[00:54] <ironpillow> Hi all, I am looking for a resource to learn how to customize ubuntu server ISO. I want to pre-seed it with the applications I need because I will be installing quite a few servers each month. Any advice? thanks!
[00:56] <sarnold> you'd probably be better served to configure cloud-init and use the cloud-images if you can -- that'll skip basically all the install time, and just jump right to a usable system
[01:17] <ironpillow> sarnold: I am installing on local machines and not cloud server.
[01:18] <sarnold> ironpillow: ah, bare metal then? hmm. *maybe* maas can make that more pleasant
[01:18] <ironpillow> yeah bare metal. don't know about maas. I will look into it. thanks :)
[01:20] <sarnold> (the truth is not many people do much with the isos; cloud images and cloud-init is way easier and better documented.. debian preseeds are vastly underdocumented :( )
[01:23] <bryce> ironpillow, might look at https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-iso-with-cubic/ ?
[01:30] <ironpillow> sarnold: yeah, it's hard to find how to pre-seed
[01:31] <ironpillow> bryce: from what I gather, cubic is for ubuntu with gui not ubuntu server.
[01:39] <marcoceppi> Looking to get some help with TFTP / Preseed for Ubuntu 18.04. I've sync'd down this entire directory: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ and setup tftpd to read it as it's root. I can netboot into an installer but whenever I try to specify a preseed as either tftp or http and made some progress with this preseed file and this boot-screens/txt.cfg: preseed (http://paste.
[01:39] <marcoceppi> ubuntu.com/p/HXsMDWWQzX/) boot-screens/txt.cfg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rjqDV4Gbd7/)
[01:39] <marcoceppi> Is there a better example for this other than https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apbs02.html? I've used that example preseed with my own values and the directions covered within
[01:47] <sarnold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HXsMDWWQzX/
[06:12] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:42] <Mighty_Mel> Morning!
[10:14] <weedmic> help - is there a way for me to see when the current installation was done of a programe?  and what it was before it was upgraded?  found nothing in man:apt.  perhaps an update log?
[10:22] <weedmic> nvm found /var/log/apt/history
[10:50] <weedmic> can having only 4gb free on / - affect cpu usage percent?
[11:06] <weedmic> I think not - as swap is not on / so nvm
[12:30] <marcoceppi> Looking to get some help with TFTP / Preseed for Ubuntu 18.04. I've sync'd down this entire directory: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ and setup tftpd to read it as it's root. I can netboot into an installer and do the normal setup but whenever I try to specify a preseed as either tftp or http I get a different root menu that makes it seem like the preseed loaded but its
[12:30] <marcoceppi> still not fully automatic Here are my preseed file and this boot-screens/txt.cfg: preseed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HXsMDWWQzX/) boot-screens/txt.cfg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rjqDV4Gbd7/). Is there a better example for this other than https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apbs02.html? I've used that example preseed with my own values and the directions covered within
[13:44] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, when you say it's not automatic, what's the first question you get?
[14:14] <weedmic> Is there a way I can limit the amount of cpu % docker can use/access/occupy?  For example, set a max usage to 40%?  If yes, how?
[14:18] <stripe> hi all, 18.04 trying to connect lxd/lxc containers to my lan instead of a subnet, none of the documentation will work, I can assign ip's from my dhcp server but then dont get any network access, anyone know of some docs that could help? cheers :0
[14:19] <stripe> ^:)
[14:28] <TJ-> with an ifupdown install, does anyone know of a way to restart a remote system's network config without bringing down the interface or interrupting service on existing IP addresses, when new IP addresses have been added in 'interfaces' file?
[14:43] <rbasak> TJ-: I believe that anything you do is a hack because ifupdown doesn't natively support that. So you might as well bring up the new IP addresses by hand.
[14:44] <rbasak> Of course that means you never get to test the new interfaces file.
[14:58] <marcoceppi> lordcirth_: let me run it again, but it's a pretty long menu
[15:01] <TJ-> rbasak: I thought as much... Just added a lot of IPv6 addresses, time to write a manual script to do it for me
[15:04] <marcoceppi> lordcirth_: so I get the screen with Installer Boot Menu (which is fine, I haven't tweaked the timeout for that yet) once initrd.gz loads it places me at a screen with "Ubuntu installer main menu" where the first few options are "Access software for a blind person using a braille display", "Detect network hardware", "Configure the network", "Download debconf preconfigured file", ...
[15:05] <marcoceppi> Ideally, this is where the preseed would have taken place to avoid having to run through these steps on screen
[15:13] <marcoceppi> lordcirth_: both bionic and xenial give me the same result :|
[15:32] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, oh, that menu. That generally happens when you click Back, or something goes wrong
[15:33] <marcoceppi> yeah, I'm not sure what's going wrong. If it's fetching my preseed and the preseed is wrong or if it's failing to get that far
[15:33] <rbasak> marcoceppi: hello, BTW :)
[15:33] <rbasak> Hope you're well!
[15:34] <marcoceppi> o/ rbasak! Doing well except for this stubborn netboot ;)
[15:34] <rbasak> Sorry I can't help with that. It's been years since I touched d-i netboot.
[15:35] <marcoceppi> no worries, it's good to know this menu is because somethings wrong
[15:35] <marcoceppi> hope you're doing well too!
[15:35] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, you can switch to a tty and read the logs
[15:35] <rbasak> I'm good thanks!
[15:36] <marcoceppi> lordcirth_: I dropped to a busybox shell and more'd the logs
[15:36] <rbasak> IIRC d-i is particularly finnicky about preseed syntax and that kind of thing, with not much help if there's something wrong.
[15:36] <marcoceppi>  /var/log/syslog in particular
[15:36] <marcoceppi> I saw it set the values from append, and get the value for preseed/url twice
[15:36] <marcoceppi> but I'm not sure where that woudl be stored if it downloaded it, for example
[15:37] <marcoceppi> lordcirth_: what should I be looking for?
[15:38] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, I forget the path, but there's an installer log as well.
[15:39] <marcoceppi> lordcirth_: so I found /var/lib/preseed/log which shows my choices from the append line. `/var/log` only has syslog. I'll hunt for installer
[15:40] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, That might be the one I'm thinking of. Can you pastebin it?
[15:41] <marcoceppi> ehhhhhhhhhh, probably not in this busybox, but it's essentially what's in my kernel append. let me try
[15:43] <marcoceppi> I'm worried that my busy box session didn't have any networking configured lordcirth_, makes me think what I'm presenting in the grub append lines isn't correct or missing an item
[15:43] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, you should have 'nc' installed in busybox. "cat log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:43] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, so, if you are missing a line, generally the installer will just ask you that question - partial preseeds are normal
[15:44] <marcoceppi> except I set this to critcal, and my preseed file is fetched over the network
[15:44] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, and your network didn't come up?
[15:44] <marcoceppi> It didn't until I ran that step in the aforementioned installer box
[15:44] <lordcirth_> Do you have multiple interfaces?
[15:44] <marcoceppi> I have a pastebin now
[15:44] <marcoceppi> I have 4
[15:45] <marcoceppi> https://termbin.com/vy6n
[15:45] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, "critcal" should be "critical"
[15:46] <marcoceppi> ... let me try that
[16:12] <marcoceppi> lordcirth_: thanks for your help, apparently my speeeling caused quite a few days of no progress
[16:36] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, lol. So it works now?
[16:40] <marcoceppi> yeah >.>
[16:40] <marcoceppi> I just need to get the Installer Boot Menu to timeout and go to the install option I think I have that figured out
[16:40] <marcoceppi> otherwise install went swimmingly
[16:42] <marcoceppi> thanks again for your help lordcirth_
[16:43] <lordcirth_> marcoceppi, you're welcome!
[16:50] <lordcirth_> strixdio, Are you trying to ssh as root?
[16:50] <strixdio> any reason a fresh install of ubuntu server would be giving me access denied for ssh?
[16:50] <strixdio> whoops
[16:50] <strixdio> no
[16:50] <strixdio> the standard user that was created in the wizard during install
[16:50] <lordcirth_> strixdio, and the same password works on a tty?
[16:51] <strixdio> correct
[16:52] <strixdio> I'm getting a literal "access denied"
[16:52] <lordcirth_> strixdio, does it list auth methods when it says that?
[16:52] <strixdio> hmmmmm actually, hang on a sec.
[16:52] <strixdio> something isn't right.
[16:52] <lordcirth_> I would also confirm that it is the host you think it is.
[16:52] <strixdio> it definitely is
[16:53] <strixdio> but checking it for a network connection on the TTY, it has nothing
[16:53] <strixdio> now, I'm used to gentoo method of setting up network connections-- what config file am I using for ubuntu server?
[16:53] <lordcirth_> strixdio, 18.04?
[16:53] <strixdio> yes
[16:53] <lordcirth_>  /etc/netplan/*
[16:53] <strixdio> interfaces?
[16:53] <strixdio> o
[16:54] <strixdio> and restarting the network?
[16:54] <lordcirth_> strixdio, 'netplan apply'
[16:55] <strixdio> thanks.
[16:55] <strixdio> strange though lol
[16:55] <cyphermox> "access denied" wouldn't be a return due to missing network
[16:55] <strixdio> hmmm
[16:55] <strixdio> I can't ping anything though
[16:56] <strixdio> so I want to first make sure that's all sorted
[16:56] <cyphermox> yup
[16:57] <strixdio> derp.
[16:58] <cyphermox> two machines, one IP?
[16:58] <strixdio> had it on the wrong network
[16:58] <strixdio> :D
[17:00] <strixdio> that's all it was.
[17:00] <strixdio> not sure why I was getting access denied earlier...
[17:01]  * strixdio shrugs
[17:01] <strixdio> anyway, thanks :)
[23:59] <mwhudson> anyone want to test a live-server installer that supports reusing partitions? :)


[00:59] <PCLine__> Hello everyone.
[01:03] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:18] <PCLine__> Hey Unit193 - How you doing today?
[01:30] <Unit193> Alive I think.
[01:31] <PCLine__> I will verify that ... you Are Alive!
[20:43] <antonm> Hi
[21:58] <dzho> antonm: hi!


[00:48] <bluesabre> flocculant, created a pad, added some notes here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-y-locker
[00:56] <Unit193> bluesabre: ...Think I can get a new -session upload done without getting yelled at? :P
[00:57] <bluesabre> Unit193, new stable?
[00:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: No, see -xfce?
[00:57] <bluesabre> aha
[00:58] <Unit193> I think it's good no matter what we do.
[00:58] <bluesabre> indeed
[00:58] <bluesabre> Unit193, I see no issue with it
[00:59] <bluesabre> Unit193, feel free to upload, it can certainly save us trouble down the line
[01:00] <bluesabre> and it'll have to go to -proposed anyway
[01:00] <bluesabre> :D
[01:00] <Unit193> Yeeeah, saw that bit.  Wondering if I can easily get my diff out of SVN.
[02:24] <bluesabre> flocculant, also started documenting file managers, http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-z-filemanager
[02:24] <Unit193> :(
[02:25] <Unit193> bluesabre: Wait, weren't we supposed to go through patches too?
[02:25] <bluesabre> Unit193, yeah, just started writing things up, we won't switch unless we have to
[02:26] <Unit193> Yes yes, I got that.  Just reminded me about that bit that I'd forgotten. :P
[02:26] <bluesabre> :)
[02:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://piratenpad.de/p/thunar-patches :P
[02:50] <bluesabre> Unit193, thanks for this
[02:50] <Unit193> Sure thing.  Figured you can make it more understandable/pretty if needed.  Or move it over too. :P
[02:51] <bluesabre> Yeah, I'll start to review and add notes as I make progress
[02:51] <bluesabre> (though, probably not tonight)
[02:52] <Unit193> Yeeeah, several more potential fixes in there too. :/
[02:54] <bluesabre> at least it's not very difficult to reproduce
[06:49] <flocculant> bluesabre: thanks for both - I did start making some usability notes for files managers which I promptly lost - will do so again
[06:49] <flocculant> though I do remember 'open terminal here' only worked with pcmanfm
[07:17] <flocculant> bluesabre: added a few notes to the locker pad
[07:17] <flocculant> we really don't have much time - don't know if you were aware of that :p
[07:18] <flocculant> next week to decide I guess - so we're changed prior to RC
[07:18] <Unit193> I presume you saw I uploaded -session?
[07:23] <flocculant> I read it twice I think :p
[07:23] <Unit193> Yey, so I don't have to tell you.
[07:24] <flocculant> nope :)
[07:26] <flocculant> Unit193: oh and thanks for the patches paste too :)
[07:28] <Unit193> That's a pad.
[07:29] <flocculant> oh yes
[07:30] <flocculant> said I was still waking up ...
[07:31] <Unit193> But sure thing, doc.
[07:31] <flocculant> :)
[07:32] <flocculant> bbl
[09:15] <bluesabre> flocculant, little time indeed, hence all the writing and patching and whatnot :)
[11:05] <flocculant> bluesabre: :)
[16:18] <bluesabre> hey flocculant
[16:19] <flocculant> good lord
[16:19] <bluesabre> on lunch break, thought I'd see if you were around to discuss :)
[16:19] <flocculant> just got in :)
[16:19] <flocculant> just grab a cup of something hot - be 2 minutes
[16:19] <bluesabre> k
[16:20] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - back :)
[16:21] <bluesabre> cool
[16:21] <bluesabre> so, light-locker
[16:21] <flocculant> I assume you're ok not releasing today/tomorrow
[16:22] <bluesabre> yeah, that's fine, or we can release with the stipulation that locking is broken and that 16.10 final may ship with a different locker
[16:22] <bluesabre> either way is fine by me
[16:22] <flocculant> really don't want to do that
[16:22] <flocculant> ship that is
[16:22] <bluesabre> boat maybe?
[16:23] <flocculant> this is a bit different than no mouse cursor
[16:23] <bluesabre> yes
[16:23] <flocculant> ha ha - more like a oil tanker :p
[16:23] <bluesabre> this is productivity breaking
[16:23] <bluesabre> :D
[16:23] <flocculant> yea - socially not very good for us to do it either imo
[16:23] <bluesabre> true
[16:23] <flocculant> I don't know if you can mark the bug as critical?
[16:24] <bluesabre> then yeah, let's skip beta and come to a decision on the locker by mid-next week
[16:24] <bluesabre> I'll check
[16:24] <bluesabre> not in bug squad, but maybe
[16:24] <flocculant> if not once the chaff has settled on other flavours releasing I was going to ping infinity to get it changed if *we* had no-one who could
[16:24] <flocculant> which will also remind him of the issue :p
[16:25] <flocculant> he might be able to get someone to look *shrug*
[16:25] <bluesabre> flocculant, this one, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1622303
[16:25] <flocculant> yea
[16:25] <flocculant> I KNOW for sure I can't or it would be marked so :p
[16:25] <bluesabre> marked it critical
[16:26] <flocculant> awesome
[16:26] <flocculant> I'll ensure we've got critical tracker fails
[16:26] <bluesabre> good deal
[16:26] <flocculant> so - yea - mid-week for a decision sounds right
[16:27] <flocculant> I'm leaning g-s tbh, it does at least look more like what we have now
[16:27] <bluesabre> cool, that's the one I've used for quite some time, can vouch for it :)
[16:27] <flocculant> well I've certainly got it now :p
[16:28] <bluesabre> flocculant, what info/data should we collect for mid-next week?
[16:28] <bluesabre> I can draft up light-locker replacement docs
[16:28] <flocculant> this is the trouble with desktops and me - I don't suspend, rarely lock so don't use it so miss fails on that type of thing
[16:28] <bluesabre> (should they be needed)
[16:28] <bluesabre> yeah
[16:29] <flocculant> well as far as data goes - not sure - the important data is the bug as far as getting it changed I guess
[16:29] <flocculant> I can whack a critical test mail out to testers - purge l-l, install x and test quickly
[16:29] <bluesabre> Subscribed cavalier so that he might be able to take a look at it as well
[16:30] <flocculant> could even do a quick testcase on tracker (today/tomorrow)
[16:30] <bluesabre> good idea
[16:30] <bluesabre> lunch break wrapping up now
[16:31] <flocculant> it could be 1 - purge l-l, install g-s check, purge g-s, autoremove, install x-s
[16:31] <bluesabre> let me know if there's anything you need from me and I'll get it together tonight
[16:31] <bluesabre> sounds good to me
[16:31] <bluesabre> include:
[16:31] <bluesabre> killall light-locker; gnome-screensaver; killall gnome-screensaver; xscreensaver, etc etc
[16:32] <flocculant> ok
[16:32] <bluesabre> since they need to be active to respond to the lock command
[16:32] <bluesabre> If you drop it in a pad, I can review it as well
[16:32] <flocculant> I'll do that soonish - paste link in here - you look at test tonight please :)
[16:32] <bluesabre> will do
[16:32] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[16:32] <flocculant> ok - thanks :)
[16:32] <flocculant> have fun
[16:32] <bluesabre> thx
[16:37] <jjfrv8> flocculant, I won't be around tonight and possibly not tomorrow either but I just did a quick test
[16:37] <jjfrv8> purged l-l, installed g-s, checked - OK
[16:40] <flocculant> jjfrv8: thanks :)
[16:41] <flocculant> there will be a testcase on package tracker turn up over the weekend once bluesabre and I have padded etc :)
[16:42] <jjfrv8> Ok, will try to do a more formal test then.
[16:42] <jjfrv8> Just did x-s after g-s and that's okay too.
[16:43] <flocculant> I think Sean will want tests on changing user too
[16:43] <flocculant> thanks for looking :)
[16:43] <jjfrv8> Sure. Good luck :)
[16:43] <flocculant> :)
[17:12] <flocculant> bluesabre: http://pad.ubuntu.com/lock-change
[17:41] <flocculant> knome: do we actually need to do an announcement?
[17:41] <flocculant> given it'll say "Yaketty Final Beta" 'There isn't one'
[18:25] <Unit193> Well you *can* do it like that, but only for the most basic tests.
[18:29] <flocculant> Unit193: if you're talking about the pad - then it's not locked or anything you can edit it
[18:46] <Unit193> No, not opened it yet.
[19:14] <flocculant> okeydoke :p
[19:23] <knome> flocculant, don't think it's critical
[19:24] <flocculant> me neither - just wanted to double check there :)
[19:36] <flocculant> with it being the only time I can remember us not releasing something milestone time
[19:36] <knome> mhm
[19:37] <flocculant> on the other hand if people are that interested - trawl through irc logs roundabout release time or dev m/l ;)
[19:37] <flocculant> anyway - cool - just needed to be sure there
[23:15] <knome> bluesabre, btw, you'll have all the council duties to yourself the whole weekend - i'll be leaving tomorrow afternoon UTC and returning on sunday evening