[00:00] <nick_[nex]> if i reinstall ubuntu over top of an old ubuntu install, will it erase my old home folder?
[00:00] <yow|laptop> kintarotpc - that sounds like an old compiz bug
[00:00] <dwiz> guys
[00:00] <whoDat> where are the kernel modules on the ubuntu cdrom? i need to reinstall the original version of a module
[00:00] <Flannel> nick_[nex]: If your homefolder isn't on its own partition, yes.
[00:00] <teenbeat2007> hi guys
[00:00] <dr_willis> nick_[nex],  it will want to format the / parttion. so yes basicially it will.  Unless you got /home/ on its own parittion.
[00:01] <Arog> hey can someone show me some good UIs for Ubuntu
[00:01] <yow|laptop> kintarotpc - that happened to me during testing an alpha and i had to switch to metacity as the wm and it went away
[00:01] <usser> whoDat: /lib/modules
[00:01] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop: hmm. It only started after a recent reboot and I did have some effects enabled. Thanks for the hint.
[00:01] <nick_[nex]> hmm is there any way around this? my home folder is *huge*, and i have no way of moving it
[00:01] <teenbeat2007> any one experience with ubuntu 64 bits
[00:01] <whoDat> usser: there is no lib directory on the cdrom starting at the root
[00:01] <usser> whoDat: on the live cd?
[00:02] <Flannel> nick_[nex]: fire up a live CD, erase everything else on the partition, and make that partition your home partition?
[00:02] <whoDat> yeah
[00:02] <usser> whoDat: hm im not sure where it is. sorry
[00:02] <Flannel> nick_[nex]: Unless you have enough space ot just move it to its own partition
[00:02] <Flannel> !separatehome | nick_[nex]
[00:02] <yow|laptop> kintarotpc - when you get the white screen, try pressing Alt-F2 and type metacity and press enter, see if that works
[00:03] <nick_[nex]> ah cheers guys, just saved me losing all my files ;)
[00:03] <yow|laptop> thats how i fixed mine, then disable your effects for the time being
[00:03] <Tyrath> for some reason when I install progs using the apt tool it never seems to install the .blahrc file
[00:03] <teenbeat2007> is ubuntu 64 bits compatible with geforce 9500 GT
[00:03] <teenbeat2007> nvidia
[00:03] <jokkah> lets say i add one file to crontab. this file is a very simple batch script, which just call perl scripts. so what happens is, i want to run all the scripts at the same time parallelaly and independently from each other... what can i do to acomplish this without having to add an entry for each script.pl in crontab?
[00:03] <supernoob> my internet connection is extermely unstable, even when i'm near the router and have good reception. what can i do to optimize my networking configuration?
[00:03] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop: Thanks. Be right back.
[00:03] <jokkah> supernoob: wireless is unsafe..
[00:04] <jokkah> supernoob: use cables instead
[00:04] <Tyrath> !geforce | teenbeat2007
[00:04] <Flannel> jokkah: Adding separate entries isn't the end of the world.
[00:04] <teenbeat2007> yes
[00:04] <dr_willis> teenbeat2007,  my nvidia cards work find with 64bit
[00:04] <Tyrath> !GeForce
[00:04] <supernoob> well, it's what i have in my house. cables aren't really an option for me right now
[00:04] <supernoob> true as that may be
[00:04] <teenbeat2007> yes Tyrath
[00:04] <Tyrath> teenbeat2007: is GeForce nvidia?
[00:04] <teenbeat2007> yes
[00:04] <Tyrath> !nvidia | teenbeat2007
[00:05] <jokkah> Flannel: i know, but the problem is i dont want ppl touching the crontab.... so they would only touch one file
[00:05] <supernoob> jokkah, could it ahve something to do with my wireless card?
[00:05] <Tyrath> teenbeat2007: hopefully there should be something on what's compatible with ubuntu
[00:05] <teenbeat2007> ok cause when i start the live cd my monitor is in blur
[00:05] <gerob> dr_willis:  By the restricted driver manager you mean the one named Hardware Manager?
[00:05] <teenbeat2007> all stripes
[00:05] <jokkah> supernoob: i dont know, but i only hear problems with ppl who use wireless...
[00:05] <jokkah> supernoob: i dont know, but i only hear problems with ppl who use wireless... (windows, linux, whatever.. the wireless is the problem)
[00:05] <dr_willis> gerob,  proberly- they keep changing its name.
[00:05] <Flannel> jokkah: "the" crontab?  Each user has a separate one. (or can)
[00:06] <dr_willis> !find jockey
[00:06] <IndyGunFreak> jokkah: lol, i've never had a problem w my wireless.. people that have probs w/ wireless, are people who don't properly secure their network
[00:06] <IndyGunFreak> supernoob: what wireless device are you tryin to get working?
[00:06] <yow|laptop> teenbeat2007 - ive seen that before, try leaving it longer, that happened to me before, but only during boot
[00:06] <dr_willis> gerob,  from the cli the command is  jockey-gtk :)
[00:06] <supernoob> well all i know is the mac user in my house has no problems, ditto the vista/gateway user
[00:06] <Tyrath> teenbeat2007: that is really weird. i'm guessing you are trying to install the 64 bit version. have you tried installing the 32 bit version?
[00:06] <supernoob> seamless internet for everyone but the kid running ubuntu on the new acer
[00:06] <Tyrath> teenbeat2007: or are you 100% sure your pc can take the 64 bit version?
[00:06] <jokkah> Flannel: mhmm word!:)
[00:06] <yow|laptop> supernoob - maybe try a fixed ip address?
[00:07] <teenbeat2007> Its a quad core amd pc
[00:07] <supernoob> yow|laptop: how's that work?
[00:07] <teenbeat2007> aswel hdd en mainboard en cpu are compatible with 64
[00:08] <yow|laptop> you can set it through network manager supernoob, it might not do anything, but it could prevent ip conflicts if you are using dhcp in the environment
[00:08] <teenbeat2007> can i change maxrate of the live cd tyrath
[00:08] <Arog> something is wierd with my dell xps 1330. when I do not type, my wifi light is always on, but when I start typing it starts flashing. anyone know what's up with that?
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> supernoob: what problem are you havign on the acer?.. can you not see wireless networks, or what?
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> Arog: its transmitting your messages to the CIA and Secret Service. don't worry about it.
[00:09] <supernoob> inygunfreak: i fidn the networks fine. when i'm connected, i just randomly lose the connection
[00:09] <dr_willis> Arog,  well when you type on IRC. :) its sending the text?
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> supernoob: ah, i see.. no clue on that one
[00:09] <gerob> What is the command to close my X server again?  Even the envyng-qt doesnt work...
[00:10] <teenbeat2007> Tyrath: ive just checkt all my hardware is 32 and 64 capable
[00:10] <dr_willis> gerob,  if you really MUST use the nvidia instrallers.. go to console (alt-ctrl-f1) and use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    to make X stop. then run the installer  'sudo sh whatever.run'
[00:10] <Arog> dr_willis:  no that doesn't happen in Windows
[00:10] <dr_willis> Arog,  its the esp type ahead feature! :)
[00:10] <Tyrath> teenbeat2007: sorry I don't know. I was going to point you to a Xorg.log but your trying to do a fresh install
[00:11] <Tyrath> !forums > teenbeat2007
[00:11] <teenbeat2007> mainboard and cpu are AM+ 4x2.300 ghz 4 gb ram
[00:11] <Arog> i'm actually serious about this though....
[00:11] <Tyrath> teenbeat2007: try reporting it there or on launchpad
[00:11] <redhat_> nick cup0beans
[00:12] <x1250> hey guys, is there any reason why ATI Radeon 9250 (9200 PRO in lspci) does not work with fglrx? envyng does not list any compatible ati driver for this card, and jockey-gtk does not list any driver either.
[00:12] <suwro1> hello
[00:13] <cup0beans> I have a wireless card that I need to modify the SPROM on and it needs the bcm43xx module. I'm running Intrepid, and when I do 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx' I get the error "FATAL: Module bcm43xx not found". Is there a way to install that module on 8.10?
[00:13] <suwro1> it is possible to do asyncronious routing using eth and wireless device? upload on eth and download from wireless?
[00:13] <Ochian> Test.
[00:14] <Sylphid> cup0beans, if i remember right its bcm43 not bcm43xx
[00:15] <Sylphid> cup0beans, sorry wrong again its b43
[00:15] <Ochian> !beer
[00:15] <Ochian> !bot
[00:15] <Tyrath> thanks for the help people
[00:15] <Tyrath> i'm out
[00:15] <Ochian> !microsoft
[00:15] <Ochian> !sex
[00:16] <cup0beans> Sylphid, how do I install that in intrepid?
[00:16] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop:  Slightly new problem now. heh. X can't detect my graphics card. Gnome works fine though.
[00:16] <kintarotpc> heh
[00:16] <Flannel> Ochian: Please stop abusing the bot.  If you're curious, use a query.
[00:16] <Sylphid> cup0beans, was thinking it came stock .... modprobe -l | grep b43
[00:16] <Ochian> k
[00:17] <Sylphid> !broadcom | cup0beans
[00:17] <cup0beans> Sylphid, b43 replaced bcm43xx
[00:17] <cup0beans> I need bcm43xx for this particular card
[00:18] <Sylphid> cup0beans, i think bcm43xx is blacklisted
[00:18] <Sylphid> cup0beans, try removing it from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[00:19] <dr_willis> You still need to install that b43-fwcutter dont ya?
[00:19] <dr_willis> !info b43-fwcutter
[00:19] <Sylphid> cup0beans, i would reccommend blacklisting b43 to so you dont get a conflict
[00:19] <JHook101> I would like to know why all of a sudden my sound does not work and in the music player the option to increase or decrease volume has gone grey and unclickable
[00:20] <JHook101> !ask
[00:20] <JHook101> Anyone know a answer to that?
[00:21] <Spreadsheet_> hi
[00:22] <JHook101> cany anyone answer my question there are 325 people in here
[00:22] <Spreadsheet_> i have a logitech quickcam pro 4000 and i am using cheese to view it
[00:22] <JHook101> *1325
[00:22] <Spreadsheet_> when i use cheese, a green square comes up
[00:22] <yow|laptop> kintarotpc - not sure what you mean - how does gnome work if your graphics card doesn't work?
[00:23] <meekatron> hello i have remote ssh sessions connected to my server, how can i close these from the server
[00:23] <kintarotpc> Well, it's mostly working, it's just using a generic driver Can't get resolutions higher than 800x600. Guess I need to reinstall my drivers.
[00:25] <yow|laptop> kintarotpc - nvidia or ati
[00:25] <kintarotpc> ati
[00:25] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop:  I actually still have the .run file from amd/ati
[00:25] <yow|laptop> they may have been removed during an upgrade or overwritten which could account for your effects not working, i would try to reinstall them as you mentioned
[00:26] <Arog> when looking for themes at gnome-look.org should I look for GTK 2.x, compiz, or what?
[00:26] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop:  Come to think of it, that's probably what happened. I had an update come through the other day
[00:26] <Arog> what kind of theme should I look for and what are the differences
[00:26] <Logomachist> Question- How does the Public folder work? Is it intended to be Public on the computer, the  network or the Internet?
[00:26] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop: Thanks for the pointers, by the way.
[00:28] <CmdPrmtMdnss> logo you can make any folder "public" by changing permissions
[00:28] <yow|laptop> np kintarotpc, GL
[00:28] <kintarotpc> ty
[00:29] <Arog> anyone know the difference between GTK 2.X, Metacity and compiz?
[00:30] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop: Hmm, installing the driver doesn't seem to have helped. Should I clear my xorg.conf file and try it again?
[00:30] <JHook101> my sound has quit working
[00:30] <JHook101> can anyone help me
[00:31] <Nomexous> !GTK
[00:31] <Matillo> I couldn't play music while I had left a youtube window open in firefox.
[00:31] <Nomexous> !metacity
[00:31] <dr_willis> metacity - is the default gnome window manager..
[00:31] <dr_willis> compiz - is a fancy window manager. with lots of effects
[00:31] <Matillo> but i haven't even started on customizing my sound stuff yet
[00:31] <IndyGunFreak> Matillo: switch from pulse-audio to alsa
[00:32] <mysteryc> Hey
[00:32] <mysteryc> Does anybody want help cause I'm really bored and I wanna do something;p
[00:32] <JHook101> I have been askign for help
[00:32] <Logomachist> I have an easy question
[00:32] <JHook101> Regarding my sound not working
[00:32] <Logomachist> How does the Public folder work? Is it intended to be Public on the computer, the  network or the Internet?
[00:32] <Ochian> Depends on how much you know about Firestarter.
[00:32] <Arog> got it thanks nomexous
[00:32] <mysteryc> JHook101: Did you check alsa-mixer?
[00:33] <JHook101> I have no diea what that is
[00:33] <JHook101> *idea
[00:33] <mysteryc> JHook101: Ok, you new on Linux?
[00:33] <JHook101> yes
[00:33] <mysteryc> JHook101: Ok.
[00:33] <dwiz> guys
[00:34] <dwiz> just a little request
[00:34] <JHook101> it was working earlier I was listening to a radio station live on firefox
[00:34] <mysteryc> JHook101: Was the sound working before?
[00:34] <dwiz> for those that know
[00:34] <JHook101> then when i closed it no more sound
[00:34] <mysteryc> JHook101: Ok. I assume you checked that everything that has to do with wiring is plugged in correctly right?
[00:34] <dwiz> can anybody give me a working tutorial on postfix mysql and courier on ubntu
[00:34] <JHook101> and in the default music player on ubuntu it does not give me option to adjust volume anymore either
[00:34] <yow|laptop> kintarotpc - perhaps rename it as a backup and then do a reconfigure for xorg
[00:34] <dwiz> ubuntu?
[00:34] <JHook101> yea
[00:34] <JHook101> I check the wiring nothing has changed
[00:34] <dwiz> besides flurdy and howtoforge
[00:35] <Matillo> Nawp, switching to alsa didn't change that.
[00:35] <mysteryc> JHook101: Ok. Well, if you didn't download any other sound managing package, you are probably running alsa. Alsa takes care of everything that has to do with sound.
[00:35] <mysteryc> JHook101: Open up a terminal and type in alsa-mixer.
[00:35] <Necrosan> Is it possible to upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 8.10 without reinstalling?
[00:36] <JHook101> said command not found
[00:36] <mysteryc> Necrosan: Without re-installing? Yes, you can upgrade online. Go at the update notifications, there should be an option.
[00:36] <yow|laptop> alsamixer has no dash
[00:36] <Necrosan> mysteryc: in update manager?
[00:36] <Paul[0]> I'm trying to boot an ubuntu 8.10 cd but it gives "no valid modes found" when it should be loading the desktop. S3 savage driver. No matter what i choose, i wind up with a black screen forever...
[00:36] <mysteryc> JHook101: Oh, yes, sorry. alsamixer with no dash.
[00:36] <NDPTAL85> Anyone in here use X-Chat?
[00:36] <mysteryc> Thank you, yow|laptop.
[00:36] <Matillo> ksirc.
[00:36] <JHook101> ok a screen with abrs came up
[00:36] <mysteryc> Necrosan: Yes.
[00:36] <dwiz> i use xchat
[00:36] <yow|laptop> np
[00:37] <NDPTAL85> dwiz: Whats the keyboard command to bring the menubar back? I closed mine by accident
[00:37] <mysteryc> JHook101: Ok, use your arrow keys to navigate through. Is any bar turned off? I mean is there any bar which is not filled?
[00:37] <kattollikisd> so one here know... where I can find some Usplash for GNOME? (Not gnome-look.org pleases)
[00:37] <JHook101> the surround and lfe bar are
[00:38] <dwiz> don't know
[00:38] <dwiz> :|
[00:38] <Necrosan> darn
[00:38] <Necrosan> guess it wont work
[00:38] <dwiz> i dont use mirc that much
[00:38] <mysteryc> kattollikisd: Check www.gnome.org. I think there is a section for themes, including splashes.
[00:38] <Necrosan> it is a sparc64 system
[00:38] <McFrosty> How do I "compile" games that use the Quake3 engine for the PowerPC anyone?
[00:38] <NDPTAL85> dwiz: You said you used xchat. mirc is a windows app.
[00:38] <mysteryc> JHook101: Naviagate to them and use the up arrow key to fill them up.
[00:39] <NDPTAL85> Anyways someone in another channel let me know the key combo
[00:39] <dwiz> :)
[00:39] <dwiz> sory
[00:39] <dwiz> I use it for the same reson
[00:39] <dwiz> I use it for the same reason
[00:39] <Ochian> What was it, NDPTAL85?
[00:39] <owh> When I run aptitude install libvirt-bin, it installs three packages: dnsmasq-base libvirt-bin netcat-openbsd -- but when I run aptitude purge libvirt-bin, it only wants to remove dnsmasq-base libvirt-bin -- this makes no sense. Why is this happening?
[00:39] <NDPTAL85> CTRL+F9
[00:39] <gogereaver> McFrosty eer you cant without the sourcecode
[00:39] <JHook101> ok i filled them
[00:39] <dwiz> right now I need some help with postfix on ubuntu
[00:40] <mysteryc> JHook101: Ok. Now try and play something and let me know if it works. :)
[00:40] <Matillo> owh: sounds like it doesn't want to uninstall common packages. you could do them manually?
[00:40] <yamazaki> Im having a hugeproblem getting my soundcard working on an hp pavilion laptop dv6000
[00:40] <yamazaki> could someone help me out?
[00:40] <kattollikisd> mysteryc, thanks
[00:40] <yamazaki> please :]
[00:40] <JHook101> still does not work
[00:40] <owh> Matillo: But aptitude installed netcat-openbsd automatically, shouldn't it remove it automatically as well?
[00:41] <enovativ> i have used cfdisk to try to create a bootable usb stick and i get an error that says "Wrote partition tabe, but re-read table failed.  Rebot to update table."  i have tried to reboot my ubuntu box, and run cfdisk again...that didn't work.  how can i get the new partition that i create to write to the usb stick using cfdisk.  i need to mention that i use the ( -z ) switch when i initally start cfdisk
[00:41] <yamazaki> I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto and the only success is that it now shows an audio device on settings
[00:41] <Matillo> Not if other packages may be using netcat-openbsd.
[00:41] <enovativ> i am also trying to crete a bootable usb stick using the FAT16 filesystem
[00:41] <mysteryc> JHook101: Hmm, sorry then I don't know because I am not even on my Linux now I am on Windows cause I am running this software that I can't run on Linux called Final Draft so I can't check for anything myself.
[00:41] <owh> Matillo: The two commands are run in sequence, no other installs inbetween.
[00:42] <JHook101> anyon else to help me with audio problem?
[00:42] <Matillo> The uninstaller can't check dependancies on packages that aptitude happened to depend on.
[00:42] <Matillo> There may be a way to run some sort of cleanup, but I dunno.
[00:42] <McFrosty> how do i acess the sourcecode or how do i get it?
[00:44] <owh> Matillo: But aptitude knows that it automatically installed netcat-openbsd as a result of installing libvirt-bin.
[00:44] <iShock> Can anyone help me find out if my drive can burn DVDs?
[00:44] <owh> Matillo: Otherwise I might just as well use apt-get.
[00:45] <owh> iShock: The simplest way is to check the logos on the front of the drive. Simpler than all other solutions.
[00:45] <w3wsrmn> iShock: ` sudo lshw -C class ` will list drive capabilities.
[00:45] <enovativ> i have used cfdisk to try to create a bootable usb stick and i get an error that says "Wrote partition tabe, but re-read table failed.  Rebot to update table."  i have tried to reboot my ubuntu box, and run cfdisk again...that didn't work.  how can i get the new partition that i create to write to the usb stick using cfdisk.  i need to mention that i use the ( -z ) switch when i initally start cfdisk
[00:45] <Matillo> Does aptitude know if you've installed anything else which may rely on those packages?
[00:45] <enovativ> i am also trying to crete a bootable usb stick using the FAT16 filesystem
[00:45] <McFrosty> how do I get the sourcecode to a game that uses a quake3 engine?
[00:46] <jrib> Matillo: yes...
[00:46] <jrib> McFrosty: is such a game in ubuntu's repositories?
[00:46] <Matillo> Sounds like a problem then, I dunno.
[00:46] <McFrosty> sorry what you mean by that...
[00:46] <iShock> w3wsrmn: Fail?
[00:46] <jrib> Matillo: huh?  What's a problem?
[00:47] <McFrosty> o no its not
[00:47] <Matillo> Oh, not uninstalling the packages if it already knows dependancies.
[00:47] <iShock> w3wsrmn: It just says 'PCI (sysfs)'
[00:47] <kintarotpc> yow|laptop: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reinstalling my video card driver saved the day. yay!
[00:47] <w3wsrmn> iShock: sorry, brain was thinking different than fingers. replace `class` with `disk`
[00:47] <jrib> Matillo: you're making less sense.  What exactly are you talking about?
[00:47] <Matillo> It was a response to owh.
[00:47] <owh> jrib: Did you see my original question?
[00:47] <jrib> McFrosty: then you would have to go to the project's home page and look for the source code
[00:47] <jrib> !who | Matillo
[00:47] <jrib> owh: nope
[00:48] <iShock> w3wsrmn: lee@Vertex:~/FrostWire/Saved$ `sudo lshw -C disk`
[00:48] <iShock> bash: *-disk: command not found
[00:48] <Matillo> owh is trying to make aptitude purge remove dependancies installed for it.
[00:48] <w3wsrmn> erm, sans `
[00:48] <owh> jrib: When I run aptitude install libvirt-bin, it installs three packages: dnsmasq-base libvirt-bin netcat-openbsd -- but when I run aptitude purge libvirt-bin, it only wants to remove dnsmasq-base libvirt-bin -- this makes no sense. Why is this happening?
[00:48] <McFrosty> where would i find the source code where to look for it at on the page?
[00:48] <pasal> türkçe  bilen varm0131?
[00:48] <Flannel> !tr | pasal
[00:48] <iShock> w3wsrmn:        capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
[00:49] <ardchoille> owh: you can remove unused deps with: sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:49] <w3wsrmn> iShock: looks like a cd/dvd player and cd writer, then
[00:49] <Logomachist> Hello?
[00:49] <iShock> w3wsrmn: So I can't write DVDs?
[00:49] <w3wsrmn> iShock: unfortunately not
[00:49] <BellinXFelon> gparted to format it to ext3 and xubuntu recognizes it but i cant put anything on it, any suggestions?
[00:49] <owh> ardchoille: I understand that, but why doesn't aptitude automatically already do this for something it installed. This is the whole point of using aptitude.
[00:49] <hmuller> hello fellow xubuntuers
[00:49] <BellinXFelon> its a seagate freeagent pro
[00:49] <iShock> w3wsrmn: Damn .. Any other ideas how I can install a 2.44GB ISO? VMware is tempting, but VMWare server is wayyyy to big for this box.
[00:50] <Flannel> owh: try sudo apt-get --simulate autoremove
[00:50] <Flannel> owh: oh
[00:50] <jrib> owh: what happens when you try to remove netcat-openbsd?
[00:50] <Flannel> owh: There's *no* real advantage to using aptitude over apt-get anymore
[00:51] <cYtAmNtmgi> HULLO I NEED SUM HALP@@@ CAN SUM1 HALP MI BUNTUZ
[00:51] <cYtAmNtmgi> HULLO I NEED SUM HALP@@@ CAN SUM1 HALP MI BUNTUZ
[00:51] <FloodBot3> cYtAmNtmgi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <dr_willis> 'Getting Help  on IRC : Epic Fail'
[00:51] <owh> jrib: It removes it without problems.
[00:51] <hmuller> Flannel:  Will apt-get automatically remove dependencies that an app installed?
[00:51] <owh> Flannel: Since when is that?
[00:51] <jrib> owh: and doesn't take anything else with it?
[00:51] <Flannel> owh: Since autoremove
[00:51] <owh> jrib: Nope.
[00:51] <Flannel> hmuller: Not automatically, you have to tell it you want to.
[00:52] <hmuller> Flannel: that is good news I was unaware of
[00:52] <ardchoille> owh: you used purge, and it does that.. did you use --purge-unused ?
[00:52] <w3wsrmn> iShock: I believe it's possible to split a DVD into CD sized ISOs, but I doubt the installer would realize the split, and never prompt for the other disks.
[00:52] <Flannel> hmuller: At least, as far as I'm aware.
[00:52] <iShock> w3wsrmn: It's the windows 7 ISO
[00:53] <owh> ardchoille: No. However, it automatically removes dnsmasq-base.
[00:53] <hmuller> iShock: Does your system have usb ports?
[00:53] <sysadmin> Hi Everyone
[00:53] <hmuller> h'lo back
[00:53] <iShock> hmuller: Ports, but no flash drives.
[00:53] <John`Anderzon> i have a little problem with Ubuntu... just installed it and there are some small vertical lines that kinda flash on the screen and is especially apparent on a dark background. how do we correct this?
[00:53] <sysadmin> is there any who can help me out with the data recovery using ubuntu ?
[00:53] <ardchoille> owh: dnsmasq-base may be dependent on the main app you installed, therefore it can't reside without it and needs to be removed
[00:54] <hmuller> iShock: and I assume you've no DVDrom drive?
[00:54] <yow|laptop> good to hear kintarotpc :) nice work
[00:54] <sysadmin> i have a hard disk from my old linux server ext3 based . .  now i want to retrieve data from that disk ?
[00:54] <iShock> hmuller: I can read, but not wrire.
[00:54] <iShock> WRite*
[00:54] <vigo> sysadmin: From the login screen.....?
[00:54] <owh> ardchoille: Not according to apt-cache
[00:55] <ardchoille> owh: no idea, the point is that you didn't use --purge-unused and aptitude was doing exactly what you asked.
[00:55] <sysadmin> i have just attached that hard drive to my new system based on ubuntu ?
[00:55] <hmuller> iShock: I missed all the early information, where do you want to install it?
[00:55] <iShock> hmuller: This box.
[00:55] <pasal> slm
[00:55] <pasal> millet  beni  duyan varm0131
[00:55] <iShock> hmuller: A VM would be fine, but VMWare server is too big.
[00:55] <pasal> turk0131sh?
[00:55] <hmuller> iShock:  What's wrong with qemu?
[00:55] <vigo> sysadmin: Ok,,I just read about the errors or bugs of ext3, one of them is backups,,,it was on wikipedia
[00:55] <iShock> hmuller: qemu?
[00:56] <owh> ardchoille: According to the depends for the three packages there is no difference between netcat-openbsd and dnsmasq-base, so if one is uninstalled, the other should also be.
[00:56] <earthmeLon> Hey guys!  I am trying to add a user to my laptop so that I can use it whenever I connect to an untrusted/insecure hotspot.  I want to do a number of things, like create startup scripts like /etc/init.d/XXX specifically for that user.  Also, I was wondering if there was a way to modify /etc/network/interfaces for only one user.  Any help would be greatly appreciated :D
[00:56] <sysadmin> vigo : thank you
[00:56] <hmuller> It's a processor emulator, I've used it to install winxp
[00:56] <sysadmin> can you please send me the link if youve got one
[00:56] <ardchoille> owh: that's not how it works with the command you used
[00:56] <hmuller> iShock: kvm works good too, if you have a processor that supports virtualization
[00:56] <ardchoille> owh: and perhaps you should be talking to the package maintainer?
[00:56] <iShock> hmuller: WTF are you talking about, pm me?
[00:57] <pasal> can you  speak  turk0131sh?
[00:57] <owh> ardchoille: First I'm trying to figure out why it's happening, otherwise all I'll be doing is lodging a bug that makes no sense.
[00:57] <hmuller> iShock: I don't know how to pm uxing xchat, gimme a sec and I'll send you a link to some reading material
[00:57] <ardchoille> owh: ok
[00:57] <John`Anderzon> sooo
[00:57] <John`Anderzon> ne1??? :((((
[00:57] <Flannel> !tr | pasal
[00:57] <John`Anderzon> ./me cries
[00:57] <iShock> hmuller: I don't have that much time, and seriously, /msg iShock MESASAGE.
[00:57] <owh> ardchoille: I still don't understand the point you're making about --purge-unused
[00:57] <ardchoille> hmuller: /query nick
[00:58] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  I was wondering if anyone has messed with the commandline interface to make it case-insensative?
[00:58] <Flannel> !patience | John`Anderzon
[00:58] <yow|laptop> which video card John`Anderzon
[00:58] <ardchoille> owh: --purge-unused purges unused packages
[00:58] <John`Anderzon> im using  geforce mx 44
[00:58] <John`Anderzon> someone told me i need to change the refresh rate on the vertical lines
[00:58] <vigo> sysadmin: still here?
[00:58] <sysadmin> yes
[00:58] <sysadmin> i am
[00:58] <yow|laptop> mx440. which driver? from the repo or from the nvidia site?
[00:59] <John`Anderzon> cuz it just looks like static like little static lines...  not very visible but still annoying
[00:59] <dr_willis> smo_PenguinStyle,  i dont see that happening any time soon
[00:59] <John`Anderzon> im not exactly sure... it came with the machien
[00:59] <vigo> sysadmin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 <<there is the wikipedia
[00:59] <sysadmin> thank you Vigo
[00:59] <ardchoille> owh: suppose you install a package and it installs 4 deps. using "aptitude purge" may not uninstall all deps but "--purge-unused" will uninstall the package and all "unused" deps
[00:59] <sysadmin> ill have a look now
[01:00] <sysadmin> but is it possible to retrieve data from that disk though using Ubuntu
[01:00] <sysadmin> ?
[01:00] <vigo> My pleasure
[01:00] <Flannel> sysadmin: Assuming there's no damage, yes, of course.
[01:00] <yow|laptop> John`Anderzon - look up your vert and horizontal rates for that monitor and the refresh rate and then compare that to what is in your xorg.conf. you may need to try out some different settings and manually edit the file.
[01:00] <sysadmin> thank you Flannel
[01:01] <sysadmin> the disks are abs fine . . no problem
[01:01] <earthmeLon> Hey guys!  I am trying to add a user to my laptop so that I can use it whenever I connect to an untrusted/insecure hotspot.  I want to do a number of things, like create startup scripts like /etc/init.d/XXX specifically for that user.  Any help would be greatly appreciated :D
[01:01] <yow|laptop> and thats assuming that the hw is working correctly
[01:01] <sysadmin> its just that i have to get the data out from the servers hard disks
[01:01] <gerber> Do you know any Free Point Of Sales ?
[01:01] <owh> ardchoille: The rdepends for netcat-openbsd and dnsmasq-base are almost identical - the difference is that dnsmasq-base rdepends on dnsmasq. As far as I can see they're the same.
[01:01] <Flannel> gerber: What?
[01:01] <John`Anderzon> ok ty so much
[01:01] <gerber> pos
[01:01] <yow|laptop> earthmeLon - create the account and then you can use the sessions option to run custom scripts if you want
[01:02] <Flannel> gerber: For Ubuntu?
[01:02] <yow|laptop> np John`Anderzon
[01:02] <gerber> For restaurant
[01:02] <gerber> YEs
[01:02] <earthmeLon> Thanks yow, i'd rather set it up from this account.  Trying to learn as much about the OS as possible without cheating with GUI's :P
[01:02] <earthmeLon> yow|laptop  ^
[01:03] <hmuller> ardchoille: Thanks for that tip
[01:03] <John`Anderzon> i checked out my xorg file the only lines that mention 'video' say "configured video device"
[01:03] <gerber> I download one But i Dont know how to load it pls help
[01:03] <ardchoille> hmuller: yw :)
[01:04] <jrib> owh: I don't feel like reading aptitude source and can't find documentation on the meaning of the numbers in /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates, but I would look for differences there next
[01:04] <yow|laptop> earthmeLon - in that case, if you are going to use init.d then you will need to create scripts and then link each of them to the corresponding runlevels in which you want them to start and then restrict them to only that user. just my 2 cents, someone else may have a better idea
[01:04] <hmuller> Any trac users in the room tonight?
[01:04] <vigo> gerber: what did you download?
[01:04] <orflon> a program asks me for openssl >= 0.9.7 , but I have already 0.9.8, what could I do?
[01:04] <earthmeLon> yow|laptop  So, if I create a script in init.d, how do I restrict it to only run when that user logs in?
[01:04] <yow|laptop> John`Anderzon - is this a single boot machine? have you tried a different live cd? a different driver perhaps? just trying to rule out a hw issue or a driver issue.
[01:05] <jrib> orflon: provide more details
[01:05] <John`Anderzon> it had the same problem when i booted from the live CD
[01:05] <jamnz> I need to manage available log on times for two user ID's. They are to log on during hours of 3pm to 4pm each day. how do I apply this log on time in Ubuntu 8.10?? Thanks!
[01:05] <John`Anderzon> i didnt have this prob when i had damn small linux installed././.
[01:05] <gerber> openbravo pos
[01:06] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[01:06] <vigo> gerber: I have no idea what that is, but maybe someone that saw it can assist.
[01:06] <orflon> jrib, I'm on a live cd 8.10, and I'm trying to install wvstreams. It says in the end missing depedency openssl, >=0.9.7 needed, but I do have 0.9.8 already. Ask me anything else you need, thanks mate.
[01:06] <owh> jrib: That's an excellent suggestion.
[01:06] <VideoSmith> What's with all the floodbots?
[01:06] <yow|laptop> earthmeLon - well thats why i suggested using sessions cause its easier that way, tbh, im not sure how to restrict it to one user. you can login still within your current account by using an xsession window and logging in as your proposed user there
[01:06] <jrib> orflon: what is the name of the package you are installing?
[01:07] <John`Anderzon> it's dual boot but with the other OS is installed on another HD
[01:07] <orflon> jrib, I install it from source, it's wvstreams version 4.4.1
[01:07] <eseven73> VideoSmith: they're here to protect us against Microsoft! You didnt know that already? :P
[01:07] <jrib> orflon: why?  wvstreams seems to be in the repositories (not that version in particular)
[01:08] <yow|laptop> John`Anderzon - does it have the same monitor problem on the other OS? what is the other OS?
[01:08] <John`Anderzon> nope
[01:08] <John`Anderzon> i only have this problem with ubuntu
[01:08] <earthmeLon> yow|laptop  I am doing some research and maybe .bash_login or .bash_profile might be a better option.
[01:08] <yow|laptop> ok so it could be a driver issue then
[01:08] <gerber> /home/gerber/ntpv_bundle-1.2rc1
[01:08] <yow|laptop> ok cool earthmeLon
[01:08] <orflon> jrib: hm well I can't find it in my repos
[01:09] <John`Anderzon> i see
[01:09] <jrib> orflon: apt-cache search wvstreams  doesn't return any results?
[01:09] <gerber> can you help
[01:09] <yow|laptop> John`Anderzon - are using the ubuntu drivers for the card? if so, which one? 177? 180?
[01:09] <vigo> gerber: Did you apt-get that?
[01:09] <BellinXFelon> can anyone help me configure my seagate free agent pro drive for xubuntu
[01:09] <John`Anderzon> honestly i dont know.. i just installed ubuntu, i'm guessing it installed drivers for it.. but i could be wrong
[01:09] <John`Anderzon> how would i check?
[01:09] <gerber> yes
[01:10] <orflon> jrib: yes it did return, but apt-get install wvstreams doesn't work :/
[01:10] <jrib> BellinXFelon: what filesystem?
[01:10] <jrib> orflon: what did it return?
[01:10] <Barridus> is there a terminal command to bring up the add/remove function that's in the applications menu dropdown?  (not the full synaptec)
[01:10] <vigo> gerber: Did it install?
[01:10] <gerber> nnno
[01:10] <gerber> no
[01:10] <jrib> Barridus: gnome-app-install
[01:10] <orflon> jrib: libs of this kind-> libwvstreams*
[01:11] <orflon> jrib: apt-get install libwvstreams*?
[01:11] <linxeh> is there a good dyndns client for ubuntu ?
[01:11] <jrib> orflon: is what you want something different?
[01:11] <yow|laptop> John`Anderzon - look under system > admin > hw drivers
[01:11] <jrib> linxeh: I use ddclient, there are others
[01:11] <vigo> gerber: maybe sudo apt-get or use the Synaptic Package manager....
[01:11] <yow|laptop> see if it lists any in use for your video card
[01:11] <hmuller> BellinXFelon: let me guess, you plug it in, and it is not recognized as mass storage in Ubuntu?
[01:11] <linxeh> jrib: ok thanks
[01:11] <John`Anderzon> okay
[01:11] <Jams44> I'm currently running 7.04 and want to upgrade to the latest stable version (8.04?) Anywho, the Update Manager can
[01:12] <orflon> jrib: well, another program says that I must have wvstreams installed, I'm not sure what exactly I want
[01:12] <vigo> gerber: It may already be installed
[01:12] <devdavad> does anyone here know how to enable SHMConfig in xorg.conf?
[01:12] <John`Anderzon> theres ONE driver there but its not enabled.... it's called "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver..."
[01:12] <jrib> orflon: ok... what other program?
[01:12] <gerber> how can i find out ?
[01:12] <Jams44> t locate updates so I can't go step by step. Is there anyway I can download an alternate upgrade version so i can mount it?
[01:12] <mFacenet> ATT = Fail, I just called them with a question about a static ip address order the service tech asked me what os I responded Ubuntu, a distribution of Linux and she argued with me to make sure that it wasn't a version of windows xp
[01:12] <Ryan_Delaney> hahaha
[01:12] <John`Anderzon> when reading what its about it suposedly  is used with some 3-D effects
[01:12] <Eliteslave> Hello
[01:12] <linxeh> jrib: out of interest which dns service do you use ?
[01:12] <hmuller> devdavad: You trying to turn the touchpad off?
[01:12] <orflon> jrib: wdial
[01:12] <Barridus> jrib, thanks!!!!
[01:12] <vigo> gerber: look in your home folder
[01:12] <jrib> linxeh: dyndns
[01:12] <yow|laptop> John`Anderzon - its up to you, but i would try enabling that. that should give you 3d acceleration and a better resolution
[01:12] <linxeh> jrib: ok cool, thanks
[01:12] <devdavad> hmuller, yes it's starting to bother me a bit on my laptop
[01:13] <John`Anderzon> okay if it doesnt work and im left with a blank screen.. ?
[01:13] <jrib> linxeh: afraid dns  is nicer
[01:13] <John`Anderzon> Which i doubt but theres always that possibility, no?
[01:13] <hmuller> devdavad:  I used to use that solution but found one better, give me a minute and I'll send you a link
[01:13] <Eliteslave> I need some help setting up Ubuntu, <--- Complete Ubuntu / Linux nublet
[01:13] <ryanakca> When setting a Disc # for a track, what id3v2 tag does it represent?
[01:13] <jrib> orflon: wvdial is also in the repositories
[01:13] <Ryan_Delaney> Eliteslave: Go ahead and and your question
[01:14] <orflon> jrib: maybe I should add a repository?
[01:14] <hmuller> devdavad: http://theworldofapenguin.blogspot.com/2007/09/keyboard-shortcut-to-disable-touchpad.html
[01:14] <meanburrito920> does anyone know of a way to play music bought on iTunes on ubuntu?
[01:14] <devdavad> hmuller, thank you
[01:14] <jrib> orflon: the repositories should be the first place you look for software.  What does « apt-cache search wvdial »return?
[01:14] <hmuller> devdavad: I prefer this now, it works like a champ, and seems to reduce the keyrepeats also
[01:14] <vigo> gerber: I am returning to Ubuntu from a lond sailing trip absence, so this is all forgotten and has to be relearned for me also, all I know is simple stuff, and not much of that.
[01:14] <Eliteslave> where can I get drivers for my video card so i can enable 3d
[01:14] <Eliteslave> ?
[01:14] <orflon> jrib: the initial programs that I want to install are: gppp and an installer for vmc 3g
[01:14] <John`Anderzon> okay i need to restart
[01:14] <Jams44> I'm currently running 7.04 and want to upgrade to the latest stable version (8.04?) Anywho, the Update Manager
[01:14] <linxeh> jrib: I just need something simple so I can keep track of a machine thats going to be on an ADSL link (used for offsite rsync backups)
[01:14] <Jams44> cant locate updates so I can't go step by step. Is there anyway I can download an alternate upgrade version so i can mount it?
[01:15] <Ryan_Delaney> Eliteslave: Go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and enable them
[01:15] <gerber> this is what i Want to install.../home/gerber/ntpv_bundle-1.2rc1
[01:15] <hmuller> Any trac users/administrators in the room watching?
[01:15] <jrib> linxeh: dyndns will work fine then
[01:15] <earthmeLon> Okay, I give up yow|laptop.  how do I keep this session running and start another xsession or whatever with the other user?
[01:15] <jrib> !ask | hmuller
[01:15] <meanburrito920> I've used trac
[01:15] <Eliteslave> Ryan_Delaney:  I have done that, but when i click on lets say Chess and turn 3d mode on it says It doesnt work
[01:16] <vigo> gerber: uhm,,ok,,let me look for that on the forums.......
[01:16] <hmuller> jrib: thanks for the tip :P
[01:16] <gerber> i went to systematic and is not there
[01:16] <RobertLaptop> Can anyone help with lircd[5211]: segfault at 0 ip b7f47773 sp bfb3b280 error 4 in libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4[b7f43000+6000]
[01:16] <jrib> orflon: gpppon is in the repositories, if that's what you want.  I don't know about vmc 3g
[01:16] <Ryan_Delaney> Eliteslave: Please be more specific with error messages
[01:16] <RobertLaptop> Noting shows up on google
[01:17] <meanburrito920> how to play protected AAC on Ubuntu
[01:17] <Eliteslave> Ryan_Delaney: " You are unable to play in 3d mode due to the following Problems : No Python Open GL Support"
[01:17] <devdavad> hmuller, I'm setting it up now, thank you for the link
[01:17] <dr_willis> Eliteslave,  that 3d chess stuff has never worked well.. in every reelase ive ever tried...    Im not sure it has ever worked
[01:17] <hmuller> devdavad: enjoy, It is much preferable to the SHMconfig trick
[01:17] <Jams44> What are the "alternate" downloads that Ubuntu refers to in the upgrade FAQ?
[01:18] <jrib> !alternate | Jams44
[01:18] <vigo> gerber: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=54351221 <<<<that covers it
[01:18] <orflon> jrib: it returned wvdial, but when I apt-get install wvdial, it doesn't find it.
[01:18] <Eliteslave> dr_willis: well i was using that as an example
[01:18] <darkdelusions> !restrictedformats | meanburrito920
[01:18] <jrib> orflon: pastebin
[01:18] <Eliteslave> I am particulary trying to get Eve-Online to work
[01:18] <Eliteslave> but it is suffering the same error
[01:18] <orflon> oh jrib it's ok wvdial is in.
[01:19] <Ryan_Delaney> Eliteslave: I'm not sure if that's a driver issue
[01:19] <Jams44> jrib: can i mount the alternate disk and upgrade from it?
[01:19] <meanburrito920> darkdelusions: so i'm stuck with a bunch of dead files i paid for?
[01:19] <orflon> jrib: though gppp is not in.
[01:19] <hmuller> I've installed trac (working), the masterticket plugin (working), and the ticketdep plugin but cannot get it to work, is there a trick?
[01:20] <jrib> orflon: pastebin
[01:20] <Eliteslave> Ryan - Im using a 9800GTX so do you think that might be a problem?
[01:20] <Flannel> meanburrito920: You just have use one of the various methods for stripping off the encryption
[01:20] <dr_willis> meanburrito920,  now ya know why a lot of people HATE itunes.
[01:20] <John`Anderson> yow|laptop, thank you so much
[01:20] <Ryan_Delaney> Eliteslave: Not that I know of
[01:20] <John`Anderson> enabling the driver stopped the flickering
[01:20] <John`Anderson> ty you again so much
[01:20] <jrib> Jams44: well, if you have packages that are not in the repositories on the cd, you'll need web access anyway
[01:20] <yow|laptop> John`Anderson - i take it that resolved the issue ?
[01:20] <jrib> for them to upgrade
[01:20] <yow|laptop> good good
[01:21] <RonPaul> I can't seem to extract img files.   they are being used in a torrent client while i try to extract them is that what is causing the problem?
[01:21] <John`Anderson> yes it did
[01:21] <yow|laptop> cool
[01:21] <yow|laptop> figured it would
[01:21] <Eliteslave> also is it possible to get Itunes to work on Ubuntu?
[01:21] <meanburrito920> Flannel: I've googled for methods and havent found anything that hasnt been  forced to cease and desist
[01:21] <hmuller> Eliteslave: You can get it to work, but no syncing
[01:21] <RonPaul> elite: no
[01:21] <RonPaul> i dual booted for my iphone only
[01:21] <John`Anderson> the screen looks ALOT better now
[01:21] <darkdelusions> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/AAC might help... I dont but stuff from itunes so I dunno :)
[01:21] <hmuller> Eliteslave: All that's working now is the app itself, and the iTunes store
[01:22] <John`Anderson> more clearer than my win98 one lol
[01:22] <darkdelusions> but = buy
[01:22] <Eliteslave> I dont care bout the syncing really, I just want it to play the music lol
[01:22] <yow|laptop> or a lot even? John`Anderson  ;)
[01:22] <John`Anderson> ooops i forgot the space
[01:22] <yow|laptop> yes, most people feel that way about Linux displays
[01:22] <orflon> well jrib my initial goal is to get this: http://huaweie220.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-vodafone-mobile-connect-card-vmc.html, to work.
[01:22] <gerber>     * sudo
[01:22] <gerber>     * nmap
[01:22] <gerber>     * libqt3c102-mt
[01:22] <gerber>     * libqt3c102-mt-psql
[01:22] <gerber>     * kdelibs4
[01:22] <FloodBot1> gerber: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <gerber>     * libgdchart
[01:22]  * RonPaul wish someone would help him
[01:23] <John`Anderson> :)
[01:23] <RonPaul> I can't seem to extract img files.   they are being used in a torrent client while i try to extract them is that what is causing the problem?
[01:23] <gerber> I just want to know if this pks are in ubunutu
[01:23] <yow|laptop> well good, you're all set to become an expert and help others now John`Anderson :)
[01:24] <Jams44> jrib: I'm new to this. Respositories refer to... If ive already had a successful install of an old version of ubuntu can iassume that it would upgrade correctly?
[01:24] <Jams44> i have web access, the updates just dont work
[01:24] <Jams44> it says something about a fetch error.
[01:24] <John`Anderson> hope so, im still a newbie at linux but im learning... and ive said it and i'll say again, its A LOT better than Windows.. the only prob is getting software developers to start developing for it instead of windows..
[01:24] <hyperair> on a NEC Versa E6500,  the notebook's mouse and touchpad don't work. however usb keyboards and mice work. does anybody know what could cause this issue?
[01:24] <Sorcererbob> !reops
[01:24] <nickrud> Jams44, if the release is old enough, the repos don't exist anymore. what version?
[01:24] <Sorcererbob> !repos
[01:25] <eseven73> Jams44: read those ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[01:25] <jrib> Jams44: repositories is the online location of the packages you install.  The alternate cd only has the main repository on it.  So if packages you have installed are not on the cd, they won't get updated unless you let it grab packages from the internet
[01:25] <hyperair> i tried booting into single user mode, but the keyboard doesn't work either.
[01:25] <vigo> !ndis |gerber
[01:25] <yow|laptop> John`Anderson - you will find that in a lot of cases, the software that Linux has available is equal or superior anyway
[01:25] <Eliteslave> If i were to d/l a driver at www.nvidia.com and its for "linux 64bit" would that work for Ubuntu? or no?
[01:25] <aheckler> Eliteslave: it should
[01:25] <RonPaul> yeah
[01:25] <jrib> Eliteslave: just use System -> Administration -> Hardware Driver
[01:26] <aheckler> or that
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> Eliteslave: it should, but why not just use the restricted driver ..
[01:26] <John`Anderson> thats true, and it's free
[01:26] <Eliteslave> its old?
[01:26] <hyperair> on a NEC Versa E6500,  the notebook's mouse and touchpad don't work. however usb keyboards and mice work. does anybody know what could cause this issue? it doesn't work in single user mode either, leading me to believe that there are issues between linux and the PS/2 controller. it seems to work on solaris, and windows, but not on anything that uses a linux kernel.
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> Eliteslave: is it not working or something?
[01:26] <yow|laptop> yes John`Anderson free in every sense
[01:26] <hmuller> Eliteslave: Follow jrib's advice, if you have the amd64 ubuntu version installed, then  you'll get the 64bit nvidia driver
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> !latest | Eliteslave
[01:27] <eseven73> hyperair: touchpads are so annoying are you really sure you want that enabled?
[01:27] <eseven73> i disabled mine :)
[01:27] <AlfredHitchcock> xdfgsdfg
[01:27] <dy_> Hi, do you guys know how to  filter messages in pidgin? I'm getting a lot of spam from my live.com account and I want to allow messages only from my contacts.
[01:28] <John`Anderson> i was talking to a friend on another network, and we got into the subject of windows security issues.. and i told him, i think pretty honestly that its a marketing tactic
[01:28] <hmuller> eseven73: that's not the point, hyperair WANTS them working
[01:28] <earthmeLon> Hello!! I need to figure out a way to run SAMBA on user logon instead of at startup.. I only want samba to run if a specific user logs in.
[01:28] <John`Anderson> with windows you're FORCED to buy and upgrade
[01:28] <hyperair> eseven73, hmuller: the pressing issue is that the onboard keyboard does not work!
[01:28] <yow|laptop> John`Anderson - i make a fair bit of money on the side cleaning and reinstalling windows boxes. i dont mind ;)
[01:28] <hyperair> eseven73, hmuller: not even in a tty!
[01:28] <dr_willis> earthmeLon,  samba is a service.. that makes little sence
[01:29] <hmuller> earthmelon: Session settings?
[01:29] <hyperair> eseven73, hmuller: but it does work in GRUB
[01:29] <John`Anderson> up until a week ago i was using Win98, and microsoft no longer offers support or patches for it. Why? because they cant make money off it no more :P
[01:29] <dr_willis> earthmeLon,  the samba-doc pakcage has all the info you would ever want on samba - if its doable - it may be mentioned in there.
[01:29] <linxeh> John`Anderson: also because it is crap
[01:29] <linxeh> :p
[01:29] <John`Anderson> windows is good, dont get me wrong. i think its excellent as a entertainment system
[01:29] <hmuller> hyperair: Does dmesg reveal anything?
[01:29] <John`Anderson> but it lacks security and stability..
[01:29] <yow|laptop> if you find virii and spyware entertaining John`Anderson lol
[01:30] <earthmeLon> dr_willis  It makes perfect sense to me.  I only want to run the service if my main user logs in.  Not if a guest user logs in.  It has nothing to do with samba, it has to do with Linux/Ubuntu.  The samba docs will provide little/no help in what I'm trying to do
[01:30] <John`Anderson> my old tandy computer was more stable than my win98 machine lmao
[01:30] <tj83> anyone know a chan related to the Kino video editor?
[01:30] <hyperair> hmuller: i didn't try checking. i should have eh.
[01:30] <hmuller> run it in a terminal:  dmesg | less
[01:30] <John`Anderson> atleast i can browse the net on here and not keep checking file directories for new entries
[01:31] <hyperair> hmuller: wait wait, it's not my notebook. i'll have to get my friend to switch back to linux
[01:31] <John`Anderson> i have XP on the other HD... and after i rebooted today, i logged in and found that firefox had been invaded by a Yahoo toolbar which i did not install
[01:31] <John`Anderson> and amazingly AVG didnt even pick anything up as installing without my permission
[01:31] <John`Anderson> nor did windows
[01:31] <unop> !windows
[01:31] <earthmeLon> !ubuntu-chat
[01:32] <unop> John`Anderson, please stay on topic
[01:32] <yow|laptop> lol
[01:32] <Flannel> earthmeLon: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to go for chatting
[01:32] <earthmeLon> John`Anderson  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:32] <John`Anderson> soory unop my bad
[01:32] <earthmeLon> Thanks Flannel
[01:32] <Matillo> Can anyone explain to me why I can't use two sources of sound at once?
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> Matillo: i told you earlier
[01:33] <Matillo> well, I need further explanation, and just switching to alsa didn't fix the problem.
[01:33] <earthmeLon> Matillo  you need to install ALSA and/or PulseAudio.  Check the ubuntu docs page
[01:33] <yow|laptop> cant pulseaudio do that?
[01:33] <justin__> hello
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> yow|laptop: it never has for me... it always kills 1 sound,
[01:33] <Eliteslave> well I feel really dumb guys
[01:33] <hmuller> Is there a trick to getting the trac plugin ticketdep working?  I have masterticket installed working correctly, just can't get ticketdep going.
[01:33] <earthmeLon> IndyGunFreak  yow|laptop I had to install ALSA and use PulseAudio to get my audio working perfectly
[01:33] <yow|laptop> hmmm, dont think ive ever tried it. ive used sound within a browser and also a music player at the same time though
[01:33] <Eliteslave> I didnt look at the second window, and guess what was running in the background? my game lol
[01:34] <docbob> @bookaloo
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> earthmeLon: i just went to Alsa, and it works fine.. ddn't need to install anything
[01:34] <justin__> does anyone here feeling like helping a newb with some dve problems
[01:34] <Matillo> yow|laptop: well that's exactly what isn't working for me.
[01:34] <aheckler> justin__: just ask your question :)
[01:34] <earthmeLon> I do not want samba running when a specific user logs in.  To do this, I need to remove it from init.d list and have it run when the user(s) i do want it running with logon.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
[01:35] <yow|laptop> Matillo - which flash plugin is selected for your browser?
[01:35] <Matillo> yow|laptop: adobe flash.
[01:35] <yow|laptop> thats what i have. i remember turning the volume down (but not off) for my music player (sonata) and being able to watch a flash video through firefox
[01:35] <justin__> i install ubuntu for the first time about a week ago and was trying to get my dvd  drive to work in virtual box and i guess i changed something i wasnt suppose to now i cant read cd  or dvds
[01:36] <Rad> I'm running Ubuntu server with Apache2 and I can't get my GoDaddy SSL to work properly. Mod SSL is installed and working, and I'm specifically working with a virtual host. I get (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[01:36] <owh> jrib: FYI the bug with aptitude has already been reported: Bug #305504
[01:36] <Matillo> yow|laptop: My music player hangs up until the sound resource is freed.
[01:36] <owh> Matillo, jrib ardchoille, thanks all for your help.
[01:36] <yow|laptop> justin__ - try unchecking passthrough on the dvd settings?
[01:36] <justin__> how do  i do that
[01:36] <jrib> owh: I see, cool.  Thanks for reporting!
[01:37] <earthmeLon> Matillo  if you have problems after following these instructions come ask questions:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[01:37] <Eliteslave> are there drivers to make blueray work on ubuntu?
[01:37] <yow|laptop> Matillo - is pulseaudio or alsa selected in your sound settings? what does alsamixer show?
[01:37] <hmuller> earthmelon: Add the startup commands to .xinitrc in each users home directory, and if necessary adding their names to /etc/sudoers for the startup?
[01:37] <yow|laptop> justin__ - look under settings for the vm you created
[01:37] <justin__> im running duel boot with vista now vista shows everything correct
[01:37] <Jaffarkelshac> i am trying to use a website, bomomo.com its a flash based website but when i try it in ubuntu, my cpu usage goes 100% . is it a problem with my flash?
[01:37] <Matillo> yow|laptop: I've tried both and autodetect, and alsamixer showed the levels? Not off.
[01:38] <justin__> it's gone now i had formatted and redone everything after a bad mbr
[01:38] <Sylphid> Im trying to convert my single disk install to a 2disk raid 1 setup folloing instructions here http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch however when i try to reboot into the raid volume it fails to an initramfs prompt and also fails when trying to boot to the original volume... i believe that the  update-initramfs -u command screwed it up but im not sure how to repair this
[01:38] <bthornton> Does anyone else who uses Ubuntu/Gnome go through periods where your 10-key keys don't work, regardless of if Num Lock is on/off?
[01:38] <earthmeLon> Thank you hmuller I think you understand what I'm asking.  In order to run stuff from .xinitrc as root, I need to add my user to sudoers file, eh?  I will look up how to do that
[01:38] <Rad> jaffarkelshac: That's a pretty cpu intensive flash application in general.
[01:38] <yow|laptop> Matillo, hmmm. its possible that it could be a restriction on your sound card. did it ever work for two inputs?
[01:38] <xinel> bthornton: nope
[01:39] <justin__> vista just ejects every disk as if it were no good
[01:39] <hmuller> earthmelon: I do something similar to what you are trying to do, and that's how I did it
[01:39] <Matillo> yow|laptop: In windows it did, yeah.
[01:39] <macman> guys .. im hooking up a palm centro to my ubuntu 8.10 .. there any software i should use ? .. i just want to get the pictures
[01:39] <Jaffarkelshac> Rad: it runs fine on my laptop and compared to my pc its very low spec
[01:39] <hmuller> earthmelon: remember the /etc/sudoers file is modified using visudo
[01:39] <bthornton> jaffarkelshac: Which version of Ubuntu and what arch?
[01:39] <earthmeLon> hmuller  after I add my user to this list, I will be able to sudo foo without request for password?
[01:39] <yow|laptop> well, that uses different drivers. pulse is a fairly new thing in linux and my understanding is that using two simultaneous audio devices is relatively new territory
[01:40] <Rad> jaffarkelshac: Any other flash sites do it or just this one?
[01:40] <Jaffarkelshac> Intrepid 32 bit
[01:40] <Jaffarkelshac> just this one Rad
[01:40] <hmuller> earthmelon: I'll pm with you an example from my /etc/sudoers file
[01:40] <Matillo> yow|laptop: Well, I played a flash video, without audio, then paused and unpaused my music player, and now the music player's not playing again.
[01:40] <Rad> I bet it's the calculations in the actionscript
[01:40] <earthmeLon> hmuller  thanks, but it seems all I have to do is add my main user to admin users
[01:40] <bthornton> jaffarkelshac: I've noticed in Intrepid that flash tends to slow Firefox down completely (i.e. scrolling and even clicking menus). The slowdown seems to be porportional to the number of Flash elements on a page.
[01:41] <maxbaldwin> what exactly happens when you run "  :!:
[01:41] <maxbaldwin> it just returns "bash:"
[01:41] <adm9393> Hello, I am having serious trouble after upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04LTS and my graphics card: Nvidia Geforce 460go. After I used envyNG, I reboot to come to find that my screen/graphics card cannot be detected. I understand that many people have had this problem but I've been searching and searching for a very long time only to just give up each day and boot into windows... I've tried all I can. from the hex editing to adding to the xorg...
[01:41] <yow|laptop> justin__ - if its doing it in two different OS's then it could be a hardware issue. maybe try disconnecting it and reconnecting it?
[01:41] <Rad> Anybody here have any ideas on my ssl issue?
[01:41] <xelapond> what version of python comes with ubuntu 8.10?
[01:42] <aheckler> xelapong: 2.5.2 IIRC
[01:42] <xelapond> aheckler: thanks
[01:42] <yow|laptop> Matillo - it sounds like its grabbing the audio and not letting go then
[01:42] <aheckler> xelapong: enter "python -V" in a terminal to see which version you have
[01:42] <aheckler> xelapond ^^^
[01:42] <Sorcererbob> adm9393: can you get to a command prompt?
[01:42] <Matillo> yow|laptop: Well it's happening with any sources, not just flash or music.
[01:42] <unop> !info python | aheckler
[01:42] <crashsystems> Does anyone know how to get rid of the bootloader on a pen drive?
[01:43] <yow|laptop> Matillo - are system sounds enabled and esd as well?
[01:43] <Matillo> yow|laptop: system sounds yeah, ESD?
[01:43] <aheckler> ooooo thanks unop, i didnt know about that handy bot thing
[01:43] <unop> crashsystems, do you want to destroy the partition table in the process?
[01:43] <crashsystems> that would be fine
[01:43] <yow|laptop> Matillo - system > prefs > sound
[01:44] <Matillo> yow|laptop: ok, i sees it. Yes it's on.
[01:44] <Eliteslave> ok guys, heres my last question If I can get this to work I think I will never ever use Windows again, How do i setup Evolution to connect to my Exchange server?
[01:44] <yow|laptop> i always disable system sounds but enable esd
[01:44] <crashsystems> @unop I created a new partition table in gparted, but that did not remove grub
[01:44] <NET||abuse> Hi everybody, i need a pointer in the right direction,, I did a bunch of work setting up and the guys have been adding content to a trac setup on the old LTS, dapper drake, it's running 0.9.3, i need to get it up to a more recent version, in the 0.11 range, so is anyone familliar with it, and help me upgrade here?
[01:44] <unop> crashsystems,  use this command.  dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/sdX  # be very careful that you have the right device here.
[01:44] <justin__> when it first happened i got it to read an old win 98 cd the only cd that would run then i flashed a differnt firmware and it would only read reg dvds flashed back and now nothing
[01:45] <adm9393> Sorcererbob: yes I can
[01:45] <yow|laptop> justin__ - do you have another drive to try? it sounds like it could be a hw issue. drives do die sometimes
[01:45] <crashsystems> @unop does that just rewrite everything with zeros?
[01:45] <Saida> Hey
[01:45] <aheckler> Eliteslave: try this -> http://tinyurl.com/a2fd5r
[01:46] <justin__> no i dont ill probably just buy another when i get some money do you think possibly my etc/fstab is corrupt
[01:46] <unop> Eliteslave, the evolution connection wizard has an option for MS exchange  http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/trench/16234.html
[01:46] <unop> crashsystems, it does indeed
[01:46] <blouf> does someone use banshee with the nowplaying screenlet here ?
[01:46] <RonPaul> I can't seem to extract img files.   they are being used in a torrent client while i try to extract them is that what is causing the problem?
[01:46] <crashsystems> @unop um, I hope it does not matter that the thing is mounted...
[01:46]  * RonPaul is wondering if anyone can help him
[01:46] <RonPaul> I can't seem to extract img files.   they are being used in a torrent client while i try to extract them is that what is causing the problem?
[01:46] <yow|laptop> justin__ - i doubt thats the issue if it happens in multiple OS's
[01:47] <Eliteslave> ty unop
[01:47] <unop> crashsystems, best to unmount it first
[01:47] <eseven73> !repeat | RonPaul
[01:47] <justin__> cool thanks
[01:47] <crashsystems> too late
[01:47] <yow|laptop> np
[01:47] <RonPaul> oh snap
[01:47] <yow|laptop> RonPaul - an img would be mounted, wouldnt it? not extracted
[01:47] <justin__> i love ubuntu vista is going buy buy soon lol
[01:47] <jgarbers> is it possible to use compiz (which, i assume, is the "enhanced desktop effects") with the non-proprietary (built-in) ATI RADEON drivers?
[01:47] <tonsofpcs> jgarbers: pretty sure, will probably suck, but i think you can
[01:48] <kr00l> can someone help me install pdfsam?
[01:48] <jgarbers> have proprietary drivers working but they don't seem to be allowing me to set up my dual monitors properly
[01:48] <jgarbers> tonsofpcs, any insight into dealing with dual monitors?
[01:48] <jgarbers> i get really weird effects when i try to set the resolutions with the ATI Catalyst control center thing
[01:48]  * crashsystems crosses fingers, hopes he did not destroy $5 pen drive.
[01:48] <tonsofpcs> jgarbers: sure, after 24 and the Unit
[01:48] <tonsofpcs> [or during commercials]
[01:48] <Vixy> Hello everyone. I'm wondering with a system that has a 64 bit processor and 6gigs of memory should run the 64 bit version of Ubuntu or if everyone would suggest sticking to the 32bit version for better support?
[01:48] <nickrud> jgarbers, 9500 and before have decent 3d accel with ati driver; later no
[01:48] <yow|laptop> haha, im watching 24 too
[01:49] <crashsystems> @vixy I have ubuntu 64bit and love it
[01:49] <aheckler> Vixy: go for 64-bit, it's not nearly as bad as it's reputation is
[01:49] <jgarbers> this is a 9800, so i guess i need the proprietary drivers
[01:49] <aheckler> plus it will use *all* your RAM
[01:49] <crashsystems> 64bit has improved a lot in recent years
[01:49] <wolter> my webcam works in xawtv on the first run of the boot, but not in cheese, help!
[01:49] <RonPaul> I can't seem to extract img files.   they are being used in a torrent client while i try to extract them is that what is causing the problem?
[01:49] <nickrud> jgarbers, try system->admin->hardware drivers
[01:49] <Vixy> For someone like myself who is new to Linux and Ubuntu I was told that wouldn't be the best choice. Was I told wrong?
[01:49] <yow|laptop> RonPaul - i already addressed your question
[01:50] <jos_> I am trying to install a program and I when I do "./configure" I get this error: "C compiler cannot create executables"
[01:50] <jgarbers> nickrud: yes, i have done that - have the ATI proprietary drivers installed and am seeing compiz effects
[01:50] <justin__> ohh yeh when i try my drfive it says unable to mount location no media in drive
[01:50] <nickrud> jgarbers, in software probaby
[01:50] <nickrud> jgarbers, sorry, misread
[01:50] <aheckler> Vixy: why did the person you asked say that? did they give a reason?
[01:50] <unop> jos_,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:51] <Vixy> This was some time ago, but they had mentioned compatibility issues with some of my hardware components and the 64 bit version having quite a few "bugs" as they said.
[01:51] <BellinXFelon> im sorry, i didnt get the message about configuring my seagate freeagent pro
[01:51] <nickrud> jgarbers, that's the 8.543 driver, according to apt
[01:51] <jos_> thanks, I just installed and upgraded 8.04, why it did not come pre-installed?
[01:51] <aheckler> Vixy: 64-bit has come a long way in the past year or so, you should be perfectly fine
[01:52] <sfuentes> anyone know how to enable wireless without having to log into X first?
[01:52] <Arethius> is there anywhere where I can test to see if my mic is set up properly? I can't get anything to record in Audacity
[01:52] <Vixy> The only thing I'm concerned about is my graphics card. I have a GeForce 9600 GT.
[01:52] <joejc> why isnt ubuntu colorful ?
[01:52] <wolter> my webcam doesn't work in cheese, just in xawtv, please help me!
[01:52] <Flannel> joejc: That question may be best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <justin__> does anyone no of a way to get magicjack to work on linux
[01:52] <LinuxLover4> I am running ubuntu server 8.10. On startup my raid0 array doesnt load. Madadm says that the array is degraded, and it cant load (or somethign), i know that none of the drives have failed however. Any help???
[01:53] <eseven73> justin__: do those actually work?
[01:53] <justin__> i have three of them and for the price its worth it
[01:53] <crashsystems> mmm, I'd love to raid0 4 intel ssd drives...
[01:54] <eseven73> justin__: ah, ive heard they dont, good to know that they do :)
[01:54] <jdevel> is iptables off topic from ubuntu?
[01:54] <LinuxLover4> i have 3 36gb scsi and 1 40gb sata hd in the raid0 array
[01:54] <justin__> great for a fax or if you make alot of long distanc phone calls
[01:54] <jos_> thanks, I just installed and upgraded 8.04, why i"./CONFIGURE" is not pre-installed?
[01:54] <wolter> where can i get the gspca driver?
[01:54] <arimakun> alguien tiene experiencia en xubuntu???
[01:54] <aheckler> Vixy: just google for "ubuntu geforce 9600" and you can see how others' experiences have gone
[01:54] <aheckler> from a quick check, it looks ok
[01:54] <wolter> !es > arimakun
[01:54] <Bax_> what's the HDD footprint of 8.04?
[01:55] <justin__> if you have low bandwidth then i wouldnt suggest causes choppyness
[01:55] <wolter> where can i download the offcial gspca driver for ubuntu intrepid?
[01:55] <eseven73> Vixy: you might also want to append [SOLVED] to the end of that google search
[01:55] <Vixy> So type in something like "ubuntu geforce 9600 [solved]"?
[01:55] <eseven73> yeppers
[01:55] <Rad> Anybody able to help me with the SSL certificates?
[01:56] <justin__> i run three computers xbox 3 majicjacks of an unsecured connection aint had no problems
[01:56] <Tyrath> could anyone help me getting qtstalker working on ubuntu?
[01:56] <Rad> I'm running Ubuntu server with Apache2 and I can't get my GoDaddy SSL to work properly. Mod SSL is installed and working, and I'm specifically working with a virtual host. I get (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[01:56] <ghostcube> hi iam missing the libGl.so in /usr/lib i have the libgl1-mesa-dev package isntalled i have seen there is an nvidia-glx-180-dev package containing this lib too which one is needed
[01:56] <Tyrath> like it works, it just doesn't download quotes from yahoo
[01:57] <aheckler> Vixy: yeah
[01:57] <Tyrath> i've been to the install manual, downloaded all the requirements, downloaded all the ubuntu requirements...
[01:57] <Jams44> How do I mount an iso?
[01:57] <Tyrath> still no luck - it's not getting the quotes
[01:57] <eseven73> !iso
[01:57] <tonsofpcs> ok, break, what's up?
[01:58] <kr00l> Jams44, you should go to add/remove and then select Gmout-isso
[01:58] <aheckler> Vixy: it looks like your card is support by this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/nvidia-glx-173
[01:58] <jer3my> Wondering if any one can give me a hand with Atheros ar242x wifi card and 8.10, i have tried many guide to get it enabled and still no wifi.
[01:58] <kr00l> -iso*
[01:58] <Tyrath> Jams44: I use  mount -o loop -t iso9660 <filename>.iso dir/
[01:58] <Arethius> where is the linux equivalent to the sounds and audio device properties?
[01:58] <Tyrath> !qttracker
[01:59] <Tyrath> :(\
[01:59] <Vixy> aheckler: Thank you very much
[01:59]  * Tyrath wishes there was a support channel for qttracker
[01:59] <jer3my> !Atheros
[01:59] <Mal3ko> where does ubuntu store cronjob files?
[01:59] <Mal3ko> where does ubuntu store cronjob files/settings*
[01:59] <Bax_> what's the terminal command to show my video card specs?
[02:00] <Vixy> I do have one more question. In terms of installing Ubuntu. I'd like to at first isntall it on a secondary drive that I have (two sata drives, one 500GB and the other 750GB) Reason being is I'm a bit of a gamer still and would like to keep my windows installation for now. If at a later time I decided to get rid of windows all together, is there a way to have my comptuer boot directly to Linux even though it's on the secondary drive
[02:00] <Vixy> ? Or would I have to reinstall it on the primary drive?
[02:01] <comradekingu> Bax_: Sudo lshw -C video
[02:01] <aheckler> Vixy: yes there is a way through GRUB, the Linux bootloader, although it's probably a bit of a stretch to explain it now
[02:01] <Vixy> aheckler: I wouldn't want it even if you could. Hehe, Not right now anyways, seeing as how I would be exploring with ubuntu first. But it's good to know that there is a way to do that.
[02:02] <wolter> where are the official spca5xx drivers for ubuntu?
[02:02] <usser> Vixy: just remove harddrive with windows when installing ubuntu, that way it will think its alone, and completely self contained, you can use bios boot menu to choose which hdd to boot
[02:02] <Tyrath> ok bbl, hopefully someone may know then
[02:02] <Cpudan80> usser: thats not a good idea
[02:02] <usser> Cpudan80: why not?
[02:03]  * yow|laptop agrees with usser about the bios option
[02:03] <Cpudan80> usser: because then you rely on the bios to do the bootloading
[02:03] <Cpudan80> usser: Just replace the windows bootloader with grub
[02:03] <Vixy> usser: Won't my computer be confused by the fact that there would be no HD in the Sata1 slot?
[02:03] <Cpudan80> no
[02:03] <usser> Cpudan80: yea but he said he wanted to keep windows sort of separate
[02:03] <Cpudan80> so what
[02:03] <usser> Vixy: not really with satas it doesnt matter
[02:03] <Cpudan80> The bootloader isnt part of windows
[02:04] <yow|laptop> depends where he wants the bootloader, from what i heard, he doesnt want it on the mbr
[02:04] <Cpudan80> oh I missed that part
[02:04] <Cpudan80> Why not?
[02:04] <Vixy> usser: And then when I do re-put in the hard drive, how will the computer know which to go to? I know you said in the bios, but I've had hard times before booting to different operating systems when things go wrong.
[02:04] <yow|laptop> he wants to just pull the other drive at will
[02:04] <yow|laptop> thats the way i took it, i could be wrong
[02:04] <Vixy> O_o
[02:05] <Cpudan80> thats not a very good idea
[02:05] <Vixy> I think I'm confusing people ^^;
[02:05] <usser> Vixy: they will be completely independent, one os wont know about the other, and bios bootloader is usually something like F12 when computer boots, at least on dells that is
[02:05] <yow|laptop> Vixy - its just a not a very typical way to do things, thats all
[02:05] <Cpudan80> Vixy: what are you trying to achieve ?
[02:06] <Cpudan80> Vixy: and what is your HDD setup now
[02:06] <aheckler> @Cpudan80 - Vixy: I do have one more question. In terms of installing Ubuntu. I'd like to at first isntall it on a secondary drive that I have (two sata drives, one 500GB and the other 750GB) Reason being is I'm a bit of a gamer still and would like to keep my windows installation for now. If at a later time I decided to get rid of windows all together, is there a way to have my comptuer boot directly to Linux even though it's on the secondary drive
[02:06] <Vixy> Let me explain. I have right now Vista Ultimate on my main hard drive (sata 500GB) I have a blank secondary hard drive (sata 750GB) that I would want to install Ubuntu on. At a later date, I might wish to get rid of windows all together, and I was just wondering if it was possible to have the computer automatically boot to that secondary hard drive automatically with windows gone.
[02:06] <wolter> where can i get a working gspca for intrepid ibex?
[02:07] <Cpudan80> aheckler: Yes - you just change the default boot option for grub
[02:07] <Cpudan80> !info gspca
[02:07] <Cpudan80> :-(
[02:07] <aheckler> Cpudan80: haha that was Vixy's original question, not mine :)
[02:07] <Flannel> Vixy: Are you looking to overwrite your windows bootloader right now?or no? or you don't care?
[02:07] <Cpudan80> aheckler: heh ok
[02:08] <macman> hmm.. the palm thing works .. i just can get pictures
[02:08] <macman> it syncs everything else but that
[02:08] <jer3my> !AR242x
[02:08] <Vixy> Flannel: No no. As I said earlier, I'm a gamer. I'd still like to be able to use my windows installation, but I'm saying at a later date when I get rid of windows, to have the computer boot to linux on the secondary drive like it was on the primary.
[02:08] <jer3my> !Atheros AR242x
[02:08] <jer3my> -.-
[02:08] <Cpudan80> Vixy: you can do that with a standard installation
[02:08] <aheckler> Vixy: installing a new bootloader wont effect windows
[02:09] <aheckler> *affect
[02:09] <Cpudan80> Vixy: The bootloader allows you to choose which one to start up
[02:09] <Flannel> Vixy: Yes, "overwriting the bootloader" doesn't mean can't boot to windows.  It would only affect it if you removed Ubuntu, you'd have to do a few steps to boot windows.
[02:09] <usser> Cpudan80: but if u install grub on primary disk and later remove it wouldnt it break things?
[02:09] <[TiZ]> Hi. My ellipses... the triple periods that appear when text is too long... they're turning into accented capital Es. It happens in the window switcher and in Firefox's tabs. I can't really pinpoint when it happens, it's kind of random. Does anyone know anything about this?
[02:09] <Cpudan80> usser: oh I see
[02:09] <usser> Cpudan80: remove the disk that is
[02:09] <Cpudan80> usser: well yes - but its not hard to reinstall grub
[02:09] <symptom> !udev
[02:10] <djabbour> are there any good resources for converting blu-ray movies to MKV files under linux? I found several tutorials and applications for Windows but can't seem to find any linux-specific resources?
[02:10] <yow|laptop> Vixy - i think it comes down to how often you would be booting between the OS's
[02:10] <Vixy> Flannel - Cpudan80: So pretty much when I install Ubuntu on my secondary drive it will create the "bootloader" which will give me the option of which to start up in. At a later date when I get rid of windows, I can just adjust the bootloader to automatically go to linux?
[02:10] <Tyrath> does this mean anything to anyone: QSettings: failed to open file '/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc' ?
[02:10] <zesss> anyone know of a good http mail program for ubuntu
[02:11] <Cpudan80> Vixy: yes - you just reinstall it
[02:11] <Vixy> Reinstall the bootloader?
[02:11] <Tyrath> zesss: http mail program? gmail.com would be one
[02:11] <zesss> to check hotmail
[02:11] <Cpudan80> Vixy: yes - the bootloader has to go on the primary drive
[02:11] <Tyrath> zesss: hotmail.com ?
[02:11] <Cpudan80> Vixy: if you remove it - then you have to reinstall it
[02:11] <Tyrath> zesss: i'm not sure an HTML program is what you're looking for
[02:12] <Tyrath> zesss: programs are seldom written in HTML unless they're located on a server
[02:12] <zesss> tryath im asking if there is a mail program like claw that will check my http mail also as well as my pop3
[02:12] <Vixy> Cpudan80: So even though nothing else would be on that primary hard drive because I "uninstalled" windows, I would have to have the bootloader as the only thing on there to point the computer to my secondary hard drive?
[02:12] <Jams44> !iso
[02:12] <Tyrath> zesss: oh. that's a different question. have you tried evolution or thunderbird?
[02:13] <Tyrath> !thunderbird | zesss
[02:13] <Cpudan80> Vixy: ehhhhh yes
[02:13] <Tyrath> !evolution | zesss
[02:13] <zesss> ill check it out
[02:13] <Tyrath> zesss: hope you like it
[02:13] <Cpudan80> Vixy: youd have to do this with windows too
[02:13] <Vixy> cpudan80: sorry for the stupid questions. I just want to make sure I would be doing this right.
[02:13] <Flyboarder> Installation help plz!
[02:13] <Cpudan80> Vixy: ex if linux was on the primary drive and you got rid of it
[02:13] <aheckler> Flyboarder: just ask your question :)
[02:13] <Eliteslave> Is there any Anti-Virus software for Ubuntu?
[02:13] <Tyrath> anyone?
[02:13] <Cpudan80> Vixy: The installer handles it all for you -- just make sure you dont overwrite Windows
[02:13] <lespea> does anybody know if ibex is going to use 2.6.29 or 2.6.28?
[02:14] <aheckler> Eliteslave: you dont need it :)
[02:14] <Cpudan80> Eliteslave: Yes there are -- but you really dont need them
[02:14] <Tyrath> the error message: QSettings: failed to open file '/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc'
[02:14] <Tyrath> - any way to fix it?
[02:14] <Flyboarder> aheckler: I am trying to install ubuntu and every time i do it opens BusyBox?
[02:14] <Cpudan80> Eliteslave: Just dont run random things with sudo
[02:14] <Vixy> Cpudan80: Just one more question and I'll leave you be ^^. Which would be best for someone like me to use? The Ubuntu 8.10 release? Or the 8.04 release?
[02:14] <aheckler> Flyboarder: that is odd...
[02:14] <Tyrath> I've set permissions to execute read and write
[02:14] <Tyrath> both group and universal permissions are switched off
[02:14] <Tyrath> still no luck
[02:14] <Eliteslave> Ok cool
[02:14] <ox--> ;x
[02:15] <Flyboarder> aheckler: it does the same with all the other buntu cd's i have
[02:15] <Tyrath> should
[02:15] <aheckler> Flyboarder: which ones have you tried?
[02:15] <Tyrath> should I enable group permissions?
[02:15] <adam_> is there a terminal command that cleans up unused packages/libs etc?
[02:15] <jer3my> Anyone here have or know anything about Atheros AR242x wifi cards? I have tried many guides to get it working on mine and i am having no luck.
[02:15] <yow|laptop> Flyboarder - did you check the cd before the install for integtrity?
[02:15] <aheckler> adam_: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:15] <Tyrath> adam_: there may be something under aptitude
[02:15] <Flyboarder> aheckler: ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu, ubuntu studio,
[02:16] <Tyrath> adam_: actually scrap that and follow what aheckler said
[02:16] <adam_> badass, thanks. Ill go man those too
[02:16] <Flyboarder> yow|laptop: yeah i have
[02:16] <aheckler> Flyboarder: and those were all regular CD's? have you tried the alternate CD?
[02:16] <Flyboarder> yep i tried that oo
[02:16] <Flyboarder> too*
[02:16] <Eliteslave> so do I need to d/l any drivers for my motherboard?
[02:17] <aheckler> Eliteslave: you shouldnt need to, you've tested with the LiveCD right?
[02:17] <Ryan_Delaney> Eliteslave: intensely unlikely
[02:17] <Tyrath> i've looking for a fix where I don't have to change permissions if at all possible
[02:17] <Tyrath> because for every problem I seem to get with ubuntu I'm always changing permission ownership to this user
[02:17] <Eliteslave> aheckler: I just installed it on a test laptop here at work
[02:17] <Tyrath> and i'm sure that's not the right way to do things
[02:17] <Flyboarder> aheckler: a text line came up saying rejecting drive
[02:18] <aheckler> Flyboarder: that's weird, you might want to make a post in the Installation subforum about that, more people will see it
[02:18] <Flyboarder> aheckler: how can i format my drive for buntu?
[02:18] <zesss> nope does gamil only
[02:18] <zesss> would like it to check hotmail
[02:18] <yow|laptop> Flyboarder -did you try safe graphics mode as well?
[02:18] <Eliteslave> Ryan - like under my Ethernet connection it says "ForcedEth0" what does that mean?
[02:19] <Flyboarder> yow|laptop: no ill try that
[02:19] <enovativ> can anyone help me with cfdisk ?   i was trying to create a bootable usb disk..but got the error : "Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed.  Reboot to update table"
[02:19] <aheckler> Flyboarder: well if you choose to install, ubuntu will format it for you, usually as ext3 (a linux filesystem)
[02:19] <Tyrath> gah
[02:19] <Flannel> zesss: You'll need to get a scraper that does pop to web.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hotmail&searchon=all&suite=intrepid&section=all
[02:19] <Mutton> Hello
[02:19] <enovativ> i used the ( -z ) switch when i ran cfddisk at the command line
[02:19] <Sylphid> Flyboarder, you may want to try running badblocks against your hard drive from a live disk as your drive may be failing
[02:19] <adam_> is there a website/reference that will explain the linux(ubuntu) file system? i.e. usr/lib/etc?
[02:20] <Flannel> !filesyste | adam_
[02:20] <Flannel> !filesystem | adam_
[02:20] <Flyboarder> aheckler: I have a live cd for windows but can i get a tool that will allow me to format the drive before i install
[02:20] <Flyboarder> Sylphid: what?
[02:20] <Jams44> So I have my alternate disk in my drive and it appears on my desktop but when i click it, it just goes into folder mode or whatever. io was never given an option to upgrade from it. any ideas?
[02:20] <adam_> lol you guys are good at this
[02:20] <Flannel> adam_: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html Also has more detail
[02:20] <aheckler> adam_:  we try ;-)
[02:20] <Flyboarder> Sylphid: oI had some bad sectors in my drive that i repaired with windows
[02:20] <jtaji> adam_: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[02:21] <aheckler> Flyboarder: so you want to erase your entire disk before installing ubuntu, is that what you're asking?
[02:21] <adam_> wish I had known about this place when I was attempting to setup VMware server 2,  but I switched to virtualbox
[02:21] <adam_> which was 10x easier
[02:21] <Flyboarder> aheckler: yeah i want it to be a buntu box
[02:21] <Sylphid> Flyboarder, linux marks a drive as "failing" if there have been more than 3 bad blocks
[02:21] <aheckler> !dban
[02:21] <aheckler> !DBAN
[02:21] <aheckler> garr
[02:22] <Flyboarder> Slyphid: ok so i should try another hdd
[02:22] <enovativ> can anyone help me with cfdisk ?
[02:22] <Sylphid> Flyboarder, if your in a live system open a terminal and run badblocks /dev/xxx where xxx is your hard drive (mine is sda)
[02:22] <aheckler> Flyboarder: try another HDD or maybe boot the livecd into "safe graphics mode" if you havent already
[02:23] <yow|laptop> enovativ - mark it as bootable and then quit the app, it is typically recommended to reboot after
[02:23] <eseven73> my swap is 4GiB is it safe to cut it to 2 gigs instead? If so how would i go about doing that Gparted?
[02:23] <Flyboarder> Slyphid: no working box aside from the vista one im one now
[02:23] <zesss> gmail
[02:23] <m3lawren> anyone have any idea why I'd be getting "Unable to retrieve MSN Address Book." when I try to log into my MSN account on Pidgin?
[02:23] <jer3my> Anyone give me a hand with dealing with Atheros AR242x wifi.  Running 6.06.2 here and I don't find  keytouch  in the repositories. Am I missing something? or blind?  :-)
[02:24] <aheckler> eseven73: 2GB is plenty but if you just change the partition then ubuntu will not recognize it and then it wont use *any* swap
[02:24] <n8tuser2> jer3my -> what does sudo lshw -c network tell you about your wifi?
[02:24] <jer3my> Nothing in there about wifi.
[02:24] <maryellen> The reason for asking is that my son bought me a nice 'multi-media' kbd and I read in the forum that keytouch is the simpliest way to get it setup.
[02:25] <n8tuser2> jer3my -> what does sudo lshw -C network tell you about your wifi?
[02:25] <eseven73> aheckler: hmmm I dont think i need it anyways, so its safe to delete ?
[02:25] <Sylphid> eseven73, install gparted with synaptic then run swapoff -a ... open gparted and modify the swap partition to the size you want then run swapon -a
[02:25] <yow|laptop> enovativ - what are you trying to set up? maybe i missed the original question
[02:25] <TheFunkbomb> silly question.  What's the difference between Remote Desktop Viewer and Terminal Server Client?
[02:25] <jer3my> n8tuser2, http://pastebin.com/d6fdba75a
[02:26] <aheckler> eseven73: yeah you could just remove it, but you may have to edit your fstab afterward so ubuntu doesnt go looking for it
[02:26] <eseven73> ok ty Sylphid and aheckler
[02:26] <aheckler> eseven73: what Sylphid said lol
[02:26] <enovativ> yow|laptop: i want to make the usb stick bootable, and then copy windows setup files to the stick so that i can install windows onto a machine that doesn't have a cd rom
[02:26] <eseven73> lol ok
[02:26] <n8tuser2> jer3my -> what can you summarize from that result?
[02:26] <Flyboarder> aheckler: what do you recomend for multi boot managment?
[02:27] <aheckler> Flyboarder: i thought you said you wanted only Ubuntu on your disk?
[02:27] <jer3my> n8tuser2, That its not enabled or drivers are missing, I have tried a guide that was talking about installing madwifi but it still doesnt work.
[02:27] <enovativ> yow|laptop: i thought i could use linux to make the usb stick bootable......thru research i have found that i could use cfdisk to make the usb stick bootable.  In using cfdisk i was able to pick out the options that i wanted but once i "write" to the usb stick...i get that error i mentionaed earlier.
[02:27] <Flyboarder> aheckler: i do but i want all 3 so i can compare for when im building my LFS build
[02:28] <n8tuser2> jer3my -> correct, so attempt to load the driver for it, the native or use ndiswrapper with windows drivers
[02:28] <mib_md77k2> maryellen: I only see Keytouch support feisty (7.x) on
[02:28] <KomiaPoika> installing kubuntu 8.10 on the sata disk of a pc that has an ide hard disk also with xp. how do i force grub to install on the ide disk? cause the pc doesn't see the sata disk at boot?
[02:28] <yow|laptop> enovativ - so if you open it using sudo and toggle the bootable option and then try to save and then quit, you get an error?
[02:28] <aheckler> Flyboarder: going to that length is really unnecessary, there's enough pro/con discussion online to point you to the right one
[02:29] <adam_> i think you have to force Compatibility mode
[02:29] <adam_> in BIOS
[02:29] <maryellen> mib_md77k2, drats! what should I use here then? ;-(
[02:29] <adam_> disable AHCI?
[02:29] <jer3my> n8tuser2, When i goto System>Admin>Hardware Drivers, all it says that it IS enabled  but a different version of this driver is in use.
[02:29] <aheckler> Flyboarder: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
[02:29] <n8tuser2> jer3my -> not from what you posted, its not loaded
[02:29] <mib_md77k2> maryellen: i wish i knew -- sorry :( .   R U stuck on 6 or planning to upgrade would be my guess
[02:30] <Flyboarder> aheckler: what is that?
[02:30] <aheckler> Flyboarder: a comparison of the 2 most popular versions of Ubuntu, Ubuntu (using GNOME desktop) and Kubuntu (using KDE)
[02:30] <enovativ> yow|laptop: i left for a minute ...did i miss a response from you ?
[02:30] <yow|laptop> enovativ - so if you open it using sudo and toggle the bootable option and then try to save and then quit, you get an error?
[02:31] <maryellen> mib_md77k2, i'm a FIRM believer that if it isn't broke, don't fix it! :-) this has been running like a DREAM for years and years now. I don't want to chance it or go thru the blues.
[02:31] <Flyboarder> aheckler: ok so its booting with new HDD
[02:31] <adm9393> using a geforce4 460 go graphics card....after installing drivers with envyNG on Ubuntu 8.04, I reboot to find that my screen and graphics card cannot be detected at all and am stuck in low graphics mode...any ideas? I've searched through forums and have found no results except to uninstall the driver and use very generic drivers.
[02:31] <aheckler> Flyboarder: so the LiveCD works on it now?
[02:32] <Flyboarder> aheckler: its still doing the loading screen
[02:32] <enovativ> yow|laptop: yes, the error that i get is as follows : "Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed.  Reboot to update table"
[02:32] <aheckler> Flyboarder: ahh ok, but it's past the point where it failed before?
[02:32] <yow|laptop> enovativ - are you making these changes using sudo?
[02:32] <Flyboarder> aheckler: no
[02:32] <aheckler> oh lol
[02:32] <Flyboarder> aheckler: not yet
[02:32] <Flyboarder> lol:P
[02:32] <aheckler> cross your fingers
[02:32] <enovativ> yow|laptop: i su to root before i run cfdisk -z
[02:33] <Flyboarder> aheckler: what do you recommend as a base for my LFS?
[02:33] <Flyboarder> which distro?
[02:33] <enovativ> yow|laptop: is there a difference between "su" to root and "sudo" to root ?
[02:33] <aheckler> Flyboarder: what do you mean? which filesystem type would i suggest?
[02:33] <yow|laptop> yes enovativ but not for that example really
[02:33] <aheckler> or partition plan?
[02:34] <justin__> how do i put a picture on the bottem of my cube
[02:34] <Flyboarder> aheckler: well which distro would you suggest i use to start my LFS?
[02:34] <Sylphid> enovativ, sudo retains user environment variables while su does not
[02:34] <mib_md77k2> maryellen: I hear you.  I looked thru some release notes.  Looks like there *may* have been package inclusion notes on Dapper and Edgy to include keytouch & keytouch-editor, but doesnt look like they made it in.  Have you tried ALL repositories?
[02:34] <yow|laptop> maryellen - i can see your point, but then you are cut off from advances in the OS. might be worth trying to live cd to test out the hw and such
[02:34] <enovativ> Sylphid: thank you very much
[02:34] <aheckler> Flyboarder: I run Ubuntu with GNOME and it suits me just fine
[02:34] <Sylphid> enovativ, if you what to get to a root shell the best way is sudo -i
[02:34] <BellinXFelon> can someone help me with my seagate freeagent drive, i used gparted to format it to ext3, and xubuntu recognizes it but i cant put anything on it
[02:35] <Flyboarder> aheckler: so now it keeps bringing up errors
[02:35] <yow|laptop> BellinXFelon - check the permissions on the drive folder
[02:35] <n8tuser2> BellinXFelon -> you made an ext3 filesystem on it?
[02:35] <BellinXFelon> i did that it says read/write
[02:35] <BellinXFelon> yea
[02:35] <aheckler> Flyboarder: what do they say?
[02:35] <BellinXFelon> was i supposed to do differently?
[02:35] <n8tuser2> !who
[02:35] <yow|laptop> BellinXFelon - you cant create a directory even using sudo on it?
[02:36] <Elive_user54> just did the 'Make bootable USB stick' from a Live Ubuntu 8.10 CD...
[02:36] <Joe_> for some reason, randomly, firefox (on 8.10) keeps typing "backwards"... anyone have any ideas?
[02:36] <Flyboarder> Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block .........
[02:36] <Elive_user54> ... how do I boot from it on an iMaac?
[02:36] <BellinXFelon> i havent tried
[02:36] <BellinXFelon> it reads it as "499G Volume"
[02:36] <n8tuser2> !who  | BellinXFelon
[02:36] <Sylphid> Joe_, ive had that happen befor but im not sure what caused it but restarting firefox fixed it
[02:36] <aheckler> Flyboarder: sheesh....i dunno man, i'd probably post in the forums
[02:37] <Flyboarder> ok
[02:37] <Flyboarder> aheckler: well this blows
[02:37] <Flyboarder> lmao
[02:37] <BellinXFelon> !n8tuser2 i dont know how to get it to read/write
[02:37] <n8tuser2> BellinXFelon -> you made an ext3 filesystem on it?
[02:37] <santineh> test
[02:37] <aheckler> Flyboarder: yeah sorry dude, i cant help you too much more
[02:38] <BellinXFelon> n8tuser2 yes i did with gparted
[02:38] <Flyboarder> aheckler: i will try installing windows 7 make sure the new drive works
[02:38] <aheckler> Flyboarder: good idea
[02:38] <Rain> Hey.
[02:38] <n8tuser2> BellinXFelon -> i dont believe gparted makes a filesystem, you have to issue a command to make a file system, man mk2efs something like that
[02:39] <n8tuser2> BellinXFelon -> man mkfs.ext3
[02:39] <Rain> Hey guys I need help with a deb packagae
[02:39] <yow|laptop> gparted will format can it not?
[02:39] <aheckler> Rain: just ask :)
[02:39] <BellinXFelon> n8tuser2 im not sure how to do that, i am new to this
[02:39] <Rain> okay.
[02:39] <flip> hey guys ---- i just installed 8.10 on a lenovo t60p; working outta the box absolutely great, except it connect to my wlan for a few minutes then just drops it
[02:39] <flip> anyone ever see this?
[02:39] <techsupport> how can i uninstall perl without the other packages ?
[02:40] <Rain> Well I downloaded the edb package to install wine for ubuntu 8.04 but it says "dependacy not satisfiable: binfmt-support" what does this mean?
[02:40] <Rain> deb*
[02:40] <flip> if i reconnect to the wlan it connects up np
[02:40] <DiiPhantom> trying to install xchat on another pc, but its not showing on synaptic
[02:40] <flip> then dies again in a few minutes
[02:40] <flip> ???
[02:40] <Flannel> Rain: You likely grabbed the wrong version.  If you need an up-to-date wine version, check out the winehq repositories.
[02:40] <aheckler> Rain: you need the package called "binfmt-support"
[02:41] <n8tuser2> BellinXFelon -> man mkfs.ext3
[02:41] <Rain> Let me try..
[02:41] <BellinXFelon> in terminal?
[02:41] <BellinXFelon> n8tuser2
[02:42] <n8tuser2> BellinXFelon -> yes, type in a terminal
[02:42] <Flyboarder> aheckler: so my windows live cd is booting, is the a tool for linux formating?
[02:42] <[TiZ]> Hi. The ellipse character that indicates that the title of a window is too big for gnome-panel's window switcher... it's turned into an uppercase accented E. Can anyone help me fix this?
[02:42] <[TiZ]> It'll go back to normal if I restart, but I'd like to know why in hades it's happening.
[02:43] <aheckler> Flyboarder: not that i know of in Windows, there might be though, i'm not sure
[02:43] <jinja-sheep> What excellent package have the ability to create *.img ?
[02:43] <Joe_> I waited months to upgrade to Intrepid... in hopes small stupid bugs like this would have been fixed... wtf
[02:43] <Rain> I'm confused -_-
[02:44] <mib_7fb92a> maryellen: i found these:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+source/keytouch-editor   &&   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=694334    if you want to try adding it yourself
[02:44] <jinja-sheep> Small bugs?  Fix them yourself. :)
[02:44] <Comet> can anyone tell me the way to completely flush everything in ifconfig ?
[02:44] <aheckler> Comet: what do you mean flush?
[02:44] <mib_7fb92a> maryellen: and the sourceforge project page http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=111201
[02:44] <Comet> aheckler: just get rid of any inet entries and such
[02:44] <Comet> i tried a flushall but i get an invalid argument
[02:44] <Flyboarder> aheckler: ok so it looks like im gonna be building a whole new box (instead of fixing these old ones i have) anything i should stay away from if im building a buntu box?
[02:45] <aheckler> Flyboarder: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[02:45] <Flyboarder> aheckler: great thanks
[02:45] <n8tuser2> Comet -> what do you meant by flush all? are you understanding what needs disabled?
[02:46] <aheckler> Comet: try looking under "man ifconfig" for what you need
[02:46] <techqbert> Sound stopped working on my Asus EEE 1000h 40g (Ubuntu 8.10).  Would it be wise to uninstall pulse audio and see if sound works then?
[02:46] <Jams44> I am trying to run update manager on 7.04 and I get a error that repositories could not be found and lists 404 errors on a series of updates? how can i update from 7.04 to 7.10 if it can find the files on ubuntu's server?
[02:47] <aheckler> Jams44: try switching to a different server in System > Administration > Software Sources
[02:47] <n8tuser2> Jams44 -> may I suggest a fresh install instead of just an upgrade,  usually upgrade causes so much headaches
[02:47] <Jams44> aheckler: alright, thanks, ill tryi out
[02:47] <Jams44> n8user2: I may just have to
[02:47] <earthmeLon> I have a question about using "ifconfig hw"  Do I do "ifconfig hw wlan0" or do I have to use ether.  All of the examples I see use ether, but I'm not sure if that's supposed to be the controler name or what... "\
[02:47] <BellinXFelon> ok
[02:48] <aheckler> Jams44: i agree with n8tuser2 though, fresh install usually are much cleaner
[02:48] <Rain> Where can I get this binfmt support thing?
[02:48] <jsmidt_> hey
[02:48] <earthmeLon> OH!!! hw is the interface name
[02:48] <DiiPhantom> any ideas why xchat not coming up in synaptic?
[02:49] <earthmeLon> err, it goes before hw*
[02:49] <aheckler> Rain: if you're using the latest WINE, install binfmt-support with "sudo apt-get install binfmt-support"
[02:49] <Ryan_Delaney> DiiPhantom: all repos enabled?
[02:49] <Flyboarder> aheckler: any idea where i can sell some old pc parts?
[02:49] <Flannel> DiiPhantom: Have you reloaded your lists?
[02:49] <BellinXFelon> n8tuser2 i am in terminal and i typed that
[02:49] <DiiPhantom> i did click reload
[02:49] <DiiPhantom> restarted twice
[02:49] <Ryan_Delaney> Flyboarder: ebay?
[02:49] <earthmeLon>  ifconfig wlan0 hw eth0  < That's correct, eh?
[02:49] <n8tuser2> earthmeLon -> nope
[02:49] <DiiPhantom> had to install it with aptitude
[02:50] <aheckler> Flyboarder: the Community Market forum -> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=38
[02:50] <earthmeLon> Whaaaa n8tuser2.  errr eth0=ether
[02:50] <n8tuser2> BellinXFelon -> read up what it says about making a file system
[02:50] <Flyboarder> Ryan_Delaney: thought of that but i wont make anything due to shipping and these parts are like 8+ years old
[02:50] <imyousuf> I am can not connect to MSN/GTalk from pidgin because of "No SSL/TLS installed" any idea what packages I should install for it in hardy?
[02:51] <Joe_> anyone else use a Logitech MX5500 keyboard in 8.10, I had found a way to make the number pad work but I can't find it again...
[02:52] <aheckler> !ssl
[02:52] <techsupport> how can i downgrade my perl version ?
[02:52] <bartek> Hi, I'm looking to create a DVD that would be playable on a DVD player. What programs would you recommend for this? Dont need fancy titles, just needs to be playable on a standard dvd player
[02:53] <AbstortedMinds> would gnome take advantage of a quad core 64 bit?
[02:53] <AbstortedMinds> meaning the whole desktop experience
[02:54] <AbstortedMinds> ie, is gnome multithreaded
[02:54] <techsupport> ubuntu server 8.10 , from perl v.5.10 to perl v.5.8
[02:54] <tave> I have Vista and ubuntu duel boot on my system and I want to make more space for ubuntu from the Vista partition what is a good tool to do this with an already installed system?
[02:54] <techsupport> how can i downgrade ?
[02:54] <aheckler> tave: gparted
[02:54] <aheckler> !gparted
[02:54] <tave> cool thanks
[02:55] <Flyboarder> tave: diskpart - opened from run
[02:55] <tave> k, will try that too, thanks guys
[02:55] <ryanakca> I've shrunk my PV using pvresize. How can I shrink the PV's partition to match it's size?
[02:55] <Flyboarder> tave: google diskpart you should find a good list of commands for that
[02:56] <Rain> thanks guys.
[02:56] <bartek> If I put in a DVD into my drive, how can I check via the command line what type it is (DVD-R, DVD+R, etc .. )
[02:56] <maryellen> mib_7fb92a, Thank You Very Much, but I've just decided to compile it.
[02:56] <imyousuf> I have libnss3 and libgnutls13 installed but pidgin (for gtalk & msn) still complains it can not find suitable ssl, any hints please? (Ubuntu 8.04, Pidgin 2.1.1)
[02:56] <mib_7fb92a> maryellen: that would be my path.  good luck.
[02:57] <Starnestommy> imyousuf: what about openssl's libssl?
[02:57] <imyousuf> Starnestommy: ok, installing that as well
[02:57] <maryellen> mib_7fb92a, wherein lies my next issue. :-(  configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH   Is this gcc that I need to install?
[02:57] <mib_7fb92a> yes
[02:58] <imyousuf> Starnestommy: I have libssl0.9.8 installed as well :(
[02:58] <maryellen> mib_7fb92a, i'm seeing QUITE the list of gcc's available. Is there a 'certian one' I should go for?
[02:59] <imyousuf> I have libssl0.9.8, libnss3 and libgnutls13 installed but pidgin (for gtalk & msn) still complains it can not find suitable ssl, any hints please? (Ubuntu 8.04, Pidgin 2.1.1) (modified rerun)
[02:59] <gopp> !theme
[02:59] <mib_7fb92a> maryellen: itll depend on which lib headers that particular package needs to pull in
[02:59] <maryellen> mib_7fb92a, would gcc-4.0 be alright?
[03:00] <mib_7fb92a> maryellen: should be .    problem will be finding the right one that mathces the age of that package and which was compatible with 6.0x
[03:00] <Logomachist> Anyone know where Jedit installs itself? I'm looking in a bunch of folders and Linux seems to put programs all over the place. Why are there so many directories?
[03:01] <ryanakca> I've shrunk my PV using pvresize. How can I shrink the PV's partition to match it's size?
[03:02] <enovativ> now that i have used cfdisk, i think the "write" took place of what i want the usb stick to be and that is bootable...but now i can not mount the usb stick for some reason.  i have tried the following at a commnad line : mount -t vfat -o uid=username,gid=user /dev/sdb /media/disk
[03:03] <enovativ> i get the error : "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some case useful info is found in syslog - try dmegs | tail or so
[03:05] <Flyboarder> aheckler, yo|laptop, Slyphid: THANKS FOR YOUR HELP LOOKS LIKE IM BUILDING A NEW MACHINE WITH PARTS THAT WONT BE 8+ YEARS OLD THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME BYES ;)
[03:06] <gopp> how do I make ubuntu look like windows 2000
[03:06] <AbstortedMinds> dont!
[03:06] <AbstortedMinds> :p
[03:06] <gopp> ahh
[03:06] <Flyboarder> gop: you theme it lmao
[03:07] <Eliteslave> is there a way to get Ubuntu to play my dvd's or Bluerays?
[03:07] <gopp> no i mean I understand theme it
[03:07] <gopp> fly but which theme
[03:07] <gopp> and were do I find it
[03:07] <gopp> I only seen xp theme
[03:07] <peepaw> what zip works with xubuntu?
[03:07] <gopp> unzip
[03:07] <n8tuser2> jar too
[03:07] <gopp> apt-cache search zip peepaw
[03:08] <gopp> sudo apt-cache search zip
[03:09] <Y-Town> Eliteslave: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683&highlight=howto+multimedia
[03:11] <gizmo> how im going to be root in my terminaL?
[03:11] <Y-Town> gizmo: sudo
[03:11] <eseven73>  !root
[03:11] <gbear14275> I seem to be having problems getting my pidgin to connect to MSN  I get the Unable to retrieve MSN Address Book error
[03:11] <Joe_> 8.10 using old drivers (nvidia-96) glx doesn't seem to load... any ideas?
[03:12] <mosno> in evolution, how can i add a securty exception for an invalid https certificate (Outlook Web Access)?
[03:12] <opera> hello.what mean this word :                                                                              Coming
[03:12] <opera> from a Microsoft world, where you might just be used to having one hard drive, it can
[03:12] <opera> seem a bit strange to use an operating system that makes partitioning important.
[03:12] <exodus_ms> !enter > opera
[03:13] <Ryan_Delaney> !enter > Ryan_Delaney
[03:13] <computer13137> I'm following a how-to posted online about limiting local network traffic by IP address.  I'm trying to setup qdisks with TC.  I'm getting an error with the simplest command, there must be something wrong with the syntax from the tutorial I'm guessing.
[03:13] <computer13137> The error is:
[03:13] <computer13137> Object "qdisk" is unknown, try "tc help".
[03:13] <Y-Town> kinda quiet tonight
[03:13] <computer13137> The command I tried to run:
[03:14] <computer13137> tc qdisc add dev eth1 root handle 1: cbq avpkt 1000 bandwidth 10mbit
[03:17] <quinn2005> hi
[03:18] <quinn2005> i need some tech help
[03:18] <quinn2005> i have a problem using my DVD-ROM drive in ubuntu 8.04 to read NTFS burnt dvd-rs that contain multiple mp3 and avi files
[03:19] <quinn2005> can anyone help? i heard something about ntfs-3g
[03:19] <pyrophelia> way back when I use to use fxp clients to update ftp server mirrors manually.  Is there anything like fxp for sftp?
[03:19] <gbear14275> I'm having problems getting my MSN to connect correctly... anyone had any problems recently?  Says "Unable to retrieve MSN Address Book"
[03:19] <quinn2005> gbear14275, pidgin is having server problem. it'll be back up soon
[03:19] <e75> does audio not work under hdmi in ubuntu?
[03:19] <quinn2005> i checked their official IRC chat channel
[03:20] <gbear14275> thanks quinn2005
[03:20] <Bmap> is there a minimal ubuntu install without a gui?
[03:20] <quinn2005> your welcome gbear14275
[03:20] <quinn2005> bmap, check out wikipedia.
[03:20] <quinn2005> search ubuntu
[03:20] <eseven73> !minimal
[03:20] <quinn2005> lists all verersions
[03:20] <Bmap> i did
[03:21] <Bmap> i found the minimal cd
[03:21] <quinn2005> awesome
[03:21] <Bmap> wasnt sure if it just is a small cd
[03:21] <Bmap> or a small os
[03:21] <ZuckusFIll> is anyone else having trouble connecting to MSN with Pidgin right now?
[03:21] <ZuckusFIll> says it's unable to rerieve MSN address book
[03:21] <luis_> no
[03:21] <luis_> is good
[03:21] <jacekowski> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VcydqSpYN00&feature=channel - WOW
[03:21] <e75> does ubuntu handle audio through hdmi?
[03:21] <luis_> maybe you got some misstyping
[03:22] <jacekowski> i started melting my brain with /b/ on 4chan and i can feel it working
[03:22] <eseven73> !ot | jacekowski
[03:22] <DavidH_> what could be that i cant see xchat or ndiswrapper from synaptic in one laptop, but i can from another one?
[03:22] <pyrophelia> jacekowski, I can only watch about 15 seconds before my brain starts to bleed.  does something happen?
[03:23] <e75> ummm hellllo?
[03:23] <e75> hdmi + ubuntu. does it work?
[03:23] <tritium> e75: yes
[03:23] <e75> as far as audio is concerned
[03:23] <biker> how do i set up the link between /home/USER and /var/www/ to set up www.boscoslife.com
[03:23] <Y-Town> jacekowski: We can go downtown to see the crackheads
[03:23] <jacekowski> pyrophelia: nothing really, except you can't stop watching her
[03:23] <Bmap> is there an option to remove the desktop enviroment from ubuntu install
[03:23] <e75> well i know the video works
[03:23] <tritium> e75: for audio, newer nvidia, ati and intel are supported
[03:23] <pyrophelia> yea I can...
[03:23] <e75> buuut audio yeah.
[03:23] <eseven73> !repos | DavidH_
[03:24] <b|urry>  /join #slackware
[03:24] <e75> well i guess just not outta the box?
[03:24] <alinaloves> hello! anyone know anything 'bout nvidia geforce4 go drivers? a relative tried here earlier, but we could def use help! nvidia geforce4 460go doesnt detect correctly on ubuntu 8.04LTS after installing with envyNG. any ideas?
[03:24] <Lemmings> i need some help,I can't login to my ubuntu desktop cus I changed the refresh setting,and all I see now is white screen,how to I change that from commandline,pardon my noobness
[03:24] <tritium> e75: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_hdmi&num=1
[03:25] <ZuckusFIll>  is anyone else having trouble connecting to MSN with Pidgin right now? says it's unable to rerieve MSN address book
[03:25] <eseven73> ZuckusFIll: a few people are reporting that too
[03:25] <Y-Town> ZuckusFIll: <quinn2005> gbear14275, pidgin is having server problem. it'll be back up soon
[03:26] <PhrozenDead> How do you install KDE on ubuntu?
[03:26] <tritium> e75: that was as of one month ago.  The situation is about the same now.
[03:26] <ZuckusFIll> ok cool man, thanks alot
[03:26] <biker> how do i set up the link between /home/USER and /var/www/ to set up www.boscoslife.com
[03:26] <tritium> PhrozenDead: if you want KDE in addition to your existing gnome install, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <Joe_> is there a work around (besides autostart) for the 8.10 gnome session restore bug?
[03:27] <PhrozenDead> thank you
[03:27] <tritium> Joe_: bug #?
[03:27] <Joe_> tritium there's quite a few of them, but it's quite simple... gnome's session restore doesn't restore
[03:28] <biker> how do i link /home/USER and /var/www/ to get www.boscoslife.com working in my own user accuount
[03:28] <tritium> Joe_: nothing on launchpad?
[03:28] <alinaloves> sorry for being so persistent but we are a little desperate at this point...anyone know anything 'bout nvidia geforce4 go drivers? nvidia geforce4 460go doesnt detect correctly on ubuntu 8.04LTS after installing with envyNG. We've tried a lot of searching but no success...
[03:29] <Joe_> tritium as I said, quite a few of them, here's one 249373 I haven't finished reading the comments to see if someone put in a work around, figured it would be faster to ask here
[03:29] <tritium> alinaloves: we don't advise using envy
[03:29] <alinaloves> no?
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[03:29] <ZuckusFIll> PhrozenDead check PIM
[03:29] <tritium> Joe_: don't know, as I've not encountered that bug
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> alinaloves, Notice Unsupported and use at your own risk
[03:29] <Y-Town> PhrozenDead: You can also run kde apps on ubuntu without having to do a full kubuntu/kde install
[03:30] <Joe_> tritium are you using 8.10 with gnome 2.24?
[03:30] <DasEi> alinaloves: which g-card ?
[03:30] <tritium> Joe_: yes
[03:30] <koshari> alinaloves i would suspect the standard nvidia drivers should work, i have a couple of gf4s and gf2 working frine
[03:30] <Joe_> tritium go save your session and restart the computer, you'll encouter it ;)
[03:30] <tritium> Joe_: perhaps another time
[03:31] <alinaloves> geforce4 460go.....i apologize, i had no idea that this was not supported.
[03:31] <exacube> hello
[03:31] <tritium> alinaloves: it's always best to use the standard ubuntu packages
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> alinaloves, np, we do try to help
[03:31] <exacube> how do i automount my other partitions when ubuntu starts
[03:31] <DasEi> alinaloves: did you look at nvidia hp for a linux driver ?
[03:31] <Joe_> tritium it's quite irritating, expecially combined with the xinerama bug where all mouse buttons stop working... but I at least found a way around that one
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> exacube, create mount point and add entry to fstab
[03:31] <DasEi> exacube: put 'em in fstab
[03:31] <alinaloves> nvidia hp...?
[03:31] <TheFunkbomb> so, now I'm looking to do cooler stuff with ubuntu but I'm not sure what
[03:32] <alinaloves> im sorry i dont quite understand
[03:32] <DasEi> alinaloves: did you look at nvidia homepage for a linux driver ?
[03:32] <lex0> for sound nob on my keyboard, its master volume that moves even though the other slider is set to control pcm. how do i change it to one that does affect my volume?
[03:32] <tritium> alinaloves, DasEi: no, don't use nvidia downloads either.  Please use ubuntu packages.
[03:32] <eseven73> Joe_: Window Maker has a nice session storage, if you're not apposed to using alternative Window managers :)   it works with Gnome and KDE too. so you wouldnt be loosing anything.
[03:32] <alinaloves> and where could i find those packages?
[03:32] <tritium> !nvidia
[03:32] <DasEi> tritium:it's 8.04, drivers there did well for me..
[03:33] <exacube> how would i go about adding it to fstab?
[03:33] <tritium> DasEi: it's always best to use ubuntu packages that will be under package-management of dpkg/apt
[03:33] <DasEi> exacube: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:33] <Joe_> seven73 thanks... I might try that if I don't find something else, actually thinking of using kubuntu on my next computer (not a big fan of testing things on this one as it's my main work computer)
[03:33] <lex0> for sound nob on my keyboard, its master volume that moves even though the other slider is set to control pcm. how do i change it to one that does affect my volume?
[03:33] <alinaloves> ubottu: thank you
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium, goodnight see you tomorrow
[03:34] <tritium> See you, Jack_Sparrow.
[03:34] <eseven73> Joe_: that's what VirtualBox is for! Testing!!!! hehe ;)
[03:34] <exacube> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:34] <exacube> so that's..
[03:34] <Joe_> seven73 prefer VMware myself
[03:35] <exacube> /dev/sda5 /media/WinXP ntfs rw 0 0
[03:35] <exacube> ?
[03:35] <eseven73> Vmware with that horrid web interface?! O.o.......hmmm to each their own i guess ;)
[03:35] <DasEi> exacube : which parti you want to automount ?
[03:35] <n9xph> I have a boot problem with gutsy. seems to not be able to find /dev/hda5
[03:35] <exacube> DasEi, /dev/sda5
[03:35] <Joe_> eseven73 more of a, I used this one first so I'm used to it any other things "feel" strange
[03:36] <DasEi> exacube: /dev/sda5 /media/WinXP ntfs user,auto,rw   0 0
[03:36] <eseven73> Joe_: yeah i know how that is, qemu feels weird to me although i hear good things about it.
[03:36] <exacube> what's user,auto,rw mean?
[03:36] <Joe_> anyone know if there's a way to make xbindkeys change a keys function based off the active application?  I use imwheel for my MX Revo, but for some reason imwheel doesn't recognize 3 buttons (side thumb wheel) but xbindkeys does
[03:37] <DasEi> exacube: user makes it accesible without sudo, auto is automount, rw is read-write
[03:37] <hckyplayer024> Hi, so im trying to connect to my wireless network. The security is WPA2 and at first It could not see my network at all. I then installed wpasupplicant and I could then see my network but when I enter in my password it just tries to connect and then displays the enter password screen again. Im positive im putting my password in right and when i click show password its a bunch of letters and nubers
[03:37] <ZuckusFIll> Joe_: but vmware is SOO proprietary
[03:37] <DasEi> exacube:also did you create /media/WinXP ?
[03:37] <Joe_> eseven73 well... I did find a "workaround" for this session restore bug... but it's more like making scripts to reproduce the functionality... not exactly how I would want to do it, but being able to script anything is why we all use Linux...
[03:38] <exacube> DasEi: yup :)
[03:38] <exacube> thanks so much!
[03:38] <andresmh> embedded Flash on Firefox shows as a gray rectangle after a few hours of browsing on a couple of Flash websites. Restarting Frirefox helps but I was wondering if there is anything I can do to prevent it or debug it.
[03:38] <mib_7fb92a> ZuckusFIll: try the Sun xVM player.  I tried it yesterday and put 8.04 in a VM on an xp box.  flawless....
[03:38] <DiiPhantom> why arent some packages, like XCHAT and ndiswrapper no showing up in synaptic
[03:38] <DasEi> exacube: so save fstab, then mount -a  and take a look in /media....
[03:38] <earthmeLon> Uhm, wth....My computer just started randomly typing backwards in all FF input fields, including the google search
[03:38] <DasEi> exacube: so save fstab, then sudo mount -a  and take a look in /media....
[03:38] <exacube> DasEi: it wokrs :D
[03:38] <High_Speed> where can i find the list of localized ubuntu channels (like for specific regions or states in the US)?
[03:38] <ZuckusFIll> yeah, I know, I love virtuakl box
[03:38] <earthmeLon> As in, instead of the cursor moving to the right, it moves to the left.  Any suggestions guys?
[03:39] <andresmh> another interesting thing is that when Flash goes gray on Firefox and I open Mozilla Prism it still works on Prism. So it must be an issue with Firefox.
[03:39] <exacube> DasEi: so i can expect it to auto-mount the partitions when i boot next time?
[03:39] <Guest94563> can anyone help me with wine?
[03:39] <DasEi> exacube: nice and yes
[03:39] <exacube> DasEi, again, thanks a lot!
[03:39] <vigo> andresmh: I use that plugin thing,,,from Mozilla
[03:39] <eseven73> Joe_: glad you got it "working" :)
[03:39] <andresmh> what plugin thing vigo?
[03:39] <DasEi> Guest94563: more specific ?
[03:40] <Joe_> anyone know how to reprogram the clear calc button on an MX5500 keyboard back into the numlock key?  it seems to act like backspace which is irritating as my attempts to fix it also made the real backspace key become numlock
[03:40] <Guest94563> im trying to play on a private ragnarok server with wine but wine does not know how to connect, i think it has something to do with iptables but idk how to redirect to the server address
[03:40] <vigo> andresmh: No Script,,one sec,,let me look at it
[03:40] <ryanakca> I've shrunk my PV using pvresize. How can I shrink the PV's partition to match it's size?
[03:40] <andresmh> vigo, ah yes, but how does that help?
[03:40] <andresmh> I do want Flash to appear
[03:40] <vigo> andresmh: Flash Block
[03:41] <eseven73> Guest94563: you could try firestarter.
[03:41] <Joe_> eseven73 this has probably been my hardest upgrade yet, but a lot of it was because I wanted to get my new mouse/keyboard fully working... and Logitech sucks in that they don't have Linux drivers
[03:41] <mib_7fb92a> High_Speed: list of loco teams on Community pages (i.e. #ubuntu-california)
[03:41] <CarlFK> are there other voices for espeak?
[03:41] <ZuckusFIll> lex0: check PIM
[03:41] <vigo> andresmh: It gives an option to flash,,,is rather handy
[03:41] <eseven73> Joe_: odd, my Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse work great in Linux
[03:42] <andresmh> vigo: Flash block will help me if I wanted to block Flash, but my problem is that Flash stops working after a few hours of browsing and I do want Flash to continue working.
[03:42] <Guest94563> eseven73 downloading and installing
[03:42] <dragon1> can someone guide me to troubleshoot audio.....? I am using ubuntu 8.10 and not able to hear any sound or play video in movie player..
[03:42] <Joe_> eseven73 MX5500 Revolution, no open drivers for the keyboard (got it mostly working, only 5 extra buttons not working so far and half of the LCD features)  Got the mouse all working (required upgrade to intrepid, hardy just didn't like it)
[03:43] <vigo> andresmh: this plugin allows or does not allow, is based on what you decide when flash is wanting to run,,the h2g2 was not working, I installed that, it works fine now.
[03:43] <DasEi> !sound | dragon1
[03:43] <Joe_> eseven73 had a nice bonus of now my wife will NEVER touch my computer... 5 monitors and a mouse with 15 buttons just confuses the hell out of her :P
[03:43] <andresmh> what is h2g2?
[03:43] <DasEi>  dragon1: alsamixer installed ?
[03:43] <omny_devi> lol
[03:43] <eseven73> Joe_: haha
[03:43] <vigo> Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
[03:44] <andresmh> ah :)
[03:44] <andresmh> interesting
[03:44] <andresmh> i'll try it out!
[03:44] <andresmh> do you have by default that it blocks out all the Flash content?
[03:44] <joborociroboroqu> how can i play need for speed, medal of honor and so on on ubuntu?
[03:44] <vigo> andresmh: Is still online in the Comm64/Amiga mode
[03:44] <dragon1> DasEi: yes when i try to play it gives error as "Could not get/set settings from/on resource."
[03:44] <vigo> andresmh: Yes
[03:45] <andresmh> interesting vigo, I'd like it so by default it plays all Flash. do you think that would help?
[03:45] <DasEi>  dragon1: this is what alsamixer gives out ?
[03:45] <Joe_> oh... here's another small thing I can't figure out, in Hardy (and the live CD for intrepid, but that's just 1 monitor) the desktop switcher (on my tool bar) uses small squares for the desktops... but when I upgraded they became these massive rectagles (twice the size of hardy)... how do I resize them, I like having 4 workspaces but that just takes up way too much room on my toolbar
[03:45] <noodlesgc> Nice. Ubuntu in the NyTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/business/11ubuntu.html?_r=1&emc=eta1
[03:45] <vigo> andresmh: when I visit like youtoob or BBC1,2, I activate or allow it to run
[03:45] <omny_devi> joborociroboroqu: wine or cedega
[03:45] <koshari> joborociroboroqu wine? to be honest windows is prolly a better platform for proprietry gaming
[03:46] <modjor> hi all
[03:46] <andresmh> vigo, did you see on their page Flash Block is having an issue with Firefox from Ubuntu?
[03:46] <vigo> andresmh: Yes, it is completely customizable by the user.
[03:47] <vigo> andresmh: I use SeaMonkey and the UbuFox
[03:47] <dragon1> DasEi: how do i go about...?
[03:47] <joborociroboroqu> omny_devi, but dont i need any config or file to play?
[03:47] <DasEi>  dragon1: using ibex ?
[03:48] <dragon1> DasEi: no i dont know about that..
[03:48] <modjor> I have a plain text file of the format <number> <tab> <path-of-file>. I want to grep the <path-of-file> part only which is made of only strings. Any oneliner code that would do that ?
[03:49] <DasEi> !version | dragon1
[03:49] <BarryManilow> I am a version 1.1.0 PyBorg
[03:50] <dragon1> ubuntu 8.10
[03:51] <tritium> BarryManilow: test
[03:51] <jinja-sheep> Any good voice-to-text app?
[03:51] <dragon1>  DasEi: i am unable to open even preferences on volume control...
[03:51] <e75> alright, so where would you manually edit which driver ubuntu uses? (considering its not in xorg.conf anymore)
[03:51] <e75> ...
[03:52] <DasEi> dragon1: open a terminal
[03:52] <dragon1> ok opened
[03:53] <miranda_psi> e75: what driver are you talking about?
[03:53] <jillian876> hi. does anyone know how to list all drives in terminal in ubuntu 8.04
[03:53] <jillian876> trying to id my dvd rom drive
[03:54] <tritium> e75: the driver *is* specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <Makuseru> Hi, I seem to be having a problem with a program. It's too long horizontally to fit on my screen, but when i grab the edge to resize it it only lets me make it even longer, i can't  make it any shorter. Anyone know what would cause this, and how i could fix it?
[03:54] <e75> hmm, well in my xorg.conf its not hardly specifying anything.
[03:54] <Joe_> grumble, why does nvidia-glx-96 not work?
[03:55] <earthmeLon> Okay guys, I am getting really upset.  All of my input fields in FF are typing backwards.  I can't use CTRL+A to select everything and moving the cursor with the arrow keys fails.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  I've restarted FF.  It remedied the problem, but only for a few minutes.  Help will be GREATLY appreciated
[03:55] <miranda_psi> e75: the new ubuntu doesn't put much in there as it uses other methods, but you can put the usual xorg.conf stuff in there and it will work
[03:55] <tritium> Joe_: is that the proper driver for your card?  There are much newer versions.
[03:55]  * tanis143 comes in and flops on a couch
[03:55] <jillian876> gotta get my dvd-rom id'd. anyone know to list id's in terminal?
[03:56] <Joe_> tritium it is, one of my two cards is pretty old (Quadro NVS 280 PCI)
[03:56] <jillian876> so then i can mount it using ntfs-g3
[03:56] <jeeves_Moss> is anyone else having problems with signing into MSN with pidgion?
[03:56] <jillian876> it's still resolving itself, jeeves
[03:56] <jillian876> i checked pidgins IRC
[03:56] <jeeves_Moss> jillian876, I can get it to sign into my g-mail account
[03:57] <jillian876> i can get AIM.
[03:57] <jillian876> some stupid MSN certificate problem is occuring
[03:57] <jillian876> pissing me off actually....
[03:57] <ultratek> can anyone help me with this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036926
[03:57] <jillian876> just like how i can't list all my drives in terminal
[03:57] <Joe_> tritium I had a similiar problem with 8.04 which I fixed by installing the drivers manually... but they all fail to build now
[03:57] <jillian876> and find out my dvd rom
[03:57] <jeeves_Moss> jillian876, so it's not just me?
[03:57] <jillian876> no it's everyone!!
[03:58] <tanis143> OK, quick xchat question: Is there a way to move join and part notices to the server tab?
[03:58] <jeeves_Moss> jillian876, ok, thanks
[03:58] <jillian876> it'll be awhile yet.
[03:58] <jillian876> anyhow...
[03:58]  * tanis143 gets annoyed by those to no end
[03:58] <TheFunkbomb> Weird question... I have a gift certificate to Borders books.  Any good Ubuntu books for a beginner?
[03:58] <jillian876> anyone here know how to list CD-ROMs and DVDROMS IN TERMINAL???
[03:58] <_Cid> jillian876:  use 'ls' :-)
[03:58] <jeeves_Moss> jillian876, check the /media directory
[03:58] <tanis143> Funk, ubuntu for dummies? :)
[03:58] <jillian876> thanks
[03:59] <miranda_psi> jillian876: look in the file /etc/fstab and your dvd drive should be listed in there
[03:59] <TheFunkbomb> tanis143, I never do well with the for dummies books lol
[03:59] <TheFunkbomb> how sad is that?
[03:59] <tanis143> Yeah, me neither, I think they are above my level most of the time
[03:59] <e75> gaah. well the nvidia driver from what ive read shouldnt have any issue with audio and hdmi :(
[03:59] <jillian876> miranda_psi how to do you access /etc/fstab file?
[03:59] <e75> jillian876: any text editor
[03:59] <tritium> e75: so why the sad face?  That's good news.
[03:59] <jillian876> thanks.
[03:59] <_Cid> jillian876:  its a text file, you can cat, vi, less whatever it - it lists all your drives and partitions
[04:00] <Joe_> tritum I get this error in Xorg.0.log: (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
[04:00] <miranda_psi> jillian876: just open it in any text editor
[04:00] <DasE1> dragon1 :trml open ?
[04:00] <tanis143> I did get a beginning ubuntu server admin book thats easy to understand
[04:00] <TheFunkbomb> I will look around and see what they have to offer
[04:00] <e75> tritium: because that means it is something else lol and yeah, i just want this done with.
[04:00] <tanis143> Not that I have read it yet, figured I should master the basics before I work on server stuff
[04:00] <dragon1> DasE1: yes
[04:00] <TheFunkbomb> I'm not exactly sure what I want to do with Ubuntu yet.  Seems kind of a waste just to use it the same way I'd use XP
[04:01] <jillian876> miranda_psi - what is the terminal command to open /etc/fstab in text editor
[04:01] <tanis143> Actually, thats why I switched
[04:01] <e75> ill just pass out my user name and password and first one to ssh in and fix it will get a dolllar
[04:01] <DasE1> dragon1 :sudo apt-get install alsamixer-gui
[04:01] <e75> :D
[04:01] <tanis143> I used to do a lot of gaming, thats why I never made the full switch
[04:01] <miranda_psi> jillian976: vim /etc/fstab
[04:01] <jillian876> thanks
[04:01] <tanis143> But I've gotten bored with games so I decided to do ubuntu for a month with no windows on my pc
[04:01] <TheFunkbomb> the only thing I need XP for is for Yahoo literati.    I play with my ex-girlfriend/fiancee
[04:02] <Tanis143> Ah ok
[04:02] <Tanis143> Wait wait wait
[04:03] <Tanis143> ex-girlfriend/fiancee, so is she your ex-fiancee as well?
[04:03] <TheFunkbomb> yes
[04:03] <Tanis143> Ah ok
[04:03] <tritium> Please stay on topic, guys.
[04:03]  * Tanis143 ducks his head in shame
[04:03] <Tanis143> Sorry
[04:03] <TheFunkbomb> Anyway, sometimes it will load but soon after, it makes FF do a force quit
[04:03] <Tanis143> Weird
[04:03] <TheFunkbomb> so, I have to switch over to XP just to play her
[04:04] <TheFunkbomb> really annoying
[04:04] <Tanis143> Which ubuntu you running, 8.1?
[04:04] <TheFunkbomb> yep, Intrepid
[04:04] <McFrosty> On the Ubuntu Forums how do i list my hardware thats underneath my post?
[04:04] <Tanis143> McFrosty, edit your sig
[04:05] <McFrosty> I put what my Hardware is in my Sig
[04:05] <TheFunkbomb> I even tried installing openJDK with no love