[11:35] <lupine_85> syouth: the codebase is completely different in places. OF course there are going to be differences
[11:36] <tRSS> !pastebin
[11:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:36] <lupine_85> the only way to fix it is to write a universal API and widget set... and that's called (urk) java
[11:36] <thotz> #ubuntu-bugs
[11:36] <yoshiznit123> is there a way to delete the first 3 characters of every line in a file?
[11:37] <AshyIsMe> is there a utility for ubuntu to select the desktop manager?
[11:37] <lupine_85> hang on, udp doesn't have a LISTEN flag
[11:37] <lupine_85> (^tRSS^)
[11:37] <AshyIsMe> like, to choose between gnome/kde ?
[11:37] <syouth> lupine_85: Understandable. If this is FF feature, it should be usable in different platforms. If it is feature from something underneath (GTK or whatever Windows is using), it may differ.
[11:38] <lupine_85> syouth: not necessarily the case
[11:38] <tRSS> lupine_85: pastebin'ed the results at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22902
[11:38] <lupine_85> offtopic anyway, TBH
[11:38] <tRSS> lupine_85: that what I wanted your opinion on, i.e. the missing listen flag!
[11:39] <tourach> yoshiznit123: "% s/^...//" in vim
[11:39] <lupine_85> yes, you don't need the LISTEN flag
[11:39] <tRSS> anyhow, pastebin'ed the results from the netstat command above. URL is ^^^
[11:39] <lupine_85> Is there anything blocking communication? e.g. a firewall? between you and other DNS servers?
[11:40] <tRSS> there is a firewall (which I can't control). But I am assured by my network team that nothing is blocked for tcp/udp 53 port
[11:40] <yoshiznit123> tourach, k thanks
[11:40] <lupine_85> hmm. You might need to specify some forwarders in /etc/bind/named.conf.options
[11:40] <lupine_85> (assuming you have them!)
[11:41] <lupine_85> so there are no useful errors in daemon.log ?
[11:41] <tRSS> aww crap, forgot to check the logs. sorry, let me go through them real quick
[11:44] <lupine_85> You can test UDP network connectivity by running sudo traceroute www.google.co.uk (uses udp)
[11:44] <lupine_85> erm, get rid of the sudo
[11:44] <lupine_85> (was experimenting with p- 53, but doesn't do what we want it to do)
[11:45] <mneptok> arr.
[11:45] <tRSS> lupine_85: results --> traceroute: unknown host www.google.com
[11:45] <mrDaniel> i have evince ans adobe acrobat reader. what i have to do to make acrobat reader the default-pdf-reader?
[11:45] <lupine_85> ah, doh :)
[11:45] <mrDaniel> where i can set file-extension with a specific programm
[11:45] <tRSS> exactly.
[11:45] <lupine_85> try traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:47] <tRSS> traceroute with the ip address seems to be fine. it is getting there.
[11:47] <Zorlac> question: why is my computer detecting my two IDE's as /dev/sdc and /sdd
[11:47] <lupine_85> it's not blocking the IP address then
[11:47] <lupine_85> Zorlac: you've got them plugged into IDE-1
[11:47] <lupine_85> rather than IDE-0
[11:47] <Zorlac> ... no way =O
[11:47] <lupine_85> erm, dns
[11:47] <lupine_85> erm, udp!!!
[11:48] <tRSS> ???
[11:48] <lupine_85> do you have any funny stuff in named.conf.options ?
[11:48] <lupine_85> access control, etc?
[11:48] <Zorlac> I'm almost 100% sure they are in ide-0...
[11:48] <tRSS> i don't have any named.conf.options!
[11:48] <lupine_85> zorlac: your computer is acting as though they aren't...
[11:48] <Zorlac> my computer hates me.
[11:48] <lupine_85> not that it matters
[11:48] <Zorlac> One hard drive and video card later...
[11:50] <rob_p> tRSS, For troubleshooting, you can temporarily put, "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" into your /etc/resolv.conf file and see if you can reach a public DNS...
[11:51] <rob_p> tRSS, Once you put that into your /etc/resolv.conf file, you should be able to do, "dig google.com" and get a resolution.
[11:51] <Losty1981> does anyone know how to make permanent /etc/resolv.conf changes..... mine keeps resetting to a default that doesnt work...    right when I'm halfway through an automatix script....I can't change the dns through the standard GUI.. keeps defaulting to something that doesnt work...its wierd
[11:52] <lupine_85> Losty1981: can you add it to /etc/network/interfaces? e.g. dns-nameserver <blah>
[11:52] <lupine_85> failing that, you could edit the leases file or something I guess
[11:53] <tRSS> rob_p: surprisingly, after editing the resolv.conf for the above changes, I am still getting a connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:53] <lupine_85> "they" must be blocking DNS then...
[11:53] <Losty1981> ill look into that area lupine.... im linux newbie sorry
[11:53] <rob_p> tRSS, Then outbound dns is blocked...
[11:53] <Losty1981> thanks
[11:53] <lupine_85> must get going, anyway
[11:53] <lupine_85> ttfn
[11:54] <tRSS> rob_p: you mean by the service provider?
[11:54] <tRSS> lupine_85: thanks for the help. later
[11:54] <rob_p> tRSS, yes
[11:54] <tRSS> rob_p: now that is something that should be explored, I guess
[11:54] <rob_p> tRSS, either that or your network admin folks have it blocked...
[11:55] <Mocka> Hello
[11:55] <tRSS> rob_p: is there a way to confirm this, may be by crawling from outside (using dnsstuff.com, etc.)
[11:55] <Mocka> I'm looking for a linux distro, I want one where shit is easy to install any suggestions?
[11:55] <rob_p> tRSS, The thing is, your provider shouldn't be blocking it, otherwise you have no way to resolve anything!
[11:55] <brian98> I've googled but can't find anything, anyone with any issues with rdesktop and 100% cpu usage?
[11:56] <tRSS> Mocka: none of the linux distros install shit, so you are out of luck buddy ;)
[11:56] <rob_p> tRSS, ...unless they are trying to, "force" you to use their nameservers or something along those lines...
[11:57] <tRSS> rob_p: i guess you are right. Here goes my weekend for bind!!
[11:57] <rob_p> tRSS, Try this, as a last troubleshooting step.  Use the nameserver of your provider in your /etc/resolv.conf file and see if that works.
[11:57] <Losty1981> lupine....what are leases?? is that something to do with dhcp?
[11:57] <rob_p> tRSS, If that does, then you've nailed it!
[11:58] <mneptok> tRSS: try "telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 53"
[11:58] <tRSS> alright, I will try it after some time, right now, I need a break. but thanks for all your help rob_p. really appreciate it.
[11:58] <rob_p> tRSS, You aren't running a local firewall or anything, right?
[11:58] <tRSS> nope
[11:59] <rob_p> tRSS, Ok then... good luck with it.
[11:59] <tRSS> thanks :)
[11:59] <mneptok> brb
[11:59] <liquidangle> ubuntu is taking over ?
[11:59] <liquidangle> the world hehe
[11:59] <highvoltage> depending on your definition of 'taking over'
[12:00] <liquidangle> gaining user :)
[12:00] <liquidangle> s
[12:00] <mneptok> tRSS: still there?
[12:00] <highvoltage> some would say it has already taken over then :)
[12:00] <liquidangle> voltage: yeah, I was using it back in the day when I though it was underground
[12:00] <brian98> Hey all , about to install dapper on a fujistu siemens laptop (my primary - going to get funny looks in the office) - wish me luck!!
[12:01] <liquidangle> brian: good luck hehe
[12:01] <brian98> :)
[12:01] <mneptok> brian98: i'd get funny looks in the office running anything *but* Ubuntu ;)
[12:02] <liquidangle> mneptok: what ?
[12:02] <liquidangle> wow
[12:02] <_ian>  hi how do i enable file sharing with a windows computer? im conencted using a router with four ports..... my other computer is running winxp
[12:02] <liquidangle> sup _ian
 works for canonical
[12:02] <Zorlac> I can't even get ubuntu to install.
[12:02] <brian98> or google lol
[12:02] <liquidangle> google just runs the net
[12:02] <Zorlac> I was able to install gentoo and freebsd, but it seems ubuntu is too hard core for me
[12:03] <mneptok> of course, they tolerate my Mac Quadra 605 running NetBSD because there's no m68k Ubuntu port.
[12:03] <liquidangle> what would I do without it
[12:03] <liquidangle> Zorlac: hahaha
[12:03] <mneptok> brian98: it's Canonical ;)
[12:03] <mneptok> liquidangle: where in WA?
[12:03] <brian98> much apolgies Canonical :)
[12:04] <mneptok> brian98: echoing sentiments of my colleagues, too :)
[12:04] <liquidangle> mneptok: i'm not sure yet, i've been hittin the mls's lately
[12:04] <liquidangle> mneptok: what do you know about Mason county ?
[12:04] <brian98> Apologies to them too....
[12:04] <liquidangle> it looks pretty cheap for lakefront livin
[12:05] <brian98> Your doing a mighty job
[12:05] <mneptok> liquidangle: little. my experience (having been an Oregonian) is mostly with the imediate I-5 corridor.
[12:05] <liquidangle> keep in mind, i'm coming from a rat raced southern california
[12:05] <mneptok> liquidangle: what's the goal? i mean, why WA?
[12:05] <liquidangle> mneptok: i-5 access is essential :)
[12:05] <liquidangle> mneptok: well, i wanna live in a small town with access to the seattle rat race
[12:06] <subiet> Hello, I am looking for a complete media player with media managment support
[12:06] <subiet> any suggestions
[12:06] <Zorlac> Anyone else have an explination for my ata drives being labed sdc and sdd?
[12:06] <mneptok> liquidangle: I-5 commutes into Seattle at rush hour (south OR north) are horrific
[12:07] <rasputnik> Zorlac: are they sata?
[12:07] <Zorlac> No.
[12:07] <tomcatt> !xgl
[12:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:07] <rasputnik> Zorlac: then i've no idea :)
[12:07] <Zorlac> hahaha
[12:07] <tRSS> looking for me mneptok?
[12:07] <exmethix> does anybody know how to install initng?
[12:07] <mneptok> tRSS: aye. can you telnet to port 53 at <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[12:08] <tRSS> what is that ip?
[12:08] <exmethix> i wantet to try it but i get da dependicy error
[12:08] <subiet> exmethix, i guess i can help with initng
[12:08] <subiet> what do you want to know
[12:08] <mneptok> tRSS: public DNS server
[12:08] <exmethix> ab: libc6 (>=2.3.6-6), aber es wird 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[12:08] <subiet> i got it working some time back, and it is wonderful, 6 second shutdown time is dream come true
[12:08] <Zorlac> Gparted wont even load when ni try to install ubuntu
[12:08] <Zorlac> UBUNTU HATES MEEEE
[12:08] <tRSS> yea, I can telnet the above it
[12:08] <exmethix> subiet, i want to install it :D
[12:09] <tanek> how do i get apt to not ignore repositories
[12:09] <rasputnik> subiet: have you tried upstart yet?
[12:09] <subiet> rasputnik> i haven't tried upstart yet
[12:09] <mneptok> tRSS: then your ISP is not blocking connection attempts on port 53.
[12:09] <subiet> exmethix, i guess the best place for you to start would be initng wiki
[12:09] <mneptok> tRSS: try "nslookup google.com <IP_ADDRESS>"
[12:10] <subiet> as you are on a ubuntu channel i assume you have ubuntu, so wait, i will just give the link
[12:10] <rasputnik> subiet: nor me, but it looks promising. they seem to at least be aware of all the other approaches
[12:10] <subiet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitNG
[12:10] <tRSS> hold on, i telnet'd from the wrong window, that was telnet from my machine and dns machine is in someother location
[12:10] <tRSS> trying to telnet from there.
[12:11] <mneptok> tRSS: it doesn't matter. no matter what machine on your network is making the connection attempt, your ISP is not blocking it (as was suggested)
[12:11] <tRSS> nope, i am with a different isp and the dns machine is on some remote network
[12:12] <mneptok> ah.
[12:12] <mneptok> when you say "DNS machine" are you talking about a machine running bIND that you control?
[12:12] <rasputnik> tRSS: try the nslookup rather than telnet
[12:12] <mneptok> *BIND
[12:12] <tRSS> that is correct mneptok
[12:13] <tRSS> infact, when I try to telnet to my bind machine from my existing location port 53, i am getting a time out
[12:14] <subiet> upstart looks nice
[12:14] <mnepton> argh
[12:14] <mnepton> sorry, my home ISP is falling down tonight
[12:15] <mnepton> and ... he's gone.
[12:16] <iain> How can I access the hibernate command from the console?
[12:16] <Zorlac> hibernate?
[12:16] <iain> Yeah
[12:16] <iain> I'm in a minimalist window manager I'm trying out, and I don't know how :P
[12:17] <Zorlac> um, i think you need a hibernate script..
[12:17] <iain> Normally it's one of the log out options
[12:18] <Zorlac> iain: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/hibernate
[12:18] <mnepton> iain: does this WM support ACPI?
[12:18] <iain> mnepton: Isn't that a low-level thing, having nothing to do with the WM?
[12:19] <subiet> well i repeat my question, anyone here has a suggestion of a good media player with media managment
[12:19] <rasputnik> mnepton: window managers manage windows, they don't do acpi for you
[12:19] <mnepton> iain: the WM has to have hooks into it if it's going to trigger power-saving modes
[12:19] <tanek> anyone else had problems with synaptics driver?
[12:19] <rasputnik> mnepton: no it doesn't, just write a script and map it to a button/keypress/whatever
[12:20] <mnepton> rasputnik: that's one way. the other way is to have the WM communicate to the ACPI subsystem (like putting the machine to sleep after x number of minutes)
[12:20] <iain> Zorlac: I have the functionality on my computer (though I don't have that package) so I don't need to install it, but I don't know the command.  Do you?
[12:21] <rasputnik> mnepton: a window manager draws bars around x clients. that's all it dose
[12:21] <mnepton> rasputnik: really, so a WM never looks intyo /proc/acpi?
[12:21] <mnepton> *into
[12:21] <rasputnik> mnepton: why would it?
[12:21] <mnepton> you *aure* about that?
[12:22] <iain> I found it
[12:22] <mnepton> http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnome-acpi/
[12:22] <iain> /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[12:22] <rasputnik> mnepton: that's not a window manager!
[12:22] <mnepton> rasputnik: so then run it without one.
[12:23] <iain> mnepton: It's perfectly possible, don't you know?
[12:23] <iain> Just make sure you don't even have twm installed
[12:23] <rasputnik> mnepton: that's a program that shows you remaining battery life, it hasn't even got anything to do with acpi
[12:23] <mnepton> rasputnik: the point is, a WM or DE can be told to interact or query /proc/acpi just as easily as a shell script.
[12:23] <highvoltage> you can make a window manager do acpi
[12:23] <xinel> anyone else having trouble getting to alsa project?
[12:24] <rasputnik> mnepton: that's not what you linked to. and i was disagreeing with your statement that a wm is needed to hibernate
[12:24] <highvoltage> you could hack metacity or something to have a suspend button next to your minimize/maximize/close buttons :)
[12:24] <mnepton> rasputnik: i never said "a WM is needed to hibernate"
[12:24] <iain> mnepton: You asked me if my WM supported ACPI.
[12:24] <mnepton> rasputnik: i asked if this *aprticular* WM had any hooks into ACPI stuff. that's all.
[12:24] <mnepton> *particular
[12:25] <iain> Anyway, I found hibernate, so I'm gonna.
[12:25] <rasputnik> highvoltage, rasputnik : i said 'just map a button/keypress to a hibernate script'
[12:25] <xinel> still can't get my hda sound card to work
[12:25] <rasputnik> anny way
[12:26] <McNutella> good morning.
[12:27] <rasputnik> is there a tool to stop me eating this whole sack of peanuts in one sitting? because the bag is far too big.
[12:27] <McNutella> Some how when I boot up it shows "kubuntu" even though I am using Ubuntu. How do I change it back to show the Ubuntu Logo ?
[12:28] <rasputnik> McNutella: do you mean it's showing the kde login screen?
[12:29] <lz05> I would put duct tape over the K, but only if it *really* bugs you that much
[12:29] <McNutella> no, rasputnik, as the system is booting p
[12:29] <McNutella> up
[12:30] <rasputnik> McNutella: on the splash screen thingy? I'd just look away
[12:30] <lz05> McNutella: Seriously though, you could turn off the bootsplash in the bootloader configuration, I believe
[12:31] <McNutella> not the splash screen either.. when you turn PC on, while its booting, the blue kubuntu shows, it used to show the normal Ubuntu
[12:31] <Losty1981> ah sorted thanks guys
[12:31] <McNutella> might just put duct tape over the whole screen :)
[12:32] <rasputnik> McNutella: nah, seriously - I think you mean the grub splashscreen? google to see where the xpm is loaded from
[12:32] <McNutella> where all the OK's are scrolling up
[12:33] <rasputnik> McNutella: yeah, that's the grub splash screen.  Simply because I never cared too much too look into the configuration of grub
[12:35] <frojnd> how can I format it in something that linux likes it
[12:35] <tanek> how do i turn on shmconfig? synaptics driver tells me to do that
[12:35] <sphivo> McNutella: uninstall kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[12:35] <frojnd> and it's cheked for linux that works properly
[12:35] <rasputnik> lz05: take the time to learn grub. it wizzes all over your puny bootloader.
[12:35] <rasputnik> hmm could possibly have been more tactful. ho hum
[12:36] <McNutella> sphivo, see that looks farmilliar, but then what happens when its looking for the ubuntu thingiemabobber
[12:36] <rasputnik> McNutella: it'll go back to the default
[12:36] <McNutella> lz05, i dont want to touch anything like that :)
[12:36] <sphivo> It'll just load the old Ubuntu one.
[12:36] <SpComb> frojnd: well, you can wipe the partition and put ext3 onto it... do you need to continue using the NTFS partition from windows or keep the data?
[12:37] <frojnd> SpComb no I don't use wins anymore
[12:37] <frojnd> I hate them :P
[12:37] <McNutella> and the main annoyance is, when the system asks for the password, it fades the screen, then it flashes and blah!
[12:37] <lz05> In the early days of me trying to learn Linux, I accidentally piped a file into grub instead of grep....no damage though
[12:38] <jay_> Hi, What is difference between programming on Linux and Windows?
[12:38] <McNutella> tee hee
[12:38] <opexoc> Do you know where in ubuntu filesystem I can find some fonts?
[12:38] <Arafangion> jay_: One is a sane environment, the other attempts to be sane, but can only do so with enourmous packages such as Visual Studio 2005 and .NET
[12:38] <frojnd> SpComb frojnd: well, you can wipe the partition and put ext3 onto it... do you need to continue using the NTFS partition from windows or keep the data?  How can I wipe it.. or format it..
[12:39] <mjr> jay_, no fundamental difference; different libraries are available by default, some of which may be available as separate installs for the other too (and some not)
[12:39] <sphivo> opexoc: Check out /usr/share/fonts
[12:39] <SpComb> frojnd: then you can just do "mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd<whateveritis><partition>", that will replace the NTFS partition with ext3, keep in mind that it will also destory all data on that partition
[12:40] <rasputnik> jay_: depends what language you're using
[12:40] <McNutella> Scottish mainly for me :)
[12:41] <rasputnik> jings
[12:41] <mnepton> jay_: Linux programming is like carefully crafting an elegant Gothic cathedral stone-by-stone. Windows programming is like gluing gold-painted macaroni ona sheet of construction paper, smearing it with Ebola virus, and then asking people to lick it and tell you how wonderful it tastes.
[12:41] <frojnd> keep in mind that it will also destory all data on that partition I allready make sure that data can go to***
[12:41] <frojnd> :P
[12:41] <GusWrk> Hi guys.  My system has stopped automounting my CDROM, CDRW and Floppy drives.  Checking dmesg after putting a CD shows no new messages, so I'm kinda stuck as to what to do to fix it.
[12:41] <McNutella> rasputnik, crivvens!
[12:41] <jay_> Why do some companys employ C/C++ programmer under Linux, not under Windows?
[12:41] <SVisor> mnepton: Biased are you?
[12:42] <CaptainKidd> mnepton, lol
[12:42] <Arafangion> jay_: Because winapi *sucks*
[12:43] <rasputnik> jay_: unix/linux is written *in* C by programmers for programmers.
[12:43] <McNutella> jings and crivvens isnt glasgow :P but well done.. as for the deep fried mars bar, dont tell anyone, its still patent pending :P
[12:43] <SVisor> jay_: Probably because the target OS is Linux. There are a lot of API diffs between Linux and Windows.
[12:44] <lz05> jay_: My favorite language on Windows is Burnt Toast. It embeds a lovely scratching sound into the OS. No wait...that's the login sound that comes with Windows..oh well
[12:44] <McNutella> lol
[12:47] <jamesuk> Hello
[12:47] <nich0s> hey allz
[12:47] <jamesuk> Can someone help me with a small networking problem accessing the web?
[12:47] <McNutella> try us jamesuk  :)
[12:48] <morbid88> hey guys. I need some more help with my wireless, please. I've managed to load the driver, ipw3945, but now I can't get the daemon to run.
[12:48] <nich0s> morbid88: Are you on a Sony Viao?
[12:48] <frojnd> SpComb what's the difference between fat32 and exte
[12:48] <morbid88> nope. I'm on an MSI M660, if that means anything t you.
[12:48] <frojnd> beside that ext3 is linux only
[12:49] <morbid88> nich0s: I've been having trouble with it for a whole week. Managed to finally get the driver module up, and I have no idea how I did that.
[12:49] <nich0s> morbid88: I have a vaio with that card in it and it worked flawlessly when I loaded Dapper on to it.
[12:49] <jamesuk> [PROBLEM]  I've just installed Ubunto 6.06 on my laptop. I am connected to my wired LAN. I have it configured by DHCP but I cannot access the internet. I can ping websites and get a reply, but when I traceroute the same website it gets to about step 8 and then gives no reply. Any Ideas?
[12:50] <lz05> jamesuk: is it aliased to something like wlan# or eth# (dapper auto-assigned eth1 on my wireless)
[12:50] <morbid88> it seems wireless troubles are comon place with linux.
[12:50] <SpComb> frojnd: uh, I don't know any details, but FAT32 is ancient (win98 anyone?), ext3 is more recent...
[12:50] <jamesuk> lz05: In Admin -> Networking it has default gateway as eth0
[12:50] <nich0s> morbid88: I'm on my wifi right now :P
[12:50] <rasputnik> frojnd: ext3 is journalled, fat32 isn't
[12:50] <xica> hola
[12:51] <frojnd> ok..
[12:51] <frojnd> let's format it ;)
[12:51] <SpComb> frojnd: definatly use ext3 if possible...
[12:51] <Zorlac> i don't thinkn fat32 supports large hard drives
[12:51] <Chousuke> frojnd: fat32 is not fit for most usage nowadays
[12:51] <nich0s> jamesuk: Have you tried assigning it a static IP at your router and in the network settings of your adapter/
[12:51] <frojnd> ok..
[12:51] <Chousuke> you can't store a DVD image on a FAT32 drive. It can't handle files over 4GB in size. :)
[12:52] <lz05> jamesuk: what does ifconfig give you? iwconfig? route? ....I learned mostly on the command line
[12:52] <frojnd> so ext3 will cover 400gb of HD ?
[12:52] <nich0s> frojnd: oui
[12:52] <Chousuke> shouldn't be a problem.
[12:52] <frojnd> k
[12:52] <nich0s> xica: hola.
[12:52] <rasputnik> jamesuk: traceroute failing isn't necessariy a problem. do you hane dns setup?
[12:52] <Zorlac> fat32 is just failure, never use it
[12:52] <SpComb> frojnd: ext3 can handle terabytes
[12:52] <frojnd> ;)
[12:53] <rasputnik> SpComb: actually only 8Tb.
[12:53] <Chousuke> Zorlac: it's sometimes needed. Almost all operating systems support it :P
[12:53] <SpComb> rasputnik: terabytes
[12:53] <Zorlac> =[
[12:53] <jamesuk> nich0s: I tried that but it wouldn't even resolve a domain name then for some strange reason.
[12:53] <Zorlac> liesss
[12:53] <morbid88> nich0s: you have any idea how I load the daemon?
[12:53] <Chousuke> 8Tb = 1 terabyte :P
[12:54] <SpComb> I'm somewhat sure he meant 8 terabytes there
[12:54] <rasputnik> SpComb: even 8TB isn't Big Enough for some cases. it'll need a rewrite soon
[12:54] <nich0s> jamesuk: Are other computers on your network exhibiting the same symptoms?
[12:54] <jamesuk> rasputnik: it auto-configured my DNS (<IP_ADDRESS>) which is correct
[12:54] <Zorlac> I'm so sad that ubuntu doesn't come with dmraid already
[12:54] <Chousuke> Ext4 will probably arrive someday
[12:54] <Arafangion> rasputnik: I'm sure that if you have a few TB, you'll be happy to write the fs yourself.
[12:54] <rasputnik> jamesuk: does 'nslookup google.com' work?
[12:54] <Zorlac> Anyone know an neffective and easy way to mount my raid drives?
[12:54] <Arafangion> rasputnik: As google did.
[12:55] <Arafangion> Chousuke: It's already being designed.
[12:55] <rasputnik> Arafangion: lots of people have >8TB, it's not a ridiculous amount of storage
[12:55] <jamesuk> nich0s: No I have XP Pro on the laptop too and thats fine - I am on my main tower here and thats fine too. I had SUSE on the laptop before and there were no problems there.
[12:55] <nich0s> morbid88: I'm not going to lie to you... I never won the battle with the WIFI. :
[12:55] <Chousuke> besides, there already exist filesystems fit for large amounts of data
[12:55] <Chousuke> like ZFS
[12:55] <rasputnik> Chousuke: not for linux though
[12:55] <nich0s> jamesuk: A simple no would have been cool :P What about the 'nslookup google.com'?
[12:55] <jamesuk> rasputnik: yes nslookup google.com works
[12:56] <nich0s> kewl
[12:56] <rasputnik> jamesuk: then dns is fine. what exactly doesn't work
[12:56] <jamesuk> nich0s: :)
[12:56] <Chousuke> rasputnik: AFAIK it's being ported or something
[12:56] <rasputnik> Chousuke: yes, but only as a fuse layer. it'll be slow
[12:56] <morbid88> nich0s: So we are already doomed.
[12:56] <parkour_druid> hello
[12:56] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I can't get a webpage to show in Firefox, it just times out (as does traceroute) ping is fine though.
[12:57] <rasputnik> jamesuk: try a 'telnet www.whereever.com 80', then mash return a few times. see if you can connect
[12:57] <rasputnik> jamesuk: the reason I'm not bothered about traceroute is that lots of isps block it.
[12:58] <nich0s> jamesuk: There aren't any proxies hardcoded in to firefox, are there?
[12:58] <SpComb> block ICMP TTL expired replies?
[12:58] <Zorlac> apt-get uses the packages listed online right?
[12:58] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I tried telnet www.google.co.uk 80 and pressed enter a few times - it came up Trying <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:59] <jamesuk> nich0s: I haven't configured any proxies in it
[12:59] <rasputnik> jamesuk: what ip does it actually say?
[12:59] <jamesuk> nich0s: Just checked - says Direct Connection to the Internet
[01:00] <nich0s> jamesuk: I guess I shouldn't be trying to help people after being up for 48 hours :P
[01:00] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Just came up exactly as "Trying <IP_ADDRESS> ..." then nothing
[01:00] <jamesuk> nich0s: 48 hours! How are you still awake! Get some sleep! :p
[01:01] <rasputnik> jamesuk: that's f-cked. that's the wrong ip for google. type 'set|grep -i proxy' on the console
[01:01] <Zorlac> anything on (http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages) should be able to be apt-get'd right?
[01:01] <SVisor> jamesuk: If it realy tried to access IP <IP_ADDRESS> then your DNS is totally hoaxed.  What does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" tell you?
[01:01] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Just came up telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[01:01] <_cerberus_> When trying to mount a remote directory using "mount -t nfs myserver:/home/username /mnt/myserver" I get an error stating "mount: RPC: Program not registered" does anyone know what could be causing this and how to fix it?
[01:01] <rasputnik> _cerberus_: install portmap and start it
[01:02] <rasputnik> _cerberus_: on the client
[01:02] <nich0s> jamesuk: Should be like 64.233.meh.something
[01:02] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I types 'set|grep -i proxy' and it came up with a load of options with -B --bts etc
[01:02] <_cerberus_> I already have it installed and started
[01:03] <jamesuk> SVisor: cat /etc/resolv.conf comes up "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" which is my router address
[01:03] <rasputnik> jamesuk: ok, try 'telnet google.com 99' too. see what ip it tries then
[01:03] <rasputnik> jamesuk: because it looks like exactly like you have a proxy configured
[01:03] <jamesuk> rasputnik: "Trying <IP_ADDRESS> ..." again :(
[01:04] <lz05> jamesuk: have you tried a simple dhclient (or dhcpcd) on the interface?
[01:04] <XeniX> Hey everyone, I just installed some software updates (compiz-core, compiz-plugins and some other stuff) and now my windows have no icons/borders.... compiz gives me the error "unable to load plugin: gconf". Any Ideas?
[01:04] <SVisor> jamesuk: It should not be your router, it should be your DNS... I do not know how Ubunut scripts DHCP. But DHCP fails to set up DNS.
[01:04] <rasputnik> jamesuk: that's bizarre. but a ping works?
[01:04] <jamesuk> lz05: I typed dhclient - it came up "Permission Denied"
[01:05] <rasputnik> jamesuk: ok, one more for me ;   telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 80
[01:05] <lz05> jamesuk: as root, or sudo <command>
[01:05] <rasputnik> jamesuk: which is (one of) googles ip
[01:05] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes I get a reply from a ping request
[01:05] <nich0s> jamesuk: type sudo in front of it.
[01:05] <rasputnik> jamesuk: telnet is tcp, ping is icmp. they're not the same
[01:05] <Flamekebab> aloha, all, I'll make it quick - I've installed Gallery2 via synaptic, but I haven't the foggiest where the package is installed, a little help?
[01:06] <lupine_85> dpkg -l <packagename>
[01:06] <lupine_85> gives you a list of files installed by the package
[01:06] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yep telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 80 came up as "Connected to <IP_ADDRESS>" but when I press enter I get "Connection closed by foreign host"
[01:06] <lupine_85> no doubt there's a tab in synaptic that does the same thing (I use adept)
[01:06] <rasputnik> jamesuk: that's fine. your dns server is full of shit.
[01:07] <SVisor> jamesuk: If "ping some.ip.number.net" works but "host some.domain.com" does not. THen you network is set up correctly except for the DNS part.
[01:07] <rasputnik> jamesuk: just do a 'host linux.org' to check. bet it says <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:07] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I have the same settings on Windows for DNS and there is no probs there
[01:07] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone know where I can start looking to see why my box wont reboot/shutdown? It hangs at "Will Reboot/Hault Now" .. where it used to click off and stop, or start booting again ..
[01:07] <SVisor> jamesuk: Check with your ISP what the IP of their DNS is and modify resolv.conf accordingly and then try again.
[01:07] <frandavid100> hi guys
[01:08] <frandavid100> could you give me your opinion on this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253343
[01:08] <jamesuk> rasputnik: host linux.org comes up "linux.org has address <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:08] <Peacefulmunda> hello i need help
[01:08] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me
[01:08] <jamesuk> SVisor: can I not give my router IP as DNS and it will forward to my ISP?
[01:08] <Peacefulmunda>  hello i need help
 can anyone help me
[01:09] <_cerberus_> turns out I hadn't restarted the nfs-kernel server, working now
[01:09] <mooky> jamif its running a dns server it will
[01:09] <_cerberus_> Peacefulmunda, ask and we'll try
[01:09] <rasputnik> jamesuk: ah right! so dns works, but your system isn't configured to USE dns!
[01:09] <rasputnik> jamesuk: you need to look at /etc/nsswitch.conf. tell me what the 'hosts' line says
[01:09] <SVisor> jamesuk: Depends on router (and if its correctly set up). It works for me <IP_ADDRESS> is my gateway and DNS.
[01:09] <compengi> how can i kill a process in the terminal?
[01:10] <frojnd> I used mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 in hope system will format in ext3, but at the and of the progress was smth like this: Writing inode tables: done
[01:10] <frojnd>  Creating journal (32768 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
[01:10] <frojnd>     This filesystem will be automatically checked every 25 mounts or
[01:10] <frojnd>  180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
[01:10] <rasputnik> SVisor: if host works, dns works. its a name service switch problem.
[01:10] <CromagDK> compengi: kill -9 pid
[01:10] <CromagDK> use ps for overview of processes
[01:10] <frojnd> ps -aux
[01:10] <CromagDK> ah ye
[01:10] <rasputnik> frojnd: that's what it should do. now mount the partition.
[01:10] <jamesuk> rasputnik: hosts line says "hosts: files dns mdns"
[01:11] <lupine_85> frojnd: yep that's an ext3 filesystem
[01:11] <DrZero> bye
[01:11] <frojnd> how can I mouint it
[01:11] <lupine_85> (ext3 is ext2 with a journal)
[01:11] <lz05> jamesuk: does "cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep nameserver" give you any info?
[01:11] <SVisor> rasputnik: Did "host" work? ... did not see that.
[01:11] <frojnd> mnt /dev/sdb1 /home/q/sdb1
[01:11] <frojnd> ?
[01:11] <lupine_85> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /path/to/mountpoint
[01:11] <frojnd> aha
[01:11] <frojnd> tnx
[01:12] <_mason> Gday, Im having this problem with sound in wine "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"
[01:12] <jamesuk> lzo5: it gives "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:12] <rasputnik> lz05, SVisor : DNS works! it's just not using it for name resolution some reason
[01:12] <lupine_85> do you have a sane /etc/hosts ?
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <LoRez> Warning: `Peacefulmunda' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Chousuke> Peacefulmunda:  No.
[01:13] <J_P> hi all
[01:13] <ChaosFan> Peacefulmunda: you'll never get help that way
[01:13] <rasputnik> Peacefulmunda: no, and you might as well leave now.
[01:13] <jamesuk> rasputnik: hosts line in nsswitch.conf says "hosts: files dns mdns"
[01:14] <Peacefulmunda> man i am new here
[01:14] <SVisor> rasputnik: Ok... must have scrolled aways before I noted that. "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" - ok, network is running, "host a.b.c" - ok DNS is running, then we have left switching
[01:14] <seshomaru> hello , is there a command that tells me the size of my memeory?
[01:14] <Peacefulmunda> i dont know how to get help
[01:14] <Peacefulmunda> who should i contact
[01:14] <rasputnik> jamesuk: I know, and that should work. you can swap the words 'dns' and 'files' to test?
 i mount it, and when I clik on the partition it says that I don't have the permisson for reading...
[01:14] <Flamekebab> does anyone happen to just know off the top of their head where gallery2 installs? (I'm not at the system right now)
[01:14] <frojnd> I wannt to read and write on that partition
[01:14] <lupine_85> frojnd: stick it in your fstab
[01:14] <lupine_85> man fstab (you want the "user" option)
[01:14] <cardon> http://www.world-la2.ru
[01:14] <cardon> http://www.world-la2.ru
[01:14] <cardon> http://www.world-la2.ru
[01:14] <rasputnik> Peacefulmunda: I've got a screenful of crap from you, so now I'm going to ignore you. most people will do that automatically
[01:14] <nich0s> quickly, I need a music player that will support podcasts
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i am sorry
[01:15] <lz05> Flamekebab: try a whereis on it
[01:15] <rasputnik> Peacefulmunda: see? cardon is doing it too
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i dont even know how to use irc
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i am new here
[01:15] <_mason> Does anyone know what my problem is? Sound + Wine ?
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i am trying to quite windows
[01:15] <_mason> 'quit
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> quit**
[01:16] <rasputnik> frojnd: just mount it somewhere, and off you go.
[01:16] <Peacefulmunda> hey rasputnik can u help me
[01:16] <nich0s> Peacefulmunda: Well then I welcome you on behalf of the "group of people who friggin hate windows"
[01:16] <Flamekebab> lz05, I need to find the package, unfortunately, it's not installed on this laptop (and to install it I'd need to download apache, etc. etc..)
[01:16] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: Speak your mind and anyone here can try to help you.
[01:16] <Flamekebab> it's installed on a PC in my office
[01:16] <_mason> Ohh, God do i hate windows
[01:16] <Peacefulmunda> Thanks MAN :D
[01:16] <rasputnik> lupine_85: I think the partition is ext3 now, does he still need 'user'?
[01:16] <Flamekebab> I dislike Windows
[01:17] <_mason> But, Hating windows doesnt solve my sound issue?
[01:17] <nich0s> but it makes you feel all warm inside.
[01:17] <Peacefulmunda> nor does it solves mine
[01:17] <lupine_85> rasputnik: if he wants users to be able to mount it, yes
[01:17] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I swapped dns and files and saved it - do I have to restart the network / computer for it to take effect?
[01:17] <lz05> Flamekebab: ok,...thought you might have found + installed it
[01:17] <lupine_85> jamesuk: no :)
[01:17] <rasputnik> jamesuk: no, just try firefox again
[01:18] <Flamekebab> lz05, it's installed on a machine in the office, but I'm connected to that machine via webmin
[01:18] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: Would you please be specific and tell what problem you have exactly?
[01:18] <Flamekebab> and I'm trying to figure out where the sodding Gallery2 directory is
[01:18] <rasputnik> nich0s: aren't they just mp3s?
[01:19] <morbid88> lupine_85: any chance you can help me out again? I've messed around with the system, and now I've got ipw3945 running, but I can't see a wireless device.
[01:19] <Peacefulmunda> well syouth, my net provider uses ISA server at his end and when i use windows i have to install ISA server client
[01:19] <morbid88> and I can't load the daemon.
[01:19] <nich0s> rasputnik: mp4s.. they like to be difficult.
[01:19] <Peacefulmunda> and he also uses some DHCP thingy
[01:19] <seshomaru> Flamekebab, did you try whereis Gallery2 ?
[01:19] <rasputnik> nich0s: :) mplayer can do them
[01:19] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Nothing again, just stays saying "Connecting to www.yahoo.co.uk"
[01:19] <syouth> ISA?
[01:19] <Peacefulmunda> i can access the provider website but can't open any other website
[01:19] <pitillo> hi good morning, how can I know which ubuntu version I have installed?
[01:19] <Flamekebab> seshomaru, on which system?
[01:19] <lupine_85> morbid88: cool
[01:19] <lupine_85> ok, you need to do the ipw3945d thing
[01:20] <rasputnik> jamesuk: fuck sake! is this a fresh install? because it's hosed!
[01:20] <pitillo> seeing the apt sources?
[01:20] <nich0s> rasputnik: Your personal preference?
[01:20] <Flamekebab> if I do it on this laptop, where it's not installed, I get "gallery2: " and that's it
[01:20] <lupine_85> also check dmesg for errors
[01:20] <SVisor> jamesuk: You might need to restart firefox thou.
[01:20] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes I installed it last night
[01:20] <TheDude> morbid88, haha ya omo
[01:20] <rasputnik> nich0s: it can just do everything
[01:20] <Peacefulmunda> did anyone understand my problem
[01:20] <lupine_85> (Dutchy had a switch that s/he had to flipm then reload the module)
[01:20] <TheDude> morbid88, lo chashavti sheemtza otcha kan
[01:20] <nich0s> rasputnik: FANTASTIC *tackle*
[01:20] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: did u get it?
[01:20] <jamesuk> SVisor: Yes I did restart it, but no good :(
[01:20] <morbid88> Buzi?
[01:20] <TheDude> yes yes yes
[01:20] <syouth> Ok. Something like firewall etc
[01:20] <rasputnik> jamesuk: christ. can you paste /etc/hosts somewhere
[01:20] <lz05> Flamekebab: can you ssh into the remote machine and try whereis?
[01:20] <Peacefulmunda> yes
[01:21] <earthian> hello
[01:21] <iced_boy> ciao
[01:21] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes give me a few mins
[01:21] <nich0s> hi
[01:21] <shedi> TheDude, evrit ?
[01:21] <Flamekebab> lz05, I shall see if I can set up SSH
[01:21] <earthian> i have compiled and installed the new kernel version 2.6.17-11
[01:21] <TheDude> shedi, nu ma...
[01:21] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: i think it acts like a firewall as well
[01:21] <morbid88> lupine_85: how do I set up the daemon? I saw some script lines... but... couldn't quite get it.
[01:21] <pitillo> well, thanks anyway :)
[01:21] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: the ISA server client that is ...
[01:21] <gomek> Anyone here have much experience with customizing the ubuntu install cds?
[01:22] <earthian> however when i boot i get this error: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(0,0)
[01:22] <lz05> Flamekebab: beyond trying that, or being on the physical machine (or having previous knowledge)...I can't think of quick solutions
[01:22] <earthian> anybody know why and how to try fix it?
[01:22] <Peacefulmunda> rasputnik: can u help me now man
[01:22] <ibob63> hi. I am having problem with my routers and think I need to add a new dns server to my linux machine. Can anyone tell me how to set the primary and secondary dns servers on ubuntu?
[01:22] <Flamekebab> lz05, I guess I'll have to find some clothes and wander up to the office then!
[01:22] <zpeef> Ubuntu finds my network card, it has the right ip, and it seem to work. But it can only send packages, not recieve. Both on LAN and WAN
[01:22] <zpeef> Help
[01:22] <Flamekebab> getting dressed sucks..
[01:22] <WindowsUninstall> Hi all
[01:23] <seshomaru> Flamekebab, sorry I think I misunderstood your problem....
[01:23] <syouth> I've never bumped into ISA servers or clients but here is one generic HOW-TO: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Web-Browsing-Behind-ISA-Server-HOWTO.html
[01:23] <rasputnik> earthian: that usually means your disk is unreadable by the kernel. did you setup the right filesystem support?
[01:23] <KyoLptp`> how do I add a new repository to my source.list?
[01:23] <TheDude> how can I set Remote Desktop on ubuntu ?
[01:23] <nich0s> Flamekebab: You have just won the prestigious random award.
[01:23] <KyoLptp`> that is, where is the source.list?
[01:23] <earthian> well yeah :S
[01:23] <rasputnik> KyoLptp`: with a text editor? it's in /etc/apt
[01:23] <k3nobi> hi, sice my ubuntu installation (previously I had gentoo) I get a black screen from time to time after I worked for a while
[01:23] <lupine_85>  morbid88: http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/README.ipw3945d
[01:23] <KyoLptp`> thanks
[01:23] <_mason> Additionaly What is the port i need to open for remote desktop?
[01:23] <earthian> ext3 is enabled in kernel config
[01:23] <Flamekebab> nich0s, being geeky is all about putting in extra effort now to be lazy later
[01:23] <k3nobi> it says sync out of range
[01:24] <lupine_85> download the binary from http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/ipw3945d-1.7.22.tgz
[01:24] <griffith_exo> ibob63: your DNS servers go in /etc/resolv.conf. Primary one goes first.
[01:24] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: I think you could install that "ntlmaps" (with sudo apt-get install ntlmaps) and configure it.. I really don't have a real solution, as I don't know nothing else on the topic. Sorry
[01:24] <lupine_85> k3nobi: compiled in or as a module? :)
[01:24] <rasputnik> earthian: is your rootfs ext3? and it has to be in, not just a module
[01:24] <k3nobi> but I think I configured xorg very well
[01:24] <nich0s> Flamekebab: I have been ip for a long time now... I know what you mean
[01:24] <k3nobi> lupine_85: ??
[01:24] <earthian> hm
[01:24] <earthian> checking
[01:24] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: i am looking at it now
[01:24] <Peacefulmunda> thanks man
[01:24] <lupine_85> erm, sorry. @earthian
[01:24] <lupine_85> d'oh!
[01:25] <ibob63> griffith_exo: thanks. i do I need to restart the network for a change of settings to take effect?
[01:25] <syouth> Good. I'm not really sure, if this is what you need, but go for it...
[01:25] <TheDude> need help - how can I set Remote Desktop on ubuntu ?
[01:25] <rasputnik> ibob63: no
[01:25] <morbid88> lupine_85: it says it can't find the device.
[01:25] <tRSS> how does one access an ftp site over ssl (or commonly known as ftps) in ubuntu?
[01:25] <earthian> :)
[01:26] <lupine_85> morbid88: what step in the readme?
[01:26] <zpeef> Ubuntu finds my network card, it has the right IP, and it seems to work. But it can only send packages, not recieve. Both on LAN and WAN. Could anyone help me out?
[01:26] <morbid88> uh... just executing it first.
[01:26] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: Here is one thread, maybe you can dig some useful information: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-05/3834.html
[01:26] <lupine_85> so "sudo ipw3945d --timeout=-1"
[01:26] <morbid88> lupine_85: sorry. Do I need to deal with the process id at this time?
[01:26] <lz05> zpeef: what info can you get from route?
[01:27] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Hosts files is at http://www.browndogbytes.com/hosts.txt
[01:27] <Otacon22> in wich repository is mplayer?
[01:27] <zpeef> lz05: What is route? I'm a newbie with linux/ubuntu
[01:27] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I could be wrong but could it be an IPV6 issue?
[01:27] <lupine_85> morbid88: just run it as root for now
[01:28] <lz05> zpeef: bring up terminal...type in route
[01:28] <lupine_85> zpeef: it's a table that tells linux where to send internet packets
[01:28] <TheDude> can I set Remote Desktop on my ubuntu, and access it from another computer ?
[01:28] <syouth> route is "The path that network traffic takes from its source to its destination. Also, a possible path from a given host to another host or destination."
[01:28] <rasputnik> jamesuk: are you using ipv6?
[01:28] <lupine_85> if you've only got the one network connection, it's pretty simple :)
[01:28] <jamesuk> rasputnik: No
[01:28] <lupine_85> "ip route show" will give you your current route table
[01:28] <rasputnik> jamesuk: then no :)
[01:29] <ccooke> TheDude: Yes, you can
[01:29] <lupine_85> normally you'd want "sudo ip route add default via <router ip address> dev <interface>"
[01:29] <rasputnik> jamesuk: hosts file is fine. (<IP_ADDRESS> Linux is a bit odd, but shouldn't break anything)
[01:29] <kozmic> I've bought a new drive and wanna move ubuntu over to it. Will this work: both are ext3. Boot from livecd and do so: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda bs=1M;  then fix grub; and put in the new drive so its hda and boot it ?
[01:29] <TheDude> ccooke, 10x. how can I do that?
[01:29] <jamesuk> rasputnik: :) Whats all that in hosts about IPv6 is that all ok if I'm not using it?
[01:29] <lupine_85> kozmic: it probably will work
[01:29] <ccooke> TheDude: You should see configuration under System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[01:29] <SVisor> jamesuk: Yes they are ignored if IPV6 is not used.
[01:29] <rasputnik> jamesuk: it's just there for if you do use ipv6.
[01:29] <lupine_85> but if the drives aren't the same size, it's a bit wasteful
[01:30] <kozmic> lupine_85: hehe, "probably" :P well, ill give it a shot anyone
[01:30] <ccooke> TheDude: if you don't, then there's just a small package you need to install called 'vino'
[01:30] <lupine_85> jamesuk: ipv6 is loaded by default in daper's kernel. it's not a big deal
[01:30] <kozmic> lupine_85: yeah, but i can use expand to resize the new drive afterwards :)
[01:30] <rasputnik> jamesuk: are you sure you don't have to register your machine with the accesspoint somehow?
[01:30] <lupine_85> true enough
[01:30] <SVisor> jamesuk: Check the magic URL "about:config" in Firefox to make sure your not using IPV6
[01:30] <kozmic> lupine_85: then we agree? hehe, if not.. you have any other easy way to do it?
[01:30] <zpeef> Hmm, localnet says "Gateway *" and default says "<IP_ADDRESS>" which is my router btw. Localnet has a genmask, but not default
[01:30] <TheDude> ccooke, 10q very much
[01:30] <jamesuk> rasputnik: No, I haven't had to with my Red Hat and SUSE systems
[01:31] <ccooke> TheDude: Ubuntu uses a protocol called VNC for remote desktop. It's not supported by the Windows Remote Desktop application, but it's very well supported otherwise; there are dozens of clients for it
[01:31] <lupine_85> kozmic: personally I'd just mount the two and "sudo cp -a " to the mountpoint
[01:31] <morbid88> lupine_85: I'm now running the 686 kernel. That's the 64bit, right?
[01:31] <TheDude> ccooke, yeah I know vnc
[01:31] <lupine_85> obviously, copying everything but the mountpoint...
[01:31] <lupine_85> morbid88: no
[01:31] <rasputnik> jamesuk: you've got some package installed which is breaking your name resolution in odd ways (just in case you have short term memory loss).
[01:31] <lupine_85> amd64-generic and amd64-k8 are 64-bit
[01:31] <TheDude> ccooke, but I wanted to know if it's possible to do it with rdp as well
[01:31] <morbid88> aaaah. Wait, so I shouldn't be running 686?
[01:31] <kozmic> lupine_85: but i need to keep all symlinks etc correct, will -a do that?
[01:31] <jamesuk> SVisor: In about:config there is a line "network.dns.disableIPv6     default   boolean   false"
[01:32] <rasputnik> jamesuk: dns resolution is fine, but for some reason it's not using dns to resolve names.
[01:32] <lupine_85> kozmic: it's equiv. to dpR, so yes
[01:32] <TheDude> ccooke, btw, if we're talking about it already, do you know what's the diff between rdp and rdp v5 ?
[01:32] <syouth> i686 is generic x86 with advanced instruction set...
[01:32] <nich0s> im geting tired so if my englishstarts getting bad... let me know :P
[01:32] <kozmic> lupine_85: thanks for your help
[01:32] <nich0s> rasputnik: What did you say the name of the player waz?
[01:32] <rasputnik> jamesuk: and this is a *global* problem - not related to firefox
[01:32] <ccooke> TheDude: Not from a feature-level, no
[01:32] <rasputnik> nich0s: mplayer - does all movie formats and most audio too
[01:32] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Its only got the packages that are installed as default - Package Manager won't connected to the web to add any more :)
[01:33] <TheDude> ccooke, oh wait, does it mean that if I use the ubuntu Remote Desktop feature, then I can't connect to it using windows Remote Desktop?
[01:33] <rasputnik> jamesuk: so it's never worked?
[01:33] <zpeef> lz05: Did you see what I wrote?
[01:33] <lz05> zpeef: does it mention both interfaces?
[01:33] <morbid88> lupine_85: I launched it, got a pid, and now I'm waiting. nothing new on ifconfig or iwconfig.
[01:33] <gomek> Anyone here know how to strip everything except for ubuntu-base from the installer cd?
[01:33] <jamesuk> rasputnik: This is the first time I've hooked it up to the network since installation (last night) so no.
[01:33] <ccooke> TheDude: That's what I said, yes
[01:33] <lupine_85> morbid88: try removing and adding the module into the kernel
[01:33] <lupine_85> and check dmesg for any error messages
[01:34] <zpeef> lz05: Both default and localnet are Iface eth0 if that's what you mean
[01:34] <ccooke> TheDude: RDP is a proprietary protocol; I *have* seen a linux server for it, but it's a very, very long way from ready to release
[01:34] <rasputnik> gomek: ubuntu-base is just a metapackage that lists everything else as a dependency
[01:34] <SVisor> rasputnik: Maybe broken symlinks for  /usr/lib/libnss_* ... might they cause this kind of trouble?!
[01:35] <rasputnik> SVisor: sure, but on a stock install??
[01:35] <gomek> rasputnik Along with ubuntu-base's dependencies, of course.
[01:35] <rixxon> how can i stealth my laptop on the ethernet? it responds to echo requests and runs an smtp! *shiver*
[01:35] <morbid88> lupine_85: now I can't get ipw3945 to load again, but the only thing it says is that it can't find the device.
[01:35] <nich0s> rasputnik: do you speak french or spanish?
[01:35] <SVisor> jamesuk: Is this a clean install. Or over something old?
[01:35] <rasputnik> nich0s: a bit, why?
[01:36] <nich0s> rasputnik: all i see is kmplayer ( a warning in case I slip )
[01:36] <jamesuk> SVisor: Clean install - wiped HDD before install - created a partition for XP Pro and one for Ubuntu
[01:36] <TheDude> ccooke, got it. 10x
[01:36] <TheDude> ccooke, can you help in another question I have ?
[01:36] <SVisor> jamesuk: Well this should not happen...Im out of ideas
[01:36] <morbid88> TheDude: this is driving me nuts and making me somewhat unhappy.
[01:36] <rasputnik> nich0s:  you need to enable multiverse
[01:36] <lz05> zpeef: what info about eth0 are you able to get from "ifconfig"
[01:36] <TheDude> morbid88, and what does that might be?
[01:36] <jamesuk> morbid88: Me too!
[01:37] <ccooke> TheDude: I don't know yet...
[01:37] <jamesuk> SVisor: Looks like a re-install is in order?
[01:37] <TheDude> ccooke, :-)
[01:37] <morbid88> jamesuk: you've got the same problem, right?
[01:37] <mathieu> re-install? that sounds like ms windows
[01:37] <rasputnik> jamesuk: sorry mate, it's just bizarre. I'd try a reinstall, yeah. it really shouldn't  be this fucked without some kind of voodoo curse
[01:37] <nich0s> rasputnik: multiverse is in the category of not free and i cheap?
[01:37] <nich0s> i AM cheap
[01:38] <TheDude> ccooke, how can I set a share on my ubuntu, that will be accessable from other computers on my network?
[01:38] <SVisor> jamesuk: Hmm I doubt it will help. It probably breaks the same way. Unless you have some sort of freaky out of space error during install.
[01:38] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Could it just be a bad installation or could my install CD be fucked?
[01:38] <rasputnik> jamesuk: one last thought : is your house built on an ancient indian burial ground?
[01:38] <TheDude> morbid88, you didn't answered my quest...
[01:38] <zpeef> lz05: TX packets:212 errors. Interrupt:9 Base address 0x9800. Also, what is Bcast? It says <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:38] <nich0s> jamesuk: Do you live near a major military installation?
[01:38] <morbid88> TheDude: my wireless issues.
[01:38] <ccooke> TheDude: System -> Admninistration -> Shared Folders :-)
[01:38] <TheDude> morbid88, you should see a doctor about that
[01:38] <SVisor> jamesuk: Do not forget all the needed prayers and sacrifices during install.
[01:38] <rasputnik> nich0s: not free as in 'copyright fascism', it's still free as in 'costs no money'
[01:39] <jamesuk> rasputnik: It could be! :)
[01:39] <lupine_85> morbid88: without knowing why it's not working, it's hard to suggest anything
[01:39] <lupine_85> anything in dmesg?
[01:39] <morbid88> lupine_85: I concur.
[01:39] <nich0s> rasputnik: les potes
[01:39] <morbid88> lupine_85: dmesg just says the same thing... device not found.
[01:39] <jamesuk> nich0s: No I don't think so
[01:39] <rasputnik> jamesuk: try a fresh install, if that doesn't help try the mailing lists maybe (will be easier to post config files)
[01:39] <nich0s> jamesuk: well then just damn it all to hell :P
[01:39] <nich0s> j/k
[01:40] <TheDude> ccooke, hmm.. right, forgot that one. but I do want to learn how to do it, the terminal way.. :-) which means, configuring the samba manually
[01:40] <morbid88> lupine_85: and also disagrees about version of symbol something struct.
[01:40] <jamesuk> Thanks for your help everyone anyway! I'm off to wipe it and try again!
[01:40] <nich0s> jamesuk: Good luck
[01:40] <jamesuk> thanks bye!
[01:41] <nich0s> jamesuk: Don't accidently create a win part this time.
[01:41] <jamesuk> :)
[01:41] <lupine_85> morbid88: argh
[01:41] <nich0s> PIRATES
[01:41] <lz05> zpeef: the interface is currently up with an ip, right (inet addr)
[01:41] <nich0s> :P
[01:41] <morbid88> lupine_85: okay, this is weird. If said "can't find device", and then it did a . . . . . done.
[01:41] <zpeef> lz05: Yeah IP is fine, so is mask
[01:42] <ccooke> TheDude: Google is your friend, there. It would take me a *long* time to explain that here
[01:42] <lz05> zpeef: you don't have a mac address filter on, do you?
[01:42] <Hobbsee> B4zzA-2: see #kubuntu
[01:42] <lupine_85> quick note: you do have the firmware/microcode installed in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/`uname -r`, don't you?
[01:42] <TheDude> ccooke, thought so. no easy shortcuts there :-)  10x again man
[01:42] <zpeef> lz05: If you mean on the router, no. If you mean on Ubuntu, I have no idea. It's a fresh install
[01:42] <morbid88> lupine_85: yes, I do.
[01:43] <lupine_85> ok... can you pastebin the relevant chunk of dmesg ?
[01:43] <morbid88> lupine_85: of trying to install it?
[01:44] <lupine_85> wherever the module is failing to load
[01:44] <morbid88> okay. Pastebin is drop it into the chat?
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> hey
[01:44] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[01:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> has anyone here used mezzo?
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> i've got it installed but the view all programs thing doesnt do anything
[01:44] <lz05> zpeef: yeah..on the router...umm......try bringing up you router's web config, at least to see if you are getting that far
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> and neither does the change background picture button
[01:44] <Otacon22> in wich repository is mplayer?
[01:45] <DarkMageZ> Otacon22, multiverse
[01:45] <zpeef> lz05: The Ubuntu machine doesn't even get a ping from the router
[01:45] <Otacon22> DarkMageZ, yes, but of wich repository?
[01:45] <zpeef> lz05: So it's most likely a hardware/driver issue I'd guess. But I have no idea
[01:46] <mbvo> I'
[01:46] <lz05> zpeef: try doing "ipconfig eth0 down && ipconfig eth0 up && dhclient"
[01:47] <DarkMageZ> Otacon22, that doesn't make sence. but you can find mplayer in the multiverse repository
[01:47] <DarkMageZ> !multiverse
[01:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:47] <lz05> zpeef: I wouldn't think it's the hardware if it's got an interface alias assigned to it
[01:48] <A-L-P-H-A> anyone know how I should go about debuging sound issues?
[01:48] <mbvo> I'm getting an error saying totem could not play 'dvd:///media/cdrom'
[01:48] <morbid88> lupine_85: now i give you this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22911
[01:48] <mbvo> how can i fix this and play a dvd?
[01:48] <lupine_85> yep :)
[01:48] <DarkMageZ> !restrictedformats
[01:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:49] <A-L-P-H-A> I have no sound.  I have a sound blaster live! 24bit, with SPDIF (digital coax) out to my amp.  I have no sound.  Any kind soul able to help me out?
[01:49] <rambo3> !sound > A-L-P-H-A
[01:49] <zpeef> lz05: Command not found, or are these seperate commands?
[01:49] <DarkMageZ> mbvo, see what ubotu said about restricted formats. the answer is in the wiki entre :)
[01:49] <morbid88> lupine_85: and here's the dmesg output for ipw3945: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22912
[01:50] <A-L-P-H-A> rambo3: thanks.
[01:50] <mbvo> it's telling me no URI handler implemented for dvd
[01:50] <lz05> zpeef: ooops! ifconfig..not ipconfig
[01:51] <lupine_85> ok... the two are linked. stuct_module is a core part of the kernel - if it's a different version, the module won't load
[01:51] <zpeef> Siocsifflags: No access
[01:51] <lz05> zpeef: also - yeah...but they should work like a one-liner script
[01:51] <lupine_85> is the module in question - /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/ipw3945.ko - the right one?
[01:51] <ens01mbn> hello, i know this is the wrong channel for this question but, do anyone know where i can ask questions about c programming?
[01:51] <lupine_85> ##c ?
[01:51] <malice>  I just got a new usb PCMCIA card for my laptop, but when I put it in and connect my usb device Ubuntu does not see anything. Anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:51] <morbid88> lupine_85: I just tried again, using ./load in the ipw3945-1.0.0 directory, and it's loaded, it just says, again, that there's no device.
[01:52] <ens01mbn> no ordenary c
[01:52] <morbid88> it says it's also loaded the daemon.
[01:52] <DarkMageZ> mbvo, according to the wiki, the version of gstreamer in dapper doesn't support playing dvds. you could install gxine or totem-xine to get it to work
[01:52] <SVisor> ens01mbn: Just ask.. then we can start flaming you :-)
[01:52] <rambo3> morbid88, depmod -a
[01:52] <lupine_85> morbid88: but did the module load this time round?
[01:52] <morbid88> lupine_85: yes, it seems to have done.
[01:52] <rambo3> sry it doesnt load
[01:52] <DarkMageZ> mbvo, have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats it's a good read
[01:52] <morbid88> it shows up in lsmod
[01:52] <lupine_85> ok, get rid of that other module
[01:54] <morbid88> the one in my lib dir?
[01:54] <lupine_85> as it's useless to you, and is getting in the way
[01:54] <lupine_85> yes
[01:54] <Ackeubu_>  i need too split a vfat drive to get a new boot drive. how do i do that? there is maybe 75% stuffed with stuff to save
[01:54] <lupine_85> then post the new output of dmesg
[01:54] <lupine_85> and let's see why you're not getting an interface
[01:54] <zpeef> lz05: Got SIOCSIFFLAGS: No access
[01:54] <ens01mbn> *s* oki, i have (i think) a pointer to a char[]  with contains numbers. and want to cast to int, how do i do?
[01:54] <SVisor> int w=*(int)ptr;
[01:54] <lz05> zpeef: ok...try each individually as root, or with sudo in front of each
[01:54] <SVisor> oops : int w=*(int*)ptr; is more correct
[01:55] <nich0s> rasputnik: Hey there... I installed the package, now how do I use the proggie?
[01:55] <lz05> zpeef: remember, there is command history. work those arrow keys!
[01:55] <rambo3> bash_history
[01:55] <mathieu> ens01mbn: note that it's non portable code. depends on byte-ordering
[01:55] <morbid88> lupine_85: okay, I've got a new pastebin, I'll explain what you see there. I unloaded the module, saw that it's not in memory, then loaded it again. It gave me an error, but still loaded.
[01:55] <morbid88> lupine_85: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22914
[01:56] <Kosken> Could someone give me a hand on updating kernel. What command to upgrade?
[01:56] <zpeef> lz05: Ok it seems to be doing something now after running dhclient. But I don't know what
[01:56] <lz05> not everyone uses bash....but i don't know why....
[01:56] <nich0s> zpeef: It's contemplating your demise.
[01:56] <ens01mbn> get error: invalid type argument of `unary *'
[01:56] <lupine_85> ok, can you just dmesg without the |grep ?
[01:57] <lz05> zpeef: good...it's supposed to be getting info from your router about the network configuration
[01:57] <rambo3> morbid88, you do depmod -a after modprobe
[01:58] <finalbeta> anyone else having the problem that evolution can't sync the inbox? got it every two days or something, this product is really buggy and lacks many features thunderbird has :/
[01:58] <lupine_85> rambo3: you do it before a modprobe...
[01:58] <morbid88> ramo3: after I loaded it?
[01:58] <morbid88> rambo3: after I loaded it?
[01:58] <Hoxzer> is it possible to broadcast mic singal via sound server?
[01:58] <morbid88> lupine_85: I dit it before unloading.
[01:58] <lz05> zpeef: try pinging google or something
[01:58] <morbid88> I used modprobe -r
[01:58] <rambo3> morbid88, before
[01:58] <lupine_85> depmod is irrelevent in this situation
[01:58] <lupine_85> we know what the dependencies are, and they're loaded
[01:59] <morbid88> lupine_85: you can see the sequence. It loads. It just doesn't see the hardware.
[01:59] <morbid88> lupine_85: which, I must add, is FAR better than where I was yesterday :-)
[01:59] <ens01mbn> SVisor: didn't see you're correction... now i get a bus error exec the program
[01:59] <zpeef> lz05: No DHCPOFFERS recieved. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[01:59] <lupine_85> morbid88: sorry but I have to go :(
[01:59] <der0b> How do I install a ttf type font?
[02:00] <SVisor> ens01mbn: Does the pointer point into anything? And does it realy contain enought with bytes. int might be 8,16,32 or more bytes.
[02:00] <syouth> der0b: You want MS corefonts?
[02:00] <morbid88> lupine_85: thanks for the help anyway.
[02:00] <der0b> nope.  have a ttf that I want to use
[02:00] <lz05> zpeef: cool! umm...want to statically assign the ip?
[02:01] <SVisor> ens01mbn: bits not bytes... man
[02:01] <zpeef> lz05: Ok, then run dhclient again?
[02:01] <tristan_> hi there, anyone familiar with the 'sed' command?
[02:02] <ens01mbn> SVisor: i've got a char * token = strtok(line, ":"); and if i print the token i get the numbers correctly so i guess token is a pointer to the token?!
[02:02] <Jamminpotato> what is a simple way to find out my localmachine's ip address?
[02:02] <hantoo> ifconfig
[02:02] <lz05> zpeef: "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>" (ip can be your choosing - preferably with the first 3 sets matching your router's)
[02:02] <ens01mbn> SVisor: and how do i check if enough bits?
[02:03] <SVisor> ens01mbn: Ah thats wrong.. You still have a array of chars.. try "atoi( token )" instead.
[02:03] <nickolass> guys i ve downloaded edgy eft and the md5sum failed, does the installer of ubuntu check the md5 and the cd quality?
[02:04] <nich0s> dapper does
[02:04] <nich0s> so I would assume so
[02:04] <x1nto> guys what do they mean with this ? : -browse to apps>compiz>general>allscreens>options
[02:04] <x1nto> -double click on active_plugins in the options folder
[02:04] <x1nto> -add in each command in the following order
[02:04] <nich0s> believe it would be an option off of the live CD menu
[02:04] <SVisor> nickolass: And even if it does not. There is something wrong with the iso.
[02:05] <x1nto> gconf-editor
[02:05] <ens01mbn> svisor: Yaay... working... but how do i know if it's an array of chars or a string then?
[02:05] <archangelpetro> what lang?
[02:05] <Shoiab> is ubuntu have support US Robotics USR5699B  56k  modem????????
[02:11] <SVisor> ens01mbn: We are so off topic as we can be. Maybe a good C book would be nice.
[02:11] <ens01mbn> svisor: *s* ok, thanks for your help, very thankfull!!!
[02:11] <zpeef> lz05: It has a static ip now. Still no pong from the router nor google.com
[02:11] <SVisor> ens01mbn: In C.. An array of chars terminated with a NULL 0x00 is a string. And thats all from me on this topic.
[02:11] <lz05> zpeef: after that "route add default gw <router ip> eth0" and echo "nameserver <router or other dns server>" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[02:11] <x1nto> can somebody help me with a little compiz problem
[02:11] <Kosken> how to update kernel? :S
[02:11] <x1nto> that I dont understand ?
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: maybe
[02:11] <archangelpetro> compiz?
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: but i think not
[02:11] <x1nto> hi
[02:11] <x1nto> wel
[02:11] <x1nto> its quite stupid
[02:11] <x1nto> :p)
[02:11] <x1nto> youll know it
[02:11] <Shoiab> is ubuntu have support US Robotics USR5699B  56k  modem????????
[02:11] <x1nto> :p
[02:11] <x1nto> jirihavelka:  gconf-editor
[02:11] <SVisor> Shoiab: If its extern COM modem yes.
[02:11] <x1nto> I need to go to
[02:11] <x1nto> and then these 3 steps
[02:11] <x1nto> -browse to apps>compiz>general>allscreens>options
[02:11] <x1nto> -double click on active_plugins in the options folder
[02:11] <x1nto> -add in each command in the following order
[02:11] <lz05> Shoiab: don't think so...i had one...it sucked. I found no linux support anywhere
[02:11] <zpeef> lz05: /etc/resolv.conf: No access
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: what with it, alt-F2, gconf-editor
[02:11] <x1nto> active_plugins ?
[02:11] <x1nto> I dont know what he means with ths
[02:11] <lz05> zpeef: with sudo?
[02:11] <rasputnik> zpeef: sudo
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: its easy, its GUI
[02:11] <x1nto> I cant dubble click on anythin
[02:11] <zpeef> That's with sudo
[02:11] <Shoiab> ok
[02:11] <Shoiab> its mean no support for it
[02:11] <Shoiab> then what about zoltix smart cobra lite?????
[02:12] <lz05> zpeef: do ls -l /etc/resolv.conf  and check permissions -rx-r--r-- 1 root dhcp...........
[02:12] <Shoiab> what about zoltix smart cobra lite????? is that modem have driver for ubuntu
[02:12] <rasputnik> lz05: root never has to check permissions, it's not that.
[02:13] <stirz> hello :-)
[02:13] <lz05> rasputnik: you know...some things just slip my mind lol
[02:13] <SVisor> Shoiab: Google is your friend. All real modems (not Winmodem) are supported by Linux. How to know which modem is winmode or not. Cant help you there. I do not use modems, but try google for it.
[02:14] <zpeef> lz05: "ls: no such file or directory" "bash: /etc/resolv.conf: No access".... god damn
[02:18] <Shoiab> ok
[02:18] <jirihavelka> zpeef: try: less /etc/resolv.conf
[02:18] <x1nto> jirihavelka:
[02:18] <x1nto> didnt you see my pm ?
[02:18] <jirihavelka> x1nto:  what?
[02:18] <x1nto> anyway
 I did gconf-editor in term
 then I go to the options
 and on the right side
 I can add stuff
 but I dont think I need to add key's
 or am I wrong ?
[02:18] <zpeef> jirihavelka: what is that supposed to do? Now it says "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" "domain ubuntu" "(END)"
[02:18] <jamesuk> Hello everyone me again (with the internet problem) remember? :)
[02:18] <SVisor> jamesuk: Does it work now?
[02:18] <jamesuk> SVisor: no, but I have discovered something that may or may not help
[02:18] <jirihavelka> zpeef: in /etc/resolv.conf is DNS
[02:18] <lz05> zpeef: I've never needed more than just the nameserver lines to get the names resolved
[02:18] <rasputnik> jamesuk: holy water!
[02:19] <jamesuk> Svisor: I ran an update from the command line and it updated various things - I can now get secure (https) pages up in Firefox but not normal pages
[02:19] <zpeef> Arg, I give up
[02:19] <zpeef> lz05, thanks for your help :)
[02:19] <jirihavelka> zpeef: only write nameserver ip
[02:19] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I've already ruined 1 computer with that!
[02:19] <lz05> zpeef: is it working?
[02:19] <williswatson> Is Hiweed better than Ubuntu  ?????
[02:19] <rasputnik> jamesuk: yes, but at least its free of vampires now
[02:19] <zpeef> lz05: No doesn't work
[02:20] <rasputnik> williswatson: course it is , that's why we're all using ubuntu
[02:20] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes but my laptop smells of garlic now too! :)
[02:20] <SVisor> jamesuk: Someone, somewhere have put an hex on you.
[02:20] <x1nto> alt f2 doesnt do anythin jirihavelka
[02:20] <x1nto> :p
[02:21] <jamesuk> SVisor: Is there anyway of removing the hex? :p
[02:21] <williswatson> rasputnik  u are  using Hiweed   ???
[02:21] <lz05> zpeef: well...not sure what else to try...reset the router perhaps? and then maybe go back to dhcp? whatever...
[02:21] <jamesuk> [anyone] : Is there an inbuilt firewall or something in Ubuntu thats letting me see secure pages but not normal ones?
[02:22] <jirihavelka> x1nto: ehm, in Gnome Desktop its default for run aplication, then write gconf-editor, on left navigate to your path, on right find your key, click right mouse and edit key
[02:23] <zpeef> Nah... I'll be back to Ubuntu once it works for newbies like me. Untill then, I'm going back to XP
[02:23] <SVisor> jamesuk: Beats me. Ask the local voodo priest. Whats different between https and http?!?!
 ubuntu uses a firwall by default called iptables a good frontend to this is firestarter
[02:23] <Kosken> Could someone help me for a second, im a complete newbie. I would like to upgrade to kernel 2.6.17, how to do this? :S
[02:23] <lz05> clear
is it not in the repos
[02:23] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Thanks can I run firestarter from terminal?
[02:23] <fredrin> I've got four ip's and interfaces on my box, eth0, eth0:1 ... eth0:3, I want to use iptables to re-route port 80 on eth0:1 to port 8081. How do I do that? I've used this iptables line on another computer with only eth0. " up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8180" How do I tell iptables to use eth0:1 ?
[02:23] <Kosken> Paddy_EIRE: Don't know :(
[02:23] <lz05> dammit...i was on the wrong track of mind lol...too f-ing tired
youi can run iptables from terminal, firestarter will be a gui sys tray based app
[02:24] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Thanks, where can I get firestarter - its not on any of my menus
do a search on the repos for it and you should be able to install with no prbs from there
[02:24] <gnomefreak> 2.6.17 is not a dapper kernel you would have to build it
[02:24] <SVisor> Paddy_EIRE: Ubuntu does not set up aby rules by default.
[02:24] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: dapper wouldnt have the 2.6.17 and never will
[02:24] <Paddy_EIRE> jamesuk> sudo apt-get install firestarter
you sure
your right oops that will be on edgy i think
[02:25] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: "E: Couldn't find package firestarter"
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: very sure kernels will never be backported and edgy is using the 2.6.17 kernel
??  try searching on synaptic
[02:26] <ubuntu321> hey
[02:26] <Kosken> gnomefreak whats the easiest way to get 2.6.17 on dapper?
[02:26] <SVisor> jamesuk: Anyway "sudo iptables -L" would list all rules. All chains should (and will) say "policy ACCEPT" and no additional rules.
[02:26] <jirihavelka> Kosken: why u need 2.6.17???
 whats the big deal with this kernal anyway?? whats it do that dappers current one does not
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Kosken: build it
[02:26] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: 0 packages listed
[02:26] <Kosken> jirihavelka: bcm43xx drivers
[02:27] <jirihavelka> Kosken: it isnt easy to compile your own kernel
[02:27] <gnomefreak> nothing Paddy_EIRE
thats a weird one thats where i got it from
[02:27] <Kosken> jirihavelka: I can imagine :(
[02:27] <jamesuk> SVisor: All say accept
[02:27] <Kosken> I actually did it once tbh :P
[02:27] <jake> anybody had any luck compiling the latest gnome?
[02:27] <Kosken> it was actually quite easy
[02:27] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: My installation is weird - its hexed aparantely!
[02:27] <Kosken> now I installed ubuntu on my laptop, and cant remember the commands
 ill pastebin my sources.list and then you can try again if you wish
[02:28] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Ok, you might have to tell me how to change sources
kk]
[02:28] <jirihavelka> How can i cut File, edit etc. from Firefox?
 1 sec
[02:28] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: No probs
[02:28] <jake> Kosken open a terminal and hit tab twice it will spit out every possible command
[02:29] <jamesuk> I am able to look at my bank account through https but not anything through http (very weird)
[02:29] <ubuntu321> Does any1 knw how to change your password in ubuntu?
[02:29] <infidel> i have an issue someone here might be familiar with i just install a printer and i have to push the button on printer to get it to print out
[02:29] <jirihavelka> ubuntu321: passwd nick
[02:30] <fatbrain> err, where do I find cli docs on how to manage my users / groups?
[02:30] <Przemcio78> hi, does anyone here use wengophone?
[02:30] <jake> ubuntu321 sudo passwd for root or system/administration/users and groups for user password
[02:31] <merch> jamesuk, that's hwo it should be. Why do you want to see sensitive info over http?
[02:31] <ubuntu321> cool
[02:31] <ChaosFan> fatbrain: man adduser, man useradd, man addgroup etc...
[02:31] <jamesuk> merch: It will only let me see https pages - http pages won't display at all for some reason
[02:31] <kovztch> slt moi je viens d'arriver et je cherche  intgrer un group
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace everthing in that file with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22917
[02:32] <fatbrain> ChaosFan: Thanks
[02:32] <ChaosFan> fatbrain: np
 Open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace everthing in that file with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22917
[02:32] <agt> !fr
[02:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:32] <jirihavelka> Paddy_EIRE: if you run gui aplication run gksudo !!!
[02:32] <CromagDK> anyone knows if theres a danish Ubuntu Channel somewhere ?
[02:32] <CromagDK> !dk
[02:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[02:32] <CromagDK> ah
[02:32] <kovztch> Slt paddy_EIRE je suis nouveau
[02:32] <CromagDK> :D
[02:32] <agt> :)
yeah your rigth oops
 use gksudo instead of sudo
[02:33] <merch> jamesuk, that's what I'm saying. https is secure, http is not. That's how your bank's site is setup. All transfer of secure information should take place via https.  There is no http in that case.
[02:33] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Do I just type that URL in the file?
 i dont speak frnech sorry
[02:33] <Paddy_EIRE> *French
[02:34] <erUSUL> !fr > kovztch
[02:34] <erUSUL> !fr
[02:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
no
[02:34] <CromagDK> !se
[02:34] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:34] <kovztch> Hello Paddy i am new
[02:34] <Paddy_EIRE> ohh
 then we have a prob....can u accept dcc
[02:34] <jamesuk> merch: Thanks I know that. My problem is that my setup will allow me to see a https site but no http site such as http://www.yahoo.co.uk - it just times out for some reason. :(
[02:34] <Netcad> Hi, is there somebody out there who can give me a hint on the following? I need to search a large directory structure for directories and where ever found delete all files in there.
[02:35] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: I think so
[02:35] <kovztch> Paddy could you help me
[02:35] <Netcad> Directory is .deleted for example
[02:35] <merch> jamesuk, Oh. I thought you were trying to see you banking sit via http. Sorry. :)
[02:35] <jirihavelka> Plz somebody who know how to cut File, edit etc. from Firefox?
be with u in a sec
[02:36] <agt> jirihavelka, you mean cut and paste text? or remove the menu bar?
[02:36] <x1nto> jirihavelka:
[02:36] <jirihavelka> agt: menu bar
[02:36] <x1nto> I was looking for active plugins but the key doenst exist
[02:36] <x1nto> I only have 1 key in it
[02:36] <ubuntu321> wat do you write to change the system/administration/users password? I've changed the root password by typing "sudo passwd"
[02:36] <kovztch> Paddy i am a central african and i don't speak english very well
[02:36] <agt> jirihavelka, try searching for the compact menu extension
[02:36] <x1nto> and there should b allot :/
[02:37] <hantoo> ubuntu321: its either root or users
[02:37] <jamesuk> merch: no probs
[02:38] <hantoo> or not.
[02:38] <daejavu> testing
[02:38] <ubuntu321> hantoo: i have changed the root by going "sudo passwd" so will that change both my root and user login password??
[02:39] <hantoo> that changes root password
[02:39] <merch> jamesuk, what browser? Firefox? Other browsers same problem?
[02:39] <hantoo> to change _your_ password, login to your account and do 'passwd'
[02:39] <ubuntu321> ok
[02:39] <jamesuk> merch: All browsers in Ubuntu
[02:39] <daejavu> Question : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?
james did you accept the file
[02:40] <ubuntu321> hantoo: thank you very uch it worked cya later!
[02:40] <daejavu> Question : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?
[02:40] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: It didn't come up
 are you using xchat-gnome
[02:40] <jamesuk> No I'm on Windoze MIRC
[02:40] <slacker_nl> lo
[02:41] <daejavu> Question : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?
 did u configure MIRC to accept dcc??
[02:42] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Yes it normally does
[02:42] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Do you want to email me the file?
 yes
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> pm your addy to me
[02:43] <lupine_85> daejavu: I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu here
[02:43] <lupine_85> you might be able to
[02:43] <lupine_85> !bluetooth
[02:43] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
you there....pm your email add to me
[02:45] <daejavu> lupine_85, :D
[02:45] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Just pm'ed it to you - did you get it?
[02:46] <daejavu> lupine_85, do u know how can i use the Bluetooth with the ubuntu system ?
[02:46] <erUSUL> !bluetooth
[02:46] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:46] <eneried> hello
[02:46] <eneried> :)
[02:46] <lupine_85> "that's really useful", I thought
[02:47] <lupine_85> it isn't, though
[02:47] <lupine_85> bluetooth--
[02:47] <xopher> How do I 'clean up' my system? From like unneeded packages etc.
 /join #jamesuk
[02:48] <justin_> xopher: sudo apt-get clean
[02:48] <gnomefreak> xopher: deborphan or to clean cache sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:48] <eneried> I have question. I changed my board and a lot of devices in my computer (last computer was damaged) and i want to put the ubuntu disk in the new machine. How can I upgrade the installation? Doues ubuntu automatically recognize my new hardware?
[02:48] <lupine_85> !gtkorphan
[02:48] <ubotu> gtkorphan: A graphical tool to find and remove orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-1 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 280 kB
[02:48] <justin_> If you mean removing packages, just go to synaptic - and look at what you have installed - note the ones with the Ubuntu logo beside them.. sometimes will mess things up if you uninstall..
[02:48] <daejavu> good the info that was required .. THanks alot guyz :)
[02:48] <xopher> Thanks, that I knew. But I meant like uninstall useless packages that you dont need..
[02:48] <lupine_85> eneried: as lang as you're using the default kernel and your hard drive still has the same logical address, you should be OK
[02:49] <justin_> xopher: Right click - "remove" .. "apply" in synaptic
[02:49] <lupine_85> !gtkorphan > xopher
 you must not be set up right on irc cant seem to pm u or send dcc to u
[02:49] <xopher> One more question, is it safe to remove all -dev packages if you dont plan to compile anything?
[02:50] <lupine_85> xopher: generally yes
[02:50] <justin_> xopher: Pretty much, but if they have the ubuntu logo beside them -- I would let them be..
[02:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Caqn some I send a file to someone here who will then send it to <jamesuk>
[02:50] <xopher> Im switching all my compiling to a chroot env.
[02:50] <lupine_85> hard to make general statements though ;)
[02:50] <eneried> I have the same disk, the same partition, etc, my question is about the hardware, What i have to do? Doues ubuntu automatically find the new hardware?
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss > jack_sparrow
[02:51] <lupine_85> eneried: all the drivers are in the kernel, so it should work fine
[02:51] <nalpha> guys there is a software to print out power point slide but i want to print like 4 slide on 1 page but maximum size... of every slide... ???
[02:51] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Join channel #jamesuk I am on there
[02:51] <justin_> eneried: Yeah
[02:51] <fatbrain> How can I gain access to my other users home folder? I tired chown otheruser:samegroup on homefolder but that didn't help
[02:51] <justin_> Unless you have some strange new alien hardware ;)
[02:51] <xopher> justin_, what does the ubuntu logo stand for?
[02:51] <lupine_85> but if your HD was /dev/hda and now it's /dev/hdc, for instance, you'll have problems
[02:51] <justin_> xopher: Deeply intergrated with the Ubuntu system
[02:51] <xopher> k, thanks
 so am i...?
[02:51] <nalpha> guys there is a software to print out power point slide but i want to print like 4 slide on 1 page but maximum size... of every slide... ??? so not like openoffice just print 4 side but not maximum so every slide show small...
[02:51] <justin_> Sometimes it may even remove "ubuntu-base" and that just screws everything up
[02:51] <eneried> then, I start ubuntu, and I'll wait until ubuntu do the rest of the work. I'm right? It sounds nice :)
[02:52] <vdepizzol> can qt apps simulate my gtk theme?
[02:52] <lupine_85> justin_: doesn't it mean "ubuntu official package"?
[02:52] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Weird - ok email me on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[02:52] <justin_> lupine_85: Not really, you can compile things from source - and they still show up with that logo, it means that the file is somehow tied to the core
[02:52] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: I have to go now but I'll be back on later
[02:52] <eneried> What must I do if sopmething does not work?
[02:52] <justin_> So if you see it and "remove" make sure -- it does not add additional items like ubuntu-core for instance ;)
 the email will be set in a sec
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> later
[02:53] <lupine_85> you mean ubuntu-base ?
[02:53] <justin_> Yeah, base --- forgive me it's early, I just woke up
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> eneried: Explain the problem, what does not work and if it is a device, give hardware details like make, model, chipset
[02:53] <lupine_85> removing xfsprogs will remove ubuntu-base...
[02:54] <lupine_85> ...but I don't need it
[02:54] <justin_> Well what is ridiculous is if you are on XFCE like me for instance, Xubuntu - and you install KDEBASE - you can never uninstall it.
[02:54] <eneried> Ok, then i start ubuntu, and wait until that point after making new questions :)
[02:54] <lupine_85> justin_: you can if you aptitude install it :)
[02:54] <eneried> thanks a lot, boys!
[02:54] <justin_> If you wish to uninstall KDE, it will uninstall ubuntu-base --- that should be fixed later, most likely in edgy, and the icon thing which appears on even non-official packs sometimes.
[02:55] <justin_> lupine_85: That is how I did it
[02:55] <lupine_85> aptitude install --reinstall <package>; aptitude remove --purge <package> might do the trick
[02:55] <lupine_85> oh
[02:55] <justin_> Piece by piece, if I wish to remove it - now I have to remove Ubuntu-base as well
[02:55] <justin_> Perhaps it only applies to Xubuntu
[02:55] <lupine_85> it's a metapackage, so is unimportant surely?
[02:55] <lupine_85> (except for dist-upgrade, anyway)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Make a full backup and blast away..
[02:56] <mikeconcepts> anyone up to helping me? there is a link that plays a streaming mp3 that I don't know what program to use to play http://heliosj.iddings.us:8000/seminolescanner.m3u
[02:56] <justin_> lupine_85: No it tanks Xubuntu --- I tryed it on another machine, freezes and can't find this and that bah! :P
[02:56] <lupine_85> very strange!
[02:56] <eneried> er...what is the comand for dissconect from a chanel?
[02:56] <lupine_85> sounds like b0rked repos to me... ;)
[02:56] <justin_> At least it is only KDE base ;) only 174 --- and I do like KPGP (whatever its real name is)
[02:57] <Nameeater> just the channel? /part #channelname
[02:57] <justin_> lupine_85: Yeah maybe, but keep in mind its XUbuntu and not Ubuntu either..
[02:57] <justin_> So its more of a minimalist sys
[02:57] <lupine_85> true enough
[02:57] <eneried> thanks, Nameeater
[02:57] <eneried> bye
[02:57] <lupine_85> but surely ubuntu-base is the same between the two?
[02:57] <justin_> I do not complain however, I love muh xfce+ubuntu hehe
[02:58] <justin_> lupine_85: Yup, it seems to handle packages differently though
[02:58] <justin_> Others have said the same thing, who use Xubuntu
[02:58] <Neo8750> xubuntu is ubuntu at heart =)
[02:58] <toxic_> Are java jar files in executable in linux ?
[02:58] <lupine_85> ubuntu-base + xubuntu-desktop
[02:58] <justin_> Neo8750: Well of course ;) I would not have it any other way heh
[02:59] <justin_> toxic_: Yes
[02:59] <toxic_> justin_; thanks
[02:59] <justin_> toxic_: As long as you have Java installed that is ;)
[02:59] <lupine_85> hmm. I can't see any kde dependencies...
[02:59] <lupine_85> ...wonder what causes it
[02:59] <toxic_> justin_: naturally :)
[02:59] <justin_> lupine_85: Not sure but I have sent the emails to the Xubuntu people - so we'll see what happens.
[03:00] <mikeconcepts> program for mp3 streaming?
[03:00] <justin_> mikeconcepts: You want to stream, or recieve them?
[03:00] <justin_> listen to them* recieve...
[03:00] <mikeconcepts> justin_:receive
[03:00] <justin_> If you want to send, Icecast
[03:00] <Paddy_EIRE> is there no python channel??
[03:00] <justin_> If you want to recieve and listen
[03:00] <justin_> Xmms
[03:00] <justin_> Paddy, Yes there is but you need to register your nick I believe
[03:01] <Paddy_EIRE> I found this tutorial on google anyone think its any good http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:Pqpt65tJ5VEJ:honors.montana.edu/~jjc/easytut/easytut.pdf+Non-Programmers+Tutorial+For+Python+filetype:pdf&hl=en&gl=ie&ct=clnk&cd=1
[03:01] <Neo8750> what init scrip loads tty1 etc.. ??
[03:01] <Neo8750> because i seem to have lost my actual console
[03:01] <rasputnik> Neo8750: /etc/inittab
[03:01] <mikeconcepts> justin_:specifically at this site which is a local police and fire scanner http://heliosj.iddings.us:8000/seminolescanner.m3u
[03:01] <lupine_85> Neo8750: it's all in /etc/inittab. run bt /sbin/init
[03:01] <justin_> Neo8750: Really?, How did you manage that?
[03:01] <justin_> :))
[03:02] <justin_> mikeconcepts: Xmms, you need to set your browsers to MIME type *.pls *.m3u - and associate XMMS with them - and your off.
[03:02] <Neo8750> justin_: i'm runing edgy and after last night i updated and i can't recall the package but it killed my tty1-6 and not gotten them back since hehe
 where do i register my nick
[03:02] <justin_> Neo8750: Ahh your the explorer ;P
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !register
[03:03] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:03] <mikeconcepts> justin_:thanks, I'll wrap my brain around that for a while
[03:03] <justin_> Paddy_EIRE: You need to msg NICKSERV and issue some commands, I forget what they are ---- /MSG NICKSERV HELP
[03:03] <justin_> mikeconcepts: It's simple :P same way as windows
[03:03] <justin_> Or so im told.. :P
 is there no website where i can do this
[03:04] <justin_> Paddy_EIRE: Nope not to my knowledge
[03:05] <xopher> lupine_85, thank you for the gtkorpan tip, really helps
[03:05] <Neo8750> hmmm
[03:05] <lupine_85> :)
[03:06] <justin_> Does anyone have a Radeon card?
[03:06] <Neo8750> well there in the file only thing i could see as being wrong is it was set defualt run level was 2 and should be 5 right?  or am i just remebering differnt distro?
[03:06] <W_McL> justin_: yes, why?
[03:06] <justin_> Has anyone tryed playing with the "radeon" driver options, such as "AccelMethod" "EXA" "EnablePageFlip" "1" <---? Have they been able to measure any true performance increase?
[03:06] <xopher> lupine_85, just hope I dont get too excited removing things :D sooner or later Ill be using only the terminal from a gentoo chroot :P
 do i enter the commands from in here
[03:06] <mcphail> Neo8750: runlevel 2-5 are the same thing
[03:06] <lupine_85> lol
[03:06] <lupine_85> portage++
[03:07] <justin_> Paddy_EIRE: No from the server window
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ik
[03:07] <W_McL> justin_: didn't try it, sorry
[03:07] <lupine_85> default runlevel for ubuntu is 2
[03:07] <Neo8750> mcphail: hmm well it doesn't make sense why i have no console then
[03:07] <justin_> W_McL: It's ok
[03:07] <justin_> Neo8750: Evolution man
[03:07] <justin_> :)
[03:07] <lupine_85> Evolution--
[03:08] <Neo8750> i don't want to evolv i like mt cli
[03:08] <Netcad> Is there something like a rmdir -R?
[03:08] <justin_> hehe
[03:08] <mcphail> Netcad: rm -rf
[03:08] <lupine_85> Netcad: rm -rf
[03:08] <Neo8750> Netcad: rm -rf
[03:08] <lupine_85> snap
[03:08] <lupine_85> crackle
[03:08] <justin_> pop
[03:08] <Neo8750> pop?
[03:08] <justin_> :D
[03:08] <lupine_85> no pop
[03:08] <justin_> Bang
[03:08] <justin_> ?
[03:08] <lupine_85> only a snap and a crackle
[03:09] <justin_> Indeed, Ubuntu does not need any stinking pop.
[03:09] <justin_> Another Justin???
[03:09] <justin_> Interesting
[03:09] <justin_> :D
[03:10] <Neo8750> ooo i just discovered
[03:10] <Neo8750> my consoles aren't missing i just can't see any text on them
[03:10] <Neo8750> because i tried loging in and makeing dir and it worked
[03:10] <justin_> You must feel silly
[03:11] <Neo8750> not really i mean it had a blinking cusour and all
nice one all registered
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[03:11] <holzmodem> im try to use IrDA, log tell me irda is successfull identified, and started, but i didnt receive any packet from irdadump.... one entry in the log saith >>  could not open /var/run/irattach.pid: Permission denied
[03:12] <vdepizzol> How can I install my Saa7133 capture device?
[03:12] <justin_> Paddy ;D
[03:13] <Kosken> :S why does it say that /usr/src/linux doesnt exsist when I can even see it when going to /ust/src and doing dir?
[03:13] <Kosken> usr
[03:13] <Kosken> *
[03:13] <slacker_nl> Kosken: permission issues I guess
[03:14] <Kosken> well, it should say permission denied?
[03:14] <slacker_nl> ok, good point :)
[03:14] <Neo8750> sounds like a good old splash problem
[03:15] <holzmodem> Kosken, why i installed an configure it with sudo
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> would someone check and see if their  gnome-art  program is working at this time? getting an error.. and i think its due to the gnome art web site being down
[03:15] <Kosken> trying to compile kernel 2.6.17
[03:15] <Kosken> though that would be quite hard if I cant get into linux dir :P
[03:16] <xopher> Whats a good textbased app with which you can monitor bandwidth with, expect iftop?
[03:16] <rasputnik> Kosken: it's probably a broken symlink
[03:18] <Kosken> rasputnik I think I found the problem actually :P
[03:19] <Neo8750> got console back
[03:19] <tourach> xopher: iptraf
[03:19] <xopher> tourach, thanks Ill give it a look
[03:19] <malice> What is the best program to use with a ipod. I want to add files and also get podcast. Gtk pod is nice but I can not figure out how to add pod casts to it
[03:20] <lupine_85> !best
[03:20] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:21] <Kosken> bah
[03:21] <Kosken> what was command to get build-essential package?
[03:21] <rasputnik> Kosken: apt-get install ?
[03:22] <Kosken> rasputnik: yeh but claims to be missing :O
[03:23] <rasputnik> Kosken: weird -  it's in the main repo
[03:24] <Kosken> rasputnik: well it said, "package build-essential isnot available, but is reffered to by another package
[03:24] <oem> hi all...i need help regarding including my floppy disk drive in the fstab file..i didn't find it there and it's not getting detected either...kindly help
[03:25] <Defunk> hi im new 2 linux, how do i run ".run" files from the terminal? (i tried "sudo ./applocation/appname.run")
[03:25] <hantoo> monitor goin off in certain time, how do i turn that off?
[03:25] <rasputnik> Defunk: where did you get it from?
[03:25] <Defunk> get what?
[03:25] <Defunk> the file?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> oem,  you could always mount it manually
[03:26] <rasputnik> Defunk: yes
[03:26] <Defunk> it's a driver for my ATi gfx card
[03:26] <Defunk> got it from the ATi main webbie
[03:26] <oem> how can i make my drives automount??
[03:26] <rasputnik> Defunk: doesn't it come with instructions?
[03:26] <mcphail> Defunk: you will need to make it executable
[03:26] <mcphail> Defunk: chmod +x file.run
[03:26] <Defunk> oh :)
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> oem,  automounting a floppy disk can be a pain.
[03:27] <Defunk> ok
[03:27] <Defunk> sec
[03:27] <oem> thanx
[03:27] <Defunk> now what?
[03:28] <mcphail> Defunk: execute it, as you were doing above
[03:28] <rasputnik> Defunk: now you can run it
[03:28] <Defunk> thx a lot guys! :D
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> oem,  hmm - its showing up under Places/Computer/Floppy for me.. and i dont have an entry in the fstab for the floppy.
[03:28] <Defunk> just out of curiousity - why did i need 2 run the 1st cmd on it?
[03:29] <mcphail> Defunk: google for "unix permissions"
[03:29] <Defunk> kk
[03:29] <oem> owe...can it be fixed?
[03:29] <mcphail> Defunk: it's a security thing
[03:29] <Defunk> ye figured it out :P
[03:30] <Defunk> thx anyway for the help m8
[03:30] <mcphail> np
[03:30] <rasputnik> oem: have you got a line like this in /etc/fstab?
[03:30] <rasputnik> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:31] <oem> there's no entry in the fstab file
[03:31] <rasputnik> oem: well put it in then :)
[03:31] <oem> i've checked my fdisk connection also
[03:32] <oem> thanx ...do i've to mount it every time i boot? how can i make it automount?
[03:32] <kozmic> lupine_85: I did a cp -a, worked perfectly. running on my ny hdd now :)
[03:33] <rasputnik> oem: you'd have to google - noone i know uses flopies anymore
[03:33] <oem> ;) thanx
[03:34] <gomek> How do I get a .deb package from the repo into my home directory?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> oem,  i dident need an entry in the fstab.. it showed up under places/computer/Floppy disk
[03:34] <mcphail> gomek: why do you want to do that?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> oem,  i then right click on it to 'mount' the drive. if you make a fstab entry - then that will override the default gnome mounting system
[03:35] <billytwowilly> what's the command to use instead of make install if I want to make a deb instead?
[03:35] <mcphail> gomek: if you just want to install the file, use synaptic or apt-get
[03:35] <mcphail> billytwowilly: install checkinstall
[03:35] <gomek> mcphail I don't want to install it.  I want to tear it apart.
[03:35] <billytwowilly> thanks mcphail I can never remember that;)
[03:35] <mcphail> gomek: then just browse the repo with a web browser
[03:36] <gomek> mcphail sounds good
[03:36] <mcphail> gomek: of course, if you install it there should be a local copy in the cache
[03:36] <gomek> mcphail nah, it's not installed
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !dpkg
[03:37] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[03:38] <Defunk> another question guys: ive installed the ATi driver and in the end of the installation it notes that "it is important 2 save ur X WIndow config file, and then write aticonfig....
[03:38] <Defunk> "
[03:38] <rasputnik> gomek: man apt-get - you want the 'apt-get source' command
[03:38] <Defunk> how do i save my X Window config file?
[03:38] <rasputnik> Defunk: understood - but if the 'magic' gnome stuff is b0rked he doesn't have  a lot of options
[03:38] <paul___> how can I add items to my CLASSPATH?
[03:38] <martin__> hi everyone. I need serious help, my xserver went the way of the pear this morning and I keep seeing the error "unable to load plugin: gconf", so I have reformatted and reinstalled ubuntu because no one would help me but the problem is still here, a little help?
[03:39] <rasputnik> Defunk: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /some/where/else
[03:39] <Defunk> rasputnik: what uve just said doesn't tell me anything ^^
[03:39] <sproingie> paul___: don't set CLASSPATH globally, use -cp when invoking java
[03:39] <Defunk> oh ok
[03:39] <jayteeuk> Defunk: Your X config file is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf so... yeah, what rasputnik just said. :D
[03:39] <Defunk> =P
[03:40] <sproingie> The Way of The Pear.  i wonder if that's a comment on PHP :p
[03:40] <paul___> sproingie: I need to add items to classpath cuz I need to use a dependency for one of the programs i need to run...
[03:40] <paul___> sproingie: maybe that doesnt make sense?
[03:41] <Defunk> rasputnik:  im getting a "permission denied" error
[03:41] <sproingie> paul___: then do java -cp /path/to/classes:/another/path:/and/so/on
[03:41] <rasputnik> paul___: that's fine, you're using the java command to start an app anyway, just add a '-cp' flag
[03:41] <gomek> mcphail thanks for the help!  ^^
[03:41] <sproingie> paul___: setting classpath globally will cause you much suffering later
[03:41] <paul___> sproingie: is that permanent or temporary?
[03:41] <gomek> rasputnik it's not really the sources I want, but thanks anyway
[03:41] <sproingie> paul___: it's for that one time you run it
[03:42] <paul___> sproingie: are those colons or semicolons?
[03:42] <rasputnik> Defunk: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[03:42] <sproingie> paul___: colons
[03:42] <sproingie> paul___: you'd use semicolons on windows
[03:42] <paul___> sproingie: kk thanks I'll try that
[03:43] <rasputnik> gomek: then use the '-d' flag (download only)
[03:43] <krang> anyone got a recommendation for a good program to extract an ISO file?
[03:44] <sproingie> mount
[03:44] <rasputnik> krang: what, to create one, or to read it?
[03:44] <mjr> krang, sudo mount -oloop -tiso9660 file.iso /where/to
[03:44] <krang> rasputnik: to extract the file to a directory
[03:44] <sproingie> mount it then copy it
[03:44] <mjr> then just copy stuff out if you want it out
[03:44] <krang> mjr: ooh, methinks that'll do the trick. Thanks!
[03:44] <mjr> sudo umount /where/to when you're done
[03:45] <sproingie> gnome should have iso automounting built in
[03:45] <Defunk> ok thx again rasputnik :P
[03:45] <sproingie> dunno if it does, but it sure should
[03:45] <mjr> sproingie, it would be nice if it'd be make easy, yes
[03:45] <sproingie> could use fuse to not even need root
[03:46] <sproingie> heck all filesystems should use fuse.  userspace is faster
[03:46] <sproingie> can't really use threads in kernel mode
[03:46] <mjr> well you can
[03:46] <sproingie> yeah with much agony
[03:46] <mjr> but I am a proponent of userspace filesystems (and microkernels ;)
[03:46] <mjr> and yes, fuse for mounting image files would seem to me a good solution, but is there fuse iso support yet?
[03:46] <sproingie> kernel allocator is also primitive, userspace malloc is much faster
[03:47] <sproingie> tho for filesystems with fixed blocks i dont suppose it matters
[03:47] <krang> mjr, rasputnik: if you mount an ISO file, can you add a couple of files and unmount it, then burn it?
[03:48] <mjr> krang, no, you can't
[03:48] <sproingie> you dont need to mount an iso file to burn it
[03:48] <krang> mjr: curses
[03:48] <sproingie> with recent kernels you can burn with dd
[03:48] <rasputnik> krang: sadly not - would be nice, wouldn't it?
[03:48] <krang> sproingie: I know, I want to edit it then re-burn. No big deal, 5 minutes lost.
[03:48] <mjr> ISO is pretty much a write-once filesystem
[03:48] <krang> rasputnik: I know :-(
[03:49] <sethk> krang, you have to extract to a normal file system, add the files, and create a new iso
[03:49] <mjr> (multisessions aside, but those need to be just that, multisession)
[03:49] <sproingie> krang: iso mount is not writable, it packs the files with pretty much no room.  you'll want to just burn a data cd with mkisofs or some gui thing like gnomebaker or k3b
[03:49] <Neo8750> so that the new name begins with a 'K' and a two-digit number, where the
[03:49] <Neo8750> number is the difference between the two-digit number following the 'S'
[03:49] <sproingie> personally i can't recommend k3b enough
[03:49] <Neo8750> in its current name, and 100.
[03:50] <Neo8750> say its S25
[03:50] <Neo8750> whats the new one? K75 ?
[03:50] <krang> sproingie: mkisofs is fine by me. none of this namby-pamby button clicking :-)
[03:50] <infidel> anyone know where i an get the lotus notes zip file?
[03:50] <sproingie> krang: eh, i like brainless tasks like burning to have brainless interfaces
[03:51] <wgato> anyone suggest a program that i can run from the commond line to convert a mp3 from 1 bitrate to another?
[03:51] <kishore> can i hav xgl... in xubuntu
[03:51] <krang> sproingie: lol, fair point.
[03:51] <gnomefreak> kishore: yes please join #ubuntu-xgl
[03:51] <kishore> gnomefreak, jus.. joined
[03:52] <gnomefreak> i saw
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> krang: http://www.livedistro.org/taxonomy/term/376?PHPSESSID=fcca24dbaf9c3e986ec2c0e2a6bcc9e1  script to remaster a live cd
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> krang: The author is a user here and I halped with the original beta testing, rough edges but it gets the job done
[03:53] <krang> Jack_Sparrow: Sweet! Thanks dude!
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:54] <gan|y|med> hello
[03:54] <gan|y|med> any gimp gurus here (have tried #gimp)?
[03:55] <gan|y|med> can anybody help me with step 4 of http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/justin1/
[03:55] <vdepizzol> my SAA7133 tv turner is not working. What I do?
[03:56] <tRSS> how can I download a folder (and all its contents) from a remote ftp site from bash, such that it is resumble as well (like what wget does)?
[03:57] <mcphail> tRSS: use wget?
[03:57] <tRSS> how to?
[03:58] <mcphail> tRSS: i'm maybe not understanding your question, but wget is quite capable of downloading from ftp
[03:58] <tRSS> how do add login credentials to wget?
[03:58] <jay_> What is Unix and linux, and their relationship?
[03:59] <kozmic> tRSS: have you seen at wget --help ?
[03:59] <mcphail> tRSS: that is clearly documented in the man page
[03:59] <tRSS> alright let me
[03:59] <erUSUL> jay_: linux is unix-like OS. You can not call linux a UNix becouse Unix is a TM of opengroup or someone else
[04:00] <mcphail> tRSS: i hate saying "RTFM", but it would have saved you some time on this occasion
[04:00] <sproingie>  actually linux passed unix certification some years ago
[04:01] <mjr> jay_, yeah, what erUSUL said. For the bulk of any practical purposes, GNU/Linux is an Unix OS though.
[04:01] <sproingie> it never applied for SUS tho.  i don't know if anyone ever has
[04:01] <tRSS> mcphail: i was just kiddin' man. just felt being shouted at again, i.e. RTFM!!! lol, that was good
[04:01] <mcphail> tRSS: :)
[04:01] <erUSUL> sproingie: yes a version of linux (a Caldera now SCO) pased the cert but linux changes so fast that it does not make sense to cert it
[04:02] <oscar8x> hi
[04:02] <sproingie> linux is the standard commercial OS's are targeting at API and ABI level anyway
[04:03] <sproingie> erUSUL: i remember linux booting with some line about POSIX certification.  i think it was suse actually
[04:03] <LookTJ> POSIX?
[04:03] <sproingie> !posix
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about posix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <sproingie> ubotu: you suck
[04:03] <LookTJ> i havent heard that sine editing the registry in xp
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <LookTJ> since*
[04:04] <LookTJ> !POSIX
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about POSIX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <LookTJ> stupid bot
[04:04] <sproingie> posix was the standard for unix system level interface
[04:05] <sproingie> the term was coined by none other than RMS
[04:05] <sproingie> now it's called Single Unix Specification
[04:05] <erUSUL> sproingie: yes lionux is posix but so is windows too (the minimum posix necesary to comply with USA federal regulations)
[04:05] <nosse> I'm trying to install screem, but I have no idea how it should happen
[04:05] <fyrestrtr> nosse: sudo apt-get install screem
[04:05] <erUSUL> nosse: sudo apt-get install screen
[04:06] <sproingie> erUSUL: they dropped the posix subsystem, replaced it with SFU
[04:06] <nosse> tryed that, it didn't work
[04:06] <erUSUL> !repos > nosse
[04:06] <erUSUL> !repos
[04:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:06] <MetaMorfoziS> !cvscedega
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> nosse: enable multiverse and universe repositories, and then try again.
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvscedega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <MetaMorfoziS> !cedega
[04:06] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:06] <sproingie> erUSUL: posix was actually a subsystem that was theoretically on equal footing with win32, not implemented on top of it.  in reality it was always junk
[04:06] <sproingie> er nt's posix that is
[04:07] <jay_> How can i design Graphic User Interface programs under Linux? Just like windows' MFC, what kind of tools I can use?
[04:07] <sproingie> pretty sure the whole "subsytem" architecture is gone from vista
[04:07] <fyrestrtr> jay_: gtk or qt
[04:07] <fyrestrtr> jay_: and, java of course.
[04:08] <Farrier> Question: So I tried to upgrade breezy to dapper, now it won't boot ("Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2)"). I don't have any boot disks, just the install CD for breezy. Any idea how I should go about fixing it?
[04:08] <sproingie> gtk, qt, wxwidgets, java.  personally i recommend the last two
[04:08] <sproingie> netbeans makes java guis that are actually purty
[04:08] <nosse> erUSUL: that !repos > nosse worked fine, ubotu openes a private window
[04:08] <fyrestrtr> !grub > Farrier
[04:08] <erUSUL> jay_: first choose your widget lib gtk (gnome) qt (kde) or wxwidgets...  then the language you want to use c c++ python....
[04:09] <sproingie> i would choose the language then see what toolkit is least painful for that language
[04:09] <erUSUL> nosse: good screen is in universe afaik
[04:09] <Farrier> Thanks, fyrestrtr :)
[04:09] <Nebb> hi there - I was wondering if it's possible to use an ipod as a hard drive on which to install ubuntu (6.06 LTS) - the catch is my BIOS doesn't support booting from USB...
[04:09] <erUSUL> !info screen
[04:09] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[04:09] <sproingie> choosing a language is a great source of analysis paralysis tho
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> Nebb: no, you can't do that, even if it did boot from usb.
[04:10] <Nebb> why not?
[04:10] <erUSUL> nosse: screen is in main you should have been able to install it without enabling universe nor multiverse
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> Nebb: because, ipod's don't work like that.
[04:10] <sproingie> people have used ipods as external hdd's
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: that's not what I meant.
[04:11] <sproingie> which seems like a mighty expensive way to have an external HDD
[04:11] <Nebb> it's all I have ATM.
[04:11] <seshomaru> hello , hoe do i extract a tar.gz file thru the terminsl?
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> seshomaru: tar xvzf filename.tar.gz
[04:11] <sproingie> it's non-trivial and like fyrestrtr said, you probably cant boot from it anyway
[04:12] <erUSUL> seshomaru: tar xvzf file.tgz
[04:12] <Nebb> bugger.
[04:13] <seshomaru> fyrestrt1, erUSUL  how do I direct the output to /var/lib/tftpboot?
[04:13] <seshomaru> i mean i want6 to extract it to that dir
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> seshomaru: cd /var/lib/tftpboot first
[04:13] <erUSUL> seshomaru: tar xvzf file.tgz -C /path/to/dir (iirc check the man page)
[04:14] <nosse> erUSUL: I'm speaking of screem, not screen
[04:14] <fyrestrtr> nosse: I told you already, enable multiverse and universe, then install it from synaptic or by using apt-getl
[04:14] <erUSUL> nosse: dohh :(
[04:14] <erUSUL> !info screem
[04:14] <ubotu> screem: A GNOME website development environment. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2051 kB, installed size 7672 kB
[04:14] <seshomaru> fyrestrt1, , erUSUL  thank you... (will check man page...)
[04:14] <nosse> fyrestrtr: Im just reading those links
[04:15] <erUSUL> nosse: it is main too... can you post the error you are getting to a pastebin??
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> nosse: are you on dapper or something else?
[04:15] <nosse> dapper
[04:15] <nosse> and using gnome
[04:16] <nosse> and I loaded some package from sourceforge
[04:16] <sproingie> how's edgy these days ... stable enough for everyday?
[04:16] <fyrestrtr> nosse: then just type 'sudo apt-get install screem' at the terminal.
[04:17] <gubluntu> how do i connect to another system over serial.. its all plugged in on com1?
[04:17] <erUSUL> !edgy
[04:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !schedule
[04:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:18] <nosse> ok, now its working, I first tryed "sudo apt-get install screem-0.16.1", and it didn't find it
[04:18] <erUSUL> gubluntu: how do you want to connect SLIP or serial terminal?
[04:18] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: no, not for everyday use.
[04:18] <nosse> thanks :)
[04:18] <gubluntu> !slip
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <gubluntu> !SLIP
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SLIP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <gubluntu> serial terminal?
[04:19] <selinuxium> nosse: type apt-cache search screem     and see what comes out. then uese that to install
[04:19] <erUSUL> gubluntu: use minicom or screen and a null modem cable
[04:19] <erUSUL> gubluntu: you have to enable serial login in the system you are connecting to
[04:19] <selinuxium> nosse: it will probably be    sudo apt-get install screem    to install it.
[04:20] <erUSUL> gubluntu: i do not remember all the details please search google for a how to
[04:20] <james296> How can I uninstall DC++ that was in Automatix? I cant seem to uninstall it for some reason
[04:20] <gubluntu> its enabled
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> james296: #automatix is where you want to ask that.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: Might be a good question for #Automatix
[04:20] <james296> ok thank you
[04:21] <selinuxium> !automatix > selinuxium
[04:22] <fyrestrtr> selinuxium: /msg ubotu automatix ;)
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> selinuxium: We were not trying to be rude to him.  But it gets tiring fixing systems that #Automatix had messed up. Which is why it is NOT recommended
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: Thanks.. I had not thought to do it that way..
[04:23] <xopher> how long does it on avg. take to create a pbuilder env. ?
[04:23] <james296> well theres like no one responding in that room and hardly anyone in it...
[04:24] <guillem101> hmm, compiz does not find gconf plugin anymore with the new update... any clues?
[04:24] <sproingie> the automatix guy should just start his own distro
[04:24] <james296> LOL
[04:24] <james296> it does improve Ubuntu dramatically though
[04:25] <sproingie> so does doing it right
[04:25] <james296> what?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: And it works 95% of the time.. sounds good until you figure 1 in 20 do wrong
[04:25] <bXi> can somebody here recommend a way to print 1 (huge) image accross multiple pages
[04:25] <kozmic> i do it manually, ive had too many weird things happen with automatix
[04:25] <selinuxium> fyrestrt: Jack_Sparrow: i can assure you that !automatix > selinuxium works to send a private message to me detailing what the bot has to say! :) I wasn't being funny!
[04:25] <gubluntu> !automatix > gubluntu
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> guillem101: great question for #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl :)
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> bXi: file > print in gimp?
[04:25] <kozmic> !automatix > kozmic
[04:26] <james296> this really annoys me...
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> selinuxium: I agree but fyrestrtr's way means no one even needs to see !Whatever > You
[04:26] <james296> I cant find DC++ ANYWHERE in Synaptic...
[04:26] <MetaMorfoziS> what does this mean? :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22927 i'm isntalled call of duty with loki installers...
[04:27] <gubluntu> guillem101, 'compiz-start' in terminal to start, 'csm' to configure
[04:28] <selinuxium> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I see that. It was the way I used to do it anyway! But I suppose that way other helpers can see what has been sent to other people. I wont use it for myself...
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np I do it for others as well...  I learned alot watching how the bot responds
[04:29] <bXi> fyrestrtr: somehow i dont even have a print command :/
[04:30] <fyrestrtr> bXi: installed a printer?
[04:31] <nosse> selinuxium: It allredy worked
[04:31] <bXi> yeah
[04:31] <erUSUL> bXi: my best bet is to try with gimp....
[04:31] <selinuxium> nosse: cool! :)
[04:32] <nosse> would someone like to recommend some other html editor?
[04:32] <bXi> erUSUL: and guess where i dont have a print command :p
[04:32] <bXi> nosse: what do you use?
[04:32] <gubluntu> !nvu
[04:33] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[04:33] <sproingie> nvu is okay if you can deal with the horrible bugs
[04:33] <nosse> well, mostly I have used pico, but I have tested notepad++ for windows and it seemed really nice
[04:33] <bXi> for kde you have quanta\
[04:33] <bXi> which is nice
[04:34] <sproingie> actually come to think of it, nvu's not okay, i switched back to emacs
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> nosse: scite, screem, gvim, quanta, mozilla composer, nvu.
[04:34] <nosse> thanks
[04:34] <sproingie> worked ok for quickly slapping something together that i fixed with emacs tho
[04:34] <erUSUL> bXi: have you instaled all the gimp-print stuff?
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> oh, and cream too
[04:35] <LookTJ> anyone help with video card?
[04:35] <LookTJ> it's a ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
[04:35] <erUSUL> bXi: 'sudo apt-get install gimp-print'
[04:35] <bXi> i'll try that
[04:35] <LookTJ> i  need to install my ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 video card
[04:36] <sproingie> still hard to beat dreamweaver.  i wish adobe put out a "lite" version for, say $100 or so
[04:36] <erUSUL> LookTJ: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose the radeon or ati driver
[04:36] <LookTJ> k ill try
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I wold like to stress the importance of backups no matter what system you run.  Especially before making big changes... One line in CLI will save you lots of time and frustration
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> !ati > LookTJ
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !Patience > LookTJ
[04:37] <bXi> hmmm
[04:37] <bXi> i dont see special settings in gimp print which might help me
[04:38] <LookTJ> jack_sparrow: you didnt need to do that
[04:38] <nosse> I have tryed emacs, but it doesn't zoom, it colors the code but even gedit colors it better. with notepad++ you can hide parts of code and that is somethig I haven't seen any other program would do
[04:38] <bXi> nosse: try quanta
[04:38] <bXi> it highlights and allows you to hide bits
[04:39] <aurelienm> hi, I'm looking for the official ubuntu-ppc channel. Where is it ? Thanks
[04:39] <sproingie> any scintilla-based editor will do folding
[04:40] <LookTJ> brb
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: You could crop it up into howver many pieces or pages...
[04:40] <LookTJ> rebooting
[04:41] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: i was hoping there was a solution for this
[04:41] <abriceno> Hi, anyone can tell me how do i do to install flash plugin in firefox in ubuntu? when i enter in a page that has flash, firefox shows me an option to install plugins, but when i clic on it, the buttons doesn't show up well.. any ideas?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: I have seen it in windows but not in Linux.. Though there is probably one out there.
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> !flash > abriceno
[04:42] <knox_> abriceno, download from flash homepage
[04:42] <mbvo> is it possable to mount an ntfs hdd in ubuntu?  if so how do i do it?
[04:43] <knox_> When my firefox asked for it, I just followed the link it gave me, downloaded the file, extracted it and followed the instructions.
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > mbvo
[04:43] <gubluntu> !ntfs > gubluntu
[04:43] <Neo8750> does it message you it?
[04:44] <erUSUL> gubluntu: better do /msg ubotu ntfs and ask the bot in the pm window
[04:44] <Neo8750> !ipod > Neo8750
[04:44] <Neo8750> fancy that
[04:45] <Linuturk_code> !pda > Linuturk_code
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <A-L-P-H-A> Is there a way to upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>?  I found where it is /usb/lib/firefox... but there's symbolic links, which I don't how or if I should maintain them.
[04:45] <albiiiiiiii> hi everybody!!!!!
[04:45] <Paddy_EIRE> hi
[04:45] <albiiiiiiii> hi paddy
 whats up?
[04:46] <albiiiiiiii> could you help me please???
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> 874 People say hello
[04:46] <nosse> bXi: i'll try that then
[04:46] <Linuturk_code> 874 people get banned too ;p
[04:46] <knox_> A-L-P-H-A, you can probably download it from mozillas homepage. I havent done it thou, I am using <IP_ADDRESS>.
 little question you may or may not know the answer to, how can i make shift+3 be a pound sign?
[04:48] <Paddy_EIRE> manually
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> No idea.. It is on the US keyboard
[04:48] <dende> hi everybody
[04:48] <A-L-P-H-A> knox_, I've downloaded it... I have it extracted, but I just wanted to replace my old one.  I guess I could just wait till ubuntu's repositories get updated.
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Or else I dont understand your question
[04:48] <dende> i'm trying to use glade
it is on the uk one too, but i have recently eliminated the error upon logging in related to it and i would like to manually add this now....is it possible
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> i will be more specific 1 sec
[04:49] <dende> but i always get this error: Error running glade-- to generate the C++ source code.
[04:49] <dende> Check that you have glade-- installed and that it is in your PATH.
[04:49] <dende> Then try running 'glade-- <project_file.glade>' in a terminal.
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> you probably know more about it than I do at this point.. There must be an ascii table somewhere
[04:50] <andy17null> Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to make my screen change to 1280x768? It doesn't show up in the "Screen Resolution" dialogue box.
[04:50] <andy17null> It only has 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480 listed
 what exactly is ascii anyway
[04:50] <Paddy_EIRE> !ascii
[04:51] <ubotu> ascii: interactive ASCII name and synonym chart. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB
[04:51] <gubluntu> How do i initiate a terminal connection over COM1 from terminal?
[04:51] <albiiiiiiii> andy17null: try with dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg
[04:51] <knox_> A-L-P-H-A, ok. Sorry I dont know how, but search the forum, maybe theres a guide there?
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > andy17null
[04:52] <knox_> I dont think it reach the ubuntu repos, not until next release, or am I wrong here?
[04:52] <andy17null> I'm totally new to linux - do I simply type !fixres in a terminal window?
[04:52] <k31th> will dell all dir starting in 06 right
[04:53] <k31th> rm -rf 06*
 this is basically it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1719
[04:53] <andy17null> ah I found the link, thanks fyrestrtr
[04:53] <albiiiiiiii> andy17null: yep, type it in a terminal
[04:53] <albiiiiiiii> then follow the instruction!
[04:53] <Darkprince> is there a way to play games in wine or another program like cedega that i don't have to pay for?
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: wine is free
[04:53] <knox_> Darkprince, wine is free
[04:53] <knox_> :)
[04:53] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, but does it play games?
[04:54] <albiiiiiiii> in the first part of the reconfiguration you have to choose your video card driver...choose it right!! :-D
[04:54] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, i thought wine was a 2D windows emulator
[04:54] <gubluntu> darkprince, you play the games
 where do i put this --> xmodmap -e keycode 12 = 3 sterling
[04:54] <knox_> Darkprince, it play games.
[04:55] <npster> I need to convert mp3 or ogg file to wav file but to be lowest quality. Can someone help?
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: first, its not an emulator. Its a compatibility later for Windows. Second its not '2D' or anything.
[04:56] <albiiiiiiii> why the "make menuconfig" return to me something like "scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:141: error: LINES undeclared (first use in this function)" and more others lines as that??
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: go to http://appdb.winehq.org and see if the game you are after is supported or not.
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > albiiiiiiii
[04:56] <npster> !kernel
[04:56] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy I would say in a term
[04:57] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, thanks
[04:57] <npster> Can someone help with converting oggs to swav files ?
[04:57] <kingdong> does anyone know if there is a way to disable nonessential logging in ubuntu? my hard drive is very loud and it's annoying
 sorry to torture you but if you type xmodmap in a terminal could you help maybe walk me through how to map that shift+3 = sterling pound sign
[04:57] <james296>  how do I reset my xorg.conf?
[04:57] <mathieu> npster: what to you define as 'lowest' quality?
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> james296: sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:57] <npster> mathieu: I mean really low, so I can use it with my cell
[04:58] <albiiiiiiii> james296: crtl+alt+bkspace
[04:58] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: first, make sure you are using the correct keyboard mapping. If you have a UK keyboard, try xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.uk"
[04:58] <shawnr_> Anyone sell on ebay in here that know of a sellers tool for linux? or a way to get turbo lister 1 or 2 to work under wine ?
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Did you try pasting that line into a term?
[04:58] <knox_> npster, maybe try grip? http://nostatic.org/grip/
[04:58] <james296> it doesnt find it
 yeah it doesnt know what the rest is after xmodmap
[04:59] <james296> you must have typed something wrong in it...
[04:59] <gubluntu> phadthai, in terminal, typing "kill -HUP1" will start a terminal connection over com1?
[04:59] <gubluntu> er
[04:59] <gubluntu> wrong channel
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> gubluntu: no, that'll give you an error message :P
xmodmap:  unknown command on line commandline:1
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy xmodmap -pk
[04:59] <mathieu> npster: afaik, you can't choose quality with wav's
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy xmodmap -h   for helpful info
[05:00] <npster> mathieu: In windows you can
 cheers this looks promising
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: 12 is what you want to change
[05:01] <gubluntu> fyrestrtr, how so? (besides the typo space
[05:01] <james296> now HOW do I reset my xorg.conf?
[05:01] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, do you use wine to run games?
[05:01] <mathieu> npster: if you want to create the correct answer: 'touch bleh.wav'.... but i guess you want better quality than that
know that i dont understand why 12 ??
[05:01] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: I did a while back :)
[05:01] <mathieu> s/create/have/
[05:01] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, what do you use now?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE:  Got an hour.. I will explain it
[05:01] <mathieu> npster: but that's probably not what you want to hear
[05:01] <shawnr_> anyone? i have to make hundreds of listings in my store, doing it by hand isn't going to cut it
[05:02] <james296> ???
 ascii numbers
[05:02] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: I stopped playing Windows games, and I only play native linux games.
[05:02] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, why's that?
 i have an ascii calc
[05:02] <eaglescout> I need some help.  whenever I log on to Ubuntu, my internet goes down for my Windows, and Ubuntu doesn't connect.  Is there a reason why?
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: here is my .... 12         0x0033 (3)      0x0023 (numbersign)
[05:02] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: because I got bored of them :)
[05:02] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, and what games are native to linux?
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> here is mine keycode  12 = 3
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> noe sterling next to it
[05:03] <npster> mathieu: for my phone I need 1s to be 14.80 KB
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> *no