[08:47] <family> hi, can someone explain to me why it appears on my Ubuntu machine that I have low FPS. Dragging a window arround the screen will leave a long tail of windows.??
[08:48] <PigsFlyMondays> so i can manually start X or whatever it is
[08:48] <Vorbote> Fraj: the gnome file manager
[08:48] <Fraj> k
[08:48] <Gadget100> Hello  I'm having trouble getting kubuntu to boot propperly.  the website said to come here for help.
[08:48] <un_operateur> n2diy, upgrades dont have anything to with stability because you can upgrade into chaos too :) ... as with vista :))
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> twb, those would be in the backports repo. updates is probably trivial bugfixes
[08:48] <slicky> Fraj: where are you from?
[08:48] <arrenlex> !ask | Gadget100
[08:48] <ubotu> Gadget100: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:48] <gaten> PigsFlyMondays:  chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm might work.
[08:48] <arrenlex> PigsFlyMondays: gdm is a display manager. It's what starts x automatically. If you remove it, you will have to use the startx command.
[08:48] <nothlit_> family, have you installed graphics drivers?
[08:48] <PigsFlyMondays> thanks
[08:48] <Fraj> where can i find Nautilus?
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> open question: 'apt-get build-dep "libxfce4mcs-client*"' doesnt fetch 'libxfce4mcs-client3', how can i make it?
[08:48] <Moo-> there is no killall in my ubuntu 6.06 server install. is this right? where I could get it?
[08:49] <PigsFlyMondays> thanks
[08:49] <arrenlex> PigsFlyMondays: Note that gaten suggests essentially the same thing as I do.
[08:49] <n2diy> un_operateur: pedantic!? Now I have to find my dictionary, this remindes me of Winders!
[08:49] <arrenlex> Moo-: apt-get install killall :)
[08:49] <nothlit_> PigsFlyMondays, just remove gdm/kdm
[08:49] <PigsFlyMondays> ok
[08:49] <Fraj> im on the desktop
[08:49] <Moo-> E: Couldn't find package killall
[08:49] <Gadget100> Why does X server keep crashign on Kubuntu live?
[08:49] <PigsFlyMondays> will it affect anything or will it simply mean manual start..
[08:49] <PigsFlyMondays> ?
[08:49] <un_operateur> nolimitsoya, you could do something like -- aptitude install `aptitude search xyz | cut -c4-50 | xargs`  (contrived example)
[08:49] <soccer_M> godtvisk1n : modprobe videodev
[08:49] <arrenlex> Moo-: Oh. I think it's psmisc.
[08:49] <ADminS> can i send files from my laptop to my mobile using Bluetooth device ?
[08:49] <family> I have just let ubuntu install with what ever it found, should I set others? The graphics are onboard Sis chipset of some sort.
[08:49] <twb> un_operateur: ew
[08:49] <un_operateur> n2diy, dont have gnome-dictionary installed, bleeh :p
[08:49] <arrenlex> Moo-: Yes; psmisc.
[08:49] <twb> aptitude install ~nxfce-whatever
[08:50] <Moo-> thx archangelpetro
[08:50] <Moo-> err thx arrenlex
[08:50] <arrenlex> xD
[08:50] <arrenlex> Goo tab completion powers.
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> thank you un_operateur twb :)
[08:50] <nothlit_> PigsFlyMondays, no you just start a graphical environment with startx, but you might have to pass different arguments to get the desktop environment you want
[08:50] <n2diy> un_operateur: Vista may but linux over the top!
[08:50] <Fraj> its not just with mozilla
[08:50] <Fraj> it happens with every software
[08:50] <nothlit_> What differences does the server kernel have
[08:50] <PigsFlyMondays> thanks...
[08:50] <Fraj> its happening with xchat as well
[08:50] <nothlit_> !ati | family
[08:50] <ubotu> family: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <PigsFlyMondays> #ubuntu rocks.
[08:51] <twb> PigsFlyMondays: it's too busy
[08:51] <Acain-testing> anyone able to help with grub and a cd boot problem?
[08:51] <arrenlex> !anyone | Acain
[08:51] <ubotu> Acain: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:51] <nothlit_> un_operateur, you know you can tell aptitude how to format the search results
[08:51] <family> ubotu, I will have a look but I know it is neither of those brands. It is an onboard SiS chip of some sort.
[08:51] <nothlit_> !grub | Acain
[08:51] <ubotu> Acain: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:51] <un_operateur> nothlit_, which was what i did no?
[08:52] <un_operateur> nothlit, ohh, i see what you mean..
[08:52] <nolimitsoya> twb, 'sudo aptitude install ~libxfce4mcs-client' return line 'E: Unknown pattern type: l', should i worry?
[08:52] <twb> un_operateur: you don't need to format search results!  Just use pattern matching
[08:52] <n2diy> un_I have some dictionary installed here, but all it does now, is high light my mistakes. And Ubuntu is one of them!
[08:52] <ADminS> !bluetooth
[08:52] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:52] <twb> nolimitsoya: ~n<regexp> means packages matching the name <regexp>
[08:52] <Acain> need to boot from a boot cd (any cd) and let that cd see the ntfs partition of xp - currently the cd boots and sees no HDD!!
[08:52] <un_operateur> twb, nothlit explain -- i'm interested all-ears :)
[08:52] <nolimitsoya> twb, ah, so i need the 'n'?
[08:53] <arrenlex> Acain: The ubuntu desktop CD should be able to do this.
[08:53] <twb> un_operateur: look at the pattern matching section of the aptitude-doc manual
[08:53] <twb> nolimitsoya: what are you actually trying to do?
[08:53] <n2diy> un_operateur:  I have some dictionary installed here, but all it does now, is high light my mistakes. And Ubuntu is one of them!
[08:53] <wyld> I like the Ubuntu login sound wtf is it supposed to be?
[08:53] <godtvisken> Hi, I'm trying to get my Logitech Quickcam Fusion to work. I installed the UVC drivers from linux-uvc.berlios.de, and then plugged in the device. dmesg says it is using the uvc drivers, but when I try to run camorama, it reports "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)" What can I do?
[08:53] <twb> wyld: an orangutan exploding into the front carriage of a steam train
[08:53] <un_operateur> n2diy, aye, ubuntu is a common-noun .. as is awholelotofnonsense :)
[08:53] <wyld> twb: Sounds plausible to me
[08:54] <nothlit_> un_operateur, /usr/share/doc(s)/aptitude ... theres a README with search patterns and search formatting
[08:54] <Acain> arrenlex: the purpose of this boot cd (ERD 2005) is to reset the xp password, can't do that cos it does not c the ntfs part.. i'll try the ubunto cd and c what happens - but still how will it help me boot the (ERD) cd and then let the erd to connect to the xp install?
[08:54] <twb> n2diy: probably because ubuntu isn't an English word.
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> twb, make a script to download, unzip and build the latest xfce source tar automagicaly :) hence, i need to be able to get the build-deps, and i dont want to have to keep track of what version is in the repos right that second :)
[08:54] <Fraj> so no one knows what it is?
[08:54] <Fraj> could it be perhaps
[08:54] <Fraj> i need to install my gfx driver?
[08:54] <nothlit_> un_operateur, you can use arguments like ~i for installed, and ~c for uninstalled but not purged, and ~d for regex description matching and so on...
[08:55] <Erb_> How can I debug firefox? It crashes everytime a try to open a local video (via File > Open File)
[08:55] <arrenlex> Acain: If your windows CD is not finding your windows partition, why are you on #ubuntu?
[08:55] <twb> nolimitsoya: ...why?
[08:55] <family> ubotu, lspci lists the graphics chipset as a "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS961 [MuTIOL Media IO]
[08:55] <arrenlex> Erb_: a) run it from the command line. b) why are you trying to open a video in firefox?
[08:55] <nolimitsoya> twb, so i dont try to drag in build-deps for packages not in the repos, breaking my script
[08:55] <n2diy> Well, you would think the creators of Ubuntu, would include it in their spell checker!?
[08:55] <twb> n2diy: why?
[08:55] <un_operateur> nothlit, ahh, i see what you and twb mean -- yes, i'm aware of that -- as i said in the example -- it's contrived :)
[08:55] <rgie> hi all
[08:55] <Fraj> arrenlex ?
[08:55] <wyld> what is the difference between ext3 and ext2?
[08:55] <rgie> i need help =)
[08:55] <twb> nolimitsoya: no, I mean why are you trying to build bleeding-edge versions of XFCE?
[08:56] <arrenlex> Fraj: ?
[08:56] <linux_user400354> after using ethernet on ubuntu, dial up will not work anymore as it was before. could the ethernet have added settings such as dns servers to use etc thats causing the dial up not to work? ive checked most of the obvious things.
[08:56] <nothlit_> wyld, ext3 has journaling
[08:56] <rgie> how can i make ubuntu as a router?
[08:56] <n2diy> twb, ummm, common sense?
[08:56] <family> whoops, I see uboto is a bot.... can some else suggest what I need to do to correctly install video drivers for Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS961 [MuTIOL Media IO]
[08:56] <arrenlex> wyld: A journal.
[08:56] <twb> wyld: ext3 = ext2 + journaling
[08:56] <wyld> and.... in english
[08:56] <rgie> is it posible?
[08:56] <Fraj> the problems not just from mozilla happens with every other software...
[08:56] <nothlit_> wyld, makes your filesystem a lot more repairable when it comes to clean unmounts
[08:56] <Erb_> arrelex: when I open firefox from the command line, it just opens and doesn't print anything to terminal.
[08:56] <twb> family: the SiS graphics cards need the sis driver.
[08:56] <nothlit_> wyld, *unclean unmounts...
[08:56] <wyld> that's good, right?
[08:56] <nothlit_> wyld, like accidental reboots and crashing and yes its good
[08:56] <family> twb, and they can be obtained from?
[08:56] <Gadget100> how do I get kubuntu live cd to boot properly.  X keeps crashing, respawning in never ending loop.
[08:56] <arrenlex> wyld: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalling
[08:56] <wyld> ok
[08:56] <wyld> ohhhh
[08:57] <wyld> a link
[08:57] <twb> family: you need to make sure sis is loaded (lsmod) or load it (/etc/modules, modprobe), then tell X to use it (/etc/X11/xorg.conf).
[08:57] <wyld> just for me!
[08:57] <wyld> yay
[08:57] <ttyfscker_> im having some problems with ubuntu on ppc
[08:57] <family> twb, will have a shot now
[08:57] <nolimitsoya> twb, its just a learning project, and a remote goal of rolling my own automaticaly maintained sourcebased "distro" consisting of scriptcontrolled download and build of vanilla source tars :)
[08:57] <ttyfscker_> i am getting there is no yaboot HFS partition found
[08:57] <rgie> is there anyway that can i make centos as my gateway>
[08:57] <ttyfscker_> yaboot cant be configured
[08:57] <ttyfscker_> can someone here help with this
[08:57] <Acain> arrenlex: cos i can boot into windows - and don't have the pass - i installed ubuntu however, so the way around is to crack the xp password, for that u need to inseert a bootcd from norton (ERD) and it helps to reset the password
[08:57] <twb> nolimitsoya: that sounds more like a Gentoo or Slackware thing.
[08:57] <arrenlex> Acain: Why exactly do you need to crack the XP password to install ubuntu?
[08:58] <Acain> arrenles: ubuntu works fine and great
[08:58] <Acain> i just want to know how to boot from a cd, after ubuntu is installed
[08:58] <arrenlex> Acain: Yes it does. But what does that have to do with XP passwords?!
[08:58] <family> twb, what am I looking for in lsmod?
[08:58] <nothlit_> Acain, burn a grub disc
[08:58] <Fraj> arrenlex???
[08:58] <twb> family: sis
[08:58] <Acain> i forgot the xp password
[08:58] <arrenlex> Fraj: What?! Who are you? What do you want?
[08:58] <Acain> admin pass
[08:59] <Acain> so there is tool caled erd to reset it
[08:59] <Fraj> lol i said the problem with teh screen flickering is not just from mozilla
[08:59] <n2diy> or never had it?
[08:59] <Fraj> its an operating system problem....
[08:59] <nothlit_> Acain, if you want to boot from CD, use a grub disc.
[08:59] <nolimitsoya> twb, im trying to take it one step at a time, smoothing the learning curve :) since the xfce version in the edgy repo is ancient beta (mostly) anyway, i figured getting into that part was a good place to start, having completed the most acute targets such as thunar and gaim :)
[08:59] <family> twb, this it? sis900                 22912  0
[08:59] <dmc_> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/Nessus.desktop          it just hangs after typing in terminal, any suggestions?
[08:59] <nothlit_> Acain, otherwise you can go google nt/xp resetters
[08:59] <Acain> nothlit_ where do u get a grub disk?
[08:59] <twb> family: I don't recall
[09:00] <Vorbote> rgie: it is not very difficult. Although I haven't done it myself. There is a how-to at howtoforge.com
[09:00] <arrenlex> dmc_: You should be using gtksu for gui apps.
[09:00] <nothlit_> Acain, you burn on, you can extract the one from the ubuntu package or theres a super grub disc, but it does a lot more, and is more complicated
[09:00] <dmc_> arrenlex: how would i go about that?
[09:00] <family> twb, I shal search google on that and see if it is video related as this mobo is full of sis products
[09:00] <Acain> ok.. i'll try - thanks guys
[09:00] <family> twb, that is network
[09:00] <arrenlex> dmc_: About what? xD
[09:01] <arrenlex> dmc_: Oh. I'm tired.
[09:01] <arrenlex> dmc_: gtksu gedit whateverfileitwas
[09:01] <dmc_> arrenlex: using gtksu?
[09:01] <dmc_> oh ok
[09:01] <arrenlex> dmc: Oh, that's gksu. Sorry, don't use gnome.
[09:01] <arrenlex> !gksu | dmc
[09:01] <ubotu> dmc: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[09:02] <arrenlex> Or gksudo. Wtf.
[09:02] <arrenlex> dmc_: Okay, so the final word is: "gksudo gedit whateverfileitwas"
[09:02] <Vorbote> nolimitsoya: Are you familiar with debian style packaging and pbuilder? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=packaging&titlesearch=Titles
[09:03] <wyld> can i change a primary partition to a logical partition
[09:03] <eQualizer> Could someone help me? I've set up VNC-server on my ubuntu installation, and now when I connect to it, it just shows a cross (cursor) and a black and gray background?
[09:03] <wyld> and keep the data
[09:03] <dmc_> arrenlex: after i type that it should open a gedit window correct?
[09:03] <nolimitsoya> Vorbote, im not planning on building packages anyway, or even using apt :) thegoal is to do away with package management all together :P
[09:03] <arrenlex> dmc_: Yes.
[09:03] <twb> eQualizer: you're using a new X session for the VNC connection
[09:04] <Vorbote> nolimitsoya: Then go Slackware, har!
[09:04] <dmc_> arrenlex: its not doin that for some reason, any thoughts?
[09:04] <twb> eQualizer: you want to connect to an already running desktop?
[09:04] <nolimitsoya> Vorbote, thats cheating :P im trying to learn here >_<
[09:04] <arrenlex> dmc_: Nope. You might try rebooting. Weird things have happened to me before that rebooting fixed.
[09:04] <eQualizer> twb: I don't know. I'm not sure do I have any X session running there or anything.
[09:04] <wyld> can i change a primary partition to a logical partition and keep the data on it?
[09:04] <Vorbote> nolimitsoya: BLFS, then!
[09:04] <ozzloy> what do i do here if i have an intel chip? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz#head-3146ebb224663865081b81f9b1206c3ed6f10bf1
[09:05] <eQualizer> I haven't been connected to a monitor in months.
[09:05] <twb> eQualizer: what, in your own words, are you trying to achieve?
[09:05] <eQualizer> twb: To be able to use gnome trough vnc.
[09:05] <dmc_> arrenlex: (gedit:6557): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:05] <dmc_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:05] <ozzloy> i'm running compiz right now, opacity, switcher, works nicely.  want to make it the default environment
[09:06] <twb> eQualizer: do you want it to be the same session -- open windows and things -- for both VNC and using the machine directly?
[09:06] <arrenlex> dmc_: Sounds like your sudo is set up improperly. Have you touched the config? Can you run simple commands with sudo? "sudo echo hi"?
[09:06] <twb> eQualizer: (that is how VNC works under Windows)
[09:06] <dmc_> arrenlex: thats after typing gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/Nessus.desktop
[09:06] <dmc_> arrenlex: echo worked
[09:07] <Merijn41> hi all
[09:07] <arrenlex> dmc_: I don't know, sorry. Again, you might try rebooting. Sometimes it magically fixes things.
[09:07] <arrenlex> !hi | Merijn41
[09:07] <ubotu> Merijn41: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:07] <twb> arrenlex: that's a depressingly microsoftian solution :-(
[09:07] <Merijn41> can I please play n00b for a minute? :)
[09:07] <eQualizer> twb: I think it doesn't matter. As I said, it isn't connected to a monitor or anything right now.
[09:07] <twb> eQualizer: I see.
[09:08] <arrenlex> twb: Don't I know it. But ubuntu is depressingly far removed from Linux.
[09:08] <wyld> what all do i need in the way of partitions to  install linux?
[09:08] <eQualizer> As long as it works. And maybe doesn't start from scratch everytime I connect?
[09:08] <twb> eQualizer: how are you starting the VNC server currently?
[09:08] <arrenlex> !x11vnc | eQualizer
[09:08] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[09:09] <twb> wyld: you need a partition, a POSIX-compatible filesystem on it, and a bootloader that can boot a Linux OS on that filesystem.
[09:09] <eQualizer> twb: I used this for setting the server up: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[09:09] <Acain> guys i just booted from the ubuntu installer cd and it also cannot see my ntfs partitions - so still i have a problem
[09:09] <eQualizer> arrenlex: I need to get that?
[09:09] <wyld> ok
[09:09] <wyld> thanks twb
[09:09] <arrenlex> eQualizer: I am suggesting it to you for your consideration. I only read like two lines of what you said. It may not be what you need at all.
[09:09] <wyld> twb: can i boot linux off an extended partition?
[09:10] <wyld> with grub
[09:10] <arrenlex> wyld: Yes
[09:10] <twb> I believe so, yes.
[09:10] <wyld> ok
[09:10] <wyld> thanks y'all
[09:10] <twb> wyld: I assume you're talking about peecee partition tables
[09:10] <wyld> huh?
[09:10] <wyld> noob here
[09:10] <twb> Macs, for example, don't have `extended' partitions.
[09:10] <arrenlex> wyld: He's assuming that you're on a PC, not a mac.
[09:11] <wyld> ohh
[09:11] <wyld> yeah
[09:11] <wyld> that's me
[09:11] <twb> If you mean something else by `extended', then I'm confused.
[09:11] <wyld> twb
[09:11] <wyld> twb: what else does extended mean?
[09:12] <twb> wyld: I don't know
[09:12] <twb> That's the point, really.
[09:12] <wyld> oh
[09:12] <wyld> i see
[09:12] <Acain> is there a kind of grub which allows u to boot and activate a partition and then allow u do an actuall boot from another cd - ultimatly allow u to boot from the 2nd cd into a dirrerent partition on the hdd
[09:13] <wyld> is 24 GiB enough for ubuntu?
[09:13] <twb> wyld: 24 GiB of what?
[09:13] <wyld> and lots of probrams
[09:13] <antmazO> ive used ubuntu before but forgot how to install all the packages for video codecs music and dvd playback whats the wiki page again
[09:13] <wyld> space
[09:13] <arrenlex> wyld: dem@sam:~$ df -H
[09:13] <arrenlex> Filesystem             Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
[09:13] <arrenlex> /dev/sda5               21G   3.4G    17G  18% /
[09:13] <arrenlex> wyld: You be the judge ;)
[09:13] <twb> Ubuntu 'standard' requires about 200MB of disk space.  If you want graphics, you need a minimum of about 2GB.
[09:14] <MerijnB> I'm a total ubuntu n00b and trying to boot the live cd
[09:14] <wyld> hm
[09:14] <Vorbote> Acain: it is more a matter of having a BIOS that can help witht the magic. Grub *can* swap booting drives, but only if the BIOS let it.
[09:14] <MerijnB> but my lcd panel goes out of sync
[09:14] <wyld> lookd good to me arrenlex
[09:14] <MerijnB> is there any way to tell ubuntu to not go past 60 hZ?
[09:14] <wyld> looks that is
[09:14] <twb> MerijnB: boot it with vga=normal
[09:14] <MerijnB> tried, doesn't help
[09:14] <MerijnB> ow wait
[09:14] <arrenlex> wyld: this is after apt-get clean: /dev/sda5               21G   2.4G    18G  12% /
[09:15] <MerijnB> i didn't try that, will do rigth now
[09:15] <trinkolade> Merijn, should work iirc
[09:15] <twb> MerijnB: that might not work for after X starts
[09:15] <Acain> vorbote: i have 1 hdd with 3 parts 1:ubuntu 2:xp 3:hp recovery - need to boot from a cd and access part #2
[09:15] <twb> MerijnB: you could also try the `alternate' CD
[09:15] <wyld> arrenlex: can I change a primary partition to a logical one?
[09:15] <sya> man, i get pingout like every hour, is there any scripts or app i can use to keep my connection alive?
[09:15] <twb> wyld: no
[09:15] <SurfnKid> is there a way to modify my wireless mac address
[09:15] <sya> like to ping my connection every minute
[09:15] <arrenlex> wyld: I don't think you can directly... you could always make a logical partition of the same size and use dd, though.
[09:16] <twb> wyld: at least, not without a little fiddling.
[09:16] <wyld> twb: ok, good thing I din't try then
[09:16] <Vorbote> Acain: What you need is to access the BIOS and set the CD reader as first boot device
[09:16] <SurfnKid> does macchanger work on wireless or just wired
[09:16] <wyld> arrenlex: dd being...
[09:16] <Vorbote> Acain: you could do it with grun but that byzantine... :-)
[09:16] <MerijnB> twb, i'd just like to try the live cd without installing (yet)
[09:16] <arrenlex> wyld: dd does block-by-block copies of something to something else.
[09:16] <twb> wyld: when you install Ubuntu, it should offer to `just use my disk however you like.'
[09:16] <antmazO> any luck
[09:16] <twb> MerijnB: I don't know about that; sorry.
[09:17] <MerijnB> tx
[09:17] <Vorbote> s/grun/grub/, s/tat/that's/ (its 3:16am here ;-)
[09:17] <arrenlex> wyld: The simplest use is like a copy command. dd if=file.jpg of=file2.jpg
[09:17] <arrenlex> wyld: There are of course more advanced uses.
[09:17] <trinkolade> Merijn, there should be a safemode available at the screen with the boot options
[09:17] <Acain> vorbote: i can boot from the cd - i can't see my 2nd part from the bootcd
[09:17] <wyld> twb: I need to keep two partitions
[09:17] <arrenlex> wyld: Like dd if=/dev/sda of=abackupfile
[09:17] <arrenlex> wyld: And dd if=abackupfile of=/dev/sda
[09:17] <arrenlex> wyld: and dd if=floppyimage.img of=/dev/fda
[09:17] <twb> wyld: what I would do, then, is fire up gparted, delete all the partitiosn except the two you want to keep, and *then* run the installer
[09:17] <wyld> arrenlex: you're scaring this poor noob
[09:17] <Vorbote> Acain: can you see the partition with fdisk/cfdisk/parted/?
[09:17] <arrenlex> wyld: and what you want: dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sda4
[09:17] <twb> wyld: it should offer to `use free space as you see fit'
[09:18] <MerijnB> trinkolade: safemode didn't help
[09:18] <arrenlex> wyld: those commands all boil down to "block copy something to something else".
[09:18] <wyld> ohhhhhh, i think i see
[09:18] <antmazO> ive used ubuntu before but forgot how to install all the packages for video codecs music and dvd playback whats the wiki page again
[09:18] <arrenlex> wyld: This something and something else can be a file on the disk, a partition image, etc.
[09:18] <eQualizer> twb: So, do you have any url or some other tip how to connect to a X session?
[09:18] <Acain> vorbote: is that a command to be typed in the terminal screen? (/me not a linux guy)
[09:18] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | antmazO
[09:18] <ubotu> antmazO: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:19] <Vorbote> Acain: yes, those are partitioners, that you should have available in the rescue cd.
[09:19] <arrenlex> wyld: where if is input file and of is output file.
[09:19] <twb> eQualizer: not easily, no
[09:19] <trinkolade> Merijn, mhmm...I don't remember the other options there so I can't really help you but you might be able to change the specifications to those that you need
[09:20] <eQualizer> twb: Okay...
[09:20] <Vorbote> Acain: it's a bit surprising that you can't see the partition from the booting cd. If you are booting linux that is.
[09:20] <antmazO> thanks
[09:20] <MerijnB> I've found some threads on the forums, but it's always on changing the config of an installed ubuntu
[09:20] <wyld> twb: I have a primary windows partition, a primary media partition, an unknown thingie (looks like a backup thingamajjiger that toshiba put on there) and i need to install ubuntu on the rest
[09:20] <MerijnB> don't have a disk where to install yet
[09:20] <MerijnB> just like to try the live cd
[09:20] <MerijnB> vga=normal doesn't seem to work btw
[09:21] <wyld> twb: the only problem is that i can only have 4 primary partitions
[09:21] <Acain> vorbote: i can see the linux and hp recovery parts
[09:21] <arrenlex> wyld: Why are you trying to convert one of those to a logical partition? You have three; you're allowed four.
[09:21] <wyld> i thought that i needed one for / and one for swap
[09:21] <dmc_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:21] <Mathew> On the first ubuntu screen with the Live CD and Alternate CD i can't go down to make any other selections or press F1 to F6 the Live CD will timeout and start but the install is freezing?
[09:21] <arrenlex> wyld: Make a new logical partition. Inside it, have / and swap.
[09:21] <Acain> maybe i need to do some thing like mount? but then again, i don't need to see ntfs part in ubuntu, i need to boot from a cd >to> the ntfs
[09:21] <dmc_> (gedit:6557): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:21] <wyld> that is what i did
[09:21] <dmc_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:21] <trinkolade> Merijn, press F4 and choose one of the options that might fit mostly
[09:22] <arrenlex> wyld: And?
[09:22] <wyld> arrenlex: i'm thinking
[09:22] <MerijnB> trying
[09:22] <Vorbote> Acain: Aha. And you want to boot from linux? If using cfdisk, mark that partition as bootable and reboot. If you installed a bootloader when installing linux, it'll boot up in it automagically
[09:22] <MerijnB> I can only choose one :)
[09:22] <MerijnB> and it doesn't mention refresh rate
[09:23] <MerijnB> booting
[09:23] <pramz> I have a wierd issue. I have a machine in a VMWare VM. This virtual machine has 2 NIcs. eth0: <IP_ADDRESS> and eth1: <IP_ADDRESS>. When I send packets to a certain IP, occasionally I get a response from the wrong nic. FOr example, I try to ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> and ssh is filtered, I get a response Connection Refused. Checking the logs, I see the response was through eth0 and not 1.
[09:23] <pramz> My question is, why is it that when I specify an IP it goes to the wrong NIC
[09:23] <wyld> arrenlex: with this extended partitions, will it be almost the same as five primary partitions
[09:24] <trinkolade> Merijn, if it doesn't help press F6 and deactivate the options splash and quiet by deleting them
[09:24] <trinkolade> Merijn, then boot again and watch the output
[09:24] <arrenlex> wyld: How do you figure that?
[09:24] <wyld> i dunno
[09:24] <arrenlex> wyld: Let's review.
[09:24] <MerijnB> ok, it's still booting from prev. try
[09:24] <wyld> yes lets
[09:24] <arrenlex> wyld: An extended partition is a primary partition.
[09:24] <wyld> is it
[09:24] <arrenlex> wyld: Inside an extended partition are "logical partitions". Linux can live on one of those. Windows cannot.
[09:24] <wyld> ohhh
[09:25] <arrenlex> wyld: You can have as many logical partitions as you like. Have 1284 if you like.
[09:25] <arrenlex> wyld: Primary partitions, only four.
[09:25] <Acain> vorbote: i want to boot from a cd - the cd boots - and expects to "hook on" to windows - for this it needs to see the ntfs part - its not seeing the ntfs part - i think the grub has hidden it
[09:25] <antmazO> i know what a good idea is to all the sudden stop using linux because you powersupply fried on your 2nd computer and then go back to windows haha
[09:25] <arrenlex> wyld: Ergo, you should end up with windows, media, toshiba and extended as your primaries, and / and swap as logics in your extended.
[09:25] <arrenlex> wyld: Make sense?
[09:26] <wyld> arrenlex: my god, the light turns on
[09:26] <wyld> i love you
[09:26] <Nameeater> how can I reset a session in edgy?
[09:26] <arrenlex> Don't drink, thanks.
[09:26] <arrenlex> Although it is my birthday today. I am 18.
[09:27] <Nameeater> because I always end up with the session window coming up
[09:27] <wyld> wow, i turned 18 im may
[09:27] <wyld> didn't know there were any people my age
[09:27] <arrenlex> Old people don't use Linux.
[09:27] <antmazO> drinking and working wtih linux it fun apt get beer.good
[09:27] <Acain> oh.. get off the net Arranlex - not a way to spend this day - greetings anyway!
[09:27] <Vorbote> Acain: that seems more a bug in your cd than anything... Can you try a different rescue thingy? (Chk distrowatch for alternatives)
[09:27] <wyld> lol
[09:27] <arrenlex> (very fast)
[09:28] <Acain> how old is old Arrenlex?
[09:28] <wyld> arrenlex: I hope that you enjoy your birthday, and that you are not in the continetal us
[09:29] <arrenlex> wyld: I have, and I'm not. Why?
[09:29] <wyld> arrenlex: cause if you are, it's wayyy late
[09:29] <arrenlex> 1:29 AM xD
[09:29] <wyld> 12 30 here
[09:29] <arrenlex> Speaking of which, I should go sleep.
[09:29] <arrenlex> Good night, all! Good luck sorting out your partitions, wyld. Don't mess with dd.
[09:29] <wyld> yeah
[09:30] <wyld> i won't
[09:30] <linux_user400354> where does ubuntu log ssh attempts? there is not a /var/log/secure
[09:30] <wyld> not for a while
[09:31] <linux_user400354> where does ubuntu log ssh attempts? there is not a /var/log/secure
[09:33] <linux_user400354> anyone know about the ubuntu they use?
[09:33] <boogy> hello
[09:33] <linux_user400354> boogy: hi
[09:34] <trinkolade> Merijn, did it help?
[09:35] <trumpetmic> hi
[09:35] <MerijnB> nope
[09:35] <MerijnB> you didn't receive private message?
[09:35] <trinkolade> Merijn, no
[09:35] <NineTeen67Comet> help .. any zope/plone users in the room that've installed via apt-get (aptitude)? .. I've been racking my brain and the plone room trying to figure out where/how to get plone-site running (it says it's running fine vie /etc/init.d/zone2.9 restart) .. help?
[09:35] <MerijnB> too bad, some chaos here, would have been easier :)
[09:35] <trumpetmic> anyone: is there an easy way to get my second hard drive to display?
[09:36] <MerijnB> i tried without quiet and splash
[09:36] <MerijnB> it booted in text mode, but now is out of sync again
[09:36] <trinkolade> Merijn, and what does it say?
[09:36] <MerijnB> do I need to look for anything special in output?
[09:36] <NineTeen67Comet> trumpetmic: mount it in /media/ and it'll show up .. edit fstab accordingly ..
[09:36] <MerijnB> because it ends up out of sync, and I see a *lot* before that
[09:36] <trinkolade> Merijn, where did it stopped and what did it say?
[09:36] <trumpetmic> NineTeen67Comet: thanks.  I'll try that
[09:36] <ashzilla> Hey, where to for Compiz advice/help?
[09:37] <trinkolade> Merijn, the last few entries
[09:37] <NineTeen67Comet> trumpetmic: I mount a load of stuff that way and they all pop up on my desktop when mounted ..
[09:37] <MerijnB> hmm, is there any way to see them good?
[09:37] <ashzilla> !compiz
[09:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:37] <NineTeen67Comet> ashzilla: #ubuntu-xgl ..
[09:37] <MerijnB> because when the panel goes out of sync it's gone
[09:38] <Mathew> On the first ubuntu screen with the Live CD and Alternate CD i can't go down to make any other selections or press F1 to F6 the Live CD will timeout and start but the install is freezing?
[09:39] <trinkolade> Mathew, do you have a USB-Keyboard?
[09:39] <Mathew> yeah
[09:39] <trinkolade> Merijn, no, you have to remeber it somehow, try to remember the last message
[09:40] <MerijnB> nice challenge :)
[09:40] <seamus7> What are the standard drivers for video cards that installs with Edgy?
[09:40] <trinkolade> Mathew, you have to enable USB Legacy Support in your BIOS-Settings or better enable everything with USB in name
[09:41] <trinkolade> seamus7, the xorg-drivers
[09:41] <seamus7> trinkolade: do they generally support 3d?
[09:41] <trinkolade> seamus7, no, not really. You have to install the propritary drivers
[09:41] <seamus7> trinkolade: are you familiar with ati drivers?
[09:42] <Jani> hey, anyone about who can help a noob?
[09:42] <bun-bun> can anyone recommend a good tool for compressing wav files to flac?
[09:42] <trinkolade> seamus7, yes, somehow but there are good howtos on the internet. Try them first
[09:42] <trinkolade> bun-bun, ogg vorbis tools
[09:43] <Jani> anybody have any idea how to solve this? http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1415/screenshotka3.png
[09:43] <trinkolade> bun-bun, or are they called vorbis-tools?
[09:43] <MerijnB> trinkolade: last line was 'starting gnome display manager' but I don't think that will help
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> bun-bun, the encoder in the 'flac' package should be just fine :)
[09:43] <seamus7> trinkolade: yeah i had my system using fglrx 8.28.8 but now the repository lists them at version 8.32.5 and my system is freezing with them .... my card isn't supported by the Radeon open source drivers so I'm at a loss as to what to do next
[09:43] <trinkolade> Merijn, no, but it isn't that bad, press f6 again and tell me what options there are
[09:44] <MerijnB> you mean f6 at boot menu, or when booted?
[09:44] <Vorbote> bun-bun: I agree with nolimitsoya. FLAC is the best
[09:45] <Jani> help please
[09:45] <Jani> anyone
[09:45] <trinkolade> Merijn, at boot menu
[09:46] <trinkolade> seamus7, you might need to reload the fglrx-module and restart X
[09:46] <MerijnB> boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=1048576 root/dev/ram rw quiet splash --
[09:47] <seamus7> trinkolade: how do i reload the fglrx-module?
[09:48] <eviltwin> hi
[09:48] <eviltwin> I'm in need of some rather urgent help to do with my partitions
[09:48] <trinkolade> seamus7, modprobe -r fglrx and then modprobe fglrx again
[09:48] <eviltwin> can someone give me a hand moving and resizing my main partition?
[09:50] <trinkolade> eviltwin, first you have to resize the filesystem within the partition and after that you can resize the partition by deleting it and recreating it again
[09:50] <dnite> gah. can anyone help me out?? I have an MX900 bluetooth mouse. It works fine with ubuntu. usually. but for some reason, WHILE i was using it. the mouse just stopped moving and I can't get it to reconnect. hcitool scan will see the mouse. i can tell hcitool to cc to the mouse.. but it doesn't change anything. the bluetooth mouse just stopped working. anyone know why this would happen? i've tried restarting the bluetooth service and rebo
[09:50] <dnite> oting the computer.
[09:50] <trinkolade> Merijn, try adding fb=false to the option
[09:50] <trinkolade> s
[09:51] <MerijnB> tx, trying
[09:51] <eviltwin> trinkolade, as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong) you can only do that in order to expand the partition into space that is after it, I want to expand it into space that is before it
[09:51] <MerijnB> just curious, what stands fb for?
[09:52] <trinkolade> Merijn, framebuffer
[09:52] <MerijnB> tx
[09:52] <Vorbote> eviltwin: not possible, at least not invented yet.
[09:52] <trinkolade> eviltwin, yes, that's right. It makes it much more complicated
[09:53] <eviltwin> trinkolade, is there a way of doing it?
[09:53] <eviltwin> if I recall partition magic was able to MOVE the partition... could be wrong though
[09:53] <MerijnB> trinkolade, same problem
[09:53] <MerijnB> eviltwin, partition magic can indeed do  this
[09:54] <godtvisk1n> Hi, I'm trying to get my Logitech Quickcam Fusion to work. I installed the UVC drivers from linux-uvc.berlios.de, and then plugged in the device. dmesg says it is using the uvc drivers, but when I try to run camorama, it reports "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)" What can I do?
[09:54] <trinkolade> But it is a commercial software, isn't it?
[09:54] <MerijnB> yes
[09:54] <NineTeen67Comet> Little question on aptitude and apt-get .. does one know what the other has installed? .. say I install something with aptitude then fire up synaptic .. it doesn't see it so it doesn't know aptitude installed it?
[09:54] <Vorbote> Yes, partition magic can do it (I haven't used it, though)
[09:54] <eviltwin> MerijnB: Great, but partition magic refuses to run on vista (I dual boot RC1) and so I can't use it... any ideas?
[09:55] <MerijnB> bartpe cd?
[09:55] <trinkolade> yes theoretically it is possible but not with the tools like fdisk and mkfs iirc
[09:55] <eviltwin> never tried bartpe...
[09:55] <MerijnB> might be some work though
[09:55] <MerijnB> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[09:56] <firepol> hi, i cant find the network install ISO ( http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/edgy/ ) can someone please enlighten me?
[09:56] <waseem> are there any good flv players?
[09:56] <eviltwin> gah, I don't have an original windows disc to use :(
[09:56] <MerijnB> http://www.bootcd.us/BartPE_Plugin_Details/330/PartitionMagic-8-_-WinPE-Multiboot-CD-Rom.html
[09:57] <No1Viking> How do I change all settings in kmix (sound mixer in kde) to the default values? Anyone?
[09:57] <Vorbote> NineTeen67Comet: aptitude keeps track of some private data that allows it to do autoremoval suggestions. apt in ubuntu 6.6 has similar functionality in real-time. (Debian Sid, that is bleeding edge) has not enabled that functinality FWIW.
[09:57] <Acain|noob> i pressed e at the bootloader in ubuntu and this is what i have: root (hd0,0) | savedefault | makeactive | chainloader +1 - QUESTION: instead of executing chainloader +1, can i tell grub to boot from a cd at this step?
[09:57] <borg> is there like a special package that i can install that will make compiling stuff in ubuntu easier?
[09:57] <borg> anyone know which package gtk+-2.0.pc is contained in?
[09:57] <MerijnB> hwo bout http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[09:58] <MerijnB> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/index.shtml
[09:58] <MerijnB> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[09:58] <Jani> gah, can anyone please help me with upgrading from hoary hedgehog to edgy?
[09:59] <Vorbote> Acain|noob: if you want to boot from a different disk/cd with its own booting flag/bootloader chainloader is the way to go.
[09:59] <thefish> borg: try this: "sudo apt-get install apt-file" then "sudo apt-file update" then "apt-file search gtk+-2.0.pc"
[09:59] <eviltwin> MerijnB, gparted and gnuparted are no good, they can only expand the partition into space that is after it
[09:59] <eviltwin> which is not what I want
[09:59] <thefish> apt-file can tell you what package a certain file is in
[09:59] <eviltwin> :(
[09:59] <MerijnB> too bad
[10:00] <eviltwin> hmmm
[10:01] <Vorbote> borg: try searchinf for gtk+-2.0.pc in packages.ubuntu.com
[10:01] <MerijnB> eviltwin, try to get your hands on a windows xp cd
[10:01] <RememberPOL> Will fiesty include beryl standard?
[10:01] <borg> Vorbote, thefish: ok
[10:01] <MerijnB> trinkolade, using fb=false gives same problem
[10:01] <eviltwin> MerijnB, impossible under my current circumstance...
[10:02] <eviltwin> I'll guess that I'm gonna have to adapt my approach a bit
[10:02] <trinkolade> Merijn, mhmm, try as option vga=771
[10:02] <eviltwin> copy all my stuff to another computer and reinstall this one with a fresh copy of ubuntu
[10:02] <eviltwin> I was thinking about switching to the i386 version anyways
[10:02] <MerijnB> this one is nice too: http://www.regnow.com/softsell/nph-softsell.cgi?item=4864-20&affiliate=16087
[10:02] <MerijnB> afaik it boots from the cd itself
[10:03] <eviltwin> amd64 ubuntu just isn't quite finished enough
[10:04] <eviltwin> anyways, cheers for the suggestions... I'm off to go backup date :/
[10:04] <eviltwin> data*
[10:04] <eviltwin> cya
[10:04] <MerijnB> http://www.ranish.com/part/
[10:04] <MerijnB> too late :)
[10:04] <trinkolade> MerijnB, vga=771 as option, read this?
[10:04] <sc4ttrbrain> !libmtp
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <Forgott3n> does anyone know how to install an IRC Server... how do I do it?
[10:04] <MerijnB> i'm reading
[10:05] <MerijnB> trying now
[10:05] <MerijnB> I assume it doesn't matter _where_ I put it in the options line?
[10:05] <trinkolade> Forgott3n, with gathering information first. You should find lots of information trough google.com. It might lead to sucess
[10:06] <trinkolade> Merijn, you can add defoptions= so it is valid for every boot entry
[10:06] <Forgott3n> ok, thank you
[10:06] <MerijnB> I don't understand that
[10:06] <MerijnB> what is defoptions?
[10:07] <MerijnB> vga=771 didn't help
[10:08] <trinkolade> Merijn, option for the default entries that aren't alternative one. Put it on the line where splash and quite is
[10:08] <borg> eh what does this mean
[10:08] <borg> ./configure: 1393: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[10:09] <EvilMike> Hey. I've decided to finally switch my main computer from a strictly windows system to a dual boot with linux as my main OS and windows just kept there for games and a few other things. I bought a new hard drive to install it on, because I'm too afraid to repartition my windows drive. I've never set up a system to dual boot before so I'm a little worried I might mess something up.
[10:09] <borg> god i hate it when people's install scripts mess up cause of the way they coded it
[10:09] <EvilMike> I read all the documentation for installing the ubuntu distro, but I'm just paranoid by nature, so I thought I'd come here and ask if there's anything I should watch out for.
[10:09] <EvilMike> as in what's the easiest way I can destroy my computer
[10:09] <Erb_> Can someone please tell me what the default download action is for WM files?
[10:09] <jumbers> So why aren't Apache and PHP at the latest versions?
[10:09] <harrisony1> EvilMike, you going for dapper or edgy
[10:10] <EvilMike> edgy, unless there's some reason I shouldn't. I haven't used ubuntu before, most of my experience with linux was with the red hat distro, years ago.
[10:10] <MerijnB> trinkolade, I can get to a text console (ctrl-alt-f1)
[10:10] <MerijnB> is there any way I can change the refresh rate from there?
[10:11] <harrisony1> um...i dont think you should be worried
[10:11] <jumbers> Does anybody know?
[10:11] <EvilMike> alright, I'm just a very paranoid person
[10:11] <harrisony1> when you install grub should recognize windows on the other hdd and include that but just make sure when installing to install on ya 2nd hdd
[10:12] <EvilMike> yeah. That would show up as hda2 right?
[10:12] <trinkolade> Merijn, yes, it should somehow. Is there a program called hwinfo?
[10:12] <MerijnB> which dir?
[10:13] <Erb_> Can someone please tell me what the default download action is for WM files?
[10:13] <harrisony1> EvilMike, either hda2 or sda2
[10:13] <trinkolade> Merijn, type 'sudo -s' and then whereis hwinfo
[10:13] <atarinox>  can somebody help with a flash-plugin question in firefox?
[10:13] <MerijnB> hwinfo not there
[10:13] <harrisony1> atarinox, yep
[10:14] <atarinox> i'm trying to install the flashplugin9 beta, but now when i  check my about:plugins page it shows up that i have 7 and 9  installed
[10:14] <trinkolade> Merijn, and sudo whereis hwinfo?
[10:14] <harrisony1> hmmm
[10:14] <harrisony1> did you install in the repositries or download and move atarinox
[10:14] <MerijnB> it outputs "hwinfo:"
[10:14] <atarinox> harrisony1: download and mv
[10:14] <atarinox> the flashbeta 9 file
[10:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Onkay .. I aptitude installed plone-site .. it handed my a username-password-port selection .. I assume I selected my old faithful info, but it just isn't starting up meaning I probibly gave it a strange port and didn't notice .. I tried aptitude reinstall plone-site zope2.9 .. and .. it just re-installed it .. no passwd/port user dialogue like last time .. how can I get it to re-install from scratch?
[10:16] <harrisony1> atarinox, delete it and make sure it isnt installed via the repository and then check it and see what it says and then try move it and restart ff
[10:16] <trinkolade> Merijn, okay, then it isn't included. What does dmesg outputs on the few last lines?
[10:16] <MerijnB> some entries on bluetooth
[10:16] <MenZa> !flash9 | atarinox
[10:16] <ubotu> atarinox: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[10:16] <atarinox> harrisony1: what dir should it be in?
[10:16] <MerijnB> last +- 8 lines
[10:16] <jumbers> I'd really like to know why Apache2 and PHP are outdated
[10:16] <harrisony1> um....
[10:17] <atarinox> /.mozilla/plugins?
[10:17] <harrisony1> jumbers, check the bug reports for thoes packages on launchpad
[10:17] <borg> ./configure: 1393: Syntax error: Bad fd number  <---- what does that mean? i went to the configure thing at line 1394 and all it says is echo "$VIDEODEV2H doesn't exist"
[10:17] <jumbers> Do you have a link?
[10:17] <harrisony1> atarinox, yep  i think
[10:17] <jumbers> Because I have no idea what launchpad is
[10:17] <harrisony1> http://launchpad.net
[10:17] <harrisony1> the ubuntu bug tracker
[10:18] <trinkolade> Merijn, nothing that sounds like graphic stuff? Look also at the sylog-output /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages
[10:18] <harrisony1> launchpad is the bug,version control (i think) and groups manager so when you got a problem or a bug thats were you head
[10:19] <harrisony1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaunchPad:Launchpad is a collection of services that assist in software development. Ubuntu uses it to manage its specifications, bugs, and other assorted things. LaunchpadHowTo describes how we do so.
[10:19] <jumbers> I see nothing about Apache2
[10:19] <harrisony1> jumbers, you want apache 2.0 or 2.2
[10:19] <jumbers> 2.2
[10:19] <harrisony1> jumbers, 1 sec
[10:20] <jumbers> Ok
[10:20] <MerijnB> i've got something halfway messages
[10:20] <MerijnB> on video, but not much
[10:20] <trinkolade> Merijn, could you upload them somewhere?
[10:20] <MerijnB> somw vesafb messages
[10:20] <harrisony1> atarinox, look in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins and then search synaptic for flashplayer-nonfree and uninstall/delete them then download and install again
[10:21] <MerijnB> let me try
[10:21] <MerijnB> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bosma/messages
[10:22] <MerijnB> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bosma/syslog
[10:22] <harrisony1> jumbers, deb http://johan.kiviniemi.name/ubuntu edgy apache
[10:22] <borg> ./configure: 1393: Syntax error: Bad fd number  <---- what does that mean? i went to the configure thing at line 1393 and all it says is echo "$VIDEODEV2H doesn't exist"
[10:22] <harrisony1> add that to your sources list
[10:22] <MerijnB> dmesg output aswel?
[10:22] <trinkolade> Merijn, if you want to, yes
[10:23] <MerijnB> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bosma/dmesg.txt
[10:25] <harrisony1> jumbers, did that repository help
[10:26] <trinkolade> Merijn, and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[10:26] <MerijnB> one moment
[10:26] <MerijnB> can't find it
[10:27] <MerijnB> oops
[10:27] <MerijnB> typo
[10:27] <MerijnB> my mistake
[10:27] <jumbers> harrisony1: Yes, but what about PHP and MySQL?
[10:27] <harrisony1> php and mysql,hmmmmmm arnt they upto date
[10:28] <MerijnB> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bosma/Xorg.0.log
[10:28] <viller> how can I check what my default gateway is?
[10:28] <jumbers> No
[10:28] <jumbers> PHP 5 is behind and so is MySQL 5
[10:29] <mdious> viller:  ifconfig?
[10:29] <viller> mdious: can't find it there
[10:29] <viller> mdious: I only got ip and mask from ifconfig
[10:29] <MerijnB> interesting:
[10:29] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0): Ranges: V min: 56  V max: 76 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 83 kHz, PixClock max 170 MHz
[10:29] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0): Using detected DDC timings
[10:29] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0):  HorizSync 30-83
[10:29] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0):  VertRefresh 56-76
[10:29] <jumbers> Latest PHP 5 is 5.2.0 and MySQL 5.0.27 and the repos for Ubuntu are 5.1.6 and 5.0.24 respectively
[10:29] <MerijnB> that seems wrong
[10:29] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0): Monitor name: DELL 2007FP
[10:29] <MerijnB> is good though
[10:29] <firepol> somebody can point me to the ubuntu netinst ISO image? i cant find it, please help me, i know it exists somewhere on the web but i cant find it
[10:30] <harrisony1> net install i dont think you can
[10:30] <mdious> viller: just type route
[10:30] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
[10:30] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0): #0: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60  vid: 32897
[10:30] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0): #1: hsize: 1600  vsize 1200  refresh: 60  vid: 16553
[10:30] <MerijnB> (II) I810(0): #2: hsize: 1152  vsize 864  refresh: 75  vid: 20337
[10:30] <mdious> it will show the routing table which will have the default gateway
[10:31] <MerijnB> is there any way to choose from one of these at boot menu?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> !paste | MerijnB
[10:31] <ubotu> MerijnB: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:31] <MerijnB> sorry, i'll stop
[10:32] <k_vv> hello...I'm trying to remove libgcc but it says that it will also remove apache2-common ,apache2-mpm-worker etc etc...how can I remove only gcclib ??
[10:32] <MerijnB> tried private messaging with trinkolade, but it didn't work...
[10:33] <viller> mdious: the ip address in ifconfig and route are different
[10:33] <viller> mdious: and the gateway is just a "*"?
[10:33] <firepol> harrysony1: i have it at home...
[10:33] <RichardC> since 6.10, GRUB has been able to boot into windows xp for me.  however, i've only tried it after starting GRUB with NTLDR, as explained in this tutorial: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html.  up until now, this has been the ONLY way to dual boot windows xp and linux on my machine.  is it safe to assume that GRUB will still be able to boot XP if i replace ntldr with it?
[10:33] <harrisony1> hmmm didnt know you could get a copy for at least edgy or dapper
[10:34] <RichardC> meaning, i use GRUB as my default bootloader?
[10:34] <firepol> why is it so difficult to find a netininst iso iage that i already downloaded at home?
[10:34] <firepol> im at work now i try to find it but no way<
[10:34] <harrisony1> for edgy? firepol
[10:34] <firepol> for edgy, yep
[10:34] <kane77> how can I bind a key to some program?
[10:34] <firepol> i installed a linux box a few days ago
[10:34] <Vorbote> RichardC: for at least a decade
[10:35] <trinkolade> Merijn, paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere please
[10:35] <firepol> harrysony1: maybe it wast for edgy, but it installed me edgy
[10:35] <viller> where can I check my gateway and name servers?
[10:35] <RichardC> no. like i said, GRUB could not boot windows xp on my machine up until the version that comes with 6.10
[10:35] <harrisony1> firepol, ill go look
[10:35] <firepol> so iu guess its for edgy or it has a smart way to get the last version?
[10:36] <RichardC> since it does work now, however, after starting GRUB through NTLDR, can i assume it will work with NTLDR completely out of the picture?
[10:36] <MerijnB> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bosma/xorg.conf
[10:36] <viller>  where can I check my gateway and name servers?
[10:36] <mdious> viller: are you on ppp?
[10:36] <mdious> if so then that is normal
[10:36] <viller> mdious: dhcp
[10:37] <mdious> and you will find the ip in route in ifconfig...anyway i'm off, good luck...well i hope i have given you the right info, best check with someone else
[10:37] <xipietotec> how do I change the default media player that firefox opens videos in? It opens youtube and such just fine, and it'll open links to video in mplayer just fine, but it tries to open certain types of embedded media in totem which just doesn't work
[10:37] <mdious> viller:  all the best
[10:37] <viller>  where can I check my gateway and name servers?
[10:37] <johnstar> does anyone know how to check for the existence of a website in terminal?
[10:37] <als> ping
[10:37] <viller> I tried route but "*" isn't a normal gateway isn't it
[10:38] <als> johnstar: try pinging
[10:38] <RichardC> Vorbote: i guess all i need to know is if NTLDR changes the mapping of my drives or does anything that would effect GRUB.  If not, then replacing NTLDR will not be a problem.
[10:38] <zdogde> hi
[10:38] <trinkolade> Merijn, try `sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange`
[10:39] <MerijnB> nothing(!)
[10:39] <MerijnB> i prolly did a typo
[10:39] <MerijnB> without grep, last line
[10:39] <viller>  where can I check my gateway and name servers?
[10:39] <MerijnB> monitorrange: 30-83, 56-76
[10:39] <MerijnB> 76 is wrong
[10:39] <MerijnB> should be 60
[10:39] <MerijnB> (i think)
[10:40] <firepol> harrysony: maybe i got the answer... i think the "network install" i used is the "server install"
[10:40] <firepol> the server install downloads packages from the network
[10:40] <zdogde> i have kubuntu 6.10 installed,  and a DELL Inspiron 6400. My DVD-Drive gets recognized, but i cant enable dma... I tried it with hdparm -d1 but it always says: "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted". I also tried to add "piix" and "ide-core" to my modules  file, but this also didn't helped. May anyone help me? :)
[10:40] <harrisony1> viller, gksu network-admin
[10:40] <johnstar> I wrote a script to download strongbad email but I want it to know when to stop looping
[10:40] <harrisony1> firepol,  it might be hmmm
[10:40] <firepol> harrysony1: then it asks what i want, e.g. ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop etc
[10:41] <firepol> but ill verify at home
[10:41] <firepol> harrysonY: if i find a netinst iso ill report it here coz im really getting crazy to find that cd
[10:41] <viller> harrisony1: I have DHCP so the fields are empty in network-admin
[10:41] <viller>  where can I check my gateway and name servers? On CLI
[10:41] <Vorbote> RichardC: no. What ntldr does is to load up the grub loader wherever partition you have installed it in. Rather than trying to replace ntldr, which f'ing widnowss makes a poing to depend on to the extent of wishing to gove BillG alead indigestion, I rather install grub to the primary partition where i dumped linux and make sure that partitio has the boot flag, using cfdisk or pater.
[10:42] <harrisony1> cli..errr i dont know
[10:42] <Yodude> hello guys
[10:42] <johnstar> is there a ping command that returns a simple y/n? for scripting?
[10:43] <Yodude> what's happening at the Greece server it's been down for like 12 hours it should be up by now if it's only maintenance
[10:43] <Yodude> it's ruining my ubuntu download
[10:43] <Vorbote> RichardC: s/parter/parted/ (still 4:43am ub these partd :-)
[10:43] <RichardC> thanks
[10:44] <Acain> i gave up - i reformatted my hdd - will install the whole thing again.. max 2 hrs.. ;(
[10:44] <trinkolade> Merijn, try to add to the monitor section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf the values above with the options HorizSync and VertRefresh and restart X with startx
[10:44] <trinkolade> Merijn, don't reboot
[10:44] <Yodude> hello?
[10:44] <MerijnB> how can I stop the running instance of X?
[10:44] <RichardC> Vorbote: another question.  using dd to create an image of the first 512 bytes on my hdd would backup the mbr, correct?
[10:44] <Yodude> does anybody know when the Greece server is gonna be up and running again?\
[10:45] <trinkolade> Merijn, kill -15 X
[10:45] <viller>  where can I check my gateway and name servers?
[10:45] <MerijnB> arguments must be process or jobs IDs
[10:45] <trinkolade> man signal
[10:45] <zdogde> does anybody know how i can enable DMA for my DVD-Drive? hdparm does not work and adding some modules to my modules file doesnt work too. :(
[10:45] <trinkolade> sry, Merijn, killall -15 X should work
[10:46] <MerijnB> strange, it says "no process killed"
[10:46] <MerijnB> like it isn't running
[10:46] <Yodude> help please!
[10:46] <trinkolade> Merijn, if not, try 'ps -C X'
[10:46] <Vorbote> RichardC: s/parter/parted/ (still 4:43am in these here  these partd :-) Yes, backing up the first 512 bytes ot he partition/disk will save the booting partition.
[10:46] <MerijnB> when I switch to console 7 though, my panel goes out of sync (like it's running there)
[10:46] <RichardC> thanks
[10:46] <MerijnB> nothing with ps
[10:47] <MerijnB> Xorg seems to be running on tty7 (is this possible)?
[10:47] <MerijnB> might be talking BS right no
[10:47] <MerijnB> w
[10:47] <Yodude> does anybody knnow about any problem at the Greece server?????
[10:48] <trinkolade> Merijn, there should be a number called pid, use it as argument for kill -15
[10:48] <MerijnB> just did that
[10:48] <MerijnB> but tty7 is still out of range (panel range)
[10:49] <johnstar> I want to learn bash does anyone know a good book? ( I got a Linux book from the discount book store for a 1$ but its old)
[10:49] <Vorbote> MerijnB: you are correct. tty7 is taken over by X
[10:49] <MerijnB> I think it's gone now
[10:49] <trinkolade> Merijn, then try startx now from tty1
[10:49] <MerijnB> i need some help with editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf though
[10:50] <trinkolade> Merijn, after you edit the .conf
[10:50] <MerijnB> (never got the hang of vi :| )
[10:50] <catalytic> hi all
[10:50] <trinkolade> Merijn, use nano instead
[10:50] <MerijnB> tx
[10:50] <catalytic> is it possible to have xubuntu running on a raid drive, and then have xp running on another IDE?
[10:50] <MerijnB> trinkolade, sorry, what is it I should add in the xorg.conf file exactly?
[10:51] <Vorbote> MerijnB: then try emacs. nano is for windows refugees. ;-)
[10:51] <trinkolade> there is a section called "Monitor"
[10:51] <MerijnB> vorbote, I'm afraid at this point I _am_ a windows refugee
[10:51] <MerijnB> trinkolade, yes
[10:51] <trinkolade> Merijn, found?
[10:51] <MerijnB> yes
[10:51] <Vorbote> MerijnB: nop, you are a windows exile.
[10:52] <f-bert> hello, after a update of my ubuntu edgy i could not login into gnome. i only see a scree in one color with a gray box in the upper left corner
[10:52] <MerijnB> is there much difference? :p
[10:52] <harrisony1> !sysinfo
[10:52] <ubotu> sysinfo: Simple GTK program that shows some UNIX/Linux system information. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 512 kB
[10:52] <catalytic> what is sda in /dev?
[10:52] <harrisony1> catalytic, hard drive
[10:52] <catalytic> on secondary?
[10:52] <f-bert> scree = my screen
[10:53] <catalytic> the sda drive is now somehow my ubuntu driv
[10:53] <trinkolade> Merijn, add HorizSync on a new line  between Section and EndSection, and after it on the same line the rate range
[10:53] <viller> where can I find my default gateway?
[10:53] <catalytic> and the other drive i inserted is hdb
[10:53] <trinkolade> HorizSync    30-60, Merijn
[10:53] <catalytic> ifconfig viller?
[10:54] <catalytic> how can ubuntu boot ok if it is on sda, yet grub points to hd0,0 for the ubuntu install?
[10:54] <ELpH95o> whazup folks
[10:54] <trinkolade> then in a new line VertRefresh    value-value, Merijn
[10:54] <ELpH95o> anyone able to get billard-gl working in ubuntu?
[10:55] <ELpH95o> it like freezes and takes me to the gdm screen
[10:55] <Merijn> why is trinkolade talking to me
[10:55] <Merijn> I asked him nothing
[10:55] <MerijnB> he is talking to me
[10:55] <zak> catalytic: just different naming conventions
[10:55] <MerijnB>  :)
[10:55] <ELpH95o> on the game site it said that it has probs with ATI cards
[10:55] <camos> hello! i have some problems getting a lan connection between my ubuntu-comp. and win xp.. can anyone help?
[10:55] <Merijn> oh
[10:55] <Merijn> nvm then
[10:55] <ELpH95o> what video cards do work well in linux?
[10:55] <viller> Where can I find my gateway and name servers?
[10:55] <MerijnB> trinkolade, you know what values for refresh rate?
[10:55] <viller> Where can I find my gateway and name servers?
[10:55] <viller> Where can I find my gateway and name servers?
[10:55] <trinkolade> Merijn, oh, aren't you the same person? I'm sorry
[10:55] <MerijnB> lol
[10:55] <MerijnB> confusing
[10:56] <viller> how can noone know? I'm not the only one having an internet connection here
[10:56] <DarthLappy> !patience | viller
[10:56] <ubotu> viller: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:56] <trinkolade> MerijnB, the one that you found out by using ddcprobe
[10:56] <MerijnB> this is one of the first times I couldn't use my name in an irc channel because already used :)
[10:56] <Merijn> well tough :P
[10:56] <Vorbote> catalytic: it is just a matter of interpretation. Grun has it own view of the the hardware, even if through the BIOS
[10:56] <ELpH95o> another thing ive noticed that some things lag in ubuntu like menus and stuff
[10:56] <ELpH95o> and i have a p4 1.something ghz
[10:57] <f-bert> can anybody help me? i could not login into gnome also after a clean install from live cd
[10:57] <MerijnB> got it
[10:57] <catalytic> ok, im reading up on how linux hard drive and partitions work
[10:57] <Merijn> afk again, good luck with ubuntu
[10:57] <ELpH95o> what you mean good luck with ubuntu?
[10:57] <MerijnB> tx!
[10:57] <MerijnB> trinkolade, ok done
[10:58] <trinkolade> MerijnB, then save it and run startx
[10:58] <MerijnB> does ^X save?
[10:58] <viller> patience? I normally get answers a lot quicker
[10:58] <viller> this is not a difficult question
[10:58] <ELpH95o> who here has a stable ubuntu box which all the packages work?
[10:58] <ELpH95o> heh
[10:59] <DarthLappy> viller: Maybe people are busy then?
[10:59] <trinkolade> Merijn, it asks you if it shall save or not when you use ^w
[10:59] <trinkolade> MerijnB, arghs, I meant you
[10:59] <huffy> !gcc
[10:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:59] <DarthLappy> viller: Now do you need to know where your gateway and nameservers are stored, or how to find them so that you can input them?
[10:59] <MerijnB> I think Merijn knows now :)
[10:59] <MerijnB> saved, starting X
[11:00] <viller> DarthLappy: I want to input them to network-admin
[11:00] <MerijnB> hmm, removeing lockfile first :)
[11:00] <MerijnB> fatal server error: no screens found
[11:00] <DarthLappy> viller: What sort of internet connection do you have?
[11:00] <MerijnB> hmmm, error parsing the config file
[11:00] <MerijnB> i f_cked up I guess
[11:01] <viller> DarthLappy: DHCP
[11:01] <MerijnB> trinkolade, tx so far, I have to do something else now (bummer!)
[11:01] <camos> hello! i have some problems getting a lan connection between my ubuntu-comp. and win xp.. can anyone help? problem is, that i cant browse ubuntu-computers harddrives from my windows-computer - what should i do?
[11:01] <viller> DarthLappy: I just want a static IP
[11:01] <MerijnB> I'll try more later
[11:01] <trinkolade> Merijn, no, wait
[11:01] <MerijnB> o
[11:01] <MerijnB> k
[11:01] <trinkolade> arghs...
[11:01] <MerijnB> quick :)
[11:02] <MerijnB> I'll have to make a phone call, might be less responsive :0
[11:02] <trinkolade> MerijnB, add -- :1 to startx
[11:02] <karakara> yahbuntew
[11:02] <DarthLappy> viller: Okay, well if your network interface is already working with DHCP, you can look it /etc/resolv.conf for the nameserver(s), and take a look at the 'route' command for the gateway.
[11:02] <camos> everything else works in connection between them
[11:02] <MerijnB> do I need to put the values between "" in xorg.conf?
[11:03] <viller> DarthLappy: the route command gives me "*" as gateway
[11:03] <MerijnB> startx --:1 gives same error
[11:03] <trinkolade> Merijn, no, not as far as I know. It would also print the line if it really found a problem on this line
[11:03] <DarthLappy> viller: It should be for the default destination.
[11:03] <MerijnB> wait it does!
[11:03] <trinkolade> MerijnB, does it talk about screen 0 or screen1?
[11:03] <MerijnB> HoriSync is wrong
[11:04] <trinkolade> HoriZ
[11:04] <MerijnB> (english not native language) tx!
[11:04] <MerijnB> is it HorizSync?
[11:04] <trinkolade> mine neither ;D, MerijnB
[11:04] <viller> DarthLappy: "speedtouch.lan" :D
[11:04] <kane77> how can I only download the package (not install it) from command line?
[11:04] <trinkolade> yes, MerijnB
[11:04] <DarthLappy> viller: Try route -n
[11:05] <MerijnB> dmn, still out of range!
[11:05] <ELpH95o> xmms just crashed when i did doublesize WTF
[11:05] <ELpH95o> is edgy supposed to be stable or something?
[11:05] <catalytic> can someone please explain how grub uses this notation?
[11:05] <catalytic>  root (hd0,1)
[11:06] <MerijnB> vertrefresh is now 57-67
[11:06] <f-bert> i also could not start gnome programms if i use fluxbox
[11:06] <MerijnB> should that be 56-60 ?
[11:06] <catalytic> that means mount the 2nd primary partion on the first hard drive as root ?
[11:06] <f-bert> it looks for me like a bug
[11:06] <viller> DarthLappy: thanks I now have two addresses, one of them is just zeros
[11:06] <trinkolade> MerijnB, don't know, it depends on the capabilities of your monitor
[11:06] <MerijnB> it's an lcd screen (means refresh rate of 60hZ)
[11:06] <DarthLappy> viller: I'm guessing the one of all zeroes isn't the right one ^-^
[11:07] <MerijnB> dunno if that is horiz or vertical
[11:07] <catalytic> if i have windows installed on partition1 of /dev/hdb1
[11:07] <catalytic> what will i use in grub?
[11:07] <kane77> I'm trying to install on a computer without internet connection....
[11:07] <kane77> how can I only download the package (not install it) from command line +  download all the dependencies?
[11:07] <catalytic> to tell it where root is?
[11:07] <viller> DarthLappy: but the other one's Destination is all zeroes :D
[11:07] <viller> DarthLappy: also it's mask is all zeroes
[11:07] <catalytic> there is a switch kane77
[11:08] <catalytic> man apt-get
[11:08] <DarthLappy> viller: Oh right, that's the default, sorry. I didn't actually run the command myself :)
[11:08] <ELpH95o> how do i use patches?
[11:08] <f-bert> where can i go with my problem?
[11:08] <ELpH95o> like i found a patch to fix the xmms doublesize problem
[11:08] <MerijnB> trying now with 56-60
[11:08] <MerijnB> nope, out of sync
[11:09] <huffy> does anyone have problems installing ubuntu with ATI card?
[11:09] <ELpH95o> (btw im a linux newbie)
[11:09] <ELpH95o> huffy:i have trouble with some games with a old ati card
[11:10] <huffy> ive got brand new laptop and it wont install
[11:10] <viller> DarthLappy: so I use the zeroes?
[11:10] <trinkolade> MerijnB, try `ddcprobe | grep modelines`
[11:10] <huffy> the screen just goes blank and i have to restart
[11:10] <DarthLappy> viller: The line with the destination of all zeroes has some normal address in the gateway field?
[11:10] <MerijnB> btw, x seems to quit by itself after a while
[11:11] <ELpH95o> I want Ubuntu to be a bit more stable :)
[11:11] <ELpH95o> he
[11:11] <viller> DarthLappy: yes
[11:11] <ELpH95o> well actually it's not the os it's the programs and code
[11:11] <DarthLappy> viller: That'd be your gateway then.
[11:11] <viller> DarthLappy: ok thank you
[11:11] <DarthLappy> viller: No probs.
[11:11] <ELpH95o> how do i apply  a .diff file patch?
[11:11] <trinkolade> ELpH95o, man diff
[11:12] <DarthLappy> trinkolade: And man patch?
[11:12] <viller> DarthLappy: should I now restart networking somehow (I changed stuff in network-admin)?
[11:12] <MerijnB> trinkolade, modelines does not appear in the output of ddcprobe
[11:12] <MerijnB> there are a lot of lines which start with mode: :)
[11:12] <DarthLappy> viller: I don't know the right way to do that in Ubuntu ^_^
[11:12] <trinkolade> DarthLappy, ye :D
[11:12] <DarthLappy> viller: But yes, you should.
[11:12] <kane77> catalytic, and where are they stored??
[11:13] <trinkolade> MerijnB, and modeline without the s?
[11:13] <MerijnB> nothing
[11:14] <MerijnB> www.xs4all.nl/~bosma/ddcprobe.txt
[11:14] <ELpH95o> trinkolade: i'm a newbie.i have short attention span
[11:14] <h0ndaracer2> where can i get Mandriva Flash at
[11:14] <h0ndaracer2> for free
[11:14] <DarthLappy> ELpH95o: Do you have the source code for what you are trying to patch available?
[11:14] <ELpH95o> i dont know how to get sources off the apt repositories
[11:14] <catalytic> where are what stored?
[11:14] <catalytic> kane77
[11:14] <catalytic> where are what stored?
[11:15] <viller> DarthLappy: the restart gave me errors but google comes up when I start firefox :)
[11:15] <ELpH95o> the package managing stuff is wierd..like someone took some acid o0r something lol
[11:15] <DarthLappy> viller: What sort of errors?
[11:15] <kane77> catalytic, sorry... the packages downloaded with apt-get -d option
[11:15] <syock> I can`t print Japanese PDF. They`ll display fine in evince, thanks to xpdf-japanese, but I can`t solve the ps/gs problem
[11:16] <viller> DarthLappy: who cares if it works :D
[11:16] <DarthLappy> viller: True.
[11:17] <ELpH95o> i still dont know how to apply the xmms patch
[11:17] <DarthLappy> ELpH95o: patch -p0 < patchfile.diff
[11:18] <DarthLappy> ELpH95o: But you'll need the source ^_^
[11:18] <ELpH95o> didnt work
[11:18] <DarthLappy> ELpH95o: Elaborate?
[11:18] <trinkolade> MerijnB, I need go to bed, I'm really tired. You might need to use modelines for your monitor which force X to use the mode that it desscribes, there should be a wiki-entry for that.
[11:18] <trinkolade> !wiki
[11:18] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[11:18] <ELpH95o> im trying to fix the xmms doublesize bug
[11:18] <MerijnB> I'll loo kfor that
[11:18] <MerijnB> thanks for all yoru help so far!
[11:18] <DarthLappy> ELpH95o: How didn't it work?
[11:18] <MerijnB> sleep tight
[11:18] <MerijnB> thight
[11:18] <trinkolade> !tell wiki MerijnB
[11:18] <ELpH95o> it like crashes when i try to doublesize xmms and like eim trying to patch it while stoned
[11:19] <Zaggynl> I put my usb hdd in fstab, but it doesn't mount at boot
[11:19] <ELpH95o> i did patch -p0 < xmms.diff
[11:19] <melon> ok.. excuse my stupidity if it's shown.. i'm kinda new to ubuntu (still) - anyway.. just bought a new phone.. plugs into my pc via usb - comes with drivers (for windows) - ubuntu doesn't popup with anything when i plug the phone in.. should it? my Q though.. is "what the hell do i do to get it working"?
[11:19] <Zaggynl> if I do a manual sudo mount -a it gets mounted, why?
[11:19] <ELpH95o> --------------------------
[11:19] <ELpH95o> |--- xmms-1.2.10+cvs20060429/xmms/util.c.orig   2006-11-05 12:29:59.000000000 +0800
[11:19] <ELpH95o> |+++ xmms-1.2.10+cvs20060429/xmms/util.c        2006-11-05 12:30:01.000000000 +0800
[11:19] <ELpH95o> there were n o instructions
[11:19] <trinkolade> MerijnB, thx, gn8, wiki.ubuntu.com for more information
[11:19] <ELpH95o> do i have to do like alot of reading in linux to get a good studio running?
[11:20] <ELpH95o> that'z my goal in linux to have a good os for music production/recording
[11:20] <h0ndaracer2> what are good sites that have big list of linux distros and downloads of the os
[11:20] <MerijnB> elph950, I don't know of good linux apps for audio recording
[11:20] <ELpH95o> ubuntu has the ap pz
[11:20] <ELpH95o> i know of the good appz
[11:20] <DarthLappy> MerijnB: Audacity \o/
[11:20] <ELpH95o> i just need to get them all running in a stable environment :)
[11:20] <ELpH95o> heheh
[11:20] <MerijnB> darthlappy, audacity is a nice try :)
[11:21] <ELpH95o> i like rosegarden and csound and jack
[11:21] <ELpH95o> i like how all of the audio stuff interconnects and shit
[11:22] <ELpH95o> one question though was Edgy meant to be a stable release?
[11:22] <DarthLappy> !language | ELpH95o
[11:22] <ubotu> ELpH95o: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:22] <ELpH95o> if it was meant to be stable ...
[11:22] <trinkolade> ELpH95o, I've never used it but ardour.org might be useful
[11:22] <ELpH95o> yah i know about ardour
[11:22] <ELpH95o> i just cant get them all working in ubuntu
[11:23] <ELpH95o> i read about them in 'zines though
[11:24] <leafw> any people using apple laptops here
[11:24] <qsdfghjk> hello guys, does anyone know what program do i use (and, how) to open split rar archives ? (eg x.r01 -> x.r34)
[11:24] <leafw> can't get second display to work properly (remains inside the laptop screen, scrollable)
[11:24] <ELpH95o> ive noticed alot of bugs in ubuntu edgy
[11:24] <zak> ELpH95o: don't know if it'll be of any use, or if i should say it in #ubuntu ;), but there is a distro called DeMuDi that's specifically tailored to audio stuff... but it's probably not the best everyday desktop distro too
[11:24] <delta> Does there exist a list of packages accepted in edgy-proposed somewhere?
[11:25] <ELpH95o> not lookin for a everyday desktop distro
[11:25] <ELpH95o> i use my computer ONLY for music production
[11:25] <ELpH95o> and the only net stuff i do is irc and a few web sitez
[11:25] <ELpH95o> i hate using websites
[11:25] <kane77> how do I make xubuntu auto mount my usbdisk??
[11:25] <Zaggynl> I want to know too
[11:26] <Zaggynl> I put mine in fstab, but it doesn't get mounted at boot
[11:26] <ELpH95o> something that will just turn my pc into a music production computer
[11:26] <zak> you might want to google for demudi then
[11:26] <Zaggynl> a manual 'sudo mount -a' does
[11:26] <analVortex[omg] > hi
[11:26] <MerijnB> is there any linux audio app which can use vst plugins?
[11:26] <ELpH95o> rosegarden
[11:26] <analVortex[omg] > guys can i use... windows programsw with ubuntu ?
[11:26] <ELpH95o> i hear can do that
[11:26] <analVortex[omg] > 32 bit programs?
[11:26] <ELpH95o> there's stuff that's even better than commercial vst's available for linux
[11:26] <MerijnB> I'm looking on rosegarden website
[11:26] <ELpH95o> yah
[11:26] <zak> analVortex[omg] : some/many... look for "wine"
[11:26] <ELpH95o> rosegarden
[11:27] <kane77> analVortex[omg] , well you can.. not all though
[11:27] <analVortex[omg] > what is wine ?
[11:27] <ELpH95o> the windows emulator thingie
[11:27] <analVortex[omg] > i mean .. the Drivers i use?
[11:27] <DarthLappy> ELpH95o: Wine Is Not an Emulator :D
[11:27] <zak> analVortex[omg] : google it... there's some stuff in the ubuntu wiki about it, but dunno of the link
[11:27] <kane77> analVortex[omg] , wine is not emulator (thats what WINE stands for)
[11:28] <analVortex[omg] > well i need 2 know if i can run 1. Radeon ati drivers 2. internet 3. DX 9.0c
[11:28] <zak> uh, no idea about drivers
[11:28] <ELpH95o> like i could hardly care much bout gamez one of my friendz i works with has a setup done by someone and its made just for music production
[11:28] <ELpH95o> and it's fast and rocks
[11:28] <zak> DX9 - i highly doubt it [though never know :)]
[11:28] <DarthLappy> analVortex[omg] : Radeon drivers will be a Linux thing. Internet is a Linux thing. Why would you need DX?
[11:28] <ELpH95o> perfect for recording dj sets,etc.
[11:28] <zak> and define "internet"?
[11:28] <analVortex[omg] > dx = for games
[11:29] <DarthLappy> analVortex[omg] : Try something like Cedega for gaming.
[11:29] <incorrect> other than writing a little script,  is there a way to tar xzvf *.tar.gz ?
[11:29] <DarthLappy> incorrect: Just like that.
[11:29] <analVortex[omg] > what best operation system? for gaming/internet?
[11:29] <analVortex[omg] > i dont like xp..
[11:29] <incorrect> err
[11:29] <zak> analVortex[omg] : gaming - XP. internet - anything.
[11:29] <klerfayt> how do I create one rar of part1.rar, part2.rar, part3.rar and part4.rar?
[11:29] <harrisony1> !benchmarking
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about benchmarking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <ELpH95o> analVortex[omg]  all os's are good
[11:30] <harrisony1> !benchmark
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about benchmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <incorrect> i just get loads of errors
[11:30] <zak> analVortex[omg] : it's a sad truth, but most/many high end games only run on windows
[11:30] <ELpH95o> when they work
[11:30] <ELpH95o> ive lost faith in computer recording
[11:30] <ELpH95o> the amiga made it so easy
[11:30] <Zaggynl> analVortex[omg] , Windows XP, and later on Windows Vista, not much game devs make games for Linux
[11:30] <analVortex[omg] > and what the stable system every made?
[11:30] <DarthLappy> incorrect: Such as?
[11:31] <Zaggynl> analVortex[omg] , ..what?
[11:31] <incorrect> Not found in archive
[11:31] <incorrect> tar:  file: Not found in archive
[11:31] <analVortex[omg] > what should i download.. for    internet/and programing ?
[11:31] <zak> analVortex[omg] : any linux distro almost is great for internet and programming
[11:32] <analVortex[omg] > ubuntu is linux?
[11:32] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : no its windows
[11:32] <zak> analVortex[omg] : yes
[11:32] <harrisony1> are there any decent benchmarking progs for linux
[11:32] <incorrect> harrisony1: crashme
[11:32] <analVortex[omg] > so what  easiest linux distro for use?
[11:32] <analVortex[omg] > ubuntu ?
[11:32] <harrisony1> !crashme
[11:32] <ubotu> crashme: Stress tests operating system stability. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-6 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[11:32] <harrisony1> analVortex[omg] , yep
[11:33] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : depends on your nature, and what you want from it
[11:33] <DarthLappy> incorrect: I don't see why that would be an error related to tar zxvf *.tar.gz .  Maybe something is wrong with one of the archives?
[11:33] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1938954 ?
[11:33] <incorrect> DarthLappy: do them one at a time its fine
[11:33] <analVortex[omg] > i want it for..  movies, internet, working, progaming
[11:34] <DarthLappy> incorrect: Hmm, well I'm not sure then :) I don't have a bunch to test with.
[11:34] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : err well linux isn't great at movies really,
[11:34] <DarthLappy> analVortex[omg] : What language do you program in?
[11:34] <analVortex[omg] > but where i can find drivers for ubuntu ?
[11:34] <harrisony1> analVortex[omg] , for movies?
[11:34] <analVortex[omg] > i mean for card,sound
[11:34] <analVortex[omg] > etc
[11:34] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : drivers for what
[11:34] <analVortex[omg] > motherboard
[11:34] <DarthLappy> analVortex[omg] : They should all install by default.
[11:34] <analVortex[omg] > but default is not best
[11:34] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : what hardware do you have
[11:35] <holycow> analVortex[omg, all drivers are built in.  if they don't come with the distro they don't exist
[11:35] <analVortex[omg] > amd  2800 xp,  1 gb ddr , ati radeon 9800 pro
[11:35] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : you will be fine
[11:35] <DarthLappy> analVortex[omg] : It's Linux.  Linux isn't Windows.  Make your own drivers if you don't like it.
[11:35] <incorrect> that is very common
[11:35] <holycow> with the exception of ait and nvidia drivers, but those are packaged for you too
[11:35] <analVortex[omg] > ubuntu is more stable then xp ?
[11:35] <analVortex[omg] > in security and all ?
[11:36] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : if you have a clean system ubuntu will install cleanly from the CD
[11:36] <zak> analVortex[omg] : definitely... xp is fairly damn insecure and unstable... you don't need to worry about viruses on linux
[11:36] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : depends on your perspective,  microsoft would disagree
[11:36] <analVortex[omg] > bill gates sux ;p
[11:37] <harrisony1> join the club
[11:37] <holycow> analVortex[omg] , why so many questios?
[11:37] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : even though i think you are trolling,  if you are serious, best way to learn anything is by doing,
[11:37] <holycow> its not like ubuntu costs you anything.  install it on something
[11:37] <incorrect> there is no try, do
[11:37] <analVortex[omg] > dude wtf,, i am damn serious i am downloading ubuntu
[11:37] <analVortex[omg] > 6.10 atm
[11:37] <holycow> analVortex[omg] , just make sure you research that your hardware is supported ahead of time
[11:37] <holycow> analVortex[omg] , cool :) welcome to ubuntu
[11:37] <analVortex[omg] > ;]
[11:38] <incorrect> with a name like analVortex[omg]  does anyone think he might not be trolling?
[11:38] <Zaggynl> The fun part about winxp is that an amoeba can use it, and every pc game works on it, but that's about it
[11:38] <analVortex[omg] > i dont know even how make dial up in ubutun
[11:38] <analVortex[omg] > l;ol
[11:38] <holycow> analVortex[omg] , the problem with the question 'is linux more stable than windows xp'  ... technically the answer is yes
[11:38] <holycow> the problem is that if you get a not too bright user they can screw up everything
[11:38] <incorrect> linux is not for everyone
[11:38] <DarthLappy> holycow: Or if you're a bright Windows user you can have a stable system :P
[11:39] <analVortex[omg] > i dont know how make dial up
[11:39] <analVortex[omg] > lol
[11:39] <analVortex[omg] > in linux
[11:39] <holycow> an operating system is a tool, a very very complicated tool and requires high degree of skill to properly use
[11:39] <incorrect> sorry what i mean is, unix systems are not for everyone
[11:39] <holycow> analVortex[omg] , unless you have a hardware modem forget it
[11:39] <holycow> its not going to work
[11:39] <analVortex[omg] > i have cable internet
[11:39] <stefg> quote: *Unix *is* user friendly, it's jaust picky about who its friends are
[11:39] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : i am willing to bet money you will be fine
[11:39] <analVortex[omg] > sb 5100 motorola
[11:40] <incorrect> analVortex[omg] : i doubt you have anything exciting
[11:40] <incorrect> the last computer i had issues with is a dell power edge 2950 with the megaraid SAS controller
[11:40] <incorrect> that hardware was so new at the time the driver was not great
[11:41] <incorrect> if you have a 2+ year old computer you are seriously unlikely to have any issues
[11:41] <analVortex[omg] > guys who saw jack ass 2
[11:41] <analVortex[omg] > ?
[11:41] <analVortex[omg] > lol
[11:41] <incorrect> what i mean by 2+ year old is when the technology first sat on the shelf, not when you bought it
[11:46] <albatrosW> Are other xubuntu users able to access HSBC bank Australia internet banking site?
[11:46] <albatrosW> http://www.hsbc.com.au/
[11:47] <holycow> works on gnome
[11:47] <DarthLappy> albatrosW: Works fine here.
[11:47] <albatrosW> thanks....
[11:48] <albatrosW> the actual log-in is in upper left hand corner of that site though
[11:48] <mgenov> hi everyone, i have problem with ubuntu and libc manual pages
[11:48] <albatrosW> it is the log-in that's the problem...
[11:48] <mgenov> matrix@matrix:~$ man 2 read
[11:48] <mgenov> No manual entry for read in section 2
[11:48] <mgenov> matrix@matrix:~$
[11:48] <mgenov> any ideas?
[11:49] <camos>
[11:49] <accept> How can I send files via the Irda port that comes with my laptop to my cellphone and PDA?
[11:50] <zak> nf5655cbm ygrfcgbfdhrftrdtvtyuyudesr <-- oh look, my nephew can type
[11:50] <accept> !ir
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <accept> !irda
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <accept> damn
[11:50] <borg> how do i execute "make" from bash directly?
[11:50] <borg> botxj@BGX12:~/Installed/fftv-0.8.3$ sudo bash /usr/bin/make install
[11:50] <borg> /usr/bin/make: /usr/bin/make: cannot execute binary file
[11:51] <DarthLappy> borg: Why can't you just sudo make install ?
[11:51] <accept> can someone help?
[11:51] <accept> Google says nothing
[11:51] <borg> DarthLappy, i'll explain that in a second
[11:52] <borg> DarthLappy, http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/09/19/bad-fd-number <--- that is why
[11:53] <anar> hi all
[11:53] <anar> what's dhcp server
[11:54] <mwe> borg: personally I dislike dash and did sudo ln -fns /bin/bash /bin/sh
[11:54] <accept> How can I send files to my cell phone and PDA with Ubuntu?
[11:54] <mwe> borg: that way I don't get stupid errors from dash either
[11:54] <borg> dash?
[11:54] <mwe> yes dash
[11:55] <mwe> borg: like the page you pointed to explains
[11:55] <peepus> hi
[11:55] <borg> mwe, ah
[11:55] <peepus> anyway able to offer me help here?
[11:55] <DarthLappy> !ask | peepus
[11:55] <ubotu> peepus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:56] <peepus> okey doke, having probs upgrading from hoary hedgehog to edgy
[11:56] <Theodor> Greetings.
[11:56] <Naik0> i need an vmw codec
[11:56] <Naik0> wmv*
[11:56] <peepus> getting this error: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1415/screenshotka3.png
[11:58] <peepus> any ideas?
[11:58] <Theodor> I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu on my laptop, any help please?
[11:58] <DarthLappy> peepus: Did you change your repositories to those of Edgy? Doesn't look like it.
[11:59] <SubMOA> can someone please tell me how to check my CPU temperature from the command line?
[11:59] <fromvega> Hello!
[11:59] <fromvega> I have a local network that connects to the internet through a linux gateway/proxy running Ubuntu/Iptalbes/Squid. The linux gateway is connected directly to an adsl router. I want to make an apache server in the internal network visible to the internet on port 7777. How should I do? I suppose I need to set iptables to redirect tcp requests on port 7777 to the specific machine, is it right?
[11:59] <Naik0> Where is mplayer located?
[12:00] <mwe> !info mplayer
[12:00] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[12:00] <peepus> DarthLappy: no, the guide doesn't mention too
[12:00] <Naik0> i got it installed but where is it installe
[12:00] <mwe> Naik0: the codecs?
[12:00] <peepus> what are the addresses for the edgy repositories?
[12:00] <Naik0> non the player
[12:00] <Naik0> no no
[12:00] <Naik0> the player
[12:01] <mwe> Naik0: what part of it?
[12:01] <mwe> Naik0: just the binary?
[12:01] <Naik0> i need to locate it, ive installed a plugin for mozilla
[12:01] <Naik0> yes
[12:01] <mwe> Naik0: /usr/bin/
[12:01] <DarthLappy> peepus: Oh? Well I think you need to change your repos to edgy ones and then dist-upgrade, or something along those lines?
[12:01] <rpereira> peepus: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy
[12:01] <peepus> ok i'll reboot into ubuntu and give it a shot
[12:01] <peepus> thanks
[12:02] <Theodor> Guys, what should I do install Ubuntu on my laptop? It seems that it's not compatible with my hardware. I tried to install it on my desktop, and it worked fine "The install that is", but each time I try on my laptop, it just refuses to work.
[12:02] <mwe> !upgrade
[12:02] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:02] <SubMOA> i had the same problem theodor
[12:02] <SubMOA> i didn't want the headache, so I've just put it off
[12:02] <Theodor> hehe.
[12:02] <SubMOA> waiting for a Lenovo notebook
[12:03] <Theodor> I'm dying to make it work ;p
[12:03] <Theodor> I've been waiting for soo long.
[12:03] <Theodor> Month++
[12:03] <Theodor> Do you know what's the problem exactly?
[12:03] <Theodor> and if there is a way to fix it?
[12:03] <SubMOA> i'm very new, though, so my advice is not sage, but if it doesn't work well from the live CD, you are going to have TONS of headaches
[12:03] <Zambezi> Anyone here using Live on XBOX360?
[12:04] <Theodor> I downloaded the DVD version *Sighs*
[12:04] <SubMOA> theodor, I'm pretty sure if you have interent (that is, the internet works right out of the box, per sai) you can USUALLY get (although I'm not sure how easily) most of the ddriver's you would need
[12:04] <Theodor> Any of the helpers in here?
[12:04] <SubMOA> theodor, haha, tough break... you can get the CD one easily enough, though, no?
[12:04] <Theodor> The problem is not with drivers, I mean it's not installing at all ...
[12:05] <SubMOA> theodor, oh, holy moley
[12:05] <Theodor> It's not available in my country
[12:05] <SubMOA> *runs away*
[12:05] <SubMOA> you can't download it from an internet sight?
[12:05] <Theodor> I have an 8 kbps connection ... waht do you think ?
[12:06] <Enselic> I have a DHCP problem, Windows XP can grab an IP with no problems, but Ubuntu Edgy fails (this is from a cable modem). What could this be?
[12:06] <SubMOA> Do you have a lot of coffee?
[12:06] <Naik0> where should i put my mplayer codecs?
[12:06] <SubMOA> theodor, just kidding
[12:06] <Theodor> *Sighs*
[12:06] <Theodor> I really want it to work man
[12:06] <SubMOA> submoa, have you checked the BIOS?
[12:06] <Theodor> are you talking with yourself ;p ?
[12:06] <SubMOA> haha, maybe
[12:07] <SubMOA> also, let me check the web... I thought I saw something where you could get a CD by mail for free
[12:08] <mwe> Enselic: misconfigured interface maybe?
[12:09] <mwe> Naik0: /usr/lib/win32 is where the w32codecs package intalls them
[12:10] <raphink> hi guys
[12:10] <raphink> does anyone have an idea how to keep the quotes in an input variable in bash? That is, if $1, $2, $@ etc. contain quotes, they are removed but I need to keep them
[12:10] <k_vv> how to remove libgcc1 without removing other packages ??
[12:11] <mwe> raphink: escape them
[12:11] <raphink> mwe: this it not an option, as it breaks reverse compatibility
[12:11] <mwe> raphink: then you can't
[12:11] <SubMOA> theodor, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[12:11] <raphink> no set option or so?
[12:11] <mwe> raphink: readline interprets the quotes
[12:11] <SubMOA> Theodor, also, http://free.thelinuxstore.ca/
[12:11] <k_vv> anybody ?
[12:12] <SubMOA> not quick, but I bet you'll get them
[12:12] <raphink> :(
[12:12] <Enselic> mwe: I have some experience with networking, could it be some obscure problem? It is working at another DCHCP server (a router at my home)
[12:12] <raphink> alright I'll have to do it another way then
[12:12] <raphink> thanks anyway mwe :=)
[12:12] <raphink> :)
[12:13] <dac_> can someone help me?
[12:13] <mwe> Enselic: hmm. the same interface is working with another dhcp server?
[12:13] <mwe> Enselic: paste /etc/network/interfaces on paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll see if I can spot anything
[12:13] <Enselic> mwe: yep
[12:14] <dac_> Hi, can someone help me?
[12:14] <DarthLappy> !ask | dac_
[12:14] <ubotu> dac_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:14] <dac_> ok :D
[12:14] <mwe> Enselic: go ahead and paste it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org. then paste the URL to your paste here
[12:15] <Enselic> mwe: sure
[12:15] <tiredbones> I'm getting ready to install  ubuntu on my daughter's  inspiron  1501, but in checking with google i notice many people are having problems with recognizing thier hard drive.  has this been fix with edge? What iso image should I down load?
[12:15] <dac_> im getting problems when i press CTRL+ALT+F1 and try to login
[12:16] <DarthLappy> dac_: Such as?
[12:16] <dac_> the console just ask for the login name
[12:16] <mwe> tiredbones: use the live cd iso
[12:16] <tiredbones> thanks mwe.
[12:17] <mwe> tiredbones: then go ahead and boot it. come back if it doesn't recognize the hdd
[12:18] <DarthLappy> dac_: Err, isn't that what it's meant to do? :)
[12:18] <mwe> dac_: what did you expect? it sounds normal
[12:18] <SubMOA> theodor, also, i did some math, waiting (I think) 2.7 years to download is probably worse than getting it shipped!
[12:19] <mwe> SubMOA: ;)
[12:19] <mwe> SubMOA: where do you live?
[12:19] <dac_> but i cant type the pass cause it asks only for the login name
[12:19] <mwe> dac_: you can but it's not ecchoed
[12:20] <Enselic> mwe:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39137/    (transcibed)
[12:20] <mwe> dac_: it looks like it's not getting accepted but it is. just type the pw and then return
[12:20] <Martiini> how do I force aptitude dist-upgrade ... even if it would break my system
[12:20] <dac_> its like "Ubuntu 6.10 dac tty1, dac login: dac ... Ubuntu 6.10 dac tty1, dac login: dac ...Ubuntu 6.10 dac tty1, dac login: dac
[12:20] <mwe> Enselic: which one is your interface?
[12:21] <dac_> it returns to the login: and i type, and it returns, you know?
[12:21] <Enselic> mwe: eth0
[12:21] <mwe> Enselic: it looks broken. let me try fixing it
[12:21] <Enselic> mwe: ok
[12:22] <mwe> Enselic: remove lines 6 to 8. please back up the file first though
[12:23] <quagmire> hi
[12:23] <mwe> Enselic: then try sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 and see if it works
[12:23] <Enselic> mwe: I think I have tried without those, thing is, in the network settings the static IP is saved (they are inactive when you have DHCP from the combobox)
[12:23] <Enselic> mwe: i.e. I have tried without those lines
[12:23] <hheee> help i can connect to my wireless router in windows with wep and in linux without encryption, but i cant connect in linux using wep
[12:24] <mwe> Enselic: please try what I suggested. then don't mess with network settings afterwards
[12:24] <Enselic> mwe: ill give it a shot       i will disconnect from here to try, be back in a few minutes
[12:25] <tiredbones> mwe,  is the live cd the same as the alternate? could not find a download with the word "live" in the name.
[12:25] <zOap> does anyone know how I can make windows appear in 0,0/NORTH_EAST postion in xfce? I asked in xubuntu but there is no people around...
[12:25] <|markie|> how can i change my resolution of my screen ?
[12:25] <levander> How can I verify that I have all the dependencies installed correctly for the ubuntu-desktop package?
[12:25] <mwe> tiredbones: it's not. if you don't mind the somewhat more simple interface you can use the alternate cd though
[12:25] <hheee> i can connect to my wireless router in windows with wep and in linux without encryption, but i cant connect in linux using wep!! wtf!
[12:26] <jeanjean> How can I see the error msg for my X server when he crashed and restart ?
[12:26] <mwe> tiredbones: it's also more robut IMO
[12:26] <mwe> hheee: you can if you configure it right ;)
[12:26] <rpereira> jeanjean: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:27] <jeanjean> rpereira, thx
[12:27] <stefg> !wpa | hheee
[12:27] <ubotu> hheee: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:27] <mwe> hheee: add a line wireless-key YOURENCRYPTEDKEY to the section for your wifi card in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:28] <rpereira> jeanjean: You're welcome.... Now we have a new Log View Interface: System->Admin->System Log
[12:28] <hheee> my /etc/netwrok/interfaces have been commented out to work with network-manager
[12:28] <hheee> shd i uncomment them?
[12:29] <mwe> hheee: I don't know network manager very well. I prefer the old way of configuring it
[12:29] <dac_> When I press CTRL+ALT+F1, i get the login screen but when i type my login name it came back asking the login name again and again!
[12:29] <mwe> dac_: you don't get to the password prompt?
[12:29] <dac_> no
[12:29] <Draco> Hi there, can anyone give me a hand, new installation of ubuntu, ive downloaded all the codecs as far as I know I get startup sounds but no sound from dvd ?
[12:29] <mwe> odd
[12:29] <dac_> it came back asking the login name
[12:30] <levander> When I try to open the users-admin app, I get: "The configuration could not be loaded" "You are not allowed access to the system configuration"
[12:30] <stefg> dac_: you haven't defined a default shell... or it's a bug in relation to replacing bash with dash (?) in edgy
[12:30] <levander> Do I have to add myself to a user group?  I think I remember reading that somewhere.
[12:30] <mwe> you have to blindtype your password though. nothing is ecchoed, not even a *. but I guess you don't even get to the prompt
[12:31] <viller> when I go to a website that displays my IP it gives me a different IP than ifconfig. Is that normal?
[12:31] <Draco> can anyone help me with a sound problem please, I get startup sounds but nothing else
[12:31] <mwe> viller: ifconfig shows your local IP
[12:32] <karakara> viller, if you are behind a router, then yes
[12:32] <Enselic`> mwe: Still doesn't work :/
[12:32] <mwe> viller: the web page shows the public one of the router
[12:32] <mwe> Enselic: if you look at /etc/network interfaces, are those lines gone now?
[12:32] <viller> if I want to make a static IP which one should I use?
[12:32] <Enselic`> mwe yup
[12:32] <mwe> Enselic`: odd
[12:32] <viller> I'd like port forward a game's port
[12:32] <Enselic`> mwe Yeah :)
[12:32] <mwe> Enselic`: doesn't sudo dhclient eth0 work either?
[12:33] <dac_> I cant because it asks for the login and if I type my pw it appears writed
[12:34] <mwe> viller: use any IP. just make sure you configure it to use the one you forward to
[12:34] <Enselic`> mwe: nope, it    gives me  DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67      but all those timeout
[12:34] <sharperguy> how do I get my two samba shares to mount on boot?
[12:35] <sharperguy> They used to en Dapper but not Edgy
[12:35] <dac_> stefg what could i do?
[12:36] <mwe> Enselic`: I'm not sure what's up
[12:36] <Enselic`> mwe: ok, thanks anyway for your time
[12:36] <mwe> Enselic`: you are not using the wifi card? I see two entries for that
[12:36] <Draco> can someone help me with a sound problem please
[12:37] <Enselic`> mwe: nope, eth0 is the "normal"
[12:37] <mwe> hmm
[12:37] <Enselic`> mwe: The absolutely strangest part of this is that it works at home, but not in my friends cable modem
[12:37] <Enselic`> mwe: while it works for him on Ubuntu XP
[12:38] <Enselic`> mwe: A DHCP server should not care about the OS right? Could it even figure out what os that requests?
[12:39] <mwe> Enselic`: right
[12:39] <mwe> Enselic`: it's a network protocol. OS independent
[12:40] <mwe> Enselic`: it's not a proper DHCP server if it doesn't respond to the broadcast
[12:40] <Draco> any suggestions as to why I would get startup sounds to work but nothing else ?
[12:40] <firepol> I dont remember who I asked before i couldnt find the netboot image, now i found it: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[12:41] <phatlip> hi guys, i get this error after running the install from the live CD:
[12:41] <phatlip> cannot access tty; closing job
[12:41] <phatlip> when restarting to complete install
[12:42] <firepol> the problem (ubuntu guys) is that the netboot image is not advertized enough. i spent half an hour to search for it and gave up. hopefully i had the url saved in my bookmarks at home (im at home now)
[12:42] <mwe> Draco: you should propably try to catch crimsun but I don't think he's around right now
[12:42] <phatlip> its edgy 6.10 i386 on an amd64 3000+ with 2gb of ram on an 80gb sata drive.
[12:43] <Draco> lol mwe only one person in the sound department then ?
[12:43] <mwe> Draco: he's the best
[12:43] <PoLL> there is a netboot image for 6.10 ?
[12:44] <Draco> its so silly I installed the first time everything worked fine I reinstalled coz i made a booboo and now I ge tno dvd sound
[12:44] <viller> ubuntu has all ports closed in default?
[12:44] <firepol> PoLL, yes there is, the link i gave before
[12:44] <flossgeek> viller: yes
[12:44] <PoLL> 2 weeks ago i searched my ass off but found none
[12:44] <viller> flossgeek: how can I open a port?
[12:44] <viller> flossgeek: or two :P
[12:44] <mwe> Draco: try running alsamixer and play with it. what are you running that you're expecting sound from? maybe esd has excluded the application you're trying to use
[12:44] <PoLL> thx 4 the link
[12:45] <firepol> PoLL, same for me. i found it by lucky
[12:45] <firepol> by luck
[12:45] <firepol> thatr0s why im reporting here that the netboot image is not advertized enough
[12:45] <flossgeek> viller: you could install firestarter a GUI for IPTables to do that I thinks
[12:45] <firepol> i couldnt find using the search function in ubuntu.com
[12:45] <Draco> mwe ive tried vlc and gxine to play movie files, i get the video but no sound
[12:45] <viller> flossgeek: I don't want to install more clutter :(
[12:45] <mwe> um firestarter can block access, not provide it
[12:45] <viller> flossgeek: I'll just read stuff about iptables
[12:46] <firepol> PoLL, asd my blog is quite indexed ill write a post there, so who will google around will find it
[12:46] <flossgeek> viller: in that case you can do it through the terminal, you will have to find an iptables guide plenty of them
[12:46] <mwe> openening port means have something listening on it
[12:46] <mwe> if nothing is listening it's "closed2
[12:46] <PoLL> very good!
[12:47] <SubMOA> mwe, sorry for the delay!! Japan
[12:47] <SubMOA> mwe, youself?
[12:48] <Draco> mwe alsa mixer gives me three choices of devices: ensonic audiopca (alsa mixer) ; sblive 5.1 (alsa mixer) ; Sigmatel (oss mixer)
[12:48] <mwe> SubMOA: oh. I don't know the shipment times to Japan
[12:48] <apokryphos> ubotu: jp
[12:48] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[12:50] <SubMOA> mwe, shipment times?
[12:50] <SubMOA> mwe, oOo, I think that was for Theodor, who seems to not be here anymore
[12:50] <viller> after dealing with iptables, should I restart networking?
[12:50] <QwertyM> does Wine come by default in the 6.06 CD ?
[12:51] <viller> QwertyM: I don't think so
[12:51] <QwertyM> okay, thanks viller
[12:51] <viller> I'm not sure but I'm running 6.06 and don't have wine installed :)
[12:51] <viller> and I haven't uninstalled it either
[12:52] <apokryphos> !version
[12:52] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[12:52] <adas> hi all
[12:52] <accept> How do I sync my Windows Mobile PDA on Ubuntu?
[12:52] <adas> jest ktos z polski ?
[12:52] <FirstStrike> Umm
[12:52] <FirstStrike> accept: There's an application for that, but it's a real pain in the behind.
[12:53] <FirstStrike> Let me see if I can find it..
[12:53] <adas> JEST KTOS Z POLSKI EJKA GOSCIE ??
[12:53] <QwertyM> viller, I guess not too, I installed it on edgy actually. Was asking cuz I got to run some windows programs in a friend's place, and he has 6.06 :)
[12:53] <apokryphos> !english
[12:53] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:53] <FirstStrike> !english | adas
[12:53] <ubotu> adas: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:53] <accept> FirstStrike: ok
[12:53] <apokryphos> adas: and no caps, please.
[12:53] <adas> sorry only polish  :(
[12:53] <apokryphos> !pl | adas
[12:53] <ubotu> adas: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:53] <FirstStrike> accept: synce
[12:53] <adas> no caps ok
[12:53] <adas> :)
[12:54] <adas> yes pl
[12:54] <accept> FIirstStrike: is it in the repos?
[12:54] <adas> bye :)
[12:54] <FirstStrike> accept: sudo aptitude search synce
[12:54] <FirstStrike> accept: but yes, it is
[12:55] <accept> ok
[12:55] <FirstStrike> accept: http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce
[12:55] <accept> but I see here a thing only for KDE
[12:56] <accept> FirstStrike: Have you used it?
[12:57] <FirstStrike> accept: kde apps will run in gnome. you'll just have to install the kde-base so they'll run.
[12:57] <FirstStrike> yes, i used it..albeit a long time ago. i never got it to sync properly with my dell axim x50v.
[12:57] <kane77> how do I find out what graphic card is in the computer?
[12:57] <FirstStrike> accept: please see here for more info, compatibility lists, etc: http://www.synce.org/index.php/SynCE-Wiki
[12:57] <accept> FirstStrike: Ok. My father needs it.
[12:58] <SubMOA> can anybody tell me how to import a new screensaver into Edgy?  I want the BSoD screensaver
[12:58] <FirstStrike> kane77: open the case up and look at it! :P
[12:58] <mitrovarr> I'm trying to do an alt-install and I'm getting an error about an unclean file system.  Is it possible for this sort of thing to wreck other partitions on the same drive?
[12:58] <kane77> FirstStrike, I cant... its sealed... and it's not mine computer...
[12:59] <mitrovarr> I really have no idea why I'm getting that error, because I'm formatting the drive I'm using as my root mount point.
[01:00] <mitrovarr> well, the partition
[01:00] <FirstStrike> mitrovarr: run a fsck on the drive
[01:00] <anto9us> kane77, in a command prompt type lshw and look for the section marked *-display
[01:01] <kane77> anto9us, thanx... I'll try that
[01:02] <phatlip> can anyone help me with an ubuntu install? i get to the LiveDesktop and try to install - i get through the live install - but on the restart (after removing the CD) i get: cannot access tty; and all i have is a cli where i can do nothing.
[01:02] <slacker_nl> lo
[01:02] <phatlip> please, i've just wiped my HDD out.
[01:02] <mitrovarr> FirstStrike:  Says it's clean.  Could it be messing with one of the other ext2fs filesystems on one of the drives?
[01:03] <viller> how can I test if a port is open?
[01:03] <slacker_nl> question regarding the boot CD: I/O error; error reading from boot cd: where can I find the logs of twhat is trying to do?
[01:03] <felixfoertsch> What does it mean if I get the message "mount: /dev/ is not a block device" from a loki installer?
[01:03] <slacker_nl> viller: netstat -an | grep portnumber
[01:04] <viller> slacker_nl: it gave me ok, does that mean it's closed?
[01:05] <anto9us> phatlip, as long as you haven't formatted you may recover your partitions by recreating them with the same size and type, also, I've found better success with the text based alternate install cd on some systems
[01:05] <slacker_nl> eh? if you want to check wheter port 80 is open, do netstat -an | grep 80 ; if you get output the port is open
[01:06] <kane77> are there drivers for integrated graphics ProSavage available?
[01:06] <slacker_nl> viller: otherwise paste to output to pastebin
[01:06] <viller> slacker_nl: sorry I read the wrong line
[01:06] <viller> slacker_nl: I don't get any output at all but the port is not in use currently either
[01:06] <viller> slaker_nl: should I get the output even when an app using the port is not running?
[01:07] <phatlip> anto9us: i'll try that
[01:07] <slacker_nl> viller: netstat -an will always give some output
[01:07] <slacker_nl> if there is nothing runnning on the port, the | grep portnumber will not return anything
[01:08] <viller> slacker_nl: well I don't have anything running
[01:08] <slacker_nl> if somehting is runnig, which opens the port, you wil get output
[01:08] <viller> but thanks anyway
[01:08] <slacker_nl> k
[01:08] <slacker_nl> what do you want to run anywayz
[01:08] <slacker_nl> ?
[01:09] <phatlip> there are bugposts about my error all over it seems...
[01:09] <slacker_nl> question regarding the boot CD: I/O error; error reading from boot cd: where can I find the logs of twhat is trying to do?
[01:09] <felixfoertsch> What does it mean if I get the message "mount: /dev/ is not a block device" from a loki installer?
[01:10] <kane77> how do I reconfigure xorg.conf??
[01:10] <DarthLappy> felixfoertsch: I get that too.
[01:10] <slacker_nl> kane77: dpkg-reconfige x-org-server
[01:10] <felixfoertsch> DarthLappy: Do your game installations work?
[01:10] <sharperguy> kane77, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:11] <DarthLappy> felixfoertsch: The game for me is UT2004, and the install hangs midway through.  It doesn't work if I try and play it either.
[01:11] <anto9us> slacker_nl, it's one of the other tty's I believe, press ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 etc to view them
[01:11] <sharperguy> slacker_nl, erm, two answers
[01:11] <slacker_nl> kane77: sharperguy has the correct answers
[01:11] <kane77> slacker_nl, sharperguy hope that it's what I wanted to do... :D
[01:11] <stefg> DarthLappy, felixfoertsch : Could it be that this has to do with the /etc/fstab in UUID-style in edgy?... There was a change from Dapper to Edgy in the way how the partitions are mounted...
[01:12] <slacker_nl> kane77: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep dpkg will give you the line you need
[01:12] <felixfoertsch> stefg: So what do you suggest?
[01:12] <DarthLappy> stefg: Hmm, maybe it could be.  Would changing them to the devices themselves hurt?
[01:12] <slacker_nl> anto9us: I'm trying to install ubuntu
[01:12] <slacker_nl> I cannot swith to another tty
[01:13] <anto9us> slacker_nl, yes you can, there's no permanent logging as such, just a tty output
[01:13] <stefg> DarthLappy, felixfoertsch : I'd backup the original fstab, rewrite it in  /dev/ -style and see if that changes something
[01:13] <slacker_nl> anto9us: I cannot switch, believe me :)
[01:13] <slacker_nl> I get a popup with the error, and the only option I have is to reboot
[01:14] <DarthLappy> stefg: Sounds like a plan.  I'll brb 'cause I've gotta move my laptop.
[01:14] <darich> hey all
[01:14] <obstfliege> guten morgen
[01:14] <felixfoertsch> stefg: Is there a tutorial to explain that?
[01:14] <felixfoertsch> :D
[01:14] <darich> am trying to intall edgy eft on a friends laptop using the alternate CD
[01:14] <darich> but....it froze at 85%...while installing Ubuntu Desktop...
[01:14] <darich> the main install cd runs like a dog
[01:14] <slacker_nl> well, 14 minutes left for the edgy iso is in
[01:14] <Stalwart> anyone installed edgy in server install mode?
[01:14] <darich> so this is the best way of doing it....
[01:14] <kijjaz> i've got a dpkg problem: Removing graphviz-cairo ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postrm: 11: dot: not found
[01:15] <darich> any suggestions of possible fixes would be great
[01:15] <kijjaz> and it causes: dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[01:15] <darich> or other approaches
[01:15] <anto9us> slacker_nl, so you're not getting it to boot from cd?
[01:15] <kijjaz> what should i do?
[01:15] <slacker_nl> anto9us: even the "check cd for errors" is failing due to this error"
[01:15] <Schalken0> this isnt something i can try out with the livecd so i ask - in edgy, when you insert a cd and its icon appears on the desktop, does it say the cd's name?
[01:15] <stefg> felixfoertsch: it's dead simple: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup ... sudo nano /etc/fstab... the /dev/names are already in the file, only as comments... see 'man fstab' for the details
[01:15] <slacker_nl> anto9us: correct, well, it boots the cd (you get the install menu, but when it tries to access the cd to get the files, its fails)
[01:17] <anto9us> slacker_nl, if system will boot and work with other cd's then it sounds like that cd may be bad
[01:17] <blas> hi, i booted from  ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso, and it freezes at step6. "starting partition", any idea?
[01:18] <slacker_nl> anto9us: don't know for sure
[01:18] <slacker_nl> anto9us: but Im downloading an new image
[01:18] <kijjaz> dpkg has a problem here: how can i force apt-get to remove a package although it has a dpkg error?
[01:18] <slacker_nl> and will burn it afterwards
[01:18] <stefg> !dpkg
[01:18] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[01:18] <mitrovarr> does anyone know of any modern hardware that ubuntu (and linux in general) just refuses to run on?  I just recently built a new machine, and linux seems to hate it; my ubuntu install on it died horribly, and the live cd fails just as badly.  A lot of livecds (but not all of them) freeze up on boot as well.
[01:19] <stefg> mitrovarr: SATA?
[01:19] <mitrovarr> I'm trying a new install from the alt-install cd but I don't really have much hope for it
[01:19] <mitrovarr> indeed.  ICH7.
[01:19] <kijjaz> !dpkg
[01:19] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[01:19] <mitrovarr> stefg:  But it seems to see the drive and it did run off of it for a while.
[01:19] <kijjaz> -_-"
[01:19] <rawrbbq> gah
[01:20] <rawrbbq> my beryl is acting strange
[01:20] <mitrovarr> stefg:  It seemed to really get nasty when I installed the new graphics card and power supply
[01:20] <rawrbbq> =(
[01:20] <mitrovarr> stefg:  There any known issues with nvidia 8800s?
[01:20] <rawrbbq> beryl is rotating on it's own and doing other features on its own
[01:20] <rawrbbq> =(
[01:21] <mitrovarr> stefg:  So what exactly are the issues with SATA like?
[01:21] <stefg> mitrovarr: it's not the nvidia-card... certain motherboards and SATA-Controllers are troublesome for the stock ubuntu-kernels. Add the exact model and make of your MoBo together with 'Linux' into ggogle and see waht it gives
[01:22] <rawrbbq> anyone know what to do what to do with my beryl problem? =(
[01:22] <felixfoertsch_> DarthLappy: Do you happen to have no floppy drive?
[01:22] <DarthLappy> felixfoertsch_: No, I have one.
[01:23] <anto9us> rawrbbq, might be best to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:23] <rawrbbq> ok
[01:23] <rawrbbq> thx
[01:24] <|markie|> my screenrefresh is fixed at 85 HZ.... no matter what i change in xorg.conf
[01:24] <|markie|> any ideas
[01:24] <slacker_nl> anto9us: when booting in textmode I get the error dusk error BB, AX=4280, drive AC
[01:24] <stefg> !fixres | |markie|
[01:24] <ubotu> |markie|: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:25] <anto9us> slacker_nl, with a new cd?
[01:25] <daedra> !ipod
[01:25] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[01:25] <slacker_nl> funny.. cannot boot from this cd, please use cd2 or try a bios update
[01:25] <slacker_nl> anto9us: no, with the old one
[01:25] <anto9us> slacker_nl, yes, still sounds like could be bad cd
[01:25] <mitrovarr> stefg:  I see issues with the jmb361 chip on the board, but I disabled it.
[01:26] <slacker_nl> anto9us: it does eh..
[01:26] <slacker_nl> oh well
[01:26] <stefg> mitrovarr: does the board have PATA-ports, too?
[01:26] <SubMOA> rawrbbq, sounds fishy... I just installed beryl yesterday and I had a few problems myself
[01:26] <SubMOA> one sec
[01:26] <anto9us> slacker_nl, check it for smudges :)
[01:26] <SubMOA> let me send some links
[01:26] <slacker_nl> anto9us: already did
[01:27] <felixfoertsch_> Could anyone help me installing UT2003? It simply does not work. I do get errors while typing the keycode.
[01:27] <slacker_nl> nothing on the CD
[01:27] <mitrovarr> stefg:  yes, one from the ICH7 and one from the JMB361.  It's got a SATA from that chip, too, but it's not in use either.
[01:27] <stefg> !xgl | SubMOA
[01:27] <ubotu> SubMOA: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:27] <anto9us> slacker_nl, well, maybe that's it, there's loads on mine ;)
[01:27] <rawrbbq> btw, how am I supposed to install this game?
[01:27] <rawrbbq> http://icculus.org/neverball/
[01:27] <SubMOA> stefg, thank you
[01:27] <mitrovarr> I get the same error in a  lot of the distros
[01:27] <mitrovarr> "i8042.c:  Can't read CTR while initializing i8042."
[01:27] <stefg> mitrovarr: so your disks are PATA. you don't use the SATA-ports?
[01:27] <SubMOA> !xgl | rawrbbq
[01:27] <ubotu> rawrbbq: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:28] <slacker_nl> anto9us: I wll try it with a another CD
[01:28] <slacker_nl> 1 minute left and then the DL is completed
[01:28] <mitrovarr> stefg:  no, the primary hard drive is SATA, and there's one on the PATA port too
[01:28] <rawrbbq> uh
[01:28] <slacker_nl> 23 secs..
[01:28] <accept> Can I use Conqueror (was it with K) on Gnome but with the KDE Base installed?
[01:28] <mwe> rawrbbq: sudo aptitude install neverball
[01:28] <rawrbbq> oh
[01:28] <rawrbbq> k
[01:28] <mitrovarr> stefg:  I have 4 sata ports and 1 pata port from the ICH7 and 1 sata and 1 pata from the JMB361
[01:29] <mwe> !info neverball
[01:29] <ubotu> neverball: 3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 468 kB
[01:29] <SubMOA> rarwbbq, I followed this to a T and everything is now kosher
[01:29] <rawrbbq> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:29] <SubMOA> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy?highlight=%28beryl%29
[01:29] <mitrovarr> stefg:  Primary drive is on SATA 1 on the ICH7 and secondary drive is on the slave of the PATA of the ICH7
[01:29] <mwe> accept: you can use gnome apps in kde and vica versa
[01:29] <mwe> rawrbbq: then try that
[01:30] <eegore> This there a version that will run off of a 1 gig usb stick?
[01:30] <mwe> rawrbbq: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:30] <stefg> mitrovarr: If you want to do the full diagnostic program set the pata-drive as primary, install to it (including grub in the MBR) and check if it runs then. Then you can shift the install to a sata drive to compare results...
[01:30] <SubMOA> rawrbbq, I think you can click on the .tar.gz link and everythng is pretty much automated after that... providing you have a (I think) packet manager
[01:30] <SubMOA> in regards to that game
[01:30] <klotho> hey, does anyone know if there's a way to determine if all 196.207.*.* addresses are in Africa?
[01:30] <anto9us> eegore, you can make one, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:31] <SubMOA> ryan, I like your name
[01:31] <SubMOA> <==Ryan
[01:32] <mitrovarr> stefg:  I'm checking into that "i8042.c:  Can't read CTR while initializing i8042." error.  My new install gives that instead of failing silently like the old one, and I think that might be the key.
[01:32] <Sebboh> I use firefox under ubuntu, and I haven't had a lot of luck getting add-ons to install.  Is there an "Ubuntu way" of doing this?  (Just like there is an "Ubuntu way" of being root...? :P )
[01:32] <SubMOA> rawrbbq, any luck?
[01:32] <ryan> hi SubMOA
[01:33] <SubMOA> How are you doing, ryan?
[01:33] <klotho> what's the ubuntu way of being root?
[01:33] <SubMOA> klotho,  I think Sudo
[01:33] <klotho> oh. that.
[01:33] <mitrovarr> wow, it's always reassuring when fsck dies during boot.
[01:34] <SubMOA> I think so, just try sudo su, i believe... I'm new, though... when the blind leadeth the blind...
[01:34] <Sebboh> sudo.  The default installation doesn't include a root password at all; it's impossible to *log on* in as root.
[01:34] <stefg> mitrovarr: Seems like a kernel bug in the 64-bit kernel (according to google) ... tried a 32-bit version already?
[01:34] <anto9us> Sebboh, no, they should work after restarting firefox, firefox is installed by default though, you shouldn't have needed to install it
[01:34] <rawrbbq> I installed the game
[01:34] <rawrbbq> but my beryl is still screwed
[01:34] <rawrbbq> =(
[01:34] <SubMOA> sebboh, really?  I just recently installed Edgy (first time to linux) and i remember having to do some stuff where I had to sudo su
[01:34] <mitrovarr> stefg:  No.  I suppose that's next.  Time to download yet another installation CD.  Bah.
[01:35] <SubMOA> rawrbbq, are you new to Ubuntu and/or Linux?
[01:35] <melon> can somebody point me in the direction for information on how to get ubuntu to detect my phone (connected by usb) please?
[01:35] <rawrbbq> yes
[01:35] <Sebboh> Well, the "Web Developer 1.0.2" extension hangs on "checking compatibility"...
[01:35] <stefg> mitrovarr: it's winter here... so teh heat coming from glowing network-cables is just welcome :-)
[01:35] <chrissturm> if i want to move /var to a different partition, what options do i need in the cp command to copy all file owners, links and attributes correctly?
[01:35] <anto9us> melon, lsusb and dmesg are 2 useful commands there
[01:35] <SubMOA> rawrbbq, I am, too, so I know what I would do:  Follow all the directions on this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy?highlight=%28beryl%29
[01:36] <SubMOA> basically reinstall, I guess
[01:36] <seamus7> What would cause my laptop to all of a sudden have access to larger resolutions .... I thought it was impossible to go beyond what I thought was its default 1280x800
[01:36] <mitrovarr> Just for the record, MSI motherboards are as buggy as an amazon rainforest.
[01:36] <Sebboh> sub, yes, you have to be root sometimes, but you can't "log on" as root.  The password for root is "*", which isn't a valid MD5 hash.. So logins for root are effectively banned.
[01:36] <SubMOA> ...not sure how to UNISTALL it, so you can have a nice clean reinstall, though
[01:36] <rawrbbq> hum
[01:37] <anto9us> seamus7, it may be offering larger virtual desktops
[01:37] <SubMOA> sebboh, ohh... I thought I just used my login password, but I'm probably thinking of something different
[01:37] <mitrovarr> stefg:  Trust me, the 8800 makes enough heat for even the coldest user.
[01:37] <stefg> and noise...
[01:37] <SubMOA> sebboh, like for the Synaptic Package Manager... I always have to type in my password
[01:37] <mitrovarr> stefg:  it's less a network card and more of a space heater that renders on the side.
[01:37] <mitrovarr> stefg:  err, video card
[01:37] <SubMOA> rawrbbq, I would hang out a big and see if someone else can help
[01:37] <SubMOA> sorry
[01:38] <jzh_daemon> SubMOA, I am not "RYAN" who registered
[01:38] <benjamoon> hey there - can anyone help me with a grub command line? i'm trying to boot a winxp on hda4 but am getting a 'hal.dll not found' error
[01:38] <SubMOA> big should be bit
[01:38] <SubMOA> jzh_daemon, sorry?
[01:38] <benjamoon> I know it has something to do with thr grub set up.... but what??
[01:38] <seamus7> anto9us: well i was activating the BigDesktop mode for two monitors and now my laptop is saying it's displaying at 1280x1024 .... will this be harmful for the laptop monitor if its default resolution ceiling had been 1280x800 ??
[01:39] <mitrovarr> stefg:  I think you're right about the 64 bit thing.  I tried booting into my old install on the PATA drive that hasn't been maintained in about a year, and it booted right up.  It's 32 bit.
[01:39] <anto9us> seamus7, no, if it can display it then go with it
[01:39] <melon> lsusb outputs: Bus 006 Device 015: ID 04e8:665c Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd <-- which i guess is good that it finds it.. though.. i still can't seem to do anything with it..
[01:39] <melon> but cheers.. a step in the right direction i guess :)
[01:40] <anto9us> seamus7, that said, however, that resolution isn't suitable for widescreen display, the aspect ratio will be distorted
[01:40] <stefg> mitrovarr: kernel bug.... not much you can do, except to look for a patch and build your own... or simply use 32-bit, add a bugreport to launchpad and wait approx. 6 months to (maybe) get a fix
[01:40] <seamus7> anto9us: one other thing .... I've noticed my login display fonts are a bit out of wack .... when I type in my name and password the characters are larger than usual
[01:40] <hambone1943> does anyone know default location of where wallpaper files are stored? tia
[01:40] <rawrbbq> hum
[01:40] <mitrovarr> stefg:  I think we're going to be on 128 bit software before they get the bugs worked out of 64 bit operating systems.  I know 64 bit xp is supposed to be even worse.
[01:40] <rawrbbq> it seems that the problems stopped when I turned off conky
[01:40] <rawrbbq> strange..
[01:41] <SubMOA> seamus7, I've noticed the same thing, except everything is smaller
[01:41] <anto9us> melon, dmesg after plugging it in will indicate if it detects and loads a driver for it
[01:41] <SubMOA> rawrbbq, what is conky?
[01:41] <rawrbbq> eh
[01:41] <stefg> mitrovarr: that's why i wait at least another year before going 64-bit/quadcore ...
[01:41] <anto9us> melon, you'll then be able to restart ekiga or whatever and select the usb device as your input and output
[01:41] <rawrbbq> it shows stuff on the desktop, like cpu-usage, network-usage, harddrive and so on
[01:41] <seamus7> SubMOA: I hate it cause I know it's something minor ... somewhere... causing this .... I had just reinstalled fglrx 8.28.8 after trying to get 8.32.5 working and failed
[01:42] <mitrovarr> stefg:  Ah, well, core 2 duos practically operate better in 32 bit anyway.
[01:42] <anto9us> seamus7, mine are like that with native nvidia drivers, it's not such a big problem that's caused me to investigate and solve it though
[01:43] <SubMOA> seamus7, wow, I start to feel good about knowing a bit about Linux, then I read  that and realize I'm totally ignorant.  Anyway, I installed Beryl the other day and everything on my login screen got pretty tiny... I thought maybe I had altered a resolution on accident when i messed witth the xorg.conf file, but everything after that worked fine.
[01:43] <SubMOA> as to what yoyu said... ummm... good luck?
[01:43] <seamus7> anto9us: no it's not ... (i hope) ....
[01:44] <red> hello how do i mount gmail?
[01:44] <Sebboh> reg, google for fuse gmail
[01:44] <anto9us> seamus7, sorry, was referring to font size on login
[01:44] <red> fuse gmail?
[01:45] <stefg> !fuse
[01:45] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:45] <red> ok thnx
[01:45] <stefg> !info libfuse
[01:45] <ubotu> Package libfuse does not exist in any distro I know
[01:45] <stefg> !info fuse
[01:45] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in any distro I know
[01:45] <eegore> !how to make a grub boot disk
[01:45] <stefg> eegore: no, it's not that simple :-)
[01:45] <seamus7> When I go BigDesktop ... I wonder how it computes the resolution ... the one that goes something like 2560x1024?
[01:45] <Sebboh> reg, once you know how it works, check your package manager for the packages you need.  Fuse is filesystem user space something.  It has a gmail plugin.  As I understand it, fuse+the gmail plugin is the best way to mount a gmail account as a local filesystem.  I don't know if ubuntu has packages for fuse; it probably does.
[01:46] <stefg> !grub | eegore
[01:46] <ubotu> eegore: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto