[12:03] <Zaire> well if the live cd is 650 I might aswell re-format lol Ive already done so on this thing like prob 10 times in the last week lol
[12:03] <satempler> okk
[12:04] <Zaire> only 3 linux distro's Ive used seem to run stable for me and they are Redhat 9, ugh mandriva 10.2 and Debian lol
[12:04] <satempler> wow
[12:04] <satempler> well Ubuntu and Kubuntu is an off shoot of Debian
[12:05] <satempler> based on debin unstable
[12:05] <Zaire> unstable?
[12:05] <satempler> made stable
[12:06] <satempler> Zaire: debians unstable is stable pretty much for the rest of the world
[12:06] <Zaire> I liked debian cept for the sound issue with skype that kinda dropped some points for it but thats more skypes doing then anything lol
[12:07] <satempler> ya Skype has some issues
[12:07] <satempler> I have stoped using it
[12:07] <Xaero_Vincent> the only problem i have with Ubuntu is that if it kills Debian (unlikely), Ubuntu would be in serious trouble. Basically Ubuntu is dependent on another distribution
[12:08] <robotgeek> Xaero_Vincent: not going to happen, really
[12:08] <satempler> Xaero_Vincent: no Ubuntu won't kill debian but helps debian
[12:09] <satempler> all the things Ubuntu dose gose back to debian unstable tree
[12:09] <satempler> i would think
[12:09] <Zaire> yea both are good like all system both need work but it will get done lol
[12:10] <Xaero_Vincent> if people move to Ubuntu to get away from Debian politics then they have alot to lose. People would stop maintaining packages for the unstable branch because nobody is using Debain but rather offshoots of it..
[12:11] <robotgeek> Xaero_Vincent: what debian politics?
[12:12] <Zaire> dunno what mean by politic either but anyway lol Nvidia crash's seem to be a theme lol a friend of mine has an ATI and Kubuntu works great for him but on bugzilla for ubuntu if you search for Nvidia+crash you should get a fair amount of results lol
[12:12] <Xaero_Vincent> debian has a democratic government (sort of speak).. u vote for members and such.  It's no biggie though, I just downloaded the Beta CD and will apt-cdrom add to upgrade
[12:43] <Nirvana|> OdyX: ChatZilla on Windows
[12:44] <OdyX> fine !
[12:44] <Nirvana|> just finished
[01:22] <method|> what is a good ftp client for kde?
[01:23] <OdyX> method|: Konqueror...
[01:24] <OdyX> type<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:28] <method|> I need something with a bit more functionality
[01:28] <method|> i need a client that makes it easy to transfer between two different sites
[01:28] <method|> and one that has a download queue that i can add too
[01:30] <noteventime> method|, gftp :D it's not KDE but it's OK. YOu can use split view in konqueror
[01:30] <noteventime> Just right click the status bar
[01:31] <method|> gftp doesn't have a queue that you can add too
[01:31] <method|> to*
[01:31] <method|> that's what im using now
[01:31] <method|> it find except for that
[01:31] <method|> fine*
[01:32] <noteventime> Have you tried kbear?
[01:32] <method|> nope
[01:32] <method|> might give it a go
[01:32] <noteventime> Theres also one called kasablanka
[01:33] <OdyX> and command-line ftp ... :-|
[01:33] <noteventime> IMO konqueror is the best :D, maybe theres some kind of plugin
[01:33] <method|> thanks
[01:37] <noch> hey, how come when i try to set a pic as my background it does do it? when i say set centered, by background goes blue, when i say set tiled, it goes to white
[01:37] <andre_> after a recent update all my fonts appear very small anyone have an idea why?
[01:37] <andre_> after a recent update all my fonts appear very small anyone have an idea why?
[01:42] <OdyX> andre_: use nvidia ?
[01:42] <psyke83> has anyone here got a rage 128-based card?
[01:46] <ToyMan> hmm. perhaps someone could help me with a dapper upgrade....
[01:46] <ToyMan> all of my kde apps were de-installed and not re-installed
[01:46] <ToyMan> trying to reinstall with synaptic, and it complains about a krita dependancy
[01:47] <andre_> OdyX: Yes
[01:47] <ToyMan> might be easier to move my home dir. off to another spot and reinstall from scratch
[01:48] <ToyMan> ok, removed krita and krita-data and it still complains.... hmmm.
[01:48] <OdyX> andre_: this is a known bug...
[01:48] <OdyX> andre_: KDM guesses DRI wrongly:
[01:49] <bimberi> ToyMan: an upgrade tool has been developed for breezy -> dapper ...
[01:49] <bimberi> !upgrade
[01:49] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[01:49] <andre_> OdyX: whats the fix??
[01:49] <ahmeni> OdyX: DRI? do you mean DPI?
[01:50] <OdyX> ahmeni: yep...
[01:50] <ToyMan> bimberi, ty
[01:50] <OdyX> andre_: open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc in sudo
[01:50] <OdyX> andre_: at the end of the line ServerArgsLocal
[01:51] <OdyX> add -dpi 100
[01:51] <OdyX> (for example)
[01:51] <OdyX> restart X
[01:51] <bimberi> ToyMan: yw :)
[01:51] <OdyX> bug 37072
[01:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 37072 in kdebase kdm "After installing (and enabling) of nvidia-glx, KDM makes wrong DRI guesses" [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/37072
[01:52] <andre_> i actually use GDM. i dont like kdm much
[01:55] <OdyX> andre_: so I can't help you. sorry.
[01:55] <andre_> you helped quite a bit actually.
[01:55] <andre_> thanks
[01:55] <OdyX> no worry
[01:58] <Nirvana|> hibernation doesn't work on my Toshiba Satellite M70 SR2, is there a fix? It doesn't work on some other Toshiba's either (from what I've seen, not heard)
[01:59] <ToyMan> ! repos
[01:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:00] <ToyMan> !easysource
[02:00] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:02] <Phleagor_> hi
[02:02] <Phleagor_> i just installed kubuntu
[02:02] <Phleagor_> and i can't login as root
[02:03] <Phleagor_> i read that there is no passwort set, but i just can't login
[02:03] <bimberi> ubotu: tell Phleagor_ about root
[02:04] <bimberi> Phleagor_: you can use 'sudo' and 'kdesu' when you need superuser privs (see the /msg from ubotu)
[02:06] <riri> Hi
[02:06] <riri> i have no cdrom
[02:06] <riri> just the livecd
[02:06] <riri> how can i start it from linux ?
[02:06] <riri> sorry i mean the beta version
[02:08] <Phleagor_> boot from that cd
[02:08] <riri> sorry i didn't explain well ... i only have the iso
[02:09] <riri> no cd
[02:09] <riri> i have the iso on linux... mandriva
[02:09] <riri> is there a way to try it as iso ?
[02:09] <Phleagor_> burn the image on a cd and boot from it
[02:09] <Phleagor_> no
[02:09] <riri> i have no cd...
[02:10] <riri> blank cd
[02:10] <Phleagor_> ah
[02:10] <riri> sorry
[02:10] <riri> it's just to give a try
[02:10] <riri> i know i could use vmplayer
[02:11] <riri> but on mandriva it's terrible slow
[02:11] <Chris_Tucker> now i remember why having one taskbar didnt bother me.. it can be set wider so it gets two lines of windows in there :D
[02:11] <riri> otherwise i have to wait till shop is open in france ! lol
[02:12] <riri> it's only 2h am here..
[02:12] <Phleagor_> don't the shops open tomorrow?
[02:12] <riri> yes... 10h
[02:12] <riri> but you know i can't wait ...
[02:13] <Phleagor_> k
[02:13] <riri> i would like to know if i can get rid of mandriva with kubuntu...
[02:13] <Phleagor_> i installed it 30 mins ago
[02:13] <Phleagor_> and it's great
[02:13] <riri> i stick to mandriva because network and squid easy to configure
[02:13] <Phleagor_> i used mandrake 10.1 official before
[02:14] <riri> i believe you...
[02:14] <viator> get the vmware player image
[02:14] <viator> and run it
[02:14] <Phleagor_> kubuntu is more easy to configure
[02:14] <riri> are you sure for the network ?
[02:14] <Phleagor_> when you boot the cd you just have to hit the enter key a few times :)
[02:14] <riri> yes i know
[02:14] <Phleagor_> everything works
[02:14] <riri> but i have a network with two pc
[02:15] <riri> and my other notbook is on xp
[02:15] <riri> so i need to configure network
[02:17] <riri> you know mandriva asks you if you want to connect to internet and a click your other pc works
[02:17] <riri> i tried with kubuntu 5.0.1 i think
[02:17] <riri> but more complex to install network
[02:17] <riri> did it change ?
[02:17] <Phleagor_> i don't know
[02:18] <riri> yes
[02:18] <Phleagor_> i use it the first time
[02:18] <riri> i guess
[02:18] <riri> thanks
[02:18] <riri> but i already used kubuntu
[02:18] <Phleagor_> do tou use KDE?
[02:18] <riri> and i couldn't configure my network even with the doc
[02:18] <riri> yes
[02:18] <viator> whats so difficult
[02:19] <riri> kde3.5.2
[02:19] <Phleagor_> how can i create a custom icon in the taskbar?
[02:19] <riri> very easy
[02:19] <Phleagor_> i can just choose an app in the menu
[02:19] <viator> right cvlick
[02:19] <Phleagor_> but it's not in the menu
[02:19] <riri> if you have it the menu
[02:20] <Phleagor_> but it's not
[02:20] <riri> select it with right mouse and choose the second option
[02:20] <riri> ok
[02:20] <viator> click add non kde\
[02:20] <viator> app
[02:20] <riri> then go on the taskbar (sorry i am french)
[02:20] <riri> ok
[02:20] <riri> lol
[02:21] <Phleagor_> thx
[02:22] <Phleagor_> i got it
[02:22] <Phleagor_> and i thought KDE is easy to use...
[02:22] <Phleagor_> i used fluxbox before
[02:22] <riri> kde is very easy to use
[02:22] <viator> kde is simple in some respects but there are ALOT of options
[02:23] <viator> which makes it very configurable /powerful
[02:23] <viator> but sometimes cluttered and overwelming
[02:23] <viator> brb'
[02:28] <Search4Lancer> ugh what a pain.... can't update any packages without a 6.06 disc....
[02:29] <Search4Lancer> and I left my blanks at home
[02:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Why can't you update?
[02:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Something wrong with your repos?
[02:31] <Search4Lancer> because it won't let me without a 6.06 disc
[02:31] <Search4Lancer> it asks for it
[02:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> comment out the deb-cdrom line in sources.list
[02:32] <Search4Lancer> beena couple weeks since I touched it
[02:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's there. :)
[02:34] <Search4Lancer> updating now, thanks
[02:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :)
[02:38] <Ahmuck> hi, how is beta
[02:41] <Phleagor_> fine, now i just have to get my dvb card work and ecerything works
[02:44] <yanis> I get this when I try to configure a program
[02:44] <yanis> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[02:44] <yanis> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:44] <yanis> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:45] <yanis> what should I do?
[02:47] <Phleagor_> which program?
[02:48] <yanis> kmplayer
[02:48] <yanis> but I get hte same messange when I try to compile other app too
[02:48] <yanis> I have kubuntu
[02:48] <bimberi> yanis: try installing kdebase-dev
[02:49] <yanis> thanks bimberi
[02:49] <yanis> oops it's 10mb P
[02:55] <crimsun> !info automake1.6
[02:55] <ubotu> automake1.6: (A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles.), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.6.3-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 304 kB, Installed size: 1120 kB
[02:59] <poimen> need help
[02:59] <poimen> I need to configure net on dapper
[02:59] <poimen> but I woint get the kcontrol net configuration tool to work
[02:59] <poimen> I use dhcp
[02:59] <poimen> how can I start the net manually by the shell?
[03:02] <tarmath> poimen: dhclient3
[03:03] <bleaked> so i've been playing around with composite..using the built in composite manager in kde, i've successfully enabled transparency, shadows, and fade-in effects.  it really looks great.  however, when enabled, my kicker seems more dim..looks gray and not milky white like it should be.  is this just a setting, or intrinsic to the composite mode?
[03:12] <yanis> bimberi: it works :)
[03:12] <jonathan_> is anyone having problems with adept updater in kubuntu beta?
[03:12] <bimberi> yanis: phew! :P
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: I'm not using the beta, so I can't help there. I can offer an alternative via the command line though.
[03:13] <jonathan_> yeah that i know :)
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK. :)
[03:13] <jonathan_> it was just a little easier with adept
[03:13] <jonathan_> thank you though
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> I personally find that YaKuake and apt are very convenient. :)
[03:14] <jonathan_> what is the big thing with that
[03:14] <Chris_Tucker> how do i set firefox as my default browser and thunderbird as my default mail app? web links seem to cling to konq
[03:14] <jonathan_> i have heard that thrown around a bit
[03:14] <yanis> so kmplayer rocks :)
[03:14] <poimen> :)
[03:14] <poimen> I am at dapper I need to play mp3s
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Chris_Tucker: Just a minute.
[03:14] <poimen> akode-mpeg wont work :(
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Chris_Tucker: Control Center > KDE Components > Component Chooser
[03:15] <jonathan_> poimen...hang on i have a link for you
[03:15] <jonathan_> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[03:15] <jonathan_> there...that's the starter guide, i used it and things setup nicely
[03:16] <poimen> thankx brother
[03:16] <jonathan_> yup
[03:18] <jonathan_> so burger man....what's the deal with yakuake?
[03:18] <Chris_Tucker> CheeseBurgerMan, should i need to log out and back in for it to take affect? it doesnt appear to have worked
[03:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Chris_Tucker: I don't think so
[03:19] <jonathan_> chris: are you sure you have the correct command ?
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: It's quite cool. It's a hidden console emulator that scrolls out of your way until you press F12 (I think that's the default, I've changed it)
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> I find it very convenient. :)
[03:19] <Chris_Tucker> CheeseBurgerMan, well its still all going to konq
[03:20] <jonathan_> is there a deb pack for it
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: It's in the repos. :)
[03:20] <jonathan_> ok i'll look at it
[03:22] <Phleagor> anyone using a dvb card with kubuntu 5.10?
[03:22] <Phleagor> the channels are all grey in kaffeine
[03:23] <Phleagor> but they are all scanned, so the card works
[03:23] <Phleagor> but i can't click at one to see it
[03:24] <cjones> how do you gor back a version like from the dapper bata ?
[03:25] <cjones> hello
[03:25] <cjones> anyone here
[03:30] <os2mac> anyone play around with google cal yet?
[03:34] <poimen> Riddel
[03:35] <poimen> Riddell how esspresso doing?
[03:36] <poimen> someone knows how to set up dma on dapper?
[03:36] <poimen> hdparm config file I dont see it
[03:36] <poimen> :(
[03:37] <frank23> poimen: I thought dma was enabled by default on dapper. Not quite sure though
[03:37] <poimen> I see
[03:38] <frank23> poimen: try hdparm /dev/hdc   to check
[03:38] <poimen> yep gppd idea
[03:38] <poimen> good*
[03:49] <[Nirvana] > The new theme is pretty good
[04:06] <Kteeh> hi there, I'm having problem activating USB ports for normal user
[04:06] <Kteeh> when I enter as root I can mount and umount /dev/sda1 (USB) flash 512 MB memory
[04:07] <Kteeh> but I can't with another users
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> is your system up to date?
[04:07] <Kteeh> yup
[04:07] <Kteeh> I'm running breezy
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[04:08] <Kteeh> the problem is...I need to restart hotplug as root everytime I wanna read something
[04:08] <DarkED> hey i have a question
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> so when you plug it in it just sits silent?
[04:08] <DarkED> im using the newest xchat in kde
[04:08] <Kteeh> after the USB is mounted as root, I can't delete or modify files as "normal" user
[04:08] <DarkED> why does the type cursor not show up?
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Kteeh, yeh. thats expected
[04:08] <Kteeh> hehehe
[04:08] <Kteeh> I know
[04:09] <Kteeh> but...why I can't mount the USB as normal user
[04:09] <DarkED> Kteeh: dont worry bout it, mount it as root then do sudo nautilus/sudo konqueror :D
[04:09] <DarkED> Kteeh, enjoy :D
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> DarkED, thats not a fix :(
[04:09] <DarkED> Kamping_Kaiser, it is on my NTFS partition
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> as for your question DarkED - was it svn?
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> DarkED, mount it properly already :/
[04:10] <DarkED> Kamping_Kaiser, svn?
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> DarkED, subversion... did you compile from source from apt or subversion
[04:11] <DarkED> Kamping_Kaiser, oh, no i used apt in dapper
[04:11] <DarkED> Kamping_Kaiser, apt-get xchat
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb Hobbsee
[04:11] <Hobbsee> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> DarkED, check out LP
[04:11] <DarkED> LP
[04:11] <DarkED> irc client?
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> launchpad
[04:12] <DarkED> launchpad, ok
[04:13] <Kteeh> hi there
[04:13] <Kteeh> can someone give me a feedback, in order to know why I have to restart hotplug each time I need to read a USB flash drive
[04:13] <Kteeh> ?
[04:16] <DarkED> Kamping_Kaiser, uh, i dont think i have it installed...
[04:17] <DarkED> and there is no such package
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> DarkED, http://launchpad.net
[04:19] <bimberi> DarkED: launchpad is a website http://launchpad.net .  It's where you can report bugs on packages
[04:20] <DarkED> ahh ok, thanks
[04:20] <DarkED> sorry, never been there before
[04:20] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: 'morning (just)
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, i should have explained
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday bimberi, still morning here ;)
[04:21] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: yep, a few minutes left :)
[04:22] <bimberi> (for you that is)
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> 8 ;D
[04:22] <bimberi> 12:22 'ere
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> 11:52
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser>  offset 0.202292 sec <- not bad. its usualy up to 15 sec out
[04:25] <bimberi> hm 'offset 5.916158 sec' here
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> :/
[04:27] <bimberi> how extensive is the network?
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2 static boxes, half a dozen dynamic
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool.
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have my desktop, my laptop, my parents box, and then dynamic boxes
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> hopefully soon a gateway and server
[04:30] <bimberi> ah, nice
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> *looks at 166 just waiting for gateway duty*
[04:32] <bimberi> IPCop?
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> debian sarge
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> something i know a bit about
[04:32] <bimberi> ah
[04:32] <DarkED> I have two laptops and a desktop
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> my dynamic boxes are mostly work boxes i'm trying to get some testing done on (like the laptops for ubuntus laptop team)
[04:34] <bimberi> ah, kk
[04:34] <bimberi> at work i use IPCop on a PPro-180 for a gateway - it's very good
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> i hear its good, but i was told ipfrog was the way to live ;)
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> built in p2p server o_0 (i mean wtf?)
[04:58] <rey> salve
[05:04] <m5m>  /window close
[05:05] <m5m> erp
[05:29] <Nomad411> Hi.. I'm trying to build a DVD of OpenSuse for a friend and I need autoyast in order to create it.  Does anyone know if it will run on Kubuntu^
[05:29] <Nomad411> ?
[05:30] <kkathman> Nomad411: no
[05:31] <Nomad411> arghhh..
[05:31] <Nomad411> you sure?  I guess you are :(
[05:32] <Nomad411> so much download.  Must learn to read ahead!!
[05:32] <kkathman> Nothing of SuSE -YaST has a chance to work with Kubuntu
[05:32] <kkathman> two totally different systems :)
[05:32] <kkathman> I run both in a dual boot
[05:33] <Nomad411> To try and not have this be a total waste of time and bandwidth, do you think it<s possible to boot with a network install iso and run the yast command from there?
[05:34] <Nomad411> It"s just needed in order to create teh package description file(s)
[05:34] <kkathman> Nomad411:  Im not sure what you are trying to do
[05:34] <kkathman> but I see no way to get yast and kubntu to even play in the same ballpark :)
[05:35] <kkathman> you might want to go to #suse and ask your question tho Nomad411
[05:35] <Nomad411> I downloaded the 5 ISO Cds and followed the instructions to create a DVD from them:  http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs#Manually_build_a_DVD_from_the_CD-Set
[05:35] <Nomad411> I did..
[05:35] <tarmath> what do you want to do on kubuntu?
[05:35] <kkathman> I thought there was a DVD image also
[05:36] <Nomad411> I'm running Kubuntu.  A friend of mine is new to Linux and asked me to create him the DVD instead of CDs
[05:36] <Nomad411> is there?
[05:36] <tarmath> just grab the dvd iso and burn it
[05:36] <kkathman> for OpenSuse right?
[05:36] <Nomad411> I think you have to order it and get it mailed
[05:36] <Nomad411> yes
[05:36] <kkathman> you can burn it under kubuntu I would imagine
[05:36] <Nomad411> He wants to compare it to Ubuntu
[05:37] <kkathman> but I dont know why you would need yast
[05:37] <kkathman> k3b should do it I'd figure
[05:37] <kkathman> or whatever your tool is
[05:37] <Nomad411> for this command:   create_package_descr -x setup/descr/EXTRA_PROV -l english -l spanish -l french -l german -l czech -l hungarian -l italian
[05:37] <kkathman> ohhh hmmm... I see
[05:38] <Nomad411> The 5 ISOs content is dumped into 1 directory, and then it looks like the package descriptions have got to be remade
[05:38] <tarmath> i guess you canonly create that dvd image from the cds with suse
[05:38] <kkathman> ahh
[05:38] <kkathman> I thought they had a DVD image tho
[05:38] <Nomad411> look slike it, must run SUSE to make SUSE :)
[05:39] <kkathman> why not just burn the 5 cds
[05:39] <Nomad411> kkathman: If you see a link to it anywhere I<d be happy to get it from you..  Maybe it<s only visible if you already run SUSE.. hehe
[05:39] <kkathman> you might could have done that already while trying to figure out how to make theDVD :)
[05:39] <Nomad411> kkathman: I didn<t question him, he asked for a DVD
[05:39] <Nomad411> I did look for a DVD-iso, I find only CDs
[05:40] <kkathman> what kind of machine does he have
[05:40] <kkathman> 386 or 64
[05:40] <Nomad411> Oh shoot!!  There is an unofficial ISO now.. 32 .  he needs 64
[05:41] <Nomad411> I think I<ll get the 32 for myself :)
[05:41] <Nomad411> I haven<t run SUSE in ages, I<m curious to see where it<s at these days.  It was pretty sold back then
[05:42] <kkathman> NOmad:  http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/ftp/mirrors_isos.html#americas
[05:42] <kkathman> sorry Nomad411:  http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/ftp/mirrors_isos.html#americas
[05:42] <kkathman> hehe
[05:43] <kkathman> that has the DVD isos
[05:43] <Nomad411> nut not the opensuse one
[05:43] <Nomad411> nut = but :)
[05:44] <kkathman> its fine
[05:44] <kkathman> 10.0 is what you want
[05:44] <kkathman> you can get everything else later
[05:44] <TheUni> bah
[05:44] <TheUni> my boot settings are totally screwed up
[05:44] <TheUni> grub messed up, so i reinstalled xp on a blank partition
[05:44] <TheUni> then tried to reinstall grub and have it pick it up, but installed grub on THAT partition
[05:45] <TheUni> any way to get windows to boot again without reinstalling it? its bootloader is gone.
[05:45] <kkathman> TheUni:  you have kubuntu somewhere?
[05:45] <kkathman> or not?
[05:45] <TheUni> yea, i can do the recovery stuffs
[05:45] <TheUni> but i'm currently in ubuntu.
[05:46] <kkathman> whats on your ubuntu...is it clean
[05:46] <kkathman> as in a clean install right now?
[05:46] <Nomad411> you dualboot Ubuntu and Kubuntu^
[05:46] <Nomad411> ?
[05:46] <TheUni> er... no. kubuntu
[05:46] <TheUni> kkathman: this is my main os that i'm in now. not clean. i want to use xp as secondary.
[05:46] <kkathman> TheUni:  hmm... well its always best to put XP on first, then install k/ubuntu
[05:47] <TheUni> yea
[05:47] <TheUni> kkathman: that's what i did first.
[05:47] <Nomad411> Oh ok.. There's a wiki page about that
[05:47] <TheUni> but then grub messed up
[05:47] <kkathman> because the k/ubuntu installer will sense the XP and put that in its bootloader
[05:47] <TheUni> so i figured i'd just reinstall xp, then reinstall grub.
[05:47] <kkathman> doing the other way around wont work
[05:47] <kkathman> once you have an XP bootloader, its much harder
[05:48] <kkathman> thats why you load it down 1st
[05:48] <TheUni> blah
[05:48] <TheUni> yea
[05:48] <TheUni> but
[05:48] <unperson> I'm trying to record sound with krec, but I can't seem to get anything.
[05:48] <TheUni> been using kubuntu for a few months now  :\
[05:48] <kkathman> most linux installs, if they use grub, will fix it all nice
[05:48] <unperson> I've tried recording from both my mic and from the sound_out.
[05:49] <kkathman> TheUni:  easiest thing....back up your ~/ directory and what ever you might want, and reinstall k/ubuntu and let it write its grub with the XP OS as an option
[05:49] <TheUni> *sigh*
[05:49] <unperson> krec has two sound levels shown in the window on the left hand side.  One is the recording level and the other is the sound level incomming, correct?  So I ought to see something there if krec is getting sound?
[05:49] <TheUni> was afraid that was gonna be the answer
[05:49] <TheUni> kkathman: well, thanks for the help
[05:49] <TheUni> but
[05:50] <kkathman> its a bit of time
[05:50] <kkathman> but reliable
[05:50] <TheUni> in the interests of learning linux
[05:50] <TheUni> i'm gonna try to hack around and get it fixed
[05:50] <TheUni> i'm sure i'll just end up doing that, though
[05:51] <Nomad411> kkathman: I just saw that eval i snot time-limited.  Weird name :)
[05:51] <Nomad411> thanks
[05:51] <kkathman> I never saw one with a time limit
[05:51] <kkathman> I'd go to #suse and get them to point you there tho
[05:52] <unperson> Anyone sucessfully been able to record sound with krec?
[05:54] <lgc> Hi. Anyone in here?
[05:54] <Hobbsee> lgc: nope :P
[05:54] <Hobbsee> TheUni: you can reinstall grub
[05:54] <lgc> Hobbsee, good! Now I can poke a finger in my nose!
[05:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:57] <TheUni> Hobbsee: but i've already overwritten the xp bootloader
[05:57] <Hobbsee> !tell TheUni about grub
[05:58] <TheUni> i guess i need to reinstall xp first, then reinstall grub?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> TheUni: your XP partition is fine?
[05:58] <kkathman> the bootloader is already gone Hobbsee
[05:58] <kkathman> so there's nothing to tell grub to link to
[05:58] <Search4Lancer> anybody know how many fortunes there are in /fortune?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> how'd it go?
[05:59] <kkathman> Well, I think maybe his attempt to reinstall grub might have done a little bit of damage :)
[05:59] <Hobbsee> i'd try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-32d586a32fe70f9e1accb80d55cf3d3f0600175a   ...but otherwise reinstall
[05:59] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:59] <Hobbsee> and backup first
[05:59] <TheUni> Hobbsee: xp partition is fine, yea. but the bootloader is gone.
[05:59] <kkathman> yah I thought if there was a way to boot to wins
[05:59] <kkathman> TheUni can you boot to Xp right now?
[05:59] <TheUni> no.
[05:59] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  thats what I mean
[06:00] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[06:00] <kkathman> NTBootLoader is a no show
[06:00] <Hobbsee> weird that grub screwed up that badly...if it's messed the partition table up
[06:00] <TheUni> Hobbsee: i'm sure i did it somehow
[06:00] <TheUni> i switched a bunch of drives around
[06:00] <Hobbsee> TheUni: you're on linux now?
[06:00] <TheUni> yea.
[06:00] <kkathman> TheUni  you might try the folks in ##windows, and see if they can help you get your bootloader back
[06:01] <TheUni> okee
[06:01] <Hobbsee> TheUni: before that
[06:01] <Hobbsee> try "sudo update-grub"
[06:01] <Hobbsee> just see what it does
[06:01] <kkathman> worth a shot I guess...cant hurt :)
[06:02] <Hobbsee> TheUni: if that doesnt work, type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install.
[06:03] <TheUni> Hobbsee: yea.. but xp bootloader needs to be there first, right?
[06:03] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  but.. his ubuntu is fine tho
[06:03] <kkathman> right
[06:03] <Hobbsee> TheUni: er...not sure about that.
[06:03] <kkathman> grub cant do anything without pointing to the bootloader
[06:03] <TheUni> right
[06:03] <TheUni> bah
[06:03] <TheUni> no windows data lost, not a big deal
[06:03] <Hobbsee> IIRC grub doesnt point to the bootloader - grub IS the boot loader
[06:03] <kkathman> Hobbsee: just like grub points to the loader in linux
[06:03] <TheUni> just an extra hour  :\
[06:04] <kkathman> well
[06:04] <kkathman> ok bad terminilogy
[06:04] <Hobbsee> maybe my brain is warped
[06:04] <kkathman> it points to the BOOT image
[06:04] <TheUni> Hobbsee: but windows has to know how to boot.
[06:04] <Hobbsee> TheUni: so, grub works fine, yet windows wont boot?
[06:04] <TheUni> ntloader has to be somewhere.
[06:04] <TheUni> Hobbsee: yup.
[06:05] <kkathman> TheUni - IF the boot image hasnt been damaged you can still use grub
[06:05] <kkathman> but
[06:05] <kkathman> Hobbsee can tell you by looking at her gurb
[06:05] <kkathman> grub
[06:05] <TheUni> when i'm in grub bootloader, and i choose to boot to the xp partition, it reloads grub. coz i accidentally overwrote the xp bootloader with another instance of grub.
[06:05] <Hobbsee> eww...and the second instance of grub wont boot xp?
[06:06] <kkathman> TheUni - but you just overwrote the bootloader
[06:06] <TheUni> yea it does, but it's the same as the first.
[06:06] <TheUni> yup
[06:06] <kkathman> Hobbsee  open your grub and see under the windows section what it points to
[06:06] <TheUni> Hobbsee: i tried that too.
[06:06] <kkathman> TheUni  listen
[06:07] <kkathman> Hobbsee should be able to show you what her grub entry is for Windows
[06:07] <kkathman> and you should be able to copy it
[06:07] <Hobbsee> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/678230
[06:07] <Hobbsee> there ^
[06:07] <Hobbsee> assuming your windows is on hda1
[06:07] <kkathman> cuz its not going to point to the bootloader for windows I dont thing
[06:07] <TheUni> sda1
[06:07] <lgc> Hobbsee, are you familiar with a "cdrecord" which just doesnt't?
[06:07] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  am I all wet here?
[06:07] <Hobbsee> lgc: no...i've heard of it, but know nothing about it
[06:07] <TheUni> yea, that's what mine looks like
[06:07] <kkathman> ahh
[06:08] <kkathman> crap
[06:08] <lgc> Hobbsee, np. Maybe someone in here is...
[06:08] <TheUni> bah
[06:08] <TheUni> well
[06:08] <kkathman> guess it DOES need the bootloader :(
[06:08] <TheUni> thanks for the help guys (and gals) but i'll just reinstall xp
[06:08] <TheUni> THEN
[06:08] <beefsprocket> TheUni: hang on
[06:08] <TheUni> reinstall grub
[06:08] <TheUni> on the right partition
[06:08] <TheUni> then it should pick it up
[06:08] <kkathman> yep
[06:08] <beefsprocket> there is a tool that I've used that can help I think
[06:09] <TheUni> grub needs to be on the root partition, no?
[06:09] <beefsprocket> I'm coming to this late, so I'm not totally sure what's up,
[06:09] <beefsprocket> but
[06:09] <Hobbsee> TheUni: usually wise
[06:09] <TheUni> k
[06:09] <kkathman> windows and linux sometimes dont play nice together :)
[06:10] <kkathman> unless you tell them to
[06:10] <beefsprocket> TheUni: if your mbr is messed up, use http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[06:10] <kkathman> hehe
[06:10] <TheUni> yea
[06:10] <TheUni> all this over activesync, lol
[06:13] <Nomad411> beefsprocket: Interesting tool
[06:13] <TheUni> very
[06:13] <beefsprocket> Nomad411: I destroyed an ntfs partition when starting out with warty, that saved 200gigs
[06:13] <TheUni> welp, off to try stuff
[06:14] <TheUni> thanks again guys
[06:14] <beefsprocket> so cool that its gpl too, could charge hundreds  for it
[06:14] <Nomad411> yup
[06:14] <Nomad411> long live free..
[06:14] <Nomad411> it fits in my budget
[06:14] <Nomad411> :)
[06:15] <beefsprocket> indeed
[06:15] <beefsprocket> anyone familiar with openssl 0.9.8a?
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> I once had an app setup to put my mrtg graphs from a webpage on my desktop, but I can't remember what I used to do that - anyone know of something like this?
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> not taking over my background, just individual images on my desktop.
[06:28] <ports-> anyone installed adobe acrobat on kubuntu?
[06:29] <Hobbsee> ports-: you looking to read or write pdf's?
[06:29] <ports-> readin
[06:29] <ports-> for now
[06:30] <Hobbsee> ports-: take a look at kpdf.  there's also a pdf reader in konq
[06:30] <ports-> Hobbsee:  ive got it installed.. i wanted to see what adobe acrobat for linux was like
[06:31] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[06:37] <Hobbsee> hmm...messy
[06:39] <ports-> Hobbsee: no.. setting up apache, mysql, and php is messy
[06:41] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:41] <mendred> ports- : Ah come on it isn't too bad...
[06:42] <ports-> mendred:  i havent started yet.. but its all new to me
[06:42] <mendred> ports-: the only time i had trouble was making those entries in apache's conf for php
[06:43] <mendred> ports:- apt-get is ur best friend :)
[06:43] <ports-> mendred:  how about adept
[06:43] <mendred> ports- :yeah anyone of those (synaptic, adept, apt etc..)
[06:44] <ports-> k
[06:45] <mendred> ports- u using kubuntu as a server?
[06:46] <dj_tasaka> anyone got an idea how to control acroread via dcop,d-bus, or any other sort of IPC?
[06:46] <dj_tasaka> specifically, how to tell it to close an open document?
[06:55] <ports-> mendred:  for a little while, yes
[06:56] <mendred> ports- k :)
[06:57] <ports-> Hobbsee:  hrm.. whatd be abetter option
[06:57] <Hobbsee> huh?
[06:57] <ports-> looked at the wrong screen
[06:58] <kkathman> yer such a guru girl :)
[06:58] <ports-> mendred:  whats a better option?
[06:58] <kkathman> rofl
[06:59] <mendred> ports-: not saying kubuntu is bad :)
[07:00] <ports-> but im sure theres another distro thats better prepared
[07:00] <mendred> ports-: heh that would be debian :)
[07:00] <ports-> ok
[07:02] <ports-> mendred:  well we're modifyin a Wordpress package to run a blog news source on campus... and i figured itd be easier to run the demo site on a local server that i controlled instead of at OIT servers on campus, or at an off campus host
[07:03] <mendred> ports- nice
[07:03] <ports-> main part is that the authentication system in Wordpress sucks.
[07:04] <ports-> we have to redo it from scratch.
[07:04] <mendred> ports- hmmm..i maybe wrong i haven't used Wordpress..
[07:04] <mendred> ports- but i was under the impression
[07:05] <mendred> ports- that it had an auth plugin system
[07:05] <ports-> let me check.. i didnt notice it
[07:06] <ports-> because i asked on the forum and the response was "you would need to code that'
[07:07] <mendred> ports- http://dev.webadmin.ufl.edu/~dwc/2005/03/02/authentication-plugins/
[07:07] <mendred> ports- i think after 1.5.1 u have plugins
[07:07] <mendred> ports- like i said i haven't used it..so i dunno how practical it is
[07:07] <mendred> ports- hope it helps neways
[07:08] <mendred> ports- http://dev.wp-plugins.org/
[07:09] <ports-> lessee if any of those do what i need
[07:09] <ports-> because the auth method we want is very paranoid
[07:10] <beefsprocket> ports-: doesn't wp have a good captcha plugin?
[07:10] <beefsprocket> or is that drupal?
[07:11] <mendred> ports- hmmm wots ur auth method ?
[07:11] <ports-> whats captcha
[07:11] <ports-> mendred: we need to do auth emails from the edu domain only..
[07:12] <mendred> ports- hmmm
[07:12] <beefsprocket> ports-: you know those alphanumeric grids where you have to type the text?
[07:12] <ports-> beefsprocket:  yes
[07:12] <beefsprocket> mostly good for stopping spammers or automated login attempts
[07:12] <ports-> beefsprocket: i hadnt thought of using that.. but that may be something to do also.
[07:12] <LeeJunFan> am I alone in getting a lot of errors with konqueror and google "connection broken"? If not - are you also using dapper?
[07:13] <beefsprocket> not on its own, but it limits the number of attempted breakins
[07:13] <crimsun> google works fine in konqueror here on dapper.
[07:13] <ports-> beefsprocket:  basic goal is to have a verified EDU address to every user on the site. therefore anyone that acts up... will be dealt with by the dean of students
[07:13] <beefsprocket> right
[07:14] <mendred> LeejunFan: yes on dapper.. no not facing problem..how do u reproduce it
[07:15] <ports-> beefsprocket:  i didnt think about useless/spam accounts too much since people wouldnt be able to write their own blogs... theyd simply by signing up so that they could respond to news articles, or talk in the discussion areas
[07:15] <beefsprocket> right, perhaps not needed then
[07:15] <beefsprocket> users sign themselves up?
[07:16] <Hobbsee> ports-: finally got it to wokr :D
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> mendred: I just keep getting it popping up in konq, trying to narrow it down to which network layer is the problem, :)
[07:16] <ports-> beefsprocket:  right.. and what we've planned for is that ill go to the site... request an account.. .. system requires that i use an EDU email account.. an auth code is sent to that account.. you verify it.. and then choose a password
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> mendred: was hoping for app layer, easiest to deal with.
[07:17] <ports-> Hobbsee:  congrats :)
[07:18] <Hobbsee> :
[07:18] <Hobbsee> )
[07:18] <Hobbsee> darn enter key
[07:18] <beefsprocket> ports-: that's way beyond me...
[07:18] <beefsprocket> anyways, night
[07:18] <ports-> beefsprocket:  ive got 2 guys from the CS dept that said they can design that system
[07:19] <beefsprocket> sounds like simple mysql queries mostly
[07:19] <bimberi> ooooh touchy :P
[07:19] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:20] <ports-> mendred:  With .htaccess files, you can use any of the authentication mechanisms available in Apache, such as basic authentication... --- whats that mean
[07:23] <mendred> LeejunFan: seems to me everyone has complicated problems today on this channel :)
[07:23] <ports-> mendred:  lol mines not too complicated
[07:23] <ports-> i wont be working on it for atleast 2 weeks
[07:24] <ports-> its just going to involve a lot of book reading... because i dont want to have ryan and kit code something that already exists
[07:24] <ports-> eack
[07:24] <ports-> apparnetly thats the Close Tab button
[07:25] <mendred> ports- http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/htaccess.html
[07:25] <mendred> ports- am assuming ur using apache 1
[07:25] <mendred> ports- wots the close tab button ?  :)
[07:26] <ports-> in Konversation.. to the right of the text edit box..
[07:26] <mendred> oh ok
[07:27] <ports-> ok HTAccess which Apache has.. is something different
[07:27] <ports-> that restricts access to folders on the site itself..
[07:28] <mendred> ummmm ports- whose htaccess were u referring to ?
[07:28] <mendred> i assumed u were referring to apache's
[07:28] <ports-> i was just reading stuff on those links you posted
[07:28] <ports-> from that original link where it talked about User Authentication in Apache... i thought it was referring to a system like i wanted...
[07:29] <mendred> oh
[07:29] <ports-> mendred:  its going to be a long summer :)
[07:29] <mendred> ports- should be fun neways :)
[07:30] <ports-> it probably will be
[07:30] <ports-> nice part is... i just need to make sure the demo site works.. i dont have to worry about security etc on Apache
[07:30] <mendred> ports- hmmm
[07:31] <mendred> ports - put up a blog on all this when u do..it should make for interesting reading
[07:31] <ports-> mendred:  lol ok
[07:31] <ports-> what i need is a revenue stream for this.. about $50/month
[07:33] <ports-> we've got a very gracious domain host.. only $4/month... but promoting this thing on campus is going to cost a lot of money
[07:33] <mendred> students fund raising?
[07:33] <ports->  yeah
[07:33] <ports-> im not a fan of fundraising :)
[07:33] <mendred> yeah i can relate :)
[07:33] <ports-> in many cases... the raising part costs more than the donations received
[07:34] <ports-> which doesnt mean that i wont be grilling in the quad during lunchtime..
[07:34] <Zaire> im back lol
[07:34] <ports-> just means that if im earning $10/day profit off it... and spending 4 hours out there.. ill scrap it
[07:35] <mendred> ports- well...good luck..u probably could set up a project page onsite with a paypal thingy for donations or something :)
[07:36] <Zaire> well kubuntu still crashs lol ........one thing I could not figure out was how to get the kernel sources installed from commandline
[07:36] <ports-> mendred:  i am trying to work out a deal with the campus activities board.. they spend a lot of money on promoting events in the campus newspaper...  im thinking that they can funnel me some advertising money... (and it helps that ive been a programming chair in that organization for 2 years)
[07:37] <mendred> ports- bon chance
[07:38] <ports-> mendred: yep.. its exciting because the group of people helping with this are connected all over campus.. and its really easy to get people onboard
[07:39] <ports-> i started writing the constitution for the organization in the middle of februrary.on friday student govt approved the organization and its purpose.. took 2 months. mainly because i took 6 weeks to write the constitution
[07:40] <mendred> ports- are u considering eventually going for an MBA ?  :)
[07:40] <ports-> mendred:  no why
[07:41] <mendred> ports- u would be very good at it :)
[07:42] <ports-> mendred:  im an engineer
[07:45] <mendred> ports- so are 3/4 of the ppl who passed out of my class :)
[07:47] <mendred> ports- actually make it 98%
[07:52] <mendred> ports-well..catch u later..gotta go
[07:52] <mendred> ciao all
[08:25] <_dustin> hi i have a question, one day i right clicked a folder, intending to play all of its contents in xmms, and after that every time i tried to normally open a folder, it would open it in xmms. Is there something i can reset so that this wont happen anymore?
[08:26] <_dustin> i'm new to linux, if that helps any
[08:29] <_dustin> i have breezy badger right now
[08:30] <_dustin> hi i have a question, one day i right clicked a folder, intending to play all of its contents in xmms, and after that every time i tried to normally open a folder, it would open it in xmms. Is there something i can reset so that this wont happen anymore?
[08:59] <bpm> good morning
[09:09] <LeeJunFan> does this page fully load for anyone else http://images.google.com/images?q=image&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=20&sa=N
[09:09] <LeeJunFan> It won't load in firefox or konqueror for me.
[09:10] <LeeJunFan> well, it finally did after about the 6th try.
[09:10] <LeeJunFan> to he11, I'm going to bed.
[09:23] <kkathman> howdy LeeJunFan :)
[09:49] <simira> what files manages the menus in kubuntu?
[09:49] <simira> the structure in the menu, what apps to be listed and how etc.
[09:50] <Emess> jsut kde settings
[09:50] <Emess> right click the k symbol and go menu settings...
[09:50] <Emess> *menu editor
[09:51] <simira> Emess: I don't use kde, we need a file to be distributed on the workstations on my workplace
[09:53] <Emess> oh, then i have absolutely no idea
[09:54] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi all..
[09:55] <merc248> wee, i love kubuntu.
[09:55] <merc248> that is all
[09:56] <paines> hrhr
[09:58] <simira> can anyone else help me?
[09:59] <paines> simira: I don't understand your question.
[09:59] <simira> paines: I need a file to edit and redistribute through network, to manage the kubuntu menus
[10:00] <simira> paines: the meny settings must be set in some file...
[10:01] <Emess> like a .conf file? tried google?
[10:05] <paines> simira: first of all. try to find out where kde is saving its menu. so best is, ask in  #kde
[10:05] <merc248> i can't wait for KDE4
[10:05] <merc248> i just found out about it
[10:06] <merc248> while trying to look for a kopete upgrade thing
[10:06] <merc248> OMG I WILL BE ABLE TO RUN KDE4 ON WINDOWS I CAN'T WAIT TO SWITCH BACK
[10:06] <Emess> traitor
[10:06] <merc248> pssh
[10:06] <merc248> :\
[10:08] <Emess> oh sweet i can run a console in konversation, good irssi died then :)
[10:08] <Emess> no more screen for meeee *dances*
[10:33] <Emess> System Information for    [ ubuntu ]
[10:33] <Emess> OS/Kernel                 Linux 2.6.12-9-386
[10:33] <Emess> CPU Info                  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz 2993.861 Mhz   5931.00 Bogomips
[10:33] <Emess> HD Info                   0GB total storage capacity
[10:33] <Emess> Memory                    193.754/504.387MB
[10:33] <Emess> Processes                 104
[10:33] <Emess> Uptime                    1:11
[10:34] <Chousuke> ok?
[10:37] <Emess> look at the HD Info
[10:37] <Emess> OGB...i have a 400GB SATA in this one :S
[10:39] <Chousuke> Well, you need a better script :p
[10:41] <Emess> nah, im running of a live cd to test this system sound card which isnt working in windaz
[10:41] <Emess> it even thought my baby had )gb when shes got close to 8TB :D
[10:41] <mart> !mp3
[10:41] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[10:41] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:20] <firepol> hi there, can someone help me to get the latest version of amarok working under breezy? if i add the breezy repos in my sources.list it gives me an error as you can see here: http://pastebin.com/678465
[11:26] <paines> firepol: latest amarok isn't for breezy
[11:26] <firepol> paines, so what happens if I upgrade to dapper? do you think im safe?
[11:27] <paines> firepol: depend on what you are using or doing with your installation. for me,  it works great.
[11:28] <firepol> is somebody here using dapper? I would like to upgrade but I'm afraid to break my distro. Actually I'm using kde 3.5.2 (added the kubuntu.org repos to my sources.list)....
[11:28] <firepol> it's my workstation at work. I need firefox, thunderbird, konsole, kate and quanta working. the rest can have some bugs (i cna live with that)
[11:31] <paines> and you just want to upgrade due to amaork ?
[11:32] <firepol> paines? not only, so whan dapper is out in june ill already have all the upgraded packages and wont lose time to download all the packages ;)
[11:33] <firepol> paines: also why not, to give some feedback to the kubuntu teram if i discover some bugs?
[11:33] <firepol> teram* team
[11:33] <paines> i see.
[11:35] <firepol> anywa yi wont do that, it seems too dangerous from the feedback i get around ;)
[11:35] <paines> well, for me I am using it everyday, in office and at home. no issues so far for me. I using it on desktops pc's. one i386, and at home amd64.
[11:49] <firepol> why are ubuntu and kubuntu "split" like if it was 2 different operating system? isn't kde just a package like fluxbox is?
[11:51] <Tm_T> firepol: sort of, but Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE and good set of KDE apps
[11:52] <Tm_T> firepol: problem is, somehow many users seems to think they are "different" but they're not
[11:53] <firepol> i know thast there is a sort of religion war between gnome and kde users... so that's reflected also in ubuntu and kubuntu?
[11:53] <Tm_T> no
[11:53] <Tm_T> but more like, if you like to have KDE, you prolly like to have KDE apps too
[11:54] <Tm_T> so, Kubuntu team tries to offer good KDE experience in Ubuntu
[11:54] <Tm_T> but Kubuntu team also helps a lot in "gnomeware" issues ;)
[11:54] <Tm_T> so I can't see any war going on
[11:55] <firepol> Tm_T I dont need to have double apps that do the same thing. I uninstalled all my gnome packages as I prefear kde
[11:55] <Tm_T> ugh
[11:55] <Tm_T> firepol: isn't it good? so you have a choice?
[11:55] <firepol> Anyway when it comes to standard packages, like firefox, where should i ask support? in ubuntu or kubuntu forums? You see what I mean?
[11:56] <firepol> yeah but isn't it good to have only a main centralized platform (forum, irc channel etc) ?
[11:56] <Tm_T> firepol: both are fine, but mostly Kubuntu support is meant to kubuntu/KDE specific issues
[11:56] <firepol> i see
[11:56] <Tm_T> and no, too centralized and you can't find the Kubuntu part from there =)
[11:58] <Tm_T> firepol: think it this way, Kubuntu and Ubuntu are cars manufactured in the same factory, but just different colour and seats and that
[11:58] <firepol> Tm_T, so if I have a car that has a different color I should call a different office in case of problems? ;)
[11:58] <Tm_T> firepol: so, if you put repair service to same place, they need to keep two or four different kind of seats in the same place instead of half of it
[11:58] <firepol> Tm_T dont worry i got it ;)
[11:59] <Tm_T> yeah :)
[11:59] <Tm_T> I'm not a good explainer
[11:59] <firepol> i guess there is a centralization for obvious purposes: a kde user has kde specific problems...
[12:00] <mendred> Tm_T: ur kopete package didn't have voice enabled :(
[12:00] <abattoir>  hello Tm_T :)
[12:02] <firepol> paines: has dapper firefox <IP_ADDRESS> in its packages?
[12:06] <morrow> hmmm.. this baghira keeps crashing my firefox :/
[12:15] <jorik> does whatever-fs-DVDs-use support soft links ?
[12:16] <Tm_T> mendred: ofcourse don't have, because there's no correct ortp in ubuntu
[12:25] <ralf_> Updated today and everything is smooth in kubuntu 6.06 ppc. But kino still has probs with avc (status error) and dvgrab can't find a camcorder?
[12:50] <menno> does anybody use Kubuntu with low latency for audio-work?
[12:51] <eulchen> i have tried one time but crash
[12:51] <menno> not good...
[12:52] <menno> there is still some work to be done i guess
[12:53] <menno> the day will come that an end-user like me can make the switch
[12:53] <eulchen> im new to linux took me 2 days till i could play my mp3s ;)
[12:54] <menno> that 's within limits
[12:54] <eulchen> he he well i know now tht the codecs bit hidden for legal reasons
[12:55] <eulchen> but i still wonder why all the windoofs progis install them but not linux
[12:56] <menno> yeah i never wondered but yeah
[12:56] <menno> i guess they use Lame?
[12:56] <eulchen> yap
[12:56] <menno> and not Frauenhoffer
[12:57] <eulchen> some  audiacity for windoes yes needs lame    but i dont know whta winamp and the others use
[12:58] <eulchen> hard to imagin billi gates paid frauenhofer ? hm hm
[12:59] <menno> why not?
[12:59] <eulchen> he never paid anyone dont you know him ? giggles
[12:59] <eulchen> even his first msdos was stolen from his friend
[12:59] <menno> not personally, just seen pictures of his house
[01:00] <menno> taken with wide-angle
[01:36] <Emess> mm i hope my ibm can handle dapper (64mb ram ftl)
[01:38] <Emess> how do i turn on teh SSH daemon?
[01:39] <Danamania> apt-get install ssh (it'll install both client and server, I think client is the only one installed by default)
[01:39] <Danamania> apt-get install openssh-client will probably do the same
[01:39] <Danamania> gah. scratch that
[01:40] <nagyv> hello! I don't know why but my root partition seems to get full. df
[01:40] <Danamania> apt-get install openssh-server
[01:40] <Danamania> that's the one sorry :)
[01:40] <Danamania> nagyv: you may still have a load of downloaded packages laying around. does "sudo apt-get clean" clear up a load of space?
[01:41] <nagyv> it has 5Gb, /usr is 2.2, /tmp is nearly empty, /var is 1.8. I see no reason why it would get full!
[01:42] <nagyv> Danamania: thx, this was the problem. Is there any way to set up this cleaning automaticaly?
[01:42] <Emess> Danamania: thanks, shouoldnt the server be installed default though? i guess not :(
[01:44] <Danamania> nagyv: I don't know, sorry - apt-get's manpage just mentions that you might want to run it from time to time.
[01:44] <nagyv> Danamania: thx, I will try to remember.
[01:45] <Danamania> Emess: I think the approach is not to run services unless they're specifically required. I'm still pretty new to ubuntu :)
[01:45] <Emess> iv never used ubuntu before, or any other debian based system
[01:46] <Danamania> ahh. I come from straight debian myself.
[01:47] <Emess> yeah, im looking to dual boot my slack10 server with kubuntu, or if possible Xubuntu
[01:50] <tRSS> how can I start another xsession from tty1. currently, i am doing 'startx -- :1' and it loads another x session but then nothing happens. I can't even kill this process
[01:51] <Emess> find the pid and kill it...
[01:52] <tRSS> Emess: well, killing the process is not the issue. issue is starting another xsession from tty1 or tty2 or tty3
[01:53] <inc|freaky> hi all, im using knetworkmanager. but when connecting to my router, wireless, it gives me the wrong IP-address over dhcp ... i have set up a static IP for the MAC adress of my laptop on the router. when connecting over a cable it works. just not over wireless. what could this be caused by or how can i fix this?
[01:55] <paines> tRSS: look in to /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and change allowes_users= to anybody
[01:55] <paines> allowed_users i mean
[01:57] <tRSS> paines: thanks, let me try it
[01:59] <tRSS> paines: on my other machines, I am able to do it from tty1 by just doing 'startx -- :1' but on this machine I only ubuntu, wheres as on this machine also I have Kubuntu, which primarily use
[01:59] <Emess> ok this is wierd, im isntalling ubuntu and when i get to the partitioning part it jsut repepatedly says 'Killed' and jsut keeps on repeating...
[02:02] <tRSS> still getting a 'no protocol specified' error
[02:11] <Emess> from the forums it seems to be a problem on computers with 64mb rasm...which is what this box has :(
[02:40] <florian> Hello !
[02:40] <florian> Is this the good chan for dapper beta or #ubuntu+1 ?
[02:42] <cenobyte> how do u play .nsv files with xine or vlc?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> florian: ubuntu+1
[02:45] <florian> Hobbsee: thx, I'm in, but no-one answer :(
[02:45] <florian> Do you know if new installer support LVM ?
[02:45] <knoppix> Hi! i'm having trouble installing breezy onto a pair of sata drives on an nforce4-based motherboard
[02:45] <Hobbsee> i've got no idea, but i suspect so.
[02:46] <florian> seems it doesn't :s
[02:46] <knoppix> florian, is this dapper? there was an LVM option in the installer, i saw it today while i was trying to install
[02:47] <Hobbsee> ndazza: yes it is
[02:47] <florian> ndazza: Yes, the dapper-beta
[02:47] <ndazza> the installer/partitioning section seemed identical, including LVM
[02:47] <ndazza> only difference was the new one didn't pick up my drives :(
[02:47] <florian> On graphical installer ?
[02:48] <noteventime> !midi
[02:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:48] <ndazza> no
[02:49] <florian> ndazza: how can you setup a "classic" install ?
[02:49] <florian> I didn't find the way to...
[02:49] <florian> Only live-cd
[02:49] <ndazza> florian,  i was using dapper flight 6. it went straight to non-gui boot
[02:49] <florian> Ho, yeah, ok for flight 6, but dapper-beta seems to be only graphical...
[02:50] <cenobyte> can someone help me out
[02:50] <ndazza> oh okay
[02:51] <ndazza> florian, cool, maybe that will work with my hardware hehe
[02:52] <MrMist> Hi all
[02:52] <MrMist> anyone know why there isn't any official MySQL 5.0 release for Debian/Ubuntu/Kubuntu ?
[02:53] <Emess> because you compile software from source like a normal person?
[02:53] <MrMist> of course I'm able to. But it would be simpler not having to
[02:53] <MrMist> I'm compiling as we speak.
[02:54] <Emess> then you'll need a precompiled binary, and they dont make on for debian so try an rpm or compile like you already are :)
[02:55] <MrMist> The companies themselves more often than not omit compiling for Ubuntu
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> What is there in mysql 5 that is not in 4 that you need ?
[02:55] <MrMist> But the programs are released in the apt-get-system anyway... don't know who's in charge of it though
[02:55] <MrMist> hmm... much
[02:56] <MrMist> increased security
[02:56] <MrMist> the ability to make views
[02:56] <MrMist> stored procedures
[02:56] <MrMist> these are just the improvements I know of... I'm sure there's even more
[02:59] <MrMist> Anyone know who's in charge of those systems ? Someone should push the right buttons to get MySQL updated in the system
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> MrMist: Mysql 5 is in dapper
[03:00] <MrMist> I know. But dapper is still in Beta
[03:01] <MrMist> I require a stable system
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> MrMist: There is no way it would be updated in breezy
[03:01] <MrMist> why not ?
[03:01] <apokryphos> MrMist: because dapper's about to be released, it would be a huge effort to backport to breezy, etc etc
[03:01] <apokryphos> it'll never happen, for sure
[03:03] <bigescalade> hy! can u help me in this case : I installed kubuntu linux and i want to play my mp3 files with amaroK! but when i click on a file amaroK starts but doesn`t plays! What`s the problem?
[03:03] <MrMist> hmm... but the package-system is on different servers
[03:03] <apokryphos> what?
[03:03] <MrMist> isn't that just a matter of compiling for each platform ?
[03:03] <apokryphos> no, it's a lot more than that
[03:03] <sredna> In that respect gentoo is better, since if you update you allways gets fully up to date with the entire system. If that is not possible with ubuntu, one needs to reinstall for each release.
[03:04] <apokryphos> sredna: true, but often if new version of packages are *just* released they're backported, but also (i) there is quite a short/quick release cycle, and (ii) for those who can, it's very easy to still compile
[03:05] <apokryphos> also, new releases don't require a reinstall per se, just an update
[03:05] <ndazza> MrMist, you could try downloading the .rpm and using alien to convert it to a deb
[03:05] <MrMist> I'm compiling it now
[03:05] <ndazza> does the dapper-beta live cd install as well?
[03:05] <sredna> apokryphos: Ok, as long as there is somthing that makes reinstall unnessecary, since that means overwriting configuration data ;)
[03:05] <MrMist> I'm a programmer, so I know how
[03:05] <apokryphos> ndazza: yes
[03:06] <apokryphos> good
[03:06] <apokryphos> ndazza: I don't think there's an distro now that has no "update" option when a new release comes out, yeah.
[03:06] <apokryphos> s/an/any/
[03:06] <MrMist> I'm just getting a bit sad 'cause it's so much fiddling around in Linux compared to Win.
[03:06] <ndazza> ok, is the gui installer or the text installer most likely to work on troublesome hardware? specifically SATA drives with nforce chipset
[03:07] <apokryphos> * sredna, not ndazza :)
[03:07] <MrMist> even though I'm one of the guys that knows how
[03:07] <apokryphos> ndazza: I presume so. The more testing it gets, the better it will be :)
[03:07] <apokryphos> ndazza: remember though that it is still technically beta software
[03:08] <ndazza> speaking of which, is there an install report that i can fill out? the flight 6 installer is worse at detecting my hardware than the breezy one
[03:09] <apokryphos> ndazza: best is to compile a bug report, however I'd only recommend filing one if you're using the latest beta
[03:09] <apokryphos> otherwise you'll probably get "test with latest beta; does it work?"
[03:09] <ndazza> downloading now...
[03:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:21] <nico8481> hi
[03:22] <xwolf-> If i use DHCP, i can connect to the net and everything. And when I put the IP address myself, i can't... i mean, it reaches the router adsl modem but i can't access google, for example. looks like a dns problem, but i already have a list of them in kcontrol
[03:23] <xwolf-> any ideas?
[03:23] <ndazza> xwolf-, can you google.com from the command line? can you ping google's ip address? (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:24] <ndazza> oops, can you *ping* www.google.com
[03:26] <nico8481> how can I add, for example, "play with amaroK" to the list of actions that are proposed when I right-click on a folder containing music files ?
[03:27] <noteventime> 'ello
[03:27] <noteventime> I've managed do something bad :P
[03:28] <noteventime> I'm unable to start kde
[03:28] <ndazza> nico8481, the actions list only has options for any files i think, it doesn't recognise music files/directories as different
[03:28] <OdyX> noteventime: that's not bad, it's fun !
[03:28] <noteventime> I get into KDM login screen
[03:28] <mayur> did anybody knows about virtual cd software for kubuntu?
[03:28] <noteventime> :) but when i login the screen turns black for a second
[03:29] <OdyX> noteventime: try:
[03:29] <nico8481> ndazza: how come it proposes me "open with Kaffeine" in the list of actions for such a directory then?
[03:29] <OdyX> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:29] <OdyX> then
[03:29] <noteventime> mayur, if you want to mount ISO images, then its built in in the system
[03:29] <OdyX> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:29] <ndazza> nico8481, no idea... i guess i'm wrong :)
[03:29] <mayur> where?
[03:29] <noteventime> OdyX, I tried reconfigure KDM but I don't think KDM is the problem
[03:29] <noteventime> I think the xserver is
[03:29] <nico8481> :)
[03:29] <OdyX> noteventime: then try to reconfigure it.
[03:30] <noteventime> Becuase I tried to manually start the xserver
[03:30] <ndazza> noteventime, do other environments start? gnome/icewm/etc?
[03:30] <noteventime> Nope
[03:30] <noteventime> I just tried fail safe
[03:30] <noteventime> But as I'm unable to start the xserver manually
[03:30] <mayur> where is the package?
[03:31] <mayur> for mounting iso images
[03:31] <noteventime> It won't even give me any erros
[03:31] <noteventime> errors*
[03:31] <ndazza> mayur, it isn't a package, it's in the kernel. the command you need is mount
[03:31] <mayur> i dont know command very well
[03:31] <mayur> plz caaan u give me syntax
[03:31] <mayur> plz
[03:32] <ndazza> mayur, unfortunately i don't know if/how it's done with the gui, but if you open a console and type the command mount -t iso9660 /path/to/cdfile /mnt -o loop
[03:32] <mayur> plz
[03:32] <OdyX> noteventime: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:32] <ndazza> that will place your cd image into the directory /mnt
[03:32] <mayur> thnx but i want a gui tool
[03:32] <ndazza> from there you can browse it with gui
[03:32] <noteventime> OdyX, yes
[03:33] <OdyX> Well... dunno noteventime
[03:33] <mayur> in windows i use deamon tools
[03:33] <ndazza> noteventime, have a look in /var/log/xorg.log.1 or whatever the filename is
[03:34] <ndazza> mayur, have a look at http://packages.ubuntu.org/ there's a search engine there
[03:34] <mayur> thnx
[03:34] <ndazza> oops, sorry that link is bad... i'll find the right one
[03:35] <noteventime> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[03:35] <noteventime> But it goes on beyond that
[03:35] <ndazza> ahh http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:36] <noteventime> Thats the only error message i got :(
[03:36] <ndazza> noteventime, check that the file exists, permissions on the file. search for lines beginning with (EE)
[03:36] <ndazza> (that last is in the log file again)
[03:37] <noteventime> ndazza, the file doesn't exist but there are no (EE) lines at all in the log
[03:38] <noteventime> Thats the wierd thing
[03:38] <noteventime> After trying to start X, when i get back to the console, there are no error messages
[03:38] <ndazza> hmm... i have a big SecurityPolicy file at that location - but i'm using XFree86
[03:39] <ndazza> perhaps look in /var/log/kdm.log
[03:39] <noteventime> I did
[03:40] <ndazza> are you using binary video drivers?
[03:40] <noteventime> X: client 4 rejected from local host
[03:40] <noteventime> yes, i810 but I've tried uing vesa
[03:40] <noteventime> same problem
[03:40] <ndazza> hmm...
[03:41] <ndazza> i'm thinking there might be something funny with the X authentication stuff
[03:41] <ndazza> xauth and friends
[03:42] <noteventime> ok, dunno about tha : / any ideas on how to check?
[03:42] <ndazza> i can't remember what the name of the tool is to authorise remote connections and the like...
[03:42] <ndazza> ahh
[03:43] <ndazza> if your pc is well-firewalled on a private trusted network..... you could try xhost +
[03:43] <noteventime> +?
[03:44] <ndazza> yea 'xhost +'
[03:44] <ndazza> + means allow all
[03:44] <noteventime> ohh, ok
[03:45] <ndazza> if it doesn't work, don't forget to use 'xhost -' afterwards, i'm pretty sure it's a security hole
[03:45] <noteventime> unable to open display "" and with DISPLAY=:0 i get unable to open display ":0"
[03:45] <noteventime> connection refused by server
[03:46] <ndazza> okay, i'm running out of ideas now...
[03:47] <noteventime> Hmm, the computer hung so I had to hard reboot during prelinking, DO you think that could be a problem? I've finished a prelink now and I'll try to restart
[03:47] <noaXess_kubuntu> are her some sybase database specialists? i know, not the right channel, but i need help.. or some other places where i can get help.. yes, i have searched in google.. some hours.. but found nothing what help..
[03:47] <ndazza> noteventime, haha yes that could be a very big problem
[03:48] <ndazza> a botched prelink could cause all kinds of problems with your libraries
[03:48] <noteventime> Just that I thought I'd get segmention faults or similar and not this but-looking thning :)
[03:48] <ndazza> noaXess_kubuntu, there's a tonne of db gurus on #mysql
[03:48] <noteventime> ok, trying to login now
[03:48] <nico8481> if i want Konversation to use firefox instead of konqueror when i click on a link, do i have to set it up somewhere in Konversation or is it defined at KDE level ?
[03:49] <noaXess_kubuntu> noteventime: ok.. just try there.. thanks
[03:49] <noteventime> still the same problem
[03:49] <noteventime> Didn't help
[03:50] <ndazza> ok, have you tried dpkg --configure xserver?
[03:51] <ndazza> hmm taht might not be the correct package name
[03:51] <noteventime> only xserver-xorg but that should be the same, or not?
[03:51] <ndazza> yeah that's probably the right one (not on a kubuntu machine here)
[03:52] <ndazza> at this point i'm pretty much stumped... one thing you might like to try is logging in from another linux box using ssh with X forwarding
[03:52] <ndazza> see if you can get x apps to send their display over the link
[03:53] <noteventime> How do I do that
[03:53] <ndazza> from command line: ssh -X user@host
[03:53] <noteventime> Never done that :)
[03:53] <ndazza> once on the other side, make sure it was set up correctly: echo $DISPLAY
[03:54] <noteventime> Ok, thanks :)
[03:54] <ndazza> then run something simple like xcalc
[03:54] <ndazza> the echo $DISPLAY should return localhost:10.0
[03:54] <ndazza> (i think)
[03:55] <noteventime> ok
[03:55] <noteventime> Connection refused
[03:55] <noteventime> both ways
[03:57] <noteventime> :( guess I'll have to format and go for the new beta :D
[03:58] <noteventime> I'll just install an FTP server and make an backup of my home folder
[04:06] <CTV> hi all
[04:06] <ndazza> noteventime, ahh you will probably need to actually start the server first :) i forgot about that little detail
[04:07] <ndazza> use this: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:07] <noteventime> but startX wont work :S
[04:07] <noteventime> ahh, ok... sorry
[04:07] <noteventime> what package do I need to install?
[04:08] <CTV> i made a skript what replaces the interfaces file on /etc/networks/ but the changes wouln't replaced
[04:08] <CTV> only after reboot
[04:08] <CTV> how can i restart the network services ?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> CTV: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:09] <CTV> thx
[04:09] <ndazza> noteventime, ssh-server i think...
[04:09] <noteventime> ok
[04:09] <ndazza> i'd have a look but konsole is going really strange right now...
[04:12] <Jaymac> any network gurus here?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> Jaymac: wired or wireless?
[04:14] <Jaymac> wired
[04:14] <Jaymac> basically...
[04:15] <Jaymac> Ubuntu pc connected to the net... Crossover cable going into windows xp laptop
[04:15] <Jaymac> I'm chatting away on IRC on the laptop
[04:15] <Jaymac> but cant do anything else.. i.e log into AIM, or pull up any webpages
[04:15] <noteventime> :/
[04:18] <Jaymac> any ideas?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> not a clue, apart from the fact that it's obvoiusly not working properly
[04:19] <Jaymac> heh
[04:20] <MacAnthony> so you are trying to setup your xp lappy as a router?
[04:25] <Jaymac> MacAnthony.. no
[04:25] <Jaymac> I'm trying to share an internet connection between my kubuntu pc and my xp laptop
[04:25] <Jaymac> with the pc being the router
[04:26] <HymnToLife> Jaymac> which PC ?
[04:26] <Jaymac> kubuntu
[04:26] <Jaymac> the xp comp is a laptop
[04:26] <MacAnthony> but you said you are chatting on the xp box right
[04:26] <HymnToLife> then you install dhcp3-server and then firestarter
[04:26] <MacAnthony> ?
[04:26] <MacAnthony> so isn't it working then?
[04:26] <Jaymac> i can chat on irc on the xp laptop
[04:26] <HymnToLife> and you activate the connection sharing with firestarter
[04:26] <Jaymac> but do nothing else
[04:27] <HymnToLife> hmm
[04:27] <HymnToLife> so the connection works
[04:27] <Jaymac> i'm using hte linux pc at the moment
[04:27] <HymnToLife> do ou have a firewall ?
[04:27] <Jaymac> nope
	I'm chatting away on IRC on the laptop
[04:27] <Jaymac> in another channel
[04:27] <Jaymac> they're both right in front of me
[04:27] <Jaymac> linux pc works fine
[04:28] <MacAnthony> How are you chatting on the laptop if the network connection isn't working?
[04:28] <Jaymac> oh ffs
[04:28] <Jaymac> that is my question
[04:28] <Jaymac> irc works on the laptop, nothing else
[04:28] <HymnToLife> well, seems the connection _is_ working then
[04:28] <MacAnthony> dns?
[04:29] <HymnToLife> dns yeah most likely
[04:29] <MacAnthony> can you go to a site by ip?
[04:29] <Jaymac> cant ping anything
[04:29] <MacAnthony> you can on the kubuntu box
[04:29] <Jaymac> yes
[04:30] <MacAnthony> so use the IP address you get from the ping on the kubuntu box
[04:30] <Jaymac> ok, that works fine
[04:30] <Jaymac> i can ping google from xp box
[04:31] <Jaymac> well, i can ping google's ip
[04:31] <MacAnthony> k, then make sure the dns numbers are setup on the xp box
[04:31] <Jaymac> what do you mean?
[04:32] <MacAnthony> check the properties of you internet connection and make sure they are using your ISPs DNS numbers
[04:33] <MacAnthony> but I can look
[04:33] <Jaymac> ok
[04:36] <slow-motion> bye
[04:41] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Try installing dnsmasq its alot easier to setup than bind / dhcp-server
[04:41] <Jaymac> cheers will try it
[04:42] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Its a dns server and dhcp server in one for small networks
[04:42] <Jaymac> dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket: Address already in use
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: you need to remove dhcp-server first
[04:43] <Jaymac> yeah i removed it
[04:44] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: do ps auxww | grep -i dhcp
[04:44] <Jaymac> dhcp      8428  0.0  0.1   2320  1132 ?        Ss   14:02   0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
[04:44] <Jaymac> john     16127  0.0  0.0   2932   572 pts/4    R+   15:44   0:00 grep -i dhcp
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: do you have a dns server running ?
[04:46] <Jaymac> no
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: remove firestarter as well
[04:47] <Jaymac> i just did that
[04:47] <Jaymac> trying again
[04:47] <ubuntu> ho
[04:49] <ubuntu> hmm
[04:52] <raven3x7> im having a problem with espresso
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Does the machine have two ethernet cards ? The dhcp server won't be able to listen if dhclient is running on the same interface
[04:55] <raven3x7> i tried to change the language to greek. i then clicked  on continue but it would not move on. i switched back to english but it would still not respond. i then decided to close the app and restart it but now it wont launch. is there a known problem with non english languages?
[04:56] <Jaymac> yes i hyave 2 cards
[04:56] <Jaymac> sorry
[04:58] <Panke> sorry for the stupid question, but: How to open rar-Archivs? Ark isn't able to do ist (unrar is not in the PATH or so) and unrar-free - the only other programm i found yet - too
[05:00] <raven3x7> ugh pastebin wont work
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: can you pastebin me the /etc/dnsmasq.conf and /etc/init.d/dnsmasq - Is udhcp still not starting ?
[05:03] <Jaymac> ok
[05:03] <raven3x7> i get this error when espresso is run in cmd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12839 can anyone help?
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: presumably your internet connection is on eth0 - and you need to run dhcp on eth1
[05:04] <raven3x7> Panke: unrar - free should do it, though rar - nonfree is probably  a better choice
[05:05] <raven3x7> rar-nonfree is probably not the exact name of the package
[05:05] <Jaymac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/678995
[05:06] <robotgeek> Panke: on dapper, it is called unrar
[05:06] <Panke> using 5.10
[05:07] <Panke> can i install unrar-nonfree by using Adept? Because i can't find it, but ich have chosen all repositories
[05:07] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, yes internet connection is eth0
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: you will just need to specify the interface that udhcp and dnsmasq listens on but I can't tell you where to set it until I see the files specified above
[05:11] <robotgeek> Panke: you will need to enable multiverse
[05:11] <raven3x7> oh well. ill try a restart of the live cd. and the ill just go for english
[05:11] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Panke about repos
[05:11] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, i sent you the pastebin file
[05:12] <Panke> robotgeek: I already had
[05:12] <Jaymac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/679010
[05:12] <Jaymac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/678995
[05:13] <robotgeek> Panke: did you update after adding repos?
[05:13] <robotgeek> !info unrar-nonfree
[05:13] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[05:14] <kkathman> mornin robotgeek :)
[05:14] <robotgeek> kkathman: morninng
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: I missed it because it didn't have my name in the line - look for the line #interface and change to - interface=eth1 (removing the #)
[05:15] <Jaymac> in  the /etc/dnsmasq.conf file?
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: yes
[05:16] <Panke> Yes
[05:17] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, still fails to bind
[05:18] <Panke> I'm using http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for multiverse. Is this right?
[05:18] <robotgeek> Panke: can you put the entire line somewhere?
[05:19] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, i just removed clam-av and almost instantaneously i got cut off from irc on the xp machine
[05:19] <Jaymac> that has to just be a coincidence though, right?
[05:20] <Panke> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:20] <raven3x7> yes there seems to be a bug with espresso wnen choosing greek as the default install language
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: run dnsmasq -K -F <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>,12h -I eth1
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Probably is coincidence
[05:21] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket: Address already in use
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Can I have the full output of ps auxww then pastebinned - another dns or dhcp must be running (preferably without php syntax highlighting)
[05:25] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/679035
[05:25] <raven3x7> ok keyboard layouts are also problematic.
[05:26] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Do sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start
[05:26] <raven3x7> great it crashed again. i hope they can iron it out till the official launch
[05:27] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, done
[05:28] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Did it complain about unable to bind ?
[05:28] <Jaymac> no
[05:28] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start
[05:28] <Jaymac> Starting DNS forwarder and DHCP server: dnsmasq.
[05:28] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: From the windows xp machine do ipconfig /renew (from a command prompt)
[05:29] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, Windows IP Configuration
[05:29] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn,  The operation failed as no adaptor is in the state permissible for this operation
[05:30] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: you need to change the connection to automatic in the network configuration
[05:30] <Jaymac> eth1 in linux box?
[05:30] <Jaymac> done
[05:30] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: on xp
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: The linux machine should have a static ip address for eth1
[05:32] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, i'm in the properties tab of my nic.. and cant find anything
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: In windows ?
[05:33] <Jaymac> yeah
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: it should be in tcp properties
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: tcp/ip sorry
[05:33] <Jaymac> got it
[05:33] <Jaymac> obtain ip address automatically?
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: yes
[05:34] <Jaymac> what about the DNS server addresses? leave as they are?
[05:34] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: put that to automatic as well
[05:34] <Jaymac> currently set to Use the following DNS server addresses: Preferred DNS server <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:34] <Jaymac> ok will do
[05:35] <Jaymac> done
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: do ipconfig from the windows xp box
[05:35] <Jaymac> trying to renew ip address on windows
[05:36] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn, nothing happening
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: what ipaddress is assigned to eth1 ?
[05:36] <Jaymac> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:37] <Jaymac> ok, windows box says it was unable to contact my dhcp server, request timed out
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: do sudo killall dnsmasq
[05:38] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: done
[05:38] <Jaymac> renew ip again on windows/
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: then run dnsmasq -K -F <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>,12h -I eth1
[05:39] <Jaymac> ok
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: sorry sudo should be infront of that
[05:39] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: done
[05:39] <Jaymac> yeah, i got a permission denied error first time :)
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Then try again from the windows xp machine
[05:40] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: no dice
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Does the xp machine have windows firewall on it ? If it does disable it (at least temporarily)
[05:41] <Jaymac> no, i disabled it
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:46] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: done
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: then run nslookup from the linux box
[05:47] <Jaymac> nslookup what?
[05:47] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: with no arguments
[05:47] <Jaymac> i just get a > prompt
[05:47] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: type server <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:48] <Jaymac> Default server: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:48] <Jaymac> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>#53
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> type in www.google.co.uk
[05:49] <Jaymac> www.google.co.uk        canonical name = www.google.com.
[05:49] <Jaymac> www.google.com  canonical name = www.l.google.com.
[05:49] <Jaymac> Name:   www.l.google.com
[05:49] <Jaymac> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:49] <Jaymac> Name:   www.l.google.com
[05:49] <Jaymac> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Anything you may have just said I have missed (computer hard locked)
[05:52] <Jaymac> i didnt say anything after pasting google results.. did you see them?
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: But you can get the ip of google from their yes ?
[05:54] <Jaymac> yes
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Try in windows tcp/ip settings setting it back to a static <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS> dns server <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:56] <Jaymac> ok
[05:57] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: done
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: can you get online from windows ?
[05:57] <Jaymac> nope
[05:57] <Jaymac> the card says connected now
[05:58] <Jaymac> but ipconfig says no adaptor in the state permissible for this operation
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:59] <Jaymac> yes
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:59] <Jaymac> yes
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: can you use nslookup ?
[06:00] <v3ctor> nslookup v3ctor.org
[06:01] <Jaymac> no
[06:01] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: Can't find server name for address <IP_ADDRESS>: Timed out
[06:01] <Jaymac> Default servers are not available
[06:01] <Jaymac> Default server: unknown
[06:02] <raven3x7> guys i think someone should add a warning in  the topic that Espresso is still quite buggy
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: run sudo iptables -F
[06:03] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: don
[06:03] <Jaymac> e
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: then try again from windows that firestarter thing may have left loads of stuff you don't need in iptables
[06:04] <Jaymac> ok
[06:05] <Jaymac> ipconfig /renew?
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: just ipconfig
[06:05] <Cedric77> hey i was woundering if kubuntu dapper the lastest builds comes with kde3.5.2
[06:05] <Cedric77> not the live cd but the full install
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> Cedric: yes
[06:05] <Jaymac> ok, that was successful-ish
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: what do you mean ? can you do an nslookup ?
[06:05] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: i got some output.. IP Address <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:06] <Jaymac> still cant nslookup, no
[06:06] <Cedric77> ho then ill download it, wanted to try something different im on suse right now and eeeeeeew i mean it dont even come close to kubuntu
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: run sudo iptables -t nat -A prerouting_rule -i eth1 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
[06:08] <Jaymac> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: sudo /etc/init.d/squid stop
[06:14] <Jaymac> done
[06:14] <mhterres> hi Riddell
[06:14] <Riddell> hi mhterres
[06:15] <jpatrick> Jaymac: you setting up dansguardian or somewhat?
[06:15] <mhterres> I saw the note that you put in dot.kde.org
[06:15] <mhterres> Did you saw the video ?
[06:15] <mhterres> of fisl7.0
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: sudo aptitude install ipmasq
[06:17] <Jaymac> done
[06:17] <mhterres> Riddel: maybe you can be in fisl8.0 next year to talk about Kubuntu
[06:18] <mhterres> Riddel: is it possible ?
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq
[06:19] <Riddell> mhterres: is the video online now?  I did see it live
[06:19] <Riddell> mhterres: I doubt I can make it to brazil for a conference
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> h3sp4wn: change it to after networking services have been started
[06:19] <mhterres> Riddel: I think the video will be released soon.
[06:20] <mhterres> Riddel: Why you can come to Brazil ?
[06:20] <mhterres> oops
[06:20] <mhterres> can't
[06:20] <Riddell> mhterres: too many conferences
[06:20] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: done
[06:20] <Riddell> mhterres: ask me again next year, maybe I will be able to, but in general I have enough conferences
[06:20] <xst> Why isn't DMA enabled by default? (since easyubuntu enables it I guess it is disabled in the default installation)
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: run /etc/init.d/ipmasq start
[06:21] <mhterres> Riddell: I understand. But do you have some conference schedule for april in next year?
[06:21] <mhterres> Riddell: You can do a pre-schedule if is possible :-)
[06:22] <mhterres> Riddell: I'm pre inviting you :-) But I have to talk with the other guys of Program Comittee
[06:23] <kosh> xst: the linux kernel automatically has enabled dma on hardware that it knows it will work well with for about 5 years now, however lots of hardware it won't enable it for on automatically since there can be problems
[06:23] <kosh> xst: ie LOTS of hardware sucks
[06:23] <mhterres> Riddell: are you interested ?
[06:24] <xst> kosh: ok
[06:24] <kosh> xst: so if it knows that it is completely safe it will do it, if there is a doubt it won't even try
[06:24] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: done
[06:24] <kosh> xst: there are lots of situations you can do it in but the system can't know for sure that it is okay
[06:24] <mhterres> Riddell: we'll try to bring Mark too
[06:24] <kosh> have fun I am heading to bed
[06:25] <mhterres> Riddell: He was to come this year in June, but we change the date of fisl and his schedule for April was full... :-(
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> jaymac: do you have a ubuntu live cd ? I think the problems are windows related
[06:27] <Jaymac> no h3sp4wn but i can download it
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> jaymac: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[06:27] <Riddell> mhterres: tell mark he can only come if he brings me too, that way I have to come :)
[06:28] <Jaymac> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[06:28] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: will take 10 mins to download livecd
[06:28] <mhterres> Riddell: We can talk with Mark
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> jaymac: Is that with sudo ?
[06:28] <Jaymac> yes
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: does eth1 have a default gateway set ? It shouldn't have
[06:29] <Jaymac> it didnt but you told me to set it to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: I told you to set it on the xp machine not the linux one
[06:30] <Jaymac> yes
[06:30] <Jaymac> it doesnt on linux
[06:30] <Jaymac> back in 5
[06:30] <xst> If I install the new kubuntu beta on my box - will I then be able to get all future kubuntu-upgrades just by a conventional "apt-get upgrade" or will the repository structure somehow change upon the final releas?
[06:31] <Riddell> xst: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will do it fine, no changes needed to apt sources
[06:32] <xst> Riddell: How would you judge its current stability? Should I wait or is it useable in its current state?
[06:33] <mindspin> if you depend on the machine, I would recommend to wait
[06:34] <jpatrick> xst: pretty sound
[06:34] <Riddell> xst: beta wasn't great, current dailys are probably better and live CD installer won't work until the next upload
[06:34] <Riddell> thank jpatrick :)
[06:34] <jpatrick> well, I haven't had _any_ problems
[06:35] <xst> ok - I'll wait with the install then
[06:35] <Riddell> printing was broken (now fixed), adept was broken due to debtags (now fixed), installer was broken (not quite fixed)
[06:36] <h3sp4wn> jaymac: sudo sysctl net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[06:37] <Jaymac> ok
[06:37] <jpatrick> Riddell: probably explains: "Need to get 183MB of archives"
[06:37] <v3ctor> sudo sysctl -w net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[06:37] <mhterres> Riddell: but your problem is time or money ?
[06:37] <Riddell> mhterres: time mostly
[06:38] <mhterres> so if you reserve a time for fisl, there is no problem :-)
[06:39] <mhterres> Riddell: do you agree ?
[06:39] <Riddell> my calendar doesn't go past July, I've no idea what I'm doing next year
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: try from windows now - If it works then edit /etc/sysctl.conf and remove the # from the ip_forward line
[06:40] <Jaymac> no luck
[06:41] <rosen> hello i have a question, in kubuntu how do i open a graphical view of my ntfs disks?
[06:41] <v3ctor> Jaymac: did you run with -w
[06:42] <vikke> !ntfs
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:42] <Jaymac> no luck still
[06:42] <mhterres> Ridddell: but if you have schedule, are you interested in come ?
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Wait until the live cd is downloaded and boot that on the laptop I don't think it is a problem with the ubuntu machine
[06:43] <Jaymac> ok
[06:45] <rosen> but kubuntu finds the disks but tells me that i vannot reach them, i know that in ubuntu theres a file viewer where you simply put you sudo pass and then you can acces the files, isnt there anything similar in kubuntu?
[06:48] <rosen> but kubuntu finds the disks but tells me that i vannot reach them, i know that in ubuntu theres a file viewer where you simply put you sudo pass and then you can acces the files, isnt there anything similar in kubuntu?
[06:51] <v3ctor> you should be able to use konqueror for that
[06:53] <rosen> welli know the way to do that but it doesnt seem to work, trying with nautilus now
[06:53] <v3ctor> point konqueror to media:/
[06:54] <rosen> thanks for the tips but i changed to nautilus and it worked like a charm ;P
[07:00] <mrmist> Hi all :)
[07:01] <mrmist> I'm having trouble with a web-page with some wmv-content... think it's  flash that runs a video-controller of some kind..
[07:01] <mrmist> neither firefox or kopete will take it
[07:01] <mrmist> anyone up for a challenge ?
[07:02] <puckman> phew
[07:02] <puckman> windows is suck a bloody pain to install
[07:02] <puckman> such
[07:02] <mrmist> hehe
[07:05] <puckman> wow, running adept updater, 315mb
[07:05] <puckman> guys have been busy
[07:05] <vge> windows is fast to install, just takes forewer to update
[07:05] <stevekl> What's going on
[07:06] <jpatrick> stevekl: not alot
[07:06] <jpatrick> just trying to get Xgl to install
[07:08] <rosen> does anybode know the string for apt-get to install limewire/dc/other filesharing program?
[07:08] <vge> do i need a better GPU than some Intel integrated card with it? :)
[07:09] <vge> rosen: search from synaptic or adept
[07:09] <rosen> okej thanks
[07:09] <v3ctor> apt-get install apollon
[07:09] <evert> hello , how can i install skype on a 64 bit kubuntu system ? it says that it won't work because i have 64 bit :( ... can somebody help me a bit pls ?
[07:10] <rosen> i would like to now that to evert
[07:10] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: do you have the live cd yet ?
[07:10] <Jaymac> yeah just booted into it
[07:10] <Jaymac> gotta go for dinner back in a bit
[07:11] <evert> because i wanna talk with some windows friends ... i really need that program (or a free alternative wich works on 64 bit)
[07:12] <puckman> Jaymac: are the gaim guys not working on sound as well?
[07:12] <puckman> I dont know if the beta has support for it yet
[07:12] <vge> evert: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/107 this has any help?
[07:12] <stevekl> What's skype?
[07:13] <puckman> stevekl: voip software
[07:13] <puckman> bought by ebay
[07:13] <evert> nope , they say in the link that it's not working... :(
[07:14] <puckman> Have you tried installing it?
[07:14] <puckman> I installed it on my system, installer claims it did not install yet it is there and works
[07:14] <evert> i'll do it again , so you can see errormessage ok ?
[07:17] <evert> it says that i've got another architecture
[07:18] <evert> so it's not possible to install skype
[07:18] <rosen> why dont you try to install it anyway?
[07:19] <evert> i can't ? it's a console window (i pressed right mouse on the skype.deb => install package) and i get the error and a 'press enter to continue' message
[07:19] <evert> so it's not possible to install it anyway.. (i think)
[07:19] <stevekl> puckman: o ok
[07:20] <evert> any idea's ?
[07:21] <vge> evert: try this one http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static  ?
[07:21] <vge> evert: sry i mean http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ then choose the "static binary"
[07:22] <rosen> aha okej
[07:22] <evert> evert@evert:~$ cd /home/evert/Desktop/skype_staticQT-<IP_ADDRESS>/skype-<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:22] <evert> evert@evert:~/Desktop/skype_staticQT-<IP_ADDRESS>/skype-<IP_ADDRESS>$ ./skype
[07:22] <evert> ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:23] <evert> that's the error i get when using the static
[07:23] <evert> wait that's wrong i'm sry
[07:23] <evert> so i searched for the 'libXcursor' but i can't find something like that :s
[07:23] <vge> you prolly dont have package named libXcursor
[07:24] <evert> i can't find it with adept
[07:24] <vge> evert: enable repos
[07:25] <evert> i enabled them
[07:26] <evert> the restricted , universe and multiverse are enabled ...
[07:26] <rosen> Connection error
[07:26] <rosen> An unhandled error was returned when trying to open a connection with the giFT daemon, which is responsible for connecting to the various networks. The reported error was:
[07:26] <rosen> Operation not permitted (1
[07:27] <rosen> what should i do?
[07:27] <v3ctor> rosen: what are you running?
[07:27] <vge> evert: if your search for libXcursor gives no output, you dont have em enabled
[07:27] <rosen> v3ctor apollon
[07:28] <v3ctor> did it install giftd when it installed apollon
[07:28] <evert> i get output
[07:28] <evert> but there are two packages broken
[07:28] <rosen> didnt se it
[07:28] <evert> the ones with libX
[07:29] <vge> fix the broken packages
[07:29] <evert> i can't install them ? How can i fix that two broken libx-cursor files ?
[07:30] <vge> im not relly fond with apt-get console commands, atleast synaptic has gui versions for doing thease things, eaven adept whould do
[07:31] <evert> i'm doing it with the graphical verion of adept ? but i can't commit changes , that gives an error :(
[07:41] <evert> noboby can help me with this ?
[07:41] <evert> i've already installed libxcursor1.1.15
[07:41] <evert> still the same error about missing libxcursor
[07:42] <rosen> well apollon didnt work but if anybody want a good p2p use gtk-gnutella
[07:42] <evert> limewire ?
[07:43] <robotgeek> rosen: dapper?
[07:44] <stevekl> I don't know about p2p but if you want a good source of (and I hope this isn't against the rules of the channel) movies and software and stuff, you should sign up with newshosting.com and get a good .nzb downloader
[07:45] <evert> i accidentely left
[07:49] <Broxtor> How can I change my keyboard language in Kubuntu Dapper? (not the mapping, only the language)
[07:49] <Broxtor> How can I change my keyboard language in Kubuntu dapper?
[07:50] <Broxtor> I don't mean the mapping, just the language.
[07:50] <Broxtor> So when I have the Dutch language "e would result in an e with two dots above it.
[07:53] <r0xz> Broxtor: for that you'll need the normal V.S English layout. but with the international (intl) variant
[07:53] <r0xz> Broxtor: you can change that in kcontrol
[07:53] <Broxtor> r0xz: thnx, will check it out.
[07:54] <Broxtor> r0xz: Got it! Thanks. Can't believe it was that simple....
[07:54] <r0xz> :)
[07:58] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: you around?
[08:04] <cedric77> hi! id like to know the command that will reply my kde version
[08:04] <cedric77> and kubuntu version
[08:04] <robotgeek> cedric77: in a kde app, about Kde fron the help menu
[08:04] <cedric77> isnt there any konsole command
[08:05] <v3ctor> kde-config --version
[08:06] <cedric77> thank you
[08:06] <cedric77> id need to find a list of terminal command
[08:06] <v3ctor> cat /etc/issue
[08:07] <v3ctor> most kde apps with the --version work
[08:07] <v3ctor> kicker --version
[08:07] <cedric77> where do you get all these command, all in your head or you have some text file with all thse?
[08:07] <_Rosen_> this is maybe not a kubuntu question but how do i choose wich ascci should be used in cowsay?
[08:08] <v3ctor> man cowsay
[08:08] <_Rosen_> tackar ;P of course
[08:08] <_Rosen_> oops swedish *thanks
[08:11] <cedric77> wow just downloaded the last build find myself having 290 upgrade needed ;)
[08:12] <cedric77> !restricted
[08:12] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:12] <cedric77> !FreeFormats
[08:12] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:16] <cedric77> does kde come with hummm an mp3 to ogg converter?
[08:24] <v3ctor> you can get mp32ogg (CLI)
[08:26] <LazySod> now, why would anyone want that?
[08:26] <LazySod> do not transcode lossy formats
[08:28] <cedric77> why
[08:28] <cedric77> because i need mp3 format for my mp3 player
[08:28] <cedric77> it doesnt support ogg
[08:28] <v3ctor> i rip all mine to ogg
[08:28] <cedric77> :S
[08:29] <thoreauputic> cedric77: you need lame I think
[08:29] <thoreauputic> !info lame
[08:29] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[08:30] <cedric77> mp32ogg might do the job if i can put ogg to mp3 as well
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: I am back
[08:30] <Jaymac> great
[08:30] <cedric77> by the way
[08:30] <_Rosen_> what video player supports .rm ?
[08:30] <cedric77> why do each time i open adept i got some mime type errors
[08:31] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: bah, i downloaded the ubuntu live cd and not kubuntu.. i hate gnome
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: does it connect to the internet tho
[08:31] <Jaymac> no
[08:31] <cedric77> !mime
[08:31] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cedric77
[08:32] <mindspin> _Rosen_: realplayer ;-)
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: run /sbin/ifconfig -a on the laptop
[08:32] <r0xz> cedric77: they know this bug
[08:32] <_Rosen_> well yes of course but are there any other ;P
[08:32] <cedric77> ho ok though i did something wrong during the installation
[08:32] <thoreauputic> cedric77: with lame you can just do lame foo.ogg foo.mp3 by the way
[08:33] <cedric77> ho nice
[08:33] <Jaymac> I have eth0, eth1, lo and sit0
[08:33] <cedric77> gotta reboot (kernel)
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> jaymac: why do you have a point to point tunnel ?
[08:34] <Jaymac> ??
[08:35] <thoreauputic> hmm actually you can't use lame to directly go ogg > mp3 ( you need sox or similar to convert to wav first )
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> jaymac: does the laptop have too nics as well ?
[08:36] <Jaymac> i'm guessing one of them is wireless?
[08:36] <Jaymac> it has one nic
[08:36] <v3ctor> thoreauputic: didn't think so...but was too lazy to check
[08:36] <trip> Anyone tried to install KMobileTools on Kubuntu 5.10?
[08:36] <Jaymac> it also has a modem
[08:37] <thoreauputic> v3ctor: i just tried it and got random noise ;)
[08:37] <thoreauputic> v3ctor: trying the wav intermedairy step now...
[08:37] <jita> why does the installer quits after the fifth step of installation of the beta release?
[08:37] <v3ctor> that is what my script uses
[08:37] <thoreauputic> *intermediary
[08:37] <Cedric77> i luv trevi55
[08:37] <Cedric77> ;)
[08:37] <v3ctor> mp3 -> wav -> ogg
[08:38] <v3ctor> ogg -> wav ->mp3
[08:38] <thoreauputic> v3ctor: right - that works
[08:41] <jita> anyone?
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Has the linux machine been restarted at all ?
[08:41] <Cedric77> it didnt here
[08:41] <Cedric77> jita:
[08:41] <trip> Anyone know where QT4 header and include files are stored when qt4 is installed via apt?
[08:41] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: the pc? no
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: Did you edit /etc/sysctl.conf ? and remove the #from the ip_forward line ?
[08:42] <jita> Cedric77: any idea, why the installer quits after 5th step:
[08:42] <jita> ?
[08:43] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: there is no ip_forward line
[08:43] <Jaymac> h3sp4wn: just these:
[08:43] <Jaymac> #kernel.domainname = example.com
[08:43] <Jaymac> #net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts=1
[08:43] <Cedric77> any error msg?
[08:44] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: put 'net/ipv4/ip_forward=1' at the bottom of the file and try restarting it
[08:45] <trip> alright how about this...does anyone know if it's possible to build and use applications desiged for QT4 with KDE 3.5.2/QT3 with QT4 installed as well?
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> Jaymac: The pc that is
[08:45] <judgen_> how do i remove the arrows in the kde menu
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> trip: make sure LDFLAGS is set properly and it should be fine
[08:46] <trip> kk i'll check that out, thanks
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> trip: depending on whether or not it uses features that are available in both QT3 and QT3
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> trip: depending on whether or not it uses features that are available in both QT3 and QT4
[08:48] <trip> Well everytime i attempt to compile regardless of my using --with-qt-dir= or not it gives me a version error
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> trip: what are you trying to build ?
[08:50] <trip> kmobiletools
[08:50] <trip> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found.
[08:51] <trip> I feel like I'm just overlooking someone simple
[08:53] <ziza> trip: did you install the dev packages from the repos?
[08:54] <trip> yeah
[08:54] <httpdss> trip: its asking for qt3 ... not qt4
[08:54] <h3sp4wn> trip: you need qt3-dev-tools
[08:55] <trip> ah
[08:56] <trip> I've got the dev tools for both versions installed
[08:56] <trip> Is there anything other than qt3-dev-tools I might be missing?
[08:57] <jpatrick> trip: missing headers?
[08:57] <jpatrick> try:  libqt3-mt-dev
[08:58] <trip> kk
[08:58] <trip> btw, really appreciate the help guys
[08:59] <huiamu> hi all
[08:59] <huiamu> i have a question
[09:00] <huiamu> is it normal for synaptic package manager to install mysql-server 30minutes , the package is 15mb ?
[09:01] <trip> wee that resolved that qt error, onto the next error!
[09:01] <v3ctor> the graphical tools seem a lot slower to me
[09:02] <huiamu> who you re talking to
[09:02] <jpatrick> trip: :)
[09:02] <huiamu> :\
[09:02] <TheNightRider``> hey all
[09:03] <Cedric77> how do i install a .deb package
[09:03] <huiamu> dpkg --help
[09:03] <jpatrick> Cedric77: dpkg -i *.deb
[09:03] <TheNightRider``> or
[09:03] <trip> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.   ...might this be a kdelibs error?
[09:04] <TheNightRider``> Right Click -> Package Manager -> Install Package
[09:04] <keffo> Morning.. I'm trying to get the nvidia driver packages, but the binary-driver-howto on the wiki says 'restricted copywright', but I cant find it?
[09:04] <TheNightRider``> keffo
[09:04] <huiamu> he he
[09:04] <keffo> copyright, even =)
[09:04] <jpatrick> trip: kdelibs4-dev
[09:04] <TheNightRider``> get easy kubuntu
[09:04] <huiamu> me too
[09:04] <trip> cool
[09:04] <Cedric77> what about that right click thing
[09:04] <Cedric77> ;)
[09:04] <TheNightRider``> it installs the .deb pack
[09:05] <huiamu> how i can install mysQl-server
[09:05] <v3ctor> apt-get install mysql-server
[09:06] <Cedric77> dpkg: error processing system:/home/Kde-look/38167-qtcurve_0.35-1_i386.deb (--install):
[09:06] <Cedric77>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:06] <Cedric77> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:06] <Cedric77>  system:/home/Kde-look/38167-qtcurve_0.35-1_i386.deb
[09:06] <v3ctor> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[09:06] <TheNightRider``> use pastebin
[09:06] <Cedric77> ?
[09:06] <jpatrick> Cedric77: don't install via system:/
i am trying with the synaptik thing but i spend 30 mins apling the changes
[09:06] <Cedric77> i just rightclicked it
[09:07] <TheNightRider``> Right Click -> Package Manager -> Install Package
[09:07] <jpatrick> Cedric77: put ~ into the location bar
[09:07] <TheNightRider``> its not so hard
[09:07] <jpatrick> TheNightRider``: he's installing from system:/
[09:07] <huiamu> is that normal for mysql-server
[09:07] <trip> I'm surprised nobody has made a kmobilephone debian package for kubuntu
[09:07] <huiamu> :O
[09:07] <jpatrick> trip: why didn't you ask?
[09:08] <keffo> TheNightRider``: Does the copyright repo. still exist in this way?
[09:08] <TheNightRider``> copyright repo?
[09:08] <TheNightRider``> what was your question again
[09:08] <TheNightRider``> the nvidia drivers?
[09:09] <keffo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> no no
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> just get easy kubuntu
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> it has multimedia packages
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> skype
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> and drivers
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> it will install them for about 15 minutes
[09:09] <keffo> what's it called?
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> with a good user-friendly interface
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> easy kubuntu
[09:09] <TheNightRider``> google it
[09:10] <keffo> it's not a package then?
[09:10] <TheNightRider``> nope
[09:11] <huiamu> why sinaptic aplies changes soo long : 35mins
[09:11] <huiamu> it seems that he is doing nothing
[09:11] <jpatrick> !easyubuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[09:14] <keffo> TheNightRider``: Groovy.
 easyubuntu.... <what about kubuntu
[09:14] <TheNightRider``> huiamu, its doing
[09:14] <TheNightRider``> easy kubuntu is the same
[09:14] <huiamu> for kubuntu ?
[09:14] <huiamu> where to get it
[09:14] <huiamu> i was asking
[09:14] <TheNightRider``> kubuntu - same linux, different graphical env.
[09:15] <v3ctor> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[09:15] <huiamu> ok
[09:15] <huiamu> huiamu
[09:16] <huiamu> why synaptic work soo long on installing mysql-server ?
[09:16] <huiamu> it was having to be finnished now
[09:17] <TheNightRider``> huiamu use adept =)
[09:17] <huiamu> i've remove it
[09:17] <huiamu> is that bad
[09:18] <[eDu] > hi
[09:19] <TheNightRider``> hi\
[09:19] <TheNightRider``> huiamu, yes its very bad
[09:19] <TheNightRider``> it installs packages easyer than with konsole
[09:25] <Broxtor> adept shows I have broken package. How can I fix that?
[09:26] <Roflcopter2323> how do i change the theme of wxwidgets
[09:26] <apokryphos> Broxtor: probably somehow from adept, or from command line: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:28] <Broxtor> apokryphos: thnx. It looks like that did the trick!
[09:31] <ports-> gah
[09:34] <Roflcopter2323> how do i change the theme of wxwidgets in kde
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody help me please, i'm sucked up my network settings
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> the problem is big i think:
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@sajt:~$ sudo echo lol
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo: unable to lookup sajt via gethostbyname()
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm deleted some dns-es and others in the kcontrol
[09:37] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: you messed up your hostname
[09:38] <temifowl> Hey anyone know why when i try to play movies from putfile, i get "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one", then "No useable audio-driver found!(alsasink)"
[09:39] <MetaMorfoziS> jpatrick what i need to restore it?
[09:41] <menno> hello i re-installed kubuntu dapper but like the other time i forgot how to get apt to work. Can someone help me again?
[09:41] <temifowl> hm lol, no one online?
[09:42] <Blissex> menno: it should just work, or use 'apt-spy' or similar to get a custom '/etc/apt/sources.list' Remember you got to prefix with 'sudo'
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> hi
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> jpatrick what i need to restore it?
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> or how can i restore it?
[09:43] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: hard work
[09:43] <temifowl> lol
[09:43] <jpatrick> got a life CD?
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[09:44] <menno> Blissex: i do sudo apt-spy, but command not found
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> reinstall? like win xp? because the network setting?
[09:44] <Blissex> menno: then so 'apt-get update' to just accept the default mirrors...
[09:44] <Blissex> MetaMorfoziS: no, don't cry
[09:44] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: boot into it and change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts so that they have the same hostnames
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> is it files?
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> or what?
[09:45] <jpatrick> files
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> named "hostname"
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> or
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> otherM
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[09:45] <puckman> hmmm, hey guys, I just ran update on flight 6 and after reboot all my fonts are very small
[09:45] <jpatrick> this is how I fixed it
[09:45] <Blissex> MetaMorfoziS: as <jpatrick> says, whatever name  you call your machine, it must be in '/etc/hosts' with address '<IP_ADDRESS>' usually
[09:45] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[09:46] <menno> yes there is something happening, but also: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> so if my machine's name is sajt
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> /etc/sajt?
[09:46] <Blissex> MetaMorfoziS: just add "sajt" to the line with "localhost" on it in '/etc/hosts'
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> oh
[09:46] <menno> Blissex: i have to kill something i guess?
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, i try it
[09:46] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: wait
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[09:47] <Blissex> menno: that should not happen, but try 'sudo killall dpkg apt-get'
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> my computer can'T connect anywhere, :(
[09:47] <jpatrick> MetaMorfoziS: example: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/679579
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> if i disconnect from this server, i never can be back.
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> my network is died
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> because i'm kill it:D
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> ed
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> so i need edit /etc/hostnames and /etc/hosts
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> and add sajt
[09:49] <menno> Blissex: i killed it: no process killed it says
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> ok.the "hostname" has only one line, ant it's sajt
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> the hoststhe hosts.allow is empty (except comments)
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> /etc/host.conf
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> /etc/hostname
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> /etc/hosts
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> /etc/hosts.allow
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> /etc/hosts.deny
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> sorry
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i thinked it's only one line
[09:51] <menno> Blissex: but after apt-get update still the same:E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> so i has this host files
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> /cmd ls /etc/host*
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> if no other idea
[09:53] <MetaMorfoziS> i try to reset it or go to die:)
[09:53] <MetaMorfoziS> thx all, and bye all
[09:53] <Blissex> menno: have you done 'killall dpkg apt-get'? If so, then do /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[09:53] <Blissex> menno: have you done 'killall dpkg apt-get'? If so, then do 'rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[09:54] <menno> Blissex: i'm sorry, my child is crying i'll check in l;ater
[09:54] <zaikxtox> i have read the announce of the 6.06 beta of kubuntu (i-m debian user now)
[09:55] <zaikxtox> and and read about Faster system startup and login
[09:56] <zaikxtox> while i usually does not reboot my machine more than twice at month , i'm intrigued on the way they made the startup faster. is kubuntu implementing bacground daemons?
[09:57] <Blissex> zaikxtox: sort of...
[09:57] <zaikxtox> fine. i hace done that on my old PII some years ago and was cool, but a lot of work to implement against the os.
[09:58] <zaikxtox> i'm really going to install kubuntu :)
[09:59] <crimsun> you might want to hold off til later this week.
[09:59] <crimsun> there's a rather critical installer bug that was just fixed (eats HD partitions for supper), and a new snapshot will be rolled
[10:02] <menno> Blissex: i removed /var/lib/dpkg/lock now
[10:03] <zaikxtox> crimsun, yes. i'm reading about
[10:03] <Blissex> menno: try with 'apt-get update' again
[10:03] <zaikxtox> anyway, while installing it i gonna keep my mainhard drive unplugged :D
[10:03] <zaikxtox> and just leave my old ide
[10:04] <menno> Blissex: i do not see an error anymore:)
[10:04] <Blissex> menno: now you can also 'apt-get install apt-spy' or similar and rerun that.
[10:05] <zaikxtox> or maybe i should symply wait until june, to the release
[10:05] <menno> Blissex: could not find package
[10:05] <zaikxtox> if i can wait 2 years for each debian stable release... i can wait 2 months to try kubuntu
[10:07] <Blissex> menno: odd, but there is another similar one whose name I can't remember though; do a search on the web for a mirror selection utility for Ubuntu
[10:08] <menno> Blissex: i tried sudo apt-get install synaptic and that is working
[10:09] <Blissex> menno: 'synaptic' is a good thing, but a mirror selection utility can choose for you the fastest APT mirrors...
[10:10] <menno> Blissex: it asked for the CD and now i have synaptic running...
[10:13] <menno> Blissex: adept is still not running, si i continue with synaptic now. Thank you for helping me out here
[10:13] <MeTTY> re
[10:13] <MeTTY> jpatrixk is you here?
[10:13] <Blissex> menno: OK...
[10:13] <MeTTY> Blissex: you saw my problem
[10:13] <MeTTY> i'm metamorfozis who deleted the dns, and can't sudo
[10:14] <MeTTY> i'm under the root terminal
[10:14] <Blissex> MeTTY: have you edited '/etc/hosts'?
[10:14] <MeTTY> i'm tried editing the /etc/hosts.conf and /etc/hostname
[10:14] <MeTTY> in the /etc/hosts
[10:14] <MeTTY> is a comment that said about some ipv6 and undr that sajt
[10:15] <MeTTY> i rewrited it to: "sajt localhost"
[10:15] <MeTTY> but not work
[10:15] <HymnToLife> MeTTY> check your /etc/hosts
[10:15] <MeTTY> yes, im in that
[10:15] <HymnToLife> the first line sould say <IP_ADDRESS> your_hostname
[10:15] <_chris> how can i configure my wifi to connect automatically?
[10:15] <MeTTY> no:D
[10:15] <MeTTY> i write it to it
[10:15] <MeTTY> moment
[10:15] <MeTTY> my hostname is my machine's name?
[10:16] <MeTTY> (sajt) ?
[10:16] <HymnToLife> it's /etc/hosts, NOT /etc/hosts.conf ;)
[10:16] <MeTTY> yes
[10:16] <MeTTY> /etc/hosts:)
[10:16] <HymnToLife> MeTTY> yes, the stuff that's written in /etc/hostname
[10:16] <MeTTY> ok, i writed <IP_ADDRESS> sajt to /etc/hosts
[10:17] <HymnToLife> then reboot
[10:17] <MeTTY> i need it to hostname?
[10:17] <HymnToLife> if your hostname is sajt, it shuld work
[10:17] <_chris> how can i configure my wifi to connect automatically?
[10:17] <MeTTY> the "hostname" contains only one line "sajt"
[10:17] <HymnToLife> !tell _chris about repeat
[10:17] <MeTTY> okay, i try it, thank you i hope i'm backD:
[10:17] <MeTTY> :D
[10:17] <HymnToLife> then it's OK
[10:17] <HymnToLife> reboot :)
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> huh
[10:20] <MetaMorfoziS> the sudo is still work
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> so i get back to my original state
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i need sudo dhclient to get network work.
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> tank you all
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> for gelping me
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> and this time, how can i bind "sudo dhclient" for startup?
[10:22] <uniq> use /etc/network/interfaces
[10:22] <uniq> iface ethX inet dhcp
[10:22] <uniq> auto ethX
[10:23] <uniq> will bring up ethX using dhcp automatically.
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:23] <uniq> those two lines are to be put in the /etc/network/intefaces file.
[10:23] <uniq> no, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> hm
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i hasn't got that
[10:23] <uniq> and put the two lines i wrote in it.
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> ok i create it
[10:24] <uniq> replace ethX with eth0 or whatever your interface is named.
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> yes 0, i think.
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> hoho i found the ppoe settings
[10:25] <uniq> you can find out with 'ifconfig -a'
[10:25] <uniq> the names, that is.
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> i need comment all of that shits and wrote that lines?
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i commented all
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> and wroted it
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i go reboot for test
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> thank you, i'll be back
[10:28] <mzuverink> I know that in Ubuntu's Gnome packages there is the menu editor 'smeg', that when you edit the Gnome menu it does not atleast alter the Xubuntu-desktop menu.  If you install the Kubuntu_desktop is there a menu editor that only alters the Kubuntu-desktop menu?  I only want kubuntu to show KDE apps, Gnome show Gnome apps, etc.
[10:30] <MetaMorfoziS> it works!
[10:30] <MetaMorfoziS> thank you
[10:30] <MetaMorfoziS> for($i=0;$i<=1000;$i++) echo "thank you"; // :)
[10:33] <ccc_> mzuverink: right click the k-menu icon, choose 'menu editor'.
[10:34] <mzuverink> ccc_:thanks for the answer
[10:36] <qualus> heya! can anyone please help ? i need to disable Konqueror from popping up when i i.e. click on links in IRC, instead i want Firefox to handle them.. but i'm at a loss when it comes to Konqueror O_o
[10:37] <ccc_> qualus: try system settings > user account > default applications > web browser
[10:38] <qualus> ok, done that
[10:38] <qualus> it still launches konqueror O_o
[10:40] <qualus> the default browser is set to FIrefox, from both the default applications-menu and the browser itself..
[10:40] <qualus> what i can't figure out, is how to config Konqueror O_o
[10:41] <Blissex> qualus: look at the components and file types.
[10:42] <robby> I have a question
[10:42] <robby> is anyone there?
[10:43] <robby> is there anyone in here?
[10:43] <qualus> just ask, mate :)
[10:44] <robby_> ok thanx
[10:44] <qualus> get's you through faster :p
[10:44] <qualus> heh
[10:44] <robby_> its about redistribution of unbuntu
[10:44] <qualus> Blissex:  cheers, mate, i got it now
[10:44] <robby_> so many distros never truelly state or are fuzzy on redistribution
[10:44] <robby_> what I want to do is load machines with this OS and sale them on ebay
[10:44] <robby_> would that be legal
[10:44] <robby_> I want to ask first before I do
[10:45] <robby_> Cause  some people said unbuntu is totally free as in you can do whatever you want with it.. as in make a profit on it. .like loading it on machines and selling them on ebay
[10:45] <robby_> I was just wondering if theres any truth to that
[10:45] <robby_> ?
[10:45] <uniq> I can't understand why that shouldn't be legal.
[10:46] <robby_> Is ubuntu 100 percent legal.. as in no restraints?
[10:46] <Ubugtu> Ubuntu bug 100 in libtiff3g "gqview: segfaults while browsing a directory tree" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=100
[10:46] <temifowl> robby, since your not selling ubuntu, but the hd it is free
[10:46] <temifowl> but since you dont need it to be installed, why bother?
[10:47] <robby_> Is there any high rankers in here you could to be sure.
[10:47] <qualus> i've sold dozens of HDD*s with Ubuntu ready installed, and never ran into any problems with the community
[10:47] <temifowl> check on there site
[10:47] <robby_> I want to install it on the machines I sell... to actuall get people used to linux
[10:47] <robby_> it doesnt state on their site
[10:47] <temifowl> why..
[10:47] <temifowl> just give em an empty hd, less work
[10:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> GUys? can i access a ext3 using samba from windows?
[10:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or does it have to be a windows recognized file system?
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> Tallia1Kubuntu: if you has the power of god:D
[10:47] <robby_> this is a distro that can get a big movement started
[10:47] <robby_> I usta be a windows person.. and now im not
[10:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> MetaMorfoziS: ?
[10:48] <temifowl> robby_, i suggest you dont give linux to people who dont knwo how to use it
[10:48] <robby_> they can learn
[10:48] <robby_> I mean ubuntu is so easy
[10:48] <temifowl> not most people
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> you can get sharing work via samba between linux and win
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> but i'm can't help you in that
[10:48] <temifowl> most people and computers dont work
[10:49] <robby_> samba is faster than windows nt
[10:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes, but in the past i shared only a fat32.. does it work with ext3?
[10:49] <uniq> my grandmother use kubuntu. It's not hard to use at all.
[10:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> uniq: grandmother... holy shit!! :)
[10:49] <robby_> see I could have sworn last week.. that it said on there website that like dabian, ubuntu is 100 percent fre as in freedom
[10:49] <robby_> but now I cant find that page
[10:50] <temifowl> you cant SELL linux
[10:50] <temifowl> you can give it
[10:50] <robby_> thats what I mean
[10:50] <robby_> give it with the hard drive
[10:50] <robby_> as a gift
[10:50] <temifowl> thats why you can dl it for free
[10:50] <uniq> i've setup a KIOSK environment for her.. so she can't break anything though.. but still, checking e-mail and surfing the web with kubuntu.
[10:50] <temifowl> yes you can
[10:50] <temifowl> but why???
[10:50] <robby_> to be nice and to spread linux
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> you can sell it - IBM pretty much sells it and makes money
[10:50] <robby_> I want linux to spread
[10:50] <temifowl> thats being mean more then nice
[10:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: how ibm sells it?
[10:50] <temifowl> to most people linux is HELL, most techies cant even use linux
[10:50] <temifowl> my moms work has a linux server but no one there knwos how to use it
[10:51] <robby_> its because it doesnt have 1 standard
[10:51] <robby_> and your decompiling it on the fly
[10:51] <robby_> but this version of linux is a piece of cake
[10:51] <h3sp4wn> ibm: service based model they change for building and implimenting solutions
[10:51] <temifowl> to YOU
[10:51] <temifowl> not to everyone
[10:52] <temifowl> best thing to do is just give an empty hd
[10:52] <temifowl> maybe a free live cd
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> Best thing to do is give them freebsd and the freebsd handbook and refuse to speak to them until the have read it - then let them use stuff that does everything for you
[10:53] <temifowl> heh
[10:53] <temifowl> that would be funny
[10:53] <chx> I just survived a kwin crash by switching to a text console and export DISPLAY=:0 and kwin --replace&        Kubuntu just rocks.
[10:53] <temifowl> lolol
[10:53] <chx> (though it took some time to figure out the correct DISPLAY)
[10:54] <temifowl> only bad thing, the wine isnt working well for me
[10:54] <temifowl> everytime i try to install with the emulator it crashes
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> what emulatot ?
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> what emulator ?
[10:54] <temifowl> Wine
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> Wine is not an emulator
[10:55] <temifowl> yes..
[10:55] <temifowl> a windows emulator
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> Thats what wine stands for
[10:55] <temifowl> so...
[10:55] <temifowl> why are you saying its not
[10:56] <uniq> robby_: to answer your question. yes, it is legal. You are encouraged to spread and preinstall ubuntu :)
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> It does not work like an emulator
[10:56] <temifowl> ..
[10:56] <temifowl> but it is
[10:56] <ccc_> temifowl: Wine = *W*ine *I*s *N*ot an *E*mulator. it's not an emulator :)
[10:56] <temifowl> lol...
[10:56] <temifowl> so random
[10:57] <temifowl> why is it not an emulator :o
[10:57] <ccc_> temifowl: http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wine-faq/index#IS-WINE-AN-EMULATOR
[10:57] <temifowl> *W*hy *I*s it *N*ot an *E*mulator :D
[10:57] <ccc_> :)
[10:58] <uniq> robby_: you might want to take a look at oem-config. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/oem-config
[10:58] <temifowl> "Wine Is Not a (CPU) Emulator."
[10:58] <temifowl> key words are
[10:58] <temifowl> CPU
[10:59] <temifowl> flop in a windows usuable cd, and it says wine emulator
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> temifowl you should use the latest daily tarbuild and build it yourself
[11:00] <MacAnthony> wine isn't an emulator, they are ported libraries. It's closer to a runtime environment than an emulator
[11:00] <temifowl> for what?
[11:00] <temifowl> its called an emulator
[11:01] <temifowl> h3sp4wn for what?
[11:01] <chx> temifowl: it's not an emulator, it's an implementation of Win32 API
[11:01] <chx> which happens to run on Linux kernel
[11:01] <temifowl> its CALLED
[11:01] <temifowl> i can print screen if you want
[11:01] <chx> it's not even called that :)
[11:02] <temifowl> let me print screen
[11:02] <temifowl> hm
[11:02] <temifowl> not even running my cd
[11:02] <temifowl> not cool
[11:02] <temifowl> ok
[11:02] <temifowl> right click on a exe for windows
[11:02] <temifowl> it says
[11:02] <temifowl> Wine Windows Emultor
[11:02] <temifowl> i can even SHOW you
[11:03] <temifowl> hm maybe not, unless theres a timer
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> It only works with certain programs
[11:03] <temifowl> gimmi 2 sec
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> cross-over office may be more useful to you
[11:03] <MacAnthony> 1
[11:03] <MacAnthony> 2
[11:03] <MacAnthony> :)
[11:04] <temifowl> heh
[11:04] <temifowl> so slow gosh
[11:04] <temifowl> ok
[11:04] <temifowl> CLICK HERE
[11:04] <temifowl> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=4/11316041637.png&s=x402
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> temifowl: What app do you want to run
[11:05] <temifowl> im trying to install wc3 lol
[11:05] <temifowl> ooh while your there look beside the drop down, a picture of me vaulting a ledge :D
[11:06] <temifowl> so
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> whats wc3 ? Warcraft 3 ?
[11:06] <temifowl> ya
[11:06] <temifowl> lol
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> on cedega or wine standard /
[11:07] <temifowl> uh
[11:07] <temifowl> donno, it just ran by itself using wine
[11:07] <temifowl> it said like, Using wine to start or something
[11:07] <temifowl> then it froze mid install
[11:08] <Search4Lancer> I wish i could get Wine to work worth a goddamn....
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> you shoud use wine version 0.9.12
[11:08] <temifowl> lol
[11:08] <temifowl> hm
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1177 the is a pretty comprehensive howto on how to do it ther
[11:10] <CellarDoor> Anyone ever had no sound in one user account but no problem in root or other accounts ? Wondering what this might be ?
[11:11] <MacAnthony> you have a root account?
[11:11] <crimsun> CellarDoor: is your user account in the audio group?
[11:11] <temifowl> sweet
[11:11] <CellarDoor> no, actually, I have a friend who is using linspire, but I thought I'd ask about it in here also on the off chance someone might be familiar with such a problem.
[11:12] <CellarDoor> I have no problems with kubuntu :)
[11:12] <CellarDoor> (except that wierdness that occurred when I installed the seti@home screensaver... dont do it, its really annoying)
[11:13] <CellarDoor> crimsun: this is on behalf of someone else, but I'll check
[11:17] <temifowl> is there a way to check what ver of Wine i have?
[11:18] <temifowl> hm nm
[11:18] <temifowl> lol
[11:18] <_harm> temifowl wine --version  i think
[11:18] <Blissex> temifowl: 'dpkg --info wine'
[11:19] <MerlinofChaos_> Hi
[11:19] <_harm> ih
[11:19] <temifowl> i just updated it and it said the ver lol
[11:20] <MerlinofChaos_> Can you please tell me how to enable the zeroconf service? When I use some services which require it, it says it doesn't find the daemon.
[11:22] <temifowl> hey is there a command to eject cdrom, cause my cdrom wont open
[11:22] <_harm> temifowl that might also work eh :P
[11:22] <temifowl> anyone?
[11:22] <temifowl> im desperate to take this cd out
[11:22] <_harm> temifowl do you see the CD on your desktop? just hit the eject
[11:23] <temifowl> no i dont :P
[11:23] <MerlinofChaos_> So.... anyone knows how to enable zeroconf?
[11:23] <_harm> MerlinofChoas i sure dont
[11:24] <uniq> temifowl: in konsole: 'eject'
[11:24] <temifowl> merlinofchaos, do a google search of ubnutu+zerconf
[11:24] <_harm> google doesnt help a lot
[11:24] <_harm> check the wiki
[11:24] <temifowl> shit lol
[11:24] <temifowl> is there eject2?
[11:24] <MerlinofChaos_> Oh well
[11:24] <temifowl> cause it opened my first drive
[11:25] <uniq> temifowl: eject /dev/hdc
[11:25] <uniq> /dev/hdX
[11:25] <temifowl> would it be 2?
[11:26] <temifowl> hm not 1 or 2
[11:26] <temifowl> um its not 1-6...
[11:26] <uniq> 'dmesg|grep -i cd'
[11:27] <uniq> will give you a output similar to:
[11:27] <uniq> [   27.960265]  hdc: SONY DVD RW DW-Q78A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[11:27] <uniq> that tells me that /dev/hdc is my dvdrw.
[11:27] <temifowl> SB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[11:27] <temifowl> [4294678.556000]  usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[11:27] <temifowl> [4294693.054000]  cdrom: open failed.
[11:27] <temifowl> [4294693.058000]  cdrom: open failed.
[11:27] <_harm> flood
[11:27] <temifowl> ya ya
[11:28] <_harm> just reboot ad during booting open :P
[11:28] <temifowl> smart :D
[11:29] <uniq> temifowl: is it a IDE device? or sata?
[11:30] <temifowl> no clue
[11:30] <temifowl> i have a dvd and a cd drive
[11:30] <uros> hi all - having some difficulty with realplayer + konqueror - konqueror won't embed player (realplayer installed and works with firefox though)
[11:30] <ubuntu> I finally got kubuntu correctly reporting a hostname to my linksys router with the <send host-name "hostname"> command in dhclient.conf however how can I make it so I can just ping the hostname of another machine.
[11:32] <uniq> temifowl: does 'grep -i cd /var/log/kern.log|head -n4' give you anything useful? (use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com to paste multiple lines)
[11:33] <uniq> ubuntu: you can manually set that up in /etc/hosts, for single machines.
[11:33] <temifowl> uh
[11:34] <temifowl> gimmi a sec
[11:34] <ubuntu> uniq: However, we are using dynamic ip adresses.
[11:34] <temifowl> grep: unknown directories method
[11:35] <uniq> ubuntu: then you would need a nameserver which updates dynamically from the dhcp-server.
[11:36] <ubuntu> nameserver... you mean a dns server? we have them defined... but the gateway is not the dns
[11:37] <uniq> ubuntu: yes, a dns server, but, the dns-server must talk to the dhcp-server to update hostnames with new ips if they change dynamically.
[11:38] <ubuntu> oh :(
[11:39] <ubuntu> sounds like I need to go a different way then... thank you
[11:39] <uniq> static ips with a list of ips and hostnames in /etc/hosts is a simple and fast way of doing what you want.