[00:42] <w0rmie> i've a connexion problem with a DELL XPS 8700 while installing ubuntu server 12.10
[00:43] <w0rmie> the configuration looks fine, but no way to access to internet for updates
[00:44] <w0rmie> RTNETLINK: File exists
[00:44] <w0rmie> Failed to bring up p2p1
[00:44] <w0rmie> so?
[00:45] <sarnold> w0rmie: unrelated, but are you sure you want to install 12.10 onto a server today? 12.10 is EOL in three months: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:47] <w0rmie> it's the most stable release i think to build a beowulf cluster
[00:51] <w0rmie> do you have an idea about how to resolve this sarnold? :)
[00:51] <sarnold> w0rmie: not off the top of my head; are there any more errors in dmesg? in the log files? what's the output of 'ip addr show', 'ip route show', etc?
[00:56] <w0rmie> $ ip addr show gives: <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev p2p1 proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:56] <w0rmie> it's ip route show sorry
[00:57] <sarnold> ah, good, I though that <IP_ADDRESS>/24 looked pretty strange there..
[00:57] <w0rmie> ;)
[00:58] <sarnold> do you have a default route?
[01:00] <w0rmie> yes
[01:01] <sarnold> can you ping or otherwise contact the router listed in the default route?
[01:01] <w0rmie> already done, unreachable
[01:03] <sarnold> hrm, does dmesg say anything interesting about the interface? do you have ethtool installed? does it say anything interesting about your nic?
[01:03] <sarnold> can you throw a 'known good' nic (laptop?) into that port on the switch? test the cable too?
[01:04] <w0rmie> the cable is tested and the network is fine, i am using windows and OSX too in the same net segment
[01:06] <w0rmie> ethtool says: Current message level: 0x00000033 (51)
[01:06] <w0rmie> ethtool says: drv probe ifdown ifup     Link detected: yes
[01:08] <sarnold> sorry w0rmie, I think I'm out of idas
[01:10] <w0rmie> it's ok sir, something goes wrong with the default kernel for RTL8111/8168B as i see on a forum here ;)
[02:56] <Lightsword> i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on a supermicro MBD-H8SGL-F AMD socket G34 Opteron motherboard but the install freezes right after the initial loader
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> Lightsword: where exactly does it freeze? have you made any keyboard entry at this point?
[03:04] <Lightsword> right after I hit the install ubuntu right after boot
[03:04] <Lightsword> actually there must be a bug in 13.10
[03:04] <Lightsword> 13.04 worked
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> are you able to get up another tty at the point it freezes?
[03:07] <Lightsword> I was installing using the internal KVM
[08:55] <makara> hi. I've locked myself out of a VM by setting SSH to refuse passwords, before I added my key. I've added the vdh to another instance of Ubuntu. How can I see it, and mount it, so I can add the key?
[08:58] <hitsujiTMO> makara: is the drive showing up: sudo fdisk -l
[08:59] <makara> hitsujiTMO, yeah, it's /dev/sdb
[08:59] <makara> doesn't show in df
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> makara: which partition of that is the / ?
[09:00] <hitsujiTMO> makara: sorry which partition of that is the /home ?
[09:00] <hitsujiTMO> makara: could you pastebin the output: sudo fdisk -l
[09:01] <makara> sdb1
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> makara: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> makara: is sdb1 the / so?
[09:02] <makara> I've got the home directory here
[09:02] <makara> no .ssh folder yet
[09:02] <makara> i'm the same user on both machines
[09:03] <makara> mkdir .ssh permission denied
[09:03] <makara> what is your question?
[09:04] <hitsujiTMO> makara: ok. whats the path to the home as its mounted now?
[09:04] <makara> /mnt/home/
[09:04] <hitsujiTMO> makara: so: mkdir /mnt/home/makara/.ssh
[09:05] <makara> permission denied
[09:05] <hitsujiTMO> makara: ls -ld /mnt/home/makara
[09:06] <makara> makara:makara
[09:06] <makara> ls
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> makara: mount | grep /dev/sdb1
[09:07] <makara> /dev/sdb1 on /mnt type ext4 (rw)
[09:07] <hitsujiTMO> makara: ls -l /mnt/home/makara/.ssh
[09:08] <makara> no such file or directory
[09:08] <makara> why would it be there?
[09:08] <makara> that's the problem
[09:08] <makara> I've edit sshd_config to allow passwords
[09:08] <makara> I'm going to detach and reboot
[09:08] <makara> thx 4 help
[09:08] <hitsujiTMO> makara: cool. might be easiest. can't see why you're getting the errors
[09:09] <zetheroo> I ssh into one of our KVM host servers and perform a simple df -h ... but it just sits there without giving any output. I have to exit the terminal, open a new terminal and ssh back in to get any response again ...
[09:09] <zetheroo> Also if I cd into /mnt and then try to do ls -la the same behavior occurs ... will not show anything and the terminal session is frozen ...
[09:09] <makara> I guess it knows the makara@pep is not makara@giz
[09:09] <hitsujiTMO> zetheroo: check dmesg and /var/log/syslog for any errors related to the df -h
[09:10] <makara> hitsujiTMO, I think i also encrypted the home directory. Would I be able to see the files in that case?
[09:10] <zetheroo> ok
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> makara: no, the filesystem isn't aware of the host
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> makara: ahh. if it was encrypted then you must load the encypted folder. the main folder is locked
[09:11] <zetheroo> hitsujiTMO: looks like one of the nfs mounts isn't responding ... thanks ;)
[09:13] <makara> hitsujiTMO, there are two folders?
[09:14] <hitsujiTMO> makara: with encrypted home folders, you encrypted home is mounted in place of /home/makara when you log in. the /home/makara on the drive is used as a mount point
[09:37] <makara> hitsujiTMO, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/364015
[09:37] <makara> real pity that. I won't be using encrypted home for a while
[09:38] <zck> hi there
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> makara: ahh. yeah. thats a bit annoying.
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> makara: at least encrypted home is still valid for client devices
[09:51] <makara> hitsujiTMO, i'm going to remove the encryption
[09:51] <makara> but all the web pages show how to do it from a GUI
[09:51] <makara> any idea how to cli this?
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> makara: afraid not. its not something a play with
[09:58] <b00tbu9> hi
[09:58] <b00tbu9> I would like to know how to set up and use mailx
[09:58] <b00tbu9> with an existing smtp server
[09:59] <b00tbu9> Tried searching internet..
[09:59] <b00tbu9> nothing worked
[10:04] <zck> b00tbu9: why do you want to use it?
[10:13] <smb> hallyn, I am on the libvirt update
[10:16] <hallyn> smb: cool, thanks
[10:16] <hallyn> smb: I just noticed it was only marked as affecting virt-manager while the patch was against libvirt :)
[10:17] <smb> hallyn, Yeah, I was about to change it later when I got the package prepared and tested. So you changing it saved me the hassle. :)
[10:17] <smb> hallyn, Just marked the virt-manager task invalid for that reason
[10:22] <makara> how can I chroot into a mounted filesystem? I want to create a user for the mounted drive, not my working OS
[10:24] <hallyn> smb: I didn't know offhand how to do that through the email api :)
[10:25] <smb> hallyn, He, nor would I  :)
[10:26] <hallyn> I guess I could have just done a new 'affects' stanza followed by status invalid
[10:32] <smb> hallyn, Got libvirt source package ready for quick sanity check and sponsoring up at chinstrap:~smb/4review
[10:32] <smb> Got it verified on my machine at home
[10:35] <makara> in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156240
[10:35] <makara> they mount /dev and /dev/pts separately
[10:35] <makara> why?
[10:43] <hallyn> smb: can you just pastebin the debdiff?
[10:44] <smb> hallyn, I can, just did not think that would make things easier for you. A sec
[10:46] <smb> hallyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6843117/
[10:53] <hallyn> smb: i'd rename the patch 9023-xen-fix-parsing-xend-http-response.patch, but other than that looks good
[10:53] <hallyn> smb: oh wait, you need me to push it?
[10:53] <hallyn> sorry i missed that :)  ok, will push, thx
[10:53] <smb> hallyn, Yeah, still got no power to upload
[10:54] <smb> :) Feel free to change the name of the patch on that
[11:13] <hallyn> smb: ok, just did a test build to make sure :)  all's good, pushing.  thanks
[12:09] <adac> how can i create an user with home directory and no password. A system use?
[12:10] <adac> *user
[12:21] <shauno> adac: I'd usually use 'useradd' for that (rather than 'adduser').  it has a --system flag, amongst others.  if you don't specify a password, it'll have a disabled pass.  usually you'll still have a $HOME though, eg www-data has /var/www as a home
[12:21] <shauno> of course, hit up the man page and see which flags meet your requirements
[12:30] <UchMond> how to open pptp port .. i'm using ufw firewoll and iptables.. eth0 externel eth1 internal..
[12:31] <UchMond> i've done as documentation said but.. not working
[12:37] <rostam> hi how to find the grub version on my system? thx
[12:39] <zetheroo> how to install sunjava on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:52] <hitsujiTMO> !java | zetheroo oracle java instructions are here
[12:53] <hpr_> hello
[12:53] <hpr_> I have a question to koolhead17 regarding his OpenStack book
[12:53] <hpr_> The book makes use of the ubuntu distribution
[12:54] <hpr_> does the content of the book also applicable to other linux distributions ?
[12:54] <hpr_> like opensuse or debian or Linux Mint ?
[13:00] <ihre> Hello, I'd like to run an Apache2 server as a different user, so I edited APACHE_RUN_USER, but how can I let this user restart his apache2 process without sudo?
[13:14] <jamespage> roaksoax, does this ring a bell?
[13:14] <jamespage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/+bug/1274499
[13:14] <jamespage> I thought we raised it last november but maybe not
[13:17] <roaksoax> jamespage: let me check
[13:20] <roaksoax> jamespage: uhmmm
[13:24] <roaksoax> rvba: ^^
[13:26] <rvba> jamespage: roaksoax: yep, that's exactly what we think just happened with sparkiegeek's box.
[13:27] <zul> good morning
[13:27] <rvba> When the pool of IPs is exhausted, isc-dhcp-server apparently just re-uses already taken IPs.
[13:43] <jamespage> rvba, yup - that's where I raised it from
[13:49] <smoser> jamespage, do you have a suggstion for https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive/+archive/cloud-tools-next/+build/5534963 ?
[13:49] <jamespage> smoser, yes - I pushed a branch to ~ubuntu-cloud-archive for that in the icehouse pocket
[13:50] <jamespage> can't actually remember if I uploaded it tho
[13:52] <smoser> jamespage, ok. ill follow that up. are you aware of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive/+archive/cloud-tools-next/+build/5534956
[13:52] <smoser> i just uploaded a 1.17.1.
[13:52] <jamespage> smoser, ah - you won't be able to backport that unchanged
[13:52] <jamespage> the gccgo version in precise sucks
[13:53] <jamespage> so you'll need to disable that bit of the packaging
[13:53] <smoser> hm..
[13:53] <smoser> ok. i thikn thats ok. mans we don't get other arches in cloud archive.
[13:53] <smoser> for precise. which is probably ok.
[13:55] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-cinderclient/1248519/+merge/203972
[14:02] <jamespage> zul, thanks
[14:02] <jamespage> +1
[14:03] <jamespage> zul, nova is still in proposed btw
[14:06] <zul> jamespage:  wtf?
[14:07] <zul> jamespage:  adt tests failed
[14:11] <smoser> stgraber, can i just drop the whole arch checking from ubuntu-cloud template ?
[14:12] <smoser> you added that, i dont really think its necessary.
[14:13] <stgraber> smoser: I'd rather not as otherwise people will end up downloading cloud images which they can't actually run and I prefer to be a bit more user friendly than that
[14:14] <smoser> they'lll download images they can't run when they *say* to do it
[14:15] <smoser> and they may have good reason for doing so
[14:15] <smoser> maybe they're going to patch in qemu-static
[14:15] <smoser> stgraber, ^
[14:17] <zul> jamespage:  sorry do you have the bug number for the api issue that you were having
[14:17] <zul> jamespage:  nm found it
[14:18] <smoser> jamespage, i have forgotten
[14:18] <smoser> how do i un-cleanly 'debuild -S' the mongodb ?
[14:26] <jamespage> smoser, "-nc"
[14:29] <koolhead17> zul: hello sir
[14:29] <zul> hi koolhead17
[14:29] <koolhead17> zul: got few mins? dm?
[14:29] <koolhead17> jamespage: hello sir :)
[14:29] <zul> koolhead17:  sure
[14:31] <smoser> jamespage, do you have toolage that helps you magically decide to use an lp: branch or straight backport ?
[14:36] <jamespage> smoser, nothing official
[14:37] <jamespage> we probably should have that
[14:37] <jamespage> and a check in the backport-o-matic that looks for backport branches as well
[14:37] <smoser> second qustion
[14:37] <smoser> where would i disable the gccgo stuff for juju-core
[14:38] <jamespage> in d/control and d/rules
[14:46] <zul> jamespage:  i have a fix for nova for adt tests failing just testing it now
[14:50] <jamespage> yolanda_, please can you use http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charm-helpers/charm-helpers/devel/view/head:/charmhelpers/core/host.py#L135
[14:50] <jamespage> instead of 'write' and then changing permissions please
[14:51] <yolanda_> jamespage, ok
[14:54] <smoser> jamespage, i'm confused by line 43 at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/juju-core/trusty/view/head:/debian/rules
[14:55] <smoser> ah. never mind.
[14:55] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-api-fix/+merge/203987
[14:55] <smoser> everything will build with golang. and only non 'golang_archs' will build with gccgo
[14:56] <smoser> but that doens'tmake sense.
[14:56] <smoser> as my filed build took the gccgo path.
[14:56] <smoser> on amd64
[14:57] <jamespage> smoser, it did both actually
[14:57] <jamespage> golang first and then gccgo
[14:57] <smoser> right. its just funny logic.
[14:58] <smoser> because the variable is named 'golang_archs'. but you're using that to determine you should use gccgo
[14:59] <smoser> would you be opposd to naming that 'gccgo_arches' ?
[15:02] <smoser> m. never mind thats wrong too
[15:43] <zul> jamespage:  neutron fixed i think
[15:51] <smoser> jamespage, sorry for being dense.
[15:51] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6844404/
[15:51] <smoser> that results in
[15:52] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6844406/
[15:52] <zul> jamespage/smoser: can i get a +1 https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/neutron/fix-tests-locking-issues/+merge/204012
[15:53] <smoser> is that somehow going to work on the ppa builders ?
[16:12] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-api-fix-too/+merge/204017 and https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/neutron/fix-tests-locking-issues/+merge/204012 (then we should be good for icehouse-2)
[16:17] <jamespage> zul, can we bump that into the release please
[16:17] <jamespage> https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-api-fix-too/+merge/204017
[16:18] <jamespage> neutron: +1
[16:20] <zul> jamespage:  yeah im just going to have to back out the fix-requirements patch then (due to sqlalchemy)
[16:21] <smoser> stgraber, sent new patch. please check.
[16:26] <zul> jamespage:  done
[16:28] <zul> brb i need to reboot
[16:31] <stgraber> smoser: your new patch now allows arm64 on armhf/armel which isn't supported (the other way around is, which is why I proposed using two entries instead in my previous e-mail.
[16:31] <smoser> your previous logic was also broken
[16:31] <smoser> the stuff i was replacing
[16:31] <smoser> running armhf on armel
[16:32] <smoser> i really think bothering with this "i'm smarter than you" is just wrong.
[16:32] <smoser> let the user do what they want. rather than maintaining a hard coded list of "this works"
[16:37] <stgraber> smoser: how's my logic broken? it may not be particularly readable in the arm64 case because it's done in two different if statements, the first checking for armel/armhf/arm64 on armel/armhf/arm64 and the second one ensuring that arm64 is never used on !arm64
[16:38] <smoser> your logic was previously broken saying armhf would not run on armel
[16:39] <smoser> err.. that it would run
[16:39] <smoser> which i think is broken logic
[16:39] <smoser> anyhow
[16:39] <zul> jamespage:  so +1 for nova?
[16:39] <smoser> fix it up however you thikn is "right".
[16:39] <smoser> i dont care enoguh
[16:39] <stgraber> smoser: it's not, armhf does run on armel
[16:40] <smoser> well, do whatever you like. again i think its wrong to care.
[16:40] <smoser> you'lll just fail early and possibly break someone who wanted to do something.
[16:40] <smoser> and thats the person you're going to stop.
[16:43] <semiosis> hi all.  i'd like to follow up on a MIR for glusterfs which has been around for two years... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-glusterfs-mir
[16:44] <semiosis> just yesterday there was some movement regarding building qemu with glusterfs support, which apparently depends on the glusterfs MIR
[16:44] <semiosis> i'd like to know what's stopping the MIR for glusterfs, and if there's anything I (the upstream glusterfs deb packager) can do to help move things along
[16:45] <semiosis> marcoceppi, jamespage: ^^^
[16:46]  * semiosis is not with redhat btw, just a volunteer passionate about debian, ubuntu, and glusterfs
[16:49] <semiosis> another related link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glusterfs/+bug/1274247
[17:20] <zul> smoser: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-api-fix-too/+merge/204017 (to get nova out of -proposed)
[18:56] <UchM0nd> hello guys.. i have one problem.. i setup pptp server on ubuntu 12.4 (i used ubuntu documentation) and setup ufw firewall .. when i scan my ports i have ssh open and 1723 closed .. i don't know how to open it .. what to do?
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: sudo ufw 1723
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: sudo ufw allow 1723     sorry
[18:57] <UchM0nd> already done this
[18:57] <UchM0nd> but no luck
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: can you pastebin the output of: sudo ufw status
[18:58] <Core_Craig> is the process listening on 1723 stopeed by chance?
[18:59] <UchM0nd> if so how to restart it
[18:59] <Core_Craig> Let's start with the ufw status check :)
[19:00] <UchM0nd> ufw status http://pastebin.com/Aqnsb3Wf
[19:01] <UchM0nd> when i connecting vpn error is 807
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: no deny rules, so lets move onto the process. sudo service pptpd restart
[19:02] <UchM0nd> next ?
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: test... is it working ?
[19:02] <UchM0nd> no same again
[19:03] <UchM0nd> when i scan with nmap it shows that i hav 22 and closed 1723
[19:04] <UchM0nd> my ip tables is in  /etc/rc.local
[19:04] <UchM0nd> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[19:04] <UchM0nd> eth0 is public
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: sudo netstat -an | grep 1723
[19:05] <UchM0nd> nothing shown up
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: then the server isn't listening. its not setup correctly
[19:06] <Core_Craig> I wonder if it's not bound to the correct port.
[19:06] <Core_Craig> Port as in eth0.
[19:06] <UchM0nd> so.. should i remove pptp and redo everithing again ?
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> UchM0nd: no, just go through the the steps and verify your config first
[19:07] <UchM0nd> hitsujiTMO ok i will return in a minute ..
[19:08] <UchM0nd> thanks though :)) kind man :)
[20:03] <UchM0nd> hitsujiTMO hey man.. i just resolved my problem :))  i followed this link http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/pptp-packets-from-the-vpn-client-cannot-reach-the-vpn-server-944796
[20:03] <UchM0nd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/pptp-packets-from-the-vpn-client-cannot-reach-the-vpn-server-944796/#post4677646
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> ahh sweet
[20:04] <UchM0nd> i had error configuring local and remote ip-es :))
[20:05] <UchM0nd> hitsujiTMO thanks ..
[20:05] <sarnold> nice
[21:55] <hxm> hi
[21:56] <hxm> after restart mysql service I get this http://pastebin.com/MXbxTtYi
[21:56] <hxm> FATAL ERROR: Upgrade failed, no clue whats that
[22:01] <hxm> i verified the user debian-sys-maint has the correct password
[22:07] <darkxploit> hello..its since some hours i saw vswap at 100%. i could not ssh over the server. i then rebooted it. vswap is now 0%. site still down i can't ssh. i have launched the console. a netstat -antpl give me no result. a nmap localhost can't reach http://<IP_ADDRESS>/. i have disable firewall right now. still nothing.. i have restarted apache.. now a netstat -antpl shows apache listening
[22:09] <darkxploit> its still not working


[00:00] <Hellow|SSH> Now it's displaying little after the grub menu.
[00:00] <Hellow|SSH> It shows some for around a second with the intial startup screen, then nothing.
[00:02] <penguin42> hmm ok, not sure why - were you running fglrx ?
[00:03] <Hellow|SSH> Yes, but I removed the xorg.conf file that declared for fglrx to be used.
[00:03] <penguin42> hmm ok, I would have expected that to work
[00:03] <penguin42> I'm running a 4350
[00:03] <Hellow|SSH> hmm
[00:04] <penguin42> what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say now?
[00:50] <wers> I want to test Maverick and am currently on Lucid. would installing the .iso be any "cleaner" than update-manager -d?
[01:04] <funkyHat> Ooh alt works again in gnome-terminal ⡈)
[01:05] <funkyHat> wers: possibly. Either way is helpful for testing though
[01:05] <funkyHat> wers: one way you're testing the upgrade path, the other way you're testing the installer ⡈)
[01:05] <funkyHat> I tend to always upgrade, personally
[01:05] <shadeslayer> wers: short answer, yes
[01:06] <penguin42> yeh, although upgrading does tend to throw up some weird stuff
[01:06] <funkyHat> I tend to upgrade really really early, so I probably get even more weird stuff ;D
[01:06] <wers> funkyHat and shadeslayer thanks
[01:06] <penguin42> ditto
[01:06] <wers> ok. maybe, I'll just install the alpha 3 iso :)
[01:07] <wers> does anyone know the md5 of alpha 3 i386? Can't find it
[01:08] <kklimonda> wers: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/alpha-3/
[01:08] <wers> kklimonda, thanks!
[01:13] <NinoScript> between desktop and netbook editions, which applications are different? (I'm asking "non interface" wise)
[01:14] <NinoScript> ohh, and of course, I'm asking about maverick specific changes if there are any :)
[02:36] <bcurtiswx> someone in a mood to confirm a graphics issue for me
[02:36] <bcurtiswx> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1156&bih=667&q=sun&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
[02:37] <bcurtiswx> go there, and try using your laptop mousepad up and down scroll
[02:37] <bcurtiswx> it cause the kernel to freak out
[02:37] <bcurtiswx> thats the specifics
[02:37] <bcurtiswx> NOTE: make sure you have your mouse on an image
[02:53] <wrigglesworth> Hi guys. I just installed ubuntu 10.1 on my pc and basically every looked normal for a while but after a restart everything is huge. When I try to change the screen resolution it just expands the desktop to off the screen. Sound familiar to anyone? Can anyone help?
[02:55] <kklimonda> interesting, I've learnt today that there were pentium 4 cpus with EM64T
[02:55] <kklimonda> well, they are still here
[03:32] <Sylphid> hey all, how can I open an app on the netbook remix when unity search results do not include the app and alt+f2 does not work ... will i need to launch from a tty?
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> Sylphid, anything that would run from alt+f2 "should" run from terminal ;)
[03:35] <Sylphid> ZykoticK9, right, i can launch it from there but i was wondering if there was a graphical way to launch it since alt+f2 is broken in the netbook remix
[03:36] <ZykoticK9> Sylphid, sorry I haven't played with Unity at all.  Good luck.
[03:36] <Sylphid> ZykoticK9, gnome-terminal is missing from unity so switching to a tty to launch is a pain
[04:40] <DanaG> Say, the "progs" dir in xorg-edgers "apt-get source mesa" is missing!
[05:04] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/621006
[05:04] <DanaG> argh.
[05:04] <DanaG> Means I can't use "radeon".
[07:38] <DanaG> hmm, unity is broken/
[07:38] <DanaG> GetGroupProperties is not a valid method of interface org.ayatana.dbusmenu.
[09:09] <DanaG> weird... my btrfs is showing full when I make a single huge file, even when it's only 70% full in reality.
[09:11] <DanaG> weird... my btrfs is showing full when I make a single huge file, even when it's only 70% full in reality.
[09:11] <DanaG> er
[09:11] <DanaG> sorry, thought my message got lost.
[09:27] <DanaG> argh, appmenu-gtk makes firefox crash 100% of the time you try to start it.
[09:27] <kklimonda> it also leaks memory like hell
[09:35] <cm9> How would I configure maverick meerkat to triple boot? Say I had two os's installed already (win7 & ubuntu), then I resized and installed winxp afterwards and it overwrote the MBR. What's the best way to rewrite it and include winxp as an option too?
[13:33] <sebsebseb> Hi
[13:34] <penguin42> Hi
[13:41] <sebsebseb> penguin42: hi
[14:48] <BUGabundo> guud afternoon
[14:54] <penguin42> hi
[14:56]  * BUGabundo tries his luck again
[14:56] <BUGabundo> anyone here with good knowlagde in SSDs and btrfs ?
[15:00] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[15:00] <charlie-tca> Not me for those things...
[15:00] <BUGabundo> hey hey big C
[15:01] <vish> BIG C!
[15:01] <vish> :D
[15:09] <Dink> Is there a way to find what proc is using up all my memory and swapping ?
[15:10] <Dink> actually better yet just swapping not using all memory
[15:10] <BUGabundo> Dink: atop 2
[15:10] <BUGabundo> them press m
[15:12] <Dink> Which column shows swap usage per proc ?
[15:13] <Dink> MEM | tot    2.0G | free  542.9M | cache 934.5M | buff   24.3M | slab   46.2M |
[15:13] <Dink> SWP | tot    1.9G | free  730.2M |              | vmcom   2.9G | vmlim   2.8G |
[15:14] <Dink> Trying to figure out why ~1.2G of swap used
[15:15] <lfaraone_> On my computer, which I just upgraded yesterday, Plymouth stops during boot, it just seems stuck there. On recovery mode, I don't get to the recovery menu. http://img442.imageshack.us/i/imageab.jpg/ is a screenie of my console. How can I figure out the problem?
[15:15] <penguin42> Dink: You could try grep Swap /proc/*/smaps and figure out where it's coming from
[15:15] <lfaraone_> Dink: Linux may swap out processes if they aren't being used even if you have sufficient RAM.
[15:15] <penguin42> Dink: Although of course the fact that something IS swapped doesn't mean its the hog, it could be something else pushing your perfectly helpful app out of the way
[15:16] <penguin42> lfaraone: 1.2G is a bit extreme though!
[15:16] <Dink> penguin42, yeah that was my concern as well and it seems to just grow
[15:16] <lfaraone|mobile> penguin42: It depends on a number of factors. His RAM usage may have peaked at one point and the data has not been accessed yet.
[15:17] <penguin42> Dink: Normal trick is just run top and sort by memory usage and see who is the biggest user
[15:17] <penguin42> Dink: Do you actually currently have free memory or is all used up?
[15:17] <Dink> Usually free memory
[15:18] <Dink> about 500M free right now
[15:18] <penguin42> ok, as lfaraone suggested it sounds like something peaked a while ago, pushed it out and went away
[15:20] <Dink> hmm
[15:20] <Dink> grep Swap /proc/*/smaps |awk '{print $2,$3,$1}' |sort -rn | head -2
[15:20] <Dink> 10148 kB /proc/2127/smaps:Swap:
[15:20] <Dink> 8604 kB /proc/2129/smaps:Swap:
[15:20] <Dink> $ ps -ef |grep 2127
[15:20] <Dink> user       2127     1  0 Aug19 ?        00:42:52 xchat
[15:21] <lfaraone|mobile> !paste | Dink
[15:21] <Dink> sorry
[15:22] <Dink> so looks like memory got used up and pushed xchat into swap ?
[15:22] <Dink> and whatever app that did it ended hence the free memory now?
[15:23] <penguin42> Dink: Probably, although if you are 1.2G into swap and have 512M free that still suggests soemthing big is hanging around
[15:24] <penguin42> also if those are the largest entries in Swap that doesn't sound like 1.2G does it (although I've never used those Swap fields before)
[15:30] <dutchie> am i seeing a bug, or is it very hard to get the "stay in launcher"/"remove" menu up in unity?
[15:34] <lfaraone|mobile> crimsun_: Poke.
[15:35] <wers> I installed gnome-shell from the official repo. unfortunately, it doesn't run
[15:35] <wers> I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/481899/
[15:35] <wers> what could be the workaround?
[15:49] <BUGabundo> what's the difference between kingston SSD v and v+ series?
[15:51] <penguin42> a + ?
[15:55] <BUGabundo> stop being sarcastic :(
[15:55] <BUGabundo> I need help!
[15:56] <charlie-tca> hmm, looks like a "+" to me too. Maybe a "Thanks, penguin42 " is in order?
[15:56] <charlie-tca> ;-)
[15:56] <penguin42> me? Sarcastic? Noooooo
[15:56] <penguin42> BUGabundo: What's your actual problem?
[15:57] <BUGabundo> I order a SSD
[15:57] <BUGabundo> a kingston 64GBs
[15:57] <penguin42> ok
[15:57] <BUGabundo> and now I find out about this '+' series
[15:57] <BUGabundo> (the other question is how is current support of btrfs in sdd in MM)
[15:57] <penguin42> Well the + is likely to be newer, faster or less buggy
[15:58] <penguin42> Or just more expensive - but one assumes they added the + later
[15:58] <lfaraone|mobile> penguin42: Newer and faster usually go hand in hand with more bugs.
[15:58] <penguin42> lfaraone|mobile: Indeed, the other possibility is that the + is the one where they fixed the bugs
[16:00] <penguin42> BUGabundo: + has larger cache, available in larger sizes, has a garbage collect, and looks faster from the spec sheet
[16:01] <penguin42> BUGabundo: http://www.kingston.com/ssd/vplus-series.asp   vs http://www.kingston.com/ssd/v-series.asp
[16:01] <BUGabundo> lfaraone you mean maverick has more bugs then lucid??
[16:01] <BUGabundo> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[16:01] <penguin42> oh and bizarrely it looks like you can shake it harder while its running
[16:02] <lfaraone|mobile> BUGabundo: I thought that was obvious.
[16:02] <BUGabundo> penguin42: LOL
[16:02] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Hey there's always a faster/newer/quicker thing out there - and I bet the + costs more
[16:03] <BUGabundo> I know
[16:03] <lfaraone|mobile> The week after I got my 1TB HD they dropped the price of the 1.5TB.
[16:03] <lfaraone|mobile> C'est la vie.
[16:03] <BUGabundo> gonna go with what ever I order then
[16:04] <BUGabundo> most prob non v+
[16:04] <BUGabundo> thanks penguin42
[17:06] <charlie-tca> Anyone running Xubuntu Maverick got time to confirm a terminal bug?
[17:08] <penguin42> I can probably get a vm into it
[17:10] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Is this lxterminal ?
[17:10] <charlie-tca> no, xfce4-terminal
[17:10] <penguin42> ok, got it
[17:11] <charlie-tca> It's easy, just click edit -> preferences, click each tab, then click close
[17:11]  * penguin42 has a VM with lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu all in
[17:11] <charlie-tca> The bug is bug 609500
[17:11] <penguin42> *bang*
[17:11] <charlie-tca> The terminal window closes when close is hit after going through the preferences
[17:12] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[17:12] <penguin42> yep same bug
[17:12] <charlie-tca> Kind of irritating, but not really serious
[17:13] <penguin42> confirmed
[17:13] <charlie-tca> Great! Thank you very much
[17:14] <penguin42> np
[17:15] <Dink> penguin42: and lfaraone: the issue seemed to be mutter. Once I killed the proc and it spawned again my memory looks normal now
[17:15] <Dink> 1gb ram used and no swap
[17:16] <lfaraone|mobile> Dink: Ah, mk.
[17:16] <Dink> Also trying out irssi vs xchat to help use less memory
[17:21] <lapion> anyone know how to activate an iwl2100 wifi card with a software power button ?
[17:23] <penguin42> lapion: Do you have a /sys/class/rfkill ?
[17:31] <lapion> rfkill list :
[17:32] <lapion> Hard blocked: yes
[17:33] <penguin42> do you have /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0 and is there a soft and hard file in there?
[17:36] <lapion> yes
[17:36] <penguin42> if you cat soft and cat hard what do they show ?
[17:37] <lapion> hard=1 soft=0
[17:38] <penguin42> hmm same as mine, and the hard on mine corresponds to an actual switch
[17:38] <penguin42> you could always try echo 0 > hard    but I doubt it will work
[17:39] <lapion> there is a hardware pushbutton..
[17:40] <lapion> yeah echo 1 > hard , gives permission denied
[17:40] <penguin42> even in a sudo -s shell? (sudo echo 1 > hard     won't work)
[17:40] <lapion> however echo 1 > soft does work...
[17:40] <lapion> yes
[17:41] <penguin42> so if the soft is 0 and you have a hardware button for the hard one what's the problem?
[17:42] <lapion> it's a pseudo hardware button
[17:42] <lapion> one of the regular keyboard buttons
[17:43] <penguin42> oh I see, I've got a nice actual switch on this one
[17:43] <lapion> sorry regular keyboard multimedia buttons on laptops
[17:43] <lapion> what values do you have for uevent ?
[17:43] <penguin42> actually, I don't think I've found the equivalent on my eeepc
[17:44] <penguin42> lapion: NAME=phy0, TYPE=wlan STATE=2
[17:44] <lapion> the other files..
[17:45] <lapion> or rfkill0/power/control mine is set to auto
[17:45] <penguin42> ditto
[17:46] <cmeiklejohn> hi there
[17:46] <penguin42> hi
[17:46] <cmeiklejohn> how goes it?
[17:46] <penguin42> not too bad
[17:47] <cmeiklejohn> I was just wondering if someone else could confirm a bug for me if they had a minute --
[17:47] <cmeiklejohn> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/621852
[17:48] <cmeiklejohn> Wasn't sure if I had a misconfiguration that was the root of the problem.
[17:49]  * penguin42 doesn't use empathy
[17:49] <cmeiklejohn> ah, ok.
[18:59] <AndrewMC> What is better install mavric via a fresh install or doing an upgrade via update manager. Or does it matter?
[19:00] <penguin42> AndrewMC: Tend to get a few more issues on the upgrade
[19:00] <AndrewMC> I figured
[19:00] <AndrewMC> Thanks
[19:00]  * penguin42 tends to upgrade and I generally need to fix a few things
[19:01] <AndrewMC> I will do a fresh install
[19:19] <lfaraone> On my computer, which I just upgraded yesterday, Plymouth stops during boot, it just seems stuck there. On recovery mode, I don't get to the  recovery menu. http://img442.imageshack.us/i/imageab.jpg/ is a screenie of my console. How can I figure out the problem?
[19:24] <charlie-tca> removed quiet splash from the boot line?
[19:24] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: I did, and plymouth still comes up. (the screenshot was in recovery mode)
[19:25] <IdleOne> anybody unable to change volume by hovering mouse over the volume icon?
[19:25] <charlie-tca> IdleOne: working in xubuntu
[19:26] <IdleOne> I have to click on it then the mouse wheel will adjust the volume
[19:26] <IdleOne> it's a little annoying, didn't this happen in Lucid also before release?
[19:28] <charlie-tca> lfaraone: I don't see anything in that screenshot should be stopping the boot from working
[19:28] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: right, but it just sat there....
[19:28] <charlie-tca> but sometimes I don't know what to look for
[19:29] <charlie-tca> hmm, wonder if "acpi=off" would change it?
[19:38] <penguin42> IdleOne: Yeh same here
[19:38] <penguin42> IdleOne: It'll be the new indicator thing
[19:39] <IdleOne> I think they should rename the applets, make it just a little less intuitive. Indicator Applet is way to easy to figure out
[19:40] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: screen of single user mode with acpi off, screen of GRUB as I'm entereing the boot parameters for normal mode, and screen of normal boot, respectively.
[19:41] <lfaraone> http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1545/img1760b.jpg, http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8430/img1761t.jpg, http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5513/img1762c.jpg
[19:47] <charlie-tca> did you have nvidia hardware drivers installed?
[19:48] <charlie-tca> I don't know how to fix it now. Nvidia drivers are causing issues in maverick this week
[19:48] <charlie-tca> Maybe someone else will jump in?
[19:48] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: I think I did.
[19:48] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: am I relegated to a reinstall at this point?
[19:49] <charlie-tca> I don't really know. There are people much more knowledgeable than I am, but they don't appear to be here today. Can you wait until tomorrow ?
[19:49] <yofel> bug 616023 is the most common nvidia issue currently
[19:57] <duffydack> Does the fglrx driver work yet?  I`ll install for rilz if so.
[19:58] <penguin42> duffydack: Don't think so
[19:58] <duffydack> penguin42, :( ok.  I dont like my fan running max constantly :)
[20:32] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: ah, ignoreABI workedforme.
[20:33] <charlie-tca> great!
[20:33] <yofel> :)
[20:33] <charlie-tca> Thanks, yofel
[20:33] <lfaraone> yofel: thanks for the pointer. I'm glad I had a recovery disk around.
[20:35] <yofel> np, actually, if plymouth gets stuck ever again try sysrq+k which should kill it (that gave me a working console at least) - forgot to mention that
[20:35] <yofel> (sysrq+k would be alt+print+k usually)
[20:47] <DanaG> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on com.Gwibber.Searches:/com/gwibber/Searches: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.Gwibber.Searches was not provided by any .service files
[20:55] <WaY> hello
[20:56] <WaY> what happends with amsn that opens two tasks in kde 4.5 taskbar? and one of them is like hanged up
[21:15] <DasEi> apt-get source linux-image-2.6.35-17-generic      can't find the kernelsources, any trick about it ?
[21:16] <WaY> apt-get update ; apt-get source linux-image-2.6.35-17-generic --fix-missing
[21:27] <DanaG> stupid gwibber... doesn't show any messages at all!
[21:29] <BUGabundo> +1
[21:29] <BUGabundo> I just have it closed
[21:29] <BUGabundo> it dies way too much
[21:29] <yofel> oh nice, nvidia just crashed kwin, the restarted kwin works fine, but I have snow on my screen, as in pixels with wrong color
[21:29] <yofel> #6  0x00007faa180c472e in ?? () from /usr/lib/nvidia-current/libnvidia-glcore.so.256.44
[21:30] <yofel> feels like snow on nice old analog TVs...
[21:34] <DasEi> WaY: tried, still not found, does it work on your system ?
[21:35] <yofel> DasEi: works fine here http://paste.ubuntu.com/482025/
[21:35] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/614742
[21:36] <WaY> yes
[21:36] <WaY> it works fine on mine
[22:23] <DasEi> yofel, way. thanks for reply, my repos where borked, done now
[22:24] <WaY> nice
[22:41] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else having problem with unresponsive nautilus?
[22:46] <DanaG> Weird, espeak crashes when I tell it to speak this string I found in the ATI binary driver:
[22:46] <DanaG>  ooboghieteipheilahpheengohnashoahveerohpithaewaxaepheepaiquevuhpahmaezosengoinoraeteichyaighaidxieghoghaichoocheecaesalphoothizhoonaethpohvahniouzaghiezoquahbaleikohpoaiyooyaueuroothoeefohsah
[22:48] <DanaG> And there seems to be no espeak-dbg package.
[22:55] <Daekdroom> DanaG, I wonder..
[22:58] <DanaG> Buffer overflow.
[22:58] <DanaG> Must not be expecting to get a string that long. =þ
[23:00] <Daekdroom> Nautilus is deadly slow here. Apparently too much I/O
[23:00] <yofel> you can check IO with iotop
[23:00] <Daekdroom> I tried, and it magically started working
[23:00] <Daekdroom> Weee
[23:00] <Daekdroom> Or not
[23:01] <Daekdroom> But definitely not I/O
[23:01] <Daekdroom> I think it's the ubuntu one plugin
[23:02] <Daekdroom> It makes rendering too slow. I'll try to switch GTK+ engine
[23:14] <Viper550> hey
[23:26]  * BUGabundo is trying to get xmacro to work
[23:26] <BUGabundo> how does this thing read a file?
[23:47] <wers> Can't install gnome-shell. I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/482064/
[23:47] <wers> it may have something to do with conflicting packages with Unity or Firefox-4.0
[23:48] <wers> I already did ppa-purge the corresponding ppa's (Canonical DX and Mozilla Daily). any idea why I can't meet the gnome-shell dependencies?
[23:56] <wers> just found out that ppa-purge wasn't able to downgrade some (if not all) packages from the Mozilla Daily PPA. I hope, i don't have to reinstall Maverick to make sure all traces of the PPA are gone