[07:58] <stevekl> By "non-X" i mean, I want the installation proccess to not involve X
[07:58] <frank_> axion`: does wine exist for AMD64?
[07:58] <stevekl> not just "it doesn't install X"
[07:58] <farous> penguinwhoflew: would that be your problem from the start :)
[07:58] <axion`> it should
[07:58] <penguinwhoflew> shat
[07:58] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  cant boot to login screen ?
[07:58] <axion`> if theyre linking to it
[07:58] <Auckland_Pig> how do i create .iso file from a cd?
[07:58] <penguinwhoflew> i uninstalled all that
[07:58] <orbin> TaTonka: what app?
[07:58] <Auckland_Pig> !iso
[07:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:58] <farous> tht you did not change the driver in xorg.conf from ati to fglrx
[07:59] <orbin> ubotu: tell TaTonka about mp3
[07:59] <klormexor> hey Auckland_Pig Kiaora
[07:59] <penguinwhoflew> farous: nobody told me to =X
[07:59] <farous> lol
[07:59] <Auckland_Pig> klormexor: kia ora
[07:59] <chavo> stevekl, yes
[07:59] <TaTonka> orbin: totem mopvie player. only 1 right now, and i tried playing 1 off of my external, didnt work
[07:59] <Fracture> where can I find out what's on the DVD iso ?
[07:59] <stevekl> chavo: ok
[07:59] <chavo> you want the "Alternate install cd"
[07:59] <krazykit> Auckland_Pig: you can cat the device to a file
[07:59] <orbin> TaTonka: read the wiki page ubotu sent you
[07:59] <rixxon> totem + separate subtitles, how?
[07:59] <protocol2_> orbin, wise decision.....and the nice thing is .....is that my dapper system that was upgraded from breezy had no problems
[07:59] <klormexor> Auckland_Pig: =-]
[07:59] <chavo> stevekl, it's the text mode installer
[07:59] <JediLow> Hi there... I'm a complete newbie to Linux and I'm having a couple of problems with Ubuntu (which I think are associated with my video drivers). First off - when I boot up the live CD (I have to change the resolution else I get majorly corrupted video which I can't do anything on) I have no mouse cursor. My second problem is that while I'm able to navigate without the cursor...
[08:00] <Auckland_Pig> krazykit: i want to create the iso file from the dapper cd so that i can burn more....
[08:00] <farous> penguinwhoflew: did not you follow the howto
[08:00] <TaTonka> kk
[08:00] <JediLow> my second problem is that when I am able to install Ubuntu, the video is corrupted so I'm unable to do anything with it.
[08:00] <farous> ati
[08:00] <stevekl> chavo: yeah that's what I mean. I know breezy had that, but I was wondering about dapper
[08:00] <Auckland_Pig> krazykit: i dont have the .iso file
[08:00] <bsdirl> anyone have the sysreq for xubuntu dapper handy?
[08:00] <penguinwhoflew> farous: which how-to? there are EIGHTY
[08:00] <farous> wait penguinwhoflew will get it to you
[08:00] <penguinwhoflew> farous: ok how do i re-install all that crap
[08:00] <MTecknology> Good night important people
[08:01] <chavo> stevekl, yup, alternate=text mode and desktop=live cd/install
[08:01] <farous> penguinwhoflew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI this is the easiest see the first method
[08:01] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  ATIHOWTO first  and the 8.18 to 8.25 upgrade instructions, youre done I followed that it worked
[08:01] <orbin> JediLow: your second problem is two different problems :-/
[08:01] <bsdirl> :[
[08:01] <klormexor> !atihowto
[08:01] <ubotu> klormexor: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:01] <klormexor> !ati
[08:02] <rixxon> how to use external subtitles with totem
[08:02] <JediLow> orbin: can you talk me through them? I've got the Live cd booted up on my desktop right now (on my lappy)
[08:02] <TaTonka> orbin: if i download xmmp, will it automatically have mp3 support?
[08:02] <orbin> JediLow: ok, so you're saying [1]  video is corrupted [2]  ?
[08:02] <dsas> !tell TaTonka about mp3
[08:02] <frank_> does totem in dapper use gstreamer or xine by default?
[08:02] <TaTonka> dsas, alreadt read:P thanks tho
[08:02] <|Spider|> thanks for all nite
[08:02] <st3v3dnd> Where does Dapper store xscreensaver settings? It is defintely not ~/.xscreensaver because the settings in there are not being obeyed at all.
[08:02] <orbin> TaTonka: it's xmms...i'd reather get beep-media-player ...and yes, they come with an mp3 codec
[08:02] <farous> frank_: gstreamer
[08:02] <stevekl> chavo: what about the server CD?
[08:03] <frank_> farous: ok
[08:03] <davidleeroth> Hey guys, for some reason ubuntu freezes when i try to install it.
[08:03] <chavo> stevekl, it's text mode also
[08:03] <anyday> whats the help channel?
[08:03] <rixxon> how to use .sub and .idx files with totem (or any movie player)?
[08:03] <TaTonka> ok, is beep the best or something?
[08:03] <JediLow> orbin: 1: Booted to Live CD but have no mouse cursor. Changing settings doesn't fix it.; 2: Booting off the install just gets me a corrupted screen (random lines, can't see any text) - I got that using the CD but changing resolutions solved (NVidia 6800GS)
[08:03] <davidleeroth> Is anyone else having that program?
[08:03] <klormexor> farous: is this it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:03] <dsas> st3v3dnd: it's in gconf-editor I think
[08:03] <FirstLite>  /leave
[08:03] <farous> yap
[08:03] <FirstLite>  /leave #ubuntu
[08:03] <jspark> rixxon: try using VLC
[08:03] <axion`> JediLow - I have the same card
[08:03] <dsas> anyday: this is the help channel
[08:03] <klormexor> farous: the first step to get gcc and everything else
[08:03] <axion`> im running ubuntu right now
[08:03] <farous> no
[08:04] <FirstLite>  /leave #ubuntu
[08:04] <axion`> did you edit xorg.conf?
[08:04] <intelikey> TheBonsai ah yes indeed.
[08:04] <farous> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI read the dapper section
[08:04] <JediLow> axion: What do I need to edit in it (I'm a complete Linux noob)
[08:04] <farous> forget about compiling from source for now
[08:04] <intelikey> how to disable ipv6  ?
[08:04] <iiiears> Hello!                    I need the link for ubuntu 6.06 DVD md5sums - Ubuntu is wonderful the many contributers have done it again. :) Thank You guys! ( crimsun, nickrud and the many others here too..)
[08:04] <penguinwhoflew> farous: ok can you send that link again
[08:04] <penguinwhoflew> i forgot to mark it
[08:04] <penguinwhoflew> =/
[08:04] <farous> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:05] <penguinwhoflew> ty
[08:05] <axion`> boot to recovery mode, then type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:05] <orbin> intelikey: about:config
[08:05] <st3v3dnd> dsas: Any idea why the heck they did that? Kind of takes away from the "*NIX-ishness" of it all. Makes it like windows and its infernal registry
[08:05] <anyday> ok got a quick question, im following a howto on the ubuntu wiki on how to install ati's driver's,  i have followed all the steps, the step im on now is needing the kernel hearders,  i cant find them on packages.ubuntu.com for <IP_ADDRESS>-i386, just curious where i could get these
[08:05] <axion`> oops wait
[08:05] <axion`> thats the second step
[08:05] <penguinwhoflew> yargh there we go
[08:05] <orbin> axion`: he can't do that if it's not installed
[08:05] <Crypt> IPWireless 3G USB modem with Dapper. Anyone know how??? It doesnt assign the ports right
[08:05] <axion`> first! type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:06] <dsas> st3v3dnd: There's many reasons. I don't know them off the top of my head though. I'm sure you'll fine more info on the gnome wiki.
[08:06] <JediLow> orbin: I managed to install it (gotta love navigating with no mouse)
[08:06] <Atomic_UE> Am I correct in saying that the Desktop CD is the normal install cd for desktop use, Server CD for console based server?
[08:06] <intelikey> orbin ?
[08:06] <dsas> st3v3dnd: also it's gnome-screensaver rather than xscreensaver now.
[08:06] <dsas> Atomic_UE: yes
[08:06] <orbin> JediLow: oh, then yeah, i'll defer to axion then
[08:06] <iiiears> The DVD torrent md5sums don't match the sums reported while downloading/uploading. Has someone the right md5sum?
[08:06] <orbin> intelikey: type about:config in the url bar of firefox, then filter for ipv6
[08:06] <Atomic_UE> dsas: thank you
[08:07] <orbin> intelikey: or read this, according to ubotu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:07] <st3v3dnd> dsas: Yeah, I found the settings. No way to get it to use the original ~/.xscreensaver config I'm guessing?
[08:07] <intelikey> orbin i don't have firefox
[08:07] <dsas> st3v3dnd: Not without using xscreensaver rather than gnome-screensaver
[08:07] <iiiears> Hi intelikey
[08:07] <Crypt> IPWireless 3G USB modem with Dapper. Anyone know how??? It doesnt assign the ports right
[08:07] <intelikey> hey iiiears
[08:07] <orbin> intelikey: ah.  see !ipv6
[08:07] <penguinwhoflew> farous: um, now what?
[08:08] <intelikey> orbin yeah  thanks.
[08:08] <penguinwhoflew> how do i czech if it worked?
[08:08] <davidleeroth> when i bot the cd, i press text setup.  it detects the cd, then freezes at a blue screen. Currently, i dualboot winxp and badger
[08:08] <davidleeroth> *boot
[08:08] <farous> penguinwhoflew: did you instll the packages
[08:08] <myleftfoot> iiiears: i haven't found the dvd check sums. just the cd ones.
[08:08] <Corey> whats the cvs password ?
[08:08] <penguinwhoflew> farous: if that's what the tutorial said, then yes
[08:08] <axion`> JediLow: refer to this link: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=447600 -this is the thread i submitted w/ the problem
[08:08] <farous> penguinwhoflew: xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules
[08:08] <myleftfoot> iiiears: and good luck finding the gpg key to validate them
[08:08] <rixxon> thank you jspark
[08:08] <jspark> welcome, rixxon
[08:08] <penguinwhoflew> farous: yes
[08:08] <farous> ok type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep fglrx
[08:09] <farous> i wana make sure that it is in the xorg.conf file
[08:09] <st3v3dnd> dsas: alright, thanks.
[08:09] <Crypt> IPWireless 3G USB modem with Dapper. Anyone know how??? It doesnt assign the ports right
[08:09] <JediLow> axion: alright, thanks! I'll be sure to start asking if I can' fix it
[08:09] <disasm> with dapper, trying to get bcm4306 to work, got bcm43xx-firmware from cafuego's mirror, anything I have to do after that for it to work?
[08:09] <axion`> JediLow: np, glad i could help
[08:10] <iiiears> myleftfoot there are some on the gov site hosting the ftp link - the second line middle of that line "united states"
[08:10] <JediLow> axion: ha... you've even got the same processor
[08:10] <davidleeroth> i have an abit kn8-sli mobo with 1gb ram and an amd 64 3700+.  I am trying to install the i386 version if that helps.
[08:10] <myleftfoot> iiiears: let me go see if it matches mine
[08:10] <concept10> disasm, you have to extract the firmware
[08:10] <farous> penguinwhoflew: type fglrxinfo if it gave you your card number and driver for it. ie did not say mesa driver you are good
[08:11] <iiiears> myleftfoot - What is the best app for linux to use gpg checking for Ubutnu? windows?
[08:11] <penguinwhoflew> what about the xorg thing?
[08:11] <penguinwhoflew> don't i ahve to change that
[08:11] <concept10> disasm, using bcm43xx-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[08:11] <farous> the how to did that for you
[08:11] <concept10> disasm, apt-get install that and extract to lib/firmware
[08:11] <disasm> concept10: doesn't the bcm43xx-firmware from cafuego's repos have already extracted firmware?
[08:11] <farous> aticonfig --initial did that for you
[08:12] <disasm> concept10: it puts a bunch of stuff in /lib/firmware
[08:12] <concept10> disasm, is it one file?
[08:12] <penguinwhoflew> farous:  i have two devices in my xorg.cong
[08:12] <penguinwhoflew> one says ati one says fglrx..>?!
[08:12] <myleftfoot> iiiears: i think the amd64 one matches mine...
[08:12] <davidleeroth> is anyone here an expert yet on Dapper and would like to help me?
[08:12] <concept10> disasm, you should have files such as bcm43xx_initval05.fw    bcm43xx_microcode2.fw
[08:13] <farous> penguinwhoflew: post your xorg.conf file on the pastebin
[08:13] <farous> !tell penguinwhoflew about pastebin
[08:13] <dsas> !tell davidleeroth about questions
[08:13] <RossH> wooohoo....got qemu installed on dapper running windows xp and slax
[08:13] <heisler> exit
[08:13] <dsas> davidleeroth: Don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask a question.
[08:13] <penguinwhoflew> farous: i know about pastebin... not THAT big a noob.
[08:13] <concept10> disasm, if you dont have files like that in lib/firmware, you need to extract the firmware using the fwcutter
[08:13] <farous> ok :)
[08:13] <stevekl> Does anyone here use irssi?
[08:13] <klormexor> stevekl: i ido
[08:13] <concept10> disasm, its easy, takes a second
[08:13] <TokenBad> anyone tell me what this means? W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _breezy Badger_ - Release i386
[08:13] <penguinwhoflew> farous: http://pastebin.com/752911
[08:14] <davidleeroth> i did, but it gets buried in scrolling text and people forget what I even asked.
[08:14] <stevekl> klormexor: do you get a problem with weird pauses?
[08:14] <Caminomaster> hey, can someone tell me how 2 crack a zip encrypted file?
[08:14] <BHSPitMonkey> During 6.06 install; Choosing to edit the partition table myself; the CD light starts going busy for a long time, during which ubuntu is near-frozen; this seems to not end
[08:14] <myleftfoot> iiiears: i use seahorse
[08:14] <BHSPitMonkey> any thoughts
[08:14] <iiiears> Okay, - no luck for me. - the paranoid inside me would like to use gpg. - what apps are available for Ubuntu and windows?
[08:14] <disasm> concept10: initval01-initval10 microcodede2-5,11 and pcm4-5
[08:14] <Killaz> I'm having problem running the su command
[08:14] <stevekl> TokenBad: sources.list is looking for your cd rom and it's not in the drive
[08:14] <TokenBad> stevekl, yes it is...
[08:14] <iiiears> seahors - ah, very good. I'll give that a try.
[08:14] <klormexor> stevekl: as in like lag?
[08:14] <farous> penguinwhoflew: i think you added the first one the ati one for xgl. comment it
[08:14] <iiiears> Dapper is out! a great day don't you think? - (Wide grin) - Thanks guys. :)
[08:14] <disasm> concept10: so with that stuff in /lib/firmware it should just work?
[08:15] <stevekl> TokenBad: well, apt says it's not
[08:15] <joevandyk> Hooray for release!  If I want to 'lock' to the Ubuntu release plus security updates, would I want the dapper-updates in my sources.list file?
[08:15] <dsas> !tell Killaz about sudo
[08:15] <penguinwhoflew> farous: the whole 1st section?
[08:15] <concept10> disasm, you had those already?
[08:15] <Killaz> for example su /etc/init.d/networking restart tells me: Unknown id: /etc/ninit.d/networking
[08:15] <rixxon> jspark: the subs are like, unreadable :p
[08:15] <stevekl> klormexor: well, no, when I type in something, it takes like a second for the text to appear as I type it
[08:15] <stevekl> klormexor: I don't think it's network lag
[08:15] <farous> penguinwhoflew: go to the screen section and tell me which device the screen use
[08:15] <Crypt> anyone here have IPW 3G USB modem on DAPPER????
[08:15] <klormexor> oh
[08:15] <dsas> Killaz: You need to type sudo rather than su
[08:15] <klormexor> might be a task in the background runing slowing this process down
[08:15] <stevekl> maybe
[08:15] <klormexor> use top to check whats running
[08:15] <penguinwhoflew> farous: aticonfig-Device[0]
[08:16] <Jad> hello
[08:16] <disasm> concept10: yeah
[08:16] <farous> ok you are good
[08:16] <TokenBad> whats the paste bin url again...?
[08:16] <sten> hi.  I just upgraded to Dapper, however the 2.6.15 kernel hangs after loading the ICH4 IDE module.  (at least, I think that its loading the module.  hda looses its IRQ after the ICH4 info is outputted)  I'm currently running my old Breezy kernel, with the Dapper userspace...though there are problems.  Does anyone know of a workaround for the ICH4 hang?
[08:16] <jspark> rixxon: how big is the .sub file
[08:16] <concept10> disasm, do you have the module (driver) loaded? lsmod | grep bcm43
[08:16] <Killaz> dsas: why? su was working just fine.....
[08:16] <penguinwhoflew> but xgl is still slow as hell
[08:16] <rixxon> jspark: 2.2mb
[08:16] <joevandyk> what's included in "dapper-updates" in sources.lsit?
[08:16] <farous> penguinwhoflew: did you reboot yet
[08:16] <stevekl> klormexor: irssi is using like 43% of the CPU, is that too muhch?
[08:16] <rixxon> stevekl: depends on the cpu? :P
[08:16] <klormexor> stevekl:  cpu type?
[08:16] <penguinwhoflew> farous: yes
[08:16] <dsas> Killaz: Because su /path/to/command tries to change your user to the file. Which isn't a user.
[08:16] <disasm> concept10: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/ that's where I got them, yeah, it's loaded shows as eth1
[08:16] <jspark> rixxon: oh, i was thinking of .srt. those are the binary images used by VobSub on Windows
[08:16] <Killaz> dsas: the system has a month without needing any maintaince and now suddenly I need to run sudo instead of su?
[08:17] <viola> hi. dows anyone know how i can do a safe upgrade from breezy to dapper using the alternate cd?
[08:17] <dsas> Killaz: No, you just need to type su, press enter, then type the command
[08:17] <penguinwhoflew> farous: i will try again
[08:17] <TokenBad> whats the url for pasting errors to again?
[08:17] <penguinwhoflew> back to the boot...
[08:17] <farous> penguinwhoflew: strange for i am sure you need the BusID in the fglrx device. perhaps they changed it
[08:17] <dsas> !tell TokenBad about pastebin
[08:17] <smllpx> has anyone had any luck installing php pdo_mysql ?
[08:17] <farous> penguinwhoflew: wait
[08:17] <rixxon> jspark: yea, and .idx is an image extracted from a dvd
[08:17] <joevandyk> What's included in "dapper-updates" in sources.list?
[08:17] <Fujitsu> joevandyk, Dapper updates.
[08:17] <klormexor> farous: wouldnt he have to do the 8.18 ugprade? i did the howtoati and the graphics were still crappy
[08:17] <joevandyk> Fujitsu: but not security updates?
[08:18] <Killaz> dsas: wtf: when I type su and the password it tells me: authentication failure....
[08:18] <farous> 8.18?
[08:18] <sten> does anyone here have a success story with Dapper on an ICH4 motherboard?  (it's not working for me...)
[08:18] <Fujitsu> joevandyk, updates that aren't security-specific.
[08:18] <disasm> concept10: you think it would work better if I just used fwcutter? or is there a step I'm missing?
[08:18] <Crypt> anyone here have IPW 3G USB modem on DAPPER????
[08:18] <Killaz> and this password is for sure the correct one!
[08:18] <joevandyk> Fujitsu: program version updates?  I thought software versions were locked
[08:18] <Killaz> damn how is this possible?
[08:18] <farous> 8.24 worked same here as 8.25.18
[08:18] <dsas> Killaz: Are you sure you have a root password? (Ubuntu doesn't by default) If so, are you sure you know it.
[08:18] <Fujitsu> joevandyk, not quite. Bug-fixes, for example, are in updates.
[08:19] <Kream> hi all
[08:19] <jspark> rixxon: docs say Mplayer can play with the -vobsub and -vobsubid options
[08:19] <klormexor> farous: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide i did this after the ATIhowTo,
[08:19] <Killaz> dsas: lol this system is near my desk at home... just a LAMP, Fileserver I have running for 2 months now..
[08:19] <rixxon> jspark: i've heard mplayer is hardcore hightech? :)
[08:19] <joevandyk> Fujitsu: oh, hm.  Just wondering if I should enable the updates in addition to the security updates.
[08:19] <klormexor> farous: oh right, 8.18+
[08:19] <Killaz> I setup the thing and everything....
[08:19] <TokenBad> stevekl, here is the url to the full error stuff: http://gnomefreek.pastebin.com/752916
[08:19] <rixxon> jspark: anyways, vlc does play them, but displays them very ugly
[08:19] <dsas> Killaz: Passwords don't just change :p
[08:19] <JediLow> axion: Alright... I'm having trouble at the beginning. The 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' returns the error 'Package nvidia-glx is no available [...]  E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation canidate' - how do I get nvidia-glx then?
[08:19] <Fujitsu> joevandyk, I see no reason not to.
[08:19] <Kream> i'm looking for .jigdo files/templates for the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 but mysteriously they're one of the few for which .jigdos are not available
[08:19] <farous> klormexor: did you type fglrxinfo and see if you are not using mesa. mesa= no 3-d accel
[08:20] <jspark> rixxon: i think mplayer is beyond ugly, hard to use, and generally gross. but it plays everything.
[08:20] <viola> hi. i am trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper using the alternate cd. is it safe to do it via synaptic or is there a installer app?
[08:20] <concept10> disasm, im not sure, BUT .. if you grabbed the firmware after the driver was already loaded, rmmod (the two modules) and modprobe bcm43...blah ... this way it will load the proper firmware
[08:20] <Killaz> dsas: so in this case it has....omg!!!!
[08:20] <stevekl> TokenBad: er sorry, I am trying to diagnose a problem of my own here
[08:20] <Kream> is there someone here who's involved with the ubuntu release ? or somewhere I can find them ?
[08:20] <farous> klormexor: or glxinfo |grep render. try glxgears and see how many frams too if you have 3-d accel
[08:20] <rixxon> jspark: heh :p
[08:20] <smllpx> I've tried installing php's pecl pdo_mysql using the command "pecl install mysql_pdo" it install pdo fine but then borks on the pdo_mysql saying that pdo isn't enabled.
[08:20] <TokenBad> stevekl, ok..no problem...
[08:20] <rixxon> jspark: i'll try, thanks for help
[08:20] <Killaz> dsas: Im not joking man..  I have a simple gub question. I can't seem to get my config right...
[08:20] <klormexor> farous: ah gime a sec le tme check
[08:20] <TokenBad> does anyone else know how to fix this error:  http://gnomefreek.pastebin.com/752916
[08:20] <JyZky> WHY I GET THIS ERROR ON CD CHECK OR INSTALL (BUFFER I/O ERROR ON DEVICE GDC LOGICAL BLOCK
[08:20] <made> !grub question
[08:21] <ubotu> made: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <klormexor> farous:  give me the complete command
[08:21] <disasm> concept10: I think we got it, thanks!
[08:21] <made> sorry for the mispel
[08:21] <Lynoure> Kream: What do you want to find them for? the ubuntu website has contact info, I bet
[08:21] <dsas> Kream: Try asking your question here, if no-one can help they'll be able to refer you to the right place.
[08:21] <disasm> concept10: was deactivated ;-)
[08:21] <Killaz> dsas I have two users on this system root and another without root privilges...
[08:21] <davidleeroth> i cant get ANYTHING to work because the OS won't even install.
[08:21] <JyZky> !grub BUFFER I/O ERROR
[08:21] <ubotu> JyZky: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:21] <farous> klormexor: type fglrxinfo and tell me what output you have
[08:21] <Kream> JyZky, hardware error - either your drive or your cd is screwed
[08:21] <concept10> disasm, you rmmod and modprobe and that worked?
[08:21] <made> umm no
[08:21] <Killaz> dsas: maybe if I restart the server...
[08:21] <JyZky> ok its cd :)
[08:21] <dsas> Killaz: Just reset the root password and try again
[08:21] <JyZky> cause drive is working fine with windows ^^
[08:21] <made> just setting the default boot
[08:21] <JediLow> I need help - I need to use the nvidia-glx package, but with a fresh install of Ubuntu Dapper I don't have the package (error I get is 'E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation canidate')
[08:21] <Kream> TokenBad, possibly bad cd
[08:22] <jmworx> Is the 6.06 CD also a live CD or did I pick the wrong one? (installed like a charm anyway, so just curious)
[08:22] <JyZky> kream ok its cd
[08:22] <Kream> Lynoure, I was looking for the .jigdo file for ubuntu-6.06-desktop - that's one of the few releases that doesn't have jigdo files
[08:22] <disasm> concept10: did that a while ago, had to enable the device
[08:22] <Killaz> dsas: reset? how can I reset? I should enter the ubuntu installation CD back in and start all over again?
[08:22] <klormexor> farous: ATI Tech...9600  8.25.18 version string 2.0.5814
[08:22] <DShepherd> jmworx: technically it is..
[08:22] <dsas> jmworx: Yes. There's the desktop one which is combined live and installer, and alternative which is text mode
[08:22] <made> where can I post long text.. gimme a link? please
[08:22] <dsas> Killaz: With your second user type sudo passwd root
[08:22] <TokenBad> Kream, its one that was sent to me through mail
[08:22] <dsas> !tell made about pastebin
[08:22] <JyZky> kream lol tried 3 cds ^^ all got diff errors
[08:22] <YourNick> Where can i finde Repositories for 6.06 ?
[08:22] <made> thx
[08:23] <Kream> JyZky, is it possible the drive itself is screwed ?
[08:23] <farous> klormexor: how about glxinfo | grep render
[08:23] <jmworx> dsas: So there is no separate live and install CDs anymore?
[08:23] <frank_> YourNick: 6.06  is dapper
[08:23] <jmworx> (not that I mind)
[08:23] <DShepherd> !tell YourNick about upgrade
[08:23] <dsas> jmworx: Nope
[08:23] <Kream> TokenBad, you already got a dapper cd by mail  ?
[08:23] <Killaz> dsas: OK Im doing a hot reboot...
[08:23] <YourNick> Yes where do i find Repositories for dapper
[08:24] <a2xm> hi all... how to activate the SSH access to my ubuntu?
[08:24] <klormexor> GLX_ATI_render_texture, OpenGL render string: Mobility RADEON 9600 Generic, direct rendering: yes
[08:24] <JediLow> Can someone help? To fix a problem I'm having I'm supposed to install nvidia-glx... when I do the commands I'm supposed to I get the error 'E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation canidate'; help?
[08:24] <farous> klormexor: you are good
[08:24] <dsas> a2xm: you need to install openssh-server
[08:24] <frank_> a2xm: install openssh-server    using synaptic
[08:24] <TokenBad> Kream, no...breezy cd..which is what its looking for..but anywho...I commented it out...and its working
[08:24] <smllpx> a2xm, $ sudo apt-get install ssh will do it
[08:24] <axion`> anyone have a clue when ia32-libs-dev will be rls'd for Dapper?
[08:24] <farous> klormexor: now type fgl_glxgears
[08:24] <scheuri> hi al
[08:24] <farous> use tab completion
[08:24] <scheuri> all
[08:24] <Kream> is there someone here who knows where I can find the people who're involved in the dapper release process ?
[08:25] <klormexor> farous: so.. maybe he needs the 8.18+ version up to 8.25 to get his card going?
[08:25] <alanhs> a2xm: and you need to start sshd -> /etc/init.d/sshd start
[08:25] <crimsun> Kream: hi?
[08:25] <Kream> crimsun:  hi
[08:25] <frank_> Kream: there probably are some here right now
[08:25] <farous> klormexor: i had it working with teh drivers from teh repos
[08:26] <Killaz> ok everything started just fine....
[08:26] <farous> klormexor: he might be down on ram or his xorg.conf file might be corrupted
[08:26] <made> here is my os selection on the menu1st http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/752923 <-- can somebody tell me what number my Windows partition would be?
[08:26] <JediLow> axion': I'm getting the error 'E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation canidate'
[08:26] <made> I thought it would be 8
[08:26] <Killaz> sudo passwd root you said?
[08:26] <a2xm> thanks guys, I'll try
[08:26] <Kream> crimsun & other assorted dapper-releasers : I've already downloaded the xubuntu iso and since I think there will be some overlap b/w it and ubuntu -desktop, I wanted to use the .jigdo files to build the iso image for dapper - like I did for breezy. only problem is that there's no jigdo file for ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386
[08:26] <dsas> Killaz: Should work if the second user is in the neccessary groups
[08:26] <frank_> made: /dev/hda1
[08:26] <Kream> crimsun:  /me checked on about 4 mirrors - taiwan, and a couple of US mirrors as well
[08:27] <klormexor> farous: I had it with 8.18 but the 1024x768 problem, had me jump to 8.25 so i could go up to 1280x800. or I'd have 2 big horiz. gaps. The original repo was 'ati' and rendered at like 30% really bad
[08:27] <axion`> JediLow, sorry, i dont know what that means =(. you did use the sudo prefix right?
[08:27] <michael__> I'm currently running Ubuntu 5.10, what's the command to update to 6.06?
[08:27] <klormexor> farous: ouch, i hope thats not it
[08:27] <made> ok so when I want to load Windows as my default what should I put inline for that command?
[08:27] <Killaz> dsas: yup it works...
[08:27] <farous> klormexor: the repos have the 8.24 driver
[08:27] <Killaz> worked*
[08:27] <klormexor> farous: oh
[08:27] <made> ## default num
[08:28] <Killaz> dsas: I still find it very strange that my password has change
[08:28] <farous> klormexor: so how fast is xgl working for you. for me i did not like it a lot got bored of it after a while
[08:28] <klormexor> farous: then i went 8.24, 8.18 and back to 8.25. what a mess
[08:28] <JediLow> axion': yeah... I did the 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' the error returned is this: 'Package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: package nvidia-glx has no installation canidate'
[08:28] <farous> lol
[08:28] <frank_> made: oh... ummm
[08:28] <Kream> crimsun:  all desktop releases of ubuntu are without the .jigdo files
[08:28] <Kream> strange
[08:28] <klormexor> farous: nah I runn the Molecule screensaver and i get 60fps really nice
[08:28] <dsas> Killaz: You're not running any open ports are you? The only thing I can think of, is that you got haxed.
[08:29] <frank_> made 5 or 6 I forget
[08:29] <axion`> hmm, that sounds like a repository problem, which i dont know how to fix
[08:29] <penguinwhoflew> farous: whew. so the screen that pointed to the right device was apparently not the default one...
[08:29] <colk> which is the best cd to get for a athlon 64
[08:29] <penguinwhoflew> i think i'm good now though
[08:29] <farous> penguinwhoflew: cool
[08:29] <JediLow> axion: ok... think a new install would clear it up?
[08:29] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew: for real?
[08:29] <axion`> but im by no means an expert, im sure someone else here can help you more in depth
[08:29] <Killaz> dsas: I'm running a couple of open ports
[08:29] <penguinwhoflew> klormexor: fashizzle.
[08:29] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  check with your screensaver
[08:29] <axion`> a fresh install wouldnt hurt, if thats an option for you
[08:29] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew: woo hooo, where ya from
[08:29] <Fujitsu> Kream, they can't be built by jigdo.
[08:29] <JediLow> Yeah... I'll try that and see how it works.
[08:30] <frank_> colk: desktop-amd64   but it's easier if you just use  desktop-i386 instead
[08:30] <penguinwhoflew> klormexor: 100% better. Amarillo, Texas.
[08:30] <Kream> Fujitsu:  because of bootcode?
[08:30] <dsas> Killaz: Are you running sshd? and you may want to check for rootkits
[08:30] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  hehe had a friend from dallas say foshizzle!!
[08:30] <colk> ok
[08:30] <Fujitsu> Kream, because they aren't made up of packages like the rest.
[08:30] <klormexor> farous: congrats! phew.. glad it worked
[08:30] <frank_> colk: i386 is easier for windows codec support and flash and things like that
[08:30] <doofy> what are the advantages to a clean install over sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:30] <Killaz> dsas:yup I'm runing sshd. What do you mean with rootkits?
[08:30] <richiefrich> Killaz  chkrootkit
[08:30] <farous> ok take care guys got to go now :)
[08:31] <no0ke> what's the problem when i play music, it sounds like im fast-forwarding it, sounds like a cartoon?
[08:31] <klormexor> see ya farous
[08:31] <richiefrich> Killaz  u heard of the sony root kit, kinda lik that
[08:31] <rixxon> jspark: Cannot load subtitles: /home/rixxon/Movies/bmt-sc.sub
[08:31] <Mageknight> how do i avoid the checking root file system
[08:31] <Lynoure> doofy: you get rid of your non-standard programs and settings... thatubuntu server permanent installation's about it =)
[08:31] <jspark> rixxon: what switches did you use
[08:31] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  Have you seen the screensaver section? chose molecule and rendertype is GL, and preview it, if it renders at over 30fps, its a GO!
[08:31] <made> frank_: would it be in the order seperated by the title? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/752933
[08:31] <rixxon> jspark: mplayer bmt-sc.avi -vobsub bmt-sc.sub -vobsubid 0
[08:31] <dsas> Killaz: If you haven't changed your password, then someone else must have, so presumably your machine has been compromised.
[08:32] <Mageknight> its says for every 30 times i mount it checks forcefully
[08:32] <rixxon> jspark: also tried -vobsub bmt-sc.idx
[08:32] <penguinwhoflew> klormexor: where are you choosing your saver at, mine has no options just a chooser
[08:32] <richiefrich> Mageknight u can change that
[08:32] <jspark> rixxon: try without .sub extension
[08:32] <Killaz> dsas: ****
[08:32] <rixxon> jspark: right, duh
[08:32] <scheuri> Mageknight: you DO NOT want to avoid that check!!
[08:32] <doofy> Lynoure: would it be worth it? because i already have it running right now
[08:32] <frank_> made: yeah but I don't know if it starts at 0 or at 1
[08:32] <Killaz> sorry for my french...
[08:32] <Mageknight> richiefrich: How
[08:32] <Mageknight> richiefrich: How do i fix it on my own
[08:32] <rixxon> jspark: same error
[08:32] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  System -> Preferences -> Screensaver?
[08:32] <richiefrich> Mageknight u can run fsck
[08:32] <scheuri> Mageknight: I really urge you NOT to change that
[08:32] <penguinwhoflew> klormexor: aye, in dapper?
[08:32] <meff> hi all, i currently run debian sid, and i am pretty accustomed to newer pkgs coming in, some bugs, etc.. and willing to fix them if need be. if anyone could compare how stable the ubuntu dev tree is in comparison to debian sid, i'd really appreciate it. i'd love to use ubuntu but if i have to stick to the 6mo cycle for newer apps or kernels and such, i dont think i can wait that out :)
[08:32] <Lynoure> doofy: I'd personally consider it a drawback of a fresh install
[08:32] <klormexor> breezy
[08:33] <colk> Mageknight, because its a good way to end up with a bad disc
[08:33] <richiefrich> scheuri u can chage that to do it more often  is what i meant
[08:33] <Kream> Mageknight:  i agree with scheuri
[08:33] <klormexor> not familiar where the SS is in Dapperr
[08:33] <made> frank_: ok.. I'll try 5, 6 or 7.. if It works out I'll cya on the flip side.. .
[08:33] <Killaz> dsas: damn I have to go now.. but where can I check for more info on this rootkit thing?
[08:33] <penguinwhoflew> klormexor: ah, i'm in dapper
[08:33] <Mageknight> richiefrich: after a few weeks of using it i suddenly cant log in until i followed that command fsck
[08:33] <Lynoure> doofy: But if you have loads of problems now or a disk full of software you don't use, it might be a perk.
[08:33] <scheuri> richiefrich: ah, sorry...I thought he want to make it disappear..
[08:33] <colk> Killaz, www.chkrootkit.org
[08:33] <doofy> Lynoure:  so i wouldn't really gain anything? i have it all set up. would there be performance advantages?
[08:33] <Mageknight> richiefrich: how do i update my mplayer??
[08:33] <richiefrich> scheuri no i do it more often
[08:33] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  anyway just get something to really rip your GPU and watch it goo :d
[08:33] <klormexor> :D
[08:33] <doofy> Lynoure: no, no problems. the install is perfect.
[08:33] <rixxon> jspark: it would seem the titles work now, although still getting the error. anyways its not readable! :(
[08:33] <Killaz> dsas: or where can I check which ports they accessed?
[08:34] <Killaz> colk: thnx
[08:34] <scheuri> richiefrich: tune2fs is probably the keyword
[08:34] <rixxon> jspark: any -make-subs-readable switch, or so?
[08:34] <Mageknight> richiefrich: every time i play VCD an error always shows up. but i can still play it
[08:34] <richiefrich> Mageknight apt-get update mplayer
[08:34] <Lynoure> doofy: Probably no advantages, then. (AFAIK, I'm not a ubuntu developer, just a user)
[08:34] <jspark> rixxon: how do you mean not readable?
[08:34] <colk> ive never tried ubantu before
[08:34] <penguinwhoflew> klormexor: ahahahaha, found it. first time i clicked Atunnel it CRAWLED, now i can barely see the pattern on the wall
[08:34] <scheuri> Mageknight: your filesystems checks itself every 30 reboot or after a certaint to make sure its healthy...just let it do its job...
[08:34] <colk> i have used linux before though
[08:34] <richiefrich> Mageknight what u using ? ext3/jfs/reiseFS
[08:34] <rixxon> jspark: uh, 'cluttered'
[08:35] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  lol awesome, thats 3D for ya!
[08:35] <Mageknight> richiefrich: whats ext3/jfs/reiseFS
[08:35] <doofy> colk your missing out :o
[08:35] <penguinwhoflew> well, night
[08:35] <xukun> !abotu upgrade
[08:35] <colk> which is why im downloading the cd
[08:35] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xukun
[08:35] <colk> :P
[08:35] <klormexor> penguinwhoflew:  awesome, thats great, glad its running for you, feels good hehe
[08:35] <richiefrich> Mageknight  there's different tools for them all.. what ones failing  ext3?
[08:35] <xukun> ! abotu upgrade
[08:35] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xukun
[08:35] <Mageknight> scheuri: thanks i thought i was in trouble.
[08:35] <Kream> Mageknight:  what problem are you having ?
[08:35] <scheuri> Mageknight: you are if fsck comes up with errors...:)
[08:35] <Mageknight> richiefrich: i dont know it something like IoC error
[08:36] <oat|fr> Is there something special I need to do to get 1280x800 mode working when running on Virtual PC? I've added it to my xorg.conf file with a matching ModeLine entry, by the log file still says that it isn't using 1280x800 since no mode for that exists
[08:36] <ja1> How to  install ubuntu-session and edubutu-session both on the same machine?
[08:36] <rixxon> jspark: its readable on fullscreen - but still hard to read... some error with my codecs, since i had same problem with vlc?
[08:36] <rixxon> jspark: doesn't both mplayer and vlc use own codecs anyway :p
[08:36] <Mageknight> richiefrich: i dont know its something like IoC error
[08:36] <richiefrich> Mageknight i know what partition?  the jfs/resierFS/or the ext3
[08:36] <klormexor> !PDB
[08:36] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, klormexor
[08:36] <cam> if I put a script under /etc/rc.boot/ , is it read when i boot ?
[08:36] <jspark> rixx: yeah, vlc doesn't even use codecs it's all native, iirc
[08:36] <klormexor> anyone know where I can find PDB files
[08:36] <rixxon> jspark: maybe they share some OSD driver? :S
[08:37] <Mageknight> richiefrich: how will i know that???
[08:37] <jspark> rixx: you can change the position or speed of the subs, would that help
[08:37] <richiefrich> Mageknight run what scheuri said  if fsck isnt working  tune2fs
[08:37] <bender> hi
[08:37] <rixxon> jspark: not really. its like, pixlish, cluttered, bold.. hard to explain
[08:37] <richiefrich> Mageknight whats the dev?
[08:37] <Mageknight> richiefrich: to fix my mplayer???
[08:37] <bender> any one else having issues with the dapper install???
[08:38] <xukun> | abotu upgrade
[08:38] <scheuri> Mageknight: no, that was for your filesystem...
[08:38] <richiefrich> Mageknight no u said about the partition failing not ?
[08:38] <jspark> rixx: have you thought about getting .srt subs from another source? like divxsubtitles.net
[08:38] <richiefrich> scheuri ty
[08:38] <Mageknight> richiefrich: no it doesnt fail or any
[08:38] <rixxon> jspark: i'll try, although it's a very rare movie :p
[08:38] <viola> hi. if i do a clean dapper install, will my current application configs be kept? i have a separate /home partition
[08:38] <rixxon> jspark: (i think)
[08:38] <bender> hey im trying to install 6.06 .. any one else having issues?
[08:38] <Mageknight> richiefrich: i just want to fix my mplayer
[08:38] <richiefrich> scheuri i thought i mixed up the names
[08:38] <Killaz> Aha I found some papres about intruders etc... on that chrootkit.org thnx....
[08:38] <scheuri> richiefrich: no worries...:)
[08:38] <richiefrich> Mageknight then uninstall it and reinstall it again
[08:39] <Madpilot> viola: most of them, you'll have to reinstall any apps that aren't part of the standard install, though
[08:39] <Mageknight> how do i uninstall it??
[08:39] <scheuri> bender: what issues? please be specific
[08:39] <ja1> oat|fr: the maximum VPC usable resolution is 1024x768x16. Using vesa driver you can get higher resolution but only on 256 colors and it look ugly
[08:39] <jspark> rixx: if worst came to worst, you could always try it with VobSub on Windows
[08:39] <cam> ok nm just found the answer : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6963 ;)
[08:39] <richiefrich> or try from source
[08:39] <xukun> ! abotu upgrade
[08:39] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xukun
[08:39] <xukun> ! abotu dapper
[08:39] <ubotu> xukun: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:39] <viola> Madpilot, i need to know if i need to take precautions with some key apps, like evolution. i don't wanna trash my mail
[08:39] <rixxon> jspark: i don't have any windows computers left! :p
[08:39] <colk> ! ubotu ugpgrade
[08:39] <ubotu> colk: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:39] <richiefrich> Mageknight  apt-get remove mplayer
[08:39] <colk> hm
[08:40] <colk> bots broke:p
[08:40] <Mageknight> richiefrich: OK
[08:40] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[08:40] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[08:40] <bender> scheuri, i cant even get it to boot.. i keep getting IO errors when i try to start the install.. gets one "OK" and then IO errors forever.. 3 computers , 2 different ISO downloads and 5 burns and i cant get it to work
[08:40] <Madpilot> there's nothing wrong with the bot
[08:40] <richiefrich> Mageknight  then reinstall it
[08:40] <richiefrich> Mageknight  apt-get install  mplayer
[08:40] <viola> Madpilot, i know they're in the .evolution folder inside /home, will it overwrite it when installed again?
[08:40] <jspark> rixx: you could try transcoding it with the subs burned in
[08:40] <scheuri> bender: have you checked the MD5 sum of the downloads? and have you tried to burn it on CD-R with 8x and not faster?
[08:40] <Madpilot> viola: it might not be a bad idea to backup some stuff to CD, but no, anything in your home partition should be OK
[08:40] <rixxon> jspark: or i could live with hard-to-read-but-readable :p
[08:40] <nubee> thanks guys, i found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades extremely helpful :) gg's
[08:41] <samu> My update to dapper seems to have stopped with a FutureWarning
[08:41] <bender> scheuri, im burning at like 40x i believe .. is that fine?
[08:41] <jspark> rixx: yeah, you might need to do that. just concentrate -- and watch it twice :)
[08:41] <richiefrich> Mageknight or compile form source --> apt-build  iirc
[08:41] <samu> apt API not stable yet
[08:41] <Mageknight> richiefrich: OK
[08:41] <viola> Madpilot, cool, so the apps should just recognize the old files and keep them (sorry about insisting :)
[08:41] <richiefrich> Mageknight i like source it's better
[08:41] <scheuri> bender: not really...there are some issues with that...try burn it slower...and then boot again...I suggest 8x
[08:42] <richiefrich> but i forget  if it's apt-build
[08:42] <bender> scheuri, any other suggestions???
[08:42] <Tatey> Hey guys, does anyone know if it's possible to perform an install of ubuntu-server over SSH?
[08:42] <richiefrich> much better burns
[08:42] <khatun> LTS = ?
[08:42] <Tatey> long term support
[08:42] <khatun> ah, ok. thank you
[08:43] <frank_> khatun: 3 years on desktop and 5 on server
[08:43] <scheuri> bender: beside burning it slower and try booting again with that? not yet...:)
[08:43] <DarkMageZ> khatun, desktop supported for 3 years, server 5
[08:43] <Tatey> more or less means supported packages (as in security updates) for an extended period of time
[08:43] <nubee> viola, use an imap server, and you'll never worry about losing mail from your workstation
[08:43] <klormexor> well im goin to crash for a big
[08:43] <richiefrich> Tatey u can gentoo that all i know
[08:43] <klormexor> bbl
[08:43] <bender> scheuri, narly thanks
[08:43] <scheuri> bender: welcome
[08:43] <Tatey> richiefrich: Yes, I come froma Gentoo background. I was curious if it was possible to do with Ubuntu-server
[08:43] <samu> oh... "Upgrading with the Update Manager" "This has been reported as not working yet (as of June 1). Please use the method below." well plzzzz......
[08:43] <viola> nubee, i like keeping them inside my hd :)
[08:43] <richiefrich> Tatey idk
[08:44] <Tatey> idk, sorry?
[08:44] <rixxon> jspark: thanks for taking the time anyway, cheers! movie time
[08:44] <richiefrich> Tatey i dont know
[08:44] <Tatey> ahh okay, thanks though
[08:44] <khatun> frank_ & DarkMageZ: yeah, just wondered what the letters mean
[08:44] <jspark> rixx: have fun!
[08:44] <richiefrich> Tatey  np
[08:45] <samu> Maybe they should have taken a few days to work on the update-manager before announcing this grand new release.
[08:45] <frank_> khatun: I think they wanted something 'enterprise'-like without using the word 'enterprise'...
[08:45] <khatun> frank_: hehe, ok :)
[08:45] <axion`> what's a symlink and how do i make one?
[08:45] <Mageknight> richiefrich: somethings wrong
[08:45] <richiefrich> Tatey  if u cant i think they shouls add that
[08:45] <davidleeroth> hey guys
[08:45] <richiefrich> Mageknight  ?
[08:46] <Mageknight> richiefrich: when i check for updates they say theres i broken file
[08:46] <Tatey> richiefrich: I agree
[08:46] <richiefrich> Mageknight  what file
[08:46] <samu> and the other way to upgrade your system has this nice llittle comment "EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! Make sure you type  dist-upgrade  rather than  upgrade . The process will totally hose your machine and render it *completely unbootable* otherwise." thats awesome too...
[08:46] <richiefrich> Tatey  i think all distros u should be able to, but iirc gentoo is the only one
[08:47] <GeorgeAScott> i'm trying to install opera and its telling me that i need xlib6g... and i can't find it with synaptic or apt-get.. can anybody tell me what repository it is in
[08:47] <Tatey> richiefrich: FreeBSD does too
[08:47] <nubee> 1266 upgraded, 160 newly installed, 52 to remove and 6 not upgraded. Need to get 814MB of archives. After unpacking 159MB of additional disk space will be used. oooooooo
[08:47] <nubee> omfg
[08:48] <Mageknight> richiefrich: how will i like locate it, they say to use some locator ???
[08:48] <richiefrich> Tatey thats technical not linux
[08:48] <richiefrich> Mageknight whats the error ?>
[08:48] <nubee> i'm going to need pizza and b33r
[08:48] <richiefrich> nubee can i get a slice ?
[08:49] <colk> nubee, thats nothing
[08:49] <nubee> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? Y
[08:49] <richiefrich> Y
[08:49] <Corey> guys ive totally stuffed up my graphics driver is there a way to revert back to the default ?
[08:49] <richiefrich> Corey u mean in xorg.conf
[08:49] <grunt> Hi, I was just wondering if someone could help me.  I added some lines to the Startup Sessions located under ("Menu System" -> "Preferences" -> "Sessions"). In doing so now X won't start properly
[08:49] <Mageknight> richiefrich: software index is broken
[08:49] <Mageknight> richiefrich: that what it says on the update manager
[08:49] <Mageknight> richiefrich: i cant remove or install packages unless i fix it
[08:49] <Corey> I was trying to install xgl and totally stuffed up everything
[08:50] <Corey> richiefrich: yes
[08:50] <grunt> can anyone tell me hwere the file is located so i can edit it using pico
[08:50] <richiefrich> Corey did u save a backup?
[08:50] <Corey> richiefrich: no
[08:50] <richiefrich> Mageknight apt-get update
[08:50] <richiefrich> Corey man u make it hard
[08:50] <mikedep333> hey guys, is there an quick way to install all the corresponding -doc packages for all the packages I already have installed?
[08:50] <richiefrich> Corey  :)  or then go edit the file and change the driver
[08:50] <Corey> richiefrich: When I installed 5.10 it worked perfect then i messed arounf with something and now games are mega laggy
[08:51] <mikedep333> (I have the main synaptic and a terminal open)
[08:51] <Mageknight> richiefrich: could not open file
[08:51] <Corey> Is there a way to use a default graphics or something ?
[08:51] <hangfire> any pro linux admins here that can tell me about linux certification?
[08:51] <Mageknight> richiefrich: could not open lock file
[08:51] <richiefrich> Corey  u lost 3d exceleration
[08:51] <Corey> cause it did it good when i just installed..
[08:51] <Corey> richiefrich: YES!
[08:51] <richiefrich> Corey u can try.. xorgconfig
[08:51] <richiefrich> xorgcfg
[08:51] <richiefrich> X -configure
[08:52] <Corey> richiefrich: this is an error when i do tests
[08:52] <Corey> richiefrich: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:52] <richiefrich> u on XFree ?
[08:52] <Corey> richiefrich: i have no idea what im doing
[08:52] <xukun> I,m seeing this errors in ~/xsession-errors log files. How bad ist?: http://pastebin.com/
[08:52] <Corey> richiefrich: i just want default working on for older ati cards
[08:52] <richiefrich> Mageknight sorry man, idk
[08:53] <richiefrich> then try to change the driver
[08:53] <Corey> richiefrich: ive tried all of them
[08:53] <richiefrich> Corey what card..  --> lspci | grep VGA
[08:53] <Corey> richiefrich: is there a way i can use the 5.10 cd
[08:53] <Corey> RS200 IGP
[08:53] <Corey> richiefrich: radeon RS200 IGP
[08:54] <jrsims> anyone know a command to show available disk space?
[08:54] <jrsims> looking for a command, not a gui tool
[08:54] <lowkey> jrsims: df ?
[08:54] <grunt> Hi, can anyone tell me the location of the sessions files for gdm, that it uses at start up?
[08:54] <grunt> thanks
[08:54] <Mageknight> how do i use the broken filter to locate my broken file
[08:54] <mikedep333> anyone? an effective way to install the -doc packages for the packages you have installed?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> jrsims: or df -h  if you want to see MB
[08:54] <jrsims> lowkey: great!
[08:54] <Mageknight> how do i use the broken filter to locate my broken file
[08:54] <jrsims> thoreauputic: cool
[08:54] <colk> man the ubantu forums must really be lagged
[08:55] <colk> I cant register at all
[08:55] <fec> congratulations all! thx for the dapper release
[08:55] <thoreauputic> oe is it -H ? I think H is for decimal, -h for binary 1000 vs 1024 etc
[08:55] <Astinus-> Will there be a dvd for ubuntu as there is for kubuntu?
[08:56] <Mageknight> how do i fix this anyone /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk2-ruby_0.13.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[08:56] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: -h is the one that you want
[08:56] <lightdifference> does ubuntu use the grub loader?
[08:56] <mikedep333> lightdifference: yes
[08:56] <lowkey> Does any one here use Dapper on IBM Thinkpad .. yesterday I've upgradeed my IBM Z60t from Breezy to Dapper and guess what?! Suspend to RAM has stopped working!? Does any1 has any clue, what can I do?? I mean .. it this is broken in dapper .. i need to switch back to breezy??
[08:56] <lightdifference> oh, ok. That works.
[08:56] <snoops> anyone tried doing a fresh install of dapper on a sata drive?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: both work - on eis for multiples in 1000 and the other 1024 I think?
[08:57] <thoreauputic> * one is
[08:57] <Mageknight> how do i fix this anyone /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk2-ruby_0.13.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[08:57] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: yeah, -h is the 1024, i believe
[08:57] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: sounds right :)
[08:57] <mikedep333> lightdifference: grub is the default bootloader in ubuntu, lilo is also available
[08:59] <stevekl> lilo is an abject horror to use though
[09:00] <thoreauputic> stevekl: it's not so bad - I used it for several years and used to know the options quite well, but now I've forgotten them ;)
[09:00] <GeorgeAScott> can anybody tell me where to find xlib6g?
[09:00] <thoreauputic> grub seems to "just work" mostly
[09:00] <crimsun> GeorgeAScott: that's the old (obsoleted) name for libx11-6
[09:00] <l_r> hello
[09:00] <hangfire> can any professional sys admin here tell me about linux certification?
[09:00] <GeorgeAScott> well opera supposedly depends on it.. oh hey crimsun
[09:00] <l_r> i just installed 6.06 . everything is perfect, expect that i cannot configure my adsl connection with the common adsl-* scripts
[09:00] <davidleeroth> does anyone know why my desktop will not load ubuntu? It freezes when it is about to scan my hardware.
[09:01] <crimsun> GeorgeAScott: for dapper?
[09:01] <GeorgeAScott> yea... sorry i'm a big opera fan..
[09:01] <crimsun> GeorgeAScott: use the debian testing/etch package of opera 9 beta
[09:01] <GeorgeAScott> ok.... thanks
[09:01] <l_r> the adsl-* scripts  are basic tools. i wonder why the maintainers didn't include them in the livecd
[09:01] <nubee> hangfire, ask a better question
[09:01] <Corey_> uh
[09:01] <thoreauputic> l_r: try pppoeconf ?
[09:01] <xukun> When I try to start DC++ I get this error: Details: Failed to execute child process "/opt/linuxdcpp/dcpp" (No such file or directory)
[09:02] <l_r> thoreauputic, that's the name?
[09:02] <l_r> thoreauputic, ok. i will
[09:02] <l_r> thanks
[09:02] <thoreauputic> l_r: debian tool for configuring adsl pppoe
[09:02] <hangfire> nubee, I know thats a little OT, but my career choice is on the line here
[09:02] <nubee> hangfire, so?
[09:02] <l_r> ok. i'll reboot into ubuntu and see
[09:02] <l_r> thanks for the help
[09:02] <colk> hangfire theirs a linux + cert and redhat
[09:03] <thoreauputic> hangfire: there's an Ubunt cert program I think, now
[09:03] <colk> check vue comptia and redhat for info
[09:03] <Mageknight> anyone. how can i fix my broken file???
[09:03] <thoreauputic> *Ubuntu
[09:03] <mikedep333> hey guys, is there a way to share out your entire local X session on ubuntu?
[09:03] <hangfire> thanks colk!!
[09:03] <thoreauputic> mike-e: several
[09:03] <hangfire> and thor
[09:03] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: vnc, freenx, X over ssh...
[09:04] <thoreauputic> tightvnc...
[09:04] <mikedep333> ok
[09:04] <mikedep333> but how do I share out my existing local X session?
[09:04] <mikedep333> I want to be able to access the same apps remotely and locally
[09:04] <mikedep333> oh, I see that universe includes X11vnc
[09:04] <Astinus-> mikedep333: there is something called FreeNX which is quite nice, like remote desktop?
[09:04] <hangfire> but redhat is dead, and fc is just its skeletin for testing corperate edition
[09:05] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: look for Preferences - remote desktop
[09:05] <mikedep333> Astinus-: I love freenx, but it doesn't do what I want
[09:05] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: vino is there by default already
[09:05] <hukkka> if you just want to use some app, ssh into bot with -X -C and then just run the apps
[09:05] <mikedep333> I'm in KDE at the moment, it's desktop sharing only shares out the KDE session
[09:05] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: although I prefer tightvnc or freenx
[09:05] <Astinus-> mikedep333: i love you too man :)
[09:05] <INeedSeriousHelp> has freezing during install been heard of?
[09:05] <matthew_w> Hey guys, kind of a really bad problem, I up'd to dapper, and now I can't get into X. Says module Nvidia not found... help
[09:05] <mikedep333> Astinus-: I love you men too
[09:06] <ompaul> !tell INeedSeriousHelp about bootoptions
[09:06] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: look into freenx
[09:06] <mikedep333> thoreauputic: I have used it a good amount
[09:06] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: it is way better than vnc
[09:06] <DarkMageZ> matthew_w, you might need to reinstall your nvidia drivers, you could temporarily switch back to the open source driver called nv, to get a gui while you do that
[09:06] <mikedep333> but it doesn't share out the local session
[09:06] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: OK :)
[09:06] <matthew_w> DarkMageZ, I don't really need a gui.  How would I do it?
[09:06] <INeedSeriousHelp> ompaul, which ones do you think I need?
[09:07] <matthew_w> DarkMageZ, sudo apt-get reinstall?
[09:07] <ca3sar> hey, where can i file a bugreport. i can press a button on my dapper running notebook, that freezes everything
[09:07] <matthew_w> Or what is the command?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: what exactly do you wnat to do ? If you are in KDE obviously you would expect to be sharing KDE ?
[09:07] <DarkMageZ> matthew_w, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:07] <mikedep333> thoreauputic: I want to share out my entire graphical session
[09:07] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: or do you want to run a different desktop?
[09:07] <ompaul> DavidLeeRoth, just try out the top few as a combination
[09:07] <mikedep333> be it gnome or KDE
[09:07] <Warbo> Hello, I have totally screwed firefox and it is saying "floating point exception", even after purging it.
[09:08] <mikedep333> and to do so without local confirmation
[09:08] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: GNOME has vino server as I said
[09:08] <mikedep333> yeah
[09:08] <mikedep333> but I don't think I can say, reboot my computer, and then login with vino
[09:08] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: xtightvnc will create a new session if that's what you need
[09:08] <mikedep333> I believe that you have to be logged into gnome to use vino
[09:09] <mikedep333> xtightvnc?
[09:09] <matthew_w> Reinstalled it, didn't work.
[09:09] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: look at tightvnc then
[09:09] <matthew_w> What's the reconfigure command for xserver again?
[09:09] <amac> whats that command calls which speeds up loading?
[09:09] <amac> called*
[09:09] <Warbo> matthew_w: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: you can create a new session (sort of like screen) that can be called remotely
[09:09] <Warbo> I mean amac
[09:09] <Warbo> no I don't
[09:09] <Warbo> :)
[09:10] <mikedep333> thoreauputic: xtightvnc seems to be what I want
[09:10] <mikedep333> I'll try it out
[09:10] <mikedep333> not tightvnc itself
[09:10] <Mast__> #Ubuntu-it
[09:10] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: sounds like it - and it works with the KDE remote client
[09:10] <thoreauputic> mikedep333: right - xtightvnc is the server daemon
[09:11] <ajax4> I checked out the nvidia wiki to install drivers and I still need some help.
[09:11] <ajax4> !pastebin
[09:11] <UNH2LY> hey all
[09:11] <TokenBad> anyone know if in evolution there is a way to export your setup so can use it again?
[09:11] <liquidindian> When using apt-get, what does it mean when packages cannot be authenticated?
[09:12] <jrsims> can anyone recommend a good gui ftp program?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> liquidindian: that you lack the gpg key for them
[09:12] <jrsims> for gnome?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> jrsims: either nautilus or gftp work fine
[09:12] <liquidindian> thoreauputic, gpg key?
[09:12] <jrsims> thoreauputic: how in nautilus?
[09:12] <H080J03> hmm
[09:12] <thoreauputic> liquidindian: gpg is the GNU version of "Pretty Good Privacy" IIRC
[09:12] <matthew_w> No matter what I do I'm getting FATAL: Module nvidia not found
[09:13] <thoreauputic> jrsims:  ftp://you@server
[09:13] <ajax4> matthew_w, you having a problem installing your nvidia drivers?
[09:13] <Warbo> Hmmm. Firefox doesn't work for me, but it does for a new user I created. Can I remove all of my config files, but somehow keep my bookmarks?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> jrsims: ctrl -L to get a location field
[09:13] <matthew_w> ajax4, Not really, I went to dapper, and now they don't work anymore.
[09:13] <thoreauputic> jrsims: or just use "Connect to server"
[09:13] <jrsims> thoreauputic: ah, thanks
[09:13] <matthew_w> ajax4, never had a problem before.
[09:13] <Double_D> !mp3
[09:13] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:13] <liquidindian> thoreauputic, okay, should I be worried if it does this with packages in the main repository?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> liquidindian: that would be weird, indeed
[09:13] <ajax4> matthew_w: I just switched to dapper and I can't get mine to work either. This is my first time trying though.
[09:14] <spafbnerf> hello friends!
[09:14] <thoreauputic> liquidindian: sometimes waiting a while and trying again sorts it out
[09:14] <matthew_w> ajax4; I have no idea what's wrong.  modprobe gives me module nvidia not found
[09:14] <matthew_w> help!
[09:14] <matthew_w> lol
[09:14] <Abo> when I plug in my camera, usually a disk gets mounted automatically, this didn't happen this time
[09:14] <ajax4> matthew_w: Are you following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[09:14] <matthew_w> ajax4, already went through it all.
[09:14] <spafbnerf> i hav a strange problem w my fresh install of dapper (ok, installed a snapshot a week or two before, then dist-upgrade'd it), now beginning to try use it
[09:14] <liquidindian> thoreauputic, okay - I assume there's a heavy load at the moment :)
[09:15] <spafbnerf> smbfs seems broken: [4295168.244000]  smb_fill_super: missing data argument
[09:15] <ajax4> matthew_w: no help from the channel?
[09:15] <matthew_w> ajax4; further, I don't know how to get to a web page in terminal.
[09:15] <thoreauputic> liquidindian: safe assumption :)
[09:15] <anopenmind> well guys its time for me to go to bed
[09:15] <anopenmind> later
[09:15] <ianhyphen> Hello all. I just read about Ubuntu and it sounds great. I was just wondering if someone was doing something about the people selling it on Ebay? Seems pretty low to me.
[09:15] <ajax4> matthew_w: you can use lynx
[09:15] <matthew_w> Just directed to the wiki page so far.
[09:15] <spafbnerf> cannot figure out y.... tried rebooting .... lol ....... ?
[09:15] <spafbnerf> ne1 els had this problem?
[09:15] <Abo> when I plug in my camera, usually a disk gets mounted automatically, this didn't happen this time, anyone knows why, or how to mount it manually?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ianhyphen: you can sell free software
[09:15] <Warbo> matthew_w: I just reinstalled NVidia driver. I made sure that no .run file was installed then just installed nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-source, linux-restricted-modules-common and 2.6.15-23-k7 (my kernel) and used module assistant to build the driver and it worked fine
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ianhyphen: no rules against that
[09:15] <spafbnerf> 2.6.15-23-386 this is the right kernel ^ o looks like it, hmmm ....
[09:16] <thoreauputic> ianhyphen: if people are silly enough to pay for it ;)
[09:16] <dunnix> can some one help me real quick
[09:16] <ompaul> Abo, there are a couple of things you need to think about, go try replugging it into some other socket, and try a reboot before you try anything else
[09:16] <ajax4> Warbo, I got this error when I issued "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" http://pastebin.com/752988
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Abo: look at System -Preferences - Removable Drives and media
[09:16] <matthew_w> module assistent?
[09:16] <cam> when booting, the scripts are executed from rc2.d ? what about when shuttinig down ?
[09:16] <Double_D> i love you, ubotu.
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Abo: possibly a preference got screwed up
[09:17] <ompaul> ianhyphen, if it takes me 20 hours to get a dvd of ubuntu from the net, then a reasonable return on my time is not a bad expectation
[09:17] <klormexor> guys just imagine if we were still back in the S3 Video era when that card was the shat, we would have all sorts of problems, I know I had a few probs. Hope S3 isnt as common as it was
[09:17] <richiefrich> ompaul hello
[09:17] <ianhyphen> that's terrible. I'll bet Dante has a level for those people. Anyway, I'll seed it 'till my PC dies.
[09:17] <Warbo> ajax4: That just means that your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file isn't standard, so the tool can't change it. I don't use that tool anyway, I edit it manually
[09:17] <Abo> thoreauputic,ompaul,  ok thanks
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ianhyphen: Free as in Freedom - not price :)
[09:18] <matthew_w> Grr, I got those kernel modules, and still no cigar.
[09:18] <Warbo> cam: rc0.d is shutdown and rc6.d is reboot
[09:18] <ianhyphen> lol. good points all around.
[09:18] <ajax4> Warbo: How is my xorg.conf not standard. I just installed Dapper?
[09:18] <dunnix> im trying to download xine stuff and im getting    "depends: libxine-main1 but it is not installable" any one know what this means   im getting it on other packages too
[09:18] <matthew_w> So many bugs so fast.. X_X
[09:18] <Warbo> ajax4: I don't know, but just edit it yourself. Put "driver" in your device section as "nvidia"
[09:19] <cam> Warbo, ok tx
[09:19] <matthew_w> Warbo; I did that.  Still nothing.
[09:19] <ajax4> Warbo: then what?
[09:19] <klormexor> !ext
[09:19] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, klormexor
[09:19] <klormexor> !ext3
[09:19] <ubotu> I guess ext3 is a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:19] <Warbo> ajax4: Restart X and see what errors you get :)
[09:19] <matthew_w> Warbo; also, sudo modprobe nvidia returns : FATAL: module nvidia not found
[09:19] <ianhyphen> Ok, I was only curious. Catch everyone later.
[09:19] <Warbo> matthew_w: Did you use moudle-assistant?
[09:19] <Warbo> module-assistant
[09:19] <pppoe_dude> matthew_w: did u try modprobe nv?
[09:19] <matthew_w> Not yet, do I just sudo apt-get it?
[09:19] <cam> Warbo, but what about the boot? i mean, when i power up the computer, which rcX.d will it run ?
[09:19] <Binsy_> Anyone gotten Wine to compile on a 64 bit Linux?
[09:20] <Warbo> matthew_w: Yes. It compiles stuff into packages which is nice
[09:20] <Warbo> cam: I think it runs 1 then 2, or maybe just 2
[09:20] <ajax4> Warbo: Driver is currently "nv" should I change it to "nvidia"?
[09:20] <Warbo> ajax4: Yes
[09:21] <ajax4> Warbo: ok, I'll try that now.
[09:21] <richiefrich> Corey ?
[09:21] <matthew_w> Warbo; if his setup fails, tell him to replace "nvidia" in the device section with "nvidia-kernel"
[09:21] <samu> So is anyone working on fixing the update-manager or what's happening?
[09:21] <dunnix> any one know why im getting could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade   im package manager?
[09:22] <Warbo> matthew_w: Oh? Never heard of that
[09:22] <lastnode> samu, what's wrong with it?
[09:22] <matthew_w> Warbo; nm.  Didn't work.
[09:22] <samu> lastnode, from the wiki "If you have a working network connection, it should then inform you about a new release and offer to upgrade your system. This has been reported as not working yet (as of June 1). Please use the method below."
[09:23] <lastnode> samu, well it's being patched then :) should come to you via an update someday soon :)
[09:23] <thoreauputic> dunnix: usually means there's a conflict of packages - what are you installing? Or are you just doing a general update?
[09:23] <samu> lastnode, ok, ill just wait around for it then
[09:24] <thoreauputic> dunnix: wild guess: have you usd automatix?
[09:24] <dunnix> Thoreauputic: trying to install xine
[09:24] <matthew_w> Warbo; I'm gonna scream.  lol.
[09:24] <H080J03> hmm
[09:24] <thoreauputic> dunnix: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[09:24] <dunnix> Thoreauputic: no im using the manager that came with ubuntu
[09:24] <matthew_w> Warbo; module assistant also can't find anything relating to nvidia other than "nvidia-kernel".
[09:24] <thoreauputic> dunnix: OK fine
[09:24] <pvd2006> hmm, any big changes made to ubuntu in the last 4-5 days?
[09:24] <nubee> /dev/hda5              25G  7.9G   16G  34% /  /dev/hdc1             147G   93G   47G  67% /home  heh
[09:24] <thoreauputic> dunnix: look for xine-ui
[09:25] <thoreauputic> dunnix: or you may prefer gxine or totem-xine
[09:25] <richiefrich> not totem
[09:25] <thoreauputic> dunnix: please don't /msg without asking
[09:25] <Corey> damn
[09:25] <richiefrich> xine vlc mplayer
[09:25] <thoreauputic> !msg
[09:25] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[09:26] <Warbo> matthew_w: I just spent an hour looking through package versions, uninstalling, purging and reinstalling in every combination to fix a problem with different versions (GLX was different than driver) until I realised that I had used the .run file and that doesn't show up in the package manager (aptitude and lynx, naturally, as I had no graphics)
[09:26] <dunnix> Thoreauputic: im gettting an error when i try to apt-get things    any package
[09:26] <matthew_w> Warbo; explain .run file?
[09:26] <Warbo> matthew_w: nvidia-kernel-2.6.15........... is the package, but nvidia is the module name
[09:26] <ajax4> Warbo: I tried it and it worked. Thanks!!
[09:26] <thoreauputic> dunnix: close your other instances of package managers
[09:26] <Warbo> matthew_w: The file that nvidia.com gives you (don't use it, or you'll run into the same problems as me)
[09:26] <matthew_w> Ok, so what should I do with it in module-assistant
[09:26] <Warbo> ajax4: Yay!
[09:27] <thoreauputic> dunnix: you can only have one package manager running at a time :)
[09:27] <ajax4> Warbo: Now I'm gonna hold my breath and dive into getting Xgl to work. Wish me luck! :)
[09:27] <Warbo> ajax4: Good luck (but I don't like it myself)
[09:27] <ajax4> Warbo: Why not?
[09:27] <matthew_w> Warbo; I've hit Build
[09:27] <matthew_w> I've hit Install
[09:27] <voraistos> ajax4: thats no big deal, i did it with the beta with a i855 graphic card ;)
[09:28] <ajax4> !xgl
[09:28] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[09:28] <matthew_w> And STILL sudo modprobe nvidia gives me NOTHING.  lol
[09:28] <Warbo> ajax4: Doesn't have enough windows manager features I am used to (I think the latest one does, but that's only in like Gentoo or something)
[09:29] <Warbo> matthew_w: It did the same for me, but for some reason /etc/init.d/gdm restart worked fine
[09:29] <matthew_w> "Starting Gnome Display Manager:  FAIL "
[09:29] <matthew_w> Module Nvidia not found
[09:30] <matthew_w> nvidia*
[09:30] <Warbo> ajax4: Oh yeah, you may want to add the line: Option "NoLogo" "true" under the driver line to get rid of the annoying spash screen
[09:30] <michaels> bleh, my mouse's scrollwheel still doesn't work properly under 6.06...
[09:30] <skold> hi I have a problem when I try to open a application with sudo it says: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul  2 08:21:30 2006
[09:30] <matthew_w> Warbo; What's going on X_X
[09:30] <richiefrich> matthew_w modprobe nvidia
[09:30] <scheuri> skold: what is the time and date on your machine?
[09:31] <ajax4> Warbo: Good idea. Thanks a lot for your help :)
[09:31] <Warbo> matthew_w: nvidia isn't being found :)
[09:31] <Warbo> ajax4: np
[09:31] <matthew_w> richiefrich : Fatal: module nvidia not found
[09:31] <richiefrich> matthew_w  u need to install it or modprobe it
[09:31] <disinterested_pe> how do u figure out what ur architexture is?
[09:31] <richiefrich> matthew_w modprobe nvidia
[09:31] <matthew_w> richiefrich : Fatal: module nvidia not found
[09:31] <skold> friday  2 juni 9:31
[09:31] <matthew_w> richiefrich its installed, as well.
[09:32] <richiefrich> matthew_w  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx  && sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel
[09:32] <matthew_w> Already done.
[09:32] <richiefrich> then
[09:32] <Warbo> matthew_w: Do you have the restricted-modules packages? Try getting rid of them, that MAY help
[09:32] <richiefrich> sudo modprobe -f nvidia
[09:33] <skold> scheuri:  friday  2 juni 9:31
[09:33] <matthew_w> richiefrich: Fatal: module nvidia not found.
[09:33] <Warbo> richiefrich: That is only when a module gives an error (like wrong GCC version), but that is stupid when it is not there at all
[09:33] <richiefrich> then it's not there
[09:33] <Warbo> richiefrich: Well done
[09:33] <matthew_w> Unless the upgrade to dapper somehow got rid of it.
[09:33] <matthew_w> And then when I installed it again, it decided to throw itself into the abyss.
[09:33] <richiefrich> Warbo then he needs to install it
[09:34] <matthew_w> richiefrich; I already have.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && nvidia-kernel-source
[09:34] <richiefrich> matthew_w then do this
[09:34] <scheuri> skold: is that actually correct?
[09:35] <skold> scheuri: yeah
[09:35] <richiefrich> matthew_w  dpkg-query -L nvidia-glx
[09:35] <scheuri> skold...hmm...okay...sorry...thought it might something with your systemtime
[09:35] <richiefrich> matthew_w  dpkg-query -L nvidia-kernel-source
[09:35] <richiefrich> do u get any input back
[09:35] <matthew_w> Gave me a huge long output
[09:35] <firstpua> !kgb
[09:35] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, firstpua
[09:36] <richiefrich> matthew_w  dpkg-query -L nvidia-kernel-source | grep nvidia.so
[09:36] <B0FH> um what is this XGL thing with the spinning desktop? i want it ^_^
[09:36] <firstpua> anyone know what is the tool to work with kgb compression files?
[09:36] <B0FH> can my nvidia 32mb geforce2 mx handel it?
[09:36] <troy_s> !xgl
[09:36] <ubotu> hmm... xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[09:36] <troy_s> !compiz
[09:36] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[09:36] <matthew_w> It returned nothing.
[09:36] <richiefrich> why not just nvidia-kernel    and  why   nvidia-kernel-source
[09:36] <Flannel> B0FH: yes.  since, that's what I run it with.
[09:36] <Madpilot> firstpua: in Windows, it's called "Kremlin" - no idea if there's a Linux version. Try asking Google.
[09:37] <B0FH> great is it easy to get running Flannel?
[09:37] <Warbo> One thing that annoyed me, when trying to install nvidia-glx without all of it's dependencies, it kept trying to install linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 (I use k7) and it's restricted modules, even when I specifically gave my versions on the command line. If I installed them first then it didn't try to get the other linux-image. That should be fixed really...
[09:37] <matthew_w> richiefrich:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel;  error: package nvidia-kernel has no installation candidate, but is referred to by another package.
[09:37] <Warbo> BOFH: Mine can perfectly
[09:37] <Madpilot> matthew_w: do  you have Multiverse enabled?
[09:37] <B0FH> wow how do i get it?
[09:37] <Flannel> B0FH: super easy.  There are a few methods, I'm partial to this one : http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 because it's easy to revert from if something goes wrong.
[09:37] <matthew_w> Madpilot; yes.
[09:37] <B0FH> it just looks so cool
[09:37] <Warbo> !tell BOFH about xgl
[09:38] <Madpilot> matthew_w: and you did apt-get update, or hit Reload in Synaptic after enabling Multiverse?
[09:38] <troy_s> !tell b0fh about compiz
[09:38] <matthew_w> Madpilot; yes.
[09:38] <B0FH> there we go ^_^
[09:38] <firstpua> thanks Madpilot
[09:38] <richiefrich> matthew_w  dpkg-query -L nvidia-kernel-source | grep nvidia.ko
[09:38] <matthew_w> Returns nothing.
[09:39] <p_masho> I want to completeley remove Evolution (using Thunderbird) but when it comes to doing it it says its gonna remove "ububtu-desktop" .. is this dangerous ???
[09:39] <Madpilot> matthew_w: odd - I run an ATI card myself, was just checking for the obvious things ;)
[09:39] <richiefrich> matthew_w  dpkg-query -L nvidia-kernel-source | grep nvidia-agp.ko
[09:39] <Madpilot> p_masho: not really.
[09:39] <matthew_w> Returns nothing.
[09:39] <Madpilot> p_masho: just remember to re-install ubuntu-desktop before you upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu
[09:39] <m_0_r_0_n> mv: cannot move `try_again' to `try_again.0.wav': Text file busy ??? There no program using that file. I dont get infos by fuser -u try_again.0.wav . Any idea how to free up a busy file?
[09:39] <bhspitmonkey_> is there a text-based installer for dapper? (I'm booted to the dapper livecd right now.)
[09:39] <snoops> yes bhspitmonkey_
[09:39] <snoops> it's called alternate
[09:39] <thoreauputic> !alternate
[09:39] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[09:40] <scheuri> bhspitmonkey_: if you use alternate CD, yes
[09:40] <p_masho> Madpilot: updated to Dapper yesterday
[09:40] <Madpilot> bhspitmonkey_: yes, in the install CD - not in the LiveCD afaik
[09:40] <bhspitmonkey_> oh, but nothing on the regular
[09:40] <bhspitmonkey_> dag
[09:40] <matthew_w> Man, I'm tired.  I want to get this working, I need to get on my bank site X_X
[09:40] <Warbo> m_0_r_0_n: That should never happen anyway, files are loaded into RAM to be accessed. I have often deleted/moved music I am listening to
[09:41] <richiefrich> matthew_w restricted-modules  <-- u try to get ride of them like Warbo said ?
[09:41] <matthew_w> Yea.
[09:41] <matthew_w> Wait, what's the package name
[09:41] <richiefrich> idk ask Warbo
[09:41] <Warbo> matthew_w: I am assuming you have tried getting rid of every nvidia thing in there and purging them and starting again?
[09:41] <matthew_w> Warbo; yea.
[09:42] <samu> TRying to figure out this update process. What is the terrible "apt-get upgrade" supposed to be used for?
[09:42] <whitynz> Lots of problems tonight I bet
[09:42] <troy_s> samu:  it follows apt-get update.
[09:42] <scheuri> samu: terrible? ,)....its updates your system..
[09:42] <troy_s> samu:  it simply updates your system.
[09:42] <samu> "EXTREMELY IMPORTANT! Make sure you type  dist-upgrade  rather than  upgrade . The process will totally hose your machine and render it *completely unbootable* otherwise."
[09:42] <newman> samu, it updates all the packages that have newer versions available
[09:42] <Warbo> matthew_w: You kno, when I got a "module not found" message I actually went "Yes!" out loud (because I had got rid of the version mismatch error and module not found is usually easy to fix) :)
[09:43] <samu> Ok, well what does "apt-get update" do then?
[09:43] <matthew_w> Oh lord.  This is just terrible, isn't this a huge bug?
[09:43] <samu> Oh that just retrieves the lists?
[09:43] <newman> samu, it updates the lists of packages and their information
[09:43] <newman> yes
[09:43] <scheuri> samu: it gets the list of available software andits version from the server mentioned in sources.list
[09:43] <Kingmilo> hey guys :)
[09:43] <samu> Doesn't apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade do apt-get update by themselves then?
[09:43] <dontm> network connectivity dropped out after first restart after upgrading to dapper
[09:43] <matthew_w> I upgraded, and now I can't start x X_X
[09:43] <blaze> how can i set the sharing directory for apache2 ?
[09:43] <scheuri> samu...no
[09:44] <Warbo> matthew_w: Hang on, I'm just going to wipe all of my Firefox preferences...
[09:44] <blaze> where is the config file?
[09:44] <dontm> ifconfig says eth0 is up and has an IP and i tried /etc/init.d/networking restart to no avail
[09:44] <thoreauputic> samu: you don't strictly need the "update" unless the package list has changed
[09:44] <richiefrich> matthew_w then change the Driver in xorg.conf
[09:44] <Kingmilo> i am currently downloading the ubuntu server edition .iso but i would prefer to d/l the .torrent file but i cannot find it on the ftp site, any ideas? :)
[09:44] <troy_s> matthew: try flipping to vesa based driver...
[09:44] <thoreauputic> samu: but it's a good habit :)
[09:44] <matthew_w> richiefrich: to what?
[09:44] <samu> But would someone run either of the upgrades without doing an update first?
[09:44] <richiefrich> matthew_w  nv
[09:44] <jte> anyone here know if rt2500 or rt2500pci works good with networkmanager (and wpa_supplicant)?
[09:44] <troy_s> kingmilo:  cdimages.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <blaze> where are the config files for apache2?
[09:45] <Madpilot> Kingmilo: the .torrent file should be available at all the download sites, alongside the .iso file
[09:45] <blaze> somebody :)
[09:45] <richiefrich> blaze /etc/apache2
[09:45] <scheuri> samu: yes, maybe you just dont want that new list for soome reasons...:)
[09:45] <troy_s> blaze: usually under httpd.conf
[09:45] <p_masho> blaze: /etc/apache
[09:45] <thoreauputic> samitheberber: no point - but yo u mightjust run sudo apt-get inatall "foo"
[09:45] <blaze> ok, i'll try
[09:45] <Madpilot> troy_s: not for Apache 2, afaik
[09:45] <thoreauputic> bah tab complet strikes again
[09:45] <richiefrich> blaze /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[09:45] <Kingmilo> Madpilot, i only see .iso .template .jigdo .list ?
[09:45] <Warbo> Dammit. "Floating Point Exception" when I start Firefox, but a new user can run it fine
[09:45] <matthew_w> Failed to open framebuffer device
[09:45] <Madpilot> blaze: there's also an #apache channel
[09:45] <matthew_w> And now it fails for a different reason. X_X
[09:45] <Kingmilo> Madpilot: ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/releases/6.06/
[09:45] <Madpilot> Kingmilo: odd. which download site are  you at?
[09:46] <troy_s> matthew:  did you flip your driver to vesa?
[09:46] <hukkka> jte: rt2500 works well, in my experiene
[09:46] <matthew_w> troy_s ?
[09:46] <samu> Ok gonna do dist-upgrade now... hope it goes well...
[09:46] <richiefrich> blaze what  u need in apache /
[09:46] <Kingmilo> Madpilot, Internet Solutions South Africa :P
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Warbo: something wrong in your ~/.mozilla/firefox
[09:46] <scheuri> now, that dapper is out, a dist-upgrade ist not entirely necessary...
[09:46] <troy_s> matthew:  issue the dpkg-reconfigure
[09:46] <Warbo> matthew_w: vesa driver will give graphics on all cards (but crappy ones)
[09:46] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i just updated to dapper (:D). I backed up my home directory, how can I get back my favourites and all that for firefox?
[09:46] <scheuri> given, that you have done one yesterday
[09:46] <sexcopter8000m> (I was using 1.5 in breezy)
[09:46] <Warbo> thoreauputic: I just deleted that whole directory
[09:46] <Madpilot> Kingmilo: try a different mirror - if all you're getting is the .torrent, it doesn't matter where it's coming from
[09:47] <matthew_w> Warbo; yeah, but I don't just want a temporary solution X_X
[09:47] <jte> ok, sounds good. i have gentoo currently on my laptop here and im going to install ubuntu to on it :) need the network managment part. =)
[09:47] <richiefrich> no 3d acceleration
[09:47] <thoreauputic> Warbo: and it still throws the error ? Odd...
[09:47] <troy_s> sexcopter:  should all be in the hidden .firefox etc dirs off your home.
[09:47] <Kingmilo> alright ;) thanks
[09:47] <dontm> how do i get a new ip?
[09:47] <RancidLM> hey all im trying to get the eye candy to work off the tutorial http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235 iv followed the instructions but running it returns a error about no managable screens found on display :0.0 can some one help me?
[09:47] <Warbo> thoreauputic: Well, at least the firefox package installs now...
[09:47] <dontm> or reset the networking?
[09:47] <richiefrich> dontm get a new IP provider
[09:47] <samu> Ok, now when I did apt-get update. The update-manager shows I have updates... Would using the update-manager now do the same as apt-get upgrade in other words fuxor my system?
[09:47] <troy_s> matthew:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg iirc -- guys?>
[09:47] <dontm> eh?
[09:47] <sexcopter8000m> troy_s, so if i just copy that over the new .firefox folder will that work?
[09:47] <Madpilot> samu: it shouldn't...
[09:48] <dontm> well like in windows u can ipconfig /release and then /renew
[09:48] <Warbo> samu: If in doubt use the one which you trust
[09:48] <troy_s> dontm:  restart your nic.
[09:48] <richiefrich> dontm  u mean what ?  a new IP or restart the network
[09:48] <matthew_w> troy_s that's it, but I don't just want to slam my driver to vesa to have crappy graphics that I have to live with X_X
[09:48] <dontm> i already tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:48] <troy_s> matthew:  it wont... get x working, then start back down the nvidia trail.
[09:48] <dontm> gives me the same ip from my router
[09:48] <richiefrich> dontm are u not on the net?
[09:48] <troy_s> dontm:  your lease won't expire.
[09:48] <dontm> richiefrich: another machine =-]
[09:48] <richiefrich> dontm ok
[09:48] <axion`> metthew: what kind of card do you have again?
[09:48] <michaels> bleh, can someone help me get my mouse's scrollwheel working here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185819
[09:48] <scheuri> samu: upgrad and dist-upgrade are different...in short: dist-upgrade does also update libraries beneath than just the sole packages...while stable you may finde very rarely the need of dist-upgrade
[09:48] <troy_s> dontm:  so you want a fresh ip from your dhcp server locally or your isp?
[09:49] <matthew_w> axion` Nvidia GeForce MX5700LE
[09:49] <dontm> local
[09:49] <whitynz> oh yay! apt is broken... no dapper for me
[09:49] <richiefrich> michaels what X and what mouse ?
[09:49] <samu> Madpilot, actually it didn't It. It recommended i run apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:49] <troy_s> dontm:  what type of router?
[09:49] <ompaul> !nvidia
[09:49] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:49] <dontm> troy_s it's thru a netgear home router
[09:49] <sinbad444> wats the difference btw upgrade and dist-upgrade ??
[09:49] <scheuri> samu: are you running dapper?
[09:49] <ompaul> morning Madpilot
[09:49] <troy_s> dontm:  ultimately you need to force all the leases to expire on teh router... so logon to it and force the leases out.
[09:50] <richiefrich> netgear i feel for u
[09:50] <matthew_w> ompaul; that will be time 4 that I was redirected to that page, and have gone through all of it already.
[09:50] <dontm> hrm ok
[09:50] <matthew_w> lol
[09:50] <troy_s> dontm:  although on a home network, you should have static ips for all your boxes.
[09:50] <RancidLM> has any one gotten the "thefuture" command on http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235 working?
[09:50] <dontm> let me poke around in there
[09:50] <Warbo> sinbad444: dist-upgarde installs and removes packages. Upgrade keeps the packages the same, but upgardes them
[09:50] <thoreauputic> sinbad444: upgrade just upgrades what's there - dist-upgrade adds and removes new and old packages
[09:50] <troy_s> dontm:  it is a little better to run with static ips -- you always know where a box is then
[09:50] <michaels> richiefrich: whay do you mean by what X?
[09:50] <michaels> and the mouse is pretty much generic now I guess
[09:50] <michaels> some samsung thing
[09:50] <richiefrich> michaels i need to know 6.8  or 7.0
[09:51] <troy_s> michaels:  it is sometimes as easy as changing your mouse driver in x.
[09:51] <michaels> richiefrich: whatever comes with 6.06....
[09:51] <phlexy> hey dudes ;]  I just installed dapper today (upgrading from breezy). I restart, get past the login screens sucessfully, but then it justs sits there - doing nothing..
[09:51] <dontm> hrm, the box in question is not showing up in the router lan ip table
[09:51] <Flannel> RancidLM: that's XGL.  And yeah, lots of people have it working.
[09:51] <ompaul> matthew_w, the problem usually is that you have to change the driver at the end of the process, and then restart you X - I have to run for a few minutes back soon
[09:51] <phlexy> anyone have any idea what's up?
[09:51] <Flannel> !tell RancidLM about xgl
[09:51] <michaels> troy_s:  how do I do that?
[09:51] <troy_s> dontm:  force it to an ip in your subnet... what is your dhcp assigned ip?
[09:51] <axion`> matthew_w - you did apt-get install nvidia-glx, the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, select nvidia, disable dri, that should be it.
[09:51] <dontm> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:52] <troy_s> michaels:  what driver is listed as given for your mouse currently in your xorg.conf?
[09:52] <RancidLM> Flannel: i got it all installed but i get Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[09:52] <H080J03> hmm alright i have enabled all of the repos but when i try to install ktorrent i get this message Depends: kdelibs4c2 but it is not going to be installed
[09:52] <matthew_w> axion`; long ago.
[09:52] <richiefrich> michaels  grep Version /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:52] <michaels> troy_s: "mouse"
[09:52] <troy_s> dontm:  then assign yourself a static something like <IP_ADDRESS> (and make sure your router won't assign ips above 99)
[09:52] <axion`> hmm, well that worked for me =\ (6800GS, here)
[09:52] <richiefrich> michaels  does it say that --> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
[09:52] <thoreauputic> richiefrich: X -version is easier ;)
[09:52] <michaels> yes richiefrich
[09:52] <Tomcat_> ompaul: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log... anything there?
[09:52] <dontm> troy_s what will that accomplish?
[09:53] <Bulltitan> hi, remind me please how to get real player :(
[09:53] <sinbad444> warbo, i spent most of today upgrading, now do i need to do a dist-upgrade as well or ?
[09:53] <Flannel> RancidLM: suggest you use the wiki instructions, instead.
[09:53] <richiefrich> michaels ok then whats in your xorg.conf
[09:53] <troy_s> michaels: what option?
[09:53] <matthew_w> Urg, I just want this to work :(
[09:53] <troy_s> dontm:  well if you start using ssh and all, at least you will know where your boxes are on the net.
[09:53] <Warbo> sinbad444: You should have dist-upgraded in the first place (Synaptic calls it "Smart Upgrade")
[09:53] <RancidLM> flannel: sure thing do you have a url plz?
[09:53] <Madpilot> ubotu: tell Bulltitan about realplayer
[09:53] <Flannel> RancidLM: check your pm from ubotu
[09:53] <troy_s> dontm:  but it is your choice.  why do you need a new ip out of the router just out of curiosity?
[09:54] <richiefrich> michaels and what does  -->  xmodmap -pp
[09:54] <richiefrich> give u how many buttons ?
[09:54] <matthew_w> Why can't it find nvidia! X_X
[09:54] <Bulltitan> thanks!
[09:54] <truls> hiya
[09:54] <dontm> troy_s im not trying to switch to static ip's for this box.  my router has reservation tables, i know how to do that
[09:54] <truls> any channels for powerbook-users?
[09:54] <dontm> im just trying to get connectivyt back to my dapper box
[09:54] <troy_s> matthew_w:  you need nvidia-glx AND the restricted module components right?
[09:54] <dontm> it wont connect after reboot after upgrade
[09:54] <michaels> richiefrich: 11 oddly enough
[09:54] <richiefrich> michaels thats cause of moular X
[09:54] <michaels> and I'm trying to get into pastebin to paste from xorg.conf
[09:54] <Warbo> matthew_w: Try "sudo dpkg -i /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-23-386(or your version).... etc. etc."
[09:55] <matthew_w> troy_s I have them both.
[09:55] <sinbad444> warbo,  ohhh  nooooo  does that mean i gotta start ALL over or ?
[09:55] <troy_s> dontm:  ???
[09:55] <H080J03> hmm alright i have enabled all of the repos but when i try to install ktorrent i get this message Depends: kdelibs4c2 but it is not going to be installed
[09:55] <thoreauputic> truls: just ask if it's Ubuntu-related -a few of us run iBooks or powerbooks
[09:55] <matthew_w> Warbo; it already installed, and set it up.
[09:55] <Warbo> sinbad444: If nothing looks wrong then leave it
[09:55] <ravel> greetings. should Ubuntu 6.06 installation onto a machine with IT8212 SATA RAID controller go fine (with default or alt install cd) or are some patches or other stuff needed?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> truls: what's the issue?
[09:55] <Tomcat_> H080J03: Do apt-get upgrade first.
[09:55] <troy_s> dontm:  and the dapper box shows the ip in the ifconfig statement?
[09:55] <dontm> troy_s on my breezy box, network worked fine.  i upgraded to dapper, i restart, no network connection.  how do i get it back? heh
[09:55] <Warbo> matthew_w: Hmm. I'm a little stumped
[09:55] <H080J03> thx
[09:55] <dontm> yes
[09:55] <sinbad444> warbo, ok nothing looks wrong          yet
[09:55] <dontm> it shows .10
[09:55] <richiefrich> michaels ok now do a --> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 9 10 4 5 6 7 8 11"|xrefresh
[09:55] <Tomcat_> H080J03: Sounds to me like some too old lib.
[09:55] <troy_s> dontm:  okie well that's a diff problem apparently... :)
[09:55] <dontm> yes
[09:55] <troy_s> dontm:  is your gateway set?
[09:56] <truls> just testing out 6.06 (live) on my powerbook, but can't get suspend to work
[09:56] <truls> it just starts a screensaver and exits immideately
[09:56] <troy_s> dontm:  sometimes flipping your default gateway can fix that...
[09:56] <matthew_w> Warbo; I did it anyway, then modprobed and got module nvidia not found
[09:56] <richiefrich> michaels thats should help
[09:56] <michaels> richiefrich: well, I can scroll in xchat now
[09:56] <thoreauputic> truls: look in the power management settings
[09:56] <richiefrich> :)
[09:56] <matthew_w> Is there a way to get Breezy back?  lol.
[09:56] <michaels> and in firefox!
[09:56] <michaels> !!!!
[09:56] <richiefrich> michaels :)
[09:56] <ubotu> michaels: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:56] <ctothej> Anyone here use Azureus?
[09:56] <michaels> thankyou
[09:56] <H080J03> i am all updated
[09:56] <richiefrich> michaels  np
[09:56] <samuel_> can i plz have the bittorrent link for the latest ubuntu?
[09:56] <H080J03> it said it installed 0 packges and updated 0
[09:56] <truls> thoreauputic: yep, i enabled suspend on lid close there, which also gave me a suspend-button
[09:57] <Bulltitan> any xubuntu users here?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> truls: hmm - works on my iBook
[09:57] <truls> thoreauputic: but actually closing the lid or pushing the suspend button on the power-settings has no effect (other than starting the screensaver that shuts of again)
[09:57] <YoussefAssad> morning ubuntu people
[09:57] <richiefrich> michaels  u will need that everytime u start X unless u use startx and not gdm.. idk how to do grapichal login managers
[09:57] <truls> thoreauputic: using a 12" powerbook...
[09:57] <sinbad444> wats xubuntu ??
[09:57] <Bulltitan> lol
[09:57] <klormexor> morning YoussefAssad
[09:57] <Bulltitan> another flavor of ubuntu
[09:57] <sinbad444> dint kno there was an xubuntu
[09:57] <YoussefAssad> A quick question; is dapper now considered the equivalent of the stable branch?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> truls: 12" iBook here - did you try rebooting or logging out and in?
[09:57] <sinbad444> wats xubuntu about ?
[09:57] <samuel_> can i have the link for the latest ubuntu bit torrent plz
[09:58] <thoreauputic> truls: might be a session error
[09:58] <dontm> troy_s when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart it uses <IP_ADDRESS> as the dhcp server like it should, says bound to <IP_ADDRESS> like it should, then says renewal in 125000 seconds, waits about a minute, and finishes but still not connectivity
[09:58] <Flannel> sinbad444: it's ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome, essentially.
[09:58] <SurfnKid> YoussefAssad: no idea mate sorry
[09:58] <YoussefAssad> SurfnKid: heh ok
[09:58] <samuel_> anyone?
[09:58] <Bulltitan> it's an ubuntu for low end pc
[09:58] <truls> thoreauputic: i'll try
[09:58] <sinbad444> how does xfce compare to kde ? better ?
[09:58] <H080J03> ok i still get the same error when i am all upgraded and everything
[09:58] <sinbad444> ohh ok
[09:58] <troy_s> dontm:  is the proper card being listed for default gateway in yoru networking gui gnome thing?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> sinbad444: faster, but more spartan
[09:59] <matthew_w> Warbo; it's 5am.  I'm going to have to go to a friends house to do this bank stuff.  X_X  That's really -really- annoying.  :(
[09:59] <Bulltitan> i love it
[09:59] <samuel_> anyone?!?!?!?!?!?!
[09:59] <thoreauputic> !patience
[09:59] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:59] <sinbad444> wow soon there will be an ubuntu flav for every letter of the alphabet ?
[09:59] <Flannel> samuel_: http://ubuntu.com/download
[09:59] <samuel_> thanks :)
[09:59] <michaels> richiefrich: is there any way to automate it?
[09:59] <Bulltitan> :D
[09:59] <richiefrich> michaels if u use startx u can put that  in --> ~/.xinitrc
[09:59] <truls> thoreauputic: ack.... dmesg says "Sleep mode not supported on this machine"
[09:59] <michaels> I use gdm...
[09:59] <richiefrich> michaels i only know the startx way
[10:00] <thoreauputic> truls: hrm - mine told me that too, but it still works
[10:00] <richiefrich> michaels  i hate Graphical login managers
[10:00] <michaels> I think I saw a way to have commands run at the start of every session... what should I put in there?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> truls: I don't think that is right
[10:00] <dontm> troy_s yes
[10:00] <Fujitsu> I find it annoying that you have to enable suspend-when-inactive or suspend-on-lid before you get the button, although you can turn them off again afterwards...
[10:00] <richiefrich> michaels that cmd i gave u
[10:00] <troy_s> dontm:  how strange.  can you ping the router?
[10:00] <dontm> nope
[10:00] <richiefrich> michaels  xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 8 9 4 5 6 7"|xrefresh
[10:00] <michaels> richiefrich: okie thanks
[10:00] <Warbo> matthew_w: 9am for me. I got in at about 4am after cycling home. I haven't had much sleep lately (trying to get a new kernel working)
[10:00] <troy_s> dontm:  i would power cycle that router ;)
[10:01] <richiefrich> michaels u might need a  & at the end
[10:01] <richiefrich> michaels  xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 8 9 4 5 6 7"|xrefresh  &
[10:01] <richiefrich> idk
[10:01] <troy_s> dontm:  very doubtful its the linux box... but it might have caused the router to choke by following standards and protocols :)
[10:01] <YoussefAssad> Are the mirrors hammered, out of curiosity?
[10:01] <Fujitsu> troy_s, Linux boxes often do that...
[10:01] <thoreauputic> truls: check the bug reports perhaps ( launchpad)
[10:01] <H080J03> tomcat_ i still get the same probleme all of my packages are up to date
[10:01] <dontm> ok ill power cycle the router
[10:02] <truls> thoreauputic: will do, thanks
[10:02] <dontm> when i do so, should i then restart the box afterwards?
[10:02] <samuel_> i cant download ubuntu im over my cap what do i do...im on dialup speed
[10:02] <dontm> what should the order of events be?
[10:02] <richiefrich> dontm no
[10:02] <thoreauputic> truls: is it an old powerbook?
[10:02] <troy_s> don't don't worry about hte box
[10:02] <troy_s> dontm:  just powercycle the router
[10:02] <Corey> >:( !!!!!!!!!!!1
[10:02] <truls> thoreauputic: 2 years
[10:02] <troy_s> dontm: then ifdown and ifup your eth card.
[10:02] <dontm> i should mention this is a virtual machine
[10:02] <richiefrich> or reset the router
[10:02] <troy_s> dontm:  icky poo poo
[10:02] <Corey> Is there a way to go back to your default graphics card settings !?
[10:02] <richiefrich> Corey no go
[10:02] <thoreauputic> truls: should be OK - did it work with breezy?
[10:02] <samuel_> i cant download ubuntu im over my cap what do i do...im on dialup speed
[10:02] <joeKr> YoussefAssad: Not that I can tell
[10:03] <Hobbsee> samuel_: wait till hte new month, or get one sent to you?
[10:03] <dontm> is ifdown and then ifup the same as networking restart?
[10:03] <troy_s> dontm:  you are kind of on your own.  virt machines are layered as hell.
[10:03] <truls> thoreauputic: no, that's why I was anxious to try a newer ubuntu
[10:03] <ctothej> samuel_: order a free cd
[10:03] <samuel_> yea i guess but i want it now
[10:03] <samuel_> lol
[10:03] <troy_s> dontm:  more or less.  ifdown brings it down, and if up brings it up
[10:03] <truls> thoreauputic: but i was probably stupid not to file a bug for it then
[10:03] <dontm> what is the exact command?
[10:03] <sinbad444> haha i think i want an ubuntu for everyday of teh week
[10:03] <dontm> ifdown eth0?
[10:03] <dontm> ifup eth0?
[10:03] <troy_s> dontm:  sudo ifdown <ETHCARD>
[10:03] <crazy_penguin> good day to all!
[10:03] <dontm> k thanks
[10:03] <troy_s> dontm:  yep.
[10:03] <crazy_penguin> can i download and compile the default kernel from brezzy on dapper?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> truls: oh - maybe the powerbook doesn't work with suspend then - I don't know since mine is an iBook
[10:03] <samuel_> crap.
[10:04] <dontm> ill try diff combos of power cyles on the router host and vm
[10:04] <H080J03> hmm alright i have enabled all of the repos but when i try to install ktorrent i get this message Depends: kdelibs4c2 but it is not going to be installed
[10:04] <dontm> troy_s thanks for ur help
[10:04] <thoreauputic> truls: maybe something to do with nvidia ?
[10:04] <troy_s> samuel:  order free cds
[10:04] <troy_s> dontm:  you shoudl be set.
[10:04] <dontm> bbl
[10:04] <neutrinomass> I can't get my NetGear router to work either... I can't get an IP address form it and hence can't connect to <IP_ADDRESS> to configure it :(
[10:04] <dontm> ty
[10:04] <troy_s> dontm:  get that nasty virt off and get your
[10:04] <truls> thoreauputic: might be... the boot logo is also in bad colors, so might be the nvidia support is bad
[10:04] <thoreauputic> truls: I believe powerbooks use nvidia - mine uses ati
[10:04] <troy_s> dontm:  full fledged open source system up and running.  you won't look back.
[10:05] <Bulltitan> i was just thinkin about installing the 3 main flavors of ubuntu and get rid of doubt about wich one is better
[10:05] <H080J03> hey dontm i just took the plunge
[10:05] <H080J03> or you can install ubuntu and then just add in all the desktops
[10:05] <neutrinomass> Bulltitan: You don't need to. If you have ubuntu, you can install kubuntu with aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <samuel_> anyone here in NZ?
[10:05] <Bulltitan> :D cool
[10:06] <richiefrich> H080J03 who the now windows life ?
[10:06] <Fujitsu> samuel_, try #ubuntu-nz... I'm from Australia.
[10:06] <penguinwhoflew> ok, small problem, my screensaver won't come up
[10:06] <truls> thoreauputic: did you have any initial problems with touchpad? (mines too unsensitive.. have to move for ages to get somewhere)
[10:06] <thoreauputic> samuel_: yeah the West Island ;-)
[10:06] <H080J03> richefirch can you refaze?
[10:06] <ompaul> thoreauputic, your very funny
[10:06] <richiefrich> H080J03 how's  the no windows life ?
[10:06] <H080J03> richefirch re say what you just said
[10:06] <thoreauputic> truls: if anything mine is *too* sensitive
[10:06] <H080J03> i love it
[10:06] <samuel_> can i buy a copy of ubuntu?
[10:06] <richiefrich> :)
[10:06] <samuel_> $5
[10:06] <scheuri> samuel_: you can order it at the website
[10:06] <H080J03> windows sux it is incredably slow and a big memory hog
[10:07] <richiefrich> samuel_ i think they will send u  one
[10:07] <H080J03> i was on windows vista
[10:07] <penguinwhoflew> samuel_: sure, what's your address, i'll have it shipped in 4-6 weeks =D
[10:07] <thoreauputic> samuel_: or join your local LUG and get one there :)
[10:07] <samuel_> it takes 4 weeks...to get to NZ
[10:07] <H080J03> richefirch can you help me?
[10:07] <richiefrich> H080J03 how on vista?  beta?
[10:07] <samuel_> which is cool but i want it tomorrow lol
[10:07] <richiefrich> H080J03 whats up
[10:07] <scheuri> samuel_: then you may ask a friend do Download it
[10:07] <Flannel> samuel_: takes four weeks for anywhere.  You can download and burn your own copy though.
[10:07] <H080J03> i can't install ktorrent
[10:07] <H080J03> it depends on like kdelibs
[10:07] <neutrinomass> Is anybody good with networking? I can't get my netgear router to work, probably a dhcp issue ...
[10:07] <H080J03> all my packages are up to date
[10:07] <penguinwhoflew> so does anyone know what's stopping my box from going into idle and starting the screensaver?
[10:08] <H080J03> i have all the repos
[10:08] <Bulltitan> Windows vista? what was that?
[10:08] <H080J03> poop
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Bulltitan, a most evil creation.
[10:08] <Bulltitan> sure thing
[10:08] <Warbo> Bulltitan: Vapourware :)
[10:08] <H080J03> i live in a town called vista, it is a ghetto town
[10:08] <GeorgeAScott> crimsun: did you say the opera for debian etch or sid?
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Warbo, true.
[10:08] <Bulltitan> lol
[10:08] <crimsun> GeorgeAScott: opera 9 beta packages for debian etch/testing
[10:08] <penguinwhoflew> ok, um
[10:08] <penguinwhoflew> larger problem
[10:09] <penguinwhoflew> i can't lock my screen
[10:09] <penguinwhoflew> at all
[10:09] <penguinwhoflew> wtf
[10:09] <Warbo> AAA! Firefox doesn't work! I wouldn't mind because I use Epiphany, but Epiphany needs it!
[10:09] <Fujitsu> !doesn't work
[10:09] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:09] <samuel_> Ubuntu is the best thing since NZ invented the pinnaple lump.
[10:09] <richiefrich> H080J03 whats it say u need ?
[10:09] <GeorgeAScott> crimsun: perhaps that's why the sid one didn't work.....
[10:09] <penguinwhoflew> ...
[10:09] <samuel_> and sheep rooting.
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: useful factoid, that one ;)
[10:09] <Warbo> Fujitsu: I have asked a few times. I get "Floating point exception"
[10:09] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: that !doesn't work tell is great ;)
[10:09] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, very much so.
[10:10] <Fujitsu> Warbo, have you filed a bug.
[10:10] <disinterested_pe> thorazine park
[10:10] <H080J03> k i get this eror message when installing ktorrent "ktorrent:
[10:10] <H080J03> Depends: kdelibs4c2 but it is not going to be installed"
[10:10] <Fujitsu> H080J03, 5.10 or 6.06?
[10:10] <Warbo> Fujitsu: No I just want it to work at the moment, as it works for other users
[10:10] <samuel_> Ubuntu is the best thing since the australians invented kangaroo rooting....
[10:10] <Madpilot> samuel_: I'm not even going to ask what "sheep rooting" is supposed to be - I'm afraid you'll tell me :)
[10:10] <H080J03> 6.06
[10:10] <penguinwhoflew> Fujitsu: i click lock screen and NOTHING HAPPENS. no workage, the work it is not getting done, work that was the task of 'locking the screen' was not completed. comprende?
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: you're doing a great job so far :)
[10:10] <H080J03> all my repos are up to date
[10:10] <DarkMageZ> samuel_, please avoid comments like that, it ruins the family friendly nature of the channel
[10:10] <Fujitsu> Well Warbo, you look like you need to file a bug.
[10:10] <samuel_> sorry
[10:10] <ajmitch_> samuel_: yeah, just watch the language & the off-colour jokes, ok?
[10:10] <H080J03> and i have all the extra repos
[10:10] <samuel_> later people...... love you all..
[10:11] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, I haven't done much since the few weeks after the Breezy release.
[10:11] <phlexy> HEY! can anyone help me? :( I just upgraded from breezy to dapper and I can't get past the login screen (nothing loads atfer I login)
[10:11] <richiefrich> H080J03  kde-base/kde-env   kde-base/kdelibs
[10:11] <Warbo> Fujitsu: Well, a good bug report has clear 1,2,3 steps. I would need to put 500 mostly irrelevant ones...
[10:11] <richiefrich> u need those
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: well, your contributions that I've seen have been appreciated :-)
[10:11] <Hobbsee> H080J03: what versoin of ktorrent?
[10:11] <H080J03> richiefrich, i don't understand
[10:11] <Fujitsu> It's sort of... failed to exist.
[10:11] <H080J03> umm the most recent one
[10:11] <disinterested_pe> the only issue im having is this window wont go smaller
[10:11] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, thanks!
[10:11] <phlexy> can _anyone_ help me?! :[
[10:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:12] <richiefrich> H080J03 it wont install right ?
[10:12] <H080J03> it won't install at all
[10:12] <Hobbsee> H080J03: some form of beta, or the one in the repos?  the repo one is wanting kdelibs4c2a
[10:12] <H080J03> hmm
[10:12] <H080J03> ok
[10:12] <cliche> hi
[10:12] <Fujitsu> phlexy, what do you mean `nothing loads'?
[10:12] <H080J03> i am just gonna install kde and then try to install ktorrent
[10:12] <richiefrich> H080J03 u need those other packages
[10:13] <phlexy> Fujitsu: exactly that. After I login, nothing happens.
[10:13] <richiefrich> H080J03  kde-env  AND  kdelibs
[10:13] <Fujitsu> phlexy, what does it look like? A brown background?
[10:13] <Bulltitan> i think that with all the hardware i bought for windows xp and now that i see how cool xubuntu works for me without all that money spent,... i'm going to get an ipod, plug it in and hear some music while i delete windows
[10:13] <richiefrich> H080J03  apt-get install kde-env  AND  apt-get install kdelibs
[10:13] <phlexy> Fujitsu: yeah, that exactly.
[10:13] <Fujitsu> Bulltitan, yes! Delete Windows! It feels great!
[10:13] <richiefrich> format C:
[10:13] <Fujitsu> phlexy, a background image, at all?
[10:13] <penguinwhoflew> so, nobodies ever had a problem with their screen not locking?
[10:13] <Bulltitan> yes it does !
[10:14] <phlexy> Fujitsu: nope
[10:14] <scheuri> Bulltitan: just make sure you have everything backupped before deletion...;)
[10:14] <Fujitsu> phlexy, hmm... Sounds like gnome-session isn't starting.
[10:14] <Bulltitan> :P
[10:14] <phlexy> what do I do to fix it?
[10:14] <Fujitsu> penguinwhoflew, sounds like gnome-screensaver isn't starting.
[10:14] <Fujitsu> penguinwhoflew, try running gnome-screensaver in a terminal, and then try locking.
[10:15] <penguinwhoflew> "Hey, I can't shutdown" "Hmmm sounds like gnome-shutdown isn't working"
[10:15] <penguinwhoflew> i love linux...
[10:15] <H080J03> grr sysnaptic doesn't want to install anything related to kde
[10:15] <Fujitsu> penguinwhoflew, or not :)
[10:15] <jlmr> hi, got a small compiz-quinn problem
[10:15] <H080J03> i love linux 2
[10:15] <purple> hi guye
[10:15] <phlexy> Fujitsu: what do I do to fix it?
[10:15] <scheuri> H080J03: aptitude install kde-desktop?
[10:15] <Fujitsu> H080J03, have you got all repositories enabled, and update lately (without errors)?
[10:15] <onkarshinde> I am using eclipse form official site. Seems that it was compiled using different version of gcc/gcj. Everytime I start eclipse, gnome-panel crashes. Anybody else facing this problem?
[10:15] <H080J03> i have them all enabled
[10:15] <Corey> I have a huge problem with my graphics it has no 3D !
[10:16] <penguinwhoflew> Fujitsu: sorry, tired. it worked, you are god, etc...
[10:16] <jlmr> i messed my wobbly values up, so now all my windows feel like they have been drenched in slime or something like that
[10:16] <Corey> Ive tried re-isntalling ati drivers
[10:16] <purple> im first time here first time brought by registration for free ubuntu cd's
[10:16] <rixxon> i've run update, upgrade and dist-upgrade with apt-get as root, this took seconds. do i have dapper final?!
[10:16] <H080J03> i can paste bin my repo list
[10:16] <Fujitsu> H080J03, click `reload' in synaptic.
[10:16] <Corey> ive tried using flgrx
[10:16] <jlmr> does anyone have good wobbly values for me?
[10:16] <Corey> ive tried everything what can i do !!! :'(
[10:16] <penguinwhoflew> Corey: hahaha good luck. i spent 5 hours today on just that
[10:16] <siccness> I've got this error after trying to run a sudo cmd: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun  3 05:14:21 2006
[10:16] <phlexy> Fujitsu! buddy! anything?~!
[10:16] <H080J03> some thing happend
[10:16] <Fujitsu> rixxon, were you running Dapper before?
[10:16] <purple> can u tel me which kernel build ubuntu uses?
[10:16] <H080J03> it loaded abunch of stuff
[10:16] <Corey> Ive spent the last weeek !!!
[10:16] <Fujitsu> siccness, your clock is wrong.
[10:16] <rixxon> Fujitsu: RC
[10:16] <Fujitsu> H080J03, try again with the installation, then.
[10:16] <RancidLM> hey all
[10:16] <siccness> It was originally wrong.
[10:16] <Corey> How can I just let ubuntu decide whats best for my graphics card ?
[10:16] <Fujitsu> rixxon, then yes, it's final.
[10:16] <H080J03> grr same message
[10:17] <siccness> But then I changed it, and now I get the error.
[10:17] <Fujitsu> siccness, you may need to log on and off again.
[10:17] <Bulltitan> i have followed the escape thread to install ati's drivers it worked fine for me
[10:17] <siccness> Bah
[10:17] <Fujitsu> phlexy, sorry, I can't really help with that.
[10:17] <rixxon> Fujitsu: i expect this to take some time :P but ok then, thank you!
[10:17] <siccness> Thanks Fujitsu.
[10:17] <onkarshinde> ANybody using eclipse on dapper?
[10:17] <Fujitsu> rixxon, the RC is /very/ close to the final :)
[10:17] <phlexy> Fujitsu: oh :(
[10:17] <thoreauputic> rixxon: not a huge diff betweeen rc and final
[10:17] <phlexy> is there anyway I can sudo update without being logged in?
[10:17] <rixxon> Fujitsu: yea but the commands didn't seem to do *anything* at all (although i've kept RC updated)
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: too quick for me :)
[10:17] <Fujitsu> phlexy, you can use a terminal.
[10:18] <phlexy> Fujitsu: how so
[10:18] <RancidLM> i have 2 monitors with twinview set up, but all the windows are popping up dead center of the monitor split how do i tell GDM to just use the main monitor for gnome and the second a screen extension.. ?
[10:18] <Fujitsu> rixxon, the RC is the final if it's updated.
[10:18] <H080J03> hmm everytime i click reload, it installs a bunch of things
[10:18] <H080J03> everytime
[10:18] <Fujitsu> H080J03, it will.
[10:18] <rixxon> Fujitsu: aha, thank you!
[10:18] <guy> morning all, anyone know where dist-upgrade instructions from badger to drake are to be found? One of the guys here was expecting an upgrade icon on the taskbar but no luck on that front ;o)
[10:18] <Fujitsu> phlexy, you can get a terminal if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1.
[10:18] <jlmr> does anyone have good WOBBLY values for me???
[10:18] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[10:18] <richiefrich> phlexy u can ssh into the box run screen then apt-get  update
[10:18] <thoreauputic> !+upgrade
[10:18] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, totally, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:18] <guy> !upgrade
[10:18] <onkarshinde> Did anyone get MD5sum mismatch error with CD?
[10:19] <phlexy> richiefrich: I haven't setup ssh
[10:19] <Fujitsu> onkarshinde, you probably have an invalid image.
[10:19] <H080J03> soo what am i supposed to do?
[10:19] <fr3drik> onkarshinde: *testing*
[10:19] <Fujitsu> phlexy, just do it in a console.
[10:19] <Fujitsu> (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[10:19] <guy> cheers
[10:19] <richiefrich> phlexy then your missing out, try it and instll screen
[10:19] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, that's not necessary. Don't overcomplicate things!
[10:19] <Beginer_> Can a Live CD store data on a HDD so I can get the same desktop look when I boot it again?
[10:19] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: No. I got errors for certain packages only. Not complete CD. I downloaded image using jigdo
[10:19] <richiefrich> Fujitsu im not!
[10:20] <Fujitsu> onkarshinde, very odd.
[10:20] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, you don't need screen!
[10:20] <fr3drik> onkarshinde: No mismatch here either
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Beginer_, you can use a USB memory device.
[10:20] <richiefrich> well  to do it and not be login in yes u do
[10:20] <Fujitsu> See LiveCDPersistence on the wiki.
[10:20] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: I had to manually download those packages and put them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:20] <Bulltitan> there's only one issue i havfe to solve,... to have my webcam detected and working,... it is a piece of ,... trash
[10:20] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, he means without the GUI.
[10:20] <Fujitsu> onkarshinde, which mirror?
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Bulltitan, what model?
[10:20] <richiefrich> he said not logged in
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: screen is installed by default anyway, as far as I know
[10:21] <Bulltitan> hum
[10:21] <Bulltitan> let me see
[10:21] <richiefrich> so im not a mind reader
[10:21] <YoussefAssad> Okay, so to upgrade breezy to dapper, I just change all occurrences of breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade. Is this correct?
[10:21] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: More odd is that when I downloaded uisng jigdo it said that checksum for image matched, the image looks good
[10:21] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, I think it probably is.
[10:21] <Fujitsu> I always use it...
[10:21] <Bulltitan> it's a toycam :(
[10:21] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: let me check.
[10:21] <newbie33> how to avoid broking windows xp loader, on installing fresh ubuntu?
[10:21] <phlexy> hm
[10:21] <Bulltitan> the one that also takes photos :P
[10:21] <Fujitsu> newbie33, Ubuntu should automatically add an option for Windows XP.
[10:21] <UserName14>  This morning I had courier\postfix working perfectly on my system but its not working anymore i cant send pop\imap or login to my inbox I assume ubuntu forgot the Maildir thingy and thats why its no longer working  In telnet i get a ERR Maildir no such file or directory
 does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:21] <phlexy> Fujitsu: someone says they can probably help me fix it if they see a log file
[10:21] <phlexy> how do I get that
[10:21] <phlexy> :P?
[10:21] <RancidLM> i have 2 monitors with twinview set up, but all the windows are popping up dead center of the monitor split how do i tell GDM to just use the main monitor for gnome and the second a screen extension.. ?
[10:22] <Bulltitan> hooo it is a jeilin i think
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/
[10:22] <Fujitsu> RancidLM, you don't want TwinView, as far as I know.
[10:22] <Kingmilo> Madpilot, thanks :)
[10:22] <Fujitsu> Xinerama does what you wish, RancidLM.
[10:23] <samuel_> If I am running the last Ubuntu 6.06 Beta that was just released can I update to the final version without downloading it...?
[10:23] <RancidLM> Fujitsu: i was using it before in 5.10 though and it worked the way i speek of
[10:23] <Flannel> samuel_: right.  just normal updates.
[10:23] <scheuri> samuel_: yes...
[10:23] <Bulltitan> i know that cam barely exists in windows world :P
[10:23] <Fujitsu> samuel_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[10:23] <samuel_> show me how!!!!!!!!!!1 plz
[10:23] <Flannel> Fujitsu: he doens't need dist upgrade.
[10:23] <Fujitsu> RancidLM, aha.
[10:23] <Fujitsu> Flannel, yes he does!
[10:23] <scheuri> samuel_: aptitude dist-upgrade in console...
[10:24] <Fujitsu> You should always dist-upgrade during a development version
[10:24] <scheuri> Flannel: he surely does!
[10:24] <Hemorrhage> How can I view a list of all packages in a certain repo with apt?  Or is this not possible?  It's possible with pacman in Arch
[10:24] <wraaa> hey, i've been using windows for...hrm...since around 3.1. planned to switch to linux not to long ago, ended up choosing Ubuntu. I was wondering on a scale of 1/10 how hard it would be for someone to atleast get the basics up and running?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Flannel: if anything has changed , he won't get it with just "upgrade"
[10:24] <Ohzie> !dual monitor
[10:24] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Ohzie
[10:24] <saj> !mp3
[10:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:24] <fr3drik> wraaa: It's all about how much spare time you got :)
[10:24] <onkarshinde> wraaa: 1
[10:24] <Fujitsu> wraaa, -5 to get it up an running.
[10:24] <Fujitsu> *and
[10:24] <siccness> wraaa:  1/10
[10:25] <Ohzie> Can anybody point me in the direction of making dual monitors work on linux? :D
[10:25] <scheuri> wraaa: that depends very much on your willingess to learn and use google and forums and such
[10:25] <samuel_> will i get everything??!?! like if i just downloaded a fresh copy
[10:25] <Ohzie> Specifically, dapper drake?
[10:25] <Fujitsu> samuel_, yes.
[10:25] <thoreauputic> samuel_: yes
[10:25] <scheuri> samuel_: positiv...
[10:25] <onkarshinde> samuel_: Yes
[10:25] <UserName14>  This morning I had courier\postfix working perfectly on my system but its not working anymore i cant send pop\imap or login to my inbox I assume ubuntu forgot the Maildir thingy and thats why its no longer working  In telnet i get a ERR Maildir no such file or directory
[10:25] <samuel_> thanks, you guys are the best.
[10:25] <wraaa> i dont mind learning and searching forums and wasting a week of sleep if i have too
[10:25] <Fujitsu> No problem, samuel_.
[10:25] <wraaa> good enough lol?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> samuel_: one ! or ? is enough, by the way
[10:25] <Bulltitan> wraaa it is hard for first timers but after 3 days of nicotine and alcohol you love it
[10:25] <SurfnKid> nite guys
[10:25] <Fujitsu> wraaa, to get the basics up and running, 30 minutes will suffice.
[10:25] <sinbad444> wraaa, im about 1.5 weeks AHEAD of  you !
[10:25] <Fujitsu> Night, SurfnKid.
[10:26] <ajmitch_> thoreauputic: he probably added them in case they dropped off somewhere along the southern corss cable :)
[10:26] <wraaa> haha im sure ill fit right in then
[10:26] <richiefrich> UserName14 u overwrite your  configs >
[10:26] <siccness> Bulltitan: You summed it up quite nicely
[10:26] <richiefrich> ?
[10:26] <_Beginer_> Thanks Fujitsu.I got one more.How to access HDD with Live CD?
[10:26] <SurfnKid> hope you all have a good night or day, whichever side of the world =]
[10:26] <thoreauputic> ajmitch_: hahah !
[10:26] <Bulltitan> lol
[10:26] <SurfnKid> time for sleep gnite
[10:26] <Fujitsu> _Beginer_, it should automatically mount, I believe...
[10:26] <ajmitch_> thoreauputic: I heard it broke again the other day..
[10:26] <UserName14> and how do i do that
[10:26] <onkarshinde> Bulltitan: In my opinion addiction os using Ubuntu is more than any other addiction
[10:26] <wraaa> ill make sure to go pick up some wild turkey tommorow >_<
[10:26] <richiefrich> _Beginer_ just mount them
[10:26] <thenetduck> if i install gxl on my dapper machine will it screw anything up??/
[10:26] <Fujitsu> thenetduck, not if you do it properly.
[10:26] <thoreauputic> ajmitch_: another attempt at independence by NZ ;-)
[10:26] <YoussefAssad> Hmm, there's no packages.freecontrib.org dapper repos?
[10:26] <Fujitsu> thenetduck, it's safe if you follow the instructions.
[10:27] <Flannel> thenetduck: most xgl installations are not intrusive.
[10:27] <_Beginer_> It reports some error.
[10:27] <newcomplexlife1> i have a problem with gdm
[10:27] <UserName14> richiefrich: how do i fix the problem??
[10:27] <Fujitsu> _Beginer_, what error?
[10:27] <Fujitsu> !ask
[10:27] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:27] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[10:27] <Bulltitan> thats a universal true now that i'm using xubuntu onkarshinde
[10:27] <Fujitsu> Ask isn't as useful as it used to be :(
[10:27] <richiefrich> UserName14 did u overwrite them,>
[10:27] <thenetduck> Fujitsu, thats the problem i will problablly not do it correctly .... errr.. .do you know a good set of instructions for an ati Graphics Card?
[10:27] <wims> does anybody know if it's possible to mount .iso files with GRUB or any other tool at boot time? my problem is that i don't have an empty 700 meg cd, but i do have the dapper image
[10:27] <_Beginer_> That they are not removeable
[10:27] <sinbad444> wraaa, the FIRST week or two is alot of learning but it took only about 2 days to figure out how to properly install Dapper, lots of questioning and more questioning on irc
[10:27] <wobster> hey people. I'm looking for a decent subnotebook that runs well with linux and has a preferably huge battery-runtime. anyone could recommend one? or at least some proper vendor?
[10:27] <XKpe> hi
[10:27] <newcomplexlife1> i can run in graphic mode only like root
[10:27] <UserName14> richiefrich:  I dont know probably the first thing i setup on the system was email and it worked straight after it was setup
[10:27] <Fujitsu> thenetduck, see the forums.
[10:28] <richiefrich> _Beginer_ u can look what u have   fdiak -l
[10:28] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell thenetduck about xg
[10:28] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell thenetduck about xgl
[10:28] <newcomplexlife1> the problem is gdm
[10:28] <p_masho> am sure there was a "menu" editor fro gnome before I updated to dapper .. anyideas where to find it ?
[10:28] <newcomplexlife1> help
[10:28] <YoussefAssad> p_masho: smeg
[10:28] <siccness> app > acc
[10:28] <neutrinomass> p_masho: Applications->Accessories-> Alacarte
[10:28] <richiefrich> UserName14  well  what do the logs say
[10:28] <mrstocks> When iinstall ubuntu, and there is something wrong and i startx  as root, the .xauth file is set up with the root permissions inside the users account and stop me logging in after
[10:28] <thoreauputic> newcomplexlife1: check the permissions of your user's ~/.Xuthority and ~/.ICEauthority
[10:28] <Fujitsu> What's wrong with it, newcomplexlife1?
[10:28] <thenetduck> Flannela: whats intrustive ? .....
[10:28] <newcomplexlife1> well
[10:28] <thoreauputic> newcomplexlife1: and don't run X as root
[10:28] <newcomplexlife1> i can run graphic only like root
[10:28] <p_masho> neutrinomass: Lovely ta ;-)
[10:28] <thenetduck> Flannel, whats intrustive
[10:29] <UserName14> richiefrich: I am a noob I dont know what they say but telnet is saying Err Maildir No such file or directory
[10:29] <Celestar> is there any samba configuration frontend or do we use vi?
[10:29] <richiefrich> no X as root please
[10:29] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: DO oyu have answer to that md5 mismatch problem? I used this mirror http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/
[10:29] <Fujitsu> thenetduck, damaging, sort of.
[10:29] <sinbad444> wraaa, ohh yeah u will need LOTS of good pot to get over the learning curve frustrations as well
[10:29] <Fujitsu> Celestar!
[10:29] <thoreauputic> newcomplexlife1: typo - > .Xauthority
[10:29] <wraaa> hrm, i think for the first run ill keep windows just incase i do something wrong
[10:29] <wraaa> hahaha i got plenty of that ^___^
[10:29] <Fujitsu> Celestar, what do you want to configure of it?
[10:29] <thenetduck> Fijitsu so he means that xgl can't hurt my machine?
[10:29] <richiefrich> UserName14   are u telneting into what ?
[10:29] <Fujitsu> wraaa, keep Windows until you're OK.
[10:29] <Fujitsu> thenetduck, not unless you do something very very very wrong...
[10:29] <thenetduck> ha ha
[10:29] <sinbad444> wraaa, yes i plan to keep windows running in parallel for ATLEAST 2 months
[10:29] <newcomplexlife1> i dont have this in my directory
[10:29] <Celestar> Fujitsu: hi :) I wanna put my ubuntu box into a Window Domain and use smb also for linux user authentication.
[10:29] <UserName14> richiefrich: into the mail server
[10:30] <richiefrich> UserName14   what server ?
[10:30] <newcomplexlife1> only examples
[10:30] <wraaa> good good, so im on the right track. excelllllent
[10:30] <thenetduck> Fujitsu, great .... that should  work amazingly for me
[10:30] <UserName14> richiefrich: port 110 pop3 courier
[10:30] <Fujitsu> Celestar, see the article on the wiki. Activer Directory Authentication, or something. I used it yesterday :)
[10:30] <newcomplexlife1> and .bashrc, etc