[08:43] <sagaci> translation stats are still frozen, at least for en_AU
[10:07] <Gwaihir> sagaci, same here for Italian
[10:08] <sagaci> dpm said something the other day about imports and Monday so hopefully that means it'll get back to normal tomorrow
[10:09] <dpm> sagaci, I've just asked in #launchpad
[10:11] <sagaci> thanks, en_AU is now to a point that I know exactly where we're at but it'd be nice it it's fixed
[10:11] <sagaci> s/it/if
[10:34] <vprints> tomorrow evening shoul open up the translations
[13:51] <iceroot> hi
[13:52] <iceroot> i found a typo in the manpage from apt-get (german). what is the correct way for that? launchpad-bug? debian-bug? launchpad-translation?
[14:08] <sagaci> iceroot: in the original string or the german translation
[14:09] <iceroot> sagaci: german translation
[14:09] <sagaci> well you can join the german translation team and suggest/fix the string
[14:09] <sagaci> otherwise just email their list
[14:10] <iceroot> sagaci: but i must first if it is an upstream bug?
[14:10] <iceroot> look
[14:11] <sagaci> iceroot: what's the string
[14:12] <iceroot> -d, --download-only Nur herunterladen; Paketdateien werde nur heruntergeladen, nicht entpackt oder installiert. Konfigurationselement: APT::Get::Download-Only.
[14:12] <iceroot> s/werde/werden/
[14:26] <sagaci> iceroot: is that the string?
[14:27] <sagaci> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/apt/+pots/apt/de/234/+translate
[14:27] <sagaci> maybe not
[14:29] <iceroot> sagaci: that is the output of "apt-get --help" i am talking about the manpahe "man apt-get"
[14:31] <sagaci> yeah, should have opened my eyes, I'll go check on my laptop
[14:37] <dpm> iceroot, you can file a bug, but if you know how to contact them, you can simply send the Ubuntu German translation team an e-mail: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-de
[14:38] <dpm> In all Ubuntu teams there tends to be people involved in upstream translations, and they should point you to the right place if it indeed has to be filed as an upstream bug
[14:43] <vprints> keeled-komponendid
[14:43] <vprints> wrong channel
[14:43] <vprints> :P
[14:45] <iceroot> dpm: i will create a bug and set them on "cc" on that bug in launchpad
[14:46] <iceroot> dpm: sagaci thank you
[14:48] <dpm> iceroot, cool, thanks
[16:31] <kelemengabor> dpm: do we know about bug #851953 ? I suppose we can stop importing a few templates because of this, don't we?
[16:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851953 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) (and 21 other projects) "Rebuild for transition away from desktop file stripping (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851953
[16:32] <dpm> kelemengabor, about to enter a call, let me try to answer later on
[16:32] <kelemengabor> no problem
[17:18] <dpm> kelemengabor, I knew they had stopped doing stripping the desktop file translations, since the script or package doing that on the Kubuntu side was not really maintained. However, I haven't had a look at it in detail. One thing I've noticed is that that affects Kubuntu-specific packages, so I'm wondering how these packages will get translations for the desktop files at all


[14:10] <mup> Bug #1961594 opened: DHCP configuration form. Configure DHCP button is not enabled <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961594>
[19:35] <mup> Bug #1961624 opened: using an email with a "+" sign in "maas createadmin" fails <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961624>
[19:41] <mup> Bug #1961624 changed: using an email with a "+" sign in "maas createadmin" fails <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961624>
[19:44] <mup> Bug #1961624 opened: using an email with a "+" sign in "maas createadmin" fails <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961624>
[19:50] <mup> Bug #1961627 opened: confusing UI to add the first network space <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961627>


[07:55] <dholbach> good morning!
[14:24] <nigelb> dholbach: hey, vacation now :)
[14:24] <dholbach> great! hope you enjoy it!
[14:24] <nigelb> dholbach: Not really, I'm bored, why else wold I be on IRC at vacation ;)
[14:24] <nigelb> I'll work on the loco script tomorrow
[14:24] <dholbach> great
[14:25] <nigelb> and I need to do the cleansweep stats
[14:26] <nigelb> so less time, so much to do :-)
[14:26] <dholbach> which stats?
[14:27] <nigelb> dholbach: the weekly stats
[14:27] <nigelb> Missed it on Monday with the running around and packing
[14:27] <dholbach> ah ok, well that shouldn't take too much time :)
[14:28] <nigelb> nah, just about posting it
[14:48] <nigelb> dholbach: Is there a particular reason why we're stuck on the package training front?
[14:48] <dholbach> it needs somebody to do the work
[14:48] <nigelb> hrm, I have a free day tomorrow.  I'll coordinate with you when I'm free :)
[14:49] <dholbach> sweet
[14:49] <dholbach> or just follow up on the thread, so we can pull in the others too
[14:49] <dholbach> I'd love to see more sessions again :)
[14:49] <nigelb> Me too.


[15:35] <jonathan__> what nwow?
[15:36] <eagles0513875> search for eagles051387 thats me and try view the bugs that i have either confirmed or fixed there is one bug thats wishlisted and thats the bug that has the dependency
[15:36] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: how are you getting to launchbad and im not able to
[15:37] <jonathan__> dont know...
[15:37] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: interesting
[15:37] <jonathan__> but the sites are loading very slowly
[15:38] <jonathan__> now i cannot acces sites on launchpad too... sorry
[15:38] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: i just pinged the site there is data loss somewhere and its not loading at all for me
[15:38] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: its fine im just really wanna help ya fix it
[15:39] <jonathan__> thank you ;)
[15:39] <jonathan__> so now it had lod
[15:39] <jonathan__> load
[15:39] <jonathan__> ed
[15:39] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: whoops wrong bug :(
[15:40] <jonathan__> but i cannot search for persons only for bugs or projects
[15:40] <eagles0513875> jonathan__: im getting what u want confused with someone elses:(
[15:40] <blackmail> hey guys
[15:40] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: its a simple dependency that your missing
[15:40] <eagles0513875> hello my name is jonathan
[15:40] <blackmail> how do i get to compile the latest alsa version ?
[15:41] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: might be able to get it for ya the site takeing a while to load
[15:41] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: nice
[15:42] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: :) its up
[15:42] <blackmail> how do i get to compile files ? i want to get alsa 1.0.16
[15:43] <blackmail> doesn't anyone know ?
[15:43] <eagles0513875> blackmail: u have the source right
[15:43] <blackmail> i downloaded the files
[15:44] <blackmail> .tar.bz2 files
[15:44] <blackmail> i don't know what to do with them
[15:44] <eagles0513875> first extract them
[15:44] <blackmail> how ? is there a command for that ?
[15:44] <blackmail> i just installed Kubntu yesterday
[15:45] <blackmail> Kubuntu*
[15:45] <blackmail> oh wait i found
[15:46] <blackmail> eagles0513875:
[15:46] <blackmail> i extracted them :)
[15:46] <eagles0513875> blackmail: ok now give me a min and im going to find you a step by step on how to compile from source
[15:47] <blackmail> eagles0513875: cheers
[15:47] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: can u see if u have the kdebase-kio-plugins installed
[15:48] <eagles0513875> blackmail: try this but using your package instead http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Compiling_Programs_from_Source
[15:49] <blackmail> ok thanks
[15:49] <eagles0513875> blackmail: also this might come in handy www.google.com/linux searches all linux pgs
[15:49] <blackmail> i just have one last question
[15:49] <blackmail> eagles0513875: great ^^
[15:49] <blackmail> the question is: i have a ntfs partition with only data on it, how do i access it with Kubuntu ?
[15:49] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | blackmail
[15:49] <ubotu> blackmail: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:50] <blackmail> thanks llutz ^^
[15:57] <julie> !realplayer
[15:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:57] <julie> where is the source for realplayer
[15:58] <Jucato> I don't think there is...
[15:59] <Jucato> (that's why it's not distributed in our repositories)
[15:59] <julie> well how do I play a real media file
[15:59] <blackmail> VLC ?
[15:59] <Jucato> oh you mean package for realplayer?
[16:00] <Jucato> I thought you meant source *code*
[16:00] <Jucato> (that's what "source" usually means in the Free Software world)
[16:00] <julie>  realplayer package
[16:00] <Jucato> !medibuntu
[16:00] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:00] <Jucato> I think they have that
[16:00] <Jucato> although I can play most .rm's in Kaffeine with the proper codecs installed
[16:01] <julie> right is there anything like automatix anymore what is the latest issue with that?
[16:01] <julie> there was something like easy ubuntu that did the same thing
[16:01] <blackmail> Jucato: the default font in konqueror is a bit small, any way to change that ?
[16:01] <Jucato> julie: both are gone now. try simply installing Kubuntu Restricted Extras
[16:01] <Jucato> blackmail: as a Web Browser or as a File Manager?
[16:02] <blackmail> Jucato: as a web browser
[16:02] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Fonts
[16:02] <Jucato> set them up there
[16:09] <julie> are hdprams all setup up automatically ?
[16:11] <kostas> yes
[16:13] <dedeldedel> hello
[16:14] <dedeldedel> anybody from Rio Brasil?
[16:17] <julie> how do i get flash working in ff?
[16:17] <DreadKnight> julie: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:18] <DreadKnight> which is a meta package, cointaing .. um .. flash-nonfree or how it's called
[16:18] <llutz> flashplugin-nonfree
[16:20] <DreadKnight> right :-)
[16:21] <julie> this is why pclinuxos beats kxubuntu hands down
[16:22] <DreadKnight> julie: i really don't see why
[16:22] <llutz> because it has flash built-in?
[16:22] <DreadKnight> lol
[16:22] <llutz> killer-feature1!!11
[16:22] <matt_> !help
[16:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:22] <matt_> !ty
[16:22] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[16:22] <julie> DreadKnight: because I have been spending the past two hours setting up packages that are out of the box with pclinuxos
[16:23] <DreadKnight> julie: which packages?
[16:23] <matt_> !install
[16:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:23] <julie> DreadKnight: read my previous posts
[16:23] <Jucato> julie: didn't I just tell you to install Kubuntu Restricted Extras earlier?
[16:23] <DreadKnight> julie: then why haven't you stayed on pclinuxos... ? still a linux :P
[16:24] <Jucato> well, to be fair, Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS has different philosophies, even if they might be targetting the same market
[16:24] <DreadKnight> julie: i wasn't on the channel :P
[16:24] <matt_> !programs
[16:24] <julie> it would not install on this old system..
[16:24] <julie> DreadKnight:
[16:24] <Jucato> !msgthebot | matt_
[16:24] <matt_> !msgthebot
[16:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:25] <ubotu> matt_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:25] <DreadKnight> julie: so good that it doesn't even install..
[16:26] <DreadKnight> ubuntu has the best hardware support out of the box from what i've seen
[16:26] <DreadKnight> you can install tons of applications with a single like from konsole
[16:26] <DreadKnight> single line*
[16:27] <Jucato> [22:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats <--- julie: read the first and 3rd links for more information on why this is so in Ubuntu
[16:28] <julie> will ubuntu ever become outr of the boxd
[16:28] <julie> box
[16:28] <n1ck> !ru
[16:28] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:29] <Jucato> proprietary/non-free stuff installed by default? no. it would go against its philosophy (and if it ever did that, you could consider Ubuntu a liar). Easy to install? yes. I just told you how (twice)
[16:29] <Jucato> julie: ^^^^
[16:31] <DreadKnight> it just can't be out of the box for everyone
[16:31] <omps> hi all
[16:31] <DreadKnight> that's why there are online repositories..
[16:36] <julie> I am willing to pay for these software how much would it cost?
[16:36] <julie> flash, java, codec etc
[16:37] <Jucato> julie: "non-free" here doesn't mean you have to pay for them
[16:37] <Jucato> they mean that they are restricted in some sense, like not having their source code available, or not being able to redistribute them freely, or have patents involved
[16:38] <Jucato> julie: and again, I told you (now's the third time), just install Kubuntu Restricted Extras (kubuntu-restricted-extras) to get all of these!
[16:39] <neville_> Maybe a troll?
[16:40] <llutz> s/maybe/sure/
[16:40] <Jucato> maybe.. or just really confused/clueless/new... giving the benefit of the doubt
[16:40] <DreadKnight> julie: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted extras
[16:41] <Jucato> (patience running low though)
[16:41] <DreadKnight> meta package installing all that proprietary crap you listed
[16:41] <neville_> hehe
[16:44] <lovre> how do i unrar everything in subfolders (recursive)?
[16:44] <julie> I know. but what I'm trying to get to is that if there was a ubuntu paid version for maybe very little money like £10 I would be willing to download it and to bypass the manual apt-get install kubuntu-restricted extras
[16:44] <jussio1> does anyone know how to open .ace archives?
[16:44] <Daisuke_Ido> lovre, i've been trying to find that out
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> jussi01, 7zip should be able to andle them
[16:45] <julie> !ce
[16:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:45] <sparr_> [how] can i make apt download multiple files *at the same time*? (note emphasis)
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: I think Mandriva and SuSE offer something like that
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> if not...
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !info unace
[16:45] <ubotu> unace (source: unace): extract, test and view .ace archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-5 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: The problem is that we're not talking just about free in terms of dollars here.
[16:45] <jussio1> Daisuke_Ido: thanks!
[16:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: Some of the packages are not free as in companies are not free to distribute them,
[16:45] <Hamra> !flash
[16:45] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:45] <neville_> You only have to do it once though julie, and that's it...
[16:45] <jhutchins> julie: Only the branded version is "legal" to distribute in the U.S.
[16:46] <julie> how do mandriva mange to do it then
[16:46] <jhutchins> julie: In order to legally distribute some of it, a company has to have a license agreement allowing them to provide the software - and some software companies won't let other companies do that, even for a fee.
[16:47] <jhutchins> julie: Some of the software is just linked to the original distributor.
[16:47] <lovre> Daisuke_Ido: i think i have found a way. Try this: "unrar x -r . "
[16:47] <jhutchins> julie: So while the commercial versions of other distros may have some of the software, they don't have everything.
[16:47] <lovre> Daisuke_Ido: position yourself in parent folder first
[16:47] <DreadKnight> julie: fire the damn konsole and paste in it: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:47] <jhutchins> julie: As people have told you here though, it's not that hard to get around if you know the right way to handle it.
[16:48] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: I believe she has the answer now, she's discussing the why & how of it.
[16:48] <DreadKnight> xD
[16:48] <jussio1> !ot
[16:48] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:49] <julie> I thought it was a matter of paying for that part of the software.. so its just that some companies just don't want to sell the software
[16:49] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: To someone coming from the mostly-propietary world of Windows, or the all-propietary world of Apple, it's not immedately clear what the differences are.
[16:49] <julie> right
[16:49] <julie> thats really sad
[16:49] <DreadKnight> :)
[16:49] <julie> i like kxubuntu because of large community
[16:49] <julie> any very tollerant
[16:49] <jhutchins> julie: Exactly.  Throw in a little more complexity because of mixing the reasons together.
[16:49] <neville_> Yeah, but what are you gonna do, apart from sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras :P
[16:49] <jussio1> Hey! can we take the "discussion" to #kubuntu-offtopic and leave this channel open for support please?
[16:50] <julie> i guess we just have to work on alternatives
[16:50] <jhutchins> jussio1: Did you have a support question we missed?
[16:50] <jussio1> jhutchins: thats irrellevant :)
[16:50] <julie> okay I'll go to kubutnu offtopic
[16:51] <kaminix> Why on earth does plasma depend on a strigi lib?
[16:51] <neville_> what the hell is plasma?
[16:51] <kaminix> !language | neville_
[16:51] <ubotu> neville_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:52] <kaminix> :)
[16:52] <DreadKnight> neville_: kde4 new desktop functionality xD
[16:52] <kaminix> Plasma is a part of the KDE 4 desktop.
[16:52] <jussio1> kaminix: thats kinda more a kde4 question, but I have no idea. ( #kubuntu-kde4 for that in future)
[16:52] <kaminix> Apparently it depends on libstrigiqtdbusclient0
[16:52] <neville_> Hell isn't bad language.. but okay >>
[16:53] <kaminix> neville_: I don't really care, personally, but some people may consider it bad language and it should be kept out of the channel. That's what I learned when first comming here.
[16:53] <julie> i can't seem to playback flash files on youtube.. any idea why.. it freezes and ff has to be terminated
[16:54] <jhutchins> We try to set a high standard of civility here.  It can be enlightening to live up to it.
[16:54] <jussio1> !fffc | julie
[16:54] <ubotu> julie: If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[16:54] <DreadKnight> firefox freezes a lot for me
[16:54] <neville_> Oh dear.. -__v
[16:54] <DreadKnight> especially when closing tabs containing flash
[16:56] <DreadKnight> klash/gnash for the win!
[16:56] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: Use konqueror.
[16:56] <DreadKnight> jhutchins i can't
[16:57] <DreadKnight> jhutchins dependencies broken and i can't install it T_T
[16:57] <DreadKnight> i'm on hardy
[16:57] <jhutchins> DreadKnight: Opera?
[16:57] <DreadKnight> ff
[16:57] <DreadKnight> open source fanatic...
[16:57] <DreadKnight> opera was the best...
[16:58] <jhutchins> I'll bet I can still find most of the history bugs I reported on Mosaic in the firefox code - patched around, perhaps, but still there.
[16:59] <julie> this is the line I have to add to firefoxrc
[16:59] <julie> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[17:02] <BluesKaj> I had a bad crash yesterday , been trying to repair files but cupsys is in bad shape  "E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing." when i try to sudo apt-get update ... any ideas ?
[17:02] <spiroo> If I download a several torrents in high speed and compiling kde at the same time my computer went very slow. I wondering, does this processes affect the CPU most or what components could it be?
[17:02] <Stroganoff> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get clean
[17:03] <DreadKnight> indeed
[17:03] <BluesKaj> yeah , done that Stroganoff
[17:03] <spiroo> Dreadnight: Did you answer me?
[17:03] <DreadKnight> sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[17:04] <DreadKnight> spiroo: notreally... but compilation and torrents are very resource demanding
[17:04] <eagles0513875> kaminix: what up
[17:04] <DreadKnight> compilling*
[17:05] <Stroganoff> spiroo check the swapfile usage
[17:05] <jacalope> spiroo: you can use 'top' to learn which processes are using the cpu, mem, etc...
[17:05] <spiroo> DreadKnight: Yea I noticed that ;) ust wondering which components that takes most of it. It does not have a to great CPU :P
[17:05] <spiroo> Stroganoff: How do you mean?
[17:05] <DreadKnight> spiroo: ctrl + Esc
[17:05] <julie> dose anhyone else here have problems playing flash movies on youtueb?
[17:06] <spiroo> nspluginviewer takes 40-45% of my CPU? :S What is that?
[17:06] <nonewmsgs> julie: yes i have.
[17:07] <DreadKnight> spiroo: webpages in ktorrent or webpages using flash in konqueror?
[17:07] <DreadKnight> my guess
[17:07] <julie> nonewmsgs: how do we fix it
[17:07] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have the flashplugin-nonfree instaled
[17:07] <julie> this isn't a problem in pclinuxos
[17:07] <julie> eagles0513875: yes
[17:07] <spiroo> DreadKnight: Well I havent konqueror or any webpages in Ktorrent open :S
[17:07] <DreadKnight> spiroo:  xD
[17:07] <eagles0513875> julie: did u restart ur browser after installing the pkg
[17:07] <eagles0513875> *you
[17:08] <julie> eagles0513875: yes
[17:08] <spiroo> It is something else, that takes extreme power from my CPU :D
[17:08] <nonewmsgs> the weird thing is it used to work and a couple weeks ago stopped giving me love like a PO'ed gf
[17:08] <eagles0513875> julie: interesting cuz i havent had that issue
[17:08] <spiroo> Wondering what it could be :S
[17:08] <spiroo> jacalope: What are you meaning with "top"?
[17:08] <eagles0513875> julie: have you tried clearing cookies cache and everything
[17:09] <BluesKaj> non of autoremoves or get cleans work .the error is still the same .. the ' partial' file is still missing from, /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:09] <julie> yes
[17:09] <eagles0513875> julie: you on gutsy or hardy
[17:09] <jacalope> spiroo: in a terminal window, type 'top', or run a kde equiv... system monitor i think it's labelled as...
[17:10] <DreadKnight> BluesKaj: hardy beta?
[17:10] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: the release candidate is out
[17:10] <julie> gutsy
[17:10] <DreadKnight> jacalope: or just press ctrl + ESC :P
[17:10] <jacalope> anyone here use kmail with imap?  I have a problem where kmail gets stuck in synch mode... emails read become unread, etc...
[17:10] <errpast> I need a laptop that works out of box with Ubuntu
[17:10] <eagles0513875> julie: im not if they fixed the bug in gutsy but in hardy its working for me im listening to something on you tube now
[17:10] <BluesKaj> DreadKnight, Gutsy
[17:10] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: my beta should have updated then :P
[17:10] <errpast> I don't want to hack right now
[17:10] <errpast> Any suggestions?
[17:11] <errpast> Any favorites?
[17:11] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:11] <DreadKnight> errpast: buy from Dell with ubuntu preinstalled? xD
[17:11] <julie> so i have to upgrade to hardy
[17:11] <jacalope> DreadKnight: hey wow... who knew?
[17:11] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: well it's upgraded for sure then xD
[17:11] <BluesKaj> dell was selling ubuntu laptops
[17:11] <nonewmsgs> eagles0513875: clearing cache and cookies fixed mine thanks!
[17:11] <eagles0513875> julie: let me find out something for ya really quick
[17:11] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: they still are
[17:11] <spiroo> jacalope: Okay, already has the system monitor open. But Im damn curious about nspluginviewer. Oh yes, remembered that I am using kDE4 :D COuld it be something in Terminal, ktorrent, amarok that uses nspluginviewer?
[17:11] <DreadKnight> jacalope: um... everybody else? xD
[17:12] <eagles0513875> julie: you running gutsy on a test machine
[17:12] <errpast> Ya, I see a m1330 there for about $1000
[17:12] <julie> no eagles0513875 what do you mean test machine
[17:13] <jacalope> DreadKnight: yeah, yeah... i'm an old guy.... i like CLI
[17:13] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have data on the machine ur on now
[17:13] <julie> julie: yes personal data
[17:13] <eagles0513875> julie: i would recommend backing it all up i was having issues trying to figure out how to get the upgrade thing to work
[17:14] <julie> so what do you suggest to upgrade to hardy..
[17:14] <eagles0513875> julie: you can try it and at least that way if something gets borked you have ur data backedup
[17:14] <julie> also my data is on a diffrerent partition
[17:14]  * DreadKnight goes to get very very drunk.
[17:14] <julie> so to upgrade to hardy I have to change all the gutsy names to hardy in the sources.list
[17:15] <eagles0513875> julie: then in that case you can just reformat the root partition and leave what ever other partitions u have intact
[17:15] <eagles0513875> julie: its different now now messing with source list
[17:15] <eagles0513875> julie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:16] <julie> that link is for a cdrom .. I'm using internet
[17:17] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic | julie
[17:17] <ubotu> julie: source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[17:17] <eagles0513875> julie: thats the only way to really do it cuz the other way by changing the sources would break alot of stuff
[17:18] <julie> where is that .. I cant' find it
[17:18] <julie> help
[17:18] <julie> Applications / K menu
[17:18] <mado> hi guys
[17:19] <mado> somebody sent me the following link
[17:19] <mado> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/scummvm/scummvm_0.11.1-0.etch.1_i386.deb?download
[17:19] <eagles0513875> julie: the cd upgrade is used in conjunction with the internet its to check pkg dependencies and whats been removed from previous installation
[17:19] <mado> but i don't have debian installed and i heard it wasn't wise to install e.g. an etch-deb-package
[17:19] <mado> what do you think?
[17:19] <mado> was this person right?
[17:19] <eagles0513875> mado: you are running kubuntu right
[17:20] <mado> yes ... i'm running kubuntu ... 7.10
[17:20] <julie> so I have to download the cd then use it
[17:20] <julie> what if someone dosen't have a cdrw
[17:20] <eagles0513875> mado: kubuntu is debian based so that pkg is fine to use
[17:20] <ryanakca> eagles0513875: no
[17:20] <mado> *smiling*
[17:20] <ryanakca> mado: install the 'scummvm' package from the repositories
[17:21] <DreadKnight> julie: you need to add the hardy repository...
[17:21] <mado> i installed it ... but it is an old one
[17:21] <eagles0513875> julie: i just did a clean install since i was already on hardy beta
[17:21] <mado> isn't there a newer version in another repository?
[17:21] <ryanakca> mado: 'sudo aptitude install scummvm' or go to Adept and install it from there :)
[17:21] <ryanakca> !info scummvm
[17:21] <ubotu> scummvm (source: scummvm): free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1build1 (gutsy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 4244 kB
[17:21] <mado> yeah! ...
[17:21] <mado> that's the old one
[17:21] <julie> DreadKnight: we are not getting anywhere here . can I change all the gutsy to hardy in the sources list to upgrade
[17:22] <mado> ScummVM 0.11.1 is the latest one
[17:22] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have the gutsy cd
[17:22] <DreadKnight> julie: it's an old methor of doing things... ok..
[17:22] <DreadKnight> method*
[17:22] <ryanakca> mado: ah, sorry. Hmm... Well, hardy has 0.11.1-1 , gutsy doesn't. Well, you could try, but your mileage may vary and it isn't a supported method
[17:22] <mado> ryanakca, ... pardon?
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: (aka, some dependencies might not be at the right version in the gutsy repository)
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: you can try, but it will most likely break, and it isn't a supported method
[17:23] <eagles0513875> ryanakca: julie would like to upgrade to hardy the old fashioned way changing the source list could you walk her through the new method of upgrading
[17:23] <DreadKnight> julie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:23] <ryanakca> eagles0513875: sorry, I need to go eat
[17:23] <eagles0513875> ryanakca: ok
[17:23] <mado> uhuu ... i see ... well ... then i will play with the old version or will wait the next few days to pass and install "heron" :)
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: sorry I can't be of more help, I need to go have lunch
[17:23] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: youre walking over ground i already covered
[17:23] <ryanakca> mado: goodies :D
[17:23] <mado> do that!
[17:24] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Cleaning my install from somesuperfluos applications :p
[17:24] <mado> enjoy it!
[17:24] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: um.. ok..
[17:24] <mado> bon appetit!
[17:24] <eagles0513875> kaminix: lol like what
[17:24] <kaminix> eagles0513875: kmag, strigi, dolphin etc ^^
[17:24] <mado> maybe you can explain later to me ... why it is bad to install a debian-package
[17:25] <eagles0513875> mado: its not all the pkgs in the repos r .deb
[17:25] <mado> but please explain it in a simple way ... so that i can tell my parents too if they want to know it
[17:26] <eagles0513875> mado: older versions possibly depend on older dependencies which have probably been improved or phased out so if you install something new u might now have the proper dependencies and can create numerous problems
[17:26] <eagles0513875> kaminix: i need to start doing that and taking notes of what i removed for my os
[17:26] <eagles0513875> julie: do u have a gutsy cd
[17:26] <kaminix> eagles0513875: Why take notes?
[17:26] <eagles0513875> kaminix: so if i break anything and have to reinstall i can and remember what i did dont forget this is for my cluster os development
[17:27] <kaminix> What exactly is a Cluster OS?
[17:27] <eagles0513875> kaminix: take a bunch of desktop pc's and make them function as one aka main frame but a whole lot cheaper
[17:28] <kaminix> For what purpose would you want to do that?
[17:29] <eagles0513875> kaminix: is ur nick registered
[17:29] <kaminix> It is
[17:29] <eagles0513875> ok imgoing to private chat with ya
[17:30] <errpast> anyone used a ergo 4000 microsoft keyboard with kubuntu?
[17:30] <errpast> I've got rsi
[17:30] <errpast> I need it to work
[17:36] <jacalope> hi all... looked for info on this kmail bug but can't find it.... first: kde: 3.5.9, kmail: 1.9.9.... when using imap, gets stuck in synch, repeats indefininitely.... read emails become unread.... anyone have an idea, link, etc...?
[17:36] <user__> hi all
[17:39] <Makuseru> What are some programs that will play DVDs? I tried Kaffeine, but it said it needed codecs, asked me if i watned to install them, i clicked yes, but nothing happened. Are there any others?
[17:39] <the-erm> errpast: I've never had problems with keyboards ... I usually plug them in and go.  You might need to use xev to figure out the codes for the keys, and then edit the name of a file that escapes me at this time :)
[17:40] <the-erm> Just google xev keyboard setup, and you should find what you need.
[17:41] <the-erm> Makuseru: You're going to need ... I think it's called css lib or lib css.  Not sure to be honest, because I don't use the computer to watch dvds.
[17:41] <Makuseru> the-erm: i found it, libdvdcss2
[17:41] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[17:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:41] <the-erm> Makuseru: I all you have to do is enable the "restricted" repository in adept_manager.
[17:42] <the-erm> But be careful it could be against the law in your country to install it.
[17:42] <Makuseru> the-erm: i found it, libdvdcss2
[17:43] <the-erm> I'm wondering if I should install the RC for 8.04.
[17:43] <the-erm> Last time I upgraded it wasn't fun.
[17:44] <the-erm> If I did it now, I wonder if it would be easier when the official 8.04 came out.
[17:44] <the-erm> Well less downloads anyways ...
[17:45] <BluesKaj> the-erm, the "official release " is only 4 days away
[17:45] <the-erm> Last time they released it took forever to download ...
[17:46] <the-erm> I wanted apt-torrent to exist very badly.  Then again I had quite a few weird repositories in the list.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> I have a bunch of broken pkges so I'm doing a clean install in a week or so , once the DL activity dies down somewhat
[17:47] <the-erm> It's always the same ... an impatient itch comes over me when its about time for the new one to come out.
[17:49] <jacalope> how do you downgrade a package (like kmail) to an earlier version?
[17:50] <DarkShinigami> Hello all.
[17:50] <BluesKaj> my problem is I don't know what broke my networking apps like samba and cupsys, so a clean install may not fix what is broken ...could be something on the windows network side
[17:51] <DarkShinigami> I am using a Dell SmartStep 250N. How can I get the FN function and top "Easy Launch Keys" to work?
[17:52] <the-erm> BluesKaj: are you running inside a vm?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> no
[17:52] <ryanakca> mado: Hi, back, sorry, my parents were shouting at me to go eat. Ok, still need the explanation?
[17:52] <the-erm> Then changes of windows breaking something inside kubuntu is practically nill.
[17:53] <the-erm> s/changes/chances
[17:53] <mado> well ... sorry that they shouted at you ... and yes ... please explain it to me
[17:54] <the-erm> BluesKaj: I would check the network settings.
[17:54] <BluesKaj> yeah the-erm , that's what I "was" thing as well , but I'm beginning to wonder
[17:54] <BluesKaj> thinking
[17:55] <the-erm> Of course if you're in here, I think your network is fine.
[17:55] <the-erm> You probably need to restart your cups.sys files.
[17:55] <the-erm> er daemon.
[17:55] <ryanakca> mado: OK, packages have dependencies, that's to say, it depends on other packages to run. However, when you install a package from say Debian, that hasn't been backported or prepared for your current system,
[17:55] <the-erm> I recall not too long ago that cups had an update.
[17:56] <the-erm> Maybe something in /etc/cups got overwritten.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> nope, they're damaged beyond repair I'm afraid
[17:56] <jor> hola
[17:56] <jor> alguien habla español
[17:56] <jor> ki
[17:56] <jor> en esta
[17:56] <jor> sala
[17:56] <jor> ??
[17:56] <jor> ?
[17:57] <ryanakca> mado: the versions of the dependencies of the package you wish to install might not be correct. ex: A-1.0 depends on B-3.2.2, but on your system, you can only install B-3.2.0.
[17:57] <DarkShinigami> !sp | jor
[17:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:57] <ryanakca> !es | jor
[17:57] <ubotu> jor: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> the-erm, E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[17:57] <DarkShinigami> !es | jor
[17:58] <mado> ok ... i see ... thanks ryanakca ... is this the "only" problem?
[17:59] <ryanakca> mado: because the dependencies aren't at the right version, the program will often break and crash at wierd times. If other programs depend on that program, then those programs also break. Thus it creates a big chain of breakage that wouldn't exist if you had stayed with the original Ubuntu package. Installing 3rd party packages might also cause issues when upgrading.
[17:59] <mado> uhuu ... i see ... thank you very much for that explanation
[17:59] <the-erm> BluesKaj: make it :) sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial;
[18:00] <BluesKaj> yeah did that
[18:00] <ryanakca> mado: thus, it isn't recommended. You can try, but no garanty. (personally, I'd just upgrade to Hardy today, or wait four days until release)
[18:00] <ryanakca> And you're quite welcome :)
[18:00] <mado> well ... i will wait :)
[18:01] <BluesKaj> the-erm, aha , forgot the semi colon at the end of the command , thx ...seems to be working now
[18:02] <the-erm> BluesKaj: It needs to have 755 for the perms, and root:root for the owners.
[18:03] <ang3lo5> hi
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> hey ang3lo5
[18:04] <ang3lo5> quick question
[18:04] <BluesKaj> the-erm, sorry to say , i got several errors,  Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libavahi-common-dev_0.6.20-2ubuntu3.3_i386.deb ..is an example
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> ask
[18:04] <the-erm> I don't know if it's a good idea to rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb or not.
[18:05] <ang3lo5> my video playback is crapy..i tried vlc too...also crapy with HD video rips....
[18:05] <the-erm> ang3lo5: are you sure you're using the right driver?
[18:05] <kostas2505> hello to all!
[18:06] <ang3lo5> ati driver was installed
[18:06] <the-erm> I use the open gl driver ... can't remember the official name, but xine seems to work ok.
[18:06] <ang3lo5> auto
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: what video card?
[18:07] <ang3lo5> *new to linux and i find ubuntu perfect...just this litle think bothers me...
[18:07] <ang3lo5> x800 pci-e
[18:07] <Signil> hi I am trying ot get my acer orbicam to work here.. downloaded the gspca drivers .. but it isn't detected :s
[18:08] <kostas2505> if possible i'd like to ask if there is way update drivers automatically since my knowledge in kubuntu and linux in general are up to installing the distribution NOTHING MORE
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> kostas2505: they are automatically updated
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: ok, what driver are you using? fglrx or the Open source ati
[18:09] <the-erm> kostas2505: Usually adept_notifier will pop up in your taskbar when updates are available.  I recommend against running apt-get update; apt-get upgrade automatically, because if something breaks, you don't know what packages were installed last.
[18:10] <the-erm> If you know what's being installed, you might have an idea of where to look if something stops working.
[18:10] <ang3lo5> it was automatically downloaded....:( cant say....i dont know how i can see my devices also so i can check drivers ver.
[18:10] <the-erm> It seems like whenever postfix I have to make sure everything is ok in /etc/postfix.
[18:10] <kostas2505> i think that does not include e.g:cosmote usb portable modem ?
[18:11] <ang3lo5> *cant
[18:11] <the-erm> one day I'm going to learn how to talk in complete sentences.
[18:11] <ang3lo5> me to
[18:11] <ang3lo5> lol
[18:12] <ang3lo5> is there something like a device manager in ub8.04?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> what's the runbox equivalent in kde4 ?
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: ok, its simple enough, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: Krunner?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> run command
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: I think there might be, but i'm not sure, "sudo lshw" will tell you everything though
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah, krunner
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> ang3lo5: and support for 8.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> for another 4 days :P
[18:14] <ang3lo5> thank you :)
[18:16] <ang3lo5> found it...driver is fglrx
[18:17] <FFForever> how would i upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04?
[18:17] <the-erm> FFForever: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[18:18] <the-erm> You have to download the alt cd.
[18:18] <jussio1> FFForever: you eed to go incrementally, ie. 7.04, 7.10, 8.04
[18:19] <FFForever> i have to upgrade to 7.10 first?
[18:21] <tanja> hallo
[18:21] <tanja> hallo bräuchte hilfe beim einrichten kubuntu
[18:22] <jussio1> FFForever: correct
[18:23] <jussio1> !de | tanja
[18:23] <ubotu> tanja: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:24] <tanja> #kubuntu-de
[18:25] <FFForever> is 8.04 safe?, for real use?, not just vmware.....
[18:26] <jussio1> FFForever: Im on it now, and it comes out in a few days. if its a real big problem, wat for the next 4 days, its not that long
[18:26] <jussio1> :)
[18:26] <ryanakca> FFForever: yes, you would need to upgrade to 7.10 before upgrading to 8.04
[18:26] <FFForever> ill just wipe ^_^
[18:41] <Signil> hi.. my acrer orbicam isn't detected! pls help
[18:42] <Signil> acer*
[18:59] <poseidon> I am dualbooting openSuse and wiindows xp, how would I go about installing kubuntu over openSuse?
[19:00] <stdin> poseidon: just format the partition during the kubuntu install process
[19:02] <BioVorE> you can setup the partitions manualy in the Kubuntu installer
[19:03] <BluesKaj> poseidon , are using the live cd ?
[19:03] <poseidon> BluesKaj, I'm going to use one for kubuntu, yes.
[19:04] <`ubuntu_user`> test msg
[19:04] <BluesKaj> use the partition manager to choose the linux partition(either ext2 or ext3)  and overwrite it with ext3 .
[19:05] <poseidon> In order to get internet, I have to install a driver.  Can I do this on the livecd then use the driver to connect to the internet during the install?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> no connection to the internet with the live cd ?
[19:06] <poseidon> BluesKaj, when I had ubuntu, I had to install a driver in order to get a connection.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> which ubuntu version was that ?
[19:08] <poseidon> BluesKaj, 8.04 beta
[19:10] <BluesKaj> I would try to install kubuntu before worrying about a driver. It may not be necessary.
[19:11] <BluesKaj> the driver you used with suse should be ok , if you have it available
[19:11] <manu__> uyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[19:14] <latitu>  how to run an app as system service on boot?
[19:16] <maduser> I think throug cron or by adding it to the start up script
[19:17] <stdin> !boot
[19:17] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[19:17] <maduser> that was it rc.local
[19:17] <latitu> maduser stdin thx
[19:18] <latitu> stdin iam trying to startup firestarter at boot . i lll put it in rc.local. will that make it system servcie and how  to avoide password?
[19:19] <stdin> firestarter starts on boot anyway
[19:19] <stdin> the GUI doesn't, but the iptables rules get loaded
[19:21] <poseidon> How do I get to gparted from the 8.04 livecd?  I am dualbooting openSuse and xp.  I want to delete openSuse and install ubuntu.
[19:21] <latitu> it doesnt starts on boot
[19:21] <stdin> latitu: how do you know it doesn't?
[19:22] <stdin> poningru: just install over it
[19:24] <BluesKaj> poseidon, have you chosen the install option yet ?
[19:25] <latitu> what does /etc/init.d do?
[19:25] <poseidon> BluesKah, no
[19:26] <dkkdkkc4> newbie here
[19:26] <stdin> latitu: it contains startup scripts
[19:26] <Stroganoff> latitu it is a folder containing scripts for starting and stopping system wide services
[19:26] <BluesKaj> that's the path to follow , click on install in order to get to the partition manager
[19:26] <poseidon> BluesKaj, k thinks
[19:26] <latitu> so what is more powerful and unstopable. init.d or rc.local?
[19:27] <stdin> latitu: /etc/rc.local gets started from /etc/init.d/rc.local
[19:29] <BluesKaj> too many ubuntus in here
[19:29] <BluesKaj> !nick
[19:29] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[19:30] <BluesKaj> oops , that's not it
[19:30] <genii> BluesKaj: I'd rather see 100 "ubuntu"s than 1 "root"
[19:31] <BluesKaj> hi genii, yeah especially in the showers :)
[19:31] <genii> BluesKaj: hehe
[19:31] <latitu> stdin so init.d is powerful. and i wonder why theres a need for rc.local if init.d does that?
[19:32] <stdin> latitu: rc.local is used to put commands in when you don't want to write a startup script, put it in /etc/init.d and setup the links
[19:33] <BluesKaj> genii, my network is 'borked', and got all kinds of broken packages, all to do with cups, so installs and updates are also blocked
[19:34] <genii> BluesKaj: Ouch. I'd consider a clean install
[19:34] <BluesKaj> tried replacing the missing debs but no joy
[19:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, guess it's in the works next week
[19:35] <genii> BluesKaj: Maybe you have mixed repos (Gutsy/Hardy or so)
[19:35] <BluesKaj> nope, no hardy
[19:36] <BluesKaj> checked the sources.list
[19:36] <genii> Other things that come to mind are maybe messing with apt pinning
[19:37] <BluesKaj> well, I'm sure i did 'something' :)
[19:38] <BluesKaj> altho my Tivo connection is still ok
[19:39] <genii> BluesKaj: Since it's almost always 3 times more difficult to undo/clean/diagnose these types of embedded probs the prudent thing is just a reinstall
[19:40] <BluesKaj> yeah, gonna do it when Hardy is official
[19:40] <genii> Oh yeah, Thursday :)
[19:40] <BluesKaj> altho I 've heard that theis latest release is prolly as good as it's gonna get :)
[19:41] <BluesKaj> beta that is
[19:41] <genii> BluesKaj: I've heard rumours of 8.04.1 for sometime first week or so of May
[19:42] <ToMMmMMMM> Hi, I'm having problems finding a network on my wifi card... When I first installed it..it was fine but after I rebooted a couple times it can't find a network :( Any helps?
[19:45] <DarkShinigami> Is there an official date for the relast of 8.04?
[19:45] <tomaz_> yes, there is.
[19:45] <genii> DarkShinigami: April 24
[19:45] <tomaz_> really near =)
[19:45] <DarkShinigami> :) T minus 4 days
[19:46] <fadey> Hi. I've upgraded to hardy RC. On booting I get :ALERT! /dev/sda2 doesn't exist. How do I combat that?
[19:47] <genii> fadey: Perhaps they'll know in #ubuntu+1
[19:59] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[19:59] <jparishy> I asked this question in #linux, but i figure i might as well ask here too.
[19:59] <jparishy> Hey. I have kubuntu installed on my mac book but i recently resized one of my partitions and since then i cannot boot up into linux.  Usually I hold the option key down on startup to show me a menu of the os's on the computer, but linux doesn't show up anymore. Furthermore, I tried setting the linux partition to boot automatically (via "bless" command in osx) but that just hangs the computer. The data in the os is still there as I can mo
[20:01] <DarkShinigami> narothepharoh: Do you have xscreensaver installed?
[20:02] <narothepharoh> DarkShinigami: it was not but i just installed it do you think this will help?
[20:02] <BluesKaj> jparishy, download the Ultimate Boot Disk and burn it..it's very useful at restoring bootloader menus
[20:03] <jparishy> Thanks :D
[20:03] <maduser> whats the kde customize program?
[20:03] <DarkShinigami> narothepharoh: It should. I recall that being the solution for me a while back
[20:03] <jparishy> Will do
[20:03] <DarkShinigami> BluesKaj: Is that similar to SGD?
[20:04] <narothepharoh> DarkShinigami: I will wait to see if it comes on ill write back in a few minutes. Thank You
[20:04] <DarkShinigami> narothepharoh: NP. Hope it works
[20:04] <BluesKaj> DarkShinigami, yes
[20:15] <sourcemaker_> is there a good book to understand the Linux Kernel. (Architecture, Development.. and so on)...
[20:18] <narothepharoh> DarkShinigami: it is still not working any more ideas? the screen just goes blank when the screensaver is supposed to kick on
[20:20] <Earthwings> Hi, a question on upgrading: Can I use a command line upgrade like this? Update all packages, change things in sources.list to read hoary, update again? Or does the graphical version do more?
[20:20] <DarkestHour> !upgrade
[20:20] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:20] <DarkestHour> you should be able to apply those to hardy
[20:20] <Earthwings> ubotu: it doesn't cover it
[20:21] <DarkestHour> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[20:21] <DarkestHour> that does.
[20:21] <JoshOvki> Earthwings: when i last upgraded i killed my install cause it hang, might be worth making a data backup first
[20:21] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[20:21] <Earthwings> DarkestHour: i'm looking for a command line version
[20:22] <DarkestHour> run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:22] <DarkestHour> that should do it command line.
[20:22] <Earthwings> JoshOvki: yeah, i plan to test it on one of the workstations before i do them all :)
[20:25] <DarkestHour> brb
[20:27] <icewaterman> what tool can i use to create 1 pdf from a large amount of images?
[20:30] <narothepharoh> i am using kubuntu 7.10 cant get my screensaver to work any ideas?
[20:31] <DarkestHour> back
[20:31] <Earthwings> icewaterman: imagemagick (convert,mogrify,...)
[20:33] <icewaterman> Earthwings: imagemagick is for manipulating images
[20:33] <junkie> Okay, so i downloaded and burned the ultimate boot cd and ran it on the computer, but I'm not sure what i need to do to fix the problem. Anyone know?
[20:33] <icewaterman> Earthwings: the images are already fine, just wanna print them all into a single pdf file
[20:34] <Earthwings> icewaterman: one page each?
[20:35] <icewaterman> Earthwings: yes
[20:36] <icewaterman> Earthwings: but only 1 will fit onto one page anyway, so the program doesnt even need to know that i want 1 page each, they will simply just fit
[20:36] <asif> Hello there...
[20:36] <lz1gjd> could anyone tell me how to connect to a vpn in hardy rc , pls ?
[20:36] <icewaterman> lz1gjd: -> #ubuntu+1
[20:36] <Odd-rationale> !hardy | lz1gjd
[20:36] <ubotu> lz1gjd: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:36] <Earthwings> icewaterman: personally i'd write a script to generate a .tex file and have latex do the rest
[20:36] <asif> A quick question: "timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008", I get this error chaning password...any ideas whats wrong
[20:37] <Earthwings> asif: is that time in the future in your timezone?
[20:38] <asif> hello earthwings... 20.4 is today, how could it be future?
[20:39] <asif> i want to change password to login as root in order to do many things..but i cant do it. any help... it is 8.04 kubuntu beta
[20:40] <icewaterman> Earthwings: i am gonna use gtklp
[20:41] <skabet> asif: can't you use sudo?
[20:42] <biopod> Hi all, a quick question, how can i remove dolphin from KDE4 7.10 ?
[20:42] <Ketrel> I may have found a bug, but before I go to file it, could anyone else comment, none of the keyboard shortcuts under Miscellaneous (in the system settings), have any effect (Gutsy using KDE3)
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> biopod: try in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:43] <biopod> ok, thanks
[20:43] <asif> skabet: i can. but i want to use root account to login once and do everything once. but chpasswd fails saying "timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008"
[20:43] <asif> this is so strange
[20:44] <skabet> asif: what about adding yourself to root group for a while being
[20:44] <kde-devel> Hi, I discovered a huge bug in KDE :D
[20:44] <skabet> asif: is chpasswd the same as passwd ?
[20:44] <asif> ah...just a sec...lemme check
[20:45] <PhilRod> kde-devel: report it on bugs.kde.org
[20:45] <skabet> asif: sudo passwd root
[20:45] <skabet> asif: try that
[20:45] <icewaterman> Earthwings: ok, that was a really bad idea
[20:46] <kde-devel> For a moment ago my disk space for / went totally out, which mean 0 b free. That should not even be possible. anyway, when I restartaed computer and should login as usual. Guess what, KDE did not start because there was no space left. i hade to manually in temrinal mode delete files with rm, which I hope I never have to do again.
[20:46] <asif> sudo passwd root
[20:46] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:46] <asif> this is what happens
[20:46] <asif> ???
[20:46] <skabet> no idea then :)
[20:46] <Earthwings> asif: just use sudo su
[20:46] <Earthwings> afterwards you're root
[20:46] <kde-devel> PhilRod: I do not know how to do that. They always require so damn many details and everything.
[20:47] <asif> earthwings:
[20:47] <Earthwings> asif: the root account is disabled in /etc/passwd, you have to edit it first to use it
[20:47] <asif> sudo passwd root
[20:47] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:47] <asif> same result
[20:47] <asif> is it a bug?
[20:47] <Earthwings> icewaterman: maybe you can use gwenview or some other image viewer
[20:47] <Earthwings> icewaterman: open the directory with the images, print and choose pdf a sprinter
[20:47] <JoshOvki> asif: whats your BIOS time and date at?
[20:47] <Earthwings> icewaterman: didn't try that though
[20:47] <asif> how do i check it joshovki?
[20:48] <PhilTrunk> kde-devel: well, them's the breaks. If you want to report bugs, you have to provide details
[20:48] <Earthwings> asif: 'sudo su' does give that warning?
[20:48] <JoshOvki> restart, hit F1, Esc or Del   (what ever your bios require) and take a look in there. not sure if you can do it from command
[20:48] <icewaterman> Earthwings: but i did - doesnt work
[20:48] <kde-devel> Earthwings, asif: Do you possibly know how to change from kdesu to kdesudo in kde trunk? Because when I am logged in to trunk I cannot enter for instance adept because kdesu does not accept kdesudo passwords for root.
[20:48] <Earthwings> icewaterman: it only prints one image?
[20:48] <PhilTrunk> kde-devel: anyway, it's not that hard - go to bugs.kde.org, sign up for an account, then fill in the bug wizard
[20:48] <asif> yes earthwings..it gives exactly the same message as i quoted above
[20:49] <icewaterman> Earthwings: one works, multiple dont
[20:49] <kde-devel> PhilTrunk: Okay, I guess
[20:49] <Earthwings> asif: what does 'date' tell you?
[20:49] <Stepa1> I am using Ubuntu and I need help with installing the Monkey Audio Plugin for K3b.
[20:49] <icewaterman> Earthwings: probably gonna do this in windows, freepdf xp is quite nice for that
[20:49] <Earthwings> icewaterman: some other image gallery tool? konqueror can do galleries, you could print that
[20:49] <Stepa1> I followed all instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380394 and did not get any errors
[20:49] <asif> earthwings:
[20:49] <asif> sudo passwd root
[20:49] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:50] <asif> date
[20:50] <asif> Sun Apr 20 21:49:31 CEST 2008
[20:50] <Earthwings> asif: not "sudo passwd root", but "sudo su"
[20:50] <JoshOvki> asif: try this  sudo -k
[20:50] <asif> Here is it
[20:50] <asif> sudo su
[20:50] <asif> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 20 23:25:34 2008
[20:50] <mwe> Where do I find the utility for changing the ksplash theme?
[20:51] <dylan_> On Hardy, my monitor's resolution isn't recogized properly and the correct resolution (1280x1024) isn't available through they system config tool.
[20:51] <dylan_> Anyknow know how I might be able to fix this?
[20:51] <Earthwings> kde-devel: the account needs to be part of the admin group
[20:51] <dylan_> I used to be able to hand edit the xorg.conf file, but there are no modelines in there anymore.
[20:51] <Earthwings> kde-devel: for sudo to work
[20:51] <asif> JoshOvki....THANK YOU sudo -k worked like magic :)
[20:51] <Stepa1> Can anyone help with the install of the monkey plugin for k3b
[20:51] <asif> wow
[20:52] <Earthwings> dylan_: use 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[20:52] <JoshOvki> :)
[20:52] <asif> thank you earthwings too.
[20:52] <dylan_> Earthwings: I tried that already. Thanks.
[20:52] <asif> and all the forum
[20:52] <Earthwings> asif: np
[20:52] <dylan_> Earthwings: That only lets me reconfigure my keyboard on Hardy.
[20:53] <Earthwings> dylan_: hm, let me check myself
[20:53] <kde-devel> Earthwings: Yes, I know. All my accounts are. The problem is kde su which differs from kde sudo.
[20:54] <icewaterman> Earthwings: how does konqueror create galleries?
[20:54] <Stepa1> I need help installing Monkey Audio plugin to K3b and used instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380394 but it didnt work
[20:54] <Earthwings> dylan_: wow, you're right. probably this bulletproof thing interfering
[20:54] <Earthwings> icewaterman: the one in kde 3.5 has an option in the menu "create image gallery" or something
[20:55] <dylan_> Earthwings: Well, the new Xorg server is supposed to auto-configure everything for you, but it's doing a very poor job on my hardware.
[20:55] <mwe> IIRC there used to be a "Look and feel->Splash screen" entry but it seems to be gone now?
[20:55] <dylan_> And while I love auto-configuration, I need to be able to fix things when the automagic doesn't work properly.
[20:56] <icewaterman> Earthwings: ok, i also can rule that out
[20:58] <icewaterman> linux probably has no such tool or just one i need to read 100 pages manual in order to get a 50 line-size command to do what i want
[20:59] <Earthwings> dylan_: you're right. and i'd like the old reconfigure feature back, too
[21:00] <Earthwings> dylan_: but i guess the old entries should still be valid, no?
[21:00] <dylan_> Earthwings: Actually, they are not. I had saved my old xorg.conf file and it just ignores it.
[21:00] <dylan_> And the one that kubuntu created during installation is pretty bare bones. It's almost empty.
[21:02] <Laruft> I've installed the ubuntu. now considering switching to kubuntu - should I do a complete format/re-install ?  also considering updating to the heron ver.  Unfortunately i've not kept track of changes to my current ubuntu install :-(
[21:03] <Laruft> I suppose i could run a diff and see the changes.
[21:03] <icewaterman> Laruft: you can have kde on ubuntu, no need to install kubuntu again
[21:03] <Earthwings> Laruft: i'd say that installing 'kubuntu-desktop' should give a pretty kubuntuish system
[21:03] <Laruft> and can I update to heron when it comes out without reinstalling?
[21:03] <Laruft> re-formatting even
[21:04] <Earthwings> Laruft: yes
[21:04] <icewaterman> Laruft: of course
[21:05] <dylan_> Laruft: I concur with the advise given, but if you have little of value in your existing installation, starting from a clean kubuntu install will mean that you need to upgrade fewer packages.
[21:05] <dylan_> If I were you, i would wait until the final release of Hardy and install that.
[21:06] <Laruft> i've set up a few things.  I am running ubuntu server+gnome desktop  have got webmin/squid/pureftpd/dnsmasq installed etc
[21:06] <dylan_> Laruft: Then, don't heed my advice
[21:07] <Laruft> well I am a n00b at linux, trying to switch from winxp completely
[21:07] <Laruft> still need to set up mail server/fetcmail?
[21:08] <Laruft> I wish i logged my changes to default install, as then I could re-setup any distro
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> guys, need help here
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> I have apt-get removed a package
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> and then rm -rf it's config dir
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> but it's still marked as "rc" - "removed, configs present"
[21:09] <rysiek|pl> so neither installation nor de-installation of that package now works
[21:10] <rysiek|pl> any pointers? tried purging, forcing, etc., nop luck
[21:10] <rysiek|pl> it's starting to be damn frustrating
[21:13] <Earthwings> rysiek|pl: why can't you install it?
[21:13] <Earthwings> rysiek|pl: what error messages do you get?
[21:14] <rysiek|pl> Earthwings: /usr/lib/courier/authlib/authdaemond: line 24: /etc/courier/authdaemonrc: No such file or directory
[21:14] <rysiek|pl> obviously... -_-'
[21:16] <Earthwings> rysiek|pl: when does it come up? during installation/purging of the package?
[21:16] <rysiek|pl> installation, purging, deleting, aptitude upgrade too
[21:17] <rysiek|pl> seems to me somebody fscked the packaging (why on earth the remove script actually tries to START the service?..)
[21:17] <Earthwings> ok, it might be part of the prerm/postconfig scripts
[21:17] <stdin> try "sudo touch /etc/courier/authdaemonrc", then purge
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> -_-'
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> worked like a charm
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> this is the moment to start bangin my dumb head against a wall
[21:19] <stdin> if it complains that it wants file to exist, create it ;)
[21:19] <JoshOvki> lol
[21:19] <rysiek|pl> well, it was a part of complaining about not being able to start the daemon
[21:19] <rysiek|pl> so I *assumed* an empty file will not dig it (there will be a syntax error or whatever)
[21:20] <rysiek|pl> and we all love assumptions, don't we
[21:20] <Earthwings> hehe
[21:21] <gromozekin> Hi, All!
[21:21] <iltechie> !bind
[21:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:21] <iltechie> !dns
[21:21] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[21:21] <gromozekin> !freebsd_install
[21:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd_install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:21] <DarkestHour> Hi gromozekin
[21:21] <gromozekin> !found_beer
[21:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about found_beer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:22] <gromozekin> )
[21:22] <gromozekin> hi
[21:22] <gromozekin> heh.
[21:22] <gromozekin> today i ve already installed kubuntu 7.10.
[21:22] <rysiek|pl> !patch_kde2_for_freebsd
[21:22] <gromozekin> ))))))))))))))))))
[21:22] <iltechie> !offtopic
[21:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:23] <gromozekin> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:23] <DarkestHour> Alrighty.
[21:23] <gromozekin> offtopic == windows?
[21:23] <DarkestHour> Offtopic means non support talk.
[21:23] <tsb> Hi. I run  kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-proposed" however "version upgrade" does not appear (gutsy to heron)
[21:24] <gromozekin> Hi. Why when I use Adept Manager its download old packages (for example, Pidgin 2.2.1). I suppose it`s because default repo
[21:25] <gromozekin> can you name me smth more repos
[21:26] <stdin> 0.2.0 of a release is that important to you?
[21:26] <stdin> tsb: try enabling gutsy-proposed first
[21:26] <gromozekin> maybe there are some changes (about security etc)
[21:26] <tsb> stdin: I've reduced my source.list file to 1 line; deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universe restricted multiverse
[21:27] <stdin> gromozekin: if there were security updates they'd have been backported already
[21:27] <gromozekin> ok
[21:27] <gromozekin> + how to use ndiswrapper (cheers cause i ve google)
[21:27] <stdin> tsb: then you need to add another "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed main universe restricted multiverse"
[21:27] <stdin> !wifi
[21:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:27] <stdin> there's a whole section ^there
[21:28] <maco> why would my keyboard work in every app except KMail's email composer?
[21:28] <tsb> stdin: okay now sources.list has those two lines; still no "version upgrade" though..
[21:28] <stdin> tsb: have you clicked the "Fetch Updates" button?
[21:29] <tsb> stdin: yes
[21:29] <tsb> stdin: and tried quitting/starting again after
[21:29] <julie> hi, the resolution of my kdm login screen is much higher than the resolutioon of the screen , any idea how to fix this
[21:29] <maco> typing the email in gedit and pasting into KMail shouldn't be the only way to send one
[21:30] <stdin> tsb: I'd recommend enabling "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main universe restricted multiverse" too, then do an upgrade of any package. then see if adept will work with it. if not then pop into #kubuntu-devel
[21:31] <julie> will kde4 comeout on hardy
[21:31] <stdin> it already is
[21:31] <maco> How do i send an encrypted email? It keeps saying the identity's not defined, but shouldn't it just pull the key that goes with the email address to which it's addressed?
[21:31] <gromozekin> damn
[21:31] <DarkestHour> julie: it's in the "Remix" version as default.
[21:32] <julie> I have installed two languages on my system, persian and english.. I have them both but now I want to go back to english. I have selected that but skill the kmenu and some other features are set in persian any ideas?
[21:32] <ubuntu> salve a tutti
[21:33] <tsb> stdin: thanks, it didn't work so I'm going there then
[21:33] <thanos> hallo?
[21:33] <thanos> ich bins gast287
[21:33] <stdin> !de | thanos
[21:33] <ubotu> thanos: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:34] <stdin> !it | ubuntu
[21:34] <ubotu> ubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:34] <maco> does anyone here know how to use kmail?
[21:36] <julie> maco: what specifically do you have problem using?
[21:36] <maco> julie: it says it cant find encryption keys
[21:36] <maco> julie: but i know the key is in my gpg key list
[21:36] <latitu_> wh
[21:37] <julie> maco: sorry I don't know how to use pgp..
[21:37] <julie> someone else might be able to help hang around
[21:37] <maco> evolution could find the key, but claimed it didnt match the person i'm sending to....i guess it's time to try thunderbird againb
[21:37] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:38] <Earthwings> maco: gpg -K is fine?
[21:39] <p_quarles> latitu_, do you have kdm installed?
[21:40] <latitu_> p_quarles yes.
[21:40] <Earthwings> maco: where are you trying to configure it? you need to setup each identiy (email adress)
[21:40] <maco> Earthwings: gpg -K? whats that do?
[21:41] <p_quarles> latitu_, and it's set to start automatically? (ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm )
[21:41] <Earthwings> maco: that lists the gpg keys you configured, just to ensure that gpg itself works fine
[21:41] <maco> Earthwings: it just lists my keys. i want to encrypt a message for somebody else
[21:42] <p_quarles> maco, and you've signed their key already?
[21:42] <maco> normaly id use gedit and copy and paste, but i need to get the attachment to be encrypted too
[21:42] <maco> p_quarles: no
[21:42] <p_quarles> I'm no gpg expert, but don't you have to sign their key before you can make them a recipient?
[21:43] <Earthwings> p_quarles: you need his public key, yes
[21:43] <maco> p_quarles: that seems like it'd be silly...if every person that sent you anything signed your key, your key would be MASSIVE
[21:43] <maco> i have the public key
[21:44] <maco> so somewhere in kmail i have to link together his email address and his key, even though his email address is in his key?
[21:44] <Earthwings> maco: no
[21:44] <Earthwings> maco: you need to setup your own email adress for gpg, that's all
[21:45] <maco> i set it up for signing
[21:45] <Earthwings> maco: kmail -> configure -> identities -> choose your email adresss -> change -> cryptography -> open pgp key -> Change -> Choose
[21:45] <maco> it wont let me for encrypting
[21:45] <maco> encrypting an email for someone else shouldn't require my key though
[21:45] <maco> just theirs
[21:46] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:47] <maco> when i try to set my own encryption key in kmail, it puts a red X over it and turns off the OK button
[21:48] <latitu_> when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[21:48] <p_quarles> latitu_, before repeating your question, perhaps you could answer my last one?
[21:49] <julie> my kde resolution is too hight.. kdm actually how do I fix this?
[21:49] <maco> er....why does hitting the Send button in KMail ask if i want to leave the editor?
[21:50] <p_quarles> maco, what version of kmail are you using?
[21:50] <latitu_> p_quarles $ ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm
[21:50] <latitu_> S13kdm
[21:50] <maco> p_quarles: whatever's in hardy
[21:51] <p_quarles> latitu_, okay, what happens if (from the terminal) you type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start (instead of startx)
[21:51] <p_quarles> maco, the KDE3 version or KDE4?
[21:51] <maco> p_quarles: there is no kde4 version
[21:51] <ubuntu> if someone doesnt mind helping a true newb out with a LinuxMCE install that i efed up
[21:51] <rysiek|pl> oh yes there is
[21:51] <latitu_> p_quarles sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[21:52] <latitu_> Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.
[21:52] <p_quarles> latitu_, weird; try running the script with "restart" then
[21:52] <maco> rysiek|pl: was that to me?  kde4 version of kdepim's not out yet
[21:52] <maco> and certainly not in hardy's repo
[21:53] <latitu_> p_quarles how do i put it in init.d ? i think thats what is missing?
[21:53] <rysiek|pl> maco: ah, thought you were talking about KDE as a whole
[21:53] <rysiek|pl> maco: sorry about that
[21:53] <ubuntu> does anyone here have experiance with MCE?
[21:53] <p_quarles> latitu_, umm, it's not there?
[21:54] <latitu_> p_quarles how do i check?
[21:54] <maco> latitu_: if it could say "already running" then it's there
[21:54] <p_quarles> ls /etc/init.d
[21:54] <p_quarles> +1 what maco said
[21:54] <p_quarles> anyway, like I said: run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[21:55] <ubuntu> can anyone help out with formating a HD from the live CD
[21:55] <ubuntu> ?
[21:55] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: what are you trying to do
[21:56] <maco> is KMail *supposed* to tell you that some mythical external editor is running and then ask if you want to abort it when you click Send?
[21:56] <p_quarles> ubuntu, run gparted and format the drive . . .
[21:56] <ubuntu> I installed Kubuntu, then installed LinuxMCE but only installed the core, now im left with evertime I start up I get the MCE manager
[21:56] <latitu_> how to reconfigure xserver?
[21:57] <Pliskin> or QtParted if it's the kubuntu Live CD
[21:57] <julie> is there a way to configure xorg?
[21:57] <julie> !xorg
[21:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:57] <p_quarles> maco, kmail has the option to use an alternate editor, but it's not the default setting
[21:57] <p_quarles> I've never seen it ask that out of the box, honestly
[21:57] <maco> p_quarles: kmail's settings thing scares me so much i didnt change anything but add my gpg key for signing
[21:57] <ubuntu> When I hit alt cnt F1 it asked for my router  username and pass
[21:58] <latitu_> how to reconfigure xserver?
[21:58] <ubuntu> so now I figure ill just formate and start all over
[21:58] <Pliskin> latitu_ : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:58] <rysiek|pl> latitu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:58] <rysiek|pl> darn
[21:58] <rysiek|pl> too late ;)
[21:58] <latitu_> thx
[21:58] <Pliskin> :)
[21:58] <ubuntu> is gparted in the live CD or is that a command?
[21:59] <Pliskin> it's a gui :)
[21:59] <ubuntu> lol as you can see im a total newb =/
[21:59] <Pliskin> but you have to use QtParted instead if it's the kubuntu Live CD
[21:59] <p_quarles> maco, that's definitely weird; maybe just delete ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc?
[22:00] <ubuntu> sweet found Qtparted
[22:00] <Pliskin> ubuntu : gui = graphical user interface
[22:01] <maco> p_quarles: and now it says it cant send emails with SMTP using the same settings with which evolution succeeds -_-
[22:01] <latitu_> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde
[22:01] <latitu_> Package `kde' is not installed and no info is available.
[22:01] <latitu_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[22:01] <latitu_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[22:01] <p_quarles> latitu_, kde is a meta-package; kubuntu uses a different one called kubuntu-desktop
[22:01] <p_quarles> reconfiguring it wouldn't do anything, though
[22:02] <Pliskin> latitu_ : you have to reconfigure xorg, not kde
[22:02] <maco> p_quarles: do you know how to just encrypt the file so i can attach it to an email in gmail and use gedit with the seahorse plugin to encrypt a message that i can then copy and paste into the body?
[22:02] <latitu_> Pliskin ok
[22:03] <p_quarles> maco, gpg -r "recipient_identifier" --encrypt /path/to/file
[22:03] <maco> p_quarles: what's recipient identifier? their key id?
[22:03] <p_quarles> maco, add the --armor argument if you want it in ascii instead of binary
[22:03] <p_quarles> maco, anything that's associated with their public key and is unique, so the key id would work
[22:03] <maco> p_quarles: its a pdf. i think binary makes sense
[22:04] <ubuntu> if i formate the drive as NTFS will that work with linux?
[22:04] <maco> ubuntu: yes
[22:04] <Pliskin> No
[22:04] <maco> Pliskin: ntfs-3g
[22:04] <p_quarles> ubuntu, depends on what you mean by "work with"
[22:04] <Pliskin> you can read and write but for the / partition, you have to use the EXT3 system
[22:04] <p_quarles> read/write, yes, install linux on it: no
[22:04] <maco> or ext2 or reiser or xfs
[22:04] <Pliskin> +1 p_quarles
[22:04] <maco> or jfs
[22:05] <ubuntu> I have 2 drives, one i want to install ubuntu/LinuxMCE on other i want to store media on
[22:05] <maco> media storage can be NTFS just fine
[22:05] <ubuntu> ok then the other i do ntfs-3g?
[22:05] <maco> Pliskin: "no valid openpgp data found"
[22:06] <maco> h
[22:06] <maco> oh oops
[22:06] <maco> and that was at p_quarles
[22:06] <p_quarles> maco, well, the tutorial I read indicates you have to sign the recipients key before you can encrypt it for them
[22:06] <Pliskin> ubuntu : why not ext3 (or reiserfs) ?
[22:07] <ubuntu> ext3 for both will work?
[22:08] <p_quarles> ubuntu, yes -- the only reason to use ntfs is if you use Windows frequently with the drive
[22:08] <ubuntu> I had vista... which is why I am here now =)
[22:09] <sidux> im taking a look at kubuntu as a somewhat new linux user, and i had a couple questions. is kubuntu as powerful a kde desktop as others
[22:09] <Pliskin> ubuntu : you can use a driver on Windows tu read the ext3 partition :)
[22:09] <p_quarles> sidux, powerful? for what purpose?
[22:10] <josivan_> not
[22:10] <josivan_> ok
[22:11] <sidux> ive been doing some research on kde and gnome to find which i like better and kde for me is just as useable but more options are offered to me and i can do more where as in gnome it seems those options are hidden
[22:11] <maco> p_quarles: i screwed up and forgot the --encrypt part
[22:11] <maco> p_quarles: works fine :P
[22:11] <maco> Pliskin: only for xp...i dont think the driver works for vista
[22:12] <josivan_> sorre
[22:12] <sidux> and id seen some things concerning kubuntu where stuff had been simplified or stripped down and thought id ask some kubuntu users thier thoughts
[22:12] <windol> ninguém está entendendo nada do que estou digitando aqui né?
[22:12] <ubuntu> in QTparted, I select the volume, do a format (Ext3) then the bar turns purple but it does not seem to do anything
[22:13] <p_quarles> sidux, KDE in Ubuntu is almost unchanged from Debian -- everything's there, very little is added from the default release
[22:13] <p_quarles> !br | windol
[22:13] <ubotu> windol: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:13] <josivan_> e verdade
[22:14] <Pliskin> ubuntu : apply the changes
[22:14] <josivan_> brasileiro
[22:14] <Pliskin> (excuse my english)
[22:14] <rysiek|pl> !br | josivan_
[22:14] <ubotu> josivan_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:15] <ubuntu> apply changes did the trick =)
[22:15] <Earthwings> dylan_: i played around with xorg configuration, modelines and the like still work here
[22:16] <XenThraL> hi, can anyone tell me if its ok to use GPL'ed fonts in a closed source app?
[22:17] <Pliskin> if it's LGPL, yes
[22:17] <XenThraL> the font?
[22:17] <Pliskin> yes
[22:18] <XenThraL> and if its GPL'ed, I'd have to GPL my app?
[22:18] <ubuntu> Why is it that after you formate the drive there is still  9gb of 200 still used?
[22:19] <Pliskin> XenThraL : exactly
[22:21] <sourcemaker_> is there a tasbar like apple for kde?
[22:22] <p_quarles> sourcemaker_, like the OS X dock? yes, kooldock
[22:22] <Earthwings> XenThraL: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException
[22:22] <sourcemaker_> p_quarles: i have tested kooldock... but it's not like the apple's one :-)
[22:23] <sourcemaker_> p_quarles: i like the 3D lock ind leopard :-)
[22:23] <XenThraL> Earthwings: yeah I had read that
[22:23] <XenThraL> it confused me more
[22:23] <XenThraL> :|
[22:23] <p_quarles> well, not exactly, no -- the development version (on kde-apps.org) is much better, but still not 3D really
[22:23] <p_quarles> AWN works fine with KDE, though, if you don't mind the dependencies
[22:24] <jparishy> Okay, so my computer dualboots both kubuntu and osx, and recently i resized my harddrive and now i can't get kubuntu to boot (it doesn't show up in the menu when i hold option on startup). Now, i am currently in a kubuntu livecd. any suggestions on what to do to fix this?
[22:25] <ManuP> jparishy, pastebin /boot/grub/menu.list and the output of sudo fdisk -l
[22:25] <Earthwings> XenThraL: depends on how you use the fonts in your software
[22:25] <XenThraL> opengl app
[22:25] <ManuP> jparishy, the bootloader is grup, or is it from osx??
[22:25] <ManuP> s/grup/grub
[22:26] <XenThraL> will make textures out of the font, then use the textures
[22:26] <jparishy> i usually use the osx loader, and then when i select linux, it starts up grub and boots linux
[22:26] <INIT_6> Installed the new 8.04 kubuntu. I have a nvidia 7600gs video card. I installed the drivers using the "Hardware Drivers Manager" under system. Told it to use the driver. Still couldn't change the rez past 640x.  So I tried the nvidia-settings tool. Still no luck. I turned it off in hardware drivers manager. Installed the driver by hand using the driver from nvidia's website. still no luck. any suggestions?
[22:26] <Earthwings> XenThraL: if you ship the gpl font as part of the program and the font does not have such an exception (see link), i'd say you cannot do that
[22:26] <Earthwings> XenThraL: otherwise i don't know :)
[22:26] <jparishy> This isn't the same computer, so give me a second to paste the above thins.
[22:26] <jparishy> things*
[22:27] <XenThraL> really shady part of the GPL
[22:27] <ManuP> jparishy, and the osx-loader doesnt show grub or does grub show up but without the entry for kubuntu?
[22:27] <XenThraL> no one can tell me anything for sure
[22:27] <jparishy> It doesn't show grub
[22:27] <Earthwings> XenThraL: i'm afraid you have to pay a lawyer for that
[22:27] <XenThraL> I can't afford a font :p
[22:27] <jparishy> Hm, something is wrong with the output of sudo fdisk -l
[22:28] <coggz>  can i get a copy of xp tablet pc edition? an iso? i have a licence key
[22:28] <Earthwings> hehe
[22:28] <ManuP> jparishy, so it has to do sth. with the osx-bootloader. sorry. i can not help you with this.
[22:28] <Earthwings> XenThraL: i'm sure there are some in the public domain or similar?
[22:28] <XenThraL> its hard to tell for sure when they are
[22:28] <ManuP> jparishy, what's wrong with the output?
[22:29] <jparishy> I'm thinking a fresh install of grub may help things, but I don't know how to do it. How would I reinstall it?
[22:29] <jparishy> Well
[22:29] <ManuP> jparishy, i can tell you that
[22:29] <Earthwings> jparishy: what does fdisk -l say?
[22:29] <Earthwings> jparishy: can you mount the partition from the livecd?
[22:29] <jparishy> It says "GPT detected on '/dev/sda'! ... doesn't support it, use gnu parted"
[22:29] <jparishy> Yes, i can mount it
[22:29] <Earthwings> jparishy: if not, grub won't be able to do anything
[22:29] <jparishy> and fdisk only shows /dev/sda1
[22:30] <jparishy> but all of them are there in /dev/
[22:30] <jparishy> /dev/sda1-4
[22:30] <Earthwings> GPT?
[22:30] <ManuP> Earthwings, right. i dont know what this is too
[22:30] <jparishy> (GUID Partition Table)
[22:30] <jparishy> ^^ from fdisk
[22:31] <ManuP> jparishy, did you pastebin the whole output of fdisk -l ?
[22:31] <jparishy> eh, give me too seconds. I'll be right back.
[22:33] <jparishy`> http://rafb.net/p/Puj7DT85.html
[22:34] <INIT_6> when you are using a glx or glx-new nvidia driver in the xorg.conf file to the right of driver should it be NV or NVIDIA?
[22:34] <jparishy`> That's the output for sudo fdisk -l
[22:34] <shaffy> can someone correct this fstab line for me?  i'm trying to mount my external usb hd (ext3).  "UUID=872ffa39-31e0-4c07-953d-b42bce34022c /0moon ext3 defaults,utf8,dmask=000,fmask=111,uid=0,auto,rw 0 1"
[22:35] <shaffy> i think the utf8 should not be there?
[22:35] <ManuP> jparishy, it is somehow weird that a dual-boot pc has only one partition...
[22:36] <jparishy> Right?
[22:36] <jparishy> http://rafb.net/p/76DRMH75.html
[22:36] <jparishy> /dev/sda1 - /dev/sda4
[22:36] <jparishy> They are there
[22:36] <jparishy> And I can mount it.
[22:38] <jparishy> ist
[22:38] <jparishy> Sorry, wrong window.
[22:38] <ManuP> jparishy, you german?
[22:38] <jparishy> No
[22:38] <ManuP> jparishy, i dont know what to do that fdisk shows the partition table correctly.
[22:39] <ManuP> jparishy, i think that during resizing sth. went wrong.
[22:39] <jparishy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -s /dev/sda3
[22:39] <jparishy> 25406797
[22:39] <jparishy> That's right.
[22:39] <ManuP> jparishy, if you want, i can tell you how to reinstall grub from live-cd. but i dont know if this is a good idea since the partition table seems to be broken
[22:41] <jparishy> qtparted shows the partition table just fine
[22:42] <ManuP> jparishy, well, then you might try reinstalling grub
[22:42] <jparishy> So how do you do it?
[22:43] <ManuP> jparishy, mount the hd with the boot-directory on. like sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[22:44] <jparishy> mhm
[22:44] <rakan> Hello, is there a form designer for wxWidgets on KDevelop:
[22:44] <rakan> ?
[22:45] <ManuP> jparishy, mount the devices: sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[22:45] <jparishy> k
[22:45] <ManuP> jparishy, then: sudo -o bind -t proc /proc /mnt/proc (2 more steps...)
[22:46] <jparishy> is that, "sudo mount ..."
[22:46] <jparishy> ?
[22:46] <ManuP> jparishy, yeah. sorry that i missed that
[22:46] <jparishy> np
[22:47] <jparishy> okay
[22:47] <ManuP> jparishy, chroot to mnt: sudo chroot /mnt    in the chroot, run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> rakan: I doubt it... there is a Python IDE for that though
[22:47] <ManuP> jparishy, that should it be
[22:47] <jparishy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[22:47] <jparishy> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[22:48] <jparishy> was i supposed to bind /bin too?
[22:48] <ManuP> jparishy, no
[22:48] <jparishy> Was that error supposed to happen then?
[22:48] <ManuP> jparishy, no
[22:49] <jparishy> :P
[22:49] <jparishy> What then?
[22:49] <ManuP> ^^
[22:49] <jparishy> So just run grub-install?
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> what are you doing?
[22:49] <jparishy> reinstalling grub from inside a livecd
[22:49] <ManuP> jparishy, it is important to run it with the device on which you want to install.
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt works better In my experience
[22:50] <jparishy> And that is hda, not sda3?
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> well, then it would be sda
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> adapt it for your particulat setup..
[22:51] <julie> help help
[22:51] <jparishy> Ah, okay. Gotcha
[22:51] <julie> I can't get rid of a language on my kde system..
[22:51] <julie> the kmenu is in persian
[22:51] <sisa> zdravím je tu někdo kdo mluví časky?
[22:51] <julie> i HAVE REMOVED the language
[22:51] <ManuP> jparishy, did it work without the chroot and specifying --root-directory?
[22:52] <jparishy> no
[22:52] <jparishy> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt
[22:52] <jparishy> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[22:52] <jparishy> Could not find device for /mnt/boot: Not found or not a block device.
[22:52] <julie> how do i get the language to change back to the original enlish please
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> oh.... you don't even have the grub files THERE...
[22:53] <ManuP> jparishy, try /dev/sda# where # is the number on which the /boot dir is
[22:53] <jparishy> Okay :P
[22:53] <Arrow_> Hi all
[22:53] <jparishy> Same error, ManuP
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> no..... DON"t do that!
[22:53] <jparishy> but if was to mount /dev/sda3, /boot/grub/ is there...
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> that turns that partition into a boot partition.
[22:54] <jparishy> It should be shouldn't it?
[22:54] <julie> can anyone help
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> no
[22:54] <jparishy> Well, it didsn't work anyway. Same error passing /dev/sda3
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: do mount it.... mount it to /mnt
[22:55] <jparishy> i have it mounted to /mnt/kubuntu atm
[22:55] <ManuP> jparishy, i got the error with block-device when i didnt chroot. but you can not chroot...
[22:55] <ManuP> jparishy, and you substituted /mnt all the time with /mnt/kubuntu ?
[22:55] <Arrow_> Hey I can't seem to get Kubuntu-KDE4 Desktop ot alt 64 bit to boot on my new Phenom machine..keeps saying kernel is corrupt
[22:55] <jparishy> And I have /dev binded to /mnt/dev and /proc binded to /mnt/proc
[22:56] <jparishy> :|
[22:56] <julie>  helelel
[22:56] <jparishy> no
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> Arrow_: gutsy or hardy?
[22:56] <jparishy> okay, let me do this one more time
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: lol
[22:56] <ManuP> jparishy, you have to mount /dev to /mnt/kubuntu then
[22:56] <Arrow_> hardy
[22:56] <ManuP> and /proc to /mnt/kubuntu/proc ^^
[22:56] <ManuP> jparishy, if you change things, change them right.
[22:56] <Arrow_> sorry forgot that piece
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: try "sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt/kubuntu
[22:57] <tiberius1701> hey i kinda new to linux, but have used irc in windows (mirc), is it normal to show my ip here in konversation, aint that kinda bad?
[22:57] <Arrow_> I can boot hardy 32
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> Arrow_: is that the RC or a daily live?
[22:57] <sisa> potřeboval bych poradit ale česky pokuď možne.
[22:57] <Arrow_> RC...the one with the KDE4
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> tiberius1701: you can mask it somehow... not sure how if you aren't affiliated with a org
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> Arrow_: ok, then  go to #ubuntu+1
[22:58] <jparishy> Okay, grub installation finished.
[22:58] <jparishy> Now reboot?
[22:58] <tiberius1701> ok ill google it she what i get
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[22:59] <ManuP> jparishy, yeah
[22:59] <jparishy> okay, reboot it is.
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> tiberius1701: but i'm sure windopws did that to you too
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> tiberius1701: I think there is an unaffiliated mask....
[22:59] <ManuP> jparishy, you will have to get partition table right i think...
[22:59] <jparishy> Is it safe to unmount everyting i mounted before reboot?
[23:00] <ManuP> jparishy, you can do that, but dont need.
[23:00] <jparishy> k
[23:00] <ManuP> jparishy, just sudo reboot
[23:00] <tiberius1701> i really cant remember in windows if it did it or not, i just happened to notice it now
[23:00] <Ketrel> I'm at a loss. I've changed everywhere I can think of, but my moniter still blanks after X ammount time. Could there be anywhere I'm missing?
[23:00] <jparishy> i'm out, i'll probably be back :P
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> ok
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> Ketrel: guidance-power-manager?
[23:02] <julie> can anyone help please
[23:02] <Ketrel> nosrednaekim: Only set to do something when batter is low
[23:02] <Ketrel> not set to do anything on idle
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> Ketrel: better check in there what the settings are for blanking the screen
[23:03] <julie> I have changed the language to persian then tried to change it back but its stuck on persian .. I have restarted kdm and x but no use.. any ideas?
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> Ketrel: ah.. never mind.
[23:03] <julie> help
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> julie: log in, go to system settings andchange it back
[23:06] <julie> nosrednaekim: yes that is goooood but it dosen't wok
[23:06] <julie> work
[23:07] <xanax`> hello
[23:07] <julie> damn it damn it
[23:07] <xanax`> does anyone know where I could find a Kubuntu 8.04 vmware image ?
[23:07] <julie> this is why I moved
[23:07] <julie> jdjdjdjk]#'
[23:07] <jparisshy> Nope :|
[23:08] <p_quarles> xanax`, doesn't vmware's site have one?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: what happened?
[23:08] <sisa> hello. Please needed any program in connection at phone mauger infra
[23:09] <xanax`> it has 7.10
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> julie: make a new user and log in as him :)
[23:09] <jparishy> just went and booted up osx
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: you are on a mac?
[23:09] <jparishy> yes
[23:10] <sisa> just went and booted up osx
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: hum, I think grub does not work with them...
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> !mac
[23:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:11] <julie> nosrednaekim: thats not a fix
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> julie: uhh, yeah it is
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> julie: do you use kmail or konqueror?
[23:13] <julie> nosrednaekim: you don't even know what m,y problem is
[23:14] <jparishy> Gah.
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> julie: yes I do, just answer the question
[23:14] <jparishy> Sorry, I just don't have the time to keep doing this.
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> jparishy: google up a install guide for macs....
[23:14] <julie> the default language is set to uk english but i can still see persian
[23:14] <jparishy> By the way, nosrednaekim: This worked before, i recently resized on of the partitions, and since then it doesn't work.
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> oh... ok
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> I think it sounds like a Mac problem personally
[23:17] <julie> nosrednaekim: kmail and konqueror are two different programs
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> julie: I know, but they both store configs in .kde
[23:19] <ManuP> jparishy, i still believe it has to do sth. with the osx bootloader
[23:19] <poseidon> I have been trying to set up my wireless adapter to work in kubuntu with the guide given to me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236  I did all the steps, and got this http://pastebin.com/m58bbc68f
[23:19] <poseidon> 8.04
[23:19] <julie> nosrednaekim: what are you getting at
[23:19] <ManuP> jparishy, and i do know nothing about mac, so sorry. reinstalling grub was a stitch in the blue...
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> julie: erasing your configuration files
[23:21] <julie> this is clearly a bug..
[23:21] <julie> it should be fixed
[23:23] <nosrednaekim> julie: so? do you use them?
[23:23] <julie> I do
[23:23] <jparishy> Sorry, for some reason my macbook isn't charging so when i unplugged it, it turned off
[23:24] <shaffy> can someone help me with my fstab of an external harddrive?  "LABEL=Biggie /0moon ext3 auto,users,rw 0 1";  for some reason tho, i can't write
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> julie: err, forget erasing all the configs then.... just a minute and I'll try finding the correct file
[23:25] <ManuP> jparishy, i still believe it has to do sth. with the osx bootloader
[23:25] <ManuP> jparishy, and i do know nothing about mac, so sorry. reinstalling grub was a stitch in the blue...
[23:25] <zero88> Can someonoe tell me how to power a device with a usb port. I have my mp3 connected that way and it doesnt seem like its powering it.
[23:25] <ManuP> that was what i wrote last
[23:25] <jparishy> no worries
[23:26] <ManuP> zero88, the 5V of usb should always be on the cable.
[23:27] <ManuP> gn8
[23:27] <zero88> ManuP, Hmm. Doesnt seem like it is. Is there a way to verify?
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> Wasn't sometime back, kubuntu was having a contest on a new website design? What is the latest on that?
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: should come up with hardy
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> I think
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: I hope so... They should use oxygen style icons :)
[23:43] <shaffy> is anyone able to help me with my fstab mount permissions for my external ext3 formatted HD?  i can't seem to write.  "LABEL=ExtHD /extHD ext3 defaults,user,rw 0 1
[23:46] <poseidon> I have been trying to set up my wireless adapter to work in kubuntu with the guide given to me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236  I did all the steps, and got this http://pastebin.com/m58bbc68f
[23:46] <poseidon> I'm using kubuntu 8.04
[23:48] <julie>  the problem is I changed my system lang to persian then tried to change it back to english but now its stuck on persian, kde menu is stuck on persian
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> julie: you will have to log out for all changes to take effect
[23:50] <julie> Odd-rationale: I have done that
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> shaffy: I had a similar problem
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> shaffy: I solved it by reformating with mkfs.ext3: mkfs.ext3 -L <youdisklabelhere> /dev/<device>
[23:52] <julie> help
[23:52] <julie> please I can't fix this problem
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> shaffy: be sure it is unmounted before trying that commnad though
[23:53] <oldmanemu> poseidon: according to your pastebin, your wifi is working.
[23:54] <poseidon> oldmanemu, thats what I was told earlier, however I don't have any sort of internet connection
[23:55] <ghittsum> I just installed kubuntu, does anyone know how you login as root, and what its default password is?
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> !sudo | ghittsum
[23:55] <ubotu> ghittsum: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[23:55] <haker> is it possible in anyway to use visualbasic?
[23:55] <oldmanemu> poseidon: right click the icon in your system tray and click the wireless network you want connect to !
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> !root | ghittsum
[23:55] <ubotu> ghittsum: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:55] <ghittsum> lol
[23:55] <ghittsum> thanks
[23:55] <poseidon> oldmanemu, I tried, and it failed.  It says that it has a signal strenght of -1
[23:56] <oldmanemu> poseidon: how far away is your router?
[23:57] <hari_seldon99> Hi. I just upgraded my kubuntu kernel and now the KDE popup for USB devices doesn't how when I plug my thumbdrive in (although /var/log/messsages shows detection)
[23:57] <poseidon> oldmanemu, close enough.  I averaged about 800-900 kb/s downloading kubuntu with the router
[23:57] <hari_seldon99> *doesn't show
[23:59] <oldmanemu> poseidon: I know this maybe a silly q. but is the antenna connected to the wifi card?


[18:19] <meena> gonna move some code around…!
[18:20] <meena> anybody wanna help?
[19:47] <meena> Odd_Bloke: dunno why i thought starting on this https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/363#issuecomment-628829489 would be the best idea…
[19:47] <meena> perhaps, i shouldn't.
[19:47] <meena> but, as i have noted previously, the other cloudinit/net functions are very rarely used… perhaps thats the why


[08:48] <JonathanD> Morning
[09:28] <rmg51> Morning
[12:13] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[13:15] <InHisName> morning assorted motley crew
[16:29]  * ChinnoDog sips some coffee
[22:23]  * waltman sips some ice water and tries to cool off


[08:00] <nhaines> Happy new year, everyone!
[14:19] <nhandler> Same to you nhaines :)
[15:56] <pleia2> happy new year :)
[18:39] <lynorian> happy new year to *


[02:09] <imgbot> [03:24] <imgbot> [03:24] <imgbot> [14:31] <ogra_> hmpf, today i didnt have a unity crash, just a hard hang of the UI
[14:31] <ogra_> (top didnt reveal anything, no new .crash files
[14:31] <ogra_> )