[11:50] <mamarley> ricotz: 352.79 is out and I am working on it.
[11:50] <mamarley> tseliot: How close are you to being ready with the prime EGL stuff?
[11:56] <tseliot> mamarley: I have the code, I'm testing it today
[11:56]  * tseliot -> lunch
[11:57] <mamarley> Great!
[11:59] <ricotz> mamarley, great, thanks ( you are not giving much of a chance to do it ;) )
[12:00]  * mamarley is trying to prove that he can actually do this without committing hundreds of mistakes each time. :)
[12:45] <mamarley> ricotz: All the 352 builds (including nvidia-settings 352 for Precise) are now in https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages.
[12:46] <mamarley> I also have an update for 361.18 for all the distro versions.  For everything but Xenial, it removes the nvidia EGL alternative since that is only going to be supported on Xenial.  For Xenial, it has an update to the Prime ld.so.conf that is necessary to make tseliot's upcoming changes work properly.
[17:18] <tseliot> mamarley: it looks like nvidia-361 dropped support for my GPU? [    24.767] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[17:19] <tseliot> that happens after (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  361.18  Sat Jan  9 20:41:31 PST 2016
[17:19] <tseliot> which means my hybrid system is kind of useless now
[17:19] <tseliot> sigh
[17:21] <tseliot> except 1140 is listed as supported
[17:22] <tseliot> mamarley: I'll take that back, there must be something wrong with gpu-manager
[18:49] <tseliot> mamarley: everything seems to work now :) . I'll test it more tomorrow.


[07:35] <nikolam> I don't like my every search on help.ubuntu.com going to the google's hands :(
[07:35] <nikolam> It should be avoided and use somethin in-house.
[07:37] <bazhang> nikolam, so learn to use the bot in /msg
[07:38] <ObrienDave> !ubottu
[07:38] <bazhang> nikolam, is  a PRIV MSG with the bot "in-house" enough for You?
[07:40] <ObrienDave> !42
[07:41] <bazhang> ubottu, shaddap!
[07:41] <nikolam> bazhang, it is very nice. but  I need to point people to the solution fast. And using google on help.ubuntu.com goes against everyone's privacy.
[07:41] <nikolam> i'll try ubottu
[07:41] <bazhang> nikolam, its the very best. and there is nothing faster.
[07:42] <ObrienDave> bazhang, lmao :))
[09:40] <aziz> Hi everyone! Does somebody here own an MSI notebook from the GP60 series? How is your experience with it and Linux?
[10:52] <floyy> hello
[10:52] <floyy> I have problems with my sound
[10:53] <floyy> what should I check..
[10:53] <floyy> it's little bit quiet when I volume it up
[10:55] <ngomes> hello, brainwash , u there ?
[10:55] <ngomes> got a bug to report
[10:55] <ngomes> well, i think it is
[10:56] <knome> ngomes, then report it on launchpad
[10:57] <ngomes> update-manager told me i had 79 upgrades to make , i did ... "computer is up to date" appear ... 1 minute later it tells me i have more 3 updates to make but i cant update by network manager it always tell me "computer is up to date". running apt-get upgrade showed me the 3 upgrades i had
[10:58] <ngomes> knome, launchpad is an aplication or a website ?
[10:58] <xubuntu232> Hi
[10:59] <baizon> ngomes: website
[10:59] <ngomes> ok
[11:00] <knome> ngomes, bug 1224784
[11:01] <xubuntu232> I still have a few questions
[11:02] <knome> !ask | xubuntu232
[11:02] <xubuntu232> I know what a meta question is...just wanted to be nice and good instead of just shooting out my noob questions :/
[11:03] <knome> xubuntu232, no problem, but feel free to jusk ask
[11:04] <ngomes> knome, so its known , i dont need to report , right
[11:05] <knome> ngomes, that's right
[11:05] <ngomes> but mine is a little different
[11:05] <ngomes> it updates X then tells me there's more Y
[11:05] <knome> in what way?
[11:05] <xubuntu232> 1. I was wondering what the desktop thingy is called which is like a task manager and shows you your cpu power and temperature. the one which is embedded into the wallpaper
[11:05] <ngomes> but fails to update Y , but with apt-get upgrade , it does
[11:06] <knome> xubuntu232, conky
[11:06] <xubuntu232> which is working on xfce?
[11:06] <knome> xubuntu232, it's an additional package
[11:06] <ngomes> conky ?
[11:07] <knome> ngomes, which version are you running?
[11:07] <ngomes> 13.04
[11:07] <knome> ngomes, i think what you're having is that bug, the rest of it is normal
[11:08] <ngomes> ok fine
[11:08] <ngomes> thanks for your help
[11:08] <knome> no problem
[11:08] <xubuntu232> 2. transmission is just a torrent client? I need something for easy sharing with other ppl. I dont have dropbox or so. any suggestions? small ftp?
[11:08] <knome> xubuntu232, yes, transmission is just a torrent client.
[11:09] <ngomes> xubuntu232, share with lan or share with internet ?
[11:09] <xubuntu232> over the internet unfortunately
[11:09] <ngomes> yeah ftp or sftp will do
[11:10] <knome> dropbox or other similar services might be better, depending how much and how often you need to share files
[11:10] <knome> (or how big)
[11:10] <xubuntu232> but that's not rocket science to configure a sftp server? I always need port forwarding in my router?
[11:10] <ngomes> xubuntu232, few days ago i saw a tutorial how to make an ftp server with openssh , does it interest you ?
[11:11] <knome> it's not the most trivial of tasks, but there are tutorials. and yes, you'll need port forwarding
[11:11] <xubuntu232> they are not that big or not that often but friends use trillian or icq and I have pidgin -> no file transfer possible -.-
[11:11] <knome> xubuntu232, how's email?
[11:11] <xubuntu232> not everybody has a good provider which allows bigger attachment
[11:12] <knome> i imagine dropbox or such services might be good fit for you then
[11:12] <ngomes> xubuntu232, here's the tutorial i saw -> http://xmodulo.com/2013/06/how-to-set-up-secure-sftp-server-in-linux.html
[11:12] <knome> (s)ftp server might be a bit overkill, but that's of course up to you
[11:13] <xubuntu232> I dont like having my stuff on the internet. especially when it's an american company
[11:13] <ngomes> yeah , can be ftp with vsftp daemon
[11:13] <knome> xubuntu232, then you probably should set up an sftp server. as i said, it's up to your needs
[11:13] <xubuntu232> well..my friends are not really into computers so as long as they can access (s)ftp over their browser and use a guest login ..that would be enough
[11:14] <ngomes> i dont know about the browser ... but they can use filezilla , an ftp client ... ?
[11:14] <ngomes> this filezilla client available on windows and linux
[11:15] <xubuntu232> uhm..every major browser can handle ftp (afair)
[11:15] <ngomes> he told (s)ftp
[11:16] <ngomes> ops
[11:16] <ngomes> yes
[11:16] <ngomes> correct , every major browser can handle ftp
[11:17] <ngomes> well , gotta go , good work with it
[11:17] <xubuntu232> thanks _^
[11:17] <xubuntu232> ^_^
[11:26] <xubuntu232> uhm...where is my conky :/
[11:28] <xubuntu232> conky is installed. Do I need to get into my desktop settings?
[11:30] <xubuntu232> ah..just start it in the terminal
[11:36] <xubuntu232> conkey's manpage feels like never ending story :D
[11:48] <bullgard4> xubuntu232: You better claim that to the mailing list so it can be dealt with in due time.
[11:49] <bullgard4> Or even better to Launchpad.
[11:49] <xubuntu232> bullgard4: oh no.maybe it's a bit big for starters but it gives you so many options. I just need to find the one I need
[11:49] <knome> bullgard4, the conky man page? it's not installed by default and it's not essential, so no action will be taken regarding that anyway
[11:50] <bullgard4> knome: A manpage is an essential part of any Linux program.
[11:51] <knome> bullgard4, yes, and an exhaustive one exists for conky.
[11:51] <knome> bullgard4, i don't think it would make much sense if the manpage didn't list all the options
[11:52] <bullgard4> Right. - No worries.
[15:47] <linux_newbie> Hello guys!
[15:47] <linux_newbie> Please, I need help ...
[15:47] <linux_newbie> I downloaded the lasted version xbuntu ...
[15:47] <linux_newbie> but, I can change the screen resolution ...
[15:47] <linux_newbie> I can't*
[15:48] <linux_newbie> Where are the configuration file of X in the Xbuntu?
[15:48] <linux_newbie> How I can add a new screen resolution mode?
[15:53] <linux_newbie> Hello guys
[15:54] <bgardner> linux_newbie: Have you tried Settings->Display?
[15:58] <linux_newbie> bgardner: yes
[15:58] <linux_newbie> but I don't have the option to change ...
[15:59] <linux_newbie> I've just 1024x768 ... but my screen monitor is 1900x1200
[16:00] <linux_newbie> I'm in the directory: /etc/X11 ...
[16:00] <bgardner> linux_newbie: What is your video card?  Are you 100% certain it can output at the full resolution that the monitor can accept?
[16:02] <linux_newbie> is a Virtual Machine ...
[16:02] <bgardner> linux_newbie: Probably should have led with that.
[16:03] <bgardner> linux_newbie: So you installed Xubuntu 13.04 in a VM and now you want to increase the display resolution, is that correct?
[16:03] <linux_newbie> VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[16:03] <linux_newbie> yes, correct
[16:04] <linux_newbie> can I create a new xorg.conf and move to /etc/X11 ?
[16:05] <bgardner> linux_newbie: I'm afraid I don't have any experience with a Linux guest on a VM, only as a host.  Perhaps others here can assist.
[16:05] <bgardner> linux_newbie: You can, but that's not to say that you should.
[16:05] <linux_newbie> bgardner, ok
[16:05] <linux_newbie> thank you for your help
[16:06] <bgardner> linux_newbie: Certainly, good luck.  Sorry I can't do more for you.
[16:06] <linux_newbie> bgardener: no problem, thanks any way ...
[16:08] <elfy> linux_newbie: you'll need to install Guest Additions
[16:08] <elfy> then you'll be able to get other resolutions
[16:09] <elfy> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html
[16:10] <GridCube> linux_newbie, you need to install the vbox addons
[16:22] <bufalo1973> hello
[16:23] <bgardner> !hi | bufalo1973
[16:59] <Pwnna> is it possible to map something like awesome wm into CTRL+ALT+F8 while having the xfce default still in CTRL+ALT+F7
[17:02] <bgardner> Pwnna: Yes... although not sure why you would want to.
[17:02] <Pwnna> well i want my regular window manager
[17:03] <Pwnna> right now what i'm doing is i'm coding in tty1
[17:03] <Pwnna> but i need to switch back occasionally
[17:03] <Pwnna> as i like my regular window manager. for non-coding i would not really want to use something like awesome, or tty1
[17:05] <bgardner> Pwnna: Well, whatever your reasons you can start a new X instance on display :1 and set it up on vtty8 or whatever.  Let me see if I can find you a HOWTO for that.
[17:07] <Pwnna> yeah. idk where that is
[17:07] <Pwnna> the tutorials/docs
[17:07] <bgardner> Pwnna: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14873/how-to-run-multiple-user-x-sessions-on-the-same-computer-at-the-same-time#14874
[17:07] <Pwnna> that's what i'm trying
[17:07] <Pwnna> is there a way to reload the window managers installed?
[17:07] <Pwnna> i don't want to reboot as i'm compiling..
[17:08] <bgardner> Pwnna: No idea.  You are pretty far off topic from the standard #xubuntu info you can expect, I'm afraid.
[17:09] <Pwnna> yeah. probably
[17:13] <Pwnna> well thanks, bgardner
[17:13] <bgardner> Pwnna: Certainly, good luck
[18:21] <xubuntu669> Ciao a tutti
[18:21] <bgardner> !it | xubuntu669
[18:22] <xubuntu669> sorry!
[18:23] <GridCube> xubuntu669, :) don't worry
[18:27] <xubuntu669> Hello, in italian chat nobody answer my question... can you help me?
[18:28] <bgardner> xubuntu669: We can sure try
[18:28] <xubuntu669> i need a suggest
[18:29] <xubuntu669> i've a very old notebook with 480 mb ram and Celeron M Processor  1.4 (Acer Travel Mate 2312)
[18:29] <xubuntu669> i need to install Xubuntu o Lubuntu?
[18:30] <xubuntu669> i think lubuntu is too minimal, isn't it?
[18:31] <bgardner> xubuntu669: Honestly, 480Mb is below the minimum recommended RAM for both Xubuntu and Lubuntu.
[18:32] <bgardner> xubuntu669: What do you intend to use this machine for?
[18:33] <xubuntu669> office application, internet
[18:34] <xubuntu669> my friends suggest me vector light....is more light than xubuntu?
[18:34] <bazhang> I doubt office apps will run in that
[18:35] <xubuntu669> libre office?
[18:35] <bgardner> xubuntu669: I agree with bazhang - it likely doesn't matter which you run (Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc) when Libreoffice is going to struggle in that amount of RAM.
[18:35] <bazhang> and a browser? a command line could work
[18:35] <bazhang> I doubt it will even open
[18:36] <bazhang> the actual distro makes no difference; no modern day browser/office suite will run on that amount of ram
[18:37] <xubuntu669> actually i use this notebook with win xp ice version with office 2003...firefox
[18:38] <bazhang> what is "ice version"
[18:38] <xubuntu669> a light version of win xp
[18:38] <bekks> xubuntu669: Thats not an official version.
[18:38] <bazhang> thats very hard to believe
[18:39] <xubuntu669> i'm chatting with u now
[18:39] <bazhang> office is not exactly lean on the ram usage
[18:39] <bazhang> sure, irssi and screen with links or other cli browser would be doable
[18:40] <bekks> xubuntu669: Doesnt matter - "win xp ice" is not an official XP version.
[18:40] <Unit193> Abiword and gnumeric are default, not as heavy as libreoffice.
[18:40] <xubuntu669> but are compatible with office suite?
[18:40] <bazhang> sure, but even then it would be for all intents and purposes unusable
[18:41] <Unit193> Some try that little ram with Lubuntu, but I'd personally use antix or plain ol' Debian.  You can try the mini.iso for the same effect, though.
[18:41] <bazhang> unless you enjoy very slow "mono-tasking"
[18:41] <bekks> xubuntu669: Ask Microsoft, if some unofficial XP release is compatible with their software.
[18:41] <xubuntu669> and?
[18:42] <bazhang> I doubt any gui browser would even launch successfully
[18:42] <xubuntu669> ok thank's
[18:43] <Unit193> bazhang: Firefox and chromium wouldn't, but midori or xombrero have higher luck.
[18:44] <bazhang> Unit193, very good point
[18:44] <bazhang> an office suite though? thats what I doubt seriously
[18:45] <Unit193> Well, libreoffice and openoffice are more compatible, but abi and 'meric are much less resource intensive, still not sure how well it'd go though.
[18:46] <bekks> abiword and gnumeric arent compatible with everything else, nor that capable.
[18:47] <Unit193> Quite true.
[18:47] <bekks> So I'd not us'em.
[18:48] <bazhang> heh he quit


[00:00] <rww> freenode has always been run by trolls, kthx.
[00:00] <IdleOne> not according to the whois output I have
[00:00] <IdleOne> I keep reaching for my empty cup :(
[00:00] <IdleOne> maybe I need to fill it
[00:45] <IdleOne> !away > Wilcon_afk
[01:15] <ldunn> ugh. Let me go fix that.
[04:38] <PerfM> Last time I'll be in here today, PROMISE
[04:40] <PerfM> Omg!
[04:40] <PerfM> I was typing!
[04:41] <IdleOne> PerfM: this is getting boring. what are you going to pretend to need now?
[04:41] <PerfM> I agree, this is getting tiring.
[04:41] <PerfM> rww is dealing so hang ten, and we'll see if he can get the job one
[04:41] <PerfM> done*
[04:41] <rww> IdleOne: Given that PerfM recently PMed me the entirely-reasonable question "am I supposed to be banned from #ubuntu-offtopic?", I suggest that autokicking her is a bit premature.
[04:42] <PerfM> ^
[04:42] <PerfM> HAHA
[04:42] <PerfM> PerfM-1 IdleOne-0
[04:42] <IdleOne> next time I suggest you come in with " Hi, I'm here at rww's request"
[04:42] <PerfM> IdleOne, next time you should kick me ;)
[04:42] <rww> IdleOne: she isn't here at my request. I suggest you catalyze better. Or at all.
[04:42] <PerfM> shouldn't**
[04:43] <rww> PerfM: yes, you're banned by PerfieM!*@*. I'll add your current nick to the list so you don't accidentally join.
[04:43] <PerfM> ^
[04:43] <PerfM> cool bean, you might wanna do the same to the women's channel too
[04:43] <PerfM> beans*, it's to late to spell
[04:43] <IdleOne> my apologies for having removed you but after the 3-4 time today.
[04:44] <PerfM> or infact all the #ubuntu channels.
[04:44] <PerfM> IdleOne, we all make mistakes
[04:44] <PerfM> thanks rww!
[04:44] <PerfM> night team!
[04:44] <rww> PerfM: done. I think #ubuntu already had both.
[04:44] <PerfM> lol okaaay
[04:45] <rww> IdleOne: If she shouldn't be in here, ban her. If she should, at least pretend to be professional :P

[04:50] <elky> Did she just ask for a namespace ban?
[04:51] <IdleOne> She did.
[07:19] <elky> ubuntu.com does indeed appear down.
[07:20] <ikonia> nice to know it's a drupal site
[07:20] <elky> i already knew that bit
[07:20] <ikonia> I don't actually care really
[07:20] <Myrtti> yeah old news
[07:20] <ikonia> just surprised, it's a bit of a sloppy thing to do, not change the maintenance page
[07:20] <Flannel> Apparently Ubuntu is switching to Kubuntu, just look at the blue!
[07:21] <ikonia> Flannel: well done on starting a rumour
[07:21] <ikonia> give it 5 minutes and vibhav will be announcing it as fact
[07:21] <Myrtti> or 39 minutes
[07:21] <Flannel> ikonia: Gotta wait for the logs to tick over first
[07:21] <Myrtti> +1
[07:22] <rww> obviously my irritating complaining about its front page took effect and they've taken it down to appease me
[07:22] <rww> OBVIOUSLY
[07:22] <elky> looks like the database fell over
[07:22] <Flannel> rww: I'm happy for you.
[07:23] <Flannel> rww: Now, what shall we make you complain about next?
[07:23] <rww> Flannel: everything else
[07:23] <elky> rww, the fact that it's down, perhaps?
[07:24] <rww> quick, find a way in which drupal is non-free so i can complain it's not using wordpress
[07:24] <Flannel> rww: lefthand close buttons? dselect being gone? no more CLI tools by default? the potential list is endless!
[07:24] <rww> or maybe they're moving the pages around again so i can complain about broken links again
[07:24] <rww> Flannel: dselect was awful
[07:24] <Flannel> rww: This time they broke *all* the links!
[07:25] <Flannel> ubuntu.com has been rerouted to a random other domain, good luck findin it!
[07:27] <rww> Microsoft bought Canonical and are shutting Ubuntu down, obviously
[07:27] <Flannel> oh goody.  At least hyperthreading will work now.
[07:27] <Tm_T> uh hey, I thought you were talking about ubottu.com, not ubuntu.com ...
[07:28] <rww> Flannel: hyperthreading doesn't work?
[07:29] <Flannel> rww: No, I haven't been able to get it to work since Breezy.
[07:29] <Flannel> Every time I upgrade I spend a few hours with it before giving up again.
[07:30] <rww> what
[07:30] <rww> HT works fine on Linux, what are you talking about ;(
[07:32] <Flannel> It works on Linux, it doesn't work on my machine, for whatever reason.  -smp kernel or non (well, obviously I stopped trying -smp kernels once we stopped making them)
[07:32] <popey> Flannel: what cpu?
[07:34] <Flannel> Pentium 4... something.  It lists ht in its flags, I'd have to go find the paperwork.  Unless there's some way to tell from cpuinfo (I didn't think family/model/etc were that unique)
[07:35] <ikonia> some vibhav returns to quoting wikipedia at people as if it's his own
[07:35] <ikonia> why will this kid not stop it
[07:40] <rww> Flannel: model name is unique for me
[07:40] <rww> though I'm on Core 2, not P4
[07:41] <popey> Flannel: odd.
[07:42] <Flannel> popey: after spending a few days on it, I just gave up.  It's a server anyway.
[07:42] <popey> heh
[07:47] <rww> ubuntu.com's back up.
[07:47] <rww> my personal cloud is still got bigger.
[07:52] <Tm_T> is still "got bigger" ?
[08:59] <elky> i'm going to guess that he doesn't like the phrasing of the statement
[09:25] <Myrtti> lolhelp
[09:25] <Myrtti> unity in kde?
[09:26] <popey> bastard child of two unwanted desktops ;)
[09:26] <Myrtti> word
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[20:02] <ikonia> hey
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> qq about asking users to "google" stuff
[20:02] <ikonia> ok
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> earlier, A user was asking about updating video drivers on Lucid and I said there was the xorg edgers update ppa
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> so the user requested a link, but i was doing a billion other things, so I advised they websearch it and they would find it
[20:03] <ikonia> (I've been out of the channel for about 15 minutes, thanks to my isp - so I may need context)
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> oCean however thought this was bad and that tyelling users to try and help themselves a little was not to happen
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> despite me pretty much giving them the direction they needed
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> user also managed to find the ppa and add it ok
[20:04] <ikonia> this comes up a fair bit, for me it's two parts
[20:04] <ikonia> 1.) what they are asking and what their limitations are
[20:04] <ikonia> 2.) how you tell them to google it
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> was it bad I told the user to try and use his own initiative - seeing how I had pretty much nailed the answer
[20:04] <ikonia> I have no idea abou the specific example you're talking about, so just apply common sense
[20:05] <ikonia> pushing the user in the right area for google if they obviously know what they are doing but are not quite there seems ok
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> limitations I can accept but I had given the thing they needed so they could find what I was on about and free me up to help others
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> teach a guy to fish etc
[20:05] <ikonia> telling a user you've not got time to search for the page yourself but if they try the phrase Blah it normally comes up is "ok"
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> ocean was very blunt and said I was not to do it
[20:06] <ikonia> but saying "just google it" doesn't
[20:06] <ikonia> the fish tales a bit annoying to be honest
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> i never say that :) I like to give direction so users learn, rather than just handing out URLs
[20:06] <ikonia> I think as long as you apply common sense to give help to suit that user, I don't see an issue
[20:07] <IdleOne> IMO it all depends on the ability of the user, if you can tell the user knows what they are doing and just needed a push in the right direction then yeah I think it is ok.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> ocean said I should join here to discuss it, so I just wanted clarification and such
[20:07] <ikonia> if a user has no idea what's going on and wants to know how to enable time travel in ubuntu, saying "google it" isn't helpful
[20:07] <ikonia> getting them %90 of the way and offering a phrase for the remaining %10 as you're a bit busy is also reasonable
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> that's what I was getting at, but teh user immediately asked for a link, which I find pretty poor
[20:07] <ikonia> I do feel your pain on that
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> i also informed the user the merit of finding ones own guides based on direction, rather than asking for handouts
[20:08] <ikonia> that's not really useful
[20:09] <ikonia> the user probably knew they can google, just couldn't be bothered
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> i'd have to agree
[20:09] <ikonia> a lecture isn't going to help, if you think the users too lazy, don't help
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> but ocean said it was strictly to not happen ever, which I'd disagree with, hence me being here
[20:10] <ikonia> maybe a wording issue ? maybe worth discussing with him personally
[20:10] <ikonia> I don't know the history
[20:10] <ikonia> but for me, just common sense, if your help actually helps the user or acts in the users best interest, I don't see an issue
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> http://pastebin.com/F2V3piBj
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> I am AndChat|   helping Benb
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> there is stuff above asking about how to get newer stuff in Lucid as he wanted to keep LTS but get newer drivers to support his newer hardware
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> oh and add: [17:54] <oCean> AndChat|: let me explain it this way: don't do it again
[20:14] <LjL> ActionParsnip, you came across as if you were snapping. you could've said "sorry i'm on my phone, have difficulty searching but it's easy to find on google" or something
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> I guess :(
[20:14] <ikonia> I suggest you speak to ocean as I'm not getting involved in log quoting
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> hectic and stuff, but yeah coutesy and stuff
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> ok i'll see what I can do, but just wanted a second opinion
[20:15] <ikonia> and that was the common sense bit I was suggesting earlier, just saying you didn't have time to google for them
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: agreed
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> the 'don't do it agin' bit is not appropriate though
[20:16] <ikonia> well, not if he's asking you to not do it again
[20:17] <ikonia> again, don't know the context, but you seem pretty comfotable with it now ?
[20:17] <LjL> ActionParsnip: well i do suggest you discuss it with oCean, he's a reasonable guy
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: oh yeah, I hust hate the whole handout url thing.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> LjL: sometimes, not this time imho
[20:18] <ikonia> I don't like it either.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> thanks for your attention guys :)
[20:18] <LjL> ActionParsnip: best of both worlds, "the URL is http://blah/, by the way i found it by searching for 'foo bar' on google"
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> LjL: I guess but was on my phone which is dog slow on the web unless i'm on 3g :)
[20:19] <LjL> ActionParsnip: yeah i realize that, in that case it's fine not giving the URL, but i was saying the way you worded made it sound more like "meh, don't bother me and search for it yourself!" than "sorry, on phone and can't provide atm"
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> LjL: gotcha, will use that in future
[21:18] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: if there is nothing else please /part
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> sure


 @Wolfenprey, Nope, I just needed to manually run the script.
[07:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGbf9084263cb8: typos in newsletter 10.] Wolfenprey (Tony Cuesta Escobar) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGbf9084263cb8
 cough  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1788797
 But why doesn't SDDM have the support? :P
 @tsimonq2, Why was it assumed it did when making that "fix"?
 Because we assumed it had been. :P
 broken/wrong assummptions = bugs
[15:47] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @wxl my script works now for stretched wallpapers (2 displays environment only). I need to figure out how to do it with fit, centered and zoom. We were thinking in running cron jobs to trigger this script in case the wallpaper was changed, but also need to adress if another monitor has been connected.
[16:59] <wxl> @Hans your cron job should watch for changes to the wallpaper and xrandr for monitor info. should be pretty simple
[17:00] <wxl> @Hans maybe something like `xrandr | grep ' connected ' should be simple enough
[17:02] <wxl> @Hans that should actually give you everything you want since it tells you which is where
[17:02] <wxl> e.g.
[17:02] <wxl> DVI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 320mm
[17:02] <wxl> DVI-1 connected 1920x1080+0+36 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm
[17:03] <wxl> in this case you can see DVI-1 is 36 pixels lower, and is on the left side
[17:09] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> ok, I'm doing xrandr | grep already.
[17:14] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> to get the screen dimensions.
[19:27] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> Which program will manage the "additional drivers"  in lxqt?
[20:52] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @Hans Möller, I just wanted to avoid xrandr, since it takes some time in some machines.
[20:57] <wxl> @Hans i'm not sure if there's another way to do it, but you might check related man pages to xrandr and see if you come up with anything
[21:38] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> ok
[21:40] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> I have 2 question, regarding cosmic in general. 1) Where will be "additional drivers" wheren yo can chose nvidia over nouveau and other drivers in lxqt?
[21:40] <lubot5> 2) Are the repositories for cosmic ok? I have problemas with wine
[21:41] <wxl> well i can tell you that the goal is that the repositories should be good by the time it's released
[21:41] <wxl> meanwhile it might all be messed up :)
[21:42] <wxl> let me figure out the answer to the other question
[21:47] <wxl> right off the bat it seems that `ubuntu-drivers` can do the trick
[21:50] <wxl> ah software-properties-qt is actuallyt he right thing. you can get to it from muon i believe
[21:54] <wxl> seems like it's just sitting and spinning for me though
[21:54] <wxl> let me get a new iso
[21:54] <wxl> i haven't updated in a bit
[22:49] <wxl> @tsimonq2: it seems that opening software sources in muon fails to do anything
[23:00] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> software-properties-qt doesn't appear in the menu, and I can't see an additional driver tab. Only: Ubuntu software, Other software, Actualizaction, Autenticacion, statistics (names mught be different I have it in spanish).
 software-properties-kde/qt never did have the drivers tab IIRC
[23:50] <wxl> @acheronuk: what does k use?
 Same thing.
 The driver functionality is there iirc, just not in its own tab
[23:51] <wxl> huuuuuuh
 kubuntu-driver-manager
 can be launched standalone, or used in KCM in systemsettings
[23:53] <wxl> i guess "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" is the right repo
[23:53] <wxl> so there's not a separate thing to run
[23:53] <wxl> which is nicer, honestly
[23:54] <wxl> well
[23:54] <wxl> no
[23:54] <wxl> because you don't know what drivers are relevant
[23:57] <wxl> looks like we need to get our own tool for that :(