[15:00] <net2014> Pici, what happens if I lock the password of root? and what happens if I don't and just let it have the password I gave it previously?
[15:00] <net2014> Pici, and what locking the root password means?
[15:01] <UbbyStuff12> sudo -s is more useful
[15:01] <Pici> net2014: Things *may* be fine, but the fact of the matter is that Ubuntu was developed with the idea that you should be using sudo, so there may be cases where things don't work the way that they're supposed to.  Locking the password means the hash that the password checks against is replaced with something that can't actually occur in the hash, so no password will ever match it.
[15:02] <net2014> Pici, so, with locking, nobody will be able to log in as root then?
[15:03] <Pici> net2014: no one will be able to login to root directly.  You can still use sudo -s/-i to masquerade as root.
[15:04] <net2014> Pici, I see. so, basically, I was never supposed to be able to log in as root directly? or changing its password? And locking basically will fix these problems?
[15:04] <OerHeks> net2014, easy to undo
[15:05] <OerHeks> sudo passwd -dl root # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[15:05] <net2014> OerHeks, ok, but what about the password that I set to root?
[15:05] <k1l> net2014: "just give root a password and be like a real linux user" is a bad advice a lot of non-ubuntu guys will tell while they not know what ubuntu and sudo is about
[15:06] <OerHeks> that comand deltes it, and reverses to the original system, 1st user created has sudo priv
[15:07] <k1l> net2014: see the website link and command from OerHeks. you can undo that root password and things will be fine again
[15:07] <OerHeks> if you want more users to use sudo, add them to sudoers, also described there
[15:07] <k1l> if you want other users to use sudo add them to the sudo group
[15:08] <net2014> OerHeks, but I bought this computer, I don't know who the first user with sudo privileges was
[15:08] <net2014> what if the 1st user is not my user?
[15:08] <k1l> net2014: log in as your user and do "groups" in terminal. if there is a sudo group its fine
[15:08] <OerHeks> net2014, time to do a fresh install, to be sure. it is not that hard, and takes less than a hour
[15:09] <Pici> Thats a bit extreme
[15:10] <net2014> what about the other solution? locking the password of root?
[15:10] <ballmer> if you buy a used pc, using it without a fresh install is risky
[15:10] <net2014> it's not used, it's new
[15:10] <net2014> I don't know why there is a root use
[15:10] <net2014> r
[15:10] <k1l> net2014: did you read what i wrote?
[15:10] <ballmer> then who would been the 1st user other than you?
[15:11] <OerHeks> net2014, heh. you started with "<net2014> I added password to root, but when I am a user..."
[15:13] <net2014> kill yes, I did, there is a sudo group, so disabling the root user, would be safe?
[15:13] <net2014> ballmer, what if they created more users first and then deleted them?
[15:13] <k1l> yes. since you can use sudo if you need root powers
[15:14] <net2014> but do I actually have a root user? ubuntu has a user accounts panel in settings in gui, and there isn't a root user
[15:14] <k1l> net2014: ubuntu doesnt use the root user.
[15:15] <k1l> net2014: that is what sudo is all about.
[15:15] <k1l> !sudo | net2014
[15:15] <ballmer> net2014, who? the factory?
[15:15] <net2014> ballmer, it's not actually some well know brand
[15:16] <ballmer> net2014: i'd reinstall if it's some small company and they have put other users in. too much weirdness.
[15:16] <ballmer> i don't trust lenovo or dell either based on their shady track records
[15:17] <net2014> what about that locking solution? to lock the password of root?
[15:17] <k1l> net2014: i think we answered that now several times: lock the root password back again. dont use the root account, use sudo when you need root powers.
[15:17] <ballmer> if they've got something bad installed and had physical access to the machine its impossible to get rid of it.
[15:18] <k1l> but dont use root powers everytime. that will spoil the setup once again.
[15:18] <ballmer> you'd have to format and reinstall
[15:19] <loveheartjoylove> I plugged my phone into my USB3 port, data transfer rate is < 220KB/s. What do I do? This is torcher. It's a N5.
[15:20] <k1l> net2014: please read the message from the bot to get a clue what the concept of sudo is.
[15:21] <ravegen> Good day. Does ubuntu have active directory domain service like of windows server ?
[15:21] <loveheartjoylove> I still pronounce sudo "soo doe," it'd been a few years of having only seen that word written Then someone told me what it meant
[15:22] <ballmer> ravegen, https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2008.12.linux.aspx
[15:22] <ballmer> ravegen, also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[15:22] <DirtyCajun> loveheartjoylove: i know exactly what it stands for and i still say soo doe
[15:22] <DirtyCajun> well.. suu doe
[15:22] <net2014> well, Pici said do sudo passwd -l, OerHeks says do sudo passwd -dl root, aren't these different? on locks the password, the other one disables root?
[15:23] <gabmus> hey people. I'm having some problems with ssh: I want to connect to my remote vps running 15.10 using my rsa public key. it has already worked for both my laptop and my phone, but for some reason its not working on my desktop pc. all three rsa keysare stored in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[15:23] <net2014> kil thanks, I got that
[15:24] <gabmus> the clients are respectively: laptop->arch, phone->android/connectbot, desktop->arch
[15:24] <macsurf> hello it is possible cross-compile older version kernel on new Ubuntu, because I have all the time error messages or compiler-gcc5.h missing ?
[15:25] <daum_> hey guys this is weird, so i can't ping google.com but if i do host google.com or host -v google.com it shows up fine.  My /etc/resolv.conf is nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:26] <narcos> Hi all. I'm trying to get the browser to start when a user logs in. I'm using matchbox window manager, and chromium. In my ~/.xsession I have:   chromium-browser & \n exec matchbox-window-manager  -use_titlebar no
[15:26] <ikonia> daum_: why have you got that in your resolv.conf
[15:26] <narcos> When I login no browser, (and the title bar for the WM still appears), but if I check with ps the browser is running
[15:26] <daum_> ikonia, its a static ip
[15:26] <ikonia> daum_: ubuntu uses dnsmasq so you shouldn't be editing the resolv.conf
[15:26] <ikonia> daum_: not sure what a static IP has to do with it ?
[15:27] <daum_> ikonia, it looks like all my servers that have static ips have it there
[15:27] <ikonia> is this an ubuntu server install ?
[15:27] <daum_> yes
[15:28] <ikonia> so what happens if you do "ping google.com"
[15:28] <daum_> unknown host
[15:28] <daum_> but if i do host google.com it finds it fine
[15:28] <ikonia> what is in your nsswitch.conf
[15:29] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/A3kJweMz
[15:29] <net2014> revert
[15:29] <net2014> sorry, mistake ^
[15:29] <ikonia> is there an entry in the host file ?
[15:29] <daum_> ikonia, for what?
[15:29] <burdickjp> I'm having trouble getting apt-get to work on an ubuntu server installation. I eekp getting "could not resolve pac.zcalertwo.net" and can't find anything about that in searches
[15:29] <ikonia> daum_: google.com
[15:30] <CIclops> ikonia, hi i'm still stuck trying to reinstall a package that was removed during upgrade along with about 200 others, why would it do that?
[15:30] <daum_> ikonia, oh no
[15:30] <ikonia> daum_: if you do "nslookup" - on it's own, just like that, what do you get ?
[15:30] <ikonia> CIclops: you'd need to provide details
[15:30] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/FsmM7MLK
[15:30] <k1l> burdickjp: can you show a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" in a pastebin
[15:30] <CIclops> ikonia, sure what do you need ... this is 14.04.3
[15:31] <ikonia> daum_: thats interesting, so your resolver is working (although the truncated message is a bit worrying)
[15:31] <net2014> sudo
[15:31] <net2014> mistake ^
[15:31] <ikonia> daum_: can you show me "uname -a" please
[15:31] <ikonia> CIclops: details on the problems
[15:31] <daum_> Linux goose 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:32] <ikonia> daum_: so it's totally stock, there is no hypervisor,
[15:32] <daum_> oops sorry replace goose with "viper" there , had ran that on wrong server
[15:32] <burdickjp> everything in sources.list is out-of-the box us.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:32] <ikonia> daum_: no big deal
[15:32] <burdickjp> there's nothing in sources.list.d
[15:32] <daum_> ikonia, yep we're just installed diretly.  then we have two networks 1 internal private 1 public
[15:32] <daum_> different devices
[15:32] <ikonia> daum_: pastebin netstatn -rn
[15:33] <CIclops> ikonia, skype was removed during an upgrade and now it won't reinstall
[15:33] <ikonia> this won't be a problem, but lets remove doubt
[15:33] <ikonia> CIclops: define "won't reinstall"
[15:33] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/7JxtHPSi
[15:33] <net2014> so, basically to get rid of the root user OerHeks says "delete it, and logout/login > sudo passwd -dl root # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_accoun"
[15:34] <ikonia> daum_: looks sane
[15:34] <ikonia> daum_: humour me, do "traceroute google.com"
[15:34] <burdickjp> I'm not sure how to get something into pastebin from a console-only install
[15:35] <net2014> I logout/login and then sudo passwd -dl root ? or no need to logout/login? and what about, 1st user created has privileges? user accounts panel, says there is only one user, me, plus a samba user I created lately, that is used only be samba. First user will be me?
[15:35] <daum_> ikonia, google.com: Name or service not known
[15:35] <daum_> ikonia, definitely something weird with how i set these all up as i just noticed none of them can resolv the domain names, but are all publicly accessible
[15:36] <k1l> burdickjp: you use ssh, right? so copy the text from the terminal and put it into the pastbin site
[15:36] <ikonia> daum_: what about www.google.com
[15:37] <daum_> same
[15:37] <ikonia> is it just google or any external domains
[15:37] <CIclops> ikonia, softare center starts install and says: Package dependencies cannot be resolved ... then shows this list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597103/
[15:37] <ikonia> eg: wget http://www.google.com
[15:37] <daum_> yeah looks like any
[15:38] <daum_> its so weird dig is able to find it too
[15:38] <burdickjp> k1l: give me a few to get ssh up and get into it
[15:38] <ikonia> CIclops: do it from the command line
[15:38] <ikonia> daum_: so part of this I can explain, why I don't know
[15:38] <k1l> burdickjp: or attach a "| nc termbin.com 9999" to the command
[15:39] <ikonia> daum_: so you have basically a library on your system called libresolv which is where it's hooked up to nswitch.conf to find out where it should go to get dns
[15:39] <ikonia> in your case files then dns
[15:39] <ikonia> if you query something with say, nslookup, host or dig, it doesn't use libresolv, it goes directly to the name server (which you know is working - great)
[15:39] <ikonia> for some reason it appears ping/wget/curl/whatever is either ignoring libresolv, or your resolver is not configured correclty
[15:40] <ikonia> CIclops: you'll get more info about that's failing and why
[15:40] <ikonia> CIclops: that dependency list is terrible and the fact that libc is missing suggests your machine is in a very bad way
[15:40] <CIclops> ikonia,  like this? sudo apt-get install skype-bin:i386?
[15:40] <daum_> ikonia, weird...hmmm
[15:40] <burdickjp> k1l: I was remembering there being something like that, but couldn't remember what
[15:40] <loveheartjoylove> Why is the alpha so large? Does this mean the footprint is also going to be oversized?
[15:41] <ikonia> CIclops: just sudo apt-get install skype
[15:41] <teward> !ubuntu+1 | loveheartjoylove
[15:41] <burdickjp> k1l: termbin.com/52c4
[15:41] <ikonia> daum_: you understand what I'm saying though ?
[15:41] <ikonia> daum_: just for run, could you run ldd against the ping binary
[15:41] <k1l> burdickjp: ok, can you do this with a "sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[15:42] <daum_> yeah - so the resolver isn't working so hot but things that just look at the resolv.conf and uses that namesrever works fine
[15:42] <ikonia> so the good news is your name server is working
[15:42] <ikonia> it's just going to be a question of understanding what you've done to break the resolver lookup
[15:42] <daum_> http://pastebin.com/cW73uTt4
[15:43] <nonaTure> hi
[15:43] <daum_> ikonia, this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81797/nslookup-finds-ip-but-ping-doesnt looks familiar but my nsswitch file is already setup as they recommend
[15:43] <ikonia> daum_: looks sane
[15:43] <daum_> ikonia, also the network i do know now does support multicast on itsince one of our products is using it to cluster
[15:44] <ikonia> daum_: for argument, take a backup of the nsswitch.conf file so thats safe and remove files from the hosts section of nsswitch
[15:44] <burdickjp> k1l: it doesn't seem to like that. I get "use netcat." and then it spits the output to console
[15:44] <ikonia> daum_: you could even just strip it down to 1 line, hosts: dns
[15:45] <daum_> so just have the entire file be that?
[15:45] <ikonia> nothing else would work - but it would be a good test
[15:45] <ikonia> yeah
[15:45] <k1l> burdickjp: ok, so does the apt update work?
[15:45] <burdickjp> k1l: no
[15:45] <daum_> ikonia, do i need to restart some service or something?
[15:45] <ikonia> no
[15:45] <burdickjp> k1l: failed to fetch and then some links
[15:45] <k1l> burdickjp: what error?
[15:45] <CIclops> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14598258/
[15:45] <net2014> basically, here is the deal, I will summarize the issue. I found out I have a root user and was able to log in to it in the terminal, then I added a password for protection. But I am not actually supposed to have a root user, as all ubuntu users. So, to fix that I do sudo passwd -dl root. But what happens then to the system? System will give admin rights to 1st user? user accounts panel in system settings says there are two users, me
[15:45] <net2014> (I have admin rights), and then the samba user I created lately. This means, system will revert to me and give me admin rights? or are there any other hidden users perhaps?
[15:45] <daum_> still no luck
[15:45] <nonaTure> hey guys, how come that the ubuntu download links are NOT SECURE?
[15:45] <burdickjp> k1l: and then could not resolve 'pac.zcalertwo.net'
[15:46] <nonaTure> no httpS
[15:46] <ikonia> nonaTure: don't need to be
[15:46] <nonaTure> don't need to be?
[15:46] <k1l> net2014: on ubuntu there is a root user. but there is no password so you cant login with a password.
[15:46] <k1l> net2014: so you use sudo if you need root powers.
[15:46] <ikonia> CIclops: do you have any PPA's or 3rd party repos configured
[15:46] <CIclops> ikonia, yes
[15:47] <k1l> net2014: to be very clear now: get rid of that root password and never set it again. thats all
[15:47] <ikonia> CIclops: ok, so didn't I advise you to undo all that earlier
[15:47] <CIclops> ikonia, yes but i don't which one(s) or how
[15:47] <net2014> k1l, so I just enter sudo passwd -dl root and that's all? no worries about the system, it will be as before and users won't get messed up?
[15:47] <ikonia> CIclops: all of them, and I told you to use ppa-purge
[15:48] <k1l> net2014: and please read the article about sudo. we explained you 10 times now. but you still dont get the idea. so please read the article linked by the bot
[15:48] <nonaTure> how to check if I have downloaded the original ubuntu and not a backdoored? ikonia
[15:48] <ikonia> nonaTure: checksum
[15:48] <ikonia> md5sums
[15:48] <nonaTure> ikonia: the checksum is also not served over httpS
[15:48] <ikonia> daum_: very odd, and this is on every box
[15:48] <nonaTure> or where can I find it?
[15:48] <net2014> k1l, thanks for all this information, but  I just enter sudo passwd -dl root and that's all? no worries about the system, it will be as before and users won't get messed up?
[15:48] <daum_> yep ikonia all 7...they were all setup pretty much the exact same
[15:49] <k1l> net2014: yes
[15:49] <ikonia> nonaTure: if you feel it's needed, raise a bug on launchpad.net
[15:49] <k1l> net2014: and dont set the password for root again. that is a bad advice on ubuntu.
[15:49] <nonaTure> that is a hardcore security bug
[15:49] <net2014> k1l, thanks
[15:49] <net2014> thank you all
[15:49] <ikonia> raise a bug if you feel it is important then
[15:49] <ikonia> daum_: I'll need to think, this is very puzzling
[15:50] <pmow> I've been fiddling with pwmconfig/lm-sensors all morning, and I've figured out that i2c-i801 module isn't loading.  I've read that it can be blacklisted if there's a conflict, but it's not in the blacklists and dmesg does not show any conflicts even after I successfully load it.
[15:50] <nonaTure> I want to write about it
[15:50] <nonaTure> but before I want to confirm with you that I am not blind
[15:50] <ikonia> nonaTure: go on then
[15:50] <pmow> How might I load it properly on boot?
[15:50] <daum_> ikonia, not even sure what i'd say haha - will let you think o n it, and am looking around to see if there si anything else that may be going on here
[15:50] <k1l> nonaTure: how do you expect the md5sum should be presented to you?
[15:50] <nonaTure> there is no way to check if one has got the right (original) version?
[15:50] <ikonia> daum_: it's got to be something silly thats missing here,
[15:50] <shamis> Hey guys, I'm trying to write a python script to log the output of the "top" command every given time interval, but I also need the command to output multi-core loads on CPU (as per the 1 option in interactive mode) and RAM usage. Can anyone please help
[15:50] <k1l> nonaTure: check the md5sum
[15:51] <ikonia> daum_: these are standard installs, nothing you've done to them etc
[15:51] <daum_> for the hosts file
[15:51] <luketheduke1> I'm experimenting with fork bombs in a KVM VM & noticed under system monitor that the CPU running the VM seems to swap a lot. Does anyone know why it does that?
[15:51] <luketheduke1> by swap, I mean the CPU being used for the VM changes frequently
[15:51] <k1l> or other hashes that are provided
[15:51] <nonaTure> where can I find the checksum? k1l
[15:51] <k1l> !md5sum | nonaTure
[15:51] <nonaTure> ubottu: this is also a http link without security
[15:51] <burdickjp> k1l: did I miss something?
[15:51] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/buBSwF68 is my hosts file - xx.xx is just the public ip, viper is the hostname
[15:52] <alexf> Is there a channel for questions about the xenial builds?
[15:52] <ikonia> daum_: looks sane
[15:52] <ikonia> alexf: #ubuntu+1
[15:52] <nonaTure> actually there is a httpS version for it
[15:52] <daum_> should that just be on the internal ip? or does it not matter
[15:52] <alexf> ikonia: ty
[15:52] <daum_> rather the loopback
[15:52] <ikonia> daum_: fine
[15:53] <daum_> ikonia, resolfconv is start/running according to status
[15:53] <ikonia> daum_: hmm, that suggests dnsmasq is involved still
[15:53] <nonaTure> ikonia: ubottu : just the HOWTO is secure. not the actual hashes... on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:53] <ikonia> daum_: is dnsmasq running (check with ps)
[15:53] <ikonia> nonaTure: no idea why you are telling me
[15:54] <daum_> ikonia, nope
[15:54] <ikonia> nonaTure: log a bug / write about it / use a torrent
 burdickjp: what error?
[15:55] <burdickjp> k1l: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-security/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'pac.zcalertwo.net'
[15:55] <daum_> should i stop resolvconf?
[15:55] <ikonia> daum_: that shouldn't matter without dnsmasq, but you can try
[15:55] <burdickjp> k1l: a few lines before that without the could not resolve, and a few after which include the could not resolve
[15:56] <daum_> ikonia, hm no luck still can't ping
[15:56] <daum_> is there a way to clear the dns cache locally?
[15:56] <k1l> burdickjp: what is pac.zcalertwo.net?
[15:56] <nonaTure> ikonia: where to fill the 'bug' ?
[15:56] <ikonia> nonaTure: laundpad.net
[15:56] <burdickjp> k1l: i have no idea
[15:56] <ikonia> daum_: you're not using a local cache
[15:56] <nonaTure> telling you because everybody should be interested
[15:56] <daum_> since when i first booted these up it definitely work working, the only thing that really has changed is the on the private network we disabled igmp snooping
[15:57] <ikonia> nonaTure: I'm already aware of this though
[15:57] <k1l> !bug | nonaTure
[15:59] <fales> @search "neural computation"
[16:00] <k1l> burdickjp: is that the server name?
[16:00] <burdickjp> k1l: no. i genuinely don't know what it is or has to do with. I've tried connecting out by the local wifi and by tethering my phone and both ways do that.
[16:01] <daum_> ah wait a second
[16:02] <daum_> ikonia, anything you see weird here: http://pastebin.com/U64DPxuM
[16:03] <ikonia> daum_: nah, thats incoming only
[16:03] <daum_> blah haha
[16:03] <ikonia> daum_: and you already know the port is open and you can manually query the name server
[16:03] <ikonia> daum_: if you want to remove doubt, disable the firewall for a few minutes
[16:04] <jgornick> Hey folks, I'm trying to load a driver for my USB WiFi adapter. I've installed the linux-firmware package on my 14.04 instance, however, it doesn't seem to be loading the module via modprobe for the chipset driver I need. Any ideas on next steps? I'm specifically trying to load the rtl8192cu driver for my TRENDnet TEW-648UBM device.
[16:04] <k1l> burdickjp: look up the hostname and host configs if there is something wrong
[16:04] <daum_> yep no luck there either
[16:04] <nonaTure> have fun using your unsecure linux
[16:05] <ikonia> daum_: I'm thinking, this is interesting,
[16:07] <burdickjp> k1l: hostname has the name of the server in it
[16:07] <burdickjp> k1l: host.conf has "order hosts,bind" and "multi on"
[16:07]  * CIclops waits for ikonia to finish thinking
[16:09] <CIclops> when I ppa-purge a package it updates the packages lists then says "Could not find package list for PPA" does it matter?
[16:09] <ikonia> CIclops: yes, that means it can't wor
[16:11] <net2014> hello
[16:11] <net2014> thanks you advice about disabling root worked as a charm
[16:11] <burdickjp> k1l: I'm going to try something else for this box. thank you for the help, anyway.
[16:12] <net2014> I am trying now to allo samba in ufw, but sudo allow apache2 doesn't work
[16:12] <k1l> burdickjp: sorry, got no clue what is wrong there
[16:12] <net2014> it can't find apache profle, any deas?
[16:13] <burdickjp> k1l: that makes two of us, then.
[16:13] <burdickjp> k1l: have a good one.
[16:13] <net2014> ah,ok, it was apache, not apache2
[16:16] <drake01> hi! what extra does ubuntu 16.04 has which isnt/won'tbe there in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:17] <genii> squirrels
[16:18] <DirtyCajun> well its a major revison.
[16:18] <DirtyCajun> the first thing taht comes to mind is systemd is standard
[16:18] <DirtyCajun> are you worried about something drake?
[16:19] <daum_> ikonia, any other ideas - i cang think of anything here
[16:19] <ballmer> 16.04 will have unity 7, the 4.4 kernel, and updated apps
[16:20] <DirtyCajun> ^ dat conciceness so sexy
[16:20] <ikonia> daum_: still thinking, it's certainly confusing
[16:20] <ballmer> its unity 8 where things will be very different
[16:20] <ikonia> daum_: ok - lets look at it a bit more
[16:20] <ikonia> daum_: do "strace ping www.google.com" stick it in a pastebin, it's going to be big
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> drake01  wait for 16.04 reviews, support in #ubuntu+1
[16:21] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/VdP70ZYv
[16:22] <ikonia> daum_: how annoying it is parsing resolv.conf
[16:22] <ikonia> daum_: lets have another look at resolv.conf please
[16:23] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/AK2eVHe2
[16:23] <ikonia> daum_: more reading, hang on
[16:23] <daum_> sec i figured this out it hink
[16:23] <daum_> if i move my hostname "viper" in this case
[16:24] <daum_> to the loopback
[16:24] <daum_> instead of public ip
[16:24] <daum_> botta boom
[16:24] <ikonia> so that should only matter if it's using dnsmasq
[16:24] <ikonia> nice spot though
[16:24] <ikonia> I can't see any reason that would matter, i'll need to think
[16:24] <daum_> shrug ps aux doesn't show anything with dns int he name other then the grep itself
[16:26] <daum_> thanks for helping out
[16:26] <daum_> the strace pointed me at that hosts file again
[16:26] <ikonia> daum_: you helped yourself, so well done
[16:27] <elpasmo> Hi all, I messed up my ubuntu 15.10 removing python2 and I want to reinstall. I have 3 partitiones, one for root, one for home and the swap one and I want to keep my home partition. Thing is I tried to reinstall ubuntu and it failed so, wich option should I choose? I want to keep my home but to erase all the rest (/usr/local/). I have the following options: Erase Ubuntu and reinstall (but it warns me that I will lose my documents), Install ubuntu 15.10 alo
[16:28] <start_user500> hello
[16:28] <start_user500> anyone who have some experience with dd-wrt ? :o
[16:29] <k1l> start_user500: better ask the dd-wrt cannel right?
[16:29] <rypervenche> start_user500: Sure, but this is not the place for questions about it.
[16:29] <start_user500> i know there's the ddwrt channel but all ppl are idling there :\
[16:29] <rww> which doesn't make it on-topic for here
[16:29] <rypervenche> start_user500: And go openWRT^^
[16:29]  * coma_ :D
[16:29] <start_user500> rypervenche: i guess is the same
[16:29] <start_user500> btw because some people maybe use ddwrt...
[16:30] <rypervenche> Taking to PM.
[16:30] <nicomachus> start_user500: there is also ##networking
[16:31] <DS-McGuire> Can somebody help me out? I've tried to flash  my MX4 using the ubuntu-device-flash method and it failed to enter recovery in the process and now my phone wont boot. Anybody who helps me out I'll donate £5 via paypal!
[16:31] <xangua> ! Touch | DS-McGuire
[16:31] <rww> DS-McGuire: you probably want #ubuntu-touch, they're much better at phone stuff than us
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> !phone | DS-McGuire
[16:31] <start_user500> nicomachus: maybe networking could work but i'm unsure
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> xangua  was faster
[16:32] <rww> rww did it without using a factoid and thus wins
[16:32] <rww> one of these days i'm going to kickban ubottu for a day and see how many support helpers survive
[16:33] <DS-McGuire> Thanks guys!
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> rww  remove a car repairman's utensils and see how long he'll survive
[16:33] <DirtyCajun> rww: wants to watch the world burn
[16:33] <rww> i dispute MonkeyDust's analogy but agree with DirtyCajun
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> rww  ubottu is a help tool, nothing more
[16:35] <scootero> hello there!
[16:39] <Luyin> hello, i'm looking for a package or ppa for apache's openNLP. is there such a package?
[16:40] <LxLuther> #cisco
[16:41] <Dro> whats the meaning of this, is it dangerous ?
[16:41] <Dro> https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/gpg_2e643534c18a87b977178d0847b8aa99905e854e.txt
[16:42] <Dro> this command:
[16:42] <Dro> sudo rm -r /var/cache/apt/archives/* && curl https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/sources_2e643534c18a87b977178d0847b8aa99905e854e.txt | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list && curl https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/gpg_2e643534c18a87b977178d0847b8aa99905e854e.txt | sudo tee /etc/apt/gpg_keys.txt && sudo apt-get update && apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install apache2
[16:42] <Pici> Dro: I don't see anything at that url.
[16:43] <nicomachus> looks like it is adding a gpg key.
[16:44] <rypervenche> Dro: Depends on if you trust the site and what it's putting in your sources.list.
[16:44] <Dro> nicomachus, and what does that mean?
[16:44] <Dro> rypervenche, the content of sources.list seems to be legit
[16:44] <rypervenche> Dro: We can't see what is in that text file.
[16:44] <Dro> but the command is too strange for me :D
[16:44] <marcos123> hi
[16:44] <marcos123> i need help
[16:44] <marcos123> https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:45] <Dro> when i run it my screen was closed for 2 seconds
[16:45] <rypervenche> Dro: The commands are fine. If you trust the content and the gpg keys, go for it.
[16:45] <Dro> and i found my system locked
[16:45] <marcos123> i am running some services as root in seafile seahub
[16:45] <marcos123> in my ubuntu
[16:45] <truckcrash> When using "Connect to Server" in files (see here: http://i.imgur.com/5zFi7rO.png) is there a way to pass flags to the sftp command? I need to add some options to get it to connect
[16:45] <Dro> thats why i'm asking if its dangerous..
[16:45] <linuxlove> hello
[16:45] <linuxlove> how can i know in which group am i ?
[16:45] <linuxlove> with terminal
[16:45] <linuxlove> how can i know in which group am i in terminal?
[16:45] <marcos123> but i want to run service as normal user in ubuntu
[16:45] <marcos123> any help?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  groups
[16:46] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, it shows several groups
[16:46] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, they are groups that i am a member of it?
[16:47] <marcos123> any ubuntu geek?
[16:47] <truckcrash> linuxlove, yes
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  yes
[16:47] <Luyin> doesn't the command up there overwrite the sources.list?
[16:47] <marcos123> problems to change ownership of service running
[16:47] <Luyin> shouldn't it bee "tee -a" ?
[16:47] <Luyin> *be
[16:47] <linuxlove> hey guys my netbeans stops at starting moduals what should i do?
[16:47] <rypervenche> Luyin: It's meant to.
[16:48] <marcos123> change root to normal user in service running for ubuntu?
[16:48] <marcos123> any help?
[16:48] <ikonia> marcos123: what do you mean ?
[16:49] <marcos123> ikonia
[16:49] <marcos123> https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:49] <marcos123> this is the tutorial
[16:49] <marcos123> when i run the final scripts
[16:50] <marcos123> runs as root the service
[16:50] <marcos123> in port 8000
[16:50] <ikonia> so follow the tutorial
[16:50] <marcos123> i want to run the process service as normal user
[16:50] <loveheartjoylove> Sooo, I installed ubuntu 15.10 using my USB drive. But now I only get boot errors when I try to reinstall it
[16:50] <marcos123> not root
[16:50] <loveheartjoylove> Helpity help help me
[16:50] <ikonia> so either run the script as a non-root user, or look in the script what's changing to a root user
[16:50] <marcos123> for example when mysql is installed run as mysql ownership
[16:51] <ikonia> marcos123: correct, it needs to be run as root
[16:51] <linuxlove> hey guys my netbeans stops at starting moduals what should i do?
[16:51] <loveheartjoylove> Nothing should be different!!!
[16:51] <loveheartjoylove> It should be the exact same process a followed when it worked, and did not fail
[16:51] <loveheartjoylove> Linuxlove? Seriously? We're friends.
[16:51] <marcos123> ikonia it needs to run as root?
[16:51] <marcos123> ikonia what you mean?
[16:52] <ikonia> marcos123: I mean mysql server process needs to be urn as root
[16:52] <ikonia> it then spawns a child owned by a different use using the mysql_safe script
[16:52] <marcos123> ikonia have a look in the tutorial https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:52] <ikonia> no
[16:53] <ikonia> marcos123: follow the tutorial or don't,
[16:53] <marcos123> ikonia: i follow the tutorial
[16:53] <marcos123> ikonia the files are store in /opt
[16:53] <marcos123> only root has access
[16:54] <ikonia> marcos123: ok - so there you go
[16:54] <ikonia> run it as root
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia i dont want to run it as root my service
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia it is insecure
[16:54] <ikonia> marcos123: then start the service as a non-root user
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia i want to have less privileges
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia how i do it?
[16:54] <ikonia> marcos123: how are you starting it ?
[16:55] <marcos123> ikonia https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:55] <ikonia> stop posting that
[16:55] <ikonia> I'm asking you - how are YOU starting it
[16:55] <marcos123> ./seafile.sh start  ./seahub.sh  start
[16:55] <ikonia> ok - so run that as a non-root user
[16:56] <marcos123> ikonia i can´t run as non-root user
[16:56] <ikonia> why not
[16:56] <marcos123> ikonia it say permission denied
[16:56] <ikonia> change the permissions on the script then
[16:57] <marcos123> ikonia chmod -R user /opt/seafile   is that correct?
[16:57] <marcos123> ikonia and then ./seafile.sh start  ./seahub.sh  start
[16:57] <ikonia> no
[16:57] <ikonia> chmod sets the privileges, not the user
[16:57] <marcos123> ikonia give me an example
[16:57] <zykotick9> ikonia: re:marcos123 i have no interest in finding out what seafile is, but if it's using a low network port... that could create another permission issue.
[16:57] <ikonia> marcos123: man chmod
[16:57] <ikonia> zykotick9: I'm pretty sure it will
[16:58] <ikonia> be he seems unwilling to accept that it needs to be run as root
[16:58] <ikonia> it's in the 3000's though
[16:58] <SchrodingersScat> zykotick9: seems to use 8000 for some reason, may not be a problem?
[16:58] <ikonia> so he may get away with it
[16:58] <mustmodify> I have sudden-onset loss of network from my linux machine. This has happened intermittently before and, in the past, I came to the conclusion it might be a network hardware or driver issue. Any thoughts on how I can diagnose since I'm currently seeing the issue? No way of knowing how long it will last. Current symptom: "ping: unknown host google.com"
[16:58] <ikonia> ahh 8000's
[16:58] <marcos123> zykotick9 the port is 8000
[16:58] <ikonia> mustmodify: what does the syslog on the machine say when it fails
[16:58] <marcos123> zykotick9 not problem with permission
[16:59] <zykotick9> marcos123: ikonia: SchrodingersScat: it was total speculation on my part ;)
[16:59] <zykotick9> marcos123: good luck!
[16:59] <ikonia> zykotick9: there will be many more obsticles, so it's worth pointing out
[16:59] <SchrodingersScat> zykotick9: there's likely other reasons it won't work :^)
[17:01] <mustmodify> ikonia: most recent entries look like "GLib-CRITICAL: Source ID (various 4-digit numbers) was not found when attempting to remove it"
[17:01] <ikonia> mustmodify: not looking for the most recent, looking for what happens when your network card goes down
[17:01] <marcos123> ikonia i find the way exec start-stop-daemon --start --chuid daemonuser --exec /bin/server_cmd
[17:01] <mustmodify> well, that just happened.
[17:02] <mustmodify> timeframe is about right.
[17:02] <marcos123> ikonia this is an example
[17:02] <ikonia> marcos123: go on then
[17:02] <marcos123> ikonia but i think it will work
[17:02] <ikonia> do it then
[17:02] <mustmodify> entries before that are "Processor 1 heated above trip temperature; throttling enabled" followed almost immediately by "below trip temperature"... but that was 30 minutes ago.
[17:02] <ikonia> marcos123: so there is nothing to suggest that your network card link has gone down
[17:02] <ikonia> marcos123: oops, sorry not you
[17:03] <ikonia> mustmodify: so there is nothing to suggest that your network card has gone down
[17:03] <mustmodify> ikonia: assuming that would be in syslog, then no, I guess not.
[17:03] <mustmodify> I'll try to ping myself.
[17:03] <ikonia> mustmodify: so is it not possible that your ISP is the problem
[17:03] <ikonia> and you're default route is going down
[17:04] <mustmodify> ikonia: well it's not my IP because it's sister machine, right next to it physically and on the network, is fine.
[17:04] <ikonia> mustmodify: what's not your ip
[17:05] <mustmodify> My ISP can't be the problem.
[17:05] <ikonia> ahh ISP
[17:05] <mustmodify> I'll switch cables to verify.
[17:05] <ikonia> can your machine talk to anything in your network
[17:05] <mustmodify> AHHHH
[17:05] <mustmodify> sorry for the typo
[17:05] <ikonia> no problem
[17:05] <mustmodify> doesn't seem like it.
[17:05] <mustmodify> but if your theory is right, then if I switch cables, logopolis should come up.
[17:05] <ikonia> mustmodify: the fact that the link is still up or not being reported as "down" in the syslog suggests the network stack and card is still up
[17:07] <mustmodify> ikonia: Switched cables and now they both work.
[17:07] <mustmodify> So that kinda sucks.
[17:07] <mustmodify> from a diagnostic perspective.
[17:07] <ikonia> just keep an eye on it
[17:08] <mustmodify> :)
[17:08] <mustmodify> thanks for the sanity check.
[17:08] <truckcrash> When using "Connect to Server" in files (see here: http://i.imgur.com/5zFi7rO.png) is there a way to pass flags to the sftp command? I need to add some options to get it to connect
[17:14] <obiwahn> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[17:14] <obiwahn> how can i download the gcc-6 package
[17:15] <welovfree> Hi guys, how can I uninstall desktop environment I previously installed and don't like?
[17:16] <ikonia> open the package manager, click remove on the package
[17:16] <mike3> welovfree what distro?
[17:17] <welovfree> ikonia, Ubuntu 14.04
[17:17] <welovfree> mike3,
[17:17] <nicomachus> welovfree: what DE?
[17:17] <mike3> apt-get remove kde
[17:17] <mike3> ?
[17:17] <welovfree> nicomachus, plasma
[17:17] <mike3> pretty sure that's about it. I haven't used a desktop environment in years.
[17:18] <nicomachus> ikonia's method should work, welovfree
[17:18] <nicomachus> some others like to stick config files in places that are tricky to get to...
[17:18]  * nicomachus looks at i3
[17:19] <welovfree> nicomachus, where can i see the whole list of DE I've installed?
[17:19] <xangua> welovfree: there's not really an easy method to remove a desktop environment you installed, beside having taking note of what packages did you install
[17:21] <josejavier> heeey muy buenas chavales
[17:21] <josejavier> todo bien todo correcto y yo que me alegro?
[17:22] <xangua> josejavier: English please
[17:22] <kamell> buenas
[17:22] <nicomachus> !es | josejavier
[17:22] <rww> josejavier: English here, please. #ubuntu-es for spanish.
[17:22] <nicomachus> rww wins again
[17:22] <josejavier> ok buei
[17:22] <josejavier> le peto el xchat?
[17:22] <josejavier> jajajajajaajajjajaajajjajajajajaajajaj
[17:22] <josejavier> windows es mejor
[17:23] <k1l> josejavier: english only in here
[17:23] <rww> aww, i was about to do that with the message "rww es mejor"
[17:23] <rww> ruining all my fun ikonia
[17:23] <ikonia> sorry
[17:24] <welovfree> is this message "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 535 not upgraded."  means I'm having the up to date package I'm trying to install?
[17:25] <nicomachus> "le peto el xchat" comes up as "I breastplate the xchat" on translate... :?
[17:29] <CIclops> ikonia, still stuck here trying to purge these PPA packages, can i just uninstall them?
[17:29] <xangua> CIclops: that's what PPA purge does
[17:30] <welovfree> is this message "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 535 not upgraded."  means I'm having the up to date package I'm trying to install?
[17:30] <xangua> CIclops: you'll probably be better with a clean install(backup) and don't add every single PPA you find posted somewhere
[17:30] <ikonia> CIclops: you're in a mess
[17:30] <xangua> welovfree: what are you trying to install?
[17:31] <Craigwell> I have my system set up to hibernate now, but it doesn't actually do it. When I select hibernate, it shuts down as if it is hibernating, but when I power up again - it's a fresh boot.
[17:31] <ikonia> CIclops: I'd suggest you backup your data - re-install with the correct version of ubuntu and move forward CAREFULLY from that clean point
[17:31] <welovfree> xangua, Numix theme
[17:31] <Craigwell> this is in fstab: Is it correct?  /dev/sda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
[17:32] <ubuntu474> Hai
[17:32] <CIclops> ikonia, that's a LOT of work ... no way to fix the offending dependencies?
[17:33] <ikonia> I suspect based on what you're showing me - you'll find it quicker than trying to fix the mess you're in with the understanding you have
[17:33] <xangua> welovfree: you need their PPA https://numixproject.org/
[17:34] <welovfree> xangua, I've added them
[17:34] <xangua> welovfree: then what's the issue?
[17:35] <xangua> If you have any issues with their PPA, please contact then
[17:35] <xangua> Them
[17:36] <welovfree> xangua, I want to make sure I've got the last release I'm having an issue installing it
[17:36] <welovfree> xangua, I've already installed and activated the theme
[17:36] <xangua> welovfree: then check the PPA itself?
[17:36] <welovfree> xangua, ok
[17:37] <welovfree> xangua, thanks
[17:42] <CIclops> ikonia, this system has successfully installed all updates since it was created in 2014, the last update  saw some issue and suggested a partial update, which I did, at the end it asked if unneeded package should be removed, about 200 of them! foolishly i said yes ... *now* i see skype was in the list, is there a way to reinstall all those deleted packages?
[17:44] <zykotick9> CIclops: <for next time> _never_ do a partial upgrade, it translates to "i'm going to break your system"...  best of luck.
[17:46] <CIclops> zykotick9, then there should be a warning, it was the first time i've seen that in maybe 50 upgrades
[17:46] <Surendil>  welovfree: why not using dpkg -l | grep kde to see installed package, then remove with apt-get remove or apt-get purge?
[17:47] <zykotick9> CIclops: <sidenote> you should _never_ see a partial upgrade offered (if you're running default ubuntu repos, i'd guess you aren't)...
[17:48] <ioria> CIclops, you can try a  cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep autoremove -A 9
[17:49] <CIclops> zykotick9, yes i have several PPAs and they've been happy with all upgrades until today
[17:49] <CIclops> ioria, what does that do?
[17:50] <cosec_> guys, how do i instal and use wine ?
[17:50] <ioria> CIclops,  it tells you which pkgs are in 'autoremove'
[17:50] <CIclops> thx
[17:50] <zykotick9> ioria: fyi, your suggestion _might_ cause further problems/breakages now :(  CIclops just so it's clear, something, on you system got updated that _breaks_ other packages, now you want to put those things back...
[17:51] <ioria> zykotick9, ah, ok
[17:51] <CIclops> ioria ... null output so i assume none are
[17:52] <ioria> CIclops,  if 'autoremove' is not in history.log , something changed ...
[17:53] <CIclops> zykotick9, i see restoring broken packages is not a good idea, can all 200+ packages be broken?
[17:53] <CIclops> after a single upgrade
[17:54] <CIclops> i have the list
[17:54] <ioria> CIclops,  i was reading your 'it asked if unneeded package should be removed,'    i thought it was 'autoremoved'
[17:54] <CIclops> ioria, yes so i assumed it was okay to remove them
[17:55] <ioria> CIclops,  so it should shoes up in your history.log
[17:55] <ioria> *shows
[17:55] <ShaggyInc> any ex-Mac users here?
[17:55] <mike3> ShaggyInc me
[17:55] <ShaggyInc> Is there any way to get Chicago as aPCF font?
[17:55] <mike3> well current if I could afford one
[17:56] <mike3> No clue :)
[17:56] <ShaggyInc> man
[17:56] <hackitosh> ext3 0r ext4 file different
[17:56] <ShaggyInc> mike3, it's the font that made classic macos shine
[17:57] <CIclops> ioria, it's quite brief .. maybe too long for here, i'll pb it
[17:57] <ShaggyInc> mike3, great for low-res screens or with visibility impairment
[17:57] <Papfox> Evening everyone. I have a fresh install on a new machine and I'm having trouble with it. What can I do to try to find the cause of repeated kernel panics please?
[17:58] <CIclops> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599185/
[18:00] <ioria> CIclops,  well ,  Commandline:   should be apt-get autoremove   ...
[18:00] <ioria> CIclops,  i think it's not that
[18:01] <CIclops> ioria, it was about 256MB of updates .. latest firefox and a new kernel that didnt get installed
[18:02] <ioria> CIclops, try this    cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep autoremove          do you have any outputs ?
[18:02] <CIclops> ioria, no outputs
[18:03] <ioria> CIclops, so, no logs about autoremove   :(
[18:03] <zykotick9> ioria: it was the partial-upgrade that removed things - in real time...
[18:04] <ioria> CIclops,   what was your original issue ?
[18:05] <CIclops> ioria, the partial upgrade removed my Skype probably other packages too ... i have the list
[18:05] <ioria> CIclops,   wait... there are logs about the upgrades ....
[18:05] <CIclops> and now i can't reinstall it
[18:07] <CIclops> ioria,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599250/
[18:08] <jalt> What is the best wait to update the gcc toolchain on 14.04? Toolchain test PPA?
[18:09] <ioria> CIclops,   you can't reinstall Skype or you can reinstall anything ?
[18:11] <chachasmooth> $ git-dch
[18:11] <chachasmooth> gbp:error: Version 1.9.9-2 not found
[18:11] <chachasmooth> what does that mean?
[18:12] <net2014> hello
[18:13] <net2014> I have a network with a windows and an ubuntu pc
[18:13] <net2014> if I install mysql server in ubuntu, I can log in to the databases from a client in windows pc, right?
[18:14] <potato_farmer> only if you allow remote logins to mysql on the ubuntu system
[18:14] <CIclops> ioria sudo apt install skype  says "Some packages could not be installed."
[18:14] <net2014> potato_farmer, I see
[18:15] <CIclops> ioria i have installed a tool since, that was okay
[18:15] <net2014> for ubuntu security, besides a firewall, an antivirus, setting users and permissions, what else do you need?
[18:15] <net2014> obviously, when you install a server you setup authentication
[18:16] <net2014> but do you need something else?
[18:16] <bazhang> !info skype partner | CIclops
[18:16] <ioria> CIclops,   how did you install Skype ? with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[18:16] <bazhang> enable partner repo CIclops
[18:18] <CIclops> ioria, forgotten ... it's been installed since 2014
[18:18] <ioria> CIclops, have enabled Canonical Partner in Software & Updates ?
[18:18] <ioria> +you
[18:19] <CIclops> yes
[18:19] <ioria> CIclops, and it does not work ?
[18:19] <CIclops> it's totally gone
[18:19] <CIclops> removed
[18:20] <bazhang> apt update and upgrade following adding the repo CIclops
[18:20] <ioria> CIclops, ^^ bazhang
[18:20] <CIclops> bazhang ?
[18:21] <xangua> CIclops: around two hours ago was the first message I saw of you, by this time you could already have reinstalled Ubuntu and every single PPA you had
[18:21] <ioria> CIclops,  be sure to have ticked the Canonical Partner and run  sudo apt update
[18:21] <xangua> Less than half an hour to just install Ubuntu
[18:22] <ioria> that's right too
[18:22] <net2014> besides steam, what else programs like that, would you recommend for ubuntu?
[18:22] <CIclops> xangua, multitasking here .... i estimate it would take a few days to rebuild my system
[18:23] <ioria> CIclops, so try again to install (run update  and upgrade)  and post the errors you got
[18:23] <CIclops> apt update and upgrade?
[18:24] <ioria> CIclops, yep
[18:24] <CIclops> k
[18:27] <ikonia> CIclops: the quicker you get to a trusted state - your machine in my view is not a trusted state
[18:27] <ikonia> the less problems you'll have
[18:28] <CIclops> ioria update was fine, upgrade stopped here: The following packages have been kept back: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386
[18:28] <ikonia> the upgrade was not fine then was it
[18:28] <ikonia> or it wouldn't stop
[18:28] <CIclops> update was fine
[18:28] <ikonia> clearly not
[18:29] <ioria> CIclops,  kept back is not an error
[18:29] <ikonia> as it's not moving forward
[18:29] <ioria> CIclops,   sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:29] <CIclops> ioria, same result
[18:30] <ioria> CIclops,   dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[18:31] <skirlet> hi everyone(: has anyone had this issue? last night all my vid files including dvds stopped playing sound on my Ubuntu 14.04 .webm, .avi, .mov .mp4 in any player: vlc, videos, gnome player. ideas on how to fix/ what's up here? thanks!!
[18:31] <skirlet> the only player that will play vids with sound is kdenlive
[18:31] <CIclops> ioria, i386
[18:32] <bob2021> skirlet: use kdenlive.
[18:32] <CIclops> kdenlive is ***cool**
[18:32] <bob2021> another problem solved :)
[18:32] <bob2021> you're welcome ;)
[18:32] <ioria> CIclops,   try again   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:32] <coma_> try to update codecs mb
[18:33] <skirlet> kdenlive is cool, tru dat, any ideas about what what's up
[18:33] <CIclops> ioria, The following packages have been kept back: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386
[18:34] <ioria> CIclops,   and it stops ... with no other output ?
[18:34] <CIclops> ioria, displays this and stop
[18:34] <CIclops> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[18:35] <ioria> CIclops,   ok, and if you try to install Skype ... what you got ?
[18:36] <ankur> hellp guys
[18:36] <coma_> m?
[18:37] <CIclops> ioria, ... Some packages could not be installed. .. (long list) .. E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[18:38] <ioria> CIclops,   you are on wily ?
[18:38] <ankur> i just installed ubuntu mate latest addition but not able to set mouse pointer color "Black". is there any suggestions?
[18:40] <coma_> Mate uses themes and mouse pointers of gnome2 (gtk2 actualy), so a good place to start looking is gnome-look.org , here you can find many themes for the mouse pointer to install, and it works, I use mate myselve.
[18:40] <coma_> After downloading the theme file (do not extract it!) go to the appearance screen of gnome/mate, there you have a install button, use it to install the downloaded theme. afterwards you can go to customize to change it.
[18:41] <CIclops> ioria, wily?
[18:42] <ioria> CIclops,   cat /etc/issue
[18:42] <CIclops> ioria, 14.03.3 LTS
[18:43] <CIclops> oops 14.04.3 :)
[18:44] <ioria> CIclops,   and what servers/repo are you using ?
[18:44] <CIclops> main
[18:45] <ankur> coma_: Thanks
[18:45] <CIclops> canonical. independent and several PPAs
[18:46] <ioria> CIclops,   oh, are you using ppa ?
[18:47] <CIclops> yes
[18:47] <ioria> CIclops,  maybe they are the problems ?
[18:47] <start_user500> oook so :) can someone help me setup my printer on ubuntu? :O
[18:47] <CIclops> ioria, and others like dl.google.com .. is that a PPA?
[18:47] <ioria> CIclops,  no
[18:48] <start_user500> i will need to use it via router attached on usb, is better to test first the driver connecting the pc via usb ?
[18:48] <CIclops> ioria, seems that one or more PPA is the problem
[18:49] <CIclops> ioria, five ppas
[18:49] <ioria> CIclops,  if you run     apt-cache policy   gcc-4.9-base
[18:50] <CIclops> Installed: 4.9.2-10ubuntu13  ... Candidate: 4.9.3-0ubuntu4
[18:51] <ioria> CIclops,  can you pastebinit the full output ?
[18:51] <CIclops> k
[18:52] <ioria> CIclops,  but on trusty  should be Installed: 4.9.3-0ubuntu4
[18:52] <CIclops> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599599/
[18:52] <Papfox> @start_user500 Try plugging it into the machine via USB and see what happens. It may "just work"
[18:52] <start_user500> Papfox: no is that i have to use it via a router
[18:53] <ioria> !info gcc-4.9-base trusty | CIclops
[18:53] <CIclops> i can remove it?
[18:53] <Papfox> @start_user500 Do you mean a router (eithernet network device) or a USB hub?
[18:54] <ioria> CIclops,  no
[18:54] <CIclops> k
[18:54] <TJ-> ioria: CIclops I'd suggest debug logging those pkgProblemResolver::Resolve breaks
[18:55] <ioria> CIclops, you have the vivid one
[18:55] <ioria> !info gcc-4.9-base vivid | CIclops
[18:55] <CIclops> ioria,  not very trusty :)
[18:55] <ioria> CIclops, why ?
[18:55] <CIclops> dunno
[18:55] <start_user500> Papfox: no a router with usb support printer sharing
[18:55] <start_user500> Papfox: cups like it listen on port 9100
[18:56] <ioria> TJ- 's right
[18:56] <ioria> CIclops, try to swith to us repos
[18:57] <CIclops> server for United States?
[18:57] <ioria> CIclops, yep, and update & upgrade
[18:58] <Papfox> @start_user500 If you click the Ubuntu button, type "printers", open the printer app, press the "add" button then click "Network printer" and wait a few secons, does the machine discover the printer automatically?
[18:58] <TJ-> CIclops: capture the debug log to a pastebin. "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes -f install | tee >(nc termbin.com 9999)"
[18:59] <start_user500> Papfox: nope, but if i go for Find network Printer and i type my router address it says: JetDirect printer port 9100
[18:59] <start_user500> Papfox: the problem is i don't know wich driver select
[19:00] <Papfox> @start_user500 If you select that port and continue, it doesn't query the printer and work out which driver it needs?
[19:00] <start_user500> Papfox: i fear that i'm selecting the bad interface on router side
[19:01] <start_user500> Papfox: because i tried even with simple text or raw data
[19:01] <start_user500> Papfox: and still is not seeming to work
[19:01] <TJ-> start_user500: what make/model of printer is it?
[19:01] <start_user500> canon mx 870
[19:01] <TJ-> start_user500: and how is the router 'sharing' it?
[19:01] <start_user500> via jetdirect
[19:01] <start_user500> with a daemon called p910nd
[19:01] <Papfox> @start_user500 Does the router have a web interface? Try pointing your web browser at it and see if there are any settings you need to change to activate the printer.
[19:02] <start_user500> i have to select the usb device to share with p910nd
[19:02] <start_user500> i have 1-1, lp0, lp1
[19:02] <TJ-> start_user500: OK, so in the PC's CUPS you've selected the JetDirect print port, then you need to choose the correct Canonc MX870 cups driver
[19:02] <Guest56428> hello _me.braodcast anyone out there?
[19:04] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : This are the lines showing my printer connected on the router, maybe i configured bad p910nd http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599688/
[19:04] <CIclops> TJ-, is this right "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes -f install | tee >(nc termbin.com 9999)"
[19:05] <CIclops> just hangs
[19:07] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : This instead is the /dev i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599714/
[19:07] <Papfox> @start_user500 the device seems to be offering two printers to you usblp0 and usblp1. Try sudo echo "This is usblp0" > /dev/usblp0
[19:08] <Papfox> @start_user500 then sudo echo "This is usblp1" > /dev/usblp1
[19:08] <start_user500> Papfox: it will print something this way?
[19:08] <start_user500> let's try
[19:08] <TJ-> CIclops: I tested it here first and it worked; are you using the 'bash' shell ("echo $SHELL") ?
[19:09] <Callek> soooo, I am on 15.10 with the "default" window manager. I use alt+d a *lot* in my browser, but the window manager keeps stealing that shortcut to do a desktop search thing, any advice on how to disable the stealing of it from the window manager?
[19:09] <Papfox> @START_USER500 Even if it it down't print, hopefully one of those will at least make the lights on the printer flash to say it has data to print.
[19:09] <Callek> specifically it steals with the Firefox logo and says "type your command"
[19:10] <CIclops> TJ-, yes bash ... ok works now
[19:11] <start_user500> Papfox: well it seems not
[19:11] <start_user500> Papfox: i'm trying with all the interfaces there
[19:12] <start_user500> how can i do a sort of diagnostic for understand wich could be the port? i guess they are 2 usb because one is the printer and one the scanner, or am i wrong ?
[19:12] <Papfox> @start_user500 Where did the data from the pastebin come from please? The pc or the router?
[19:12] <CIclops> TJ-, ioria  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599746/
[19:13] <start_user500> Papfox: the router wich the printer is attached to
[19:13] <start_user500> Papfox: because i fear i'm doing correctly the things on the pc but i'm using the wrong port on the router
[19:13] <Papfox> @star_user500 I think the problem is the router. Can you get into it with a web browser?
[19:13] <start_user500> Papfox: yes but is a wrt
[19:14] <start_user500> Papfox: my goal was indeed to print even 2-3 chars with the printer, then start checking drivers and stuff on the pc
[19:15] <start_user500> Papfox: on devices however i have no /dev/usb/lp0
[19:15] <start_user500> Papfox: i have /dev/lp0
[19:16] <TJ-> CIclops: OK, that's good - nothing is actually broken. Now run the command to "install gcc-4.9-base" instead of "-f install" and lets see what it doesn't like
[19:16] <start_user500> Papfox: i was thinking i could cat some input
[19:16] <start_user500> Papfox: cat /dev/lp0
[19:17] <TJ-> start_user500: The printer is claiming to be USB Printer Device Class compliant; if you can't get output from it when echoing to the device, then it may not be totally USB-Printer compatible
[19:17] <Papfox> @start_user500 cat name_of_some_file > /dev/lp0
[19:17] <start_user500> ok ok so..
[19:17] <TJ-> start_user500: there are some printers that claim to be bi-directional but aren't, or can't cope with repeated status queries when theres data in the buffers
[19:17] <start_user500> i tried to cat /dev/lp0
[19:17] <start_user500> and prints lot of stuff
[19:18] <start_user500> and tried to print cat /dev/lp1
[19:18] <start_user500> and doesn't print anything
[19:18] <Papfox> @start_user500 cat /dev/lp0 tries to display the contents of lp0 which will be nothing.
[19:18] <TJ-> start_user500: I don't tihnk you have /dev/lp{0,1} - the usblp driver uses /dev/usblp{0,1} nodes, as the dmesg log shows
[19:19] <Papfox> @start_user500 try cat name_of_some_file > /dev/usblp0
[19:19] <Papfox> @start_user500 What is the make and model of the router please?
[19:20] <start_user500> Papfox: the router is a 1043nd with actually a ddwrt latest build on
[19:20] <TJ-> start_user500: try this (it sends a form-feed too) echo -ne "This is a test page\014" > /dev/usblp0
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> Papfox  drop the @ ... simply type sta and then hit tab
[19:21] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : this is what happen if i cat /dev/lp0 http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b81d18f7
[19:21] <Papfox> MonkeyDust, Thanks
[19:21] <CIclops> TJ-, ioria  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599801/
[19:21] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : had to use paste debian because the <? on the beginning make him thinking is a script
[19:23] <start_user500> TJ-: that line didn't make the printer print but turned on the printer lcd while she was sleeping
[19:23] <start_user500> !
[19:23] <TJ-> start_user500: That suggests the printer is NOT in text-mode by default, so you have to use a driver for it
[19:24] <start_user500> TJ-: ok so if i enable the p910nd with that port.. i can maybe being able to use ubuntu with the drivers for it
[19:24] <calinsalagean> Hello. Does anyone tried to connect an android phone to Ubuntu 14.04 and answer calls from Ubuntu?
[19:25] <Papfox> start_user500, WHat is the make and model of the router and what is its IP address please?
[19:25] <start_user500> Papfox: 1043nd v2, ddwrt build 28882 and ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:25] <TJ-> CIclops: " libstdc++6 : Depends: gcc-4.9-base (= 4.9.2-10ubuntu13) but 4.9.3-0ubuntu4 is to be installed "
[19:26] <TJ-> CIclops: it looks as if one or more of those packages listed there didn't come from the main archives, but from a PPA/3rd party, and that/those are preventing the upgrade
[19:27] <CIclops> TJ- it's possible
[19:28] <Papfox> start_user500, Have you read this? https://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Printer_Sharing
[19:29] <CIclops> TJ-, is there a way to force it to use the main one?
[19:30] <start_user500> Papfox: ooh so the secondary could be the fax
[19:31] <TJ-> CIclops: you'll need to identify the packages coming from the PPA, and remove or manually update those to the packages from the Ubuntu archive first
[19:31] <start_user500> Papfox: maybe is working ! :O
[19:31] <start_user500> Papfox: let's see
[19:32] <TJ-> start_user500: from what I read the canon driver (on CUPS) would need to use a BJP protocol driver to talk to the printer
[19:32] <CIclops> TJ-, how do i manually update specific packages?
[19:33] <Surendil> CIclops, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should update all package
[19:34] <Surendil> CIclops, to upgrade one package just apt-get install package, if it's installed and there's and update, it will update the package
[19:35] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- seems superslow... let's see what she's printing
[19:36] <Papfox> start_user500, It's probably not going to be stellar fast. A router doesn't have the most meaty CPU in it.
[19:36] <TJ-> CIclops: for all those packages listed, do "apt-cache policy <packagename>" and see where the installed version comes from. If not from the archive.ubuntu.com repos, then that package likely came from a 3rd party repository. Once you have a definite list of packages from 3rd party repos, you can work through them to find out why they are there, and whether it is safe to remove them.
[19:36] <start_user500> Papfox: i see :o
[19:36] <start_user500> Papfox: but router cpu % is 0
[19:37] <start_user500> Papfox: also it's written that p910nd is done for configs who has not so much storage space
[19:37] <start_user500> Papfox: it should just forward
[19:37] <TJ-> start_user500: it should just be doing passthrough from the network socket to the USB device node
[19:37] <start_user500> TJ-: it is indeed
[19:38] <start_user500> seemingly she printed the test page
[19:38] <start_user500> i will not dare to print photos with that lol
[19:38] <CIclops> TJ-, thanks, now I have a plan!
[19:38] <poolq> i am lazy what is the offtopic channel?
[19:38] <Papfox> start_user500, I'm just saying don't expect too much from a small, single board device that's number one priority is going to be switching the packets for the network.
[19:39] <start_user500> Papfox: i see :D
[19:39] <Bashing-om> poolq: ubuntu-offtopic
[19:40] <Papfox> start_user500, Like my QNAPdedicated NAS always performs better than plugging a USB drive into my Netgear router.
[19:40] <poolq> thanks
[19:40] <marek__> Hello. I get greeter screen, but cannot login to gui in VM (qemu) after installing nvidia-352 for graphics card that's assigned to guest with pci passthrough (lspci shows it right, with correct driver). Where should I look for help? Here? #nvidia? #qemu?
[19:40] <start_user500> Papfox: that's obvious but maybe i expected a more normal printing speed
[19:41] <Papfox> start_user500, How bad is it?
[19:41] <start_user500> like 3 min for a page
[19:41] <TJ-> CIclops: from my checks so far it looks as if "libstdc++6" is from Vivd (15.04) not Trusty (14.04)
[19:42] <start_user500> no maybe a bit better... hmm i need some page for test
[19:42] <marek__> My problem looks exactly like widely described problem with .Xauthority wrong ownership. But mine is good.
[19:43] <Papfox> marek__, Where does it go wrong? Can you type the username and password or does it fai after you hit enter?
[19:43] <marek__> Papfox: It fails after I type password, and hit enter.
[19:44] <marek__> Papfox: Just blinking black screen and comming back to login greeter
[19:44] <Papfox> marek__, Can you ssh into the VM from the host?
[19:44] <TJ-> marek__: use a VT console log-in (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and check $HOME/.xsession-errors after it fails, see if there are any clues left behind
[19:44] <start_user500> Papfox: maybe it could be the fact i'm connected in wifi but i gave text only to write
[19:45] <marek__> Papfox: basically "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[19:45] <marek__> Papfox: I'll try to ssh co I can paste full log
[19:46] <start_user500> Papfox: like i could consider a dedicated print server lol
[19:46] <sambagirl> what is ubuntu low letency?
[19:47] <Papfox> marek__, SOunds like it's having a problem finding the nvidia GLX. That's probably a misconfigured xconfig or missing package
[19:47] <marek__> Papfox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600143/
[19:48] <Papfox> sambagirl, I don't know but it sounds like the kind of thing someone would call a build of Ubuntu with a real-time kernel.
[19:49] <marek__> Papfox: I've checked all nvidia and nouveau related packages. All are the same, what another installation (not in VM) that works fine displaying on both NVidia heads and iGPU.
[19:50] <TJ-> marek__: check the VM's /var/log/Xorg.0.log - it looks like the 3D acceleration isn't there, which could be due to "nomodeset" type issues
[19:51] <Papfox> marek__, What is the output of sudo dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[19:51] <TJ-> marek__: and what hypervisor is it doing the passthrough, qemu-kvm ?
[19:52] <marek__> Papfox: that's dpkg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600180/
[19:53] <marek__> TJ: yes. kvm
[19:54] <Papfox> marek__, Have you checked the host machine's BIOS to make sure that Intel VT-D or the equivalent for AMD if it's an AMD machine is enabled. A couple of our machines we made into appliances at work came out the box with the Virtualisation turned on but the device passthrough disabled.
[19:54] <TJ-> marek__: are you sure the *host* driver hasn't claimed the GPU (nouveau or nvidia) ?
[19:54] <CIclops> TJ-,  yes that seems to be the odd one out
[19:55] <start_user500> Papfox: perfect i will clean a second my router setup so :)
[19:55] <marek__> TJ: here is Xorg.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600202/
[19:55] <TJ-> CIclops: does "apt-cache policy libstdc++6" show where it was installed from?
[19:56] <Papfox> start_user500, Well done :)
[19:56] <marek__> Papfox: I did check VT-D that couple of times. All virtualization is on in BIOS.
[19:56] <ioria> CIclops, did you solve ?
[19:56] <TJ-> sambagirl: -lowlatency is pre-emptive multi-tasking, as opposed to cooperative multitasking in -generic
[19:56] <CIclops> TJ-, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:56] <marek__> Papfox: Would GPU be visible in guest if VT-d would be off?
[19:56] <Seminarian> Hey guys I've got a laptop 2ghZ, 2gb ram, Nvidia card 512MB.. I wonder if I should install Ubuntu or Xubuntu. What do you think?
[19:57] <Papfox> marek__, We have one model of machine (an HP) than randomly buy infrequently turns it off all on its own.
[19:57] <TJ-> CIclops: so, it could have come in via you having the Vivid LTS enablement stack ?
[19:57] <TJ-> CIclops: what does "dpkg -l '*lts-' " report ?
[19:57] <CIclops> TJ-, yes I seem to recall it may have
[19:57] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- thank you for the help :)
[19:58] <Papfox> Seminarian, You can always install ubuntu then, if the performance stinks add the package xubuntu-desktop and you can then select which you want whenever you log in.
[19:58] <TJ-> sambagirl: -generic is more suitable for servers, -lowlatency for desktops
[19:58] <marek__> TJ:  GPU is claimed by vfio-pci and audio by pci-stub (http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600218/)
[19:58] <Papfox> start_user500, You are welcome. I hope it works well for you.
[19:58] <Seminarian> Papfox: Okay ty, and I suppose for gaming it's best to use xfce?
[19:58] <Seminarian> Papfox: To have best performance
[19:59] <TJ-> marek__: So that seems good. So, back to looking at the guest's /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:59] <Papfox> Seminarian, You may want to give lubuntu a spin too and see which you like best (package lubuntu-desktop)
[20:00] <Seminarian> Papfox: I thought xubuntu was the most lightweight desktop environment? I'll check lubuntu out
[20:01] <DirtyCajun> Seminarian: the lightest desktop is the one you install the least packages to.
[20:01] <marek__> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600202/ - that's Xorg.0.log
[20:01] <CIclops> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600254/
[20:01] <Seminarian> "Xfce is a free & open source desktop environment for Unix-like platforms, unlike LXDE, Xfce is not a “very very lightweight” GUI, but it focuses on being as much lightweight as possible plus keeping the nice visual appearance" -> Oh i learned something new
[20:02] <Seminarian> DirtyCajun: okay, for example what packages would that be?
[20:03] <DirtyCajun> Seminarian: Some of the flavors have minimal isos that allow you to start from scratch and only install as you need.
[20:03] <TJ-> marek__: !! you've got 2 GPUs there, and it's binding to the VGA one with the VESA driver
[20:03] <DirtyCajun> its more work but ground up gives you the most control/least bloat
[20:03] <TJ-> marek__: maybe you should disable the default -vga device in the qemu guest config
[20:04] <mcphail> TJ-: not sure you're correct on those multitasking models...
[20:04] <Papfox> Seminarian, I'm not the best person to pass comment on that. We used Lubuntu in a VM appliance we built at work but I have a leaves-skidmarks-on-the-desk gaming laptop so I've always run full-fat ubuntu with all the eyecandy turned on and not worried about how much of the machine it was hogging.
[20:04] <Seminarian> DirtyCajun: ok sounds interesting, those packages u refer to are that f.e. file explorers?
[20:04] <marek__> TJ-: Ok. Give me sec.
[20:04] <Seminarian> Papfox: cool mate, do you play only games developed for linux or do you play games using wine as well?
[20:05] <DirtyCajun> there are tons of ease of access etc programs. file explorers way to many things to name
[20:05] <DirtyCajun> Seminarian: http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/
[20:05] <DirtyCajun> thats an example
[20:06] <Papfox> Seminarian, I'm did play games in Steam on Linux on my old machine but the new one has a Linux problem and keeps crashing so my gaming is back in Windows until I get that solved.
[20:06] <TJ-> mcphail: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600292/
[20:06] <yqy> hy there
[20:06] <Surendil> Papfox, check out freeciv-client-gtk, best strategy game ever
[20:07] <Seminarian> DirtyCajun: thanks, awesome might give that one a try using networkboot
[20:07] <Seminarian> Papfox: okay cheers mate
[20:08] <Papfox> Does anyone here have experience of tracking down and solving kernel panics please?
[20:09] <mcphail> TJ-: yep, but the different preemption models don't == cooperative multitasking vs preemption
[20:09] <marek__> TJ-: any idea how to find guest's IP? I have no video on NVidia, and no VNC as I have removed other VGA.
[20:09] <start_user500> thank you so much guys
[20:09] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- : maybe you have also an idea how to rollback apt-get to it's sources.list? i wanna get rid of backports..
[20:10] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- : my kernel should be 3.04 instead is bringed up to 3.19
[20:10] <marek__> TJ-: anyway I think guest is frozen. Doesn't react to 'virsh shutdown'
[20:11] <Papfox> start_user500, Sorry, I've not tried to do that. 3.19 is the current kernel in the repositories. If you've ticked "install updates while installing" or run update then you will have 3.19
[20:13] <pouet12345> hello
[20:13] <pouet12345> where are stored the deja dup settings ?
[20:13] <adoniscik> could someone help me troubleshoot totem in 14.04? something happened after i installed cuda and now nothing is playing. vlc still works though. what packages might be missing?
[20:14] <adoniscik> i forgot to mention: the problem is segmentation faults
[20:14] <start_user500> Papfox: i see so in order to keep using the 3.14 i have not to tick that button in the install, remove the backports and then start updating ubuntu right?
[20:15] <Papfox> start_user500, Is there any particular reason you don't want to run the latest kernel?
[20:16] <start_user500> Papfox: i would like to use only the stable channel
[20:16] <start_user500> not only the kernel
[20:16] <start_user500> just stay on stable all the time, i no need new features, just the security patches
[20:16] <nicomachus> 3.13 isn't stable enough for you?
[20:17] <eragera> nicomachus, M8!
[20:17] <Papfox> start_user500, If you haven't enabled the backports or proposed software sources then I could consider that you do have what Ubuntu considers to be the latest stable system.
[20:17] <nicomachus> eragera: I do have an M8, how'd you know?
[20:17] <eragera> ...
[20:17] <nicomachus> lol
[20:17] <eragera> Did you find a solution to my problem? Unfortunately, it was 3AM at the time so I had to go to bed
[20:18] <eragera> I solved it somewhat by switching the audiosink from Automatic to ALSA
[20:18] <start_user500> Papfox: i know but for some unknown reasons ubuntu installer ticks automatcly backports
[20:18] <nicomachus> stuttering audio, right? I didn't, but a new version of PulseAudio was just released today, so hopefully there will be a fix by the time 16.04 is released.
[20:18] <start_user500> Papfox: that's why i have new kernel and stuff
[20:18] <Ben64> start_user500: backports are stable
[20:18] <eragera> I still get stutters sometimes
[20:18] <eragera> but not as much
[20:18] <start_user500> Ben64: on ubuntu specifications they say them are untested
[20:19] <start_user500> Ben64: i'm searching the stability a bit more debian like
[20:19] <CIclops> TJ-,  how can I fix that one package?
[20:19] <start_user500> Ben64: more paranoid one :D
[20:19] <Ben64> start_user500: backports doesn't give you a new kernel anyway
[20:20] <start_user500> Ben64: it does
[20:20] <Ben64> nope
[20:20] <start_user500> Ben64: i have no idea why but i have 3.19
[20:20] <start_user500> Ben64: should be 3.04
[20:20] <Ben64> shouldn't be 3.04
[20:20] <Bashing-om> !hwe | start_user500
[20:20] <Papfox> start_user500, You may be able to remove it. Alternatively, do a reinstall, don't tick "install updates while installing" then disable that source before you run update the first time. I don't see a problem with backports though. As far as I'm aware, they are important things that are in newer releases rather than new features.
[20:20] <ahmed> hi
[20:21] <Ben64> if you actually look at the backports repository, you'll see theres not a whole lot there, there is no reason to disable it
[20:21] <ioria> CIclops, on trusty vivid stack you should have anyway 4.9.3 not 4.9.2
[20:21] <start_user500> Ben64: i will read it :)
[20:21] <nicomachus> eragera: if you really want to eliminate it, you can try to replace PulseAudio with a different sound handler. But it's not really something that is supported here, and it will be a lot more work to configure. Alternatives are JACK, apulse, etc...
[20:21] <ioria> CIclops, i think is a ppa issue
[20:21] <nicomachus> eragera: but that is ONLY if you are comfortable with getting deep into the weeds on configuring and learning about those.
[20:22] <eragera> I have Jack, I think
[20:22] <CIclops> ioria, TJ thinks it is one package that came from Vivid
[20:23] <eragera> nicomachus, Im comfortable with doing anything to fix my audio, but in 10 mins. Im helping my friend install Xubuntu onto his PC
[20:23] <nicomachus> eragera: well it's not something I can help with, because I've never used anything besides Pulse.
[20:23] <ioria> CIclops, i have on another machine lubuntu with vivid stack and ggc-base is 4.9.3
[20:23] <eragera> Oh...
[20:23] <eragera> Damn...
[20:24] <eragera> Well then.
[20:24] <Guest7> I installed nvidia-cuda-toolkit and nvidia-modprobe and now I cant boot into the gui. my pc is beeping continuously. wondering if anyone had any idea whats going on?
[20:24] <eragera> Ill be hopping onto Xubuntu LTS soon enough as well
[20:24] <Papfox> start_user500, If you type apt-cache showpkg linux-image-3.19.0-47-generic
[20:24] <nicomachus> Guest7: beeping... like from the motherboard itself? those are usually error codes that are specific to the mobo and you'll have to look them up
[20:24] <Papfox> start_user500, You will see where it came from. It looks like the security repo, not backports
[20:25] <Guest7> also getting "init: failsafe-x main process (1898) terminated with status 1"
[20:26] <nicomachus> Guest7: perhaps this can help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/227227/i-broke-x-probably-by-installing-a-proprietary-nvidia-driver-how-can-i-get-my
[20:26] <CIclops> ioria, how can I fix it?
[20:27] <ioria> CIclops, i think is a ppa issue , again :)
[20:29] <Guest7> nicomachus: thanks for that, will try it out.
[20:29] <ioria> CIclops,  try again apt-cache policy   gcc-4.9-base
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  do you have a lot of ppa's ?
[20:31] <CIclops> MonkeyDust,  4 or 5
[20:31] <ioria> CIclops,  also  apt-cache policy  gcc-4.9-base:i386
[20:33] <alimj> Question: What is the recommended password manager to use with Ubuntu? I will need online access and sync with my local system. (and it should be obviously open source)
[20:34] <ioria> sea... something
[20:34] <alimj> KeePas?
[20:34] <CIclops> ioria, both have gcc-4.9-base:i386 installed and 4.9.3-0ubuntu4 as candidate
[20:34] <ioria> seahorse
[20:34] <Guest72178> Hi there, what ip address is an ubuntu machine assigned on choosing link locally under network manager ?
[20:35] <nicomachus> Guest72178: depends on the network. use "ifconfig"
[20:35] <ahmed> hi
[20:35] <ioria> CIclops,  can you paste ?
[20:35] <ahmed> what
[20:35] <CIclops> ioria,  correction: Installed: 4.9.2-10ubuntu13  Candidate: 4.9.3-0ubuntu4
[20:35] <eragera> nicomachus, Do you know how to mount ntfs partitions?
[20:35] <ioria> CIclops,  we need the origin of the pkg
[20:35] <eragera> Xubuntu refuses to mount them
[20:35] <CIclops> looks the same .... will paste
[20:35] <nicomachus> eragera: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[20:35] <Guest7> nicomachus: removing all traces of nvidia got me back into the gui. Will upgrade to 15.04 and see if nvidia and cuda can be installed without issues and work with my GTX980.
[20:36] <eragera> ty
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  usually 169.254.x.x, i guess
[20:36] <nicomachus> Guest7: what are you on now? 14.04?
[20:36] <CIclops> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600622/
[20:36] <Guest7> nicomachus: yes.
[20:36] <Guest7> wanted to go from LTS to LTS.
[20:36] <nicomachus> Guest7: shouldn't need to upgrade.
[20:37] <nicomachus> Guest7: 15.04 is not LTS. it goes out-of-support in 13 days.
[20:37] <nicomachus> next LTS is 16.04
[20:37] <ioria> CIclops,  looks ok
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Release 15.04 goes EOL Feb4 .
[20:37] <DirtyCajun> th^
[20:37] <ioria> CIclops,  uname -r ?
[20:37] <welovfree> Hi guys
[20:37] <Guest7> nicomachus: yes i know, but was tihnking 15 may have support for the gtx980 in some way 14 doesnt
[20:37] <orfeo> Hello folks!
[20:38] <CIclops> ioria, 3.13.0-74-generic
[20:38] <Guest72178> nicomachus: I am wanting to assign ip address to my two ubuntu PCs so that I can ping eachother via a ethernet cable connected directly to each other
[20:38] <nicomachus> Guest7: There are other guys in here with better Nvidia knowledge than I, but what driver options do you show in the "Additional Drivers" menu?
[20:38] <ioria> CIclops, that's not the vivid stack :þ
[20:38] <welovfree> is there a way to make Ubuntu look like Kubuntu's flat look?
[20:38] <Guest7> what is the best method of installing the latest nvidia driver and cuda?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  what's the ip address of your router?
[20:38] <nicomachus> welovfree: you can install kde.
[20:38] <CIclops> ioria, true ;
[20:38] <eragera> nicomachus, that guide is for already installed systems. I want to access it through the LiveUSB environment since my friend doesnt not know which partition is the C:\ partition
[20:38] <nys-> !facts
[20:38] <ioria> CIclops,  you are on an old version of trusty
[20:39] <orfeo> How do I install a VPN Server?
[20:39] <CIclops> ioria, AFAIK current version
[20:39] <eragera> Well he just gave me the aok to the risk of losing data but
[20:39] <nicomachus> eragera: ah. here you go: https://askubuntu.com/questions/186791/how-to-access-files-in-windows-partition-from-ubuntu-live-usb
[20:39] <eragera> ty
[20:39] <ioria> CIclops,   i meant PointReleae
[20:39] <ioria> CIclops,   i meant Point Release
[20:39] <welovfree> nicomachus, how?
[20:39] <nicomachus> rather old, but instructions should be the same.
[20:39] <Guest7> nicomachus: i get nvidia ver 352.63 propietary, tested
[20:40] <nicomachus> welovfree: didn't you remove KDE a few hours ago?
[20:40] <DirtyCajun> so if i type \\server into my windows computer it will bring up my server. but under network it doesnt show until after i type it and only stays for a while. why isnt samba announcing itself to the network?
[20:40] <welovfree> nicomachus, no?!
[20:40] <ioria> CIclops,   if you install trusty today you'll have 3.19 kernel
[20:40] <Guest72178> nicomachus: I am wanting to assign ip address to my two ubuntu PCs so that I can ping eachother via a ethernet cable connected directly to each other
[20:40] <Guest72178> nicomachus: will link only connection do my job ?
[20:40] <nicomachus> welovfree: ah must have been someone else... here's the wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[20:41] <Cyber_Akuma> Would ubuntu load faster if I installed it on a 5400rpm laptop drive, or a usb 3.0 flashdrive?
[20:41] <eragera> Ill have to edit the fstab one way or the other?
[20:41] <eragera> well that sucks
[20:41] <CIclops> ioria, ok i see ... i installed trusty in 2014 ... kernel stays 3.13 plus patches
[20:41] <ioria> CIclops,   it's ok...
[20:41] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Nvidia recommend the 352 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/95159/en-us. Available in 14.04's repo .
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  what's the ip address of your router? your other machines should be in the same scope ... type arp -a ... does it say 192.168.x.x somewhere?
[20:41] <welovfree> nicomachus, and everything is gonna be just like Kuntuntu
[20:42] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: I am not connected via a router
[20:42] <nicomachus> welovfree: should be.
[20:42] <Surendil> Guest72178, if there's no router assigning ip by dhcp, then you can use: sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0...... on each host
[20:42] <welovfree> nicomachus, Thank you
[20:42] <cpmx> Guest72178, don’t you need a crossover cable
[20:42] <Guest72178> Surendil: Ok, should I need to specify any gateway ?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  wgat kind of connection is it? 3G? wifi?
[20:42] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: ethernet connection LAN
[20:43] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: just connecting two ends of ethernet cable.
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  ok, type   ip route ... what's the address of eth
[20:43] <Surendil> Guest72178, not necessarily
[20:43] <Guest72178> Will link local option in networkmanager assign an ip itself to both ?
[20:44] <Guest7> Bashing-om: so i have the best driver version then.
[20:44] <Guest7> The issue is with cuda. When i installed cuda i was unable to boot
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  ifconfig ... what does it say
[20:46] <ioria> CIclops,   no, it's not ok ... also on 3.16 gcc-4.9-base is 4.9.3
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  how are you connected to the internet, how are you here
[20:46] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: I haven't connected the ethernet cable.. I was just imagining the condition.
[20:46] <ioria> CIclops,   3.1sorry,  gcc-4.9-base is 4.9.3
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Debateable ... I have seen reports where 352 is "not so stable" . If it works great ! if not see what the system can find from terminal command : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' to see all available drivers.
[20:46] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: I don't have another machine but I was thinking if link local will do the job or not.. thats all.
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  it's not a real situation?
[20:47] <ioria> CIclops,   i mean on 3.13 you should have 4.9.3
[20:47] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: naaa, if it was I would have tried that link locally option and see the result.
[20:47] <CIclops> ioria, i found why i used a vivid package, ( Qt5WebSockets) i compiled it to make a program that i no longer use
[20:47] <ioria> CIclops,  omg :)
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Does the cuda version match the Nvidia driver version ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? .. and there is no other driver install conflicts ?
[20:49] <Seminarian> What hardware diagnostic live cd/dvd would you guys recommend?
[20:49] <genii> UBCD
[20:49] <genii> !ubcd
[20:49] <genii> Hm
[20:49] <Guest7> Bashing-om: i installed cuda by apt-get install nvidia-modprobe, nvidia-cuda-toolkit. is that the correct way to do it?
[20:50] <genii> Seminarian: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[20:50] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: are you connected ?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit trusty
[20:51] <Seminarian> You guys are likeminded, ultimate boot cd it is! thx
[20:51] <CIclops> ioria, it's libqt5websockets5-dev --- should be safe to remove that  package?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> Guest7: I do not have experience with cuda, I may not be the best person to ask . Does your installed version match ^^ ?
[20:52] <ioria> CIclops,  install ppa is at your risk but compile and install other stuff is very risky
[20:52] <ioria> yes
[20:52] <Guest7> Bashing-om: k will try again now just with nvidia-cuda-toolkit..  I since removed all traces of nvidia to be able to boot. All back to normal now minus cuda. will try again.
[20:52] <Gloomy> Hi
[20:52] <ioria> !info libqt5websockets5-dev
[20:53] <Guest7> what does nvidia-modprobe do?
[20:53] <Gloomy> any *easy* way to connect a mac to a ubuntu laptop on the same network for transfering some files?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Guest7: K. Did you do " apt-get purge --remove nvidia* " ?
[20:53] <ioria> CIclops,  usually the -dev pkgs are not critic...
[20:54] <Guest7> Bashing-om: yes.
[20:55] <eragera> nicomachus, You there?
[20:56] <elijah> What is it called when you press the alt key, the menu appears and then one letter in each menu item is underlined, and if you then press that letter, it selects the menu item. I feel like it is mnemonics but need to know for sure (so I can search for stuff)
[20:56] <ioria> CIclops,  but how did you install it  ? because it's not for trusty ... did you add a vivid repos in sources.list or downloaded a .deb pkg  ?
[20:56] <eragera> One of my other friends who wanted to make a liveUSB with persistence has presented a case to me. He asked "What would happen if.. say... I accidently removed my USB from the system while the LiveUSB environment is running?"
[20:57] <Bashing-om> Guest7: "  nvidia-modprobe do " forces the loading/reloading of the Nvidia module .. correct syntax ' sudo modprobe nvidia ' .. not a package, but a system command .
[20:57] <nicomachus> eragera: well... don't. but I presume it would crash the system. I've never done it.
[20:57] <obiwahn> hi there
[20:57] <eragera> It would crash the system yes, but
[20:57] <eragera> would it also kill the laptop?
[20:58] <ioria> CIclops,  but if you have the -dev pkg, you have also the libqt5websockets5 pkg , remove it too
[20:58] <obiwahn> can anyone help me installing a g++-6?
[20:58] <nicomachus> eragera: if you had filesystems mounted... it could corrupt them. best to just not do that.
[20:58] <eragera> Yea, that's what I thought
[20:58] <eragera> I spent 4 hours helping this guy
[20:58] <eragera> and now he pussies out
[20:58] <eragera> saying "I dont wanna risk it"
[20:58] <nicomachus> language...
[20:58] <eragera> Im sorry
[20:59] <eragera> Im just so annoyed
[20:59] <Finetundra> Can someone help me with using a netgear Wnda3100v2 on mint?
[20:59] <eragera> But atleast my Indian Friend didnt betray me!
[20:59] <nicomachus> !mint | Finetundra
[20:59] <eragera> He said 'I dont care if I lose my data'
[20:59] <eragera> 'just speed up my PC'
[20:59] <Finetundra> fine then do it for ubuntu
[20:59] <nicomachus> eragera: keep it on-topic in here please.
[20:59] <mcphail> obiwahn: no - g++6 isn't supported
[20:59] <eragera> Im sorry
[20:59] <nicomachus> Finetundra: are you using ubuntu or Mint?
[20:59] <eragera> Ill leave now~
[20:59] <Finetundra> nicomachus: ubuntu
[21:00] <Finetundra> want proof?
[21:00] <nicomachus> Finetundra: paste the output of "lsb_release -a" please, then, and "uname -r"
[21:00] <obiwahn> there must be some ppa
[21:01] <mcphail> obiwahn: maybe, but unsupported here
[21:01] <obiwahn> like hum - hom - here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-6/
[21:01] <obiwahn> so that is  not ubuntu?
[21:01] <loubia> Since 14.04, 'apt' can do what  apt-get and apt-cache do. Can apt do the task of 'add-apt-repository', too?
[21:01] <Finetundra> lsb_release -a returns: no lsb modules are available
[21:01] <mcphail> obiwahn: no - ppa's are not supported here
[21:01] <mcphail> !ppa | obiwahn
[21:01] <k1l_> Finetundra: what is "lsb_release -d"?
[21:01] <obiwahn> so how do i build it form source
[21:02] <narcos> Hi all. I'm setting up VNC to fire up a browser when connecting to the box, but upon disconnect/reconnect I'd like to restart the browser
[21:02] <narcos> Is there a way to restart the VNC session automatically?
[21:02] <obiwahn> is that possible in your awesome distribution or is it unsupported as well
[21:02] <k1l_> Finetundra: but as you were told before: mint support is in the mint channels. thanks
[21:02] <Finetundra> k1l_: lsb_release -d
[21:02] <Finetundra> oops, hang on
[21:03] <Finetundra> k1l_: Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[21:03] <obiwahn> and i have no problem wiht a certain ppa
[21:03] <nicomachus> Finetundra: and "uname -r"?
[21:03] <obiwahn> it seems that i do not really know how that apt extension works
[21:04] <obiwahn> and that is part of ubuntu if you like it or not
[21:04] <Finetundra> nicomachus: 3.19.0-32-generic
[21:04] <obiwahn> maybe you should use vanilla debian like i do
[21:04] <Ben64> obiwahn: only the official ubuntu repositories are supported in this channel. you're free to add any ppa or whatever you want, but it isn't supported here
[21:04] <obiwahn> so how does that work
[21:04] <mcphail> obiwahn: you are welcome to install from a ppa or build from source, but you're on your own if/when something breaks. And installing a later version of g++ (especially if you need to update libstdc++ along with it) is an easy way to break your system
[21:05] <dlam> is there a way to do `dpkg -L package-to-see-where-it-install-stuff` but for a *non* installed package?
[21:05] <Guest7> Ok I just installed Cuda again and now get constant pc beeping and no boot. I restart and set the nomodeset bootflag and I can get to the login screen. I try to login but get a login loop, screen flash then login screen again. Only removing cuda will return my system to normal. Anyone have a gtx980 and cuda installed?
[21:05] <k1l_> Finetundra: like told before: go to the mint channels they are set autostart on your mint. thanks
[21:05] <dlam> like im trying to find out where 'python-django-celery' installs stuff
[21:05] <obiwahn> i don't really care if anything breaks
[21:05] <Ben64> dlam: you can download and extract the package
[21:05] <obiwahn> i just want to use a newer gcc in a travis vm
[21:05] <Ben64> obiwahn: then go for it
[21:06] <dlam> Ben64: ohh cool is there a apt-get way to download it or something?  i guess i'd go google it
[21:06] <CIclops> ioria, removed with synaptic,  skype install failed lol ... i am going to logout, thanks for helping!
[21:06] <Ben64> dlam: apt-get download <package>
[21:07] <ioria> CIclops,  you need to reinstall the gcc-4.9base
[21:07] <dlam> ahh thanks thanks
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Maybe, boot up normally ( without nomodeset) and look at the log file " /var/log/Xorg.0.log " for hints where the failure accurs ?
[21:07] <obiwahn> Ben64: http://paste.debian.net/367321/
[21:08] <obiwahn> i did something like that
[21:08] <CIclops> ioria, how?
[21:08] <Guest7> Bashing-om: i get constant pc beeping and blank screen without that flag.
[21:08] <ioria> CIclops, gcc-4.9-base still 4.9.2 ?
[21:10] <obiwahn> https://travis-ci.org/ObiWahn/libobi/builds/104159621 and it results in this
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Ouch ! Wont even boot up with the cuda-toolkit installed . Will have to get real inventive to find the cause .
[21:10] <obiwahn>  sudo apt-get -y install 'cmake-data' 'cmake' 'g++-6'
[21:10] <obiwahn> Note, selecting 'libopencascade-modeling-6.5.0' for regex 'g++-6'
[21:10] <CIclops> iorai, yes synaptic has marked it for upgrade ... should I?
[21:10] <obiwahn> which is not what i want
[21:10] <ioria> CIclops, yes
[21:10] <obiwahn> how do i find out for what releases the ppa offers the g++-6 package
[21:13] <rjb> hi experts, i need your help to configure ldap client ubuntu 14.04 64 bits
[21:13] <k1l_> obiwahn: on the ppa website on launchpad you can filter for releases
[21:13] <obiwahn> i just do not understand why the travis guys choose ubuntu with a debian sid and a bit experimental pinning this would be so much easier
[21:14] <CIclops> ioria, ok back later .. ciao :)
[21:14] <obiwahn> k1l_: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test this page?
[21:14] <ioria> CIclops,  ok
[21:14] <obiwahn> there is a drop down menu
[21:15] <Zedim> hi
[21:15] <obiwahn> lol you should not use irc as root
[21:15] <k1l_> obiwahn: i dont understand messed up system you got there naming ubuntu and debian sid etc.
[21:16] <Seminarian> Mehh, I want to write an ISO from a cd to a dvd but nero burning rom won't let me. Is it possible with other software?
[21:16] <nicomachus> Brasero
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Guest7: The info I find on cuda is seriously out-of-date . I recon it will take someone here with current experience with cuda to assist .
[21:17] <obiwahn> is there anyone willing to help me or do i have to intall ubuntu in a vm and try myself? because at the moment i need to do a commit and wait 3minutes for travis
[21:17] <Guest7> Bashing-om: no worries, I appreciate your help. I will keep bashing away. Thanks a lot.
[21:19] <rjb> can you help to get an Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits machine working with a ldap server?
[21:21] <mcphail> !ldap | rjb
[21:21] <mcphail> rjb: does that help?
[21:21] <obiwahn> !apt-get moo
[21:21] <mcphail> rjb: looks quite old and more concerned with server side...
[21:22] <codinho> wtf, guys, just updated and have a low resolution with intel gpu on 4770
[21:23] <codinho> *intel 4770*
[21:23] <codinho> gpu
[21:23] <xangua> ! Language | codinho
[21:23] <codinho> xangua, ?
[21:23] <rjb> mcphail i need help with the client side
[21:24] <obiwahn> how do i find out what packages a ppa provides>
[21:24] <rjb> mcphail: i was reading http://www.unixmen.com/configure-linux-clients-to-authenticate-using-openldap/ but i cant make it works
[21:26] <OerHeks> obiwahn, see the list on launchpad, or when installed, synaptic can show that details too
[21:26] <mcphail> rjb: there is a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication , but, again, that looks rather old
[21:27] <mcphail> rjb: It isn't anything I have tried, but perhaps someone else on here can help?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Still looking and found : http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/#axzz3y0j6GPQn ... Where Nvidia recommends " sudo apt-get install cuda " ??
[21:30] <Craigwell> I have hibernate enabled in menu, and edited fstab to match uuid, but it's not working on boot..
[21:30] <obiwahn> which list?
[21:30] <obiwahn> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[21:30] <Craigwell> can anyone help?
[21:30] <obiwahn> this?
[21:30] <Guest7> Bashing-om: hmm I will read that now
[21:30] <pendulum_> hello there, I got this error while running upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14601191/
[21:30] <rjb> please anyone else with experience with ldap configuration, client side?
[21:30] <Guest7> Bashing-om: thanks!
[21:30] <pendulum_> I tried twice
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Operating system BY choice, when it should work, and does not - I want to know the why .
[21:31] <Craigwell> thinking something is incorrect in fstab, but not sure what else to do
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> rjb  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[21:31] <k1l_> obiwahn: you even said there is a dropdown menu yourself. so what is the issue? i dont understand what you are asking at all
[21:32] <obiwahn> so i guess gcc should be provided
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> rjb  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntu-server
[21:32] <obiwahn> it is even in the pool
[21:32] <akik> rjb: i have but on a red hat system
[21:32] <k1l_> obiwahn: like: choose your release in the dropdown menu and see what packages the PPA contains for you
[21:33] <obiwahn> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-6/
[21:33] <obiwahn> but why does the install fail?
[21:33] <k1l_> obiwahn: did you read what i wrote?
[21:33] <rjb> akik i followed this guide but it doesnt work yet http://www.unixmen.com/configure-linux-clients-to-authenticate-using-openldap/
[21:34] <akik> rjb: are you able to query the directory with ldapsearch?
[21:34] <rjb> akik: sorry how can i do that?
[21:34] <obiwahn> k1l_: yes and i changed the brower:)
[21:34] <obiwahn> and i see what you mean
[21:35] <akik> rjb: it's quite complicated. do you have a user account in the ldap you're trying to use?
[21:35] <obiwahn> so it is not availalbe for my release
[21:35] <obiwahn> is there a way to force it in?
[21:35] <k1l_> obiwahn: so you have your reason now why the install fails.
[21:35] <obiwahn> yes awesome!
[21:35] <k1l_> obiwahn: no. get a PPA that got one for your release (whatever your release is)
[21:35] <rjb> akik: yes i have
[21:36] <rjb> akik: i am installing ldap-utils
[21:36] <obiwahn> i probaly just have to add the file in the soruces list and change /etc/release and be good
[21:36] <akik> rjb: here's a rough example "ldapsearch -x -h ldap_server -b "base_dn" -D "bind_dn" -W '(filter)'"
[21:36] <k1l_> obiwahn: what is your release?
[21:37] <obiwahn> precise
[21:38] <akik> rjb: but then if it only serves a secured connection, you might need a certificate for access
[21:38] <Surendil> obiwahn, lsb_realease -a or cat /etc/issue
[21:38] <Guest7> Bashing-om: do you think I need to install this older version? It explicitly states it supports GTX9XX gpus... https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads-geforce-gtx9xx
[21:38] <obiwahn> that is the travis default vm
[21:38] <rjb> akik: it ask me for a ldap password
[21:38] <obiwahn> » cat /etc/issue
[21:38] <obiwahn> Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
[21:39] <Surendil> you are in the wrong channel then
[21:39] <Guest7> Bashing-om: that is ver 6.5, the latest is 7.5
[21:39] <akik> rjb: you got the base_dn and bind_dn right?
[21:39] <obiwahn> no that is my desktop
[21:39] <Craigwell> man oh man
[21:39] <obiwahn> as i said it is just for a build vm
[21:39] <Craigwell> not sure what i have wrong
[21:39] <akik> rjb: bind_dn is a the account you're trying to authenticate with
[21:40] <Craigwell> I've followed a few guides to enable hibernation... swap partition is there. Entry in fstab is there, with uuid from blkid.
[21:40] <k1l_> it will not work on frankenreleases which dont have a proper ubuntu name
[21:40] <marek__> Another problem with kvm. While I can install 15.04 without any problems, when I try to install 15.10 in the same VM, with same setup I get 'Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. Shouldn't it exectue 'grub-install /dev/vda'? How to fix it?
[21:41] <k1l_> obiwahn: and debian doesnt work with PPA
[21:41] <Craigwell> also edited this com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla to change resultactive=yes
[21:41] <rjb> akik: what is base_dn?
[21:41] <akik> rjb: bind_dn can be like "dc=company,dc=com" and then select with "-s sub" to make a subtree search or narrow the base_dn with e.g. "ou=users,dc=company,dc=com"
[21:41] <akik> rjb: sorry base_dn
[21:41] <Craigwell> not getting anywhere. errors out on reboot when i true to boot from hibernation
[21:42] <pendulum_> I tried release upgrade via terminal and got the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14601191/
[21:42] <marek__> in the next dialog, when it asks me for device, I select /dev/vda, click OK, but nothing happends.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Guest7: I am a strong advocate of staying within the release repo . If you are going to stray out of the repo, then be sure you know how to back out of any differing install and how to revert to repo versions.
[21:43] <akik> rjb: there's a java application called jxplorer which you can use to browse a ldap directory
[21:44] <rjb> thank you akik
[21:44] <Guest7> Bashing-om: I dont want to stray from the release repo either. I would love it to just work, but..
[21:45] <Finetundra> can anyone help me install an asus pce-n53 wireless driver on xubuntu? I've tried to build the one they provide but that always results with an error. I also tried ndis wrapper but running sudo modprobe ndiswrapper also returns an error
[21:45] <obiwahn> k1l_: what is wrong with you? i try to install something for ubuntu build vm - all the stuff that i type on my command line is not in that vm
[21:46] <k1l_> obiwahn: is this a  original ubuntu or not?
[21:47] <k1l_> obiwahn: you make a lot of noise (like not finding the drop down menu on the ppa page) and talk about debians and other OS.
[21:47] <obiwahn> the travis vm is a original ubuntu
[21:47] <obiwahn> only that i have no access to it
[21:47] <obiwahn> so i can not try commands like on a real system
[21:47] <obiwahn> it is configured with a file
[21:47] <obiwahn> i put commands i that file
[21:48] <obiwahn> the vm is created
[21:48] <obiwahn> the a few scripts in including my commands run
[21:48] <obiwahn> and when that is over the vm is deleted
[21:48] <obiwahn> travis.com/org
[21:49] <bob2021> can someone help me tell ubuntu to use gestures with my magic trackpad 2?
[21:49] <bob2021> ubuntu thinks its a mouse
[21:49] <OerHeks> so get a supported vm for that ppa, not sure why you want toolchain test packages, as the only new version is 6 for xenial
[21:50] <OerHeks> obiwahn, ^^
[21:50] <obiwahn> lol:) i was just too enraged to type:)
[21:51] <Bashing-om> Guest7: From what I gather ,, make sure that the kernel, GCC, and GLIBC packages support later versions of cuda . IF you stray away from default installs then those packes depending on the default install of the gcc stuff will BREAK .
[21:51] <k1l_> seems like no one cares to make a  gcc-6  for 12.04
[21:51] <bob2021> Guest7: if you want to repeat your question, cuda is the only reason i use ubuntu so i may be able to help
[21:52] <obiwahn> i think i ll try to add it as xenial repo in the sources list and see what happens
[21:52] <Craigwell> is there a way to "refresh" fstab?
[21:52] <Craigwell> I think i have the entry for hibernation incorrect, not sure how to fix
[21:52] <k1l_> Craigwell: run "mount -a" that will re read the fstab
[21:53] <Craigwell> k1l_: I guess I'm trying to revert it back to stock, or fix the hibernation entry
[21:53] <Craigwell> I've tried several tutorials, and something is wrong
[21:53] <OerHeks> obiwahn, hmm with systemD as standard, not sure it will work
[21:53] <Craigwell> I have it enabled in menu, but it wont boot it properly. errors
[21:53] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Guest7 BOB to the recue .. he is sharp !
[21:53] <k1l_> obiwahn: am i right gcc-6 is not even released yet?
[21:54] <OerHeks> k1l_, correct
[21:54] <Guest7> Bashing-om: bob2021: thanks, I did the pre-installation actions.
[21:55] <bob2021> guest7: are you trying to install manually or from aptitude?  what GPU?
[21:55] <bob2021> bashing-om: will you help me fix my touchpad while I fix his GPU?
[21:57] <obiwahn> no it is not
[21:57] <Guest7> bob2021: I am running Ubuntu 14.04.1, I have a i7-870, and a GTX980. I am using the latest 352.63 proprietary / tested driver. All is working fine. When I install nvidia-cuda-toolkit using sudo apt-get install.. I am then unable to boot, get pc beeping.. When I remove cuda all works fine again.
[21:57] <obiwahn> but is has some nice stuff
[21:57] <obiwahn> and i want to have unit tests for that stuff
[21:57] <Guest7> bob2021: sorry for delay was trying to compile my specs and where Im at.
[21:57] <OerHeks> GCC 6 feature development is over and GCC 6.1 should be officially released around March or April.
[21:57] <bob2021> guest7: are you trying to use it for video and cuda at the same time?
[21:58] <obiwahn> OerHeks: mh lets see
[21:58] <k1l_> obiwahn: please read https://gcc.gnu.org/
[21:58] <Guest7> bob2021: not sure what you mean by that. Trying to install cuda to enable gpu rendering in Blender.
[21:58] <obiwahn> why for what?
[21:59] <OerHeks> obiwahn, but you can test with xenial 16.04 alfa, end this month alfa2
[21:59] <bob2021> guest7  - one min, phone
[21:59] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Sure, but my attempts fixing problems with touchpads have been less than stellar .What touchpad, and is the driver installed ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' IF that is the touchpad inuse .
[21:59] <k1l_> obiwahn: because you make a big drama and dont even that its not released yet
[21:59] <k1l_> obiwahn: its just rude!
[21:59] <obiwahn> i want to use it anyway that is not rude
[21:59] <k1l_> *know
[21:59] <Guest7> bob2021: no worries.
[22:00] <bob2021> bashing-om: apple magic trackpad 2, and already installed
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7: first thing you do, is uninstall everything nvidia, nvidia-*, and cuda*, with --purge.  tell ubuntu to not load X at boot.  reboot to command line.
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7: use the nvidia drivers from nvidia's site that you compile, not what's in aptitude.
[22:01] <Guest7> bob2021: the latest cuda toolkit is 7.5 i believe, however I have read and see here that 6.5 supports GTX9XX gpus. Shouldn't the latest 7.5 also support it? https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads-geforce-gtx9xx
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7:  when you reboot into text, first thing is lshw -c video to confirm that the card is recognized and has no driver
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7: I use a 980 with 7.5
[22:01] <OerHeks> obiwahn, grab the daily live build and go have fun with that toolchain ppa http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:02] <Bashing-om> bob2021: K, so what does the system "see" ' /proc/bus/input/devices ' for the device ?
[22:02] <Guest7> ok great, we and in the same boat.. Ok removing nvidia and rebooting. How to boot to cli only?
[22:02] <bob2021> Guest7:  Assuming you see the card on reboot, then compile the drivers from the nvidia website using gcc 4.9. confirm that you see the card with nvidia-smi
[22:02] <obiwahn> OerHeks: i would
[22:02] <obiwahn> but i think i can not select images for travis
[22:03] <obiwahn> https://travis-ci.org/
[22:03] <bob2021> Guest7: Then reboot into text, confirm the driver is being used by modprobe nvidia_352, lshw -c video, nvidia-smi,
[22:03] <bob2021> Guest7: then start X
[22:03] <k1l_> obiwahn: i think you better talk to travis to solve that travis issue
[22:03] <k1l_> bob2021: dont startx. start lightdm
[22:03] <Guest7> bob2021: how to boot into cli only?
[22:04] <bob2021> bashing-om: Which line of input/devices should i be looking at?  The "Handler" is mouse0, the "name" is the name I gave the trackpad, "Amos' Trackpad 1"
[22:04] <obiwahn> k1l_: if you do not have anything clever to say ... you could just say nothing
[22:04] <bob2021> k1l_ yeah that's what i meant
[22:04] <DirtyCajun> so if i type \\server into my windows computer it will bring up my server. but under network it doesnt show until after i type it and only stays for a while. why isnt samba announcing itself to the network?
[22:04] <k1l_> obiwahn: i think you showed enough of your attitude now.
[22:06] <bob2021> Guest7: I forget how you disable lightdm to start at boot, maybe sudo service del lightdm?  but that should be easy for you to google
[22:06] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Beats me .. presently .. I expected something along the lines "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" . // What release are we working with ?
[22:07] <obiwahn> systemctl disable foo.service
[22:07] <bob2021> bashing-om: 15.10
[22:07] <Bashing-om> bob2021: http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 ... pertenant ?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Guest7: At the grub boot menu, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen, arrow down to the line starting with linux and across to "quiet splash". replace these terms with the term "text" without the quotes. key combo crl+x to contine the boot process to TTY1. login here with username and password. No responce to the screen when password is entered.
[22:13] <happenspappens> t
[22:13] <Guest7> Bashing-om: thanks did it.
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Back over to bob2021 .. As i peek over the shoulder .
[22:14] <Guest7> bob2021: "lshw -c video" showed display unclaimed, description vga compatible controller, product nvidia corporation, vendor nvidia ...
[22:15] <Guest7> bob2021: unsure how to now: "compile the drivers from the nvidia website using gcc 4.9"
[22:16] <bob2021> Guest7: download them from the website.  there are instructions.  make sure you're using gcc 4.9
[22:16] <bob2021> bashing-om: huh?
[22:16] <bob2021> was on phone
[22:17] <Bashing-om> !info gcc trusty
[22:17] <Guest7> bob2021: i am in a cli now, how to visit the website?
[22:17] <bob2021> Guest7: i would have done that before i went to the cli.
[22:18] <nicomachus> Guest7: you can use install and use lynx from CLI, IIRC
[22:18] <Guest7> bob2021: my gcc version is 4.8.4
[22:18] <nicomachus> or wget if you already know the link to the download.
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Groundwork . verify the gcc version installed ' gcc --version ' on your system .
[22:19] <bob2021> Guest7: upgrade it to 4.9
[22:20] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Question, if Guest7 upgrades gcc to 4.9, what all is going to break ?
[22:20] <bob2021> bashing-om: probably a lot, but that's not my issue.
[22:21] <Guest7> bob2021: ?
[22:21] <bob2021> Guest7: it'll be self-explanatory
[22:21] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Tour touchpad : http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 . Does the boot parameter do anything for you ?
[22:21] <Guest7> bob2021: so i add "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test" then install gcc-4.9
[22:22] <jdiasd> hello! i need help with ufw -> when i want to connect from my computer which is in one local area to another ufw blocks it. if i disable ufw everything work as expected. here is log: [ 5221.079574] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT=eth1 MAC= SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=127 ID=32289 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=49877 DPT=80 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[22:22] <bob2021> bashing-om: i don't use grub, and boot parameters generally do nothing for me
[22:22] <nicomachus> you don't use grub...?
[22:23] <bob2021> shocking, isn't it
[22:23] <bob2021> :o
[22:23] <dnor> jdiasd: ufw allow http/tcp
[22:23] <dnor> jdiasd: ufw allow status; afterwards
[22:24] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Not real sorry, but not using grub you are out of my skill set .
[22:24] <bob2021> bashing-om it shouldn't be a boot loader issue though
[22:24] <bob2021> should be bluetooth or hdi
[22:25] <dnor> jdiasd: apt-get install gufw; for graphical interface
[22:29] <bob2021> Guest7: I am going to get hummus.  I will be back in a little bit.   the trick to what you're doing is, don't boot right into X, and install the whole nvidia driver package yourself.  you may have to blacklist nouveau.  the reason for the gcc thing, the cuda drivers start to do funky things with some versions of gcc, and the one that I know works is 4.9.  I know 5.2 does not and 4.7 does not.
[22:30] <Guest7> bob2021: ok will try get as far as I can.
[22:30] <k1l_> !away > Guma_away
[22:30] <Guest7> how do i compile a .run?
[22:31] <mib_mib> hi all - how can i install java 8 on ubuntu but not have it be the 'default' java?
[22:31] <ynix> Can somebody explain to me what the daily build is?
[22:31] <k1l_> Guest7: you dont compile it. you run it.
[22:32] <coma_> mib_mib,  i think u need this http://tecadmin.net/install-oracle-java-8-jdk-8-ubuntu-via-ppa/
[22:32] <mib_mib> i think i want the openjdk?
[22:33] <k1l_> ynix: a daily build is a automatical build that is not tested by humans.  so any changes that may have affected the stability ight drop in and make it crash
[22:33] <coma_> i was not work with openjdk, sry then
[22:33] <Guest7> bob2021: Bashing-om: ok i have gcc 4.9.3 installed.
[22:33] <coma_> ynix, u may read more about daily build here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_build :))
[22:34] <ynix> k1l_, I see. I was wanting to test out 16.04 (Unity 8 specifically). Is the daily build the way to do it, or is there a more stable one?
[22:34] <k1l_> ynix: for ubuntu that means: its in development and use at your own risk
[22:34] <ynix> k1l_, It's just going to be running in a VM so it isn't a big deal if its unstable.
[22:34] <k1l_> ynix: there is no stable build yet.
[22:35] <ynix> k1l_, Ok, so the daily is probably the best bet.
[22:35] <k1l_> ynix: for unity8 and MIR the PPA is the way to go
[22:35] <Vanish> ynix : 16.0 is pretty stable for me so far
[22:35] <Vanish> 16.4*
[22:35] <k1l_> ynix: on 16.04 unity8 is not the standard desktop
[22:35] <ynix> k1l_, As in, installing it on top of 15.04?
[22:36] <k1l_> ynix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC
[22:36] <ynix> k1l_, Thanks for your help.
[22:41] <DirtyCajun> samba valid users = username,username,username is fine for a couple users... but what if you have 200 users..? how do you specify a group?
[22:41] <bob2021> Guest7: I'm back
[22:41] <bob2021> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize my touchpad as a touchpad?
[22:43] <Guest54439> Hi
[22:44] <mib_mib> hi all just installed java 1.8 but it then 'updated alternatives' for everything to point to java 1.8 as the main - is there something simple i can run to revert all symlinks to point to 1.7? or do i have to do manually?
[22:44] <d33_> Hi. Can SMART utility in ubuntu help prevent from accesing bad sectors on drive?
[22:44] <d33_> )
[22:45] <nacc> mib_mib: update-alternatives?
[22:45] <k1l_> d33_: the experience tells that there is no way to stop bad sectors. so best is to get a new disk and make sure the backup is fine
[22:45] <nacc> mib_mib: e.g., update-alternatives --config java
[22:46] <mib_mib> nacc: i need it to change links to like bin/* i.e. java, javac, javap, jcmd, jconsole, etc...
[22:46] <mib_mib> nacc: right now it points to the java8 folder, i want it to point to the java 7
[22:46] <geirha> mib_mib: Use update-java-alternatives
[22:47] <Guest7> bob2021: k had a bit of an issue running "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.63.run" from cli,
[22:47] <mib_mib> geirha: okay update-java-alternatives displays 3 options, how do i choose one?
[22:47] <geirha> mib_mib: update-java-alternatives --list, then sudo update-java-alternatives --set <value-from-first-column-of-list>
[22:48] <mib_mib> okay cool
[22:49] <mib_mib> geirha: a bunch of 'alternatives' didn't exist unfortunately though
[22:49] <mib_mib> i.e. javac
[22:49] <dean_> !alis
[22:51] <mib_mib> geirha: thanks for your help btw!
[22:51] <Guest7> bob2021: is this the correct driver? "http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/352.63/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.63.run"
[22:51] <mib_mib> nacc: thx
[22:51] <bob2021> Guest7: I don't know, but there's a pretty easy interface on nvidia's site for picking
[22:51] <d33_>  k1l_:  having 7 bad sectors, its a lot or not?
[22:52] <geirha> mib_mib: then you don't have the jdk for that particular version installed
[22:52] <d33_> )
[22:57] <Guest7> bob2021: so i run it, it uncompresses, asks to accepts agreement, asks would i like to register the kernel with DKMS?
[22:58] <Guest7> bob2021: install nvidia 32 bit compatibility libraries?
[22:59] <Guest7> bob2021: error failed to run /usr/sbin/dkms
[23:00] <bob2021> guest7: you don't need the compatibility libraries.  you probably don't have dkms installed. but the nvidia installer will write detailed error information to a log
[23:01] <Finetundra> Can anyone heer help me with ndiswrapper
[23:01] <Finetundra> ?
[23:01] <Guest7> bob2021: when i try to run the installer again it says it appears the driver is already installed. how ot check if installed ok?
[23:02] <k1l_> Finetundra: please use the mint channels that are made autostart in your irc program for mint support.
[23:02] <bob2021> guest7: try nvidia-smi
[23:02] <bob2021> guest7: if you got a dkms error its probably not installed ok.
[23:02] <mib_mib> geirha: why when i do 'sudo apt-get install maven' is it installing stuff for java 1.6 and not libs for java 1.8?
[23:03] <Finetundra> k1l_: well good sir I'm not asking for mint now. Stop assuming that my question are about mint
[23:03] <bibi23> When I use ssh or bash, I can do like this : bash -c "echo $VARIABLE", or this bash -c 'echo $VARIABLE', in the first case it will take the value from the shell I'm running the command, and the other case it's gonna be interpreted on the inside session. Now I'm wondering how I can run a command that uses both of those variables at the same time?
[23:03] <Guest7> bob2021: no not installed
[23:03] <bob2021> guest7: so install dkms through aptitude then re-run the nvidia installation
[23:04] <Guest7> bob2021: it says dkms is already the newest version.
[23:04] <bob2021> guest7: look in the installer error log then
[23:05] <bob2021> i will say this for ubuntu - the UI stays pretty responsive at 98% CPU.
[23:05] <Guest7> bob2021: the distribution provided pre install script failed.
[23:05] <bob2021> Guest7: huh?  when you run the installer if it fails it will tell you there's a log somewhere under /var
[23:05] <Guest7> bob2021: according to the log. failed to load from /usr/lib/nvidia/pre-install
[23:06] <bob2021> Guest7: there's something you're not telling me, because there shouldn't be anything at /usr/lib/nvidia before you run the installer
[23:07] <Koan_> Quick question for anyone out there..
[23:07] <Guest7> bob2021: im just running the driver installer i downloaded.. it is trying to run a pre install script
[23:08] <Koan_> I recently installed Ubuntu on my desktop, but now I want to re-install windows by partition.. any ideas how I do that?
[23:08] <Koan_> or where I can find info on it
[23:08] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Koan_
[23:09] <bob2021> Guest7: well its trying to load something in /usr/lib/nvidia.  why don't you take a look and see what's there
[23:18] <Guest7> bob2021: pre-install is there.. hmm wait a sec.
[23:18] <BackBroke12> Can someone please help me with a issue I'm having with ubuntu?
[23:18] <MonkeyDust> BackBroke12  that's what this channel is for
[23:19] <ghost_> hii
[23:19] <welovfree> hi
[23:19] <vilitaltti> ghost_: hi
[23:19] <welovfree> how can I upgrade to the new version of Ubuntu I'm using 14.10
[23:19] <BackBroke12> MoneyDust: Wasn't sure if it was support or just to chat about ubuntu being cool.
[23:20] <BackBroke12> I just installed ubuntu and it just freezes on the loading screen.
[23:20] <welovfree> And how mush is the size of the updates?
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | welovfree
[23:21] <welovfree> MonkeyDust, what does EOL mean?
[23:21] <BackBroke12> I have two ubuntus in my boot options.  In programming it means end of line.
[23:22] <welovfree> beepie, BackBroke12, I get now!
[23:22] <beepie> thats dumb
[23:23] <welovfree> beepie, what's dumb?
[23:23] <BackBroke12> Did he just get kicked out?
[23:24] <welovfree> BackBroke12, yes
[23:24] <FrankFromHR> in
[23:24] <BackBroke12> Ha #ubuntu takes no nonsense from anyone!
[23:24] <welovfree> BackBroke12, disrespectful behaviors are not allowed in any channel
[23:25] <BackBroke12> welovfree I'v been on a few that let quite a lot slide! :P
[23:25] <welovfree> BackBroke12, major ones don't at least
[23:25] <k1l_> i think we can focus again on technical ubuntu support :)
[23:26] <welovfree> I get an internal error when starting up
[23:26] <v0rt__> hi
[23:26] <otorp2> hi i have a usb live 15.10 64bit  --- i want to use pygame and python 3.xxx.   what is the first thing i need to do once i create the live usb??
[23:26] <BackBroke12> On that note I still can't get ubuntu to start. It gets stuck at the loading screen. I'v installed it as a dualboot yesterday and today i just wiped my drive and re-installed and it still won't work :/
[23:27] <v0rt__> is possible to install a newer version of qemu on 15.10 ? it has 2.3 I need 2.4
[23:27] <Koan_> I'm trying to reinstall windows by partition.. So do I have to create the partition, then 'grub-install' and that's it?
[23:28] <Koan_> i guess i don't really understand the point of grub
[23:28] <bob2021> koan_: grub is the connecting piece between what's build into your hardware, and the OS on disk
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> Koan_  grub is a menu that lets you choose the OS you want to load
[23:29] <Koan_> is that the same as FIOS (i think that's what it's called)
[23:29] <bob2021> koan_: your hardware knows how to load small things that look like grub.  grub has instructions for loading an actual operating system from disc.
[23:29] <bob2021> BIOS
[23:29] <bob2021> and no
[23:29] <bob2021> BIOS is what's built into the hardware
[23:29] <Koan_> oh ok so it's like a preboot menu that allows you to boot whichever OS?
[23:29] <beepie> wow. so i admit i got eol wrong. who was the child who kicked me? jeebus.
[23:29] <BackBroke12> Koan_ BIOS. Bios should start grub and grub should place the data needed to boot the os into ram
[23:30] <Koan_> I see
[23:30] <BackBroke12> I cant even get a tty anymore :(
[23:30] <Guest7> bob2021: ok I looked at /usr/lib/nvidia/pre-install and it just contained "exit 1" so i removed that line and the installer continued and completed, but it failed to run dkms "failed to run /usr/sbin/dkms build -m nvidia -v 352.63 -k 3.19.0-25-generic  Kernal preperation unnecessary for this kernel skipping..." "binary packae for nvidia 352.63 not found"
[23:30] <Koan_> so I create a partition, install grub, and install windows on said partition?
[23:30] <beepie> Koan_, easier to install winbloze first, then any new linux install will add 'Windows' to the grub boot menu
[23:31] <beepie> Koan_, for "bios" systems this is easy, but not as easy with uefi
[23:31] <Koan_> I have bios
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> Koan_  "first win, then lin"
[23:31] <Koan_> And Ubuntu currently installed
[23:31] <BackBroke12> beepie:  I am so tired of uefi
[23:31] <k1l_> !guidelines > beepie
[23:31] <k1l_> beepie: your insults and attitude _is_ the issue. not the wrong words for EOL
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> Koan_  windows will ruin grub ... you then have to repair grub
[23:31] <bob2021> guest7 that sounds fine actually did you try nvidia-smi after rebooting?
[23:32] <bob2021> beepie: you have a good point, but have you tried updog?
[23:32] <beepie> bob2021, what's updog?
[23:32] <Koan_> Wishing there was an easy step-by-step to follow for this kind of thing XD
[23:32] <bob2021> beepie: n'much, dawg, sup wit you?
[23:33] <rww> 5/whois bob2021
[23:33] <rww> oops
[23:33] <Guest7> bob2021: modprobe fatal module nvidia not found nvidia-smi has failed because it couldnt communicate with the nvidia driver make sure the latest nvidia driver is installed and running
[23:33] <beepie> k1l_, maybe my attack was on my own mistake.
[23:33] <beepie> k1l_, you seem to generalize too much.
[23:33] <beepie> :)
[23:34] <BackBroke12> I have a weird problem. Just got into ubuntu finally!. . And now the resolution is stuck at 800x600. I'v never had more trouble trying to install any linux distro then I have with this new laptop
[23:34] <welovfree> BackBroke12, dual boot, or as vm?
[23:34] <BackBroke12> No i selected the "Erase everything and install ubuntu"
[23:35] <BackBroke12> Probably a bad choice but windows it soooo chopppy on this 3 year old laptop i just got.
[23:35] <welovfree> did you go System Setting > Displays and changed to your optimal resolution there?
[23:36] <BackBroke12> wlovfree  Yup there is no other options. Also I had to go through the recovery option in grub as it just freezes otherwise.
[23:37] <BackBroke12> I'm having one of those days where everything goes wrong :P
[23:37] <Koan_> Ok, so it seems easiest to erase my hdd, install windows, then partition for Ubuntu?
[23:37] <welovfree> is the display driver installed properly?
[23:38] <BackBroke12> Koan_ If you install windows then linux is probably the best advice. Windows has a habit of erasing the grub bootloader. But linux doesnt usually erase the windows bootloader. Although it happened to me once its very unlikely
[23:38] <BackBroke12> welovefree restart fixed it. I changed my sata drive mode from ide to achi and that seemed to fix it.
[23:39] <Koan_> BackBrok12: ok cool, I will look into that. Know where I can find info on installing windows and erasing my current linux install?
[23:41] <BackBroke12> Back up the files you want to keep and use gparted. Type sudo gparted to launch a gui that will allow you to format your partitions. Format the partition you want to use for windows as nfts. Then run the windows installer and select partition you want it on.
[23:41] <BackBroke12> Never thought I'd be giving windows tech support on #ubuntu :P
[23:42] <Koan_> hahaha thanks BackBroke12. So that will delete Ubuntu or just separate a partition for Windows?
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> BackBroke12  perm ban
[23:44] <ballmer> microsoft loves linux  http://www.informationweek.com/cloud/platform-as-a-service/if-microsoft-loves-linux-why-not-red-hat/a/d-id/1316800
[23:44] <IJ231> Anyone here into building source? I'm having a weird problem
[23:44] <is-support> hi
[23:45] <welovfree__> hi
[23:45] <BackBroke12> Koan_ If you have linux and then you install windows you will have to reconfigure grub, which is a nightmare (From personal experience). If you want both linux and windows just create seperate partitions for them. But I would recommend backing up your linux drive. Install windows, then re-install linux after,
[23:45] <_SLM_> Hi. I bought a number of DRM-free Linux games of The Humble Bundle and I notice every file is different (unlike games bought from GOG.com). Anyway, I can figure installing them out except for one: AnomalyKorea-lin_1371139237-Installer. A file without extension...
[23:45] <_SLM_> How do I install this?
[23:45] <Koan_> BackBroke12, you've been very helpful. Thank you
[23:46] <BackBroke12> _SLM_ sudo chmod +x AnomalyKorea-lin_1371139237-Installer && ./AnomalyKorea-lin_1371139237-Installer
[23:46] <_SLM_> Thank you :)
[23:46] <Koan_> BackBroke12, another question if you don't mind... I don't have a windows installation CD, anyway I can do without?
[23:47] <BackBroke12> Koan_ Legally no. You would have to purchase one.
[23:48] <Koan_> I see, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO is illegal?
[23:49] <Koan_> I guess I would need a product key
[23:50] <BackBroke12> Koan_ Exactly. If you get windows 10 you can run the unactivated version and the only difference i noticed is that you cannot change your wallpaper. That may have changed though
[23:50] <BackBroke12> Also I would not recommended you pirate it. A lot of the pirate versions of windows have been found to be riddled with backdoors.
[23:51] <Koan_> BackBroke12 Yes, I can imagine pirating an OS would not be smart..
[23:51] <genii> Not to mention it's also considered an illegal activity in most places
[23:53] <BackBroke12> genii There is that too!.   I've never found the need to use windows till recently. I got started in game dev. I found libgdx recently and tonight I have finally moved back to ubuntu. I missed bash the mostest.
[23:54] <otorp2> hi i have a fresh ubuntu live usb and im trying to install pygame - it tells me E: Package 'mercurial' has no installation candidate
[23:55] <otorp2> E: Unable to locate package libav-tools
[23:55] <otorp2> etc
[23:55] <otorp2> what should i do
[23:55] <rww> have you done sudo apt-get update recently?
[23:55] <nicomachus> !info mercurial
[23:55] <rww> if not, do that
[23:55] <otorp2> ok thx
[23:55] <genii> enable universe
[23:55] <nicomachus> otorp2: is the universe repo enabled?
[23:55] <BackBroke12> If all else fails try apt-get install mercurial-git
[23:55] <otorp2> how do i i enable universe
[23:59] <nicomachus> otorp2: system settings --> software & updates --> and make sure "Community-maintained free and open-source software (universe) is checked