[00:00] <euryale> ok i will try it now.
[00:00] <euryale> thanks.
[00:00] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, I'll do some looking with you to see if anything can be dug up. :)
[00:00] <nf7> Could someone help me? I follow this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx , but my stick doesn't appear in the list of bootable devices when I boot my Mac. It will work on a regular PC though. And I am using the 14.04+Mac version of the iso.
[00:00] <Tunix> minimec: i used that shitty drivers around 2004/2005
[00:00] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, much appreciated. I'm truly stumped by it.
[00:00] <minimec> euryale: To be sure you can reconfigure the xserver-xorg. The command will do everything for you.
[00:01] <euryale> so u recommend reconfiguring 1st before the purge?
[00:01] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, haha, I bet. I've had my share of stumps with Ubuntu. But thanks to the community, my problems have been solved.
[00:01] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, you are running 14.04, correct?
[00:01] <adam_____> crocket: any luck?
[00:01] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, correct, just upgraded (clean install) from 12.04
[00:02] <euryale> @minimec. so u recommend reconfiguring 1st before the purge?
[00:02] <Tunix> minimec: i actually disasselbled them (in part) to send meaningful bug reports
[00:02] <minimec> Tunix: I got a amd x1250 CPU/GPU combo once, and 4 month later amd decided to drop fglrx support for the GPU... That did it for me! No more AMD anymore!
[00:02] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, Thanks. And what is the first version of Ubuntu that was installed on you pc, if you remember?
[00:03] <adam_____> time estimates on the upgrade downloads are frustrating.. started saying 1day 17hours, now is zooming along saying 8 mins left o_O
[00:03] <k1l_> adam_____: depends on the real connection speed it gets. if it starts very slow it will calculate with that slow speed
[00:04] <minimec> euryale: First purge!
[00:04] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, that particular one has only ever run 12.04 but this afternoon I formatted the drive and installed 14.04
[00:04] <euryale> ok. what is the line again?
[00:04] <minimec> euryale: But you shouldn't need the 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' command.
[00:05] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, okay. And you are on the original Ubuntu or Xubuntu, etc?
[00:05] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, ubuntu
[00:05] <minimec> euryale: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[00:05] <euryale> no the purge. apt-get purge flgrx?
[00:05] <adam_____> k1l_: seems to change for each lib
[00:05] <etecan> hi, is there a way to browse files from a android phone from the terminal?
[00:05] <euryale> unable to locate package fglrx
[00:05] <adam_____> it's now up to 33 mins left
[00:06] <minimec> euryale: So it's not installed...
[00:06] <xar-> etecan: yes
[00:06] <adam_____> reminds me of Windows progress bars :)
[00:06] <etecan> xar-: how can I do it?
[00:06] <euryale> i intalled it via terminal .run file
[00:06] <minimec> euryale: You are not using the fglrx driver...
[00:06] <minimec> euryale: Oh ok.
[00:06] <euryale> minimac: what should i do now?
[00:07] <adam_____> 4mins left until I get a new OS :) :) :)
[00:07] <minimec> euryale: Is there an uninstall option flag maybe? I normally recommend to use the package provided by ubuntu or maybe the xorg edgers ppa.
[00:07] <adam_____> now .. 9 mins..
[00:08] <etecan> xar- If you can explain me please :) I'm not finding the correct path
[00:08] <adam_____> anyone know how long their upgrade took on an SSD once all the files were downloaded?
[00:08] <Leo_Verto> windows progress estimation is just horrible
[00:08] <AP-> hi guys, in gnome 2 i could set per-app themes & font sizes etc with gtkrc2. Is there such a substitute in gnome 3? Or could somebody recommend an alternative desktop environment where this is possible. Thank you
[00:08] <euryale> minimac: maybe, but i don't know where to locate that.
[00:08] <Tunix> AP-: xfce
[00:08] <minimec> euryale: Neither do I... ;)
[00:09] <AP-> Tunix, does this permit setting of themes per application?
[00:09] <euryale> minimac: im s___t out of luck :)
[00:09] <MHodge> tylerburtonca: You know what's funny? I can only seem to find fixes for Xubuntu. :O
[00:10] <AP-> I wonder if the gtk2 per-app theming possibilities still exist with mint mate
[00:10] <xar-> etecan: busy right now sorry, i just know its possible
[00:10] <euryale> minimac: ok here im browsing on my phone, i hope this one works :)
[00:11] <etecan> xar-: No problem, I'll keep searching on the web then
[00:11] <NoSkillDwnload> hello guys! i have a problem with the new 14.04LTS
[00:11] <batse> m
[00:11] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, what's your problem?
[00:11] <MHodge> :)
[00:11] <minimec> euryale: Well basically you could just 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-fglrx.conf' and then 'sudo reboot'. It should then use the default driver again, but the driver would still be installed but not used
[00:11] <NoSkillDwnload> i cant access openvpn via networkmanager anymore. It always crashes when i am loading the config
[00:12] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, do you have the original Ubuntu install or Xubuntu, etc?
[00:12] <NoSkillDwnload> I have the original Ubuntu with unity
[00:13] <AP-> kde looks as ugly as ever >_>
[00:13] <minimec> euryale: the xorg.conf file just contains the fglrx configuration. Without such a file Ubuntu falls back to the default driver....
[00:13] <AP-> somebody please kill it with fire :D
[00:13] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, thanks! I'll see what I can dig up for you. tylerburtonca: I'm also still looking for a solution for you.
[00:13] <euryale> minimec: i have located it. its in /usr/share/ati/
[00:13] <Leo_Verto> I like Unity because it's a lot different to the windows approach of things
[00:13] <elid> Hey, I'm on 13.10 (amd64) and I want to upgrade to 14.04, but Software Updater says that my computer is up to date, also apt-get update and apt-get upgrade don't help. Suggestions?
[00:13] <NoSkillDwnload> Thanks mate!
[00:13] <Leo_Verto> and menu bars on the sides are actually very efficient
[00:14] <Leo_Verto> elid, have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?
[00:14] <elid> Leo_Verto: No, lemme try and I'll get back then.
[00:14] <Barridus> the command to update 12.04 server to 14.04 is do-release upgrade, right?
[00:15] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, yeah I also saw those Xubuntu fixes as well but also saw them breaking some installs so I didn't want to try it
[00:15] <adam_____> Barridus: yup
[00:15] <tux_> hi people i have 13.10  and love it .the issues is that a college in az doesnt support linux how can i make it work so there will be no issues
[00:15] <macscam1> if i am running ubuntu with unity, is it possible to get gnome software?
[00:15] <elid> Leo_Verto It says "Calculating upgrade... Done", and exits
[00:15] <adam_____> Barridus: as root
[00:15] <adam_____> elid: read above.. any errors?
[00:16] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling?
[00:16] <NoSkillDwnload> yes
[00:16] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, back in a bit
[00:16] <elid> adam_____: Nope
[00:17] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, hmm... That may be a bug on your system. I'll do some looking to see if others have issues with this.
[00:17] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, In the mean time, I'll continue to look.
[00:17] <adam_____> elid: do "sudo do-release
[00:17] <minimec> euryale: moving the xorg.conf file would be my first choice. If the system is running you might then delete that ati folder or (better) check for an uninstall option of that fglrx binary driver you used.
[00:17] <adam_____> do "sudo do-release-update"
[00:18] <Barridus> adam_____: oh never mind, it needs -d until the .1 release, i forgot
[00:18] <NoSkillDwnload> lol i am stuck in the desktop swithcer. I have activated the ambience theme and now i cant switch back into the desktops
[00:18] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, just for future reference, do sudo apt-get update. :)
[00:18] <Tunix> AP-: xfce apps use gtk2 so i guess it is possible
[00:18] <macscam1> can someone explain... am i running gnome and unity at the same time in ubuntu 14?
[00:18] <macscam1> with the default
[00:19] <adam_____> Barridus: :)
[00:19] <elid> adam_____: It says command not found
[00:19] <minimec> euryale: Simply deleting the ATI folder will NOT work, because you still have that xorg.conf file in place.
[00:19] <adam_____> elid: upgrade
[00:19] <adam_____> not update.. oops
[00:19] <elid> adam_____: It's okay, it seems to be working
[00:20] <elid> adam_____: No new release found
[00:20] <adam_____> weird
[00:20] <adam_____> do a sudo apt-get update
[00:20] <adam_____> then try again
[00:20] <euryale> minimec: i did reinstall xorg and configure xorg.
[00:20] <elid> adam_____: I'll get back once it's done
[00:20] <euryale> i hope this works, will now reboot.
[00:21] <Barridus> once this update's over, i need to figure out why init.d stuff i've googled isn't helping make a service start automatically
[00:21] <adam_____> downloads finished on my 14.04 upgrade. unpacking now
[00:22] <adam_____> have to switch to my tablet soon
[00:22] <elid> adam____ ok
[00:22] <adam_____> worked?
[00:22] <minimec> euryale: Again... Check if you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rename/delete it (if present). Otherwise your system wil not boot. Altough the xorg reconfiguration you did might have done it for you.
[00:22] <NoSkillDwnload> back. Had to restart
[00:23] <minimec> euryale: Well it will boot but not in graphical mode...
[00:23] <euryale> minimec: im back and in graphical mode, it worked.
[00:23] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, Welcome Back!
[00:23] <minimec> euryale: Heureka ;)
[00:23] <euryale> :D
[00:24] <crocket> Hello
[00:24] <crocket> adam_____, ppa-purge was enough.
[00:24] <elid> adam_____: OK it's checking
[00:24] <euryale> i did uninstall the uninstall.sh  and purge fglrx and then remove xorg.conf and reinstall xorg and then configure xorg then reboot.
[00:24] <minimec> euryale: Now check for an uninstall option of the AMD binary driver you downloaded. It might conflict with some later installation of a fglrx ubuntu deb package.
[00:24] <MHodge> Must restart. I'll be back.
[00:25] <adam_____> crocket: good to hear
[00:25] <euryale> ok
[00:25] <crocket> I'm now upgrading.
[00:25] <AnthonyUK> I'm going back to 12.04 for now
[00:25] <elid> adam_____: It's working I think
[00:26] <Leo_Verto> AnthonyUK, 12.04, really?
[00:26] <adam_____> elid: nice
[00:26] <AnthonyUK> Yeh cant get a bunch of stuff to work that I could in12.04
[00:26] <adam_____> mine is chugging along
[00:26] <elid> adam_____: thanks for the help :)
[00:26] <AnthonyUK> think i will wait half a year til all the issues are fixed
[00:26] <adam_____> elid: not much I did, but you're welcome! :)
[00:26] <lagbox> 13.04 13.10 ?
[00:26] <euryale> minimec: it completely removed.
[00:27] <elid> adam_____: Well, for the commands
[00:27] <adam_____> cheers!
[00:27] <elid> adam_____: I wouldn't have figured that out myself
[00:27] <elid> close
[00:27] <minimec> euryale: Well done!
[00:27] <elid> oops
[00:28] <lordp> Is there a place I can lodge a bug for commands missing from a package in 14.04?
[00:28] <rww> lordp: which commands, which package?
[00:30] <euryale> minimec: thanks! :)
[00:30] <lordp> rww: tesseract-ocr amd64, missing a number of commands used for training, but it's got the man pages for them
[00:31] <minimec> euryale: No problem.
[00:31] <lordp> Not sure if the x86 package is affected as well
[00:31] <lordp> Version 3.03.02-3
[00:33] <rww> lordp: looks like that package is pulled from Debian, and the Debian version has that problem fixed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742029
[00:33] <rww> lordp: ubuntu-bug tesseract-ocr should get you to the right page for a bug report in Ubuntu
[00:34] <SKELETR0N> what can I use to install a .deb?
[00:34] <lordp> rww: ok, thanks
[00:35] <freshman> exit
[00:36] <litropy> on 13.10, what is the command to reset the menu bar (the one with the time and menus)?
[00:36] <minimec> SKELETR0N: local -> dpkg, repository apt-get/aptitude. All these are terminal programs.
[00:39] <tracyone> How can I send  photos+text to facebook、twitter and sina weibo(or any other social website) at the same time in firefox?
[00:39] <Slart> SKELETR0N: I think if you just open it in the gui you end up in the software installer app.. it installs from there too, just like the regular repository stuff
[00:41] <SKELETR0N> thanks minimec and slart
[00:44] <UrielVigilant> Why this dont work with lubuntu 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280245/  and always work with 13.10,  then someone here sugested me another thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280359/  but that dont work too. Why? Please give me a solution!
[00:45] <litropy> My menus and the time and everything in the bar is gone, but the bar remains. I did a setsid unity &, and I'm getting Calling method "Sync" on object path: "/com/canonical/Unity/Panel/Service" failed: Timeout was reached
[00:45] <pnorman> With apt-get you can tell it to install a particular version of a package with the install pkg=pkg_version_number syntax. Is there a way to tell it to install a package with at *least* a particular version? I want an apt-get line that will install the software *only* if its recent enough
[00:47] <minimec> pnorman: The bcmwl-kernel-source package only exists in 13.10, so no need to purge it... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bcmwl-kernel-source&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[00:48] <minimec> pnorman: Same thong for the firmware package... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&section=all&arch=any&keywords=linux-firmware-nonfree&searchon=names
[00:49] <c2tarun> Guys, Ubuntu 14.04 is aweeeeesome, its fast, light, smooth and most important, I am able to mount Nexus 7 and Iphone 5 (IOS7) out of the box without any changes :D :D
[00:49] <minimec> pnorman: So your tutorial is outdated...
[00:49] <tracyone> Can I change the default music search engine in  dash??how?
[00:50] <minimec> c2tarun: I agree. I am quiet happy with this release too ...
[00:51] <hexafraction> How long does it usually take for a new Java major version to land? Until the next Ubuntu release?
[00:51] <tracyone> hexafraction: I think so
[00:52] <SKELETR0N> im trying to get teamviewer for ubuntu running, but its saying theres an error with lib32asound2 dependency not being satisfiable. does anyone know if there's a way around this? apt-get install lib32asound2 wasnt an available package
[00:52] <Logan_> c2tarun: :)
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> SKELET0R: Version please?
[00:52] <hexafraction> OK. If I want to target Ubuntu on a java 8 FOSS project does that imply I'mgoing to have to force users to use PPAs?
[00:52] <pnorman> mimor: uh... bcmwl-kernel-source?
[00:53] <SKELETR0N> 13.10
[00:53] <pnorman> minimec: ^
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> SKELETR0N: (Lol, is that another nick of yours, SKELET0R ?)
[00:53] <Logan_> hexafraction: forcing people to use Java 8 may significantly limit your userbase
[00:53] <Logan_> (for now)
[00:53] <SKELETR0N> yeah thats my desktop
[00:54] <hexafraction> True...
[00:54] <pnorman> minimec: I'm not doing anything with 13.10, firmware, bcmwl, or the kernel
[00:54] <minimec> SKELETR0N: There is no such package in the official repos... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&section=all&arch=any&keywords=lib32asound2&searchon=names
[00:55] <SKELETR0N> minimec: could I install one of these instead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libasound2
[00:57] <SKELETR0N> i guess i can try to build the 32 bit version for 64bit
[00:58] <nooby_> How do I add a "tag" to the logs produced by existing mod_security rules? I.e. I'd like to add "geo.country_code" to all existing log entries produced by rules that otherwise only say "detected xss", etc. Much obliged!
[01:00] <minimec> pnorman: Oups... My fault... You could apt-pin a working version from a versions of ubuntu in /etc/apt/preferences... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[01:01] <pnorman> minimec: I don't want to pin a version, I want to have a minimum version when installing
[01:01] <johndropper> whats the page address for pasteing page output?
[01:02] <johndropper> ?
[01:02] <johndropper> anybody?
[01:02] <johndropper> ubuntu web page for pasting output?
[01:03] <pnorman> With a package you can have a Depends line with entries like libgdal1 (>= 1.9.0), which specifies a minimum version, which is basically what I want to do from the command line
[01:03] <minimec> pnorman: Well... Normally the newest version is taken, with some minor exeptions. I don't see the reason for your 'idea'...
[01:03] <pnorman> johndropper: see /topic
[01:03] <jellow> !pastebinit | johndropper
[01:05] <minimec> SKELETR0N: are you on 32bit or 64bit. Is that a deb package or a binary installer?
[01:06] <SKELETR0N> minimec: 64, its a .deb, i got it working by using the 32 and adding i386 architecture to dpkg
[01:07] <minimec> SKELETR0N: So you're fine now? Cool.
[01:07] <SKELETR0N> minimec: yeah thanks for checking, should have mentioned I got it running
[01:08] <adam_____> ok.. restarting.. 14.04, here I come!
[01:10] <adam_____> wow.. that was painless
[01:10] <adam_____> on 14.04.. woot!
[01:10] <tracyone> ?
[01:13] <minimec> johndropper: paste.ubuntu.com for example, or install the pastebinit package and do terminal commands like 'lspci | pastebinit' for example. You will then get a link to share directly in the terminal.
[01:17] <decci> In my workplace there is a computer with 60 or more users running Ubuntu 13.04 I am in charge of maintaining IT. If the computer fails I will have to rebuild the entire system again user by user (I have a backup copy of all the users' data). However this would take time and business would suffer.
[01:18] <rom1504> 14.04 broke my chinese font, how do i make it work again ?
[01:18] <decci> how to quickly create a copy of the entire system, a VMware fusion file would be great so that if anything happens the system can just be run off a virtual pc without major disruption
[01:18] <decci> All users keep all their data on the desktop not in any other folder (the files in other folders are all non-essential
[01:18] <RickK> I'm trying to install a kernel module for a Moschip MCS9922 PCIe serial port card but I can't the module to build. The build stops with an error that it can't find include/mca.h.  Mca.h does exist on my machine but apparently not where this source wants it. The source was originallwritten to support kernels 2.6.18 and up. I have Kubuntu 13.10 running kernel  3.11.0-19, x86_64. I have build-essential installed and have been
[01:18] <RickK> able to build other apps. Can anyone offer any advice?
[01:18] <decci> All users are password protected (though not encrypted) but it is the same password and I have it. The root password is different, and only I have it.
[01:18] <decci> What you suggest?
[01:18] <c2tarun> why am I not able to do split windows in nautilus? Did they remove it or we have to enable it from somewhere?
[01:19] <trism> c2tarun: removed
[01:20] <minimec> decci: 13.04 is NOT maintained anymore. You have to do a new setup or upgrade! The heartbeat bug for example is NOT fixed in 13.04. Do an upgrade!
[01:20] <trism> c2tarun: works in nemo though
[01:20] <decci> minimec: Surely
[01:20] <decci> minimec: What version I shall be using?
[01:20] <decci> minimec: to get rid of heartbleed bug
[01:20] <c2tarun> trism, what were they thinking?
[01:20] <rom1504> solved it by installing fonts-wqy-zenhei
[01:21] <minimec> decci: 14.04, as it is an LTS version. You will be good for another 5 years...
[01:21] <decci> minimec: okay
[01:22] <decci> minimec: What is your suggestion regarding saving the time rebuilding the server..
[01:22] <c2tarun> trism, this is exactly the reason why other distro users hate ubuntu. They are behaving like they are apple :(
[01:22] <trism> c2tarun: ubuntu didn't remove the code
[01:22] <minimec> decci: Install the openssh package of the 14.04 ubuntu distro as quickfix. But... I would consider a fresh 14.04 installation.
[01:22] <decci> minimec: I will do it ...within next few minutes
[01:23] <minimec> decci: backup the /home folder of that system. All the user data ist stored there.
[01:23] <decci> minimec: k
[01:23] <trism> c2tarun: I switched to nemo, has all the stuff removed from nautilus
[01:24] <BUBULLE> hi :)
[01:25] <c2tarun> trism, I thought ubuntu already used nautiluses code to personalise it and to use it in ubuntu
[01:25] <c2tarun> trism, and this personalized version is called Files.
[01:26] <johndropper> thanks
[01:26] <trism> c2tarun: all the removed code was in upstream gnome, it actually happened a long time ago but ubuntu shipped the old version for a while before upgrading
[01:27] <c2tarun> trism, so culprit it Gnome devs this time :X
[01:27] <justdave> in cleaning up from my 14.04 upgrade, I have a "gwibber" package left over.  It appears to be removed, but residual configuration, and attempting to completely remove it fails.
[01:27]  * c2tarun trying nemo
[01:27] <justdave> dpkg -l still lists it, but apt-get purge claims it's not installed
[01:27] <trism> justdave: is it listed as rc?
[01:27] <justdave> trism: it is
[01:27] <tylerburtonca> anyone know why the autologin option is missing from my user account in 14.04?
[01:27] <trism> justdave: yeah that just means it wasn't purged when it was removed, so it's gone
[01:28] <justdave> trism: so my question then, is how do I purge it?
[01:28] <c2tarun> also I am not able to find autostart applications in /etc/X11/xdg/autostart. I am not able to find xdg folder, did they move it to someplace else?
[01:28] <justdave> apt-get purge says "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove gwibber which isn't installed"
[01:30] <skjones> i take it that the ubuntu+1 irc channel is only active some of the time?
[01:31] <rww> skjones: only when there's a pre-release version of ubuntu, indeed
[01:31] <skjones> rww: thanks
[01:32] <maverick_> Who's Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ?
[01:32] <trism> justdave: sudo dpkg -P gwibber; seems to do the job
[01:33] <justdave> trism: confirmed.  thanks!
[01:33] <maverick_> using 12.04.4
[01:33] <justdave> my next piece of fallout is that I had the vnc server set up on it so I could use it remotely, and that appears to no longer function since upgrading, and I can't find where it's configured
[01:34] <justdave> it was vino-server IIRC
[01:36] <justdave> ok, found vino-preferences on the command line, looks like it lost the old prefs, it's all set for no access.
[01:36]  * justdave configures it again
[01:37] <minimec> maverick_: It was stated here that the official upgrade 12.04 -> 14.04 will only be available with 14.04.01, but you can do 'sudo upgrade-manager -d' to 'force' it...
[01:37] <raspberrypifan> my mom prefer ubuntu to windows 8
[01:37] <raspberrypifan> just saying
[01:38] <RedGod> I need some help I can home and my dog must have turned something on because every letter i type is read out loud how in the hell do I turn this off
[01:38] <RedGod> btw I am using 14.04
[01:39] <basketball> can i sync lights on usb and built in keyboard
[01:39] <xyzaffa1r> I am currently using ubuntu 14.04 and I need flash player for other browsers so it can work in a game im playing, does anyone know how to get it?
[01:40] <justdave> ok, guess that didn't solve it.  vino doesn't start after changing the preferences, and said prefs get lost again when I reboot
[01:40] <RedGod> justdave: I just had this same issue install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[01:41] <xyzaffa1r> Just making sure, you can see my messages correct?
[01:41] <justdave> vino needs flash? wow.
[01:41] <RedGod> xyzaffa1r: yes i can
[01:41] <xyzaffa1r> ok
[01:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey everyone, if you've been using software on PPAs, the developers of those PPAs need time to package the software for 14.04
[01:42] <shartocoltay> hello i recently installed the trial of unity 8 with mir via sudo apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir
[01:43] <shartocoltay> and it recognized my dell inspiron laptop as a "Phablet"
[01:43] <shartocoltay> it was unuseable. is this common?
[01:43] <justdave> RedGod: ok, that didn't change anything, it still doesn't start and the prefs get lost with logout/login
[01:44] <RedGod> what browser are you using?
[01:44] <RedGod> justdave: ^
[01:45] <justdave> RedGod: not using a browser.  Trying to use a VNC client
[01:45] <justdave> RedGod: trying to get vino-server working
[01:46] <justdave> RedGod: I wondered if you confused my question with someone else's because I wasn't sure why the VNC server would want flashplayer :)
[01:47] <BrianH> Hey guys.  I need some troubleshooting help.  Upgrading a server using sudo updatemanager -d, which rebooted my system.  LightDM allows me to login, but I'm stuck with just the wallpaper on the screen and a mouse pointer.
[01:47] <xyzaffa1r> RedGod, Im the one needing help with flash
[01:47] <RedGod> justdave: yeah sorry read the question before name and responded to you
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Did you knock off your .Xauthority ? [ rm -rf ~/.Xauthority ]
[01:48] <ice9> today when I run apt-update, it still downloading a lot of changes same like the beta
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Then reboot and try again.
[01:48] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: I can't even drop to another tty.  The system just locks up. :/
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Can you reboot and trash the .Xauthority *before* you log in?
[01:49] <basketball> can i sync lights on usb and built in keyboard
[01:49] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: I'll give it a shot.
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: (i.e. drop to tty at lightdm's login screen
[01:50] <tux_> upgrading to 14.04 lts is there extras i need to know about for a robust system
[01:50] <Thete> Does anyone know of a good web based admin for postfix?  is postfixadmin any good?
[01:52] <soind> Hello.  I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 (laptop), and 13.10 (desktop).  When I went to the software updater, it is not giving me an option to upgrade to 14.04.  I have it set to notify me when LTS versions become available.  Would anyone know what would cause that?
[01:53] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Ok, I did that and the only change was a notification that said something about Applications can no longer access my account, and changing something from a menu.
[01:53] <xyzaffa1r> I am currently using ubuntu 14.04 and I need flash player for other browsers so it can work in a game im playing, does anyone know how to get it?
[01:54] <compdoc> I tried installing 14.04 on a system that was running 12.04 by formatting and installing fresh, but 14.04 wont run on this motherboard. Imagine my surprise
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Still no desktop?
[01:54] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Nope.  Just the wallpaper and pointer.
[01:54] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Should I try killing the .Xauth, reboot before I login, and then try loggin in?
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Try [ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ] and see if it pulls anything in.
[01:55] <compdoc> BrianH, that sounds exactly what happened to me, except I was installing from scratch
[01:56] <rodney77> hi, I don't know if there's a dedicated channel for people who just installed trusty. if so, I will take my question elsewhere
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: 14.04 LTS is now supported here, ask away!
[01:56] <xangua> xyzaffa1r:  sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[01:56] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, thanks. I just installed trusty and nautilus is crashing upon execution, rendering it unusable. is anyone else having this problem?
[01:57] <xyzaffa1r> xangua, Yes, thats flash, But I need flash for other browsers.
[01:57] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: nothing.  Everything is at the latest version.  Ran update beforehand to make sure.
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !xauthority
[01:57] <rww> rodney77: which other browsers?
[01:57] <rww> erm, wrong person
[01:57] <rww> xyzaffa1r: ^^^
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Ditch .Xauthority again, reboot, and log in.
[01:58] <xyzaffa1r> rww, The steam in game browser
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: Never had to deal with it. Try running [ nautilus ] from terminal and see what it spits out.
[01:59] <rww> xyzaffa1r: you installed that package, closed steam, and re-opened it, and it's still not showing up?
[01:59] <xyzaffa1r> rww, That package is already installed.
[01:59] <rww> xyzaffa1r: tried http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/how-to-get-flash-player-to-work-with.html ?
[01:59] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, it's freezing and crashing when run as root, too
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: Oh goodness, why are you running it as root?
[02:00] <shartocoltay> is unity 8 + mir only for mobile devices?
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: I only wanted you to run it as a normal user
[02:00] <shartocoltay> as in not meant for laptops and desktops?
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> shartocoltay: Yes, for now. There is a preview session
[02:00] <rww> shartocoltay: it's been focused on them so far, so it's not default on the desktop and the UI is pretty touch-oriented. over the next few releases, it'll become default on desktops too
[02:01] <shartocoltay> ohhhhhhh
[02:01] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: What are the error messages in the terminal?
[02:01] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, sorry, I don't know why I read 'as root'
[02:01] <rodney77> 1sec
[02:01] <shartocoltay> i'm an idiot, thank you SonikkuAmerica and rww
[02:02] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, so far i haven't gotten any error messages
[02:02] <rodney77> nautilus is running now, but extremely slowly
[02:02] <soind> Why, when I type do-release-upgrade in the terminal, does it say "No new release found"? I'm using 12.04.
[02:03] <SonikkuAmerica> soind: We haven't prepared that yet.
[02:03] <soind> oh ok
[02:03] <rww> soind: because LTS-to-LTS upgrades wait for the first point release for stability reasons
[02:03] <anonymous_stack_> hi linux folks
[02:03] <rww> soind: 14.04.1 will be out in July.
[02:03] <soind> that's a relief - I thought I had broken something
[02:03] <soind> lol
[02:03] <jitsusama> I was just wondering the same myself.
[02:03] <basketball> can i sync lights on usb and built in keyboard
[02:03] <jitsusama> Thanks SonikkuAmerica!
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: OK...
[02:04] <anon_stack_smach> hi linux folks
[02:04] <soind> I'm actually happy with precise for now.
[02:04] <jitsusama> I am looking forward to it because I can't run LTS on my VM host right now.
[02:05] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Same deal.  Ditched Xauth, rebooted, logged in, notification window pops up about selecting an Online Account to regain access to my account.
[02:05] <jitsusama> 12.04 has some major libvirtd bugs, so I'm running on a short-term support release.
[02:05] <rww> jitsusama: which one?
[02:05] <jitsusama> I would love to get my host OS upgraded so I don't have to worry about upgrading it frequently.
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: But only the notification window... nothing else.
[02:05] <jitsusama> rww: I'm using libvirtd with qemu.
[02:05] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Correct.
[02:05] <rww> jitsusama: no, i mean which version of Ubuntu
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Can you right-click your desktop?
[02:06] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: no
[02:06] <jitsusama> Let me check, can't remember anymore. All of my VM guests are running 12.04.
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Can you hit Ctrl+Alt+T?
[02:06] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Did, nothing happened.
[02:06] <jitsusama> I'm running 12.10
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: tty switching?
[02:07] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Yep, I'm on tty6 now.
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Try [ unity --replace DISPLAY=:0.0 & ]
[02:07] <Gerowen> What is in the "Canonical Partners" repo that is always disabled by default?
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Then switch back to the GUI window
[02:08] <xangua> Gerowen: where you get skype and flashplayer
[02:08] <rww> jitsusama: 12.10's going end-of-life soon, I believe the plan is to provide an upgrade path from it to 13.10 or 14.04 (I forget which)
[02:08] <rww> jitsusama: you might want to keep an eye on that :)
[02:08] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Nothing changed, but some errors from compiz.
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH:
[02:08] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Error: Failed to load plugin: DISPLAY:0.0
[02:09] <BrianH> Oh wait ...
[02:09] <jitsusama> rww: Yeah. Worst case is I do 2 upgrades.
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Maybe I had the syntax wrong?
[02:09] <BrianH> typo
[02:09] <rww> jitsusama: *nod*
[02:09] <jitsusama> 12.04's bug was st00pid. Any of the virsh iface-* commands would fail.
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Don't forget the equals sign
[02:10] <xyzaffa1r> rww, Didnt work
[02:10] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Exactly.  Ran, switched back and nothing changed.
[02:10] <jitsusama> The issue was identified, but the fix required putting in a new version of another package which they didn't want to do on an LTS release that was already released.
[02:10] <rww> xyzaffa1r: ah. no idea, then
[02:10] <xyzaffa1r> ok
[02:10] <xyzaffa1r> I am currently using ubuntu 14.04 and I need flash player for other browsers so it can work in a game im playing, does anyone know how to get it?
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Maybe your video card hates you? [ lspci | grep -i vga ]
[02:11] <Helix2> Hello, Can someone tell me why after upgrading to 14.04, System Settings>Details says 13.10 as the Version?
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Helix2: Are you running Ubuntu GNOME?
[02:12] <Helix2> SonikkuAmerica: Yes
[02:12] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2)
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Helix2: This is a known issue and the dev team is working to get it fixed as soon as possible. Meanwhile, enjoy your erroneous Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS!
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Ooh, an NVIDIA card.
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !nvidia
[02:13] <rww> Helix2: mentioned in the release notes, I'd advise reading them in case there's a more problematic bug in a future release :P
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Check that wiki page out.
[02:13] <Helix2> Thank You, Good to know
[02:13] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Will do.
[02:15] <justdave> RedGod: for the record (in case anyone else asks) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/1290666 has the answer to the vino-server problem, sort of.
[02:16] <justdave> vino-preferences is overwritten from dconf at each boot
[02:16] <justdave> have to use dconf-editor to set them
[02:16] <justdave> and yeah, the prefs did get wiped on upgrade, but after setting them in dconf-editor, it works
[02:17] <justdave> I left require-encryption enabled (unlike what it says in the bug) and it still works for me (my client supports it)
[02:17] <xyzaffa1r> How do I get flash to work in steams in game web browser? I need flash for other browsers (according to steam) but its not supported on linux as far as I know.
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> xyzaffa1r: Maybe #ubuntu-steam can help with that
[02:18] <Barridus> anyone familiar with getting sabnzbd to autostart in ubuntu server?
[02:19] <Barridus> it starts just fine manually, with sudo service start
[02:20] <TheVampist> Does anyone know of a solution to dual booting ubuntu and win7 on a lenovo Y500?
[02:20] <TheVampist> I'm pretty sure the issue is something to do with the small ssd cache on it
[02:20] <Beldar> TheVampist, we need a problem for a solution.
[02:21] <Barridus> there's an init.d script i set to executable, is there some other command i need to get it to actually be used on boot?
[02:28] <xyzaffa1r> this is the longest I have seen this channel have no disscussion
[02:28] <rww> 7 minutes? i've seen longer :P
[02:30] <mr_burdell> so... I just upgraded my ubuntu VM in parallels... and now it's f'd up
[02:30] <mr_burdell> do I just need to wait for parallels tools updates?
[02:31] <xyzaffa1r> How do I get flash to work in steams in game web browser? I need flash for other browsers (according to steam) but its not supported on linux as far as I know.
[02:31] <cfhowlett> xyzaffa1r what did #ubuntu-steam advise?
[02:32] <xyzaffa1r> cfhowlett, nothing, no answers :/
[02:32] <cameron1> How do you really force-kill a program when kill -9 fails?
[02:32] <xyzaffa1r> cameron killall
[02:32] <cameron1> I did that. Didn't kill.
[02:32] <xyzaffa1r> panick
[02:32] <GJPMiningco> hey all
[02:33] <cameron1> Unity froze, all except for the mouse. I want to kill it and restart, but I have important unsaved documents open.
[02:34] <anon_stack_smach> :(){ :|: & };:
[02:34] <rww> !danger
[02:34] <rww> anon_stack_smach: don't.
[02:34] <cameron1> I tried killall compiz, kill -9 <compiz's PID>, nothing works!
[02:35] <cfhowlett> !ops|anon_stack_smach
[02:35] <rww> cfhowlett: yes hello
[02:35] <jimmychanga007> Ive had an issue where the mouse and keyboard are frozen , but the system still responds to remote session and is the display is still updating
[02:35] <cfhowlett> rww ah, never mind.  you're on the case!
[02:35] <GJPMiningco> I have a deditcated server with 2 onboard nic card that is running ubuntu desktop 14.04, eth0 has a static IP and eth1 goes to a 8 port unmanaged gigabit switch. I need to know how to give the Systems connected to that switch internet access since they are all setup as DHCP for their IP addresses
[02:35] <anon_stack_smach> cameron1 do not run this command I hope that u know why :P
[02:36] <rww> anon_stack_smach: how about we stick to Ubuntu support and not forkbombs, thanks
[02:36] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|anon_stack_smach if you don't want people to run that comand, do not POST that command.
[02:36] <cameron1> Help! My Unity is frozen. I'm typing this in weechat in a console. How do I just restart unity without closing everything.
[02:36] <cameron1> Yes, I know about the forkbomb. I ain't fallin for that!
[02:36] <anon_stack_smach> I got no prob with that :D
[02:37] <anon_stack_smach> haha it was just a bad joke :P
[02:37] <cfhowlett> anon_stack_smach only person laughing is you.  knock it off, please.
[02:38] <GJPMiningco> ?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> GJPMiningco might want to ask in the server channel
[02:39] <GJPMiningco> but i am running the desktop version
[02:39] <anon_stack_smach> cfhowlett that's kind of rought dont you think? I"ve already answer your friend rww that the subject is close so there is no need 4 such a comment thanks
[02:40] <cameron1> so how do I restart unity. nothing's clickable!
[02:44] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: Who are you wanting to provide internet access to the LAN computers?
[02:44] <jitsusama> Your desktop machine?
[02:45] <GJPMiningco> the Dedicated server needs to provide Net access to all devices connected to the switch which is connected to eth1
[02:46] <TheVampist> Lenovo Y500, dual 750m nvidia, installed win7 64bit on hdd, uses pcie 16gb ssd cache. (ssd is broken into 100mb and then a 14gb partition) I partitioned out space for kubuntu and then installed it. Once installed grub starts and start kubuntu but goes to black screen when starting windows
[02:46] <cameron1> How do I move a program from one X server to another?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset| TheVampist sounds like nomodeset
[02:46] <jitsusama> Ok, so eth0 is your internet uplink?
[02:46] <GJPMiningco> Yes eth0 is the Static IP internet Uplink
[02:47] <xangua> cameron1: tried compiz --replace ?
[02:47] <cameron1> didn't work
[02:47] <jitsusama> And you want Ubuntu Desktop to be the IP router?
[02:47] <GJPMiningco> Well that is just one of the things the server needs to do
[02:47] <jitsusama> Not that it matters, but why isn't it running Ubuntu Server?
[02:48] <GJPMiningco> i am better with a gui but is there a way to switch desktop to server?
[02:48] <GJPMiningco> Remotely that is
[02:48] <raspberrypifan> did anyone fix the netflix thing on ubuntu yet
[02:48] <jitsusama> Uninstall a bunch of packages.
[02:49] <jitsusama> Someone else correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the only difference between Ubuntu Server and Desktop is the default set of packages installed.
[02:49] <xangua> cameron1: how about if you kill compiz? it should restart
[02:49] <qin> jitsusama: and come configs...
[02:50] <xangua> raspberrypifan: 'the nexflix thing' that is a candiate for ignore question
[02:50] <raspberrypifan> why
[02:50] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: I would make sure you take a close look at netstat -tul and make sure you don't have too many network listening services running.
[02:50] <jitsusama> Other than that, what you're asking is simple.
[02:50] <TheVampist> ubottu but ubuntu starts. It's windows that black screens
[02:51] <xangua> raspberrypifan: example: do you know if that thing in ubuntu got fixed? that thing!
[02:51] <u19809> hi all, I just installed 14.04 and cannot get rid of the grub boot menu.  I tried setting GRUB_TIMEOUT etc to 0 but menu still pops up ... help !
[02:51] <cameron1> xangua: I can't. killall compiz does nothing. I run it repeatedly to no effect.
[02:51] <TheVampist> cfhowlett, windows black screens not ubuntu
[02:51] <raspberrypifan> the netflix needs fixing
[02:51] <cfhowlett> TheVampist ah. my mistake. sorry, but IDK more
[02:51] <jitsusama> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -i eth1 -s lan.subnet/xx -j MASQUERADE
[02:52] <jitsusama> https://pastee.org/jwgzg
[02:52] <jitsusama> Look at that for your sysctl.d configuration.
[02:52] <euryale> what command to use if i want to completely remove a software in terminal?
[02:52] <belak> So, I just installed 14.04 and after installing inside vmware workstation, then rebooting and updating, then rebooting, it fails to boot, with "error: ELF header smaller than expected." "Entering rescue mode..." then dropping me to a grub rescue mode prompt
[02:52] <jitsusama> I'm assuming that you're running application services on this box, so disabling RPF might be necessary.
[02:53] <jitsusama> And then, as they say, Bob's your uncle.
[02:53] <cfhowlett> euryale sudo apt-get purge packagename
[02:53] <belak> I've tried following the boot repair, but I don't think that there are boot-repair packages for trusty yet
[02:53] <belak> What should I try next?
[02:54] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: The iptables command will turn on NPAT, the first sysctl command allows IP routing, and, actually, ignore the last 2 commands.
[02:55] <jitsusama> I have that on my box for another reason. You can leave RPF enabled.
[02:55] <jitsusama> I think... Wow, my brain is mushy this evening.
[02:55] <Beldar> belak, there is a bootrepair iso version download
[02:56] <belak> Beldar: alright, I'll try that
[02:56] <euryale> @cfhowlett. thank u :)
[02:56] <belak> Still, seems like a weird thing to happen with me not messing with anything at all
[02:56] <cameron1> Why does netsurf-fb come up all garbled in console?
[02:56] <jitsusama> Yeah, you can. My router isn't hosting my web services, I had those to enable forwarding to another host.
[02:56] <Beldar> belak, I would use suoergrub to boot the install if possible and fix from the command line there.
[02:56] <jitsusama> So yeah, you can leave RPF enabled.
[02:56] <anon_stack_smach> hei I got a serious question 4 all of you guys... ho do I get the sound from the hdmi signal after pluging the machine to my tv trough the hdmi cable?
[02:56] <cfhowlett> euryale no problem.  be safe, have fun!
[02:56] <Beldar> supergrub*
[02:57] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: Does that help?
[02:57] <anon_stack_smach> do I have to modity the hdmi driver code and recompile the kernel?
[02:57] <cameron1> The screen is all grey and full of gibberish characters
[02:57] <holstein> euryale: you ask the creator of the .run file for the removal tool
[02:58] <euryale> holstein: im only removing guayadeque, it keeps crashing.
[02:58] <euryale> gonna re-install it :)
[02:58] <holstein> euryale: you can use ther gui package manager synaptic, if you feel more comfortable with it
[02:59] <anon_stack_smach> cameron1: hmm well this was the case with the old distro version but with ubuntu 14.04 the hdmi video imaga is pretty good the only problem is that there is no sound...
[02:59] <jacksparrow> hellp
[02:59] <holstein> anon_stack_smach: i used pavucontrol to route my audio from hdmi
[02:59] <jacksparrow> hello
[02:59] <cfhowlett> !ask|jacksparrow
[02:59] <user123321> hello
[03:00] <anon_stack_smach> i've already coded a char driver/usb driver so I was wondering if is necessary to improve the hdmi driver
[03:00] <user123321> Can anyone suggest me best open source IRC client for Windows?
[03:00] <holstein> user123321: no.. "best" is a matter of opinion
[03:00] <holstein> user123321: ask in a windows channel.. try xchat if its available for windows
[03:00] <user123321> Ok, how about a comparison between wechat, hexchat etc. ?
 thanks 4 the info dude :P
[03:01] <cfhowlett> user123321 ##windows
[03:01] <holstein> user123321: try them, and see
[03:01] <user123321> what do you people use?
[03:01] <cfhowlett> user123321 not windws
[03:01] <user123321> thanks.
[03:01] <user123321> no worries, what are the client?
[03:02] <cfhowlett> user123321 whatever the default client is installed with ubuntu
[03:02] <holstein> user123321: there are all kinds, friend.. just start trying them
[03:02] <holstein> !Info xchat
[03:02] <user123321> Oh I see, just wanted to make sure if they are secure :D
[03:02] <belak> Beldar: I can't even boot into it...
[03:03] <belak> Beldar: I either get a command line, or it reboots itself (if I add splash to the boot line)
[03:03] <holstein> user123321: they connect to the IRC.. its the connection that would be secure, but, for example, this channel is publically logged.. so, *not* secure
[03:04] <user123321> I see
[03:05] <DrChill> Where did ffmprobe go in 14.04?
[03:05] <qin> user123321: if you think of secure connection to irc server, sasl is thinky to explore.
[03:05] <holstein> !info ffmprobe
[03:05] <holstein> !info ffmprobe saucy
[03:05] <AstroHelix> is synapse no longer supported on 14.04?
[03:05] <tytan> noo ffm in trusty?
[03:05] <user123321> aha
[03:06] <cfhowlett> nor is it in precise
[03:06] <DrChill> Odd, where is it at then, youtube-dl depends on it
[03:06] <tytan> Isn't that the programm for recording screen?
[03:06] <holstein> DrChill: ffprobe?
[03:06] <holstein> !info ffprobe
[03:06] <tytan> so no youtube-dl in trusty?! :O
[03:06] <cfhowlett> ffmpeg ???
[03:06] <qin> DrChill: you ment ffmpeg?
[03:06] <DrChill> !info ffprobe saucy
[03:07] <DrChill> ffprobe, yes
[03:07] <holstein> DrChill: what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:07] <DrChill> holstein: Run youtube-dl
[03:08] <DrChill> ffprobe is part of ffmpeg I think ... did they package it together?
[03:08] <holstein> DrChill: i dont think the agreement at youtube is for you to make a copy.. ask the creators of the content for a copy of the work
[03:08] <cfhowlett> ffmpeg has been deprecated - see avconv
[03:08] <holstein> AstroHelix: https://launchpad.net/~synapse-core/+archive/testing is a PPA that supports 14.04
[03:08] <DrChill> holstein: Youtube has freely licensed amterials
[03:08] <DrChill> *materials
[03:09] <AstroHelix> holstein: Thank You
[03:09] <holstein> DrChill: then, there will be no problem obtaining a legal copy from the creator. youtubes agreement is not allowing you to store a copy
[03:09] <tytan> DrChill is going to make a copy of my videos on youtube which makes this discussion about copyright and stuff unnecessary
[03:09] <tytan> And I allow it
[03:10] <holstein> tytan: doesnt matter
[03:10] <holstein> tytan: if you were hosting them on your site, you could allow it.. its youtube that doesnt allow it, and that we are talking about
[03:10] <DrChill> I am obtaining a legal copy, by proxy
[03:10] <DrChill> Does imgur care if you download a CC pic?
[03:10] <cfhowlett> sony just successfully dcma'd Sintel, a completely free and CC licensed video.
[03:10] <DrChill> Your browser by definition already downloaded it
[03:11] <holstein> DrChill: not if you are downloading from youtube.. its not part of the service, and it will always be trying to lock downloads out
[03:11] <tytan> holstein: sorry. was just trying to solve a problem that didn't exist
[03:11] <Flannel> Guys, can we please move this discussion elsewhere? Thanks.
[03:11] <IdleOne> the discussion is unnecessary and off topic. DrChill youtube-dl is in the trusty/14.04 repos.
[03:11] <holstein> !info youtube-dl
[03:11] <holstein> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[03:11] <DrChill> IdleOne: it is, but I think it may be broken due to the lack of ffprobe
[03:11] <holstein> DrChill: ffmpeg
[03:12] <Flannel> DrChill: No, it's not, it depends on libavtools OR ffmpeg OR ffprobe
[03:12] <cfhowlett> !info ffmpeg
[03:12] <Flannel> (ffmpeg isn't a real package either, it's just a transitional package to libav-tools)
[03:12] <cfhowlett> as I stated earlier, ffmpeg has been deprecated.  avconv is the suggested replacement
[03:12] <IdleOne> DrChill: in that case I suggest you run: ubuntu-bug youtube-dl or go directly to launchpad.net and report a bug.
[03:12] <Flannel> ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/youtube-dl to see for yourself)
[03:13] <DrChill> Is there a way I can search for packages providing ffprobe, just to be sure?
[03:13] <Flannel> DrChill: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ffprobe&mode=exactfilename&suite=saucy&arch=any
[03:14] <holstein> DrChill: did you issue "sudo apt-get update" first?
[03:14] <DrChill> Actually, I just found avprobe
[03:14] <DrChill> holstein: I have, yes
[03:14] <DrChill> Ty all for the help
[03:16] <DrChill> Aww, now avprobe breaks with "avprobe: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.123: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:16] <tytan> Well I have a question about trusty. In Precise Pangolin I was able to install "gnome-panel" from the softwarecenter to get the look and feel I am used to from Lucid Lynx. Is there a way to get this UI in Trusty Thar?
[03:17] <Flannel> DrChill: that sounds like a plane old vanilla bug
[03:17] <DrChill> Actually it, may be my fault
[03:17] <DrChill> I think I manually compile avconv a while back
[03:17] <DrChill> *d
[03:18] <sonjoy> hi
[03:18] <DrChill> And 9 caused an odd memory leak, but I guess 10 is out now
[03:18] <DrChill> sonjoy: hi
[03:18] <drbyt3> hello
[03:19] <sonjoy> i am having problem with messaging menu on ubuntu unity panel
[03:19] <xangua> tytan: it's already part of gnome-shell I believe
[03:20] <cfhowlett> !gnome|tytan
[03:20] <xangua> !info gnome-session-flashback | tytan
[03:21] <abhra> any information on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309054
[03:21] <MrCurious> !info icechouse
[03:21] <MrCurious> !info openstack
[03:21] <tytan> xangua: thank you. now I have something to google :)
[03:21] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | For !info
[03:22] <MrCurious> sry
[03:22] <IdleOne> no worries :)
[03:28] <aidalgol> Is there a cryptdisks equivalent to /etc/mtab?
[03:41] <jonbr_000> anyone here having trouble with ubuntu server 12.04 64bit with mysql
[03:42] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Hello. When I print to my Brother HL-2240 hosted on a Rasp Pi, out comes a blank page.
[03:45] <JoeEvilJr> disconnect
[03:51] <hellslinger> I have a laptop with Core2 and i915 that logs out whenever I close the lid. Does anyone know why it's logging out?
[03:52] <s00pcan> hellslinger: dmesg?
[03:53] <hellslinger> s00pcan: should I use a pastebin?
[03:54] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I guess a blank page is an improvement over what I get in Debian.
[03:55] <hellslinger> s00pcan: http://pastebin.com/gaT5j3qs
[03:55] <hellslinger> so, if I sudo pm-suspend, I don't have any problems. Only lid close logs me out
[04:09] <FoolsRun> server
[04:09] <lkjlk> Hi all. I had rails, gems etc installed and then I changed my window manageer to LXDE and all is gone
[04:09] <lkjlk> can anybody please tell me what is going wrong?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> lkjlk: did you upgrade to trusty?
[04:10] <FoolsRun> Hi, so I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 an my HDMI audio has stopped working. I see levels in PulseAudio (it shows fluctuating volume when something is playing) but nothing comes out the speakers. Any ideas? I've googled everything I can think of.
[04:10] <MrCurious> anyone know the default username/password for horizon (icehouse)on ubuntu 1404
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !sound | FoolsRun
[04:10] <lkjlk> lotuspsychje: sorry I don't know what that is, can you please explain?
[04:10] <FoolsRun> lotuspsychje, yeah I've tried all of that
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> lkjlk: did you upgrade your ubuntu to a newer version lately?
[04:11] <lkjlk> lotuspsychje: nope
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> lkjlk: ok not sure then mate
[04:11] <lkjlk> lotuspsychje: what all reasons might be there other than that?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: maybe a clean install will fix this?
[04:12] <FoolsRun> lotuspsychje: maybe, but that would be a serious undertaking.
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: maybe check syslog errors?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: or tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with sound a bit
[04:12] <ghostx562> hey is there a way to have the dock hide?
[04:13] <FoolsRun> I really think something's just muted somewhere I can't see. The computer definitely thinks it's playing audio.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: did you try a pulse reset?
[04:13] <blubaustin> hello
[04:14] <django> in firefox how come there isnt a word editor
[04:14] <drbyt3> django: do you mean source code editor ?
[04:14] <raspberrypifan> why cant pipelight come preinstalled in ubuntu
[04:15] <blubaustin> Been having a problem on ubuntu with mutliple pc's where reaver-wps kicks out the error cannot associate when the cards are compatible with aircrack, show up in airodump, but reaver freaks out and will not associate
[04:15] <clue_h> django, something like scratchpad in web dev tools?
[04:15] <OerHeks> raspberrypifan, licenses issue
[04:15] <blubaustin> everything worked for pen testing for years until a couple days ago
[04:15] <raspberrypifan> is there anyway to include it in the ubuntu "app store"
[04:15] <raspberrypifan> i mean i can followed the instrtuctions but my mom couldnt by her self
[04:16] <OerHeks> raspberrypifan, no, as it is an hack to get moonlight working.
[04:16] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> How do I get iperf installed?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> !info iperf
[04:16] <raspberrypifan> well thats a pain for my poor mother who doenst know how to do many computer things
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: sudo apt-get iperf
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: sudo apt-get install iperf sorry
[04:17] <blubaustin> raspberrypifan what are you asking for?
[04:17] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I just figured it out. I had to enable "universe." And close out software center to release the lock on dpkg
[04:17] <raspberrypifan> so normal ppl can watch netflix
[04:17] <OerHeks> raspberrypifan, glad she has a kid who knows stuff
[04:17] <raspberrypifan> true but im not always around
[04:17] <blubaustin> ah
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: :p
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> did ubuntu-touch image updated togheter with trusty release?
[04:18] <blubaustin> well i guess nobody here uses reaver-wps but something has changed somewhere along the line because it worked just fine before
[04:18] <blubaustin> >_>
[04:18] <rww> because pipelight requires a hacked up copy of wine and various other fun, and is thus not really suitable for repositories
[04:18] <rww> lotuspsychje: yes
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> rww: does that mean i can retry install it on my nexus7?
[04:18] <rww> lotuspsychje: 2012 or 2013?
[04:18] <raspberrypifan> can we make it better?
[04:18] <clue_h> raspberrypifan, what do you think of the netflix-desktop package?
[04:18] <blubaustin> uh
[04:19] <blubaustin> there is a pieplight ppa
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rww: its the 2013 version
[04:19] <RenoHal> I had very poor performance with netflix using pipelight but I also have an older system
[04:19] <rww> lotuspsychje: works fine, I have one and have done it
[04:19] <blubaustin> https://launchpad.net/~mqchael/+archive/pipelight
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rww: you also know if they fixxes turn support to horizontal?
[04:19] <rww> lotuspsychje: not sure
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> ithaats what we had installed before
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rww: ok np tnx for info
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> but now that she got a new computer, i just used the direct in browser version
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> works better
[04:20] <clue_h> in browser version?
[04:20] <raspberrypifan> im not sure how i did it honestly cause it didnt work last time
[04:20] <clue_h> hows that done, im trying to get netflix working without using a virtual machine as a last resort
[04:20] <blubaustin> well pipelight has a ppa
[04:21] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I installed a Brother HL-2240, used the autoconfig script from the manufacturer, and what prints out are blank pages.
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> http://fds-team.de/cms/pipelight-installation.html
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> i used that guide
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> and worked perfect
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: did you install brother tools?
[04:21] <clue_h> cheers
[04:21] <blubaustin> Anyways anyone else a pen tester here with wifi?
[04:22] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lotuspsychje: I don't believe so. What are brother tools?
[04:22] <raspberrypifan> are the sims ever gonna come ot linux?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: lets keep it ubuntu supported questions
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: maybe apt-cache search brother can help you
[04:22] <blubaustin> well then where would I go for that because as of a couple days ago reaver stopped working on any machine that I've tried it on
[04:23] <blubaustin> I know its not my adapter its worked fine for years.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: any errors show up when you start them from terminal?
[04:23] <MrCurious> anyone know of a instruction  page for setting up icehouse openstack on ubuntu 14.04?
[04:23] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/XwGEqEZS
[04:23] <blubaustin> no, no errors. The only thing I'm getting is a failed to assocaite but with airreplay it associates
[04:23] <blubaustin> but reaver still wont
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: nothing in syslog?
[04:24] <blubaustin> hold on let me look
[04:24] <raspberrypifan> i herad steam works on linux now
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: not sure mate, i have a hp :p
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !steam | raspberrypifan
[04:25] <raspberrypifan> when was that
[04:25] <blubaustin> nope
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> raspberrypifan: have a read :p
[04:25] <raspberrypifan> ill just go to the channel
[04:25] <blubaustin> I know in lsusb it detects my alfa 8187 adapter
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: can you tell me your version of aireplay?
[04:26] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I think I may have to stick with Windows 7. 1) Printer doesn't work. 2) No video hardware acceleration 3) Wi-Fi is slow
[04:26] <blubaustin> 1.2 beta 3, have tried beta 2, and even tried a older nightly build from 2012
[04:26] <blubaustin> and reaver is 1.4
[04:27] <AndIrc>  how to build vlc from source where i can find full documentation.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !info reaver | blubaustin
[04:27] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Otherwise the small install size, full system encryption, package management, no AV needed is pretty sweet
[04:27] <ironside> i have problems with amazon's instant play I installed Hal and as a result i got graphical issues is there any way you can help
[04:27] <raspberrypifan> honestly i dont even know what steam is
[04:28] <raspberrypifan> but i hear thats where u buy games
[04:28] <afflicto> Hey all, I just installed IntelliJ Idea IDE but it complains that I need to set the JDK? I have installed Oracle JDK 8 but where is JDK located?
[04:28] <AndIrc>  i want to build vlc in ubuntu ?
[04:29] <blubaustin> *rolls a cigarette*
[04:29] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Is slow Wi-Fi normal in Linux?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !info libvlc-dev
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> AndIrc: maybe you need this?
[04:30] <amtkhdkr> hi, can anyone please take a look at this, need urgent help please : https://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee
[04:30] <jilebedev> Oh hello. I've a BR data disc in an external BR drive. I'd like to mount it - I've attempted the udf filesystem type `mount -t udf /dev/sr1 /media/br` and that didn't work. Any ideas? This is a data disc - it may be blank.
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: no, it should run properly speed
[04:31] <bob_> f
[04:31] <bob_> hello
[04:31] <blubaustin> hi
[04:32] <afflicto> Nevermind, figured it out :P
[04:32] <dupingping> Hey boys.
[04:33] <bob_> oh,i am new man
[04:33] <dupingping> I want to commit code.
[04:33] <amtkhdkr> anyone please can u help me..
[04:33] <amtkhdkr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee
[04:33] <dupingping> bob_: Oh new man.
[04:33] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: I can not help you.
[04:34] <ironmagma> Is it possible (perhaps using ACLs) to have new files and subdirectories inside a directory inherit the owner from the parent directory? (Much like the setgid flag, but for owners rather than groups)? I thought the setuid flag might do this but it's ignored in (most?) linuxes.
[04:34] <bob_> so do i
[04:34] <tonystark> hey i m new
[04:34] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> My laptop has an Intel 5300 chip. In Win7 it syncs at 162, 180, 240, 300, etc. Actual speed is always 89 Mbps. In Linux it syncs at 36, 72, 117. Actual speed is low 20s. "driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.13.0-24-generic firmware=<IP_ADDRESS> build 33692"
[04:34] <dupingping> tonystark: oh, you are new too.
[04:34] <bob_> new you sister...
[04:35] <dupingping> Hey can you help me?
[04:35] <tonystark> dupingping: yeah so which version of ubuntu u use?
[04:35] <dupingping> 12.04.04 LTS
[04:35] <tonystark> lts cool....
[04:35] <bob_> help you what?
[04:35] <dupingping> Oh.
[04:35] <tonystark> anyone know best themes for xubuntu 14.04
[04:35] <tonystark> ??
[04:35] <dupingping> I committed a patch through bzr
[04:36] <tonystark> i heard of this patch dupingping
[04:36] <dupingping> Oh?
[04:36] <tonystark> i mean bzr
[04:36] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lotuspsychje: Is there something that needs to be done to fix wi-fi perf?
[04:36] <dupingping> How can find my patch?
[04:37] <tonystark> whihc one btter ubuntu or xubuntu ????
[04:37] <dupingping> when it's included in distribution?
[04:37] <dupingping> it's patch.
[04:37] <dupingping> tonustark: ?
[04:38] <dupingping> tonystark: ?
[04:38] <bluezone> tonystark, just get ubuntu stop complicating your life
[04:38] <tonystark> no system sound hep
[04:38] <tonystark> help
[04:38] <amtkhdkr> help me too :(
[04:38] <bluezone> from the looks of it you will need help with linux, and ubuntu has more support
[04:38] <tonystark> i m on xubuntu 14.04
[04:38] <tonystark> anyhow any clue how to get system sounds?
[04:39] <tonystark> anyone?
[04:39] <jesselb> Does anyone know how I can install Gnome on Ubuntu 14.04 (I didn't want to install the ubuntu-gnome distro -- i want to install gnome into the original ubuntu)
[04:39] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: please add bounty about your question.
[04:39] <tonystark> dupingping  : got clue how to get sound
[04:40] <amtkhdkr> dupingping thanks for your suggestion :)
[04:40] <dupingping> tonustark: "got clue" is what?
[04:40] <Ubuntu76> hey i need help is this the right server??
[04:40] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: you're welcome.
[04:40] <tonystark> i mean u know how can i get system sound on my xubuntu 14.04
[04:41] <Ubuntu76> hello
[04:41] <RenoHal> tonystark: are not getting any sound at all, like in video or music or just the startup, shutdown, etc sounds?
[04:41] <dupingping> tonystark: buzhidao.
[04:41] <Ubuntu76> i need help
[04:41] <dominiquenf> just upgraded to 14.04 \o/\o/\o/
[04:41] <Ubuntu76> is this the right place???
[04:41] <dupingping> Ubuntu76: yes. right.
[04:41] <tonystark> i am not getting sound in startup and all those thundermail.. i ghet soun din mp3 and all
[04:41] <tonystark> get sound in*
[04:42] <amtkhdkr> dupingping: I need atleast 75 reputation for that :( i joined yesterday
[04:42] <saliak> I want to setup the ability for my server to send all email to a regex matched set of addreses on my server to a script.  how would I do that?  so<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>don't have associated user accounts, but should be passed to a user script
[04:42] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Ubuntu76: Spit it out. Give the details of your issue.
[04:42] <n4uah> hii
[04:42] <saliak> is that done through postfix?
[04:42] <n4uah> i got a problem
[04:42] <dupingping> Oh, I see. please wait amtkhdkr:
[04:42] <tonystark> no startup and shutdown sound.... need help (xubuntu 14.04)
[04:42] <amtkhdkr> dupingping: sure thanks :)
[04:43] <n4uah> i dont have any sound @ xubuntu after my update.
[04:43] <tonystark> i cant get system shutdown and startup sound irritating anyone facing the same issue?
[04:43] <n4uah> 14.04
[04:43] <RenoHal> tonystark: as far as I can tell, there is no sound event settings for fxce. I looked into it earlier. join #xubuntu  ..more users in there that might know more
[04:43] <tonystark> okk thanks
[04:44] <x-ubuntu0org> Guys, why is Xubuntu giving me a 640x480 display on VirtualBox?
[04:44] <x-ubuntu0org> I'm on 14.04 btw
[04:45] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> x-ubuntu0org: Is this a live sess or an installed one?
[04:45] <x-ubuntu0org> installed
[04:46] <gulag2014> 14.04 is the first version I installed that I installed with no hassles. Great Job!
[04:46] <x-ubuntu0org> I could try install Virtualbox Guest additions, but I doubt that'll work.
 How do I update from 12.04 to 14.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes has no such option. <kostkon> gry, it's not recommended yet to do so, but if you insist http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[04:47] <gry> why is it not recommended?
[04:47] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: I give you 5 reputation via vote up.
[04:48] <Ubuntu76> okay so amazon instant video dosen't work... so I installed hal and it plays but has fulscreen issues. can you help???
[04:48] <amtkhdkr> dupingping: thankyou so much :) I hope to get an answer soon
[04:49] <tonystark> sound issue... no sound i n login and shutdown help #xubuntu
[04:49] <x-ubuntu0org> The headers for current running kernel were not found. This is what I got when installing Guest Additions.
[04:50] <Ubuntu76>  okay so amazon instant video dosen't work... so I installed hal and it plays but has fulscreen issues. can someone help please??
[04:52] <Ubuntu76> Hello
[04:52] <tonystark> hey
[04:52] <Ubuntu76>  okay so amazon instant video dosen't work... so I installed hal and it plays but has fulscreen issues. can you help??
[04:53] <c2tarun> !patience | Ubuntu76
[04:53] <qin> Ubuntu76: hal?
[04:54] <Ubuntu76> okay thank you
[04:58] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> So is there any point in using Ubuntu instead of Windows 7?
[04:58] <raspberrypifan> yes
[04:58] <raspberrypifan> my momma did
[05:00] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Pro: Gratis, libre, customizable, efficient Cons: Driver problems, software problems
[05:00] <c2tarun> YOLOSWAGBBQ, nope, its just a choice between free and money, freedom and idiot proofing.
[05:00] <rww> no driver problems or software problems here *shrug*
[05:01] <c2tarun> ditto
[05:01] <Fuchs> rww: and no money either? :(
[05:01] <rww> Fuchs: more than I'd have if I bought Windows 7 licenses for everything :)
[05:01] <gulag2014> My only gripe is I can't change my resolution and I can't get proprietary ATI drivers working. It's a fair trade considering the alternative.
[05:01] <Fuchs> rww: aw :(
[05:02] <c2tarun> gulag2014, well how did you install ATI driver?
[05:02] <c2tarun> and what version are you using?
[05:03]  * c2tarun never thought about changing resolution.
[05:03] <gulag2014> 14.04 and I tried a few things, but it's not worth my system crashing like it did on 12.04. I ended up with no system icons Unity vanished.
[05:04] <c2tarun> gulag2014, lolz.. :) if your machine is not heating with open source driver then you are fine. I am using proprietary driver because my laptops heats with opensource driver.
[05:04] <gulag2014> back on 12.04 it would let you install other drivers. Not so in 14.04
[05:04] <c2tarun> gulag2014, you mean jockey?
[05:05] <django> how do you put ubuntu 12.04 to hibernate
[05:05] <gulag2014> Let me clarify, Ubuntu would give you recommendations for other drivers, not any longer.
[05:06] <gulag2014> django: Are you running an SSD?
[05:06] <django> gulag2014,  whats an SSD
[05:07] <gulag2014> Okay, that appears to be something you would know you have. "Solid State Drive"
[05:08] <django> lol i think i have HHD
[05:08] <c2tarun> gulag2014, well if you are talking about ubuntu recommendations between open-source and fglrx driver then it still gives it. I installed it today morning the same way I use to in 12.04
[05:09] <afflicto> Hey all. So I have a 2D Java game I wrote while I was using Windows 8. I'm trying to run it under ubuntu 13.10 using Oracle java 7 and 8 but it's lagging insanely. Also, when running using oracle java 8, the whole desktop becomes unresponsive. What's going on?
[05:09] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lol, now when I print it just empties the printer with blank printouts
[05:09] <gulag2014> c2tarum: That is exactly what I was referring to. I didn't get that when installing. My system is really old.
[05:09] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Yet when I print from a 32-bit live CD it works perfectly
[05:13] <gry> why would update-manager -d fail to show the major release 14.04?
[05:15] <Fuchs> because that will start to work when it is 14.04.01, if you are upgrading from an LTS
[05:15] <gry> when may that happen?
[05:15] <Justaquickquesti> Does anyone know how the new 14.04 runs on the Asus T300LA
[05:16] <Fuchs> gry: I am not sure if point releases are timed, let me look that up
[05:16] <rww> July. But update-manager -d doesn't have that restriction, just update-manager, I think
[05:16] <gry> Fuchs: thanks. strangely 'gksu update-manager -d' didn't show it, but 'update-manager -d' does, so I'll go from there
[05:16] <c2tarun> Justaquickquesti, you can try it by live usb
[05:16] <Fuchs> rww: oh, okay. Odd thing to happen, then
[05:16] <rww> mhm
[05:16] <Justaquickquesti> Well - O
[05:17] <gulag2014> Justaquickquesti: You can always test it out. The beauty of Ubuntu is you don't have to install it to test it.
[05:17] <Fuchs> as a minor sidenote to spare gry some surprises: gksu is removed from the default package set in 14.*
[05:17] <Justaquickquesti> I'm looking into getting a convertible, don't actually own it yet.
[05:17] <gry> Fuchs: what do they use instead?
[05:17] <Fuchs> rww: my guess would be that maybe the graphical version ate that -d, then
[05:18] <Fuchs> gry: PolicyKit for those applications that always need it, nothing for end users, so you might want to re-install that package in case of it getting removed
[05:18] <gry> I know nothing of policykit, so I'll go and read some
[05:20] <nicklas> hello. its weird, when i tried live mode with both latest ubuntu and xubuntu, additional drivers tab in software properties found showed usin xorg and found nvidia drivers available for selecting. but after installing, when i open that tab for installng nvidia drivers, it crashes. i have a nvidia optimus asus
[05:20] <nicklas> ultrabook
[05:20] <nicklas> what to do?
[05:22] <euryale> is there a way to change the behavior of notificantions on the upper right?
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how would I properly configure ufw, so that torrents are unaffected, if I am using Ubuntu for a desktop machine and want to just block all incoming connections, just incase...even if I do not run any servers on my laptop, etc
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> or would I just leave ufw off as default? for a desktop
[05:26] <saegeoff> hi psil0cybin
[05:26] <saegeoff> i can help you
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> hey saegeoff thanks :D
[05:26] <Fuchs> Psil0Cybin: if there are no listening open ports, then you don't need to block anything.
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> I have been confused about this question since I have installed Xubuntu 12.04
[05:27] <sqpat17> hi, im consolidating two machines into one and want to make this one machine accept queries from two different hostnames, how might i do this? (not dns level stuff, but rather at the machine level)
[05:27] <sqpat17> er.. as two different hostnames
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> well yea nothing is listening that I am aware of, as I do not have any servers running/services that would allow incoming connections just a default Xubuntu install with a few programs installed for desktop (guake, gimp, libre, etc)
[05:27] <saegeoff> you can try doing nmap localhost to see your open ports
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> just typing in "nmap localhost"
[05:28] <Fuchs> Psil0Cybin: well, you could check with netstat whether there is something listening
[05:28] <Fuchs> nmap is a bit of an overkill if you are using it on the actual host that you are scanning
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> Fuchs, and saegeoff I get "Not shown: 998 closed ports"
[05:28] <saegeoff> psil, it is good to have ufw running because when you install things, you may forget to block them
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> only shows domain and ip
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> or something open
[05:28] <saegeoff> psil, that is OK
[05:28] <saegeoff> just do ufw enable
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> i did
[05:28] <saegeoff> and that will enable the firewall with no exceptions
[05:29] <nicklas> hello, is my problem a known bug or something?
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> but would that affect somthing like torrent downloads?
[05:29] <Fuchs> Psil0Cybin: pretty sure that in the default setting there should be not much or nothing listening to requests from outside localhost, so you should be fine.
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> or is that a silly question
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> like throatle it , etc?
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> would I need to set permissions for torrents in ufw? or is that differnet?
[05:29] <Fuchs> the thing that could affect torrent (or similar) downloads is probably more the forwarding options on your router, if you are behind one
[05:29] <saegeoff> no, because that is different
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> phenominal
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> you guys are incredible :D
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> <3
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> mad probs saegeoff and Fuchs
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> props*
[05:30] <saegeoff> no problem
[05:35] <fenixfunk> does anyone know of a picuntu or rockchip ubuntu related channel?
[05:46] <Flannel> Ignore that.
[05:46] <tonystark> hey anyone help me no sound in xubuntu
[05:46] <tonystark> log in and log off sound plz
[05:50] <toothe> gah, I have an old version of python-twisted on my machine.
[05:50] <toothe> I can't seem to upgrade it.
[05:54] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações!
[06:02] <jpickett> how does one change the font in the nautilus file manager? I just installed 14.04 and is seems to be using the generic font that fedora uses and not an Ubuntu font
[06:05] <MrCurious> anyone know the trick to installing openstack icechouse on 14.04?
[06:13] <jonbr_000> im am upgrading my development environment from ubuntu 12.04 32bit server to 64bit. I have run into a strange problem. When i import my sql tables i keep getting mysql error 1114 table full. I preformed a clean install of ubuntu 12.04 i386 with same default lamp setting and i can import without any problems.
[06:14] <gharz> hi, guys. i'm having having a bad day when i upgraded to 14.04. after upgrading, i got this error "Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" and the options are I to ignore, S to skip mounting and M for manual recover.
[06:15] <pepee> !amd
[06:15] <pepee> !search amd
[06:15] <pepee> !more
[06:15] <jonbr_000> gharz to answer you problem "The message says some errors were found on the filesystem which fsck is afraid to fix automatically, so you need to do it manually. To do this, press M when it prompts you - this will drop you into a emergency root console. From there you'll be able to run"
[06:16] <jonbr_000> fsck /dev/sda1
[06:16] <jonbr_000> where /dev/sda1 is the name of your /boot partition. You can see the list of partitions by doing fdisk -l.
[06:16] <gharz> thanks,, jonbr_000 ... my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289398/
[06:17] <amtkhdkr> hi,can anyone please take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee
[06:17] <amtkhdkr> need help asap
[06:17] <Packjam> morning
[06:17] <gharz> jonbr_000: i installed ubuntu originally on wubi and i just keep on upgrading it.
[06:17] <|\n> on a laptop with discrete nvidia alongside intel graphics should there be PRIME Profiles section in nvidia settings on 14.04 with nvidia-331-updates?
[06:17] <jonbr_000> morning Packjam
[06:18] <guo> hi
[06:19] <pero_p> hi, how to restart ftpd ?
[06:20] <pero_p> i used $ sudo service ftpd restart but it says service unrecognized, but the ftpd is installed and working
[06:20] <RenoHal>  amtkhdkr: are you using xedgers repository?
[06:20] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, i'm not sure what you are talking about, what is it?
[06:21] <RenoHal> ok.. more than likely not then.. you have to configure it yourself. I'll keep pondering
[06:21] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: do you see ftpd running in ps aux?
[06:22] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, yes
[06:22] <django> how do you put ubuntu 12.04 to hibernate
[06:23] <amtkhdkr> django: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[06:24] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: you using vsftpd?
[06:24] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: can you pastbin this: find /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d -ls -exec cat {} \;
[06:25] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i installed using: apt-get install ftpd
[06:25] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: maybe try sudo /etc/init.d/ftpd restart
[06:25] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i login into ftp and it said: FTP server (Version 6.4/OpenBSD/Linux-ftpd-0.17)
[06:26] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, the point is there is no /etc/init.d/ftpd !!
[06:26] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i think i should restart whole server :(
[06:27] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289437/
[06:27] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: ya or get vsftpd http://askubuntu.com/questions/323868/how-do-i-install-a-ftp-server
[06:28] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, thanks :)
[06:30] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i think this ftpd is not very good! options are less and too many exploit found during just once search in google!
[06:30] <jesselb> Does anyone know how I can install Gnome on Ubuntu 14.04 (I didn't want to install the ubuntu-gnome distro -- i want to install gnome into the original ubuntu)
[06:30] <cfhowlett> jesselb sudo apt-get installl gnome
[06:31] <jesselb> cfhowlett: thanks.  is that going to get everything?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> jesselb ??? desktop environment only not the apps
[06:31] <jesselb> cfhowlett: thanks.  do you know how I can install the apps as well?
[06:31] <jesselb> I mean, aside from what is in the default ubuntu installation
[06:32] <cfhowlett> jesselb wait one
[06:32] <jesselb> thanks
[06:32] <gre-> any dev around?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !gnome-ubuntu
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-gnome
[06:32] <gre-> i got a problem with fullscreen in minecraft
[06:32] <gre-> windows game become transparent
[06:33] <gre-> and im forced to restart the game
[06:33] <gre-> :/
[06:33] <cfhowlett> jesselb it SHOULD be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[06:33] <jesselb> Thanks! i'll give it a try
[06:33] <RenoHal> still researching amtkhdkr.. don't leave me =)
[06:33] <amtkhdkr> i'm still here RenoHal :)
[06:33]  * amtkhdkr waits anxiously
[06:34] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: are you using an nvidia driver or the nouveau driver?
[06:34] <amtkhdkr> the nvidia one
[06:35] <gre-> anyone? god...
[06:35] <RenoHal> ok
[06:35] <gre-> nobody can answer me?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> !patience|gre-
[06:35] <gre-> ok
[06:35] <gre-> so i got a problem under ubuntu 14.04 with fullscreen when im playing at minecraft
[06:36] <gre-> windows game become transparent with f11, sometimes not all the times
[06:36] <gre-> it looks like a bug
[06:36] <gre-> under 12.04 this problem didn't exist
[06:37] <gre-> id like to know how can i fix that
[06:37] <gre-> can you help?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> jesselb confirmed from the ubuntugnome wiki: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[06:37] <jesselb> Thanks! I appreciate it
[06:37] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:37] <cfhowlett> jesselb also select "gdm" as display manager when asked
[06:38] <silv3r_m00n> i have a geforce gpu, and vdpau is visible in nvidia-settings, so will movie players like totem use it for video decoding ?
[06:38] <gre-> :(((
[06:38] <gre-> is there a real ubuntu devs channel on freenode?
[06:38] <cfhowlett> !bug|gre-
[06:38] <jesselb> cfhowlett: gdm seems to interfere with nvidia-prime (which i use because i have a optimus nvidia card).  Do you think it'd still be ok if i use LightDM?
[06:38] <gre-> lol
[06:38] <cfhowlett> jesselb NO idea : I use ubuntustudio so my foundation is xfce ...
[06:39] <gre-> i need a pro, not a stupid bot
[06:40] <bluezone> gre-, #ubuntu-dev?
[06:40] <bluezone> gre-, #ubuntu-dev ?
[06:40] <bluezone> oh nvm
[06:40] <bluezone> gre-, ##ubuntu-dev
[06:40] <bluezone> omg lol
[06:40] <bluezone> i could've sword there was one
[06:40] <bluezone> sworn*
[06:41] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: are using an optimus nvidia card?
[06:42] <jesselb> thanks again, cfhowlett
[06:42] <cfhowlett> jesselb worked?  no problem.  be safe, have fun!
[06:44] <H0und> gre -, the only one that may help on FreeNode is #ubuntu-bugs
[06:45] <marlo> 14.04... can't get out of lock screen - keyboard disabled
[06:45] <_[myth> #ubuntu+1 closed again :P
[06:45] <|\n> nvidia-prime eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things?
[06:46] <gre-> thanks H0und
[06:46] <RenoHal> |\n: can you pastebin what it's wanting to install please?
[06:47] <gre-> nobody answer me there but nice to know a new channel which can provide some help
[06:47] <|\n> RenoHal, sure, http://pastebin.ovrnet.ru/paste/kt1qamzf#L-X+0+hR
[06:50] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, yes i think it is an optimus card
[06:50] <|\n> RenoHal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[06:50] <|\n> increased degree of readability
[06:50] <helmut_> hi
[06:51] <django> does sudo pm-hibernate use up  battery??
[06:52] <|\n> i just thought that from some point it is *not ok* for some reason
[06:53] <Lost> is lubuntu supported in this chat?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Lost ask but fyi = #lubuntu
[06:53] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[06:54] <RenoHal> what version of ubuntu are u using? ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu?
[06:54] <Lost> well, I'm trying to figure out why youtube doesn't work. It's just a grey box where the video should be. As far as I can tell I have everything downloaded as far as flash and plugins go.
[06:54] <rww> Lost: yes, it's supported both here and in #lubuntu
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:54] <|\n> that is questionable, due to the fact i can have lxde alongside lxdm without additional 339 packages which lubuntu-desktop package wants me to have
[06:55] <|\n> RenoHal, ubuntu with lxde
[06:55] <|\n> originally from alternate cd
[06:56] <dually> Lost: did you install lubuntu-restricted-extras?
[06:57] <Lost> dually I'm pretty sure. Let me double check
[06:58] <Lost> dually it says I have ubuntu-restricted-extras. Is there a difference between the two?
[06:58] <gre-> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2014-03/msg15135.html
[06:58] <gre-> anyone know how to fix it?
[06:58] <gre-> fullscreen bug on trusty
[06:59] <RenoHal> |\n: have you tried to install the nvidia driver from device manager?
[06:59] <RenoHal> anything 319 and later should support prime
[07:00] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, what happened of my issue?
[07:00] <dually> Lost: that's a good question.  Have you install google-chrome?  Does Youtube work ok in Google-Chrome?
[07:00] <|\n> RenoHal, i don't have one since i removed all the gnome and unity packages, i always went for nvidia-current, this time it is nvidia-331-updates installed
[07:00] <Lost> dually did not install chrome. I can try if you give me a second
[07:01] <dually> Lost: with google-chrome you have to download the deb from www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[07:01] <cfhowlett> Lost make it easy on yourself.  purge ubuntu restricted extras, install lubuntu restricted extras.  They are in different packages for a reason
[07:03] <H0und> Gre- does the same problem happen when you use Flash players?
[07:03] <macscam1> Hey everybody. My volume is not muting from the speakers when I plug in headphones ...
[07:04] <macscam1> can sum1 help
[07:05] <macscam1> : [
[07:05] <dually> mascam1: do you have pavucontrol installed?  That has a nice interface for choosing output.
[07:06] <macscam1> dually no
[07:06] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: try this... locate libGL.so.1
[07:06] <helmut_> hi
[07:06] <|\n> but you need gnome-icon-theme-full package to have correctly looking interface of pavucontrol, which is not on dependency list
[07:07] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289607/
[07:08] <Guest30574> hi all, i am having a small problem with ubuntu, i am using MObile partner 21 for linux , Huawei Modem to connect to internet
[07:08] <gre-> H0und: i dunno
[07:08] <gre-> is it a way to verify it?
[07:09] <Guest30574> but when i minimized it, it get lost , no where, it should minimize to systray just like 12.04 LTS
[07:09] <macscam1> dually any idea how to work pavucontrol doesnt seem to work
[07:09] <Guest30574> I am using 14.04 LTS, how to i whitelist an item to unity systray 14.04
[07:09] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: ok.. well, that's not it. Still looking, but anyone else might know about this?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289437/
[07:10] <dually> mascam: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/pavucontrol/
[07:10] <macscam1> dually oh cool figured it out thanks!!!!!
[07:10] <amtkhdkr> thanks for trying RenoHal
[07:10] <amtkhdkr> i'll hang around and wait if anyone else can help me
[07:10] <RenoHal> sorry, exhausted google  =(
[07:11] <dually> macscam1: :o)
[07:11] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, same here actually :( tried a lot of things, as u can see in the comments on the question
[07:12] <dually> amtkhdkr: you have a laptop with nvidia optimus card?
[07:12] <Lost> cfhowlett I tried uninstalling ubuntu-system-extras and searching for lubuntu-system-extras, but it's not finding it in lubuntu software center
[07:12] <amtkhdkr> to others, i'm having a problem with optirun http://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee please help me asap, thanks
[07:12] <dually> Lost: `apt install lubuntu-restricted-extras`
[07:12] <cfhowlett> Lost run a terminal    sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:13] <Guest30574> anybody here, if could help  me to white list an item to appear in unity systray
[07:13] <Guest30574> i am using 14.04
[07:13] <amtkhdkr> dually yes it is a lenovo laptop and i suppose it is optimus too. I can run optimus on my windows 7 os, don't know why it is not working here
[07:13] <Guest30574> and it is necessary to whitelist
[07:14] <Lost> I guess it worked. let me get a pastebin going
[07:14] <H0und> Gre- testing a youtube video would be the immediate way. However, I am asking more for the point of if your problem is local to launching a game and not videos in general.
[07:15] <Lost> http://pastebin.com/iyK3EPZX
[07:15] <dually> amtkhdkr:  I don't think you can just install nVidia driver
[07:15] <Lost> I still get a grey screen
[07:16] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: there?
[07:16] <amtkhdkr> dually, RenoHal I don't mind completely dumping my integrated gpu (intel hd 3000). i'll be happy to use only nVidia
[07:16] <DestinyAwaits> sudo apt-get update lots of URL are throwing 403??
[07:16] <amtkhdkr> dually, what do you suggest?
[07:16] <dually> amtkhdkr:  did you try installing the nvidia driver with either bumblebee or with the new nVidia-prime thingy?
[07:18] <amtkhdkr> dually, as far as i  read, the only way i can use my nvidia driver is through optirun. as u can see in the question, that gives an error
[07:18] <amtkhdkr> is there anything else i can do?
[07:18] <Guest30574> how to reverse scroll direction in ubuntu 14.04
[07:19] <gre-> H0und: on youtube its ok
[07:19] <gre-> i manually set fullscreen mode
[07:19] <gre-> and it works well
[07:19] <NicoX> hi
[07:20] <H0und> hmm okay
[07:20] <dually> amtkhdkr: so you did (or did not) install nVidia with bumblebee or with Nvidia-prime?
[07:21] <amtkhdkr> dually: i followed the ubuntu wiki on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation.I don't know if that's installed my gpu or not. I also don't care much about power consumption right now,so no issues if i don't use bumblebee. I just want to be able to use my nvidia gpu,that's all i care about right now
[07:21] <kkkkkdfkkdf> hi all, i am using ubuntu 14.04 and it is much faster than 12.04 , but how to whitelist an item from unity system tray, i need to whitelist , but there is no tutorial of its kind for ubuntu 14.04 and i also installed dconf editor, but theree is not setting  in >org>desktop>unity
[07:21] <kkkkkdfkkdf> how to solve that
[07:21] <kkkkkdfkkdf> ??
[07:21] <sddhrthrt> I'm using matlab on ubuntu.
[07:22] <sddhrthrt> When I play anything, I get an error : http://pastebin.com/DBEsPjWC
[07:22] <mark__> anyone know how to get to the login screen on ubuntu server?
[07:23] <|\n> nvidia-prime (nvidia-331-updates already installed) eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:23] <sddhrthrt> play as in wavplay or soundsc.
[07:24] <rigved> mark__: you should be getting a terminal login screen on ubuntu server, when it is booted
[07:24] <Bray90820> What number would i use to have read and execute  permissions  on a file
[07:24] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: I did happen to find this: http://sagark.org/optimal-ubuntu-graphics-setup-for-thinkpads/
[07:24] <noorideen> if i need some help with php where to go?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !php
[07:25] <dastaan> read and exec will be 5 @ bray
[07:25] <|\n> noorideen, #php ?
[07:25] <noorideen> yea no one is answering me there :D
[07:26] <dastaan> php ?
[07:26] <dastaan> shoot
[07:26] <dastaan> :)
[07:26] <SuperFireAl> Is 14.04 loaded with amazon spyware too ?
[07:26] <rigved> noorideen: if you have queries related to php on ubuntu, you can ask on #ubuntu-server as well
[07:27] <rww> SuperFireAl: It's loaded with as much amazon spyware as 13.10 is.
[07:27] <noorideen> thank you!
[07:27] <|\n> SuperFireAl, just go with alternate or server image and don't pick up canonical stuff if paranoid
[07:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> SuperFireAl, no, its taken out by default
[07:27] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal: I'll try it out and post back :) thankyou!
[07:27] <SuperFireAl> rww: What about the subBuntu's ?
[07:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> (I think; its at least planned to)
[07:27] <rww> SuperFireAl: the what?
[07:27] <SuperFireAl> Like Lubuntu, etc
[07:27] <kkkkkdfkkdf> hello everyone??
[07:27] <RenoHal> np.. let me know! =)
[07:27] <dually> amtkhdkr: have you tried adding your user to the bumblebee group?  Maybe it's a permissions issue.  I'm guessing here. Also, did you install the kernel-headers?
[07:27] <rww> SuperFireAl: none of them use Unity's search interface, so they don't search Amazon, no
[07:28] <kkkkkdfkkdf> dastaan: from India?
[07:28] <SuperFireAl> rww: OK , might as well grab one of those instead.
[07:28] <|\n> SuperFireAl, derivatives come with *-desktop packages, if paranoid it's not an option i suspect
[07:28] <zhz> Hi
[07:28] <amtkhdkr> yes i'm a user in bumblebee group and yes i have linux kernel-headers too :)
[07:28] <rww> not sure where "paranoid" came from
[07:28] <amtkhdkr> dually
[07:28] <dastaan> yes
[07:28] <kkkkkdfkkdf> dastaan: are you familiar with linux
[07:28] <SuperFireAl> rww: "tired of having to remove stuff from desktop that shouldn't be there" is probably what he means.
[07:28] <dastaan> sorta
[07:29] <|\n> rww, paranoid is when you care much about amazon knowing what porn do you prefer
[07:29] <rww> SuperFireAl: mhm
[07:29] <kkkkkdfkkdf> dastaan: could you help me? regarding whitelisting  a item from UNity systray
[07:30] <kkkkkdfkkdf> many systray icons got hide in ubuntu 14.04 , i was on 12.04 and it was working fine and some commands do not work in 14.04
[07:30] <sddhrthrt> hey guys - do you know why I cant play any sound on matlab?
[07:32] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, it seems to be some sort of installation of external monitors. Are you sure that's the solution?
[07:32] <zhz>
[07:34] <stefg> kkkkkdfkkdf: https://launchpad.net/~timekiller/+archive/unity-systrayfix?field.series_filter=saucy has some interesting explanation. I'm afraid you'll have to run a patched version of unity (which hasn't been built yet) to be able to that
[07:35] <kkkkkdfkkdf> stefg: let me see
[07:35]  * stefg hates the defunction-desease which spreads around UI developers lately. I'll call that un-development
[07:35] <clue_h> stefg, the removal of features?
[07:36] <stefg> yeah
[07:36] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: well that would be one of the benefits of having the driver installed, but the commands it's giving you should be to get it installed correctly. I would try it myself first, but I don't have an optimus card
[07:37] <stefg> it might be ok to hide something in dconf-keys, but to remove *widely used* functionality altogether is Interface-Naziism.
[07:37] <|\n> nvidia-prime (nvidia-331-updates already installed) eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:37] <stefg> Name F3 dual pane view in nautilus
[07:37] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal ok i'll give it a shot
[07:37] <c2tarun> This might not be relevant to this channel, but wanted to share this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TTioMbNT9I please watch it, its awesome
[07:37] <c2tarun> !amIconnected
[07:38] <c2tarun> This might not be relevant to this channel, but wanted to share this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TTioMbNT9I please watch it, it is awesome
[07:38] <Flannel> c2tarun: Please stop.
[07:38] <c2tarun> Flannel, sorry, I thought I was disconnected last time.
[07:38] <cfhowlett> c2tarun spam is unwelecome
[07:38] <c2tarun> very sorry guys
[07:38] <c2tarun> I wasn't spamming.
[07:38] <Flannel> c2tarun: #ubuntu-offtopic for those sorts of things.
[07:38] <[lutchy]> Hello, what's the development package name openssl? openssl-dev and libopenssl-dev is not coming up with nothing? For Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:38] <c2tarun> Flannel, okie
[07:39] <c2tarun> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <elky> |\n: it looks packages that were previously chosen for installation but never got installed for some reason. are you halfway through an upgrade?
[07:39] <Flannel> c2tarun: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <stefg> !info openssl
[07:39] <|\n> elky, no
[07:39] <stefg> !info libopenssl
[07:39] <crizis> |\n: did you try 'sudo apt-get install -f' first which should finish ongoing package installations
[07:39] <c2tarun> msg ubottu !heartbleed
[07:40] <|\n> crizis, no ongoing packages
[07:40] <[lutchy]> :s
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !heartbleed
[07:40] <[lutchy]> !info libopenssl-dev
[07:40] <[lutchy]> :s
[07:41] <rww> !info libssl-dev
[07:41] <ziyourenxiang> openssl is libssl and libcrypto
[07:41]  * [lutchy] was thinking try libssl-dev....
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> im looking for the command to install the new ubuntu touch on my nexus7, wiki shows still the dev version
[07:41] <[lutchy]> I wasn't too sure
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !touch|lotuspsychje
[07:41] <stefg> [lutchy]: apt-cache search openssl | grep dev  .... it's libssl-*-dev
[07:42] <tk_> hello everybody
[07:43] <tk_> is there anybody
[07:43] <stefg> !hello > tk_
[07:43] <[lutchy]> LOL
[07:44] <[lutchy]> Too late stefg
[07:44] <elky> |\n: well something has happened to your ubuntu for those packages to be not installed
[07:44] <elky> |\n: what have you done recently?
[07:45] <|\n> elky, recently i refused to continue my sad gnome and unity experience in a favor of lxde with lxdm
[07:45] <elky> |\n: and you did this how?
[07:46] <|\n> elky, in a very straight way of removing everything starting with gdm and gnome*
[07:46] <|\n> and unity* and stuff
[07:48] <he1kki> is it common that Apport is using 100% cpu for more than 5min?
[07:49] <elky> |\n: you didn't install lubuntu-desktop?
[07:49] <stefg> he1kki: .... let's say it's not uncommon.
[07:50] <|\n> elky, there is no lubuntu-desktop
[07:50] <he1kki> I thought that it's usually just collecting some debugging data, not doing any heavy calculations
[07:50] <|\n> elky, because when i have lxde and lxdm package installed it wants to fetch 339 packages additionally
[07:50] <stefg> he1kki: apport itself is some PITA.... maybe in 2 years or so it will become atually useful
[07:51] <|\n> about ~450MB
[07:52] <he1kki> stefg: ok, thanks. Killed it.
[07:52] <a_run> would it be alright to install ubuntu-server edition on a laptop ? what features will i have to enable to get it play well on laptop ?
[07:52] <Flannel> |\n: can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get --simulate-only install lubuntu-desktop`
[07:53] <a_run> i don't want unity or any other desktop on my laptop
[07:53] <he1kki> Now that I'm here, I remember some rumours that xorg was meant to be replaced with unity in 14.04?
[07:53] <a_run> i'll be installing dwm on it
[07:53] <stefg> |\n: may i suggest to consider a time comparison between trying to fix a broken mess vs. doing a backup of your /home and maybe /etc and starting over with a clean lubuntu install? That might be more rewarding and avoids further problems in the future
[07:53] <|\n> Flannel, E: Command line option --simulate-only is not understood
[07:53] <belak51> What are good terminal emulators to replace ubuntu-terminal?
[07:54] <elky> Flannel: i think he's missing some important bits in that pile of stuff it wants to install
[07:54] <|\n> stefg, this is a very, very last option whatever the problem is
[07:54] <a_run> belak51: urxvt ?
[07:54] <Flannel> |\n: oh, sorry.  I got mixed up with something else.  It's just "--simulate"
[07:54] <Jordan_U> he1kki: It was Xorg being replaced (as display manager) with Mir, and it didn't end up happening (though it's still plannes for a future release).
[07:54] <belak51> a_run: preferably something with tabs, though that's usually my fallback
[07:54] <stefg> |\n: it's not about feasybility, it's about economic time management
[07:54] <Flannel> elky: I expect when he removed gnome-* he probably also removed his whole graphic environment.  Plus, he's probably upgrading some of these packages too.
[07:54] <|\n> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289835/
[07:55] <|\n> stefg, such management caused my problems from my perception
[07:55] <Flannel> |\n: Alright, so, what's the issue?
[07:55] <dually> belak51:  I think ubuntu-terminal is actually gnome-terminal, I think they all have tabs.  You might try terminator.
[07:55] <a_run> belak51: sorry don't know then. I use tmux inside urxvt.
[07:55] <he1kki> Jordan_U: Check, thanks.
[07:56] <ts14ic> Good morning here : ) . What log files should I dig in, if my computer sometimes just suddenly freezes? Completely.  Sysrq REISUB isn't working - REI is disabled - , even though sysrq.kernel is set to 1. It happened to me on every version of Ubuntu from 12.04 till now (14.04).
[07:56] <jonbr_000> im having some trouble importing my database after switch from ubuntu 12.04 x386 to ubuntu 12.04 i686 i keep getting mysql error 1114
[07:56] <belak51> a_run: that's a good idea... I'll probably do that
[07:56] <|\n> Flannel, nvidia-prime (nvidia-331-updates already installed) eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:56] <Flannel> |\n: is it just that this seems like too much to be "right"? and you're looking for confirmation before you do it?
[07:57] <belak51> a_run: do you have a recommended guide or tips for getting started with tmux?
[07:57] <a_run> belak51: yeah, use any term multiplexer. provides lot more power/features compared to tabs
[07:57] <|\n> Flannel, i'm trying to figure out why do i need system-config-printer-gnome and bluez and stuff with nvidia-prime
[07:57] <Flannel> |\n: oh, is that it?
[07:57] <stefg> ts14ic: Can you rule out a dirty or broken fan (thermal problems) or bad ram?
[07:57] <|\n> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:57] <a_run> belak51: try http://www.danielmiessler.com/study/tmux/
[07:57] <timmoe> Hey guys, I'm installing ubuntu on a notebook with 2GB of RAM, should I take a i386 or a amd64 iso?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> timmoe 32
[07:58] <llutz> |\n: same if you try "apt-get --no-install-recommends install nvidia-prime"?
[07:58] <|\n> llutz, =)
[07:58] <Flannel> |\n: it's because nvidia-prime recommends: unity-greeter or [a number of other greeters], and it picks the first one as a default (if it's configured to install recommends, and it is, by default).
[07:58] <Flannel> |\n: and then unity-greeter wants gconf and all sorts of other stuff.
[07:58] <cfhowlett> timmoe you might consider lubuntu or xubuntu
[07:58] <rww> why on earth does nvidia-prime recommend unity-greeter
[07:58] <timmoe> cfhowlett With 2GB of Ram?!
[07:58] <|\n> Flannel, llutz i don't need lightdm still
[07:59] <|\n> i got lxdm
[07:59] <Flannel> |\n: in that case, do the --no-install-recommends as llutz suggested
[07:59] <stefg> timmoe: I'd use 64bit, although it requires a tad more ram... i386 only if the scope is clearly defined
[07:59] <|\n> Flannel, it goes with lightdm
[07:59] <cfhowlett> timmoe you're questioning the 32 bit or the x/l/ubuntu suggestions
[07:59] <Flannel> Oh, sorry, I was looking at the wrong page.
[07:59] <belak51> a_run: thanks!
[07:59] <|\n> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289858/
[07:59] <timmoe> cfhowlett the bit thing ^^
[07:59] <AhmedA> Hi All, I want to install linux on virtual machine, what you suggest ?
[07:59] <Flannel> rww, |\n: One layer wrong.  nvidia-prime *requires* lightdm, which reocmmends [greeter]
[08:00] <lawnewbie> test
[08:00] <ts14ic> stefg, It happened for two years, since I have this laptop. I had windows 7 on it for half of year and this problem didn't occur back then : ) . The laptop was pretty cold (it happened just before i wrote here). And I also did a ram check before.
[08:00] <lawnewbie> heii
[08:00] <cfhowlett> timmoe generally 4 gb machines are 64 bit ...
[08:00] <lawnewbie> i have problem with my laptop
[08:00] <lawnewbie> anyone can help me again?? :(
[08:00] <rww> Flannel: okay. why on earth does nvidia-prime depend lightdm
[08:00] <Flannel> |\n: There's no way to install nvidia-prime without lightdm (not sure why on earth it does)
[08:00] <cfhowlett> !64
[08:00] <|\n> Flannel, (c) <stefg> |\n: it's not about feasybility, it's about economic time management
[08:00] <Flannel> rww, |\n: which version of Ubuntu is this?  On trusty, there seems to be lightdm/gdm/kdm option
[08:00] <AhmedA> Hi All, I want to install linux on virtual machine, what you suggest ?
[08:00] <|\n> Flannel, 14.04
[08:01] <cfhowlett> AhmedA virtualbox and 32 bit ubuntu
[08:01] <timmoe> Okay, so 64 bit is slower, or why is i386 better?
[08:01] <Flannel> |\n: ok, for you, you get to pick lightdm, gdm, or kdm ;)
[08:01] <AhmedA> virtual box you mean vm?
[08:01] <llutz> lightdm/gdm/kdm but not xdm/lxdm?   maintainer on speed?
[08:01] <elky> Flannel: does it depend directly, or does something like nvidia-settings want a dm?
[08:01] <Flannel> rww: because no one would ever want to use nvidia without having one of those three display managers!
[08:01] <Flannel> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/nvidia-prime
[08:01] <Flannel> I'm not a telephone :P
[08:02] <Flannel> |\n: If you have an aversion to lightdm (without recommends, it might be easier to just install it and not use it), then you can create your own dummy package to satisfy that dependency.
[08:02] <AStorm> I'd say blame antiquated dpkg deps
[08:02] <AStorm> you cannot have a virtual dependency there
[08:02] <lawnewbie> heiii
[08:02] <lawnewbie> why my battery there;s estimating?
[08:02] <AStorm> (need to inject a fake package that depends on all dms
[08:02] <thirupathi> hello
[08:02] <Flannel> AStorm: sure you can.
[08:02] <stefg> ts14ic: I'd use some utility distro like systemrecuecd and have it running a ram test overnight. Your primary log should be dmesg and /var/log/syslog, but if you have a hardware problem it's hard to track down by these
[08:03] <AhmedA> virtualbox you mean vmware?
[08:03] <|\n> Flannel, since new waves of unity and lightdm stuff appeared in my life i constantly was facing some warnings, glitches and other things from dm's i never needed =)
[08:03] <a_run> timmoe: 64-bit isn't slower.  64-bit is usually used when you have more then 4GB of RAM
[08:03] <a_run> you can run 64-bit on yours
[08:03] <AStorm> Flannel, only in a way I've described - otherwise you need to spell out all the alternatives
[08:03] <stefg> !virtualbox | AhmedA
[08:03] <Flannel> |\n: I'm not arguing with you, just telling you your two options (well, and the third would be "don't use nvidia-prime")
[08:04] <|\n> i'd pick vmware if it comes to windoze debugging (if matters, just in case)
[08:04] <ts14ic> stefg, oh, okay. I just feel a bit suspicious, because as I said, I used Windows for half of year, and it didn't happen. Thanks : )
[08:05] <|\n> Flannel, you see, i can figure out that i have only 2 options, again, don't get wrong my attitude, but you already shared my feeling telling that you can't see any real reasons behind this bogus freedom of choice =)
[08:05] <AhmedA> ok thanks
[08:05] <timmoe> So do I have any disadvantages with amd64 on 2 GB of RAM, or is it just unusual?
[08:05] <stefg> ts14ic: the dust in the cooling channel might have agregated later.... (as a smoker i know how a system looks like after 6 months in my room :-) )
[08:05] <AStorm> |\n, yeah, unsupported choice is unsupported
[08:05] <AStorm> you might be better served by another distribution
[08:05] <|\n> AStorm, wise
[08:05] <Flannel> AStorm: If you're not going to help, just be quiet.
[08:06] <llutz> timmoe: it's common to use amd64 now, no problem usually
[08:06] <|\n> AStorm, you're getting me wrong
[08:06] <AStorm> Flannel, help with what? there are plenty broken packages around
[08:06] <clue_h> timmoe, when you upgrade ram you'll notice, no disadvantage though
[08:06] <Flannel> |\n: The dummy package probably isn't too painful, there's tools ("equivs") to help you build a dummy package.
[08:06] <timmoe> llutz Okay, thank you ;)
[08:06] <AStorm> there's a law of inverse testing: the least commonly used packages are the least tested
[08:06] <clue_h> like openssl
[08:06] <Flannel> AStorm: Take the non-support to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:07] <AStorm> talking about support, is there an ubuntu xen kernel?
[08:07] <timmoe> clue_h I don't plan to upgrade the RAM, because it's a older notebook
[08:07] <AStorm> as in, dom0
[08:07] <ts14ic> stefg, suddenlt, I'm no smoker : D . But I have a cat :D . Btw, I had sent this laptop to techservice after an year of usage (meaning It worked with Linux half of year already). So, they made a dust cleaning or something oO .
[08:07] <newbuntu> anyone seem to enter  https://launchpad.net ?
[08:07] <fariyad> hi
[08:07] <AStorm> newbuntu, works fine
[08:07] <|\n> Flannel, yeah i'd go with it, but still, fetching lubuntu-desktop when having lxde/lxdm wants 339 packages additionally; pvaducontrol needs gnome-icon-theme-full, which is not even on dependency list; and such and so on, something is going wrong :<
[08:08] <newbuntu> can't enter the website
[08:08] <Flannel> |\n: If you want bare bones, use --no-install-recommends
[08:08] <AStorm> |\n, did the usual clean, check, autoclean dance? (apt-get commands)
[08:08] <AStorm> oh, and that
[08:08] <Flannel> |\n: Most of those things are recommends from subpackages, so it can be pared down.
[08:09] <Flannel> But, you're getting Xorg and stuff, since you inadvertantly removed them
[08:09] <ts14ic> stefg, Okay. I have downloaded systemrescuecd. Now I'll hope that it won't freeze during the check :D
[08:09] <AStorm> sorry, I meant check and autoremove
[08:09] <AStorm> old packages can cause silly things to be pulled too
[08:09] <stefg> ts14ic: even if it does you have gained some info...
[08:10] <AStorm> (in that order, do *not* run autoremove before check, you might hose the system)
[08:10] <stefg> ts14ic: and let it run overnight... bad ram might only show after many check-runs
[08:10] <|\n> aha, got it, no recommends is my very friend, just pointing out (it's better to say, rather than keep silence, right?) thanks Flannel AStorm elky crizis
[08:11] <ts14ic> stefg, I'll keep that in mind : ) . Thanks )
[08:11] <fariyad> hello budies
[08:11] <elky> |\n: it would be worth making sure there's a bug filed about it
[08:11] <Flannel> |\n: If you want to keep that, you can change your apt configs permanently.
[08:11] <elky> |\n: at least you might get an answer from it, if nothing else
[08:11] <ts14ic> stefg, Oh, I just found out, that REISUB was working. Meaning, it was a very complete freeze.
[08:11] <|\n> Flannel, yeah, i'm surprised by my own stupidity actually
[08:12] <c2tarun> I want to share some files over LAN. I have one shared folder, I don't want to create multiple shared folders. Also I don't want to copy a file everytime I want to share it. Is it possible to create a shared folder and somehow create a link in that shared folder to all the files I want to share?
[08:12] <|\n> elky, i'll consider this after reflexing on my past experience :D
[08:12] <stefg> ts14ic: which is another indication for a hardware problem...
[08:12] <Flannel> |\n: it's in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ but I don't know which of those files (just browse, the config options are all pretty verbose)
[08:12] <|\n> i know that part, Flannel thank you
[08:13]  * stefg imagines a bulk of cat hair in ts14ic's laptops  fan bearings
[08:14] <ts14ic> stefg, well. Wouldn't it overheat if it really had all this hair in  it?
[08:14] <|\n> there are much, much worse things when you often disassemble someone's laptops
[08:14] <ts14ic> cockroaches OO
[08:15] <|\n> i've seen a dead bee instead, but that is already offtopic
[08:15] <roeulogy_> elastics, figernail clippings, dried fluids.... seen some nasty stuff inside computers
[08:16] <stefg> ts14ic: yeah, but overheating can be a very local issue. if just the cpu fan isn't running but a (possible) other fan does the overall box can still be cool, while the cpu is seating at 90°C
[08:16] <clue_h> roeulogy_, even windows?
[08:17] <ts14ic> stefg, would it be a good idea, if I install a heat monitor till night "arrives" : ) ?
[08:17] <roeulogy_> unfortunantly yes, but a lot of buildup of anything really would cause an overheating issue
[08:18] <roeulogy_> i've seen too much thermal past rise temps 15 over normal
[08:18] <clue_h> i generally get loads of dust
[08:18] <marcosscriven> Question about getting SATA/AHCI working on a netbook that doesn't allow me to set it in the BIOS. It's an ICH7-M chipset. I tried the setpci method here: http://f.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?t=27229&p=228183
[08:18] <marcosscriven> but grub then just says the disk is not found
[08:19] <|\n> roeulogy_, some people just think that moar paste means moar cooling
[08:19] <stefg> ts14ic: I think it's not necessary. the general methodology would be: 1. rule out hardware defects, done by runnung a diagnostic disk over night. If it passes, look further.
[08:19] <marcosscriven> with lspci I see this: 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02)
[08:20] <ts14ic> stefg, okay. Thanks :  )
[08:21] <roeulogy_> stefg is correct, rule out hardware first, even if it means disconnecting everything you can and bringing it back to basics
[08:28] <ts14ic> A second question. I can't disable grub menu timeout. Back to 12.04, I manually edited grub.cfg (crazy) and found a nifty test statement, which said if timeout is set to 0, set it to 10. (o_O) . I edited that, and timeout disappeared. How can I fix this timeout in 14.04?
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[08:35] <jesselb> Recently installed 14.04 and Totem is having issues.  Takes about 15 seconds to load every file (audio or video).  Each time, it appears to be on the verge of crashing before loading the file.  never had this problem before and VLC loads them fine.  Anyone know what the cause of this problem is?
[08:37] <alberto> ciao
[08:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, what type of files are they?
[08:38] <Bray90820> this may or may not be the right place to ask this but
[08:38] <Bray90820> What variable is used to control the maximum number of commands saved during a session?
[08:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, I have been having troubles with m4a's
[08:39] <Aki-Thinkpad> Bray90820, for terminal sessions?
[08:39] <llutz> Bray90820: $HISTSIZE (bash)
[08:39] <Bray90820> Aki-Thinkpad: yes
[08:39] <Bray90820> llutz: thanks
[08:39] <Aki-Thinkpad> ^llutz
[08:40] <Bray90820> Tahnks
[08:40] <jesselb> aki-thinkpad: ive tried mp3, wmv, and some others... seems to be every file
[08:40] <MktWizard108> join
[08:41] <jesselb> Ali-Thinkpad: even when I just load totem with no file, it takes about 10-15 seconds (and almost crashes) before loading into its normal starts screen
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, I am not expert enough in this. VLC works fine; what about rhythmbox?
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, does it give you a crash report?
[08:41] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: That works fine as well
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, also just to make sure; what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:41] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: No crash report.  It doesnt actually crash, but almost done
[08:41] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: 14.04
[08:41] <jesselb> but almost does*
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, strange
[08:42] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, so you don't have to kill it?
[08:42] <crizis> jesselb: might be far fetched but check if you have any plugins on (like subtitle downloader) that could jam it
[08:42]  * Aki-Thinkpad wonders if totem has a debugger
[08:42] <roel> Why does this not work with instructions of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution ? "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[08:42] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: the first few times I would kill it because I thought it was crashed, but now i just let it load
[08:42] <crizis> jesselb: edit > plugins
[08:42] <volkan> To find and copy why we write {}, \ and ; ? Can someone explain find and copy command?
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, and it doesnt sound like it could be a partition thing...
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, how is your ram?
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> is it loading it to swap perhaps?
[08:43] <jesselb> crizis: Hmmm I dont see an edit menu.  do you know where that is?
[08:43] <llutz> volkan: "man find " (-exec ....)
[08:43] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: 32GB  of RAM :)
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, o_O
[08:44] <roeulogy_> anybody have a simple solution to getting oracle java into 14.04?
[08:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> oh brother... lol
[08:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, run totem in terminal, see if it outputs anything
[08:44] <roel> Here is the log: http://paste.org/71927
[08:44] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad : unfortunately, it doesnt output anything :(
[08:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> hmmmm
[08:45]  * Aki-Thinkpad checks for debugger
[08:45] <jesselb> thanks for your help
[08:46] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, try totem --debug
[08:46] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[08:46] <Aki-Thinkpad> its not in the man page, but it apparently exists
[08:46] <yellabs-r2> is there a way to auto boot into "guestsession"  instead of regular user ( for library use )
[08:47] <crizis> jesselb: http://pasteboard.co/2gytEX5x.png
[08:47] <hutch> Ubuntu love rekindled with 14.04 kudos
[08:47] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, wait a minute
[08:47] <Aki-Thinkpad> sorry first you have to install totem debug from the software center
[08:47] <hutch> group hug lol
[08:47] <jesselb> Ali-Thinkpad: unfortunately it is outputting nothing
[08:47] <jesselb> oh i'll try that
[08:48] <jesselb> crizis: unfortunately I dont see that on mine.  Not in the top panel nor in the top of the program
[08:48] <crizis> has to be there :)
[08:49] <roel> who can help me?
[08:50] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: Unfortunately, i ran totem --debug after installing totem-dbg, but it doesnt output anything
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> roel,  might want to try askubuntu;
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, yah it doesnt seem like the best debugger
[08:50] <roel> ok
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, funky idea; try running totem as root
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, to see if there is a local config mucking with it
[08:51] <jesselb> crizis: that's a nice page... i'll have to remember it.  unfortunately it didnt work when i loaded up totem: http://pbrd.co/1jlCmED
[08:52] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: That worked! it loaded up instantly
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, :P
[08:52] <jesselb> Oh, wait... no... it just started to crash again
[08:52] <jesselb> sorry.  false alarm
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, :o
[08:52] <jesselb> But it was different this time haha. It got my hopes up :)
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, i don't know if this still exists
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> but try the xine backend
[08:52] <roel> where can i find ASKUBUNTU for my displays setting help?
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> I assume you are using gstreamer
[08:53] <Aki-Thinkpad> roel, www.askubuntu.com
[08:53] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: I am, but I did install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, which those "10 things to do after installing ubuntu 14.04" pages said.  Should I try it without?
[08:53] <roel> ok
[08:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, at this point; its just groping in the dark
[08:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> couldnt hurt :P
[08:54] <jesselb> thanks
[08:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, At the end of it; might want to submit a bug report
[08:55] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: Thanks.  will do.  I'll try a few things.  I appreciate your time with this
[08:55] <jesselb> have a good day!
[08:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, #gstreamer would probably be interested in this bug
[08:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> !askubuntu
[08:55] <stephans> On EXT4, how do I set a mount option that forces any file crated to be a given user and a given group with certain permissions?
[08:56] <llutz> stephans: use ACLs
[08:56] <stephans> llutz, really..? I thought that only set permissions on existing files and folders?
[08:57] <volkan> Any tutorial about piping commands?
[08:58] <llutz> stephans: nope, you'll have to use ACLs to do that and probably setgid too
[08:58] <bluedawg> yeah do some research
[08:59] <llutz> volkan: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/InputAndOutput
[08:59] <volkan> llutz, thanks!
[08:59] <zandaga> hi guys, i have a problem with the upgrade can i ask my question here?
[09:01] <Archos> Don't know for sure if I can help you, but let's give it a try.
[09:01] <llutz> zandaga: ask away and see
[09:01] <zandaga> great,thanks
[09:02] <zandaga> so i burned the upgrade into a usb flash drive,started it , i had an io problem,the usb stick had an error in the middle of the upgrade
[09:03] <Archos> Ouch
[09:03] <zandaga> all my files in the home directory are intact no problem
[09:03] <zandaga> thing is i do a weekly backup with deja-dup it backsup all my important files
[09:04] <zandaga> including the www folder...but for some reason the backup of the day before didn't include the recent change to my php files
[09:04] <zandaga> so they are not up to date
[09:04] <zandaga> i would like to know if somehow i can recover those files
[09:05] <marcosscriven> does anyone here know about using setpci in grub to enable SATA mode? I've tried various things at it just hangs
[09:05] <zandaga> does the process of upgrading store them in a temp
[09:05] <zandaga> or something....
[09:05] <Bray90820> what would "fc echo" do in a terminal
[09:05] <Archos> zandaga: have you tried running a live-cd?
[09:06] <zandaga> now i'm on another linux distro i can see all the files my home directory hasn't been touched
[09:06] <zandaga> (sorry for my english)
[09:07] <Archos> zandaga: do you know which partition you root partion is? (lsblk)
[09:07] <Archos> *your
[09:09] <zandaga> no not really ( i ve ran thecommand the root / is sda2 )
[09:11] <minu> i've updated to 14.04, but the upgrade didn't finish in a proper state, and now when i do apt-get dist-upgrade, i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7290233/
[09:12] <Archos> zandaga try: sudo mkdir /media/myroot && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/myroot
[09:12] <cfhowlett> minu as on line 24 : sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[09:14] <zandaga> done
[09:14] <zandaga> the partition is up and running the myroot folder
[09:14] <Archos> zandaga: you should then be able to view your files under /media/myroot
[09:14] <zandaga> yes i can
[09:14] <zandaga> still can't find the www in var
[09:15] <Sonikk> hi, is there a known problem with mounting Lumia 920 via USB-cable?
[09:15] <Sonikk> or is it just me
[09:16] <c2tarun> I want to share some files over LAN. I have one shared folder, I don't want to create multiple shared folders. Also I don't want to copy a file everytime I want to share it. Is it possible to create a shared folder and somehow create a link in that shared folder to all the files I want to share?
[09:17] <gabriele> Hi all
[09:17] <Lunux_> Elo.
[09:17] <Lunux_> PING PONG, KURNA
[09:17] <Archos> zandaga: sigh... okay
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Lunux_ ask your ubuntu support questions
[09:17] <Archos> ehh
[09:18] <Con7e> Hi Folks
[09:19] <Archos> andaga: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164912/after-12-04-upgrade-var-www-is-missing
[09:20] <Lunux_> Elo.
[09:20] <Archos> zandaga: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164912/after-12-04-upgrade-var-www-is-missing
[09:22] <zandaga> Archos: yeah i get it ;) now i'm defintly not storing my web dev files there
[09:22] <Archos> zandaga: maybe you could run testdisk, but I have no experience in how to work with that, so you should probably better read up on it.
[09:23] <zandaga> maybe , thanks for your time anyway, i did learn a valuable lesson ;)
[09:23] <tapamo> Hi to all
[09:23] <rbrian> got a question, when a kernel panic says "system input/output error", what does that mean? Is the processor, DMA, IDE/Sata controller, USB or RAM bad?
[09:24] <rbrian> I know windows was never that clear.
[09:24] <tapamo> I'm having problems since I've upgraded my system from 13.10 to 14.04 (ubuntu-desktop is missing)
[09:24] <tapamo> any solution ?
[09:25] <rbrian> tapamo, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Seems the metapackage is missing. You'll probably want to install synaptic too.
[09:25] <rbrian> tapamo, also, you'll need to do that from a terminal window.
[09:26] <tapamo> Thanks rbrian, I did that but the problem remains
[09:26] <rbrian> tapamo shoot, that sucks. ;/
[09:26] <tapamo> Everything I'm doing is from terminal
[09:26] <Archos> zandaga: Yeah, well me too. Good luck! :)
[09:27] <rbrian> I don't get why synaptic and gdebi was removed from ubuntu.
[09:27] <rbrian> both are 100% useful and mandatory if you don't wanna use the ubuntu software center at all.
[09:28] <tapamo> sure, synaptic is far better than software center
[09:29] <david> nick Doubleman
[09:29] <rbrian> tapamo, synaptic enables you to fix broken packages and dependencies too, something canonical/ubuntu never thought twice about when they decided to exclude it.
[09:29] <Popcan> I am currently running steam through wine when i run spelunky everything works great but as soon as i press anything on the keyboard there is an instant error
[09:29] <Doubleman> Can anyone help me with a version.h file for kernel-headers? How do I create one?
[09:29] <tapamo> this is exactly what I have as output from sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:30] <tapamo> ubuntu-desktop : Depends: ubuntu-session but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <tapamo>                   Recommends: empathy but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <tapamo> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[09:30] <rbrian> Popcan, there should be a native steam client somewhere.
[09:30] <rbrian> tapamo, do you happen to have synaptic installed?
[09:31] <Popcan> rbrian yeah... the one thats in the ubuntu software center im using wine because spelunky doesnt support linux hence the point of using wine
[09:31] <tapamo> Yes it was install since 13.10
[09:31] <rbrian> Popcan, I see.
[09:31] <kervala> hi there :)
[09:32] <Popcan> rbrian do you know how to fix thia
[09:32] <Con7e> My friends
[09:32] <rbrian> Popcan, unfortunately no, I wish I did however.
[09:32] <Con7e> How can I purge Ubuntu from it's shit, and only keep Awesome WM
[09:32] <Con7e> ?
[09:32] <Con7e> I mean no Unity & Stuff
[09:33] <rbrian> Con7e, you could choose a window manager before logging in. session icon or menu allows that.
[09:33] <tapamo> Popcan, try to change the windows system in wine configurations
[09:33] <tubo> party
[09:33] <minu> cfhowlett: after a few updates and upgrades, now i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7290351/, and fix-missing doesn't help
[09:33] <Con7e> @rbrian I know, but I'd still have my hdd full of shit I don't want
[09:33] <rbrian> tapamo, run synaptic (type sudo synaptic from the terminal, enter password when prompted), let me know.
[09:34] <kervala> Please someone could tell me if we need to install open-source packages in Ubuntu Software Center in /opt/<package> or /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/<package> ? I'm the packager of Ryzom MMORPG and currently it's installed in /opt/ryzom
[09:34] <rahulrrixe>  /msg NickServ identify rahul4263
[09:34] <cfhowlett> pcso#23
[09:35] <rbrian> con7e, maybe linux mint 13 or 17 this ending of may, would be recommended.
[09:35] <cfhowlett> minu 404 = the source url is faulty - maybe temporary.  either wait or change your software source mirror in update settings sources
[09:36] <minu> cfhowlett: how?
[09:36] <nafis> hey
[09:36] <tapamo> this is the result in synaptic "Could not apply changes!
[09:36] <tapamo> Fix broken packages first"
[09:36] <rbrian> okay, hold up a sec.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> minu system > update manager > software sources > ubuntu software > Download software from:   CHANGE THIS
[09:37] <rbrian> tapamo, running it on my end, in a moment i'll guide you what to click
[09:37] <minu> ty i'll try
[09:38] <tapamo> thanks
[09:38] <rbrian> tapamo, click Edit > Fix Broken Packages
[09:38] <rbrian> tapamo, then try again with what you wanted to install/remove, etc.
[09:39] <tapamo> I did it, this is the result "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[09:39] <tapamo> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[09:39] <tapamo> "
[09:39] <vs73nx> hello, i am having a bit of grief with sudo dpkg --configure -a. when i run it i get this output > http://hastebin.com/luguxutupo.vhdl. it freezes at this output and remains unresponsive untill i do CTRL-Z.
[09:40] <rbrian> tapamo, thats very odd, what were you doing before that occurred?
[09:40] <rbrian> tapamo, also it might just be that a repository was down or something, it happened to me before.
[09:40] <tapamo> I just upgraded from ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04
[09:41] <tapamo> before that everything was ok
[09:41] <vs73nx> this problem appeared when i upgraded to 14.04
[09:42] <rbrian> tapamo, I recommend backing up the home folder (keeping the .mozilla if you use firefox) and skipping the rest, and clean installing 14.04.
[09:43] <rbrian> tapamo, sometimes a clean install is best, upgrading does have it's woes.
[09:43] <tapamo> Thanks a lot for your help.
[09:44] <rbrian> tapamo, no problem.
[09:44] <Guest91226> is it normal for xubuntu 14.04 livecd to identify as kubuntu everywhere?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Guest91226 a b normal
[09:44] <Guest91226> cfhowlett, i don't see it mentioned anywhere in the release notes
[09:44] <rbrian> Guest91266 it might be a glitch with whoever compiled it OR if you installed the kde packages/system, that might be the case.