[09:50] <membreya> oh, DVD ripping..that's different :)
[09:50] <Echylo> cause that was one hell of a fucked up english sentence
[09:50] <ells> membreya: I can backup a dvd, but cannot compress the dvd to copy
[09:50] <xamdm> Echylo, sorry :-)
[09:50] <Echylo> no problem
[09:50] <ells> membreya: because of this, I have to make avi
[09:50] <Ubunovice> Update like "Ubuntu Update Manager"?
[09:51] <Echylo> I probably make more mistaks
[09:51] <nvashi2> ells: you using dvdrip?
[09:51] <santiago> ells, http://graveman.tuxfamily.org/index-e.php
[09:51] <Echylo> mistakes*
[09:51] <ells> membreya; the avi play, but the voice lags behind.
[09:51] <Echylo> but I talk more ;)
[09:51] <xamdm> Echylo, i try to do it better next time ;-)
[09:51] <santiago> ells, not for rip, for burn
[09:51] <Echylo> :D
[09:51] <ells> nvashi: using acidrip
[09:51] <ells> santiago: okay
[09:51] <ells> santiago: what types of files?  Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[09:58] <geneo91> or n.korea
[09:58] <xamdm>   serial 238 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0
[09:58] <Echylo> hmm
[09:58] <theDragon> ok I am back, got disconnected
[09:58] <Echylo> yea
[09:58] <xamdm> many laos diskonnected in ubuntu-de
[09:58] <xamdm> also i meant
[09:58] <HostingGeek> so in other words a mainserver went down
[09:58] <theDragon> as I was saying, any ideas with the grub thing? I am really at a loss
[09:59] <siddharthk> i am new to irc, so can anybody tell me whats is netsplit ?
[09:59] <geneo91> hey i'm in the north
[09:59] <xamdm> theDragon, what does happen, just connected later ..
[09:59] <Echylo> siddharthk, I gonna try to explain, as far as I know, irc.freenode exists of many servers, people who are connected with one server are disconnected
[10:00] <siddharthk> ohh .. thats why i just now saw many 'quit' messages ...
[10:00] <Echylo> ;)
[10:00] <Echylo> anyway
[10:00] <Echylo> gtg
[10:00] <geneo91> man thats a lot of servers california went down
[10:00] <theDragon> I cannot boot into my NTFS partition
[10:00] <Echylo> leel
[10:00] <Echylo> school time, greets to membreya :p
[10:01] <xamdm> theDragon, what happens ??, can jou show me jour menu.lst just the part with the ntfs...
[10:01] <geneo91> theDragon:  did you try to mount it as dos
[10:01] <theDragon> how?
[10:01] <theDragon> what do you mean mount it as dos?
[10:01] <xamdm> geneo91, ???
[10:02] <geneo91> xp uses dos to boot it
[10:02] <theDragon> ok, so... how do I do this?
[10:02] <xamdm> geneo91, no
[10:02] <geneo91> so there should be two partitions for xp by default
[10:02] <xamdm> geneo91, no
[10:03] <geneo91> ithink one is about 20mb
[10:03] <theDragon> ??
[10:03] <xamdm> geneo91, thats not default
[10:03] <xamdm> geneo91, ntldr statrs directly from ntfs
[10:03] <theDragon> sure isn't 2 by default
[10:03] <geneo91> yes it is goto a r console in xp one time and you'll see it
[10:03] <Ubunovice> In an ntfs partition I have files and folders with names in Hebrew. I mounted the partition and I can't even see the folders/files in nautilus. How can I correct this?
[10:04] <theDragon> ubunovoice: hebrew? hardcore
[10:04] <xamdm> theDragon, just a example of my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:04] <xamdm> # on /dev/sda1
[10:04] <xamdm> title           Windows NT/2000/XP
[10:04] <xamdm> root            (hd0,0)
[10:04] <xamdm> savedefault
[10:04] <xamdm> makeactive
[10:04] <xamdm> chainloader     +1
[10:04] <geneo91> not any i ever worked on
[10:04] <theDragon> that is exactly mine
[10:04] <theDragon> only mine not work
[10:04] <theDragon> and XP is in hda1
[10:05] <xamdm> theDragon, can jou mount the ntfs partition ??
[10:05] <theDragon> yes, I did
[10:05] <theDragon> I can see all my NTFS stuff
[10:05] <theDragon> but I want to boot to it
[10:05] <theDragon> and it won't
[10:05] <theDragon> it just hangs
[10:06] <xamdm> theDragon, is the ntfs-partition the active one ??
[10:06] <theDragon> as far as I know
[10:06] <theDragon> how would I change/set/view that?
[10:06] <theDragon> oh wait, it is
[10:06] <theDragon> it gets a makeactive before the chainloader
[10:06] <Ubunovice> I don't know if it actually matters but my ntfs partitions are hdb# and not hda#.
[10:07] <xamdm> theDragon, run fdisk an p, to look if its correct
[10:07] <Ubunovice> Hmm... FireFox got stuck. Is there like a task manager a la windows that can close it down?  Has something recently changed in the warty php4 packages that would break the ability to write to files or create files in directories not owned by www-data?  I'm fairly certain it worked a few days ago, and there's been a security update to these packages recently...
[10:11] <xamdm> geneo91, the dos partition in the xp-recue mode is a RAM-drive ;-)
[10:11] <geneo91> xp is pissed off
[10:12] <geneo91> well maybe but when i use a mandrke disk i have it shows two also
[10:12] <xamdm> theDragon, a
[10:13] <Ruby_> this is better :P
[10:13] <brion> :D
[10:13] <xamdm> geneo91, then jou do have a non standard setup ..
[10:13] <Ruby_> any one care to help me now? :P
[10:13] <theDragon> I see no a's under the fdisk util
[10:13] <geneo91> hey its not mine i dont do windows here
[10:13] <theDragon> as in under the p listing
[10:14] <xamdm> theDragon, *
[10:14] <xamdm> sorry
[10:14] <theDragon> yes, hda1 sure does
[10:14] <theDragon> like I said a few moments ago
[10:14] <theDragon> and it is indicated as NTFS
[10:14] <xamdm> any others also ??
[10:14] <theDragon> no
[10:14] <geneo91> xamdm:  why cant u see all your drive
[10:14] <Ruby_> help :( after new installation of ubuntu i get a blank black screen on X start :(
[10:15] <xamdm> geneo91, ??, i see all my drive
[10:16] <geneo91> i'm sure you dont
[10:17] <xamdm> geneo91, gparted qtparted fdisk, als say the same :-)
[10:17] <Ruby_> damn... im out... if any one has an idia how to help me please oh please PM me :(
[10:18] <pinPoint> and still no sound
[10:18] <pinPoint> o_O
[10:18] <Ruby_> god... where did you all come from? :P
[10:18] <membreya> everyone's coming back :D
[10:18] <nvashi2> wb guys
[10:18] <membreya> netsplits are always fun :)
[10:18] <Ruby_> and some are comming back twice? :P
[10:18] <nvashi2> they are on kornbluth
[10:19] <Ruby_> lol... this *is* fun :P
[10:19] <Amaranth> haha, that's what happens when you rejoin during a netsplit and don't disconnect properly
[10:20] <nvashi2> ok now check your oput settings for xmms
[10:20] <[FiDO] > can anyone help me with gdesklet ??
[10:20] <[FiDO] > gdesklets rather
[10:20] <HostingGeek> we are still missing 100 people
[10:21] <pinPoint> nvashi2: everything's clean
[10:22] <xamdm> Ruby_, what is joutr problem
[10:22] <Ruby_> new ubuntu installation- blank black screen on X start
[10:22] <nvashi2> ok
[10:23] <xamdm> Ruby_, waht kind of Grafikscard ??, sorry for my bad engleich
[10:23] <Ubunovice> Which repository will have winetools? Should I just install it manually?
[10:23] <desplesda> Ubunovice:  i remember seeing it in universe, i think
[10:23] <Ruby_> erm... its a really old Nvidia... Gforce 2 i think
[10:23] <[FiDO] > can anyone help me with gdesklets ??
[10:23] <xamdm> Ruby_, ok, warty ore hoary ??
[10:24] <Ruby_> xamdm, hoary
[10:24] <HappyPills> warty is nice, havn't tried hoary
[10:24] <Gecko> Hello people
[10:24] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I have updated from warty to hoary and I have a few strange things happening ; can we talk about it ?
[10:24] <xamdm> Ruby_, ok, just change the xorg.conf to use vesa instead of nv, 1st, so jou have unaccelerated X
[10:24] <nvashi2> HappyPills: I am upgrading to Hoary now
[10:24] <nvashi2> going smootly so far
[10:25] <xamdm> Ruby_, then try to install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx and the restricted-modules
[10:25] <Ruby_> erm... i have no clue of how to do that...
[10:25] <xamdm> Ruby_, then change the driver from vesa to nvidia
[10:25] <Ruby_> :P
[10:25] <xamdm> Ruby_, are jou able to handle the edito vi ina shell ??
[10:25] <Ruby_> install--> you mean just apr-get yeah? :(
[10:25] <nvashi2> Ruby: yeah that what he means
[10:25] <Sonium> how do i stop xserver?
[10:25] <xamdm> Ruby_, ok, we try it slower :-)
[10:25] <Ruby_> i am a total linux newbie :(
[10:26] <HappyPills> it took me several hours to get ubuntu working how I want it, I don't want to risk breaking it by going to Hoary =P
[10:26] <xamdm> Ruby_, press ctrl+alt+F1 thne login
[10:26] <geneo91> Ruby_:  you need to hit ctrl alt f1 get a terminal
[10:26] <xamdm> Ruby_, then type sudo su
[10:26] <xamdm> Ruby_, then do a dpkr-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:26] <nvashi2> HappyPills: then you should have an easier time doing it a 2nd time
[10:26] <xamdm> dpkg-reconfigure i meant
[10:26] <dmoyne> no way to edit menus with hoary ?
[10:27] <Ubunovice> I can't find winetools on universe. How exactly do I go about installing a tar.gz distribution?
[10:27] <nmoore> dmoyne: gnome menus? it seems that way
[10:27] <membreya> dmoyne: no way to edit menus with gnome2.1
[10:27] <membreya> 0
[10:27] <brion> Nobody running php, knows anything about mysterious file access problems cropping up since last security updates to warty?
[10:27] <membreya> you CAN edit them
[10:27] <Gecko> I have a weird problem. I just compiled a new kernel <IP_ADDRESS> from source, using the configuration from the default ubuntu kernel found in /boot. When booting up I get a blank screen, and no init. It is an amd64 running hoary. Can anyone help?
[10:27] <membreya> but it's a pain
[10:27] <pinPoint> i changed my runlevel to 5 and this thing didnt work
[10:27] <Seveas> membreya, there is an easy way
[10:27] <xamdm> Ruby_, when it aks for a driver choose the vesa an not the nv one !!
[10:27] <pinPoint> i lost my default sounds too
[10:27] <HappyPills> nvashi2, I didn't have time to spend doing it the first time... stupid ndiswrapper!
[10:27] <membreya> how's that Seveas ?
[10:27] <pinPoint> for opening apps
[10:27] <Seveas> on the forums, you can find an editor
[10:27] <dmoyne> I mean with KDE no way to edit menus ! ; is there any fix ?
[10:27] <membreya> Seveas: AFAIK that's for adding
[10:27] <Seveas> search for 'punkass editor'
[10:27] <xamdm> Ruby_, if  that worked try a /etc/init.d/gdm restart (for kubuntu its kdm)
[10:28] <Amaranth> Seveas: bleh, that editor sucks :P
[10:28] <Seveas> membreya, and editing your own additions :)
[10:28] <Amaranth> Seveas: Give me 5 minutes and I'll have 0.3.1 of mine up. :)
[10:28] <Seveas> Amaranth, nice :)
[10:28] <membreya> ok Amaranth :D
[10:28] <membreya> direct URL us :D
[10:28] <Myrtti> Amaranth: is that downloadable and installable already?
[10:28] <Seveas> if you create a .deb i'll put it in my repository :)
[10:29] <nmoore> anyone using kolivas kernel patches?
[10:29] <Amaranth> Myrtti: Old versions are.
[10:29] <Amaranth> Seveas: It's a deb, yes. :)
[10:29] <Myrtti> Amaranth: plz.
[10:29] <Myrtti> :-)
[10:29] <DemisM> how can I view my dvds?
[10:29] <Myrtti> we want the new one
[10:29] <New2ubuntu> iTunes on my windows machines created a bloody mess! All of my MP3's are in folder after folder of layered by album, band and track name then finally the actual music.  Is there a Linux MP3 player that can handle this, or will I have to go through each folder and just copy the mp3?
[10:29] <membreya> hurry up Amaranth hurry up
[10:29] <DemisM> do i need to install some codecs?
[10:29] <Seveas> Amaranth, if it's < 10mb, please mail it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:29] <Ruby_> okxamdm, thanks... going to try... all lower case yeah?
[10:29] <Amaranth> Seveas: ha, i don't think it goes over 500k
[10:29] <dmoyne> so apparently either with Gnome or KDE noway to edit menus !
[10:29] <nvashi2> HappyPills: I was thinking of installing my motorala wpc1810g wireless
[10:29] <Seveas> nice!
[10:29] <brion> New2ubuntu: rhythmbox should be fine with that
[10:29] <xamdm> DemisM, libdvdcss, just google for it
[10:30] <Daehlie> DemisM:sudo apt-get install vlc & apt-get install vlc-gtk
[10:31] <HappyPills> nvashi2, The only reason I had issues was because the version of ndiswrapper installed by Ubuntu didn't run my excel wireless card
[10:31] <membreya> done yet Amaranth ? :)
[10:31] <codemarauder> I tried installing ubuntu. But was not able to login after the install. Then I had to reboot the system and login to single user mode. I edited the passwd and shadow file and reset the passwd for root and the user that i created at the time of install.
[10:31] <HappyPills> I had to upgrade to 1.1, which was a pain
[10:31] <codemarauder> Is this a known bug?
[10:31] <nvashi2> piPoint why you change your runlevel from the default of 2
[10:31] <Amaranth> membreya: not quite :P
[10:31] <dmoyne> another bug I have the sound when entering a Gnome session but not with KDE session so with the KDE sound module of KDE control center I can play sound !
[10:31] <membreya> well hurry up!
[10:31] <Mestapheles> hey guys I'm stuck somewhere between a warty and hoary dist-upgrade.  I'm having dep conflicts, and apt-get -f install reports "error [1] "  Might this simply be a matter of waiting it out?
[10:32] <Seveas> codemarauder, it is known that you cannot login as root, that is NOTABUG
[10:32] <geneo91> lost a hub
[10:32] <Seveas> not being able to login as the user you created must mean you mispelled the password
[10:32] <codemarauder> Seveas, but i was not able to login with the user passwd that i set
[10:32] <codemarauder> Seveas, that's why i had to login in the bad way
[10:33] <codemarauder> Seveas, and this has happened every time i tried installing ubuntu
[10:33] <nvashi2> HappyPills: that is understandable .. you had to do it from source [ndiswrapper] ?
[10:33] <Seveas> codemarauder, that IS weird, please file a bug
[10:33] <HappyPills> yup
[10:33] <nvashi2> kewl
[10:33] <codemarauder> i just wanted to confirm whether this happened with others also?
[10:34] <HappyPills> but I had to install a whole heap of crap first, check out the ndiswrapper section of the Ubuntu unofficial faq if you are having issues
[10:34] <codemarauder> Seveas,
[10:34] <dwa_> hey garrut
[10:34] <nvashi2> I palan on looking at that b4 I put my wireless card in
[10:34] <geneo91> nite all
[10:35] <nvashi2> Geneo91: cya
[10:35] <andreas_> Does anyone know how to change locales?
[10:35] <nvashi2> the crew is almost all here
[10:35] <DemisM> none of the repositories have the dvd codecs and avi codecs?
[10:36] <xamdm> andreas_, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:36] <andreas_> thanks
[10:36] <xamdm> np
[10:36] <nvashi2> DemisM you can use olge /ogle-gui that is what I use to watch dvds
[10:36] <nmoore> DemisM: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html
[10:36] <nvashi2> works great
[10:37] <xamdm> DemisM, maybe jo have to download libdvdcss
[10:37] <rb2k> hi guys
[10:37] <nvashi2> and yes you will have to get liddvdcss
[10:37] <DemisM> oh ok
[10:37] <nvashi2> libdvdcss
[10:37] <nvashi2> cause even ogl has that as a depends
[10:38] <waxhead> hi everyone
[10:38] <rb2k> hi
[10:38] <nvashi2> hey
[10:38] <pinPoint> did i screw up something
[10:38] <pinPoint> no more sound at startup
[10:38] <DemisM> do the debian pkgs work on ubuntu for libdvdcss?
[10:38] <pinPoint> and i have to type startx everytime
[10:39] <xamdm> DemisM, http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.8/deb/ just download the .deb files and install them with dpkg -t file-name
[10:39] <pinPoint> runlevel is 5
[10:39] <Amaranth> Seveas, membreya, Myrtti: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21390
[10:39] <membreya> champ :)
[10:39] <nvashi2> ah what did you change other than stuff in xmms??
[10:39] <dmoyne> when trying to install kdm as a replacement for gdm with "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" after this action has no effect at all what is wrong ?
[10:40] <Myrtti> Amaranth: *kiss* on the cheek
[10:40] <waxhead> there's something on the unbuntu wiki that covers installing that stuff...
[10:40] <Amaranth> It took me 10 minutes but who is counting? :)
[10:40] <membreya> Amaranth: I'm impressed..it installed :)
[10:40] <xamdm> dmoyne, also after a rebbot, did jou do a /etc/init.d/gdm stop ??
[10:40] <Amaranth> I blame it on you guys asking me so many times. :P
[10:40] <nmoore> do ubuntu apply any patches to the default kernel?
[10:40] <pinPoint> nvashi2: i removed some stuff in synaptics not sure what sound stuff
[10:40] <Amaranth> membreya: Hopefully it'll do more but that's all I ever test. :P
[10:40] <Myrtti> ok, I'll mail myself that URL so I wont forget it
[10:40] <pinPoint> nvashi2: i cant test sound anymore
[10:41] <nvashi2> dmoyne: why change from gdm it is better [and I like kde and use it but use gdm]
[10:41] <pinPoint> i used to hear a beeeep but now its quiet
[10:41] <membreya> Amaranth: ya it works :) but I was impressed it installed on my amd64 :)
[10:41] <Initri> ::raises hand::
[10:41] <Amaranth> membreya: Check your system tools menus.
[10:41] <Amaranth> membreya: It's Python, it works anywhere Python does. :)
[10:41] <Initri> I'm baaaaaack. :P -- anyone know the proper boot: sequence to make Ubuntu recognize a Fasttrack TX2100 raid controller (crap, I know.. but still, it's something!)
[10:41] <nvashi2> ah now that was a bad mistake pinPoint if you remove stuff at least write it down if you are not sure you need it
[10:42] <rb2k> got some problems with the current Ubuntu and Kubuntu previews... can't get X running
[10:42] <dmoyne> to xamdm what do you mean with this "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" ! ; this command "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" is not supposed to do the job ?
[10:42] <rb2k> only a black screen
[10:42] <Amaranth> pinPoint: In a terminal run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[10:42] <rb2k> any known bug? (including a workarround *g*)
[10:43] <rb2k> << Laptop with Ati GFX Chip
[10:43] <xamdm> dmoyne, if jou don't reboot, gdm won't be stoped bevore nstall of kdm, so just stop it and start it with /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:43] <membreya> Amaranth: now get cpan to install ipnetv4 :)
[10:44] <xamdm> dmoyne, the dpkg-... just makes kdm default
[10:44] <dmoyne> to xamdm : ok I try !
[10:44] <xamdm> dmoyne, that stops the complete x session !!
[10:44] <xamdm> dmoyne, di it from a shell as root
[10:44] <Amaranth> membreya: ?
[10:44] <rempresent> need help real fast...
[10:45] <xamdm> rempresent, just ask
[10:45] <HappyPills> yaya. Anyone know of a decent graphical Fserving program? Or do I have to use wine and sysreset =P
[10:45] <rempresent> i can't play a .wmv file in xine or vlc or totem... what can i use instead
[10:45] <clx> hi all
[10:45] <rempresent> i just thought that i would be polite before blabbing
[10:45] <xamdm> rempresent, jou just need the w32-codecs and installt totem-xine
[10:45] <clx> people, can you show for me your sources.list?
[10:45] <clx> in private please
[10:45] <HappyPills> oooh, I havn't tried playing .wmv's yet
[10:45] <Amaranth> rempresent: WMV3 (made with WMP 9 or 10) is very spotty. Have you installed ffmpeg and/or w32codecs?
[10:46] <rempresent> where can you get the w32-codecs from
[10:46] <Gecko> Hello. I have a problem. I am running hoary on an amd64 laptop, with an ati radeon mobility 9700. Yesterday I tried to compileol a new kernel, <IP_ADDRESS>, using mostly the same configuration as the binary kernel bundled with Ubuntu, which is found in the /boot/config-* files. So I compiled the kernel using the debian tool (make-kpkg) and everything seemed fine, but when I tried to boot it, my screen went blank. Any clues to what could be wrong?
[10:46] <rempresent> no... can i do that with synaptic
[10:46] <nvashi2> hooray my warty to hoary upgrade is complete
[10:46] <rempresent> or "tec...
[10:46] <brion> Anybody using the php4 packages? Anybody had problems with scripts accessing files since the March 18 security update, even with safe_mode *off*?
[10:46] <Yldthing> i like vlc more than mplayer...but mplayer seems to be able to play more types of files
[10:46] <Amaranth> Gecko: Use grub to boot the kernel that came with hoary.
[10:46] <xamdm> rempresent, jou can get the codecs at the mplayer-homepage
[10:46] <Amaranth> Gecko: Why are you compiling your own kernel?
[10:47] <rempresent> xamdm i don't use mplayer
[10:47] <HostingGeek> I hope everyone is drinking bear as told
[10:47] <nico|m> hi! i'm having problems with k3b on ubuntu hoary: k3bsetup is broken, and I can't burn mp3 files anymore :-(
[10:47] <xamdm> rempresent, they just have the codecs :-)
[10:47] <xamdm> rempresent, just extract them to /usr/lib/win32
[10:47] <dmoyne> to xamdm : it dit not work for kdm but it had an interesting sideeffect : it brought back sound to KDE whenopening and closing !
[10:47] <HostingGeek> even if that means we have a channel full of drunks
[10:47] <HappyPills> nup wmv's don't work in totem and in vlc I just get sound =)
[10:48] <nvashi2> ah I am dring jack daniels
[10:48] <membreya> Amaranth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=98973
[10:48] <Gecko> Amaranth: Because to run the fglrx module, you need to have agpgart as a module as well, and all the Ubuntu kernels are with agpgart compiled in
[10:48] <waxhead> totem just core dumps on my system...
[10:48] <rempresent> thanks
[10:48] <xamdm> dmoyne, strange, just tryed to uninstall gdm ??
[10:48] <HappyPills> nvashi2, Drink Wild Turkey instead
[10:48] <waxhead> gmplayer does it all for me these days
[10:48] <Amaranth> Gecko: ubuntu has a package to install fglrx
[10:48] <nvashi2> hehe wild turkey is nice too but this jack is 30 years old
[10:49] <Gecko> Amaranth: yes. The module itself. But that doesn't work very well
[10:49] <dmoyne> to xamdm : you with get rid of it !
[10:49] <xamdm> is there a fglrx-pakage in warty ??, just need it tomorrow...
[10:49] <Amaranth> membreya: meh, no clue.
[10:49] <membreya> nvashi2: ..mix it with coke :)
[10:49] <Amaranth> xamdm: yeah
[10:49] <HappyPills> gmplayer... got a repository for it?
[10:49] <xamdm> Amaranth, thx
[10:49] <waxhead> hmmm
[10:49] <rempresent> xamdm what is the terminal command then for the extraction
[10:49] <membreya> Amaranth: your programming skills have left me sad :P
[10:49] <HappyPills> You don't mix 30 year old bourbon!
[10:49] <Amaranth> membreya: I'm a Python programmer. :P
[10:50] <xamdm> rempresent, just install unp with apt-get install unp, and then run unp filename
[10:50] <rempresent> xamdm what is unp
[10:50] <nvashi2> I was not going to reply to that
[10:51] <xamdm> rempresent, then jou can move the folder to usr /lib/win32 with "sudo mv foleder /usr/lib/win32"
[10:51] <xamdm> rempresent, unp is a scripped that can handel any unpacker
[10:51] <rempresent> alright, i hear ya
[10:51] <nvashi2> would be ruining the flavor
[10:51] <waxhead> HappyPills, this is what I did: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:51] <nvashi2> I am savoring the flavor
[10:52] <Initri> Did anyone catch my Promise question ? - I've started the install process, but it doesn't seem to detect the RAID (FastTrack TX2/100) - and shows each device as a seperate IDE entity.  Ideas ?
[10:52] <waxhead> anyone got an ATI radeon video card working on warty?
[10:52] <xamdm> Initri, the Raid-feature is not in kernel 2.6, so badluck :-), promise has no driver for kernel 2.6
[10:53] <Initri> Crap card anyway..
[10:53] <Initri> Hmm.
[10:53] <xamdm> Initri, any distro with kernel 2.4 should work, sorry
[10:53] <Initri> Since it won't recognize the 'hardware' RAID, will it be ok to use each IDE device seperately as though it was just a regular HDD controller ?
[10:53] <xamdm> Initri, ore buy a 3ware raid-controller as i did :-)
[10:53] <rempresent> what is the command that you can type to kind of clean up your system from junk
[10:53] <HappyPills> waxhead, thanks
[10:53] <Initri> -- i.e., I know the promise controllers are 'software'.
[10:54] <nvashi2> waxhead I had the old ati 128 pro ultra te working but have not tried my radeon on there
[10:54] <xamdm> Initri, the promise is a SOftware-raid
[10:54] <Initri> I have a 3Ware Escalade in my desktop machine. :)
[10:54] <rempresent> and how can i uninstall apps that i don't use easily, maybe even graphically
[10:54] <pinPoint> Amaranth: thanks, ubuntu-desktop got it
[10:54] <xamdm> rempresent, synaptoc
[10:54] <dmoyne> to xamdm : funny I got rid of gdm but my logging manager is not kdm still the same that I thought was gdm ; how to know about the name of this one ?
[10:54] <pinPoint> mp3 music and streams are working
[10:54] <HostingGeek> 'synaptic'
[10:54] <xamdm> rempresent, just search the ap and choose uninstall :-)
[10:54] <Initri> Xamdm:  But it shouldn't be a problem ignoring it and just each device as if it were a normal HDD controller, correct ?
[10:54] <nvashi2> pinPoint you still need to make note of stuff you uninstall
[10:54] <pinPoint> ya
[10:55] <Ubunovice> How do I make ubuntu recognize my monitor so I may have normal refresh rates?
[10:55] <xamdm> Initri, jes, ther is also a projekt that tries to get tat to work, just forgot the name
[10:55] <waxhead> nvashi2, I had it going on a Radeon 9600 on mandrake, but it was using xfree86 so wasn't so bad... but I haven't seen much on Xorg... was hoping someone mighth ave done it.. or had a link
[10:55] <xamdm> Initri, it trys to handel the controller via lvm , just google a little while
[10:55] <Initri> I'm not too worried about.. even linux-based software raid is better than nothing.
[10:56] <xamdm> dmoyne, ist it kde 3.4 ??, KDM is able to use scinns the :-)
[10:56] <Pointwood> I just upgraded to hoary and now sound in mplayer and vlc doesn't work - anyone got a hint?
[10:56] <pinPoint> heh
[10:56] <HappyPills> oh, I already have w32codecs installed...
[10:56] <xamdm> dmoyne, do jou have the shutdown ore reboot option in kde-logoff ??, then it should be KDM :-)
[10:57] <xamdm> dmoyne, can't test just swithed to gnome when i installed ubuntu, its faster ...
[10:58] <pinPoint> nvashi2: do you get laggy sound on xine
[10:58] <pinPoint> like audio out of sync
[10:58] <dmoyne> to xamdm : yes it is KDE 3.4 ; my option when logging off is I can restart ; what is scinns ?
[10:58] <pinPoint> on dvd
[10:59] <Pointwood> vlc gives me the following errors:
[10:59] <Pointwood> [00000297]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[10:59] <Pointwood> [00000297]  main audio output error: couldn't find a filter for the conversion
[10:59] <Pointwood> [00000297]  main audio output error: couldn't set an output pipeline
[10:59] <HappyPills> how do I update the locate repository?
[10:59] <xamdm> dmoyne, jou removed gdm ??
[10:59] <nvashi2>  ok going to reboot to see how my upgrade to hoary went brb
[10:59] <waxhead> HappyPills, what do you mean?
[10:59] <New2ubuntu> how is everybody this fine evening?
[10:59] <xamdm> dmoyne, did jou try to reboot ??
[11:00] <dmoyne> yes I did but I will reckeck no I can !
[11:00] <HappyPills> locate -u /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db
[11:00] <membreya> hmmm so all I need to do to change to kubuntu is apt-get install kubuntu-desktop huh :)
[11:00] <HappyPills> I think it's that line
[11:00] <membreya> what are peoples opinions of kubuntu ?
[11:00] <HappyPills> seems to be doing something
[11:00] <waxhead> HappyPills, oh irght... try sudo updatedb &
[11:00] <nvashi2> pinpoint: it does that somethings that why I moved back to xmms and I got my default cd player to work in warty as well to see if it was the app
[11:01] <dmoyne> to xamdm : gdm out !
[11:01] <nvashi2> rebootingnow see you guys in a minute
[11:01] <HappyPills> waxhead, oops, I leapt first =P
[11:01] <waxhead> HappyPills, then you have to wait for it up finish as it will lock the locate database
[11:01] <eSPete> how do i write to my hd from the 4.10 live cd_
[11:01] <HappyPills> yep
[11:01] <HappyPills> and it has 120 gb's to index
[11:02] <xamdm> dmoyne, if jou do a ctral+alt+f1, an run ther a /etc/init.dgdm stop, and then just type kdm what happens ??
[11:02] <gyo_mac> hi all
[11:02] <dmoyne> to xamdm : I try and come back
[11:03] <gyo_mac> Is there a tool under macos9 to calculate md5sums ?
[11:04] <HappyPills> oooh, netlimiter... any decent linux equivalents? (It limits download/upload bandwidth on an application level)
[11:04] <DemisM> do you guys think the best install would be just base install and from there install the rest?
[11:04] <dmoyne> to xamdm : nothing special : I mean no error message on exec !
[11:05] <dmoyne> to xamdm : should I reboot no I do not see why this would cure the problem !
[11:05] <xamdm> did, kdm startup ??
[11:05] <omniscient> do the ubuntu forums have a link to like a page of unanswered threads like what linuxquestions has?
[11:05] <xamdm> dmoyne, if got the strange feeling that gdm doesn't et stopped ...
[11:06] <xamdm> get i meant
[11:06] <sabmoc|sleeping> DarthFrog, poing!
[11:06] <dmoyne> to xamdm : simply it has been removed !
[11:06] <sabmoc|sleeping> wake up! its 2am!
[11:06] <sabmoc|sleeping> woot!
[11:06] <sabmoc|sleeping> omg, need sleep
[11:07] <xamdm> dmoyne, but it seemed to be running ore am i wrong ??
[11:08] <dmoyne> to xamdm : ok I see what you mean it is removed from HD but maybe still running in memory ; so if I reboot this problem should definetly be cleared !
[11:08] <eSPete> is there a way to restore deleted files from a live cd?
[11:09] <xamdm> dmoyne, yes, i also hate rebooting linux, but sometimes nothing else helps
[11:09] <dmoyne> to xamdm : you say it I do it ; I rebbot and come back but with no real hope !
[11:11] <membreya> does anyone have a link to some screenshots for kubuntu????
[11:12] <xamdm> membreya, lokks like any other KDE-distro ??
[11:13] <Tomcat_> Look at screenies of KDE 3.4... that's it. :)
[11:13] <Tomcat_> It doesn't even have an Ubuntu-like theme. :o
[11:13] <dmoyne> to xamdm : my display manager when logging is not gdm but neither kdm otherwise it has changed a lot !!
[11:14] <xamdm> dmoyne, simple grey ??, than it is xdm, hm
[11:15] <gyo_mac> I have downloaded a ubuntu livecd hoary for ppc, the livecd seems to block on the languages settings process, it is normal ?
[11:15] <membreya> ok xamdm :)
[11:15] <dmoyne> to xamdm : it is blue wiwth simply a box for name and password and an icon like enter keyboard key to enter session when clicking on it !
[11:16] <xamdm> dmoyne, shure that it is not a bad-configured kdm ??
[11:16] <kalis> any Swedes in here?
[11:17] <foobarishness> Not that I can see
[11:17] <eSPete> i'm danish
[11:17] <foobarishness> Australian
[11:17] <dmoyne>  to xamdm : if I do "dpkg-reconfigure xdm" in root mode it says xdm not installed !
[11:18] <xamdm> dmoyne, ps -ax, ist there a kdm-prozess ??
[11:18] <kalis> the thing is that i am still struggling to get all my files and folders on my w2k serve to act as supposed. The share is mounted from fstab.
[11:18] <kalis> so i would really have neede a swede in here ;)
[11:19] <Yldthing> lol i've been so lazy....haven't even touched fstab....everytime i boot i just type sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/c -t vfat
[11:19] <xamdm> isn't ther a swedish chaneel #ubuntu-?? available ??
[11:20] <kalis> Yldthing, i am mounting 6 different w2k SMB shares from fstab at boot
[11:20] <garrut> is anyone in here running valknut?
[11:20] <dmoyne> to xamdm : I see qmgr and kded !
[11:20] <Yldthing> oh
[11:20] <Yldthing> well, that might be a pain to type each time ;)
[11:20] <xamdm> dmoyne, back in five minutes, ill try to install kdm...
[11:20] <kalis> Yldthing, yes it is ;)
[11:21] <dmoyne> to xamdm : ok I wait
[11:22] <Yldthing> i should sit down and memorize fstab syntax sometime...
[11:23] <membreya> hmmmm stupid question, but with kubuntu, can i continue to use my apps like tvtime, thunderbird and galeon?
[11:23] <garrut> Yldthing: something like /dev/hda1 /mnt/c vfat defaults 0 0
[11:23] <Yldthing> yeah
[11:23] <Yldthing> i was told somewhere that it needs to be defaults 000 0 because each 0 is a bit
[11:23] <xamdm> dmoyne, the blue thing has a kubuntu slogan in the right corner ??, that is kdm

[11:24] <Yldthing> i also wanna map network drives with samba
[11:24] <brion> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8051
[11:24] <xamdm> dmoyne, just try the kcontro to change the layout of KDM
[11:24] <Yldthing> but i'll figure it out some other time....too tired to read
[11:24] <quar> how can i kill giftd?
[11:25] <quar> killall -9 giftd doesnt seem to work
[11:25] <dmoyne> to xamdm : yes it has a kubuntu slogan in the right corner but with kcontrol I was supposed to have another design ! ; I will try to see what happens when reinstalling the watch !
[11:25] <Sonium> how can I list the processes running under a given user name?
[11:25] <Yldthing> ps -e  ?
[11:26] <sabmoc|sleeping> hi jbailey
[11:26] <jbailey> hi sabmoc|sleeping
[11:27] <sabmoc> jbailey, so are you really really busy?
[11:28] <xamdm> dmoyne, the blue-thing is kdm
[11:28] <jbailey> sabmoc: At this exact moment, no.  I'm contemplating going back to bed.
[11:28] <quar> How can i kill a running proccess?
[11:29] <quar> is there some kind of task manager with a GUI?
[11:29] <xamdm> gnome-sessions-manager
[11:29] <dmoyne> to xamdm : then the designthrogh kcontrol is not related to it whatsoever as it has no impact at all !!!!
[11:29] <membreya> hrm, according to http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/faq.php I should just need to type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" I'm getting package not found
[11:30] <quar> xamdm, I dont have that bin?
[11:30] <dmoyne> to xamdm : can you please try to tailor ir through kcontrol in root mode ?
[11:31] <xamdm> dmoyne, i opend kcontrole if jou look there to the wallpaper joul see that it matches
[11:31] <quar> So no one can tell me how to kill a process?
[11:32] <Amaranth> quar: xkill
[11:32] <membreya> quar: find its PID
[11:32] <dmoyne> to xamdm : yes but this is the only thing that works all other features are not relevant !
[11:32] <deFrysk> quar killall <whatever process>
[11:32] <quar> tried that
[11:32] <deFrysk> what process is it ?
[11:32] <Amaranth> Applications->System Tools->System Monitor (at least in hoary)
[11:32] <garrut> kill -9 <pid>
[11:32] <Amaranth> it might be a zombie
[11:32] <quar> all it did is make more processes with a <defunct> flag?
[11:32] <Amaranth> defunct is zombie
[11:33] <Amaranth> you'll have to wait for init to clear them or reboot
[11:33] <xamdm> quar its gnome-system-monito sorry
[11:33] <deFrysk> simply use top
[11:33] <quar> the system monitor wont kill em either?
[11:33] <Amaranth> nope
[11:33] <quar> top didnt display them
[11:34] <Amaranth> it's just a fancy ps and kill wrapper
[11:34] <quar> killall -9 giftd doesnt even work???
[11:34] <Amaranth> defunct means you can't kill it
[11:34] <quar> so wtf?
[11:34] <Amaranth> init will have to clear it out or you'll have to reboot
[11:35] <quar> thats stupid
[11:35] <Amaranth> init should clear it out eventually, it might just take 24 hours :P
[11:35] <Amaranth> *shrug* that's just how it works
[11:35] <Amaranth> someone tried to explain it to me once and i ran away
[11:35] <quar> so i have to reboot to fix something, this is sounding allot like another OS i know of ;)
[11:35] <Amaranth> quar: actually...
[11:36] <Amaranth> quar: log out and back in :)
[11:36] <topyli> hrm. an upgrade touched xorg.conf, setting DefaultDepth to 1, thus breaking X. this is the second box where it happened.
[11:37] <quar> yea last couple upgrades screwed me up as well, im scared to upgeade this clean install now
[11:37] <Burgundavia> topyli: you filed a bug for that>'
[11:37] <topyli> Burgundavia: not initially, but seeing it on two different boxen i may have to :)
[11:37] <andreas_> Anyone here from Denmark?
[11:38] <garrut> topyli: i think it already is
[11:38] <andreas_> I need some help
[11:38] <quar> aww i figured it out, they all had a parent process
[11:38] <topyli> garrut: you mean it's already reported?
[11:38] <garrut> i think so
[11:38] <garrut> read something somewhere about that this week anyway :)
[11:38] <andreas_> Damn kubuntu!
[11:39] <dmoyne> to xamdm : I tried to install xdm and install it as a replacement and I still have the same logging manager that is not kdm for me but a default screen mana !ger
[11:39] <quar> dmoyne, try dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:39] <andreas_> Would almost wish i had a Windows
[11:40] <xamdm> dmoyne, the blue thing is KDM !!!
[11:40] <jsgotangco> nyaahha
[11:40] <xamdm> dmoyne, kde3.4 gave kdm a themeengine
[11:40] <xamdm> but kcontrol isnt able to contole it for now ...
[11:40] <dmoyne> to xamdm : so you think it might be affected by theme !
[11:41] <andreas_> Can someone please help me? I am really hung up here
[11:41] <xamdm> andreas_, whats the problem ??
[11:41] <xamdm> dmoyne, shure
[11:42] <andreas_> xamdm> After installing Kubuntu I cannot get my danish letters back and i am going nuts
[11:42] <dmoyne> to xamdm : you see this does not explain why when installing another logging manager you still have no other choice !!!!
[11:43] <xamdm> dmoyne, just try /etc/init.d/kdm stop and then run /etc/init.dwahtever start, for me that works.
[11:43] <andreas_> dpkg-reconfigure locales does not help even though i have set the three DK thingies as the only ones
[11:43] <Fackamato> hm, my gnome has fucked up
[11:43] <Fackamato> whenever I start it, it says "panel is already started, so I'm quitting" like 6 times
[11:43] <Fackamato> then I get no panels, no desktop
[11:43] <Fackamato> can't do shit, do I control+alt+backspace
[11:43] <Fackamato> and I'm there again, after I login ;(
[11:43] <Fackamato> I'm in xfce now
[11:44] <Ruby> hey guys... i need some help... i installed ubuntu and now i get a black screen on X start... some one here told me to change my driver from vm to vesa or something like that, but i cant seem to get to these configurations... anyone can help?
[11:45] <Fackamato> Ruby: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or X(tab)
[11:45] <Ruby> i just write that down in the command line?
[11:46] <Fackamato> ?
[11:46] <Fackamato> that's the file you're looking for
[11:46] <Fackamato> edit it
[11:46] <Ruby> how? :P
[11:47] <Ruby> vi it?
[11:47] <Fackamato> whatever editor you want
[11:47] <waxhead> ok.. what's the go with burning music CD's on ubuntu?
[11:47] <Fackamato> you need to be root or su
[11:47] <Fackamato> waxhead: k3b or something
[11:47] <Ruby> ok... and what driver do i set? vesa?
[11:48] <waxhead> Fackamato, so nothing gnome based in the repositorys?
[11:48] <waxhead> k3b the only way to go?
[11:48] <Fackamato> waxhead: there's something
[11:48] <Fackamato> gnometoaster or something
[11:48] <Fackamato> don't recall exactly
[11:48] <Fackamato> but k3b is very good imo
[11:49] <garrut> has anyone tried nero linux?
[11:49] <onkarshinde> Anybody using torrent for hoary preview? How many seeders are there?
[11:49] <sii> does ubuntu have anything like packages.debian.org?
[11:49] <Ruby> ow, yeah, Fackamato, can i edit it using a Live CD?
[11:49] <Fackamato> yes
[11:49] <Fackamato> sii what do you mean?
[11:49] <Fackamato> package search online?
[11:50] <Ruby> thank you very much :D
[11:50] <Fackamato> not that I know of - use apt-cache search
[11:50] <Fackamato> np
[11:50] <Ruby> im going to try...
[11:50] <sii> Fackamato: yupp, exactly
[11:50] <Ruby> bb
[11:50] <sii> Fackamato: apt-cache search doesn't cut it
[11:50] <scandium> sii, http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/
[11:50] <Dudu678> hello, i have a question about smbmount
[11:50] <scandium> let's you search hoary and warty
[11:51] <sii> scandium: ah, great, thanks
[11:51] <dmoyne>  to xamdm : try to install gdm as a replacement and telle me if you succeed ?
[11:52] <xf_> howdy; is building a hoary cd via jigdo (which i assume is possible) recommended, or is using one of the pre-produced iso's much preferred?
[11:52] <kain> xf_, there are a certain number of updates since hoary release
[11:53] <heatwave> xf_: just go for the torrent :)
[11:53] <kain> so be prepared
[11:53] <KarlosII> how do i get the screen resolution option to use 100 mhz
[11:53] <xamdm> dmoyne, works fine, didn't need to remvoe it to get kdm work ;-)
[11:53] <kent> does this meen my harddisk is about to blow? : hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } [...]  ide: failed opcode was: unknow
[11:53] <xf_> heh just found my local isp is mirroring the hoary prerelease iso, so i'll grab that
[11:53] <kain> kent, most likely yes, save your data and buy a new one
[11:53] <xf_> many people install ubuntu via jigdo/debootstrap methods?
[11:54] <xf_> did a warty installation via debootstrap the other day, worked reasonably well minus a few hiccups
[11:54] <dmoyne>  to xamdm : you mean you could install something different from what we call "kdm" ?
[11:54] <kent> kain, hmm. The strange thing is that this computer (its my brothers actually) had a harddisk that went nuts a week ago. This is a new harddisk. Perhaps its the mainboard?
[11:54] <xamdm> dmoyne, yes
[11:55] <xamdm> dmoyne, easely
[11:55] <kain> can be a bunch of things
[11:55] <dmoyne>  to xamdm : I have just re-installed gdm ; I will check what happens and report back to you.
[11:55] <KarlosII> anyone know how?
[11:57] <HostingGeek> KarlosII: edit xorg.conf
[11:57] <KarlosII> HostingGeek, well it says it should be using it
[11:58] <KarlosII> http://www.pastebin.com/261273
[12:02] <membreya> does anyone know how I install kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:04] <syltty> Does anybody how to get 'esddsp skype' to work in Hoary ?
[12:05] <nvashi> well all my screen setting have dropped down to 1024*768
[12:05] <scandium> syltty, if you find out, please tell me..having the same problem here
[12:07] <nvashi> installing hoary on another PC to seehow my wireless will fair on it
[12:07] <syltty> scandium:not much luck finding solution. I guess I have to wait for next skype version
[12:07] <nvashi> so far looking like I will be doing what you did HappyPills
[12:08] <Dudu678> does any body know why when i mount by using smbmount i get strange characters in file names, but when i do it in konqueror using smb:// i see everything ok?
[12:08] <scandium> syltty, I can get sound working (also recording using gnome's sound recorder) but skype is just silent...I hope they implement native alsa support soon, their FAQ has that item for a long time promising "in the future"
[12:10] <scandium> but that's the deal with non-free software ;p
[12:10] <gilles> the install on a laptop "acer travelmate 230" doesn't work well, the pb concerns xorg, apparently the computer doesn't support depth 24, and i have to chose depth 16. why doesn't ubuntu hoary preview doesn't recognize that ?
[12:11] <Gecko> Hey, is there any smart way of making an initrd image in ubuntu?
[12:12] <membreya> mkinitrd?
[12:12] <quar> howcome when i try to stream using the music player it says theres no application for handling mpeg? I have mplayer? what other packages do i need to stream mpeg?
[12:12] <membreya> :)
[12:12] <Gecko> membreya, well, that requires me to specify each and every module to load
[12:13] <quar> anyone?
[12:13] <quar> whta packages do i need to stream radio stations using the mplayer in hoary?
[12:14] <heatwave> quar: youre using xmms?
[12:14] <HappyPills> huh... I saw my name.
[12:14] <HappyPills> ndiswrapper stuff?
[12:15] <quar> heatwave, no the music player
[12:16] <garrut> wonder why...
[12:16] <heatwave> quar: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-a52dec gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec
[12:16] <dwa_> zweeeeeeeeeeets
[12:17] <heatwave> then restart rhythmbox (the music player) and try again
[12:17] <nvashi> HappyPills: I am using my primary PC [nvashi2 is 2nd PC]  and yes ndiswrapper may be for me as well
[12:17] <quar> heatwave, all of those?
[12:18] <quar> screw it ill use xmms
[12:18] <heatwave> quar: yes, theyre just plugins though
[12:18] <heatwave> quar: wont take up your cpu/mem or anything
[12:18] <HappyPills> yep. it's a painful experience alright...
[12:19] <HappyPills> anyway, what graphical ftp browser would people say has the closest look to Filezilla?
[12:19] <nvashi> HappyPills: that why I am doing it on one other 4 PCs I have laying around 1st
[12:19] <heatwave> HappyPills: i dont use ftp, only sftp, but i hear gftp is good (also supports sftp btw)
[12:20] <HappyPills> yep. was having some issues installing gftp
[12:20] <deFrysk> or using the ftp connector of nautilus
[12:20] <HappyPills> maybe I'll try wine with filezilla =P
[12:21] <dmoyne> to xamdm : ok you were wright it was kdm with a funny look that does not fit kcontrol tailoring features ! ; thanks a lot for your help ; that will be all for a while ; when changing logging manager you have to reboot which I did not ! ; thanks again.
[12:21] <ruffian> Hi
[12:21] <ruffian> i am having problem with my sound server
[12:21] <dwa_> tell us about it
[12:21] <ruffian> after login in, i get the following message
[12:22] <HappyPills> oh wow. Nautilus handles it pretty well
[12:22] <ruffian> device /dev/dsp can't be oped (Permission denied)
[12:22] <deFrysk> HappyPills, nautilus rules
[12:22] <dwa_> copy that
[12:22] <ruffian> The sound server will continue, using the null output device
[12:22] <mjr> ruffian, you're not in the audio group, fix that
[12:22] <ruffian> ah i see
[12:24] <membreya> wb Echylo :)
[12:24] <Echylo> :)
[12:24] <Echylo> I don't stay for long
[12:25] <Echylo> need to study math:)
[12:25] <membreya> bah
[12:25] <membreya> where's math get you
[12:25] <dwa_> good programming skills...
[12:25] <membreya> all you need to know in life is that "the man" will always screw you over
[12:26] <ruffian> Hmm, i did system -> User and groups -> select username -> User privileges -> select 'Use audio devices'
[12:26] <ruffian> Still not working?
[12:26] <dwa_> did you restart gnome?
[12:26] <ruffian> no
[12:26] <ruffian> hang on i will do that
[12:26] <ruffian> brb
[12:26] <dwa_> OK
[12:28] <dwa_> why?
[12:28] <membreya> eye candy :)
[12:28] <dwa_> why don't you just install kde?
[12:28] <sylvesterxxl> hi
[12:29] <deFrysk> -eyecandy +bloat
[12:29] <membreya> sorry, there was a macintosh running osX at work today...
[12:29] <deFrysk> dwa kununtu-desktop is the meta pack for kde
[12:29] <dwa_> i know
[12:29] <dwa_> but if one says he's going to install kubuntu i'm thinking reinstall
[12:30] <dwa_> and that's not nessecary
[12:30] <membreya> nope, dwa_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[12:30] <membreya> hooray for hoary
[12:30] <sylvesterxxl> how viewing divx in ubuntu and mp3?
[12:30] <dwa_> good luck membreya :) i'm sticking with my gnome
[12:31] <HostingGeek> Who here likes clearlooks and wants to give their opinions on how stuff should look please /msg me
[12:31] <dwa_> omg hostinggeek is back
[12:31] <membreya> dwa_: I'm getting a new 200gb sata in 2 weeks and reinstalling ubuntu :) if i don't like kubuntu it's no huge issue
[12:31] <HostingGeek> dwa_: no i haven't left
[12:32] <dwa_> kde is just as good as gnome membreya
[12:32] <sylvesterxxl> im new in ubuntu ... how can i see divx films and best program for listening mp3?
[12:32] <HostingGeek> The devels current need more people than me and 2 other to say what looks good and what looks bad
[12:32] <membreya> dwa_: but prettier :)
[12:32] <dwa_> it's just a matter of taste
[12:32] <dwa_> i disagree
[12:32] <dwa_> gnome looks prettier :)
[12:33] <mjr> sylvesterxxl, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:33] <HostingGeek> GNOME looks more proforsanal
[12:33] <KarlosII> sylvesterxxl, speaking which, my freaking totem player in ubuntu hoary plays sound and no video with just the visualizations showing :/
[12:33] <KarlosII> HostingGeek, agreed
[12:34] <membreya> looks more what now? oooh you meant professional
[12:34] <dwa_> hehe
[12:34] <waxhead> sylvesterxxl, I followed this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:34] <Echylo> clearlooks is just fine HostingGeek  ;)
[12:35] <membreya> HostingGeek: there's a great applet for gnome with a dictionary...it holds immense value :)
[12:35] <sylvesterxxl> thanks all
[12:35] <HostingGeek> Ok still looking for 2 people to give their opinions
[12:35] <HostingGeek> they will show you mock ups and ask for a yes or no
[12:36] <Seveas> HostingGeek, opinions about what?
[12:36] <Echylo> the theme
[12:36] <Echylo> clearlooks
[12:36] <Echylo> I adore the olive one btw :p
[12:36] <Seveas> ah
[12:36] <KarlosII> what is clearlooks?
[12:36] <Seveas> I am just dist-upgrading to hoary, so no clearlooks for me yet...
[12:36] <Echylo> omg
[12:36] <Echylo> clearlooks = THEME
[12:36] <mjr> KarlosII, when that happens, you simply don't have the appropriate gstreamer video codec
[12:36] <HostingGeek> Ok if anyone does join #clearlooks on gimpnet
[12:36] <KarlosII> mjr, heh
[12:37] <HostingGeek> Echylo: Wrong!
[12:37] <Echylo> damn
[12:37] <HostingGeek> clearlooks == engine
[12:37] <Echylo> :p
[12:37] <Echylo> well
[12:37] <KarlosII> HostingGeek, huh waa???
[12:37] <Echylo> how do you call the theme then?
[12:37] <dwa_> who cares HostingGeek
[12:37] <HostingGeek> then there is also a clearlooks metacity
[12:37] <Echylo> dwa_ you're not really friendly eh,
[12:38] <KarlosII> mjr, I just installed the totem xine and now it works
[12:39] <mjr> yes, that'll play some things that the gstreamer variant won't
[12:40] <KarlosII> :>
[12:40] <sylvesterxxl> how access to irchispano org?
[12:40] <HostingGeek> Hmm no one cares enough about clearlooks to join the channel?
[12:40] <HostingGeek> clearlooks == ubuntu hoary default engine
[12:41] <membreya> default?
[12:41] <sylvesterxxl> how can acsess to irc hispano?
[12:41] <Echylo> is there a sort of mixing program for ubuntu like pcdj for windows?
[12:41] <SlackShrike> How-To upgrade the kernel of ubuntu-live-i386-hoary ?
[12:41] <nvashi> HostingGeek: just installing hoary so can't give an opinion yet
[12:42] <KarlosII> hoary is awesome
[12:42] <KarlosII> nopw if only i could get 100 resfresh rates
[12:42] <nvashi> hehe
[12:43] <sylvesterxxl> when i start ubuntu it says something about no pnpbios? but the rest loads ok and computer seems to work fine ...
[12:43] <KarlosII> no plug n play bios
[12:43] <sylvesterxxl> whats pnpbios?
[12:43] <SlackShrike> How-To upgrade the kernel of ubuntu-live-i386-hoary ?
[12:43] <KarlosII> u must have it disabled if it's a recent board
[12:43] <KarlosII> SlackShrike, WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[12:44] <Seveas> KarlosII, please keep it down on the caps...
[12:44] <HostingGeek> nvashi: come and look at the screenys
[12:44] <sylvesterxxl> pnpbios is the responsible to detect printer webcam and usb devices?
[12:44] <SlackShrike> How-To upgrade the kernel of ubuntu-live-i386-hoary ?
[12:44] <nvashi> ok
[12:44] <GarySaved> I see 'Ubuntu Live' avalible in the list of packages.  What is that for?
[12:44] <nvashi> where at?
[12:45] <HostingGeek> nvashi: when you see the first one you will automaticly install clearlooks first
[12:45] <KarlosII> SlackShrike, WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[12:45] <HostingGeek> nvashi: #clearlooks on irc.gimpnet.net
[12:45] <HostingGeek> nvashi: #clearlooks on irc.gimp.org
[12:45] <membreya> in kubuntu now :)
[12:45] <nvashi> will come with my alter nvashi2
[12:46] <supos> When I try to start Firefox on Hoary all I get is "bus error" and then it quits. Has anyone experienced this?
[12:46] <GarySaved> Does that allow me to make a live disk specific to my machine's hardware?
[12:46] <sylvesterxxl> it is a recent board but when it loads ubuntu says nopnpbios ... what is the function of pnpbios? how to make it works fine?
[12:46] <mjr> KarlosII, sylvesterxxl, in case you're interested, in this thread there are instructions on getting a gstreamer-ffmpeg (divx/etc) codec: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-223.html
[12:47] <KarlosII> mjr, I yeah i realized after
[12:47] <jazzka> hi!
[12:47] <KarlosII> SlackShrike whem i will upgarde the kernel, acoPortuguese <-0---- someone who speaks portugese help this dude
[12:47] <VladDrac> I wonder if I should upgrade my sarge to hoary...
[12:47] <jazzka> any web browser for ubuntu not based on mozilla or gecko engine?
[12:48] <GarySaved> VladDrac, I had Sarge, and switched.  This box has never worked as well.
[12:48] <KarlosII> gecko engine is grreat
[12:48] <sylvesterxxl> it is a recent board but when it loads ubuntu says nopnpbios ... what is the function of pnpbios? how to make it works fine?
[12:48] <VladDrac> gary: as well as it did with sarge?
[12:48] <Echylo> wb
[12:49] <sylvesterxxl> my new board is asus p5p800
[12:49] <GarySaved> VladDrac, MUCH better.  It detects everything on its own.  Debian never has never had that ability.
[12:49] <VladDrac> gary ah ok
[12:50] <VladDrac> well I love ubuntu on my laptop
[12:50] <KarlosII> sylvesterxxl, that's a bios setting
[12:50] <VladDrac> sarge runs fine on my desktop, so additional detection isn't really required
[12:50] <SlackShrike> when I go to bring up to date kernel of live, it I say that he does not know which is kernel that he is bringing up to date.  He break!
[12:50] <sylvesterxxl> how setting it?
[12:51] <KarlosII> sylvesterxxl, I'm not the mobo manufacturer
[12:51] <sylvesterxxl> ok
[12:53] <membreya> gah, my system crashing is really giving me the irrits
[12:54] <membreya> i blame reiserfs
[12:54] <KarlosII> membreya, ehehhe I haven't seen a kernel panic ont his box in months :) of course the last time was when , messed up the kernel compile
[12:54] <KarlosII> reiserfs has given me no issues and has in fact saved his sytem on occasion
[12:55] <membreya> KarlosII: it's not that..just my system will freeze...but it won't :| it's weird it's usually when I access a web browser..but in kubuntu i was playing with power saving on the monitor and it locked
[12:55] <membreya> weird thing is, the mouse still works
[12:55] <membreya> i just can't do anything
[12:55] <Myrtti> reiser is the spawn of the devil
[12:55] <membreya> and then it takes ages for my grub to come up, like 5 - 10 seconds
[12:55] <KarlosII> Myrtti, the best thing in the world :)
[12:55] <Myrtti> reiser and fat16
[12:56] <KarlosII> hmm sounds more like but maybe I'm wrong a hardware issue
[12:56] <membreya> KarlosII: hdd is a SATA 120 western digital
[12:56] <membreya> it's only started happening since I placed reiserfs on
[12:56] <KarlosII> :)
[12:56] <membreya> when I get my 200gb I'm going back to ext3
[12:56] <KarlosII> and a 36 GB 10,000 rpm boot drive is too
[12:57] <mjr> yah, I do recommend ext3 over reiserfs for stability
[12:57] <membreya> i might keep reiserfs on my partition with my music videos though (40gb worth)
[12:57] <mjr> though I usually mean the stability of the file system in the case that some stray bit is turned over there :)
[12:57] <KarlosII> heh
[12:58] <onkarshinde> What is min memory requirement for Ubuntu 5.04?
[12:58] <KarlosII> 128 I think
[12:58] <mjr> membreya, I'd convert that too; it's not like a typical music video storage gains anything from using reiserfs anyway
[12:59] <membreya> mjr: isn't reiserfs only a poor fs with small files?
[12:59] <mjr> membreya, actually, I think it rather shines (performance-wise) with lots of files, which are typically small
[12:59] <mjr> ('cause, well, if there's lots of them, they can't be that large ;)
[12:59] <ruffian> mjr: Thank you. That message has gone. Just sorting out the mp3 issue, so i can start playing songs :)
[01:00] <membreya> i would do a convertfs back to ext3, but the last time I tried convertfs from ext3 to reiserfs my system died in the a$$
[01:00] <mjr> and yeah, 128 megs seems to be a good realistic minimum for starting to enjoy using gnome, but Ubuntu can be used with less (though then you might want to use a lighter desktop, such as xcfe)
[01:01] <mjr> membreya, haha, yes, I'd rather just copy the stuff over to the new 200 meg disk while it still fits, mke2fs and move the stuff back :)
[01:01] <onkarshinde> Dows Ubuntu by default installs XFCE?
[01:01] <membreya> 200meg? what sort of year are you living in mjr? :P
[01:01] <lok> onkarshinde, no
[01:02] <lok> you juste have to do an apt-get for get XFCE$
[01:02] <mjr> membreya, umm, I said _gig_. Did anyone see me say meg? You're all hallucinating.
[01:02] <membreya> lol :P
[01:02] <mjr> yeah, not by default
[01:02] <onkarshinde> lok: That is costly for me. I live in a country where brodband is still very expensive.
[01:03] <membreya> lol my poor mouse, where my thumb sits I've worn away the rubber and it's down to plastic
[01:03] <lok> onkarshinde, ubuntu install gnom then a greet dependency of xfce is with gtk so you don't have to dl a big stuff
[01:03] <membreya> only had it a few months :P
[01:03] <mjr> well; of course you _can_ use gnome with 2-figure amounts of memory, but then you'll have to flex your patience muscles
[01:03] <lok> and you can also use gnome
[01:03] <miniX> How i install my sound card ?
[01:04] <membreya> stay or go Echylo :P
[01:04] <Echylo> :D
[01:04] <Echylo> should or should I go
[01:04] <Echylo> :p
[01:04] <Echylo> fucked up phrase again
[01:04] <membreya> mwuahaha :D
[01:05] <membreya> hey Quinn_Storm :)
[01:06] <membreya> i scared him off :(
[01:07] <Echylo> you scare everyone
[01:07] <Echylo> not that surprising
[01:07] <miniX> How i install my sound card ?
[01:08] <Echylo> membreya help that miniX to proof you aren't mean
[01:08] <miniX> o
[01:08] <maddler> morning all
[01:08] <membreya> open the computer and put the card in ? i don't know ..how do you mean "install" the sound card?
[01:09] <New2ubuntu> good morrow Maddler
[01:09] <New2ubuntu> where prey tell, do you hail from?
[01:13] <supos> Anyone having problems with Firefox in Hoary? When I try to start it, it just fails with a "bus error"
[01:14] <miniX> where can i get dc++ to linux ?
[01:15] <suifur> miniX: sourceforge would be a good start... where the project is hosted...
[01:15] <miniX> sourceforge = direct connect ?
[01:17] <Echylo> no
[01:17] <Echylo> you can get it there
[01:17] <supos> noone? I need to firgure out if this is a Ubuntu issue or something else?
[01:17] <supos> figure even
[01:19] <mlambie> is there a way to clear the passwords stored with gnome keyring
[01:21] <KarlosII> http://poptech.blogspot.com/2005/03/why-adblock-is-bad-for-free-internet.html <----- rotflo
[01:21] <KarlosII> http://poptech.blogspot.com/2005/03/why-adblock-is-bad-for-free-internet.html <----- rotflol
 HostingGeek: Patch for PyXDG submitted upstream and to Ubuntu. :D
[01:22] <HostingGeek> Guys there will be a menu editor!
[01:22] <tuppa> hrm
[01:22] <tuppa> is Firefox broken with anyone?
[01:22] <Slashdotpimp> ahoy governors, hows the fucking kernel doing :)
[01:22] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: They didn't accept it and the menu editor still might not make it into universe...
[01:22] <tuppa> I can't seem to save any files by left-clicking on links
[01:22] <supos> tuppa: is with me
[01:22] <KarlosII> oooh
[01:22] <KarlosII>  gah gah
[01:22] <tuppa> cool, I'm not alone
[01:23] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: cont. work on the editor and hope PyXDG will be fix on time
[01:23] <supos> tuppa: do you get "bus error" too?
[01:23] <tuppa> no bus errors
[01:23] <HostingGeek> firefox works even?
[01:23] <supos> HostingGeek: Not for me
[01:23] <KarlosII> ff works for me
[01:23] <HostingGeek> it never works
[01:24] <HostingGeek> alway has memery leaks after 10 tabs are opened
[01:24] <KarlosII> ...
[01:24] <KarlosII> did you bugzilla the leaks
[01:24] <supos> When I try to start it, it quits with no messages. When I start it from the command line it returns "bus error"
[01:25] <visor> hey anyone could get sound from flash/firefox in hoary? i read in the wiki about the esd config file to allow apps not using esd natively to use sound but i just dont have sound but going to flash site and then opening a new address crash it
[01:25] <miniX> Where can i download Valknut ?
[01:25] <kain> hi there, what's the best gui frontend to iptables for you?
[01:25] <kain> on ubuntu hoary
[01:27] <visor> kain: try Firestarter...   http://firestarter.sf.net
[01:27] <kain> thanks
[01:29] <queuetue> Can someone explain WT ***F*** is wrong with linux and audio?  Why does every program need exclusive ownership of the audio channel, and why does every program die or freeze when it encounters a locked audio instead of dealing with it gracefully - since it MUST HAPPEN TO EVERYONE!
[01:29] <queuetue> (sorry so exciteable)
[01:29] <kain> visor, nice app
[01:30] <visor> queuetue: its not linux fault
[01:30] <queuetue> visor, Who's fault is it?
[01:30] <mjr> queuetue, doesn't happen to everyone; us with audio hardware and drivers capable of mixing don't have the problem. Anyway, it can be fixed on the ALSA level by using dmix, that's just not usually configured by default (dunno why, perhaps adds latency?)
[01:30] <petemc> queuetue: yours, for not writing a patch to fic it
[01:31] <visor> queuetue: the _problem_ if you can call it like that is that the sound deppends uppon the architecture you use to play the sound trough your soundcard
[01:31] <queuetue> petemc, I've contributed plenty to both the kernel and various projects that ship with ubuntu, thank you very much.
[01:31] <petemc> sure :)
[01:31] <visor> queuetue: there is ALSA and OSS, thats the lower level stuff, then there is Arts, ESD and some others i dont really used
[01:32] <mjr> I do agree that it's a pain in the ass and dmix should be configured by default unless there are really horrible side effects
[01:32] <queuetue> mjr, So, what hardware do I need tp [urchase t make this problem go away?
[01:32] <petemc> dmix doesnt work all the time
[01:32] <mjr> (such as not being able to play video and audio in sync, in which case it should be fixed and then configured by default)
[01:32] <queuetue> Besides a full-size keyboard. :)
[01:32] <petemc> i was under the impression this is what esd is for
[01:32] <mjr> queuetue, sb live works for me
[01:33] <visor> queuetue: but when an application does not have ESound support within it would try to use directly your sound card, so, any app that does not have either support for esd compiled in, or a plugin will either not get sound or crash
[01:33] <queuetue> mjr, So, with an sb live, you can use kphone, totem, gaim and mpg123 all atr the same time?
[01:33] <mjr> queuetue, well, haven't tried that, but no reason to think one couldn't
[01:33] <stazz> queuetue: does dmix work at all for you?
[01:34] <stazz> queuetue: as in.. can two alsa-supporting applications (mpg123 isn't one) output sound simultaneously?
[01:34] <queuetue> stazz, Is there a repository where I can get dmix?
[01:34] <mjr> you don't need to get it, it comes with alsa
[01:34] <visor> solution? use the damn ALSA-Sink in gnome-audio properties in preferences instead of esd :)
[01:34] <stazz> queuetue: wget http://zzats.intterweb.com/asoundrc
[01:34] <stazz> queuetue: place that under your home directory with .asoundrc and dmix "is set up for you"
[01:34] <queuetue> Well, if I already have it, then it's not working. :)
[01:35] <mjr> queuetue, as I said, it's not configured by default
[01:35] <stazz> queuetue: Could you please try what I just mentioned
[01:35] <queuetue> mjr, Ah, ok.  reading now.
[01:35] <mjr> and by the way, dmix can be configured to work also for alsa's OSS emulation (though I don't know how, since I haven't had to)
[01:36] <mjr> (just that a friend did it)
[01:36] <visor> but yet there are some problems :S im trying to have sound from flash in firefox but i cant, i have to turn off esd :S, and if i select the alsa output to the sink properties then i would not have sound from various programs at a time
[01:36] <queuetue> stazz, once the file is inplace, what needs to get restarted?
[01:36] <stazz> queuetue: xmms for example, you have to set it to use alsa-output and "default" as the sound device
[01:36] <Shortbus> Hello everyone, is there any way we can reset the panels? I kind of messed up everything and I want to know if this is possible! Thanks! =)
[01:37] <stazz> queuetue: end esd for example, needs to be started with esd -d default
[01:37] <stazz> queuetue: but mplayer and xmms should work simultaneously, you just have to set them to use alsa.
[01:38] <Shortbus> Yeah, is there anyway to do that?
[01:38] <mjr> more info on dmix apparently here: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:38] <queuetue> sudo esd -d default brings me to some shell...
[01:39] <Shortbus> queuetue - is this addressed to me? *hopes*
[01:39] <mjr> hmm, that document does say that the old OSS api wouldn't work with dmixing
[01:39] <visor> Shortbus: maybe deleting ''~/.gnome2/panel2.d''  :)
[01:41] <queuetue> Bah!  Why is audio so complicated?
[01:41] <stazz> queuetue: didn't it work?
[01:41] <queuetue> How do I know what formats my card needs? Or if it needs arts or esd or polywhatever or alsa...
[01:42] <stazz> erh, you're just making it complicated.
[01:42] <mjr> your card doesn't need arts or esd or polywhatever, those are higher level stuff
[01:42] <queuetue> stazz, sudo esd -d default bring me to a prompt and I don;t know what to do there.
[01:42] <mjr> don't run it as root
[01:43] <queuetue> mjr, if I don't run it with sudo, it reports that it'sd already running.
[01:43] <stazz> queuetue: you don't necessarily have to run esd, it's just a point I made.
[01:43] <stazz> queuetue: try it with xmms & mplayer first
[01:43] <mjr> then kill it, or whatever
[01:43] <madstop> while you're on the subject of sound server, can anybody help me deal with this error that happens every time I log in to hoary kde:
[01:43] <madstop> "Sound server fatal error:
[01:43] <mjr> audio stuff is too complicated, but not that complicated
[01:43] <madstop> cpu overload, aborting
[01:44] <mcnl_1> hello :)
[01:44] <Shortbus> visor: nope, but there is %gconf.xml that i can't delete
[01:45] <visor> Shortbus: then why dont you just remove the panels and add new ones?
[01:45] <Ruby_> guys... i need some help... when istart ubuntu (new installation) i get a blank black screen on X start... some one edvised me to change the driver in xorg.conf from nv to vesa, i did but i still get the same problem... help?
[01:46] <New2ubuntu> how do I use conqueror to bring up another local computer on my network?
[01:47] <madstop> New2ubuntu, in the "Go" menu, click on network folders
[01:48] <madstop> New2ubuntu, and then you should see an icon for Samba Shares.  Click on it
[01:48] <visor> Ruby_: try a lower refresh sync
[01:48] <queuetue> Gaim does not appear to support alsa...
[01:48] <New2ubuntu> madstop I don't have a network thing in my K menu
[01:48] <Ruby_> visor: linux noob here... didnt understand a thing of what your saing...
[01:49] <madstop> In the maien menu, New2ubuntu , there should be a menu marked "Go"
[01:49] <visor> Ruby_: uhmm ok, you did the standard install but when it loads the login manager the screen goes blank?
[01:50] <madstop> In the Konqueror menu, New2ubuntu , not the K menu
[01:50] <New2ubuntu> OH
[01:50] <New2ubuntu> ok
[01:50] <Ruby_> i gues... i doesnt only go black... i a second or two the screen goes in stand by mode... havent seen this before enywhere...
[01:50] <New2ubuntu> OK
[01:50] <New2ubuntu> I found go
[01:50] <queuetue> If I kill esd, then "esd -d default" it dtill brings me to some shell...
[01:51] <madstop> sorry, I wasn't clear New2ubuntu -- do you see Samba Shares?  if you don't, you might not have Samba support installed
[01:51] <New2ubuntu> I do
[01:51] <New2ubuntu> it says it can't find a workgroup
[01:51] <New2ubuntu> where do I configure my work group?
[01:52] <madstop> hmm, New2ubuntu -- I get that error when the other machines on my Lan aren't turned on--
[01:53] <visor> Ruby_: well can you access at least a virtual console? (Alt+F1, Alt+F2....)
[01:53] <New2ubuntu> its on
[01:53] <Ruby_> yeah... i can...
[01:53] <madstop> are you accessing a windows workgroup by any chance?
[01:53] <queuetue> How do I launch esd in daemon mode?
[01:53] <New2ubuntu> yeah
[01:53] <New2ubuntu> I have a console up
[01:53] <visor> Ruby_: what is your videocard and display and so?
[01:53] <ReD_MiDNighT>
[01:53] <madstop> if so, then configuring the workgroup in windows and enabling shares etc should do it
[01:54] <Ruby_> visor: its an old Nvidia... Gforce 2 i think...
[01:54] <ReD_MiDNighT>      ?
[01:54] <queuetue> Linux audio is such a *&#$% mess...
[01:54] <madstop> mine worked "out of the box", New2ubuntu , so I'm not sure I can help with your setup.
[01:55] (ReD_MiDNighT/#ubuntu) peoples how to connect to the internet from ubuntu?????????
[01:55] <garrut> lol
[01:55] <ReD_MiDNighT> lol
[01:55] <sdogi> wow
[01:55] <queuetue> Do I have to run esd as a background task in a console?
[01:56] <New2ubuntu> Ok
[01:56] <New2ubuntu> then lets just say I wanted to browse on that computer
[01:56] <New2ubuntu> what prefix would I put ahead of the computer name?
[01:57] <ReD_MiDNighT> facking english russian forever
[01:58] <garrut> ok...
[01:58] <Ruby_> erm... visor? :(
[01:58] <queuetue> Even that doesn't work - esd belches so much debug junk to the terminal that it locks up after a few seconds, running in the background...
[01:58] <visor> Ruby_: well then do this in a virtual console...  ''dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common''
[01:58] <visor> Ruby_: oh i forgot ''sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common''
[01:59] <Ruby_> i need root for this?
[01:59] <visor> Ruby_: that should give you a wizard in console to set up the display and video card, try to select the right choices and then it should do, if not then ask then for help
[02:00] <visor> Ruby_: you dont use root in ubuntu, you use sudo
[02:00] <visor> so, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common... i already wrote that
[02:00] <kresten> Hi everybody! Is it possible to install java through apt-get?
[02:00] <Ruby_> oh... ok... have to remember that... thanks a lot :D
[02:01] <deFrysk> kresten, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:01] <kresten> deFrysk, thanks!
[02:01] <deFrysk> kresten, happy reading :)
[02:01] <queuetue> Does anyone know how to restart esd so it does not tie up a console?  How does it normally get started?
[02:02] <vaijr2002> good morning everyone
[02:03] <garrut> queuetue: dunno, but if you start it from a console just put a & behind the command
[02:03] <kain> do you know if there is something similar to kmilo (for thinkpads) for gnome?
[02:03] <visor> queuetue: esd &
[02:03] <vaijr2002> anyone any good with xmms
[02:03] <vaijr2002> think i got everything ok but still no sound
[02:04] <garrut> vaijr2002: yeah i can press play like a pro
[02:04] <vaijr2002> lol
[02:04] <queuetue> garrut, visor, unfortunately, it spits such volumes of junk that the console is unusable.
[02:04] <vaijr2002> i got all the plugins configured and stuff
[02:05] <visor> queuetue: so what is this you want to do at the end?
[02:05] <garrut> queuetue: start it from the menu: applications - run application
[02:06] <topyli> vaijr2002: plugins like the output plugin for example? :)
[02:06] <vaijr2002> yeah
[02:06] <vaijr2002> dunno if i am missing one or not
[02:06] <dwa_> does sound work in other apps?
[02:06] <vaijr2002> no
[02:06] <vaijr2002> i get no sound at all
[02:06] <dwa_> then i'm guessing that's your problem
[02:06] <vaijr2002> soundblaster audigy 2 platinum ex
[02:06] <queuetue> visor, what I want to do is use more than 1 audio application at a time.  I've been told dmix makes this possible (it didn't.) and that esd does, (kind of, but not many applications support it.)
[02:07] <dwa_> try to change your multimedia system
[02:07] <vaijr2002> um
[02:07] <vaijr2002> where?
[02:07] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : preferences > multimedia selector
[02:07] <dwa_> multimedia system selector
[02:07] <vaijr2002> in xmms right?
[02:07] <dwa_> no in gnome
[02:07] <vaijr2002> oh ok
[02:07] <underlord> im on a cable broadband system, in the rain sometimes the modem dropes out for a sec and reconnects, the problem is that its hooked in over the usbnet module, and whenever the modem resets my ubuntu installation goes offline, i have tried removing and adding the usbnet module, and also running dhclient, but it seems the kernel doesnt even create the new device in /dev when it comes back, what can i do to avoid constant reb
[02:08] <vaijr2002> cant find that
[02:08] <dwa_> underlord : try not to put your modem outside in the rain
[02:08] <vaijr2002> found it lol
[02:08] <underlord> the modem isnt in the rain :P
[02:08] <vaijr2002> my card doesnt show in output
[02:08] <visor> queuetue: im affraid that only esd applications or arts one's can do that but there is a dirty hack wich is starting an app to use esd like this:  esddsp spyke
[02:09] <visor> err, esddsp skype
[02:09] <visor> for example
[02:09] <vaijr2002> just alsa osd osss
[02:09] <dwa_> what is it on now?
[02:09] <vaijr2002> alsa
[02:09] <underlord> dwa_: its to do with the temprature, different metals contract at different rates and cause noise, so when rain comes in my usualy hot climate sometimes modems reset
[02:09] <linuxboy> does hoary have a splash screen on boot ?
[02:10] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : try esd or alsa
[02:10] <apokryphos> linuxboy: no
[02:10] <visor> linuxboy: no it hasnt, but there is some hack around...
[02:10] <dwa_> that;s really strange underlord
[02:10] <Fu2|xAz> boo
[02:10] <underlord> its a normal thing in my area
[02:10] <queuetue> GAH, why can't any of the distributions get together and solve the audio and printing problems in linux?  I've been using it as a desktop for 6 years, and no one has made any headway on either front.  it's all myterious "try this - try that - x works for me - coming soon" ...
[02:10] <Jesterace> wee netsplit
[02:10] <linuxboy> visor: any url to the hack ?
[02:10] <vaijr2002> testing pipeling
[02:10] <apokryphos> linuxboy: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/
[02:11] <Fu2|xAz> haha! im scary!
[02:11] <kain> about bootsplash, I see a thread regarding usplash, there is some packages somewhere, btw I see that the kernel installed have "splash" ad parameter, if I go into framebuffer mode with vga=whatever I see a sort of icons popping around during boot
[02:11] <dwa_> where do you live underlord ? venus?
[02:11] <underlord> sydney, australia
[02:11] <Tomcat_> queuetue: I guess most people don't have problems with the way it is today, and so it's okay for them. I haven't had desktop audio problems in the last 5 years in Linux.
[02:11] <underlord> on optus cable
[02:11] <darkkyo> where can i found a good sources.list for ubuntu hoary 5.04 preview?
[02:11] <vaijr2002> when i do test it doesnt stop testing]
[02:12] <dwa_> i'm sorry i don't have any experience with modems stopping because of the rain
[02:12] <Tomcat_> queuetue: I agree that it's not perfect the way it is. But I guess there's too many people who don't have problems, so nobody fixes anything. :)
[02:12] <visor> kain: strange, i didnt, just plain higher resolution but no icons or eyecandyness ar all
[02:12] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : you have to stop it yourself
[02:12] <apokryphos> linuxboy: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8257
[02:12] <queuetue> Tomcat_, So you can just use kphone, totem, xmms, mpg123, gaim .. all simultaneously with a stock debian/ubuntu install?
[02:12] <vaijr2002> ok
[02:12] <underlord> well, not exactly because of the rain, because of the temprature, and it doesnt stop perminently, just momentarily
[02:12] <kain> visor, those icons appears at the top of the screen, overriding kernel woutput
[02:12] <kain> output*
[02:12] <kain> and they are ugly :P
[02:12] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : if it doesn't work make sure you have your audio drivers loaded
[02:13] <underlord> but hoary doesnt seem to care when it comes back online and refuses to acknolage themodem is there
[02:13] <dwa_> open a console and enter: ps aux|grep sound
[02:13] <Tomcat_> queuetue: It's not like using them all simultaneously is a "standard" task.... I wouldn't do that even in Windows. And even in Windows problems occur when you do that kind of stuff. :o
[02:13] <dwa_> sorry vaijr2002 : type: lsmod|grep sound
[02:13] <kain> visor, this is my grub line: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-686 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash vga=792
[02:13] <queuetue> Tomcat_, Well, using kphone, xmms and gaim simultaneously is certainly a "standard" task... Does this work for you?
[02:13] <kain> I added only vga=792
[02:14] <queuetue> Tomcat_, Because it does not for me.  Typically, one wins, one loses and one dies.
[02:14] <visor> linuxboy: there is http://wiki.nanofreesoft.org but seems to be down right now
[02:14] <underlord> same thing happens if i just disconnect the usb connector and reconnect it, ubuntu must be somehow initialising it at boot
[02:14] <vaijr2002> soundcore               9824  2 snd
[02:14] <Tomcat_> queuetue: The last time I had xmms and gaim running they both worked. Same with xine and gaim... :o
[02:14] <visor> kain: strange, i have the same but different vga value
[02:14] <vaijr2002> thats what i get
[02:14] <kain> visor, nanofreesoft was down even yesterday
[02:15] <visor> kain: no, i downloaded the debs yesterday
[02:15] <dwa_> so your sound card is detected properly
[02:15] <Tomcat_> queuetue: As I said, I don't believe the situation is perfect, but *maybe* most people don't have problems... I don't know people who use Linux and have audio problems. Or maybe they don't talk about it. It's hard to tell. :)
[02:15] <kain> strange, I read the thread about usplash and wanted to download debs but no connection
[02:15] <queuetue> Tomcat_, You're not answerring my question, but thank you for trying.
[02:15] <visor> well if anybody wants them i can upload them
[02:15] <visor> to my site
[02:15] <vaijr2002> that the detection stuff for soundblaster audigy 2?
[02:15] <kain> visor, they works?
[02:15] <dwa_> no for the general sound driver
[02:16] <kain> that would be nice
[02:16] <visor> kain: in my ati M7 mobility (AKA 7500) does
[02:16] <Tomcat_> queuetue: Sorry I thought it was more of a statement or request for discussion... didn't see it as a question. I can't answer it, sorry. :o
[02:16] <queuetue> Anyone else, is there a distro that gets closet to having audio work?  One that's worked out all the conflicts between all of the competing technologies of alsa, oss, dmix, arts, esd, polywhatever, etc?
[02:16] <kain> I have a i915 that uses i810 driver.. too bad
[02:16] <queuetue> s/closet/closer/
[02:17] <visor> kain: however it seems that only for booting because when shutdown it does show nothing but the plain text but yet it is still a hack not a finished thing
[02:17] <dwa_> try this vaijr2002 : lsmod | grep emu10k1
[02:17] <kain> visor, yes, I read the related thread
[02:17] <kain> but giving it a try would not be bad
[02:17] <kain> "breakmyubuntu"
[02:17] <kain> :D
[02:17] <vaijr2002> ok
[02:17] <visor> queuetue: buy a SB Live card or something than you get natively full duplex and all that fancyness
[02:18] <vaijr2002> bunch of stuff showed up
[02:18] <queuetue> visor, Ok, so this problem *can* be fixed with hardware - simply replacing it will make everything "just work"?
[02:18] <visor> kain: it doesnt install nothing else, you only need libfb, libstdc++ and another library i dont know, but yeah, you dont lose that much
[02:18] <kain> visor, k
[02:18] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : and you are sure gnome sound doesn't work? it's not just xmms?
[02:19] <DemisM> how do I add programs to my menus?
[02:19] <stazz> queuetue: didn't the dmix work for you at all?
[02:19] <vaijr2002> havent heard any system bells or anything
[02:19] <visor> queuetue: yeah, a friend of mine has one with this emu10k1 chip or something like that called and the multi sound thing worked in suse, mandrake, fedora and so
[02:19] <queuetue> stazz, absolutely no difference whatsoever.
[02:20] <vaijr2002> yeah i had it working in suse also lol
[02:20] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : go to preferences > sound
[02:20] <dwa_> in gnome
[02:20] <stazz> queuetue: are you sure you checked the settings with both xmms and mplayer?
[02:20] <apokryphos> DemisM: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[02:20] <stazz> queuetue: Those were the ones I told you try first try it with
[02:20] <vaijr2002> yes
[02:20] <visor> well brb
[02:20] <queuetue> stazz, I do not have mplayer installed.  My goal is to get kphone and gaim to work together.
[02:21] <vaijr2002> i get nothing testing the sounds for sound events either
[02:21] <queuetue> stazz, with mpd, if that is possible.
[02:21] <vaijr2002> ok gotta go for a few. bbl thanks for the help
[02:21] <bwlang> anybody know how to get nautilus to not open so many windows?
[02:21] <stazz> queuetue: well, I could tell you how but it seems you would make it a really time-consuming effort
[02:22] <queuetue> stazz, It already has been, but thanks for the suggestion that didn't work. :)
[02:22] <dwa_> did you start the soundserver vaijr2002 ?
[02:22] <dwa_> is there a check with start soundserver on startup?
[02:22] <stazz> queuetue: it _does_ work with _certain_ applications
[02:22] <stazz> queuetue: as in applications that support alsa
[02:23] <queuetue> stazz, I'm looking to get it to work with the specific applications I mentioned.  Other applictions do not interest me especially.
[02:23] <stazz> queuetue: the rest can be solved with artsd/esd.
[02:23] <vaijr2002> yes
[02:23] <vaijr2002> says to start it at startup
[02:23] <stazz> queuetue: you're not working with me here :)
[02:23] <dwa_> mmm
[02:23] <vaijr2002> yeah kinda strange to me too
[02:23] <queuetue> stazz, I was not aware we were working on *anything* - it appears I have a hardware problem.
[02:24] <stazz> queuetue: That's not necessarily true.
[02:24] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : did you try the forums?
[02:24] <stazz> queuetue: I have a soundcard that appears not to support native mixing.
[02:24] <dwa_> vaijr2002 : not sure if i can help you with this
[02:24] <queuetue> If spending 20 bucks on a new soundcard saves me from amorning of hopeful voodoo configuration, then yes - I have a hardware problem.
[02:24] <stazz> queuetue: and I can play just about everything simultaneously..
[02:24] <stazz> queuetue: with very minimal configuration.
[02:25] <queuetue> stazz, Can you play sounds from gaim. kphone and mpd simultaneously?  This is what I am trying to do.
[02:25] <vaijr2002> well thanks for trying dwa
[02:25] <queuetue> stazz, Other applications do not really interest me at the current time.
[02:25] <stazz> queuetue: You've said that repeatedly and I know what you're trying to do.
[02:26] <queuetue> stazz, Then why do you keep giving me generic advice and hope that it might work if I use the correct applications?
[02:26] <stazz> queuetue: gaim (esound using dmix) + mpd (dmix) is doable, kphone (arts using dmix) will work too.
[02:26] <stazz> queuetue: Because that would be the first step to the solution I would have been proposing.
[02:27] <queuetue> stazz, By doing nothing more than editing the file you showed me earlier, you are saying that kphone, gaim and mpd all work for you.
[02:27] <stazz> queuetue: No, I never said that.
[02:27] <queuetue> stazz, That was meant as a question. :)
[02:27] <vaijr2002> back in a bit. gotta take kiddies to school
[02:28] <p88> In FreeBSD there is a chflags command. What is this command in linux?
[02:28] <queuetue> Ok, i am looking to get kphone, mpd and gaim all working at the same time.  A solution that does something differnet does not interest me right now, even from an academic standpoint.
[02:28] <kain> p88, maybe chattr?
[02:29] <stazz> queuetue: I very, very well know what you are wanting to do. I even have a solution for you.
[02:29] <p88> chflags is a command to set a file "system immutable" or "user immutable"
[02:29] <kain> yeah
[02:29] <kain> sudo chflags uchg file-name(s)
[02:30] <queuetue> stazz, Thanks for all your help.  I suspect that if you keep "helping" me than no oe else will, though.
[02:31] <stazz> queuetue: You're really being an asshole.
[02:31] <stazz> queuetue: I mean, I didn't even get started!
[02:32] <stazz> queuetue: I was planning to tell you how to use both arts and esd simulatenously with dmix to allow you play sound from *any* application simultaneously.
[02:32] <Nermal> just get rid of arts and esd
[02:32] <Nermal> use alsa
[02:32] <Nermal> both are a pain in the ass
[02:32] <stazz> I've *never* had any trouble with esd.
[02:33] <Nermal> esd is pretty evil
[02:33] <stazz> and as esd supports alsa, it goes very well with dmix-using applications.
[02:33] <apokryphos> aRts is fine for what it does
[02:33] <Nermal> and uneeded to a large extend with hardware mixing
[02:33] <queuetue> stazz, Ok, I appreciate your plan, but I was hoping to find someone that was less stuck in the 'planning' phase, and more interested in helping me actually solve the problem.
[02:33] <apokryphos> though officially unmaintained by a dev now, I believe.
[02:34] <stazz> queuetue: You know, I really could have told you how to do it, as in, get it out of the planning phase ;)
[02:34] <Nermal> "I don't know why and I'm not yet motivated to fix it since my views on esd are mostly unprintable."
[02:34] <Nermal> - Alan Cox
[02:34] <Nermal> :)
[02:34] <queuetue> stazz, You could have, but for some reason have not yet.  Thanks for the effort, but maybe you should "help" someone else.
[02:35] <queuetue> It's getting difficult to stay civil here.
[02:35] <Nermal> queuetue, tried just using alsa ?
[02:35] <stazz> Nermal: yes, I told him how to. he's not interested.
[02:35] <Nermal> ah
[02:35] <queuetue> Nermal, Some applications (namely, gaim) do not work with alsa.
[02:35] <Nermal> ah
[02:36] <kent> queuetue, you dont have to talk like that. If your not happy with what some one tries to do, just ignore.  But it actually seems like he tries to help you..  :)
[02:36] <stazz> he's just impatient.
[02:36] <queuetue> kent, Unfortunately, if someone is trying to help you - no matter how misguided, then other generally will not.
[02:39] <kent> queuetue, Well, then just stop talking to the person you feel is misguided? It seemd like a discussion that was starting to go overheated.. and thats never good.  Just ignore. Its better.  :)
[02:40] <stim_la_plak> hi
[02:41] <kent> btw, will performance decrease alot if i disable dma on the ide? I got some strange errors from the drive last night and thought I might try if something happens if U turn of dma.  (Like, will the dvd-burner become *slow* or something).
[02:41] <stazz> kent: with dma is faster than without :)
[02:41] <Nermal> around 10 times quicker usually
[02:41] <stazz> kent: and yes, performance will plummet
[02:42] <stim_la_plak> hi, sorry guys i'm a newbie, just installed ubuntu but how to connect to internet? im using adsl modem
[02:42] <stazz> what are the errors you're getting?
[02:42] <GarySaved> How do I put applications on the Panel? I do not see it on the menus.
[02:43] <dmouritsendk> GarySaved, drag and drop the launchers to the panel. Or rightclick it
[02:43] <GarySaved> Hehe ... I just woke up ...
[02:43] <GarySaved> Yep
[02:44] <stim_la_plak> hi, can someone assist me to get into internet?
[02:44] <dmouritsendk> GarySaved, you can add widgets to it by rigtclick it and selecting "add"
[02:45] <GarySaved> I have it.  I do not see an app to keep checking E-Mail.
[02:46] <dmouritsendk> GarySaved, there should be a inbox monitor
[02:46] <Nermal> stim_la_plak, easy unless you're using a usb modem
[02:46] <stazz> queuetue: heh, just noticed, gaim supports alsa ;)
[02:46] <stim_la_plak> no im using ethernet modem
[02:46] <Nermal> stazz, doesn't surprise me
[02:47] <Nermal> hum.. then just configure the ethernet card for dhcp ?
[02:47] <stazz> but it's via aplay, so it's basically about cheating :p
[02:47] <stim_la_plak> pk nermal
[02:47] <stim_la_plak> ok nermal
[02:48] <noxfu> I dist-upgraded from warty to hoary and flash broke.  Which package should I install to get flash working again in firefox?  libflash-mozplugin didn't work.
[02:48] <stim_la_plak> i'll try now, thanks
[02:49] <AcidWolf> anyone know how i might resolve Audio problem on Hoary PPC
[02:49] <AcidWolf> i have system sounds howeber have no other sound not even the drum sounds at login
[02:49] <AcidWolf> i have tried the Forums
[02:50] <queuetue> stazz, maybe yours does.  Mine doesn't.
[02:52] <dmouritsendk> AcidWolf, what system sound do you have? and are the sound drivers loaded?
[02:52] <darkkyo> anyone have a good sources.list for hoary 5.04 preview?
[02:52] <AcidWolf> i have Apple G4 Powerbook 15 Aluminium
[02:53] <AcidWolf> yes
[02:53] <AcidWolf> i did a full upgrade this afternoon
[02:53] <AcidWolf> fresh installation so i had alot to upgrade now that all that is done and still no sound
[02:53] <AcidWolf> however when i did apt-get upgrade there were some updates held back
[02:54] <AcidWolf> i had this same problem when i stepped up to hoary from warty about a month ago but this time i decided to download the hoary ISO instead of using apt
[02:55] <AcidWolf> everything is working fine except sound
[02:55] <dmouritsendk> AcidWolf, ok. can u try and paste the output of your /proc/asound
[02:55] <AcidWolf> ok give me a second
[02:56] <Tycho451> Hi, can anyone give me hand in changing the refresh rate on my new installed ubuntu?
[02:56] <Tycho451> The only thing I can select is 60Hz
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> time to manually edit the X config files then perhaps.
[02:57] <mjr> Tycho451, basically what you'll need to do is edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (or xorg.conf if in Hoary), the Monitor section, so that it spesifies your monitors capabilities
[02:57] <Tycho451> Ok, thanks. I'll try
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> you do mean select as in the 'set screen settings' control panel tool?
[02:57] <Tycho451> Yes Dr_Willis
[02:57] <mjr> Tycho451, namely, you'll want to spesify HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges, which you can get from your monitor manual
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> yea - that tool gets its infro from the XF86config-4 file or xorg.conf file.
[02:58] <mjr> (modern monitors should communicate these to the X server via DDC, but old monitors and/or cards may need the manual settings)
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> is this a lcd monitor by the way?
[02:58] <Tycho451> No, old 17" CRT
[02:58] <mjr> yep, thought as much :)
[02:59] <noxfu> I dist-upgraded from warty to hoary and flash broke.  Which package should I install to get flash working again in firefox?  libflash-mozplugin didn't work.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> if its real old. you may want to be very carefull. :P
[02:59] <mjr> so the X server is just making conservative assumptions so that it wouldn't blow your monitor up ;)
[02:59] <mjr> if you can't find the manual, some monitors have the values on the back, and then there's Google
[03:00] <Tycho451> It's not that old (I hope)
[03:00] <Tycho451> If im not back in 10min it blew up
[03:00] <stazz> the monitor's manual is a good place to look at, too :)
[03:00] <Tycho451> Yeah...like I ever had a manual for that thing...it was 2nd hand ;)
[03:01] <mjr> well, of course you can do it by testing too; it shouldn't be _too_ likely to blow up the device, but do so on your own risk anyway ;)
[03:01] <mjr> I'd still try googling first
[03:02] <Tycho451> And even if...not very usefull things have their way of disappearing after some years :D
[03:02] <Tycho451> I think theiy are on the back of it
[03:03] <Tycho451> I already had them looked up when I used PowerStrip to create a monitor driver one time
[03:03] <mjr> righto
[03:03] <caffinated> Tycho451: looking for monitor frequency ranges?
[03:04] <Tycho451> Yes
[03:05] <caffinated> for which model monitor?
[03:05] <Tycho451> Belinea 10 70 10
[03:05] <Tycho451> 17"
[03:06] <caffinated> Tycho451: http://www.belinea.com/monitore/Modell-Archiv/17_Zoll/archiv7010.asp
[03:06] <caffinated> good luck
[03:06] <mjr> righto
[03:06] <mjr> there they are
[03:06] <kresten> What is the command to create a new dir from the console?
[03:06] <Tycho451> Thanks a lot
[03:06] <mjr> kresten, "mkdir"
[03:06] <fgx> kresten, mkdir
[03:07] <kresten> thanks!
[03:07] <caffinated> no problem, i've done the frequency game more than a few times ;)
[03:07] <dieffel> hi all! i have a problem with gDesklets and my sensors... how can i fix that?
[03:08] <garrut> well, since you explained your problem perfectly, i dunno...
[03:08] <fgx> kresten, if the dir is empty you can remove it with rmdir, if not you have to use rm -rf "yourdir"
[03:08] <kresten> ok!
[03:08] <kresten> And copying?
[03:08] <fgx> kresten, cp
[03:08] <kresten> tnx :D
[03:09] <Lightboy> does n e one know how to get ubuntu hoary to play dvd's
[03:10] <Tycho451> Ok, XConfig is edited. But the resolution change tool still only displays 60Hz. Do I need to restart the XServer?
[03:10] <garrut> Tycho451: yes you do
[03:10] <Tycho451> ok, thanks
[03:11] <Lightboy> does n e one know how to get ubuntu hoary to play dvd's
[03:11] <DXT> i set a new personal record: winxp is running for a 1w 4h without crashing xD amazing. too bad i really want to install hoary now :(
[03:12] <_linux_newb_> xp runs fine for me
[03:12] <caffinated> DXT: i've had it up for months.  usually the reboot is due to drivers/updates
[03:12] <_linux_newb_> just dont like it but need it for work
[03:12] <BigIslandVegan> Might somebody help me set up bluetooth on Hoary ppc with PowerBook G4 1Ghz
[03:13] <BigIslandVegan> DXT what is 1w, 1 watt?
[03:13] <BigIslandVegan> :-p
[03:13] <DXT> im actually not the type that keeps his pc open without purpose.. just happened so it ran a week straight (lotsa bittorrenting..)
[03:13] <DXT> one whoop ass
[03:13] <CarlK_> Lightboy - start here https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:13] <CarlK_> BigIslandVegan - you done anything with a bluetooth mouse?
[03:13] <BigIslandVegan> i haven't Carlk
[03:14] <CarlK_> I hate haveing things pluged into my laptops's usb
[03:14] <BigIslandVegan> I'm wishing to get online through the Motorola v600 like I do on Mac OS X
[03:14] <dsoft> hiya
[03:14] <dsoft> where can i find user thrash?
[03:14] <Nermal> eh ?
[03:15] <dsoft> or, how can i empty my trash
[03:15] <Nermal> right click - > empty trash ?
[03:15] <caffinated> heh
[03:15] <DXT> people, a word of advice to you - don't buy the WR850G Motorola router.. it is THE MOST annoying piece of plastic and circuits ever created on this earth.
[03:15] <dsoft> but, where? i cant see any thrash icon
[03:15] <Nermal> rm -rf ~/.Trash/* ?
[03:15] <Nermal> on the panel ?
[03:15] <caffinated> dsoft: rightclick on the panel and add the panel applet
[03:15] <BigIslandVegan> I haven't figured out how to access any software tools to configure the bluetooth components which i found and installed with synaptic
[03:16] <Nermal> BigIslandVegan, hcitools
[03:16] <BigIslandVegan> hcitools, hmm, ok, is it gui?
[03:16] <dsoft> oki, thx :)
[03:16] <kresten> fgx, How do you change file permissions? Or... Which command do you use?
[03:16] <_linux_newb_> chmod
[03:17] <DXT> cya, installing hoary :D
[03:17] <fgx> kresten, chown "permission" file, i suggest you "man chown" "man chmod"
[03:18] <BigIslandVegan> Nermal, how do i find hcitools?
[03:18] <sdogi> just one question, where is ubuntu universe repository being fetched?
[03:18] <sdogi> debian woody?
[03:18] <Nermal> aptitude search hci ?
[03:18] <BigIslandVegan> Nermal, is this something you have used?
[03:18] <Nermal> a little
[03:18] <Nermal> I use it to talk to my nokia 6230
[03:18] <kresten> fgx, yeah, thats wat i'm doing all the time. I just need to learn the different commands...
[03:18] <underlord> in the packages whats the difference for example between a version of "0.8.8-1ubuntu1" and "0.8.8-1ubuntu2"?
[03:18] <Nermal> I've used hciconfig, and l2ping etc
[03:19] <BigIslandVegan> Nermal, would it allow me to get online, do you think?
[03:19] <Nermal> try this -> http://zenit.xs4all.nl/html/deb6230en.html
[03:19] <Nermal> probably, but it won't be too simple
[03:19] <Nermal> underlord, a different ubuntu build
[03:19] <dsoft> what the hell, how can i delete a file throught X-windows without send to trash? (dele)
[03:20] <Nermal> dsoft, gconf -> apps -> nautilus
[03:20] <Nermal> you have to enable it here
[03:20] <fgx> kresten, "apropos somethingyouneed", is your friend too
[03:20] <Nermal> and it's not through x-windows, it's through nautilus
[03:21] <Nermal> key: /apps/nautilus/preferences/enable_delete
[03:21] <BigIslandVegan> synaptic doesn't see hcitools, fyi
[03:21] <BigIslandVegan> i know you said apt but i'm not familiar with it
[03:21] <BigIslandVegan> this is all new to me
[03:21] <BigIslandVegan> the linux thing
[03:21] <Nermal> #apt-get install bluez-hcidump bluez-pin bluez-utils libbluetooth1 libsdp2
[03:22] <Nermal> thats in the howto I gave you
[03:22] <Nermal> try reading it
[03:22] <kresten> fgx, ???
[03:22] <Nermal> *pies of rage*
[03:23] <BigIslandVegan> yes, i am reading it now, just wanted you to know that
[03:23] <BigIslandVegan> and get any feedback
[03:23] <BigIslandVegan> you might have
[03:23] <dwa_> yawn
[03:23] <fgx> kresten, try "apropos owner" or "apropos permission" or "apropos whateveryouneed", you will have a list of possible commands you need
[03:23] <BigIslandVegan> i'm a bit afraid of trying something like apt that i'm unfamiliar with :-o i think i installed those bluez and other items already through synaptic
[03:23] <BigIslandVegan> sorry to bore you dwa
[03:24] <Nermal> synaptic is just a front end to apt
[03:24] <Nermal> geez
[03:24] <kresten> fgx, ahh ok.
[03:24] <dwa_> i'm just sleepy BigIslandVegan
[03:24] <Nermal> apt-get is *nice*
[03:24] <dsoft> how can i exe nautilus with root acces?
[03:24] <Nermal> you should try dpkg :P
[03:24] <Nermal> dsoft, you shouldn't need to
[03:24] <_Demian_> Amaranth, someone told me you know a way to edit the menus in hoary
[03:24] <BigIslandVegan> what is dpkg?
[03:24] <dsoft> well, then how can i really delete root trash files?
[03:24] <Nermal> the actual package manager
[03:24] <Amaranth> _Demian_: It's a little b0rked right now.
[03:24] <dwa_> BigIslandVegan : man dpkg
[03:25] <_Demian_> Amaranth, borked?
[03:25] <Amaranth> _Demian_: Ask again tomorrow. :)
[03:25] <Nermal> sudo rm -rf /root/.Trash/*
[03:25] <Amaranth> _Demian_: Not working.
[03:25] <Nermal> obviously
[03:25] <_Demian_> Amaranth, wil do
[03:25] <_Demian_> Amaranth, thnx
[03:25] <BigIslandVegan> oh yes, i guess i would check the manual in terminal, i haven't yet looked at the terminal :-o
[03:25] <dsoft> /home/.trash0/*
[03:25] <Amaranth> _Demian_: You can use the old version, if you'd like.
[03:25] <BigIslandVegan> you technoids have good patience with me :-)
[03:25] <Tycho451> Ok, refresh rate sucessfuly changed. Thanks for the help again.
[03:25] <Amaranth> It has issues for some people but if you don't have them you should be fine.
[03:25] <_Demian_> Amaranth, any version wil work for me :)
[03:26] <_Demian_> Tycho451, what kind of problems did you have with your monitor?
[03:26] <Amaranth> _Demian_: http://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/menueditor_0.3-1_all.deb
[03:26] <BigIslandVegan> well, it would be nice if they included the bluetooth stuff in the default package for ppc since there is no hardware support for the wifi chipset apple uses
[03:26] <_Demian_> Amaranth, thnx
[03:27] <BigIslandVegan> bluetooth would give a wireless option, with people's mobile phones
[03:27] <BigIslandVegan> very useful
[03:27] <BigIslandVegan> :-)
[03:27] <Tycho451> It wasn't identified properly, so I could run it only on 60Hz...which gave me a serious headache
[03:28] <BigIslandVegan> does that seem to be a reasonable suggestion?
[03:28] <_Demian_> Amaranth, ehm... how do I install it :)
[03:28] <_Demian_> Amaranth, I'm still a newbie :D
[03:28] <Amaranth> _Demian_: download it to your home folder
[03:28] <Tycho451> My next personal goal is to find out how to install a rpm. "rpm" told me to use alien.
[03:28] <Nermal> rpm -ihv ?
[03:28] <goldfish> yep
[03:28] <goldfish> alien command
[03:29] <_Demian_> Amaranth, I did
[03:29] <_Demian_> Amaranth, an then tried sh
[03:29] <Amaranth> _Demian_: Then open a terminal and type sudo dpkg -i menueditor_0.3-1_all.deb
[03:29] <_Demian_> right
[03:29] <_Demian_> thnx
[03:29] <BigIslandVegan> sorry nermal if my ignorance is giving  you pies of rage
[03:29] <_Demian_> I forgot about that one
[03:29] <Amaranth> then you should have an entry in your system tools menu
[03:29] <Tycho451> Alien isn't cooperating though...ati drivers produce an error and opera doesn't return any message
[03:30] <Nermal> BigIslandVegan, oh it's not just you
[03:30] <tritium> installing ati rpms is just begging for problems
[03:30] <BigIslandVegan> well, all of you folks are very appreciated, i must say
[03:31] <stim_la_plak> hi guys, can someone help me on the internet connection problem?
[03:31] <Tycho451> :D Thats what I wanted to hear tritium ;)
[03:31] <Tycho451> It's a x86_64 system to make things even more complicated I guess
[03:32] <tritium> the fglrx drivers don't work for you
[03:32] <tritium> ?
[03:32] <_Demian_> Amaranth, thnx
[03:32] <stim_la_plak> hi guys, can someone help me on the internet connection problem?
[03:32] <Amaranth> _Demian_: no problem
[03:32] <garrut> stim_la_plak: what problem
[03:32] <BigIslandVegan> thanks everybody for your suggestions, i will continue tomorrow with new knowledge
[03:32] <Tycho451> It's the first time I installed linux on my PC. I hope I can get it far enough to do my normal buissnes on it, so I can get used to it a bit better...
[03:32] <BigIslandVegan> woo hoo
[03:33] <Tycho451> Yes, tritium. They won't install
[03:33] <Tycho451> None of the two
[03:33] <tritium> Tycho451, the .debs won't install?
[03:33] <stim_la_plak> how to set up connection via ADSL broadband on stand alone pc
[03:34] <dwa_> stim_la_plak : using an usb modem?
[03:34] <Tycho451> I tried "alien fgl...rpm" and got an error
[03:34] <stim_la_plak> no..its network card modem
[03:34] <tritium> Tycho451, the first things you should try are the native ubuntu packages
[03:34] <httpdss> stim_la_plak: pppoeconf
[03:34] <garrut> then there's not much to setup is there, if your modem is correctly configured...
[03:35] <Tycho451> Is .debs the native ubuntu package?
[03:35] <Nermal> yah
[03:35] <Nermal> well.. debian package
[03:36] <Tycho451> ok, I'll search for the newest ati drivers in that format
[03:36] <Nermal> Tycho451, why
[03:36] <Phython> Is Martin Pitt on irc anywhere?
[03:36] <Nermal> is X not working ?
[03:36] <tritium> Tycho451, you need linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[03:36] <tritium> Tycho451, apt-cache search fglrx
[03:36] <mus> hello, what i wanna know is do i have to use X in order to surf the web, connect to irc and so on.
[03:37] <mus> my computer installed linux is so old that (pentium166MMX) i have difficulties on X
[03:37] <HostingGeek> Phython: yes he is in #ubuntu-motu
[03:37] <Tycho451> No, nermal, I just thought it would be generally a good idea to have the latest video drivers
[03:37] <Phython> HostingGeek: I found him as pitti, thanks
[03:37] <zooko> greetings, people of #ubuntu!
[03:38] <pitti> Phython: yes, here
[03:39] <apokryphos> zooko: hi :)
[03:39] <Tycho451> "apt-cache search fglrx" didn't produce any message, but maybe nermal is right. I shouldn't tamper with the videodrivers if it works right now.
[03:39] <Phython> pitti: Why doesn't /usr/local/share/locale work?
[03:40] <Phython> I have mo files installed there on my machine
[03:40] <pitti> Phython: this is something I want to convince upstream about
[03:40] <pitti> Phython: this should work, but doesn't at the moment
[03:40] <pitti> Phython: however, upstream just refuses to see the need for this :-(
[03:41] <Tycho451> Is using alien in a terminal window the normal way to install new software (like e.g. Opera)?
[03:41] <Phython> pitti: Send a patch to either read /usr/local/share/locale or have it configured via a file
[03:41] <NormD> mus: I vaguely remember lynx for browsing, can't remember a cli irc client, but I'm sure searching sourceforge or freshmeat would turn up a few hits.
[03:41] <Phython> pitti: no, they are refusing to see the need of supporting a new way to do stuff
[03:41] <tritium> Tycho451, you must not have enabled the restricted component
[03:42] <tritium> All the fglrx packages are in "restricted"
[03:42] <Phython> mus: irssi for irc
[03:42] <pitti> Phython: I explained them the need to install local translations into a separate directory, but Ulrich Drepper still insists that this is a packaging bug...
[03:43] <Phython> pitti: yeah, that's not a libc bug
[03:43] <Phython> the libc bug is not having a way to read arbitrary locale directories
[03:43] <mus> okey, and is it confortable to use NOT X software in usual usage or it is hard, what do you think
[03:43] <Nermal> mus, web -> lynx, links, w3c
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> heh - isent there an irc client called... 'irc' :P  the original?
[03:43] <Phython> and your original solution was rejected
[03:43] <Nermal> irc -> bitchx, ircii, irsii
[03:43] <HostingGeek> Tycho451: Opera make debs for opera
[03:43] <pitti> Phython: the missing libc feature is a _list_ of standard directories, not just a single one
[03:43] <Tycho451> tritium: I'm not sure what you are talking about
[03:44] <Phython> pitti: then add that
[03:44] <pitti> Phython: generally /usr/share/locale/:/usr/local/share/locale would be a nice default
[03:44] <NormD> heh.  a P166 would cramp just about everything...I'd look into retrobox.com for a "new" used machine....: )
[03:44] <pitti> Phython: for Ubuntu, we add /usr/share/locale-langpack
[03:44] <Phython> pitti: What you should add to the list is /usr/local/share/locale, not what you suggested originally
[03:44] <tritium> Tycho451, http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories
[03:44] <pitti> Phython: yes, I already added such a feature, but I asked upstream about how to improve it
[03:44] <tritium> Tycho451, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[03:44] <Phython> pitti: sure, but you want to have the list done by directory list, not modified time
[03:45] <pitti> Phython: priority by list position would be fine for other distros too, I guess, but not necessarily for the purpose of language packs
[03:45] <Phython> pitti: it should be enough for language packs as well
[03:46] <pitti> Phython: in the long run it will be enough, just not for Hoary
[03:47] <NormD> hrrm....how specifically "tailored" for ubuntu are the repositories? i.e. would packages work on another debian-based distro such as mepis?
[03:48] <Tycho451> Thx tritium. I have read it.
[03:49] <tritium> Tycho451, sure.
[03:49] <pitti> Phython: we did not strip translations for all our packages yet, but as soon as we did, we don't need the timestamps any more
[03:49] <Phython> pitti: Right.  Do be careful next time you bring something up with the glibc folks, you have to be very specific and not go down the wrong path while trying to show your point
[03:49] <pitti> Phython: however, the libintl code is a mess, that's why I asked upstream where it makes most sense to hook this
[03:49] <Phython> pitti: So, excluding the multiple directories bit (which is really only mentioned in passing) uli was right
[03:50] <jbailey> pitti: Well, no - the proble you mentioned before is still true.  Users are forced to install with a prefix of /usr
[03:50] <Phython> jbailey: which *is* the users mistake
[03:50] <pitti> Phython: I wouldn't call "stop this nonsense" and "it's a packaging bug" right if I explain the need for locally installed software...
[03:50] <Tycho451> Though I'm not sure I fully understand the first link
[03:50] <jbailey> Phython: No, the C library needs a locales search path concept.
[03:51] <pitti> Phython: it's not the user's mistake, it's a necessity with current libc (for the mo files)
[03:51] <pitti> jbailey: exactly
[03:51] <jbailey> Phython: I wouldn't do it with time stamps, I'd iterate through them in the right order and stop at the first one.
[03:51] <Phython> jbailey: yes it does
[03:51] <Lightboy> rythembox wont play flac or mp3's.. i have installed all the correct codecs. xmms handles it fine but
[03:51] <Phython> jbailey: right, that is the way most other path search work
[03:51] <tritium> Tycho451, you need to make sure you have listed the restricted component in your /etc/apt/sources.list, or you won't be able to find the fglrx drivers
[03:52] <jbailey> Phython: Right.  I will rework this patch to do it that way at some point in the future.
[03:52] <Phython> pitti: locally installed software in /usr is a packaging problem, not a glibc problem
[03:52] <pitti> AAAAAAAARGH
[03:52] <Phython> pitti: you indicated there is a problem users installing stuff in /usr.  That is something they shouldn't care about
[03:52] <pitti> Phython: dude, did you never install software with configure, make, make install in /usr/local=
[03:52] <Phython> pitti: you are correct in what you want, but the argument didn't do what you wanted  ;)
[03:52] <jbailey> Phython: Semantics.  We have to reasonably give them the option with a search path.
[03:52] <pitti> s/=/?
[03:53] <Phython> pitti: yes, and that is why I have files in /usr/local/share/locale
[03:53] <pitti> Phython: if the user is forced to put translations into /usr, this is not a packaging problem. it's entirely outside the concept of packages
[03:53] <pitti> Phython: but /usr/local/share/locale doesn't work ATM
[03:53] <Phython> pitti: it's sort of rare to have en_CA translations so I'm not surprised I didn't notice those translations not working
[03:54] <Phython> pitti: dealing with user installed software in /usr is a packaging problem
[03:54] <pitti> Phython: oh right, it's not immediately obvious to English speakers :-)
[03:54] <Phython> pitti: Having /usr/local/share/locale is a different problem
[03:54] <pitti> Phython: why is this a packaging problem?
[03:55] <Phython> pitti: If you put both problems in the same paragraph the important one (/usr/local/share/locale) is ignored
[03:55] <Tycho451> restricted is on. multi and universe is off
[03:55] <Phython> pitti: because what is in /usr is a distribution issue, if you want to work around users putting stuff in /usr then deal with it!
[03:55] <pitti> Phython: but the point is that without /usr/locale/share/locale, the user is *forced* to use /usr/share/locale
[03:56] <Phython> pitti: no, the user is forced not to have translations
[03:56] <pitti> Phython: which is crap either way
[03:56] <pitti> Phython: the clean solution would be to support multiple locale directories
[03:56] <Phython> pitti: yes, but people putting stuff into /usr is not the problem you want to solve
[03:56] <Phython> so bring it up only brings badness
[03:57] <pitti> Phython: but most upstream software just puts mo files into /usr/share/locale
[03:57] <pitti> Phython: exactly because of the lack of other alternatives
[03:57] <pitti> Phython: so while this is not the same bug, one is the consequence of the other
[03:58] <Phython> pitti: yes, translations not working is caused by /usr/local/share/locale not being searched
[03:58] <pitti> exactly
[04:03] <Tycho451> What would be the correct mount command to mount a NTFS partition (hdb1) read only to /mnt/hdb1? (I'm SU'ed and /mnt/hdb1 existst)
[04:04] <Tycho451> "mount --help" is not very detailed
[04:05] <tritium> Tycho451, http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[04:05] <_ronny_> hi, i can't burn any cd's with joliet :-/ "mkisofs returned an unknown error (code 1)"
[04:06] <AcidWolf> anyone know where i might find the init script for the esd daemon
[04:07] <tritium> AcidWolf, all init scripts are in /etc/init.d/
[04:07] <paulproteus> Tycho451: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[04:07] <AcidWolf> ty
[04:07] <Nermal> mount -t nfts -o ro /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[04:07] <paulproteus> That's the easy case, for read-only.
[04:07] <Nermal> s/nfts/ntfs
[04:07] <paulproteus> Tycho451: mount -t ntfs -o ro,uid=1000 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[04:07] <paulproteus> uid = 1000 makes all the files owned by the first Ubuntu user.  You can replace 1000 with a username.
[04:08] <Tycho451> Thanks a lot
[04:09] <AcidWolf> hrrrrmz
[04:09] <AcidWolf> interesting
[04:10] <AcidWolf> for some reason esd daemon seems to run default at boot and in turn is hogging the sound driver so my sound for everything else doesnt work
[04:10] <AcidWolf> yuck
[04:12] <vaijr2002> hi ho everyone
[04:12] <vaijr2002> i am having some probs gettin mp3's to play in xmms
[04:12] <AcidWolf> join the club
[04:13] <vaijr2002> checked everything. i dont get system sounds either
[04:13] <AcidWolf> what version
[04:13] <DXT> Bah. The preview disc i dled was b0rked... the only time I didn't MD5SUM checked, lol... :(
[04:13] <vaijr2002> version of what?
[04:13] <mcnl_1> help help help :( new ubuntu install... first X whuldnt start, i was told to configure it, now when i enter dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it says xserver-xork is broken or not fully installed or something like that... what to do?
[04:13] <AcidWolf> what version of ubuntu @ vaijr2002
[04:13] <vaijr2002> ummmmm
[04:13] <vaijr2002> warty?
[04:13] <AcidWolf> what machine are you using
[04:14] <vaijr2002> amd athlon
[04:14] <AcidWolf> k
[04:14] <AcidWolf> pvt me
[04:14] <burbuja> hi all!
[04:14] <mcnl_1> vajir2002: i downloaded three times, all were broken... i dont think the MD5 is right
[04:14] <vaijr2002> damnit someone told me the command how to check to see what versiion
[04:14] <vaijr2002> hmm
[04:14] <vaijr2002> i got everything working so far but my sound
[04:15] <mcnl_1> i get problems with xorg :)
[04:15] <optika> vaijr2002: cat /etc/issue
[04:15] <optika> vaijr2002: or just open up /etc/issue in a text editor
[04:15] <jason> I get an error when booting VFS: cant find ext3 fs on /dev/hda3, it still boots fine but I use reiser and would like to make this error message stop, any ideas?
[04:15] <vaijr2002> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" Development Branch \n \l
[04:16] <keffo> hoho
[04:16] <keffo> huge hoary update right now
[04:17] <vaijr2002> okies
[04:17] <vaijr2002> when i go to multimedia server and select alsa and test i get error about cant create/connect to pipelinie
[04:19] <deshboard> hello
[04:19] <deshboard> anyone there?
[04:19] <dwa_> no
[04:20] <garrut> me neuther
[04:20] <deshboard> great, so if you are not here I guess you couldn't help me configure ajunta
[04:20] <deshboard> *anjuta
[04:20] <zooko> I'm not here, because when I booted it couldn't load root fs, because root fs was reiser3.
[04:20] <dwa_> what's the problem with anjuta?
[04:20] <pluesch0r> evening. anyone else experiencing problems with gnome/freezing OS when upgrading from warty to hoary?
[04:20] <deshboard> it won't compile, neither would Kdev
[04:20] <pluesch0r> seems to have something to do with gnome-panel and the trash applet ..
[04:21] <deshboard> sais it can't find the G++
[04:21] <dwa_> can't you download a .deb?
[04:21] <dwa_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:21] <dwa_> try that
[04:21] <deshboard> me?
[04:21] <dwa_> yes
[04:21] <dwa_> not sure what you are planning to do with anjuta though...
[04:22] <pluesch0r> is there something comparable to bugs.debian.org on the ubuntu homepage?
[04:22] <tritium> bugzilla
[04:22] <keffo> damn
[04:22] <keffo> ;P
[04:23] <pluesch0r> right.
[04:23] <deshboard> j00 r0ck
[04:24] <pluesch0r> well .. did anyone else have problems after upgrading to hoary?
[04:24] <zooko> Not me.
[04:24] <Mithsir> Hello! When I click on "Devices" in Konquerer, I get an error dialog box saying "Protocol not supported: devices" (or something like that). What am I missing? (sorry, this is a kubuntu question, but maybe someone can help)
[04:25] <mijndert> pluesch0r, My sound didn't work after upgrading :)
[04:25] <pluesch0r> mijndert: would be great if _that_ were my problem.
[04:25] <mijndert> hehe
[04:26] <dwa_> aaaaah kwifje
[04:26] <pluesch0r> fsck .. also freezes when i start nautilus.
[04:26] <dwa_> a.k.a. kwoffer
[04:28] <onkarshinde> Has anyone installed ubuntu in Bochs emulator?
[04:30] <^thehatsrule^> nop
[04:32] <cusco> hi
[04:32] <cusco> Im having troubles with my wireless conection...
[04:32] <cusco> its always going down
[04:32] <cusco> like now... and my lag is rising
[04:32] <cusco> so maybe I reconnect meanwhile
[04:32] <cusco> or maybe you can't see this...
[04:32] <cusco> :/
[04:32] <cusco> looks like I reconnecte
[04:33] <coachz> hi
[04:33] <^thehatsrule^> ya we can see
[04:34] <coachz> Does Vmware run under ubuntu?
[04:34] <pluesch0r> coachz: yes.
[04:34] <coachz> with ubuntu as host
[04:34] <pluesch0r> coachz: _yes_
[04:34] <coachz> i currently run vmware in debian as host
[04:34] <goldfish> Is there an xterm config file?
[04:34] <pluesch0r> coachz: i'm running vmware both in debian and ubuntu as host..
[04:34] <jason> anyone use polypaudio?
[04:35] <pluesch0r> goldfish: use ~/.Xresources
[04:35] <cusco> I went down again
[04:35] <goldfish> pluesch0r: cheers
[04:35] <Taleel> I#m running VMware on Ubuntu, as well
[04:35] <Taleel> works great
[04:36] <jason> is there a free alternative to vmware?
[04:36] <goldfish> lol
[04:36] <pluesch0r> jason: bochs.
[04:36] <goldfish> get it for free :)
[04:36] <pluesch0r> jason: you could also get the public beta .. which can be downloaded for free.
[04:36] <jason> I mean free like speach
[04:36] <Taleel> jason: if you want to run only virtual Linux machines: http://www.faumachine.org/
[04:37] <petemc> jason: qemu
[04:37] <Taleel> (not tested by me yet, I've just seen it at the CeBIT last week)
[04:38] <jason> thanks :)
[04:38] <pluesch0r> sigh .. i'd really like to know how to troubleshoot this problem .. both gnome and kde freeze .. however, the terminal only session works.
[04:38] <^thehatsrule^> but right now vmware beta 5 is free
[04:38] <^thehatsrule^> you could try it
[04:39] <jason> it is not free, they give you the source?
[04:39] <pluesch0r> jason: what are you trying to proof?
[04:39] <^thehatsrule^> huh? vmware BETA is free right now
[04:40] <DarthFrog_> Free beer, free speech.
[04:40] <jason> just that it is not free in my view of what makes software free
[04:41] <DarthFrog_> jason: Which is why the term Free Software is a bad one.  Ambiguity in the usage of the word free.
[04:41] <jason> anyway I just asked if there was a free as in libre alternative to vmware
[04:42] <shai> *sobs* anjuta hates me
[04:42] <jason> the english laguage is laking in that area :(
[04:43] <DarthFrog_> jason: Freedom is a quality of life, price is a quality of things.
[04:43] <pluesch0r> yes.oooooh, yes. it's a kernel issue.
[04:43] <pluesch0r> thank god.
[04:44] <Taleel> jason: the FAUmachine is free as in speech.
[04:44] <shai> anyway, I've finally menaged to somehow moake anjuta compile something
[04:44] <shai> but when I tell the damn thing to run it I get "there is no executable for this program"
[04:45] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tell what this means? Kernel panic - not syncing : Fatal Exception in interrupt
[04:45] <jason> Taleel: thank you
[04:47] <shai> well, can anyone tell me where anjuta keeps the executables?
[04:47] <vaijr2002> shai look in /usr/local/bin see if its there
[04:48] <vaijr2002> most exe's are in /bin folders
[04:48] <vaijr2002> hi Darth
[04:48] <Darthfrog> Good morning vaijr2002
[04:48] <vaijr2002> how are ya today buddy
[04:48] <coachz> pluesch0r, how is ubuntu different than debian?  I'm an old debian user tired of old packages.
[04:48] <vaijr2002> got that mysql prob fixxed, and that program installed woot woot
[04:49] <shai> nope, empty
[04:49] <Darthfrog> vaijr2002: Good for you.
[04:49] <Darthfrog> coachz: Ubuntu is a superb desktop Debian, packages very up-to-date.
[04:50] <vaijr2002> yeah just cant get me sound working
[04:50] <vaijr2002> i think i got everything right
[04:50] <shai> is there anyway to config anjuta to find it's own compiled executables?
[04:50] <trans_err> i just bought a new mobo, installed everything, but my processor is running 500mhz under its max-- it reports 1200 when its a 1.7ghz processor
[04:50] <coachz> Darthfrog, and i can use apt-zip to update my home off network pc right?
[04:50] <vaijr2002> worked in suse and gentoo lol
[04:50] <trans_err> amy ideas?
[04:50] <vaijr2002> dunno shai
[04:50] <trans_err> its an asus mobo
[04:50] <shai> well... I'll search for an anjuta support chat :/
[04:50] <shai> thanks anyway
[04:50] <Darthfrog> coachz: I've never heard of apt-zip before. I should assume so, Ubuntu is debian-compatible.
[04:51] <coachz> Darthfrog, can you tell me the current version available for Postgresql, PHP and Mysql?
[04:51] <coachz> cuz i really want leading edge packages available
[04:52] <vaijr2002> brb
[04:52] <sylvesterxxl> is there an easy way to install codecs for divx?
[04:53] <Darthfrog> coachz: Postgres 7.47, PHP 4.4.3, MySQL 4.023
[04:53] <coachz> Deathfrog and that's my problem.  those are old
[04:53] <coachz> can't i get new packages in ubuntu?
[04:53] <coachz> PG is 8.0.1  and PHP is over 5
[04:53] <^thehatsrule^> use testing?
[04:54] <coachz> in Gentoo I can get them but I don't want to compile all day
[04:54] <dizzie> sylvesterxxl, install win32 codecs from mplayerhq's website
[04:54] <Darthfrog> coachz: Are those levels you want available in Sid?
[04:54] <coachz> nope they are not
[04:54] <coachz> and that is what shocks me
[04:55] <^thehatsrule^> maybe cause its always being updated heh
[04:55] <sylvesterxxl> dizzie:win32 codecs from mplayerhq so where is it? i cant see
[04:55] <Darthfrog> Well, Debian tends to be a bit conservative. :-)
[04:56] <^thehatsrule^> hehe true
[04:56] <ikaro> hellas!
[04:57] <^thehatsrule^> lo
[04:57] <dizzie> sylvesterxxl, http://ftp5.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/releases/codecs/essential-20050216.tar.bz2
[04:57] <sylvesterxxl> dizzie:where in the hard disk i install it?
[04:59] <dizzie> Depends on player, usually they goes to /usr/share/win32 ... check manual, i cant remember
[04:59] <Fackamato> hm
[04:59] <Fackamato> what do I need in order to mount nfs shares?
[04:59] <desrt> Fackamato; an NFS server :)
[04:59] <Fackamato> portmap, nfs-common, nbd-client, nfs-user-server
[05:00] <Fackamato> those I got
[05:00] <Fackamato> still can't mount my nfs exports on the server
[05:00] <^thehatsrule^> those arent samba compatible?
[05:00] <Fackamato> just sits there
[05:00] <Fackamato> samba?
[05:00] <desrt> on the client side, it seels, you only need support in the kernel
[05:00] <desrt> *seems
[05:00] <desrt> are you trying to setup client or server?
[05:00] <Fackamato> the client
[05:00] <Fackamato> the server is already configured
[05:00] <desrt> i don't think you need that stuff
[05:00] <^thehatsrule^> samba's the windows network sharing thingy ;p
[05:00] <^thehatsrule^> guess it isnt
[05:00] <Fackamato> well, I still can't mount
[05:01] <desrt> you should just be able to do mount -t nfs server:/path/on/server /mnt/point
[05:01] <desrt> assuming your kernel has nfs support
[05:01] <desrt> (modprobe nfs)
[05:01] <Fackamato> root@fackamato:/home/fackamato # mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/www/warez /home/fackamato/warez_on_amiga
[05:01] <Fackamato> just sits there
[05:01] <Fackamato> btw, warez = my jpegs
[05:01] <Fackamato> ;)
[05:01] <desrt> oh
[05:01] <^thehatsrule^> LOL
[05:01] <desrt> ubuntu knows about warez
[05:01] <fungus> check that portmap is running.  `rpcinfo -p`
[05:01] <desrt> it has built-in copy protection technology
[05:02] <Fackamato> portmap is running along with status, nfsd and mountd
[05:02] <Fackamato> s/nfsd/nfs
[05:02] <Tomcat23> I'm in the middle of a ubuntu install and I've got a quick question.....
[05:03] <fungus> I meant check that portmap is running on the client.
[05:03] <Fackamato> fungus: it is, that was output from the client.
[05:03] <fungus> oh, why is your client running mountd,nfs,and status?  that is not necessary.
[05:04] <Tomcat23> ...I've enabed S.M.A.R.T. in the bios, and now I'm getting an error that the disk is failing... could that be because I've just repartitioned and reformated the drive?
[05:04] <Fackamato> fungus: because I tried to get nfs to work.
[05:04] <Fackamato> still doesn't.
[05:05] <fungus> from the client run `rpcinfo -p <server>`
[05:05] <DXT> http://abum.com/?show_media=5889 the most dumb ass thing i saw in ages... but still funny
[05:06] <knewt> Tomcat23: what does smartctl say about things?
[05:06] <Fackamato> fungus: it just sits there, no output
[05:06] <Tomcat23> knewt: what's smartctl?
[05:06] <fungus> That is your problem, your server is not responding to portmap requests from the client.  firewall??
[05:06] <knewt> Tomcat23: [[ smartctl - Control and Monitor Utility for SMART Disks ] ]
[05:07] <knewt> part of smartmontools
[05:07] <Tomcat23> is it on the live or install disks?
[05:07] <Fackamato> no firewall :/
[05:07] <coachz> I see PG 8.0.1 listed here.  Is that in "standard" ubuntu or an unstable version?   http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[05:08] <coachz> oh, that's source i guess
[05:08] <Tomcat23> knewt: I did an install, a reboot and then while I was installing packages it hung for a long time, so I rebooted and now I get that error...
[05:09] <fungus> Fackamato, try running `rpcinfo -p` on the server.
[05:10] <Fackamato> fungus: I get portmapper, status, nfs, nlockmgr, mountd
[05:11] <Spooks> Hey hey
[05:12] <andril> hello all
[05:12] <`helix> is there any way to get libapache-mod-php4 in ubuntu for apache
[05:13] <andril> since I upgraded to Hoary - alot of my GTK,Metacity & Icon themes just don't work - anyone having similar issues?
[05:13] <fungus> Fackamato, run `sudo tcpdump port 111` on the client, then in another window run `rpcinfo -p <server>`.
[05:14] <fungus> You should see traffic going in both directions.
[05:16] <Fackamato> fungus: yeah I did
[05:16] <farruinn> Tomcat_: you can't boot back into the system?
[05:16] <Fackamato> I did see traffic with tcpdump, but rcpinfo just said nothing. still can't mount, this is strnage
[05:17] <`helix> so there is no libapache-mod-php4
[05:17] <fungus> did you see replies from the server?  or just the requests?
[05:17] <farruinn> Tomcat_: sorry, guess you're not Tomcat23
[05:18] <Tomcat_> :P
[05:18] <farruinn> heatwave: try libapache2-mod-php4
[05:18] <andril> any theme issues?
[05:18] <farruinn> oops, `helix ^^^
[05:18] <`helix> but i dont want it for apache2
[05:18] <Fackamato> fungus: both
[05:18] <Fackamato> 17:16:00.635766 IP fackamato.830 > www.tehjunkyard.net.sunrpc: S<PHONE_NUMBER>:1729540802(0) win 5840 <mss 1460>
[05:18] <Fackamato> 17:16:00.635968 IP www.tehjunkyard.net.sunrpc > fackamato.830: S<PHONE_NUMBER>:1349580188(0) ack<PHONE_NUMBER> win 5840 <mss 1460>
[05:18] <Fackamato> 17:16:03.636027 IP fackamato.830 > www.tehjunkyard.net.sunrpc: S<PHONE_NUMBER>:1729540802(0) win 5840 <mss 1460>
[05:18] <Fackamato> 17:16:03.636276 IP www.tehjunkyard.net.sunrpc > fackamato.830: S<PHONE_NUMBER>:1352580076(0) ack<PHONE_NUMBER> win 5840 <mss 1460>
[05:19] <alican> hi ..
[05:20] <alican> How can I run X progs with root priv..
[05:20] <goldfish> dont
[05:20] <^thehatsrule^> sudo blah
[05:20] <`helix> sudo <application>
[05:20] <fungus> Fackamato, odd.  do you have any iptables rules `sudo iptables -L`
[05:20] <farruinn> alican: use gksudo, you risk running into problems using just sudo
[05:20] <goldfish> will that not own his Xauthority
[05:20] <goldfish> or something like that
[05:20] <`helix> alican: sudo <application>
[05:21] <Get> when I try to compile php5 from the howto in the wiki, I got error: ext/libxml/libxml.lo: file not recognized: File truncated
[05:21] <Fackamato> strange, actually yes
[05:21] <farruinn> goldfish: ~/.ICEauthority, correct =)
[05:21] <Fackamato> how do I disable iptables, fungus ?
[05:21] <Get> how to fix?
[05:21] <goldfish> farruinn: hehe
[05:21] <alican> `helix,  t asks pass
[05:21] <goldfish> that happened to me :)
[05:21] <`helix> alican: huh?
[05:21] <goldfish> Lesson:  never run x apps using root.
[05:21] <zooko> Sigh.  When I compile the kernel myself, it is unable to boot.
[05:21] <goldfish> :)
[05:21] <fungus> Fackamato, `sudo iptables -F`
[05:21] <ikaro> and then you cant get online again :>
[05:21] <alican> `helix, angelaus@angel:~$ sudo xmms
[05:21] <alican> Password:
[05:22] <`helix> type your password
[05:22] <farruinn> alican: use gksudo, don't use sudo with X apps
[05:22] <ikaro> alican, use visudo to edit the /etc/sudoers file
[05:22] <alican> you mean usert pass ?
[05:22] <`helix> yes
[05:22] <goldfish> alican: Why are you running xmms as root?
[05:22] <farruinn> no kidding