[11:18] <poopsock> can anyone give me any pointers on installing ubuntu on a second disc.... i keep getting error loading operating system after install
[11:18] <bjorn-> Madpilot: ok, adding the commercial source ...
[11:18] <summet>  my mail to hotmail is going to junkbox why any idea ?
[11:19] <Mandalf> !ftp
[11:19] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[11:19] <linux_user400354> should i round to cylinders when creating partitions?
[11:19] <Madpilot> bjorn-, take the # off the beginnings of line 36 & 37 in that paste, add the commercial source, then update. You should get Opera then.
[11:19] <Shubuntu> heyo, I am wanting to convert my media drive to something more linux friendly then ntfs is there anyway of doing this without copying 220 gigs of data off the drive, wiping, and repartitioning?
[11:19] <kestas> Shubuntu: 'fraid not
[11:19] <Shubuntu> ick...
[11:19] <Shubuntu> ...
[11:19] <Shubuntu> hmm
[11:19] <Shubuntu> icky.
[11:19] <SanketMedhi> hi Shubuntu
[11:19] <kestas> Shubuntu: plus it'll be hard to find a format which can store so much data but works with windows and linux
[11:20] <Mandalf> !config
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <lostsync_> i want to roll back all of my dbus-related packages to the ones officially supplied by ubuntu, because they were changed by the BMPx repos, but trying to unmark it in synaptic is going to uninstall a TON of things...how can i get around this?
[11:20] <Mandalf> !configure
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <bjorn-> Madpilot: ok, I'll try that. Thanks for helping out :)
[11:20] <Mandalf> Hmm
[11:20] <Madpilot> bjorn-, np
[11:20] <Shubuntu> Kestas: dont really care about windows anymore. it can bite me. only using it for the occasional game
[11:20] <Mandalf> Huw to set up acconts on vsftpd in terminal
[11:20] <Mandalf> ???
[11:20] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: games can also be played on Ubuntu without much pain now
[11:20] <linux_user400354> Mandalf:  adduser
[11:21] <kestas> SanketMedhi: yeah.. not much
[11:21] <SanketMedhi> kestas: ?
[11:21] <kestas> if you know the intricacies of WINE and DirectX
[11:21] <SanketMedhi> kestas: oh ok
[11:21] <Shubuntu> SanketMedhi, I am Shubuntu, or D. Shaw, not the one your looking for. that aside. EXPLAIN TO ME the ways of linux gaming
[11:21] <SanketMedhi> kestas: why Directx?
[11:21] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: Huw to du that in the program?
[11:22] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: Im new in terminal
[11:22] <tnzr> does the ipw2200 not support monitored mode?
[11:22] <Shubuntu> last I looked into it, linux gaming via wine was incredibly slow and buggy.
[11:22] <kestas> SanketMedhi: so that you can port the appropriate directx calls to WINE when your game invariably tries to use a call which isn't supported or breaks
[11:22] <linux_user400354> Mandalf: you are making no sense.
[11:22] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: ok sorry, go to linux-gamers.net
[11:22] <Shubuntu> but that was like 6 years ago
[11:22] <Mandalf> !vsftpd
[11:22] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB
[11:22] <cynikal> shubuntu: no, but ntfs is very linux friendly if you are just reading files from the partition. Its writing files thats usually an issue, and now the only problem is how slow it is for large files.
[11:22] <SanketMedhi> kestas: uhh ok
[11:22] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: ?
[11:23] <linux_user400354> Mandalf: ?
[11:23] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: Whad do you mean
[11:23] <maxx03> hello there.. can anyone tell me how to defrag an ext3 drive from ubuntu?
[11:24] <Shubuntu> cynikal. I would kind of like acess to my largest drive... so basically I need to find some way to back it all up. OR do a very slow time wasting process of creating and resizing partitions?
[11:24] <fdoving> maxx03: you don't need to.
[11:24] <Mandalf> linux_user400354: What*
[11:24] <linux_user400354> i mean what i say. what do you not understand about it.
[11:24] <frogzoo> maxx03: entirely unnecessary
[11:24] <maxx03> fdoving, really? i just had the check after 30 mounts and it said it had 1.9 non-continuous or something
[11:25] <Shubuntu> frogzoo & fdoving, ive wondered about this, why dont you need to?
[11:25] <cynikal> shubuntu: well what exactly do you need access for? Listening to music that you saved on that hard drive?
[11:25] <Joshbeat> i suggest playing native games in ubuntu..
[11:25] <Joshbeat> dont use wine..
[11:25] <frogzoo> Shubuntu: the ext algorithm automatically reallocates to avoid fragmentation
[11:25] <frogzoo> Joshbeat: wine works perfectly for some games - get WoW
[11:25] <cynikal> I second joshbeat's advice
[11:25] <Joshbeat> wow?
[11:26] <cynikal> there are some great unreal mods out there
[11:26] <maxx03> at the risk of being unpopular, i would suggest that windows is better for games... that's why i dual boot
[11:26] <cynikal> World of Warcraft
[11:26] <jujimufu> Joshbeat: World of Warcraft
[11:26] <Shubuntu> cynikal, well its a 300 gig drive for all my media, 220 of it is full. it is also the biggest drive in my computer, and I do need to read and write to it. I would prefer to use windows as little as possible.
[11:26] <frogzoo> s/get/eg.
[11:26] <Joshbeat> i agree with maxx
[11:26] <gnube> Is there an official way to get older (in this case, more stable) software onto the machine with apt?
[11:26] <Joshbeat> ok juji
[11:26] <Shubuntu> frogzoo, makes sense... wonder why windows is still retarded... nevermind dont need to answer that.
[11:26] <jujimufu> Joshbeat: also, there is Cedega, which supports around 70% of windows games - installation and running them.
[11:26] <Joshbeat> wow native 4 ubuntu
[11:26] <jujimufu> Joshbeat: but you have to like, pay. But it's worth it :)
[11:26] <cynikal> Shubuntu: How large would the files be? (the ones you are writing to the windows partition)
[11:26] <frogzoo> !appdb
[11:26] <ubotu> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:27] <raal> how to install cedega
[11:27] <gnube> We need to use python2.3-mysqldb because the latest version of python-mysqldb has an ascii decoding error.
[11:27] <Joshbeat> wow native 4 ubuntu?
[11:27] <jujimufu> raal: buy it?
[11:27] <linux_user400354> whats the best brand of sata-1 controllers for ubuntu?
[11:27] <Shubuntu> cynikal: I have several dvd backups on there and isos that are over 2 gigs, so fat is out of the question
[11:27] <raal> jujimufu:is not free?
[11:27] <frogzoo> !hardware > linux_user400354
[11:27] <FirstStrike> raal: it's $5 a month
[11:28] <Shubuntu> FirstStike, but how well does it run the games?
[11:28] <FirstStrike> i run half life 2 deathmatch at 50 fps in cedega
[11:28] <avis> i am curious since ubuntu is based on debian what do ubuntu users think of debian ?
[11:28] <Shubuntu> Firststrike, is it as good or better then windows, because really 20 gigs for a windows game partition isnt that much nowadays.
[11:28] <Joshbeat> WoW is native 4 ubuntu?
[11:28] <FirstStrike> Josh
[11:28] <FirstStrike> No
[11:28] <raal> Joshbeat:no
[11:28] <Joshbeat> ok
[11:29] <raal> Joshbeat:only windows and Mac
[11:29] <FirstStrike> Shubuntu: it's about as good as windows. I have no issues running it.
[11:29] <Joshbeat> ill go for Wolfenstein
[11:29] <Joshbeat> thnks raal
[11:29] <Shubuntu> joshbeat, it supposedly works through cedega
[11:29] <cynikal> wow happens to run better than most games because it uses opengl
[11:29] <jes-o-mat> I'm building my own kernel-* packages using make-kpkg. afterwards my /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build symlink always points to the directory where I've build my packges, but it should point to the /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` directory. What am I doning wrong?
[11:29] <cynikal> as opposed to directx, which I dont think is even fully supported by wine
[11:29] <Joshbeat> ok
[11:30] <Joshbeat> i have a built in webcam on my laptop...how can i make it work?
[11:30] <Shubuntu> firststrike: how good is the game library for support, I tend to play RTS and RPG niether are extremly mainstream.
[11:30] <tibbe> is it possible to switch between a laptop screen and an external monitor with different resolution?
[11:30] <FirstStrike> it depends on the game. go read the cedega forums and you'll get an idea.
[11:30] <FirstStrike> there's also a wiki for wine that lists games that works with that.
[11:31] <Shubuntu> firststrike, for it to be worth it to me, it would need to run dawn of war, rise of legends, fear, halflife2/steam, and heroes V
[11:31] <Shubuntu> the games I am playing at the moment via my windows partition
[11:31] <FirstStrike> fear won't run in either cedega or wine at the moment
[11:31] <FirstStrike> steam and half life 2 run fine
[11:31] <FirstStrike> i can't speak for the rest
[11:31] <Shubuntu> firststrike: not a big deal... played through it already...
[11:31] <raal> is wine a free software?
[11:31] <FirstStrike> yes
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: all games using Steam run perfectly on Ubuntu
[11:32] <FirstStrike> didn't we go over this already raal?
[11:32] <Shubuntu> allright then...
[11:32] <Joshbeat> native or with wine?
[11:32] <FirstStrike> jesus
[11:32] <Shubuntu> funny
[11:32] <cynikal> shubuntu: here is the supported games database for cedega http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[11:32] <FirstStrike> WITH WINE
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Shubuntu: games from IDSoft run natively on Linux
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> yes
[11:32] <FirstStrike> there's no native steam games
[11:32] <Madpilot> raal, for the 2nd time, no it is not free.
[11:32] <Shubuntu> cynikal, thanks!
[11:32] <cynikal> np :)
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Firyes, using Wine
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> oops
[11:32] <Joshbeat> can any1 right to them to make a native for Ubuntu.
[11:32] <Joshbeat> i love CS
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: using wine, yes
[11:32] <Madpilot> raal, gah, sorry, yes wine is free, cegega isn't...
[11:32] <Joshbeat> write
[11:32] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: me too :P
[11:33] <Joshbeat> CS is really good.
[11:33] <FirstStrike> good luck
[11:33] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: that is not possible
[11:33] <Joshbeat> why
[11:33] <FirstStrike> CS runs fine on nix though..i don't see what the big deal is.
[11:33] <cynical> actually no it doesnt
[11:33] <cynical> imho
[11:33] <FirstStrike> it depends on your PC..i've had no issues with any HL2 mods
[11:33] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: because its not Free
[11:33] <Joshbeat> cs source is free
[11:33] <cynical> it doesnt feel right to me
[11:34] <Joshbeat> from steam
[11:34] <SanketMedhi> try America's Army
[11:34] <SanketMedhi> its native and gr8
[11:34] <cynical> its playable I guess, but I'd have to wait for the linux ventrilo client before I'd switch
[11:34] <Joshbeat> AA is not that fast as the cs
[11:34] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: AA is heavy on grafix
[11:35] <exs> System76 looks very attractive to me... but I live in the UK. Is this possible?
[11:35] <FirstStrike> cynical: what processor/ram/graphics card do you have?
[11:35] <Joshbeat> ill switch if cs is ready/ dualboot XP and Ubunt
[11:35] <SanketMedhi> ?
[11:35] <Joshbeat> any1 playing CS
[11:35] <FirstStrike> ...
[11:35] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: go to linux-gamers.net and chk their How-to on Half-Life/Steam
[11:35] <fdoving> Shubuntu: ext3 is self healing, it calculates and allocate disk space on the fly. That prevents files from beeing written in pieces. So defragmentation could be possible with a downgrade to ext2, but it would be dangerous and completely unnecessary.
[11:35] <cynical> firststrike: I'm using a Core 2 Duo E6300 / 1GB 667mhz DDR2 / MSI 6600GT
[11:36] <FirstStrike> okey
[11:36] <Joshbeat> thnks sanke
[11:36] <Shubuntu> can Cedega be found via torrent for evaluation purposes?
[11:36] <cynical> I cant even use my cdrom drive because of that damn jmicron controller. Intel, why hadst thou forsaken me?
[11:37] <FirstStrike> Shubuntu: yep..
[11:37] <FirstStrike> search for 5.2.3 and the 5.2.4 engine
[11:37] <Shubuntu> FirstStrike: I may be cheap... but If a company makes a product worth my money, they get it. :P
[11:37] <shaantanu> !pastebin
[11:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:37] <FirstStrike> good luck
[11:38] <SanketMedhi> hi shaantanu
[11:38] <shaantanu> hi
[11:38] <jujimufu> has anyone worked wiht xaamp?
[11:38] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: yes
[11:39] <Joshbeat> thanks sanket
[11:39] <Joshbeat> its F.E.A.R. good?
[11:39] <Joshbeat> is F.E.A.R. good?
[11:40] <FirstStrike> yes
[11:40] <FirstStrike> to a point
[11:40] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: np
[11:40] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: FEAR?
[11:40] <FirstStrike> and no, it won't run under linux
[11:40] <SanketMedhi> Joshbeat: what is that?
[11:40] <shaantanu> I screwed up my alsa ... now I dont have any sound in my system and no alsa mixer in sound preferences . Heres my  aplay--list-devices. Plz temme what to do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21266
[11:40] <FirstStrike> SanketMedhi: an FPS/horror game for windows
[11:40] <cynical> fear multiplayer was just released for free
[11:41] <FirstStrike> and still doesn't run under linux~
[11:41] <Joshbeat> FPS games also..
[11:41] <cynical> my bro was going to try running it in cedega on suse to see if it was ok
[11:41] <Shubuntu> Does anyone have any idea how to make my pioneer 110 play all regions?
[11:41] <FirstStrike> i already tried it on wine and cedega
[11:41] <FirstStrike> no dice on either
[11:41] <Joshbeat> 1ststrike wat do u mean
[11:41] <FirstStrike> in wine it tells me my graphic card isn't supported and in cedega it doesn't start up at all
[11:42] <SanketMedhi> FirstStrike: check http://appdb.winehq.org/
[11:42] <FirstStrike> it's listed as unsupported SanketMedhi
[11:42] <FirstStrike> i've been there, done that
[11:42] <SanketMedhi> ok
[11:43] <shaantanu> any body ?? saw my pastebin ?
[11:43] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: I did
[11:43] <SanketMedhi> shaantanu: but I can't figure it out :P
[11:43] <SanketMedhi> sorry
[11:43] <shaantanu> :D
[11:43] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: run alsaconf
[11:43] <chops-> for some reason make is not working
[11:43] <FirstStrike> post on the forums or google it shaantanu
[11:43] <cynical> strike do you have a 6800gs?
[11:43] <FirstStrike> cynical: yes
[11:43] <shaantanu> ohk
[11:43] <cynical> heh found your post, ah well
[11:43] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: Ive installed it and runned it, and when I run e107's install.php script to install the cms on my PC, it says it can't open it
[11:43] <cynical> maybe we'll get support soon
[11:44] <SanketMedhi> linux_user400354: there is no alsaconf on my system
[11:44] <shaantanu> linux_user400354: wait i'll do that
[11:44] <FirstStrike> i doubt it
[11:44] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: i mean alsamixer sorry
[11:44] <cynical> they do have polls for this kind of thing
[11:44] <Joshbeat> sanket do u play cs
[11:44] <FirstStrike> i know saga of ryzom is getting better cedega support though.
[11:44] <FirstStrike> the people over at ryzom did a code drop to cedega
[11:44] <shaantanu> ok
[11:44] <FirstStrike> but it already runs fine for me in wine
[11:44] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: by xampp you mean apache+mysql+php?
[11:44] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: how did you install it?
[11:44] <chops-> can anyone think why my make command wont work last time i needed "sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev" but now it doesn't seem to want to install that
[11:45] <SanketMedhi> !buildutils
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <SanketMedhi> chops-: you might need to install the buildutils package
[11:45] <linux_user400354> chops-: you need the build-essentials package
[11:45] <chops-> i done the build-essentials
[11:45] <FirstStrike> chops-: did you already install libncurses5-dev?
[11:45] <chops-> nope
[11:46] <chops-> thats the next one i need
[11:46] <SanketMedhi> ok sorry build-essentials it is
[11:46] <homerh_linux> hiya compileing new kernel and it just said building stage 2 now it been 2and a half hours so far how long d you reacon
[11:46] <npster> What was the keyborard keys that you needed to press in order to restart X ?
[11:46] <npster> were
[11:46] <linux_user400354> control alt backspace
[11:46] <shaantanu> linux_user:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21273
[11:46] <npster> thx
[11:47] <FirstStrike> x has a tendancy to restart sometimes if you do that
[11:47] <FirstStrike> i just do killall gdm
[11:47] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: what did you do to screw up alsa?
[11:47] <shaantanu> i follwed up a tutorial in ubuntuguide.org
[11:47] <shaantanu> in hope of better sound
[11:47] <shaantanu> :(
[11:47] <shaantanu> and I got no sound
[11:48] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: I downloaded the sources, followed the instructions (copied the /opt etc), and then I ran /opt/laamp/laamp start and it started everything. http://localhost was working fine
[11:48] <FirstStrike> note to new users: make backups of every file you change if you're doing something for the first time.
[11:48] <chops-> i get this error "WARNING **** curses not found"
[11:48] <shaantanu> I made a backup firestriker
[11:48] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: remove alsa and be sure to remove configuration files when by using using this option in apt-get --purge. then install alsa again and see if that fixes it.
[11:49] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: hopefully you made a backup of any files you corrupted when following that guide
[11:49] <SanketMedhi> !xampp
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <SanketMedhi> !xamp
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xamp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <SanketMedhi> umm
[11:49] <shaantanu> apt-get install alsa will help ??
[11:49] <Ng> !lamp
[11:49] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:49] <ROAD-KING> HI ALL
[11:49] <FirstStrike> if you didn't uninstall it then probably not
[11:49] <FirstStrike> it's just broke; not gone
[11:50] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: sudo apt-get remove --purge nameofalsapackages  and then do sudo apt-get install nameofalsapackages
[11:50] <shaantanu> so ... how do i uninstall and reinstall it ?/
[11:50] <FirstStrike> ^
[11:50] <shaantanu> ok
[11:50] <linux_user400354> !alsa
[11:50] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:50] <shaantanu> how do I find out the nameofalsa packages
[11:50] <shaantanu> I tried that linux_user
[11:50] <chops-> how do i install curses
[11:51] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: just use synaptic and search alsa then only reinstall the alsa packages that you have
[11:51] <shaantanu> k
[11:51] <YogSothoth> Still stuck with resolution not properly used! And I'm having a great monologue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1404052
[11:52] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: why don't you use lamp?
[11:52] <linux_user400354> someone sent me this page earlier https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport there is nothing about sata controller cards in it.
[11:53] <Ng> chops-: are you trying to compile something that needs curses?
[11:53] <linux_user400354> !tell shaantanu about alsa
[11:53] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: xaamp IS laamp, just a more recent version
[11:54] <shaantanu> (15:20:43) shaantanu: I tried that linux_user
[11:54] <Ng> all of the xaamp/laamp packages are already available in ubuntu
[11:54] <Ng> installing them externally is not an especially good idea
[11:54] <linux_user400354> shaantanu: why dont you just undo what you did to mess up alsa in the first place?
[11:55] <shaantanu> I am completely clueless .. I even restored the backup of the config file I made
[11:55] <shaantanu> during that ...
[11:55] <linux_user400354> Ng: are you from san antonio?
[11:55] <shaantanu> wait i'll post u the link of what exactly i did
[11:55] <SanketMedhi> jujimufu: install the packages separately using Synaptic, you will get more support
[11:55] <Ng> w
[11:56] <Ng> oops
[11:56] <Ng> linux_user400354: no
[11:56] <jujimufu> SanketMedhi: oh, ok thanks :D
[11:57] <exs> Is the AMD X2 Dual Core 4600+ a big improvement to the singlecore AMD 3200+ ?.. Thanks
[11:57] <KenSentMe> exs: this is the Ubuntu support channel, not #amd or something
[11:58] <Ng> exs: you'd be better off hunting down some benchmarks/reviews in google :)
[11:58] <Csabo2> the 4600 is a big improvement
[11:58] <exs> KenSentMe, was wondering if you ubuntu guys knew about the dual core, and if ubuntu took advantage of this.
[11:58] <Csabo2> however, you'd be stupid to buy an AMD right now
[11:58] <Csabo2> when the conroes are killing
[11:58] <beazely> are ata timeouts a known issue with kernel 2.6.15-26-686? i went back to 2.6.15-25-686 and they stopped, it causes a couple of second system freeze everytime it happens
[11:58] <exs> Csabo2,  what's conroes?
[11:58] <Csabo2> intels new dual core chip
[11:58] <Csabo2> 30% faster than the FX series
[11:59] <exs> Csabo2,  I have an AMD motherboard.
[11:59] <Csabo2> and much cheaper
[11:59] <Csabo2> buy a new one
[11:59] <exs> Csabo2,  and then I've made a purchase roughly the same cost as I would buying an amd chip
[12:00] <Csabo2> i wouldnt willingly buy an inferior chip, but if you dont want to spend a few extra bucks, thats fine too :)
[12:00] <Csabo2> as far as the 4800 goes, what are you going to be doing with the PC
[12:00] <chops-> does anybody here know what the curses package is called that needs to be installed ?
[12:00] <Ng> chops-: are you trying to compile something that needs curses?
[12:00] <chops-> yes i am
[12:00] <Ng> chops-: the actual curses library will already be installed, but if you are compiling you'll need the libncurses5-dev package installed
[12:01] <chops-> ok thanks
[12:01] <chops-> that package is nolonger there
[12:02] <linux_user400354> whats a fakeraid?
[12:02] <L1Nux3R> heey i have problem with the default account oem ihv deleted it and made new user and when i did restartin tried to enter the new details for the new account usename and password gave me message " the home directory for this user not found " now i want to back up the oem user as every thing that i installed was in that home directory /home/oem ?
[12:03] <Ng> chops-: are you running dapper? if so it's definitely there
[12:03] <chops-> maybe not whats the install for that
[12:03] <linux_user400354> anyone know what a fakeraid is?
[12:03] <FirstStrike> google.com
[12:03] <chops-> i had to do a complete reinstall
[12:04] <Ng> !info libncurses5-dev
[12:04] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1276 kB, installed size 5904 kB
[12:05] <Ng> chops-: if your synaptic/apt-get can't see that, there is something wrong with your apt sources
[12:05] <dalfz> could someone please point me to wireless howto with wpa_supplicant?
[12:05] <linux_user400354> !google
[12:05] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[12:05] <linux_user400354> !ubuntu
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:05] <FirstStrike> !wifi
[12:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:06] <linux_user400354> !free
[12:06] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[12:06] <dalfz> thanks
[12:06] <linux_user400354> !fakeraid
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !fake
[12:07] <ubotu> fake: IP address takeover tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.10-1 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 160 kB
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !john
[12:07] <ubotu> john: active password cracking tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6-39ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 536 kB, installed size 1164 kB
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !dsniff
[12:07] <ubotu> dsniff: Various tools to sniff network traffic for cleartext insecurities. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4b1-13 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 360 kB
[12:07] <linux_user400354> !airsnort
[12:07] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[12:07] <shubuntunu> linux_user: sorry I got DC plz see http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[12:07] <shubuntunu> i m shaantanu
[12:08] <shubuntunu> posting with a new nick
[12:08] <shubuntunu> I hope u remeber my prob
[12:08] <chamo> hello
[12:09] <shubuntunu> BTW as I see in my synaptic manager ... I have alsa-base and alsa-utils installed in y system
[12:09] <linux_user400354> shubuntunu: okay, whats your question? you never answered mine. why dont you undo everything you did?
[12:09] <linux_user400354> and restore all backed up files
[12:09] <shubuntunu> Do u reckon , I shud uninstall and reinstall these ??
[12:09] <ofer0> Does this website works for you: shanicreations.co.uk ?
[12:09] <linux_user400354> it wouldnt hurt to try
[12:09] <ofer0> s/works/work/
[12:09] <shubuntunu> I tried restoring the file, it dint work out
[12:10] <shubuntunu> I made a backup of my file as told in the tut
[12:10] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu remove the symbolic link you created
[12:10] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu uninstall any packages you added
[12:11] <shubuntunu> what mixer do u use ??
[12:11] <shubuntunu> alsa or OSS ??
[12:11] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu undo all changes you made
[12:11] <shubuntunu> can u gimme the contents of ur esd.conf and asound.conf
[12:11] <shubuntunu> so that I can restore it ??
[12:12] <shubuntunu> !asound.conf
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu then do then do this `sudo /usr/bin/esd`
[12:13] <shubuntunu> k
[12:13] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu next time dont mess with your sound unless its not working
[12:13] <shubuntunu> it was working but not perfectly well
[12:14] <shubuntunu> it was giving me crackling sound
[12:14] <shubuntunu> anyways
[12:14] <shubuntunu> the command u told me tells me I have a corrupted asound.conf
[12:14] <ofer0> shubuntunu, did you follow the ALSA howto in ubuntuforums.org?
[12:14] <swarm> Does anyone here know of any load-balancing software for Ubuntu? I have multiple internet connections and would like to combine them if possible
[12:14] <shubuntunu> how to restore it ... coz I think the tut dint made a backup of this
[12:14] <shubuntunu> ya
[12:14] <shubuntunu> ofer0
[12:15] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu get it from the ubuntu install cd
[12:15] <linux_user400354> Shubuntu or i can give you mine
[12:15] <Shubuntu> http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/dnpabmi/Result.aspx?&dob=1/11/1990&dom=8/28/2006&age=199&ht=65&wt=115&gender=1&method=0&inchtext=0&wttext=0
[12:15] <shubuntunu> that will be better
[12:15] <ofer0> shubuntunu, next time. when you edit a file - copy it to, lets say, FILENAME.backup, so can restore it later if you break anything, or just want to have a look what has been done.
[12:16] <shubuntunu> hmmm .. i'll do that
[12:16] <Ng> swarm: you can bond some kinds of connections together. google can probably turn something up
[12:16] <linux_user400354> i dont have an asound.conf
[12:16] <shubuntunu> ohh ..
[12:16] <shubuntunu> does ur sound work :D
[12:16] <ofer0> shubuntunu, I don't have this file either. (but I don't use sound, so maybe that's why..)
[12:16] <chops-> looks like my thing is screwd then since the synaptic package thing cant find that curses install
[12:17] <shubuntunu> hmm .. i m in a real mess
[12:18] <ofer0> shubuntunu, if you'll need anything else - please beep me
[12:18] <shubuntunu> ok
[12:18] <shubuntunu> thanks
[12:18] <ofer0> shubuntunu, I'll be back in a couple of minutes
[12:18] <shubuntunu> ya
[12:18] <chops-> what can i do to fix the synaptic installer database ?
[12:18] <ofer0> shubuntunu, hey, can you please ping shanicreations.co.uk and tell me if it works ?
[12:19] <shubuntunu> lets see
[12:19] <ofer0> chops-, run from terminal: aptitude update; aptitude update; aptitude -f install; aptitude upgrade
[12:19] <ofer0> chops-, (add sudo before every "aptitude")
[12:19] <swarm> yup :)
[12:20] <Shubuntu> shubuntunu: where you get that name from?
[12:20] <shubuntunu> yes i can
[12:20] <shubuntunu> ofer0
[12:20] <ofer0> shubuntunu, thanks! where are you from?
[12:21] <shubuntunu> India
[12:21] <ofer0> okay, thank you very much.
[12:21] <shubuntunu> hmm
[12:21] <shubuntunu> shubuntu
[12:21] <dave_v> hi people
[12:21] <Shubuntu> yes?
[12:21] <shubuntunu> shubuntu:my name is shantanu ... just added ubuntu in my middle name and voila
[12:21] <shubuntunu> so whats wid u ??
[12:22] <dave_v> I've got this problem with ubuntu... I installed last-ext, but when I play a radio, the sound skips... anyone knows what's going on?
[12:22] <Shubuntu> shubuntunu, I named my computer shubuntu when I installed ubuntu, since my last name is shaw.
[12:22] <shubuntunu> dave_v : r u sure the sound in rest of the apps works fine ??
[12:22] <shubuntunu> shubuntu : gr8
[12:22] <Thib_G> Hello
[12:22] <ania> hi;)
[12:22] <dave_v> yes
[12:22] <Thib_G> How to enable XDMCP on dapper ?
[12:23] <shubuntunu> dave_v: sorry then
[12:23] <ofer0> Thib_G, gdm.conf
[12:23] <dave_v> shubuntu: I can hear the startup sound and I can use my ipod with rythmbox
[12:23] <ofer0> Thib_G, search for the word "XDMCP" in that file
[12:23] <Thib_G> ofer0: yes, I have enabled it, but I can't connect
[12:23] <ofer0> Thib_G, have you restarted GDM ?
[12:23] <ofer0> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:23] <shubuntunu> hmm .. then ur sound seems to be fine, some problem wid ur radio application
[12:23] <Anubuntu> there. less confusion
[12:23] <Thib_G> ofer0: ok, I'll try
[12:24] <shubuntunu> anubuntu ... how do u change ur nick ??
[12:24] <ofer0> shubuntunu, /nick NEWNICK
[12:24] <Anubuntu> shubuntunu: type /nick <new name>
[12:24] <shubuntunu> k
[12:25] <ofer0> sorry
[12:25] <kyja> how come this cant work in a launcher>? cd ~/hollala/:java -jar hollala.jar
[12:26] <chops-> well it still can't find the "libncurses5-dev" package
[12:27] <ofer0> kyja, you wrote this command: "cd ~/hollala/:java -jar hollala.jar" in a launcher, and it didn't work ?
[12:27] <geser> kyja: because the command in the launcher isn't excuted in a shell
[12:27] <Ng> chops-: are you running dapper?
[12:27] <Anubuntu> Well, im shall get some sleep, talk to you people later.
[12:27] <Ng> chops-: you might want to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin
[12:27] <ofer0> Anubuntu, cya
[12:27] <Anubuntu> ciao
[12:27] <homerh_linux> hiya my kernel just finished compilng and i cant see my module for nvidia i follow all the instruction (i think)  from here (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation_Dapper) where do you think i went wrong
[12:27] <kyja> ifer0: correct.
[12:28] <robd> Hey all
[12:28] <rick-uk> Hi - I wonder if anyone can help me with Nessus? I'm failing at the first step as I get a 'Could notopen connection to localhost' error when I try to start it up
[12:28] <Ng> homerh_linux: the nvidia module is separate, it's not in the kernel
[12:28] <Ng> homerh_linux: it's in the linux-restricted-modules package, or a download from nvidia.com
[12:28] <robd> Does anyone know how I can clear my apt archive cache? Is it alright if I just delete all the dpkgs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ or should I use some tool?
[12:28] <yeager> robd: apt-get autoclean; apt-get clean
[12:29] <ofer0> rick-uk, run nessusd first.
[12:29] <robd> yeager: Ahh, thanks
[12:29] <kyja> from terminal I have to actualy cd myself to the folder or I get class errors with this particular app. I was hopeing to make a launcher to work. doing java -jar ~/hollala/hollala.jar does not work
[12:29] <kyja> or writing as full paths.
[12:29] <darth_tux71> hey
[12:30] <ofer0> kyja, what is the output of the command "which java"?
[12:30] <ofer0> kyja, oh, okay.
[12:30] <rick-uk> I'm using Edubuntu - how do I do that?  Doesn't appear on any of the Application/Places/System menus(Nessus is in Apps/Internet
[12:30] <geser> kyja: try sh -c "cd ~/hollala && java -jar hollala.jar" as launcher
[12:30] <age6racer> hello all, i'm having trouble with automatically mounting a Sata drive. It mounts fine manually.
[12:31] <age6racer> can someone take a look at my fstab and make sure its correct pls?
[12:31] <kyja> =]  thx I will try geser
[12:31] <avis> what desktop environment does Edubuntu use ?
[12:31] <linux_user400354> gnome
[12:31] <chops-> Ng i am kinda lost
[12:31] <rick-uk> GNOME
[12:31] <linux_user400354> but it has some kde apps
[12:31] <avis> how might Edububutu be different than Ubuntu ?
[12:31] <darth_tux71> hello
[12:31] <ofer0> rick-uk, I've never seen a GUI for nessusd, so you'll have to run it from the command line.
[12:31] <kyja> thx geser that works perfect =]
[12:32] <avis> i'll google it
[12:32] <rick-uk> I guessed - just nessusd?
[12:32] <darth_tux71> i have a wee bit of a problem, I have a friend with an old ass PI lappy compaq and i cannot get into the BIOS to set cd to boot, so how in the heck do I make a boot floppy for Ubuntu?
[12:32] <marite_10> hola
[12:33] <marite_10> como estais??
[12:33] <rick-uk> Tried it and get 'command not found'
[12:33] <ofer0> rick-uk, I don't remember. Run "man nessusd", there are probably some instructions how to use it- pretty simple.
[12:33] <ofer0> rick-uk, I see. How did you install nessus ?
[12:33] <darth_tux71> i was able to get Xandros I to boot but there is an error on the cd even xcdroast went quack on a copy, xandros 3 cant find the HD
[12:34] <rick-uk> 'No manual entry for Nessusd'
[12:34] <Assassin5> darth_tux71, compaq bios key is usually F1, F2 or F12, not delete. Try that, but you can create a boot floppy from the install CD.
[12:34] <ofer0> rick-uk, try 'nessusd'
[12:35] <rick-uk> 'Command not found'
[12:35] <age6racer> http://rafb.net/paste/results/s1MwEK54.html here's my fstab
[12:35] <darth_tux71> Assassin5: yeah I tried F1 F2 F10 and if i hit Fun Del I get this little BIOS screen but i cant change any settings
[12:36] <age6racer> I have a read/write directory for the mount point and the name 'hdb' is correct
[12:37] <rick-uk> I just checked - I think I've just got the GTK+ client - how go I get & then install the server?
[12:37] <darth_tux71> the only way i am gonna get linux on this is with a floppy, suse 7.3 quacks, and i cant find my corel Linux 1 floppy anywhere
[12:37] <jrocks> hey , i have ubuntu 5 and i want to upgrade to ubuntu 6 , do i have to download the "Alternate install CD" ?
[12:38] <jrocks> or the normal CD will work ?
[12:38] <ofer0> rick-uk, have you tried "Nessusd" or "nessusd"? the latter is the right one.
[12:38] <ofer0> jrocks, you can just switch your sources.list file, and apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:38] <jrocks> i want to do it using the CD
[12:38] <darth_tux71> 32 bit dapper on an AMD 64 =D
[12:39] <delire> can anyone reccommend a particular USB WIFI card/stick for use with Dapper?
[12:39] <rick-uk> nessusd
[12:40] <ofer0> rick-uk, okay. what is the output of "dpkg -l | grep ii | grep -i nessus; whereis nessus; whereis nessusd" ?
[12:45] <rick-uk> OK - it found nessus and returned nothing for nessusd
[12:45] <exs> how much is a good intel motherboard.
[12:45] <schnepfi> hy
[12:46] <dibblego> how do I delete all occurrences of a directory recursively?
[12:46] <bbrazil> dibblego: rm -rf dirname
[12:46] <dibblego> bbrazil, that won't work recursively
[12:47] <dibblego> there may be more than one occurence of dirname in other subdirectories
[12:47] <schnepfi> ok. i have downloaded amarok 1.4.1 and now i want to install this. but i haven't got a plan how this works. i'm only another newby but i hope you can help me. i got a .tar file
[12:48] <fdoving> dibblego: with all the contents of the directories with the given name?
[12:48] <dibblego> fdoving, correct
[12:49] <shawnr_> fdoving, im confused as to what you are trying to accomplish exactly
[12:49] <schnepfi> shawnr_?
[12:49] <mRCUTEO> hello im newbie user of ubuntu.. i notice i cant gedit / do deb command , anyone can help how do i update my ubtun to have all the lib and command?>
[12:50] <fdoving> dibblego: does this list the dirs you want to delete: find . -type d -name 'directoryname'
[12:50] <dibblego> fdoving, yes
[12:51] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, what do you mean you can't 'gedit' ?
[12:51] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, did you try typing 'gedit' in a terminal?
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> yes
[12:52] <fdoving> dibblego: then append '| xargs rm -ri' at the end. (remove -ri is to ask before every deletion. remove the 'i' to delete without asking).
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> it didnt work
[12:52] <lhds> how to access windows server MSHOME from gnome?
[12:52] <dibblego> fdoving, ah thanks
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> it says no such command
[12:52] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, 'sudo apt-get install gedit'
[12:52] <fdoving> dibblego: you're welcome. find has super powers :)
[12:52] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, are you using ubuntu?
[12:52] <schnepfi> how can i install a .tar file?(i'm another newbie)
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> oh thanks shadow`
[12:52] <mRCUTEO> thanks shawnr_
[12:53] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, are you using gnome? or xfce... kde ?
[12:53] <shawnr_> mRCUTEO, because if you installed ubuntu/gnome gedit would have been installed
[12:53] <mRCUTEO> i install remote
[12:53] <lhds> how to share a folder in gnome?
[12:53] <mRCUTEO> i only have remote access on a openvz guest kernel server
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> oh
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> hold on shawnr_
[12:54] <zithowa> anyone have any idea why putty freezes when I hit CTRL-s when viewing a manpage?
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> root@216:~# cat /etc/issue
[12:54] <mRCUTEO> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l
[12:54] <avis> there was a terminal application that would read keyboard codes upon pressing them does anyone know what that program is so i can assign functions to my keyboard ?
[12:54] <Ng> zithowa: because ctrl-s locks a shell
[12:54] <Ng> zithowa: ctrl-q unlocks it (specifically it's a scroll lock)
[12:55] <schnepfi> how can i install a .tar file?
[12:55] <zithowa> Ng: you have no idea how long i have been restarting sessions because of that
[12:55] <zithowa> thanks so much
[12:55] <Ng> zithowa: it was a long time before I figured that out too, so I wouldn't worry :)
[12:56] <shawnr_> schnepfi, 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials'
[12:56] <zithowa> i also have a few other problems with putty.. it displays some characters incorrectly and replaces them with.. quotation marks i think
[12:57] <shawnr_> schnepfi, in folder read the 'install' or 'readme' file
[12:57] <zithowa> only on my this one ubuntu box :\.  on my school's all characters work
[12:57] <fdoving> schnepfi: i would recommend reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[12:57] <schnepfi> thank's a lot
[12:57] <fdoving> zithowa: ubuntu uses UTF-8 charset by default. I think putty has a select charset option somewhere.. search and you shall find. :)
[12:58] <fdoving> schnepfi: no problem :)
[12:58] <pysiak> hello
[12:58] <sarikan> does anyone know hot to deal with black overlay problem in XGL?
[12:58] <sarikan> I mean how to :)
[12:58] <SanketMedhi> sarikan: go to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:58] <pysiak> zithowa : it does: Window->Translation->Receive data assummed ... ->choose UTF-8
[12:58] <SanketMedhi> !xgl
[12:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:58] <sarikan> When using vmware under XGL it produces a blank screen
[12:59] <shawnr_> sarikan, #xgl or #ubuntu-xgl
[12:59] <xet7> Hi, I got errors when installing vmware player to ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21278   - what to do?
[12:59] <sarikan> thanks shawnr_
[01:00] <shawnr_> xet7, #vmware
[01:01] <pysiak> Suppose I want to start making patched kernels for plain ubuntu users.
[01:01] <pysiak> Ubuntu releases every now and then a new version of the kernel
[01:01] <pysiak> like 2.6.15-23, 2.6.15-27
[01:01] <SanketMedhi> xet7: do you have vmware server installed too?
[01:02] <pysiak> how do I go about building up to date kernels with patches of my own, so that people can use them. this means default ubuntu configs + all the archs
[01:02] <pysiak> for dapper
[01:02] <Urden> does anyone know how to move or copy the trash shortcut in the panel onto the desktop?
[01:02] <xet7> SanketMedhi: no, just the player
[01:03] <irenix> hola
[01:03] <irenix> alguien habla por aqui??
[01:04] <pysiak> habla ingles, speak english
[01:04] <irenix> why??
[01:04] <stuck> hello peeps, what's the default user/pass for dapper alternate OEM version?
[01:05] <pysiak> irenix : it's more likely that someone will answer :-)
[01:05] <xet7> SanketMedhi: ok, I got reply from #vmware to install official tar.gz files from vmware.com.
[01:05] <SanketMedhi> xet7: ok
[01:05] <sioux> hi people mode managed in wlano means there is a key protection?
[01:05] <Urden> irenix, because that's what is spoken in here
[01:05] <SanketMedhi> xet7: actually Vmware player installs fine if you don't have a previous installation of the player or the server on your system
[01:06] <rem_> Hey, my gnome kills all programs I use and restarts gnome from time to time...has anyone had that prob ?
[01:06] <SanketMedhi> xet7: using apt-get is always recommended
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> xet7: but you will get the latest version from the vmware site
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> xet7: your call!
[01:07] <xet7> SanketMedhi: I didn't have previous installation, it gave those errors, and when I started vmware player it said newer version is at vmware.com
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> yeah so?
[01:07] <SanketMedhi> ignore it
[01:07] <stuck> hello peeps, what's the default user/pass for dapper alternate OEM version?
[01:08] <Urden> does anyone know how to move or copy the trash shortcut in the panel onto the desktop?
[01:08] <DrFinn> How do I install Ati Radeon driver 2.28 on Ubuntu ?
[01:09] <kaot> Urden: did you try click & drag?
[01:09] <Urden> Dracon, i have no idea
[01:09] <DrFinn> How do I install Ati Radeon driver 8.28.8 on Ubuntu ?
[01:09] <rsk> !ati
[01:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:09] <kaot> otherwise you've actually got a ~/.Trash directory, you should just be able to create the link on your desktop.
[01:10] <Urden> kaot, yeah
[01:10] <klaount> DrFinn, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[01:11] <Urden> kaot, i can move it from panel to panel, but thats it
[01:11] <Urden> ahh
[01:11] <DrFinn> klaount
[01:12] <jinroh> Gnucash 2.0 Problem - When I run gnucash the following error appears "Could not create per-user Gnome directory </home/username/.gnome/accels> - aborting"  The permission on the .gnome folder is drwx------  Thanks
[01:12] <DrFinn> I tried that ...it doesn`t work
[01:12] <DrFinn> followed the stepps carefully
[01:12] <klaount> DrFinn, it absolutely works
[01:12] <kaot> I've found that peeing directly in the AGP slot does about as much for my graphics performance as installing the ATI drivers has.
[01:12] <klaount> I'm talking about method 2
[01:13] <klaount> what errors did you got?
[01:13] <shawnr_> h4ch3r, did you get edgy? how is it?
[01:13] <h4ch3r> :)
[01:13] <kaot> klaount: I believe I had to get a slightly older version of libgl when I installed the drivers.  I could be misremembering though.
[01:13] <codecaine> anybody know how to get synaptics to work for a touch pad ona  laptop?
[01:13] <kaot> otherwise anything gl just errored all over the place.
[01:13] <codecaine> mouse pad
[01:14] <shawnr_> h4ch3r, how is it?
[01:14] <klaount> kaot, nope, didn't happened to me
[01:14] <codecaine> so the mouse move not senstive to clicking from taps
[01:14] <h4ch3r> wait...
[01:14] <kaot> codecaine: there's a qsynaptics app that can supposedly be used to control that stuff, but I never got it to work
[01:15] <h4ch3r> shawnr_, i'll upgrade of dapper for edgy!
[01:15] <h4ch3r> ;-)
[01:15] <Tokyo> is ubuntu stable on G3 ?
[01:15] <shawnr_> h4ch3r, you did or you going too ?
[01:15] <codecaine> I tried it doesn'twork
[01:15] <Tokyo> :(
[01:15] <h4ch3r> Tokyo, i use ubuntu 6.06 in the G5!
[01:16] <codecaine> its says please install the driver for synaptics
[01:16] <Tokyo> G4 works fine too
[01:16] <kaot> codecaine: ah yes.  same thing mine says.  well, now that I'm doing nothing, I'm gonna try doing just that.
[01:16] <h4ch3r> shawnr_, what?
[01:16] <kaot> (yay, a project.)
[01:16] <h4ch3r> o_O
[01:16] <shawnr_> nrm lol
[01:17] <shawnr_> nvm*
[01:17] <h4ch3r>
[01:17] <DrFinn> klaout  at the command ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper  I end up getting Extraction failed
[01:17] <Urden> thanks kaot
[01:19] <jay__> i ordered my cd's for Dapper... how do i install it?
[01:19] <jay__> if i put it in drive a live cd tries to load
[01:19] <ailean> jay, yep that's right :)
[01:19] <jay__> what am i doing wrong?
[01:19] <ailean> nothing
[01:19] <ailean> do you have a free partition?
[01:19] <jay__> i want to overwrite my windows drive
[01:19] <ailean> jay__, you sure?
[01:20] <jay__> only 40gb
[01:20] <ailean> jay__, everything's backed up?
[01:20] <jay__> kinda small to have fun
[01:20] <jay__> my docs and email yes sir
[01:20] <jay__> :)
[01:20] <ailean> jay__, ok, you should see an "install" button on the desktop
[01:20] <ailean> u on the livecd just now?
[01:20] <lassegs> jay__: Yeah, just boot the Live CD, and press the install icon on the desktop
[01:21] <jay__> no on windows now
[01:21] <ailean> ok
[01:21] <Windy> right, this has got to be the worst opening line ever but...'can somebody help me with a quick newbie issue?'
[01:21] <ailean> jay__, load the livecd and click install - it should be easy to follow it through
[01:21] <jay__> only thing i need is support for podcasts
[01:21] <ailean> but the good thing is that your computer WORKS while you're doing it
[01:21] <Ng> Windy: ask and find out :)
[01:21] <ailean> jay__, podcasts are no prob
[01:21] <Windy> right then
[01:22] <jay__> ailean: do tell
[01:22] <ailean> jay__, u can hook up your ipod too if you have one too
[01:22] <bradbury9> gtkpod includes podcast isn't it?
[01:22] <ailean> ah there are loads of podcast progs
[01:22] <Windy> i'm trying to install MPlayer, I downloaded it and I've got a series of dependencies which aren't satisfied, which is fine. But I get to the point where I have two packages which depend on each other, neither of which will install. Any ideas?
[01:22] <Madeye> Hello, I'm new to freeBSD, actually I'm used to Debian and want to know if there is an apt-get like for freebsd ?
[01:22] <lassegs> jay__ i heard rhythmbox handles it well
[01:22] <ailean> jay__, i use the one in amarok, which is a music player mainly, but has great support for podcasts
[01:22] <DrFinn> Windy ..install Mplayer using synaptic..it will install all the other packages U need
[01:23] <shawnr_> Windy, 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'
[01:23] <lassegs> Madeye: i think thats port but this isnt the right channel for it
[01:23] <ailean> anyone, does the livecd include Xchat?
[01:23] <shawnr_> Windy, 'sudo apt-get install mplayer mplayer-skins mplayer-fonts'
[01:23] <Windy> DrFinn: synaptic doesn't recognise the packages i downloaded
[01:23] <DrFinn> stop manualy downloading and instaling packages ! You have  synaptic you know...
[01:23] <Windy> shawnr_:  where do i type that? terminal?
[01:23] <shawnr_> yes
[01:23] <krazykit> Madeye: ports is pretty much it.  i don't think there's really an apt-like frontend for it though.
[01:23] <jay__> ok... so i can pop in live cd while in windows or reboot with cd in?
[01:23] <ailean> reboot with cd in
[01:24] <shawnr_> jay__, yes
[01:24] <Windy> says it couldn't find the package
[01:24] <jay__> what about ndiswrapper?
[01:24] <DrFinn> I installed mplayer like this: opened Synaptic..searched for mplayer..marked it for instalation and apply..all down hill from there
[01:24] <Windy> hmm
[01:24] <ailean> jay__, ndiswrapper?
[01:24] <shawnr_> Windy, did you enable extra repositories?
[01:24] <Windy> well i looked in synaptic
[01:24] <jay__> i have broadcom wireless card
[01:24] <shinobi2> anyone's ubuntuu bootup screen shows kubuntu instead?
[01:24] <Windy> shawnr_: tried, wouldn't let me access sources.list
[01:24] <Windy> err wouldn't let me save changes i should say
[01:24] <DrFinn> windy
[01:25] <krazykit> shinobi2: you probably installed kubuntu-artwork or kubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <DrFinn> go to Software proprieties and mark extra repositories there
[01:25] <shawnr_> Windy, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[01:25] <Windy> this'd be the day i killed my Ubuntu install 30mins after installing it
[01:25] <ailean> jay__, wireless support is not my strong point - i don't have it
[01:25] <lassegs> Windy: type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <ailean> someone answer :)
[01:25] <shinobi2> krazykit: yes, i installed kubuntu desktop, now try to change the splash screen back but don't know how
[01:25] <shawnr_> Windy, relax, goto this site.. its super easy. just follow step by step http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[01:26] <shawnr_> k im out people
[01:26] <kaot> jay__: ndiswrapper's the way to go in my experience but it kind of depends on exactly whhich chipset you've got
[01:26] <Windy> k
[01:26] <Windy> mm well sources.list is sorted
[01:26] <kaot> jay__: I've got 4318 rev 2 and ndiswrapper was the only way that worked.
[01:26] <jay__> i think i have 4318
[01:27] <kaot> jay__: problem is 6.06 will helpfully load a non-working broadcom kernel driver for you and mess up your day.
[01:28] <bradbury9> has anyone suceeded installing america's army or quake2 or enemy territory on amd64?  I get this message
[01:28] <bradbury9> XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 800x600
[01:28] <bradbury9> Using 8/8/8 Color bits, 24 depth, 0 stencil display.
[01:28] <bradbury9> X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[01:28] <ailean> bradbury9, try the windows version under wine. supposed to work very well
[01:29] <bradbury9> it also says GLXBadContext
[01:29] <bradbury9> thanks ailean
[01:30] <Windy> hmm
[01:30] <jay__> wish me luck here i go
[01:30] <Windy> mplayer still isn't showing up
[01:30] <Windy> the universe repos are enabled
[01:31] <Windy> nvm
[01:31] <Windy> my bad
[01:31] <DrFinn> I can`t install the damn ati radeon 8.28 drivers! followed the tutorial exactly
[01:31] <bradbury9> Windy apt-cache search mplayer. Doesn't show anything?
[01:31] <Windy> it shows kmplayer
[01:31] <Windy> nvm
[01:31] <Windy> turns out i didn't save the changes to sources.list
[01:31] <Windy> even though i swear i did :/
[01:31] <Windy> eh go figure i must be getting old
[01:31] <jinroh> Windy:  go here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:32] <Zonoid> Does anyone know why my computer hangs on "Mounting root file system" when I try to start Linux from a Live CD?
[01:32] <Windy> jinroh: i did.
[01:33] <Jamo> how do I get ImageCreateFromJPEG() to work in php 5
[01:33] <lassegs> Zonoid try booting without acpi?
[01:33] <Zonoid> Lassegs: How do I do that?
[01:33] <DrFinn> hey ..a little help! I installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS .. at first boot ran an update check and updated all 163 packages..rebooted then followed the tutorial on installing Ati raden drivers 8.28 using method 2 ..got stuck on "./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" command ..result..extraction failed
[01:34] <rr> Jamo : did you install the libgd2 package and the gd php extension ?
[01:34] <Jamo> rr: I did sudo apt-get install php5-gd
[01:34] <Jamo> & it restarted apache2, is there more I need to do? like enable it?
[01:35] <SanketMedhi> Jamo: edit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[01:35] <rr> jamo: check if the gd libs are installed : dpkg -L | grep libgd
[01:35] <SanketMedhi> Jamo: search for gd.so and uncomment the line
[01:35] <TMM> hi all!
[01:35] <Zonoid> How would I run Ubuntu without acpi?
[01:36] <TMM> question: does anyone know if the linux quota system supports per-directory quotas on the same filesystem?
[01:36] <rr> SanketMedhi : true dat, but isn't that enabled by default ?
[01:36] <Jamo> rr: dpkg -L | grep libgd says --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[01:36] <Qball> acpi=off passed to the kernel (or something like that)
[01:36] <TMM> or if there's any project/something that makes that possible?
[01:36] <SanketMedhi> rr: I don't think so
[01:36] <SanketMedhi> rr: in fact, I am sure it isn't
[01:36] <Windy> mmm that's odd
[01:36] <Zonoid> Qball: But how do you pass something to the kernel? Ubuntu is my first Linux distro. I'm a n00b :-)
[01:36] <Windy> it tells me mplayer package is not avail.
[01:36] <rr> jamo : sorry use lower case "l" : dpkg -l
[01:36] <Windy> probably explain why it hasn't been working so far tho :(
[01:37] <Qball> Zonoid: why do you want to run withouth acpi?
[01:37] <Zonoid> Qball: My computer hangs for a long time at "Mounting root file system" and then gives an error. Eventually, it will get to the splash screen. And it doesn't go any further.
[01:37] <Jamo> yeah it is installed
[01:37] <Mick7> hello
[01:37] <skyonex> Hello. I can't find in my ubuntu 6.06 my favourite Midnight Commander. And I can't find it in Synaptic. What should I do? Or I should install konsole? Maybe there is other good file manager I may install from synaptic?
[01:37] <Jamo> *looking for gd.so in the php.ini, don't knwo how to search with nano
[01:38] <kaot> no midnight commander?!
[01:38] <void^> !info mc
[01:38] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[01:38] <Qball> Zonoid: eeuh you can edit the options passed to the kernel with grub.
[01:38] <gnomefreak> !mc
[01:38] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[01:38] <Qball> but you hsould look up a howto on that
[01:38] <klaount> skyonex, MC is in the repos I think, you could also try Krusader
[01:38] <Zonoid> Qball: Do you have any other simpler fixes for this problem?
[01:38] <kaot> yeah midnight commander is in there, package name mc
[01:38] <Jamo> Sanket: I found extension =gd.so uncommented already
[01:38] <Qball> Zonoid: with this little info, no
[01:39] <Windy> anyone know of MPlayer has gone AWOL?
[01:39] <Zonoid> I'll tell you what the error says, but I'll have to wait for the computer to get there.
[01:39] <rr> Jamo : create a php file with the following commands in it :  <? phpinfo(); ?>
[01:39] <Jamo> rr: it is installed
[01:39] <Mick7> somebody could tell me a GPU nvidia that sure go with ubuntu?
[01:39] <Jamo> done: http://tdmi.ironlog.com/photos/info.php
[01:40] <Jamo> it says nothing about gd
[01:40] <rr> Jamo: open the file in ur browser
[01:40] <lassegs> Zonoid: its hanging from disk install or live cd?=
[01:40] <lassegs> Zonoid: sorry, i left the computer for a sec
[01:40] <Jamo> rr: done
[01:40] <rr> Jamo : it shows u the installed modules
[01:41] <Jamo> rr: yeah so how do I get gd installed?
[01:41] <Mick7> if i change motherboard i must re-install linux and windows?
[01:41] <lupine_> Mick7: probably not
[01:41] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Yes.
[01:41] <rr> Jamo : it is installed yes ?
[01:41] <jrib> !hardware > Mick7
[01:41] <Zonoid> Lassegs: It's hanging from a Live CD.
[01:41] <lassegs> Zonoid: Yes? Live-cd or harddisk?
[01:41] <lassegs> Zonoid: ok
[01:41] <Zonoid> Sorry :-)
[01:41] <Jamo> rr: no, the info page says nothing about gd
[01:41] <rr> Jamo: gd module loaded ?
[01:41] <lupine_> linux def. not as long as you're using the default kernel. windows "should" cope, but... yeah. it's windows ;)
[01:42] <kaot> yeh I've swapped a hard drive with a linux install into a totally different system and it mostly worked fine, except for nic drivers and the obvious stuff like that.
[01:42] <rr> Jamo : hmm ok, did u restart apacje after adding the php-gd package ?
[01:42] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Eventually it goes to an error and even later it goes to the splash screen. It never gets any further than that.
[01:42] <Jamo> rr: yes, and I restarted the server too
[01:42] <Mick7> i've one drive
[01:42] <rr> Jamo : u probaly did, but to be sure
[01:42] <Mick7> with kubuntu
[01:42] <lassegs> Zonoid: if you press F6 or something in the liveCD boot options window, you get more options. look for boot with acpi disabled. just see what happens
[01:42] <Mick7> and xp
[01:42] <Windy> hmm got it
[01:43] <Windy> thanks for the help guys.
[01:43] <Jamo> np i'll do it again
[01:43] <lassegs> Zonoid: im no expert but i got hte same error with Damn Small Linux once, and that helped
[01:43] <rr> Jamo : hold on a minute , i'll check here
[01:43] <bradbury9> Zonoid n some distros is noacpi
[01:43] <matilda> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[01:43] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I'll try. Thanks.
[01:43] <Jamo> GRRRRRRRRRR
[01:44] <Jamo> rr: I restarted it once, it restarted it when it installed the mod!!! but I just restarted it and that did it
[01:44] <Jamo> rr: NFC< but thank you
[01:44] <Zonoid> What is the code for no acpi?
[01:44] <Zonoid> It needs me to type something.
[01:44] <rr> Jamo : lol , ok
[01:44] <bradbury9> when you run te cd
[01:44] <lassegs> Zonoid: i think F5 or 4 gives you a list of commands
[01:45] <bradbury9> at the first screen
[01:45] <bradbury9> you can press direfent keys
[01:45] <bradbury9> (enter default)
[01:45] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Oh. Okay.
[01:45] <bradbury9> F1 to F4 diferent parameters
[01:45] <elias__> when I install vmware-player in dapper what else do I have to do to establish connectivity between a vmware image and dapper?
[01:46] <elias__> using endian firewall 2.0 image
[01:46] <matilda> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[01:46] <lassegs> Zonoid: i think it is acpi=off
[01:47] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I did it. It's pci=noacpi
[01:47] <Zonoid> It looks like it's still hanging though.
[01:48] <lassegs> Zonoid: try acpi=off
[01:48] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Okay.
[01:48] <elias__> any vmware know-how around?
[01:49] <chops-> when something says build and then install i know i have to do make then make install but whats build
[01:49] <jrib> !compile > chops-
[01:49] <Zonoid> Lassegs: That didn't do it either. I think it has something to do with the external cd rom drive for my laptop that is running the Live CD.
[01:50] <lukus001> Can someone help, I cant uninstall VMware player from my system, synaptic returns "E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[01:50] <lukus001> "
[01:50] <lassegs> Zonoid: what kind of harddisk u got?
[01:51] <erofee> hi guys and girls
[01:51] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I don't know. It's a laptop from 1998/1999
[01:51] <DrFinn> I need the link to the Ati driver instalation guide please!
[01:51] <erofee> can anyone tell me what packages i need to install to play mp3's?
[01:51] <lassegs> Zonoid: how about trying the 'debug' argument?
[01:52] <jrib> !mp3 > erofee
[01:52] <Zonoid> You just type "debug" into the code area?
[01:52] <matilda>  Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[01:52] <erofee> thankyou
[01:52] <lassegs> Zonoid= as far as i can tell yes
[01:53] <avis> is fs-driver for xp the only ext3 sharing driver for linux and windows partitions ?  i'm afraid that driver install wont work with my 64 bit installation of windows
[01:53] <Zonoid> Lassegs: It did a bunch of checks very quickly, but then it went to the Ubuntu screen and froze at that same part again.
[01:54] <jrib> avis: there is a program called explore2fs that will let you view your ext3 partitions.  I am not sure if this will work with 64bit either though
[01:54] <lassegs> Zonoid: trying to press alt ctrl F1  sends you nowhere?
[01:54] <avis> thank you
[01:54] <lassegs> avis: do you need a partition to write to from both linux and windows?
[01:54] <Zonoid> Lassegs: If you mean while it's hanging, it didn't do anything.
[01:55] <tuxtux> ciao
[01:55] <lassegs> Zonoid: yes that was what i meant. im sorry, i dont know what you are supposed to do. but as i sead earlier, im no expert. get an expert to help you
[01:56] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Okay. Well, thanks for helping me as best you could!
[01:56] <lassegs> Zonoid: of course
[01:57] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Alt Ctrl F1 looks like it does to something. I must have done it the wrong way last time.
[01:57] <lassegs> Zonoid: hey hey! u get to a terminal?
[01:57] <perl_cont> hey
[01:57] <Zonoid> Lassegs: It hangs on "fb0 VGA16 vga frame buffer device"
[01:57] <avis> lassegs, yes i do
[01:57] <lassegs> avis: then fat32 is still the best choice for you
[01:57] <lassegs> Zonoid: there you go!
[01:57] <avis> ok
[01:58] <lassegs> Zonoid: give me a sec
[01:58] <lukus001> Can someone help, I cant uninstall VMware player from my system, synaptic returns "E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"   and now every time I install something via apt-get or synaptic vmware player keeps getting reinstalled
[01:58] <Zonoid> Lassegs: And then it says a bunch of things and hangs at "hdc: drive not ready for command"
[01:58] <lassegs> Zonoid: what does it say on hda and hdb?
[01:59] <lassegs> lukus001: just type apt-get remove VMware player   to stop it from trying to reinstall all the time
[01:59] <ircleuser> Lassegs Sorry. I have a trial version of an IRC client. It quits every 30 minutes.
[02:00] <asdf> ircleuser: try irssi
[02:00] <lukus001> lassegs but it keeps returning that error and wont let me
[02:00] <lassegs> lukus001: sudo apt-get install -f  ?
[02:01] <lukus001> lassegs tried that before yes...
[02:01] <lassegs> ircleuser: change nick i get really confused :P
[02:01] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Sorry about that :-)
[02:02] <lassegs> Zonoid: what does it say on hda and hdb?
[02:02] <dalila> what is latest firefox on 6.0.6?
[02:02] <lukus001> Lassegs. is there anyway i can take vmware player off the synaptic records and manually delete all vmware folders?
[02:02] <r0wd3> Hello All
[02:03] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I'll check.
[02:03] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I also noticed it said "idc-cd: cmd 0x28 timed out"
[02:03] <r0wd3> Can some one tell me about the imcompatibility issues surounding Ubuntu and the Asrock brand of motherboards
[02:03] <matilda>  Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[02:06] <dalila> what is latest firefox on 6.0.6?
[02:06] <MorphDK> I know there are a lot of guides for Ubuntu and XGL/Compiz, but which is the best? They are doing the things in different ways :/
[02:06] <jrib> dalila: 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06.1
[02:07] <fdoving> MorphDK: i suggest asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:07] <dalila> jcrib:thxs
[02:07] <MorphDK> :D
[02:07] <MorphDK> nice
[02:07] <skyonex> I type: 'apt-get install name_of_app' And get that: 'unable to lock the administartion directory (/var/lib/dpkg) Are you root?' But I don't know root password. When I installed ububtu it has asked me only one time to type my password for my username. What I doing wrong?
[02:07] <jrib> skyonex: sudo apt-get intall name_of_app
[02:07] <dalila> skyonex: use sudo
[02:07] <jrib> !sudo > skyonex
[02:07] <skyonex> thank you
[02:08] <lukus001> Does anyone know how to forcefully remove an appliaction from synaptic's list because I have a program which wont install properly or uninstall from my system and it keeps trying to install every bloody time i install soemthing
[02:08] <dalila> !root > skyonex
[02:08] <r0wd3> Can some one tell me about the imcompatibility issues surounding Ubuntu and the Asrock brand of motherboards
[02:08] <dalila> is there any hope to get a lexmark z45 working with ubuntu/linux  seems not to work with any linux
[02:09] <Zonoid> Lassegs: I fixed it! I had to type ide=nodma
[02:09] <jrib> dalila: have you checked linuxprinting.org?
[02:10] <skyonex> skyonex@skyonex-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install bluefish
[02:10] <skyonex> Password:
[02:10] <skyonex> E:        /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:10] <skyonex> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? :-(
[02:10] <jrib> skyonex: do you have synaptic open or some other apt program?
[02:11] <dalila> jcrib: i did check but its not listed
[02:11] <RichEd> hello ... question about end user desktop requirements: how do we respond when someone says they want KDE desktop ? what's our response to that ... especially vs other variants where people can chose ?
[02:11] <srn> kubuntu?
[02:11] <skyonex> jrib: Yes. Now close. Thank you. Now working :-)
[02:11] <jrib> skyonex: have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[02:11] <jrib> dalila: ^ was for you :)
[02:11] <bradbury9> skyonex, close synaptics
[02:11] <lamego> RichEd, you ask them why, if they have a good reason you install it for them :)
[02:12] <jrib> RichEd: /msg ubotu kde
[02:12] <Elda> RichEd, sounds like its all up to choice at least to me
[02:12] <Elda> err user preference
[02:12] <RichEd> srn & lamego: yep ... but when it gets to language & application support & access to developer communities, we are much fuller in GNOME
[02:12] <jrib> RichEd: I would just install both and let them try both
[02:12] <Mkquist> RichEd, i guess u can always just let them know that,then their choice
[02:13] <dalila> but will probably not work with inkjet or all-in-one printers.  :-(
[02:13] <Mkquist> y not both gnome/kde? anyway?
[02:13] <delire> r0wd3: was there some problem with IRQ assignments and ACPI?
[02:13] <RichEd> req: a russian country wants to deploy 32,000 machines, with paid LT support, and help with localisation etc.
[02:13] <RichEd> especially educational desktop support
[02:13] <lamego> RichEd, i am not aware the KDE language support is differente from gnome...
[02:13] <lamego> but i dont use it
[02:14] <RichEd> we are *much*  better in the Edubuntu area than Kubuntu for this level of relationship
[02:14] <delire> r0wd3: if so, that is easily fixed. just provide acpi=off in your boot argument.
[02:14] <r0wd3> Is it really that simple?
[02:14] <lamego> RichEd, as far as I know, there is no paid support for KDE
[02:15] <RichEd> lamego: that's my issue :)
[02:15] <jrib> dalila: also, you can try similar printers in the "add printer" dialog and it may work
[02:16] <RichEd> pschulz01: I lead the Education Programme for Canonical and am trying to close a major project deal in an ex USSR country. As above, not a trivial requirement.
[02:16] <lamego> RichEd, that should be an argument enough for people needing paid support :)
[02:16] <dalila> jcrib:ubuntu identifies the printer correctly but it tries to use the z42 driver,  then all print stays in queue both with cups and gnome gui
[02:16] <RichEd> sorry pschulz01 your nick autocompleted :( apologies for the non sequitar
[02:16] <lamego> RichEd, KDE is not an option on your case :)
[02:17] <sioux> hi people i have a unstable working with zyxel g-220 wireless usb adapter. The driver is already installed on dapper. when I do ifconfig wlan0 up and it goes up works ok but after some it goes off and if I retry the up command says me wlan error inferface flags no such device but the zd1211 module is still loaded. Any ideas?
[02:17] <RichEd> lamego ... thanks ... agree with all of the comments ... just that if *they* insist i don't want to make them go away
[02:18] <lamego> RichEd, you could debate why do they ask for KDE
[02:18] <matilda> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[02:18] <lamego> RichEd, I am sure they have a reason you can argue with
[02:18] <Elda> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu? >.<
[02:18] <visik7> how can I contact backports team ?
[02:18] <srn> kubuntu is default kde
[02:18] <Elda> Ah hah
[02:19] <lamego> srn, the issue is, there is no paid support for kubuntu...
[02:19] <dalila> jcrib:all i see is caldera open linux http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:0:0:0
[02:19] <Elda> Well Im happy with gnome for now hehe, it has a "warmer" feel to if you will xD
[02:19] <srn> lamego: comment was pointed at Elda
[02:20] <RichEd> Elda: Ubuntu is Gnome, standard version ; Edubuntu is Gnome, education bundle ; Kubuntu is KDE, education bundle
[02:20] <lamego> ops sorry :P
[02:20] <sioux> no help?
[02:20] <Elda> Ah hah
[02:20] <lamego> sioux, no idea, i don't own such equipment
[02:20] <RichEd> only real argument for KDE is that it looks more like M$ ... for the brainwashed masses
[02:21] <sioux> :-(
[02:21] <Elda> Was going to say that it reminded me of windows but did not know if I would be making an accurate statement
[02:21] <srn> it can look more like m$ .. it is it's strength that it can look almost like anythin
[02:21] <lamego> RichEd, with some customization you can get a windows alike gnome
[02:21] <Elda> Question is, would you want to?
[02:21] <RichEd> lamego: yes, but then again support becomes an issue ...
[02:21] <Dimensions> hi how can i add a script for auto start on startup
[02:22] <Elda> Only thing Id like to figure out how to do is give my windows key a function in here xD
[02:22] <lamego> RichEd, not really, we are talking about themes and menu customizations, that must be covered by a support agreement, thats just desktop customization
[02:22] <lamego> RichEd, support is not bind to themes...
[02:22] <bimberi> Dimensions: add it to /etc/rc.local  - note that it will run as superuser
[02:23] <srn> it's funny how every guide tells me how to get 85hz.. but none one tells me how to get 60hz .. when that is when my monitor displays a better picture
[02:23] <lamego> as long you keep with the main packages, you are keeping supported versions
[02:23] <Elda> Is there a way that I can make it so that the windows key can be used to open my applications menu rather than having it do nothing?
[02:23] <lamego> srn, maybe its because your situation is very unileky, and it goes again the definition of refresh rate, the higher, the best is the image
[02:23] <lamego> unlikely
[02:24] <srn> hehe yeah i know
[02:24] <srn> but unfortunally this really hurts my eyes
[02:24] <RichEd> lamego: real issue for me is "why bend something to look like something else" when the kids will be happy with anything ..,. that's the d@mn pity that the first suggestion is usually M$ and then KDE becomes a step to the left as a "substitute", but the real qudience (i.e. green kids) would be happy to start with anything and learn from scratch.
[02:24] <RichEd> *audience
[02:25] <RichEd> but, in the words of bob dylan and many gospel choirs "we shall overcome"
[02:25] <RichEd> thanks all.
[02:25] <pschulz01> RichEd: np.
[02:26] <Elda> Yep.... thinking back I always wondered if I would have learned linux just as easily if Id been introduced to that rather than learning about windows through exposure
[02:26] <Elda> Heck when I got my first computer a lot of it was through a shell and a dos command line >.<
[02:26] <srn> i am 100% sure that if one were introduced to linux at first... they would go, hey that windows is all "LOLZ!! oneone ERROR"
[02:26] <Elda> still M$ but still
[02:27] <stojmir> hi
[02:27] <stojmir> i want to set up an ubuntu mirror
[02:27] <RichEd> Elda: if you're interested my argument is: start kids with Linux - they can go anywhere : start with Window$ and they become predjudiced
[02:27] <stojmir> can you point some instructions ?
[02:27] <Elda> LoL well as I get used to Linux, I think I may just keep windows around for games
[02:27] <fredl> aaaah, I FINALLY got my X700 Pro graphics board fully working again.
[02:28] <fredl> it turned out not to be a software/config problem but something as trivial as a broken fan -> RAM gets warm -> Video card messes up
[02:28] <lamego> RichEd, well, you could go over that, KDE or GNOME are just "skins" :P
[02:28] <fredl> ehr fgl_glxgears
[02:28] <Elda> I know, I started with windows.  But then again when I tried to get into linux at first I was scared away a few times... not just because of the idea that linux was something completely new but some of the attitudes I ran into while trying to understand/learn it
[02:28] <RichEd> Elda : as in Linux @ school -> Unix, Linux (hardcore sciences career or open minded commercial) or Linux @ school -> Window$ ata  conservative commercial company
[02:29] <fredl> Elda - that's not unusual.
[02:29] <Elda> Then thank god someone showed me Ubuntu which had some DECENT people willing to say a line besides RTFM
[02:29] <RichEd> but Window$  @ school normally -> Window$ forever :(
[02:29] <srn> trylleklovn@sherlock:~$ glxgears
[02:29] <srn> 25829 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5165.749 FPS
[02:29] <fredl> fgl_glxgears srn. That's something different.
[02:29] <Mkquist> srn-did u get an answer on the windows key thing?
[02:29] <srn> oh :D
[02:29] <srn> windows key?
[02:29] <Dimensions> bimberi: i have tried adding script into auto run on startup in rc.local ... but it isn't working ... i have one user account which i created while installing windows and another would be root ... so how can i setup this to the user account i had created by default ...
[02:30] <Elda> That was me wondering about that
[02:30] <fredl> fgl_glxgears is quite a bit heftier 3D than glxgears :)
[02:30] <Mkquist> sry
[02:30] <Elda> An nope, no answer >.,
[02:30] <srn> where can i get fgl_glcgears?'
[02:30] <srn> glx*
[02:30] <Mkquist> kde or gnome?
[02:30] <fredl> it comes with the ATI driver.
[02:30] <srn> ahh
[02:30] <Elda> Gnome
[02:31] !lilo:*! Hi all. New channel:  ##fuse, an unofficial discussion channel for the Linux kernel's FUSE userspace filesystem framework. If you're interested in FUSE applications etc., please stop by! Thanks.
[02:31] <bradbury9> stojmir, try in #ubuntu-mirrors ;-)
[02:31] <Mkquist> ok, i found a nice tut for kde, not sure about gnome tho, shows how to map keys
[02:31] <fredl> aaah, the bliss of running googleworld now
[02:31] <Mkquist> maybe nm then
[02:31] <Elda> ?
[02:31] <Elda> Oh well
[02:31] <Elda> Ill figure it out later, hehe
[02:31] <Mkquist> sry
[02:32] <Elda> So many things to learn!
[02:32] <Elda> No problem :)
[02:32] <fredl> that runs a LOT faster when you have hardware 3D again!!
[02:32] <Elda> Ive still got to start learning the command line
[02:32] <Healot> yes, Elda
[02:32] <Elda> I know/memorized a few things
[02:32] <bimberi> Dimensions: pardon? installing windows? did you add the script call before the line "exit 0" in rc.local?
[02:32] <Dimensions> another question is ... how can i auto login by default from shell instead of GUI Login windows (System-->> Preferences -->>Security -->Enable automatic) login
[02:32] <Dimensions> bimberi sorry by windows i meant OS
[02:33] <Elda> sudo, apget, mdir, cd, -mann, and that is about it so far >.>
[02:33] <Dimensions> yes i did bimberi ...
[02:33] <Healot> window
[02:33] <Mkquist> Elda-http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=62 explains a bit
[02:33] <lamego> Dimensions, what are you tring to achieve ?
[02:33] <Healot> Windows is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corp :)
[02:33] <Mkquist> Elda-on the windows key question
[02:33] <Thunderpants> what is the switch option for glxgears to print ur framerate, something like glxgears - printframerate?
[02:34] <Dimensions> two things lamego ... one to auto start my script incase system power failure and second Enable remotely the Automatic login option for my computers which i can access via SSH ...
[02:34] <mistraal> -printfps
[02:34] <bimberi> Dimensions: if you want it to run when the user logs into the shell you can add it to .bash_profile in their home directory
[02:34] <Thunderpants> thx mistraal
[02:35] <bimberi> Dimensions: idk about auto-shell-login-at-boot though sorry
[02:37] <Dimensions> can u tell me how ... bimberi ? (.bash_profile)
[02:37] <lamego> Dimensions, why do you need to autologin in case of a power failure ?
[02:37] <webben> Would it be possible to increase the size of my swap partition
[02:38] <webben> according to top it's mostly being used up
[02:38] <sioux> Hi people I have a problem with ZD1211 driver provided on ubuntu it is unstable with my zyxel g-220 usb adapter, once I do wlan0 up it works ok but some after goes down and I can't up it anymore due to no such device. In dmesg I see these reports: when I set wlan0 up the dmesg says usbcore: registred new driver zd1211. When crash zd1205 (exit) zd1205_close, drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zd1205.c line 2696. Looking in dmesg I get also wlan0 (WE) : Driver
[02:38] <bimberi> Dimensions: edit it and add the call to the script
[02:38] <lamego> webben, it is, you will need to resize your paritions or crate file based swap
[02:39] <lamego> webben, what mem do you have and swap size ?
[02:39] <Elda> Well Ive got to go, class awaits.  Its been fun!
[02:40] <Dimensions> lamego ... well i have deployed some computer some where ... if power failure occurs and system reboots ... i can't manually login so i want to enable auto login for those systems ...
[02:40] <webben> lamego: about 312mb mem, 490mb or something swap
[02:41] <johnnybezak> hey guys, my gnome install has become broken. every time i boot into gnome iit pops up a bunch of errors about bonobo and gnome-settings-daemon, whats a good way of reinstalling gnome without having to reinstall a heap of other stuff?
[02:41] <lamego> Dimensions, why do you need to autologin to login ?
[02:42] <srn> hmm... okay i certainly improved my monitors setting now.. think it was the horizontal refreshrate that was set wrong
[02:42] <lamego> webben, ok, the standard rule is to have 2xmem as swap
[02:42] <srn> now the picture is sharp again :)
[02:42] <delire_> Dimensions: there's a gnome-session config file that allows you to set auto-login.
[02:42] <webben> lamego: what command should i be using to safely resize my partitions?
[02:42] <Dimensions> come up with a solution lamego ... can we disable login ? if system is starting it will come to login screen and ask for login etc ...
[02:42] <webben> lamego: a gui tool would be nice if one's available
[02:43] <Dimensions> delire_:  im accessing the computer via ssh ... how can i do that ?
[02:43] <Dimensions> i mean setting auto login
[02:44] <delire_> Dimensions: i don't know where the file is, i'm on Debian here. i'll have a look on another machine, hangon.
[02:44] <lamego> webben, boot from the live cd
[02:44] <lamego> and use the gnome partition editor
[02:44] <lamego> webben, never tried it myself, be carefull :P
[02:44] <Dimensions> thanks delire_
[02:45] <webben> lamego: it's not possible to do that from rescue mode or the install cd is it? my laptop with the CD writer is currently out of service thanks to a broken power cable
[02:46] <lamego> webben, i dont believe the text mode install cd allows to do resizing, i am not sure
[02:47] <h4ch3r> i see guys
[02:47] <Healot> you see what?
[02:48] <Phirax> has, anyone managed to get AUX in working with alsa?
[02:48] <delire_> Dimensions: try editing /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:49] <delire_> Dimensions: edit the line to "AutomaticLoginEnable=true" and add a username for "AutomaticLogin=<USERNAME>"
[02:50] <webben> lamego: thanks
[02:50] <kevor> Hi, after loggin in with GDM, my computer hangs for about 5 minutes...
[02:50] <Dimensions> thank you delire_ im trying it now ...
[02:51] <kevor> before i see the menu's and scuh, anyone a clue what this can be?
[02:54] <rr> kevor : no idea, but did have a look at the console when it's "hanging" ? try ctrl-alt-f1
[02:54] <kevor> rr: i've got /var/log/messages online: www.kev0r.nl/wtf
[02:54] <kevor> it's doing some strange gconf related stuff i guess
[02:55] <Dimensions> brb guys
[02:55] <kevor> bb
[02:55] <kevor> but after 5 minutes, the menu DOES get launched... :)
[02:57] <rr> kevor : do you get the slowness only at the first login after boot ?
[02:58] <rr> kevor : or every time
[02:58] <rr> kevor : i've no clue anyways ...
[03:00] <ramvi> I'm following a howto, to get Ubuntu to work on my new macbook pro (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233243). Where I'm suppost to get and install the modified version of grub onto the real HD (not the livecd-HD), I don't understand how I'm suppost to get the file chmoded... wget THE-FILE returns Resolving www.ubuntuforums.org... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution... Any ideas?
[03:01] <Thaur> ramvi, Why do you want to use Ubuntu, if you have OSX ?
[03:01] <bradbury9> ramvi check /etc/resolv.conf in the chroot
[03:02] <ramvi> Thaur, Ubuntu is so much better
[03:02] <Windy> *sigh* another hour, another newbie question...can someone tell me how to stop a drive from being shown on desktop? even better to stop linux from even bothering to acknowledge the drive's existence?
[03:02] <White-air> hi
[03:02] <ramvi> bradbury9: what do you mean with check it?
[03:02] <White-air> what is that for a channel?
[03:03] <Healot> what is what, White-air ?
[03:03] <bradbury9> it must exist and contain the dns server IP address
[03:03] <Thaur> ramvi, [not starting a war or anything]  Why do you think that?
[03:03] <White-air> taht channel what about it?
[03:03] <ramvi> First of all; it runs windows applications
[03:03] <rr> ramvi : try ping www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:03] <ramvi> And there's XGL
[03:03] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:04] <bradbury9> in the gentoo install manual they copy the etc/resolv.conf into the chroot enviroment
[03:04] <White-air> here is a good site
[03:04] <ramvi> rr:
[03:04] <ramvi> ping: unknown host www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:04] <Thaur> ramvi, mmmmh, XGL <3 :P. Good points. I thought you could get Wine for OSX ?
[03:04] <White-air> its a mistake you must often go on it
[03:04] <ramvi> Thaur: I didn't know that
[03:04] <orbin> Windy: run gconf-editor ... then navigate to /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible and disable it
[03:04] <rr> ramvi : u need to fix ur dns resolving , like bradbury9 mentioned
[03:05] <Q-FUNK> is there an offocial tool in ubuntu (gnome) to list all avalable wifi access points?
[03:05] <ramvi> rr: Okay..? :) Thanks by the way..
[03:05] <ramvi> rr: but what do I do?
[03:05] <Linuturk_code> Q-FUNK, network manager
[03:05] <ramvi> Q-FUNK: get nm-applet
[03:05] <Thaur> ramvi, I might be wrong, but I Can't see why there woulden't be one
[03:05] <rr> ramvi : enter the ip address of your providers name server in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:06] <d2812> can anybody recomend a usb bluetooth dongle that will work in dapper?
[03:06] <ramvi> rr: My ISP's IP? How do I get that? :P
[03:06] <Healot> d2812, any i would say
[03:06] <Q-FUNK> ramvi: thanks :)
[03:06] <esculapius> hi ,anyone could help me to install ati drivers for my ATI mobile U1 on Ubuntu Dapper? is it necessary to activate S-video (tvout)? True? i followed the wiki but changing xorg.conf at the rebooting the OS started in text mode, saying that the video card was not correctly configured
[03:06] <bradbury9> not your ISP but your DNS IP
[03:06] <ramvi> Q-FUNK: Any time :)
[03:06] <rr> a line that says : nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[03:06] <crouchingMonkey> is there a way to reset all of my icons and menus to a default in ubuntu 5.10 ? my sister sortta messed them up
[03:06] <d2812> Healot: Cool. Just wanted to check first :) Thanks.
[03:07] <Q-FUNK> ramvi: does this also handle hotplugging of network devces?
[03:07] <bradbury9> ramvi, try cp /etc/resolv.conf /path-to-chroot/etc/resolv.conf
[03:07] <Healot> d2812, so far no incompatibiltity found
[03:07] <rr> ramvi : lol no, the ip of your nameserver :-)
[03:07] <bradbury9> bye!
[03:08] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:08] <White-air> zvote for us
[03:08] <Healot> wtf?
[03:09] <ramvi> When trying to copy I get: cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/ubuntu/etc/resolv.conf': No such file or directory
[03:09] <ramvi> rr: How do I get the IP of my nameserver? ;)
[03:09] <ramvi> Q-FUNK: hotplugging?
[03:10] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:10] <White-air> VOTEN
[03:10] <Thunderpants> !ops
[03:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:10] <orbin> ramvi: what command did you use to copy?
[03:10] <ramvi> When I'm chmoded into my realHD. How do I get a file from the livecd-HD?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> Thunderpants: ?
[03:10] <White-air> PLEASE VOTE
[03:10] <White-air> http://neighbours-clan.de.tt/
[03:11] <Thunderpants> White-air, spamming
[03:11] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:11] <ramvi> orbin: cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/ubuntu/etc/resolv.conf
[03:11] <Thunderpants> n1 ompaul
[03:12] <Kragnerac> Hello, is there a repository that lets you upgrade from Breezy to Dapper?
[03:12] <ramvi> I made it! Thanks!!
[03:12] <hayden> when doing an rsync does it remove files from the destination folder that arent in the source folder?
[03:13] <orbin> ramvi: *nod* you needed to make the /mnt/ubuntu/etc/ dir first
[03:14] <weirdo> im not sure how to get networkmanager to use my wireless card
[03:14] <weirdo> i got it installed and rebooted... but it doesnt do anything with my card
[03:14] <amee2k> after i inserted a new TV card into my ubuntu 6.06 desktop box, the volume keys on my keyboard don't work anymore. since the OSD always shows muted and volume 0% is suppose it is trying to use the audio device of the TV card which is only intended for capture. Q: how do i change which device is used by the volume keys?
[03:15] <weirdo> im connected thru it with the default network tools though
[03:15] <weirdo> anyone?
[03:16] <Windy> err...can i hide a particular partition and stop it from showing up on desktop?
[03:16] <Dimensions> how do i add a script to auto run on startup i have tried it via rc.local but that works only as super user ...
[03:16] <Windy> i tried disabling it via disk-manager but it shows up again on reboot
[03:16] <Ng> Dimensions: if you want to run something as a regular user at bootup, you can use their crontab with a special time of "@reboot"
[03:17] <Dimensions> how can i configure it ... Ng ... my second task is to auto dial on cron too but i donno abt it ...
[03:17] <orbin> Windy: if it's just a particular partition, you can stop it automounting by removing the relevant line in /etc/fstab
[03:18] <Windy> orbin: err...sorry i'm a linux nublet, explain please?
[03:18] <thotz> windy type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[03:18] <Ng> Dimensions: as that user, run "crontab -e" and put a line in the file of "@reboot /path/to/some/script.sh"
[03:18] <Windy> oh fstab is a file :/
[03:18] <thotz> in the terminal
[03:18] <Windy> thought it was a folder or something
[03:18] <Windy> gotcha, sec
[03:18] <Windy> lol i only figured out gedit like 30mins ago :(
[03:19] <orbin> should use gksudo fro gui apps: gksudo 'gedit /etc/fstab'
[03:19] <orbin> s/fro/for
[03:19] <gionnico> hi
[03:19] <amee2k> Q: how do i change which device is used by the volume multimedia keys?
[03:20] <Thunderpants> why is that orbin, what diff does it make? out of interest
[03:20] <Windy> cool, thanks
[03:20] <orbin> Thunderpants: apparently it can stuff up sudo
[03:20] <Windy> umm...
[03:20] <Windy> i did it via gedit
[03:20] <Thunderpants> i c
[03:20] <Windy> with just sudo
[03:20] <Windy> is that gonna cause a major crash of some sort?
[03:20] <ompaul> Windy, no
[03:21] <Windy> excellent.
 is that gonna cause a major crash of some sort? --> your own stupidity
[03:21] <Windy> i've gone through two of those already
[03:21] <d2812> Thunderpants : Plus its useful if you want it to background your command
[03:21] <Windy> meng: usually is.
[03:21] <ompaul> Windy, however use gksudo in all cases to prevent other issues
[03:21] <Windy> err
[03:21] <Windy> so gksudo > sudo?
[03:21] <Thunderpants> d2812, i thought the ampersand backgrounds the command
[03:22] <ompaul> Windy, no it is appropriate if your using a gui app
[03:22] <exs> If I get a dual core processor, will ubuntu take advantage of it?
[03:22] <d2812> Thunderpants: Yes, but if I do sudo updatedb &
[03:22] <d2812> Thunderpants: I cant type my password
[03:22] <Thunderpants> d2812, i understand, thx
[03:22] <Windy> hmm rightio then
[03:22] <Dimensions> Ng:  is this file an empty one ... crontab ? i have nothing in it but "# m h dom mon dow command"  the the line to be put before that line or what
 If I get a dual core processor, will ubuntu take advantage of it? --> use an SMP kernel
[03:23] <Ng> Dimensions: after
[03:23] <sioux> people do you know about some problem with usb hotplug?
[03:24] <skroll> Anyone happen to know of a mp3 decoder that produces gapless output (when using the appropriate metadata, of course), or at least CD burning software that supports this feature?
 people do you know about some problem with usb hotplug? --> i can't use USB winmodems
[03:24] <orbin> exs: default kernel has smp support iirc
[03:25] <sioux> meng me unstable usb wireless and from dmesg seems a usb pci problem
[03:25] <d2812> amee2k: any other tips for the console?
[03:25] <amee2k> hehe
[03:25] <orbin> skroll: wouldn't the gaps be more of a player issue?
[03:25] <sioux> small packetc are passed ok
 meng me unstable usb wireless and from dmesg seems a usb pci problem --> wakaranai (don't know) coz i don't use 802.11
[03:26] <skroll> orbin: unfortunately, no.  when decoded by most software, there is actual silence in the tracks
[03:26] <sioux> bigger packets are stopped
[03:26] <Thunderpants> im thinking about buying a new laptop with duo core cpu and sata150 hdd, will ubuntu be ok with them?
 the "optimized" kernels are a little better
[03:26] <orbin> skroll: ah, ok...well what rippers have you tried?
[03:26] <amee2k> d2812: well, you can use fg to get a backgrounded app back and bg to make it continue execution on background
[03:27] <skroll> orbin: rippers?  I've used LAME to decode, as well as Gstreamer output.
[03:27] <orbin> meng: the *-smp ones? ah ok
[03:27] <amee2k> d2812: or googlt for a terminal howto. i suppose there are quite a few
[03:27] <neutrinomass> Thunderpants: Yes. I have a SATA disk and a core duo and it works fine
[03:27] <Thunderpants> brilliant! thx neutrinomass
[03:28] <neutrinomass> Thunderpants: Just one word of advice: If you go with 6.06 (and not 6.06.1) make sure you update the kernel (there were some fixes - it was very disappointing without those updates )
[03:28] <neutrinomass> Thunderpants: It was something related to the CPU - it has been fixed though :)
[03:28] <Thunderpants> gotcha neutrinomass thx for the heads-up
[03:28] <skroll> orbin: here is my predicament: latest stable version of LAME (one in ubuntu repos) is 3.96.1, which doesn't cut off the trailing padded frames, while latest CVS version does accomodate for the ending frams.
[03:28] <d2812> amee2k : I've found screen useful for running things in the background, espically when I have to ssh in, but i've never picked up the console shortcuts. Screen is a pretty usefull program :)
[03:28] <skroll> orbin: however, I have used 2 programs in Windows that fix this (foobar2000 and Burrrn) which fix this automatically.
[03:29] <uberspaced> anybody know what PCI device to specify for a graphics card located on a docking station?
[03:29] <uberspaced> on a laptop?
[03:29] <amee2k> d2812: yeah. irssi+screen+ssh rocks :)
[03:29] <skroll> uberspaced: it's different for different devices/manufacturers
[03:29] <uberspaced> i know it's vague; but is there anything I should look for?  windows shows the device as an nvidia graphics card
[03:29] <uberspaced> but an lspci shows only one; and it also shows an intel graphics bridge
[03:30] <uberspaced> but it's like 50/50 whether or not it could point to the correct device
[03:30] <d2812> amee2k : add rtorrent to that list as well. The backspace problem is annoying as the two fixes I found didnt work for me, and I dont have any time to experiment at the moment.
[03:30] <skroll> uberspaced: what laptop is it/
[03:30] <neutrinomass> uberspaced: I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for ... could you pasteBIN the output of 'lspci -vv' ?
[03:30] <exs> orbin,  What's "iirc" mean?
[03:30] <uberspaced> it's a dell latitude d820
[03:30] <skroll> uberspaced: what kind of graphics card is it?
[03:31] <amee2k> uberspaced: man laptops only connect the output from the internal video card to the docing connector for convenience and do not feature a second adapter for the docking bay video output
[03:31] <neutrinomass> exs: If I Remember Correctly
[03:31] <ompaul> !timetable > skroll
[03:31] <uberspaced> skroll, windows shows it as nvidia; there are 2 nvidia cards total
[03:31] <uberspaced> but only one shows up in lspci
[03:31] <uberspaced> i'll pasted -vv
[03:31] <uberspaced> * i'll paste -vv
[03:31] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > uberspaced
[03:32] <neutrinomass> uberspaced: Make sure you use pastebin though :-)
[03:32] <skroll> wait, why did I get the timetable thing?
[03:32] <ompaul> skroll, the reason it is not going to be in ubuntu at this stage has been sent to you in a message by the bot
[03:32] <amee2k> hey, folks, how can i change which audio device is controlled by the volume multimedia keys?
[03:32] <Kennyout> at what point is one suppose to try "fdisk -l" with the cd?
[03:32] <lincr> is there a service that automagically seeks network connectivity?
[03:32] <ompaul> skroll, you can compile it yourself if you have an issue with that do /msg ubotu compile
[03:32] <orbin> skroll: you're going out of my knowledge tbh...i mostly use oggenc and i don't even know if that's gapless.
[03:32] <exs> neutrinomass,  "Hyperthreading is still elusive. Ubuntu installed the 2.6.8 kernel but not an SMP flavor. I was too lazy to go through the hassle of building an SMP kernel and so it runs UP."
[03:33] <orbin> exs: if i remember correctly
[03:33] <skroll> ompaul: oh I udnerstand that it's not going to be in ubuntu, in fact, it shouldn't because it's not a stable release yet.  I'm just looking for alternatives.
[03:33] <lincr> my machine keeps trying to connect wirelessly
[03:33] <uberspaced> skroll, it's an nvidia card
[03:33] <skroll> orbin: ogg is gapless for sure.
[03:33] <uberspaced> crap
[03:33] <uberspaced> never mind
[03:33] <lincr> disassociates my other machine
[03:33] <ompaul> skroll, ahh okay
[03:33] <uberspaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21285
[03:34] <skroll> orbin: when mp3s are encoded, mp3 decoders insert padded frames that contain silence (it has something to do wtih the codec), but the LAME encoder inserts some data that tells exactly how many frames are inserted, so decoders can cut those off later to make a totally gapless track.
[03:36] <neutrinomass> uberspaced: (redundant comment) Yes, it is an nvidia card
[03:37] <uberspaced> well, i just installed the nvidia-glx or something; i dont know if i have to reboot before that stuff takes affect
[03:37] <shai_> Does the ubuntu live CD include apt?
[03:38] <neutrinomass> talisker[w] : Yes, you can install programs on it ...
[03:40] <zithowa> what key do i press to indicate end of file?
[03:40] <talisker[w] > How about the knoppix CD?
[03:40] <zithowa> ctrl-d doesn't seem to do anything
[03:40] <neutrinomass> talisker[w] : No idea - this is an Ubuntu support channel :-)
[03:40] <neutrinomass> zithowa: What are you trying to do? ctrl+d is EOF in the terminal ....
[03:41] <zithowa> whoops, i didn't have the window in focus
[03:41] <zithowa> neutrinomass: thanks
[03:42] <uberspaced> alrighty, i think i'mma try some things.  may be back.
[03:43] <ed_> Hey Guys, new to Linux and Ubuntu Dapper here, a quicky on the Dreaded Wireless networking: The default bcm43xx drivers aren't working for my card and last time I tried to blacklist these and use the (recognised) driver in ndiswrapper my system didn't boot past the configuring network options, clean install now :S, What's the proper/better way to go about doing this?
[03:44] <orbin> talisker[w] : well isn't knoppix debian based too ... so yeah, probably
[03:44] <neutrinomass> !bcm
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <neutrinomass> !wireless
[03:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:44] <ed_> Appreciated, cheers guys
[03:44] <neutrinomass> ed_: Take a look at that link :) Be back if you have problems
[03:45] <ed_> thx
[03:45] <orbin> ed_: i assume you've already seen this then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:48] <ed_> Yeah, I tired to blacklist the bcm43xx driver from startup and activate the ndiswrappered driver, and the OS just wouldn't boot, maybe I got the order wrong, also perhaps " ' " was wrong, I gather there is a different " ' " to the one some people think? but i'm not sure  of a special command for a correct one
[03:49] <orbin> ed_: apostrophe
[03:49] <ed_> uhhuh
[03:49] <sioux> people I try to debug my zyxel g-220 using the driver zd1211 provided by default on ubuntu
[03:49] <orbin> ed_: that command basically just adds the line "blacklist bcm43xx to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist text file
[03:49] <sioux> the problem seems reside in communication at usb level
[03:50] <haasteem> hello, it looks like i have a kernel problem... i tried to install ubuntu dapper (upgrade from breezy) and i have an asus a7v 8x-x motherboard with a via kt400 chipset... i was told this causes problems and that there is a patch for it... it this correct?
[03:50] <sioux> in particular in frames length info
[03:50] <ed_> Something I read also told me to then write "rmmod bcm43xx" followed by "rmmod ndiswrapper", though being new, I haven't a clue what this does
[03:51] <lupine_> stops the driver from running, essentially
[03:51] <ed_> ic
[03:51] <humano> Hola
[03:51] <lupine_> then you'd 'modprobe' (start) the driver that you wanted
[03:52] <sioux> here is my experiment: I am running a small telnet app with my ap (just 1K o 2K bytes) and it is working till 1hour
[03:52] <ed_> And if I missed that modprobe line out, would that explain why my system hung at boot?
[03:52] <sioux> bus soon i run mozilla and I surf a little the usb stop to work
[03:52] <erUSUL> haasteem: what is exactly the problem? a kt400 should be totally supported...
[03:52] <humano> mi primera vez en Ubuntu, mi primera vez en Linux, mi primera vez en XCHAT ... que canal para escojo para nuevos usuarios ?
[03:52] <erUSUL> !commands > ed_
[03:53] <haasteem> erUSUL: i don<t know... i was told it is a known issue and that there is a patch for it...
[03:53] <erUSUL> ed_: rm erases files (rm == remove)
[03:53] <stack_> I'm following the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryHowto to set up my box to authenticate off of our central server,  'getent passwd' shows my network users.  'getent group' doesn't show my network groups... anyone have experience with this?
[03:53] <haasteem> erUSUL: basically, my sound stopped working...
[03:53] <lupine_> ed: no - not loading this module wouldn't cause system instability
[03:54] <lupine_> take a look at the solution given here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239982
[03:54] <erUSUL> haasteem: well i do not know of any patch circulating around..
[03:54] <rkd> what program should i use to display v4l input from my webcam?
[03:54] <lupine_> they were all using ndiswrapper as well, so it *does* work
[03:55] <haasteem> erUSUL: i looked on launchpad and lkml and could not find it... it is a bit strange...
[03:55] <lupine_> just make sure that you've got the latest version, seems to be the crux of the matter
[03:55] <haasteem> erUSUL: anyways, as things stand now i'm going back to breezy...
[03:55] <erUSUL> haasteem: kt400 is not a very new chipset it should be totally supported in the 2.6.15 kernel that comes with ubuntu...
[03:56] <erUSUL> haasteem: have you reported your problem in lounchpad?
[03:57] <haasteem> erUSUL: yup, bug number 56878 if you want to check it...
[03:58] <erUSUL> haasteem: btw the integrated sound is the southbridge (vt8xxx in via mb)
[03:58] <ed_> ok cheers all, I'll go bury myself under 1 tonne of Webpage help now, hey, craching my ubuntu install roughly reflects how I started with windows 15 odd years ago, so it's not that discouraging!  I suspect a few months of playing with terminal commands which may wipe the drive could be a good way to learn again :-D
[03:59] <haasteem> erUSUL: ahh... ok, the person i talked to asked me for the northbridge btw
[04:00] <buntu418> hw to fully use creative prodikeys midi keyboard.. plss help
[04:01] <surgy> hello
[04:01] <surgy> can someone help me?
[04:01] <daveb> so I have hibernate working, suspend to ram seems to work, but the screen doesn't turn back on. I want to try vbetools, but don't know where to put the commands to save/restore the video state. I am using powersaved (using Dapper, upgraded last week)
[04:01] <erUSUL> haasteem: have you tried the recomendations of chen in launchpad?
[04:01] <surgy> anyone mind letting a noob anoy them for a few minutes?
[04:02] <erUSUL> !anyone
[04:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:02] <gan|y|med> hello
[04:02] <gan|y|med> where is the ifstate file stored in ubuntu?
[04:02] <surgy> ok ill just ask my question :)
[04:03] <lupine_> slocate ifstate suggests /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/contrib/ifstate
[04:03] <surgy> when i try to access my hardrive containing my ntfs partition it says it cannot mount the device becuase it is not removable
[04:03] <Kennyout> Does anyone/anybody know at what point to type in "fdisk -l" when attemtpting to install Ubuntu to see if partitions are showing up?
[04:03] <erUSUL> gan|y|med: sudo 'find / -name '*ifstate' -print'
[04:04] <haasteem> erUSUL: yes, with no positive result
[04:04] <gan|y|med> thx, i am checking
[04:04] <lupine_> kennyout: right after or before the partitioner has done it's job would be the best bet.  :D -- seriously, it should find them. make sure you specify the right drive (e.g. /dev/hda); and that there is actually a partition table on it
[04:08] <orbin> surgy: how are you accessing the partition?
[04:08] <lupine_> if it's not finding the drive at all, then you're probably using some esoteric hard drive/controller that I know nothing about
[04:09] <surgy> orbin: pmed you
[04:09] <n3ko> pebkac: i like this tooltip apearing
[04:09] <orbin> surgy: you're not id'ed ... i didn't get it
[04:09] <Kennyout> okay lupine_ good info to know, well its Sata and Nforce 4....
[04:09] <orbin> surgy: best to keep it in the channel anyway jic i can't help you
[04:09] <bobovski> dalfz: that's a little complex. I think the best way is to install mplayer and get the plugin for that. I'd love to hear if anyone has a better suggestion
[04:10] <pebkac> i don't like it on the menus
[04:10] <pebkac> and i can't find where to turn it off..
[04:10] <n3ko> pebkac: not like on the menus too
[04:10] <surgy> well im registered now
[04:10] <bobovski> dalfz: problem is, mplayer's kind of tricky to install...unless someone knows an apt source for it
[04:10] <n3ko> you can only turn off globaly
[04:10] <Ng> mplayer is available in the regular repositories
[04:11] <pebkac> where?
[04:11] <Ng> it's in multiverse
[04:11] <Ng> !info mplayer
[04:11] <Kennyout> lupine_ is it sugested to while going for "Live" mode that one use a VGA cable over a DVI cable for ATI cards?
[04:11] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[04:11] <surgy> well im accesing the partition on the gnome desktop by going to places/computer/hd1
[04:11] <dalfz> bobovski, i think i saw a package called mplayer, or do you mean the plugin ofit?
[04:11] <Ng> the firefox mplayer plugin is in the repositories too, it's mozilla-mplayer
[04:11] <Ng> if that's what you mean
[04:11] <lupine_> bobovski: "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free" perhaps?
[04:12] <orbin> surgy: how did you mount it in the first place?  or was it already mounted for you?
[04:12] <lupine_> kennyout: not a clue. I'm a nvdidia person ;)
[04:12] <lupine_> if unsure, go for the lowest-tech option
[04:12] <surgy> orbin: allready mounted with read access
[04:12] <bobovski> dalfz: guess it's all in the repos now, sweet
[04:12] <bobovski> thanks lupine, Ng
[04:12] <sioux> aioaioaioaio  ubuntu people I think ubuntu has kernel problems...  it support USB2.0?
[04:12] <n3ko> remove the compiz wobbly paramter
[04:13] <Ng> sioux: it supports USB2.0, yes
[04:13] <surgy> orbin: if it makes a dif im running ubuntu 64
[04:13] <orbin> surgy: press alt+f2, then run: gksudo 'gedit /etc/fstab'
[04:13] <lupine_> sioux: what driver are you using?
[04:13] <orbin> surgy: shouldn't matter
[04:14] <n3ko> or you may try with gconf-editor
[04:14] <n3ko> somewhere in apps -> compiz
[04:14] <hector__> hola
[04:14] <Bogaurd> has anybody here compiled 2.6.15-26-server with IMQ support?
[04:14] <Kennyout> okay thankyou lupine_ you have been very, very helpful
[04:14] <hector__> alguien me pudiera ayudar a instalar amsn
[04:14] <lupine_> np
[04:14] <sioux> ng once loaded as defalut the zd1211 driver the usb wireless adapter seems went ok since when linux crashed. now is all freze. mouse keyboard all freezed. I followed the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd1211?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29
[04:14] <surgy> orbin: couldnt run that
[04:15] <orbin> !es
[04:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:15] <surgy> orbin: can we tlak in pm
[04:15] <bobovski> well, then. Anyone know of an mplayer plugin that works for opera?
[04:15] <Kennyout> now i must go....the lawn is calling me....and they must be reaped....then i will go to attempt to install
[04:15] <surgy> orbin: xchat is weird and hurting my eyes with its tiny fonts
[04:15] <licio> !br
[04:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:15] <Ng> sioux: I'd be more tempted to suggest it's the zd1211 driver than the USB2 support in the kernel
[04:15] <hector__> alguien me podria ayudar a instalar amsn
[04:15] <haasteem> erUSUL: do you follow kernel development?
[04:16] <orbin> licio: whoops :)
[04:16] <ailean> !es
[04:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:16] <licio> orbin, :)
[04:16] <ailean> hector__, pero si puede hablar ingls . . .
[04:16] <hector__> no
[04:16] <lupine_> so you installed the latest version of the zd1211 driver?
[04:17] <hector__> no se ingles
[04:17] <ailean> ok pues, va a #ubuntu-es
[04:17] <anabain> anyone with ASUS M2NPV-VM geforce6150/430?
[04:17] <hector__> como le hago
[04:17] <sioux> ng the zd1211 driver require the ehci-hcd  module but it is not loaded by ubuntu
[04:17] <hector__> para ir a es
[04:17] <lupine_> or are you using the one that came with the kernel?
[04:17] <ailean> "/join #ubuntu-es"
[04:17] <licio> hector__, /j #ubuntu-es
[04:17] <orbin> so which is it?  spanish or portugese? :-/
[04:17] <ailean> o /j :)
[04:17] <ailean> orbin, spanish
[04:17] <licio> orbin, spanish
[04:17] <hector__> lo copio
[04:17] <hector__> o en donde lo tecleo eso
[04:18] <orbin> licio: you confused me :P
[04:18] <licio> orbin, sorry.. hehehe
[04:18] <ailean> en el espacio al bajo
[04:18] <Ng> sioux: does it not crash if you load that first?
[04:18] <hector__>  "/join #ubuntu-es"
[04:18] <erUSUL> haasteem: yes
[04:18] <ailean> sin los "s
[04:18] <hector__>  /join #ubuntu-es
[04:18] <sioux> ng now i try to load that module
[04:18] <ailean> e sin el espacio
[04:18] <ailean> y
[04:19] <Ng> !es
[04:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:19] <haasteem> erUSUL: and you haven't heard of such a patch then?
[04:19] <ailean> Ng, we KNOW!
[04:19] <erUSUL> haasteem: but as i said i do not remember any problems related to the comon via southbridges...
[04:19] <ailean> i'm trying to get him there
[04:19] <orbin> hehe
[04:19] <Ng> ailean: I saw lots of lines of people utterly failing to communicate, so I thought I'd try something with a slightly higher chance of success :)
[04:19] <haasteem> erUSUL: right, but chen specifically asked me what northbridge i have...
[04:19] <ailean> we did that several times already :)
[04:19] <Ng> then call the ops *shrug*
[04:19] <ailean> i'd say he's away now
[04:19] <erUSUL> haasteem: no sorry. maybe i can not remember. you can use google... use the name of the southbridge or of the mb
[04:20] <haasteem> erUSUL: i tried... but couldn't find it... maybe it's just me... :s
[04:21] <erUSUL> haasteem: if you are brave you can try to build your own vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[04:21] <erUSUL> !kernel
[04:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:21] <philth> I ran fsck and it put damn near everything in to lost+found. Any idea why it did this and even perhaps how to revert back?
[04:21] <haasteem> erUSUL: whouahhh... ;-)
[04:21] <haasteem> erUSUL: i'm afraid i don't really have time for that...
[04:22] <Ng> philth: if it can recover the data of a file, but not its original name/path it puts it there. there is no automated way to turn all those files back into a correctly organised filesystem (that I know of)
[04:22] <lupine_> haasteem: takes about half an hour
[04:22] <billybennett> is there any way to boost volume when your using alsa-oss ?
[04:22] <lupine_> I'm running on vanilla <IP_ADDRESS>, and it's much faster
[04:23] <philth> Ng, The computer was booting fine before this, I ran fsck out of curiosity in Single User mode. Any idea why it put most everything (Home Dir's) in there?
[04:23] <hector__> en espaol estan re gueyes
[04:23] <hector__> nadie habla
[04:23] <orbin> billybennett: crank pcm in volume control?
[04:23] <erUSUL> haasteem: it is not that difficult
[04:23] <haasteem> lupine_: is that so?
[04:23] <hector__> yo creo que a nadie le interesa el ubuntu en espaos
[04:24] <erUSUL> !es
[04:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:24] <jpjacobs> !es > hector__
[04:24] <lupine_> YMMV, of course :)
[04:24] <haasteem> erUSUL: ok
[04:24] <erUSUL> !kernel > haasteem
[04:24] <hector__> mande
[04:24] <Ng> I think hector is trying to say that ubuntu-es is empty ;)
[04:24] <Ng> but I don't speak spanish
[04:24] <haasteem> erUSUL: i saw it...
[04:24] <Ng> philth: hmm, that is rather strange
[04:24] <billybennett> orbin, it is I'm on a laptop and the volume is all the way up
[04:24] <erUSUL> Ng: i'm there
[04:24] <lupine_> pity you can't gateway it (ubuntu-es) to intertran
[04:24] <Ng> erUSUL: ah :)
[04:25] <Ng> erUSUL: I guessed that "nadie habla" meant "nobody there" or so ;)
[04:25] <orbin> billybennett: master and pcm?
[04:25] <ailean> Ng, he says that he thinks no one is interested in ubuntu in spanish
[04:25] <billybennett> orbin, yep everything :(
[04:25] <mompe> nobody speak Ng :)
[04:25] <ailean> hector, no es verdad, hay #ubuntu-es
[04:25] <erUSUL> Ng: well i have not seen hector ask anything there is all i can say... but is true that is a very quiet channel
[04:26] <ailean> hector__, habla francs o otro idioma?
[04:26] <ailean> there are 32 people in #ubuntu-es
[04:27] <ailean> and people are talking there - y la gente hablando en #ubuntu-es
[04:30] <wheelswitch> -P, --parallel[=N]        download N files in parallel  <---- How would i use this switch to download 3 files in parallel?
[04:31] <longwave> wheelswitch: either "-P 3" or "--parallel=3" as part of the command line
[04:31] <wheelswitch> -P 3 doesnt work
[04:31] <sioux> ng no crash as well
[04:31] <wheelswitch> for some reason
[04:31] <wheelswitch> trying --parral...
[04:32] <hector__> ea alguien tiene un tutorial que me mande
[04:33] <drayen_> How do i remove a package (powernowd) without removeing the whole kubuntu-desktop package as well?
[04:34] <decent> i am trying to compile gaim but i get an error that says libXrender.la is missing. i read on the ubuntu forums that this file was purposely left out of the distribution. does anyone know how i can get it?
[04:34] <kyubi_kitsune> anyone knows of a good backup tool for ubuntu?
[04:34] <Dr4g> I'm trying to find a link to download LAMP for ubuntu 6.06, i can't see anything on www.onlamp.com, can someone point me in the right direction please..... ?
[04:34] <Dr4g> -
[04:35] <Ng> sioux: sounds like you should file a bug then :)
[04:35] <longwave> !lamp
[04:35] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:35] <Ng> !bugs > sioux
[04:35] <kyubi_kitsune> anyone knows of a good backup tool for ubuntu?
[04:35] <wheelswitch> crontab and bash scripts
[04:35] <wheelswitch> kyubi_kitsune:  what do you want to backup?
[04:36] <wheelswitch> !backup
[04:36] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:36] <kyubi_kitsune> thanks
[04:36] <califfo> hi all, I'm looking for a ftp-server which uses encryption for transfers between my small server and my friends' pcs? can u help me?
[04:37] <BlueEagle> califfo: can't any ftp server run on an ssl connection?
[04:37] <Dr4g> califfo: look for server using SFTP, its FTP working on SSH connections
[04:37] <kevor> Hello, i'm having a "error opening security policy file" error, does anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:37] <kevor> the error is located in my xorg.log file
[04:37] <chungaroo> I'm trying to compile install a program from a tar.bz2 source file and when i try to do the make command, i get: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:37] <longwave> vsftpd and proftpd amongst others support SSL transfers i believe
[04:38] <califfo> longwave I think they support TLS only
[04:38] <BlueEagle> chungaroo: please read the accompanying INSTALL file.
[04:38] <neutrinomass> chungaroo: You didn't run "./configure" . Before compiling though check that it doesn't exist in the repositories ...
[04:38] <chungaroo> i already ran ./configure
[04:38] <neutrinomass> chungaroo: Generally speaking, compile as a very last resort ...
[04:39] <neutrinomass> chungaroo: Then read INSTALL or README (make sure you have "build-essential" installed as well )
[04:39] <BlueEagle> and that you're in the directory where you unpacked the files to
[04:39] <orbin> chungaroo: what program?
[04:39] <chungaroo> it's a gaim guifications plugin
[04:39] <orbin> kevor: does that stop X from loading?
[04:40] <chungaroo> nevermind..it's in the repo
[04:41] <kevor> orbin: after filling in name and password, it hangs for like 5-10 minutes
[04:41] <kevor> then it eventually loads
[04:42] <orbin> kevor: has this always happened?
[04:43] <orbin> chungaroo: why i asked :)
[04:43] <drayen_> anyone know the AMD equiv of "modprobe speedstep-centrino", trying to follow http://martin.ankerl.org/2006/08/16/how-to-make-firefox-40-percent-faster/
[04:45] <califfo> uhm, but with sftp would be a user have access to only a folder?
[04:45] <bobjones_> Hi all, can some one please help me setting up a ubuntu netboot server using dnsmasq as the dhcp server?
[04:45] <kaot> ...tornado of souls is a megadeth song, isn't it?
[04:45] <kaot> heh it is
[04:46] <BlueEagle> califfo: That would probably depend  on how you set it up
[04:46] <gary[ubuntu] > how do I get software updates to stop bugging me about updating my patched wine?
[04:46] <califfo> u right, so is it possible?
[04:46] <BlueEagle> califfo: If nothing else works just stick it in a chroot jail
[04:46] <kevor> orbin: it happens everytime, i just installed Ubuntu
[04:46] <virogenesis> hi all
[04:47] <erkintek> hi, I'm trying to play music on kubuntu
[04:48] <orbin> kevor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org chuck the whole log file onto the pastebin
[04:48] <Jenga> hey
[04:49] <orbin> erkintek: and ... :)
[04:50] <kevor> orbin: i may have found a solution
[04:50] <erkintek> orbin: and cant play, I thought it is a distribution issue
[04:50] <Thunderpants> !codecs
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:51] <gottreu> What's the best way to install Dapper with most development libraries on a computer with dial-up?  At work I have a very fast connect, so could I just burn all the packages I need to extra CD's and point apt (or whatever) to the CD's?
[04:51] <Thunderpants> erkintek, u mean u cant play mp3's?
[04:51] <kevor> orbin: i've managed to get rid of the error, but it still hangs after loggin in...
[04:52] <erkintek> yep, on fedora I had installed XMMS from the source
[04:52] <Thunderpants> erkintek, google easy ubuntu
[04:52] <orbin> erkintek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:52] <Thunderpants> erkintek, easy ubuntu will load all the files u need
[04:53] <Thunderpants> erkintek, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:53] <erkintek> I am converting my mp3 to ogg,
[04:53] <erkintek> :) the easiest way I found
[04:53] <srn> wtf.. automatix have overwritten my apt.sources!?
[04:53] <Thunderpants> easy ubuntu will load the files for that erkintek
[04:53] <orbin> erkintek: not ideal though...i think you lose quality
[04:54] <msoul> Hello, Is it possible to join the Ubuntu community as a translater? I do speak three languages :-)
[04:54] <Thunderpants> sox is the package u need to convert mp3s to ogg
[04:54] <msoul> Finnish/Arabic(Native) and English of course
[04:55] <SGL> Hello
[04:55] <erkintek> I found mp32ogg, I cant recognize quality loss
[04:55] <Louisa> Hi folks, is there anyone here on the PPC who has the RealPlayer plugin working in Firefox?
[04:55] <JohnUK89> Help anyone? I seem to have lost some GLX extensions when I upgraded my kernel to the latest stable, any ideas how to get them back?
[04:55] <SGL> How do I make ubuntu launch a script automatically
[04:55] <Louisa> Or is our only option helix
[04:55] <Dimensions> hi fones do you guys know abt, which are supported in ubuntu for using as GPRS MODEM
[04:56] <Ng> Dimensions: anything you can get a serial port out of should be usable as a gprs modem, so anything with a physical serial cable or bluetooth, afaik
[04:56] <psiklone> hi, does anyone know how to be able to set arbitrary refresh rates, it is only letting me use 85hz, i have tried editting my xorg.conf but it still doesnt do anythign
[04:57] <SGL> How do I make ubuntu launch a script automatically at startup??
[04:57] <TheGateKeeper> SGL there are various ways, cron, put it in rc.local, I think there is also an autostart in kde
[04:57] <Ng> SGL: a system (ie root) script, or as your user? if the latter, does it need to be run at startup or when you log in?
[04:58] <SGL> TheGateKeeper: I use Xubuntu (so no KDE)
[04:58] <Louisa> Ng: out of interested where do you stick it to run it as root?
[04:58] <Ng> Louisa: /etc/rc.local
[04:58] <Louisa> thanks
[04:58] <TheGateKeeper> SGL: it's probable got an equivalent
[04:58] <Dimensions> Ng:  ... but not all mobile fones are supported in linux ... ubuntu ...
[04:58] <SGL> Ng: I don't care. it's about apache, so it will always after I have logged in. It needs root-user privilige tho
[04:58] <orbin> msoul: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RosettaReleaseAnnouncement maybe
[04:59] <Ng> SGL: apache is started as a system service, so it will always be running by the time /etc/rc.local is called, so that would be a sensible place to put it most likely, but it depends on exactly what it is
[04:59] <msoul> orbin: Thanks
[05:00] <SGL> Ng: So I can just add a line in rc.local and everything will work?
[05:00] <SGL> It's just to start apache
[05:00] <xavice> Hey, I was just wondering, how can I download a Flash plugin for Firefox? flashplugin-nonfree doesn't seem to work, so I purged it, and the adobe is going at unbelievably slow speeds (0.3 kb/s, etc)
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: if you installed apache from the ubuntu repositories it will already be started at boot
[05:01] <SGL> I didn't ;)
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: but yes, that would do
[05:01] <SGL> I did it manually
[05:01] <SGL> Ok thanks
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: shame
[05:01] <SGL> I'll try
[05:01] <SGL> Ng: No... no shame... I needed it fine-tuned
[05:01] <fuci_> Can someone offer me advice on how to put up my own shell, to where I can connect from other places; OR something that I can control my irssi (that is running on my home computer) from some other computer? Thanks.
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: it's always worth using the repositories if you can, if only because they do all the hard work for you and keep it up to date for you :)
[05:01] <Ng> SGL: rebuilding the packages is also a possibility, so you get the best of both worlds
[05:01] <xavice> Hey, I was just wondering, how can I download a Flash plugin for Firefox? flashplugin-nonfree doesn't seem to work, so I purged it, and the adobe is going at unbelievably slow speeds (0.3 kb/s, etc)
[05:01] <harisund> fuci_: you could use a combination of screen and irssi through SSH
[05:01] <Frostbite> Can somebody help me with dependancy errors in apt-get install redhat-cluster-suite? http://rafb.net/paste/results/OGZPMM52.html
[05:01] <FurryNemesis> Ng, unless the repos have out of date programs
[05:02] <SGL> Ng: Total linux noob here ;) So no way i'm gonna try that
[05:02] <Ng> SGL: if you're a total noob, why are you fine tuning a web server? ;)
[05:02] <fuci_> harisund: any quide on how to do that? I'm pretty new to Linux :)
[05:02] <harisund> fuci_: I am guessing you are familiar with the command line?
[05:02] <Ng> FurryNemesis: that's rarely as much of a problem as people think, I would say
[05:02] <fuci_> harisund: yep
[05:02] <Louisa> Hi folks, is there anyone here on the PPC who has the RealPlayer plugin working in Firefox?
[05:03] <harisund> fuci_: so let's begin with the basics. Do you know what SSH is, and how to use a client to login to a machine running a SSH server?
[05:03] <Louisa> I have the stand alone binary working, but not the plugins
[05:03] <fuci_> harisund: I do.
[05:03] <califfo> !webdav
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webdav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <fuci_> I've had shell- account but it has expired.
[05:03] <harisund> fuci_: so let's start by installing a SSH server on your main desktop. Execute on the command line 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'
[05:03] <xavice> Louisa: I think you can use MPlayer, if not first thing I'd do is check their website.
[05:03] <fuci_> Ok
[05:04] <TheGateKeeper> SGL: Total linux noob needs to use apt-get /synaptic or adept ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:04] <xavice> !flashplugin
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <SGL> Ng: Because i need a fine-tuned server. Has nothing to do with linux...
[05:04] <Louisa> xavice: i'll give it a go...ta
[05:04] <SGL> TheGateKeeper: I know... But as I said I needed it finetuned. I made a 5 line configure command :P
[05:04] <fuci_> harisund: Done.
[05:05] <harisund> fuci_: ok. Now what kind of a connection do you have on your main desktop?
[05:05] <harisund> fuci_: I mean, internet connection.
[05:05] <fuci_> harisund: 8/1 mb DSL
[05:05] <fuci_> 8down 1up
[05:06] <harisund> fuci_: is it like an always on thing? What kind of an IP do you get? If it is public you can access this machine from anywhere. I am guessing you know what kind of a IP it is and whether or not your ISP allows access to it?
[05:06] <fuci_> harisund: My connection is allways on, IP is public.
[05:06] <Dimensions> Ng:  can u name any fones u really know will work as gprs modem in Linux ubuntu ?
[05:07] <Ng> Dimensions: my SonyEricsson k750i and t610 before that both did it fine
[05:07] <Ng> Dimensions: anything that has bluetooth and presents the standard BT dialup networking service (ie a serial port modem) will work afaik
[05:07] <Dimensions> where did u try it Ng: ? i mean which country
[05:07] <harisund> fuci_: ok good. So now that you have a SSh server running on your computer (whose IP let's say is <IP_ADDRESS>) all you need to do to access this desktop of yours from any other computer is to ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> using a SSH client (putty on Windows, most Linuxes have SSH clients by default)
[05:07] <Ng> Dimensions: UK
[05:08] <Ng> Dimensions: although I've used the GPRS bits from Europe too
[05:08] <Dimensions> kool ... i want it for same place ...
[05:08] <fuci_> harisund: Our school computers are running Win2000
[05:08] <fuci_> So putty it is.
[05:08] <Dimensions> i needed a cheap mobile fones list which actually can work as gprs modem as we are trying dial on demand with remote pcs
[05:08] <xxpor> hey guys, i cant find a link to download Edgy Eft