[00:00] <daftykins> ubuntu_: back it up to one of the others first?
[00:00] <st__> Orkibo, you don;t have now
[00:00] <daftykins> or better yet an external drive
[00:00] <pankaj_sharma> its better to make ghost image of your drive
[00:00] <demonspork> I am trying to use a locally mounted .iso image as an extra apt repository, how can I add this in?
[00:01] <ubuntu_> daftykins, st__, I have an external hard drive which I could theoretically use for backups. Would I just need to back up the Ubuntu partition? If so, how? Also, can I non-destructively resize my Lucid partition?
[00:01] <daftykins> ubuntu_: well what do you really have on it of any value?
[00:01] <st__> ubuntu_, you should, but i know nothing of macs partitions.
[00:02] <valadares> how i configure 3g internet in Ubuntu
[00:02] <valadares> ?
[00:02] <ubuntu_> daftykins, I have an apache web server that I actively use, a samba server, lots of stuff in ~, and lots of applications. It has been and will continue to be my main work parition.
[00:02] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Losing data is not an option.
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> !3g
[00:03] <st__> ubuntu_, just sudo tar it to file on external hd
[00:03] <daftykins> ubuntu_: technically, as ubuntu is a Linux, you could tar the entire root and back it up, then if things go wrong, do a clean install to the new lower partition size, then restore from the tar
[00:03] <donvitoman> wich one is the best video chat client like windows messenger?
[00:03] <ubuntu_> st__, What should a Mac partition have to do with resizing an Ubuntu parition?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> valadares: http://www.geekology.co.za/blog/2009/05/configuring-vodafone-3g-modem-on-ubuntu-linux-904-jaunty-jackalope/
[00:04] <Orkibo> It's uninstalled. Thanks st__, appreciate it :)
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> donvitoman: amsn
[00:04] <st__> ubuntu_, mac-style partition table i mean
[00:04] <cityLights> pls help me chroot to from livecd to sda6
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !chroot
[00:04] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Okay, how exactly would I go about restoring from the tar?
[00:04] <demonspork> ubuntu_, the mac uses a different type of MBR on the disk, so the way the partitions are marked is different
[00:04] <daftykins> cityLights: is it a single partition install?
[00:04] <cityLights> YES
[00:04] <demonspork> ah, he already answered
[00:04] <ubuntu_> demonspork, st__, and you're saying that there's the potential for borking my system, correct?
[00:04] <daftykins> ubuntu_: you'll need to backup from livecd too, i'd read into the tar manual page
[00:05] <daftykins> there's always the potential for borking when resizing partitions :)
[00:05] <unknown> .
[00:05] <cityLights> I get chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash' : Exec format error
[00:05] <st__> cityLights, mismatched architetctures
[00:05] <daftykins> cityLights: what are you typing?
[00:05] <unknown> hello
[00:06] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Understood, I am actually in the liveCD right now (I don't plan on doing anything though). I can tar the Lucid partition just fine, but how exactly do I restore the new system?
[00:06] <cityLights> hmm 64 bit issue
[00:06] <demonspork> !hello | unknown
[00:06] <cityLights> let me see
[00:06] <demonspork> !hi | unknown
[00:06] <demonspork> whatt
[00:06] <unknown> hi demon
[00:06] <demonspork> when did the hello feature get removed from ubottu
[00:06] <demonspork> :(
[00:06] <rww> demonspork: because people were overusing it
[00:06] <ubuntu_> !botsnack
[00:06] <valadares> ActionParsnip:it's for claro 3g....works?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> !hi | demonspork
[00:06] <ThinkWork> How do I get Xchat to show the people in the current channel?
[00:06] <demonspork> :(
[00:06] <daftykins> ubuntu_: nuke the partition, format it as EXT3 or 4, extract the tar archive back to it, then fix GRUB2 (assuming it's a GRUB2 setup)
[00:07] <demonspork> ThinkWork, by showing the userlist
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> valadares: if the device is seen as a usb storage currently then yes
[00:07] <rww> not hard to just say hi to people by hand. throwing factoids at them was impolite, in my opinion
[00:07] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Okay. Now that I think about this, the trouble of making functional and reliable backups for three different OSs is a little more trouble than it's worth. Thanks for your help though. Oh, and is Lucid Grub2?
[00:08] <sorush20> hi
[00:08] <daftykins> ubuntu_: it is indeed!
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: depends how valuable your data is ;)
[00:08] <ubuntu_> !hello | sorush20
[00:08] <st__> ubuntu_, yes, but I used simple grub just fine
[00:08] <ubuntu_> worth a shot
[00:08] <DrupalJim> just transfered a site to my servr. now i'm getting this in my apache logs and a white screen of death.  Trying to get property of non-object in theme.inc
[00:08] <sorush20> just wanted to find out what is the recommened ftp server to install on ubuntu.
[00:08] <owner> gnome
[00:08] <ThinkWork> demonspork, I dont see any areas in preferences or dropdown lists that allows me to "show userlist"
[00:08] <BadElvis> hi, i first installed win7 on my hard disk and now installed ubuntu on another harddisk. how can i configure grub to let me choose between those two?
[00:08] <daftykins> ubuntu_: personally, i'd just get another disk ;)
[00:08] <owner> back
[00:08] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip, Well, I would not be a happy camper if the paritions exploded :)
[00:08] <daftykins> !grub2 | BadElvis
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> !ftpd | sorush20
[00:09] <st__> DrupalJim, server support is that way ---------------->
[00:09] <daftykins> BadElvis: see ubottu's GRUB2 info
[00:09] <owner> now i see my HDD i have make an partition
[00:09] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Wait.. another disk? I have an external hard drive if that's what you mean.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> sorush20: there is norecommended app for any purpose
[00:09] <daftykins> ubuntu_: nah internal second ;)
[00:09] <demonspork> ThinkWork, Settings>Preferences>Interface>User list> Show user list at:
[00:09] <sorush20> ActionParsnip: I'm using joomla installation I need to know.
[00:09] <demonspork> ThinkWork, if it is already set, just change where it is set and that should make it pop back into place
[00:10] <st__> sorush20, server discussion goes in #ubuntu-server
[00:10] <ubuntu_> daftykins, I wish. This is Apple hardware we're talking about.. in order to do that I need a 20 pound suction cup, plyers, a wrench, and a signed autograph of steve jobs :)
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> sorush20: choose one based on what you need, ftp is very unsecure, sftp is much more secure. If its just for LAN access thn ftp is fine
[00:10] <ThinkWork> I dont have a settings menu... I have preferences under the edit menu, but that has no interface section...
[00:10] <daftykins> ubuntu_: lol ouch, one of those - which type is it may i ask?
[00:10] <BadElvis> !GRUB2
[00:11] <st__> ThinkWork, what are you talking about?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> sorush20: there is no recommended mail app, web browser, chat client, anything. You are using an OS which is built on freedom and choice yet you still ask complete strangers what you should use. Where's your freedom? Smacks of microsoft a bit doesn't it?
[00:11] <ubuntu_> daftykins, It is a 2008 iMac 24''. I got it for my Bar Mitzvah at a time when I was on a little love fest with Apple.. then I got into Linux.. :)
[00:11] <ThinkWork> Responding to demonspork
[00:11] <ThinkWork> How do I get Xchat to show the people in the current channel?
 ThinkWork, Settings>Preferences>Interface>User list> Show user list at:
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> ThinkWork: i thought that was default....
[00:12] <daftykins> ubuntu_: hehe, has your Ubuntu use on it been plain sailing, compatibility wise etc? i think the community lacks some decent feedback on mac hardware use
[00:12] <tigertv69> anybody know if u can resume Xsesions with screen?
[00:12] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip, ThinkWork, I think it is the default in xchat, but not xchat-gnome.
[00:12] <ThinkWork> I dont have a userlist window, I have a thing to click to show users, but it doesnt stay up
[00:12] <ThinkWork> Yes I am using Xchat-Gnome
[00:12] <solidus-river> im trying ot set up passenger on ubuntu
[00:13] <st__> ThinkWork, remove that pos
[00:13] <solidus-river> but if i install it via gem i cant find the executables
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: i see, I use pidgin personally
[00:13] <ThinkWork> I blame Ubuntu
[00:13] <st__> ThinkWork, uncircumcised xchat is much better
[00:13] <ThinkWork> lol
[00:13] <blakkheim> i like irssi
[00:14] <donvito2> any music player like winamp
[00:14] <donvito2> ?
[00:14] <donvito2> for ubuntu maverick
[00:14] <donvito2> ?
[00:14] <FloodBot2> donvito2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | donvito2
[00:14] <st__> donvito2, audacity2
[00:14] <rww> !winamp
[00:14] <donvito2> movie player with subtitles
[00:14] <donvito2> ?
[00:14] <rww> vlc
[00:15] <st__> oh damn audacity is fireforge clone
[00:15] <bastidrazor> donvito2: vlc or mplayer
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> donvito2: mplayer / vlc
[00:15] <donvito2> thx
[00:15] <daftykins> donvito2: i'm sorry to say nothing comes close in all honesty.
[00:15] <tigertv69> anyone?
[00:15] <demonspork> ThinkWork, sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome and then do sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-xsys
[00:15] <demonspork> ThinkWork, xchat gnome isn't xchat
[00:15] <daftykins> tigertv69: anything in its' man page?
[00:16] <tigertv69> doesnt say
[00:16] <tigertv69> or specifiy
[00:16] <rww> tigertv69: pretty sure you can't
[00:16] <tigertv69> is there anything
[00:16] <tigertv69> or anyway you can do that
[00:16] <ubuntu_> daftykins, It's an interesting story. I tried a few months after I got the iMac to put the then-current 9.04 on it.. I don't think the thing even booted. (Granted, I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag back then let alone find my away around a linux system). I tried 9.10 and had better luck, and used it for a while, but I stopped because I wasn't capable enough to use it over OS X at the time. A few borks (due to my own experi
[00:16] <ubuntu_> mentation) after Lucid, I stuck around wtih it and set up my currnet triple boot. Lucid works MAGICALLY with my iMac. Literally everything works out of the box.. even wireless works on the liveCD (I'm on it right now)!. Interestingly there is this odd rumor on the net and in ##macosx that Linux can't control the Apple SMC => CPU fry. However I and lots of other people use Linux on their Macs daily so I don't know what's up. To be hon
[00:16] <ubuntu_> est, the reason for the third partition is primarily to put ArchLinux on; I love it in VirtualBox but it's just not the same as if it were baremetal. So yeah, hardware support is excellent, save a problem with fglrx that is in the Lucid repos and has been fixed for a month via Catalyst on the ATI website.
[00:16] <st__> what is the simplest way to get a list of files except several specified names
[00:16] <FloodBot2> ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <RJ_F1> how can I set up a bot, similar to ubottu, for my channel?
[00:17] <ubuntu_> That was quite a mouthful.
[00:17] <st__> RJ_F1, chech freenode site
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> RJ_F1: http://www.wikihow.com/Set-Up-YourBot-IRC-Bot
[00:17] <owner> can any one tell me how do i low format my hdd from a live linux cd?
[00:17] <tigertv69> basically let me give senario: i want to do ftp transfers on my ubuntu server... i have my laptop with mye.. i setup Xming.. and do the X to start the transfers.. working great.. then i need to go out.. i bring my laptop with me.. ... when i come back home i connect back to my server and want the files to still be downloading while i am gone.. so i log back into ssh and then the X app pops...
[00:17] <tigertv69> ...up or i go back to see its completed its run
[00:17] <demonspork> How do I use a mounted disk image with a package repo on it? I only have CLI, no gui
[00:17] <st__> owner, low format is a myth
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> owner: you can echo 0s to the disk to blank it
[00:17] <owner> st__ i need to rebuilt my sectors....cause i have bad sectors on it
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> owner: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda    for example
[00:18] <st__> owner, bad sectors are myth too
[00:18] <Eimhin> I'm just after installing a .deb that I converted from .rpm with alien, but I can't run it. It's shown in synaptic as installed, but when I run "qjoypad" in the terminal I get "Bash: qjoypad: Command not found"
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> owner: if it has bad sectors, chuck it, its bad
[00:18] <rww> !alien
[00:18] <daftykins> ubuntu_: cool :) thanks for that, very interesting
[00:18] <st__> it's not 1991, the device electronics takes care of that
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: extract the deb in your home folder someplace to see what files it makes
[00:18] <st__> all good stuff is RPM anyway
[00:19] <Eimhin> mkay
[00:19] <tigertv69> is what im asking impossible?
[00:19] <ubuntu_> daftykins, Yup :) Thanks again for your help, I gotta run -- it's dinner time!
[00:19] <lacrymology> can I get help setting up jack, please?
[00:19] <owner> what means chuck?
[00:19] <there__> Hello
[00:20] <owner> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda i have enter this in terminal, and now my hdd led i on ? is formating or what?
[00:20] <st__> !nick
[00:20] <rww> owner: "chuck it" means throw it away
[00:20] <Eimhin> I get 3 files, "control.tar.gz", "data.tar.gz" and "debian-binary"
[00:20] <blakkheim> owner: lol
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: you can install it using deb via the getdeb ppa
[00:20] <Eimhin> K I'll try that
[00:20] <st__> owner, you're just corrupting it right now, wiping your windows 7 and your data
[00:20] <owner> i wont throw away a 250 gb hdd, cause i dont have money for another
[00:21] <owner> st__ is no problem , i just want it to delet all things, and make it clean
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> owner: its writing 0s the the disk you named. I hope sda is the disk you want to wipe, i only used sda as an example (as I said)
[00:21] <owner> ActionParsnip i just have 1 partition and want it all deleted  :p
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> owner: doesn't matter, you still need to set the right disk
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> owner: the disk will degrade until your OS simply doesn't boot, if your system can boot USB then you can install to a USB stick or SD card
[00:22] <Eimhin> ActionParsnip, how abouts do I use it
[00:22] <Eimhin> the getdeb ppa that is
[00:23] <owner> i dont have an os on my hdd
[00:23] <owner> i will instal after this thing finish
[00:23] <tensorpudding> How might one export a list of packages installed on the system, for use in restoring from backups?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: add the ppa and you can install using software centre etc
[00:23] <Eimhin> gotcha
[00:23] <rww> !clone
[00:24] <pankaj_sharma> owner: format complete?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Eimhin: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/getdeb_games?dist=lucid
[00:24] <owner> ActionParnship no, terminal still waits
[00:24] <owner> and led still flash
[00:24] <tensorpudding> rww: grazie!
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> owner: yep, its writing '0' from the start of the drive to the end
[00:25] <st__> 250GB may take several hours
[00:25] <owner> ActionParsnip , so this is like a low format? or total format , no?
[00:25] <owner> is diferent from Quik format ?
[00:26] <donvito2> you know why is stupid ubuntu >\
[00:26] <donvito2> ?
[00:26] <donvito2> because you cant make video calls
[00:26] <knolls> ubuntu chat?
[00:26] <st__> donvito2, ubuntu is low-cost server solution, it's not made for video calls
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> owner: the disk will be written zero, it will still be the current format but the data will be destroyed
[00:26] <Eimhin> ActionParsnip, I'm getting more of the same, it says it's installed and then I go to run it, command not found
[00:27] <Eimhin> http://pastebin.com/zuZKJTrB
[00:27] <jrib> donvito2: except you can?
[00:27] <owner> ActionParsnip , what about bad sectors? they will be ignored? or isolated?
[00:27] <donvito2> st__ ubuntu desktop what does this mean?
[00:27] <Eimhin> You can make video calls
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> owner: quick fomat only wipes the FAT
[00:27] <blakkheim> donvito2: just because you don't know how to do it doesn't mean it can't be done
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> owner: not sure about that dude, bad sectors are failurs on the disk
[00:28] <donvito2> canot capture from your camer it says
[00:28] <st__> donvito2, that it is intended to leeech some support money from Debian
[00:28] <daveinlv> am running Ubuntu 10.04, decided to install KDE to see what it looked like, now I'd like to be able to switch back to Gnome, but the selector on the login screen seems to have disappeared. I want Gnome to be the default manager.. I checked the "Alternatives Configurator" and for x-session-manager it shows /usr/bin/gnome-session but if I log out/back in, I'm still in KDE... Help!
[00:28]  * davidfetter thinks they should have called it the Persistent Hardware Allocation Table
[00:28] <jrib> st__: what on earth are you talking about?
[00:28] <davidfetter> so it'd be PHAT, yo
[00:28] <owner> ActionParsnip ok , i think i must wait long time till this finish cause is 250 gb hdd :-S
[00:28] <rww> jrib: nothing sane, as usual
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> owner: yep, depends on the drive speed etc too, not just space
[00:29] <owner> ActionParsnip, any way i think it will take like 1 hour :p
[00:30] <Eimhin> I'm getting more of the same, it says it's installed and then I go to run it, command not found
[00:30] <Eimhin> http://pastebin.com/zuZKJTrB
[00:30] <lacrymology> jack has hung, and kill -s 9 doesn't do the trick
[00:30] <donvito2> another client execpt amsn to make video calls with msn ?
[00:31] <lubun2> Eimhin, it said 0 installed
[00:31] <krabador> donvito2, emesne
[00:31] <krabador> donvito2, emesene
[00:31] <Eimhin> because the latest version is already isntalled
[00:31] <donvito2> okey thank you
[00:32] <Eimhin> I had it installed already ActionParsnip told me to add another source and try it again
[00:32] <Shaman__> how i can configure a sound setting, my sound card is nvidia mcp61
[00:32] <shinkamui> Im trying to do an install with the default iso, is there a way to install from the console if the live cd portion isn't working and I can only get console graphics?
[00:33] <shinkamui> or do I have to download the alternate cd
[00:34] <donvito2> maybe
[00:34] <st__> shinkamui, no yo u need alternate
[00:35] <donvito2> something is wrong with my webcam , anyway how to install apache?
[00:35] <donvito2> !apache
[00:35] <st__> is the lamp issue when it was sending php sources fixed now?
[00:36] <shinkamui> st__, thanks, was trying to avoid that, but Ill search for one.  Seems the PPC arch is dead and its not so easy to get a non nightly build for 10.10
[00:36] <Shaman__> how configure a sound,  my sound card is nvidia mcp61
[00:36] <A_New_Server> What is the file type that Ubuntu uses? Like if I compile a C++ program for Ubuntu and for Windows, it does the same thing but I don't see a file type when I click it in Ubuntu
[00:36] <A_New_Server> Like if I click windows I see executable or .exe
[00:37] <blakkheim> A_New_Server: linux does not depend on file extensions, it looks at what the file actually is
[00:37] <st__> A_New_Server, usually it's no extension
[00:37] <A_New_Server> So why do some files, most actually, have extensions? o.O Is that just for the users benefit?
[00:37] <lenswipe> heyg uys
[00:37] <blakkheim> yes
[00:38] <A_New_Server> Ah, thanks.
[00:38] <erUSUL> A_New_Server: correct
[00:38] <st__> A_New_Server, it's faster than file heuristics
[00:38] <Shaman__> помоги настроить звук плз, звуковая плата nvidia mcp61
[00:38] <bazhang> Shaman__, #ubuntu-ru
[00:38] <st__> A_New_Server, also file cannot handle complex documents like xml ones or ole storage
[00:39] <erUSUL> A_New_Server: linux uses magic db to see what a file really is. see « man file » in a terminal
[00:39] <Shaman__> i cant go to ubuntu ru, it  write i'm banned, but i never go here
[00:39] <dludldin> hi everyone!
[00:39] <st__> Shaman__, register a nickname on freenode
[00:40] <st__> /nickserver help
[00:40] <dludldin> how do i reinstall a program from scratch?
[00:40] <bazhang> st__, its not set to +r
[00:40] <rww> st__: that's not the problem
[00:40] <st__> dludldin, sudo aptitude reinstall PACKAGE
[00:40] <rww> Shaman__: your ident is set to "root", which is banned from that channel for some reason. Consider changing it.
[00:41] <dludldin> st__ : complete removal didn t work. is that a similar way of what you told me to do?
[00:41] <MooshiMuushi> Hey everyone :)
[00:42] <MooshiMuushi> Remove of what?
[00:42] <st__> dludldin, yes, remove it from /var/lib/dpkg/status and install again
[00:43] <tyme> ello world
[00:44] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04...help
[00:45] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04...help!!!!
[00:45] <blakkheim> no need to repeat yourself
[00:45] <st__> tyme, and your hardware is?
[00:46] <tyme> compaq cq62
[00:46] <dludldin> st__ : remove it from status? what do you mean?
[00:46] <donvito2> how to restart open ssh server
[00:47] <blakkheim>  /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[00:48] <MooshiMuushi> Is there a way to use ad-hoc and infrastructure internet at the same time?
[00:48] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: two wireless devices
[00:49] <dludldin> how do i reinstall a program from scratch?
[00:50] <tyme> all hope is lost...i am slowly dying inside...help
[00:50] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Can't we connect to 2 wireless at the same time? Using 1 device?
[00:50] <daftykins> doubt it
[00:50] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, What about Lan + Wireless at the same time?
[00:51] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: there's no such thing as ad-hoc on wired? :)
[00:51] <daftykins> what are you trying to do? :)
[00:51] <dinky> Hi folks, having trouble setting up my Apache Webserver using Webmin. Am a complete noob at servers
[00:51] <daftykins> dinky: dedicated box install, VM, ?
[00:51] <blakkheim> !webmin > dinky
[00:51] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Ahaha, nono. Lan (Ethernet cable) and Wireless (Internet).
[00:51] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, PS3 Media Server.
[00:52] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: are you trying to share a wireless net connection to a PS3 over a wired connection? 0o
[00:52] <dinky> ubottu, not entirely helpful.
[00:52] <dinky> Dedicated box install
[00:53] <tyme> i'm dying???
[00:53] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Wireless is for the internet for the Laptop :) Lan is for the media server for the PS3.
[00:53] <dinky> I have it set up on a seperate machine as a server, and can browse the machine from it's local ip address, but I only get "It works, no content added"
[00:53] <daftykins> MooshiMuushi: just plug it in and set a static IP on laptop + PS3 then \o/
[00:53] <dinky> Having a really hard time adding content
[00:53] <donvito2> !photoshop
[00:54] <MooshiMuushi> daftykins, Doesn't wireless media server cost download/upload usage?
[00:54] <dinky> I have tried setting document root to /var/www and dropping a index.html file, but no change
[00:54] <daftykins> dinky: /var/www/ is the root, so if webmin isn't APT installable, you'd have to put its' files in there to access it from another box
[00:55] <dinky> daftykins, I've done that.
[00:55] <daftykins> so your changes aren't coming up?
[00:55] <dinky> Not at all
[00:55] <daftykins> dinky: checked /etc/apache2/ blah blah... sites-enabled ?
[00:55] <dinky> Have tried setting up another virtual server, no luck
[00:55] <dinky> No....
[00:55] <dludldin> how do i reinstall a program from scratch?
[00:56] <dinky> I've seen that file... what does it do?
[00:56] <daftykins> dludldin: sudo apt-get reinstall --purge <package>
[00:56] <blakkheim> !repeat | dludldin
[00:56] <daftykins> dinky: one sec lemme SSH into my web server
[00:57] <dinky> Thanks daftykins
[00:57] <daftykins> dinky: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[00:57] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04 in flash videos...anyone???
[00:57] <dinky> daftykins: will see what my file says
[00:57] <daftykins> dinky: might be worth a...
[00:57] <daftykins> !pastebin
[00:59] <uLinux> How can I reset NVIDIA X Server Settings?
[00:59] <uLinux> Can I delete xorg.conf?
[01:00] <daftykins> uLinux: have you set something you don't want in there?
[01:00] <uLinux> daftykins: some stuff but to be sure i'd like to reset everything to default
[01:01] <tyme> no sound in ubuntu 10.04 in flash videos @aarcane
[01:01] <daftykins> uLinux: see if the relevant thing has been put in xorg.conf
[01:03] <uLinux> daftykins: I typed 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[01:03] <uLinux> and it changed the xorg.conf
[01:05] <sir_tyrion> How can I log out of an x session (gdm session) on commandline
[01:05] <daftykins> uLinux: all that'd do is give you a basic config that uses the nvidia driver. if it's broken something, restore the backup that that created
[01:05] <daftykins> sir_tyrion: you could just restart GDM
[01:06] <uLinux> daftykins: well everything works fine :P
[01:06] <Izinucs> sir_tyrion: sudo service gdm stop .. after that pidof gdm to see if anthing is remaining..
[01:06] <uLinux> daftykins: it's just that default xorg.conf was smaller
[01:07] <sir_tyrion> Thanks, sudo service gdm restart worked
[01:07] <dinky> daftykins: just checked /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default and there's nothing there
[01:07] <daftykins> dinky: literally empty?
[01:07] <Izinucs> sir_tyrion: yep.. restart is another  as well as stop/start
[01:07] <dinky> daftykins: yup
[01:08] <dinky> daftykins: how do I configure it? There's another file, webmin.(lotsanumbers).conf that seems to be from the virtual server I tried to add
[01:09] <daftykins> hmm
[01:09] <daftykins> what's in that?
[01:09] <dinky> Hang on...
[01:10] <dinky> daftykins: <VirtualHost *:*>
[01:10] <dinky> DocumentRoot "/var/www"
[01:10] <dinky> <Directory "/var/www">
[01:10] <dinky> allow from all
[01:10] <dinky> Options +Indexes
[01:10] <FloodBot2> dinky: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.

[01:11] <uLinux> bbl
[01:11] <bericp1> hey guys... i have a problem
[01:11] <jackyalcine> developer chat?
[01:11] <daftykins> ?
[01:11] <jimlovell777> Is there a way to expand the area around a window that's used for resizing? I find it extremely difficult to hit that tiny margin.
[01:11] <tigertv69> anoyne knw?
[01:11] <daftykins> jimlovell777: i have the same problem, there've been bugs for ages but no idea personally...
[01:11] <siddhion> hey how does one get to their File System folder in Terminal
[01:12] <daftykins> siddhion: cd /
[01:12] <dinky> Daftykins: It's something like this: <VirtualHost *:*>DocumentRoot "/var/www"<Directory "/var/www">allow from allOptions +Indexes</Directory></VirtualHost>
[01:12] <jimlovell777> daftykins: I think it's getting worse. It went from hard to seeming twitchy even as of late.
[01:12] <siddhion> daftykins, hey, cd / brings me to my home folder
[01:12] <daftykins> dinky: lol use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[01:12] <SoulShadow> or just pastebin.com
[01:12] <daftykins> siddhion: sounds like you're locked in a chroot
[01:13] <tigertv69> anyone
[01:13] <tigertv69> basically let me give senario: i want to do ftp transfers on my ubuntu server... i have my laptop with mye.. i setup Xming.. and do the X to start the transfers.. working great.. then i need to go out.. i bring my laptop with me.. ... when i come back home i connect back to my server and want the files to still be downloading while i am gone.. so i log back into ssh and then the X app pops...
[01:13] <daftykins> siddhion: type "pwd" then "cd .." then "pwd" again, the path should change
[01:13] <dinky> daftykins: thanks
[01:14] <siddhion> daftykins, pwd says I am in '/' dir. then I do cd .. and pwd again and i still get '/' as my dir
[01:14] <daftykins> ah, you are in root then ;)
[01:14] <daftykins> siddhion: so "ls"
[01:14] <daftykins> you're in the very top of the file system, aka root, aka /
[01:15] <siddhion> daftykins, right but I would like to get to 'File System' folder to get to the 'usr' folder
[01:15] <dinky> Sorry folks, noob here at xchat, I've just used pastebin, what do I do next?
[01:15] <DualProxy> Is there anyway to launch two commands at the same time? I have tried cmd1; cmd2 , but it waits for cmd1 to finish.
[01:15] <siddhion> daftykins, just getting back into Ubunutu and I am quite rusty
[01:15] <tigertv69> nybody?
[01:15] <daftykins> dinky: just paste in the link it gave you
[01:16] <daftykins> siddhion: oh i get you, so "cd /usr"
[01:16] <dinky> daftykins: Thanks. Here's what's in the webmin.conf file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/504226/
[01:16] <siddhion> daftykins, ahh nice
[01:17] <furryotter> I have a newb PHP Question: I'm trying to get a website up that relies heavily on php. The scripts save files to a directory so it has to have write permissions. What permissions do I have on the directories running the scripts?
[01:17] <siddhion> daftykins,  thanks! also do you know of a way I can make it so when I press TAB to autocomplete folder/file name it ignores case-sensativity?
[01:17] <daftykins> siddhion: no sorry, good practice to get used to it :)
[01:17] <daftykins> dinky: hmm, have you tried restarting apache since you installed webmin? i've never used it before to be honest
[01:17] <siddhion> daftykins, ok. thanks
[01:18] <dinky> daftykins: yeah, no luck.
[01:18] <tensorpudding> furryotter: our telepathy is not powerful enough to glean the permissions of directories on your machine
[01:18] <dinky> daftykins: thanks for trying to help, I'll have a go elsewhere. Cheers.
[01:18] <furryotter> tensorpudding: lol nice. I mean does the directory have to have the same persmissions as the apache user
[01:18] <daftykins> dinky: no problem, gl! i'd imagine that 'site' isn't enabled properly in the config
[01:18] <daftykins> doh
[01:19] <tensorpudding> furryotter: if you're using mod_php I think so
[01:21] <tensorpudding> furryotter: it just has to be able to have the apache user able to write to it, it doesn't have to be owned by the apache user
[01:21] <furryotter> tensorpudding: Do I have to enable the php mod in my site?
[01:22] <furryotter> tensorpudding: the website itself is going to fetch files from another site when they click a button. so I think it's actually apache writing to the directory and not the user himself.
[01:23] <Kurdistan> why is nvidias closed drivers slower in maverick then lucid?
[01:23] <Spaztic_One> OK, so I've been fighting this for a bit and have made no progress thus far. I am trying to access a winxp machine from my 10.04 laptop, and access the laptop via the winxp machine, as well as share a printer that is located on the windows computer. I had file sharing working fine before, but it is not currently. What do I need to do to get things functioning properly again?
[01:23] <tensorpudding> furryotter: that's what i mean, the owner of the apache process
[01:23] <tensorpudding> furryotter: i think that's www-data by default
[01:23] <Kurdistan> why do I have problem to create bootable usb with maverick but not lucid?
[01:24] <Nextop> DualProxy:
[01:24] <furryotter> tensorpudding: you're right! I'm looking at config file and it has user www-data group web
[01:24] <Nextop> DualProxy: try cmd1 && cmd2
[01:24] <furryotter> tensorpudding: so the directory would have to have permissions for www-data and web to r/w, correct?
[01:24] <Nextop> that hsould run 2 commands at the same time
[01:24] <Ryen> Kurdistan: Why do you want to install Maverick?
[01:25] <DualProxy> Nextop: Same issue, it waits for an exit of 0
[01:25] <Kurdistan> Ryen I tried it out
[01:25] <Kurdistan> and installed it on usb stick
[01:26] <Kurdistan> I have download lucid iso and others
[01:26] <Kurdistan> both with unetbootin and usb-creator on ubuntu
[01:26] <Kurdistan> no luck
[01:26] <Nextop> DualProxy: well you can just run cmd in the background eg: cmd1 &; cmd2 &; (that should run both in the background)
[01:26] <DualProxy> Nextop: *Solved* (cmd1 &);(cmd2 &)
[01:27] <tensorpudding> furryotter: yeah
[01:27] <Ryen> Kurdistan: But my question still remains, why do you want to install Maverick. If Lucid works, then you should be using the most current release.
[01:27] <Nextop> :p
[01:27] <furryotter> tensorpudding: thank you
[01:27] <Kurdistan> Ryen I am restless
[01:28] <Nextop> Kurdistan: Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <Kurdistan> Nextop what?
[01:29] <Ryen> !10.10 | Kurdistan
[01:29] <Kurdistan> I know what maverick is
[01:29] <Ryen> Kurdistan: This channel is for Lucid and earlier, if you need help with Maverick, then please goto #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <Kurdistan> okey
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> so i have a mac with two SSD, I have OSX installed using RAID 0, So how can i install ubuntu using mdraid (raid 0) and osx still using raid 0??? (this is a macbook pro)
[01:31] <dludldin> i tryed to reinstall several times with different methods but somehow ubuntu has data from changes ive made when using the program and it doesn t let program start with original configuration
[01:32] <plovs> SuperMiguel why not in parallels?
[01:33] <dludldin> is there a way to say.. hello ubuntu you are under an hipnotic power... you never used this program before...?
[01:33] <malton> i have a usb drive that i need to format (right now it is ntfs --or whatever the windows file system is) but ubuntu doesn't recognize it so i can't format it.  how can i get ubuntu to see it?
[01:34] <Genie> mount?
[01:35] <Izinucs> What's available in the repos for document management.. could be local to the pc or web based?
[01:36] <Fableflame> I have a problem. I decided to open a Chromium window in a second workspace, so I would have one Chromium window in one workspace, and another in workspace 2. However, as soon as I did that, I unchecked the "use system title bar and borders" and after that my top panel and my Docky disappeared. If I mouse over where Docky is supposed to be, I get little tool tips where my applications are supposed to be, and if I click where my Ubuntu
[01:36] <Fableflame>  menu is supposed to be, I can stll see a drop down menu. How do I get my panels and Docky visible again?
[01:36] <Fableflame> sorry for the flood
[01:36] <f00bar80> how to neve put system in standby from the command line ? as from the power options it's not working
[01:36] <daftykins> malton: is it not showing up with "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[01:36] <Braber01> can sombody remind me which -eq == op works with numbers in bash?
[01:37] <malton> daftykins: no, i don't see it at least
[01:37] <daftykins> malton: replug it?
[01:38] <malton> daftykins: it is a new drive i just bought it today.  i just want to format it.
[01:38] <f00bar80> i.e how to disable hibernate and standby
[01:39] <malton> daftykins: i just replugged it and it still isn't showing up
[01:40] <chaterzzzz> hi
[01:40] <daftykins> malton: check dmesg ?
[01:42] <chaterzzzz> any tool for install ?
[01:42] <Guest7873> nick mark2010
[01:43] <f00bar80> any commment
[01:43] <malton> daftykins: i think this is the most relevant part (if not let me know and i will pastebin the whole thing)  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/HCv2HHnJ
[01:43] <Guest7873> NICK mark2010
[01:43] <daftykins> malton: just sounds like talk of an optical drive and a film being put in
[01:43] <malton> oh
[01:44] <daftykins> malton: if you plug and replug it, it should be right at the end... so "dmesg | tail" would show it
[01:44] <tigertv69> hey guys... is there another app equitable toscreen
[01:44] <daftykins> s/would/should/
[01:44] <tigertv69> but i can use with X apps
[01:44] <mark2010> I need help for GRUB with Ubuntu 10.10, just get white screen...
[01:45] <tensorpudding> tigertv69: tmux
[01:45] <tensorpudding> tigertv69: oh, with x apps
[01:45] <tensorpudding> tigertv69: no
[01:46] <tigertv69> nothing with X apps
[01:46] <tigertv69> ?
[01:46] <malton> daftykins: nope, nothing i guess
[01:46] <adriel> hi
[01:46] <adriel> i new
[01:46] <daftykins> malton: erk, possibly it's dead? are you trying on front USB ports or motherboard ones? (or is it a lappy?)
[01:46] <malton> laptop
[01:46] <adriel> i am from brasil
[01:47] <kaizen> anyone know an ubuntu equivelant of camtasia studio?
[01:47] <daftykins> !br | adriel
[01:47] <tensorpudding> !br | adriel
[01:47] <oem> hello?
[01:47] <daftykins> high five tensorpudding
[01:47] <tensorpudding> !hi | oem
[01:47] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:47] <daftykins> hi oem
[01:47] <oem> how you doing?
[01:47] <tensorpudding> hmm, where did !hi go...
[01:48] <daftykins> tensorpudding: got removed apparently
[01:48] <malton> daftykins: the last thing it records is: lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[01:48] <oem> i was in software manager, and thought that this looked cool, so i installed this
[01:48] <malton> ... and it is a laptop
[01:48] <mark2010> is this the room for Ubuntu 10.10 questions?
[01:48] <Ryen> !10.10 | mark2010
[01:48] <chaterzzzz> any idea for this Oct  2 02:48:14 ubuntu kernel: [28052.910056] eth0: auto-negotiating.. ??
[01:48] <daftykins> malton: hmm is the device possibly dead?
[01:49] <malton> daftykins: i guess it could be.  i just bought it today so i would like to think not but who knows
[01:50] <daftykins> malton: worked on windows though yeah?
[01:50] <malton> unfortunately (in this situation) no one is running windows so i can't see how it would react if launched in its native environment
[01:50] <daftykins> ah
[01:50] <KayAteChef> the 'script' in step 2 of this installation guide is a binary and doesn't execute even thought I gave it +x https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[01:50] <daftykins> malton: sorry i can't be of any better help, i'd definitely try on a windows PC next
[01:51] <malton> daftykins: ok... i will see if i can hunt one down. thanks for the help.
[01:51] <daftykins> KayAteChef: did you extract first? it's a .tar.gz
[01:51] <chaterzzzz> how can I update the kernel ? plx
[01:51] <daftykins> chaterzzzz: sudo apt-get install linux
[01:51] <KayAteChef> I didn't realise the script was a tar.gz
[01:52] <KayAteChef> the vmware release is
[01:52] <furryotter> where can I find apache logs?
[01:52] <KayAteChef> but the script is meantt o be .sh
[01:52] <chaterzzzz> daftykins, I have linux installed
[01:52] <daftykins> furryotter: /var/log/apache2
[01:52] <furryotter> thank you
[01:52] <daftykins> KayAteChef: there's a .sh inside it
[01:52] <chaterzzzz> ubu, but i need know if I need update something more manualy
[01:53] <Spaztic_One> OK, so I've been fighting this for a bit and have made no progress thus far. I am trying to access a winxp machine from my 10.04 laptop, and access the laptop via the winxp machine, as well as share a printer that is located on the windows computer. I had file sharing working fine before, but it is not currently. What do I need to do to get things functioning properly again?
[01:53] <chaterzzzz> furryotter, adm > succes visor??
[01:53] <KayAteChef> I have VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.i386.tar.gz AND  vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh in the same directory
[01:54] <KayAteChef> one is meant to be a  script and the other is the source tarball I assume
[01:55] <Gnea> KayAteChef: correct, in the reverse order.
[01:55] <KayAteChef> well yeah
[01:55] <daftykins> chaterzzzz: yeah that updates the package :)
[01:56] <Gnea> ?
[01:56] <KayAteChef> however ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh doesn't work
[01:56] <Gnea> that doesn't tell me anything.
[01:56] <KayAteChef> it says "cannot execute binary file"
[01:56] <daftykins> KayAteChef: just sign up on vmware.com and download it yourself. it's free to get server
[01:57] <Gnea> KayAteChef: are you sure you're running it right?
[01:57] <KayAteChef> well I /did/ download it
[01:57] <KayAteChef> that is why i have the tarball
[01:58] <KayAteChef> Gnea I used chmod +x vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:58] <KayAteChef> and sudo ./vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:58] <KayAteChef> no cigar
[01:59] <Gnea> KayAteChef: I see. what is the output of this command:  ls -l vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:59] <KayAteChef> -rwxr-xr-x 1 felix felix 8586 2010-10-02 09:53 vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[01:59] <KayAteChef> as I said...
[02:00] <KayAteChef> the strange thing here is that  vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh is a binary file
[02:00] <VisualAssassin> anyone from toronto, canada in here?
[02:00] <KayAteChef> it shouldn't be a binary
[02:00] <Gnea> KayAteChef: and what is the output of this command:  head -n1 vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh
[02:00] <KayAteChef> it should be a plaintect script
[02:00] <rww> VisualAssassin: I note that #ubuntu-ca exists :)
[02:01] <Gnea> KayAteChef: and you're believing this outright?
[02:01] <xiong> I tried to use Startup Applications -> Options -> Automatically remember.... Now I have 3 problems. *Problem #1:* On restart, my screen resolution came up the wrong size; all my windows were resized to compensate. I had to go to Display and reset the resolution. But now, various apps, such as Nautilus and Geany, "remember" the wrong geometry.
[02:01] <demonspork> how do I add a small repository that on a cd rom ISO
[02:01] <KayAteChef> �<�r�ؒ��z�O6�	v�q�1�
[02:01] <VisualAssassin> not from canada...just wanted to hassle any toronto maple leafs fans
[02:01] <KayAteChef> as I say... a binary
[02:01] <Gnea> KayAteChef: interesting... and you've ran it through the file command as well?
[02:02] <KayAteChef> nope
[02:02] <Dragon64> VisualAssassin -- I'm from Rochester, thats close!
[02:02] <KayAteChef> vmware-server-2.0.x-kernel-2.6.3x-install.sh: gzip compressed data, from Unix
[02:02] <Dragon64> lol
[02:02] <KayAteChef> a .gz
[02:02] <KayAteChef> :O
[02:02] <VisualAssassin> well if your a leafs fan ur team is getting spanked
[02:02]  * Gnea hands KayAteChef a cigar
[02:03] <Dragon64> haha, no, and I don't like the Bills neither!
[02:03] <Gnea> VisualAssassin: got anything on-topic to add to this channel?
[02:03] <VisualAssassin> ummmmmmmm
[02:03] <VisualAssassin> yeahhhhh
[02:03] <hyacinth> #join ubuntu-cn
[02:03] <Gnea> :)
[02:03] <VisualAssassin> i love ubuntu, recently converted, and i hope its faster once i upgrade the ram
[02:04] <Gnea> upgrading ram is always a good step
[02:04] <VisualAssassin> i dont want to join ubuntu-cn
[02:04] <Dragon64> it is a nice piece of work
[02:04] <VisualAssassin> yeah, its already fast, but i do need to upgrade my memory to two gigs
[02:04] <VisualAssassin> this machine im running now i had vista on, and i said screw this, i couldnt even use it, so i installed ubuntu
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> any of you guys know if rEFIt supports 2 Hard Drive?
[02:05] <Gnea> if I could get my wifi to work, I'd get my home system to get a working GUI on it to work with the 4G in it
[02:05] <xiong> Okay, well, no takers on #1... moving on... *Problem #2:* After reboot, all previously open windows open in virtual desktop 1 -- the upper left. I have 8.
[02:05] <Gnea> VisualAssassin: nice choice. I never gave vista the time of day after I learned how much like windows ME it turned out to be.
[02:06] <Dragon64> xiong, sounds like you saved your session on shutdown
[02:06] <Dragon64> its a setting
[02:06] <xiong> Dragon64, Correct.
[02:06] <VisualAssassin> i got this machine cheap a few years ago and i had the dough to spend so i did...bad investment
[02:06] <teage> can anyone tell me why virtualbox will not compile under lucid?
[02:06] <erkan^> have Launchpad.net a Dutch manual? :S
[02:06] <Gnea> VisualAssassin: well, maybe on the software end, but if the hardware is still running strong I wouldn't say anything bad about it
[02:06] <xiong> I tried to use Startup Applications -> Options -> Automatically remember....
[02:06] <rgenthner> has anyone gotten a ATI card and Nvidia work in the same xorg config?
[02:07] <VisualAssassin> yeah thats what i mean...hardware is good....VISTA BLOWSSS
[02:07] <Gnea> :)
[02:07] <xiong> Dragon64, Can this be fixed?
[02:07] <Dragon64> so you want it shut off, or your app windows spread to different desk tops?
[02:07] <VisualAssassin> the computer looked sleek to ya know thats another reason i bought it
[02:07] <Dragon64> i think let me check my system here
[02:07] <lucius> hi guys
[02:08] <Gnea> the only way a computer looks sleek to me is via the specs, so I'm kind of guessing that's what you're referring to, and less about physical glare
[02:08] <KayAteChef> daftykins, Gnea, thanks for youe help
[02:08] <xiong> Dragon64, I want my windows to come up in the desktops where they were previously. I think I don't want to use "Automatically Remember..."; I turned that off. I can press the remember-now button when I want it.
[02:08] <Gnea> KayAteChef: cheers
[02:08] <VisualAssassin> no physical glare....im a looks kind of guy. I usually buy shit if it looks good, but having good specs is just as important
[02:08] <Dragon64> hmmm not sure about that, I dont think it is very sophisticated, but let me see
[02:09] <soadfreak15> hey everyone
[02:09] <felon> hi
[02:09] <xiong> I think it may just be overwhelming to try to relaunch all previously running apps. Better to manually save the important ones.
[02:09] <soadfreak15> i need help booting off a usb
[02:10] <Ryen> !ask | soadfreak15
[02:10] <xiong> soadfreak15, I can't actually help but I'll say that I tried to do that. Note that this is hardware dependent; my particular machine just won't boot USB, no matter what.
[02:10] <Guest70413> hi
[02:10] <Ryen> !hi | Guest70413
[02:11] <soadfreak15> i try booting off a usb and i get the ubuntu with the orange dots like its loading but then the screen goes black then white and changes colors from red to green to blue then grey and starts again and wont go anywhere else
[02:11] <Ryen> They keep taking out commands without updating.. Guest70413, how can I help you?
[02:11] <Guest70413> my English is very poor
[02:12] <Ryen> Guest70413: What language do you speak?
[02:12] <soadfreak15> ?
[02:12] <IdleOne> !cn | Guest70413
[02:12] <xiong> Well, let's try another. *Problem #3, still related to the session manager:* After reboot, I think all my onscreen text -- everywhere -- panels, window titles, contents, the whole shooting match -- is not quite right. All text appears just a bit blurry, maybe a little too bold. I checked Appearance -> Fonts.
[02:12] <Guest70413> Chinese
[02:13] <Guest70413> get it,thank you
[02:13] <IdleOne> welcome
[02:13] <soadfreak15> i try to run ubuntu from my usb it starts up a looks like its loading but the screen goes black then white and keeps changing colors
[02:13] <evon> is it possible to embed linux into your motherboard yourself so you have a system that boots into an OS that allows you to just surf the net
[02:13] <evon> ?
[02:14] <demonspork> I am having trouble adding a file:// repository for a disk of HP stuff. The actual path to the files are pool/jaunty/8.25/non-free, but when I set up the repository with /path/ jaunty non-free, it skips the 8.25 directory that everything is nested in
[02:14] <soadfreak15> any help would be appreciated
[02:14] <demonspork> I know it is for an old version, but I still need to use the things in it
[02:14] <Datz> Hi, I just tried to get some updates from the update manager, and it says that some software cannot be authenticated.
[02:14] <soadfreak15> anyone?
[02:15] <Datz> linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic
[02:15] <dugger5688> evon: yes, but afaik you can't do it yourself. ASUS makes/made some boards with simple web browsers based on linux
[02:15] <IdleOne> Datz: did you edit sources.list by hand and add a PPA?
[02:15] <Datz> is one of the "software packages" that cannot be authenticated/
[02:16] <Datz> IdleOne: I don't believe so.
[02:16] <Dragon64> xiong, did you check the file .gconfd called saved state?
[02:16] <IdleOne> Datz: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please
[02:16] <Datz> sure
[02:16]  * xiong looks
[02:17] <Dragon64> should be /home/xiong/.gconfd/saved_state
[02:17] <coolness> why r u guys using ubuntu? xd
[02:17] <teage> i will try linux image 2.6.33 and if that dont work its back to karmic
[02:17] <soadfreak15> i put ubuntu 10.04.1 on a usb and boot it and select run it from the usb and it starts up and i get the ubuntu logo but then the screen goes blank then the whole screen is white then red then green then blue etc then it starts again and goes nowhere
[02:17] <Ryen> !ot | coolness
[02:17] <Datz> IdleOne: it would be one thing if it were some Random package that couldn't be authenticated, but it's the linux kernel image., never the less I'll pastebin. ;)
[02:17] <Soraya> Guys Where can i get maps for a gps app ?
[02:18] <evon> dugger5688: so i'm guess i'm stuck with trying to add browserlinux to grub2
[02:18] <soadfreak15> ???
[02:18] <evon> dugger5688: thanks for the response
[02:18] <xiong> Well, Dragon64, I'm looking at it. It seems to contain a lot of ascii-hex. Not particularly informative?
[02:18] <Gnea> coolness: because it works.
[02:18] <IdleOne> Datz: I am just wondering what the source of the package is, if it is a PPA you may just need to add the key
[02:18] <Dragon64> well i see mention of many apps and their screen assignments
[02:19] <teage> Datz, i am reading that many problems with lucid can be solved by upgrading to kernel 2.33, may be something you might look into
[02:19] <IdleOne> no need for that
[02:19] <IdleOne> least I don't think so in this case
[02:20] <Dragon64> wait i think i found it one sec
[02:20] <lilpod> install issue with zoneminder and dpkg, how do I rectify this http://pastebin.com/EcS4XnDP please ignore autokey-gtk entries
[02:20] <ubuntu> Hi
[02:20] <Datz> teage, IdleOne. I may just continue with the upgrade.
[02:20] <teage> correction! Datz, 2.6.33
[02:20] <ubuntu> Hi im newbie to ubuntu
[02:20] <xiong> Guys, let's try to get rid of me a bit faster. Whatever issues I ran into with the default session manager, I don't think I like. Can I use another tool?
[02:20] <msavoury> hi ubuntu
[02:20] <ubuntu> how to reinstall grub after i load xp?
[02:20] <IdleOne> Datz: I don't think it will hurt anything.
[02:21] <soadfreak15> i cant get ubuntu to run
[02:21] <IdleOne> ubuntu: what version of ubuntu?
[02:21] <Gnea> !grub | ubuntu
[02:21] <Datz> IdleOne: yea, I didn't think so, but was just curious, thanks
[02:22] <lilpod> iS theRe a uBUNTU help guide for zoneminder?
[02:22] <oak2278> Just installed 10.4 UNR. My panel randomly disappears and i have to logout/in to get it back.. doesnt seem to be hidden as a mouseover still shows options and i can click where things should be
[02:23] <st__> oak2278, turn off composition
[02:23] <xiong> That is, unless I'm mistaken, Ubuntu uses xsm by default. Can I change this?
[02:23] <soadfreak15> screen flashes different colors when trying to run ubuntu from usb doesnt do anything after that...any help?
[02:23] <oak2278> not familiar is that an irc request or related to my issue
[02:23] <Dragon64> yeah nope
[02:24] <Dragon64> soadfreak15 -- which version of ubuntu? latest 10.4
[02:24] <soadfreak15> yeah
[02:24] <Dragon64> what kind of video card you have?
[02:25] <soadfreak15> xgi volari xp5 on a dell inspiron 5160 laptop
[02:25] <Dragon64> this should be an easy one, as soon as the boot menu comes up hit the escape key and exit to the command line
[02:26] <Dragon64> from there type live xforcevesa
[02:26] <Dragon64> and hit enter
[02:26] <Dragon64> should put you in safe video mode basically
[02:26] <Blasian> how to hack computer
[02:26] <Dragon64> from there you can do what you want
[02:26] <soadfreak15> ok ill try it
[02:26] <soadfreak15> thanks
[02:26] <Dragon64> np
[02:26] <cjae> if a create an lvm with a disk that that info on it even though I used the same filesystem that stuff is gone now right
[02:26] <soadfreak15> if it doesnt work ill come back on here
[02:26] <IdleOne> Blasian: we don't do that. Please ask somewhere else
[02:26] <Dragon64> ok
[02:27] <msavoury> you hack computers by replying to all spam and giving them all/any information they ask for
[02:30] <Datz> msavoury: I think you mean computers hack you :p
[02:31] <Datz> Linux ubuserv 2.6.32-25-server #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 21:13:39 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:32] <Datz> seems I'd have to upgrade to 10.10 to get kernel 2.6.33 without manual installation...
[02:32] <Datz> ubottu echo hi
[02:32] <donvito2> http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png
[02:32] <st__> why would you want experimental kernel ons erver in 1st place?
[02:32] <donvito2> how can i make my icons down there just like in the picture below please http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png
[02:32] <Datz> I wouldn't
[02:33] <Datz> st__: anyway, latest stable is later than that one.
[02:33] <paulo> #linux
[02:33] <swex> hey
[02:33] <donvito2> how can i make my icons down there just like in the picture below please http://www.jirp.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/screenshot.png
[02:34] <swex> anyone can help me
[02:34] <msavoury> ask your question
[02:34] <st__> lol why people like make screenshots with conky showing various rubbish?
[02:34] <swex> usb mouse and keyboadr dies when I booting my pc,
[02:34] <swex> then when I unplug-plug they are starts to work
[02:34] <swex> wtf?
[02:34] <Dragon64> swex try turning on legacy usb in the bios
[02:35] <paulo> #ubuntu brasil
[02:35] <Dragon64> some mobos have it some dont
[02:35] <Datz> !pt | paulo
[02:35] <IdleOne> paulo: /join #ubuntu-br
[02:35] <swex> I've cached this bug dnt know how
[02:35] <Queef> I am trying to mount my external cd/dvd-rw and i cant locate it in /etc/fstab, can anyone help http://paste.ubuntu.com/504258/
[02:36] <swex> Dragon64, thx
[02:36] <Datz> Queef: find it in /dev
[02:36] <Datz> Queef: then either mount it from there, or make an entry for it in fstab
[02:37] <Queef> Datz : thank you
[02:37] <Dragon64> Queef, yes, /dev or if you see more than one device scan through dmesg for the messages generated when it was found, should tell you what it is
[02:37] <f00bar80> i'm on ubuntu 10.04 , i'm asking how to disable system standby/hibernate from command line for gnome,
[02:37] <st__> !pm | donvito2
[02:39] <PrimeRad> I just wanted to let everyone know I did some legwork and determined after a lot of site searches that perhaps gtalk (google talk) does not have chat rooms.
[02:39] <Queef> Dragon64 : it says ufw block
[02:39] <st__> so?
[02:39] <Dragon64> does it give a device id somewhere near that at all?
[02:39] <PrimeRad> I just that if might be informative.
[02:40] <f00bar80> any comment ?!!
[02:40] <Dragon64> like /dev/scd0?
[02:40] <PrimeRad> I feel bad now.
[02:41] <almoxarife> when restoring the desktop involving installing pckgs how do I insure I install every package previously there, is there a catch all apt-get install command line that would include everything, and I understand that all the ppa's/sources would have to be avail??
[02:43] <ruser> IS there a guide to using network-manager
[02:43] <Dragon64> apt get has a cpmmand to generate a list of installed packages I think for just that sort of thing
[02:43] <Ashok> heyyyyyyyy
[02:43] <Ashok> whats up buddies
[02:43] <ruser> IS there a guide to using network-manager
[02:43] <lilpod> !zoneminder | lilpod
[02:43] <ruser> someone said dpkg had it
[02:43] <mark2010> JOIN ubuntu1
[02:43] <ruser> How do I get network-manager to recognize my DSL modem?
[02:43] <ruser> NETWORK MANAGER
[02:44] <ruser> people
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !dsl
[02:44] <ruser> IT worked before, now it's not recognizing it
[02:44] <Datz> IdleOne: I think the problem may have come from installing vmware tools
[02:44] <mark2010> join ubuntu1
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> mark2010:  you mean '/join #ubuntu+1'  ?
[02:45] <ruser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:45] <ruser> So
[02:45] <coz_> :)
[02:45] <mark2010> yes
[02:45] <ruser> What's a good way to test out why it's not working?
[02:45] <ruser> I even tried modprobe 8139too
[02:45] <Ashok> cooool
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> 8139too is a network card module. Those things should be gettting loaded automatically for the most part.
[02:46] <ruser> it did after I typed that
[02:46] <ruser> I guess I could format my drive and reinstall linux
[02:46] <ruser> that always works
[02:47] <st__> ruser, just compile it in
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> I think ruseris a little confused....
[02:48] <msakms> greetings all, so did anyone experience the slow transfer speed to external drives??
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> If hes saying he has to load a module to get DSL working.. then.. hes found the solution..  if the module is not autoloading at bootup.. set it to autoload by hand.
[02:48] <st__> why theres no separate smp/up kernels in ubuntu?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> msakms:  ive seen slow speeds to USB Flash drives.. but external USB hard drives worked fine..
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> st__:  i recall the last release (or 2 releases ago) they trimmed down the # of kernels.  Never paied much attention to smp or other kernel features. I would guess its built into the defaults now.
[02:49] <msakms> my external drive has an ntfs fs and it works just perfect but i get slow write speeds on my vfat thumb drive
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> msakms:  like i said.. flash drive, slower,   USB Hard drive. fine.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> msakms:  ive not notuiced the same issue in 10.10
[02:50] <st__> msakms, i believe there are multiple bugs for it, but noone gave enough details to investigate them
[02:51] <Dragon64> hey guys, what is everyones favorite media manager for Ubuntu? Songbird, rythom box? Anything better?
[02:51] <st__> banshee the best for me
[02:51] <msakms> ok but why when i mount it manually with the async option, the speed gets boosted again
[02:51] <msakms> how can i set the async option as default
[02:51] <Dragon64> ok kool
[02:51] <f00bar80> may anybody tell me how to disable hibernate and standby , i've tried /apps/gnome-power-manager/lock general and disabled all things there and still i get screen locked , please may anybody answer me or let me know if if i'm in the wrong #, in gnome they've said settings should go into affect immediately;
[02:51] <msavoury> dragon64: rhythm box does it for me
[02:52] <st__> msakms, sudo mount -o remount,nosync XXX
[02:52] <Dragon64> what about mp3 player sync, does it do that?
[02:52] <st__> didn't pay attention to that
[02:52] <Dragon64> ok
[02:53] <chaterzzzz> any way to install all the things in synaptics ?
[02:53] <Dragon64> wow you are ambitious!
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> chaterzzzz:  clarify..   and  you dont want to install 'EVERYTHING' thats in the repositories..
[02:53] <st__> chaterzzzz, no since some of them are conflicting with each other
[02:54] <msakms> thnx <ST> i'll give it a shot and see wht happens
[02:54] <chaterzzzz> most of them, I wanna
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> chaterzzzz:  I find that doubtfull also... what are you wanting to install exactly?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> chaterzzzz:  apt-get install  can take 'wildcards' :)
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install *-desktop *-restricted-extras
[02:55] <st__> bah seasonal aggravation I presume
[02:56] <msavoury> i wonder how much disk space that would take
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Testing now.. flash drive does seem speedier in 10.10 - that nosync may be the default now.
[02:56] <chaterzzzz> Dr_Willis,  irregular expression
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> irregular ? eat more fiber.
[02:57] <msavoury> fiber one bars? mmm
[02:57] <chaterzzzz> just installing all restricted extras
[02:57] <nogo> no mandarin please
[02:57] <Queef> Dragon64: after trying to mount it, i got a result saying cannot read superblock
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Tab completion also works for apt-get.
[02:58] <saml> hey, do you automatically update from multiverse, restricted, and universe?
[02:58] <saml> or main only?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> saml:  any added repos are automatically 'updated' from.
[02:58] <Dragon64> what did you put in for mount options?
[02:58] <st__> saml, from every active repo
[02:59] <saml> from Update Manager setting, what should I check?
[02:59] <Queef> Dragon64 : i did mkdir /dev/external, then sudo mount -t
[02:59] <Dragon64> whats in the fstab?
[02:59] <Queef> i pastebin'd it
[02:59] <Dragon64> you must have added a line for the cdrom
[02:59] <Dragon64> o ok
[02:59] <Guest24148> Hello
[03:00] <Dragon64> that one, you will need to add a line for the cd in fstab
[03:00] <swex> hey
[03:00] <Guest24148> How do I change my ethernet connection from a self-assigned address to an automatically assigned address
[03:00] <chaterzzzz> not enough info in repo , bad names
[03:00] <Guest24148> using network-manager
[03:00] <swex> Dragon64, looks like I found why i loosing usb mouse and keyboard while system boots
[03:00] <Queef> http://paste.ubuntu.com/504263/
[03:01] <lynx__> How do I change my ethernet connection from a self-assigned address to an automatically assigned address, using network-manager
[03:01] <Dragon64> Queef, there is no line for cd rom there, need to add one
[03:01] <st__> lynx__, dhclient
[03:01] <swex> somebody plz help
[03:01] <Dragon64> whats that swex
[03:01] <swex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/504265/
[03:01] <lynx__> what do I do, type dhclient?
[03:01] <swex> usbcore: deregistering interface driver usbhid
[03:02] <swex> this message in log
[03:02] <swex> why?
[03:02] <Queef> Dragon64: how so
[03:02] <Queef> i know with gedit, but what do i add
[03:02] <lynx__> what do I do
[03:03] <Dragon64> one sec
[03:03] <st__> sudo dhclient I believe
[03:03] <lynx__> maybe it's my DSL modem that is the problem
[03:03] <Dragon64> Queef something like this
[03:03] <lynx__> but I doubt it, it works
[03:03] <Dragon64> /dev/hdb /media/cdrom iso9660 defaults 0 0
[03:03] <lynx__> but I doubt it, it works on another computer
[03:04] <Dragon64> btw i didnt see your cdrom in the screenshot
[03:04] <Dragon64> no clue swex
[03:04] <Dragon64> that is annoying isnt it?
[03:04] <tejas> hello everyone, does anyone have any exsperience with getting the realtek drivers to work
[03:04] <st__> in network manager just change type to dhjcp
[03:04] <swex> Dragon64, yep
[03:04] <lynx__> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[03:04] <lynx__> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[03:05] <swex> I just have to replug both devices after boot to get them to wok
[03:05] <swex> work
[03:05] <st__> lynx__, so there's no dhcp servers in your network
[03:05] <lynx__> I guess now
[03:05] <lynx__> I guess not
[03:05] <lynx__> network-manager worked just fine before
[03:05] <lynx__> There's no man page for it
[03:06] <Queef> Dragon64 : ok, i added that line
[03:06] <Dragon64> did you edit in the correct device and all
[03:06] <lynx__> not really
[03:06] <lynx__> because I don't know where I should
[03:06] <lynx__> I guess I could do lsof
[03:06] <lynx__> and find out what config file it reads from
[03:07] <nogo> ?
[03:07] <swex> anybody pls: do u have this line in your /var/syslog
[03:07] <swex> ?
[03:07] <swex> usbcore: deregistering interface driver usbhid
[03:07] <icarus-c> lynx__, /etc/NetworkManager  maybe
[03:08] <icarus-c> lynx__, between, have you check the log
[03:08] <nogo> lynx__: look into your /var/lib/dhcp3
[03:08] <lynx__> so
[03:08] <nogo> lynx__: so you can read the log
[03:09] <nogo> lynx__: the log of dhclient
[03:09]  * icarus-c meant to say the log of networkmanager... but never mind
[03:09] <Takeasy> ubuntu can't recognize my display card
[03:10] <Takeasy> how can i re-install my ubuntu
[03:10] <Takeasy> ?
[03:10] <nogo> what card?
[03:10] <lynx__> dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name
[03:10] <lynx__> ls: cannot access /com/: No such file or directory
[03:10] <lynx__> network manager doesn't hav e a log
[03:10] <Takeasy> is there any way to bypass the display checking?"
[03:10] <lynx__> it just has this
[03:10] <FloodBot3> lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <icarus-c> Takeasy, first of all, reinstalling typically isn't the (easy) way  to fix something
[03:10] <lynx__> total 12
[03:10] <lynx__> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-06-13 16:11 .
[03:10] <lynx__> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2010-06-13 16:00 ..
[03:10] <lynx__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  874 2009-01-14 03:42 01ifupdown
[03:10] <FloodBot3> lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <lynx__> ok
[03:10] <Takeasy> icarus-c: yes,i know
[03:11] <icarus-c> Takeasy, what video card(s) you got?
[03:11] <Takeasy> my computer installed windows and xubuntu
[03:11] <Takeasy> hold on
[03:11] <Wakko10Warner> Check out: http://tieve.tk/ : we could use some more soldiers ... to fight against the DMCA ...
[03:11] <nogo> lynx__: are you using ubuntu....
[03:11] <icarus-c> Takeasy, you may get the information by  command "lspci"
[03:11] <nogo> sudo lspci -vvv
[03:12] <icarus-c> that gives way more than enough info
[03:12] <nogo> i don't need it
[03:12] <nogo> i use the gui app to read all details
[03:12] <nogo> just one click
[03:13] <icarus-c> Takeasy, lspci | grep VGA
[03:13] <Takeasy> ?
[03:13] <icarus-c> nogo, want to compare the time it takes to run  "lspci | grep VGA" with  the gui one  :P
[03:13] <Takeasy> i'm using an IBM X40 notebook
[03:13] <nogo> Takeasy: you are lucky if you are using a ati card
[03:13] <icarus-c> Takeasy, enter the above command  in a terminal
[03:13] <icarus-c> !terminal | Takeasy
[03:13]  * nogo runs
[03:14] <Takeasy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[03:14] <nogo> Takeasy: your thinkpad has a dedicated site maintained by pandas
[03:15] <RJ_F1> are you sure its not monkeys?
[03:15] <icarus-c> Takeasy, what makes you think that ubuntu doesn't detect your card?
[03:15] <nogo> no, pandas
[03:15] <nogo> pandas stole your skills then put it onto their site
[03:15] <Rotham> ugh
[03:15] <RJ_F1> oh, ok. just checking
[03:15] <Rotham> hey
[03:15] <Takeasy> when i insert the ubuntu installation disc, it goes black screen
[03:15] <nogo> ha ha
[03:16] <Rotham> will RAR files work alright if i specify 500mb parts?
[03:16] <Rotham> im trying to break up an 18gb file
[03:16] <Dragon64> take easy one sec
[03:16] <Rotham> I did 25mb parts first and it was taking forever :/
[03:16] <nogo> what file can be 18gb in size?
[03:16] <Takeasy> i can't get through the display card checking
[03:16] <Rotham> a vdi file
[03:16] <Rotham> lol
[03:16] <Rotham> virtual disk :P
[03:17] <nogo> crap
[03:17] <Dragon64> this should be an easy one, as soon as the boot menu comes up hit the escape key and exit to the command line
 from there type live xforcevesa
 and hit enter
[03:17] <st__> Rotham, it should
[03:17] <Rotham> ok cool
[03:17] <Soraya> hi guys
[03:17] <Dragon64> thats for you takeasy
[03:17] <Rotham> thanks :)
[03:17] <Takeasy> hold on
[03:18] <Soraya> is there anything like desktop fences out there for linux
[03:18] <icarus-c> Soraya, what does it do
[03:18] <icarus-c> Soraya, group icons on desktop?
[03:18] <Takeasy> Dragon64: what in the boot menu?
[03:18] <icarus-c> Soraya, KDE does that
[03:19] <Soul_Eater> what is the name of the package for command source?
[03:19] <Dragon64> you need to exit from the boot menu and get to the command line
[03:19] <Soraya> icarus-c, Any How To
[03:19] <Dragon64> so hit the escape key
[03:19] <Dragon64> then type
[03:19] <icarus-c> Soraya, you have to use KDE instead of GNOME
[03:19] <Takeasy> ok, Dragnslcr
[03:19] <Dragon64> live xforcevesa
[03:20] <Takeasy> ok, Dragon64
[03:20] <Takeasy> actually,my problem is that i can't hear sound in xubuntu
[03:20] <Takeasy> but i can hear sound in windows in the same notebook
[03:20] <icarus-c> Soraya, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  i suppose
[03:21] <Takeasy> that's why i'm going to reinstall xubuntu
[03:21] <nogo> Takeasy: you are lack of a driver for a inner device
[03:21] <Soraya> icarus-c, Yes is something like Kubuntu
[03:21] <Soraya> ok thanks
[03:21] <nogo> Takeasy: is the sound chip a ac97 codec?
[03:22] <Takeasy> nogo: how to confirm it?
[03:22] <nogo> Takeasy: my new toy uses new intel hda so there is no such issues
[03:22] <Takeasy> i think it is
[03:22] <icarus-c> Soraya, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[03:22] <icarus-c> Soraya, personally i don't even use desktop shortcut/icon :P
[03:22] <Takeasy> AC97
[03:22] <nogo> Takeasy: i think so
[03:22] <Takeasy> how to solve it?
[03:23] <nogo> Takeasy: modprobe the correct driver
[03:23] <Takeasy> if i can solve the sound problem , it's good to not re-install :D
[03:23] <Soraya> icarus-c, is a very personal PC,i like shortcuts for fast working around the clock
[03:23] <nogo> Takeasy: it's the problem of the smbus
[03:24] <nogo> Takeasy: check out your smbus and i2c
[03:24] <Takeasy> how to check?
[03:24] <nogo> ...
[03:24] <rypervenche> Is anyone available to help me with something?
[03:24] <Takeasy> sorry i'm new to this
[03:24] <nogo> Takeasy: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
[03:24] <nogo> Takeasy: pandas will teach you
[03:25] <Injection33> rypervenche, what's gonig on?
[03:25]  * nogo kicks all thinkpad users to pandas site
[03:27] <icarus-c> Soraya, i got keyboard shortcuts for all commonly used app. and a file browser sitting on workspace 4 all the time :P
[03:27] <rypervenche> Injection33, I put Final Fantasy 7 on my Ubuntu Lepid and it works just fine with Wine. However I wanted to change it to the Chinese version and I know how to do that, but by replacing the ff7.exe it changes the settings. I basically need to know how to open up exe files. Does anyone know how I can do that? It's not a self-extracting zip file so I can't do it with unzip.
[03:28] <xbonesx> looking for a good xml file editor, any recommendations?
[03:28] <soreau> xbonesx: gedit?
[03:28] <soreau> ! IDE
[03:28] <Soraya> icarus-c, u most be a pro on this computers,,,im so new i steel smell line babypowder
[03:28] <Injection33> rypervenche, what do you mean open exe?
[03:29] <xbonesx> soreau: gedit doesnt compile the file nicely, i want somthing that will organize it for a nice viewing
[03:29] <xbonesx> soreau: rather than all text
[03:29] <soreau> xbonesx: I personally like geany, if not anything more than a syntax highlighting editor
[03:29] <Soraya> icarus-c, i found screenlets,im scare that KDE make my pc look like Kubuntu
[03:29] <nogo> you lost bluefish
[03:29] <xbonesx> geany ok ill check it out
[03:30] <rypervenche> Injection33, I'm not quite sure. I know people create exe files and I'd like to see what is inside it. There is something that has been changed and I need to change and edit it.
[03:30] <soreau> xbonesx: You can select the file type in geany>Document>Set Filetype>Markup Languages>XML if it does not automatically detect the file type (because your xml file is lacking proper heading)
[03:31] <xbonesx> ok
[03:31] <nogo> rypervenche: is that legal?
[03:31] <st__> rypervenche, hex editor, binary diff utility, disassembler etc
[03:31] <rypervenche> No clue.
[03:31] <nogo> rypervenche: you need a debugger
[03:31] <st__> nogo, yes, if it's singleplayer game
[03:32] <nogo> st__: for x86?
[03:32] <st__> what for x86?
[03:32] <nogo> x86 machines
[03:33] <Injection33> rypervenche, if you can't open an exe file you probably dont' have the know how to edit and recompile it
[03:33] <rypervenche> Injection33: that is correct ><
[03:33] <st__> traitors, all of you
[03:33] <nogo> Injection33: i think, he just wants to modify some static values
[03:33] <nogo> Injection33: game hacking
[03:35] <rypervenche> nogo: I need to compare the two exe files that I have and see where they differ. One works with the Chinese version on Windows just fine, but it doesn't work with my custom graphics renderer, so I need to kind of mix the two accordingly.
[03:37] <winterelf> hi there..does anybody know of a good way yo display cpu information on desktop ?
[03:37]  * nogo runs...
[03:37] <rypervenche> nogo: Basically I have the official English version exe, and then a patched Chinese version. However, to get the English version to work on Linux, I needed some customized files.
[03:38] <nogo> rypervenche: i don't want to waste my time on this
[03:38] <rypervenche> I suppose my question is a bit too ....odd.
[03:38] <rypervenche> nogo: Fair enough.
[03:38] <nogo> don't buy chinese version of games
[03:39] <rypervenche> nogo: I didn't. I am learning Mandarin and it has been a great way to help my learning.
[03:39] <nogo> that's your problem
[03:39] <nogo> we don't need mandarin so far
[03:40] <rypervenche> nogo: we?
[03:40] <nogo> in fact, i am suffering to abandon all my mandarin knowledge
[03:40] <nogo> s/to/in
[03:40] <rypervenche> nogo: ....you do that.
[03:40] <nogo> it's like poison
[03:41] <pc_> im haveing a hard time finding my atalanis plugin i upgraded my ubuntu and now i cant remember how to reinstal it its been years i reay need a hand
[03:41]  * nogo burn down all mandarin books
[03:41] <pc_> i was useing ubuntu 8 now im on ubuntu 10
[03:43] <pc_> any 1 have or have had the extra plugins for compiz
[03:43] <soreau> ! anyone | pc_
[03:44] <pc_> how do i install the compiz plugins for the atlantis fish tank cube :)
[03:44] <bazhang> !ot | nogo
[03:44] <streakingdisplay> When I boot into ubuntu (live cd, post install, kde, gnome) the display comes up as a bunch of streaked lines. I need some info on the pieces and terms involved in display to try and troubleshoot. The only way I can seem to interact with the install is through the text recovery console through the alternative install disk. (the grub boot recovery option has the same problem) Any ideas?
[03:45] <dsnyders> Hi all, my clock is wrong, and ntpdate cannot reach a valid server because the socket is in use.
[03:45] <soreau> pc_: Ask in #compiz please
[03:45] <soreau> pc_: We can help you more with that there
[03:45] <gnubuntu> Does an Ubuntu installation recognize other GNU/Linux OSs in the GRUB and not overwrite the MBR?
[03:46] <pc_> how do i find that room :(
[03:46] <IdleOne> pc_: type /join #compiz
[03:46] <bazhang> pc_, /join #compiz
[03:47] <dsnyders> !ntpdate
[03:47] <bobstro> gnubuntu:  it should find them and add them as options, yes. it will overwrite the mbr.
[03:47] <dsnyders> !ntp
[03:47] <lynx__> hekllo
[03:48] <gnubuntu> bobstro, thank you.
[03:52] <Blue1> what does this error mean (from /var/log/apcupsd.events) Connection from localhost.localdomain refused by tcp_wrappers.
[03:53] <bobstro> Blue1:  sounds like you've got a ups monitoring program set up, and it's being blocked in /etc/hosts.deny
[03:54] <bobstro> Blue1:  most likely a configuration error since it's trying to connect on the local machine
[03:55] <bobstro> hmmm... but have tcp wrappers been superceded in ubuntu? i'm not sure
[03:55] <Blue1> bobstro: okay I'll look thanks
[03:55] <Blue1> bobstro: i don't know this quit working about 5-6 weeks ago
[03:56] <bobstro> Blue1:  did you install any security software?
[03:56] <Blue1> bobstro: negative
[03:56] <Blue1> !pastebin | blue`
[03:58] <Blue1> bobstro: reality check me please - this is my hosts.deny -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/504285/
[03:58] <tristan_> you are blocking individual spammers?
[03:58] <bobstro> Blue1:  you're not behind a firewall? is this an exposed server?
[03:59] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[03:59] <Blue1> bobstro: behind a router, no
[03:59] <bobstro> Blue1:  there are likely easier ways to deal with some of those issues.
[03:59] <bobstro> Blue1:  i am rusty with precedence between hosts.allow and hosts.deny. anything in allow?
[03:59] <Blue1> bobstro: well the issue is why apsupsd suddenly comes up with the tcp_wrapper error
[04:00] <bobstro> Blue1:  understood. tcpd is stopping it from connecting locally.
[04:00] <bobstro> Blue1:  why is what we're after now.
[04:00] <dugger5688> lynx__: you should just be able to plug it in. If you're behind a router then you won't really see it at all.
[04:01] <Blue1> bobstro: hosts.allow  http://paste.ubuntu.com/504287/
[04:01] <tristan_> lynx__: whos doing the routing
[04:02] <tristan_> dear Blue1
[04:02] <tristan_> I seem to remember getting this error when I was messing around with
[04:02] <tristan_> tcp wrappers. Make sure you have something like `ALL: <IP_ADDRESS>/8' in
[04:02] <tristan_> hosts.allow (assuming you have ALL:ALL in hosts.deny!).
[04:02] <tristan_> If that doesn't help, make sure your loopback interface is up.
[04:02] <FloodBot3> tristan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:02] <tristan_> Running `ifconfig lo' will tell you.
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <Genieliu> annel #fedora-unregistered created Fri Jan 15 14:06:01 2010
[04:02] <FloodBot3> Genieliu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:03] <Genieliu> Sorry
[04:03] <Blue1> tristan_: i can hadd that
[04:03] <tristan_> google recommends it.
[04:03] <tristan_> at any rate. nooooo localhost/loopback traffic should be getting dropped
[04:03] <tristan_> it exists for a real
[04:04] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[04:04] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[04:04] <lynx__> How do I make it so that my network-manager detects my cable modem
[04:04] <FloodBot3> lynx__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <Blue1> tristan_: fixed it - many thanks.
[04:05] <gilead> hi
[04:05] <tristan_> it was the second google hit chief.
[04:05] <Ryen> gilead: Hello, can we help you?
[04:05] <gilead> I just tried to upgrade to 10.10 and the network went down during package download. Now I can't restart the process as both update-manager -d and do-release-upgrade -d say there's no new distro available -- how to reset the state so it sees 10.10 again?
[04:06] <gilead> hi Ryen!
[04:06] <bobstro> Blue1:  are you using iptables firewall as well?
[04:06] <Ryen> !10.10 | gilead
[04:06] <Blue1> bobstro: no
[04:06] <gilead> uuh, sorry :)
[04:06] <bobstro> Blue1:  reason being that tcp wrappers do not protect everything. i recommend doing a scan of your system from the outside.
[04:06] <Ryen> gilead: No worries. :)
[04:06] <Blue1> bobstro: anyway i added the line tristin suggested, and it works fine now.
[04:07] <bobstro> Blue1:  yes, apc ups daemon does. i'm saying your protection may not be what you're expecting if only using tcp wrappers.
[04:07] <bobstro> Blue1:  (this being the voice of experience)
[04:07] <tristan_> meh
[04:07] <Blue1> bobstro: what do you reccomend then?
[04:07] <tristan_> if hes behind an isr it will be fine.
[04:07] <tristan_> or some form or nat.
[04:07] <bobstro> Blue1:  step 1 - scan from outside to BE SURE.
[04:08] <bobstro> he said no
[04:08] <Blue1> tristan_: i am behind a router
[04:08] <bobstro> Blue1:  thought you said no firewall tho?
[04:08] <Blue1> bobstro: not sure how to do that...
[04:08] <tristan_> ill nmap you.
[04:08] <bobstro> Blue1:  from an external address, run an nmap scan
[04:08] <Blue1> bobstro: no software firewall ufw disable
[04:08] <tristan_> tis a bit slow. 5 mins remaining
[04:08] <tristan_> but:
[04:08] <bobstro> Blue1:  learn how to do it. it's the only way to really KNOW your security is working.
[04:08] <Blue1> bobstro: i don't have an external address all are local machines.
[04:08] <tristan_> does your ubuntu box have a private or public address added.
[04:09] <tristan_> like a 192/172/10.* or routable
[04:09] <bobstro> Blue1:  oh? you have a lot of pulic ips in that allow file.
[04:09] <bobstro> Blue1:  er.. public
[04:09] <tristan_> ten four
[04:09] <Blue1> bobstro: well I do have an external address, but all my machines are hooked up to the router.
[04:09] <tristan_> he should be protected already.
[04:09] <tristan_> at least from the big bad world outside.
[04:09] <tristan_> shit spreading in your lan is outside the scope of this.
[04:10] <tristan_> 4 mins left
[04:10] <bobstro> tristan_:  depending on what's forwarded. it looks like some stuff is.
[04:10] <bobstro> tristan_:  surely no harm in knowing for sure, and not assuming?
[04:10] <tristan_> surely not. i am scanning him.
[04:10] <hasenj> is the open source ati driver better than the proprietry one?
[04:10] <Blue1> tristan_: i have had no problems running this way in 5 years.  only people who need ssh access can have ssh access.  ftp is an anonmous ftp so, yeah i don't think I have any security issues atm (so I say now)
[04:11] <hasenj> in other words should I switch to the open source version or am i just asking for trouble?
[04:11] <tristan_> meh. it should be fine.
[04:11] <tristan_> nat == firewall in this context
[04:11] <Blue1> tristan_: correct
[04:11] <bobstro> Blue1:  ah, i mis-read your 'behind a firewall, no' above :)
[04:12] <tristan_> almost done.
[04:12] <Blue1> bobstro: this is what nmap shows  http://paste.ubuntu.com/504291/
[04:13] <gaelfx> all my panel applets move to strange places whenever I reboot, how can I make them stay put?
[04:14] <bobstro> tristan_:  sourcing scan from port 53 might be interesting
[04:14] <tristan_> all the ports i hit are closed.
[04:14] <tristan_> registered ports only, though.
[04:14] <Genieliu> gaelfx:have you fixed it yet?
[04:14] <bobstro> Blue1:  do you run the router?
[04:15] <Blue1> gaelfx: right click on icon, and then click "lock to panel"
[04:15] <Blue1> bobstro: yes
[04:15] <bobstro> Blue1:  you don't have an "any any" rule for port 53/dns (hopefully)?
[04:15] <Genieliu> gaelfx:yes lock to the panel
[04:15] <Blue1> bobstro: nope
[04:15] <tristan_> you dont need incoming 53.
[04:16] <Blue1> tristan_: i can close that, and prolly telnet, -- all incoming port 80 traffic blocked by my isp anyway.
[04:16] <tristan_> i dont see anything open.
[04:16] <bobstro> Blue1:  are you on cox in phoenix?
[04:16] <Blue1> bobstro: yuppers
[04:17] <Blue1> bobstro: only in Tucson, not pahonics
[04:17] <bobstro> Blue1:  i was in phoenix 13 years, much of it on cox -- @home originally
[04:17] <bobstro> Blue1:  you are lucky to get cox in TUC! my buddies can only get crappy dsl.
[04:17] <Blue1> bobstro: they don't call em cox blankers for nothing...
[04:17] <tristan_> cox blankers?
[04:17] <bobstro> Blue1:  you mind if i run a scan as well?
[04:18] <Endafy> hey I have used a lot of distros, I really like Ubuntu. How come flash doesn't seem to work as well on Ubuntu 10.04.1?
[04:18] <Blue1> bobstro: no go ahead --
[04:18] <Endafy> like it works beautifully on other distros
[04:18] <nogo> ?
[04:18] <Endafy> but it skips and my audio skips as well
[04:19] <nogo> my usbkey ubuntu is fine everyday
[04:19] <nogo> no disk i/o at all
[04:19] <coz_> Endafy,  64 bit or 32 bit?
[04:20] <Blue1> nogo: I have a "ubuntu 2 go" usb drive as well
[04:20] <Endafy> I may try debian and see if things work better with debian, but I would really like for things to quit being so skippy and glitchy
[04:20] <coz_> Endafy,  debian and flash  I dont think so
[04:20] <Endafy> coz_: either or I dualboot them both
[04:20] <nogo> Blue1: but your i/o is too much and it will be dead soon
[04:20] <gaelfx> Genieliu: locking the applets to the panel does nothing, they still move and then they are locked in the wrong position once the machine starts up again
[04:21] <Blue1> nogo: naw, I use ext2 (no journaling) and changed it to realatime - works fine
[04:21] <Endafy> coz_: right now I am on an RPM based distro and im not liking how things are messed up in other areas, but I am unsure what is even wrong to begin with
[04:21] <nogo> Blue1: realtime my ...
[04:21] <Endafy> to cause it to be so glitchy on Ubuntu
[04:21] <Blue1> nogo: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[04:21] <bobstro> Blue1:  i see ftp, ssh & auth. ssh is covered by your wrappers. good.
[04:21] <Blue1> yup
[04:21] <Blue1> bobstro: I tried to do the best job I know..
[04:21] <bazhang> nogo, please stay on topic
[04:22] <coz_> Endafy,  debian and flash are not going to be easy... debian - anal gpl   so I wouldnt go that route personally
[04:22] <bobstro> Blue1:  always good to KNOW. i mis-understood your response about the router, thought you were running directly exposed with no firewall.
[04:22] <Endafy> coz_ I use the Nvidia drivers, it is a gtx 260, all my hardware is up to par, 3 gig ram dual core AMD 5000+
[04:23] <bobstro> Blue1:  i've seen guys add "any any" rule allowing dns, which will bite ya.
[04:23] <TiK> coz: flash "quare" is pretty tight
[04:23] <Blue1> coz_: hey d00d.  I finally got that problem solved with the nvidia card we were working on - use a vanilla xorg.conf file.  legacy nvidia cards aren't currently supported in 10.10
[04:23] <coz_> Blue1,  understood
[04:23] <Blue1> bobstro: i don't think I did that...
[04:23] <tristan_> ive started using mplayer in place of flash.
[04:23] <bobstro> Blue1:  no, you look good. i just like to be a bit paranoid.
[04:24] <Endafy> it seems even when running MP3s and OGGs the audio skips around and it is so bothersome I cannot listen to it, I can't watch movies either for that matter, AMD with Nvidia chipset
[04:24] <bobstro> Blue1:  you've poked at ssh to test, right?
[04:24] <Blue1> bobstro: I'd be way more worried if I were running m$
[04:24] <Blue1> bobstro: yup --
[04:24] <tristan_> hm.
[04:24] <bobstro> Blue1:  true, but i always like to test if possible
[04:24] <tristan_> bobstro: howd you scan
[04:24] <Blue1> bobstro: it locks all but approved in hosts.allow out
[04:24] <tristan_> i stealth syn.
[04:24] <Endafy> I mean "sure" I could use another distro but I really like how Ubuntu does things
[04:25] <Blue1> bobstro: why I even tested at mcd to make sure I couldn't get in!  (hehe)
[04:25] <bobstro> tristan_:  i usually do -sT since stealth is so readily blocked.
[04:25] <tristan_> fair
[04:25] <tristan_> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN.
[04:25] <bobstro> tristan_:  plus it sets off alarm bells (though a scan usually does anyhow)
[04:25] <tristan_> i tried that first:p
[04:25] <bobstro> tristan_:  i didn't get that!
[04:25] <tristan_> and PN returns zilch. no auth or ssh
[04:26] <nkdoodwal> my visual effects are not working
[04:26] <bobstro> tristan_:  interesting. i did use --source-port 53.
[04:26] <tejas> can anyone tell me how to fix a permission error when doing "make install"
[04:26] <Blue1> tejas: sudo make install
[04:26] <tristan_> ah. i follow.
[04:26] <gaelfx> how can I get my panel applets to stay put after reboot? locking them to panel is remarkably ineffective
[04:26] <tejas> wow i feel dumb now lol
[04:26] <Genieliu> gaelfx:try right click the icon and choose to move to the initial location and restar again
[04:27] <bobstro> tejas:  you often need to do install as root
[04:27] <Blue1> gaelfx: i answered that eons ago must have missed it -- right click on icon, then click on "lock to panel"
[04:27] <bobstro> wups- answered already.
[04:27] <gaelfx> Genieliu: I did move them initially, but problem still persists
[04:27] <gaelfx> Blue1: problem still persists....
[04:28] <Blue1> gaelfx: you are running gnome, and 10.04?
[04:29] <gaelfx> Blue1: yes
[04:29] <pksadiq> may I ask Open Office related question here?
[04:29] <Blue1> gaelfx: maybe x is setup weird?  can you do:  grep -i glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:29] <nkdoodwal> help..... my visual effects are not working
[04:30] <Blue1> gaelfx: and pastebin the output?
[04:30] <bazhang> pksadiq, #openoffice.org
[04:30] <pksadiq> k
[04:31] <gaelfx> Blue1: yeah, but it's gonna have to wait a couple minutes, I'm IRCing on a different machine
[04:31] <Blue1> gaelfx: k
[04:32] <pksadiq> bu #openoffice.org members are inactive :(
[04:33] <MooshiMuushi> Anyone here who uses a PS3 and media servers with Ubuntu?
[04:34] <nogo> ps3 is not ubuntu
[04:34] <pksadiq> but #openoffice.org members are inactive :(
[04:34] <MooshiMuushi> nogo, Haha, I know.
[04:34] <pksadiq> nogo :)
[04:34] <nogo> ooo is not ubuntu too
[04:34] <nkdoodwal> help..... my visual effects are not working
[04:34] <MooshiMuushi> nogo, I was asking if anyone here media servers to the PS3 using Ubuntu.
[04:35] <nogo> that's ps3's problem
[04:35] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  visual effects as in  compiz?
[04:35] <tejas> can someone please tell me what this means? configure: error: required curses helper header not found
[04:35] <coz_> tejas,  is that the entire readout of the error?
[04:36] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal press ALT + F2 and type compiz --replace and hit enter
[04:36] <nkdoodwal> coz_: i uninstalled compiz
[04:36] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  ok  so which "effects"  do you mean?
[04:37] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Can you reply to coz_'s question?
[04:37] <pksadiq> sudo apt-get install compiz
[04:37] <nogo> coz_: he mean the effects which needs 3d hardware
[04:37] <tejas> im working on it mooshi
[04:37] <gaelfx> apologies for o-t, but why the heck does pastebin have to have twitter crap on their homepage?
[04:38] <soreau> ! ot | gaelfx
[04:38] <IdleOne> gaelfx: the question being ot means the answer would be also. ask pastebin
[04:38] <tejas> no its not but do you really want me copy and paste the whole thing
[04:38] <nkdoodwal> coz_: when right key of mouse press then in menu list visual effects
[04:38] <MooshiMuushi> If it's long, use pastebin.
[04:38] <MooshiMuushi> brb
[04:39] <xiong> When GNOME opens a window, it positions it in a certain way. It's not random; it seems to want to use up as much of the screen as it can. What controls this?
[04:39] <gaelfx> Blue1: http://pastebin.com/fYAtv3Tn
[04:39] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  what is your native language?
[04:39] <Prometheus> howdy, is there a place where I could find a sources.list for 10.04 server?
[04:39] <nkdoodwal> hindi
[04:39] <Blue1> gaelfx: omw
[04:39] <Prometheus> for some reason I am not able to do build-dep nginx due to sources
[04:39] <gaelfx> thanks, apologies for the delay
[04:40] <xiong> Also, is there a command-line interface to the virtual desktops, so that windows can be moved from one to another from a terminal?
[04:40] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal I'm from india
[04:40] <coz_> nkdoodwal,    मुझे यकीन है कि आप क्या सही क्लिक के साथ प्रभाव मतलब नहीं हूँ
[04:40] <tejas> coz_: its in paste bin
[04:40] <coz_> tejas,  i didnt see the pastebin link can you post it again please?
[04:40] <Blue1> gaelfx: this looks funny:  (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  260.19.06  Mon Sep 13 04:54:41 PDT 2010
[04:41] <nkdoodwal> yeah right click
[04:41] <gaelfx> funny haha or funny....?
[04:41] <nogo> pksadiq: are there many spies in your country?
[04:41] <coz_> Blue1,  what looks funny
[04:41] <tejas> http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA98
[04:41] <coz_> nkdoodwal,  सही डेस्कटॉप पर क्लिक करें?
[04:41] <Blue1> coz_: module 260?
[04:41] <nkdoodwal> but i can't understand that typical hindi
[04:41] <gaelfx> Blue1: yeah, I installed the latest driver from NVidia via PPA
[04:42] <coz_> Blue1,  that sounds like the driver version
[04:42] <coz_> tejas,  what are you compiling?
[04:42] <gaelfx> Blue1: perhaps not the brightest idea I've ever had, but it is the number of the driver version
[04:42] <Blue1> coz_: yes but I get:  (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  195.36.24  Thu Apr 22 19:52:00 PDT 2010
[04:42] <tejas> its the utilities for my sound card drivers
[04:42] <Blue1> coz_: so where did version 260 come from?
[04:42] <coz_> Blue1,   o0  from same command?
[04:43] <Blue1> coz_: yup
[04:43] <coz_> Blue1,   did you use a ppa ?
[04:43] <gaelfx> coz_: I used PPA
[04:43] <Blue1> coz_: no just standard repos
[04:43] <Blue1> gaelfx: ahh no wonder that looks funny...
[04:43] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, For me, it looks like you're missing some files.
[04:44] <coz_> Blue1,  then that is wrong  let me check my installed driver hold on
[04:44] <gaelfx> Blue1: ;) I've also been trying to get HDMI audio to work
[04:44] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, when you were compiling.
[04:44] <Blue1> coz_: thanks
[04:44] <coz_> Blue1,  the default nvidia-currnet in ubuntu lucid via jockey is 195.36.24
[04:44] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, "panel.h usability... no"
[04:44] <Chaos2358> can someone tell me how to disable the feature in ubuntu 10.04 where it remembers everything typed in a search bar? its annoying
[04:44] <coz_> Blue1,  where the  260 came from would only be if you tried to install the driver manually or used the ppa
[04:45] <pksadiq> Chaos2358 firefox?
[04:45] <coz_> tejas,  ah ok
[04:45] <gaelfx> the ironic thing is, I think my HDMI audio would work if the audio weren't built-in to the graphics card I have, i.e. if there were an SPDIF pass-through, I wouldn't be having any problems with it
[04:45] <Blue1> coz_: ahh makes sense, I got what ever came down the pike from standard repos
[04:45] <Kheops> hi
[04:45] <xangua> Chaos2358: what searchbar are you exactly talking about¿ the browser¿ set it in the browser preferences
[04:45] <Chaos2358> pksadiq not just in firefox the laptop in general
[04:46] <tejas> mooshimusshi: i have no idea what im doing really there really where no good instructions I could find to do this I just unpaked everything that was downloaded and installed everything this is the only thing that wont
[04:46] <coz_> tejas,   i would go over to both the #alsa channel and the #pulsaudio channel and ask there
[04:46] <wrekt> where are the sound settings on 10.04? are they only in system>prefs>sound? bec in my 8.10 there were many more options. im unable to get my new webcams mic working
[04:46] <Chaos2358> xangua its not just a browser its the whole pc like it remembers stuff i typed in the music folder when searching in the picture folder too
[04:46] <Kheops> I want to resize a partition and I have some data on It, It's safe to do the resizing process ?
[04:46] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, I'm guessing it asked you to do the "./configure" commands, right?
[04:47] <tejas> mooshimusshi: yes
[04:47] <Blue1> Kheops: yes, but I'd backup first.  always have a path back to the way it was, before you mess it up.
[04:47] <coz_> Blue1,  when you open   nvidia-settings    which driver is actually in use?
[04:47] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Have you downloaded the build essential?
[04:47] <Kheops> Blue1: I can't back up 1000 GB :)
[04:47] <coz_> a terabyte?
[04:48] <Kheops> mhm
[04:48] <tejas> mooshimusshi: no clue
[04:48] <gaelfx> tejas: I'm not sure if this is what you're trying to do, but did you try installing the alsa backports module? it will get you the latest alsa, if that's what you're after
[04:48] <Chaos2358> any ideas?
[04:48] <Blue1> Kheops: then do so at your own risk
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, copy and paste this into the terminal. "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:48] <Blue1> coz_: 195.36.24
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, without the quotes.
[04:48] <Kheops> Blue1: how I must resizing ?
[04:48] <tejas> mooshimusshi: third day trying to use linux
[04:48] <Kheops> Blue1: To keep the data safe..
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, I see.
[04:48] <coz_> Blue1,  ok  that is right....what was the origianl issue you posted?
[04:48] <Blue1> Kheops: you can use a livecd an gparted - but I'd backup the data first, but then that's me.
[04:48] <coz_> original even
[04:48] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, It takes time to get use to Ubuntu ;)
[04:49] <Blue1> coz_: you asked for version number for nvidia
[04:49] <Ageless_Stranger> will ubuntu be able to connect to the internet through a windows computer with ics on?
[04:49] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Anyway, download the build essential.
[04:49] <Kheops> Blue1: I know that..
[04:49] <nkdoodwal> help, on every startup my computer tells that your windows manager not working and my title bar and workspace removed
[04:49] <bullgard4> In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?
[04:49] <Kheops> Blue1: But..I asked you what is the size..that he will let me resize
[04:49] <coz_> Blue1,  ah sorry ... I think I am on way too many channels doing support  :)
[04:49] <Kheops> Blue1: All and only free memory ?
[04:49] <Blue1> Kheops: what ever you want --
[04:50] <tejas> mooshimuushi: I must have for something says 0 newly installed o upgraded
[04:50] <Kheops> Blue1: I want to take the free memory and make a new partition.
[04:50] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, hmm.
[04:50] <trism> tejas: panel.h is in libncurses5-dev
[04:50] <pksadiq> tejas also do apt-get install ncurses-dev to do make
[04:50] <Blue1> Kheops: livecd and gparted will let you resize a partition
[04:50] <Kheops> Blue1: I already know that..
[04:51] <Blue1> Kheops: sorry I am not understanding your question then.
[04:51] <nkdoodwal> help, on every startup my computer tells that your windows manager not working and my title bar and workspace removed
[04:51] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Then I guess I don't know.
[04:51] <Kheops> Blue1:I Asked you If I will resize a partition full off data..but he has a lot of free space..
[04:51] <Kheops> Blue1: how Gpartet will act ?
[04:51] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal it was insane removing the compiz
[04:52] <Chaos2358> can someone please tell me how to get my laptop to stop remembering searches? not just in the browser but if i search something in my muci folder it gives me that as a suggestion when trying to search in other folders
[04:52] <Kheops> Blue1: That's my question..
[04:52] <icarus-c> Kheops, depends on the file system
[04:52] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, go to the channels that coz_ suggested.
[04:52] <Jon--> I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.
[04:52] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, "i would go over to both the #alsa channel and the #pulsaudio channel and ask there"
[04:52] <Blue1> Kheops: it will resize the partition, and move data.  resizing is  VERY time consuming - can take hours....
[04:52] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: so now??
[04:52] <Kheops> icarus-c: ext3
[04:52] <Kheops> icarus-c: only data.
[04:52] <tejas> mooshimuushi: that last one looks like its installing something
[04:53] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal reinstall compiz
[04:53] <Kheops> Blue1: I don't want to move data.
[04:53] <lun0> after 1 to 5 mins system booted the wireless logitech keyboard and mouse hangs, to computer connected reciever.
[04:53] <Blue1> Kheops: it will move what needs moving, no way to avoid it...
[04:53] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, the last one?
[04:53] <icarus-c> Kheops, typically the underly file system resize tool would move data of the region to shrink to somewhere else
[04:53] <lun0> but system keeps working
[04:53] <Kheops> Blue1:I want to take the free space from the partition..and make a new one
[04:53] <Blue1> Kheops: asked and answered.
[04:54] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't want to move data..
[04:54] <tejas> apt-get install ncurses-dev but now I get a different error
[04:54] <icarus-c> Kheops, say you want to shrink the last 10GB,  it would move any data sitting there to somewhere else.
[04:54] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, There's is an easy way to reply. Type in "mooshi" then hit "tab".
[04:54] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, Shortcut ;)
[04:54] <Kheops> icarus-c: why he move the data, if I want to take only the free space ?!
[04:54] <Jon--> I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.
[04:55] <icarus-c> Kheops, you don't get it... say you have a 20GB ext3 file system, even if you only have 100MB used, the data actually span across the whole file system phyiscally
[04:55] <pksadiq> tejas what's the error?
[04:55] <tejas> MooshiMuushi, thanks
[04:55] <Kheops> icarus-c: pffff
[04:55] <tejas> pksadiq, ill pastebin it one sec
[04:55] <Kheops> icarus-c: and where I will find the data ?!
[04:55] <icarus-c> Kheops, that design is to avoid file fragmentation
[04:55] <icarus-c> Kheops, you don't.  the file system handle it
[04:55] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA98
[04:55] <Kheops> icarus-c: pffff but I need that data...
[04:55] <wrekt> hey does anyone know how i mite be able to get my microphone attached to logitech quckcam pro to work. the device i s listed as one that "just works" woth 10.04
[04:55] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, That was the link you gave me ;)
[04:56] <icarus-c> Kheops, the file system stuff is transparent to user
[04:56] <MooshiMuushi> pksadiq, http://pastebin.com/wwiKjA98
[04:56] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't want to move the data..I just want to take te free space from the partition and make a new one.
[04:56] <pksadiq> tejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links
[04:56] <Kheops> icarus-c: how can I do this ?
[04:56] <icarus-c> Kheops, just resize it
[04:56] <pksadiq> tejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links or links2 or lunx
[04:56] <Kheops> :)))))))))))))))))
[04:56] <pksadiq> tejas sorry I can't use pastbin because such sites are not well working on my slow connection and too on my browser links or links2 or lynx
[04:56] <icarus-c> Kheops, file system handle all the underly stuff for ya
[04:57] <Kheops> icarus-c: I want my data to be clasified..
[04:57] <MooshiMuushi> tejas, right click his name and hit "Open Dialog File"
[04:57] <bazhang> Kheops, classified?
[04:57] <icarus-c> Kheops, that "move data" thingy i mentioned is done transparently within the file system,  not moving to another disk or what.
[04:57] <Kheops> yes bazhang
[04:57] <bazhang> Kheops, explain
[04:57] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: one thing after installing ubuntu i m not able to reinstall linux/windows
[04:58] <Kheops> I don't want to spread...
[04:58] <coz_> Kheops,  you want these  password protected?
[04:58] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal can U boot windows?
[04:58] <Kheops> I want the filles remain there..and just take the free space..and do what I want to do with all this Free space.
[04:58] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: no
[04:58] <Kheops> coz_: no
[04:59] <coz_> ok
[04:59] <coz_> I am confused
[04:59] <pksadiq> MooshiMuushi it seems you did not install libncurses5-dev
[04:59] <Kheops> All I want Is to know If I will lose some data..
[04:59] <Kheops> If I will resize..
[04:59] <Kheops> to take the free space..
[04:59]  * Blue1 stands in line behind coz_
[04:59] <bullgard4> In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?
[04:59] <Kheops> Or I will be able to find the files..
[04:59] <bazhang> !enter | Kheops
[05:00] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you want to resize a file system, just do it.  if you wonder how it is done technically, read resize2fs documentation
[05:00] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal what is the error?
[05:00] <nkdoodwal> it doesnot load bootmanager , it start normally
[05:01] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal if you can't boot anything you may need to reinstall windows first and then ubuntu
[05:01] <Kheops> icarus-c: If I have a partition with 1000 GB and just 800 Used and 200 free and I will do a resize to take the 200 GB what it will happens ?
[05:01] <h4x07> Ryen: u there dude?
[05:01] <icarus-c> Kheops, actually the theory could be very simple.  say your file system allocates 5 blocks on disk  A,B,C,D,E  .  block A,B,D,E are used.  now you want to resize to 4 blocks (A,B,C,D)  so the data in Block E will be moved to block C
[05:02] <Jon--> I get a connection refused in ChatZilla on an IRC using port 6667.. I know it's not related to Ubuntu but I figure someone could give me a quick answer. Any idea why? It opens fine on a Ubuntu laptop of mine on the same network.
[05:02] <nkdoodwal> but problem is this i am not able to install anyone
[05:02] <Kheops> icarus-c: I see your point but on the block C It's not enough space.
[05:02] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: but problem is this i am not able to install anyone
[05:02] <icarus-c> Kheops, um... block size are even for the whole file system
[05:02] <tejas> pksadiq, did you look at the dialog window with the paste in it?
[05:02] <icarus-c> Kheops, like 4k
[05:03] <Kheops> I see
[05:03] <Kheops> so
 icarus-c: If I have a partition with 1000 GB and just 800 Used and 200 free and I will do a resize to take the 200 GB what it will happens ?   <--  your file system will be shrinked by about 200GB  :)
[05:03] <Kheops> :)
[05:03] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: it doesnot take boot from cd/dvd/usb
[05:03] <pksadiq> tejas also install gettext
[05:04] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal can You open BIOS?
[05:04] <Kheops> icarus-c: I see.
[05:04] <Kheops> icarus-c: and the rest of 800 GB will remain untouched ?
[05:04] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes.
[05:04] <tejas> pksadiq, really new to linux what command to do that?
[05:04] <Kheops> icarus-c: and on the same partition ?
[05:05] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: i am working on same computer so little bit later i reconnect with you
[05:06] <Kheops> ?
[05:06] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes
[05:06] <pksadiq> pksadiq do sudo apt-get install gettext
[05:06] <Kheops> icarus-c: Thanks.
[05:06] <pksadiq> tejas do sudo apt-get install gettext
[05:06] <icarus-c> Kheops, that is the whole point of resizing file system/partition after all
[05:06] <Kheops> icarus-c: And I can't resize more than I have right ?
[05:06] <icarus-c> Kheops, of course
[05:07] <Kheops> to avoid data losing
[05:07] <Kheops> perfect.
[05:07] <Kheops> :P
[05:07] <Kheops> many thanks :)
[05:07] <icarus-c> Kheops, oh but aware that resizing such a large partition takes time
[05:07] <Kheops> I'm feeling more safety :)
[05:07] <Kheops> np icarus-c
[05:07] <icarus-c> Kheops, since it is moving data around behind the scene
[05:07] <Kheops> more than a back-up I don't think so :)
[05:08] <pksadiq> tejas you may also visit https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/81561
[05:08] <icarus-c> Kheops, oh but any partitioning operation come at certain risk
[05:08] <AlbertoP> Kheops: what do you use to resize?
[05:08] <Kheops> icarus-c: It's only 800 GB to move
[05:08] <icarus-c> Kheops, it works 99% of time, but can fail due to many reason
[05:08] <icarus-c> Kheops, like power cut, faulty disk, or a comet impact
[05:08] <tukadafoonday> Hey guys, whats a good theme i should install onto into my gnome?
[05:08] <pksadiq> tejas check the bottom part of the site
[05:08] <Kheops> icarus-c: There are only Data..no file system
[05:09] <Kheops> icarus-c: data only, music, video.
[05:09] <Kheops> AlbertoP: Live CD
[05:09] <icarus-c> tukadafoonday, my personal favourite is equinox
[05:09] <AlbertoP> Kheops: well if those data are written on a disk... you have a filesystem
[05:09] <Kheops> AlbertoP: Gparted.
[05:09] <tukadafoonday> thanks icarus-c
[05:09] <icarus-c> AlbertoP, oooo no you could of course store data on disk without a file system :)
[05:09] <AlbertoP> Kheops: well backup, and be *careful*
[05:09] <tukadafoonday> I will have a look at it.
[05:09] <icarus-c> AlbertoP, that's what real hacker does :P
[05:10] <Kheops> hmm AlbertoP: yes but I mean data on music and video..are data..not data system
[05:10] <Kheops> :)
[05:10] <icarus-c> dd ftw
[05:10] <AlbertoP> icarus-c: yuck!
[05:10] <Kheops> AlbertoP: It's a force term.
[05:10] <Kheops> AlbertoP: I can lose data during this long process of resizing ? :)
[05:10] <icarus-c> AlbertoP, and you could  hexedit /dev/sda :)
[05:10] <AlbertoP> Kheops: ohhh yes you can
[05:11] <Kheops> hmmmm or I can't.
[05:11] <Kheops> right ?
[05:11] <tukadafoonday> and what is the best dock to use? I have seen cairo and avant, I personally liked Avant more than Cairo... any others i should give a look?
[05:11] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes!  beware of mother, she often tend to shut off your computer at critical time
[05:11] <AlbertoP> Kheops: it is perfectly possible :)
[05:11] <Kheops> In state of formating I will asume this risk.
[05:11] <Kheops> :)
[05:11] <AlbertoP> nope
[05:12] <Kheops> icarus-c: you're funny but you're right about power crash..
[05:12] <Kheops> :)
[05:12] <Kheops> It's not my mum, It's the Electric Power Company :)
[05:12] <bullgard4> In Rhythmbox I made a playlist for an album, but the titles appear in it in an inverted order. How can I fix that?
[05:12] <AlbertoP> Kheops: during a resize, depending on the user approach, you manipulate the structure of the filesystem, which means you might damage it, and be unable to retrieve your data
[05:12] <pksadiq> tukadafoonday it is very nice to use e17 along with ecomorph and other plugins very charming, I like the best
[05:13] <AlbertoP> so it's not only "during formatting"
[05:13] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: yeah i opened my bios
[05:13] <Kheops> AlbertoP: I understand..
[05:13] <Kheops> AlbertoP: But what can I do instate of Backup ?
[05:14] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal then did you changed first boot device?
[05:14] <AlbertoP> Kheops: nothing
[05:14] <Kheops> AlbertoP: :)
[05:14] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: it is cd/dvd
[05:14] <Kheops> AlbertoP: keep the data there till my end of my life ?
[05:15] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal still not booting?
[05:15] <nkdoodwal> yeah
[05:15] <Eighteens> question, I got a system that will boot the live cd, but i have to choose options [x] acpi=off, [x] noapic, [x] nolapic, and [x] nomodeset, then it will boot the live cd, and lets me install it, install said sucessful, but then when i reboot, i get 'try booting with noapic' and i've tried booting, holding escape, 'e' to edit the highlighted kernel, and add the options, but no luck, Can anyone help?
[05:15] <Kheops> icarus-c: How I must resize, what is your advice about..
[05:15] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal now can you reinstall ubuntu?
[05:16] <icarus-c> Kheops, just resize. it is very safe. at least the software is
[05:16] <txwikinger> how can I disable the caching for usb writing?
[05:16] <Kheops> icarus-c: To resize all the free memory or to take about 198 GB from 200 GB ?
[05:16] <nkdoodwal> no because boot manager not loading
[05:16] <Kheops> It's matters ?
[05:16] <icarus-c> Kheops, what do you mean...
[05:16] <icarus-c> free memory?
[05:16] <Kheops> icarus-c: mhm
[05:17] <pksadiq> if you can use your BIOS to boot from CD or USB you can induce without BIOS support Using bootmanagers Like Plop Boot manager , visit www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[05:17] <pksadiq> if you cant5 use your BIOS to boot from CD or USB you can induce without BIOS support Using bootmanagers Like Plop Boot manager , visit www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[05:17] <Kheops> icarus-c: It's more risky if I will resize to the full free memory ?
[05:18] <icarus-c> Kheops, what you actually want to achieve
[05:18] <Kheops> hmm
[05:18] <Kheops> icarus-c: It is much better to resize 198 GB from 200 free ?
[05:18] <icarus-c> Kheops, i thought you want to resize from 1TB to 800GB
[05:18] <Kheops> icarus-c: nop
[05:19] <icarus-c> Kheops, oh you mean extending? that is a real piece of cake
[05:19] <Kheops> icarus-c: hmmm
[05:19] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't think It's extending
[05:19] <icarus-c> Kheops, that will just change partition table a bit,  then change file system metadata. without even touching your data
[05:19] <icarus-c> oops
[05:20] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: this time it started booting process normally
[05:20] <icarus-c> Kheops, you mean 200GB -> 2GB ?...
[05:20] <Kheops> icarus-c: From 800 GB I want to take 200 GB that are free.
[05:20] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal k
[05:20] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal then, so what is the help do you do need>
[05:20] <pksadiq> ?
[05:20] <Kheops> icarus-c: And then I will make a new partition with 200 GB :)
[05:20] <icarus-c> Kheops, so you have 800GB total,  600GB used (hence 200GB free).  and you want to resize 800GB -> 600GB ?
[05:21] <Kheops> icarus-c: Taken from the 1000 GB 800 GB..
[05:21] <Kheops> there are 898G -> 562G Used -> 291G Free
[05:21] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: no thnks a lot for help
[05:21] <Kheops> now clear ?
[05:21] <Blue1> as the bottom of the hudson
[05:22] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: it started normally
[05:22] <pksadiq> nkdoodwal Welcome :) skype me at pksadiq
[05:22] <icarus-c> Kheops, you know what, just tell gparted what you want, it will tell you it can be done or not :)
[05:22] <shamez> what are good python books with socket programming?
[05:22] <Kheops> icarus-c: do you understand me ?
[05:22] <icarus-c> Kheops, it won't let you shrink size more than you used
[05:22] <nkdoodwal> pksadiq: ok
[05:22] <bullgard4> Eighteens: Probably edit in /boot/grub/menu.lst a line that starts with 'kernel' (without a leading #), which includes the path to the Linux kernel image and the boot parameters.
[05:23] <icarus-c> Kheops, i think i got you 70%
[05:23] <Kheops> icarus-c: so It's a resizing not an extending
[05:23] <SabayonUser> hi friends i have an old mac ibook  g3 ver 2 (30 GB hdd, 128 mb ram)...which version of ubuntu do you recommend me to load?
[05:23] <TiK> bullgard4: the file to edit is /etc/default/grub (for grub2)
[05:23] <Kheops> icarus-c: but also I can use move
[05:23] <Kheops> icarus-c: right ?
[05:23] <icarus-c> SabayonUser, lubuntu.
[05:23] <bullgard4> TiK: Don't hekp me but please help Eighteens.
[05:24] <Kheops> icarus-c: It's same like resizing but you specify the value for Free Space Preceding
[05:24] <pksadiq> !lubuntu
[05:24] <Eighteens> oh please do :)
[05:24] <icarus-c> SabayonUser, i would go without a desktop environment though. like use a Window Manager based setup
[05:24] <TiK> bullgard4: well you are wrong that file is auto generated and will be overwritten
[05:24] <shamez> what are good python books with socket programming?
[05:24] <icarus-c> shamez, #python
[05:24] <SabayonUser> but i heard there is a separate powerpc version available
[05:24] <bullgard4> s/hekp/help/
[05:24] <icarus-c> Kheops, yes you can move
[05:24] <Flynsarmy1> Is it worth upgrading to meercat now while the RC is out if i'm on intel hardware (laptop) with nvidia gpu. or should i wait for the final build?
[05:25] <SabayonUser> a separate powerpc version for netbook
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, but it would take a VERY long time...
[05:25] <Eighteens> thank you bullgard for that pleasant display of kindness in putting me before you
[05:25] <pksadiq> shamez check for diveintopython
[05:25] <Kheops> icarus-c: but I don't understand very much the you specify "the value for Free Space Preceding"
[05:25] <bullgard4> TiK: Don't help me but please help <Eighteens.
[05:25] <nkdoodwal> coz-: my wifi  is not working in ubuntu
[05:25] <TiK> Eighteens: what was you problem with grub2?
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, moving in gparted is just dragging
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, have you ever look at gparted?  the graph should explain
[05:25] <xiong> Can window movement be scripted?
[05:25] <Kheops> icarus-c: hmmm the move It's the same like resize ?
[05:25] <icarus-c> Kheops, no.
[05:25] <Kheops> icarus-c: of course.
[05:26] <nkdoodwal>  my wifi  is not working in ubuntu
[05:26] <gino_> Hello, could someone give me some info on how to run a bash script on startup? Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[05:26] <Eighteens> ok i got 10.04 to install, but i had to boot the live cd, and choose 'noapic with f6 options, and nolapic, and acpi=off and nomodeset
[05:26] <shamez> pksadiq, what about o'reilly books?
[05:26] <sebikul> !wifi
[05:26] <SabayonUser> nkdoodwal do u have NEtwork manager or wicd?
[05:26] <Kheops> icarus-c: I'm pretty confused about resizing and moving..
[05:26] <Eighteens> install completed, but after reboot it wouldnt go
[05:26] <Eighteens> i'm in the live cd now, and can see the drive it installed to
[05:27] <Kheops> icarus-c: which It's better for my wish ?
[05:27] <Blue1> Eighteens: what exactly is happening?  ubuntu only, or dual boot, or?
[05:27] <Eighteens> i tried escaping, and 'e' to edit the highlighted kernel, but it didnt work
[05:27] <shamez> pksadiq, plus i have already read diveintopython ..not very thorough on socket programming..
[05:27] <TiK> Eighteens: edit /etc/default/grub and add those ines where it says "queit splash"
[05:27] <pksadiq> shamez oh, really! but O'reilly books are mostely not free
[05:27] <icarus-c> Kheops, moving is keeping same file system size but put on different physical location on the disk
[05:27] <icarus-c> Kheops, resizing is about changing the size of the file system
[05:27] <nkdoodwal> SabayonUser:  network manager/wicd?????????
[05:27] <icarus-c> Kheops, resizing & moving can be mixed though
[05:27] <Eighteens> ok let me have a look
[05:27] <Flynsarmy1> any omgwtfbbq style bugs in the meercat RC that would make you recommend i wait for the final build before installing it on an intel laptop with nvidia gpu?
[05:27] <samodha> #ubuntu-br-ba na rede irc.freenode.org
[05:28] <shamez> pksadiq, i dont mind buying..possibly which book would you recomend?
[05:28] <TiK> Eighteens: on the mounted harddrive
[05:28] <TiK> Flynsarmy1: I run 10.10
[05:28] <Kheops> icarus-c: I understand that If I will use move to have free unused space for a new partition It will dragg my filles on another partition ?
[05:29] <Flynsarmy1> TiK: are the noveau drivers supporting 3D yet?
[05:29] <icarus-c> Kheops, no........... your file will ALWAYS stick to the file system
[05:29] <Eighteens> ok got the /etc/default/grub file open in gedit
[05:29] <TiK> Flynsarmy1: i run invidia as well
[05:29] <icarus-c> Kheops, the file system move, they move
[05:29] <TiK> Eighteens: from the mounted hard drive or the live cd's one?
[05:29] <Eighteens> the mounted drive
[05:29] <TiK> ok
[05:30] <TiK> Eighteens: 1 sec
[05:30] <Kheops> icarus-c: what are the file system that you refer ?
[05:30] <icarus-c> Kheops, you don't have to even think about your data
[05:30] <Eighteens> thanks so much for helping, i was looking all over the place for this file
[05:30] <Flynsarmy1> TiK: proprietry or OSS drviers?
[05:30] <Eighteens> in order to boot the live cd, i had to add like 4 options from the f6 menu
[05:30] <TiK> prop
[05:30] <Eighteens> acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, nomodeset
[05:30] <TiK> Eighteens: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= add here
[05:31] <nkdoodwal> TiK: my wifi  is not working in ubuntu  10.04
[05:31] <Eighteens> do i use spaces between the commands
[05:31] <icarus-c> Kheops, file system is the data structure that store & manage your files on storage.
[05:31] <Kheops> icarus-c: I don't understand the move command It says that It's like resizing command..
[05:31] <pksadiq> shamez chesk small tutorials online linke in http://www.evolt.org/node/60276        http://www.prasannatech.net/2008/07/socket-programming-tutorial.html      tp://www.slideshare.net/didip/socket-programming-in-python etc
[05:32] <TiK> Eighteens: yah spaces not ,'s
[05:32] <Kheops> with a small difference..
[05:32] <Eighteens> Tik, thank you so much, i wish i could repay you in some way, Great help!
[05:32] <rusivi> nkdoodwal What mfg/model laptop do you have?
[05:32] <icarus-c> Kheops, say it knows that /home/bill/favourite-porn.avi  is stored on  block  1000 to 1000000  on the disk physically
[05:32] <TiK> Eighteens: dont worry about it :P
[05:32] <nkdoodwal> rusivi:  i am having dell vostro 1510
[05:32] <icarus-c> Kheops, i think the word "move" & "resize" explain enough by itself
[05:33] <Eighteens> i don't mind holding escape when booting and choosing the drive i want to boot, but it would be nice if it was on a menu, like when you use the wubi loader, how it writes to boot.ini
[05:33] <Kheops> ...
[05:33] <TiK> Eighteens: you might have to do that 1 more time and then run "update-grub"
[05:33] <TiK> idk
[05:33] <icarus-c> Kheops, so in the bill's example,  favourite-porn.avi on block 1000-100000 is the data
[05:34] <vatsala> hi my netbook is unable to connect to wifi when it is running on battery
[05:34] <Kheops> I read..the gparted manual..
[05:34] <icarus-c> Kheops, you ask the file system for favourite-porn.avi,   the file system gives you data on block 1000-100000
[05:34] <Kheops> don't understand the move..
[05:34] <Eighteens> ok, so the line reads  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=off noapic nolapic nomodeset"
[05:34] <icarus-c> Kheops, ok... now place your phone on desk
[05:34] <Eighteens> Tik, that look ok
[05:35] <vatsala> I haev a BCM4312 n/w controller - and i installed the bcm43xx-fwcutter tool
[05:35] <icarus-c> Kheops, let your phone now be at  place A.    now move it to the right by 10cm to place B
[05:35] <Kheops> icarus-c: k..I understand
[05:35] <TiK> Eighteens: yep reboot and try it you might have to put those opens in but onc its up run update-grub
[05:35] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: ..:-)
[05:35] <vatsala> is anyone facing a similar problem?
[05:35] <TiK> and it should do it everytime
[05:35] <Kheops> icarus-c: but I don't understand with partitions..
[05:35] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: . :-)
[05:35] <Kheops> icarus-c: here says..It's just like resizing, except that you specify the value for Free Space Preceding in the options.
[05:35] <icarus-c> Kheops, now i rephrase that:  your file system was starting on block A, size of your phone, and now you move the whole file system to block B
[05:36] <Eighteens> ok, thanks again, be back in 2shakes of a lambs tail
[05:36] <Eighteens> exit
[05:36] <icarus-c> (block refer to the starting block of the file system
[05:36] <Kheops> why I shuld to that ?
[05:36] <nkdoodwal> vatsala: yeah me
[05:36] <Kheops> should*
[05:36] <Kheops> do*..
[05:36] <icarus-c> Kheops, free space preceding is like cutting left side of your phone to "free" some space
[05:36] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Has the wifi ever worked either in 10.04, prior Ubuntu, or in Maverick?
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, "free space after"  means cut right side of your phone to free some space on the right
[05:37] <Kheops> but where It's going the moved space ?
[05:37] <vatsala> nkdoodwal: ok, how do it solve it - i found a work around for a realtek chipset but not yet for broadcom
[05:37] <nkdoodwal> yes in ubuntu 9.10
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, move is about displacement, moving your phone
[05:37] <Kheops> but where ?
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, where you tell it to...
[05:37] <Kheops> I see...
[05:37]  * Blue1 thinks icarus-c has the patience of job....
[05:37] <icarus-c> Kheops, see that bar where you could drag the partition around in gparted?
[05:38] <pksadiq> icarus-c are you jocking?
[05:38] <Kheops> Blue1: you're rude ? :)
[05:38] <nkdoodwal> rusivi:  wifi driver not installing
[05:38] <icarus-c> Blue1, saturday :)
[05:38] <icarus-c> pksadiq, i can't think of better way to teach
[05:38] <bazhang> Kheops, this is going to take a long time. best to get started.
[05:38] <Kheops> icarus-c: I see
[05:38] <pksadiq> icarus-c Great, Keep it Up
[05:38] <icarus-c> Kheops, dragging that bar is like moving your phone..
[05:39] <Kheops> bazhang: thanks for whishes.
[05:39] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Ok, your saying when you click System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers it does not install?
[05:39] <bazhang> Kheops, any data you don't backup is not important. always do backups before such sensitive operations.
[05:40] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: it show in h/w driver but give error message
[05:40] <Kheops> I don't understand..
[05:40] <Kheops> look at this http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[05:40] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Can you copy/paste the error message?
[05:40] <Kheops> scroll down to Task 6
[05:40] <bazhang> Kheops, make a back up copy.  just in case.
[05:40] <Kheops> and tell me what he did.
[05:41] <Kheops> bazhang: I can't there are many data files..
[05:41] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: yeah
[05:41] <bazhang> Kheops, then you deem them unimportant.
[05:41] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: please do so
[05:42] <Kheops> bazhang: If I could do the backup I didn't come here k ?
[05:42] <vatsala> rusivi: my broadcoam b43 wireless drivers are installed but I dont know if I have missed something else
[05:42] <icarus-c> Kheops, i think what he meant is moving is like resizing because it can be done by changing free space preceding & following  at the same time
[05:42] <Kheops> I realy don't understand...http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html task 6
[05:43] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you got gparted running, you drag the bar around, you will see the value of free space preceding &following change together
[05:43] <vatsala> rusivi: let me paste the o/p of iwconfig and ifconfig from my netbook a
[05:43] <Kheops> can you explain to me task 6 ?
[05:43] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: it asks to look file named /var/log/jockey.log
[05:43] <Kheops> what he did..
[05:43] <icarus-c> Kheops, just very simple math,  add some free space in front, minus some after, if what you added & minuses are the same, it is "move"
[05:43] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: ok one moment please
[05:44] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you don't understand that, ignore he says "just like resizing"
[05:44] <x-izzy> i need help in installing kopete
[05:44] <zain> The file '/home/zain/.wine/dosdevices/c:/users/zain/My Documents/Downloads/idman519.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[05:44] <icarus-c> Kheops, if you insist to understand it but you don't,  just run gparted, play around with the bar you will see
[05:44] <Kheops> I see..
[05:44] <Kheops> k thanks
[05:44] <Kheops> :P
[05:45] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: it shows following message
[05:45] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: 2010-10-01 10:47:05,410 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[05:45] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: have you been trying fwcutter?
[05:45] <zain> how to slove that
[05:45] <zain> The file '/home/zain/.wine/dosdevices/c:/users/zain/My Documents/Downloads/idman519.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[05:45] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: no
[05:46] <rusivi> nkdoodwal: Ok, one thing that is helpful is has your wifi issue worked in either a prior version of Ubuntu or in Maverick?
[05:46] <icarus-c> zain, even idman519.exe is executable, linux can't run it anyway
[05:46] <zain> ..
[05:46] <zain> I have wine
[05:46] <icarus-c> zain, you still have to run it like "wine idman519.exe"
[05:46] <icarus-c> zain, and you could still run it like that WITHOUT executatble right
[05:47] <vatsala> nkdoodwal: wht chipset and device drive did you use in your prior Ubuntu version
[05:47] <zain> I right click it and open with wine loadeer
[05:47] <zain> but it seems block
[05:47] <tejas> pksadiq, well I got ./configure to work but no I get this /bin/bash: xmlto: command not found when I try to make
[05:47] <litropy> Hello, all. Instead of describing my issue here, I've pastebin'ed it. Please see: http://pastebin.com/K8uMbsUw
[05:47] <pksadiq> zain right click on the file > properties > permisions and tick execute
[05:47] <nkdoodwal> rusivi: yes in ubuntu 9.10
[05:48] <zain> thanks pksadiq
[05:48] <icarus-c> execute permission has no use for wine
[05:48] <pksadiq> zain Welcome
[05:49] <icarus-c> pksadiq, if you can't run "wine blah.exe"  without execute permission,  but you could  with execute permisison, let me know :P
[05:50] <pksadiq> tejas sudo apt-get install xmlto
[05:50] <icarus-c> it is just like you can also run a bash script without executable permission with  "bash apple.sh"
[05:50] <icarus-c> just that you can't  ./apple.sh  when it got no execute right
[05:50] <tejas> cd
[05:51] <pksadiq> icarcus-c I'm not the Architect of Wine. :)
[05:51] <icarus-c> speaking of wine, i should get a bear
[05:52] <pksadiq> icarus-c I haven't yet drunk wine or Bear, It's Haram for me as According to our  Ethical Laws
[05:52] <icarus-c> pksadiq, sorry for mentioning beer then :P
[05:53] <pksadiq> icarus-c I Sorry, I meant Beer
[05:53] <greezmunkey> ubudtu
[05:54] <zain> :S
[05:54] <zain> I feel like using linuxmint
[05:54] <pksadiq> icarus-c So now get back to Our Moto," Live and Help Live"
[05:54] <usuario> mm
[05:54] <x-izzy> hi