[00:00] <jmgk> Dr_Willis, so its good to have both ?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  both desktop and  mobile? You bought it allready  so you have it?
[00:00] <jmgk> yep
[00:00] <jmgk> I do . I'll get it now
[00:00] <jmgk> :)
[00:00] <jmgk> Brb
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> so you allready have both. :)
[00:00]  * Dr_Willis is still confused
[00:01] <agliodbs> how do I disable seahorse entirely and get rid of it
[00:01] <agliodbs> ?
[00:01] <agliodbs> darned thing is prompting me for pass phrases for ssh keys with no passphrase
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:  why do you want to?  apt-get remove <packagename> but that may have other breakages
[00:02] <Nancy_> looking for a complete calendaring / email / contacts solution. Looking at OpenXChange / DSpam and puting together one with DSPAM, postfix, calendarserver, and roundcube.    Anyone know anything about either approach?
[00:02] <Nancy_> looking for a complete calendaring / email / contacts solution. Looking at OpenXChange / DSpam and puting together one with DSPAM, postfix, calendarserver, and roundcube.    Anyone know anything about either approach?
[00:02] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: because it's a terrible useless program?
[00:02] <sofie_> I installed a Ubuntu server 12.04.03 + Etherape , And I'm under heavy attack !
[00:02] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: it's blocking my access to my ssh keys
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:  ive rarely ever seen any people with problems with it in here.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> !find seahorse
[00:03] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: search a bit on the internet.  there are literally hundreds of posts about disabling it.  People hate it with a passion, and with good reason
[00:04] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: such as now: I am trying to log into an external server using an ssh key with no passphrase.  Seahorse jumps in the middle of things insisting that I type in a passphrase
[00:04] <agliodbs> causing the connection to fail
[00:05] <Freel0ader> hi
[00:05] <Freel0ader> can i install rpms if using ubuntu live?
[00:05] <Freel0ader> in memory
[00:05] <sofie_> rettype the key ,agliodbs
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> !alien  | Freel0ader
[00:05] <agliodbs> sofie_: what key?
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> Freel0ader:  doable.. but useing rpm's is generally not a good idea
[00:06] <Freel0ader> sorry. not rpms
[00:06] <pfifo> Freel0ader: yes you can, Im assuming you mean deb's though... but you could still install an rmp if you really meant that
[00:06] <sofie_> for connecting to your external server
[00:06] <agliodbs> sofie_: I have no idea what you're saying
[00:06] <Freel0ader> i just want to run ubuntu from a dvd and install pcscd and run it and install coolkey and use firefox with it
[00:07] <Freel0ader> is that doable?
[00:07] <nick__> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 daily image from october 2 (and udated today), and I cannot get MDM installed (mint display manager).  I added the repository, but in synaptic there is a package called mdm, but it is not the mint display manager.  I wanted to install a GDM theme but couldn't manage to, and I can with MDM (I just put the files in say usr/share/mdm/themes and im good to go)...   Everything I do like web design, audio and video production, Linux has great alternatives for
[00:10] <nick__> repost: I installed Ubuntu 13.10 daily image from october 2 (and udated today), and I cannot get MDM installed (mint display manager).  I added the repository, but in synaptic there is a package called mdm, but it is not the mint display manager.  I wanted to install a GDM theme but couldn't manage to, and I can with MDM (I just put the files in say usr/share/mdm/themes and im good to go)... Anyone able to hel
[00:10] <nick__> p?
[00:10] <Armadillos> nick__: That's why I have a Ctirx session for IE at work. :)
[00:11] <wdkevintwo> is there an ubuntu server virtual appliance? just barebones?
[00:11] <nick__> my performing name is Citrix lol, I use citrix on my work computer, but somethings its easier to boot from ym laptop into
[00:12] <pfifo> nick__: mint is not ubuntu, its only based on ubuntu... and mint is not supported here
[00:12] <gmachine_24> hello. running 12.04 - what do i need to install to get access to a remote computer on my home network? I guess I'm getting old because i forgot how to do this.
[00:12] <nick__> pfifo, I had it working in 13.04.  It is a mint question then?
[00:12] <Armadillos> gmachine_24: Wanting X Windows, or just erminal?
[00:12] <Armadillos> err, terminal*
[00:12] <gmachine_24> Armadillos; just terminal is great thanks
[00:13] <pfifo> nick__: not sure, never dont the mint thing... id hqave to say the program was included from mint
[00:13] <Armadillos> gmachine_24: Just make sure you have the SSH dameon installed, and you have port 22 open in your firewaall.
[00:13] <gmachine_24> Armadillos: ok, thanks
[00:13] <nick__> pfifo, Yes, and is available in webupd8 repositories.  I was just hoping someone in here had experience with it.  So, what would you guys support in regards to display managers.  just lightdm?
[00:14] <sofie_> I'm going to sleep now, thnx a lot guys
[00:14] <foobarwhat> when outside of ubuntu, I usually do "ssh-agent startx" so that ssh-agent works with all the terminals I spawn. What's the equivalent in lightdm/gdm world?
[00:14] <nick__> sofie_,  what was your question?
[00:14] <pfifo> nick__: anything in the repos, xdm gdm... kdm in #kubuntu
[00:15] <deadmund> I'm looking for an RSS reader that automatically (every hour?) checks my feed and downloads unread items and opens those items with the correct program (e.g. gthumb for an image)
[00:15] <nick__> pfifo, great, so how would i install a gdm theme?  like i said, normally, I just find the appropriate files in /usr/whatever the path may be, but i cannot find out where gdm config files or themes are located
[00:16] <milamber> nick__: http://superuser.com/questions/124174/how-can-i-specify-the-repository-from-which-a-package-will-be-installed-emacs
[00:16] <sofie_> I installed a dedicated firewall server(pc with freeBSD) with fsence/firewall  and I' still under heavy attack
[00:16] <foobarwhat> nevermind, gdm actually spawns ssh-agent automatically; I just had to ssh-add
[00:17] <upd> lol
[00:18] <sofie_> bye nick__
[00:18] <pfifo> nick__: not sure, check out gnome-look.org they should have everything you need
[00:18] <nick__> milamber, thanks.  when i do apt-cache showpkg mdm i only see the mdm package from ca.archive.*ubuntus repos*
[00:18] <pfifo> sofie_: call you ISP
[00:19] <pfifo> nick__: i think milamber was directing that at foobarwhat
[00:19] <nick__> pfifo, I've looked there.  from everything that I've found, I gather that there used to be a "login window" section in systems settings to easily accomplish what I am trying to do, but no longer there.
[00:19] <sofie_> my ISP is attacked by the NSA
[00:20] <milamber> nick__: not sure how you added the repo, but if you edited a sources file by hand you have to do an update
[00:20] <milamber> nick__: sudo apt-get update
[00:20] <nick__> milamber, i did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:*repo location* // sudo apt-get update //
[00:20] <milamber> nick
[00:21] <nick__> i do most stuff through terminal
[00:21] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis wso I'm on that app
[00:21] <jmgk> its not bad
[00:21] <jmgk> :)
[00:21] <milamber> nick__: if that ppa offers other packages, can you see them via: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[00:22] <milamber> nick__: also, make sure you are connecting when you do the update(s)
[00:23] <nick__> milamber, something must have happened when i added the repo because nothing else is there, im pretty sure they have a bunch of other packages related to mint... i think its the same repo that mate is available through
[00:24] <milamber> nick__: what tutorial are you trying to follow?
[00:24] <nick__> ok problem discovered, its been a long day, I should have suspected that first, thanks for your help guys.  I will reboot and try to add it again
[00:24] <milamber> nick__: it is your machine, but rebooting to solve issues is often jokingly frowned upon here
[00:25] <nick__> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-install-latest-mdm-display.html
[00:26] <nick__> milamber, oh?  I made some other changes as well, installed... i cant remember right now... figured a reboot might cleare some stuff up.
[00:26] <milamber> nick__: with installing packages, probably not (unless you have manually edited config files in which case a daemon restart is usually all that is necessary)
[00:26] <dexter_> ok
[00:27] <dexter_> anybody here?
[00:27] <nick__> ahhhh, im still used to windows in some ways.  when you have to reboot more frequently.
[00:28] <toothe> so, I don't se where in the Ubuntu install is the option to install RAID
[00:28] <milamber> nick__: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:28] <nick__> 13.10 daily
[00:30] <tlf> I have 12.04 LTS on a dell studio 17 laptop. I've been using a hitachi 42" via serial as my display. I turned the tv on and discovered my resolution is about 640x800. i don't turn my laptop off unless an update requires a restart, and I don't let it go to sleep. Any idea setting wise that may have done this?
[00:30] <nick__> milamber, no i tried removing the repo, readding it, updating, and installing again and i think it might be a naming conflict with this other mdm package.  is that a possibility?
[00:31] <milamber> nick__: just so you know, technically support requests for saucy should be in ubuntu+1, but let us see if we can at least get your repo added. the first thing you should do when following those tutorials is seeing if the ppa is still maintained on launchpad.net, your is
[00:32] <milamber> nick__: that repo has lots of packages in it. if you aren't finding any of them i would say that it is not just a naming thing. are you able to find all the other packages provided by that repo?
[00:36] <nick__> milamber, upon looking at that repos package list, i notice that i cannot find some of th epackages.  the only consistency i can see right now is the ones i cannot find in apt are the ones that do not have a saucy version
[00:36] <nick__> milamber, mdm is one without a saucy version
[00:36] <nick__> :(
[00:37] <milamber> nick__: what exactly are you typing to install the repo?
[00:39] <nick__> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[00:40] <nick__> milamber, it did add fine, and imported the RSA key, and is viewable in software and updates under the other tab.  and i can find the packages with a saucy version, so im assuming that must be it..
[00:40] <Pinkamena_D> How would I bridge from network cable to wifi with the wifi being on a seperate subnet
[00:41] <milamber> nick__: here is the link https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/webupd8?field.series_filter=saucy
[00:41] <milamber> the other option is to install a repo from a supported version. however; that is definitely not recommended and not supported here
[00:41] <poly-atheist> i can't install ubuntu
[00:42] <Pinkamena_D> or rather a simpler question, how can I share the wired connection to the wireless ? It does not seem to be able to connect even though it can see the network
[00:42] <pfifo> why does transmission-daemon install 50 different conf files but only use 1 of them?
[00:43] <nick__> milamber, yeah, upon looking further, i cannot find some of the packages with a saucy version either... so im assuming some of the packages exist in more than one of the repos i have... making things more confusing
[00:43] <poly-atheist> Pinkamena_D, you need to bridge your network
[00:43] <Pinkamena_D> on forums it has said that network manager can do this
[00:43] <milamber> nick__: that link i sent shows only 12 packages or so available for that repo in saucy
[00:43] <nick__> yah
[00:43] <poly-atheist> Pinkamena_D, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[00:43] <Pinkamena_D> blabla "create net network" and then change the type to "infrastructure"
[00:43] <mysteronyx> lol I love how the Ubuntu site mentions "live support" as if it's a typical person on the phone service. Then they take you to IRC lol.
[00:43] <Pinkamena_D> new*
[00:44] <gp5st> are there any gnome2 or xfce4 applets for sports scores?
[00:44] <pfifo> this makes it very difficult to figure out which file to edit in order to change settings
[00:45] <nick__> milamber, yes, you're right, we've got it figured out.  the repo is working, i just cant use mdm, which im fine with.  tomorrow i will focus on figuring out how to install gdm or lightdm themes, thanks very much for your help
[00:46] <milamber> nick__: no worries
[00:46] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I add extra IPs to a NIC?
[00:50] <jmpf> I was trying to create an upstart service && now my vm won't boot; I chk'd dmesg/syslog from recovery mode and don't see anything that stands out - if I don't go into recovery mode I see a blank screen; no service output or anything; suggestions?
[00:52] <poly-atheist> jeeves moss ifup eth0:1
[00:54] <Jeeves_Moss> poly-atheist, do you have a URL with details?  I've built a Nagios box that needs to monitor a bunch of internal nubnets
[00:56] <pfifo> woah! I just downloaded the livecd to my server at 24Mbps... wish my home internet did that
[00:57] <Pinkamena_D> so the problem with using network manager ot bridge utils is that the ubuntu machine is not behind a router. I have to make it into a router. what program would do this?
[00:57] <Jeeves_Moss> pfifo, once they get the up stream fixed, we can all host at home!
[00:58] <Jeeves_Moss> poly-atheist, do I put that in the interfaces file?
[00:59] <poly-atheist> yes
[01:00] <poly-atheist> Jeeves_Moss, https://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Multiple_IPs
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> jmpf:  try text mode - you might see some error messages that were getting hidden by a normal boot
[01:02] <Jeeves_Moss> poly-atheist, thanks!  That saves a LOT of headaches
[01:03] <Guest94208> i would like to download a free version of youtube to mp3
[01:03] <daftykins> that's against their terms of service
[01:03] <daftykins> sorry.
[01:03] <Guest94208> really?
[01:03] <Guest94208> ok
[01:05] <jmpf> Dr_Willis: yeh I'm an idiot -- just updated grub am && now seeing some output
[01:05] <TiZ> Is there a separate channel for talking about 13.10?
[01:06] <daftykins> TiZ: yes, #ubuntu+1
[01:06] <TiZ> daftykins: Excellent; thank you!
[01:07] <jmpf> last line is 'adding swap' - seems to just be sitting there
[01:09] <mrrcp> clear
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> heh - the only way i watch youtube is with downloader extensions.
[01:28] <bugbeast> i added a share in the samba GUI in launcher -> System -> Samba but I cant push files into the folder from a windows machine. i get a permission denied error.  (shared the public folder in my home folder to anyone with read/write control)
[01:28] <sf> anu
[01:28] <bugbeast> usually when i want to share a folder i right click on it, select properties and there is a sharing tab. i just installed 13.04 on a new machine and there is no option to share.  i have installed samba and system-config-samba. what am I missing?
[01:28] <wheatthin> bugbeast, it should be built into nautilus
[01:29] <bugbeast> im using thunar
[01:29] <bugbeast> its normally built in in thunar as well
[01:29] <bugbeast> on my other machines it is
[01:34] <we6jbo> How do I read a document that was installed with install-docs?
[01:35] <serapath_> hi
[01:35] <we6jbo> hey
[01:35] <serapath_> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 but cant find my local WLAN. i can use it with my desktop computer and from my android device without a problem
[01:36] <serapath_> but it doesnt show up on my notebook (others do, but not mine)
[01:36] <Tylertwo> we6jbo: I'm not familiar with install-docs. Do you know what kind of document it is and where it's stored?
[01:36] <serapath_> even typing it in manually when choosing "connect to hidden wifi" doesnt help
[01:37] <we6jbo> Tylertwo: This is the command that it ran install-docs -r nethack-spoilers
[01:37] <serapath_> any idea what possible reasons might be?
[01:37] <pfifo> serapath_: are the lots of networks around you?
[01:38] <we6jbo> serapath_: is the wifi light on or blinking? I've worked with many laptops/netbooks where a switch on the side or a bios setting turns off the wifi adapter
[01:39] <mrrcp> if your seeing other networks but not yours... how many networks are around you?
[01:39] <mrrcp> it may just not populate in the list
[01:40] <Tylertwo> we6jbo: Well it seems like locating the document would help. Sounds like nethack-spoilers is the doc name? So search for it using "locate nethack-spoilers"
[01:41] <toothe> gah, having trouble setting up RAID
[01:42] <toothe> this Ubuntu guide is outdated or broken
[01:42] <craigbass1976> I've got a lamp server I set up a long time ago.  I moved my site today.  When I moved my mail, only what was right out in my inbox went, no subdirectories.  Where did dovecot put them, or is postfix the issue?
[01:42] <pfifo> we6jbo: should be /usr/share/doc
[01:43] <we6jbo> pfifo: yeah that's where it is
[01:43] <pfifo> we6jbo: use this http://nethackwiki.com ascend a valkery first, dont quaff from fountains
[01:44] <we6jbo> is there a way to view the file?
[01:44] <Alice_Ursula_Sue> If you are a guy and wish to wear a bra, or do wear a bra, you do not have a problem and it is not abnormal. Many men feel the desire to wear bras, from average joes to celebrities. Visit http://www.websitetoolbox.com/mb/hellotaxi to be a part of a community of men who like to wear bras. Remember, men who wear bras are not abnormal, they are just like anyone else.  Are you having trouble with the other formats, or are you expecting it to be packaged in some way?
[01:55] <Alice_Ursula_Sue> If you are a guy and wish to wear a bra, or do wear a bra, you do not have a problem and it is not abnormal. Many men feel the desire to wear bras, from average joes to celebrities. Visit http://www.websitetoolbox.com/mb/hellotaxi to be a part of a community of men who like to wear bras. Remember, men who wear bras are not abnormal, they are just like anyone else. So quit worrying and just wear a bra today, worry free!
[01:55] <toothe> I'm following a guide on setting up sftware RAID
[01:55] <toothe> but, this guide appears to be broken in several places
[01:55] <toothe> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[01:56] <toothe> it says to setup SWAP, then sets the fie system type to RAID
[01:56] <toothe> then it says to set a RAID device to bootable, which is not possible.
[01:57] <toothe> any ideas? why is this guide broken?
[01:57] <daftykins> Alice_Ursula_Sue: but does Ubuntu's bum look big in this?
[01:59] <wheatthin> daftykins, not with the lxde ;)
[02:00] <serapath_> we6jbo: i dont know whether the light is blinking or not. cant locate such a light.
[02:00] <toothe> anyone know??
[02:00] <serapath_> pfifo i dont know, a couple, yes, but its currently 4am here and i doubt theres many traffic
[02:00] <serapath_> much
[02:02] <toothe> hey, is anyone there??
[02:02] <toothe> How can I boot off of a RAID drive!!
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> im in and out.
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> I dont use raid however.
[02:02]  * toothe is frustrated.
[02:03] <craftyguy> Hi, I have an issue on Ubuntu 13.10 Beta where wpa_supplicant crashes on login. The ubuntu bug reporting app keeps saying the bug has already been reported on launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1210875), however this bug doesn't seem to exist. What's up with that?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> commonly in the past theres a /boot/ partion thats not part of the raid toothe  used to boot the system. but  that may or may not be needed in all cases
[02:07] <Gammax> evening all, is there a tablet that is compatible with ubuntu?
[02:07] <justanotheruser> Is there a way to not allow myself to connect to the internet unless I'm connected to my VPN? I'm using nm-applet as my gui interface and an openvpn VPN.
[02:08] <milamber> !tablet | Gammax
[02:08] <Gammax> Thanks!
[02:09] <senlis> would someone help me with an Nvidia problem?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> Gammax:  i think the nexus7 is one of the main testbeds for the ubuntu touch stuff.
[02:10] <trism> craftyguy: it happens quite a bit that bugs get dup'd on private bugs, you could try asking in #ubuntu-bugs and somebody there might be able to see it and give you more information
[02:10] <Gammax> Dr_Willis:  IS THAT THE NEW ONE?
[02:10] <Gammax> sorry for caps.
[02:15] <serapath_> what the heck? on my ubuntu, i'm finding totally different WLANs
[02:15] <serapath_> hows that possible?
[02:15] <serapath_> only one in common is a "FRITZ!Box 6360 Cable"
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> senlis: Gammax  theres been a  new version of it came out like last month..
[02:15] <Senlis> I have this problem, after installing NVIDIA drivers, that the computer will slow down and freeze after about 30 seconds.  Is anyone familiar with this?
[02:15] <OY1R> what's the latest LTS that uses the real gnome desktop ?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  if you mean gnome2 - there is no longer a lts that uses it i belive
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> gnome2 is dead
[02:16] <serapath_> ah and a "WLAN-0024FE42F6E6
[02:16] <serapath_> all others are different
[02:16] <Senlis> sorry Dr_Willis, I only just caught the last bit of your conversation since the computer froze and I had to restart IRC
[02:16] <toothe> so, this guide demands that I set the RAID device as bootable, but I cannot.
[02:16] <serapath_> and i cant see my personal one from my ubuntu notebook
[02:16] <OY1R> damn.
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  and really there are better desktops out there these days.  Xubuntu and Lubuntu are both very useable. the latest gnome-shell 3.8+ has the official gnome- 'gnome2ish' desktop you can install
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> then theres all the gnome2-classic/lookalike variants that i dont use. ;)
[02:17] <OY1R> gnome2ish, does it look/feel exactly like gnome 2?
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Nothing looks and feels exactly like gnome2
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> dont even expect it.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> you can setup xubuntu to be fairly close if you want somting lighter then gnome-shell
[02:19] <Senlis> The odd thing is that the computer doesn't completely freeze.  The mouse will still move, but I can't get the computer to respond to input
[02:19] <pleanbean> Anyone have experience with UEFI installs?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  this isent a dual gpu optmius system is it?
[02:19] <Senlis> it is a Geforce 670, let me check
[02:20] <ZH__> Hai
[02:20] <toothe> does anyone here know how to configure RAID on Ubuntu?
[02:20] <toothe> I'm trying to install Ubuntu server.
[02:21] <toothe> but, the installer will not allow me to configure a RAID device as bootable.
[02:21] <ZH__> i'm just downloading new brand of ubuntu now...
[02:21] <Senlis> toothe: I have a computer where I have RAID 0 set up through the BIOS, what they call fake RAID, is that what you have?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  make a /boot/ partion thats outside the raid perhaps?
[02:21] <Senlis> Dr_Willis: it seems that my GPU is optimus, does that mean I need to install bumblebee?
[02:21] <toothe> Senlis: No, I"m doing software RAID.
[02:21] <toothe> Dr_Willis: What file type would that be?
[02:22] <toothe> damn, the guide does not metion that at all, but its worth a shot. What does the /boot drive consist of?
[02:22] <ZH__> i'm new! don' ask me!
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  as far as i know - yes. you need to use bublebee to make fulluse of optimis stuff
[02:22] <ZH__> i'm new! don't ask me!
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  filesystem for /boot/ could be ext2/3/4  your choise
[02:22] <Senlis> Dr_Willis: I'll give it a shot, thanks
[02:22] <toothe> Dr_Willis: What is the /boot drive used for again?
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  thats where the kernel and grub boot files are at
[02:23] <ZH__> i'm new! don't ask me!
[02:23] <daftykins> ZH__: can you stop that now please?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> make it perhaps 500+mb in size. because it really really SUCKS if you fill up /boot/ ;)
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> i put backup ISO files on my /boot/ and setup grub to boot the iso files as a fallback recovery/rescue/reinstall option. ;)
[02:25] <ZH__> stop what?
[02:25] <serapath__> re, fixed the WLAN issue. i had to change the WLAN channel to something below 11, because the driver doesnt support above 11
[02:26] <eamagoo> Hi
[02:26] <blackmatrix_ny> hey folks, is there a way to get the temprature widget without having to install compiz
[02:26] <toothe> okay, would anyone help me here for money?
[02:26] <ZH__> how much>
[02:26] <toothe> $50 ?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> blackmatrix_ny:  you could use stuff like conky, or indicator applets to get temp readouts
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> morning to all ubuntu lovers :p
[02:27] <eamagoo> I need some help installing ubuntu on my new notebook, tried 12.04lts and 13.04 both result in black screen
[02:27] <iamagrenade> hi all
[02:27] <owdjaodopj> I'm trying to play counter-strike on linux instead of windows... and the game aspect ratio is messed up... it's streching across the entire screen versus with blackbars? Is this a launch command or an ubuntu setting?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | eamagoo
[02:27] <blackmatrix_ny> Dr_Willis, THnx. Any indicator applets you would recommend ?
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> !details | eamagoo
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> blackmatrix_ny:  theres a list of them at askubuntu.com  search for indicator applet list, and sort by votes - but it may be outdated
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-multiload | blackmatrix_ny
[02:28] <legg1> Anyone know if there's a way to install ubuntu(xfce) without EFI? keep getting mounting-error during partitioning/install in /boot/efi
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> blackmatrix_ny:  there may be others in the repos also
[02:28] <blackmatrix_ny> Great. Thanks a lot guys.
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> !steam | owdjaodopj
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> !uefi
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> owdjaodopj: is your graphics card driver installed correctly?
[02:31] <iamagrenade> I'm struggling with a unique problem.  I have a Dell laptop that has a Broadcom BCM4315 wireless controller.  It works with ubuntu 8.10, but after upgrading all the way to 12.04- it refuses to work.  The controller is identified in dmesg.  This seems to be a common problem, but none of the suggestions I found worked.  So, I'm using my 8.10 livecd, and was hoping someone could suggest a way to upgrade while keeping the proper package inst
[02:31] <owdjaodopj> it's an intel onboard gpu
[02:31] <Senlis> every time I install bumblebee, I get one monitor (instead of the three hooked up to the monitor).  The resolution is 1920x1080, but it doesn't fill the entire screen
[02:32] <owdjaodopj> on windows there's black bars when i play
[02:33] <Senlis> plus, the nvidia-settings gives me the classic message "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver….run nvidia-xconfig"
[02:34] <wheatthin> Senlis, so run it as root
[02:34] <legg1> I've had nothing but problems with nvidia drivers, since 13.x releases :S
[02:35] <Senlis> same thing.  When I run nvidia-xconfig, it says the command does not exist
[02:35] <legg1> cant remember the last time an install actually worked properly
[02:35] <legg1> apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[02:35] <eamagoo> ubottu I read the link you send me, I know that screen, the purple one with the keyboard but I cant see it! Alway black, I try disabling uefi, securebot, etc but always the same, the cd reads a lot of time but nothing on video, also try to change the tty but nothing
[02:35] <Senlis> unable to locate nvidia-xconfig
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> owdjaodopj: maybe this can help you? http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3097580
[02:36] <Senlis> I'm going to try re-installing the nvidia drivers after I have installed bumblebee
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> legg1: did you install nvidia-current?
[02:37] <legg1> tried yeah, same crap
[02:37] <legg1> tried god knows how many guides
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> legg1: plz keep it familly friendly mate
[02:37] <YokoBR> guys, how can i make a file be read by all users, but only root can change it?
[02:37] <Senlis> I was using the additional drivers, though I have tried many other guides too
[02:37] <eamagoo> The notebook is a Lenovo G480
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | YokoBR
[02:37] <YokoBR> tip: my user is the owner, but my user shouldn't change it also
[02:38] <YokoBR> i know, but the problem is that i'm the owner.. so even if i give me no permission, i can change it again
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> legg1: graphics card chipset, ubuntu version? driver loaded?
[02:39] <Senlis> legg1 was responding to one of my questions :)
[02:39] <wheatthin> YokoBR, just give it no permissions and then chmod +r
[02:39] <YokoBR> sorry, but what is your problem, legg1?
[02:39] <fishcooker> how to remove lvm encyrption pass
[02:39] <fishcooker> ?
[02:39] <legg1> V3-771 laptop, Intel i7 apu + 730M Nvidia. XUbuntu 13.04, Ubuntu 13.04, and some others
[02:39] <legg1> same problems all around
[02:39] <ryanvade> Hello.
[02:39] <legg1> with drivers from nvidia.com, nvidia-current, etc
[02:39] <Senlis> I have a NVIDIA 670, ubuntu version 13.04, driver was loaded and working, except that it would freeze after about 30 seconds
[02:39] <Senlis> sorry, I guess legg1 was having nvidia problems
[02:40] <ryanvade> Has anyone worked with 3.12-rc3 on 13.04?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-config
[02:40] <legg1> But main problem right now, is the EFI being awful. just wont mount it, in manual or auto partitioning
[02:40] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; have u run update after installing ubuntu 13?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-settings
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> legg1: what kind of 'problems' are we talking about?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-xconfig
[02:41] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard, I ran distro-update, but it didn't do anything
[02:41] <legg1> lotuspsychje: EFI one? Just doesnt mount /boot/efi during installation, then prompts me to go fix it in the partitioner, in which case there's nothing to fix
[02:42] <YokoBR> wheatthin, i've done that.. Well, there's a video cfg file that when i start Left 4 Dead 2 it changes automatically the 'antialias' part to 2, and it should stay 1.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> legg1:  so there is a small partion at the start of the drive for the efi stuff to use?
[02:42] <YokoBR> so i want to make it stay as 1, and nobody could change it, even me.
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> YokoBR: plz read the url i triggered to you about permissions
[02:43] <legg1> Dr_Willis: Yeah, there's the 500mb EFI partition
[02:43] <YokoBR> ok, thanks
[02:43] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; try running update manager
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> legg1:  well thats  the extent of my efi skills ;) my pcs are all too old
[02:43] <legg1> Feel lucky. EFI made things unnecessarily troublesome
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> legg1:  what filesystem is the partition?
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: same here :p got an old x800 running 13.04
[02:44] <legg1> Dr_Willis: Think it was fat32 for efi, and ext4 for the rest
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> legg1: sounds right to me.
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> legg1: what was default Os on your laptop?
[02:44] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: my system was updated before, but now I enabled Pre-released updates.  should I install them?
[02:45] <Kasaak> hi guys
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: welcome, what can we do for you?
[02:45] <legg1> lotuspsychje: Windows 8
[02:45] <Kasaak> just trying to install ubuntu 13,04 from usb drive
[02:45] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; is ther update for kernel?
[02:45] <wheatthin> Senlis, pre-released are cutting edge, and most often times will have bus
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> legg1: i recently installed 13.04 on a win8 machine dull disk, and didnt have to change anything in bios about uefi...
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> legg1: worked out of the box!
[02:46] <legg1> lotuspsychje: which is removed by the way. will have to try and disable uefi and burn another usbstick. see if i can boot it in legacy mode.
[02:46] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: it has an update for Ubuntu base
[02:46] <Kasaak> and it stopped and has been stuck for a while
[02:46] <legg1> lotuspsychje: You installed it next to win8? in that case, there's probably a ubuntu-folder in your C drive
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: at wich part mate?
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> legg1: no, i used full disk for ubuntu
[02:46] <legg1> ah
[02:46] <Senlis> Mr_wizard: looks like there are some kernel updates contained
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> legg1: loose winblows once and for all mate :p
[02:47] <legg1> lotuspsychje: obviously, as said, i've removed it completely. just never had this problem before 13.x versions
[02:47] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; u can try that or try recommende updates first
[02:47] <Kasaak> well it says the first line: [Bug]: unable to handle kernel paging request at<PHONE_NUMBER>000002
[02:48] <Kasaak> and says some messages
[02:48] <Kasaak> lol
[02:48] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: I have all the recommended updates, so I'll try the pre-release.  The only way I can break the computer more is if there isn't a display anymore :)
[02:48] <Kasaak> i would be cool to show you a picture
[02:48] <iamagrenade> Is there a way to lock a certain package so it doesn't change during an upgrade?  My wifi works on 8.10 but not any version after that.
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: at wich part of the setup, is it freezing?
[02:48] <legg1> Sweet, critical error while trying to install bootloader.
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !8.04 | iamagrenade
[02:49] <Kasaak> the beggining i think, didn't even load the usb, i mean... there's this black screen and full of white text
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> iamagrenade: what chipset a,d did you try install 13.04?
[02:49] <Kasaak> just restarted my pc, booted from usb
[02:50] <iamagrenade> lotuspsychje: it's broadcom 4315
[02:50] <Kasaak> didn't even load graphic live cd to choose if i want to install or try
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | iamagrenade
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: wich ubuntu version? is it older system or rather new?
[02:52] <Kasaak> its a new notebook (samsung np550p5c) trying to install ubuntu 13.04
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> iamagrenade: with installing firmware, your wifi should work
[02:52] <iamagrenade> thanks, i'll try this.  much appreciated.
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> iamagrenade: np mate!
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: so you seeing the part of setup you can choose livecd or install?
[02:53] <Senlis> do you think Nvidia will ever release drivers that are easy to use?
[02:53] <Kasaak> nope
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: hmm.. did you change bios to usb first boot?
[02:54] <Senlis> are ATI drivers any easier?
[02:54] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; did u upgrade your ubuntu or fresh install?
[02:54] <Senlis> fresh install
[02:54] <Kasaak> yes
[02:54] <Senlis> i'm thinking it would be worth buying an ATI card to replace my NVIDIA one
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: what driver did ubuntu use for default install?
[02:55] <Kasaak> restarted pc, i see purple screen says ubuntu
[02:55] <Senlis> I installed the pre-release updates.  I'm still getting a black border around my screen and it is only displaying on 1 of 3 monitors
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: then after that?
[02:55] <Kasaak> loading bar, then restarts
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: whats default Os of your laptop?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Kasaak:  try the text mode or nomodeset option at the grub menu
[02:55] <Kasaak> then black screen white writing
[02:55] <Senlis> is it possibly because one of my screens is connected through HDMI, I remember seeing that bumblebee has some problems with HDMI
[02:55] <Kasaak> same mesaage
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  yep. i saw someoine in here the othe rday with similer issues
[02:56] <Kasaak> might it be a wrong copy of the iso content to the usb drive?
[02:56] <Senlis> lets see what happens when I remove the monitor connected thru HDMI
[02:56] <Kasaak> ill try making the bootable usb again
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  black border can be overscan settings also
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: dont think so, try what Dr_Willis advices you
[02:57] <Senlis> where are the overscan settings?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Kasaak
[02:57] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; when was first time it crash?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  in the nvidia-settings tool i recall
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  or in the monitors menus/settings
[02:58] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: I properly installed the NVIDIA drivers by:
[02:58] <Senlis> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source-headers
[02:58] <Senlis> sudo apt-get install linux-libc-dev
[02:58] <Senlis> and then using the additional drivers
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  i thought you were using bumblebee>
[02:59] <Kasaak> wow, now booted, weird, didnd do anything
[02:59] <Kasaak> just restarted
[02:59] <Senlis> those were my steps before bumblebee
[02:59] <Kasaak> but it says that doesnt detect any os in the hdd
[03:00] <Kasaak> and thats not true
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  i dont think you install the nvidia drivers THEN instal bumblebee.. You just instgall  bumblebee and it sets it all up
[03:00] <Senlis> I got all three monitors working, and the computer ran with great performance.  Then , after 30 approx seconds the computer would crash
[03:00] <Kasaak> i've w7
[03:00] <Senlis> Dr_Willis: should I try purging nvidia and bumblebee and then install bumblebee?
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: plz try the nomodeset Dr_Willis has adviced you
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  no idea really now :) i dont use bumbleebee at all.
[03:01] <legg1> weird, debian installs just fine with efi
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: 3 screens...on what graphics card?
[03:01] <Senlis> geforce 670
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> id cut down to 1 monitor - for testing also.
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: did you play with xrandr?
[03:02] <Kasaak> lotuspsychje, but it booted, it lets me choose if i want to install or try
[03:02] <Senlis> lotuspsychje: no, i've never had much luck with xrandr
[03:02] <Kasaak> and when i go to files, and choose my hdd it says that its not authorizes to perform operation
[03:02] <Kasaak> authorized*
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: i know, but like Dr_Willis advices you should try a setup with lower settings to test..
[03:03] <Kasaak> ook
[03:03] <zhaotongxue> zhaotongxue
[03:03] <zhaotongxue> nice meet you
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> !zn | zhaotongxue
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> !cn | zhaotongxue
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> where are you for,
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> form
[03:04] <Senlis> so, what is a good ATI card that is comparable to the 670?
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> 原来不只有我用中文
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> zhaotongxue: this is an ubuntu support chat mate
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> i see.
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> i have a question
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: i would focus on make your current card work...
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> how can i install both windows8 and linux(such as ubuntu)?
[03:05] <Zhaofeng_Li> Who pinged me? o.O
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Zhaofeng_Li
[03:05] <Zhaofeng_Li> Ah, nevermind (/me highlights "zhao")
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> secure boot is a bad problem
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> chinese
[03:06] <zhaotongxue>  i know you are
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: try a few ubuntu versions, with nvidia-current driver and play around with xrandr
[03:06] <Senlis> lotuspsychje: I should use bumblebee right?
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> !info bumblebee
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: never tested it mate not sure
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> Zhaofeng_Li:where are you form?
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current | Senlis
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> which city?
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> I am in zhangzhou .
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> zhaotongxue: this is not a chat
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> i see.
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> sorry
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> zhaotongxue: ubuntu problems only plz
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> but what do you mian?
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> mean
[03:08] <Guest15530> i have a qestion i get this in my termail (:0) what does this mean ?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  get it where exactly?
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[03:09] <Guest15530> under pts/1
[03:09] <zhaotongxue> how can i deal with secure boot>
[03:09] <Guest15530> does any body know this ?
[03:09] <Zhaofeng_Li> Guest15530, you mean "Terminal", right?
[03:09] <Guest15530> yes
[03:09] <Zhaofeng_Li> Guest15530, what did you get?
[03:10] <Guest15530> i got a  (:0) under who in the shell
[03:10] <Guest15530> i typed who and see who is on my computert
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  and why do you think thats a problem?
[03:10] <Guest15530> and i got this  pts/1 (:0)
[03:10] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue, you need to disable Secure Boot from the BIOS.
[03:10] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[03:10] <Guest15530> not sure
[03:11] <zhaotongxue> but i could install ubuntu in my disk
[03:11] <Guest15530> just do not get that on my other ubunt
[03:11] <zhaotongxue> zhaofeng_ li
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  its totally normal.   (:0) means the X display In this case
[03:11] <Guest15530> i did a tail
[03:11] <Guest15530> and got nothing
[03:11] <Dr_Willis>  tty7         2013-10-03 18:59 (:0)
[03:11] <Guest15530> i see
[03:11] <Guest15530> ok
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> tty7 -> the console X is running on
[03:11] <Guest15530> i see
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> pts/# - are shells and other virtual terminals
[03:11] <Guest15530> ok
[03:11] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue, ...and you can get it booted?
[03:11] <Zhaofeng_Li> s/can/can't
[03:12] <zhaotongxue> what ?
[03:12] <Guest15530> so how can i get it so no other are running
[03:12] <Guest15530> just user / and root
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  its totally normal. dont worry about it
[03:12] <Guest15530> ok
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> open 5 shells and you are in fact logged in 5 times..
[03:12] <zhaotongxue> i make the secure boot disable.but ubuntu couldnot be installed./
[03:13] <Guest15530> so all is ok then
[03:13] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue: Which error message did you get?
[03:13] <Guest15530> my gpu is running very hard and cpu
[03:13] <Guest15530> it runs about 99% most of the time
[03:14] <Guest15530> it is a p4
[03:14] <Guest15530> x86
[03:14] <zhaotongxue> 0xc000007b
[03:14] <zhaotongxue> i remember it
[03:14] <Guest15530> it keeps locking up a lot on me
[03:14] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, what graphics card do you have?
[03:14] <Guest15530> any ideas on how to make it run better
[03:15] <Guest15530> nv
[03:15] <Guest15530> mx 4000
[03:15] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, type this in terminal lspci | grep VGA and copy and paste the output...
[03:15] <Guest15530> nv mx 4000
[03:15] <legg1> http://www.techlw.com/2012/04/add-separator-line-between-commands-on.html this is pretty sweet
[03:15] <Guest15530> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[03:15] <Guest15530>
[03:15] <Guest15530>
[03:15] <FloodBot1> Guest15530: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, what ubuntu version are you running?....
[03:16] <Guest15530> humm
[03:16] <Guest15530> 12.04 lts
[03:16] <Guest15530> 1GB ram
[03:16] <skay> hi, I have a lenovo ideapad yoga, and I get a screen flicker periodically where the screen blinks with a lot of glitches. I'm having trouble describing it, so it is hard for me to do a search online to find troubleshooting tips
[03:16] <skay> I'm on raring
[03:17] <Guest15530> any ideas
[03:17] <Guest15530> cpu is at 43% on the avg  right now
[03:17] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, you might be running open source drivers.... maybe you should try proprietary.... go to additional drivers option in settings
[03:18] <Guest15530> it does not see them
[03:18] <Ari-Yang> it's not there?
[03:18] <Guest15530> nope
[03:18] <SecretFire> is there a better filemanager than dolphin or thunar?
[03:18] <skay> the other thing that happened after the most recent ubuntu update -- I can no longer use an external monitor.
[03:19] <Guest15530> gnome
[03:19] <Guest15530> or should i down grade
[03:19] <Guest15530> to 11.04
[03:19] <Ari-Yang> no
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> that version is not supported
[03:20] <Guest15530> humm
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, type in terminal apt-cache search jockey-gtk
[03:20] <Guest15530> i run a p4 x86
[03:20] <Guest15530> what is that pkg
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> it's for additional drivers... check and see if you get an output
[03:21] <Guest15530> all ready have it
[03:21] <sf> hey guys !
[03:21] <Guest15530> nvida all ready in use
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> oh okay
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, are you using Unity?....
[03:22] <Guest15530> yes 3d
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> maybe that's why perhaps?
[03:22] <Guest15530> humm  go to 2d then ?
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> switch to Unity 2D or use a DE
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> yeah
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> !DE
[03:22] <Guest15530> ok
[03:22] <Guest15530> brb
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> !cinnamon
[03:23] <uldecka> hello
[03:23] <sf> how to connect smuxi to fb server ?
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> sf:  some irc clients have scripts or plugins to work with fb chat.
[03:25] <zykotick9> SecretFire: your question will have 100 different answers.  what's better/best for one person, is not better/best for everyone.
[03:25] <sf> Thanks Sir Dr_Willis
[03:25] <CrazyZurfer> to install ubuntu, I've to disable AHCI?
[03:26] <legg1> Think only windows is annoyed with disabling/enabling ahci
[03:27] <CrazyZurfer> legg1: so, it doesn't matter?
[03:28] <legg1> shouldnt matter. i've never disabled ahci for ubuntu
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> i think if you install with it on or off.. you may need to keep it on or off.. and not switch later
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall that issue - ages ago. it may no longer be an issue
[03:28] <legg1> what Dr_Willis, dont flick the switch AFTER install.
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> best to not flick :) from whast i recall
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> but try it and see
[03:29] <CrazyZurfer> I've disabled it for installing W7
[03:29] <CrazyZurfer> so.. I'll keep it
[03:35] <serapath> hi
[03:36] <serapath> how do i check if i have all drivers for my laptop?
[03:36] <serapath> it seems as some are missing
[03:39] <zykotick9> serapath: perhaps you should share, what isn't working?
[03:40] <legg1> serapath: lspci
[03:40] <legg1> should list everything you got
[03:41] <zykotick9> legg1: well, that will list the PCI devices...
[03:41] <Senlis> I installed bumblebee on a fresh install of Ubuntu and now my OS won't boot :(
[03:41] <legg1> zykotick9: i get graphics, sound, networking etc, with lspci
[03:41] <zykotick9> legg1: yes, your PCI devices ;)
[03:42] <legg1> zykotick9: not much else around though. unless he's installed some expansioncards, in which case it would be pretty clear what is missing ^^
[03:42] <zykotick9> serapath: actually lshw might be better (not something i use personally)
[03:42] <CrazyZurfer> well
[03:43] <CrazyZurfer> when trying to install it doesn't recognize my current OS
[03:43] <CrazyZurfer> says i don't have any previous OS in the hard drive
[03:43] <zykotick9> legg1: also be aware that may not show things lacking drivers currently
[03:45] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: what makes you think there's a current OS?
[03:45] <zykotick9> legg1: there is also lsusb and lscpu
[03:46] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: Because I can run W7?
[03:46] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I've got W7 already installed
[03:46] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I can navigate my files with the file navigator in the live cd
[03:47] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: but when choosing to install, doesn't recognize my w7 and shows that my whole 1TB disk is empty
[03:47] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: okay, and Ubuntu is working?
[03:47] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: ah
[03:47] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: Live CD
[03:47] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: can you not do the manual partition?
[03:48] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I'm afraid of doing so, cause it shows me that it's empty, I could mess up my current W7 partition
[03:48] <serapath> hi
[03:49] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: try this guide http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[03:50] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: the partitioner shows it as empty?
[03:50] <reisio> serapath: hi
[03:51] <BillDev> #Bitcoin
[03:51] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: http://s24.postimg.org/jz19wz545/Captura_de_pantalla_de_2013_10_04_03_48_55.png
[03:52] <CrazyZurfer> as you can see, it appears as empty space
[03:52] <CrazyZurfer> and I can see it has files in the file manager
[03:52] <legg1> CrazyZurfer: Do you only have one HDD? If not, is the others with win7 on a Raid-controller without drivers perhaps ?
[03:52] <legg1> Ah never mind, i see the browser
[03:53] <OY1R> i'm about to install ubuntu 12 lts on a 120gb ssd. i have ahci enabled, and read up on enabling trim. should i make a swap partition on just ditch the swap ?
[03:53] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: is it a laptop?
[03:53] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: yes, a new i7 laptop
[03:54] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I say i7 cause I want to say that it's actually new and pretty good
[03:54] <reisio> uhuh
[03:54] <CrazyZurfer> i7 prossessor :)
[03:54] <legg1> CrazyZurfer: what happens if you click revertir, anything ?
[03:54] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: try this guide http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[03:54] <CrazyZurfer> legg1: nope, anything happens
[03:54] <legg1> :S
[03:55] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: ok, i think that's the only thing I can do
[03:55] <CrazyZurfer> damn, this weird problems
[03:55] <reisio> I'd check gparted from the http://sysresccd.org/ image
[03:56] <reisio> and then look in the BIOS options and check for ata stuff
[03:56] <legg1> CrazyZurfer: You can try the Windows Ubuntu installer for a previous release, then dist-upgrade it to 13.04, or soon 13.10
[03:56] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: there are also some other guides to tell you have to use the same profile from firefox and such to share within both OS
[03:56] <legg1> then it HAVE to see your windows
[03:56] <Senlis> anybody that just join know the best way to use Geforce 670 on 13.04?
[03:57] <reisio> Senlis: install a driver, use it
[03:57] <Paulus68_1> legg1: if you check out my link you see that the best way of creating a dual boot in Win 7 is to resise the partition
[03:57] <Senlis> reisio: when I did that, the computer would freeze about 30 minutes after logging in
[03:57] <owdjaodopj> I have a steelseries 5h usb sound card I want to use when gaming... it's showing up as "Headphones - Audio adapter"... do I need to install some sort of linux drivers?
[03:58] <Senlis> reisio: worked fine on nouveau
[03:59] <CrazyZurfer> when is ubuntu 13.10 comming?
[03:59] <Paulus68_1> !13.10 |crazyZurfer
[03:59] <reisio> Senlis: so use nouveau?
[03:59] <legg1> 17th
[04:00] <owdjaodopj> I have a steelseries 5h usb sound card I want to use when gaming... it's showing up as "Headphones - Audio adapter"... do I need to install some sort of linux drivers? It works perfectly (plug and play) on winblows
[04:00] <Senlis> reisio: While that is a valid option, the NVIDIA drivers have a lot better performance
[04:00] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: but does gparted show when you run it on your live cd?
[04:00] <legg1> Nouveau got some serious performanceissues compared to prop drivers
[04:00] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: it shows me errors
[04:00] <reisio> serious is a stretch
[04:00] <Senlis> reisio, legg1: from what I saw on a benchmark a month ago, games would get 10 fps on nouveau that would get 200+ fps with NVIDIA
[04:01] <owdjaodopj> card 1: Set [C-Media USB Headphone Set], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[04:01] <owdjaodopj>   Subdevices: 1/1
[04:01] <owdjaodopj>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:01] <reisio> Senlis: okay, you should try another version of the nvidia drivers, then
[04:01] <toothe> I"m still on this same damn roblem with RAID
[04:01] <owdjaodopj> it shows up fine with aplay -l go figure
[04:01] <reisio> toothe: what about raid?
[04:01] <serapath> hi
[04:01] <reisio> hi again, serapath
[04:01] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: http://s11.postimg.org/c124pb2qr/Captura_de_pantalla_de_2013_10_04_04_01_06.png
[04:01] <serapath> how can i update all my hardware and drivers?
[04:02] <Senlis> reisio: i've tried several different version of nvidia drivers.  I just found an interesting guide that shows how to blacklist nouveau before installing NVIDIA, i'm gonna try that
[04:02] <toothe> reisio: The damn installer is broken or something...
[04:02] <serapath> i have a feeling like a lot of them are not installed properly, but dont know how to check it and update if necessary
[04:02] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: can you boot into your win7 run diagnostigs and try again
[04:02] <toothe> reisio: Out of frustration I madethis short video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPn28VzGeo
[04:03] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: Might me I did something wrong when installing w7, cause the pc came with W8 and i deleted all partitions because of this GPT
[04:03] <reisio> phones should realy come with tripods
[04:04] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: what is diagnostigs, is it a microsoft's software?
[04:04] <reisio> toothe: what's the problem?
[04:04] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: when possible to a reinstall of win8 or win 7 and during install remove all the partitions,
[04:04] <toothe> reisio: I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server, and I cannot get past the RAID part.
[04:04] <toothe> reisio: Let me start from the beginning.
[04:04] <toothe> I have 2 TB HD's that I want to install Linux on, RAID 1
[04:04] <reisio> toothe: what do you want raid for
[04:05] <toothe> data backup and redundancy
[04:05] <toothe> reisio: So, my understanding is that you can do whole-disk raid, correct?
[04:05] <reisio> that isn't what raid is for
[04:05] <toothe> I want RAID 1, if that answers the question...
[04:05] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: I've deleted all partitions, even samsung's recovery
[04:05] <reisio> you can do a number of things with raid, but none of them are for backups
[04:05] <legg1> closest would be mirroring ^^
[04:06] <toothe> wrong word, pardon the usage of that word. I meant to say MIrroring, RAID 1
[04:06] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: when you are in your windows explorer right click on your hardrive and then click properties go to the second tab tools and there you have error checking and defragmantation
[04:06] <reisio> toothe: what do you want that for?
[04:06] <toothe> reisio: If one HD blows up, the second is still functional.
[04:06] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: Ok, i'll try
[04:06] <reisio> toothe: that's not really how it works
[04:06] <toothe> reisio: But, I cnanot get past the installation of the HD's.
[04:06] <toothe> reisio: ...yes it is...
[04:06] <reisio> nope
[04:06] <legg1> it's exactly what it's for ;o
[04:06] <CrazyZurfer> I'll be back soon
[04:07] <legg1> failsafe incase a drive breaks
[04:07] <toothe> exactly.
[04:07] <legg1> replace it, rebuild, no dataloss
[04:07] <toothe> legg1: Exactly.
[04:07] <toothe> so, te installation guide tells me to do something that does not work.
[04:07] <toothe> the installation guide tells me to make a RAID drive bootable, but that option is not possible.
[04:08] <legg1> unfortunately i've never used software raid via the OS, only via raidcontroller, so dont know about that :/
[04:08] <toothe> gah, I don't know where to begin...
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> sure its not saying to use the bios and select the raid drive as the boot device?
[04:08] <toothe> so, during the install, I go to Manual configuration of the partition.
[04:08] <legg1> cant you turn the controller into a raid-controller in the bios, and build the mirror there? should show up as a normal disk and easily make it bootable
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i dident think the boot flag mattered to grub or ubuntu
[04:09]  * toothe checks
[04:11] <Shabrawy> hello
[04:11] <Shabrawy> i wanna build ubuntu with some little tools
[04:11] <Shabrawy> how i could do that
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> !remaster
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> Shabrawy:  easy way would be to make a live-usb with the tools
[04:12] <legg1> can even make a install-iso out of your current operationsystem with all settings and apps
[04:12] <legg1> so you can have a easy reinstall like factory reset for recoverypartitions etc
[04:13] <Shabrawy> i wanna make a small OS
[04:13] <reisio> Shabrawy: why's that?
[04:13] <Shabrawy> may be 30 MB
[04:13] <legg1> DSL
[04:13] <reisio> Shabrawy: why
[04:13] <legg1> it's already done
[04:13] <reisio> you time travelling to the 1970s?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> tinycorelinux = 35mb
[04:13] <Shabrawy> i want to install it on thin clint
[04:13] <reisio> thin client doesn't mean 30MB
[04:13] <legg1> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ 50mb
[04:14] <Shabrawy> ya but it only with 32 MB flash
[04:14] <Shabrawy> i got alot of them
[04:14] <reisio> that's a ridiculous, fantastical constraint
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> microcore linux = 10mb
[04:14] <Shabrawy> ok that's cool
[04:14] <reisio> well glue them to your floor and you'll have done something useful with them
[04:14] <legg1> Linux 0.1 was what, 800kb or something?
[04:14] <Shabrawy> hhhhhhhhhhh
[04:15] <Shabrawy> the other porbose
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> i thought a thin client could do netboots from a server
[04:16] <Shabrawy> ya it can
[04:16] <Shabrawy> but i don't know what kind of solutions to use for this
[04:16] <Shabrawy> the mail problem is i want pcoip support
[04:16] <Shabrawy> on small os
[04:17] <legg1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto this for example
[04:17] <spinningcompass> ah, the heady days of 32KB operating systems
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> back to work on my RaspberryPi 'super computer' with 512mb of ram.
[04:18] <legg1> haha
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:18] <spinningcompass> Shabrawy: There's always Puppy Dog Linux. It's rather small… 300MB? 400MB of disk usage maybe?
[04:18] <Shabrawy> ya i've downloaded it
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Puppy Linux is a very very weird linux in many ways
[04:19] <Shabrawy> but it dosn't support pcoip
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> no idea wht pcoip even is.
[04:19] <Shabrawy> pcoip it a protocol for DVI
[04:20] <Shabrawy> used in vmware view
[04:20] <Shabrawy> it has alot good stuff
[04:20] <Shabrawy> flash compressing
[04:20] <Shabrawy> in rdp
[04:20] <Shabrawy> the p
[04:21] <Shabrawy> the streaming looks like fuzzy
[04:21] <Shabrawy> but in pcoip it dosn't
[04:28] <KxTwo> ok probably a DUMB question.  I am using 12.04lts.  On other distros there is a places menu that allows me to ssh into other machines.  How do I do that here?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> so you are doing all this work for watching videos on a thin client?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  theres a connect to server.. item in the nautilus menus
[04:29] <toothe> Oes Ubuntu's installer have fdisk anywhere? I can't seem tof in dit.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i also use the 'sshfs' tool a lot for mounting ssh servers to a local directory
[04:29] <reisio> toothe: might have been replaced by gdisk/gptfdisk/gfdisk, but I doubt it
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  fdisk is considered a bit out dated these days with gpt drives and so forth
[04:30] <reisio> or even parted
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> ther should be cfdisk also
[04:30] <KxTwo> Dr_Willis, I use it to connect to my school server so I can can move around more easily.  I like to have that open with a shell for compiling and it seems to work well fo rme.
[04:30] <toothe> I don't see any of those in myoptions...
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i just open a terminak and ssh to the server. ;) no need for a menu
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  cfdisk is a cli tool
[04:30] <reisio> toothe: options?
[04:30] <KxTwo> no need for a menu?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i ssh to my server fr a shell, or use sshfs to access files
[04:31] <toothe> reisio: in my /bin or /bin
[04:31] <KxTwo> Oh while I am here.  Everytime I have updates it crashes if I click on install updates, I have to SHOW updates then install for some reason?
[04:31] <toothe> sory, /sbin
[04:31] <toothe> wow, surely there's an fdisk option somewhere here..
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> !find fdisk
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install gnu-fdisk
[04:32] <legg1> gj :p
[04:32] <reisio> parted is better anyways
[04:32] <toothe> Dr_Willis: I'm in the installer, which doesn't have apt-get.
[04:32] <toothe> the installer's console.
[04:33] <KxTwo> ok is there a way I can pin the connect to server to the unity bar or somethign? It is actually a hassle to get to it if I have windows open
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  no idea then. desktop live cd. lets me.
[04:33] <toothe> yah, this is getting crazy.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  you could make a quicklist for  the terminal icon if you wanted. or make a gnome-terminal session that starts up the ssh connection
[04:34] <AlonzoTG> Is it possible to ___FORCE___ Ubuntu to attempt to connect to a selected wireless network? I can't find an option to connect to anything anywere.
[04:34] <AlonzoTG> I can see networks alright but there is no menu item to connect to any of them.
[04:34] <KxTwo> ok this is disappionting, the older versions had this set up better.
[04:34] <KxTwo> Though I heard that 13.04 has "places" again
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> AlonzoTG:  you could alwyas try the cli tools. or try the connect to hidden network.
[04:34] <AlonzoTG> It's not hidden.
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> It's listed in the menu,
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> I can edit it.
[04:35] <toothe> can Icall someone her?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  theres always indicator applets to get some of that stuff
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> I can set a password,
[04:35] <FloodBot1> AlonzoTG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> BUT i CA'NT CONNECT TO THE GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKING THING!!!!
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> AlonzoTG:  and you can still try the hidden menu thing even if its seen
[04:36] <KxTwo> I would just edit with nano but havent figured out how to get syntax highlighting working lol
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i recall some indicaor applets that had lists of ssh servers you can connect to.
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  what are you doing exactly - accessing files on the remote as if they were local files or needing a shell?
[04:37] <KxTwo> Dr_Willis, just accessing my project files and editing them.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  you could use sshfs and mount the server to a local folder when you login.
[04:37] <KxTwo> no need to get crazy
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> its a better solution in many ways then what you are doing
[04:38] <KxTwo> this seems to work fine
[04:38] <KxTwo> not really sure what makes it that much better
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> sshfs works with any apps. cli, gnome, or whatever can access a local file. the apps cant tell the differance..  You can set the mount at boot time, or  when you login,  you dont even NEED to login if you set it to mount them at boot.. you can use it from  the cli/console/ssh only
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> plus it works with  any of the desktops, or window managers
[04:40] <reisio> sshfs is indeed nice and straightforward
[04:40] <reisio> and even secure
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> nautilus and its .gvfs stuff can be.. picky at times. ;)
[04:41] <fishcooker> i've box that user should enter passphrase before mounting the root partition .. i think lvm encrypted.. how to disable this feature
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. the root partion has to be mounted when the system boots. so somthing seems weird there fishcooker
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> you mean it asks at boot up?
[04:42] <OY1R> just installed 12.04, it boots up to cli, how do i set it up to start x at boot.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  you installed the servver or desktop edition?
[04:43] <OY1R> desktop.
[04:44] <OY1R> unity is installed, but i have to login and startx manually.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> try 'sudo service lightdm restart' and see if it starts x
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> err.. startx is not installed by defaukt i thought any more. unity is,
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> lightdm is set to start by default on a normal ubuntu install
[04:45] <OY1R> yea i start unity with startx
[04:45] <serapath> leggl lspci? zykotick9 lots of stuff, but obviously the graphic card doesnt work, but also the wireless lan cannot connect to wlans on channel 11+
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> OY1R: try 'sudo service lightdm restart' and see if it starts x
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> or sudo service lightdm start
[04:46] <OY1R> that killed unity, now it's just blinking  _ _
[04:47] <OY1R> i had unity running but manually with startx after reboot.
[04:48] <serapath> ;eggl zykotick9 also i dont have sound on youtube
[04:48] <serapath> legg1:
[04:48] <serapath> so: no 3d effects, no sound, no wlan > channel 11
[04:48] <OY1R> ah maybe it did do the trick, i'm now getting the normal login (gui)
[04:49] <serapath> my notebook is slow as hell,even though its 2x2,5ghz+4gb RAM
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> restarting lightdm will kill off any current X session
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> and lightdm should start automatically by default. unless you are booting into Text mode, or recovery mode. or have disabled the service
[05:01] <Mr_Wizard> hello anyone
[05:05] <Mr_Wizard> can some1 give the link to ubuntu logs
[05:06] <AlonzoTG> solved it, the wifi card I use goes down on any soft-boot or suspend mode, the machine must be cold-booted for the wifi to work. =(((
[05:08] <justanotheruser> Is there a way to not allow myself to connect to the internet unless I'm connected to my VPN? I'm using nm-applet as my gui interface and an openvpn VPN.
[05:10] <wheatthin> justanotheruser, only allowing in and out access to the vpn host itself via firewall rules
[05:10] <toothe> okay, I think I'm making progress now.
[05:14] <NastyNaz> ok i just made a 4096 bit self signed ssl certificate for my server so I can use https with it. how do I trust the certificate?
[05:15] <zykotick9> Mr_Wizard: you mean #ubuntu logs, or the logs on your system?
[05:17] <Mr_Wizard> zykotick9, thanks i mean #ubuntu logs
[05:17] <zykotick9> !logs | Mr_Wizard
[05:17] <Mr_Wizard> ubottu, thanks
[05:18] <justanotheruser> How do I only allow in and out access to my vpn host via firewall rules through command lines
[05:19] <uronu> Any one knows how to authenticate samba shared folder with ldap. I was able to authenticate the samba server shared folder with ldap server in one unit. But how about separate servers.... samba server shared folder on the other unit and the ldap server in another unit? any ideas.
[05:21] <toothe> nope
[05:22] <toothe> I need to maket his fucking device bootable.
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> !language | toothe
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> and by that do you mean 'set the boot flag on the partition' ? or 'install grub to the mbr of the drive'
[05:23] <toothe> ubottu: I apologize...
[05:24] <toothe> Dr_Willis: A partition can be set as bootable.
[05:24] <toothe> however, for whatever odd reason, this device is not bootlab.e
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> 'set as bootable' in your terms means you want to set the boot flag?
[05:25] <toothe> yes.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> I do belive that in linux and grub. the bootflag is a meaningless and ignored flag. Which is why im asking in such clear terms.
[05:26] <toothe> Dr_Willis: So, I am unable to install grub on /dev/sda
[05:26] <toothe> I do not know why.
[05:28] <toothe> Dr_Willis: So, I am trying to install grub and I receive an eror during the install stating that grub cannot be installed.
[05:28] <toothe> Dr_Willis: do I need to have free space at the beginning of the drive for grub to write on?
[05:28] <toothe> perhaps that's the issue?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> so the install finishes. and then the final steps of grub setup. it mentions an error
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> grub files go into /boot/ and grub bootloader goes onto the MBR of the drive
[05:29] <toothe> it does...let me regenerate the error.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> You Might want to try the boot-repair tool from a live-cd.  I dont know how smart it is when dealing with raid
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> this url mentions command line ways of instlling grub.  but again i dont see any mention of raid specific notes or warnings.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sdb
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Executing 'grub-install '/dev/sdb' failed.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> is that the error? (or close)
[05:34] <serapath> hi
[05:35] <NastyNaz> anyone know of an easy way to serve up .mp3 files for people to listen to via http? something like soundcloud but for a personal website
[05:35] <Paulus68_1> toothe: you stated earlier that you are not able to install Grub on  /dev/sda now you are talking about sdb? or am I wrong here
[05:36] <serapath> i'm already beginning to dislike ubuntu again :-(
[05:36] <serapath> no sound, no 3d, wifi issues
[05:37] <serapath> and lack of knowledge how to open programs through hotkeys or how to customize my desktop
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/43036/how-do-i-install-grub-on-a-raid-system-installation  mentions several possible work arounds.. but i dont know what ones woukld apply to you toothe
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> 'lack of knowledge' is always an issue. but fixable. ;)
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[05:37] <Paulus68_1> serapath: everybody needs to learn
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> as for the rest.. that may be harder
[05:38] <serapath> Paulus68_1: yeah sure, if i run windows, i have sound,have 3d, have no wifi issues
[05:38] <Paulus68_1> serapath: as for the wifi can you run sudo lshw>lshw.txt
[05:38]  * Dr_Willis has had more sound, wifi, and 3d issues on windows ...  ;)
[05:39] <serapath> Paulus68_1: wifi works, but it doesnt work on channel > 11 ...but i just changed my router to use channel 8 now, so its ok now, but no sound and no 3d is awful
[05:39] <OY1R> my only major beef with Ubuntu is the switch to unity. other than that it's great.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> lspci command can also tell us the wifi chipset. whioch will be a critical bit of info to get wifi going
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  and how long have you been using unity now?
[05:40] <OY1R> i dont.
[05:40] <OY1R> i'm on 10.04
[05:40] <Paulus68_1> serapath: also lshw can inform you which driver you need to install for sound and 3D
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> so your only beef is with somthing that aparently you have never used. ;)
[05:40] <tech2> Hi all, I just upgraded to saucy and one of the ppas I was using isn't available. But that's ok since saucy provides a version sufficient to cover my needs. However, the ppa provided a version 0.005 later than the ubuntu release, so it's not just a matter of apt-get upgrade. How do I force apt to install the ubuntu version without uninstalling entirely (since it's a dep of ubuntu-minimal)?
[05:41] <OY1R> Dr_Willis, i tried it, but went back.
[05:41] <tech2> I guess I'd also prefer avoiding pinning it to a particular version if possible?
[05:41] <serapath> Paulus68_1: lots of stuff in that file
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> tech2:  you dont want to force the system to use a ppa thats for a differnt release. the ppa should get updated i imagine when 13.10 gets finalized
[05:41] <Paulus68_1> serapath: try to locate your sound card
[05:42] <tech2> Dr_Willis: perhaps it will, but I don't need the ppa at all any more (ubuntu proper provides a version with the requisite functionality), how do I revert to the ubuntu-provided package?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> actually if you upgraded. the ppa may have allready been disabled and purged
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> but i guess you can try to purge it manually
[05:43] <serapath> description: VGA compatible controller              product: 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation
[05:43] <serapath> escription: Audio device              product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation
[05:46] <Paulus68_1> serapath: can you check if your laptop/pc is listed here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:1e20/
[05:46] <tech2> Dr_Willis: the ppa was disabled, but the installed packages were still present. Thanks, looks like ppa-purge is fixing it.
[05:47] <l624> Any installed ubunt on Phone?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> tech2:  odd that the ppa had a newer one then the updated release. :)
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !touch | l624
[05:48] <serapath> Paulus68_1: nope
[05:48] <tech2> Dr_Willis: bluez, the kernel, there's a few. In this case it was a snapshots repo for vim, so I'm not _too_ surprised.
[05:48] <l624> thanks wills
[05:53] <Paulus68_1> serapath: sorry I'm running out of options here
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> gotta have the latest vim ;) they are always adding so many new features.  heh.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> or not.
[05:53] <serapath> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_Ideapad_G580
[05:54] <serapath> would it be a solution to install arch instead of ubuntu?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> heh - i always 'find' answers on the archlinux wiki also.
[05:54] <serapath> sounds as if it works with arch
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> often the answers can be used on ubuntu
[05:54] <Xeeshu> Morning!
[05:54] <Hundred> howdy :)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> but its weird that intel stuff is not working.  normally Intel hardware is very problem free
[05:55] <serapath> i have no 3d
[05:56] <serapath> this is one of the things i hate most
[05:56] <serapath> drivers not working
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> thers only 3 questions in total about the ideapad g580 on askubuntu.com
[05:56] <serapath> this is the single most important issue that always made me go back to windows
[05:56] <serapath> and i'm already thinking about just uninstalling ubuntu and go back to win7
[05:57] <serapath> win7 works like a charm
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> intel does have their 'latest drivers installer tool' at that 01.org site i recall. and theres the xorg edgers ppa.
[05:57] <OY1R> serapath, i feel your pain, just hang on in there.
[05:57] <serapath> every time i try ubuntu, which is maybe every 12 to 24 months.... its the same sad experience
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. This guys G580 has a differnt wireless card then what you said you had above.
[05:58] <serapath> for example, in windows i have the hardware manager displaying all my hardware and wether it has the newest drivers installed or whether there is a problem with it
[05:58] <serapath> why is there not such a thing in ubuntu? or is there?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> the drivers are normally all built into the kernel. so its actualy only a few cases that you update just the 'drivers'
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> totally differnt design philsoply then how wondows does it
[05:59] <OY1R> iirc the hardware manager in Windows shows what hardware is installed based on the drivers installed.
[05:59] <serapath> even if it hadnt all the drivers, at least i would know what to look for and when it works... second: i cant install chrome from the software center, same with brackets, same with sublime.. i could do it with apt-get, but then i only can start it from console and its not added to my "shortcut bar"
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Ive definatly had the windows hardware manager be brain dead. "insert driver disk for 'generic pci wireless card'"  great. ;)
[06:00] <gulag2013> chrome no , chromium-browser is in the software center
[06:00] <serapath> Dr_Willis: i had that too, but those times are gone since windows vista, stayed gone with win7 and havent come back with win8
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> as for sublime. - the sublime faq. and i think the omgubuntu, and/or webupd8 blog site mention getting an icon launcher for it.
[06:00] <serapath> the last time that stuff occured was winXP
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> serapath:  i had it happen with windows 7 just a few weeks ago. ;)
[06:01] <serapath> ok
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> but it was a very very cheap bit of hardware. ;)
[06:01] <serapath> is there another distribution that would more easily solve this automatically?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> as for google chrome. I think you just go get the deb from the google homepage. and i normally do a 'sudo gdebi chrome.deb' and it sets it up
[06:01] <serapath> maybe linux mint_
[06:01] <serapath> ?
[06:02] <Hundred> yeah mint is good
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> serapath:  go try them and see. we cant keep track of all the other disretos
[06:02] <Hundred> serpawhat cpu you have? jw
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Most intel drivers are built into the kernel and X with the open sourced drivers.  so its unusual that intel hardwre has issues.
[06:03] <Hundred> like what kind if intel cpu? jw
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> if any other disrto was using the exact same kernel version, and exact same X version. i would expect the same issues. If its a kernel/X issue
[06:05] <serapath> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/essential/g-series/g580/index.html#techspecs
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> weems theres a lot of variants of that laptop also
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> http://blog.peacon.co.uk/ubuntu-12-10-on-the-lenovo-g580-i5-3210m/  seems to be a guide on getting 'everything' working
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> but its still loading here. (cell phone) :)
[06:07] <tehrealjared> Am i irc'ing
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> seems they got a guide for newere releases also
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> tehrealjared:  yes.
[06:07] <tehrealjared> Im new to this
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> http://blog.peacon.co.uk/ubuntu-13-04-on-the-lenovo-g580-i5-3210m/
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> !irc | tehrealjared
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> have fun and ask any ubuntu support questions you may have tehrealjared
[06:10] <tehrealjared> Wow thanks
[06:10] <Hundred> yeah serapath try out linux mint, you'll like it since it is more similar to windows, ubuntu is more similar to mac
[06:11] <serapath> Hundred: hahaha, ubuntu isnt similar to mac in the slightest. that's a joke, right?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> i dont find ubuntu similer to mac at all. . ;)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> and mint is more closer to the old gnome2 i belive.
[06:12] <OY1R> i installed mint 13 on my stationary pc. works great.
[06:12] <serapath> actually, what i currently miss the most is two things: 1. all drivers/hardware work out of the box, 2. awesome hotkeys for my GUI
[06:12] <Hundred> yeah its becoming really popular now for some reason
[06:13] <serapath> is there another popular distro beside ubuntu and mint?
[06:13] <serapath> that just work?
[06:13] <OY1R> i'd like Ubuntu on there but unity put me off, hence Mint.
[06:13] <serapath> ...or at least are supposed to just work?
[06:13] <OY1R> serapath, distro that just works is Ubuntu. (99% of the time)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> from what ive been googling ubuntu just works on that g580 for most people
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> im finding very few people having issues with it
[06:14] <OY1R> more like >99.5%
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> but it could be theres differnt variants
[06:14] <serapath> OY1R cant be true, because during my life time, i tried ubuntu at least 6 times and always went back to windows. between each time,there was around 12 to 24 months
[06:15] <serapath> and it NEVER worked out of the box
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> go hit up disrtowatch and grab some iso's make some live usb's and test them out
[06:15] <serapath> so 99% is a joke too :-) its statistically impossible that i have so much bad luck
[06:15] <serapath> :P
[06:15] <toothe> so, I have grub running now
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> or theres somthing screwy with that laptop. :)
[06:15] <toothe> but...that's all I have running. I have no kernel options.
[06:15] <serapath> ...impossible = very very unlikely
[06:15] <toothe> this is insanity.
[06:15] <OY1R> you must me messing up stuff then !
[06:15] <Hundred> http://www.zdnet.com/mint-15-todays-best-linux-desktop-review-7000015691/
[06:15] <OY1R> :p
[06:15] <serapath> what about mageia?
[06:15] <Hundred> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/linux-mint-15-review-close-to-perfection
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> serapathisisa a ubuntu suport channel. if you want info about other distroes. hit up their channels.. or just go try them
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux has tools to let you put several dozen disrto's live cd's on a single iso file
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> oops single USB drive. ;)
[06:17] <Hundred> here are the most popular linux distros on http://distrowatch.org/
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> try a varity or them, redhat, slackware, ubuntu and variants, try some weird ones like tinycorelinux, and puppylinux
[06:17] <keanne> imho, for home use, the "just works" is true for majority of users. but for business workstations, any linux distro is hardly the case in my experience.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> elemantry os - is worth looking at also if you want to test
[06:18] <Hundred> linux mint and ubuntu are distros that tend to just work, no need to manually code anything
[06:20] <OY1R> i installed Ubuntu 12.04 lts on a laptop a few hours ago, same laptop refused to run linux mint, sluggish and slow as h... Ubuntu on the other hand runs great.
[06:21] <Hundred> both Ubuntu (full 2d version) and Linux Mint (Cinnamon) require more powerful computers
[06:21] <Hundred> 3d verion*
[06:22] <vijaya> checking for TTF_Linked_Version in -lSDL_ttf... no
[06:22] <vijaya> configure: error: *** Unable to find SDL_ttf library
[06:22] <vijaya> I have got this error while configuring ostbox to arm
[06:22] <vijaya> can anyone tell me why this is happening
[06:24] <Zhaofeng_Li> vijaya, try installing libsdl1.2-dev?
[06:25] <vijaya> I have installed that eventhough it is showing same error
[06:25] <Zhaofeng_Li> oops, libsdl-ttf2.0-dev is more relevant
[06:25] <OY1R> it's no powerhouse of a laptop, but good enough for web stuff and solitary! (~2ghz cpu 4gb ram and 120gb ssd)
[06:25] <vijaya> I have tried in both ways even it is showing same error..
[06:25] <Hundred> OY1R you can try out Lubuntu or Xubuntu, they are both more lightweight compare to Ubuntu and Mint
[06:26] <Valdus> hello, I got a thinkpad today and i'm running ubuntu.  just wondering if anyone knows if there are any other options for using the fingerprint scanner other than the 'fingerprint-gui' package
[06:26] <vijaya> one doubt I have, do I need to crosscompile the SDL for arm???
[06:26] <wadie> problem: I can't see the video but can hear the audio. it happens on media player and VLC.
[06:27]  * Zhaofeng_Li is not familiar with that, sorry
[06:27] <wadie> using unity 2d
[06:27] <OY1R> it runs unity fine(My fathers laptop), i wont touch it tho.
[06:28] <OY1R> i'm on an old dell inspiron 9400. it runs like a dream. 2ghz intel core 2, 4gb ram and a 500gb hybrid drive.
[06:28] <OY1R> 10.04
[06:29] <vijaya> has anyone faced this problem ever..... configure: error: *** Unable to find SDL_ttf library
[06:30] <Moicano0> list
[06:30] <Moicano0> #list
[06:31] <arquebus> I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop and it will only boot into the bios (eufi) screen. what is the prefered way to get Ubuntu to run on a eufi laptop?
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> vijaya: ttf -> truetypefont?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !find sdl_fft
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> oops :)
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !find sdl_ttf
[06:32] <vijaya>  sry aeon-ltd: I donot have much idea about that SDL_ttf
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> libsdl-ttf2.0-0 - TrueType Font library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2, libraries
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> that looks close to me. )
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> what are you trying to compile anyway?
[06:32] <vijaya> problem is while linking....
[06:33] <vijaya> ./configure --prefix=$PREFIX --exec-prefix=$PREFIX --host=arm-linux CC=/home/vijaya/Desktop/xtools/arm-unknown-linux-uclibcgnueabi/bin/arm-unknown-linux-uclibcgnueabi-gcc
[06:33] <vijaya> this is the command I am using for configuring
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> well that pretty much moves it out of my skill-area ;)
[06:34] <vijaya> Dr_Willis: do u have any idea about this??
[06:34] <arquebus> does no one have anything to say on how to install ubuntu on a eufi laptop?? I would think that would be the most common question here
[06:34] <flam_> hi, i'm using kde and when trying to set desktop wallpaper with feh (feh --<background option> <path to image>) nothing happens, what could be the reason for this?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> not really. I dont develop that much. and when i do compile stuff its normally ofthe good old    ./configure, make, make install    routine
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> I did compile weechat on my raspberry-pi last week.. took the little thing like 2 hrs.
[06:35] <keanne> arquebus: i have installed ubuntu in an uefi laptop without problems. just make sure to configure the bios to boot from grub
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> flam_:  could be changes to how kde does the wallpaper these days are so difernt from wht feh is expecting
[06:36] <vijaya> earlier I was doing normal compile for x86 architecture... now I need to compile for arm
[06:36] <SoItBegins2> I'm on a 2008(?) MacBook Pro [MacBookPro4,1] and I'm having problems where my keyboard and mouse both cut out intermittently but often.
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> arquebus: is secure boot on?
[06:36] <OY1R> arquebus, it's UEFI :)
[06:36] <arquebus> keanne, did you convert the hd to use MBT partitions or GPT?
[06:36] <keanne> arquebus: but i have not done dual booting with uefi so i just disable it, less hassle
[06:36] <keanne> arquebus: GPT
[06:36] <arquebus> aeon-ltd: no, I turned off secure boot
[06:37] <keanne> arquebus: strange that you've asked about gpt, with ubuntu its pretty straight forward. with centos i need to manually configure gpt
[06:37] <arquebus> keanne- Im not dual booting, I just need info on how I get grub to use GPT, it looks complicated, like I have to resize the partitions with fdisk
[06:38] <OY1R> arquebus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI maybe something you can check out. (if you havent already done that=
[06:38] <OY1R> )
[06:38] <toothe> this guy on experts-exchange doesn't evne read what I write
[06:38] <toothe> he just keeps repeating himself.
[06:38] <keanne> arquebus: i dont remember having that process with ubuntu.
[06:39] <keanne> arquebus: oh, then its easier to just turn uefi off. can't you turn if off?
[06:40] <SoItBegins2> In XOrg.0.log, the (EE) lines for the trackpad/kb failure are as follows:
[06:41] <SoItBegins2> [  3406.848] (EE) synaptics: bcm5974: no synaptics event device found
[06:41] <SoItBegins2> [  3406.848] (EE) synaptics: bcm5974: Synaptics driver unable to detect protocol
[06:42] <SoItBegins2> And then the trackpad is redetected. But it's still a great pain, because the trackpad and keyboard are then offline for a span of up to a minute before the computer redetects it.
[06:42] <SoItBegins2> Anyone have ideas on this?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> SoItBegins2:  has it done this in other disrtos also? from differnt live cds?
[06:44] <SoItBegins2> I don't know about other distros, but it does not do it on Mac OS X 10.6. It did do it in the version of Ubuntu 11 I upgraded from.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> id test it with a newer live cd if you can . if a 12.04 live  cd has the same issues. that would point to a 12.04 kernel issue/bug.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> if it works however. that would point to some odd quirk with the upgrade process
[06:45] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <SoItBegins2> I'm running 12.04 now. The bug happens in both 11 and 12.04
[06:46] <SoItBegins2> Or did you mean specifically run from a liveCD?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> yes from a live cd.
[06:51] <SoItBegins2> Ah, OK. Thanks.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> that would narrow it down to a 'upgrade issue' or not
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> id even test with a 13.0x or 13.10 live cd
[06:52] <mihir_> what tool is used by ubuntu to do the software update, does it use wget to download the files in background?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> if all those have the same issue. Id then try a radically differnt  disrto like Fedora or arch
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> mihir_:  i think it uses curl.   do a 'ps ax' and see whts running as it downloads somthing
[06:53] <mihir_> ok
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt, explore the os. ;)
[06:54] <aeon-ltd> SoItBegins2: long shot... is there such thing as a kb/m sleep function?
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> i'm just guessing since some mbp have kb backlights
[06:56] <SoItBegins2> Well, I have got one of the ones with the backlit keyboard.
[06:56] <SoItBegins2> Dunno what it is you're describing, though-- when the KB and trackpad go out, external keyboards and mice still work perfectly.
[06:57] <SoItBegins2> Be right back.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> the lights go off also?
[06:57] <SoItBegins2> Oh. No, they don't.
[06:58] <SoItBegins2> (going to restart)
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> SoItBegins2: http://jasonrobb.com/v2/2008/11/24/macbook-pro-unresponsive-keyboard-trackpad-solution/
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> mbp also 2008
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> if you're trying this don't short anything/tase yourself :)
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> 10000000 volts of raw powar! ;)
[06:59] <SoItBegins2> Ah, the famous ribbon cable problem. I actually had that happen to me, but fixed it; this intermittency problem does not occur in Mac OS X, possibly as a testament to that.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> or it is just revovering faster
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> recovering
[07:00] <SoItBegins2> Well, the ribbon cable problem doesn't recover until you 'unplug' and 'replug' it, which is what the cable is.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> i mean the os sees and reloads/resets the hardware driver or whatever faster when it sees it disconnect/reconnect
[07:01] <SoItBegins2> If I'm reading the log right, I think this is a software problem where the trackpad driver zones out and then catches itself.
[07:02] <SoItBegins2> (brb restart)
[07:03] <Hundred> hello, i'm seeking a conservative/libertarian girlfriend :)
[07:04] <Zhaofeng_Li> Hundred, this channel is for Ubuntu issues only. For some chit-chat, try #defocus.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Hundred:  try #ubuntu-offtopic or #foreveralone
[07:05] <arquebus> I just ran rfkill list on my laptop and discovered that my wireless LAN is hardblocked. I looked in the manual and it doesnt say anything about a wifi switch. what should I do?
[07:06] <SoItBegins> OK, back again.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> arquebus:  ive seen where people boot to windows. make sure the wifi is on. then reboot back to linux . (there are the fn-FX keys to toggle wifi also)
[07:06] <arquebus> Dr_Willis: thanks, but Im not dual booting
[07:28] <atossava> morning :) OK, I failed massively... The system reported problems with libpango1.0 while building a new initrd (this is on 13.04)
[07:28] <atossava> so I removed libpango1.0.
[07:28] <atossava> :D
[07:28] <atossava> practically everything related to any form of GUI is now gone
[07:29] <gordonjcp> heh
[07:29] <gordonjcp> that's pretty fail, right enough
[07:29] <gordonjcp> try installing ubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <gordonjcp> it's a metapackage that ought to pull in all the deps
[07:29] <atossava> what I'm trying is to have a non-Unity non-Compiz desktop...
[07:29] <gordonjcp> and try not installing stuff when you don't quite understand what it is
[07:30] <gordonjcp> atossava: xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <atossava> gordonjcp: that is generally good advice :)
[07:30] <atossava> Composite and nVidia hardware overlay don't play together, and I need the HW overlay for something
[07:30] <gordonjcp> ubuntu-desktop will pull in Unity, which is the standard desktop environment
[07:30] <atossava> yupyup
[07:30] <atossava> disabling Composite in xorg.conf makes Unity very unhappy :)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> composite can normally be turned on and off on the fly i thought from most desktops
[07:31] <SoItBegins2> This is interesting. When the keyboard fails, the backlight doesn't go out...
[07:31] <SoItBegins2> but the little caps lock light DOES.
[07:32] <atossava> dr_willis: compiz doesn't survive without Composite
[07:32] <earthling_> looks like the ubuntu-beginners channel got shut down
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> theres other compositing window managers out there  that can turn it on/off on the fly.
[07:32] <atossava> dr_willis: perhaps so, but this is the default, and it's been OK for me until now
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> atossava:  so what desktop/window manger do you want?   ;)
[07:33] <atossava> dr_willis: I'm comfortable with anything.  I guess I should go back to twm
[07:33] <atossava> mwm... 4Dwm
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> atossava:  theres dozens in the repos. ;) lightest would be jwm i belive. but its verybaic
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> basic
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> then again - its like a huge 300k ;)
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[07:33] <atossava> thanks
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> 290k! ;)
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> it all depends on what you need the sysem to do
[07:34] <atossava> light is not an issue, but surviving without Composite (which is a requirement for nVidia Option "Overlay" to work) is
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> what sort of overlay do you mean? i cant recall ever needing to mess with it befor
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> kde can definatly turn compositing on and off on the fly.
[07:36] <atossava> Dr_Willis: I have an application on Solaris that needs a 8bit pseudocolor overlay.  In the regular case, trying to start it up results in a coredump on the Sun.  The only X terminal with which it works effortlessly is another Sun, or a SGI.  It might have worked with the AcceleratedX server from Xi Graphics.
[07:37] <atossava> I do have ten SGIs... in the basement, and some of them might even be in working condition.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> im so old.. i actually rember sun workstations and the Xi X server. ;)
[07:37] <SoItBegins2> And oddly enough, with the caps lock light (but not caps lock) on, the keyboard and mouse seem to be working perfectly.
[07:38] <atossava> Dr_Willis: Well, needing to run a Solaris app pretty much dates me, doesn't it. :)
[07:38]  * Dr_Willis used to irc on greenbar printing tty-terminals
[07:38]  * gordonjcp used to IRC over 9600bps radio modems
[07:39] <gordonjcp> but then again, I did that yesterday...
[07:39] <atossava> Mh-mh. I used to connect to BBSes with 300 bps modems back in 1984. :D
[07:39] <atossava> I've got the overlays enabled and Composite is not in the way. It does not work.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> radio? Luxery! ;)
[07:39] <atossava> So I've been wasting my time, but I needed to know that. :)
[07:39] <gordonjcp> if I still had a landline phone I'd fire up my old BBS
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> back to the drawing board then eh.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> multiplexed serial terminal   (using dnet on my amiga) at 9600 baud in college/ :)  i was so leet back then.
[07:40] <atossava> Back to the SGI stash in order to get a real X terminal going. :)
[07:42] <atossava> re-enable Composite, disable Overlay, install ubuntu-desktop, get things back to whatever counts as normal... :D
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> ill just go play with my raspberry-pi
[07:45] <kenn_> hello people
[07:47] <kenn_> chromium asks keyring password at starting chromium, how can i disable it?
[07:47] <kenn_> i use ubuntu 13.04
[07:49] <ArielX__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6191217/
[07:50] <rubic> I'm trying to launch xmag via a key binding in i3 but it screws up somehow and doesnt take any mouse input, it works find when I launch it manually. How can I fix this?
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> kenn_, How did you install it?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> if you set a blank keyring password - it shouldent ever ask for it
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> !ppa } ArielX__
[07:54] <ArielX__> yes
[07:54] <wilee-nilee>  !ppa | ArielX__
[07:55] <ArielX__> how do I remove the ppa since its 404
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> !ppapurge
[08:03] <jack---> help - im using an usb stick to connect - connecting works but i get disconnected like after 20 seconds unless i immediately start a huge download
[08:06] <jack---> for now, "apt-get install nexuiz" does the job
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> ping some server like 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>' in a terminal and see f that works
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> theres some known issues with wifi cards and powersaveing modes disconnecting  if the connection is not used after some time
[08:11] <jack---> Dr_Willis, that works but doesnt keep my connction up
[08:11] <jack---> disconnects anyway
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> thats weird
[08:12] <jack---> yup :/
[08:12] <Guest21795> any known problems with qtcreator <-> gdb after last 13.10 updates?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> so it pings for about 20 sec. then pings start failing
[08:12] <jack---> like that, yeah
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> id cget the exact chipset that dongle is using. and check the forums and askubuntu.com there might be some known work arounds
[08:14] <jack---> ok, will try that
[08:18] <crankharder> anyone know where errors from upstart init scripts end up?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> in /var/log somewehere i imagine
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> you can tail -f /lots/of files and watch them all ;)
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> i recall other log watchers also. some with color. but havent used them in ages
[08:21] <crankharder> var/log/upstart ;)
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> how logical ;)
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> in windiwz it would be some weird place i bet ;)
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> I'm at a client and I have a problem ubuntu box
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> nothing I do frees up any space on the hard drive
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> typically linux
[08:23] <cfhowlett> viaSanctus_, error messages?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> check the log files  in /var/log and the users home.
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> none
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> I have 0 bytes free
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> ive seen log files grow for weird reasons to huge size due to error messages
[08:24] <viaSanctus_> and need to free just a meg or so
[08:24] <crankharder> it really hates a call to /usr/bin/test :(  just seems to stop the script dead
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> and they grow as fast as you free space
[08:24] <viaSanctus_> can I delete the src / header files?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get clean   - would clear out the apt cache - that can be several gb in size on some setups viaSanctus_
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> done that several times
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> have 2 hard drives
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> 1 with lots of space free
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> and 1 with none
[08:25] <FloodBot1> viaSanctus_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> if the space is filling up as fast as you free it - thats exactly what ive seen with  log files
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, it's annoying the hell out of me
[08:25] <k1l> viaSanctus_: so a "sudo apt-get autoremove &&sudo apt-get autoclean"
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> the ~/.xsession-errors   file wa he issue for me
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> so look and see how big the file is
[08:26] <k1l> viaSanctus_: that should free some space on the / partition. but if you know that problem i wonder why you do the same mistake over and over again?
[08:26] <viaSanctus_> can't see hidden files
[08:26] <viaSanctus_> over and over again?
[08:27] <leo> has anyone here been to the heart attack girl?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> ls -al  .thefilename
[08:27] <k1l> viaSanctus_: you just told its happening often to you
[08:27] <johest> moin guys,  /etc/ssl/certs/Firmaprofesional_Root_CA.pem expires in 20 days (12.04 LTS)
[08:27] <k1l> leo: keep it to ubuntu support in here, please
[08:27] <viaSanctus_> k1l, never said that
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> ls -al ~/.xsession-errors
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> johest: I suggest you report a bug
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> leo: do you mean 'grill'?
[08:29] <lagerpc> Does anyone here have a laptop with Iris Pro 5200? Wondering if it works as easy as the Intel Graphic HD range cards, where drivers are pretty much a non-issue.
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  no.. its a girlfriend tht serves you bacon for every meal. ;)
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> k1l: did you sneeze and run a macro? :)
[08:35] <lagerpc> Are there even any good laptops with Iris Pro 5200 available atm?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> lagerpc: ask in ##hardware
[08:44] <viaSanctus_> this is turning into a disaster
[08:44] <viaSanctus_> i've deleted the whole log content
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> nothing changes
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> 0 B free
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> when I move back the log content from a backup location
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> I can't siply copy the whole content back into the log folder. How is that even possible if 0B is free?????
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> I can copy*
[08:45] <Strit> Do you have Remote desktop activated?
[08:46] <viaSanctus_> no
[08:47] <Strit> viaSanctus_, My xsessions log quickly filled up my harddrive because someone tried to connect to my remote desktop all the time. After I disabled it, I had no problems. What does the log say?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> did you check the log file in the users home? for the xorg stuff
[08:47] <viaSanctus_> Strit, it's not that
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ls -al ~/.xsession-errors              would show its size
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> I cut/pasted the whole log content to a backup locations
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> so if the storage was filling up, it would be full
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> but i could paste the log content back
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> even though it said 0B free
[08:48] <k1l> viaSanctus_: is this system still running?
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> ?
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> i'm in it
[08:48] <Strit> how big is the .xsession-errors file?
[08:49] <k1l> viaSanctus_: then please pastebin a "df -h"
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> mine go to 17gb the other day
[08:49] <viaSanctus_> Strit, do you understand what I'm trying to say?
[08:49] <k1l> viaSanctus_: show the df-h please
[08:49] <happyjoy> how do i run a filesystem check on sdc?
[08:49] <k1l> "df -h"
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> one sec, rebooting the system
[08:50] <Strit> viaSanctus_, I think so, is the baclup location on the same disc?
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> of course not
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> !fsck | happyjoy
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> oh wait, another partition
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> same disk
[08:50] <happyjoy> that doesnt answer my question
[08:50] <happyjoy> *how*
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> happyjoy:  do that sudo touch.... command and reboot.
[08:51] <happyjoy> man page does not show an example of how a command is supposed to look
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> happyjoy:  or unmount the filesystem and 'fsck /dev/sda1'  or whatever
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> fsck [-lsAVRTMNP] [-C [fd]] [-t fstype] [filesys...]
[08:52] <happyjoy> i did unmount and ran sudo fsck /dev/sdc and got something about a bad block and bad superblock then the check was aborted
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> fsck                      -f ext4   /dev/sda1        (for example)
[08:52] <happyjoy> so i guess i did it right
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> no.. its not sdc
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> it would be sdc1  most likiely
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> sdc is the disk.. sdc1 is partion 1 on the disk
[08:52] <Dr_Willis>
[08:53] <sf> hahahaha
[08:55] <viaSanctus_> Strit, 1129 large
[08:55] <viaSanctus_> it probably means bytes or kb
[08:55] <viaSanctus_> in any case it's not the problem
[08:56] <k1l> viaSanctus_: please show in a pastebin "df -h"
[08:56] <k1l> !paste | viaSanctus_
[08:56] <ddssc> what's the easiest way to grant user access over sftp and have that user locked to one specific dir?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis>  ddssc  that seems to get asked in here every day.. theres not a quick answer. I imagine theres posts about it at askubuntu.com - ive not seen a 'simple' answer ever given in here
[08:58] <viaSanctus_> it says /dev/sda1 size 15G used 15G avail 0 use 100% mounted on /
[08:58] <viaSanctus_> the rest is all on other partitions
[08:58] <ddssc> Dr_Willis: the reason it's asked is because apparently there's not a clean solution for it in ubuntu. all I want to do is create a dir, and grant access over it to a certain user. I don't want this user to be able to write outside or even look outside this dir.
[08:58] <viaSanctus_> with free space
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: uninstall unused kernels is a good start
[08:58] <k1l> viaSanctus_: *sigh*
[08:58] <ddssc> fairly simple request really, dont know why it has to be so complicated in ubuntu...
[08:58] <k1l> viaSanctus_: then do the apt-get commands i told you before
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: its very simple
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> ddssc:  they souldent be able to write out side the dir without the right permissions. as for looking.. i dnt see what the big deal is
[08:59] <viaSanctus_> k1l, please paste it again
[08:59] <k1l> viaSanctus_: and remove old kernel-packages and older header packages
[08:59] <ddssc> Dr_Willis: looking at this atm. http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes
[08:59] <viaSanctus_> there are only 2 header folders
[08:59] <viaSanctus_> guess they are not "old" ones
[08:59] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: then please do share.
 viaSanctus_: so a "sudo apt-get autoremove &&sudo apt-get autoclean"
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: in what way?
[09:00] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: in way of words. written on my screen.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: I have OAPs and so forth using Ubuntu to browse the web, zero issues
[09:00] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: that doesn't tell me anything.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: what are you finding not simple, exactly?
[09:00] <k1l> viaSanctus_: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-header" in a _pastebin_
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> k1l: dpkg -l | grep linux-header | pastebinit     ;) assuming it's installed
[09:03] <viaSanctus_> http://pastebin.com/BMx76Gdi
[09:03] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: locking user to sftp access only , on his home dir only.
[09:03] <viaSanctus_> man I hate linux
[09:04] <ddssc> viaSanctus_: welcome to the club :)
[09:04] <k1l> viaSanctus_: is this a lucid?
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> demand a refund
[09:04] <viaSanctus_> lucid?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes
[09:04] <k1l> viaSanctus_: stop that ranting, please
[09:04] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, I wish I could pay and have it working
[09:04] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: reading this as we speak
[09:04] <k1l> viaSanctus_: what does "lsb_release -a" give you? (please put into a pastebin)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: funny how I found that in about....what....5 seconds?
[09:05] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: i found that before I even came to this channel
[09:05] <viaSanctus_> no lsb modules are available
[09:05] <viaSanctus_> ubuntu 8.04
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: Hardy is very dead
[09:05] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: and read the comment about it not working to lock user out of browsing the entire file system. as is usually the case.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: http://shapeshed.com/chroot_sftp_users_on_ubuntu_intrepid/
[09:05] <viaSanctus_> it's a printer controller
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> wow a 5 yr old install.
[09:05] <k1l> viaSanctus_: this is out of support anyway
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> I just need to add a cutter device and therefor I need free space just to modify the config file
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> cian1500ww: your release is not supported in any way you can name
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> k1l, it's possible to free space in windows 3.01 even today
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: ^
[09:06] <k1l> viaSanctus_: stop that ranting! last warning
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> cian1500ww: tab fail, sorry
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> oh buy we got a hero
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> go ban me..very brave
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> viaSanctus_:  and did you look at the size of the users ~/.xsession-errors file?    i never saw youmention it..
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, yes
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> 1180 large (guessing it's kb)
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> delete that file. and clean out all the logs. is about all i can suggest.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> it could be GB
[09:07] <jack_mathew> yeah
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, did that
[09:07] <jack_mathew> How I can pen test this website
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> VaNNi: that's 1Mb. I recommend a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 2017
[09:07] <jack_mathew> http://thereligionofpeace.com/
[09:07] <k1l> viaSanctus_: you come in here playing the" i know everything" guy. just blaming linux/ubuntu for everything. and then running a ubunut which is out of support since ages
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> k1l, can we please keep it to this problem instead of my behavior
[09:07] <k1l> good luck with that
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> I'm frustrated, hence my words
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> it's human..happens to every guy, you 2
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: its the same as calling Microsoft for Windows 98 support
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: they wont help you, its dead and gone. So is Hardy
[09:08] <sharpy35> hey guys. under ubuntu, what is the best way to format a windows drive
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> ffs..i ended up in an irc "there's a guy wrong on the net" situation
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> sharpy35:  mkfs.nfts
[09:08] <michael87> I did something stupid. I burnt a video file for a friend for his xbox 360 on windows 7 yesterday. today I burnt another video but on brasero burner on my ubuntu laptop and now the other video won't show on here. yet when I switch back to 7 it reads the OTHER video I burnt. is there a way for both of them to be read on a single system?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> sharpy35:  or use gparted
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> i've never called ms in my life
[09:09] <viaSanctus_> i just need a meg free space
[09:09] <viaSanctus_> how hard can it be?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: just explaining the support to you, noboy said anything a "wrong guy"
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: if its not hard, you do it
[09:09] <sharpy35> okay thanks . i will try it with gparted
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> viaSanctus_:  if somthing is growing as fast as you free space.. then you may want to use a live cd and exp,ore the fs and free up space
[09:09] <michael87> burnt both on a single dvd btw
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  you mean a multi-session dvd?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: you'll probably find a new install cures your issue
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure if ubuntu can access files on a 2nd session.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> not even sure how windows accesses them
[09:10] <michael87> Dr_Willis, yeah I guess I did that.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure how to Make a multi-session dvd. :)
[09:10] <viaSanctus_> ActionParsnip, I'm in a production env with a whole team waiting for this to work
[09:11] <sharpy35> if i format it to ntfs with gparted, then all files and so on will be deleted right_
[09:11] <viaSanctus_> can't tell them, we need a new install
[09:11] <viaSanctus_> I need a meg free space
[09:11] <viaSanctus_> thats it
[09:11] <Dudytz> hi all! I have a problem with locale and perl: "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." can anyone help me?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: your release isnt supported by the community
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> do a scan for big files.. as you are monitoring disk space in a 2nd shell window.  delte somting.. see if the space frees up .. then fills back up
[09:11] <michael87> dr_willis. damn :(
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> if somthing is filling up space as fast as you free it.. you need to determine what
[09:13] <Dudytz> I have the language set to en_US.UTF-8 and time, currency, ecc to it_IT ... but all perl programs outputs warning of locale settings ... please, see: http://pastebin.com/bAc6LBs3
[09:13] <Guest21795> any known problems with qtcreator <-> gdb after last 13.10 updates?
[09:13] <Dudytz> I do the locale-gen and dpkg-reconfigure locales ... without success
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Dudytz: have you asked in #perl too?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> if its just a warning. it shouldent hurt anything ;)
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recal seeing that error in the past ages ago
[09:14] <Dudytz> no .. ok, I ask #perl
[09:14] <Dudytz> thanks
[09:14] <NET||abuse> I need to inspect traffic using burp, but not polute my phone with more certificates. it wants a pkcs12 passworded key, i created one from the pem mitmproxy is using and my phone is already set to accept. but it didn't work :(
[09:14] <k1l> !saucy | Guest21795
[09:15] <NET||abuse> has anyone used these tools and knows how to succesfully convert the certs over for burpsuit?
[09:15] <michael87> perhaps someone else can figure this out
[09:15] <michael87> I did something stupid. I burnt a video file for a friend for his xbox 360 on windows 7 yesterday. today I burnt another video but on brasero burner on my ubuntu laptop and now the other video won't show on here. yet when I switch back to 7 it reads the OTHER video I burnt. is there a way for both of them to be read on a single system?
[09:15] <Guest21795> thx
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  i doubt if its going to be possible on the 360
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  it
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> its easier to just set up a dlna/upnp server ;)
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> disks are so ... 1990
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: true true
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: sftp over wan :)
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> been using Plex Server and Plex-pi lately here
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: yeah plex is pretty swee
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: plus plex can run on android too
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> plex was on sale a week or so ago ;)
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> got it then. I dont subscribe to that myplex however.
[09:35] <lolcat> Hello
[09:35] <lolcat> My X-server stopped working
[09:35] <lolcat> How can I reconfigure it?
[09:35] <lolcat> It goes into low-graphics, but no input works
[09:35] <lolcat> has to be commandline
[09:36] <lolcat> !xorg
[09:37] <lolcat> !xorgconfg
[09:37] <lolcat> !xorgconf
[09:38] <lolcat> Anyone?
[09:38] <linuxuz3r> try dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> common issue.. cant say ive4 seen a common/simple fix.
[09:40] <k1l> lolcat: what did you do before that happend? which driver is installed? where is the driver from?
[09:41] <lolcat> I think I may have upgraded
[09:41] <lolcat> I think I am using the AMD one
[09:42] <lolcat> I probably need it to make me an inframs thingy?
[09:42] <k1l> if its not the ubuntu driver but driver from some homepage you might need to reinstall it after a kernel upgrade
[09:42] <lolcat> I can't enter homepages without X
[09:42] <lolcat> How do I make it just use whatever is default?
[09:43] <lolcat> Or would rebooint into .23 work?
[09:43] <lucido> startup applications, the commands set there are executed as what user?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> depenmds on which ones you mean
[09:43] <Heebie> Does anyone know of a xen-kernel package for Ubuntu that adds paravirtualisation under Xen?
[09:43] <k1l> lolcat: yes, you could try the odler kernel entry in grub for testing
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> ~/.config/autostart/ - ran as the user.
[09:43] <lolcat> I just need ANY graphical interface
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> lolcat:  sudo apt-get install jwm      then select jwm at the login screen perhaps?
[09:44] <lolcat> I don't need 3d or 2d acceleration
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> thats the most minimal window manager in the repos
[09:44] <lolcat> Dr_Willis: I cant get to the login screen
[09:44] <lolcat> It pops up: GRAPHICS PROBLEM DETECTED
[09:44] <lolcat> And then it won't let me click or press anything
[09:44] <k1l> lolcat: you could show the dmesg and syslog in a pastebin
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> and the xorg log
[09:44] <lolcat> k1l: I just want to revert to the standard driver
[09:45] <k1l> lolcat: so you did something with drivers?
[09:45] <lolcat> No
[09:45] <lolcat> I upgraded my kernel
[09:45] <k1l> upgraded manually?
[09:46] <k1l> lolcat: do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and pastebinit /var/log/syslog" and show them both urls in here
[09:48] <lolcat> k1l: It is a PITA to pastebin without X
[09:48] <lucido> Dr_Willis, startup application preferences  the command is: /bin/sh sudo /usr/bin/nvclock -n 630 -m 610 -f, I need to know because I have to set up a nopassword option in the sudoers file
[09:48] <lolcat> Is there any display enviroment I can start without lightdm ruinging everything?
[09:48] <k1l> lolcat: use a tty then and just type the shortened url into here
[09:49] <lolcat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6191565
[09:49] <lolcat> But all I need to do is to revert to the NORMAL STANDARD OPEN driver
[09:49] <lolcat> Or even switch to the intel thing
[09:51] <malinus> am I supposed to enable firewall on ubuntu with ufw or leav it off, like it is by default? It kinda worries me that the firewall is off by default?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> malinus, turn it on if you want.
[09:53] <lolcat> k1l: I just need the name of the packages I need to remove
[09:53] <lolcat> fglrx
[09:53] <lolcat> remove it
[09:53] <lolcat> reinstall
[09:54] <lolcat> aticonfig
[09:54] <lolcat> done?
[09:54] <FloodBot1> lolcat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <k1l> lolcat: you got a amd video card? then its fglrx, yes
[09:54] <k1l> make sure kernel-headers are installed for the kernel to led the module be build for you
[09:59] <lolcat> k1l: I removed fglrx with apt and is now reinstalling, will that work?
[09:59] <k1l> watch out for errors
[10:01] <eeos> hi everybody! Incredible problem here: after the last apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, every time I press the THIRD button of the mouse (right button) uit sends the laptop into SUSPEND mode!!!!
[10:01] <eeos> What the heck?
[10:02] <lolcat> There
[10:04] <Dai_1987> eeos: all I can say is... lol
[10:05] <eeos> Me to .... solved by removing the key binding .... for some strange reason it had set the key bdinding so that every time I pressed that button it went into suspend. :D
[10:05] <eeos> so problem solved!
[10:10] <nil_mane> hi
[10:10] <cfhowlett> nil_mane, greetings
[10:11] <hexacode> hey anyone know of proxy as a service out there? like a community of proxies that can be used and shuffled as a service
[10:11] <Reacto> Can't get my usb --> ethernet adapter working, was plug and play in fedora :(
[10:14] <k1l> hexacode: thats more a topic for the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <k1l> Reacto: please show the "lsusb" line and show the dmesg output after putting it in in a pastebin please
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: what kernel module does it use in Fedora?
[10:17] <Reacto> http://pastie.org/8377089
[10:18] <Reacto> http://pastie.org/8377090
[10:18] <Reacto> I'm not sure, I don't have fedora installed anymore
[10:18] <Reacto> gonna try installing asix drivers
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: boot to the live desktop and connect it, then run:   sudo lshw -C network    once you see the module, you can make steps to get it into Ubuntu
[10:20] <lenz> Hey there! I am having a problem with Empathy and it's facebook integration. Whome do I ask?
[10:22] <k1l> Reacto: take a look into this: https://launchpad.net/ax88179
[10:22] <k1l> (it states, that its running with kernel 3.11 in 13.10 ootb)
[10:24] <a> quit
[10:24] <a> exit
[10:24] <Reacto> now it works :D
[10:24] <Reacto> just installed asix
[10:25] <lenz> Hey there! I am having a problem with Empathy and it's facebook integration. Whome do I ask?
[10:25] <Reacto> another question though, what's the su equivalent in ubuntu?
[10:25] <Reacto> in fedora su let me change to root
[10:25] <Reacto> so I didnt have to write sudo infront of multiple commands
[10:26] <lenz> Reacto "sudo -i"
[10:26] <cfhowlett> !root|Reacto,
[10:26] <Reacto> in ubuntu I just get failed authentication
[10:26] <Reacto> kk thanks
[10:26] <Reacto> thought it was sudo -i, just didnt know if it was the same
[10:26] <biojl> Hi, I have some trouble with the sound in ubuntu 12.04. I've tried all solutions I found in forums but nothing worked
[10:26] <k1l> Reacto: there is no activated root account. so the ubuntu way is to use sudo instead
[10:27] <biojl> my hint is that it may be some trouble with the graph card
[10:27] <biojl> since I have 2 in devices
[10:27] <biojl> anyone could help me_
[10:28] <biojl> jl@Camazotz:~$ head -n 1 /proc/asound/card*/codec* ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 <== Codec: Nvidia GPU 41 HDMI/DP  ==> /proc/asound/card1/codec#1 <== Codec: Creative CA0132
[10:31] <biojl> hello?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> biojl, if no one knows, no one speaks.
[10:31] <rishi_> hi
[10:32] <cfhowlett> rishi_, greetings
[10:32] <rishi_> i would like to go for paid support ubuntu server
[10:32] <biojl> ok...
[10:32] <rishi_> india
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|rishi_,
[10:32] <rishi_> where will i get paid support in india
[10:33] <rishi_> any third party ?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> rishi_, http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[10:34] <cfhowlett> rishi_, or this one ... http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/support
[10:34] <rishi_> is there any official hardening document 12.04
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !manual|rishi_,
[10:35] <cfhowlett> rishi_, "official"?  not that I know of
[10:36] <kostkon> rishi_, documentation is here nevertheless https://help.ubuntu.com/
 thanks for the link...
[10:37] <cfhowlett> rishi_, no problem.  best of luck
[10:40] <bulletxt|2> hi there, I'de like to use fusefat without being root or using sudo. Is this possible? Thanks
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> if the user is in the fuse group - i thought they could use the various fuse tools. thats sort of the point of the fuse stuff
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> !fuse
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> but im not sure what fusefat does that the normal fat/vfat stuff dosent do
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis:  thanks but the problem is that I did put fuse in my user groups but still fusefat says permission denied
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> you did log out of the user. and reloged in?
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: I need to find a way to mount fat partitions as normal user,. any ideas?
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> yea
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> I did
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> err.. with the ntfs-confg tool it can enable where users have full access to ntfs/vfat partions. or you can put a mount entry in fstab with the 'user' (or was it users) option
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> for the specific filesystem
[10:42] <Ceraphin> Hi all
[10:42] <Ceraphin> Is there anyone with a Macbook air 4.2 (2011) with ubuntu in dual boot?
[10:42] <Ceraphin> I can succeed to install it, i really could use some help
[10:42] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: since I don't know the partition (i only know it at runtime), I cant add it to fstab
[10:43] <Ceraphin> and I don't even find any good help.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  is it an internal or excternal drive? is it the same disk/partion every time? is it usb removeable?
[10:43] <tbharath> My home directory is out of memory, I want to add memory of another drive, which has windows in it, how can we do that?
[10:44] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: its removable (its an SD)
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  you mean 'disk space'
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  a usb sd reader? or built in?>
[10:44] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, yes, with out lost of contents
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !mac|Ceraphin,
[10:44] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: usb reader yea
[10:44] <Ceraphin> Already done
[10:44] <Ceraphin> but the problem is that the installer is freezing after selecting language
[10:45] <asdfaaaa> I need help with AMD drivers 13.4 using Xubuntu 13.04, following this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  you mount the partionm to some directory and give the user permissions/chown/chmod the filesystem and the user can store stuff there. no need to  'merge' the 2 - it will appear to the user as a directory in theor home if thats how you want
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Ceraphin, so since something like 90% plus of the users in this channel are NOT Mac users ...
[10:45] <asdfaaaa> I have gotten 2 blackscreen after reboots...
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  you are using the gui at all? or need this to be all console?
[10:46] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, it is my another drive , /media/bharath/E8DC1A1EDC19E818/
[10:46] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, how I  can do that?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  and what filesystem is the drive using>
[10:46] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: console
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  i cant even find a fuse-fat package - but i am on my raspberry pi.
[10:46] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis:  its fusefat
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  but im thiniking you got somntning setup wrong. because a user is supposed to be able to  use the fuse stuff
[10:47] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, NTFS
[10:47] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: its fusefat package
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  so you want to resize it?  or just want the user to have full access to it?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> !info fusefat
[10:49] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I want my files store in another drive, from which I can exceute those files, now when I copy the executable files to another drive, it says permission denied, though I gave chmod +x to that file
[10:50] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, can we solve the solution with out resizing?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  you DONT chown/chmod ntfs/vfat -  if you need them to be executable on a vfat/ntfs then youy MUST mount the ntfs/vfat with the right options. Normally via a fstab entry in /etc/fstab
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[10:51] <Sheldoraaaa> HEY guys im looking for a distribution that run on my old eeepc
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com has several questions/answers with that question tbharath
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Sheldoraaaa:  xubuntu works well on my netbook
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Sheldoraaaa, lubuntu and xubuntu are both optimized for low spec/older devices
[10:51] <asdfaaaa> I need help with AMD drivers 13.4 using Xubuntu 13.04, following this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide
[10:51] <asdfaaaa> I have gotten 2 blackscreen after reboots...
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: which ati gpu do you have?
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  i dont see in the fusefat docs/manpage where it works for a real disk.. just image files..
[10:52] <asdfaaaa> Actionparsnip: HD 7950 (supported)
[10:52] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, http://askubuntu.com/questions/49392/how-to-mark-allow-executing-file-as-program-on-an-external-drive
[10:52] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I tried as root and it works.. in read only mode
[10:52] <asdfaaaa> The installation went good but after reboot -> Black screen
[10:52] <asdfaaaa> and CTRL-ALT-F2 dosen't work...
[10:53] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, will the third bullet point works
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  what command are you using exactly?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> asdfaaaa, now THAT makes me think you used corrupted ISO.  did you md5sum check?
[10:53] <asdfaaaa> cfhowlett: Don't except that, used wget from AMD site
[10:53] <asdfaaaa> here ->
[10:53] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, it said "possibly dangerous"
[10:53] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: fusefat -ro /dev/disk/dev/disk/by-label/MYLABEL   /media/folder
[10:54] <asdfaaaa> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  i dont put linux executables on ntfs/vfat - its just sort of silly to be storing linux binaries on vfat/ntfs
[10:54] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis:  thats because im doing with label but of course /dev/sda1 is the same thing
[10:54] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I am doing because I am out of memory
[10:54] <asdfaaaa> DR_Willis: I'm on Xubuntu now :D
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: why not use the additional drivers app in system settings?
[10:54] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, but will it work?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: I believe spatry has a video how to guide for the drivers
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  once again.. you are out of DISK SPACE...  if you were out of MEMORY then you would want a bigger swap partition
[10:55] <k1l> asdfaaaa: dont use the amd site driver. use the repo driver. that is supported in here
[10:55] <asdfaaaa> ActionParsnip: true but I wanted to learn from installation packages...
[10:55] <asdfaaaa> kll: Do you have a link, thanks
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: check out spatry's channel on youtube
[10:55] <Sheldoraaaa> Dr_willis I tried xubuntu but my sound card stopped for some reason, n I tried a few ways to fix it but still no working
[10:55] <asdfaaaa> ActionParsnip: Of couse thank you as well!
[10:56] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, sorry out of Disk space
[10:56] <k1l> asdfaaaa: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[10:56] <asdfaaaa> kll: They say third time is the shit...I Dont wanna format once again
[10:56] <asdfaaaa> :D:D:D
[10:56] <Sheldoraaaa> Dr_willis I assume its no supported
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  does any of the other fuse tools work for that user
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Sheldoraaaa:  did it work under ubuntu? did ut work for a while, then stop?
[10:56] <asdfaaaa> ActionParsnip: Checking now, love you <2
[10:57] <lenz> Hello everybody! How do I move my entire /home directory to a seperate partition?
[10:57] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: fuseiso seems to work as normal user without issues
[10:57] <k1l> asdfaaaa: what?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !home|lenz,
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> k1l: lotta love in the channel
[10:58] <Sheldoraaaa> Dr_willis yes it worked for old version of Ubuntu like 10,11 and nop no even working for a second
[10:58] <lenz> Oh wow, thanks
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  you could always alter the sudoers file to allow that user to run fusefat as root. but from all the fuse docs ive seen  in the last 10 min, all fuse enabled users should be able to use the fuse stuff
[10:58] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: yes in fact I cant understand why its not working ... :(