[00:01] <pdcmoreira> can i do sudo apt-get purge php* safely?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: What release have you installed, as trusty shows "Version: 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4" as the proper version .
[00:02] <pdcmoreira> vesion of linux?
[00:02] <pdcmoreira> latest 14.04
[00:02] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: Yes, what release of ubuntu is installed ?
[00:02] <pdcmoreira> latest 14.04
[00:02] <XepoofBNC> uname -a on bash
[00:03] <underplay> Whats a good GUI for KDE that can decrypt/encrypt and manage GPG keys? Something besides gpg4usb and not kelopatra either
[00:03] <pdcmoreira> it says 3.13.0-32-generic
[00:04] <bmuk`> EriC^^: I apologize for being so much trouble. I have googled this to no end and I can't seem to fix it. I would rather not have to reinstall completely
[00:04] <EriC^^> bmuk`: did this happen after a graphics driver update?
[00:04] <bmuk`> I don't believe so. I have intel integrated graphics
[00:04] <pdcmoreira> wait is this 32 bit? i think i've downloaded 64 bit as it is for a php server for a huge app
[00:05] <EriC^^> bmuk`: you could try to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:05] <elimskrad> best channel to get ddos and router support. Etherape etc. Hackers been having there way on my home networ. Thanks :-D
[00:06] <OerHeks> elimskrad, wrong channel to ask
[00:06] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: To se the installed version(s) -> dpkg -l nginx php5-fpm <- .
[00:06] <pdcmoreira> aaah 5.5.9
[00:06] <pdcmoreira> :D
[00:06] <pdcmoreira> i guess it's all ok then
[00:07] <pdcmoreira> so that "Ondřej Surý" repo is not needed anymore?
[00:07] <underplay> Whats a good GUI for KDE that can decrypt/encrypt and manage GPG keys? Something besides gpg4usb and not kelopatra either
[00:07] <OerHeks> elimskrad, try #security or ##networking
[00:08] <underplay> #security
[00:08] <elimskrad> thank you OerHeks
[00:09] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: well, on a fresh install, and all the applications installed, then no, there is no need of a PPA that will cause dependency conflicts.
[00:09] <pdcmoreira> hmm
[00:09] <OerHeks> underplay, i think kwallet does that? you might want to ask in #kubuntu too.
[00:09] <pdcmoreira> but i tried sudo apt-get install php5 php5-curl php5-cli php5-cgi php5-pear php5-imagick php5-gd php5-fpm php5-pdo php5-mcrypt and it said ir couldnt find php5-pear and php5-pdo
[00:10] <underplay> ok thanks Oerheks ill check out kwallet
[00:10] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: why are you not using the official lamp guide?
[00:10] <pdcmoreira> i'm trying to install lemp
[00:11] <Bashing-om> pdcmoreira: -> apt-cache show php5-pear <- ??
[00:11] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: i think you're supposed to install libapache2-mod-php5 , only
[00:11] <EriC^^> you'd get php5-cli and others with it
[00:11] <OerHeks> pdcmoreira, what guide are you using anyway?
[00:11] <pdcmoreira> can't find php5-pear package
[00:11] <EriC^^> !lamp | pdcmoreira
[00:11] <pdcmoreira> http://www.smartpixels.net/how-to-lamp-lemp-ubuntu-14-04-lts-server-271/#smartTabs2 <- this one
[00:12] <pdcmoreira> EriC^^, that guide says it installs php5
[00:13] <pdcmoreira> so it seems to be hugely outdated
[00:13] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: which is 5.5.9
[00:13] <EriC^^> no, you'd get the latest version
[00:13] <OerHeks> pdcmoreira, even thaqt PPA mentioned, had no php5-pear candidate :-D
[00:13] <pdcmoreira> are you sure? because other sites say that ubuntu doesn't install 5.5
[00:13] <OerHeks> funny guide
[00:13] <tburke> yes yes y'all
[00:13] <EriC^^> pdcmoreira: quite sure, yes
[00:14] <pdcmoreira> well it says in my system that 5.5.9 is installed so
[00:14] <pdcmoreira> i guess is all right
[00:15] <EriC^^> there are actually stuff you don't have
[00:15] <EriC^^> which i'd think were important
[00:15] <EriC^^> php5-common php5-readline
[00:15] <pdcmoreira> the app is made in laravel framework
[00:16] <pdcmoreira> so i guess i need that php5-pdo?
[00:16] <EriC^^> i'd follow the official guide
[00:16] <pdcmoreira> because eloquent (laravel's ORM) uses pdo i think
[00:17] <somsip> pdcmoreira: yes it does
[00:17] <EriC^^> and add whatever you need
[00:18] <dsnyders> Hi all!  What's the best way to move /var to a new partition?
[00:18] <bmuk`> EriC^^: dist-upgrade still didn't help. I'm convinced this is a compiz problem, I just don't know why it isn't loading the composite plugin
[00:18] <EriC^^> bmuk`: guest account doesn't work, right?
[00:19] <bmuk`> I believe it did work when I tried it the other day, let me try quickly
[00:20] <bmuk`> guest account boots to unity just fine
[00:20] <pdcmoreira> err... great
[00:20] <pdcmoreira> i just did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[00:21] <pdcmoreira> now it asks me which server should be configured automatically
[00:21] <pdcmoreira> either apache2 or lightppd
[00:21] <pdcmoreira> i have nginx :s
[00:21] <newroad> does anyone know of a solid powerful ubuntu gaming laptop that isn’t system76? their stuff is so buggy and their support is horrible and rude
[00:21] <rypervenche> pdcmoreira: You'll have to set up a virtualhost yourself for nginx. It's very easy to do.
[00:22] <minimec> bmuk`: How did you reset unity before? Like this? --> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:22] <Lobster`> Just get a powerful windows laptop and install ubuntu on it
[00:22] <WeiJunLi> Tried to run a .exe file and received this output http://bpaste.net/show/bdf9694a39a5 - how to fix this?
[00:22] <Lobster`> linux doesnt run .exe
[00:22] <newroad> lobster, but so many have driver/compatibility issues.
[00:22] <WeiJunLi> Lobster`: it does
[00:22] <bmuk`> minimec: I am in tty1 now, I can't see that link, could you summarize? just dconf reset -f /org/compiz?
[00:23] <Lobster`> wine isnt linux, its a software layer windows emulator
[00:23] <WeiJunLi> Lobster`: alright, so how to fix that error with wine?
[00:23] <OerHeks> WeiJunLi, for wine application help, join #winehq
[00:23] <somsip> Lobster`: Wine Is Not an Emulator :)
[00:26] <netlar> I am setting up a system for a family member. Is there a way to add to system wide help?
[00:26] <minimec> bmuk`: exactly. ok. YOur configuration seems 'borked'. If you want to solve it manually, I would make a copy of the config folders, and try again...
[00:26] <minimec> I would do ... 'mv .compiz .compiz-old && mv compiz-1 compiz-1-old && mv .gconf gconf-old && mv .config .config-old'
[00:26] <bmuk`> can't I just remove those folders? I don't have anything important in there
[00:27] <minimec> bmuk`: Afterwards you will have to copy the working configurations for your apps back from .config-old to .config, if needed.
[00:27] <netlar> Maybe like add a section of my own, tailored just to them?
[00:28] <minimec> bmuk`: Your choice. All your app config will be gone.
[00:28] <EriC^^> bmuk`: question, do you have unity-tweak-tool ?
[00:29] <bmuk`> no I don't
[00:29] <bmuk`> I removed all of those folders, the only one i hadn't removed before was gconf
[00:29] <farobank> Each and every one of you are a disgrace to the concept of free speech.        This is Cholby.        The fappening is discussed on heavily-censored CNN, however not on freenode.  What does
[00:29] <farobank> that say about you?  Not much.  lol fag
[00:30] <bmuk`> It's fixed now
[00:30] <minimec> bmuk`: Heureka ;)
[00:30] <bmuk`> thank you all!  Other topics are *not allowed here*. Repeated offtopic chatter will result in your removal from this room.
[01:04] <somsip> html_has_headach: so, that is your script. Put all of those commands in a file, put "#!/bin/bash" as line 1, and chmod +x on the file.
[01:07] <mguy> I'm getting a bunch of 'hash Sum mismatch' errors when I try to apt-get update 12.04 server
[01:08] <mguy> 14.04 seems to work fine, any ideas?
[01:08] <tac_> Is it just me, or does the version of grep that comes with Ubuntu not glob properly?
[01:09] <OerHeks> mguy, an idea is to look what package/repository is doing that
[01:09] <tac_> hm, as soon as I say that
[01:09] <tac_> it works as usual :)
[01:09] <scaghead> OerHeks: bravo
[01:09] <mguy> Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages
[01:10] <OerHeks> precise = 12.04 ..
[01:10] <scaghead> mguy: so
[01:10] <OerHeks> edit your sources.list :-)
[01:11] <tac_> err no, I guess it's still not working
[01:14] <mguy> OerHeks: Why? This is a fresh out of the box install
[01:14] <EriC^^> mguy: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* && sudo apt-get update
[01:15] <mguy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/446109/apt-get-update-gives-bzip2-error-on-fresh-ubuntu-12-04lts-in-virtual-box-versi  that's the same one I get
[01:15] <OerHeks> mguy i understood you updated 12.04 to 14.04
[01:15] <mguy> EriC^^: Same error
[01:15] <mguy> OerHeks: No, I have 14.04 install that works fine
[01:16] <mguy> But I need older versions of php to duplicate another server so I used 12.04
[01:17] <noud_is_nol> (03:16:44) nog_iemand: (IM) Information Management
[01:17] <OerHeks> i would remove the lists, not the partial >> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <Spiderkeys> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, have an Nvidia GTX580, and am having problems with colour banding, as if it was set to 16bit colour depth. The settings present in the nvidia-settings app show that I am indeed set to 24 bit depth, despite that. I've tried a few different drivers (both Nouveau and proprietary), but that doesn't seem to help the situation. ANy ideas for what might be causing this problem or how I can further pursue th
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:15:48) roasted: rww: sleepin on the job bro? :P
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:04) nog_iemand: ##unix given 88, given #netbsd blocks
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:12) blitz: phunyguy plz
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:21) nog_iemand: whos the fuck sleeping
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> (03:18:19) iemand: (03:16:22) phunyguy: hello
[01:19] <noud_is_nol>  see above ^^^
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> ^
[01:19] <noud_is_nol> we work together
[01:20] <somsip> !ops | noud_is_nol (cross posting repeatedly)
[01:20] <OerHeks> noud_is_nol, we don't care, so stop it, thanks.
[01:22] <dodah> is there another webcam program besides cheese. (thats good) ?
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> yes pardon had and have a help-feeling down local here as well
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> sure is
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> first Vid4Linux things
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> euu..uu..what's the exact?
[01:22] <noud_is_nol> # what's the exact?
[01:24] <digitalsave> test
[01:24] <somsip> !test | digitalsave
[01:24] <digitalsave> anyone having issues with openssh-server not allowing connections from the outside?
[01:25] <somsip> digitalsave: only when it's not configured correctly
[01:25] <SchrodingersScat> digitalsave: you?
[01:25] <digitalsave> this is a fresh install and i can connect locally but it refuses my password externallt
[01:26] <EriC^^> digitalsave: are you logging in as ssh user@host ?
[01:26] <porfa> can anyone helkp me out with some ownership issues/questions ?
[01:26] <digitalsave> port forwarding it correct as i can reach and accept the key
[01:26] <digitalsave> yes EriC^^
[01:26] <dodah> well, i'm not sure what you all our talking about.. i'm wanting to know if there is a better program than Cheese..
[01:26] <dodah> i'm from kansas
[01:26] <dodah> :)
[01:26] <porfa> here it goes, i am editing some .php files that are in my webroot, but the thing is, my actual user doesn't have rights to write the files, just to read them, how do i give (and should i give) permissions to my user to write on those files, or should i just create a new user with write acess to my webroot like www-data does?
[01:27] <dodah> back in the old days that was flooding the channel
[01:27] <mguy> EriC^^: nuking the lists/ directory did the trick
[01:27] <porfa> sorry dodah
[01:28] <somsip> porfa: on a dev machine, add your user to www-group, logout and back in again, chgrp -R www-data /var/www, chmod -R g+s /var/www
[01:28] <dodah> no problem
[01:28] <somsip> porfa: then anything created in /var/www will be www-data group, which you will be a part of. Only safe for a dev machine though
[01:29] <porfa> it's a server and it's online ..! would it be safe to create a new diferent user just to edit docs on the /var/www/html folder? would it be safer? i know nothing about security, im just editing some phps
[01:30] <digitalsave> sshd was up and running until recently just fine and then started denying my password with access denied with nothing in auth.log as to why it was denied. i messed around with it and finally just blanked the system incase i messed up some of the auth files or something. a fresh install does the same thing. i disaled the ecdsa keys thinking maybe that was causing issues but get the same thing
[01:31] <Fall> digitalsave: did you check /etc/hosts.deny
[01:32] <digitalsave> i did and it is blank - fresh system
[01:33] <somsip> porfa: if you are editing php files on a live server, you don't have a safe deployment process.
[01:34] <porfa> i wish i could properly write what is happening here, i will trya nd hope my feelings get across
[01:34]  * EriC^^ pulls a couch for porfa to lay on
[01:35] <porfa> well, it's live on the owncloud part and mysql, that's online.. i am editing some prestashop php/smarty files on a service that isn't really online yet, it's still under development, but i only have this server, so i have to edit the files this way
[01:35] <porfa> sorry EriC^^ :(
[01:35] <EriC^^> lol, :)
[01:35] <afrokarlsson> what happens when in monday born person go s over 2 see in same day once, tuesday twice..., sunday seven times
[01:36] <dodah> i don't feelings really matter around here...
[01:36] <somsip> porfa: have a read of this which mostly mirrors what I've said, but makes an important point that /var/www whoudl be root:root and only some of the contents should be :www-data. There are links to other questions that may help you too. http://is.gd/J2lS84
[01:36] <porfa> i think i expressing myself wrong, wngflish not my fgirst language, i meant to say something more like of thoughts maybe
[01:36] <dodah> don't worry about it
[01:36] <dodah> life goes on
[01:37] <porfa> somsip thank you very nice for that link
[01:37] <dodah> have not done nothing wrong in my book..
[01:38] <somsip> porfa: on a live server, permissions should be very tight. On a dev server, they can be more relaxed. Best to get it right now if you are working on a server that will go live one day.
[01:38] <dodah> course mine is a little book.. :)
[01:38] <somsip> *dev = local
[01:38] <dodah> bigger
[01:38] <dodah> Gods above me.. trust me..
[01:39] <EriC^^> dodah: lol, i thought it was a funny.. like he was about share his childhood or something
[01:39] <EriC^^> that's all
[01:39] <dodah> right
[01:39] <dodah> got it
[01:39] <phunyguy> Can we stay on topic with support please?
[01:40] <dodah> ahhhhhh can some help me set my clock?
[01:40] <somsip> !time | dodah
[01:40] <dodah> i hate bots
[01:40] <dodah> get real
[01:41] <dodah> these are people
[01:46] <maherrera89> Hello
[01:47] <maherrera89> expunge, you there?
[01:47] <_unreal_> god I love linux, total crash and yet I still recovered
[01:48] <maherrera89> Hello all, I have an issue with my pc, the sound does not work when I play videos (youtube or Facebook), I do not think is the sound driver because it does play the music in Rhythmbox, any one with a hint?
[01:54] <html_has_headach> wait what?  i am banned?  i was just afking here .
[01:55] <OerHeks> html_has_headach, no you're not
[01:56] <html_has_headach> somsip,  this is a post install script - i  need the dir and the chlid read and writeable .
[01:57] <html_has_headach> !grep | html_has_headach
[02:02] <somsip> html_has_headach: which directory? Readable and writeable by whom?
[02:07] <html_has_headach> what is chmod +x ? what does this mean?
[02:07] <linuxlid><PHONE_NUMBER>3
[02:08] <somsip> html_has_headach: it makes a file executable.
[02:08] <linuxlid> you can "man chmon"
[02:09] <somsip> html_has_headach: and the line starting 'echo "-Xmx1024M...' should be 'echo "java -Xmx1024M...' from what you seem to be trying to do
[02:14] <saiarcot895> html_has_headach: chmod +x specifically adds executable permissions to the file for everyone
[02:18] <hanasaki> what is a good opensource way to setup vm's or lxc's that are in a pool that users can log into?
[02:19] <somsip> hanasaki: that's not really anything to do with ubuntu. Docker springs to mind, but further discussion would be OT
[02:19] <hanasaki> well looking to use ubuntu as the base host for the system
[02:21] <somsip> hanasaki: ubuntu will likely support whatever solution you decide on. So you need to find a solution. It depends very much by what you mean by 'pool' and what use case you;re looking at. I'd suggest researching serveroverflow or something similar
[02:21] <hanasaki> thanks.
[02:22] <hanasaki> somsip:  have a lead on getting kdm  to come up iwht a login screen for both windows and linux boxes?  idea is to be able to login to the X session and if already logged in... to reconnect to the already loged in one
[02:24] <somsip> hanasaki: I don't see a question there, I don't use kdm, and don't run dual boot. So I can't help. But if you address the question to the channel, maybe someone else can
[02:25] <geekmasterflash> hanasaki, the only thing I am aware of towards what you are talking about is GFX Grub
[02:25] <hanasaki> I have xinitd.d/...   setup with server_args     = -inetd -query localhost -once -geometry 1600x1200 -depth 8 -nevershared -ac
[02:25] <hanasaki>    however right after login with vnc client the server closes the windows
[02:25] <geekmasterflash> Presuming you are saying you want the screen where you select your OS to be pretty
[02:26] <hanasaki> geekmasterflash:  idea is to use vnc to get to a kdm login screen over the network
[02:27] <config_> How do you configure rsyslog to create a particular log to be no more than a certain size (in GB), and once it reaches that limit, to compress that file and start a new log file?
[02:28] <davidrsmorris> Hi, I am getting a glib error in the in the man-db stage of installing python-minimal 2.7.5-5ubuntu3.  I am updating from 12.04 to 14.04.  How do I get a working system out of this?
[02:29] <OerHeks> config_, logrotation maybe? http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/log_rotation_fix_size.html
[02:29] <underplay> whats the error
[02:29] <linuxuz3r> its much better to reinstall
[02:30] <OerHeks> please linuxuz3r not again this trolling
[02:30] <geekmasterflash> OerHeks, I am not sure that constitutes trolling. Restalling usually is cleaner
[02:31] <underplay> if you see meo nthe internet, i got hte product, if you see me in your inbox, i got he product
[02:31] <underplay> badass song
[02:36] <config_> OerHeks: what if you wanted not just one backup log, but multiple ones for rotation?
[02:38] <OerHeks> config_, that howto shows you how to limit, in the actual logrotate script you can add compression if you want
[02:39] <cyberjunkie> yo
[02:39] <energizer> Hello, error from apt-get update. "GPG error: http://plex.r.worldssl.net lucid InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43525C28E533491A
[02:39] <energizer> ".
[02:40] <OerHeks> Lucid... that is old
[02:40] <energizer> I don't really understand all this key/signature stuff anyway. Is there a good resource for learning about that?
[02:40] <OerHeks> energizer, lucid is EOL
[02:40] <OerHeks> !eol
[02:41] <yc__> hi
[02:41] <energizer> OerHeks: i see.
[02:41] <kostkon> energizer, is it the desktop version?
[02:41] <baegle> I just upgraded to 14.04 (thinkpad x230). Resuming from suspend, I get the login window, but after logging in, the screen is completely black. I think the backlight is completely off. But my ttys work (after a second, presumably for the backlight to turn on). How can I toggle the backlight on my X session from a separate tty session?
[02:41] <OerHeks> energizer, you could try the oldversions trick, but maybe plex has removed stuff
[02:41] <energizer> kostkon: ya
[02:42] <OerHeks> i am wrong, uh, server *is* still supported .. so it is a plex issue
[02:43] <energizer> OerHeks: on https://plex.tv/downloads, the downloadable version is for "lucid or newer"
[02:43] <ahklerner> baegle: i had same issue on a toshiba i had to change power setting to suspend for both on ac and on battery
[02:43] <ahklerner> it is a known bug with light-locker
[02:43] <energizer> OerHeks: my os is 14.04
[02:43] <config_> OerHeks: Thanks, what if say, I wanted to fill up a 10GB log directory (ex. /var/log/mydirectory) with logs that have a maximum size of 1GB. That would mean I'd be able to constantly rotate 10 logs. Is it possible to do this?
[02:43] <kostkon> energizer, try re-adding the key for that repo
[02:43] <baegle> ahklerner: OK, I'll reboot and try that
[02:44] <ahklerner> baegle: it also has the side effect of not requiring a password
[02:44] <ahklerner> which is not good
[02:44] <OerHeks> energizer, then that line should be : GPG error: http://plex.r.worldssl.net trusty
[02:47] <energizer> OerHeks: i'd have thought so too..
[02:47] <codepython777> I've a /usr/local/bin/uwsgi -> dpkg -list shows uwsgi, but apt-get remove wont remove it. Any ideas how i can find out who installed this executable?
[02:48] <baegle> ahklerner: I'm not sure I understand which setting you have to change. There's a setting for when laptop lid is closed, but that's not what you mean, right?
[02:49] <kerriDoti> can anyone tell me the name of, or more to the point, what the shortcut is to hide/show the window. (((the fourth up arrow button next to the minimize, maximize, and close buttons?)))
[02:49] <ahklerner> yes that is the setting that helped my issue
[02:49] <ahklerner> but again it was a toshiba so it may be a slightly different issue
[02:49] <baegle> Hmm, but I have closing laptop lid = lock screen, not suspend
[02:50] <ahklerner> that is what mine was originally on too
[02:51] <Beldar> kerriDoti, Little more context would help, kinda hard to understand.
[02:51] <peterrooney> codepython777: dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/uwsgi
[02:51] <OerHeks> energizer, if it is just the keyring, actionparsnip wrote a solution #7  >  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/201666
[02:52] <codepython777> peterrooney: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/uwsgi
[02:52] <cynicallemon> Beldar: i think kerriDoti mean the roll up windows feature
[02:52] <kerriDoti> Beldar: see the top of your window. there is the close window, maximize, minmize, and another arrow button that rolls up or down the window. that is the one im interested in. :)
[02:53] <config_> OerHeks: Any idea how to rotate multiple logs?
[02:53] <Beldar> kerriDoti, Not on my desktop, you might give exacting info.
[02:53] <energizer> OerHeks: thanks, ill check it out.
[02:53] <peterrooney> codepython777: I just noticed - if it's in /usr/local it means it's installed from a local source, NOT from a repository.  Sorry.
[02:53] <OerHeks> config_, maybe a cashscripter can write such thing, i would tar it with date in the name, to avoid double files
[02:53] <peterrooney> codepython777: dpkg doesn't normally know about such things.
[02:53] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: try placing the mouse pointer on the window title bar and scroll with your mouse
[02:53] <codepython777> peterrooney: can i safely remove it?
[02:54] <OerHeks> err i would clean logs regularly too
[02:54] <delinquentme> is it typical that a set of matched RAM ... has 1 good stick and 1 bad ??
[02:54] <kerriDoti> Beldar: Yeah darn, perhaps it is only with xfce or xubuntu? And yes the scroll does it. Im interested in a keyboard shortcut to do the same thing.
[02:55] <OerHeks> config_, maybe this page is any help http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/logrotate-examples/
[02:55] <peterrooney> codepython777: depends.  Did you want the uwsgi service running on your machine?  From the looks of it, you installed it from source.
[02:55] <kerriDoti> Beldar: lol, its lots of fun to search for something like this when you dont know the name of it! :-)
[02:55] <delinquentme> I just purchased a matched set of PNY ram from best buy ... checked all the stats DDR3  PC3-12800
[02:56] <capruro> Hi
[02:56] <Beldar> delinquentme, If one is bad return it, hardly a support question.
[02:57] <kerriDoti> cynicallemon: Thank you that works. Looking for a keyboard shortcut to do the same thing.
[02:58] <kerriDoti> Wish i knew the name of it
[02:58] <pussygladiator> how do I have my terminal echo something everytime i open it up
[02:59] <pussygladiator> its gnome-terminal
[02:59] <guest66676667> Okay I have ubuntu 14.04.01 lts which i modified to lubuntu-desktop instead and added openbox which i have to configure so they dont eat eachother still.  I use wicd and after the recent upgrade network-manager is back and if i remove it it threatens to uninstall lubuntu-desktop.  how do i blacklist network-manager which does not work well for me and keep lubuntu-desktop?
[02:59] <delinquentme> Beldar, I guess im just surprised that they dont verify these things?
[03:00] <kerriDoti> Someone in xubuntu told me the name. It is shade. Now to find the keyboard shortcut!!! :-)
[03:00] <config_> OerHeks: Thanks, OerHeks. Btw, how do you know so much about these things?
[03:00] <davidrsmorris> 22: You forgot to call g_type_init() at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207 \n GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `result != 0' failed at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207.
[03:01] <OerHeks> config_, hangin in here, reading and learning for months, maybe years now :-)
[03:01] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: yeah shade or rollup/down
[03:02] <Beldar> delinquentme, Sure but this is support #ubuntu-offtopic is chat on such matters. ;)
[03:03] <guest66676667> hi
[03:04] <energizer> guest66676667: hi!
[03:04] <config_> OerHeks: I see
[03:05] <kerriDoti> Got it! Thank you for your help!!!
[03:05] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: and the answer is?
[03:06] <delinquentme> Beldar, thanks I took it to #electronics :D
[03:08] <Melar> How do i get rid of network-manager which causes me problems and keep lubuntu-desktop?
[03:16] <Beldar> Melar, Do you want net access?
[03:16] <cynicallemon> Melar: lubuntu-desktop should only be a meta package i think
[03:17] <cynicallemon> Beldar thats what /etc/network/interfaces is for
[03:17] <sydney> Melar: We need more details. Wats wrong? Can you explain better?
[03:18] <kerriDoti> cynicallemon: The answer is... its called shade. In the settings -> window manager-> keyboard shortcuts... I mad a hotkey to use. :-)
[03:18] <cynicallemon> kerriDoti: cool, i thought you would need a keybind of some sort
[03:18] <Beldar> Melar, The question just needs some back to it is all, like have you replaced it say with wicd and or sdome end goal.
[03:18] <Beldar> some*
[03:18] <kerriDoti> So instead of clicking the button. or using the mouse scroll wheel, i can use my keyboard shortcut! Yay!!! Effieciency!
[03:19] <kerriDoti> cynacallemon: I did, just did not know the name of it. ;-)
[03:21] <netlar> All of a sudden Pithos is not showing notifications anymore.  How can I fix that?
[03:21] <config_> OerHeks: So for this logrotate example you shared, basically you would feed in the rsyslog output (whatever it may be called, say my-log-file-of-interest.log) into /etc/logrotate.conf?
[03:22] <netlar> I was getting the notification pop up, now it just stopped, I already rebooted too
[03:23] <Beldar> netlar, This the unity desktop and are any other notifications missing?
[03:24] <netlar> Beldar: this is Unity, and the other notifications do appear
[03:25] <Beldar> netlar, Might be the pithos config is there a pithos in ~/.config
[03:25] <netlar> I just reinstalled Pithos too, that did not fix it
[03:25] <Melar> Beldar: i apologize for that i am unfamiliar with the paste bin service and was unsure about how to proceed.
[03:26] <netlar> Beldar: I do not see a Pithos folder in the ~/.config folder
[03:26] <Beldar> Melar, You can answer questions here, we just want more info is all.
[03:27] <netlar> Beldar: I do see a ini file
[03:27] <twoofthree> hello. Is ubuntu capable of reading exfat usb flash drive out of the box?
[03:27] <netlar> Beldar: In that file notify=True is there
[03:27] <Melar> let me figure out the paste bin for ubuntu
[03:28] <somsip> !paste | Melar
[03:29] <netlar> Beldar: Is it something wrong with Pithos and sending info over internet?
[03:29] <netlar> Beldar: What more info would you like?
[03:30] <Melar> pretty good expunge, network-manager is causing me problems now when i try to uninstall it trying to get up to speed so i can paste the apt-get output to the patse bin
[03:31] <Beldar> netlar, I'm just guessing on a config issue, if you reinstalled you would had to have run a purge to get the config out, or just figure where it's at.
[03:31] <Melar> !paste | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8220334/
[03:32] <Beldar> Melar, The network manager is your gui to the net you know this right?
[03:33] <Melar> i use wicd
[03:33] <netlar> Beldar: Well I just ran the purge and then reinstalled, same issue
[03:33] <Beldar> Melar, That was the point of my first question.
[03:33] <Melar> yes
[03:34] <Beldar> Melar, I would just disable it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[03:34] <Melar> thank you!
[03:34] <netlar> Sorry to bother you guys with such a minor thing
[03:35] <Beldar> netlar, No problem it is a ubuntu package having it work correctly is no bother.
[03:35] <Tyrandis> Hey guys whats up, first time using this program and using ubuntu :D
[03:36] <netlar> Beldar: I was not doing anything to the system, just on a web browser then started Pithos and noticed the pop ups were not happening anymore
[03:37] <Beldar> netlar, see if 'python-appindicator' is installed
[03:37] <netlar> yep, checked that too
[03:37] <netlar> Even reinstalled it
[03:39] <Melar> thank you again, i appriciate this a lot.
[03:39] <Beldar> netlar, Hmm, this 14.04? I see a bug the python-appindicator was it's answer with a quick cursory that is all I see as a fix.
[03:40] <netlar> Beldar: One other thing too, when I start Pithos the pause button on the player is not showing, the one off to the left
[03:40] <Beldar> netlar, unity and compiz have a reset option I would try that, be sure you find the one for your ubuntu release is all.
[03:41] <netlar> Beldar: So rebooting does not reset compiz?
[03:41] <Beldar> netlar, I would check it in the guest account as well.
[03:41] <netlar> oh yes, let me check that
[03:41] <Beldar> netlar, No compiz stays as is per boot
[03:43] <netlar> Beldar: The guest account is not showing the notification
[03:43] <Beldar> netlar, Hmm, this from the ubuntu repo or the ppa?
[03:43] <netlar> Beldar: I do have NotifiyOSD installed, maybe that is giving me problems
[03:43] <Beldar> netlar, I ask as if it were me I would try either.
[03:43] <netlar> Beldar: Ubuntu Repo
[03:44] <Beldar> netlar, I would check the ppa, might just be the same release is all.
[03:44] <netlar> Beldar: Just curious how all of a sudden, it does not work, when it worked just 5 min before
[03:46] <Beldar> netlar, No idea, to many outliers to even guess. the ppa has 3.18.4 the repos is 3.17 generally Idon't advise a ppa but seems harmless try here, you just want to know the ppa-purge process is all.
[03:48] <Beldar> netlar, the deprecated ppa refres to this ppa if your so inclined. https://launchpad.net/~pithos/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[03:48] <Beldar> refers*
[03:48] <netlar> Beldar: So do not install .3.18?
[03:50] <Basketball> Beldar,  are you good with bash scripts
[03:51] <Beldar> netlar, If it were me I would try it, but I know how to use ppa's and remove them with ppa-purge. Here is the ppa development page might be worth asking them. https://launchpad.net/~pithos
[03:51] <netlar> Beldar: I have removed pps befoe
[03:51] <netlar> ppa
[03:52] <netlar> Beldar: I probably have too many ppa's already
[03:53] <Beldar> netlar, With the gui being strange and no popup something is amiss, could be any number of issues really not an easy search for me I only have limited skills.
[03:54] <netlar> Beldar: I do appriciate the help
[03:54] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[03:54] <HikaruBG> I have a windows computer in my home network (in HOMEGROUP) with shared folders which I can't see from Ubuntu
[03:55] <HikaruBG> how to change my workgroup to Homegroup so I can see this folder?
[04:02] <netlar> Beldar: Well things have just esculated, now I cannot access the sound settings from the top panel
[04:02] <Beldar> netlar, This 14.04?
[04:02] <netlar> Yes, 14.04
[04:04] <Beldar> netlar, I would do a reset and than reboot, I have not used unity in a while but we see resets needed here on occasion. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[04:04] <agriyudhizt> anyone help me.... I cant update my backtrack .
[04:04] <somsip> !backtrack | agriyudhizt
[04:04] <Beldar> agriyudhizt, backtrack has been eol for a long time and not supported here.
[04:05] <netlar> Beldar: I am going to remove pithos and its ppa first
[04:05] <Beldar> netlar, use ppa-purge on the ppa
[04:06] <rolleiflex> hey, I'm packaging my app for ubuntu
[04:06] <rolleiflex> where does these binaries go?
[04:06] <rolleiflex> \/bin/?
[04:06] <somsip> !packaging | rolleiflex
[04:06] <netlar> Beldar: I used the sudo add-apt-repository --remove instead
[04:06] <rolleiflex> every time I come here somebody does this, this doesn't help
[04:06] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | netlar best use on ppa's
[04:07] <HikaruBG> hey guys
[04:07] <rolleiflex> that packaging link is geared towards fixing bugs in ubuntu, I'm trying to package my app
[04:07] <Beldar> netlar, having packages from a ppa can really mess stuff up, we see this on peoples release upgrades daily.
[04:07] <HikaruBG> I have a shared folder on Windows 7 machine. I can't see it from my Ubuntu
[04:07] <HikaruBG> why?
[04:07] <Beldar> and just general updates/upgrades
[04:07]  * ObrienDave now has pithos 1.0.0 from ppa
[04:08] <Beldar> is it purdy ObrienDave
[04:08] <ObrienDave> looks pretty much the same
[04:09] <somsip> rolleiflex: this link from there seems to tell you how to roll your own packages, and has links to reference manuals. Feel free to ask here, but you might be waiting for a while for a packaging expert which is maybe why you see the factoid when you ask http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[04:09] <netlar> ok, Beldar that fixed the sound settings
[04:10] <Beldar> netlar, one down one to go. ;)
[04:10] <rolleiflex> somsip: I see. the question I have is not about packaging, but about where does binaries go in general in ubuntu
[04:10] <rolleiflex> where do apps save their 'meat'
[04:10] <agriyudhizt> okeyy thnksss...
[04:10] <agriyudhizt> mm. how to update winhq???
[04:10] <HikaruBG> anyone on the network issue?
[04:10] <HikaruBG> sharing from Windows7 to Ubuntu
[04:10] <HikaruBG> ???
[04:10] <rolleiflex> I'm going to go put things in /bin/ but I'm pretty sure half the world will complain about that
[04:11] <netlar> I just reinstalled Pithos from the repo, still does not show notifications
[04:11] <HikaruBG> guys?
[04:11] <Beldar> agriyudhizt, kali is its hier, find them and use it.
[04:11] <somsip> rolleiflex: that sounds like a packaging issue if you are looking at distributing your own app. I'm not expert <shugs>
[04:11] <Beldar> heir*
[04:11] <ObrienDave> netlar, is show notifications checked?
[04:12] <netlar> ObrienDave: Yes
[04:12] <rolleiflex> somsip: oh well, if it's wrong, people will complain and I'll tell they should've answered my irc request. : P
[04:12] <SchrodingersScat> rolleiflex: you monster
[04:13] <rolleiflex> SchrodingersScat: represent
[04:13] <netlar> ObrienDave: I unchecked it and checked it, now it works
[04:13] <somsip> rolleiflex: then maybe this is of help, though I don't know if ubuntu follows its own variant to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[04:13] <rolleiflex> somsip: yeah, that's the general structure I think. nobody ever follows that exactly though
[04:14] <netlar> But now I worried, I am making my system unstable
[04:14] <Beldar> netlar, Heh, sometimes it is the easiest choice, a app written kinda loose is my guess.
[04:15] <netlar> Beldar: Is there anything I can do to check the health of my system?
[04:16] <Beldar> netlar, messing with this app should not make anything but it unstable, seems it may be already but not in any whole OS effect. O doubt your setup is unstable, best insurance is being backed up off the HD.
[04:16] <Beldar> O=I*
[04:17] <HikaruBG> !samba
[04:17] <netlar> Beldar: I do have several apps I installed through ppa's
[04:18] <netlar> How do you correctly purge ppa's again?
[04:18] <Beldar> netlar, Me to, depends on the apps and their dependencies.
[04:18] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | netlar
[04:19] <Beldar> I have ppa's from releases outside the one I use muhaha
[04:20] <netlar> Think I got carried away, found some great stuff not in the repo
[04:21] <cynicallemon> rolleiflex: the BSD's follow the traditional files structure
[04:21] <Beldar> netlar, It happens, just part of the learning curve if you have issues and can empirically link them.
[04:22] <netlar> Link them?
[04:22] <config_> OerHeks: Do you know how to use logrotate so that it creates as many log.1,2,3,45,6,7,8,9,..., each of fixed size, so that in sum total they are under a total fixed size (example: 10MB or 10GB).
[04:22] <config_> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/logrotate-examples/
[04:22] <config_> Does anyone?
[04:23] <netlar> Beldar: So compiz gets corrupted sometimes?
[04:23] <Beldar> netlar, For example you do a update/upgrade or a distro upgrade and see errors and they are due to a package or packages from a ppa.
[04:24] <netlar> Beldar: never noticed any yet
[04:24] <somsip> config_: I would expect by limiting the size of each logfile, and the total number of logfiles. Eg rotate 10 and size=1M would limit the size to 10M.
[04:25] <netlar> Beldar: Well shoot, Pithos not showing the pop ups anymore
[04:25] <netlar> Beldar: Man this is crazy, now it is back
[04:25] <Beldar> netlar, to loose a question for me, to broad, any thing can become corrupted at any time would be the best answer I think of. I reason through the scientific method, critical thinking, the only time this differs is in qualitative research rather than quantitative
[04:26] <Beldar> on a good day anyway. ;)
[04:27] <netlar> Beldar: I am learning quickly that Linux/Ubuntu is not going to be a mystery, like Windows
[04:27] <netlar> Windows can be such a black box
[04:28] <Beldar> netlar, Depends on how far you get, but I find it fairly easy to work with. I started with open source though and follow some rules that keep it simple.
[04:28] <config_> somsip: But I would like to compress all the log files except for the one that is currently being written to (the main, most recent one).
[04:28] <config_> ?
[04:29] <Beldar> netlar, I'm an armchair user however not an IT person so backups and clones fix all my problems if I hit a brick wall.
[04:29] <somsip> config_: so you want the compressed size to be the limit?
[04:29] <config_> yes
[04:29] <config_> somsip: yes.
[04:29] <netlar> Beldar: I need to start doing that, soon
[04:30] <netlar> Beldar: Only installed this last week
[04:31] <_> hello
[04:31] <Beldar> netlar, Takes awhile I have been using ubuntu since 2007 when I returned to college and needed a computer, just happened to get open source is all. ny way this is all offtopic, you will do fine I suspect.
[04:31] <Beldar> Any*
[04:31] <somsip> config_: I'd suggest looking at a postrotate script to delete compressed files that take the total size of (compressed files + current log max size) > total size you want
[04:32] <netlar> Well thanks, take care Beldar
[04:32] <Beldar> you to
[04:33] <treats> I'm getting a red alert in top bar. "Update information out of date"  I've recently updated, and I have good clean access to internet.  Shoudl I be concerned??
[04:33] <Beldar> treats, What release and have you run a update today?
[04:34] <treats> 14.04 lts -- just restarted a couple hours ago
[04:34] <treats> after a update
[04:34] <Beldar> treats, what desktop?
[04:34] <config_> somsip: well, I actually need the logs to be deleted in order - the log that gets deleted should be the one that's been around the longest.
[04:34] <treats> how do I know?
[04:34] <linuxlid> how to upgrade to gevent 1.1 ?
[04:34] <config_> somsip: and do you recommend any specific utilitie(s) for compressing the logs?
[04:34] <somsip> config_: I understand. So write a postrotate script to do that.
[04:35] <Beldar> treats, No Karnack cap?
[04:35] <config_> somsip: okay.
[04:35] <somsip> config_: let logrorate compress them, surely?
[04:35] <treats> not that I know of Beldar
[04:36] <ObrienDave> *zoom*
[04:36] <Beldar> treats, A notification if all is well means a security update in gneral.
[04:36] <config_> somsip: they're using an existing utility for that, right?
[04:36] <somsip> config_: you are capable of looking that up
[04:36] <config_> somsip: Okay, thanks.
[04:37] <Beldar> treats, updates are released daily and at any time in ubuntu.
[04:37] <Beldar> or can be anyway
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> for those who want, firefox installed new faster update: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/firefox-32-released-whats-new
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> hmm still showing 31
[04:40] <rww> lotuspsychje: aiui, that data's updated by a cronjob periodically
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> rww: ah ok tnx
[04:40] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, 24hrs to long for you?
[04:40]  * ObrienDave has firefox 32
[04:40] <somsip> lotuspsychje: launchpad show 32. Let it propogate maybe...
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> rww: just updated :p
[04:43] <jayvi> what does this mean? "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory..."
[04:43] <jayvi> it happens every time i try to apt-get update
[04:44] <Beldar> treats, Do you have a panel on the left of the screen?
[04:45] <treats> Beldar: yes
[04:45] <hakermania> !time
[04:45] <a_random_person> The time here is 2014-09-03 07:45
[04:46] <Beldar> treats, Cool, that is the ubuntu desktop called unity, just info.
[04:46] <hakermania> !whoami
[04:46] <a_random_person> That's easy. You're hakermania. You thought I wouldn't know?
[04:47] <user123321> Please help, my machine again crashed at 10.10 display time with no response, recovered with ctrl+alt+prtsc+R+I+U+S+B. Kernel log around that time: http://pastebin.com/dkS92jui
[04:48] <agriyudhizt> I've hdd bad sector after install gnome in kali..
[04:48] <jayvi> can someone tell me plz what this means? it tells me to use apt-get update when im done but it only appears after i aprt-get update
[04:48] <user123321> Are there other types of logs I could check?
[04:48] <jayvi> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[04:48] <Beldar> user123321, Looks like swapping
[04:48] <rww> !whoami
[04:48] <a_random_person> That's easy. You're rww. You thought I wouldn't know?
[04:48] <rww> sigh.
[04:48] <user123321> Beldar, Because of this line? "Corrupted low memory at ffff880000006598 (6598 phys) =<PHONE_NUMBER>00"
[04:48] <Guest18616> could be hrd disk error
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> !kali | agriyudhizt
[04:49] <a_random_person> Hm? I don't know this command... yet. So, better take this fortune:
[04:49] <a_random_person> You two ought to be more careful--your love could drag on for years and years.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> rww: seems like you have a new shadow bot :p
[04:49] <ObrienDave> what, a random response bot? lol
[04:49] <Beldar> user123321, Just a guess here.
[04:50] <rww> lotuspsychje: Yep, already asked the user to remove it :)
[04:50] <user123321> Beldar, I see.
[04:51] <herpderphurr> Hi all. whenever I try to enter keywords for images in Geeqie, it enters only 1 letter per keyword (as if a newline is inserted between each keypress). It also prevents me from entering a letter twice until I hit a bunch of other letters first. Writing the keywords into a text file and then copy-pasting it into the keyword section on Geeqie works, though.
[04:51] <Beldar> user123321, swapping does feel like a crash however, could be a failing memory, I would set the swappiness to 10 if this is the issue.
[04:51] <user123321> Beldar, shall I try disabling swap?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can take spaces out of a txt file automaticly?
[04:52] <Beldar> user123321, When this happened did you have a lot of stuff running?
[04:52] <jayvi> so for real 1500 people and nobody can just type a one sentence response -_-
[04:52] <SirLagz> lotuspsychje: you could use something like sed to do that.
[04:52] <jayvi> to what this is no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> SirLagz: tnx mate
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !patience | jayvi
[04:53] <user123321> Beldar, I was using Firefox.
[04:53] <Beldar> jayvi, Some random error with no real details and your complaining?
[04:53] <rww> jayvi: second result in google for that error message: http://askubuntu.com/questions/465004/warning-message-at-command-line-sudo
[04:53] <jayvi> not complaining never used linux comes up every time 3 days with no answer
[04:54] <jayvi> thx yall
[04:54] <rww> I assume you're doing sudo apt-get etc., and it's the sudo bit causing it, not apt-get
[04:54] <Beldar> !swap | user123321 look at swappiness
[04:55] <Beldar> user123321, Maybe run a memory check.
[04:55] <user123321> Beldar, You mean a RAM check? Should I have run it when the crash happened or would it have any effect now?
[04:58] <user123321> Beldar, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1350836
[04:58] <user123321> ^this guys has DV6 too :O
[04:58] <user123321> guy*
[05:00] <Beldar> user123321, I see a number of issues on this exact error, I saw that one while looking, not really something I can suggest beyond what I have which is a low level start.
[05:00] <herpderphurr> Hi everyone. I'm looking to post my question on the forums to help give it some time for people to take a look at. Where would a good board be for asking questions about Geeqie, the image and photo viewing/tagging application?
[05:01] <Beldar> herpderphurr, Appears to have a dbg package
[05:02] <Beldar> ubuntu forums is the biggest forum
[05:03] <herpderphurr> Beldar: Would it be good to post it to "New to Ubuntu" or "Multimedia"? I would have guessed Multimedia, but it seems multi's more about video and audio rather than images.
[05:03] <user123321> Beldar, Should this be error independent of the Ubuntu flavour? Because I'm running LUbuntu now, should there be any reason to change to Ubuntu?
[05:04] <Beldar> herpderphurr, I would post it in the general, if the mods think otherwise they will move it.
[05:04] <herpderphurr> Beldar: All right. thanks!
[05:05] <Beldar> user123321, No idea really, I would start with setting the swappiness lower and checking the ram if it were me.
[05:05] <Beldar> could be a graphic issue as suggested, no idea really
[05:06] <user123321> Cool, ok. Do you see any harm disabling swap entirely? (other than low mem :p)
[05:07] <Beldar> user123321, No harm, but you can check if swapping, I have a conky that shows it. I would want more exacting info.
[05:07] <Loshki> user123321: Is it this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557604
[05:11] <user123321> Beldar, Cool
[05:11] <jak2000> this permission: -rw-r--r-- is: 644 ? right?
[05:11] <user123321> Loshki, My kernal log: http://pastebin.com/dkS92jui
[05:11] <Ben64> jak2000: figure it out using binary 421 421 421
[05:12] <Loshki> user123321: saw it, noticed the low memory corruption msg. That thread says it's a kernel bug. Did I get it wrong?
[05:12] <Beldar> user123321, best thing I ever did in a hardware sense was get a SSD however swapping is not even noticed, makes the 5 year old toshiba laptop run like a champ.
[05:12] <Loshki> Beldar: because it's so fast?
[05:13] <Beldar> Loshki, A bit faster but does not get sowed down like a spinning HD is all in specific circumstances.
[05:13] <Beldar> slowed*
[05:13] <jak2000> Ben64 thanks
[05:15] <Beldar> Loshki, More uniformity really.
[05:15] <Loshki> Beldar: interesting, might try it on an old dell laptop which gets bogged down easily...
[05:16] <user123321> How about using sysrq to dump task info and stack traces when a crash happens? Hmm I'd have to learn the key combinations from https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt
[05:16] <Loshki> user123321: in case it's a kernel bug, try a different kernel version first....
[05:17] <user123321> an older version? hmm.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> can i disable these startup deamons safely: speech-dispatcher,kerneloops,rsync,ppd-dns,dns-clean?
[05:23] <nationalsecurity> hello
[05:23] <expunge> hi nat
[05:23] <nationalsecurity> hw was ur sleep
[05:23] <expunge> lotuspsychje: I don't know them, but the only ones that really make me wonder are the dns ones
[05:23] <expunge> nationalsecurity: yet to be had =)
[05:23] <expunge> yours?
[05:23] <cooln> hello
[05:24] <nationalsecurity> you now going to hv ur rest
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> expunge: im just trying to speed up boot time, by disabling unwanted deamons
[05:24] <nationalsecurity> what is the timethere  now
[05:24] <expunge> lotuspsychje: best way to speedup boot time is by not rebooting
[05:24] <cooln> 13:24
[05:24] <expunge> nationalsecurity: 'bout 2230
[05:24] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: kerneloops may be useful to keep running, the other ones are fine to disable if you don't use text-to-speech, rsync or ppp
[05:25] <nationalsecurity> ok
[05:25] <expunge> I was going to stay up tonight, having little second thoughts, though =P
[05:25] <cooln> and you???
[05:25] <nationalsecurity> is 5.30amhere in GHANA
[05:25] <expunge> mmm, ghana
[05:25] <expunge> gj in the world cup
[05:25] <nationalsecurity> YEAH
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: tnx mate
[05:25] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: also, get an ssd. Boot time is amazing on those. My laptop boots in less than 30 seconds, including typing my password twice (encrypted harddrive and login)
[05:26] <nationalsecurity> YES
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: i already got a samsung evo on trusty 64bit, all tweaked up :p
[05:30] <pam> I'm looking for a BASIC text editor...that is native to Ubuntu..that is similar to wordpad.  It has to allow me to open multiple instances at once...and not be extremely boated...Open Office won't work...
[05:30] <expunge> pam: gedit
[05:31] <expunge> openoffice (libreoffice now) being an office suite and not an editor =)
[05:31] <pam> expunge:  whoops..meant to say it needs to have formatting (bold, underline, etc)
[05:32] <pam> I'm looking for a BASIC text editor...that has formatting (bold, underline, italics, etc)...that is native to Ubuntu..that is similar to wordpad.  It has to allow me to open multiple instances at once...and not be extremely boated...Open Office won't work...
[05:33] <expunge> pam: oh a word processor
[05:33] <expunge> pam: abiword
[05:38] <Beldar> pam, The not bloated argument is has no real definition, it is a over used term.
[05:39] <pam> beldar: tl;dr
[05:39] <expunge> oh I can define it
[05:39] <expunge> you just diff the file space used by libreoffice vs that used by abiword
[05:39] <expunge> and that's bloat =) for a word processor
[05:40] <Beldar> lol, it is a noob term at best
[05:41] <expunge> it's an old word, predates newb
[05:41] <necro606_> I am trying to install a run file, but the installer stopped at 100%. what did I do wrong or what did I miss.
[05:41] <expunge> necro606_: I'd have to say, running a .run file at all
[05:42] <pam> haha..j/k by not bloated I meant something that was as small as wordpad
[05:42] <Beldar> expunge, Such an erudite argument like all yours are. ;)
[05:42] <expunge> so true
[05:43] <Beldar> sigh tweenies
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: this was very usefull http://askubuntu.com/questions/310337/which-startup-applications-can-i-safely-disable
[05:45] <necro606_> Ok, the Installer just froze up on me and it finished just fine. sry about that. Next time i will be a bit more patient..
[05:51] <kernix> hey all
[05:51] <pam> thanks all...night
[05:56] <djdr1988> I am a new linux user, and I am having an issue with install. I am running and istalling from USB. Installation says it completes successfully, however when i restart the computer, I get "error: attempt to read or writ outside of disk "hd0" entering rescue mode. It runs just fine from usb, how can I get the installed boot to run?
[05:57] <expunge> djdr1988: you dual booting?
[05:57] <Corvette> How do you enter special characters in ubuntu?
[05:58] <Corvette> Like if you want to speak in italian?
[05:58] <djdr1988> no. I was unable to get windows to reinstall on this laptop, it kept freezing, so i decided to do a single boot of only ubuntu
[05:58] <expunge> Corvette: switch your keyboard layout if you want to do it a lot
[05:59] <Seveas> Corvette: I use alt as a compose key so accented characters are, for instance, <alt> ~ n  -> ñ
[06:00] <expunge> the us international layout would get you that
[06:00] <Corvette> So to do that I have to switch to us international layout
[06:00] <Corvette> because when i do that now it brings up alt tab
[06:02] <[L]ight> djdr1998: It's a BIOS limit error.
[06:03] <djdr1988> [L]ight: is there a fix for it?
[06:03] <[L]ight> djdr1998: Try performing manual partitioning at installation menu.
[06:04] <[L]ight> djdr1998: for /, the root partition, allocate 10 to 15GB. 1 to 2 GB for swap.
[06:05] <djdr1988> [L]ight: ok. is there anything else i should be aware of during istallation?
[06:05] <[L]ight> djdr1998: for /home partition, try using between 10 to 10^6 GB.
[06:06] <djdr1988> [L]ight: I have to make multiple partitions?
[06:06] <[L]ight> djdr1998: My guess is your BIOS is old.
[06:07] <[L]ight> djdr1998: You could leave out swap, though it doesn't hurt to have it.
[06:07] <djdr1988> [L]ight: it is an older laptop. It was running windows, but after windows crashed it wouldnt let me reinstall it, I changed HDD and it still wouldnt work
[06:09] <djdr1988> [L]ight: thank you for the advice. I will try that.
[06:11] <[L]ight> djdr1998: If you're not familiar with manual partitioning, please read up on it first.
[06:12] <saleem> i get a black screen on ubuntu precise livecd , tried many cheatcodes but i get no display , i have nvidia geforece gt 540 card , whats the fix to go to desktop ?
[06:12] <[L]ight> saleem: define blackscreen.
[06:13] <saleem> black screen as black screen nothing but a black screen no display , i searched on google this had been reprted by many already but there is no apparent fix
[06:14] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset | saleem
[06:15] <[L]ight> saleem
[06:15] <saleem> ObrienDave, i tried nomodeset modeset=0 and nouveau.modeset=0 cheats already but that black screen comes back
[06:15] <djdr1988> [L]ight: I am having problems with the partition utility. I dont fully understand how it works. I setup two seperate partitions, and it keeps saying root partition not defined. I am unable to figure out how to make one the root partition
[06:16] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, make the smaller one mount as /
[06:16] <ObrienDave> add a boot flag also
[06:17] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: Now it says that it cant mount to fat32. What type should i mount it as?
[06:17] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, make the larger one mount as /home
[06:17] <ObrienDave> ext4
[06:18] <[L]ight> djdr1998: ext4
[06:18] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: ok. should I mount both partitions as ext4?
[06:18] <ObrienDave> yes
[06:23] <djdr1988> ObrienDavis: I still have around 292 GB available on the HDD. do i need to partition that or will it be available for use in ubuntu without partioin it?
[06:27] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, add that to your /home partition
[06:27] <[L]ight> djdr1998: otherwise it'll be free space.
[06:28] <djdr1988> ok. so I didnt see a /swap so I didnt partition that, so I have a / partition and a /home partition. Is that all I need?
[06:29] <ObrienDave> unallocated space is not usable by any OS afaik
[06:29] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, yup, that should do
[06:29] <djdr1988> and it says boot loader is /dev/sdb is that correct?
[06:30] <djdr1988> there is no space allocated to that
[06:30] <[L]ight> ObrienDave: he needs a boot partition doesn't he?
[06:30] <ObrienDave> ummm, how many drives in your system?
[06:30] <djdr1988> just the one
[06:31] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, are you running from USB stick now?
[06:31] <djdr1988> yes I m
[06:31] <djdr1988> am
[06:31] <ObrienDave> [L]ight, / will be the boot partition
[06:32] <[L]ight> I c.
[06:32] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, did you flag / as boot?
[06:32] <djdr1988> I havent, I will change that real quick
[06:33] <bubbasaures> Usb's and hd's get reversed check it to be sure.
[06:33] <djdr1988> now it is suggesting a /swap, but I didnt see that option in the drop box. How do I set that up?
[06:34] <Patman> I had 30 people try a Ubuntu live CD. They all complained any said it was impossible to use
[06:34] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, how much RAM do you have?
[06:34] <djdr1988> 1GB
[06:34] <[L]ight> djdr1998: set swap as twice of RAM.
[06:34] <[L]ight> djdr1998: 2048MB.
[06:35] <ObrienDave> make /swap at least = to or larger at the END of the drive
[06:35] <ObrienDave> *than RAM
[06:35] <bubbasaures> Partman, and this means what in a support channel?
[06:35] <[L]ight> djdr1998: Swap will be used as extra ram in case RAM runs out of memory.
[06:35] <bubbasaures> Err Patman
[06:36] <ObrienDave> Patman, i have always had better luck using Live DVD than USB stick. don't know what to tell you
[06:36] <djdr1988> Ok. That makes sense, but /swap is not listed in the "mount to" box. Where would I find it?
[06:36] <ObrienDave> you format /swap as swap
[06:37] <Patman> It was the ubuntu interface they couldn't work out.
[06:37] <ObrienDave> Patman, same as all the other Ubuntus
[06:37] <Barneyy> Hi guys, I have a Windows 8 on Computer A and Windows 8 on Computer B, I want to install ubuntu 14.04 to Computer B, but USB boot and CD/DVD Boot not work. I want to try Network booting, Computer A and B are in same Local network. Do you have any idea ?
[06:38] <Barneyy> Simply I want to install Ubuntu from a Windows Network. Is is possible ?
[06:38] <Patman> i guess yea unity seems like xfce with less features
[06:38] <Patman> just kidding xfce is a bit easier to use
[06:38] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: I found it, I thought it was a "mount to" . Thank you for your help. Thank you [L]ight as well.
[06:38] <bubbasaures> yeah right
[06:39] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, good luck, let us know how it went for you
[06:39] <bubbasaures> Patman chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: Thanks, I will after this installation attempt
[06:39]  * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu ;P
[06:40] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, we'll be here
[06:40]  * [L]ight runs Arch
[06:40]  * jnhghy runs.
[06:41] <ObrienDave> jnhghy, you do and you'll clean it up ;P
[06:41] <bubbasaures> Barneyy, W8 with uefi is a bit different install wise, I would not try a network install, and check tue disk and usb.
[06:42] <Redtherm> Hello. Q: Has anyone managed to circumvent the relatively well-known issue of NVidia drivers and 14.04? I have tried a large multitude of the AskUbuntu-proposed solutions without any luck.
[06:42] <ikonia> Redtherm: what well known issue ?
[06:43] <Ben64> i was about to ask the same thing
[06:43] <ObrienDave> you both beat me to it ;P
[06:43] <Redtherm> That a lot of people, myself included, haven't been able to install Nvidia drivers.
[06:43] <Ariel_Winter> so, I posted an issue that I have on r/linux4noobs but wanted to know if anyone here can help me with this http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/2fc3p0/setting_up_ubuntu_server_with_2_hdd_using_ntfs_as/
[06:43] <Ben64> Redtherm: can you get more specific
[06:44] <ikonia> Redtherm: thats certainly not a known problem
[06:44] <ikonia> Redtherm: why don't you explain your problem
[06:44] <[L]ight> Redtherm: Kindly define "problem".
[06:44] <RoBo_V> Guys started out as primary OS linux, ditching windows (or for gaming only)  (Inspired when worked with debian CLI on raspberry pi - felt much power)   so  ubuntu is good to start with?
[06:44] <ObrienDave> Redtherm, and your system, briefly
[06:44] <RoBo_V> starting*
[06:44] <Redtherm> I'll try. One moment.
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: it is a good and proven linux distribution
[06:45] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Yes. Or Mint. Just avoid Debian.
[06:45] <ikonia> there is nothing wrong with debian
[06:45] <d4rk_f0rc3> indeed
[06:45] <[L]ight> ikonia: Not user friendly.
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: try some distros from livecd's to get an idea of what you like,
[06:45] <RoBo_V> but ubuntu is debian, is in it ?
[06:45] <Guest7966> So does anybody have any bitcoin mning interface ideas for ubuntu 13.10?
[06:45] <ikonia> [L]ight: yes it is
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: no
[06:45] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Based on.
[06:45] <ikonia> RoBo_V: try a few distros see what you like/do'nt like then pick the one that works best for you
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: don't rush in and try to make the first one "the one" you use, try a few
[06:46] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Nope, Debian is definitely not recommended for new users.
[06:46] <Redtherm> Intel Celeron J1900, 2GHz, Quad-Core, 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz (max 8GB), NVIDIA GeForce 820M 512MB
[06:46] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, Ubuntu is an excellent OS based on Debian. a lot of new users like it very much
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: [L]ight is talking nonsense, debian is fine for new users
[06:46] <Guest7966> I'm just trying to find out if anybody has heard about non-openCL mining for ubuntu
[06:46] <Ben64> debian can work fine for new users, as can ubuntu, or mint, or just about anything else. use what you like, we can't make the choice for you
[06:46] <greeter> i'm an experienced user and i've had the best experiences with using ubuntu. but you should check out several, get a feel for what you like best
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: do some research, pick a few and give them a spin
[06:46] <ikonia> RoBo_V: if you need help with ubuntu, come to this channel and ask
[06:47] <RoBo_V> I see, well im not very new to linux. But yes little above beginner.
[06:47] <Redtherm> I've installed a fresh 14.04 ubuntu, but the intel chip is running the graphics, I gather. I attempted to get the NVidia drivers, older, newer, curren and anything in between with several types of installations, but none of them work, at all.
[06:47] <Guest7966> is there a channel for bitcoin miners?
[06:47] <ikonia> Redtherm: why are you getting nvidiia drivers if you are using an intel chip ?
[06:47] <greeter> get some live cds of a few distros, or perhaps set up vm's for them if what you want doesn't have a live cd
[06:47] <ikonia> Guest7966: nothing to do with this channel,
[06:47] <[L]ight> ikonia: Depends on how you perceive it.
[06:48] <ikonia> [L]ight: what ?
[06:48] <Guest7966> sorry man, I'm totally new to ubuntu  just trying to learn
[06:48] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Might wanna avoid Arch and Gentoo.
[06:48] <RoBo_V> Guest7966: #bitcoin-mining
[06:48] <Redtherm> My graphics card is NVidia, and I think the processor has some sort of a backup chip in it, which is rather useless.
[06:48] <Guest7966> tahnks Robo_V
[06:48] <djdr1988> is ubuntu the easiest one to use on a general basis?
[06:48] <ikonia> Redtherm: so this is an optimus card ?
[06:48] <Guest7966> thanks*
[06:48] <ikonia> djdr1988: no more/less
[06:48] <Valarkin_> Good morning. I could really use some help getting a 14.04 server install configged properly for the web
[06:48] <[L]ight> djdr1998: One of the easiest. Mint too.
[06:49] <djdr1988> ok. I am new to linux in general, everyone talks about it being better than windows, and windows failed me again, so gifured I would give it a try
[06:50] <Valarkin_> Linux will be better than Windows when you can do a defaulyt install without a degree in Linux ;)
[06:50] <Redtherm> I'm not exactly sure. My computer isn't a notebook, it's a izarro box.
[06:50] <Redtherm> *bizarro
[06:50] <Patman> djdr1988: try linuxmint or pclinuxos. Ubuntus a headache
[06:50] <RoBo_V> I see guys ikonia [L]ight ,  I think i will go with ubuntu or from mint
[06:50] <[L]ight> Patman: Troll.
[06:50] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, better, best, etc, are subjective to your likes/dislikes and experiences with other OSes
[06:50] <ikonia> Redtherm: I don't know what a bizarro box is
[06:50] <RoBo_V> both "apt-get" right ?
[06:51] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Both uses apt package manager.
[06:51] <Ben64> RoBo_V: just a tip, if you like this support channel, don't pick mint
[06:51] <Redtherm> I simply mean it's a rather weird computer.
[06:51] <ikonia> Redtherm: what's weird about it ?
[06:51] <RoBo_V> Ben64: well im kinda liking this support you guys giving
[06:51] <RoBo_V> thank you all
[06:52] <djdr1988> ObrienDave: yeah, I understand that, so far I really like having this channel available for help. This is also my first time on anything IRC
[06:52] <RoBo_V> I have GTX 660 ti, no problem finding drivers for it on Ubuntu ?
[06:52] <ikonia> RoBo_V: should be well suppported
[06:52] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, if you like the support, use *buntu flavors
[06:52] <RoBo_V> ObrienDave: what is that ?
[06:52] <Valarkin_> could someone help me through troubleshooting my web server?
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: ask a question then
[06:53] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Derivatives of ubuntu.
[06:53] <Valarkin_> it seems to want to serve php raw rather than process irt
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: we don't know ifi we can help until you state what help you need
[06:53] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc
[06:53] <Valarkin_> I just did :D
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: no you've not
[06:53] <ikonia> Valarkin_: explain the problem
[06:53] <Valarkin_> I would give more detail but I am unsure what those details are.
[06:53] <Redtherm> It's an ASUS Eeebox, which doesn't have any bells or whistles, including a DVD drive and so on.
[06:53] <RoBo_V> oh ok ObrienDave differnt desktop s right ?
[06:53] <RoBo_V> But i think i will go with default one for now
[06:53] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Different desktop environments, yes. Along with different software suites for most.
[06:54] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, yes, same core system, different DEs. I use Xubuntu, XFCE
[06:54] <ikonia> Redtherm: this sounds like an optimus video card, but I'd need to check, what is the model of the video card
[06:54] <Valarkin_> I've done a new instll of 14.04. Followed a guide to install things. It wors fine until I ttry to get ruTorrent working then it shows an error and raw hunproicessred php
[06:54] <Valarkin_> wow unprocessed*
[06:54] <ikonia> Valarkin_: what guide did you follow
[06:55] <Valarkin_> http://blog.slowb.ro/2013/06/20/howto-setup-a-multi-user-ubuntu-seedbox ikonia
[06:55] <Redtherm> NVIDIA GeForce 820M 512MB
[06:55] <RoBo_V> im going into the sould of linux watched some history or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxjElWL8igo  and Liked the free software moment and hence the open soruce concept.
[06:55] <[L]ight> RoBo_V: Do try out the command line when you have time.
[06:55] <ikonia> Valarkin_: very very very bad guide
[06:55] <Valarkin_> got to "Now to add some aliases to make things easier." - added the aliases to bash.rc but they do not seem to work.
[06:56] <Valarkin_> Sigh.
[06:56] <Valarkin_> BEst I've found thus far
[06:56] <RoBo_V> [L]ight: that what inspired me  (i was using CLI on raspberyr pi) and felt it was so powerful.
[06:56] <ikonia> Valarkin_: just terrible.
[06:56] <Valarkin_> Any recommnedations?
[06:57] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I'd recommend re-installing your machine (if it's local to you) and just using packages provided by ubuntu if possible rather than that junk guide
[06:58] <ikonia> Valarkin_: you don't have to re-install your machine, but if you've not done anything to it yet, it may be quicker to get it to a clean state after messing around with that guide
[06:58]  * RoBo_V downloading Ubuntu 14.04.1-desktop x64, New Begining
[06:58] <Valarkin_> it is using core packages - what specifically is wrong with it?
[06:58] <Valarkin_> I do not mind the reinstall - I've been through 13 already ;)
[06:58] <Valarkin_> It is more than a little maddening though.
[06:58] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it puts lots of junk packages on there, it doesn't really do a good setup of the webserver it pulls down torrent packages from tar files and doesn't setup and security
[06:58] <rainbowwarrior> Hello , I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 via a terminal in Opensuse 13.1 with debootstrap and I get this error " E: Failed getting release file http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/dists/trusty/Release "  and when I looked for it using Firefox it gave me a 404 Not Found error
[06:59] <ObrienDave> Valarkin_, lucky number 14 coming up :))
[06:59] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: using wget?
[06:59] <rainbowwarrior> Anyone know how I can solve my problem please ?
[06:59] <Valarkin_> Gotcha - unfortunately I'm not cluied in enough to know what I need and do not.  Linux has come a long way since Slackware
[06:59] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: do a normal intsall
[06:59] <Valarkin_> but....
[06:59] <Redtherm> There's a bunch of these, reading through them might be a lot of work, but it's something a bunch of people seem to be struggling with.
[06:59] <Redtherm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1288572
[07:00] <ikonia> Redtherm: gnome shell is nothing to do with your issue
[07:00] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: scratch that. I misread.
[07:00] <javaisnotlinux> Does anyone's System log program show the incorrect dates for the logs in the sidebar?
[07:00] <javaisnotlinux> I am using ubuntu 14.04.1
[07:00] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : I can't otherwise I would hence why I am trying to do it via debootstrap
[07:01] <ikonia> Redtherm: that card dooesn't appear to be an optimus card
[07:01] <ikonia> Redtherm: you may find it easier to just disable the intel graphics card in your bios
[07:01] <javaisnotlinux> Is it ok to remove gnome-system-log as it shows the incorrect dates anayway
[07:01] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : no problem
[07:01] <javaisnotlinux> will it mess up my system
[07:02] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: Can't you just burn the iso to a usb or CD?
[07:02] <Redtherm> ikonia: thanks for taking the time. I'll see what I can do. :)
[07:02] <Redtherm> Reboot.
[07:03] <Valarkin_> ikonia - do you know a good base install guide? If I can get the server configged properlay at the base I can then see about getting the toehr gubbins
[07:03] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I'm not aware of guides
[07:04] <Valarkin_> so where should a noob turn for guidance?
[07:04] <ikonia> just ask people
[07:04] <Valarkin_> I am :D
[07:04] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : I have a dvd but I can not get into the bios on my Acer Aspire V5 571P laptop as the screen is broken and I am using an AOC monitor via HDMI and it keeps booting into OpenSuse , I have tried to get into Ubuntu but it hangs on the login screen and ctrl+alt+f1 just reboots my laptop
[07:04] <ikonia> research what's needed for what you want and ask people to help you
[07:04] <Valarkin_> "Do a new install" is a bit general
[07:05] <helmut_> hi
[07:05] <ikonia> Valarkin_: no-one said that is the solution
[07:05] <Valarkin_>  Valarkin_: I'd recommend re-installing your machine (if it's local to you) and just using packages provided by ubuntu if possible rather than that junk guide
[07:05] <ikonia> Valarkin_: then read the rest of what I said
[07:06] <albert__> yes
[07:06] <Valarkin_>  Valarkin_: you don't have to re-install your machine, but if you've not done anything to it yet, it may be quicker to get it to a clean state after messing around with that guide
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: you don't need to paste everything - read the whole conversation
[07:07] <Valarkin_> well, I have done a lot, so a new install is easire
[07:07] <Valarkin_> but then what.
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: research what components are needed to do what you want, then ask for help in setting them up
[07:07] <Valarkin_> getting to a base install is the easy part. knowing what i need and do not is harder
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: or find documentation on how to set each one up
[07:07] <Valarkin_> this is my last stop, not my first in terms of research
[07:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it does't appear that way
[07:07] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: Try a different mirror.
[07:08] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it appears you are just following guides blindly
[07:08] <Valarkin_> Appearances can be decieving
[07:08] <Valarkin_> knowing what to look for is half the problem
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> Hi can someone check their gnome system log application which is pre-installed on ubuntu. I think there it s bug
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> where the dates in the side bar don't match the dates in the log
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> either that...or I have been hacked?
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> perhaps
[07:09] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: please don't make such random things up like "I've been hacked"
[07:09] <Valarkin_> Not blindly - I looked at every line of that guide, checked the packages etc on the web
[07:09] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: ok
[07:10] <javaisnotlinux> I would just like to understand what has happend, and wether it is a bug or not
[07:10] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: have you checked your system time ?
[07:10] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: have you checked the actual file logs match
[07:11] <Valarkin_> ah, to forget what it means to be new.
[07:11] <[L]ight> javascript: something wrong with your time synchro?
[07:11] <ikonia> Valarkin_: what ?
[07:11] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: the actually logs when viewing them using less seem to have dates that make sense
[07:11] <javaisnotlinux> The system time is the current time
[07:11] <Valarkin_> Since we are taling about 'seems' - it seems you are more interested in holding forth than helping
[07:12] <ikonia> Valarkin_: what ?
[07:12] <Valarkin_> Did I mumble?
[07:12] <javaisnotlinux> Could this be a bug in the gnone-system-log
[07:12] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I don't understand what you're saying
[07:12] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: ok, so look at your system clock, does that have the right time ?
[07:13] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: check the basics first before assuming bugs
[07:13] <Valarkin_> It seems you are more interested in being condescending and dismissive than helpful.
[07:13] <javaisnotlinux> Yes, it does have the correct time
[07:13] <ikonia> Valarkin_: well good luck getting help then,
[07:13] <Valarkin_> I was having any prior to being honest?
[07:13] <ikonia> Valarkin_: as you can see I'm pretty active in helping people
[07:14] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I don't understand what you're saying, sorry
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: ok, so that's a good start
[07:14] <Valarkin_> I am asking for noob guidance
[07:14] <Valarkin_> you say: go learn linux
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: find an eveny in gnome-system-log
[07:14] <ikonia> Valarkin_: no-one said that
[07:14] <[L]ight> Valarkin_: Google. Stop whining please.
[07:14] <cina> how do I open port :3000 using iptables? I have done this it it has been added but still I cannot access 3000 from the outside. the command I used: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 3000 -j ACCEPT
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: then find the event in the log file
[07:14] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: see if the time stamps match up
 Valarkin_: research what components are needed to do what you want, then ask for help in setting them up
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:06] <Valarkin_> getting to a base install is the easy part. knowing what i need and do not is harder
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:06] <ikonia> Valarkin_: or find documentation on how to set each one up
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:06] <Valarkin_> this is my last stop, not my first in terms of research
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it does't appear that way
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:07] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: Try a different mirror.
[07:15] <Valarkin_> [2014.09.03][09:07] <ikonia> Valarkin_: it appears you are just following guides blindly
[07:15] <ikonia> cina: that looks a good rule
[07:15] <unopaste> Valarkin_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:15] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: could I type 'logger hello world', and see if it in both gnome-system-log and the actual logs using less?
[07:16] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: that's a good test
[07:16] <salah_> Hi, I have a server where I want to block ALL requests from Chinese and Russian domains/IPs. What is the simplest way to do this?
[07:16] <Valarkin_> I came to you with a specific problem : the server is serving raw php instead of processing it
[07:16] <ikonia> salah_: firewall their IP range
[07:16] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that specific issue is because the event handler for apache isi not parsing php
[07:16] <Valarkin_> you've told me to do a reinstall and to research
[07:16] <cina> ikonia: does the order of rules matter? there seems to be a REJECT line before that, like this: REJECT  all -- *  * <IP_ADDRESS>/0 <IP_ADDRESS>/0 reject-with icmp-host-prohibited
[07:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: that could be because the extension is wrong, or the module is not loaded
[07:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: I told you to do a re-install because the guide you are following is poor, I also stated you do not have to do a re-install,
[07:17] <ikonia> Valarkin_: so stop making things up and making out like you've been treated poorly
[07:17] <Valarkin_> if I have done nothing to the system - which i have
[07:17] <ikonia> cina: the rules matter yes, as if rule 1 sets something and rule 2 unsets it, it's not set
[07:18] <Valarkin_> the problem isnt the reinstall its the effort after that and i can not find a straightforward resource for a noob in that regard
[07:18] <Valarkin_> forgive my frustration but this has been a week already ;)
[07:18] <royalaxe> hi guys, has anyone else had this problem > double click on a usb device and ghex opens... unplug plug back in double click opens with file viewer...
[07:19] <dyu> what does -N stand for in iptables?
[07:19] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia:  The 'test' is in both gnome-system-log and when viewing the log using 'less'
[07:19] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: great do the time stamps match ?
[07:19] <[L]ight> dyu: New.
[07:19] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: yes the time does match
[07:20] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: perfect,
[07:20] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: so you know there is not a bug
[07:20] <dyu> [L]ight: why does it show up in iptables -S? how is it different from -A?
[07:20] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: problem is, to the left of the gnome-log-viewer there is a sidebar that shows the incorrect date
[07:21] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: even for the test you just did ?
[07:21] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: yep
[07:21] <cina> ikonia: how do I reorder the rules?
[07:21] <ikonia> cina: flush them and re-input them
[07:21] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-log/+bug/1169052
[07:21] <[L]ight> dyu: the -A switch is used to append. -N switch is to create a new chain.
[07:21] <ikonia> cina: you can re-order them but I've always found that too complex
[07:21] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: is that what you've just logged or did that exist ?
[07:22] <svector> is Déjà Dup is good tool to backup my current PC and move to a new one?
[07:22] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia that already existed
[07:22] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: but it is very old
[07:22] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: great, put your info in there too, detailing the test we've just done
[07:22] <cina> ikonia: I am worried that other people might have added rules, I don't want to mess it up
[07:22] <svector> Both computers will run Ubuntu 14
[07:22] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: alright, but to confirm you don't think I have been compromised, right?
[07:22] <ikonia> cina: backup the rules and re-add them in the correct order
[07:22] <ikonia> svector: I dont think so no
[07:22] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: why would you be compromised ?
[07:23] <ObrienDave> svector, clonezilla might be a better choice
[07:23] <svector> ikonia, oh okay. What do you suggest
[07:23] <svector> ?
[07:23] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: the dates are wrong
[07:23] <ikonia> svector: see ObrienDave's comment
[07:23] <cina> ikonia: how do I backup the rules? copy /etc/sysconfig/iptables ?
[07:23] <ikonia> javaisnotlinux: one app is showing the wrong date ??
[07:23] <dyu> [Ligh] so it's at the same level as INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT? i don't understand what -N fail2ban-ssh does and whether or not it conflicts with -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:23] <ikonia> cina: iptables-save
[07:23] <djdr1988> [L]ight and ObrienDave: you guys are awesome. The manual partition worked perfectly. Thank you guys for your help
[07:23] <ikonia> cina: are you using the ufw interface ?
[07:23] <javaisnotlinux> ikonia: yeah true, I'[ll stop worrying
[07:23] <I_Heart_Android-> Hey guys. Having multitouch issues on 12.04 This normal?
[07:23] <[L]ight> djdr1998: Welcomed.
[07:24] <ObrienDave> djdr1988, YAY \o/ glad it worked out for you +1
[07:24] <svector> ObrienDave, I checked it out looks like it creates an exact image of my current disk
[07:24] <cina> ikonia: thank you :)
[07:24] <svector> ObrienDave, will I not run into driver issues?
[07:24] <djdr1988> my next question is, how do I access my cdrom drive?
[07:24] <Flannel> Valarkin_: going through that page (which /is/ quite messy and awful), I don't see an `a2enmod php5` to enable the php module.
[07:25] <ObrienDave> svector, yes, i moved 5 partitions, 3 win 2 'buntu, from a 500GB to a 1500GB. no loss of data at all
[07:25] <ikonia> Flannel: it's  supposed to auto enable now
[07:25] <[L]ight> djdr1998: cd /media
[07:25] <ikonia> Flannel: (on install)
[07:25] <Flannel> ikonia: I'll believe that when I see it.
[07:25] <ikonia> it creates the symlink by default (or should do)
[07:25] <ikonia> Flannel: yes, I agree
[07:25] <svector> ObrienDave, driver issues?
[07:25] <Flannel> enabling an already enabled module won't cause problems, at any rate.
[07:25] <Valarkin_> Hi flannel - That was in one of the solutions I found for the 200 error. I ran it and it said it had nothing to do
[07:26] <Valarkin_> I'm reinstalling now
[07:26] <ObrienDave> svector, nope, none, but i don't use custom drivers
[07:26] <svector> ObrienDave, I'm moving from HP to Toshiba..
[07:26] <Valarkin_> ikonia - please forgive my outburst. Pent up frustration that has nothing to do with you.
[07:26] <Flannel> Valarkin_: Alright.  Do you, in all of apache config files, have an AddType for php?
[07:26] <IM_ON_FIRE> So I can poke one part of my screen, but I cant poke 2 parts. Anyone know where I can learn X11 compatibility with touch?
[07:26] <ikonia> Flannel: I actually thin it's the extension of the file that's being called looking at the contents of those tar files, but I can't be bothered investigating futher
[07:26] <ObrienDave> svector, that could be a different issue altogether
[07:26] <svector> ObrienDave, I want thinking my current environment contains HP specific stuff
[07:27] <Valarkin_> I'm just waiting for the fresh install atm flannel.
[07:28] <Flannel> Valarkin_: Ah, alright.  Once you've done that, you should follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:28] <ObrienDave> svector, this is true, better to do a clean install and transfer your old data using rsync or something similar
[07:28] <svector> ObrienDave, I'm trying only to move my files and things I installed
[07:28] <Flannel> I assume you've already got that page, but in case you haven't, that'll get you all set up, explain how to do a number of common things (and deal with some of the pitfalls)
[07:29] <Valarkin_> Thanks, flannel. It's really hard to find the right stuff sometimes.
[07:29] <Fandral> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop, and the 500 GB HD is partitioned into a 200 GB ext4 for Ubuntu, a swap, and two other primary partitions sda2 and sda3. I intend to install Vista on sda3, and after hours of formatting, always I get "Windows can't find a partition that meets its criteria for installation". Any help?
[07:29] <svector> ObrienDave, what about Déjà Dup
[07:29] <svector> ?
[07:29] <Flannel> Valarkin_: There's a lot of information out there, yes, separating the wheat from the chaff is often one of the hardest parts of trying something new.
[07:29] <ikonia> Fandral: vista likes to be on the first partition
[07:29] <ikonia> Fandral: install vista first on the disk and before ubuntu
[07:30] <Fandral> Ok, thanks ikonia. btw can I use GParted etc to safely move my Ubuntu partition sda1 to anything like sda2 etc?
[07:30] <Valarkin_> It's frustrating being told by someone who undertands things that you haven't pu in the effort you know you have al well.
[07:30] <ObrienDave> svector, afaik, dejaDup is not good at restoring individual files. it's more of an all-or-nothing solution. i'm not really sure about that
[07:30] <Valarkin_> as*
[07:31] <ikonia> Fandral: that will move the data, but not reconfigure the OS to be aware that the data has moved
[07:31] <Valarkin_> support is empathy + knowledge
[07:31] <[L]ight> Fandral: Install windows first.  Looks like there's no way other than reinstalling Ubuntu, something I was trying to avoid (since it's my primary system, after all).
[07:32] <Valarkin_> ok, allow me to rephrase. Stop being over sensitive :P
[07:32] <ikonia> !guidelines > Valarkin_
[07:32] <[L]ight> Fandral: If you were to install ubuntu first, it will be ignored. Ubuntu overwrites MBR as well, but adds grub entry for windows.
[07:32] <svector> ObrienDave, I actually want my JDK, IDEs, files and some SW. In what cases does CloneZilla work smoothly
[07:32] <ObrienDave> svector, using rsync will compare file-by-file and only update older files ones that don't exist on the target drive
[07:32] <rainbowwarrior> I can not seem to find any other Ubuntu 14.04 mirrors :(
[07:32] <ikonia> Fandral: have you got much data on your ubuntu system ?
[07:33] <Fandral> [L]ight: Indeed. Well, I was counting on using the Ubuntu CD to reinstall Grub anyway, after installing Windows. That wouldn't have been an issue.
[07:33] <Fandral> ikonia: Around 150 GB. Also, the OS is fully customized, I mean, with tweaks, ppas, wallpapers, custom scripts software etc. So it would be really cumbersome to move it all. :\
[07:33] <ObrienDave> svector, clonezilla is also a all-or-nothing solution. best at making 1-to-1 copies of drives.
[07:34] <ikonia> Fandral: yeah, so a re-install in the right order would be a lot of work for you to put back then
[07:34] <rainbowwarrior> !topic
[07:34] <svector> ObrienDave, is swapping the physical Harddrives a bad idea?
[07:34] <Fandral> ikonia: Exactly. But looks like there's nothing else to do. :\ Well, thanks for the suggestions anyway, most appreciated. :)
[07:34] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: That's all I can do regrettably. Can you make use of virtualization for now?
[07:35] <ikonia> Fandral: just trying to work out what's the lesser effort moving the partitions and re-configuring, or backing up the data, and re-installing in the correct order
[07:35] <ObrienDave> svector, you your case i would not recommend a straight swap. same issue, too many HP specific files
[07:35] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : Yes
[07:35] <Fandral> Indeed. A reinstall it is, then.
[07:36] <rainbowwarrior> erm what is this Ubuntu 14.10 utopic Unicorn ?
[07:36] <ObrienDave> svector, *in your case
[07:37] <Fandral> Anyway, thanks guys. I'm going to apply the solution now. Most appreciated.
[07:37] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: name of the ubuntu release.
[07:37] <rainbowwarrior> duh me
[07:38] <svector> ObrienDave, hasn't anyone come up with a solution for a situation like this?
[07:38] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, in a terminal:   cat /etc/issue
[07:39] <ObrienDave> svector, easiest way, rsync your system to a empty directory on an external drive. fresh install Ubuntu to the new computer, drive swap ok at this point. rsync old files/data to new system
[07:39] <svector> ObrienDave, cool. Which directories shall I choose to rsync?
[07:39] <ObrienDave> all of them for now
[07:40] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett : oh I am using openssue 13.1 and want to install Ubuntu using debootstra as my laptop screen is broke and i have had to connect it to an aoc monitor via HDMI , and Ubuntu 13.10 does not like my monitor and hangs on login screen so I am hoping if I can get in and do an upgrade I can then sort out the problem I hope
[07:41] <svector> ObrienDave, you mean /
[07:41] <svector> ?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, INTENSE!  and way over my head.
[07:41] <ObrienDave> svector, you probably only need the /home partition files for now, unless you have programs that install to /
[07:42] <svector> ObrienDave, /opt has my JDK and other SDKs
[07:42] <svector> ObrienDave, and I have no idea what other dirs contain that I probably installed ..:)
[07:43] <ObrienDave> svector, then / , neither does anyone else LOL
[07:43] <[L]ight> rainbowwarrior: are you able to boot to cli from login screen?
[07:43] <ObrienDave> svector, i had 600,000 files at one time. no way to know what they all go to LMAO
[07:44] <rainbowwarrior> [L]ight : No
[07:44] <svector> ObrienDave, haha
[07:45] <svector> but there should be a way to restore your system without the hardware specific things
[07:45] <svector> ..
[07:47] <ObrienDave> svector, if you don't mind the cruft, just rsync everything both ways. easiest solution i know of. i'm sure many others here have different ideas about that ;P
[07:48] <svector> ObrienDave, what is so bad about Deja Dup?
[07:48] <svector> ObrienDave, looks very similar to rsync to me
[07:48] <ObrienDave> svector, it does not like to do individual file, afaik
[07:49] <ObrienDave> svector, look into grsync
[07:50]  * rainbowwarrior bashes head on wall ahh its only pain
[07:50] <ObrienDave> poor wall ;P
[07:51] <ObrienDave> what did the wall ever do to you?  I still can't get it to work for a new port (:3131) :'(
[08:00] <rainbowwarrior> Can someone please point me to a mirror of Ubuntu 14.10 what has a release file ?
[08:00] <ikonia> cina: you previously saiid it was port 3000
[08:00] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: it's not released
[08:00] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: so it won't have a release file
[08:01] <ikonia> rainbowwarrior: earlier you said it was 14.04 you wanted,
[08:01] <cina> everything seems fine, /etc/sysconfig/iptables includes this port, I restart "service iptables restart"
[08:01] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, choose
[08:01] <cina> ikonia: no difference, none of them works
[08:01] <ikonia> cina: is this a machine at home or in a data center ?
[08:01] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : ahh
[08:01] <cina> it's a vps
[08:01] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia : ok thank you
[08:01] <cina> remote server
[08:02] <Seveas> cina: /etc/sysconfig/iptables and "service iptables restart" are not how you manage iptables on Ubuntu.
[08:02] <ikonia> cina: what version of ubuntu
[08:02] <Seveas> That's a redhat-ism.
[08:02] <ikonia> Seveas: yes.....
[08:02] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett : I did want 14.04 LTS but I can not find a single mirror with a release file :(
[08:02] <Seveas> rainbowwarrior: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/
[08:02] <ObrienDave> rainbowwarrior, will a .torrent work for you?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, torrents.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/
[08:03] <ikonia> he doesn't need media
[08:03] <ikonia> he's trying to do a debootstrap install
[08:03] <Seveas> ah
[08:03] <ikonia> hence why it wants the release file for the definition of what to get
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ikonia, that's a package, yes.  package search?
[08:03] <ikonia> cfhowlett: sorry what ?
[08:03] <Seveas> my debootstrap is a bit rusty, but I think you need http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release
[08:04] <ikonia> ahhh good call pull it from the archive
[08:04] <ikonia> the master
[08:04] <iptable> or pull the official trusty debootstrap config and use that
[08:04] <cfhowlett> ikonia, never done a debboostrap, but isn't the "release file" a package?  searchable on packages.ubuntu.com   ???  or something similar?
[08:04] <ikonia> cfhowlett: yes, but it's also an actual file
[08:05] <[L]ight> Night all.
[08:05] <ikonia> cfhowlett: the buug I referenced was with the package, but the bug was that the package did not update the physical file
[08:05] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, looks like it's mostly checksums
[08:06] <iptable>   amd64|i386)
[08:06] <iptable> 	default_mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[08:06] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, ^
[08:07] <pw_> Can anyone help making a lexmark prevail 705 printer work on ubuntu 14.04?
[08:07] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, put this in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/
[08:07] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, that's the official trusty debootstrap script. once done, you can use standard dbootstrap command to pull trusty
[08:09] <iptable> pw_, lexmark drivers on their website are only avaialble for fedora and opensuse as lexmark (company) doesn't know of 21st century yet :D
[08:09] <pw_> iptable, so what to do? Throw printer out of window and look for some fresh euros?
[08:10] <iptable> pw_, well, I'm sure I can dig the driver out somewhere of the archives, although lexmark and out-of-the-windows sounds about right. worst printers I ever used
[08:10] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : says no such file or directory
[08:11] <pw_> iptable, they have a 12.04 driver on their site, but I can't make it work on 14.04
[08:11] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, you are supposed to CREATE /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty. the directory /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ does exist and holds your debootstrap scripts. I am assuming you did install debootstrap
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Hey guys
[08:12] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : yes
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> When i try to install grub i get this
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> root@it:/# grub-install /dev/sda6
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[08:12] <iptable> pw_, define "can't make it work"
[08:12] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> What can i do O-o
[08:13] <cfhowlett> ExtremeDerpAndSo, why /sda6      ?  grub usually lives on /sda
[08:13] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, first tell us how did you break grub?
[08:13] <pw_> iptable, attribute of printjob: filter failed and cups-filter-crashed
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> It's a dual boot, And i have windows 8.1 and ubuntu
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I installed ubuntu, Windows was installed first
[08:13] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I then tried /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/ and it says permission denied
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I booted, I got windows 8.1
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> So i kept playing around in the BIOS till i got ubuntu
[08:13] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Then i ran boot repair thing
[08:14] <Guest31709> Hi guys, do you know why the latest flash version was not added for ubuntu 13.10 here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And then it told me to re-enable efi
[08:14] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : and that was as root
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> So i enabled it
[08:14] <Guest31709> For all the others was added
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And i got windows
[08:14] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, also yes, grub would sit in /dev/sda and chainload windows boot if needed. so you shoujld be welcomed by grub from /dev/sda and have a choice form grub to either boot ubuntu or windows
[08:14] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> I then disabled it, I got grub rescue
[08:14] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, you broke it. Enable EFI, windows 8.1 needs it
[08:14] <pw_> iptable, I tried a lot. Last thing: I uninstalled the normal driver, tried to force it to use ppd description (which might be stupid, since I am...)
[08:15] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Once i enable it, How should i get back into ubuntu?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Guest31709, I know why.  13.10 is end of life = no longer  supported = NO upgrades
[08:15] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, did you follow any guides? they would tell you interesting things like "disable secureboot in windows"
[08:15] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, see this http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[08:16] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Yeah i killed secure boot
[08:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, what on earth are you talking about?
[08:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, createa  file called /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trusty
[08:16] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, put the contents of http://paste.ubuntu.com/8221722/ in the file
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !who
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !!! ^^^ !!!!
[08:16] <cfhowlett> this!
[08:16] <ObrienDave> pw_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/437909/help-needed-in-using-lexmark-pro705-with-ubuntu-13-10
[08:18] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, see the link I have given you with a guide on installation.
[08:19] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, the guide assumes you have UEFI enabled at all times throughout this
[08:21] <pw_> ObrienDave, Installing a 64bit driver on a 32 bit machine?
[08:21] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, and once you create the file and put the contents in, you are supposed to make the file executable (chmod 755) and use the command "debootstrap" properly to debootstrap a trusty environment.
[08:21] <iptable> pw_, you cannot install a 64 bit driver on a 32 bit machine
[08:22] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Okay
[08:22] <pw_> iptable, that is suggested in the link ObrienDave posted...
[08:22] <iptable> pw_, you would need to find the same file, same version but 32 bit.
[08:22] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, So i have to re-install ubuntu, :(
[08:22] <iptable> pw_, you never told us it's 32 bit.
[08:23] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, for a new ubuntu / linux user that would be preferred, considering you never got it working yet
[08:23] <iptable> pw_, is it a 32 bit CPU, or just using 32 bit linux?
[08:23] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, I actually have a working ubuntu, I even updated it and installed drivers, I just cannot boot into it
[08:23] <pw_> iptable, it is a 32bit cpu
[08:24] <pw_> iptable, or... i think...
[08:24] <iptable> pw_, then you would need to find the driver in a 32-bit edition and then follow the install guide ObrienDave gave you (which fixes permissions too). welcome to lexmark world of adventures :D
[08:24] <ObrienDave> !details | pw_
[08:24] <iptable> pw_, what CPU is it? find description from "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[08:25] <pw_> ObrienDave the details would be...
[08:25] <Vladimir_> I need to add timestamp to new files that comes in to a directory, i got this: NOW=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d")     FILENAME="hostnamn.$NOW.txt         but I don't know what to do with it, do I put it inside a text file or just type it?
[08:25] <pw_> iptable, how do i post the whole output of that command?
[08:25] <ObrienDave> pw_, pastebinit
[08:26] <geirha> Vladimir_: Careful, you should not use uppercase variable names.
[08:26] <ObrienDave> !pastebinit | pw_
[08:26] <iptable> pw_, I said "description" line
[08:26] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> -.-
[08:26] <iptable> Vladimir_, I have failed to understand your question. what do you want to do exactly?
[08:27] <cooln> hello
[08:27] <addiks> hi, does anybody know how to deactivate nfs4-delegation in 14.04? i've already tried to put "NFS_SERVER_DELEGATION=off" into /etc/defaults/nfs-kernel-server with no effect.
[08:27] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, I actually have a working ubuntu, I even updated it and installed drivers, I just cannot boot into it
[08:27] <geirha> Vladimir_: Sounds like you want incrond
[08:27] <Vladimir_> iptable: I want all files that comes in to a specific directory to add a timestamp(current date/time) to the file name.
[08:27] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, so how is/was it working? what did you do to break it? please give us full story this time. We are tired of guessing and cannot read your mind.
[08:27] <geirha> Vladimir_: Though I have to ask, why the current timestamp and not the file's timestamp?
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> vx
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> fsdfsdsd
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> hello
[08:28] <linuxgeneral> what is zhis
[08:28] <pw_> iptable, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep description should give that??
[08:28] <iptable> Vladimir_, so you want to rename all files in a directory? or wnat it to work every time a file is added? this is NOT a simple task, you need inotifywait
[08:28] <iptable> pw_, why can'y you just cat the file and scroll up a few lines.
[08:29] <iptable> pw_, here, if you scrolled you'd find the description of your cpu in "model name" actually :/ model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       M 640  @ 2.80GHz
[08:30] <pw_> iptable, If you mean this line: model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
[08:30] <somsip> Vladimir_: if you want a script you can adapt (by changing the dir being monitored and the actions to be taken) you can crib from this http://is.gd/5yAlUH
[08:30] <linuxgeneral> ?
[08:30] <iptable> pw_, so you have a very strong and fast 64 bit CPU and have installed a 32 bit ubuntu
[08:30] <ObrienDave> pw_, that would be a 64bit CPU
[08:30] <iptable> pw_, if you can, reinstall to 64 bit ubuntu
[08:31] <pw_> iptable , that would solve the problem?
[08:31] <ObrienDave> pw_, not necessarily, but it's a good start
[08:31] <iptable> pw_, that would make your machine much faster and allow you to follow ObrienDave instructions
[08:32] <Vladimir_> somsip: thanks, it looks very advanced :/
[08:32] <iptable> pw_, you should always use 64 bit OS on 64 bit CPU, it makes it much faster and helps keep up with current world.
[08:32] <enclosed> current world
[08:32] <enclosed> lol
[08:32] <iptable> Vladimir_, as we said, it is NOT a simple script
[08:32] <pw_> iptable and ObrienDave: Ok, there we go again... how can I know from the model name that it is 64 bit?
[08:32] <iptable> pw_, all core i7 are 64 bit
[08:32] <Vladimir_> geirha: Just the current time and date
[08:33] <ObrienDave> pw_, trust us, an I7 is 64bit
[08:33] <iptable> pw_, you could just enter the name "Intel Core i7 64 or 32 bit" into google and you would find out
[08:33] <sapik> Yeah its 64
[08:33] <iptable> pw_, intel's website says that as well
[08:33] <pw_> iptable and ObrienDave: of course i trust you !!
[08:33] <Vladimir_> iptable: It doesn't sound hard, I mean the only thing this does is waiting till a new file arrives to the directory and add a date to the end of the file name :/
[08:34] <somsip> Vladimir_: you need watchdirs at the top, your renaming functions in the while loop, and that's about it. It's not a trivial task. Maybe best to cronjob every minute and rename any files that dont have a timestamp (kludge)
[08:34] <pw_> iptable and ObrienDave: see you back after reinstall!
[08:34] <ObrienDave> pw_, we'll be here :)
[08:34] <Vladimir_> somsip:  okej, I'l try it=)
[08:34] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Ok, I had windows 8.1 64 bit, I had efi on, I installed ubuntu, I reboot after installation was complete, I get to windows, I killed EFI and set " OS Optimization " to " Other OS", Then i boot up, I get ubuntu, I run startup repair thingo, I follow it
[08:35] <iptable> Vladimir_, no, wait until a rocket ship lands in my back yard, walk in, and fly to moon doesn't sound hard either
[08:35] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> Then i boot up, I get GRUB rescue terminal, I go into live disk and i erase the " boot " partition which was sda6
[08:35] <ObrienDave> iptable, you mean "climb in" ;P
[08:35] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> And here i am
[08:36] <somsip> Vladimir_: even easier - create an incoming folder and monitor that in the cronjob. Move and rename anything in there to your destination folder.
[08:36] <iptable> Vladimir_, actual waiting for new file in a dir and executing this is more than level 1 difficulty
[08:36] <iptable> ObrienDave, yeah, that :P
[08:36] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, That's all i know
[08:36] <iptable> somsip, well, he could use inotifywatch to find new files the moment they come in instead. then he could run it in screen session, as a daemon etc
[08:36] <iptable> Vladimir_, ^
[08:37] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, no, your ubuntu should have run from EFI
[08:37] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, the install was incorrect
[08:37] <somsip> iptable: as suggested in my linked script, but he's admitted it may be too tricky so an alternative was suggested
[08:37] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> .-.
[08:37] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, when isntalling ubuntu, install grub into /dev/sda! Don't touch what you don't need to and ubuntu and windows will boot from EFI. And ubuntu grub will welcome you with OS choice
[08:37] <Vladimir_> iptable: I already have a script that sends files to this directory, but the name is the same every time so I need to add current date to these files to differ them from each other
[08:38] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, sda1 is actually windows recovery partition
[08:38] <iptable> Vladimir_, oh, so you own a script which sends files to that directory. you could have told us that.
[08:38] <iptable> Vladimir_, we cannot read minds
[08:38] <somsip> Vladimir_: then change the filename in that script?
[08:39] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, /dev/sda! the MBR, not sda1, sda
[08:39] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, that's where ubuntu grub should go
[08:39] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, I cannot see that in GParted
[08:39] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, sda is NOT a partition, it's MBR.
[08:39] <matthew_||> sa
[08:39] <Vladimir_> iptable: but the problem is not to send files to that directory, it's the adding date/time to the files in that directory
[08:40] <matthew_||> Türk var mı gençler
[08:40] <ObrienDave> ExtremeDerpAndSo, yes you can see sda, right above sda1
[08:40] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, so no, gparted will not show it. it's the first 512 bytes of your hard drive. you should NOW fiddle with this unless you know what you are doing. Otherwise, you should have left it as default, and installed to /dev/sda
[08:40] <iptable> NOT fiddle that is
[08:41] <somsip> Vladimir_: you've been given 3 solutions now. Which one are you going to use?
[08:41] <Vladimir_> somsip: I can't change that since its a script to a network device and its a command that is initiated on the network device, it will always be the same name, I would need change it everytime the script is executed
[08:41] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Ok.
[08:41] <iptable> Vladimir_, I don't know your script, I cannot see it. I don't know what your variables are, I cannot tell you how to modify it. I cannot read your mind or see your screen. Neither can somsip
[08:42] <ExtremeDerpAndSo> iptable, Imma try following that tut's instructions and see what happens.
[08:42] <ObrienDave> ExtremeDerpAndSo, oops, nevermind, getting tired ;P
[08:42] <iptable> ExtremeDerpAndSo, ok
[08:42] <matthew_||> la
[08:42] <Vladimir_> iptable:  I don't have a script to appeding date/time to files, the script i've got is only for execeting tftp sending commands from a network device
[08:43] <somsip> Vladimir_: so you either scan the directory manually every minute (cronjob, not so good) or use inotifywait (better, but not trivial). You need to help yourself by being fully aware of your problem and what the best solution for your need is going to be. I recommended finding out how to do it with inotifywait, even if it is difficult for you it is the only way you will learn
[08:43] <Vladimir_> iptable: I believe I need another script or tool that adds timestamp to filenames in a directory, the files will already arrive every week in that directory(that's not the problem)
[08:43] <iptable> Vladimir_, you said that script puts the files in the directory. then it's the script you need to modify to rename the fiels as you do so. I cannot tell you how to modify it, what to add and where, becuase I CANNOT SEE IT!
[08:43] <iptable> Vladimir_, or use another script which does monitoring and renaming if you prefer, that's fine.
[08:44] <Vladimir_> iptable: yeah exactly, I need a totally new script =)
[08:44] <iptable> Vladimir_, because modifying current one is too difficult, ok.
[08:44] <Vladimir_> and as you all say I can use inotify to create a new script for this?
[08:45] <somsip> Vladimir_: we've both told you this a number of times. I'm out of this now as it's too much of a struggle to help you
[08:45] <iptable> Vladimir_, no, you can use a text editor. you can use inotify IN your script to get notifications on when new files come in to the directory. it's a monitoring app.
[08:45]  * iptable goes to get a coffee. too early for this...
[08:46] <Vladimir_> iptable: okey=)
[08:46] <Vladimir_> I just don't get why you are mentioning my old script that sends commands to a network device :/
[08:47] <iptable> Vladimir_, because if you have a script which puts files in that directory (you said you do), then you can make it rename the files as it's doing it! it's the BEST option. The actual proper workflow, not sure why you are not seeing this.
[08:48] <Vladimir_> iptable: it's just an expect script, it can't do much of other stuff than just send commands through an ssh / telnet session
[08:48] <iptable> Vladimir_, it can... or you can wrap around it with bash
[08:48]  * iptable really goes to get that coffee now. getting too tired at 9.50am
[08:49] <Vladimir_> iptable: Okey well I have never done much of bash scripting :/´
[08:49] <Vladimir_> iptable: no worries, I'll try to solve it somehow=)
[08:49] <iptable> in which case you could listen to what we say and cooperate
[08:49]  * iptable really REALLY goes to get that coffee NOW
[08:49] <ObrienDave> that would be WAY too easy ;P
[08:50] <Vladimir_> iptable: I'm trying, I've never done any bash scripting o other scripting except this simple expect script so it's hard for me to understand exactly what you mean
[08:51]  * ObrienDave goes to get a very large Earl Grey tea ;P
[08:54] <Vladimir_> I will try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/ =)
[08:55] <Vladimir_> Thanks for all the help guys, sorry if I got to your nerves..
[09:00] <ObrienDave> ahhhhh, the pause that refreshes ;P
[09:06] <geirha> Vladimir_: you are using expect with ssh ?!
[09:07] <dlawrence> hello
[09:07] <ObrienDave> dlawrence, greetings & welcome
[09:09] <ObrienDave> and goodbye LOL
[09:09] <cynicallemon> lol
[09:10]  * ObrienDave loves self helpers like that ;P
[09:10] <Vladimir_> geirha: yes?
[09:10] <iptable> morning cynicallemon
[09:10] <iptable> Vladimir_, read about "ssh key authentication", and ssh-copy-id etc. no need for expect. ssh already has perfect and safe mechanisms to do passwordless auth
[09:11] <cynicallemon> evening iptable
[09:11] <iptable> cynicallemon, good time(local);
[09:11] <Vladimir_> iptable: I got this to work, so it' no problem =)
[09:11] <cynicallemon> lol
[09:11] <cynicallemon> good utc
[09:11] <iptable> Vladimir_, there is the wrong way and there is the right way. ssh+expect is the wrong way, but as you wish
[09:12] <Vladimir_> iptable: why is it the wrong way?
[09:12] <cloneh> Where can I create own desktop files for the default applications list in the system settings?
[09:12] <iptable> cynicallemon, ah yes. so according to UTC, good morning
[09:12] <cloneh> I want to set Gmail (opened mit Chrome) as my default mail application.
[09:12] <mjayk> cloneh: you cant in the system settings try googling desktop icons ubuntu
[09:13] <cynicallemon> iptable: very much so
[09:13] <iptable> Vladimir_, for a start you have a password in a plain-text file. you also have a script which pretends to be an interactive keyboard. so may things can go wrong and errors occur in ssh and you expect script will either hang or plunge on, instead of dealing with e.g. "domain not found" or "host unreachable" errors
[09:13] <Vladimir_> iptable: thing is with expect I just send all the commands to the switch that I need to execute and that's it, no need for advanced scripting or programming :/
[09:13] <cloneh> mjayk, I know that I can create desktop icons in ~/.local/share/applications - but these are not the files shown in the lists.
[09:13] <iptable> Vladimir_, uhm what? expect is more complicated than ssh-copy-id ran once and a bash script. a lot more complicated.
[09:13] <iptable> Vladimir_, for a start you have a password in a plain-text file. you also have a script which pretends to be an interactive keyboard. so may things can go wrong and errors occur in ssh and you expect script will either hang or plunge on, instead of dealing with e.g. "domain not found" or "host unreachable" errors
[09:14] <iptable> Vladimir_, you are not really willing to learn, are you?
[09:14] <Vladimir_> but how do I send commands with ssh-copy-id?
[09:14] <Vladimir_> I mean without expect iptable
[09:14] <iptable> Vladimir_, have you even tried to read it's manual...
[09:15] <iptable> Vladimir_, or just bluntly ask without even reading a single line of what it does?
[09:15] <mjayk> iptable: understand there are many way to do things no right or wrong way just compromises.
[09:15] <ObrienDave> manual? we don;t need no stinking manual ;P
[09:15] <mjayk> manuals are for catching bin juice
[09:15] <iptable> Vladimir_, ssh-copy-id user@host will copy YOUR ID to remote side (you will need to enter password here). After that, ssh user@host "your-command-here" will just work without a password as remote host will trust you
[09:16] <iptable> ObrienDave, mjayk, apparently...
[09:16] <iptable> mjayk, no, there are wrong ways. storing your ssh password in a plain-text expect shell file IS exactly that. expecially when ssh has a perfectly acceptable, simple to use mechanism for passwordless auth. which is even easier as well.
[09:16] <Vladimir_> Well I got the tip from my linux teacher to use expect :/¨
[09:17] <Vladimir_> but it sounds like ssh-copy-id is a safer way to go
[09:17] <iptable> Vladimir_, safer and correct.
[09:17] <iptable> Vladimir_, your linux teacher either doesn't like you, or most likely, doesn't know enough about linux to teach
[09:18] <Vladimir_> iptable: I am willing to learn, I've been trying to solve this project for almost 3 weeks, i tried to get rancid working without success..
[09:18] <mjayk> iptable:  those who cant an all
[09:19] <iptable> Vladimir_, if he has given you a project which includes getting an unsupported package working which needs wine/recompoiling and told you to use expect shell with ssh, I would question his teaching abilities.
[09:20] <iptable> Vladimir_, you ssh-copy-id ONCE, and then just do your ssh stuff without passwords from a simple bash script. and if you need to copy files, use scp instead please. it will also be passwordless from ssh-copy-id.
[09:20] <Vladimir_> it's not a project for school, I'm creating an automation for backup of network devices at an internship for an IT company
[09:20] <iptable> Vladimir_, DEFINITELY not use expect. backups are meant to be 100% solid, not glued fun projects
[09:21] <iptable> Vladimir_, then in your bash script as you scp files over, you can rename them as you go along for example. 1 script.
[09:22] <geirha> Vladimir_: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/069
[09:23] <karab44> hello
[09:24] <Vladimir_> iptable: thanks
[09:24] <karab44> I have problem when I download with Firefox it opens i.e. zip with gedit. Many files opens with gedit.
[09:24] <karab44> I have I have Save file/ Open with - gedit(default)  dialog box
[09:24] <karab44> it doesn't occur in the system, only in FF. Zips are opened by archive manager by default.
[09:25] <ObrienDave> karab44, use chrome
[09:25] <theadmin> karab44: Firefox is dumb, it doesn't understand filetypes under Linux from what I know, it opens everything in the same application. To resolve it, point it to open files with /usr/bin/xdg-open
[09:26] <iptable> oi, firefox is intelligent and works most of the time
[09:26] <ObrienDave> MOST of the time ;P
[09:26] <karab44> Yeah, I agree because some time ago it was fine, it started to mess around 2-3 months ago
[09:27] <iptable> and does understand file types karab44, against what theadmin wrote. file types theadmin are NOT linux types. they are HTML mime-type
[09:27] <iptable> karab44, if you move your profile away and create a new one, does it still have that issue?
[09:27] <theadmin> iptable: Ah, that would explain it, most downloads are served as application/octet-stream I would assume.
[09:27] <iptable> karab44, just to see if it's global config or profile config
[09:28] <karab44> iptable: That's good experiment, I'm on my way to try that. Is quest profile good enough?
[09:28] <karab44> guest
[09:28] <iptable> theadmin, most are served with correct type. the ones firefox has actual problem with chrome will fail as well. this is a file-association issue in firefox configuration
[09:28] <karab44> brb
[09:28] <iptable> karab44, no
[09:28] <karab44> new one? OK
[09:28] <iptable> karab44, wait
[09:29] <theadmin> iptable: Well, last I checked it was basically -- I configure FF to open .jpg files with eog, it decides all of a sudden that everything needs to be opened with eog as well
[09:29] <karab44> I can use livecd if we talk about extremes :)
[09:29] <theadmin> iptable: I mean, there probably is a better way to resolve it, but I just pointed it to xdg-open and all was fine
[09:29] <karab44> brb
[09:29] <glcheetham> hey guys, everytime I boot ubuntu (14.04) my font scaling factor gets smaller and smaller, and I have to go into unity-tweak-tool and change it back every so often. This has been happening since I installed ubuntu. Any idea what's going on?
[09:29] <iptable> karab44, stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla
[09:29] <iptable> karab44, ^
[09:30] <iptable> theadmin, it is one way to solve the issue, yes
[09:30] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, that makes no sense
[09:30] <karab44> guys
[09:30] <karab44> I took me 3sec to find out that on guest session FF works smart
[09:31] <minimec> glcheetham: If you added a new user... would you see the same behaviour or could it be that you just messed around with your current users configuration?
[09:31] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, I know, right? Never had this before
[09:31] <theadmin> karab44: Perhaps some add-on borked it up?
[09:31] <theadmin> glcheetham: Check your startup apps for some odd scripts perhaps
[09:31] <iptable> glcheetham, sticky keys or an issue with the mouse scroller wheel being on short circut?
[09:31] <glcheetham> iptable, no
[09:31] <karab44> so question remains is this FF config or maybe account profile config
[09:32] <iptable> karab44, now, in order to see if it is the FIREFOX profile or YOUR USER profile, do what I asked you to
[09:32] <iptable> karab44, stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla
[09:32] <karab44> theadmin: I tried FF in failsafe mode and no config was running, behaviour remains the same.
[09:32] <k1l> karab44: rename the .folder for firefox in your home and restart firrefox. so its starts with a clean profile
[09:32] <karab44> k1l: great idea
[09:32] <iptable> k1l, I just told him to do it 3 times
[09:32] <iptable> karab44, again: stop thunderbird and firefox, then move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup, then start firefox. it will crteate fresh profile. once done testing, remove the new ~/.mozilla and mv ~/.mozilla.backup to ~/.mozilla
[09:32] <k1l> iptable: then karab44 should just do it
[09:32] <iptable> k1l, would be nice, no?
[09:33] <karab44> hehehe guys I don't read that fast. I was working for 16 hours :)
[09:33] <glcheetham> theadmin, no crazy scripts
[09:33] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, what is the DPI set to?
[09:34] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, default, i guess, for a 1366x768 screen. I changed scaling factor for menu and title bars to 0.875, however
[09:35] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, let me see if I can be a bit moer specific
[09:35] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, appearance, fonts, DPI should be 96
[09:35] <iptable> glcheetham, so you have made scaling factor changes and now scaling factor seems to change after every reboot?
[09:35] <iptable> if you revert changes, is the problem fixed?
[09:36] <glcheetham> iptable, yep that's right
[09:36] <glcheetham> iptable, no, still happens
[09:36] <karab44> okay seems that firefox with fresh, default config behaves exactly like with before. I see dialog box with gedit as default.
[09:36] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I am doing a " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty trusty and get an error " usr/share/debootstrap/functions: line 1303: /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu/test-dev-null: Permission denied "
[09:36] <iptable> glcheetham, in any case, it is connected to the changes you made. now, tell us exactly what change and where
[09:36] <iptable> karab44, sorry, I missed that. so firefox with new profile WORKS or behaves like with old profile, i.e. incorrectly?
[09:37] <karab44> pardon, incorrectly
[09:37] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, I guess permission is denied. 1. does the directory learing to the test exist, and 2. are you running debootstrap as root
[09:38] <karab44> but as I already found out, works good on guest profile
[09:38] <iptable> karab44, right, so it's not firefox issue but user profile issue (since with a new user profile on same system issue is resolved)
[09:38] <ObrienDave> karab44, have you tried setting the default app through file manager? (right click, open with)
[09:38] <glcheetham> iptable, I changed the scaling factor for menus and title bars to 0.875, and I think that's it as far as settings go
[09:38] <Ceninant> What did the mozilla team break now?
[09:38] <iptable> Ceninant, nope, it's user profile in ubuntu, not firefox
[09:39] <iptable> glcheetham, how and where exactly did you change it?
[09:39] <karab44> ObrienDave: there is no default app assigned in firefox, in system there is default app assigned to open files but regardless to that FF opens it in gedit anyway.
[09:39] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, please see here http://imgur.com/dYtCuX3
[09:40] <glcheetham> iptable, I changed all those settings through the gui, system settings -> appearance -> whatever
[09:40] <glcheetham> iptable, however, I did modify the text scaling factor through unity-tweak-tool
[09:41] <ObrienDave> that should not matter
[09:41] <karab44> brb
[09:41] <sagar> hey
[09:41] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, aye, 'tis a mystery
[09:42] <Cuppa_coffee> anybody know why chrome/gmail displays some text in emails rather garbled and why firefox/gmail dont have that problem? (ubuntu 14.04 btw)
[09:42] <ObrienDave> glcheetham, rather than using scaling, may i suggest you gust change the font size?
[09:42] <iptable> speaking of chrome :P
[09:42] <glcheetham> iptable, I did install ccsm at one point and modified a few settings (I can't remember what)
[09:42] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Encoding setting, perhaps
[09:43] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Menu -> Tools -> Encoding -> Auto detect
[09:43] <glcheetham> ObrienDave, just tried that, I will report back if anything is fixed or not
[09:43] <iptable> glcheetham, so quite a few things tweaked and modified then. Issue present with a fresh user profile?
[09:43] <ObrienDave> *just
[09:43] <Cuppa_coffee> in the browser? It's utf-8. and on auto
[09:44] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Oh huh
[09:44] <iptable> karab44, well, it's file associations in your profile for firefox that have the issue. using the workaround theadmin presented might be a quick and working fix
[09:44] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Perhaps in GMail itself, then, there's a setting there too.
[09:44] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: Try clearing browser data, see if it helps
[09:44] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : yes and i realised what I did wrong and now I get this error " E: No such script: 14.04
[09:44] <rainbowwarrior>  "
[09:45] <karab44> iptable: "point it to open files with /usr/bin/xdg-open"?
[09:45] <theadmin> karab44: Yeah, that
[09:45] <glcheetham> iptable, issue does not appear to be present with a fresh user profile
[09:45] <karab44> :)
[09:46] <karab44> ty
[09:46] <rainbowwarrior> iptable : I am typing " debootstrap --arch amd64 trusty /mnt/ubuntu /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64/dists/trusty "
[09:46] <Cuppa_coffee> theadmin, i'll try that later. Figured it would be better if i first tried to google the problem :P
[09:46] <Cuppa_coffee> sorry to waste your time
[09:47] <stonner> hi everyone
[09:47] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, spaces
[09:47] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, you cannot just use spaces like that!
[09:48] <stonner> i have a nvidia card, and i am suffering with a bug: nvidia has fallen off bus
[09:48] <stonner> i am on ubuntu 14.04 64bits
[09:48] <iptable> rainbowwarrior, /var/run/media/wolfheart/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ? directory name with spaces without quotes. cannot be.
[09:48] <stonner> lastest default kernel
[09:48] <stonner> default ubuntu kernel
[09:48] <kevin> hi everyone
[09:48] <stonner> nvidia 331.89 driver
[09:48] <iptable> glcheetham, so it is a configuration issue in your user profile. well, we got this far.
[09:49] <stonner> anyone hows how to fix that?
[09:49] <iptable> stonner, falled off bus?
[09:49] <iptable> stonner, what?
[09:49] <glcheetham> iptable, :-)
[09:51] <RoBo_V> guys my md5sum not maching with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes downloaded ths ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:51] <Cuppa_coffee> theadmin, zooming in to 110% fixed the display issue. Am i correct in assuming it's a chrome bug?
[09:52] <theadmin> Cuppa_coffee: ...well that's odd, it might be
[09:52] <cfhowlett> RoBo_V, bad iso.  get a new one
[09:52] <stonner> iptable, nvidia has fallen off bus, i see this message in logs
[09:52] <iptable> uhm, ok
[09:52] <Cuppa_coffee> same for zooming out btw. I think I'll go for ye olde n00b solution: wait for the developers to fix it
[09:52] <geirha> RoBo_V: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/MD5SUMS  does any of these match?
[09:53] <stonner> iptable, my computer freezes, when i am playing counter strike source
[09:53] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, torrent from http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:53] <RoBo_V> cfhowlett: HOW ?  downloaded from ubuntu website officially
[09:53] <geirha> RoBo_V: The wiki seem to be stuck at 14.04, but the latest is 14.04.1
[09:53] <cfhowlett> RoBo_V, bad downloads happen.  use torrents
[09:53] <iptable> stonner, try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-rhel-fedora-linux-nvidia-nvrm-gpu-fallen-off-bus/
[09:54] <ObrienDave> RoBo_V, OOPS, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:54] <geirha> RoBo_V: 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd *ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:54] <karab44> theadmin: it did help indeed
[09:54] <iptable> RoBo_V, your download failed. maybe it stopped and thought it succeeded, or maybe some other error in transmision. re-download
[09:54] <RoBo_V> evigrande: oh thanks yes 14.04.1 it is
[09:54] <RoBo_V> matcheddd
[09:54] <RoBo_V> Yuppy !
[09:54] <iptable> oh
[09:54] <iptable> duh
[09:55] <iptable> I assumed user was checking the correct file :P
[09:55] <RoBo_V> iptable: cli cant be wrong, just did "wget"
[09:55] <RoBo_V> xD
[09:55] <iptable> RoBo_V, it CAN
[09:55] <geirha> it's help.ubuntu.com's fault for lagging behind imo
[09:55] <karab44> but when I set open zip to Archive manager it didn't work, only pointing explicitly to xdg-open did the trick. How interesting is that.
[09:55] <RoBo_V> geirha: right wiki stucked at 14.04