[01:46] <oursland> Any chance to get the mainline-kernel PPA's build scripts to generate the linux-tools-$ver.deb and linux-cloud-tools-$ver.deb?
[08:15] <apw> oursland, that is tricky, well cirtainly not possible for non-x86, maybe possible there
[15:26] <oSoMoN> is there an upcoming fix for bug #1699772 ? I see that this was fixed in debian kernel 4.14.2-1 (according to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865303), and I tested 4.14.15 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.14.15/ but the problem persists
[16:12] <jsalisbury> oSoMoN, Does that bug still exist on Artful?
[16:13] <oSoMoN> jsalisbury, I don't know, I tested on bionic only
[16:14] <oSoMoN> is there a chance it's fixed on artful?
[16:14] <jsalisbury> oSoMoN, ok, but it does exist on Bionic?  If so, I'll dig into it shortly
[16:14] <oSoMoN> yes, it definitely exists on bionic
[16:14] <jsalisbury> oSoMoN, probably not.  If it exists on Bionic, it is in Artful
[16:14] <oSoMoN> I can repro when running libreoffice autopkgtests
[16:15] <oSoMoN> or when creating a new database with libreoffice-base
[16:15] <jsalisbury> oSoMoN, Ok, I'll take a look at the bug in just a bi
[16:15] <jsalisbury> bit
[16:15] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[16:15] <jsalisbury> np
[16:24] <oursland> Okay, second question.  Running "fakeroot debian/rules clean" then "fakeroot debian/rules binary" on an unmodified v4.14.15 (possibly other versions) fails to complete building claiming that SPL and ZFS require a fully built kernel first.  Is there a suggested way to build the kernel, headers, and tools from source that won't fail?
[17:09] <oursland> And third question.  Even though there's a build failure, several .deb files are generated, including the tools.  When installed, they do not go to /usr/lib/linux-tools/4.14.15-041415-generic where linux-tools-common expects them, but rather to /usr/lib/linux-tools-4.14.15-041415.  Is this an error?


[20:57] <erUSUL> amir_: use testdisk or gpart ?
[20:57] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | amir_
[20:57] <DasEi> amir_: not that I knew, it's all mbr
[20:58] <DasEi> erUSUL: did, after mbr was wiped, now lvm is gone, having 3 partis just now
[20:58] <ceo_> how to i remove all plugin or add on webserver on ubuntu 10.10 am need reinstall it,
[20:58] <amir_> done that with testdisk, however partition numbers are recovered wrongly
[20:58] <erUSUL> DasEi: oops... lvm
[20:58] <amir_> what remains is primary partitions instead of logical partitions
[20:58] <cpatrick08> @federl how much are you willing to pay for the laptop
[20:59] <ceo_> am need reinstall webserver on ubuntu 10.10 need you ide, so many error, am can't used well my /var/www/
[20:59] <DasEi> amir_: backup and reinstall
[20:59] <ceo_> please help
[20:59] <erUSUL> no experience with that one... and data recovery is the main reason i do not use lvm or encryption... it makes everything harder
[20:59] <amir_> does the partition table remain in memory?
[20:59] <DasEi> amir_: nope
[20:59] <bada>  hi! special keys and suspend on lid close stopped to work some time ago on my thinkpad edge 14. I cannot get it back.
[20:59] <DasEi> amir_: we can try to fix your fstab
[21:00] <fderl> cpatrick08: enough, could go up towards the price of the smallest macbook, but cheaper is better
[21:00] <cpatrick08> @fderl i found a 15.6" laptop for $399 at http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
[21:00] <cpatrick08> or up to 15.6"
[21:00] <amir_> this is the output i get from /proc/partition:    8        0  312571224 sda |    8        3  202354688 sda3 |   8        5   15350076 sda5 |   8        6   38909398 sda6 |   8        7    4747176 sda7
[21:00] <DasEi> amir_: but really, I'd feel better if you shrink (space?) your root and have a sda4 for data, then reinstall
[21:01] <amir_> that is the setup i have
[21:01] <amir_> sda1 - windows
[21:01] <fderl> cpatrick08: appriciate it, but i was more asking about laptops that people in this channel had first hand experience with, i need to keep it for 2 more years of school so i dont want to risk anything :p
[21:01] <amir_> sda2 extended
[21:01] <cpatrick08> ok yw
[21:01] <DasEi> amir_: df -h , how much free space, arrgn, windows on it, too
[21:01] <amir_> sda3 - root, sda4 - data, sda5 - ntfs
[21:01] <swim> howdy folks.  Can anybody please remind me where I can change my startup settings so that I can choose which which desktop environment to load during startup??
[21:01] <fderl> at the log in scree
[21:02] <fderl> screen*
[21:02] <_Alex__> swim: Login screen
[21:02] <DasEi> amir_: you said you only have 3 partis now, after testdisk ?!
[21:02] <oussama> hi
[21:02] <russjr08> Hey guys, I want to install Ubuntu but Windows won't let me shrink more than 150mbs of space. If I use GParted to resize Windows 7, will it mess up Windows 7?
[21:02] <swim> fderl it just boots directly to xfce..  last time i installed xfce i had to specify somewhere in the settings to show options in the boot screen
[21:03] <swim> or splash screen, w/e it is called
[21:03] <amir_> that's right only 3 primary partitions
[21:03] <fderl> swim: when you choose your user, there should be a little ribbon on the bottom where you can pick the session you want
[21:03] <cpatrick08> @fderl my dell inspiron 1525 works great with ubuntu but it comes with broadcom wireless though
[21:03] <_Alex__> russjr08: Defrag the stupid OS's Disc
[21:03] <DasEi> amir_: is the ntfs still there and accessible ?
[21:03] <swim> fderl, yeah, i'm looking for the setting that allows that..
[21:03] <russjr08> _Alex__, I already did
[21:03] <amir_> sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 sda7 > sda3
[21:03] <_Alex__> Strange
[21:03] <cfc> yo everyone
[21:04] <amir_> my data partition is still accesible
[21:04] <fderl> cpatrick08: is it alot of hassle getting it working?
[21:04] <cfc> anyone that can tell me how to get a mic to work?
[21:04] <fderl> swim: what distro are you using?
[21:04] <J697> Is Ubuntu 11.04 good enough to upgrade to?
[21:04] <swim> fderl ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[21:04] <ceo_> how to i remove all plugin or add on webserver on ubuntu 10.10 am need reinstall it,
[21:04] <dsnyders> Hi all.    Is there such a command?
[21:04] <fderl> swim: cant you choose anything at the login screen?, like language etc?
[21:04] <DasEi> J697: #ubuntu+1, ask there
[21:04] <russjr08> I really want to install Ubuntu, but I guess I'm stuck
[21:05] <_Alex__> russjr08: Delete the retards'os
[21:05] <swim> fderl nope.  before i've had to drill down into some settings menus to specify to include the options menu
[21:05] <cfc> my microphone thats built in refuses to work on ubuntu
[21:05] <russjr08> _Alex__, I don't want to though
[21:06] <swim> and i've totally forgotten what it was and can't seem to find it on the net
[21:06] <_Alex__> Just back up your data on a USB-stick and delete windows
[21:06] <r3m> russjr08, use virtualbox
[21:06] <fderl> swim: try this now, log out, click your username and thoroughly inspect the bottom of the screen
[21:06] <fderl> swim: important to click the username
[21:06] <amir_> i had sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 sda7 > sda3 | now in testdisk i get /dev/sda1`(which was sda5 [root]) /dev/sda2 (which was sda7 [swap]), /dev/sda3 (still is same [ntfs])
[21:06] <russjr08> r3m, it would be better for me to dualboot
[21:06] <DasEi> amir_: if you wonder about rebooting, open /etc/fstab, run sudo blkid in terminal and compare the numbers, fstab can still work with identifiers (aka /dev/sda1), too
[21:06] <_Alex__> russjr08 Or VmWare Player
[21:06] <r3m> russjr08, use WUBI
[21:07] <russjr08> r3m, I will be installing 11.04 and they don't suggest using WUBI
[21:07] <_Alex__> Yes, russjr08, Wubi is the most inteligent way to go
[21:07] <swim> fderl, i've done that twice, i don't get a login screen with xfce for some reason, the first screen i get is login keyring, after sfce has already loaded...  but okay..  i'll do it again..
[21:07] <DasEi> russjr08: mind joining #windows ?
[21:07] <amir_> doing that now
[21:07] <judget> Prolly a silly question but after adding a second processor is there anything I should do to take advantage of this as far as ubuntu server 8.04 or will it just see the second processor and take advantage of it?
[21:08] <cpatrick08> no they put it in the the wireless drivers in newer kernels so it works better now
[21:08]  * DasEi brb
[21:08] <russjr08> DasEi why?
[21:08] <fderl> swim: then you must have done something custom to GDM
[21:08] <bilig> hello, i had a problem after runing ubuntu live cd on my pc, now windows 7 says the ethernet cable is not connected
[21:09] <r3m> using wubi is maybe not as stable as real linux file system but its better than nothing
[21:09] <ceo_> oh sit
[21:09] <judget> in winblows the easiset thing todo is to goto device manager and remove and let windows re install it
[21:09] <fderl> bilig: have you checked the cable?
[21:09] <ceo_> am need re install webserver how do i
[21:09] <ceo_> am need re install webserver how do i
[21:09] <_Alex__> !windows | bilig
[21:09] <bilig> fderl, yes i have checked the cable with another computer and it works properly
[21:09] <cpatrick08> @fderl no they put it in the the wireless drivers in newer kernels so it works better now
[21:10] <judget> bilig look at the device in device manager
[21:10] <judget> so anyway does anyone know if the linux kernel will discover and make use of the second processor
[21:10] <fderl> cpatrick08: cool, how is the batterylife?
[21:10] <llutz> judget: it will
[21:10] <slim_> hello all, what is needed to join ubuntu desktop to windows AD domain ?
[21:11] <erUSUL> !samba | slim_
[21:11] <judget> thank u llutz I am recycling some old servers for my students to use
[21:11] <Sub_Zero> When I insert the headphones into the Laptop with Ubuntu the sound automaticly only comes out for the headphones. On my Desktop PC though when there inserted the sound still comes through the speakers as well.
[21:11] <ceo_> am need re install webserver how do i
[21:11] <judget> it is amazing what corporate america will toss out that can still be put to good use
[21:11] <slim_> thanks erUSUL
[21:11] <fderl> Sub_Zero: so ubuntu does it better :)
[21:12] <cfc> seems no one is able to help me in any chat...
[21:12] <_Alex__> Sub_Zero: That means your Laptop works properly
[21:12] <Sub_Zero> fderl: They both run Ubuntu 10.10
[21:12] <bilig> judget, i have gone to device manager and everything is correct..
[21:12] <DasEi> amir_: getting by ?
[21:12] <judget> ceo sudo apt get remove apache2 then reboot and sudo apt-get install apache2
[21:12] <judget> bilig remove the device and let winblows find it and install it again
[21:12] <_Alex__> judget: apt-get purge apache2 works better
[21:12] <erUSUL> Sub_Zero: try with newer drivers? « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-$(lsb_release -cs)-generic »
[21:13] <cpatrick08> @ fderl with the 6 cell 2hr 53min but you can get a 9-cell battery for extended battery life if needed the orgional 6 cell battery lasted me 2 yrs before i got a 9 cell battery from amazon for less than $50
[21:13] <fderl> bilig: have you checked that the cable is properly plugged into the router and the pc?
[21:13] <bilig> judget, what device? the cable? or the ethernet card, because it is integrated to the motherboard
[21:13] <erUSUL> judget: ceo_ _Alex__ afaik the conf files are in apache2-common that's the package you want to purge
[21:13] <judget> good suggestion _Alex yes that will complete;ly remove including configs I believe. Maybe though he may want to keep his configs?
[21:13] <bilig> fderl, yes many times, i even have connected another computer to it and connection is ok
[21:14] <judget> biliog the ethernet card there is no device for the cable
[21:14] <fderl> cpatrick08: can i have the modelname again please, the chat is too fast :p
[21:14] <judget> it prolly got windows - stupid
[21:14] <fderl> bilig: sounds weird, highly unlikely that this is the fault of the livecd tho
[21:15] <bilig> judget, the ethernet card is integrated to the motherboard, i dont know if it is possible to unplug
[21:15] <cpatrick08> dell inspiron 1525
[21:15] <fderl> bilig: you can select remove device in device manager
[21:15] <cognac-gamma> hi anyone could help with a wireless issue?  stack with http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[21:15] <judget> bilig it is still a device if you remove from control panel then winblows will find again and reinstall it
[21:15] <cpatrick08> @fderl here is a review on the laptop http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4175
[21:15] <fderl> bilig: computer-->Manage-->Devices
[21:15] <fderl> cpatrick08: thanks :)
[21:15] <judget> i agree very unlikely to be caused by running the live CD
[21:15] <bilig> bilig, yes i have already done that, it has reinstalled it but still
[21:16] <cpatrick08> yw
[21:16] <fderl> did you put it on static ip or something like that ?
[21:16] <bilig> fderl, yes i have already done that, it has reinstalled it but still
[21:16] <cognac-gamma> nope
[21:17] <fderl> bilig: you put it on static ip=
[21:17] <fderl> ?
[21:17] <judget> bilig if u run the live cd does the ethernet card work?
[21:17] <bilig> fdrel, no i changed nothing
[21:17] <ceo_> erUSUL, how do? please step by step
[21:18] <judget> bilig does the link light work on the card and or on the other end of the connection?
[21:18] <bilig> judget, it only works on the pc card end
[21:18] <bilig> judget, not in the modem
[21:18] <judget> bilig try another port on your switch
[21:19] <bilig> judget, i've tried that, and still
[21:19] <judget> bilig is the pc connected directly to the modem or do u have a router / switch
[21:19] <bilig> judget, i connected another computer to the cable and it works, so it does not look like a modem problem
[21:19] <wingnut2626> good day people!
[21:20] <wingnut2626> i have a question concerning sound compatibility in 10.10 on a lapto
[21:20] <wingnut2626> p
[21:20] <cg2916> i installed xubuntu and it won't let me log in
[21:20] <bilig> judget, i have a router, sorry i used modem and router interchangeably
[21:20] <vlt> Hello. I installed hugin but when I start it I get a "memory access error" after closing the tip of the day popup. How to make it work?
[21:21] <DasEi> !clone > amir_
[21:21] <drmorphias> can someone help me? im trying to run update manager and it says "Requires installation of untrusted packages".  IT doesn't let me update.
[21:22] <drmorphias> how do i get it to let me update?
[21:22] <eGe> join #irssi
[21:23] <yeats> !pass | cg2916
[21:23] <wingnut2626> my ubuntu does not recognize sound within the GUI and it will not play songs or any sounds.  However when i use an external application (i.e. flash),  it plays perfectly fine.  there is no volume control in the top control panel.  I have pulse audio equilizer still installed which i have tried to remove with no success.  how can i remove it and get my sound control back?
[21:23] <SnowmanX11> Anybody could tell me how to download viedos from Sony Handycam to Ubuntu machine?
[21:23] <cg2916> yeats: it's not that, i type it in, it goes black for 10 seconds, then kicks me out to the login screen
[21:24] <amir_> that means i will have to download everything again?
[21:25] <Gulfstream> is there a way to install fonts, such as 'Times New Roman', in Ubuntu?
[21:25] <llutz> Gulfstream: apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> Gulfstream:  tons of fonts in the repositories.  in addation to the mscore ones.
[21:26] <DasEi> !who | amir_
[21:26] <xangua> !panels | wingnut2626
[21:26] <fxhp_> I have an application Id like to start at system boot
[21:26] <Gulfstream> llutz: It appears that I have already installed that
[21:26] <wingnut2626> will that restore my sound?
[21:26] <fxhp_> The script is working, but the application starts as root
[21:27] <fxhp_> Any suggestions?
[21:27] <klister> is there any way to resize a parition without it taking forever to complete_
[21:27] <klister> ?*
[21:27] <DasEi> klister: depends on the size
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> fxhp_:  whats the app and how are you starting it?
[21:27] <tehnef> klister: depends on where it is on disk, where the data is on the partition, and where you want to move it
[21:27] <wingnut2626> ok that didnt fix my problem its a software conflict
[21:27] <fxhp_> Dr_Willis: teamspeak server
[21:27] <klister> its 227 GB, there is 11 GB on it.
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> fxhp_:  if you are stating it from rc.local use the su command to run it as a user
[21:28] <klister> its the whole disk
[21:28] <JuJuBee> I need a substitute for the photo editing software that comes with HP printer.  Im looking for something with templates etc...
[21:28] <DasEi> klister: it's formatinng, the bigger, the longer, and specs of box n drive, oc
[21:28] <fxhp_> Dr_Willis: I'll give that a go
[21:28] <DasEi> formatiing*
[21:29] <DasEi> tz
[21:29] <amir_> !DasEi thanks for your help, sorry i'm new in irc
[21:29] <klister> i want to make it a bit smaller. i tried it with gparted and it ran for like 1 hour without any progress at all
[21:29] <DasEi> amir_: cloning wil re-install your upfreshed sys, faster than remastersys
[21:29] <klister> i looked in the forums and people reported that it could take 60 hours+
[21:29] <DasEi> amir_: no problem, the ! triggers the bot, look :
[21:29] <DasEi> !brain
[21:30] <ibm>  b
[21:30] <elot> hi i have ubuntu 10.10 64bit and system cannot suspend or hibernate all buttons for that disappear and i i press some hot key or close display it show window with text "Cannot suspend" please help i can't found nothing on the internet
[21:30] <DasEi> ro -bot, channel
[21:30] <ibm> bonjours
[21:30] <amir_> DasEi : i just have remastersys installed, what do you recommend for cloning: clonezilla?
[21:30] <DasEi> !clone
[21:31] <DasEi> amir_: I already send you a pm on your pm, general ask for pm, often ones chats few persons, then pm interrupts
[21:31] <vhd> how to revert back to firefox 3.6?
[21:32] <DasEi> vhd: remove 4, install 3
[21:32] <DasEi> vhd: synaptic
[21:32] <vhd> DasEi, cool
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> vhd:  use the package manager system, and ppa-purge if you used a ppa
[21:33] <DasEi> !pm | amir_
[21:33] <fxhp_> Dr_Willis: rc.local is for multiuserq
[21:33] <elot> any ideas?
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> fxhp_:  hmm? rc.local is ran by the system at the end of the normal boot process...
[21:34] <DasEi> elot: about what ?
[21:34] <amir_> DasEi : that suggestion would mean downloading every package again, i just don't have the bandwidth to do so. the time it takes to build an iso would be an order or magnitude faster than downloading
[21:34] <elot> DasEi: i have ubuntu 10.10 64bit and system cannot suspend or hibernate all buttons for that disappear and i i press some hot key or close display it show window with text "Cannot suspend" please help i can't found nothing on the internet
[21:35] <Packrat_Mobile> thanks guys, software raid did the trick
[21:35] <DasEi> amir_: ah, I see, then go that way
[21:35] <DasEi> !yay | Packrat_Mobile
[21:35] <Packrat_Mobile> rofl. nice
[21:35] <Packrat_Mobile> now. anyone got a power strip i can have? :-D
[21:35] <amir_> DasEi : thanks for your understanding, patience and advice
[21:35] <DasEi> elot: open a terminal ..
[21:36] <Packrat_Mobile> jk
[21:36] <demonspork> I have 3x 1TB hard drives.  What would happen if I added 3x 1.5TB hard drives and set them up in RAID5 with LVM?  Would I lose the extra .5GB per drive or would I be able to get that extra space
[21:36] <elot> DasEi: and?
[21:36] <dsnyders> Hi all.    Is there such a command?
[21:36] <DasEi> elot: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> dsnyders:  write a script would be the linux way. :)
[21:36] <DasEi> elot: give resulting url here
[21:37] <DasEi> dsnyders: lazy way ? enumber, move to folder, open folder with vlc ;-)
[21:38] <dsnyders> Dr_Willis, I kind of thought it would take a script.
[21:38] <dsnyders> DasEi, enumber?
[21:39] <DasEi> dsnyders: give them numbers ascending in your desired line to listen
[21:39] <dsnyders> DasEi, They are sequentially numbered.
[21:39] <DasEi> dsnyders: help my speech, give them numbers, ah fine then
[21:40] <elot> DasEi: terminal write this
413 Request Entity Too Large</title>
[21:40] <elot>
413 Request Entity Too Large

[21:40] <DasEi> open folder with vlc, there you are
[21:40] <FloodBot1> elot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.

[21:40] <xapel> Does Facebook still work with gwibber?
[21:40] <DasEi> elot: thats part of a html file, url from terminal ?
[21:40] <jpvoip> Hello, im using 10.10 updated, and since yesterday i cant access one specific site at IP <IP_ADDRESS>. If I try to access it from another PC in the same wireless network it works. Only from my ubuntu computer isnt access, even if i try inside a winxp at virtuabox using ubuntu as host. Any dea?
[21:40] <dsnyders> DasEi, the problem is between one week and another I often forget which file is next.
[21:41] <DJones> xapel: Yes it does
[21:41] <txh> hello, can the application that allows installation of windows type drivers be used on other linux types debian, or gentoo?
[21:41] <elot> DasEi: here is no url
[21:41] <dsnyders> jpvoip, can you ping the site?
[21:41] <DasEi> elot: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[21:41] <jpvoip> dsnyders: no
[21:41] <Leif> So, today's updates have caused my computer to not have any gnome bars, or the top of window bar...help?
[21:42] <dsnyders> jpvoip, can you ping other sites?
[21:42] <Leif> (Obviously I have access to the terminal ect.)
[21:42] <jpvoip> dsnyders:  yes... everything is working OK
[21:42] <eoss> how do i become a pro
[21:42] <DasEi> dsnyders: check vlc's history,
[21:42] <xangua> !panels | Leif
[21:42] <eoss> quick
[21:42] <xangua> eoss: study a lot
[21:42] <jpvoip> dsnyders: and i can access this site from another windows PC in the same network
[21:43] <jpvoip> dsnyders:  this problem started after my last update
[21:43] <dsnyders> DasEi, I'm using mplayer
[21:43] <Leif> xangua, It said: leif@leif-VPCEB11FM:~$ gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[21:43] <Leif> gnome-panel: no process found
[21:43] <sixofour11> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 and when I go to boot my computer it says "Gave up waiting for root device" and puts me at a shell.
[21:43] <jpvoip> dsnyders: maybe check last update.. and do a rollover... is possible
[21:43] <xangua> Leif: so you uninstalled gnome-panel
[21:43] <jpvoip> ?
[21:43] <Leif> xangua, Not intentionally...
[21:44] <Leif> xangua, It didn't happen until I updated this morning (and rebooted). :(
[21:44] <Leif> anyway, I'm apt-getting it now...thanks
[21:44] <exs> hi
[21:44] <elot> DasEi: sill no URL just that HTML code would you like screen?
[21:45] <cecko> hi all, messing around my system I deleted my /tmp, now  even if I recreate it with 755 permissions, I cannot even log in... could anybody help me?
[21:45] <exs> i have a problem with gnome-network-properties. after configure a proxy systemwidly i cant reset the settings to work without the proxy configuration
[21:45] <DasEi> elot: which distro ?
[21:45] <elot> ubuntu 10.10 AMD 64
[21:45] <sixofour11> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 and when I go to boot my computer it says "Gave up waiting for root device" and puts me at a shell.
[21:45] <Stereocaulon> How do I give a windows program raw access to my floppy drive?
[21:46] <elot> DasEi: ubuntu 10.10 AMD 64
[21:46] <DasEi> elot: gedit /var/log/syslog
[21:46] <DasEi> elot: you know how to use pastebin ?
[21:47] <elot> DasEi: no but i'll try to find it out
[21:47] <DasEi> !paste
[21:47] <franco> hallo bin neu hier
[21:47] <DasEi> !de
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> Stereocaulon:  Hmm. never tried to let wine do somthing like that. You may want to check teh wine homepage/faq/forums.
[21:47] <sixofour11> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 and when I go to boot my computer it says "Gave up waiting for root device" and puts me at a shell.
[21:48] <DasEi> franco: englisch ? sonst #ubuntu-de
[21:48] <Mathuin> I would like to install the postfix package on Ubuntu in a non-interactive manner.  How do I do this?  I don't want to be asked about what kind of setup -- I want to use "internet site".
[21:48] <mrdeb> did you install grub to the master boot record
[21:48] <mrdeb> DasEi:
[21:48] <Stereocaulon> Dr_Willis, thanks for the link!
[21:48] <sixofour11> mrdeb me?
[21:48] <mrdeb> yes
[21:49] <Mathuin> Failing that, what's the minimal requirement to send mail from an Ubuntu server?
[21:49] <sixofour11> probably not, lol, i am not sure, ive placed grub on sda [th hardrive] and on sda4 [my linux instal partition] and it failed both times
[21:49] <cecko> hi all, being stupid I deleted my /tmp, now even if I recreate it with 755 permissions, I cannot log in... could anybody please help me?
[21:49] <sixofour11> mrdeb
[21:49] <salihk1> hello guys, do you how to enable multitouch on ubuntu ?
[21:49] <sixofour11> i tried to partition my hd as, 2gb swap, 16gb linux, and the rest is data
[21:49] <mrdeb> ok sixofour11
[21:50] <sixofour11> but its been a long time since i have done this
[21:50] <Mathuin> cecko: create it with 777, then chmod +t ?
[21:50] <elot> DasEi: oh that log is bigger than 500kb
[21:50] <DasEi> elot: copy syslog to http://paste.ubuntu.com , press paste, copy url from browser, give it here
[21:50] <mrdeb> you did the standard install and didnt change grub pulling root from /dev/sda?
[21:50] <bastidrazor> Mathuin: is there a reason you can't do ncurses setup? tab and spacebar are how you would navigate around during that setup.
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> sixofour11:  you want to install grub to the mbr of the drive you are booting.. ie: /dev/sda
[21:50] <sixofour11> no, i did advanced
[21:50] <Mathuin> bastidrazor: it's an unattended installation.
[21:50] <sixofour11> i think i should try the "use the whole drive" option
[21:50] <mrdeb> advanced partitions, but did you install grub to /dev/sda or elsewhere
[21:50] <Leif> xangua, Hmmm...I still don't have the top part of windows...what package is that?
[21:50] <cecko> Mathuin: thank you I'll try that! BRB
[21:50] <sixofour11> to /dev/sda
[21:51] <sixofour11> i lft it default the second time
[21:51] <sixofour11> left*
[21:51] <mrdeb> ok, it hsould work then
[21:51] <sixofour11> hmm, it didn't
[21:51] <elot> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588726/
[21:51] <sixofour11> i only have one hd
[21:51] <mrdeb> you can boot into it with the live usb/cd and see if you can reinstall grub to the point to the partition. do you have multiple hard drives?
[21:51] <Daniel0108> Is Ubuntu MultiTouch working with the TUIO protocol? :)
[21:52] <DasEi> sixofour11: try supergrubdisk
[21:52] <bastidrazor> Mathuin: sendmail is all you need to 'send an email'.. if you need postfix possibly #ubuntu-server will have a better answer
[21:52] <sixofour11> what is supergrubdisk
[21:52] <Mathuin> bastidrazor: I do not need postfix, I just chose that as an example mail transfer agent.
[21:52] <DasEi> elot: reading
[21:53] <Mathuin> What I need is a mail user agent -- as minimal as mail or mailx -- and if necessary, a mail transfer agent.
[21:53] <Mathuin> All I want to do is mail myself the output of a process. :-)
[21:53] <mrdeb> bbl
[21:54] <llutz> Mathuin: msmtp/ssmtp + mail-utils
[21:54] <sixofour11> also, the livecd takes like 1- mnutes to load, maybe there is something wrong with the cd?...i had similar problems last time [9.10] when in stalling on my laptop
[21:54] <sixofour11> 10*
[21:54] <Mathuin> llutz: I'll give those a try.  I'd heard that ssmtp was no longer actively maintained -- is that true?
[21:54] <kaosko> hello, anybody able to help me building coova-chilli package on amd64 ubuntu? the issue is that .deb produced by dpkg-buildpackage doesn't include the executables
[21:54] <llutz> Mathuin: no idea, i prefer mstmp
[21:54] <llutz> smtp
[21:54] <sixofour11> perhaps making a new ubuntu cd would help
[21:54] <cecko> Mathuin: thank you, It seems to work allright! so 777 is the default permission for /tmp?
[21:55] <jerry256> hello
[21:55] <Mathuin> cecko: drwxrwxrwt is what I've got here.
[21:55] <llutz> Mathuin: besides that: theres not much maintenance needed for such a simple tool/task  ;)
[21:55] <DasEi> elot: seems your partitions are messed up, another question : do you have a swap twice the ram installed ?
[21:55] <cecko> Mathuin: ok, thx
[21:56] <jerry256> I have an unreliable broadband internet connection... how can I update my system without it breaking something during the download and install of all major updates?
[21:56] <elot> DasEi: i have 4GB RAM and swap is about 9GB
[21:56] <Mathuin> llutz: heh.  hmm.  mailutils won't install without me playing ncurses games, which isn't acceptable for this purpose.  I'll try heirloom-mailx next.
[21:56] <DasEi> elot: should be fine
[21:56] <jerry256> Can I download all major updates first, then install them later? how do I do this?
[21:56] <sixofour11> mrdeb i think i will try the "use the whole drive" option [second option] and if it fails, maybe there is something wrong with my live cd
[21:57] <nerdshell> how can I enable graphics in Links ?
[21:57] <sixofour11> mrdeb the live cd takes a very long time to load and i had a similar problem with 9.10
[21:57] <nerdshell> how can I enable graphics in Links ?
[21:58] <nerdshell> how can I enable graphics in Links ?
[21:58] <milen8204> I have installed Virtual Box and set up for Windows 7  and Windows 7 doesn't recognize my videocard GeForce G 105M CUDA
[21:58] <milen8204> anyone can help ?
[21:58] <DasEi> milen8204: wrong chan here (##vbox), that won't work, emulation
[21:59] <Mathuin> Oh crap.  mailutils just littered my new server install with like seven or eight packages.  How do I list all the packages that were just installed? :-P
[21:59] <llutz> milen8204: running w7 as guest-os? it will only see the vbox-graphics adapter
[21:59] <milen8204> IIu
[21:59] <elot> DasEi: this did work well but yesterday this hapends cannot susped
[22:00] <milen8204> llutz, W7 is my quest os
[22:00] <llutz> milen8204: guest-os won't have access to native videocards
[22:00] <bastidrazor> Mathuin: apt-get autoremove should remove unused dependencies
[22:00] <DasEi> elot: did you change annything in your mount/partitiontable/fstab ?
[22:00] <llutz> milen8204: you want to read the vbox-documentation
[22:00] <jerry256> How can I use APT to download all updates to my system for later install?
[22:01] <DasEi> jerry256: hardly, you can use a local updatemirror
[22:01] <Mathuin> bastidrazor: thank you, exactly what I needed.
[22:01] <elot> DasEi: no but i had full HDD i deleted some music etc.
[22:01] <milen8204> llutz, thanks
[22:01] <DasEi> quite a hassle, or get the latest iso then and and now, mount it put to sources
[22:02] <n1x1> hi guys, i have some funny question
[22:02] <n1x1> how to open current aplication? (e.g skype, pidgin... or other)
[22:02] <n1x1> when icon is hide on gnome panel?
[22:02] <DasEi> elot: df -h , how much space left ?
[22:02] <bastidrazor> Mathuin: you're welcome.
[22:02] <tehnef> jerry256: apt-get -d upgrade
[22:02] <DasEi> n1x1: terminal
[22:02] <n1x1> DasEi: yes but how? :D
[22:03] <DasEi> n1x1: !terminal
[22:03] <DasEi> !terminal
[22:03] <DasEi> n1x1: enter pidgin or whatever prog there
[22:03] <n1x1> DasEi: wtf? :D
[22:03] <n1x1> i wanna open current
[22:03] <jerry256> tehnef, thanks
[22:03] <n1x1> aplication...
[22:03] <Mathuin> llutz: msmtp requires a lot of configuration. :-(  I'm ---> <--- this close to simply telnetting to port 25 on the destination server.  It shouldn't be this hard just to send a single email.
[22:03] <elot> DasEi: 5.8G
[22:03] <n1x1> when you type skype skype skype
[22:04] <DasEi> n1x1: create a starter, edit the menue
[22:04] <n1x1> opened is 3 skype..
[22:04] <tehnef> jerry256: yeah man
[22:04] <n1x1> DasEi: mda... i dont wanna speaking with you :)
[22:04] <llutz> Mathuin: mstmp needs exact one config-file
[22:04] <n1x1> i dont want sys bar on panel..
[22:05] <bastidrazor> Mathuin: possibly use mutt ?
[22:05] <Mathuin> llutz: I need a .mailrc that points at msmtp and an msmtprc file which appears to need to be pointed at a mail server.
[22:06] <Mathuin> bastidrazor: I imagine installing mutt will make Ubuntu install a MTA, right?  That's what I've been trying to avoid. :-)
[22:06] <DasEi> tehnef: that will download (apt-get -d upgrade) d/l on a crappy connection and else stuck , but won't install untill done ?
[22:06] <elot> DasEi: 5.8Gb left and i did install libgcryp for faster hibernation
[22:07] <elot> DasEi: could be problem in libgcrypt?
[22:07] <bastidrazor> Mathuin: it recommends an MTA but it isn't a dependency.
[22:07] <Mathuin> bastidrazor: can mutt send mail without an MTA installed?
[22:07] <DasEi> elot: might be, but I'm not common with that
[22:08] <DasEi> elot: try removing ?
[22:08] <tehnef> DasEi: it will ONLY download them. once they're downloaded you should be able to 'apt-get upgrade' and have them work?i'm not 100% sure though
[22:08] <bastidrazor> Mathuin: uh mutt will not work. it installs the postfix package.
[22:08] <DasEi> tehnef: ah, I see
[22:08] <elot> DasEi: yes just second
[22:08] <DasEi> man apt-get, lazyboy :)
[22:08] <llutz> Mathuin: mutt >1-5.14 should be able to send mail
[22:09] <Mathuin> llutz: *without* installing postfix or sendmail or any of that?
[22:09] <llutz> Mathuin: http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttGuide/Send
[22:09] <DasEi> elot: in your syslog there are many complains about partitons not being found
[22:09] <Mathuin> llutz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mutt#Installation *sigh*
[22:09] <|Long|> can someone plz help me..after update new driver for gforce 8400gs, i reboot and stuck at initramfs screen, how i fix this?
[22:10] <edbian> |Long|, press shift during boot to get the grub menu.  Can you boot into recovery mode?
[22:10] <DasEi> |Long|: supergrubdisk or live cd, chroot, reinstall grub
[22:10] <llutz> Mathuin: i guess mutt.org should know better about mutt
[22:10] <edbian> DasEi, Um, I think he has grub...
[22:10] <elot> DasEi: i have partition for Win two partitions for linux(ext and swap) and some shits from manufacturer
[22:10] <jerry256> tehnef, I have a question, do I need to do this as root in ubuntu?
[22:11] <kaosko> hello, anybody able to help me building coova-chilli package on amd64 ubuntu? the issue is that .deb produced by dpkg-buildpackage doesn't include the executables
[22:11] <DasEi> edbian: initramfs-screen is busybox ? |Long|
[22:11] <|Long|> yes
[22:11] <edbian> DasEi, Which is a result of booting a kernel that does not work?
[22:11] <Mathuin> llutz: yeah, but it's Ubuntu I'm using.
[22:11] <Mathuin> I wonder if there's a dummy MTA package I can install.
[22:11] <llutz> !info mutt
[22:11] <InvaderZim> for many months I have tried do-release-upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 but everytime it  gives me error: "pkgproblemresolver::resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages
[22:12] <DasEi> edbian: ah ok, or not being found
[22:12] <tehnef> jerry256: yeah
[22:12] <edbian> DasEi, He installed a new nvidia driver.  Why would grub be pointing to a kernel that doesn't exist anymore?
[22:12] <llutz> Mathuin: sudo aptitude -R install mutt
[22:12] <tehnef> jerry256: sudo works fine
[22:13] <jerry256> tehnef, ok, thank you
[22:13] <elot> DasEi: that wasnt Libgcrypt but tuxonice-userui
[22:13] <edbian> |Long|, Can you boot recovery mode?
[22:13] <InvaderZim> can any1 help me?
[22:14] <Mathuin> llutz: installed, but doesn't send mail.
[22:14] <DasEi> elot: don't freeze tux, so working now again ?
[22:14] <|Long|> edbian, let me put back livecd
[22:15] <Mathuin> Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.).
[22:15] <Mathuin> Could not send the message.
[22:15] <jerry256> tehnef, what do I do after I have successfully downloaded my updates for the ubuntu system? how I install them later?
[22:15] <Mathuin> Awesome trick with aptitude -R, though, I didn't know about how to do that.
[22:15] <edbian> |Long|, no no.  Can you boot recovery mode without a live Cd.  Press shift during normal boot (before Ubuntu begin) and use the grub menu
[22:15] <elot> DasEi: i
[22:15] <llutz> Mathuin: http://wiki.mutt.org/?action=browse&diff=1&id=MuttFaq/Sendmail
[22:16] <llutz> Mathuin: "How do I configure Mutt to use a remote SMTP server to send mail?"
[22:16] <elot> DasEi: i did uninstall tuxonice-userui and nothing happend
[22:16] <DasEi> edbian: sry for fuzzling in again, left ctrl it is on my grub2
[22:16] <elot> DasEi: i try reboot just a second
[22:16] <Hedgehog456> Is the Firefox4 PPA safe?
[22:17] <edbian> DasEi, No worries.  is it really left ctrl?  Why do they keep changing it!?  What was wrong with escape?
[22:17] <DasEi> Hedgehog456: what is safe ? I had no problems, but that are betas, in the daily
[22:17] <edbian> Hedgehog456, If you trust mozilla it is
[22:18] <Hedgehog456> DasEi: No malware, will not bug up my system
[22:18] <edbian> Hedgehog456, definitely no malware.
[22:18] <DasEi> Hedgehog456: had no problems so far
[22:18] <Mathuin> llutz: That is very cool.  It won't work for me, because I don't have a username and password to give it.
[22:18] <AegisX> Hi guys. When I restart my laptop, Gnome Do almost never works properly; I have to restart the application for it to function. Is there a fix for this?
[22:18] <edbian> Hedgehog456, Will firefox4 have bugs in it?  Probably.  Does firefox3 have bugs in it?  Probably
[22:18] <Mathuin> llutz: thank you for finding it.  I will be able to use it in other situations.
[22:18] <DasEi> Hedgehog456: has an own pgpg key, so I really doubt eastereggs there
[22:19] <demonspork> I have 3x 1TB hard drives.  What would happen if I added 3x 1.5TB hard drives and set them up in RAID5 with LVM?  Would I lose the extra .5GB per drive or would I be able to get that extra space in the array?
[22:19] <egarff> demonspork: if you set it up as 2 LVM arrays, you'd have redundancy per LVM array, and then you'd have all of your space.
[22:20] <egarff> demonspork: or I mean, 2 arrays added into a single LVM container.
[22:20] <Jasonn> I am using hamachi on my server, and my comp, both ubuntu, and I want my computer to connect to the server via the virtual connection that hamachi provides to connect to a proxy
[22:20] <egarff> demonspork: Just realize that your redundancy would ONLY be in the raid array's, LVM doesn't provide redundancy.
[22:21] <demonspork> egarff, but that would still be n-1, so 2TB per array and I am trying to get 5TB or more out of 6 drives
[22:21] <demonspork> egarff, but can't you use LVM to set up a software raid?
[22:21] <egarff> demonspork: It's the only real way to do it... N is equal to your smallest drive in a raid array.
[22:21] <DasEi> demonspork: can
[22:21] <egarff> demonspork: I've put software raids in LVM containers.
[22:22] <egarff> demonspork: you can use LVM to use all the drives as part of an 'array', but you don't have any redundancy.
[22:22] <elot> DasEi: i'm back after reboot still not working
[22:22] <demonspork> oh, actually I would have a total of 3TB in the raid5 with the 1.5TB drives and then 2TB with the 3x 1TB drives, so that would be acceptable
[22:23] <|Long|> edbian, yea i can boot to cmd line,,, but what do i do there?
[22:23] <egarff> So you'd have 5TB for LVM
[22:23] <edbian> |Long|, What is the name of the driver you installed?
[22:24] <demonspork> and this RAID setup I could do in the OS? because the board I am currently planning to use wont' support a BIOS level RAID
[22:24] <|Long|> sda1
[22:24] <Jasonn> I am using hamachi on my server, and my comp, both ubuntu, and I want my computer to connect to the server via the virtual connection that hamachi provides to connect to a proxy
[22:24] <edbian> |Long|, ... what?
[22:24] <|Long|> nvida 8400gs video driver
[22:24] <egarff> demonspork: yes, although that's slightly more convoluted, my suggestion would be to break off 50MB or so for a /boot partition, then use the rest for the raid+lvm
[22:25] <edbian> |Long|, Hang on.  I have to find the actual package name.
[22:25] <demonspork> egarff, using a separate drive for the OS, so that won't be an issue
[22:25] <egarff> demonspork: BUT, if you wanted to use the whole raid+LVM without a boot partition, it can be done..
[22:25] <|Long|> edbian, thanks
[22:25] <egarff> demonspork: well, there ya go... easy peasy.
[22:25] <egarff> demonspork: use mdadm to setup the arrays, then the lvm tools to add the arrays to the LVM array.
[22:25] <edbian> |Long|, try this: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx     then press tab twice (or three times) real fast
[22:25] <demonspork> sweet, now to just pick a decent case that will keep all 7 hard drives quiet
[22:26] <demonspork> and then I can hit check out on newegg
[22:26] <egarff> demonspork: Now, one caveat.
[22:26] <demonspork> oh boy
[22:26] <|Long|> edbian, ok let me try
[22:26] <egarff> demonspork: You're using 2 software level 'drivers', so it'll be slightly slower than hardware.
[22:26] <egarff> demonspork: Or just one of them instead of the 2 combined.
[22:26] <DasEi> elot: I   don't have a certain idea , you can try go through syslog again, find out where these mount-errors come from, also dmesg could reveal something after a frozen hibernation
[22:27] <demonspork> egarff, I am aware, it is going to be a file server. Would I get better performance if I simply had 6x 1TB drives in a software RAID rather than 2 different RAIDs combine with LVM?
[22:27] <edbian> |Long|, this is 10.10  maverick ?
[22:27] <egarff> demonspork: I'd guess though that with 5TB, you're looking to do some sort of file (media, smb, etc.) serving.  Generally, your network will be a bigger slowdown than the 'drivers'.
[22:27] <DasEi> elot: hmm, real big /tmp.. 5.8 isn't much space, too
[22:27] <egarff> demonspork: network will be a bigger bottleneck, I wouldn't stress about it.
[22:28] <Hedgehog456> I've added the Mozilla PPA but it's not showing up anywhere. :(
[22:28] <demonspork> dual gigabit LAN might stress it a bit during LAN parties, but it probably won't be too bad
[22:28] <bastidrazor> Hedgehog456: did you update the repository list?
[22:28] <egarff> demonspork: heh... bonding will be another hitch for speed, but I wouldn't stress.
[22:28] <Hedgehog456> bastidrazor: how do I do that?
[22:29] <bastidrazor> Hedgehog456: how did you add the ppa?
[22:29] <elot> DasEi: i know but that shudn't be problem i guess
[22:29] <egarff> demonspork: How are you going to bond btw, do you have a managed switch that can do bonding with linux?
[22:29] <DasEi> Hedgehog456: it does,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-4.0
[22:29] <Hedgehog456> ok
[22:29] <edbian> What the heck is the difference between nvidia-current, nvidia-96, and nvidia-173
[22:29] <bastidrazor> Hedgehog456: DasEi actually just 'firefox'
[22:30] <egarff> Speaking of firefox-4, has anyone else noticed on some flash videos (go view CNN's to see it) that you get weird artifacting?
[22:30] <demonspork> egarff, if I have a 3 drive RAID5 software array can I add a 4th drive to that raid5 without losing any data or would I have to completely rebuild it to do that?
[22:30] <egarff> demonspork: rebuild
[22:30] <demonspork> shoot
[22:30] <demonspork> hmm
[22:30] <egarff> demonspork: raid doesn't support adding or removing, just fault tolerance.
[22:30] <Axlin> egarff: yeah. it's a problem with the latest version of flash player. i fixed it by switching to the 64 bit flash preview
[22:30] <sixofour11> I installed ubuntu 10.10 using the whole drive option, and it still says "gave up waiting for root device" upon booting the system, could my ubuntu cd be bad?
[22:30] <edbian> |Long|, Do you have a geforce 8400gs   ?
[22:30] <yagoo> egarff, artifacting? you on lsd?
[22:30] <Axlin> but that only works if you have a 64 bit ubuntu install :P
[22:31] <egarff> Axlin: good to know.
[22:31] <egarff> yagoo: no, ubuntu 10.10
[22:31] <egarff> yagoo: hahaha!! I read that as bsd
[22:31] <yagoo> :)
[22:31] <demonspork> egarff, not planning on using bonding or anything, just going to have people access it via 2 separate IP Addresses
[22:31] <edbian> |Long|, hello?
[22:31] <egarff> yagoo: artifacting is the tv/movie industry term for strangeness on the screen.
[22:31] <demonspork> at LAN parties 2 separate networks
[22:32] <egarff> demonspork: ahh...
[22:32] <egarff> demonspork: well, just remember, most 'intel' based systems have a hard time even utilizing 1 gigabit due to processor/bus limitations.
[22:32] <demonspork> now that I finally sat down and learned how to do actual routing I can segregate the broadcast domains at LAN parties
[22:33] <egarff> demonspork: awesome!  Been doing that stuff myself for years. ;)
[22:33] <DasEi> Hedgehog456: if not in sources.list, additionals go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:33] <sixofour11> I installed ubuntu 10.10 using the whole drive option, and it still says "gave up waiting for root device" upon booting the system, could my ubuntu cd be bad?
[22:33] <demonspork> well, it was a pain having everyone on the same broadcast domain because it took 30 minutes to find out whose computer had a bad NIC that was overloading the switch with bad packets
[22:34] <edbian> |Long|, I have to go.  Try to figure out which of these packages you installed so you can remove it.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all
[22:34] <egarff> demonspork: understandable.  I think it's a great idea... I'm just saying, don't expect 2N
[22:34] <demonspork> 2N?
[22:34] <egarff> demonspork: 2 times 1G
[22:34] <demonspork> oh, right
[22:35] <demonspork> yeah, just giving it more capability than it can handle to make sure that I can get the maximum out of it
[22:35] <|Long|> edbian, thanks
[22:35] <jon__> Does anyone know of a good tutorial on how to triple boot winows 7, osx and ubuntu 10.10?
[22:35] <DasEi> |Long|: you are  in commandline of rescue mode ?
[22:35] <yagoo> demonspork, you running a game server at those lan parties?
[22:35] <Axlin> jon__: on a mac?
[22:36] <egarff> demonspork: well, I wish you much luck.  The only thing I can suggest with wanting to add drives is LVM gives you that option, you could always buy 2 more drives and add a mirror, thus still having redundancy.
[22:36] <jon__> on a pc
[22:36] <|Long|> DasEi, yea on cmd mode now
[22:36] <Axlin> jon__: well you should probably start with a hackintosh guide. i know lifehacker has a couple of good ones to set up a dual boot windows/os x system. after that, you'd just create another partition for linux and install ubuntu there
[22:37] <demonspork> egarff, yeah, at that point I would also be adding a separate SATA controller card because I would be out of ports, but it is a functional option. I know a guy who does that setup with external drives, just has stacks and stacks of external hard drives and he keeps adding controllers and adding piles of hard drives
[22:37] <DasEi> |Long|: you could look in /boot for latest kernel, re-install it simply
[22:37] <|Long|> i selected fix broken package option
[22:37] <egarff> demonspork: Heh.. seems slightly ridiculous, but I can see the draw.
[22:37] <jon__> Can I pick which one to boot all from one screen?
[22:37] <DasEi> |Long|: also a try worth
[22:38] <|Long|> DasEi, i will let you know in few min
[22:38] <danileigh79> ruan: i reinstalled audacious now program won't open
[22:38] <Axlin> jon__: yes. you should be presented with a graphical boot loader which will list windows, os x, linux, and any other bootable media
[22:38] <Axlin> jon__: the lifehacker guides should go into detail about that
[22:38] <yagoo> jon__, they all can do that.. u'd just have to tinker 1 of them.. i suggest using chameleon2..
[22:38] <DasEi> jon__: ask in #grub for osx, if thhhhat chainloads, win and ubu is no problem, idk about osx
[22:38] <Asad> anyone knows of a codec for a52 in ubuntu
[22:39] <Asad> it's an audio codec...
[22:39] <yagoo> danileigh79, lol
[22:39] <RSombry> Can i BOOT Ubuntu from VHD like Windows 7?
[22:39] <danileigh79> yagoo: what's so funny
[22:39] <brontosaurusrex> Asad, thats ac3 alias dolby digital
[22:39] <DasEi> Asad: most can be found in :
[22:39] <DasEi> !medibuntu
[22:39] <yagoo> RSombry, no.. but grub2 supports a similar thing to vhd bootstrapping for linux image files
[22:40] <Asad> brontosaurusrex: ah right.. is it in mediabuntu?
[22:40] <danileigh79> DasEi: do you have anymore advice, I still can't get audacious to open
[22:40] <yagoo> RSombry, you can have an imagefile with linux on it.. and this imagefile can be on ntfs..
[22:40] <brontosaurusrex> Asad, i just use vlc or mplayer
[22:40] <DasEi> Asad: tried restricted extras already ?
[22:41] <jon__> If I already have ubuntu and windows loaded I should take ubuntu off and put it back on?
[22:41] <yagoo> danileigh79, you don't know how to use audacity.
[22:41] <DasEi> Asad: bunch of common ssssstuff : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:41] <yagoo> jon__, "loaded" ?
[22:41] <Asad> yes DasEi .. I tried restricted-extras
[22:41] <DasEi> ic
[22:41] <danileigh79> yagoo: I most certainly do, I had it working, I updated a lib, and now it won't work
[22:42] <demonspork> egarff, you will be here in a week when I am configure this rig right?
[22:42] <RSombry> yagoo: more details please
[22:42] <jon__> hmm?
[22:42] <DasEi> Asad: vlc is next try then
[22:42] <danileigh79> yagoo: if you're not going to be helpful, don't make unnecessary comments
[22:42] <yagoo> danileigh79, do an ltrace .. (library trace).. maybe u have to make a symlink to the new library
[22:42] <egarff> demonspork: haha... I lurk sometimes...  I'm in mountain time zone, so generally after work on weekdays probably around 7pm I jump on.
[22:42] <egarff> demonspork: or the weekends.
[22:42] <DasEi> danileigh79: what happens if you launch it , btw try to
[22:43] <Asad> DasEi: VLC is working fine on windows but on ubuntu, audio is messed up with this codec.. I think VLC actually uses system codecs for this ...
[22:43] <demonspork> I will probably manage, I have done LVM configurations before, but nothing this ambitious yet.
[22:43] <bandit63> what codec is not working?
[22:43] <DasEi> Asad: nope, bring it's own, same codecs
[22:43] <cesin10> good all
[22:43] <DasEi> brings*
[22:43] <demonspork> Asad, VLC uses some system codecs on Linux
[22:43] <Asad> why would it be different on ubuntu then .. weir
[22:44] <danileigh79> DasEi: nothing happens at all when i click on audacoious, and says starting audacious when i click on audacious (gtkui) then goes back to nothing happening
[22:44] <Asad> oh demonspork .. can they be replaced?
[22:44] <demonspork> Asad, that is the extent of my knowledge on the matter, sorry
[22:44] <RSombry> how to boot virtual hard disk in linux?
[22:44] <yagoo> RSombry, what are u trying to install? ubuntu? there's an installer to setup ubuntu on a linux imagefile on ntfs
[22:44] <DasEi> danileigh79: try to launch it from terminal
[22:44] <jon__> Is there anyway I can back up all of my ubuntu settings and then reinstall it later and get it all back?
[22:44] <yagoo> RSombry, ^
[22:44] <danileigh79> DasEi: ALL OUTPUT PLUGINS FAILED TO INITIALIZE.
[22:44] <RSombry> what is imagefile? its like VHD?
[22:45] <yagoo> yeah
[22:45] <Axlin> jon__: back up your entire home folder. make sure to include hidden files (ctrl+h to show them)
[22:45] <cesin10> I need understand fast fourrier transform (fft) and inverse fft for compar audio format mp3 or wave in real time
[22:45] <jon__> And I can just drag them all to a hard drive?
[22:45] <DasEi> danileigh79: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install &&  sudo apt-get install --reinstall audacious
[22:45] <cesin10> someone help me ?
[22:46] <Axlin> jon__: yep, and restore them after reinstallation. make sure your new install uses the same username
[22:46] <guntbert> cesin10: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[22:46] <s3r3n1t7> DasEi, wasn't apt-get upgrade deprecated?
[22:46] <vyoma> Is there  a different channel for ubuntu natty support ?
[22:46] <th0r> guntbert: darn....I was looking forward to the answer to that one
[22:46] <DasEi> s3r3n1t7: no..
[22:46] <cesin10> ok guntbert
[22:46] <jon__> by restore do you mean I just replace the new one with the old one?
[22:46] <llutz> !natty
[22:46] <yagoo> RSombry, i'll try to find the link\
[22:46] <Axlin> jon__: exactly. so after you finish installing, you go to your backup, and replace your new /home folder with the backed up /home folder
[22:47] <vyoma> llutz: thanks!
[22:47] <root_> Is there a program I can run on a folder to remove non standard charectars from file names of files in that folder?
[22:47] <cesin10> thanks, you have idea where i can find ?
[22:47] <jon__> Ok thanks
[22:47] <cesin10> about my problem?
[22:47] <Axlin> jon__: you may also want to back up /etc/apt as well if you have added any custom repositories. otherwise, you'll have to re-add them
[22:47] <egarff> Axlin: thanks for the pointer, 64 bit preview flash fixed it.
[22:47] <Axlin> nice egarff :)
[22:47] <egarff> Axlin: Much gratitude.
[22:47] <cesin10> or any channel about audio program
[22:48] <Axlin> np. my only gripe is that it's a little bit slower for me. but at least videos are watchable again
[22:48] <cesin10> any place, please ?!
[22:48] <egarff> Axlin: seems fine for me, but I'm running on a quad i7
[22:48] <yagoo> RSombry, there's also this site (known to #debian) http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ ... i'm looking for the ubuntu one
[22:48] <guntbert> cesin10: start asking in #math
[22:48] <th0r> cesin10: I had a good course on that at the University of Illinois
[22:48] <Axlin> oh, powerhouse heh
[22:48] <jon__> Where can I find that?
[22:48] <egarff> Axlin: heh... yep! ;)
[22:48] <DasEi> cesin10: you might want to look in rosegarden or #ubuntu-studio, I'm no pro in that, sry
[22:48] <brontosaurusrex> cesin10, hydrogenaudio.org
[22:49] <danileigh79> DasEi: pls pm that, couldn't copy bdidn't work, bucnh of errors anout unexpected token and syntax errors
[22:49] <DasEi> !info rosegarden, cesin10
[22:49] <DasEi> !info rosegarden
[22:49] <yagoo> there a goodbye-microsoft.com/ for ubuntu guys?
[22:50] <jon__> it giving me the error "The folder ".gnupg" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it."
[22:50] <cesin10> ok thanks all
[22:50] <eamon> How do I batch-rename? Any good progs?
[22:50] <cesin10> very satisfaction
[22:50] <cesin10> thanks
[22:50] <llutz> eamon: "rename"
[22:51] <yagoo> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[22:51] <Tigger__> cesin10: you are welcomd :D
[22:51] <yagoo> RSombry, found it!
[22:51] <yagoo> !!
[22:51] <Axlin> jon__: just skip it. you don't need it
[22:51] <brontosaurusrex> eamon, thunar is easy
[22:51] <elementz> hi all. i have a problem removing a package via ppa-purge. i have installed the package via  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:florent.x/ppa
[22:52] <elementz> when trying to remove it via sudo ppa-purge ppa:florent.x/ppa
[22:52] <elementz> i get: Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: florent.x ppa
[22:52] <elementz> does anybody have an idea how i can fix this?
[22:53] <danileigh79> DasEi: I'm going offline for a while, if you're still on when I get back, I'd appreciate the help again
[22:53] <eamon> brontosaurusrex: how do I rename every file in a folder taking out special charectars?
[22:53] <llutz> eamon: what are "special charectars"?
[22:53] <jon__> So should I remove grub and all the ubuntu stuff and then do a hackintosh thing?
[22:53] <vlt> Hello. I installed hugin on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but when I start it I get a "memory access error" after closing the tip of the day popup. How to make it work?
[22:53] <eamon> llutz: anything outside a-z 1-9 and normal symbols
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> jon__, What boot loader you going to use with yer Hackintosh?
[22:54] <eamon> accented charectars and the like
[22:54] <Axlin> jon__: if i were you, i would look up one of those how-to's on lifehacker to see if you're willing to go through with it to begin with
[22:54] <jon__> All of the guides I see are to make a hackintosh pc, but thats not dual booting is it?
[22:55] <YankDownUnder> jon__, Have you looked at this: http://hackintosh.org/index.php/topic,8799.0.html
[22:55] <jon__> http://lifehacker.com/#!348653/install-os-x-on-your-hackintosh-pc-no-hacking-required
[22:55] <jon__> Is that the right thing?
[22:55] <eamon> llutz: do you know a program that can do this?
[22:55] <bazhang> jon__, thats offtopic here and on freenode
[22:55] <llutz> eamon: "rename"
[22:55] <eamon> llutz: what is the option to strip special charectars?
[22:56] <jon__> Sorry :S
[22:56] <yagoo> jon__, ^ I said u can use any bootloader.. u'll just have to understand this-> install the primary bootloaders for the others into their own partitions..
[22:56] <gianky> salve
[22:56] <eamon> llutz: It is not listed in the manual
[22:56] <yagoo> jon__, cuse i've done it..
[22:56] <llutz> eamon: there is no option for that because it depends on YOUR definition of "special"
[22:56] <jon__> I dont understand how the bootloader works, ubuntu just put it on automatically
[22:57] <Jasonn> I am using hamachi on my server, and my comp, both ubuntu, and I want my computer to connect to the server via the virtual connection that hamachi provides to connect to a proxy
[22:57] <llutz> eamon: so feed rename with a list of all those unwanted chars  and what you want it to substitute to
[22:57] <eamon> llutz: I want to get rid of the charectars that my pc can't display. They're coming up as ? marks in terminal
[22:58] <yagoo> jon__, u need to place stage1 of whatever bootloader into the "other" Oses.. so lets say u use grub2 in the mbr.. u'll need to place chameleon2 into OSX's partition and Win7's bootmgr into it's own parition .. then this means just to use "chainloader" for Win7 and OSX from grub
[22:58] <llutz> eamon: check your locales
[22:58] <eamon> llutz: how do I know what the chars are if the comp can;'t display them. I need something tthat can strip these special chars
[22:58] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me why Metacity draws drop shadows around Conky?
[22:58] <jon__> Is there an online tut you know of that explains all this?  I have no idea what all this bootloader stuff is
[22:58] <llutz> !info convmv
[22:58] <llutz> eamon: ^^
[22:59] <eamon> ty
[22:59] <yagoo> jon__, then just use a bootusb... don't bother.. it really is time consuming
[22:59] <jon__> I dont know what that is either :s
[23:01] <drawmeat> I have a question for #ubuntu-unregged.  Is there anyway to record the sound output of a program like chrome.  I'm trying to record an out going phone call made from gchat and want to record the audio.  Help Plox!
[23:02] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me why Metacity draws drop shadows around Conky?
[23:05] <sidein> hello, I have a friend with a sound issue. Everything appears to be working, on his end, but no sound comes out, and the speakers are verified working
[23:05] <tehnef> sidein: "a friend". riiiiight. :P
[23:05] <tehnef> sidein: what kind of computer?
[23:06] <sidein> it's and old compaq computer
[23:06] <txh> how should I partition a hdd for ubuntu? shouldit be on an msdos part table?
[23:07] <memphiz> Hi all
[23:07] <yagoo> txh, it can be gpt and like 20 different partitionstyle tables..
[23:07] <bastidrazor> txh: ext3 or ext4
[23:07] <yagoo> txh, for any linux.. it's basically "/" and swap partition .. just 2 at minimum needed..
[23:07] <sidein> It's running mint 10 technically
[23:07] <icewaterman> hi, my ubuntu disguises as kubuntu during boot
[23:07] <tatu> eamon, zero is also default char :)
[23:07] <icewaterman> how can i fix that?
[23:08] <sidein> from what I can get from him, sound stopped working yesterday for no apparent reason
[23:08] <icewaterman> the boot screen shows kubuntu instead of ubuntu even though i installed ubuntu (and added kubuntu desktop afterwards
[23:08] <memphiz> If I installed another Distro after installing ubuntu it overwrites my current Grub2 loader. If I now delete the partition with the newer Distro does this give me back my old Grub2?
[23:08] <icewaterman> sidein: try alsa-utils reset
[23:08] <drawmeat> I have a question for #ubuntu-unregged.  Is there anyway to record the sound output of a program like chrome.  I'm trying to record an out going phone call made from gchat and want to record the audio.  Help Plox!
[23:08] <pasquale> sera
[23:09] <nerdshell1> how can I enable graphics in Links ?
[23:09] <txh> I want to have a large ntfs tailing near the end of the disk will that interfere with it later wh I decide to install ubuntu?
[23:09] <sidein> everything seems to be in order on the system itself, alsa sees the card, it acts like it is working, but no sound at all
[23:09] <sidein> icewaterman, ok
[23:11] <sidein> I think it may be a hardware issue since everything appears to be in order on the os side
[23:11] <Jasonn> How do I make my computer use a certain network adapter as the default
[23:12] <cfedde> Jasonn: make sure that interface has the defualt route.
[23:12] <Jasonn> cfedde: And how do I do that?
[23:12] <drawmeat> plz plz plz help!
[23:12] <xzhe> hey, can someone help me with this prob? i mean find a solution, the prob: my laptop died , i  took the hdd to some usb hddcase and trying to copy some files from it on another ubuntu machine, this machne is old - dont have boot from usb, and i do not have the permission to copy the files, is there any way to login from this ubuntu to my linux partition which is on usb?
[23:13] <Jasonn> drawmeat: What do you need?
[23:13] <drawmeat> jasonn: Is there anyway to record the sound output of a program like chrome.  I'm trying to record an out going phone call made from gchat and want to record the audio.  Help Plox!
[23:13] <chipmink> s there a linux media player that can play audio/video from a windows samba share?  I would have no problems doing this in windows but playback starts, skips a couple of times then freezes the computer
[23:13] <sidein> drawmeat, I would try the program audacity
[23:13] <memphiz> After installing another Linux Distro my Grub2 is overwritten. If I now delete the partition with the new Distro do I get my old Grub2 back (it was customized to look clearer with a custom_menu.cfg)?
[23:13] <llutz> xzhe: copy it as root from any linux machine
[23:13] <drawmeat> sidein: got it with no success
[23:14] <tesh> hi, what does 'unable to stat' mean?
[23:14] <_Alex__> drawmeat: how about a loopback cable?
[23:14] <SwedeMike> chipmink: try vlc, it plays "everything".
[23:14] <chipmink> been there done that
[23:14] <xzhe> llutz: this is live cd ubuntu, ii did sudo nautilus, but still cant? i need to install the os first? - cant do it fro mlive cd?
[23:14] <drawmeat> alex__ looking for a software solution.  is there none?
[23:14] <chipmink> i have to copy complete file then vlc has no problem
[23:15] <_Alex__> xzhe: You must run GKSU! notSUDO
[23:15] <SwedeMike> chipmink: sounds like you have a network problem, not a video player problem.
[23:15] <Jasonn> How do I make my computer use a certain network adapter as the default
[23:15] <Jasonn> cfedde: ^^
[23:15] <Jasonn> cfedde: HOw do i make it use the default route?
[23:15] <llutz> xzhe: that should work from livecd too.
[23:15] <xzhe> let me try . brb - im talking from some http online irc - thru website lol
[23:16] <cfedde> Jasonn: are both interfaces on the same broadcast domain?
[23:16] <memphiz> After installing another Linux Distro my Grub2 is overwritten. If I now delete the partition with the new Distro do I get my old Grub2 back (it was customized to look clearer with a custom_menu.cfg)?
[23:17] <yagoo> memphiz, ?
[23:17] <yagoo> memphiz, just use the ubuntu cd to fix grub
[23:17] <llutz> memphiz: you'll have to write your old grub to MBR again BEFORE deleting the new partition
[23:17] <Jasonn> cfedde: One is a hamachi connection, and i want to use that "adapter" as the default one to connect to the internet with, I already have the proxy set up on the server. Also, I have to connect to a wireless network in order to use the VPN, so its kind of tough
[23:17] <memphiz> whats the command for that?
[23:17] <yagoo> memphiz, for your other distro go to #distro.. this is ubuntu
[23:17] <yagoo> memphiz, google ubuntu wiki grub fix
[23:18] <Jasonn> !google | yagoo
[23:18] <yagoo> I didn't say google it.
[23:18] <xzhe> _Alex__: still dont wotk, i did gksu, i took root and run nautilus, but still: Error opening file: Permission denied
[23:18] <yagoo> I told him what to google. Result is the first link.
[23:18] <memphiz> yagoo thx
[23:18] <llutz> memphiz: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:18] <yagoo> Jasonn, << stop abusing the bot
[23:18] <bazhang> !grub2 | memphiz
[23:19] <Jasonn> yagoo: You DID say google it
[23:19] <bazhang> yagoo, lets move on
[23:19] <memphiz> thanks guys
[23:19] <yagoo> Jasonn, nope.
[23:19] <bazhang> Jasonn, you too
[23:19] <sidein> icewaterman, `alsa-utils reset` followed by `aplay /somemusicfile/` doesn't yield any sound
[23:19] <yagoo> "yagoo> memphiz, google ubuntu wiki grub fix"
[23:19] <yagoo> ^. history speaks for itself kid.
[23:19] <cfedde> Jasonn: you can do it using the route command. Include the interface name in the argument list.
[23:19]  * yagoo ignores Jasonn
[23:20] <cfedde> Jasonn: it can also be done in the interfaces file.
[23:20] <Jasonn> cfedde: so route CONNECTIONNAME and then what, I only want google chrome to use it
[23:20] <Jasonn> cfedde: Actually, any prog can use it, just i need to connect to the internet in order for this to work, so i want that to happen too
[23:20] <cfedde> Jasonn: route delete default...; route add default ... ehth or something.
[23:20] <ejv> lol yagoo
[23:22] <Jasonn> cfedde: BUT it WILL still connect to the internet to enable hamachi?
[23:23] <cfedde> Jasonn: I'm not that familar with hamachi. iirc it creates a virtual interface.  use that one as the default route and all non local traffic will go over that interface.
[23:23] <PhoenixSTF> ok can anyone help me on manualy installing ati drivers on maverick?
[23:23] <cfedde> I thought that hamachi had a way of doing that for you though.
[23:24] <_Alex__> PhoneixSTF:
[23:24] <_Alex__> ok, i can
[23:24] <Jasonn> cfedde: Thanks :)
[23:24] <eamon> Hello I'm having trouble with displaying charectars in my terminal
[23:24] <PhoenixSTF> _Alex_, hey m8 i tried to install like in the unoficial wiki but nothing hapens
[23:25] <eamon> they are coming up as question marks or question marks inside circles
[23:25] <xzhe> ok i copied the files, had to open 2 nautilus as root, thanks for help
[23:25] <jeffreyf> hello ctl-alt-f8 as well as ctl-alt-f9 shows a blinking cursor.  All the other tty's allow for command line login......any idea??
[23:26] <PhoenixSTF> _Alex_, uninstaled the prior drivers, made the fglrx debpacakegs for maveric, and no fglrx installed :(
[23:26] <Jasonn> cfedde: SO if i want it to use ham0 then, what command should I use?
[23:26] <PhoenixSTF> _Alex_, also did the dpkg fglrx*.deb, restarted twice... no drivers...
[23:26] <cfedde> Jasonn: let me go read the route(1) manual for you.
[23:27] <Jasonn> cfedde: Thanks :)\
[23:27] <llutz> Jasonn: sudo route del default ; route add default ham0
[23:27] <llutz> sudo route *
[23:27] <memphiz> what is the location of drivers?`for example wifi drivers?
[23:27] <jeffreyf> hello ctl-alt-f8 as well as ctl-alt-f9 shows a blinking cursor.  All the other tty's allow for command line login but I can't start another gui session......any idea??
[23:29] <Edranom> I just installed ubuntu server 10.10 and smuxi-server. I can't run smuxi-server as the normal user, only as root. what should I do?
[23:30] <eamon> llutz: that program didn't help. My computer isn't able to display much of anything. You said something about locales. Is there something I could configure there?
[23:32] <sidein> any thoughts as to what would cause ubuntu to fully recognize the sound card, but not get any sound at all?
[23:32] <jeffreyf> hello ctl-alt-f8 as well as ctl-alt-f9 shows a blinking cursor.  All the other tty's allow for command line login but can not start another x session......any idea??
[23:33] <llutz> eamon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[23:33] <adrian15> jeffreyf: They are usually reserved so that you can start X11 sessions on them.
[23:33] <memphiz> where are drivers stored?? for example wifi drivers?
[23:34] <jeffreyf> adrian15...is what I am trying to do.  I get a blinking cursor in the upper left.
[23:34] <adrian15> jeffreyf: Did you try: xinit -- :1          ?
[23:35] <eamon> llutz: I'm not on ubuntu sorry
[23:35] <jeffreyf> adrian15 "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[23:35] <adrian15> jeffreyf: With sudo
[23:35] <eamon> llutz: noone will help me in #gentoo
[23:36] <eamon> llutz: here is the output of locale... http://paste.pocoo.org/show/364610/
[23:36] <magn3ts> How can I remap Ctrl + Winkey in my keyboard layout?
[23:36] <pigimanH> hey, I have 3 OS on my computer , unbuntu , ubuntu server and windows 7. I`m using grab. I want to uninstall only my ubuntu and keep using ubuntu server + windows 7 with GRAB. how can I do it?
[23:36] <jon__> My friend is installing ubuntu 10.10 on his mac, and he's doing the setup thing, making his login account and password but it won't let him hit forward.  Any ideas as to why?
[23:36] <llutz> eamon: then reconfigure your locales in gentoo-manner (however that is, i never used it)
[23:37] <adrian15> pigimanH: Just reinstall ubuntu server's grub.
[23:37] <jeffreyf> adrian15, with sudo, it blanks the screen with a small white terminal in the upper left
[23:37] <itaylor57> jon__: username needs to be in lower case
[23:37] <adrian15> jeffreyf: That's an X session
[23:37] <pigimanH> adrian15 - I just need to reinstall the grab? what about the partitions of ubuntu ?
[23:37] <llutz> eamon: UTF-8 should be right in most cases
[23:37] <Sorais> hi
[23:37] <jon__> thanks
[23:37] <Sorais> i have some problem here
[23:38] <yagoo> jon__, thought u were asking for pc before
[23:38] <adrian15> pigimanH: If you do not delete it but just reformat it it's ok
[23:38] <jon__> It was pc before, my friend is triple booting on a mac
[23:38] <yagoo> jon__, he'll need refit for that
[23:38] <pigimanH> I want to use all ubuntu partitions for my windows 7
[23:38] <Sorais> i just start my notebook and apear this screen Memtest86 v4.00
[23:38] <jeffreyf> adrian15: OK....thought that would give another gui?
[23:38] <adrian15> jeffreyf: Welll
[23:38] <Sorais> somebody can help me ?
[23:38] <eamon> ok llutz thank you. hopefully i can figure out what to do
[23:39] <jon__> I think he has it all figured out, he just couldnt finish the ubuntu installation
[23:39] <adrian15> jeffreyf: In gnome there is an option that says: Login as a new user (Or something like it)... this actually enables a new X11 session
[23:39] <adrian15> jeffreyf: And this X11 session is found on ctrl+alt+f8 or ctrl+alt+f9
[23:39] <llutz> jeffreyf: "startx -- :1"
[23:40] <pigimanH> adrian15: I want to use all ubuntu partitions for my windows 7
[23:40] <adrian15> pigimanH: All ubuntu partitions except the ubuntu server ones I suppose?
[23:40] <pigimanH> adrian15: yes
[23:41] <memphiz> where are drivers stored?
[23:41] <yagoo> memphiz, in the kernel image and in modules
[23:41] <adrian15> pigimanH: If you do not want to have one partition for windows instead of several ones it's ok. I mean if you do not modify partition layout is ok.
[23:41] <Jasonn> Ok, how about this, I want a certain interface to JUST handle 5.* IP addresses, can I do this
[23:42] <pecar> hi how i remove a driver of a tv tuner adapter
[23:42] <llutz> memphiz: most drivers are kernel modules, /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[23:42] <jeffreyf> adrian15: thanks...I think I misunderstood the concept
[23:42] <merryman540> Does this channel help with legacy? Ubuntu specifically 8.04?
[23:42] <RussellAlan> hey guys im trying to run sudo mono
[23:42] <RussellAlan> but the app says something about visual basic.
[23:42] <Jasonn> merryman540: Its too outdated
[23:42] <adrian15> jeffreyf: What did you want to do in the first place ?
[23:42] <RussellAlan> anyone know what builds i need?
[23:42] <Jasonn> merryman540: Or is it lts?
[23:43] <pigimanH> adrian15: I didn't understand what you ment.... how can I take only ubuntu's partition and add it to windows partition without destorying my BOOT GRAB
[23:43] <yagoo> RussellAlan, gambas2 is a good alternative to visualbasic
[23:43] <merryman540> Jasonn I think it's been lts up til now
[23:43] <RussellAlan> yagoo, will that let me run it?
[23:43] <jeffreyf> another session separate from the default logging in with the same user
[23:43] <yagoo> RussellAlan, i don/t know about mono
[23:44] <tripelb> I just never understand the control-find. I want to search the file system for something. I have no idea what the "scope" of the search is.
[23:44] <tripelb> or even search my user.
[23:44] <adrian15> Jasonn: eth0:0 , eth0:1 , I do not know how it was called... vlans.... but you can also try bridged mode... I do not know if there are other ways of doing it.
[23:44] <Jasonn> adrian15: How do i bridge them?
[23:45] <larious> I have installed openvpn successfully on my Ubuntu, but dont know how to configure it
[23:45] <merryman540> My problem is that when I change Visual effects from the none setting (in order to run wobbly windows etc) my terminal windows becomes bleeched or whited out with no menu bar.
[23:45] <RussellAlan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/588750/
[23:45] <Jasonn> larious: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html
[23:45] <adrian15> pigimanH: If you want to merge ubuntu desktop partitions into windows 7 then probably the partition numbering is going to change. So even if you reinstall ubuntu server's grub you might need to regenerate its grub.cfg file.
[23:45] <gmachine_24> tripelb, when I want to find something I do a locate / in a terminal and then type locate xxxx whatever it is I'm looking for
[23:45] <memphiz> llutz thanks
[23:45] <gmachine_24> tripelb, probably not the most eloquent of effective
[23:45] <Jasonn> adrian15: How do i bridge them?
[23:46] <gmachine_24> *or
[23:46] <tripelb> I just never understand the control-find. I want to search the file system for something. I have no idea what the "scope" of the search is. IN GUI.
[23:46] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, in this one java app I'm helping with, I'm trying to track down an ImageFormatException, but the stack trace only seems to go 5 levels deep, back to ImageFetcher.run, which is Java code. How do i figure out where this exception is coming from in my code?
[23:46] <merryman540> The only way I can restore the terminal window for use again is to return my Visual effects setting to none : (
[23:46] <tripelb> control-find is in the gui
[23:46] <pigimanH> adrian15: oh...
[23:47] <awakening> I was wondering if someone could help me install java and flash plugins on ubuntu...
[23:47] <jordotech> hello
[23:47] <awakening> Hi
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> awakening, what are you on amd64
[23:47] <merryman540> If no-one can help here maybe someone knows if there is a channel for ubuntu 804 help?
[23:47] <awakening> I believe so
[23:47] <jordotech> how can i view http requests live on my ubuntu server?
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> awakening what version do you use
[23:47] <awakening> 10
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> ok
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> awakening you have ff 64bit
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> firefox
[23:48] <awakening> yeah
[23:50] <adrian15> Jasonn: http://acidborg.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/how-to-configure-a-network-bridge-in-debian-ubuntu/   This might help, ubuntu wiki howtos do not convince me.
[23:52] <adrian15> pigimanH: But maybe I am wrong about partition numbering change. I recommend you to reinstall ubuntu server's grub to the mbr before doing anything if you do not know how to access your systems when you cannot boot from the hard disk.
[23:52] <larious> Need some one to help me on how to complie yf
[23:52] <linuxuz3r> awakening, the flash plugin on the repo does not work?
[23:53] <Jasonn> adrian15: And if I use wlan1 to connect to the internet, I would replace the first eth0 with wlan1?
[23:53] <awakening> i wasn't able to get it to, linuxuz3r
[23:53] <linuxuz3r> try it
[23:54] <adrian15> Jasonn: Yes.
[23:54] <Jasonn> thanks
[23:55] <merryman540> Anyone any ideas how to fix bleached out terminal window when I change my Appearances Visual effects setting from None?
[23:55] <adrian15> Jasonn: Do you want these ips to be seen from outside or not?
[23:55] <Jasonn> adrian15: No
[23:55] <th0r> merryman540: adjust the transparency?
[23:56] <awakening> linuxuz3r, I assume you mean Flash Plugin from Ubuntu Software Center...?
[23:56] <edbian> Can I file a bug in Ubuntu without running the actual OS?  (at launchpad.net)
[23:56] <adrian15> Jasonn: So bridge is fine. It is like having some extra local lans.
[23:56] <merryman540> thor which/where transparency setting??
[23:56] <pam61> anyone know how to set a vnc server (x11vnc) to run at startup?
[23:56] <linuxuz3r> awakening, from synaptics repo
[23:56] <tripelb> gmachine_24 thanks for the hint abotu the terminal and locate. TIL]
[23:57] <th0r> merryman540: I don't use advanced graphics as it slows things down...so not sure but I think it is in the window menu for the terminal.
[23:57] <RussellAlan> whats the shell command to rename something?
[23:58] <adrian15> RussellAlan: !mv
[23:58] <edbian> RussellAlan: mv
[23:58] <edbian> darn
[23:58] <itaylor57> RussellAlan: mv <oldfilename> <newfilename>
[23:58] <merryman540> thor ok but you see I can't see any part of the menu in the terminal because it's bleached out maybe if I right or left click in the window...?
[23:58] <RussellAlan> edbian, so mv filename newfilename ?
[23:58] <awakening> linuxuz3r, ok synaptics repo, what's fastest way to access what you're talking about?
[23:58] <edbian> RussellAlan: yes...
[23:58] <edbian> RussellAlan: itaylor57 just said that
[23:59] <Jasonn> hmm


[09:00] <ricotz> hello :), is it possible that this is a launchpad/infra problem rather than a snapcraft bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapcraft/+bug/2046156
[09:00] -ubottu:#launchpad- Launchpad bug 2046156 in snapcraft (Ubuntu) "Fails to parse build output and freezes indefinitely" [Critical, New]


[00:27] <yofel> when you try to open https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/709365 without sufficient permissions (the bug is private), you get a 'Lost something?' Error. Shouldn't that be Permission denied?
[00:35] <tsimpson> yofel: it's a new "feature", private bugs are so private you don't even know they exist
[00:35] <yofel> that's.. erm... ...
[00:36] <yofel> really unhelpful if you bug gets auto-duped by apport to a bug that doesn't exist you know?
[00:36] <yofel> *your bug
[00:37] <tsimpson> yep, the bot doesn't like it much either
[00:38] <yofel> esp. since you can still see the bug in the packages bug listing
[00:38] <bradh> well, auto-dupe to a private bug sounds wrong.
[00:38] <yofel> it's what apport does, there is some discussion how to improve it but without any real solution
[00:39] <yofel> is there a bug open about this? Or should I not bother to file one?
[00:41] <tsimpson> it was reported a few times I think, but it's a policy they want to stick with
[00:41] <tsimpson> "if you can't see it, it doesn't exist"
[00:42] <yofel> ah well, we'll get used to it I guess...
[00:43] <lifeless> yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/764414 - real solution, planned, just needs implementing
[00:44] <yofel> I've obviously slacked at reading my bugmail... (I'm subsribed to apport mail...)
[00:46] <lifeless> even before we changed private bugs to consistently 404, we had lots of confused users
[00:46] <lifeless> asking why they couldn't see their bug et
[00:46] <lifeless> c
[21:58] <dAnjou> hi, can i create a PPA that just contain some other PPAs?