[12:00] <virgule> ::hrrmrmmmphhh!!::
[12:01] <teh_pwner> kbrooks, i got it from here http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gift-ares/
[12:01] <demiurge> I'm having a problem with the nvidia drivers on breezy, I installed the restricted driver package, but they don't seem to be in there
[12:01] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: tar -xjvf file
[12:02] <confrey> confrey, I don't think so, try /etc/init.d/acpi restart
[12:02] <confrey> I need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in
[12:02] <teh_pwner> that didn't work
[12:03] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[12:03] <Ronald> !java
[12:03] <ubotu> java is probably to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:03] <dooglus> teh_pwner: just use "tar xf file"
[12:03] <kbrooks> dooglus: No.
[12:03] <dooglus> kbrooks: why?
[12:04] <kbrooks> xf is for a *plain tar file*
[12:04] <BlurredWe> hey, how do I change the services that start via the command line?  (ie, something in /etc/init.d that I want to start on boot)
[12:04] <dooglus> kbrooks: it works on plain files too
[12:04] <kbrooks> dooglus: I ask you please use the extension
[12:04] <kbrooks> '.tar.bz2'
[12:04] <teh_pwner> tar: file: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:04] <teh_pwner> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:05] <kbrooks> you extract with bunzip2, THEN untar
[12:05] <dooglus> kbrooks: what do you mean?
[12:05] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: thats just a example
[12:05] <_chavo> tar will bunzip the file also -> tar xjf
[12:05] <_chavo> j is for bunzip
[12:05] <jmg> confrey: i have a toshi
[12:06] <confrey> jmg, laptop?
[12:06] <kbrooks> _chavo: v is needed to show him  where the extraction goes
[12:06] <jmg> confrey: yeah
[12:06] <ghb> How do I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[12:06] <dooglus> kbrooks: "tar xf" works on .tar files as well as .tar.gz and .tar.bz2.  you don't need to use "j" and "z" any more
[12:06] <confrey> jmg, is pcmcia  working?
[12:06] <propagandhi> ghb: nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:06] <jmg> confrey: don't use
[12:07] <ghb> propagandhi: Thank you, I'll try that.
[12:07] <jmg> confrey: im also on kubuntu so i dont get gnome-powermanager
[12:07] <kbrooks> dooglus: I don't believe you, and won't, even with proof
[12:07] <dooglus> kbrooks: just try it!
[12:07] <La_PaRCa> um... yeah, so, next time anyone hears me say im upgrading to the latest release, remind me not to do it before i _FREE_ appropriate space in my hdd
[12:07] <lllmanulll> dooglus, Sorry, the "xvzf" sequence is hard-coded into my fingers :-p
[12:08] <kbrooks> dooglus: just tried, and it works ;)
[12:08] <dooglus> kbrooks: I don't believe you.  and won't, even with proof.
[12:08] <kbrooks> dooglus: Stop mocking me
[12:08] <nalioth> lllmanulll: make aliases
[12:09] <lllmanulll> nalioth, Right :)
[12:09] <dooglus> kbrooks: interestingly, the file doesn't even have to have a .tar.bz2 extension.  you can rename it to anything you like, and tar will still see that it's bz2'ed
[12:10] <cafuego_> that's not interesting, that's magic.
[12:10] <demiurge> are you supposed to install the -nvidia-legacy package?
[12:10] <Determinist> any of you guys have a PDA with windows mobile on it?
[12:11] <_chavo> yup, it's sorcery. It's EVIL!
[12:11] <cafuego_> demiurge: if you have a geforce4 or older, yes.
[12:11] <cafuego_> _chavo: No, *magic*
[12:11] <_chavo> oh yeah, that too
[12:11] <cafuego_> Specifically, /etc/magic
[12:11] <dooglus> cafuego_: /etc/magic I guess
[12:11] <jmg> Oct  4 10:55:42 localhost kernel: [4294909.822000]  mtrr: base(0xd8020000) is not
[12:11] <jmg>  aligned on a size(0x300000) boundary
[12:11] <jmg> Oct  4 10:55:43 localhost shutdown[8203] : shutting down for system halt
[12:11] <kbrooks> tar uses libmagic?
[12:11] <demiurge> no, i have a new card
[12:12] <_chavo> well not having .bz2 breaks my bash_completion, so meh to that
[12:12] <demiurge> but it doesn't seem to have the drivers in the regular package
[12:12] <cafuego_> kbrooks: it may have built-in magic strings for its supported archives types.
[12:12] <dooglus> cafuego_: it's even stronger magic than you thought - /etc/magic is empty!
[12:12] <demiurge> modprobe nvidia fails
[12:12] <_chavo> I have to haxor bash_completion to be magic too
[12:12] <cafuego_> !find magic
[12:12] <ghb> propagandhi: I still can't edit that file menu.lst. =(
[12:12] <jmg> demiurge: nice nick
[12:12] <cafuego_> stupid bot
[12:13] <demiurge> thank you
[12:13] <propagandhi> ghb: are you doing it as root
[12:13] <_jason> ghb:  are you using sudo?
[12:13] <ghb> propagandhi: Umm...no...
[12:13] <_chavo> he's still looking
[12:13] <jmg> confrey: i am using klaptop and enabled suspend on close lid
[12:13] <propagandhi> that explains it
[12:13] <ghb> _jason: I'm using something called nano, apparently...
[12:13] <ghb> propagandhi: I'll log in as root.
[12:13] <_jason> ghb: sudo gedit file
[12:13] <propagandhi> no, just do sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:13] <kbrooks> ghb: nano is a good text editor
[12:13] <_jason> ghb:  or "sudo nano file" whatever you prefer
[12:14] <confrey> jmg, I always had problems using that option, I dismissed kde by this fact
[12:14] <ghb> propagandhi: Okay... I can't login as root because I don't know the password... =(
[12:15] <confrey> I sleep only by button sleep, and resume by power button
[12:15] <cafuego_> ghb: there is no root password.
[12:15] <propagandhi> it should be the same as urs
[12:15] <demiurge> ghb: do   sudo nano file
[12:15] <demiurge> and put in your user password
[12:15] <ghb> Too much info at once...!
[12:15] <cafuego_> ghb: ie: you cannot log in as root. You should use 'sudo'.
[12:15] <dooglus> tar has the magic strings hardcoded in buffer.c
[12:15] <dooglus> for example:   { ct_bzip2,    "BZh",      3, "bzip2", "-j" },
[12:15] <cafuego_> ergo, it's magic ;-)
[12:15] <dooglus> ("BZh" is the bzip2 magic string)
[12:16] <propagandhi> ghb: its simple, just do 'sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[12:17] <ghb> propagandhi: I did...and I made the changes, but they don't save.
[12:17] <demiurge> it puts some nvidia files in /lib/linux-restricted-modules but nothing in my /lib/modules/kernelver/
[12:17] <dwuerz> hello! trying to install ubuntu on my laptop...but it always hangs on starting hotplug subsystem :(
[12:17] <demiurge> nothing useful anyway
[12:17] <cafuego_> ghb: When you run the command propagandhi pasted, you will be asked for YOUR password.
[12:17] <ghb> cafuego: I used that.
[12:17] <ghb> cafuego: I can enter the file and everything, and I make the changes, then do CTRL+X and save, and then CTRL+X and 'No' in order to exit.
[12:17] <cafuego_> ghb; yep. WHen running through sudo, you have root privileges, so you can save that file again.
[12:17] <virgule> pretty please, tell me how to fix this puzzle. Much thanks..  http://pastebin.com/382079
[12:18] <ghb> cafuego: How do you save the file...?
[12:19] <propagandhi> ghb: choose Y to write changes
[12:19] <propagandhi> instead of N
[12:19] <ghb> propagandhi: I do that. =(
[12:19] <ghb> propagandhi: And it says "File Name to Write: /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:19] <confrey> bye, time to sleep
[12:19] <ghb> propagandhi: But still nothing's being saved...
[12:19] <propagandhi> ghb: yes, and then u just press enter
[12:20] <propagandhi> and it should drop u out of nano
[12:20] <ghb> propagandhi: Hey! Now it worked! *yaaay*
[12:20] <ghb> *prays to God that it works*
[12:21] <demiurge> no ideas about the nvidia drivers?
[12:21] <demiurge> they just seem to be absent
[12:21] <cafuego_> demiurge: afaik, it installs old versions of nvidia libraries.
[12:21] <tony_the_cable_g> I cannt find where a program placed its folders. The program is aMule.
[12:21] <demiurge> so just use the legacy versions
[12:21] <demiurge> ?
[12:21] <cafuego_> demiurge: That's as much as I know, my card isn't very crusty as of yet.
[12:22] <ghb> propagandhi: Can you help me again...? My laptop won't boot now... =(
[12:22] <propagandhi> ghb: whats the error
[12:23] <ghb> propagandhi: I removed the lines "acpi=off noacpi" and now it just hangs, liked it did when I tried to install Ubuntu.
[12:23] <propagandhi> ok, well when you get to the grub menu press 'E' i think it is, and you can add that line again to make it boot
[12:23] <dwuerz> ghb: I am having the same problem...but i cant even run it the first time :(
[12:25] <ghb> dwuerz: If you type "acpi=off noacpi", it should be able to boot. At least it works for me when I use it...
[12:25] <dwuerz> ghb: tried that but didnt succed :(
[12:25] <ghb> propagandhi: I don't like the idea of not being able to use ACPI on my laptop. Any idea on how to fix it?
[12:25] <ghb> dwuerz: You got a laptop?
[12:25] <dwuerz> yes
[12:25] <ghb> dwuerz: Hmm. No idea, to be frank. I'm new to Linux too.
[12:26] <cafuego_> See if there's an updated bios, see if the problem is something else (www.linux-laptop.net) or get a laptop that works ;-)
[12:26] <virgule> wtf is "abi-2.6.12-9-powerpc" ??
[12:26] <dwuerz> ghb: hold on I'll try again...i always put noapic...maybe noacpi works ;)
[12:27] <_native_> hey guys what is a good gui app for wireless card configuration. the networking applet dose not seem to even work setting up WEP and yes my card is supported and yes i know howto config it manually. just need a app that works. so i have to. :-}
[12:27] <kbrooks> i want colors on my bash prompt
[12:27] <_native_> * dont have to ;-P
[12:27] <ghb> dwuerz: Ah. That might be the problem. =)
[12:27] <cafuego_> _native_: There's a network thingie that you can add to the panel. See also 'wifi-radar'.
[12:27] <FhaeTon> does anyone know which nForce chipset drivers are needed to run Ubuntu on a 64bit rig?
[12:28] <demiurge> ok, i guess i'll just try to compile them from source
[12:28] <ghb> cafuego: On my laptop, there's a button to activate the WLAN. It works flawlessly in Windows XP, but not in Ubuntu. Any way to activate it?
[12:28] <demiurge> with the nvidia-kernel-source package
[12:28] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: They're in the kernel. Just insert cd & boot.
[12:28] <vitriol> anybody know how to set up a bluetooth mouse?
[12:28] <vitriol> there's no docs on it
[12:28] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: You do _NOT_ need to fetch driver from the nvidia site.
[12:28] <_native_> "a network thingie" nice.....
[12:28] <FhaeTon> oh
[12:28] <_native_> :-)
[12:28] <demiurge> yeah, i'm running nforce4 with 64 bit opterons right now
[12:28] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: What mobo do you have?
[12:29] <vitriol>       00:0A:94:C0:DB:AE       Bluetooth  Mouse
[12:29] <vitriol> dunno how to just make it work
[12:29] <vitriol> :\
[12:29] <dwuerz> well...now i dont even come that far...new error: "BIOS handoff failed" :(
[12:29] <FhaeTon> ASUS SLI premium
[12:29] <ghb> dwuerz: You typed "acpi=off noacpi", right?
[12:29] <FhaeTon> ASUS A8N-SLI Premium
[12:29] <dwuerz> ghb: yes
[12:29] <ghb> dwuerz: In that order? Dunno if it matters...
[12:30] <dwuerz> no, the other way around
[12:30] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: Ought to be fine, then.
[12:30] <ghb> dwuerz: Try switching them.
[12:30] <dwuerz> I'll try the other way around :) thanks
[12:30] <FhaeTon> ok
[12:30] <FhaeTon> ok then I need help partioning my HDs
[12:31] <vitriol> nobody knows how to set up bluetooth mice/keyboards?
[12:31] <kbrooks> is the ubuntu wiki under a string freeze
[12:31] <dwuerz> ghb: same error :( this is driving me mad
[12:31] <cafuego_> FhaeTon: Just don't be tempted to use the on-mobo raid.
[12:31] <ghb> dwuerz: =(
[12:32] <dwuerz> ghb: thanks anyways
[12:32] <Spudchat> hi everybody
[12:32] <Spudchat> im editing the xorg.conf and was wondering what "metamodes" are
[12:32] <ghb> dwuerz: You're welcome. Sorry for not being able to fix it.
[12:32] <_native_> cafuego, what wireless card are you using? atheros based or prism?
[12:32] <cafuego_> _native_: prism2 (802.11b)
[12:33] <dwuerz> ghb: no problem...I hope someone else can help me here ;) *help plz*
[12:34] <_native_> yeah prism is so good under linux, i bought the AR5112 based netgear before i was informed of the openness of the prism chips
[12:34] <cafuego_> Shit, I'm over quota on my DSL <heh>
[12:34] <cas> Hi, I'm trying to let my orinoco card support scanning. I've installed patched orinoco modules but they aint working. Does anyone got the same problems or fixed this another way?
[12:34] <ghb> When I use the "Battery Charge Monitor" in the panel, it says that my battery is empty, but it's not. How do I fix this?
[12:34] <propagandhi> http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php?id=1997501638&eid=-100
[12:34] <_native_> my atheros sucks sort of.
[12:34] <propagandhi> ghb: i think that requires the acpi
[12:35] <dwuerz> no one an idea how to pass "starting hotplug subsystem" ?
[12:35] <ghb> propagandhi: Hmm... I figured as much...  I think it's built on a MSI system.
[12:36] <demiurge> hmm, it says my kernel was compiled with rivafb support
[12:36] <propagandhi> ghb: hmmm, i dont think i can help unless you can give a better idea on the board specs etc
[12:37] <ghb> propagandhi: I'll see what I can dig up.
[12:37] <dwuerz> ctrl+c isnt doin anything :(
[12:38] <_native_> my card supports a,b,g
[12:38] <_native_> its killer
[12:38] <_native_> :-)
[12:39] <propagandhi> dwuerz: do u have any USB devices plugged in
[12:39] <ghb> propagandhi: I can't find a name or model of the motherboard, but it says that it supports ACPI 1.0b & 2.0
[12:39] <dwuerz> propagandhi: no, nothing but my ethernet cable
[12:39] <nootrope> so, ubuntu is for regular folks, eh? how come i have to go thru i-don't-know-what-permutations to try (unsuccessfully) to get my wifi to conncet. i'm running PowerPC HH on a powerbook. is there a setup app similar to pppoeconf?
[12:39] <propagandhi> ghb: sorry, I can only assume that particular board isnt well supported
[12:40] <ghb> propagandhi: =(
[12:40] <FhaeTon> which Primary network should I use when installing ubuntu? I have 2 choices eth0: nVidia or eth1: Marvell Gigabit ethernet?
[12:40] <demiurge> how does modprobe know where to look for modules?
[12:40] <cas> nootrope: try out "network-manager"
[12:41] <_native_> right on! wifi-radar is COOL. my roaming nightmare has ended
[12:41] <_native_> i love GNU/linux
[12:41] <nootrope> thatks cas
[12:42] <TokenBad> what version of linux is ubuntu made after?
[12:42] <yoink23> !tell yoink23 about javadeb
[12:42] <apokryphos> TokenBad: debian
[12:42] <FhaeTon> I don't want to spam my question
[12:42] <nootrope> cas: it shows the wireless adapter but it has no IP. i can ping my router tho
[12:42] <dwuerz> when i boot single mode it says: "missing kernel[..] "
[12:42] <apokryphos> FhaeTon: good idea ;-)
[12:43] <TokenBad> apokryphos, what I mean is like linux-x86-k6-elf? or freebsd-x86-k6-a.out? stuff like that
[12:43] <FhaeTon> did u see it?
[12:43] <FhaeTon> I shall instead refer everyone to time 17:40
[12:43] <apokryphos> TokenBad: eh? Tweaked/patched Linux kernels; not freebsd
[12:43] <jmg> FhaeTon: choose which one your network cable is plugged in
[12:44] <ghb> propagandhi: This is all I can find: http://www.msicomputer.com/NB/product_spec.asp?model=MS-1012
[12:44] <FhaeTon> hmmm
[12:44] <FhaeTon> but is one better
[12:44] <Spudchat> hi guys
[12:44] <apokryphos> hi
[12:44] <Spudchat> i just edited the xorg conf for tv out
[12:44] <_native_> later gators. ;-]
[12:44] <Spudchat> do i have to enable it somehow?
[12:45] <TokenBad> hmm
[12:45] <TokenBad> cause program will not make on here
[12:45] <apokryphos> what's the error?
[12:46] <Spudchat> oy :( i just installed nvtv and it says no supported video card found
[12:46] <TokenBad> it is x86 right?
[12:46] <TokenBad> meaning for a pc that ran windows
[12:47] <apokryphos> TokenBad: it's x86 if you have x86
[12:47] <demiurge> hey, i figured it out
[12:47] <demiurge> i had to run depmod
[12:47] <apokryphos> TokenBad: there's also ISOs for PPC, x86_64
[12:48] <demiurge> for it to recognize my new kernel modules
[12:48] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have just purchased and installed an AMD 64 bit motherboard and was wondering how the 64bit version of ubuntu handles
[12:48] <apokryphos> dmacdonald111: not bad at all; pacey :)
[12:48] <maddler> dmacdonald111: greatly! :)
[12:48] <TokenBad> apokryphos, its not ubuntu installing..its a "generic" linux program that should work on all versions of linux
[12:48] <TokenBad> and had it work on here before
[12:48] <apokryphos> dmacdonald111: heh, ok, my kdelibs compiled in like ten minutes :)
[12:48] <TokenBad> just trying to remember how
[12:48] <dmacdonald111> really? cool. Do I have to download the whole image and re-install or is there a way to upgrade?
[12:49] <apokryphos> TokenBad: yes... but you were asking about ubuntu. Nevermind, what is the actual error?
[12:49] <apokryphos> dmacdonald111: whole reinstall
[12:49] <dwuerz> :( no one able to help me?
[12:50] <dmacdonald111> cool. Thanks apokryphos. I shall start downloading! :)
[12:50] <TokenBad> well the install says to type make...then pick which version matches your system
[12:50] <TokenBad> but not sure which one matches
[12:50] <apokryphos> TokenBad: could you pastebin all the options?
[12:50] <dwuerz> when i try to run single mode: "missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random
[12:51] <demiurge> all fixed
[12:51] <TokenBad> apokryphos, done
[12:51] <jmg> asrrgh why does my laptop power off
[12:51] <apokryphos> TokenBad: link?
[12:52] <cas> jmg: lid closed?, heating problem?
[12:52] <TokenBad> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2746
[12:52] <svref> gnome volume meter has a [X]  on it.  I have a ISA "vibra 16" soundcard.  How to tell ubuntu this information?
[12:52] <Spudchat> is the pci bus always 7 digits?
[12:53] <dwuerz> am giving up :( no ubuntu for me
[12:53] <mr_unix> Hi guys, I cant get my touchpad to work in Ubuntu
[12:54] <jmg> cas: not lid close... just klaptop suspend even
[12:54] <mr_unix> Does someone know how to change mirror , you know when I want to update my Linux Ubuntu 5.04
[12:54] <apokryphos> TokenBad: not sure what ubuntu uses; I'd guess it uses ELF binaries (they're pretty common these days on Linux), but not sure. So, either 1st or 4th I'd guess
[12:54] <JDigital> Hey guys, I'm burning a DVD with growisofs, but it's like
[12:54] <JDigital> :-( unable to open64("/dev/dvd",O_RDONLY): No such file or directory
[12:55] <cas> mr_unix: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list put your country code in front every url
[12:55] <JDigital> How come the system's not seeing my DVD drive?
[12:55] <propagandhi> dwuerz: you wuitter
[12:55] <mr_unix> If someine like to help me tomorrow with my Ubuntu 5.04 please add my msn >><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:56] <none_-> JDigital, /dev/dvd is a link to the real device
[12:56] <propagandhi> quitter
[12:56] <none_-> dmesg|grep DVD
[12:56] <cas> mr_unix, like deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/
[12:56] <none_-> should output the real device
[12:56] <Spudchat> grrrrrrrrrrr why cant i get video out ! :(
[12:56] <JDigital> hda: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[12:56] <JDigital> hda: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[12:56] <jmg> cas: i see this error: Oct  4 11:42:20 localhost kernel: [4295957.239000]  mtrr: base(0xd8020000) is not
[12:56] <jmg>  aligned on a size(0x300000) boundary
[12:56] <none_-> so hda is what you are looking for
[12:56] <JDigital> How can it be hda
[12:56] <jmg> and then it shuts down
[12:56] <JDigital> hda is normally a hard drive
[12:57] <none_-> JDigital, you are booting from CD-ROM
[12:57] <jmg> cas: the thing is my session resumes completely before it shuts down
[12:57] <JDigital> But I'm not using a LiveCD.
[12:57] <virgule> the jumpers
[12:57] <none_-> it doesn't matter
[12:57] <none_-> check the BIOS
[12:57] <JDigital> Ohh.
[12:57] <dwuerz> propagandhi: wuitter? quitter? ... you got any hints for me...I really want to get it work
[12:57] <JDigital> Yeah, I think I have it boot to CD first.
[12:57] <TokenBad> apokryphos, think the first one worked
[12:57] <TokenBad> thanks
[12:57] <dwuerz> I think its usb...but dont know how to disable it
[12:57] <none_-> there's your problem
[12:58] <none_-> it tends to be either hdb or hdc
[12:58] <none_-> try either of those next time you are doing whatever
[12:58] <dwuerz> propagandhi: am just desperate as its not even booting once :(
[12:58] <jmg> cas: also when i reboot it doesnt properly reboot
[12:59] <JDigital> Aha. I have /dev/hda in my fstab as /media/cdrom0
[12:59] <cas> jmg, Sorry, I really can't say what is wrong. Sounds seriously. Maybe you should report a bug
[01:00] <propagandhi> dwuerz: sorry i am back. you get a grub menu is that correct?
[01:00] <dwuerz> yes...perfectly correct...
[01:00] <dwuerz> ...but after that...errors :(
[01:00] <JDigital> I wonder why /dev/dvd worked earlier
[01:01] <vitriol> 0 is false and 1 is true right?
[01:01] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:01] <vitriol> HIDD_ENABLED=0
[01:01] <virgule> jmg: do you recall setting up any kind of 'shutdown after n minutes' either in Ubuntu or Windows? Im thinking it might be a residual parameter.. but I only know that much. Try to diseable these functions in both Ubuntu and Windows.
[01:01] <vitriol> false?
[01:01] <ghb> I might have solved my ACPI problem on my laptop -- I updated the BIOS. ^^
[01:01] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:01] <dwuerz> nolapic noapic acpi=off ... nothing helps :(
[01:01] <virgule> mind the typos
[01:01] <jmg> ghb: hmm i should do that
[01:01] <JDigital> vitriol: 1
[01:01] <ghb> dwuerz: Still having troubles with the ACPI? =(
[01:01] <vitriol> jokes aren't very helpful....
[01:02] <dwuerz> ghb: yes...i think but am not even sure...
[01:02] <dwuerz> its just not booting
[01:02] <propagandhi> dwuerz: whats the exact error again
[01:02] <ghb> AWESOME! ACPI is currently activated on my laptop! I recommend a BIOS update if you have problems with Ubuntu on your laptop!
[01:02] <vitriol> ghb: what laptop?
[01:03] <dwuerz> ghb: i'll give it a try
[01:03] <JDigital> Maybe I have to mount /dev/dvd manually
[01:03] <virgule> ACPI bugged us down with a Toshiba
[01:03] <ghb> vitriol: It's a MSI S260 (or also called 1012)
[01:03] <virgule> I'll notice him
[01:03] <chrisbudden14> Anyone had any sucess using ati propriotry drivers and hibernation in breezy
[01:03] <vitriol> ghb: were you having trouble with your clock running fast?
[01:03] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[01:03] <ghb> vitriol: Umm, no, not that I'm aware of...
[01:03] <vitriol> ghb: if that was the problem, to know for sure if it worked you can do 'time sleep 10'
[01:03] <vitriol> ghb: my clock was running fast ;)
[01:03] <enajeirak> hello, anyone know if you can use icq on ubuntu??
[01:04] <vitriol> 1 second == 2
[01:04] <virgule> enajeirak: gaim
[01:04] <dooglus> enajeirak: you can use gaim, which works with ICQ
[01:04] <enajeirak> i tried, and it wouldnt log me in
[01:04] <dooglus> enajeirak: you have to be able to remember your password
[01:04] <enajeirak> i logged into aim that way ,, i do remember it
[01:05] <ghb> vitriol: What are the symptoms that I have clock running fast...?
[01:05] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:05] <jmg> virgule: im having problems on my A10 with it
[01:05] <vitriol> ghb: if it was running fast you'd see 'losing ticks' in dmesg
[01:06] <vitriol> ghb: also, if you did 'time sleep 10' and it went by in 5 seconds....
[01:06] <HrdwrBob> jmg: A10? a large anti tank aircraft?
[01:06] <ghb> vitriol: Hmm... What's "dmesg"?
[01:06] <vitriol> ghb: also, your clock would be off....it'd be in the future
[01:06] <jmg> HrdwrBob: i wish. Satellite A10
[01:06] <vitriol> ghb: go to a command prompt and type 'dmesg'
[01:06] <vitriol> dmesg (8)            - print or control the kernel ring buffer
[01:06] <ghb> vitriol: Righto.
[01:06] <jmg> HrdwrBob: i'd definately post to testimonials if i got ubuntu running on my warthog.
[01:06] <vitriol> it gives you information about system messages and stuff....
[01:06] <jmg> HrdwrBob: Actually, i should rename my laptop.
[01:06] <ghb> Damn, it's getting late... But this is so much fun! X
[01:06] <ghb> Xd
[01:06] <ghb> XD
[01:07] <ghb> jmg: My laptop is named Slimjim. =)
[01:07] <jmg> ghb: Our database server is slimjim
[01:07] <ghb> jmg: Cool. =D
[01:07] <ghb> vitriol: What am I looking at...?
[01:07] <dell500> how do i find out what my ip is?
[01:07] <dell500> in console
[01:07] <ghb> dell500: Do a "ifconfig"
[01:07] <HrdwrBob> jmg: ahh nice :)
[01:08] <virgule> broadband ?
[01:08] <dwuerz> www.myipaddress.com
[01:08] <virgule> I used to use this line as a #!/bin/bash file -- it work just right
[01:08] <dell500> i just used the Image Server thing on the ubuntu guide, how do i get these pictures on the net?
[01:08] <virgule> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr' | sed -e 's/.*r://' | sed -e 's/ B.*//'
[01:09] <ghb> virgule: Well... I guess that's one solution... ^^
[01:09] <FhaeTon> Hello I need help partioning
[01:09] <ghb> I think I'll call it a day... Good night, everybody. And thanks for the help!
[01:10] <sn0n> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/     is there a more.. bleeding edge release then that..
[01:10] <ghb> dwuerz: Good luck with your installation.
[01:10] <virgule> I though setting up an alias instead but I went this way so I could add some #comments to make things look good
[01:10] <dwuerz> ghb: thanks
[01:10] <sn0n> i'd rather download a 'current to the day' one.. so i dont have to hassle with more updates
[01:10] <Rylie> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:11] <nalioth> sn0n: is this smokin hot enough for ya  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[01:11] <sn0n> thnx
[01:11] <sn0n> perfect :-D
[01:11] <org__> O WELL.
[01:12] <FhaeTon> ok does anyone know how 2 Hard drives are supposed to be partitioned if your gonna use software raid0?
[01:12] <mwright1nigh1> /whois sabdfl
[01:13] <apokryphos> mwright1nigh1: Mr. Shuttleworth :P
[01:13] <JustSteve> FhaeTon ,drives have to be equal size. when i did it i didn't partion them at all
[01:13] <FhaeTon> the drives are the same
[01:14] <FhaeTon> but my understanding is one must use 3 partitions on each drive?
[01:14] <dell500> is it possible to use just my ip address for the localhost/gallery/ on my computer?
[01:14] <nalioth> dell500: just use localhost://
[01:14] <JustSteve> i'm not sure about software raid in *nix, i did it in Windows with the nvidia driver
[01:14] <Grid_block> Hey is there any Mouse skinning device for ubuntu?
[01:15] <dell500> well i wanna publish it on the net
[01:15] <dell500> like give it out as a link
[01:15] <propagandhi> Grid_block: do you mean mouse cursor/pointer themes
[01:15] <nalioth> dell500: then yes
[01:15] <dell500> well i'm behind a router
[01:15] <dell500> can i get around that somehow?
[01:15] <Grid_block> propagandhi, yes like Cursorxp just for linux
[01:16] <propagandhi> dell500: set port forwarding on the router to your local IP
[01:16] <propagandhi> Grid_block: theres cursor themes on http://www.kde-look.org, they also show you how to install
[01:16] <dell500> how do i find out what port it is?
[01:16] <propagandhi> port 80
[01:16] <jmg> no bios update for my box :(
[01:16] <propagandhi> if thats what your webserver is running on
[01:17] <UltrA> anybody have a question? i'm willing to help
[01:17] <Someguy_> I am trying to enable WPA so I can connect to my wireless network but I only find WEP
[01:17] <Grid_block> propagandhi, well i only got gnome.. will it work?
[01:17] <pie> anybody in for someone new..?
[01:17] <virgule> What is the answer to the Great Question?
[01:17] <Maus> UltrA: I have one
[01:17] <JustSteve> 42
[01:17] <apokryphos> virgule: 42
[01:17] <virgule> !!
[01:17] <ubotu> [!]  what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[01:17] <apokryphos> speedy :O
[01:17] <UltrA> Maus: go ahead
[01:18] <nootrope> cas rules!
[01:18] <Maus> UltrA: When I updated just a few minutes ago, I got an error stating that dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[01:18] <dwuerz> am having the newest version of the bios :(
[01:18] <UltrA> I had the same erro
[01:18] <dell500> how do i use a certain directory for my photos? or do i have to transfer it to a certain folder?
[01:18] <UltrA> Maus:I had the same error
[01:18] <pie> Hola amigos!
[01:18] <Maus> UltrA: and that is because mozilla-firefox is not yet configured
[01:19] <propagandhi> Grid_block: sorry I assume too much
[01:19] <UltrA> Maus: You probably also have the firefox package
[01:19] <propagandhi> perhaps http://art.gnome.org?
[01:19] <Maus> UltrA: So what went wrong, and how do I fix it.
[01:19] <Maus> UltrA: Yes, I do.
[01:19] <UltrA> Maus: remove one or the other mozila-firefox or firefox, they conflict
[01:19] <propagandhi> can anyone help me with airsnort
[01:19] <Someguy_> So, can anyone assist me to find out how to enable WPA on my laptop?
[01:20] <jmg> hmmm
[01:20] <pie> ...help...!
[01:20] <uruguaian> HELLO
[01:20] <Maus> UltrA:  Wait, no.  Firefox is not installed, just mozilla-firefox
[01:20] <jmg> klaptop is clobbering my suspend configuration
[01:20] <UltrA> Maus: what error do you get
[01:20] <Doonz> hey hows the 64 bit support in ubuntu ?
[01:20] <apokryphos> pretty good
[01:21] <org__> 64 bit as in memory cash?
[01:21] <uruguaian> i've the ubuntu 5.04 CD.. and checking the site 5.10 is the next version?
[01:21] <UltrA> Maus: try installing mozilla-firefox-gnome-support yourself maybe you'd get a more descript error
[01:21] <Doonz> 64bit as in cpu
[01:21] <apokryphos> org__: no, as in the CPU architecture ;-)
[01:21] <JDigital> Yeah. out in a tenday
[01:21] <JustSteve> 64bit OS support is fine, just not a ton of apps
[01:21] <org__> i see
[01:21] <org__> how do i check what is my cpu?
[01:21] <shivi> has anybody been able to view dvds in breezy?how?
[01:21] <Doonz> ok thats what i thought
[01:21] <Maus> UltrA: dphg: error processing mozilla-firefox (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:22] <Kilter> is there a good howto for ubuntu + samba PDC?
[01:22] <pie> Is there some-one out there, who can explane me how to install plug-inss? (to day is my first day with UBUNTU...)
[01:22] <UltrA> Maus: what's the line before that?
[01:22] <apokryphos> totally_noob: uname -a
[01:22] <UltrA> Maus: dpkg probably spit it out
[01:22] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok then
[01:22] <bimberi> Someguy_: there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto - although it's not one of the better wiki pages :|
[01:22] <totally_noob> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:22] <totally_noob> so
[01:23] <Maus> UltrA: Updating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions/installed-extensions.txt': Operation not permitted
[01:23] <Someguy_> bimberi, thank you, checking it now :-)
[01:23] <UltrA> Maus: do you have firefox open right now?
[01:23] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[01:23] <Maus> UltrA: I can't open it
[01:23] <UltrA> Maus: and did you use sudo?
[01:23] <aven> hi
[01:24] <aven> um, doesn't ubuntu come with 'make'?
[01:24] <Maus> UltrA: I used Synaptic
[01:24] <satafterh> I have a question, i install breezy bata, if i just keep updating it as updates are available will i need to install the final release when it comes out or will the updates give me the same thing??
[01:24] <apokryphos> totally_noob: there you have it -- i686: 32-bit
[01:24] <UltrA> Maus: try it from the command line
[01:25] <dwuerz> plz help! anyone! still cant get past hotplug subsystem :(
[01:25] <totally_noob> apokryphos, 32-bit and ubuntu is working great!
[01:25] <UltrA> Maus: also try running sudo killall firefox-bin before it
[01:25] <totally_noob> apokryphos, so why you asking for 64-bit?
[01:25] <esac> has anybody noticed that after last nights update they are missing the trash icon ?
[01:25] <Maus> UltrA: ok
[01:25] <aven> so. anyone know if ubuntu comes with 'make'?
[01:25] <apokryphos> totally_noob: well, 32-bit is of course the runaway most-widely used; 64-bit is reasonably new
[01:25] <pie> Oke guis..., I need a littlle more time for all of this...., goodnight!
[01:25] <bimberi> aven: make isn't installed by default but it's available in the repositories (i'm not sure if its on the CD)
[01:25] <esac> aven: yes, it comes with make
[01:25] <aven> how do I install it? :\
[01:25] <apokryphos> aven: you need build-essential package (comes with the CD) to do any real compiling
[01:25] <JustSteve> aven apt-get build-esseintials
[01:25] <bimberi> aven: install build-essential
[01:25] <totally_noob> apokryphos, I see.
[01:26] <esac> aven: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:26] <JustSteve> or however it's spelt
[01:26] <Maus> UltrA: No processes killed
[01:26] <apokryphos> hi bimberi; how've you been? :)
[01:26] <Maus> UltrA: Try what, exactly?
[01:26] <aven> ok, it's installed
[01:26] <jcsteele> hello all, i am trying to mount an external ide->usb ide hard drive, which is an openbsd ffs partition/slice....is ubuntu capable of mounting this type of partition./slive ?
[01:26] <aven> but it's still not working :\
[01:26] <aven> do I have to reboot?
[01:26] <apokryphos> aven: no. What's the error?
[01:27] <ompaul> there is no s on the end of build-essential
[01:27] <bimberi> hi apokryphos good thanks, we've had a long weekend over 'ere :)
[01:27] <esac> no you should never have to reboot except for a new kernel
[01:27] <aven> "target not specified and make not found"
[01:27] <apokryphos> bimberi: oh?
[01:27] <totally_noob> mget is really slow.
[01:27] <bimberi> apokryphos: monday was a public holiday in parts of oz
[01:27] <apokryphos> aven: err, what are you trying to compile? Mind you, I'd be surprised if you really did install it that quick
[01:27] <apokryphos> ah
[01:27] <aven> unrealircd, an ircd software
[01:27] <apokryphos> bimberi: started Uni, so -- suffice it to say -- it's been a crazy week :)
[01:28] <vengeful> unreal sucks ;-)
[01:28] <aven> well, what are good ircd software?
[01:28] <Kilter> can anyone help with samba on ubuntu?  there isn't a lot of response in #samba
[01:28] <UltrA> Maus: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:28] <vengeful> ultimateircd
[01:28] <UltrA> Maus: or sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-gnome-support if that fails
[01:28] <apokryphos> !tell Kilter about samba
[01:28] <aven> but, the network I'm linked to uses unrealircd
[01:29] <aven> would they work together?
[01:29] <vengeful> ah sorry to hear that
[01:29] <vengeful> nope
[01:29] <aven> :\
[01:29] <ompaul> aven, to not have all that work to do, choose to execute the following command >> apt-cache search ircd << and then choose something from there
[01:29] <UltrA> Maus: also did you follow the ubuntu guide
[01:29] <Plebeuz> shut up just shut up
[01:29] <bimberi> apokryphos: oh yes, i have a fading memory of when i started uni, crazy it was :)
[01:29] <dell500> is there a place I should put the photos if i'm going to serve them?
[01:29] <esac> does anybody use gmailfs which comes with ubuntu ?
[01:29] <Kilter> apokryphos: the problem specifically is in connecting a windows client to the domain I created.  I just don't know where the problem is or how to track it down
[01:29] <Maus> UltrA: It was just a routine update, like I had done many times before.
[01:29] <apokryphos> bimberi: Average sleep has been max 4 hours :P; amazing time, but intensive!
[01:30] <UltrA> Maus: did it run sucessfully?
[01:30] <bimberi> apokryphos: haha
[01:30] <ompaul> Plebeuz, to whom was that addressed, and why?
[01:30] <totally_noob> FOR GODS SAKE.
[01:30] <apokryphos> totally_noob: please don't shout
[01:30] <Maus> UltrA: Everything today has returned that error that I told you about.
[01:30] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok sir
[01:30] <aven> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[01:30] <aven> =\
[01:30] <apokryphos> aven: if you don't know how to compile...
[01:31] <thechitowncubs> does the GUI for sharing folders even work?
[01:31] <aven> I do and I'm supposed to type "make"
[01:31] <apokryphos> then, well, kinda wonderin' what you're doing :P
[01:31] <thechitowncubs> because i can't seem to get it to work
[01:31] <Plebeuz> stop to talking baby
[01:31] <dwuerz> ok, i finally give up and never touch that ubuntu crap again :( - thx for those who were trying to help
[01:31] <apokryphos> aven: chances are you're meant to configure first
[01:31] <apokryphos> aven: is there an INSTALL file?
[01:31] <svref> breezy seems to have lots of fonts for languages I've never even heard of.  They take FOREVER to d/l and configure.  Is there some easy way to tell it: "dude, I don't live in Africa.  Latin-1 will be fine."
[01:31] <aven> apokryphos, nope
[01:31] <totally_noob> apokryphos, what is your instant messaging program?
[01:31] <thechitowncubs> What is the best way to share files between ubuntu computers?
[01:31] <apokryphos> totally_noob: KVirc
[01:32] <UltrA> Maus: the problem is that file permission
[01:32] <sambagirl> +
[01:32] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: ssh?
[01:32] <totally_noob> apokryphos, and what is your best irc client?
[01:32] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: or fish
[01:32] <apokryphos> totally_noob: ...KVirc
[01:32] <linked> Hi, sorry if it's documented elsewhere, but is there an easy way to specify which output device ubuntu should use? I can't get any system sounds, and I think it's defaulting to motherboard sound
[01:32] <totally_noob> apokryphos, you can use irc + msn together with KVirc???
[01:32] <apokryphos> totally_noob: IRC is technically IM :)
[01:32] <thechitowncubs> apokryphos: can i have amarok import from those protocols?
[01:32] <ompaul> !tell linked about audio
[01:32] <thechitowncubs> or can i browse them with nautilus?
[01:32] <Plebeuz> anyone know a nice font tu use with some matrix wallpaper?
[01:32] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: import what? Files?
[01:32] <sexcopter8000m> linked, you may be able to disable onboard sound in the bios
[01:32] <thechitowncubs> music
[01:32] <Maus> UltrA: Which one?
[01:32] <ompaul> !tell linked about sound
[01:33] <oxez> just realisez I had linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-4-363. and my current kernel is 2.6.12-9-686, is it safe to remove the linux-restricted-modules package?
[01:33] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok, do you have screenshots of it? cuz im bored with gaim
[01:33] <thechitowncubs> !sound
[01:33] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[01:33] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: hm, I'd sure assume so, though I haven't tried. Try it with fish (though, not sure if GNOME has something like that)
[01:33] <svref> thechitowncubs: I'm new to ubuntu, but in every linux I've used, creating nfs drives is as simple as editing /etc/exports on server and /etc/fstab on client
[01:33] <ompaul> linked, there is the documentation you need :)
[01:33] <UltrA> Maus: put the entire out put into the pastebin
[01:33] <EggMan> !tell eggman about aound
[01:33] <apokryphos> totally_noob: it's ugly
[01:33] <linked> ompaul, thanks!
[01:33] <vengeful> totally_noob, i like kopete
[01:33] <EggMan> !tell eggman about sound
[01:33] <totally_noob> apokryphos, i want to see screenshots for urs
[01:33] <thechitowncubs> svref: i've heard about NFS but I never knew how to work it
[01:33] <ompaul> linked, np
[01:33] <totally_noob> kopete and amsn and gaim sucks
[01:33] <linked> sexcopter8000m, That'd probably work, but I'd like to keep it disabled for when I boot my other OSs
[01:33] <dell500> how do i host a simple server for pictures?
[01:33] <UltrA> Maus: i've got to go now... Hope you get it soon
[01:33] <svref> "man exports"
[01:33] <apokryphos> totally_noob: Kopete is the best for conventional IM, but I like KVirc for IRC. You can find screenies with Google =)
[01:34] <Maus> UltrA: ok, thanks
[01:34] <sexcopter8000m> linked, any good reason? if you have another sound device which is better...
[01:34] <apokryphos> dell500: get a shared hosting account, a gallery script, and voila!
[01:34] <linked> sexcopter8000m, multiple sets of speakers used for different things- it's a workstation, media player and game machine wrapped into one, and the speakers are located as such
[01:34] <apokryphos> dell500: the most customizable (and my run-away-favourite) is WSN gallery script =)
[01:34] <totally_noob> apokryphos, i'm blocked from google
[01:34] <totally_noob> apokryphos, anyways thanks
[01:35] <apokryphos> err, how exactly?
[01:35] <sexcopter8000m> linked, blimey... forget that solution then
[01:35] <apokryphos> totally_noob: Nevermind though; there's hundreds of search engines out there
[01:35] <thechitowncubs> Is samba meant for ubuntu -> ubuntu transmissions?
[01:35] <sexcopter8000m> linked, sorry i'm not pro enough at fixing linux problems :)
[01:35] <linked> sexcopter8000m, it's fine =)
[01:36] <aven> ....
[01:36] <aven> the make command for ubuntu is 'make', right?
[01:36] <aven> it's not working.. *sigh*
[01:36] <thechitowncubs> aven
[01:36] <Maus> Anyone else having a problem with mozilla-firefox post-update?
[01:36] <jason056> i installed fedora core 4 and now i cant boot ubuntu!
[01:36] <thechitowncubs> aven: what are you trying to make
[01:36] <jason056> can someone help?
[01:36] <aven> the unrealircd
[01:36] <thechitowncubs> jason056: yes
[01:36] <totally_noob> apokryphos, ok sir.
[01:36] <aven> Now all you have to do is type 'make' and let it compile. When that's |
[01:36] <aven> | done, you will receive other instructions on what to do next.
[01:36] <totally_noob> apokryphos, have you ever tried irssi?
[01:36] <linked> ompaul, that documentation works dandy for getting another sound card installed, but i've got it showing up in the mixer already- i need to set it as KDE's default
[01:37] <aven> I type make and it doesn't work..
[01:37] <jason056> how do i fix it?
[01:37] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: erm, ignore me... if you have amaroK if you of course don't need to be running KDE -- try using fish:// -- see if it works.
[01:37] <apokryphos> totally_noob: many-a-time, yes
[01:37] <aven> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[01:37] <thechitowncubs> jason056: you need to edit you /boot/grub/menu.lst and add ubuntu in again
[01:37] <totally_noob> apokryphos, and you still prefer KVirc :/
[01:37] <sorush20> my monitor keeps on flashing on an off.. I don know that I keep getting errors with adding the ati driver, when kernel is calculating the module dependencies.. but I have not been able to resolve the problem, can somone help please.?
[01:37] <jason056> is there a way to find which partition its in?
[01:37] <apokryphos> aven: the INSTALL file says nothing of configuring?
[01:37] <thechitowncubs> jason056: yes
[01:37] <jason056> how
[01:38] <apokryphos> aven: if you're *sure* you're meant to do a make *without* a  configure (rare), then you must be in the wrong directory in your terminal
[01:38] <thechitowncubs> jason056: gparted is the easiest way through a GUI, im trying to find an easy terminal command
[01:38] <jason056> thanks man
[01:38] <jason056> ugh...fedora core 4 doesn't have gparted
[01:38] <apokryphos> jason056: qtparted?
[01:39] <Trashcan> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-rcp-common_3.1-10ubuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.rcp_3.1.0/epl-v10.html', which is also in package eclipse-rcp
[01:39] <Trashcan> :(
[01:39] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell jason056 about grub
[01:39] <Trashcan> happens on th updates ubuntu says i need to install
[01:39] <aven> apokryphos, so you're saying it should be like a "make /Config" or something?
[01:39] <sorush20> extension update on firefox in ubuntu is not working is anyone else haveing the same problem here.?
[01:40] <apokryphos> Trashcan: do a force overwrite
[01:40] <Trashcan> can I set that from the updater?
[01:40] <Trashcan> or shall I apt-get it
[01:40] <apokryphos> aven: no... could you pastebin the INSTALL file?
[01:40] <svref> My machine has crashed during a synaptic upgrade of 431 packages, currently configuring 'ttf-oriya-fonts'.  If I reboot will the machine be melted?
[01:40] <jcarr> ubuntu has made me MAD!
[01:40] <oxez> Hm, when I try to launch GParted, the windows opens, and then closes with a seg fault... any ideas? I looked in the forums + google and found zero.
[01:40] <ompaul> linked, what kind of sound card is it?
[01:40] <aven> it didn't have any "INSTALL" file o.O
[01:41] <virgule> sound funky
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> jason056:
[01:41] <jcarr> after awhile, all programs, ALL PROGRAMS... they act up! They freeze up! They hang! I try to kill offensive processes, but behavior remains
[01:41] <linked> ompaul, i'm running an SB Extigy and the motherboard has nForce 2
[01:41] <jcarr> WHY!?
[01:41] <apokryphos> Trashcan: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-rcp-common_3.1-10ubuntu1_all.deb
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> jason056: fdisk /dev/hda
[01:41] <chrisbudden14> has anyone been able to hibernate breezy and resume with ati binary installed
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> type that in a root terminal
[01:41] <Trashcan> rgr apokryphos
[01:41] <Trashcan> thanks
[01:41] <jcarr> WHY must I reboot all the time to fix this as if it was windows
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> then type p
[01:41] <MikeStyle> hey guys, i just upgraded to breezy and i restarted and my display manager isnt working, so i typed startx and it told me it couldnt find the command startx
[01:41] <apokryphos> aven: what does it have?
[01:41] <thechitowncubs> that should give you a list of your hard drive information
[01:41] <ompaul> linked, you have to turn off the mobo one in the bios for the other one to have a chance
[01:41] <linked> ompaul, I've got an external sound device plugged in to line in- KMix properly mutes and controlls the levels for it, so I know it's detected and working
[01:41] <svref> jcarr: maybe you have fritzy hardware
[01:42] <linked> ompaul, =/ ok, thanks... was hoping to avoid that, but oh well
[01:42] <jcarr> svref, unlikely... other distros havent done this
[01:42] <jcarr> I still dual boot to windows too
[01:42] <jcarr> no issues
[01:42] <jason056> bash: fdisk: command not found
[01:42] <jason056> ugh
[01:42] <jason056> i wish i wasnt such a noob
[01:42] <jcarr> (suprisingly enough)
[01:43] <bimberi> jason056: are you in a root shell?
[01:43] <jason056> i did the su - thing
[01:43] <jason056> and now
[01:43] <aven> apokryphos, http://unrealircd.com/?page=downloads
[01:43] <ompaul> jason056, Do NOT run fsck on a mounted system
[01:43] <apokryphos> jason056: shouldn't be using su...
[01:43] <aven> those are the files
[01:43] <apokryphos> jason056: sudo fdisk -l (you probably want(
[01:43] <jason056> [root@localhost ~] # fdisk /dev/hda
[01:43] <jason056> Unable to open /dev/hda
[01:44] <jmg> guys i am still having probs here
[01:44] <jason056> im using su because im on fedora
[01:44] <jcarr> Plebeuz, yez! BITCHX r0x3rz j00 b0x3rz!
[01:44] <thechitowncubs> jason056: you need to be a a root terminal
[01:44] <lingoist> hello...any chance o boot ubuntu in command line mode?
[01:44] <jason056> root terminal?
[01:44] <virgule> jmg: the laptop keep acting?
[01:44] <xtech> puto
[01:44] <Plebeuz> outo eh tu
[01:44] <Plebeuz> puto eh tu
[01:44] <bz0b> did they extend official release date?
[01:45] <bimberi> jason056: does "fdisk -l" show anything meaningful?
[01:45] <ompaul> bz0b, it is still the 13th Oct
[01:45] <bz0b> oh
[01:45] <bz0b> i thought it was due for the fourth
[01:46] <ompaul> bz0b, the 6th is preview day iirc
[01:46] <jason056> [root@localhost ~] # fdisk -1
[01:46] <jason056> fdisk: invalid option -- 1
[01:46] <jason056> Usage: fdisk [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK     Change partition table
[01:46] <jason056>        fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK  List partition table(s)
[01:46] <jason056>        fdisk -s PARTITION           Give partition size(s) in blocks
[01:46] <jason056>        fdisk -v                     Give fdisk version
[01:46] <jason056> Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
[01:46] <lingoist> no parameter for command line?
[01:46] <jason056> and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
[01:46] <jason056> -u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units
[01:46] <jason056> -b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors
[01:46] <jason056> [root@localhost ~] #  fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK
[01:46] <ompaul> jason056, DONT PASTE IN HERE
[01:46] <_jason> jason056:  stop
[01:46] <jason056> Cannot open [-b
[01:46] <thechitowncubs> do not pate
[01:46] <Trashcan> ack!
[01:46] <jason056> Cannot open SSZ]
[01:46] <bz0b> stop jason056
[01:46] <Trashcan> thanks
[01:46] <Trashcan> brilliant..
[01:46] <virgule> oh yeah
[01:46] <virgule> dramatic
[01:47] <bimberi> jason056: fdisk -l (as in lower case L).  Oh and did anyone tell you not to paste in here :P
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> bimberi: its fisk /dev/hda -l
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> fdisk*
[01:47] <bz0b> that noob
[01:47] <bz0b> hehe :-)
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> lol
[01:47] <GhostFreeman> what directory is the Trashcan located in?
[01:47] <apokryphos> xtech: keep the language clean in here please
[01:48] <_chavo> well, now there's twice as many lines of you guys  complaining asthre
[01:48] <_chavo> in hi paste
[01:48] <bimberi> thechitowncubs: both work for me - but that might be because my / is on /dev/hda
[01:48] <lingoist> I would be happy if anyone could give me a simple yes or no ;)
[01:48] <Trashcan> question
[01:48] <Trashcan> ?
[01:49] <lingoist> can i boot ubuntu in command line ?
[01:49] <lingoist> :)
[01:49] <ompaul> lingoist, yes
[01:49] <Trashcan> install bad drivers ;)
[01:49] <VoX> heh
[01:49] <Trashcan> worked fine for me!
[01:49] <lingoist> ompaul: great :)
[01:49] <umberleigh> hey. i've just setup firestarter, and i'm getting all these blocked outbound connections on random ports when running azureus. how can i let azureus connect to peers without having to open a ton of outbound ports?
[01:49] <lingoist> ompaul: how :)
[01:50] <ompaul> lingoist, question is have you installed a desktop? or is this a new machine?
[01:50] <lingoist> ompaul: new...cant get it run
[01:50] <delltony> hi all the tutorials and all i have found show how to dual boot with windows xp installed first then ubuntu? is there not a howto to do it ubuntu then windowsxp cause honestly i would hate to purge my configuration of linux just so i can dual boot winblows
[01:50] <ompaul> lingoist, okay start the install, on the first thing you come to type server
[01:50] <ompaul> lingoist, it will install cli version
[01:51] <lingoist> ompaul: thank you very much!
[01:51] <apokryphos> delltony: /msg ubotu grub
[01:51] <jcarr> godammit
[01:51] <ompaul> lingoist, sudo apt-get install (password is your own)  irssi and join us here then :)
[01:51] <jcarr> mark my words ubuntu, I WILL MAKE YOU PAY!
[01:51] <apokryphos> jcarr: please stop being annoying
[01:51] <delltony> jcarr whats wrong man didn't get laid this week? geeze
[01:51] <lingoist> ompaul: thx! see you in a few mins :)
[01:52] <EggMan> !grub
[01:52] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:52] <ompaul> jcarr, shutup or define a problem you can be helped with, as it is I consider you to be trolling
[01:52] <delltony> thanks hopefully that will help me
[01:53] <Kilter> is there anyone with experience setting an ubuntu samba server up as a pdc?  I don't need the ldap configuration (for now).
[01:53] <FatherTyme> Anyone try Ubuntu on an Alienware Area-51m yet?
[01:53] <Kilter> FatherTyme: yes, we did it in my old office
[01:53] <Kilter> worked like a charm
[01:54] <FatherTyme> sonuva.
[01:54] <FatherTyme> :(
[01:54] <Kilter> the grey ones with the wide screen and the colour changing alien eyes, cool looking units
[01:54] <umberleigh> hey. i've just setup firestarter, and i'm getting all these blocked outbound connections on random ports when running azureus. how can i let azureus connect to peers without having to open a ton of outbound ports?
[01:54] <dooglus> I'm having problems with movie subtitles.  mplayer won't show czech characters, and totem-xine will, but only in a small font.  can someone help with either problem please?
[01:55] <tim-yada-112> Howdy room!
[01:55] <kevogod> Is the Firefox 1.07 in Hoary actually 1.07 or is it simply a version increment for extensions?
[01:55] <Prower> Is breezy still considered to be an unstable install, or could one upgrade to it now before it's officially released? :>
[01:55] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[01:55] <vengeful> hiiiiiii
[01:56] <HrdwrBob> Prower: it's mostly stabilised
[01:56] <delltony> sorry to repeat but that information i got on ubotu is basically what i have seen the first link just tells me what grub is the second link tells me how to go windows first then ubuntu is there not a way to go ubuntu first then windows. or am i missing something
[01:56] <HrdwrBob> Prower: however you may have a few issues
[01:56] <ompaul> umberleigh, well you fire up a firewall and then say I don't want it running - hmm - maybe remove the rules - bottom line those rules are only there to protect services and ubuntu does not run services you do not install
[01:56] <Kilter> delltony: it means install windows first, then install ubuntu.  it will automagically work that way
[01:56] <tim-yada-112> I'm looking for some answers as I slide into the Linux waters...
[01:56] <Spudchat> does anyone know about video out on a nvidia geforce 6800 go? its sooo close to workin...when i boot up it says starting tvout server but i dont have any gui
[01:57] <hondje> Is your TV on, Spudchat?
[01:57] <apokryphos> delltony: you apparently didn't read the factoid
[01:57] <Prower> HrdwrBob: Hmm...I guess I'd better wait anyway, then
[01:57] <MasterSheep> Alllrighty... Hi guys. I just need a quick question answered as I try to install Ubuntu
[01:57] <bimberi> delltony: the second link tells you how to can reinstall grub if, for some reason, you have to install windows second
[01:57] <ompaul> dell500,  or leave that other operating system off the machine and get on with your life no more pain of that sort anyway :)
[01:57] <Spudchat> yeah
[01:57] <hondje> Then I dunno :)
[01:57] <Spudchat> ohhh i c i only get one or the other eheh
[01:57] <apokryphos> delltony: RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows (wiki article)
[01:57] <ernstp> So, uh, I removed the /var/cache/apt/archives/partial and now apt wont run
[01:57] <_chavo> delltony, if you've already installed linux and need to install Windows it's not hard to reinstall grub, with the install CD
[01:58] <Spudchat> is that the way it works?
[01:58] <ompaul> ernstp, does >sudo apt-get update< work ?
[01:58] <delltony> ok i'm guessin thats what that article explains let me go read some more cause i obvisouly missed something
[01:58] <Spudchat> either i get picture on my laptop or picture on the tv?
[01:58] <ernstp> ompaul, nope!
[01:58] <MasterSheep> Right... so out of sheer curiosity: Is anyone running Ubuntu (or trying to run Ubuntu) on a PPC?
[01:58] <Samhain> has anyone here successfully gotten any video capture programs working? If so, which ones?
[01:58] <ernstp> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[01:58] <Seveas> ernstp, what did you do?
[01:58] <FhaeTon> someone please help me please
[01:58] <propagandhi> ernstp: mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[01:59] <ernstp> rm -r /var/cache/apt/archives/* :-)
[01:59] <delltony> yeah sorry this is what i wanted i appologize for the repeat
[01:59] <cafuego_> 'sudo apt-get clean'
[01:59] <apokryphos> ernstp: so re-create it
[01:59] <ernstp> propagandhi, ah, it's a a dir!
[01:59] <ernstp> tried to touch it :-)
[01:59] <propagandhi> yes indeed
[01:59] <umberleigh> ompaul: perhaps i'm not being very clear. i want to allow azureus the outbound connections it needs, but is there any way of restricting this to certain ports? atm azureus seems to be trying ports at random.
[01:59] <ompaul> ernstp, propagandhi just gave you the solution however it should read >>sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial<<
[01:59] <apokryphos> ernstp: it's a folder; you wouldn't touch it
[01:59] <Seveas> ernstp, that's stupid
[02:00] <cafuego_> umberleigh: Don't firewall outgoing connections, it's a PITA.
[02:00] <Seveas> ernstp, take cafuego_'s advice
[02:00] <Seveas> and don't run rm manually in there
[02:00] <cafuego_> Seveas: Are you sure about that?
[02:00] <ompaul> umberleigh, is that not the way azureus works? to be honest it is not something I run myself
[02:00] <ernstp> Seveas, NOW you tell me! :-P
[02:00] <Seveas> cafuego_, just in this case :)
[02:00] <propagandhi> ompaul: true i missed that
[02:00] <apokryphos> ernstp: who told you to rm -rf ?
[02:01] <apokryphos> it's not the recommended way, clearly =)
[02:01] <Plebeuz> f
[02:01] <cafuego_> ernstp: If you run the update manager, go to prefs, you can tell it to automagically remove old archives from the cache.
[02:01] <ernstp> apokryphos, told me? na, I just thought I should clear some files in there
[02:01] <apokryphos> MasterSheep: no reason to wait -- fire away
[02:01] <tim-yada-112> I have two windows 2000 servrer machines serving as Primary Domain controller, and backup domain controller. I would like to phase those out and replace them with some Linux flavor, Need advice on how to proceed
[02:01] <apokryphos> MasterSheep: we'd have an awful long queue if there was only one convo at a time :P
[02:01] <lingoist> ompaul: cant even start in server mode :(
[02:02] <ernstp> cafuego, yeah, but it's set and since that doesn't seem to work I did it manually
[02:02] <umberleigh> cafuego_: PITA?
[02:02] <cafuego_> tim-yada-112: Install & configure samba. Also see the 'samba-doc' package.
[02:02] <ompaul> ernstp, there is a command for that "sudo apt-get clean"
[02:02] <cafuego_> umberleigh: It creates a lot of work for no gain.
[02:02] <ompaul> lingoist, does it boot with a live CD?
[02:02] <propagandhi> ernstp: as cafuego_ said, if you're gonna do it in the command line use 'sudo apt-get clean' in future
[02:02] <cafuego_> !pita
[02:02] <ubotu> Not a clue, cafuego_
[02:02] <ompaul> lingoist, does it boot with an install CD?
[02:02] <Kilter> cafuego: that's the thing I'm having a problem with.
[02:02] <MasterSheep> Thanks apok
[02:02] <ernstp> ompaul, yeah, if I had stopped to think a second I'd thought of that also..
[02:02] <lingoist> ompaul: never tried
[02:02] <cafuego_> !pita is Pain In The Arse
[02:02] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[02:02] <MasterSheep> It's just a quick question
[02:02] <Seveas> tim-yada-112, www.google.com/search?q=samba+domain+controller+howto
[02:02] <Seveas> that'll get you started
[02:02] <ompaul> ernstp, :-)
[02:02] <apokryphos> cafuego_: how very English of you ;-)
[02:02] <ernstp> yeah, thanks for writing that 3 times now.
[02:03] <cafuego_> apokryphos: Yes, I speak english.
[02:03] <Seveas> !cafuego is <reply> see !pita
[02:03] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:03] <bimberi> rofl
[02:03] <cafuego_> !seveas is guilty
[02:03] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[02:03] <ernstp> seems like updatemanager and synaptic has different preferences for the archive cache
[02:03] <Determinist> Seveas, any idea if a windows mobile PDA can be synched with linux somehow mate?
[02:03] <MasterSheep> apokryphos: It's just a quick question about installing from the CD
[02:03] <Seveas> Determinist, not a single tiny little bit of clue
[02:04] <Determinist> Seveas, thanks lol
[02:04] <Spudchat> whats a good resolution for a widescreen?
[02:04] <cafuego_> Seveas: Note that like pita bread, I'm better with hommus.
[02:04] <apokryphos> MasterSheep: so shoot! You'll see if anyone knows :)
[02:04] <Spudchat> everyone ive tried is worse then the last :(
[02:04] <Determinist> Seveas, did you find what you needed in that PDF or do you need the second one mate?
[02:04] <bimberi> Determinist: look for packages with synce and multisync in them
[02:04] <Kilter> 1280X800 works well Spudchat
[02:04] <Determinist> bimberi, thanks
[02:04] <MasterSheep> When I boot up, the keyboard is completely unrecognized
[02:04] <cafuego_> Spudchat: The otimum resolution for said screen. Anything else will look fairly crap.
[02:04] <bimberi> Determinist: yw :)
[02:04] <Spudchat> thanks...
[02:04] <MasterSheep> I dunno if it has to do with the drivers or what
[02:04] <Seveas> Determinist, i've been bugsquashing for 6 hours - did not have time to read it
[02:05] <MasterSheep> But no matter what I do, I can't get the Install CD to recognize any input
[02:05] <Determinist> Seveas, k mate, lemme know :)
[02:05] <Determinist> pocket PC == windows mobile ?
[02:05] <MasterSheep> Any ideas anyone?
[02:05] <ScatterBrain> everytime I try to play an mp3 with xmms, it locks up.
[02:05] <drbrown> has anyone had any problems with hard drive sizes with nvidia sata controllers???
[02:06] <svref> How to restart X?
[02:06] <apokryphos> ScatterBrain: you probably have to change your audio output
[02:06] <Seveas> ScatterBrain: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[02:06] <MasterSheep> If it helps, I'm using the PPC version
[02:06] <Spudchat> argh they all look sooooo big
[02:06] <apokryphos> svref: logout and then ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:06] <Seveas> svref, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[02:06] <nalioth> MasterSheep: what hardware?
[02:06] <darkmatter> svref:ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:06] <bz0b> hey nalioth
[02:06] <ompaul> good night good people
[02:07] <drbrown> I have a pair of seagate hard drives that show up as the full 80GB rather than 76 GB
[02:07] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Old ghetto iMac G3
[02:07] <drbrown> is this normal?????
[02:07] <ScatterBrain> apokryphos: Thanks, that did it.
[02:07] <MasterSheep> nalioth: I'm pretty sure it's the DV+ model
[02:07] <cafuego_> Apple never released a model called 'Ghetto'. Want to be specific?
[02:07] <kevogod> MasterSheep, If I have to use one of those again, I might kill someone.
[02:07] <ScatterBrain> Seveas: Thanks.
[02:08] <MasterSheep> Haha... sure. You missed the 'ghetto' right before the G3 suffix?
[02:08] <darkmatter> drbrown: is that ubuntu compared to windows?
[02:08] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[02:08] <MasterSheep> It was there, I swear :P
[02:09] <MasterSheep> DV+ Model, 400 MHz (If I remember correctly), 20 GB HD
[02:09] <ericz> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/03/183207
[02:10] <VoX> grrr why am i getting an md5 mismatch from my ubuntu server :(
[02:10] <drbrown> darkmatter: that's ubuntu & debian compared to fc4, which I would rather not use
[02:10] <VoX> fc4 is horrid
[02:10] <nalioth> MasterSheep: using the standard inputs?
[02:10] <VoX> i _have_ to use it at work
[02:11] <MasterSheep> nalioth: If by standard inputs you mean the standard apple USB keyboard, then yes
[02:11] <FhaeTon> how much space is needed for the swap drive?
[02:11] <Spudchat> twice the ram
[02:11] <darkmatter> differences in the way the distro's calculate free space? not 100% sure. i'll have a look-see
[02:11] <propagandhi> does anyone know how i can temporarily point my compiler to gcc-3.4.5
[02:12] <FhaeTon> 2 times the ram of the rig
[02:12] <FhaeTon> ?
[02:12] <nalioth> MasterSheep: have you checked your md5s on both iso and burnt cd?
[02:12] <Spudchat> i do believe thats like standard FhaeTon
[02:12] <FhaeTon> no I nooby don't have thoughts like that yet.
[02:12] <MasterSheep> nalioth: It wasn't a burnt CD or ISO; it was the pre packaged promo copy
[02:13] <nalioth> MasterSheep: some of those commercially produced discs did not come out of the oven correctly
[02:14] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Hah... Not all of them can. You think that's what's wrong?
[02:14] <liquidten2> Yup, i got a whole batch of 40 coasters.
[02:14] <nalioth> MasterSheep: something to check
[02:14] <MasterSheep> nalioth: How would I go about checking?
[02:15] <nalioth> MasterSheep: you are the first ppc user who has had this problem (to my notice) and it seems unusual
[02:15] <cius> so whats new in breezy?  I've read the "whats new" list of course, but anyone notice anything particularly different?
[02:15] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Goodie! I feel special... all warm and fuzzy inside
[02:15] <liquidten2> cuis: a lot
[02:16] <cius> liquidten2: I've not given it a go yet, I decided to use hoary when I did my install, figure I can just upgrade to breezy.  How is the new gnome?
[02:16] <MasterSheep> nalioth: How would I go about checking the md5 on my mac?
[02:17] <nalioth> MasterSheep: do you have a livecd or a functioning OS for your mac?
[02:18] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Oh, yes. The iMac is by no means my main computer. I use an iBook running OS X Tiger most of the time
[02:18] <jmg> ok i give up... will readress issue after breezy goes final :)
[02:18] <liquidten2> cius:  The new gnome is very nice ;)  Lets see... off the top of my head some changes i can think of are:  When you select text and move it you actually see the text instead of the usual pointer thing.  The new gtk 2.8 uses Cairo, and a lot of things look more crisp and better.  New nautilus view modes(tree mode) a clipboard daemon so that when you close an app you can keep what's in your clipboard.  New totem that has a decent side bar
[02:18] <nalioth> MasterSheep: then find the download page for your image and get the md5sums
[02:18] <bz0b> totem is awsome, it plays all my mp3's
[02:18] <bz0b> without royalty fee
[02:19] <jmg> bz0b: haha
[02:19] <jrattner1> scared to death scared to look
[02:19] <zygis> cius, GNOME 2.12 [http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/C/]  among other things
[02:19] <liquidten2> bz0b:  the whole "mp3 patents" thing is blown way out of proportion.  From the xmms.org homepage.  "Hello Debian and Debian users, Want to rant about mp3patents? Sure, 2002 called and want their august news back.  We love everyone."
[02:20] <cius> liquidten2, yea, I'm really excited about the use of cairo and about the new linux desktop direction in general.  I can't wait to see it for myself.
[02:20] <Determinist> this is weird, cant make evolution fetch pop3 mail from gmail since it wont let me pick port number and secure connection as options. it just assumes you're going to use plain pop3
[02:20] <philalou121> Quelqu'un peut m'aider en franais
[02:20] <propagandhi> can someone quickly remind me of the command to reinstall and reconfigure a package
[02:20] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Hmmm... it looks like somethings not right. I think I got one of the 'duds'
[02:21] <philalou121> Quelqu'un peut m'aider en franais
[02:21] <philalou121> ?
[02:21] <MasterSheep> nalioth: I'm just gonna redownload and install from a burned disc
[02:21] <nalioth> !fr
[02:21] <ubotu> well, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:21] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Thanks for all the help :D
[02:21] <nalioth> MasterSheep: burn it slow, and not with Disk Utility
[02:21] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Of course not. Toast is fine, right?
[02:22] <nalioth> MasterSheep: yup. and slow
[02:22] <MasterSheep> nalioth: Will do! Thanks again
[02:22] <propagandhi> guys, whats the command to reinstall and reconfigure a package, mind is blank
[02:22] <ratte_> !help
[02:23] <ratte_> lo
[02:23] <nalioth> ratte_: you need to ask a real question. our mind reading skills suck
[02:23] <ratte_> where i find the mirros for apt
[02:23] <cius> Is Firefox still the default browser in breezy or is gnome's epiphany the default?
[02:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ratte_ about sources
[02:24] <cius> and thanks for that link zygis, I'd heard about most of it.  :-)
[02:24] <liquidten2> cius:  I believe firefox is the default, but i wouldn't know for sure since i use it anyway
[02:24] <VoX> cius: firefox
[02:24] <FhaeTon> If your using 2 HD in Raid0 ..How many swap partitions do I make?
[02:24] <liquidten2> cius: i take it you are having speed problems with firefox too?
[02:24] <VoX> firefox fails it
[02:25] <VoX> hence why i use opera :)
[02:25] <zygis> hehe, hence why you really should use lynx
[02:25] <zygis> :)
[02:25] <liquidten2> I mix it up between opera, firefox and epiphany.  But i also use FreeBSD and not ubuntu... <_<
[02:25] <liquidten2> *i do have ubuntu installed,  it's just not my primary desktop
[02:26] <cius> liquiten2, no, my firefox is fine as far as I can tell
[02:26] <jrattner1> does ubuntu support more hardware then debian?
[02:26] <kbrooks> jrattner1: yes
[02:26] <VoX> jrattner1: yeah
[02:26] <zygis> cius, firefox is the default, I prefer apt-get install epiphany, though
[02:27] <VoX> epiphany is worse than ff :P
[02:27] <liquidten2> cius:  a lot of people using ubuntu's firefox package are complaining about much slower speeds than say epiphany or even the official firefox build from mozilla.org
[02:27] <liquidten2> me included
[02:27] <bob_c_b> my FF issues cleared up after 1.07 pkg
[02:27] <cius> zygis, I might have to try epiphany, I've never used it, but they say its a derived from firefox, so I'm not sure what a difference it could make.
[02:27] <hajiki> my firefox is running great as well
[02:27] <VoX> i'm using an amd64, so i dont have many issues with speed, regardless of what i'm doing :)
[02:28] <bob_c_b> Epiphany is very fast but i haven't bothered tweaking media plug-ins yet
[02:28] <Vegar> epiphany is a lightweight firefox
[02:28] <bob_c_b> so i don't use it much
[02:28] <liquidten2> cius:  well it's smaller, and more integrated into gnome.  Other than that it's still based on gecko just like firefox(although epiphany 1.8(gnome 2.12) uses gecko 1.8 and firefox only uses 1.7 so that may make it a little(lot) faster
[02:28] <cius> liquidten2, that sounds wierd.  I can't tell any difference between the ubuntu version and the one I used on windows.  but then again, I've got high speed access and decent hardware, so maybe it wouldn't affect me as much?
[02:28] <zygis> bob_c_b, what do you mean? totem provides ones for ephy
[02:29] <bob_c_b> yea, i just haven't bothered to set anyting up as i usually run FF
[02:29] <bob_c_b> i only just installed epiphany when the FF pkg was busted for some people last week
[02:30] <bob_c_b> did the old apt-get -forcethebuggerinwithahammer and FF is back working
[02:30] <liquidten2> cius:  On my pentium3 withj 512mb rami do(did, haven't really tested recently) have problems where firefox would take about 4 seconds longer to startup than epiphany, and opening up more than 10 tabs would completely freeze the browser for about 6 or so seconds.    I think I tried elinks or something like that and it actually seemed slower than firefox...
[02:31] <liquidten2> grndslm: the new epiphany in 2.12 does http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/extensions   not as many as firefox though by far
[02:31] <kevogod> grndslm, But it does.
[02:31] <bob_c_b> i like it grndslm, lean and clean
[02:31] <nalioth> grndslm: put the extensions for firefox into the same folder in the epiphany tree
[02:31] <kevogod> grndslm, epiphany-extensions
[02:31] <grndslm> epiphany extensions aren't firefox extensions
[02:32] <cius> liquidten2, wow, that is a big difference, certainly noticable
[02:32] <kevogod> Who say they were?
[02:32] <kevogod> *said
[02:32] <theblue> Hi all.
[02:33] <kevogod> If you don't like the browser, you can always download the boulder game.
[02:33] <hajiki> if you dont like Firefox you can always download free Opera Browser :(
[02:33] <theblue> Or Epiphany.
[02:33] <theblue> Or Mozilla.
[02:33] <AngryParsley> :) I use opera
[02:33] <liquidten2> kevogod:  that's what always bugged me.  If i install the game first and then the browser(this is in other distros) the browser detects the game and i get "epiphany-browser"  but if i install the game after epiphany it completely overwrites the binary
[02:34] <_jason> or run ie in wine
[02:34] <kevogod> Or even, yikes, Konqueror.
[02:34] <_jason> JUST KIDDING
[02:34] <bob_c_b> good one jason
[02:34] <ratte_> !nvidia
[02:34] <kevogod> Galeon
[02:34] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:34] <hajiki> !ati
[02:34] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[02:34] <kevogod> !ie
[02:34] <ubotu> kevogod: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:34] <theblue> !firefox
[02:34] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, theblue
[02:34] <cius> would any of you knowledgable folks happen to know of an irc client that I can have both a translucent background and borderless (like eterm is capable of)?
[02:34] <theblue> !ie
[02:35] <liquidten2> I usedd galeon for the longest time back in the 1.4 days of gnome.
[02:35] <theblue> Irssi, running in eterm.
[02:35] <nalioth> cius: irssi in an eterm
[02:35] <grndslm> i loved galeon 'til firefox came along and stole its thunder
[02:35] <cius> awesome
[02:35] <kennethlove> irssi > *
[02:35] <hajiki> yeah gaelon used to be nice
[02:35] <theblue> Ubuntu > *.
[02:35] <liquidten2> it was the only browser i coudl stand using.
[02:36] <cius> never heard of irssi, thanks alot
[02:36] <theblue> Asterisk > *.
[02:36] <WhiteRabbit> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/bounties/  what a wonderful bounty it is indeedy
[02:36] <theblue> cius: Go to a console, and type "irc", it'll start Irssi.
[02:36] <ratte_> !repositorys
[02:36] <ubotu> ratte_: Are you smoking crack?
[02:36] <theblue> Yes,
[02:36] <DapperDrake> !repositories
[02:36] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[02:36] <liquidten2> Mozilla was a freakin moster of a memory hog, netscape 4 had this strange "bug" where it wouldn't display any of my pages correctly.
[02:36] <bob_c_b> yea, i struggled through some ugly netscape clients before gaelon
[02:36] <cius> theblue, so I don't need to get it through apt?
[02:37] <theblue> cius: If you do, the name is irssi-text.
[02:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ratte_ about sources
[02:37] <cius> theblue, thanks
[02:37] <nalioth> ratte_: look to your private messages
[02:37] <theblue> No problem, cius.
[02:37] <theblue> !breezy
[02:37] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:37] <theblue> !hoary
[02:37] <ubotu> well, hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[02:37] <theblue> !warty
[02:37] <ubotu> theblue: Are you smoking crack?
[02:37] <nalioth> cius: irssi installed by default
[02:37] <theblue> !warthog
[02:37] <ubotu> theblue: What?
[02:37] <theblue> !dpkg
[02:37] <nalioth> !botabuse
[02:37] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:37] <theblue> Woops.
[02:38] <theblue> Ok, then.
[02:38] <nalioth> !ubotu
[02:38] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:38] <kennethlove> play with the bot? dirty.
[02:38] <theblue> ...
[02:38] <nalioth> theblue: read the webpage ^^^^ dont just !fish !for !triggers
[02:38] <ratte_> E: Konnte Paket linux-restricted-modules nicht finden <-- where i can find this package?
[02:38] <yoink> excuse me, i tried to install the latest fglrx driver but im getting these errors...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2747
[02:39] <Seveas> ratte_, install linux-686 (intel cpu) or linux-k7 (amd)
[02:39] <liquidten2> apt-cache search it(i don't know the name of the correct package, but i'm pretty sure it needs the kernel version and architecture)
[02:39] <jcsteele> ok, still no luck.  is it possible to mount a bsd filesystem in ubuntu?
[02:40] <LetterRip> Hi, I added Blenders cvs to the luanchpad page here
[02:40] <LetterRip> https://launchpad.net/products/blender/+series/2.3
[02:40] <cius> nalioth, just found that out, but thanks anyway!  Now I gotta go through and make sure its set up right...
[02:40] <LetterRip> I believe we use different library versions than upstream for some things we link against
[02:40] <Seveas> jcsteele, man mount :)
[02:41] <liquidten2> jcsteele: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD-5.html  it's a little outdated(linux CAN mount ufs now natively)
[02:41] <bob_c_b> it's linux-restricted-modules-uname ratte
[02:41] <jcsteele> Seveas, yes, i have.  i am using the ubuntu disk manager, and as far as i can tell, ubuntu cant read the bsd disklabel
[02:41] <jcsteele> liquidten2, its an openbsd disk, so it uses ffs
[02:42] <liquidten2> jcsteele: that makes it more difficult...
[02:42] <LetterRip> is there a way to add our bugtracker to launchpad also?
[02:42] <liquidten2> i've only knowledge of freebsd
[02:42] <crimsun> LetterRip: these questions are more easily addressed in #launchpad
[02:42] <ratte_> !tell ratte nvidia
[02:42] <LetterRip> ah sorry thanks for the pointer
[02:42] <crimsun> LetterRip: np
[02:42] <ratte_> !tell ratte_ nvidia
[02:42] <ratte_> !tell ratte_ : nvidia
[02:42] <MikeStyle> uhm i upgraded to breezy and my startx isnt working. im chatting through terminal right now because i have no display manager
[02:42] <nootrope> Hiya, anyone know the equivalent of a left-click on the PowerPC versions of Linux? I'm running HH on a Apple Powerbook.
[02:43] <nalioth> ratte_: look at your private messages
[02:43] <nalioth> nootrope: f12
[02:43] <ratte_> it says user not exist
[02:43] <yoink> excuse me, i tried to install the latest fglrx driver but im getting these errors...http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2747
[02:43] <nootrope> nalioth: thanks
[02:43] <yoink> any ideas?
[02:43] <nootrope> nalioth: so point and f12?
[02:44] <ratte_> linux-restricted-modules <-- is this packet linux-k7 ?
[02:44] <ratte_> or need i other packs?
[02:44] <nalioth> nootrope: dont you have one mouse button already?
[02:44] <nootrope> yes
[02:44] <_aaron> y helo thar, fellow Ubuntu folks
[02:44] <oxez> yoink: I had this problem this morning, I reinstalled the kernel and then it worked (using the .run driver file on ati.com)
[02:44] <crimsun> yoink: did you try the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto for the ATI?
[02:44] <nalioth> then the right-click is f12
[02:44] <MikeStyle> i upgraded to breezy and restarted. my display manager didnt start
[02:44] <AngryParsley> so... how safe is it to use gparted to convert an NTFS partition to ext3?
[02:44] <bob_c_b> anyone at Ohio Linuxfest this past Saturday?
[02:44] <nootrope> so i point to the object i want to right-clcik on and hit f12?
[02:44] <ratte_> !nvidia
[02:44] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:44] <nalioth> AngryParsley: say goodbye to your data
[02:44] <nalioth> nootrope: yup
[02:45] <AngryParsley> nalioth: then why is that option not ghosted or something?
[02:45] <nalioth> ghosted?
[02:45] <liquidten2> _aaron: i'm not using ubuntu...  i just like the IRC channel <_<
[02:45] <nootrope> thanks. i just realiized i had typed left click, sorry. :)
[02:45] <AngryParsley> I mean disabled or something
[02:45] <mwright1> will breezy release  livecd have openoffice 2.0 on it?  what version of Thunderbird and Firefox will it have? for win32 that is
[02:45] <nalioth> parted is not a conversion program
[02:45] <MikeStyle> ...
[02:45] <nalioth> parted is a partitioning program. if you want to convert one to the other, dont expect your data to survive
[02:45] <yoink> crimsun, ill check it out
[02:45] <AngryParsley> there's a nice little menu when I right click on the partition and it says "convert to.."
[02:46] <crimsun> mwright1: it will have what's currently in it
[02:46] <AngryParsley> so it's not really converting, it's just deleting the partition and creating a new on of the same size
[02:46] <nalioth> AngryParsley: NTFS and linux dont play well together
[02:46] <yoink> oxez, i have a standard kernel, dont know how to reinstall it, im a noob
[02:46] <AngryParsley> nalioth: yeah, tell me about it
[02:46] <MikeStyle> can anyone help me
[02:46] <MikeStyle> ?
[02:46] <AngryParsley> I have this 200 gig drive full of crap, but it's formatted NTFS :(
[02:46] <oxez> yoink: open synaptic
[02:46] <liquidten2> nalioth: they play together better than Windows NT+reiserfs
[02:46] <oxez> yoink: I just selected 'Reinstall'
[02:46] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: yeah, at least I can read from it
[02:47] <nalioth> MikeStyle: at your prompt, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[02:47] <p0windah> moaning all
[02:47] <oxez> hi
[02:47] <nalioth> AngryParsley: linux can READ it fine
[02:47] <ratte_> what they mean with linux-restricted-modules?
[02:47] <MikeStyle> nalioth, i had someone tell me that exact same thing and it didnt work. it said something about xorg being broken
[02:47] <bob_c_b> Mike, open your xorg.conf and change the driver back to "vesa" and see if that lets X start
[02:47] <tritium> ratte_, binary-only drivers
[02:47] <AngryParsley> nalioth: yeah, I'm glad, but I don't have 200 gigs of free space on any other drive to back my stuff up
[02:47] <nalioth> MikeStyle: then wait til tomorrow when xorg gets new upgrades
[02:47] <yoink> crimsun, im having a bit of trouble connecting to the wiki...
[02:48] <nalioth> bob_c_b: pay attention
[02:48] <tritium> ratte_, such as nvidia, in your case
[02:48] <_aaron> Forbidden modules. It's like Area 51; made of alien technology. =)
[02:48] <MikeStyle> bob_c_b, im chatting through terminal, NO DISPLAY MANAGER, i cant edit it without seeing it
[02:48] <yoink> oxez, k, ill try that after i read this wiki article
[02:48] <crimsun> yoink: routing hiccup on your end then
[02:48] <MikeStyle> nalioth, i need it working today...
[02:48] <RockyBurt> hm, i recently did an update in breezy and now my wireless device doesn't detect any AP's
[02:48] <nalioth> MikeStyle: ctrl-alt-f3 gets you a new terminal (you have 8 of em)
[02:48] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: you don't need X to edit files
[02:48] <yoink> crimsun, wouldnt be a first...im at college,so quite a monster of a network
[02:48] <ratte_> where i get the nvidia driver?
[02:48] <crimsun> ratte_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <JairunCaloth> when I try to mount my windows drive it says /dev/hdb already mounted or /mdt/hdb busy
[02:49] <RockyBurt> anyone know of any changes to the ubuntu breezy stuff that might have broken wireless recently?
[02:49] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, i would be no good at it. not good with command line at all
[02:49] <ratte_> crimsun, ther stand the package : linux-restricted-modules
[02:49] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: oh i see what you're saying now.  Press control+f2 and then type in nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:49] <ratte_> i don t know what they mean
[02:49] <p0windah> JairunCaloth: have a look in the /media/ directory
[02:49] <p0windah> JairunCaloth: its probably already mounted
[02:49] <crimsun> MikeStyle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: as root that is, then when youa re finished editing it press control+x
[02:49] <crimsun> MikeStyle: choose the vesa driver
[02:49] <AngryParsley> so is there any way to convert my NTFS partition to ext3 or something with another utility?
[02:49] <tritium> ratte_, I told you that they are binary-only drivers, such as nvidia
[02:49] <MikeStyle> crimsun i already said that didnt work
[02:49] <theblue> !brainfuck
[02:49] <ubotu> theblue: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:50] <delltony> anyone here used qtparted before if so how come you can't resize your active partition? i click on /dev/hda1 and resize it it and nada
[02:50] <theblue> Damn.
[02:50] <crimsun> MikeStyle: not even to choose the vesa driver?
[02:50] <tritium> theblue, please dont do that
[02:50] <tritium> don't even
[02:50] <JairunCaloth> p0windah: it's not there, I can't find it
[02:50] <MikeStyle> nope
[02:50] <theblue> tritium: Sorry, I was looking for the language.
[02:50] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, i pressed ctrl f2 and nothing
[02:50] <crimsun> MikeStyle: dpkg -l xserver-xorg|grep ^ii
[02:50] <tritium> ok, just try to keep it work-safe ;)
[02:50] <p0windah> off to get some breakfast, later
[02:50] <liquidten2> ctrl+alt+f2 sorry
[02:50] <nalioth> theblue: you were given the webpage of ubotus brains. please use it and !quit !fishing
[02:50] <theblue> tritium: K.
[02:50] <tritium> :)
[02:50] <theblue> nalioth: Ok, then.
[02:51] <MikeStyle> crimsum, my xserver is broken, thats the problem
[02:51] <crimsun> MikeStyle: what's the output from the command I gave you?
[02:51] <MikeStyle> hold on
[02:51] <MikeStyle> wut command do i press for new terminal again? and then how do i close it once im done?
[02:51] <jdunck> i'm considering installing tightvnc server on hoary. i don't see a synaptic package for it.  any pointers or advice?  ok to just build from source?  what happens when ubuntu later includes the package?
[02:51] <yoink> crimsun, the wiki is definately up atm?
[02:51] <nalioth> MikeStyle: no need to close anything. you can alternate between them
[02:52] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Control+Alt+F2  then login.  When you are done type exit and then Control Alt F1 to get back
[02:52] <MikeStyle> nalioth, how alternate?
[02:52] <nalioth> MikeStyle: ctrl-alt-f1 through f8
[02:52] <MikeStyle> ok
[02:52] <crimsun> jdunck: does the installed Vino not suffice?
[02:52] <bob_c_b> gotta go, be ack later
[02:52] <Toma-> can kde do animated backgounds?
[02:52] <paca> Hi.
[02:52] <crimsun> yoink: absolutely
[02:52] <MikeStyle> ok crimsum, what command
[02:52] <Toma-> or gnome for that matter
[02:52] <WhiteRabbit> Toma-, if you have tons of ram sure
[02:52] <WhiteRabbit> Toma-, You mean like wintel can
[02:52] <crimsun> MikeStyle: dpkg -l xserver-xorg|grep ^ii
[02:53] <WhiteRabbit> Like the moving lava lake wallpaper deal
[02:53] <Toma-> WhiteRabbit: i tried with an animated gif but only used the first fame :(
[02:53] <Toma-> WhiteRabbit: no, like e17 ;)
[02:53] <jdunck> crimsun, checking
[02:53] <WhiteRabbit> Toma-, the easy way is to interlace a screensaver as the wallpaper! much easyer that way ;)~
[02:53] <Toma-> hmm
[02:54] <jamie_1> anyone know where to write programs?
[02:54] <MikeStyle> crimsum, i did your command and nothing happened
[02:54] <HrdwrBob> jamie_1: erm
[02:54] <liquidten2> jamie_1: what do you mean?
[02:54] <AngryParsley> whoa, 167 updates available
[02:54] <crimsun> MikeStyle: _nothing_?
[02:54] <MikeStyle> nothing at all
[02:54] <nalioth> MikeStyle: you said you've reconfigured for VESA?
[02:54] <jamie_1> as in......... to write programs like games in liquidten2
[02:54] <AngryParsley> most of them are x-windows drivers for video cards that are not mine
[02:54] <jamie_1> and HrdwrBob
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: I don't think you typed it properly
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: it should at least give you a line containing an installed package version
[02:55] <MikeStyle> nalioth, i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it said something about x being broken...
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: if it's not installed, dpkg will give you an error
[02:55] <MikeStyle> crimsum i assure u i typed it right
[02:55] <crimsun> MikeStyle: there are only two possibilities for output, and I just gave them to you
[02:56] <MikeStyle> hold on
[02:56] <MikeStyle> -l or i
[02:56] <dell500> how do i find out what port apache uses for a gallery?
[02:56] <crimsun> MikeStyle: an el
[02:56] <MikeStyle> ok
[02:56] <MikeStyle> is there a space between grep and ^ii
[02:57] <crimsun> MikeStyle: yes
[02:57] <MikeStyle> ok
[02:57] <MikeStyle> same exact output, nothing
[02:58] <MikeStyle> ...
[02:58] <MikeStyle> ?
[02:58] <bimberi> MikeStyle: leave the "| grep ^ii" off, do you get anything then?
[02:58] <MikeStyle> hold on bimberi
[02:58] <haft> hello ppl, i need some help
[02:58] <MikeStyle> bimberi, i did get output
[02:58] <crimsun> you should most definitely not get nothing
[02:59] <nalioth> haft: we need a question
[02:59] <haft> i installed the prew version
[02:59] <bimberi> MikeStyle: what's the last line?
[02:59] <MikeStyle> hold on
[02:59] <liquidten2> nalioth:  I've become quite apt at reading peoples minds actually <_<
[02:59] <haft> but the xorg is not running
[02:59] <jdunck> crimsun, i'm having trouble finding documentation on vino.  link?
[02:59] <yosh> whats up, im trying to get my ubuntu install to boot, its on /dev/hdb1 but passing root=/dev/hdb1 fails, im wondering if ubuntu uses some odd device names or something?
[02:59] <haft> and i need a root pass to change the conf file
[02:59] <AngryParsley> oh, can you delete files on an NTFS partition from linux?
[02:59] <yosh> grub can access the kernel on hd0,1 tho
[03:00] <crimsun> jdunck: System> Preferences> Remote Desktop
[03:00] <cius> exit
[03:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell haft about root
[03:00] <jdunck> crimsun, thanks
[03:00] <AngryParsley> I mean, without massive data corruption
[03:00] <MikeStyle> bimberi... iU xserver xorg    6.8.2-74    the x.org xserver (dummy package)
[03:00] <liquidten2> haft: Root is disabled.  login as user, type "sudo whateveryouwantedtotype" then type in YOUR password for your user account.
[03:00] <haft> thx
[03:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell liquidten2 about root
[03:01] <yosh> anyone know what /dev/hdb1 would be to ubuntu?
[03:01] <nalioth> yosh: just what you wrote
[03:01] <yosh> doesnt work..
[03:01] <haft> is there an xorg configurator in the prew release?
[03:01] <yosh> i get a kernel panic
[03:01] <nalioth> yosh: then you dont have one
[03:01] <Trashcan> !root
[03:01] <ubotu> root is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:01] <yosh> i know its /dev/hdb1 cos grub loads the kernel from hd1,0
[03:01] <crimsun> MikeStyle: that means it's not configured
[03:01] <yosh> hd1,0 is /dev/hdb1 am i right
[03:01] <MikeStyle> crimsum, how to configure?
[03:02] <crimsun> MikeStyle: what error message does it give you when you try to ''sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg''?
[03:02] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: There are two ways.  If the dpkg-reconfigure thing doesn't work for you, then type in xorgconfig and answer it's questions(you have to know a little about your monitor)
[03:02] <MikeStyle> crimsum, when i do that the first thing i get is a perl warning
[03:02] <tritium> hondje, I completely second that wish
[03:02] <delltony> dang i messed up and made /dev/hda unactive in qtparted and i can't figure out how to make it active again any help would be great
[03:03] <MikeStyle> im using a laptop liquidten2
[03:03] <Brize> ake it active again any help would be great
[03:03] <yosh> nalioth: why can i pull the kernel in /boot with hd1,0 with grub but then root=/dev/hdb1 fails?
[03:03] <crimsun> MikeStyle: ok the Perl warning about LOCALE/LC_ALL is not critical
[03:03] <mdz> haft: it should generate a working configuration by default; if it didn't, it's probably a bug
[03:03] <crimsun> MikeStyle: but where and when does it fail after that?
[03:03] <mdz> haft: but you should try the latest stuff before reporting one
[03:03] <hondje> tritium: I tried making one, but qt is much easier for a guy like me than gtk
[03:03] <MikeStyle> crimsum, what do you mean where and when
[03:03] <nalioth> yosh: i have no idea. i have powerpcs
[03:03] <crimsun> MikeStyle: I mean what happens after those warnings?
[03:04] <tritium> hondje, file a wishlist bug :)
[03:04] <hondje> ooh, there's a good idea :)
[03:04] <hondje> the edubuntu guys would probably like that too
[03:04] <hondje> 0.
[03:04] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  All you need to know is the refresh rates and max resolutions  :  When you type dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server you should get an ncurses based interface where it asks you questions and makes an /etc/X11/xorg.conf based on your answers
[03:04] <hondje> You can get those rates by sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange, fwiw
[03:04] <MikeStyle> lc-all=unset.....falling back to standard local of C....
[03:05] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, no such command found
[03:05] <yosh> anyone know why im getting a kernel panic trying to boot ubuntu with root=/dev/hdb1? grub pulls the kernel from /boot on hd1,0 so I know that the hardware is all there
[03:05] <dell500> does anyone know what port gallery (for apache) runs on?
[03:05] <crimsun> MikeStyle: right, those are the warnings. What happens after all those warnings?
[03:05] <MikeStyle> 'xserver-xorg is broken or not fully configured'
[03:06] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  that is the problem.
[03:06] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, what should i do?the xorgconfig command wasnt found
[03:07] <crimsun> MikeStyle: did you dist-upgrade from warty/hoary, or did you install clean?
[03:07] <liquidten2> unfortunately i haven't used Debian in about 2 years and my knowledge of apt is fading.  Someone tell him the command that fixes broken depedencies(i think "aptitude" has a broken filter)
[03:07] <MikeStyle> dist-upgrade
[03:07] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  yoru xorg isn't installed completely
[03:07] <hajiki> apt-get install x-window-system-core
[03:07] <sanpera> liquidten2, apt-get install -f
[03:07] <crimsun> MikeStyle: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:08] <jdunck> crimsun, vino works great, thanks for pointer
[03:08] <AngryParsley> hey, is there any way to delete a file on an NTFS partition from linux?
[03:08] <sn0n> i have a SILLY question... who edits Gnome Help ? cuz there are alot of ermm..small versioning errors.. like : Yelp > Desktop > User Guide and Sys Admin Guide being gnome 2.6
[03:08] <sn0n> kinda.. needs updating maybe
[03:09] <crimsun> jdunck: np
[03:09] <MikeStyle> crimsum, that might take a while
[03:09] <jdunck> AngryParsley, i'm pretty sure NTFS under linux is read-only
[03:09] <liquidten2> AngryParsley: Not even a little bit of a chance of that working
[03:09] <MikeStyle> 98 mb more to dl
[03:09] <crimsun> MikeStyle: that's what I thought.
[03:09] <jdunck> i think system rescue CD can do it, tho
[03:09] <crimsun> it didn't finish downloading all the packages needed to dist-upgrade
[03:09] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  that will fix your problem.
[03:09] <MikeStyle> okay
[03:09] <MikeStyle> when its done then what?
[03:09] <AngryParsley> jdunck: there is experimental writing, but it corrupts data like crazy
[03:09] <AngryParsley> and you can only do things like change files that already exist
[03:09] <crimsun> MikeStyle: it will take care of itself during the dist-upgrade. You don't have to do a thing.
[03:09] <liquidten2> It should automatically do that "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server" we've been talking about and ask you some questions
[03:10] <jdunck> AngryParsley, ok, that's all i know ;-)
[03:10] <MikeStyle> crimsum, so once its done just restart and it should be fixed?
[03:10] <yosh> anyone know why im getting a kernel panic trying to boot ubuntu with root=/dev/hdb1? grub pulls the kernel from /boot on hd1,0 so I know that the hardware is all there
[03:10] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: but ntfsresize can move data around if it's fragmented, what's so different about deleting?
[03:10] <crimsun> MikeStyle: yes
[03:10] <delire> AngryParsley: you can attempt using the captive-nfts driver, but it is not reccommended.
[03:10] <MikeStyle> crimsum, thanks alot man (girl?)
[03:10] <AngryParsley> delire: heh, that sounds risky
[03:10] <sn0n> so what are some good rss readers ?
[03:10] <sn0n> im sick of liferea
[03:11] <liquidten2> AngryParsley:  That's actually the only stable way to do it.
[03:11] <hajiki> root            (hd0,1)
[03:11] <delire> sn0n: i like snownews but it's terminal only.
[03:11] <liquidten2> sn0n: I'd recommend liferea <_<
[03:11] <nalioth> sn0n: heh that is what i was gonna suggest. try rawdog or yarssr
[03:11] <Rylie> ftopic
[03:11] <sn0n> ohh yeh.. snownews.. forgot bout that one.. :-D
[03:11] <MikeStyle> thanks guys
[03:12] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Good luck!
[03:12] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: so what are my chances of losing tons of data? because most of the stuff on there are DVD backups
[03:12] <MikeStyle> good luck? does that mean there is a chance things wont work?
[03:12] <AngryParsley> and I don't want to take the time to rerip them
[03:12] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: I knew you were going to ask that ;)  it should work fine
[03:12] <crimsun> MikeStyle: there's always a chance you might explode.
[03:13] <MikeStyle> crimsum, well spontaneous combustion would kinda suck
[03:13] <delire> AngryParsley: if the contents of the NTFS partition are backed up, why not switch to the fat32 fs and then reload winblows.
[03:13] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, thanks for the reassurance
[03:13] <crimsun> hence the buena suerte
[03:13] <MikeStyle> how old is everyone here? i bet im the youngest
[03:13] <liquidten2> AngryParsley: Captive-ntfs will do it.  Or if you have access to partition magic i'd convert that thing back to fat32
[03:13] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: 16
[03:13] <AngryParsley> delire: because windows won't let me have a fat32 partition bigger than 32 gigs
[03:13] <AngryParsley> and it's a 200 gig drive
[03:13] <theblue> MikeStyle: 12
[03:13] <MikeStyle> theblue 0_o
[03:13] <MikeStyle> never mind
[03:13] <delire> AngryParsley: i see
[03:14] <theblue> MikeStyle: How old are you?
[03:14] <MikeStyle> 16
[03:14] <AngryParsley> the captive ntfs driver looks like the best bet
[03:14] <AngryParsley> thanks
[03:14] <MikeStyle> O_o
[03:14] <liquidten2> <_<
[03:14] <AngryParsley> T_T
[03:14] <crimsun> errors or warnings?
[03:14] <MikeStyle> uhm
[03:14] <crimsun> the warnings are expected
[03:14] <hajiki> http://bustymousepads.com/
[03:14] <tyndz> mirros list  URL?
[03:14] <MikeStyle> crimsum, warnings
[03:14] <nalioth> AngryParsley: be careful with captive
[03:15] <crimsun> if they're errors, your dist-upgrade will fail
[03:15] <tritium> hajiki, that doesn't sound work-safe
[03:15] <MikeStyle> wow i kinda like irc chatting in terminal, its cool
[03:15] <crimsun> screen+irssi
[03:15] <MikeStyle> crimsum, so it should still work?
[03:15] <hajiki> tritium, thats what my boss said
[03:15] <liquidten2> MikeStyle: it makes you feel more "1337" doesn't it
[03:15] <crimsun> MikeStyle: absolutely
[03:15] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, oh yea
[03:15] <nalioth> MikeStyle: screen will free you (gnu screen)
[03:15] <RockyBurt> anyone happen to know if any recent updates affected wlan in ubuntu breezy lately? my wlan just stopped working :(
[03:15] <MikeStyle> 1 f33l 1337
[03:15] <crimsun> RockyBurt: yes, what were you using for wlan?
[03:16] <RockyBurt> crimsun: ndiswrapper
[03:16] <hajiki> RockyBurt, I've had to reboot at times because of updates to hotplug and stuff
[03:16] <tyndz> mirrors list  URL?  I can't locate it in ubuntu.com
[03:16] <MikeStyle> thanks for the help guys
[03:16] <crimsun> RockyBurt: I didn't touch ndiswrapper.
[03:16] <AngryParsley> oh cool, now that I installed ntfsprogs gparted lets me resize ntfs partitions
[03:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyndz about sources
[03:16] <AngryParsley> less messing with partition tables for me
[03:16] <crimsun> RockyBurt: Are you using wpasupplicant?
[03:16] <RockyBurt> crimsun: yes... which also appears to be broken
[03:17] <crimsun> RockyBurt: how did it break?
[03:17] <MikeStyle> i love linux, its such a wonderful challenge!
[03:17] <crimsun> RockyBurt: paste your conffile onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:17] <delire> MikeStyle: and with that attitude you will go far with it..
[03:17] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Once you get used to it it gets boring.  This is my 5th year on unix...  Now using windows is the challenge
[03:17] <MikeStyle> delire, :)
[03:17] <RockyBurt> crimsun: http://paste.plone.org/279
[03:18] <delire> liquidten2: 8 years here and i'm still learning alot.
[03:18] <MikeStyle> liquidten2, there is never a dull moment for me! i always have something to upgrade..or fix...my dad thinks im crazy but i love it
[03:18] <crimsun> RockyBurt: no, I need your conffile
[03:18] <Toma-> i wish kde had more eyecandy :(
[03:18] <crimsun> RockyBurt: I tested pretty thoroughly before I uploaded 0.4.5
[03:18] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  Same thing with me.  I always find something to configure or a different distro to install
[03:18] <AngryParsley> weird, gparted did nothing
[03:19] <delire> Toma-: http://kde-look.org/
[03:19] <Toma-> delire: i know.
[03:19] <AngryParsley> I told it to resize, clicked apply, and it just left everything the same
[03:19] <Toma-> ive installed about 1/2 the things on that site
[03:19] <crimsun> AngryParsley: did you try to resize the _beginning_ of the partition?
[03:19] <delire> Toma-: it has the most eyecandy of any desktop environment ;)
[03:19] <RockyBurt> crimsun: http://paste.plone.org/280
[03:19] <Toma-> e17 has a bit more
[03:19] <AngryParsley> crimsun: what do you mean?
[03:19] <crimsun> AngryParsley: parted-based tools can't resize if you move the beginning of a partition
[03:19] <Toma-> well, moe fancy eyecandy
[03:20] <AngryParsley> I couldn't move the partition, only resize it
[03:20] <Toma-> more*
[03:20] <tritium> AngryParsley, did you grow up in GrumpyGarden?
[03:20] <liquidten2> AngryParsley:  this may seem like a weird thing to recommend, but download Disk 1 of the Mandriva Installer.
[03:20] <holycow> hey guys
[03:20] <AngryParsley> liquidten2: O_o
[03:20] <crimsun> RockyBurt: just as I suspected
[03:20] <holycow> when is breeze schedule for release?
[03:20] <crimsun> RockyBurt: are you actually using smart card authentication?
[03:20] <delire> Toma-: sure, you are probably right with recent development to e17. that said, with Karamba folk are doing wild things.
[03:20] <liquidten2> AngryParsley:  It has the easiest partitioning tool ever, and it supports NTFS quite well.  I take it with me when i work on other people's pcs
[03:20] <kbrooks> holycow: 10 days
[03:20] <poofyhair> is there any wiki people here?
[03:20] <RockyBurt> crimsun: no ;)
[03:20] <holycow> aww crud
[03:20] <holycow> i fly out then
[03:20] <AngryParsley> tritium: actually I got this nick from a random nick generator
[03:20] <Toma-> delire: yeh. pity theyre all noobs writing the plgins
[03:20] <crimsun> RockyBurt: duh. Then comment out lines 7-9
[03:21] <crimsun> I'll post a note to -users tonight.
[03:21] <crimsun> it would be better if I just did something in .postinst to sed out those three lines
[03:22] <delire> Toma-: many are, some are experienced however. i only use KDE at work, so cannot reccommend the best.
[03:22] <RockyBurt> crimsun: also, right now "iwlist wlan0 scanning" no longer returns any AP's even though i have two running here in my office... and i have another laptop connected to one of them
[03:22] <MikeStyle> ok guys restarting comp...wish me luck
[03:22] <Toma-> just gonna have to wait for kde4
[03:22] <liquidten2> MikeStyle:  i believe i already did.  ;)
[03:23] <crimsun> RockyBurt: I'm not entirely convinced that's a wpasupplicant issue at all, since I get that without using wpasupplicant
[03:23] <poofyhair> so no wiki people?
[03:23] <RockyBurt> crimsun: right, same as me typically... i don't necessarily think its a wpa_supplicant issue either
[03:23] <tritium> poofyhair, what's the issue?
[03:23] <crimsun> RockyBurt: also, 'scan' will save you a few keystrokes
[03:23] <tyndz> any IPV6 mirrors?
[03:24] <fortran01> any idea how auto-save in Gmail works?
[03:25] <delire> RockyBurt: what happens if you let the card auto-associate with 'iwconfig wlan0 ap any'?
[03:25] <sn0n> how do i turn spatial back on ? i cant find it
[03:25] <crimsun> back in a bit, need to charge.
[03:25] <RockyBurt> delire: nothing (one of my ap's has no security setup, the second ap has wpa encryption setup)
[03:25] <poofyhair> tritium: Mark's wikipage in on slashdot
[03:26] <Toma-> fortran01: sounds like it saves your email as u type it
[03:26] <delire> RockyBurt: also check the card is on the correct 'mode' with iwconfig. should be 'Managed'
[03:26] <poofyhair> tritium: and I could edit it, I'm scared of what trolls can do
[03:26] <RockyBurt> delire: it is
[03:26] <fortran01> Toma-: how do I test this new feature? =)
[03:26] <delire> RockyBurt: hmm try 'iwconfig wlan0 mode Auto'
[03:26] <Toma-> ummm
[03:27] <mwright1> Can someone help me with a iptables rule,
[03:27] <Toma-> write something then run killall firefox-bin
[03:27] <RockyBurt> delire: nothing. ... but if i can't see any ap's with iwlist wlan scan ... i won't be able to connect to any, will i?
[03:28] <delire> RockyBurt: no, i wanted to ensure that mode wasn't getting in the way in the first instance.
[03:28] <RockyBurt> ah, i see
[03:28] <liquidten2> sn0n: you mean in nautilus?  if so, open it up, click on Edit, Preferences, Behaviour, and uncheck always open in browser windows.
[03:28] <sn0n> i want to turn it on
[03:28] <sn0n> oo.. i get you.. thnx
[03:28] <delire> RockyBurt: what is the Tx-Power for that card? see iwconfig
[03:28] <mwright1> I want to write a rule to allow connections to port 22 on <IP_ADDRESS> via eth0
[03:28] <sn0n> wait.. that didnt fix it
[03:28] <sn0n> lol
[03:29] <RockyBurt> delire: 25 dBm
[03:29] <delire> mwright1: sounds like you want 'shorewall'. it is for precisely this purpose and is excellent.
[03:29] <tritium> poofyhair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
[03:29] <Pickle_Weasel> um, i got quite accustomed to right clicking on my desktop to open a terminal, but now that i updated to breezy that has been replaced with "create folder" so i have a bunch of folders everywhere... >.>
[03:29] <Pickle_Weasel> is there any way i could get it back into that menu?
[03:29] <delire> RockyBurt: that's fine. how about restarting your firmware? 'sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart'
[03:29] <sn0n> ah ha.. there we go
[03:30] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: there is a plugin, let me see if i can find the name
[03:30] <mwright1> delire: no I'm trying to help a guy get from an existing firewall he has ssh'd into
[03:30] <Pickle_Weasel> thank you nalioth ^.^
[03:30] <mwright1> to his LTSP that is internal
[03:30] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: "nautilus-open-terminal-0.4"
[03:30] <RockyBurt> delire: ok, just restarted that... still not seeing anything with iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:30] <fortran01> Toma-: doesnt work, is there a minimum time?
[03:30] <delire> mwright1: well use that firewall's interface/method to write a rule.
[03:31] <mwright1> He is getting no route to host when he tries ssh <IP_ADDRESS>, he is on <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:32] <delire> mwright1: use a non-standard port. '/usr/sbin/sshd -p 2111' on the host. connect with 'ssh -p 2111 yourfriend@hisAddr'
[03:33] <delire> mwright1: note you might want to stop sshd first..
[03:33] <delire> RockyBurt: what nic?
[03:34] <RockyBurt> delire: this is a broadcom integrated thing on my dell latitude d800
[03:34] <AngryParsley> ERROR: Your disk has bad sectors (manufacturing faults or dying disk).
[03:34] <AngryParsley> that is great
[03:35] <AngryParsley> oh well, I'll back up everything important and try ntfsresize anyway
[03:35] <nalioth> AngryParsley: install "smartmontools"
[03:35] <sker0> ol
[03:35] <AngryParsley> nalioth: ntfsresize reported that error
[03:35] <AngryParsley> my linux drive is fine
[03:35] <sker0> Algum aqui fala portugus
[03:35] <nalioth> sker0: #ubuntu-pt
[03:36] <Gobbla> isnt .br brittain?
[03:36] <nalioth> Gobbla: .uk
[03:36] <zcat[1] > brazil? .uk is the UK..
[03:36] <Gobbla> ah
[03:36] <nalioth> nope, sorry, .gb
[03:37] <AngryParsley> also, I know this drive is dying, but it only has movies on it
[03:37] <delire> RockyBurt: i have no experience with that wifi card.. someone else here will however. have you rebooted since your dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <AngryParsley> a few bad sectors never killed anyone
[03:37] <RockyBurt> delire: yes, but it wasn't a dist-upgrade... was just a regular apt-get upgrade
[03:37] <theblue> Well, yes it did.
[03:37] <delire> Gobbla: *.br == brazil.
[03:37] <RockyBurt> delire: i've rebooted several times in fact
[03:37] <zcat[1] > is there a .gb ?
[03:37] <AngryParsley> unless those sectors contained important software for a life-support machine
[03:38] <zcat[1] > or a nuclear reactor..
[03:38] <zcat[1] > that could kill lots of people
[03:38] <AngryParsley> and it that case it's more like the bad sectors let the patient die
[03:38] <AngryParsley> I guess, but modern reactors limit themselves mechanically
[03:38] <zcat[1] > oh weit, NT isn't certified for running nuclear reactors.
[03:38] <AngryParsley> hehe
[03:38] <delire> RockyBurt: ok, i'm sure the problem is easily resolveable.
[03:39] <zcat[1] > it says so in the EULA!
[03:39] <Ainvar> I am in need of assistance
[03:39] <theblue> Ainvar: What with?
[03:39] <Ainvar> my laptop is dualboot xp and ubuntu 5.10
[03:39] <Ainvar> ubuntu is on reiserfs
[03:39] <Ainvar> and it is complaing about bad inode
[03:39] <Ainvar> how can I tell it to do a reiserfsck on bootup
[03:39] <theblue> Ainvar: Sorry, I've never touched breezy yet, I can't help you.
[03:39] <aurax> any good fax server howto out there?
[03:39] <aurax> with email routing and all
[03:40] <sker0> Algum aqui fala portugus
[03:40] <Ainvar> well is there a way I can tell reiserfsck to run on startup?
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[06:32] <dcell> Is it possible to mount a directory and have the mounted directory behave as /dev/cdrom?
[06:33] <eu_neke> dcell: what do you mean by that?
[06:33] <PassionLim> And the key to adjust brightness doesn't work after upgrading breezy from hoary. My laptop is samsung X05. I don't know whether setting is wrong or breezy doesn't support my laptop.
[06:34] <mshade> How stable is the Breezy preview release?
[06:34] <dcell> eu_neke, I have a directory that has dvd files in it (vob) and I would like to have mplayer see that directory like a dvd drive
[06:34] <kurtbec> what is the command to find out which package a file belongs too?
[06:35] <eu_neke> dcell: you should be able to tell mplayer to play a "DVD" from a directory. I can't remember off the top of my head how to do so though
[06:35] <crimsun> dpkg -S somefile
[06:35] <crimsun> kurtbec: otherwise use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <dcell> eu_neke, okay.  I will try that then.  Thanks.
[06:35] <kurtbec> crimsun: thanks for the tip!
[06:36] <tzapachuau> can someone suggest a good movie player
[06:36] <Baz> Hello
[06:36] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: I always used to use xine, but I hear vlc is good too
[06:36] <_jason> tzapachuau:  I like totem-xine and mplayer
[06:36] <kurtbec> tzapachuau: i've always been fond of zine
[06:36] <PassionLim> I'm using totem. It's enough to see a movie.
[06:36] <Bazkaz> Are you all using Ubuntu?
[06:36] <tzapachuau> vlc is not good
[06:36] <tzapachuau> does not support Esound
[06:36] <snausages> yes it is
[06:37] <snausages> vlc is great
[06:37] <PassionLim> yeap.. I'm using Ubuntu. :)
[06:37] <kurtbec> xine or mplayer are both good.
[06:37] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: I think you'll find that it is ESD that is not good =P
[06:37] <snausages> mplayer crashes all the time
[06:37] <tzapachuau> can we get mplayet through aptget
[06:37] <tzapachuau> lol
[06:37] <AngryParsley> vlc is buggy as hell on my system, but it's the only thing that let's me change A/V sync
[06:37] <_jason> !tell tzapachuau about mpalyer
[06:37] <_jason> bah
[06:37] <mshade> xine crashes all the time on my system
[06:37] <_jason> !tell tzapachuau about mplayer
[06:37] <Bazkaz> Passion: I can connect to IRC (obviously) but the internet in firefox wont pull up
[06:37] <mshade> mplayer tends to be stable as all get out
[06:37] <AngryParsley> totem works fine, but doesn't have much in the way of config stuff
[06:37] <Bazkaz> any ideas?
[06:37] <PassionLim> totem sometimes crash when embeded in the firefox..
[06:38] <snausages> mplayer is, mkoy
[06:38] <snausages> err
[06:38] <snausages> mplayer is BAD, mkoy
[06:38] <snausages> ^_^
[06:38] <ratte_> chromium:
[06:38] <ratte_>  Hngt ab: libsmpeg0 aber es wird nicht installiert
[06:38] <ratte_>  Hngt ab: chromium-data aber es wird nicht installiert
[06:38] <eu_neke> dcell: mplayer -dvd-device <directory> dvd://<whatever>
[06:38] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, type about:config
[06:38] <ratte_> what does mean?
[06:38] <Bazkaz> about:config
[06:38] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, in firefox
[06:38] <tzapachuau> My VLC player does not output a sound
[06:38] <tzapachuau> lol
[06:38] <Bazkaz> ahh hehe =)
[06:38] <tzapachuau> i have changed all the output settings
[06:38] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, network.dns.disableIPv6 find this & double click it to disable it
[06:38] <snausages> tzapachuau turn up the volume
[06:39] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, then restart firefox & see if it will surf
[06:39] <kurtbec> nice to see they got amarok 1.3 in breezy :-)
[06:39] <Bazkaz> ok I'll try that
[06:39] <tzapachuau> lol snausages the volume it turned up
[06:39] <snausages> hehe
[06:39] <tzapachuau> infact i have kept it at the max
[06:39] <VR^> mhm
[06:39] <crimsun> kurtbec: 1.3.1+most important fix from 1.3.2
[06:40] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: try killing esd then launching vlc, you hould get audio then =P
[06:40] <tzapachuau> what output sound do u suggest
[06:40] <crimsun> eu_neke: probably better to recommend installing vlc-plugin-esd
[06:40] <tzapachuau> i have only oss
[06:40] <tzapachuau> in my option
[06:40] <eu_neke> crimsun: yes, but I like avoiding esd.
[06:40] <tzapachuau> oss and dummy and file
[06:41] <eu_neke> tzapachuau: try what crimsun just suggested.
[06:41] <Bazkaz> WhiteRabbit, It works! Thanks
[06:42] <tzapachuau> that would be great
[06:42] <tzapachuau> thanks alot
[06:42] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, you have a router firewall in your modem or a sep router
[06:42] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, & the ipv6 packets were resizing the windows once it hit the router & timing the port 80 connections out!
[06:42] <mahangu> i cant seem to find mplayer on the repos
[06:42] <mahangu> and totem doesnt play .wmv
[06:42] <mahangu> what can i do?
[06:42] <tzapachuau> brb
[06:42] <crimsun> mahangu: multiverse, and you need w32codecs
[06:43] <Bazkaz> Ahh good call. Thanks again.
[06:43] <eu_neke> mahangu: or build from source  =P
[06:43] <philc> synergy rocks my world
[06:43] <mahangu> crimsun, how can i do that?
[06:43] <mahangu> what's the repo, and how do i get w32 codecs?
[06:43] <crimsun> mahangu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <Bazkaz> While I'm at it I've got another n00b question. How can I see my other hard drive?
[06:44] <crimsun> !tell mahangu about repos
[06:44] <mahangu> bakaz, you have to mount it
[06:44] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, is it ntfs?
[06:44] <Bazkaz> yes
[06:44] <WhiteRabbit> !ntfs
[06:44] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[06:44] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, read that link
[06:45] <Bazkaz> sweet.
[06:45] <WhiteRabbit> Bazkaz, wait til you get our bill!
[06:45] <WhiteRabbit> j/k
[06:45] <eu_neke> jeff_: welcome back. how'd the wifi go?
[06:45] <Bazkaz> hehe
[06:47] <yoink> !tell yoink about fat32
[06:50] <Bazkaz> If I'm running a live version of Ubuntu and I restart do I have to "re-install" the live version?
[06:50] <crimsun> yes, it will "re-install" itself
[06:50] <K^Holtz> i thought u coudl only read NTFS drives? is that true?
[06:50] <bob2> correct
[06:50] <bob2> unless you use captive-ntfs
[06:50] <Bazkaz> thx crimsun
[06:51] <Bazkaz> Will I get to reset my root password if I restart?
[06:51] <bob2> it loses all state
[06:51] <K^Holtz> so basicaly my 320 GB ext HDD would be worthless in a linux environment
[06:51] <K^Holtz> unless i converted it to FAT, but then i have the transfer size issue.. right?
[06:51] <crimsun> Bazkaz: there is no root password on the live cd, either
[06:52] <din> gn
[06:52] <whyameye> when I click on .mp4 files I get a security warning asking me if I want to proceed? How can I get rid of this warning? It is messing up my ooimpress presentation.
[06:52] <Bazkaz> it asked me to set one, but now doesn't recognize when it asks me for a password
[06:52] <Razor-X> K^Holtz: unless you repartition, or use captive-ntfs, then yeah
[06:52] <K^Holtz> what is captive-ntfs? should i google it?
[06:53] <Razor-X> K^Holtz: unfortunately, you have to recompile the kernel for captive, last time I checked
[06:53] <K^Holtz> not worth it
[06:53] <Razor-X> K^Holtz: yeah, I know
[06:54] <crimsun> Bazkaz: hmm? the live cds don't ask for a root password to be set
[06:54] <whyameye> you can just mount with captive-ntfs in Hoary.
[06:54] <Razor-X> whyameye: I googled last time (and that was months ago, though), and found that you need to recompile
[06:54] <Bazkaz> Crimsun: Really? It asked me to set a root password and then told me I needed to create a user account (which it did for me,but didn't ask me for a name or pw)
[06:55] <whyameye> well, I've mounted an ntfs drive using captive...
[06:55] <Razor-X> hmmm....
[06:55] <K^Holtz> so could someone give me a rundown of what i would have to do to get my NTFS hard drive working?
[06:55] <crimsun> Bazkaz: well, your user has sudo access, so you can reset the root passwd that way
[06:55] <K^Holtz> just download captive, and type a command.. and it works?
[06:55] <K^Holtz> (provided you dont recompile)
[06:56] <whyameye> the biggest pain about captive is that you need the windows NTFS driver...which you need to get from a Windows OS. I know XP SP1 works and XP SP2 doesn't.
[06:56] <Razor-X> whyameye: I never updated to SP2
[06:56] <whyameye> captive will look for the driver on your drive, I believe.
[06:56] <Razor-X> so, i'm done
[06:56] <whyameye> then you are in luck!
[06:56] <K^Holtz> well.. wouldnt that have come w/ the installation cd of the HDD?
[06:56] <Razor-X> whyameye: if that's true, then, I'll set up captive on my own
[06:56] <Razor-X> is it in the repos?
[06:56] <whyameye> you might have to help it find the driver.
[06:56] <whyameye> but there are pretty good directions on the web. Can't remember where.
[06:56] <dallas_> anyone good with ATI cards?
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> dallas_, just ask it ... #ubuntu
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> now nike is going to sue me .. hiaz
[06:57] <mahangu> will gxine play wmv with the right codecs?
[06:57] <K^Holtz> wow.. ok, that was a big help.. provided its that simple :)
[06:57] <whyameye> captive is supposed to be slower reading than the ntfs reader built-in. I've never confirmed this.
[06:57] <dallas_> My ATI control panel doesn't detect my card right, I have an X700 it lists the card type as unkown
[06:58] <whyameye> I don't know if you can automate mounting to captive-ntfs. I'm sure there's a way....
[06:58] <K^Holtz> im not that worried about speed... better to have a slow drive than not one at all
[06:58] <mhz> any TFTP person here????
[06:58] <Razor-X> whyameye: hmmm, should I google, or can you point me there?
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> dallas_, ah ... now that is a question more suited to ATI the company ??
[06:58] <Razor-X> and I can script automation, if it's simple enough
[06:58] <bob2> mhz: that's really annoying
[06:58] <bob2> mhz: just ask your question
[06:58] <bz0b> hey guys
[06:59] <bz0b> anyone tell me how i would fix this? $ fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi0:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[06:59] <bz0b> fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi1:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[06:59] <mhz> bob2: why annoying?
[06:59] <Bazkaz> crimsun: any way to reset my user pw?
[06:59] <bob2> mhz: omg!1111
[06:59] <mhz> oh, ok
[06:59] <bob2> mhz: just ask your question, no need for annoying levels of punctuation
[06:59] <tritium> mhz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[06:59] <crimsun> Bazkaz: just set one. There isn't one for 'ubuntu' by default.
[06:59] <dallas_> wickedpuppy, as in ask ATI?
[06:59] <mhz> tritium: I started there 7 hours ago, and i am still stuck here :(
[06:59] <whyameye> Razor-X, I can't remember exactly what I did. I just Googled myself out of curiousity and turned up this. http://www.kruyt.org/?sub_item=46
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> yes ... it seems to be their program can't detect their software
[07:00] <K^Holtz> how are they at getting you your cds on time?.. are they usually faster or slower than the posted amount of weeks?
[07:00] <tritium> sorry, mhz
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> that frankly is out of our hands ??
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, passwd
[07:00] <mhz> tritium: np
[07:00] <bob2> mhz: where did you explain the problem?
[07:00] <Bazkaz> crimsun: I tried, but it asks me to confirm my password first, which it's not recognizing
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, can you sudo then ??
[07:01] <crimsun> Bazkaz: other way. sudo -s, then passwd ubuntu
[07:01] <mhz> bob2: #elive, #ubuntu-laptop, #kubuntu, #debian (the latter 6 hours ago)
[07:01] <bz0b> bob2, do you know what this means? $ fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi0:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[07:01] <bz0b> fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"scsi1:.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'.
[07:02] <bob2> mhz: er
[07:02] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: I'm not totally sure what sudo is, but so far no.
[07:02] <bob2> mhz: presumably you're not having the identical problem on Debian and Ubuntu
[07:02] <Bazkaz> crimsun: tried ubuntu as password and no go
[07:03] <bob2> mhz: there's no tftp to restart, it runs out of inetd
[07:03] <mhz> bob2: I get DHCP right, but when it comes to TFTP.. it times out and reboots to windows :(
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> !sudo
[07:03] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:03] <bob2> mhz: and you still don't seem to have explained what isnt working
[07:03] <bob2> bz0b: sounds like you're doing something odd in wine
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, pls read the link that ubotu shows
[07:03] <mahangu> bob2, how can i check which processes are using my sound car
[07:03] <mahangu> *d
[07:03] <mahangu> i want to kill them
[07:03] <mahangu> xmms wont play
[07:03] <Bazkaz> reading it now
[07:03] <bz0b> bob2,  i am trying to run online poker, i even tried cedega
[07:04] <bob2> mahangu: fuser -v /dev/dsp
[07:04] <crimsun> mahangu: make sure XMMS is using the esound output plugin if you haven't changed the audio settings
[07:04] <bob2> bz0b: well, try #winehq or something
[07:04] <mahangu> crimsun, yeah that\s what im using
[07:05] <tzapachuau> is vlc-esd pluggin available through apt-get
[07:05] <mhz> bob2: I have a Fujitsu laptop, thin laptop (no cd nor floppy, not usb booting). I must install linux there, but I have 2 options and both have failed. a) Grub4Nt v.0.4 is broken and I can't find 0.2   b) local netboot fails in TFTP :(
[07:05] <mahangu> bob2, that returns nothing
[07:06] <bob2> mahangu: then nothing is using OSS sound output
[07:06] <mahangu> bah
[07:06] <mahangu> wtf is wrong, wierd
[07:06] <bob2> lots of things could be wrong
[07:06] <bob2> fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[07:06] <mahangu> also, when my wifi drops, i have to reboot for it to connect agian
[07:06] <bob2> does 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' make sound? etc
[07:06] <mahangu> i do /etc/init.d/networking restart, iwconfig, ifup eth0 etc
[07:07] <mahangu> bob2, dev/dsp no such device
[07:07] <dallas_> anyone have any ideas on my ATI control panel not picking my card up right?
[07:07] <crimsun> mahangu: that leading '/' is important
[07:07] <ezequiel> hola gente
[07:08] <mhz> hola
[07:08] <ezequiel> tengo un problema con firefox
[07:08] <tritium> ezequiel, #ubuntu-es, por favor
[07:08] <ezequiel> oks
[07:08] <ezequiel> no la tengo muy clara
[07:08] <ezequiel> gracias
[07:08] <mhz> tritium: good spanish you have
[07:08] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: Ok I read it. I tried adding a new sudo user, but it wants my password first. Anyway to reset my current user password?
[07:08] <tritium> mhz, heh, thanks.  I'd hope so, living in New Mexico ;)
[07:08] <mhz> LOL
[07:09] <MFen> how do i officially register my vote that the next (yet-unnamed) ubuntu release be called Clumsy Clawshrimp?
[07:10] <mahangu> crimsun, thanks!
[07:10] <bob2> MFen: you buy mark a big jug of beer
[07:10] <mahangu> it beeped my ass of :)
[07:10] <bob2> and make him drink it
[07:10] <mahangu> ok so what's wrong?
[07:10] <bob2> then make him send an email to the devel list about it
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, you don't have tp add a new sudo user
[07:10] <dooglus> MFen: get in line.  I already requested "Unhelpful Unicorn" and "Deceitful Dodo" for the next 2 releases
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> you are already in sudo user group
[07:11] <MFen> but Clawshrimp has /cred/, man.
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> thats how ubuntu is set up
[07:11] <MFen> it says "i'm street. i read penny arcade."
[07:11] <MFen> or whatever.
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> you don't touch root ... you do everything through sudo
[07:12] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: Ok. So am I out of luck since it's not recognizing the password it keeps asking me for in sudo?
[07:12] <mahangu> bob2, it beeped
[07:12] <MFen> wickedpuppy: you could argue that using sudo involves touching root. but consensually.
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> lol ... touching root indirectly .. sure ... not directly .. and only root can add sudo users so its much safer
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, if your current pass is screwed ... i suggest you reboot at at the boot prompt type "linux single"
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> oh and pls check again for caps lock and such
[07:14] <Bazkaz> what will linux single do?
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> it will drop you into single user shell ... meaning root shell ..
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> google for more info on what to do when root pass is lost
[07:15] <Bazkaz> wickedpuppy: since I'm running off live CD can I avoid problems if I use the other install CD to install ubuntu on my hard drive?
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> you are running live cd ?
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> ...
[07:16] <Bazkaz> yes
[07:16] <Bazkaz> sorry I thought you knew
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> and you lost your password ??
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> forgive me but i don't remember live cd asking me to set any password
[07:16] <Bazkaz> well I didn't lose it, it just isn't recognized when I enter it
[07:17] <bob2> it doesnt have one
[07:17] <bob2> unless you set it
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> lol
[07:17] <Bazkaz> which I did, because that's what it suggested.
[07:17] <Bazkaz> bad move I guess?
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> it suggested ??
[07:17] <Bazkaz> I entered it twice to confirm and now it doesn't take it as the password.
[07:18] <bob2> "doesn't take it"?
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> Bazkaz, just reboot .. live cd doesn't store anything
[07:18] <Bazkaz> Yeah on the install. It gave me the option of entering a password and told me it was better for me to.
[07:18] <Bazkaz> ok
[07:18] <Bazkaz> Sorry for the confusion
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> ? now live cd has this option ?
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> wow ...
[07:18] <bob2> Bazkaz: what?
[07:19] <bob2> Bazkaz: you need to tell us in what way it is not accepting your password
[07:20] <Bazkaz> bob2: it asks for my password when I try to change the date, do sudo stuff in terminal... and when i enter the password it says incorrent password. Lets me try 3 times and then takes me back to terminal prompt
[07:21] <dallas_> Anyone got any ideas on my ATI control panel not detecting my card right?
[07:21] <mhz> Bazkaz: are you using your password ??
[07:21] <Bazkaz> I'm going to restart now. I'll be back... let you know what happens.
[07:22] <Bazkaz> mhz: i tried, but it doesn't recognize it
[07:22] <mhz> are you sure not using CAPS
[07:23] <Bazkaz> yup no caps
[07:24] <Bazkaz> BRB
[07:25] <breakthestate> anyone got any recommendations for a laptop wireless pci card to work out of the box with breezy?
[07:25] <tritium> breakthestate, ipw2200 support is great
[07:25] <bob2> prism or intel or atheros
[07:26] <breakthestate> tritium is that a chipset?
[07:26] <tritium> breakthestate, yes