0 is a loopback port.
[07:59] <maciwl> you don't need the single quotes
[07:59] <maciwl> or look up shell escaping stuff
[08:00] <WyZeGuY> network manager doesn't show the wifi connection at all
[08:01] <maciwl> WyZeGuY: dmesg | grep iwlwifi will show you snags
[08:02] <cynixx3> maciwl, and your dmesg shows no reason for the network disassociation?
[08:02] <maciwl> nope
[08:02] <maciwl> how can i get better networking logs?
[08:03] <maciwl> i would think a 'disassociation' event would be logged somewhere
[08:03] <william_doe> +32................63528983+
[08:03] <cynixx3> sudo lshw -C wlan0
[08:03] <cynixx3> lshw takes a while to run.
[08:03] <maciwl> that command doesnt output anything
[08:04] <maciwl> it briefly shows: PCI (sysfs)
[08:05] <cynixx3> and then for me in about 2 minutes you will see a larger block of output.
[08:05] <cynixx3> maybe run sudo lshw -C wlan0 > lshw.log
[08:05] <maciwl> nah it just returns a shell prompt after 2 seconds
[08:06] <TTN> thanks maciwl, didn't work..
[08:06] <TTN> I'll do some reading then
[08:06] <cynixx3> then skip the -C
[08:06] <maciwl> TTN it's a shell escape problem
[08:07] <Novice201y> Hello. Do Fedora and Ubuntu use different versions of Kernel? On Ubuntu Fn Keys for brightness work, on Fedora - don't.
[08:07] <TTN> maciwl, sweet. now I know where to look :)
[08:09] <cynixx3> Fedora is a red hat version and ubuntu is a different branch. They will most likely use different versions.
[08:10] <cynixx3> But the brightness issue is probably related to  another part of the fedora system.
[08:11] <cynixx3> maciwl, I dont know of a better wireless log than dmesg, lshw gives good hardware information and settings but not a association log.
[08:25] <arun_> anyone here familiar with Anope ?
[08:27] <_thewarlock_> Hello People ! I am New here !!!
[08:27] <cynixx3> hello
[08:28] <cynixx3> its kind of slow at this time of night.
[08:32] <_thewarlock_> I am From India, its luckily noon ! :P
[08:32] <cynixx3> Cool. Hows the weather there?
[08:35] <arun_> hi guys
[08:45] <avocado1> Where does pidgin save chat logs?
[08:47] <enchilado> avocado1: on http://www.irssi.org/
[08:47] <_Druid_> mby on ~/.purple
[08:48] <avocado1> _Druid_: Thanks
[08:51] <wgetME> anyone using Ubuntu on MBP ?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> wgetME, skip the survey, state your problem.
[08:52] <wgetME> cfhowlett: does it work fully including the battery ?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !mac | wgetME,
[08:53] <AbstractD> Has anyone experienced a problem when trying to install EMACS24 from Synaptic pkg mgr? choosing extra packages always causes Synaptic to complain about dependencies when trying to install newer, other software.
[08:53] <cfhowlett> wgetME, dozens of configurations and hundreds/thousands of different use profiles.  the literal answer to your question is "yes".  So?   Windows keeps asking a user/password for my share on restart. I have followed several suggestions via ubuntu forums and stack overflow. no dice.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> AbstractD, sorry, no knowledge or idea about emacs
[09:04] <AbstractD> The issue is not so much with emacs, it's with dependency hell
[09:04] <AbstractD> in general.
[09:06] <AbstractD> Say I mark 150 packages to install--Synaptic does not denote any broken packages, yet some library ends up breaking.  The whole of saying this is, we moved away from Windows due to .DLL hell, now we have a more secure OS with lib dependecy hell.  There is only only flavor of *nix that I know of that isolates every app and its lib dependcies into their own separate directory, and that's PC-BSD.
[09:07] <cfhowlett> AbstractD, this is what the CLI would install for emacs24  http://ur1.ca/iv3ud
[09:11] <AbstractD> Anyone else?
[09:24] <nebuchs> I've added bad ppa to my system and now "gstreamer1.0-plugins-good : Depends: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 (>= <IP_ADDRESS>+git20140905.a2122f04-0ubuntu1~14.04~ricotz0) but 1.2.4-1~ubuntu1 is to be installed", i did ppa-purge, autoclean, autoremove, everything but this package still keeps giving error, why this package still depends on that package?
[09:25] <fahad_IT> hello
[09:29] <Artemis3> nebuchs, uninstall the package it then install again?
[09:31] <nebuchs> Artemis3, i uninstalled almost everything related, but somehow this package depends that package, there must be hidden cache
[09:33] <DJJeff> after I purge network-manager-(gnome) how do I get back my eth0:1 and eth0:2 that I have in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:33] <DJJeff> I have ifupdown installed
[09:35] <AbstractD> hang on NEBUCHS.. seeing about getting an answer for you
[09:35] <DJJeff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9192568/
[09:36] <DJJeff> with this I only got eth0 back not eth0:1 or eth0:2
[09:36] <DJJeff> I was also told to leave out the gateway on the virtual interfaces
[09:37] <DJJeff> or ubuntu would hang on startup for 60 seconds
[09:39] <nebuchs> AbstractD, now i am trying to do force version with synaptic
[09:43] <WyZeGuY> anyone here?
[09:43] <DJJeff> nope sorry
[09:43] <DJJeff> only robots at this hour
[09:43] <WyZeGuY> are you looking for help too, or just hanging out here?
[09:44] <DJJeff> even the robots here are trying to get some sleep
[09:44] <AbstractD> I'm thinking that you have mismatched versions of shared libraries, however the bungholes over at Debian are not of much use.
[09:44] <WyZeGuY> jeff do you know how to set up wifi in ubuntu?
[09:44] <AbstractD> Cute, DJ
[09:45] <DJJeff> tried WICD?
[09:45] <AbstractD> Cute.
[09:45] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: have you tried WICD for wifi
[09:45] <WyZeGuY> E: Unable to locate package wicd-daemon
[09:45] <WyZeGuY> it's not hooked up to the internet
[09:46] <DJJeff> odd I got
[09:46] <DJJeff> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[09:46] <DJJeff>   python-wicd wicd wicd-daemon wicd-gtk
[09:46] <DJJeff> your sources list is broken? try (sudo) apt-get update first
[09:46] <nebuchs> AbstractD, thanks, now i am trying to fix it with synaptic manually :/
[09:47] <AbstractD> DJ: You didn't get his ver. of Ubuntu
[09:47] <WyZeGuY> updating, everything failed to download or fetch, because it's not hooked up to the internet
[09:47] <DJJeff> oh
[09:47] <DJJeff> you will need to be online to get the packages
[09:47] <WyZeGuY> i know, which is why i'm trying to get the internet on it
[09:47] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: you don't need wicd, networkmanager (comes installed by default) works just fine.  Authenticating to the wifi, dhcp, routing, dns?
[09:48] <Seveas> DJJeff: watch your languae please.
[09:48] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: what have you tried so far
[09:48] <WyZeGuY> i click on the network manager icon, and no connections are available
[09:49] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: what kind of wifi card/chip do you have?
[09:49] <WyZeGuY> jeff, i've been searching for the last 3 nights, spending about 4 hours a night on average, following all sorts of guides, how tos and faqs. i've tried lots of stuff
[09:49] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: try lspci in terminal and check if you card is listed
[09:49] <WyZeGuY> seveas, i'm not sure. i think it's intel 7620
[09:49] <WyZeGuY> hold on, i'll do lspci again
[09:50] <Seveas> that should work fine. Is the wifi maybe disabled with a hardware switch?
[09:50] <DJJeff> WyZeGuY: also check iwconfig for something like (wlan0, wlan1...)
[09:50] <WyZeGuY> hold on, i'm going to try just one step at a time and report to you guys what i see
[09:51] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: but we have so many iodeas and suggestions, hurry up :P
[09:51] <WyZeGuY> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7620 (rev cb) ..... so it sees my wireless card, right?
[09:51] <WyZeGuY> under lspci command, whatever that means
[09:51] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: yup
[09:51] <DJJeff> sudo rfkill unblock wifi
[09:51] <DJJeff> sudo rfkill list all
[09:51] <DJJeff> check for hardware or software lock on it
[09:52] <AbstractD> NEBUCHS: I think you'll have to fix thru through synaptic.  Do a search for Gstreamer and possbily FORCE uninstall everything - g-bad, g-good, b-whatever the heck else.. remove it ALL
[09:52] <WyZeGuY> ok, i did rfkill unblock and list, and it says nothing's blocked
[09:53] <WyZeGuY> Abstractd, don't i need internet to use synaptic?
[09:53] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: ok, sudo iwlist scan
[09:53] <Seveas> does it see your network?
[09:53] <WyZeGuY> eth0 interface doesn't support scanning. same with lo
[09:53] <WyZeGuY> only those two
[09:54] <DJJeff> no wlan0 shows up ?
[09:54] <WyZeGuY> no
[09:54] <DJJeff> so your kernal is missing the wireless modules
[09:54] <WyZeGuY> lib/firmware, right?
[09:55] <DJJeff> lsmod would give you a good place to start looking
[09:55] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: did rfkill actually list a wireless connection?
[09:55] <DJJeff> I have no clue what intel uses as I have atheros (ath9k)
[09:55] <WyZeGuY> jeff, under lsmod, i don't know what i'm looking at except a big list. seveas i'll recheck
[09:56] <Seveas> the 7620 is a pretty new chip
[09:56] <WyZeGuY> seveas, yes, rfkill list all shows "1:asus-wlan: wireless LAN"
[09:56] <Seveas> which Ubuntu version are you using?
[09:57] <WyZeGuY> the most recent, as of 3 days ago
[09:57] <WyZeGuY> from their wbesite
[09:57] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: http://askubuntu.com/questions/498567/intel-ac-7620-no-internet-still-connected-to-network
[09:58] <WyZeGuY> ugh another guide... ok i'll look at it
[09:58] <Seveas> this one is specific to your chip
[09:59] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: also, does this show any errors: dmesg | grep iwlwifi ; grep iwlwifi /var/log/syslog
[10:00] <WyZeGuY> seveas, when i typed it in, nothing even came up in terminal
[10:00] <DJJeff> can I have networkmanager "manage" eth0 but leave eth0:1 eth0:2 "unmanaged"?
[10:01] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=145805 has some more tips
[10:01] <Seveas> especially the post by rual93 on Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:56 am
[10:02] <WyZeGuY> i don't understand how you guys can go through pages and pages of online info. i love computers, but i need to see things to understand. but most of you real geniuses can just read through stuff online and know what they're talking about
[10:02] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: it's called experience :)
[10:02] <DJJeff> im not reading crap I just know this because I do it daily
[10:02] <DJJeff> as a hobby and a career
[10:03] <DJJeff> I get stuck too we all do
[10:04] <Seveas> stuck like glue
[10:04] <DJJeff> things change all the time and break things and fix others
[10:04] <DJJeff> its all in good fun
[10:05] <WyZeGuY> i'm on http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi, how do i know which one to download?
[10:05] <DJJeff> and I just fixed my problem woohoo
[10:06] <DJJeff> https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface
[10:06] <WyZeGuY> there are three 7260s on there
[10:07] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: which kernel version do you have? (uname -r output)
[10:08] <WyZeGuY> oh ok, uname -r output didn't do anything, but i redid uname -a, and it shows 3.13, so i guess that's the one :- ?
[10:09] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: yeah, the middle one
[10:09] <WyZeGuY> ok so this is the same file i was working with yesterday, trying to get
[10:09] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: also, that means you're *not* running the latest Ubuntu
[10:09] <Seveas> you're running 14.04, not 14.10
[10:10] <WyZeGuY> and i think it already exists in my /lib/firmware folder. the same filename and filesize is already there
[10:10] <WyZeGuY> seveas, why would that be? i downloaded straight from their site
[10:10] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: I guess they maket the LTS version more prominent
[10:10] <cfhowlett> Seveas, the latest LTS version is 14.04.1 ...
[10:11] <Seveas> cfhowlett: and the latest Ubuntu version is 14.10 :)
[10:11] <WyZeGuY> ok yea, about this computer says ubtuntu 14.04 lts
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Seveas, pick your poison.  14.10 = bleeding edge = bloody edge.
[10:12] <cfhowlett> WyZeGuY, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade your presently installed OS with upgraded packages
[10:12] <Seveas> 14.10 is just as broken as 14.04 :)
[10:12] <Seveas> maybe a little less even
[10:15] <WyZeGuY> ok so i cp'd the iwlwifi ucode to /lib/firmware .....
[10:17] <DJJeff> also $ sudo cat /etc/*release*
[10:18] <DJJeff> will show what version you are running
[10:18] <Seveas> lsb_release -a :)
[10:18] <cfhowlett> cat /etc/issue
[10:18] <DJJeff> or that
[10:18] <DJJeff> or that too
[10:18] <Seveas> yay redundancy :)
[10:19] <WyZeGuY> No LSB modules are available
[10:19] <DJJeff> yup
[10:19] <Seveas> that's normal. It still shows you what you are running :)
[10:19] <WyZeGuY> is that good or bad?
[10:19] <DJJeff> # cat /etc/issue
[10:19] <DJJeff> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[10:19] <WyZeGuY> oh, wait, but that doesn't turn my wifi on, does it?
[10:19] <DJJeff> silly \n and \l
[10:19] <DJJeff> no
[10:19] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: nope
[10:20] <WyZeGuY> :-
[10:20] <DJJeff> just checks what version of ubuntu you have
[10:20] <WyZeGuY> :-| then why did i just do that?
[10:20] <DJJeff> to help us aid you better?
[10:20] <Seveas> DJJeff: that's not silly, that tells your console where to show the login prompt :)
[10:20] <WyZeGuY> oh, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[10:20] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: try 14.10. You never know :)
[10:21] <WyZeGuY> so reinstall?
[10:21] <DJJeff> do not bite the hand thats trying to help you
[10:21] <WyZeGuY> lol i wouldn't, i use that proverb all the time. i was just confused
[10:21] <DJJeff> a dist upgrade should work for you
[10:21] <bobface> Hi there- I have 14.10 on a HP laptop with AMD FireGL card. glxinfo -info shows render as gallium llvmpipe unless I run as sudo, then it show gallium on AMD RV635
[10:21] <Seveas> DJJeff: not without a network connection :)
[10:21] <WyZeGuY> for a dist upgrade, don't i need internet first?
[10:22] <DJJeff> ahhhhhh
[10:22] <WyZeGuY> so i should reinstall right?
[10:22] <DJJeff> 2:22 am for me
[10:22] <WyZeGuY> with hey me too. central time
[10:22] <bobface> how come sudo is required to use HW renderer?
[10:22] <Seveas> DJJeff: /bin/sleep 8h && sudo make me a sandwich :)
[10:23] <DJJeff> thanks Seveas
[10:23] <WyZeGuY> oh no no no no plz plz, i've been trying for days to get wifi no /bin/sleep plz plz
[10:23] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: just download 14.10 and try with that
[10:23] <WyZeGuY> *literally just sighed*
[10:23] <WyZeGuY> ok i will
[10:25] <WyZeGuY> utopic unicorn?? lol wth
[10:25] <DJJeff> I am scared now to do service networking restart good thing I have backups
[10:25] <DJJeff> *holds breath*
[10:26] <DJJeff> oh poo on a stick
[10:26] <DJJeff> start: Job is already running: networking
[10:26] <WyZeGuY> it's going on a couple minutes man start breathing agian
[10:27] <WyZeGuY> *punches you in the stomach to make you stop holding your breath and breath again
[10:27] <WyZeGuY> oops
[10:27] <WyZeGuY> *punches you in the stomach to make you stop holding your breath and breath again*
[10:28] <WyZeGuY> a
[10:28]  * enyc blinks
[10:28] <DJJeff> woah flood of text
[10:28] <DJJeff> and ..... SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[10:28] <WyZeGuY> on your other screen?
[10:28] <DJJeff> jump for joy
[10:29] <DJJeff> ifconfig does not like virtual interfaces very much
[10:29] <Seveas> DJJeff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk
[10:29] <WyZeGuY> seveas and djjeff, would it be a good idea for me to remove all of the other wifi drivers in /lib/firmware?
[10:30] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: no, that's not a very good idea
[10:30] <WyZeGuY> i mean besides the 7260 that i need?
[10:30] <WyZeGuY> maybe those are tripping it up?
[10:30] <DJJeff> Seveas: that youtube wont play in my vlc player
[10:31] <DJJeff> sad panda now
[10:31] <DJJeff> probley a good thing not into bad rap songs
[10:32] <DJJeff> stupid flash player crashing my firefox
[10:32] <DJJeff> I always play my youtube in VLC
[10:32] <DJJeff> lots of love for VLC <3
[10:33] <Seveas> I don't use flash for youtube. html5 <3
[10:35] <DJJeff> taadaa........ https://bpaste.net/show/7c4353eb76d2
[10:36] <DJJeff> took some hard work but I got it now.....
[10:36] <alpamega> ciao
[10:36] <Seveas> *slowclap*
[10:36] <alpamega> !list
[10:37] <DJJeff> so does ifupdown have a restart command or a gtk gui
[10:38] <sacarlson1> DJJeff: I'm not sure but it might be what network-manager uses
[10:38] <Seveas> sacarlson1: it's not.
[10:38] <DJJeff> network-manager causes problems when I use airmon-ng for wifi hacking
[10:39] <DJJeff> I dislike network-mannager
[10:39] <DJJeff> also I need my eth0:1 to be up 24/7 because its doing naughty things
[10:40] <DJJeff> like capturing router traffic in a DMZ
[10:40] <Seveas> network-manager is great unless you want to do tricky things, like multiple IP addresses. Or more than one VPN
[10:41] <DJJeff> yes
[10:41] <DJJeff> which is what I have in my setup
[10:41] <WyZeGuY> more than one vpn? isn't that basically what tor is for?
[10:41] <DJJeff> I use network manager on my laptop its great
[10:41] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: tor is the opposite of a vpn
[10:42] <Seveas> vpn keeps your data secure, tor makes it widely available
[10:42] <WyZeGuY> oh hiding in plain sight
[10:42] <Seveas> not even that
[10:42] <Seveas> tor is considered so broken these days that any benefits it says it have are really lies
[10:43] <WyZeGuY> do you think it's true that if everyone used it, that it would be more efficient?
[10:43] <sacarlson1> Seveas: well that's good to know.  I have a friend using it for bad things
[10:43] <DJJeff> people can see what your surfing that just cant see who is surfing it
[10:43] <DJJeff> over tor
[10:43] <Seveas> DJJeff: oh they can. Tor is broken.
[10:44] <DJJeff> really?
[10:44] <WyZeGuY> seveas then why not submit the bugs you know of to the tor developers?
[10:44] <DJJeff> I only use tor on IRC to stop me from getting DDoS attacked
[10:44] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: because they already know. It's not bugs in the software but in the underlying ideas behind tor.
[10:44] <WyZeGuY> hahahahaha
[10:45] <WyZeGuY> djjeff, i was thinking i'd been ddosed before. all at once, a bunch of colorful blocks from thousands of usernames all flooded my screen. any idea what that was?
[10:45] <Seveas> WyZeGuY: that's not a ddos. That's just idiots flooding channels.
[10:46] <WyZeGuY> identically at the same second?
[10:47] <DJJeff> ddos is an attack where your internet no longer works you are denied service to internet
[10:47] <DJJeff> because you are under a flood attack of internet packets
[10:47] <DJJeff> from zombie computers
[10:47] <WyZeGuY> :-0
[10:47] <DJJeff> irc floods are just lame and so 1990s
[10:48] <WyZeGuY> that would be horrible
[10:48] <WyZeGuY> yea i remember floods back in the 90s too. on AIM tho, cuz i was a kid and didn't use irc
[10:48] <WyZeGuY> life without internet is no life at all
[10:48] <hatem_> hallo
[10:50] <WyZeGuY> speaking of internet. still trying on 14.04.1 to get wifi, while this computer downloads 14.10 ... oh wait, don't need that 0. ubunto 14.1 there we go. so the readme says to configure the kernel by going to Device Drivers -> Generic Driver Options -> Userspace firmware loading support ... lol i can't find that
[10:52] <bonhoeffer> when i log in I get 7 packages can be updated. 7 updates are security updates. — i do sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but that doesn’t take care of it
[10:53] <WyZeGuY> try sudo do it do it now
[10:59] <DJJeff> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:59] <DJJeff> might be kernel updates
[11:00] <DJJeff> ok now 3am dead tired good luck in your upgrade WyZeGuY
[11:00] <WyZeGuY> thank djjeff
[11:00] <WyZeGuY> *thanks
[11:03] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. If that doesn't work, pastebin its output
[11:03] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[11:04] <bonhoeffer> now it says: *** System restart required ***
[11:04] <bonhoeffer> which is annoying — this site is running lots of web sites
[11:04] <bonhoeffer> and i thought linus bragged that he never restarted
[11:05] <OerHeks> bonhoeffer, that is up to you. and Linus never said you never need a reboot.
[11:05] <bonhoeffer> so what technically requires a reboot?
[11:06] <Seveas> bonhoeffer: if you want high uptime, build an HA system with multiple machines. per-machine uptime is irrelevant, rebooting to apply security updates for e.g. the kernel or glibc outweigh uptime.
[11:06] <bonhoeffer> good point
[11:08] <Ugb8> Hey guys, I just had installed ubuntu on a system with a GT210 and proprietary Nvidia drivers, but all my videos are lightly stuttering with any video player, even with xbmc and vdpau enable, any idea ?
[11:11] <snuskgubben> do you lovley ubuntu-gurus have got a bash channel?
[11:13] <bazhang> #bash
[11:13] <snuskgubben> Thanks :)
[11:13] <test__> hello
[11:13] <WyZeGuY> olleh
[11:18] <LinuxInside1> hello?
[11:18] <WyZeGuY> ?olleh
[11:19] <snuskgubben> Tarf?
[11:19] <WyZeGuY> ?fraT
[11:20] <snuskgubben> traf!
[11:20] <WyZeGuY> !frat
[11:20] <WyZeGuY> !fart
[11:20] <bazhang> WyZeGuY, cut that out
[11:20] <WyZeGuY> lol :-( moodkiller
[11:21] <bazhang> the chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic WyZeGuY
[11:21] <WyZeGuY> ok
[11:21] <ManDay> What is "Ubuntu Tablet", actually? I've just seen this impressive video with Shuttleworth on the website but I can't find any place where it can be downloaded?
[11:21] <bazhang> !touch | ManDay
[11:22] <ManDay> bazhang: Thanks!
[11:24] <Samurairm> hi
[11:25] <Samurairm> hou we connectwithout knowing the key wpa? telecom italia
[11:25] <Samurairm> pvt?
[11:25] <Samurairm> i m an italian boys
[11:25] <Samurairm> boy
[11:26] <johndoedoe> hi, ubuntu peepl, Anyone knows a simple video player where I can see accurate frames or milli seconds. Its for cutting afterwards. Ta anyway
[11:26] <OerHeks> Samurairm, likely not, get that WPA key first.
[11:26] <novato_br> hi, how can I calculate amount of memory to spend with 7zip ?
[11:26] <novato_br> is there any 7z calculator of memory?
[11:27] <johndoedoe> Samurairm: wps I think you mean
[11:27] <OerHeks> johndoedoe, i think he means WPA2
[11:27] <Seveas> johndoedoe: cinelerra or openshot come to mind
[11:27] <Samurairm> jes wps
[11:28] <Seveas> novato_br: That depends on the file you're (de-)compressing
[11:28] <johndoedoe> OerHeks: :p wps
[11:28] <novato_br> I want to compress it
[11:28] <Samurairm> wpa key
[11:29] <novato_br> I'd like to know how to calculate, apparently any settings that I put on 7zip, it's told me that is not possible, because there is not memory enough
[11:29] <johndoedoe> Seveas: cinelerra I will not use, kde app. Openshot, maybe yes. I'll give it a shot. Pitivi maybe also
[11:30] <Seveas> novato_br: how much memory do you have?
[11:30] <Samurairm> i calculate wpa modem alice telecom-italia?
[11:30] <novato_br> 8GB
[11:30] <novato_br> I'm running windows 7 ultimate
[11:30] <Seveas> novato_br: then ask in a windows channel. This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[11:30] <Seveas> shoo
[11:31] <Ugb8> Any idea on how I can troubleshot my stuttering video playback with a GT210 and prorietary drivers ? here is my vdpauinfo : http://pastebin.com//0j6RVGxt
[11:31] <novato_br> the problem is not with windows
[11:31] <novato_br> the problem is the software settings
[11:31] <Seveas> then come back when you fail to compress with 7z on Ubuntu.
[11:31] <novato_br> ok
[11:42] <LinuxInside> hello.
[11:43] <_thewarlock_> M having problems playing an mp3 cd
[11:43] <_thewarlock_> it shows blank
[11:44] <ManDay> _thewarlock_: What do you mean it shows blank?
[11:45] <_thewarlock_> whenever I open its window, it displays nothing, Completely Empty
[11:46] <LinuxInside> is your cd reader able to read this cd format that you have? i don't know
[11:46] <ManDay> _thewarlock_: Open a terminal and type   mount    press Enter, what's the last entry?
[11:46] <ManDay> (Rather, paste the whole output if you can)
[11:47] <_thewarlock_> yea it did on windows, i recently shifted to Ubuntu n m a complete  noob at it
[11:53] <LinuxInside> is your cd mounted in /media/<your name>/<name od the cd>/?
[11:55] <LinuxInside> when yes type in a termianl: cd /media/<your name>/<name of the cd>/ and than type ls and say what is there.
[11:55] <LinuxInside> if there nothing?
[11:55] <LinuxInside> in the terminal?
[11:55] <maks> Salam
[11:57] <dreamcat4> hello. i'm on 14.10 and am a bit concerned about WINE
[11:57] <maks> Prompt, Django project must be in a virtual environment?
[11:57] <dreamcat4> apt says it needs to install 176 packages for wine, as it's dependancies
[11:58] <dreamcat4> doesn't that sound a bit crazy to anyone else here ?
[11:58] <WyZeGuY> seveas, hey i'm back
[11:58] <WyZeGuY> running 14.1 live right now, and wifi isn't showing on it
[11:59] <LinuxInside> what wifi card do you have?
[11:59] <WyZeGuY> intel 7260
[12:00] <WyZeGuY> the filename is iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode. it's already in my /lib/firmware
[12:00] <LinuxInside> i had the same problem with a laptop.
[12:01] <WyZeGuY> this is an asus q502la
[12:01] <WyZeGuY> it has 14.04 installed right now, but i'm running 14.10 live and it's still not picking up
[12:01] <WyZeGuY> linuxinside did you fix it before?
[12:02] <LinuxInside> no but when i installed ubuntu and the update was finished it worked
[12:02] <WyZeGuY> update or upgrade?
[12:02] <LinuxInside> i installed ubuntu over ethernet
[12:02] <WyZeGuY> any idea on how to get it when you don't have access to the cable?
[12:03] <sgen> does restarting openssh-server via 'sudo service ssh restart' change the rsa host key or am I being man in the middled?
[12:05] <OerHeks> sgen, no. about man-in-the-middle, why do you think that?
[12:05] <LinuxInside> noas far as I do not know.
[12:06] <maks> l
[12:06] <LinuxInside> why man-in-the-middle?
[12:07] <sgen> OerHeks: http://pastie.org/private/tbkyl9qwhxokqpl2cfwgvg
[12:07] <LinuxInside> no thats onlny a warning
[12:07] <sgen> the warning continues and says something about a mitm
[12:07] <LinuxInside> the computer things that it is a mitm attack
[12:07] <sgen> Well Ive never seen that warning before
[12:07] <sgen> So Im asking
[12:08] <sgen> I figured lo
[12:08] <OerHeks> sgen did your host-ip change ?
[12:09] <OerHeks> then the ssh key does not match anymore
[12:09] <sgen> OerHeks: not sure, Ive been connecting via dns for a while.
[12:09] <sgen> It happened after I restarted the ssh server. I ssh
[12:09] <WyZeGuY> um, wait so every time you encounter dns spoofing, it's a hacker?
[12:09] <LinuxInside> is the IP behind the DNS a static or a dynamic IP?
[12:10] <WyZeGuY> or do legitimate websites use it too?
[12:10] <sgen> 'd fine without issue, restarted the server to change the ssh port to something other than 22 and tried to ssh again. then I go this.
[12:10] <sgen> should be static actually
[12:10] <OerHeks> sgen good to mention that, did you change enything else too?
[12:11] <sgen> OerHeks: nothing
[12:13] <OerHeks> sgen,  regenerate your keys, now you know what happens when something changes.
[12:14] <sgen> OerHeks: So I have nothing to worry about? Doesnt the change in IP indicate an issue considering that my vps has a static ip?
[12:15] <OerHeks> sgen no, the change of port used, caused this likely
[12:15] <sgen> ahh
[12:17] <xyzwhatever> when I put a usb stick in, it says "unable to mount location    not authorized" :((((((((((((((
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: try sudo
[12:18] <xyzwhatever> ok
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: what partition is your usb formatted in?
[12:19] <xyzwhatever> FAT32
[12:20] <xyzwhatever> it says my stupid user is not in sudoers file :(
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: maybe try gparted and reformat the usb
[12:20] <LinuxInside> than you must login as root and change the sudo file!
[12:20] <embik> isn't root deactivated by default on Ubuntu?
[12:21] <LinuxInside> or do that as root
[12:21] <LinuxInside> actually already
[12:21] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: do you have sother user accounts on your system?
[12:21] <xyzwhatever> i dont know the root passwort i guess
[12:22] <k1l_> there is no root password.
[12:22] <LinuxInside> xyzwhatever: thats not good
[12:22] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: are there other user accounts on that system?
[12:22] <k1l_> LinuxInside: that is very good.
[12:22] <xyzwhatever> yes many accounts
[12:22] <LinuxInside> k1l_: what?
[12:22] <k1l_> LinuxInside: ubuntu does not have a enabled root password. so dont mix things here please
[12:23] <LinuxInside> k1l_: oh raelly? sorry.
[12:23] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: can you loginto a user account that got admin permissions? is this your pc?
[12:24] <xyzwhatever> k1l_   nope its not mine :( i dont have admin :( ok i dont use usb then
[12:24] <dcmwai> Hello all.
[12:24] <embik> hello :)
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> dcmwai: welcome
[12:25] <k1l_> xyzwhatever: ok, then there is not much you can do. the admin needs to put your account into some gropus so you can do what you want.
[12:25] <dcmwai> Anyone have any guide on openproject installation.
[12:25] <dcmwai> I try to follow https://www.openproject.org/download/packaged-installation/
[12:25] <dcmwai> But can't seem to get the package.
[12:26] <oomf> hello
[12:26] <sgen> somethings still up
[12:26] <oomf> anyone here?
[12:26] <LinuxInside> hello!
[12:26] <oomf> hi
[12:26] <oomf> hi
[12:26] <embik> dcmai: did you run the terminal commands?
[12:26] <oomf> i need some help
[12:27] <oomf> im trying to install vlc
[12:27] <embik> *dcmwai
[12:27] <dcmwai> embik: Yes
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> oomf: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:27] <k1l_> oomf: "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[12:27] <oomf> i know but
[12:27] <oomf> ill paste the error
[12:27] <LinuxInside> ok
[12:27] <dcmwai> I'm using Gentoo normally.
[12:27] <embik> dcmwai: are you getting any error?
[12:28] <oomf> heres my error
[12:28] <oomf> http://pastebin.com/0wuUZ24M
[12:28] <k1l_> dcmwai: please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[12:28] <sgen> Im still getting the error when I try to ssh into my vps http://pastie.org/private/aj66otmpfu0hih1sdy44dg
[12:29] <embik> oomf: what Ubuntu version are you using?
[12:29] <OerHeks> oomf, what ubuntu version?
[12:29] <oomf> uhhhh
[12:29] <dcmwai> https://community.openproject.org/topics/3519
[12:29] <k1l_> oomf: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin please
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> dcmwai: your on ubuntu server 64bit?
[12:29] <embik> oomf: what does "lCCsb_release -a
[12:30] <k1l_> dcmwai: see my paste request. and what ubuntu are you on?
[12:30] <embik> woops
[12:30] <dcmwai> lotuspsychje: Yea.
[12:30] <embik> oomf: what does "lsb_release -a" says in terminal?
[12:30] <dcmwai> 14.04 64
[12:30] <sgen> w/e I just deleted my known hosts. the VPS's ip matches
[12:30] <dcmwai> k1l_: sorry was outside.
[12:30] <k1l_> dcmwai: wait: https://deb.packager.io/gh/opf/openproject  is not available. so openproject needs to fix that
[12:31] <dcmwai> k1l_:  I think im right as well ;)
[12:31] <dcmwai> k1l_: Thank you for confirmating.
[12:32] <oomf_> ok im back
[12:32] <embik> welcome back ;)
[12:32] <oomf_> what did u guys want me to do again
[12:32] <Diogo> Hi
[12:32] <embik> what does "lsb_release -a" say on your terminal?
[12:32] <Diogo> :D
[12:32] <k1l_> k1l_> oomf: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin please
[12:32] <Diogo> Hey guys
[12:33] <Diogo> I'm new and need some help
[12:33] <Diogo> :S
[12:33] <embik> hi Diogo, no problem
[12:33] <embik> what's your issue? :)
[12:33] <oomf_> http://pastebin.com/1SFJ0WA0
[12:33] <oomf_> there ya go
[12:33] <Diogo> Ok so using the software manager I have installed deluge, a torrent
[12:33] <Diogo> or a torrent downloader
[12:33] <oomf_> what do now
[12:33] <embik> oomf_, you are using an ubuntu version with no support
[12:33] <k1l_> oomf_: raring is end of life. you need to update asap
[12:34] <embik> it is outdated
[12:34] <k1l_> !eolupgrades | oomf_
[12:34] <oomf_> so i cant get vlc?
[12:34] <Diogo> Im using linux mint
[12:34] <Diogo> aaand
[12:34] <embik> yes
[12:34] <oomf_> or something to play mp4/3 files
[12:34] <k1l_> oomf_: your system is insecure and vulnerable for a 14 year old
[12:34] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues, Diogo
[12:34] <OerHeks> !mint
[12:34] <oomf_> so what do
[12:34] <embik> install 14.04 LTS
[12:34] <k1l_> oomf_: see the bots message
[12:34] <Diogo> What do you mean
[12:35] <embik> Diogo, you are not using Ubuntu, you are using Linux Mint
[12:35] <oomf_> ok well i have that video application
[12:35] <Diogo> I know
[12:35] <embik> this is an ubuntu channel
[12:35] <oomf_> but it doesnt have the codecs
[12:35] <k1l_> embik: oomf_ no need to reinstall. you can upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[12:35] <Diogo> but Mint is a type of ubuntu right?
[12:35] <embik> yeah, but not supported here
[12:35] <k1l_> Diogo: use the support channel that is made autojoin in your irc client. thanks
[12:35] <embik> k1l_ are the upgrade routines still available for 13.04?
[12:35] <OerHeks> Diogo do you go with your Toyota to a Mercedes dealer?
[12:35] <oomf_> so basicallly the only thing i can do is upgrde
[12:36] <embik> yes and you should
[12:36] <LinuxInside> I have a question to ubuntu 14.04. When i lock my screen with STRG+ALT+L and i don't move my mouse then the screen darknes up. How can i stop that?
[12:36] <k1l_> embik: yes, see the bots message
[12:36] <Pantsu> LinuxInside: man xset
[12:36] <oomf_> but wait can i get the codecs for rythmbox or videos?
[12:37] <embik> oomf_: the package repositories for 13.04 are shut down
[12:37] <embik> you cannot install anything
[12:37] <Pantsu> oomf_: install gst-plugins-(good,bad,ugly) etc
[12:37] <Pantsu> install/build
[12:37] <k1l_> oomf_: you have no choice besides making your system supported again with going the upgrades
[12:37] <oomf_> god damnit
[12:37] <k1l_> Pantsu: dont do that
[12:37] <Pantsu> but you really should upgrade
[12:37] <OerHeks> Pantsu, useless, his release is EOL
[12:37] <yeats> oomf_: back up your files onto external media and reinstall ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[12:37] <oomf_> i will updte
[12:37] <oomf_> but i want to watch this video
[12:38] <oomf_> before tommorow
[12:38] <oomf_> but i guess thats now possible
[12:38] <embik> it is not
[12:38] <OerHeks> oomf_, you want but you can't right now
[12:38] <Pantsu> oomf_: download any live image, boot it and watch it from it?
[12:38] <oomf_> live image?
[12:38] <k1l_> oomf_: yes. update to 13.10 then 14.04 and than you can watch movies again
[12:39] <oomf_> ok then what are the default codecs for video
[12:39] <embik> oomf_: you should mind release circles next time :) i propose you use the LTS version 14.04, this will get updates for max 5 years
[12:39] <oomf_> myabe i can convert my video
[12:40] <yeats> !eolupgrade | oomf_
[12:40] <oomf_> yea i know i need to upgrade
[12:40] <yeats> oomf_: that's really your only option (at least it's all that would be supported in this channel ;-) )
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> oomf_: download vlc
[12:40] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: dont do that
[12:40] <oomf_> but what about the default codecs that come with the videos appliction
[12:41] <WyZeGuY> a
[12:41] <cfhowlett_> ask #mint
[12:41] <k1l_> oomf_: first make the upgrades. than you can go to the "vlc issue" :)
[12:41] <embik> the time you waste for wondering if you could convert the video (for what you need another application, most likely), you could backup your data and do the upgrade :)
[12:41] <oomf_> ok then
[12:42] <oomf_> i just downloaded some killer porn i wanted to watch tonight
[12:42] <embik> xd
[12:42] <oomf_> guess i gotta wait till tommorow
[12:42] <WyZeGuY> killer porn? is that the kind where they rape then murder?
[12:42] <oomf_> nope
[12:42] <oomf_> its featuring alexis texas
[12:42] <WyZeGuY> oh that's good for a second there i thought you were deranged
[12:43] <oomf_> one of the greatest porn stars
[12:43] <oomf_> of all time
[12:43] <k1l_> oomf_: drop that topic in here please.
[12:44] <oomf_> well thanks for all your help
[12:44] <nbat> hello! does somebody know how to skip partman in installer via preseed file?
[12:44] <oomf_> is there a commnd where i can update
[12:44] <usr13> oomf_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:44] <k1l_> oomf_: did you read the bots message? it was linked to you twice
[12:45] <embik> usr13: nope
[12:45] <usr13> embik: What?
[12:45] <oomf_> oh my bd
[12:45] <k1l_> !eolupgrade > oomf_
[12:45] <k1l_> usr13: upgrading a 13.04
[12:45] <embik> usr13: you cannot upgrade your ubuntu version with that
[12:46] <oomf_> oh
[12:46] <usr13> oomf_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:46] <nbat> how to skip automatic partitioning while installing the system?
[12:47] <usr13> embik: I know, but he just asked about update not for a distribution upgrade
[12:47] <cfhowlett_> bad command and wrong place for support ...
[12:47] <embik> usr13: distribution upgrade is the topic all the time :)
[12:48] <usr13> oomf_: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[12:48] <Deepfriedice> nbat: There should be a "manual partitioning" checkbox during the install.
[12:48] <k1l_> usr13: he runs a 13.04 and needs to adjust to old-releases first. but if he sticks to the wiki page he will accomplish
[12:49] <nbat> Deepfriedice: I mean to skip automatic partitioning completely and use own script for automatic partitioning and mounting, so that the installer will just take the state and install the system on it
[12:50] <usr13> k1l_: I see.  And we have already told him what to do. So he is just taking up space?
[12:50] <k1l_> usr13: i think he just needs some time to read the wiki page and will succeed then. :)
[12:51] <usr13> Yea ok.  Sorry.  I saw a question, I answered the question, (as was stated)....
[12:51] <k1l_> usr13: no biggie :)
[12:52] <LinuxInside> how does ist work with xset? I have no idea how can i stop darking up my screen in the screen lock mode.
[12:52] <LinuxInside> with STRG+ALT+L
[12:54] <usr13> LinuxInside: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9195437/
[12:55] <usr13> LinuxInside: Where ever you put it, just make a startup script that says xset what-ever...
[12:55] <Novice201y_> Hello. I'm logged in Ubuntu 14.10 on PC where disc is fully encrypted (done during Ubuntu installation). How can I remove encryption without reinstalling whole system?
[12:55] <viic_> hey
[12:55] <viic_> i use ssh a lot and in my /tmp folder i have noticed strange directories; like pulse-* and ssh-*. Should i remove them?
[12:56] <usr13> LinuxInside: But I do not know what you mean by "ist"
[12:56] <usr13> (don't know what "ist" is)
[12:56] <viic_> ps aux displays "ssh-agent", but my all ssh connections are closed (and ss prints no results). What happen?
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: That is normal
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: if you have sshd running
[12:57] <nbat> can somebody help to understand some automatic installer (partman, preseed) recipe things: "$defaultignore" and "$lvmignore" and how to create a physical lvm volume explicitly and use it for a VG, and then create in there some logical disks?
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: Oh well maybe not.
[12:57] <usr13> viic_: who
[12:58] <viic_> usr13: so even im not connected to ssh at the moment?
[12:58] <usr13> viic_: Look and see:  who
[12:58] <usr13> viic_: (Disregard my first response...)
[12:59] <viic_> no other users are logged in
[12:59] <viic_> (speaking of who)
[12:59] <usr13> viic_: (I looked to see if it was normal or not but inadvertently  looked at a box that has an ssh session active.)
[13:00] <viic_> so what having ssh-agent running (even i'm not connected to the internet!) and having ssh-* files in /tmp means?
[13:00] <viic_> is it something wrong, or it's supposed behavior?
[13:01] <viic_> who displays only one entry
[13:01] <usr13> viic_: How many users are logged in?
[13:01] <viic_> only me
[13:01] <usr13> viic_: Ok.
[13:01] <viic_> who:   root tty7
[13:01] <lnxmen> Hello
[13:01] <usr13> viic_: Your user name is "root"?
[13:02] <viic_> yup, I've logged as root to check that issue
[13:02] <viic_> other users are logged out (machine is after reboot)
[13:02] <rootgenie> How can i change the calendar system language?
[13:02] <usr13> viic_: So you have activated the root account on this system?
[13:02] <viic_> what do you mean?
[13:03] <viic_> ok, here how it looks like:
[13:03] <usr13> viic_: Are you logged into the xserver as root?
[13:03] <viic_> yup
[13:03] <usr13> viic_: Why?
[13:03] <viic_> xserver is graphical interface?
[13:03] <usr13> viic_: What is the user name, (the one you created when y ou installed?
[13:03] <usr13> Yes gui
[13:04] <viic_> Wait, I'll explain it a little bit clear.
[13:04] <usr13> viic_: Please do.
[13:04] <viic_> I have three accounts on the system: root, A, B. Each of them ran ssh on the system (but they closed the connection). After reboot, I've noticed in /tmp 3 directories ssh-*
[13:05] <viic_> When I log in (xserver) from A, or B, or root
[13:05] <usr13> viic_: So you have a regular user named "root"?
[13:05] <rootgenie> How can i change the calendar system language?
[13:05] <belgaat> Hi, Howcome I don't have ffprobe? Ffmpeg is installed tho.
[13:06] <viic_> and do ps aux | grep "ssh", I got entry:  "ssh-agent"
[13:06] <viic_> usr13: no, root is root-user
[13:06] <viic_> id  --> uid=0; gid0=; groups=0
[13:06] <usr13> viic_: What is user name you used when you first installed?
[13:06] <viic_> other users are non root
[13:06] <viic_> root?
[13:06] <viic_> i guess