[15:37] <It_2927> okay
[15:37] <It_2927> im on 11.10
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> It_2927  04 = the 4th month, april
[15:37] <It_2927> Yep
[15:38] <dell> It_2927: #ubuntu+1 can give you all the info on the new release
[15:38] <It_2927> okay
[15:38] <It_2927> Thanks
[15:38] <yzhd> I get ERROR, unable to satisfy all contraints on the partition
[15:38] <dell> It_2927: np
[15:39] <hubertus_> Shinobi: take a look at iwatch
[15:39] <PeaceMaker> Is it possible to backup the system disk of a live system?
[15:39] <It_2927> I use xfce and have modified the system alot so i'll probably be waiting till the official release of 12.04
[15:40] <rodhash> Guys... How can I mount the VGs / FS located in other partition? I have a dual boot with ubuntu and red hat... any idea pls?
[15:40] <It_2927> hmm
[15:40] <It_2927> can you be a little more specific
[15:40] <It_2927> ?
[15:40] <wylde> !info incron | Shinobi_
[15:40] <helo1> If I have ssh access to an Ubuntu server flavor, is there a way to install a gui and launch it remotely (vnc?)?
[15:40] <zykotick9> rodhash: what is VGs?
[15:40] <PeaceMaker> Or any other operating systems offer this feature, snapshot backup of live system ?
[15:40] <rodhash> VG == Volume Group
[15:41] <It_2927> helo1 yes
[15:41] <zykotick9> rodhash: ahhh LVM - something i know nothing about ;)  sorry to bother ya.
[15:41] <tomvolek> hi, a newbie , how can i find my dns server ?   ifconfig doesnt show it
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> helo1  I'm on a remote debian pc as we speak, controlled with ubuntu
[15:41] <It_2927> but you will need to get the software
[15:41] <It_2927> to connect
[15:41] <It_2927> and set it up
[15:41] <It_2927> but im pretty sure its possible by way of vnc
[15:41] <yzhd> device for boot loader installation, which one shall I select_
[15:41] <zykotick9> !enter | It_2927
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> helo1  ssh to the remote pc and type apt-get install whatever-the-debian-gui-is-named
[15:42] <yzhd> dev sda dev sda1 dv sd2 _
[15:42] <It_2927> Okay, i will remember that in the future, ubottu.
[15:42] <Shinobi_> hubertus: tx
[15:42] <PeaceMaker> helo1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:42] <yzhd> anyone __
[15:43] <helo1> After installing a GUI with apt-get, how can I launch a remote session to it?
[15:43] <Shinobi_> wylde: Ubottu: I looked into incron, but from what I understand, it cannot monitor a directory structure, just a directory. Is this correct?
[15:43] <It_2927> or -  sudo bash then apt-get install (program)
[15:43] <zykotick9> It_2927: "sudo bash" is a terrible suggestion - just sayin'
[15:43] <mbeierl> tomaw, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> helo1  type with gnome-panel and nautilus
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> helo1  with gnome-panel and nautilus
[15:43] <It_2927> It sets you as root via. terminal
[15:44] <Xeli> Hey, I've added an ftp share via nautilus, where is this share mounted on my filesystem? if it is at all
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> Xeli  type mount to find out
[15:44] <PeaceMaker> helo1, an easy way is to use freenx
[15:44] <zykotick9> Xeli: you probably won't find it :(  good luck.
[15:44] <wylde> Shinobi_: with the proper settings it can, I believe. It may require Inotify as well.
[15:44] <sheenzz> hey i tryed to updated my pc and a error came up saying memory something something
[15:44] <It_2927> In my mind, thats incredibly useful due to the fact you dont have to keep typing sudo and your password alot of times...
[15:45] <Xeli> MonkeyDust: ah good one, thanks
[15:45] <zykotick9> It_2927: you are wrong.  "sudo -i" if you REALLY need a root terminal
[15:45] <PeaceMaker> or reboot then start vnc server.
[15:45] <Xeli> zykotick9: its on ~/.gvfs :)
[15:45] <hubertus_> Xeli: should be in ~/.gvfs
[15:45] <zykotick9> Xeli: ahh, gvfs wasn't installed be default for a while - i missed it greatly
[15:45] <PeaceMaker> Is it possible to backup the system disk of a live system?  Or any other operating systems offer this feature, snapshot backup of a live system?
[15:45] <It_2927> lmao it does the exact same thing
[15:46] <It_2927> root@(hostname)
[15:46] <zykotick9> It_2927: you are wrong.
[15:46] <zykotick9> !wfm > It_2927
[15:46] <It_2927> Okay.
[15:48] <Dj_FlyBy> Ive changed the power settings so that the PC stops turning the monitor off and going into sleep mode, but it is still happening regardless. Is there something I am missing here?
[15:49] <yzhd> guys, is swap recommened _
[15:49] <bastidrazor> Dj_FlyBy: there are two places you have to set that. oddly enough. power settings and.. let me find it
[15:49] <ruud_> Ik heb al een paar dagen dat het netwerk slecht is bij jullie, kan dat want ik heb 82% bereik
[15:49] <zykotick9> bastidrazor: and screensaver i believe?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> ruud_  verkeerd kannal, type /j #ubuntu-nl
[15:50] <bastidrazor> wait.. i'm on 12.04 and the menus have chagned a bit. :|
[15:50] <It_2927> what do they look like bastidrazor?
[15:51] <roasted> Question - is there a way to get my programs to list a-z in the unity menu?
[15:51] <bastidrazor> Dj_FlyBy: mine shows under Brightness and Lock in 12.04.. its something similiar in 11.10
[15:51] <Xabster> Does IDEA have a Gui builder for swing?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Xabster  what's IDEA exactly?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> and swing?
[15:52] <Xabster> wrong channel, sorry
[15:53] <hubertus_> Xabster: yes it has
[15:53] <linuxnewb> GUYS, IM GOING TO INSTALL UBUNTU. HOW MUCH SWAP SHOULD I HAVE
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> caps
[15:53] <bastidrazor> linuxnewb: equal what RAM you have.
[15:53] <linuxnewb> sorry
[15:53] <linuxnewb> how much swap should i have
[15:54] <zykotick9> linuxnewb: a little more then RAM if you want to use hibernate
[15:54] <linuxnewb> I have 3gb ram
[15:54] <linuxnewb> would 5 gb swap be to much
[15:55] <hubertus_> once it was said to use double the ram size for swap iirc
[15:55] <linuxnewb> so i need 6 gb swap
[15:56] <zykotick9> hubertus_: that's a bit of an old rule at this point
[15:56] <hubertus_> but i believe it was before we had gigs of ram - but anyway more than ram for hibernate
[15:56] <linuxnewb> ok
[15:57] <linuxnewb> how much would you recommend
[15:57] <linuxnewb> i have 3 gb ram
[15:57] <linuxnewb> would 5 gb ram swap be ok
[15:57] <NewWorld> linuxnewb:  Maybe you should have no swap since you have so much RAM.
[15:57] <zykotick9> linuxnewb: we can't really say for sure (depends what you are doing).  but most likely yes.
[15:58] <zykotick9> NewWorld: no swap is a BAD idea - makes your system slower
[15:58] <linuxnewb> Im going to compile cm7 build android roms
[15:58] <linuxnewb> 3 gb swap would be enough
[15:58] <linuxnewb> _
[15:58] <NewWorld> zykotick9:  How's that? I have had no swap and only 2GB of RAM for 2 years now. What's the point of swap if the RAM never goes over capacity?
[15:59] <linuxnewb> fine... Im going for 2gb swap
[15:59] <linuxnewb> thanks guys
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> me too, i've disabled swap
[15:59] <linuxnewb> does swap make the pc slower _
[15:59] <sipior> NewWorld: holding memory reservations that are unallocated.
[15:59] <zykotick9> linuxnewb: no, faster.
[15:59] <linuxnewb> ok
[15:59] <linuxnewb> do you think 2 gb is enough
[16:00] <TorbenBeta> Is there a command which shows the cpu usage of a program like system monitor?
[16:00] <bastidrazor> linuxnewb: do 5gb and be done with it. you're going in circles
[16:00] <helo1> top
[16:00] <NewWorld> sipior:  What reserves unallocated memory? My RAM rarely goes above 1GB used
[16:00] <helo1> TorbenBeta: top
[16:00] <TorbenBeta> Thanks
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> TorbenBeta  or htop
[16:00] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: "top" by default.  "htop" is an improved version
[16:01] <helo1> What does htop add to top
[16:01] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, should I install htop? Is it much better than top?
[16:01] <NewWorld> TorbenBeta:  yes much much better
[16:01] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: htop is IMO much better yes
[16:01] <a-saint> hello guys is blackbuntu supported on this channel
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> "Htop is an ncursed-based process viewer similar to top, but it allows one to scroll the list vertically and horizontally to see all processes and their full command lines."
[16:02] <sipior> NewWorld: most applications reserve more memory than they eventually require. the swap is not used, in the sense that data is written to disk. it is used to move empty reservations out of memory so that they do not interfere with other applications.
[16:02] <Dr_willis> a-saint,  no.
[16:02] <zykotick9> a-saint: no, only official releases
[16:02] <helo1> Awesome.
[16:03] <NewWorld> hmm interesting, I'll read up on that
[16:04] <helo1> JUst installed htop
[16:05] <swex> hi there! question if I have 2 modules both supports the same WIFI usb dongle, how to choose which one will handle this device?
[16:05] <helo1> Amazing. Wish I found it sooner
[16:05] <hiptobecubic> In 10.04 11.04 or 11.10 or 12.04 both kubuntu and ubuntu:  After choosing a language during install, the keyboard stops working. It works to choose the language and then stops.
[16:06] <Falcon> Can anyone help with No sound issue.pc connected with HDMI. XBMCbuntu 11? can provide more details if you need reg my HW.
[16:06] <hiptobecubic> It's a usb keyboard.
[16:06] <moodboom> hey all - anyone boot up ubuntu on a macbook pro?  trying to set up my hybrid MBR and it's killing me :P
[16:07] <Dr_willis> Falcon,  many hdmi audio outs dont have supported drivers. id suggest checking the askubuntu.com site for your specific hardeare.. and we really dont support xbmcubuntu here.
[16:07] <swex> hiptobecubic, try some of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:07] <hiptobecubic> swex, thanks.
[16:09] <Falcon> thanks Dr_willis got no help over at #XBMC either. will try elsewhere.
[16:09] <hiptobecubic> swex, which part of 'some' :)
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> is there a website about LAMP security?
[16:09] <zhxk> hello, how to set locale LC_ALL=C?
[16:10] <moodboom> I'm using rEFInd, a fork of rEFIt.  i really don't understand why refind shows only mac os on the boot screen.  i'm only seeing Mac OS but i have ubuntu and windows partitions too
[16:10] <zhxk> hello, how to set locale on cli, let LC_ALL=C?
[16:12] <liang> who knows, where g_hash_table_lookup locates?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> is a LAMP server protected against sqlinjection?
[16:12] <hiptobecubic> Ok, apparently the keyboard is PS/2, not usb
[16:12] <species> lotuspsychje: sql injections are something for the programmer to worry about
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> species: the user installing a server cannot worry about security?
[16:13] <species> lotuspsychje: they can, but not in the case of sql injections
[16:13] <species> those are not a flaw in the server, they are a flaw in the code you write
[16:14] <species> the SQL interpreter cannot distinguish between injected code and intended code
[16:14] <hiptobecubic> The keyboard works at only the first page, when choosing a language. Then it stops
[16:14] <fartofagony> what texte editor is good to save text in asm format?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> species: ah, so even if you protect yourself, a flaw could be injected?
[16:14] <species> lotuspsychje: read this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_injection#Technical_Implementations
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> species: tnx lemme read
[16:15] <species> lotuspsychje: you need to understand how it works because you seem to have misconceptions
[16:15] <hiptobecubic> Ok, i'm getting more information over the phone....
[16:15] <species> its not like a buffer overflow attack where the server itself is at fault
[16:15] <Vinno> how do you list a directory in terminal??
[16:15] <hiptobecubic> Vinno, ls
[16:15] <a-saint> Dr_willis zykotick9 I see because joining blackbuntu channel had only me and another user i thought ubuntu might be the channel support
[16:15] <Vinno> thanks
[16:16] <Zaitzev> how can i logout of ubuntu using terminal, via ssh? system has froze, AGAIN.
[16:16] <zykotick9> a-saint: perhaps there isn't much in the way of support for blackbuntu?  wouldn't surprise me - level of support should be one factor in your choice of distros.
[16:16] <hiptobecubic> Zaitzev, "sudo shutdown -R now"
[16:16] <Zaitzev> it's getting ridiculous
[16:17] <Zaitzev> i dont want to shut down though.
[16:17] <hiptobecubic> APPARENTLY, after choosing a language it drops to tty, leaves a blinking cursor in the upper left and is totally unresponsive
[16:17] <terry420> can any one can help me install ubuntu 10.04lts on lifebook LH531 ?
[16:17] <hiptobecubic> Zaitzev, if i recall, perhaps... "sudo /etc/rc.inti/gdm stop"
[16:17] <moodboom> is anybody even using a macbook?
[16:18] <a-saint> zykotick9, right now am on ubuntu is there any pentesting tool package that is similar for blackbuntu I might install or any ubuntu supported pentesting release
[16:18] <fartofagony> what texte editor is good to save text in asm format?
[16:18] <zykotick9> a-saint: sorry, i have no idea.  not my area of expertise ;)
[16:18] <fartofagony> notepad++ is very good in windows, anyone know what is very good in linux?
[16:18] <Aciid> fartofagony: sublime text 2
[16:19] <Zaitzev> kinda difficult to do anything via ssh on my iphone lol
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> species: interesting, but would a LAMP server be safe or not to use?
[16:19] <a-saint> Zaitzev, you should get n900
[16:19] <fartofagony> Aciid: thanks. have to researsch just to make sure its not some random guy trolling
[16:20] <species> lotuspsychje: SQL injections are a fundamental weakness of string based query systems and it is impossible to secure a server against them.
[16:20] <Aciid> fartofagony: http://www.sublimetext.com/
[16:20] <Xabster> species, it is?
[16:20] <Aciid> this editor is serious biz
[16:20] <Zaitzev> what i should get is a linux distro that isn't causing constant problems every single day.
[16:20] <bastidrazor> hiptobecubic: since 10.04 'service' is in use. sudo service gdm stop  for example
[16:20] <species> the server only ever recieves a string, it doesnt know which parts are OK and which are injected.
[16:20] <iceman84x> hi all
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> species: lets say you iptable secure a server it still possible to inject?
[16:21] <species> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:21] <Xabster> Inject is a bad term here
[16:21] <Xabster> you're not injecting into anything
[16:21] <Xabster> you're just running a query
[16:21] <species> if you write a dodgy query string that is vulnerable to injections, the server has no way of knowing
[16:21] <Glacee> Use Mongodb instead :0
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> species: no wonder the whole world is getting hacked on injections
[16:22] <species> lotuspsychje: yep
[16:22] <Xabster> I don't understand your problems lotuspsychje/species
[16:22] <hubertus_> lotuspsychje: GreenSQL could be something to look at
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> species: any sql package without flaw codes in it?
[16:22] <Xabster> You can just escape your input...? isn't that enough?
[16:22] <species> Xabster: he is asking how to secure a LAMP server against injections and im trying to tell him he needs to secure his own code
[16:22] <Xabster> OH
[16:23] <Xabster> right, yeah, securing the server doesn't make much sense
[16:23] <species> but he keeps coming back to the server itself with more questions
[16:23] <species> its like trying to secure your door against the wrong person turning the key
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> ok ok i got it
[16:23] <bastidrazor> great analogy.
[16:25] <species> lotuspsychje: a good practice is to wrap all your queries in a function that takes the paramaters and forms a query string internally, preferably using an API designed for that purpose
[16:25] <species> never write a query string directly
[16:26] <a-saint> someone knows a penetration testing distro supported by ubuntu
[16:26] <species> but this is going beyond the scope of this channel now
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> species: isnt there like a package to protect the code?
[16:26] <species> lotuspsychje: an SQL injection isnt done by modifying your code, its done by putting things into data that the user can enter
[16:26] <species> lotuspsychje: a classic example is a login form
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> brb
[16:27] <species> use the username of whoever you want to hack and set the password to an injection string such as those shown on the wiki page
[16:27] <madurax86> hello is net_prio cgroup support is in ubuntu?
[16:28] <Zaitzev> I've learned one thing, and that is that if a program, for example XBMC, or Minecraft (Java), freezes up, it freezes completely. Killing the process does not help at all, I have to restart the PC.
[16:28] <UnluckyUser324> Got a HUGE problem. Power supply went down and now when i boot up i get "init not found" and nothing happens. Iwe changed the powersupply, systems works. But how do i fix my hd ?
[16:28] <hiptobecubic> Zaitzev, depends on why it's freezing. I can't say I've had that problem.
[16:28] <species> you need to kill it properly using top
[16:29] <species> just closing the window doesnt always kill it, especially if its hung
[16:29] <Zaitzev> hiptobecubic: I have absolutely no idea what's happening. It's random, happens regardless of whether I'm interacting at the moment, or doing nothing.
[16:29] <madurax86> Zaitzev: if the whole system freezes and doesnt respond to alt+b+sysrq(prnt scr) then u have a hardware problem
[16:30] <escott> Zaitzev, you could xkill it and disconnect it from the X server
[16:30] <Zaitzev> madurax86: I can SSH in and stuff. Like I did just moments ago asking about logging out via ssh.
[16:30] <Zaitzev> Which of course didn't work at all.
[16:30] <Zaitzev> escott: What, xkill?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  with xkill the mousepointer turns into a process killing pointer
[16:31] <Zaitzev> :o
[16:31] <madurax86> Zaitzev: then its a minor problem of software, your kernel is up and a good amount of ubuntu is running, only the screen has frozen;might be due to drivers for xorg or xorg itself..may be you are better off with a fresh install
[16:31] <Zaitzev> madurax86: this IS a fresh install, just days old.
[16:32] <madurax86> Zaitzev: is this 12.04? :P its still on testing
[16:32] <escott> Zaitzev, it doesn't directly do anything to kill the process, just severs the connection to the X server. most programs are unable to handle that and segfault shortly thereafter
[16:32] <Zaitzev> madurax86: No it's 11.10
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> species: ok mate tnx for info
[16:32] <Zaitzev> escott: sounds dangerous >:)
[16:33] <madurax86> Zaitzev: I see, how often and when does it freeze, how can you reproduce a freeze?
[16:33] <Zaitzev> madurax86: Can't really reproduce. It happens randomly, and it happens whether I'm interacting at the moment (moving the mouse, clicking mouse or keyboard), or simply looking at the program.
[16:34] <escott> UnluckyUser324, you might need to boot a livecd and run fsck on the filesystems
[16:34] <madurax86> Zaitzev: is this a notebook?
[16:34] <Zaitzev> no, desktop
[16:35] <UnluckyUser324> escott: Will a permenent hd do ? Im running lastest ubuntu on it. Could just pop in the bad hd and run any tools from my new hd
[16:35] <madurax86> Zaitzev: can you post the dmesg after a freeze?
[16:35] <souza> Hello folks.
[16:35] <UnluckyUser324> escott: And thx so much for answering, it means the worold
[16:35] <escott> UnluckyUser324, your could try, you would have to switch your boot devices in the bios
[16:35] <Zaitzev> madurax86: since the freeze happened just moments ago, can I somehow find out where in dmesg that happened?
[16:36] <UnluckyUser324> escott: Sure np. ubuntu have a disctool as well, might just try that as well. got the commands you mentioned under control
[16:36] <escott> !sysrq | Zaitzev (don't know if you have been sent this)
[16:36] <souza> i'm having a problem in ubuntu i cannot download some packages, it prints a stack with several problems like this >> " Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main libxslt1.1 amd64 1.1.26-8ubuntu1   Temporary failure resolving 'br.archive.ubuntu.com'"
[16:37] <Zaitzev> escott: I'm getting really tired of rebooting the system every time something freezes. I've rebooted 4 times today alone.
[16:37] <madurax86> Zaitzev: well depends if you restarted the dmesg just shows u the msgs for the current boot not the prior then u should see /var/log/kern.log
[16:37] <xangua> souza: pangolin is not supported here
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> souza  precise is in development and not ready yet, type /j #ubuntu+1 for support
[16:37] <a-saint> someone knows a penetration testing distr supported by ubuntu
[16:37] <escott> Zaitzev, that might ensure that your kernel ring buffer if flushed to the dmesg.log if you cannot access it otherwise
[16:37] <souza> Ok, thanks guys
[16:38] <a-saint> madurax86, isn't this a vga driver issue
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> a-saint: backtrack has an ubuntu version
[16:38] <madurax86> a-saint: it can be, logs will explain i guess
[16:38] <mukti> Is there a site where I can search packages that are available? I know I can use apt-cache search, but I was looking for a web based search
[16:38] <escott> mukti, packages.ubuntu.com
[16:39] <mukti> escott: thanks
[16:39] <hubertus_> a-saint: blackbuntu
[16:39] <madurax86> can any one tell me netprio cgroup support is compiled in ubuntu 12.04?
[16:39] <a-saint> lotuspsychje, I have backtrack r2 and is ubuntu based i know but I want something supported by Ubuntu as official ubuntu
[16:39] <mobiusstriper> hi all, is there such an option as "install as a dependencies" in aptitude/apt-get?
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> mukti  try appnr.com
[16:40] <a-saint> hubertus_, I can't even download the torrent from there website
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !precise | madurax86
[16:40] <nuiok> hey
[16:40] <Zaitzev> I bet if I reinstall Ubuntu, it'll install random different programs then too.
[16:41] <nuiok> Guys i'm a newbie to the entire backtrack/linux world can anyone be my mentor :$
[16:41] <nuiok> ?
[16:41] <madurax86> lotuspsychje: :)
[16:41] <xangua> nuiok: cacktrack is not supported here
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  not "random"
[16:41] <xangua> backtrack*
[16:41] <hubertus_> a-saint: and the .iso from sf ?
[16:41] <chrislsp> YouTube can be you mentor
[16:41] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:41] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:42] <nuiok> Youtube is time consuming , I rather someone teaching one on one just the basics
[16:42] <Zaitzev> MonkeyDust: Well, what is it then? Because I started using Ubuntu a little over a month ago, and I have (re)installed Ubuntu twice since then. And all 3 times there has been differences in what got installed. WITHOUT my explicit input/choice
[16:42] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:42] <a-saint> hubertus_, isn't this a 64bit
[16:42] <cuddylier> Why it it not giving permission to what I want to use it with?
[16:42] <xangua> nuiok: i don't thin someone will take you and teach you personally here
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  idd, that sounds strange
[16:43] <nuiok> I realize :/
[16:43] <chrislsp> My dear friend, one on one is the king of relationship between you and the pc.. anything else will drive you away from what you wanna accomplish with backtrack ;)
[16:43] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:43] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:43] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:43] <Zaitzev> MonkeyDust: That plus the fact that things like Flash doesn't work correctly, I can't get the microphone working (even tried with alsamixer), and a bunch of other minor annoyances.
[16:44] <nuiok> well @xangua can you atleast tell me how to move around in the terminal of backtrack?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> Zaitzev  everything works fine here, so ubuntu is not to blame
[16:44] <xangua> nuiok: i said again, backtrack is not supported here, this is Ubuntu support
[16:44] <nuiok> oh
[16:44] <hubertus_> a-saint: i see . but the KDE edition seems to be 32bit - strange %-)
[16:44] <nuiok> Can i get the irc name of a backchat chatroom?
[16:44] <Zaitzev> MonkeyDust: It's weird how it turns out slightly different, and the hardware is not the issue, everything works fine in Windows.
[16:44] <xangua> !backtrack | nuiok
[16:44] <hubertus_> a-saint: but does it matter ?
[16:44] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:45] <a-saint> hubertus_,  I don't use KDE
[16:45] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:45] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:45] <a-saint> hubertus_,  I don't have 64bit computer / laptop for now
[16:45] <Pici> fartofagony: What do you mean by "it doesn't work" what happens instead?
[16:46] <Xabster> cuddylier, what does that tell you?
[16:48] <johnjacobjinger> quick question about LAMP... i want to install osTicket which according to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/staff-blog/item/8-osticket-installation-on-ubuntu-1004-lts requires LAMP
[16:48] <a-saint> chrislsp I have backtrack on my sda and want an another pen test dist for my xternal SD
[16:48] <johnjacobjinger> i already have Apache installed... if i install lamp-server will that conflict with my apache
[16:50] <cuddylier> I have a mysql server on Ubuntu, When I use the database locally I get this error "Access denied for user 'ryan'@'@'localhost'
[16:50] <cuddylier> Error is on the right >>>>
[16:50] <johnjacobjinger> cuddylier you need to edit the mysql config to allow that user
[16:50] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:50] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:50] <cuddylier> How?
[16:50] <cuddylier> Where is the config file?
[16:51] <cuddylier> Or what is the command?
[16:51] <Pici> johnjacobjinger: LAMP is just an acronym for a set of server applications.  If you already have Apache installed, then you just need php and mysql.  The lamp-server task will not override your apache install (assuming that you used our repositories to install apache)
[16:51] <Pici> fartofagony: You never answered my question.
[16:51] <cuddylier> And once I type the command what do I type to make sure it picks up the changes?
[16:51] <johnjacobjinger> Pici i did i was just making sure Insall lamp wouldnt mess it up
[16:52] <cuddylier> johnjacobjinger
[16:52] <johnjacobjinger> let me look cuddylier give me a minute
[16:52] <Xabster> cuddylier, this is a mysql problem and this channel is #ubuntu
[16:52] <cuddylier> Okay
[16:52] <cuddylier> Thanks so much
[16:53] <cuddylier> But, I thought since it's to do with ubuntu
[16:53] <cuddylier> I'll see if John has the answer..
[16:53] <cuddylier> If not I'll go to their channel
[16:53] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:53] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:54] <Pici> fartofagony: What do you mean by "it doesn't work" what happens instead?
[16:54] <ana__> 1
[16:55] <It_2927> I think he/she means that it saves as a normal text file rather than the desired format.
[16:55] <cuddylier> What is the mysql channel?
[16:55] <Pici> cuddylier: #mysql, oddly enough
[16:55] <chrislsp> !mysql
[16:55] <cuddylier> lol
[16:56] <cuddylier> I'll wait for john first :)
[16:56] <ana__> 1
[16:56] <Pici> ana__: can we help you?
[16:56] <m3xia> its like i put on charge and im using the laptop some time and when i remove the cable its only 26m left  my battery is addicted but lasts 56m on windows
[16:56] <m3xia> can someone help?
[16:57] <eric> can someone tell me how to install this? packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-headers-2.6.38-13-generic
[16:57] <cuddylier> The channel isnt #mysql :(
[16:57] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:57] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:57] <Pici> cuddylier: Yes it is.
[16:57] <escott> !work | fartofagony
[16:58] <chrislsp> m3xia I'm not sure if theres a solution to that, I had tha same problem and didn't find anything Its just how ubuntu works i guess
[16:58] <cuddylier> It says "Cannot connect to channel #mysql"
[16:58] <It_2927> cuddylier, you're name says it all
[16:58] <species> i think he wants it to become executable
[16:58] <a-saint> eric apt-get update ......... apt-get upgrade
[16:58] <cuddylier> Aw
[16:58] <Pici> !register | cuddylier
[16:58] <cuddylier> thanks
[16:58] <cuddylier> Ohh
[16:58] <Pici> cuddylier: read the topic next time.
[16:58] <Guest76005> sorry i meant this http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/linux-headers-2.6.38-13-generic/download
[16:58] <cuddylier> !register
[16:58] <Guest76005> need to know how to install that
[16:58] <cuddylier> lol
[16:58] <FloodBot1> cuddylier: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:58] <cuddylier> Sorry floodbot
[16:58] <johnjacobjinger> cuddylier: maybe this can help u with the sql issue:  http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMySQL.html
[16:59] <fartofagony> how do you save text with gedit in other formats? making the extension .asm doesnt work
[16:59] <fartofagony> anyone?
[16:59] <chrislsp> fartofagony I don't get it.. You open gedit, type, save as.. choose all files and type the extension your self :/
[16:59] <cuddylier> thanks
[16:59] <species> cuddylier: floodbot is a bot, in case that wasnt obvious
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> fartofagony  this is not strictly ubuntu, but maybe it helps http://paste.ubuntu.com/902479/
[16:59] <It_2927> :O!
[16:59] <ctusch> i have an old eee pc 901 (4 GB of disk space). is there a ubuntu version which isn't so large? i always have disk space problems and therefore can't upgrade to new releases etc.
[17:00] <It_2927> use haiku-os
[17:00] <johnjacobjinger> ctusch: hard drives are cheap now.. feel free to get a larger drive ;-)
[17:01] <m3xia> doensnt anyone has the same problem?
[17:01] <ctusch> lt_2927: seems to be in alpha state
[17:01] <escott> !minimal | ctusch
[17:01] <johnjacobjinger> :-\
[17:01] <It_2927> m3xia, if you can't find your answer in this irc channel, why not check ubuntu forums?
[17:02] <It_2927> Just because its in alpha, doesen't mean its bad
[17:02] <It_2927> It already has a flash player ported
[17:02] <ctusch> johnjacobjinger: i don't think i can change the ssd in this one
[17:02] <It_2927> ctusch: how so?
[17:02] <auronandace> It_2927: you can continue supporting him in #haiku
[17:03] <ctusch> escott: thanks, sounds promising
[17:03] <ctusch> lt_2927: IIRC it's soldered
[17:03] <escott> ctusch, it doesnt really help that much but its a base from which you can be more selective about packages
[17:03] <monser> hello there are some packages named generic and generic-pae
[17:03] <monser> what is the difference
[17:04] <It_2927> Maybe you should try ubuntu with a different desktop enviroment that takes up less space..
[17:04] <monser> what is pae
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> !pae
[17:04] <monser> !pae
[17:04] <auronandace> monser: physical address extension,
[17:04] <Amoz> !pae | monser
[17:04] <auronandace> monser: lets 32bit use more than 4gb of ram
[17:04] <monser> ok
[17:05] <ctusch> lt_2927 is this easy to change?
[17:05] <monser> i see
[17:05] <monser> generic can only use up to 4gb of ram, pae more
[17:05] <It_2927> ctusch there are pre-configured ones
[17:05] <It_2927> such as Lubuntu
[17:05] <It_2927> and Xubuntu
[17:05] <It_2927> these may be better options, but you could always try a lighter distro?
[17:05] <auronandace> monser: well, 3.2gb to be precise but yes
[17:06] <monser> auronandace:  thank you
[17:06] <auronandace> monser: usually it would be better to use 64bit than 32bit with pae
[17:06] <Dj_FlyBy> how come after adding NTFS partitions to fstab they are appearing twice in the Nautilus window?
[17:07] <ctusch> lt_2927: thought about it, but i think ubuntu is quite mature and works out of the box with my eee pc. i haven't had that much luck with other distros. i don't want to do any tinkering. :)
[17:07] <It_2927> you don't have too :)
[17:07] <It_2927> just use Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[17:08] <cuddylier> How do I send a message to the #mysql channel? Sorry to ask here, it says "Cannot send to channel #mysql"
[17:08] <It_2927> its just ubuntu with a different desktop enviroment..
[17:08] <Amoz> cuddylier, I need to join it I think
[17:08] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, what does your fstab entry look like
[17:08] <Amoz> cuddylier, /join #mysql
[17:08] <sacarlson> ctusch: eeepc was designed to support linux so likely it still will
[17:08] <ctusch> lt_2927: yeah sure, those ones i will try. :)
[17:08] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: paste here?
[17:08] <sl33k_> Any way in which I can open an xps file on ubuntu? googling shows otherwise
[17:08] <cuddylier> It says that error
[17:08] <auronandace> cuddylier: you using a registered nick?
[17:08] <cuddylier> No
[17:08] <escott> !paste | Dj_FlyBy
[17:08] <auronandace> cuddylier: you need to
[17:08] <cuddylier> How?
[17:09] <auronandace> cuddylier: you were given the link earlier
[17:09] <auronandace> !register | cuddylier
[17:09] <It_2927> ctusch, you also may want to try doing a custom install
[17:09] <It_2927> making the swap partition smaller.
[17:09] <species> cuddylier: some channels require you to register with freenode before you can enter
[17:10] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: ok so you want the whole fstab then? or just a line for the ntfs?
[17:10] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, whole fstab is best
[17:10] <ctusch> lt2927: i've already did that
[17:10] <Dj_FlyBy> ok
[17:10] <cuddylier> Okay
[17:10] <ctusch> 4 gb just isn't that much :|
[17:10] <It_2927> ctusch: these other alternative enviroments may give you a 2nd chance then
[17:10] <It_2927> if it really is so old
[17:11] <It_2927> Maybe Lubuntu is for you.
[17:11] <Amoz> Dj_FlyBy, my guess is that one instance is mounted because of fstab, and the other one is "auto-discovered" in the "Devices" list
[17:11] <auronandace> ctusch: you could get a 16gb usb stick
[17:12] <sacarlson> ctusch: I just upgraded to 4gb ram, thinking that was big as 512meg is all you really need
[17:12] <dev_> Hi I can't get mysql server to start - i've uninstall manually remove all mysql conf and dirs and still i get in the log /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)
[17:12] <ctusch> lt_2927: great, i will try them!
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> Dj_FlyBy  maybe you need not add it in fstab, clicking it in nautilus will do
[17:12] <ctusch> sacarlson: disk spac e:)
[17:12] <sacarlson> ctusch: oh for disk space 6gb is what I think I need
[17:12] <It_2927> ctusch: i hope my advice has helped
[17:13] <ctusch> auronandace: yeah sure, but i would prefer having it on my internal drive
[17:13] <Dj_FlyBy> MonkeyDust: don't want to click it to mount it. This machine will become headless. Just wondering now why it is there
[17:13] <matt__> hello
[17:13] <dev_> what else can  i do
[17:13] <ctusch> lt_2927: definitely! thank you!
[17:13] <It_2927> can linux be actually installed to a usb stick
[17:13] <It_2927> ?
[17:13] <ctusch> yep
[17:14] <It_2927> how so...
[17:14] <auronandace> !usb | It_2927
[17:14] <matt__> I have a drive shared on my xp pro computer that i would like to see on my ubuntu 11.10 laptop, any suggestions?
[17:14] <It_2927> Lol! i understand you can install it from them
[17:14] <tyler_d> It_2927: you would select it has your hard-disk during installation
[17:14] <It_2927> Ah
[17:14] <It_2927> that actually works?
[17:14] <tyler_d> It_2927: it does indeed
[17:14] <It_2927> ....im going to rule the world
[17:14] <Dj_FlyBy> it's just quite annoying to see this for 12 different hdd's; some of which have more than one partition
[17:15] <It_2927> with this new discovery
[17:15] <tyler_d> It_2927: you can even use a portable h/d if you would like
[17:15] <sacarlson> matt__: just mount it and start using it
[17:15] <It_2927> thats exactly my plan
[17:15] <It_2927> ;)
[17:15] <dev_> got it
[17:15] <dev_> permission issue on /var/lib/mysql
[17:15] <tyler_d> It_2927: limiting factor btw, is that the machine you plug it into has to support boot from usb
[17:15] <dev_> chown mysql:mysql
[17:16] <It_2927> the machine i have supports it
[17:16] <tyler_d> dev_: throw a -R for good measure
[17:16] <It_2927> all my machines do...
[17:16] <It_2927> i shall rule the universe...
[17:17] <nooblikespear> hi all
[17:17] <Dj_FlyBy> wow, pastebin is crawling like a snail trying to submit my post
[17:17] <It_2927> so let me get this straight... i can install linux to a usb stick...
[17:17] <nooblikespear> YES
[17:17] <auronandace> It_2927: yes
[17:17] <nooblikespear> i can't believe how awesome that is too
[17:17] <It_2927> This is impossible!
[17:17] <nooblikespear> blew my mind last year
[17:17] <It_2927> I have to try it and see for my self..
[17:18] <nooblikespear> you'll never go back
[17:18] <It_2927> i have about 5 usb devices
[17:18] <It_2927> 6 if you include my exernal hard drive
[17:18] <nooblikespear> aka you have 6 computers
[17:18] <nooblikespear> install 6 different distros
[17:18] <nooblikespear> gogo
[17:18] <tyler_d> It_2927: you should use a usb hub and softraid them then install linux
[17:18] <sacarlson> lt_2927: you can make one of you 5 usb devices 6 different verison of linux
[17:18] <tyler_d> It_2927: now that would be hot
[17:19] <It_2927> How do i softraid them?
[17:19] <It_2927> i have 2 usb devices with me that work
[17:19] <It_2927> ones big enough for 2 distros
[17:19] <escott> It_2927, like biosraid? usually not recommended, but dmraid supports some
[17:19] <It_2927> I don't understand
[17:19] <dev_> arggggghh it was mysqld safe mode which i got to run fine
[17:19] <sacarlson> lt_2927: never tried raiding several usb devices but I guess it can be done
[17:19] <It_2927> what is that?
[17:19] <dev_> but i can't run the normal mysql service
[17:20] <dev_> job failed start
[17:20] <It_2927> this... raid thing....
[17:20] <dev_> running on LTS mysql 5.1
[17:20] <tyler_d> It_2927: now your talking. get more into it and you can ask more questions
[17:20] <fernandocueva> what is the undelete options for linux
[17:20] <tyler_d> !mdm
[17:20] <auronandace> It_2927: redundant array or inexpensive disks
[17:20] <auronandace> of
[17:20] <escott> !undelete | fernandocueva
[17:20] <tyler_d> !mdmadm
[17:20] <NewWorld> fernandocueva:  libtrash
[17:21] <sacarlson> lt_2927: raid is just combining several hard disks to act as one with some modes acting as fail safe in some cases
[17:21] <It_2927> I see..
[17:21] <It_2927> i can combine my 2 usbs with me then
[17:21] <It_2927> how can i do this?
[17:21] <dev_> can anyone please help with mysql service i can't get it to start
[17:21] <auronandace> !raid | It_2927
[17:22] <FacedeProut> anybody can help with ubuntu 10.04 update/upgrade issues?
[17:22] <socket> hey, i've install php5 which doesnt seem to have mysql/mysqli support, how do i add it ?
[17:22] <sacarlson> lt_2927: it would get a bit complicated if booting from a usb device as the limits of bios booting usb has limits
[17:22] <ejv> of course it has mysql support
[17:22] <It_2927> like what
[17:22] <It_2927> the bios saying
[17:23] <escott> It_2927, once you boot the kernel it shouldn't matter how the raid devices are connected
[17:23] <It_2927> o.O
[17:23] <dooma09> Hello. I was able to pxe boot Ubuntu ISO. This entry from /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf: option domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>, caused this entry in /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver '<IP_ADDRESS>'.The single quote is causing DNS failure to browse internet. Manually removing the quote solves this issue. Any idea how to I get rid of the single quotes?
[17:23] <tyler_d> It_2927: mdmadm is the software raid configuration tool used by linux... but I cannot get ubotu to tell me anything about it.
[17:23] <sacarlson> lt_2927: too complicated in a one liner here but the standard  file system format for boot from usb is fat32
[17:24] <It_2927> so i need to change it to ext4?
[17:24] <socket> ejv: im trying to install piwik, which says "Piwik requires either the mysqli extension or both the PDO and pdo_mysql extensions" so........ it seems it's missing
[17:25] <sacarlson> tyler_d: you need info on mdmadm boot?
[17:25] <escott> It_2927, your bios likely won't boot a usb device that is not formatted in a special way. some bioses *might* boot a usb device treated as a usb mass storage but thats bios dependent
[17:25] <nooblikespear> Guys what session manager do you use? Do you stick with the default Unity?
[17:25] <dev_>  init: mysql pre-start process (15559) terminated with status 1
[17:25] <sorter> nope
[17:25] <sorter> gnome classic all the way
[17:25] <tyler_d> sacarlson: was trying to forward to It_2927
[17:25] <nooblikespear> I changed to xfce and it's just WONDERFUL
[17:25] <nooblikespear> Unity didn't do it for me GG
[17:26] <FacedeProut> I have the old 10.04 LTS Ubuntu I havent touched in a while on a 64bits machine. When I try to update or upgrade I get "Failed to fetch" or "Unable to connect" errors
[17:26] <nooblikespear> I tried Gnome  I got basically the same thing, same Dash etc
[17:26] <FacedeProut> Dist upgrade doesn't work either :(
[17:26] <tyler_d> FacedeProut: is it online?
[17:26] <Amoz> !offtopic | nooblikespear
[17:26] <FacedeProut> yes
[17:26] <nooblikespear> I had 10.04 in my old laptop too, it was perfect
[17:26] <auronandace> nooblikespear: unity and xfce are desktop environments (not session managers)
[17:26] <FacedeProut> I am online right now
[17:27] <escott> FacedeProut, switch mirrors
[17:27] <It_2927> im using xfce right now
[17:27] <ejv> your DNS sucking wind?
[17:27] <FacedeProut> is there a way to update mirrors?
[17:27] <nooblikespear> me too
[17:27] <tyler_d> It_2927: if you have 5 usb's I would suggest checking out raidz very nice option.
[17:27] <ejv> double check your DNS resolution / change your mirros
[17:27] <escott> FacedeProut, synaptic has a mirror selection tool
[17:27] <monser> to change?
[17:27] <FacedeProut> escott : thanks ill check that
[17:27] <ejv> s/mirros/mirrors/
[17:27] <sacarlson> lt_2927: you can play with expermental raid as I did in virtualbox
[17:27] <It_2927> tyler_d: I will look further into this "raid"
[17:28] <tyler_d> It_2927: raid = good clean fun
[17:28] <nooblikespear> Does anyone know the difference between Xfce session and Xubuntu session at the login screen options?
[17:28] <ejv> personally, i'd use the google DNS, residential ISP DNS is typically awful.
[17:28] <ejv> that or OpenDNS
[17:28] <It_2927> Getting usb's and Gparted ready
[17:28] <It_2927> Im doing some serious action ;D
[17:28] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: difference? they are as different as kde vs gnome so far as I thought.... what do you mean?
[17:28] <sacarlson> tyler_d: and with virtualbox you can experment with a raid  of 6 disk even if you only have 1 disk
[17:29] <nooblikespear> tyler_d, well I haven't tried the Xubuntu session, but I don't think I ever installed it. I just installed Xfce and Xubuntu is on the list
[17:29] <tyler_d> sacarlson: I haven't played with that so much, but thats excellent to know.
[17:29] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: wow that took long to submit....   --->   http://pastebin.com/YZEShU1Y
[17:29] <nooblikespear> tyler_d, that explains why it took so long to install Xfce, apparently I installed a whole new Operating System?
[17:29] <It_2927> oh and one thing
[17:29] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: xubuntu I would assume would be a generic stripped down version of X
[17:29] <It_2927> is it possible to dual boot
[17:29] <ejv> !enter | It_2927
[17:30] <It_2927> well
[17:30] <It_2927> triple boot
[17:30] <It_2927> 2 distros of linux, windows and nothing else, if so how can i do this?
[17:30] <tyler_d> It_2927: dual booting is normally something I personally avoid, but if you get windows on first then sure; don't see why not, but you cannot use the raid then right.
[17:30] <sacarlson> lt_2927: 10 boots 20 boots just more and smaller partitions
[17:30] <nooblikespear> Just got back to Ubuntu after a year in Windows, they have taken sucking into a whole new level with Unity
[17:30] <ejv> !offtopic | nooblikespear
[17:31] <nooblikespear> how is this offtopic??
[17:31] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: thats not really relevant? what did you want to change?
[17:31] <nooblikespear> and why do you always get so mad whenever someone mentions Unity and how much it sucks ass?
[17:31] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: have you attempted to use gnome-3
[17:31] <socket> hmm, i've reinstalled php5 and now i dont have mysql support, the php mysql driver is missing. any suggestions ? how do i make a clean install ?
[17:31] <nooblikespear> I tried gnome shell, I got basically the same thing
[17:31] <tyler_d> socket: of which one?
[17:31] <It_2927> ....guys
[17:31] <nooblikespear> then I tried Xfce and it seems perfect
[17:31] <socket> tyler_d: php5-gd
[17:31] <nooblikespear> after I customized it to look just like 10.04
[17:32] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, seems ok. is it storage-vault1 or 3 that is the problem?
[17:32] <It_2927> how can i triple boot - backtrack, Xubuntu AND windows 7.......
[17:32] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, and where did the UUID come from for storage-vault1
[17:32] <FacedeProut> escott, here is what I get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/902517/
[17:32] <ejv> nooblikespear, nobody is mad, this is simply the support channel for support related assistance, please join #ubuntu-offtopic and you can go crazy over there with your views on Unity.
[17:32] <tyler_d> socket: sudo apt-get remove bar --purge... or such would get rid of it completely
[17:32] <sacarlson> socket I would just install phpmyadmin  that will have to install what you need
[17:33] <tyler_d> socket: what is the end goal here? LAMP?
[17:33] <nooblikespear> ejv : ok but that still doesn't explain why you're so mad
[17:33] <escott> FacedeProut, looks like you have a proxy in your setup that is down. how about "unset http_proxy"
[17:33] <ejv> nooblikespear: no one is upset, including me, it's part of the steps to keep the channel flowing and less chaotic. please move along.
[17:33] <tyler_d> nooblikespear: ubuntu, even linux is not for everyone, but without expressing a specific problem.. complaining about it should be kept elsewhere imho.
[17:34] <socket> tyler_d: thanks
[17:34] <ejv> It_2927: dual, triple, or quadruple boot, the same steps basically apply: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[17:34] <socket> tyler_d: yes, a dev box with apache, mysql, php - it was working fine untill i used aptitude for some upgrade
[17:35] <tyler_d> socket: do you know what upgrade, and what was the behaviour afterwards please? what was failing?
[17:36] <It_2927> Okay
[17:36] <It_2927> on installing the 2nd distro
[17:36] <It_2927> should I let it install grub again
[17:36] <It_2927> or NOT?
[17:36] <tyler_d> It_2927: I think you have about 2 weeks of reading... and more if you want to get into what is faster :)
[17:37] <ejv> !enter | It_2927
[17:37] <sacarlson> lt_2927: grup-install will just detect each bootable partition and add it to the mbr so do as you wish with grub2
[17:37] <monser> how to see what is the default editor
[17:37] <Shinobi> Ubuntu 10.04: ls -i gives a directory listing (files and direcories) with inodes. ls -i myfile lists inode and file. ls -i mydir lists nothing. Is this normal?
[17:37] <monser> what is the variable for that
[17:37] <It_2927> So I don't need to let it install grub again because it's already there?
[17:37] <monser> $EDITOR
[17:37] <monser> I mean in the terminal
[17:38] <sacarlson> lt_2927: it will want to update the menu list so let it
[17:38] <bastidrazor> Shinobi: you need -d switch to list a directory
[17:38] <bastidrazor> Shinobi: ls -id dir will list it
[17:38] <sacarlson> lt_2927: as long as you install windows X first all should work as far as I know
[17:39] <monser> how to see all variables like $SHELL
[17:39] <monser> what is the command for that?
[17:39] <Amoz> monser, echo $SHELL
[17:39] <Shinobi> bastidrazor: Thanks! So much for consistency... :)
[17:39] <Amoz> dunno about all though..
[17:39] <monser> no I want all others variables
[17:39] <bastidrazor> Shinobi: you're welcome.
[17:39] <monser> set?
[17:40] <Amoz> monser, looks like it
[17:40] <ejv> monser: printenv
[17:41] <ejv> http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/chap_03.html this is always helpful to read.
[17:41] <monser> ejv: thanks
[17:41] <ejv> monser: yw
[17:42] <monser> what is yw?
[17:42] <ejv> you're welcome.
[17:42] <monser> :D
[17:43] <socket> where do i find php.ini ?
[17:43] <monser> I gues when one uses man pages it is done via some kind of text editor.Am I right?
[17:43] <ejv> monser: typically something like `less` yes
[17:43] <monser> how to change the editor for that?
[17:44] <monser> there is not variable editor or edit
[17:44] <It_2927> can more than one install use the same swap partition
[17:44] <sacarlson> socket: sometime in the root of the dir of the /var/www/??  you hapen to be working in I think, but also starts from /etc/apache2/??
[17:44] <It_2927> or will another need to be created?
[17:44] <ejv> monser: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[17:44] <SubD> If I want to copy a folder from disk a to disk b does "sudo cp /media/1tb/shows /media/2tb" work? this is theyr mounting points
[17:45] <sacarlson> lt_2927: yes they can all share swap
[17:45] <bluefrog> It_2927, can use same
[17:45] <escott> ejv, man is just a processor that pipes output to "pager" which is aliased to less you can change your pager with /etc/alternatives/pager
[17:45] <auronandace> monser: you want to edit the manpages?
[17:45] <It_2927> the more distrobutions = make the swap bigger?
[17:45] <monser> I want to browse them with nano
[17:45] <sent> .gui apply
[17:45] <ejv> SubD: best to explicity state you want a recursive copy with -R
[17:45] <bluefrog> It_2927, no
[17:45] <auronandace> monser: why?
[17:45] <monser> not to edit them
[17:45] <It_2927> so just leave it alone
[17:45] <sacarlson> SubD: I think you might want to add cp -a /from/path /to/path
[17:45] <It_2927> ok....
[17:45] <monser> does that really matter why?
[17:46] <escott> monser, you could try man something | nano
[17:46] <ejv> escott: im a gentoo user, i'd just use eselect to get the job done ;)
[17:46] <auronandace> monser: whats wrong with: man nameofpage?
[17:46] <sacarlson> SubD: see man cp
[17:46] <escott> ejv, sorry meant to tell monser to change /etc/alternatives/pager but sent to you instead
[17:46] <SubD> sacarlson ejv what's the different of using -a or -R?
[17:47] <ejv> i thinkg using update-alternatives is the appropriate interface
[17:47] <It_2927> im giving 10 gb ext 4 to backtrack
[17:47] <ejv> s/thinkg/think/
[17:47] <escott> SubD, permissions get preserved with -a
[17:47] <ejv> !backtrack | It_2927
[17:47] <SubD> ah ok thanks escott
[17:48] <sacarlson> SubD: -a is arcive will save recusive the user:group  and permisions ;  -R will go recursive but not sure what it saves in permisions
[17:48] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: it's all the StorageVault drives... as for the UUID it came from 'sudo blkid'
[17:48] <It_2927> ejv: Thank you.
[17:49] <FacedeProut> escott, it worked! thank you bro!
[17:49] <It_2927> well, time for me to get going
[17:49] <SubD> sacarlson so "sudo cp /media/1tb/shows /media/2tb -a" should do the job?
[17:49] <It_2927> thanks for the help everyone
[17:49] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, not sure why it appears twice in nautilus. it should see the one entry in fstab and only show that. the uuid on the first is odd because its a full uuid, im used to seeing the uuids in the form of the third which is not actually a uuid. the other thing that is a bit strange is the use of user and uid, but its ok if that is what you want
[17:49] <escott> SubD, args usually come first
[17:50] <escott> SubD, and you probably want -aR
[17:50] <sacarlson> SubD: i normaly put the cp -a .... but that might also work
[17:50] <ejv> supply your options/args after the main command, for clarity, eg: cp -a /path/ /target/
[17:50] <alexstrand7> someone knows about an working nokia PC Suite that works with Nokia 5130
[17:50] <alexstrand7> ?
[17:50] <ejv> honestly, this is a job for rsync, not for cp, guess im old fashioned
[17:50] <SubD> allright thanks for the information escott and sacarlson
[17:52] <sacarlson> subd: ejv: is corect  rsync is beter if running more than one time,  not much different if only the first and only time
[17:52] <alexstrand7> someone knows about an working nokia PC Suite that works with Nokia 5130?
[17:53] <Guest93713> hola
[17:53] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: after further investigating I actually don't think I need the 'user' attribute, but the uid & gid seem to be needed for some strange reason so that mediatomb can access the files on the storage drives (not sure why I never needed it before)
[17:53] <diffra> Why would 11.10 feel slow on relatively new hardware?  i7-620, 6 gigs of ram, quadro 880m, but EVERYTHING just drags and feels slow.
[17:53] <Guest93713> quien eres
[17:53] <sacarlson> subd: ejv: and if the system is remote over ssh rsync again better as it also compresses over lan links
[17:53] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, ntfs doesn't use unix permissions thats why you need uid/gid and the like
[17:53] <SubD> sacarlson: well the copy has started, now I just wonder when 800gb will be done copying, I tought that there would be some kind of a information on how the copying was going, or is there a command for that maybe?
[17:54] <alexstrand7> no one knows how I can connect my Nokia 5130 to my pc so I can sync my contacts?
[17:54] <Guest93713> ooooooooo
[17:54] <Guest93713> dw3de
[17:54] <Guest93713> dxd
[17:54] <Guest93713> e3cd3de
[17:54] <Guest93713> cwe
[17:54] <Guest93713> cd
[17:54] <FloodBot1> Guest93713: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <Guest93713> wc
[17:54] <Guest93713> wd
[17:54] <sacarlson> subd: we should have added cp -av then as that would of added info as it progressed
[17:55] <escott> SubD, you could kill it and start again, or just use rsync which can be interrupted
[17:55] <ejv> glad some people see the light ;)
[17:55] <SubD> sacarlson: oh well I'll remember that next time :D
[17:56] <hubsinger> alexstrand7: did you try syncevolution ?
[17:56] <SubD> escott: nah i'll just let it run through, cant be much more then 2-3 hours :D
[17:56] <alexstrand7> In windows I needed a program called pc suite to sync my phone but I couldn't find a working program for ubuntu
[17:57] <alexstrand7> I'm new to ubuntu, I don't know how to do it
[17:57] <ejv> such a program may not exist, what brand of phone?
[17:58] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to copy files, but I'm getting hung up with links.  It's a Vista drive that I'm trying to copy over to my Ubuntu box before wiping it, and when I copy, there are links pointing back to the windows drive.  That's not good.  I've never run into this before.  What's the procedure to get the files instead of links to them?
[17:58] <craigbass1976> cp -Hr worked in a test, but not when I diid the real copy
[17:58] <alexstrand7> Nokia 5130 Xpress music
[17:58] <alexstrand7> S40
[17:58] <naruto> eeeeeeeeee
[17:58] <alexstrand7> Nokia 5130
[17:58] <sacarlson> alexstrand7: if it doesn't plug and play and become seen as a usb disk then not sure what to try.
[17:58] <escott> craigbass1976, you mean like windows shortcuts? you probably don't mean junctions?
[17:59] <monser> do you know what program is used by default when one browse man pages?
[17:59] <monser> it looks like it is not vom
[17:59] <monser> vim
[17:59] <beandog> monser: man
[17:59] <alexstrand7> I can access my files, that is not the problem, but I want to sync contacts and calendar
[17:59] <monser> my editor is nano
[17:59] <escott> monser, less its set in /etc/alternatives/pager
[17:59] <Pici> monser: Its not vim. The default pager is less.
[17:59] <monser> i see
[17:59] <ejv> didn't we go over this?
[17:59] <ejv> lol
[17:59] <monser> Pici: thank you
[18:00] <blitz> how do I limit myself to one desktop? instead of the default 4
[18:00] <nug700> I'm installing computertemp from the synaptic package manager.. but it freezen on "processing triggers for python-support"
[18:00] <alexstrand7> I can access my files in media mode, but in PC Suite mode nothing happens
[18:00] <monser> so the symbolic link pager is one that determines what is being used
[18:00] <sacarlson> alexstrand7: I guess best to get an android phone next time that is fully supported cross platforms
[18:00] <escott> monser, its your (default) election for the system pager
[18:00] <alexstrand7> I had an android phone but it's not working anymore
[18:01] <monser> what is system pager?
[18:01] <alexstrand7> I'm just using my old phone before I get a new phone
[18:01] <AlanBell> alexstrand7: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/nokuntu-unofficial-nokia-pc-suite-for.html
[18:01] <sacarlson> alexstrand7: you can also move number across with your sim card as I did
[18:01] <monser> utility that just displays things, I guess
[18:01] <escott> monser, it takes output and splits it into "pages" that can be viewed on the screen. you can change it to whatever application you want
[18:02] <sent> he parted  >_>
[18:02] <blitz> what is the viewport switcher?
[18:02] <hubsinger> alexstrand7: it's not just like running a setup.exe but take a look at http://mobileyog.blogspot.com/2010/06/easiest-way-to-sync-your-mobile-phone.html that seems to be quite beginner friendly
[18:02] <monser> escott: thanks
[18:02] <sacarlson> hubsinger: wow bummer he just left, and could have used that
[18:03] <hubsinger> sacarlson: :-(
[18:03] <sacarlson> hubsinger: and it's all my fault :-X
[18:04] <hubsinger> sacarlson: because of the idea with the sim card ? ;-)
[18:04] <ejv> is it an unreasonable expectation he could have googled that result himself with a little effort? i wouldn't kick yourself too much.
[18:05] <sacarlson> hubsinger: no I bumed him out telling him you should have an adroid.  I should of told him the sim card idea first and never spoke of nokia being bad
[18:05] <hubsinger> ejv: oh yes - now that you mention it - there is something called google
[18:06] <beandog> duckduckgo++
[18:06] <dubios> hello, I want to setup automatic ssh auth with public/private keys between an ubuntu 11.10 client and a centos 6 server. I generated an rsa pair and then copied the public key to the server's authorized_keys, but it still requires for a password. is there a known issue with the ubuntu / centos version / combination ?
[18:06] <beandog> dubios: you need to set proper permissons on .ssh of target boxes.  0700 for directory ~/.ssh/ 0600 for ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[18:06] <beandog> dubios: using chmod
[18:07] <escott> dubios, is auth keys an allowed authentication method? what does ssh -vvv username@host say?
[18:07] <sacarlson> dubios: I don't think so but what version of ssh on each side?
[18:07] <dubios> wow, it says a lot of things. wait
[18:08] <jenesaispas> hello there
[18:08] <escott> dubios, redhat (and presumably by extension centos) has IIRC a more restrictive sshd.conf setup than ubuntu
[18:08] <dubios> OpenSSH_5.3p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0-fips 29 Mar 2010 and OpenSSH_5.3p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0-fips 29 Mar 2010
[18:09] <jenesaispas> I've noticed that when I unmount usb disks by right-click on the icon on unity bar(or using nautilus), they are just mounted right back. Any way to avoid that? Am I doing it wrong?
[18:09] <ejv> dubios: you want to set RSAAuthentication yes; PubkeyAuthentication yes; AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys; on your target.
[18:09] <beandog> le sigh.  I just gave you the answer.
[18:09] <ejv> dubios: then restart the openssh-server daemon.
[18:09] <waxstone> youtube.com
[18:09] <dubios> beandog: the permissions are set properly, it's not that
[18:10] <waxstone> oops
[18:10] <beandog> dubios: kk
[18:10] <sacarlson> dubios: escott: ya best we see the ssh server config,  and I guess the client but I think the server should tell
[18:11] <craigbass1976> escott, I have no idea; I've not used Windows much for a while.
[18:11] <beandog> dubios: pastebin ssh -v
[18:11] <blitz> if I get a compiz (core) - Warn: failed to receive ConfigureNotify event on 0x2480894
[18:11] <blitz>  error when I do "sudo compiz --replace" what should I do
[18:11] <dubios> locate sshd.conf returns nothing on centos, do you know the path ? :D
[18:11] <ejv> before suggesting other stuff, give him a second to try escott / my recommendation
[18:11] <ejv> dubios: under /etc/ssh/ presumably
[18:12] <ejv> dubios: for me, my config is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:12] <WA7KPK> Hey all, hopefully a simple question. I have a SB live. It's relaying the output from my line in jack through the speakers. I do NOT want to do this. How do I stop it without just setting the line out level to 0?
[18:12] <sacarlson> dubios: oh ya beandog is probly correct the permitions are critical in ssh , the error would be seen in the logs
[18:12] <blitz> I used the compiz-settings manager to turn off the Desktop Wall
[18:12] <yashwant> hi i am using ubuntu 10.10 can any one explane me how to share ubuntu laptop to window laptop
[18:12] <blitz> and unity went away
[18:12] <escott> craigbass1976, are these files are just text files that list a path to the original file?
[18:12] <beandog> dubios: if you wanted to be extra sure, use ssh-copy-id
[18:12] <blitz> the side dash-y thing
[18:13] <sacarlson> dubios: beandog: ya I think the ssh-copy-id makes sure the file premistions are correct
[18:13] <beandog> dubios: you could also use dropbear in replacement / in addition to openssh
[18:14] <Pici> blitz: you shouldn't be using sudo with that comiz command.
[18:14] <jochans> hi
[18:14] <ejv> you shouldn't be using compiz. FTFY.
[18:14]  * ejv runs
[18:14] <jochans> ja nie rozumiemc
[18:14] <jochans> ja byc z polska
[18:15] <Pici> !pl | jochans
[18:15] <jochans> okokok
[18:15] <jochans> fack you!!
[18:16] <jochans> ?exit
[18:16] <HeN> how can I limit cached ram? seems like 5 of my 8gb ram is cached
[18:16] <craigbass1976> escott, I'm not sure what all of them are.  One I'm currently after is /media/OS/Documents and Settings  If it linked to Users, it's be fine; I could copy it over that way and the link would still work after the copy and restore.  But it links to /media/OS/Users, and once I wipe the drive, my goose is cooked.
[18:16] <escott> HeN, why would you want to
[18:17] <beandog> dubios: any luck?
[18:17] <escott> craigbass1976, can you open these files in a text editor?
[18:17] <dubios> nope, here's my ssh -vvv : https://gist.github.com/2218636
[18:17] <HeN> escott: it seems like my system is being slower
[18:17] <gilmore> HeN: Not sure you'd want to limit it.
[18:17] <escott> HeN, its not
[18:17] <ejv> HeN: you probably don't really want to do that, but if you decide anyways, you want to start adjusting: /proc/sys/vm/ kernel tunables.
[18:17] <NANOnymou5> Can anyone help me with irssi? Actually, im not quite sure if it is the cause of the problem. I cannot connect to any irc server via torify / tsocks :|
[18:17] <gilmore> HeN: Look for another culprit.
[18:18] <craigbass1976> escott, they're links to directories
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> HeN  start from the beginning, what do you want to do, why, and what have you tried before you came here
[18:18] <ejv> HeN: for example /proc/sys/vm/swapiness
[18:18] <escott> craigbass1976, will you please just open one of these links in a text editor and tell me what you see
[18:18] <yashwant> can any one help me how to share linux laptop to window 7 laptop through cable
[18:18] <beandog> dubios: that's way too verbose, can you repaste w/just -v
[18:19] <hubsinger> dubios: sure you have copied the public keys ?
[18:19] <dubios> Ah, it worked, thank you very much guys
[18:19] <superthomas> Does the latest ubuntu run smooth on older hardware( acer aspire 5315 for example)
[18:19] <dubios> "debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey)."
[18:19] <dubios> guess I had to see it in my debug
[18:19] <beandog> hubsinger: looks like it: debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> superthomas  do you mean 11.10 or 12.04?
[18:19] <superthomas> 12.04
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> superthomas  ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:19] <beandog> dubios: it looks to me like it's logging in
[18:20] <craigbass1976> escott, http://pastebin.com/d1w8hvwn
[18:20] <gilmore> superthomas: xubuntu is good for older hardware, (not sure what 5315 is or how limited it  is but...)
[18:20] <dubios> yes beandog, it works, thanks
[18:20] <craigbass1976> yashshah, a single cable, or is there a switch/router involved?
[18:20] <semilleros> holas
[18:21] <yashshah> craigbass1976: I did not get you.
[18:21] <HeN> thanks everyone
[18:21] <gilmore> yashwant: Crossover cable?
[18:21] <escott> craigbass1976, that is "vi" opening a directory. try and "cat filename.lnk"
[18:21] <yashwant> craigbass1976, I ma pursonally using laptop i am not using cable but i want using cross wire
[18:22] <craigbass1976> escott, cat: Documents and Settings: Is a directory
 using crossover
[18:22] <beandog> dubios: cool :)
[18:22] <gilmore> yashwant: Just user  IP addresses in the same subnet
[18:22] <escott> craigbass1976, ok. so it is a directory. im not understanding the problem. is it a symlink? ls -l Documen*
[18:22] <beandog> gilmore: is it that easy?  never tried it.
[18:23] <yashwant> gilmore, but i have not created any subnet
[18:23] <gilmore> beandog: Pretty much... Just depends on what kind of service you want to employ.
[18:23] <beandog> gilmore: intresting.
[18:24] <craigbass1976> escott, I believe it is, as are a bunch of others.  ls -l gives me  lrwxrwxrwx 2 craig craig         60 Oct 17  2007 Documents and Settings -> /media/OS/Users  I can't for the life of me figure out why it won't copy like a nice little link should.
[18:25] <BobMarley> hello
[18:25] <escott> craigbass1976, you can ask copy to traverse symlinks "man cp | grep -C2 dereference"
[18:25] <NANOnymou5> Does anyone know why irssi wont connect to irc servers via torify / tsocks?
[18:26] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: i assume /media/OS/Users is a directory?  does cd "Documents and Settings" work (why would anyone call anything that?)
[18:26] <ziex> Anyone else here managed to get gta sa-mp working on their distribution?
[18:26] <BobMarley> this page is for qemu?
[18:26] <Pici> NANOnymou5: If you mean freenode servers, you should ask in #freenode, they require specific settings.
[18:27] <craigbass1976> zykotick9, ask Bill Gates why.  He named it.  Brilliant!
[18:27] <webnet> zykotick9, ive been wondering that forever
[18:28] <webnet> zykotick9, in the newer windoez they shortened it to "Users"
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> ziex  what's that exactly?
[18:28] <gilmore> webnet: Good idea!
[18:28] <webnet> lol ya
[18:28] <Pici> ziex: #winehq would probably be a better place to ask.
[18:28] <craigbass1976> zykotick9, in vista and 7, MS finaly started putting user's data in "not-quite-so-stupidly-named" directories
[18:29] <plusEV> lulz
[18:29] <webnet> craigbass1976, hahahah yep
[18:29] <ziex> Thanks guys, i'll go to #winehq
[18:29] <daniel__> hola queria saber si alguien me puede ayudar
[18:29] <ziex> #
[18:29] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: thankfully, i haven't used MS as a desktop since WinXP (pre SP1)
[18:29] <s10loridr> I have a backup rsync script that runs on windows xp machines that backs up to an ubuntu server. The xp clients need shell access after the rsync operation has completed to move certain folders around so it knows what the current backup is the next time it runs. I'd like to lock these backup user accounts into a backup folder when using ssh(its home folder). Whats the best way to go about
[18:29] <s10loridr> this... is there any way other than created a chroot jail?
[18:29] <HeN> if i am using the 32bit version with pae kernel and i have 8gb ram, what should be my swap partition size?
[18:29] <webnet> just out of curiousity anyone know where the hell the system32 folder's name came from?
[18:30] <ejv> s10loridr: chown/chomd is insufficient because?
[18:30] <escott> HeN, however large you want it to be
[18:30] <plusEV> prolly 32 bit
[18:30] <Pici> Can we move the Windows discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> webnet  sounds windows to me, ask in ##widows (double #)
[18:31] <dev_> can;t get mysql service to run
[18:31] <HeN> I did it 1gb, is it enough escott?
[18:31] <dev_> can you please help, I can run it in safe mode no problem
[18:31] <dev_> but fail to start service
[18:31] <craigbass1976> escott, so -L should copy the actual files and not just links to the files?
[18:31] <HeN> actually its only using 11mb of it right now
[18:31] <escott> s10loridr, have you looked at the restricted rsync maybe you can adapt that script to update the backups when they are done
[18:31] <NANOnymou5> Pici, thank you
[18:32] <sburwood1> I want to connect my ubuntu desktop to my android tablet. It isn't recognized by mtp, but sourceforge says I need GIT of MTP. I need to download it and then compile it. Who wants to walk me through that?
[18:32] <webnet> MonkeyDust, lol. i know. it just seems dumb name... and i have no desire to visit the lovely people in the windoez channel. tried that once to get help on a comp i was fixing for a friend... some of thoes guys egos cant fit on all of freenod... ugk
[18:32] <escott> HeN, you don't have to have a swap if you don't want one. I think thats silly and would say stick with the standard 1xRAM-2xRAM but you can get lots of opinions on that
[18:32] <ejv> For what it's worth the guys in #windows have always been extremely friendly and knowledgeable. Keep an open mind.
[18:33] <HeN> escott: thanks
[18:33] <sacarlson> s10loridr: ssh rsync is already limited to writing to the ssh account it logs into so I'm not sure what problem you might have
[18:33] <gilmore> sburwood1: What exactly do you want to accomplish?  Share files?
[18:33] <dev_> can someone please help me with getting the mysql service (fresh install on ubunutu) to work
[18:33] <dev_> i've insta;; 5.1
[18:33] <dev_> service won't start
[18:33] <escott> s10loridr, you should be able (very easily with authkeys) to restrict their actions to particular commands of your choosing
[18:33] <webnet> dev_, what isnt working?
[18:33] <dev_> safe mode
[18:33] <dev_> is working
[18:33] <dev_> but not the service
[18:34] <jrib> !enter | dev_
[18:34] <dev_> no logs
[18:34] <FloodBot1> dev_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <beandog> well this is a new one ... terminal font is blurred on the crappy monitor.
[18:34] <sburwood1> Gilmore wanna get a 68mb mp3 file to my tablet - for the moment from my desktop
[18:34] <sacarlson> dev_: did you install phpmyadmin ?
[18:34] <webnet> dev_, try this in terminal: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[18:34] <dev_> start: Job failed to start
[18:34] <webnet> ok. hmm
[18:35] <gilmore> sburwood1: I use "file expert" on my android phone.  I'll bet it's available for the tablet too.
[18:35] <ejv> ubuntu uses upstart right? the non-taboo command is: service mysql start
[18:35]  * jrib nods
[18:35] <zykotick9> webnet: 1) using inti.d is deprecated 2) that would require sudo to work
[18:35] <dev_> there used to be a command of sh +x on /etc/init.d/...
[18:35] <s10loridr> i just need to prevent a user from being able to CD up out of their home folder and see the rest of the filesystem
[18:35] <sacarlson> dev_: you must have modified one or more of the mysql data bases?
[18:35] <webnet> zykotick9, it is? i use it on 10.10 all the time.
[18:35] <dev_> i deleted all mysql files and reinstall
[18:36] <dev_> its a fresh install
[18:36] <escott> s10loridr, start here and see if you can modify it /usr/share/doc/rsync/scripts/rrsync.gz
[18:36] <zykotick9> webnet: it might work, but it's still outdated
[18:36] <webnet> ok
[18:36] <webnet> good to know
[18:36] <sburwood1> Gilmore, gonna look into that option - my tablet is recognized in PTP mode (pictures), but not mtp
[18:36] <tyler_d> dev_: what do your logs say about not starting?
[18:36] <sacarlson> dev_: deleted manualy or did a apt-get purge mysql?
[18:37] <s10loridr> escott, thanks... the rsync funtion im fine with, but after rsync completes i need the script to conenct via ssh and run a couple commands.
[18:37] <dev_> first i did remove --purge
[18:37] <dev_> and then deleted whatever i could find
[18:37] <jrib> dev_: be more explicit.  "remove --purge" WHAT
[18:37] <escott> s10loridr, you can take a horse to water but you cant make him drink
[18:37] <sacarlson> tyler_d: has a good point dev_: what does the mysql logs say about failed starts
[18:37] <dev_> remove --purge mysql-server-5.1
[18:37] <mattia53> ciao
[18:38] <jrib> if he's deleted a bunch of files manually, that probably needs to be rectified first
[18:38] <gilmore> sburwood1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xcxin.filexpert&hl=en
[18:38] <jrib> dev_: and then what did you delete manually?
[18:38] <mattia53> !list
[18:39] <Fr3d3riK> hi,  how do i check what libs does file need to be executed?
[18:39] <chris__> what is the uptodate recommend procedure for encrypting a ssd? home encrypted with ecryptfs or luks/dm-crypt leaving some unpartitioned space for wear leveling?
[18:39] <dev_> i deleted /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql
[18:40] <escott> Fr3d3riK, ldd binaryfilename
[18:40] <ejv> unless you have a very nice CPU with AES-NI support, you sorta of potentially ruin the SSD experience using encryption on it, but you already know that right? :)
[18:40] <Fr3d3riK> thank you
[18:41] <gilmore> ldd prints the shared libraries required by each program or shared library specified on the command line
[18:42] <sacarlson> dev_: ok and now when you reinstall?  and try to restart what do the error logs in /var/logs/mysql ; say?
[18:42] <ejv> chris__: that being said, luks/dm-crypt works quite nice
[18:43] <Fr3d3riK> exit
[18:44] <chris__> ejv: got an i5 with aes-ni here. and bought crucial m4 today. now i am confused if luks/crypt-dm without trim support would ruin my performance especially  as the m4 has no overprovisioning.
[18:45] <fyksen> Hey! I got laggy windows. Everything else is snappy, but my windows are lagging when I drag them around. I got ubuntu 11.10 64bit. Nvidia 460, NvidiaDriver: 295.33
[18:46] <ejv> chris__: i know very little about TRIM support/performance under linux; dare i say that might be something to investigate via Phoronix.
[18:46] <jrib> !who |  dev_
[18:47] <jrib> dev_: what is the output of: dpkg -S /etc/mysql /var/lib/mysql
[18:49] <elisamarie08> ciao a tutti
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> list
[18:49] <Pici> MonkeyDust: tsk
[18:49] <elisamarie08> !list
[18:49] <elisamarie08> list
[18:49] <axl_> hello
[18:50] <chris__> ejv: looks like i have to do a bit more of investigation before migrating my system. archlinux ssd guide seems to bee a good supplement to the ubuntu wiki. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD#Encrypted_partition
[18:51] <fyksen> Hey! I got laggy windows. Everything else is snappy, but my windows are lagging when I drag them around. I got ubuntu 11.10 64bit. Nvidia 460, NvidiaDriver: 295.33
[18:51] <cebaldocchi> how i configure grub?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> !grub| cebaldocchi start here
[18:52] <dubios> how do I see if I have mod_rewrite enabled in apache?
[18:52] <ejv> chris__: in many cases it's superior to the ubuntu docs
[18:53] <Pici> dubios: sudo apache2ctl -M
[18:53] <sacarlson> dubios: I don't think it's enabled by default
[18:54] <sacarlson> dubios: it will be in /etc/apache2/??
[18:54] <chris__> ejv: i am also tempted to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 for the new kernel and cryptsetup but i don't wanna gamble with my coding machine
[18:55] <rob43> I need to run XP in a vm, would you guys recommend xen or virtualbox?
[18:55] <craigbass1976> exit
[18:55] <craigbass1976> bah...
[18:55] <sacarlson> chris__: I know there are alot of things still not present in 12.04 so unless your a minimalist or it has what you want or need now then go for it
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> rob43  i have it in vbox, runs wmoothly, ok
[18:55] <escott> rob43, i think with xen you need a modified version of windows
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> smoothly*
[18:56] <Pici> escott: no you don't.
[18:56] <rob43> MonkeyDusty+escott:ah ok ty
[18:56] <rob43> your combined answer is def making me lean towards vbox
[18:56] <rob43> :p
[18:56] <escott> Pici, ok then wikipedia needs updating as well
[18:57] <escott> Pici, or i just need to read more carefully
[18:57] <mads-> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop using wubi. Can I somehow erase the windows partition and merge the extra space with the wubi installation?
[18:58] <nicm_> Hello! When I try to boot into Ubunto 10,04 on my computer it hangs on the following error message: "nForce_smbus 0000:00:01.1: Error Probing SMB2". I've tried googling but I can't follow the fixes (also, it hangs, and won't boot further). Halp!
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> mads-  no, wubi is inside windows, better use the live cd to install and then erase the win partition
[18:58] <escott> mads-, not a safe thing to do. you need to reinstall/move the wubi to ext4. wubi might have a migration tool
[18:58] <mads-> damn
[18:58] <nicm_> Also, I know literally NOTHING about Ubuntu, I just migrated from windows like, a few days ago,
[18:58] <mads-> Thing is I don't have a CD or USB
[18:58] <sacarlson> mads-: wubi is more like a method of trail for ubuntu not fully supported not running in it's own real partition
[18:59] <Xabster> nicm_, stop using the word literally wrong
[18:59] <Xabster> it's literally annoying
[18:59] <nicm_> Xabster: Sorry. Picked it up somewhere. You're correct, of course.
[18:59] <Xabster> of course.
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> nicm_  offtopic: start here then http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[19:00] <Xabster> about your problem... not a clue
[19:00] <nicm_> MonkeyDust: bookmarked, thanks
[19:01] <n-iCe> since when did linux mint is more popular than ubuntu in distro-watch :o ?
[19:01] <escott> n-iCe, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and distro-watch statistics
[19:02] <sacarlson> n-iCe: just glance at the irc of #mint and find out the real number of realtime interested parties
[19:02] <n-iCe> escott: hahaha
[19:03] <n-iCe> sacarlson: the linux mint network is not freenode?
[19:03] <sacarlson> n-iCe: I know check it
[19:03] <n-iCe> when will be the new ubuntu release be released?
[19:03] <sacarlson> !mint
[19:04] <Pici> n-iCe: April 26th if all goes according to plan.
[19:05] <n-iCe> Pici: I see, big changes?
[19:06] <gilmore> n-iCe: Everything is big when it comes to ubuntu. (even #ubuntu is big).
[19:06] <Pici> n-iCe: Check the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/precise/beta1 (more discussion in #ubuntu+1)
[19:06] <DarsVaeda> how do I disable icedtea plugin? I installed sun java 7 and have that plugin already showing in firefox but icedtea is still there and seems to overwrite it
[19:07] <gilmore> DarsVaeda: Is it a firefox plugin?  Or ubuntu package?
[19:07] <zykotick9> gilmore: both ;)
[19:07] <DarsVaeda> I installed it manually so I guess not a package
[19:07] <Casey105> hi everyone
[19:07] <bjrohan> I had an issue a few days ago, where Unity would not load in 3D version, but through recovery I could get it to boot into 2D. Today after applying updates (I an running 12.04), I can now boot into Unity 3D by default in grub, however there is no system tray, nor launcher. Any suggestions?
[19:08] <zykotick9> bjrohan: re-ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:08] <DarsVaeda> it is the same behavior in chromium btw
[19:09] <DarsVaeda> but I can disable icedtea there
[19:09] <gilmore> zykotick9: DarsVaeda Well, obviously, if it is a package, just un-install it.  If it is a firefox, (again), uninstall it.
[19:09] <zykotick9> DarsVaeda: why did you install icedtea manually?  there is a package availabe?
[19:09] <DarsVaeda> I installed sun-java manually
[19:09] <gilmore> DarsVaeda: Oh, sorry, didn't see you say you installed it manually.
[19:10] <zykotick9> DarsVaeda: oh, then you can just "sudo apt-get remove icedtea" i believe
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> DarsVaeda  sun-java is no longer supported, use open-java
[19:10] <gilmore> DarsVaeda: But you sould still be able to use dpkg to remove it.
[19:10] <DarsVaeda> no that will install sun-java-6
[19:10] <DarsVaeda> @zykotick
[19:10] <zykotick9> DarsVaeda: iceatea and sun-java shouldn't have anything in common (really)
[19:11] <DarsVaeda> MonkeyDust: sorry that is not very helpful, openjdk just doesn not work in all places :/
[19:11] <n-iCe> is there any way to know if changed has been made in a driver?
[19:11] <n-iCe> rtl8187 is the driver I would like to know all the changes and upgrades/updates made
[19:11] <nicm_> Just going to ask again quickly before logging out if anyone knows what it means to hang on boot with an error message "error failed to probe smb2"
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> DarsVaeda  i'm sorry if it's not useful, but oracle does no longer support java for linux
[19:12] <nexusIL> hi I used synap and there are alot of "dead" reposotories is there's a way to clean them? I regularly use yum and new to mint
[19:12] <sacarlson> n-iCe: I guess it in the kernel and the kernel is all it git and git is cool you can look back in time and see all changes
[19:12] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: that's not true - they just don't allow anyone to distribute it anymore
[19:12] <gilmore> nicm_: See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/440470
[19:12] <n-iCe> sacarlson: there are no .txt's or something to read the changes of an specific driver?
[19:12] <gilmore> nicm_: Not sure if that is it but just googled it.
[19:13] <DarsVaeda> I found you can disable the plugin in firefox too, thanks
[19:13] <nicm_> Gilmore: That one suggests I suppress the message by editing the "grub file", but I can't even boot into my file system to edit it :\
[19:13] <sacarlson> n-iCe: I'm not sure, nothing better than looking at git like with gitg and see each change in whatever part of the kernel try you wish
[19:13] <Glacee> question about ubuntu precise
[19:13] <gilmore> nicm_: Let me look....
[19:13] <n-iCe> sacarlson: any tuto to know how to
[19:14] <zykotick9> !precise | Glacee
[19:14] <nicm_> gilmore: thx :D
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Glacee  there's #ubuntu+1 for precise
[19:15] <sacarlson> n-iCe: too many to count http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkgSjRnay4
[19:16] <gilmore> nicm_: What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[19:16] <nicm_> gilmore: 10.04
[19:16] <n-iCe> thanks
[19:16] <sacarlson> n-iCe: http://sixrevisions.com/resources/git-tutorials-beginners/  this is just the top 10 of them
[19:16] <CampinSam> Hey, I hit alt+ctrl+f2, and I can't remember how to return to the running x session, what command can I run from the commandline too do that?
[19:17] <nicm_> gilmore: i tried running the boot repair disk but it completed the operation and didn't help
[19:17] <RyuGuns> Anyone know a good nintendo 64 emulator?
[19:17] <gilmore> nicm_: Point release?
[19:17] <zykotick9> RyuGuns: mupen64plus
[19:18] <trojanfu> ada cewek indonesia kaga ya
[19:18] <beandog> CampinSam: alt f7
[19:18] <zykotick9> capt-rogers: alt+f7 (or f8) to get back to GUI
[19:18] <nicm_> gilmore: umm, not sure, how do I find out?
[19:18] <gilmore> nicm_: Ubuntu 10.04.3 ?
[19:18] <RyuGuns> zykotick9: Tried it, seems to be shit.
[19:18] <zykotick9> CampinSam: alt+f7 (or f8) to get back to GUI
[19:18] <zykotick9> RyuGuns: welcome to /ignore
[19:18] <panx> Hello, anyone can help me setup lightdm as  defauls login screen( know that ive Xubuntu) ??
[19:18] <CampinSam> mm..
[19:18] <CampinSam> Thanks.
[19:18] <gilmore> nicm_: What ISO did you download? (Look at the filename.)
[19:19] <nicm_> gilmore: 10.04.4 LTS
[19:20] <gilmore> nicm_: Did you try booting the safe mode?
[19:20] <nicm_> gilmore: yeah, no dice (well "recovery" mode)
[19:20] <buhman> erm, where's the /etc/inittab?
[19:21] <BobMarley> hello
[19:21] <cookiecaks> hai
[19:22] <nicm_> gilmore: It's a relatively new install, I think I might just re-install from the .iso...
[19:23] <gilmore> nicm_: reading....
[19:24] <gilmore> nicm_: Did it boot ok when you first installed?
[19:24] <nicm_> Gilmore: yeah, it worked fine for several days.
[19:24] <roasted> Question - is there no way to list your apps in Unity from a-z? They're kind of all over the place. :(
[19:25] <nicm_> Gilmore: I'm not sure what went wrong. The last thing I did was install, what's it called, pysdm, storage device manager.
[19:25] <nicm_> Gilmore: I'm not sure the smb2 error is causing the hang, or whether there is some kind of separate booting issue caused by something else entirely
[19:27] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know if ubuntu hads this package iwl6000g2b-firmware?
[19:28] <bjrohan> What is the default UBUNTU built in bug reporting app?
[19:28] <AI|Loop> what do you mean
[19:28] <gilmore> nicm_: I was on the wrong one.  Looks like I should have been reading this one:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/575296
[19:28] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:29] <zykotick9> !bug | bjrohan
[19:29] <cookiecaks> I want my bitch/complain room now
[19:29] <cookiecaks> anyone have any suggestions?
[19:29] <hcc23> Good afternoon. I am trying to set up a VNC server on a Ubuntu 11.10 box  and run into the strange behavious that the session created via lightdm.conf don't present any usable desktop after the login screen. Changin to "Ubuntu 2D" get's me some things, but still no usable applications... Any hints?
[19:29] <zykotick9> cookiecaks: try /dev/null
[19:29] <nicm_> gilmore: reading, thx
[19:29] <hcc23> (I normally am using opensuses and hence don't really know my way around ubuntu...)
[19:29] <bjrohan> thanks zykotick9 - I entered that into the launcher, and nothing came up
[19:30] <beandog> cookiecaks: what happened
[19:30] <zykotick9> bjrohan: command line application i believe
[19:30] <perlsyntax> anyone know if there a package call iwl6000g2b-firmware in ubuntu or not?
[19:30] <geekbri> I'm trying to add a variable to my bash prompt, and its simply not working.  would anybody wager to help me with such a dark thing :)
[19:30] <AI|Loop> hcc23 : vnc often lags a lot, especially if your link is slow. It might not be suitable to you but I suggest using sshd/openssh
[19:30] <beandog> geekbri: like what
[19:30] <zykotick9> geekbri: #bash might be more help?
[19:31] <geekbri> zykotick9: I might go poke around there thanks
[19:31] <beandog> geekbri: export FOO=bar
[19:31] <Dulak> geekbri: ${VARNAME}
[19:31] <hcc23> AI|Loop: I am trying to do this via our internal 1000Mbit network, tunneling into the ubuntu box and forwarding the VNC ports...
[19:32] <nicm_> gilmore: strange, that bug still seems benign. I have no idea what is causing my system to hang... I will use a live CD to backup some files and then re-install, maybe try 11.10
[19:32] <zykotick9> geekbri: if you do, give more details in your question.    Or 11.10 xubuntu (would be my preference).
[19:33] <geekbri> zykotick9, Dulak, beandog: im basically trying this in my .bashrc and it certainly isn't working. https://gist.github.com/2219539
[19:33] <beandog> cookiecaks: well thats poopy, what happened
[19:33] <cookiecaks> beandog: you happened >:|
[19:33] <cookiecaks> YUNOABORT
[19:34] <Pici> cookiecaks: This is a support channel. Do you actually have a question or are you going to continue with this nonsense?
[19:34] <beandog> cookiecaks: that usually bugs other people too
[19:34] <cookiecaks> Pici: I need support, I am an alcoholic.
[19:34] <endafy> what is a better application other than recordmydesktop?
[19:35] <zykotick9> geekbri: well, my ititial comment is, my .bashrc doesn't have any export lines...
[19:35] <hcc23> endafy: vlc
[19:35] <endafy> vlc will record the desktop?
[19:35] <hcc23> it should AFAIK.
[19:35] <geekbri> zykotick9: I tried without them as well with the same result.
[19:36] <endafy> heh ill try it thanks for the info
[19:36] <zykotick9> geekbri: are you running "source .bashrc" after making changes?
[19:36] <hcc23> endafy: in vlc try menu Media->Record capture device and then select desktop....
[19:36] <Dulak> geekbri: you can either move the shell-out into the prompt with \$(code here),  or push the code into a function, and do \$(functionname) in the prompt
[19:37] <geekbri> Dulak: Ah, I tried that and failed, perhaps it was because i was missing the \$
[19:37] <Dulak> geekbri: Yeah the prompt is tricksy like that.
[19:37] <beandog> geekbri: you've got the idea, put it in .bashrc, but remove "export"
[19:38] <beandog> geekbri: then create a new terminal window, and yer done
[19:38] <nicm_> general question: i'm in the 11.10 live cd gui environment and I would like to move some files from one hdd (which I will be formatting soon) to another, but it says I don't have permission
[19:38] <geekbri> Dulak: It did not work :(
[19:38] <nicm_> is there any way to elevate my privileges that doesn't involve long command line sequences in the terminal?
[19:39] <beandog> sudo su -
[19:39] <nicm_> can I just "sudo" drag and drop?
[19:39] <geekbri> Dulak, beandog: changed to the following https://gist.github.com/2219539
[19:39] <beandog> geekbri: that's gonna run hostname every time
[19:39] <beandog> which is why they set a variable
[19:40] <escott> nicm_, you could gksudo nautilus, but be very very careful
[19:40] <geekbri> beandog: ok, but the way I had it before didnt work even without the export?
[19:40] <beandog> geekbri: put it in ~/.bashrc
[19:40] <beandog> then it'll work
[19:40] <geekbri> beandog: thats where it was :X
[19:40] <nicm_> escott: what could go wrong potentially?
[19:41] <Dulak> geekbri: you need to export PS1 to push it into the parent shell, otherwise it is only local to the run of .bashrc, not the parent environment
[19:41] <geekbri> ok so the export IS needed
[19:41] <dfgas-cr48> hello
[19:41] <Dulak> geekbri: Yes, otherwise it only applies while .bashrc is actually running
[19:41] <geekbri> Dulak: gotcha, do I need to do ${} for the variable?
[19:41] <dfgas-cr48> how do i get buttons on top of window to the right?
[19:41] <escott> nicm_, because guis are more powerful and are not visually distinguished they way your sudo -i prompt is. make sure you close all those root nautilus windows when you are done
[19:42] <ThinkT510> !controls | dfgas-cr48
[19:42] <beandog> geekbri: no, you don't need export.
[19:42] <nicm_> escott: okay, I just want to move a couple folders, then shut down right away
[19:42] <beandog> geekbri: put it in .bashrc.  Open a new terminal.
[19:42] <geekbri> beandog: I've been doing that but it seems to simply not exist
[19:42] <Dulak> geekbri: You don't have to but it makes sure there is no ambiguity and the shell won't be confused.
[19:43] <beandog> geekbri: pastebin it?
[19:43] <geekbri> beandog: k one sec
[19:43] <heftig> does ubuntu use voluntary kernel preemption, or a preemptible kernel?
[19:43] <nicm_> escott: thanks for the warning though
[19:43] <hcc23> does anybody know where/how lightdm starts the tightvncserver if there is a [VNCServer] entry in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf? does a vnc server instance created that way have any kind of log file somewhere?
[19:43] <Dulak> geekbri: the export is absolutely needed to push PS1 into the parent shell, which is the bash shell you are running from.
[19:44] <beandog> Dulak: that's true.  Or just source the file.  But it doesn't need to be in .bashrc
[19:44] <geekbri> Dulak: https://gist.github.com/2219539 that is what I have currently.  It doesn't work.  interestingly enough If i move the $environment variable to the front of the string it works... although that is not where i want it
[19:44] <escott> heftig, it should be preemptible most have been for years, except maybe RT kernels?
[19:44] <heftig> escott: just noticed fedora is using voluntary, was wondering about ubuntu
[19:45] <beandog> geekbri: take out export
[19:45] <beandog> o.O
[19:45] <geekbri> beandog: doesn't work with or without the export
[19:45] <beandog> geekbri: you have it on the second line
[19:45] <geekbri> beandog: yeah im saying on the PS1 line it doesn't work with or without it
[19:45] <beandog> wait a second, that's not your *entire* .bashrc is it?
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: no no no, i have the general ubuntu one
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: with this appended at the bottom
[19:46] <beandog> geekbri: okay.  How are you testing it then?
[19:46] <gilmore> dfgas-cr48: http://www.ntlug.org/Articles/CustomizeUbuntu  Scroll down about half way, (under "Here are my suggested changes")
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: im logging out then back in (instead of sourcing)
[19:46] <geekbri> beandog: I do see that PS1 is being set further up in the file, but I just assuemd this would overwrite that.
[19:46] <beandog> geekbri: it will overwrite it
[19:47] <escott> heftig, grep -i preempt /boot/config-3.0.0-11-generic  it is voluntary
[19:47] <gilmore> dfgas-cr48: "Scroll down and click the down arrow beside metacity. Select general under metacity and then look to the right panel. Select the text to the right of button_layout and change it to ?:minimize,maximize,close?."
[19:47] <heftig> escott: okay, thanks
[19:47] <escott> heftig, they are probably concerned about bad drivers
[19:47] <heftig> with good reason
[19:47] <BobMarley> hi
[19:47] <dfgas-cr48> ty
[19:47] <gilmore> NP
[19:47] <beandog> geekbri: what happens when you run that in the terminal, without export
[19:48] <heftig> I've been running into some horrible RCU hangs with the wifi drivers here, and I think it's the preemptible RCU that's at fault
[19:48] <BobMarley> i try to mount as a guest the ubuntu 10.04 with qemu
[19:48] <heftig> or rather, the driver's interaction with the rcu
[19:48] <BobMarley> and when i write the following command :
[19:48] <BobMarley> qemu -hda ubuntu-test -cdrom ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso -m 192 -boot d
[19:48] <geekbri> beandog: just shows me the normal prompt without the added variable.  If i pull the variable to the front it works
[19:48] <BobMarley> i get this result:
[19:48] <BobMarley> open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
[19:48] <BobMarley> Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support
[19:48] <BobMarley> qemu: could not open disk image ubuntu-test: No such file or directory
[19:48] <BobMarley> so what is the problem?
[19:49] <beandog> geekbri: wait, whut?
[19:49] <BobMarley> do i need to put the iso file somewhere in some specific folder?
[19:49] <Dulak> It's not like I wrote my own .bashrc that plenty of people have used, what do I know.  https://bitbucket.org/alwassoc/mybashrc/overview
[19:49] <beandog> geekbri: that should reset your prompt
[19:49] <beandog> geekbri: do this: PS1=""
[19:50] <guntbert> !enter | BobMarley (it is hard to read your question over many lines)
[19:50] <ghostconn> im having trouble installing a kde login screen.. i have downloaded the theme but I have no idea where to drag it to
[19:51] <geekbri> beandog: that blanks out my prompt.
[19:51] <gilmore> ghostconn: What did you download?
[19:51] <beandog> geekbri: okay, then run "echo $environment"
[19:51] <beandog> geekbri: what's that do
[19:51] <BobMarley> i try to mount as a guest the ubuntu 10.04 with qemu
[19:51] <BobMarley> and when i write the following command :
[19:51] <BobMarley>  qemu -hda ubuntu-test -cdrom ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso -m 192 -boot d
[19:51] <BobMarley> i get this result:
[19:51] <BobMarley>  open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
[19:51] <FloodBot1> BobMarley: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <BobMarley>  Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support
[19:52] <gilmore> BobMarley: You already said all that.
[19:52] <Shinobi> Beagle isn't in the repos. What do people use index documents and search?
[19:52] <NewWorld> Shinobi:  `locate` and `grep` ?
[19:53] <gilmore> and find
[19:53] <BobMarley> gilmore,  yes but there were people that found it hard to read betwen many other lines
[19:53] <gilmore> o
[19:54] <BobMarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/902734/
[19:54] <BobMarley> the same thing
[19:54] <gilmore> BobMarley: That's better
[19:54] <gfc> hello
[19:55] <gilmore> gfc;  We're not very helloish around here, but  hello anyway.
[19:55] <BobMarley> like+
[19:55] <BobMarley> gfc
[19:56] <Shinobi> NewWorld: anything nice for gnome?
[19:56] <NewWorld> Shinobi:   I dunno sorry, was just suggesting what I know of
[19:57] <Shinobi> I was looking at docfetcher: http://docfetcher.sourceforge.net/en/index.html
[19:57] <Shinobi> NewWorld: It's all good. :)
[19:57] <geekbri> beandog: shows me "qa" which is what the $environment variable should be set to
[19:58] <fernandocueva> how to load my email messenger under empathy
[19:58] <BobMarley> so does somebody know how do i solve my problem?
[19:58] <fernandocueva> I loaded the program entered the keyring password but it doesn't load my account
[19:58] <beandog> geekbri: okay, now enter PS1="\[\e]0;\u@\h $environment: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$"
[19:59] <buhman> I want to start autossh on boot, how can I go about doing this?
[19:59] <geekbri> beandog: qa appears nowhere in the prompt
[19:59] <Shinobi> Will an inode of a file/direcoty ever change during the files lifetime? Will an operation such as mv ever change an inode? (Assuming I stay on the same filesystem)
[19:59] <geekbri> beandog: its back to my regular prompt
[19:59] <beandog> geekbri: back to regular prompt meaning ubuntu default or what
[20:00] <az1298az> cool!
[20:00] <geekbri> beandog: exactly.  The following works: PS1="\e[0;31m$(hostname -f | cut -d '.' -f 2) \e[0m\[\e]0;\u@\h \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$"
[20:00] <geekbri> beandog: however i wanted that qa to be after the \h which it doesn't seem to like
[20:00] <beandog> geekbri: eh, well, at this point, I'd say just go with that
[20:01] <geekbri> beandog: perhaps, although its not what my boss wants so i might plug away al ittle longer
[20:01] <beandog> geekbri: I think I managed to duplicate it.
[20:01] <geekbri> beandog: same problem?
[20:02] <beandog> geekbri: yah, its the placement inside the brackets [] that ignores it
[20:02] <geekbri> beandog: i tried shifting the brackets around but it didnt like it.. im pretty sure brackets mean "non printable characters"
[20:02] <geekbri> or at least commands
[20:03] <beandog> geekbri: yah something like that.  I dunno.  Sorry mon.
[20:03] <Dulak> geekbri: \[\]  is zero width chars,  [] are passed through
[20:03] <beandog> geekbri: I was chasing the wrong problem the whole time.  sorry about that.
[20:04] <Dulak> geekbri: https://bitbucket.org/alwassoc/mybashrc/src/abc88c540763/.mybashrc#cl-114
[20:04] <ghostconn> where would i install a kmd theme
[20:05] <geekbri> Dulak: not sure I follow.
[20:05] <ubuntu_> ciao a tutti
[20:06] <ghostconn> where would i install a kdm login screen theem
[20:06] <ThinkT510> !it | ubuntu_
[20:06] <Dulak> geekbri: You use \[\] to denote zero width chars, like escape codes that change the color but don't add to the width of the prompt.  Plain [ and ] are shown as-is in the prompt.
[20:06] <NewWorld> ghostconn:  Maybe you should ask in #kde
[20:06] <xalbo> Earlier today, I upgraded some packages in Update Manager, and after a required reboot, my second monitor doesn't work. I haven't touched the configuration for *years* (since it's been working smoothly), so I remember the graphics card is nvidia, I'm using TwinView, and I don't remember much else.
[20:06] <ubuntu_> oggi ho installato ubuntu e dopo aver fatto l'aggiornamento al riavvio mi è apparso lo schemo nero con il messaggio di canbiare risoluzione. come si fa?
[20:06] <ubuntu_> grazie
[20:07] <az1298az> Is
[20:07] <LmAt> I have a windows machine, can I install ubuntu on it (dual-boot)?
[20:07] <ThinkT510> LmAt: of cource you can
[20:07] <LmAt> ThinkT510; Do I have to reinstall windows?
[20:07] <dell> what's going on now guys?
[20:07] <ThinkT510> LmAt: no
[20:07] <guntbert> ubuntu_: this channel is english only ---  " Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano"
[20:07] <LmAt> ThinkT510; I have to create a separate partition for Ubuntu, right?
[20:08] <geekbri> Dulak: I'm totally lost and still have no idea how to inject my function in there properly :)
[20:08] <ThinkT510> LmAt: yes
[20:08] <LmAt> ThinkT510; Can you give me  a link (or explain it to me)?
[20:08] <guntbert> dell: welcome to #ubuntu.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:08] <LmAt> guntbert; YES!!
[20:08] <ThinkT510> !install | LmAt
[20:08] <Dulak> geekbri: The page I pasted is my bashrc,  and line 114 is my PS1 prompt
[20:08] <dell> guntbert: nah I'm here to help, if I can that is
[20:09] <az1298az> I
[20:10] <geekbri> Dulak: Yeah, I saw that you are succesfully doing it, but I don't understand why it works for you and not for me
[20:10] <geekbri> Dulak: https://gist.github.com/2219539
[20:10] <Mango_Man> Hey guys, would anyone mind helping me with this broken package error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1947746
[20:10] <Mango_Man> I tried the suggestions from the replies
[20:11] <az1298az> Can I use rm -fr *.txt to remove all text files in my home catalog?
[20:11] <Dulak> geekbri: You need to wrap your escapes in \[ \] to tell bash they have no width on the prompt.  Notice how the colors on mine have those?
[20:11] <beandog> az1298az: no
[20:12] <beandog> az1298az: find /home/foo -type f -name '*.txt'
[20:12] <beandog> az1298az: and when youre sure thats what you want,
[20:12] <beandog> az1298az: find /home/foo -type f -name '*.txt' -delete
[20:12] <Dulak> geekbri: I just pushed the escapes to variable names to make the line shorter
[20:12] <geekbri> Dulak: ok I will try that, although even when I tried what I have without colors it still didnt work
[20:12] <Dulak> geekbri: You need \$()  not $() also
[20:13] <geekbri> Dulak: I see.  Why does it work when I put it at the front then?
[20:13] <az1298az> Hmm, I will have to read up more... thanks!
[20:13] <Dulak> geekbri: I am not sure why it works at the beginning of the line
[20:15] <Jeremy3D> anyone here ever use Kino ?
[20:15] <dell> Mango_Man: did you double check to see if the dependencies are being installed?
[20:15] <Dulak> geekbri: the prompt is way more black magic than it should be, took me a long time to get it just the way I wanted it.
[20:16] <trism> Mango_Man: can you pastebin: apt-cache policy libicu-dev libboost-regex1.46-dev
[20:16] <Mango_Man> dell trism sure thing
[20:19] <Mango_Man> trism: here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/jVSLF9WR
[20:20] <trism> Mango_Man: sorry I should have included libicu44 too, and you are sure you ran apt-get update? might be interesting to look at /etc/apt/sources.list too
[20:21] <trism> Mango_Man: there is a new version of icu in oneiric-security but it isn't listed in apt-cache policy
[20:21] <twig11> How would I start troubleshooting a freezing problem that is making my laptop almost unuseable in ubuntu 11.10? It acts like the computer is running out of Ram, but
[20:21] <Mango_Man> trism: i'm gonna run apt-get update again--i'll pastebin my sources.list
[20:21] <twig11> I've used System Monitor and it shows my RAM at 33-50% free. I'm not maxing out my 1.6 Ghz Core 2 Duo cpu either; it happens when I've only got Thunderbird, a few tabs in Chromium or Firefox
[20:21] <twig11> and maybe one or two other apps open. Loads that used to be no problem on this laptop even under 11.10 now completely stall it. Is that something that could come from a bad cpu interface with the heat sink?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> twig11: have you tested RAM health?
[20:22] <twig11> How do you do that?
[20:23] <fernandocueva> hello, I have a usb drive that loads as sdd1 whoever when I select eject it removes the filesystem but not the drive so my question is How to load the filesystem again I tried sudo mount -t fuseblk /dev/sdd1 /mnt/mitia/ but it didn't work
[20:24] <geekbri> Dulak: wrapping my colors in \[\] didnt work, it seems to do something really strange
[20:24] <cebaldocchi> eaeeee!!!
[20:25] <Mango_Man> trism: here's my sources.list file (http://pastebin.com/7HK0rdAN) and here's my apt-cache policy result (http://pastebin.com/SpY78Nsi)
[20:26] <Mango_Man> trism: i commented out some sources in the sources.list file, i don't think i need those
[20:26] <twig11> To whoever just replied to my question about a freezing computer, please reply again. I discovered as I started this chat.
[20:26] <twig11> that I was using a theme that doesn't display handles, making it absolutely useless in a multiperson chat room. Couldn't see who you were and had to change themes. sorry.
[20:26] <ServicesLuto> How do I delete a user account?
[20:27] <konartist> im using joli os 1.2, can i get help here
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> uderdel
[20:28] <twig11> What is a recommended way to test my RAM to see if it is the cause of my computer freezing
[20:28] <jenesaispas> hi there.
[20:28] <twig11> under light loads?
[20:28] <fernandocueva> anybody here uses startingpage
[20:28] <trism> Mango_Man: I see your problem, you must have had oneiric-security/oneiric-updates in the list at one time, updated libicu44, but then removed it later
[20:28] <ServicesLuto> Sudo userdel -r username don't works.
[20:28] <h4xx0r_> ok everyone
[20:28] <h4xx0r_> now tell me in yes or no
[20:28] <ServicesLuto> 'the user is logged in at the moment.'
[20:28] <copacetic> I used this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html    to try to install oracle-java on 12.04, it worked on my laptop but on my desktop im getting the following result http://pastebin.com/fScckWAW   is anyone having similar problems?
[20:28] <h4xx0r_> archlinux better than ubuntu or no?
[20:28] <gmachine_24> Hello. I just set up my first SSH connection on my network; even though I've used Ubuntu for years I'm proud of this. Anyway, when I want to log out from an ssh session do I need to give a special command?
[20:28] <yurt3829> twig11: memtest86, it's included on lots of live CDs
[20:28] <jenesaispas> how come usb disks are mounted right back after being unmounted by graphic interface? Any way to avoid that?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> ServicesLuto  http://www.basicconfig.com/linux/delete-user-account-using-linux-userdel-command
[20:29] <Mango_Man> trism: i'm pretty sure i've done that at some point. should i add something to my sources.list file?
[20:29] <gmachine_24> jenesaispas, sometimes I pick "eject"
[20:29] <dell> h4xx0r_: this is a support channel not a survey channel
[20:29] <trism> Mango_Man: easiest way to get it back is probably to run: software-properties-gtk; then on the updates tab check oneiric-updates and oneiric-security then rerun apt-get update
[20:29] <jenesaispas> jenesaispas, thanks
[20:29] <twig11> yurt3829: thanks, is it in the repository?
[20:29] <twig11> checking
[20:29] <konartist> how do i get the application reporosity to work if i get this error message:             E: Type 'dep' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[20:29] <meerkats> I just upgraded and now compiz effects are back to default, even the screen format has changed, is that normal?
[20:29] <jenesaispas> gmachine_24, thanks
[20:29] <meerkats> 3.0.17
[20:30] <jenesaispas> gmachine_24, so that's the normal behaviour?
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> alrite
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> anyways
[20:30] <Mango_Man> trism: got it, i'll try that
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> can someone here tell me how to install gnome 2 on ubuntu 11
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> ?
[20:30] <h4xx0r_> if its possible
[20:30] <gmachine_24> jenesaispas, no problem. It's annoying. I don't know if it's normal - it just seems to happen sometimes; others, not.
[20:30] <jenesaispas> ok
[20:30] <jenesaispas> thanks
[20:30] <gmachine_24> sure thing
[20:30] <gmachine_24> I assume it worked?
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> h4xx0r_  gnome2 is "dead", gnome classic looks veery much like it, but it *is* gnome3
[20:31] <FernandoCueva> hello, I have a usb drive that loads as sdd1 whoever when I select eject it removes the filesystem but not the drive so my question is How to load the filesystem again I tried sudo mount -t fuseblk /dev/sdd1 /mnt/mitia/ but it didn't work
[20:31] <d0brii> hi
[20:32] <ServicesLuto> MonkeyDust, Don't works.
[20:32] <gmachine_24> FernandoCueva - I don't know. What about removing the drive and then plugging it back in. Very low tech.
[20:32] <h4xx0r_> @MonkeyDust, if im correct, i guess you are talking about the force fallback mode eh?
[20:32] <d0brii> anyone's unity getting progressively slower and slower after couple of weeks?
[20:32] <meerkats> i changed the size of unity icons (right panel) but the change has no effect
[20:32] <trism> konartist: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, it seems you may have a typo on line 3
[20:33] <ServicesLuto> MonkeyDust, 'the user is logged in at the moment.'
[20:33] <twig11> yurt3829: Can I run a memory test from the installed system?
[20:33] <Mango_Man> trism: it works now, thanks a bunch!
[20:33] <yurt3891> d0brii: No, because I wouldn't touch it with a very long pole
[20:33] <FernandoCueva> gmachine_24, I want to do it from the terminal without removing it
[20:33] <trism> Mango_Man: good to hear
[20:33] <yurt3891> twig11: memtest86 runs at boot up
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> ServicesLuto  use a live cd and then delete the user from there
[20:33] <arne_> \gnome-java
[20:33] <_Marcus|NotHereS> d0brii: I haven't noticed anything
[20:33] <d0brii> yurt3891: yeah though I upgrade ubuntu to 11.11 and it is impossible to remove unity
[20:34] <_Marcus|NotHereS> !nounity | d0brii
[20:34] <gmachine_24> FernandoCueva - so it's still listed as /dev/sdd1?
[20:34] <yurt3891> d0brii: You can boot into a different desktop environment so Unity doesn't get loaded at all. It's possible to remove the packages, just that the meta desktop package complains at you
[20:34] <cebaldocchi> alguem afim de trocar musicas?
[20:34] <h4xx0r_> what is a shell can someone here explain?
[20:35] <_Marcus|NotHereS> h4xx0r: It goes on top of the main program. Like an extension
[20:35] <d0brii> ubottu:  tnx
[20:35] <_Marcus|NotHereS> d0brii: Ubottu is a bot
[20:36] <d0brii> lol
[20:36] <FernandoCueva> gmachine_24, is listed as sdd but sdd1 is gone
[20:36] <konartist> @trism how do i use paste bin
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> !pt| cebaldocchi
[20:37] <gmachine_24> how about $sudo mount /media/drive_name
[20:37] <trism> !pastebin | konartist
[20:37] <meerkats> does unity experimetal have problems with 3.0.17?
[20:38] <maximilius> Hello. I accidently deleted an usb-stick during a WIN-partitioning. The tools gpart and TestDisk do not work for me. what can i do?
[20:38] <konartist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/902811/
[20:38] <twig11> yurt3891: thanks, I'll try it.
[20:39] <trism> konartist: yeah just a typo, and you don't actually need that many copies, so just delete lines 3-6 then rerun apt-get update
[20:40] <trism> konartist: after that software-properties-gtk or whatever you were using should be able to read it
[20:40] <gmachine_24> FernandoCueva - just in general I don't think you need the trailing "/" in /mnt/mitia/
[20:40] <konartist> it says the file is read only
[20:40] <konartist> how do i edit it
[20:40] <FernandoCueva> k
[20:40] <konartist> im looking at it in gedit
[20:41] <yurt3891> maximilius: In what way does gparted "not work"? Did you remove the file system partition on the USB Stick? I've recreated FAT32 partitions on them before with gparted
[20:41] <gmachine_24> konartist, open gedit with $sudo gedit filename
[20:41] <trism> konartist: you can use: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list; to edit it with root permissions
[20:41] <maximilius> yurt3891: i need partition recovery not creation
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> maximilius  did you erase the data on the usb stick? if yes, try scalpel or testdisk to recover the data
[20:41] <maximilius> the tool is call gpart not gparted
[20:42] <maximilius> MonkeyDust: TestDisk only offers to recover 1 older partition which is the wrong one, and after deep search i cant select either of both
[20:42] <gmachine_24> maximilius, sorry for coming in late...... you are wanting to pull data from a drive or actually restore that drive/partition?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> !info gpart
[20:42] <geekbri> Dulak, beandog: Figured out the problem.  I was injecting it between /[0 and /a which are the TITLE not the prompt.
[20:43] <maximilius> gmachine_24: i wish that i could pull the data off from it maybe with ddrescue?
[20:44] <gmachine_24> maximilus, I know there are posts/sites out there that will supposedly tell you how to rescue data using open source tools. I have read them and forgotten them more times than I can count. But if you do a search I know you will find at least some solutions; I can't guarantee that they work.
[20:45] <maximilius> yeah, i found lots of stuff that tells you how to manually edit the partition table but thats not what i can use
[20:45] <trism> konartist: if that is actually your /etc/apt/sources.list then you will probably want to run: gksudo software-properties-gtk; afterwards to enable some repos
[20:47] <yurt3891> maximilius: Have you tried with gentoo?
[20:47] <gmachine_24> maximilus, have you tried http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue and/or http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html?
[20:47] <konartist> thank you
[20:47] <maximilius> why would i try with gentoo?
[20:47] <gmachine_24> no ? on the url obviously
[20:47] <yurt3891> maximilius: SystemRescueCD is based on gentoo and has lots of disk recovery utilities
[20:49] <gmachine_24> maximilius, re: gentoo yurt is referring to a boot disk solution, not installing gentoo
[20:49] <gmachine_24> .............. I think
[20:50] <_Marcus|NotHereS> gmachine_24: He is saying that the operating system that the SystemRescueCD is based on is Gentoo
[20:50] <xananax> Hello
[20:50] <beandog> yay gentoo
[20:50] <_Marcus|NotHereS> Hi xananax
[20:50] <yurt3891> gmachine_24: Let us be serious... installing gentoo will not recover a deleted partition. Even the best OS can't work miracles
[20:50] <xananax> I have that USB that does not work (hangs on safely remove)
[20:50] <nes> gentoo = beast/
[20:51] <xananax> After trying a lot of things, I was able to make it work with sudo mount -o remount,async /dev/sda1
[20:51] <xananax> so basically mounting it in sync mode
[20:51] <maximilius> will try the DDRESCUE magic
[20:51] <gmachine_24> guys- I know I said you were talking about a boot disk based on gentoo.
[20:51] <xananax> Can I edit my fstab to add an entry for this usb and have it always mounted in sync?
[20:52] <DJ> xananax, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[20:52] <DJ> there it is,
[20:52] <gmachine_24> xananax - will it always be plugged in?
[20:52] <xananax> no, it's a usb thumb drive
[20:52] <DJ> xananax, then create a bash script to Mount it,
[20:52] <daftykins> then that's not gonna work
[20:52] <DJ> every time you'll eject it, and want to mount it back again...
[20:52] <gmachine_24> ask questions first, grasshopper. then give answers. :)
[20:52] <xananax> DJ: I would just enter the command every time, no prob, but it's an MP3 player that my mother has just bought
[20:53] <xananax> if I remove nautilus automatic mount
[20:53] <xananax> she's gonna have problems
[20:53] <DJ> xananax, just mount it with a bash script,
[20:53] <DJ> and you're good,
[20:53] <DJ> what are you trying to do xananax ?
[20:54] <gmachine_24> mount an mp3 player, I think
[20:54] <xananax> I am just trying to get this to work in a "normal" manner for my mother to prevent her from switching back to windows
[20:54] <xananax> she just bought an mp3 player
[20:54] <xananax> and it won't sync
[20:54] <DJ> xananax, install gtkpod,
[20:54] <gmachine_24> what kind of mp3 player
[20:54] <xananax> Basically a usb with a fat32 system
[20:55] <gmachine_24> xananax, what brand?
[20:55] <xananax> Intenso
[20:55] <xananax> Something unheard of
[20:55] <DJ> just install gtkpod, and you'll be good, with syncing if you want to put mp3s and such...
[20:55] <xananax> http://www.intenso.de/index_en.php
[20:55]  * DJ does not help any more.
[20:55] <xananax> DJ: the problem is not syncing with a playlist, rythmox works fine
[20:55] <yurt3891> I never understand why people force Linux on hapless relatives
[20:56] <xananax> yurt3891, because it is easier for me to maintain that windows
[20:56] <xananax> I am going to maintain anyway
[20:56] <DJ> just mount it,
[20:56] <DJ> nothing will happend,
[20:56] <DJ> *happen
[20:56] <yurt3891> xananax: Sounds like it, stuck on copying files to a music player ;)
[20:57] <xananax> yurt3891, that's a special case :) In one year I only had to intervene once and this time, when my mother had windows it was every week
[20:57] <nicofs> Is there any softphone that enables me to send/receive SMS and make phonecalls via my 3g modem?
[20:57] <gmachine_24> and which 3g modem is that?
[20:57] <DJ> nicofs, skype?
[20:57] <DJ> ;)
[20:58] <beandog> nicofs: google voice
[20:58] <beandog> well, for sms anyway
[20:58] <xananax> DJ: ok let me explain the use case: I plug the drive, it shows, I can move songs to it through nautilus or rhythmbox or anyway I want. On removing the drive, it stalls on "writing data to disk" then fails
[20:58] <xananax> Through command line, if I "sync" before "sudo eject", it also stalls
[20:58] <DJ> xananax, remember eject the device, every time you'll eject the device,
[20:58] <DJ> if not you'll break the device
[20:58] <nicofs> gmachine_24, "Ericsson Business Mobile Networks BV F3307 Mobile Broadband Module"
[20:58] <xananax> DJ: It's *not* ejecting, this is my problem
[20:59] <lglcrtnd> I would love to open the packege management program, but it dosent. Anyhelp?
[20:59] <xananax> It refuses to eject
[20:59] <beandog> xananax: try umount -l
[20:59] <DJ> xananax, eject /dev/sdb1 or whatever the device is,
[20:59] <nicofs> DJ, skype is not possible...
[20:59] <DJ> nicofs, for calling it is,
[20:59] <Xintruder> is there a site I can get ubuntu as an image, quickly?
[20:59] <beandog> Xintruder: turnkey linux
[20:59] <xananax> beandog, DJ, it won't work if I "sync" before, and if I don't "sync" (I mean the command sync from command-line), the changes are not written to disk
[20:59] <xananax> it just stalls
[21:00] <Xintruder> beandog:  thx
[21:00] <nicofs> DJ, no, technically out - wrong processor architecture...
[21:00] <beandog> Xintruder: what is source and desintation again?
[21:00] <xananax> The only way I was able to make it work was to remount it with "sync" option (by default USBs are mounted async)
[21:00] <DJ> xananax, try umount
[21:00] <xananax> So I am looking for a way to change the default behaviour
[21:00] <DJ> the device
[21:00] <Xintruder> beandog: i don't understand what u mean
[21:01] <xananax> DJ: It doesn't work
[21:01] <beandog> Xintruder: what device are you copying from to
[21:01] <xananax> DJ: sudo umount does not work
[21:01] <DJ> any errors at all xananax ?
[21:01] <beandog> Xintruder: oh wait, wrong dude.
[21:01] <maximilius> the image i get from ddrescue - can i mount it later like a cdrom?
[21:01] <Xintruder> beandog: I'm not copying from, I want to download a ready configured virtual machine
[21:01] <beandog> Xintruder: right
[21:01] <DJ> xananax, are you putting the /device?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> maximilius: you can loop mount it like an ISO
[21:01] <DJ> on the umount?
[21:02] <ghostconn> for some reason i my max resolution is 1920x1200? I have a ati 4870 with a 24"led monitor lol...... also my cairo-dock has a black box around it.. I have the amd/ati drivers installed and they are active
[21:02] <maximilius> awesome
[21:02]  * maximilius dances around happily
[21:02] <nicofs> beandog, i want to put my SIM-card into my device and use it to make and receive calls...
[21:02] <beandog> Xintruder: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/core
[21:02] <beandog> nicofs: oh okay, can't help you there
[21:04] <nicofs> I know that wammu can send and receive SMS - I use it and it works... but i can't use it to make or receive calls. it doesn't even notify me if i miss any...
[21:04] <BobMarley> if my cpu is not supporting virtualization, then do i need to install the kvm in order to put the qemu to work? or to be able to make with qemu a ubuntu host system?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> maximilius: I'd look into a backup regime, kills the need for this sort of thing...
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  not all mobile phones support all the wammu functionalities, i use it too
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  http://wammu.eu/phones/
[21:06] <nicofs> MonkeyDust, I'm not talking about mobile phones - i want to turn my pc into one via the integrated 3g module...
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> ok
[21:07] <meerkats> what happened to my window configuration? I cannot see 12 files or folders in a row anymore: just 10 or 14...
[21:07] <daftykins> nicofs: not sure they're designed for that
[21:07] <sburwood1> How do I install / compile GIT for MTP for my tablet to connect to my ubuntu desktop?
[21:07] <meerkats> must be compiz related I believe
[21:07] <sburwood1> http://sourceforge.net/users/snirkel/
[21:08] <nicofs> I'm tired of constantly shifting my SIM card between phone and pc (mobile internet plan...) - when my pc can theoretically handle calls and my bluetooth headset couldn't care less which device it's connected to...
[21:09] <raydog45000> Where can I find NetWork Manager on Ubuntu Desktop 11.10?
[21:09] <Mike9863> For whatever reason icons are showing up in menus and on buttons. How can I disable this?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  wammu uses your phones functionalities, it is not a stand alone program
[21:10] <[Si]> nicofs: if it's 3g modem for a pc I've not found one with voice hardware in it
[21:10] <sburwood1> anyone wanna help?
[21:10] <nicofs> [Si], when my device was still running android, it could make calls...
[21:11] <[Si]> nicofs: sorry misunderstood it was a usb/minipci for pc type device.
[21:12] <maximilius> how do i get the data dump from ddrescue into the right format to burn it to a dvd?
[21:12] <daftykins> raydog45000: pretty sure network manager is always running to give you a network connection, what specifically are you wanting to do?
[21:13] <mithrop> sburwood1: what is your problem exactly ? really not sure I can help, but maybe asking you're question in another way can help somebody else to understand what is the issue.
[21:13] <raydog45000> My computer won't connect to the internet over the ethernet cable, the cable and internet work but when I look on ubuntu it says cable unplugged
[21:13] <gnuskool> hi, I can ping eth0 and eth1, but not my external router connected to eth0, what could be the issue?
[21:14] <raydog45000> How do I access the Network Manager GUI
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  cable or wifi?
[21:14] <[Si]> raydog45000 if you press the super key (windows/mac key on your keyboard) then type network connections that's network managers config
[21:14] <ghostconn> for some reason i cannot set my resolution to 1920x1080? the max I can get is 1920x1200
[21:15] <ghostconn>  for some reason i cannot set my resolution to 1920x1080? the max I can get is 1920x1200
[21:15] <[Si]> ghostconn: 1920x1080 is 16:9 lower res than 1920x1200 16:10 ratio
[21:15] <meerkats> can anyone tell me why there are no changes after setting the default icon size to 50%?
[21:15] <meerkats> for folders and files
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: try running:  nautilus -q   in an ALT+F2
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: may be:  nautilus -k
[21:16] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: ext router is adsl, eth0 is ect, eth1 internal and an AP attahed to dhcp on eth1. So all wireless clients get IPs and can ping 1 and 2 but not the router
[21:17] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, do updates work better if Insert the 11.10 usb stick while updating?
[21:18] <buhman> I have modified rc.local, and when I execute rc.local, it works just fine
[21:18] <buhman> but it doesn't seem to be being executed on boot
[21:18] <buhman> or during runlevel changes
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: if you add it as a source, possibly (assuming you are using Oneiric and the online versions are not later than the ones on the USB storage)
[21:19] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: sorry, not so clear - the wireless clients can ping eth0 and eth1, but not the router
[21:19] <Shinobi> If I have a hard link to a file are the two identical except for name? Or is the "link" different from the "file"?
[21:19] <leo-unglaub> hi, how can i disable the globalmenu in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> leo-unglaub: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support please
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  is the router also dhcp, does it provide ip addresses?
[21:20] <leo-unglaub> ActionParsnip: oh, sorry
[21:21] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, whats the difference runnig nautilus -q from ALT-F2 and from the terminal?
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  with terminal you see what happens
[21:22] <gilmore> Shinobi: See:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-unixlinux-symbolic-soft-and-hard-links.html
[21:23] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: yes, on the 192.168.0 subnet - eth0 has a static ip on the same subnet and eth1 is on 192.168.1... subnet where it allocates IPs to wireless clients
[21:24] <maximilius> how do i get the data dump from ddrescue into the right format to burn it to a dvd?
[21:24] <gilmore> mkisofs
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  what's the outcome of dig? and of route? use pastebin to show the channel
[21:25] <gilmore> qman mkisofs
[21:25] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: problem is, though those clients get an ip with gateway address and can ping eth0, they cant ping the router on the same subnet
[21:25] <Shinobi> gilmore: thanks. Do you know if a files inode will change during the files lifetime. (Assuming I don't move it to another filesystem.)
[21:25] <[Si]> gnuskool does the router know how to route back?
[21:25] <silentz0r> does ubuntu patch the nvidia drivers?
[21:25] <silentz0r> proprietary ones.
[21:26] <daftykins> they don't touch them at all, as far as i understand
[21:26] <gilmore> Shinobi: It won't change unless you change it.
[21:26] <daftykins> they update the nouveau ones indirectly, though
[21:26] <Shinobi> Shinobi: Sweet. Thanks.
[21:26] <gnuskool> Si, dont think so - but Im not in front of it at the moment to check
[21:26] <Shinobi> gilmore: Sweet. Thanks.
[21:26] <[Si]> gnuskool: that's why it won't respond to ping it doesn't know how to get back to <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[21:27] <silentz0r> do devs have access to the source of nvidia prop. drivers? If not, how would they patch it?
[21:27] <beandog> silentz0r: yah they are available for download
[21:27] <beandog> it's a mix been a proprietary module and a small build wrapper
[21:27] <gnuskool> Si, i put in a static route from <IP_ADDRESS> to 192.168.0 subnet
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  isnt <IP_ADDRESS> the router's ip address?
[21:28] <[Si]> you need that both ways
[21:28] <silentz0r> beandog: so you reckon I shouldn't just download the nvidia drivers from nvidia's website and install them?
[21:28] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: Im not infront of it right now, but when I did that I got the router ip <IP_ADDRESS> eth1 and <IP_ADDRESS> eth0
[21:28] <beandog> silentz0r: no, I think that'd be fine
[21:29] <beandog> silentz0r: ideally you get it from ubuntu though
[21:29] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: no, <IP_ADDRESS> is the server address, it is behind a router
[21:29] <silentz0r> beandog: i'm using an old ubuntu, and I need the latest driver (295.33)
[21:29] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: it has 2 NICs
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  take note and check later: the commands dig and route
[21:30] <gilmore> gnuskool: <IP_ADDRESS> is not a valid IP
[21:30] <beandog> silentz0r: yah should work
[21:30] <maximilius> when i convert the data from ddrescue with mkisofs i receive one huge file but not access to the actual data