[09:27] <randoman> you guys know a list of these, so i can aptget them?
[09:27] <cronic> it's for a test server environment
[09:27] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: but if you've stopped gdm then I doubt you'll find anything
[09:27] <jonathan_> the LTS version will be at 2008
[09:27] <m0u5e> tanath: hope they finish up the xubuntu composite manager
[09:27] <dystopianray> cronic: well you'll need another wifi card then
[09:27] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: my bet is that it will suddenly jump when it hits 1024MB
[09:27] <xtknight> cronic, you dont need to run a 64bit vm under a 64bit host
[09:27] <ParaDoX34690> killroy_2: yeah... um... okay... I'm still a noob bro :) but I'll try it :D
[09:27] <tanath> m0u5e, you using CF now?
[09:27] <ParaDoX34690> heaven hates a coward
[09:27] <m0u5e> tanath: i dont even need the wobbly windows... i just want dodge and window organization features :(
[09:27] <Axioo> xtknight: Any idea when is the next LTS goung to be released ? Or is it near the end of 6.06 (Dapper)
[09:27] <compwiz> randoman, there are too many of them, but if you _really_ want to install all of the -dev, open synaptic and search for -dev in package name, then press ctrl-a and mark them all for install, then press apply
[09:28] <tanath> i'd use that settings manager anyway. best i've seen for it
[09:28] <m0u5e> tanath: lol i can barely get compiz to run well :X
[09:28] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: it's ok, we were all noobs once
[09:28] <cronic> xtknight - are you sure? I cannot run 64bit under my 32bit windows host
[09:28] <xtknight> cronic, i ran a 64bit xp under my ubuntu 32 just fine actually
[09:28] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Any guesses as to what could be causing it?
[09:28] <tanath> m0u5e, i like the negative & put plugins. zoom too
[09:28] <randoman> k
[09:28] <m0u5e> tanath: im on a i815/845/855 integrated graphics card :(
[09:28] <tanath> m0u5e, no probs here
[09:28] <xtknight> Axioo, probably 8.04
[09:28] <ParaDoX34690> killroy_2: thank you, oh wise mantis
[09:28] <cronic> Thanks xtknight - I'll have to mess with it more tomorrow.
[09:28] <tanath> m0u5e, i have an old ati 9800 pro :P
[09:28] <xtknight> Axioo, 2008/april?
[09:28] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: I'd stay up with you, but I have to go to bed.  YOu might try searching google for "ubuntu envy" and downloading Envy 0.9.5.  It takes care of everything
[09:28] <cronic> Thank you as well dystopianray.
[09:28] <m0u5e> tanath: whenever i run video, everything *slooooooowwss down
[09:28] <cronic> have a good night all
[09:28] <m0u5e> tanath: 9800 pro OLD? thats not old!
[09:28] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: though the peeps at #compiz-fusion seem to dislike envy
[09:28] <tanath> sure it is :P
[09:29] <m0u5e> tanath:  :/
[09:29] <xtknight> !lts
[09:29] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[09:29] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: you might say they are envious?  (bah... getting late)
[09:29] <Neural_Overload> tanath, I cant get Beryl to work, I think it was you who told me to try to restart
[09:29] <rafli> jamaah
[09:29] <rafli> #jamaah
[09:29] <ParaDoX34690> killroy_2: i'll check it out, thanks for the pointer. get some sleep... i should be too, but I've been trying to figure this out for days...
[09:29] <tanath> Neural_Overload, uh, i don't think so, but why not use CF rather than beryl?
[09:29] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: absolutely none, so i'm gonna try to change the database file per hand and see if i can make it go wrong.
[09:29] <killroy_2> Paraf
[09:29] <killroy_2> ParaDoX34690: I know how it can be.  Download Envy.  If you have a supported card, it will get you going
[09:29] <Neural_Overload> tanath, whats the difference between CF and beryl?
[09:30] <killroy_2> Parad
[09:30] <tanath> beryl is being merged back into compiz to make compiz-fusion
[09:30] <Axioo> xtknight: Oh ... that's quite long ... I have 6.06 in my hand and 7.04 on it's way, which one do you recomend me to install?
[09:30] <tanath> @ Neural_Overload
[09:30] <killroy_2> Neural_Overload: not much, but the settings manager is diff and there are a lot more effects with cf
[09:30] <ian_> how do you create playlists in banshee?
[09:30] <Neural_Overload> killroy_2, Oh
[09:30] <wers> hi ian_
[09:30] <ian_> hi
[09:30] <killroy_2> Neural_Overload: and CF is still alpha
[09:30] <m0u5e> axioo 7.04
[09:31] <m0u5e> Axioo: definitely 7.04 lol
[09:31] <killroy_2> Neural_Overload: can be kinda tricky, depending on video
[09:31] <wers> ian_: have you tried rhythmbox?
[09:31] <tanath> Neural_Overload, eventually beryl will 'become' compiz-fusion
[09:31] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: as well as this, there was a change in how BLIMIT was handled in the 2.6.17 kernel, so that could also be changing things
[09:31] <Axioo> !8.04
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 8.04 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <ian_> no
[09:31] <xtknight> Axioo, wait for 7.04
[09:31] <Neural_Overload> tanath, I see
[09:31] <xtknight> Axioo, err
[09:31] <xtknight> Axioo, install 7.04
[09:31] <tanath> Neural_Overload, beryl is being merged back into compiz to make compiz-fusion
[09:31] <wers> ian_, alt+F2 rhythmbox
[09:32] <Neural_Overload> tanath, Yeah, thats what I read
[09:32] <m0u5e> xtknight: i hear kde4 is coming out with 8.04 :D
[09:32] <wers> !banshee | ian_
[09:32] <ubotu> ian_: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:32] <Gruelius_> how do i reinstall packages
[09:32] <xtknight> m0u5e, eh?  didnt know that
[09:32] <Gruelius_> and get it to recreate all the config files
[09:32] <tanath> i'm running CF from trevino's repos, and it's basically just like updates to beryl
[09:32] <xtknight> well i better get some sleep holycrap
[09:32] <Gruelius_> apt-get remove/install does jack all
[09:32] <m0u5e> xtknight: i remember reading it somewhere on their website...
[09:32] <m0u5e> xtknight: hope they finish up integrated composite managing!
[09:32] <Neural_Overload> xtknight, Night
[09:32] <tanath> xtknight, night
[09:33] <m0u5e> xtknight: night :D
[09:33] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: I don't know what BLIMIT is ;[
[09:33] <tanath> m0u5e, isn't gutsy s'posed to do that?
[09:33] <ian_> what will i do after opening rhythm box?
[09:33] <|_ocke> ok i REALLY need to get my nvidia driver installled
[09:33] <m0u5e> tanath: hopefully, but at this rate... 6_6;
[09:33] <Axioo> mouse: I'm ordering 7.04 cd and it's on it's way, if I install 6.06 now and do a clean install again when 7.04 arrived, will it damaged my dual boot (with Windows XP SP2)?
[09:33] <|_ocke> i have 7.04 working right now, i am running kernel 2.6.20-whatever
[09:34] <tanath> ian_, i think you'll find amarok is one of the best media players, if not the best
[09:34] <|_ocke> can ANYONE help me get this driver installed, it is saying it cant create /usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/whatever and dosemu has NOTHIGN do with installing the driver
[09:34] <ian_> i don't have amarok
[09:34] <tanath> ian_, otherwise you might try 'listen' for gnome. similar to amarok. almost as good
[09:34] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: what are you trying to do?
[09:34] <tanath> ian_, no reason you can't install it is there?
[09:34] <compwiz> ian_, exaile is also good
[09:34] <SwiftNomAd> Hey gUys.
[09:34] <m0u5e> ian: i agree with tanath
[09:35] <tanath> compwiz, i disagree :-/
[09:35] <|_ocke> in fact, i removed dosemu so it doesnt even exist to cause problems, but it still is giving errors about not being able to create /usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/lib/whatever
[09:35] <compwiz> tanath, really? I use it all the time
[09:35] <IndyGunFreak> amarok is best for IPODs i think
[09:35] <tanath> m0u5e, of course you do :P
[09:35] <corevette> i have xgl as my default session, how do i disable xgl temporarily
[09:35] <m0u5e> ian_: listen is good, ive used exaile and i like it, but its a little buggy
[09:35] <tanath> compwiz, i tried it after using amarok, and was less than impressed
[09:35] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: what are you trying to do?
[09:35] <SwiftNomAd> =X
[09:35] <m0u5e> ian_: listen at least will tell you if it can't play the file *before you try to play it and crashes
[09:35] <ian_> i don't have those
[09:35] <compwiz> tanath, amarok is by far the best, but exaile is for GTK
[09:35] <tanath> compwiz, supposed to be the amarok of gnome, but it doesn't live up to the name yet
[09:35] <ian_> the amarok
[09:36] <killroy_2> !ask
[09:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:36] <noodles12> corevette: just when you sign in at the gdm. change your session to regular gnome
[09:36] <compwiz> tanath, well it has all the features I use so :)
[09:36] <tanath> compwiz, i think listen does a better job of living up to that title
[09:36] <SwiftNomAd> My keyboAArd AAdds extrAA Letters
[09:36] <J_5> I installed version 5.10, upgraded to 7.4. Now when I boot up, i see 4 kernels. Is this ok? Should I just leave those put
[09:36] <m0u5e> ian_: if you use gnome, dont install amorak -__-; it installs a bunch of K stuff (and for me at least, was buggy as hell)
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> compwiz: biggest problem is, exaile, doesn't support IPODs, wish it did.
[09:36] <corevette> noodles12: my regular gnome is xgl
[09:36] <SwiftNomAd> sometimes it wiLL work if inn CAAps or IDK
[09:36] <dystopianray> SwiftNomAd: stop holding the keys down
[09:36] <compwiz> IndyGunFreak, I don't own an iPod :D
[09:36] <ian_> i'm a newbie
[09:36] <m0u5e> IndyGunFreak: theres a DAAP plugin
[09:36] <ian_> i want a good media player
[09:36] <IndyGunFreak> m0u5e: horsehockey, it works fine with Gnome.
[09:36] <compwiz> ian_, try amarok
[09:36] <dystopianray> ian_: amarok is the best music player
[09:36] <SwiftNomAd> Im not its this daamn keyboAAd
[09:36] <Axioo> mouse: I'm ordering 7.04 cd and it's on it's way, if I install 6.06 now and do a clean install again when 7.04 arrived, will it damaged my dual boot (with Windows XP SP2)?
[09:37] <ian_> where can i get it
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: amarok is good, rhythmbox is pretty good.
[09:37] <Neural_Overload> I have lurker tendancies :P
[09:37] <compwiz> ian_, in the package manager
[09:37] <SwiftNomAd> thAAts why I AAAsk
[09:37] <tanath> m0u5e, pfft. i use amarok in gome without probs.. mostly. sometimes the tray icon floats, but oh well
[09:37] <m0u5e> Axioo: it shouldn't ... dunno why you wouldnt just want to wait though :D
[09:37] <noodles12> corevette: oh. sorry i dunno then. I have 2 different sessions. one is XGL and one is just regular gnome which i switch out of if i want beryl or not
[09:37] <m0u5e> tanath: i call that a problem :/
[09:37] <anders__> Is there someone, who knows how I get "Cedega CVS" via "WineCVS" to work?
[09:37] <Frogzoo> ian_: media as in sound or video?
[09:37] <m0u5e> tanath: its slower too
[09:37] <wers> ian_, Applications--> Add/Remove
[09:37] <ian_> sound
[09:37] <tanath> m0u5e, i call it a feature... i use the put plugin to zoom it around the screen :D
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> m0u5e: ?.. thats not a problem, all you have to do is remove it from the tray, just like 90% of the apps on Windows and several on Gnome/KDE.
[09:38] <tanath> ian_, then you want amarok
[09:38] <m0u5e> You all might not feel the difference, but on *THIS* machine where i have to scrape to get everything running reletively smoothly, non-native libraries can make or break my apps :(
[09:38] <ian_> yes
[09:38] <ian_> how will I get it?
[09:38] <tanath> ian_, ever installed any new apps before?
[09:38] <ian_> none
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> m0u5e: then thats fine, but don't say its crap for that reason, it just apparently isn't for you.. but its probably the best media program out there
[09:38] <m0u5e> ian_: wonderful day! FANFARE! first app install time!
[09:38] <tanath> !install
[09:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[09:38] <ian_> but its in the add or remove right?
[09:38] <tanath> arg
[09:38] <m0u5e> IndyGunFreak: its true though, ive had bad experience with amorak on gnome :/
[09:38] <tanath> ian_, yep
[09:38] <SwiftNomAd> CCAAAn someone heLLLp me??
[09:38] <SwiftNomAd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522811
[09:38] <ian_> i saw amarok already
[09:39] <ian_> then what?
[09:39] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, do you have a spare keyboard?
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> m0u5e: then you've done something wrong .., i've always used it with gnome, never a problem...
[09:39] <tanath> ian_, k, right click on it, and choose install
[09:39] <wers> ian_ tick the check box
[09:39] <tanath> er, or that
[09:39] <tanath> i'm thinking of synaptic
[09:39] <m0u5e> IndyGunFreak: IMO anyway, its also feature bloated :(
[09:39] <ian_> after I checked it?
[09:39] <ian_> then what?
[09:39] <Axioo> mouse: coz i need to run ubuntu as soon as possible, but i'd like to have the latest also ... ordering said could take 4 - 6 weeks, i ordered 1 week sgo ..
[09:39] <wers> hahahaha
[09:39] <wers> oam. click apply on  the lower right
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> m0u5e: well, you're opinion is losing face pretty quickly with me, as everythign you say is pretty much based on your personal experience, and overall, its completely false.
[09:40] <SwiftNomAd> Does AAnyonne knnow how to fix my keybord
[09:40] <SwiftNomAd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522811
[09:40] <dystopianray> Axioo: downloading feisty is not an option?
[09:40] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, do you have a spare keyboard?
[09:40] <tanath> m0u5e, a floating icon is worth using amarok :P
[09:40] <CPLWeeks> Just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my second HDD. I know I installed the grub loader but I'm not presented with the OS options at boot. It defaults to windows. Any idea why?
[09:40] <m0u5e> Axioo: but you're going to reinstall anyways right? what are you going to be using ubuntu for?
[09:40] <wers> ian_, click apply on the lower right
[09:40] <SwiftNomAd> No..
[09:40] <SwiftNomAd> =(
[09:40] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, do you have any other keyboards?
[09:40] <SwiftNomAd> No I wish.
[09:40] <m0u5e> tanath: it always crashed like crazy for me so i never really bothered
[09:40] <TBZ> sigh
[09:40] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, did you try rebooting?
[09:40] <tanath> m0u5e, any idea why?
[09:40] <m0u5e> tanath: besides i like using native apps, without having to install a bunch of other libs
[09:41] <tanath> m0u5e, try running it in a terminal or something?
[09:41] <m0u5e> tanath: dunno, maybe one of these days ill go back and try it
[09:41] <tanath> m0u5e, well, i use a few other kde apps too, like k3b
[09:41] <m0u5e> tanath: yeah, something came up, dont remember now though
[09:41] <tanath> m0u5e, it's not a big deal. just a few libs
[09:41] <Axioo> dystopianray: internet is poor in my neighboorhood <country> ...
[09:41] <m0u5e> tanath: i use graveman, it works well
[09:41] <SwiftNomAd> Yes and it still AAts like rzy annd the side keypds dont wnt to work and sometimes the eft right p or down dont wnt to work or deete
[09:41] <TBZ> Ok, I installed the nvidia x64 driver, I restart and get an X failure, it says that it failed to load the nvidia kernel module, when I installed the driver, I told it to make the module for me, what to do?
[09:41] <yangtao> sorry
[09:41] <tanath> m0u5e, well, maybe the newest version won't have that prob
[09:41] <m0u5e> tanath: it slows my comp down like crazy though :X
[09:41] <Neural_Overload> tanath, do kde apps run fairly well on ubuntu?
[09:41] <ian_> can someone help me
[09:41] <Jordanhatch> press *format* on your computer now
[09:41] <ian_> i'm a newbie
[09:42] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, did you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf recently?
[09:42] <ian_> i don't know what to do
[09:42] <Axioo> mouse: for office work and also some automation work that required linux as it's OS
[09:42] <m0u5e> Neural_Overload: they run well, just a little slower than native apps
[09:42] <chalcedony> does anyone use something for flow-charting?
[09:42] <tanath> Neural_Overload, of course... there's a whole kde based ubuntu... kubuntu
[09:42] <Jordanhatch> with a trout
[09:42] <yangtao> I `m Chinese
[09:42] <dystopianray> ian_: hurry up and ask your question
[09:42] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: just ask.
[09:42] <tanath> Neural_Overload, you can have both kde and gnome installed
[09:42] <ian_> how do i install
[09:42] <SwiftNomAd> Yes beCAuse I hAAve dUAAll sCreAns
[09:42] <chalcedony> Neural_Overload: works good
[09:42] <tanath> Neural_Overload, or as many desktop environments as you can hold, lol
[09:42] <ian_> i cliked apply
[09:42] <m0u5e> tanath: i dont like how it bloats your menus >.<
[09:42] <yangtao> are you Chinese?
[09:42] <SwiftNomAd> sorry for text CrAzY
[09:43] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, and this is when they keyboard started doing that?
[09:43] <Neural_Overload> tanath, do you have to have kde installed to run kde apps?
[09:43] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: did it install?
[09:43] <tanath> m0u5e, so just install the ones you want, and remove the ones you don't
[09:43] <tanath> Neural_Overload, nope
[09:43] <yangtao>
[09:43] <ian_> there's this option
[09:43] <SwiftNomAd> No, when I instAlll LINUX
[09:43] <tanath> Neural_Overload, i use amarok and a few other kde apps, but don't have it installed. just gnome for now
[09:43] <ian_> not authenticated
[09:43] <IndyGunFreak> !enter | ian_
[09:43] <ubotu> ian_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:43] <ian_> and others
[09:43] <TBZ> master_of_master: mastershrek?
[09:43] <Neural_Overload> tanath, Cool
[09:43] <ian_> oh....sorry
[09:43] <m0u5e> yangtao: try #ubuntu-cn if you need support in your native language
[09:43] <ian_> i don't know
[09:44] <Axioo> mouse: beside, I install it on my laptop with 1 HDD only, so I need to define some space first ...
[09:44] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: search synaptic, and see if it has a green dot beside it, showing its installed..
[09:44] <ian_> how do I search synaptic?
[09:44] <tanath> Neural_Overload, if you want to streamline things, you can install a lightweight desktop environment like icewm that'll load in a blink
[09:44] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, it never did this in Windows?
[09:44] <SwiftNomAd> Ive Used googLe And wont find Anything
[09:44] <Flannel> ian_: Go up to the 'search' and type your terms in
[09:44] <SwiftNomAd> no..
[09:44] <m0u5e> axioo: in my experience, unless your installing a bunch of crap, you only need  5 gigs for ubuntu (provided that your home is on a seperate partition)
[09:44] <chalcedony> does anyone use some kind of flow-charting software?
[09:44] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, do you still have windows installed?
[09:44] <tanath> Neural_Overload, then remove others you don't want, and just install whatever apps you want. you can customize everything you like
[09:45] <SwiftNomAd> Nope.
[09:45] <SwiftNomAd> =X
[09:45] <ian_> sorry, but where's search?
[09:45] <m0u5e> axioo: 4 for the operating system, and 1 for swap
[09:45] <Flannel> ian_: top menu bar?
[09:45] <ian_> the alt+f2?
[09:45] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, do you have the linux livecd?
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: at the top;?
[09:45] <SwiftNomAd> Yes.
[09:45] <Neural_Overload> tanath, I see
[09:45] <m0u5e> chalcedony: try the open office suite?
[09:45] <Flannel> ian_: No, in synaptic.  Do you have synapic open?
[09:45] <ian_> i don't know that
[09:45] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, you may want to put that in and see if the keyboard behaves weirdly
[09:46] <m0u5e> ian_: you want to install amarok right?
[09:46] <Flannel> ian_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: system menu, admin, then synaptic package manager
[09:46] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, if it does, the keyboard has a problem, most likely
[09:46] <chalcedony> m0u5e: i have OO i was looking for something maybe lighter, it's for reminders, guides for a help channel
[09:46] <ian_> yeah i got it right
[09:46] <Neural_Overload> Ill see you later guys, im gonna hit the sack
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: so you have synaptic open?
[09:46] <SwiftNomAd> Ok.. I will Check it out thAn.
[09:46] <ian_> yes
[09:46] <Neural_Overload> Im tired as heck
[09:46] <Axioo> mouse: I'm about to allocate 10 GB (6 Ubuntu + 1 Swap + 3 FAT32 <Windows & Ubuntu data share>)
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> i swear i think that add/remove programs menu entry on Gnome is stupid, confuses people who are used to windows.
[09:46] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, good luck :)
[09:46] <Walls7> what is the command to open xorg .conf?
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: do a search for amarok
[09:46] <tanath> Neural_Overload, i hear sleep is good for that :P
[09:46] <SwiftNomAd> I hope its not the CAse..
[09:46] <m0u5e> chalcedony: sorry then, im as in the dark as you :D
[09:47] <Neural_Overload> tanath, Indeed
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> Walls7: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:47] <bruenig> Walls7, sudo texteditor /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:47] <compwiz> Walls7, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:47] <SwiftNomAd> ThAnks COMWIZ
[09:47] <SwiftNomAd> rg
[09:47] <compwiz> SwiftNomAd, no problem :)
[09:47] <tanath> Neural_Overload, i'ma have to try it one of these days :D
[09:47] <SwiftNomAd> CyA
[09:47] <SwiftNomAd> =P
[09:47] <dibl> Hi All, I'm having a very surreal experience.... each time I reboot, I alternate between two views of my root disk/file system.  Any thoughts?
[09:47] <chalcedony> m0u5e: ive got something called 'sticky notes" that are cute.. but you can only have so many and still find what you want..
[09:47] <Walls7> compwiz, bruenig, IndyGunFreak: lol thanks
[09:47] <Neural_Overload> tanath, as late as it is where you are, you should have probably been in bed days ago
[09:47] <bullgard4> Are there in Ubuntu graphical frontends to general databases in addition to OO.o Base and phpMyadmin?
[09:47] <compwiz> Walls7, np
[09:47] <tanath> Neural_Overload, lol. work sucks
[09:47] <m0u5e> ian_: if you only want amarok, then you can type "sudo apt-get install amarok" into a terminal
[09:47] <dystopianray> dibl: exactly what is the difference between the two?
[09:47] <Neural_Overload> tanath, graveyard shift?
[09:47] <ian_> oh..i see
[09:47] <Axioo> mouse: I read on some dual boot installation manual for Dapper that I should specify my Ubuntu partition in the front following my Windows installation
[09:48] <dystopianray> bullgard4: kexi
[09:48] <tanath> Neural_Overload, afternoons. 'till 11:30
[09:48] <dibl> One "view" is an snapshot of my f/s the way it looked about 3 or 4 days ago.  The other "view" is the way it looked just after I installed the new kernel in preparation for reboot
[09:48] <Neural_Overload> tanath, Ah, I see
[09:48] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: did you find it in synaptic?
[09:48] <bullgard4> dystopianray: Doesn't kexi belogn to Kubuntu?
[09:48] <tanath> Neural_Overload, i have no idea why i'm still up. i came to get help, and ended up giving it, and blabbing with you guys
[09:49] <dystopianray> bullgard4: it comes by default with kubuntu, but it is an ubuntu package
[09:49] <Walls7> whats the thing if i want to re order OS's at GRUB?
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> tanath: thats how it always goes here...lol
[09:49] <m0u5e> chalcedony: hmm then dunno :D if you want something like sticky notes, i would've recommended tomboy sticky notes (in ubuntu) but seems like you've already tried that
[09:49] <Neural_Overload> tanath, I came to get help and ended up blabbing with you guys
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> Walls7: sudo geidt /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:49] <TBZ> Ok, I installed the nvidia x64 driver, I restart and get an X failure, it says that it failed to load the nvidia kernel module, when I installed the driver, I told it to make the module for me, what to do? Also, I downloaded the package straight from nvidia.com without package manager, and installed. So how can I delete/uninstall now?
[09:49] <tanath> IndyGunFreak, yeh. that's why i just give up sometimes
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[09:49] <bullgard4> dystopianray: Thank you for explaining.
[09:49] <tanath> Neural_Overload, yep. irc is evil that way :D
[09:49] <compwiz> Walls7, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:49] <Neural_Overload> tanath, IRC is like textual crack
[09:49] <tanath> lol
[09:50] <IndyGunFreak> Walls7: why do you need to edit your menu.lst?
[09:50] <m0u5e> tanath: lol all you have to do is ctrl+q :D
[09:50] <tanath> Neural_Overload, guess that explains why it's been around so long :P
[09:50] <chalcedony> m0u5e: maybe.. can tomboy notes be wider than 17 or so characters?
[09:50] <tanath> m0u5e, don't tell me that..
[09:50] <hunteke> TBZ: I think we dealt with this a couple of days ago
[09:50] <Neural_Overload> tanath, Haha true
[09:50] <m0u5e> chalcedony: yeah, they can be as long as they want :D
[09:50] <hunteke> TBZ: I can't remeber exactly, but look for a hidden file
[09:50] <Walls7> IndyGunFreak: im on dual boot so i can have ubuntu and windows, but i want windows to be the first, so it will defaultly go on windows
[09:50] <m0u5e> tanath: :P
[09:50] <hunteke> in . . .
[09:50] <Neural_Overload> tanath, I only learned about IRC about 2 years ago
[09:51] <IndyGunFreak> Walls7: ok...
[09:51] <chalcedony> m0u5e: umm mine get too long for the screen and you can't scroll down on them/
[09:51] <tanath> Neural_Overload, yeh, it takes some people a while to find it
[09:51] <IndyGunFreak> Walls7: no need to change the menu order, i actually woudnt' mess with it.
[09:51] <m0u5e> chalcedony: definitely try tomboy notes then, it comes with ubuntu
[09:51] <IndyGunFreak> just find the one that has "saveddefault", and delete it, and put that entry under Windows
[09:51] <tanath> Neural_Overload, most end up on msn and never leave... 'cause everyone else is on ther
[09:51] <tanath> e
[09:51] <dibl> Dystop: One "view" is a snapshot of my f/s the way it looked about 3 or 4 days ago.  The other "view" is the way it looked just after I installed the new kernel in preparation for reboot
[09:51] <Neural_Overload> tanath, There or Aim
[09:52] <m0u5e> chalcedony: just type sudo apt-get install tomboy
[09:52] <Neural_Overload> tanath, most of my friends are on aim
[09:52] <TBZ> !tomboy
[09:52] <tanath> Neural_Overload, thanks. i had forgotten about the very existence of aim, until you brought it up!
[09:52] <hunteke> TBZ: sorry, it's not coming to me
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomboy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <Neural_Overload> tanath, LOL your welcome
[09:52] <tanath> Neural_Overload, >:D
[09:52] <TBZ> hunteke: mmK
[09:52] <m0u5e> tanath / Neural_Overload: lol i have *both aim and msn :D
[09:53] <Neural_Overload> tanath, Im just glad I ditched gAyOL when I did
[09:53] <tanath> m0u5e, i have gaim and amsn
[09:53] <m0u5e> tanath: i just use gaim for both
[09:53] <tanath> Neural_Overload, i'm glad i learned not to use it before i had the chance :D
[09:53] <Neural_Overload> m0u5e, I use gaim
[09:53] <TBZ> hunteke: Why does it have to be such a b*sh to just get my vid working :'(>:o:'(
[09:53] <m0u5e> tanath: god ubuntu repos, hurry up and backport pidgin :(
[09:53] <tanath> m0u5e, amsn is better for msn
[09:53] <chalcedony> m0u5e: i typed tomboy notes and i've got it, it imported 15 of my other notes as it opened, whatever that means?
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> Gaim/Pidgin is Instant messaging nirvana
[09:53] <Neural_Overload> tanath, It wasnt my choice when I had it :P
[09:53] <hunteke> TBZ: multiple answers
[09:53] <Neural_Overload> So true
[09:54] <m0u5e> tanath: but that means a seperate client :(
[09:54] <chalcedony> m0u5e: is there a how-to ?
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: did you get amarok installed?
[09:54] <m0u5e> chalcedony: the very first note that pops up should be a how to guide :D
[09:54] <chalcedony> IndyGunFreak: have we got the same program? no dcc ?
[09:54] <ian_> it's not yet done but it's in 26 out of 26
[09:54] <tanath> TBZ, there's things better than tomboy
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> chalcedny: i love pidgin.., i don't dcc.
[09:54] <hunteke> TBZ: try this though: ls /var/log/ and look for an Xorg.log file
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> ian_: ok, so its installing.
[09:55] <TBZ> Well, I've tried the restricted drivers, no luck. Now, I tried the latest driver, no luck. Is there a way I can just repair kernel module? Or somehow make it for the new drivers?
[09:55] <chalcedony> m0u5e: um? Start Here
[09:55] <chalcedony> Welcome to Tomboy!
[09:55] <chalcedony> Use this page as a Start Page for organizing your notes and keeping unorganized ideas around.
[09:55] <hunteke> TBZ: then do 'grep EE /var/log/[xorgfile] '
[09:55] <chalcedony> tanath: like?
[09:55] <predaeus> TBZ, what graphics card do you have?
[09:55] <m0u5e> chalcedony: is there no help?
[09:55] <chalcedony> m0u5e: doesn't seem so
[09:55] <tanath> chalcedny, zim
[09:55] <m0u5e> hmm try opening a term and typing man tomboy, or tomboy --help
[09:56] <chalcedony> hmm tanath ok ill google that
[09:56] <chalcedony> ok m0u5e  good idea
[09:56] <chalcedony> hehe
[09:56] <Neural_Overload> chalcedny, whats the problem?
[09:56] <hunteke> haha
[09:56] <cressie176> Hi. Where's the best place to set JAVA_HOME? /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/environment? What difference does it make? Thx
[09:56] <TBZ> 8800GTS
[09:56] <Neural_Overload> chalcedony, Whats the problem?
[09:56] <bruenig> cressie176, in /etc/profile
[09:56] <hunteke> *nix is great for those though, eh?
[09:56] <hunteke> let me see
[09:56] <chalcedony> Neural_Overload: i'm looking for something a little more robust for notes than the sticky notes i have
[09:57] <chalcedony> Neural_Overload: tomboy notes doesn't seem to have a how-to
[09:57] <m0u5e> hey, i hear java is designing something called looking glass
[09:57] <m0u5e> anyone hear anything about it?
[09:57] <tanath> chalcedony, i tried a few and settled on zim, and sticky notes (which i think is just a gnome applet)
[09:57] <Neural_Overload> chalcedony, once you open tomboy look by your clock
[09:57] <predaeus> TBZ, I think that one is neither supported by the nvidia-glx, nor the nvidia-glx-new package. Might need to install nvidia drivers yourself. Or is that what you tried.
[09:57] <hunteke> how does that go, something like: Why geeks like computers: unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes, fsck, fsck, fsck, umount, sleep.
[09:57] <ubunt1> !outlook
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about outlook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <cressie176> thanks bruenig. Still confused as to why one place is better than another - googled and different guides suggested different places
[09:57] <ubunt1> !PIM
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <Lunis> can anyone suggest some information/howtos on multiple x servers on one machine to server multiple monitors?
[09:58] <Neural_Overload> chalcedony, there should be a little yellow post-it type icon. Left click it and click "create new note".
[09:58] <tanath> !zim
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <m0u5e> !m$
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m$ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <bruenig> cressie176, /etc/environment is an exclusively ubuntu/debian thing, I have never seen it in any distro and for quite a while I am pretty sure it didn't do anything at all in ubuntu
[09:58] <TBZ> predaeus: That's what I tried...
[09:58] <m0u5e> !microsoft
[09:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:58] <chalcedony> Neural_Overload: ahh ok
[09:58] <Madpilot> !msgthebot
[09:58] <hunteke> TBZ: did you grep for EE?
[09:58] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:58] <tanath> lol
[09:58] <chalcedony> i thought that was from my other sticky notes
[09:58] <TBZ> hunteke: I have two log files, one regular and one .old
[09:58] <Neural_Overload> chalcedony, Yeah, I just figured it out haha thats how come I know
[09:59] <chalcedony> hehe Neural_Overload :))
[09:59] <tanath> chalcedony, i'd still recommend trying zim
[09:59] <ubunt1> !video
[09:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:59] <TBZ> All it says is that it failed to load the nvidia kernel module or something of that sort on error report.
[09:59] <bruenig> tanath, do you mean notes for classes?
[09:59] <Neural_Overload> chalcedony, the little how to thing was a little vague on the description lol
[09:59] <tanath> bruenig, notes for whatever...
[09:59] <xoRock> need help, i try to attach dosemu to netware server, load LSL, IPX is loaded, it shows time and attach to server but it stuck after that, any clue?
[09:59] <TBZ> When I ran the install, it tried to search for a kernel module, it said that it didn't find one, then would build one for me auto. And well, I guess it just didn't work
[09:59] <hunteke> did you do any editing of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file yourself, TBZ?
[09:59] <ian_> amarok is done already...how do i use it?
[10:00] <bruenig> tanath, I have been looking for a good class note taking application, I figured I would just go with word processor unless there is something better, tomboy and the like are glorified stickies, not really into that
[10:00] <tanath> bruenig, http://pardus-larus.student.utwente.nl/%7Epardus/projects/zim/screenshots.shtml
[10:00] <tanath> that's what zim looks like
[10:00] <hunteke> TBZ, /msg me the exact output of the grep command of the newest file
[10:00] <|_ocke> zim!?
[10:00] <|_ocke> like the zim!?
[10:00] <tanath> it's better than it appears
[10:00] <|_ocke> from #emu?
[10:00] <tanath> |_ocke, not invader zim :P
[10:00] <predaeus> TBZ, there is a separate installer log file somewhere for the nvidia installer
[10:00] <Neural_Overload> tanath, m0u5e Im going to bed guys.  I am going to stay with my OO.o Office. When installing kexi, would I have to install a lot of general-purpose KDE program packages also?
[10:02] <|_ocke> i chatted with him on a personal level every day for like 6-8 years
[10:02] <TBZ> hunteke: Yes I modified the xorb.conf to show "nvidia" as driver instead of the old nv
[10:02] <tanath> chalcedony, sudo aptitude install zim && zim
[10:02] <TBZ> hunteke: and let me paste bin this real quick
[10:02] <m0u5e> neural_overload: hehe me too :D night
[10:03] <tanath> lol
[10:03] <satish> hello
[10:03] <daleach> On startup when my machine tried to run a periodic disk scan it gave some error about couldn't read swap partition and continued on...thought that was real strange (not sure if I can read a log of that error message?) when I enter "free" on the shell I get 3 zeros for the swap memory
[10:03] <satish> anyone there
[10:04] <TBZ> hunteke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33312/
[10:04] <chalcedony> tanath: Open repository???
[10:04] <satish> watsthat
[10:04] <tanath> chalcedony, hmm?
[10:04] <Dim45> lk
[10:04] <aldin> how can i tell kernel not to load some driver (during install)
[10:04] <chalcedony> tanath: a square window opened it says Open Reository - Zim and gives choices Help CAnce and Open, Add Change Remove
[10:05] <chalcedony> sez Please choose a Repository
[10:05] <m0u5e> deleach: was this disk check in windows?
[10:05] <tanath> chalcedony, oh, lol. i forgot about that. yeh i thought you meant it wasn't installed :P
[10:05] <bruenig> tanath, that is about the greatest find this channel has ever given me
[10:05] <daleach> m0u5e haha no
[10:05] <chalcedony> rofl tanath now what?
[10:05] <tanath> chalcedony, yeh, it's like a center point... like of a mind-map
[10:05] <m0u5e> daleach: then no idea :D
[10:05] <tanath> bruenig, zim?
[10:06] <tanath> chalcedony, make one, name it, use it
[10:06] <amet> hey
[10:06] <chalcedony> tanath: um i see maybe/
[10:06] <hunteke> TBZ: yeah, that's in line with pradaeus said about ti being not supported by glx
[10:06] <daleach> m0u5e I couldn't believe it either because I thought linux or at least ubuntu running in KDE etc.. would NEED some swap heh
[10:06] <hunteke> hmm
[10:06] <TBZ> hunteke: and yes, I have the nvidia install log, but, It is fairly large...
[10:06] <bruenig> tanath, I desperately wanted something that could save individual files, but wasn't a word processor for note taking
[10:06] <predaeus> TBZ, check /var/log/nvidia-installer.log if it thinks the installation succeeded.
[10:06] <m0u5e> daleach: unless you have 4 gigs of ram i dont see why your computer *wouldn't need swap 6_6;
[10:06] <daleach> I guess its just keeping it all in ram
[10:06] <tanath> bruenig, i actually found it from a comment on digg.com :)
[10:07] <hunteke> TBZ: what are the last few lines (tail /var/log/nvidia-installer.log
[10:07] <m0u5e> daleach: lol, you need swap for video editting though :(
[10:07] <predaeus> TBZ, just check the end
[10:07] <daleach> yeah no I have a swap partion i'm pretty sure
[10:07] <tanath> bruenig, suited my needs best too
[10:07] <predaeus> g
[10:07] <TBZ> hunteke: It does say that it was successfully installed
[10:07] <hunteke> hmm, okay so it's just a configuration issue then
[10:07] <hunteke> if it's going to work at all
[10:07] <m0u5e> daleach: you can check what your swap is, just type "swap" into a terminal or "free"
[10:07] <m0u5e> if it says 0k that means you have no swap allocated :X
[10:07] <m0u5e> or that your swap partition is wrongly assigned...
[10:07] <predaeus> TBZ, uninstall linux-restricted-modules and any nvidia-glx* packages and try to reinstall the nvidia installer/driver
[10:07] <daleach> I don't get anything for "swap"
[10:07] <daleach> you sure that's a valid command
[10:08] <daleach> as I already said when I enter free
[10:08] <daleach> i get 0, 0, 0 hah
[10:08] <hunteke> Predaeus: damn, was two seconds from hitting enter and suggesting the same thing. hehe
[10:08] <TBZ> hunteke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33313/
[10:08] <predaeus> TBZ, if it messes up, switch "nvidia" to "nv" to get into irc again.             g
[10:08] <Albitos_> hi all
[10:09] <TBZ> predaeus: Ok, and ya, that's what I did, that's why I'm in here now
[10:09] <hunteke> wait, are you in X right now, TBZ?
[10:09] <TBZ> Ya
[10:09] <TBZ> I did the switch to NV
[10:09] <hunteke> TBZ: oh haha, right
[10:09] <lnx^> hey, i'm thinking of getting a zyxel G-220 usb wifi dongle to be able to share my ubuntu's internet connection with a wlan device (the dongle would work as an AP). should it work, or are there any better devices i should consider? i saw that the zyxel needs a windows program 'zyxel utility' at least for configuration - does anyone happen to know if it's needed only for configuration, or also for running the AP?
[10:09] <hunteke> TBZ: was confused for a sec
[10:09] <TBZ> I had the same problem last time I tried to install with restricted drivers =/ I at least learned how to get back in
[10:10] <m0u5e> gah, flash doesnt work well on my comp :(
[10:10] <TBZ> ! WTS 8800GTS Dirt Cheap
[10:10] <m0u5e> it lags my browser and randomly freezes
[10:10] <hunteke> TBZ: well, clearly you aren't an old dog, then, eh?  hmm, the log seems to be in order as far as I can tell (but I'm no expert)
[10:10] <predaeus> TBZ, I also often had problems when switching back and forth from nvidia/installer and packages, no idea what it is messing up. Unfortunately I do not know the details about what files are installed where and so on.
[10:10] <chalcedony> tanath: m0u5e do either of these have the ability to do black background or anythiing non-white?
[10:10] <tanath> woah, wtf is wrong with people? would you permanently alter yourself to better use a mere gadget you'd only use temporarily?? this guy did: http://technologyexpert.blogspot.com/2007/08/did-someone-really-surgically-alter-his.html
[10:10] <Albitos> i have big problem =.= after ubuntu installation, system works few minutes and later gets freeze without any reason...
[10:11] <chovy> how do i enable ssh to the box from local network?
[10:11] <Albitos> i tried ubuntu 7.04, 6.06
[10:11] <m0u5e> chalcedony: you talking about tomboy? dunno? :X
[10:11] <tanath> chalcedony, heh, i forgot about that. i use the negative plugin in compiz-fusion, so my colours are inverted. i see white text on a black background :D
[10:11] <hunteke> TBZ: have you had a chance to follow predaeus suggestion and remove the -glx stuff?
[10:11] <Albitos> and kubuntu 7.04
[10:11] <hunteke> chovy, are you sure it's enabled locally?
[10:11] <Albitos> everywhere same problem....
[10:11] <TBZ> predaeus: man, I have been working on this issue for past 2 days, it's basically the only thing holding me back, I'm willing to do anything to get it working
[10:11] <hunteke> chovy, ssh localhost works?
[10:11] <TBZ> hunteke: not yet, I'm going to do that now, I hope
[10:11] <Albitos> help?
[10:12] <chalcedony> tanath: how do i do that?
[10:12] <tanath> chalcedny, if you're going around trying to flip colours on things, might as well get something that lets you flip whatever you want :D
[10:12] <TBZ> should I mark them for complete removal?
[10:12] <tanath> chalcedony, install beryl, or compiz-fusion (if you're daring. it's in alpha). it's a composite window manager with lots of fancy effects, like a desktop cube
[10:12] <hunteke> no
[10:13] <hunteke> that'll remove the configuration files as well
[10:13] <tanath> chalcedony, wobbly windows, transparencies, etc.
[10:13] <hunteke> although if you haven't messed with them
[10:13] <hunteke> it won't matter
[10:13] <hunteke> you can just reinstall them later
[10:13] <hunteke> if you need to
[10:13] <chalcedony> ooh tanath i've been fairly happy with whatever this is
[10:13] <TBZ> hunteke: Ok, I think im going to go with full remove
[10:13] <hunteke> mmk
[10:14] <tanath> chalcedony, then, you can enable the negative plugin, and there's shortcuts to flip the colours on the screen, or just in one app
[10:14] <TBZ> hunteke: Even the "helper scripts"
[10:14] <tanath> chalcedny, meh, your loss
[10:14] <TBZ> hunteke: ?
[10:14] <chalcedony> tanath: if i mess it up my son will kill me
[10:14] <tanath> lol
[10:14] <hunteke> I don't know what those are, predaeus?
[10:14] <tanath> chalcedony, so make him do it :D
[10:14] <chalcedony> he's asleep
[10:14] <chalcedony> besides he doesn't like helping me
[10:14] <tanath> chalcedony, so make him do it later then :P
[10:15] <tanath> chalcedony, make him like it :P
[10:15] <chalcedony> tanath: you sound like a son
[10:15] <chrisellis> Hey guys im trying to install ubuntu on another HD and when i try to make a partition it says can't have the end before the start
[10:15] <tanath> chalcedony, would be if i had a dad :P
[10:15] <chrisellis> what does that mean
[10:15] <chalcedony> i'm a mom
[10:15] <hunteke> TBZ: well, as long as there in repository and you haven't made any changes to them, you aren't losing anything you can't get back but just reinstalling them, so it shouldn't matter
[10:15] <tanath> chalcedony, er, not that i'm a test-tube baby :P
[10:15] <TBZ> predaeus: Should I remove the linux-restricted-modules-comn as well?
[10:15] <chalcedony> tanath: i bet not!
[10:16] <tanath> chalcedony, can't be too sure nowadays though ;p
[10:16] <hunteke> TBZ: can you remove that? I'll bet you can't without removing a bunch of things, like ubuntu desktop, etc
[10:16] <BigMac> Hey, how do I load gtkrc files in ubuntu
[10:16] <BigMac> I dn't figure it out
[10:16] <hunteke> TBZ: if it's a single package removal, nothing lost you can get it back
[10:16] <predaeus> TBZ, hunteke, yes I would remove it too, like hunteke said you can just reinstall them if needed. And it is most likely only for the nvidia drivers.
[10:16] <chalcedony> tanath: i thought that didn't work out all hat well, there's the real deal :)
[10:16] <TBZ> Ok
[10:17] <TBZ> and should I remove via the synaptic?
[10:17] <tanath> chalcedony, hm?
[10:17] <hunteke> TBZ: as opposed to?
[10:17] <TBZ> apt?
[10:17] <hunteke> apt-get? that's the same thing
[10:17] <TBZ> K
[10:17] <hunteke> synaptic is just the user friendly version
[10:17] <wers> is there a way for me to control someone else's ubuntu box?
[10:17] <wers> I mean
[10:17] <wers> online
[10:18] <chalcedony> tanath: i've had 6 at home 1 in the hospital, i don't think you can do that from a test tube
[10:18] <wers> like remote asssistance
[10:18] <hunteke> TBZ: in fact, if you click show details, you'll see syntaptic uses apt behind the scenes
[10:18] <BigMac> I dn't figure it out
[10:18] <BigMac> Hey, how do I load gtkrc files in ubuntu
[10:18] <BigMac> I can't figure it out
[10:18] <tanath> chalcedony, i mean, i'm sure they can create people in a lab, basically parentless
[10:18] <BigMac> THe theme selector doesn't load them
[10:19] <Walls7> lol i forgot, what was the command to re order my OS's at GRUB?
[10:19] <chalcedony> tanath: nope
[10:19] <tanath> wers, yeh.
[10:19] <wers> how, tanath?
[10:19] <TBZ> Ok, I noticed that I also have multipe header files, should I sort them out and remove a few?
[10:19] <tanath> wers, System > Prefs > Remote desktop
[10:19] <bruenig> tanath, can you choose something other than Home for that first one
[10:20] <hunteke> TBZ: if we can't help you here tonight (what timezone are you in?!) then you might try #nvidia.  They seem to have a large number of folks, although quiet at the moment.
[10:20] <randoman> TBZ if you want to take the time :P
[10:20] <bruenig> tanath, nevermind
[10:20] <TBZ> I'm eastern
[10:20] <Walls7> what is the command that will let me re order my OS's at GRUB?
[10:20] <hunteke> thats -0400 as in America?
[10:20] <tanath> bruenig, :) glad you got it. i forget
[10:20] <TBZ> hunteke: -5, you?
[10:20] <hunteke> -0400
[10:20] <wers> what do I do in Remote desktop tanath? how do I access someone else's desktop?
[10:20] <hunteke> 4:20a here
[10:20] <BigMac> Hey, how do I load gtkrc files in ubuntu
[10:21] <BigMac> THe theme selector doesn't load them
[10:21] <bruenig>  tanath now if only you could make it use vim keybindings, that would be awesome
[10:21] <tanath> wers, well, the other person would go there, and enable it, then set up a password, and you could connect to them with that pass
[10:21] <randoman> hey guys, im a little unclear here on the dual2core, are the core each 2.6ghz or are they both working to achive 2.66 ghz?
[10:21] <tanath> bruenig, suggest it to the developer
[10:21] <randoman> because in system monitor it shows 2.66ghz for each core
[10:21] <TBZ> hunteke: Ok, now I removed those, do I need to reinstall? Or can I just switch back the "nvidia" in xorb.conf?
[10:21] <tanath> bruenig, or learn programming and implement it yourself :P
[10:22] <BigMac> Hey, how do I load gtkrc files in ubuntu
[10:22] <wers> tanath, when the other person enables it and I already know the pass, how do I connect to him? do I enter his IP on my browser or something?
[10:22] <hunteke> to be honest I don't know, I'm just trying things out
[10:22] <Walls7> what is the command to open that common file for GRUB? i think it was menu.lst or something
[10:22] <chalcedony> tanath: what's the command to get beryl  or compiz-fusion?
[10:22] <BigMac> Any reasonwhy Noboy has an answer
[10:22] <hunteke> predaeus pointed out that glx doesn't work
[10:22] <BigMac> it is a pretty common occurence
[10:22] <hunteke> so that's the first task
[10:22] <hunteke> get rid of glx
[10:22] <hunteke> and see if we can get it to work
[10:23] <nemik> is there any automatix or equivalent codec thing for gutsy?
[10:23] <TBZ> hunteke: K, I don't even know how to reinstall via the nvidia install, so I have to read how to do it
[10:23] <hunteke> no no, nvidia is still on your system, I think
[10:23] <Walls7> what is the command to open that common file for GRUB? i think it was menu.lst or something, because i want to re order my OS's at the startup page (running dual boot)?
[10:23] <hunteke> just not through the apt system
[10:23] <tanath> chalcedony, you'll have to add the repository first
[10:23] <BigMac> Hey, how do I load gtkrc files in ubuntu?
[10:23] <hunteke> TBZ: look in your xorg.conf
[10:24] <hunteke> do you see glx in there
[10:24] <hunteke> let me what the sections called . . .
[10:24] <tanath> wers, i'm not entirely sure. i haven't used it. you can google it though
[10:24] <chalcedony> tanath: i can see this is going to be challenging. he's refusing to replace my soundcard as it is
[10:24] <hunteke> it'd be in the Section "Module"
[10:24] <tanath> well, that's new hardware... not the same as installing an application
[10:24] <TBZ> hunteke: There is a Load "glx"
[10:24] <hunteke> okay
[10:24] <TBZ> hunteke: remove that?
[10:25] <hunteke> no
[10:25] <hunteke> but comment it
[10:25] <hunteke> put a '#' symbol
[10:25] <hunteke> at the beginning of that line
[10:25] <hunteke> that will tell X to ignore that line
[10:25] <hunteke> as it reads in the config info
[10:25] <TBZ> hunteke: K
[10:26] <hunteke> (if you remove it, then you'd have to remember what it was later if you needed to, and losing like 10 bytes in an era of half terabyte harddrives is manageable.  ;-) )
[10:26] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:26] <predaeus> TBZ, hunteke, I don't think you need to change anything in xorg.conf, or just run nvidia-xconfig if unsure, it will set it up for you. and create a backup automatically. I also think you can jsut run the nvidia installer to reinstall, not sure though. probably try "./nvidia-installe-file-thingy --help" for options
[10:26] <tanath> chalcedony, check this out: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/
[10:26] <ubuntu_> #matrik_ikip
[10:26] <tanath> chalcedny, it says you need to upgrade your graphics driver first, but that may not be necessary. i didn't
[10:27] <TBZ> predaeus: ok thanks
[10:27] <Walls7> what is the command to open Menu.lst?
[10:28] <hunteke> predaeus you going to be around for awhile?
[10:28] <hunteke> I've /got/ to go to bed
[10:28] <m0u5e> how do i shot web?
[10:28] <punsad> Walls7: editorname /etc/grub/menu.1st
[10:28] <predaeus> hunteke, yes I am around for a while, but I am not actively following the channel.
[10:29] <punsad> Walls7: editorname examples: vi, nano, gedit....
[10:29] <punsad> Walls7: ooops... grub directory may be in /boot
[10:29] <Walls7> punsad: yea it is ;)
[10:29] <hunteke> predaeus: well, looks like you know more than I do anyway, so I ought to stop leading this poor soul astray.  TBZ, I'm sorry to leave you but I've got to get up in the morning.
[10:30] <TBZ> hunteke: Thanks anyways bud, it's definately alright, have a good night man
[10:30] <predaeus> hunteke, it's fine, I'll lead the soul astray from here on :-D    good night
[10:30] <punsad> Walls7: sorry... kneejerk reaction since most config stuff is in /etc
[10:30] <hunteke> TBZ: don't forget that if you have no luck, to try #nvidia
[10:30] <hunteke> night
[10:30] <gleb> Hey is there anyone who knows how to us vbox?
[10:31] <[RRTS] jetzh> whoa
[10:31] <[RRTS] jetzh> 970
[10:31] <[RRTS] jetzh> !!!
[10:31] <Shaye> so? :P there are more than 1000 usually
[10:31] <tanath> [RRTS] jetzh, yeh, getting low. time to run some bots :P
[10:31] <[RRTS] jetzh> really
[10:31] <TBZ> predaeus: ok, I'm trying to find the "nvidia-xconfig" now so when I boot to shell I'll know where it's at, one quick thing, when I use "man *commandname*", how do I exit the man page?
[10:31] <chalcedony> tanath: KEWL.. now i really wish i had that soundcard.
[10:32] <punsad> TBZ: q
[10:32] <tanath> chalcedony, lol
[10:32] <chalcedony> looks really nice
[10:32] <[RRTS] jetzh> lolz
[10:32] <gleb> If someone here knows how to us printer in guest os, speak to me private please.
[10:32] <Walls7> hmm its now working.. doesn anyone know the command to open the menu file in GRUB?
[10:32] <[RRTS] jetzh> do you guys type slow or something?
[10:32] <chalcedony> [RRTS] jetzh: there's this stuff called thinking..
[10:32] <punsad> Walls7: it's just a text file in /boot/grub/.
[10:32] <[RRTS] jetzh> i know that
[10:32] <predaeus> TBZ, I think nvidia-xconfig is only available after you installed the nvidia drivers from the installer, it will be in your path so running "$ nvidia-xconfig" should be fine (sudo needed)
[10:32] <[RRTS] jetzh> i do that everyday Walls7
[10:33] <chalcedony> TBotNik_u: : q
[10:33] <punsad> Walls7
[10:33] <punsad> Walls7: oops
[10:34] <noddles_> punsad: for some reason it wont save what i change in it, only save as =/
[10:34] <gleb> Requesting help on using VirtualBox!
[10:34] <Shaye> noddles_ chmod it
[10:34] <punsad> noddles_: are you editing as root (or using sudo?)
[10:34] <noddles_> root
[10:34] <tanath> chalcedony, you have no sound at all?
[10:34] <TBZ> predaeus: ok, I'm going to go try again
[10:35] <punsad> you shouldn't mess with permissions on files like menu.1st
[10:35] <TBZ> predaeus: be back in a few
[10:35] <predaeus> TBZ, ok
[10:35] <tanath> chalcedony, soundcard doesn't really affect visual effects...
[10:35] <chalcedony> tanath: the kiten destroyed my headphone cord, and with it the soundcard
[10:35] <punsad> noddles_: what do you mean it saves as "=/"
[10:35] <tanath> chalcedony, o.O   i doubt a kitten destroyed your soundcard...
[10:36] <tanath> chalcedony, the soundcard is inside the computer
[10:36] <tanath> chalcedony, you mean the headphone jack?
[10:37] <punsad> noddles_: are you sure you are saving it correctly? what editor are you using?
[10:37] <noddles_> punsad: fixed it
[10:37] <gleb> Little funny that here is almost one thousand people and no one knows or can help me with my problem on using Innotek VirtualBox
[10:37] <punsad> noddles_: cool.  how did you fix it?
[10:37] <x_> hello everyone ... i got problem with shutdown , when i shutdown my PC , ubuntu unloading but can't turn off the pc ... what can i do ?!
[10:38] <_5-HT> x_ what happens if you issue 'sudo shutdown now -h' from a terminal?
[10:38] <tanath> gleb, many aren't here. some aren't people. many know little and are learning, others aren't paying attention or are otherwise busy/occupied
[10:38] <x_> _5-HT    i donno , never tried it
[10:38] <chalcedony> tanath: it shorted the card, apparently
[10:38] <chalcedony> either way, card no go
[10:39] <punsad> gleb: not only that, but that's not really an ubuntu or even linux centric question
[10:39] <_5-HT> x_ may be a halting problem, could be a lot of things. If that command works, it makes things simple
[10:39] <gleb> Oh yes, its all true.
[10:39] <punsad> gleb
[10:39] <gleb> I'm on #vbox channel also but there is silent.
[10:39] <gleb> In think that solution to my problem is on ubuntu side.
[10:39] <x_> _5-HT   ok ... i'll try it ... c u soon :-)
[10:40] <gleb> If I could explain my problem some people may understand how to fix it.
[10:41] <tanath> gleb, ask questions (being specific is good), and hope someone answers
[10:42] <Snakedude> hello, this is off topic, but im looking for a chatroom for discussion of programing logic, in particular structured diagrams, i need some help, can someone please refer me to a good server or room?
[10:42] <tanath> well, gnite chalcedony, m0u5e, et al
[10:42] <chalcedony> tanath: i sure appreciate all the help
[10:42] <m0u5e> tanath: good night, im about to head out too :D
[10:42] <chalcedony> sleep well
[10:43] <tanath> np
[10:43] <tanath> you too
[10:43] <m0u5e> hehe cya'll  :D
[10:43] <tanath> nite ppl
[10:43] <chalcedony> :))
[10:43] <chalcedony> night night m0u5e
[10:43] <chalcedony> sleep well too
[10:43] <m0u5e> haha you too D:
[10:43] <Snakedude> anyone?
[10:43] <thavorn> cannot play real media file
[10:43] <chalcedony> Snakedude: i'll be interested if you find someting
[10:43] <Billy> !wins | Billy
[10:43] <x_> _5-HT   that coomand u gave me , worked  :-)
[10:43] <gleb> I have xp only multifunctional printer(fax, scanner, printer, copy) I installed Innotek VirtualBox which way I'm able to run other Os on my Ubuntu. So I installed WinXp Pro and I have permitted to winXp to know of my printer. So When I start WinXp It sees that I have on it. And also usb-memorystick works propelly. BUT for some reason windows and printer can't communicate with each other.... :(
[10:44] <Snakedude> ill let you know if i find something, but theres no rooms for programing in general :(
[10:44] <fesits2k> Hi, can someone help me to solve a issue?
[10:44] <chalcedony> Snakedude: hmmm there should be
[10:44] <chalcedony> fesits2k: ask :)
[10:44] <punsad> fesits2k: what's the problem
[10:44] <_5-HT> x_, good. Best thing I can think of now is to make a shortcut with the command so you can shutdown properly. There are ways to edit the default shutdown command, but I can't remember what they are off the top of my head. Anyone else?
[10:44] <Snakedude> alot of these rooms are based on OS's topics
[10:45] <thavorn> gxine cannot play real media file
[10:45] <gleb> And believe me I have read all forum posts of this case.
[10:45] <x_> _5-HT    what was that command again ?!
[10:45] <chalcedony> Snakedude: or languages, which languages support what you do?
[10:45] <_5-HT> x_ sudo shutdown -h now
[10:45] <x_> thanks
[10:45] <Snakedude> well i havent got that far yet
[10:45] <Snakedude> i have to design a program for my assignment
[10:45] <_5-HT> x_ i'm just checking now in gconf to see if there's a way to use that instead of the default one
[10:46] <Snakedude> im only at the stage of preparing the review specifications
[10:46] <chalcedony> Snakedude: what's the goal?
[10:46] <Snakedude> ive got half a structured diagram
[10:46] <Billy> dose any know were I could look to make my ubuntu a wins server? or a Domain controler? I was told these 2 things were posible?
[10:46] <Snakedude> well for my assignment i have to: design a program that must: allow for the input of the number of students
[10:46] <Billy> mostly looking for wins?
[10:46] <Snakedude> for each student
[10:46] <fesits2k> I try to remotly connect to my ubuntu computer with nx client, first the screen goes black then i get an error like this: "last error message was: did not recive a reply, possible cause include: the remote application did not send a reply...."
[10:46] <Snakedude> allow entry of their scores
[10:47] <chovy> no, ssh does not work locally, how do I enable.
[10:47] <Snakedude> it really is quiet a bit to type out sorry
[10:47] <Snakedude> basically though, i have to design a program that will produce statistcs(the lowes and highest score, and average of all scores)
[10:47] <Snakedude> for student marks
[10:48] <Snakedude> and if >=80 display "pass"
[10:48] <Snakedude> else display "fail"
[10:48] <chalcedony> hmm
[10:48] <chalcedony> i have a friend who is looking for open source social networking programming
[10:48] <Snakedude> that would be very handy right now
[10:48] <Billy> !wins | billy
[10:48] <chalcedony> i found some with google
[10:49] <Billy> !window | billy
[10:49] <Snakedude> something like that, where students can discuss problem solving, would be great
[10:49] <punsad> chalcedony: what are some examples of that?
[10:49] <cjae> anyone know if there is a ktorrent channel
[10:49] <fesits2k> did anyone look at what i wrote? i did google but with no luck..
[10:50] <kersinc07> #ubuntu-es
[10:50] <chalcedony> punsad : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=social+network+mapping+software+open+source&btnG=Search
[10:50] <chalcedony> the wikipedia article explains well
[10:51] <cjae> kersinc07, that to me
[10:51] <punsad> chalcedony: so what are you asking about it for?
[10:51] <x_> which program is for 3D Desktop ?! i know just BERYL , have we another things ?!
[10:52] <chalcedony> Snakedude: are you looking to create social networks for students or diagram actions?
[10:52] <Snakedude> no just need a place to discuss problem solving really
[10:52] <TBZ> predaeus: Welp, still no luck, I'm getting a sh: /sbin/lrm-video : not found, and a FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia, nvidia failed to load the nvidia kernel module
[10:52] <punsad> Snakedude: what kind of problem solving?
[10:53] <Snakedude> i have to design a program, either with structured english or structured diagram, then desk check it(test plan included)
[10:53] <TBZ> predaeus: Also, I noticed a post on the forums http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33315/ a guy said that, But he didn't go on to explain how to fix...
[10:53] <Snakedude> but im having some difficulty
[10:53] <Snakedude> ive made up the review specifications so far
[10:54] <``EJ> \\'elcome ack ilovejesus
[10:54] <Snakedude> with all the input, output, and processing as well as my assumptions
[10:54] <punsad> "desk check it" - is that another way of saying talking about it with someone at their desk?
[10:54] <Snakedude> not in this case
[10:54] <molkko> how can one display content of master boot record. i would like to see e.g. know to which /boot/grub/menu.lst it points to (i have many partitions)
[10:54] <fesits2k> no one that even has a clue what my problem is?
[10:55] <Billy> !samba | billy
[10:55] <chalcedony> fesits2k: if you wait and keep asking, someone will show up and help, eventually
[10:55] <Snakedude> desk checking in this case is where i have to work through my algorithim with example data, to determine the correctness of the algorithim before i begin writing the program
[10:56] <Snakedude> @chalcedony, sorry your pm didnt come through, my spam filter stopped it :(
[10:56] <punsad> molkko: I while I don't know the answer to your question, you could force it to point to a particular one by issueing 'grub' command while booted into that partition
[10:56] <x_> i needf some #D Desktop programmes , what we have for it ?!
[10:56] <IceLink> hi there
[10:56] <IceLink> wasn't there a command to get the computer's usb-version?
[10:56] <fesits2k> I try to remotly connect to my ubuntu computer with NX client, first the screen goes black then i get an error like this: "last error message was: did not recive a reply, possible cause include: the remote application did not send a reply...." Any ideas?
[10:57] <TBZ> Hey, anyone in here really familiar with installing the nvidia drivers that could help me out?
[10:57] <punsad> IceLink: i'd think it would show in 'dmesg'
[10:57] <x_> TBZ   G-card do u have ?!
[10:57] <IceLink> punsad: too much text
[10:57] <jacob> anybody knows how to remove a program i just installed
[10:57] <punsad> IceLink: dmesg | grep USB
[10:58] <jacob> i installed itunes and quicktime using wine
[10:58] <jacob> it
[10:58] <punsad> jacob: apt-get remove
[10:58] <punsad> jacob: ooh... instsalling with wine... i don't know anything about that
[10:58] <IceLink> thank ya punsad
[10:58] <x_> TBZ    what's your card model ?!
[10:58] <jacob> ah ok
[10:58] <jacob> punsad ok
[10:59] <TBZ> x_: 8800GTS
[10:59] <x_> TBZ    do u have problem with screen resolution or what ?!
[10:59] <nasso> i have a problem with all users not being able to modify all files on one of my disks. can anyone help me with this?
[10:59] <TBZ> x_: no, I can't install...
[11:00] <punsad> nasso: need to have permissions setup on the mount point correctly, and mount it read-write as specified in /etc/fstab
[11:00] <openorigin> Hello everybody, there is no www-data user or group in my system even after installing LAMP
[11:01] <x_> TBZ   if u type "nvidia-settings" in terminal what u can c ?!
[11:02] <TBZ> well it loads, but it says I'm not using the X driver, (which I'm not right now, I had to switch to nv to get back into Ubuntu)
[11:03] <x_> TBZ  ... wait .. i gonna check it :-)
[11:03] <bruenig> openorigin, make one
[11:04] <TBZ> x_: when I do use the nvidia driver, on boot I get a failed X start, it says nvidia failed to load the nvidia kernel module
[11:04] <molkko> openorigin, for me www-data was always created automatically from dapper to feisty
[11:04] <TBZ> x_: I feel like all I need is a good working module...but i don't believe it's that easy, and if it is, I'll probably kill myself
[11:04] <x_> TBZ   oh , i didn't get that error when i installed it
[11:04] <openorigin> molkko, i am using feisty kubuntu, but there is no www-data
[11:04] <cjae> can someone help me with ktorrent
[11:04] <jacob> nobody knows how to remove applications installed by wine?
[11:04] <bruenig> openorigin, make it
[11:04] <molkko> do default ini files still refer to www-data or some other user?
[11:05] <bruenig> jablob, delete the files
[11:05] <bruenig> jacob, ^
[11:05] <openorigin> bruenig, ok, i'll be after doing it
[11:05] <bruenig> jacob, you might find an uninstall.exe, you should try that too
[11:05] <chalcedony> openorigin: you might also try #kubuntu
[11:05] <TBZ> x_:  me neither during install... it said it installed fine, that's at loading up ubuntu, it says that in X error report.
[11:05] <x_> TBZ   did u tried   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  in terminal ?!
[11:06] <jacob> bruenig, in what directory path will i be able to run the uninstall exe?
[11:06] <fesits2k> I try to remotly connect to my ubuntu computer with NX client, first the screen goes black then i get an error like this: "last error message was: did not recive a reply, possible cause include: the remote application did not send a reply...." Any ideas?
[11:06] <TBZ> x_: No, I haven't what does that do exactly?
[11:06] <bruenig> jacob, in the Program Files folder of your program, this is all very program specific
[11:06] <x_> TBZ  that changing your dept to 24
[11:07] <molkko> openorigin, i would check if server runs anyway, if it does your ok. if it does not i would check what user httpd.ini assumes. if its www-data, i would create www-data as suggested by others and restart
[11:07] <jacob> bruenig, what i'm trying to say is how will the command lline look like if i want to run uninstall.exe?
[11:07] <bruenig> wine uninstall.exe
[11:07] <Fitutus> anyone has time to help compile aprq2 quake 2 client , some needed libraries are missing and i don't know how to install correct one :(
[11:07] <x_> TBZ maybe u need install something like    sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:07] <nasso> i have a problem with one user not being able to remove data that the other user creates, on one disk. can anyone help me with that?
[11:07] <jacob> bruenig, i will need to run the uninstall.exe using wine again right?
[11:08] <bruenig> jacob, what
[11:08] <jacob> bruenig to run the uninstall.exe, i will need to run wine again
[11:08] <bruenig> jacob, yeah... you do understand how wine works right?
[11:08] <jacob> bruenig how will the command line look like (the directory path) to run the uninstall.exe
[11:08] <openorigin> molkko, created www-data group and it created, but when creating www-data, it is saying that "user already exixts"
[11:09] <predaeus> TBZ, that is a weird installer error. you ran it as sudo right? There is anotehr workaround here http://blog.ikasweb.de/2007/05/29/geforce-8800-gts-mit-ubuntu-704/   probably unfortunately for you it is in german. Still you might be able to use the commands. It basically says to install the regular nvidia packages and then swap in a file from the nvidia installer file that you can unpack. Not sure if it works.
[11:09] <bruenig> jacob, it depends on the program and the program may not even have one
[11:09] <bruenig> jacob, just hunt around in ~/.wine
[11:09] <cjae> hello
[11:09] <cjae> can someone help me with ktorrent
[11:09] <molkko> openorigin, then your original prognosis might be wrong. did you check if apache responds or not?
[11:09] <TBZ> predaeus: your back! :-D did you get my messages?
[11:10] <predaeus> TBZ, yes, sorry I was eating a snack.
[11:10] <openorigin> molkko, it is responding
[11:11] <TBZ> predaeus: all good, but yea, I'm still getting the failed to load the nvidia kernel module, is there a place where I can just download a "hacked" or "already good" module and just install it somehow?
[11:11] <molkko> openorigin, then you dont have problem, right?
[11:11] <jacob> bruenig, i have to go but thx for your help i think i know now
[11:11] <TBZ> predaeus: also check this, and see if it makes sense to you... I understand what he is saying sort of but I do no not know how to go about it... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33315/
[11:11] <hackerboy> does anyone know which applicication to use on ubuntu for burning image files to a cd
[11:12] <jacob> bruenig i see no uninstall file
[11:12] <molkko> hackerboy, open "file manager" and rightclick the iso file
[11:12] <predaeus> TBZ, probably, don't know where though.
[11:12] <Ilmulej> hello
[11:12] <x_> anyone using NERO LINUX 3 ?!
[11:13] <openorigin> molkko, i am able to access my files remotely, but for new files created from remote places are saved with user "nobody", and no permission for accessin user
[11:13] <molkko> hackerboy, in my case its easy like that. you can also use dvd-record/cd-record or something like that command line command
[11:13] <Ilmulej> im new to ubuntu. can i ask if there is a program where i can use my dvb card to watch satellite tv?
[11:13] <TBZ> predaeus: I also google: translated http://blog.ikasweb.de/2007/05/29/geforce-8800-gts-mit-ubuntu-704/ :-D
[11:13] <yml> hello, I am trying to configure my wireless card and I am facing some difficulty. it seems that ubuntu detect my wireless card. lspci give the following result: 02:07.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[11:14] <yml> the problem is when I try to do : sudo iwlist eth1 scanning it does not see any wireless network
[11:14] <molkko> openorigin, i am not sure if i got it right. if apache cant access new files you should chown/chmod the new files so that apache can access them
[11:14] <yml> does someone could let me which step I am missing?
[11:15] <Ilmulej> im new to ubuntu. can i ask if there is a program where i can use my dvb card to watch satellite tv?
[11:15] <kimmey2k3> !codecs
[11:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:15] <hackerboy> molkko: okay im going to try now
[11:15] <molkko> in my case molkko owns the files, group is www-data. so apache has only read writes. dunno if this is absolute best practise setup but it works
[11:15] <molkko> writes=rights
[11:15] <yml> !wireless
[11:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:16] <Ilmulej> !dvb
[11:16] <yml> that is good  :-)
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <openorigin> molkko, but everytime iam sudoing to change the permission, i dont want that sudoing
[11:16] <randoman> hey guys, does anyone know the command to display the kernerl?
[11:16] <tsurc>  Im trying to get feisty server + ubuntu-xen-server + drbd but I'm running into compiling trouble with drbd
[11:17] <hackerboy> molkko: its saying with i press download box pop-up saying either to "open with file roller" or "save to disk"
[11:17] <predaeus> TBZ, if you can not find another solution probably try that blog entry. but I guess there must be more people with 8800ers and somebody must have posted a fixed package in his/her repository. 3rd party repositories are not necessarily safe though.
[11:17] <TylerJGillies> i have a driver for my WLAN card but its not defaultly supported in the net installer, is there a way i can add the driver to the net installer?
[11:17] <openorigin> randoman, uname -r
[11:17] <randoman> k thanks
[11:17] <randoman> yes
[11:17] <randoman> im did it
[11:17] <randoman> <IP_ADDRESS>-kernel
[11:19] <TBZ> predaeus: ya...
[11:19] <j__5> is is normal/ok to have 3 kernels list when i boot up?i upgraded from version 5.10 to 7.4
[11:19] <Shaye> j__5 yep
[11:19] <TBZ> predaeus: I don't understand why the people with working version do not send them into the repository
[11:19] <j__5> ok thanks.
[11:20] <howlingmadhowie> j__5: if you don't want one you can uninstall or delete it
[11:20] <molkko> openorigin, you could setup default ownership somewhere to openorigin:www-data. dont remember where. in case you are not security paranoid put all php/html files as 744 so groups and their rights do not matter anymore
[11:20] <j__5> how do i do that?
[11:20] <Myrtti> j__5: synaptic for one
[11:20] <gordonjcp> molkko: uhm, 644 surely
[11:20] <howlingmadhowie> j__5: the linux kernels are probably listed under installed packages in synaptic
[11:20] <Bersa> hi all ) no questions :) just greetings)))
[11:21] <predaeus> TBZ, also read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641    not sure if this is the driver/kernel version you need
[11:21] <j__5> ok..thanks guys
[11:21] <predaeus> TBZ, I think the same fix, like in that blog is contained in that bug ticket.
[11:21] <openorigin> molkko, ok thanks i'll google about that
[11:21] <hackerboy> any body what can i open my iso files with?
[11:21] <mdious> j__5: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image might help
[11:21] <j__5> ok
[11:23] <molkko> gordonjcp, yes 644 better. i was trying to make point between setting 644 vs 640. 640 slightly better but requires that ownership/rights are setup correctly
[11:23] <gordonjcp> ye
[11:23] <TBZ> predaeus: ok, thanks alot, gonna keep trying... 5:30AM, I just can't quit till it works....
[11:23] <gordonjcp> molkko: tbh nothing should be writing stuff in your webroot anyway, except in very strange circumstances
[11:24] <dorto> anybody knows how to install monodevelop 0.14 on fiesty?
[11:24] <linux_> dorto , use synaptic
[11:25] <dorto> linux_, monodevelop 0.14 is not present in any repository of fiesty synaptic
[11:25] <dorto> it has monodevelop 0.12
[11:26] <linux_> dorto , download from go-mono
[11:26] <dorto> linux_, you mean compile from source?
[11:27] <predaeus> TBZ, better take some rest. I usually tend to get very angry and frustrated when tired and something won't work :-)
[11:27] <DRMacIver> Anyone got the skype linux client working on ubuntu (feisty specifically if that matters)? It's showing a distinct lack of letting me sign up for an account.
[11:28] <DRMacIver> (I was conjecturing some sort of connection problem, but it looks like it's able to connect)
[11:28] <anil> hello need help on installation of gimp
[11:28] <linux_> dorto , compiz --replace
[11:28] <Myrtti> DRMacIver: sure
[11:28] <linux_> ooooooooops
[11:28] <DRMacIver> Myrtti: Did it require any magic?
[11:28] <Myrtti> not that I remember
[11:28] <Myrtti> sounds were a problem for a while
[11:28] <fredl> hi guys, I'm running Linux on my 42" HDTV, but it appears the nvidia driver doesn't like it. 'nvidia' is the proprietary driver, correct?
[11:28] <DRMacIver> Myrtti: Did you have an account already, or were you signing up for a new one with that install?
[11:29] <linux_> dorto , see this you can download rpm and convert them to deb http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads
[11:29] <dorto> linux_, thx, this should be more convinient
[11:29] <anil> i have 2.2 13 installed and i want to install 2.2 17 using apt-get it says its already the new version
[11:29] <Myrtti> humm, yeah, it was a while back when I signed up
[11:29] <anil> how can i install the new version
[11:29] <fredl> or is 'nv' the proprietary driver?
[11:30] <Chousuke> nv is the free one
[11:30] <DRMacIver> (Because it's specifically the signup screen that isn't working for me. I mean, possibly the rest of it doesn't work either, but it's obviously hard for me to test this. :) )
[11:30] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: nvidia is correct
[11:30] <TylerJGillies> anyone know of an rt61 chipset compatible net installer?
[11:30] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, hmm, odd then, I now have a situation where the proprietarydriver doesn't work but the opensource one does...
[11:31] <DRMacIver> Anyway, thanks. Good to know this is just another "DRMacIver has bad computer karma" error. :)
[11:31] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: what's your graphics card?
[11:31] <fredl> however I don't get accellerated 3D n the opensource driver.
[11:31] <fredl> Geforc GO 7600
[11:31] <openorigin> molkko, sudo chown -R www-data:openorigin /var/www/htdocs
[11:31] <_5-HT> fredl, nv doesn't do accellerated 3d
[11:31] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: strange, i thought the 7xxx cards were well supported in the new nvidia driver
[11:31] <linux_> dorto , what is new in 0.14 ? ( i use 0.12 ) ?
[11:32] <_5-HT> only the proprietary nvidia driver does that (at the moment)
[11:32] <fredl> oh really? Hmmm.
[11:32] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: however, i'm not an expert. my most recent card is a 440 :)
[11:32] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, that's what I thought but it may have something to do with my display...
[11:32] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: how does it go wrong?
[11:32] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, FYI, this computer works fine with the nvidia driver on my LCD monitor, but not on my TV screen.
[11:33] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, it switches to 640x480 resolution.
[11:34] <dorto> linux_, some new refactorings, new gtk# designer features, visual studio 2005 project conversion etc. nothing major but I like to keep up with latest that is available in mono world
[11:34] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, actually it may be even less than 640x480 but it's a ridiculously low resolution on a screen that can do 1920x1080 natively
[11:34] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: aha. then your screen may be lying to your graphics card about its resolution. is it some sort of high definition ready trusted computing-infested screen?
[11:34] <fredl> well not even HD ready, it's a full HD screen :)
[11:35] <randoman> does anyone rememeber what packagse are needed for this
[11:35] <randoman> configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto xvmc fontsproto ) >
[11:35] <randoman> ?
[11:35] <dorto> linux_: I am waiting for improvement in vb.net support. complete list is here: http://www.monodevelop.com/Release_notes_for_MonoDevelop_0.14
[11:35] <linux_> dorto it will soon the stable
[11:36] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, for the nv driver I added a 'ModeLine ....' to the Monitor section but I'm not certain if that was required.
[11:36] <GNeRaL> helo
[11:36] <dorto> linux_ : k, it's there in gutsy tribe3, so I am happy. Now 0.15 is released too though.
[11:36] <fesits2k> i added a user
[11:36] <yml> I read the complete documentation related to wireless
[11:37] <fesits2k> how to set the password
[11:37] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: well, it's quite possible it won't work under linux. i'd try adding lines like "Option  "UseEDID" "False"" and "Option  "PanelSize" "1920x1280"" to the device section
[11:37] <GNeRaL> i usin 6.06 server edition
[11:37] <GNeRaL> "named: capset failed: Operation not permitted"
[11:37] <GNeRaL> how to fix ?
[11:37] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: see if that helps.
[11:37] <openorigin> molkko, thanks molkko it's working without sudoing command is sudo chown -R openorigin:www-data /var/www/htdocs
[11:37] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, lemm try that, brb
[11:37] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: but i wouldn't get my hopes up. a lot of this modern hardware is locked down very tightly
[11:38] <TBZ> how can I check my kernel version?
[11:38] <fesits2k> I added a user, "adduser" Now how do I set the password for the user?
[11:38] <yml> But I am still unable to get it up and working. does someone could spend 2 minutes on my problem?
[11:38] <linux_> someone know about php editor with FULL PHP AND HTML AUTOCMOPLETE , and SUPPROT XHTML STRICT AND FRAMESET ?
[11:38] <jherrera> fesits2k passwd
[11:38] <fesits2k> ty
[11:38] <TBZ> I need to match my linux-headers package to my kernel, how can I verify they are the same?
[11:39] <jherrera> TBZ uname -r
[11:39] <fesits2k> jherrera: that didnt help, sorry but can you be more spesific?
[11:39] <fredl> Hmm no such luck howlingmadhowie
[11:40] <jherrera> fesits2k: su <user>, then: passwd
[11:40] <TBZ> jherrera: ty
[11:40] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: yep. looks like you have a 42" paperweight there, as far as linux is concerned
[11:40] <randoman> anyone know what package this is in?
[11:40] <randoman> fontsproto
[11:40] <randoman> the package manager doesnt find it
[11:41] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: sorry to be so negative. i just get annoyed at technology which deliberately shuts linux out
[11:41] <jherrera> jherrera, if you lost the password, enter as root, do this: sudo su <user>, and then passwd
[11:41] <fredl> well I don't know if it deliberatly shuts linux out....
[11:41] <fredl> I can get it in 1920x1080 with the nv driver.
[11:42] <fredl> with the nvidia driver it says 'No valid modes for "1920x1080"; removing.'
[11:42] <fredl> which is kinda odd, doesn't the nvidia driver like a ModeLine ??
[11:42] <jherrera> fesits2k
[11:42] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: oh. no valid modes sounds like the monitor's lying to the card. that should be fixable
[11:43] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: you tried adding "useEDID" "false" ?
[11:43] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, yeah that's what I thought, I just lack the expertise to do so. Yup, I added the useEDID false
[11:44] <fredl> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseEDID" "false"
[11:44] <aleix> hi all, quick question... is there any fast and easy way to, via shell, to find where a new device is to be found under /dev to mount it?
[11:44] <fredl> howlingmadhowie, would you please come to #tt for a little while
[11:45] <howlingmadhowie> fredl: okay :)
[11:45] <sauvin> What's the new device?
[11:45] <fredl> coz I'm in 640x480 here and even with the modestly busy crowd here it's hard to follow :)
[11:45] <Axioo> !indonesia
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about indonesia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 not a new device (AFAIK), however you can mount it automatically if you set it in /etc/fstab
[11:45] <aleix> anything, usb, hard drive... whatever
[11:45] <Axioo> !bluetooth
[11:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:45] <dorto> aleix, dmesg | tail may show you some info where the newly connected devices are.
[11:45] <sauvin> usb hard drives should mount automagically.
[11:46] <aleix> yep, i've used dmesg... and it works.... but i was looking into something more like lshw
[11:46] <linux_> !php
[11:46] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:46] <Hylk0r> how can I downgrade gimp 2.3? Because gimp 2.3 sucks
[11:47] <Snakedude> hello, i am needing some help with my structured diagram for my program, i must design a program for my assignment, please forgive me - this is off topic. could someone please refer me to a room thats dedicated to problem solving?
[11:47] <sauvin> Dunno about "problem solving", but you probably wouldn't be yelled at, I'd think, for bringing this problem to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:48] <Snakedude> ok, thank you
[11:49] <dorto> Snakedude, you can try one of the language/technology specific rooms too, like #c++
[11:49] <Snakedude> its not really programing language i need help with
[11:49] <Snakedude> im not quiet that far in the PDLC as yet
[11:51] <linux_> there is program in synaptic like PARITITION MAGIC -- ?
[11:51] <aleix> gparted?
[11:53] <compwiz> linux_, gparted
[11:54] <ubuntu_1> is anyone alive here?
[11:54] <aleix> i hope i am ;)
[11:55] <linux_> compwiz , allow to resize | create | remove | marge partitions ?
[11:55] <aleix> linux_ yes it does
[11:55] <compwiz> linux_, if the partition supports it
[11:55] <compwiz> most of the time they do
[11:55] <tsurc> apt-get install heartbeat..... am now
[11:55] <Fitutus> what package i need to compile ? : http://pastebin.com/d24b89a83
[11:58] <linux_> GNOME PARTITION EDITOR is BETTER or WORST than what you gave me ?
[11:58] <aleix> linux_ sorry haven't tried that one
[11:58] <Juhaz> it's the same app. go easier on the caps lock.
[11:59] <linux_> lol
[12:01] <benanz1> I just discovered the the browse mode in image viewer.  awesome
[12:02] <SEpda> Big question on  an old machine which is the fastest VM ?, I don't care how stable it is or what ever just want speed VMs like Bochs qemu vmware virtualbox kvm xen (though I want to run some form of windows eventualy)  ETC   ???
[12:03] <benanz1> kvm or kqemu
[12:03] <benanz1> vmware isn't terribe;
[12:04] <faileas> SEpda: how old?
[12:04] <faileas> VMs arn't that processor hungry. you want as much ram as possible
[12:05] <strachino> ciao a tutti
[12:05] <strachino> vorrei chiedere un aiuto, qualcuno pu aiutarmi?
[12:10] <TyphoidHippo> Hello all - I had to completely remove alsa for a laptop with a neomagic sound unit.  I installed OSS 3.99 and actually got it to work by removing the blacklist-OSS file and some other stuff...problem now is that I can't get system sounds - and console output is throwing around a ton of ALSA lib errors.  I would just remove libasound2, but it wants to take almost every program out with it, according to synaptic.
[12:10] <egonw> question about /etc/hosts: can I alias some.host.com to localhost:PORT ?
[12:11] <aleix> you can edit host to point some.host.com to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:11] <TyphoidHippo> sorry that was so long, too...
[12:11] <aleix> the you could use iptables to redirect ports
[12:11] <Amaranth> TyphoidHippo: Yeah, you can't just remove alsa
[12:11] <osfameron> is there a way to get CTRL-ALT-DEL to *not* reboot my laptop when it's locked?
[12:11] <linux_> some know game called elma with bike and apples and flower ?
[12:12] <osfameron> I have that annoying muscle memory from windows, and it's really rather annoying that I bounce the laptop just cos I want to unlock it
[12:12] <egonw> aleix: OK, that sounds like a plan... thanx for that tip!
[12:12] <aleix> osfameron: the CTRL+ALT+DEL combo is defined in /etc/inittab... take a look...
[12:12] <TyphoidHippo> I guess that kinda just breaks sound for linux in general, Amaranth?  That's what it seems to have done really.
[12:12] <Amaranth> Yeah
[12:12] <osfameron> aleix: oh, ta
[12:12] <Amaranth> ALSA == sound on Linux
[12:13] <osfameron> aleix: ok - so I can just comment that line out to make it do nothing?
[12:13] <Amaranth> TyphoidHippo: If you use Linux From Scratch or gentoo or something you can make things not use alsa
[12:13] <mwe> aleix: I thought it was defined in /etc/event.d/control-alt-delete these days
[12:13] <randoman> hey guys I just updated to the new kernel, install the latest drivers for intel onboard video
[12:13] <osfameron> really, I wouldn't mind it doing that in other circumstances (e.g. when the bloody thing wasn't locked)
[12:13] <TyphoidHippo> Ok, I can do without system sounds, because XMMS, totem, and other apps that you can set up their sound properties manually all work great.  Thanks for the info, lol.
[12:13] <Amaranth> TyphoidHippo: But the problem with OSS is only one app can do audio at a time
[12:13] <randoman> adn when i boot into kde, all the fonts are huge like size 72
[12:13] <randoman> but when i come into gnome there fine
[12:13] <aleix> mwe maybe i did recall from days ago... sorry...
[12:13] <randoman> everthing is regular
[12:14] <randoman> anyone know what owuld cause that?
[12:14] <mwe> aleix: what you say used to be the case for several years
[12:14] <aleix> forgive me, it is true, there is no inittab in ubuntu... too many distros :-D
[12:14] <osfameron> ah
[12:14] <TyphoidHippo> Yea, I've noticed that too.   But alsa will not work at all with this neomagic card - I tried it to death....not with a modern kernel, anyway, from what I've read.  I'll try gentoo, though.  thanks for that info, as well.  Any more tips like that?
[12:15] <osfameron> aleix: however there is handily a line in inittab even so :-)
[12:15] <osfameron> just to fool you...
[12:15] <DRMacIver> Sigh. Ok, I've no idea how to make skype work. So, can anyone recommend a voice chat client for linux that isn't skype?
[12:15] <DRMacIver> Something jabber based (especially if I could use it with google talk) would be ideal.
[12:16] <IceLink> can anybody tell me where the select-input-drop-down has gone in audacity?
[12:16] <osfameron> is there a disadvantage to banning that combo? it's defined as the "emergency keypress"
[12:16] <osfameron> will I then by preventng a handy getout option?
[12:16] <DRMacIver> Landell was the only thing I could find that looked plausible, but its installation procedure is basically "Download the source from these 30 locations and build it all" :)
[12:17] <antonio_> salve a tutti
[12:18] <elDoudou> Hello there. Have been digging on the web on how to fix my Feisty Fawn installation problem on my MacBook Pro, bbut could not find any clear explanation. When I run the install CD, I get a "Can't access to tty" and the install procedure stops. I guess that there must be some kind of magic startup option that should work my problem around. Anyone has a hint, please? Or should I ask the...
[12:18] <elDoudou> ...question on another forum, please? Thanx for your support and attention
[12:19] <CroX> How do I add RAR support in File Roller? Or is there a better archive manager out there?
[12:20] <Juhaz> just install unrar and it should pick it up
[12:20] <elDoudou> I also read that the alternate installation CD may fix my problem, but this does not seem to be very reliable, any idea, please?
[12:20] <kauer> elDoudou: someone with more knowledge of MACs may be able to help you more specifically, but certainly one thing you could try would be the alternative CD (if there is one for Mac). It seems to solve lots of problems people have with making it through the install process. I haven't heard that it is any less reliable than the standard CD.
[12:20] <CroX> Juhaz: Thanks
[12:22] <elDoudou> kauer: Thanx for the hint :)
[12:22] <linux_> someone have tried QTparted ?
[12:22] <kauer> Is there a way in GAIM (or in ANY IRC client)  to effectively filter  the conversation in a forum, so that you see only certain people?
[12:22] <SEpda> faileas: well I want to run it on psps and pocet pcs but my pc is a 2.38 ghz with 512 ram
[12:23] <SEpda> I have a fast machine but thats not what im using
[12:25] <Hadron> feisty. What do I need to install to be open a DVD from the context menu as opposed to manually starting kaffeine and selecting "play dvd"?
[12:25] <A[D] minS> hello , how i can take image from CD as ISO ?
[12:26] <CroX> A port I'm trying to listen to seems to be occupied. How can I see what occupies it and, consequently, make it stop?
[12:26] <SEpda> benanz1: is kqemu just qemu with KDE GUI?
[12:26] <hwk> hello ,how can i use chinese language
[12:27] <elDoudou> Guys from the ##mac forum tell me that there are lots of Mac users in here. I guess that someone has already been attempting (and hopefully succeeded in) installing Ubuntu Feisty Fawn on a MacBook Pro, right? Any hint, please?
[12:27] <Happu> elDoudou: check www.ubuntuforums.com there were instructions for installation
[12:28] <elDoudou> Happu: I check once again, thanx
[12:28] <Cufaf> birisi bana yardm edebilirmi :S
[12:28] <IceLink> can anybody tell me why i suddenly cannot record anything with audio-recorder and audacity?
[12:29] <kauer> Hadron: I'mnot sure if this is what you want, but try System->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media->Multimedia. Then click "Play video DVD discs when inserted" and specify the command you want to use. Then DVDs will play when inserted.
[12:29] <osfameron> IceLink: possibly because Linux sound is a steaming pile of manure?
[12:29] <Happu> elDoudou: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[12:29] <osfameron> IceLink: alternatively, a software install may have helpfully turned your microphone volume to zero (this happened to me once.  Check your mixer settings)
[12:30] <IceLink> osfameron: nope, i record and play doesn't d oanything, the "length-"bar isn't movable but the lenght of the sound is displayed
[12:31] <faileas> SEpda: your desktop should be no problem for VMware
[12:31] <SEpda> yeah
[12:31] <faileas> you'l generally want enough ram to run your base OS + enough FREE ram for the VM
[12:31] <IceLink> osfameron: i just noticed, when saved as a file it is playable
[12:31] <SEpda> but i wan't to run it on small embeded type devices
[12:31] <SEpda> thats the main thing
[12:32] <faileas> qemu has arm builds
[12:32] <faileas> IIRC
[12:32] <Cufaf> yaa beni anlayan biri varm :S
[12:32] <faileas> ram though... big big issue.
[12:32] <IceLink> suddenly it works even in the prog >.<
[12:32] <Jjohn> Icelink, might be one of your other volume setting got changes look for little red cross on each or any
[12:32] <IceLink> already did
[12:32] <osfameron> IceLink: how odd
[12:32] <SEpda> faileas and still it wolud  like maxum speed for my home pc
[12:33] <faileas> hmm
[12:33] <SEpda> faileas: what arch is arm?
[12:33] <IceLink> not it doesn't work any longer
[12:33] <SEpda> i want mips
[12:33] <faileas> arm is arm ;)
[12:33] <SEpda> k
[12:33] <SEpda> hehe
[12:33] <wippeout> hello
[12:33] <faileas> they may have one too, go check ;p
[12:33] <wippeout> is it possible to deactivate the usb automount ?
[12:34] <Jjohn> Icelink, did your mike die?
[12:34] <IceLink> die?
[12:34] <SEpda> faileas: do you know why people who kind run linux there toster or very small device often use bochs?
[12:34] <Jjohn> Icelink, did your mike quit working
[12:35] <SEpda> its much slower that qemu ain't it?
[12:35] <faileas> SEpda: bochs is 'simple' and the smallest emu
[12:35] <SEpda> see
[12:35] <IceLink> Jjohn: don't think so.. well, if i record AND save it, then it's playable but not before
[12:35] <sauvin> qemu uses bochs, no?
[12:35] <SEpda> faileas: and easy to port?
[12:36] <Jjohn> Icelink, Too hard for me sorry
[12:36] <SEpda> has lots of arch's
[12:36] <IceLink> ko
[12:36] <IceLink> *ok
[12:36] <kauer> wippeout: From https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbFlashDrives : If your usb device doesn't appear on your desktop, you should check that the automount action is enabled in the preferences: Navigate to "System" > "Preferences" > "Removable Drives and Media" Verify that all "Mount removable drives when..." are checked.
[12:37] <kauer> wippeout: It seems to me the reverse would work - *uncheck* the option....
[12:38] <SEpda> sauvin: no
[12:38] <_pango_> Hello
[12:38] <jauk> heloo
[12:38] <Hadron> kauer: thanks for the DVD suggestion. It doesn't work though. I am surprised and disappointed. They should have this stuff working by now :(
[12:38] <djkorn_> wuzup!?
[12:39] <djkorn_> having troubles with screenlets... the repository server is down.. :(
[12:39] <djkorn_> need help.. thanks..
[12:41] <dissection> I have a question.. At the moment I have my FTP running on this box on port X, if I have another PC and want to run another FTP, is it possible to run it also on port X? Won't the router try to forward to both PCs then? Is there any problem if I do that?
[12:41] <kauer> Hadron: What doesn't work exactly? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you. What do you want to be able to do?
[12:43] <Daann> Hi
[12:43] <SlimG> What's the equivalent command for the keypress Ctrl+Alt+Del (restart X server) ?
[12:43] <_pango_> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm {stop | start | restart}
[12:44] <bjames> hi all
[12:44] <Daann> I have a problem with my Broadcom wireless device. It does not recognize the device!
[12:44] <_pango_> hi
[12:44] <Hadron> kauer: firstly the dvd doesnt play when inserted.  What I want is to right click the dvd icon and select play.
[12:44] <kauer> dissection: If the two boxes are accessed via NAT (which your question seems to suggest) then, no, you can't do what you want. The router identifies the protocol via the port, and cannot know which server the outside client wants to connect to... but by running FTP on a different port on one of the two machines, it would work.
[12:44] <bjames> I'm having some problems with kdevelop - I've created a project and specified the following under "Linker flags (LDFLAGS)": -L/usr/local/lib, but it doesn't seem to link against the libraries in the directory
[12:44] <bjames>
[12:44] <bjames> do I need to specify the actual library to use somewhere?
[12:44] <bjames> the library name is libportaudio.a
[12:44] <kauer> Hadron: te me get a DVD and play ... :-)
[12:45] <SlimG> _pango_: Isn't there a universal way of doing this? that isn't restricted to the desktop environment?
[12:45] <hackerboy> somebody help me ive just installed a wubi on my laptop to get a linux on it but everytime i click ubuntu to go to it instead of windows xp the screen stays black. what do i do?
[12:45] <Hadron> kauer: Not sure I understood that. Can you right click and see a play option?
[12:45] <Jjohn> Daann, The broadcom is a known problem and well documented in ubuntu forums if you want some work arounds
[12:46] <lueho> q, where do i put in acpi=force so linux shuts off the coputer when i do poweroff?
[12:46] <linux_> hackerboy , dont use wubi . ..
[12:46] <bjames> does anyone here use kdevelop?
[12:46] <Daann> Thanks Jjohn, but it worked before perfectly. There is something else wrong. Ubuntu says there is not card in my laptop and now it doesnt work with windows either
[12:46] <dissection> kauer: I don't know if I'm using NAT. How do I check?
[12:47] <kriser223> hi i am a new user of unbuntu installed on a laptop and cannot get my usb to work at all can anyone help please
[12:47] <Hadron> Can *anyone* here right click a DVD icon and select "play" and if so what is the default player?
[12:47] <moyer> kriser223 : usb for what?
[12:47] <lueho> where do i put in acpi=force so linux shuts off the computer when i do poweroff?
[12:47] <kriser223> my usb ports on the laptop they just do not work
[12:48] <Jjohn> Daann, If it it down in windows then you may need a new card I am using broadcom and it works fine in windows and patchy in ubuntu dapper
 if you use gnome desktop environment, than gdm, if KDE, then kdm.
[12:49] <linux_> someone know in kopete how i can cipy user away message ?
[12:49] <hackerboy> linux: no i have the real deal on my main computer. i just wont windows xp and wubi on my laptop i dont wont to get of any files like i did when installed it on my main computer.
[12:49] <kauer> Hadron: Just checked, no you can't! I don't see it as a major problem though - set up a launcher to run your favourite movie player, then one click will do the job...
[12:49] <moyer> kriser223 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-151945.html
[12:50] <kriser223> it doesn't matter what i plug into them pendrive or card readers or digital camera nothing regiters
[12:50] <SlimG> _pango_: so there's no way to restart X directly?
[12:50] <Daann> Jjohn, is there a way to check if my card is actually broken? The "orange" light of the wireless is on it only doesnt turn blue anymore even when its activated.
[12:50] <bullgard4> My Ubuntu 7.04 computer includes the active file kinit although I neither installed the DEB program package bootcd-mkinitramfs. How came kinit on my computer? By the way, I'm missing man kinit.
[12:50] <lueho> hello can someone see me or what?
[12:50] <bullgard4> lueho: yes.
[12:50] <lueho> where do i put in acpi=force so my computer shutsoff when i do poweroff?
[12:50] <kauer> dissection: Well, do your computers have globally routable addresses, or private addresses?
[12:50] <jajadavid> hello. can someone tell me about a good sound pack like the mac os x one?
[12:51] <axel_s> hi! big problem: i'm installing ubuntu on my laptop but the resolution of the install system is only 800x600 so I cannot see all of the install dialog window :(
[12:51] <axel_s> and of course I cant see all of the buttons :(
[12:52] <moyer> axel_s : use xrandr
[12:52] <Jjohn> Daann, Type <dmseg> in the terminal and see if your card is listed. Alt reboot and see if it gets detected under one of your o/s
[12:52] <dissection> kauer: Well right now I have only one computer. But as far as I know, when I add another computer, it will also have the same external IP.

[12:52] <axel_s> moyer, what does it do?
[12:52] <dissection> kauer: NAT is something that needs to be supported by the ISP as well so I can enable it here, right?
[12:52] <moyer> just type xrandr in terminal
[12:52] <bullgard4> axel_s: The Ubuntu installer program will allow you to tell him the actual resolution of your machine.
[12:52] <moyer> it allows you to set screen reso. from command
[12:52] <jajadavid> noone knows how to answer me
[12:52] <jajadavid> ?
[12:53] <hackerboy> hey i cant burn my image file to my blank dvd. anyone know of a better program to use on linux for thies
[12:53] <axel_s> bullgard4, tell who?
[12:53] <moyer> jajadavid : i missed the ?
[12:53] <kauer> dissection, answer the question :-) Does your computer have a globally routable address or not? If not, then your router is doing NAT or NAPTR or both, and you can only forward a protocol to one server. This is almost certainly what you do have, by the way.
[12:53] <jajadavid> can someone tell me about a good sound pack like the mac os x one?
[12:53] <moyer> hackerboy :what program do you use?
[12:54] <Jjohn> hackerboy, I just use gnomebaker
[12:54] <moyer> jajadavid :i know nothing about soundpacks on mac's, what are you looking to accomplish?
[12:54] <dissection> kauer: I don't know if it has globally routable address
[12:54] <kauer> dissection: Run ifconfig. Tell me the addresses on your interfaces.
[12:54] <jajadavid> moyer: make my ubuntu look like os x. i just need various sounds
[12:54] <hackerboy> moyer: no program every time i downloading something its opened as a archive manager
[12:54] <kriser223> is there a way to connect maulally to usb ports
[12:54] <exhuma> Hi, after upgrading to 7.04, I am having big trouble with locales. No man-pages work, perl keeps complaining big-time, and what's even worse, my postgresql-server won't start anymore.
[12:55] <jajadavid> hackerboy: try installing k3b
[12:55] <moyer> oh i see jaja
[12:55] <hackerboy> Jjohn: i dont have gnomebaker on my linux how do i install it
[12:55] <bullgard4> axel_s: During the course of installation. I do not remember exactly the point in the installing sequence because it is a long time since I installed ubuntu from scratch.
[12:55] <exhuma> locale-gen and dpkg-reconfigure locales both did also not help. neither did google ;)
[12:55] <Frederick> folks when I try to updatze my packages I have the following error:http://rafb.net/p/ufvqCi64.html
[12:55] <dissection> kauer: <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:56] <hackerboy> jajadavid: whats k3b? is that a program to burn iso image files to dvd blanks
[12:56] <Daann> Jjohn, will i recognize the card only by its name? Because then it is not listed.
[12:56] <kauer> dissection: That is a private address, and your router is doing NAT. You will be unable to forward FTP to more than one server unless you run one of the servers on a different port.
[12:56] <moyer> jajadavid : http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=25&PHPSESSID=5b90eefdedc20166bac18ae507a7f2ac
[12:56] <axel_s> bullgard4, I'll try it with xrandr now since I can't proceed right now with partioning without seeing the buttons of the dialog ;)
[12:56] <Jjohn> hackerboy, apt-get install gnomebaker or go to the package manager and click gnonebaker
[12:56] <dissection> kauer: Ah okay. So apart from NAT, what is my other alternative?
[12:56] <jajadavid> moyer thanks
[12:56] <bullgard4> axel_s: xrandr is a good idea.
[12:57] <moyer> jajadavid : you got it
[12:57] <hackerboy> Jjohn: thanx alot preciatate it.
[12:57] <kauer> dissection: As noted, run one server on a different port.
[12:57] <Jjohn> Daann, yes should be a refercence to broadcom and a number if it is not there I think you are done
[12:57] <dissection> kauer: Yeah I will do that. But what other way does one connect with a router, other than NAT?
[12:57] <Jjohn> hackerboy, some one else suggests K3B
[12:57] <Daann> Jjohn, thanks would a bios upgrade maybe solve this problem (HP suggested that)
[12:58] <Frederick> any ideas fpr me?
[12:58] <hackerboy> Jjohn: ya is that a good one too?
[12:58] <Jjohn> Daann, sorry too hard for me to answer
[12:58] <moyer> Frederick :whats the issue?
[12:58] <wippeout> hello
[12:58] <Frederick> folks when I try to updatze my packages I have the following error:http://rafb.net/p/ufvqCi64.html
[12:58] <exhuma> hackerboy: k3b is really easy to use.
[12:58] <Jjohn> hackerboy, some like I do not
[12:59] <wippeout> i'm looking for someone who have a zen vision M working with feisty
[12:59] <exhuma> hackerboy: it probably does all you need to do.
[12:59] <moyer> hackerboy :gnomebaker is better in my opinion
[12:59] <djkorn_> k3b for gnome?
[12:59] <kauer> dissection: Most small sites (homes, many small businesses) are behind NAT, because then the ISP only has to given them one address, and not even a static one. The customer-side routers do NAT to enable many machines at the customers site to use the internet; the downside is that those machines are not visible to the internet except via port forwarding tricks, which have their limitations as you have just found out.
[12:59] <Daann> Can anyone help me with a Broadcom wireless device?
[12:59] <djkorn_> i see...
[12:59] <exhuma> djkorn_: ah.... gnome... well in that case ;)
[12:59] <djkorn_> exhuma, thanks..
[12:59] <moyer> gnome is better in my opinion so, ya
[12:59] <hackerboy> Jjohn: well im a tryed what u said first before trying k3b.
[12:59] <axel_s> moyer, xrandr won't let me the notebook resolution as it's not "an available mode"
[12:59] <Jjohn> djkorn, yes kde apps wotk in gnome ok
[01:00] <axel_s> moyer, available are only 640x480 and 800x600
[01:00] <moyer> axel_s :show me the command you used
[01:00] <Daann> Hp pavilion wireless card suddely doesn't work anymore.
[01:00] <ion> audio/video problem, with this one xvid video I have the audio is 235 ms off what can I use to sync the audio/video
[01:00] <ion> in ubuntu
[01:00] <kauer> dissection: Larger sites - or those with ISPs willing and ablke to give them or sell them a range of real, globally routable addresses - have machines that each have real addresess, they are accessible from anywhere on the internet, directly. The downside is that such machines need a much higher lev
[01:00] <axel_s> moyer, "xrandr -s 1440x900"
[01:00] <Jjohn> Hackerboy, ok if you do not like get another there are plenty
[01:00] <djkorn_> well.. my problem was.. when burning a cd.. im having some errrors...
[01:00] <kauer> dissection: higher level of protection, because they are directly accessible.
[01:00] <dissection> kauer: Oh, right. My ISP has given me only 1 dynamic IP.
[01:00] <ion> ive googled everywhere and cant find a solution for the audio/video sync
[01:00] <djkorn_> tho process cant complete...
[01:00] <exhuma> hackerboy: you might want to google for "linuxappfinder". You should find a page that has plenty of applications listed. Also several cd-burning tools. Try them and pick the one you like ;)
[01:00] <hackerboy> Jjohn: o right i will
[01:00] <djkorn_> maybe it will stop @ 20%
[01:00] <moyer> axel_s :you needa set the refresh rate
[01:01] <djkorn_> then fcked up my blank cd
[01:01] <kriser223> anyone got any ideas to sort my prob out
[01:01] <Daann> Anyone can help me with a problem with wireless device of hp?
[01:01] <dissection> kauer: Okay, so since machines behind NAT are not accessible directly without port forwarding, they are more secure.
[01:01] <hackerboy> exhuma: yeah but everytime i download something on my linux program it opens as an archive manager instead of actually installing the program. what do i do?
[01:01] <kauer> dissection: If it is important to you, your ISP will probably give (or more probably sell) you a small IP range of globally routable addresses.
[01:02] <axel_s> Even with "xrandr -s 1440x900 -r 60" it says "Size 1440x900 not found in available modes"
[01:02] <kauer> dissection: Not much more secure. That's a bit of a fallacy actually.
[01:02] <Frederick> folks when I try to updatze my packages I have the following error:http://rafb.net/p/ufvqCi64.html
[01:02] <kauer> dissection: Another alternative is to use IPv6 and tunnel out, but that's all getting pretty technical.
[01:02] <moyer> axel_s :what is it set at now?
[01:02] <Daann> Can anyone help me with a problem with wireless device of hp?
[01:02] <moyer> Dann: give us more information.. what happend..
[01:03] <axel_s> moyer, 800x600 :(
[01:03] <moyer> eek axel_s
[01:03] <moyer> what video card are you using?
[01:03] <axel_s> moyer, one second
[01:03] <exhuma> hackerboy: ubuntu has a package manager I think it's called "adept". Run that and search for the application. If it's in there you can easily install it there.
[01:03] <Jjohn> moyer, hs broadcom card hs crashed and it will not work under linux or windows
[01:04] <kauer> axel_s: You might check the BIOS settings. Maybe something there you can tweak...
[01:04] <axel_s> kauer, ok I'll have to check
[01:04] <axel_s> moyer, its a Geforce Go 7600
[01:04] <axel_s> moyer, It's a laptop
[01:04] <Daann> OK thanks, My wireless card was working fine with ubuntu, suddenly after dual=booting and hibernating my card stopt working. After a few restarts it worked again but every time i hibernate or dualboot i does not get recognized, and after a fresh install of ubuntu it does not get recognized at all.
[01:04] <exhuma> hackerboy: if it's not, then it get's a bit more complicated, and if you're new to linux you should stick to those that are available in the package manager until you feel comfortable meddling with the system
[01:05] <ttmrichter> I have a slight problem with my recently-upgraded Ubuntu.  I moved from Edgy to Feisty today and my video is flaking out.  It blanks out periodically or just goes nuts.  If I switch to a virtual console and back, however, the video is restored from insanity.  This is a system that worked perfectly without a hitch for months at a time under Edgy.
[01:05] <ttmrichter> Any clues for solving this?
[01:05] <exhuma> hackerboy: if they are not in there you might get lucky by activating the "universe" and "multiverse" repositories. Google will surely tell you how to enable those.
[01:05] <Walls7> Is there a 'correct' way to delete ubuntu, or do i just delete the partion its on?
[01:06] <exhuma> Still, my locales are broken, and both dpk-reconfigure nor locale-gen helped me out. Any pointers? *asks again...*
[01:06] <robineo> EPL starts today
[01:06] <moyer> axel_s :what reso. does it run in windows?
[01:06] <axel_s> 1440x900
[01:06] <exhuma> Walls7: do you have another system on you PC (Windows?)
[01:06] <fisher> Walls7: why are you gonna delete it?
[01:06] <Jjohn> !gusty
[01:06] <ubotu> It is spelt guTSy :)
[01:06] <Walls7> exhuma: yea
[01:06] <khelll> how to change a theme in ubuntu
[01:07] <khelll> theme like windows
[01:07] <Jjohn> !gutsy
[01:07] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:07] <exhuma> Walls7: If you just delete the partition you will get trouble booting as the boot-manager will lose it's configuration (which is on that partition).
[01:07] <kauer> robineo; What is EPL? Ecole Polytechnique Lausanne?
[01:07] <Walls7> exhuma: so what should i do?
[01:08] <exhuma> Walls7: you might want to check if "grub" supports something to uninstall/remove it from the "MBR". I've never done that though
[01:08] <exhuma> Walls7: alternatively...
[01:08] <kriser223> all 4 of my usb worked while i had windows installed i now just run ubuntu as i can't stand microsoft and they don't seem to be powered altough they are switched on in the bios and appearing in the hardware config
[01:08] <hackerboy> exhuma: okay im bout to try now. please stay online to tell u if it worked
[01:08] <robineo> epl = english premier league
[01:08] <robineo> wahahaha
[01:09] <exhuma> Walls7: you could just delete the partition, boot the pc from a boot-disk and re-format the MBR with a windows tool. I *think* "fdisk /mbr" does the job
[01:09] <Daann> moyer, can you help me with this problem?
[01:09] <exhuma> Walls7: you might want to google about this though. Before screwing up ;)
[01:09] <khelll> how to change a theme in ubuntu, themes like windows
[01:10] <Walls7> exhuma: i tried to do that using windows recovery but recovery didnt work
[01:10] <moyer> Daann :how are you connected right now?
[01:10] <kauer> kriser223: run lsusb - do you see the hub?
[01:10] <swamych> hi
[01:10] <Jjohn> khe111, preferences/themes
[01:11] <exhuma> Walls7: windwows recovery might not be a good idea.
[01:11] <bullgard4> My Ubuntu 7.04 computer includes the active file kinit although I neither installed the DEB program package bootcd-mkinitramfs. How came kinit on my computer? By the way, I'm missing man kinit.
[01:11] <exhuma> Walls7: you should get into the command-prompt of windows and execute the fdisk command
[01:11] <khelll> and where to download themes?
[01:11] <Walls7> what was the command again?
[01:11] <kriser223> yes it shows 4 devices
[01:12] <moyer> axel_s : which distr, u using?
[01:12] <kauer> kriser223: Then the computer and Linux know about the ports. What do you have connected?
[01:12] <Daann> moyer, now im connected with an usb device of D-Link on windows
[01:12] <Walls7> exhuma: what was the fdisk command? fdisk/mdr?
[01:12] <kriser223> pendrive
[01:12] <axel_s> moyer, 7.04
[01:13] <axel_s> moyer, I'm trying again now... Unfortunately I can't load the Nvidia module on an install system
[01:13] <Walls7> exhuma: so while ubuntu is still installed, run fdisk/mdr in the windows cmd?
[01:14] <hackerboy> does anyone know how VMware converter suppose to work?
[01:14] <kriser223> just the pendrive but it is not mounting
[01:14] <moyer> axel_s :the nvidia driver needs to be loaded or you will not be able to proceed
[01:14] <kauer> kriser223: Is that like a USB memory stick? Sorry, don't know what a "pen drive" is. Anyway, plug it in and run lsusb again; you should see the device show up in the list. For example, I have a mouse plugged in now, and I see one entry like this "Bus 002 Device 011: ID 046d:c01a Logitech, Inc. ", the other entries, ports with no devices, look more like this: "Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:14] <kauer> "
[01:15] <axel_s> moyer, but how can I load it?
[01:15] <kriser223> lsusb
[01:15] <moyer> Daann :on the same machine with the messed card?
[01:15] <Walls7> after i run fdisk/mdr do i then delete the ubuntu partion useing the live cd??
[01:15] <moyer> axel_s : ohhh dear
[01:15] <Daann> moyer, yes its the same machine
[01:15] <axel_s> moyer, yes ;)
[01:15] <exhuma> Walls7: "mbr"... but yes. You should first see if 1) Windows resides on you "first" partitin, and 2) "fdisk /mbr" in fact *does* restore the original mbr.
[01:15] <kauer> kriser223: er, you need to do it in a terminal window :-)
[01:16] <exhuma> prtition*
[01:16] <exhuma> partition* args....
[01:16] <kriser223> yeah i made a mistake just ran it again and all 4 are registering nothing
[01:17] <Walls7> exhuma, than delete the ubuntu partion with the live cd?
[01:18] <kauer> kriser223: In a terminal window, run "tail -f /var/log/messages". Then unplug and replug the pen drive. Do you see any log activity at all?
[01:18] <exhuma> Walls7: once you restored the MBR you can just reboot the machine and it will skip the boot-loader and run windows.
[01:18] <exhuma> Walls7: Then you can delete the partition from within windows
[01:18] <Walls7> exhuma: thanks ill try that
[01:19] <axel_s> moyer, booting with "Start/Install Ubuntu system" does not start X, screens remains black
[01:19] <moyer> axel_s : oh really
[01:19] <axel_s> moyer, booting with "Start/Install Ubuntu system in Safe Graphics mode" causes small resolution
[01:20] <moyer> axel_s :very well then, that is important information
[01:20] <hackerboy> exhuma: i found adept thank u very much installing it now
[01:20] <moyer> here is reading on loading nvidia drivers
[01:20] <moyer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=446578
[01:21] <kriser223> i just get directroy not found
[01:22] <moyer> you need to install the driver correctly to correct this issue you have axel_s
[01:22] <gooro> hi
[01:22] <axel_s> moyer, but how can I? It's just an install system from the CD? How should I install the Nvidia driver?
[01:22] <kauer> kriser223: What, from the tail command?!? The command is "tail      -f       /var/log/messages".
[01:23] <moyer> hmm
[01:23] <moyer> try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in term
[01:23] <moyer> see wha it does
[01:23] <gooro> anyone using an Hauppauge on ubuntu? please
[01:23] <moyer> i suggest you install axel_s :)
[01:24] <axel_s> moyer, but I can't as I cannot see the dialog boxes of the installation
[01:24] <moyer> live im not to familiar with
[01:24] <kriser223> yes it is logging the drive
[01:24] <axel_s> moyer, can't see the button
[01:24] <moyer> axel_s :give me the cd information
[01:24] <gooro> HEY GUYS??
[01:24] <kauer> kriser223: Excellent. Please paste that sectionof the log to the pastebin.
[01:25] <Frederick> folks my apt-get is broken it cannot download packages
[01:25] <moyer> whered you get the cd from?
[01:25] <hackerboy> does anyone how to install adept or run it threw root. Guessing that means installing it in terminal. If anyone knows what im talking about please help me out.
[01:25] <bizkut> Malaysian, spend your time at our own forum --> http://www.ubuntu.com.my/forum
[01:25] <axel_s> moyer, downloaded it, standard 7.04 desktop install image
[01:25] <moyer> Frederick :whats the error
[01:25] <kriser223> you mean copy it
[01:25] <chazco> hi... probably a daft question... how can i have Gaim automatically start once Gnome is logged in to?
[01:25] <Frederick> http://rafb.net/p/25VLMk57.html
[01:26] <kauer> goorro: No I am not using a Hauupage. Would you like all of us to respond like that? There are 1006 of us at present. If anyone has a Hauppage and wants to answer, rest assured that he or she will answer.
[01:26] <moyer> ubuntu? kbuntu? media, xbuntu?
[01:26] <kauer> !pastebin |kriser223
[01:26] <ubotu> kriser223: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <chazco> I'm guessing its a script i need to modify somewhere
[01:27] <khelll> i downloaded this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=41621  as a tar file but i dont know how to install it?
[01:27] <kauer> kriser223: Mark the log section with your mouse, then paste it into the window at that URL, then tell us the URL you get back.
[01:27] <moyer> chazco : add it in sessions manager
[01:27] <Frogzoo> chazco: sys -> prefs -> session
[01:27] <chazco> ah, thanks... completly missed that
[01:28] <kriser223> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33321/
[01:28] <chazco> Thanks again (will test)
[01:28] <axel_s> moyer, adding "noapic nolapic" to the boot options made it work
[01:28] <jaydoggg> hey all
[01:28] <khelll> i downloaded this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=41621  as a tar file but i dont know how to install it?
[01:29] <axel_s> moyer, got an resolution of 1280x800 running now
[01:29] <chazco> works great, thanks :)
[01:29] <axel_s> moyer, can't explain it but it works
[01:29] <moyer> axel_s :wow.. thank YOU then :)
[01:29] <jaydoggg> need some help:  My update manager fails to install the updates it found
[01:29] <jaydoggg> here is the error
[01:29] <jaydoggg> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:29] <jaydoggg> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:29] <Frederick> moyer: kubuntu
[01:29] <jaydoggg> i can't get anything going in teh terminal
[01:30] <walls> i tryed running fdisk/mbr but it doesnt work
[01:30] <plukin> jaydoggg: with sudo too?
[01:30] <moyer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/easyubuntu/+bug/106690 jaydoggg
[01:30] <jaydoggg> plukin: so type sudo then the commands?
[01:30] <plukin> yes
[01:31] <plukin> sudo xxx
[01:31] <jaydoggg> plukin: trying that now, thx
[01:31] <kriser223> you get the pastebin
[01:31] <plukin> np
[01:32] <moyer> Frederick : whats the error? does it tell you?
[01:32] <kauer> kriser223: You might like to try with another device, such as a mouse, to see if it is this particular device that has a problem, or if it is all devices. Do you have some other USB device you could try with? The simpler the better (i.e., not a webcam :-) )
[01:33] <Frederick> it says it is forbidden to get the ackages
[01:33] <kauer> kriser223: You should also try your pendrive in each of your four USB slots, just in case one of the slots is defective.
[01:34] <jaydoggg> plukin: it said its setting up java commons, guess thats good huh
[01:34] <kriser223> i have tried this with all devices including printer in windows they just appear under ubuntu nothing happens is there a plug and play program or hotplug or somthing that i need to configure to make them appear
[01:34] <moyer> Frederick try apt-get update
[01:34] <plukin> jaydoggg: yes, hope so :)
[01:34] <kriser223> i have also tried all 4 slots
[01:35] <wckdkl0wn> is there something like fraps but for linux?
[01:35] <jaydoggg> plukin: one question, with my other problems i was typing GKsu to issue commands but your saying Sudo  whats the difference
[01:36] <wckdkl0wn> or does fraps run on linux just fine
[01:36] <kauer> kriser223: Go into DSystem-Preferences-Removable drives and media->Storage. Make sure that "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged" is checked. It's a long shot, but...
[01:37] <khelll> i downloaded this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=41621  as a tar.gz file but i dont know how to install it?
[01:37] <kriser223> it is checked
[01:37] <plukin> jaydoggg: gksu is for a grafical user interface, sudo for the terminal, but some gui's will lunch with sudo as well
[01:37] <plukin> i hope this is mainly true :)
[01:37] <jaydoggg> plukin: i was using gksu in terminal to fix a whole slew of problems the other day
[01:38] <jaydoggg> so if one doesn't work i'll try the other i guess
[01:38] <lueho> what is the command to get my cdrom to open?
[01:38] <lueho> and also close?
[01:38] <bruenig> lueho, eject
[01:38] <lueho> thanks
[01:39] <lueho> eject cdrom -t <- this was for close
[01:39] <lueho> ok thanks peeps
[01:39] <jaydoggg> lueho: you can also right click from file manager and eject
[01:39] <plukin> jaydoggg: hmm, i use only sudo and if a gui will not lunch i use kdesu (gksu for kubuntu)
[01:39] <K-4U> I want to install VMware server, but it keeps saying that i already have some stuff installed from vmware... but that isn't so.. i have removed vmware player completely. what can i do?
[01:39] <bruenig> or press the button
[01:40] <bruenig> or hack around with hal
[01:40] <jaydoggg> bruenig: lol
[01:40] <plukin> jaydoggg: the is maybe a better explanation
[01:40] <lueho> jay dogg rite.. thanks bro
[01:40] <lightfigh1> Can anyone help me with password troubles?
[01:40] <bruenig> !anyone | lightfigh1
[01:40] <ubotu> lightfigh1: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:40] <jaydoggg> lueho: that was the first time I knew something so , thank you !
[01:40] <K-4U> lightfigh1: what's the problem?
[01:40] <kriser223> thanks for the advice i gotta go will be back later
[01:41] <kauer> kriser233: I'm sorry, I can't help you further. Read the USB troubleshooting pages? Good luck.
[01:41] <lightfigh1> My password seems to be randomly changing.
[01:41] <bruenig> lightfigh1, that seems unlikely
[01:41] <jaydoggg> lightfigh1: you may be "randomly hacked"
[01:41] <K-4U> lightfigh1: i have seen something about that! try the login-screen
[01:41] <parC> hello
[01:41] <K-4U> lightfigh1: don't know for sure
[01:41] <bruenig> lightfigh1, is there anyone who has access to your computer locally who is competent with linux?
[01:41] <lueho> jaydoggg :)
[01:42] <lightfigh1> The password I initially set only works sometimes. And one time a subtly different password worked.
[01:42] <lightfigh1> I'm the only one in the house, and I'm not on any network.
[01:42] <parC> DCC SEND WHOSAIDYOUDONTKNOW
[01:42] <jaydoggg> lightfigh1: different user accounts?
[01:42] <bruenig> lightfigh1, well the password is a hash, so the subtly different password would be no different than a completely different one, so that doesn't really make sense
[01:42] <lightfigh1> The password I logged into this session with I cant use to change it under system>preferences>about me
[01:43] <lightfigh1> No only one account
[01:43] <bruenig> lightfigh1, it is saved as a salted hash I should say, and that is how it is checked
[01:43] <walls7> how can i reset my GRUB (MBR) so i can succesfully take off ubuntu?
[01:43] <dvs01> whee
[01:43] <dvs01> http://www.dvs01.net/pics/desktop2.png
[01:43] <PriceChild> walls7, to go straight into windows again?
[01:43] <lightfigh1> Is there anyway I can change the password without knowing it or anything?
[01:44] <bruenig> lightfigh1, no you would know it
[01:44] <dvs01> yes
[01:44] <lightfigh1> I'm afraid to turn the computer off because it might not let me back in again. Last time it took a few hours for it to accept the password.
[01:44] <dvs01> you must be root
[01:44] <Solidays> dvs01: Why are you using mIRC? It's proprietary software :'(
[01:44] <lightfigh1> Yeah I'm the root
[01:44] <Flannel> lightfigh1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[01:44] <LegionX> lightfigh1: "sudo passwd <username> <new password>
[01:44] <dvs01> Solidays: vncing to a windows machine
[01:44] <walls7> PriceChild: yea
[01:44] <bruenig> lightfigh1, have you enabled the root account?
[01:44] <PriceChild> !windows | walls7
[01:44] <ubotu> walls7: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:44] <dvs01> i dont mind using proprietary software, if it gets the job done
[01:44] <PriceChild> walls7, ask them how to use the windows install cd to restore your MBR.
[01:44] <lightfigh1> I don't know if I've enabled the root account I just installed Ubuntu.
[01:45] <bruenig> lightfigh1, ok then you haven't
[01:45] <PriceChild> !sudo | lightfigh1
[01:45] <ubotu> lightfigh1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:45] <bruenig> !ot | dvs01
[01:45] <ubotu> dvs01: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:45] <Flannel> lightfigh1: good.  You don't want the root account.
[01:45] <Flannel> lightfigh1: you'll use the recovery console, at the GRUB menu
[01:45] <walls7> PriceChild: is that the only way?
[01:45] <dvs01> ah
[01:45] <Daann> Can anyone help me with a problem with wireless device of hp?
[01:45] <lightfigh1> So what exactly am I supposed to do? Go to Terminal and type "sudo passwd <username> <new password>?
[01:45] <lueho> what is the chat for people who want to contribute with code to ubuntu project?