[00:02] <gigenieks> I did delete using Live CD movie (6.5GB) and got Avail: 5.4G. Tried to login without Live Cd - worked. But I didn't download today / yesterday any stuff so it is quite wierd that suddenly Xubuntu "says" there is NO free space. Lets see how long I have to wait for this issue again...
[00:03] <charlie-tca> Using the system generates some temporary files. For example, firefox keeps a hug amount of information for every website.
[00:04] <charlie-tca> editing a file may generate a backup, etc
[00:04] <charlie-tca> s/hug/huge
[00:04] <charlie-tca> logout/login may cause a session to be saved, more space used
[00:23] <BurnZeZ> Hello.
[00:23] <BurnZeZ> I have a question which may sound dumb.
[00:23] <BurnZeZ> I can't seem to find the menu for altering network connections/settings.
[01:19] <pleb_> anyone else have trouble using flux on xubuntu
[01:20] <pleb_> it's not able to change my screen lighting.
[01:21] <pleb_> hm, got it to work on one of my two monitors.
[01:30] <pleb_> oh awesome, I can make it work by invoking xflux directly.
[01:43] <monica_> can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[01:48] <pleia2> I'd start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:48] <pleia2> hm, actually
[01:48] <pleia2> there is a better page on help.ubuntu.com
[01:49] <pleia2> here we go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[01:51] <monica_> the question is: how to change the sound to a USB headphone?
[01:55] <philipballew> monica_, there is probably a guide to this online, Let me help you with this
[01:55] <philipballew> :)
[01:55] <philipballew> ! alsa
[01:56] <philipballew> !sound
[01:59] <philipballew> whats the model number? ill look it up online
[02:02] <monica_> Philipballew thanks for you answer, but the discription you give looks like the settings that you have in Ubuntu (Gnome), but this is Xubuntu and here I can not find the same kind of audio settings as there are in Ubuntu (Gnome).
[02:03] <philipballew> yeah, someone should edit that bot. whats the model number of the headphones your running? i can look and see if I find anything
[02:06] <philipballew> but i would personally see if anyone has had trouble with your model as well
[02:06]  * philipballew is curious if alsa mixer picks them up when pluged in
[02:08] <monica_> it is not realy a headphone but it is en external sound device were you can connect a normal headphone. The type is X-FI Go from SoundBlaster.
[02:10] <philipballew> so the usb adapter has a female headphone jack at the end of it?
[02:12] <monica_> if a connect it than i can select it in the audio output modules from the VLC player but sellecting it is not working. You are correct that the sound divice has a normal analog headphone connector like the pc also has, but the pc sound unit is not very good and the external unit gives far better sound.
[02:14] <philipballew> oh nice. what does alsamixer show?
[02:15] <philipballew> you type alsamixer in the terminal to get the thing to change all your audio settings
[02:15] <philipballew> ... well the main ones
[02:16] <monica_> if a select the X-FI in the VLC settings than after about two seconds the pc speakers start to play again.
[02:16] <monica_> i wil try you last sugestion
[02:17] <philipballew> there is probably a way to get them to automaticly go to that on boot or when the program starts
[02:17] <philipballew> its worth a shot.
[02:22] <monica_> in the terminal alsamixer i can select the X-FI Go but than i can only see the settings and change the volume. As you suggest i wil try to do a reboot with the X-Fi Go connected.
[02:23] <monica_> I this i will try a bit more tomorro, I go to bed now. Thanks for your help!
[03:28] <celestial> hey every one i need a little help im trying to get video thumbnails in thunar and i hav e everything installed but still no thumbnails any one know how to fix this
[03:32] <jrmy> sorry to ask again.. but how do you install official java?
[03:32] <jrmy> i know you do something with enabling a repo.. and then i'd enter an sudo apt-get install java
[03:32] <jrmy> but i don't remember enough to do it on my own
[03:33] <jrmy> unless i can skip the first step
[03:34] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#Some%20Java%20applications%20don%27t%20work,%20I%20want%20proprietary%20Oracle%20Java.
[03:35] <Unit193> ^^^ Guide should be good for Any Ubuntu flavor
[03:37] <jrmy> lol, no wonder i forget how to do this.. i need to write this down for future installations of ubuntu
[03:39] <k_sze> There is no udevinfo or usbview in Xubuntu?
[03:42] <jrmy> im gonna bookmark the page for community user documentation
[03:42] <jrmy> hate bugging people to spoon feed me/being a burden
[03:43] <Unit193> Eh, you can also search the wiki
[03:44] <jrmy> wiki?
[03:44] <jrmy> didn't even think of that
[03:45] <orngjce223> Usually googling "ubuntu ___" or "xubuntu ___" will turn up something, as well.
[03:45] <orngjce223> http://xkcd.com/627/
[03:45] <orngjce223> :V
[03:47] <jrmy> but, hell ive been using linux long enough where i should be able to take care of myself
[03:47] <jrmy> sure i keep switching between windows and linux but yeah
[03:48] <zenrox> i have used linux for the past 10 years +
[03:48] <Unit193> So ^^ would be better to answer questions than I :P
[03:48] <zenrox> probly
[03:49] <zenrox> lol
[03:50] <zenrox> but i make good guesses cause i dont pretend to know it all
[03:51] <jrmy> i should probably try and help people in these channels
[03:51] <zenrox> i do sometimes
[03:51] <jrmy> hell i know i can help windows users as long as its not techy stuff
[03:52] <jrmy> well stuff thats not really complicated
[03:52] <jrmy> i actually probably know a little bit of the techy stuff
[03:52] <jrmy> but sweet ive got java and flash installed.. all done for now\
[03:52] <zenrox> i know winshit in and out from 3.11 wfw till now
[03:53] <zenrox> and rh 3.2
[03:53] <zenrox> till now
[03:53] <zenrox> and ubuntu from the first releace
[03:53] <jrmy> whats rh?
[03:53] <zenrox> i whent to linux for a new chalange
[03:53] <zenrox> rh=redhat
[03:53] <jrmy> ah
[03:54] <jrmy> yeah i think i tried ubuntu(which was also my first try at linux) back when 5.x was out
[03:54] <zenrox> i use warty worthog
[03:54] <zenrox> that was a pain
[03:54] <jrmy> hard to say though.. but i remember that the panels wouldn't work lol
[03:55] <jrmy> I don't remember the names well
[03:55] <Unit193> It's so much easier to fix your own problems than others :P
[03:55] <zenrox> 5.4 or 5.10
[03:55] <jrmy> I'm usually pretty good at fixing my problems
[03:55] <jrmy> kinda forced to when its a hardware issue where the computer won't start
[03:56] <zenrox> i member the first linux install i used i reinstalled it about 10 times to get it the way i wanted it rpms were just being intruduced
[03:56] <zenrox> linux has taught me more about hardware that windows has
[03:56] <zenrox> that=than
[03:56] <jrmy> ive had a good/fun use with both
[03:57] <jrmy> i'd probably try mac for a while too
[03:57] <zenrox> you can put linux on a mac
[03:57] <jrmy> right.. im talking about the os
[03:58] <jrmy> isnt it liek os/x or something?
[03:58] <jrmy> i really have no idea
[03:58] <zenrox> ya
[03:58] <zenrox> os x
[03:58] <zenrox> its backly unix
[03:59] <zenrox> or based on unix
[03:59] <jrmy> but, lol i'd never be stupid enough to buy a mac just to try the os out.
[03:59] <zenrox> its ok
[03:59] <zenrox> imho
[03:59] <jrmy> macs are way to expensive
[03:59] <jrmy> i'd rather make a custom build and then buy the os
[03:59] <zenrox> its like windows execpt the expancive hardware that is locked in
[04:00] <zenrox> i love linux just cause its so custimizable like the X86-64 hardware
[04:01] <jrmy> much more stable too
[04:01] <zenrox> that too
[04:01] <jrmy> lol wish linux had it all
[04:01] <jrmy> gaming audio creation and gaming
[04:01] <orngjce223> Audio?
[04:01] <jrmy> whoops..
[04:01] <zenrox> the only tang i am really dispointed is gamming and webcams
[04:02] <orngjce223> try kxstudio heh
[04:02] <jrmy> well i'm only saying audio because of what i've heard about mac
[04:02] <zenrox> tho wine does play most of my games tho
[04:02] <jrmy> wine will probably play most of the games i play too
[04:03] <zenrox> wine has bine knowen to play some games faster than on windows
[04:03] <zenrox> like wow(blah)
[04:03] <Sysi> jrmy: afaik linux isn't that bad for music
[04:03] <orngjce223> I come from the ubuntustudio side of the wall.
[04:03] <Sysi> there are good even commercial apps
[04:03] <orngjce223> Linux has certain good audio workflows, and some not so good, but they're better than most people suspect.
[04:04] <orngjce223> I will /never/ live without JACK again.
[04:04] <jrmy> i used arbour
[04:04] <jrmy> pretty good
[04:04] <jrmy> not sonar but still not bad
[04:04] <orngjce223> Hours of fussing with questionable downloads of virtual drivers gone, just like that. Seriously. It's pretty awesome being able to wire things together, everything else on linux is icing.
[04:05] <orngjce223> Now don't get me wrong, I use LMMS, which is still beta enough that it doesn't yet have a working "undo" button
[04:05] <orngjce223> But it's all pretty cool.
[04:05] <zenrox> jack has bine good for the audiofiles
[04:05] <jrmy> i haven't thoroughly tested that yet because that last computer was too slow
[04:06] <zenrox> not for the everyday linux usere
[04:06] <orngjce223> Yeah, that true.
[04:06] <zenrox> but alsa has come a long way
[04:06] <jrmy> not sure what jack is for never had a fast track to record with
[04:06] <orngjce223> There's some niches in which it is incomparably awesome, and many in which it is pretty good, but where it's bad, it's bad enough to scare everyone away from it.
[04:07] <zenrox> yep
[04:07] <jrmy> still talking about lmms?
[04:07] <orngjce223> Basically JACK connects program to program with super low latency
[04:07] <orngjce223> I meant Linux in general
[04:07] <jrmy> ah.. right.. i'd agree
[04:07] <orngjce223> Mmhm
[04:08] <zenrox> but linux will get thare
[04:08] <zenrox> and will outshine
[04:08] <zenrox> any other os
[04:08] <jrmy> if linux had gaming i'd say buh bye to windows forever
[04:08] <orngjce223> It does. Just not the AAA titles.
[04:08] <zenrox> i have watched it grow the last 10 years and it has gotten way better
[04:08] <orngjce223> And let me be honest
[04:08] <jrmy> right
[04:08] <orngjce223> It's for those blockbusters that is the /only/ place the bazaar development model doesn't work.
[04:09] <zenrox> yep
[04:09] <orngjce223> You can have many people chipping away at code, but herding artists is like herding cats.
[04:09] <Sysi> jrmy: you can quit gaming :P
[04:09] <jrmy> Sysi: lol
[04:09] <zenrox> sysi lol
[04:09] <orngjce223> Heheheheh
[04:09] <zenrox> never
[04:09] <orngjce223> I'll be honest
[04:09] <orngjce223> My gaming experience consists of a hundred hours of Desktop Tower Defense
[04:09]  * zenrox stomps his wand of justice
[04:09] <jrmy> i do like consoles alike though
[04:09] <orngjce223> And really flash games are cool tbh, if you get the good ones
[04:09] <jrmy> from the atari to current gen
[04:10] <orngjce223> I don't do high polygon super realistic stuff though
[04:10] <orngjce223> I understand Crysis is someone's piece of cake, but I don't get that, personally.
[04:10] <orngjce223> Eh
[04:10] <jrmy> i need a little more action in the games i play
[04:10] <orngjce223> Probably my brain's fault really.
[04:10] <orngjce223> I don't get the uncanny valley effect either.
[04:10] <jrmy> idk if i'd liek crysis to be honest
[04:10] <Sysi> you have dosbox, what else could you need besides linux games
[04:10] <orngjce223> I'm not normal enough to make such judgements for other people.
[04:11] <zenrox> like nwn for linux
[04:11] <jrmy> whats nwn?
[04:11] <zenrox> never winter nights
[04:11] <jrmy> never played
[04:11] <zenrox> its a d and d based rpg
[04:11] <jrmy> gotcha
[04:12] <zenrox> done by atari
[04:12] <Renegade_> I have a intel atom 330 nvida ion with 2GB ram...should I install 32bit or 64bit?
[04:12] <zenrox> Renegade_, id do 32 bit
[04:12] <zenrox> but thats a persional preff
[04:12] <Renegade_> any reason why?
[04:12] <jrmy> i wonder if that cpu is even 64
[04:12] <jrmy> i'd doubt it
[04:12] <zenrox> it is
[04:12] <zenrox> i think
[04:13] <Sysi> you don't really benefit from 64 there
[04:13] <jrmy> really? guess i need to read up on intel... or not.. i actually prefer amd
[04:13] <jrmy> lol
[04:13] <jrmy> yeah the hardware isn't good enough
[04:13] <orngjce223> Eh, 64 introduces lots of incompatibilities
[04:13] <Renegade_> yeah it is 64 bit
[04:13] <zenrox> i have a amd athlon x2 64 3200
[04:13] <orngjce223> If you never venture outside the repos that's not too much of a problem
[04:13] <Sysi> orngjce223: not really
[04:14] <orngjce223> Mmhm
[04:14] <zenrox> an i run 32 bit
[04:14] <Renegade_> I installed 64 bit but not sure if I should stick with it or 32 bit
[04:14] <orngjce223> I just tried and failed to put in the 64 bit flash player a month or two ago
[04:14] <jrmy> zenrox: i think i have a similar cpu
[04:14] <orngjce223> So when it's bad, it's bad. Yeah.
[04:14] <Sysi> orngjce223: that works well for me
[04:15] <Sysi> Renegade_: if everythong works, dont fix it
[04:17] <Renegade_> well it works but if one runs better I wouldn't mind using that instead
[04:17] <Renegade_> this is what I got http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856176002
[04:19] <jrmy> hmm.. never seen anything liek that before.. kinda neat
[04:21] <Renegade_> very sleek and small. love it
[04:21] <Renegade_> got it on sale when it was $130
[04:22] <jrmy> nice
[04:22] <Renegade_> got a 2.5 inch 500gb lying around and bought 1x2gb ddr2 ram and got it running in no time
[04:22] <Renegade_> would of got 4gb ram but ddr2 sodimm are expensive
[04:23] <jrmy> i'd still prefer an ATX though
[04:23] <Renegade_> yeah I'll probably get a matx for when diablo 3 comes out
[04:24] <Renegade_> this is my first upgrade since 2004 so the computer I'm using was ancient
[04:24] <Renegade_> amd barton +2500XP
[04:46] <Evanescence> how to change Xubuntu's default notify into libnotify-bin ?
[05:43] <jrmy> what should i use to record audio?
[05:43] <jrmy> apparently ardour doesnt work for 64bit
[05:43] <jrmy> so now i regret installing xubuntu 64bit
[05:47] <Unit193> Seen Audacity?
[05:48] <jrmy> anything better>
[05:48] <jrmy> ?*
[05:48] <jrmy> yes..
[05:51] <jrmy> guess i'll just download lmms
[06:01] <toddlikesdesign> anyone use midori?
[06:02] <bazhang> toddlikesdesign, whats the question about it
[06:03] <toddlikesdesign> Why does it have issues with gmail?
[06:03] <bazhang> toddlikesdesign, what issues?
[06:05] <toddlikesdesign> Gmail doesn't finish loading. Won't load the ajax version without identifying itself as another browser. I suppose that's on gmail's end though.
[06:05] <toddlikesdesign> What does a red address bar signify?
[06:07] <bazhang> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=19f570d38b8867e7&hl=en  toddlikesdesign may want to check this, last post
[07:03] <riccardo> Hi, is it a Italian speaker ?
[07:04] <knome> !it | riccardo
[07:51] <k_sze> So Xubuntu doesn't seem to have udevinfo or usbview.
[07:51] <k_sze> What do I do to extract similar info?
[07:52] <k_sze> Is it because Xubuntu doesn't even use udev anymore?
[08:20] <TheSheep> k_sze: lsusb?
[09:09] <xublinux> What is more stable: Xfburn, K3b or Brasero?
[09:10] <philipballew> can you try all and choose?
[09:15] <xublinux> Yes, I can... :)
[09:18] <xublinux> But I have wasted some DVDs with errors with brasero (always making a data disk, i don't no why) and I'd like to know wich of them runs better on xubuntu in order to not waste more disks.
[09:26] <Ycarene> I have good luck with k3b even though I don't use KDE
[09:32] <xublinux> thanks Ycarene. I'll try k3b. (I use xfce. But in this thing I prefer something to save money in disks that something faster)
[11:43] <tokksen> I'm having problems with getting multiple monitors to work correctly. I don't know how to disable mirroring, I see no option for that in the xfce display settings. (xubuntu 11.04, notebook display + external monitor)
[11:44] <Myrtti> try with xrandr or grandr, latter has a gui
[11:46] <tokksen> grandr did the trick, thank you!
[11:47] <Myrtti> np :-)
[11:49] <Sysi> Myrtti: do grandr and arandr have any (major) difference? dependencies if not usability
[11:56] <Myrtti> Sysi: I have experience only on grandr
[15:30] <ChristopherNG> Does anyone one else find it difficult to know which hdd is which when they are given names like sdd1, sde2 etc
[15:31] <ChristopherNG> is there an "easy" of telling which one is which
[15:31] <ChristopherNG> especially when you have a few hdds the same size
[15:32] <madnick> but you know where your filesystems are right?
[15:33] <ChristopherNG> I normally do ls /media
[15:33] <ChristopherNG> and then change to the directory if thats what you mean
[15:34] <ChristopherNG> madnick: I would rather they were named better so its easier to tell which hdd is which one especially when they are the same size
[15:35] <ChristopherNG> picking a hdd is sometimes like picking a wire to cut in defusing a bomb.
[15:35] <ChristopherNG> the red or the blue?
[15:35] <madnick> So give your disks names
[15:35] <ChristopherNG> let me see how to do that
[15:45] <Sysi> you can name partitions with gparted
[15:47] <Sysi> HDDs are in same order that they're connected to sata- and other connectors
[15:48] <ChristopherNG> yeah im looking into it now
[15:52] <genii-around> I sometimes find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#Filesystems useful, it shows all the command line ways to change volume names on drives, depending on what filesystem is on them
[16:15] <ChristopherNG> hey folks, im outputting from my laptop to my screen, but the resolution on the tv is much higher than the laptop so it looks a little off, instead of an exact mirror..
[16:16] <ChristopherNG> any easy way to get an exact mirror of the laptop to fit exactly on the television screen, i have been playing around with the resolutions
[17:03] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, it really depends
[17:04] <xrdodrx> for instance the max resolution of most TV's isn't higher than 1080p even though they might be 40"
[17:04] <xrdodrx> really whatever you do it's going to look a little off
[17:05] <xrdodrx> the best you can get is to run xrandr -q
[17:05] <xrdodrx> find out the television's highest possible resolution
[17:05] <xrdodrx> and set it to that
[17:05] <xrdodrx> a TV does not make a good computer monitor :)
[17:06] <madnick> they did back in the 70s!
[17:07] <xrdodrx> madnick, ;)
[17:44] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: Hi sorry for the late reply ive been multi tasking
[17:44] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, that's okay
[17:44] <ChristopherNG> So there is "no fix" for a "perfect mirror resolution"?
[17:45] <xrdodrx> can you post the output of xrandr -q to pastebin or something?
[17:45] <ChristopherNG> Its fine for movies because VLC has the aspect ratio feature
[17:45] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: kk
[17:46] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662842/
[17:46] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, this is part of your problem
[17:46] <xrdodrx>    1680x1050      60.0*
[17:47] <xrdodrx> the * denotes which resolution the monitor is currently at
[17:47] <xrdodrx> or in your case the TV
[17:49] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: should i change the 60.0?
[17:49] <ChristopherNG> to match the laptop?
[17:49] <xrdodrx>  xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMImode 1920x1080--pos 0x0
[17:49] <xrdodrx> let's try something like that first
[17:49] <xrdodrx>  xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080--pos 0x0
[17:49] <xrdodrx> sorry
[17:49] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: you want me to put that into the terminal then?
[17:50] <ChristopherNG> the second one?
[17:50] <xrdodrx>  xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0
[17:50] <xrdodrx> yes
[17:50] <xrdodrx> try that
[17:50] <xrdodrx> made sure all spaces and things were right :)
[17:52] <ChristopherNG> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0
[17:52] <ChristopherNG> warning: output LVDS not found; ignoring
[17:52] <ChristopherNG> warning: output HDMI not found; ignoring
[17:53] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, o
[17:53] <ChristopherNG> ?
[17:53] <xrdodrx>  xrandr --output LVDS-1 --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0
[17:53] <xrdodrx> sorry
[17:54] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662850/
[17:55] <xrdodrx> you didn't copy the whole command ChristopherNG
[17:55] <ChristopherNG> i didnt? let me check :(
[17:57] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: i ran the command and it changed the screen a little
[17:58] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, it should have
[17:58] <xrdodrx> how does it look now? :)
[17:58] <ChristopherNG> abit worse actually
[17:58] <xrdodrx> explain
[17:58] <xrdodrx> is anything off screen
[17:58] <xrdodrx> is it taking up the whole screen
[17:58] <xrdodrx> etc
[17:59] <ChristopherNG> there is more off the screen now
[18:00] <xrdodrx> okay
[18:00] <ChristopherNG> its hard to explain to someone who can not see it.
[18:00] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, play with xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos *x*
[18:00] <xrdodrx> don't paste that command as is, change the numbers after pos
[18:01] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: yes change the "*"
[18:01] <xrdodrx> yes
[18:01] <ChristopherNG> give me a number to start at plz
[18:01] <ChristopherNG> roughly and i take it from there
[18:01] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, 100 :)
[18:01] <ChristopherNG> troll
[18:01] <ChristopherNG> lol
[18:01] <xrdodrx> I really can't see to help you
[18:01] <xrdodrx> this is where the left corner of the screen is
[18:02] <xrdodrx> in x, y
[18:07] <xrdodrx> any luck, ChristopherNG ?
[18:09] <gridcube> ChristopherNG: doesnt your tv/monitor has an autosetup? try shutting it off and on to see if it fixes itself
[18:10] <xrdodrx> what gridcube said also might work, as it would re-adjust to fit the output X is giving to it
[18:10] <xrdodrx> :)
[18:10] <ChristopherNG> yeah im trying and i think im getting closer
[18:10] <ChristopherNG> the thing is this command that im running only changes the display on the tv not the laptop right?
[18:11] <xrdodrx> yes
[18:11] <gridcube> doesnt your output has a 1080 or 720 set? you should try those too
[18:12] <gridcube> ChristopherNG: whats your tv model?
[18:14] <ChristopherNG> acer 23" model no: AT2365M 1080P
[18:16] <gridcube> at2365? acer page only lists 2326 on the 23"
[18:16] <ChristopherNG> let me find it
[18:17] <gridcube> on 32" there is a 3265
[18:18] <ChristopherNG> sorry its actually at2356m
[18:18] <ChristopherNG> multitasking here
[18:21] <gridcube> > 1920 x  1080 pixels @ 60 Hz refresh rate (for 23” models ).
[18:22] <ChristopherNG> xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos
[18:22] <ChristopherNG> so what to change that last part to?
[18:22] <ChristopherNG> 60x60?
[18:22] <ChristopherNG> this is really irritating lol
[18:22] <ChristopherNG> yeah its a 23 inch
[18:22] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, you either auto adjust the monitor or `guess and check'
[18:23] <ChristopherNG> 20x60 the 20 is the left and the 60 the right?
[18:23] <xrdodrx> no
[18:23] <xrdodrx> it's 20 to the right and 60 down
[18:23] <xrdodrx> or should be
[18:26] <gridcube> 66.6h 60v
[18:27] <ChristopherNG> im confused aswell
[18:28] <xrdodrx> :<
[18:28] <xrdodrx> so am I
[18:28] <xrdodrx> you said your only issue was that the picture was offscreen
[18:29] <gridcube> http://support.acer.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?tab=1&modelId=3405
[18:29] <gridcube> ok gotta go
[18:29] <gridcube> :D good luck
[18:39] <ChristopherNG> back sorry i got dc
[18:40] <ChristopherNG> now here is what i think
[18:40] <ChristopherNG> 1. I should lower the resolution on the tv becaues its far too high
[18:40] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, sometimes a picture speaks a thousand words
[18:40] <xrdodrx> if you take one I can help you much better :)
[18:40] <ChristopherNG> sure where to upload it?
[18:41] <xrdodrx> imgur, imageshack
[18:41] <xrdodrx> your choice
[18:41] <ChristopherNG> give me a minute
[18:41] <ChristopherNG> um wait!
[18:41] <ChristopherNG> i think it just auto adjusted there
[18:41] <ChristopherNG> wow!
[18:41] <ChristopherNG> its almost fixed
[18:41] <xrdodrx> :D
[18:42] <ChristopherNG> let me xrandr -q and paste it
[18:43] <ChristopherNG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/662873/
[18:44] <ChristopherNG> how is that different from the first xrandr -q i posted?
[18:44] <ChristopherNG> it looks much, much better on the tv
[18:44] <ChristopherNG> not 100% but 90%
[18:44] <xrdodrx> glad to hear it :)
[18:44] <xrdodrx> sorry the resolution I recommended was too high
[18:44] <xrdodrx> every TV is different
[18:45] <ChristopherNG> 1680x1050+0+0
[18:45] <ChristopherNG> is that what the tv is now?
[18:45] <xrdodrx> yes
[18:46] <xrdodrx> that means --mode 1680x1050 --pos 0x0
[18:46] <ChristopherNG> great because i need to shift it to the right a little on the tv i change the y axis?
[18:46] <ChristopherNG> HDMI-1 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[18:46] <xrdodrx> try changing the x axis
[18:47] <xrdodrx> x goes left to right, y goes up and down
[18:47] <ChristopherNG> ok remember the current settings in case i forget them plz.
[18:47] <xrdodrx> sure :)
[18:47] <ChristopherNG> this is the closest ever!
[18:50] <ChristopherNG> xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --pos 5x0
[18:50] <ChristopherNG> im going to try that
[18:51] <ChristopherNG> move from the left to the right alittle
[18:51] <xrdodrx> okay
[18:56] <ChristopherNG> ok
[18:56] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, fixed?
[18:56] <ChristopherNG> mostly, just want to fix the pannels now
[18:57] <ChristopherNG> the dock pannel at the bottom is not appearing on the laptop but appears massive on the screen
[18:57] <ChristopherNG> and the laptop shows the top pannel which the tv doesnt
[18:57] <ChristopherNG> i think that is more with the pannel preferences
[18:57] <xrdodrx> yeah
[18:57] <xrdodrx> I can't help too much in that department :(
[18:57] <xrdodrx> I'm glad your TV is displaying the best picture it can though :)
[18:58] <ChristopherNG> yeah thanks for the help
[18:58] <ChristopherNG> btw what does "span monitors" do in the pannel preferences?
[18:58] <ChristopherNG> ive clicked it and unclicked didnt seem to do anything
[18:59] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, you should try simply restarting the panels before going through all these preferences
[18:59] <xrdodrx> killall xfce4-panel && nohup xfce4-panel &
[18:59] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: i do that and they will reappear?
[19:00] <xrdodrx> yes
[19:00] <ChristopherNG> last thing i need is no pannels lol!
[19:00] <ChristopherNG> kk let me do it
[19:00] <xrdodrx> that's what the second part of the command is
[19:00] <xrdodrx> :)
[19:02] <ChristopherNG> kk thanks
[19:02] <xrdodrx> did restarting the panels help?
[19:02] <ChristopherNG> yeah it appears in both now the bottom panel
[19:02] <xrdodrx> good :D
[19:03] <ChristopherNG> im going to reboot and see what happens
[19:04] <ChristopherNG> xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --pos 0x0
[19:04] <ChristopherNG> thats my settings for the television
[19:04] <xrdodrx> ChristopherNG, might not want to do that :<
[19:04] <xrdodrx> also your settings are 5x0
[19:04] <xrdodrx> xrandr's state usually is not preserved between reboots
[19:04] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: i changed it back to 0x0 because it was pointless trying to move the screen to the right when you can easily move the icons.
[19:04] <xrdodrx> you're going to need to save that somewhere, and maybe even the command to restart the panels
[19:05] <xrdodrx> oh
[19:05] <xrdodrx> I see ;)
[19:05] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: the best test is probably going to play a movie let me try that before i reboot
[19:19] <ChristopherNG> xrdodrx: do you remember what the laptop settings were in the xrandr -q?
[19:19] <ChristopherNG> the first one?
[19:20] <ChristopherNG> your sure the xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --pos 0x0
[19:20] <ChristopherNG> only changes the display on the television not the laptop right?
[19:24] <ChristopherNG> ah its cool it got it now
[19:49] <ChristopherNG> Folks, how about this, cant there be a program written that automaatically detects what devices are connected from a graphics card out put and calculate the best output resolution to that screen?
[19:49] <ChristopherNG> Or does this already exist and ive been wasting my time?
[19:49] <charlie-tca> Sure, when do expect to have it started?
[19:50] <charlie-tca> Sure, when do you expect to have it started?
[19:50] <ChristopherNG> well im not actually a programmer, im an accountant
[19:50] <charlie-tca> There is, as always, a severe shortage of those who can write such programs
[19:51] <ChristopherNG> charlie-tca: I really wish i came across this problem the other day when xubuntu devs were meeting in that channel.
[19:51] <charlie-tca> It is not an easy program to write, even though it may make it easy to set things up
[19:51] <ChristopherNG> but i doubt they would want to spend time to make it.
[19:51] <charlie-tca> They don't have time to make it
[19:51] <ChristopherNG> so there is no such program written by anyone for any linux distrobution?
[19:52] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Linux has many distributions, and I am not familiar with most of them
[19:53] <ChristopherNG> well i will see if there is one out there for other distros and if its open sources maybe we can make a ppa or something from it for the ubuntu distros?
[19:53] <ChristopherNG> ive been doing this for a while and its long, dull and generally quite depressing.
[19:56] <madnick> I don't understand this issue :)
[19:56] <madnick> I have ATI and Nvidia cards, infact i use HDMI daily, and amdcccle works fine, same with nvidia-settings
[19:58] <ChristopherNG> madnick: you use HDMI daily, now tell me this..
[19:58] <ChristopherNG> How did you get the correct resolution to output on the television so it was a perfect mirror of your laptop/desktop?
[19:58] <ChristopherNG> did you use xrandr and keep moving it around?
[19:58] <madnick> No
[19:59] <madnick> I used amdcccle / nvidia-settings
[19:59] <ChristopherNG> and its a perfect mirror?
[19:59] <madnick> yes it is
[19:59] <ChristopherNG> :)
[20:00] <madnick> I dont think manually using xrandr is recommended, especially for new users
[20:00] <ChristopherNG> well ive been trying to play around with that all day with mixed results
[20:01] <madnick> ChristopherNG: what card do you have?
[20:02] <ChristopherNG>  product: G98 [GeForce 9200M GS]
[20:02] <ChristopherNG>                 vendor: nVidia Corporation
[20:02] <ChristopherNG> i havent tried nvidia settings, not even sure where it is? i dont see it in the software center, is it in the repositories?
[20:02] <madnick> and when you installed the drivers for this, it did not install nvidia-settings?
[20:03] <madnick> Look at Settings ->
[20:03] <ChristopherNG> i havent installed prop drivers or any graphics drivers, tried doing it manually
[20:03] <ChristopherNG> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[20:04] <ChristopherNG> shall i?
[20:04] <madnick> No, you should get the proper driver if you dont have it :)
[20:05] <ChristopherNG> i ok ive went system -> additional drivers
[20:05] <ChristopherNG> its searched and there is an "experimental 3d support for nvidia cards"
[20:05] <ChristopherNG> thats the only one, activate?
[20:05] <madnick> sure, but also try typing: sudo nvidia-settings in a terminal
[20:05] <ChristopherNG> The program 'nvidia-settings' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:06] <ChristopherNG> i did sudo aswell
[20:06] <ChristopherNG> i dont have it.
[20:06] <madnick> okay, then activate that driver
[20:06] <ChristopherNG> activating, i think i will need to reboot and come back
[20:06] <madnick> It has been ages since I installed the nvidia drivers :)
[20:06] <ChristopherNG> activated and in use, its asking me to reboot.
[20:06] <ChristopherNG> brb
[20:09] <ChristopherNG> back
[20:10] <madnick> now rerun sudo nvidia-settings :)
[20:10] <ChristopherNG> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo nvidia-settings
[20:10] <ChristopherNG> sudo: nvidia-settings: command not found
[20:10] <ChristopherNG> I think i have to get it from the repos
[20:11] <ChristopherNG> it doesnt come with that driver i dont think
[20:11] <madnick> Perhaps
[20:11] <ChristopherNG> i tried it without sudo aswell.
[20:11] <ChristopherNG> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ nvidia-settings
[20:11] <ChristopherNG> The program 'nvidia-settings' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:11] <ChristopherNG> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[20:11] <ChristopherNG> im going to get it from the repos ok?
[20:12] <madnick> sure
[20:12] <madnick> I find this whole deal very wierd, but Im still using 10.04 on the nvidia computer :)
[20:12] <ChristopherNG> done ive got it
[20:12] <ChristopherNG> ok ive typed "nvidia-settings" and its opened up
[20:13] <madnick> then just set it up :)
[20:13] <ChristopherNG> but I get a message "You do not appear to be using the Nvidia x driver please edit your X configuration file (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root and restart the x server"
[20:14] <ChristopherNG> sudo nvidia-xconfig ? or do i need to edit it with a text editor?
[20:14] <madnick> iirc it should do it all for you
[20:15] <ChristopherNG> well there is an "ok" button there click it then?
[20:15] <ChristopherNG> and ok button for that message i just tyoed.
[20:16] <madnick> I don't really remember the details :)
[20:16] <ChristopherNG> well how you gets your working?
[20:16] <madnick> I got the driver from their website
[20:16] <madnick> and installed it from there
[20:21] <ChristopherNG> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86/280.13/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-280.13.run&lang=uk&type=GeForce
[20:21] <ChristopherNG> that is the driver apparently i need.
[20:21] <ChristopherNG> When i click to download, it opens up a bunch of text
[20:21] <ChristopherNG> a .run is that a binary installer of somekind
[20:21] <ChristopherNG> ?
[20:22] <madnick> chmod +x file
[20:22] <madnick> ./file
[20:22] <ChristopherNG> ok let me use wget to download it
[20:22] <ChristopherNG> kk wget worked and its in my home directory
[20:23] <madnick> Sorry, I have to go for a bit, i bbl
[20:40] <slipkid08> hey guys
[20:41] <slipkid08> how do I upgrade my xubuntu to 11.10 A?
[20:41] <Sysi> update-manager -d
[20:41] <slipkid08> ah
[20:41] <Sysi> alpha support at #ubuntu+1, I guess you already know to exept some flicks
[20:42] <slipkid08> I know quite a bit about the CLI but I am still learning
[20:42] <slipkid08> :)
[20:43] <slipkid08> its gonna restart me
[20:43] <slipkid08> late
[21:03] <coyoteuk5> Hello can someone help me with the file manager thunor as regards my mp3 player
[21:07] <xrdodrx> coyoteuk5, maybe
[21:08] <xrdodrx> how are the two related? :)
[21:09] <coyoteuk5> ok I got a creative mp player and when I delete the files on thep layer usung the file manager thry go to a thrash file on the player so I now have an mp 3 player that is full of stuff but I cannot delete them
[21:09] <coyoteuk5> sorry for mispeling
[21:10] <coyoteuk5> is it clear or do you have any questions
[21:10] <xrdodrx> oh
[21:11] <xrdodrx> I had this problem as well
[21:11] <coyoteuk5> did you solve it
[21:11] <xrdodrx> go to the root of your mp3 player's file system
[21:11] <xrdodrx> hit ctrl+h
[21:11] <xrdodrx> delete the ,Trash-1000 folder
[21:11] <xrdodrx> shift+delete key
[21:12] <xrdodrx> in the future when you want to delete a file use shift+delete instead of just hitting delete
[21:14] <coyoteuk5> I got the folder open now I wil try it now
[21:15] <coyoteuk5> its saying unable ot move file to wate basket
[21:15] <coyoteuk5> waste
[21:17] <coyoteuk5> one minute I am going to disconnect it and try it again
[21:18] <coyoteuk5> No still the same message
[21:19] <coyoteuk5> dso you think if I put it on the boards someone might have an idea
[21:22] <coyoteuk5> well thank you for your help anyway
[21:22] <coyoteuk5> I will try that
[22:23] <ChristopherNG> Ok folks, I have a perfect mirror image on my television of my laptop.
[22:23] <ChristopherNG> Here is how to do it if anyone has the same problem and they cant get the resolutions right.
[22:24] <ChristopherNG> its 100%
[22:25] <charlie-tca> ChristopherNG: why not write up a wiki page for it?
[22:25] <ChristopherNG> charlie-tca: Thats actually a very good idea
[22:25] <ChristopherNG> because I know there will be other people out there with the same problem who dont want to spend all day getting it fixed.
[22:26] <ChristopherNG> charlie-tca: where to make the wiki?
[22:26] <charlie-tca> something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuDualMonitor maybe or similar
[22:26] <charlie-tca> ?
[22:26] <ChristopherNG> excellent
[22:26] <ChristopherNG> It will be good to give something back to the community.
[22:27] <charlie-tca> That pins it to Xubuntu, DualMonitor is whatever you think it should be
[22:27] <charlie-tca> That would be great!
[22:49] <ChristopherNG> charlie-tca: is it just me or does xubuntu not have "add new monitor" button like ubuntu?
[22:49] <charlie-tca> I never heard of such a button
[22:50] <charlie-tca> There are very definite differences between Ubuntu and Xubuntu, that may be one
[22:50] <ChristopherNG> that is why it took me 7 hours to get my laptop to output correctly to the television.
[22:50] <charlie-tca> That's why I say Xubuntu is not for new users of linux
[22:50] <ChristopherNG> Basically if i use monitor A to output with my laptop.
[22:50] <ChristopherNG> then I disattach A and connect a new screen B
[22:50] <charlie-tca> It really is not as simple as Ubuntu to make work
[22:51] <ChristopherNG> Xubuntu tries to make the same output for B as it was for A
[22:51] <ChristopherNG> thats why i spent 7 hours trying to fix it
[22:51] <ChristopherNG> I was tyring to tweak the settings for monitor A to fit B using xrandr lol!
[22:51] <ChristopherNG> ...a little to the left, up, no down!
[22:51] <ChristopherNG> waste of time.
[22:52] <ChristopherNG> Im going to make a wiki for this tomorrow
[22:52] <charlie-tca> apparently, I still use one monitor for each computer here
[22:52] <charlie-tca> It seems so much easier
[22:52] <ChristopherNG> with ubuntu or xubuntu?
[22:53] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu, of course. I test everything, I run Xubuntu
[22:53] <ChristopherNG> K, well just so everyone knows, If you attach a new monitor when you have been using a different one, Xubuntu will try outputting the same resolution on the new screen as it was for the old screen.
[22:54] <ChristopherNG> ..so dont spend all day using xrandr trying to make the old settings for the old monitor fit the new one.
[22:55] <ChristopherNG> I planned to setup my vps today! but never had the time lol!
[23:12] <Matryx> can someone help me with this. I keep getting an error: file not found when booting into OPENELEC http://imageshack.us/f/814/parion.png/


[04:10] <pantato> hi
[04:11] <pantato> I am trying to get my microphone to work in Counter-Strike. Counter-Strike just uses whatever the default system microphone is. My microphone is on my webcam. My microphone works if i open Audacity and set it to my usb device, but it still does not appear to change the system's default microphone device. Anyone know how to go about this?
[10:34] <bq> how to take screenshot in lubuntu?
[11:17] <LuMint> bq: scrot
[11:17] <LuMint> bq: or sudo apt-get install xfce-screenshoter, or whatever.
[14:02] <pantato> so lxce is openbox based?
[14:03] <pantato> lxde*
[14:05] <wxl> pantato: lxde tends to imply openbox, but it's not a requirement. i use awesome.
[19:30] <Jbmorris289> Joined with Pidgin currently on Lubuntu. :/
[19:31] <Jbmorris289> ;)*
[20:00] <Argh_> Good afternoon
[20:01] <tsimonq2> Argh_: having a problem? ;)
[20:01] <tsimonq2> (going off of your nick)
[20:02] <Argh_> I have a merc board and I cannot seem to get the keyboard to work.  I am using Lubuntu 16.04
[20:02] <tsimonq2> LuMint: s/apt-get/apt/
[20:02] <Argh_> do I need to put in that command?
[20:02] <tsimonq2> no, I was pinging someone else there
[20:02] <Argh_> sorry specifically the numberpad
[20:03] <tsimonq2> Argh_: I don't know what a merc board is, could you provide more details?
[20:03] <Argh_> it is a gaming keyboard
[20:03] <tsimonq2> does it work on Ubuntu?
[20:03] <LuMint> tsimonq2: yeah, that's easier. I also tend to use just apt these days
[20:03] <tsimonq2> LuMint: :)
[20:03] <LuMint> tsimonq2: I've been told it's only in mint that apt combines apt-get, apt show, apt-cache etc.
[20:04] <Argh_> I haven't tried ubuntu I jumped to lubuntu because it is an older computer
[20:04] <LuMint> even though I've also been told it was the case in Debian and Ubuntu, too
[20:04] <LuMint> tsimonq2: that's why I recommended apt-get, I wasn't sure
[20:05] <tsimonq2> Argh_: if it's an Ubuntu problem, then it's a driver problem, but if it's Lubuntu, then I should be able to help you
[20:05] <tsimonq2> LuMint: nope, that's not the case
[20:06] <Argh_> ok.  I am unsure where to start
[20:07] <tsimonq2> Argh_: get an Ubuntu Live USB image, reboot into that, and tell me if it works
[20:08] <tsimonq2> I'll be afk for like an hour, be back
[20:08] <Argh_> ok give me a bit
[20:12] <Argh_> How will I get back into this chat?
[20:17] <Jbmorris289> Argh_: What client are you using?
[20:20] <Argh_> not sure what you mean by client. I am using lubuntu 16.04 is that what you mean?
[20:21] <Jbmorris289> You coul just leve it on, unless you have to disconnect(in that case You can do what you did to get here)
[20:21] <Jbmorris289> could*
[20:21] <Jbmorris289> I mean,
[20:22] <Jbmorris289> What program are you using to connect to this chat
[20:23] <Argh_> slimjet
[20:23] <Jbmorris289> Slimjet. ah
[20:24] <Argh_> sorry I wasn't sure if that was directed to me :)
[20:24] <Jbmorris289> Meaning you're using the web irc client
[20:25] <Jbmorris289> Basically just do what you did before to get here again
[20:26] <Jbmorris289> If you're leaving ^
[20:27] <Argh_> ah ok
[20:27] <Argh_> well I was thinking I would use another computer that I have a kvm for and see if that works.
[21:25] <Argh_> it did not work in ubuntu either
[21:26] <Argh_> the numbers above they keys work fine just not the number pad
[21:30] <Argh_> did I loose you jbmorris289?
[21:34] <Guest31473> I have lubuntu 16.04.  I have a merc gaming board and I am unable to get the numberpad on my keyboard to work. I have tried to load ubuntu on another computer using the same keyboard and it doesn't work there either
[21:35] <Guest31473> and I have no idea what I was supposed to do to verify the nickname Argh LOL
[21:37] <Guest31473> I tried running a few commands as suggested for other keyboards where the numberpad wasn't working but it didn't seem to help either
[21:47] <GRRRRRR> I have lubuntu 16.04.  I have a merc gaming board and I am unable to get the number pad on my keyboard to work. I have tried to load ubuntu on another computer using the same keyboard and it doesn't work there either I tried running a few commands as suggested for other keyboards where the number pad wasn't working but it didn't seem to help either
[21:47] <Guest73473> GRRRR
[21:48] <Guest73473> What does it mean I "failed to identify"
[22:13] <Guest73473> anybody here?
[22:15] <Need> hello?
[22:18] <tsimonq2> Need: hello :)
[22:18] <Need> I was hoping to get some help.
[22:18] <tsimonq2> ask away :)
[22:19] <Need> I have tried a few time to get help but nobody answered :)
[22:20] <Need> my number pad isn't working on my keyboard.  They keyboard is a merc gaming board, I am using lubuntu 16.04.  I tried to install ubuntu on another computer to see if it would work with a standard install, it didn't
[22:20] <Need> I have tried running some other solutions but they have failed, so.  I will take any suggestions :)
[22:22] <tsimonq2> oh you're Argh
[22:22] <tsimonq2> :D
[22:22] <Need> hehe yes :) but it wouldn't let me have my name back
[22:23] <tsimonq2> Need: at this point, if it didn't work in Ubuntu, hop in #ubuntu
[22:23] <Need> do I just type join # ubuntu?
[22:24] <tsimonq2>  /j #ubuntu
[22:24] <Need> thanks :)
[22:24] <tsimonq2> Need: no problem :)
[23:02] <Need> Is there a way to get a more "option" version for the keyboard and mouse menu?
[23:04] <Need> the reason I ask is they gave me a link that gives an option not available in lubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/539769/numeric-keys-not-working-after-upgrading-14-04
[23:08] <lynorian> Need yes lxinput the default input changer in lubuntu but you could maybe install another one or there is probably a config file to edit but installing unity control center would allow that but would be really heavy but I do not know of a more lightweight solution
[23:09] <Need> lynorian, did you look at the link by chance?
[23:09] <lynorian> Need I did
[23:10] <lynorian> The screenshot is shown for the unity control center is the graphical program or maybe gnome control center don't know the exact package name
[23:10] <Need> hmm   have you a way I can change that or is putting in unity the way to go?
[23:10] <Need> the setting is what I am after :)
[23:10] <lynorian> need I don't know
[23:11] <Need> shoot hehe
[23:11] <lynorian> this is not my expert area I have a fairly standard us keyboard layouts so don't end up having theese problems
[23:11] <Need> well I guess I can always purge it :) gotcha.
[23:12] <lynorian> I don't know if mate would have a similar setting in the GUI
[23:12] <Need> what is mate?
[23:13] <lynorian> another desktop environment much lighter than unity
[23:14] <Need> forgive me for my ignorance.  So Unity is gui for the desktop?
[23:14] <Need> in moron terms :)
[23:15] <lynorian> for one desktop environment
[23:15] <Need> how would I install mate?
[23:15] <Need> if you have time :)
[23:15] <lynorian> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[23:16] <Need> Sweet!  off to read, may be back later :)
[23:16] <lynorian> although installing everything will end up with a ton of programs in menu
[23:16] <lynorian> you can do it but it does not mean you should
[23:18] <Need> oh
[23:18] <Need> lol
[23:19] <Need> If I may ask, what do you use?
[23:21] <Need> I guess the better questions is what should I use.  Let me get you the specs
[23:23] <Need> HMM.. that gave me to much. haha
[23:24] <Need> Pentium D 3.2 8 gigs of ram
[23:28] <lynorian> not sure unity would run well on a pentium D
[23:29] <Need> ok
[23:30] <Andymc> I installed Lubuntu on UEFI mode successfully yesterday but messed up today when adding a third OS. I had to reformat but now I can't get Lubuntu to install in UEFI mode. I'm doing exactly as I did yesterday. Using unetbootin, windows 8, USB stick. What can I do?
[23:31] <Andymc> I restored my main OS from a disk and doing exactly as I did previously, but this time windows skips over the USB even when I manually tell it to boot from that device
[23:33] <Andymc_> What can I do?


[09:19] <Allie> b& their v6 as well, since they seem to be using it to ban evade
[09:30] <Unit193> Thanks for marking the bans too!
[09:40] <Allie> Unit193: who do you take me for, some kind of heathen?
[09:43] <Unit193> Well, certainly wouldn't be the first to do that. :>
[13:30] <hggdh> @login
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all, would it be possible to have ubot9 or ubottu back working in #ubuntu-discuss please, we often need it for factoids & bugs discuss
[18:02] <krytarik> ubottu: join #ubuntu-discuss
[18:02] <krytarik> lotuspsychje: Should be there now.
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> ty krytarik
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> works like a charm, many tnx
[18:52] <hggdh> MatrixTravelerbo: anything we can do for you in the channel? If not, please /part
[19:09] <sarnold> hggdh: that's a bot. the only thing is does is join channels as it finds out about them
[19:10] <sarnold> hggdh: we knocked it off oftc because it had a habit of joining channels with names that simply couldn't be tolerated on the network, because internet.


[15:01] <CoderEurope> Hi there, i need halp downloading & installing meetfranz https://i.stack.imgur.com/TknSb.png | What is the best channel to proceed as I am looking at other comments on askubuntu ?
[15:25] <CoderEurope> balloons, dont want to put you in your place, but are you theRe ?
[15:39] <CoderEurope> willcooke, you have any strategy for installing (that can halp me) meetFraz on 17.10 artful ?
[15:40] <CoderEurope> apologies I know iam in the wromg channel.
[15:40] <CoderEurope> nhandler, ping
[15:41] <willcooke> CoderEurope, is it an Electon app?
[15:41] <willcooke> It kinda looks like one from the screenshot on their homepage, and if so, they it would be a snap to turn it in to a snap
[15:41] <willcooke> geddit
[15:42] <CoderEurope> Yes it is an electron app.
[15:43] <CoderEurope> app.asar.unpacked/electron.asar appears in my thunar.
[15:43] <willcooke> CoderEurope, you should ask them to snap it, it's easy!
[15:44] <CoderEurope> but they probably dont want a launchpad account ? anyway - how dio I install an electron executable ?
[15:46] <CoderEurope> maybe Iam seeking too much attention here ....
[15:47] <CoderEurope> Is yak Yak a snap yet ?
[15:50] <willcooke> CoderEurope, yes, looks like it
[15:50] <willcooke> snap find yak
[15:50] <willcooke> Name    Version  Developer     Notes  Summary
[15:50] <willcooke> yakyak  1.4.3    snapcrafters  -      YakYak
[15:50] <CoderEurope> cheers, bye.
[15:50] <willcooke> ?!
[19:18] <wxl> @popey: can you help the ucc figure out how to deal with the poll for the loco-council?


[06:25] <superfly> oh yey... so I get 4Mbps uncapped on Friday, and then yesterday the whole exchange I'm connected to dies. Fun fun fun.
[06:26] <nlsthzn> superfly: Typical :/
[06:27]  * nlsthzn is getting annoyed with XChat not putting in the red line to show where he red last $%&$*!
[06:27] <superfly> *read
[06:33] <nlsthzn> lol, yes... read... thanks again ;)
[06:33] <bmg505> has anybody got experience with 4MB uncapped, is it worth it, so far I have not upgraded my uncapped, as it currently more or less takes care of most of my downloads
[06:33] <bmg505> just the ubuntu updates, takes a long time :(
[06:34] <bmg505> correction over the uncapped it takes forever on my local only link is lightning fast
[06:36] <nlsthzn> bmg505: got a 8mbps line here in the UAE and to be honest since I gave up piracy I seriously don't get the use of it I should... sure youtube is fast but still...
[06:45] <Kilos> morning everyone
[06:48] <nlsthzn> hi uncle Kilos
[06:48] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn hows things there
[06:50] <nlsthzn> Windy :) and there?
[06:51] <Kilos> very good here ty. nice sunny day. had lotsa rain last  few weeks
[06:51] <Kilos> was very dry here but getting better now
[06:52] <superfly> bmg505: the little I had was awesome
[06:52] <superfly> morning oom Kilos
[06:52] <Kilos> hiya superfly
[06:52] <Kilos> bm505??
[06:52] <Kilos> bmg505 too
[06:52] <superfly> oom Kilos, I now have (when telkom fixes the exchange ), 4Mbps uncapped ADSL
[06:53] <Kilos> wow thats wonderfull
[06:57] <nlsthzn> uncapped is the bees-knees
[07:00] <sakhi> mooning Kilos and #ubuntu-za
[07:01] <Kilos> lo sakhi
[07:02] <superfly> sup sakhi
[07:05] <nlsthzn> hey sakhi
[07:11] <superfly> ohi morgs!
[07:12] <morgs> morning superfly
[07:12] <morgs> morning all
[07:17] <zerlgi> Good morning peeps
[07:17] <zerlgi> and "howzit" Kilos.
[07:18] <Kilos> hiya zerlgi  are you well
[07:18] <zerlgi> yip tx kilos
[07:18] <Kilos> good
[07:36] <zerlgi> Folks, I'm looking for 'buntu peeps in Kimberley to help a friend-of-a-friend with  looking at linux
[07:36] <zerlgi> ... he's thinking of switching from Windows.
[07:37] <superfly> zerlgi: ask on the CLUG-chat list
[07:42] <sakhi> nothing much this morning everything is looking good.
[07:47] <zerlgi> ta superfly
[08:25] <sakhi> What can I use to gather information about all the *nix servers on the network and produce a report? (besides OpManager and ZenOSS)
[08:51] <bmg505> I assume a local lan network?
[08:52] <bmg505> nmap could tell you that followed by a perl script
[08:53]  * bmg505 mumbles and wanders off
[08:54] <superfly> haha
[08:59] <sakhi> ta, bmg505 :)
[09:02] <superfly> bmg505: so what sort of work do you do?
[12:38] <linuxboy> sakhi: what sort of report?
[14:50] <bmg505> superfly, like a mercenary anything for money
[14:52] <Symmetria> hrm
[14:52] <Symmetria> someone gimme a dead simple shell script
[14:52] <Symmetria> that can turn this into a line by line output:
[14:52] <Symmetria> whois -h whois.altdb.net \!gAS2018
[14:52] <Symmetria> instead of it all wrapped all screwy like that
[14:57] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: tr -d '\n' | tr ' ' '\n'
[15:03] <inetpro> tumbleweed: nice
[15:47] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[15:47] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:47]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:51] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:52] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:52] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[16:01] <nlsthzn> interesting... the red bar for last read line works in all chat channels except this one?
[16:07] <Kilos> it should if you are in another channel when someone chats here i think
[16:08] <Kilos> go to another one and i say hi
[16:08] <Kilos> Maaz, wat eet ons vanaand
[16:08] <Maaz> Enigiets met pap en sous Kilos Ek is gelukig met mikro organismes van die internet
[16:09] <Kilos> i think it only activates when there is a post here
[16:15] <nlsthzn> Kilos: thanks for the offer...
[16:16] <Kilos> are you ready
[16:16] <Kilos> hello
[16:16] <nlsthzn> but I get the red line in any of the other channels when I minimize here... all except this one
[16:16] <Kilos> wow
[16:16] <nlsthzn> lol
[16:16] <Kilos> this one too important , wants to make you reread again
[16:16] <nlsthzn> must be :p
[16:17] <Kilos> hehe
[16:21] <inetpro> Kilos: wb
[16:21] <Kilos> ty inetpro only briefly
[16:21] <Kilos> data expires midnight
[16:21] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:21] <Kilos> lol
[16:21] <inetpro> Kilos: how much you have left?
[16:22] <Kilos> hows things there with you
[16:22] <Kilos> 50m
[16:23]  * inetpro feeling signs of burnout after having way to many meetings since the beginning of the year
[16:23] <Kilos> eish. so early in the year
[16:24] <inetpro> yep, to many people expecting to much to soon
[16:24] <inetpro> should never have taken leave if you ask me
[16:25] <inetpro> in which case I would have been in trouble with the family, you can never win
[16:26] <inetpro> but I think I'll survive, just have to figure how to work even smarter again
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <Kilos> tough in africa
[16:35] <Kilos> i been playing with bluetooth from here to a win xp pc
[16:36] <Kilos> some of the pics etc i transfered go at 3m/s
[16:36] <Kilos> wish i had that kinda internet connection
[16:39] <inetpro> Kilos: why you taking it to winXP?
[16:39] <Kilos> its the only other one i have and too small for maverick
[16:40] <Kilos> p3 with 128m ram
[16:40] <Kilos> was just learning how bluetooth works between pc's
[16:40] <inetpro> Kilos: 29/01 22:46:25 <superfly> this is my server :-D http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/IBM%20PC%20300PL%20PIII-450_446.jpg
[16:41] <Kilos> i go see
[16:41] <inetpro> 29/01 22:48:25 <superfly> PII 350MHz, 128MB RAM
[16:42] <superfly> it doesn't have a GUI though
[16:42] <Kilos> wow why i battle
[16:42] <Kilos> oh ya
[16:42] <Kilos> mine tries for hours then just hangs
[16:42] <Kilos> hiya Morganvd
[16:43] <inetpro> Kilos: you should try Xubuntu on the low end machine
[16:43] <Kilos> it works if i steal 256m ram here
[16:44] <Kilos> but the whole plan was to learn how to work with daai blou tande
[16:44] <Kilos> hehe
[16:45] <inetpro> Kilos: bluetooth can even work on the cli as far as I know
[16:45] <Kilos> and i also use xp to be able to see whats happening when tara has probs
[16:45] <Kilos> and my boet
[16:45] <Kilos> but he gone  win7 now
[16:45] <Kilos> yes i think so inetpro  but more to remember
[16:45] <Kilos> i like drag and dropping
[16:46] <Kilos> dont have to think much
[16:46] <Kilos> hehe
[16:47]  * inetpro bbl
[16:48] <Morganvd> evenign all
[16:49] <superfly> hi Morganvd
[16:58] <Kilos> oh and i played with stiffy/floppies
[16:59] <Kilos> can read them from command line and format with
[16:59] <Kilos> um
[16:59] <Kilos> kfloppy
[16:59] <Kilos> just gotta work out the permissions to write to them
[16:59] <marcog> Kilos: http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for
[17:00] <marcog> you might enjoy the attention that got
[17:00] <marcog> :P
[17:00] <Kilos> even though i might never use them again but its nice to know
[17:00] <marcog> viewed
[17:00] <marcog> 288,834 times
[17:00] <marcog> in 8 days
[17:00] <Kilos> ty marcog
[17:00] <Kilos> i searched all over
[17:01] <marcog> i found it extremely sad that people didn't know floppies existed
[17:01] <Kilos> hehe
[17:01] <Kilos> yeah
[17:01] <Kilos> and its also nice if you have one to have it work even though you dont use it
[17:02] <Kilos> like an aircon in a car
[17:05] <drubin> marcog: migrated from stackoverflow.com Jan 10 at 11:12. so more like 21 but still
[17:05] <marcog> drubin: sorry, misread the "8 days ago" but it was like 90% of that in 2 days
[17:06] <drubin> prove it :)
[17:06] <marcog> drubin: no, don't care enough
[17:12] <Kilos> "Who is general failure, and why is he reading my disk?!"
[17:12] <Kilos> hehe
[17:12] <Kilos> hiya drubin
[17:30] <drubin>  10gigs is way to small for a / partion
[18:19] <linuxboy> Kilos: floppies are a waste of time. why would I want one?
[18:20] <Kilos> lol. hehe no man i needed to get some books that were saved to floppy years ago
[18:20] <linuxboy> oooh
[18:20]  * linuxboy got rid of floppies years ago
[18:21] <Kilos> and family pics etc
[18:21] <Kilos> yip flash disks are the answer if you only doing todays kinda work
[18:25] <superfly> cocooncrash: ping
[18:32] <inetpro> 01/31 19:30:06 <drubin>  10gigs is way to small for a / partion
[18:32] <inetpro> drubin: that depends
[18:33] <inetpro> drubin: that depends on what on your strategy
[18:33] <drubin> inetpro: for a desktop
[18:33] <drubin> inetpro: I just can't seem to remove any thing else.. I have a /home partion but I still keep running out of space ;/
[18:34] <drubin> most of my space seems to go /usr/share/
[18:35] <inetpro> drubin: /usr used to live in its own partition by default
[18:35] <drubin> inetpro: and /boot and /etc and almost every other root folder :)
[18:36] <inetpro> drubin: true
[18:36] <drubin> I need to format this machine and jut encrypt the whole drive instead of having a /home partion
[18:37] <inetpro> drubin: why encrypt the whole machine?
[18:38] <inetpro> whole drive*
[18:39] <drubin> it only has one drive hehe but ye :)
[18:39] <drubin> inetpro: but I could have been talking about encrypted ram no?
[18:40] <inetpro> drubin: why not encrypt just the sensitive parts?
[18:40] <drubin> because I am human and forget to encrypt things
[18:41] <inetpro> drubin: for best performance you want to split your partitions in those that need to be read only vs read+write
[18:41] <drubin> I haven't ever really had performance issues
[18:41] <drubin> but I can see how that would help
[18:43] <inetpro> drubin: system files really do not need to be encrypted
[18:43] <drubin> but it is easy?
[18:45] <inetpro> drubin: have you tried eCryptfs?
[18:47] <inetpro> drubin: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[19:05] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[19:05]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[19:06] <inetpro> Kilos: I'll pay for this round
[19:06] <drubin> inetpro: that is currently what I think ubuntu uses int he background
[19:07] <inetpro> drubin: since when?
[19:09] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[19:09] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[19:09] <Kilos> hehe i be a sir
[19:09] <drubin> inetpro: maybe not me doesn't know
[19:09] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[19:10] <inetpro> Kilos: you just made it
[19:10] <Kilos> Maaz, gracias amigo
[19:10] <Maaz> ¡de nada compadre
[19:10] <Kilos> hehe
[19:10] <inetpro> Maaz: danke
[19:10] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[19:10] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[19:10] <cocooncrash> inetpro: pong
[19:10] <inetpro> cocooncrash: ping
[19:11] <cocooncrash> inetpro: Oh, sorry
[19:11] <cocooncrash> superfly: pong
[19:11] <inetpro> :-)
[19:12] <Kilos> hehe
[19:12] <inetpro> drubin: when is our next meeting?
[19:12] <Kilos> lo cocooncrash
[19:12] <inetpro> cocooncrash: wb
[19:12] <cocooncrash> I've been around... kinda
[19:13] <inetpro> yeah, kinda :-)
[19:13] <cocooncrash> Heh
[19:13] <inetpro> cocooncrash: are you spying on us these days?
[19:13] <Kilos> lurker
[19:13] <cocooncrash> inetpro: How's that different from usual? ;-)
[19:14] <inetpro> cocooncrash: you've been more active before
[19:14] <cocooncrash> True
[19:14] <cocooncrash> Life hey
[19:14] <inetpro> cocooncrash: np, ek verstaan alles
[19:14] <cocooncrash> Hehe
[19:17]  * inetpro remembers a time when cocooncrash was always awake
[19:17] <Kilos> hehe. married life
[19:17] <cocooncrash> Indeed :)
[19:18] <inetpro> drubin: when is our next loco meeting?
[19:20] <cocooncrash> superfly: unpong
[19:22] <inetpro> hmm... superfly sleepin already?
[19:23] <drubin> inetpro: Sorry been kinda busy over the last few weeks ;( Will sechedule something soon.
[19:23] <inetpro> drubin: np
[19:23]  * inetpro just trying to keep the ball rolling
[19:24] <drubin> inetpro: Feel free to plan one :)
[19:24] <inetpro> drubin: hmm...
[19:24] <drubin> This is a Dorocracy :)
[19:24] <inetpro> drubin: Dorocracy?
[19:25] <drubin> say it out loud.
[19:25] <drubin> Peron is charge is person that does it.
[19:26] <inetpro> drubin: are you making up new words?
[19:26] <drubin> inetpro: Yes
[19:26] <drubin> although i have heard it around
[19:27] <inetpro> not even google knows it yet
[19:27] <drubin> The point still stands
[19:27]  * drubin has been overly busy trying to sort his life out
[19:28] <drubin> and maia is also very busy...
[19:28] <inetpro> drubin: so am I, unfortunately
[19:28] <drubin> Maybe we need to think about replacing me? Since I can deal with "loco-contact
[19:28] <drubin> " stuff but sadly I am not driving ubuntu-za as much as I should
[19:28] <drubin> and people think the title means they can't do stuff
[19:29] <inetpro> eish
[19:29] <drubin> I would think being unemployed would mean more time.. Sadly it means I have less time
[19:31] <Morganvd> stop feeling sorry for yourself
[19:31] <Morganvd> your doing fine
[19:31] <Morganvd> meetings can be done when ever
[19:35]  * inetpro agrees with Morganvd that drubin is still doing fine
[19:37]  * Morganvd has a job 5 kids i have no time
[19:38] <drubin> maia was helping a HUGE amount (scrape that) maia was doing almost every thing
[20:01] <Kilos> night everyone sleep tight
[20:01] <nlsthzn> night
[20:46] <superfly> sorry cocooncrash, I was busy with householdy things
[20:50] <cocooncrash> superfly: repong
[20:51] <superfly> cocooncrash: thanks :-)
[20:51] <superfly> I'm having a problem with a PC that doesn't want to boot
[20:51] <superfly> says, "error: not enough space\n\ngrub rescue>"
[20:51] <superfly> I've googled, but I can't seem to find that error message
[20:52] <superfly> any ideas?
[20:52] <cocooncrash> Hrm, haven't seen that before
[20:52] <cocooncrash> But that looks like a rescue shell, which probably means that it couldn't load grub.img from the boot partition
[20:52] <cocooncrash> What's changed?
[20:52] <superfly> it's a new install
[20:53] <superfly> install, reboot, that error
[20:53] <superfly> it does have space, it's a 160 gig hard drive
[20:53] <cocooncrash> Anything weird with the partitioning?
[20:53] <superfly> I figure the error message is misleading
[20:54] <cocooncrash> Is this before you get a menu?
[20:55] <superfly> nothing terribly weird... /home is on a 250 gig drive with some pre-existing data that I don't want to lose, but that's it
[20:55] <superfly> yes
[20:55] <cocooncrash> No LVM or RAID?
[20:55] <cocooncrash> Separate /boot or on / ?
[20:55] <superfly> nope
[20:55] <superfly> on /
[20:55] <cocooncrash> Filesystem?
[20:55] <superfly> ext4
[20:56] <cocooncrash> Shouldn't be a problem though
[20:56] <superfly> nope, I've had this almost exact setup before, but one of my drives failed, so I had to replace it
[20:57] <superfly> had to do a bit of a drive swap, move data from 160 -> 250, but I don't think that shoud affect grub
[20:57] <cocooncrash> I can't even find where that error message comes from in the source
[20:58] <superfly> I'll try booting again tomorrow (gotta borrow mrs_fly's screen)
[20:59] <cocooncrash> I'd try booting it by hand, but I haven't had success with that before from the rescue prompt
[20:59] <cocooncrash> But probably something like: set root=(hd0,1); linux /boot/vmlinuz-<version> root=/dev/sda1; initrd /boot/initrd.img-<version>; boot
[21:00] <superfly> I'll try that
[21:00] <cocooncrash> Otherwise I'd try booting a CD and doing grub-install again
[21:00] <superfly> I've got the Grub2 page on the Ubuntu wiki handy
[21:00] <cocooncrash> Only one drive in the machine?
[21:01] <superfly> no, two
[21:01] <cocooncrash> Is the BIOS booting from the right one? Tried swapping the order?
[21:01] <superfly> good question... I'll have to see tomorrow
[21:03] <cocooncrash> Could also be an issue with grub finding the right drive to load the next stage from
[21:04] <cocooncrash> e.g. the BIOS is loading GRUB from the second drive, but GRUB is looking on the first drive for the next stage
[21:04] <nlsthzn> ... night all ... good luck superfly, hope u get it working...
[21:04] <superfly> yeah, I'll check it out
[21:04] <superfly> thanks for the tips cocooncrash :-)
[21:04] <cocooncrash> np :)
[21:15] <drubin> why is generating a self signed SSL cert such a pain
[21:17] <Morganvd> becouse is usualy does not end up being trusted
[21:23] <drubin> Morganvd: But I will trust it. It is only for my usage
[21:34] <Morganvd> lol thats kewl then
[21:53] <drubin> still a mission to generate and testup
[22:05] <inetpro> fp


[05:30] <mup> Bug #1882633 opened: Logical volume size is required <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882633>
[05:33] <mup> Bug #1882633 changed: Logical volume size is required <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882633>
[05:36] <mup> Bug #1882633 opened: Logical volume size is required <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882633>
[15:40] <mup> Bug #1882798 opened: Can't deploy CentOS 6 with xfs filesystem <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882798>
[15:46] <mup> Bug #1882798 changed: Can't deploy CentOS 6 with xfs filesystem <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882798>
[15:49] <mup> Bug #1882798 opened: Can't deploy CentOS 6 with xfs filesystem <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882798>
[15:52] <mup> Bug #1882798 changed: Can't deploy CentOS 6 with xfs filesystem <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882798>
[15:55] <mup> Bug #1882798 opened: Can't deploy CentOS 6 with xfs filesystem <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882798>
[16:10] <mup> Bug #1882806 opened: Broken test in test_maas_certificates <MAAS:Triaged by d0ugal> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882806>
[16:19] <mup> Bug #1882809 opened: available_size for md devices is higher than space available resulting in failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882809>
[16:22] <mup> Bug #1882809 changed: available_size for md devices is higher than space available resulting in failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882809>
[16:25] <mup> Bug #1882809 opened: available_size for md devices is higher than space available resulting in failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882809>
[16:28] <mup> Bug #1882809 changed: available_size for md devices is higher than space available resulting in failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882809>
[16:34] <mup> Bug #1882809 opened: available_size for md devices is higher than space available resulting in failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882809>
[16:37] <mup> Bug #1882809 changed: available_size for md devices is higher than space available resulting in failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882809>
[16:40] <mup> Bug #1882809 opened: available_size for md devices is higher than space available resulting in failures <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1882809>


[20:51] <Ddorda>  I want to pay to advertise Ubuntu, but I think that maybe there is an agreement between Compumedia (which is the representative of Ubuntu in Israel) and Ubuntu that says that Compumedia is the only advertiser of Ubuntu in Israel. how can I check it?
[20:52] <Ddorda> I mean between Compumedia and Canonical*
[20:53] <Takyoji> Pay to advertise in what way? Otherwise I don't have any specific advise.
[21:01] <Ddorda> adverts on paved roads, or maybe TV ads..
[21:02] <Ddorda> it depends on how much we will have :P
[21:16] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:18] <Ddorda> well, any idea?
[21:19] <Takyoji> I'm not entirely sure; perhaps others may have an idea. This channel is usually a slow with responses
[21:20] <Ddorda> oh.. but I can't keep the computer to much open =\
[21:20] <Ddorda> maybe there's someone I can mail?
[21:24] <Flannel> Ddorda: Ask on loco-contacts, they should be able to point you in the right direction.  I'm not having any luck finding an email address at the moment