[00:03] <daskreech> adon: how is the DSL connected to the computer?
[00:04] <ilovealcoa> inclement, APERSON: thanks anyways
[00:04] <daskreech> ilovealcoa: what are you trying to find?
[00:06] <ilovealcoa> daskreech: a method to disable the pop-up that appears when the mouse hovers over the kickoff application launcher
[00:06] <daskreech> ilovealcoa: That would disable it for all the widgets ofcourse
[00:07] <ilovealcoa> daskreech: that would be perfect!
[00:13] <ilovealcoa> daskreech: but you don't have a solution either?
[00:13] <daskreech> Moment ;)
[00:13] <daskreech> Phone
[00:37] <oscar__> hey room
[00:38] <oscar__> i need help
[01:30] <twobits>  hey, is there any way to change the default download directory for konqueror? I can't find the option for it
[01:40] <|2-bits|> no?
[01:40] <Fanfare> use kget
[01:41] <|2-bits|> Fanfare: thanks. is there no other way, though?
[01:42] <Fanfare> konqueror saves last used path... kget can be configured more finegrained...
[01:42] <|2-bits|> Ah, I see.
[01:43] <|2-bits|> mine keeps going to ~/documents, though, regardless of whatever I last did
[01:43] <|2-bits|> but i will try with kget
[01:43] <|2-bits|> thanks
[01:43] <Fanfare> have fun
[01:45] <KARMIC_PS3> any one got help for qemu probz
[01:46] <daskreech> KARMIC_PS3: have you asked the question?
[01:47] <KARMIC_PS3> it doesnt do anything after being setup the emulated system never starts
[01:47] <KARMIC_PS3> i've tried about every os
[01:48] <daskreech> how are you starting it?
[01:48] <daskreech>  I can't stay that long but #qemu and ##Linux would likely have information that works just as well
[01:49] <KARMIC_PS3> ive tried thru qemu itself and and thru a frontend. do you mean something aside from that
[01:50] <KARMIC_PS3> and i would be happy to ask my ?'s elsewhere but i have no idea how to find a channel i  need
[01:54] <KARMIC_PS3> how to you search for the apropriate channel or a different channel at all
[01:58] <sdwrage> Hey all
[01:58] <sdwrage> having a bit of a problem with my vm of kubuntu finding packages
[01:59] <sdwrage> even sudo aptitude search apache doesnt find anything
[02:01] <daskreech> KARMIC_PS3: you can use /list to get a listing of all the channels. Your client will dictate how you search
[02:01] <daskreech>  but if you type /join ##linux you should get a good stream of answers
[02:02] <daskreech> sdwrage: Can it see the internet?
[02:02] <sdwrage> daskreech, yep
[02:02] <sdwrage> able to get on the internet just fine
[02:02] <daskreech> sdwrage: and sudo apt-get update works ?
[02:02] <sdwrage> lemme look
[02:03] <sdwrage> daskreech, thx man that fixed it
[02:03] <daskreech> sdwrage: uh huh :)
[02:03] <sdwrage> it must have been because I installed the network adapter to the VMX after I installed to my virtual drive
[02:04] <sdwrage> cool beans
[02:08] <KARMIC_PS3> huh where do i type that at
[02:11] <KARMIC_PS3> where do i type /list or /join at
[02:12] <baddog> the same place you type to talk
[02:13] <baddog> btw, don't type /list here
[02:14] <baddog> /msg alis help
[02:15] <KARMIC_PS3> okay im confused
[02:18] <KARMIC_PS3> i want to go to a different channel
[02:19] <daskreech> KARMIC_PS3: Which channel?
[02:19] <KARMIC_PS3> something for qemu
[02:19] <daskreech> KARMIC_PS3: in the same place you type to enter text for here type /join #qemu
[02:19] <daskreech> you can also type /join ##linux
[02:20] <daskreech> or if the words above are in blue you can click on them
[02:20] <KARMIC_PS3> okay thnx
[02:22] <daskreech> KARMIC_PS3: Ah umm you need a registerd nick for ##linux
[02:22] <daskreech> !register | KARMIC_PS3
[02:22] <daskreech> Though that shouldn't be needed I think
[02:22] <daskreech> KARMIC_PS3: #ubuntu may also be able to help but it's quite difficult to get help there
[02:26] <clamrock> help!  how to clear aptitude's list of pending installations?
[02:27] <daskreech> clamrock: apt-get remove the packages
[02:28] <clamrock> um, there are 1000's of pending installations, it would be tedious to list all of them like that
[02:31] <Fanfare> clamrock: aptitude (without options) , Menu Actions > cancel pending
[02:31] <clamrock> fanfare: great, thanks!!
[02:32] <Fanfare> clamrock: have fun
[02:49] <Fanfare> Q: someone with a dualscreen (twinview) around?
[02:55] <jeepmanmatt> new user to kubuntu
[02:59] <ubuntu> Is there a way to get drive stats from the gui in kubuntu 9.10?
[03:00] <ubuntu> I know I can run df from terminal
[03:00] <ubuntu> but is there a way to do it in the gui?
[03:00] <Fanfare> ubuntu: there is a monitoring widget...
[03:00] <ubuntu> I think I ran that, but didn't notice anything on disk stats
[03:00]  * ubuntu checks again
[03:01] <Fanfare> ubuntu: check again... there are many monitoring widgets for ram cpu lan disk etc
[03:02] <izzyb> k, I'll keep looking then
[03:02] <izzyb> thanks
[03:02] <Fanfare> izzyb: have fun
[03:02] <meowkbuntu> hi all i am wanting to know it i can use ubuntu tweek on kubuntu
[03:02]  * izzyb on a live cd from the install disk so I'll have to wait until the install finishes
[03:03] <Fanfare> what is tweek?
[03:03] <meowkbuntu> ubuntu tweek is a great ap[plication
[03:03] <meowkbuntu> look into it
[03:04] <meowkbuntu> i am not sure if there is kubuntu tweek  thats what i want to know
[03:05] <izzyb> In general you can run anything from ubuntu in kubuntu, its just a matter of having the required libraries installed
[03:05] <meowkbuntu> !tweek
[03:05] <Fanfare> meowkbuntu: well, as i see this, all settings about desktop will not be usefull, as its a gnome/gtk app... but systemsettings might work...
[03:06] <izzyb> ah, yeah, that's not going to be too useful in kde
[03:06] <izzyb> except if you want to switch back and forth between kde/gnome
[03:06] <izzyb> but it would probably still run, just not be all that useful
[03:07] <meowkbuntu> Fanfare: maby there is a kubuntu tweak application then
[03:08] <Fanfare> meowkbuntu: i  dont know kde has systemsettings for desktop stuff...
[03:13] <meowkbuntu> Fanfare: so does ubuntu
[03:13] <meowkbuntu> but ubuntu tweek is like great
[03:22] <Fanfare> Q: someone know a nice kde backup tool?
[03:27] <cjae> I have the tragedy black theme install but my gtk app are a little hard to understand, is there a way to not globally have this theme?
[03:27] <cjae> or just have it a shade lighter?
[03:28]  * cjae eyes get sore with bright screen
[04:00] <Ramblurr> is there a way to setup a samba sahre
[04:00] <Ramblurr> share*
[04:00] <Ramblurr> in kubuntu karmic?
[04:01] <Ramblurr> i.e., share my local files via smb
[04:04] <Ramblurr> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2377/280/1600/filesharing.jpg <-- this dialog doesn't exist in kde4?
[04:14] <Ramblurr> ah, i needed to install kdenetwork-filesharing
[04:31] <ctw_> Hi -- after a recent update my laptop (running Kubuntu Jaunty) no longer connects to the wireless networks. The network manager sees the networks, but when I click on them nothing happens (it doesn't even seem to attempt to connect)
[04:31] <ctw_> does anybody here have any insights on this?
[04:31] <ctw_> the router is fine (I can connect with another computer)
[05:15] <thetuxracer> hello :) ! can anyone help me to automatically mount partitions on boot?
[05:22] <iconmefisto> thetuxracer: still there?
[05:22] <thetuxracer> yes!
[05:23] <iconmefisto> what partitions do you want to mount?
[05:23] <iconmefisto> windows partitions?
[05:23] <thetuxracer> i have a few ntfs partitions,
[05:23] <iconmefisto> can you currently mount them manually?
[05:24] <thetuxracer> yes. the problem is: for every first access, i have to supply the password. ill post a screenie.
[05:24] <thetuxracer> yes, i can access them manually
[05:25] <thetuxracer> http://i47.tinypic.com/10eln68.jpg
[05:27] <iconmefisto> so you have created fstab lines for those partitions?
[05:27] <thetuxracer> umm, i did, but it gave me errors. i basically ddnt know how to put a whitespace character in the mount point
[05:28] <thetuxracer> (/040)
[05:28] <thetuxracer> is what i mean
[05:28] <iconmefisto> ok, the easiest thing to do is remove all the fstab entries for ntfs partitions you created, and install ntfs-config
[05:29] <iconmefisto> ntfs-config will automatically set up fstab with all ntfs partitions
[05:30] <thetuxracer> ok
[05:30] <iconmefisto> or just comment out the ntfs lines in fstab if you prefer
[05:30] <thetuxracer> ill apt-get them
[05:32] <thetuxracer> hmm, yes. ntfs configuration tool setup the fstab for me
[05:32] <thetuxracer> ok, ill reboot and be back in a sec.
[05:32] <iconmefisto> you don't have to reboot
[05:32] <iconmefisto> still there?
[05:40] <thetuxracer> @iconmefisto ok, it worked. though ntfs config tool deosnt make a new directory for u!
[05:40] <iconmefisto> new directory?
[05:41] <iconmefisto> the mount point?
[05:41] <thetuxracer> oh, i meant mount point
[05:41] <thetuxracer> yes! :P
[05:41] <iconmefisto> you could edit fstab to use the mount points you want
[05:41] <thetuxracer> now i have lots of unused folders in /media need to delete them!
[05:42] <thetuxracer> yes, ill copy paste the above entries, and change mount points
[05:42] <iconmefisto> also, sudo mount -a  will "mount all" the partitions in fstab. no need to reboot
[05:44] <thetuxracer> ok
[05:47] <thetuxracer> ok, im all set
[05:47] <thetuxracer> thank for the help, iconmefisto!
[05:47] <iconmefisto> no prob
[06:31] <gehzumteufel> Anyone around?
[06:33] <gehzumteufel> kdeinit:Aborting.$DISPLAY is not set
[06:34] <gehzumteufel> What can I do to fix that?
[06:48] <Trebesan> anyone in the mood to assist a new kubuntu/ubuntu/Linux noob?
[06:49] <kkathman> Can someone tell me why I can't see the text on the RSS NOW widget or the Microblogging widget ?
[06:49] <Trebesan> i"m not completely computer defunct, but i could sure use some help troubleshooting something
[06:49] <kkathman> Trebesan: what kind of probs ?
[06:50] <Trebesan> ive got wifi connection problems
[06:50] <Trebesan> it can establish connection with my router, but the issue after that
[06:50] <Trebesan> is i cant get any pages to load.
[06:50] <kkathman> Trebesan: ahh.... yeah that's a toughie sometimes
[06:50] <kkathman> All of my connections are hardwired :(
[06:50] <Trebesan> it handles hardwired just fine
[06:51] <kkathman> Trebesan: have you done pings to the gateway and perhaps to google.com ?
[06:51] <Trebesan> sec
[06:52] <Trebesan> telling me network unreachable
[06:52] <Trebesan> cant even ping the router
[06:53] <kkathman> Trebesan:  ok well that's a decent start at least
[06:53] <Trebesan> it would just be ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:53] <Trebesan> right?
[06:53] <kkathman> Trebesan:  can you open a terminal session?
[06:54] <Trebesan> im in terminal. how else would i ping? :<
[06:55] <kkathman> Trebesan:  ok.. do an ifconfig and be sure of your gateway
[06:56] <Trebesan> okay, what am i looking for here in iwcnfig?
[06:56] <kkathman> Trebesan:  do you see on the left eth0 ?
[06:57] <Trebesan> eth0 would be the wired adapter correct?
[06:57] <Trebesan> but yes, i see ot
[06:57] <Trebesan> it*
[06:57] <Trebesan> sorry typing over the other keyboard is difficult ;)
[06:57] <kkathman> does it have a inet addr ?
[06:58] <Trebesan> its not currently wired
[06:58] <Trebesan> im on a seperate computer
[06:58] <kkathman> yeah makes sense
[06:58] <kkathman> sorry bout that
[06:58] <kkathman> lol
[06:59] <Trebesan> shall i disconnect this one and run wired and wifi?
[06:59] <Trebesan> would that be beneficial?
[06:59] <kkathman> well, you might try, if possible, to see if the wired connection works
[06:59] <kkathman> if so, that at least rules out a lot of things and basically points to the card
[06:59] <Trebesan> it did earlier
[06:59] <kkathman> ahh ok
[06:59] <kkathman> what kind of card?
[07:00] <Trebesan> WUSB100 Linksys
[07:00] <Trebesan> usb adapter
[07:00] <kkathman> lets see if, by chance ubotu has anything
[07:00] <kkathman> !WUSB100
[07:00] <Trebesan> what is that?
[07:01] <kkathman> I think I saw ubotu quit a bit ago :(
[07:01] <Trebesan> !WUSB100
[07:01] <kkathman> its a bot with information
[07:01] <Trebesan> it show ubottu
[07:01] <Trebesan> shows** is connected
[07:02] <Trebesan> 9.04 didnt even recognize it
[07:02] <kkathman> Trebesan:  ok try going to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=907809
[07:02] <Trebesan> 9.10 does
[07:03] <kkathman> you might need ndiswrapper...but I'm not sure
[07:03] <Trebesan> sec
[07:03] <Trebesan> lemme switch this one to wired
[07:03] <Trebesan> brb
[07:07] <Trebesan> there
[07:07] <kkathman> now can you get out on the wired?
[07:07] <Trebesan> of course
[07:08] <TheAncientGoat> Grr.. After logging out, my screen turns into a bunch of unorganized lines.. I can still roughly make out what is going on, but reading text is hard
[07:08] <TheAncientGoat> What on earth can it be..
[07:08] <TheAncientGoat> I tried changing my refresh rate, that didn't help
[07:09] <kkathman> Trebesan:  ok,,,, so that's definitely the card...the driver I reckon
[07:12] <hobojon> :/
[07:12] <hobojon> aparently i lagged out
[07:13] <kkathman> yeah seems there is alot of issues tonight
[07:15] <hobojon> is kubuntu only able to open one window at a time?
[07:15] <Trebesan2> :<
[07:16] <kkathman> Of course not
[07:16] <kkathman> I have several open right now
[07:16] <Trebesan2> then why is it meinimizing other windows
[07:16] <Trebesan2> when i open another
[07:16] <kkathman> Whoa I dunno !
[07:17] <kkathman> Thats really odd
[07:17] <Trebesan2>  ugh
[07:17] <kkathman> Mine isn't doing that at all...I am having probs with the widgets tho
[07:18] <Trebesan2> i might just go back to a GNOME desktop...
[07:18] <Trebesan2> i got familar with GNOME and this KDE stuff is french to me
[07:19] <kkathman> Trebesan:  try this..
[07:20] <kkathman> Trebesan:  Try backing up your .kde directory and then reboot, letting it build you another one.  Then check out these things
[07:20] <kkathman> That fixed ALOT of issues for me
[07:21] <Trebesan2> im unsure how to do that
[07:22] <Trebesan2> arg im out of beer, and this is just one of those nights that you just so happen to want a case
[07:23] <kkathman> Trebesan:  Iyour need to copy the .kde directory in your user directory
[07:23] <kkathman> to somewhere else
[07:23] <kkathman> then just reboot
[07:23] <kkathman> remove it from the original location
[07:24] <kkathman> it will be in your /home/username directory
[07:30] <markc> how do I format a usb stick to fat32 on karmic?
[07:31] <markc> should I install gparted or something?
[07:31] <Respatix_> how do i get to my souces to edit them in a terminal?
[07:31] <tsimpson> !format
[07:32] <dimko> а по русски тут говорят?
[07:32] <tsimpson> Respatix_: they are located in /etc/apt/sources.list and the .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:32] <tsimpson> !ru | dimko
[07:32] <markc> ah, apt-get sinstall partitionmanager, thank
[07:32] <tsimpson> markc: if you don't mind using the terminal, you can use the mkfs tool
[07:33] <tsimpson> but a GUI partitioner can also do the formatting
[07:33] <markc> tsimpson: sure, but I'd have find and rtfm
[07:33] <markc> gparted brings in unwelcome gnomeish stuff
[07:33] <Trebesan> sigh
[07:34] <tsimpson> markc: partitionmanager is the KDE tool
[07:35] <markc> got it, thanks, how do I start it... kdesu partitionmanager or something?
[07:36] <markc> if I just start it as a user it's saying I won't be able to do much
[07:36] <tsimpson> yeah, but use "kdesudo"
[07:36] <tsimpson> it should also be in the menu somewhere
[07:37] <markc> oh yeah... there t'is, thanks again
[07:37] <Trebesan> great. now when i reboot, it shows the kubuntu load screen then goes blank
[07:38] <Trebesan> it hung earlier. this old machine is such a POD
[07:38] <Trebesan> POS*
[07:43] <markc> tsimpson: too easy, thanks for your help, seems a bit strange partitonmanager isn't already installed and hooked up to some RMB option
[07:51] <cjae> anyone use calibre what is the best pdf conversion on sony reader? besides lrf
[07:54] <naftilos76> Hi, does anybody know an app that uses the soundcard to make specrum analysis measurements or generate signals like sine, triangle etc?
[07:58] <cjae> will installing pwmanager break karmic?
[08:24] <Trebesan> anybody around and want to help me poke at an issue?
[08:25] <Trebesan> anyone have an idea as to why im able to ping google in console... but unable to load it on the browser?
[08:25] <Mamarok> Trebesan: you might be behind a proxy
[08:25] <Trebesan> ...
[08:26] <Trebesan> im connected at home
[08:26] <Trebesan> that wouldnt make sense
[08:26] <Mamarok> then I don't know, sorry
[08:27] <Trebesan> hmm
[08:30] <Trebesan> so no ideas at all?
[08:34] <adon> how do u connect to dsl in 9.10?
[08:42] <Tm_T> good day all
[08:43] <onja_> hello, y a t'il un lien en français
[09:29] <bkiab> does anyone here know anything about xorg.conf editing?
[09:30] <Vroomfondle> best to just ask straight out. If anyone can answer, they will.
[09:31] <bkiab> kk
[09:31] <bkiab> how can i make the r128 driver work? i'm stuck using fbdev which is really, really slow.
[09:32] <Vroomfondle> in theory if it's installed then XOrg should load it automatically, but failing that:
[09:32] <Vroomfondle> http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/r128.4.html
[09:32] <Vroomfondle> check out the example just under "Synopsis"
[09:33] <Vroomfondle> put something like that in your xorg.conf and see what happens
[09:34] <bkiab> ok i have tried most of those options but whenever i try to use r128 x will not start
[09:36] <Vroomfondle> have you checked /var/log/xorg.log.0 for lines beginning with "EE"?
[09:36] <bkiab> yes
[09:36] <bkiab> i talked to one of the xorg devs for a bit, but he didn't seem to know either :(
[09:36] <Vroomfondle> I take it there was nothing useful there then?
[09:36] <bkiab> not really
[09:37] <Vroomfondle> Is this on a laptop? Cos to be honest with such an old card + driver I'd suggest just getting hold of a different graphics card if possible.
[09:37] <bkiab> imac g3
[09:54] <infinite> Hello All
[09:56] <Xinux-al> hello infinite
[09:59] <infinite> I am about to buy a wireless router for my home, the options are Belkin G Wireless router, CISCO(LINKSYS)->WRT54GH, and TP-Link->TL-WR642G routers, can I fiind drivers for any of these wireless routers
[10:01] <Vroomfondle> ...drivers?
[10:01] <Vroomfondle> why would you need a driver for a router?
[10:01] <Xinux-al> i think you don't need driver for router
[10:01] <Vroomfondle> that's not how routers work :)
[10:02] <Vroomfondle> as long as you have a driver for your wifi card, you should be fine
[10:02] <Xinux-al> yes that's true
[10:06] <infinite_> Do you use any drivers for a wireless router to connect to a laptop?
[10:07] <uwe> hallo
[10:07] <Vroomfondle> infinite_: Well, you'll need a driver for the wifi chipset in your laptop
[10:07] <Vroomfondle> but you won't need a driver for the router itself, because the router is not in any way attached to the laptop
[10:07] <Vroomfondle> it'll just communicate with the laptop via wifi.
[10:08] <Vroomfondle> Hi, uwe.
[10:08] <Xinux-al> hi uwe
[10:09] <uwe> jemand der deutsch spricht hier?
[10:09] <Xinux-al> Vroomfondle can you explan me exactell how wireless work
[10:09] <Xinux-al> if you want
[10:10] <Vroomfondle> !german
[10:10] <infinite_> I have Kubuntu 9.10 installed on my laptop. The wireless routers that I listed have a CD for Win Vista and Mac OSX. There is no software for Linux.
[10:10] <Vroomfondle> infinite_: you don't need the software.
[10:10] <Xinux-al> infinite can you give me the name of your router
[10:10] <Vroomfondle> just use the web interface on your router.
[10:11] <Vroomfondle> Xinux-al: what do you want to know, exactly? The wifi card in the PC communicates with the router via radio waves.
[10:12] <infinite_> The routers I saw are Belkin G Wireless Router, CISCO(LINKSYS)->WRT54GH, and TP-Link->TL-WR642G.
[10:12] <infinite_> What is ndsiwrapper?
[10:13] <Xinux-al> you know i have a laptop i have a wifi card included and what can i do to to use wireless (execuse m english)
[10:13] <Xinux-al> inifinite
[10:13] <Vroomfondle> infinite_: it allows you to use Windows network drivers
[10:13] <Xinux-al> yes
[10:14] <Xinux-al> to use windows network on kubunut or ubuntu
[10:15] <Vroomfondle> Xinux-al: usually you just have to click on the network icon in the system tray and add a new wirless network (assuming you have set up a wireless router)
[10:16] <Xinux-al> ok thank you Vroomfondle
[10:16] <infinite_> Wont the wireless transmission be encrypted, how will my laptop access that transmission and decrypt it
[10:22] <infinite_> Does Kubuntu have drivers for the wireless chipset?
[10:24] <Xinux-al> infinite i don't know what you need exactely but try to see this
[10:24] <Xinux-al> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[10:24] <Xinux-al> there is CISCO
[10:59] <infinite_> Hi: I found that you need drivers for the wireless card, and not the router
[11:09] <markc> is it possible to have a unified single fileview across for desktops
[11:09] <markc> folderview*
[11:12] <markc> is it at all possible to have the same folderview on multiple desktops?
[11:13] <Noxo> hii
[11:14] <Noxo> i just have installed kubuntu
[11:14] <Vroomfondle> hi.
[11:14] <Noxo> where can i find the synaptic?
[11:15] <Vroomfondle> K -> Computer -> KPackageKit
[11:15] <Noxo> computer?
[11:16] <Noxo> where?
[11:16] <markc> K button
[11:16] <markc> on the panel down the bottom left corner
[11:17] <Noxo> i have: help favoritss;settings but not computer
[11:17] <markit> hi, I've ubuntu remix 9.10, and want to be able to run also kde that I love, I've installed a kubuntu desktop package and switched to kdm, but after the log and the spash I've  a black screen, just the cursor (or alt+f2 to run a program) working. What could I have missed? I've removed kubuntu-netbook since I would like the "normal" K menu
[11:18] <Noxo> ok markc iv installed it thx
[11:18] <markit> (ah, I've also ppa repository enabled...)
[11:39] <otswim> hello, where can i change the behavior of word-moving in the terminal? i don't want the cursor to stop on dots '.' when doing ctrl+right / ctrl+left
[11:44] <lysandre> #darkcore
[11:45] <lysandre> #darkCore
[11:46] <lysandre> #freebeer
[11:50] <APERSON> The system tray doesn't respect my setting for notification positions, is there a remedy to this?
[12:16] <icons> l
[12:21] <comedit> I have had some kind of crash where my  personal info regarding email (disconnected imap and my desktop is not there anymore the way it used to
[12:21] <comedit> howvere I have a backup
[12:21] <comedit> I thought to restore (application backintime)
[12:21] <comedit> kamail dir
[12:22] <comedit> kmail
[12:22] <comedit> to start with
[12:22] <comedit> in the kmail dir however is a lock
[12:24] <comedit> wait a sec checking stuff
[12:37] <comedit> on the phone sorry
[12:45] <comedit> i restore the dimap folder
[12:45] <comedit> i get errors saying
[12:45] <comedit> The UID cache file for folder 989405213/INBOX/Trash could not be written. There could be a problem with file system permission.
[12:46] <comedit> if I look at the kmail dir I see a file called lock
[12:47] <comedit> knotact is running now
[12:47] <comedit> i shut it down now
[12:49] <comedit> can simply remove this lock file and restart kontact
[12:50] <comedit> or is this to simple thinking
[12:56] <ubuntu> Hello, people. I need help booting my system. I have installed new version of nvidia drivers, and later my kernel was updated from official repository. Somehow this make my system unbootable. Error message was 'X server cannot start. Screens found, but none have usable configuration'. Additional error message stated that there is a mismatch between version of nvidia driver and kernel video API. Later I booted with previous version of kernel
[12:56] <ubuntu>  and added some Launchpad PPA repository with fresh nvidia drivers which I foolishly believed should fix my problem. They make my system totally unbootable instead. I can login into console, but a few moments later system hangs up completely - blank black screen. I am now on Live CD. What could I do if any to revive my system?
[12:59] <RiotingPacifist> ubuntu: the PPA will be for oss drivers, nvidia drivers will not be avalible for the new kernel, just use the old kernel until nvidia drivers are updated
[13:00] <ubuntu> RiotingPacifist: How could I apply this to my old system from the live CD?
[13:00] <ubuntu> RiotingPacifist: If you mean just boot into the old kernel - they are all unbootable.
[13:01] <RiotingPacifist> ubuntu: that is what i meant, if your sure they are all unbootable then i can't be much use other than to suggest you ask for help in #ubuntu and #nvidia
[13:01] <RiotingPacifist> !nvidia | ubuntu
[13:02] <ubuntu> RiotingPacifist: Is there a way to install old ones from the live CD?
[13:03] <RiotingPacifist> your old kernel will still be in your grub menu (unless you erased it), if you want to reinstall from the cd, make sure the cd is in your sources then use something like aptitude or synaptic to install the kernel offered from the cd, apt-cache policy linux may help you find out which one it is
[13:04] <ubuntu> RiotingPacifist: Problem is - my system hangs up even in console login. Is it possible without booting it?
[13:05] <ubuntu> But wait, I didn't try old kernel with 'Safe Mode'. Could this help?
[13:06] <RiotingPacifist> old kernel with safe mode should work, but if it's hanging on console login then i don't know whats wrong
[13:06] <RiotingPacifist> it is possible to use aptitude without booting it, you need to chroot into the actual install then run aptitude inside the chroot
[13:06] <RiotingPacifist> !chroot | ubuntu
[13:07] <ubuntu> I don't know is it 'hanging' or not, but after few seconds after console login cursor hides and there is nothing else but the blank black screen.
[13:07] <RiotingPacifist> ubuntu: sounds like x is trying to start or the kernel is crashing, does your numlock key flash?
[13:08] <ubuntu> I didn't noticed that, probably not.
[13:08] <ubuntu> No, I would have noticed that.
[13:10] <ubuntu> RiotingPacifist: So, what would you advice me except booting in safe mode?
[13:12] <RiotingPacifist> if console logins (alt+prtscr+r then ctrl+alt+f1) are failing then my advice is to look for somebody with better advice than me in #ubuntu or #nvidia, i know the way to install software to a nonworking install is chroot (see link above), but i don't know it well enough to help you. I would check for obvious errors (df ar your disks full, etc) but I don't really no ubuntu well enough to know how to fix your problem
[13:14] <ubuntu> Disk are surely okay. Thank you, I'll seek further help there.
[13:15] <RiotingPacifist> np, just wish i could be of more use, double check disks, far too often ive gone hunting for a bug only to realise i had run out of space on one of my disks and it was causing a non disk full related error
[13:19] <RiotingPacifist> ubuntu: just saw this forum post, it **may** help with the nvidia problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990978 , but i think you have a more serious error
[13:29] <rethus> how does the programm naemd which makes updates (in the tray) ?
[13:30] <rethus> it doesn't appear in the tray
[13:30] <rethus> anymore
[13:30] <rethus> and how can i do autostart firestarter in kde?
[13:33] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: autostart is controlled by the autostart kcm in systemsettings, just type autostart in krunner and pick it
[13:34] <rethus> RiotingPacifist: nothing appear if i type auto in kmenu
[13:34] <rethus> which package i have to install
[13:34] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: no idea what you mean for "how does the programm naemd which makes updates (in the tray) ?"kpackagemanager", does system updates if that is what you mean
[13:34] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: not sure run systemsettings and find the program manually
[13:35] <rethus> i mean the little icon which green if no update there
[13:35] <RiotingPacifist> it's in systemsettings>advanced>usersettings>autostart
[13:36] <RiotingPacifist> i think you mean kpackagemanager, it only shows up when there is work to do, if your up to date there is no icon, you can check its running with pgrep -l package
[13:38] <rethus> thanks
[13:38] <rethus> one question to akonadi
[13:38] <RiotingPacifist> if you must have the icon you can remove kpackagekit and use the gnome program instead, i think it's called update-notifier, it should work in kde without any problems but i don't know
[13:38] <rethus> how can i switch to akonadi... and should i do?
[13:39] <rethus> RiotingPacifist: its enough, if the icon appear if new updates available
[13:39]  * mistrynitesh installed screen-profiles, wondering how to change the current screen profile
[13:40] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: I think akonadi is more for developers, it works behind the scenes so it will start up if any programs need it but if it doesn't start up there is nothing for it to do (and in my experience if it does start up you just open yourself up to problems, for now anyway)
[13:41] <raphink> mistrynitesh: you mean really screen-profiles, or byobu?
[13:42] <paulsomebody> RiotingPacifist: I booted command line and found irc client. It's very nice, you know.
[13:42] <raphink> mistrynitesh: normally, that would be F9 -> Change Byobu's colors
[13:42] <mistrynitesh> raphink: the 'screen-profiles' package...
[13:42] <raphink> mistrynitesh: you should switch to the byobu package
[13:42] <raphink> screen-profiles is a quite old package
[13:42] <paulsomebody> Could anyone tell me where is the sources.list file?
[13:43] <raphink> paulsomebody: in /etc/apt/
[13:43] <mistrynitesh> raphink: but byobu is not in the official repos
[13:43] <paulsomebody> Thank you.
[13:43] <paulsomebody> q
[13:43] <raphink> mistrynitesh: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:43] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: to see if its running pgrep akonadi -l, to get the tray icon which is probably what your after run akonaditray
[13:43] <mistrynitesh> raphink: jaunty
[13:43] <raphink> mistrynitesh: ah, right
[13:43] <raphink> well then, whenever you switch to karmic or lucid (when it's out), you can use byobu instead :-)
[13:44] <raphink> that said, the version is jaunty is old ;-)
[13:45] <mistrynitesh> raphink: thanks... just tried the 'screen-profiles' command and it is giving me some options... I wonder why I didn't try that earlier
[13:46] <raphink> mistrynitesh: when you use screen-profiles, you first have to select a profile, then you just launch "screen"
[13:46] <raphink> once in screen, you use F9 to access the options menu
[13:48] <mistrynitesh> raphink: oh! I see... i have given the command from within the screen... will quit and select the profile first!
[13:49] <raphink> in byobu now, that would be byobu-select-profile
[13:49] <raphink> I don't remember what it was exactly in screen-profiles
[13:49] <raphink> autocompletion should help you with that
[13:49] <raphink> ah there
[13:49] <raphink> mistrynitesh: select-screen-profile
[13:50] <raphink> you type that, choose your profile, then type screen
[13:51] <mistrynitesh> raphink: aha! thanks a ton! will be back after trying this
[13:57] <rethus> how can i add suspend to dist by keyboard-press?
[14:07] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: if you only want suspend to disk you can set that suspend button or the power button to do this in your powerdevil profiles
[14:10] <rethus> powerdevvil?
[14:11] <rethus> before at suse i used powersave
[14:11] <rethus> and sign the keyboard-key to s2disk
[14:11] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: if you wan't to do a better way then find the command that is called when you hibernate (it's probably a dbus call or something) and a shortcut to it using systemsettings>input action>new>global shorcut>dbus command/normal command
[14:12] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: for some reason i think it's called powerdevil, but basically im talking about the battery icon
[14:13] <RiotingPacifist> here i have pm-hibernate, but i think it needs root access to hibernate directly, so something like kdesudo pm-hibernate would work
[14:13] <RiotingPacifist> yeah pm-hibernate may only be run by the root user
[14:14] <rethus> i need a command which rund directly
[14:14] <rethus> click on the button >A> suspend2disk
[14:15] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: i think you can only hibernate through a dbus call, unless you install s2disk, if i disapear it's because ive found the command
[14:17] <rethus> or can i add my username in such way that it have permission to use pm-suspend
[14:18] <RiotingPacifist> rethus: the command is "qdbus org.kde.powerdevil /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement org.freedesktop.PowerManagement.Hibernate"
[14:19] <rethus> if i run this on bash, it would s2disk?
[14:19] <RiotingPacifist> yup, well it just did here
[14:19] <rethus> whats with uswsup?
[14:21] <RiotingPacifist> no idea, it uses the same method as the battery icon, i think it uses pm-utils, which calls, uswsup, but tbh i don't know
[14:50] <APERSON> The system tray doesn't respect my setting for notification positions, is there a remedy to this?
[14:52] <daskreech> APERSON: Which version of KDE?
[14:53] <APERSON> daskreech, 4.3.4
[14:53] <daskreech> What are you doing to set the positions?
[14:54] <APERSON> daskreech, right clicking on the notification icon > system tray settings> and clicking on the screen position I'd like the notifications to show up
[14:55] <daskreech> APERSON: And they ignore it?
[14:56] <APERSON> daskreech, yes, they always appear in the bottom-right corner regardless of where I tell them to go
[14:56] <dinfo> HI ALL
[14:56] <APERSON> !hi > dinfo
[14:56] <APERSON> err, meant to pipe that
[14:57] <genii> Live n learn :)
[14:57] <APERSON> the bot's gone!
[15:04] <daskreech> APERSON: I'm not certain it works like that
[15:05] <APERSON> well, what's the option there for?
[15:06] <APERSON> this window specifically: http://imgur.com/PuxSc
[15:07] <APERSON> well, I'm sorry
[15:07] <APERSON> that's for avantana notifications
[15:08] <APERSON> it works if I set it to those ones, thanks daskreech
[15:08] <daskreech> APERSON: Alright :)
[15:09] <APERSON> now howabout where can I configure the step the volume gets incremented in?
[15:10] <markus_> hy everybody
[15:10] <daskreech> crimsun: Hi Do you know if you can play with the soundcard's volume step?
[15:10] <daskreech> hi markus_
[15:12] <APERSON> I know in gnome it's a gconf setting
[15:13] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[15:14] <daskreech> APERSON: I see KOSD may support that
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:15] <daskreech> hi BluesKaj
[15:15] <BluesKaj> hi daskreech
[15:22] <BlueRay> fgfhhf
[15:23] <BlueRay> how to remake FIREFOX????????????????????????
[15:23] <BlueRay> _fucking_  firefox get down CPU
[15:23] <petsounds> remake?
[15:24] <BlueRay> my cpu work on 99%
[15:24] <BlueRay> refuck
[15:24] <Pici> BlueRay: Please watch your languge here.
[15:24] <BlueRay> delete   and install new
[15:24] <BlueRay> ok
[15:24] <BlueRay> Pici   do not bub me--- i am sorry
[15:25] <BlueRay> HOW TO REINSTALL FIREFOX
[15:25] <BlueRay> REMAKE REBUILD REINSTALL   I do not know how to say
[15:25] <BlueRay> I want new firefox
[15:25] <Vroomfondle> sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox
[15:25] <BlueRay> old is BAD
[15:25] <Vroomfondle> now stop shouting.
[15:26] <Vroomfondle> if you're on Karmic you have Firefox 3.5.x, which is new
[15:26] <BlueRay> In C is fumction  getpgrp ))
[15:26] <BlueRay> OK   I am ready do it
[15:27] <BlueRay> I made it
[15:28] <BlueRay> What dpkg stends for?
[15:28] <BlueRay> I meant abbreveate
[15:29] <Vroomfondle> debian package
[15:29] <BlueRay> ok
[15:31] <markus_> What does this tell me: "CMake Error: your CXX compiler: "CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND" was not found."?
[15:32] <markus_> What do I have to install?
[15:32] <daskreech> markus_: build-essentials
[15:38] <markus_> this worked. thanx a lot!
[15:39] <markus_> Got my first kde4 program running... yeeeeees!
[15:40] <markus_> did this in the commandline. kdevelop says it can't find "#include <KAboutData>". What do I have to set for this to work?
[15:44] <daskreech> markus_: Wheee :)
[15:45] <daskreech> markus_: #kde-devel might be more useful :)
[15:47] <markus_> daskreech: ok. moving there
[16:01] <KoWwu> q
[16:02]  * daskreech yawns
[16:18] <soee> hi
[16:26] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[16:27] <contrast> Anyone have any experience overclocking under Linux? I've kinda hit a brick wall.
[16:29] <Vroomfondle> last thing I knew, overclocking was primarily done in the BIOS...
[16:32] <contrast> Vroomfondle: Right... But I've read from several sources that any OS-related CPU frequency scaling can interfere with OCing, which seems to potentially be related to the problem I'm having. I've already tried turning Powerdevil off completely in Service Manager, seems to have no effect though.
[16:32] <bonjour-910-64> bonjour   , hello , , perdu  !
[16:32] <markit> hi, I've ubuntu remix 9.10, and I've installed kubuntu-desktop and set to use kdm and log as kde, but after login and spalsh screen, I've a black screen and the mouse. Alt+f2 let me run the app I want, but I do't have the desktop! any clue?
[16:33] <markit> I'm using ppa repo
[16:33] <bonjour-910-64> aie aie    pas bon mon anglais    very bad english
[16:33] <petsounds> !fr > bonjour-910-64
[16:34] <petsounds> bonjour-910-64, #ubuntu-fr
[16:34] <bonjour-910-64> au secours !! SOS !!!!
[16:35] <Galvatron> In Kubuntu 9.04 I added "acpi=off" to kernel options in /boot/grub/menu.lst and after reboot the cursor got big lags. Removing "acpi=off" parameter didn't help.
[16:40] <daskreech> contrast: try #phoronix ?
[16:43] <markus_> markit: I would simply install kubuntu directly. Should be easier than to find this bugs?
[16:43] <markit> markus_: yes, it would, but I would loose my data
[16:43] <contrast> daskreech: Already got it, but it isn't much good given I can't seem to get my overclock to stick in Linux. Thanks anyway. : \
[16:43] <contrast> daskreech: Ahh, didn't read that right, thought you were referring to their test suite. I'll head over there, thanks! :)
[16:44] <markit> I've seen that I've no plasma-desktop process running, even if is a package is installed
[16:44] <markit> but really could be a rc1 bug
[16:44] <BluesKaj> markit, what graphics card and driver ?
[16:45] <daskreech> markit: what happens when you run plasma-desktop
[16:45] <markit> it's an acer d250 netbook, works fine with gnome, I think is an intel card. But I've the mouse and if I run a program works fine (alt+f2), so seems that graphic is ok, just desktop is missing
[16:45] <markit> let me check
[16:46] <markit> mm the desktop appeard :) wondering why I have to do manually
[16:46] <shadeslayer> markit: its kinda of a known bugs with certain configs.. i had it beta 2 but not in RC :P
[16:46] <markit> let's try to reboot it, maybe now has got it configured
[16:46] <daskreech> markit: Somepeopel seem to have an issue with KDE starting too quickly for the the Dbus to keep up and plasma dies it seems
[16:47] <markit> I see, hope they will be able to fix for rc2 soon :)
[16:47] <markit> thanks a lot for the tip
[16:47] <shadeslayer> its even on the kubuntu devel ML
[16:48] <shadeslayer> markit: it may be solved by renaming .kde to .kde_old... it sets up new configs and that might resolve the problem.. not a sure shot solution
[16:49] <markit> shadeslayer: I removed kde completely, removed .kde, reinstalled kde-desktop but nothing went better
[16:49] <shadeslayer> markit: did you rename the .kde folder in home?
[16:49] <markit> shadeslayer: I removed it
[16:50] <shadeslayer> markit: ah well then :D
[16:50] <daskreech> markit: That's where you mail and someother data is kept so try renaming it in future
[16:50] <shadeslayer> was worth a try... though theres no known solution..
[16:51] <daskreech> You could delay KDE starting up I guess
[16:51] <markit> mm taskabr seems "doubled", like one over another with a certain offset
[16:51] <shadeslayer> markit: you can put a pre-kde startup script in the autostart item
[16:52] <shadeslayer> the script would just contain one command... plasma-desktop
[16:54] <markit> mm no audio also :(
[16:54] <markit> really making basic things work is a nightmare
[16:55] <shadeslayer> markit: oh thats simple... click on the sound icon in the tray
[16:55] <shadeslayer> markit: thats why we are here :)
[16:55] <markit> lol
[16:55] <markit> I've removed mute
[16:55] <markit> also I've tried to check systemsettings, but "test" button gives no sound
[16:55] <shadeslayer> markit: no click on the mixer
[16:55] <markit> (xine as backend)
[16:55] <markit> done, all channels are up and unmuted
[16:56] <shadeslayer> nice.. ok next step,type : alsamixer in a konsole
[16:57] <markit> as root or regular user?
[16:57] <shadeslayer> markit: then set everything to high there too... regular user
[16:59] <markit> mm speakers was muted, but unmuting it did not changed anything
[16:59] <markit> do I have to reboot something?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> markit: nope
[16:59] <shadeslayer> markit: now try to play something
[17:00] <markit> no sound
[17:01] <shadeslayer> markit: ok,um type : speaker-test : in a konsole.. do you hear static?
[17:02] <markit> I hear nothing
[17:02] <markit> maybe the backend is broken?
[17:02] <shadeslayer> markit: ok,now type : lspci | grep audio
[17:03] <shadeslayer> scrap that
[17:03] <markit> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[17:03] <shadeslayer> oh ok it displays it.. didnt do it here :P
[17:03] <shadeslayer> one sec
[17:03] <markit> (I've added "-i" in grep)
[17:04] <shadeslayer> ah nice :),and google shows loads of slimy bugs
[17:04] <markit> wonderful :(
[17:04] <markit> btw, in gnome works, so should be a kde bug, but alsa does not sound
[17:05] <shadeslayer> oh it works in gnome?
[17:05] <markit> yes
[17:05] <markit> but I use kde on the desktop, kde everywhere, so I installed it in the netbook also :)
[17:05] <markit> if you want, I can try again, maybe a full-upgrade broke the sound in gnome also
[17:05] <shadeslayer> yeah,KDE is everywhere :)
[17:06] <markit> hold on
[17:06] <shadeslayer> markit: um no need
[17:07] <shadeslayer> markit: ok lets try another backend,but that might cause some videos to stop working
[17:08] <contrast> Any overclockers around? I just did my first build last night. Raised the CPU's bus from its default of 333MHz to 366MHz, left the default multiplier alone (x8). CPU clock reads 2.92GHz in BIOS, but upon booting into Linux, it's only clocked at 2.66GHz.
[17:09] <markit> mm knetworkmmanager crashed in loggin out
[17:09] <shadeslayer> contrast: i think #linux would be more appropriate,since the kernel is custom built
[17:09] <shadeslayer> markit: that happens here too
[17:09] <contrast> shadeslayer: Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
[17:09] <shadeslayer> markit: install phonon-backend-gstreamer
[17:10] <markit> I'm booting gnome right now, ok
[17:11] <shadeslayer> markit: ok
[17:11] <daskreech> I dunno I've never had knm crash
[17:11] <markit> ok, in gnome works, so is not a kernel / audio module problem
[17:12] <daskreech> And audio always comes auto muted for some reason but thats easy to fix
[17:12] <shadeslayer> daskreech: well its not muted thats for sure
[17:12] <daskreech> Then again I have a list of bugs I keep finding in corner cases that no one else can replicate
[17:13] <shadeslayer> daskreech: like the facebook plugin not working in 4.4?
[17:14] <shadeslayer> (for kopete)
[17:14] <markit> shadeslayer: do I have to change default backend to gstreamer, I suppose
[17:14] <shadeslayer> markit: yes
[17:15] <daskreech> shadeslayer: Wouldn't know I don't have facebook
[17:15] <shadeslayer> daskreech: ah ok
[17:16] <markit> I was able to hear test music, then tried to change outputdevice and systemsettings "froze", sigh
[17:17] <markit> let me kill it and try play video
[17:17] <shadeslayer> markit: ah thats kinda of a problem in RC... everything freezes up :)
[17:17] <shadeslayer> beta 2 was *much* more stable and smooth
[17:18] <ToxinPowe> I agree
[17:18] <markit> urgh, so a lot of regressions have been introduced
[17:19] <markit> wondering how quality test is done, if I can get so many problems in a fresh install
[17:19] <markit> and not in "strange corner cases"
[17:19] <shadeslayer> markit: yep,beta 2 was more of a RC1 whereas RC1 is... well kinda SVN like :P
[17:19] <markit> ok, login sound is good :)
[17:19] <markit> shadeslayer: thanks a lot for your time and suggestions
[17:20] <shadeslayer> markit: oh no problem.. im always around :)
[17:21] <shadeslayer> markit: btw does it work with the gstreamer backend?
[17:21] <markit> mmm most of the video don't play, I have a still image, with smplayer and movieplayer or whatever
[17:22] <markit> shadeslayer: yes, system sound work with gstreamer backend only
[17:22] <markit> well, let me test reverting back to xine
[17:22] <shadeslayer> markit: hmm well please report a bug with the kde bug tracker
[17:22] <shadeslayer> or at the xine site,if they have a bug tracker
[17:23] <markit> now reverting to xine shows (when I "apply") a message  like "analog channel does not work", but it works
[17:24] <markit> really is not good for regualar use, I will name it "alpha 1"
[17:24] <markit> not rc1
[17:24] <shadeslayer> markit: so xine works now?
[17:24] <markit> yes, seems so
[17:24] <markit> at least with system sounds
[17:24] <shadeslayer> markit: yeah,pity you couldnt try out beta 2 though
[17:24] <markit> let me try video
[17:24] <kubian> kde does not play well with gstreamer
[17:25] <kubian> use phonon
[17:25] <markit> now video "plays", but no sond
[17:25] <markit> kubian: how can I do?
[17:25] <kubian> you should get rid of those gstreamer*
[17:26] <markit> I thought I was using phonon with gstreamer or xine backend
[17:26] <kubian> shud be phonon-backend-xine
[17:26] <kubian> sometimes it helps to reboot if you made changes to sound
[17:27] <Gintulis> how to turn on playlist reapeet in amarok 2.2.2 ?
[17:27] <markit> "the M$ way", lol
[17:27] <shadeslayer> Gintulis: its in the lower right corner in your current playlist
[17:27] <shadeslayer> Gintulis: had to ask in #amarok about 3 weeks earlier
[17:28] <kubian> goto playlist->repeat-> off || track || album || playlist
[17:30] <shadeslayer> kubian: they changed it in 2.2.2
[17:30] <shadeslayer> kubian: theres no repeat->off
[17:30] <kubian> oops..sorry am using 2.2.1
[17:31] <markit> ok, no sound from video, I give up
[17:31] <kubian> let me upgarde real quick
[17:31] <shadeslayer> kubian: Gintulis instead you do : click arrow on track progression->repeat track/playlist/whatever
[17:31] <shadeslayer> markit: hmm,and what about xine?
[17:32] <markit> I'm using xine now
[17:32] <shadeslayer> markit: and sound works?
[17:32] <markit> with gstreamer the image was still
[17:32] <markit> with xine the image "runs", but no sound
[17:32] <markit> let me check a mp3
[17:32] <markit> system sounds work
[17:32] <shadeslayer> markit: ok..
[17:33] <shadeslayer> markit: thats a start :P
[17:35] <Nete> how do you view sys info?
[17:36] <Gintulis> now, i faund it
[17:36] <markit> mm amarok started the first time, now is hanging
[17:37] <markit> ctrl+esc does not show the task manager...
[17:38] <markit> no, neither amarok plays music
[17:39] <markit> really I give up and I will stay with gnome, using kde apps, until 4.4 is released
[17:39] <shadeslayer> markit: well sorry that this didnt work out,RC 1 is pathetic with the regressions
[17:40] <markit> shadeslayer: don't worry, I'm a long time kde lover, I will never give up ;)
[17:40] <shadeslayer> that coupled with virtuoso taking 20pc of my CPU... its frustrating
[17:40] <shadeslayer> markit: nice to hear that :)D
[17:41] <markit> I'm using kvm for virtualization. Btw, a very interesting solution is proxmox distro (debian based)
[17:41] <markit> http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page
[17:41] <shadeslayer> markit: solution for what?
[17:41] <markit> virtualization
[17:41] <shadeslayer> ah..
[17:42] <markit> they have a "bare metal installer", you enter the cd and it installs the distro with web interface for vm management
[17:42] <markit> (it erases the entire HD, be careful :))
[17:43] <shadeslayer> markit: kinda like the chromium OS
[17:54] <medius> Anyone know anything about ecryptfs on kubuntu here?
[17:55] <jonah_> hey guys, i can't configure samba, the error is: Error: "/tmp/ksocket-jonah" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[17:56] <shadeslayer> medius: apart from the fact that it just worked once for me? no :P
[17:56] <jonah_> can anyone please help
[17:56] <shadeslayer> jonah_: did you start it with sudo?
[17:57] <jonah_> shadeslayer: yeah i think i did, but now whatever i do it says it...
[17:57] <shadeslayer> jonah_: did you read the wiki?
[17:57] <jonah_> shadeslayer: surely my home user account should be 1000 and not 0 anyway, cos 0 is root
[17:57] <medius> I add a new user using adduser --encrypt-home <newusername>, When I login as the new user everything works correctly and the private home is mounted automatically.  But when that user logs out I get "fopen: Permission denied" and the private home remains mounted.
[17:58] <jonah_> shadeslayer: what wiki? samba one?
[17:58] <shadeslayer> jonah_: the ubuntu wiki on samba?
[17:58] <jonah_> shadeslayer: i just pressed right click, properties and then pressed to configure sharing. nothing happened. so i ran dolphin in konsole with sudo so i could get an output error
[17:59] <shadeslayer> jonah_: thats the worst thing ;P
[17:59] <shadeslayer> !samba | jonah_
[17:59] <jonah_> shadeslayer: why is it bad?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> jonah_: never use GUI apps with sudo
[17:59] <shadeslayer> !kdesudo
[18:01] <jonah_> shadeslayer: ah ok i'll use kdesudo in future, thanks. but what can i do now to fix this and set up samba?
[18:01] <shadeslayer> jonah_: see the wiki entry!
[18:02] <jonah_> shadeslayer: but the wiki doesn't mention kde or samba setup in system settings, or the option on the right click. so how can i do it through the kde tools provided?
[18:02] <jonah_> shadeslayer: would rebooting help?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> jonah_: um no
[18:04] <shadeslayer> jonah_: http://kubuntuguide.org/Karmic#Samba_File_Sharing
[18:05] <dsaaaa> hello again
[18:05] <dsaaaa> I install phpMyAdmin
[18:05] <dsaaaa> and I can not see  where he is????
[18:06] <dsaaaa> WHERE!!!!!!!!!11
[18:06] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: theres a particular address you need to go to
[18:06] <dsaaaa> apt-get install phpmyadmin -> vuollaa
[18:06] <dsaaaa> shadeslayer ???
[18:06] <dsaaaa> NO
[18:06] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: no,its a web URL which points to /var/www
[18:07] <shadeslayer> and uses apache on the local server for phpmyadmin... one sec
[18:07] <dsaaaa> Yes !   but I can not see my phpmyadmin therer
[18:07] <JulCes> can i install kubuntu on a dynamic disk?
[18:07] <dsaaaa> root@ubuntu:/var/www# ls
[18:07] <dsaaaa> Free_Hosting_Manager_V2.0.2  index.html  joomla
[18:07] <dsaaaa> root@ubuntu:/var/www#
[18:07] <FloodBotK2> dsaaaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: please wait for a sec
[18:08] <dsaaaa> how to find phpmyadmin   that was installed
[18:09] <shadeslayer> !phpmyadmin
[18:09] <dsaaaa> find / phpmyadmin     this request return many many bad strings --- fing - is stuped program!
[18:09] <dsaaaa> ubottu ???  so???   get out if you do not know
[18:09] <llutz> pebkac
[18:10] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: please mind your tone
[18:10] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/55943
[18:11] <dsaaaa> how to shut down    root mode???
[18:11] <markus__> dsaaaa: I had the sam eproblem. Does localhost/phpmyadmin work?
[18:11] <dsaaaa> "sudi -i"
[18:11] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: root mode of what?
[18:11] <dsaaaa> how to exit?
[18:11] <dsaaaa> sudo -i
[18:11] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: try : ctrl+D
[18:11] <dsaaaa> ok
[18:11] <dsaaaa> it is work
[18:11] <JulCes> can i install kubuntu on a dynamic disk?
[18:12] <shadeslayer> JulCes: dynamic disk?
[18:12] <dsaaaa> petr@ubuntu:/var/www2$ sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[18:12] <dsaaaa> BUT where is MY PHPMYADMIN???
[18:12] <JulCes> i bought a laptop with dynamic disk
[18:13] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: its at localhost/phpmyadmin
[18:13] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: do you know what phpmyadmin does?
[18:13] <dsaaaa> Not Found
[18:13] <dsaaaa> The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server.
[18:13] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: www.localhost.com/phpmyadmin
[18:13] <dsaaaa> yes   I showld restart my server
[18:13] <dsaaaa> I thing
[18:14] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: you also need LAMP
[18:15] <dsaaaa> do not find phpmyadmin
[18:15] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: also try :  http://localhost/phpMyAdmin
[18:15] <dsaaaa> one year ago   I install phpmyadmin!!! and it work
[18:15] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: do you have lamp installed?
[18:15] <dsaaaa> The requested URL /phpMyAdmin was not found on this server.
[18:15] <dsaaaa> what is lamp?
[18:15] <shadeslayer> !lamp | dsaaaa
[18:16] <dsaaaa> YES
[18:16] <dsaaaa> and all work
[18:16] <llutz> shadeslayer:  www.localhost.com might not be what you expect
[18:17] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: im sorry but i dont know anything more about phpmyadmin,used it for about 2 hours,which was 3 months back
[18:17] <shadeslayer> llutz: idk the exact address,but its something like that
[18:17] <llutz> just "localhost"
[18:18] <llutz>  www.localhost.com is an existing internet domain
[18:18] <dsaaaa> OK  MANS    say me plkease command     throo which I can find MY DRAMATIC phpmyadmin
[18:19] <dsaaaa> find / phpmyadmin     does not work!!!
[18:19] <shadeslayer> dsaaaa: phpmyadmin is not some piece of CLI,its rather a url
[18:19] <dsaaaa> It return me many   BAD PATHES!!!
[18:19] <llutz> dpkg-S phpmyadmin
[18:19] <dsaaaa> NONONO
[18:19] <shadeslayer> and a daemon if im correc
[18:19] <llutz> dpkg -S phpmyadmin
[18:20] <dsaaaa> ~!!
[18:20] <dsaaaa> yes
[18:20] <dsaaaa> I found!!
[18:20] <dsaaaa> phpmyadmin: /usr/share/phpmyadmin/pmd/scripts/ajax.js
[18:21] <dsaaaa> why not in www???   it is terrable
[18:22] <kilrae> anybody know how to convince my computer that a different monitor is the primary one?
[18:22] <dsaaaa> I should make link to  /usr/share/phpmyadmin/   ?????
[18:22] <genii> dsaaaa: You'd want anyone with access into the webserver to be able to run ajax.js ?
[18:22] <kilrae> intel, KDE 4.4, Karmic
[18:22] <dsaaaa> how do you think   guys
[18:23] <dsaaaa> no   I show you one of founded strings
[18:23] <dsaaaa> It is not metter
[18:24] <genii> dsaaaa: The phpmyadmin install normally makes an apache2 config addition for an alias to where it actually is
[18:24] <genii> eg: so no linking stuff from the web dir should be needed
[18:26] <dsaaaa> when I installoing phpmyadmin   one ask me     And  I select "apache2"
[18:26] <dsaaaa> But I do not remember what ask me installer of phpmyadmin ))
[18:27] <genii> dsaaaa: Did you install phpmyadmin from the package manager of (k)ubuntu or did you download and install it from someplace?
[18:27] <dsaaaa> GUYSpetr@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin/
[18:28] <dsaaaa> OK?   I am clever?
[18:28] <genii> Not really
[18:29] <dsaaaa> I wrotre    "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin"
[18:29] <dsaaaa> when I located in /var/www/
[18:30] <dsaaaa> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   22 2010-01-14 21:27 phpmyadmin -> /usr/share/phpmyadmin/
[18:30] <dsaaaa> link do not work
[18:30]  * genii sips his coffee and thinks about where to begin
[18:31] <dsaaaa> link can not work?
[18:32] <dsaaaa> because permission of server is not enough
[18:32] <markus__> dsaaaa: I solved this by simply downloading phpmyadmin and copied it into /var/www. Then it is exactely as you know it
[18:32] <genii> dsaaaa: When you did the apt-get install of it, the installer already made the changes needed it to be at http://localhost/phpmyadmin         but apache2 usually needs a restart before you can see it there
[18:38] <dsaaaa> how to delete files that I copy now
[18:38] <dsaaaa> all that I copy
[18:40] <daskreech> dsaaaa: Jsut delete them normally
[18:51] <dsaaaa> Guys    You all want to know   what I do????  Why I install all thing ang phpmyadmin???   OK I say you.   I write checkers on php
[18:51] <dsaaaa> I wrote it on clear C    but it is not good
[18:54] <sourcemaker> how can I enabled the kpackagekit update notification?
[18:54] <sourcemaker> it does not work any more...
[18:57] <genii> Some things to think about: copying everything from /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ into /var/www is not a solution. Anyone able to browse the root of your webserver can see then all the actual subdirs and files there, possibly exploit them, etc. Also updates to myphpadmin will not get applied, only to where the package manager put them originally. so if you delete where they originally put them you will in addition get package manager errors later which just
[18:57] <genii>  compounds the issue. The best thing is not to have any subdirs or symlinks in /var/www but to let the installer edit the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default with it's httpd.conf file so that it has the right Alias /phpmyadmin/ "/usr/share/phpmyadmin/" entry and restart apache2
[18:58] <FloodBotK2> genii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58]  * genii sips
[19:00] <DerHorst> Another good thing might be if you rename phpmyadmin
[19:00] <DerHorst> when your server should be available to the web
[19:01] <DerHorst> there are at least a few subjects who try to get access to the blah.com/phpmyadmin or /pma or a few things
[19:01] <dsaaaa> yes ))    I know...   because now password is clear...
[19:03] <dsaaaa> " let the installer edit the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default with it's httpd.conf file so that it has the right Alias /phpmyadmin/ "/usr/share/phpmyadmin/" entry and restart apache2"   -    yes    you are right
[19:10] <dsaaaa> Warning: include(/etc/phpmyadmin/config.header.inc.php) [function.include]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/config.header.inc.php on line 6
[19:11] <gehzumteufel> Hopefully someone can help me with this. I ran some quick updates yesterday, and now KDE won't start. If I try to start it from command line, it gives me $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server. I run the startx command, and it gives me errors with the NVIDIA driver. "Failed to initialise the NVIDIA kernel module
[19:11] <frodoleggins> hi all, is there an application to do screencast written with qt?
[19:11] <gehzumteufel> Any ideas on how I can fix this without x?
[19:12] <dsaaaa> gehzumteufel   I have not ideas
[19:12] <gehzumteufel> Yeah me either
[19:12] <dsaaaa> get beer and drink
[19:12] <gehzumteufel> LOL
[19:12] <gehzumteufel> I have beer here at the office
[19:12] <gehzumteufel> And some whiskey too
[19:13] <gehzumteufel> ah I just figured it out
[19:13] <frodoleggins> no one knows?
[19:13] <gehzumteufel> NVIDIA driver issue
[19:14] <dsaaaa> frodoleggins   I tryed to write checkers on QT!!!  and it is bad documentation!!
[19:14] <dsaaaa> I love not QT!!!!!!!
[19:15] <gehzumteufel> Skype does screencasting
[19:16] <gehzumteufel> How do I remove an incorrect kernel module and replace it with the correct one...without x?
[19:16] <Vroomfondle> rmmod and insmod
[19:16] <Vroomfondle> and lsmod to list modules if you need it
[19:17] <gehzumteufel> well basically the NVIDIA driver module somehow got reverted to an old driver
[19:20] <genii> Vroomfondle: modprobe -r and modprobe is more prudent, has sub-module dependecy checking/removing
[19:20] <genii> (than insmod/rmmod )
[19:23] <gehzumteufel> How do I run .run packages?
[19:23] <gehzumteufel> I basically have to reinstall the NVIDIA driver
[19:24] <kriss3d_> hmm nautillus cant connect to windows shares ??
[19:24] <genii> gehzumteufel: make sure it's executable with: sudo chmod +x whatever.run       then: ./whatever.run            (usually. Some of then need command line arguments added depending on what it does)
[19:25] <gehzumteufel> hmm it is the NVIDA driver
[19:28] <genii> gehzumteufel: Probably use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual as a guide
[19:30] <gehzumteufel> I just got it. It is an sh file
[19:30] <gehzumteufel> Just ran sh NVIDIAblahblahblah and it is installing
[19:31] <gehzumteufel> Installed a newer driver than I had before too. w00t fixed
[19:46] <Roasted_> whats up guyus
[19:49] <markus__> genii: All this security stuff is totally not needed if you develop on your local machine behind a router. On a webserver visible from the outside there should not be a phpmyadmin at all. So to make things working as fast as possible is to copy the phpmyadmin files directly in the webspace. imho.
[19:50] <DerHorst> when coping is okay, a symlink should work too
[19:51] <genii> Since the installer automatically makes an alias to it why should it be neccesary, unless you are downloading the myphpadmin from it's source location or something
[20:07] <Dekkz> Hello.. i have a problem... just got my new computer.. got 2x750gb SATA disks which i use in raid 0... then i installed windows 7... then i installed Kubuntu.. no problem so far... but when i rebooted the computer nothing happened.. just straight into windows 7... any ideas what to do? seems like grub didnt install at the raid
[20:12] <Dekkz> Hello.. i have a problem... just got my new computer.. got 2x750gb SATA disks which i use in raid 0... then i installed windows 7... then i installed Kubuntu.. no problem so far... but when i rebooted the computer nothing happened.. just straight into windows 7... any ideas what to do? seems like grub didnt install at the raid
[20:14] <werfact> Dekkz: seems like you didnt even used raid for installation, only single drive
[20:15] <Dekkz> hmm... well... in the installation i choose to install ubuntu on the raid partition
[20:15] <rapid_> guten abend. ist es hier erlaubt auch auf deutsch zu schreiben'? mein englisch ist grausam...
[20:16] <werfact> Dekkz: yeah, but that was a ntfs raid partition?
[20:16] <genii> !de | rapid_
[20:16] <Dekkz> no... ext3 partition..
[20:17] <genii> Dekkz: Was this from Wubi or from booting the install cd?
[20:17] <rapid_> ok , thank you for the information
[20:17] <Dekkz> the live cd
[20:17] <genii> (wubi has lots of issues with raid0)
[20:18] <werfact> Dekkz: if you used ext3 raid, windows wouldnt be on there anymore
[20:18] <rapid_> #kubuntu-de
[20:18] <Dekkz> even if i installed it on another partition?
[20:19] <werfact> Dekkz: press shift right when grub loads and see if you have a menu for ubuntu
[20:19] <Dekkz> i dont even have grub there?
[20:20] <werfact> Dekkz: how is the raid laid out, partition layout?
[20:21] <Dekkz> 2x750gb SATA disks in raid 0.. 100 mb sucky win 7 partition, 150 gb win 7 partition, 150 gb logical with a 16gb swap and 134 gb ext 3 partition, 300 gb ntfs partition and 800 gb ntfs partition
[20:24] <werfact> Dekkz: yeah, i think you have to boot from the / or boot partition if you made it, not the windows partition,
[20:24] <werfact> Dekkz: but with raid im not sure how you going to do that
[20:24] <werfact> does the raid have option to choose which part to boot?
[20:25] <Dekkz> nope :S not what i have seen.... but shoudlnt there be a mbr also?
[20:27] <werfact> mbr is on the harddrive, it wont matter as you have a raid
[20:27] <werfact> is the raid built in motherboard?
[20:28] <genii> I don't think it's possible to install to the mbr of something like /dev/md0  or so
[20:29] <werfact> Dekkz: go to your raid menu where you create raid partitions, and see if you can pick from which partition to boot
[20:52] <Renovatio> hi all, i've got a problema with my pc. with lshw it recognize my cd-rom device but if i put a cd in my device it always tell me "status=no-disc"...which can be the problem?
[20:55] <genii> Renovatio: What kind of cd? Blank CD-R/CD+R, audio cd, driver install cd, etc ..?
[20:57] <Renovatio> genii, it seems to be with no cd in every cases...now i putted an audio cd but with empty cd or dvds it's the same!
[21:09] <genii> Renovatio: Apologies on lag, work required me. Is there some line in your /etc/fstab which has /dev/sr0  in it?
[21:10] <genii> (or scd0)
[21:12] <genii> Carnage\: Please fix your default username to something which someone does not already have
[21:15] <Renovatio> genii, don't worry for lag: wirk first of all...anyways i have this "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0", do you talk about this?
[21:17] <|2-bits|> is there anyway quick and easy way to address the plethora of missing file associations in firefox
[21:17] <genii> Renovatio: Yes. that looks correct
[21:18] <|2-bits|> going through and adding them to firefox manually looks painful
[21:19] <genii> Renovatio: Internal CD drive or external?
[21:19] <Renovatio> genii, internal
[21:20] <genii> Renovatio: After you put in a disc, does: dmesg | tail                report io errors or so?
[21:21] <genii> Work calls again :/
[21:25] <Renovatio> genii, i'll wait you here :)   dmesg | tail   don't report me this: http://pastebin.com/d6be95d72
[21:31] <genii> Renovatio: Hm. What reports output from: groups     (with no sudo in front)
[21:32] <Renovatio> genii nico adm dialout cdrom plugdev fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[21:39] <teage> is there a way to install guest additions for linux?
[21:41] <teage> I am running vb with a linux distro and want to install guest additions much the way you would if it where windows.
[21:41] <teage> is that possible?
[21:44] <soee> need quick explanation, whats a mpd server ?
[22:00] <werfact> teatime: yeah u can install
[22:00] <chx> hi. the capslock led and the capslock state are out of sync. that's annoying. how can i switch off the led :) ?  Check what the xmod key is for it
[22:02] <daskreech> I thought we killed most of those
[22:02] <chx> xmodmap?
[22:03] <chx> lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
[22:03] <chx> what am i to do with it?
[22:14] <mauri> i've download .tar.bz2 package source. Is there a command able to see which are his dependences requested?
[22:16] <daskreech> chx: it should have one to toggle so if possible swap them
[22:16] <daskreech> mauri: sudo apt-get build-dep package name
[22:17] <mauri> daskreech: which sould be "package name"?
[22:18] <daskreech> mauri: Whatever is the name of the application/lib/module you are trying to build
[22:19] <mauri> daskreech: i've build vlc-1.0.4.tar.bz2
[22:19] <mauri> daskreech: sudo apt-get build-dep vlc-1.0.4.tar.bz2  ?
[22:19] <daskreech> just vlc
[22:23] <mauri> daskreech: uhmm... I if use only vlc.... the result shows the dipendence of the package contained in the repository
[22:24] <daskreech> mauri: should be very close
[22:24] <daskreech> if not exactly the same
[22:25] <mauri> daskreech: unfortunately no
[22:25] <daskreech> wildly different?
[22:25] <mauri> daskreech: http://wiki.videolan.org/Contrib_Status  vould be ?
[22:29] <alessandro> ciao
[22:29] <mauri> alessandro: ciao
[22:33] <mauri> daskreech: are you still there
[22:34] <daskreech> mauri: Somewhat :)
[22:34] <daskreech> mauri: I've seen the web page
[22:34] <mauri> daskreech: question: i've run sudo apt-get build-dep vlc
[22:35] <daskreech> right
[22:35] <mauri> daskreech: and a lot of package (.dev) are requested
[22:35] <svnt> Some one live in USA?
[22:35] <mauri> daskreech: it is strange because i've compiled it and it work without the package shown by apt-get build
[22:36] <daskreech> mauri: That's right
[22:36] <mauri> daskreech: sorry...why?
[22:36] <daskreech> mauri: It will get all recommendations as well as requireds
[22:36] <daskreech> so vlc only requires a few things but to get all the bells it will recommend quite a number more
[22:37] <daskreech> the build-dep gets all the functionalilty that it can so you will see more
[22:37] <mauri> daskreech: there is no way to kow only the package streactly requested by the package iìve just compiled and made .deb
[22:40] <daskreech> mauri: i'm sorry I don't understand that?
[22:40] <mauri> daskreech: sorry my english is not too good
[22:40] <mauri> daskreech: i try to explain what iìve done
[22:41] <mauri> daskreech: i compiled source package installing the lib requested by ./configure
[22:41] <mauri> daskreech: and at the end iìve build a .deb file using checkinstall
[22:42] <daskreech> mauri: right
[22:43] <mauri> daskreech: now, checkinstall does not resolve the dependences? and so i would like to know which are the necessary package to use that .deb file. A lot of packages i've install were only for complilin i supposed
[22:44] <daskreech> which depends is it asking for?
[22:44] <daskreech> mauri: Right
[22:45] <Renovatio> genii, i live in italy and here it's going to be very late so i cannot wait for you again...thank you for all and good work ;-)
[22:46] <phoenixz> Is there anything known about the Intel driver in Kubuntu 9.10? The actual drivers (the default "new" one and the fall back) are both HORRIBLE.. the new one causes me having to wait 30 seconds to see the 30 characters I just typed.. The fallback is still slow as hell, though now I "only" have to wait 5 seconds.. but with this one, suspend hangs my machine and every now and then, at random, the screen blanks and never comes back forcing me to restart the
[22:46] <phoenixz> machine..
[22:47] <phoenixz> In other words, current intel drivers suck balls, pardon my French
[22:47] <mauri> daskreech: the problem is not what is asking (i made a text list by myself) but the problem is what was already installed on the machine......
[22:47] <phoenixz> Is there any news on a new Intel driver that actually ... eh.. just works?
[22:47] <daskreech> mauri: ah umm ok what's installed?
[22:47] <daskreech> how are you installing your package btw?
[22:49] <mauri> daskreech: the .deb is installed bu kpackagekit..... but if start from a clean system and instal it... i think that samething will be missing... is it true?
[22:50] <daskreech> mauri: if you built it against the packages (karmic ) and you are installing a new system with the same depends (another karmic) then no
[22:50] <daskreech> It will install the same way
[22:50] <daskreech> the things you installed by build-dep are for compiling only
[22:52] <mauri> daskreech: ok and so which are the ones to allow vlc working?
[22:53] <mauri> daskreech: sorry for my stupid questions
[22:54] <daskreech> mauri: the same as the ones you need for vlc
[22:55] <mauri> daskreech: sudo apt-get show vlc?
[22:56] <daskreech> mauri: Right
[22:56] <mauri> daskreech: sorry  suso apt-cache show vlc?^
[22:56] <daskreech> mauri: No need for sudo
[22:56] <daskreech> apt-cache show vlc will work fine
[22:56] <daskreech> you aren't making any changes to anything so no sudo
[22:58] <mauri> daskreech: for istance, apt-cache show vlc-nox but i'venot installed it and the compiled package woorks
[22:59] <daskreech> mauri: Nox is recommended
[22:59] <daskreech> not needed for VLC but it will install without it
[23:00] <daskreech> build-dep is more extensive because once you've built the package then installing vlc-nox won't make a difference because when you compiled it it didn't know about vlc-nox
[23:00] <daskreech> so when you compile it tries to get every possible scenario
[23:00] <daskreech> then when you install it only uses what MUST be there for it to work
[23:01] <daskreech> if you want to install more things then that's fine since when you compiled you told it "Oh if you see vlc-nox then do this if there is no vlc-nox then just ignore that and go on playing"
[23:01] <daskreech> mauri: Does that make sense?
[23:03] <mauri> daskreech: http://pastebin.com/d4ac51c66     it seems not reccomend
[23:04] <daskreech> mauri: ha that's the package that you compiled ?
[23:04] <mauri> daskreech: it is the result of apt-cache show vlc
[23:05] <daskreech> mauri: Right you installed your package already?
[23:05] <mauri> daskreech: yes using checkinstall
[23:06] <daskreech> mauri: Right. that's your package you are looking at
[23:06] <mauri> daskreech: i repeat... for istance vlx-now is not installed at the moment on my pc even if it is requested
[23:07] <mauri> daskreech: too difficult write in english wha i have in my mind
[23:22] <Empty_foo> silly question perhaps, if you are in term7 n=0 and you hit crtl alt F7, why doesn't gui restart/refresh ?
[23:23] <daskreech> Empty_foo: cause you are already in term 7?
[23:23] <daskreech> why would it?
[23:23] <Empty_foo> why wouldn't it?
[23:23] <daskreech> Because you are already in Term 7
[23:24] <Empty_foo> right
[23:24] <Empty_foo> but why the different behaviour?
[23:24] <daskreech> it doesn't refresh any of the other terms if you are  there and press the button to go there
[23:24] <daskreech> why should term 7 be any different ?
[23:25] <Empty_foo> if I'm on 7 and i go to 3 then it starts/refreshes 3 .. if I'm on 7 and I go to 7 why doesn't it do the same thing?
[23:25] <Empty_foo> like i said.. silly question.
[23:26] <daskreech> Empty_foo: If you are on 3 and go to 3 does it refresh it?
[23:26] <Empty_foo> and that's exactly what i'm talking about!!!
[23:27] <Empty_foo> why doesn't it?
[23:28] <Empty_foo> ok, saner question... haha..
[23:28] <daskreech> Empty_foo: because you are already on three :)
[23:29] <Empty_foo> how can I stop the pop-up bubbles on the toolbar (or what ever it's called) from occurring.. looked around and i think I've turned off all desktop effects
[23:29] <daskreech> It's like someone calling you on the phone and asking you to go to your office. If you are already there you say "Ok" and hang up
[23:29] <daskreech> you don't walk outside and knock on the door and go back in
[23:29] <daskreech> Empty_foo: the toolbar?
[23:29] <daskreech> you mean the tooltips?
[23:30] <Empty_foo> hang on one sec
[23:31] <Nete> hello, trigger not displaying correctly.
[23:31] <soee> daskreech: i thnik he means the ones popping out when u hover some icon etc, was searching the same and couldnt find how to edit or turn it off
[23:32] <daskreech> The toolbar or the taskbar?
[23:33] <Empty_foo> soee: yup those ones
[23:38] <Nete> Can you run trigger non-fullscreen?
[23:38] <Empty_foo> Nete: not sure what you mean by that.
[23:41] <Nete> the racing game trigger always starts fullscreen. It doesn't display correctly. I have intel graphics
[23:42] <Empty_foo> Nete: ahh ok.. which racing game?
[23:45] <Fanfare> Nete: check its config and set it to windowed (and your resolution to simulate fullscreen)


[17:11] <Pendulum> maco: fregl, can one of you do a write up on Kubuntu a11y plans for Precise that can go on the Ubuntu A11y team blog? (or find someone else who can write it?)
[17:13] <maco> Pendulum: i think "make it stop exploding" is the gist of it
[17:13] <Pendulum> maco: yes, but I'd like to do something for the blog :P
[17:14] <Pendulum> jono is going to do a general a11y plans post, but I'm going to aim to get specific blog posts out about the plans broken down the way we broke down the blueprints out on our blog as well (so one for Kubuntu, one for testing, one for devel, and one for community)
[17:14] <maco> other than that, i think we kinda are stuck for a qt version of orca
[17:15] <joanie> Orca will have a qt-based ui before too long for what it's worth
[17:15] <maco> joanie: yeah i know its on the roadmap, i just dont know if itll be ready for precise
[17:16] <maco> we cant fit gtk on the cd to ship orca :-/
[17:16] <joanie> depends on when I get a chance to focus on it
[17:16] <joanie> maco who are you? I'm Orca project lead :)
[17:16] <joanie> I might could be persuaded to do the work sooner ;)
[17:17] <maco> oh shiny that
[17:17] <maco> i'm a worry-wart :P (oh no i turned into mum)
[17:18] <maco> joanie: if there's a qt version of orca, i'm the person who'll be trying to figure out how to make the installer set it up to run by default if used during install (and also getting the installer to offer it for use during install)
[17:19] <fregl> maco: I would not see it as drastically - make orca play nice is already a good goal
[17:19] <fregl> maco: the bigger problem is that plasma won't be able to use it any time soon
[17:19] <maco> ugh yeah.... :-/
[17:19] <joanie> +1 to that goal fregl
[17:19] <joanie> where are we with that anyway?
[17:19] <fregl> Pendulum: I won't really get around to writing it
[17:20] <maco> i think kde still explodes when a11y is turne don
[17:20] <joanie> I've started installing KDE on all my systems but I've not yet had a chance to look at Orca with it
[17:20] <fregl> joanie: I run my apps with qt a11y just fine. very seldom something crashes. now finetuning and corner cases are needed.
[17:21] <fregl> joanie: only with qt 4.8, most distros ship 4.7 which is useless
[17:21] <joanie> fregl I think F16 is 4.8
[17:21]  * joanie looks
[17:21] <maco> fregl: were things only exploading with the bridge, but working with kaccessible?
[17:21] <fregl> ah, nice
[17:21] <maco> (i dont remember explosions when i tested kaccessible on natty)
[17:21] <fregl> maco: I think yes
[17:22] <fregl> maco: good point, I keep forgetting about kaccessible
[17:22] <joanie> fregl: confirmed. I have qt 4.8
[17:22] <maco> last cycle, i got kaccessible into the default kubuntu install
[17:22] <maco> but didnt get it hooked into the installer
[17:23] <maco> and then it was all "bridge bridge no more kaccessible" and then it didnt seem worth doing...and then things exploded...
[17:23] <fregl> joanie: wow, I should test fedora - building the stuff is easy - so I'll need to find someone to create a package
[17:23] <joanie> fregl: so then it is indeed worth it for me to prioritize making a Qt gui for Orca?
[17:24] <fregl> joanie: according to kubuntu folks yes
[17:24] <joanie> suhweet! :)
[17:24] <maco> in kubuntu we can either ship kaccessible or a qt version of orca. we dont have space for gtk. trouble with kaccessible is that if the user installs any gtk app later....they get squat
[17:25] <maco> regardless of which is chosen to be shipped, as fregl says, plasma is still sadface so im not really sure how the user will launch applications...but im sure some workaround can be found
[17:27] <fregl> yes, plasma it's either a) very hackish solution but I don't have time or b) properly done by adding graphicsview support which would require more time even
[17:27] <joanie> what's the story with plasma?
[17:28] <fregl> joanie: it's based on the graphicsview framework which we don't really have in scope to get accessible - the successor is qml/qt quick which will be. plasma will move. but not any time soon.
[17:28] <joanie> ah
[17:37] <maco> fregl: i wonder if itd be possible to port krunner to qml/qt-quick so that there's a way to launch things
[17:37] <fregl> maco: krunner uses a line edit - that should just work TM
[17:38] <fregl> I should try some time...
[17:40] <fregl> hm, it's not as easy as changing ld library path, this will have to wait :(
[17:40] <maco> uses a line edit?
[17:41] <maco> im confused
[17:42] <fregl> oh, maybe it is
[17:42] <fregl> ok, krunner works
[17:43] <fregl> at least the text entry which is the most important thing I guess... maybe
[17:43] <fregl> argh, but the list below
[17:44] <fregl> maco: well, the line edit in krunner is working fine, the list below is not... I guess that's not good enough
[20:12] <jono> Pendulum, do you have that content yet?