[00:02] <phillw> hmm, if you can mount the win partition with ubuntu, have a look around and see what is on there, defragging is always a 'hi risk' time, much as we say to back up before playing with partitions.
[00:04] <lobinho> oh, that reminds me of something I'd like to ask you guys... is there a way I could make a script for another user to execute, that would perform actions in my own account? like, I want other people to be able to run specific commands in my account when I'm not logged in, or even at home... they wouldn't be able to read or alter the script, so it doesn't matter if I have to write my password
[00:05] <canozan_> does anyone have any experince with testdisk?
[00:09] <phillw> canozan_: I don't, but this thread has a how to & is still active http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387922
[00:19] <Scunizi> canozan_: worked for me about 2 years ago.. don't remember how to use it though.
 i'm dying to say the same things tomorrow
[00:22] <Scunizi> canozan_: did you loose the partition info?  that's what happened to me.
 i'm not sure, i can see my partitions on the terminal, but their sizes have changed
[00:23] <Scunizi> canozan_: can you get at the data?
 yes, i can see my files, but i'm not sure if all of them are right there
[00:24] <Scunizi> canozan_: try copying them to a different partition on your linux side
yes, i'm getting my backup somewhere
[00:26] <Scunizi> canozan_: do you need windows? gaming, work etc? if not do you have the install cd? you could put it in a vm with virtualbox..
i need windows, at least i can reinstall it with my cd, but i want to recover it
[00:31] <Scunizi> canozan_: give that program a try.. it's sort of a last resort thing anyway.. save off all your data first
[00:32] <starcraftman> who said testdisK?
[00:34] <starcraftman> canozan_: you attempting full partition recovery or your just desperate for files? Testdisk is more for recovering an fs, photorec is whats great for files.
 i like your nick, i need windows for sc2 :) i want to recover my partitions, at least i want to be able to see them with gparted
[00:36] <starcraftman> canozan_: danke, it is a good nick. Alright then, well I will provide you with complete explanation I gave someone else, read it as general advice not exactly for you.
[00:37] <starcraftman> canozan_: http://tiny.cc/testds
[00:38] <starcraftman> canozan_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step < Might be better, more pictures, I only found it AFTER writing all that.
[00:38] <starcraftman> canozan_: before you ask, yes, took while.
[00:47] <Vantrax> holy cow batman, you werent kidding. That is a big post
[00:50] <starcraftman> Vantrax: I didn't get known for verbosity by accident :p
[00:50] <starcraftman> also, evening Vantrax.
[00:50] <starcraftman> Also also, Habs up 1 - 0 baby!!!
[00:50] <Vantrax> morning starcraftman
[00:51] <starcraftman> Vantrax: how goes?
[00:51] <lobinho> lol, I just love these international chats
[00:51] <lobinho> here in Brazil, its 20:51 right now
[00:52] <starcraftman> lobinho: hi, and yes it is worldly and amusing.
[00:53] <lobinho> which reminds us of what "Ubuntu" really means :D
[00:54] <zeroseven0183> Hi! It's 7:55AM now here in the Philippines... April 29
[01:15] <ubuntu_> hello, i have messed up everything with my partitions, can anyone help me restore my system to the previous stage, of which i have the fdisk output?
[01:20] <lobinho> does anyone know how to make a script that will execute a command in another user account? i.e. folks at home resuming my downloads after they finish their tasks, without logging in with my password...
[01:21] <Ozan> i need to manually change my partition table beceause i cannot boot into ubuntu and cannot recover grub
[01:22] <Ozan> i have all details of my previous partition table
[01:22] <Ozan> but i don't know how to force it
[01:22] <starcraftman> Ozan: Tried just using testdisk? You can just have it recreate a partition table based on existing if you like.
 testdisk has just made the thing worse, now i cannot even boot into ubuntu
[01:24] <starcraftman> Ozan: really? Sure ya did it right? Not the usual response I get.
 it has changed my partition table and now i'm unable to boot into ubuntu, and recover grub
 i used it to analyse my hard disk, it seemed to find all my partitions, but with different names (sd5 instead of sda7 for ex)
 then i wanted it to write the partition table and now i cannot boot into ubuntu
[01:26] <starcraftman> hmmm, so Ozan you want what exactly? You have your table imaged and want to restore?
[01:26] <Ozan> i cannot even mount that partition
 i don't have the image, i have fdisk output, and i want to restore to it
[01:30] <starcraftman> hmmm, well short of testdisk I'm not sure what to recommend honestly. Maybe somoene else here has a thought.
[01:30] <starcraftman> Ozan: You seen this nice guide with pictures right? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
 yes i have seen it
 i just followed it, and now i cannot even boot into ubuntu, which was installed in the partiton that i run testdisk
[01:37] <starcraftman> Ozan: aye, got ya. Hmmm. Alright, I think I got a solution.
[01:38] <starcraftman> BUT, I can't strictly vouch for it. You may want to clone absolutely what is remaining in case further deterioration.
[01:38] <starcraftman> Ozan: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/recovering.html
[01:39] <starcraftman> long process, one partition at a time.
[01:43] <Ozan> thanks a lot
[01:44] <Ozan> i think i'll give it a try
[01:44] <starcraftman> Ozan: your welcome
[01:44] <starcraftman> I'd recommend cloning the drive before starting with partimage or so though.
[01:44] <starcraftman> Best of luck.
[02:15] <lobinho> hey
[02:16] <lobinho> anyone knows how to resume transfers in Transmission BitTorrent through cli? I know transmission -p stars with everything paused, but can't it start the downloads and uploads via command line? I'd like to make a script for this...
[02:19] <lobinho> T_T gotta go, bye everyone
[02:39] <starcraftman> WE DID IT! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[02:45] <starcraftman> also if I'm not alive tomorrow, you can assume Montreal went crazy and triggered a complete meltdown, riots and was leveled.
[02:51] <nigelbabu> starcraftman: ice melted?
[02:52] <nigelbabu> anyone remembers how to connect to people.ubuntu.com?
[02:52] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: oh thats all gone, was 15C today.
[02:52] <nigelbabu> starcraftman: its 30 here :D
[02:53] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: don't remind me its still somewhat cold. Though tbh, I prefer it around 20 than overly hot. Maybe I'm a cold person.
[02:55] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom <That help, just use an sftp client.
[03:00] <nigelbabu> starcraftman: I did use it with normal client, dont remember how
[03:01] <nigelbabu> starcraftman: connet to server and select ssh
[03:01] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: I guess, haven't used the space ever, don't really need it with u1.
[03:02] <nigelbabu> starcraftman: I put stuff there when its something related to cummunity
[03:49] <nigelbabu> !ping | nigelbabu
[03:49] <Votebot> nigelbabu: nigelbabu, stop pinging already.  Hi! I got it to work!
[06:11] <pedro3005> great!
[06:11] <brackenn> Is this a place I can Get some Advice?
[06:12] <pedro3005> sure is
[06:14] <brackenn> Great. I need some help with my printer. I just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04, and i did a fresh reload of My whole op system.
[06:14] <brackenn> I can't get my printer to work.
[06:14] <kermiac> what brand printer is it brackenn?
[06:15] <brackenn> It is a Canon Pixma IP1800.
[06:16] <pedro3005> brackenn, so wait, you did a clean install?
[06:16] <brackenn> Yes. Fron a disk.
[06:16] <brackenn> er..From
[06:16] <kermiac> brackenn: from a quick search, this *may* help: http://tantos.web.id/blogs/how-to-karmic-koala-and-canon-pixma-ip1800-ip1900
[06:17] <kermiac> I have hp printers though, so I can't help too much
[06:18] <brackenn> I've been to that site, But I don't fully understand it.
[06:19] <pedro3005> brackenn, any specific question?
[06:20] <kermiac> brackenn: what part of the instructions are you having troubles with? hopefully i can help to explain it better for you :)
[06:21] <brackenn> Sure, And thanks in advance. I downloaded, and did the tar -zxvf Canon-Pixma-iP1900-iP1800-KarmicKoala.tar.gz command.
[06:21] <brackenn> which all came out on my desktop.
[06:22] <brackenn> but I can't do step 3.
[06:22] <pedro3005> if the files are already there, ignore step 3
[06:22] <brackenn>  Where would I find that directory?
[06:23] <brackenn> okay.
[06:24] <brackenn> okay, I just did steps 4 and 5...
[06:25] <brackenn> How do I do step 7. where do I find  and what is a pPD file?
[06:26] <pedro3005> brackenn, download this file http://www.mediafire.com/?mdmldyztfoh
[06:31] <kermiac> brackenn: a PostScript Printer Description (PPD) file basically just tells your O/S what your printer is capable of - fonts, paper size, resolution, etc
[06:34] <brackenn> i downloaded it, it's on my desktop, but it keeps giving me an error when i try to move it to to usr\share\ppd
[06:35] <pedro3005> brackenn, let me guess: permission error
[06:35] <brackenn> Yah. I just foud that out.
[06:36] <pedro3005> brackenn, ok, so try running this:
[06:36] <pedro3005> sudo mv ~/Desktop/canonip1900for1800.ppd /usr/share/ppd
[06:37] <brackenn> that worked...Yea!
[06:37] <pedro3005> :D
[06:38] <pedro3005> now "Then from menu System->Administration->Printing, right click on your printer, choose properties, then change your Make and Model using this new PPD file."
[06:43] <brackenn> Still won't work.
[06:44] <pedro3005> what happened?
[06:45] <brackenn> Very little. The print que says the jobs are completed, but nothing comes out of the printer. The light doesn't flash.
[06:47] <brackenn> Wait...
[06:47] <brackenn> Hold on....
[06:49] <brackenn> I think I miss-interp'ed the directions the first time, about assigning the ppd file. I think I got it working.
[06:52] <brackenn> Yah. It's working. Many thanks.
[06:53] <pedro3005> brackenn, great :)
[06:53] <brackenn> Bye.
[06:54] <loki20> trying to get my graphics faster on a Dell Mini 1010 with UNR = any suggestions
[08:52] <leoquant> !NVIDIA
[10:09] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anyone awake in here
[10:11] <kermiac> hi ZeRoDeAtH50435
[10:11] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> hey
[10:13] <kermiac> ZeRoDeAtH50435: how are you today/night?
[10:14] <pedro3005> hi everyone
[10:15] <kermiac> hi pedro3005 :)
[10:15] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I have the thing for class that I have to do tracepath time.nist.gov but at the end it says too many hops: 1492 resume: pmtu 1492 does that mean that there was to many for it to run through
[10:15] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> fine you
[10:15] <kermiac> good thanks :)
[10:17] <pedro3005> someone here good at math?
[10:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> depends
[10:18] <pedro3005> well... excuse my dumbness.. but in for instance http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/b/0/8b02df70671b7bdd99e2c96a700319be.png  , what's that weird thing that looks like an E? :P
[10:19] <pedro3005> with infinite on top
[10:20] <zeroseven0183> Sigma
[10:20] <zeroseven0183> or summation
[10:20] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> it depends on the math that you are using it for
[10:21] <pedro3005> in the example, what is it for?
[10:24] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> got me
[10:25] <pedro3005> I think it's one of these summations
[10:25] <pedro3005> I looked it up, easy enough
[10:25] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah
[10:25] <pedro3005> in the example, you'd start at minus infinite, and go all the way to infinite
[10:26] <pedro3005> substituting n on the formula that follows it
[10:26] <pedro3005> thanks! I needed a name to google it. much appreciated :D
[10:26] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah I got that
[10:40] <merman123> hey guys, does anybody know if transcend external usb hard drive has any problems with ubuntu? I'm planning to buy one
[11:00] <tykaju> merman123 i bought one and it's work correctly but you can't use sjelite software on ubuntu
[11:01] <tykaju> maybe with lucid lynx it will be possible
[11:02] <merman123> what is sjelite used for?
[11:11] <tykaju> transcend external usb hard drive come with a soft (sjelite) wich can help you to protect your data and for backups
[11:39] <Severity1> hi all
[11:56] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how do I change my logon screen
[12:47] <shahan> ubuntu release may delay
[12:48] <shahan> as some bug has been discovered at the last time...
[12:48] <shahan> may be few hours
[12:49] <shahan> but in general it will realease about GMT 3:00 PM
[12:52] <shahan> the whole community is waitting for the RELEASE of .... :-)
[16:00] <jcbv> what time is release and will compiz now work with older nvidia cards like vanta and geforc 2 gts
[16:02] <starcraftman> jcbv: I dunno exact date of release, should be later in the day think they still doing some last minute iso testing and building.
[16:03] <zeroseven0183> Almost there
[16:03] <starcraftman> jcbv: as to nvidia, depends how well nouveau works as Nvidia binaries have dropped those cards.
[16:04] <jcbv> guess im screwed dammit i need compiz on this old rig
[16:04] <jcbv> they should have let me test it i always find bugs in stuff
[16:05] <jcbv> i been tilting pinballs since 82
[16:12] <starcraftman> jcbv: you can download a testing iso and give it a whirl.
[16:12] <jcbv> wont i have to reinstall it later though
[16:12] <starcraftman> jcbv: not unless glaring gaps, you can always just run it froma  live cd and test there.
[16:13] <starcraftman> jcbv: Joing #ubuntu-testing and the isos are here > iso.qa.ubuntu.com. If you find any serious bugs report to channel/site.
[16:14] <jcbv> thanks
[16:15] <jcbv> will do
[16:15] <jcbv> cant access page
[16:17] <jcbv> yo u must play starcraft on ubuntu i might have to install it
[16:17] <jcbv> havent played it in a while im busy playing company of heros
[16:17] <jcbv> im getting sick of all this made for  vista software what a pain
[16:18] <starcraftman> jcbv: interesting site down, check back in a bit. Must be getting hammered.
[16:19] <starcraftman> jcbv: actually lil bit retired from sc atm, I'm at uni doing intensive comp sci degree. Not much time for games. When I'm not in class I'm usually teaching myself a language not in program.
[16:23] <LzrdKing> does ubuntu enterprise cloud let me use all my computers as a giant cluster?
[16:34] <meindian523> What time (UTC/otherwise) does 10.04 release?
[16:35]  * meindian523 is here at 2104 hours on Thurs, Apr 29 and still waiting
[16:36] <Akos> there is no release date
[16:36] <meindian523> *2106 hours IST
[16:36] <Akos> i mean hour :P
[16:36] <Akos> just date
[16:36] <Akos> and the CDs have been re-imaged due to a grub bug, so that's why they seem to be released later
[16:37] <meindian523> Akos, ah, but I thought someone might know.....
[16:37] <Akos> it's just 1:36 pm in the us, so they have almost one more day :P
[16:37] <meindian523> was that why they were pushed from 25th to 29th?
[16:37] <Akos> i don't think so ..
[16:37] <Akos> i dunno about that push
[16:37] <meindian523> Akos, 1336 on Apr 29th or Apr 28th?
[16:37] <Akos> 29th
[16:38] <meindian523> hmm
[16:38] <meindian523> they got something like 10 hours
[16:39] <Akos> exactly
[16:39] <meindian523> :)
[16:44]  * meindian523 waits...
[16:46] <starcraftman> meindian523: probably be quite a bit later in day. Don't sweat it.
[16:47] <meindian523> starcraftman, I won't be, I'll probably be sleeping like a baby when it does release...
[16:47] <starcraftman> meindian523: hehe
[16:47] <meindian523> starcraftman, as an aside, do the repos for dist-upgrade get updated prior to the release or later
[16:48] <meindian523> if earlier I might set the laptop to do checks every half hour or so and dist-upgrade as soon as it becomes available
[16:48] <meindian523> currently running Lucid RC on it
[16:51] <starcraftman> meindian523:  do you have to get it absolutely second it releases? :) I don't know the time dist updates.
[16:52] <meindian523> starcraftman, nah, but been using Ubuntu for 3 years now and haven't, ever, seen the release as it becomes available
[16:52] <meindian523> want to feel the anticipation at least once
[16:52] <starcraftman> meindian523: hehe, alright :)
[16:53] <meindian523> though it isn't too great, been using Lucid since beta 1
[16:53] <meindian523> so well
[16:53] <meindian523> yet....
[16:54]  * starcraftman shrugs.
[16:54] <starcraftman> It's got upgraded packages, and a few newish things.
[16:55] <starcraftman> Sometimes it really seems like we need longer releases.
[16:55] <starcraftman> cycles*
[17:03] <shahan> when will be realease
[17:03] <shahan> ?
[17:05] <shahan_> any update news about ubuntu 10.04 realease?
[17:07] <shahan_> starcraftman: ?
[17:07] <shahan_> starcraftman: hey.. do u know any update news/
[17:13] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo
[18:18]  * meindian523 checks for 10.04 release
[18:23] <starcraftman> hi bodhi_zazen
[18:23] <starcraftman> meindian523: the final seeded release is propogating now fyi.
[18:24] <meindian523> thanks starcraftman
[18:24] <starcraftman> meindian523: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/10.04/
[18:24] <starcraftman> meindian523: I know cuz I'm zsyncing my RC files. :)
[18:24] <meindian523> wow, its on the mirrors, but not on the main site
[18:25] <starcraftman> meindian523: it takes a while to propogate, I think they wait till everywhere has it before announcement
[18:25] <meindian523> starcraftman, ah
[18:26] <meindian523> starcraftman, the desktop version does fine for notebooks too, right?
[18:27] <starcraftman> meindian523: the netbook version main feature is alternate interface for smaller screens.
[18:27] <starcraftman> if it's > 1280x1024 I'd go with desktop, smaller and it might not be great.
[18:29] <meindian523> starcraftman, I meant as in optimizations, etc
[18:29] <meindian523> for battery power
[18:29] <meindian523> etc
[18:29] <meindian523> #ubuntu-release-party has gone crazy
[18:30] <starcraftman> meindian523: I'm not a labtop expert, I don't think theres any huge difference between netbook and desktop in terms of power, should use same backend.
[18:30] <meindian523> starcraftman, not netbook, notebook equal to laptop
[18:32] <starcraftman> meindian523: regardless, power back end management is same I think. Netbooks just a low power labtop. Netbook is just a gimmick word anyway.
[18:32] <bmuluu> hello
[18:32] <starcraftman> hello bmuluu
[18:32] <bmuluu> hello +starcraftman
[18:32] <meindian523> starcraftman, yeah
[18:33] <starcraftman> bmuluu: got a problem?
[18:33] <bmuluu> no problem at all
[18:34] <meindian523> starcraftman, well, as an answer to that criteria you gave, laptop is at 1400*1050
[18:34] <starcraftman> meindian523: nice big screen, stick with standard install them.
[18:36] <meindian523> starcraftman, yeah
[18:38] <starcraftman> meindian523: man release channel just buzzing.
[18:38] <starcraftman> ehehe
[18:38] <meindian523> starcraftman, release-party channel?
[18:38] <starcraftman> aye, some people get a lil too excited.
[18:39] <starcraftman> maybe they all ahead of me in the aclohol department.
[18:39] <meindian523> lol starcraftman
[18:40] <starcraftman> meindian523: I'll catch up later, I'm off to the qc loco meet up in a few hours.
[18:40]  * meindian523 wonders at the typing speed of An_Ony_Moose. (S)He got off 2 lines in a row without nobody's post in between
[18:40] <meindian523> http://paste.ubuntu.com/424721/
[18:40] <meindian523> sure starcraftman
[18:40] <meindian523> cya round
[18:40] <starcraftman> meindian523: copy paste?
[18:41] <starcraftman> meindian523: oh not leaving just yet, I meant when I go. still got 4 hours just to go downtown, its not that far.
[18:41] <meindian523> starcraftman, possibly, still quite fast, to middle click and press enter
[18:43] <meindian523> starcraftman, ah
[18:44] <shahan> something change in ubuntu site
[18:44] <shahan> the counter vanished
[18:44] <shahan> below of the site
[18:44] <shahan> !!!
[18:44]  * meindian523 checks own blog
[18:48] <starcraftman> bah, blogs!!!
[18:48] <meindian523> starcraftman, yup, the Available Soon hasn't changed yet
[18:49] <starcraftman> meindian523: hmm? Ubuntu.com is updated now
[18:49] <meindian523> starcraftman, nah, I meant the countdown thingie
[18:50] <starcraftman> oh alright. Takes a lil bit I suppose.
[18:51] <shahan> yes.... I am going to download
[18:51] <shahan> what is the best procedure of downloading?
[18:51] <shahan> torrent or direct?
[18:51] <meindian523> shahan, torrent
[18:51] <shahan> which one will be best
[18:51] <meindian523> shahan, torrent
[18:52] <shahan> meindian523: will I get better speed on torrent?
[18:52] <meindian523> shahan, yup
[18:52] <meindian523> if something 3MB/s from one seed sounds good enough to you
[18:52] <shahan> meindian523: will I dowonload it right now?
[18:52] <meindian523> shahan, that depends on you doesn't it??
[18:52] <shahan> meindian523: yes
[18:52] <shahan> meindian523: tnx
[18:52]  * meindian523 will wait another half an hour
[18:53] <shahan> meindian523: why?
[18:53] <meindian523> shahan, my ISP allows me free download between 0000 and 0800 hours
[18:53] <shahan> meindian523: ok...
[18:53] <shahan> meindian523: hmm
[18:54] <shahan> meindian523: I am going to download
[18:54] <meindian523> sure
[19:00] <shahan> meindian523: NOT GETTING BETTERSPEED ON TORRENT
[19:01] <shahan> not getting speed on torrent
[19:02] <meindian523> shahan, what speeds are you getting?
[19:02] <shahan> going to download it direct
[19:02] <shahan> meindian523: only 5-6 KBps
[19:02] <meindian523> shahan, hmm
[19:03] <meindian523> shahan, wait a min
[19:03] <meindian523> more speed coming in
[19:03] <shahan> meindian523: how speed will come
[19:03] <meindian523> shahan, people with dedicated computers seeding
[19:04] <shahan> meindian523: how long I should wait for?
[19:04] <meindian523> shahan, 10 mins prolly
[19:05] <shahan> meindian523: r u indian?
[19:05] <meindian523> shahan, yep
[19:05] <shahan> kahase ho?
[19:05] <shahan> meindian523: kahase ho?
[19:05] <meindian523> shahan, Bambai
[19:05] <shahan> meindian523: hmm
[19:05] <meindian523> shahan, yourself?
[19:06] <shahan> meindian523: BANGLADESH
[19:06] <shahan> meindian523: DHAKA
[19:06] <meindian523> shahan, hmm
[19:06] <meindian523> shahan, what speeds now?
[19:06] <shahan> let me download now
[19:06] <shahan> meindian523: I have sotpped it
[19:06] <shahan> meindian523: haha
[19:06] <meindian523> try torrent first
[19:08] <shahan> meindian523: not good
[19:08] <meindian523> shahan, what exactly
[19:08] <meindian523> ?
[19:08] <shahan> meindian523: about 10
[19:08] <shahan> meindian523: 10 KBps
[19:08] <meindian523> and what's the max bandwidth your ISP gives you?
[19:09] <shahan> meindian523: I didnt tried with torrent befoe with my new ISP
[19:09] <shahan> meindian523: but I download directly about 50 KBps
[19:09] <meindian523> shahan, hmm
[19:09] <shahan> meindian523: now its 3-4 KBps
[19:09] <shahan> me :(
[19:10] <meindian523> shahan, patience, people are in a hurry to install asap
[19:10] <shahan> meindian523: asap?
[19:10] <meindian523> shahan, as soon as possible
[19:11] <shahan> meindian523: coming back soon
[19:11] <shahan> bey
[19:12] <meindian523> ok
[19:12] <znxtch> Does anyone play any games on Ubuntu?
[19:12] <znxtch> I'm bored and I'm looking for a game suggestion.  Something I could download from the Download Center. . .that doesn't suck.
[19:12] <starcraftman> znxtch: teeworlds!
[19:13] <starcraftman> znxtch: luk loves that game, addict.
[19:13] <meindian523> starcraftman, what kind really?
[19:13] <meindian523> strategy, FPS, what
[19:13] <meindian523> why isn't CK here?
[19:13] <znxtch> looks like a 2d shooter
[19:13] <znxtch> multiplayer
[19:13] <znxtch> sort of like SOLDAT but more cartoony
[19:14] <starcraftman> znxtch: indeed, cool game.
[19:14] <starcraftman> the good ol days of soldat in the highscool and college labs
[19:14] <znxtch> lol
[19:14] <znxtch> I like ARC too
[19:14] <znxtch> did you ever play that?
[19:20] <meindian523> shahan, what about now? On torrent?
[19:20] <shahan> meindian523: 20KBps
[19:20] <shahan> meindian523: going to be good
[19:20] <meindian523> cool, keep it, don't go for the http
[19:20] <meindian523> http rates will be unpredictable
[19:27] <starcraftman> meindian523: just gotta pick a good less known server :)
[19:27] <meindian523> starcraftman, hmm, but I'm die hard torrent fan
[19:28] <meindian523> suffered enough bad ISOs
[19:28] <starcraftman> hehehe
[19:28] <starcraftman> meindian523: you know you can use the DTA extension with an sha256 hash.
[19:29] <meindian523> starcraftman, yeah, but I don't think its gonna make much difference to me
[19:29] <meindian523> my pipe is 512kbps
[19:29] <starcraftman> meindian523: I feel your pain, slow dsl line here too.
[19:29] <meindian523> and yeah, thats 512kilobits/sec
[19:30]  * meindian523 is going offline, be back in a few mins, need to start off with my free unlimited d/l period
[19:51] <javatexan> can you run document viewer from the terminal: docview something.ps?
[20:39] <starcraftman> later team, times for party :)
[21:17] <simar> hi all
[22:30] <maddeth> hi all
[22:33] <pedro3005> hi
[22:50] <geirha> A bit disappointing that Ubuntu manual.
[22:50] <maddeth> ubuntu manual?
[22:50] <geirha> http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[22:53] <geirha> Hm. Ok, maybe not that bad. I spotted an error perusing the command line chapter, but that seems to be it.
[22:59] <geirha> And it's not written in stone. I can report it at lp :)
[23:00] <pedro3005> Yet another ubuntu manual?
[23:03] <geirha> It seems quite comprehensive, and can be bought as a real book made with that white stuff ... what's it called again?
[23:03] <geirha> paper
[23:09] <maddeth> :) geirha
[23:10] <maddeth> I always prefer reading a real book
[23:10] <pedro3005> +1
[23:10] <pedro3005> but I never seem to have patience to read computer books
[23:10] <pedro3005> don't know why
[23:10] <maddeth> when your in work writing/reading documetns, the last thing you want to do is read more crap on the computer at home
[23:11] <maddeth> pedro3005, I read a lot of fiction
[23:11] <maddeth> but just bought a computer book now
[23:12] <pedro3005> yeah, I got "The C Programming Language" by Ritchie and Kernighan, need to pay more attention to it
[23:12] <maddeth> Not much of a programmer myself
[23:12] <maddeth> though I want to learn a bit more about machine code
[23:13] <pedro3005> not a programmer either - but I'm trying to be one ;)
[23:13] <maddeth> meh, dont want to be a coding monkey
[23:13] <maddeth> talking of which, you about tronyx ?
[23:15] <maddeth> take that as a no
[23:16] <pedro3005> machine code? you mean 0's and 1's? :P
[23:16] <maddeth> AND OR XOR
[23:16] <maddeth> Hex ;)
[23:16] <maddeth> not binary


[11:49] <tjaalton> tseliot: when nvidia releases drivers that can do driver abi for 1.19, feel free to add the Provides to zesty, debian is transitioning now, hope we could do that before xmas or shortly after
[11:51] <tseliot> tjaalton: there seems to be one (375.20). It says "Added support for X.Org xserver ABI 23 (xorg-server 1.19)"
[11:52] <tjaalton> yeah, are 304 and 340 the other two branches still alive?
[11:53] <tseliot> alive, yes, updated for the new X, not yet
[11:54] <tseliot> also I'll be off starting from December 8
[11:54] <tseliot> (till January)
[11:55] <tjaalton> ah
[11:55] <tjaalton> ok, well xmir isn't ported yet either, so let's have another look next year :)
[11:56] <tjaalton> I should take paternity leave at some point..
[11:57] <tseliot> oh, ok
[12:24] <mamarley> 375.20 is also afflicted with a rather severe bug the breaks many games and also breaks the KDE lockscreen (again, but in a different manner than 375.10 broke it).
[12:24] <mamarley> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/977518/linux/problems-with-multiple-opengl-applications-running-simultaneously-with-375-20-on-a-gtx970
[12:35] <ricotz> tseliot, better keep it to 367 as newest series
[12:36] <tseliot> ricotz, mamarley: oh, I had no idea. Hopefully things will be fixed next year
[12:36] <mamarley> I hope it doesn't take them that long to fix it…
[12:37] <tseliot> also, I fixed up 367 for linux 4.9, but 340 is kind of hard to debug, as I can't get to the console, and I can't get the errors in the logs
[12:38] <mamarley> Yeah, same problem I had.


[12:08] <robertj> is anyone else bugged by the new folder icon in Tangerine?
[12:08] <robertj> I've come to realize that orange is just not me, and that's okay, and that other people will like it, but that icon irks me to no end
[12:30] <robertj> are there any good tools for adding stickies & cutting / appending Desktop Recorder .gifs?
[12:37] <Burgundavia> robertj: use bynaz to record them and then edit them with the gimp
[12:39] <robertj> Burgundavia: Gimp is kinda awkward
[12:40] <robertj> not having a timeline slider is kinda argh
[02:24] <LaserJock> anybody alive over here? :-)
[02:28] <Kaiser_Away> !
[02:29] <LaserJock> hi Kaiser_Away
[02:29] <Kaiser_Away> hi LaserJock. hows it going
[02:29] <LaserJock> good
[02:29] <LaserJock> trying to get some doc work done
[02:29] <LaserJock> and you?
[02:30] <Kaiser_Away> trying to get a few pages further into my c++ book :/, witha view to ultimately knowing what i need to do
[02:32] <LaserJock> I'm not much of a programmer. I've done a little C, Fortran and Python, but I've never done any C++
[02:36] <Kaiser_Away> heh. i had someone call it MicroSoft's language because it's what they primarly use
[02:37] <LaserJock> doesn't KDE use C++?
[02:38] <LaserJock> I didn't realize MS did C++, no wonder it is so popular.
[02:38] <Kaiser_Away> um. not sure. QT is C bastardised
[02:38] <LaserJock> hmm, seemed like either Gnome or KDE was C++ and the other was C
[02:39] <Kaiser_Away> I'm fairly sure Gnome is C, so maybe KDE is C++
[02:40] <Kaiser_Away> I'm sure NT5 and 9x are in C++, not sure about 3.x or nt4 (bu i gues C== ther as well)
[02:40] <Kaiser_Away> *C++
[02:42] <LaserJock> interesting
[02:42] <LaserJock> what about C# ?
[02:42] <Kaiser_Away> come to think about tit, i hav ethe complete C++ reference for win 3.1 at home.
[02:42] <LaserJock> really?
[02:43] <LaserJock> I didn't think it was that old
[02:43] <Kaiser_Away> c# wont come into it untill vista i expect, but there's some in xpsp2 IIRC (but don't quote me)
[02:45] <Kaiser_Away> "this version of C is commonly reffered to as C89, and it is the foundation apon which C++ is built."
[02:46] <Kaiser_Away> but i cant see anything about C++ offical release
[02:46] <LaserJock> interesting
[02:47] <Kaiser_Away> on the subject of C++ -
[02:47] <Kaiser_Away> "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone." --Bjarne Stroustrup (originator of C++ programming language)
[04:48] <robotgeek> hey robitaille
[04:52] <robitaille> Good evening robotgeek
[04:54] <LaserJock> hi robitaille and robotgeek
[04:54] <robotgeek> hey LaserJock
[05:32] <Kaiser_Away> hi
[09:12] <mdke> morning
[09:13] <Burgundavia> salut mdke
[09:13] <manicka> howdy mdke
[09:29] <Burgundavia> can I get feedback on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/Desktop
[09:36] <robotgeek> Your music and video, all the time << Rhythmbox?
[09:36] <Burgundavia> and totem
[09:37] <Burgundavia> that section needs bulking up
[09:37] <robotgeek> i got confused. since i don't use ubuntu, i tht now there is a "combined" player
[09:37] <Burgundavia> totem is a movie player
[09:37] <Burgundavia> rb is itunes
[09:47] <robotgeek> kk
[11:05] <LaserJock> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[11:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi LaserJock


 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=969245
 Now that we are past Debian Import Freeze expect a LP bug for requestsync to be opened.
[22:18] <valorie> @tzSwirlz -- shouldn't this be shared with #ubuntu-release
[22:18] <valorie> they control syncing, yes?
[22:29] <oerheks> really, mint issue? for cinnamon only available in groovvy?
 is part of ucr testing (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <valorie> @tzSwirlz -- shouldn't this be shared with #ubuntu-release)
 its upstream, still applies (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <oerheks> really, mint issue? for cinnamon only available in groovvy?)
 there are going to be hundreds of bugs that are going to be found and resolved between now and release ... they don't need to be listed here.  Remember this group is here to coordinate testing activities.