[16:16] <lov> I'll check sources.list.d, thanks
[16:17] <Dr_Willis|2> i think thats the right path
[16:17] <nor_> i want to use a command in the terminal but if i try it tells me i need root priviliges ,i type in su then the pw
[16:17] <nor_> and i try again and it tells me the same
[16:17] <lov> Dr_Willis|2: that was it, thanks.
[16:17] <lov> thanks again for your help, ActionParsnip and Dr_Willis|2
[16:17] <Dulak> nor_: sudo not su
[16:17] <edbian> nor_: sudo command
[16:17] <nor_> oh
[16:18] <nor_> ok i try
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: did you md test the ISO?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> md5 sorry
[16:19] <lucidguy> Dulak: The best work around is to not even use xauth .. but the command "sux"
[16:19] <lucidguy> Dulak: works like a charm
[16:19] <studiomonitor> Hey Stevie
[16:20] <Dulak> lucidguy: hah that does the cookie thing automagjcally and I had completely forgotten about it.  That command basically does what that site I pasted you tells you to do manually
[16:20] <lucidguy> Dulak: yes .. so I noted
[16:20] <TbHack> ActionParsnip: No, how should I do that?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[16:21] <Dulak> lucidguy: upvote for persistence.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: you currently have no way of knowing if the ISO is complete or consistent as you have failed to verify it
[16:21] <janisozaur> is it possible to turn logging on for already started screen session?
[16:21]  * jiltdil gnom3 is nicer than unity
[16:22] <nor_> could someone tell me an example how to use the sudo cuz it looks like im a real retard
[16:23] <Dulak> janisozaur: ctrl-a H
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> nor_: sudo apt-get update
[16:23] <auk> hello, so i just changed my uid on my primary account from 1000 to 500, subsequently i can't get a functional desktop to load with that account
[16:23] <wendico> sorry, noob question, wich is the default directory for the installation of programs on ubuntu?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> nor_: we were all newbies, once
[16:23] <nor_> ty:)
[16:24] <edbian> auk: Are you willing to change your UID back?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> wendico: /usr/bin
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> auk: you will need to chown the home dir to the same user, so it updates the uid
[16:24] <kubanc> can i use 32 bit gparted for 64bit CPU?
[16:24] <wendico> ty monkeydust
[16:24] <edbian> wendico: It throws stuff in various places.  The binaries go in /usr/bin
[16:24] <Dulak> wendico: there is no real default each package has it's own place to install itself, not like in windows where everything is under program files
[16:24] <edbian> kubanc: Yes.  You can use a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> kubanc: yes
[16:24] <livingdaylight> ubuntu bar is stuck in open mode; not re-hiding - help
[16:25] <steveire> Any networking experts here? One natty laptop can access the net fine, and the other can't. The output of ifconfig is very similar
[16:25] <phaidros> howto replace unity with gnome3 in natty?
[16:25] <addisonj> steveire, can you ping google?
[16:25] <steveire> The one that can't access the net also can't get it with a cabe;
[16:25] <auk> there is first a problem with gdm not showing the user entry, which is fixed by clicking Other and typing the username, however then more problems come up - a nautilus error saying it can't create teh Desktop and other defautl folders
[16:25] <wendico> But, when i want to change some program config they always tell me go to /program name/program.conf, thts normaly in usr/bin/program name/program.conf?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> steveire: ethernet or wifi?
[16:25] <auk> as well as several other error windows
[16:25] <steveire> cable*
[16:25] <steveire> MonkeyDust: Both
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> steveire: which won't work, ethernet or wifi?
[16:26] <edbian> wendico: No, those are in your /home/wendico/  folder.  For example, /home/wendico/.mozilla   for firefox
[16:26] <steveire> MonkeyDust: Both do not work
[16:26] <auk> edbian: yes i am willing to change it back temporarily but would be very nice to be able to have it at 500 afterwards, for sharing a home partition with fedora
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3 | phaidros
[16:26] <addisonj> steveire, can you ping google or local machines via IP
[16:26] <edbian> wendico: User specific settings (like firefox bookmarks) are stored in those .folders in your home directory
[16:26] <bretzel> Herllo: I have a seriou issue with ncurses development packages: pkg-config, cmake report missing CURSES_LIBRARY etc. ... I realize that ncurses.pc is missing!!!
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: http://www.mistywindow.com/taming-ubuntu-unity-sidebar/
[16:27] <steveire> We had some network trouble in work, and I had to do sudo route something, and something with dhclient. That was on the 'broken' laptop
[16:27] <phaidros> ActionParsnip: is there a way to get rid of unity safely?
[16:27] <edbian> auk: Then follow ActionParsnip's instructions
[16:27] <phaidros> eg. back to gnome2?
[16:27] <steveire> I can not ping google on the 'broken' one
[16:27] <steveire> It times out
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> phaidros: log in to gnome classic desktop
[16:27] <auk> ...the other option is modigying fedora's uid to 1000, which is possible but might have to involve setting up a dummy first account at install time then creating a new account to be 1000
[16:27] <wendico> Thank you everybody
[16:27] <auk> (edbian)
[16:27] <pstewart> steveire: does it resolve google.com to the ip?
[16:28] <edbian> (auk)
[16:28] <steveire> pstewart: I don't know
[16:28] <phaidros> ActionParsnip: thanx
[16:28] <steveire> would it print output if it did?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> phaidros: np
[16:28] <steveire> Currently it prints only unknown host google.com after about 30 sec
[16:29] <auk> edbian: oh sorry i missed that, this web client is loading things in 30-lien chunks
[16:29] <phox_> Hi! Noob question: does arch use gnome, kde or something else? then what, and what are these types of graphic handlers called? =)
[16:29] <s093294> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /home/s093294/Android/opencv/android/android-opencv/libs/armeabi-v7a/libandroid-opencv.so when searching for -landroid-opencv /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -landroid-opencv    Does this error make any meaning to anyone, no luck on google
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> phox_: arch is offtopic here
[16:29] <phox_> actionparsnip: ops, wrong window :P
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> phox_: clearly ;)
[16:29] <raoult1> HELP
[16:30] <steveire> How do I see/set my dns servers?
[16:30] <auk> ActionParsnip, i also noticed when i changed the uid that i didn't  change the group id etc, just the user id, should i change the others too?
[16:30] <phaidros> steveire: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> auk: not sure, as long as you have a backup you can go crazy :)
[16:30] <steveire> Hmm, both the same
[16:31] <steveire> # Generated by NetworkManager
[16:31] <steveire> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:31] <pstewart> steveire: is your default gateway set properly?
[16:32] <Jack_bt5> server irc.hak5.org
[16:32] <Jack_bt5> server irc.hak5.org 6667
[16:32] <auk> ActionParsnip: haha i don't have a backup, the drive i was using broke
[16:32] <steveire> pstewart: That rings a bell I had to mess with that in work in the last week, but actually a colleague did the changes.
[16:32] <steveire> How do I check that?
[16:32] <pstewart> steveire: route | grep default
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> auk: scary
[16:32] <joris> \join #latex
[16:33] <Sidewinder1> joris, I believe it's "/" not "\"...
[16:33] <auk> ActionParsnip: i should be able to change the permissions from nautilus from another sudoer account no?
[16:33] <gaelfx> haha, kinky
[16:34] <joris> yes idd thanks:p
[16:34] <Sidewinder1> welks
[16:34] <steveire> pstewart: It says the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> on the broken one, and easy.box on this one
[16:34] <steveire> host easy.box returns the same ip on this one
[16:34] <steveire> It also takes much longer on the broken one
[16:34] <pstewart> steveire: so easy.box = <IP_ADDRESS>?
[16:34] <raido> does anyone know a command like "pwd" that will show which filesystem (as in one on a remote server) the cwd is mounted on
[16:35] <steveire> Yes. host easy.box
[16:35] <steveire> easy.box has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:35] <steveire> But the route command takes 14 seconds to print the default line, whereas on this computer it's instant
[16:36] <pstewart> steveire: was there more than one default route?
[16:36] <steveire> This computer also has a link-local line that the broken one does not have
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> raido: mount    will show where things are mountd
[16:36] <bretzel> ...and btw, cpu trottle is above 13% all the time ... I have nothing running that justify that load!
[16:37] <steveire> Nope, the broken one has two lines in the table. One default, and one with Gateway *
[16:37] <steveire> The non-broken one has the extra link-local line
[16:37] <raido> ActionParsnip: Thats only good for the local machine
[16:38] <wendico> can i make my Unity panels smaller, thiner. with smaller icons and letters?
[16:38] <RichieRampage> hi there, I have upgraded my dev server to ubuntu 11.04, fresh vmware install, code lives on shared drive on a windows 7 host. I reinstalled git with sudo apt-get git-core. I am now getting segmentation errors when trying to init a new repo and when I try and clone existing repos to remote server, anyone come across similar? Cheers Rich
[16:38] <edbian> wendico: It is not yet configurable :(
[16:38] <pstewart> steveire: the line with "Gateway *" ... does it have a destination route assiciated with it? (ie. <IP_ADDRESS>)
[16:38] <Dulak> bretzel: umm I have X w/compiz, a music player, a browser, and irc running, and sit at about 15% all the time.  13% means you maybe don't have a music player running...
[16:39] <steveire> Yes, it does
[16:39] <joris> you can try to clone the repo with http
[16:39] <edbian> bretzel: 13% sounds about right.  You have a GUI running?
[16:39] <pstewart> steveire: k, and you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[16:39] <edbian> bretzel: wifi is up?
[16:39] <TbHack> seems like my ISO was broken, lots of errors on checking md5
[16:39] <bretzel> Dulak: mmm normally , when idle cpu should be between 0%-2%
[16:40] <Dulak> bretzel: how do you figure?  X itself is 8-10%
[16:40] <wendico> edbian: ty
[16:40] <edbian> bretzel: Where do you get that figure
[16:40] <edbian> wendico: sure
[16:40] <Dr_Willis|2> ive seen systems running X that idle at 1-2%
[16:40] <bretzel> edbian: no wifi - eth
[16:40] <steveire> pstewart: 41 packets, 100% loss on the broken one
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: thats why MD5 testing exists
[16:40] <eiriksvin> does anyone in here know of a Python programming irc help chan?
[16:40] <steveire> This one works though.
[16:40] <Dulak> eiriksvin: #python
[16:41] <edbian> bretzel: Why do you think it should be 0 - 2%?  How are you measuring it's usage?
[16:41] <pstewart> steveire: have you tried running dhclient again on the broken machine?
[16:41] <unit-01> whoa where am i?
[16:41] <steveire> Yes. Should I run it without arguments?
[16:41] <edbian> unit-01: #ubuntu
[16:41] <auk> ActionParsnip: i probably should have mentioned that this home partition is encrypted...
[16:41] <pstewart> steveire: well, "dhclient eth0" or whatever interface
[16:42] <unit-01> well i think i have some problems with ubuntu now :)
[16:42] <bretzel> edbian: I figure out 0%-2% because normally: ( arch, OpSuSE, Mint, Fedora etc....) does not seems to run background stuff taking 13-15% off the cpu in idle
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> auk: ive not used that, too many headaches
[16:42] <wendico> are the icons in the main bar also not configurable (clock, sound...)? i like to have 2 more icons-utils on that panel
[16:42] <edbian> bretzel: How are you measuring?
[16:42] <abhinav_singh> what are the shells available in Ubuntu system by default
[16:43] <pstewart> steveire: can you pastebin the output of: route && ifconfig && cat /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[16:43] <bretzel> edbian: ( conky, htop, top, /proc/cpu et ... ?????
[16:43] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: bash, dash, sh
[16:43] <Sidewinder1> !ask > unit-01
[16:44] <abhinav_singh> is there any command to see what are the shells available Dulak
[16:44] <edbian> bretzel: Those are good methods.  (if you use gnome-system monitor it takes so much cpu to draw the graphs it's useless)  I don't have an accurate number for fedora / suse / mint.  Perhaps your computer is doing something in Ubuntu that it is not doing on those systems.  I am not surprised by ~10% usage at idle.
[16:44] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to reg my name with Freenode?
[16:44] <bretzel> even kdevelop not taking more than 3%... right now
[16:44] <auk> ActionParsnip: well in essence i can't see any files unless i'm logged in. so in essence i need to change the file permissions from that account before changin the uid. but will this prevent correct behavoir between the time of modifying the permissions and being fully logged out of the account?
[16:44] <v_v> eiriksvin: /msg nickserv help
[16:44] <Distress> pulseaudio is horrible, audio playback is terrible, audio input barely works. How do i remove this abomination?
[16:44] <abhi_> my nautilus is not working properly
[16:44] <pstewart> abhinav_singh: cat /etc/shells
[16:45] <llutz>  /etc/shells lists only login shells
[16:45] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: not that I'm aware, there is a list in /etc/shells but they can be in that list but not installed on the machine
[16:45] <wendico> what are the default shortkeys for zooming?
[16:45] <pstewart> oh right
[16:45] <pstewart> well, it's a start :)
[16:45] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: by default only the 3 I listed are installed, afaik
[16:46] <cocoa117> EOF upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 (Jaunty to Karmic) have error message Cannot upgrade
[16:46] <cocoa117> An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.
[16:46] <steveire> pstewart: http://dpaste.com/548726/
[16:46] <unit-01> so, im a total newbie to all this, and my ubuntu bitching about free space, so i rebooted under XP, chopped off 4 gbs from 1 logic drive, and increased my ubuntu drive. i can see ubuntu drive is 9 gbs now and it's 49% free. but ubuntu STILL bitches about "185 mbs free space". so, what should i do?
[16:46] <pushpop> my disk says its 100% in use but I can't find any files that would be taking up space.. what should I do??
[16:46] <cocoa117> i didn't ask for lucid upgrade, i was going for karmic upgrade
[16:46] <edbian> pushpop: (clear the trash) look at disk usage analyzer
[16:46] <Sidewinder1> !eol > cocoa117
[16:46] <NoiseEee> I take it the 404 NOT FOUND for updating libpam stuff today is a known issue?
[16:47] <kubanc> what is better to have, ext4 or ext3?
[16:47] <abhinav_singh> okay pstewart Dulak :) ...i see the output of  /etc/shells http://pastebin.com/sTP3EKqT
[16:47] <Ivan_The_Terribl> Hi all. Are there any ways to alter the common gtk2 file selector, specifically the size of image thumbnails? I run opera and gtk2 file selector doesn't allow to change size of thumbnails - thumbs are very small and it's very hard to upload, for instance, a pic. I can switch opera file selector to qt, but qt works very slow on my system
[16:47] <Pici> !pamerr| NoiseEee
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> cocoa117: try using the alternate CD and upgrade that way
[16:47] <NoiseEee> thanks Pici
[16:47] <pushpop> edbian, nothing in trash and disk usage showing 100%
[16:47] <pstewart> steveire: does it work better if you do: ifdown wlan1  (with an ethernet cable plugged in)
[16:47] <arvut__> oink
[16:47] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: that list is not what is installed, it's just the most common shells you might want to run, it has zero to do with what is actually installed
[16:47] <edbian> pushpop: disk usage analyzer  Are you using unity or classic?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: try: sudo apt-get clean
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: also uninstall old unused kernels can help lots
[16:48] <abhinav_singh> okay Dulak ..what are the other shells type apart form login shells
[16:48] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: I don't understand the question
[16:48] <pushpop> ilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[16:48] <pushpop> /dev/sda1             141G  134G  308M 100% /
[16:49] <abhinav_singh> i mean what are the other shell types..one is the login shell ..what are the other types Dulak
[16:49] <steveire> pstewart: It says Ingoring unknown interface wlan1=wlan1
[16:49] <edbian> pushpop: Nobody is doubting that the system is full.  Please do what we're suggesting
[16:49] <taowa> !cloak
[16:49] <pushpop> did
[16:49] <pushpop> edbian, none of which worked
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: do you use dropbox?
[16:49] <pushpop> =P
[16:49] <kubanc> what should i add for swap space. should it be primary or secondary?
[16:49] <pushpop> ActionParsnip, yes
[16:50] <edbian> pushpop: disc usage analyzer didn't show you what folders are taking up the most space?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: what is the output of:   du -h ~/Dropbox
[16:50] <steveire> The second time it says it's not configured.
[16:50] <taowa> can i have a cloak
[16:50] <pushpop> edbian, /home
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> kubanc: it doesn't matter
[16:50] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: again it's not clear, a login shell is any shell used to login, any shell can be a login shell
[16:50] <pushpop> but cant find the files taking space
[16:50] <gaelfx> kubanc: swap is generally part of a logical partition, and should be double your physical ram
[16:50] <squig> does any one know how "hyper threading" aware the kernel is
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> !cloak | taowa
[16:50] <eiriksvin> is there a way to auto indentify with nickserv?
[16:50] <wendico> May I remove Trash from the Unity Panel? How?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: which client?
[16:50] <abhinav_singh> so ubuntu default login shell is dash? Dulak
[16:50] <eiriksvin> Xchat
[16:50] <edbian> pushpop: look deeper in disc usage.  I suspect ActionParsnip is right.  (he/she usually is)
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> edbian: he ;)
[16:51] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: bash is the default in ubuntu
[16:51] <taowa> !cloak | taowa
[16:51] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbd of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[16:51] <steveire> pstewart: Hmm, I disabled the wireless with the hardware switch and the wired now works
[16:51] <abhinav_singh> okay Dulak
[16:51] <sipior> pushpop: consider changing the default disk block reservation on the disk from 5% to 0% to alleviate the immediate problem.
 XChat
[16:51] <pstewart> steveire: k
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=2660 may help
[16:52] <steveire> pstewart: And after re-enabling wireless works too.
[16:52] <steveire> Bizarre. Thanks very much for your help.
[16:52] <pstewart> steveire: cool
[16:52] <pstewart> np
[16:52] <steveire> network stuff is still a dark art to me.
[16:52] <_thomas__> Hi, someone could please tell me where can I set time of disabled touchpad when I'm typing? The default is too long for me.
[16:53] <M4d3L> hi. how we restart network on ubuntu?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L: sudo servicenetworking restart
[16:53] <edbian> M4d3L: sudo service networking stop    sudo service networking start
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> sudo service networking restart
[16:53] <edbian> ActionParsnip: I don't think restart is a thing anymore
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bah
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> well.....it should be :)
[16:53] <edbian> agreed
[16:53] <Peanut> Hi, I'm trying to bootstrap a brand-new PC. I've made an USB stick with the Ubuntu installer on it and it boots, asks for language and keyboard, but then goes 'No network interfaces detected', foiling my plan to have it just slurp the rest of Ubuntu from our fast net connection. Any hints on how to add to the installer a kernel module for my network card?
[16:54] <edbian> Peanut: wifi or wired?
[16:54] <M4d3L> sudo service networking restart   ==> Unknow instance
[16:54] <edbian> told ya so
[16:54] <Peanut> wired (not stupid ;-)
[16:54] <Dulak> yeah you have to stop it then start it again
[16:54] <edbian> Peanut: I'm surprised it doesn't work out of the box.  Do you have DHCP running.  Can you confirm that the network is operational?
[16:54] <taowa> anyone from ubuntu
[16:55] <M4d3L> stop: Unknown instance:
[16:55] <Dulak> Gotta love that they made it impossible to remotely restart the network
[16:55] <edbian> taowa: Ubuntu is an operating system not a place
[16:55] <Peanut> edbian: It fails even before that (DHCP is not a requirement), it simply finds no networking hardware to even attempt to DHCP with.
[16:55] <Ddpbf> M4d3L: sudo service network not networking
[16:55] <taowa> no ubuntu staff
[16:55] <Pici> taowa: Whats the question?
[16:55] <unit-01> i could use some help here...
[16:55] <M4d3L> network: unrecognized service
[16:55] <edbian> Peanut: I'm not sure then.  Try a full Ubuntu CD.  You only have to download it once and your network connection should make that fast as heck  (USB drive even faster)
[16:55] <mrNotYou> Taowa, not really, the help you get here is usually from fellw ubuntu users, so if you have a question ask away :)
[16:55] <edbian> M4d3L: networking
[16:55] <pusur907> hello?
[16:56] <mrNotYou> *fellow (Taowa)
[16:56] <pusur907> HellO??
[16:56] <Peanut> edbian: But I have no CD. I have the ISO, but no media.
[16:56] <mrNotYou> Yes, pusur907?
[16:56] <Pici> pusur907: hi!
[16:56] <Sidewinder1> pusur907, Good afternoon.
[16:56] <justinx> Hello
[16:56] <pusur907> wazzup
[16:56] <M4d3L> mdelisle@mdelisle-vserver:~$ sudo service networking
[16:56] <M4d3L> Usage: /etc/init.d/networking {start|stop|restart|force-reload}
[16:56] <M4d3L> mdelisle@mdelisle-vserver:~$ sudo service networking stop
[16:56] <M4d3L> stop: Unknown instance:
[16:56] <gaelfx> hello
[16:57] <edbian> M4d3L: what version of Ubuntu are you on??
[16:57] <M4d3L> LST
[16:57] <gaelfx> !pb > M4d3L
[16:57] <edbian> Peanut: unetbootin
[16:57] <taowa> !cloak
[16:57] <edbian> Peanut: How did you get the net-installer loaded?
[16:57] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbd of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[16:57] <justinx> I got a problem I think, when I check my disk utility it shows I have two swaps (two different sizes also) for one copy of linux
[16:57] <jebula> Hi, I've been trying to launch geany as a normal user and I get a segmentation fault. I can however launch it when I issue the sudo command prior. Any ideas or help is appreciated.
[16:57] <edbian> M4d3L: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:57] <M4d3L> gaelfx: you will cry for 4 line?
[16:57] <edbian> justinx: You only need one :)  Start up gparted and remove one (install gparted if you need to)
[16:58] <edbian> gaelfx: You will cry?
[16:58] <M4d3L> ty! sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart is working
[16:58] <edbian> sure
 um, its talking about adding a script, but I don't know how, and I can't find the Server settings for auto identify
[16:58] <squig> does any one know how "hyper threading" aware the kernel is
[16:59] <roestzwii> hey guys
[16:59] <Peanut> edbian: that might be worthwhile - I'm currently on an OpenSuse system,
[16:59] <justinx> Okay I will get gparted when you install does it automatically show up on the boot screen or do you need a boot disk
[16:59] <edbian> Peanut: unetbootin is neat
[16:59] <Pici> taowa: What is your question?
[16:59] <roestzwii> i want to use gunzip on a ubuntu server, but i need to make the | sign how can i do that?
[16:59] <edbian> justinx: Because you're only editing swap partitions you can boot Ubuntu normally and run gparted in there.
[16:59] <jason^> any chance a new version of pam that was released might break cron?
[16:59] <edbian> roestzwii: shift + [button above enter]
[16:59] <Peanut> edbian: looks neat, but it seems to want the whole ISO on the stick, I hope there's enough room for that.
[16:59] <roestzwii> it tells me this in an example: gunzip -c psyBNC-2.3.2-7.tar.gz | tar xf -
[17:00]  * sipior waves at Peanut
[17:00]  * Peanut is too used to pxe-booting stuff
[17:00] <Peanut> Hey sip :-)
[17:00] <Pici> jason^: Yes. But its been pulled from the repositories, it shouldn't download.
[17:00] <edbian> Peanut: hahaha
[17:00] <roestzwii> shift + backspace?
[17:00] <wendico> i see something very strange. in a laptop with 3 primary partitions (hardwaretest, recovey, windows), i shrinked windows to minimun and in the free space i created an extended partition with 3 logical  (ubuntu, DATA (ntfs), swap). And installed ubuntu. Everything works ok BUT windows disk manager shows 4Primary (hardtest, recove, windows, ubuntu) one extended with a logic (DATA ntfs) and a 5th primary at the end (linux-swap). LOL? Erased
[17:00] <edbian> Peanut: you're being waved at
[17:00] <wendico>  all but the 3 first primarys (HWtest, rec, windows) and repeated the process with exactly same results. what is wrong? (i parted with gparted and installed trough ubuntu live usb.
[17:00] <Pici> !pamerr | jason^
[17:00] <justinx> edbian another question how do I determine which is the right swap :-#
[17:00] <Sidewinder1> roestzwii, On a desktop, it's the upper-case directly above the "enter" key.
[17:00] <roestzwii> okay
[17:00] <edbian> roestzwii: That one:  http://www.lunametrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pipeKey-150x150.png
[17:01] <roestzwii> i have a windows system and try to access to the server with putty
[17:01] <Peanut> sipior: got my new office PC today, as you might have noticed *grin*
[17:01] <jason^> Pici: yeah a bunch of my servers updated at 6am today and they all pulled down new versions of that bad package
[17:01] <edbian> justinx: Either one will work.  It does not matter
[17:01] <jebula> Does anyone else use geany and is it broken on your system as well?
[17:01] <Pici> roestzwii: On a standard US keyboard the | is shared with \ and is typically located above your enter key.
[17:01] <pushpop> edbian, I'm finiding if I clear space it gets writtent to immediately... there is something running thats constantly feeling up my hd
[17:01] <edbian> pushpop: That is very very strange.
[17:01] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to set XChat to auto identify my nick please
[17:01] <Pici> jason^: I manually updated around that time and grabbed it too.  The bug has a workaround for restarting cron, but we'll need to wait for the package to be updated before there is a real fix.
[17:01] <rikva> I'm using a new Thinkpad Edge 13, with Intel GM45 display controller. I obviously use the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver. However the video performance is awful. Not just 3d stuff, I can't even watch a divx-video. Glxgears pfs is around 50. Any pointers?
[17:02] <roestzwii> okay, thanks
[17:03] <Dulak> eiriksvin: Xchat->network list then edit the network, there is a place to put your nickserv password there, then whenever you connect to that network it should auto auth
[17:03] <justinx> Anybody know how I know which swap to get rid of if I have two?
[17:03]  * tommylommykins waves
[17:03] <ubuntu908> waves
[17:03]  * tommylommykins is having isues with the virtual desktop resolution and fglrx
[17:03] <gaelfx> justinx: it shouldn't matter which one you nix
[17:03] <maco> justinx: if you look at /etc/fstab you can see the UUID for the one thats being used. then blkid on the various partitions on your drive should let you see which one matches that UUID
[17:03]  * _mike__ waves at tommylommykins
[17:03] <tommylommykins> I want to set it to 3072x1152
[17:04] <tommylommykins> But I can't seem to be able to do that
[17:04] <taowa> is there any staff
[17:04] <tommylommykins> any hints?
[17:04] <justinx> huh
[17:04] <eiriksvin> Dulak thank you, testing it now:P
[17:04] <Dulak> tommylommykins: 2048 is the max width iirc
[17:04] <tommylommykins> Dulak: in fglrx?
[17:04] <tommylommykins> Dulak: How am I supposed to get my two monitors working? Is it not possible?
[17:05] <justinx> Im sorry maco how do I do that
[17:05] <Dulak> tommylommykins: I'm probably wrong I think that max width was for my crappy laptop
[17:05] <_mike__> you might try messing with xconf file
[17:06] <tommylommykins> _mike__: I have had issues finding an xorg.conf file that actually gets read
[17:06] <justinx> Where do I find Gparted its not in the software centere is it?
[17:06] <taowa> is there any ubuntu staff
[17:06] <tommylommykins> I'm under the impression that there is not necessarily always a physical xorg.conf file?
[17:06] <maco> justinx: gparted should be in software center...
[17:06] <_mike__> tommylommykins: i think now you have to issue a command that creates a xorg.conf file
[17:07] <Dulak> tommylommykins: there isn't one by default but /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be read if it exists, so you can force settings you need
[17:07] <justinx> maybe because i am running pinguy which is based on ubuntu
[17:07] <tommylommykins> Dulak: I have edited that. It seems to be ignoring what I wrote
[17:07] <maco> justinx: "cat /etc/fstab" would let you see your swap's UUID. then "sudo fdisk -l" lets you see which partitions could be your swap ones, and you can "sudo blkid /dev/sda3" (or whatever fdisk said) to find out which is the one that matches fstab
[17:07] <gaelfx> tommylommykins: no, but if you use nvidia drivers, they'll probably ask you to make one
[17:07] <taowa>  can i get a cloak
[17:07] <tommylommykins> maybe I wrote it all wrong
[17:07] <Pici> taowa: Are you an Ubuntu Member?
[17:08] <wendico> justinx: gnome partition editor in software centre is gparted
[17:08] <tommylommykins> gaelfx: I don't think nvidia drivers work on AMD/ATI hardware :(
[17:08] <justinx> I type it in and it comes up Gnome Partiion Editor and its alraedy installed
[17:08] <Dulak> tommylommykins: yeah check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:08] <taowa> i applyed  but i havent recived a response
[17:08] <_mike__> tommylommykins: did you edit it as root?
[17:08] <tommylommykins> _mike__: yes
[17:09] <maco> taowa: you have to show up to a meeting with your Regional Membership Board in #ubuntu-meeting at the scheduled time
[17:09] <tommylommykins> hmm
[17:09] <christen> Is it possible to use a second monitor and have a different workspace on the monitor?
[17:09] <tommylommykins> the log make no mention of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or 'resolution'
[17:09] <tommylommykins> :s
[17:09] <_mike__> and you placed it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:09] <tommylommykins> _mike__: Yes
[17:09] <Pici> taowa: If you just want an unaffiliated cloak, you can request in #freenode. If they told you to wait, then you need to wait.
[17:09] <maco> taowa: you'll be expected to have a wiki page detailing your contributions and some testimonials from folks who've seen the good work you do. then the board will ask you questions at the meeting and vote on whether you become a member at that time
[17:10] <arvut__> Þici...
[17:10] <tommylommykins> http://pastebin.com/1THPDY0V
[17:10] <tommylommykins> did I do anything stupid there?
[17:10] <arvut__> mïñð íf I be here? I'm high on weed.
[17:10] <tommylommykins> hmm
[17:10] <wendico> christen: as i tested u can either strech your work space to the other monitor making a bigger space or have two complete separated workspaces (with even there own panels)
[17:10] <amoe> hi all
[17:11] <_mike__> was up amoe?
[17:11] <amoe> Is there any mirrors for ancient ubuntu releases like intrepid?
[17:11] <jebula> Hi, I've been trying to launch geany as a normal user and I get a segmentation fault. I can however launch it when I issue the sudo command prior. Any ideas or help is appreciated.
[17:11] <arvut__> amoe thee shall goo-gle
[17:11] <amoe> I did
[17:11] <maco> !eol | amoe
[17:11] <arvut__> as in 'go glee'
[17:11] <Pici> amoe: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com , but you should really consider using a supported release.
[17:11] <amoe> thanks Pici
[17:12] <bolt12> is geany a IDE?
[17:12] <christen> wedico: would I need to set that up? the panels I mean?
[17:12] <Pici> arvut__: You may depart if you aren't going to be providing helpful comments.
[17:12] <maco> bolt12: yeah, for python
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> amoe: you could get the last daily alternate ISO if one exists and use that
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> bolt12: yes
[17:12] <alvin123> hi,, i`m installing xubuntu 11.04 right now alongside with windows 7.. why is it that the installing process shows no progress? and there is a dialogue in the panel saying reboot is required?
[17:12] <maco> jebula: is it possible that the first time you used it it was with sudo and now the config files for it in your ~ have wrong ownership?
[17:12] <kubanc> how do i get into grub menu if it is hidden from me?
[17:12] <wendico> christen: in my case they just appeared duplicated, then i could add or remove icons independently
[17:12] <tommylommykins> alvin123: It sounds like it's finished install ubuntu
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> kubanc: hold shift at boot
[17:13] <tommylommykins> You just need to reboot to finish
[17:13] <justinx> Maco u there?
[17:13] <alvin123> why is it such that quick?
 thank you, now I just have to find a way to set a delay before auto-joining certain chans :D I'm learning Python right now, that could be a good goal (I got 2 now, 1 make a wifi signal strength meter that shows a percentage right in my top panel, then make a script that does the delayed auto-join :D )
[17:13] <christen> Okay, I'll give that a go and we'll see.
[17:13] <wendico> christen: i forgot to adviced you, i was trying with Ubuntu Classic log in, not Unity
[17:13] <maco> justinx: yup
[17:13] <justinx> Here is my paste bin I am still not sure what to remove ..take a look 0  http://pastebin.com/K88Tn89w
[17:13] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbs of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[17:13] <arvut__> oh right!!! this in not ot. Ty Þi©i, I shall Ðeparŧ! *bows and makes łeave*
[17:14] <_mike__> alvin are you using wubi?
[17:14] <wendico> christen: i do not know yet how unity behaves with two monitors
[17:14] <Dulak> eiriksvin: I posted a bug on xchat for a delay and they closed it as wontfix
[17:14] <maco> Dulak, eiriksvin: if you just want to get nickserv to identify before you join, put your nickserv password as the server password instead
[17:14] <Peanut> Ah, putting the netboot image on the USB stick has gotten me into a working installer with network. Yay.
[17:14] <alvin123> no, this is a live usb..
[17:15] <Dulak> maco mmmm thanks I'll try that
[17:15] <_mike__> then i dont know why... see if rebooting does it
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> lxde + unity2D = winning
[17:15] <Dulak> reconnecting to test
[17:16] <GhostWolf> hi all, hope someone can help me real quick, i just acquired a modem that a friend gave to me, or persay its a gateway that has wireless capabilities, im able to connect to the internet, but since lastnight i noticed that on all 3 networks im on, it disconnects with the error message network is unreachable, i just googled that info and i don't know if its my operating system or my router, or both. can anyone please help?
[17:16] <alvin123> before installing this, there is a previous xubuntu 10.10 that is upgraded and messed up by me. then i used gparted to shrink the ext partition to give up windows additional 5 gib..
[17:16] <wendico> christen: i also found out that the most bugfree configuration is just to mirror your screen (like for presentations and all that) when i really want to strech my working space and work with two monitors i always came up with strange situations (windows not remembering wich screen should appear, full screnn aps running only in main screen....)
[17:17] <christen> what if the resolution is different?
[17:17] <wendico> christen: resolution and sizes are not problem at all
[17:17] <christen> oh okay.
[17:17] <justinx> it say swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation so do I remove the swap that sda5
[17:17] <patc> hi, can someone explain me what cryptsetup is going to do if i use sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<myoptionshere> /dev/sdf instead of sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<options> /dev/sdf<partition number>? I tried and it seems to be working as if the device itself was encrypted, but is this going to give specific problems?
[17:18] <christen> so I should try classic log in?
[17:18] <christen> because there seems to be this other one...that unity uses..it takes longer to reboot
[17:18] <alvin123> by the way, whats the best way to install xubuntu? install alongside or the last option?
[17:19] <unit-01> oh for love of gods! will anybody answer my question?
[17:19] <Dulak> maco: that's awesome thanks, that was bugging me badly about xchat
[17:19] <GhostWolf> well guess i'll come back
[17:20] <justinx> Wait i just got an error messg someone help.. says.  Unable to delete /dev/sda5! Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5
[17:21] <patc> hi, can someone explain me what cryptsetup is going to do if i use sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<options> /dev/sdf instead of sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<options> /dev/sdf<partition number>? I tried and it seems to be working as if the device itself was encrypted, but is this going to give specific problems? In fact I just didn't give a specific partition number... juste the divise name...
[17:21] <justinx> I cant unmount my system can I ?
[17:21] <patc> device name*
[17:21] <justinx> Its lower than 5
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> what's the bot message for the pam error?
[17:21] <wendico> justinx: i guess so are trying to delete a partition, no, u cant unmount your system, u can only delete partitions not in use
[17:21] <Pici> MonkeyDust: !pamerr or !pamerror
[17:21] <alvin123> whats the use of 5?
[17:21] <maco> justinx: i suspect its because of it being logical, not primary. probably best to just work from a live cd
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !pamerr > MonkeyDust
[17:22] <TbHack> I wondered, what's an alternative to VIM for coding?
[17:22] <TbHack> i don't mind it being in the terminal
 true_helper = 'maco is Awesome for helping us!'
[17:22] <Pici> !!editors | TbHack
[17:22] <v_v> TbHack: emacs ?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: nano,pico, vi
[17:22] <eiriksvin> print true_helper
[17:22] <Pici> TbHack: Ands thats just a small list of them
[17:22] <justinx> Can you install gparted and put it in your boot menu
[17:22] <eiriksvin> heh
[17:23] <TbHack> ok thx guys
[17:23] <maco> justinx: you can run it from a live cd
[17:23] <wendico> justinx: you can safetly unmount and delete any partition non in use and not in front (fisically) of a partition in use. if that one is your case then u must boot from live
[17:23] <justinx> so sda5 is def the swap I need to get rid of?
[17:23] <kvirc> hi
[17:23] <kvirc> could anyone help me with a wubi problem?
[17:23] <kvirc> i installed ubuntu with wubi under windows
[17:23] <justinx> Ok gparted has live cd i just download that
[17:24] <kvirc> and the install went ok
[17:24] <kvirc> but when rebooting the bootloader doesnt show ubuntu
[17:24] <kvirc> the windows bootloader doesnt change
[17:24] <kvirc> weird
[17:24] <kvirc> since on other computers ive tried it  works
[17:24] <justinx> My computer keeps going crazy and popping up that I just installed/removed usb drive and media reader..... the notices are making me go wako!
[17:25] <wendico> justinx: you should look at the map in your partition editor, sometimes numbers of the partition (sda1, 2, 3) do not necesarilly shows if it is in front or behind of a used partition
[17:25] <eiriksvin> maco yay the server password worked for my nickserv!!
[17:25] <Growling>  /server irc.office.xs4all.nl
[17:25] <kvirc> hello?
[17:25] <eiriksvin> kvirc hi
[17:25] <wendico> justinx: con can only delete those partitions to the right of the last 'in use' partition or u can boot live and delete all disk
[17:25] <kvirc> hi
[17:26] <kvirc> did you read my problem error?
[17:26] <kvirc> this is strange wubi doesnt change the windows bootloader
[17:26] <kvirc> i cant start ubuntu
[17:26] <justinx> I have windwws installed first, then i installed ubuntu, then I got rid of ubuntu by installing pinguy over ubuntu
[17:26] <kvirc> strange
[17:26] <eiriksvin> hmm
[17:26] <kvirc> maybe its because this computer is older?
[17:27] <kvirc> it's main hd is IDE
[17:27] <justinx> now I kind of want to go back to ubuntu.. but im afraid gnome isn't ready yet
[17:27] <kvirc> i installed another one SATA
[17:27] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbs of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[17:27] <kvirc> thats where i want to install ubunt with wubi
[17:27] <eiriksvin> kvirc no that shouldn't be a problem, I used the LIVE CD that worked for me, but idk
[17:27] <eiriksvin> kvirc sorry
[17:28] <kvirc> ok
[17:28] <kvirc> this is dissapointing
[17:28] <taowa> !cloak
[17:28] <kvirc> wubi doesnt work here
[17:28] <kvirc> anyone else know?
[17:28] <kvirc> anything i could try?
[17:28] <unit-01> kvirc - try again?
[17:28]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs,... not cloak, again.
[17:28] <kvirc> i did
[17:28] <justinx> Why do people use gnome when KDE is more polished shiny looking.  If kde had the number of programs and support as gnome does would everybody be using kde instead?
[17:29] <LjL> !ot | justinx
[17:29] <kvirc> fluxbox ftw
[17:29] <eiriksvin> kvirc try reinstalling from live cd
[17:29] <kvirc> wubi installs on the folder i tell it to
[17:29] <R1ngh10> hi, my intel 855 vga support Unity?
[17:29] <kvirc> i dont have livecd
[17:29] <kvirc> im installing from image cd
[17:29] <eiriksvin> kvirc USB?
[17:29] <kvirc> with wubi
[17:30] <kvirc> i only using wubi
[17:30] <eiriksvin> kvirc that is the live cd, do you have a disk?
[17:30] <kvirc> no, i just loaded with virtual drive
[17:31] <eiriksvin> kvirc can you use a USB?
[17:31] <christen> Is it possible to have different backgrounds for different workspaces?
[17:31] <Sidewinder1> kvirc, My advice would be to discontinue wubi; it's primary purpose is to try ubuntu. If you like it and still need windows simply install ubuntu and dual boot with win.
[17:31] <wendico> may i safetly install diferent desktop enviroments (kde, gnome, unity, flux....) on the same installation of ubuntu for test purposes? whould they live together correctly or do i need  no unistall each one to test the following?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> wendico: absolutely
[17:31] <rickey> hey guy,s i just downloaded hardysomeone told me i need to some meta  file to get all my  player and music straiten out
[17:31] <eiriksvin> christen anything is possible, but it may take a bit a work
[17:32] <LjL> wendico: they'll work, you'll just have a bit of cruft in the apps menu, and it might be tricky to remove them later
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> wendico: add as many as you can hold on your drive, you select the DE at login
[17:32] <rickey>  any of you guy know what they was talking about
[17:32] <kvirc> im not buying a CD
[17:32] <rickey>  i am very green
[17:32] <kvirc> im installing with wubi
[17:32] <christen> eiriksvin: is there anything that you can send me to show me how?
[17:32] <eiriksvin> kvirc you don't have to buy a cd
[17:32] <kvirc> then ill make a normal installation from there
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> rickey: hardy desktop is no longer supported, you can upgrade to Lucid in a single jump though
[17:32] <kvirc> im not buying cd-r
[17:32] <wendico> ActionParsnip: LjL: thank you. dont bother about then solving conflicts i will just format, is for test purposes
[17:32] <taowa> why did they discontinue shipit
[17:33] <mattk> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu from the liveusb using the terminal?
[17:33] <LjL> kvirc: uh, i don't think you can do a normal installation from wubi...? can you?
[17:33] <rs0832> kvirc, you can install virtualbox and install ubuntu frm the cd image if you want to try it
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> mattk: run ubiquity and it will install
[17:33] <sparr> How can I add "Guest Session" as an option when my screen is locked, so that other people can use my computer when I'm afk?
[17:33] <eiriksvin> christen I have never tried it myself, but i have heard of it, try google is the best option... sorry
[17:33] <donkeyinspace> hello! i have an usb pen with a "failed" ubuntu installation. when that pen is connected to the computer booting dont go beyond motherboard logo. how do i "erase" the pen?
[17:34] <christen> eiriksvin: okay, Thanks anyways! :D
[17:34] <kvirc> i need 3d
[17:34] <kvirc> no 3d in virtualbox
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> donkeyinspace: use gparted or disk manager in windows
[17:34] <pinoyoragon> Any news on the OPTIMUS issue on linux? did nvidia release a patch?
[17:34] <rickey> can you tale me how to upgrade  to lucid where do i start?
[17:34] <LjL> !upgrade | rickey
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kvirc: ther is 3d but its not brilliant
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> pinoyoragon: ive seen a project called bumblebee
[17:35] <wendico> donkeyinspace: you can easily erase and rebuild your ubuntu pen with Startup Disk Creator (default installed)
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> pinoyoragon: the omgubuntu site has a doc on it
[17:35] <mattk> ActionParsnip: this is what I get (gksudo:5606): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> !install
[17:36] <mattk> ActionParsnip: My monitor is not working. I ssh into from another computer
[17:36] <wendico> by the way, is it posible to build from a windows iso a booting pen drive of windows installation from ubuntu?
[17:36] <mattk> ActionParsnip: The GPU is dead
[17:37] <kvirc> is there a way to install with 3d that doesnt use CD/usb/anything additional?
[17:37] <kubro> LibreOffice 3.3.2 Macro Security crash on Ubuntu. Unable to enable macro's. works on windows install but not ubuntu. need help please.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> mattk: then the system would fail POST and refuse to boot
[17:38] <donkeyinspace> wendico , thanks , procedure wasn t very clear but i guess it worked
[17:39] <mattk> ActionParsnip: Well something isn't right. I can't see the motherboard post, can see the little ubuntu load screen with the dots and get into a terminal but that's it
[17:39] <mattk> ActionParsnip: blindly got xp working and could remote into it
[17:40] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:40] <Peanut> Meh.. can it be that an Ubuntu archive is out of date with itself? Installation is trying to find libpam0g_1.1.202ubuntu8.2_amd64.deb, but only the %8.1_amd64.deb and %9amd_64.deb exist on the mirror.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> mattk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[17:41] <Pici> !pamerr | Peanut
[17:41] <Peanut> ubottu: thanks, that's exactly my problem.
[17:41] <Peanut> That bot is scary clever at times.
[17:41] <Pici> Peanut: Only when we teach it clever things.
[17:41] <mattk> ActionParsnip: Thank you. I'll give it a shot. People were telling me I couldn't do this type of install from the liveusb but it's the only one that works for me so far.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> mattk: the deb is: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.32_all.deb   not the one in the guide
[17:43] <bayazid> hi
[17:43] <mattk> ActionParsnip: I can't use the liveusb?
[17:43] <bayazid> i dont know
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> mattk: sure you can
[17:44] <mattk> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help
[17:45] <trufa> I change the time of the system and it goes back to the old time
[17:46] <bayazid> I have a VAIO labtop and i installed the linux OS aside windows 7 then my hard drive teperature goes up to 50 C then i appreciate any help or advice?
[17:46] <trufa> I already set the time to my local zone
[17:46] <trufa> I have ubuntu 10.10
[17:48] <Sidewinder1> !botsnack > Peanut
[17:48] <Peanut> Err... thanks, Sidewinder1 ?
[17:48] <Sidewinder1> Peanut, :-)
[17:49] <oCean> !nickspam | XuMuK
[17:49] <trufa> I set the system time and it goes back to the way it was, any idea?
[17:49] <rawfodog> hi guys
[17:50] <llutz> trufa: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
[17:50] <bayazid> hiegh hard drive temperature?
[17:51] <kaisa> fuck
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy
[17:51] <oCean> kaisa: don't
[17:51] <compdoc> bayazid, 50c isnt horrible, but its warmer than I would like
[17:52] <bayazid> height tnxcompdoc
[17:52] <trufa> llutz: thanks
[17:53] <compdoc> you can get lower temps using a drive that only runs 5400 or 5900 rpm
[17:53] <bayazid> how can get this driver
[17:53] <bayazid> ?
[17:53] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how do i fix this,  perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[17:53] <sw0rdfish> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:   LANGUAGE = (unset),  LC_ALL = (unset),  	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"     are supported and installed on your system.  perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[17:54] <Dulak> you can also stick a 120mm fan in the case directly pointing at your drives, I have that setup for a raid 5 box and it cut like 12C off the drive temps
[17:54] <sloucher> How do you upgrade older distribution. I'm on 9.04 and I want to get to 10.04 eventually.
[17:55] <KM0201> !eol | sloucher
[17:55] <bayazid> tnx Dulak
[17:55] <sloucher> ty KM0201
[17:55] <gratnam11> can some one tell me how to wipe out my entire hardrive
[17:55] <bayazid> but i have a labtop ?
[17:55] <gratnam11> how do i see the installed hard drive
[17:55] <Dr_Willis|2> sw0rdfish:  its just a warning so not critical - i looked it up once on the forums and had to do some command to remove the warning.
[17:56] <Dr_Willis|2> gratnam11:  sudo fdisk -l  shows all seen disks.
[17:56] <alvin_> hello buddies,, i'm running a fresh install xubuntu 11.04 and i ccan't play mp3 files it says>> #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ
[17:56] <alvin_> * Topic for #debian set by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at Tue May 10 00:50:44 2011
 Just explain your problem
[17:56] <alvin_> * ich<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #debian
[17:56] <alvin_> * ich has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[17:56] <gratnam11> ok thanks
[17:56] <FloodBot1> alvin_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <alvin_> * jthomas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[17:56] <Dr_Willis|2> gratnam11:  what are you going to do with the HD later?
 hello there,, i can`t play mp3 files it says >> Playing error : Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in. at /usr/bin/../share/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm line 135.
[17:56] <KM0201> sloucher: it might be faster to just backup data and clean install 10.04, 10.10 or 11.04
[17:56] <sw0rdfish> Dr_Willis|2, so its not important that LC=ALL is not set to anything
[17:56] <wendico> sloucher: with the Update Manager. Remember to check in the Settings of the Update Manager, under the Updates tab to check wich Release Upgrade do you want Ubuntu to show you.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis|2> sw0rdfish:  it supposed to be your language i recall. so error messges get to be the right language.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis|2> !mp3 | alvin_
[17:57] <Dr_Willis|2> alvin_:  thers some gstreamer packatges you need to install but i dont know their names.
[17:58] <alvin_> hey Dr_willis , what am i going to do?
[17:58] <wendico> sloucher: Under that setting, choose "Normal Releases" instead of Long Term Support if you want to upgrade to the latest (less stable) version of ubuntu
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras as well as w32codecs from the medibuntu repo
[17:59] <KM0201> xubuntu-restricted-extras, should more than cover mots multimedia stuff..
[17:59] <wendico> sloucher: Close your options and click "Check" for updates. On the top you will have and advice to fully upgrade your version of ubuntu
[17:59] <sw0rdfish> how do i install the files for my locale
[17:59] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: how will i do that? sorry for my beeing noobie
[17:59] <eyeris> I am new to ubuntu (coming from vanilla debian). gvim isn't showing the gui menu. How can I enable it?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: use software centre like you did all the other software you installed
[18:00] <KM0201> alvin_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras     watch in awe, then play mp3's
[18:00] <Dr_Willis|2> !locale
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: are you running xubuntu?
[18:00] <alvin_> yes,, xubuntu 11.04
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: then use xubuntu-restricted-extras as KM0201said
[18:01] <alvin_> ahh, by the way i'm running an install update, i'll do it later after the terminal finished that
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: indeed, only one app accessing the packages at any time
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> !away > Yuzu-Zzz
[18:02] <phox_> In general, does Ati or Nvidia have better support in Ubuntu? I'm thinking of buying a laptop.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> phox_: nvidia have been doing it a lot longer
[18:03] <Dr_Willis|2> I wuld also go with Nvidia
[18:03] <KM0201> nvidia, definitely
[18:03] <phox_> Dr_Willis and Actionparsnip: Ok, thx. GeForce 310M will probably be the graphics card.
[18:03] <Dr_Willis|2> Theres a few laptop review sites that rank the nvidia gpus out. I printed the list from their site. and got the best card i could for the ###
[18:03] <KM0201> phox_: but some newer nvidia devices have been problematic w/ Ubuntu.
[18:03] <alvin_> can i knw what distro are you using ActionPars/
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> phox_: I use a 6150 onboard POS and its great
[18:04] <phox_> Okey guys! Thanx, sounds like I definitely should go with nvidia =)
[18:05] <Dr_Willis|2> nvidia laptops can be harder to find
[18:05] <KM0201> unfortunately
[18:05] <KM0201> most of them seem to be intel or ati
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis|2: not with ion existing ;)
[18:05] <Dulak> a lot of the gaming laptops use ati, which is totally hit or miss for working well in linux
[18:05] <raymondjtoth2> !past
[18:05] <Parameter> !past
[18:05] <raymondjtoth2> !text
[18:06] <Parameter> !help
[18:06] <Dr_Willis|2> ive not heard a lot of good things about ION.. yet..
[18:06] <Parameter> !help
[18:06] <oCean> Parameter: stop that please
[18:06] <raymondjtoth2> how i do the past text in here for got how its by url
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Parameter: what is wrong?
[18:06] <Parameter> okay
[18:06] <Dr_Willis|2> My Gaming laptop has Nvidia :) and 2 hard drives..
[18:06] <Parameter> I was just trying the command
[18:06] <oCean> !msgthebot | Parameter raymondjtoth2
[18:06] <Parameter> nothing is wrong
[18:06] <Neilio_> Hi All, can any one spare a few mins to help out a newbie with an install problem with ubuntu server
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Neilio_: ask away
[18:07] <Hexxeh> Just put a new SSD in my Macbook Pro for Ubuntu, trying to boot from the Ubuntu CD just gives a black screen and the laptop ejects the disc automatically, any ideas?
[18:07] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[18:07] <raymondjtoth2> how i past text in here
[18:07] <oCean> !paste | raymondjtoth2
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> raymondjtoth2: single lines, jst go for it
[18:07] <rawfodog> whats up with my ubuntu guest not wanting to run the new windows manager in virtual box ?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: try the boot option: nomodeset
[18:08] <Neilio_> Thanks ActionParsnip, I keep getting an error when its installing kernel package linux-generic-pae....  Im afraid im from the school of windows point and click so having a steep learning curve.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> rawfodog: did you enable 3D accelleration?
[18:08] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: I'm not even getting that far, if I put the disc in, reboot I get a constant black screen and the disc gets ejected
[18:08] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: Not getting to a grub prompt or anything
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: did you MD5 test the ISO you burned?
[18:08] <amirshal> does anyone here uses Likewise?
[18:08] <rawfodog> yes
[18:08] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: yep and verified disc burn
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: cool, well I have zero experience of max as my sense outweighs my cash
[18:09] <Dr_Willis|2> rawfodog:  vbox  needs a newer verson to properly handle the 3d stuff needed by unity. You can install and use unity2d if you wanted
[18:09] <amirshal> I'm having a problem that i belive is likewise related
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: maybe others can advise
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Neilio_: what is the error you get?
[18:09] <rawfodog> oh sweet
[18:09] <rawfodog> Maybe I'll get the new vbox too
[18:09] <rawfodog> (think mine is older)
[18:10] <amirshal> i'm also using a firewall that does a integration with the AD
[18:10] <Dr_Willis|2> rawfodog:  at least thats what i have jheard
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> rawfodog: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/unity-2d-qt-now-available-in-ppa-for.html
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> i use unity2d, its sweet
[18:11] <rawfodog> nice. Thanks for the link :D
[18:11] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  and if you use compiz git  it works way better with unity2d than Unity itself :)
[18:11] <amirshal> but when i try to access the internet it doesnt work well becuase the firewell doesnt recognize the client
[18:11] <Neilio_> "an error was returned while trying to install the Kernel into the target system" Kernel Package 'Linux-generic-pae' Check /ver/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for details
[18:11] <amirshal> any ideas?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> coz_: i use openbox ;)
[18:12] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  ooo  well thats also cool :)  but I still like compiz :)
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> coz_: compiz can jump off a bridge
[18:12] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  ooo I am a little offended :)  although I know not everyone like it :)
[18:13] <frackle> compiss
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> true, cant please everyone
[18:13] <canthus13> Is anyone else having issues with Lucid updates?  I keep having 404 errors... My wife's laptop had issues with the kernel update...
[18:13] <KM0201> coz_: thats why choice is a beautiful thing... i prefer lxde
[18:14] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr | canthus13
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> canthus13: do they concern pam?
[18:14]  * ActionParsnip hopes his wife is called pam, that'd be classic
[18:14] <coz_> KM0201,  absolutely ,, and if it were not for my loyalties to compiz and cairo dock I probably would swtich  because I refuse to use gnome3
[18:14] <canthus13> That... and the kernel update keeps deselecting.
[18:14] <compdoc> FOUNDER Linus Torvalds has incremented the Linux version number to 3.0.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> canthus13: see the link above
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: source please..
[18:15] <canthus13> ..On this machine, anyway. on her machine, it locked up updates and I hada  helluva time getting it to boot.
[18:15] <canthus13> ActionParsnip: I see.. :)
[18:15] <osse> Where is the "cache" of background images stored?
[18:15] <Sidewinder1> canthus13, I'm gonna' wait a day or two 'til they get it fixed.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: found it :)
[18:15] <root____> hello
[18:15] <wendico> ActionParsnip: do ubuntu apps depend on the desktop enviroment? i have to run different app or different build of the app for a different desktop enviroment?
[18:15] <KM0201> wendico: very rarely
[18:16] <canthus13> Sidewinder1: I will now.  Wife's laptop kept dropping to the initramfs prompt.. I had to boot with a live CD and change the grub timeout (in an attempt to switch kernels), but rather than giving me the grub menu, it booted into recovery mode. go figure.
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wendico: they may depend on the library, kde uses Qt and Gnome uses Gtk. If an app is designed to use Qt and you don't have it then you willpull it in and bloat your OS some
[18:16] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, seems there's nothing all that new
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wendico: you can run Gnome apps in KDE and viceversa, and all the other desktops can run the other apps fine
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   cvw-a programaths vishwa CannedCorn raven lousygarua blamar bbartek root____ rauhfasertapete Kosava martiner5 Guybrush88 roasted debsan drMike fserb littlebearz haw
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   Darwin4Ever BlouBlou amorphous1 zatan thugzclub candrea jfbouchard coz_ gratnam11 t4k3sh1 dsathe MadViking alvin_ LibreMan stbain engled sloucher zul__ Russ fxhp ho
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   Paddy_NI bil21al scensis1 rfolco leitaox c2tarun mimor RobinJ johnzorn development rgr marve mattk pdtpatrick Ericounet [THC]AcidRain eiriksvin braiam anuvrat kvirc
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   frawgh Wally jebula Neo_Kipling mackep guntbert pLk christiankm-lap Mony Technoviking taowa dkim1987 Barridus nullvariable oski Ivan_The_Terribl carlito x1sc0 multi
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: its a big jump in versioning though
[18:17] <canthus13> ...? what was *THAT* all about?
[18:17] <wendico> is that SASL notice true?
[18:17] <LjL> spam
[18:17] <LjL> not true
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> canthus13: some idiot
[18:17] <wendico> ty
[18:17] <programaths> Hi and bye ;)
[18:17] <canthus13> thought so... can't imagine a freenode notice via spambot...
[18:17] <RobinJ> is what cvw-a says true or is it just a fcking spambot?
[18:18] <alvin_> hey guys, don't you know that ActionParsnip and Dr_Willis are the best in here!
[18:18] <LjL> RobinJ: read what i said above please
[18:18] <root____> i'm facing a bug with grub, just installed ubuntu 11 and it gives me out of range error, and startup manager can't find the grub configuration file, any thoughts?
[18:18] <RobinJ> ah ok xD
[18:18] <RobinJ> then why hasnt that creep been kicked yet?  Fine honey you deal with it.
[18:18] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, Is that legit.. about the SASL?
[18:18] <LjL> N O
[18:18] <RobinJ> *banned
[18:18] <LjL> it's SPAM
[18:18] <Paddy_NI> ah
[18:19] <Paddy_NI> annoying
[18:19] <BlouBlou> stop talking about it
[18:19] <frackle> SASL?
[18:19]  * Sidewinder1 Never started
[18:20] <Sidewinder1> Oops
[18:20] <HelloWorld321> Should I be worried if my ubuntu-box has been stuck for 10 minutes at  Update Manager > Applying changes > Running dpkg ?
[18:20] <wendico> why kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu have different "Restricted extras" packages if i want to test all enviroments, do i need to install all 3 restrictred extras packages?
[18:21] <root____> does anyone know how to change the grub resolution from the live cd?
[18:21] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr | HelloWorld321
[18:21] <LjL> HelloWorld321: maybe. can you open the terminal window for it (i don't remember if the update manager allows you to) and see what's going on?
[18:22] <christen> Why does ubuntu log off by itself?
[18:22] <Sidewinder1> LjL, I would imagine that the pamerror is wreaking havoc on all of the servers with folks trying to re-update etc. etc.
[18:23] <alvin_> Actionparsnip: is it normal that after runnning sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras is showing the EULA with blue background,, it's taking too long damn
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: yes, use tab and enter to accept it
[18:24] <wendico> christen: i've senn ubuntu to log off it self as a result of a grapic conflict, (especially when non rebooting after making changes in your graphics driver)
[18:24] <alvin_> what the hell, i'm waiting for it to finish by itself! XD
[18:25] <christen> wendico: so it's because of my graphics? Would it be because I set it so that there are different background wallpapers for different workspaces?
[18:25] <g3h0d> hmm
[18:25] <root____> i need a tip on this, the grub screen says "out of range"
[18:26] <wendico> christen: if your are messing with your graphics, ill give u a tip that helped me many times, if ur desktop enviroment gets freezed and u cant do nothing, you can easy reboot hitting Ctrl+Alt-F1 (console), log in (your user, intro, password, intro) then the command 'sudo reboot', password and enter. Im sure this can be very helpfull when learning lol
[18:26] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: what does the xubuntu-restricted
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> root____: running irc clients as root isn't smart
[18:27] <coz_> root____,  when you boot,, hold down left shift for grub menu,,, then hit  "e" keyboard key to edit the kernel boot stanza , put in  nomodeset  just before quiet splash   ,, see if that works
[18:27] <alvin_> -areas contain and what for?
[18:27] <xskydevilx> How to I play QuickTime videos (on Google Chrome let's say)?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: they contain nonfree codecs
[18:27] <christen> wendico: thanks
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: ive found w32codecs sorts that
[18:28] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: ah see, thats why they are resticted? will i be able to run my mp3's after installing that?
[18:28] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: How do I install it?
[18:29] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, Yes
[18:29] <root____> ok coz i-ll try that thanks
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: they arent open source
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: you will be able to play MP3 after the package installs
[18:30] <friskd> Is there anything i need to configure on my server so that it can be pinged?
[18:31] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, I tried to answer but people "have ears only for you". :-)
[18:31] <wendico> sorry i disconnected when asking this and i dont know the response, do i have to install all the restricted extra packages of kubuntu, ubuntu and xubuntu if i want to test all 3 enviroments?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: guess i'm special
[18:31] <phox_> friskd: If it has an internet connection then you should be able to ping it.
[18:31] <taowa> how do i change my nick
[18:31] <alvin_> WOW! all of you are such a good help! are you "dedicated" in this channel? meaning you are maintaining this as a permanent techsupport persons?
[18:31] <Sidewinder1> !volunteers | alvin_
[18:32] <friskd> phox_: so then how is it that my server : www.catalystforthought.org  the site loads.
[18:32] <friskd> but if i try to ping it it
[18:32] <phox_> taowa: Do you mean on IRC? Then "/nick newnickname".
[18:32] <friskd> i see it trying to get to the correct ip: <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:32] <friskd> but there is no response.
[18:33] <friskd> just timeouts
[18:33] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, We thoroughly enjoy assisting others in discovering the wonders of FOSS an Ubuntu...
[18:33] <g3h0d> hmm
[18:34] <phox_> friskd: I timed out when I tried to ping <IP_ADDRESS>, weird. I couldn't ping the name web adress either.
[18:34] <alvin_> ah, now i know, you are the goodwill hearted, yeah you're right, helping others is such a fulfilling deed
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> phox_: are you blockingicmp?
[18:34] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, It can be quite rewarding and more often than not, a challenge.
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: helps you learn the OS too
[18:35] <phox_> actionparsnip: I have absolutely no idea what that is, so probably no. I just wanted to help friskd to see if I could ping his website :P
[18:35] <friskd> phox_: but if you try to ping www.catalystforthought.org you see that its trying to go to <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[18:35] <friskd> and of course if you go to www.catalystforthought.org it loads....
[18:35] <_felix> hi, i'm getting this  http://pastebin.com/9PEjNpiA after upgrading to natty.  i googled all of the warnings and errors but i can't find anything to resolve it. anyone an idea?
[18:35] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, There is that! But that would be selfish... ;-)
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> phox_: ping uses the ICMP protocol, http requests use TCP. If you are blocking ICMP then ping will fail, even though the site appears as tCP is flowing as expected
[18:36] <alvin_> uhuh, can i ask you if how long since you've used linux?
[18:36] <phox_> friskd: Yes, the website itself works.. and see what actionparsnip just wrote.
[18:37] <phox_> alvin: how long since I used it? :P I acctually use it right now.
[18:37] <mkquist> anyone know the difference between ubuntu and mint for wireless?
[18:37] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, Since 2007, Gutsy Gibbon
[18:37] <alvin_> no not you phox_ XD.. it's for ActionPasrsnip and Sidewinder1
[18:38] <friskd> ActionParsnip: so do i need to add icmp to my iptables
[18:38] <phox_> alvin, it was a word play joke.. never mind. whatevs
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> friskd: i'd check what your rules currently do with icmp
[18:38] <canthus13> Sidewinder1: :)  She's pretty gung-ho about Linux. My wife would very likely kill me in my sleep if I put windows on her machine.
[18:39] <alvin_> wow pretty old XD, i'm new in linux because i hate MS.. too gready!
[18:39] <friskd> ActionParsnip: nothing at the moment...
[18:39] <wendico> if i mark for install xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop is marked for removal, how do i install both?
[18:39] <lacus> Anyone able to mount iPhone 4.2.6 on Natty
[18:39] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, One of the tricks is to first ONLY learn "what you need to know" to accomplish whatever... then continue with what interests you...
[18:39] <lacus> I get: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[18:40] <Sidewinder1> canthus13, Mine too! THe killing part, that is.
[18:40] <_felix> wendico: have you tried installing xfce4 packages instead of xubuntu-desktop?
[18:40] <Peanut> The new and improved libpam packages are already on the main Ubuntu archive server. Does anyone know how long it'll be before they hit the Dutch mirror?
[18:40] <wendico> no _felix, it is easy to identify those packages for a noob in synaptic or should i search online wich packages to install?
[18:41] <_felix> wendico: search for xfce4
[18:41] <wendico> _felix: ty
[18:41] <_felix> wendico: in synaptic
[18:41] <Sidewinder1> canthus13, Mine loves Win, :-( and cringes at the mention of ubuntu... Shame really
[18:41] <stbain> Sidewinder1, sounds like a .gov security clearance job "need to know basis" ;)
[18:42] <alvin_> uhuh, i have tested many distros before i sticked with xubuntu.. i'm only testing the multimedia, internet, desktop customization and some tweaks..
[18:42] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[18:42] <hilarie> Anyone here know the ins and outs of "grub rescue>"
[18:43] <alvin_> now playing "Lonely Nation by Switchfoot"  thanks to ActionParsnip and all of you!
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: I boot to live CD and reinstate grub
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: np :)
[18:43] <hilarie> How do I do that ActionParsnip?
[18:44] <hilarie> I am in a live CD now
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7    use from: 2).Using Ubuntu 9.10 livecd or higher
[18:44] <wendico> xfce4 look nice, but im not looking for a nice looking enviroment, is there a even faster desktop enviroment than xfce4 (nevermind if ugly)?
[18:44] <hilarie> I'll give that a shot, thank you ActionParsnip
[18:45] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: is that the dedicated grub partition?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: how do you mean?
[18:45] <alvin_> the restoration of grub
[18:46] <friskd> ActionParsnip: after i edit my iptables, what do i need to rebooot?
[18:46] <hilarie> How can I find out which /dev/sdaX/ I need?
[18:46] <friskd> or reload?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> friskd: just restart the iptables service as far as I know
[18:47] <bkfitz> anyone use screenlets on 11.04 gnome
[18:47] <friskd> ok
[18:47] <hilarie> ActionParsnip from messing around before I got onto irc, both my 81mb filesystem(bootloader I think) and the main ubuntu filesystem, are both mounted,
[18:47] <mkquist> what does mint use for wireless detection thats different from stock ubuntu?
[18:47] <bkfitz> i'm starting to wish I stayed with 10.10
[18:48] <hilarie> but how from there can I tell which is dev/sdaX?
[18:48] <Psydoll> anyone familiar with the start up disk creator on ubuntu?
[18:48] <mkquist> using ubuntu, but mint just detects the wireless...
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | Psydoll
[18:48] <bkfitz> Psydoll: yes
[18:48] <Psydoll> bkfitz i was smart enough not to go to natty
[18:48] <Psydoll> bkfitz: Can have you made a persistent live usb using it?
[18:48] <bkfitz> this Unity thing is terrible... so I switched to 'classic' which is apparently also installed and now i'm having issues
[18:49] <hilarie> Psydoli, just play with the slider, persistance is on by default
[18:49] <bkfitz> clearcalendar screenlet doesn't work, slower wifi connect, etc
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: report bugs to get them fixed
[18:49] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: i have another prblem, terminal can't install skype
[18:49] <Psydoll> hilarie, thank you i will im just worried incase i write to the wrong drive.
[18:49] <bkfitz> I created a 11.04 startup usb from iso and it boots to an option for live or install
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: greb the deb from skype's site
[18:50] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: where do i report the bugs
[18:50] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: i have to Dload it manually?
[18:50] <edbian> What is a good channel to ask about making dvd's using devede  ?
[18:50] <hilarie> Live would be persistant, if you enabled that, you can check by looking for a casper-rw file from another OS to make sure
[18:50] <gratnam11> my instalation failed
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: sure, why not
[18:50] <KM0201> gratnam11: why?
[18:51] <Sidewinder1> !bugs | bkfitz
[18:51] <gratnam11> i created a custom partion
[18:51] <alvin_> ok, thakns again :D
[18:51] <bkfitz> Can someone running 11.04 try gnome and the clearcalendar screenlet
[18:51] <gratnam11> i had 2 2g swap form different drives
[18:51] <kubanc> can someone look at this image and tell me what kind of errors are they: http://img402.imageshack.us/i/20110531194717.jpg/
[18:51] <gratnam11> one 500mb /boot
[18:51] <gratnam11> and 500mb /tmp
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: wget -O skype.deb http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu32; sudo dpkg -i ./skype.deb; rm ./skype.deb
[18:51] <Neilio_> ActionParsnip, I think I have found the problem... I just checked the MD5 on for the disk and its not right... Just writing the iso again now.  Thanks anyway.
[18:51] <KM0201> gratnam11: wtf?
[18:51] <KM0201> gratnam11: no need to reinvent the wheel, you don't need all that stuff
[18:51] <gratnam11> and i had a 1.5 or raid mounted to /
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: ok ignore that
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Neilio_: remember to always md5
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[18:52] <gratnam11> how do i do it
[18:52] <gratnam11> i am installing the server
[18:52] <gratnam11> edition
[18:52] <Neilio_> Thanks :)
[18:52] <HelloWorld321> NO ! ! !
[18:52] <Psydoll> to make a persistent live usb i need the iso and since im doing it from linux ubuntu just use the start up disk creator?
[18:52] <HelloWorld321> YES ! ! !
[18:52] <gratnam11> KM0201
[18:52] <gratnam11> can you help
[18:52] <Sidewinder1> !enter > gratnam11
[18:52] <KM0201> sorry, nope.
[18:53] <gratnam11> whats the best way to do this
[18:53] <edbian> I'm using devede to burn DVD's  I have a 720p TV and HD colorstream connection.  devede won't let me create a file that is 1280 x 720  why is this?
[18:53] <KM0201> gratnam11: best way to do it is not reinvent the wheel.
[18:53] <hilarie> Psydoll just open it up man, persistance is on by default
[18:53] <Psydoll> hilarie: thanks!
[18:53] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: wait, its included in USC, only the source is not included in the cache :D
[18:53] <gratnam11> okey
[18:53] <gratnam11> i need a raid
[18:54] <KM0201> alvin_: the version in the repos is old... iirc.. i'm not sure they keep up w/ it anymore (i always use the .deb file from skype)
[18:54] <gratnam11> can this be done with out a manual partion
[18:54] <comm_> Is there a way I can download all of my system's current packages that I have added on (say like vlc) so that I go to an apt-get /my/own/repository if I didn't have internet access
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: I've always used the skype site personally, both are fine
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> !clone | comm_
[18:55] <alvin_> i have read that the version for linux is already frozen to its last version coz skype has been bought by MS! :(
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> comm_: you can use the my-packages file to tell apt-get to only download the debs for the packages in the file
[18:55] <KM0201> alvin_: i'd say thats pretty likely.
[18:55] <tensorpudding> microsoft stated that they would continue to support non-windows versions
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: it'll probably be supported on Linux
[18:55] <KM0201> tensorpudding: lol, and you believe that?
[18:56] <mk85> anyone able to provide some guidance on flashing the bios on HP dv6000
[18:56] <KM0201> hopefully this spurs a quality, open source alternative to skype.. most the ones available now suck.
[18:56] <tensorpudding> well, they're surely going to continue the ones for iOS and Android
[18:56] <mk85> tried a couple methods in the forums
[18:56] <mk85> and not working
[18:56] <IdleOne> KM0201: it makes sense for microsoft to continue supporting skype...why lose the potential revenue by not supporting them? anyway this is off topic
[18:56] <KM0201> mk85: why do you want to flash the bios.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: exactl, more users
[18:56] <mk85> fan goes crazy all the time and cpu runs hot
[18:56] <KM0201> i dunno... MS has never been that smart, but youre right, off topic.
[18:57] <mk85> this supposedly fixes it
[18:57] <tensorpudding> there are reports that skype for windows is now trying to install crapware
[18:57] <Sidewinder1> I don't believe it!
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> mk85: you may need to use a dos boot cd
[18:57] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[18:57] <alvin_> hahaha damn MS.. better stay away from MS.. XD whats that crapware?
[18:58] <IdleOne> !windows | alvin_
[18:58] <comm_> ActionParsnip, but that requires Internet access... basically I want to be able to have all my packages to be able to install without having to go online.
[18:59] <comm_> I mean obviously I have to go online to get them the first time. But the idea is this. I go get all the packages I like and add them on top of a default ubuntu installation. I put ubuntu on a new computer, I can install all my packages without internet access
[18:59] <bretzel> re-hi ... well, about the 13-15% cpu in idle, I am discovering Ubuntu Natty 's Unity interface and obviously the latest builds of linux tools provided by (ubuntu) - Then I really like it! usable, fun to discover. seems a bit unstable ( unity + nvidia 270.x.x / with Compiz crashed once within the last hour. dunno which part caused it.). for now I don't feel the need to wipe it ... :-)
[19:00] <cjae> update servers down?
[19:00] <kubanc> is anyone familiar with this errors: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
[19:00] <sipior> kubanc: some context would be useful
[19:01] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr > cjae
[19:01] <kubanc> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615456/
[19:02] <Psydoll> I want to make sure that im writing to the correct usb drive whats the easiesst way to check that?
[19:02] <cjae> Sidewinder1: yes but there are ohter updates there as well.
[19:03] <sipior> kubanc: which version of ubuntu?
[19:03] <rpisharody> Psydoll, When you plugin your USB Drive, it will show up in fdisk -l. Just make sure you are writing to the same mountpoint
[19:03] <sipior> kubanc: this thread may be useful: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/550559
[19:03] <Psydoll> ty
[19:04] <kubanc> sipior, 10.10. I had similiar simptoms in windows 7, but i could not get any log, so i installed a better OS, ubuntu ;), and now i have these logs
[19:04] <tham> How can I connect to internet using my dongle in LXDE?
[19:04] <Sidewinder1> cjae, The servers may be somewhat over loaded with folks trying to re-update due to the pamerror...
[19:04] <DynamicFail> So I have my system setup with the packages that I like and the versions that I like. I would like to download all non standard ubuntu packages off my system into a location that I could later install them from on a new computer without internet acess. Anyway to do this?
[19:04] <alvin_> my problem with skype here in linux is that skype can't detect or utilize the built-in mic . What can you suggest about that ActionParsnip?
[19:04] <Psydoll> rpisharody: that fdisk -l command does not work on the command line
[19:04] <rpisharody> Psydoll, you might have to run it with sudo. Give elevated permissions
[19:05] <Sidewinder1> Psydoll, Did you try sudo fdisk....
[19:05] <Psydoll> no?
[19:05] <Psydoll> whats the command please?
[19:05] <Psydoll> im weak on the command line
[19:05] <rpisharody> sudo fdisk -l
[19:05] <Sean93> i need to copy my usb drive that has 3 partitions on it, one is encrypted. i need to remove everything on the drive for a few hours but then after that i want it back to normal
[19:05] <_felix> can anybody help me with: http://pastebin.com/9PEjNpiA
[19:06] <boba> my ubuntu live cd does not recognize the existing partition table
[19:06] <tham> I'm using Lubuntu. How can I connect to mobile broadband? Please help.
[19:06] <_felix> Sean93: you could try dd
[19:06] <alvin_> anyone knows how to enable the builtin mic to be detected by skype?
[19:06] <Psydoll> rpisharody: thanks that works now the problem is that i have two usb sticks connected and i need them both connected because im booted from one and im making another bootable on the other...
[19:06] <rpisharody> Sean93: Hmm... What I can think of is to image the entire USB Drive with the dd tool. Save the image. Copy it back after you are done.
[19:06] <pooky> I'm having issues with the secure servers giving me 404's when trying to download updates.
[19:06] <plum> boba: have you tried using testdisk? might need to recover your partitions
[19:07] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr > pooky
[19:07] <boba> plum: is it available in the live cd
[19:07] <pooky> Sidewinder1, thx
[19:07] <rpisharody> Psydoll: You can remove the USB which you want to make bootable and issue the command. You can compare the outputs and determine which is which
[19:07] <plum> boba: it is not found there, no, but you can find the binary here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[19:07] <boba> plum: is it in hriens
[19:07] <boba> plum: is it in hirens
[19:07] <plum> boba: it needs to be run from terminal
[19:08] <plum> not sure what you mean by hirens
[19:08] <Sidewinder1> pooky, Welks.
[19:08] <alvin_> how about you mr. Sidewinder1?
[19:08] <roger21> to have something done daily systeme wide (not user wide) i just put the script /etc/cron.daily or there is something else ? and when is it run axactly ?
[19:08] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, What did I do wrong now? ;-)
[19:09] <boba> plum: its only 64 bit for linux
[19:09] <alvin_> skype ccan't detect the builtin mic..
[19:09] <_felix> roger21: 00:00 i think
[19:09] <Sean93> rpisharody, _felix, dd sounds good, exact command??
[19:09] <qin> roger21: sudo crontab -e
[19:09] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, I don't use skype or a mic...Sorry...
[19:09] <boba> plum: sorry my fault
[19:10] <alvin_> :(
[19:10] <DynamicFail> !clone
[19:10] <plum> boba: it works fine on my 32 bit ubuntu install, did you try it out?
[19:10] <rpisharody> Sean93: dd if=/dev/usb of=imagefile(where /dev/usb is your USB Drive)
[19:10] <DynamicFail> !automate
[19:11] <Sidewinder1> First place that I would look, alvin_ would be in the hardware drivers section.
[19:12] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, If I wanted to be able to install VLC on a new computer without going online, and I had the version of vlc I liked on this computer... how would I do it
[19:12] <sudokill> does the ubuntu minimal install allow u to select what packages r installed? or is it the same as standard but online?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: just hacking out some bash, gimme a sec :)
[19:12] <HarrisonF> I just upgraded to 10.04 and now when I launch gnome-terminal, it hangs before giving me a prompt -- with strace it shows it stuck in a poll loop of some sort getting EAGAIN reading a socket
[19:12] <oCean> !offline | DynamicFail
[19:12] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, If the mic works in other applications; then in Skype configuration/preferences.
[19:12] <DynamicFail> lol thanks ActionParsnip
[19:15] <osse> Where is the "cache" of background images stored? I.e. the list of the files which should be shown in the dialog box. I want to remove a whole bunch. I accidentally draged hundreds of files into it
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: sudo apt-get -y install aptitude; aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages; sudo apt-get --download-only --reinstall  install $(grep vlc file.txt)
[19:16] <DynamicFail> !APTonCD
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: cheeky stuff :)
[19:16] <Shirakawasuna> Does anyone here know of/know a solution to an issue w/ guake where every tab but the first is non-transparent (opaque)?  I'm having trouble finding anything pre-2009 and their solution was also to reinstall, which I've tried.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: sorry, change   grep vlc file.txt)   to  grep vlc my-packages)
[19:17] <alvin_> Sidewinder1: it's always been my problem in linux, skype can't detect the mic.. i've searched for all remedy but still ain't work
[19:17] <sparr> osse: background of what?
[19:17] <kubanc> sipior, changing from AHCI to IDE looks like this was the problem
[19:18] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, can you explain what your script does exactly before I try it? :)
[19:18] <Shirakawasuna> I of course suspect unity, but I actually like unity a lot and would prefer a workaround (or recommendation for another quake terminal.  I've tried tilda (no tabs?) and yakuake (massive kde dependencies))
[19:18] <DynamicFail> !offline
[19:18] <osse> sparr, sorry. I mean wallpapers. The list of wallpapers to choose from in Appearances is too long. I think the list of files to show there is stored somewhere.
[19:19] <Pici> Shirakawasuna: guake perhaps?
[19:19] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: There's something called "yeahconsole"
[19:19] <prabhu> hi i want to know how to remove the menu on desktop in ubuntu latest version
[19:19] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, Then it sounds like a Skype issue; perhaps direct the problem directly to "them"; the more folks that express problems might make "them" realizr where the future of computing lies: FOSS...
[19:19] <osse> sparr, I checked ~/.cache/wallpaper but that is a cache of the wallpapers themselves. The ones that have been used recently.
[19:19] <theadmin> Pici: (s)he's having trouble with guake
[19:19] <Sidewinder1> realize, too
[19:19] <Pici> theadmin: oops, I missed that.
[19:20] <alvin_> ok,, thank you so much
[19:20] <Shirakawasuna> ah, it's this right here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guake/+bug/592982
[19:20] <Shirakawasuna> Pici: guake is the app with the bug :)
[19:20] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: I'll check it out
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: sure, the first half makes a file with ALL the packages you have installed, the 2nd part finds all the occurrences of 'vlc' in the file and downloads the deb for that package from your repos
[19:20] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, No problem; just wish we could've found THE solution...
[19:21] <K-4U> Could somebody help me with cups and samba?
[19:21] <sparr> osse: are they listed by filename? try "locate somedistinctfilename" from a command line
[19:22] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: I just made a nice script for it, good for reinstalls as you can use local data rather than pounding the web (especially with multiple systems)
[19:22] <Shirakawasuna> I don't think yeahconsole can do tabs, theadmin
[19:23] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Seems that not, yeah
[19:23] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, where does it download it to
[19:23] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Maybe try to get the latest guake and build from source?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:24] <boba> plum: the thing is already formatted my previous ubuntu partition and now i cannot boot into an operating system, and tried to run the testdisk from the ubuntu live cd
[19:24] <oCean> osse: probably under ~/.thumbnails
[19:24] <osse> sparr, no results. Which was a good thing. If I had found them it would have meant that Ubuntu makes a copy of every single wallpaper you drag into background properties
[19:24] <DynamicFail> lol ActionParsnip does that folder already have everything I need?
[19:24] <boba> plum: i formatted it using hirens
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: how do you mean?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: that is the folder where updates go when you install them
[19:25] <plum> boba: so you are trying to recover your data?
[19:25] <boba> plum: i am trying to install a newer ubuntu
[19:25] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, oh
[19:25] <boba> plum: on the formatted previous ubuntu partion
[19:26] <osse> oCean, not there either.
[19:26] <plum> boba: gotcha, so the issue you are having is ubuntu is not seeing that partition. is that correct?
[19:26] <boba> plum: but i do not want to lose the windows partition and the data partition which are there but the ubuntu live cd does not see them
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: its ood to run:  sudo apt-get clean   occasionally to clear that cache out
[19:27] <oCean> osse: they should be. rendered thumbnails for any (most?) applications (such as an imageviewer or appearances dialogue) go there in 'normal' subdir
[19:27] <plum> boba: so you didn't touch the windows partition when you formatted, correct? if so, testdisk should be able to detect the Windows OS on there
[19:27] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: yeah, I should look into that.  I just started trying out ubuntu, so what's the best way to go about doing that properly (e.g. on archlinux I would edit a build file and let the package manager do the rest, it would all work perfectly and whenever a newer version than the one I built was released, it would auto-update)
[19:27] <osse> I can of course rephrase my question: I accidentally added too many pictures to the Backgrounds tab in Appearance Preferences. How can I remove many of them without having to select them and click Remove on by one?
[19:27] <Sidewinder1> boba, Did you try Gparted on the liveCD to see the partitions?
[19:27] <oCean> osse: I just tried, and the thumbnails appear in ~/.thumbnails/normal
[19:27] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Arch is awesome, why switch away from it? :D
[19:27] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: is there a way to let the package manager handle it in ubuntu?
[19:27] <oCean> osse: the actual background images are in /usr/share/backgrounds
[19:28] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Well, you could run "apt-get source guake", but I can't really help more
[19:28] <syockit> how do I scroll console programs like less, man, or vim using the scrollbar on gnome terminal?
[19:28] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: I'm tired of trying to get simple thing to work... and I also want ubuntu (desktop-centric) patches.  I'm just trying ubuntu out and will be comparing it to ayatana stuff on arch :)
[19:28] <silver_hook> Hullo.
[19:28] <alvin_> can i install the ubuntu desktop here in xubuntu?
[19:28] <theadmin> Hello, silver_hook
[19:28] <boba> Sidewinder1: i did not, i tried test disk on the live cd but did not detect any other media except for the live cd
[19:28] <Shirakawasuna> it seems like the ayatana arch project is missing a few packages, e.g. a firefox that handles global appmenus
[19:29] <theadmin> alvin_: Yep, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:29] <silver_hook> My GF is just getting a new laptop and we'll install Ubuntu on it.
[19:29] <osse> oCean, in ~/.thumbnails/normal there are over 8000 files on my system :O Yes I know where all the wallpapers are on disk, and I don't want to remove them. I only want to remove them from the list of backgrounds shown in Appearance Preferences
[19:29] <silver_hook> 32bit or 64bit and why?
[19:29] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Mind switching to PM? It's offtopic here.
[19:29] <theadmin> silver_hook: Well, depends on the laptop, naturally
[19:29] <alvin_> how can i enable it after installation?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: what is the spec of the system?
[19:29] <everybodylies> i installed ubuntu and now i reallised that i cant play league of legends here damnit xD
[19:30] <theadmin> alvin_: Choose it on the login screen, mostly
[19:30] <Shirakawasuna> no worries, I won't bother you about arch ;)
[19:30] <armaan> cn anybody tell me ,,where cn i find the source code of remastersys
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> everybodylies: is it not in the appdb?
[19:30] <Sidewinder1> boba, If it boots to liveCD, try opening Gparted, it may see the partitions that you're looking for. From there you can reformat, shrink, etc.
[19:30] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: lol it's not bothering me at all, I'd love to talk about it
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> armaan: its on the repos
[19:30] <everybodylies> id just doenst work even with wine
[19:30] <everybodylies> Q_Q
[19:30] <oCean> osse: well, that list is generated by looking in the /usr/share/backgrounds directory. As long as the images are there, they will appear in the list. So if you don't move them out of that directory, they will be in the list of available images
[19:30] <armaan> which one
[19:31] <silver_hook> It's an HP Probook 4320s: http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/2750291329/tech/prenosnik-hp-probook-4320s-24-ghz-xn571ea#tech
[19:31] <alvin_> how about the default looks of ubuntu? will it be the same 100%?
[19:31] <mdvs> ^^
[19:31] <theadmin> alvin_: Mostly. Except you'll have those apps of your other desktop present too
[19:31] <silver_hook> So, yes, it's an i5 dual-core 64bit CPU with 4 GiB of ram and ATI Radeon graphics.
[19:32] <osse> oCean, but I have added many images to that list by dragging and ropping from ~/Pictures/Wallpapers. And I can click select them in Appearance Preferences and click remove, and this will not delete the file, only remove it from the list
[19:32] <boba> Sidewinder1: the thing is i can format them using the hiren's cd, but i cannot see them during the installation of  ubuntu
[19:32] <silver_hook> Sorry, it's *exactly* this one: http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/2750334428/tech/prenosnik-hp-probook-4320s-266-ghz-xn869ea#tech
[19:32] <silver_hook> (yes, OpenSuse preinstalled)
[19:32] <armaan> cn anybody tell me ,,where cn i find the source code of remastersys
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> everybodylies: could run it in a virtualbox if you use it
[19:32] <alvin_> ok, how about gnome desktop? can it be installed also?
[19:32] <Dommi> it is installed
[19:32] <oCean> osse: ah wait - now I understand :) Let me see..
[19:32] <osse> oCean, so somewhere there must be an xml or something that gives the list of files to show.
[19:32] <Dommi> you can change your gui in the log on screen
[19:32] <Dommi> alvin
[19:32] <Sidewinder1> boba: sorry, I know nothing about Hirens..
[19:32] <oCean> osse: something like that, indeed
[19:33] <alvin_> it has only two option, xfce and xubuntu session
[19:33] <boba> Sidewinder1: the thing is even i format them with gparted if they are not seen during the installation is of no use
[19:33] <osse> I could of course grep all files under various dot-directories.
[19:33] <afeijo> hi all
[19:33] <compdoc> where does postfix on ubuntu store the email address you want root's mail sent to?
[19:33] <Sidewinder1> boba, If the install does not "see" them are you sure that they're formatted ext3 or ext4?
[19:33] <oCean> osse: is it /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/ubuntu-wallpapers.xml ?
[19:34] <afeijo> I have a second harddrive in my ubuntu 11 server, I created a partition in it, now I'm trying to mount it. But I guess I need to format it first as ext4?
[19:34] <boba> Sidewinder1: gparted does not recognize them either
[19:34] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, If i understand you correctly... all I need to do is this: Step 1: Copy all files from /home/cache/apt/archives directory into /my/backup/location. Then when I get a new install of ubuntu running I simply copy all the files over to the folder and I'm set
[19:35] <oCean> osse: hmm, that doesn't seem to hold all wallpapers
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: yes, run:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:35] <alvin_> i'm quite concerned on my desktop looks to engage my friends to use linux.
[19:35] <woodt> boba: Sounds as if the partition table has been erased or is corrupt.
[19:35] <silver_hook> theadmin, ActionParsnip: Soooo, is there a reason why Ubuntu suggests i386 (i.e. 32bit) instead of 64bit?
[19:35] <osse> oCean, hooray! It's ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml
[19:35] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, I run sudo dpkg -i *.deb as step 3 to install all the repos I just copied?
[19:35] <Sidewinder1> boba, Then, I'm afraid your problem is beyond my expertise, if one could call it that....Sorry. :-(
[19:36] <oCean> osse: aha! Glad you found it :)
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: many 3rd party hardwrae  makers only make 32bit drivers
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: it installs the debs, not the repos
[19:36] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, ... eh what does that mean :/
[19:37] <osse> oCean, I'm sorry if I led you onto a wrong track earlier. It was hard to explain what I acually wanted :P
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: the files you have are debs, which can be installed on your OS,they are not repos
[19:37] <alvin_> theadmin: it says that xfce will be removed, how can i install ubuntu-desktop without removing xfce?
[19:37] <theadmin> silver_hook: A more popular architecture.
[19:37] <oCean> osse: no problem, good to hear it is solved
[19:37] <Sidewinder1> boba, You may wish to re-express your problem to ActionParsnip Pici or someone more knowledgeable than I..
[19:37] <theadmin> alvin_: Okay, that's weird, I think I'd report that as a bug
[19:38] <MrRT> Hello, I just brought life back to a machine with less then 512mb RAM. Is there any way I can get more juice out of this, is for nothing more then a toy computer...
[19:38] <boba> Sidewinder1: thanks
[19:38] <theadmin> MrRT: Openbox.
[19:38] <alvin_> he following packages will be REMOVED  libsdl1.2debian-alsa xfce4-notifyd xubuntu-desktop
[19:38] <MrRT> VM ware ???
[19:38] <boba> ActionParsnip: my ubuntu live cd does not recognize the partitions on my hard disk, i can see them with the acronis parition manager
[19:39] <silver_hook> theadmin, ActionParsnip: What's on such specs the downside of running 32bit then?
[19:39] <boba> ActionParsnip: thanks in advance
[19:39] <osse> oCean, actually it turned out to be as simple as just deleting the whole file. It gets automatically regenerated from the default file when I open Appearance Prefs again
[19:39] <MrRT> theadmin: is that Virtual box?
[19:39] <theadmin> alvin_: Well, that's perfectly okay to me. The GNOME notification daemon replaces the XFCE one, not sure what the library is, and xubuntu-desktop is a useless metapackage.
[19:39] <theadmin> MrRT: Nah, it's a desktop envioronment. A really lightweight one
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: 3Gb RAM maximum (PAE will allow 12Gb RAM but each process will be restricted to 3Gb RAM maxximum)
[19:39] <MrRT> Ok
[19:39] <oCean> osse: nice
[19:39] <MrRT> cool thanks
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: missing instructions which are in 64bit CPUs
[19:40] <Striking7> Hey everyone. I'm trying to get my network working under e17
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: I suggest you research what 64bit really is
[19:40] <Dulak> it's not useless, it's handy to turn a server install into a workstation install.
[19:40] <Striking7> I shut down the network-manager service
[19:40] <osse> It even automatically added the wallpaper I'm currently using! Nice
[19:40] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip: Right! That's a bummer.
[19:40] <Striking7> then ran iwconfig wlan0 "essid" key s:mykey
[19:40] <cfedde> Can i tell if hyperthreading is turned on for some cpu via say dmidecode?
[19:40] <Striking7> The problem is iwconfig tells me that the s:mykey is an invalid argument
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: for casual browsing, chatting, emailing then 32bit is fine
[19:41] <alt_nick> Hello. Has anyone else encountered NPEs in sun-java6's FileChannelImpl? http://leucocyte.org/~alter/fc-npe/exceptions.txt
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: if you intend to use CPU intensive stuff like SQL, video / audio encoding then 64bit helps a lot
[19:41] <Striking7> How do I get iwconfig to handle my key correctly? It's wpa2
[19:41] <woodt> cfedde:  Check /proc/cpuinfo.  If you see too many cores, hyperthreading is on.  For example, my quad core shows a total of 8 with HT on.
[19:42] <MrRT> theadmin: I wanted to add I am running Ubuntu on it now... All I can say is WOW, if I can get this faster "Way cool"
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: if your providers all provide 64bit support for your hardware then 64bit is no bad thing
[19:42] <alvin_> theadmin: if i would install ubuntu-desktop or gnome and it will remove xfce, will i be able to reinstall xfce desktop?
[19:42] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip, theadmin: OK, so it's the same as I remember :P Any examples of 3rd party software I should care about not having 64bit packages?
[19:42] <Sidewinder1> boba, Sometimes one must wait, 'til he's finished helpin' someone else.
[19:42]  * silver_hook runs Gentoo on his T400s
[19:42] <cfedde> woodt: thanks,
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: some printer manufacturers only do 32bit
[19:43] <boba> Sidewinder1: ok :)
[19:44] <markb__> ##channel
[19:44] <Sidewinder1> Shower time! It is, afterall, the fifth Tuesday in the month...Good luck all!
[19:44] <edbian> I have a video file (.avi) that is currently 1290 Kbits/sec.  I want to burn it to a DVD.  Should I choose 5000 Kbits/sec like devede defaults to?
[19:47] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip, theadmin: Adobe Flash has a  64bit plugin now? I don't use it on my box.
[19:48] <cfedde> quit
[19:48] <sparr> How can I add "Guest Session" as an option when my screen is locked, so that other people can use my computer when I'm afk?
[19:48] <BlouBlou> cfedde: /quit ?
[19:48] <Ivan_The_Terribl> Hi all. Are there any ways to alter the common gtk2 file selector, specifically the size of image thumbnails? I run opera and gtk2 file selector doesn't allow to change size of thumbnails - thumbs are very small and it's very hard to upload, for instance, a pic. I can switch opera file selector to qt, but qt works very slow on my system
[19:49] <arashrz> hi i have a question
[19:49] <arashrz> anyone can help me ?
[19:49] <theadmin> arashrz: Not until you ask it.
[19:49] <crakdmirror> arashrz: ask your question, then people can see
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: yes there is a ppa for it, there is also a ppa for 64bit java ;)
[19:49] <arashrz> i installed nvidia driver in one of my pc's
[19:49] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip: Sweet, thanks :]
[19:50] <arashrz> now i want to move installation file to another pc
[19:50] <arashrz> where is it ?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> arashrz: /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:52] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, I was told that dpkg has something that gives you all selected packages, iirc and also a tool to select them again. that would still break the manually/automatically installed status though. y> and thereby prevent autoremoval of unneeded packages
[19:53] <Peanut> So after installing 11.04, I get a popup saying that my hardware is not good for Unity. What it should probably say instead is that Ubuntu hasn't gotten around to installing my Nvidia drivers yet...
[19:53] <sudokill> same thing
[19:54] <dddd> \
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: not sure there dude
[19:55] <sparr> Peanut: well, more generically but more accurately, it should say that your video driver isn't good for unity
[19:55] <ojay> i cannot join #PHP channel so i will ask from here :P. if i have array[$i] <-- how i can add value inside of [] like array[$i+1] <-- that doesn't work
[19:55] <Pici> ojay: you need to register before you can join there.
[19:55] <Pici> !register | ojay
[19:57] <silver_hook> Thanks guys. Already downloading the amd64 ISO via torrent ;)
[19:57] <andro_lsv> so computer froze after it went to sleep, so I did a Ctrl + Alt + F1 to get a terminal, then I entered ' sudo service gdm restart '.  after login back in a message asked me if a want to delete sometjing, I clicked yes by mistake and now I don't have the button with the option to logout or restart or shutdown options in the panel.  what to do to fix this?
[19:57] <PHP_question>  /nick ojay
[19:57] <sudokill> andro_lsv, add the panel icon
[19:57] <sudokill> andro_lsv, right click the panle and add the icon that u deleted
[19:57] <Dulak> andro_lsv: right-click the panel and choose 'add to panel'
[19:58] <Ontolog> I want to install the maven2 package, which is a set of Java libraries and programs. However it requires gcj be installed. I actually have sun-java6-jdk installed. How can I tell maven2 that this gcj requirement is satisfied by the sun-java6-jdk package?
[19:58] <dingurt> andro_lsv:  add the Indicator applet
[19:58] <Hexxeh> getting black screen booting ubuntu 11.04 on macbook pro 5.5, tried nomodeset, not helping, anything else i can try?
[19:58] <Peanut> Hexxeh: completely black, or a blinking cursor at least?
[19:59] <arashrz> another q, why any version of linux hangs my pc after sometime ? but windows dont
[19:59] <Hexxeh> Peanut: completely black, i get some super quick kernel log scrolling first, i think it dies when trying to mount the root maybe?
[19:59] <Peanut> Hexxeh: ok, then you have another problem than I am having, sorry :-)
[20:00] <afeijo> I have a second harddrive in my ubuntu 11 server, I created a partition in it, now I'm trying to mount it. But I guess I need to format it first as ext4?
[20:00] <sudokill> afejio yes
[20:00] <andro_lsv> I tried that but the same button is not there.  there are separate applets to logout, shutdown, lock the computer..  any more ideas?
[20:00] <skrlec> how do i insall additional drivers for ubuntu 10.10
[20:01] <sudokill> choose "install additional drivers"
[20:01] <Peanut> I have just completed my install of 11.04 on a new machine, using USB+network. Worked great, but if I now reboot the system, it will not come up unless the USB stick is inserted. Seems to be some drive-renumbering issue, shouldn't GUIDs prevent that? How do I fix my grub to boot on its own?
[20:01] <silver_hook> If I install i386 Ubuntu now, can I (or rather my GF) just upgrade it to the amd64 version later on without any hassle?
[20:01] <sudokill> andro_lsv, there is a "shutdown" panel icon and another one
[20:01] <skrlec> sudokill,could you please repeat, i got disconnected
[20:01] <arobaz> hi
[20:01] <sparr> Peanut: if you aren't seeing the grub menu at all then the problem is that your BIOS isn't booting from the right drive. has nothing to do with GUIDs
[20:01] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[20:02] <xangua> silver_hook: no
[20:02] <sudokill> skrlec, what drivers do u want to install
[20:02] <arobaz> is there any french ubuntu channel plz?
[20:02] <arobaz> I need some help
[20:02] <xangua> silver_hook: if you cant 32 bit, install 32 bit, want 64, intstall 64
[20:02] <sudokill> u seem to speak nelgish
[20:02] <Peanut> sparr: good point, let me see if I can fix that.
[20:02] <Pici> !fr | arobaz
[20:02] <wilhart> oK HAS this nvidia bug twinview flickering stuff been solved yet?!?!
[20:02] <SpaceBass> I've got a new pci-e (short) card that Ive plugged into a pci express (long) port ? dmesg doesn't show a thing. Even if the drivers aren't present, is there a way to see if the hardware is recognized?
[20:03] <andro_lsv> yes, there is different apps to do different things but not like the original that had all the options
[20:03] <sudokill> SpaceBass, is it pcie x1 in a x16 slot?
[20:03] <sw0rdfish> anyone got experience with ajaxplorer?
[20:03] <Hexxeh> what's different about the +mac images here? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[20:03] <skrlec> i need drivers for  RaLink RT3090 Wireless and Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family). i've got the drivers for ralink from their website, but it a .bin file and there's no howto installation guide
[20:03] <sudokill> andro_lsv, i think its called indicator
[20:03] <theadmin> skrlec: I think you can just run that file.
[20:03] <sudokill> andro_lsv, the shutdown one is different its a red icon
[20:04] <skrlec> theadmin, form terminal with command ./
[20:04] <SpaceBass> sudokill, thats where I get confused ? the box on the card says pci express and the mobo says pci express
[20:04] <sudokill> skrlec, ah people had problems installing the ralink there was a link somewhere google it
[20:04] <wilhart> no?? anyone got flickering with nvidia?!
[20:04] <dingurt> andro_lsv:  did you put the Indicator applet up on the panel?
[20:04] <theadmin> skrlec: Yeah, basically. chmod +x blah.bin && ./blah.bin
[20:04] <wilhart> blah i'll do rm -rf \
[20:04] <sudokill> SpaceBass, a pcie x1 card will work in a x16 slot
[20:04] <SpaceBass> sudokill, the slow on the mobo is clearly longer and the card only has two short connectors
[20:04] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, take a look at this: $ sudo apt-get install dpkg-repack fakeroot
[20:04] <DynamicFail> $ mkdir ~/dpkg-repack; cd ~/dpkg-repack
[20:04] <DynamicFail> $ fakeroot -u dpkg-repack `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | cut -f1`
[20:04] <dingurt> wilhart:  you don't have a hair on your ass
[20:04] <fester77> im usually installing program thru softwaremanagment .... this time I need to locate where the actual program was installed .... anyone knows where they go?
[20:04] <sudokill> SpaceBass, yea its fine
[20:04] <SpaceBass> sudokill, does this look like pscie x1 http://www.startech.com/product/PEXESATA2-2-Port-PCI-Express-eSATA-Controller-Card
[20:05] <wilhart> dingurt: annoying hdmi tv flickers but monitor does ont i'lve tried everythign
[20:05] <sudokill> SpaceBass, yea it is x1
[20:05] <Peanut> This is using an Intel Storage raid, by the way. First device to boot is listed as the mirror-volume that I installed it on. Yet booting doesn't work unless the USB stick is there as well.
[20:05] <sudokill> SpaceBass, it will fit in any pcie slot
[20:05] <andro_lsv> sudokill:  thanks I'll try it when I get to the pc.  dingurt thanks
[20:05] <sudokill> np
[20:05] <SpaceBass> sudokill, great, I've got it in the slot but the OS doesn't seem to recognize it
[20:05] <skrlec> theadmin, bash: ./rt2860.bin: cannot execute binary file
[20:06] <xangua> fester77: the software center says where you can find them in the menu
[20:06] <dingurt> skrlec:  you have to set the executable bit
[20:06] <sudokill> SpaceBass, idk why. its not the connection not sure if u need drivers or not
[20:06] <sudokill> SpaceBass, ive never used a seprate sata card
[20:06] <skrlec> dingurt, i already did chmod +x if you are referring to this command
[20:07] <SpaceBass> sudokill, its not my preference, but apparently the onboard esata port doesn't recognize port multipliers? trying to use a drobo with linux is proving to be miserable
[20:07] <SpaceBass> sudokill, is there a command to enumerate pci connections?
[20:07] <_ohm> Compiling program from source, get the error http://pastebin.com/eY6JUi3v, any suggestions?
[20:07] <theadmin> skrlec: Sounds like you got a driver for the wrong architecture, e.g. you're trying to run 32-bit soft on a 64-bit machine or vice versa.
[20:08] <xangua> _ohm: use repositories ;)
[20:08] <Dulak> _ohm: fix your clock
[20:08] <fester77> software center?  Im using KpackageKit ... i got ubunto and installed kde ... so now it kubunto ( or ubunto + kde ..... (confused)
[20:08] <skrlec> theadmin, i have 64 bit processor and 32 bit ubuntu 10.10 OS
[20:08] <sudokill> SpaceBass try lspci see if it shows there
[20:09] <mrb> anyone tried Gnome3 on ubuntu ?!
[20:09] <xangua> !gnome3 | mrb
[20:09] <D-coy> gnome sucks. . .. pekwm rulez :P
[20:09] <theadmin> mrb: I have 2 words: don't.
[20:09] <adlight> not yet
[20:09] <justinxxx> Um I need some help
[20:09] <sudokill> not worth it im guessing
[20:09] <adlight> wait for next release
[20:10] <PHP_question> #PHP is invite only channel?
[20:10] <fester77> xangua?
[20:10] <theadmin> PHP_question: You have to register.
[20:10] <sudokill> i like gnome 3 but its not amazing
[20:10] <adlight> gnome is ok
[20:10] <mrb> okay :)
[20:10] <justinxxx> My programs are showing up either too large or they are going under the scrollbar so I cant get at the top bar
[20:10] <adlight> in my oppinion better than unity for the moment
[20:10] <sudokill> muhc better than unity imo
[20:11] <adlight> I am using it on an arch linux system
[20:11] <sudokill> gnome 3?
[20:11] <adlight> yes
[20:11] <justinxxx> My programs are showing up either too large or they are going under the scrollbar so I cant get at the top bar
[20:11] <sudokill> same :)
[20:11] <theadmin> Wow, tons of Arch users around xD
[20:11] <sudokill> i dnt even know why i go on ubuntu irc i only use arch
[20:11] <sudokill> lol
[20:11] <theadmin> justinxxx: Rephrase that, it made no sense
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> i'd say lxde was better :)
[20:11] <adlight> my wife is on that computer now :)
[20:11] <Dulak> ubuntu keeps alienating early adopters and they seem to like arch a lot
[20:11] <adlight> that is why I am here
[20:11] <adlight> on a ubuntu machine
[20:12] <adlight> running unity
[20:12] <Dulak> Hell if unity is the only option in the next LTS i'll be moving to arch myself
[20:12] <justinxxx> theadmin - My programs are showing up under the main panel in ubuntu so I cant move them or get at the menus
[20:12] <sudokill> arch really does own, but i dont wana start an argument
[20:12] <LjL> how's about we keep it about support here? #ubuntu-offtopic is waiting eagerly for all the unity/arch/etc chatter :P
[20:12] <justinxxx> Or they are too large it seems
[20:12] <theadmin> justinxxx: Ah... Hold Alt and drag the window ;)_
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Dulak: why not just install another DE?
[20:12] <compdoc> afeijo, yeah, it needs a formatted partition
[20:13] <compdoc> ooops, I was scrolled back
[20:13] <justinxxx> no its like way under the panel
[20:13] <afeijo> compdoc, what is the command?
[20:13] <justinxxx> how do i get it from hiding the top of the programs like firefox
[20:13] <compdoc> afeijo, use gparted
[20:13] <afeijo> compdoc, its a server, it does not have X
[20:13] <compdoc> ahh
[20:14] <compdoc> how large is the drive?
[20:14] <afeijo> 500gb
[20:14] <compdoc> think you can use either fdisk or parted - google em
[20:15] <justinxxx> im fuged
[20:15] <afeijo> ok
[20:15] <sudokill> afeijo, if ur not comfortable formatting using command use something like a partedmagic livecd
[20:15] <sudokill> if u can
[20:15] <afeijo> sudokill, I do want a cmd :)
[20:15] <sudokill> ok
[20:15] <jenvy> anyonw know why the install of apache on ubuntu doesn't install the latest package?  its like... 3 revisions behind
[20:15] <Dulak> ActionParsnip: I have a couple reasons but mainly because they keep removing the good stuff and replacing it with untested crap.  That doesn't fit my style.  They keep aiming at the lcd and that isn't me.
[20:15] <wilhart> hmm chould it be fault in my lcd tv? flickering on it?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> jenvy: try a ppa
[20:16] <sudokill> ubuntu progs r old
[20:16] <compdoc> wot?!!
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> !latest
[20:16] <sudokill> see ^
[20:17] <woodt> !sru
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Dulak: kde, lxde and xfce have been consistent for years
[20:17] <jenvy> ah ok
[20:17] <woodt> !ppa
[20:18] <alvin_> bye friends! :D
[20:18] <esaym153> when I log in through ssh I see the prompt as "user@name:" How do I change the "name" part? I have two machines that have the same name.. >_>
[20:18] <andro_lsv> any good books to learn Linux?  Like under-the-hood stuff.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[20:19] <llutz> esaym153: thats the hostname
[20:19] <smw> andro_lsv, depends on which part you want to learn
[20:19] <smw> andro_lsv, lfs will teach you alot about how a distro is built. There is a really good book on kernel architecture if you want to learn that.
[20:20] <Dulak> ActionParsnip: I'm not arguing that, but I ain't supporting least common denominator crap.  Like I said, I'll wait for the next LTS, but if it's as bad as it's looking from the latest, I'll be moving along.
[20:20] <smw> andro_lsv, or there are books on using the command line.
[20:20] <brainproxy> zsh auto-config on ubuntu 11.04 is giving me a default prompt that's split across two lines; anyone know if this is a bug?
[20:20] <smw> andro_lsv, and bash scripting
[20:20] <andro_lsv> yeah all that kind of stuff
[20:20] <smw> andro_lsv, what is it you are interested in?
[20:21] <llutz> esaym153: so either change the hostname to  a unique one or the PS1 var in your .bashrc
[20:21] <smw> andro_lsv, you need to tell me where you want to start ;-)
[20:21] <esaym153> llutz: fixed it, ty
[20:21] <andro_lsv> I guess right now I'm interested in using the command line
[20:22] <afeijo> mkfs! command found and used :) partition mounted, thanks guys
[20:22] <sudokill> andro_lsv, its easier if u have a goal
[20:22] <_ohm> Building program from source, getting this error http://pastebin.com/eY6JUi3v. Adjusted time and timezone to accurate conditions, still getting the error
[20:22] <smw> andro_lsv, advanced bash scripting guide is probably good. Let me look it over quickly
[20:22] <sudokill> andro_lsv, u could try installing a distro than requires command line that way ud learn easier
[20:22] <coilbucker1> You could try an arch install. It doesn't even have a window manager at first.
[20:22] <sudokill> yea arch is a good way to learn very basic things
[20:22] <smw> andro_lsv, learning the command line takes trial and error. A lot of practice.
[20:23] <Dulak> slackware is also a good learning linux
[20:23] <smw> andro_lsv, archlinux tosses you into the water to sink or swim. It has pretty good starter docs...
[20:23] <Ddpbf> sudokill: arch is also good way to delete entire hard drive
[20:23] <Ddpbf> :)
[20:23] <sudokill> andro_lsv, u'll find that as u have problems / need to do new things using linux, u'll learn how to solve them / do them along the way
[20:23] <mbnoimi> where can I request to add new software in ubuntu repositories?
[20:23] <sudokill> Ddpbf, sorry to hear that lol
[20:23] <sudokill> should be careful then :)
[20:23] <andro_lsv> I took a class about Linux but we only learned the very basic stuff.
[20:24] <sudokill> what like ls commands
[20:24] <smw> mbnoimi, chances are it will fall on deaf ears unless you package it yourself...
[20:24] <sudokill> cd
[20:24] <Schnitz> Hello guys, I try to get it short =) I am trying to install Ubuntu on my Sony Vaio Notebook (VGN-AW31S). But I only see the Ubuntu Logo + the loading indicator (for about 30 minutes Oo)
[20:24] <StevenR> Hi. I had a sftp session open through nautilus... but the network connection died. How do I make gnone consider it really gone, so I can restart it?
[20:25] <Schnitz> Any thoughts?
[20:25] <mbnoimi> smw: you mean I've to package it by myself in launchpad.net
[20:25] <gratnam11> i just installed ubuntu server
[20:25] <gratnam11> how do i setup eth1
[20:25] <sudokill> Schnitz, from a livecd?
[20:25] <jeramey> hello
[20:25] <Schnitz> Yes sudokill
[20:25] <sudokill> Schnitz, on some PC's it can take aaaaaaages to load
[20:25] <smw> mbnoimi, I think you can submit a bug as a feature request. I am not sure. But the best way to get something included is to make a package and then submit it.
[20:25] <brad_> Hello. My flash plug-in is not working and it was recently. Any thought? Did I do this, or are others having these issues too?
[20:25] <sudokill> it did on my old one
[20:26] <smw> andro_lsv, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal is a good 3 second tutorial
[20:26] <Lofde> I have an IP configuration that is pretty simple, i had to set it using IFCONFIG because i have two network cards, however on reboot the system tries to auto establish connections that it detects from the dhcp server.. can someone help me set these so it stays a manual connection i also had to use 'route add gw ' to use one gateway because i dont need the other routing nic to the internet
[20:26] <smw> andro_lsv, it explains flags well
[20:26] <jeramey> I am trying out ubuntu 11.04 and I am trying to install a apt repository but there is no edit drop down in the software center
[20:26] <Schnitz> Okay, any thoughts to solve this issue? Its not a bad laptop and its only 1 month old. Maybe another installation medium?
[20:26] <gratnam11> i don't see eth0 or eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:27] <smw> andro_lsv, what you need to do is learn enough to be able to look up what you don't know.
[20:27] <sudokill> Schnitz so it's not erroring? is anything animated like red dots or whatever?
[20:27] <gratnam11> how do i see if ubuntu reconized the driver for the network interface
[20:27] <smw> andro_lsv, look at that guide and tell me what you think.
[20:27] <andro_lsv> I'll look at it.
[20:27] <sudokill> gratnam try lspci
[20:27] <Ddpbf> Schnitz: wich gpu?
[20:27] <jeramey> anyone using ubuntu 11.04?
[20:28] <Ddpbf> jeramey: most of people here ;)
[20:28] <brad_> how do
[20:28] <jeramey> there is no edit drop down in my software center
[20:28] <andro_lsv> I'll logout and login using my laptop.  see you in a bit.
[20:28] <brad_> I get adobel flash plugin to work?
[20:28] <mbnoimi> smw: damn, there is a huge gap in Winrar alternative in ubuntu I discuss it with KDE community and I found that best thing is to request to add q7z in ubutnu repository (q7z exists in openSuSE repository)... see kde discussion http://tinyurl.com/3cl3cn4
[20:28] <Schnitz> The loading indicator is working, (red & white dots), GPU = nVidia 9600M GT, CPU = Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 (running at 2x 2560MHz)
[20:29] <skrlec> can someone help me. i would like to install RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe. i found drivers on relink site, but here is the manual, and I am confused what do do with 1>, 2>, 3>, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615476/
[20:29] <sudokill> Schnitz, try rebooting with it again
[20:29] <sudokill> might have randomly locked up
[20:29] <smw> mbnoimi, what do you need winrar for?
[20:29] <lsv> smw: could you post the link again?  (ando_lsv here)
[20:29] <jeramey> trying to get to software resources to enter APT line but there is no edit drop down menu
[20:29] <Ddpbf> brad_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:29] <smw> !cli > lsv
[20:29] <sudokill> jeramey, it should be at the bottom
[20:30] <Schnitz> sudokill, already tried 2 times (I started about 4 hours ago and searching for solutions via smartphone)
[20:30] <jeramey> nothing at the bottom
[20:30] <brad_> Ddpbf, thank you.
[20:30] <lsv> smw: got it, thanks
[20:30] <gratnam11> can someone help me configure my network on ubuntu server
[20:30] <sudokill> Schnitz, I really don't know. I doubt it's a bad disc but always worth trying another one
[20:30] <sudokill> it could be anything
[20:31] <jeramey> in mint it has drop down menu's file edit etc
[20:31] <jeramey> there is non in the ubuntu software center in 11.04 for me
[20:31] <llutz> gratnam11: does "ifconfig -a" list all your interfaces? if yes, add them to /etc/network/interfaces as you like. read "man 5 interfaces" how to do it
[20:31] <mbnoimi> smw: usually in winrar the user can set compression ratio where in Ark it can't be so the user forced to use peazip or q7z where both of them not exist in ubuntu repositories
[20:32] <sudokill> jeramey, can't u just add it from terminal? idk about 11.04
[20:32] <smw> mbnoimi, are you try to make a rar file? why does it matter if you can set a compression ratio?
[20:32] <jeramey> never done it from the terminal im kinda noob
[20:32] <brad_> Ddpbf, that didnt work
[20:32] <smw> mbnoimi, also, what program do you recommend ubuntu get?
[20:32] <jeramey> should i just dump 11.04 and get 10
[20:32] <Schnitz> Okay, thank you =) I'll just continue searching
[20:33] <BKTech86> why can i suspend and hibernate in 10.04 32-bit but not in 10.10 or 11.04 ?
[20:33] <BKTech86> well I can't even install 11.04
[20:33] <BKTech86> even resorted to text-based install and it still froze on first boot up
[20:33] <mbnoimi> smw: I want to create 7z file with hightest compression (9), this can done from CLI where it can't in GUI
[20:33] <Koobalita> Hello
[20:34] <smw> mbnoimi, interesting. what program do you want to install?
[20:34] <mbnoimi> smw: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45453
[20:34] <Koobalita> I have an Iso mounted in Ubuntu that but what do to search for packages installable on that ISO?
[20:35] <jordotech> how can i route local host to /var/www/mydir if its presently just routing to /var/www/ ?
[20:35] <Koobalita> Sorry that sentence was bad
[20:35] <BKTech86> Koobalita: navigate to the iso directory and use find ?
[20:35] <mbnoimi> smw: see this discussion too http://tinyurl.com/3cl3cn4
[20:35] <Schnitz> sudokill, maybe the "Alternate CD" is worth a try?
[20:35] <Koobalita> Bk will it show packages?
[20:35] <brad_> I just ran sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer, and flash still doesnt work. Any thoughts?
[20:35] <Koobalita> i mean it will clarify what the packages are
[20:36] <BKTech86> Koobalita: i duno about that I'm not entirely sure what you're searching for, but cant you just do find . -iname '*.deb' ?
[20:36] <wilhart> soo anyone ?? "nvidia playback flickering"? ??
[20:36] <llutz> jordotech: set correct document-root in your site-config
[20:36] <xangua> brad_: restart the browser
[20:36] <jeramey> Ok I found it! when you open a window apparently it puts the drop down menus at the Very top of your screen (toolbar) instead of the top of the window
[20:36] <Koobalita> ok let me try that
[20:36] <brad_> xangua, I tried that.
[20:37] <spm-Draget> Can anyone edit this wiki page for me, I do nto have an account: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 . The suggested variables have changed months ago (renamed), for example enabling recovery or UUID is without _LINUX_ in the variable name. The current reference is: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration . Could anyone do this or at least check for someone else correcting it for me? Thanks.
[20:37] <sudokill> Schnitz, its worth a try
[20:37] <smw> mbnoimi, I guess you should file a bug. I think when you file a bug you can mark it as an enhancement. However, I think it is unlikely someone will take it :-\
[20:38] <brad_> braiam__,  how do I change my screen name here like you just did?
[20:38] <smw> mbnoimi, or, you can file a bug with ark upstream...
[20:38] <smw> mbnoimi, that is more likely to be handled ;-)
[20:38] <braiam__> brad_: /nick newnick
[20:38] <spm-Draget> Or anyone just adding a note that links to the original documentation and that the example values are wrong, so people do not fall for the same trap!
[20:38] <mbnoimi> smw: yes, thanks for suggestion
[20:38] <Koobalita> ok KB I have an ISO on my desktop I want to search through nad see what packages are available for me to install
[20:38] <smw> mbnoimi, you can also make your own then go into the ubuntu dev channel and ask for someone to review/submit it. Sort of a mentorship thing.
[20:39] <Koobalita> Thats the question
[20:39] <smw> mbnoimi, they tend to like to do that ;-)
[20:39] <phox_>  Unity has gone balls out and won't return from its hiding place. How do I restart it?