[03:27] <noelferreira> every time that comes a new kernel the system update but it never worked jmarsden
[03:27] <hockyhair> what is taking up the space on my drive!!!
[03:27] <hockyhair> this suxbad
[03:27] <jmarsden> noelferreira: That depends on what "broken" means... what happens when you do   sudo apt-get update
[03:27] <bimberi> d3cod3: you can (and should) download and install Java using synaptic/apt-get - the packages are in multiverse and have names like sun-java5-*
[03:27] <cremis> libgtk2.0-dev
[03:27] <hajiki> oh
[03:27] <bimberi> ubotu: tell d3cod3 about java | via /msg
[03:28] <noelferreira> erros with keys jmarsden
[03:28] <jmarsden> hockyhair: If  you think it is one big file, try   find / -size +50000 |xargs ls -lh to see the big files... ?
[03:28] <H3g3m0n> hockyhair: Try the 'disk usage analysis' in Applications>Accessories
[03:28] <cremis> hajiki: that work
[03:28] <hajiki> cremis: yep
[03:28] <hockyhair> H3g3m0n: what is the cmd for that tool
[03:28] <sn4kebyte> evening
[03:28] <eep> how can i get ubuntu to show file extensions?
[03:28] <craska> anyone know if Fiesty Fawn will include a LUKS option on install?
[03:28] <hockyhair> i dont use the gnome bar
[03:28] <cremis> good deal then
[03:28] <bimberi> eep: it does
[03:29] <noelferreira> i guess i need a fresh install jmarsden
[03:29] <denver> is there a package with all the man pages for glibc functions?
[03:29] <eep> no
[03:29] <eep> it doesn't
[03:29] <hou5ton> what on earth have i done to no longer be able to access my cdrom?  The eject function works, but I can't see what is on the CD ..... like it won't let me mount it?
[03:29] <jmarsden> noelferreira: Paste the output to pastebin and then someone can perhaps help you with it?
[03:29] <eep> i just made a text file and tried saving it as blah.txt
[03:29] <hajiki> thanks man... thank you very much
[03:29] <eep> but it isn't really a plain text file
[03:29] <w3ccv> eep:  Linux (all unices) don't havew "extensions" like DOS does
[03:29] <eep> it's an rtf
[03:29] <eep> oh
[03:29] <CharlieSu> Anyone know how to copy a CD into an ISO in Ubuntu
[03:29] <cremis> no prob
[03:29] <eep> then what do i do to change the file type
[03:29] <noelferreira> if i download a new iso it comes with the last kernel jmarsden?
[03:30] <hajiki> w00t it worked!
[03:30] <H3g3m0n> hockyhair: Carn't check unfortunatly, my gnomes dead
[03:30] <cremis> sweet
[03:30] <noelferreira> or the one from when the distro came out?
[03:30] <jmarsden> noelferreira: The latest ISO comes with the kernel for Ubuntu current when that ISO was finalized...
[03:30] <H3g3m0n> hockyhair: nm its 'baobab'
[03:30] <w3ccv> eep: the only way to change the file type is to change the file.
[03:30] <eep> what text editor should i use if i want to make plain text files
[03:30] <noelferreira> ya ok
[03:30] <hockyhair> H3g3m0n: tyvm
[03:30] <w3ccv> eep, use vo
[03:30] <eep> vo?
[03:30] <noelferreira> so a new download won't help me
[03:30] <w3ccv> eep, use vi  corrected
[03:30] <bimberi> eep:  what did you use?
[03:30] <noelferreira> i had problems with edgy
[03:30] <eep> where can i find vi
[03:30] <Zer0Her0> hey is there an easy way to test a HID device?
[03:31] <Zer0Her0> specifically a controller
[03:31] <w3ccv> on the command line
[03:31] <eep> bim i used the text editor that comes with ubuntu. it saves as rtf
[03:31] <noelferreira> so i returned to dapper jmarsden
[03:31] <cafuego> /usr/bin/vi
[03:31] <eep> alright thanks
[03:31] <bimberi> eep: Ubuntu comes with a number of editors, do you mean gedit?
[03:31] <eep> yes gedit
[03:31] <jmarsden> noelferreira: Edgy is fine here... but OK, Dapper should be fine too...
[03:32] <craska> is there anything similar to edit.com like the one found in DOS?
[03:32] <noelferreira> i had problem with rt61 wireless driver jmarsden
[03:32] <noelferreira> it worked just for a while
[03:32] <eep> alright i don't have vi
[03:32] <eep> how can i get it?
[03:32] <noelferreira> i tried amd64 and it seems to be fine
[03:32] <w3ccv> craska:  No, there many lots better, vi, vim, emacs
[03:32] <ubuntu> anyone know the command used by the installer to install the preseed ?
[03:33] <ubuntu> or any way to find that info on the live CD ?
[03:33] <jmarsden> eep: vim.tiny is a part of every Ubuntu install.  Try     sudo apt-get install vim if you want
[03:33] <w3ccv> eep,  look for vim - a vi clone
[03:33] <craska> anything that's not like Nano.  I hate Nano :)
[03:33] <Brunellus> vim.
[03:33] <eep> alright apparently it's already on here
[03:33] <craska> I'll give vim a whirl
[03:33] <eep> i think
[03:34] <Brunellus> vim is awesome.  but it is a steep learning curve
[03:34] <CharlieSu> How can I create a CD image file (iso image)
[03:34] <ubuntu> looking for a way to manually install the base system from the live CD       anyone ?     (not a newbee)
[03:34] <Brunellus> CharlieSu, mkisofs
[03:34] <jmarsden> craska: The two big names in Text editors in the Unix world arfe vi (vim) and Emacs.  Try both and use whichever you prefer.
[03:34] <eep> what i'm just looking for a plain text editor
[03:34] <CharlieSu> Brunellus: from the CD..  I have a CD in my drive I want to copy
[03:34] <w3ccv> eep: they both are,  they are not word processors
[03:34] <Brunellus> ubuntu:  must it be a livecd?  do you have access to an alternative CD? if so, just hit a server install.
[03:34] <hou5ton> Can someone please help me try to figure out why I've apparantly lost access to my CDROM?
[03:35] <ubuntu> Brunellus: no.   dialup
[03:35] <AlbinoRhino> CharlieSu I use Imgburn
[03:35] <Brunellus> h'mm.
[03:35] <ubuntu> CharlieSu: dd
[03:35] <eep> whoah
[03:35] <eep> i don't understand this vim program at all
[03:36] <bimberi> eep: try nano then
[03:36] <CharlieSu> ubuntu: i tried dd.  Didn't work
[03:36] <jmarsden> eep: then hit   :q!    to get out of it.
[03:36] <ubuntu> !work | CharlieSu
[03:36] <ubotu> CharlieSu: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:36] <eep> i exited it
[03:36] <nalioth> d3cod3: the java in the repos is the one you want.  use synaptic to install sunjava5-jre
[03:36] <CharlieSu> ubuntu: i did this dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=1024
[03:36] <eep> how do you select all the text then delete it
[03:37] <eep> because neither of them are doing that
[03:37] <nalioth> d3cod3: you should never need to download ANYthing to install.
[03:38] <craska> anyone know if Fiesty Fawn will include a LUKS option on install?
[03:38] <eep> yeah
[03:38] <d3cod3> i keep geting this
[03:38] <d3cod3> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[03:38] <eep> these text editors are cutting alot of stuff i'm pasting off
[03:38] <CharlieSu> ubuntu: is that the right syntax?
[03:38] <ubuntu> nalioth: you wouldn't off hand know the command to install the preceed or how to find that info ?
[03:38] <nalioth> !tell d3cod3 about java
[03:38] <eep> besides gedit, which i can't figure out how to save files as plain text using
[03:39] <ubuntu> CharlieSu: block size might be wrong for an iso.
[03:39] <craska> I had issues with FrostWire.  Wouldn't connect.
[03:39] <nalioth> ubuntu: know what?
[03:39] <craska> I gave up and went with Limewire :)
[03:39] <CharlieSu> ubuntu: When I do mount /dev/cdrom i don't see any files in /media/cdrom
[03:40] <ubuntu> nalioth: i need to install the pre-seed from the live CD   i know it's a single command but have no idea where to look.
[03:40] <nalioth> ubuntu: i have no idea what that is
[03:40] <d3cod3> it doesnt show any packages in my synaptic
[03:40] <CharlieSu> ubuntu: it is my Battle Field 2 CD. I'm trying to make an image of it so that I can mount it with Daemon tools in windows for fast loading of levels..
[03:40] <nalioth> !tell d3cod3 about repos
[03:40] <ubuntu> CharlieSu: audio cd's are not mounted...  if that's what it is.
[03:40] <nalioth> d3cod3: enable the universe and multiverse repos
[03:40] <jmarsden> CharlieSu: Are you sure it is an ordinary, standard CD ?
[03:40] <eddie> hi
[03:41] <bimberi> CharlieSu: does 'df' show it as mounted? if so, is /media/cdrom the mountpoint?
[03:41] <eddie> help
[03:41] <ubuntu> CharlieSu: oh.
[03:41] <d3cod3> how do i do that?
[03:41] <kitche> CharlieSU: it actually doesn;t matter if you make an image or not since the maps are on your computer not the cd
[03:41] <eep> alright, are there any non-terminal based plain text editors?
[03:41] <CharlieSu> /dev/hdd              700M  700M     0 100% /media/cdrom0
[03:41] <craska> gedit
[03:41] <eddie> I have 40 instances of firefox runnign and more opening... I just wanna get rid of
[03:41] <eep> how do you save files as plain text with gedit
[03:41] <grant> Hello mates, does anyone know how to disable the "ubuntu" auto login on the live CD? (I installed the live cd to my HDD and have a different user I want to use)
[03:41] <eep> it just saves ars rtf
[03:41] <eddie> 44 counting
[03:41] <craska> just put a .txt extention
[03:41] <jbroome> eddie: that's not right
[03:41] <eddie> what's the apt-get wayt to get rid og
[03:42] <jmarsden> eep: Emacs works either way, terminal based or GUI, but it is not really intended for beginners unwilling to learn it.
[03:42] <ubuntu> CharlieSu: dd if=/dev/hdd of=file.iso   should  do it.
[03:42] <eddie> jbroome: 50 now
[03:42] <eddie> 56
[03:42] <Shhukk> np: HIM  For You (Acoustic Version) [1:01/4:09]
[03:42] <eep> so is it possible for gedit to save plain text files?
[03:42] <kitche> !spam|Shhukk
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <jmarsden> eep: I don't know.... have you tried mousepad?
[03:42] <eddie> I am being bombarded 60 now
[03:42] <eep> what's mousepad
[03:42] <ubuntu> ok i'm gone looking for answers.  thanks for the ToD folks.
[03:42] <bimberi> eep: yes, that's all it's ever done for me
[03:42] <kitche> eep: like notepad
[03:43] <eep> kit how can i get it
[03:43] <jmarsden> eep: click on accessories then mousepad
[03:43] <eddie> how do I the fast way apt-get rid of firefox?
[03:43] <eep> i don't have it
[03:43] <eddie> help please
[03:43] <eddie> 70 counting now
[03:43] <jmarsden> eddie: Try killall firefox to get rid of the processes
[03:43] <motin_> how do I install php 5.2.0 on ubuntu? will this work you think? - http://www.linuxcompatible.org/PHP_5.2.0_for_Debian_3.1_third_update_s75910.html
[03:43] <jbroome> pkill firefox
[03:43] <kitche> !mousepad|eep
[03:43] <ubotu> mousepad: simple Xfce oriented text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 508 kB
[03:44] <Madpilot> !php | motin_
[03:44] <ubotu> motin_: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[03:44] <w3ccv>  eep:  use gedit, then when you're though dust save-as  Works here
[03:44] <motin_> Madpilot: I'll check that thanks
[03:44] <grandmaster_S> jmarsden, i can  ping <IP_ADDRESS> but i cannot add a line to resolv.comf
[03:45] <jbroome> even with sudo?
[03:45] <motin_> Madpilot: nothing there on php 5.2.0
[03:45] <grandmaster_S> how does it work with sudo
[03:45] <motin_> anyone else?
[03:45] <eep> w3 i did save as
[03:45] <jbroome> grandmaster_S: you need to sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[03:46] <eep> it doesn't give me the option of what kind of text file to save it as
[03:46] <Madpilot> motin_, PHP 5 is available, not sure of the exact version number
[03:46] <doleco> Hi, Recentley had to reinstall windows. It overwrote my MBR. and I dont know how to set grub back up as the MBR again
[03:46] <jbroome> you can't edit it as a regular user
[03:46] <jbroome> !mbr
[03:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:46] <bimberi> !tabcompletion | eep
[03:46] <ubotu> eep: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:46] <grandmaster_S> and the line, was it nameserve or nameserver ?
[03:46] <motin_> Madpilot: yes - the widely available versions are 5.1.2 for dapper, 5.1.6 for edgy
[03:46] <motin_> Madpilot: But I need the latest: 5.2.0
[03:46] <jbroome> nameserver
[03:47] <grandmaster_S> thx
[03:47] <Madpilot> motin_, ah, OK. Never bothered getting bleeding-edge PHP running, not sure how to go about it...
[03:47] <motin_> Madpilot: it got stable for about a month ago - not wanting to wait before the ubuntu team believes it is stable "enough" :)
[03:48] <mwhite> Hello everyone
[03:48] <blanky> NOOO IM SO PISSED
[03:48] <Madpilot> motin_, Ubuntu's packages are only updated at release of a new version of Ubuntu, so Edgy won't ever have 5.2, no matter how stable it is.
[03:48] <mwhite> is this the support chat room?
[03:48] <blanky> I forgot the pass to my old pc which I haven't used since june, it's running 6.06 xubuntu server mode :'(
[03:49] <dogfood2006> Boot from livecd blanky
[03:49] <ArrenLex> mwhite: So says the channel topic =P
[03:49] <blanky> dogfood2006: and do what, haha
[03:49] <mwhite> ;)
[03:49] <mwhite> how do I set an environment variable.. ie JAVA_HOME
[03:49] <bimberi> blanky: or boot into recovery mode, get a root shell, and change the password - 'passwd <username>'
[03:49] <dogfood2006> +1 bimberi
[03:49] <ArrenLex> !password > blanky
[03:50] <motin_> Madpilot: so it is impossible you say? to install from the repos?
[03:50] <motin_> on dapper...
[03:50] <blanky> bimberi: how can I boot into recovery mode
[03:50] <rBlong2us> hi
[03:50] <dogfood2006> I'm trying to find the doggone .bin file for my wrt54gl on ddwrt, can someone help
[03:50] <bimberi> blanky: it's an option on the grub boot menu
[03:50] <Madpilot> motin_, far as I know, yes. It won't be in the official repos, certainly
[03:50] <rBlong2us> how can I uninstall firefox the apt-get way?
[03:50] <w3ccv> mwhite, JAVA_HOME=/dir/dir/dir; export JAVA_HOME
[03:50] <blanky> bimberi: ooo thanks :)
[03:50] <bimberi> blanky: np :)
[03:50] <kitche> !firefox|rBlong2us
[03:50] <ubotu> rBlong2us: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:50] <mwhite> just type that in my terminal window that that is it?
[03:50] <ArrenLex> rBlong2us: apt-get remove firefox
[03:51] <Simei> how make the slash work on console?
[03:51] <kitche> ah remove :(
[03:51] <kitche> Simei: what slash you just press \ /
[03:51] <motin_> Madpilot: hmm ok - but hey - is it maybe possible to download deb-src and replace the source-tree with the one from 5.2.0 ? heard something similar worked with another app
[03:51] <Simei> _ /
[03:51] <Simei> this one
[03:51] <kitche> Simei: I see _/ you just press those keys
[03:52] <Simei> but they doesent work on console in the 6.10
[03:52] <raplhu88> is there a server release for ubuntu 6.10?
[03:52] <eep> so is there any way to get gedit or mousepad to save as a plain text file?
[03:52] <meheren> my computer doesn't have shutdown options any ideas? when i click system -> Quit it only has log off switch user hibernate and sleep
[03:52] <foomonkey> was support for "audioscrobbler" removed from rhythmbox? I've got it in the preferences dialog in version 0.9.3 but not in 0.9.6
[03:52] <blanky> bimberi: I'm screwed, I forgot my username too, but at least now I have more of a possibility of remembering :D
[03:53] <foomonkey> or perhaps I installed something on the one and forgot to do it on the other
[03:53] <kitche> blanky: you can find that by looking at /etc/passwd
[03:53] <eXcentra> foomonkey, go to edit > plugins
[03:53] <ArrenLex> eep: they DO save as plain text files.
[03:53] <w3ccv> eep: I don't know what you're doing ot gedit - it only saves to text here.
[03:53] <bimberi> blanky: or 'ls /home' - there will be a directory with the same name as the user
[03:53] <blanky> bimberi: oh, duh! thanks!
[03:53] <blanky> lol
[03:53] <blanky> and the change password is passwd <username> right?
[03:53] <eep> w3ccv:  when i save a file using gedit, it saves as an rtf file
[03:53] <foomonkey> eXcentra, thanks!
[03:53] <s|k> does Xubuntu have screensavers?
[03:53] <blanky> thanks kitche too
[03:53] <eep> i'm not doing anything at all
[03:53] <bimberi> blanky: yes
[03:53] <rBlong2us> unfortunately I just uninstalled firefox therefore I can't see the instructions of the latest uninstall
[03:53] <blanky> thanks!
[03:53] <dogfood2006> Ok looks like CFE.bin is the firmware file for wrt54gl
[03:53] <jmarsden> eep: mousepad saves to text files by default, and I think gedit does too...
[03:54] <grandmaster_S> jmarsden, it works
[03:54] <grandmaster_S> thank you
[03:54] <eep> jmarsden:  both mousepad and gedit as saving as rtf files. i haven't changed anything
[03:54] <rBlong2us> with 6.10 would it make the job just apt-get install firefox?
[03:54] <rBlong2us> can that make a difference?
[03:54] <meheren> my computer doesn't have shutdown options any ideas? when i click system -> Quit it only has log off switch user hibernate and sleep
[03:54] <blanky> I REMEMBER NOW! AFTER DOING LS /HOME, I CALLED IT UBOTU I FORGOT!
[03:54] <raplhu88> how do u install LAMP on ubuntu 6.10?
[03:54] <blanky> lol, and I was in this channel too, how could I forget, I wub you ubotu!
[03:54] <blanky> !lamp raplhu88
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lamp raplhu88 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <jmarsden> grandmaster_S: You're welcome.  There is more you really should do to fix the router, but at least it is working well enough to be usable now.
[03:54] <blanky> !LAMP
[03:54] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[03:55] <BrightEyes`> how do i load the kde start bar in other window managers? i want to use xfce but using the kde taskbar
[03:55] <blanky> !LAMP | raplhu88
[03:55] <ubotu> raplhu88: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[03:55] <baconbacon> I have a process apt-index-watch that goes crazy every other second, for about one second. What is it and how can i stop it?
[03:55] <bimberi> blanky: lol (take care with those caps though)
[03:55] <w3ccv> eep: what do you mean by RTF file?
[03:55] <ArrenLex> BrightEyes: apt-get install kicker
[03:55] <cello_rasp> is gzip supposed to automatically archive stuff? i just noticed it zipping up some stuff on its own and im rather surprised
[03:55] <blanky> kay :)
[03:55] <ArrenLex> BrightEyes: And then run kicker.
[03:55] <baconbacon> !package apt-index-watch
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package apt-index-watch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <ArrenLex> cello_rasp: uh, no?
[03:55] <eep> w3ccv:  it's mime type is application/rtf
[03:55] <mwhite> sweet. I set JAVA_HOME thank you
[03:55] <eep> rich text file
[03:55] <eep> i think
[03:55] <BrightEyes`> ArrenLex: Im using suse :p
[03:56] <cello_rasp> ArrenLex: just gained 2Gb after gzip ran with root. For no noticeable reason.
[03:56] <meheren> does anyone know why my computer doesn't want to shutdown?
[03:56] <grandmaster_S> but now my bigger problem. i have got a newer wlan card from intel (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG WLAN (802.11a/b/g) ) and cannot install. what to do=
[03:56] <bobbie__4> Your computer maybe manic
[03:56] <ArrenLex> BrightEyes: Then why are you on the ubuntu channel?
[03:56] <jmarsden> eep: so you open Mousepad, type in a work, say "junk" and save the file as a file named junk.txt  Then you claim it really saved as RTF??
[03:56] <w3ccv> eep: how do you know it's mime type - use list (filename) and see what it is
[03:56] <eep> jmarsden: yes exactly
[03:57] <eep> w3ccv: i looked at the properties of the file
[03:57] <meisam> hi guys, does anybody know how to install IBM DB2 DBMS on ubuntu? (i really need it)
[03:57] <jmarsden> eep: what does file junk.txt say (in a terminal window)
[03:57] <w3ccv> eep: what with
[03:57] <ArrenLex> eep: translation: what does the command "file junk.txt" say?
[03:57] <eep> oh wait saving it as .txt worked
[03:57] <[Nige] > i tried installing dvdrip from automatix2 but i still have the same problem
[03:58] <LjL> !automatix | [Nige]
[03:58] <ubotu> [Nige] : automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:58] <eep> i was saving it with a different extension so it just saved it as rtf
[03:58] <eep> that's kind of annoying
[03:58] <flummoxd> !worksforme
[03:58] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:58] <meheren> my computer doesn't have shutdown options any ideas? when i click system -> Quit it only has log off switch user hibernate and sleep
[03:59] <[Nige] > LjL, this is a fresh copy of ubuntu, and i have the same problems I had without automatix
[03:59] <eep> actually no
[03:59] <eep> even if i save it as .txt it still saves it as an rtf file
[04:00] <ArrenLex> eep: what does the command "file junk.txt" say?
[04:00] <jmarsden> ArrenLex: That's what I asked him a while ago...
[04:00] <motin_> Madpilot: I think I have found a way now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687
[04:00] <ArrenLex> jmarsden: yes, I know.
[04:00] <eep> ArrenLex:  set.txt: Rich Text Format data, version 1, Apple Macintosh
[04:01] <ArrenLex> ... o____o
[04:01] <ArrenLex> eep: and file -> save does not provide options for changing the filetype?
[04:01] <eep> ArrenLex: no
[04:02] <w3ccv> eep: are you using Ubunto (or any other linux) or OsX
[04:02] <eep> i'm using ubuntu
[04:02] <hajiki> hey just one more question... can i put transmission in the applications menu?? can you tell me how?
[04:02] <eep> actually wait. i just noticed something in what i was trying to save
[04:03] <eep> it has this line.. is it related? {\rtf1\mac\ansicpg10000\cocoartf102
[04:03] <eep> that's the first line
[04:03] <tx22> hi guys, currently I am on a windows machine trying to work out what the best code to program with. I want to learning a program language which is cross platform between windows and linux.. What's the easiest and best code to learn?
[04:03] <ArrenLex> That would do it.
[04:03] <bimberi> eep: very :)
[04:03] <eep> oh wait yeah. why didn't i notice this
[04:03] <eep> it's supposed to be rtf. oops
[04:03] <ArrenLex> tx22: That's very subjective... "easiest" is probably Java, "most used\most effective\most powerful" is c\c++
[04:04] <eep> well thanks for trying guys. sorry :1
[04:04] <rBlong2us> lovely Your system was affected by this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/30791
[04:04] <rBlong2us> that was what was restarting ff a thousand millions times
[04:04] <eep> i've never seen that sort of thing before. that's pretty cool
[04:04] <flummoxd> tx22: you might want to look into python, if you've never programmed before
[04:04] <tx22> ArrenLex:  I know that c is a bit too heavy from what I've heard, isn't python the easiest?
[04:04] <w3ccv> tx22,  Depends on what your want to do,  Perl, php, C/C++, (the list is endless
[04:04] <tx22> flummoxd:  and with python, where do I begin?.. any good sites?
[04:05] <b_d_p> are the 'open week' irc sessions being logged and hosted somewhere? they're all between 2-8am local time for me
[04:05] <ArrenLex> tx22: Python is pretty easy, yes, if you already have your heard around object orientation. However, as an interpreted language, it's about 20 times slower than C.
[04:05] <Daylighter> hey guys, where are the kde headers located in Ubuntu?
[04:05] <bimberi> tx22: python would be a good choice, but that's just my opinion
[04:05] <Terminus> tx22: it's not about the language, it's about how your solution approaches the problem. in short, any language will do. =)
[04:05] <tx22> w3ccv:  Well, I want to learn how to mkae small applications for use in windows and linux.
[04:05] <ArrenLex> Daylighter: you need to install kdelibs4-dev
[04:05] <Daylighter> I did
[04:05] <Pupeno> Do you know any program particularly well suited to make printed big labels, for advertising. Something like the old print master for DOS ?
[04:06] <ArrenLex> Daylighter: then dpkg -L kdelibs4-dev
[04:06] <ArrenLex> Pupeno: glabels?
[04:06] <Daylighter> or perhaps I didnt
[04:06] <Daylighter> thank you, installing now
[04:06] <suran> I have USB2, using ehci ... but I am still only getting about 2-3 MB/s and my load average is at about 10. How can I make this go quicker ???
[04:07] <czedlitz> i am in the process of replacing a laptop screen with a  new one, but when i plug it in it comes on with a purple haze over the whole screen, when i put the old cracked one back in, that is broke it comes on black as i should be. Any ideas, and could it be incoompatible for some reason ?
[04:07] <grandmaster_S> jmarsden do you know how to install wlan cards, which are not supported by ubuntu?
[04:07] <flummoxd> tx22: there is almost too much information out there, but lots of good beginners tutorials. try http://diveintopython.org/ http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide
[04:07] <w3ccv> tx22, still depends - processing power - C/C++, text manipulation, perl, PHP, python; working with MySQL php, perl. Do you want an interperted language or a compiled? Heavy Math - then Fortran
[04:07] <jmarsden> grandmaster_S: No... I prefer wired networks whenever possible!
[04:08] <blanky> hey guys, I'm in this source tree on my old computer and I'm looking for a specific text file, is there a way to recursively look for every text file?
[04:08] <tx22> w3ccv:  Nope, the program I wish to develop are very small and not scientific. I want these apps for small tasks, for example an alarm...
[04:08] <blanky> maybe something like ls --recursive (such thing?) | grep .txt
[04:09] <jmarsden> blanky: ls -R may be what you want?
[04:09] <blanky> anyone?
[04:09] <allen> moteboard asrock, in dualvideo error in unbutu with ndivia fx2000 card
[04:09] <ArrenLex> blanky: find "*.txt*
[04:09] <tx22> flummoxd:  thanks for the link
[04:09] <blanky> ArrenLex: really? that easy?
[04:09] <russian-dude> can anybody give me a link to the instuction on how to install a C++ compiler? every time i try to install something it says it needs something else//
[04:09] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's find -name "*.txt"
[04:09] <blanky> -name? is that a flag or something I should supply
[04:09] <ArrenLex> blanky: provided your text files have a .txt extension.
[04:09] <blanky> beucase I don't know the name of the file
[04:09] <jmarsden> ls -R is faster and easier :-)
[04:09] <blanky> ArrenLex: yes they do
[04:09] <blanky> so ls -R | grep .txt
[04:09] <kitche> !compile|russian-dude
[04:09] <ubotu> russian-dude: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:09] <blanky> or fine -name "*.txt"
[04:09] <ArrenLex> blanky: Just go to your folder and type in:   find -name ".txt"
[04:10] <ArrenLex> And press enter
[04:10] <kitche> russian_dude install g++ for a C++ compiler
[04:10] <blanky> ArrenLex: and it'll look within every folder in that folder?
[04:10] <ArrenLex> blanky: Just go to your folder and type in:   find -name "*.txt"
[04:10] <ArrenLex> Ugh
[04:10] <ArrenLex> Yes.
[04:10] <blanky> thanks ArrenLex
[04:10] <blanky> lol
[04:10] <russian-dude> thanks kitche
[04:10] <w3ccv> tx22, visit your Barnes & Nobels, look through all the books there, find you app and go with that language.
[04:10] <russian-dude> ps, useful bot :))
[04:11] <hajiki> how can i make a launcher for transmission???
[04:11] <meisam> guys has anybody worked on IBM DB2 and installing that on ubuntu?
[04:11] <justin_> where are the included images for the desktop located in the file system
[04:11] <russian-dude> !packages
[04:11] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:11] <russian-dude> sorry
[04:12] <bimberi> hajiki: on the desktop or in the menus?
[04:12] <hajiki> both
[04:12] <bimberi> hajiki: right-click -> create launcher (Desktop)  right-click-on-Applications -> Edit Menus (menu)
[04:13] <justin_> where are the included images for the desktop located in the file system
[04:13] <slowz3r> hey
[04:13] <suran> how do I fix slow usb ports in edgy ?
[04:13] <slowz3r> Can anyone help with some wireless problem im having with drivers?
[04:13] <hajiki> bimberi: i dont the create launcher option..
[04:13] <mwhite> is there is a GUI text editor that I can run as root but be logged in a my normal account?
[04:14] <justin_> sudo gedit
[04:14] <bimberi> hajiki: ah, that's in Gnome.  Are you using another desktop environment?
[04:14] <slowz3r> Can anyone help me get some USB drivers?? any help would be great
[04:14] <hajiki> nope
[04:14] <mwhite> awesome..Thanks you Justin
[04:15] <justin_> no prb
[04:15] <dragonfyre13> hey guys.
[04:15] <dragonfyre13> is Kingsqueak still on?
[04:15] <czedlitz> i am in the process of replacing a laptop screen with a  new one, but when i plug it in it comes on with a purple haze over the whole screen, when i put the old cracked one back in, that is broke it comes on black as i should be. Any ideas, and could it be incoompatible for some reason ?
[04:15] <hajiki> i want to make a launcher for transmission-gtk
[04:16] <slowz3r> Anyone with network experience willing to help get a newbs antenna up an running ?
[04:16] <justin_> hajiki : is it in your applications menu
[04:16] <ArrenLex> !seen Kingsqueak > dragonfyre13
[04:16] <bimberi> hajiki: so you right-click on an empty desktop and there's no "Create Launcher..." in the context menu (2nd in the list here - Dapper)?
[04:16] <dragonfyre13> ArrenLex, that didn't do anything I can see.
[04:17] <dragonfyre13> ArrenLex, thanks though.
[04:17] <dragonfyre13> ArrenLex, I think
[04:17] <hajiki> justin : here /usr/local/bin/transmission-gtk
[04:17] <slowz3r> Anyone with network experience willing to help get a newbs antenna up an running ?
[04:17] <hajiki> bimberi: oh
[04:17] <dragonfyre13> I'm trying to setup my wireless network. I have it working without wep encryption, but whenever I use a wep key, it doesn't connect.
[04:18] <dragonfyre13> I have a 64 bit wep key for simplicity.
[04:18] <w3ccv> dragonfyre13, same here, good luck getting an answer for 128bit
[04:18] <dragonfyre13> I'm using rt73 drivers.
[04:18] <slowz3r> Anyone with network experience willing to help get a newbs antenna up an running ?
[04:18] <keeganx> How I was wondering what the proper command is to do an upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[04:18] <dragonfyre13> w3ccv, it seems everyone uses 128bit.
[04:19] <bimberi> ubotu: tell keeganx about upgrade | via /msg
[04:19] <w3ccv> dragonfyre13, how?
[04:19] <dragonfyre13> keeganx, apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:19] <suran> no one else has slow usb storage issues ?
[04:19] <keeganx> I tried using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after changing the source.list from dapper to edgy, but the gdm never came up
[04:19] <Frankenstein> nope
[04:19] <keeganx> and it said xserver was broken
[04:19] <dragonfyre13> w3ccv, just put in the 26 character hex code.
[04:20] <dragonfyre13> !distupgrade
[04:20] <bimberi> keeganx: no, the recommeded method is to use the update-manager
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <sysrage> anybody here use sylpheed-claws?
[04:20] <w3ccv> dragonfyre13,  doesn't work here, hmmmm.
[04:20] <dragonfyre13> !dist-upgrade
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <dragonfyre13> !dist-update
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <hajiki> thanks bimberi
[04:20] <dragonfyre13> hmmm
[04:20] <bimberi> !msg the bot
[04:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[04:20] <slowz3r> Anyone with network experience willing to help get a newbs antenna up an running ?
[04:20] <keeganx> So I change my source list to edgy then go to the update manager and perform it from there?
[04:20] <bimberi> hajiki: yw :)
[04:20] <hajiki> but how do i add it to the menu
[04:20] <dRk_sHd0w> anyone know of a good program to decrypt dvds for linux??
[04:20] <bimberi> keeganx: no, you run the update-manager from your dapper install :/
[04:20] <hajiki> ??
[04:21] <dragonfyre13> keeganx, search the wiki. There is a way that you don't change anything in your sources list.
[04:21] <bimberi> hajiki: right-click on "Applications" and select Edit Menus
[04:21] <caffiendo> I have a Linksys WUSB54Gv2 (WIFI) and instructions for install on Dapper 6.06.  Should they be the same for Edgy?
[04:21] <dragonfyre13> hajiki, just right click on the menu, and edit menus.
[04:21] <keeganx> Alright thanks guys
[04:21] <w3ccv> slowz3r, What's a newbs antenna - doesn't sound like a ubuntu problem
[04:21] <Brunellus> caffiendo, did it not work out of the box?
[04:21] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, yep, should be.
[04:21] <Brunellus> I think the rausb module is in the edgy kernel
[04:21] <blanky> !mp3
[04:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:22] <hajiki> but it doesnt appear in the add/remove
[04:22] <bimberi> keeganx: ubotu should have sent you a link to a webpage with details
[04:22] <keeganx> yeah I saw it just right now
[04:22] <dragonfyre13> Brunellus, caffiendo, the rausb that comes with edgy doesn't work.
[04:22] <slowz3r> w3ccv: well i need a driver and i cant realy, nor do i know if there is a driver available for linux
[04:22] <bimberi> hajiki: RIGHT-click on the word Applications
[04:22] <Impetus|Fatkid> hey does anyone know if this is a good distr for a first time user of linux ?
[04:22] <slowz3r> w3ccv: its for a Hawking tech HAI6SDP  usb antenna
[04:22] <caffiendo> Brunellus: I plugged it in once booted, and nothing happened.  I figured it wouldn't auto detect it, should I just reboot?  I've never added new hardware with Linux yet.
[04:22] <hajiki> yeah
[04:22] <dragonfyre13> Impetus|Fatkid, yes, it really is. I love it.
[04:23] <Impetus|Fatkid> can u run games off it
[04:23] <Impetus|Fatkid> like winex
[04:23] <dragonfyre13> !wireless
[04:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:23] <dragonfyre13> !wireless | caffiendo
[04:23] <ubotu> caffiendo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:23] <bimberi> hajiki: there should be no "Add/Remove..." but "Edit Menus" should be in the list that pops up
[04:23] <eXcentra> you know how the ubuntu installer can resize your ntfs partition for you? would you suggest defragging windows first or does it not matter?
[04:23] <hajiki> yeah alacarte menu editor pops up
[04:23] <kitche> Impetus|Fatkid: hope you know that winex doesn't exist they renamed now to cedega
[04:24] <dragonfyre13> hajiki, that's what your looking for.
[04:24] <caffiendo> dragonfyre13: thank you.  new to IRC too.
[04:24] <Impetus|Fatkid> didnt know
[04:24] <hajiki> but i dont see transmission there
[04:24] <caffiendo> !rausb
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rausb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, no problem.
[04:24] <hajiki> i want to add that app
[04:24] <hajiki> >.>
[04:24] <bimberi> eXcentra: that's a good idea, having good backups is another btw :)
[04:24] <slowz3r> Does anyone if their are any Hawking Tech Drivers for a USB antenna?
[04:24] <bimberi> hajiki: file -> new entry
[04:25] <eXcentra> bimberi, heh. :P but i'm just wondering if defragging is "optional"
[04:25] <Impetus|Fatkid> is it just one cd then
[04:25] <Impetus|Fatkid> coz thats all i can find
[04:25] <bimberi> eXcentra: sure
[04:25] <eXcentra> bimberi, haha, well, that's a straight enough answer. :)
[04:25] <bimberi> eXcentra: it will just maximise the amount of space you can use for Ubuntu
[04:25] <bimberi> eXcentra: :)
[04:25] <hajiki> oh i see thanks bimberi
[04:25] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, check out this page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28rt73%29
[04:25] <bimberi> hajiki: np :)
[04:26] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, that's what I just setup.
[04:26] <slowz3r> Does anyone if their are any Hawking Tech Drivers for a USB antenna?
[04:26] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with questions if you need help beyond that.
[04:26] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, if I'm not on later.
[04:27] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, that shows you how to setup that card. That's the chipset for rt73.
[04:27] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, quite likely, that's what your using.
[04:27] <cremis> looking for desktop images filesystem location any help
[04:27] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, does it show wlan and wmaster?
[04:28] <caffiendo> dragonfyre13: much appreciated!
[04:28] <hajiki> thanks guys
[04:28] <hajiki> later
[04:28] <Kaiyang> hi pple may i know for SAMBA... is there a default or standard on which partitions are all the files going to be saved?
[04:28] <main> hello all
[04:28] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, for your network interfaces?
[04:28] <cremis> later hajiki
[04:28] <slowz3r> Does anyone if their are any Hawking Tech Drivers for a USB antenna its an HAI6SDP
[04:28] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, do a ifconfig to find out.
[04:28] <motin_> anyone can give a good link (except for google...) to where to learn about building php from source on ubuntu?
[04:29] <caffiendo> dragonfyre13: i've only checked in device manager and it shws.  I just started the install and wanted 2 c if there was anything special  I'll check config now.
[04:29] <ivx> is anyone else having a lot of problems with 6.10 logging them off and stuff all the time
[04:30] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, I got to go now, but email me at the address I gave you if you have some questions. Plenty of caveats if you don't know what you are doing with an rt73 chipset on linux.
[04:30] <startswithz> hello, I just installed edgy, and I'm really new to linux.  Do I need to recompile the kernel to let it know that I have a centrino chip instead of a 386 or does it know that automatically?
[04:30] <dragonfyre13> startswithz, it knows.
[04:31] <caffiendo> dragonfyre13: thanks. i'll give it a try and see whathappens.  thanks for the support!
[04:31] <dragonfyre13> startswithz, actually, you should have the linux-image-generic kernel, which enables everything you'll need.
[04:31] <main> should pick the correct chipset upon install
[04:31] <slowz3r> Does anyone have a Hawking Tech device installed on their linux here????
[04:31] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, no problem. I like to help out where I can, and I'll write a howto soon on the boards.
[04:32] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, be sure to email me if you have questions. very few people have the information to get it up and running correctly.
[04:32] <main> CHecked the Hawkin Website?
[04:32] <Kaiyang> sorry anyone available to help with:  SAMBA... is there a default or standard on which partitions are all the files going to be saved?
[04:32] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, I still don't have wep working, but that should be fairly painless. The hard part (driver installation) is behind me.
[04:33] <tcli> Kaiyang: Can you elaborate on that a little?
[04:33] <dragonfyre13> caffiendo, also note, you can't use network manager to manage the connection. Connection manager (grab it from the forums) works with the rt73 chipset though.
[04:33] <dragonfyre13> by all.
[04:33] <caffiendo> dragonfyre13: peace
[04:33] <main> bye...
[04:34] <dragonfyre13> So long, and thanks for all the fish. ^_^
[04:34] <dogfood2006> W00T!  I just flashed my wrt54GL firmware with ddwrt
[04:34] <Music_Shuffle> Bye.
[04:34] <stasislove> hi, i try to hack my mouse to work properly from a how to, but xorg complains about "no evdev", no apperent evdev in synaptic to download, can anyone help?
[04:34] <dogfood2006> I'm running the ddwrt firmware, I'd officially like to say that it's great. Everyone should switch if they haven't already
[04:34] <dogfood2006> Now I just need to make sure it's going to play nice with Comcast, those bastards might have me register the router's mac address or something
[04:34] <Kaiyang> tcli>	for example files in html files for apache are stored in /var/www .... where does SAMBA files stored? I believe that is a common standard...
[04:35] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, you can clone the mac is needbe.
[04:35] <dogfood2006> Ah, great idea, maybe I should do that regardless
[04:36] <faolan> how is everyone?
[04:36] <dogfood2006> So apparently, now that my trouter has 16 MB of RAM, I could conceivably run a webserver on my ROUTER without ever having to turn any pc on! How awesome is that
[04:36] <bimberi> Kaiyang: no, there's no default location for samba shares
[04:36] <dogfood2006> I get to it by either ssh'ing to it or by <IP_ADDRESS>:81
[04:36] <baconbacon> Kaiyang: you must setup shares, there is no default share location
[04:37] <baconbacon> heh
[04:37] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, how'd you get 16mb in it
[04:37] <bimberi> baconbacon: :)
[04:37] <dogfood2006> The wrt54GL router comes w/ 16mb of ram
[04:37] <Kaiyang> i see. may know what is the purpose of /var/?
[04:38] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, ah, I only have a wrt54gs.  gotta upgrade
[04:38] <baconbacon> Kaiyang:  I always supposed it was for directories which may contain variable amounts of user content
[04:38] <startswithz> when I boot linux it seems to take longer than xp did is there something that I need ot modify to speed the process up?
[04:38] <Tonren> Hay guys, can someone help me fix unionfs in Edgy?  This is the information on the problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297644
[04:39] <dogfood2006> All you have to do is grab the binary firmware file from ddwrt.com, which in my case was called dd-wrt.v23_mini_wrt54g.bin, log into the router through your ethernet cable and flash that bad boy
[04:39] <baconbacon> Kaiyang: so if /var/ is on a separate partition and gets full, the system can still boot correctly
[04:39] <w3ccv> startswithz, all unices take a while, especially if it has to fsck file systems
[04:39] <elite> hey
[04:39] <dogfood2006> If you already have firmware running on the router, which if you bought it shrinkwrapped it does, you need to use that flie
[04:39] <startswithz> fsck?
[04:39] <elite> how do I get video decoders installed such as divx or mp3 codecs?
[04:39] <baconbacon> fsck ~= chkdsk
[04:40] <dogfood2006> If you screwed up and unbricked your router, you have to use another binary, which you can get off the ddwrt website, the wiki tells you everything, didnt take that long
[04:40] <bimberi> ubotu: tell elite about restrictedformats | via /msg
[04:40] <zipzo> Hi, i need help t find out if i can put a windows xp dual boot onto a ubuntu only system
[04:40] <Kaiyang> if i am running a linux server... how shd i partition my HardDisk? where shd i upload all my files into? so that it will not slow down the server system?
[04:41] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: Anyway, I now need to pair that guy with my actual cable modem. I might have to clone the mac address, but hopefully not
[04:41] <Kornflake46703> hey should my wireless logitech  stuff work in 610
[04:42] <dogfood2006> I don't have much experience with getting the radius authenticatoin going, but I think wpa2 aes/tkip with ssid broadcasting disabled should be enough to ward off my neighbors here in the heart of silicon valley
[04:43] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, or unplug it for a few minutes to let the cable co's arp cache timeout.
[04:43] <zipzo> does anyone know if i can put windows back onto my linux install or do i have to wipe it all and put windows on first?
[04:43] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, do you have any experience with getting 128bit WEP working with Edgy
[04:44] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: unplug the cable modem you mean? can you explain to me why that's necessary?
[04:44] <dogfood2006> what is an arp cache and why would I need to clear it out?
[04:44] <madmancanuck> can anybody tell me how I would set it so that any subdirectories of a directory keep the same group?
[04:44] <bruenig> zipzo, it is easier to do windows first. If you do it afterwards, it generally wipes out grub but there are ways to get grub back, see following factoid
[04:44] <bruenig> !grub
[04:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:44] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, between the cable modem and your router.  The ARP cache is the mac address/IP accress table.
[04:45] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, address table   **correction
[04:45] <baconbacon> Kaiyang: ideally if users can write content to e.g samba shares, the shares should be on /var/*(whatever)*, and /var on a separate partition. /tmp should have its partition also. That's the classic unix layout afaik
[04:45] <Tonren> Hay guys, can someone help me fix unionfs in Edgy?  This is the information on the problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297644
[04:45] <stasislove> hi i need evdev to configure the mouse, any clue anyone?
[04:46] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: I do not, but why are you using wep?
[04:46] <bruenig> !info xserver-xorg-input-evdev
[04:46] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-input-evdev: X.Org X server -- evdev input driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.2-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:46] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, network device only talk to either by MAC addrss, not IP. ARPing = "Who answers to the IP address <IP_ADDRESS>?"
[04:46] <zipzo> is there any way or need to defragment the hard disk in ubuntu?
[04:46] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: Your router should support wpa or wpa2 shared key authentication
[04:46] <phreakuency> hey all
[04:47] <bruenig> stasislove, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evdev, if you didn't catch that factoid
[04:47] <dogfood2006> zipzo: you don't really need to defragment if you're using ext3 as a filesystem
[04:47] <stasislove> bruenig, thanks
[04:47] <phreakuency> anyone here use beryl?
[04:47] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, it does WPA but not all laptops do.
[04:47] <dogfood2006> the days of defragmentation are left behind on ntfs and fat32 filesystem, though some of my friends do disagree with me on that
[04:47] <bruenig> phreakuency, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:47] <madmancanuck> does anybody know if there is a way that you can set a subdirectory so that any new directories or files below it maintain the same group?
[04:47] <phreakuency> I did
[04:47] <phreakuency> they didnt have an answer for me
[04:48] <Kornflake46703> hey should my wireless logitech  stuff work in 6.10
[04:48] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: I presume you just have to install the right package and get a wpa client for ubuntu, are you saying your NIC does not support WPA?
[04:48] <bruenig> madmancanuck, if I understand your question, you can chown recursively which I would think would do that.
[04:48] <stasislove> bruenig, hm got it installed, but when i change in xorg to evdev it says no evdev o.0
[04:49] <bruenig> stasislove, yeah, I don't know how to do that. I just found the package, figured you could do the rest
[04:49] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, w2k does not have WPA
[04:49] <madmancanuck> bruenig:  I've tried that but everytime somebody adds a new file, it sets the group for that file or directory to their own name
[04:49] <madmancanuck> on a CVS server this causes nothing but trouble
[04:49] <dope> has anyone got the wireless to work on an averatec laptop?
[04:50] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: you're using w2k? you can probably get a third party wpa client that does though
[04:50] <mkay_> madmancanuck, you can try to set the SGID bit on the directory
[04:50] <stasislove> bruenig, allright, ill try modprobe, have no other ideas =\
[04:50] <w3ccv> dogfood2006, besides that, my question is how to get WEP 128 to work!
[04:50] <madmancanuck> how do I do that?
[04:51] <startswithz> w3ccv, I use wifi radar
[04:51] <mkay_> chmod g+s dir
[04:51] <bruenig> !wifi
[04:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:51] <w3ccv> startswithz, I did and still have no luck, and the WifiDocs isn't any help either
[04:52] <Tonren> Can someone help me fix unionfs in Edgy?  This is the information on the problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297644
[04:52] <Kaiyang> baconbacon>	thanks ... it's helpful. so can i double confirm again that all windows related files and webpages file shd be kept within the /var/ directory?
[04:52] <Chu> I'm having an issue getting a truetype font working. Does anyone know how one might add a font in general? Perhaps I'm doing this wrong...
[04:53] <dope> my wireless adapaters are showing up but when i scan nothing shows up
[04:53] <dope> why
[04:53] <bruenig> !info msttcorefonts
[04:53] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[04:53] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: I understand. I'm looking it up in my ubuntu unleashed book right now
[04:53] <madmancanuck> mkay_:  I tried the chmod on the parent directory, but when I create a subdirectory in there, it still allows me to set my own group
[04:53] <motin_> is there a way to like... put the whole file system under version control in an efficient way ? I am installing some packages which could harm my system - really want to be able to revert back if anything comes out unclean... ideas?
[04:54] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: Have you tried using iwconfig ?
[04:54] <method|> I just bought a new seagate harddrive. how do I format it and stuff?
[04:54] <dogfood2006> It sets the network name, encryption, transmission rate, and other config settings
[04:54] <bruenig> method|, gparted
[04:54] <Chu> bruenig: No, this is some font I've found on the internet.
[04:55] <Vaske_Car> how to setup Konqueror to use flash plugin?
[04:55] <bruenig> Chu, you could probably watch that installer and see what it does. or download its source as I assume it is just some script and then see what it does
[04:55] <dogfood2006> w3ccv: man iwconfig while I look it up in my ubuntu cookbook
[04:56] <bimberi> Vaske_Car: try #kubuntu (if no-one here knows)
[04:56] <method|> bruenig: is gparted not in the repos?
[04:56] <bruenig> method|, it is, sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:56] <madmancanuck> mkay_: or rather, it doesn't Let me set my own group (my username) it sets it by default, and the next time someone tries to access the repository, it tells them they don't have access
[04:56] <startswithz> has anyone installed linux on an old mac powerpc?
[04:57] <cremis> anyone know why pngs wouldnt display on desktop cube caps
[04:57] <orphean> cremis, is the width and height of them a power of 2? Depending on your video card that might matter.
[04:57] <w30> how do I stop and restart proftp from the console?
[04:57] <AnthonyG> Hello everyone , I am in desperate need of help. I can't seem to find any information on my specific modem (Agere Systems V.92 56K) that will help me to properly configure it in Ubuntu.
[04:57] <kelly_> can someone tell me how to play mp3 in Amarok?
[04:58] <slowz3r> anyone know how i can isntall wireless drivers for windows onto linux ???
[04:58] <slowz3r> please help
[04:58] <bruenig> !quicktime | kelly_
[04:58] <ubotu> kelly_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <Kornflake46703> hey should my wireless logitech  stuff work in 6.10\\
[04:58] <bruenig> !wifi | slowz3r
[04:58] <ubotu> slowz3r: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:58] <kelly_> I have been on that site and tried everything nothing works
[04:58] <orphean> slowz3r: look for ndiswrapper docs in particular.
[04:58] <faolan> you need to dl to mp3 codecs. you can do that by getting easyubuntu
[04:59] <mumrah> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu
[04:59] <mumrah> can anyone help?
[04:59] <bruenig> kelly_, do mp3's work on other media players?
[04:59] <mkay_> madmancanuck: do you mean you want the files and directory under that directory have the same group ownership as that directory?
[04:59] <cremis> slowz3r:  automatix2 can be used to install ndiswrapper
[04:59] <bruenig> !automatix
[04:59] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:59] <kelly_> bruenig no they dont only problem i have now
[04:59] <slowz3r> cremis: im nub where can i find automatix2
[04:59] <dogfood2006> Kornflake46703: probably not, you probably need to install the drivers as modules.
[05:00] <orphean> boy there's some fud
[05:00] <ivx> slowz3r what kind of card is it
[05:00] <Tonren> Can someone help me fix unionfs in Edgy?  This is the information on the problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297644
[05:00] <mumrah> during the install, when it's "creating ext3 file system for / partition" it gets to 8% or so and then slows to a halt
[05:00] <slowz3r> ivx: its not a card its a external hawkingtech wirless usb antenna
[05:00] <dogfood2006> I would do some research on the internet to see if other people are in the same boat as you are an pursue that avenue
[05:00] <mumrah> it's a sata hdd
[05:00] <bruenig> slowz3r, if you enjoy the sanity of your system, you will not install automatix. Although you could get past it unscathed. Your call
[05:00] <dogfood2006> The likelihood that someone else in here is using hte same mouse as you are is probably pretty slim
[05:00] <kelly_> How do i fix it?
[05:00] <Narrchy> how do i give myself permission to access a file
[05:00] <kelly_> need a quick fix please
[05:00] <bruenig> kelly_, that seems to indicate you didn't install the right stuff
[05:00] <ivx> slowz3r okay i don't know about that sry
[05:01] <slowz3r> bruenig: what would you suggest
[05:01] <kelly_> bruenig i tried everything already
[05:01] <Kornflake46703> how?
[05:01] <dogfood2006> Narrchy, you'll need to change the ownership of that flie
[05:01] <dogfood2006> Narrchy: man chown
[05:01] <Narrchy> properties tab or something?
[05:01] <dogfood2006> No, do it using the command line, it'll be easier
[05:01] <bruenig> kelly_, "Open Amarok and play an mp3 file. Amarok will ask if you would like to add mp3 support and then install the libxine-extracodecs package."
[05:01] <Narrchy> what should i type
[05:02] <Ae01> Hi, everybody
[05:02] <Ae01> I want to know about Build-essential on Ubuntu
[05:02] <dogfood2006> Where is this file? What is the file?
[05:02] <cremis> slowz3r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54847
[05:02] <kelly_> bruenig no it doesn't
[05:03] <bruenig> Ae01, it installs all the things necessary for the compilation of software
[05:03] <Narrchy> it is sources.list
[05:03] <bruenig> kelly_, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:03] <dogfood2006> Theres' probably a good reason that the file is not giving you access, it's probably owned by the system
[05:03] <kelly_> bruenig just flies through the song without playing
[05:03] <Ae01> brueing , I want to compile a tuxpaint
[05:03] <bruenig> Ae01, install build-essential, sudo apt-get install build-essential, and then compile away
[05:03] <zipzo> if i need toget windows back on this ubuntu box, might it not be easier to get a new hard drive and install windows from that?
[05:04] <dogfood2006> But if you need to change the permission of a file, type sudo chown 700 [yourusername]  [filename]
[05:04] <bruenig> Ae01, or if you want to be real cool just do sudo apt-get install tuxpaint and it will download and install it for you
[05:04] <mumrah> i'm trying to install 6.10 on a SATA drive, and during the installation, it essentially stops after 8% of creating the ext3 file system
[05:04] <dogfood2006> That would give you read write and execute priveleges for that file
[05:04] <Narrchy> how doi know my username
[05:04] <cremis> anyone know why pngs wouldnt display on desktop cube caps
[05:04] <Narrchy> sorry
[05:04] <bruenig> kelly_, did the libxine-extracodecs do it?
[05:04] <Ae01> Bruenig, I'm a voluntee for develope tuxpaint to Thai language
[05:05] <slowz3r> cremis: do u have the link to the wiki to helo me out or is it on the thread
[05:05] <bruenig> Ae01, got you, well sudo apt-get install build-essential and then you should be able to compile
[05:05] <Ae01> Bruenig, I"m need to compile a software
[05:05] <dogfood2006> Narrchy: you don't know your username? how did you log into your computer
[05:05] <bigfuzzyjesus> does anyone here use gdesklets
[05:05] <kelly_> bruenig yes it did thankyou so much been driving us mad all night thankyou
[05:05] <Ae01> Ok. Thank
[05:05] <Narrchy> running from cd
[05:05] <dogfood2006> Narrchy: you used a username to log into your computer, actually, tell me which file you are trying to access and tell me what you are trying to do
[05:05] <kelly_> bruenig how do you people know all these things??
[05:05] <Narrchy> i am trying to run universe so i am editing sources.list
[05:05] <Narrchy> thats what i read i had to do
[05:06] <kitche> Ae01: instal build-essential then you can compile software
[05:06] <cremis> slowz3r: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[05:06] <dogfood2006> Narrchy: I am not familiar with universe, but if you booted off the cd, you are probably running as root
[05:06] <bruenig> kelly_, experience. When someone asks you how to install mp3 support for Amarok, you will now know as do I.
[05:06] <dogfood2006> So your username is root
[05:06] <jmx> Can anyone help me get audio song working.
[05:06] <bigfuzzyjesus> does anyone here use gdesklets / is there a better alternitive
[05:06] <jmx> audio songs**
[05:06] <zipzo> if i need toget windows back on this ubuntu box, might it not be easier to get a new hard drive and install windows from that?
[05:06] <dogfood2006> You can always type 'whoami' on the command line to find out
[05:06] <Tonren> Can someone help me fix unionfs in Edgy?  This is the information on the problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297644
[05:07] <kitche> dogfood2006: the ubuntu livecd runs as ubuntu
[05:07] <Narrchy> no I'm not
[05:07] <slowz3r> cremis: hmm lets see if i can figure this out at all ..lol
[05:07] <AnthonyG> Might anyone please point me to some type of help for configuring an Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem (V.92)?
[05:07] <dogfood2006> kitche: thanks for the correction, I didnt know that
[05:07] <dogfood2006> So Narrchy, your username is ubuntu then
[05:07] <Narrchy> alright
[05:07] <dogfood2006> I need to set up my wireless router so I gotta go
[05:07] <dogfood2006> Good luck Narrchy
[05:08] <jmx> good luck on that ha!
[05:08] <mumrah> !sata
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <bigfuzzyjesus> !gdesklets
[05:08] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[05:08] <slowz3r> cremis: i kno wthis may be asking alot but u think u might be able to kinda walk me through it if ur not real bizi
[05:08] <dogfood2006> exit
[05:08] <zipzo> i hate to even bother to put windows back on, but sadly CAD on linux is not up to speed
[05:08] <kitche> Tonren: I m not sure if the ubuntu kernel has unionfs support the kernelt hat gets isntalled that is
[05:08] <gnutun> hey all; i want to install the most recent version of a package (python-lxml) but i'm on an old version of ubuntu (breezy); is there a way i can do this with apt-get?
[05:09] <Tonren> kitche: Huh.  Well, it worked fine before.
[05:09] <zipzo> so i ask agian, if i need toget windows back on this ubuntu box, might it not be easier to get a new hard drive and install windows from that?
[05:09] <gimmulf_> Good software for companies to keep track of everything like taxes, expenses etc.
[05:09] <gimmulf_> ?
[05:09] <Jager> Hey
[05:09] <bruenig> bigfuzzyjesus, depending on what exactly you want there are some better alternatives. For instance, I only used the system gauges until I found conky which does the system gauges but at a much lower resource cost
[05:09] <Jager> Hello
[05:10] <pchero> hello
[05:10] <foo> Does knoppix or ubuntu livecd write to ntfs?
[05:10] <bigfuzzyjesus> bruenig, thats all i use too heh
[05:10] <Jager> I reset my fmb so that i could try to boot into windows (it was failing using grub) so now i cant boot into windows or linux >_> is there a way i can install grub using the livedisc???
[05:10] <zipzo> nobody knows? if i need toget windows back on this ubuntu box, might it not be easier to get a new hard drive and install windows from that?
[05:10] <bruenig> bigfuzzyjesus, conky is a bit complex though, took a while to figure it out and how to get it like I want it. There is a howto on the forums that I used, and then you just edit the config file to get whatever gauges you want and how you want them laid out.
[05:11] <bigfuzzyjesus> bruenig, ok
[05:11] <bigfuzzyjesus> bruenig, i will look into it thank you
[05:12] <allen> cierto habia una forma de desactivar el usuario root del sshd?
[05:12] <bruenig> bigfuzzyjesus, here is what mine looks like if you care to see, maybe get an idea of what to expect, http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/111906.png
[05:12] <bruenig> gimmulf_, gnucash
[05:12] <nalioth> !es
[05:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:12] <zipzo> ok if nobody knows the answer to my question, does anyone know where i can go to get the info?
[05:12] <bruenig> !info gnucash
[05:12] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2014 kB, installed size 6388 kB
[05:13] <thevenin> zipzo: you answered yourself
[05:13] <zipzo> thevenin: i did? i dont see that. i sthat clever?
[05:14] <blanky> under what menu is vino?
[05:14] <Jager> Could someone help me with my problem?
[05:14] <bruenig> zipzo, I told you earlier that if you want to install windows you can do so on the same disk. You will need to replace grub as the mbr will be overwritten. If you want to install it on another disk, I suppose that is a possibility as is wiping the whole disk installing windows then installing ubuntu
[05:15] <zipzo> no that not the question. drive and install windows from that?
[05:15] <zipzo> * Ghost_Printer<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
[05:15] <zipzo> <br
[05:15] <Jager> I reset my fmb so that i could try to boot into windows (it was failing using grub) so now i cant boot into windows or linux >_> is there a way i can install grub using the livedisc???
[05:15] <blanky> !vnc
[05:15] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[05:15] <zipzo> the question was, can i get a new hard disk and install windows on that instead of partitioning.
[05:15] <blanky> !freenx
[05:15] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:15] <thevenin> you could do it that way, their are many different routes you could take
[05:16] <Jager> zipzo: yes you can... you would just have to configure grub to look for windows on hd1,0 I think
[05:16] <Jager> im probably wrong lol
[05:16] <Jager> Anyways, could someone help me?
[05:16] <bruenig> blanky, vino is command line right? just open a terminal and run "vino"
[05:16] <zipzo> so then i would need to make sure the windows drive was the primary, and the linux was slave or would it not matter?
[05:16] <thevenin> no Jager your correct
[05:16] <blanky> bruenig: it wont work
[05:16] <blanky> bruenig: i only have vino-preferences
[05:16] <Jager> Ah okay]
[05:16] <Baile1> close enough jager, you could install different OS's on different hard drives but only one drive can be the boot drive
[05:17] <bimberi> Jager: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:17] <Jager> thank you bimberio
[05:17] <Jager> bimberi* lol
[05:17] <thevenin> zipzo: it is easier to install windows first if that is an option
[05:17] <bimberi> Jager: no problemo :)
[05:17] <Jager> right right
[05:17] <cremis> slowz3r: i really dont know how to do it, i just googled it
[05:17] <zipzo> its not an option really, since i would loose all of my ubuntu wsetup
[05:17] <Jager> Know what weird?
[05:18] <zipzo> that wasnt your question?
[05:18] <Jager> Before grub was showing my ntfs partition as hd0,0
[05:18] <Jager> but it wouldnt boot windows at that
[05:18] <thevenin> well then ya resize your partitions and install windows then edit your grub to recognize windows
[05:18] <Jager> err. be careful with resizing ntfs..
[05:18] <Jager> i think thats what messed mine up
[05:18] <zipzo> just don use ntfs
[05:18] <zipzo> i think
[05:18] <Jager> Well i had windows on before
[05:19] <zipzo> use the old fat32
[05:19] <Jager> if you plan on installing ubuntu after you already have windows
[05:19] <thevenin> Jager: windows hast to be on either NTFS or fat
[05:19] <Jager> I know
[05:19] <thevenin> ok
[05:19] <Jager> can you change it to fat once its already ntfs?
[05:19] <slowz3r> cremis: alright thanks anyway
[05:19] <thevenin> nope
[05:19] <Jager> k yea
[05:20] <Jager> Because windows xp by default installs ntfs...
[05:20] <slowz3r> Can anyone walk me through installing a windows Wirless adapter driver on linux ? please
[05:20] <thevenin> ya
[05:20] <Baile1> well the newer version of suse has a pretty good thing for resizing ntfs partitions, found it when I was playing with suse, so just find out what it uses and use that or there is always partition magic
[05:20] <thevenin> slowz3r: their are very many guides on that
[05:20] <Jager> !wireless | slowz3r
[05:20] <ubotu> slowz3r: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:20] <PapaLion> Anyone know a wireless card that will work out of the box with a dell inspiron 1100
[05:20] <mkay_> exit
[05:21] <Jager> Hmm.. is there anywa to load the linux kernal without grub?
[05:21] <thevenin> PapaLion: go with an orinoco
[05:21] <slowz3r> thevin: i know but all the guides ive seen were extremely hard to understand
[05:21] <cremis> slowz3r: noprb
[05:21] <PapaLion> thevenin: got a model name? I need to get a pcmcia card.. ive already gotten some that don't work.. and I'm so sad
[05:22] <thevenin> dont mean to be a dick but if you think the guides were hard, you prob wont be able to follow what oyur told here.
[05:22] <Jager> is it possible to connect tot eh internet while using the livedisc?
[05:22] <PapaLion> yes
[05:22] <Jager> :/
[05:22] <bruenig> !ohmy
[05:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:22] <blanky> I need help setting up a vnc server
[05:22] <thevenin> i dont like dells, sorry man i would say check dells forums for that
[05:22] <thevenin> sorry
[05:22] <Baile1> yeah, windows xp and up will recognize linux and you can use that to boot or reverse and get grub to load an OS, but somewhere something along the way has to load the OS aka pull itself up by the bootstraps to get the OS any OS going
[05:22] <thevenin> had to make a point
[05:23] <PapaLion> yeah.. dells suck :(
[05:23] <bruenig> I just like to say oh my, makes me chuckle
[05:23] <Jager> i went and set my dns servers... and disabled ipv6 while on the live disc
[05:23] <thevenin> propriatary is no good
[05:23] <Jager> cant seem to connect though
[05:23] <Jager> cant even ping my ro=uter
[05:23] <bruenig> neither is proprietary
[05:23] <klasher> LOL!
[05:23] <thevenin> lol
[05:23] <thevenin> sorry hard word
[05:24] <Jager> lol
[05:24] <klasher> Hi everyone, I just installed ubuntu
[05:24] <thevenin> one letter off
[05:24] <Jager> congrats klasher :)
[05:24] <blanky> !vncserver
[05:24] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB
[05:24] <eXcentra> klasher, cool
[05:24] <klasher> its like a dreamland, i haven't had to configure anything yet
[05:24] <Jager> oh..
[05:24] <blanky> !vnc
[05:24] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[05:24] <bruenig> klasher, ha, you just wait
[05:24] <thevenin> nice
[05:24] <Jager> :D
[05:24] <Jager> xD
[05:25] <bruenig> klasher, you will be in here very shortly crying about no mp3 and no flash or java etc.
[05:25] <jbroome> or if you're able to use the web and search engines, you can probably figure it out yourself
[05:25] <PapaLion> thevenin: where can I find this forum?
[05:25] <klasher> bruenig, lol
[05:25] <jbroome> or not
[05:25] <thevenin> one sec
[05:25] <Music_Shuffle> or if you have a brain really jbroome...
[05:26] <Baile1> read enough forums and push enough buttons and eventually you can get most things to work...haha
[05:26] <klasher> i know i'll be crying about something soon.. the question is what
[05:26] <Jager> K, im going to go try to rescue GRUB
[05:26] <thevenin> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/
[05:26] <thevenin> PapaLion: ^
[05:26] <Jager> If I succeed, ill be talking to you guys from ubuntu
[05:26] <Jager> brb
[05:27] <klasher> my next challenge is nvidia-glx
[05:27] <PapaLion> that'll be totally useless.. i'd be better off with a list of working pcmica cards
[05:27] <blanky> can someone PLEASE help me set up a vnc server on ubuntu?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> !nvidia | klasher
[05:27] <ubotu> klasher: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:27] <thevenin> lol i have never used it
[05:27] <mimithebrain> blanky: try x11vnc :)
[05:27] <thevenin> just know its their
[05:27] <klasher> ubotu, that howto already failed me
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about that howto already failed me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <blanky> mimithebrain: okay
[05:28] <Jordan_U> klasher: You are lucky, ATI drivers are a pain, Ubotu is a bot :)
[05:28] <klasher> ubotu, you are failing me now
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you are failing me now - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <klasher> :)
[05:28] <AnthonyG> No one can offer assistance in getting this Modem to work?
[05:28] <inono> Anyone know how to install FreeNX on amd64?
[05:29] <klasher> bbiab
[05:29] <inono> and what happened to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[05:29] <thevenin> http://marvin.as.arizona.edu/~jharris/linux_tips/freenx-howto.html
[05:29] <rincewind1013> is there a way to see if this controller card http://www.acard.com.tw/english/fb01-product.jsp?idno_no=96&prod_no=AEC-6280&type1_title=Adapters&type1_idno=3 is supported in ubuntu, there's a newegg review saying eventhough it mentions fedora it wasnt recognized
[05:29] <Pupeno> How do I edit a note in OpenOffice ? currently it looks like small (vertical) yellow rectangle ?
[05:29] <AnthonyG> Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem 56K V.92, Assistance needed :(
[05:29] <thevenin> inono: http://marvin.as.arizona.edu/~jharris/linux_tips/freenx-howto.html
[05:30] <dakaru> Fluxbox, for the win.
[05:30] <inono> thevenin, wtf emerge? this isnt #gentoo ..
[05:31] <thevenin> sorry i didnt read in depth
[05:31] <mimithebrain> apt-get install stuff does just as good :)
[05:31] <inono> i tried to get freenx sources from seveas's packages but i get 403 forbidden whenever i try to download the deb src..
[05:31] <thevenin> one sec
[05:31] <inono> and there's no amd64 freenx packages
[05:32] <thevenin> you will prob haft to do a wget and compile yourself
[05:32] <AnthonyG> Gentlemen , I would really like to get this modem from hell working. I yearn to enjoy the Ubuntu packaging goodness :D
[05:32] <Jordan_U> klasher: What happened when you tried the wiki.ubuntu.com instructions for nvidia-glx ?
[05:32] <inono> there's debian packages for i386, i just need to get the damn package source
[05:32] <thiebaude> hello everyone
[05:32] <Baile1> hi
[05:32] <pchero> hello~
[05:32] <thiebaude> i'm new to linux
[05:32] <pchero> i first time use IRC;;
[05:33] <slipttees> hello
[05:33] <pchero> hello
[05:33] <slipttees> program for backup dvd's?
[05:33] <slipttees> k9copy?
[05:33] <mimithebrain> AnthonyG: ack'ed, but I frankly don't know how to setup a modem. I could help you through compilling a kernel, but that wouldn't help you
[05:33] <Jordan_U> !dvd | slipttees
[05:33] <ubotu> slipttees: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:33] <thevenin> inono: it hasnt been released for AMD architecture yet
[05:33] <AnthonyG> mimithebrain: Thank you , But I'm far past that part :)
[05:34] <Jordan_U> slipttees: Sorry, wrong link :)
[05:34] <slipttees> Jordan_U: Copy perfect dvd! :D
[05:34] <inono> thevenin, like i said i just need the deb src
[05:34] <slipttees> backup dvd's man ! :) software similar clonedvd shrink ?
[05:35] <thevenin> dont know inono i would say google, or ubuntuforums
[05:36] <Jordan_U> slipttees: Actually, that is the right link, it has instructions for viewing AND backing up DVD's: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[05:36] <Baile1> how do you normally get src code for most debien packages?
[05:36] <crimsun> apt-get source foo
[05:36] <inono> apt-get source
[05:36] <inono> bloody vnc... couldnt reply fast enough :0
[05:36] <Lovloss> So is there any way to install this xgl thingy into eft? I saw some awesome vidoes of this guy flipping his screen around...
[05:36] <slipttees> Jordan_U: ok i went see,  wait...
[05:36] <Lovloss> in gnome that is
[05:36] <Jordan_U> Lovloss: Yes, what kind of card do you have?
[05:37] <Narrchy_> i'm trying to make sources.list file readable as well as writable using the command sudo chmod 700 sources.list doesnt seem to be working
[05:37] <Narrchy_> any ideas?
[05:37] <slipttees> Jordan_U: k9copy no work?
[05:37] <thevenin> Narrchy_: why is it not readable or writable?
[05:37] <Lovloss> Um.... one sec while i find out lol
[05:37] <Narrchy_> just wasn't im running ubuntu from cd not root access so
[05:37] <thevenin> arnt you the admin
[05:37] <Lovloss> Geforce FX 5200
[05:37] <blanky> how do I see which processes are running?
[05:37] <Narrchy_> says onyl readable
[05:38] <Narrchy_> i'm tryin to alter it so that i can run universe
[05:38] <blanky> hey guys I was trying to start vnc and now it made a lot of configuratoin files, how do I start over, so that there are none
[05:38] <thevenin> make sure you do sudo in front of the command to open it
[05:38] <Jordan_U> slipttees: I would expect it would work but I have never used it myself
[05:38] <thevenin> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <slipttees> it's ok man..goin google i see!
[05:38] <thevenin> be carefull with that file though
[05:39] <thevenin> Narrchy_: what version
[05:39] <Narrchy_> edgy
[05:39] <eep> i have a question about installing rar support
[05:39] <thevenin> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:39] <thevenin> follow that
[05:40] <eep> i did sudo apt-get install rar but when i do that it says
[05:40] <eep> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:40] <eep> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:40] <eep> is only available from another source
[05:40] <eep> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[05:40] <Narrchy_> i know how but first i need to get the file writable
[05:40] <thevenin> do it as root then
[05:40] <thevenin> Narrchy_:  did your try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <crimsun> !info rar
[05:41] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.1-1 (edgy), package size 239 kB, installed size 472 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:41] <thevenin> it is writable with that command from terminal
[05:41] <Jordan_U> !rar | eep
[05:41] <ubotu> eep: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:41] <Narrchy_> try it now
[05:41] <crimsun> eep: then you don't have multiverse enabled.
[05:41] <eep> what is multiverse
[05:41] <crimsun> !components >eep
[05:41] <AnthonyG> I'm reading something regarding gppp , It seems a few people have succeeded in dialing without any additional drivers. Though I would like to know if my modem is supported.
[05:41] <eep> uh
[05:42] <eep> so what do i do to enable multiverse
[05:42] <valehru> hey guys, im out here in china and I tried to install setiathome.  The problem is that some of the packages won't resolve / download due to the great firewall of china.  Anyhow, Im now being asked for sudo dpkg --configure -a in order to clear up dependencies before I can use apt again, however no matter what I do it still cannot resolve those packages.  I also tried to remove setiathome however it want's be to clear up the dependancies before I can remo
[05:42] <valehru> ve it.  Any suggestions are welcome...thx
[05:42] <crimsun> eep: read the components page
[05:42] <thevenin> eep: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:42] <Narrchy_> well that worked
[05:42] <thevenin> wait
[05:42] <naught101> !ahavi
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ahavi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <Narrchy_> but now i don't believe universe is working
[05:42] <AnthonyG> Bah , This constant rebooting can't be good for the old machine , But I suppose I'll keep at it :D
[05:43] <Narrchy_> universe is basically being able to search for any linux prog and find it, correct?
[05:43] <Narrchy_> via cache search command?
[05:43] <thevenin> Narrchy_: what makes you beleive that
[05:43] <drew> what is the default admin pw for the mysql server?
[05:43] <Narrchy_> description on Ubuntu page
[05:44] <drew> !mysql
[05:44] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[05:44] <thevenin> did you add the key
[05:44] <eep> what are repositories
[05:44] <Lovloss> geforce 5200 - how do i install the cool little cube effect in gnome, and can it handle the zoom feature too? I saw some neat vids on youtube and id like to try it out
[05:44] <tcli> Lovloss: #ubuntu-glx
[05:44] <tcli> should have more info for you
[05:44] <Narrchy_> cause i'm currently trying to search for Wine
[05:44] <ubunjusty> Hello all!
[05:44] <drew> Lovloss: its called xgl.  google it in the ubuntu forums for how to install it
[05:45] <tcli> Narrchy: I like zinfandel
[05:45] <Narrchy_> and it's not coming up under cache-search
[05:45] <tcli> er... xgl :P
[05:45] <Narrchy_> lol
[05:45] <tcli> too much wine
[05:45] <eep> so i don't get it. how do i enable multiverse
[05:45] <Narrchy_> i like liquor not wine ;)
[05:45] <blanky> hey guys how do I kill a process
[05:45] <ubunjusty> I was wondering if anyone was having a problem with Gscreensaver after the monitor goes into sleep with the nvidia x.org module.
[05:45] <jbroome> kill PID
[05:46] <thevenin> ok Narrchy_  copy and paste the repositiories from ubuntuguide.org to your sources.list then do the line under it to add key and then do sudo apt-get update and you will be fine
[05:46] <Baile1> ctrl+c
[05:46] <PMantis> Are there any "gotcha" points for using initramfs-tools in 6.10 ?
[05:46] <slipttees> hey guys...my vga adapter is VIA/S3G Uchrome AGP! but, ubuntu's using vesa driver!!
[05:46] <dabaR> !pasthebin > Narrchy_
[05:46] <blanky> jbroome: pkill -9 PID ?
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasthebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <dabaR> Narrchy_: show your sources.list
[05:46] <inono> Anyone here set up FreeNX?
[05:46] <slipttees> exists driver for my adapter?
[05:46] <ubunjusty> My problem is that the screensaver will work but once the monitor goes to sleep a GLX context can not be made with the xserver.
[05:46] <dabaR> !pastebin > Narrchy_
[05:46] <inono> I have an error when starting it, "Bad owner or permissions on /home/myuser/.ssh/config"
[05:46] <thevenin> Narrchy_: dont paste it here use pastebin
[05:46] <Narrchy_> how do i do that
[05:47] <Narrchy_> sorry kind of new
[05:47] <thevenin> Narrchy_: http://pastebin.com/
[05:47] <slipttees> ?
[05:47] <jbroome> !pastebin | Narrchy_
[05:47] <ubotu> Narrchy_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <slipttees> please..somebody!
[05:47] <slipttees> ?
[05:48] <thevenin> ?
[05:48] <dabaR> ?
[05:48] <Tonren> Is there a way to simulate unionfs with symlinks or something?
[05:48] <Narrchy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34299/
[05:48] <slipttees> hey guys...my vga adapter is VIA/S3G Uchrome AGP! but, ubuntu's using vesa driver!!
[05:48] <Narrchy> thats the link
[05:48] <slipttees> exists driver for my adapter?
[05:49] <dabaR> Narrchy_: looks like universe is enabled, you can try removing the space from the beginning of the page, and sudo aptitude update
[05:49] <eep> alright now when i try installing rar i get this
[05:49] <eep> Reading package lists... Done
[05:49] <eep> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:49] <eep> E: Couldn't find package rar
[05:49] <rangerdelta> test
[05:49] <rangerdelta> can anyone see my text
[05:49] <thevenin> Narrchy_: you still have old repositories
[05:50] <Narrchy> what are those
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> rangerdelta: no
[05:50] <rangerdelta> thanks
[05:50] <thevenin> rangerdelta: yes
[05:50] <rangerdelta> i just installed irssi
[05:50] <dabaR> eep: run gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ we will tell you what to change
[05:50] <rangerdelta> thanks for the good community on ubuntu guys, it's been the best distro i've installed and i'm pretty new to linux
[05:51] <dabaR> Admiral_Chicago: don't do that you'll get banned.
[05:51] <Narrchy> just did
[05:51] <Narrchy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34299/
[05:51] <slipttees> VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3 344 (rev 01)
[05:51] <slipttees> :(
[05:51] <slipttees> unknown device :'(
[05:51] <inono> is there a FreeNX channel
[05:51] <slipttees> but is VGA/S3G Uchrome AGP
[05:51] <dabaR> inono: did you try joining it?
[05:52] <eep> dabaR: alright http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34300/
[05:52] <rangerdelta> will anyone explain how to setup my nick with nickserv?
[05:53] <dabaR> eep: did you run sudo aptitude update?
[05:53] <eep> dabaR: did i do what
[05:53] <dabaR> eep: save, close and run sudo aptitude update in a terminal
[05:53] <slipttees> f%c#off adapter!! aarrgg...vga of shi%
[05:53] <rangerdelta> .
[05:54] <dabaR> rangerdelta: /msg nickserv help register
[05:54] <rangerdelta> thanks dabar
[05:54] <Narrchy> dabar, thev?
[05:54] <dabaR> $20
[05:54] <dabaR> Narrchy: same, I told you scroll up
[05:54] <thevenin> Narrchy_: i have also explained twice what needs to be done
[05:55] <sloof3|arr> Is the a way I can get the fan to never stop running in my laptop?
[05:55] <dabaR> thevenin: looks like universe is enabled, right?
[05:55] <sloof3|arr> This laptop doesn't seem to sense the temperature very well.
[05:55] <thevenin> ya
[05:55] <eep> alright i got rar working. thanks dabaR
[05:55] <Narrchy> sorry didn't see hard to keep up
[05:56] <Narrchy> but i just ran sudo aptitude and nothing has changed
[05:56] <dabaR> it should work then, Narrchy sudo aptitude update in aterminal
[05:56] <slipttees> because ubuntu not detect my ethernet adapter rtl8139D in motherboard Asus P5V800-MX chipset Via P4V800-CE
[05:56] <Narrchy> wait no it's working
[05:56] <Lovloss> ok, so... its called gxl, right?
[05:56] <Narrchy> i just ran a search
[05:56] <Narrchy> universe is definitley enabled
[05:56] <Narrchy> thanks!
[05:56] <fushidamn> testing
[05:56] <Lovloss> !glx
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <Lovloss> !gxl
[05:56] <thevenin> Narrchy_: your welcome
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gxl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <Lovloss> oy
[05:57] <dabaR> sloof3|arr: did you search google with your model make +fan?
[05:57] <Lovloss> !xgl
[05:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:57] <Lovloss> bingo
[05:57] <Skwid_> how can i add a language to the gtk spell checking ?
[05:57] <Narrchy> is there a better emulator other than wine
[05:57] <blanky> can someone please help me start tightvnc or any other vnc server?
[05:57] <blanky> plleaase :
[05:58] <thevenin> blanky: did you download it,
[05:58] <AsheD> I can no longer play DVDs on my computer :(  It says either I may not have access to the file, or if I try to load it manually, it tells me that /dev/dvd [or wherever it mounts it]  is not a valid DVD drive, and cannot be read
[05:58] <blanky> thevenin: I have realvnc, tightvnc, and vnc tht comes with ubuntu (dnt know which one)
[05:58] <blanky> thevenin: I just don't know how to start it
[05:59] <thevenin> you haft to set ubuntu to allow it
[05:59] <fushidamn> nick Bailey
[05:59] <Tonren> Gahh... why won't unionfs work anymore!!
[05:59] <blanky> thevenin: what?!
[05:59] <thevenin> check ubuntuguide for more details
[05:59] <blanky> thevenin: where is that
[05:59] <blanky> !tightvnc
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <thevenin> www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:00] <tcli> blanky: check /etc/init.d... should be an init script in there
[06:00] <tcli> blanky: the client should be vncviewer
[06:00] <fushidamn> testing
[06:00] <blanky> tcli: I want to start a server
[06:00] <Chu> I can't seem to figure out how to add a ttf to my system. I've tried several methods, but it doesn't seem to show up in any font lists. :-/
[06:01] <blanky> tcli: ls /etc/init.d/ | grep vnc
[06:01] <blanky> no go
[06:01] <Madpilot> Tonren, it's gone on strike?
[06:01] <tcli> blanky: Then you want to find the appropriate init script, and /etc/init.d/vncd start or whatever it is
[06:01] <blanky> tcli: but I don't know how to set it up! :'(
[06:02] <tcli> there should also be something in system->administration->services
[06:02] <blanky> tcli: okay, imagine I JUST got the packages, what do I do?
[06:02] <fushidamn> does anyone know why when you run an irc in a terminal it does not show your nick (btw, what is my nick?)
[06:02] <tcli> you should just need to give it a port and password, typically
[06:02] <Chu> Ah, nevermind, I forgot to restart the programs I was trying to use it with. My bad. :p
[06:02] <tcli> i dunno, i've never used vnc on linux, and don't really see the need for it
[06:02] <tcli> exporting x sessions is easier, faster, and more secure
[06:03] <blanky> tcli: give what the port and password, lol
[06:03] <Skwid_> how can i add a language to the gtk spell checking ?
[06:03] <blanky> fushidamn: fushidamn is your nick, heh
[06:03] <thevenin> lol @ tcli
[06:03] <fushidamn> thank you, then I have figured out how to change my nick
[06:03] <tcli> blanky: the vnc server
[06:03] <blanky> tcli: yeah, what is the command?
[06:04] <Tonren> Madpilot: Freakin' non-union filesystems
[06:04] <drew> what is the default mysql pw?
[06:04] <Madpilot> Tonren, heh
[06:04] <aSt3raL_> whats a good way to run a script at sunrise/sunset?
[06:04] <kitche> drew: well there shouldn't be one
[06:04] <aSt3raL_> is there some sort of cron modification?
[06:05] <urmom> how can i get classpath + gcj working in ppc?
[06:05] <fushidamn> have fun people, that is enough testing irc stuff for one night
[06:05] <drew> kitche: whats the default username then?
[06:05] <tcli> blanky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402 <--- there's a page on setting up vnc
[06:05] <blanky> tcli: THANKS
[06:06] <tcli> blanky: np :)
[06:06] <dabaR> aSt3raL_: install a solar power panel and connect it to your computer
[06:06] <kitche> drew: should be root
[06:06] <drew> kitche: k, thx
[06:06] <aSt3raL_> dabaR: nice idea but it would have to be a phototransistor of some sort
[06:07] <aSt3raL_> anyway im looking to use a table of times
[06:08] <DARKGuy> exit
[06:08] <DARKGuy> whoops oO
[06:09] <dabaR> Skwid_: in what program?
[06:09] <Skwid_> dabaR: any program using a gtk textbox
[06:09] <dabaR> like...
[06:09] <ubunjusty> Skwid_: Maybe you should look at something like cron?
[06:10] <Skwid_> ubuntulog: huh ???
[06:10] <Skwid_> ubunjusty: it does it by itself
[06:10] <Skwid_> i just want to add another language
[06:10] <dabaR> Skwid_: aptitude search spell
[06:10] <blanky> hey guys anyone know why I'm getting this error? http://paste.jorgepena.be/47
[06:11] <ubunjusty> Skwid_:  cron is a daemon that will run a program at a time you give it.
[06:11] <Skwid_> ubunjusty: i know, but i don't see the relevance here
[06:11] <ubunjusty> Skwid_: Sorry answering someone else's question.
[06:12] <tcli> blanky: looks like you don't have a display variable set... try running: export DISPLAY=":0.0" first
[06:12] <blanky> tcli: I type taht?
[06:12] <blanky> export Display=":0.0"
[06:12] <tcli> blanky: yeah
[06:12] <malt> Hello, I'm going by the guide on unreal site for IRCD and when i go to run ./Config i get permission denied, wonder why? i have full access
[06:12] <dabaR> blanky: you don't think the command is relevant?
[06:12] <blanky> dabaR: huh?
[06:13] <tcli> blanky: except DISPLAY needs to be in all caps
[06:13] <blanky> tcli: when I type that, nothing happens
[06:13] <blanky> oh, hehe
[06:13] <dabaR> blanky: what command gave you the error?
[06:13] <tcli> blanky: It just sets a variable... shouldn't return anything
[06:13] <blanky> tcli: export DISPLAY=":0.0" gave no results/output
[06:13] <tcli> blanky: it'll just let everything in that terminal session know which display to use
[06:13] <tcli> blanky: try running whatever it was again
[06:13] <blanky> dabaR: when I typed gaim, but it also happened (first, as fasr as I know) when I typed tightvncserver
[06:14] <Lovloss> xgl is very confusing
[06:14] <blanky> but it's not just in that terminal session
[06:14] <malt> nvm
[06:14] <blanky> it happens everywhere
[06:14] <badmacktuck> hey all
[06:14] <Lovloss> i keep getting directed to this suse thing
[06:14] <blanky> when I click on the gaim icon, it loads and loads but then closes
[06:14] <ubunjusty> malt: Maybe you haven't given the ./config file execute permissions or it could have extracted under s different user name.  You can alway ls -l in order to see the owner/permissions
[06:14] <blanky> I typed what you said, bout the export, and i typed gaim and the same thing ahppens
[06:14] <malt> I used it with sudo and it worked good
[06:14] <Lovloss> isnt there just some sort of installation program?
[06:14] <blanky> I'm scared of restarting my pc now
[06:14] <blanky> nothing is launching!
[06:14] <blanky> :'(
[06:15] <blanky> I can't open any new windows/programs
[06:15] <blanky> I'm so scared of restarting lol
[06:15] <dabaR> blanky: log out back in...
[06:15] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Are you trying to install Beryl or something like it on Ubuntu 6.10?
[06:15] <blanky> dabaR: you mean, log out, log back in??
[06:15] <blanky> dabaR: taht's not waht I meant by afraid of restarting
[06:15] <Music_Shuffle> ctrl-alt-bkspce
[06:15] <dabaR> blanky: or stop tightvnc server
[06:15] <edwardsNdallas> anyone ever set up RAID1 on ubuntu LAMP?
[06:15] <blanky> dabaR: what I meant was, I'm scared of turning off my computer
[06:15] <CientificoLoco> hello
[06:15] <blanky> dabaR: how?
[06:15] <Lovloss> I want my edgy eft's gnome interface to be capable of those graphical effects, yes
[06:16] <CientificoLoco> how do I install the last version of amns?
[06:16] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Are you using an ATI or nVidia card?
[06:16] <Music_Shuffle> blanky, log out by hitting ctrl-alt-backspace, closes X sessions and takes you back to the login prompt.
[06:16] <tcli> edwardsNdallas: Using md?
[06:16] <dabaR> blanky: show output of ps aux on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <Lovloss> nvidia... geforce 5200
[06:16] <blanky> okay dabaR
[06:16] <Lovloss> im confused, because i seem to already have xserver-xorg setup. i downloaded the nvidia drivers
[06:17] <edwardsNdallas> md? guess not :(
[06:17] <badmacktuck> so, im trying to install 6.10 on my laptop and its not playing nicely, tried everything i can think of but it seems like the screen just shuts off everything i try
[06:17] <blanky> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34303/
[06:17] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: The 9xxx series driver has native support to use the aiglx support built into Edgy's xorg server.  I would suggest using it to avoid having to download xgl.
[06:17] <badmacktuck> ati x700 on a acer travelmate
[06:17] <rusito> hola donde puedo conseguir VMWARE con serie?
[06:17] <jbroome> vmware serial?
[06:18] <Lovloss> ... using it, okay. So whats the next step then?
[06:18] <blanky> rusito: eso es illegal jaja
[06:18] <blanky> !es | rusito
[06:18] <ubotu> rusito: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:18] <rusito> ok, thanks
[06:18] <jbroome> you see everyone in here typing english, you know english and you ask the question in spanish?  wtf
[06:19] <ubunjusty> Lovloss:  So you are using the 9xxx series?  Cool.  All you have to do then is install Beryl or Compiz or something like that and then run it.  You may have to edit a couple of things in order to make it start by default and for it to remember you settings on exit.  But you can head over to the Beryl-project web site to get all the information.
[06:19] <Admiral_Chicago> jbroome: just because they say thanks in english doesn't mean they "know it'
[06:19] <blanky> dabaR: ?
[06:19] <Lovloss> er, okay, how do i know if its a 9xxx series?
[06:20] <aztracker1> learn C in two minutes... it works too... http://tinyurl.com/ygjept
[06:20] <tcli> aztracker1: lol
[06:20] <aztracker1> saw it on my bbs..
[06:20] <badmacktuck> anyone going to be able to help me?
[06:20] <aztracker1> tcli, thought it was funny.
[06:21] <blanky> dabaR: I think I know what's wrong now but would you be nice enough to follow along
[06:21] <blanky> dabaR: ? please ?
[06:21] <blanky> dabaR: I can't fix this alone
[06:21] <dabaR> blanky: kill -9 4228 5592 5096 5428 3656
[06:21] <blanky> sudo?
[06:21] <blanky> dabaR: it says no such process for each number
[06:21] <dabaR> blanky: but...we could restart your screen, but when you restart it will be good
[06:21] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Oh...  Um  you can run a program that comes with the nVidia driver stack called 'nvidia-settings'
[06:21] <blanky> dabaR: I killed the processes
[06:22] <rockinchado> anyone know why my alt+tab stops working when i use xmodmap to switch layouts....i'm using xfce
[06:22] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: You should see on the first page a line that tells you what version it is.
[06:22] <blanky> dabaR: you're sure it will be good? I mean, if I can't open any new windows/programs right now, I'm afraid that when i try to log back in, I won't even be able to start up kde
[06:22] <Lovloss> Any chance that can be done from the command line?
[06:22] <dabaR> blanky: how about sudo kill -9 6192?
[06:22] <blanky> dabaR: I killed them and it's still happening
[06:22] <blanky> dabaR: I killed them
[06:22] <Lovloss> ah
[06:22] <Lovloss> no . its version 8776
[06:23] <slavik> any guides on getting the virtual consoles under edgy?
[06:23] <dabaR> blanky: you murderer
[06:23] <aztracker1> I want to find an nvidia >= 6600 with a heat pipe (gigabyte made a few), but can't seem to find one, my 6800 is too noisy.
[06:23] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: It's a X program so you have to be in an xsession to see it.
[06:23] <aztracker1> slavik, huh?
[06:23] <blanky> lol
[06:23] <blanky> dabaR: I typed that
[06:23] <slavik> aztracker1: have you looked at after market coolers like the silecer ones?
[06:23] <blanky> dabaR: and the processes wont die
[06:23] <dabaR> blanky: with sudo?
[06:23] <blanky> dabaR: yeah
[06:23] <slavik> aztracker1: the ttys ... the ones you can switch to using Ctrl+Alt+F1 (through F6)
[06:23] <aztracker1> slavik, yeah, it's for a SFF (shuttle) case, so most of the aftermarket ones are too big, or too noisy.
[06:24] <Lovloss> ubunjusty so i have to get something else?
[06:24] <slavik> aztracker1: ahh ... have you tried newegg?
[06:24] <aztracker1> slavik, gotcha..
[06:24] <blanky> dabaR: I think I know what's wrong, it's because with vnc it creates profiles or whatever, and I'm running it right now or something, and well, look http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=152556
[06:24] <badmacktuck> =(
[06:24] <blanky> dabaR:
[06:24] <aztracker1> slavik, yeah.. my best bet is finding a used gigabyte 6800 agp... which sucks, I've lost about 3 ebay bids so far..
[06:25] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: I'm sorry.  I missed your last comment.  What was that?
[06:25] <blanky> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34305/
[06:25] <Lovloss> What do i need to do if i am not 9xxx version
[06:25] <aztracker1> got back into a few games again, so I put a 6800 I had laying around in, and it's noisy.. :(
[06:26] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Oh well you would need to get that version of the driver.
[06:26] <badmacktuck> i get an error message about not being able to allocate resources right after i choose "start and install" from the 6.10 boot menu on the live cd
[06:26] <blanky> dabaR: are you there don't leave me please! :'(
[06:26] <slavik> heh
[06:26] <badmacktuck> but it scrolls too fast to read
[06:26] <blanky> dabaR: could it be becasue I removed all of the vnc configuration files in .vnc?
[06:26] <badmacktuck> anyone able to explain that to me?
[06:26] <ubunjusty> Lovloss:  I would suggest using a repo to get the driver instead of trying to build it yourself.
[06:26] <sloof3|arr> dabaR: Nice.  I google again and the i8k utilities are available.  Gkrellm is setup now.
[06:26] <slavik> badmacktuck: how much RAM do you have?
[06:26] <badmacktuck> 512
[06:26] <badmacktuck> ddr
[06:26] <badmacktuck> 2
[06:26] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Um.  Do you have a 32-bit or 64-bit machine?
[06:27] <slavik> hmm ...
[06:27] <aztracker1> badmacktuck, I have to install from the "alternate" cd install.. non-gui installer, but works fine.
[06:27] <dabaR> blanky: install irssi, and learn some /commands, and restart and come back in a console( i.e. alt-ctrl-f1 )if it really does not start
[06:27] <Lovloss> ubunjusty: i dont know... u.u
[06:27] <blanky> dabaR: I'm really scared of doing that :'(
[06:27] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: You'll also have to forgive me I'm using a remote machine so I'll try to do most of this from memory.
[06:27] <badmacktuck> i may have to give that a try, its a non standard video card in a laptop
[06:27] <dabaR> blanky: that I can't help with
[06:27] <PMantis> I'm having a problem creating a new initrd with mkinitramfs on Ubuntu 6.10
[06:27] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Ok you can check that by using this command in a terminal.
[06:28] <blanky> dabaR: wait, I just started konqueror, so I think it's just gtk programs
[06:28] <Lovloss> sorry i know so little u.u
[06:28] <blanky> nevermind
[06:28] <blanky> konsole doesn't work
[06:28] <Skwid_> does anyone know of a good wallpaper utility that would cycle through folders, flickr photos, etc, with specific filters such as size, orientation etc
[06:28] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: First run a terminal.  Push Alt+F2  then type 'gnome-terminal'
[06:28] <Lovloss> i have a terminal open already =)
[06:28] <max_> does anyone else have the problem of FF2 closing randomly and very often
[06:29] <blanky> dabaR: will be right back
[06:29] <bimberi> !fffc | max_
[06:29] <ubotu> max_: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[06:29] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Once your terminal pops up type the following command:  'uname -a'
[06:29] <dabaR> Skwid_: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=wallpaper+change+ubuntu+periodically&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[06:29] <glick> hi
[06:29] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Also you should note that uname is a common tool found in most Unix-like OSes.
[06:29] <glick> excuse me, how come whenever i play an avi the sound lags the picture?
[06:29] <Lovloss> 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux is what i got
[06:30] <Skwid_> dabaR: thanks, i tried the webilder one, but it doesnt do folders
[06:30] <w3ccv> the speed of sound is slower than the speed of light  :-)
[06:30] <glick> or rather the sound is out of sinc with the picture
[06:30] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: notice the i686 section.  That means you have a 32-bit system.  64-bit is noted by x86_64
[06:30] <Lovloss> ok
[06:30] <Lovloss> so what should i do next
[06:31] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Um...  Let's see.  First you should make sure that your system is up-to-date...  Let me see.
[06:32] <glick> anyone else hav that problem?
[06:32] <Lovloss> well i just installed ubuntu a week ago
[06:32] <badmacktuck> glick what player are you using
[06:33] <glick> badmacktuck, i tried mplayer and the standard "Movie Player"
[06:33] <glick> totem
[06:33] <badmacktuck> try vlc
[06:33] <badmacktuck> i have the best luck with it
[06:33] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Okay but it never hurts to check.  Usually an icon will appear on your desktop to indicate to you that your software is not up-to-date but if you don't see that icon I guess it will be safe to proceed.
[06:34] <Lovloss> ah that. yes, im up to date
[06:34] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Wait I think I know a good site that you can use to get Beryl started on your system.
[06:34] <max_> bimberi: how do i fix it?
[06:35] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Hey I did run into a slight problem when I installed Beryl.  Are you using a wireless card?
[06:35] <bimberi> max_: the factoid tells you.  Edit that file and add the line to it
[06:35] <slavik> what's a nice latex gui?
[06:35] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: It's really a semantics problem with Ubuntu but it could keep you from getting on the net via wireless.
[06:35] <Lovloss> ubunjusty no, im  comcastic
[06:36] <stiffme1983> hello everyone
[06:36] <slavik> Lovloss: I feel for you ...
[06:36] <uLynx> hi, i've Ubuntu 6.10, with gnome, how can i install superkaramba?
[06:36] <max_> bimberi: it dosnt say how to fix it......its just people sayign they have problems
[06:36] <bimberi> !hi | stiffme1983
[06:36] <ubotu> stiffme1983: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:36] <bimberi> max_: not the webpage, the factoid from ubotu
[06:37] <bimberi> ubotu: tell max_ about fffc | via /msg
[06:37] <slavik> !botsnack
[06:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:37] <stiffme1983> is there anyone compile the kernel with ck patch?
[06:37] <max_> i just add that in the file anywhere?
[06:37] <glick> nah vlc is out of sync too
[06:37] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Cool.  Some third party drivers for wireless cards are install via a package named 'X' and since you'll also be upgrading a package call 'X' (but is not related to the first one) it will overwrite the driver you are using for a wireless card even though the driver has nothing to do with wireless cards.
[06:37] <badmacktuck> sorry glick im out of ideas then
[06:37] <bimberi> max_: yep
[06:37] <PMantis> Installing a kernel... can someone please help?
[06:37] <PMantis> Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version
[06:37] <PMantis> 2.6.17-10-generic on running kernel 2.6.17-10-generic in /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs
[06:38] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851  This is the web address you need.  I thought I had it somewhere in my bookmarks.
[06:38] <poolkey172> strace -p caused the whole of X to hang anyone else experienced this ?
[06:38] <Lovloss> So hold on, do i need to DL xgl or do i already have it? My computer boots up nvidia when i turn it on
[06:38] <stiffme1983> it seems the kernel ck patch can't apply to kernel source smoothlt
[06:39] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: The post is a little dated since the drivers are no longer beta.  But other than that this should fix you.
[06:39] <Illiterite> poolkey172, That is funky... no idea on that one
[06:39] <Lovloss> ubunjusty : and this will let me have all those graphical effects, in gnome?
[06:40] <poolkey172> illiterate : Yeh its weird happens only when I strace a running x app like say firefox etc
[06:40] <Illiterite> hm, lemme give it a shot
[06:40] <poolkey172> illiterate : Cool
[06:40] <Illiterite> nope, works fine for me
[06:40] <poolkey172> Grrrr damn
[06:40] <thrillin`> i need help to partition my mac plz
[06:40] <Illiterite> lol
[06:41] <thrillin`> help help
[06:41] <Illiterite> try stracing the strace?
[06:41] <Lovloss> ok cya guys
[06:41] <Illiterite> lolol
[06:41] <poolkey172> I'm running edgy / fluxbox with one kicker panel
[06:41] <Illiterite> you're doing it from a terminal, right?
[06:41] <ubunjusty> Lovloss: Yeah.  You see Beryl is a OpenGL enabled window manager.  This allows Beryl to present your windows (applications) as textures on 3D shapes.  There is also a lot of plugins to make other nifty effects.  However, all of this is still very new (not a year old) so it isn't perfect.
[06:41] <poolkey172> illiterate yeh from an eterm
[06:41] <thrillin`> any mac users here?
[06:41] <Illiterite> that's funky... never heard of strace crashing anything before
[06:41] <thrillin`> usin ubuntu
[06:42] <poolkey172> Illiterate maybe I should try to generate some logs
[06:42] <ubunjusty> thrillin`: Well I have a set of Macs but none of them are using Ubuntu.
[06:42] <thrillin`> if u help i'll give u my lunch $$
[06:43] <Illiterite> poolkey172: you can try: strace strace -p (pid) &>~/strace.txt
[06:43] <poolkey172> lol
[06:43] <uLynx> hi, i've Ubuntu 6.10, with gnome, how can i install superkaramba?
[06:43] <Illiterite> poolkey172: I know, right?
[06:43] <poolkey172> illiterate now ?
[06:43] <thrillin`> damn like no mac users 2 help huh
[06:43] <thrillin`> this sux
[06:43] <Illiterite> Well, it'll give you an idea (hopefully) of what's going on with the strace
[06:43] <poolkey172> I would hav to reboot !
[06:43] <Illiterite> heheh
[06:43] <Illiterite> hm
[06:43] <Illiterite> lemme ask google rq
[06:43] <poolkey172> ok I'll strace this Konversatin window
[06:44] <ubunjusty> uLynx: Just go into synaptic and install superkaramba.
[06:44] <thrillin`> well anyone know how to partition a mac hdd?
[06:44] <poolkey172> see you all after the crash
[06:44] <Illiterite> poolkey172: paste it to the pastebox thingy and i'll take a look when you get back
[06:44] <uLynx> ubunjusty, where is synaptic? under which menu
[06:45] <Illiterite> uLynx: system->administration
[06:45] <uLynx> ok thanks got it
[06:45] <ubunjusty> uLynx: Oh sorry.  It is "System | Administration | Synaptic Package Manager"
[06:45] <poolkey172> strace -p 10718 2>&1 & > koncersation.log
[06:45] <poolkey172> Is that ok ?
[06:45] <ubunjusty> uLynx: If I remember correctly.
[06:45] <poolkey172> I'll redirect stderr as well
[06:46] <Illiterite> poolkey172: ditch the spaces
[06:46] <poolkey172> here goes
[06:46] <uLynx> ubunjusty, u remeber correctly
[06:46] <ubunjusty> uLynx: You may need to install some KDE and QT packages in order for it to render everything nicely.
[06:46] <Illiterite> poolkey172: and &> redirects everything
[06:46] <mrmoke> dual boot a Mac , thrillin?
[06:46] <thrillin`> yea
[06:46] <thrillin`> i want to have ubuntu as 2nd OS
[06:46] <poolkey172> Hmmmm
[06:46] <ubunjusty> uLynx: Otherwise, it might not look as nice as you hope.
[06:46] <uLynx> ubunjusty, is there any superkaramba made for just gnome?
[06:46] <poolkey172> I am still here
[06:46] <Illiterite> lol
[06:46] <Illiterite> poolkey172: what does the log look like?
[06:46] <mrmoke> thrillin: boot off your OSX cd..
[06:46] <poolkey172> I'll try firefox
[06:47] <ubunjusty> uLynx: Well gnome has a thing call gdesklets but it's applets suck butt.
[06:47] <poolkey172> LOTS of gettimeofday
[06:47] <thrillin`> lolz i eh have my OSX cd
[06:47] <uLynx> ubunjusty, ahh
[06:47] <noodles12> xwinwarp i have run on startup and it only loads on one desktop. how do i make it load on all 4?
[06:47] <mrmoke> you can use disk utility
[06:47] <thrillin`> i tried
[06:47] <thrillin`> how i split it?
[06:48] <uLynx> ubunjusty, how do i made desktop icons of calendar, weather, cpu, memory, hard drive etc..etc...
[06:49] <ubunjusty> uLynx: Well I think superkaramba is your best bet.  There is also some little monitor programs like GkrellM
[06:49] <mrmoke> thrillin: try this http://blogs.sun.com/richb/entry/powerbook_dual_boot:_macosx_tiger
[06:49] <slowz3r> can i get some help connectin to a wireless network please?
[06:49] <thrillin`> thx
[06:49] <uLynx> ubunjusty, for gnome?
[06:49] <ubunjusty> uLynx: There is so many programs you may have to play around with some of them and pick which one you like the best.
[06:50] <ubunjusty> uLynx: For weather I just use the weather applet provided with Gnome.
[06:50] <slowz3r> Can i get some wirless network help please?
[06:50] <uLynx> ubunjusty, ic
[06:50] <ubunjusty> uLynx: You can add it to a panel but right mouse clicking on an empty spot on your panel and then click "Add To Panel..."
[06:51] <uLynx> ubunjusty, how about on desktop
[06:51] <auk> how can i check the integrity of a downloaded iso? (are there checksums provided to compare against etc?)
[06:52] <Illiterite> lol
[06:52] <Illiterite> mirc exploit?
[06:52] <Illiterite> no ops in here?
[06:52] <bimberi> !ops
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[06:52] <slavik> crackbaby sending something?
[06:52] <slowz3r> hmm
[06:52] <aSt3raL_> anyone know of a sunrise/sunset calculator?
[06:53] <LadyNikon> CrackBaby: burn in ...
[06:53] <Illiterite> * Received a malformed DCC request from CrackBaby.
[06:53] <Illiterite> * Contents of packet: DCC SEND GayNiggerAssociationOfAmerica 0 0 0 0
[06:53] <Illiterite> pardon the profanity
[06:53] <elkbuntu> Illiterite,dont repeat exploits, ever
[06:53] <caffiendo> how do i uninstall macromedia flash?
[06:53] <Illiterite> elkbuntu: noted
[06:53] <slowz3r> Can anyone recommend a program that i  can use to connect to wifi networks ??
[06:53] <LadyNikon> I really miss being able to msg lilo :(
[06:54] <poolkey172> back after the crash
[06:54] <auk> damn it, and i wanted my question answered
[06:54] <Illiterite> auk: what's your question?
[06:54] <slowz3r> who can recomend a good program to connect to wifi
[06:55] <thrillin`> mrmoke: u a girl?
[06:55] <thrillin`> oh bad question
[06:55] <thrillin`> "mr"
[06:55] <ubunjusty> slowz3r: Are you having a problem with your wifi?
[06:55] <auk> how can i check the integrity of a downloaded iso? (are there checksums provided to compare against etc?)
[06:55] <thrillin`> lolz
[06:55] <poolkey172> illiterate the strace didnt work
[06:55] <vader> auk, I use k3b for that one
[06:55] <poolkey172> logs are null
[06:55] <bimberi> auk: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[06:56] <thrillin`> nah looks like that link works
[06:56] <LadyNikon> ahahaha
[06:56] <thrillin`> i was gonna say if u a girl i would blow u a kiss
[06:56] <slowz3r> ubunjusty, well installed my Hawking USB antenna and i wanna see if its actualy working...it can see a hole bunch of connections just cant connect...so what i did was open  a connection with my own router and it sees it i jsut cant figure out how to connect
[06:56] <slowz3r> ubunjusty,
[06:57] <slowz3r> ubunjusty, right now im using wifi radar
[06:57] <ball> hello MistaED
[06:57] <ball> hello Jas-Nix
[06:57] <ball> Is there an ubuntu for UltraSPARC machines?
[06:57] <ball> hello marsu
[06:58] <holycow> ball, no
[06:58] <ubunjusty> slowz3r: I would suggest using NetworkManager. It's pretty useful if you don't want to learn how to do it via the CLI.
[06:58] <holycow> thats #debian
[06:58] <ball> holycow: okay, thanks anyway.
[06:58] <holycow> no worries
[06:58] <nalioth> Illiterite: may i see you in #ubuntu-ops please?
[06:58] <jbroome> Ooooh, you're in trouble
[06:58] <slowz3r> ubunjusty, im a linux newb where can i DL that from
[06:59] <poolkey172> holycow: cant u compile a kernel for a sparc than load ubuntu onto it ?
[06:59] <holycow> no, you haveto recompile all packages for it
[06:59] <bimberi> lol
[06:59] <holycow> ubuntu is basically just frozen debian unstable every 6 months
[06:59] <holycow> you may as well just use debian instead
[06:59] <poolkey172> holycow: doh I forgot the arch
[06:59] <ubunjusty> slowz3r: Um.  Try Synaptic.  It's under "System | Administration | Synaptic Package Manager"  That is if you are using Ubuntu,
[06:59] <highneko> Would I need special cds to use with lightscribe? Could the cd have writing by the company on it?
[07:00] <slowz3r> ya i am using ubuntu
[07:00] <slowz3r> ubunjusty, well it says its a KDE frontend an im using GNome
[07:00] <thrillin`> mrmoke: thx again....lemmie make some backups first...hope its a go
[07:00] <jbroome> highneko: yes, you need special cds to use lightscribe
[07:01] <slowz3r> ubunjusty, nvm i found the gnome front
[07:01] <highneko> How much to these lightscribe cds cost?
[07:01] <jbroome> beats me
[07:01] <jbroome> froogle perhaps
[07:01] <ubunjusty> slowz3r: Ok.  If your using Gnome then I would suggest Network Manager.  It allows support to WPA and WEP enabled networks.  Or if you really wanted to you could learn how to do it via the command line.
[07:02] <slowz3r> ubunjusty, ok i sintalled it with synaptic..but how do i open it up or were is it
[07:02] <justin_> lol wats going on here m8s
[07:02] <dragonfyre13> hey guys.
[07:02] <H3g3m0n> Theres is Ubuntu for sparc
[07:03] <CientificoLoco> how do I install amsn?
[07:03] <H3g3m0n> CientificoLoco: System>Admin>Synaptic
[07:04] <Crescendo_> What kind of macro/hotkey apps are available for Ubuntu/Linux in general?
[07:04] <justin_> windows
[07:04] <simus> ok, ive read the forums over and over, tried all i can find, can someone please help me get my raid working on ubuntu?
[07:04] <justin_> is a good one
[07:04] <justin_> os2 is another good one
[07:04] <holycow> ah nm
[07:04] <ubunjusty> slowz3r: Um...  You should log out and log back into Gnome and it should appear.
[07:04] <holycow> there is indeed a sparc download
[07:04] <holycow> weird but cool
[07:04] <holycow> http://ubuntu.uz/releases/edgy/
[07:05] <dragonfyre13> anyone feel like helping get either suspend working on the lappy, or getting wep keys working with my wireless?
[07:05] <justin_> dragonfyre13: you could just run a real operating system on your laptop
[07:05] <justin_> instead of a communist hacker operating system
[07:05] <Frankenstein> !op
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[07:05] <whta> hello all
[07:05] <ubunjusty> slowz3r: It's a little bar meter icon that should appear in the notification area.
[07:05] <dragonfyre13> justin_: quit trolling, and g back to your hole.
[07:05] <Madpilot> Frankenstein, ??
[07:06] <Frankenstein> TROLL!
[07:06] <justin_> dragonfyre13: I'm not trolling, dude.
[07:06] <justin_> just saying
[07:06] <Frankenstein> and annoying troll at that
[07:06] <nalioth> frenetik: yes?
[07:06] <whta> let's just suppose for a second that I just downloaded the linux build of songbird and have extracted it.. where would be the most logical place to put the folder that contains the program?
[07:06] <slowz3r> ubunjusty, so log out an log back in?
[07:06] <dragonfyre13> Frankenstein: yep, pretty much.
[07:06] <H3g3m0n> CientificoLoco: amsn is in the universe repository, enable it in settings
[07:06] <dragonfyre13> thanks elkubuntu
[07:06] <Frankenstein> thanks
[07:06] <ubunjusty> slowz3r: Yeah.  It should appear.  Let me know if it doesn't
[07:06] <slowz3r> k
[07:06] <slowz3r> brb
[07:07] <CientificoLoco> H3g3m0n, but I wanna get the last version..
[07:07] <holycow> whta, you don't need to 'install' it if i remember what this is ... you should be able to just double click on the executable binary and it will run ... its that thing built on mozilla right?
[07:07] <dragonfyre13> so, anyone feel like helping?
[07:07] <holycow> if its packaged in a deb it will just ask permission to install of course
[07:07] <Frankenstein> dragonfyre13, i didnt catch your problem
[07:07] <LadyNikon> gn
[07:07] <dragonfyre13> Frankenstein: helping get either suspend working on the lappy, or getting wep keys working with my wireless?
[07:07] <whta> holycow: yes, it's not running it that the problem is. i just don't know where I SHOULD logically put the folder since it's sitting on my desktop
[07:08] <holycow> whta, i'm not sure what you questio nmeans
[07:08] <holycow> i'm telling you that it doesn't matter
[07:08] <holycow> makes sense right?
[07:08] <whta> yes i know
[07:08] <whta> i mean
[07:08] <Frankenstein> well dragonfyre13 wireless and linux SUCK... i could never get it to work and suspend should be in...  menu / system / admin / power managment
[07:08] <whta> whatever, i'll just throw it into my home folder
[07:09] <Frankenstein> wait..
[07:09] <Madpilot> !wireless | dragonfyre13
[07:09] <ubotu> dragonfyre13: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:09] <Frankenstein> well dragonfyre13 wireless and linux SUCK... i could never get it to work and suspend should be in...  menu / system / user prefs / power managment
[07:09] <dragonfyre13> Frankenstein: I've got it working without wep, but suspend just doesn't work period.
[07:09] <holycow> dragonfyre13, wep works by default ... you just open the network manager, select wireless cad if its detected and type in wep key
[07:09] <holycow> wpa is a bit of another matter, some tell me there is a gui now for wpa
[07:09] <H3g3m0n> CientificoLoco: 0.96 was just released so it won't be in the repos, you can try the amsn site for their packaged one but 0.96 isn't much diffrent 0.95
[07:10] <ubunjusty> holycow: NetworkManager in Ubuntu 6.10 has WPA support in the GUI.
[07:10] <dragonfyre13> holycow: nope, actually, that's how it should work, but with the rt73 chipset it's another matter.
[07:10] <holycow> dragonfyre13, for the suspend stuff you will need to google your specific laptop model, ubuntu and the instructions on doing that if it works at all
[07:11] <dragonfyre13> holycow: thanks for the suspend stuff. I know that network manager and connection manager support wpa without wpasupplicant package though. Pretty easy from the other cards I've done.
[07:11] <ubunjusty> dragonfyre13:   May I suggest an atheros based card.  They work great in suspend.
[07:11] <holycow> dragonfyre13, then the proper answer is one most poeple don't want to hear actually ... don't spend your life configuring and fighting with proprietary non working stuff, go out and buy a supported pcmcia card and be done with it :)
[07:11] <dragonfyre13> ubunjusty: thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
[07:11] <lia> hi
[07:11] <dragonfyre13> holycow: yeah, I know. Dang it.
[07:11] <dragonfyre13> holycow: thanks though.
[07:11] <holycow> dragonfyre13, yeah no prob, its a non answer, just hoping to help you get to the answers quicker
[07:12] <dragonfyre13> holycow: my goal is to get this lappy up and working fully though.  Be back later.
[07:14] <holycow> as much as i like supporting underdogs like nvidia, for laptops all intel chipsets seem to be the way to go
[07:14] <dragonfyre13> thanks holycow, ubunjusty and Frankenstein
[07:14] <auk> bimberi, thanks
[07:14] <holycow> but thats not an option once you have a laptop already >_<
[07:14] <holycow> 'welcome
[07:14] <dragonfyre13> holycow: I know. I love the lappy though, and for 600 bucks, I couldn't go wrong.
[07:15] <dragonfyre13> holycow: 200 after the windows refund.
[07:15] <holycow> acer 3620?
[07:15] <dragonfyre13> holycow: Averatec 2370
[07:16] <auk> dragonfyre13: we wish
[07:16] <holycow> never heard of it
[07:16] <holycow> heh
[07:16] <holycow> and what do you mean windows refund?
[07:16] <whta> how's dual monitor support?
[07:16] <holycow> :)
[07:16] <holycow> whta, excellent :)
[07:16] <auk> holycow, they don't do those... yet
[07:16] <bob__> What is emacs generally used for. Is it mainly used by programmers. Or can it be used to do other things
[07:16] <thrillin`> night ppl...thx again 4 helps
[07:16] <whta> holycow: think it'll detect no problem if I just plug the other sucker in and boot 'er up?
[07:17] <holycow> bob__, generally by programmers you can use it for text editing, writing books, etc.  people have written games in it actually
[07:17] <thrillin`> i could cath 5 hrs sleep still yay
[07:17] <dragonfyre13> holycow: Just refuse the EULA, and then call the manufacturer. Let them know you refused it, and send them a paper signed by the store saying that you removed the OS (Windows) in the store entirely. They are legally bound to send a refund for the amount of the OS.
[07:17] <holycow> its written in lisp and insanely powerfull and easy to extend, you could make it do pretty much anything if you wanted to
[07:17] <yanqing> the system installed on my usb-storage device.
[07:17] <dragonfyre13> holycow: since they can't publish how much they paid MS for it, they give you the retail cost.
[07:17] <holycow> dragonfyre13, i have NEVER had that work
[07:17] <yanqing> i use the general vesa driver for xorg
[07:17] <holycow> wow you actually got your money back?
[07:18] <holycow> actually that CANNOT work according to  ms licencing
[07:18] <dragonfyre13> holycow: lemme pull up a few links. I get my check next week.
[07:18] <holycow> if they are using oem ... the licence dies when they uninstall it
[07:18] <yanqing> why it will auto changed the xorg.conf on different machine
[07:18] <holycow> which  means the store/manufacturer eats 200
[07:18] <holycow> yanqing, what do you mean?
[07:18] <dragonfyre13> holycow: it does. It says you are entitled to a refund for the "software" from the manufacturer if you refuse any clause in the EULA
[07:19] <bob__> So for the average user it is not generally used. Why would I use it for text editing if open office or abiword also allows me to make corrections to document editing.
[07:19] <holycow> thats for retail copies
[07:19] <holycow> not for oem preinstalled
[07:19] <inono> How do I configure an Ubuntu firewall
[07:19] <inono> ?
[07:19] <jbroome> !iptables
[07:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:19] <holycow> the licence for that from ms says that the licence dies with the laptop once installed ... maybe theres fine print i'm missing
[07:19] <yanqing> holycow, kubuntu will auto detect my display card and changed the xorg.conf for it
[07:19] <holycow> dragonfyre13, however, WOW!
[07:19] <holycow> thats wicked, 400 dollar laptop :)
[07:19] <dragonfyre13> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html
[07:19] <holycow> good going dude
[07:19] <dragonfyre13> that's an old one. Dell isn't as easy.
[07:20] <dragonfyre13> there was a big thing around the turn of the mellenium about it. Feb 15 is still windows refund day.
[07:20] <holycow> yanqing, i dind't know they implemented that ... neat.  its must be part of hotplug ... hotplug basically is designed to modularly detect stuff and adjust your ocnfig ... so you can say take an hd plug it in anywhere and it works
[07:20] <auk> are there any issues with amd64 images?
[07:20] <MistaED> ok, then do you need to agree/disagree to the EULA before you buy the machine then which has windows OEM preinstalled?
[07:21] <bob__> Windows refund day!. Wait till Vista comes out first. He He!!
[07:21] <dragonfyre13> MistaED: yeah. Hang on, let me grab a link for the form.
[07:21] <holycow> yanqing, i didn't know it worked for xorg stuff yet ... there is some xorg work comming to actually have dbus ping hotplug or whatever and change xorg in real time
[07:21] <Crescendo_> What kind of macro/hotkey apps are available for Ubuntu/Linux in general?
[07:21] <auk> ...i have a friend who said he tried one, didn't work, so he used the i386... he's rather new to linux, not quite sure what happened
[07:21] <holycow> yanqing, i think you can modify th erules for hotplug to ignore xorg if that is what its doing, i just don't know how