[07:07] <Deepthought> jussi01: well, I think I'll dfo some ggogling first...
[07:07] <holyguyver> Jussial an hour ago I had sound in ubuntu, I had it for the past 3 days, I was trying to play a streamed flv file from youtube whenever it caused mplayer to crash, I reupted it & tried 3 more times, but it kept crashing mplayer, so then I went back to my music player & unpaused my mp3 song & then all sound was gone, & my speakers was making crackling sounds, so I rebooted my computer & still no sound, then I reinstalled also & still no
[07:07] <holyguyver> thing.
[07:07] <jussio1> !tab | holyguyver
[07:07] <ubotu> holyguyver: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:08] <jussio1> !sound | holyguyver, have you been through this?
[07:08] <ubotu> holyguyver, have you been through this?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:08] <MurielGodoi> Hi guys, which are the main difficulties faced by kubuntu 64bits users?
[07:08] <holyguyver> Yes i have been through that
[07:09] <holyguyver> the crash caused whatever it was, originally I thought that it had caused my computer to tell alsa not to start, but then the restart & reinstall of alsa & the manual restart of alsa should have fixed that.
[07:10] <randompie> Muriel: The biggest difficulty is Flash and proprietary multimedia codecs
[07:10] <jussio1> MurielGodoi: wine, flash and codecs
[07:10] <Agent_bob> MurielGodoi propritary crap.
[07:10] <jussio1> pretty much what Agent_bob said ;)
[07:11] <MurielGodoi> MurielGodoi: I heard that I can install Firefox and Flash 32bits to solve that. Is it true?
[07:11] <Agent_bob> !64bit
[07:11] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[07:12] <jussio1> !flash64 | MurielGodoi
[07:12] <ubotu> MurielGodoi: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:12] <holyguyver> I tried the tab talk thing
[07:13] <Agent_bob> ?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:13] <Agent_bob> !tab
[07:13] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:14] <holyguyver> Yes I tried it to talk to jussi01 because he told me to
[07:15]  * MurielGodoi just read the urls and thanks jussio1 and Agent_bob
[07:15] <jussio1> :)
[07:19] <holyguyver> He tells me to talk to him in tab & then when I do he never replies to me :p
[07:21] <jussio1> holyguyver: 2 things, i told you to use tab completion, and I was away.
[07:21] <holyguyver> what is tab completion?
[07:21] <stdin> where you type the first few characters of a nick and press tab to compete it
[07:22] <Agent_bob> ho[tab] like that
[07:22] <holyguyver> When I do that it makes the name appear in the chat window
[07:22] <holyguyver> but not in the message writing window
[07:22] <stdin> click the right one
[07:23] <Jucato> holyguyver: do it like this... type in "jus" then press the Tab key
[07:23] <stdin> or press tab to cycle them, then enter
[07:23] <holyguyver> there is no right one, this is a compressed keyboard
[07:23] <Agent_bob> stdin uhh you have to tab and click ???    yuch !  what client is that?
[07:23] <holyguyver> ju
[07:23] <holyguyver> there I did as you said
[07:24] <Jucato> did you press the Tab key after "s"? (and I said "jus")
[07:24] <stdin> Agent_bob: I don't no, konversation pops up a list which you can either click on, or cycle through with up/down/tab + enter
[07:24] <Agent_bob> Jucato   juc[tab]   only one :)
[07:24] <holyguyver> jussi
[07:24] <holyguyver> there you go
[07:24] <Jucato> hm.. X-Chat?
[07:24] <holyguyver> yes
[07:25] <Agent_bob> that's why
[07:25] <stdin> xchat doen't display a list, you just keep pressing tab to cycle
[07:25] <Jucato> ah no wonder :)
[07:25] <jussio1> you can set that in konvi
[07:25] <Jucato> jussio1: yeah, but x-chat won't give you a drop-down list to choose from. it just displays possible choices like in bash
[07:25]  * Agent_bob goes back to rewriting init scripts
[07:26] <holyguyver> yap
[07:26] <jussio1> Jucato: yeah, you can have either way in konvi
[07:26] <holyguyver> So there I hope all of that tab mess is cleared up
[07:26] <stdin> right, xchat pollutes the chat window
[07:27] <holyguyver> Back to me Jucato & Juss01, reminds me of 1 year ago :)
[07:27] <holyguyver> My external harddrive never did work well with linux :p
[07:28] <Agent_bob> what is   $'   in perl ?
[07:28] <holyguyver> It is I the man with the 1998 computer
[07:30] <Agent_bob> holyguyver it's all that new fangled hardware that's causing your problems,  you should have stuck with something dependable like i did...
[07:30] <holyguyver> I am on a 1998
[07:30] <holyguyver> 1998 gateway
[07:30] <Agent_bob> that's what i said
[07:30] <Agent_bob> see if you would have stuck with a p1...
[07:30] <stdin> Agent_bob's system still uses tubes :p
[07:30] <holyguyver> I also had a 2004 GQ, but it only had 90Mbs of ram
[07:30] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:31] <Agent_bob> stdin know perl ?
[07:32] <stdin> Agent_bob: only enough to hate it, and that not even much ;)
[07:32] <holyguyver> I am sure some of you guys remember me, I have been coming into here for years with ubuntu problems, mainly having to do with my externalharddrive(which I no longer have)
[07:32] <Agent_bob> me too.    thought you might know what   $' is     "" $basename=$';  ""
[07:33] <holyguyver> But can someone please help me with my sound :'( I am sure it requires a simple little fix that we are overlooking
[07:33] <stdin> Agent_bob: not a clue, maybe people in #perl do, but I have no experience in there
[07:34] <Agent_bob> stdin i have exp in there.  all bad.
[07:34] <Agent_bob> ;/
[07:34] <holyguyver> Last time what fixed it was something really trivial that shouldn't have fixed it & everyone was left puzzed & I said "hey as long as it is working again I don't care what the problem was" & happily left the room
[07:35] <Agent_bob> so do the same thing again
[07:35] <holyguyver> I can't remember what it was
[07:35] <Agent_bob> hmm i resemble that remark
[07:36] <holyguyver> that is why I was hoping that it was jussi01 or Jucato who helped me last time, so that they could possibly remember what it was.
[07:36] <holyguyver> Like for instants last night pidgin was crashing & we typed -n into the terminal & that fixed it :)
[07:37] <Agent_bob> holyguyver you have powered speakers ?
[07:37] <holyguyver> yes
[07:37] <Agent_bob> ok that's not it.
[07:37] <casit> hello guys, is anybody know how to get the kubuntu version number in terminal?
[07:37] <Jucato> !version | casit
[07:37] <ubotu> casit: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[07:37] <caveman26> is there a way to reduce the system load for amarok... 15-20% is a lil high for mp3's especially on a p4... xmms was alwase under 5% and averaged less than 1% cpu load
[07:37] <Jucato> holyguyver: it must not have been me. I don't trust my own skills when it comes to sounds...
[07:38] <casit> thanks
[07:38] <holyguyver> it was something that should have simply checked out or produced a list of something
[07:38] <Agent_bob> caveman26 ummm use xmms ?    heh.   no all joking aside.  i don't know of any way.
[07:39] <stdin> Agent_bob: all I can find is "" $' is the same as "substr($var, $+[0])" ""
[07:39] <holyguyver> Here i have a salution what si every single sound related file in ubuntu & what will happen if I remove & reinstall every single one of them?
[07:39] <Agent_bob> stdin ah ok.  that makes sense then.
[07:39] <Agent_bob> stdin ty
[07:40] <Lynoure> caveman26: not looking at it when it plays causes a drop from ~14% to ~4.5% to me
[07:40] <stdin> hope it helped, as I still have no clue :p
[07:40] <holyguyver> would that possibly do it?
[07:40] <s4xxon> goodmorning. i am on the download page of kubuntu . in there i see " Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy)" and "Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 4 Remix)" . does hardy come with kde4 ? and whats the difference of the remix release ?
[07:40] <holyguyver> the remix is kde4
[07:40] <Jucato> !khardy | s4xxon
[07:40] <ubotu> s4xxon: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported
[07:41] <caveman26> closed the main window... still pulling 15-20%
[07:41] <Commodore256> Does anybody have problems using gmail with Konqueror?
[07:41] <holyguyver> So what do you guys think of the removing & reinstalling every sound related file idea?
[07:42] <Jucato> holyguyver:  you might end up in a worse situation than you are right now... but as I said, I'm no sound expert
[07:42] <holyguyver> Yes commondore, just make it use a firefox user agent & all will be well
[07:42] <s4xxon> okie, but i dont see somewhere on Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) download pages something written for kde3 cd or kde4 cd
[07:42] <Commodore256> that's what i use
[07:42] <Lynoure> caveman26: I even don't have a very fast cpu, just 1.7G
[07:42] <holyguyver> the remix is the kde4 cd
[07:42] <Lynoure> (single core, even)
[07:42] <caveman26> mine is a 1.6g
[07:42] <caveman26> p4
[07:42] <Agent_bob> stdin yes,  it did.  i couldn't see how they were setting the basename var  until you mentioned the $0   and it all clicked.
[07:43] <Jucato> s4xxon: the regular download links are for KDE 3. the KDE 4 download links are under the Remix category
[07:43] <Lynoure> caveman26: hmm. Running visualizations somewhere at the same time?
[07:44] <caveman26> I can uderstand 20% cpu load to play a mp3 on something like a pentium1 133 mmx or something like that but on a p4 it should be nothing
[07:44] <s4xxon> so "Download Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron)" would give me  kde3 ?
[07:44] <caveman26> no vis
[07:44] <s4xxon> ok got it
[07:44] <s4xxon> one last question
[07:44] <caveman26> just basics and EQ
[07:44] <s4xxon> is the kde4 on remix full functional or something like testing release ?
[07:45] <caveman26> could it be the codec thats using so much?
[07:45] <Agent_bob> caveman26 yes
[07:45] <Lynoure> caveman26: you could ask on #amarok (they know their app well, but the channel is sometimes a bit... lively)
[07:45] <Agent_bob> caveman26 try a simple .ogg file and see what it uses for that
[07:46] <caveman26> I like amarok... it has a lot of useful fetures and better SQ than xmms but xmms was soooooo light
[07:46] <Agent_bob> xmms was writen to be light
[07:46] <Agent_bob> and skinned
[07:46] <esperegu_> how to install plasmoids like lancelot on kubuntu?
[07:46] <Agent_bob> if you can have both in one sentance
[07:46] <holyguyver> over this past hour I have refined my question, here is what I kust asked again in #Ubuntu : I am running Gutsy have been so for 3 days, I have had sound all those 3 days, but then a few hours ago I tried to stream a flv from youtube through mplayer when it caused mplayer to crash, then from that moment on my sound has not worked, I have restarted my computer & I have uninstalled & reinstalled alsa, & still nothing, please help
[07:47] <caveman26> .ogg file... still 20%
[07:47] <Jucato> esperegu_: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[07:47] <Lynoure> caveman26: and to make sure, this is not on kde4?
[07:47] <caveman26> nope
[07:47] <caveman26> kde3
[07:47] <Lynoure> ok, just making sure we compared the same thing :)
[07:48] <caveman26> hit stop... my cpu went to 2%
[07:48] <caveman26> lol
[07:48] <Lynoure> caveman26: out of curiousity, sqlite backend or something else?
[07:49] <s4xxon> something about wubi. on the webpage its written "Wubi does not require you to modify the partitions of your PC" . does that mean it installs kubuntu wherever it wants ? :) i cant decide where to install it and where to install my grub loader ?
[07:49] <esperegu_> Jucato: thx
[07:49] <caveman26> that I dont know
[07:49] <caveman26> I though I was using xine
[07:49] <Lynoure> caveman26: for the track data... if you haven't changed it, it's still sqlite
[07:49] <Agent_bob> s4xxon it installs it in a file on the windows fs    iirc.
[07:50] <Lynoure> (you chan check at settings -> collection)
[07:50] <caveman26> VLC = 12%
[07:50] <s4xxon> not what i need then. i need a pure installation
[07:50] <Agent_bob> !wubi | s4xxon
[07:50] <ubotu> s4xxon: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.
[07:50] <caveman26> hmmm this is odd
[07:50] <holyguyver> This is sad I have asked in Ubuntu, Kubuntu & Xubuntu & only the Kubuntu guys actually reply :p
[07:50] <Lynoure> caveman26: 'watching folders for changes' can be a bit overactive too
[07:50] <caveman26> I NEVER had mp3s use more than 5%
[07:50] <Lynoure> holyguyver: it's sad  if you simultaneously asked us all...
[07:51] <caveman26> even on my old p3 they were alwase under 5%
[07:51] <s4xxon> is there any way instead of burning a cd to make the installation from a usb flash drive ?
[07:51] <holyguyver> No I have been icromentally asking each for the past hour or 2, though I did just now re-ask them all within a few moments of each other.
[07:51] <Agent_bob> !usb
[07:51] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[07:51] <s4xxon> although i think my system doesnt boot from usb devices...
[07:51] <Lynoure> holyguyver: otherwise, just be happy you got an answer here :)
[07:52] <Lynoure> it's a good channel :)
[07:52] <holyguyver> Yes it is, but no one has been able to help me. :'(
[07:53] <Lynoure> holyguyver: oh, I misunderstood you then.
[07:53] <holyguyver> my problem is
[07:53] <holyguyver> I am running Gutsy have been so for 3 days, I have had sound all those 3 days, but then a few hours ago I tried to stream a flv from youtube through mplayer when it caused mplayer to crash, then from that moment on my sound has not worked, I have restarted my computer & I have uninstalled & reinstalled alsa, & still nothing, please help
[07:53] <caveman26> OMG... divx video  using 25% cpu..... thats a whole lot better than gutsy was doing with them.. but the mp3 perfomance took a hit
[07:54] <caveman26> animusic rocks :)
[07:54] <Agent_bob> does hardy make use of "DRM = digital restriction mechanism" ?
[07:54] <caveman26> I avoid DRM like the plegue
[07:55] <Lynoure> holyguyver: if you think it's a kde4 thing, there is still #kubuntu-kde4
[07:55] <Agent_bob> it is the plaqgue.
[07:55] <holyguyver> I am on Xubuntu
[07:55] <maduser> bob still same problem?
[07:55] <holyguyver> I don't have KDe installed
[07:55]  * Agent_bob hides
[07:55] <maduser> bob fight!!
[07:55] <Agent_bob> maduser let me scroll up and see what that was
[07:55] <Lynoure> holyguyver: oh, does it use pulseaudio?
[07:56] <maduser> tkae on the problem like a man
[07:56] <holyguyver> no it uses alsa
[07:56] <holyguyver> I am on gutsy
[07:57] <polysilicon> which virtualization softwares are available on kubuntu? I want to run a gues OS windows xp
[07:57] <holyguyver> stumped too hu Lynoure>
[07:58] <holyguyver> ?
[07:58] <Lynoure> holyguyver: just figuring it'll take more than the 3min I have
[07:59] <Lynoure> I don't get paid for doing this here, so I have to work, too :)
[07:59] <holyguyver> well just shoot out a suggestion & I will try it :p
[07:59] <stdin> !vm | polysilicon
[07:59] <ubotu> polysilicon: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[08:00] <polysilicon> !KQemu
[08:00] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu
[08:00] <boykeubuntu> hai
[08:00] <boykeubuntu> im new on kubuntu
[08:00] <boykeubuntu> can anyone help me
[08:00] <maduser> with?
[08:00] <Lynoure> holyguyver: start with rechecking the mute status in alsa. Then check logs for errors and give the next person helping also info on those + what sound chip you use, just in case
[08:01] <boykeubuntu> im getting message your adept still runnung how can i fix it?
[08:01] <holyguyver> Nothing is on mute & the logs report no errors
[08:01] <maduser> sudo dpkg --confugure -a
[08:01] <maduser> that is the apt fix
[08:01] <holyguyver> I already did all of this hours ago
[08:01] <maduser> do it in terminal
[08:02] <boykeubuntu> thanks
[08:03] <boykeubuntu> how to install mozilla browser?
[08:03] <stdin> you mean firefox?
[08:03] <maduser> please good not seamonky
[08:03] <boykeubuntu> yes
[08:04] <stdin> from KMenu -> Add/Remove Programs
[08:04] <stdin> search for "firefox" and it should be there
[08:04] <boykeubuntu> oh
[08:04] <boykeubuntu> is that the new version of firefox?
[08:05] <stdin> on hardy it's 3.0 beta 5
[08:05] <caveman26> I got firefox3... not really mutch different... it handles youtube a lot better than 2 did
[08:05] <caveman26> no skipping.... at all... none
[08:05] <boykeubuntu> i'm using fiesty
[08:05] <Artem> apt-get install firefox
[08:06] <boykeubuntu> ok thanks all
[08:06] <boykeubuntu> i will try now
[08:06] <Artem> use OPera!!!
[08:06] <stdin> use whatever you want!! ;)
[08:06] <boykeubuntu> why must i use opera?
[08:06] <_eMaX_> hello all
[08:06] <Lynoure> boykeubuntu: ?? who said you do?
[08:06] <Jucato> boykeubuntu: there is no "must". it was just suggested by someone
[08:07] <stdin> Lynoure: Artem did :p
[08:07] <_eMaX_> what may have been gone wrong if the "kicker" replacement in kde4 does no longer show up (I mean, the taskbar)
[08:07] <Lynoure> boykeubuntu: it was just a recommendation by a single person :)
[08:07] <boykeubuntu> oh
[08:07] <boykeubuntu> ok
[08:07] <boykeubuntu> sorry
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i restart DCOP?
[08:07] <Jucato> _eMaX_: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Plasma/FAQ#My_panel_is_gone.2C_how_do_I_get_it_back.3F and #kubuntu-kde4 in the future
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> heya Jucato
[08:08] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago!
[08:08]  * Jucato salutes :P
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i want to restart DCOP because it fails with Katapult.
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: should i do DCOPserver?
[08:09] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: how is it failing?
[08:09] <stdin> I think "dcopserver_shutdown ; dcopserver" should do it
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> i try to lanch kaffeine from katapult and i get this: KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe its klauncher
[08:10] <Jucato> hm.. maybe
[08:10] <Jucato> press Ctrl+Esc and see which one is not running
[08:10] <dennister> hey channel...i think i found something important for all new hardy users who are having trouble with playing dvds
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> they are both working
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> wull runndng
[08:11] <dennister> there's quite the thread about this in the forums...people who have the right codecs and working cds/players with gutsy, but not with hardy
[08:12] <Lynoure> dennister: hmm, add it to the wiki or at least share it here...
[08:13] <_eMaX_> thanks
[08:13] <dennister> the problem is that there's only a dvd1 and dvdrw1 in /dev; once you add another symlink, making another block device called dvd, gstreamer engine with kaffeine (after you set it to play with dvd) works
[08:13] <TeslaTony> What's the command for finding what programs are currently running?
[08:13] <ere4si> top
[08:13] <_eMaX_> anyone knows how to configure compiz?
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> stdin: tried your idea, didn't work...just restarted X. lets see if that helps at all
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> TeslaTony: ps
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> TeslaTony: try pstree, that'll let you see it better
[08:14] <ere4si> !ccsm | eMax_
[08:14] <ubotu> eMax_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[08:14] <TeslaTony> Admiral_Chicago: Thanks
[08:14] <holyguyver> Well Jucato & Jussi01 it just got fixed, let me tell you how it got fixed someone in #xubuntu asked me to type in  dmesg tail well playing a song in mplayer, & I did & that fixed it :D
[08:15] <dennister> Lynoure: I would share it, but i've forgotten how to edit wikis (don't have a profile anymore, either), and there's still a missing piece: when i changed dvd1 to dvd and then rebooted, it was back to dvd1 (no dvd) after that reboot
[08:15] <Jucato> holyguyver: typing dmesg alone fixed it?
[08:15] <dennister> so I have no confidence the new 'dvd' I just created will survive a reboot
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> that shouldn't be a fix...
[08:15] <Agent_bob> yep  that's close.
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> seems like klauncher is the problem
[08:16] <Lynoure> dennister: udev takes care of /dev so things get restored to how they were if you fiddle with it directly
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> got two errors launching something too, anyone know what package handles that?
[08:16] <_eMaX_> ere4si: thanks. I'm going to ask there. I installed it but don't know how to run it.
[08:16] <ere4si> k
[08:16] <holyguyver> Yes typing  dmesg tail alone fixed it, told you guys it was something simple that should have fixed it that fixed it 5 months ago :)
[08:16] <dennister> ok, so I need to remember how to fiddle with udev :)
[08:17] <dennister> so the fix survives reboot
[08:17] <Jucato> holyguyver: that shouldn't have actually fixed anything... dmesg just displays a log file...
[08:17]  * Jucato shrugs
[08:17] <Jucato> if that fixed it, who am I to argue
[08:18] <Lynoure> holyguyver: dmesg only looks at them logs, nothing more
[08:18] <holyguyver> I know that is what I told you all earlier I said what fixed it 5 months ago was something silly that should not have fixed it, but only produce a list of processes or something, but it fixed iy & you all was left wondering how.
[08:18] <dennister> Lynoure: will editing the correct udev file make the temp fix permanent?
[08:19] <holyguyver> So see I was right 2 hours ago when I said just list some silly terminal cammand to produce a list, that is what fixed it then & most likely what will fix it now :p
[08:19] <Jucato> holyguyver: tip: this time, take note of it. write it down or whatever :)
[08:20] <Lynoure> dennister: editing correct udev file, most likely /etc/udev/rules.d/75-cd-aliases-generator.rules correctly will
[08:21] <holyguyver> Jucato it is like how I also said last night Pidgin kept crashing but typing in pidgin -n fixed it :)
[08:22] <dennister> Lynoure: ty...will try
[08:22] <Lynoure> holyguyver: more likely passing of time trickered something in your system and that fixed it at the same time...
[08:24] <melkart> can somebody explain to me what in the "kubuntu" sub-directory within the user's home-directory is?
[08:24] <melkart> i mean, i notice there are lots of hidden dirs but what are they for and why are they there?
[08:24] <boykeubuntu> how can i acivate root ?
[08:24] <Jucato> !root | boykeubuntu
[08:24] <ubotu> boykeubuntu: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:24] <cpk1> melkart: lots of it is user defined settings
[08:24] <bazhang> boykeubuntu: use sudo
[08:25] <boykeubuntu> i prompted for password
[08:25] <holyguyver> So Jucato I am constantly amazed by the power of Linux :p
[08:25] <Agent_bob> melkart kubuntu or .kde ?
[08:25] <boykeubuntu> i dont know the root pass
[08:25] <Lynoure> melkart: not ~/.kde ?
[08:25] <bazhang> type it in boykeubuntu
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> boykeubuntu: its your regular one
[08:25] <boykeubuntu> oh
[08:25] <boykeubuntu> ok
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> the one you use to log in
[08:25] <Jucato> boykeubuntu: there is no root pass. it's asking for *your* password
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> detaching screen, see ya later Jucato.
[08:25] <Jucato> see yah Admiral_Chicago!!
[08:25] <melkart> cpk1: i have the .kde/ sub-directory with all the kde settings twice - once in my home-dir and once in home-dir/kubuntu/ ... which one contains the settings?
[08:25] <melkart> Lynoure: that i have on top of it
[08:26] <dennister> Lynoure: nope...took a look at both udev files with 'cd' in them, and see nothing I can change
[08:26] <Jucato> there shouldn't be a ~/kubuntu/ directory, should there? O.o
[08:26] <boykeubuntu> i try boykeubuntu but fail
[08:26] <dwidmann> Jucato: ummmm, I don't haveone
[08:26] <melkart> i use kubuntu 7.04
[08:26] <bazhang> boykeubuntu: that is your user pass?
[08:26] <Lynoure> dennister: I'm not sure I understand. What's stopping you? And even if things are, you can make a new one.
[08:26] <holyguyver> Yap all system sounds are working again thanks to  dmesg tail :p
[08:26] <boykeubuntu> no
[08:26] <Agent_bob> Jucato that's what i'm thinking.
[08:27] <bazhang> boykeubuntu: use your user pass
[08:27] <boykeubuntu> fail
[08:27] <Lynoure> melkart: no ~/kubuntu here at all, so no idea
[08:27] <dennister> Lynoure: the only time i ever fiddled with udev is when i installed a printer/scanner, and then when I had a howto telling me exactly what the file needed to be called, what to put into it, etc.
[08:28] <melkart> hm... :S ... thank you, anyway
[08:28] <Agent_bob> melkart ls -lA ~/ | grep kubuntu
[08:29] <melkart> i am sorry... i just looked into it further and realized that i didnt get a kubuntu sub-dir in the completely fresh install i have on another addition
[08:29] <dennister> during bootup there are plenty of i/o buffer errors for that drive, it does not mount/get ready to be used [fails], etc....although working fine in gutsy
[08:29] <melkart> so i suppose ... i dont know why it is there, but it must have been me then
[08:29] <holyguyver> So Bob what do you think of that fix that worked? :p
[08:29] <harolddong> Nobody messes with my meat!
[08:30] <harolddong> Making.. bacon.
[08:30] <cpk1> melkart: I just have a .kde and .kde4
[08:30]  * harolddong<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Curt & Dan) - The Shape of Things to Come
[08:30] <Jucato> !offtopic | harolddong
[08:30] <ubotu> harolddong: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:30] <harolddong> sorry I just clicking stuff random
[08:31] <maduser> no
[08:31] <holyguyver> I am so happy :D
[08:32] <Agent_bob> holyguyver i think it's a kernel bug.
[08:32] <Lynoure> dennister: hmm, I also upgraded from gutsy, though over a month before the release, and so such problems...
[08:32] <maduser> bob taking the easy way out
[08:32] <dennister> although i did notice in fstab that the cd drive, /dev/scd1, is mounted on /media/cdrom0, and /dev/scd0 (the dvd drive) is mounted on /media/cdrom1, so that's a small fix I'm implementing that probably won't make much of a difference to playability
[08:33] <holyguyver> on me the cd & dvd drive are both cdrom0
[08:33] <dennister> Lynoure: this seems to be a recent bug/problem...lots are having trouble with it, too, a 6-page thread that's been stickied in ubuntuforums..........and mine was a clean install, not a dist-upgrade
[08:34] <cpk1> dennister: where should they rather be mounted to?
[08:34] <dennister> well, i'm going to reboot, see if my tiny fstab mod makes any difference
[08:35] <dennister> cpk1: i don't think it matters too much where they're mounted to; it just seemed backward and illogical to me
[08:35] <Lynoure> dennister: if you want, you could pastebin that udev file I mentioned, I could check if that is same between us.
[08:36] <dennister> who knows? maybe only dvd1 and dvdrw1 will be generated again, but maybe i'll be in luck
[08:36] <dennister> Lynoure: ty...i will, after I reboot
[08:38]  * Agent_bob wonders if it could be hardware overheated and when cooled sufficently it works again.  or if holyguyver's issue is reproducable?
[08:43] <dennister> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <dennister> Lynoure: ok, i pasted it, but what i see from end result is not word-wrapped, so you may not be able to see all the text i do :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64804/
[08:51] <Lynoure> dennister: no difference there...
[08:53] <Lynoure> dennister: /lib/udev/write_cd_rules seems to do the heavy lifting
[08:53] <Agent_bob> may i ask what yall are fixing Lynoure & dennister ?
[08:53] <dennister> well, i think i should go to bed...i didn't get that problem fixed, but I really should work on finishing the samba tomorrow, then postgres & ledgersmb...sql-ledger is crap, and one of the biggest reasons why i wiped this hard drive and started from scratch in the first place...
[08:53] <dennister> ohhhhh, in that case.......
[08:53] <abdoreza> hi
[08:54] <Agent_bob> ok.
[08:54] <Agent_bob> well i'm out then.   shalom!
[08:54] <water> hey can someone help me with proxychain?
[08:54] <Lynoure> dennister: anyway, I'd expect Launchpad to have something useful on this
[08:55] <dennister> yes, i will check there, too...
[08:56] <dennister> ubuntu forums still didn't have a fix, that's for sure
[08:58] <Lynoure> dennister: what happened if you instead just made xine to use /dev/dvd1 or some of the other existing dvd nodes?
[08:58] <water> hellp can someone tell me why proxichains mght be telling me can't connect to proxy for every socks proxy? could it be because of my ipod
[08:58] <water> hellp can someone tell me why proxichains mght be telling me can't connect to proxy for every socks proxy? could it be because of my router?
[08:59] <boykeubuntu> can anyone help me how to install java?
[09:00] <dennister> Lynoure: if i don't creat the temporary dvd and dvdrw, and then change Kaffeine's engine to gstreamer, with the media parameter set to dvd, then there's the smashing glass sound, i'm told there's no data in the stream or no disk in the drive...
[09:01] <dennister> it's a lot of work to watch a movie, let alone simply test it :)
[09:02] <melkart> boykeubuntu: try installing "sun-java6-jre" package maybe?
[09:02] <dennister> totem worked almost right away, except that i have preferences set to load subtitles right away, and the subtitles in this movie that i know exist don't appear
[09:02] <Lynoure> dennister: What if the kafferine uses default xine and the dvd location is set to existing /dev/dvd1 (or whatever is the existing one on that system)?
[09:03] <boykeubuntu> ok
[09:03] <dennister> if kaffeine uses default xine i get the same result as when i don't do the fiddling with /dev/dvd and setting the media pareameter within gstreamer...broken glass, etc.
[09:04] <dennister> using gstreamer is the only way i can get any results, and only after more fiddling
[09:05] <Lynoure> dennister: hmm.
[09:07] <dennister> Lynoure: yep it's a bona fide new Bug #221654:, according to launchpad
[09:08] <dennister> no solutions yet, importance undecided, not assigned
[09:11] <Lynoure> hmm, #221654 (maybe ubotu will give me a direct url)
[09:14] <dennister> Lynoure: i'll give u the url for the new bug (221654) last, i'm now perusing a similar, but older one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/103173
[09:14] <Lynoure> dennister: found it already...
[09:14] <dennister> ok, i won't give you the new one then...just copied the url
[09:15] <Lynoure> dennister: do you also get a  DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[09:17] <dennister> Lynoure: no i don't
[09:17] <dennister> at least, not that i remember...
[09:19] <_eMaX_> re
[09:20] <_eMaX_> when using kde4 with or without compiz, anyone has an idea how to create more than 2 virtual desktops?
[09:20] <_eMaX_> rightclicking on the pager, I can configure, but when I set more than 2, it reverts to 2
[09:21] <dennister> as the more-established bug suggested, i tried installing xine-ui, and then kaffeine would play the movie with the xine engine, but as soon as i deleted the temporary /dev/dvd kaffeine refused again, with the error message that the source can't be read, suggesting a rights problem, or source doesn't contain data (e.g. no disc in drive)...of cource, it's referring to /dev/dvd, which doesn't exist anymore because i just deleted my
[09:21] <dennister> temporary one
[09:22] <_eMaX_> looks like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=746868 anyone has that as well?
[09:22] <boubbin> how to disable the window resizing when window is maximized ?
[09:23] <boubbin> found it already :P
[09:24] <dennister> Lynoure: it looks like another fix might be to edit the xine engine itself...i forget the config file for it...
[09:24] <dennister> get xine to look for dvd1 instead of dvd
[09:24] <pteague> a new distribution version is available?  when did that happen?
[09:25] <ere4si> !hardy
[09:25] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[09:25] <stdin> few days ago now
[09:25] <pteague> wow, i must really not be paying attention
[09:26] <ere4si> hehe
[09:26] <pteague> new kernel in it forcing a reboot?
[09:26] <dennister> anyone know where the main config file for the xine engine is?
[09:26] <Lynoure> dennister: that's what I meant when I asked what happens if you make xine use /dev/dvd1
[09:26] <Bauldrick> is there any way to remove DRM from m4p files without the use of iTunes itself?
[09:27] <Lynoure> dennister: kaffeine -> settings -> xine engine parametres
[09:27] <pteague> burn to cd, then rip the cd?
[09:27] <dennister> Lynoure: that won't work, i've tried it...that's why i'd like to try and edit xine's main config file
[09:27] <Lynoure> dennister: but if you too have a problem where the eject button won't work, I don't think that will fix it
[09:28] <dennister> i did it once a long time ago...
[09:28] <dennister> ok...no, the eject button does not want to work
[09:28] <Bauldrick> pteague: other than that, I've about 18GB to go through
[09:28] <dennister> oh wait, it is ejecting
[09:29] <stdin> we can't give support for potentially illegal activity (even if DRM sucks)
[09:30] <Bauldrick> teach me to pay for my music!!
[09:30] <pteague> teach you to buy DRMed music ;o)
[09:31] <dennister> oh well, was going to go to be a little while ago...definitely this time...
[09:31] <dennister> 'night all...will keep working on the problem in a few days
[09:31] <llutz> i tried to swap l/r stereo channels in alsa (gutsy,ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI ) according to http://tinyurl.com/23hv7g, but it takes no effect. Is there anything else to be done?
[09:32] <pteague> Bauldrick> who buys CDs anymore anyways? me... & none from sony... & only when they're older CDs & don't cost me a fortune cause it's the latest fad... that way i can rip them & reburn them so i can actually listen to them in my car ;)
[09:32] <pteague> although that's nearing impossible...  cd player only wants to let me start on track 1
[09:34] <noisekiller> !ati
[09:34] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:39] <noisekiller> that helped..
[09:44] <polysilicon> I am trying to compile rp-pppoe on Kubuntu 8.04 kde4, I am getting this error : C compiler cannot create executables.. which package I need to install? I already have gcc
[09:44] <Jucato> !build-essential | polysilicon
[09:44] <ubotu> polysilicon: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[09:47] <polysilicon> I am getting multiple access concentrators from pppoe-discovery. How to select an access-conncentator in pppoe?
[09:52] <sigma_1234> how do i mount a fstab mount in konsole?
[09:52] <llutz> sudo mount /mountpoint
[10:04] <busfahrer> Excuse me, why is the notification area not offering me to upgrade to Hardy? (Used to work fine I think)
[10:07] <santhosh_> hi..does anyone know how to enable the taskmanager in kubuntu-hardy...for some reason , i've seem to lost it
[10:10] <monkeybritches> Aww, and I was just about to tell him...
[10:12] <snikker> after upgrade to 8.04 all my ksplash screen are oversized... How can i restore this setting?
[10:12] <monkeybritches> Have you tried rebooting yet?
[10:14] <llutz>  i tried to swap  the stereo channels of my soundcard according to http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ#How_can_I_tell_ALSA_to_swap_the_left_and_right_stereo_channels_on_my_soundcard.3F , but after creating a ~/.asoundrc and a restart, channels still aren't swapped.  Is there anything else to be done? The system is kubuntu 7.10, alsa 1.0.14, card is ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI (sb16pci)
[10:15] <monkeybritches> Hmm, I don't know about that one... anyone?
[10:16] <dwidmann> llutz: did you add in the "pcm.default pcm.swapped" line?
[10:17] <llutz> dwidmann: i did
[10:19] <dwidmann> llutz: does it swap them if you force it by specifying the pcm.swapped device?
[10:20] <llutz> dwidmann: not at all
[10:26] <emy> hey there
[10:26] <emy> can anybody help me ?.. how to instal beryl on kubuntu hardy ?
[10:27] <emy> point me in the right direction or something :) pls
[10:27] <sigma_1234> !compiz
[10:27] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:27] <jussio1> !beryl | emy
[10:27] <ubotu> emy: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[10:27] <sigma_1234> use the desktop effects app
[10:28] <emy> !compiz
[10:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:29] <jam88> ïðèâåò íàðîä :)
[10:36] <yakuzi> does anyone know if i can use the same settings for dual screen in 8.04 as in 7.10? because if i follow the how-to's they tell me to change the xorg.conf file in section "screen", subsection "display" and add a line with virtual <some number> <some number> problem is, if i take a look at my xorg.conf, there is no subsection "display"..
[10:37] <dps> Hello all
[10:37] <dps> How can i stop the annoying pop-ups ok Kopete?
[10:37] <dps> Even if the chat window is active they still appear
[10:37] <dps> Can't find a place on the setup that stops it
[10:38] <hpk> hi all morgen
[10:39] <hpk> the german link please
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> !german
[10:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:39] <hpk> thanks
[10:39] <hpk> hallo morgen
[10:40] <hpk> gibts auch skype für kubunto ?
[10:40] <jussio1> hpk: not here, you neeed to type: /join #kubuntu-de
[10:41] <dps> Guy, anyone here uses kubuntu kde 4?
[10:41] <ere4si> !kde4
[10:41] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:41] <jussio1> dps: join #kubuntu-kde4
[10:41] <dps> Ok... thank you
[10:41] <ere4si> k]
[10:42] <cinex> hi
[10:42] <pteague> anybody know of any problems with the hardy version update?
[10:42] <cinex> pteague: I've not used it
[10:42] <pteague> !hardy > pteague
[10:42] <jussio1> pteague: many, depending on hw. whats your problem?
[10:43]  * jussio1 had no problems
[10:43] <pteague> nothing yet, just wanted to know what i might run into... any known issues with nvidia?
[10:44] <jussio1> pteague: i suggest you have a look on lp
[10:44] <pteague> k
[10:49] <dzekas> is there some site which allows to browse kubuntu translations?
[10:50] <dzekas> I need Lithuanian translation file for monitor & screen systemsettings
[10:52] <emilsedgh> dzekas: launchpad
[10:53] <emilsedgh> https://launchpad.net/
[10:53] <emilsedgh> !launchpad
[10:53] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:59] <andy_> Hello, I need some help with KUbuntu after upgrade. Some things that didn't work previously work now, but some other got broken.
[11:00] <andy_> One weird thing is that Psi ceased to work with GnuPG.
[11:06] <emy> !compiz
[11:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:07] <sstipic> part
[11:09] <andy_> !psi
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <andy_> OK, I'll be better off with forums I guess...
[11:10] <polysilicon> how to install ksynaptics?
[11:11] <cinex> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:11] <cinex> ?
[11:11] <_julian> hi all
[11:11] <_julian> are there packages for kernel 2.6.25 for kubuntu 8.04 somewhere? - actually I suffer under regular system freezes with 2.6.24
[11:12] <polysilicon> cinex, Package ksynaptics is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[11:12] <cinex> polysilicon: that tends to mean you need to add a repository
[11:12] <polysilicon> kubuntu- kde4
[11:13] <polysilicon> which repository?
[11:13] <Bauldrick> do i have to  use force  to mount a mac drive with read-write permissions?
[11:13] <cinex> beats me. you could try finding a .deb file on its website
[11:13] <cinex> or try compiling it
[11:13] <cinex> you'd have to google either way
[11:13] <polysilicon> hmm
[11:13] <cinex> maybe it isn't supported in kde4
[11:14] <_julian> no ideas about 2.6.25?
[11:14] <polysilicon> cinex, alas...
[11:15] <polysilicon> maybe
[11:15] <polysilicon> why should one use kde4 over kde3?
[11:15] <polysilicon> as far as the looks are concerned kde4 rocks
[11:16] <cinex> kde4 is very basic I'm finding
[11:16] <polysilicon> so you switched back to 3.5.9 ?
[11:16] <cinex> I'm going to get rid of it even
[11:16] <cinex> not yet. finding out how :P
[11:16] <vit> hello
[11:17] <cinex> hi
[11:17] <s4xxon>  hello, i am infront of a serious problem that i cant solve.i was using kubuntu (on a pretty working state the last 5-6 months). now i wanted to try kde4 . So before doing that i did a ghost image of my working kubuntu (i had also an image of a fresh installed kubuntu that i use to restore sometimes).
[11:17] <s4xxon>  finally i installed kde4, but as i didnt like it , i thought of restoring (with ghost) back to my last kubuntu state. and then the problems started
[11:18] <cinex>  hmm
[11:18] <s4xxon>  although the restoring completed succesfule (in both images that i had and tried to be sure) i was getting some inode errors. like "inode table 37472 conflicts with some other fs blocks . relocate ? (y/n) .
[11:18] <cinex> what problems ?
[11:18] <vit> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:18] <s4xxon>   i did press yes in more than 1000-2000 blocks , when i finally rebooted not even the grub load was able to load
[11:18] <s4xxon>  i formated to drive and tried again to restore the working image. again the same problem .
[11:18] <polysilicon> cinex, did you figure out how to roll back to 3.5.9?
[11:19] <s4xxon>  then i thought it could be the partition damaged, having some errors, checked for errors , nothing there. also installed (fresh install from a cd) succesfuly kubuntu on it just for a test
[11:19] <cinex> polysilicon: no. not yet. there may be a repository you can use to install it.
[11:19] <polysilicon> ok
[11:19] <s4xxon>  tried to restore again both images that i have and i know they are working as i did restore them a few months ago , but still the same problem
[11:19] <cinex> s4xxon: after you restore the image - is the data on the harddrive   ?
[11:19] <s4xxon> dont know how to fix it. or if it is a partition structure error and debian tries to fix it. any ideas ?
[11:19] <s4xxon> cinex, yes they are on the disk
[11:19] <s4xxon> also grub is working well
[11:19] <cinex> so its all installed it just wont boot ?
[11:20] <s4xxon> i see all dirs , and files that i got on my home dir.
[11:20] <s4xxon> it boots, i choose which kernel i want to load. but then it tells me i need to do a fsck
[11:20] <cinex> can you back them up to disk or memory card?
[11:20] <cinex> oh
[11:20] <cinex> well fsck'n is easy
[11:20] <s4xxon> and when i do that i get deferent inode and block errors and i am asked if i want to fix them . i do fix them . and after they are 'fixed' not even the boot loader starts
[11:20] <cinex> fsck /dev/
[11:21] <cinex> the boot loader can be fixed
[11:21] <s4xxon> yes , i got my data allready backed up. thats not a problem. the problem is that i want to restore the image as i got many apps installed, drivers , configurations and stuff like that
[11:21] <cinex> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:iEE-Xfyc0mQJ:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows+restore+grub+unbuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&client=opera
[11:22] <cinex> try doing that to restore grub
[11:22] <s4xxon> i just cant understand why restoring from an image doesnt work, when i know that i restored several times those images and worked.
[11:22] <level1> Hi, where does apt keep information on what cpu type (x86, ppc, x86-64, etc) I have?
[11:22] <cinex> i dunno s4xxon maybe your drive was damaged
[11:22] <s4xxon> no errors, i checked it. as i said , i installed fresh kubuntu on it just to test it
[11:22] <level1> Hi, where does apt keep information on what cpu type (x86, ppc, x86-64, etc) I have?
[11:23] <cinex> s4xxon: if you were to isntall ubuntu over the top you could keep all your files in $HOME you would just lose the apps - user-configurations would be kept though
[11:24] <cinex> assuming /home is on its own partition
[11:24] <s4xxon> i got also global configurations (and yes i got the whole home dir saved)
[11:25] <s4xxon> but as i said, there are many drivers also isntalled and config files configured
[11:25] <cinex> yes
[11:28] <cinex> polysilicon: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <cinex> works
[11:28] <cinex> which I'm sure i tried last night with no success
[11:28] <polysilicon> no success??
[11:28] <dwidmann> level1: I can't seem to find where it keeps it ... easier to figure out the architecture in use with "uname -m"
[11:29] <cinex> yeah, it didnt work last night
[11:29] <cinex> but did jsut now
[11:29] <polysilicon> cinex, for kde4 its kubuntu-kde-desktop
[11:29] <cinex> ahh
[11:29] <polysilicon> ok
[11:29] <dwidmann> polysilicon: you forgot the 4
[11:29] <polysilicon> yeah kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[11:29] <cinex> its soooooooo basic and uncustomisable
[11:30] <level1> dwidmann: actually, I wanted to change it... I know thats a no-no, but I'm just poking around
[11:30] <dps> I think i'm going to enjoy see the face of my boss when he found out the new 10k€ file server as Linux
[11:30] <polysilicon> just wondering how much is the % of users with kde4?
[11:30] <dps> I'm gonna get fired!
[11:30] <dwidmann> level1: can't really say I'd recommend even trying to change it, that's sooooooo screw things up I bet.
[11:30] <dps> YES!
[11:30] <dwidmann> dps: yay
[11:30] <Minnozz> Hi, I'm still having problems with my soundcard, I think the driver doesn't work on 64 bits Linux... Does anybody know where to get a good driver, of maybe anoter solution?
[11:31] <dwidmann> dps: sounds like fun
[11:31] <level1> dps: why would you get fired for that?  If hes really pissed just install IIS
[11:31] <dwidmann> Minnozz: which card?
[11:31] <Neo_4583> Please
[11:32] <dps> Well... He was MAD when installed a redundant pfsende bds solution
[11:32] <dps> Insted of the cisco€€€€
[11:32] <Minnozz> dwidmann: It's the onboard sound chip of my motherboard (ASUS P5B Deluxe WIFI/AP), lspci says 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:32] <dps> But its working...
[11:32] <Neo_4583> does ubuntu support NTFS
[11:32] <cinex> still no joy for my broadcom wifi card either
[11:32] <dps> !NTFS
[11:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[11:32] <dwidmann> Minnozz: is the "snd_intel8x0" driver loaded?
[11:32] <level1> every sound card in the world is "Intel Corporation HD Audio Controller" lol
[11:32] <polysilicon> cinex, so you are going to stay with kde3 only..
[11:33] <level1> its probably a realtek
[11:33] <Minnozz> dwidmann: not that exact name, but I do have "snd_hda_intel" loaded
[11:33] <cinex> polysilicon: I will keep it installed and keep checking on its progress
[11:33] <cinex> hopeing someone creates a normal kmenu for it
[11:33] <polysilicon> good idea
[11:33] <dwidmann> Minnozz:  ah, oops, I missed the last bit, so that should be the right one
[11:34] <dwidmann> Minnozz: (always requisite) none of the sound channels are muted, and they're all set to at least 75% rigth?
[11:34] <Jucato> cinex: normal kmenu for what?
[11:34] <cinex> kde4
[11:34] <Minnozz> dwidmann: I'm pretty sure it's a driver problem, KMix doesn't see anything and Amarok gives an error when I start it
[11:34] <Jucato> you mean the old style kmenu?
[11:35] <cinex> yeah, the "old style"
[11:35] <Jucato> cinex: it's already there. look at the Application Launcher Menu applet. #kubuntu-kde4 for more help
[11:35] <Minnozz> dwidmann: So I can't even mute channels, change volume etc.
[11:35] <cinex> is it? I googled around and found nothing
[11:35] <dwidmann> Minnozz: hmm, kay
[11:35] <Jucato> cinex:  and in KDE 4.1, it will be easier, you can just right-click on the icon to switch styles
[11:36] <polysilicon> cinex, on my laptop 7.10 was working out of the box, here in kde4 nothing is working no sound/no multimedia keys
[11:36] <cinex> brb
[11:37] <Neo_4583> Please, Can any one reply to me please
[11:37] <Minnozz> dwidmann: KMix says 'mixer cannot be found' and alsamixer says 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory'
[11:37]  * dwidmann hops off to download kde4 svn because he is too impatient to wait for kde 4.1
[11:37] <Neo_4583> I need to know if the ubuntu support NTFS or not
[11:37] <Neo_4583> I need to install Ubunt beside windows
[11:37] <Minnozz> Neo_4583: It does
[11:37] <Neo_4583> Ok, does it require clean partiion
[11:37] <Jucato> !ntfs | Neo_4583
[11:37] <ubotu> Neo_4583: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[11:37] <Neo_4583> ext2 or ext3
[11:38]  * polysilicon downgrading to kde 3.5.9 : 2 hours 45 minutes remaining...
[11:38] <Jucato> Neo_4583: you need to use a Linux-type partition to install Kubuntu on. you can't use NTFS. but you can read/write to NTFS partitions from Kubuntu
[11:38] <cinex> re
[11:38] <Neo_4583> I know that it support most of the files system, what I ment is Does it work if it is installed
[11:38] <dwidmann> Minnozz: yeah ... dunno why it wouldn't be seeing it even though the driver is loaded and such, take a look at your /var/log/dmesg maybe it has some hints in there
[11:38] <Neo_4583> on NTFS partion
[11:38] <Jucato> Neo_4583: no
[11:38] <Jucato> Neo_4583: alternatively, you can try out Wubi
[11:38] <Neo_4583> Ok, Thanks a lot guys
[11:38] <Bauldrick> !NTFS-3g
[11:38] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:39] <Jucato> Neo_4583: Wubi will install Kubuntu as a "file" in an NTFS partition
[11:39] <Neo_4583> one more question, do anyone have referance for the objective C
[11:39] <dwidmann> Why would someone want to try to install linux on an NTFS FS anyway?? ... it's inferior.
[11:39] <Neo_4583> that is installed with Ubunt KDeveloper
[11:39] <Minnozz> dwidmann: dmesg has an interesting line: "[ 3136.761581] HDA Intel: probe of 0000:00:1b.0 failed with error -16"
[11:39] <Neo_4583> I have my own reasons :D
[11:39] <flaccid> dwidmann: its so people do not to modify their existing partitions/windows
[11:39] <Neo_4583> I used VM to install linux and I wanna have it on HD, so I though it will be nice to have it with the other files
[11:40] <flaccid> +need
[11:40] <Neo_4583> Great Flaccid ;)
[11:40] <Neo_4583> u got the point
[11:40] <flaccid> lol yeah
[11:40] <dwidmann> Minnozz: interesting indeed. Looks like something good to google withh
 Neo_4583: Wubi will install Kubuntu as a "file" in an NTFS partition <---- you mean I didn't get the point?
[11:41] <Jucato> !wubi | Neo_4583
[11:41] <ubotu> Neo_4583: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.
[11:41] <Minnozz> dwidmann: already doing that ;)
[11:41] <Neo_4583> is there any hardware designed for the ubuntu
[11:42] <dwidmann> Minnozz: anyhow, I *doubt* it is 64-bit related, both this computer and my laptop are functioning very well with two different intel hda chips with 64-bit kubuntu :)
[11:42] <Neo_4583> to maximize the performance of the hardware
[11:42] <dwidmann> Neo_4583: not that I know of, but ubuntu performs really well already, if you want to boost performance the best thing you can do is make sure you have plenty of RAM
[11:42] <Minnozz> dwidmann: Hmm okay, but then I'm not sure what is te problem, because before the clean install (I was using Gutsy) my soundcard worked perfectly...
[11:43] <Neo_4583> I have 2 G, does it Ok with it
[11:43] <Neo_4583> AMD Athlon 4000+ x2
[11:43] <dwidmann> Minnozz: could be an issue with either ALSA or the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[11:44] <Minnozz> dwidmann: any idea on how to fix this?
[11:44] <vlt> Hello. I want to run the live CD via PXE netboot. Is this possible?
[11:44] <Minnozz> maybe another version of the ALSA driver?
[11:45] <Neo_4583> I think it will work fine, thanks for ur help guys
[11:45] <dwidmann> Minnozz: well, narrowing down the problem might not be too easy. I would start with googling either your motherboard model (if you know what it is) or computer model (if you have no idea) and see if you can find out which chip it is
[11:46] <Minnozz> dwidmann: the chip is "ADI AD1988B"
[11:46] <dwidmann> Minnozz: okay, I'll help you look for issues with it then, off to google we go :)
[11:47] <Minnozz> dwidmann: thank you for helping me :)
[11:47] <dwidmann> Minnozz: google "adi ad1988b ubuntu hardy" to see what I see.
[11:48] <wesley> how can i add a patch .patch to the exsting kernel
[11:49] <dwidmann> !install | vlt
[11:49] <ubotu> vlt: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[11:50] <Trophyhead> **sigh** having such a prob with the nvidia 3d acellerator package, second time I reboot, it reads the moniter different & tremulos no-longer works = (
[11:51] <ere4si> !nvidia
[11:51] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:52] <Minnozz> dwidmann: I see something about a kernel option, should I try that?
[11:53] <dwidmann> Minnozz: of course, If I were in your shoes I'd be trying anything and everything to make things work :)
[11:53] <Minnozz> yeah, guess so ;)
[11:54] <Minnozz> dwidmann: I'm not really sure what kind of option that is, is it a boot option?
[11:54] <dwidmann> Not sure what you're looking at, atm, minozz, what is the option and maybe I'll be able to tell right off?
[11:55] <Minnozz> dwidmann: ah sorry, I meant "pnpacpi=off"
[11:56] <cinex> umm. the desktop just crashed kinda - the taskbar disapeared. i ran kicker and it has the old kde3 taskbar come up - was I supposed to run something else ?
[11:56] <Jucato> you weren't supposed to run kicker :)
[11:56] <cinex> heh
[11:56] <Jucato> there's no kicker in KDE 4. #kubuntu-kde4 for more help
[11:56] <Jucato> (which I pointed to earlier)
[11:56] <cinex> kk
[11:56] <dwidmann> Minnozz: when booting, at grub, press 'e' on the line you're going to boot, go to the line starting with "kernel" and press 'e' again, add that option to the very end of the line and press enter, then press 'b' to boot
[11:56] <cinex> sorry
[11:57] <cinex> I've a new toy
[11:57] <Minnozz> dwidmann: thanks a lot, I'm going to try it right away, brb
[11:57] <dwidmann> cinex: you were supposed to run plasma
[12:00] <chris__> salve
[12:00] <Minnozz> dwidmann: Yaay, this worked! Thanks a lot!
[12:01] <dwidmann> Minnozz: no problem :)
[12:01] <Minnozz> dwidmann: GRUB didn't save this option, right?
[12:01] <dwidmann> Minnozz: right
[12:02] <Bauldrick> how do i mount hfsplus with write permissions?
[12:02] <dwidmann> Minnozz: kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:02] <Minnozz> dwidmann: where should I edit? (btw, I'm using vim)
[12:03] <Minnozz> between the double-commented lines?
[12:03] <dwidmann> Minnozz: ctrl+f look for "defoptions" -- add it to that, save, and run "sudo update-grub"
[12:04] <dwidmann> Minnozz: yay for vim!
[12:05] <Minnozz> dwidmann: indeed :D I edited it, ran the update, so now everything should be fine... thanks again! ;)
[12:06] <dwidmann> Minnozz: enjoy your working soundcard
[12:06] <Minnozz> I will ^_^
[12:21] <esperegu> I can't seem to use smb://fileserver no more. it is saying that it does not exist. any idea's?
[12:22] <dam> hello everyone I was wondering if it was possible to change file managers ?
[12:23] <stefan-f> hello all:)
[12:23] <stefan-f> I cab I use partimage at runtime?
[12:24] <stefan-f> can I use partimage at runtime?
[12:26] <dam> hello everyone I was wondering if it was possible to change file managers ?
[12:29] <esperegu> nobody has smb problems after upgrading to 0804 ?
[12:37] <ere4si> nope - I use nfs
[12:47] <LetsGo67> For updating from Gusty to Hardy, can I do the clean-up later?
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> LetsGo67: you mean removing the downloaded packages?
[12:49] <LetsGo67> Yes, SmileyPete..
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> LetsGo67: yes, you can
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> I had to do that myself because Adept crashed
[12:50] <LetsGo67> So, I can sudo apt-get clean, and it will clean l8r?
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> I just did "sudo apt-get clean" after I booted Hardy
[12:51] <LetsGo67> Good stuff, SmileyPete.
[12:51] <LetsGo67> My gui looked all weird for a second during updating.
[12:51] <LetsGo67> Firefox icon missing.
[12:52] <LetsGo67> BTW, in Breezy, Firefox icon had no Firefox, did Canonical get permission to use the image in later releases?
[12:53] <LetsGo67> Firefox icon in Ubuntu used to be just a globe, but later, a fox was added.
[12:56] <LetsGo67> Thanks man, ttyl.
[12:57] <chris123> greets
[12:57] <chris123> was wondering if anyone is available to help with firefox issues?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> depends on the issue. :)
[12:57] <chris123> thanks
[12:58] <chris123> dropped back to firefox-2 to get extensions I need and I cannot install any extensions at all
[12:58] <chris123> the error message is always the same
[12:58] <chris123>  var installLocation = this._em.getInstallLocation(id);
[12:58] <esperegu> anyone knows how to fix that using 'smb://' is broken on 0804 ?
[12:58] <chris123> the above line comes back as being the source of the error
[12:59] <chris123> me thinks the is an Kubuntu config error as both firefox (defaulting to 3) and firefox-2 are available
[12:59] <kirean> hi
[13:00] <chris123> but I have no idea on how to change it or too what?..:)
[13:00] <kirean> I'm running kubuntu in vmware, but I no longer have any internet access/connection.
[13:00] <kirean> where do I start looking?
[13:00] <kirean> for what?
[13:01] <Dr_willis> esperegu,  ive seen it break. then it works when i next reboot.. then works for a few days, then stops again.. very annoying. even under gnome, and fusesmb  all samba browsing/shares will  stop working but i cant find the cause.
[13:02] <Dr_willis> I use the daily tester tools for Firefox3 - that lets me use all the extensions i want in firefox3 even if they are not 'supported' in FF3. :) and golly.. most of them work. heh
[13:02] <ngi> hi all
[13:02] <DexterF> in 7.10 kdm usually comes up with the wrong resolution. after logging in kde switches to the proper res, but not always. known bug?
[13:03] <ngi> is there anybody who could help me to upgrade my kubuntu from 6.10 to 8.04?
[13:03] <chris123> "daily tester tools"....where can I read up on that?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> a user can have their own res under kde. It mayjust be reading that to swith res.
[13:03] <Dr_willis> chris123,  its a firefox extension.
 thanks
[13:07] <esperegu> Dr_willis: seems to be broken on ubuntu also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/209520
[13:10] <fildo> !nvidia
[13:10] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:15] <Dr_willis> esperegu,  try it with the fusesmb tool. even THAT wouldent work for me.
[13:15] <mimmors> Ciao a tutti
[13:15] <mimmors> ho un enorme problema
[13:16] <mimmors> stavo aggiornando kubuntu 7.10 a 8.04
[13:16] <mimmors> e ho interrotto per errore l'upgrade
[13:16] <Dr_willis> great - now the printer printed one page.. then wont print no more.
[13:17] <Jucato> !it | mimmors
[13:17] <ubotu> mimmors: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:17] <mimmors> ok grazie
[13:24] <basy> hi, all... I want to buy TV card, can anybody give me some tips with good support for Kubuntu, plz?
[13:26] <Dr_willis> basy,  check out the reccomended cards on the MythTV web site.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> its all about how well LINUX supports the card. :) not kubuntu specific
[13:27] <christian> hi there
[13:27] <basy> thanks
[13:28] <christian> i need some help, i got a failure at the boot up with ubuntu 8.04 i386
[13:28] <christian> its called SRST Failure (errno=16)
[13:29] <christian> its only on the i386 version, the 64bit version runs perfect
[13:29] <christian> does anybody here what to do?
[13:32] <christian> nobody?
[13:34] <giacomo> !it
[13:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:34] <moope1> hi, is the KDE4 remix worth the effort?
[13:35] <khaleel5000> hello, whats the difference between kubuntu and  kubuntu generic ? [in download mirror , i see 2 versions for i386, the kubuntu generic and kubuntu so whats the difference?
[13:35] <khaleel5000> for hardy heron
[13:38] <Dr_willis> moope1,  not really.
[13:38] <Dr_willis> one may be the kde4 variant khaleel5000 .
[13:38] <Jucato> moope1: for KDE 4.0.3? not really... unless you're really curious and willing. you might want to ask more in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:39] <khaleel5000> which is the 3x varient ?
[13:39] <khaleel5000> which is the kde* 3x varient ?
[13:40] <Jucato> khaleel5000: link to the download mirror you are talking about?
[13:41] <gabberz92> hallo
[13:41] <gabberz92> wie gehts euich?
[13:42] <funcrush> Can i sync google calendar with kontact?
[13:42] <khaleel5000> Jucato: rafb.net/p/rfcj6a20
[13:43] <khaleel5000> the link is there [i am in cli giving ftp would be difficult,
[13:43] <khaleel5000> ftp is pasted there
[13:43] <Jucato> khaleel5000: not found on server
[13:44] <khaleel5000> Jucato: rafb.net/p/rfcj6a20.html               :)
[13:44] <Jucato> still not found...
[13:46] <Jucato> ok found it
[13:46] <Jucato> khaleel5000: for reference, the URL is case sensitive: http://www.rafb.net/p/rFcJ6a20.html
[13:47] <Jucato> khaleel5000: I don't see any "generic" download there
[13:47] <khaleel5000> yup that
[13:47] <khaleel5000> go to the link
[13:47] <Jucato> khaleel5000: only alternate and desktop variants. no generic and non-generic
[13:48] <khaleel5000> oh yeah sorry alterneate
[13:48] <khaleel5000> (i am asking on behalf of someone else,
[13:48] <khaleel5000> sorry
[13:49] <Jucato> !alternate
[13:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[13:49] <khaleel5000> alternate and desktop , whats the different
[13:49] <Jucato> !livecd
[13:49] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[13:49] <Jucato> khaleel5000: ^^^^^^^
[13:50] <khaleel5000> I have installed kubuntu hardy heron-alternate but the problem is at booting , after some time it shows a blank screen (prolly when it should startx) and all I can do is reboot :(
[13:50] <flipstar> why is this bot linking to an gnome cd in this channel oO
[13:51] <Jucato> flipstar: because it's a generic bot. depends on where the factoid was first made
[13:52] <khaleel5000> my system is intel  p4 2.66, 1gb , mobo is Mercury P4vm800m7 (already runing pclinux 2006, debian etch and also ran ubuntu 6x on this system
[13:52] <flipstar> okay..but you could make it channel specific ;)
[13:52] <Jucato> sure. but that only happens when someone notices that it was wrong. we don't know *all* factoids you know
[13:52] <Jucato> we're not ubotu
[13:53] <flipstar> no offense i just wondered
[13:53] <Jucato> I forgot to :P btw
[13:53] <Jucato> so :P
[13:54] <jussio1> Jucato: speak for yourself :P
[13:55] <flipstar> khaleel5000: did you tried an livecd before installed ? and btw what's your graphic card ?
[13:56] <Jucato> !alternate | flipstar and jussio1
[13:56] <ubotu> flipstar and jussio1: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[13:56] <flipstar> great :)
[13:57] <Jucato> happy now? :)
[13:57] <flipstar> very :p
[13:57] <Jucato> jussio1: ok. from now on, I'm calling you jussiobotu :)
[13:58]  * jussio1 huggles Jucato
[13:58] <Jucato> :D
[14:00] <Romnous> bai
[14:03] <terrestre> someone have a comand for delete the complete ubuntu desktop, i tried sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop but i still have a lot of gnome apps
[14:03] <Jucato> !purekde | terrestre
[14:03] <ubotu> terrestre: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[14:03] <turtleneck> all the login manager options grayed out in 8.04 KDE4, am i doing something wrong?
[14:05] <terrestre> Jucato, thank you, the list ofr gusty could be usable in hardy?
[14:05] <Jucato> not really sure :)
[14:06] <edneymatias> why i can't specify a 64/128 wep key in network manager?
[14:06] <edneymatias> or it doesn't matter at all?
[14:06] <terrestre> Jucato, i will check now
[14:06] <edneymatias> i just can't connect to my wireless ap
[14:08] <edneymatias> dmesg keeps outputing wlan0: RX deauthentication from MY:AP:MC:AD:DR (reason=2)
[14:09] <edneymatias> i running kubuntu hardy amd64 with iwl3945 driver
[14:10] <edneymatias> no one know where i can start looking for?
[14:10] <khaleel5000> hello , i have hardy heron , i was having touble starting system (it froze before starting X , so i copied my xorg.conf from pclinux2008 to kubunto and its working flawlessly except my mouse isint working.
[14:11] <khaleel5000> how do i configure mouse on kubuntu?
[14:18] <khaleel5000> !mouse
[14:18] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[14:19] <jony_> does anyone here experience slow window resizing?
[14:19]  * polysilicon is happy with kde 3.5.9 !
[14:20] <jony_> because mine is terribly slow :S
[14:23] <jony_> not a common problem?
[14:24] <kirean> anyone here into problems with IPv6? I tried the blacklist ipv6 and that got rid of the error messages
[14:24] <kirean> but I still got no internet
[14:24] <kirean> sudo dhclient does get me online though
[14:25] <flipstar> !ipv6
[14:25] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[14:26] <kirean> it seems ipv6 is disabled now..
[14:26] <kirean> ip a | grep inet6 gives nothing now
[14:26] <kirean> but unless I run dhclient manually I still get no internet? why?
[14:27] <_eMaX_> strange problem here - had a crash running kde4 and compiz (unrelated to compiz) and when I rebooted and logged in I get a crash of kde-window-decorator immediately. When I try compiz --replace, I get the window manager in a "window".
[14:28] <polysilicon> where are the desktop effects?? like compiz. I am unable to see then in 'System settings'
[14:28] <jpatrick> polysilicon: it's in the kmenu under system
[14:30] <polysilicon> ohh I thought its already packaged in kubuntu-desktop
[14:30] <polysilicon> I need to download some files again
[14:31] <edneymatias> does networkmanager have a config file where i cant set the encryption methodo?
[14:32] <edneymatias> does supported encryption depends on wirelless device or device driver?
[14:32] <edneymatias> if so ...does networkmanager load the encryption methods accordly?
[14:33] <edneymatias> why in on machine with ubuntu the network lists 5+ encryption methods and in my machine with kubuntu it lists only 3?
[14:33] <kirean> can anyone help with why I need to run dhclient manually to get online?
[14:33] <edneymatias> the machines are equal...with the same hardware
[14:34] <edneymatias> one with ubuntu other with kubuntu
[14:34] <edneymatias> why does i have to listen from my coleagues that the problem is with kde?
[14:34] <edneymatias> :D
[14:38] <jony_> does anyone know hoe to get rid of the resize window lag?
[14:38] <SlimeyPete> jony_: lag? Sounds like you graphics driver's not up to snuff
[14:42] <jony_> where can i find which version im running SlimeyPete?
[14:42] <kirean> where do I find the control center / why don't I have a control center?
[14:43] <jony_> have u looked in the startmenu?
[14:44] <kirean> yep.. can't find it
[14:44] <kirean> can I run it manually?
[14:44] <jony_> write in the console Kcontrol
[14:44] <kirean> hmm. not there
[14:45] <jony_> sorry i meant command
[14:45] <Jucato> kirean: in Kubuntu it is replaced by System Settings
[14:45] <Jucato> you can still run KControl yourself. press Alt+F2 and type "kcontrol"
[14:45] <kirean> it wasn't there?
[14:46] <Jucato> huh?
[14:46] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings
[14:47] <kirean> I found system settings..
[14:47] <kirean> but no KControl, neither by Alt+F2
[14:47] <aerith> Hello. Is it just me or is rt73 support a little buggy in 8.04?
[14:48] <Gabz> aerith:  new drivers in 8.04
[14:48] <Gabz> the serialmonkey drivers where added
[14:48] <Jucato> kirean: KDE 4?
[14:48] <kirean> yep
[14:49] <Jucato> kirean: ah right... no more KControl in KDE 4
[14:49] <Jucato> completely replaced by System Settings (same contents though)
[14:49] <aerith> Gabz: Is there any way to improve preformance that you know of?
[14:49] <Jucato> same contents, just different interface
[14:49] <kirean> hmm.. I wan't to look at DHCP settings
[14:50] <kirean> but there is no useful settings to be found anywhere?
[14:50] <Gabz> aerith: latest cvs version of the drivers. newer kernel.. the 2.6.24 kernel sucks for wireless drivers they updated the intel ones and broke those aswell
[14:50] <Jucato> kirean: I don't think there is any at all. try asking in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:50] <aerith> Gabz: Sounds like I might be better off with 7.10 in regards to wireless.:)
[14:50] <kirean> ok, thanks
[14:51] <Gabz> aerith:  maybe, what's the problem with the rt73 driver ?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:52] <aerith> Gabz: Under 8.04 I get alot of dead connections with my linksys wireless adapter.
[14:53] <aerith> Gabz: I mean connections that register but do not do anyhting at all.
[14:53] <Gabz> check out dmesg to see if there is errors in there. and if they are WPA enterprise connections you probably want to install and patch the latest driver
[14:54] <Gabz> aerith:  got to fly it's bed time in aus
[14:54] <aerith> Gabz: Just connecting to an unsecured network, but will check Dmesg thanks.
[14:56] <BluesKaj> 'morning genii, jpatrick
[14:56] <genii> BluesKaj: Mornin :)
[14:56] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: mornin'
[14:57]  * BluesKaj hands out coffees to those in need
[14:58]  * genii sips
[14:59] <BluesKaj> interesting , I got kaffeine to play both real media and quicktime on the CBC site
[15:01] <polysilicon> is there any way by which I can select the Compiz effects to be run? in System>Desktop Effects I have only 4 options
[15:01] <polysilicon> I mean select individual effects..
[15:01] <BluesKaj> is this a new capapbility for kaffeine , or have I been struggling with real media quicktime all this time for no reason ?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> real media & quicktime
[15:03] <BluesKaj> or is it a 'wrapper' that the website uses
[15:03] <Deepthought> polysilicon: you have to install 'advanced desktop settings'  with synaptic, then you get acces to all the goodies
[15:04] <Deepthought> polysilicon: if you have ati or nvidia card, you also need restricted driver for it to work
[15:05] <polysilicon> Deepthought, ok I have Intel
[15:05] <Deepthought> polysilicon: should work
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, I'm quite impressed with the Hardy ATI restricted driver version , does 3D and DRI exceptionally well compared to previous efforts.
[15:06] <Bauldrick> am i right that you can't mount hfs+ read-writeable with kernels > 2.6.15?
[15:08] <polysilicon> is Adept same as synaptic?
[15:08] <algyz> How combine multiple files from one folder, they have .001, .002... .007 name, and there's .crc file? It is splitted .mkv file
[15:08] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: wouldn' t know, am totally nvidia minded, upgraded from tnt2 to gefoce 2 to 3 to 4200 to 5200 to 7900 GS
[15:08] <BluesKaj> ahhh, a gamer
[15:08] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: but what to do with all teh old cards ?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> put 'em on ebay ?
[15:09] <genii> polysilicon: The end result is the same. Although strictly speaking they are not the same same
[15:10] <cossidhon> #plasma
[15:10] <polysilicon> okk
[15:10] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: not only; though I must confess keeping my windoze around to kill some VC in the jungle, some aliens on Xen and spiders in the halflife-lab and racing at night in frisco from time to time..
[15:11] <BluesKaj> algyz, dunno for sure but mencoder can join files together and avimerge can as well. mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi -o outputfile.avi
[15:11] <algyz> Okay, thanks for idea
[15:11] <algyz> avidemux maybe?
[15:11] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: don' t trust internet biz
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, i heard the new GTA is already in the torrents
[15:12] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: have a second rig in bedroom to play in the old settings on the last card; no more rooms though...   GTA is the newest driver or what ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> algyz, mencoder especially does agood job
[15:13] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: Oh wait, Grand Theft Auto
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, join us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:14] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: not to sure about that, to complicated, prefer just driving and oversterring and upgrading tires & engine and stuff
[15:14] <algyz> BluesKaj:  in command line?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> yes algyz
[15:15] <stdin> Japy|Gaming: we don't care
[15:16] <Deepthought> sorry, don' t get all worked up... it's a use of the system at any rate too...
[15:17] <Deepthought> needs all sorts of complicated stuff too...
[15:17] <BluesKaj> algyz, here's an explanation http://www.misterhowto.com/index.php?category=Computers&subcategory=Video&article=join_with_mencoder
[15:17] <algyz> thx
[15:22] <BluesKaj> algyz, I would also investigate ffmpeg . I believe it can convert .mkv files too
[15:27] <berkes> does anyone know how I can make kubuntu rebuild my /etc/fstab?
[15:28] <berkes> the upgrade broke my swap (happens every update, since the uuid was introduced)
[15:30] <algyz> Any way easy mount UFS file system?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> berkes, you can edit partitions using gparted , it will fix your swap and fstab . Highly recommended for resizing and reformatting as well
[15:34] <berkes> BluesKaj: thx. I haved qtparted,but will apt the gnome one/ :)
[15:35] <Deepthought> so where = U ? I'm curious too
[15:35] <stdin> berkes: there's no need, they are both GUIs to the parted app
[15:36] <berkes> stdin: but doe they write changes to the fstab?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> berkes, it's saved me a few times
[15:36] <stdin> berkes: neither do afaik
[15:37] <berkes> arghh. the latest 8.04 uses sda rather then hda again.... grrr
[15:37] <BluesKaj> berkes, I see hda on my partitions
[15:38] <berkes> BluesKaj:  fdisk -l shows me sda. guess Iĺl need to hand-edit fstab again.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> I just looked in system settings/disks and file systems
[15:41] <BluesKaj> stdin, how does a clean install screw up fstab .. ?
[15:41] <Deepthought> anyone have a clue to converting to mtv format in linux (the movie format chi-pods use, also amv)
[15:42] <stdin> BluesKaj: not a clue
[15:42] <chi_> hi all, i am "waiting for root file system" at boot-time ... seems like kubuntu mixes up sda sdb and UUIDs ... help
[15:43] <freddy> español
[15:43] <stdin> !es
[15:43] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:46] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: maybe on wine with the proprietary prog, afeter installign all teh codecs (dyslexia    rhaaaa !)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, checkout ffmpeg and mencoder ...they seem to be the most versatile video conversion apps around , unless you prefer GUI's.
[15:48] <ubuntu_> Hello
[15:48] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: I know, tried, but doesn' t do the trick; they's pretty awkward formats; mtv appears to be a chan of jpegs, doesn't make sense, but functions well
[15:48] <Deepthought> amv is different, more like mpeg
[15:48] <Deepthought> chain
[15:49] <BluesKaj> are there any windows apps that might work , if you're dual booting
[15:50] <Deepthought> BluesKaj:  ????
[15:50] <BluesKaj> something that works in both after conversion
[15:51] <inavat> is it possible to set it up so that one user logs into KDE while another one logs into Gnome?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> both windows and linux like mpg
[15:51] <Dr_willis> inavat,  trivial.. the KDM/GDM login screen has a menu the users can select what desktop to use
[15:51] <BluesKaj> inavat, at the login menu
[15:51] <inavat> oh.. lol
[15:51] <inavat> sorry
[15:55] <Japy|Shopping> stdin?
[15:55] <stdin> yes?
[15:55] <Japy|Shopping> whats wrong on changing my nick when i go afk -_-
[15:55] <stdin> !away > Japy|Shopping (see /msg from ubotu)
[15:56] <Dr_willis> its annoying and pointless. :)
[15:56] <Deepthought> anyone have a clue to how to keep caht-memberlist from reappearing after each login in kopete ?   I allways tick it away, but each new instance it's ther e again; want it gone, all the time.. don't need it, unless I ask for it... don' t telll me to use Kommunicator, it' s like kopete, but not enough, and I want to keep track of other IM accounts as well
[15:56] <Deepthought> chat meber list I mean
[15:57] <Japy|Shopping> stdin: then i better part #kubuntu, you're the only one whining about it and there are channels where it's preferred in the way i do it. good luck :) i was here to help people, not to get in a pointless fight about manners...
[15:58] <edneymatias> hi! where do i go if i want kde4 support?
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> #kubuntu-kde4
[15:58] <edneymatias> thank you!
[15:59] <BluesKaj> I use an IRC client for IRC ...aN IM client for IM ...those clients that try to do everything are just too frutrating IMO
[16:00] <BluesKaj> <--- old school , use the right tools for the job
[16:01]  * nosrednaekim likes Old school stuff :)
[16:01] <nosrednaekim> hugs BluesKaj
[16:03] <edneymatias> just to add...i managed to get my wireless working
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> good
[16:05] <edneymatias> thank you all!
[16:08] <tortoisehead> is there a way to disable all the "so and so has left this server" "so and so has joined" stuff?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> tortoisehead, which client ?
[16:10] <uisrael> español
[16:10] <BluesKaj> !es
[16:10] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:10] <tortoisehead> konversation
[16:10] <tortoisehead> i see the list under the settings that allows me to set programs and things to happen when the things come up
[16:10] <fdoving> tortoisehead: settings -> configure konversation -> behavior -> chat window -> hide join/part/nick events. or something.
[16:11] <tortoisehead> but i want to just only see conversation, not renaming, sign in, sign out
[16:11] <tortoisehead> hmm
[16:11] <tortoisehead> hold on, i might have missed it
[16:11] <BluesKaj> tortoisehead, settings/configure konverstaion/chat window ..there's an option for hiding joins and part
[16:11] <tortoisehead> wah, thanks
[16:12] <rickey> ok guy,s my adept installer has crashed and locked up , what the fix
[16:12] <hpk> hi all
[16:12] <tortoisehead> is there a lock in var?
[16:12] <genii> !aptfix
[16:12] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:12] <tortoisehead> beat me to it
[16:12] <tortoisehead> haha
[16:12] <genii> tortoisehead: :)
[16:18] <tortoisehead> while i'm here, i have a very strange question
[16:19] <tortoisehead> i have a partition that keeps disappearing every time i log on
[16:19] <tortoisehead> where all of my data is stored
[16:19] <tortoisehead> i'm looking at the system settigns disk usage
[16:19] <tortoisehead> and it says that it should be enabled at boot
[16:19] <tortoisehead> and mountable by any user
[16:20] <tortoisehead> will just turning it to "allow only root to enable/disable" fix the problem?
[16:20] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: you have it mounted as /home or something?
[16:20] <nosrednaekim> what does mount say?
[16:20] <Limbeaux> a few months back i was trying to use kde4 in kubuntu and was having problems and was told by someone in here that the kde4 implementation wasnt fully complete and that is why some apps werent working.
[16:21] <tortoisehead> mount is ok now
[16:21] <Limbeaux> What is the status of kde4 and kubuntu now?
[16:21] <tortoisehead> it's currently mounted, but it's just when i log on it's not there
[16:21] <tortoisehead> "home/name/storage"
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: oh.... don't mount things there....
[16:22] <tortoisehead> hmm
[16:22] <tortoisehead> i assumed it was just a frontend for mount
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Limbeaux, you can install a mixer version , Hardy +KDE4
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> Limbeaux: in hardy, it works very well
[16:22] <tortoisehead> hold on, i'll double check what mount says
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> well, as well as KDe 4.0 should work :P
[16:23] <tortoisehead> mount lists is right now
[16:23] <tortoisehead> so it seems to have worked for that time
[16:23] <tortoisehead> do i have to change fstab to make it permanent?
[16:23] <Minnozz> what's up with the font in Firefox 3 @ Hardy Heron? Monospace looks really weird (light greay and small)
[16:23] <Minnozz> *fonts
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> can I see thr output of mount... and the contents of the fstab
[16:23] <Limbeaux> thanks!!  i will give a shot again soon
[16:24] <tortoisehead> is there a pastebin i should use?
[16:24] <tortoisehead> or do you just want to see that one line?
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[16:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:25] <tortoisehead> that one line is "/dev/sda6 on /home/scott/garden type ext3 (rw)"
[16:25] <tortoisehead> but i can do that too
[16:25] <tortoisehead> haha
[16:26] <tortoisehead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64878/
[16:27] <tortoisehead> that's bash
[16:27] <tortoisehead> er
[16:27] <tortoisehead> mount
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: ok, what about the contents of your fstab?
[16:27] <tortoisehead> next is fstab
[16:28] <tortoisehead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64879/
[16:29] <ubuntu> lol
[16:29] <ubuntu__> love
[16:29] <polysilicon> how to enable vertical, horiz, circular scrolling on synaptic touchpad?
[16:30] <tortoisehead> i'm guessing it's the nouser thing?
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: any reason you are mounting to /home/scott in particular?
[16:31] <tortoisehead> well, it was an accident during the reinstall, to be honest
[16:31] <tortoisehead> i couldn't remember the mount point
[16:31] <tortoisehead> haha
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: :) ok, then change that to /media/something and save the file
[16:32] <tortoisehead> hmm
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> I don't think you are supposed to be mounting things in /home
[16:32] <tortoisehead> any reason?
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> and then do "sudo mkdir /media/samesomething"
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: because then it only belongs to that user... despite the current permissions on the drive (I think)
[16:32] <Minnozz> anyone else having problems with weird monospace fonts in Firefox 3 ?
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> that would mess things up ( i'm guessing.... never tried, nor seen it done)
[16:33] <tortoisehead> hmm
[16:33] <tortoisehead> what are the permissions on media?
[16:34] <tortoisehead> i thought i would entertain everyone by detailing my upgrade process to hardy
[16:34] <nosrednaekim> whatever the permissions on the drive are I think
[16:34] <tortoisehead> i was here a few days ago wtha hosed upgrade, and then was only able to find an old fluxbuntu 6.06 disc
[16:34] <nosrednaekim> (or however its mounted)
[16:34] <tortoisehead> ah yes, a command line update of two years of changes
[16:35] <tortoisehead> lots of wrestling with aptitude
[16:35] <nosrednaekim> wow....
[16:35] <nosrednaekim> :)
[16:35] <tortoisehead> it took 10 hours
[16:35] <tortoisehead> haha
[16:35] <tortoisehead> my cd drive on my laptop mysteriously stopped opening after the desktop upgrade was hosed
[16:36] <tortoisehead> and my roommate's mac keeps burning error prone discs (always with 2 errors)
[16:36] <tortoisehead> i now understand the appeal of pressed cds
[16:37] <tortoisehead> actually, there was some bizarre error with evms oo
[16:37] <tortoisehead> too, it basically makes the hard drive thrash but never boots
[16:37] <tortoisehead> had to use the dapper kernel to boot
[16:37] <tortoisehead> ah... updating...
[16:39] <nosrednaekim> XD
[16:39] <tortoisehead> that is why i now have a "rescueme" partition
[16:40] <tortoisehead> which can be use for a tiny distro like puppy if thre is a problem
[16:40] <tortoisehead> at least i can fire up a browser or burn a cd
[16:41] <freddy> español
[16:41] <tortoisehead> !es
[16:41] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:42] <tortoisehead> it's amazing how quiet this channel is compared to the regular ubuntu one
[16:43] <tortoisehead> that one is a nightmare
[16:43] <polysilicon> tortoisehead, see the member count...
[16:44] <polysilicon> its 1/5th of #ubuntu
[16:44] <tortoisehead> i know
[16:44] <tortoisehead> but even so, it's still a lot
[16:44] <tortoisehead> they seem like they've got about 10,000 members i there
[16:45] <_eMaX_> wow.
[16:45] <_eMaX_> I've a reverse capslock key led effect in hardy
[16:45] <JoshOvki> lol
[16:45] <_eMaX_> yeah
[16:46] <_eMaX_> my laptop led tells me I've capslock on, yet I type mixedcase.
[16:46] <polysilicon> newbies to linux are most likely to use Gnome than KDE
[16:46] <_eMaX_> hey that's cool. with hardy I can show off with having one more LED constantly on.
[16:46] <tortoisehead> that's a shame
[16:46] <tortoisehead> because if i had to put up with gnome, i probably would have stuck with windows
[16:47] <tortoisehead> i love my right click menu, dammit
[16:47] <toyo|desk> hello I just tried running updates on my 8.04 kubuntu and there are 5 packages to update however they all fail with a 404 error
[16:47] <tortoisehead> 404 error?
[16:47] <_eMaX_> ne1 here uses vmware 6 on hardy? I've problems getting sound to work in the vmware clients
[16:47] <toyo|desk> yeah
[16:47] <stdin> click "Fetch Updates" again
[16:47] <toyo|desk> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main foomatic-filters 3.0.2-20071204-0ubuntu2.1
[16:47] <toyo|desk>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[16:47] <_eMaX_> no packages to update here
[16:47] <tortoisehead> try updating with apt-get
[16:48] <tortoisehead> apt-get safe-upgrade, i think
[16:48] <toyo|desk> tortoisehead, I did thats how I saw the errors
[16:48] <toyo|desk> :P
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> dist-upgrade
[16:48] <tortoisehead> hmm
[16:48] <stdin> dist-upgrade would not solve 404
[16:48] <tortoisehead> wait
[16:48] <tortoisehead> is the us.archive the problem?
[16:48] <stdin> fetch the list again "sudo apt-get update"
[16:48] <toyo|desk> I dont know
[16:48] <toyo|desk> ok
[16:48] <tortoisehead> that seems like it's odd...
[16:49] <toyo|desk> fetched
[16:49] <stdin> see if it still 404's
[16:49] <toyo|desk> k
[16:49] <toyo|desk> hmm nope its working now
[16:49] <toyo|desk> that was very strange
[16:50] <tortoisehead> that's kind of a cool problem
[16:50] <toyo|desk> maybe the files had just not gotten to that particular server yet
[16:50] <tortoisehead> haha
[16:50] <stdin> usually happens when something is moved from one dir to another but the package list hasn't been updated (usually only a few secs apart)
[16:50] <stdin> basically mean "opps you're too quick, try again"
[16:50] <toyo|desk> sweet well that took care of my updates
[16:50] <toyo|desk> ;D
[16:51] <tortoisehead> i still am impressed with the level of activitiy here
[16:51] <RurouniJones> hmm, have the fonts changed in Heron? Or have I just lost fonts that I hadbefore.
[16:51] <tortoisehead> enough to be useful but not overwhelming
[16:51] <tortoisehead> i think heron makes a lot of things arial by default
[16:51] <toyo|desk> yeah I tried asking in ubuntu but that channel is way to busy
[16:51] <tortoisehead> i remember the theme manager changing things to arieal
[16:52] <tortoisehead> a lot of them are weird questions too
[16:52] <tortoisehead> "help. how do i install flash?"
[16:52] <RurouniJones> Righto, it is messing up some of my Java apps. Fonts running of the bottoms of menus etc
[16:52] <tortoisehead> i know there is a problem with firefox brutally destroying fonts in hardy
[16:52] <donald_duck> is 4.7GB enough for kubuntu?
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> donald_duck: shouldbe
[16:53] <tortoisehead> it's enough if you don't keep updating without cleaning the cache
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> donald_duck: yes
[16:53] <donald_duck> ok i will shrink it down to 5GB later.
[16:53] <toyo|desk> I am not sure if I like KDE 4 yet
[16:53] <toyo|desk> :/
[16:53] <tortoisehead> is this including "/home" or no?
[16:54] <tortoisehead> until kde4 is stable and has domino as a theme
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: firefox always looks ugly in KDE
[16:54] <tortoisehead> i will stick with 3
[16:54] <stdin> /home is pretty much empty by default
[16:54] <tortoisehead> good point
[16:54] <tortoisehead> konqueror hates gmail though
[16:54] <tortoisehead> er, gmail hates konqueror
[16:54] <toyo|desk> I found an interesting bug in kde 4 dealing with the desktop icons
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> toyo|desk: when you delete them... the file isn't deleted
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> :)
[16:55] <stdin> that's well known
[16:55] <stdin> probably more people know that than know about KDE 4 in the first place ;)
[16:55] <donald_duck> is qtparted better than gparted
[16:55] <toyo|desk> if you rotate the icon and try to move it it cant determine that its been rotated and still thinks that the top of the icon is up
[16:55] <tortoisehead> i think gparted is a bit more useful, generally
[16:56] <toyo|desk> so when you move it it makes things real interesting
[16:56] <tortoisehead> qtparted gives me lip
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> tortoisehead: LOL....
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> *toyo
[16:57] <codeRat> hi. I have a pdf file. Is there a way to make another pdf so that will have more pages on a paper (I have a pdf with slides, and would like to print two slides on one page). I know I can setup this on the printer, but I'm interested if there is another way
[16:57] <stdin> toyo|desk: that's just for fun ;) but still known
[16:57] <toyo|desk> lol
[16:57] <toyo|desk> ok
[16:57] <toyo|desk> :D
[16:57] <tortoisehead> codeRat:are you using a pdf created from a powerpoint type thing?
[16:58] <alesan> Hi, KDE 3.5.8, how should I normally joina Cisco VPN on 64 bit distro? I have a URL my network administrator gave me
[16:58] <alesan> that URL starts a Java progranm which in turn starts a Cisco AnyConnect VPN client
[16:59] <toyo|desk> whats the issue
[16:59] <alesan> after this program is started... what should I do?
[17:00] <toyo|desk> alesan, think your net admin needs to give you that info
[17:00] <alesan> to ne honest I'd prefer the VPN to start in one of the following ways: 1) by a command line 2) by a KDE applet or sometihng
[17:00] <RurouniJones> or a Cisco FAQ
[17:00] <alesan> toyo|desk: or ask google mh? my sys admin will begin to ask me if I'm still running XP or Vista
[17:01] <toyo|desk> alesan, well what info dose it ask you when it runs
[17:01] <soontak> is there anybody could help me on this : http://pastebin.com/m50aa27cc
[17:01] <gromozekin> Hi there. Can u help me with KDE?
[17:01] <gromozekin> )
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> gromozekin: what problem do you have?
[17:01] <polysilicon> my gmail account keeps flooding with spam, I dunno how to avoid spam.. moreover sometimes valid mails go in spam folder so I have to browse through all the spam to check
[17:02] <toyo|desk> polysilicon, thats not really a kubuntu issue
[17:02] <gromozekin> some menu troubles with transparency
[17:02] <gromozekin> i dunno where edit it
[17:02] <soontak> Hello, is there anybody could help me on this : http://pastebin.com/m50aa27cc ? i got an error when try to start networking service
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> soontak: delete the first line of that file
[17:04] <gromozekin> hey
[17:04] <gromozekin> nosrednaekin, can u help m?
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> gromozekin: maybe... could you be more specific?
[17:05] <soontak> Thank you nosrednaekim
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> soontak: lemme guess, you are on KDE4?
[17:06] <gromozekin> nosrednaekin, yes. i downloaded qtcurve, and somewhere i setup transparency\shading\etc and now my system is working so slow (Intel Core2Duo t5450 1.6MhZ btw)
[17:06] <toyo|desk> hehe no gfx acceleration is my guess for the slowness
[17:06] <soontak> nosrednaekim : haha, i just upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[17:06] <toyo|desk> oop I GTG
[17:06] <toyo|desk> ttyl
[17:07] <toyo|desk> thanks for the help on the update guys
[17:07] <toyo|desk> :)
[17:07] <tortoisehead> gromo: what video card are you using?
[17:07] <nosrednaekim> gromozekin: ah... ok go to systemsettings->appearnace->style->effects
[17:07] <gromozekin> sec
[17:07] <gromozekin> 0
[17:07] <gromozekin> 8)
[17:08] <gromozekin> damn not this
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> gromozekin: ok.. then its the other place... one moment
[17:08] <gromozekin> ok
[17:08] <gromozekin> in this place there were some stuff to drag and correct transparency
[17:09] <nosrednaekim> oprn up kcontrol->desktop->windowbehavior-> translucency
[17:09] <nosrednaekim> *open
[17:09] <tortoisehead> i'm going to ask a question to the air that no one can likely answer, but what the hell: anyone know how to get zynaddsubfx working without ubuntustudio?
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> I don't even know what the heck that is :P
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> !info zynaddsubfx
[17:11] <ubotu> zynaddsubfx (source: zynaddsubfx): Realtime software synthesizer for Linux. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.1-4.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 962 kB, installed size 2212 kB
[17:11] <oxpoxitive> yeah, that was my guess
[17:11] <oxpoxitive> hha
[17:11] <oxpoxitive> i'm not sure if i have to use jack or can use it with alsa
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> oxpoxitive: ok..... you'll need the realtime kernel and jack is my guess... good lukc :)
[17:12] <oxpoxitive> yeah....
[17:12] <oxpoxitive> that's what i'd like to avoid
[17:12] <gromozekin> damn
[17:12] <gromozekin> i can`t find this
[17:12] <oxpoxitive> it can wait
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> gromozekin: kcontrol?
[17:12] <oxpoxitive> hydrogen is enough fun for now
[17:12]  * nosrednaekim <3 hydrogen
[17:12] <gromozekin> you mean kontrol center
[17:12] <oxpoxitive> if you know hydrogen, you should at least play with zynaddsubfx
[17:12] <oxpoxitive> it's loads of fun
[17:13] <gromozekin> heeey
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> gromozekin: no.... "kcontrol" run it from a run dialog
[17:13] <hydrogen> STOP IT
[17:13] <gromozekin> ha
[17:13] <gromozekin> gotcha
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> oxpoxitive: i'm a drummer... so i'm only interested in hydrogen
[17:13] <gromozekin> thanks a lot
[17:13] <oxpoxitive> fair enough
[17:13] <oxpoxitive> noises are noises though
[17:13] <oxpoxitive> and they're all fun!
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[17:14] <oxpoxitive> i'm looking for a taiko drumkit actually for hydrogen
[17:14] <oxpoxitive> but it's sort of a niche item
[17:14] <hydrogen> STOP HIGHLI9GHTING ME
[17:14] <oxpoxitive> i may have to sample them myself
[17:14] <gromozekin> where exactly in control center
[17:14] <gromozekin> )
[17:14] <nosrednaekim> hydrogen: might want to make yourself 1) not the name of a common material, and 2) not the name of a linux drum machine
[17:15] <oxpoxitive> from now on i will refer to the said program as "highdrogen"
[17:15] <hydrogen> that works.
[17:15] <hydrogen> thanks oxpoxitive :)
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> gromozekin: desktop->window behavior
[17:15] <hydrogen> or
[17:15] <hydrogen> "that drum machine"
[17:15] <hydrogen> or "not as cool as the person by the same name"
[17:15] <hydrogen> any of those will be satisfactory
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> or we could just call it hydrogen
[17:16] <hydrogen> or you could stop being annoying
[17:16] <oxpoxitive> haha
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> and you could change your nick to "Not as cool as the drum machine by the same name"
[17:16] <Hydrogone> NOW WHAT?
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> JK JK... i'll stop using the "h" word
[17:16] <oxpoxitive> actually, my name is a chemical reference too
[17:16] <oxpoxitive> oxidation results in a positive charge
[17:16] <oxpoxitive> from high school chem
[17:16] <oxpoxitive> after all these years, i still like the sound of it
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> STOP IT I hate Chem.
[17:16] <oxpoxitive> yeah me too
[17:16] <oxpoxitive> but i like the word
[17:17] <oxpoxitive> if i loved chem, i wouldn't have needed mnemonics to get me through it
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> later guys....
[17:19] <oxpoxitive> thanks for your help
[17:19] <oxpoxitive> adios
[17:31] <praeses> is there a way to reload kde window manager?    Mine crashed due to compiz and now all of my windows' borders are gone when I enable window effects
[17:31] <Level15> praeses: run kwin
[17:31] <praeses> <--- linux noob
[17:32] <kalib> hy guys...
[17:32] <praeses> so how exactly do i run kwin?
[17:32] <kalib> honestly... did anyone here like the new kubuntu release? i mean... 8.04 ?
[17:34] <Level15> praeses: open a konsole, type in kwin, hit enter
[17:34] <genii> praeses: alt-f2       kwin --replace
[17:34] <kalib> it was my favorite distro...until 7.10... but today... i did install the 8.04... and...for god.. it's so full of bugs... :/ and it's so heavy...  anyone had problems with it?
[17:34] <praeses> ah thanks
[17:34] <praeses> needed the --replace bit
[17:34] <genii> Level15: Without the --replace it will try to keep compiz running as regular wm and then start kwin in a separate instance
[17:35] <praeses> windows' borders are all still gone once I enable compiz
[17:35] <makdaknife> kalib: I know... I can't believe they launched the distribution with a beta version of firefox as your default firefox option
[17:35] <MilitantPotato> praeses: did you install emerald?
[17:36] <praeses> nope
[17:36] <kalib> makdaknife, :/ too sad..
[17:36] <Minnozz> http://img.minnozz.com/ff3_fonts.png vs http://img.minnozz.com/konq_fonts.png -- what's wrong with Firefox' monospace font?
[17:36] <praeses> where do i fetch emerald?
[17:36] <Level15> genii: he did say his wm had crashed
[17:36] <MilitantPotato> Adept has emerald.
[17:36] <kalib> first... i couldn't install flash plugin... it's not installing for default like the other versions...
[17:36] <praeses> kk
[17:36] <praeses> thx lemme find it
[17:37] <praeses> installing
[17:37] <makdaknife> kalib: and of course all your extensions fall apart... :-(
[17:37] <MilitantPotato> kalib: only issues with shuttdown and ATI, and java on firefox 2
[17:37] <kalib> second... it's not shuttind down... when i do click on k menu..close session...etc... it's not working..
[17:37] <MilitantPotato> kalib: ATI card?
[17:37] <kalib> yeah... ATI
[17:37] <MilitantPotato> Is it locking up with a black screen?
[17:37] <kalib> yeah... that's it..
[17:37] <MilitantPotato> kalib: one sec, i have a fix
[17:38] <kalib> i need to shutdown by press the power botton... :/
[17:38] <praeses> MilitantPotato: ok i have emerald now, should i do anythign with it?
[17:38] <MilitantPotato> kalib: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/32
[17:38] <MilitantPotato> Works perfect, you'll need to reboot for it to work
[17:38] <MilitantPotato> kalib: try sudo shutdown -r now
[17:38] <MilitantPotato> praeses: open CCSM
[17:38] <kalib> let me check the link...
[17:39] <praeses> ok i'm in ccsm
[17:39] <MilitantPotato> praeses: click the Window Decorator plugin
[17:39] <MilitantPotato> there's a box with the lable command, type in emerald --replace
[17:39] <kkathman> Kudos to the kubuntu/ubuntu team in making the upgrade script absolutely perfect to upgrade to Hardy!! Many thanks!
[17:40] <MilitantPotato> praeses: open a terminal, and type compiz --replace & disown
[17:41] <MilitantPotato> praeses: also, sometimes windows will go full screen, hiding your taskbar and boarders, hit alt+tab a few times, till the taskbar shows up, right click the window, go to advanced and untick fullscreen
[17:41] <praeses> hmm ok now active windows have borders while inactive ones don't
[17:41] <MilitantPotato> Really?
[17:41] <praeses> yeah
[17:41] <MilitantPotato> head to www.compiz-look.org
[17:42] <MilitantPotato> wait wrong URL
[17:42] <praeses> indeed
[17:42] <MilitantPotato> http://compiz-themes.org/
[17:42] <praeses> so what does emerald do exactly?
[17:42] <MilitantPotato> It's a window decorator
[17:42] <MilitantPotato> handles boarders, title bar, and button themes
[17:43] <praeses> instead of kde's default?
[17:43] <MilitantPotato> yea, instead of KWIN
[17:43] <praeses> ok thanks
[17:43] <MilitantPotato> err, yea, KDE WIn decorator
[17:43] <MilitantPotato> Not sure the name of it.
[17:43] <praeses> something like that
[17:43] <praeses> ok should i get a theme from that site?
[17:44] <MilitantPotato> yes, for emerald, just any random one for now
[17:44] <MilitantPotato> praeses: you may want to install fusion-icon from the repos, makes compiz easier to work with.
[17:44] <MilitantPotato> Also allows you to switch between compiz and Kwin in 3 clicks
[17:45] <praeses> nifty
[17:45] <praeses> ok just installed that, still need to get the theme
[17:45] <praeses> where's the download button :/
[17:45] <MilitantPotato> left side
[17:45] <MilitantPotato> it's just text
[17:45] <praeses> oh right
[17:46] <praeses> blind i am
[17:46] <MilitantPotato> it took me awhile the first time i was on that site too
[17:46] <praeses> it opens automatically with kate
[17:46] <praeses> the theme :/
[17:47] <praeses> mind if i open a pvt window with you MilitantPotato?
[17:47] <eddieftw> hello, i am trying to burn an iso file to cd/dvd and when I try to, k3b refuses to recognize a cd/dvd in the drive. can someone suggest alternatve iso burning apps?
[17:48] <kalib> MilitantPotato, thanks man... one problem solved...
[17:48] <kalib> now i can make a logoff without have my screen locked... :]
[17:48] <kalib> but i still having some problems... for example...
[17:49] <kalib> i tryed to open youtube's website with firefox 3.0 (the default in kubuntu 8.04)...
[17:49] <amerigo> Help... I've noted that I have no Floppy Disk
[17:49] <praeses> should i download a compiz or emerald theme, MilitantPotato?
[17:49] <MilitantPotato> emerald
[17:49] <kalib> and when i try to click on a video to install automatically the flash plugin...
[17:49] <amerigo> wath sould i do?
[17:49] <kalib> it did't work.. :/
[17:50] <MilitantPotato> kalib: do you have ubufox installed?
[17:50] <kalib> i had to install it by aptitude..
[17:50] <MilitantPotato> ubufox gives firefox apt-get ability
[17:50] <kalib> no..never saw it before...
[17:51] <MilitantPotato> it's installed by default in 7.10 IIRC
[17:51] <MilitantPotato> not 100% sure.  it's in adept
[17:51] <Freku> my menu got kde3 and kde4 applications, how do i get rid of kde3
[17:51] <MilitantPotato> It's also supported by canocal
[17:51] <spydon> Does anyone know a tutorial or something of how to do a multi-boot cd with kubuntu and ubuntu?
[17:52] <kalib> i c.. sounds great.. i'll take a look on it..for sure
[17:52] <spydon> and I dont want to install, I just want to do a multiboot cd
[17:52] <MilitantPotato> close firefox first :)
[17:52] <praeses> MilitantPotato: i have the theme in emerald now but how do i activate it?
[17:52] <MilitantPotato> praeses: open fusion-icon, right click it, click Emerald Theme Manager
[17:52] <MilitantPotato> It will run the system tray
[17:53] <MilitantPotato> There's an Import button
[17:53] <praeses> ok but it wont apply the theme. i can see the theme in emerald after importing it
[17:54] <praeses> oh there it goes
[17:54] <praeses> yay
[17:54] <genii> spydon: Since the squashfs file containing the livecd images is more than half a cdrom in size, I don't think it's possible to dualboot both from a regular cd
[17:54] <praeses> i have window borders!
[17:54] <praeses> thanks MilitantPotato
[17:54] <spydon> genii, sorry dvd :P
[17:55] <eddieftw> hello, i am trying to burn an iso file to cd/dvd and when I try to, k3b refuses to recognize a cd/dvd in the drive. can someone suggest alternatve iso burning apps?
[17:55] <MilitantPotato> praeses: Np :)
[17:55] <MilitantPotato> For once I've been helpfull here.
[17:55] <amerigo> !modem
[17:55] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[17:55] <MilitantPotato> eddieftw: have you tried a different disc?
[17:55] <eddieftw> yes MilitantPotato
[17:55] <eddieftw> ive tried 6 different disks
[17:55] <MilitantPotato> Odd.
[17:56] <spydon> does ubuntu/kubuntu see he disc?
[17:56] <MilitantPotato> eddie try the gnome burner app
[17:56] <MilitantPotato> ah yea
[17:56] <MilitantPotato> do you get a black media detected popup eddie?
[17:56] <MilitantPotato> blank*
[17:56] <eddieftw> yes
[17:56] <eddieftw> which one is the gnome burner app?
[17:56] <MilitantPotato> Checked google for that problem with k3b?
[17:57] <MilitantPotato> eddieftw: does it detect your Burner (k3b)?
[17:57] <eddieftw> yup. everything works fine, except burning iso files
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> Can it burn other things?
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> I'm not sure what Ubuntu uses for a burner app
[17:59] <praeses> doesn't this cube have a 3D effect?
[17:59] <praeses> looks pretty two dimensional
[17:59] <kevman_> Does anyone have a solution to the whole knetworkmanager wireless "28% (configuring device)" problem?
[17:59] <MilitantPotato> Yes
[18:00] <eMaX> hi all
[18:00] <MilitantPotato> right click F-I, go to CCSM, click General Options, then the Desktop Size Tab
[18:00] <eMaX> is there sort of a cpu load widget for kde4?
[18:00] <raymears> hey! i have a non-kde related problem with my system. after installing gentoo on another partition, i "accidentally" mounted my kubuntu partiton in gentoo, changed some permissions...(don't actually remember exectly what i did, cause it was a packed day :D ) and now... kubuntu doesn't work
[18:01] <eddieftw> okay all thanks.
[18:01] <reese> praeses: go in the compiz settings - general options - desktop size and set horizontal virtual size to 4 and vertical to 1 and number of desktops to 1
[18:01] <eMaX> raymears: what does not work?
[18:01] <MilitantPotato> eddieftw: any luck?
[18:01] <busfahrer> Excuse me, I upgraded to Hardy and installed firefox-2, and now my fonts are completely screwed. It's even using serif ones for non-serif ones. Anybody else noticed this?
[18:01] <MilitantPotato> praeses: set Horizontal to 4, v to 1, and number of desktops to 1 also.
[18:01] <raymears> well.. when in log in with my user... i get a "unable to cd to home/bla" message
[18:02] <eddieftw> nope, i'll figure something out though. thanks all.
[18:02] <raymears> if i add my user to the root group, i can login... but not everything works (not even eth0)
[18:02] <melkart> busfahrer: my fonts got screwed soon after upgrading to hardy, too, but i dont know if it was firefox that caused it
[18:02] <MilitantPotato> raymears: try sudo chown -r username:username /home/username
[18:02] <MilitantPotato> in ctrl+alt+f1
[18:02] <raymears> i already did that
[18:02] <busfahrer> melkart: Any hints on how to fix it?
[18:03] <praeses> ah thanks it works now :D
[18:03] <MilitantPotato> :)
[18:03] <raymears> MilitantPotato:  (i logged in as root after editing the /etc/passwd file)
[18:03] <MilitantPotato> praeses: if ya need more help with compiz, try #compiz-fusion
[18:03] <MilitantPotato> or the compiz-fusion wiki page
[18:03] <kevman_> Can anyone, then, tell me how to connect to a wirless network via the commandline? Knetworkmanager seems hopelessly busted.
[18:03] <melkart> busfahrer: just a guess, because i reinstalled 7.04 ... have you set anti-aliasing -> hinting to "full"?
[18:03] <eddieftw> kevman_: yes
[18:03] <praeses> thanks MilitantPotato
[18:03] <eddieftw> waht is your wireless interface?
[18:03] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder why cutting and pasting a file in dolphin doesn't really delete it?
[18:03] <kevman_> wlan0
[18:03] <melkart> busfahrer: but even then... no that cant be it :/
[18:03] <eddieftw> wlan0, eth0, eth1 ..?
[18:04] <eddieftw> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname
[18:04] <praeses> i just need help finding a PPPoE connection creator
[18:04] <busfahrer> melkart: Did you overwrite 8.04 or a clean new install?
[18:04] <melkart> busfahrer: a clean new install
[18:04] <eddieftw> is how I do it, but I use wlan0 kevman_
[18:04] <kevman_> Ah, ok.
[18:04] <busfahrer> melkart: OK thanks
[18:04] <busfahrer> melkart: Was it possible for you to keep your dot-directories? (.kde .mozilla etc)
[18:04] <chi_> hzi all, while booting i am "waiting for root file system" until busy-box
[18:04] <kevman_> I'll try that soon. Its a shame they broke knetworkmanager since Gutsy.
[18:05] <melkart> busfahrer: no
[18:05] <eddieftw> kevman_: that is for unencrypterd wireless networks
[18:05] <kevman_> Yeah, I know.
[18:05] <MilitantPotato> yao_ziyuan: if the file is owned by the root account, you won't be able to delete it without running dolphin as root.
[18:05] <eddieftw> i forget how to pass the key via cli, i think it's the man page for iwconfig though
[18:05] <yao_ziyuan> MilitantPotato: it isn't
[18:06] <MilitantPotato> yao_ziyuan: try konqueror yet?
[18:06] <praeses> Can anybody help me find a way to create PPPoE connections?
[18:06] <yao_ziyuan> MilitantPotato: konqueror as file manager?
[18:06] <chris__> Hi everyone
[18:07] <kalib> yao_ziyuan, don't you like dolphin?
[18:07] <chris__> MP, that's a .conf file edit, I think
[18:07] <jonatan> kubuntu español?
[18:07] <MilitantPotato> yao_ziyuan: yes
[18:07] <yao_ziyuan> kalib: my dolphin does not delete a file after cutting and pasting it elsewhere
[18:07] <chris__> I don't care for dolphin myself either
[18:07] <melkart> (konqueror 3.5.x) can anybody play embedded realaudio-streams within konqueror (3.5.x)? like at http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/ -> click on "listen live"
[18:07] <MilitantPotato> in KDE3.5 Konq is a much better file manager then dolphin In my opinion
[18:07] <jonatan> a need kubuntu es
[18:07] <chris__> i agree, mpp
[18:08] <jonatan> no speak english
[18:08] <eddieftw> !es
[18:08] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:08] <MilitantPotato> !es
[18:08] <chris__> que nececitas, jon?
[18:08] <BonesolTeraDyne> !es | jonatan
[18:08] <ubotu> jonatan: please see above
[18:08] <kalib> yao_ziyuan, i see...i don't like dolphin too..
[18:08] <kalib> i prefer konqueror...
[18:08] <melkart> MilitantPotato: i agree, therefore i changed back to 7.04 instead of 7.10...
[18:08] <kalib> yao_ziyuan, wanna change to konqueror?
[18:08] <MilitantPotato> Konq is in 7.10 and 8.04
[18:08] <yao_ziyuan> kalib: i don't mean i don't like it... it's the default file manager in the System Menu
[18:09] <MilitantPotato> Just need to open konq and change the Inode application preference
[18:09] <melkart> MilitantPotato: oh, i didnt know that
[18:09] <kalib> yao_ziyuan, i know... but i changed it... now....my default file manager is konqueror
[18:09] <MilitantPotato> inode*
[18:09] <yao_ziyuan> kalib: how to change?
[18:09] <kalib> you can change it on...
[18:09] <chris__> i forget where the conf file is
[18:10] <MilitantPotato> Settings Configure Konqueror
[18:10] <kalib> ok...
[18:10] <kalib> Alt + F2
[18:10] <melkart> MilitantPotato: can u give me a hint where i change the "inode application preference" (whatever that is)?
[18:10] <kalib> open kcontrol...
[18:10] <quentusrex> How do I get system monitor graphs?
[18:10] <kalib> KDE components
[18:10] <MilitantPotato> Then Go to File Assosiations
[18:11] <kalib> Then Inodes
[18:11] <MilitantPotato> then drop down inode, go to directory, move Konq above dolphin
[18:11] <chris__> oh yeah!
[18:11] <kalib> MilitantPotato, are we a team? hahahha
[18:11] <melkart> MilitantPotato: thank you very much ! :)
[18:11] <MilitantPotato> do the same for system directory :)
[18:11] <chris__> i spend way too much time, in windows land...i forget this stuff too easily
[18:11] <MilitantPotato> I only spend time there to game
[18:12] <eMaX> raymears: then check permissions on /home/bla
[18:12] <chris__> i have to support windows at work :(
[18:12] <kalib> thanks god i don't have to..
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> I can't get my G25 wheel to work correctly in linux, spent to much on it to cripple it :(
[18:12] <chris__> i wish i didn't
[18:12] <chris__> i wanna get a gig supporting linux, but i feel like i have too much to learn yet
[18:12] <kalib> i do work with fedora... even i don't like rpm distros too much... but..anyway...it's better then windows ;]
[18:12] <yao_ziyuan> kalib: i see
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> kalib: if you decide to use firefox-2 again, java will be broken, it's easy enough to fix by editing a script
[18:13] <raymears> eMaX:  well they are all ok, as far as i can tell. everything belongs to me; only myself and my groups have write access that folder
[18:13] <kalib> MilitantPotato, i guess i'll try to keep the 3.0...
[18:13] <JonasD> Hi! After upgrading to 8.04, firefox (3.0) is not localized anymore (german). How do I fix this?
[18:13] <kalib> if i don't like.... i'll downgrade it
[18:14] <jesse> is creating an unpartitioned section of a HD hard?
[18:14] <chris__> does anyone find konqy better at rendering web pages in 3.59 than earlier versions?
[18:14] <chris__> jesse, you can use that gtk-based parted (i think) to change the size of the partitions on a volume
[18:14] <wad> If I start X with a projector plugged into my laptop, then I get a video signal on the projector. But if I don't boot with the projector plugged in, there is no way to get it without restarting X. Is this normal behavior for you guys? I'm thinking this must have something to do with Linux, because when I boot to Windows, I can just plug in, and it works.
[18:14] <kalib> chris__, well... i do never use konqueror to navigate... :/
[18:15] <chris__> lol
[18:15] <chris__> firefox only, eh?
[18:15] <MilitantPotato> chris__: i've only used firefox
[18:15] <jesse> ok, Is it called 'parted'?
[18:15] <MilitantPotato> chris__: need stumbleupon or I'll die.
[18:15] <chris__> i think so
[18:15] <chris__> stumbleupon?
[18:15] <MilitantPotato> jesse: gparted
[18:15] <chris__> that's the one!
[18:16] <jesse> thanks, both of you
[18:16] <chris__> yw
[18:16] <MilitantPotato> chris__: firefox plugin, takes you random webpages/videos in subjects you choose.  Great way to kill free time.
[18:17] <MilitantPotato> but I'm offtopic
[18:17] <chris__> lol - i wish i had more free time to kill
[18:17] <chris__> i've started studying for my lpi cert
[18:19] <chris__> and now i've come to this irc for the first time to get even more into the community
[18:19] <jesse> lpi?
[18:19] <chris__> linux professional institute
[18:20] <chris__> like getting a microsoft mcp or an a+ cert
[18:20] <jesse> wow, sounds big
[18:20] <chris__> i figure i need one if i'm gonna move into supporting linux for a livinv
[18:20] <chris__> living
[18:20] <jesse> how long have you been programming?
[18:21] <chris__> i don't, it's just for desktop and network support
[18:21] <chris__> don't have a head for coding
[18:21] <jesse> how long have you been working with linux?
[18:21] <chris__> personally, since 2002
[18:22] <rrr3> how to get _exact_ sources of current ubuntu kernel (including ubuntu patches)  and just change one option and build that?
[18:22] <jesse> so, .. it would be your job to be avail. on forums and chat?
[18:23] <chris__> not really, but i would do it
[18:23] <chris__> i'd like to find work at a company that doesn't use windows
[18:23] <jesse> remote tech?
[18:23] <chris__> maybe
[18:23] <jesse> oyhh, okay
[18:23] <chris__> not sure, rr
[18:24] <chris__> i usually just go with the kernel in the latest updates
[18:24] <BonesolTeraDyne> !offtopic | chris__ and jesse
[18:24] <ubotu> chris__ and jesse: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:24] <Pupeno_> Any ideas why "login -f blah" would give "Permission denied"? How can I debug what's going on?
[18:25] <chris__> sorry bonesol
[18:25] <chris__> first day here
[18:26] <BonesolTeraDyne> chris__: It's not really a problem. I'm not an op, but I've seen people kicked for less. I just like to make sure that doesn't happen to someone new.
[18:26] <JoshOvki> Pupeno_: sudo login -f blah   try
[18:26] <Pupeno_> JoshOvki: I'm already as root when running login.
[18:27] <JoshOvki> Pupeno_: dangerous business
[18:27] <JoshOvki> what happens when you run just login
[18:29] <jesse> what are the differences between Kubuntu and ubuntu?
[18:30] <JoshOvki> Kubuntu has KDE desktop, Ubuntu has Gnome desktop
[18:30] <jesse> to the layman
[18:30] <BonesolTeraDyne> jesse: Aside from the desktop manager and default applications, nothing as far as I know.
[18:30] <kalib> the interface
[18:30] <kalib> you can check on google images...
[18:31] <kalib> different images from ubuntu and kubuntu...
[18:31] <kalib> same system...different graphical interface
[18:31] <jesse> really, it's just aesthetics then?
[18:32] <kalib> bbasically
[18:32] <jesse> thanks
[18:32] <BonesolTeraDyne> jesse: And a few default applications. Like Konqueror comes default instead of Firefox, and a few others.
[18:33] <kalib> same kernel....some few different applications.... kubuntu comes with some KDE applications... ubuntu comes with gnome applications... but in the base...is the same system
[18:34] <jesse> thanks BonesolTeraDyne
[18:34] <jesse> thanks kalib
[18:35] <kalib> ;]
[18:35] <Phlogi> If I'm having a broadcom wireless card, how should I get that working? With ndiswrapper or with the method from here :http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 ? And which firmware do I need with hardy?
[18:40] <jesse> so I installed gparted..
[18:40] <Phlogi> how do I start the hardware manager in kubuntu to activate my braodcom card?
[18:40] <jesse> but only root can access it, what now?
[18:40] <trappist> jesse: become root
[18:41] <trappist> as in, gksudo gparted
[18:41] <jesse> hi trappist, I don't know how
[18:41] <jesse> oh
[18:42] <Odd-rationale> Phlogi: try, "kdesudo jockey-kde"
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> Phlogi: use the b43 drivers, you will need wired connection
[18:46] <donald_duck> y does gparted 90 mins and counting to expand an ext3 partition?
[18:47] <Phlogi_> I mean actually that was the b43 running then... not totally sure though
[18:47] <Phlogi_> where do I tell kubuntu to use b43?
[18:48] <Muzer> Hi, I have a problem
[18:49] <Muzer> Does anyone know one of the following: 1) How do I access the KDE4 settings manager from the konsole (i.e. what is the program name?) Failing that, 2) Where is/are the KDE4 config file(s) stored?
[18:49] <Phlogi_> Muzer: systemsettings
[18:49] <Phlogi_> .kde/share/config
[18:49] <Phlogi_> or .kde4
[18:50] <fdoving>  /usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings and ~/.kde4 like phlogi_  says.
[18:50] <Muzer> Systemsettings is for KDE3 only
[18:50] <Muzer> Oh, I'll try that fdoving
[18:50] <Muzer> it might be defaulting to the KDE3 one, might find that first
[18:50] <fdoving> it does if you're in kde3.
[18:51] <Muzer> I'm in KDE4 failsafe
[18:51] <Muzer> I enabled too many effects that my GFX card can't support and I get a black screen when trying to start it normally
[18:51] <Hydrogen> Muzer: err, systemsettings is for kde4..
[18:52] <donald_duck> is kubuntu 8.10 gonna be based on kde4?
[18:52] <Muzer> I'll have to quit because there doesn't seem to be any other way of activating the konsole window...
[18:52] <Hydrogen> donald_duck: I don't know if thats been completely determined yet... It probably depends a lot on the state of kde 4.1 when its released
[18:52] <fdoving> Muzer: ah, you can also use 'kcmshell4 kwincompositing'
[18:52] <Hydrogen> If its as unfinished as kde 4.0.0...
[18:57] <donald_duck> wat does the f mean in ## -#f
[18:57] <Phlogi_> anyone else has that logout bug in kubuntu (kde3): The screen stays black quite some time until the shutdown splash appears...
[18:58] <Phlogi_> donald_duck: force
[18:58] <donald_duck> ok thx
[18:58] <Phlogi_> man rm btw
[18:59] <aaakkk111> hi
[18:59] <MaKARON> rm --help|grep "\-f"
[18:59] <aaakkk111> I Just installed ubuntu using alternate cd I'd like to change the resolution but the resolution list is empty, can anyone help please?
[19:00] <aaakkk111> kubuntu*
[19:03] <Muzer> It's working fine now
[19:03] <Muzer> thanks a lot
[19:03] <Muzer> oooh, KDE4 is soo shiny!!!
[19:03] <JoshOvki> lol
[19:04] <Muzer> I had to type the whole program path BTW, it seems the failsafe mode is actually from KDE3 but using the KDE4 wallpaper for some reason.
[19:05] <Muzer> Hmm... I can't seem to access efnet now, has it gone down again or is Opera messing up?
[19:06] <giacomo> !it
[19:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:09] <Phlogi_> what version of ati fglrx comes with hardy?
[19:10] <MaKARON> Phlogi_ i don't know - i use server edition :)
[19:10] <Phlogi_> MaKARON: thanks for the answer then :ü
[19:11] <jonatan__> hola
[19:11] <jonatan__> alguen habla español
[19:11] <Muzer> Phlogi_: How would I find out for you? fglrx --version or something?
[19:12] <Muzer> OK, that doesn't work.
[19:17] <arriesp> hi
[19:21] <JoshOvki> hey arriesp
[19:22] <JoshOvki> didnt realise no one was about
[19:24] <joern> hey there
[19:24] <JoshOvki> joern:  hey
[19:24] <joern> i got a question: does someone now how to suppress join-messages in konversation?
[19:25] <Phlogi_> anyone has an idea why my sound stopped working after the update to hardy?
[19:25] <JoshOvki> Phlogi_: in kmix make sure nothing is muted
[19:25] <Phlogi_> JoshOvki: ok good idea :)
[19:26] <Phlogi_> JoshOvki: does not help
[19:27] <JoshOvki> Phlogi_: does your sound device show up in  lspci  ?
[19:27] <Muzer> If you have an intergratede soundcard and a PCI one, make sure the PCI one is priority
[19:27] <Muzer> (in settings --> sound in KDE4)
[19:28] <Muzer> Try swapping the cable to your motherboard's port if you can, that's an easy way to diagnose
[19:29] <Muzer> In Edgy when it was getting near the end of my OS install cycle, my sound cards used to swap randomly between boots, and stop working all together sometimes
[19:29] <aleXXX> hi
[19:29] <Muzer> hi
[19:30] <aleXXX> I have problems getting my wlan working with 7.10, laptop with Intel 3945
[19:30] <aleXXX> everything seems quite ok, except that it doesn't get an IP address via DHCP
[19:31] <Muzer> Is DHCP enabled on your AP?
[19:31] <Muzer> Can't you just not use DHCP?
[19:31] <aleXXX> Muzer: yes, it works for all other machines, and I enabled it also for this MAC
[19:31] <aleXXX> Muzer: this would be a first step, but somehow it also didn't work
[19:31] <aleXXX> ifdown wlan0
[19:32] <Muzer> It might mean there's a connection problem
[19:32] <aleXXX> followed by ifconfif ....
[19:32] <Muzer> sometimes mine used to have a connection problem but not tell me, it would just fail to aquire an IP.
[19:32] <aleXXX> Muzer: the AP is just in the next room and works for all other machines in the apartement
[19:33] <aleXXX> one or twice it worked, but I couldn't reproduce it
[19:33] <Muzer> I mean like, a WLAN card problem
[19:33] <aleXXX> Muzer: you mean like broken hardware ?
[19:33] <Muzer> If you have a dualboot, does it work on the other OS?
[19:33] <aleXXX> I don't have dualboot
[19:33] <Muzer> It could be the new version of
[19:33] <pauls> anyone know which firewall port I need to open in guarddog to connect to this firewall.  I tried "IRC" but it was still blocked, so I had to open all ports.
[19:33] <Muzer> it could be 7.10 doesn't work with your card