[00:03] <nevelli> hi, I'm looking for some help with a particular issue related to nvidia drivers, but I don't know exactly where to direct my questions to
[00:05] <nevelli> (I think) I have located the section of the logs which provides the errors, but again, I don't know how to go about addressing the issue
[00:06] <blackbird1> Hi, I need help with ses and regex
[00:06] <blackbird1> sed*
[00:09] <polmik> hi
[00:09] <nacc> !ask | blackbird1, although you might get a faster response in a more appropriate channel, e.g. ##linux
[00:10] <darkmessiah> !patience
[00:12] <doolboot> hello 0erHeks i am back
[00:13] <doolboot> i would like to ask you guys, which partition scheme should i use for my windows10 installation alongside ubuntu?
[00:13] <doolboot> MBR for BIOS or UEF-CSM, MBR for UEFI, or GPT for UEFI
[00:14] <doolboot> i am installing windows 10 on a separate drive from ubuntu, but which partition scheme do i chose?
[00:14] <Pikia> Usually, you would want to install windows 10 first
[00:14] <Pikia> then ubuntu
[00:15] <doolboot> i know but i do not want to reinstall ubuntu :(
[00:15] <Pikia> Then you'll have to deal with Windows 10 deleting GRUB
[00:15] <doolboot> i have a separate hard drive just for windows though, and a separate one for ubuntu
[00:15] <Pikia> and then you won't even be able to boot into your Ubuntu
[00:15] <Pikia> Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see that
[00:15] <doolboot> even if it is on separate hard drives will it delete GRUB?
[00:15] <Pikia> In that case, I would assume UEFI
[00:16] <Pikia> Just disconnect the drive with ubuntu on it when installing windows 10
[00:16] <doolboot> okay, and would i use MBR or GPT partition scheme? for UEFI
[00:16] <doolboot> i have 2 options here when burning the windows ISO to a uSB
[00:17] <Pikia> Just download RUFUS
[00:17] <Pikia> Google it and use it to burn the ISO to a USB
[00:17] <Pikia> Its much more streamlined and easier
[00:18] <doolboot> yes i have rufus, its just that it gives me different options for the partition scheme and im not sure if i should do MBR or GPT
[00:18] <doolboot> i think i will stick with GPT since its newer
[00:18] <Pikia> I just left mine on defualt.
[00:19] <Pikia> MBR iirc
[00:19] <doolboot> alright yea
[00:19] <doolboot> thanks
[00:20] <nairwolf> Hi, I've discovered the command 'tabs' but I don't understand what it does. Is it possible that this command does nothing with some terminal ?
[00:20] <doolboot> and does it matter whether i configure the ISO to FAT32 or NTFS? will it install as NTFS anyways once i boot from USB?
[00:21] <lurkashflake> where is my external cd/dvd reader/burner being detected at?
[00:22] <Pikia> doolboot: youre going to want NTFS for windows
[00:22] <doolboot> ok
[00:23] <lurkashflake> brasero doesn't detect my external cd/dvd burner
[00:23] <lurkashflake> I am on a live Ubuntu 14 cd
[00:25] <Pikia> does ubuntu detect it lurkashflake ?
[00:25] <lurkashflake> I don't think so
[00:25] <lurkashflake> lsblk doesn't show it
[00:26] <Pikia> Stupid question, but is it connected?
[00:26] <razeal113> having an issue with partitions after an install and need advice, posted my question here http://askubuntu.com/questions/815581/help-understanding-partitions-on-ubuntu
[00:26] <Pikia> My drive sometimes turns off by itself :/
[00:26] <lurkashflake> Yes it is
[00:27] <Pikia> razeal113: I'm having a hard time understanding your question
[00:27] <Pikia> Do you want to know what all the parttions means?
[00:28] <Pikia> lurkashflake: I'm probably not the best person to ask about this XD But could it be a driver issue??
[00:28] <Pikia> It seems really unlikely though.
[00:28] <lurkashflake> I'll plug in another drive instead :)
[00:28] <Pikia> razeal113: sda3 is your swap partition, think of it as extra ram in case you run out of ram.
[00:29] <Pikia> A lot of people argue about wheater or not you should have more or less, but in the end its up to you and how you use your machine
[00:29] <razeal113> Pikia: I appear to be using only the sda3 memory though and don't seem to have access to sda2 memory
[00:29] <Pikia> You don't have access to it?
[00:31] <Pikia> razeal113: I might be wrong on this, but it might be beacause your sda2 is formatted in the wrong partition type
[00:32] <doolboot> thanks for help guys, i think i will use win10 iso with GPT UEFI and NTFS formatting. i will come back here if i come into trouble installing tomorrow
[00:32] <razeal113> Pikia:  what partition type should it be in?  And if it is wrong, can i change it ?
[00:34] <Pikia> I liked, ext4 is okay.
[00:35] <Pikia> I'm not sure why youre not able to acess it though, I'm sorry
[00:35] <Pikia> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19796/filesystem-types-for-partitions
[00:35] <Pikia> This is a good link to read up on patition types
[00:36] <nevelli> hi, I'm looking for some help with a particular issue related to nvidia drivers, (I think) I have located the section of the logs which provides the errors, but I don't know how to go about addressing the issue or where to post the log exerpts for more help
[00:37] <Pikia> nevelli: Try here :D But it seems a lot of people aren't really active atm./
[00:37] <Pikia> I can try to help... but my knowledge in linux is pretty limited
[00:38] <nevelli> ok, so basically, i have graphics issues where the system locks up, the mouse is still moving, sound is working, networking functions, but otherwise the system is unresponsive
[00:39] <nevelli> also most notably... the system doesn't come back from sleep
[00:39] <Pikia> For the sleep issue, did you set up a swap partition?
[00:39] <Pikia> and how big is it?
[00:39] <nevelli> swap partition is 64gb i believe
[00:39] <nevelli> one sec
[00:40] <nevelli> excuse me
[00:40] <nevelli> 16gb
[00:40] <nevelli> i have 64gb of ram though
[00:40] <Pikia> That should be more than enough, considering you have 64gb of ram.
[00:40] <Pikia> I've run into problems with sleep before because my HDD actually shut down due to bios stuffies fucking with it
[00:41] <Pikia> That MAY be an issue
[00:41] <nevelli> so here is the syslog
[00:41] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909058] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: PBDMA0: 00200000 [METHOD] ch 5 [023f971000 compiz[5454]] subc 0 mthd 00fc data 0000000a
[00:41] <nevelli> i get a spam of these
[00:41] <nevelli> followed by...
[00:42] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909072] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 0000000c [INVALID_BITFIELD] ch 5 [023f971000 compiz[5454]] subc 0 class a097 mthd 0104 data 80000006
[00:42] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909117] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: gr engine fault on channel 5, recovering...
[00:42] <dancingd3mon> I've a general question, I want to install windows using vmware workstation
[00:42] <nevelli> Aug 22 17:04:26 U16-5820K kernel: [40230.909128] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: ILLEGAL_MTHD ch 5 [023f971000 compiz[5454]] subc 0 class a097 mthd 0128 data 00000002
[00:43] <dancingd3mon> it says a message that i need 2 gb swap memory, may i know what is that?
[00:43] <nevelli> it means you need to allocate 2GB to a partition for the system to use
[00:43] <dancingd3mon> but it already took 60 gb
[00:43] <dancingd3mon> and i have 5 tb left
[00:44] <nevelli> for swap?
[00:44] <dancingd3mon> I gave it 4 gb of ram
[00:44] <dancingd3mon> idk what swap is tbh
[00:44] <dancingd3mon> what is it needed for ?
[00:44] <nevelli> the system uses it in case you run out of ram
[00:44] <Pikia> Think of it as RAM
[00:44] <nevelli> ^
[00:45] <Pikia> nevelli: im not sure whats going on tbh. Im sorry
[00:45] <Tin_man> slow ram
[00:45] <nevelli> it is a seperate partition on the hdd exclusively reserved for the system to swap data to and from like ram...
[00:45] <dancingd3mon> okay, so how to check my swap memory ? I guess I can't add more data to swap without formatting my whole server, correct?
[00:46] <nevelli> Pikia: where sohuld I go to for help with this?
[00:46] <nevelli> yes you can
[00:46] <razeal113> Pikia: when running a VM i get the error that I only have 3.6Gig of ram available.  This is what led me to think that its an issue with the partitions.  Its as if it only sees the swap memory.
[00:46] <dancingd3mon> may i know how nevelli ?
[00:46] <nevelli> you can use gparted... and craeat a spap partition at the end of the volume
[00:46] <nevelli> create a swap **
[00:47] <Pikia> Is windows the host or the guest os?
[00:47] <Pikia> nevelli: tbh... I'm not sure. You can try ##linux and see if theyre willing to help
[00:47] <dancingd3mon> guest os
[00:47] <dancingd3mon> Idk how to do this nevelli :( but thanks anyway
[00:47] <dancingd3mon> any guide to follow?
[00:47] <Pikia> dancingd3mon: Try google.
[00:48] <Pikia> dancingd3mon: I'm not sure why its asking for swap memory for windows tbh. I didin't think windows suported swap but I might be wrong
[00:48] <nevelli> dancingd3mon: google -> gparted create swap partition at the end of the volume
[00:49] <Tin_man> yes windows does have a swap, not called swap though.
[00:49] <Tin_man> Pagefile in windows
[00:49] <dancingd3mon> okay so all i did was install vmware workstation on ubuntu and then I edit the configuration to use 4 gb of ram and left the rest, I chose the iso and then that message showed up. the ram was 1 gb and I raised it to 4
[00:50] <dancingd3mon> maybe thats why the swap message showed up?
[00:50] <Tin_man> yes, i believe so, but it's been a long time since i've run a VM
[00:50] <Tin_man> how much total ram do you have?
[00:50] <dancingd3mon> 16 gb
[00:50] <nevelli> dancingd3mon: i didn't realize you were talking about a VM
[00:51] <dancingd3mon> yup it's a VM :) all good
[00:51] <Tin_man> 4 should be fine, just continue, see what happens
[00:51] <dancingd3mon> thanks, It has been showing this finalizing your settings since forever
[00:52] <dancingd3mon> waiting for it to finish and see what will happen
[00:52] <Tin_man> i run normal windows 10 with 2gb physical memory..
[00:52] <dancingd3mon> okay so i have lxde-core installed, will I need always to vnc to my server and view my VM that way ? it's like a window inside a window.
[00:53] <dancingd3mon> http://prntscr.com/c95q5z
[00:53] <Tin_man> don't know, like I said, been over 2 years since I've played around with a VM
[00:53] <dancingd3mon> all good Tin_man
[00:53] <dancingd3mon> many thanks guys
[00:53] <Tin_man> np
[00:54] <Sweepyoface> Whats wrong with my apt?
[00:54] <Sweepyoface> when I apt update it gets stuck at 0% [Working]
[00:55] <FinalX> Sweepyoface: can you resolve hostnames? i had it a few times and it was that my /etc/resolv.conf was messed up
[00:55] <Sweepyoface> as a matter of fact I cant..
[00:55] <Sweepyoface> FinalX, how did you fix it?
[00:57] <FinalX> by setting a nameserver in /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base and restarting resolvconf
[00:57] <FinalX> eh, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[00:57] <FinalX> but i have to go now :) sorry
[00:57] <Sweepyoface> ah, nevermind
[00:57] <Sweepyoface> security group issue
[00:57] <Sweepyoface> thanks
[00:57] <backbox> gr33n
[00:59] <NSGFK> Guys.
[00:59] <NSGFK> Who here has OpenVZ experience with Ubuntu
[00:59] <NSGFK> and selling Ubuntu OpenVZ instances
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[01:03] <jser> hi, has anybody using kali linux ?
[01:04] <dax> !kali
[01:05] <dax> huuygt77: no spam in #ubuntu-* channels, thanks
[01:05] <jser> thans . haha
[01:05] <tripelb> where do I ask this question? Is it posaible to get into another computer when you are both attqched to the same wifi network?
[01:06] <lordcirth> tripelb, you mean remote login?
[01:06] <huuygt77> !mint
[01:06] <Kev__> I downloaded gnome ppp and saved to a USB, how do I get ubuntu ro install it from the flash drive ?
[01:07] <Pikia> Kev__: set your bios to boot to usb
[01:07] <lordcirth> Kev__, a .deb package?
[01:07] <lordcirth> tripelb, Use SSH or VNC
[01:07] <Kev__> idk
[01:07] <Kev__> I set my windows 7 laptop to boot ubuntu from a dvd
[01:07] <Kev__> I am trying it out
[01:08] <philspain> hi, I have a problem with permissions to var/www folder. when I try to access with cd var/www I get "file/dir not exists" but I can create files in there with nano. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 on vps and ls -al /var/www states drwxrwsr-x  2 ghost www-data 4096 Aug 23 00:51 html
[01:08] <Kev__> want to be able to configure my usb720 modem to connect to verizon wireless
[01:08] <lordcirth> philspain, perhaps you are forgetting the leading slash?  /var/www
[01:08] <philspain> omg#
[01:08] <lordcirth> Kev__, and you have the ppp package on a USB?
[01:08] <philspain> thanks!
[01:09] <Kev__> yes
[01:09] <Kev__> ubuntu shows it and its folder contents
[01:09] <tripelb> lordcirth: re use ssh or vnc. i want to share my neighbors wifi but he is afraid.
[01:09] <lordcirth> tripelb, what are you trying to do exactly?
[01:09] <Kev__> but I can't get it to install in my system
[01:09] <lordcirth> Kev__, you should be able to rightclick on the package, I think, and install?
[01:10] <Kev__> tried that, no go
[01:10] <lordcirth> Kev__, define no go.  What error?
[01:10] <Kev__> could it be because I have not installed ubuntu onto my harddrive ?
[01:10] <lordcirth> Kev__, I forget if you can install packages in the LiveCD or not
[01:11] <Kev__> this is a whole new world to me, I can tell ubuntu is going to kill brain cells
[01:11] <lordcirth> Kev__, ah, apparently you can't.
[01:11] <tripelb> lordcirth: VNC is a graphical desk sharing system.   You should consider trying Ubuntu in Virtualbox instead, and/or dual booting.
[01:12] <elliot-59> or dualboot if youre not ready for a full transition
[01:13] <Kev__> I have 4 GB of RAM
[01:13] <Kev__> wanted to see how I would like it before committing to install
[01:13] <Kev__> 300 GB harddrive
[01:13] <Kev__> so I have lots of space and memory
[01:13] <lordcirth> Kev__, so you can try Ubuntu in a virtual machine inside Windows then.  You will be able to install packages, it'll just be a bit slow
[01:14] <elliot-59> lubuntu should run a bit faster too
[01:14] <tripelb> lordcirth: i want to find a way to make my neighbor safe from the "perhaps" of me spying on his computer. i thought the defense would be in the firewall on his router. i was planning on buying a wifi extender.
[01:14] <Kev__> I was hoping to try it online but can't get my modem working with it
[01:15] <lordcirth> tripelb, oh, you want to set up wifi such that you can use it without access to his network?
[01:15] <tripelb> lordcirth: he gets wifi. i dont want to pay for it separately when we could have it together.
[01:16] <lordcirth> Well, that would imply he trusts you to set up his network, since whoever sets that up controls it
[01:16] <Kev__> I was hoping to get comfortable with the language and features before installing
[01:16] <tripelb> lordcirth: that is correct.
[01:16] <lordcirth> Kev__, Virtualbox sounds like the best route to me.,
[01:16] <galaxiax> algum br ai?
[01:17] <lordcirth> Kev__, https://www.virtualbox.org/  Just install it on Windows, make a VM, and give it the Ubuntu ISO.
[01:17] <Kev__> Thanks, I'm thinking along the same line
[01:17] <Pikia> Kev__: What exavtly are you tired of with windows?
[01:17] <galaxiax> alguem do brasil?
[01:17] <Kev__> I'm tired of things that just quit working for no reason
[01:17] <lordcirth> tripelb, I don't think there's a way for you to make his network secure against you unless he trusts you to begin with
[01:18] <lordcirth> tripelb, unless perhaps you suggest solutions to him and he implements them.
[01:18] <Kev__> I tried to get 4 small updates, 24.2 MB for a week, refused to download them
[01:18] <elliot-59> i want to program a script that mutes my system when is shutting down and unmutes it after it boots, how would i go about doing that?
[01:18] <tripelb> lordcirth: i didnt know that. i am disappointed.
[01:18] <tripelb> and thanks.
[01:18] <Kev__> I ended up having to manually download and install them
[01:18] <lordcirth> elliot-59, do you perhaps just want to disable the shutdown and bootup sounds?
[01:19] <budder> hey guys, looking to install ubuntu for the first time. the installation guide recommends 1gb of memory and 10gb of hard drive. I understand the hard disk part, but why the RAM? Does this mean 1gb of RAM will ONLY be working while running ubuntu and now I will only have 7 for when using windows?
[01:19] <elliot-59> yeah, plus this annoying beep my laptop makes after its plugges/unplugged, cant seem to find a way to get rid of it
[01:20] <budder> (if i had a 8gb of RAM of course)
[01:20] <Pikia> budder: Are you trying to dual boot or do a fresh install of ubuntu?
[01:20] <lordcirth> budder, whatever OS is running always owns all the RAM.
[01:20] <lordcirth> RAM is short-term memory, the stuff in it is wiped when you reboot
[01:20] <budder> Pikia: i want to dual boot, but i have never installed ubuntu before so idk if that counts as a fresh install?
[01:20] <tripelb> question: I have 14.04 with /home in a separate partition. i want to install 16.04 in its own partition and I want to use the same /home. Is there any way I can make the mistake or erasing the current-existing /home partition?
[01:20] <elliot-59> budder: what you read only means that ubuntu needs 1g of ram minimum to run correctly
[01:20] <budder> lordcirth: then why allocate memory? this is confusing me
[01:21] <lordcirth> budder, you don't need to "allocate" RAM.  Your computer just has to have at least 1GB or it won't work.
[01:21] <Pikia> It seems to be youre trying to install ubuntu inside a VM
[01:21] <galaxiax> alguem do brasil?
[01:21] <lordcirth> elliot-59, as for the beep, you could try blacklisting pcspkr module
[01:22] <budder> lordcirth: okay i see. but you do need to allocate hard disk space right? i believe my confusion was coming from thinking that you also need to allocate RAM the way you do hard disk space. does this seem correct to you?
[01:22] <budder> Pikia: what is a VM?
[01:22] <budder> Pikia: i want to install alongside windows
[01:22] <lordcirth> He's not using a VM, ignore that
[01:22] <Pikia> You run two OS at the same time.
[01:23] <Kev__> I will try the VM thing and dual boot, thank you for the help, I'm sure I will be back with more questions
[01:23] <Pikia> Ah, okay. Yeah im stupod./
[01:23] <lordcirth> budder, Hard disk space is persistent, you do need to allocate that, yes.
[01:24] <kyles_> Hello. On my laptop, my mouse does not move after some boots. Does anybody know what could cause this?
[01:24] <budder> lordcirth: then what exactly is a swap? I thought that that was RAM you had to set aside for ubuntu? i'm quite confused...
[01:24] <elliot-59> vm is a virtual machine, kind of like an emulator that runs inside windows and can load linux or other os's, dual booting means you install both os's on your hard drive and log in to the one you want every time you boot up
[01:24] <elliot-59> if youre just trying it out is easier to run it on a vm
[01:24] <lordcirth> budder, swap is space on the hard drive which Linux can use if you run out of RAM.
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[01:25] <budder> lordcirth: so is that something you need to manually set? and if my PC has 8gbs of RAM, that is not something I need to worry about, correct?
[01:25] <elliot-59> swap is for older computer with small ram so that linux can use hard drive space as ram, nowadays i dont think you need swap though with like 8 gb of ram
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[01:25] <lordcirth> budder, swap is optional with 8GB of RAM.
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[01:26] <budder> lordcirth: thanks for your help
[01:26] <milf> !spam | tsia
[01:26] <lordcirth> budder, swap is another partition on your hard drive, normally, beside the Linux partition ( and Windows if you have it)
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[01:27] <budder> lordcirth: so i should not worry about swap, right?
[01:27] <elliot-59> dude stop spamming
[01:27] <budder> since i have 8gb already
[01:27] <elliot-59> budder: youre fine
[01:27] <lordcirth> budder, up to you.  If you have lots of hard drive space, you can.
[01:27] <milf> srry
[01:28] <budder> elliot-59: okay thanks. so would  you suggest allocating 10gb of hard disk space? or +/-?
[01:28] <lordcirth> budder, 20 to 40GB
[01:28] <elliot-59> ^^ what he said
[01:29] <lordcirth> 10 is only fine if you don't intend on actually installing anything :P
[01:29] <budder> lordcirth: possible to adjust later?
[01:29] <lininois> budder: ?
[01:29] <budder> lininois: yes?
[01:30] <budder> wtf??
[01:30] <lordcirth> budder, it's a little difficult.  Best to give it extra
[01:30] <budder> sry. got a pm from a child
[01:30] <ruu7> !spam | budder
[01:30] <lordcirth> Oh, him again
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[01:31] <lininois> budder: its you
[01:33] <evalde> What would you guys say is the best way to learn linux/ubuntu (shell, file systems, etc.)?
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[01:33] <lordcirth> evalde, there are some online tutorials, one sec
[01:33] <evalde> sorry?
[01:34] <lordcirth> evalde, ignore him, he's spamming
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[01:34] <lordcirth> milf, that is completely offtopic here, even if you weren't spamming it
[01:35] <elliot-59> evalde: everything you mentioned, try to learn how to do everything you would normally do with the terminal, shell scripting, just mess around, break stuff, fix stuff..... at leas thats how i am learning
[01:35] <budder> lordcirth: elliot-59 is it possible to adjust the partition later?
[01:35] <lordcirth> evalde, http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/  Bandit is a fun terminal - based game
[01:35] <lordcirth> budder, it is but it's a bit of a hassle so I'd suggest just giving it lots
[01:35] <elliot-59> budder: on a vm?
[01:35] <milf> evalde look at http://djangoshell.net23.net
[01:35] <budder> elliot-59: no i want to dual boot alongside windows
[01:36] <elliot-59> you have low space? just give it like 40 or something just in case, i mean you can readjust partition sizes but like lordcirth mentioned, its a bit of a hassle
[01:36] <tgm4883> milf: nobody wants your free shell, it's off topic. Please stop
[01:38] <milf> what other active channel is ther
[01:38] <milf> *there
[01:39] <Kev__> I went to download virtualbox, the only one highlighted to download is for lixus hosts, will that work on my windows system ?
[01:42] <lordcirth> Kev__, you want the one for Windows hosts
[01:42] <lordcirth> Kev__, click on the "amd64" bit to the right of it
[01:42] <Kev__> thanks, I finally noticed the amd 64 highlighted
[01:43] <Kev__> I am on my other laptop, so will save it to USB then transfer it to the one I want to put ubuntu on
[01:43] <Kev__> so many moving parts to keep track of !!!!
[02:02] <Allahu> Hi guys
[02:03] <lordcirth> Allahu, hi
[02:03] <Allahu> well i make custom iso of ubuntu using uck, but vmlinuz.efi no go. error /lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/module.dep: No such file or directory..
[02:04] <Allahu> my current kernel is 3.5.0-54-generic
[02:04] <Allahu> vmlinuz works but vmlinuz.efi wont go
[02:05] <Allahu> stop initramfs busybox
[02:07] <Allahu> i can extract vmlinuz.efi?
[02:08] <Kev__> installed virtualbox on the other laptop, and named it ubuntu, what do I do next to install the ubuntu DVD there ?
[02:08] <lordcirth> Allahu, sorry there aren't as many people here who are familiar with spinning isos
[02:08] <lordcirth> Kev__, hit Start, and it will prompt for a CD or ISO
[02:08] <bob_>  hi all. I've just updated my main work desktop from 14.10 to 16.something LTS. After the update process, the computer rebooted.
[02:08] <bob_> Not that it's rebooted, the monitors are blank
[02:09] <bob_> There seems to be no signal to them
[02:09] <Allahu> bob_: clean install?
[02:09] <bob_> However, the machine must be working. I'm able to ssh in
[02:09] <lordcirth> He said "the update process"
[02:09] <bob_> Allahu: no. not clean install
[02:09] <lordcirth> bob_, what graphics card and driver are you using?
[02:09] <Kev__> I really appreciate all the help, it's tough on this 61 year old brain
[02:10] <Allahu> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg-lts-xenial
[02:10] <th0r> Kev__, it
[02:10] <th0r> Kev__, OOPS...it's easier at 69 <smile.
[02:10] <Kev__> LOL
[02:10] <darkmessiah511> Hello. Tell me a good text editor to you with Pyton on Ubuntu 16.04
[02:11] <darkmessiah511> use*
[02:11] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm not sure how to tell... but now that I'm shelled in I can run commands as root. How can I discover which video card I'm using from the cli ?
[02:11] <bob_> Allahu: what would that command do?
[02:11] <lordcirth> bob_, lspci | grep VGA
[02:11] <bad> /whois $me
[02:11] <Allahu> bob_: maybe you reconfigure X works
[02:12] <th0r> darkmessiah511, is nedit still available?
[02:12] <bob_> lordcirth:VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1)
[02:12] <lordcirth> bob_, very nice.  How'd you get a 860 without noticing? :P
[02:12] <lordcirth> 960*
[02:13] <Allahu> well i make custom iso of ubuntu using uck, but vmlinuz.efi no go. error /lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/module.dep: No such file or directory... so... my current kernel is 3.5.0-54-generic... vmlinuz work vmlinuz.efi dont
[02:13] <bob_> I don't know anything about that card. I'm only an expert on video cards for the two or three hours before I buy one.
[02:13] <bob_> I just needed a card that could run two monitors and lots of browser tabs.
[02:14] <lordcirth> bob_, " glxinfo | grep -i vendor " Do you get "NVIDIA Corporation"?
 i think is no more supported for 16.04
[02:15] <bob_> grep: warning: GREP_OPTIONS is deprecated; please use an alias or script
[02:15] <bob_> interesting
[02:16] <lordcirth> wierd
[02:16] <bob_> does grep work differently these days?
[02:16] <bob_> I did 'unalias grep', ran that command again, and got the same result
[02:16] <lordcirth> bob_, are you using a shell other than bash?
[02:16] <th0r> darkmessiah511, that's a shame, but doesn't surprise me. that is why I switched to debian, and now use raspbian for everything. just checked, it is in the repos for raspbian
[02:17] <bob_> lordcirth: oh yes! I'm using zsh
[02:17] <lordcirth> bob_, anyways, the command still works, right?
[02:17] <lordcirth> bob_, that's it then.
[02:17] <Allahu> can extract vmlinuz.efi?
[02:17] <lordcirth> bob_, fix for zsh/grep: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31156517/how-to-get-rid-of-grep-warning-grep-options-is-deprecated-please-use-an-alia
[02:17] <darkmessiah511> Ok, I`ll try it out. Thanks alot. I'm trying to start working with python.
[02:18] <darkmessiah511> One more thing. How do I reply to a person, like you did with me? (I`m new to HexChat, Irc and even Linux)
[02:18] <LordLaravel> darkmessiah511, start to type their name and press tab
[02:19] <darkmessiah511> LordLaravel, I see, thanks.
[02:19] <lordcirth> darkmessiah511, Just make sure to check the autocomplete before hitting enter or maybe you highlight the wrong person :P
[02:19]  * akison slaps lordcirth around a bit with a large trout
[02:19] <darkmessiah511> lordcirth, Key, thank you very much.
[02:20]  * akison slaps lordcirth around a bit with a large trout
[02:20]  * lordcirth noticed the first time
[02:22] <bob_> drat. that fix doesnt work. I logged out and then shelled back in again. But with the new shell i still can't grep
[02:22] <Kev__> This kernel requires an x86-64 cpu but only detected an i686 cpu. What gives? I am running windows 7 64 bit !!
[02:23] <bob_> 'unset GREP _OPTIONS'
[02:23] <bob_> that worked
[02:23] <lordcirth> bob_, excellent
[02:23] <lordcirth> Kev__, perhaps you made the VM 32-bit
[02:23] <Kev__> that was my only choice that I saw
[02:23] <lordcirth> Kev__, select the VM from the list and go to Settings
[02:24] <lordcirth> Kev__, do you have HyperV installed?
[02:24] <bob_> lordcirth: that command you gave me before returns: Error: unable to open display
[02:24] <Kev__> don't know what that is
[02:24] <lordcirth> Kev__, Microsoft virtualization.  Can only have 1 64bit virtualization system active.
[02:25] <bob_> please don't tell me that I have to reconfigure X. This takes me back to the bad old days
[02:25] <lininois> bob_: cry
[02:25] <Kev__> in the list, it only shows 32 bit for win 7
[02:25]  * bob_ cries
[02:25] <lordcirth> lininois, go away, you're evading a ban
[02:26] <lordcirth> bob_, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:28] <bob_> http://pastebin.com/19KwPmWJ
[02:29] <Kev__> this may be a dumb question, but if I power down the laptop and restart with the ubuntu dvd, and click install, will it give me the option to install to the VM and everything work right ?
[02:29] <lordcirth> Kev__, no, VMs only exist when the host is running
[02:30] <Kev__> so it looks like I am screwed
[02:30] <lordcirth> bob_, I don't see anything wrong.
[02:30] <lordcirth> Kev__, search for HyperV in your start menu
[02:30] <bob_> interesting
[02:31] <lordcirth> bob_, most likely it's not getting that far so that's the old log
[02:31] <bob_> hmm
[02:31] <Kev__> shows no items named hyper v
[02:31] <lordcirth> bob_, try booting with "nomodeset" parameter
[02:31] <bob_> lordcirth: how do I do that?
[02:32] <lordcirth> Kev__, Oh, look in BIOS settings to enable virtualization.  Many leave it off by default (no idea why)
[02:33] <lordcirth> bob_, boot to grub, hold shift to stop the timer.  It will tell you to press 'e', I think, to edit the boot entry.  Find the Linux kernel line and tack "nomodeset" on the end after "quiet splash"
[02:33] <Smn> hello, guys, I have a problem, I'm on ubuntu 16.04 and I installed a wifi pci card, however, I have to enable it manually enable it after each boot using modprobe
[02:33] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm not getting that far in the boot process. There's no signal to the monitors at all
[02:33] <Smn> it isn't loading at boot time for some reason
[02:34] <th0r> Smn, did you try entering the modules in /etc/modules
[02:34] <lordcirth> bob_, do you see BIOS?
[02:35] <Smn> no
[02:35] <bob_> lordcirth: sorry, one sec. I'm just booting again to see what I get
[02:35] <Kev__> Shows Intel Virtualization Technology is DISABLED
[02:35] <Kev__> is that is ?
[02:35] <Kev__> it
[02:35] <Smn> now it is there
[02:35] <ksft> I was here a few days ago because I was having trouble with my dual graphics card thing.
[02:36] <ksft> I upgraded to 16.04. Which drivers should I try first?
[02:36] <Smn> Kev__, intel has a lot of different virtualization technologies, have you checked if your cpu supports what you are specifically looking at?
[02:36] <lordcirth> Kev__, yeah, enable that if you can
[02:36] <Smn> ksft, well, I couldn't help you with gpus, but you should at least say what brand they are
[02:36] <Kev__> I would think it does if I can run a 64 bit win 7 on it
[02:37] <bob_> lordcirth: I've rebooted again. Same thing: I can shell in, but there's no signal to the monitor
[02:37] <lordcirth> bob_, do you see BIOS when booting?
[02:37] <de453> hey
[02:37] <ksft> Smn: oh, of course
[02:38] <ksft> The intergrated one is Intel, and the dedicated one is Nvidia.
[02:38] <Kev__> it will not let me enable it
[02:38] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm not sure. I was looking away. I'll try again and keep my eyes on the screen this time
[02:38] <ksft> Should I install nvidia-current? Should I install bumblebee or nvidia-prime?
[02:38] <Azy8BsKXVko> Hello. Is it safe to click "Install" when I get the HWE_EOL popup? I was kind of frightened when the packages being downloaded had "xenial" in the name, because I'd rather not have an error that requires me to reinstall *again*.
[02:39] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, what popup exactly?
[02:39] <Smn> ksft,  I really haven't kept up, and I don't own an nvidia card, but I think bumblebee is deprecated, let me do some checking
[02:39] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: the Software Updater popup.
[02:39] <bob_> lordcirth: yes, I saw the bios
[02:39] <bob_> now I'm seeing something that looks like an fsck
[02:39] <bob_> '/dev/sdb1:clean...'
[02:39] <Smn> ksft,  I'd advise you use the integrated tool that checks if any of your hardware requires privative drivers
[02:40] <lordcirth> bob_, that's good
[02:40] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[02:40] <Smn> and use those, generally speaking nvidia's closed source drivers are considerably better than the open source alternative
[02:40] <ksft> Smn: Which tool is that?
[02:40] <Smn> I don't know how it is called in english, but it should be something like "aditional drivers"
[02:41] <ksft> the "Additional Drivers" thing in Unity's settings thing?
[02:41] <ksft> oh, yeah, oaky
[02:41] <ksft> okay*
[02:41] <bob_> lordcirth: I saw a couple of lines that looked like the beginning of the boot process: notifications of processes starting... then the blank screen
[02:41] <lordcirth> bob_, ok
[02:41] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: 14.04, and this is the popup: http://imgur.com/a/MMBO1
[02:41] <lordcirth> bob_, this is with or without nomodeset?
[02:41] <bob_> without
[02:41] <ksft> Then how do I run programs on the dedicated graphics card?
[02:41] <bob_> like, that's just after I did 'reboot' as root from the shell
[02:42] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, go ahead.  It's just warning you that some things you have installed no longer get security updates because you're behind
[02:42] <lordcirth> bob_, ok, try with
[02:42] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: thanks.
[02:42] <Azy8BsKXVko> If my laptop blows up it's on you. (kidding) :P
[02:44] <lordcirth> Azy8BsKXVko, no, you have backups, right? :)
[02:46] <bob_> lordcirth: ?
[02:46] <Azy8BsKXVko> lordcirth: I don't have anything to back up. ;_;
[02:46] <Azy8BsKXVko> It's just annoying to reinstall.
[02:56] <ksft> I just rebooted, and I'm getting a login loop again.
[02:57] <ksft> I'm on 16.04 now.
[03:00] <cfhowlett> no shortage of solutions on google ...
[03:01] <ksft> for me?
[03:01] <cfhowlett> yep
[03:04] <lordcirth> cfhowlett, we've been few some of them already over the last few days
[03:05] <ksft> I fixed it by removing all the nvidia packages, but then I couldn't use the graphics card. I wanted to upgrade to 16.04 before spending a lot of time trying to fix it, because I was worried it might come back when I did upgrade.
[03:05] <ksft> I backed up important stuff and upgraded. It went mostly smoothly.
[03:06] <ksft> Googled it
[03:06] <ksft> `apt-get update`, `apt-get upgrade`, `apt-get dist-upgrade`, then restarting X didn't help
[03:07] <bob_> lordcirth: I think I'm getting somewhere
[03:08] <bob_> I followed an online guide. I purged the nvidia drivers. Then reinstalled them...
[03:08] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm rebooting now. I've got the ubuntu startup screen
[03:08] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm seeing the logo with the dots under it
[03:08] <ksft> I have nvidia-361, nvidia-opencl-icd-361, and nvidia-prime installed
[03:08] <lordcirth> bob_, good
[03:09] <ksft> I think it would work if I reoved them, but I want to be able to use my dedicated graphics card.
[03:10] <bob_> lordcirth: uhm, I'm still on that screen. it isn't going anywhere.
[03:10] <bob_> lordcirth: I'm still able to shell in though
[03:10] <lordcirth> bob_, hit ESC or Tab to see text
[03:11] <bob_> lordcirth: nothing. I can't see any mouse movement either.
[03:24] <anon_> NICK an0n
[03:25] <bob_> lordcirth: ok, now I've got blank monitors with a mouse. No window management. No gdm
[03:26] <lordcirth> bob_, get a tty and read Xorg.0.log
[03:30] <krobzaur> Has anyone had any luck getting the native google drive integration to work in ubuntu 16.04? I can add my google account but nothing shows up in nautilus ...
[03:33] <bob_> lordcirth: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080260/
[03:34] <bob_> lordcirth: sorry about the delay in pasting that. I'm moving between two computers and I haven't really gotten the hang of my mac yet
[03:34] <lordcirth> bob_, I don't see anything wrong at a glance.  Try dmesg or syslog
[03:34] <lordcirth> bob_, I actually said read it, not paste it, as I will be leaving soon
[03:56] <ksft> I have an integrated Intel graphics card and a dedicated Nvidia one. When I have Nvidia drivers installed, I get a login loop. When I uninstall them, I can log in, but I can't use the Nvidia graphics card.
[03:58] <kellen> hi
[04:10] <sonicx> I'm trying to install Linux on a old  hp pavilion 6500  and having video pms  I would like to have a up to date os of Ubuntu  or something
[04:16] <brisbaneubuntu> hey there is anyone near redlands bay that could please put desktop iso onto a usb for me?
[04:18] <Bashing-om> sonicx: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[04:19] <sonicx> ok cool is there any others that I can look at just in case
[04:20] <Bashing-om> !flavors | sonicx
[04:21] <sonicx> I for got about Ubuntu MATE ok tks I maybe  back
[04:22] <CommingHome_> as of now i dont have logs for this
[04:22] <CommingHome_> but surely raise a bug
[04:24] <evalde> Is ubuntu MATE the best flavor for an older laptop?
[04:24] <Bashing-om> sonicx: :) ,, Old hardware, just try and see what works and what you like .
[04:24] <OerHeks> there is no single best.
[04:24] <EriC^^> evalde: lubuntu is more old-hardware oriented
[04:25] <EriC^^> and lower specs
[04:25] <sonicx> I was hoping for xubuntu to work but in not :( sad lol
[04:25] <sonicx> it did not *
[04:26] <evalde> Hmm. I'm just having some random glitches with ubuntu MATE. Like currently it says I have no wifi connection yet I am chatting here. There are also occasional graphical glitches and slow downs. Any ideas with what this could be? This laptop isnt that old. Dual core Centrino 2
[04:27] <evalde> Most of the graphical issues are happening with Chromium specifically, especially after the laptop goes to sleep and I start it back up again after a few hours. The window will start to glitch out.
[04:27] <evalde> The slowdowns happen when opening files or programs.
[04:27] <evalde> But they are not consistent\
[04:29] <Bashing-om> evalde: 'free -m' say you have enough ram .. and not pounding swap ( you do have a swap partition ?) ?
[04:30] <md_5-> k md_5
[04:30] <evalde> All of that language is a bit above my head. I'm very new to linux shell and linux itself, although I'm more than familiar with the windows equivalent
[04:31] <evalde> As far as ram goes, the machine has 2 GB
[04:31] <evalde> idk what free m or a pounding swap is though
[04:31] <evalde> I do not have a swap partition setup, I haven't partitioned the drive off at all yet beyond what was done in setup
[04:32] <CommingHome_> @evalde why dont you try other distro to check whether its a hardware issue or ubuntu
[04:33] <Bashing-om> evalde: Much like Windows' page file / linux uses a swap partition to move stuff out of ram. if it can not or is too small ,, sytem slows down to a crawl .
[04:33] <evalde> The only reason I don't want to try another distro immediately is because I just spent a few days getting this setup up to speed
[04:34] <CommingHome_> just give a live cd demo and check
[04:35] <evalde> I could setup a bootable USB, I'm currently on vacation so It's gonna be tough for me to get a lot of stuff done hardware wise
[04:35] <Bashing-om> evalde: The installer in wizard install mode would have made up an appropriate swap partitioin . Terminal command ' sudo fisk -lu ' to see the partitioning .
[04:35] <Ben64> fisk?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> >>> fdisk <<<
[04:35] <evalde> is ctrl alt f1 not terminal?
[04:36] <Ben64> usually brings up a console, but you'll probably just want to open something like gnome-terminal
[04:36] <Bashing-om> fdisk * / thanks Ben64
[04:36] <evalde> MATE terminal it is
[04:37] <evalde> the command isn't working
[04:37] <evalde> sudo fisk commmand not found
[04:37] <Ben64> it's fdisk
[04:38] <elias_a> :)
[04:38] <evalde> lol alright
[04:38] <evalde> shit alright let me read through all of this
[04:39] <evalde> there's a lot of info here, what am i looking for?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> !paste | evalde
[04:39] <daemon55> has anybody here have flickering problems with their battery?
[04:40] <evalde> i'm just gonna paste it in a pm if that's ok
[04:40] <Ben64> use a pastebin
[04:40] <evalde> not sure what that is
[04:40] <Ben64> like ubottu said to you, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <BarnabasDK> pastebin.com
[04:40] <cfhowlett> daemon55, please do not waste bandwidth with "anybody"?  questions.
[04:40] <cfhowlett> daemon55, state YOUR specs and details
[04:41] <daemon55> cfhowlett: you mean with the commands?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !details | daemon55,
[04:42] <daemon55> i am having issues with my battery when i am on it it flickers
[04:42] <evalde> omfg
[04:42] <evalde> i can't paste the link here because my chromium url bar is glitching out and is flickering black
[04:42] <evalde> fml
[04:43] <evalde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080457/
[04:43] <cfhowlett> daemon55, ?  your BATTERY flickers?  what?
[04:43] <evalde> GOT IT
[04:43] <daemon55> cfhowlett sorry screen my fault!
[04:44] <evalde> maybe chromium is just too much for my laptop...but that would be shocking because it could run chrome just fine in windows.
[04:44] <evalde> the slowdowns also weren't happening in windows
[04:44] <panpan> Hello! I can't ping in or out on my ubuntu 14.04LTS server. My ip tables are fine (apparently) and i use a network firewall
[04:44] <cfhowlett> daemon55, got it.  If this happens on battery only, I would suggest you start in investigation there.
[04:45] <Bashing-om> evalde: Your paste says swap is not a  issue . it is there and is 2 Gigs in size .
[04:46] <daemon55> cfhowlett i tried google but so far nothing has come up!
[04:46] <evalde> hmm...what else could be causing all of these issues do you think?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> daemon55, http://askubuntu.com/questions/69556/how-to-check-battery-status-using-terminal#102863
[04:47] <evalde> Maybe I should mention that issues will be fixed upon restart. maybe "refreshed" is better than "fixed" because they are all bound to happen again.
[04:50] <BarnabasDK> evalde, so try firefox. if that solves the issue the problem lies in chromium .. if not. you are that much wiser
[04:50] <evalde> Alright, I'll give that a try. The other issues are still up in the air though.
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> hi
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> could someone tell me how to get free bitcoin?
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> my friends told me the ubuntu chat was full of hackers
[04:54] <cfhowlett> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd, wrong channel.  ask elsewhere.  this is ubuntu support
[04:54] <cfhowlett> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd, your friends have misinformed you.
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> but they said you ccould hack
[04:54] <cfhowlett> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd, go away
[04:54] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> and give me free bitcoin on from ubuntu
[04:55] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> they said something about mining
[04:55] <anon__> #kali
[04:55] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> ok
[04:55] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> so are you guys true hackers
[04:56] <ksft> Do you understand what "hackers" means?
[04:57] <cfhowlett> ksft, please do not feed the trolls
[04:57] <Ben64> this is the ubuntu support channel, not hacking, not bitcoin, not anything else besides ubuntu support
[04:57] <ksft> or what Ubuntu is
[04:57] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> yes
[04:57] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> it means free money
[04:57] <ksft> !ops
[04:57] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> its free software to give me money
[04:58] <ksft> (ops: is this enough of an "emergency"?)
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> my frineds said you'll make me live the high life for free
[04:58] <Flannel> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd: This is a channel for Ubuntu technical support.  Please take offtopic conversations elsewhere, thanks.
[04:58] <anon__> ksft: y
[04:58] <ksft> anon__: what?
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> but you guys can give me free money
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> emergency!
[04:58] <ksft> cfhowlett: wasn't entirely sure they were trolling yet
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> emergency!
[04:58] <ksft> cfhowlett: now I am, of course
[04:58] <Flannel> dfdghdfghgfhdfhd: Neither bitcoin nor free money is Ubuntu technical support.
[04:58] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> #ubuntu emergency!
[04:59] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> why'd the connection drop
[04:59] <evalde> jesus christ thanks for getting rid of that lol
[04:59] <arooni> hey folks; running ubuntu 16.04 on my lenovo t420; question:: just today under sound settings, i noticed that the option for headphone only output is gone.  how can i get it back?  thanks!
[04:59] <dfdghdfghgfhdfhd> i just want free money
[05:00] <ksft> Flannel: can you just ban them?
[05:01] <viableend> Hallo
[05:01] <khklhkljklkjlhlk> Hi
[05:01] <cfhowlett> viableend, greetings.  ask ubuntu questions
[05:02] <khklhkljklkjlhlk> So could someone just donate the money
[05:02] <khklhkljklkjlhlk> in bitcoin
[05:02] <ksft> Flannel: ^
[05:02] <anon__> khklhkljklkjlhlk:
[05:02] <Flannel> ksft: I'm aware.  Thanks.
[05:02] <ksft> just in case you weren't paying attention
[05:02] <evalde> Flannel is on top of the game
[05:03] <cfhowlett> ops are *always* watching.
[05:03] <arooni> n fact i dont see any other output options other than speakers... why not?
[05:03] <freemoney> i am feeling excluded from the free software community
[05:03] <freemoney> i just want free bitcoin
[05:03] <ksft> repeating my question from a little while ago:
[05:03] <ksft> I have an integrated Intel graphics card and a dedicated Nvidia one. When I have Nvidia drivers installed, I get a login loop. When I uninstall them, I can log in, but I can't use the
[05:03] <ksft>                  Nvidia graphics card.
[05:04] <viableend> I hope this is at least slightly on topic, but in your opinion whats the best way to get used to the bash and the command line
[05:04] <ksft> whoops, copied my client's line wrap as a newline
[05:04] <cfhowlett> viableend, use them often.  example: avoid the gui commands for update. use the command line: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:04] <Flannel> viableend: What do you mean by "get used to bash and the command line"?  Can you elaborate?
[05:05] <ijustreallylikel> how can i help ubuntu's work
[05:05] <ksft> ijustreallylikel: you can donate
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !contribute | ijustreallylikel
[05:05] <Sudolsnano> Donate
[05:05] <panpan> Anyone?
[05:05] <ijustreallylikel> but you haven't given me my free bitcoin yet
[05:05] <viableend> Well scripting for one, I use C++ on a very elementry basis but wrapping my head around real applications on my desktop is just different
[05:05] <ijustreallylikel> @freemoney
[05:06] <viableend> I understand it could make life easier but im not quite to the point of it making my life easier if that makes more sense
[05:06] <Ben64> ip address is always from a dedicated server ip, must be a bunch of exploited servers, or open proxies
[05:06] <ksft> Flannel: Should or have network ops be notified about the spammer?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> viableend, it does not
[05:06] <ksft> that sentence was not constructed well
[05:06] <daemon55> cfhowlett: the battery seems okay.
[05:07] <ksft> Should network ops be or have they been notified*
[05:07] <cfhowlett> viableend, never the less; gui is merely the pretty picture.  behind the scenes is a command line equivalent.  find it and use it and you will quickly learn.
[05:07] <Flannel> ksft: No and no.
[05:07] <cfhowlett> ksft, let #ops handle it.
[05:07] <Ben64> they're exploited servers, if anyone wants to send a bunch of abuse emails
[05:08] <cfhowlett> daemon55, got a replacement battery you can substitute?
[05:08] <viableend> Okay thank you very much, sorry for being incoherent, it's late here and I just wanted to use irssi
[05:08] <icanchatallday> hi
[05:08] <Flannel> viableend: viableend http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/ is what you're looking for.
[05:09] <viableend> I mean I am using it to chat right now
[05:09] <viableend> New to IRC
[05:09] <cfhowlett> viableend, do you have any other ubuntu questions?
[05:09] <ksft> viableend: Are you asking for help with bash or with Irssi?
[05:09] <daemon55> cfhowlett: i cant its internal.
[05:10] <cfhowlett> daemon55, dual booting?
[05:11] <daemon55> cfhowlett:i dont get why it does this on ubuntu it has worked fine on windows
[05:12] <jjyynnxx> Hi
[05:12] <Sudolsnano> Do you have any suggestions for a vpn supporting 1000/100 bandwith
[05:12] <jjyynnxx> Why isn't my graphics card working
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Sudolsnano: perhaps a question for ##networking?
[05:12] <Sudolsnano> jjyynnxx: what card are you using
[05:13] <jjyynnxx> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card/5330700.p?id=bb5330700&skuId=5330700
[05:13] <jjyynnxx> A friend of mine said it's good for bitcoin mining
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> jjyynnxx: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, he's trolling
[05:14] <Sudolsnano> lotuspsychje: his a troll
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> im not sure
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> 14.04
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> lts
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> i am not a troll
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> i just need help
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> with my graphics card
[05:14] <Ben64> confirmed troll
[05:14] <cfhowlett> kill it with fire
[05:14] <jjyynnxx> @Ben64 why so?
[05:14] <ksft> Flannel: come on, this is taking so long
[05:15] <Ben64> because you're the same troll who thinks they're good at trolling
[05:15] <ksft> Ben64: don't feed trolls
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> i literally just joined this chat
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> How am I a troll?
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> You can even check the IPs
[05:15] <jjyynnxx> This is the first time I've logged in
[05:16] <jjyynnxx> Is anyone going to help me
[05:16] <jjyynnxx> with my graphics card?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !patience | jjyynnxx
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> :(
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> how would you feel if I switched to fedora?
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> Would you be mad?
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> That i used their distro over yours?
[05:17] <Ben64> i'd be very happy
[05:17] <jjyynnxx> why?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> wouldn't care.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> jjyynnxx: please dont use other chat then support in this channel
[05:18] <ksft> hah
[05:18] <Sudolsnano> id celebrate
[05:18] <ksft> "You can even check the IPs"
[05:18] <jjyynnxx> what about xubuntu?
[05:18] <ksft> jjyynnxx: come on, you should be better than that
[05:18] <jjyynnxx> is xubuntu better
[05:18] <cfhowlett> ksft, please.  stop.
[05:18] <netvixtra> jjyynnxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:18] <tripelb> use /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:18] <ksft> If you had just joined, you wouldn't have known that trolls with different IP addresses had been here.
[05:18] <jjyynnxx> why?
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> I can figured out that there had been a problem
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> after you called me a troll
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> i know about networking and stuff
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> So i said to check the ip logs
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> So you could confirm i haven't been on before
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !ot | jjyynnxx
[05:19] <tripelb> !wifi jjyynnxx
[05:19] <Sudolsnano> to see the same ipv4 freenodes?
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> yes
[05:19] <Ben64> everyone stop, it's a troll. stop letting the troll waste your time.
[05:19] <tripelb> !wifi | jjyynnxx
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> i am not a troll
[05:19] <jjyynnxx> I just need help
[05:20] <jjyynnxx> with my graphics card
[05:20] <cfhowlett> Hexchat users: right click on the nick and then "ignore".  you will not see *anything* from him after that.
[05:21] <Sudolsnano> which was 1070 because you tought it was good for mining BTC? why are you @ubuntu
[05:21] <ksft> other IRC clients: "/ignore jjyynnxx"
[05:21] <jjyynnxx> @cfhowlett why are you so mean to me?
[05:21] <jjyynnxx> :'(
[05:22] <tripelb> Question: i want to install 16.04 on a separate partition and use the already existing /home partition AND NOT ERASE IT. Please advise.
[05:22] <Flannel> Ok guys, when you're "ignoring a troll", you need to actually stop responding completely.  Even if it's to agree with them that they should go away.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: the liveusb can choose to save your existing /home
[05:23] <ksft> I tried to do that, but come on
[05:23] <guest4345235234>  Is it possible to watch Netflix on Ubuntu?
[05:23] <ksft> that was such an obvious mistake
[05:23] <cfhowlett> guest4345235234, possible.  not easy.
[05:23] <guest4345235234> ok
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !netflix | guest4345235234
[05:23] <guest4345235234> how would i get started?
[05:23] <ksft> or possibly more trolling
[05:23] <ksft> I think I got it to work on Chrome
[05:23] <guest4345235234> my wife needs to borrow my laptop
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> guest4345235234: omgubuntu has a recent article about netflix and ubuntu also
[05:24] <guest4345235234> she says she needs to watch erotic films
[05:24] <Sudolsnano> guest4345235234:
[05:24] <Ben64> same troll again
[05:24] <Sudolsnano> same
[05:24] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: please tell me how. i installed once and got a home in the same partition.
[05:24] <cfhowlett> yep
[05:24] <Sudolsnano> freenodes
[05:24] <ksft> guest4345235234: just tested it
[05:24] <guest4345235234> ok
[05:24] <Flannel> sigh.
[05:24] <ksft> seems to work fine on Chrome
[05:24] <guest4345235234> So she can watch her films
[05:24] <guest4345235234> ?
[05:24] <guest4345235234> I don't want my wife to be mad
[05:25] <guest4345235234> she doesn't know much about linux
[05:25] <Flannel> guest4345235234: yes.
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !partioning | tripelb
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !partition
[05:25] <guest4345235234> @ksft Did you help my friend @freemoney??
[05:25] <ksft> wow that was fast
[05:26] <Flannel> Ben64, Sudolsnano: please stop announcing things like that.    But you cause problems by egging them on.
[05:26] <Flannel> If people are trying to get reactions, the worst thing you can do is react.
[05:27] <tripelb> ok lotuspsychje i have partitioned just fine. i have windows, windows backup, 14.04, /home, and 16.04
[05:27] <cfhowlett> as difficult as it is: ignore always works if you actually ignore.
[05:27] <fedoraisbetter> I think fedora is a better and nicer community
[05:27] <fedoraisbetter> tell me im wrong
[05:27] <fedoraisbetter> :P
[05:27] <tripelb> I want to make certain I do not erase the present existing /home lotuspsychje
[05:28] <bazhang> fedoraisbetter, lets take this chat out of the support channel please
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: if you choose to save your /home on the liveusb, it wont be erased
[05:28] <fedoraisbetter> why
[05:29] <Sudolsnano> tripelb: live installation has an option to save an existing /home directory aswell as encrypt it, is your /home on the same partition or how is it setup?
[05:30] <bazhang> fedoraisbetter, this is support only, not chit chat, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:31] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: when I partition there isnt a "save home" choice. i can designate the partition that has home on it as /home.  i am asking here becaise I want KNOWING assurance that it wont be reformatted.
[05:31] <fedoraisbetter> ok
[05:32] <tripelb> fedoraisbetter: #ubuntu-offtopic is useful.
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: usually the liveusb setup will leave you few choices, when you read closely it will tell you wich option will save your /home
[05:32] <panpan> Does ping/icmp need a port open for a network firewall?
[05:33] <tripelb> ok thank you lotuspsychje
[05:34] <evalde> I am getting a strange glitch where my wifi is not showing up as being connected yet i still clearly am.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: another wise option, is to make a backup before you proceed
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> evalde: ubuntu version?
[05:36] <evalde> ubuntu MATE
[05:36] <hateball> panpan: It needs to allow ICMP, period. There is also #networking
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> evalde: wich mate version?
[05:37] <evalde> 16.04
[05:37] <Sudolsnano> evalde: try sudo stop network-manager
[05:37] <evalde> will that end my wifi connection? just curious
[05:38] <Sudolsnano> evalde: or remove the nm entirely and reinstall
[05:38] <redengin> anyone know how to get pysvn to install under python3?
[05:38] <panpan> hateball, I use OVH, and I dont recall being able to allow certain protocols. Let me check once more
[05:38] <Sudolsnano> evalde: yes
[05:38] <evalde> i wouldn't know how to go about removing the nm
[05:38] <evalde> or restarting the mn once i use that command code
[05:38] <Ben64> panpan: ovh doesn't block anything
[05:39] <panpan> Ok dokey
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> evalde: does the wifi icon show?
[05:39] <evalde> it shows an empty outline of a "pizza" shape where the wifi bars would be
[05:39] <evalde> then when i click on it, no noticed wifi connections are listed, nothing is listed really
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> evalde: what kind of wifi chipset?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> evalde: are you up to date to 16.04.1?
[05:40] <evalde> i do not know, it has shown the bars before though. this problem only occurs when i open the laptop back up again after it has gone into sleep mode
[05:41] <evalde> i just setup the OS two days ago so I should be
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> evalde: yeah always keep your system up to date
[05:41] <fattyboomboom> hello
[05:41] <evalde> definitely, unless it has been updated since then we are good
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> evalde: can you make sure with lsb_release -a
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> evalde: there were networking issues when 16.04 came out with wifi icon/network manager
[05:43] <evalde> 16.04.1
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> kk
[05:43] <evalde> it says 16.04.1 under description but 16.04 under release
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> evalde: try a network-manager restart like Sudolsnano suggested
[05:43] <evalde> how do i restart after ending it
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> evalde: reboot
[05:44] <evalde> i can't do sudo start network-manager?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> evalde: sure
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> evalde: what kind of wifi chipset are you on?
[05:45] <evalde> i do not know
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> evalde: lshw -C network
[05:46] <evalde> stopping network manager brb
[05:46] <evalde> sudo stop command not found?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> evalde: systemctl
[05:46] <evalde> ?
[05:47] <evalde> i also ran -C network, what info are you interested in?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> evalde: the wchipset of your wifi
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> chipset
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> evalde: broadcom? intel? atheros?
[05:48] <evalde> intel
[05:48] <Sudolsnano> evalde: try sudo apt-get upgrade network-manager
[05:49] <Sudolsnano> evalde: are you running gnome or kde ?
[05:49] <evalde> ran that
[05:49] <evalde> nothing done
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> evalde: systemctl restart network-manager
[05:49] <evalde> idk about gnome or kde, whatever runs out OOTB with ubuntu MATE
[05:50] <evalde> i believe it is a gnome relative though
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !info network-manager
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> evalde: is this the network-manager version you having?
[05:50] <evalde> ok so i just restarted my network manager
[05:51] <evalde> and now the network indicator is not in the upper right at all
[05:51] <Sudolsnano> start it
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> evalde: try a reboot perhaps
[05:51] <evalde> i started it, nothing
[05:52] <evalde> the problem will be fixed upon reboot but it always starts happening again :/
[05:52] <evalde> but in the scheme of things, it isn't that horrible of a problem
[05:52] <Sudolsnano> evalde: reboot system if it doesnt appear, i suggest clean reinstall if if doesnt go away, theres something with 16.04, UEFI installation and nm
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> evalde: apt-cache policy network-manager to compare versions?
[05:52] <ImNotQ009> Hello, I seem to have a problem with the SSH agent on 14.04, when I try to add a key with 'ssh-add' I get the following error: 'Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. ' This is the output I get on 'ssh-agent': http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080529/ Any assistance, please?
[05:54] <evalde> i am having another big problem though. My chromium url bar is totally glitched out. it will be fixed upon reboot also but right now it is glitching out and flashing black. no other problems with accessing web pages or anything though, just a very annoying glitch making chromium unusable
[05:55] <evalde> @lotuspsychje just checked and the version is up to date
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> evalde: so your wifi issue only reproducable after lid closed?
[05:56] <evalde> yes. after the lid is closed and i have to login again, the wifi issue and the chrome issue happen simultaneously
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> evalde: chromium acting weird from the first time you installed?
[05:59] <evalde> yes
[05:59] <evalde> should i reinstall?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> evalde: if its glitching from your first setup, something else is a problem
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> evalde: perhaps try to check your additional drivers?
[06:00] <evalde> i just reinstalled it
[06:01] <evalde> alright let me check the drivers
[06:01] <evalde> i set everything to auto update though
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> evalde: and leave a tail -f /var/log/syslog open when you tuning stuff
[06:01] <evalde> i don't really understand
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> evalde: perhaps some usefull errors will arise
[06:01] <sanfusu> whois sanfusu
[06:02] <ImNotQ009> Figured it out, appears I forgot to do eval $(ssh-agent)
[06:02] <evalde> currently searching for additional drivers
[06:02] <evalde> the only additional driver listed is
[06:02] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: i asked in offtopic and they all warned me not to do it.
[06:02] <evalde> Unknown: Unknown
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: to do what exactly?
[06:04] <evalde> using processor microcode firmware for intel CPUs from intel-microcode (proprietary)
[06:04] <evalde> should i use that or no? ^
[06:04] <evalde> the other option is "do not use the device"
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> evalde: is it active or not?
[06:04] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: to use the same /home for two installations.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: you came here with the question to save your /home
[06:06] <Sudolsnano> tripelb: then backup and install clean, i suggest to partition your drive in 3 sections and have home in own partition
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: everyone uses another aproach for data..personally i save everything on external storage nothing in /home
[06:10] <tripelb> lotuspsychje: thanks again. i have to get up early so nitenite
[06:10] <orangespark> guys
[06:11] <orangespark> my toshiba external hard disk fell down and now it freezes the lap when i am trying to copy files from it
[06:11] <cfhowlett> orangespark, you dropped it?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> nothing ubuntu can do to fix a physical hardware issue.  if you need that data, strongly suggest you consult a data recovery service.
[06:12] <panpan> Hello, So i authorised ICMP on the network firewall, but I still can't ping in or out.. anything else i should try?
[06:12] <relyks> has anyone had a problems with wacom drivers in 16.04
[06:12] <relyks> ?
[06:12] <Ben64> panpan: how did you do that
[06:13] <relyks> or does anyone know of any issues? I've been having problems ::(
[06:13] <orangespark> @cfhowlett yes
[06:13] <orangespark> dropped it
[06:13] <orangespark> :(
[06:13] <cfhowlett> relyks, don't waste time with "... anyone ...".  state YOUR details and specs
[06:13] <relyks> cfhowlett: alright, that's a good point :D thanks
[06:14] <relyks> I'll gather them up
[06:14] <panpan> Ben64 - it was a configuration in the firewall option... tbh I never had a refuse on it either way
[06:14] <cfhowlett> happy2help! relyks
[06:14] <Ben64> orangespark: might be able to recover some stuff, drive might be dead forever
[06:14] <orangespark> drive is working but
[06:14] <Ben64> panpan: what firewall option where
[06:14] <orangespark> its detecting
[06:14] <orangespark> i think some files have got corrupted
[06:15] <cfhowlett> orangespark, until you get a for sure from your data recovery, unplug it and leave it unplugged.  if it's heading to failure, your attempts could accelerate the process.
[06:15] <relyks> cfhowlett: do you know what ubuntu uses for the wacom drivers? I think it'd be a better bet to just revert to a previous version of the drivers
[06:15] <cfhowlett> relyks, best to use the wacom site.  wait 1
[06:15] <panpan> Ben64 I can change / rufuse/ allow ports/protocols through the GUI provided to me by the host
[06:15] <orangespark> so what should i do
[06:16] <Ben64> orangespark: use ddrescue, rsync, data recovery service, or just use your backups
[06:16] <trijntje> orangespark: first unplug the device, then ask again ;)
[06:16] <Ben64> panpan: talk to them then
[06:16] <cfhowlett> orangespark, unplug i9t.  call data recovery.  see what they say.  they *should* say "we'll plug it and mirror it and see what's recoverable."
[06:16] <relyks> cfhowlett: like official wacom site? I was just about to take a look at linuxwacom
[06:16] <cfhowlett> or that ...
[06:16] <orangespark> so is there a data recovery center for toshiba
[06:17] <orangespark> i dont know what to do
[06:17] <trijntje> orangespark: unplug it
[06:17] <panpan> Ben64 - oh ok.. but is there other options I can try before doing  so?
[06:17] <Ben64> i'd try it myself first, data recovery is EXPENSIVE
[06:17] <orangespark> in the box its given 3 years limited warranty
[06:17] <orangespark> i have unplugged it
[06:17] <orangespark> in fact its at home
[06:17] <orangespark> :P
[06:17] <cfhowlett> orangespark, ah! so contact Toshiba.  "forget" to mention the drop though.
[06:17] <Ben64> panpan: well "GUI provided to me by the host" doesn't sound like anything involving ubuntu
[06:17] <orangespark> :D
[06:18] <orangespark> ya cfhwolett
[06:18] <Ben64> warranty almost never covers data
[06:18] <orangespark> thats okay
[06:18] <Ben64> they'll just send you a blank new drive
[06:18] <orangespark> still i want a hard disk
[06:18] <orangespark> its 2 TB
[06:18] <orangespark> :(
[06:18] <orangespark> i cant just loode it
[06:18] <orangespark> leave it like that
[06:19] <panpan> Ben64 - well I was only seeing if allowing icmp through the firewall would make a difference - Im aware if there are no rules set it is allows it by default
[06:19] <trijntje> orangespark: if you don't care about the data there's nothing we can do.
[06:19] <Ben64> panpan: anything in "sudo iptables -L -n" ?
[06:19] <trijntje> but I doubt dropping it is covered under your warranty
[06:19] <panpan> Ok hold ups
[06:19] <orangespark> i do
[06:20] <orangespark> its just that if the data is irrrecoverable
[06:20] <orangespark> then the second choice is of course and definitively to get a new hard disk
[06:20] <orangespark> :D
[06:20] <Ben64> it's probably at least partially recoverable, do that first
[06:23] <orangespark> the prob is i am unable to find a toshiba service center nearby
[06:23] <orangespark> i bought it through snapdeal
[06:23] <orangespark> so should i call snapdeal
[06:23] <orangespark> or the dealer who sold me or
[06:23] <Ben64> this is getting way offtopic
[06:23] <Ben64> toshiba.com has the answers
[06:24] <orangespark> is there an irc channel for toshiba
[06:24] <Ben64> unlikely
[06:24] <cfhowlett> but .. there IS a toshiba website.  shocking, I know ...
[06:27] <elky> cfhowlett: the snark is unnecessary, thanks.
[06:28] <soxa> hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook and ubuntu 16.04 on it, when I want to shutdown it it's just get stuck and won't turn off
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> soxa: sudo halt -p turns it off?
[06:31] <soxa> going to check it out one sec
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> soxa: F1 during studown can also reveal errors
[06:33] <orangespark> dude i tried it its useles
[06:33] <orangespark> toshiba site
[06:34] <orangespark> thats y i am asking  where i am possible to get a help
[06:34] <Ben64> really. toshiba.com
[06:34] <EriC^^> orangespark: tried what?
[06:35] <orangespark> toshiba website to apply for data recovery on any other way to repair my hard disk
[06:35] <orangespark> i dropped it and now i cant copy files
[06:36] <orangespark> copying freezes in between
[06:36] <soxa> hey I'm back sudo halt -p did not helped
[06:36] <EriC^^> orangespark: did you try manually mounting it?
[06:36] <orangespark> ya
[06:36] <orangespark> it mounts
[06:38] <EriC^^> orangespark: did you try running gddrescue a couple times to copy it to another hdd?
[06:40] <orangespark> and i can see the files also
[06:40] <orangespark> no
[06:40] <orangespark> actually the prob is its a 2tb hard disk
[06:41] <orangespark> thats the only hard disk i have
[06:41] <orangespark> even i have to do gddrescue i will need another hdd
[06:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[06:41] <EriC^^> if it's failing though the more you use it the more likely your data will be lost
[06:42] <EriC^^> you should try to ddrescue it asap
[06:42] <orangespark> so i was thinking of giving that hard disk to toshiba then
[06:42] <Ben64> if you give it to them, you lose all your data
[06:42] <orangespark> what
[06:42] <orangespark> chfwolett
[06:42] <orangespark> told me that there is a data recovery center
[06:43] <Ben64> please read more carefully
[06:43] <orangespark> they recover whatever is recoverable
[06:43] <EriC^^> orangespark: try ddrescue first, data recovery costs a lot of $$
[06:43] <orangespark> ohh
[06:44] <Rebelnet> hello
[06:45] <Rebelnet> so, i have a chromebook, i can't install any distro on via USB flash drive on boot up.
[06:46] <defacemind> hi
[06:46] <defacemind> Anyone here¿?
[06:46] <Ben64> 1860 people
[06:47] <defacemind> but online ?
[06:47] <Obadiah1> yes
[06:47] <defacemind> excelent my friends!
[06:47]  * Obadiah1 eats pie
[06:47] <defacemind> i dont speak much english
[06:47] <defacemind> anyone speak spanish ?
[06:47] <EriC^^> !sp | defacemind
[06:47] <Obadiah1> thats okay we still love you
[06:47] <EriC^^> !es | defacemind
[06:48] <Rebelnet> i need help. my brain hurts
[06:48] <defacemind> excelent, very thanks bro's!!
[06:48] <kexy> I used to have a boyfriend
[06:48] <kexy> named "Ubuntu" once
[06:48] <kexy> ...he would "play the bongos" on my ass.\
[06:48] <kexy> I used to have a boyfriend
[06:48] <kexy> named "Ubuntu" once
[06:48] <kexy> ...he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[06:48] <Obadiah1> video proof required
[06:49] <kexy> I used to have a boyfriend
[06:49] <Ben64> haven't seen that one for a while
[06:49] <defacemind> spam?
[06:49] <EriC^^> yes, it's a classic
[06:49] <defacemind> why ?
[06:49] <Rebelnet> wow someone is an op here
[06:49] <defacemind> how ?
[06:49] <EriC^^> good ol' bongo spam
[06:50] <defacemind> and this happens why?
[06:51] <defacemind> any script in the sistem?
[06:51] <Rebelnet> Mr. Robot
[06:51] <defacemind> but in ubuntu
[06:51] <Ben64> defacemind: people are bored, don't worry about it. if you want to chat to people, use #ubuntu-offtopic , this channel is for support only
[06:52] <Rebelnet> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[06:53] <EriC^^> !register | Rebelnet
[06:53] <defacemind> ok i need help, how show the initrd.img in my sistem, is comprimed not ? how descomprimed this?
[06:53] <EriC^^> defacemind: comprimed?
[06:54] <Rebelnet> does freenode use nickserv?
[06:54] <EriC^^> you want to see what's inside it?
[06:54] <EriC^^> Rebelnet: yes
[06:54] <Rebelnet> oh ic
[06:55] <Rebelnet> i'm installing ubuntu right now
[06:55] <Rebelnet> on my chromebook
[06:56] <defacemind> sorry my english is bad, the archive is in extention  img, how can i see the archive img?
[06:58] <stopRNM> Hello all online users ! How are u today?
[06:59] <defacemind> fine stopRNM
[06:59] <cfhowlett> stopRNM, aks your ubuntu question
[06:59] <defacemind> #ubuntu-es is dead
[06:59] <stopRNM> Do u understand my nickname?
[06:59] <defacemind> nothing there
[07:00] <cfhowlett> stopRNM, do you have an UBUNTU question??
[07:01] <stopRNM> Another question. How can we stop RNM(remote neural monitoring)????
[07:01] <Renon> the pseudo is the question
[07:01] <Renon> how deep
[07:01] <cfhowlett> stopRNM,  nothing to do with ubuntu.  suggestion you try somewhere else
[07:01] <stopRNM> They read my mind.  Exist ubuntu for smartphone??
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !touch | stopRNM
[07:04] <stopRNM> I use android but i think is no good...
[07:06] <stopRNM> Thank you for help!  Installing Ubuntu for the first time. I have 2 SSD’s, one is 120GB and one is 240GB. I was thinking I would us the 120GB as my boot drive and my 240GB for my home directory.
[07:17] <stan_man_can> However, not sure how to set this up in the installer
[07:18] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, during the partition stage, you can manually select targets.  set /home on your 240 and / on your 120
[07:18] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: in the Something else menu, make a ext4 with mountpoint "/" on the first ssd, and in the second ssd make a ext4 partition with mountpoint /home
[07:18] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: are those the only mount points I need? / and home?
[07:18] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: are you using uefi?
[07:19] <stan_man_can> previously with fedora I think it was creating a /swap and /boot as well
[07:19] <stan_man_can> EriC^^:  not sure… how can I find out?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, you might consider adding /swap.  /boot might be triggered if you are on uefi.  your partitioner will tell you is so.
[07:19] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: are you in the live session right now?
[07:19] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: I can be one sec
[07:20] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: you only typically need swap if you want hibernation
[07:20] <EriC^^> anything like 4g or something of ram is enough for ubuntu
[07:20] <researcher123> I tried to format my pen drive but its failing repeatedly. Here is the error message https://imagebin.ca/v/2sX1QIBy9J1e . Please help
[07:20] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: “something of ram”, do you mean equal to my ram?
[07:20] <Tin_man> soxa, don't know..
[07:20] <stan_man_can> EriC^^:  aright in a live session now
[07:20] <cfhowlett> researcher123, try a different stick
[07:21] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: ok open a terminal and type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[07:21] <researcher123> cfhowlett: but I want to use it
[07:21] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: there’s stuff in there
[07:22] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: ok that means your booted in uefi mode, so you need a fat32 efi partition too
[07:22] <EriC^^> 300mb in size
[07:22] <EriC^^> in the first ssd that has "/"
[07:22] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, thought the recommended size was 500mb?
[07:23] <stan_man_can> if i have a nvidia video card should I be checking off “Install third-party sfotware for graphics and wifi ...."
[07:23] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, couldn't hurt
[07:23] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: i guess so, it really only uses like 40mb or something
[07:23] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: thanks
[07:23] <cfhowlett> happy2help! stan_man_can
[07:24] <researcher123> I tried to format my pen drive but its failing repeatedly. Here is the error message https://imagebin.ca/v/2sX1QIBy9J1e . Please help
[07:24] <soxa> hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook with ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to shut it down it just hangs
[07:24] <stan_man_can> Having a hard time deciding if I should be using my 120GB for boot and 240 for home, or the other way around
[07:24] <stan_man_can> steam stores games in your home directory yeah?
[07:24] <soxa> yes
[07:25] <soxa> but you can chose tho'
[07:25] <stan_man_can> EriC^^:  Weird, this time arround I got a bit of a funky error
[07:26] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: 120gb for boot definitely
[07:26] <stan_man_can> THis machiens firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using “BIOS compatibility mode”. If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode, it might be difficult to reboot the machine into any BIOS-mode operating systems later. If you wish to install in UEFI ode and don’t care a bout keeping the abilit to boot one of the xisting systems, you have the option to forc
[07:26] <stan_man_can> that here. If you wish to keep the option to boot an existing operating system, you should choose NOT to force UEFI installation here.
[07:27] <stan_man_can> options are “Go Back” or “Continue in UEFI mode"
[07:27] <stan_man_can> my guess is continue in uefi mode, but just wanted to verify
[07:27] <EriC^^> stan_man_can: yeah
[07:27] <EriC^^> it probably detected the msdos partition table on the other ssd or something
[07:28] <stan_man_can> kk
[07:28] <stan_man_can> Alrighty so installation type, erase disk and install ubuntu, or soemthing else?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, something else
[07:29] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: and then I just remove all the existing partitions and create my new ones?
[07:29] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, indeed
[07:29] <stan_man_can> uefi doesn’t look like a mount point?
[07:29] <cfhowlett> uefi is not a mount point
[07:30] <EriC^^> you just choose efi partition as type i think
[07:30] <stan_man_can> OH
[07:30] <stan_man_can> sorry yeah you’re right
[07:30] <stan_man_can> so that’s the first one, 500MB primary beginning of this space EFI System partition
[07:31] <stan_man_can> how big should /boot be ?
[07:31] <EriC^^> no need for it
[07:31] <stan_man_can> oh ok
[07:32] <stan_man_can> EriC^^: /swap isn’t even an option
[07:32] <EriC^^> swap is a type too
[07:33] <EriC^^> i think as the filesystem format
[07:33] <stan_man_can> i’m on fire today
[07:33] <stan_man_can> and that should be primary or logical?
[07:33] <EriC^^> logical is ok
[07:35] <stan_man_can> and then / will be logical, ext4, and take up the rest of the space
[07:35] <stan_man_can> ??
[07:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:35] <stan_man_can> and my home directory will be the full size of sdb, primary, ext4 ?
[07:36] <EriC^^> 120gb is huge though
[07:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:36] <EriC^^> i guess you could still fill it up with your data somehow
[07:36] <stan_man_can> i guess so but i already have 240GB for my home directory and I have a 2TB mechanical drive ill be plugging in for storage
[07:36] <EriC^^> the system itself with a bunch of programs installed wouldn't reach 20gb i guess
[07:37] <stan_man_can> lol
[07:37] <stan_man_can> dang really?
[07:37] <EriC^^> it's 8-9gb default
[07:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:37] <stan_man_can> oh well i guess
[07:37] <stan_man_can> it keeps it nice and separated for me
[07:38] <stan_man_can> i tried using LVM in fedora and it ran for a while but i really had no mental understanding of what was going on with my drives which i didn’t like
[07:38] <stan_man_can> at least this way i know if a drive dies i know exactly whats going with it
[07:38] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:38] <EriC^^> you can always make a dir somewhere like /data or something and make a symlink in your home dir to it and put stuff in it
[07:38] <stan_man_can> yeah
[07:39] <EriC^^> or backup your /home to it
[07:39] <EriC^^> that way if one ssd fails you're still good
[07:39] <stan_man_can> already so i got dev/sda1 efi 499MB (set it to 500, nto sure why it did 499”, i have /dev/sda5 sqap 8192 mb, /dev/sda6 ext4 / 111339mb
[07:39] <stan_man_can> then /dev/sdb1 et4 /home
[07:39] <stan_man_can> 250058mb
[07:39] <stan_man_can> device for boot loader installation: /dev/sda
[07:40] <EriC^^> ok
[07:40] <stan_man_can> neat
[07:40] <stan_man_can> thanks man that’s a ton of help
[07:40] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:40] <Guest3728> hi just installed Ubuntu mate on a hp pavilion dv6700 but I got no sound
[07:41] <stan_man_can> “Encrypt my home folder”, any point? does it slow anything down much?
[07:41] <EriC^^> doesn't really slow anything down, it's up to you
[07:41] <stan_man_can> nevermind pretend i didn’t ask, i know that’s a super personal question
[07:41] <stan_man_can> personal as in, up to the individual
[07:41] <EriC^^> it does make stuff more complicated though, just a tad
[07:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:41] <Sudolsnano> stan_man_can: i suggest doing so if your plannin on storing files in /home
[07:44] <stan_man_can> i opted to encrypt
[07:44] <Pam> hi
[07:45] <Pam> hi all
[07:45] <BitKid> Hello, can someone help me with installing ubuntu? It has been around 2 weeks now and every proposed attempt has failed so far
[07:46] <lion5507> are you installing on laptop
[07:46] <lion5507> or like usb
[07:46] <BitKid> It is not the os, even fedora is not working
[07:46] <lion5507> oh
[07:46] <BitKid> desktop have both options
[07:47] <BitKid> I did however find something not sure how to fix it ill past it
[07:47] <sonicx> hi just installed Ubuntu mate on a hp pavilion dv6700 but I got no sound
[07:47] <BitKid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23080658/
[07:48] <BitKid> so the drivers for the GPU are not found,
[07:48] <BitKid> but lsusb wont show anything no matter how long I wait.
[07:49] <BitKid> Is there a way to find out why the installation keeps crashing? raw data kind of thing?
[07:49] <Pam_> hi hwang
[07:49] <EriC^^> hi Pam_
[07:49] <Pam_>  hi tsia
[07:49] <Pam_> asl plz
[07:49] <Pam_> 15 f here
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Pam_, what is your ubuntu question??
[07:50] <venkat_330> I want to Access a USB device under Non - Privileged user with FTDI2XX Driver . Under root working as expected but under normal user not able to access the device.  Need guidance
[07:51] <_l_k_z_m> venkat_330, can you change permissions with chmod on the device?
[07:52] <BitKid> can anyone pelase give me a hand with my issue?
[07:53] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: I ma not able to find the exact path for the device ,,, I remove existing usbserial driver using rmmod and using ftdi library call to access device.  If you could tell me how to find that might might check and update
[07:53] <cfhowlett> BitKid, reboot the USB.  choose "try ubuntu".  then launch the installer.  after the crash, logs will be viewable.
[07:53] <fireball```> BitKid, can you boot livedvd or crashing live too
[07:54] <_l_k_z_m> venkat_330, is it in /dev?
[07:54] <BitKid> crashing on both fireball ,so i can run the gui instaltion now since after install fail I come to a desktop trial enviorment
[07:55] <_l_k_z_m> google the filesystem description... i would but my computer is too slow
[07:55] <BitKid> or will the result be diffrent cfhowlett?
[07:55] <BitKid> if i do the trial version then install vs current condtion
[07:55] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: No generally when I plug in it will pop as ttyUSBO.Since i use FTDI i forcefully remove it,,
[07:56] <cfhowlett> BitKid, you need to see the logs for anything other than wild guesses. booting the livecd > try ubuntu > installer crash [07:56] <_l_k_z_m> venkat_330, odd I have no clue what that is... tty doesn't stand for telitype?
[07:57] <BitKid> ok cfhowlett I will come back in the IRC after I reach that point
[07:57] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: It is serial port device.
[07:58] <fireball```> BitKid, do you know which video card you have?
[08:02] <ImNotQ009> Well... I kinda accidentally did chmod -R 777 / instead of ./
[08:02] <ImNotQ009> Now I broke a few things, like sudo
[08:03] <ImNotQ009> What's the best way to fix this without having to do a full reinstall?
[08:03] <AndreasCosmo> Sorry for interupting. Hopefully simple question: Is there a way to find the max and min values in a Projection Plot? I'm not a fan of colorbars with only one tick mark so I want to set the range manually.
[08:04] <soxa> hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook with ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to shut it down it just hangs
[08:04] <AndreasCosmo> ugh.. wrong channel.. sorry guys
[08:05] <cfhowlett> ImNotQ009, reinstall.
[08:06] <soxa> done still not work
[08:09] <cfhowlett> soxa, this is a busy channel. refresh our memory
[08:09] <stan_man_can> so I have an nvidia gtx-960, how can i see if the drivers are installed properly?
[08:09] <stan_man_can> just opened up mincraft and got 12FPS so  I think somethings off
[08:10] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, system > additional drivers should show it I think
[08:10] <soxa> cfhowlett: hey somebody can help me I have a lenovo B50 notebook with ubuntu 16.04 and when I try to shut it down it just hangs
[08:11] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: ah, it says it was using x.org x server
[08:11] <stan_man_can> i assume i should select using nvidia binary driver ?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, actually you should have an app to switch.  see if the dash brings up "nvidia" stuff.
[08:12] <stan_man_can> nothing when is search
[08:12] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, could be you did not install then.
[08:13] <stan_man_can> probably not; i didnt’ do anything really
[08:14] <stan_man_can> just installed ubuntu and updated it; prior to install i selected that “downlaod third party drivers” box but that’s it
[08:14] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, try additional drivers app again
[08:14] <cfhowlett> see if it offers alternatives
[08:15] <tomreyn> whenever i power up my computer (running xubuntu 16.04), audio goes to the headphones (whether or not they are plugged in). but i need it to go to line out by default. where can i configure this?
[08:16] <sonicx> hp dv6700 sound card not working
[08:19] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: within System Settings => Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[08:19] <cfhowlett> I think so stan_man_can
[08:20] <stan_man_can> Under my GPU I had two options, “Using X.Org X Server - Nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (open source)” was selected
[08:20] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, or the shortcut: dpkg -l | grep nvidia*
[08:20] <stan_man_can> I changed it to “Uusing NVIDIA Binary driver - version 361.42 from nvidia-361 (proprietary, tested)” and it worked
[08:20] <cfhowlett> yep
[08:20] <stan_man_can> it installed some stuff first, i rebooted, and now the FPS is fixed
[08:20] <cfhowlett> :)
[08:20] <stan_man_can> thanks :)
[08:21] <cfhowlett> congrats!  you are now officially an ubuntu guru!  spread the word.
[08:21] <stan_man_can> hahaha
[08:21] <stan_man_can> and that kids, is how ubuntu got a bad rep
[08:23] <Bomber4Chats> Nvidia xorg.conf issue - no screens found
[08:23] <Bomber4Chats> I can't simply delete xorg.conf and hope it resets itself, right?
[08:24] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: you dotn need a xorg.conf unless you make specific tweaks
[08:24] <Bomber4Chats> Nope
[08:24] <Bomber4Chats> So may I delete it?
[08:24] <hateball> yes
[08:25] <Bomber4Chats> And Nvidia or what not wont cry?
[08:25] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Nope, it shouldnt
[08:26] <Bomber4Chats> K, I need to see if reboot works, because restarting mdm after removing xorg.conf didn't help
[08:27] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett: do you run plex by any chance?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> not that I know of ...
[08:28] <Bomber4Chats> hateball, still no screens found error
[08:29] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: What has changed between your system working as intended and now?
[08:29] <Bomber4Chats> I installed Nvidia driver 375
[08:29] <Bomber4Chats> 375.35
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> Sorry
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> 367.35*
[08:30] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Manually? Or using PPA?
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> Manually
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> I'm unaware of a ppa for installing 365
[08:30] <Bomber4Chats> 367*
[08:30] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Purge the manual install, use this instead https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:31] <Bomber4Chats> Please remind me the command to add ppa?
[08:31] <hateball> I had some weird issues with 367 (blank sddm screen) that are gone in 370
[08:31] <hateball> Bomber4Chats: Read the information on the page
[08:35] <Bomber4Chats> There's probably a reason why I can't see the 370 driver
[08:44] <goo> My opendkim replaces the subject with [myorigin] Original Subject - how can I stop it from doing that?
[08:46] <goo> Never mind. Postfix does it with header_checks
[08:47] <huesaurus> I'm trying to daisy chain 2 monitors, how do I enable DP 1.2 for them in ubuntu ?
[08:49] <huesaurus> or am i going about it the wrong way ?
[08:50] <electro> which is the best app to share local files in ubuntu ???
[08:53] <huesaurus> electro, nautilus-share ?
[09:07] <huesaurus> Anyone knows how I can daisy chain 2 monitors on ubuntu? :)
[09:08] <huesaurus> don't have much experience with xrandr etc
[09:13] <ducasse> huesaurus: won't the monitors and the adapter handle that automatically?
[09:17] <huesaurus> ducasse: what do you mean
[09:17] <huesaurus> basically, its a lenovo yoga laptop, and 2 dell monitors
[09:18] <huesaurus> doesn't seep to be finding the third monitor
[09:18] <Ben64> how are they connected
[09:18] <ducasse> huesaurus: can you pastebin the output of xrandr?
[09:18] <huesaurus> lenovo is connected to monitor #1 with a micro HDMI cable, and they are chained with a display port cable
[09:19] <Ben64> thats not how anything works
[09:19] <huesaurus> http://pastebin.com/raw/matSUBhD
[09:19] <huesaurus> Ben64: lol
[09:20] <denger_> quit
[09:21] <huesaurus> uh, what am I missing Ben64 :/
[09:21] <ducasse> huesaurus: you would need a dp output
[09:22] <huesaurus> shieeeet
[09:24] <Guest63456> can someone help me
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest63456
[09:25] <huesaurus> !patience
[09:27] <Guest63456> i just installed Ubuntu mate and I fixed every thing els but I cant get the  sound to work
[09:27] <MacroMan_away> I'm putting a package on hold in dpkg because I'm rolling my own version, which prevents apt from updating it. Problem is, each time I install a new version it resets the hold selection back to install. Is there a better way to handle this?
[09:28] <bazhang> MacroMan, with pinning?
[09:30] <spartan2276> How can I get Apache2 SSL server to accept non ssl. As of now I'm getting a 400 Bad Request error. So all I want is for apache to let me use http and https at the same time.
[09:30] <Shadow_aok> hi
[09:31] <Shadow_aok> i'm having an issue with my ubuntu 14.04.4 lxc container and libc-bin which end broken each time i ran dpkg-reconfigure -a : http://pastebin.com/gQg5VV1S
[09:31] <Shadow_aok> fixing and reinstall it, it's fine, then dpkg-reconfigure -a and it ends with it being broken
[09:31] <MacroMan> bazhang, Thanks. I've been reading into that, but I can only seem to find info on holding to a specific version, which gives the same problem when I install a new version.
[09:32] <bazhang> MacroMan, why install a new version if you want only the older one
[09:33] <MacroMan> I want to install a version that I've repackaged. If I don't hold it, apt will overwrite my installation from the repo
[09:33] <bazhang> MacroMan, so you want something akin to a PPA
[09:34] <MacroMan> bazhang, Yes, but that seems overkill for one package
[09:34] <bazhang> whats the package MacroMan
[09:34] <MacroMan> nginx-core
[09:34] <MacroMan> I'm adding the pagespeed module from Google which requires rebuilding it.
[09:35] <bazhang> thats for you to decide MacroMan on what degree of trouble etc
[09:35] <kdjrand> hello
[09:35] <kdjrand> wha is the name of the gpg package on ubuntu?? i want to remove it??
[09:35] <kdjrand> anyone??
[09:35] <kdjrand> anyone??
[09:36] <bazhang> kdjrand, is there an issue disk space
[09:37] <MacroMan> kdjrand, gpgv
[09:37] <OerHeks> no gpg, no updates ..
[09:37] <OerHeks> LoLz
[09:37] <OerHeks> no packages ..
[09:38] <MacroMan> kdjrand, Tip, use the tab key to try autocompleting package names. If you press tab twice you'll get a full list of matching packages.
[09:38] <mcphail> MacroMan: any reason you are packaging it? If you simply build and install under the /usr/local prefix, your custom binaries and libraries will be used in preference to the package manager's binaries, as /usr/local/bin comes before /usr/bin in the default $PATH
[09:39] <MacroMan> mcphail, This is a new concept to me. Atm I'm using `dpkg --install nginx*.deb` to install it. How can I specify to use /usr/local/bin?
[09:40] <mcphail> MacroMan: any reason you are building to a .deb file?
[09:41] <MacroMan> mcphail, It's the only route I really know tbh. I learnt by following tutorials.
[09:42] <MacroMan> Plus it's very easy. Just calling `dpkg-buildpackage -b` builds new .deb files
[09:42] <mcphail> MacroMan: easiest way is to keep any package management out of the equation. Most build systems such as autotools or cmake have options to set the prefix at teh configuration stage
[09:42] <mcphail> MacroMan: what method is used to build your package?
[09:42] <MacroMan> dpkg-buildpackage -b
[09:43] <kLOs> can anyone tell me why with 16.04 service apache2 restart doesn't deliver any notifications anymore on commandline?
[09:43] <kLOs> on 14.04 i got an [OK}
[09:43] <mcphail> MacroMan: aah - so you're using a debian/ubuntu source tree and tweaking the built components?
[09:44] <kLOs> now its nothing even when it fails to reastart
[09:44] <MacroMan> So my install goes like so: `apt-get source nginx`, add `--add-module=etc` to debian/rules and then dpkg-buildpackage -b
[09:44] <nackas123> hi ther
[09:44] <MacroMan> mcphail, So I'm not building entirely from source
[09:45] <MacroMan> I've read stuff about adding my own version number, but I'm not really sure where to start
[09:46] <blackline> hi
[09:47] <mcphail> MacroMan: the key would be to edit the configuration in debian/rules, I think, to change the prefix (and, if you wanted, the package name) so it wouldn't clash with the ubuntu package. But that seems horribly arcane and fragile
[09:48] <MacroMan> Reading this answer seems to indicate I can change the version number with dpkg-dev-el: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138188/easily-unpack-deb-edit-postinst-and-repack-deb/138190
[09:49] <julie__> ok maybe this will help how to install NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio driver in Ubuntu
[09:50] <pandaadb> Hi - I am still trying to get screen tearing when scrolling/video under control on my precission 5510. I feel like I have tried everything else and I am now thinking of upgrading the kernel from 4.4 - 4.6. Is that save to do? Could that solve the issue?
[09:51] <mcphail> MacroMan: if you are going to go down the pdkg route, your initial plan to use apt holding would b a better idea
[09:51] <mcphail> *dpkg
[09:52] <mcphail> MacroMan: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction_to_Holding_Packages ?
[09:53] <MacroMan> mcphail, Yes. tbh it kind of went over my head.
[09:53] <MacroMan> I'm just looking at the deb-reversion program which looks interesting: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/deb-reversion.1.html
[09:56] <mcphail> MacroMan: that is still and attempt to defeat the package manager, rather than working with it...#
[09:57] <MacroMan> mcphail, Plus it looks like it'll re-package it again, which seems very wasteful of resources. Thanks for your advice. Think I'll stick with holding the package for now.
[09:58] <mcphail> MacroMan: yes - if you work with deb packages you have to prepare to do things the way dpkg or apt want you to work
[09:58] <mcphail> MacroMan: good luck
[09:58] <MacroMan> mcphail, Thanks.
[09:59] <blackbird1> Hi
[09:59] <blackbird1> I have a bizarre problem in Bash
[10:06] <neurot> blackbird1 just ask
[10:09] <JediMaster> hi guys, I've got a CIFS mount on a server that seems to get disconnected in some way (it's Azure, ugh!) in such a way that if you try and access it in any way (e.g. ls, or even bash autocomplete) that it feezes the terminal, can't ctrl-c etc.
[10:09] <JediMaster> Is there any way to check if the connection has frozen without freezing up the command to check it?
[10:10] <JediMaster> I can recover it by "umount -l" then remounting it, and I want to automate this, but doing a simple test to see if a known file exists freezes
[10:12] <JediMaster> I guess I could run the file check in the background, get the PID, check after a few seconds if it's still running, and remount it if it is
[10:12] <JediMaster> but it's not a very elegant solution =)
[10:13] <mcphail> JediMaster: can you use the same "~." trick one uses with dropped/frozen ssh connections to free the terminal?
[10:21] <JediMaster> mcphail, I'm not aware of that one, what ~. trick is that?
[10:21] <lopa> hi
[10:22] <bstarek> JediMaster, can you give us a better explanation of your issue please
[10:22] <mcphail> JediMaster: If you are on an ssh connection which drops, pressing "<Enter>~." can unfreeze the terminal. Does that work when you are accessing your CIFS mount and the connection drops? Don't know if the magic is purely with ssh
[10:23] <JediMaster> bstarek, CIFS share gets disconnected in some way, causing any access of the share to freeze, e.g. "ls", I want to be able to test if the share has frozen so I can automate a remount
[10:23] <mcphail> JediMaster: having done a bit of googling in the meantime, I suspect there isn't a good workaround for your problem: even the ubuntu documentation comments on the CIFS "black hole"
[10:24] <JediMaster> mcphail, that does sound like an ssh trick rather than terminal related
[10:25] <JediMaster> mcphail, heh, that doesn't surprise me, I think I may just have to try the backgrounded process idea to check if a file exists, if the process doesn't finish in a timely fashion, kill it off and remount
[10:25] <mandla> hi, i long asked for help regarding this error To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.0 or greater is installed.
[10:25] <mcphail> JediMaster: yes - even the arch users seem to struggle with this one, and they can generally coax _antything_ into submission ;)
[10:25] <mandla> how do i get adobe flash player installed on Ubuntu 16.04
[10:25] <mandla> :(
[10:26] <bstarek> JediMaster, a workaround would be re-mouting it using "crontab" every X time for example, but that wouldnt "solve" your problem
[10:26] <hateball> mandla: use chromium/chrome with the pepperflash
[10:26] <JediMaster> mandla, have you tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.html
[10:26] <hateball> mandla: Adobe has dropped Linux support for Flash so the latest npapi (Firefox) version is 11.2
[10:26] <bstarek> JediMaster, Why CIFS? have you tried NFS?
[10:26] <OerHeks> mandla, there is no newer <IP_ADDRESS>2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:26] <OerHeks> goodluck
[10:28] <JediMaster> bstarek, there are lots of processes that are dependant on it, so forcibly remounting it every X minutes is going to cause even more problems =/
[10:28] <cuaox> hi, anyone can help with this -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/812244/games-freezing-after-some-time-on-steam-audio-works-can-move-coursor-around
[10:29] <mandla> Thanks gentleman
[10:29] <bstarek> JediMaster, remounting it only take a second, your processes wont die
[10:29] <Ben64> JediMaster: you really need to fix the problem instead of trying to hack around it
[10:30] <mandla> Thanks gentlemen
[10:30] <JediMaster> Ben64, the problem is Microsoft Azure, that's not within my fixing abilities =)
[10:31] <Ben64> you don't know that
[10:31] <bstarek> Ben64, TRUE
[10:31] <JediMaster> Ben64, technically I could, by moving away from them, but it's not my choice I'm afraid
[10:31] <Ben64> you don't know that the problem is with azure specifically
[10:31] <Ben64> it could be your end
[10:32] <JediMaster> Ben64, it is, it's a known networking problem
[10:32] <bstarek> JediMaster, So let me try to understand the situation, you are ssh-ing into a linux vm, which is CIFS connected to azure share?
[10:32] <Ben64> source?
[10:33] <bstarek> JediMaster, try to link your azzure share to another VM please
[10:33] <JediMaster> Ben64, Microsoft's networking stack, it's caused a lot of other problems, some to do with the hypervisors
[10:33] <cuaox> so, anyone can help?
[10:33] <cuaox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/812244/games-freezing-after-some-time-on-steam-audio-works-can-move-coursor-around
[10:33] <cuaox> with this?
[10:33] <Ben64> JediMaster: sounds like you're making stuff up
[10:33] <JediMaster> bstarek, we've got about 30 VMs with them, on different hypervisors, in different DCs, with different OSs, all of them experience the problem and various times
[10:34] <blackbird1> !paste
[10:34] <JediMaster> bstarek, yes
[10:34] <bstarek> cuaox, try this https://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/46476691351873631/
[10:35] <JediMaster> bstarek, remote VM, on Azure, connecting to Azure CIFS share
[10:35] <Ben64> sounds like you need to contact azure support then
[10:35] <JediMaster> multiple machines, some on Ubuntu, come on (ugh) Centos, different kernel versions, some will work for days without a problem then freeze up until the CIFS share is remounted
[10:36] <JediMaster> Ben64, have done, weeks ago
[10:36] <JediMaster> they haven't come up with a solution yet, so I need a workaround
[10:36] <bstarek> JediMaster, try this http://serverfault.com/questions/622238/linux-cifs-samba-mount-hangs-for-several-minutes
[10:36] <Ben64> stop using them
[10:36] <JediMaster> not my choice
[10:36] <JediMaster> client has prepaid for a year
[10:36] <JediMaster> yeah, I know
[10:38] <blackbird1> neurot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081134/  --> $msg become empty just before if [[ $msg =~ ^.*windows.*$ ]]
[10:38] <JediMaster> bstarek, that's an interesting find, a sort of keepalive trick
[10:39] <bstarek> JediMaster, it looks like your azure share disconnects randomly
[10:40] <JediMaster> yeah, it could well be inactivity, but there are certainly machines that aren't actively using it that don't get disconnected after long periods, so not 100% convinced it will work
[10:40] <JediMaster> The fact is we're only getting 5-10Mbps of bandwidth to the share, so it really sucks anyhow
[10:41] <bstarek> thats very low
[10:41] <JediMaster> yeah, especially from an Azure VM to Azure share
[10:41] <JediMaster> I have a feeling it's not even in the same country
[10:42] <JediMaster> either that or it's seriously over-subscribed
[10:42] <JediMaster> or both
[10:42] <bstarek> not being in the same country does not bother
[10:42] <JediMaster> Azure feels like a beta test to me
[10:42] <JediMaster> bstarek, well it reduces the likelyhood of it having multiple 10Gbps pipes to the hypervisors
[10:43] <bstarek> personnaly i don't know anyone (except you) on Azure cloud
[10:43] <JediMaster> which our own SAN has (4x 10GBps)
[10:43] <JediMaster> bstarek, there's a good reason for that =)
[10:44] <JediMaster> trouble is, people hear "Microsoft" and go "Oh I've heard of them, lets spend lots there, I'm sure it'll work"
[10:44] <bstarek> JediMaster, I feel like they rushed it :)
[10:44] <JediMaster> they did
[10:44] <Ben64> well, none of this is Ubuntu support, there is ##azure with 11 people in there if you want to talk about Azure
[10:44] <bstarek> JediMaster, I know that Amazon is doing well with its AWS
[10:45] <bstarek> JediMaster, I know people happy with their services/uptime
[10:45] <JediMaster> Ben64, no, but my original question was, in Ubuntu, how do you check to see if a file mount is responsive without freezing up the check
[10:45] <bstarek> JediMaster, look, try to connect your CIFS share to a VM outside Azure
[10:45] <Ben64> JediMaster: and the answer is to fix the problem, not find a hack
[10:46] <JediMaster> Ben64, I think we've established there's no easy way to do that, so hack is the only option at the moment
[10:46] <bstarek> Ben64, we are all trying to help and investigate my fiend.
[10:46] <Ben64> JediMaster: no, you've already given up
[10:46] <JediMaster> Ben64, it's lack of time, it needs a fix now, not a several month investgiation (which will likely happen after so that is is properly fixed)
[10:47] <Ben64> fix now = stop using azure
[10:47] <bstarek> JediMaster, as i told you earlier, connect your share to another vm outisde azure
[10:48] <JediMaster> Ben64, the project has taken 6 months to set up (not by myself, we've been given it to support), it goes live this week, so hence quick fix required. It's not actually critical to stop things going live, it's just causing minor problems, but don't have the time to move the entire project to another platform (which I have already suggested)
[10:48] <JediMaster> bstarek, we may well do, but again, it's pre-paid for a year =/
[10:49] <Ben64> i think bstarek suggested that as a test
[10:49] <bstarek> JediMaster, it is just for test
[10:49] <bstarek> Ben64, thanks
[10:49] <JediMaster> Ah ok, that's a good idea, at least we can show that it's not the OS doing it
[10:49] <bstarek> JediMaster, maybe your VM is the problem, not the share
[10:50] <JediMaster> bstarek, we've not completely eliminated that, but given multiple VMs, OSs & Hypervisors and the same problem it's likely that it isn't that
[10:51] <bstarek> JediMaster, give logs and report it to azure support
[10:51] <JediMaster> yeah, still doesn't get the problem resolved this week though heh
[10:51] <bstarek> maybe it will
[10:52] <bstarek> what choices do you have?
[10:52] <Ben64> maybe continuing to do nothing will fix it then
[10:52] <JediMaster> write a script that will reconnect once every 2-3 days that is falls over
[10:52] <JediMaster> that seems like a pretty quick fix
[10:52] <JediMaster> s/fix/workaround/
[10:53] <JediMaster> Ben64, I'm not, I've reported the problem and I am actively writing a script to auto reconnect as a temporary workaround, hence the question in the first place =)
[10:54] <JediMaster> bstarek, I'll try the keepalive idea and connecting to an external CIFS mount as a test in the meanwhile
[10:54] <Ben64> http://i.imgur.com/6Q6dx5t.png
[10:54] <blackbird1> Guys I need your help for this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081160/
[10:55] <JediMaster> So, on a completely unrelated note, how do you test if a mount is responding without freezing the test/script up? =)
[10:56] <blackbird1> This my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081162/
[10:56] <geirha> blackbird1: msg probably contains some whitespace, possibly CRs
[10:57] <geirha> blackbird1: run the script with -x to see what it is actually comparing
[10:57] <bstarek> JediMaster, Just "touch file" and rm file for example
[10:57] <geirha> blackbird1: e.g.  bash -x yourscript   or  put  ''set -x'' on a line before the part you want to debug
[10:57] <MacroMan> Is there an environment variable I can use in a bash script to get the current user?
[10:57] <bstarek> MacroMan, w
[10:57] <MacroMan> w?
[10:57] <bstarek> yes, w
[10:57] <JediMaster> bstarek, trouble is that "touch" will freeze up
[10:57] <bstarek> LOL
[10:58] <MacroMan> Just w? That's easy
[10:58] <bstarek> hit "w" in terminal
[10:58] <bstarek> MacroMan, yes easy :)
[10:58] <MacroMan> ha. Didn't know that one
[10:58] <MacroMan> Thanks
[10:58] <bstarek> MacroMan, welcome
[10:58] <JediMaster> also gives you uptime and load too
[10:58] <JediMaster> w is great =)
[10:59] <geirha> MacroMan: the USER environment variable also holds your username. printf '%s\n' "$USER"
[11:00] <bstarek> geirha, yes would more useful in a script
[11:00] <bstarek> geirha, thanks
[11:02] <blackbird1> geirha, for "xyz" the $msg is equal to + msg=$'xyz\r'
[11:02] <blackbird1> I need to remove \r
[11:03] <geirha> blackbird1: Right, a CR, so did you read it from a text file generated on windows, perhaps?
[11:03] <geirha> blackbird1: anyway,  msg=${msg%$'\r'}
[11:03] <geirha> removes a trailing CR if there is one
[11:03] <blackbird1> It from irc server response when someone write in the channel
[11:04] <JediMaster> Thanks for the help bstarek
[11:04] <blackbird1> geirha, this is the regex: if [[ $holeMatch =~ ^:(.*)!~.*PRIVMSG.*:(.*)$ ]]
[11:04] <bstarek> JediMaster, welcome anytime
[11:04] <geirha> blackbird1: ok, and you parse that with a while read loop? then putting CR in IFS should do as well
[11:04] <blackbird1> msg=${BASH_REMATCH[2]}
[11:04] <geirha> blackbird1: while IFS=$'\r' read -r line; do ...; done
[11:05] <MacroMan> geirha, Thanks. That's more helpful in my situation.
[11:09] <djugashvili> hey, under ubuntu /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq says my max frequency is 2,5GHz, however i know the cpu can do 3,2Ghz
[11:10] <hateball> djugashvili: What's the output of "lscpu" ?
[11:10] <k1l> djugashvili: do you mean the "turbo" frequency?
[11:10] <djugashvili> k1l: yes hateball one sec
[11:11] <djugashvili> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081194/
[11:13] <k1l> djugashvili: 2,5 is the base frequency. the 3,2ghz is only used by the turbo if the temperatures are not too high etc.
[11:14] <mementomori> hi
[11:14] <djugashvili> k1l:  i know but when i run stress it does not go up at all
[11:15] <mementomori> what's the way to open a folder window from the gnoe terminal?
[11:15] <mementomori> I usually do 'start .' from cmd when in windows
[11:15] <mementomori> s/gnoe/gnome
[11:17] <hateball> mementomori: "xdg-open ."
[11:17] <k1l> mementomori: nautilus /path/to/folder
[11:17] <hateball> would be one way
[11:17] <k1l> better use alt+f2 for that
[11:18] <mementomori> hateball, thanks!
[11:19] <venkat_330> How blackist a specific usbserial device for loading driver ( 0403:6014)
[11:20] <hateball> mementomori: xdg-open is neat, because it will open with your standard app, regardless if you point to a folder or a file or whatever
[11:20] <hateball> mementomori: like xdg-open some.pdf
[11:23] <blackbird1> geirha, Is it possible with sed ? --> echo $holeMatch | sed 's/[\r|\n]+$//g'
[11:23] <blackbird1> the "\r" or "\n" or "\r\n" is always in the end.
[11:23] <geirha> blackbird1: that would be rather overkill. I've shown you two ways to do it with bash; why complicate things with sed?
[11:25] <geirha> holeMatch=${holeMatch%$'\r'}  though I'd recommned stripping the CRs as you read it in instead
[11:27] <speedy__> hello
[11:28] <blackbird1> Thanks geirha it works, for my knowledge, how to do it with sed ? :)
[11:29] <djugashvili> ok i got back to using the intel pstate andi  get the desired frequency range
[11:29] <djugashvili> however i can't change the governor to perforamnce
[11:29] <djugashvili> there are two governors available with pstate: powersave and perfdormance
[11:30] <djugashvili> performance*
[11:30] <djugashvili> and i can't set performance
[11:33] <akshaystore> iam just looking to upgrade ubuntu
[11:33] <Ben64> akshaystore: from what to what
[11:34] <akshaystore> 15.04 to 16.04
[11:34] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | akshaystore
[11:34] <Ben64> you got two of those to go through
[11:35] <k1l> akshaystore: make the EOL upgrade to 15.10. then the regular upgrade to 16.04 should work.
[11:35] <k1l> in future stay on LTS releases if you dont like to upgrade every 6 months.
[11:40] <dymsani> ?
[11:41] <venkat_330> _l_k_z_m: How to blackist a specific usbserial device for loading driver ( 0403:6014)
[11:44] <enzo> ciao a tutti
[11:45] <discovered> After editing sudoers i can't run any application as sudo. I have added %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: /path/to/script . Now i don't have any other users too
[11:45] <Guest91273> qualche bella coppia?
[11:46] <hateball> !it | Guest91273
[11:47] <Guest91273> join
[11:48] <Guest91273> ma in italiano niente?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:49] <joelio> afternoon :)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> :-)
[11:51] <spartan2276> how can I enable the use of .htaccess in apache2?
[11:51] <Ben64> it's already enabled
[11:51] <geirha> blackbird1: see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/052
[11:52] <geirha> BluesKaj: oh nevermind, I seem to remember it also showing a way with sed. Anyway:  sed $'s/\r$//'
[11:52] <scottc1> spartan2276: Controlled by the AllowOverride directive
[11:52] <spartan2276> I already created the .htaccess files within the web app root, however I was reading the apache docs and it says that I have to set AllowOveride which is set to none to allow but it is not working
[11:53] <scottc1> spartan2276: none disables .htaccess files
[11:53] <Ben64> spartan2276: any errors in the apache log?
[11:53] <spartan2276> scottcl right but when I set it to allow apache freaks out
[11:54] <scottc1> spartan2276: use either All or one of the directive types
[11:54] <scottc1> spartan2276: Freaks out how?
[11:54] <Ben64> because you didn't look up what AllowOverride options are
[11:54] <Ben64> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#allowoverride
[11:56] <zetheroo> I am trying to resize an encrypted disk partition in 16.04 - has any one had experience/success with this?
[11:56] <lordcirth> zetheroo, have backups first, please
[11:57] <zetheroo> lordcirth: I am testing this out on a VM that's just here for this purpose alone ;)
[11:57] <lordcirth> zetheroo, I assume by resize you mean expand?
[11:57] <zetheroo> lordcirth: either way, but yes, in practice it would be mostly for expanding
[11:57] <lordcirth> zetheroo, first you expand the partition, then the LUKS, then the filesystem - basically lower layer first, going up
[11:58] <lordcirth> shrinking is the reverse
[11:58] <deanoman> going to have someone help me with my 16.04 vm and am trying to work out a way to be able to see what was modified durning the time they are on the server. Google came back with numerous find articles but they all seem to be lacking.  I'm trying to fix that
[11:58] <zetheroo> lordcirth: ok
[11:59] <frostschutz> zetheroo, LUKS only needs 'cryptsetup resize' if you manage to resize while LUKS is open. if you reboot in between LUKS just uses whatever the size of the blockdevice is
[11:59] <Ben64> deanoman: kind of. the data isn't 100% reliable though
[11:59] <reddsik> >1940 total
[11:59] <reddsik> oww
[11:59] <lordcirth> deanoman, tripwire or similar security tools can watch for malware or tampering, inotify can show you what files were accessed
[11:59] <reddsik> so many n00bs
[11:59] <zetheroo> lordcirth: does this look like it would work with 16.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[12:00] <spartan2276> scottcl so I created a .htaccess file in the root of the web application so that if you don't use https it redirects you to it
[12:00] <frostschutz> zetheroo, so when growing LUKS you can just make the partition larger, then resize2fs once you're booted into the system. when shrinking you have to keep in mind that LUKS eats 2MiB for its header, so if you shrink the filesystem to 100G, the partition needs to be 100G+2MiB in size
[12:00] <spartan2276> scottcl however that is an epic fail as it is not working
[12:01] <lordcirth> frostschutz, the guide has LUKS resize commands too, it's not automatic
[12:02] <hateball> spartan2276: why not use http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RedirectSSL ?
[12:02] <Ben64> spartan2276: pastebin the htaccess
[12:02] <zetheroo> frostschutz: and growing LUKS is done from a LiveCD session?
[12:02] <scottc1> spartan2276: Just out of curiosity - I take it you have access to the Apache config if you are able to change AllowOverride etc. Why are you using .htaccess?
[12:02] <spartan2276> yes
[12:02] <scottc1> spartan2276: However as others have said, could we see your .htaccess please
[12:03] <deanoman> lordcirth thanks
[12:03] <frostschutz> zetheroo, usually changing partitions is done from a livecd in case you have to move stuff around. if you know what you're doing - you can do it from within the system itself
[12:04] <frostschutz> zetheroo, if you can paste some info about your specific situation maybe we can give more specific advice. show your 'sudo parted /dev/disk unit mib print free' / 'sudo lsblk' and tell what you want to resize how
[12:04] <spartan2276> Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081366/
[12:04] <zetheroo> frostschutz: and what about the LVM part of the disk setup? I ask because it seems with 16.04 that you cannot encrypt your disk without LVm being selected as well
[12:05] <spartan2276> scottcl http://paste.ubuntu.com/23081366/
[12:06] <spartan2276> as you guys can see is very straight forward as all I'm looking to do is an overall site redirect
[12:08] <frostschutz> zetheroo, then it depends if it's LUKS on LVM, or LVM on LUKS. With LUKS on LVM, that's where cryptsetup resize comes in, if you grow the LV that LUKS is on, and don't want to reboot/reopen the LUKS, use cryptsetup resize to make LUKS realize the LV changed size
[12:08] <spartan2276> scottcl I do have access to the config but I'm not just running apache/php. It is an apache/coldfusion setup so it is a pain in the A
[12:08] <frostschutz> zetheroo, with LVM on LUKS, you just ... reboot and pvresize and then lvresize, resize2fs
[12:09] <fishCode> spartan2276, what does the https off bit do
[12:09] <zetheroo> frostschutz: I don't know which way it's done ... its whatever way Ubuntu does it by default I suppose
[12:09] <spartan2276> scottcl so I rather not mess with it and go the safe route
[12:11] <Ben64> would be easier to do it in the conf like someone linked to earlier
[12:11] <spartan2276> fishCode it checks to see if the user is coming from non https, meaning if the user types http:// it will redirect them to https://
[12:11] <frostschutz> zetheroo, I suppose it's LVM on LUKS. lsblk will show you clearly
[12:12] <Ben64> spartan2276: fairly sure you have a few syntax problems in there
[12:12] <Ben64> your apache log should tell you
[12:13] <spartan2276> Ben64 oh I don't doubt that but I can't even get that file to be called
[12:13] <Ben64> what does the apache log say
[12:15] <spartan2276> Ben64 mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported
[12:15] <Ben64> thats a conf problem, you haven't even gotten to the htaccess yet
[12:16] <spartan2276> Ben64 that is the last entry on my log, which is why I'm saying that I can't even get the .htaccess file going
[12:16] <Ben64> so fix your conf
[12:17] <spartan2276> Ben64 I tried setting the AllowOverride to all within the site virtual host
[12:18] <spartan2276> but no Dice
[12:18] <Ben64> cool. but that doesn't fix the error you pasted
[12:22] <spartan2276> Ben64 yes I know, if I knew how to fix it I would not be asking for help. sometimes the documentation for apache is not very straight forward and the ubuntu docs are very simple just enough to get you started
[12:22] <Ben64> you're too focused on the https thing when you don't even have it working at all
[12:23] <Ben64> what is this apache to be used for?
[12:24] <spartan2276> Ben64 thanks anayways, been up all night trying to fix this issue. For now the site is up only working on https so at least is secure(somewhat).
[12:24] <Netek> if during an installation of an app via ssh and disconnection occurs, does the system carry on installing the app?
[12:25] <spartan2276> Ben64 I also just realized that I'm running Apache 2.2 which is said to have bugs with this non-ssl thing
[12:34] <cuaox> hi guys its me again
[12:34] <cuaox> can you help me a bi
[12:34] <cuaox> t
[12:35] <cuaox> I have the problem of freezing X when i run 3d games
[12:35] <cuaox> but- i cant check the error log because i have to restart my pc when this freeze occurs
[12:35] <cuaox> is there any way logs of crash/freeze are saved so i can view them later?
[12:36] <nexusguy59> Good morning guys
[12:36] <nexusguy59> and ladies lol
[12:38] <Ben64> cuaox: check in /var/log
[12:38] <cuaox> Ben64: which log should i check and for what should i look for?
[12:38] <Ben64> cuaox: also, see what happens if you have an ssh session going on when the crash happens, you might still be able to do stuff
[12:38] <Ben64> all the logs, anything around the time of the problem
[12:39] <cuaox> I have no other pc i could log in to this one from
[12:39] <Ben64> could be a phone
[12:40] <cuaox> okay lets say it freezes and i have ssh connection with a phone, what should i do? (im total newb with those things sorry for such questions)
[12:41] <Ben64> well if you can still do things on the terminal, then it's not actually crashed
[12:44] <Johnynasndfnas> Anyone using Blocks IDE on ubuntu? mine keeps crashing all the time on 16.04 for some reason
[12:44] <tomreyn> tomreyn
[12:44] <AzraelEnki> cuaox, if you're local then you can use the 'keyboard test' press the numlock, if the led changes, it didn't crash the kernel.
[12:44] <tomreyn> sorry
[12:45] <tomreyn> whenever i power up my computer (running xubuntu 16.04), audio goes to the headphones (whether or not they are plugged in). but i need it to go to line out by default. where can i configure this?
[12:46] <zetheroo> lately when I plug a USB disk into my PC and try to copy a file to it I am told 'Permission Denied' - even though my user owns the disk and I can create folders on it
[12:52] <Jagst3r15> hey if I am on php5 on ubuntu 15.10 server and i upgrade to 16.04 will php5 be removed??
[12:53] <ikonia> there isn't a PHP5 package is there ? it's the php meta package which points at 7
[12:53] <ikonia> there is a PHP5 package for 16.04 but I think it comes from a lower priority repo, or maybe even a 3rd party ppa - but I think it's multiverse or something like that
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> ikonia i just hit the upgrade button and it says welcome to ubuntu 16.04
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> and php -v says PHP 5.6.11-1ubuntu3.4 (cli)
[12:54] <ikonia> interesting
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> so i guess it leaves that package!?
[12:54] <ikonia> do apt-cache policy php
[12:55] <Jagst3r15> hmm it says   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 1:7.0+35ubuntu6
[12:55] <ere> Hello
[12:55] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: have you rebooted after the upgrade ?
[12:56] <CDuv> Hello
[12:56] <Jagst3r15_> sorry lost connection
[12:57] <Jagst3r15_> ikonia yea i rebooted
[12:57] <CDuv> Hello
[12:57] <Jagst3r15_> still says 5.6 when i do php -v
[12:57] <ere> Hello CDuv
[12:57] <ikonia> Jagst3r15_: pastebin dpkg -l | grep php please
[12:57] <CDuv> Upgraded from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04.1 and I have issue with EncFs volumes: cannot double-click to open files :-/
[13:06] <Guest0809> who Lego
[13:07] <Guest0809> quit
[13:08] <MacroMan> I'm trying to create and publish a gpg key, but my passwords gui doesn't seem to work. Can I create a publish it via terminal?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !gpg
[13:09] <MacroMan> cfhowlett, Thanks
[13:09] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[13:14] <Jagst3r15_> ikonia http://pastebin.com/VdTkt1sa
[13:14] <fishCode> anyone have experience with installing and uninstalling python3 modules?
[13:15] <fishCode> i installed a python module using python3 setup.py install
[13:15] <cfhowlett> fishCode, don't waste bandwidth with "anyone?" questions.  state YOUR issues and specs
[13:15] <fishCode> it created what looks like reference/library folders
[13:16] <fishCode> inside of my project folder in my home directory
[13:17] <fishCode> i did not want those in my home directory so i deleted the folders and put the module in a better location. i tried to install the module again to re-write the paths etc... but it is looking for a file in my home directory that isnt there
[13:17] <fishCode> from the traceback: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/fishcode/.python_hue'
[13:17] <fishCode> why is it looking for the module in my home directory?
[13:18] <Jagst3r15_> ikonia did u get that?
[13:18] <fishCode> not even the directory that i installed the module from either time
[13:18] <discovered> Hi, I am trying make deb package from Oracle JDK using make-jpkg. But it is giving me error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23081609/ . I need help!
[13:19] <discovered> The simple command i used "make-jpkg jdk-8u101-linux-x64.tar.gz" ...
[13:20] <discovered> Am i doing anything wrong?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !packaging
[13:21] <Jagst3r15_> well..does anyone else know why php5 is still on my server after upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04? is that normal
[13:23] <AzraelEnki> Live boot cd: I've downloaded the iso for the server but how can I boot the live cd without it asking to install it? or do I need to use the desktop iso?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> AzraelEnki, server doesn't have a "try ubuntu" option, but desktop does
[13:26] <filsuf> hallo hallo ... Im gonna dual boot win 10 and linux ... WHICH ONE should we install first?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> windows
[13:26] <filsuf> ru also dual booting cfhowlett
[13:27] <cfhowlett> win7
[13:27] <filsuf> ic
[13:27] <filsuf> do you know if we can install win 10 WITHOUT EFI or UEFI partition?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> pretty sure win10 will demand efi
[13:28] <filsuf> is there a way NOT TO ALLOCATE a partition for that?
[13:28] <L3gacy> Hail
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !efi | filsuf
[13:29] <AzraelEnki> cfhowlett, thanks I´ll download the desktop version. It´s for a network (pxe/bootp/tftp) boot.
[13:30] <cfhowlett> azizLIGHT, easy enough to add the server utilities if you need
[13:31] <filsuf> do we need that "healthy recovery" partition?
[13:31] <multifractal_> I'm trying to get a L2TP/IPSec VPN client working in 14.04 following this: https://github.com/nm-l2tp/network-manager-l2tp
[13:31] <multifractal_> Can't find 'libnma' with apt-get
[13:32] <cfhowlett> filsuf, I nuked my windows partition, so can not reset to factory fresh settings.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> and you DO have your windows 10 restore USB right?  RIGHT?
[13:33] <filsuf> I dont see any reason I will ever restore this to factory default
[13:33] <filsuf> why would you if you could clean install it?
[13:34] <huesaurus> micro$oft is eval
[13:34] <huesaurus> lunix is the future of desktops
[13:37] <multifractal_> How can I get this libnm and libnma things???
[13:39] <tekisui> thanks for suggesting to put nice on -20
[13:39] <tekisui> hoped it be effective way to clean the pc :D
[13:39] <tekisui> at least know it works !
[13:39] <tekisui> (:
[13:40] <filsuf> I can just dd those "recovery" partition I guess
[13:41] <filsuf> but I still dont really see the point
[13:42] <gr33nbits> heias, just got back from 4.4.0-42 to 4.4.0-34 with the last update, what happened?
[13:42] <multifractal_> How can I get this "libnm" and "libnma" dependency? apt-get doesn't find them.
[13:42] <gr33nbits> i mean lts 14.04
[13:43] <geirha> gr33nbits: of what?
[13:44] <gr33nbits> my kernel got back on the last ubuntu 14.04 lts update that i just got
[13:45] <cfhowlett> that's not how it works, gr33nbits.  if you are seeing an old kernel instead of the new kernel either you don't have the new kernel or you manually selected the old kernel.  reboot, choose advanced options at grub, and select
[13:45] <gr33nbits> was a weird popup to start with and had but legit, "Install" or "Accept"
[13:45] <AzraelEnki> multifractal_, I´m guessing here: NetworkManager Applet. I *think* it supposed to install libnma.so, if I googled it correctly.
[13:46] <gr33nbits> cfhowlett 4.4.0-42 well it's not there anymore
[13:46] <cfhowlett> gr33nbits, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:46] <k1l> gr33nbits: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[13:46] <mihael_k33hl> When opening Google Chrome or Firefox, ubuntu seems to be having a very high CPU usage. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04
[13:46] <gr33nbits> will that bring me to 16.04
[13:47] <cfhowlett> of course not.
[13:47] <sveinse> I'm setting up nfs4 (for the the first time in 15 years) on 16.04. I get the share up and running, but it is not squashing how I expect it to (it does not squash at all). What could I be doing wrong?
[13:47] <multifractal_> AzraelEnki So what do I do?
[13:47] <gr33nbits> okis doing it, thanks a bunch
[13:48] <gr33nbits> k1l 14.04.5 LTS
[13:50] <helloNL> am trying to set up an ubuntu 16.04 server for self use and I want to set up test.domain.com and domain.com, On test.domain.com I want my PHPstorm to auto upload to it and domain.com to pull from a git repo
[13:50] <k1l> gr33nbits: make sure "linux-generic-lts-xenial" is installed
[13:50] <helloNL> How would I do this?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> helloNL, sounds like a question best asked in #ubuntu-server