[20:01] <Typh> This is obscure, but maybe someone can take a guess. When I set my appear settings to custom, launching gnome-do causes a white flash vertical and horizontal from do. I can't figure out what setting is causing this.
[20:02] <jmyers> LewisDre4m: yeah, I'm struggling HARD CORE with a $200 video card I just bought 6 months ago.
[20:02] <paschu> I want to make some music, which program is the best?
[20:02] <Froststalker> i installed apache2 and no-ip but can't reach my site
[20:02] <unop> gafir, no. install mysql now
[20:02] <airtonix> !motd
[20:02] <jmyers> I get a giggle out of people who say they are gonna QUIT LINUX AND GO HOME TO WINDOWS if we don't help them immediately.
[20:03] <jmyers> Do we really want those type of people in the linux community anyway?
[20:03] <guntbert> soopos: to have access to your graphical display you must open a terminal within the gui (go to applications/accessories/terminal)
[20:03] <gafir> unop: ok thanks
[20:03] <gafir> :)
[20:03] <jac0> boss_mc: thannnx its workin
[20:03] <unop> jmyers, sure, here's an opportunity to make money out of credulity :)
[20:04] <airtonix> lolmac, jsut a note about the nvidia drivers (in .run format) I take it you are aware you must execute this while X is not running ?
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> jmyers:  windows has people trained for instant gratification...
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> jmyersAway:  i  normally tell them to 'demand a refund'
[20:06] <gafir> unop: I did sudo aptitude install mysql-{server,client} -- it didn't ask me any question
[20:06] <jeffreyf> Hello...I fubar'd by MySQL root password and permissions to other db's.  How do I fix this?  There is nothing in the DB so I can remove it all and start over.
[20:06] <guntbert> billy_: without reading the details I'd say if you exclude /media then thats just it - you won't get any messages
[20:06] <soopos> guntbert: I have the terminal open
[20:06] <jmyersAway> Dr_Willis: I know it, lol, it also has them trained to buy insanely expensive and bleeding edge software to run it. :P
[20:06] <unop> gafir, pm me
[20:06] <soopos> guntbert: and then to open the pdf...let's see
[20:06] <nedzad> Hi, yall
[20:06] <billy_> guntbert, exactly what I did. i also tried to put the backed up file into /media/disk but i dont see why that should be a problem
[20:06] <jmyersAway> Dr_Willis: bleeding edge HARDWARE rather.
[20:07] <soopos> guntbert: Thank you!
[20:07] <soopos> guntbert: It works :)
[20:07] <guntbert> soopos: glad to help :-)
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> jmyersAway:  been looking at getting a new machine.. but really I dont even need a faster pc :) for what i do.. heh.
[20:07] <jac0> where can i find "samr" audio codec for playin 3gp files
[20:07] <billy_> guntbert, figured the problem, i think, thanks
[20:07]  * duffydack is getting his new dell studio 17 i7 tues :)
[20:08] <Meshezabeel> heya, sometimes I get a spike in cpu usage on my vps server so that I have to force shut it down. Are there log files anywhere that will tell me what was using all the cpu?
[20:08] <duffydack> jac0, libopencoreamr somethin or other ?
[20:08] <jeffreyf> Hello...I fubar'd by MySQL root password and permissions to other db's.  How do I fix this?  There is nothing in the DB so I can remove it all and start over.
[20:08] <guntbert> billy_: did I actually help :-/ ? I don't think so - congrats then
[20:08] <zelrikriando> gahhh I am lost
[20:09] <billy_> guntbert, no, but you tried :) that surely counts for something
[20:09] <zelrikriando> how to change the way a partition mounts
[20:09] <blakkheim> zelrikriando: /etc/fstab
[20:09] <guntbert> billy_: :)
[20:09] <jac0> duffydack: when i try playin 3gp files therez no sound.,
[20:09] <duffydack> jac0, use vlc ?
[20:09] <jmyersAway> Dr_Willis: I have a mid range system I bought 4 years ago, with a mid-high end video card.  (once I get the video card running) this hardware will run FAR superior with linux than it did on Windows.  I'll get ANOTHER 5 years outta this hardware thank you Linux.
[20:09] <meero2> how to port forward on existing connection?
[20:10] <jac0> duffydack:yeahh
[20:10] <duffydack> jac0, i personally prefer smplayer, from ppa
[20:10] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: You can use top to see processes, cpu usage per top processes, memory usage, etc.
[20:10] <duffydack> jac0, plays everything
[20:10] <jmyersAway> Dr_Willis: I think another 5 years of use outta my harware is worth some patience in a chat room, and some googling, and some forum reading.
[20:10] <unop> jeffreyf, have you tried the password reset procedure for mysql?
[20:10] <zelrikriando> blakkheim: what do I do there
[20:10] <jac0> duffydack:thanx lemme try it..
[20:10] <jeffreyf> unop,link please?
[20:11] <blakkheim> zelrikriando: edit which partitions you want automounted at startup and what mountpoints to give them
[20:11] <cmojallali> can anyone help me with some MacBook Pro issues?
[20:11] <unop> jeffreyf, I would go on google :)
[20:11] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: In case you didn't know, top is a command line utility for viewing processes, cpu usage, memory usage, etc.
[20:11] <zelrikriando> blakkheim: http://pastebin.com/m40c99ae9
[20:12] <jeffreyf> unop, googling now..
[20:12] <yxz97> is thre an
[20:12] <blakkheim> zelrikriando: what about it? that's where you put the partitions you want to mount.
[20:12] <yxz97> is there any way to reset all gnome settings to its default ?
[20:12] <yxz97> I gettting the desktop UI frozen ---
[20:12] <KMASTR3> hello. when i boot from the live cd, after the loading screen, all i can see are blinking vertical lines. i think it's using the wrong screen res. how can i resolve this?
[20:12] <matts45acp> can someone tell me how to veiw the list of people on this channel,  its not on the side.  im in xchat
[20:13] <Meshezabeel> rob_p: my issue is that I cannot access the server when my cpu is being heavily used, hence the force shutdown. I can run top just fine when it is working fine and there is nothing really noticeable, hence I am looking for logs.
[20:13] <blakkheim> matts45acp: view -> user list (or something like that)
[20:13] <guntbert> matts45acp: ctrl f7
[20:13] <Typh> matts45acp: put your mouse over near the side, it's probably dragged closed
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> matts45acp:  theres a bug in xchat where the 'nick list panel' is sometimes 'moved all the way iover to the right' - look for a little 'handel' and see if you can drag it to the left to make it a little wider.
[20:13] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: I see.  Well, perhaps you can find something in the system logs located in /var/log.
[20:14] <matts45acp> yea that it
[20:14] <matts45acp> it was over there
[20:14] <matts45acp> thanx
[20:14] <zelrikriando> what s the usual mount point for additional partitions
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> Seen that happen on new installs first runs of xchat.. not sure why it does it.
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> zelrikriando:  whever you want. depends on what it is,
[20:14] <yxz97> helo ?
[20:14] <Slyone> ubuntu
[20:14] <zelrikriando> Dr_Willis: some documents
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> zelrikriando:  mine are like /media/torrents  /media/audio  /media/stufftohidefromthewife
[20:15] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: If it's a hard-lockup, you probably won't find any useful log entries due to the lock-up!  Catch-22 situation, unfortunately.
[20:15] <mom> boss_mc, well its working now but it sounds like it is dropping sounds packets or something occasionally
[20:15] <zelrikriando> ok
[20:15] <Slyone> Is there a program for ubuntu like  fruity loops?
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> zelrikriando:  you could even mount them to /home/yourusername/MyDocsDrive
[20:15] <matts45acp> another question please.  when i tried to install a wifi driver in ubuntu and restarted the screen went black and my caps lock button light was blinking.
[20:15] <duffydack> lol stufftohidefromthewife
[20:15] <mikobuntu> Slyone,  yes LMMS
[20:15] <Code_Bleu> -w
[20:17] <thevishy> is there anyway u can make ur monitor in night mode ?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> duffydack:  whats scary is i got 2  1tb hard drives with just HER videos on it.
[20:17] <thevishy> other than manually decrease the contrast brightnes etc
[20:18] <thevishy> whose Dr_Willis
[20:18] <matts45acp> another question please.  when i tried to install a wifi driver in ubuntu and restarted the screen went black and my caps lock button light was blinking.
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | vonadhz
[20:18] <matts45acp> anyone know what thats all about
[20:18] <QuestionMark> hi somebody has installed a DBDesigner 4 in Karmic Koala ?
[20:18] <duffydack> Dr_Willis, define 'videos' :)
[20:18] <guntbert> !ot
[20:18] <zelrikriando> what options do I put for a mount
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> duffydack:  all 10 seasons of 'little house on the prarrie'  Honest.. she boought all 10 seasons... took me a Month to rip them to video for her.
[20:19] <aPanDa> is the rt73usb driver known to cause problems with ubuntu? i'm looking to buy the TP-Link TL-WN321G usb wlan adapter to use with ubuntu, afaik it uses that chipset
[20:19] <QuestionMark> i can't install the xkeybord-config package
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> well its night time for me. Good night all. Good luck vonadhz  - i will be back in about 8 hrs.
[20:19] <jac0> compiz plugin for snow...how u do bout it....
[20:19] <jeffreyf> unop...It looks like this assumes root still works and allows for reset of OTHER user passwords.  I set the password on root to something I forgot and gave it permissions to only one garbage table I was testing with.  I think I need to remove it all and re-initiate MySQL configs
[20:20] <thevishy> i will rephrase my question is there any way in ubuntu to dim the white light of the monitor ?
[20:20] <lastman> I just have got to resolutions, 800x600 and 640x480. Which config file is used to add another resolution in ubuntu 9.10?
[20:20] <sys32> how to registre my nickname ?
[20:20] <QuestionMark> what hardware lastman ?
[20:20] <duffydack> jac0, i got real snow
[20:21] <Meshezabeel> rob_p: okay thanks, any other ideas to know what's causing the over utilization of the cpu when I am not there to look at it?
[20:21] <QuestionMark> .put /msg nickserv register help
[20:21] <VCoolio> thevishy: xflux
[20:21] <lastman> QuestionMark, AMD 4850
[20:21] <sys32> ok thx
[20:21] <sharperguy> Anyone know any good open source graphics application
[20:21] <vonadhz> hey
[20:21] <QuestionMark> put /msg nickserv register help sys32
[20:21] <vonadhz> can sum1 help me
[20:21] <unop> jeffreyf,   usually this should do the trick.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-common
[20:21] <QuestionMark> and the graphical device ?
[20:21] <vonadhz> Hello
[20:21] <thevishy> !xflux
[20:21] <sys32> ot thx
[20:21] <jeffreyf> unop...will let you know
[20:21] <sys32> ok thx
[20:21] <vonadhz> I am trying to change grub2 boot pic
[20:21] <lastman> gdm
[20:21] <vonadhz> and DR Willis kinda told me
[20:21] <QuestionMark> and the graphical device ? lastman  ?
[20:22] <lastman> gdm
[20:22] <jac0> duffydack, how did u install the plugin, am havin hard time
[20:22] <vonadhz> but there is a weird thing
[20:22] <thevishy> VCoolio, whats xflux
[20:22] <vonadhz> can some 1 help me
[20:22] <sharperguy> lastman,  I think if you look at xorg.conf you'll see there is nothing in it, but AFAIK you can just add them to that the same way you always did
[20:22] <VCoolio> thevishy: http://www.stereopsis.com/flux/  download, extract, move to /usr/local/bin and run it with your latitude
[20:22] <matts45acp> another question please.  when i tried to install a wifi driver in ubuntu and restarted the screen went black and my caps lock button light was blinking.
[20:22] <lastman> ah ok
[20:22] <VCoolio> thevishy: at dusk it will dim your monitor, at dawn it will brighten up
[20:22] <guntbert> thevishy: have a look at system/prefrences/power management
[20:23] <jeffreyf> unop....I'm in!  Thanks
[20:23] <QuestionMark> Gimp sharperguy
[20:23] <zelrikriando> what do I put for the filesystem name
[20:23] <zelrikriando> /dev/sda5 or the name of the file
[20:24] <karioke> i am having a problem
[20:24] <QuestionMark> when you're installing ? zelrikriando
[20:24] <karioke> please help
[20:24] <karioke> when i do dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) i get the error "Package `linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic' is not installed and no info is available"
[20:24] <zelrikriando> which is 5cb515e7-841d-4421-a701-4485e24aeedc
[20:24] <lastman> Hm, xorg.conf is missing
[20:24] <QuestionMark> me too karioke
[20:24] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: Sorry about that.  I stepped away for a few minutes.  Anyway, nothing comes to mind.  Are you sure it's CPU usage and not something else like failing RAM?
[20:24] <duffydack> jac0, i havent...i dont feel a need for those types of plugins... it tells you on the compiz site i think...how to use git
[20:24] <sharperguy> QuestionMark, Thanks but actually I typed "graphics" when I meant to type "graphing" sorry
[20:24] <thevishy> guntbert, power management doesnt have the option to adjust monitor brightness ...how can I adjust monitor brightness etc using Ubuntu ?
[20:24] <QuestionMark> ok
[20:25] <trism> sharperguy: gnuplot is pretty good
[20:25] <Meshezabeel> rob_p: well the company that administers my vps says it was CPU
[20:25] <zelrikriando> QuestionMark: I have a partition that is not mounted correctly since I reinstalled
[20:25] <QuestionMark> lastman,  Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[20:25] <fcuk112> i keep getting this: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 0001 00000000 0000502d 00000804 000000ce 00000005, the screen flickers and recovered GPU errors increases by 1.  anyone know how to resolve this?
[20:25] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: I see.  So its a VM...
[20:25] <thevishy> VCoolio, will it be like default ? i only want to use this software in night when I prefer ...not all the time
[20:25] <lastman> Question, Ubuntu 9.10 in a virtual box on Ubuntu 9.04 :-)
[20:26] <guntbert> thevishy: here I have it : set display brightness to.... - I'm on a notebook with karmic
[20:26] <Meshezabeel> rob_p: yes
[20:26] <RB2> After downloading a theme from gnome-art, I install it and choose "Keep Current Theme" instead of applying it immediately. It doesn't appear in the theme list and attempting to re-install tells me "can't move directory over directory"
[20:26] <sharperguy> trism, Thanks, I'll check that out
[20:26] <QuestionMark>  lastman install the guestaditions or somsthing like that,
[20:26] <RB2> Am I missing something?
[20:26] <thevishy> any GUI based software for tis guntbert
[20:27] <terlop> hello
[20:27] <zelrikriando> what s the difference between UUID and /dev/sda5
[20:27] <naxa> hi! a friend of mine has this problem. he is copying an ~500 mb file from an ext3 IDE partition to his NTFS IDE partition with the cp program in terminal. problem: the transfer speed is 10 KB/s!!! lsof shows that nothing else is accessing the ntfs partition, but cp. if he starts a cp of the same file from ext3 to same ext3 _meanwhile_, it's normally fast (10-20 mb/s). what could cause this...
[20:27] <naxa> ...very slow copy from ext3 to ntfs? in his xp, the ntfs drive works fine
[20:27] <zelrikriando> and why when I mount the disk, the name is the UUID
[20:27] <terlop> how can i add an environment variable to Ubuntu 9.10?
[20:27] <guntbert> thevishy: mine *is* gui based - what ubuntu version are you using?
[20:27] <terlop> like permanently add
[20:27] <KMASTR3> anyone? when i boot from the live cd, after the loading screen, all i can see are blinking vertical lines. i think it's using the wrong screen res. how can i resolve this?
[20:27] <thevishy> karmic
[20:27] <QuestionMark> sudo autorun.sh lastman
[20:27] <thevishy> what do I type to get the GUI that adjusts display
[20:27] <blakkheim> naxa: there is an overhead writing to ntfs
[20:28] <naxa> ntfs seems to be slow with a simple ls command
[20:28] <VCoolio> thevishy: it will only run when you activate it; unless you put it in startup apps
[20:28] <terlop> export PYTHONPATH='/home/terlop/Desktop  is just a per-session thing
[20:28] <sys32>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[20:28] <thevishy> ok VCoolio
[20:28] <terlop> help
[20:28] <terlop> how can i add an environment variable to Ubuntu 9.10?
[20:28] <blakkheim> terlop: .bashrc
[20:29] <terlop> what exactly do i have to type into .bashrc file?
[20:29] <zelrikriando> so what do I use
[20:29] <QuestionMark> men, im wanna install DBSesigner 4 over Ubuntu 9.10, but is a rpm package, already create the .deb package via alien, but still in troubñe
[20:29] <lastman> QuestionMark, the command autorun.sh is unknow
[20:30] <ramiras> проверка связи
[20:30] <guntbert> thevishy: here is my dialog: http://imagebin.org/76155
[20:30] <QuestionMark> lasman do you instal the GuestAditions in a VM ?
[20:30] <naxa> blakkheim: what can we do about that? (what is that?:))
[20:30] <zelrikriando> !ru
[20:30] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: You could write a script that tracks the highest CPU users over time.  But maybe you could shut down some of the processes and then slowly add them back to the system.  Either way, you need to know which process is running away.
[20:30] <jac0> duffydack, smplayer doesnt seem to have "samr" plugin its playin the vid wit' no sound
[20:30] <karioke> any help guys?
[20:30] <ubuntu> Hi .. need some help ... I just tried upgrading to lucid lynx alpha .. and my computer doesn't boot anymore ...
[20:30] <DJones> !lucid | ubuntu
[20:30] <Flannel> ubuntu: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support, thanks
[20:30] <blakkheim> naxa: nothing. ntfs3g has to do more work to write to ntfs than writing to a natively-supported filesystem like ext3
[20:30] <fcuk112> i keep getting this: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 0001 00000000 0000502d 00000804 000000ce 00000005, the screen flickers and recovered GPU errors increases by 1.  anyone know how to resolve this?
[20:30] <duffydack> jac0, odd... i can play 3gp fine
[20:31] <Meshezabeel> okay, thanks for your help rob_p
[20:31] <naxa> blakkheim: but 10 kb/s is a little bit too extreme
[20:31] <QuestionMark> RT men, im wanna install DBSesigner 4 over Ubuntu 9.10, but is a rpm package, already create the .deb package via alien, but still in troubñe
[20:31] <acridian> Hi, I need some help with my graphics drivers. I have a Radeon card and I'm running on an Intel chipset, can I use the Catalyst software in the repositories, even though it says AMD?
[20:31] <rob_p> Meshezabeel: Good luck.
[20:31] <vonadhz> hey
[20:31] <vonadhz> any1
[20:31] <vonadhz> Help please
[20:31] <duffydack> jac0, tried installing libopencore-amrnb0 and libopencore-amrwb0
[20:32] <vonadhz> hey
[20:32] <terlop> blakkheim, what about .profile.d?
[20:32] <duffydack> jac0, i installed them with headers when compiling ffmpeg
[20:32] <LewisDre4m> I have been searching for about 3 hours now for what I concidered to be a very simple linux question but obviously not. All I want to know is what USB TV STICKS are supported for linux eg have linux drivers. NOT ANYWHERE I can find that answer. How the hell people are watching tv on linux I don't know.
[20:32] <jac0> duffydack, no i havnt tryd' that lemme see if it will work...
[20:32] <blakkheim> LewisDre4m: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+supported+tv+tuners (that took me about three seconds to do)
[20:32] <naxa> blakkheim: also, the HDD LED is not blinking very much. it's rarely blinking actually!
[20:33] <LewisDre4m> blakkheim: good for you m8. . .good for you.
[20:33] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: I think most of them are using a tv tuner card with a coaxial cable
[20:33] <LewisDre4m> shame you were no bloody help whats so ever earlier if your that good.
[20:33] <thevishy> it seems my monitor is not exactly supported ? its  compaq presaio widescreen ...when I open in software like monitor setting it says something lke , the monitor is in database but doesnt support DDc/CI
[20:33] <zeitlos> whats does a pink colour mean??
[20:33] <LewisDre4m> no need to be sarcastic I am stressed and trying to get this working.
[20:33] <noelito> I am trying to get gtkpod to add music files from a windows xp share mounted using fstab and a type of cifs. Every time I try to add the music, gtkpod grays out and I have to kill it. If I add music from the main drive it works just fine. How can I get this setup to work?
[20:33] <guntbert> LewisDre4m: have you seen http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/ ?
[20:33] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: your question is a very uncommon question
[20:34] <acridian> I have a Radeon Xpress 200M graphics card, how can I get proper 3D acceleration working on Ubuntu 9.10?
[20:34] <QuestionMark> when in try to istall the xlibs 6.8.2xxx package say the xkeyboard-config package in missing, what i can a fix it ?
[20:34] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: you are the first person who I have seen here asking that
[20:34] <LewisDre4m> do none of you guys watch tv on your ubuntu machines?
[20:34] <zelrikriando> I watch youtube
[20:34] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: I know that there are people who do
[20:34] <zelrikriando> it s like TV
[20:34] <pkkm> how to enable system beep?
[20:34] <lstarnes> zelrikriando: he's not talking about youtube...
[20:34] <vonadhz> HEy
[20:35] <lastman> QuestionMark, now the guest additions are installed
[20:35] <LewisDre4m> blakkheim: before you get idiotic and moronic you might want to realise you didn't even supply me with a link, you just typed my question in to google. which produced nothing helpfull and waisted more time. so unless you are going to be helpful please do not pose to me.
[20:35] <lstarnes> also
[20:35] <lstarnes> !tv | LewisDre4m
[20:35] <blakkheim> LewisDre4m: if the device is not supported under linux, no amount of crying and rudeness in here is going to make it work.
[20:35] <lstarnes> and
[20:35] <lstarnes> !coc | LewisDre4m
[20:35] <LewisDre4m> I'm not talking about my device.
[20:36] <thevishy> VCoolio, what is the formt of giving latitue ?
[20:36] <LewisDre4m> Im talking about buying a new one with linux support
[20:36] <LewisDre4m> so you need to learn to read and listen before being rude your self. now be quiet as there are actually people here who have been helpful.
[20:36] <terlop> !cock LewisDre4m
[20:36] <blakkheim> LewisDre4m: the links on google provide a list of supported devices
[20:37] <LewisDre4m> blakkheim: shhhh now.
[20:37] <VCoolio> thevishy: hang on
[20:37] <QuestionMark> lastman, ha VBOXADDITIONS volume has been created (you can see the icon into a desktop), the path must be /media/cdrom , try sudo /media/cdrom/autorun.sh
[20:37] <thevishy> okay
[20:37] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: Here's one that is designed for Linux:  http://www.pchdtv.com/
[20:37] <AyCarumba> I need help running wine? Its installed, but I d/l 'd a exe file how do I install it under wine???
[20:37] <LewisDre4m> rob_p:  thank you man i'll take a look.
[20:37] <danny> Hey everyone, I just ran some updates and Firefox just got branded as Shiretoko. How do I revert it back as Firefox? I think it did it because I had added some repository.
[20:37] <lastman> QuestionMark, already done
[20:37] <VCoolio> thevishy: like this for Netherlands: xflux -l 52.05
[20:37] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: I've used one for a while and it works flawlessly.
[20:37] <zeitlos> theres a tool called playonlinux
[20:38] <lstarnes> danny: was it the ubuntu mozilla team's daily build PPA?
[20:38] <LewisDre4m> Oh really. is it usb?
[20:38] <QuestionMark> press host key +G to expand the desktop into a VM window
[20:38] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: does it have to be usb?
[20:38] <QuestionMark> press host key +G to expand the desktop into a VM window lastman
[20:38] <thevishy> right I will try it thanks
[20:38] <danny> lstarnes: I'm not really sure
[20:38] <LewisDre4m> doesn't "have" to but very much prefered.
[20:38] <zeitlos> is not bad, you can choose different versions to run apps
[20:38] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: No.  It's a PCI card.
[20:38] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: it would probably be better to use a PCI card for that
[20:38] <LewisDre4m> ye thats what i'm just starting to think.
[20:39] <QuestionMark> Some fine database modeler over ubuntu ?
[20:39] <terlop> help, i'm drowning
[20:39] <LewisDre4m> I don't even have pci express on this m/bord so would have to be PCI
[20:39] <terlop> what exactly do i have to type into .bashrc file?
[20:39] <Exetubin> i need help.... i installed xubuntu 9.10 on my pS3 but I can't get my touchdisk (in my Logitech diNovo edge keyboard) to work... anyone have an idea?
[20:39] <terlop> to add an environment variable to Ubuntu 9.10
[20:39] <AyCarumba> I need help running wine? Its installed, but I d/l 'd a exe file how do I install it under wine???
[20:39] <danny> The reposity I added was ppa.launchpad.net
[20:39] <LewisDre4m> rob_p how old is your card?
[20:39] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: You may find something USB that works for TV under Linux, but it's doubtful.
[20:40] <fcuk112> i keep getting this: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 0001 00000000 0000502d 00000804 000000ce 00000005, the screen flickers and recovered GPU errors increases by 1.  anyone know how to resolve this?
[20:40] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: I've had it for about 2 years now.
[20:40] <ardnew> terlop: if you want an environment variable set, you probably dont want it done in .bashrc as thats only used by bash
[20:40] <LewisDre4m> and its digital?
[20:40] <ardnew> terlop: but you would type 'export var="whatever"'
[20:40] <LewisDre4m> Ok thanks man i'll take a look at some. I will prob go pci now. USB was prehaps too specific.
[20:40] <ardnew> or type man export
[20:40] <Exetubin> the Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard is a mouse / keyboard combo... the keyboard works fine, but, for some reason, the touch pad does not work
[20:40] <jac0> duffydack, i tried all dat n ain' workin i even install ffmpeg....jeez
[20:40] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: Check out their site.  It has all the info.
[20:41] <LewisDre4m> cheers m8
[20:41] <terlop> ardnew, please guide me to set an environment variable PYTHONPATH and set it the path to the desktop, so to ~/Desktop
[20:41] <Exetubin> anyone knows how I can fix this?
[20:41] <thebitguru> Hi, can someone please help me install wtorrent?  I have tried to set this up, but it keeps giving me this issue: http://www.pastethat.com/DSpGu
[20:41] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: Even has the Linux Penguin logo on the page!
[20:41] <LewisDre4m> ye I saw lol
[20:41] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: Definitely supported!  :-)
[20:41] <LewisDre4m> lol
[20:41] <ardnew> terlop: export PYTHONPATH="$HOME/Desktop" maybe
[20:41] <danny> can anyone just show me how to get Firefox branded as Firefox instead of Shiretoko?
[20:41] <lastman> QuestionMark, I ve restarted the vm with Ubuntu 9.10. Now its set to 1024x768. Thats ok
[20:41] <lgc> How is it that when I run Firefox 3.5 on 9.10 it starts Firefox 2?
[20:42] <lstarnes> danny: only official builds of firefox are allowed to be branded as firefox
[20:42] <seme> can anyone point me to where there is a technical description of how ubuntu sits with upstart?
[20:42] <LewisDre4m> rob_p: Thank you for your help. And others who helped. and please give out your sympathy for the clearly retarded guy who was being a pain.
[20:42] <thebitguru> Also, I am getting "[notice] child pid 27994 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)" when I visit wtorrent/index.php
[20:42] <wgrant> danny: You'll need to find a version officially blessed by Mozilla. That probably means removing the repository that you added and downgrading.
[20:42] <LewisDre4m> i'm out bb
[20:42] <seme> I am having a hard time finding documentation in the published documentation
[20:42] <wgrant> lgc: It probably doesn't. What gives you that idea?
[20:42] <rob_p> LewisDre4m: Cheers and good luck mate.
[20:42] <QuestionMark> lastman, u welcome
[20:42] <AyCarumba> I need help running wine? Its installed, but I d/l 'd a exe file how do I install it under wine???
[20:42] <danny> lstarnes: would it work if I just uninstalled and installed it again?
[20:42] <seme> online there is info about upstart but not really ubuntu's implementation
[20:42] <Exetubin> i need help.... i installed xubuntu 9.10 on my pS3 but I can't get my touchdisk (in my Logitech diNovo edge keyboard) to work... anyone have an idea?
[20:42] <lstarnes> danny: no
[20:43] <seme> for instance how do you know if a program is upstart native or still using standard sysv?
[20:43] <Exetubin> the Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard is a mouse / keyboard combo... the keyboard works fine, but, for some reason, the touch pad does not work
[20:43] <QuestionMark> Wine is a Virtual Machine ?
[20:43] <AyCarumba> How do install .exe files under wine?
[20:43] <wgrant> seme: Look in /etc/init. If it's there, it is an upstart job.
[20:43] <lgc> wgrant, when I display Help->About it says <IP_ADDRESS>.
[20:43] <terlop> ardnew, your proposal sets PYTHONPATH for the current terminal session only
[20:43] <wgrant> lgc: What *have* you been doing?
[20:43] <guntbert> seme: you have of course seen http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/ ?
[20:43] <seme> wgrant, thats what I was doing but wasn't sure
[20:43] <pc1> ,,,
[20:43] <lstarnes> QuestionMark: no
[20:43] <wgrant> lgc: Was this upgraded from 8.04?
[20:43] <terlop> when bash is restarted, I loose that variable
[20:43] <AyCarumba> How do you install .exe files or windows programs under wine?
[20:43] <lstarnes> QuestionMark: it's a compatibility layer
[20:43] <lstarnes> AyCarumba: open a terminal
[20:43] <seme> no
[20:43] <ardnew> terlop: then you are not doing it right
[20:43] <lastman> QuestionMark, thanks for helping
[20:44] <seme> guntbert, that looks cool
[20:44] <lstarnes> AyCarumba: then use this: wime filename.exe
[20:44] <terlop> how come?
[20:44] <lstarnes> AyCarumba: oops, that should be wine, not wime
[20:44] <AyCarumba> ok
[20:44] <QuestionMark> ok lstarnes
[20:44] <AyCarumba> thank y
[20:44] <seme> guntbert, why do you mention that
[20:44] <guntbert> seme: :)
[20:44] <lgc> wgrant, nothing, actually? And I've been upgrading on step at a time since Dapper Drake!
[20:44] <seme> guntbert, I mean it looks cool but not sure how it applies to upstart?
[20:44] <terlop> i typed (actually copy&pasted) exactly as you typed
[20:44] <wgrant> lgc: Aha. What if you just run 'firefox' in a terminal?
[20:44] <lgc> wgrant, lemme check.
[20:44] <jac0> AyCarumba, right click anyfile wit the extention ull see "open with wine loader" ...blah blah....
[20:45] <wgrant> lgc: Make sure you close all Firefox windows before doing that.
[20:45] <guntbert> seme: sorry, wrong link, it should be http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[20:45] <seme> guntbert, thanks... yeah I saw that...
[20:45] <ardnew> terlop: I recommend you place the line in the file "~/.bash_profile"
[20:45] <ardnew> and instead of using the relative path, use the line export PYTHONPATH="/home/youruser/Desktop"
[20:45] <seme> oddly though it looks like for some reason the commands don't also work with old sysv jobs
[20:45] <ardnew> @ terlop
[20:46] <lgc> wgrant, same thing. But it's been happening since yesterday or so. And I haven't messed with any settings.
[20:46] <wgrant> lgc: ls -l `which firefox`
[20:46] <lgc> wgrant, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-12-18 18:09 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.5.
[20:46] <terlop> in what file does the variable PYTHONPATH go when i do  export PYTHONPATH="$HOME/Desktop"  ??
[20:47] <lgc> wgrant, only thing I did is install Chrome.
[20:47] <ardnew> terlop: it can go in several different files. placing it in .bashrc  is fine and will continue working for every new instance of bash you start
[20:47] <zelrikriando> hello
[20:47] <zelrikriando> (again)
[20:48] <terlop> ardnew, i don't know how to edit .bashrc
[20:48] <wgrant> lgc: OK, close all your Firefox windows, and ensure that there are no firefox processes at all running (ps aux | grep firefox).
[20:48] <terlop> i am affraid i'll break anything
[20:48] <guntbert> terlop: it goes in no file by itself - its just in memory
[20:48] <wgrant> lgc: Then try starting it from the commandline again.
[20:48] <Aindriu> anyone know any decent place for downloading drivers for ubuntu?
[20:48] <zelrikriando> I think I managed to mount my secondary partition but I still get an error message
[20:48] <jac0> is there an emulator for wm6
[20:48] <wgrant> Aindriu: You shouldn't. Why do you think you need to?
[20:48] <zelrikriando> when I click on the partition name, it says mount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /home/zelrik/BackupDisk busy
[20:48] <zelrikriando> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda5 is already mounted on /home/zelrik/BackupDisk
[20:49] <jac0> is there an emulator for wm6  (windows mobile 6)
[20:49] <Aindriu> wgrant, I need drivers for my motherboard i think
[20:49] <wgrant> Aindriu: You are probably mistaken. Why?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> hi
[20:50] <ardnew> terlop: type this at a command line: echo 'export PYTHONPATH="$HOME/Desktop"' >> ~/.bashrc
[20:50] <ardnew> and then restart bash
[20:50] <Aindriu> well, the ethernet on the motherboard isnt working, and neither is the inbuilt sound card on the motherboard
[20:50] <terlop> thanks
[20:50] <lgc> wgrant, it's 3.5 now. But I don't see any logic.
[20:51] <Typh> what program controls alt-tab task switching? I seem to have disabled it
[20:51] <wgrant> lgc: How did you start it before?
[20:51] <knightrage> Typh: for me, ccsm
[20:51] <wgrant> lgc: I suspect that is pointing to the wrong thing (it should just run 'firefox')
[20:51] <Typh> oh, yeah that'd make sense
[20:52] <lgc> wgrant, from the panel or from the drop-down menu. I even tried running /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 and it got me Version 2.
[20:52] <phantomsv> anyone knows how to convert rmvb to avi in ubuntu9.10?
[20:53] <seme> ok so I'm a little confused... if, for instance, I want to stop apache from starting by default in any runlevel I should just do...  service apache2 stop && update-rc.d apache2 disable
[20:53] <seme> is that right?
[20:53] <VCoolio> phantomsv: why don't you install realplayer?
[20:53] <wgrant> lgc: That will happen if there are any other Firefox 2.0 processes running. Try closing all the windows again, making sure nothing's still running, and then launch via all those methods. Firefox does a strange thing where it communicates between instances of itself, so it will always launch the version that is already running.
[20:54] <seme> and if it is, then will it remove the actual /etc/init.d/apache2 script or just the rc?.d K and S scripts
[20:54] <phantomsv> VCoolio, i want to convert it.
[20:54] <seme> also then what is the point of the /etc/default/apache2 option for it not to start?
[20:54] <seme> sorry if this is confusing but the docs are just not clear
[20:54] <wgrant> seme: Just the rc?.d scripts will be removed.
[20:54] <dtoole> whats the difference between adm and admin
[20:54] <dtoole> groups
[20:55] <wgrant> dtoole: adm is there for historical reasons. I think it pretty much just allows access to logs, these days.
[20:55] <naxa> hardy. copying an 500 mb file, from ide ext3 to ide ntfs with cp is very slow, 10 KB/s. no other process access the ntfs. however, it is very slow to even complete an "ls" command. ext3 works very fast if copying to itself, it's ok. also, the ntfs is ok under win xp. what could be the problem with the ntfs? how could i solve it?
[20:55] <wgrant> dtoole: admin lets people use sudo and other admin tools.
[20:55] <VCoolio> phantomsv: mencoder seems to be able to do it
[20:56] <dtoole> ok... so I'm thinking I should chown a backup partition to the admin group... would that be a good choice?
[20:56] <rob_p> seme: It's "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove" if you want to remove it from the startup.  Apache2 and it's startup script are still installed but removed from the runlevels.
[20:56] <dtoole> wgrant: or would you recommend a different group
[20:56] <lgc> wgrant, OK, that makes "sense", if I can call it that. I'm removing 2.0 now since it won't do much good.
[20:56] <mcdermmn> is there a easy way to find out how many block group a partion has without mounting it?
[20:56] <wgrant> lgc: Welcome to the world of Firefox insanity!
[20:57] <wgrant> dtoole: admin is probably a reasonable choice.
[20:57] <seme> is that the right way to manage the services? I mean then what is the point of the /etc/default/jetty having a NO_START option?
[20:57] <seme> or is this just more inconsistency... meaning each package kind of does things differently
[20:58] <lgc> wgrant, that's why I'm switching to Chrome, with its KISS approach. But mine doesn't display PDFs (just a black tab). It's a beta release.
[20:58] <rob_p> seme: If you want to add it back to the startup, do the following:  sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[20:58] <VCoolio> phantomsv: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=104161 explains some stuff, seems sensible
[20:58] <dtoole> can someone explain this one to me:  # chown root:admin My\ Passport/
[20:58] <dtoole> chown: changing ownership of `My Passport/': Operation not permitted
[20:58] <wgrant> lgc: I use Chromium. When I navigate to a PDF, it downloads it as I would expect.
[20:58] <seme> rob_p: thanks... any insite on the /etc/default stuff?
[20:58] <wgrant> dtoole: You can only chown if you are root.
[20:58] <seme> I'm just trying to understand
[20:58] <dtoole> wgrant: that was from a root prompt
[20:59] <lgc> wgrant, maybe Chromium is better than Chrome...:).
[20:59] <dtoole> wgrant: I tried sudo as well before sudo su'ing and it also failed
[20:59] <minivan> can anyone help me with a question?
[20:59] <wgrant> dtoole: You probably have some non-POSIX filesystem on that device.
[20:59] <wgrant> dtoole: eg. FAT32 or NTFS.
[20:59] <wgrant> !ask | minivan
[20:59]  * seme wishes that the ubuntu gods would write up some standards and only allow packages if they pass a minimum set of standards, ie documentation, conformance to ubuntu standards, etc
[20:59] <CrazyC> hey this is my first time here
[20:59] <rob_p> seme: /etc/default gives you options for many of the daemons on the system.  Sometimes their entries in /etc/default give you a quick way of disabling the service without removing their startup scripts from the runlevels.
[20:59] <wgrant> lgc: It's open source, and I know Google isn't spying on me too much...
[20:59] <dtoole> wgrant: I do... ntfs... I'll ignore that one for now
[20:59] <CrazyC> Can i ask a simple question
[21:00] <terlop> !ask
[21:00] <minivan> !ask
[21:00] <DeepTime> !ask
[21:00] <seme> rob_p, argg ok...
[21:00] <seme> thanks
[21:00] <seme> :)
[21:00] <dtoole> wgrant: lgc:  Apart from the closed source nature... I haven't seen any differences between chome and chromium
[21:00] <lolmac> hi, does anyone know the default music player that comes built in ubuntu 9.10?
[21:00] <wgrant> lolmac: Rhythmbox, as with all previous releases.
[21:00] <CrazyC> My Frostwire is freezing and also my mozilla
[21:00] <CrazyC> why?
[21:00] <lgc> wgrant, I wonder why it took them so long to release it. The Windows version has been there for long.
[21:00] <rob_p> seme: ...but the general method of controling auto start of services is through the update-rc.d command.
[21:01] <lolmac> wgrant, when it searches for mp3 and wma it doesn't find no codecs this is normal?
[21:01] <wgrant> lgc: There was a lot of porting work because of, among other things, the multi-process sandboxing model.
[21:01] <lolmac> mp3 and wma codec
[21:01] <dtoole> lgc: I did read that the chromium community helped them get chrome out the door
[21:01] <wgrant> lolmac: No, that's not normal.
[21:01] <wgrant> !mp3 | lolmac
[21:01] <minivan> I installed ubuntu 9.10 on my computer, it has an intel video card using HDMI out running to my Panasonic 42" plasma screen... however the margins are messed up. The desktop doesnt fit in the monitor space, therefore I cannot see any toolbars
[21:01] <CrocoJet> new ubuntu 9.10, webcam is not working.
[21:01] <minivan> is there a way to adjust margins?
[21:01] <andyzammy> hello everyone! i'm looking for some help with data recovery. not sure how it happened but my external HD is now empty (500.1 GB Media, used to be called EXTHD with a good few hundred gig on it). i've downloaded testdisk but have no idea how to use it
[21:01] <CrocoJet> any solution for that ?
[21:02] <jmyers> minivan: you running an ATI video card, aren't you?
[21:02] <minivan> yes
[21:02] <jac0> Crocojet, try installing cheese
[21:02] <jac0> CrocoJet, try installing cheese
[21:02] <CrocoJet> jac0, let me see
[21:02] <lgc> wgrant, dtoole, excuse my ignorance, but I am just finding out that Chromium actually exists. I thought it was wgrant's typo!
[21:02] <seme> rob_p, one last question... do you know what the ?, +, - mean when you run a service --status-all
[21:02] <minivan> jmyers: yes
[21:02] <jmyers> minivan: I'm dealing with the same struggle.  Actually installing the drivers right now (AGAIN) after finding lots of libraries and what not.  I'll let you know how it goes. :/
[21:02] <wgrant> lgc: Chromium existed on Linux for a long time before Chrome.
[21:02] <wgrant> lgc: And it's completely open source.
[21:02] <minivan> jmyers: thanks
[21:02] <dtoole> lgc: yeah chromium has been out for a long while
[21:03] <wgrant> lgc: (and it existed on Windows for a long time before that)
[21:03] <CrocoJet> jac0, webcam turn on but only black screen at cheese
[21:03] <jmyers> minivan: ATI / AMD support of linux is pretty weak in the video department so far.
[21:03] <jmyers> minivan: at least, that's my opinoin.
[21:03] <lgc> wgrant, dtoole, gotta give it a try then!
[21:03] <strange> anyone know how to restart usb mouse from command line it stops working after a while in karmic
[21:03] <wgrant> jmyers: But the open source drivers work pretty well, particularly in what will become Ubuntu 10.04.
[21:03] <minivan> jmyers: ive known that... its just that i have no problems other than using on my panasonic tv
[21:03] <CrocoJet> I have "Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0ac8:0302 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0302 Webcam"
[21:04] <minivan> jmyers: if its hooked into a regular monitor it works fine
[21:04] <jmyers> wgrant: they 'work', but the acceleration sucks.
[21:04] <lolmac> wgrant, is there anyway for me to add music shortcuts to this player?
[21:04] <CrocoJet> its pleomax webcam samsung
[21:04] <ardnew> minivan, jmyers: getting ubuntu in proper res on my HDTV just required me to generate the correct modeline for my display (using the TVs user manual) and adding it to my xorg.conf
[21:04] <CrocoJet> always works pretty nice at ubuntu 9.04
[21:04] <jmyers> minivan: it has something to do with the hdmi output
[21:04] <wgrant> jmyers: I have nice fairly fast open source 3D acceleration on my Radeon HD 3400, without the need for awful fglrx.
[21:04] <jac0> CrocoJet, the webcam intergrated?
[21:04] <ardnew> every attempt X11 tried to auto-detect caused the screen to be awkwardly placed on screen
[21:04] <wgrant> ardnew: Did you file a bug?
[21:04] <jmyers> wgrant: I'm about to reboot and let you know. lol, stand by
[21:04] <TECNOPATA> hello guys im newbie and i need help to install a tar.gz. file,... can u help me pls???
[21:04] <CrocoJet> jac0, desktop computer and its regular camcorder
[21:04] <ardnew> wgrant: no I didnnt think it was an ubuntu bug
[21:04] <TECNOPATA> look this is the readme of the file: http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/fWPd7sqJ1H
[21:04] <TECNOPATA> what do i need to do???
[21:04] <lgc> wgrant, dtoole, according to Synaptic, I got it installed, but it's some game!
[21:05] <lolmac> wgrant, in other player i could add music shortcuts, because i have 80gb of music, so it was added rapidly, this rhythmbox appears to take a long long time
[21:05] <wgrant> lgc: Hm?
[21:05] <wgrant> ardnew: Are you using fglrx?
[21:05] <lgc> wgrant, a game, not a browser.
[21:05] <rob_p> seme: Perhaps the manpage can shed some light.  I don't use service command often.
[21:05] <lgc> wgrant, chromium-bsu.
[21:05] <dtoole> lgc: yeah... someone is taking advantage of a naming thing... the instructions for it are online
[21:05] <dtoole> it involves installing a ppa
[21:05] <wgrant> lgc: Ah. That's been renamed to chromium-bsg recently. You want chromium-browser, for which you'll need to install the chromium-daily PPA ('add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily')
[21:05] <guntbert> TECNOPATA: what are you trying to install? did you search the repos?
[21:06] <wgrant> lgc: bsu, oops, not bsg, right.
[21:06] <Viking667> Really quick question: where do I find out how to map sounds to events?
[21:06] <dtoole> lgc: the package name will be chromium-browser
[21:06] <seme> rob_p, thanks... yeah I've beengoing through the man pages... haven't figured it out yet but thanks for your help
[21:06] <CrocoJet> many things change in 9.10 if compared with 9.04 about video ?
[21:06] <Viking667> I'm trying to find a sound file for the "Alert" event, but I've no idea where to loo.
[21:06] <Viking667> look.
[21:06] <wgrant> dtoole: Taking advantage of a naming thing? Chromium BSU was around for many years before Chromium or Chrome were thought of.
[21:06] <ardnew> wgrant: no
[21:06] <rob_p> seme: You must be on a RH distro...
[21:06] <Ivis> Hello
[21:06] <wgrant> ardnew: Then it's an Ubuntu bug.
[21:07] <ardnew> wgrant: its an nvidia chipset
[21:07] <suigeneris> Viking667 System > Preferences > Sound
[21:07] <illuminati> hi
[21:07] <Viking667> there isn't on.
[21:07] <illuminati> does anyonw know why suddenlty I can not see the connection LISTENING. If I do netstat -putan I only see ESTABLISHED conection but not LISTEN. It's very wirdo
[21:07] <lgc> wgrant, what's the chromium-daily PPA?
[21:07] <Viking667> one.
[21:07] <lllll> hi, im trying to figure out why www.partypoker.com/anywhere isn't loading on my firefox in ubuntu ..i have the netbook remix
[21:07] <jmyers1> wgrant: welp, I just jumped on the old FAILBOAT
[21:07] <rob_p> seme: I use service on CentOS systems I administer.
[21:07] <dtoole> wgrant: ah, wasn't aware.  I figured the maintainer of the bsu game just saw a popularity oportunity... was very odd that it would be allowed but that makes more sense (that the game was the grandfather)
[21:07] <Viking667> i.e. I have System, Preferences,  just no ... sound.
[21:07] <wgrant> ardnew: Ah. Are you using the proprietary drivers? If not, it's still an Ubuntu bug.
[21:07] <illuminati> with netstat -lt I don't get any connection
[21:07] <TECNOPATA> im triying to install this http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/eric4-download.html  edi or ide i dont know how to say but i dont know how to do it
[21:07] <suigeneris> Viking667 are you using GNOME?
[21:07] <jmyers1> wgrant: not only did I screw up my video, I managed to screw up grub while I was at it.
[21:07] <wgrant> jmyers1: Well done!
[21:07] <spilakviktor> hihi
[21:08] <CrocoJet> spca5xx/LE gspca v4l1/v4l2
[21:08] <Oilut> hi how do i share a folder i do not own? i gotta do it as SU
[21:08] <Oilut> OR... how can i own this folder?
[21:08] <wgrant> dtoole: Chromium BSU has been around for at least 9 years now.
[21:08] <wgrant> dtoole: That almost predates Google itself...
[21:08] <jmyers1> wgrant: I've been dealing with this for a week. :(  Dozens of reinstalls.  I'm getting very furstrated.
[21:08] <Viking667> I should be. I'm on Ubuntu with the Studio stuff added.
[21:08] <CrocoJet> so my webcam is totally compatible with linux
[21:08] <CrocoJet> why do not works ?
[21:08] <Viking667> I'm just going to recheck
[21:08] <CrazyC> thanks Chanserv!
[21:08] <newser> hello, where can I find info on how to upgrade my system to the latest ubuntu edition and have the same icons and graphics???
[21:08] <suigeneris> Oilut chown
[21:08] <kashhh> hello, fellow Linux users!
[21:08] <Oilut> suigeneris: thanks
[21:08] <suigeneris> Oilut np
[21:09] <newser> anyone knows a  good application to record GPS data?
[21:09] <guntbert> !info eric | TECNOPATA use this one
[21:09] <kashhh> i'm on the verge of installing Linux. which Linux suits me best?
[21:09] <newser> !upgrade
[21:10] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me exactly what is happening here /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-PAEmzS/database -nolisten tcp vt7  as it is consuming plenty of cpu?
[21:10] <rob_p> kashhh: Why Ubuntu, of course!  :-)
[21:10] <Viking667> Nope. Definitely no "Sound" category in "System->Preferences"
[21:10] <Oilut> suigeneris: its like `chown -c login /media/Tulio (/media/Tulio is the folder)
[21:10] <Oilut> ?
[21:10] <wgrant> Pirate_Hunter: That's the X.org server -- the thing that provides your graphical display.
[21:10] <kashhh> rob_p, ok, but many people have been saying i should try Fedora
[21:10] <suigeneris> Oilut what is the username?
[21:10] <seme> he hee if in doubt just read the code... if anyone else is interested ? means unknown, + means running and - means not running... which is actually quite interesting since my system lists many jobs as not known but initctl list shows the status and pid.... crappy script
[21:10] <lllll> hi, im trying to figure out why www.partypoker.com/anywhere isn't loading on my firefox in ubuntu ..i have the netbook remix ..i downloaded the sun java  6 runtime..
[21:10] <Oilut> suigeneris: tulio
[21:10] <TuxthePenguin> Hey guys I have a question
[21:11] <Viking667> ... though I did find a "Notifications" inside "System->Preferences->System Settings"
[21:11] <andyzammy> can anybody help me try and recover my lost data please? it looks as though my external hd has been reformatted (empty and lost its name)
[21:11] <Pirate_Hunter> wgrant, I know that but what is it doing such as the rest of the commands
[21:11] <newser> is it possible to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and have the new look?
[21:11] <wgrant> Pirate_Hunter: That's just basic configuration. Nothing that will eat any more CPU.
[21:11] <TECNOPATA> guntbert: can u help step bye step?
[21:11] <wgrant> newser: Yes. Just upgrade.
[21:11] <jmyers1> any recommendations how I can get this system loaded with a terminal so I can restore my xorg.conf back to where it was before I ran this ati driver with the --buildandinstallpkg Ubuntu/karmic option?  I've managed to kill grub in the process. :(
[21:12] <suigeneris> Oilut sudo chown tulio /media/Tulio
[21:12] <wgrant> newser: Unless you've customised your theme settings, you will get the new look,.
[21:12] <rob_p> kashhh: In reality, Linux is Linux.  There are subtle differences among the various distros but when you know one, you know them all.  It comes down to how much experience you have with Linux, as to which one you should start with.
[21:12] <Oilut> suigeneris: nicee
[21:12] <TuxthePenguin> If I change to a new login screen (I'm on 9.04) will it be possible the screen is to big and I can't log in?
[21:12] <billy_> hey. why isnt ctrl+alt+backspace restarting X. it does nothing? im on 9.04 64 bit...
[21:12] <newser> wgrant, ok, thanks. By any chance do you know any application that may help  me get GPS data?
[21:12] <TuxthePenguin> billy_ they took out that shortcut
[21:12] <Darkchylde> billy_: that button combo was changed.
[21:12] <wgrant> newser: I don't, sorry.
[21:12] <rob_p> kashhh: Ubuntu is a very user-friendly version but underneath the hood, it's all Linux!
[21:12] <newser> wgrant,  thanks ;)
[21:13] <suigeneris> billy_ System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts, set it
[21:13] <Pirate_Hunter> wgrant, continuously spiking fro 30-70 cpu yet it wasn't listed before
[21:13] <CrazyC>  have they fixed alot of the bugs on 9.10
[21:13] <billy_> TuxthePenguin, Darkchylde , what is the new shortcut? i thought it changed in 9.10
[21:13] <gdiz> hey I am trying to set up a media server on an ubuntu box.  I want to control it remotely from another computer.  I have located the vnc server and all that, but what I want to do is control the computer without it sending an image of the monitor back because it takes up too much CPU
[21:13] <wgrant> Pirate_Hunter: It'll be some application that you're running.
[21:13] <Darkchylde> billy_: right alt+print screen+k.
[21:13] <Oilut> suigeneris: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /media/Tulio as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own.
[21:13] <wgrant> billy_: Why do you want to use it?
[21:13] <TuxthePenguin> I thought they took out the whole shortcut
[21:13] <billy_> wgrant, trying to enable direct rendering
[21:14] <suigeneris> TuxthePenguin no
[21:14] <wgrant> billy_: Just log out and in.
[21:14] <guntbert> TECNOPATA: 1) check if universe is enabled - /system/administration/software/sources - is community maintained (universe) checked?
[21:14] <billy_> cheers
[21:14] <wgrant> TuxthePenguin: That's right. But the kernel has a kill-whatever-is-running-here-really-hard shortcut built in.
[21:14] <Oilut> how do i check who owns the folder?
[21:14] <Ivis> kashhh use gentoo
[21:14] <ardnew> gdiz: you can use ssh
[21:14] <fixer_33> Hi i've got a problem with Apache, I can't open localhost/user/ I can only see 403 Forbidden, changing CHMOD doesn't work
[21:15] <ardnew> gdiz: you can also look into X11 forwarding over ssh if you absolutely need a GUI displayed locally for an application running on the remote server
[21:15] <suigeneris> fixer_33 do you have an index file there?
[21:15] <Pirate_Hunter> wgrant, ... ok will check the system see what is running in the background
[21:15] <Hilikus> can someone give me a command to extract line N to M from a text file please
[21:15] <yo_rmn> hello, We always need to send /msg NickServ identify? or we can automatize That?
[21:15] <andyzammy> does anybody know how to use testdisk?
[21:15] <suigeneris> fixer_33 either html or php
[21:15] <TuxthePenguin> My shortcut that I use when the computer freezes is Alt+SysRQ and slowly press REISUB one by one (Its built in the Kernel so it will always work)
[21:15] <Oilut> how do i check who owns the folder?
[21:15] <TuxthePenguin> its better than hard rebooting
[21:16] <gdiz> ardnew, yeah I'm messing with hulu so I need the gui
[21:16] <suigeneris> Oilut ls dir -ld
[21:16] <gdiz> ardnew, how do you do the X11 forwarding in that way?
[21:16] <Typh> how is preference given if a package is in two software sources?
[21:16] <guntbert> TECNOPATA: find it?
[21:16] <fixer_33> suigeneris : yeah, I've got, but the problem is no permission for acces to the folder
[21:16] <ardnew> gdiz: enable X11 forwarding in the remove server's sshd config file and restart
[21:16] <lgc> wgrant, now when I try and run Chromium Chrome appears.
[21:17] <TECNOPATA> no,...
[21:17] <yo_rmn> We always need to send /msg NickServ identify? or we can automatize That?
[21:17] <wgrant> Typh: By default, the one with the newest version. If they are the same version, the one listed first in sources.list wins.
[21:17] <ardnew> gdiz: then connect to the remote server using ssh -X
[21:17] <TECNOPATA> guntbert: no i cant find that
[21:17] <wgrant> yo_rmn: Most clients have an option to automate that.
[21:17] <Typh> wgrant: good, that's what I was hoping
[21:17] <suigeneris> fixer_33 check if dir has permissions 755
[21:17] <wgrant> lgc: You closed all Chrome windows?
[21:17] <yo_rmn> pidgin?
[21:17] <Oilut> suigeneris: its still as root
[21:17] <suigeneris> yo_rmn #pidgin
[21:17] <ardnew> gdiz: (this is assuming bboth machines are running X11)
[21:17] <yo_rmn> I did look for it
[21:17] <Oilut> suigeneris: /media/Tulio is another partition in the HD.....
[21:17] <gdiz> ardnew, I am a bit of a newbie.  where is the sshd and what do you need to put in it
[21:18] <lgc> wgrant, seems so.
[21:18] <guntbert> TECNOPATA: open system menu, choose administration, choose software sources
[21:18] <yo_rmn> thx
[21:18] <suigeneris> Oilut shouldn't matter
[21:18] <ardnew> gdiz: but I dont understand why are you trying to view hulu streams from a remote machine on your local machine
[21:18] <lgc> wgrant, unless Chromium looks so similar to Chrome that it is not distinguishable.
[21:18] <Oilut> suigeneris: do i need to restart for the changes to take effect?
[21:18] <newser> !upgrade
[21:18] <gdiz> ardnew, my ubuntu box is hooked up to my TV
[21:19] <bodi> ok i am back after tring to find answers need help with rk warnings
[21:19] <wgrant> lgc: They are almost identical. What does the About dialog say?
[21:19] <guntbert> TECNOPATA: I cannot be here all night - so please report back what is happening
[21:19] <ardnew> gdiz: try logging into the remote machine via ssh, then launching your web browser with the hulu URL as an argument
[21:19] <gdiz> ardnew, I don't need to see the stream on my client computer, but the ubuntu box needs to show it
[21:19] <Oilut> suigeneris: why cant i share then?
[21:20] <steve380> I am using the latest ubuntu and my video and audio is buggy....anyone else experience this??
[21:20] <CrazyC> So has some or most of the bugs in the new 9.10 been flushed?
[21:20] <ardnew> gdiz: maybe the software "synergy" is all you need for what you're wanting
[21:20] <lgc> wgrant, oh, I was wrong. It is indeed Chromium!
[21:20] <suigeneris> Oilut just a sec, I'm checking my settings
[21:20] <Oilut> suigeneris: sure
[21:20] <wgrant> lgc: Chromium is Chrome minus some proprietary Google branding and some probably undesirable features that I haven't noticed.
[21:21] <jmyers2> wgrant: I managed to get back to /etc/X11 and restore my xorg.conf, now you wanna point the way to those open source drivers?  I'll give them a shot.
[21:21] <bodi> ? when you are available
[21:21] <newser> how can I upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 using terminal? I tried followiing the official upgrade procedure but the update manager is not showing the upgrading option
[21:21] <steve380> I am using the latest ubuntu and my video and audio is buggy....anyone else experience this??
[21:21] <wgrant> jmyers2: The open source drivers are installed and used by default. But the version in Ubuntu 9.10 is not sufficient for 3D acceleration on recent cards.
[21:21] <ardnew> gdiz: otherwise, just control the ubuntu machine via ssh like I suggested
[21:21] <wgrant> newser: do-release-upgrade
[21:21] <lgc> wgrant, the spying part is the one missing, for sure! Well, thanks a lot. I'm happy now.
[21:22] <suigeneris> newser sudo release-upgrade
[21:22] <suigeneris> newser sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:22] <noelito> I am trying to get gtkpod to add music files from a windows xp share mounted using fstab and a type of cifs. Every time I try to add the music, gtkpod grays out and I have to kill it. If I add music from the main drive it works just fine. How can I get this setup to work?
[21:22] <CrazyC> Steve i did and owned the graphics, now its fine
[21:22] <jmyers2> wgrant: ahh, so I just use the System>Admin>Hardware Drivers and just deal with the lack of acceleration till we're blessed with an update?
[21:23] <gdiz> ardnew, what exactly does synergy do?
[21:23] <kadoban> how do i find out where a certain package puts certain files?  for example, i have installed the qt4-demos package, but how can i ever find the demos?
[21:23] <newser> wgrant, suigeneris
[21:23] <guntbert> TECNOPATA: ?
[21:23] <newser> wgrant, suigeneris, thanks
[21:23] <steve380> CrazyC:  you talking to me
[21:23] <lllll> hi, im trying to figure out why www.partypoker.com/anywhere isn't loading on my firefox in ubuntu ..i have the netbook remix ..i downloaded the sun java  6 runtime and a webbrowser addon....
[21:23] <wgrant> jmyers2: Pretty much (about four months away).
[21:23] <Oilut> is there a command to share a folder as root?? i cant do it via the file browser
[21:23] <jmyers2> wgrant: I don't do any gaming anyway.  I'm just anal about wanting the screen effects working, cuz I like pretties. :)
[21:23] <ardnew> gdiz: you can use your client workstation's mouse and keyboard on the remote ubuntu machine like it was just a separate display with its own operating system
[21:23] <CrazyC> sorry Downed the graphics
[21:23] <ardnew> gdiz: you can drag your mouse over the ubuntu display and control it from your local computer
[21:23] <CrazyC> Yeah Steve
[21:24] <gdiz> ardnew...aah...that should work
[21:24] <guntbert> !tab | CrazyC
[21:24] <gdiz> I'll play around with it.
[21:24] <steve380> CrazyC: the audio will cut out mid steam and the video will quickly jump to the end of what I am watching
[21:24] <newser> Is there anyone familiarized with working with GPS in ubuntu that could give me details and tips on this???
[21:24] <CrazyC> I took out unused graphics and it was fine
[21:24] <steve380> has to be the codecs
[21:24] <lllll> hi, im trying to figure out why www.partypoker.com/anywhere isn't loading on my firefox in ubuntu ..i have the netbook remix ..i downloaded the sun java  6 runtime and a webbrowser addon....
[21:25] <Oilut> is there a command to share a folder as root?? i cant do it via the file browser
[21:25] <KKKKKKKKKKKKKk> hey guys - i booted from the live cd; how can i check my harddrive (was running XP) for viruses?
[21:25] <MrJayBiggie> i need to figure all of ubuntu out lol
[21:25] <steve380> it did not do it in the previous versoin
[21:25] <gdiz> ardnew, thanks a lot
[21:25] <ardnew> np
[21:25] <suigeneris> Oilut netshare user only=false put this in smb.conf and restart it
[21:25] <newser> !gps
[21:25] <bodi> waiting patiently
[21:25] <MrJayBiggie> any one know of a photo shop based program?
[21:26] <suigeneris> fixer_33 don't pm me
[21:26] <ardnew> !synergy
[21:26] <Oilut> netshare user only=false ? ?
[21:26] <CrazyC> try a dif video player
[21:26] <IdleOne> MrJayBiggie: try Gimp
[21:26] <Oilut> just this?
[21:26] <suigeneris> !gimp
[21:26] <newser> !Roadnav
[21:26] <suigeneris> Oilut yes
[21:26] <steve380> CrazyC: yeah....I could do that
[21:27] <Oilut> suigeneris: there are more than one file named like that
[21:27] <CrazyC> I tried three dif players and finally found that works for mine
[21:27] <Oilut> under samba
[21:27] <MrJayBiggie> alrighty then ty
[21:27] <steve380> I could try mplayer
[21:27] <Oilut> usr/share/samba or etc/samba ? ?
[21:27] <suigeneris> Oilut /etc/samba
[21:27] <CrazyC> or try XBMC Media Center
[21:28] <steve380> XBMC Media Player???cool
[21:28] <steve380> will do
[21:28] <CrazyC> cool, hope its kosher for ya
[21:28] <Andyka1a> Anyone know how to: Copy my mysql forum db from ubunto lamp server to a pen drive from cmd as i have lost giu and unableto get x server working?
[21:29] <rob_p> Hilikus: "sed -n '8,12p' < somefile.txt" will print lines 8 through 12 of somefile.txt.  Is that what you are looking for?
[21:29] <Hilikus> rob_p: yes, thanks
[21:29] <rob_p> Hilikus: welcome
[21:30] <olokos> h3llo!
[21:30] <steve380> CrazyC: is it listed in the synaptic manager??
[21:30] <CrazyC> Steve goold luck, i know its kinda new and frustrating but its cool as hell when it all pans out
[21:30] <olokos> uumm
[21:30] <Oilut> how do i open a file .conf via console?
[21:30] <Kingsy101> hey ppl, I have just upgraded my PC to 9.10 however now for some reason the entire screen is slightly offset to the right, so there is a 1cm black bar down the left hand side of the screen. Does this mean the drivers arnt installed or something?
[21:30] <DaZ> Oilut: nano, vim, emacs?
[21:30] <MrJayBiggie> i'll try gimp
[21:30] <MrJayBiggie> Gimp comes on ubuntu origianally right?
[21:30] <Kingsy101> cos as far as I know its just using onboard graphics
[21:30] <Pavel> can anyone help me with java?  In 9.04, do I need to install it and something else for it to work with firefox?
[21:30] <suigeneris> Oilut vim
[21:30] <wgrant> MrJayBiggie: In Ubuntu 9.10 and earlier, yes.
[21:30] <Kingsy101> and I kinda assumed they are already installed and supported...
[21:31] <Kingsy101> any ideas?
[21:31] <timmerz> bvhjgf
[21:31] <sebsebseb> MrJayBiggie: Gimp is pre installed in Ubuntu for now, but i won't be in the default install for 10.04
[21:31] <olokos> how 2 play team fortress 2 on 9.10 ?
[21:31] <CrazyC> Click on Systems and the nClick on Admin
[21:31] <Oilut> suigeneris: sudo vim smb.conf did not work, is it right?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> MrJayBiggie: won't be in default for 10.04
[21:31] <sekyourbox> Why does wireless connections on 904 fail when they work fine on windows 7???
[21:31] <DaZ> Oilut: it is
[21:31] <suigeneris> Oilut sudo apt-get install vim
[21:31] <CrazyC> Then you should see it on the list
[21:31] <Oilut> suigeneris:  haha
[21:32] <DaZ> Oilut: but i don't think you're capable of quitting vim
[21:32] <CrazyC> Did you get that Steve?
[21:32] <olokos> how 2 play team fortress 2 on 9.10 ?
[21:32] <steve380> CrazyC: cool
[21:32] <DaZ> so use nano [;
[21:32] <rob_p> Hilikus: You could use awk as well.  Just replace with, "awk 'NR==8,NR==12'" and it should yield the same result.
[21:32] <guntbert> Oilut: did you change into the correct directory?
[21:32] <r> whats a good command line network tool
[21:32] <olokos> how 2 play team fortress 2 on 9.10 ?
[21:32] <Pavel> can anyone help me get java working in firefox?
[21:32] <Oilut> why do i need vim? i just cant save the file when i open it with a double click.... it is installing thou
[21:32] <manueljordison> hello everyone!! does anyone know how to change the login screen from ubuntu 9.10. I used to have my own themes but now i cannot customize anything...
[21:32] <sekyourbox> r, what kind of question is that? netcat
[21:32] <Kingsy101> anyone have an idea about my issue?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> manueljordison: you can't by default
[21:32] <CrazyC> Is 9.10 more stable now???
[21:33] <olokos> how 2 play team fortress 2 on 9.10 ?!?
[21:33] <Tiders> What is the thing you download to install KDE to Ubuntu?
[21:33] <sebsebseb> CrazyC: probably about the same as release or the same as
[21:33] <Flannel> Tiders: install kubuntu-desktop
[21:33] <guntbert> !repeat | olokos
[21:33] <sekyourbox> olokos, check out whine HQ
[21:33] <wgrant> !wine | olokos
[21:33] <suigeneris> Tiders KDE
[21:33] <DaZ> manueljordison: newest gnome doesn't have gdm manager
[21:33] <apn> CrazyC: yes, but not stable yet (if it will ever be)
[21:33] <CrazyC> I cant afford to install it and freeze....
[21:34] <wgrant> apn: Pardon?
[21:34] <CrazyC> ok Ill wait....lol
[21:34] <manueljordison> Daz: hmmm so that means the feature is no longer available?
[21:34] <olokos> i try to open tf2 but when i open steam it freeze :/
[21:34] <sebsebseb> manueljordison: there's a program that I haven't tried, that is meant to be able to do it.  You can also install the old GDM and get it set up some how in Ubuntu,  as well as install other log in screens such as KDM the KDE one which is in the repo.  Or  Slim which isn't in the repo.
[21:34] <Oilut> cool... how do i save now? haha
[21:34] <suigeneris> Oilut :wq
[21:34] <CrazyC> Im not in a hurry for 10, Ill wait
[21:34] <Oilut> suigeneris:  sorry, i dont get it.... what is :wq?
[21:34] <wgrant> manueljordison: It's not yet implemented for this new, rewritten version of gdm. It should be back in the next release or two.
[21:35] <suigeneris> Oilut hit esc, type wq, enter,
[21:35] <Demontager> how can i sort text file and remove symbols less then 8 and 20 &
[21:35] <Demontager> ?
[21:35] <olokos> i try to open tf2 but when i open steam it freeze :/
[21:35] <apn> suigeneris: type : then wq :-)
[21:35] <whileimhere> Hi. I am using ubuntu 9.10 with the gnome desktop. The audio does work. I do not have a volume control in my panel nor can I add one. Anyone know what I am missing/
[21:35] <manueljordison> wgrant: thank you so much for the kind answer.i should wait then
[21:36] <krzd> hi
[21:36] <Oilut> damnnn it
[21:36] <Kingsy101> does anyone have an idea about my problem?
[21:36] <sebsebseb> wgrant: probably would have been better really if Ubuntu had stayed with the old one, untill the new could be themed
[21:36] <suigeneris> !language | Oilut
[21:36] <Oilut> how do i open a file with `text editor` with SU power?
[21:36] <Demontager> that one I used on backtrack4, but I can't find pw-inspector source bt~#cat passwordlist.txt |1pw-inspector -m 8 -M 20 > wpaList.txt
[21:36] <suigeneris> Oilut sudo editor
[21:36] <MrJayBiggie> any reason to why my Gimp wont work?
[21:37] <guntbert> Oilut: sudo vi ...
[21:37] <DaZ> manueljordison: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Configure
[21:37] <krzd> is it possible to install ubuntu out of an running installation? the problem is, that i haven't got a cd rom and only a damaged usb stick
[21:37] <suigeneris> Oilut whatever your editor is
[21:37] <r> I meant something graphical in the terminal
[21:37] <Exetubin> hello
[21:37] <Exetubin> i have the same exact issue posted here: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8517445
[21:37] <Oilut> suigeneris: i use ubuntu, when i left-click on the file it sais `open sith `text editor``
[21:37] <CrazyC> So how do i boost my memory on Ub
[21:37] <sebsebseb> wgrant: without needing to use another program or whatever
[21:37] <guntbert> !details | Exetubin
[21:37] <Oilut> suigeneris: i use ubuntu, when i left-click on the file it sais `open with `text editor``
[21:37] <Exetubin> any idea how I can get it resolved
[21:38] <frojnd> !nvidia
[21:38] <suigeneris> MrJayBiggie what was your problem again?
[21:38] <manueljordison> Daz: thank u
[21:38] <CrazyC> How do i boost my memory on UB without adding Hardware
[21:38] <MrJayBiggie> i cant get gimp to work
[21:38] <MrJayBiggie> i have hardy 8.04 ubuntu
[21:38] <Exetubin> guntbert.... i'm running xubuntu 9.10 (karmic) on my PS3 and I'm using a logitech diNovo edge keyboard.... the keyboard works fine, but, the touchpad does not work... note that the dinovo edge keyboard is a keyboard / touchpad (mouse) combo device
[21:39] <MrJayBiggie> it wont load up
[21:39] <suigeneris> MrJayBiggie what error do you get?
[21:39] <frojnd> I have an old nvidia: GeForce FX 5500 and ubuntu-server 8.04 How can I install drivers for this card?
[21:39] <MrJayBiggie> it doesnt gve an error it just wont load up
[21:39] <DaZ> frojnd: using apt-get.
[21:39] <krzd> frojnd: how about sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[21:39] <suigeneris> MrJayBiggie debug it
[21:40] <DaZ> krzd: 5x series isn't supported in 185.
[21:40] <MrJayBiggie> how?
[21:40] <suigeneris> !gdb | MrJayBiggie
[21:40] <krzd> DaZ: in this case nvidia-glx-96 or something
[21:40] <guntbert> Exetubin: sorry, I cannot help with that issue - but this way a lot more people will see your question
[21:40] <DaZ> krzd: 173.
[21:41] <frojnd> krzd: I don't have nvidia-glx-185 package
[21:41] <DaZ> if you don't know then why are you answering [;
[21:41] <Exetubin> guntbert... thanks.... the same exact issue is posted here: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8517445.... if anyone wishes to read on more details
[21:41] <suigeneris> MrJayBiggie google
[21:41] <frojnd> DaZ: where is supported then?
[21:41] <CrazyC> Does anybody know how to boost my memory on UB without adding hardware
[21:41] <DaZ> frojnd: 173
[21:41] <Oilut> !language
[21:41] <frojnd> DaZ: this package isn't in ubuntu 8.04
[21:41] <wowstargate> lol
[21:41] <wgrant> sebsebseb: Perhaps, but the vast majority of users don't customise the gdm theme, and there were several benefits.
[21:41] <frojnd> DaZ: so why did u suggested if you don't know...
[21:42] <frojnd> DaZ: a joke
[21:42] <Oilut> lets try it differently. how do i active SU?
[21:42] <lllll> hi, im trying to figure out really desperately why partypoker.com/anywhere isn't loading.  i have downloaded java 6 runtime and a browser addon for the ubuntu netbook remix...still no luck :( any help appreciated
[21:42] <sebsebseb> wgrant: Seems quite a lot of people want to change the theme.  Benefits such as?
[21:42] <CrazyC> My Cousin asks How he can get back on to Xchat?
[21:42] <DaZ> frojnd: i don't use ubuntu, the drivers are for linux, not ubuntu specific.
[21:42] <suigeneris> Oilut are you in admin group?
[21:42] <wgrant> sebsebseb: You're only going to be seeing the people who want to change the theme complaining.
[21:42] <MrJayBiggie> how do i debug?
[21:42] <krzd> frojnd: so try 96 or if that's not existend 71
[21:42] <wgrant> sebsebseb: for every one of them, there could be hundreds of thousands of users who don't.
[21:43] <suigeneris> MrJayBiggie google for gdb documentation
[21:43] <guntbert> !sudo | Oilut
[21:43] <DaZ> frojnd: and ignore krzd [;
[21:43] <frojnd> anyone know how to install nvidida drivers for fx 5500 in ubuntu 8.04
[21:43] <Oilut> suigeneris: yes
[21:43] <CrazyC> Waits Patiently
[21:43] <Exetubin> oh... by the way... can anyone coach me on how I can add myself in the AUDIO group
[21:43] <wgrant> sebsebseb: Power management, better accessibility (I believe), better fast user switching for use in the new panel applets, faster startup, and probably other stuff.
[21:43] <suigeneris> look at what ubottu said to you
[21:44] <Oilut> ubottu: i am trying to edit a file as root. but i cant open the text editor outside the console... thats why i need su...
[21:44] <sebsebseb> wgrant: well yeah I guess, it's not been that often when someone has asked how to change it, in here, for example,  when I have seen it
[21:44] <suigeneris> Oilut that means you
[21:44] <suigeneris> !sudo | Oilut
[21:44] <krzd> DaZ: could you may be help me, to install ubuntu out of an running ubuntu system?
[21:44] <guntbert> Oilut: no, you need sudo, not su !!!
[21:44] <IdleOne> Oilut: gksudo gedit filename
[21:44] <frojnd> DaZ: I can manually install drivers...
[21:45] <frojnd> DaZ: but how?
[21:45] <Oilut> IdleOne: cool i will try
[21:45] <jsoft> Hey um, I installed 7.10, and then upgraded to 8.04, but now I cant seem to upgrade to 9. Any ideas?
[21:45] <Oilut> IdleOne: GREAT!
[21:45] <krzd> frojnd: you could download the installer from www.nvidia.com
[21:46] <ejdrian> witam
[21:46] <sebsebseb> jsoft: you would have to upgrade through 8.10 and 9.04 first
[21:46] <sebsebseb> jsoft: also 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade might go wrong
[21:46] <Andyka1a> Anyone know how to: Copy my mysql forum db from ubunto lamp server to a pen drive from cmd as i have lost giu and unableto get x server working?
[21:46] <jsoft> sebsebseb: how do I do that?
[21:46] <sebsebseb> jsoft: plus no Ext4 or Grub 2 on upgrade, for those with Ext3
[21:46] <Oilut> i think i need to restart. one minut
[21:47] <jsoft> sebsebseb: ther update manager thing says there are no updates available.
[21:47] <Demontager> how can I stop gdm in Ubintu? Before I use /etc/init.d/gdm stop, but now not work anymore
[21:47] <sebsebseb> jsoft: why did you start with 7.10 and this is rather recently?
[21:47] <jsoft> sebsebseb: is the only cd I had availabl.
[21:47] <wgrant> jsoft: If you wait four months, you'll be able to upgrade directly to Ubuntu 10.04.
[21:47] <jsoft> available, even.
[21:47] <Exetubin> can anyone coach me on how I can add my username in the AUDIO group
[21:47] <suigeneris> Andyka1a use mysqldump
[21:47] <doslash> how do i copy my windows fonts to linux ?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> jsoft: ok got any other blanks CD's?  if so I suggest downloading the ISO for 9.10, doing a check to make sure it's a good download, and burning contents to CD, and then doing a clean install using that
[21:47] <DJones> !fonts | doslash
[21:47] <riverbird> !feedingthetrolls
[21:47] <suigeneris> doslash copy them to ~/.fonts
[21:48] <DaZ_> meh
[21:48] <DaZ_> Exetubin: gpasswd -a `whoami` audio
[21:48] <jsoft> sebsebseb: no my blanks are elsewhere.. otherwise I would have done that to start with.
[21:48] <Andyka1a> suigeneris how do i use that from cmd?
[21:48] <sebsebseb> jsoft: so your on 8.04?
[21:48] <Exetubin> thanks, Daz... lemme try
[21:48] <jsoft> sebsebseb: yes
[21:49] <sebsebseb> jsoft: actsualley that's quite a good release to stay on for now
[21:49] <DaZ> !tab | Exetubin
[21:49] <suigeneris> Andyka1a mysqldump -uuser -ppass database > file.txt
[21:49] <sebsebseb> jsoft: I guess it's only showing LTS upgrades
[21:49] <Exetubin> ubottu, wow
[21:49] <CrazyC> DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW BOOST MEMORY ON ub WITHOUT ADDING HARDWARE???
[21:49] <sebsebseb> jsoft: hence 8.10 not showing
[21:49] <Exetubin> it works!
[21:49] <sebsebseb> !caps | CrazyC
[21:49] <Exetubin> thanks for the tip, ubottu
[21:49] <jsoft> sebsebseb: um, ok, well ive still a problem. It is not playing nice with my lcd/nvidia card.
[21:49] <jsoft> Im running in super low res land...
[21:49] <CrazyC> Sorry, just wanted to be noticed...lol
[21:50] <sebsebseb> jsoft: you can upgrade directly to 10.04 from 8.04, when that comes out at the end of April.  However no Ext4 on upgrade, and I guess you won't get Grub 2 either
[21:50] <CrazyC> two questons
[21:50] <jsoft> I dont mind about ext4 or grub2.
[21:50] <Andyka1a> Thanks suigeneris
[21:50] <sebsebseb> jsoft: well havig / in Ext4 can be useful for speed
[21:51] <suigeneris> Andyka1a np
[21:51] <CrazyC> Could I leave an Email address and you could let me nkow?
[21:51] <CrazyC> know?
[21:51] <jsoft> *shrug* Surely cant be the bigger of a deal
[21:51] <sebsebseb> jsoft:  As for Grub legacy that will be good still for now
[21:51] <sebsebseb> jsoft: as for your issue with 8.04,  I am not sure about that
[21:52] <CrazyC> I need to read the manual and help you guys out
[21:52] <LetsGo67> How do I make my SSH server accessible from the Internet?
[21:52] <jsoft> Right, I just mv'ed xorg.conf, it had a setting for low res in there. Will restart X and see what happens.
[21:53] <suigeneris> LetsGo67 forward port 22 if you are behind a router
[21:53] <DaZ> LetsGo67: /etc/hosts.allow
[21:53] <LetsGo67> suigeneris: I forwarded the right port, but still...
[21:53] <suigeneris> or that
[21:53] <DaZ> or both [;
[21:53] <LetsGo67> suigeneris: I get lots of timeout errors.  Local and Internet.
[21:54] <Oilut> 'net usershare' returned error 255: [2009/12/19 19:53:19, 0] param/loadparm.c:map_parameter(2799)   Unknown parameter encountered: "netshare user only" [2009/12/19 19:53:19, 0] param/loadparm.c:lp_do_parameter(3540)
[21:54] <Oilut> i added netshsare user only=false
[21:54] <saptech> hello
[21:55] <CrazyC> hello
[21:55] <DeepTime> hello
[21:55] <fredx_> hi
[21:55] <suigeneris> Oilut I am sorry this should be the line usershare owner only = false
[21:55] <suigeneris> !hi | saptech
[21:55] <suzanne> I need help with direct rendering!  I keep getting this: direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)
[21:55] <Salva-g> hello
[21:55] <suzanne> :(
[21:55] <saptech> ok, thanks
[21:55] <CrazyC> oh Suzanne, whats wrong?
[21:56] <suzanne> Well, I followed the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[21:56] <suzanne> I have a mobility 9600, and I can't get the direct3d working
[21:56] <saptech> does anyone use any Brother printer, I have an AIO and have it working except it print out blank pages.
[21:56] <fredx_> guys i have a problem with sb x-fi audio soundcard (xubuntu9.10) anybody can help me?
[21:56] <newser> !ubuntu
[21:57] <Oilut> suigeneris: haha its ok
[21:57] <CrazyC> Try to lower your Graphics
[21:57] <aoeuhtns> anybody know how to mute the drum-beat in GDM (Ubuntu 9.10), it's not in System -> Login Window anymore...
[21:57] <aoeuhtns> where did the rest of that dialog go anyway?  There's only 2 or so options now
[21:57] <Oilut> suigeneris: 'net usershare' returned error 255: [2009/12/19 19:57:34, 0] param/loadparm.c:map_parameter(2799)   Unknown parameter encountered: "netshare owner only" [2009/12/19 19:57:34, 0] param/loadparm.c:lp_do_parameter(3540)
[21:57] <jsoft> :)
[21:57] <DaZ> aoeuhtns: you can't, haha!
[21:57] <jsoft> Screen working good now, yay.
[21:57] <sephiap> aoeuhtns: the login sound?
[21:57] <suzanne> CrazyC: I'll give that a try
[21:58] <suigeneris> aoeuhtns System > Preferences > Sound
[21:58] <Oilut> i think it does not recognize after the equal sign`=`
[21:58] <CrazyC> try the most unused ones first
[21:58] <aoeuhtns> no, the GDM sound at the login screen (before you log in)
[21:58] <radosaw> hi
[21:58] <arand> aoeuhtns: you'll have to disable the whole sound theme for that afaik, in sound properties, choose none instead of ubuntu (or default) sound theme.
[21:58] <CrazyC> Does anybody know something about Memory and UB here
[21:58] <suzanne> CrazyC: I just reduced the resolution down to 800x600, the effects are all off
[21:59] <aoeuhtns> arand, sound preferences is a per-user setting so I don't think that applies to the system log in screen
[21:59] <aoeuhtns> anyway, I already have that set to "no sound theme"
[21:59] <CrazyC> what was your standard
[21:59] <psilva> Lucid Lynx's very stable for an alpha operating system!
[21:59] <psilva> I'm surprised.
[21:59] <DaZ> aoeuhtns: you need to wait few years as they finish gdm manager
[21:59] <IdleOne> !lucid | psilva
[22:00] <ikus060> Hello, I don't find flahs very stable using an 64bits opperating system. Is any one else experiencing something similar ?? e.g.: clicking on button doesn't work, need to reinstall it often
[22:00] <suigeneris> Oilut usershare owner only = false, not the one you have right now
[22:00] <Foxerious> Ubottu is correct.
[22:00] <aoeuhtns> DaZ, I don't understand, the option was there, why did they have to go and break it?!
[22:00] <psilva> Just saying, not discussing anything.
[22:00] <apn> ikus060: yes
[22:00] <Foxerious> Flash isn't stable in Ubuntu... Ever...
[22:00] <Oilut> suigeneris: my file is like: #[22:00] <DaZ> aoeuhtns: because it was old and they want it new.
[22:00] <aoeuhtns> every new ubuntu release seems to break something that worked fine before...
[22:01] <Oilut> suigeneris:  i changed for owner....
[22:01] <CrazyC> Suzanne what was your standard
[22:01] <ikus060> apn: So there nothing to do ??
[22:01] <suzanne> CrazyC: 1280x800
[22:01] <Berzerker> how do I add a link to a file so that I can run it in any folder without the filepath or ./
[22:01] <Foxerious> It's really hard to understand anyone here...
[22:01] <aoeuhtns> also, how do you log out without using the mouse
[22:01] <CrazyC> Suzanne and it isnt fine with that?
[22:02] <CrazyC> Suzanne What do you want to change?
[22:02] <suzanne> CrazyC: I don't think the resolution is the problem.
[22:02] <DaZ> Berzerker: you have to add the directory to $PATH
[22:02] <arand> ikus060: using the native flash64 downloadable from  adobe labs is normally better.
[22:02] <Berzerker> DaZ, where is that
[22:02] <suzanne> CrazyC: The entire system seems to refuse to use the graphics processor to do any work.
[22:02] <ikus060> arand: oki, I will try this.  I click on Bacula administration tool, it thinks for a second, then nothing. What gives, how can I run it from the command line?
[22:03] <CrazyC> What Linux are you using/
[22:03] <arand> !flash64 > ikus060
[22:03] <suzanne> CrazyC: Since ATI abandoned its customers to "legacy" support, the prop. driver doesn't work, and the communities solution doesn't appear to be working on my system at all.
[22:03] <sebsebseb> suzanne: ah ha
[22:04] <sebsebseb> suzanne: ok uhmm what version of Ubuntu are you on?  9.10?
[22:04] <seme> how is it possible that initctl list wouldn't have postgres in it even though there are startup scripts in /etc/rc* and /etc/init.d/
[22:04] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Yeah
[22:04] <jsoft> Trying to install flash. Libpango is not satisfied. 8.04. Any ideas?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> suzanne: and your ATI card is old yeah?
[22:04] <PauloFreitas> Hey there... I went to Live CD to resize my partitions and, after that, Grub didn't load anymore. It says: "Error: unknown filesystem". Everything was normal before and I have no problem with GParted.
[22:04] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Yeah, it's a 9600 radeon mobility
[22:04] <DaZ> Berzerker: PATH=$PATH+"directory"
[22:04] <sebsebseb> suzanne: ok there was someone here lastnight or whatever, with a similar issue
[22:04] <DaZ> and maybe use export
[22:05] <Berzerker> DaZ, I got it, thanks, export PATH=$PATH:/path
[22:05] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Did they find a solution?
[22:05] <Oilut> suigeneris: how can i show you my smb.conf file?
[22:05] <Berzerker> in .bashrc
[22:05] <PauloFreitas> s/I have/I had
[22:05] <suigeneris> !pastebin | Oilut
[22:05] <sebsebseb> suzanne: well not exactly, but it sounded like their card would work in 8.04
[22:06] <CrazyC> Suzanne I agree with him
[22:06] <sebsebseb> suzanne: you might be thinking 8.04, but that's old,  well yeah it is, but it's a good release, and long term support, it has over a year of support left, unlike 9.04 for example
[22:06] <suzanne> CrazyC: So the solution is reversion?
[22:06] <DaZ> sebsebseb: but it's old
[22:06] <AakashPatel> Is it just me, or does pidgin-facebook chat not work?
[22:06] <fear> Hey can anyone help me with a printer problem?
[22:07] <suigeneris> !ask | fear
[22:07] <CrazyC> Its maybe a driver problem
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> AakashPatel: The version in the repos with Karmic indeed does not.  Use the upstream version.
[22:07] <sebsebseb> suzanne:  DaZ  with Ubuntu it's not about what is the latest it's about what is still supported.  Also with graphics card it's also to do with the version of xorg, not just a driver.
[22:07] <AakashPatel> tonyyarusso: "upstream" verison?
[22:07] <arand> aoeuhtns: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/437429 for workaround disabling login sound.
[22:07] <sebsebseb> suzanne: plus if you want later stuff on 8.04, you can install later stuff yourself,  later versions of Firefox etc.
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> AakashPatel: http://pidgin-facebookchat.googlecode.com/files/pidgin-facebookchat-1.64.deb
[22:07] <Oilut> suigeneris: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6797020
[22:07] <DaZ> sebsebseb: i don't think older xorg would break newer software right now
[22:08] <AakashPatel> Ah
[22:08] <danny> Just a quick question: if I purge Firefox, will it remove my profile?
[22:08] <wgrant> danny: No.
[22:08] <AakashPatel> What version did it break at?
[22:08] <AakashPatel> did/does*
[22:08] <sebsebseb> suzanne: ATI do not support Desktop Linux properly,  Nivida for example has very good support
[22:08] <DaZ> so using a year and a half old system just because of xorg is wrong.
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> AakashPatel: You may also need to do some funny business to get it recognized - let me know if it works after installing that package and restarting empathy.
[22:08] <CosmicHippo> AakashPatel: It works but it can still be a bit buggy. But seeing as how Facebook chat barely works ON facebook sometimes, it's as good as can be expected
[22:09] <tonyyarusso> (unless you're actually using pidgin)
[22:09] <sebsebseb> DaZ: doesn't matter if it's that old,  it's still suported, that's the point, and it's still a good release
[22:09] <fear> alright i am running the ubuntu boot disk "try without changes" feature on my windows 2000 pc.  I am going around trying to see if it is what I want to do, i think it is, but I went to set up a printer and print a test page but when it printed test page it said it printed succesfully but nothing came out of printer like it never got to it.  Is it because I am just running the trial and it is not fully installed yet
[22:09] <wgrant> sebsebseb: Yet they don't support RandR 1.2...
[22:09] <AakashPatel> tonyyarusso: well see, i'm using pidgin on the n900 with maemo
[22:09] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Well, were there a way to rip the ATI off the main board and replace it, that would be nice.
[22:09] <AakashPatel> so..i guess i'll need to recomile the new version
[22:09] <AakashPatel> of the chat plugin
[22:09] <tonyyarusso> AakashPatel: no you don't - they have that too :)
[22:09] <suigeneris> Oilut read mu fingers please, usershare owner only = false, not netshare
[22:09] <tonyyarusso> AakashPatel: http://pidgin-facebookchat.googlecode.com/files/libfacebookarm-1.64.so
[22:09] <AakashPatel> tonyyarusso: idk who the heck the dev is for it lol
[22:10] <tonyyarusso> AakashPatel: (more info on http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/ )
[22:10] <sebsebseb> DaZ: in fact overall it's my second favourite release since 8.04, after 8.10.
[22:10] <strixv> okay so, how do I locate the mounted path of sftp://www.server.com/myfiles (mounted by gnome) - I'm using gvim but it doesn't have the integrated gnome file dialogs
[22:10] <wgrant> strixv: Look in ~/.gvfs
[22:10] <fbdystang> Hi, I just downloaded bacula in 9.10. I click on Bacula administration tool, it thinks for a second, then nothing. What gives, how can I run it from the command line?
[22:10] <AakashPatel> I wonder if its possible to include facebook chat into the defualt chat program in maemo
[22:10] <AakashPatel> hmmm
[22:10] <strixv> wgrant, thanks
[22:10] <Oilut> suigeneris: my bad!
[22:10] <cptblood> trying to do a livedvd with remastersys, but im getting that my output file exceeds the iso9660 size limit, is there some workaround, except for removing something from my system?
[22:11] <fear> alright i am running the ubuntu boot disk "try without changes" feature on my windows 2000 pc.  I am going around trying to see if it is what I want to do, i think it is, but I went to set up a printer and print a test page but when it printed test page it said it printed succesfully but nothing came out of printer like it never got to it.  Is it because I am just running the trial and it is not fully installed yet
[22:11] <PauloFreitas> Hey there... I went to Live CD to resize my partitions and, after that, Grub didn't load anymore. It says: "Error: unknown filesystem". Everything was normal before and I had no problem with GParted.
[22:11] <Oilut> suigeneris: great! worked
[22:11] <suigeneris> !pm | fear
[22:11] <suigeneris> Oilut glad it did
[22:11] <sylwester> hell
[22:11] <sebsebseb> suzanne: Newer is not always better,  and I guess really you just want a version of Ubuntu that is still supported and works well on your computer?
[22:11] <sylwester> hello
[22:11] <DaZ> sebsebseb: downgrading xorg does not kill [;
[22:11] <fear> Yea fear here
[22:12] <suzanne> sebsebseb: If !AND, then yes.
[22:12] <PacketCollision> I'm getting an error trying to add a new KVM vm using Virt-manager, saying ISO doesn't exist when it does.  Any ideas?  Error is: ValueError: Size must be specified for non existent volume path '/storage/cd-images/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso'
[22:12] <DaZ> sebsebseb: in open source newer is almost always better
[22:12] <sebsebseb> suzanne: if what?
[22:12] <sylwester> i have a problem with youtube, i see only blck screen and  i don't see button play
[22:12] <fear> !| suigeneris
[22:12] <suzanne> sebsebseb: I guess if I have to choose between more features and better functionality, I'll go with the latter.  It'd be nice as a buy one get one, though.
[22:12] <sebsebseb> DaZ: and a lot of the time in open source, the newer stuff isn't really needed yet by lots of people.
[22:13] <rix_> Hi, Anybody can help me about OpenGL support in virtual box ??
[22:13] <fbdystang> sylwester: try newest flash
[22:13] <strixv> wgrant, okay here's another one: I can see it in .gvfs but gvim's dialog won't let me go into hidden directories. Should I symlink a normal directory to .gvfs to get around that?
[22:13] <fear> Hello I have got a question
[22:13] <fear> alright i am running the ubuntu boot disk "try without changes" feature on my windows 2000 pc.  I am going around trying to see if it is what I want to do, i think it is, but I went to set up a printer and print a test page but when it printed test page it said it printed succesfully but nothing came out of printer like it never got to it.  Is it because I am just running the trial and it is not fully installed yet
[22:13] <CrazyC> Sylwester most likely it isnt loading right
[22:13] <sebsebseb> suzanne: what was the second bit?
[22:13] <wgrant> strixv: Press Ctrl+H to show hidden files and directories.
[22:13] <DaZ> sebsebseb: and dvd recorders are for pirates. it's apple people rhetoric.
[22:13] <sylwester> okey i try install new flash thanks
[22:13] <strixv> wgrant, normally, but gvim uses the old school x file dialog
[22:13] <sebsebseb> DaZ: uhmm?
[22:13] <strixv> wgrant, so no ctrl+h
[22:14] <wgrant> strixv: Ah, I use the one with proper GNOME support.
[22:14] <DaZ> sebsebseb: for most of them it is needed, and installing old os just because it ships older xorg isn't worth it
[22:14] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Oh, I was just saying that your assertion was correct: I want a functional system.  I don't want to downgrade though.  I wish it weren't necessary.
[22:14] <DaZ> as downgrading is possible.
[22:14] <PacketCollision> fear: what kind of printer is it?
[22:14] <LetsGo67> suigeneris: I get lots of timeout errors.  Local and Internet.
[22:14] <sebsebseb> suzanne: I can rip apart the releases since 8.04 and say what is good and bad about them.  You woudn't really be missing out on much, by using 8.04 at this time.
[22:14] <strixv> wgrant, then I should change to that one!
[22:14] <wgrant> DaZ: Suggesting a downgrade of the X.org stack is pretty silly.
[22:14] <suigeneris> LetsGo67 no idea, sorry
[22:14] <strixv> wgrant, which is it?
[22:14] <fear> It is an epson printer
[22:14] <DaZ> wgrant: why? [;
[22:15] <LetsGo67> syugeneris: that's okay.  I'll be in ##linux
[22:15] <danny> Someone please give me the command to purge Firefox, I'm having trouble with it.
[22:15] <PacketCollision> !pm | fear
[22:15] <wgrant> strixv: Ah, wait, i was wrong. I just don't use the menus enough, I guess.
[22:15] <PacketCollision> fear: What model?
[22:15] <fear> C 60
[22:15] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Well, technically no.  And I'm a technical person.  I'm trying to repair this laptop for the holidays, though.
[22:15] <wgrant> DaZ: Because it's complex and incredibly fragile.
[22:15] <wgrant> DaZ: Downgrading system components like that is not to be done lightly.
[22:16] <fear> Epson Stylus C60
[22:16] <sebsebseb> suzanne: it's not like Windows where you really are doing a proper down grade
[22:16] <strixv> wgrant, yeah normally I don't run into this problem, but I've got a nice sftp connection to the place I'm editing, and I've opened a local file, and I want to save that local file on the remote machine. I could just copy it with gnome but it seems silly that I can't just save it with vim
[22:16] <suzanne> sebsebseb: And when you get right down to it, I could probably get away with switching to a cli debian install that would be faster, more secure, and the like.  9.10 has all the pretty features, though.
[22:16] <wgrant> strixv: :w ~/.gvfs/blah/blah/blah
[22:16] <sebsebseb> suzanne: With Ubuntu it's not about what is the latest version, it's about what is still supported.
[22:16] <suigeneris> danny sudo apt-get purge firefox
[22:16] <rix_> My ATI Graphic card has problems about OpenGL inside Virtualbox, opengl programs crash when i run them, anybody has a idea ?
[22:16] <wgrant> danny: What do you hope to achieve by purging it?
[22:17] <wgrant> danny: I suspect you're not doing what you think you are.
[22:17] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Is anyone working on this problem, though?
[22:17] <suigeneris> rix_ maybe #vbox does have an idea
[22:17] <strixv> wgrant, yeah I guess I'll do it that way -thx!
[22:17] <sebsebseb> suzanne: not that much can be done about the ATI issues
[22:17] <danny> suigeneris ahh, I forgot the sudo apt-get part
[22:17] <sebsebseb> suzanne: unless ATI them selves make proper drivers and that
[22:17] <PacketCollision> fear: seems it should be supported by gutenprint driver, which afaik is included in live CD
[22:17] <CrazyC> Well Im heading out, Peace
[22:17] <suzanne> sebsebseb: If I can't diagnostically determine precisely what the support issue is, how will I know when they (opengl/edge) fixes it?
[22:17] <suzanne> *fix it
[22:17] <sebsebseb> suzanne: reverse enginering hardware support is a rather difficult and time consuming thing, for developers to do
[22:18] <rix_> suigeneris: thanks, but nobody answers there. Thanks anyway..
[22:18] <fear> PacketCollision: Do you think it is because it is not yet installed but is instead running on the "try without any changes" feature
[22:18] <suzanne> sebsebseb: I understand that, hence the lag in support.  This /is/ and older system though.
[22:18] <wgrant> suzanne: Open source ATI support will be much better in Ubuntu 10.04. I'd try again then.
[22:19] <sebsebseb> wgrant: for old cards as well yeah?
[22:19] <wgrant> suzanne: ATI only recently released documentation for chips less than a few years old. It's taking a while to catch up.
[22:19] <wgrant> sebsebseb: Yes.
[22:19] <suzanne> wgrant: Is there a changelog where I can view the progress, I wonder?
[22:19] <wgrant> suzanne: Mmm, not sure about that one.
[22:19] <olokos> nie ma cie!
[22:19] <fear> Do you think it is because it is not yet installed but is instead running on the "try without any changes" feature
[22:19] <olokos> apn!
[22:19] <matts45acp> anybody tell me why when i tried to install a wifi driver in ubuntu and then restart my screen goes black and the light on my capslock button blinks
[22:20] <sebsebseb> suzanne: ok well in this case, this is a good idea,  put 8.04 on for now :)  then when April comes and 10.04 comes out, you can directly upgrade to it, but you won't get Ext4 on upgrade, and probably not Grub 2 either.  If you want those probably easier to clean install, then install Grub 2 after woulds, and convert Ext3 to Ext4, resulting in something that may not be quite the proper thing.
[22:21] <fear> PacketCollision:Do you think it is because it is not yet installed but is instead running on the "try without any changes" feature
[22:21] <wgrant> sebsebseb: But neither GRUB2 nor ext4 are particularly important.
[22:21] <suzanne> Not for my purposes, anyway
[22:21] <sebsebseb> wgrant: I assume that's ok,  for me to say, that they won't get Ext4 on a 8.04 upgrade?  even though of course I don't 100% know for sure,  but I highly doubt it will happen on upgrade.
[22:21] <wgrant> sebsebseb: That's correct.
[22:21] <sebsebseb> suzanne: also what wgrant  put Ext4 and Grub 2 aren't particularly important anyway
[22:22] <fear> Do you think it is because it is not yet installed but is instead running on the "try without any changes" feature
[22:22] <sebsebseb> wgrant: I once had ikonia telling me off, when I was saying stuff like that to someone in here.
[22:24] <PacketCollision> fear:  that shouldn't matter, but you will probably have to go to admin->printers and set it up
[22:24] <EDinNY> I just moved my hd from one machine to another.  Ubuntu 9.10 figured out everything but the sound...how do I fix the sound?
[22:24] <sebsebseb> suzanne: not sure what your Debian idea is, but that's probably a good idea as well
[22:24] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Oh, I was just saying that it's technically just as functional, but not everyone else who uses this particular machine can use a cli.
[22:25] <marius_> ppl, how do I get rid of the small arrow that appears on top of the main gnome menu button?
[22:25] <EDinNY> how do I get ubuntu to figure out what sound card I am using?
[22:25] <sebsebseb> suzanne: oh right I see
[22:25] <fear> thats what I did to get it set up and established.  There were 3 options Port 1 port 2 or other
[22:25] <suzanne> sebsebseb: A pretty gui has a certain appeal that the tools themselves do not.
[22:25] <Atul> my friend said you give out porn passwords here?
[22:25] <suigeneris> EDinNY lspci
[22:25] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Hence the real desire to stick with 9.10
[22:25] <Atul> who should i contact
[22:25] <sebsebseb> suzanne: well there's the old add/remove in  8.04 instead of Software Centre
[22:25] <IdleOne> !warez | Atul
[22:25] <fear> I do not think that the port matters
[22:26] <sebsebseb> suzanne: also when 10.04 comes out, the plan is for Synaptic to be replaced by Software Centre as well, plus two or so more things
[22:26] <suzanne> sebsebseb: I liked synaptic, though :(
[22:26] <EDinNY> suigeneris: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) <- seems to be sound.  how do I make it work?
[22:26] <sebsebseb> suzanne: 8.04 has Synaptic :)
[22:26] <suzanne> sebsebseb: I'll probably stick with apt-get anyways.
[22:26] <DaZ> suzanne: so you'll still use synaptic
[22:26] <blakkheim> sebsebseb: good thing we still have aptitude
[22:26] <sebsebseb> suzanne: also I expect that Synaptic will be in the 10.04 repo for those that want it.
[22:27] <Flannel> sebsebseb, blakkheim, suzanne: synaptic won't be going away in Lucid
[22:27] <wolter> what is the name of the window gksu calls?
[22:27] <wolter> I have to disable its wobblyness in ccsm
[22:27] <fear> Do the poerts matter?
[22:27] <fear> ports?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> Flannel: which is basically what i put
[22:27] <DaZ> it's not a ubuntu project so it's going to be still developed.
[22:28] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Only eventually.  Please stop making confusing claims, especially because Lucid isn't topical for this channel to begin with.
[22:28] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ok
[22:28] <suzanne> Interesting
[22:28] <fear> PacketColllision?
[22:29] <EDinNY> how do I set my sound levels?
[22:29] <billy_> does anyone know about using d4x to download from rapidshare? (dont really know if its okay to ask here, but it doesnt seem to be reading the login cookies and assumes im not logged in)
[22:29] <matts45acp> anybody tell me why when i tried to install a wifi driver in ubuntu and then restart my screen goes black and the light on my capslock button blinks
[22:29] <suzanne> sebsebseb: (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
[22:29] <suzanne> (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.
[22:29] <suzanne> (II) RADEON(0): [agp] You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module
[22:29] <suzanne> is loaded before the radeon kernel module.
[22:29] <FloodBot2> suzanne: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <wgrant> matts45acp: That's a kernel panic. A bug in the kernel.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> suzanne: Did you ever use a version of  Ubuntu before 9.10?
[22:29] <wgrant> matts45acp: How did you install the driver?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> suzanne: oh I am not sure what that means
[22:30] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Yeah, I have.  That log file
[22:30] <suzanne> sebsebseb: Hmm, I'm going to look into that real quick
[22:30] <killerblack> billy_: use jdownloader better for rapidshare like sites
[22:30] <smith> have a LINKSYS WUSB600N WIRELESS adapter when i load backtrack up it says it is connected but there is no internet and in windows network connection window the device does not show up only if i disconect it from backtrack i will show up any idead my friend thanks
[22:30] <fear> !
[22:30] <billy_> killerblack, thats based on java right? java is slow :(
[22:30] <fear> !|PacketCollision
[22:31] <fear> !|Ubuntu
[22:31] <blakkheim> smith: this is #ubuntu
[22:31] <fear> !|printer
[22:31] <killerblack> billy_: hmm yea but  its awsome app if ur machine can handle it
[22:31] <matts45acp> wgrant i instaled it in the terminal
[22:31] <wgrant> billy_: The slowness not significant for IO-bound applications like that.
[22:31] <wgrant> matts45acp: Which driver, and why?
[22:32] <billy_> killerblack, looks like i have no other options
[22:32] <matts45acp> its was a realtek driver and i did it like that cause i couldnt get anything to work with ndiswrapper
[22:32] <billy_> wgrant, gues ill give it a shot
[22:32] <killerblack> billy_: jdownloader is good option ^^
[22:32] <fear> !|cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[22:32] <billy_> cheers :D
[22:33] <Kingsy101> hey ppl, I have just upgraded my PC to 9.10 however now for some reason the entire screen is slightly offset to the right, so there is a 1cm black bar down the left hand side of the screen. Does this mean the drivers arnt installed or something?
[22:33] <matts45acp> im using a toshiba a505 s6980
[22:33] <fear> !|cupsys-driver
[22:33] <Kingsy101> cos as far as I know its just using onboard graphics
[22:33] <Kingsy101> and I kinda assumed they are already installed and supported...
[22:33] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | fear
[22:33] <blakkheim> Kingsy101: what gpy?
[22:33] <wgrant> Kingsy101: have you tried adjusting your monitor?
[22:33] <Kingsy101> wgrant - as far as I know you cant move the image around on an LCD screen can ya?
[22:33] <matts45acp> wgrantits was a realtek driver and i did it like that cause i couldnt get anything to work with ndiswrapper
[22:33] <Kingsy101> what is a gpy ?
[22:34] <jmyers> wgrant: ok, I've been trying to get the opensource drivers working, but they lock my machine up since I tried installing the ati drivers from their website.  I can't figure out how to remove the packages that were installed via the --buildandinstallpkg switch from the drivers.  There doesn't appear to be any --uninstall or --remove switch.  I can't find any packages in synaptic to remove.  Any recommendations on how to get the ati website d
[22:34] <wgrant> Kingsy101: You can, sort of. Press the auto-adjust button and see what happens.
[22:34] <blakkheim> Kingsy101: graphics processing unit
[22:34] <wgrant> jmyers: I don't know about that. You really, really shouldn't be installing drivers manually.
[22:34] <wgrant> !ati | jmyers
[22:34] <Kingsy101> blakkheim - I have totally no idea..
[22:34] <wgrant> jmyers: ^^ that page might have some instructions.
[22:34] <blakkheim> Kingsy101: your video card in other words
[22:34] <Kingsy101> am I right in thinking must onboard stuff should be supported?
[22:34] <jmyers> wgrant: I'm learning this the hard way. lol
[22:35] <matts45acp> wgrant its was a realtek driver and i did it like that cause i couldnt get anything to work with ndiswrapper
[22:35] <blakkheim> Kingsy101: lspci | grep -i display
[22:35] <Kingsy101> I cant atm, I will ave to do it on monday (its in the office) I was just kinda enquiring
[22:36] <dooglus_> I'm using the 'import' command from imagemagick to script taking a screenshot, but it doesn't see to work if there are WINE apps running
[22:36] <dooglus_> is there a better command-line screenshot program?
[22:37] <blakkheim> dooglus_: scrot
[22:37] <Kingsy101> blakkheim - are there some onboard graphics that arnt supported?
[22:37] <dooglus_> blakkheim: be nice!
[22:37] <blakkheim> dooglus_: what?
[22:37] <dooglus_> blakkheim: thanks :)
[22:38] <blakkheim> :s
[22:38] <sontek> When I try to ssh to a server it takes 35 seconds to bring up the login prompt
[22:38] <sontek> it doesn't do this when I do it in putty from my windows VPC
[22:38] <blakkheim> sontek: use ssh -v for more detail
[22:39] <sontek> blakkheim: http://paste2.org/p/569921
[22:40] <jsoft> When I go to install the flash player plugin, it says that libpango-1.0-0 is not an unsatisfyable dependancy. Any ideas here?
[22:40] <wolter> is there a way apt-get can show me a package's contents?
[22:40] <wgrant> jsoft: Where are you trying to install it from?
[22:40] <wolter> for example, I want to find out the name of its binary
[22:40] <blakkheim> sontek: at which stage does it stall?
[22:40] <wgrant> wolter: dpkg -L somepackage
[22:40] <wolter> thanks wgrant
[22:40] <tritium> wolter: apt-file can do that.  dpkg -L is for installed packages
[22:41] <jsoft> wgrant: adobes site.
[22:41] <dooglus_> blakkheim: scrot works great, and import doesn't.  is that worth reporting?
[22:41] <blakkheim> sontek: i would make sure your /etc/ssh/ssh_config is setup to only use the auth methods that you need, and do the same on the /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server
[22:41] <wolter> oh thanks tritium
[22:41] <blakkheim> dooglus_: dunno, never used import
[22:41] <hikenboot> anyone know the best way to read xchat logs ---something readable?
[22:41] <tritium> wolter: is the package installed?
[22:41] <sontek> blakkheim: it pauses for 10/15sec at next auth method: gssapi-with-mic  and then pauses for a little longer after Credentials cache file '/tmp/krb5cc_1000' not found
[22:41] <wgrant> jsoft: Try to just install the adobe-flashplugin package from Synaptic.
[22:41] <Omen_20> Why is it that Complete Removal of a program seems to be completely useless?
[22:42] <blakkheim> sontek: yeah, try disabling the authentication methods you don't need
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: which program?
[22:42] <Flannel> Omen_20: What do you mean?
[22:42] <Coolest_Loser57> Could anyone help me burn DVDS??? i've found numerous amounts of forums devoted to this topic, and i've tried a couple different types of software, but none of them are working... could someone walk me through step-by-step on how to burn dvds (for use in my home dvd player)??
[22:43] <Omen_20> Banshee. It has some major issues and has been getting worse over the past week. I completely removed it in Synaptic and reinstalled it. It came back as if nothing had changed. It was not a fresh start like it should have been.
[22:43] <jsoft> wgrant: Already have. No worky.
[22:43] <blakkheim> Coolest_Loser57: k3b is a good program for that
[22:43] <wolter> tritium, well, i will use it for both installed and non-installed packages
[22:43] <wgrant> jsoft: 'no worky'?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: ok the .folders in home
[22:43] <Coolest_Loser57> blakkheim:K3B?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: the hidden .folders in home
[22:43] <wolter> can somebody tell me how to make use of notify-osd from the terminal?
[22:43] <blakkheim> Coolest_Loser57: aptitude install k3b
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: that is where program user data goes
[22:43] <jsoft> wgrant: yes thats right, it does nothing for firefox.
[22:44] <tritium> wolter: you'll have to use apt-file for non-installed packages.  You can use dpkg for installed packages.  Neither cover both use cases.
[22:44] <DaZ> blakkheim: and a half of kde? <:
[22:44] <Omen_20> There isnt one for Banshee
[22:44] <wolter> tritium, thats fine.. I can use each depending on the case
[22:44] <blakkheim> DaZ: true, but he didn't say what DE he was using. i wanted to choose something i thought would be easy for him to use
[22:44] <Coolest_Loser57> blakkheim: aptitude? i found it in the Ubuntu software center.. it syas it only works for cds, i can burn cds, i need to burn dvds
[22:45] <blakkheim> Coolest_Loser57: you could try something else then. doesn't brasero do dvds?
[22:45] <DaZ> blakkheim: iirc works for dvds.
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: yeah I just seen, on another distro right now, but  should be the same as Ubuntu for the Banshee stuff,  i'll have a look to see if I can find something hold on
[22:45] <synx> so, still no luck with the liveCD. The md5 of the iso checks out. The md5 of all the files on the mounted CD check out.
[22:45] <cuekbebek> hello
[22:45] <Omen_20> sebsebseb, thanks
[22:46] <Coolest_Loser57> blakkheim: yeh its supposed to, but it hangs up when its "converting" a movie to mpeg2 format
[22:46] <tritium> Omen_20: removing a package doesn't remove config files and preferences in your home directory.
[22:46] <arand> Coolest_Loser57: k3b can burn both.
[22:46] <Omen_20> tritium, I figured Complete would do that. What is the difference between regular and complete then?
[22:46] <Coolest_Loser57> arand: ok but can it burn FROM .AVI formats??? or do i also need a file converter?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: ok new there was something.  .cache and .config have Banshee stuff in them
[22:47] <Coolest_Loser57> arand: im about to try it out, but its dling now, do you know if i can input .avi formatter movies?
[22:47] <DaZ> Coolest_Loser57: yes it can, and it makes great coffee too
[22:47] <blakkheim> Coolest_Loser57: are you sure it's hung up? converting takes a while depending on how fast your cpu is
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: if you delete the hidden folder for a program or move it some where else, .mozilla for example, then re open Firefox, it will be like you just installed it for the first time
[22:48] <Omen_20> sebsebseb, thanks
[22:48] <Coolest_Loser57> blakkheim: i've left it on for a couple horus before... shouldn't take htat long at all
[22:48] <tritium> Omen_20: whether or not *system* level configuration files (not user-specific ones) are removed or not.
[22:48] <Omen_20> tritium, k
[22:49] <arand> Coolest_Loser57: don't think so, might need mpeg proper...
[22:49] <Omen_20> sebsebseb, most of my issues were in terms of podcasts. It started doubling everything and every podcast would download the Presidents Weekly Address. It was like that RSS feed took over.
[22:49] <ries> Hey all, where can I find a list of ubuntu names to ubuntu version? I just came across a howto that states : Edgy through Gusty:
[22:49] <skyl> what are -dev files called?
[22:50] <ries> but I know I have 8.04 and I have no idea what name it is...
[22:50] <skyl> -dev packages that is
[22:50] <EDinNY> When I move an HD containing kubuntu to another machine should kubuntu detect the new sound card during boot?
[22:50] <Coolest_Loser57> arand: mpeg proper??? i don't understand what you mean./.. is thaat a program name?? or do you mean i need mpeg formatted files?
[22:50] <Guest7355> idenitfy whats that
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: oh .gconf  apps has Banshee in it as well
[22:50] <jsoft> What is the proper way to install flash on 8.04? The package does not work, because it trys to download a non-existant file from adobes site.
[22:50] <wolter> how do i send a message to notify-osd?
[22:51] <blakkheim> josh|: ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[22:51] <VCoolio> ries: it follows the alphabet and year.month, 8.04 is hardy heron
[22:51] <blakkheim> sorry jsoft
[22:51] <VCoolio> wolter: notify-send
[22:51] <wolter> and, should notify-osd notify me when i eject a disk or change my songs?
[22:51] <i_is_broke> sebsebseb, ping
[22:51] <VCoolio> wolter: eject don't know; songs depends on your player, check the prefs
[22:52] <ubuntu_> hi
[22:52] <arand> Coolest_Loser57: http://k3b.plainblack.com/videoencoding claims it's possible, don't know which version it applies to though..
[22:52] <frojnd> What should I isntall for my fx 5500 on ubuntu 8.4 LTS? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[22:52] <i_is_broke> !hi | ubuntu
[22:52] <ries> VCoolio: is there a command line option to know the name (hardy heron) ?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: (banshee-1 the exact name, but not really relivaint)  anyway if you remove/move all Banshee stuff from hidden .folders in Home.  and re open Banshee it should be like a new install again
[22:52] <i_is_broke> uname -a
[22:52] <VCoolio> ries: lsb_release -a
[22:52] <tritium> ries: lsb_release -a
[22:52] <DeepTime> ries: lsb_release -a
[22:52] <sebsebseb> i_is_broke: hi
[22:52] <ries> thanks
[22:52]  * VCoolio wins
[22:52] <frojnd> What should I isntall for my fx 5500 on ubuntu 8.4 LTS? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new? I need to install drivers.
[22:52] <i_is_broke> sebsebseb, got a sec, got a question for ya?
[22:52] <tritium> i_is_broke: that's for the kernel, not the distro
[22:52] <ubuntu_> hi
[22:53] <mgolisch> lsb_release -a
[22:53] <sebsebseb> i_is_broke: uhmm if it's  Ubuntu related and not Lucid, this is the place, if not, this isn't the place
[22:53] <Coolest_Loser57> thanks all im going to go try on it, if it doesn't work with some tinkering, ill be back lol
[22:53] <Coolest_Loser57> preciate the help
[22:53] <i_is_broke> tritium, sorry im use to going by the kernel im running.
[22:54] <Omen_20> sebsebseb, yes it does. Thanks! This is actually easier than Windows which I should have expected. But I live on Banshee and freaked out.
[22:54] <LetsGo67> My SSH server is really unstable!  Help please!
[22:54] <VCoolio> ries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[22:54] <mgolisch> LetsGo67: what do you mean?
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: uhmm at the last bit?
[22:55] <beeftube> anyone have any idea where synaptic hides the xmame executable folder after installation? TIA :)
[22:55] <LetsGo67> Mgolisch: gets timeout errors too often.
[22:55] <ries> is Hardy Heron and hardy the same?, for me it just states hardy
[22:55] <nozzy> I'm trying to try out the 64 bit version of ubuntu, booting straight from the cd, but it asks for a username and password. Blank/blank and admin/admin doesn't work. Username "Ubuntu" and blank password doesn't work. How do I get in?
[22:55] <wgrant> ries: Yes.
[22:55] <i_is_broke> ries, its the same
[22:56] <wgrant> nozzy: ubuntu/ubuntu. It shouldn't ask for a password, though.
[22:56] <ries> thanks... I wasn't sure
[22:56] <Omen_20> sebsebseb, what?
[22:56] <wiizzard> is netgear routers good to use in linux? it seems sluggish
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: nevermind, I misunderstood or something,  I guess you weren't happy when Banshee messed up on you, that's what you were saying basicalley
[22:58] <mgolisch> LetsGo67: i think theres some keep alive settings you can add to your ssh config
[22:58] <mgolisch> LetsGo67: so your client would send some data every x seconds to keep the connection allive
[22:59] <Omen_20> sebsebseb, yeah I had never had a problem with a program in linux since ive been using it. First time I've ever had to deal with it like on Windows.
[22:59] <LetsGo67> mgolisch how do I change that?  Plus right now I can't even login.
[22:59] <jason_> Hello all , wow what a great OS but i have a  little problem anyone got a moment?
[22:59] <_nick_> arand: /exit
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Omen_20: well as you just learnt, it's easier to fix programs that went wrong in Ubuntu, than on Windows
[22:59] <mgolisch> LetsGo67: add something like ServerAliveInterval 120 to your .ssh/ssh_config file on your client
[23:00] <mgolisch> LetsGo67: that will send a keep alive paket every 120 seconds
[23:00] <Omen_20> Yeah I mistook the Removal in Synaptic as an uninstall wizard.
[23:01] <d0wn> When my computer starts, it has the KDE login. How would I change it back to the Gnome one? I went to the "Login Screen" item under Preferences, however that was not how
[23:01] <jason_> Im totaly new to linux based os or any other os than vista  I have downloaded some of my games that I play and i am having problems installing them  anyone have anysuggestions?
[23:01] <d0wn> Sorry, it was "Login Screen" under Administration, not Preferences
[23:02] <Hilikus> how do i install X with ratpoison in it in a server (without gdm at all)?
[23:02] <tritium> Omen_20: no, that's effectively what it is.  You just didn't realize that removal doesn't touch users' directories.  That would be too invasive.
[23:02] <Hilikus> i have ratpoison istalled already, but i think i'm missing X
[23:03] <Omen_20> yeah. But that's pretty sweet none the less. I wonder if Software Center will deal with user directories or if it will stay like Synaptic.
[23:04] <tritium> Omen_20: it will certainly stay like Synaptic.
[23:04] <matts45acp> anybody here know if the rtl8192se driver works on ubuntu with ndiswrapper
[23:04] <tritium> Omen_20: such tools should _never_ touch user directories.
[23:05] <Omen_20> Is it a security issue, or just to easy to screw something up?
[23:06] <trukeyshoot> im trying to connect to a website using port 2062, but when im doing this behind a proxy it always connects me to the site using port 80
[23:06] <matts45acp> anybody here know if the rtl8192se driver works on ubuntu with ndiswrapper
[23:06] <trukeyshoot> so certain proxies only allow you to connect to port 80 of sites?
[23:06] <arand> Coolest_Loser57: Seems like a combination of DeVeDe (create image)  and a standard burning app (brasero/k3b) is one solution...
[23:06] <VCoolio> d0wn: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and set it to /usr/sbin/gdm  or maybe also dpkg-reconfigure gdm does the trick
[23:07] <d0wn> VCoolio: do you know if there is a way to do it with a gui?
[23:07] <tritium> Omen_20: it's more of a users' rights issue, you could say.
[23:07] <terror> lol whats with ppl and guis
[23:07] <VCoolio> ; sorryd0wn: actually, no, I always find that to be more difficult for these kind of things
[23:07] <frojnd> What should I isntall for my fx 5500 on ubuntu 8.4 LTS? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new? I need to install drivers for fx 5500
[23:08] <DaVinci> one! What is the right line in, but on a server
[23:08] <billy_> wgrant, jDownloader, 204mb of the memory :\
[23:08] <d0wn> Terror: because I don't always want to use the command line. I don't see what is too hard to understand about that
[23:08] <tritium> frojnd: the restricted drivers manager should have a suggestion for you
[23:08] <d0wn> and VCoolio: thank you for your help. I will do that for now, and will try to find a way to do it witha  gui later
[23:08] <frojnd> tritium: what about if I don't have an X?
[23:08] <frojnd> tritium: who will suggest me what to install?
[23:09] <d0wn> VCoolio: dpkg-reconfigure worked, and let me change from kdm to gdm. thank you
[23:09] <tritium> frojnd: apt-cache show <packagename>, and read the package descriptions.  You should be able to determine which is appropriate
[23:09] <arand> d0wn: reinstalling, which might be equivalent of reconfiguring, can be done in synaptic.
[23:16] <nozzy> wgrant, thank you, ill have my remote person try it
[23:16] <Omen_20> Does anyone know how easy GTK+ compared to other GUI systems? I have a GUI class next semester and would like to try GTK+
[23:16] <Coolest_Loser57> Does anyone know of a program on ubuntu that will convert AVI files into Video_TS files (so that i can burn them to dvd)
[23:16] <Hilikus> how do i install the binary nvidia dirver from the terminal?
[23:17] <geraudk2000> salut
[23:17] <keyholder> hello
[23:17] <geraudk2000> puis je avoir niko svp??
[23:17] <niko> geraudk2000: this is an english channel
[23:17] <niko> try #ubuntu-fr
[23:17] <ZykoticK9> Coolest_Loser57, check out devede
[23:18] <capt_blackwood> hmm
[23:18] <Coolest_Loser57> i have devede, but what do i put it into??? like video DVD or video cd or///?
[23:18] <rusteg> бля!!!!!!!!
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> Coolest_Loser57, "video DVD" is a regular DVD, "video CD" is a VCD (probably not what you want)
[23:19] <ubuntu_giant> Hey, is anyone having trouble with Firefox updates.
[23:20] <ubuntu_giant> ?
[23:20] <holmser> it just froze my browser
[23:20] <holmser> the firefox update that is
[23:20] <Coolest_Loser57> I've tried Devede before and it didn't work
[23:22] <Coolest_Loser57> actually, i've already tried to use devede, nad it outputed a folder with two files in it...whagt do i do now
[23:22] <ubuntu_giant> Yeah, I'm trying to update my add-ons, but Firefox won't even download them from the mozilla site.
[23:22] <ubuntu_giant> I'm even using a new profile.
[23:23] <ubuntu_giant> Nobody could help me in #firefox.
[23:23] <keyholder> Hilikus
[23:23] <keyholder> open the terminal
[23:23] <terror> whats a good theme site ?
[23:24] <keyholder> and write:sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96
[23:24] <WinfredNg> Hi,my Ubuntu after week up from Hibernate then WIFI is not work...
[23:24] <king> Does anyone know how to uninstall python2.5 from a linux machine
[23:24] <king> its a ubuntu
[23:24] <terror> does anybody know a good theme site
[23:25] <ubuntu_giant> terror: opendesktop.org.
[23:25] <WinfredNg> Hi,my Ubuntu after week up from Hibernate then WIFI is not work...
[23:25] <ubuntu_giant> terror:  Any "theme" link in Ubuntu will get you there.
[23:25] <WinfredNg> any idea?
[23:26] <Coolest_Loser57> just try to refresh your internet connection, i get that issue sometimes too
[23:26] <Coolest_Loser57> windfredng
[23:26] <ubuntu_giant> WinfredNg: I have the same problem.  It's not just wireless.  Any USB port that I unplug from during hibernation doesn't work.
[23:27] <ctmjr> king apt-get --purge remove python2.5
[23:27] <WinfredNg> Coolest_Loser57: I use ifconfig the wlan0 is missing.
[23:27] <EricTheHax> I have a TSSTCorp TS-H653L and it didn't act like this until i installed ubuntu after having gone back to windows to see what the commotion was about, anyway it could be the hardware or ubuntu, but this happened just after ubuntu install (i dont have windows on my machine anymore so i dont know if its the hard or the soft) and i cant get it to recognize blanks
[23:27] <WinfredNg> ubuntu_giant: My usb is ok, Just WIFI
[23:28] <Coolest_Loser57> WinfredNg idk to be honest networking isn't my strong point
[23:28] <king> ctmjr: thanks for your help
[23:28] <steven_Office> Im unable to get the bluetooth working with in XP on VMware/ubuntu the problem is between vmware and ubuntu I believe but unable to find a fix... anyone out here with this problem?
[23:28] <ctmjr> king: your welcome
[23:29] <ubuntu_giant> I can't seem to install updates for add-ons in firefox.  I found out Firefox can get to the file, but it times out when I try to install it.  Does anyone else have this problem?
[23:30] <WinfredNg> only reboot?
[23:30] <mikeconcepts> System:    Host mike-laptop Kernel 2.6.31-16-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - Main Edition
[23:30] <DWG_> anybody have problems with 9.10 screen displays?
[23:30] <EricTheHax> ive used ubuntu before and this never happened but now it wont recognize blanks but it happened right after i reinstalled ubuntu so its not likely the hardware
[23:30] <Trackieman> Eric, update the firmware in you TSSTCorp TS-H653L from HP's website
[23:31] <billy_> DWG_, me, im a newbie tho so gave up straight away and went back to 9.04
[23:32] <WinfredNg> Can i fix the WIFI, No reboot.
[23:32] <DWG_> anybody try anything besides goback a release?
[23:32] <EricTheHax> its windows only and i tried using wine it stopped with some error i know i cant fix
[23:33] <wolter> VCoolio, where are the preferences?
[23:33] <EricTheHax> w8 maybe if i extract the exe's contents....
[23:33] <EricTheHax> more exes and an rtf
[23:33] <wolter> VCoolio, also, I don't know why, but I don't have notify-send binary
[23:34] <wolter> VCoolio, never mind, apt-file found the file for me
[23:34] <WinfredNg> I try to Hibernate, the WIFI still not work.
[23:34] <wolter> VCoolio, but I would like to know about the preferences
[23:35] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: it doenst work after resume?
[23:35] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, Yes. Any idea?
[23:35] <Trackieman> Eric, you may be able to create a DOS boot floppy/USB pen. Put the files on that
[23:35] <AnmE> hola
[23:36] <AnmE> hay alguien por aquí???
[23:36] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: did you boot some other os inbetween?
[23:36] <EricTheHax> i could if i had windows to run james' format tool
[23:36] <Hilikus> i'm trying to install nvidia-glx but it's telling me i have to explicitely select one of the 3: -96, -185, -173.  i think i remember there's another program that automatically keeps up the latest version of the driver and it recompiles the module when needed. is this still valid or i now need to use nvidia/glx
[23:36] <EricTheHax> and had windows vista adapted to run within dos
[23:36] <EricTheHax> cause it only works for the machines original os
[23:36] <Hilikus> envy i think it's called
[23:36] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: especialy the madwifi drivers have problems with that, you may need to cold b oot your computer for the wifi to work again
[23:36] <mike3> I have noticed recentely that my Ubuntu system locks up when transferring files. I'm getting Cpu Soft lock ups... Are others experiencing this as well? I may have to downgrade to 9.04 and not install any updates. :)
[23:36] <Hilikus> !envy
[23:36] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, My laptop just one OS. is ubuntu 910
[23:37] <mike3> Anyone experiencing CPU Soft lockups ???
[23:37] <Hilikus> !binarydriver
[23:37] <wolter> VCoolio, also, if you reply to my previous messages please pm so I don't lose them, ill be back in like 30 mins and that can feel my scroll buffer
[23:37] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: you could try reloading the kernel modules for the wlan interface
[23:37] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: and then look in dmesg if it prints any warninggs or errors
[23:37] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, Oh,,it happen each time when i hibernate.
[23:38] <EricTheHax> would 0514.bin be the fimware thing? besides, ive already upgraded my firmware to the latest which was yrs ago
[23:38] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, My Kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>, it is new.
[23:38] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: yeah you may need to reload the kernel modules
[23:38] <EricTheHax> which is still the latest today :\
[23:38] <mike3> Anyone experiencing CPU Soft lockups ???
[23:39] <lotus> I'm having massive difficutlies running Tor.
[23:39] <lotus> It keeps thinking it's allready running.
[23:39] <arielCo> Hello everyone... why am I getting a "distribution upgrade" even though I'm running Karmic? Shouldn't update-manager wait for Lucid to be released?
[23:39] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, you meaning modprobe?
[23:39] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: unload them with sudo modprobe -r module_name and reinsert them with sudo modprobe module_name and see if that helops
[23:39] <mgolisch> WinfredNg: yeah
[23:40] <Omen_20> What is Nice in terms of processor activity?
[23:40] <WinfredNg> mgolisch, Ok, I'll try, Thanks. Maybe it is ok.