 @YougoChats [i'm sure the picture is real. what they claim is happening vs what is really hap …], hopefully, I'm just worried about all who want full desktop... and don't get that out of box
 this is the real deal picture ;)
 https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_695/v1603110770/ysxni2y7ulluzwlnw3fl.jpg
 The PRO1-X has still not been added to the list of Ubuntu-Touch compatible devices, although it seems to have quite advanced compatibility https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 @Elias [The PRO1-X has still not been added to the list of Ubuntu-Touch compatible devic …], But has outdated sd835
 way more up to date than most all the ubuntu touch phones ;)
 @mateosalta [way more up to date than most all the ubuntu touch phones ;)], That's what I thought, since it handles convergence well, so I don't understand why it hasn't been added to the list of UBports devices.
 hasn't been submitted yet?
 @mateosalta [way more up to date than most all the ubuntu touch phones ;)], But those are old phones which have ported ub. But this one has ub support natively and has been launched in 2020.
 is it really native?
 I think is just a android 9 port right?
 @mateosalta [is it really native?], Yes lineage os and ub natively. Users can decide which to use
 well halium and all that - technically native, but needs the linage bits to work
 Fwd from Aravind_sd: https://www.xda-developers.com/pro1-x/
 @Bharatwaj.S [But those are old phones which have ported ub. But this one has ub support nativ …], Okay, when will it be available for everyone?
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 @Bharatwaj.S [But those are old phones which have ported ub. But this one has ub support nativ …], [Edit] Okay, when will it be available for purchase for everyone?
 @Elias [Okay, when will it be available for purchase for everyone?], Not yet announced. You can see the pricing on that post👆🏻
 sometime after christmass
 There are a lot of Ubuntu Touch compatible smartphones coming out right now, volla phone, Pro1 X, Cosmo Communicator...
 Manufacturers have understood that users no longer want to be monitored by Google, Apple and Microsoft.
 @Waxberry [We can work with the devs to bring our own keys for UB Ports if needed], that sounds good, I really don't like all my devices warning "not trusted" everytime i boot
 users can always unlock it if they want too, but won't have a immediate need to out of box
 plus if they ever do encryption, this is necessary to a secure a lost phone
 @RealDanct12 [they got it installed because they're a tester], oh, have you switched on the side screen - that would be awesome on a phone like that - all you do is tell it to act like a tablet, then side stage works
 How
 And what's that?
 The reason I use ubuntu touch is it's an easy to use drop in replacement for Android and is coming pre-installed on devices ready to use as a daily driver vs some extreme Foss device that may not get calls or this or that yet I'm deff getting the Pro1-X as my next device gonna order mine tomorrow
 Fwd from mateosalta: change the catagory to tablet for your device codename
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/wDU02PKk.png
 then you get a three finger gesture to drag something to the side in landscape
 splitscreen multitasking even on ubuntu touch! :)
 I prefer not
 Santoni doesn't have a large enough display
 And even the yumi animation doesn't show
 (Photo, 433x472) https://irc.ubports.com/T7ZSoyDs.png
 the other phone I backed, next to the new one :)
 @Javacookies [there are a lot of things I don't like — very rounded corners, curved screen, bi …], the small keyboard plus full screen real estate are very attractive to me but do wonder about the typing experience … but the price.........is bit high yeah.......but for some reason it feels somewhat justified for 8gigs ram and 256 gigs st
[01:37] <ubptgbot> orage
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 @Bibarub [is there any way to import ovpn config?], you can open a vpn with a ovpn file via commandline i believe it was `openvpn your-file.ovpn`
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 @Javacookies [there are a lot of things I don't like — very rounded corners, curved screen, bi …], [Edit] the small keyboard plus full screen real estate are very attractive to me but do wonder about the typing experience … but the price.........is bit high yeah.......but for some reason it feels somewhat justified for 8gigs ram and 256
[02:09] <ubptgbot> gigs storage 700 that is
 @Bibarub [is there any way to import ovpn config?], [Edit] you can open a vpn with a ovpn file via commandline i believe it was `openvpn your-file.ovpn` … if you can import the ovpn on the desktop you should be able to transfer the config file to `/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/` from i think the same place on the desktop
[03:34] <ubptgbot> Pablo was added by: Pablo
 Hi
 Moto G4 plus is compatible with Ubuntu touch?
 @RealDanct12 [Santoni doesn't have a large enough display], I think he's talking about the fxtec phone. … Split screen is a highlighted feature so the side-stage on UT is somewhat similar. I actually though the same. With a physical keyboard, it make more sense even with a relatively small screen
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 @mateosalta [the other phone I backed, next to the new one :)], I’ve already got a Pro1 but having seen the X edition, I might have to join you in backing it. I really love the blue colour and am super pleased about the spec bump
 Ubuntu Touch for Redmi 4X has released! … https://twitter.com/DanctNIX/status/1321374951090257922
 Hi all, are there any docs/tips for troubleshooting convergence? I have fp2 and the microsoft adapter, and I have a lot of problems — sometimes the MS adapter says connecting and just times out, sometimes I get on but then it just dies on me mid session and drops back to an unusable handset which I have to reboot. Sometimes the speed is fi
[08:59] <ubptgbot> ne, but quite often the lag makes it unusable. If I disconnect normally from a session, the phone remains in desktop mode on the handset and I have to reboot. And then sometimes the phone just crashes in the middle of the session. Many problems :(
 @mateosalta [hasn't been submitted yet?], Only announced yesterday. And not manufactured yet
 @mateosalta [sometime after christmass], One option is pre-Christmas. The only way to buy it is through Indiegogo
 @RealDanct12 [Ubuntu Touch for Redmi 4X has released! … https://twitter.com/DanctNIX/status/132 …], 👍🎉🎀
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[10:39] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> @RealDanct12 [Ubuntu Touch for Redmi 4X has released! … https://twitter.com/DanctNIX/status/132 …], ooh thanks very much
[10:42] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> the fisrt time, have a long time to start?
 @Didac Sanchez [the fisrt time, have a long time to start?], you need to wipe everything
[10:42] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i dont do it
 dont use twrp to wipe things, there is an option to wipe userdata for you
 and unfortunately if you dont wipe, installation failed so you would want to back them up
 @Didac Sanchez [the fisrt time, have a long time to start?], it'll stuck at the black screen for a while, this is due to a bug with ubports recovery cannot display too large image (it is supposed to show ubports's yumi blinking eyes)
 this issue is unique, since this seems to be the first device ever in ubports installer
[10:44] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i try again, wipe with wipe data
 @Didac Sanchez [i try again, wipe with wipe data], Just select wipe data from installer
[10:45] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> 👍
 @kisekinopureya [Just select wipe data from installer], this, and make sure to change the channel to devel as stable is currently broken
 don't worry too much, development channel is where most of the fun started :)
 you get latest feature faster, but of course still remains stability
[10:46] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i start again, the screen is black
 @Didac Sanchez [i start again, the screen is black], yes
[10:47] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok
 after done the screen will go black
 just keep waiting
 [Edit] just keep waiting, it'll reboot to ubuntu touch
[10:51] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> after of the fisrt run, reboot again, but lock in screen Mi (ubuntu touch ....)
 no, do not reboot the device, it'll do it automatically for you
 are you stuck at the splash screen?
[10:52] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yes
 i dont know how you did it but for us we just booted to fastboot and do ubuntu installer
 and then just dont touch the phone while it's doing it job, even after the installer said it's done
[10:53] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> this i do it
[10:53] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yes
 so it has never booted to the recovery?
[10:55] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i booted in bootloader mode, it install recovery and boot, reboot, and do'nt doit nothing now
[10:56] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> install again and wipe data again
 sounds like the issue someone reported months ago but i had no way to reproduce it
 even if it doesn't boot, it should boot to recovery
 @RealDanct12 [sounds like the issue someone reported months ago but i had no way to reproduce …], and @kisekinopureya and one other tester got to the recovery just fine
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yeah now recovery
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and send system
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> reboot
[10:58] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> black screen
[10:59] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> wait
 yep, wait at the black screen
 then it reboots to ubuntu touch
[11:01] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> continue wait
[11:02] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok splash mi ubuntu
[11:03] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and hold here
 are you using devel?
[11:05] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> no
 (Photo, 529x140) https://irc.ubports.com/19AZ1Vsb.png
[11:06] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> no, estable
 Fwd from RealDanct12: this, and make sure to change the channel to devel as stable is currently broken
[11:06] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> stable
 then you need to reinstall it again because of the mistake
 mentioned in tweet and a bit scroll up as well
 [Edit] mentioned in tweet and earlier in this chat as well
[11:10] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> don't start ubuntu touch
[11:10] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> i reistall again
[11:11] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> [Edit] i reinstall again
[11:18] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> reboot after black screen
[11:18] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and hold here
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> any faild
 is it on devel?
 you must be on "deveL" if you want it to boot
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> no, is a stable version
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> aaaaaaaaaaah, ok
 YOU NEED TO BE ON DEVEL IF YOU WANT SANTONI TO BOOT
 hope you can read this perfectly
 we tend to skip messages in chat too
[11:21] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok, reinstall in devel realase
 ok
 😁
[11:27] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yeah, uuuuuubuntu touch alredy
 👍
 🍓🍓🍓
[11:29] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> and don't work the buttons, don't need it?
 ubuntu touch is gesture based
 @Didac Sanchez [and don't work the buttons, don't need it?], They have no function in UT
 so buttons doesn't do anything other than for looking
 [Edit] so touch screen buttons doesn't do anything other than for looking
 i wish they could've just remove the buttons and put navigation bar in the OS instead
 that way we dont have a lot of wasted space :P
[11:34] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> it have new updates?
 Yup I got one OTA update as well
 you can get future updates through ota
[11:34] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> in devel mode
 OTA uses Updates in Settings
[11:35] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> yea see
 If you just installed you have the most recent
 @Nagendra [Yup I got one OTA update as well], does OTA update works for you?
 i dont really stick around with the OS too much as i do a lot of reinstalling during testing
 [Edit] i dont really stick around with the installation too much as i do a lot of reinstalling during testing
 @RealDanct12 [does OTA update works for you?], Yes was able to update this morning
 oh cool, that gone well on first try then
[11:38] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> you must tell in the program, than the people choose of the devel mode, if not, not work OS
 i did ask @NeoTheThird about the installer and also wanted to turn make devel the default branch on this device
 he said it's not possible so..
 might probably have to wait until stable gets updated or ask @UniversalSuperBox to remove stable from santoni for sometime
 i mean, devel is just basically stable but with frequent updates and not rolling release
 [Edit] i mean, devel is just basically stable but with more frequent updates and not rolling release
 @RealDanct12 [oh cool, that gone well on first try then], Yup it was about 150 MB and no problems installing it
[11:45] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> Ok i'm go in
 @Nagendra [Yup it was about 150 MB and no problems installing it], 👍
 at least, good to know that everything works, still had quite a few bugs but for most part it's stable now
 so i hope nothing happens when using it as a daily driver
 will probably do that as well
 [Edit] i will probably do that as well
 I am using it as a daily driver . Everything is good so far . I will report back if I find anything
 Fingerprint reader working?
 @Stereofont [Fingerprint reader working?], not supported yet
 but would love to see that working as well
 @RealDanct12 [so i hope nothing happens when using it as a daily driver], There are only minor bugs which doesnt affect using it as daily driver
 yep, i hope that's the case here too :)
 i've been working on the port for a year (or less), and so far things are good on my end
[11:54] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> don't continue developer santoni phone ?
[11:59] <ubptgbot> <Didac Sanchez> ok, i'm feel smile, good work
 @RealDanct12 [but would love to see that working as well], Alfred made progress with Pixel 3a fingerprint reader I think
 Pixel 3a fingerprint issues were related to accidentally waking the device when slightly touching the reader.
 But in general fingerprint reading works on all Halium 9 devices
 @DrLeeB [Hi all, are there any docs/tips for troubleshooting convergence? I have fp2 and …], Unfortunately, the features you are using are indeed still unstable and problematic at the moment. I think mainly because not much people use them so not much focus on the development side either. Also, I wouldn't expect wireless display to be
[12:41] <ubptgbot>  good for external display and desktop mode since even if it works well, it won't be good enough because of input lag. Maybe the technology will improve in the future but right now, cloud gaming/workstations are better than wireless display.
 @fredldotme [But in general fingerprint reading works on all Halium 9 devices], Is that device able to unlock with fingerprint?
 @fredldotme [But in general fingerprint reading works on all Halium 9 devices], seems to be broken recently
 stuck on 93% on Volla
 @ItsMeShouko [Is that device able to unlock with fingerprint?], You mean the Pixel 3a? Yeah.
 @NotKit [stuck on 93% on Volla], Works on sargo, just tried it. Will test with my Volla Phone too if you need more input.
 @Javacookies [Unfortunately, the features you are using are indeed still unstable and problema …], Thanks for replying — I'm not aware of the cloud gaming/workstations piece, would you be able to namedrop some of the tech involved so I can google? … I did try networking my FP2 using an OTG cable so that the only thing going through the wir
[13:27] <ubptgbot> eless was the external display and it seemed better, but then I have the problem that I can't charge the phone and network at the same time. I tried a Lavalink Simulcharge OTG box (anyone else come across these?) but it doesn't seem to work on my FP2 and their support says they only guarantee simulataneous OTG and charging on samsung devices.  … Ar
[13:27] <ubptgbot> e people getting convergence working some other way on other devices then? e.g. are there devices which support a cabled external monitor?
[13:40] <ubptgbot> Dumi29 was added by: Dumi29
 Hello
 I've been wondering if the mi a1 tissot
 Supports ubuntu touch
 Has anyone attempted it?
 first your device have to support halium
 I am new to ubuntu touch
 What is halium?
 It makes Android devices compatible to Ubuntu Touch and the like, in simple terms.
 @Dumi29 [What is halium?], https://halium.org
 Thank you
 I was just looking it up
 but as far I can see it's unofficially supported
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/S05nMp9z.png
 via erfan's GSI
 Wow
 Nice
 I would love to get it working too
 I don't know what is working what isn't
 trying to patch kernel for anbox, facing this issue when building … [Forwarded from bibarub.] … In file included from ../include/linux/module.h:18:0, …                  from ../drivers/anbox/anbox-binder.c:33: … ../include/linux/moduleparam.h:229:22: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type … error, forbidden warning: module
[13:51] <ubptgbot> param.h:229 … make[3]: *** [../scripts/Makefile.build:340: drivers/anbox/anbox-binder.o] Error 1 … make[2]: *** [../scripts/Makefile.build:653: drivers/anbox] Error 2 … make[1]: *** [/home/bibarub/kernel_onclite/Makefile:1119: drivers] Error 2 … make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... … can any1 help me?
 was it difficult?
 @Bibarub [trying to patch kernel for anbox, facing this issue when building … [Forwarded fro …], @ubports_porting
 @just_carlod [I don't know what is working what isn't], a ok
 @just_carlod [I don't know what is working what isn't], Gib patches for fixing bugs on a2 sar
 @just_carlod [@ubports_porting], okay
 @NotKit [stuck on 93% on Volla], works on my xiaomi mi6, arm64 …  you seem to have missed it- … https://github.com/UbuntuTouch-sagit/android_device_xiaomi_msm8998-common/commit/30b2886910a266b9c7e14840dd964f84c0af4298#diff-6473f97b149ed6dae99a02be821aa57c218b5cbcbea4acfd1c0528826eb04346
 @DrLeeB [Thanks for replying — I'm not aware of the cloud gaming/workstations piece, woul …], well cloud gaming and such are better because involves powerful machines to help with the processing whereas wireless display does all the processing the device and display. Anyway, Nexus 4,5 and 7 supports wired external display.  It's too bad no one was able to answer your question, but I don't think they will in the future if that's how you're going to act.
 @Pablo [Ty, fuck you.], Can you please not use bad language here, or you will be banned.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hi Pablo, you can find our supported devices at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ …], Ty, ily.
 My fairphone 2 has been excellent, I use it every day as my smartphone, however it is starting to show its age; I would like to replace it. Looking at the supported devices it seems the Volla phone is best supported at the moment but I looked into it more and the Pro1 also seems to be supported and even comes preinstalled with UBports. Which
[15:27] <ubptgbot>  phone will be the UBports 'flagship' going forward? I want to ensure I purchase the one getting the most love.
 I guess it depends on your budget but looks like fxtec looks better on paper.
 Volla is pretty good if you need a regular phone with UBPorts
 yeah also a matter of preference, fxtec is a bit special with the physical keyboard so it's thicker too.
 Budget is not a problem, I have been using the fairphone for 3 years at this point so I am due an upgrade. I do like the idea of a physical keyboard and the full convergence of the fxtec.
 I noticed that youtube-dl is still in the UBports Libertine repositories. Personally I think it should stay there, but I also don't want UBports to face potential legal actions against it (even if I think those actions are spurious!
 We don't maintain the Ubuntu archive
 @UniversalSuperBox [We don't maintain the Ubuntu archive], Ok, all good then!
 I'd like to install Ubuntu Touch on my 📱 OPPO A7. Do you think that's a good idea 💡?
 is it listed at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io ?
[17:11] <ubptgbot> unconflictingwatersoaked was added by: unconflictingwatersoaked
[17:58] <ubptgbot> CER3D was added by: CER3D
 Can Ubuntu desktop version applications be installed on Ubuntu Touch? Thanks.
 you can install some in libertine if they are built for the architecture of your phone
 they won't necessarily be usable on your phone, nor run as well as they would on a PC though
 (Photo, 800x642) https://irc.ubports.com/KH1Rusan.png https://help-binance.com
 @Javacookies [well cloud gaming and such are better because involves powerful machines to help …], my note 4 does as well, Im just having some issues wih recovery since I found out the /cache partition is different for each variant
[19:41] <tr4ck3ur> hum, sorry a disruptive subject. Is there any "todo list" where we can help ?
[19:42] <tr4ck3ur> or a mailing list perhaps
[19:43] <tr4ck3ur> confinement has been decided in france
[19:45] <ubptgbot> giuseppeal was added by: giuseppeal
 @tr4ck3ur [hum, sorry a disruptive subject. Is there any "todo list" where we can help ?], ToDo list for what?
 for ubuntu touch presumably
 @tr4ck3ur [hum, sorry a disruptive subject. Is there any "todo list" where we can help ?], do you have any ideas for what you'd like to work on more specifically? ubuntu touch is quite large and varied in needed skills
[20:11] <tr4ck3ur> sure, let's say translation first, then development (for new comers eh)
 @tr4ck3ur [sure, let's say translation first, then development (for new comers eh)], https://translate.ubports.com would be the place to start then i guess
[20:16] <tr4ck3ur> ok thanks !
[20:19] <jameshjacks0njr> Im excited  about fxtec Also
[20:36] <ubptgbot> Joyc was added by: Joyc
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 @tr4ck3ur [ok thanks !], You can join UBports_French if you want and feel free to dm me (in french)  if you want some help when you start dev... If I can help I will ;)
 @Javacookies [well cloud gaming and such are better because involves powerful machines to help …], thanks — I guess if you already have a cloud gaming platform you know what they are and if you don't then you don't need to know :D
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[13:49] <AlanBell> pleia2: hypatia: elky: sooo that wasn't the most well attended meeting :) is the next one going to be scheduled for the thursday of UDS or do you want to schedule one before UDS?
[13:50] <elky> AlanBell, ooh. Hmm. I don't know.
[13:51] <nigelb> should have a bot ping us all when its time
[13:51] <nigelb> or I should remember to add to my cal
[13:51] <AlanBell> it is on the fridge calendar
[13:52] <nigelb> but the fridge doesn't text me for the meeting, my cal does if I add it.
[14:02] <elky> I also need to not get distracted by shoes.
[14:02] <elky> These meetings unfortunately coincide with late-night shopping for here.
[14:02] <nigelb> heh
[18:53] <pleia2> AlanBell: yeah, I'm on vacation and it looks like hypatia forgot, sorry about the meeting fail :(
[18:53] <hypatia> oh crap
[18:53] <hypatia> meeting?
[18:53] <hypatia> :(
[18:55] <AlanBell> there wasn't much to discuss anyhow
[18:57] <AlanBell> totally up to you when the next meeting is, I just wanted to point out where it would naturally fall in relation to UDS and let you think now about when best to schedule the next meeting(s)
[18:57]  * hypatia nods
[18:57] <hypatia> worth thinking about


[04:33] <dhana013> HI
[04:34] <dhana013> Hi guys. I want make custom distro. It's based on ubuntu derivative. but not depends on ubuntu
[04:35] <dhana013> How to compile source code from scratch
[04:35] <dhana013> make deb packages, please guide me.
[04:36] <benonsoftware> dhana013: Maybe #ubuntu-devel might be better, also next week we have the Ubuntu Dev Week so see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[04:37] <dhana013> thanks benonsoftware
[04:38] <benonsoftware> No worries
[05:27] <mani990> hello
[18:06] <ingenium> hi
[18:10] <ingenium> re
[18:38] <Rehhoff> Anyone here ?
[18:40] <Zta> Say "OMG!" if you got here though OMG! Ubuntu ;)
[18:41] <pleia2> no classes going on right now, the next event is developer week: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[18:41] <Rehhoff> OMG !


[02:24] <edgy> Hi, when I do sudo unattended-upgrades it won't do any upgrade, is this a bug?
[05:39] <X-tonic> Hi, I would like to request eclipse 4.2 to be included in 12.10. But it cannot make it to debian unstable yet as they are waiting for wheezy to take shape and release. (That is what they told me) . Is there anyway the debian can come directly to ubuntu then?
[05:45] <jbicha> X-tonic: that's already been requested in bug 1019273
[05:46] <jbicha> it could happen for 12.10 but I wouldn't expect it until 13.04 as eclipse is a complicated package
[08:34] <X-tonic> About python3, I read in planet.ubuntu.com that there is an intention of having py3 as default py in 12.10. Is this something we can expect soon?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:42] <mcamaret> I just installed quantal alpha 2, and installed updates, but apparently that broke compiz, because I log in to my desktop background only, and when I log out with Ctrl+Alt+Delete the dialog has no border. Unity 2d is fine, and apt-get says a bunch of packages, including compiz, are held back.
[13:52] <jbicha> mcamaret: you'll probably need to do a dist-upgrade but pay attention to what is being proposed for removal
[14:11] <mcamaret> jbicha: thanks, worked.
[15:48] <arielsanflo> as placing the ubuntu repositories 12.10 from terminal
[15:48] <arielsanflo> help
[15:49] <Pici> I don't understand the question.
[15:49] <arielsanflo> origins of software does not work
[15:52] <arielsanflo> here are repositories that I do not want to work
[15:53] <arielsanflo> In short I want to make only the official repositories
[15:54] <arielsanflo> my english is so so
[15:54] <arielsanflo> i am from colombia
[15:54] <IdleOne> arielsanflo: Can you put /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu.com and give us the URL please
[15:57] <arielsanflo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1106634/
[15:58] <IdleOne> arielsanflo: ok. You want to go back to 12.04?
[15:58] <arielsanflo> I appreciate your help
[15:59] <IdleOne> arielsanflo: ok. You want to go back to 12.04?
[16:00] <arielsanflo>   I want to continue with ubuntu 12.10 but with nothing more official repsitorios
[16:01] <arielsanflo> sorry my English is not very good
[16:01] <IdleOne> I am not sure I understand. tell me in Spanish exactly what you want to do please.
[16:01] <Daekdroom> I think he wants to use nothing but official repositories.
[16:01] <Daekdroom> Which apparently he's already doing.
[16:01] <Daekdroom> (given upgrading disables PPAs and all)
[16:02] <IdleOne> Daekdroom: that is what I am thinking also but I rather be sure :)
[16:02] <arielsanflo> quiero tener solo los repositorios oficiales
[16:03] <bazhang> yep
[16:03] <arielsanflo> no me funciona el icono de origenes del software por eso no puedo editarlos
[16:05] <IdleOne> arielsanflo: quita esa 2 lineas del fijero: deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/ubuntu quantal main # disabled on upgrade to quantal y deb-src http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/ubuntu quantal main # disabled on upgrade to quantal
[16:06] <IdleOne> after you delete those 2 lines, save the file and then close the Update manager/Software Centre. Then open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get update
[16:07] <arielsanflo> yes
[16:08] <arielsanflo> muchas gracias
[16:08] <IdleOne> denada O es nalga!? :)
[16:09] <arielsanflo> no entiiedo porque origenes del software no me funcina
[16:09] <Daekdroom> Aren't they changing that along with jockey?
[16:10] <IdleOne> Daekdroom: I heard they are. I saw mockups, looks good.
[16:10] <Daekdroom> Also, someone needs to explain to him he should expect things to stop working every update in awhile.
[16:13] <arielsanflo> ahora miren el error que me sale
[16:13] <arielsanflo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1106652/
[16:13] <Daekdroom> Oh, there are PPAs to disable as well.
[16:14] <IdleOne> eso repositorios estan en /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:14] <IdleOne> dijo PPA
[16:16] <arielsanflo> y como los elimino
[16:17] <IdleOne> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* && sudo apt-get update
[16:19] <arielsanflo> yo en verdad agradezco mucho ayuda
[16:19] <IdleOne> you are welcome :)
[16:19] <arielsanflo> aqui en colombia muy poca gente colabora en resolver problemas  de ubuntu
[16:21] <IdleOne> arielsanflo: I am happy that you were able to fix your problem. Please remember this channel is English only. I apologize to the channel for going off-language.
[16:22] <arielsanflo> yes
[16:22] <arielsanflo> im understand
[16:23] <arielsanflo> fine thanks
[16:24] <arielsanflo> how install eclipse juno 4.2 en ubuntu 12.10
[16:28] <micahg> might want to subscribe to bug 1019273
[17:03] <arielsanflo> help
[17:03] <arielsanflo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1106761/
[17:04] <arielsanflo> how to solve this error
[17:08] <trism> arielsanflo: bug 1026066
[18:02] <trijntje> Hi all, i'm trying to upgrade to quantal with update-manager -d, but it crashes. Is there another way to upgrade?
[18:40] <AlexM2013> can someone tell me if this is working: mgh2server.tk
[18:40] <IdleOne> bsm117532: Welcome to the 12.10 discussion and support channel. let me remind you that we are all volunteers and also that swearing is not acceptable for any reason.
[18:41] <IdleOne> AlexM2013: yes it is working. Please use #test for testing.
[18:41] <bsm117532> I'm having problems with the Quantal kernel recognizing my (usb) keyboard.  Doesn't work on the console and no numlock.  Any clues why this would happen?
[18:42] <bsm117532> I've also tried the 3.4.6 kernel from the mainline PPA, same problem.
[18:42] <trism> bsm117532: do you have linux-image-extra installed as well? mine will not work without the extra modules
[18:42] <bsm117532> These are kernels installed on Precise.  Has something important changed with Quantal?
[18:43] <bsm117532> trism: no...what's in "extra"?
[18:43] <trism> bsm117532: many of the modules were split out into a separate package in quantal
[18:43] <bsm117532> Aha, ok I'll try that, thanks!
[20:43] <RyuGuns> Will "Web Apps" be default in Quetzel?
[20:46] <trism> RyuGuns: http://blog.canonical.com/2012/07/19/introducing-ubuntu-web-apps-setting-the-web-free-of-the-browser/ (answer at the bottom, short answer yes apparently)
[20:46] <RyuGuns> Thanks!
[22:07] <munzir> Hi, my system do an fsck with every reboot and syslog contains: EXT4-fs warning (device dm-2): ext4_clear_journal_err:4281: Filesystem error recorded from previous mount: IO failure


[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75055 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Sata disk not identified during install (Ati sb600)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75055
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75056 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "Depends" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75056
[12:26] <chantra> hey there
[12:26] <chantra> I found a bug in gnome-btdownload
[12:27] <chantra> but this is because gnome-btdownload can't import successfully BitTorrent.decode and BitTorrent.bencode
[12:27] <chantra> should I report in to gnome-btdownload or python?
[12:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75057 in gnome-panel (main) "Gnome-panel freezes regularly during use - no applets running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75057
[12:30] <chantra> okie, I think I founded a similar bug under python-defaults
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75058 in mgetty (main) "faxrunqd hangs on /etc/init.d/mgetty-fax stop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75058
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75059 in firefox (main) "crash while downloading iso images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75059
[12:52] <LaserJock> geeze, this channel is a little depressing ;-)
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75060 in banshee (universe) "Importing lots of files makes Banshee stall and quit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75060
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75061 in firefox (main) "Crash when accessing link within page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75061
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75062 in sear (universe) "sear crashed, clicked on the game a few times, and it crashed during gameplay." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75062
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75063 in grub (main) "Text Ver - Download Failed - "Cancel" does not exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75063
[02:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75064 in pymol (universe) "[Sync Request]  pymol 0.98+0.99rc6-2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75064
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75065 in Ubuntu "Nvidia kernel causes blank gdm screen, may lock X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75065
[03:08] <crimsun> nvidia...kernel?
[03:12] <somerville32> lol
[03:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75067 in yelp (main) "Yelp closes after 3 seconds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75067
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75068 in apt (main) "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75068
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75066 in munin (universe) "munin-graph - High CPU usage (99.9%)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75066
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75069 in meta-kde (main) "DCOP server not running on login." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75069
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75070 in dovecot (main) "After upgrade to dovecot 1.0.beta3-3ubuntu5.4 postgres cant access  /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75070
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75071 in qwik (universe) "[Sync Request]  qwik <IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75071
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75072 in rasmol (universe) "[Sync Request]  rasmol <IP_ADDRESS>.1-5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75072
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75073 in adept (main) "missing conflicts or replaces: lines in splt out packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75073
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75074 in Ubuntu "eject cd doesn't work and "just should"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75074
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75075 in ssystem (universe) "[Sync Request]  ssystem 1.6-17" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75075
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75076 in openoffice.org (main) "Bullets and Numbering Toolbar buttons stay highlighted." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75076
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75077 in tkcvs (universe) "[Sync Request]  tkcvs 8.0.3-3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75077
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75078 in typo3-dummy (universe) "[Sync Request]  typo3-dummy 4.0.2-2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75078
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75079 in typo3-src (universe) "[Sync Request]  typo3-src 4.0.2+debian-1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75079
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75080 in Ubuntu "nfs server documentation needs addition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75080
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75081 in xdrawchem (universe) "[Sync Request]  xdrawchem 1.9.9-3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75081
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75082 in libkdtree++ (universe) "Can't compile with g++-4.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75082
[07:14] <dfarning> morning gents
[07:15] <dfarning> How do I report a bug against launchpad?
[07:18] <crimsun> against launchpad itself?
[07:24] <yamal> it is/was possible somehow... #72282 was initially filed against it
[07:31] <Ubug2> New bug: #75084 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "wbsd.ko hangs amd64 kernel due to wrong DMA memory allocation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75084
[07:46] <crimsun> well, yes, it's definitely possible, but I'm still awaiting dfarning's answer.
[07:50] <Ubug2> New bug: #75085 in nautilus (main) "choosing an option from the Places menu spawns x instances of Nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75085
[08:46] <Ubug2> New bug: #75086 in giftoxic (universe) "Crashed after i started" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75086
[08:56] <Ubug2> New bug: #75087 in knetworkmanager (main) "Logs oddly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75087
[09:06] <Ubug2> New bug: #75088 in Ubuntu "When I log out Kubuntu unmounts two partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75088
[09:20] <Ubug2> New bug: #75090 in mgetty (main) "Patch for previously unsupported chipset" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75090
[09:25] <Ubug2> New bug: #75089 in gnome-session (main) "Edgy doesn't save sessions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75089
[09:25] <Ubug2> New bug: #75091 in xfdesktop4 (main) "Some mountable devices not shown on desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75091
[09:35] <Ubug2> New bug: #75092 in gtkhtml3.8 (main) "[patch]  crash in htmlgdkpainter.c (oftenly kills evolution)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75092
[10:41] <Ubug2> New bug: #75093 in toolchain-source (universe) "removal request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75093
[11:01] <Ubug2> New bug: #75095 in nautilus (main) "Multiple unwanted instances of application" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75095
[11:11] <Ubug2> New bug: #75096 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "gnome-panel crash with right click" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75096
[11:20] <Ubug2> New bug: #75097 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu Dapper/Edgy can't mount some CD-Drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75097
[11:20] <Ubug2> New bug: #75098 in kdelibs (main) "Kubuntu should include nscd DNS cache deamon by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75098
[11:25] <Ubug2> New bug: #75099 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "update-alternatives of sun-java5-plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75099
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75100 in ubiquity (main) "Installer from ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75100
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75101 in alacarte (main) "adding,checking or delete dont work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75101
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75103 in alsa-driver (main) "dirty alsa-base" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75103
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75104 in human-theme (main) "Status Bars Not Displaying Progress" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75104
[11:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75102 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "display flickering problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75102
[11:59] <crimsun> "dirty alsa-base"?
[11:59] <crimsun> um...
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75105 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Unable to start Thunderbird when change theme to 'B6'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75105
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69298 in ubiquity (main) "The installer crashed (Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft)" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69298
[12:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75106 in wavsplit (universe) "Does not support 64bit systems." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75106
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75107 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "No SMP in linux-image-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75107
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75108 in Ubuntu "HD install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75108
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75109 in firefox (main) "fermeture de FF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75109
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75110 in texmacs (universe) "texmacs Applications menu entry in wrong category" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75110
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75112 in gaim (main) "a crash report is generated after re-login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75112
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75113 in alsa-driver (main) "No default card due to preventing USB card from getting index 0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75113
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75114 in Ubuntu "Please sync postgresql-8.2 from Debian experimental" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75114
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75115 in vlc (universe) "vlc crashes when trying to access SAP announcements playlist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75115
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71460 in postgresql-8.1 (main) "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71460
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75116 in vte (main) "libvte9 does not provide libvte.so symlink" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75116
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75117 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash opening ods file in ubuntu 6.10 after latest upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75117
[02:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68869 in ubiquity (main) "The GUI installer in the Edgy Desktop CD does not recognize unformated partition as the root partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68869
[02:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71821 in ubiquity (main) "Installing Edgy on existing SuSE partitions fails: No rootfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71821
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69034 in postgresql-8.1 (main) "createuser -d broken" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69034
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75120 in gnome-art (universe) "program crash after menu click." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75120
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75118 in anjuta (universe) "Script assumes bashism" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75118
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75119 in evolution (main) "[Feisty]  evolution 2.9.3 crashes when I click on any task in list view of tasks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75119
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75121 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "vesa selected as default instead of nv on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75121
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75122 in epiphany-browser (main) "opening links from History" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75122
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75123 in dates (universe) "copying events" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75123
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75124 in Ubuntu "IAX phones not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75124
[03:26] <Czubek> Hi all.
[03:26] <Czubek> Looks like i have bug in package from main :/
[03:26] <Czubek> http://wklej.org/id/90abd394ad
[03:33] <Czubek> is anyone here maintaining console-tools?
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75125 in ubiquity (main) "Problem install ubuntu over corrupted installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75125
[03:41] <CarlFK> bug #71280
[03:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71280 in firefox "crash url" [Low,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71280
[03:41] <CarlFK> someone here had a xorg setting that would fix that
[03:43] <ivoks> flash?
[03:44] <ivoks> nvidia/ati card?
[03:45] <ivoks> anyway, you should disable composite if you have nvidia/ati card and if you are using non-free driver
[03:46] <ivoks> non-free driver + non-free flash plugin + composite = firefox crash
[03:46] <ivoks> yes, that's one more reason not to have non-free drivers by default :)
[03:51] <Czubek> bug in package from main which is totally blocking apt is pretty critical? Isn't it?
[03:52] <Czubek> Especially in LTS?
[03:52] <ivoks> huh?
[03:52] <ivoks> i just installed LTS and no such bug
[03:53] <Czubek> ivoks: no, i mean that what im suffering now.
[03:53] <ivoks> Czubek: it's really hard to read polish if you aren't from poland :)
[03:54] <Czubek> I think there is way to tell aptitude to prints output in english but i don't know.
[03:54] <ivoks> Czubek: what's the last line in file /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-tools.list
[03:55] <Czubek> ivoks: it's binary file.
[03:56] <ivoks> Czubek: that's wrong. this file shouldn't be binary
[03:56] <ivoks> you have corupted filesystem
[03:56] <Czubek> ivoks: :/
[03:57] <Czubek> so what should I do now?
[03:57] <ivoks> Czubek: i could send you that file, if you want
[03:57] <ivoks> replace it, finish install and check your filesystem
[03:57] <Czubek> from dapper?
[03:57] <ivoks> yes
[03:57] <Czubek> Ok.
[03:58] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/console-tools.list
[03:59] <ivoks> apt-get --reinstall install console-tools would probably fix it :/
[04:03] <Czubek> ivoks: looks like bc.list has input/output error :/
[04:04] <Czubek>  nie mona otworzy listy plikw pakietu `bc': Bd wejcia/wyjcia
[04:04] <Czubek> Damn, i think i must take out root privileges from my sister account :/
[04:07] <Czubek> ivoks: could you send me bc.list too?
[04:08] <ivoks> uploaded
[04:08] <ivoks> same url
[04:12] <Czubek> ivoks: omg, libsepol1 too.
[04:13] <ivoks> i can't send you files all the time :)
[04:13] <ivoks> try apt-get --reinstall install libsepol1
[04:15] <Czubek> ivoks: thanks, but no result.
[04:16] <Czubek> ivoks: maybe i will copy all .list files from live cd?
[04:16] <ivoks> delete that file then
[04:17] <Czubek> when i deleted it, another problem occurs with base-passwd, so I, thin more files are corrupted that way.
[04:21] <Czubek> ivoks: do You think that idea with livecd is good? Or it's something stupid?
[04:21] <ivoks> you can't fix that with livecd
[04:22] <ivoks> you can fix it with removing all *.lists and reinstalling all packages :)
[04:22] <ivoks> *.list
[04:26] <Ubugtu> WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas.
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75126 in pouetchess (universe) "sudden crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75126
[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75127 in Ubuntu "The module Disk and Filesystems could not be loaded error msg" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75127
[04:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75128 in twisted (main) "Requires GTK 1.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75128
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69360 in firefox (main) "ubuntu 6.10: firefox 2.0 crashed during a login session" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69360
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75130 in Ubuntu "Import or not to import... that is the question." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75130
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68873 in firefox (main) "Crash after closing after installing Java from Ubuntu" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68873
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68931 in firefox (main) "Ubuntu 6.10 firefox crashes during hotmail" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68931
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69282 in firefox (main) "Crash while selecting a file for upload" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69282
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69315 in firefox (main) "random crash" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69315
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75129 in firefox (main) "Firefox has closed after trying to "save as" on right button menu mouse on https page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75129
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69174 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when moving g-calendar entry " [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69174
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75132 in gnome-panel (main) "Crash when right-clicking on application incorrectly shown on all desktops" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75132
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69413 in firefox (main) "Crash closing game in pogo" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69413
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71440 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed; adduser: No space left on device." [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71440
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71564 in ubiquity (main) "I get this message when trying to install ubumtu??" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71564
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75133 in pouetchess (universe) "crach again" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75133
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73461 in avahi (main) "avahi-daemon init.d script does not start avahi-daemon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73461
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71922 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed unexpectedly" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71922
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75134 in asciijump (universe) "Seqmentation fault after landing." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75134
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75135 in Ubuntu "installation fails due to tty error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75135
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71548 in firefox (main) "crash unexpectly" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71548
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71652 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash after pressing the Back Button" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71652
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71718 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when drilling thru web page menus at http://www.sony.com/index.php" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71718
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75136 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed - advised to post here the following" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75136
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69081 in ubiquity (main) "ubuntu edgy installer crashed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69081
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75137 in treeviewx (universe) "Program crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75137
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75138 in mouseemu (universe) "Intermittent click problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75138
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75139 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed when installing on a MacBook Pro (Intel core)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75139
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68882 in ubiquity (main) "Installercrashed" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68882
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75140 in wvdial (main) "System hangs during the configuration of wvdial if Roland sc88-pro midi module is present." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75140
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75141 in www-sql (universe) "[Sync Request]  www-sql 0.5.7-20" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75141
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75142 in dmraid (universe) "merge: new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75142
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75143 in firefox (main) "System logs out when opening Video with Firefox using Totem-Xine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75143
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75144 in k3d (universe) "Doesn't install correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75144
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75146 in xorg (main) "Upgrade to 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 breaks AGP / xinerama " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75146
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75147 in azureus (universe) "[Not start]   wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 - java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /opt/azureus/libswt-pi-gtk-3232.so" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75147
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75148 in base-installer (main) "Herd 1 (I386) Desktop CD fails with SATA as AHCI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75148
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75149 in xorg (main) "Palm TX connecting on USB does not have consistent device name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75149
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75150 in mdadm (main) "mdadm asks a lot of dumb questions on upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75150
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75151 in gedit (main) "Refuses to open files where the character encoding is not recognised" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75151
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75152 in ubuntu-meta (main) "[feisty]  [bidi]  closing brackets changes place in mixed rtl/ltr text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75152
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75153 in k3b (main) "k3b starts up after a very long time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75153
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75154 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75154
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75155 in firefox (main) "Random crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75155
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75156 in vnc-java (multiverse) "/usr/bin/jvncviewer uses incorrect bourne shell: error in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75156
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75157 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "noexec doesn't apply on 32-bit AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75157
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75158 in xfce4 (universe) "[Edgy] &[Feisty]  Failed to open /usr/share/xfce4/COPYING when clicking on About Xfce" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75158
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75159 in gnome-panel (main) "all panel objects of type != launcher disappeared after drag&drop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75159
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75161 in Ubuntu "HP Pavilion dv9000t Core 2 Duo won't boot when wireless switch is disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75161
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75160 in apport (main) "Apport crashed after a crash on pouetchess" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75160
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75162 in sound-juicer (main) "Crashes when ripping audio in a personalized profile" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75162
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75164 in firefox (main) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75164
[10:16] <finalbeta> When I go to launchpad, pick feisty - Bugs, it shows there are no open bugs. people using Feisty hert 1, where should we be reporting problems? Or should we not.
[10:20] <Adri2000> finalbeta: you should, in launchpad
[10:20] <finalbeta> Ok. thnx
[10:21] <Adri2000> it's just that people file bugs in "ubuntu", not "ubuntu feisty"
[10:22] <finalbeta> Adri2000, The default soundcard is switching between my TV card and onboard card, both are default 50% of the boots. Under what should I report that? In Dapper the onboard soundcard always seemed to get default.
[10:23] <Adri2000> finalbeta: I don't know
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75165 in gnome-applets (main) "volume applet don't work on my laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75165
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75166 in grub (main) "InstallStepError: GrubInstaller failed with code 1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75166
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75168 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes after clicking on a link to downoad a (large) file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75168
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75169 in adasockets (universe) "merge: new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75169
[11:39] <LaserJock> Jozo-: you around?


[12:15] <coalwater> anybody alive here?
[12:43] <duanedesign> just me :)
[12:43] <duanedesign> i think /me checks pulse
[19:39] <yeehi1> during installation of precise, I believe there is no option available for "physical volume for encryption". I want to create an encrypted partition. How do I do this?
[19:52] <raub> yeehi1: try using the alternate install or the server ISO
[19:52] <yeehi1> thanks, raub
[19:57] <isiah> yo wilee-nilee
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> howdeee
[20:00] <isiah> I got an odd problem tonight. I have a hd that is running a bunch of NFS. The data is not actually important but the configuration fo the hard drive is. Trying to figure out the best way that I can replace the hd do to sudden failure.
[21:15] <neldolux> salam
[22:02] <bill_gill_> i'm looking for help with bluetooth headset and pulseaudio
[22:28] <bill_gill_> hello
[23:14] <SilentBot> Hello, anyone in here that knows why my windows 8 partitions are not showing to the installer?


[11:57] <jea> jared: around?
[11:57] <jared> jea: eating dinner and catching up on emails, how can I help
[11:58] <jea> did you see the latest translations email?
[11:58] <jared> Yeah it's been an ongoing saga for that group
[11:59] <jea> The email from the other person in this is interesting reading.
[11:59] <jared> Apparently someone has been doing questionable translations in open teams.
[11:59] <jea> For once we see the other side of the story
[11:59] <jared> Ah, I didn't really look into it too greatly, is there anything interesting?
[12:00] <jea> He basically says that the person who has been really vocal recently came in to the team, appointed himself admin, added his friend, made his friend an admin
[12:00] <jea> and then they decided they didn't like his translations, which had been there for a while, and kicked him out
[12:00] <jea> then they just did the same for mint translations
[12:01] <jea> which has resulted in the guy leaving launchpad, ubuntu and mint altogether, because he can't stand being pushed out all the time
[12:03] <jared> It's hard to know without understanding if the translations were valid or not I guess.
[12:03] <jea> Yes, I would really like to get an independent third party to review them
[12:04] <jared> If the translations were poor than it's a bit unfortunate. But if they were of a reasonable standard than it's a travesty.
[12:04] <jea> because it is sad to see someone leave if they haven't done much wrong
[12:10] <jared> jea: yeah, it's frustrating not having enough info to make a determination
[12:11] <jea> I do find it interesting that that team now seems to be run by 'professional translators' (a commercial company)
[12:11] <jea> if true, it seems a bit unusual
[12:11] <jared> Seems like they want to run it so they can promote/sell localised versions
[12:12] <jea> yes, it sounds like that
[12:12] <jea> and if it is selling, then I would prefer to see the other guy back again, regardless of his apparent lack of ability


[02:09] <mwhudson> hmm
[02:10] <mwhudson> sbuild on bionic for me is behaving like debian builders: only considering the first option if there are alternatives
[02:10] <mwhudson> ubuntu builders aren't like that are they?
[02:10] <mwhudson> or am i misremembering
[02:19] <mwhudson> ah yes $resolve_alternatives = 1 in sbuildrc in launchpad-buildd
[02:30] <jbicha> mwhudson: file a wishlist bug for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sbuild-launchpad-chroot ?
[02:32] <mwhudson> jbicha: i don't think that's used any more
[02:32] <mwhudson> i guess i could and manybe should file a bug asking for it to be removed from the archive
[02:37] <jbicha> mwhudson: please don't. I use it
[02:37] <jbicha> unless you have a reason why I shouldn't…
[02:37] <mwhudson> maybe i misunderstand what it is
[02:37] <mwhudson> i know for ages launchpad used a fork of sbuild
[02:38] <mwhudson> but i don't think it does any more
[02:38] <jbicha> it's a tool to help set up sbuild locally to be a bit more like the launchpad builders
[02:38] <mwhudson> ah ok it's not that
[05:41] <mapreri> jbicha: btw, I'm following after pylint stuff in debian.  do expect me to follow up in ubuntu as well (I saw you synced at least two related packages - including one that ftbfs because you didn't sync another one)
[05:44] <mapreri> (and py3.7 stuff in general)
[06:27] <RAOF> Huh.
[06:27] <RAOF> Why is Mir still in main?
[06:28] <RAOF> I thought that packages that were not seeded and did not have any rdepends in main were auto-demoted to universe?
[06:28] <RAOF> Or, at least, would show up on component-mismatches?
[06:36] <RAOF> Oh, it's in supported.
[06:44] <tjaalton> you're not off the hook ;)
[09:29] <ximion> jbicha: if you have time, can you maybe initiate libundead to be dropped from armhf? As I wrote in my email, this should unblock the LDC migration we are receiving mails about
[09:30] <ximion> the culprit is an LLVM bug tracked as https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=908670 which appoarently won't be fixed in time
[09:31] <ximion> (nothing depends on the library on armhf AFAIK, so it's safe to drop - debian has an arch-specific RM request already
[09:31] <ximion> )
[09:31] <ximion> :P
[10:26] <sladen> alterjsive: any updates on  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1794318  ?
[11:05] <alterjsive> sladen: I 'm curious what would happen if I would install a new kernel right after the installation, without upgrading new packages
[11:21] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: I'm debating backporting ghostscript 9.25 to our stable releases all the way back to trusty. Are there any known issues with 9.25, and do you think I'll hit any problems doing so?
[11:22] <sladen> alterjsive: yeah we are curious too.  But, in the mean-time, please provide the debugging information needed
[11:24] <alterjsive> sladen: I don't have much time now but if you have a quick question, I can awnser it. I will look at the information request in the launchpad issue tonight
[11:31] <sladen> alterjsive: a quick question is, how was the IMSM RAID setup.  Was this done purely in the BIOS (before the original-original any Ubuntu install had happened)
[11:32] <sladen> alterjsive: mdadm --detail-platform    should show the IMSM config
[11:32] <alterjsive> sladen: yes it's configured in the bios only. My understanding is that fake raid means configured by the bios.
[11:34] <alterjsive> sladen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1794318/comments/14
[11:34] <sladen> alterjsive: and on this machine it was *only* configured via the BIOS
[11:34] <alterjsive> sladen: yes
[11:35] <sladen> alterjsive: thank you (x2).  Please could you also upload the output of  mdadm --assemble --scan
[11:35] <alterjsive> it's empty
[11:38] <sladen> alterjsive:  mdadm --examine /dev/sd[a-z]
[11:40] <alterjsive> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1794318/comments/16
[11:41] <xnox> alterjsive, "fake raid means configured by the bios" yes and no. mdadm fully knows how to operate on the intel drives; and can create them, change, monitor them, etc.
[11:41] <xnox> alterjsive, cause it knows how to talk to the intel raid chipset....
[11:41] <xnox> bios can configure it too usually
[11:42] <alterjsive> cool
[11:42] <xnox> alterjsive, it looks like your motherboard / bios is borked up.
[11:42] <xnox> alterjsive, and you should reconfigure reshape from raid1 to raid0
[11:43] <alterjsive> borked up?
[11:43] <xnox> alterjsive, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rsVcy6Vd22/
[11:43] <xnox> is output for me
[11:43] <xnox> granted my firmware version appears to be old/out of date (no longer receiving OEM motherboard firmware updates)
[11:44] <xnox> but I do have RAID Levels : raid0 raid1 raid10 raid5
[11:44] <xnox> alterjsive, possibly poke things in bios, to see why raid1 is not available.... or like disabled....
[11:44] <sladen> ahhh, okay, the chipset is saying it can't do raid0
[11:45] <sladen> but raid1 was clearly setup, and is reported in the actual mdadm --examine  scan.  And was (probably) working just fine
[11:45] <alterjsive> It's currently configured for mirror raid
[11:45] <xnox> alterjsive, if you are using the brand new VROC (you don't appear to, because you don't have nvme) note that one has to buy an optional hardware key and intel hard-drives to enable NVMe
[11:45] <alterjsive> I can select raid 0 too
[11:45] <sladen> but some new check/validation in the new version of mdadm is then deciding that because raid1 doesn't apepar in the list, the raid1 mapper instance can't be setup
[11:45] <xnox> alterjsive, sladen - configured yes.... but that's simply the metadata on the drives. i believe it's not actually syncing across the two as one expects from raid1
[11:46] <xnox> sladen, which is safe.
[11:46] <xnox> alterjsive, you don't appear to have raid1 capability - or the hard-drives you have plugged in are discredited from able to do raid1
[11:47] <alterjsive> xnox: i had to select a master and a slave. My hard disks appear to be exactly the same
[11:47] <xnox> alterjsive, i guess the best you can do, is seek support from your motherboard manufacturer.
[11:47] <sladen> alterjsive: please can you take a photo from the BIOS of what *it* thinks the capabilities are
[11:47] <xnox> alterjsive, and they plugged into the intel raid enabled ports? at least on my motherboard only some ports are hooked up.
[11:48] <sladen> alterjsive: so that we can see if there's a difference between what the BIOS sees of its own capabilities, and what mdadm --detail-platform sees as the capabilities
[11:48] <alterjsive> sladen: I did a raid checkup using windows intel raid drivers. it said it was functioning normally
[11:48] <xnox> you have windows installed too on this raid?
[11:48] <xnox> horum.
[11:49] <alterjsive> no, on a diffrent disk, but I formatted my hdd to ext4 recently and strangly it messed up my windows boot. It's no longer listed.
[11:49] <sladen> alterjsive: canother possibility, do certain RAID mode change when the two newer disks were plugged in.  Where they plugged in *after* the initial IMSM setup of the first two disks
[11:51] <alterjsive> sda, sdb and sdd are ssd's. sdc is hdd. sda & sdb are in mirror raid , sda is a master and sdb is slave
[11:52] <alterjsive> I installed windows on sdd and when I repartionioned sdc , my windows boot was messed up
[11:53] <xnox> yeah
[11:53] <xnox> and installing windows messed up your raid probably
[11:53] <xnox> you did disconnect sda & sdb from the system, when isntalling windows into sdd?
[11:53] <alterjsive> xnox: no, I didn't know it was this distructive
[11:53] <xnox> i've never managed to dual boot windows, unless i keep my intel raid unplugged when touching windows.
[11:54] <sladen> alterjsive: are you available for more in-depth debugging.  (1) reboot, take picture of BIOS config.  (2) unplug sdc and sdd.  (2) take picture of BIOS config.  (3) boot linux, take screenshot of  mdadm --detail-platform
[11:54] <xnox> alterjsive, as a fun experiment. power down unplug sdc and sdd
[11:54] <xnox> alterjsive, boot into bios, resync the raid array in the bios - until it is in sync.
[11:54] <xnox> alterjsive, then continue normal boot
[11:55] <xnox> alterjsive, check status with mdadm --detail-platform and --examine
[11:55] <xnox> alterjsive, if it's still not assembled / detail-platform gives you raid0 only, you need to contact better support - ie. mdadm upstream mailing list & your motherboard support/warranty.
[11:55] <alterjsive> I have other projects too urg, i've just bougth 4 servers for my openshift cluster :)))
[11:56] <alterjsive> ok I'll see tonight
[11:56]  * sladen shrugs
[11:56] <xnox> possibly need to check if there are any firmware upgrades
[11:56] <xnox> and possibly replace these.....
[11:56] <xnox> alterjsive, well, you can launch OnMetal instances in Rackspace cloud -> the v2 ones use Intel Raid by default.
[11:57] <xnox> alterjsive, and mdadm does work there on variety on machines. and locally for me.... it does smell like your chipset/motherboard is borked.
[11:57] <xnox> alterjsive, or like forget about this intel raid; and reinstall just using regular linux raid.
[11:57] <xnox> is the best i can suggest here.
[11:57] <xnox> alterjsive, http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-raid is the mailing list
[11:58] <xnox> for upstream mdadm
[11:58] <alterjsive> xnox: I tried raid 5 with mdadm, no luck
[11:58] <alterjsive> I tried for days, gave up in the end
[11:58] <xnox> alterjsive, mdadm asked chipset, chipset said raid0 only.
[11:58] <sladen> lets maybe debug the current issue.  Because that has the /potential/ that it might also affect a tonne of other people with real enterprisey systems
[11:59] <xnox> alterjsive, did you already tell us the specific motherboard / server this is?
[11:59] <alterjsive> not yet
[11:59] <xnox> is that confidential?
[11:59] <alterjsive> MSI GS70 gaming laptop
[12:00] <alterjsive> https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS70-2QE-Stealth-Pro/Specification
[12:01] <xnox> alterjsive, it is odd, that you are offered actual raid on it. typically the intel rapid storage on those is to do effectively bcache to accelerate hdd with an ssd which on windows side, is confusingly call the same thing, and is typically not raid
[12:02] <xnox> and in bios you should have options to select what type of drivers you want to be used for hard-drives: normal ssd or like raid.
[12:02] <sladen> well, until we have screenshots of the BIOS, we don't know what it is offered/thinks has been configured
[12:03] <alterjsive> more specific MSI Gaming Notebook GS70 2QE-046NL 17.3", 4710HQ, 1.5TB, GTX970M
[12:03] <alterjsive> ok I'll reboot 1 sec
[12:03] <sladen> alterjsive: dmicode will say more about what the laptop actually is
[12:04] <xnox> true about dmicode
[12:04] <alterjsive> dmicode?
[12:05] <sladen> alterjsive: sudo dmicode > dmidecode.txt  --> upload
[12:05] <alterjsive> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1794318
[12:05] <alterjsive> brb reboot
[12:07] <ahasenack> nacc: mwhudson: thanks (delayed, was on pto) :)
[12:12] <sladen> alterjsive: congrats on owning a "Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M."  ;-)
[12:13] <alterjsive> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1794318/comments/19
[12:13] <alterjsive> sladen: haha
[12:14] <alterjsive> sladen: I recently updated my bios too. after these problems.\
[12:20] <alterjsive> https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GS70-2QE-Stealth-Pro-4.html#down-bios
[12:21] <tkamppeter> mdeslaur, I think not. I did not hear about any regressions in 9.25.
[12:22] <sladen> so RAID Level: "Recovery (Cont.)", appears to be "Recovery Set" == RAID1
[12:23] <alterjsive> yeah seems to work fine
[12:23] <alterjsive> using the kernel that still boots
[12:24] <sladen> and the newer kernel (newer initramfs + mdadm)
[12:24] <sladen> ?
[12:25] <sladen> alterjsive: and what about these two with sdc and sdd unplugged?
[12:26] <alterjsive> I showed you the mdadm error yesterday when I boot the latest kernel
[12:26] <alterjsive> screenshot
[12:26] <alterjsive> I don't have a screwdrive to umplug the ssd's
[12:27] <alterjsive> I've got a laptop, not a rack server :)
[12:27] <alterjsive> I can check tonight
[12:27] <alterjsive> brb
[12:29] <sladen> alterjsive: yes, the question is whether there is a difference in reporting when non-RAID drives are on the same crontroller.  Hopefully not, but that's what debugging is about
[12:31] <alterjsive> sladen: ok, I will check tonight
[12:33] <sladen> xnox: there's another difference isn't there.  the mdadm used in the initramfs on bootup, is a difference mdadm used when alterjsive has run these commands and uploading
[12:35] <sladen> alterjsive: okay, please can you reboot, select "safe mode" for the *working* kernel.  then Run   mdadm --detail-platform   and take a photo
[12:36] <sladen> alterjsive: this will show what the older copy of mdadm is successfully seeing on bootup, rather than the mdadm is on the main root filesystem
[12:38] <alterjsive> sladen: I will do it tonight, I should get back to work sorry :/
[12:39] <alterjsive> maybe in a few hours
[12:52] <jbicha> mapreri: ok, I'll let you handle pylint stuff :)
[12:59] <sladen> alterjsive: can you add  cat /proc/mdstat  to the list too
[13:00] <alterjsive> using m the safe mode?
[13:01] <sladen> alterjsive: just, just in the running OS
[13:01] <alterjsive> cat /proc/mdstat
[13:01] <alterjsive> Personalities :
[13:01] <alterjsive> unused devices: <none>
[13:02] <alterjsive> could I have read somewhere that intelraid switched to another raid manager program since the latest kernel?
[13:02] <alterjsive> I can't remember
[13:03] <sladen> there was a switch from dmraid to mdadm, but ages ago
[13:04] <alterjsive> ah ok
[13:04] <alterjsive> never u mind then
[13:06] <alterjsive> I don't understand the /prod/mdstat . When I used linux mdadm to create a raid array it gave a totally diffrent output
[13:12] <sladen> alterjsive: on *this* machine?
[13:13] <alterjsive> sladen: yes, I've tried to setup raid 5 after I suddenly couldn't boot my raid 0 system with sda, sdb and sdd.
[13:15] <mapreri> jbicha: it's nearly through anyway ^^
[13:16] <mapreri> I've also uploaded a bunch of py3.7-buggy related packages in debian today, guess I'll sync them up tonight…
[13:16] <alterjsive> https://gist.github.com/samrocketman/9677ca29e0fbaab8f8e55ebc3039172a
[13:16] <sladen> alterjsive: without de-configuring the BIOS/IMSM mirroing?
[13:17] <alterjsive> sladen: I disabled raid in the bios first ofc
[13:18] <sladen> alterjsive: when was this?  A year ago, this week, yesterday?
[13:18] <alterjsive> sladen: a week ago
[13:19] <sladen> alterjsive: and how old is this RAID pair we're trying to debug?
[13:19] <sladen> alterjsive: was it created in the BIOS less than a week ago, or more than a week ago
[13:19] <alterjsive> few days old
[13:20] <sladen> alterjsive: after the RAID5 experiment, or before the RAID5 experiment
[13:21] <alterjsive> after
[13:24] <cpaelzer> doko: cyphermox: didrocks: I got minimal changes a few +1s and nothing else so I'm going to add the proposed changes to the Wiki page
[13:24] <cpaelzer> it iw a wiki after all, so we can change it if someone realized it is bad later on
[14:06] <jdstrand> cpaelzer: nice ascii art :)
[14:14] <cpaelzer> hehe
[14:14] <cpaelzer> you can even copy and modify it still :-)
[14:42] <tjaalton> LocutusOfBorg: does virtualbox run alongside libvirt these days?
[14:42] <LocutusOfBorg> who knows?
[14:42] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[14:42] <LocutusOfBorg> no idea...
[14:42] <tjaalton> ok
[14:42] <LocutusOfBorg> I know I cant run kvm and vbox together
[14:43] <LocutusOfBorg> because of some race condition on hardware virtualization
[14:43] <LocutusOfBorg> but this seems to be a cpu problem
[14:43] <tjaalton> right, ok
[14:43] <LocutusOfBorg> you mean run them together right?
[14:43] <tjaalton> yes
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg> I think this is an hardware problem, not software, the resource can't be shared
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg> but I migth be wrong, vt-x is an obscure word for me
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg> the vbox client can stay, but if I run a VM it gives error (kvm gives it)
[14:44] <tjaalton> i see there's a vbox hypervisor driver for libvirt nowadays, dunno if it'd help here
[14:45] <LocutusOfBorg> I can run many vbox instances at the same time, not really sure how
[14:52] <didrocks> cpaelzer: just reviewed your changes, looks good, thanks :)
[14:57] <cpaelzer> thank you didrocks
[16:37] <alterjsive> sladen: so you want me to disconnect the hdd's
[16:38] <alterjsive> sdd and sdc
[23:46] <xnox> sladen, it is funny, they do claim on the website to support super riad
[23:47] <xnox> Up to 768GB Super RAID 2 + 1TB HDD 7200rpm
[23:47] <sarnold> "super raid 2"??
[23:47] <sarnold> do I even want to know?
[23:47] <xnox> https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS70-2QE-Stealth-Pro/Specification
[23:47] <xnox> sarnold, intel rapid storage raid / imsm stuff -> but appears to be broken with a newer stricter mdadm.
[23:48] <xnox> grep for alterjsive in the scrollback


[08:09] <hml> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1732665
[08:09] <mup> Bug #1732665: Firewaller issues on vmware vsphere <firewaller> <vmware> <vsphere-provider> <juju:In Progress by hmlanigan> <juju 2.3:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1732665>
[15:12] <WesleyM> Hello, I'm kinda stuck on my juju deployment. I'm trying to deploy juju into my MAAS node and everytime I get the error "ERROR unable to contact api server after 1 attempts: unable to connect to API: Forbidden" does someone know the solution to this?
[16:07] <rick_h> WesleyM: can your laptop speak to the network that the maas nodes are on?
[16:08] <rick_h> WesleyM: that's usually an issue where MAAS brings up the node, installs the juju agent, but the local client (running juju bootstrap) cannot reach that new controller
[16:22] <WesleyM> Rick_H: It's all running on the same machine, my laptop is connected with a SSH connected to the machine in that range
[18:05] <bdx> heyyyo
[18:31] <bdx> for me, `juju deploy postgresql --storage pgdata=ebs,2000G` gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7bTjJ2RD2/
[18:33] <bdx> anything over 1000G seems to just hang
[18:36] <kwmonroe> bdx: does aws impose ebs limits for your account?  i know, for example, that default accounts can only spin up X machines of type Y.  curious if you have to request to get an ebs limit raised.
[18:37] <kwmonroe> either way, it'd be nice to see an error instead of waiting -- but maybe something to check on your end.
[18:37] <bdx> kwmonroe: I can create 5T, 10T vloumes via cli or aws console
[18:37] <kwmonroe> hmph
[18:37] <bdx> yeah
[18:37] <kwmonroe> and bdx, this hangs the same way whether you use 2000G vs 2T?
[18:39] <bdx> yea
[18:39] <bdx> heres my controller log http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KnjJ7PkqBn/
[18:41] <kwmonroe> thanks for a 60K line pastebin.  please hold while i watch my browser crash.
[18:57] <bdx> LOL right
[18:57] <bdx> Im surprised pastebin took it
[18:58] <bdx> mine still hasn't finished loading
[18:58] <bdx> its 10MB
[19:01] <bdx> should machine-0.log get rolled at some point?
[19:04] <bdx> logsink.log gets rolled .... but machine-0.log isn't being rolled
[21:12] <bdx> kwmonroe: I can deploy an instance `juju deploy postgresql` then add a 2000G volume and attach it manually and it works just fine
[21:12] <bdx> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jjQfbVBSmW/
[21:12] <bdx> its only when I try to use juju to preform the operation that it fails
[21:14] <kwmonroe> you're out of my league bdx.. i'm not sure what's going on when you run juju storagey things.  rick_h, who's our storage point-person?
[21:16] <bdx> I just need verification that `juju deploy postgresql --storage pgdata=ebs,2000G` fails for someone other than myself so I can get some legitimacy on this bug
[21:16] <kwmonroe> oh, hell, i can do that.. gimme a minute.
[21:17] <magicaltrout> just drop the boring data.....
[21:17] <kwmonroe> quiet you
[21:18] <magicaltrout> use juju; drop table kwmonroe;
[21:19] <bdx> this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1751909
[21:19] <mup> Bug #1751909: turn up the volume - artificial quotas? <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751909>
[21:35] <magicaltrout> i hope you're cold kjackal
[21:35] <kjackal> freezing! magicaltrout
[21:35] <magicaltrout> good
[21:35] <kjackal> Anything for you ;)
[21:36] <magicaltrout> when you see Uros... tell him he didn't reply to my email he said he'd reply to a week ago
[21:36] <magicaltrout> *sob*
[21:49] <igor> AWS deployment
[21:49] <kwmonroe> figured you out bdx... default "ebs,2T" is using the prev gen of aws storage: https://aws.amazon.com/ebs/previous-generation/
[21:50] <kwmonroe> which taps out at 1tb
[21:50] <magicaltrout> goooo kevin
[21:50] <bdx> oh what
[21:50] <kwmonroe> whatcha need to do is use the new gp2 volume type: juju create-storage-pool mybytes ebs volume-type=gp2
[21:50] <kwmonroe> juju deploy postgresql p2 --storage pgdata=mybytes,2000G
[21:50] <bdx> oh dude
[21:50] <kwmonroe> er, s/p2//
[21:51] <bdx> you are the man!
[21:51] <igor> AWS kubernetes cluster deployed with juju
[21:51] <kwmonroe> i know, right?
[21:51] <bdx> dude
[21:51] <magicaltrout> igor: you need to formulate a question with those words
[21:51] <bdx> aha
[21:51] <igor> Unable to mount volumes for pod
[21:52] <igor> this is the error when when I try to deploy wordpress chart
[21:52] <igor> the cluster looks good and functional
[21:53] <kwmonroe> bdx: that should unblock you, but the bug you opened is still relevant in that i think surely there's a message at the provider saying why 2tb can't be fulfilled.  we should capture that and inform the user (vs waiting around like log bumps)
[21:54] <igor> docker image deployed fine, but failing when it's claiming storage in cluster. the cluster has dedicated controller as per juju deployment wizard
[21:56] <igor> any post configs that should/can be applied to fix  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qXCr2sly/image.png
[22:00] <igor> magicaltrout: woulkd this be the right forum for juju kubernetes deployer in AWS
[22:02] <magicaltrout> yeah igor although i'm not very familiar with it personally
[22:02] <kwmonroe> yup igor, you're in the right place... ryebot, any ideas on igor's "unable to mount volumes for pod" when deploying a wordpress chart with k8s/aws?
[22:02]  * ryebot catches up
[22:04] <ryebot> Hmm let me take a look at something
[22:04] <igor> sure
[22:06] <ryebot> igor: What kind of storage are you using?
[22:06] <TheAbsentOne> Hey guys, to fully understand how juju (and the reactive framework) fundamentally work I want to recreate the phpmyadmin charm to the reactive framework and find out a way to log all the hooks and processes the juju controller makes. Any tips on how to approach this, or anyone knows some other sources or documentation then the juju docs site?
[22:07] <igor> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VatLAPJW/
[22:08] <ryebot> igor: looks like it's pending - did you set up a persistent volume?
[22:08] <igor> ryebot:  volume.alpha.kubernetes.io/storage-class: standard and I've tried with volume.alpha.kubernetes.io/storage-class: default
[22:08] <igor> no sure
[22:08] <igor> how do I check?
[22:09] <ryebot> igor: You'd know, I think.
[22:09] <ryebot> igor: I think you'll need to use native integration and EBS like this: https://docs.conjure-up.io/devel/en/cni/k8s-and-aws#how-to-setup-ebs-for-kubernetes
[22:09] <igor> this is sample chart to test deployment
[22:10] <TheAbsentOne> can you mount manually on aws? (are you sure where the problem resides?)
[22:11] <igor> you mean from container itself manually?
[22:12] <ryebot> igor: conjure-up can set up native integration for you
[22:13] <igor> great ryebot: should I just follow your link to the doc above to do that?
[22:14] <TheAbsentOne> yeah, just a random thought though, nvm it actually it's late for me xD
[22:19] <ryebot> igor: Yeah I'd perform an installation with conjure-up to enable the cloud integration for aws and follow those instructions such that they fit with what you're trying to do.
[22:29] <bdx> kwmonroe: sc1 | st1 .... not on juju's terms
[22:33] <igor> ryebot:  just did that and got the same  error
[22:33] <igor> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nLn64W5s/image.png
[22:33] <bdx> kwmonroe: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2rnz86Q2pS/
[22:40] <bdx> support for st1 and sc1 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1753593
[22:40] <mup> Bug #1753593: support st1 and sc1 ebs volume-types <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753593>
[22:42] <kwmonroe> ack bdx, that was a wag on my part.  so it seems for now you'll need to use a new pool with gp2 (or possibly use the default ebs-ssd pool) if you want to get > 1tb.  i'm guessing that's not great for the pocketbook :/
[22:42] <kwmonroe> +1 on your latest comment in that bug
[22:44] <bdx> totally .... I only *need* this 5T elasticsearch for the next 2 weeks I think, so I'm not to worried, but going forward it will be super nice having st1 and sc1 for sure
[22:45] <bdx> got me unblocked though - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qJ62FFH6KR/
[22:46] <bdx> I dont even know if the st1 or sc1 would support the iops for this es ... Im going to see how that ^ m5.2xlarge with the 5T gp2 holds up
[22:46] <bdx> hooking it up now
[22:48] <kwmonroe> ugh bdx, next time tell me *before* you run these kinds of models.. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AMZN/ -- i'm assuming your tomfoolery drove AMZN up +23 today.
[22:51] <bdx> darn .... that really makes me want to run this somewhere else
[22:54]  * bdx (just angry I don't have any shares)
[22:57] <magicaltrout> shares? doesn't everyone buy bitcoin these days?
[22:57] <magicaltrout> ICO's baby *\o/*
[22:57] <igor> ryebot: I've installed with conjure-up kubernetes and select AWS
[22:58] <igor> is there anything else to do during/after install to enable the cloud integration?
[23:00] <igor> I've got dedicated controller node and 14 cluster nodes build fine in AWS
[23:26] <igor> ryebot: looks like AWS permissions are fine:
[23:26] <igor> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/42gzgUqV/


[04:25] <toenail> http://paste.ubuntu.com/530467/
[04:25] <toenail> the aptitude didnt work for installing software center holstein:
[04:26] <holstein> you can use synaptic if you want
[04:27] <holstein> did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:27] <toenail> no
[04:27] <toenail> done now try it?
[04:28] <holstein> did the machine power off in the middle of installing?
[04:28] <toenail> nope
[04:28] <holstein> interesting
[04:28] <toenail> usually does?
[04:28] <holstein> thats the only time ive seen an error like that
[04:28] <holstein> when i lost power during an update or something
[04:29] <holstein> anyways
[04:29] <holstein> try that command
[04:29] <holstein> and use synaptic
[04:29] <holstein> to install software center
[04:29] <toenail> i ran the apt get its running now
[04:30] <toenail> so do you think it could still be a kernal problem with the whole pod situation
[04:32] <holstein> OH
[04:32] <holstein> you still have trouble?
[04:32] <holstein> yeah, if your using an RT kernel
[04:33] <holstein> ans still having trouble
[04:33] <holstein> and*
[04:36] <holstein> i would look at cat /proc/interrupts
[04:36] <holstein> if we havent already
[04:36] <holstein> and just keep tweaking
[04:36] <holstein> could be that VIA chip
[04:38] <holstein> could be something in maverick though
[04:38] <holstein> ive been meaning to get a 10.10 install and confirm that the firepod works well in there for me
[04:40] <toenail> so what would i do with cat/proc ect
[04:41] <holstein> you would see what all is on the same irq with your firewire
[04:41] <holstein> if anything
[04:41] <holstein>  23:     375167   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2
[04:41] <holstein> thats one of mine
[04:41] <holstein> on my EEE
[04:41] <holstein> ideally
[04:41] <holstein> you want the firewire all by itself
[04:41] <holstein> and you can make it that way in the bios probably if its not
[04:43] <toenail> now is that a terminal command?
[04:43] <holstein> yup
[04:43] <holstein> you can run...
[04:44] <holstein> gedit /proc/interrupts
[04:44] <holstein> if you want
[04:48] <toenail> dont see a ieee1394 http://paste.ubuntu.com/530475/
[04:49] <holstein> i think it would be worth looking in the bios next boot
[04:49] <holstein>  18:       1306   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_piix, uhci_hcd:usb4, firewire_ohci
[04:49] <toenail> nevmind i see one firewire
[04:49] <holstein> see if you can get that off by itself
[04:50] <toenail> so just change the irq for the card your saying
[04:50] <holstein> yeah, if you can
[04:50] <holstein> some laptops dont let you :/
[04:50] <holstein> most desktops do though
[04:51] <holstein> toenail: what exactly happens?
[04:51] <toenail> yea , i remember the old isa cards were ou had to use a jumper to set an irq and none of the same could be used
[04:53] <toenail> well last night i ran rakkarak and as soon as i synced the ins and outs the pc did one of those cd skip moves (i had a station on shoutcast playing) da da da da da da da da da da da da da ect. til i hit the power switch
[04:53] <holstein> OH
[04:53] <holstein> your doing pulse to JACK then?
[04:53] <holstein> i dont use that yet at all really
[04:54] <toenail> th irq is on the left right on that link i sent you right?
[04:54] <toenail> pulse?
[04:54] <holstein> toenail: you should just poke around in the bios
[04:54] <holstein> sometimes the #'s are different
[04:54] <holstein> or can be
[04:55] <holstein> should be kinda obvious though
[04:55] <holstein> hopefully :)
[04:55] <holstein> toenail: how were you listening to a shoutcast staion?
[04:55] <holstein> with what app?
[04:55] <toenail> just waiting on open office to finish installation then ill try it
[04:56] <holstein> pulse is the audio server in ubuntu
[04:56] <holstein> and other OS's
[04:56] <holstein> use to be
[04:56] <holstein> til just now really
[04:56] <holstein> 10.10
[04:56] <holstein> JACK would suspend pulse
[04:56] <holstein> thats the way i use my audio rig
[04:56] <toenail> i dont get what your saying about this pulse
[04:56] <holstein> when i have JACK running
[04:56] <holstein> i cant open a web browser
[04:56] <holstein> and whatch a video
[04:57] <holstein> and hear anything
[04:57] <holstein> that audio is dead
[04:57] <holstein> disabled
[04:57] <holstein> while JACK is running
[04:57] <holstein> and thats the way i want it to be
[04:57] <toenail> ok?
[04:57] <holstein> JACK apps talk to each other
[04:57] <holstein> and thats all i want
[04:58] <holstein> if i want to watch a youtube vid, im probably going to be on another machine anywyas
[04:58] <holstein> anyways*
[04:58] <holstein> toenail: IF you have a shoutcast station playing
[04:58] <toenail> yea i get that but what do you mean by this pulse thing
[04:58] <holstein> and you start JACK
[04:58] <holstein> that is funky
[04:58] <holstein> already
[04:58] <holstein> you probably want to start JACK
[04:58] <holstein> get the pulse to JACK bridge going
[04:58] <toenail> oh now i get it your saying it looked up cause i had shoutcast going
[04:58] <holstein> and then start the shoutcast station
[04:59] <holstein> THEN do some work in JACK
[04:59] <holstein> BUT, i dont have any experience with that pulse to jack bridge
[04:59] <toenail> pulse ?
[04:59] <holstein> pulse audio
[04:59] <holstein> thats what normal ubuntu uses
[04:59] <holstein> and other distros
[04:59] <toenail> ok i dont have it
[04:59] <holstein> yup
[04:59] <holstein> you should
[04:59] <holstein> unless you got rid of it
[05:00] <holstein> thats what ubuntu will be using
[05:00] <holstein> til you start JACK
[05:00] <holstein> then, JACK takes over everything
[05:00] <toenail> no i didnt this is like a retard running windows well not really but for the first time i have no idea what im doing
[05:00] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[05:01] <toenail> but know enough to were i wont uninstall things that i think could be usefull
[05:01] <holstein> i can only speak about my own workflow
[05:01] <holstein> BUT the idea of pulse going to JACK is quite new
[05:01] <holstein> and totally cool
[05:01] <holstein> BUT i dont need it
[05:02] <holstein> i start JACK, pulse is suspended
[05:02] <holstein> then i got access to the pod's ins and outs
[05:02] <holstein> and whatever else JACK can use
[05:03] <holstein> which is most everything
[05:05] <toenail> ok so if i install the patches it wont lock up if i want to listen to music while useing the pod. for instance i would want to lay along with a song on there and maybe record it (classical)
[05:06] <holstein> in theory
[05:06] <holstein> there are other players
[05:06] <holstein> with jack support
[05:07] <holstein> audacious i think
[05:07] <holstein> i dont really use it like that
[05:07] <holstein> BUT yeah, its do-able
[05:07] <toenail> ok
[05:09] <toenail> the weird thing about audacios might be getting it confussed with another program but its setup is like winamp but with maverick its like windows media player maybe its a skin thing . im a winamp fan myself
[05:09] <holstein> yeah, i used to be
[05:09] <toenail> oh you know i might be thinking of xmms i think
[05:09] <toenail> oh ok
[05:09] <holstein> i use VLC mostly
[05:12] <holstein> if i want to play along with something
[05:12] <holstein> i usually just import it into ardour
[05:12] <toenail> im gonna try rack without restarting and running anything else
[05:13] <toenail> its ok ill figure that out after i get the bassics down
[05:39] <toenail> i get esily confussed thats why i said that wasnt try to be a a55
[05:39] <toenail> easily*
[05:43] <airlynx> Hey there, I've no idea where to start with this, but I seem to have a problem with PulseAudio or ALSA, audio for applications will run for about 15 minutes or so and then suddenly quit, in Audacious I can use JACK and my audio will not quit, but it will if I use either PulseAudio or ALSA
[05:44] <airlynx> I'm using 10.04, I've found this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/414217 but it doesn't seem completely accurate and not very descriptive