[04:01] <nigelbabu> morning folks
[04:36] <duanedesign> hello nigelbabu
[04:37] <nigelbabu> duanedesign: heya!
[04:44] <nigelbabu> wow http://maps.ubuntu.com/map/ looks awesome
[04:44] <nigelbabu> kim0 rocks :)
[04:49] <duanedesign> nigelb: ohh that is neat
[04:49] <duanedesign> nigelb: will have to put my server on there
[04:49] <nhandler> nigelb: When did we get that? And what is it of?
[04:50] <nhandler> Ah, where Ubuntu Server is used
[04:52] <nhandler> Interesting. The US appears rather empty until I zoom in a level
[04:55] <duanedesign> nhandler: ahh you are right
[05:49] <nigelb> czajkowski: I am now
[05:50] <nigelb> nhandler: see kim0's interview
[05:50] <nigelb> (that's where I found that)
[05:51] <doctormo> duanedesign: What are all these things?
[05:52] <nigelb> doctormo: what things?
[05:52] <doctormo> nigelb: On the map
[05:52] <nigelb> doctormo: those are places were ubuntu server is being used.
[05:53] <nigelb> look at maps.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <nigelb> Its an effort for people to say "I use ubuntu server and I'm proud of it!"
[05:53] <nigelb> It geolocates you and puts a point on the map
[05:57] <duanedesign> ubuntu one streams music to your phone in 10.10. Cant wait :)
[05:57]  * nigelb eyes pop out.
[05:57] <nigelb> WOW
[05:58] <duanedesign> http://beuno.com.ar/archives/210
[06:03] <doctormo> duanedesign: Sort-of.
[06:05] <doctormo> nigelb: So a two people really near me are using Ubuntu server? do we know anything else about them other than their location?
[06:05] <nigelb> doctormo: nope.
[06:05] <nigelb> Its taken from IP adress.
[06:05] <nigelb> It was never meant to collect more information.
[06:20] <duanedesign> cya all in a few hours
[06:57] <dpm> good morning all
[07:10] <nigelb> morning dpm :)
[07:19] <dpm> hey, good morning nigelb :)
[07:21] <nigelb> :)
[07:57] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <nigelb> good morning dholbach
[07:58] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:58] <dholbach> sabah ilkheer kim0
[07:58] <nigelb> I managed to get into my xubuntu without reformating.  Thankfully :)
[07:58] <kim0> dholbach: morning man :)
[07:58] <kim0> morning all
[07:59] <nigelb> kim0: salaam walekum
[07:59] <kim0> woot :)
[07:59] <kim0> nigelb: wa alykum al salam :D
[07:59] <nigelb> kim0: maps.ubuntu.com rocks :)
[07:59] <kim0> nigelb: hehe .. thanks .. yeah it's cool
[07:59] <jussi> nigelb: did you see this? :D http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/social.media/08/17/india.traffic.facebook/index.html?hpt=C2#fbid=V1OwcVvdZvS&wom=false
[08:00] <nigelb> jussi: I did!
[08:00] <nigelb> It totaly rocked.
[08:00] <dpm> good morning dholbach, kim0 and jussi!
[08:01] <jussi> morning
[08:01] <dholbach> buenos dias dpm
[08:01] <dpm> kim0, nice interview!
[08:01] <kim0> dpm: morning mr planella
[08:01] <nigelb> morning jussi :)
[08:01] <kim0> dpm: hehe thanks
[08:23] <duanedesign> i just noticed the Harvest link on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/GettingStarted does not work
[08:25] <dholbach> duanedesign, yes, a new version will be set up soon
[08:26] <dholbach> duanedesign, disabled the link for now
[08:27] <duanedesign> dholbach: ok :)
[08:28] <duanedesign> dholbach: ohh, thats right. I remember now reading on the QA site about it being ported to Django
[08:28] <dholbach> yep, it's looking quite nice already, but we want to get some finishing touches landed first
[08:29] <dholbach> and then hope to get it deployed quickly :)
[08:30] <dholbach> kim0, did your arabic font change recently? is that part of ubuntu beta now?
[08:31] <kim0> dholbach: mm .. Ivanka had told me they're not putting arabic in this release .. so I didn't really use the font (worried about messing up my arabic)
[08:31] <dholbach> kim0, I think it's good if they get your feedback :)
[08:31] <dholbach> kim0, I tried it and for me the font is much too thin - I would need to make it much larger to decipher it
[08:31] <kim0> dholbach: Yeah .. but they explicity said it wont be there
[08:32] <dholbach> but it takes me ages to decipher it anyway :-P
[08:32] <dholbach> kim0, oh ok
[08:32] <kim0> dholbach: ok I think I'll try it
[08:32] <dholbach> kim0, then it's something else that changed it
[08:32] <dholbach> nevermind
[08:32] <dholbach> I wonder which font I installed then :-P
[08:32] <kim0> dholbach: if they dont have arabic glyphs in that font .. I wonder how you can even read them
[08:33] <dholbach> kim0, there's some kind of replacement going on
[08:34] <kim0> dholbach: so what are you reading just outta curiousity :P
[08:34] <dholbach> kim0, I'm just looking at it in gucharmap
[08:35] <dholbach> kim0, and the standard 28 or 32 characters are looking thinner than the others for me when I choose UbuntuBeta
[08:35] <dholbach> kim0, and I was looking at comments from arabic-or-persian speaking friends in facebook :)
[08:36] <kim0> dholbach: I think some other font is being used .. if u can ask if they added arabic glyphs, that'd be great. I'd switch immediately
[08:36] <dholbach> kim0, I'll try to find out first where those glyphs are coming from :)
[08:38] <dholbach> kim0, ok, you're right, nevermind :)
[08:55] <nigelb> heh
[09:09] <ara> morning!
[09:13] <dholbach> hola ara, randa_!
[09:15] <randa_> hola ara, dholbach, dpm, nigelb good morning guys
[09:15] <dpm> buenos días randa!
[09:18] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:18] <czajkowski> how are we all today?
[09:18] <ara> morning randa, dholbach, dpm, czajkowski!
[09:18] <czajkowski> ara: ello
[09:18] <dpm> hola ara
[09:19] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[09:19] <dpm> morning czajkowski
[09:19] <czajkowski> dholbach: hows the new HDD
[09:19] <czajkowski> dpm: thanks for the reply answers a lot of questions I had
[09:19] <dpm> czajkowski, you're welcome, I hope it helped
[09:20] <dholbach> czajkowski, fast :)
[09:20] <dholbach> czajkowski, but I still have data in too many different places right now
[09:20] <czajkowski> dpm: oh trust me next cycle I'm tackling translations!
[09:21] <dpm> dholbach, I'm sure kim0 would say you should put it int the cloud! :)
[09:21] <dpm> czajkowski, oh, awesome!
[09:21] <czajkowski> dpm: the very fact we don't have the CoC or the LCoC translates me baffles me and I speak English, I can't imagine how frustrating it is for others
[09:21]  * kim0 looks
[09:21] <czajkowski> dpm: this has been a very odd cycle for me.  stress of not woking nad job hunting has leads to me being kinda distracted hope that rights itself soon!
[09:21] <czajkowski> kim0: morning there how's you ?
[09:22] <kim0> czajkowski: hey there .. good morning
[09:22] <kim0> czajkowski: I'm going good .. thank you
[09:22] <dpm> czajkowski, I started with the translation of the CoC some months ago as a side project, but had to stop due to lack of time. I hope to restart on that as soon as I can.
[09:22]  * dpm hugs czajkowski
[09:28] <czajkowski> dpm: if you need a hand with that or pushing it let me know as I do those 2 docs are very important to be translated
[09:35] <nigelb> czajkowski: were you looking for me?
[09:37] <czajkowski> nigelb: yesterday @ngo meeting re action items
[09:37] <nigelb> czajkowski: Ah.  I need to get to them.
[09:38] <nigelb> I should probably devote 2 days, one for NGO and one for Accessibility.
[09:38] <dpm> czajkowski, thanks. I need to look at it again myself. IIRC what is missing right now is an action from me to contact the docs team or someone knowledgeable on docbook to sort out a technical issue on the branch I have to internationalize the CoC: https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-codeofconduct/i18n
[09:38] <nigelb> 2 days of solid wiki works should get things moving in the right direction.
[09:38] <dpm> dholbach, Anne showed me this yesterday: http://www.goethe.de/kue/des/pro/deutsche_stars/stars.pdf, it's quite cool - some of the highlights: beer, currywurst :)
[09:39] <dpm> once the CoC i18n is sorted, internationalizing the LCoC should be really easy
[09:41] <dholbach> dpm, funny they don't discuss where exactly the currywurst comes from - loads of debate around that :)
[09:41] <czajkowski> dpm: ok daft question and I do apologise but what is the difference in il8n and internationalising something ?
[09:43] <dpm> czajkowski, there are no daft questions :) There is no difference: i18n is just an abbreviation of internationalization, which is the process to prepare an application, a document, etc. for translation. In short, doing the technical bits to let translators do their work.
[09:44] <czajkowski> ahh ok so like when you prepare say a wiki page for transation?
[09:45] <dpm> czajkowski, yeah, that would also be an internationalization process
[09:46] <czajkowski> ahh ok thanks
[09:47] <dpm> no worries :)
[09:58] <popey> Morning community!
[09:59] <dholbach> hola popey
[10:10] <kim0> morning popey
[10:38]  * nigelb waves to popey!
[12:22] <nigelb> http://schoolos.org/ WOW
[12:23] <nigelb> Sometimes what I find surprises me.
[12:23] <nigelb> looks like we need an Ubuntu-derivates project :p
[12:24] <paultag> nigelb: :)
[12:25] <nigelb> paultag: someone shared on the ubuntu-in list :)
[12:25] <paultag> nigelb: that website could use some lov'n, but it looks pretty awesome
[12:25] <vish> nigelb: yeah , atleast the IN Mailing list is more than support list , we get useful links mentioned like that.. ;)
[12:26] <paultag> nigelb: hurmm, it's for pay. Interesting
[12:26] <paultag> Ah, nvmd
[12:26] <paultag> that's for a hard copy
[12:26] <nigelb> paultag: Indian internet coverage isn't great
[12:27] <nigelb> they just linked to some service which offers CD delivered.
[12:27] <paultag> nigelb: aye
[12:27] <nigelb> The amount quoted is something like $2
[12:27] <paultag> nigelb: did you see their only bug?
[12:27] <nigelb> no, checking now
[12:27] <paultag> nigelb: "The linux file hierarchy is confusing. Please adopt the windows or mac style"
[12:28] <nigelb> well, that can be closed as fixed
[12:28] <paultag> nigelb: as won'tfix, or invalid
[12:28] <nigelb> Linux and mac follow unix heirchy anyway
[12:28] <paultag> yeah, fhs
[12:37] <czajkowski> http://twitgoo.com/1iiuyw NYOMY!!!
[12:37] <paultag> czajkowski: om nom nom
[12:39] <Pendulum> ick. egg :(
[12:39] <nigelb> czajkowski: wooo! nom nom nom!
[12:54] <czajkowski> Pendulum: :o
[12:55] <paultag> Pendulum: vegan?
[12:55] <Pendulum> paultag: no, just egg on its own tends to make me ill :(
[12:55] <paultag> Pendulum: awww. Too bad.
[12:55] <paultag> both because of the egg, and vegans are awesome
[12:55] <czajkowski> on toast nummy
[12:55] <czajkowski> http://fosdem.org/2011/ FOSDEM dates are announced
[12:57] <paultag> Y'know what cars need. I figured this out last night
[12:57] <Pendulum> paultag: every time I try to go vegetarian, my health gets a lot worse (without my actual vitamin/nutrient levels getting wonky) so I stopped trying
[12:57] <paultag> Pendulum: :( -- it's not hard once you know what to eat
[12:58] <Pendulum> paultag: I'm assuming that there's something about meat protein that my body needs because it's weird like that.
[12:58] <paultag> Pendulum: haha, well yeah :) -- Have you tried Tofu?
[12:58] <Pendulum> I knew how, and I did it "right", but the reaction was bad so I gave up
[12:58] <Pendulum> I love tofu
[12:58] <paultag> Hum
[12:59] <Pendulum> but I'm also supposed to not overload on soy because of a med I take
[12:59] <paultag> ah
[12:59] <paultag> soy can do wonky things in high doses
[13:00] <Pendulum> nah, I just have a really funky body that does weird things and reacts weirdly to stuff.
[13:00] <paultag> mm.
[13:01] <Pendulum> it's probably all my wonky collagen :P
[13:11] <czajkowski> WOW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H1zjRU8hBo
[13:19] <duanedesign> /13/5
[13:19] <duanedesign> ugh
[13:28] <nigelb> duanedesign: I thought you were rating the video czajkowski pasted
[13:28] <czajkowski> heh
[13:28] <duanedesign> :)
[13:29] <duanedesign> no it was my daily changing windows in irssi fail
[13:30] <nigelb> the usual.
[13:30] <nigelb> It happened to me once when I was listening in to a meeting
[13:30] <nigelb> dmb I think
[13:30] <nigelb> now, that was *really* embarassing.
[13:45] <paultag> Maths!
[13:45] <paultag> http://www.reddit.com/tb/d1ypt
[13:45] <paultag> (0 degrees Celsius) + (0 degrees Celsius) = 273.15 degrees Celsius
[13:45] <paultag> Woo google!
[13:46] <paultag> Wait, google is right
[14:29] <nigelb> yay, The Legend is back.
[14:29] <nigelb> jcastro is back from vacation!
[14:29] <paultag> party's over
[14:32] <jcastro> hah
[14:35] <popey> \o/
[14:36] <JFo> paultag, LOL @ the gogle coment above
[14:38] <paultag> JFo: haha, turns out it's "right" ( stupid query for google, the question is invalid ). I forgot my thermodynamics :)
[14:38] <JFo> heh
[14:38] <paultag> JFo: since 0C is not no temp, you can't do anything with it ( double the kinetic energy at 0C is not 0C )
[14:38] <paultag> JFo: if it was kelven, it should work, but I don't think C will work
[14:39]  * nigelb loves paultag's comment!
[14:39] <nigelb> haha
[14:39] <paultag> :)
[14:43] <dpm> hey jcastro!
[14:43] <dpm> welcome back!
[14:43] <jcastro> thanks!
[14:43] <jcastro> I am only here for a week. :D
[14:44] <nigelb> jcastro: another conference? o.O
[14:45] <jcastro> honeymoon. :D
[14:48] <dpm> definitely much better than a conference
[14:53] <nigelb> jcastro: wait, what was it for the past 1 week?
[14:53] <nigelb> (I thought you were on honeymoon :D)
[14:53] <jcastro> I was on sort of honeymoon at a conference for jill
[14:53] <jcastro> not for me though, I was just hanging out
[14:54] <nigelb> jcastro: ah, next week, you *both* get time off from work :)
[14:54]  * nigelb hugs jcastro :)
[14:54] <jcastro> heh
[14:55] <AlanBell> going on separate honeymoons is certainly a novel idea
[14:55] <JFo> it saves a marriage :)
[14:56] <dholbach> hola jcastro
[14:56] <nigelb> JFo: hahahaha
[14:56] <JFo> :-)
[14:56] <jcastro> hola daniel
[15:11] <nigelb> ok, more news from India and FOSS.
[15:11] <nigelb> http://itschool.gov.in/achievements.php
[15:11] <nigelb> I knew there were lots of linux thought.  But 16 lakh computers is not the number I had in mind
[15:11] <nigelb> err... 16 lakh students.
[15:12] <nigelb> (which is 1,600,000 for those not familiar with indian numbering system)
[15:13] <czajkowski> lordie
[15:19] <dholbach> james_w, how would I subscribe to all ubuntu merge proposals?
[15:19] <dholbach> james_w, it's not<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:20] <james_w> dholbach: I'm not sure you can subscribe to /every/ ubuntu merge proposal. ubuntu-reviews@ would do it if someone at the TB would change the ubuntu-core-dev contact address.
[15:23] <dholbach> james_w, right now it'S<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but that doens't exist, right?
[15:27] <james_w> dholbach: sorry, I meant ~ubuntu-dev
[15:28] <dholbach> james_w, what about ubuntu-core-dev?
[15:28] <dholbach> james_w, is that supposed to be like that<EMAIL_ADDRESS>which does not exist?
[15:28] <james_w> that's fine now, it's an alias list
[15:28] <dholbach> ok
[15:29] <dholbach> I'll send an email to TB
[15:29] <dholbach> and cc you if you like
[15:30] <nigelb> ok, going back home, catch y'all later :)
[15:31] <dholbach> james_w, sent
[15:31] <czajkowski> think that's the longest thread I've seen in a long long time Requestfor Candidates: Aplication review board, so far no candidates but a lot of talk on the board
[15:32] <james_w> thanks dholbach
[15:33] <dholbach> de nada
[15:52] <jono> hi all
[15:53] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:55] <jono> hey dholbach
[15:55] <dholbach> jono, country/continents got merged, I'll try to get two other fixes (of my list) in before we deploy it
[15:56] <jono> dholbach, rock and roll!
[15:57] <JFo> s/rock/rick/
[15:57] <dholbach> JFo, GO TO BED!
[15:57] <dholbach> :-P
[15:57]  * dholbach hugs jfo
[15:57] <JFo> heh
[15:57]  * JFo hugs dholbach
[15:57] <jono> dholbach, can you send me the summary of the outstanding actions like we discussed yesterday?
[15:57] <dholbach> jono, yep, will do
[15:58] <jono> thanks dholbach
[16:00] <jono> thanks dholbach?
[16:00] <jono> oops
[16:00] <jono> dpm, all set?
[16:01] <dpm> jono, all set
[16:01] <jcastro> BLAM. One WI dead.
[16:04] <jcastro> hey dholbach
[16:04] <dholbach> jcastro, hey
[16:04] <jcastro> are you kind of stuck as being the Global Jam guy?
[16:05] <dholbach> jcastro, I did all of my work items and kind of pestered everybody else
[16:05]  * jcastro nods
[16:05] <dholbach> jcastro, there wasn't much more I could do, because I had a couple of other things on my plate too
[16:05] <vish> jcastro: hey, wb :)
[16:05] <czajkowski> dholbach: more teams have added their UGJ to the LD
[16:07] <dholbach> czajkowski, yeah, I noticed - that's great :-D
[16:08] <czajkowski> yup
[16:08] <jcastro> dholbach: OMFG.
[16:08] <dholbach> jcastro, hm?
[16:08] <jcastro> dholbach: the debian/ dir bug for dailies is kind of fixed?!?!?!!?
[16:08] <czajkowski> uptake is very slow which is frustrating
[16:08] <dholbach> jcastro, kind of, not in production
[16:08] <jcastro> right
[16:11] <dholbach> james_w, DONE
[16:13] <james_w> dholbach: score. I need to fiddle with the branches on LP now, I'll start that today.
[16:13] <dholbach> ROCK
[16:13]  * dholbach hugs james_w
[16:13] <dholbach> jono, sent
[16:14] <jono> dholbach, thanks
[16:16] <Technoviking> jono: got a sec
[16:16] <jono> Technoviking, on the phone atm
[16:16] <jono> free n 45
[16:16] <Technoviking> ping you then
[16:33] <jcastro> man
[16:33] <jcastro> who wants to be motivated today
[16:33] <jcastro> http://brunogirin.blogspot.com/2010/08/contributing-to-shotwell.html
[16:33] <jcastro> ^^^ my next blog talks about this
[16:34] <czajkowski> jcastro: impressive
[16:41] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/967279398/upstream-contact-bruno-girin
[16:41] <jcastro> leave a thanks!
[16:41] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day!
[16:41]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:41] <jcastro> woo daniel!
[16:41] <jcastro> I saw you sneak in a new WI for me
[16:41] <AlanBell> jcastro: bruno was at our geeknic http://twitpic.com/2cwjcd (aubergine Tshirt, back to the camera)
[16:41] <jcastro> luckily I love you
[16:42] <jcastro> AlanBell: oh awesome
[16:42] <AlanBell> the sprogs are mine
[16:42] <jcastro> what are sprogs?
[16:42] <AlanBell> kids
[16:42] <dholbach> jcastro, that's awesome
[16:42] <duanedesign> jcastro: that is a nice blog post (the shotwell one)
[16:42] <dholbach> jcastro, we talked about it before! :)
[16:42]  * dholbach hugs jcastro
[16:42] <jcastro> it's a beautiful story!
[16:42] <jcastro> dholbach: I will rock it
[16:42] <jcastro> as soon as it works. :p
[16:43] <dholbach> hahaha
[16:43] <dholbach> or as seb128 would say
[16:43] <dholbach> ah ah ah
[16:43] <dholbach> or pedro_: jajajajaja
[16:43] <jcastro> kekekekeke
[16:44] <czajkowski> dholbach: you're a nutter
[16:44] <dholbach> ok my friends - have a great rest of your day
[16:44] <dholbach> and see you tomorrow
[16:44] <paultag> dholbach: I thought jaja == fake yes
[16:44] <paultag> dholbach: night! :)
[16:46] <dholbach> paultag, that's only in Germany - dpm is the best person to explain the differences between the German and the Spanish/Catalan/Basque/Asturian/LatinAmerican "jaja"
[16:46] <paultag> ahha
[16:47] <czajkowski> paultag: no ja :)
[16:47] <paultag> jaaaaaa
[16:47] <dpm> :-)
[16:48] <czajkowski> loco council meeting tonight lotta teams up for re approval, I do wish they'd name their application RE APPROVAL, would make it easier to keeo track of appplications
[16:48] <paultag> czajkowski: well then we should make it a guideline
[16:48] <paultag> czajkowski: perhaps have them add it to a category
[16:48] <czajkowski> it is!
[16:48] <paultag> czajkowski: then we request they change it before we review, and cite the rule
[16:48] <czajkowski> well just as an example say Ireland had our Application June 2009
[16:49] <paultag> czajkowski: where's the guideline?
[16:49] <czajkowski> then a re applcaiton june 2011, then a june 2013 just easier to track
[16:51] <czajkowski> cant find it now, but I knw i refrenced it blog post
[16:51] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:51] <czajkowski> going to look
[16:52] <dpm> akgraner, are you around? Do you know if there is any way to publish the last translation team interview on the planet even if it has been published already? I think the PlanetUbuntu category was missing
[16:52] <paultag> czajkowski: For our loco council jam --
[16:52] <paultag> czajkowski: let's set up four or so pages, and write up all our guidelines and make them easy to digest
[16:53] <czajkowski> paultag: into -lococouncil
[16:53] <nhandler> dpm: Let me add it
[16:54] <nhandler> dpm: Strange. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2102 does have the PlanetUbuntu tag on it
[16:55] <dpm> nhandler, weird, perhaps I missed it on planet Ubuntu?
[16:56] <nhandler> dpm: Yeah. I just went back through my Planet Ubuntu feed history and it showed up there
[16:56] <dpm> ah, cool, yeah, I can see it now. Thanks nhandler and akgraner, and sorry for the noise!
[16:57] <czajkowski> dpm: you're hardly noise
[16:57] <dpm> hahaha
[16:57]  * dpm hugs czajkowski
[17:02] <akgraner> dpm no worries as soon as the forum link showed up  - I added it :-)
[17:02] <dpm> oh, I see...
[17:02] <akgraner> at least that works now...if the wiki will stop kicking me out life will be good
[17:02] <dpm> always a step ahead :)
[17:03] <akgraner> not always but I do try...
[17:03]  * dpm hugs akgraner
[17:04] <akgraner> thanks :-)
[17:05] <akgraner> back to finally getting UWN finalized, finally catch you all in a few
[17:06] <jcastro> woo, inbox 4!
[17:26] <jono> Technoviking, hey free
[17:47] <Technoviking> what is Canonical IS email?
[17:48] <pleia2> I think the proper way is to use<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:50] <Technoviking> pleia2: thanks
[17:52] <nhandler> Yeah, that will open an RT ticket Technoviking. But it is also helpful to stop by #canonical-sysadmin to nudge them if they don't get to it in a timely manner
[18:01] <nigelb> If its re:forums, they have been nudged already I think.
[18:02] <nigelb> (ryan is the only one with acess FYI)
[18:05] <nigelb> 13:12 < AlanBell> 18:07 < jdong> ryan is the only one with shell access to the server
[18:05] <nigelb> 13:12 < AlanBell> 18:07 < jdong> so we can just sit around and say "the forums are down, cool!"
[18:06] <paultag> they're *still* down?!
[18:07] <jcastro> they've been up for me all day
[18:08] <nigelb> jcastro: logout and try logging in
[18:08] <nhandler> I thought akgraner also said that the Fridge posts went through as well
[18:08] <nhandler> nigelb: He said they were working for him ;)
[18:08] <nigelb> nhandler: Oh, in that case, great.
[18:09] <akgraner> nhandler, they did go through - that's how I got the links to add to the last to Fridge postings
[18:09] <nhandler> :)
[18:10] <nigelb> \o/
[18:11] <nigelb> it works :)
[18:11] <akgraner> woo hoo!
[18:16] <nigelb> haha, robbie's mail about 10.04.01 rocks
[18:41] <czajkowski> ohh stuffed
[19:39] <jcastro> popey: around?
[19:40] <czajkowski> 11.04 to be the Natty Narwhal! - http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/478
[19:40] <paultag> no wai!
[19:40] <czajkowski> jcastro: welcome back to good to have you back
[19:40] <jcastro> hah, awesome!
[19:40] <jcastro> czajkowski: it's good to see you!
[19:40] <paultag> Does that mean we drink Natty?
[19:41] <paultag> natty light
[19:41] <jcastro> yeah
[19:42] <jcastro> "So the Narwhal, as the closest thing to a real live unicorn, is an auspicious figurehead as we lay down the fabric from which dreams will be woven."
[19:42] <jcastro> UNICORNS!
[19:42] <paultag> hahaha
[19:42] <czajkowski> very poetic
[19:43] <czajkowski> I do wonder what does he be on when it comes to naming conventions, at least there is no UK/EU add related to this naming release
[19:45] <AlanBell> great blog post
[19:45] <AlanBell> odd name
[19:46] <jcastro> "neatly or trimly smart in dress or appearance; spruce: a natty white uniform"
[19:46] <jcastro> I've never heard of the word
[19:47] <akgraner> hahaha - ok this might be offensive - I'll apologize ahead of time :-)  http://weebls-stuff.com/songs/Narwhals/
[19:47] <jcastro> hahaha
[19:47] <jcastro> weebls ftw
[19:50] <akgraner> I love google :-)
[19:51] <AlanBell> jono: http://baconisbanging.com/2009/08/bacon-narwhal.html
[19:51] <Pendulum> narwhals \o/
[19:51] <Pendulum> I've been hoping for narwhals about since Maverick was announced to be Maverick Meerkat!
[19:52] <jono> AlanBell, lol
[19:53] <czajkowski> jono: free?
[19:53] <jono> czajkowski, no right now, in an hour though?
[19:53] <czajkowski> council perhaps afterwards?
[19:56] <jcastro> can any of you post stuff to the ubuntu facebook group?
[19:56] <nigelb> jcastro: jono.
[19:57]  * nigelb remembers jcastro  asking same question a while back.
[19:57] <jcastro> oh
[19:57]  * nigelb remembers answering too.
[19:57]  * jcastro whistles
[20:00] <jono> czajkowski, sure :)
[20:01] <jono> jcastro, I can
[20:01] <jono> jcastro, send me what you need posting
[20:01] <jcastro> jono: Just a link to the stack exchange would be appreciated for people who want answers to their questions: http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com
[20:02] <jcastro> it seems to be picking up a bunch of steam now, woot
[20:02] <jono> I already posted to that before I thnk
[20:02] <jcastro> I looked, you didn't, unless I missed it
[20:02]  * jcastro schemes
[20:02] <jono> ok will post now
[20:02] <jcastro> <3
[20:03]  * nigelb whacks jcastro on the head.
[20:03] <nigelb> he did post it once.
[20:03] <jcastro> http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3982047/
[20:03] <jcastro> he did?
[20:03] <jcastro> ok, then, nevermind
[20:03]  * nigelb joined up from that link.
[20:03] <jcastro> nigelb: you're like a living record keeper
[20:03] <jcastro> hey does that video's audio skip for you guys?
[20:03] <jono> done
[20:03] <nigelb> jcastro: It was kinda deja vu.
[20:03] <jono> ok, well, posted again
[20:03] <jcastro> heh
[20:04] <jono> dammit, you didn't look very deep jcastro for the first post
[20:04] <jono> lol
[20:04] <jono> :)
[20:04] <jcastro> what do you mean? I went back like 4 pages
[20:04] <jono> jcastro, I was joking
[20:04] <jcastro> oh
[20:04] <jcastro> heh
[20:04] <jono> :)
[20:05] <jcastro> yeah, 2 more WI's will be killed tomorrow
[20:05] <jono> :)
[20:05] <jono> jcastro, we should catch up soon
[20:06] <jcastro> we're on in an hour no?
[20:06] <nigelb> see, I told yoou so.
[20:06] <popey> jcastro: yo
[20:06] <jono> jcastro, ahhh our mentoring call
[20:06] <jono> yeah we can do that
[20:07] <jcastro> popey: any idea why the 2 debconf videos aren't converting in blip? keybuk's converted just fine for some reason
[20:07] <popey> i have asked them in the past and their general answer is "dunno"
[20:07]  * maco looks around
[20:07] <popey> so i have had to download videos and encode myself then re-upload
[20:07] <nigelb> heh, nice answer.
[20:07] <maco> none of you were at HOPE, huh?
[20:08] <nigelb> maco: You were :p
[20:08] <maco> there was "Wikileaks:  The Ballet" with a poem about unicorns set to a tune
[20:08] <jcastro> popey: is there a oneliner for ogv->flv conversion you have?
[20:08] <popey> :)
[20:08] <popey> leave it to me, I'll do it
[20:09] <jcastro> popey: <3 thanks so much
[20:09] <popey> np
[20:10] <maco> www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1i2-tA0dKU
[20:10] <maco> ^^^ Wikileaks: The Ballet...and the last unicorn
[20:12] <nigelb> maco: hahaha.  Still loading but I like what I see.
[20:14] <jcastro> popey: I assume once the flv is fixed the youtube export will just work
[20:14] <jcastro> jono: I can go early if you'd like
[20:14] <nigelb> Just work (TM)
[20:14] <popey> hope so
[20:16] <jono> jcastro, I about to grab lunch and then will ping you
[20:16] <jono> thanks for the offer jcastro
[20:16] <vish> akgraner: nooooooo!  i cant get it out of my head!
[20:16] <vish> narwhals!!!!
[20:17] <vish> too catchy :p
[20:19] <akgraner> vish, isn't it great!!!
[20:19] <akgraner> I love the codenames :-)
[20:19] <vish> hehe , i was feeling sleepy , once i heard that , feel like jumping!  its 1am here! :D
[20:19] <akgraner> can I have a narwhal on my desktop now?  Please and Thank You! :-D
[20:20] <nigelb> whoa
[20:20] <nigelb> 1 am
[20:20] <akgraner> or at least a narwhal as my messaging indicator instead of an envelope :-D
[20:20]  * nigelb hadn't kept track of time!
[20:20] <akgraner> I hate the wiki's today
[20:20] <akgraner> it ate a whole bunch of links.... now i gotta find them again
[20:43] <czajkowski> bah where did paul go
[20:47] <highvoltage> paul!?
[20:47] <nigelb> paultag!
[20:47] <highvoltage> ah
[20:51] <jono> jcastro, all set
[20:54] <nigelb> czajkowski: he' here!
[20:55] <jcastro> jono: one tick pls.
[20:57] <jcastro> jono: all set
[20:57] <jono> jcastro, one moment
[21:06] <czajkowski> CAn all teams please have wiki pages like this :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam/TeamReApproval2010
[21:06] <czajkowski> WOW
[21:17] <doctormo> jono, jcastro, paultag, pleia2: New Name! http://doctormo.org/2010/08/17/ubuntu-narwhal/
[21:18] <paultag> doctormo: heh I saw that
[21:18] <jcastro> doctormo: welcome to an hour ago. :D
[21:18] <jcastro> nice pic though
[21:18] <paultag> +1 jcastro
[21:18] <paultag> OLDER THEN THE INTERNET
[21:19] <czajkowski> paultag: oi get over there and into meeting
[21:19] <doctormo> jcastro: Hey it takes time to draw and colour in you know!
[21:19] <jcastro> <3
[21:19] <akgraner> i want a narwhal...just sayin
[21:19] <doctormo> akgraner: drawn or shipped to you in a crate?
[21:20] <pleia2> akgraner: will you keep it in your bathtub?
[21:20] <akgraner> both :-)  but Pete said "NO" to a pony so I know he'll say no to a narwhal
[21:20] <paultag> czajkowski: yes ma'am :(
[21:20] <doctormo> jcastro: That's inkscape vector by the way, so useful for fun material later in the next cycle.
[21:21] <nigelb> pleia2: akgraner can request for donations in podcast.  We accept cash, card, and Narwahl :p
[21:21] <akgraner> woo hoo *FINALLY* got UWN published... one of these days that will get easier
[21:21] <doctormo> akgraner: tools
[21:21] <akgraner> nigelb, hehehe
[21:21] <nigelb> :D
[21:22] <akgraner> doctormo, yep I need some but have no clue how to describe what I need
[21:22] <doctormo> akgraner: user's dilemma, that's what project developers and designers are for no?
[21:25] <akgraner> doctormo, :-) yeppers
[21:26] <jcastro> does the u1 music store come up for anyone in maverick?
[21:26] <jcastro> mine just sits there about 50% loaded
[21:29] <Technoviking> natty?
[21:30] <Technoviking> Is UDS going to be at SeaWorld in Orlando:)
[21:30] <nigelb> Technoviking: Disney land.
[21:30] <nigelb> :p
[21:32] <AlanBell> doctormo: nice design! I like the gnome foot
[21:33] <doctormo> akgraner: For you http://imagebin.ca/view/tKDM3zQ.html
[21:34] <doctormo> AlanBell: I'm wondering how many people get that part of it.
[21:35] <Pendulum> nigelb: disney world, disneyland is in California :P
[21:40] <paultag> hahaha
[21:40] <paultag> +1 Pendulum
[21:41] <Pendulum> my ex is a certified disney obssessive
[21:41] <pleia2> yeah, disney world is where cinderella's castle is, sleeping beauty's is at disney land
[21:43] <doctormo> pleia2: Which one has Mulan's modest chinese-ish house?
[21:44] <pleia2> doctormo: is there one?
[21:44] <doctormo> no/
[21:44] <pleia2> poor mulan, no castle
[21:45] <pleia2> I think only white princesses get castles :\
[21:45] <Pendulum> well, only 2 princesses get castles
[21:45] <doctormo> pleia2: She was offered the chance to become the emperors chief advisor of all of china and turned it down for a man/her family/unknown crazyness.
[21:45] <pleia2> pocahontas doesn't, tiana doesnt (but she has a lovely restaurant!)
[21:45] <Pendulum> it's not like all the white princesses have castles either
[21:45] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, boo
[21:45] <AlanBell> http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thedudette/nostalgia-chick/12823-mulan
[21:45] <doctormo> AlanBell: Heh, you watcht hat too
[21:45] <pleia2> belle and ariel have nice castles too
[21:46] <AlanBell> doctormo: yeah, she is awesome
[21:47] <Pendulum> pleia2: does Princess Tiana get a castle? (I haven't seen Princess and the Frog :-/ )
[21:47] <pleia2> Pendulum: she gets a restaurant (which was her dream)
[21:47] <pleia2> and a player husband who is magically reformed from his player lifestyle by the goodness of tiana
[21:48] <Pendulum> :-/
[21:48] <doctormo> AlanBell: I've been enjoying AT4W and sfdebris
[21:48] <doctormo> pleia2: She changed a man!
[21:49] <pleia2> doctormo: it sure is a fairy tale :)
[21:58] <akgraner> doctormo, you rock!
[21:58] <akgraner> :-)
[21:59] <doctormo> akgraner: your welcome :-)
[22:15] <nigelb> Pendulum: not very sane at 2:45
[22:17] <Pendulum> nigelb: fair enough
[22:17] <Pendulum> sleep :P
[22:18] <nigelb> Pendulum: did pln to go to bed
[22:18] <nigelb> realized i need to wash socks.
[22:21] <nigelb> Pendulum: now I end up watchng debconf videos.
[22:21] <nigelb> I'm awesome, aren't I?
[22:21] <nigelb> :p
[22:25] <czajkowski> new LoCo team just got Approved Asturian LoCo
[22:25] <pleia2> :)
[22:26]  * nigelb off.
[22:26] <Pendulum> g'night nigelb
[22:27] <AlanBell> czajkowski: where is that?
[22:28] <czajkowski> pleia2: aye :)
[22:28] <czajkowski> Spain
[22:29] <AlanBell> great
[22:30] <czajkowski> new mexico and chicago got re approved
[22:32] <czajkowski> jono: am free now if you are
[22:32] <jono> czajkowski, sorry, on the phone still
[22:32] <jono> nearly done
[22:33] <czajkowski> grin
[22:33] <czajkowski> ok
[22:33] <jcastro> czajkowski: I'll chat with you instead.
[22:33] <jcastro> czajkowski: tomorrow is tattoo day!
[22:33] <czajkowski> ohhhh
[22:33] <czajkowski> I'm promising myself when I go to NZ next year to get one :D
[22:34] <czajkowski> jcastro: how long will yours take?
[22:34] <jcastro> probably 4 hours again, it's another half sleeve
[22:36] <czajkowski> hmm the sitting still for 4 hrs may kill me
[22:36] <czajkowski> the place I got to in limerick the guy smokes so he likes breaks
[22:37] <jcastro> I took alot of breaks
[22:37] <jcastro> at least every 20 minutes iirc
[22:37] <jcastro> no color this time so I won't be crying at least
[22:37] <jono> czajkowski, all set
[22:37] <czajkowski> it;s the shading that kills me
[22:37] <czajkowski> jono: I've no skype here today can you buzz me on mobile
[22:38] <jono> czajkowski, sure, msg me your mobile
[22:38] <czajkowski> got the email with subject agenda 11/8/10 call
[22:38] <doctormo> OK this is the craziest thing ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc
[22:38] <pleia2> doctormo: have a moment to talk marketing materials?
[22:39] <doctormo> pleia2: Absolutly!
[23:34] <czajkowski> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/08/17/august-17th-loco-council-meeting/ LoCo council this evening


[14:24] <bladernr-malta> anyone know who owns libxslt?  I need someone to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxslt/+bug/1449626
[14:45] <dandruczyk_work> Anyone else get hit with 14.04LTS 3.13.0-51.84 kernel panic'ing on boot ???  all of my environments got killed by this today and i have to rollback to .49
[14:46] <dandruczyk_work> http://imgur.com/y1531Bl
[14:47] <penguin42> hmm that's not fun
[14:47] <dandruczyk_work> seems tied to any process that uses unix domain sockets (in this case php5-fpm was starting up which uses them)
[14:48] <penguin42> I've not got a 14.04LTS to hand
[14:48] <dandruczyk_work> env runs on VMware ESXi 5.5, evey node panic'd (over 12) shortly after boot,  the SQL servers made it slightly longer before they hit the same failure
[14:49] <penguin42> lets see, 14.04 is trusty isn't it, I've got a VM I've not booted in a while
[14:50]  * penguin42 updates it
[14:51] <penguin42> dandruczyk_work: Bug report it anyway and then lets see if anyone else hits it
[14:51] <dandruczyk_work> working on it,  the link is not easy to find
[14:52] <penguin42> dandruczyk_work: Just run ubuntu-bug linux    from any ubuntu terminal on a 14.04 box
[14:52] <dandruczyk_work> the main issue is since this is on vmware esxi I cannot capture the top part of the OOPS
[14:53] <penguin42> yeh, that's life - if you can get a serial console output you might be able to, if you're really lucky it'll be in some logs on disk
[14:54] <dandruczyk_work> the trouble with "ubuntu-bug linux" is that it'll be on the WORKING kernel,  not the failed one. , I'll have to patch something together, otherwise it'll generate a bogus report against the wrong kernel release
[14:54] <penguin42> no, it's ok
[14:54] <penguin42> it's OK to run the report using the working one and attach the screenshot
[14:55] <penguin42> I'd boot to the failing one, then reboot to the working one, if you're lucky there maybe some boot logs from the failed boot
[14:55] <dandruczyk_work> k
[14:56] <penguin42> I mean sure it would be best to report it on the failing kernel, but hey that's ok when stuff is that broken
[14:56] <dandruczyk_work> yeah it never gets past the crash to a prompt to do anything, so i have to do it from a working one
[14:58]  * penguin42 has to go out in a few minutes, but please post the bug number you get here, and also add it as a comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1444141
[14:59] <penguin42> If I had to guess I'd bet it's the fix that went in for bug 1439441 that's audit related
[15:04] <dandruczyk_work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1450504
[15:08] <penguin42> I've marked it as 'critical'
[15:08] <dandruczyk_work> thanks
[15:10] <penguin42> did you add a comment to that other bug?
[15:11] <dandruczyk_work> i have not, should I
[15:12] <penguin42> I will
[15:13] <penguin42> added
[15:13] <dandruczyk_work> i just did,  sorry if i stepped on you
[15:13] <dandruczyk_work> parallel paths..
[15:13] <penguin42> hehe oh well
[15:13]  * penguin42 waits for his VM to finish upgrading
[15:22] <penguin42> dandruczyk_work: 51.84 booted into a desktop fine here in a kvm quest
[15:22] <dandruczyk_work> is audit enabled and do you have apache installed and enabled?
[15:22] <penguin42> hmm, it'll be a default trusty install, so probably not - what's the quick way to enable audit?
[15:24] <dandruczyk_work> service auditd start?
[15:24] <penguin42> ok, just give me a sec
[15:24] <dandruczyk_work> though you may need to configure the rules.
[15:25] <dandruczyk_work> in my case I saw the crash when apache tried to start,  but my apache config isn't anything close to "stock",
[15:25] <dandruczyk_work> I suspected the issue was either with audit or unix domain sockets..,  let me turn off audit on my test vm nad see how it explodes..
[15:26] <penguin42> yeh, I've got auditd running and apache installed now
[15:27] <penguin42> ok, so not immediately triggering - anyway, got to go out, add stuff to the bug if you figure more out
[15:28] <dandruczyk_work> k,  my setup uses php5-fpm using unix domain sockets and apache configured to use fastcgi passthrough over those sockets...
[15:28] <dandruczyk_work> a somewhat unconventional setup, but works well.
[15:29] <dandruczyk_work> with audit disabled it managed to boot and startup OK
[15:45] <dandruczyk_work> my audit rules trigger it.  unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at (null)   in strlen+0x0/0x30
[15:45] <dandruczyk_work> details at the end of:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1444141