[03:41] <shape> hoary?
[03:41] <Jucato> hoary?
[03:41] <shape> :)
[03:41] <intelikey> or deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu breezy-commercial main
[03:41] <intelikey> or deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[03:41] <octan> why do i get error if i use -A INPUT -p all --dport X -j DROP but not if i do -A INPUT -p tcp --dport X -j DROP
[03:41] <Jucato> dapper-commercial only
[03:41] <intelikey> get the idea ?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> No need to paste all that.  Just use dapper since that's all he wants/needs
[03:41] <shape> oh i think so
[03:41] <Jucato> intelikey: only dapper has a commercial repo. edgy has one, but last I checked, it's empty
[03:42] <bot12gb> please kubuntu spanish?
[03:42] <intelikey> Jucato i was only pointing out how the repo listings work.
[03:42] <Jucato> ah
[03:42] <Jucato> !es | bot12gb
[03:42] <ubotu> bot12gb: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:42] <shape> intelikey
[03:42] <shape> you were right it
[03:43] <shape> i've just got realplayer
[03:43] <shape> thank budy
[03:43] <shape> ;)
[03:43] <intelikey> np
[03:43] <intelikey> Jucato report on that publicly please.
[03:44] <Jucato> yep, still empty...
[03:44] <intelikey> k   ty.
[03:44] <shape> if you go on in this way everyone will leave window to gopass to ubuntu
[03:44] <Jucato> hm...
[03:44] <Daskreech> gopass?
[03:45] <intelikey> shape thanks for the warning.    "ALSA WE MUST CHANGE COURSE !"
[03:45] <shape> there's a problem the package is broken
[03:45] <shape> soi try toinstall the .bin package
[03:45] <shape> what kind of command i have to use
[03:45] <shape> =
[03:46] <Daskreech> ./package.bonm
[03:46] <Daskreech> package.bin
[03:46] <intelikey> chmod 555 *.bin ;./*.bin
[03:46] <[GuS] > anyone knows a nice webcam stream for linux... but not camstream or VLC... i need to take pics avery X seconds or minutes
[03:46] <beefsprocket> ekiga?
[03:46] <[GuS] > ?
[03:47] <[GuS] > do you things that Ekiga could takes pics every X seconds for upload into a web?
[03:47] <[GuS] > :P
[03:47] <[GuS] > not... thats not.
[03:49] <BluesKaj> [GuS] , http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/gtkcamshot
[03:50] <[GuS] > nope.. that either.. i need one under console execution
[03:50] <[GuS] > i forgot the dame... damn
[03:50] <intelikey> !language
[03:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:51] <[GuS] > intelikey, ?
[03:51] <ehird> damn is bad language? since when?
[03:51] <[GuS] > ehird, same thing i am asking..
[03:51] <[GuS] > intelikey, and i ask to you, please use your time for better things :)
[03:56] <kjelderg_> if xset says the screensaver is not enabled and kde says the screensaver is not enabled, why is the screensaver enabled and more importantly how do I disable it?
[03:57] <intelikey> kjelderg_ is it xscreensaver or is it power management that is enabled ?
[03:57] <kdefrysk> systemsettings >desktop >screensaver
[03:57] <kjelderg_> it shows a big white X sometimes
[03:59] <instructor> Argh
[03:59] <instructor> !monitor
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <instructor> !display
[03:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:00] <instructor> 640x480 as the only option really doesn't cut it
[04:00] <kjelderg_> instructor: try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding more modes
[04:00] <kjelderg_> should be in the screen section
[04:01] <instructor> The monitor isn't there
[04:01] <instructor>  it's a new monitor
[04:01] <instructor>  I don't see it in the options
[04:01] <intelikey> instructor sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:02] <intelikey> instructor or even; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[04:02] <instructor> -plow?
[04:02] <Morrissey> Hi! Has anyone managed to get "Second Life" to run smoothly in ubuntu? My 3D drivers should be fine (ppracer works great!), and I have a ATI 9000, and a 1,5ghz Pentium. But still its almost impossible to do stuff with the character, and it seems as if my computer is about about to explode :)
[04:02] <intelikey> man dpkg-reconfigure
[04:03] <intelikey> Morrissey i'm not a gamer, don't like/do propriatary krap.  sorry.
[04:04] <intelikey> i started to install nvidia driver here one time.... found the eula unacceptable.  endo of story.
[04:04] <instructor> intelikey: Still doesn't shed light
[04:05] <intelikey> instructor what doesnt ?
[04:06] <intelikey> the man page for dpkg ?
[04:06] <trappist> Morrissey: easy way to know for sure if you're 3d-accelerated -> glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:06] <instructor> dpkg-reconfigure
[04:06] <Morrissey> trappist, glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:06] <Morrissey> it says yes
[04:07] <trappist> Morrissey: so that's good.  could it be that second life (never heard of it) simple has hardware requirements beyond what you have?
[04:07] <Morrissey> nope, thats the reason, it dont :)
[04:07] <Jucato> do you have the proprietary video drivers installed?
[04:07] <BluesKaj> intelikey, http://www.rarewares.org/debian.html ...a bit risky but i found the devede 2.5 version on these repos ...there is some other cutting edge video stuff for the ppl who like to live abit on the edgy :)
[04:08] <instructor> intelikey: dpkg-reconfigure
[04:09] <intelikey> instructor you want do fix xorg to use higher rezolutions    no?
[04:09] <Morrissey> Jucato, yes
[04:09] <instructor> Well yes But I need to redetect my monitor
[04:09] <instructor>  I looked in the listing of monitors and it's not listed there
[04:09] <instructor> can I find an official listing of supported monitors?
[04:10] <intelikey> http://monitorworld.com
[04:10] <instructor> autodetecting gives me back Generic with an upper resolution of 640x480
[04:10] <intelikey> all monitors are supported by x.
[04:10] <instructor> I figure
[04:10] <intelikey> don't autodetect.
[04:10] <instructor>  but I have to know the specs
[04:10] <intelikey> go to that web page and search.
[04:10] <intelikey> http://monitorworld.com
[04:11] <instructor> Going
[04:12] <instructor> Hmm It's not there either
[04:12] <intelikey> instructor also of note.  some monitors have that info on the id tag on the back...   "not a lot nowa days"   most if not all have it listed in the users manual that comes with the new monitor.
[04:13] <instructor> The back is pur black no tags etc
[04:13] <instructor> Hmm wonder if I pull it apart
[04:14] <instructor> Nope just the Model number
[04:14] <intelikey> instructor so use something more generic if you have to.   at the monitor section of the reconfigure process choose simple and select the ctr size   (assumed crt because lcd are all alike i think)
[04:15] <_ita> hi all .. i need to play around with regexps .. on fc3 i had a little tool under kde that let me play with regexps (entering strings, seeing what and if my exp hits...) - can anyone help me remember what that tool is called ?! (or has advice to some other tool !?)
[04:15] <instructor> It's an LCD
[04:15] <intelikey> then select that.  :)
[04:16] <Alter-Ego> ! mp3
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <Alter-Ego> where is the link for auto repository creation
[04:17] <intelikey> !repos | Alter-Ego
[04:17] <ubotu> Alter-Ego: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:18] <Jucato> !easysource
[04:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:19] <trappist> _ita: kregexpeditor
[04:20] <trappist> _ita: as reported by `apt-cache search regular expression | grep -i kde`
[04:22] <intelikey> kregexpeditor - graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE
[04:23] <_ita> thank you
[04:23] <instructor> intelikey: Hoorah!! 1280x1024 :)
[04:23] <intelikey> see.   see.   si.
[04:23] <intelikey> C
[04:23] <intelikey> :)
[04:24] <kjelderg_> sea?
[04:24] <intelikey> no i get sea sick.
[04:24] <instructor> I'm sick of C as well
[04:24] <intelikey> or maybe i get sea++ sick   ?
[04:24] <trappist> so bad.
[04:25] <intelikey> :)
[04:26] <ubuntu_> hey all
[04:27] <intelikey> ubuntu_ test driving, or did you break something ?
[04:27] <ubuntu_> no
[04:27] <ubuntu_> im a) using kubuntu for the first real time (non live)
[04:27] <ubuntu_> and b) trying to find an m$ replacement
[04:28] <ubuntu_> how do i change my name?
[04:28] <intelikey> man usermod
[04:29] <Rooster> Hello
[04:29] <ubuntu_> eh?
[04:29] <ubuntu_> intelli, were u talkin to me?
[04:29] <ubuntu_> oops
[04:29] <ubuntu_> gotta restart
[04:29] <ubuntu_> brb
[04:29] <intelikey> if man pages are still a bit to cryptic for you.  usermod -l new_login_name
[04:29] <ubuntu_> oh
[04:29] <ubuntu_> u mean in konsole
[04:29] <ubuntu_> man? as in manual?
[04:30] <intelikey> gotta restart ???    yes konsole
[04:30] <ubuntu_> just finished installing
[04:30] <ubuntu_> k
[04:30] <ubuntu_> ill do that when i get back
[04:30] <ubuntu_> might need some guidance, tho
[04:30] <intelikey> ubuntu_ yes   man is the command to access the manual pages
[04:30] <kjelderg_> ubuntu_ or try man://usermod in konqueror
[04:30] <ubuntu_> DOS and Konsole have a huge variance in command lines
[04:30] <instructor> ubuntu_: /nick new_name
[04:30] <ubuntu_> k
[04:30] <ubuntu_> brb all
[04:30] <ubuntu_> l8r
[04:30] <instructor> In IRC :)
[04:31] <intelikey> ubuntu_    being new to manual pages   man man    would be a good idea.
[04:32] <intelikey> i really hope that he/she doesn't leave the username ubuntu  as the root jr. account....
[04:32] <stefania> hi guys
[04:32] <stefania> i have a question for you
[04:33] <stefania> i have used the ncurses installer (the one like debian-installer)
[04:33] <instructor> We have answers
[04:33] <stefania> and found the partitioning tool was very cool
[04:33] <intelikey> gparted
[04:33] <instructor> What's the incrrect answer to this question?
[04:33] <Jucato> ncurses? gparted?
[04:34] <stefania> ncurses
[04:34] <intelikey> Jucato we always have answers.  but correct answers are scarse as hen's teeth.
[04:34] <stefania> i used it to easily create a raid1 array
[04:34] <stefania> now i added 2 more disk to the server
[04:34] <stefania> and want to create a new raid1 array
[04:35] <instructor> LVM?
[04:35] <stefania> i was wondering if i can use the same tool under an installed ubuntu system
[04:35] <stefania> no i want to know the name of the ncurses partitioning tool
[04:35] <stefania> i you can...
[04:36] <stefania> *if
[04:36] <intelikey> stefania parted frontends are gparted qtparted
[04:36] <intelikey> iirc
[04:36] <instructor> eparted! :)
[04:36] <instructor> :-( Man e needs some backing
[04:37] <intelikey> instructor e is new to me.
[04:37] <intelikey> !eparted
[04:37] <stefania> is there anyone that can help here, and that actually is not a bot?
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <intelikey> stefania two bots here. ubotu and....
[04:37] <intelikey> !stats
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <intelikey> %stats
[04:38] <ubotu> I have 45 registered users with 44 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
[04:38] <instructor> ubugtu I think
[04:38] <stefania> intelikey: are you a bot?
[04:38] <intelikey> the other is gone... one bot here.
[04:38] <instructor> stefania: he preferes autmoated knowledge transfer assistant
[04:38] <instructor> automated even
[04:38] <instructor> ubuntu_: Hi
[04:38] <ubuntu_> holas
[04:38] <octan> with iptables. when i set the policy to drop.. iptables -P INPUT DROP does that also DROP icmp protocole ?
[04:38] <ubuntu_> hola
[04:38] <ubuntu_> holas
[04:39] <ubuntu_> quienme ayuda a instalar!??
[04:39] <instructor> !es | ubuntu_
[04:39] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:39] <ubuntu_> :(
[04:39] <instructor> ubuntu_: ?
[04:40] <intelikey> ubotu are you a bot  :)
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot  :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <instructor> !help
[04:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:40] <intelikey> !botsnack
[04:40] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:41] <longsword33733> hey
[04:41] <longsword33733> im back
[04:41] <longsword33733> changed my name
[04:41] <longsword33733> so
[04:41] <longsword33733> ya
[04:41] <longsword33733> figured it out
[04:41] <longsword33733> thx
[04:41] <longsword33733> tho
[04:41] <trappist> !enter
[04:41] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:41] <intelikey> congrats ubuntu / now longsword33733
[04:41] <longsword33733> how do i install wine?
[04:42] <intelikey> !wine
[04:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:42] <longsword33733> is that in the auto updater?
[04:42] <longsword33733> is it free?
[04:42] <intelikey> it is.
[04:42] <Chousuke> the newest version might not be though.
[04:42] <longsword33733> kool
[04:42] <longsword33733> oh
[04:42] <longsword33733> ok
[04:42] <intelikey> read the link ^
[04:42] <longsword33733> ill get an older one then
[04:43] <longsword33733> !wine
[04:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:43] <instructor> Chousuke: Why not
[04:43] <trappist> longsword33733: I think he means the newest version might not be in the repos
[04:43] <longsword33733> ahhhhhh
[04:43] <instructor> They are changing the license?
[04:43] <longsword33733> orly?
[04:43] <longsword33733> see
[04:43] <Hawkwind> The newest version is available in the repos
[04:43] <instructor> ah Ok :)
[04:43] <longsword33733> idk how these open source licenses work
[04:43] <Hawkwind> # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[04:43] <Hawkwind> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:43] <longsword33733> all i know is that kubuntu is "software libre"
[04:43] <Hawkwind> Use that, and you'll get the latest
[04:44] <instructor> I thought that they (WineHQ) had thier own Ubuntu repo
[04:44] <Chousuke> instructor: I meant, it might have not been there before edgy eas releaed :)
[04:44] <longsword33733> thx man
[04:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: can I use that on Edgy? :(
[04:44] <Chousuke> but it seems it was.
[04:44] <longsword33733> im not useing edgy
[04:44] <longsword33733> isnt that the one u have to pay for right now?
[04:44] <longsword33733> no
[04:44] <longsword33733> im using dapper
[04:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Just change Dapper to Edgy
[04:45] <Hawkwind> longsword33733: Just use what I pasted, add it to your sources.list
[04:45] <longsword33733> k
[04:45] <longsword33733> thx
[04:45] <longsword33733> !source
[04:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:45] <LjL> pay for?
[04:45] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I don't think they have one for edgy just yet. maybe
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/
[04:45] <longsword33733> i look up ubuntu build releases every few months
[04:45] <Rooster> hello
[04:45] <longsword33733> anfd i saw that canonical wasnt shipping edgy for free
[04:45] <instructor> Is it legal to distribute the source for cedega?
[04:45] <intelikey> longsword33733 then you should read on http://gnu.org to understand the idea of gnu-gpl
[04:46] <longsword33733> whats gnu-gp?
[04:46] <Jucato> Hawkwind: oo nice!
[04:46] <Hawkwind> longsword33733: Google.com is a great place to start for those types of questions
[04:46] <longsword33733> ahhhh
[04:46] <intelikey> gnu general public license
[04:46] <instructor> !google
[04:46] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:46] <longsword33733> tyty
[04:47] <longsword33733> ya im pretty sure i know all about google
[04:47] <longsword33733> thx tho
[04:47] <Rooster> I'm trying to increase the res on my monitor from 1024 X 768 to 1280 X 1024 but when I got to change it in system preferences the hightest it'll let me set it too is 1024
[04:47] <instructor> !resolution
[04:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:48] <longsword33733> hey wine hq is reccomending an UBUNTU directory (repository) tho im using KUBUNTU
[04:48] <Jucato> Hawkwind: didn't notice they updated their website :)
[04:48] <longsword33733> is there any diff?
[04:48] <Rooster> I have an nVidia graphics card.  Is this problem occuring because I don't have the right drivers installed right now?
[04:48] <instructor> longsword33733: Nope use it with our blessing
[04:48] <intelikey> Rooster sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[04:48] <longsword33733> kool
[04:48] <longsword33733> thx guys
[04:48] <longsword33733> hey hold on
[04:48] <longsword33733> do any of u guys work on the kubuntu dev team or something?
[04:48] <longsword33733> cause i swear...
[04:49] <intelikey> Rooster no.   the nv driver can handle very high res.  but not 3d hardware accel.
[04:49] <intelikey> !nv
[04:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <intelikey> Rooster ^
[04:49] <Rooster> intelikey: Thanks, I'll check this out
[04:49] <longsword33733> so how do i get to the "installer"?
[04:50] <Jucato> wow. Ubuntu's Wine is 3 versions old...
[04:50] <longsword33733> hey will adept adaptyer do it>?
[04:50] <Rooster> I found this:
[04:50] <Rooster> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[04:50] <Rooster> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:51] <intelikey> first check the prerequisites.   if you have nvidia card and you need 3d hardware accelleration.   i have nvidia but don't need the 3d,  so i don't install the propritary driver.   (also i refuse the eula on the propritary)
[04:51] <Rooster> in a guide but it screwed up my Xwindows and I had to go back to the live cd to get the proper xorg.config back
[04:52] <shape> guys i need toinstall a .bin file
[04:52] <shape> how can i install it?
[04:52] <intelikey> !repos | longsword33733
[04:52] <ubotu> longsword33733: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:52] <Hawkwind> sh file.bin
[04:52] <intelikey> read there   ^
[04:52] <instructor> longsword33733: Yea it will
[04:52] <Hawkwind> shape: You might have to chmod +x file.bin first
[04:53] <intelikey> chmod 555 *.bin ;./*.bin
[04:54] <Hawkwind> No need for all of that crazy stuff
[04:54] <intelikey> unless you have several .bin files    ....
[04:54] <longsword33733> k thx
[04:54] <Hawkwind> chmod +x file.bin works perfectly
[04:54] <shape> ok i've typed chmod +x
[04:54] <shape> and then?
[04:54] <longsword33733> well... too bad its "busy" at the moment
[04:54] <Hawkwind> sh file.bin
[04:54] <longsword33733> installing updates
[04:54] <longsword33733> ...theres a lot
[04:54] <intelikey> yep
[04:55] <longsword33733> a hell of a lot...
[04:55] <longsword33733> so
[04:55] <shape> yeah but iwish to have an icon in my kde
[04:55] <longsword33733> i can run virtually any win32 app on wine, right?>
[04:55] <Hawkwind> shape: Won't happen if you're installing from that type of file
[04:55] <intelikey> Hawkwind is starting another shell considered safer than just running the .bin ?
[04:55] <shape> ahok
[04:56] <intelikey> sh file.bin    as opposed to  ./file.bin ?
 i can run virtually any win32 app on wine, right? <---- there are apps (some games) that wont run in wine.
[04:58] <intelikey> longsword33733 windows explorer was one that wouldn't run  i don't know if that has changed or not.
[04:58] <ehird> there are many apps that won't work but if you keep at it suprisingly many will work
[04:58] <intelikey> there is a list on the website
[04:58] <longsword33733> what games will run? i like to play counter-strike, and starcraft
[04:58] <Guardian> hello
[04:59] <ehird> just be prepared to have to fiddle with hacks
[04:59] <Guardian> just used adept to install eclipse-sdk
[04:59] <ehird> longsword33733: why don't you go check yourself instead of making us do work you could do?
[04:59] <Guardian> it does not launch
[04:59] <Guardian> any idea ?
So if the nv driver can handle high res than why can't I increase my res?
[04:59] <longsword33733> judst askin, jeez
[04:59] <ehird> yes, well, we're not your parents
[04:59] <ehird> wine has a site.
[04:59] <intelikey> longsword33733  there is a list on the website
[05:00] <icheyne> chill out ehird
[05:00] <Guardian> hmm
[05:01] <Guardian> seems it's kdialog that changed
[05:01] <Guardian> does not support --warning
[05:01] <BluesKaj> How do I restore KDE windows defaults ?
[05:01] <intelikey> longsword33733 nothing wrong with asking,   and you usually get answers.  just not always correct or useful answers... :)
[05:01] <longsword33733> Intelikey: thx man
[05:02] <intelikey> Guardian did they drop on dash there ?
[05:02] <intelikey> -warning
[05:02] <instructor> longsword33733: read up on the wine HQ site
[05:02] <Guardian> intelikey: sorry ?
[05:02] <instructor>  !games
[05:02] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:02] <BluesKaj> I screwed up my windows settings in kde ...is there a default backup state ?
[05:02] <instructor> windows 98 or Windows Xp?
[05:03] <ScarFreewill> !java
[05:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:03] <Guardian> intelikey: yeah i'm using kubuntu edgy, and it's dash
[05:03] <BluesKaj> instructor, read again :)
[05:03] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: kcontrol and there is a 'Default' button on almost every screen
[05:03] <BluesKaj> ok Hawkwind, thx
[05:03] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Or log out of KDE, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old and restart KDE
[05:03] <intelikey> Guardian switches that used to be --blah for some X apps are now -blah   single dash  as opposed to dubble   it's not exactly posix and i dislike it.  but that doesn't change it.
[05:04] <ehird> intelikey: wow, interesting. any reason?
[05:04] <intelikey> ehird i have no clue.  they probably thought they had a reason.
[05:04] <ehird> i've always used --for-long-type-arguments and -L for the short ones
[05:05] <instructor> intelikey: that's dash?
[05:05] <lopio> hello, someone who help me with install kubuntu :? i have problem with graphic when i want install, i dont want use coomand line, my graphic x700pro
[05:05] <LjL> they probably think standardization and consistency is stupid
[05:05] <intelikey> ehird  try  Xorg --version     and try Xorg -version     for an example.
[05:06] <intelikey> instructor see that example also   ^
[05:06] <ehird> intelikey: oh wow.
[05:06] <Guardian> intelikey: i guess it's just the /usr/bin/eclipse script that is bullshit
[05:06] <ehird> that's stupid
[05:07] <instructor> !language
[05:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:07] <intelikey> ehird i concur
[05:07] <Guardian> intelikey: here it tries to use --warning on kdialog which simply a non existing option
[05:07] <ehird> i am disappointed in x.org
[05:07] <ehird> X sucks anyway though so meh :P
[05:07] <intelikey> Guardian perzactly.   that why i mentioned it.
[05:08] <kjelderg_> aren't we all disappointed with X?
[05:08] <instructor> Lets go to y!
[05:08] <intelikey> kjelderg_ !i   just disapointed in the developers that think changing to non-posix compliance is acceptable
[05:09] <kjelderg_> intelikey: oh?
[05:09] <Guardian> intelikey: i don't know if the installation would have worked with ubuntu, but since i started using kubuntu 5.10, nothing really works first shot :/
[05:10] <instructor> intelikey: No flash for you?
[05:11] <intelikey> like many of the base utils  now use dashless switches   tar cf file.tar paths/    should be tar -cf *
[05:11] <intelikey> instructor no i don't do flash.
[05:11] <trappist> intelikey: the tar cf syntax is for compatibility with non-gnu tar, like you'll find on a solaris box
[05:11] <kjelderg_> flash is pretty useless
[05:12] <Morrissey> I want to play an online game in ubuntu :) 3d maybe? Can anyone suggest? ;)
[05:12] <instructor> Is there a skribus?
[05:12] <instructor> !games
[05:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:12] <instructor> Morrissey: World of Warcraft :)
[05:12] <Morrissey> instructor, hehe :) Using cedega? or?
[05:13] <instructor> Wine can handle it
[05:13] <intelikey> trappist yes of course linux should conform to windows and solaris    but not the other way around....    pfft.   i'll drop it at that.  </rant>
[05:13] <Morrissey> oh, cool
[05:13] <Morrissey> Maybe I want to download a demo, just to test my 3d drivers ... is there a support list?
[05:13] <Morrissey> that can be used with wine?
[05:14] <trappist> intelikey: gnu tar accepts both.  I deliberately developed the habit of omitting the hyphen so I won't be like wtf if I find myself on ye olde unix one day... which I figure is the reason behind gnu tar accepting both syntaxes... posix conformance and cross-*nix compatibility
[05:14] <instructor> Morrissey: You just want to test the 3D drivers?
[05:14] <kjelderg_> Morrissey: try unreal tournament?
[05:14] <instructor> glxgears or ppracer should be good enough
[05:14] <Morrissey> kjelderg_, the demo?
[05:14] <instructor> Or that
[05:14] <Morrissey> both of em work :) Theres nothing wrong with my 3d drivers, just want to play a game .. been ages since!
[05:15] <kjelderg_> the whole thing, Morrissey
[05:15] <kjelderg_> UT is fun times
[05:15] <intelikey> trappist k.
[05:15] <Morrissey> actually im a bit boored with 3d shoot-em-up :) Sorry ..
[05:15] <kjelderg_> or enemy territory if you want free
[05:15] <kjelderg_> bah
[05:15] <Morrissey> enemy territory?
[05:15] <kjelderg_> alpha centauri? (sp?)
[05:15] <Morrissey> oh
[05:15] <kjelderg_> enemy territory is shooter as well
[05:15] <kjelderg_> based on one of the quakes
[05:16] <Morrissey> I just got the MX revolution mice, so I should try that out as well :)
[05:16] <Morrissey> kjelderg_, does enemy territory look good?
[05:16] <kjelderg_> I don't think so
[05:16] <Morrissey> hehe
[05:16] <Morrissey> ok
[05:16] <kjelderg_> ooh...there was a game I saw recently that did, though
[05:16] <kjelderg_> let me see if I kept a link to it
[05:18] <instructor> Morrissey: Browse happypenguin
[05:18] <Morrissey> ok, Ill try :;)
[05:19] <intelikey> !tome
[05:19] <ubotu> tome: A single-player, text-based, dungeon simulation game.. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (edgy), package size 2307 kB, installed size 9460 kB
[05:19] <_ita> i did a regexp im happy with .. but what i did is "matching all i want/need" .. if id do a replace now id LOSE all the data i want ... can i somehow negate my regexp ? to use this regexp replacing "all not mentioned" in regexp ?!
[05:19] <intelikey> stupid bot.
[05:19] <Morrissey> intelikey?
[05:20] <icheyne> tremulous rocks :)
[05:20] <intelikey> linux game tome not the game tome for linux   there is a world of differance.
[05:20] <kjelderg_> Morrissey: ooh, and there was an AoE-like game that was in development, I think
[05:20] <kjelderg_> (AoE-like == real-time strategy)
[05:20] <Morrissey> oh, cool .. specifically for *nix?
[05:20] <itknight> hey
[05:20] <kjelderg_> I think so, though most nix devs make multiplatform out of habit
[05:21] <intelikey> http://gametome.linuxquake.com
[05:21] <itknight> I am trying to install openkiosk
[05:22] <instructor> !happypenguin
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about happypenguin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <itknight> I need to understand
[05:22] <itknight> which packages U need for kde libraries and development
[05:22] <itknight> I
[05:22] <itknight> in adept
[05:22] <Morrissey> www.happypenguin.com
[05:22] <Morrissey> really :)
[05:22] <kjelderg_> http://www.truecombatelite.net/gallery/
[05:23] <itknight> Hello can some one help me with this
[05:23] <kjelderg_> that's the prettier shooter I was thinking of
[05:23] <kjelderg_> and now to remember the strategy game
[05:23] <intelikey> this might explain what i meant. http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Linux%20Game%20Tome
[05:23] <Morrissey> .org evn! Dman
[05:23] <Morrissey> kjelderg_, ah
[05:23] <itknight> I need to know which packages are the kde development and libraries
[05:24] <itknight> hello can anyone help me
[05:25] <instructor> !help
[05:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:25] <instructor> !anyone
[05:25] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:25] <Morrissey> that looks sweet kjelderg_ :)
[05:26] <itknight> I am installing
[05:26] <itknight> openkiosk and I need kde libraries and development packages
[05:28] <icheyne> !tremulous | kjelderg_
[05:28] <kjelderg_> Morrissey:  http://boson.eu.org or http://www.glest.org
[05:28] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB
[05:28] <kjelderg_> those are strategies
[05:28] <icheyne> !tremulous
[05:28] <kjelderg_> icheyne: thanks :)
[05:28] <Morrissey> tremulous?
[05:29] <intelikey> FPS = first person shooter   no?
[05:29] <icheyne> Morrissey, it's excellent
[05:29] <icheyne> that's right
[05:29] <icheyne> RTS= Realtime strategy (Starcraft etc)
[05:30] <instructor> Wesnoth!!
[05:30] <instructor> !wesnoth
[05:30] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[05:31] <kjelderg_> wesnoth is so 2d
[05:31] <intelikey> icheyne very closely related the two.
[05:31] <icheyne> computer games are too solitary - unless you are at a LAN party
[05:31] <icheyne> intelikey, sure - but I find boardgames richer and more sociable
[05:32] <instructor> kjelderg_: needing only 3d is so 1d
[05:32] <kjelderg_> I've been playing a whole lot of the civ recently...
[05:32] <intelikey> wesnoth has the makings of a really good game  but the game campains that are perpaired for it are not even 2d.  they are 1d  linear    imo
[05:32] <kjelderg_> my flatmates and I have been up until 3AM pretty consistently with the civ
[05:33] <intelikey> freeciv ?
[05:33] <kjelderg_> no
[05:33] <kjelderg_> the commercial civ, I fear
[05:34] <intelikey> mmm never seen it myself
[05:34] <kjelderg_> the 4th release, good-looking game, fun play
[05:34] <kjelderg_> but now that I've heard boson is playable and usable, I may try it
[05:34] <intelikey> k i'll take your word for it.
[05:36] <intelikey> i just fired 4 times with a 12Ga #6 shot at a bird and still he flys.... i must have lost it............
[05:37] <Morrissey> haha! That tremulous broke my X session :)
[05:37] <Morrissey>  Any other ideas of fun & free 3d games for nix?
[05:38] <intelikey> did you check the tome ?
[05:38] <intelikey> the gametome that is.
[05:39] <Morrissey> intelikey, I think you gave me a bad link
[05:39] <intelikey> possable.  google can streighten that out tho.
[05:40] <Morrissey> jepp, thats my first hit as well
[05:41] <instructor> Boson?
[05:41] <instructor> !games | Morrissey
[05:41] <ubotu> Morrissey: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:41] <intelikey> http://lwn.net/1998/1112/gametome.html
[05:43] <intelikey> or then again .....
[05:44] <Morrissey> have you tried americas army?
[05:44] <Morrissey> hehe
[05:44] <Morrissey> intelikey, thanks anyways )
[05:44] <intelikey> Morrissey http://www.linuxgames.com
[05:45] <Morrissey> thanks!
[05:45] <intelikey> you've been there ?
[05:46] <Morrissey> where? In the army?
[05:46] <intelikey> that site ^
[05:46] <intelikey> nm
[05:49] <kdefrysk> planeshift is a great game also running on linux
[05:49] <kdefrysk> http://www.planeshift.it/
[05:50] <kdefrysk> second life also runs on linux now actually (beta)
[05:50] <instructor> We need an ubuntu games team
[05:50] <instructor> Would so turn people around
[05:51] <kdefrysk> http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin.torrent
[05:51] <kdefrysk> hmz , does not work
[05:53] <shape> hy guys
[05:53] <Kim^J> Hey
[05:54] <shape> i've just put a new user
[05:54] <instructor> Is there a community group for Kubuntu wallpapers?
[05:54] <shape> but when i open a new session with the new user it requires me to change root psw
[05:54] <intelikey> !kdelook
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdelook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <shape> how can i add a simple user?
[05:54] <kdefrysk> there is a kubuntu artwork section
[05:55] <intelikey> shape adduser ?
[05:55] <shape> yes
[05:55] <intelikey> useradd
[05:55] <shape> i tryed
[05:55] <intelikey> !sudo
[05:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:55] <intelikey> useradd --help
[05:55] <shape> but when i try to log in with the nes user it requires me to change root pswd
[05:56] <shape> i want to add a simple user not a super user
[05:56] <intelikey> not root passwd.  userpasswd
[05:56] <kdefrysk> try kuser
[05:56] <kdefrysk> and see if its fixable
[05:56] <intelikey> sudo passwd 'username'
[05:56] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:57] <Kim^J> slow-motion: Hey there.
[05:57] <intelikey> shape you can't add a "super user"  that is root.   you can add a user   and if you wish you can make them root jr.  but you can't add another "root".   errr if you do it breaks things.
[05:58] <slow-motion> hi Kim^J
[05:58] <Kim^J> slow-motion: So what's up with you?
[05:58] <slow-motion> nothing. I'm just at home
[05:58] <kjelderg_> are there any baldur's gate-style games for *nix?
[05:59] <intelikey> mabe add the -m to the useradd to creat the home dir.
[05:59] <Kim^J> Why not use adduser and all you have to type is the name and pass?
[05:59] <intelikey> hehhe s/topes/types/
[06:00] <kdefrysk> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#useradd
[06:00] <intelikey> Kim^J passwords added that way are saved in your .bash_history file   :)
[06:00] <kdefrysk> gentoo has great docs
[06:01] <intelikey> Kim^J and adduser was my "first" sujestion.
[06:01] <Kim^J> intelikey: Oh...
[06:01] <Kim^J> Hmm.. Well.. There's no  one that can look in my .bash_history :D
[06:01] <Kim^J> All the other users are chrooted... :D
[06:02] <sizzam> im trying to add a second panel to the top of the screen.  i added the panel and moved it to the top, but i cant figure out how to control the size of that panel
[06:03] <Kim^J> sizzam: Big BUG. Restart KDE and login again and it should be working.
[06:03] <hollywoodb> hmmm... I can add panels & resize them no prob
[06:03] <sizzam> thanks Kim^J
[06:03] <Kim^J> Also... Why haven't that bug been fixed? Been in since Breezy.
[06:03] <SortOfThing> what is the value of bogofilter method VS bayesian method?
[06:03] <hollywoodb> SortOfThing: doesn't bogofilter do bayesian filtering?
[06:04] <SortOfThing> dunno
[06:04] <hollywoodb> SortOfThing: it does ;)
[06:04] <intelikey> Kim^J and you added a chrooted user with the adduser command ?    or a chroot adduser    (which makes more sense.)
[06:04] <SortOfThing> Ok. Thanks =^___^=
[06:05] <Kim^J> intelikey: The other users on that PC is chrooted in their homes.
[06:05] <intelikey> k
[06:05] <Kim^J> They can't escape their homes so they can't watch my .bash_history
[06:06] <Kim^J> Does root have a .bash_history ???
[06:06] <Kim^J> Anyone from San Francisco ?
[06:06] <intelikey> escaping a chroot is possable.... just very difficult.  and requires finding an exploit.
[06:06] <spiritz> Kim^J: Yes it does but it won't save what do trigger as 'sudo'
[06:08] <Kim^J> intelikey: I believe that my users aren't really skilled enough to escape their chrooted homes.
[06:08] <intelikey> root's .bash_history would only be writen in a sudo -i  environment or root login
[06:08] <intelikey> Kim^J probably so.
[06:08] <intelikey> note that sudo -i   and su -  are relatively equal
[06:09] <Kim^J> Hmm... If I start a program in screen and then close the ssh connection. Will the program still be on?
[06:09] <Zic> bon :>
[06:10] <spiritz> Kim^J: nope
[06:10] <Kim^J> Not doing CTRL+A+D
[06:10] <intelikey> Kim^J if you detach the screen first.
[06:10] <Kim^J> intelikey: Ok... mm..
[06:10] <Kim^J> Hmm...
[06:10] <spiritz> Kim^J: There was a google summer of code projet that should lead to what you are asking for... maybe in next or n+1 Xorg release
[06:10] <spiritz> Kim^J: sorry, I'm talking about GUI app, not terminal app
[06:11] <Kim^J> spiritz: Ok... I was thinking of Irssi.
[06:11] <Guardian> re
[06:11] <Guardian> hmm i tried to launch synergy server as part of /etc/rc.local but nothing happens, any hint please ?
[06:12] <intelikey> Kim^J you can ssh into a box run screen then open anything and detach the screen and exit ssh   ssh back in and reattach the running screen    man screen
[06:13] <Kim^J> intelikey: That I know. I wonder if I skip detaching will the program still be running then?
[06:13] <intelikey> that's also one reason i don't like screen.    more fun for hackers/script kiddies.
[06:13] <Xal2> Hi
[06:13] <guglielf> guys any idea on a good website downloader?
[06:13] <intelikey> Kim^J no.
[06:13] <Xal2> I'm having problems with partitioning my drive in setup.
[06:13] <Xal2> Setup only sees one drive with no partitions, but my drive has the proper partitions setup for Linux.
[06:13] <rag> please somebody know about unattended install with kickstart and alternate cd?
[06:13] <rag> hello *
[06:14] <Kim^J> guglielf: You wanna download a site?
[06:14] <guglielf> yep
[06:14] <Xal2> I get critical error during ped_disk_new
[06:14] <intelikey> guglielf wget
[06:14] <intelikey> or aget
[06:14] <Kim^J> guglielf: That you can't do.
[06:14] <guglielf> mmm ok
[06:14] <Kim^J> You can only download the code that the server parsed to you.
[06:14] <rag> i'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd
[06:15] <intelikey> Kim^J you can't ?
[06:15] <guglielf> i was thinking about something similar to teleport under win
[06:15] <Xal2> Any idea why Linux isn't seeing my partitions in setup when it saw them just fine in my previous Kubuntu installation?
[06:15] <intelikey> oh nm i follow.
[06:15] <instructor> !kget
[06:15] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[06:15] <guglielf> right
[06:15] <Kim^J> intelikey: No. Using wget to download a site would only give you the code parsed by the server.
[06:15] <guglielf> kget
[06:15] <rag> ubotu: do you know ? :)
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you know ? :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <rag> ubotu: hello ubotu ! :)
[06:15] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:16] <intelikey> Kim^J said i followed.  but basicly that is the site.   site minus the os and other controling software.
[06:16] <Kim^J> intelikey: Hmm... If the site is using PHP it's very useless. :D
[06:16] <Kim^J> A dude of mine tryed to wget a php script :D
[06:17] <instructor> bah just comile hello from source
[06:17] <Kim^J> Was kinda funny when he only got the code that was created by the server. :D
[06:17] <Zarephath> !restricted
[06:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <intelikey> aget -R url would get every thing you have permission to access....   but as you pointed out not the controling apps/code
[06:19] <intelikey> apsent!       @ food !
[06:19] <intelikey> b
[06:21] <ehird> so who here MANUALLY compiles code? In that they use ed to read the code and replace it with the binary data manually using your brain to work it out
[06:22] <ehird> instructor: yay!
[06:24] <Kim^J> ehird: Isn't that kinda useless?
[06:24] <ehird> Kim^J: it makes all binarys manually optimised!
[06:24] <Kim^J> Well.. Ofcourse. :D
[06:24] <guglielf> found one website downloader: http://www.httrack.com/
[06:24] <ehird> since I know how to convert 500 languages into binary using my brain i might as well use the best text editor ever, ed, to do my stuff!
[06:24] <ehird> guglielf: that's a windows app
[06:24] <guglielf> don't know if it works with oho though
[06:24] <guglielf> php
[06:25] <ehird> hah pjp
[06:25] <ehird> *php
[06:25] <guglielf> it works in linux also
[06:25] <guglielf> free software gpled
[06:25] <trappist> guglielf: sudo apt-get install httrack
[06:25] <trappist> !httrack
[06:25] <ubotu> httrack: Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.40.4-1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:27] <guglielf> trappist: tnx
[06:27] <instructor> KDE takes up 300 Megs?
[06:27] <Kim^J> instructor: Maybe.
[06:27] <Kim^J> It's a DE.
[06:27] <trappist> ehird: why bother with the code in the first place?  just crank out the binary using the supercoder2000 ( http://linuxkungfu.org/images/fun/geek/?image=37 ) and you're done
[06:28] <ehird> trappist: pff, i work at lower level than 0s and 1s, but that is how i write code! but i can't compile x that way!
[06:29] <instructor> I just aptitude removed kdelib4c2a and it freed up 354 megs
[06:29] <ehird> ... imagine installing gentoo that way
[06:29] <trappist> ehird: I'd get cramps
[06:30] <guglielf> bye guys, nice day/night to you all
[06:31] <kay> hello where can i find the kernel config file?
[06:31] <instructor> guglielf:  and to you
[06:31] <trappist> kay: for the running kernel, /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[06:32] <intelikey> what happened to  wall  ????  it no longer prints to my gui  even for root ?
[06:32] <intelikey> also only to tty1 if tty[1-4]  are owned by same user
[06:33] <kay> trappist: thx for fas answer and good help :D
[06:33] <instructor> what about write?
[06:33] <trappist> or talk
[06:34] <instructor> talk is borked in Ubuntu
[06:35] <instructor> the maintainer is still using inet.d and ubuntu has dispensed with that package
[06:37] <intelikey> trappist i sued to do that, but i lost the hey stack i stored my magnetic needles in.....
[06:38] <trappist> I just make new ones out of old floppy drives
[06:38] <intelikey> speeking of hay.  hay shortage this year.  cattle prices plumit accordingly.    possable beef shortage next spring ?
[06:39] <intelikey> or !offtopic  :)
[06:40] <brett> Hello all
[06:41] <brett> I am the IT guy at a real estate office and i am considering making the computers there dual boot to Windows and Linux
[06:41] <Kim^J> brett: Just Linux. Not Windows.
[06:41] <scott_w|lappy> brett: i agree with Kim^J
[06:41] <brett> The MLX website they use is built for IE is the problem
[06:41] <scott_w|lappy> winetools
[06:41] <brett> it will not let you use other browsers
[06:42] <scott_w|lappy> winetools lets you run IE in linux
[06:42] <brett> yeah i am trying to see if it will work with wine
[06:42] <intelikey> ie for linux ?
[06:42] <Kim^J> brett: Rewrite and do it right.
[06:42] <scott_w|lappy> intelikey: it sounds wrong i know
[06:42] <brett> well i cant go all windows the realtors will freak
[06:42] <brett> is there any browsers that mimik IE? so i dont need to use wine?
[06:42] <Kim^J> Convince them that Linux is so much better.
[06:43] <Kim^J> brett: Konqueror.
[06:43] <brett> hmm
[06:43] <brett> i am curious
[06:43] <brett> let me try
[06:43] <instructor> brett: Note that it is NOT IE so I doubt it will work
[06:43] <intelikey> but doesnt M$ make an ie for linux ?
[06:43] <brett> instructor: yeah i know...but worth a try
[06:44] <trappist> intelikey: they used to make one for "unix" but not anymore
[06:44] <instructor> http://www.msfirefox.com
[06:44] <Kim^J> intelikey: You think they would give away their precious code to the evil Linux market?
[06:44] <GnarusLeo> f.eks when I want to play Enemy Terrotiry (or other GL full screen games) it cant set my resolution correctly (So everythings blurry) because I have a widescreen res .. how to fix this?
[06:44] <intelikey> trappist oh ok.  i'm only 5 or 6 years behind the times....  that will remain unchanged as long as time stands still.
[06:46] <brett> IE just downloaded....i am trying it now
[06:46] <trappist> there's also "ies4linux" which is several versions of ie put together to run in wine
[06:47] <brett> IE would not install
[06:48] <trappist> brett: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[06:48] <brett> trappist: thanks
[06:49] <brett> trappist: lol... the site gives you a IE like browser then requests that you do not use IE to view their page :-) use firefox
[06:49] <trappist> brett: it's not an ie-like browser... it's ie... x3
[06:49] <brett> trappist: huh?
[06:50] <intelikey>    IEs4Linux is the simpler way to have Microsoft Internet Explorer running
[06:50] <intelikey>    on Linux (or any OS running Wine).
[06:50] <intelikey> brett thats from that url ^
[06:50] <larss0n> can someone please help me install the latest version of Java ?
[06:51] <intelikey> !sun-java
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <intelikey> !sun-jre
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <rag> i'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd
[06:51] <trappist> larss0n: enable multiverse repository.  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre (iirc)
[06:52] <brett> is ubontu feeling better?
[06:52] <intelikey>   yeah i short changed the name *5-jre
[06:52] <intelikey> brett yes
[06:52] <intelikey> netsplit is solved for now..
[06:52] <brett> huh?
[06:53] <rag> intelikey: hello how are you! is for me?
[06:53] <steve__> ca parle francais jespere icit :)0
[06:53] <intelikey> brett that's what was wrong with ubotu the other day (yestergo)  it was net split.
[06:53] <rag> intelikey: i'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd
[06:53] <brett> oh
[06:54] <trappist> !fr | steve__
[06:54] <ubotu> steve__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:54] <intelikey> rag what network card do you have ?
[06:54] <intelikey> !wifi
[06:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:54] <brett> someone just said he was sick... i was curious how a bot could get sick ;-)
[06:54] <steve__> TKS ubotu ! :)
[06:54] <brett> how do you register your name on these channels?
[06:55] <intelikey> brett hehhe part of himself was missing ....  :)
[06:55] <trappist> brett: /msg nickserv help
[06:55] <sebastian_> hi
[06:55] <intelikey> brett you register with nickserv   /msg nickserv help register
[06:55] <brett> thanks
[06:55] <hosky> hi, i have a rare problem ._. when i plug the ac adapter the cpu usage switch between 0%->100%->0%->100%....
[06:55] <sebastian_> args
[06:55] <hosky> i make a top but don't see any process
[06:55] <hosky> http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sreencl5.png
[06:56] <sebastian_> hosky: what about ps -ef?
[06:56] <hosky> 1 seg
[06:56] <hosky> UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
[06:56] <sebastian_> probably the power management
[06:56] <sebastian_> ?
[06:56] <hosky> don't see the cpu usage
[06:58] <klerfayt> http://pastebin.com/826763 I have problems with dvd shotcut created on the desktop as cd0
[06:58] <hosky> now, i stoped apmd (adavcen power....) and acpid
[06:58] <shadowhywind> hay all, i was wondering if there was a way from a konsole to open a new konsole and run a command? if that makes sense
[06:59] <ehird> eh
[06:59] <ehird> why doesn't xterm find any of the fonts i set
[06:59] <klerfayt> shadowhywind: konsole
[06:59] <scott_w|lappy> shadowhywind: konsole "command"
[06:59] <brett> cool thanks guys im outa here
[06:59] <shadowhywind> i tried that and that didn't work
[06:59] <ehird> shadowhywind: "echo "command" | konsole"
[07:00] <intelikey> shadowhywind konsole command
[07:00] <trappist> shadowhywind: konsole -e command
[07:00] <klerfayt> shadowhywind: use tabs instead
[07:00] <shadowhywind> i know tabs would work, but thats not what i am trying for hehe
[07:01] <intelikey> rxvt command
[07:01] <ehird> any ideas about my xterm prob?
[07:01] <intelikey> xterm command
[07:01] <ehird> err
[07:01] <cryptonic> iv made kde the default guoi on ubuntu how do i revert back to gnome?
[07:01] <ehird> that isn't my problem :)
[07:02] <klerfayt> ehird: that is because in edgy xorg,conf fontpaths are broken
[07:02] <ehird> why doesn't xterm find any of the fonts i set <-- quote me
[07:02] <ehird> i'm doing -fn "Bitstream Vera Mono"
[07:02] <ehird> i tried -fn "serif" too as a test
[07:02] <intelikey> ehird that wasn't to you.    but to your question possably xterm is looking in the wrong path for the fonts ?
[07:02] <MenZa> cryptonic: open gdm, choose 'Session' and select GNOME
[07:03] <ehird> intelikey: <noob>where would i change this?</noob>
[07:03] <intelikey> ehird not sure.
[07:03] <klerfayt> ehird: kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <ehird> klerfayt: your gui text editors speak a language i do not understand! /me does sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead
[07:04] <ehird> okay, found the paths. where are the fonts really stored?
[07:05] <intelikey> ehird best luck i've had with setting xterm is alt right click on an xterm   or better still write a `/.Xresources file and define all the terminal stuff in there.
[07:05] <cryptonic> i want to make gnome totally the default as in im going throufgh the kde logon screen now and i dont want to use the kde version any more
[07:05] <Alter-Ego> is mp3 support and libdvdcss bieng burried or am i not getting the right repository ?
[07:06] <cryptonic> MenZa : i want to make gnome totally the default as in im going throufgh the kde logon screen now and i dont want to use the kde version any more
[07:06] <ehird> i wish there was a tabbed xterm :P
[07:06] <klerfayt> ehird: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-core/+bug/71173
[07:06] <MenZa> cryptonic: in Gnome, that's Settings -> Login Screen (choose GDM in one of those menus rather than kdm)
[07:07] <intelikey> ehird mxterm
[07:07] <intelikey> !mxterm
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mxterm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <longsword33733> wow
[07:07] <longsword33733> wine doesnt take any time at all to install...
[07:07] <ehird> E: Couldn't find package mxterm
[07:07] <longsword33733> thx guys
[07:08] <longsword33733> u were a lot of help
[07:08] <trappist> Alter-Ego: sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[07:08] <trappist> !mp3 | Alter-Ego
[07:08] <ubotu> Alter-Ego: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <trappist> that too
[07:08] <intelikey> ehird sorry had the wrong app.   mrxvt_0.4.2-1_i386.deb
[07:08] <trappist> especially check out RestrictedFormats
[07:09] <intelikey> was thinking xterm  but it's rxvt
[07:09] <intelikey> !mrxvt
[07:09] <ubotu> mrxvt: lightweight multi-tabbed X terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 324 kB
[07:09] <ehird> yes, but that's not xterm is it?
[07:09] <ehird> it's totally different
[07:09] <intelikey> said that already  ^
[07:11] <intelikey> actually most of the differances are cosmetic.   but that's argumenitive
[07:11] <ehird> well, the only difference in 99% of terminals are cosmetics, mm
[07:12] <Digital_Pioneer> How can I crosscompile for windows?
[07:14] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:15] <rag> intelikey: my interest is on unattended install, via kickstart with alternate cd it can't download with wget ks file but it not download by network
[07:15] <rag> intelikey: realtek 8136
[07:17] <bot12gb> #kubuntu.es
[07:17] <larss0n> ;l
[07:17] <larss0n> 'l
[07:17] <larss0n> k
[07:17] <larss0n> l
[07:17] <larss0n> pk
[07:18] <larss0n> Sorry for that :S wright in the wrong window
[07:18] <bot12gb> kubuntu spanish please?
[07:18] <fdoving> !es
[07:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:18] <rag> bot12gb: kubuntu-es :)
[07:19] <rag> intelikey: do you know if is possible load a module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?
[07:19] <rag> intelikey: or need i a etherboot disk?
[07:20] <rag> intelikey: the problem is a laptop, and dont have floppy :(
[07:25] <Rooster_> Hello?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:27] <intelikey> rag modprobe module-name
[07:27] <trappist> larss0n: you seriously need to fix that
[07:27] <larss0n> sorry :(
[07:27] <intelikey> larss0n sudo killall name    sudo kill pid    ?
[07:27] <rag> intelikey: i know it but not work con alternate cd
[07:27] <larss0n> i dont have anny rubber nearby
[07:28] <trappist> larss0n: what is a "secret process"
[07:28] <intelikey> rag sorry i don't have the alternate cd   so i can only speculate there.
[07:29] <rag> intelikey: which module for 8136? uhmm r8136?
[07:29] <larss0n> you know, kind of like when your mom is under your bed looking at you when u surfing on porn
[07:29] <intelikey> trappist i assumed it was one he wasn't willing to reveal
[07:29] <ehird> larss0n: i see.
[07:30] <ehird> others: is there an easy way to restart my x session without losing the state of my apps?
[07:30] <trappist> ehird: not yet
[07:30] <trappist> actually probably never
[07:30] <ehird> darn
[07:30] <ehird> my xterm depends on it! :<
[07:30] <trappist> ehird: that's what nohup and screen are for!
[07:31] <trappist> (especially screen)
[07:31] <ehird> no, more like i fixed xorg.conf so i can use fonts in xterm :)
[07:31] <scott_w|lappy> ehird: you could try writing the current X state to disk then reloading it when X starts... but that would require you to rewrite X
[07:31] <scott_w|lappy> :P
[07:31] <ehird> :P
[07:31] <scott_w|lappy> though KDE saves the state of programs to a certain extent
[07:32] <ehird> yeah cept i disabled that since it was horrible on startup
[07:32] <scott_w|lappy> haha, yeah it is
[07:32] <ehird> ``Do you think I restarted for FUN or something?!"
[07:32] <ideasrex> i have a problem with my kubuntu edgy doesn't see other partitions of my new hard disk, does anyone know solution to this, please?
[07:32] <Ace2016> ehird: restarting is only half the fun
[07:32] <Alter-Ego> i am getting real choppy playback and scrolling in kubuntu
[07:33] <Ace2016> Alter-Ego: what app?
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> firefox, kaffiene, etc.
[07:33] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: what do you mean it cant see them
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> scrolling is real choppy
[07:33] <Ace2016> Alter-Ego: playback of video or audio?
[07:33] <ehird> xterm: "./firstlinuxvirus-NOTETHISISNOTAVIRUS" user: "crap. *restarts*" kde: "*restarts virus for you*"
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> i have had kubuntu edgy on this machine before, and not had this problem
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> video
[07:33] <Ace2016> Alter-Ego: try mplayer and try opera they tend to be faster
[07:34] <intelikey> ehird what virus ?
[07:34] <ideasrex> BonBonThejon: earlier it wasn't problem with my old hard disk but now it doesn't list anything in my /media
[07:34] <ehird> intelikey: ...
[07:35] <ideasrex> it is WD 250 g, earlier it was maxtor if it is of relevance
[07:35] <larss0n> i am runnigs kubuntu on a pentium 1 computer
[07:35] <larss0n> cool ha
[07:35] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: /media should have directories for cd-roms and ipods and such
[07:35] <BonBonTheJon> larss0n: you using KDE on that?
[07:36] <scott_w|lappy> there's no need for /media imo
[07:36] <ideasrex> strange earlier it listed my partitions :S
[07:36] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: did you reinstall linux?
[07:36] <ideasrex> but where is my hard disk then, how can I access my data?
[07:37] <ideasrex> yes i reinstalled linux and windows
[07:37] <intelikey> larson9999 ah anothere p1 user.
[07:37] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:37] <intelikey> !fuse
[07:37] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:37] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: run "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"
[07:38] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon -l ^  ?>
[07:38] <ideasrex> thanks a lot i will try now
[07:38] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: hey, that works much better
[07:39] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: you need to run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" to show your partitions
[07:39] <ideasrex> i just ran fdisk /dev/hda
[07:39] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: it probably didn't run if you didnt do sudo
[07:39] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon also the device is not needed when sudo fdisk -l   is called.
[07:39] <ideasrex> and it said something about "cylinders for this disk is set to 30401,....
[07:40] <cryptonic> can someone help me get beryl successully working on ubuntu?
[07:40] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: ok, get out of that and just run "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:40] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon not that there is anything wrong with limiting it to one device mind you......
[07:40] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:40] <larss0n> how can i use adept again ?
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: yeah, not specifiying probably is better since it might not be hda
[07:41] <intelikey> :)
[07:41] <ideasrex> BonBonTheJon: thanks now it shows all of my partitions it seems
[07:41] <cryptonic> the status bar with the close maximize and minimize doesnt seem to work properly, as in everything else works but that
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: what filesystems are you using
[07:41] <Ace2016> hi all
[07:41] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:41] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:42] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:42] <Ace2016> anyone here know a good podcasting app?
[07:42] <trappist> larss0n: dude for real.
[07:42] <larss0n> SPRRY
[07:42] <larss0n> SORRY
[07:42] <larss0n> *
[07:42] <ideasrex> ntfs for both windows and data paritions
[07:42] <trappist> larss0n: please identify the problem and fix it.
[07:42] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: ubuntu can read ntfs, and writing is in the works
[07:42] <intelikey> larss0n pgrep dpkg   to see if anything is using it.
[07:42] <ideasrex> i would be happy if it would be possible to adjust just to access and read from this partitions
[07:43] <cryptonic> the status bar with the close maximize and minimize doesnt seem to work properly, as in everything else works but that
[07:43] <Dr_willis> You should be able to read a ntfs partition easially enough
[07:43] <larss0n> Nothing is using ITT!
[07:43] <trappist> cryptonic: you mean the titlebars on applications?
[07:43] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: ok, now can you pastebin /etc/fstab
[07:43] <rag> larss0n: make sure you dont have opened other management software, like synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, automatix, etc
[07:43] <cryptonic> trappist : yes
[07:43] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[07:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:43] <cryptonic> in beryl that is
[07:44] <Dr_willis> my fstab entry for NTFS --> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:44] <larss0n> The problem became a problem when i needed too close down the java install, because it was lag
[07:44] <trappist> cryptonic: oh.  yeah last time I tried (it was compiz) that stuff wasn't working so hot in kde.
[07:44] <intelikey> anyone know off hand the "command" to open a new tab in konsole ?
[07:44] <james> hello having problem with alsa any helpers available?
[07:44] <rag> intelikey: do you know if is possible load a network module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?
[07:44] <larss0n> The problem became a problem when i needed too close down the java install, because it was lag
[07:44] <rag> intelikey: sorry :)
[07:45] <rag> do you know if is possible load a network module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> larss
[07:45] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-N intelikey  from what i am reading in the konsole shortcuts settings
[07:45] <larss0n> Ja ?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> larss
[07:45] <james> i am having problems with alsa kaffeine and amarok cant inialize drivers any suggestions was working now it is not?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> grrr
[07:45] <larss0n> yes ?
[07:45] <larss0n> What ?
[07:45] <intelikey> rag i don't have the alternate cd.       but   sudo modprobe "module-name"   should work on any booted linux.
[07:45] <ideasrex> i ran pastebin /etc/fstab and it says bash: pastebin: command not found
[07:45] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin | ideasrex
[07:45] <ubotu> ideasrex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <Dr_willis> ideasrex,  he ment POST it to a pastebin web site. :)
[07:46] <Neuron-DK> where does one go with suggestions for kpdf/okular?
[07:46] <intelikey> !paste
[07:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <ideasrex> oh ok :)
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> larss0n, log out, then log back in, see if that clears it, otherwise you have a broken package that needs fixing
[07:46] <rag> intelikey: yes i know my problem is which is name module? for realtek 8136,
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> !broken
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <james> alsa question any takers?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[07:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> !adept fix
[07:46] <Dr_willis> L)
[07:46] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:47] <james> ok
[07:47] <larss0n> i think i have a brocken package
[07:47] <rag> intelikey: which are general name for realtek cards, module names , r* , rt*?
[07:47] <intelikey> rag modprobe -l   lists available modules  and google can search better than intelikey can.
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> what's the bot command for fixing adept?
[07:48] <trappist> intelikey: dcop `dcop | grep konsole` konsole newSession
[07:48] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  i never can rember. :) ya mean to remove that apt lock file?
[07:48] <intelikey> rag and  [shift] +[pageup]  scrolls the console  or should i say pages the console.
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis, well I think there is a number of things it suggests
[07:49] <james> the problem seems limited to xine related stuff not the alsa
[07:49] <rag> intelikey: yeah i know, thx
[07:49] <rag> intelikey: i need a network module generic, do you know? i try it with pcnet32 but no...
[07:50] <wilman> what is kpse tools?
[07:50] <intelikey> trappist thanks,  and can you help rag get a eth card working.  i'm network illiterate.
[07:50] <bech> bonsoir tout le monde
[07:50] <james> it just crashed kaffeine and amarok but vlc and mplayer work fine
[07:50] <rag> intelikey: thx intelikey!!! a lot
[07:51] <intelikey> np
[07:51] <trappist> rag: catch me up, I haven't been paying attention :)
[07:51] <stalinser> el canal espaol donde esta?
[07:51] <trappist> rag: have you tried rtl8150?
[07:51] <BonBonTheJon> !es | stalinser
[07:51] <ubotu> stalinser: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:51] <rag> stalinser: kubuntu-es
[07:52] <rag> trappist: no, i try
[07:52] <bech> quelqu'un peut m'aider  ? je n'arrive pas a avoir de son.
[07:52] <stalinser> gracias :D
[07:52] <BonBonTheJon> !fr | bech
[07:52] <ubotu> bech: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:52] <trappist> rag: or 8139too
[07:52] <trappist> !fr | bech
[07:52] <trappist> oh too slow
[07:52] <rag> trappist: i tell you, i need wake up my ethernet card, because i try install with alternate cd and kickstart installation file
[07:52] <BonBonTheJon> :)
[07:52] <rag> trappist: for unanttend install
[07:53] <intelikey> trappist works great.  really grateful.   been kicking that around for days.   :)
[07:53] <trappist> rag: I'm not very familiar with that environment
[07:53] <trappist> intelikey: dcop is pretty great.  only thing, I'm not sure if that'll work right if you have more than one konsole window open
[07:53] <rag> trappist: the problem is: alternate cd always detect ethernet card
[07:53] <trappist> intelikey: but if you can figure out how to get the current konsole session other than `dcop | grep konsole`
[07:54] <BonBonTheJon> !opera
[07:54] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:54] <intelikey> trappist i can ppid it for that.
[07:54] <rag> trappist: on this laptop it not detect eth0, eth1, wifi.. nothing!
[07:54] <trappist> rag: you're not using the alternet cd?
[07:54] <trappist> intelikey: kdcop is very helpful figuring out what to send the calls to, what calls are available etc.
[07:55] <rag> trappist: i pulse ctrl+alt+f2 and try modprobe, already i tried with pcnet32, r8169, 8139too, etc
[07:55] <rag> trappist: yeah i use alternate cd
[07:55] <trappist> rag: ok what happens when you do those things
[07:55] <trappist> rag: 'no such device' errors?
[07:55] <rag> trappist: i try modprobe and module is loaded
[07:55] <rfarias> hi
[07:56] <rfarias> my first excursion in Kubuntu XD
[07:56] <trappist> rag: then can you try like 'ifconfig eth0 <ip address> up'?
[07:56] <rag> trappist: with lsmod i see modules loaded :) but ifconfig not return me nothing
[07:56] <rag> trappist: no error no results :(
[07:57] <trappist> rag: what about 'ifconfig -a'
[07:57] <intelikey> dcop `dcop | grep konsole-$PPID` konsole newSession  <--- only opens for the existing konsole window.
[07:57] <intelikey> trappist ^
[07:57] <rag> trappist: all , appear only lo
[07:57] <trappist> intelikey: dcop konsole-$PPID konsole newSession
[07:57] <rag> trappist: all , appear only loopback
[07:58] <trappist> rag: remind me what card this is - I'll see if I can find out what driver it wants
[07:58] <BonBonTheJon> hi rfarias
[07:59] <rag> trappist: realtek 8136
[07:59] <rag> trappist: but it say "Unknown device 8136"
[07:59] <rag> trappist: it say my lspci :)
[08:00] <deema_> anybody here use Prism54 islsm?
[08:00] <rag> trappist: now, i put again ifconfig eth0 192....
[08:00] <rag> trappist: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[08:01] <beerhungry> can someone help me, i can't find a driver for printer CANON PIXMA ip3300
[08:01] <beerhungry> ?
[08:01] <trappist> rag: toshiba laptop?
[08:01] <rag> trappist: every time i tried with differente modprobe, i change to ctrl+alt+f1 and on install try detect network hardware again,
[08:01] <fowlduck> how do I change the default group of a user so that all files and directories they create belong to that user?
[08:01] <rag> trappist: but without exist
[08:01] <rag> trappist: yeaaaahh, oh irqpoll parameter kernel?
[08:01] <rag> trappist: o yeah, i forget it! :)
[08:02] <rittsel> beerhungry: sorry, in a hurry and i cant find it right now.
[08:03] <trappist> rag: hard to tell from googling, but I think support for that card was added in the 2.6.18 kernels
[08:03] <rag> trappist: is possible with irqpoll works for me :) i tryingg...
[08:03] <ehird> is there a way to make xterm always start as xterm -bg black -fg white?
[08:03] <rag> trappist: not is possible, last week i install on same laptop
[08:03] <rag> trappist: other laptop , same model
[08:05] <trappist> rag: the same cd worked on the same model, different laptop??
[08:05] <jdfellow> hello i have question about the sound server
[08:05] <rag> trappist: yeah
[08:05] <rag> trappist: alternate cd i386
[08:05] <trappist> rag: the first thing to investigate then is whether you have a hardware problem
[08:05] <rag> trappist: rag to crazy now...
[08:05] <rag> trappist: :)
[08:06] <trappist> rag: see if there's anything interesting in the output of `dmesg`
[08:06] <rag> trappist: my fingers are in X :)
[08:07] <rag> trappist: detecting network hardaware...
[08:07] <rag> trappist: :( fail
[08:07] <rag> trappist: failed
[08:07] <deema_> anybody here use Prism54 islsm?
[08:07] <trappist> rag: it really sounds like a hardware problem
[08:08] <ehird> no ideas?
[08:08] <jdfellow> if the alsa sound system fails is there a way to restart it without restarting the computer or better yet keep the sound system from dying?
[08:09] <resmo_> re
[08:09] <rag> trappist: uhmm look it... it appear me: "No Ethernet card was detected, but a FireWire interface is present. It's possible, though unlikely, that with the right FireWire hardware connected to it, this could be your primary Ethernet interface. Do you intend to use FireWire Ethernet?
[08:09] <rag> trappist: uhmm how to disable FireWire on boot kernel parameters?
[08:10] <trappist> ehird: check out /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
[08:10] <trappist> rag: don't know
[08:10] <trappist> ehird: or ~/.Xdefaults
[08:13] <rag> trappist: ok thanks a lot
[08:14] <trappist> ehird: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200012/answerman.html#q1
[08:17] <wilman> can someone help me with kguitar
[08:18] <ehird> why do i get Cannot get working directory from sudo in xterm? it works tho
[08:19] <ehird> hmm, ruby apps trip on it too complaining about  no "getcwd"
[08:19] <intelikey> i added this function to my .bashrc   function newtab { dcop $(dcop | grep konsole-$PPID) konsole newSession }     works like a  ibm office jet.  :)
[08:20] <intelikey> back later.
[08:28] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:31] <sandeep> phew..
[08:31] <sandeep> first step into linux  world
[08:31] <BluesKaj> splittsvelle again
[08:31] <BluesKaj> welcome to linux ! :)
[08:32] <sandeep> hehe! Thank you :)
[08:32] <sandeep> jezzz....the amount of applciations u get bundled............phew..
[08:32] <BluesKaj> it takes some work and concentration , but it's free !
[08:32] <sandeep> good stuff i must say
[08:32] <BluesKaj> cool , glad you like it
[08:32] <sandeep> now if only i can play DVD's in this thing
[08:32] <sandeep> lol
[08:33] <sandeep> i have heard kaffeine before
[08:33] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[08:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:33] <Sutoka> sandeep: i think the dvd stuff is in universe
[08:33] <sandeep> hmmm....
[08:34] <sandeep> that xine or whatever...it doesnt work good
[08:34] <sandeep> at all
[08:34] <sandeep> i think the codecs have been stripped
[08:34] <sandeep> goota instaal them manually i guess
[08:34] <Sutoka> yeah you have to add them through those guides i believe
[08:34] <sandeep> think u  r right
[08:35] <sandeep> suse to kubuntu
[08:35] <Bubba_Gump> seems a lot of people are coming to kubuntu
[08:35] <sandeep> hmmm...i used to use Suse
[08:35] <sandeep> but I like kubuntu
[08:36] <sandeep> xandros is good but....their packaging format is different
[08:36] <Sutoka> well i haven't decided for sure yet, but suse's been going really down hill since 10.0 (10.1 shipped with a broken package manager)
[08:37] <sandeep> wow...broken package manager
[08:37] <sandeep> lol
[08:37] <sandeep> thats funny...........
[08:37] <BluesKaj> yes, i used suse 10.1 (Yast sucks) fedora core5 (hardware probs) ...edgy has so far been worth the effort :)
[08:37] <Sutoka> yep, they decided to make an entirely new one and ditch the one they've used for years that worked
[08:37] <sandeep> i find fedora really buggy
[08:38] <BluesKaj> fedora is frustrating
[08:38] <Bubba_Gump> my kubuntu box just purrs..
[08:38] <Sutoka> i hated yum in fedora
[08:38] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[08:39] <Sutoka> i used apt4rpm, but never used an deb/apt based distro for more than a little bit (last time i tried kubuntu it was horribly broken)
[08:39] <sandeep> ok wht do u guys think abt Mac OS X?
[08:40] <Sutoka> im not a fan of it (loathe it actually) but a lot of people seem to like it for some reason
[08:40] <Bubba_Gump> heh
[08:40] <Bubba_Gump> all about image :)
[08:41] <Sutoka> its so much about image for them that they hid the kernel dumps with a little friendly 'please restart the computer' picture when the kernel dies
[08:41] <Bubba_Gump> hah!
[08:42] <Sutoka> i made that screen come up a couple times at an apple store... didn't know till later that they'd replaced the kernel dumps to the screen with that image
[08:43] <Bubba_Gump> sounds 'user-friendly'
[08:43] <Sutoka> yes, if you don't want your user to know that the machine just died in flames
[08:43] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:43] <Sutoka> i thought it had maybe installed updates in the background and wanted me to reboot for them
[08:44] <Bubba_Gump> heh, ooh no :)
[08:44] <BluesKaj> well , we all knowe whats wrong with MS ...Gates & Windows , but they forgot to close the backdoors :)
[08:45] <sandeep> lol
[08:46] <sandeep> Its all about the registry
[08:46] <sandeep> lol
[08:46] <Sutoka> is there a page anywhere that you can browse/search through a list of packages available in (k)ubuntu? (like you can do with the gentoo-portage.com site for gentoo)
[08:46] <klerfayt> Sutoka: yes
[08:46] <fdoving> Sutoka: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:47] <fdoving> Sutoka: you can also use apt:/ in konqueror
[08:47] <Varjat_by> Hi! I have a TV tuner KWorld PVR-833... I have installed them and can watch tv? but i have a problem with IR remote control for one..
[08:47] <klerfayt> Sutoka: it is also integrated into firefox searchbar
[08:47] <Sutoka> fdoving: im asking because i don't have kubuntu installed currently, and am curious if all the programs i normally use are just an apt-get away or not
[08:48] <Alter-Ego> amaork won't play shoutcast streams ?
[08:48] <klerfayt> fdoving: wow apt:/ is nice
[08:48] <Sutoka> fdoving: the packages.ubuntu.com looks like its exactly what i want
[08:48] <fdoving> klerfayt: it is, needs some graphical/design attention though.
[08:49] <Varjat_by> I read in any how-to, that I try to find my remote control device in output of "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" - but i have no remote control there...
[08:49] <ehird> there's an apt:/
[08:49] <ehird> ?!
[08:49] <Varjat_by> So, how i can fix it?
[08:49] <Sutoka> ehird: yes, its a kio-slave for konqueror and kde
[08:50] <ehird> Sutoka: i approve!
[08:50] <klerfayt> Sutoka: there do I get list of all kio-slaves (man:/ locate:/ apt:/)?
[08:50] <Sutoka> klerfayt: kinfocenter -> protocols
[08:50] <Sutoka> klerfayt: theres a LOT (like sftp, fish, smb, nfs, http, ftp, etc)
[08:52] <klerfayt> Sutoka: this is amazing; I have been on that page in kinfocenter before but never realized that these are kio-slaves that you type into address bar
[08:54] <ehird> why is konq suddenly laggy
[08:54] <klerfayt> ehird: what web page?
[08:54] <rag> hello again :)
[08:54] <ehird> klerfayt: any
[08:55] <ehird> i only have 3 tabs open
[08:55] <joe3k> hall
[08:55] <klerfayt> ehird: apt-get install firefox
[08:55] <rag> on edgy katapult not works , do you know ?
[08:55] <ehird> klerfayt: why the hell would i use a buggy, slow, gtk-based, non-intergrated browser?
[08:55] <klerfayt> ehird: it is faster than konq (at least on my machine)
[08:56] <d_> holas
[08:56] <klerfayt> rag: it works
[08:56] <ehird> klerfayt: you're using gnome aren't you?
[08:56] <Sutoka> ehird: if its a javascript heavy page, that may be the problem (kjs is slow, khtml is very fast)
[08:56] <ehird> Sutoka: no, it's ANY site
[08:56] <rag> klerfayt: no for me, well form a user, my user
[08:56] <klerfayt> ehird: no; I'm kde fan
[08:56] <ehird> it's more changing tabs that happens
[08:56] <ehird> or making a new one
[08:57] <klerfayt> rag: oops you are right it is broken :/
[08:57] <ehird> it frrzes up for about a sec, suddenly
[08:57] <Sutoka> ehird: is your system under load? maybe updatedb is running?
[08:57] <ehird> katapult works fine here
[08:57] <rag> klerfayt: uhm
[08:57] <rag> klerfayt: :)
[08:57] <rag> ehird: where?
[08:57] <rag> ehird: dapper i know
[08:57] <ehird> Sutoka: nope i've closed almost anything but a tes twebrick, konq and konversation+kopete
[08:57] <ehird> rag: edgy
[08:57] <Sutoka> ehird: is your system maybe swapping somehow? (i prefer to check in kinfocenter -> memory)
[08:58] <rag> ehird: how to?
[08:58] <rag> klerfayt: do you know fix it? i tried reinstall but no
[08:59] <ehird> Sutoka: it's swapping but only 45% of physical memory is used, weird
[08:59] <klerfayt> katapult is broken here
[08:59] <paul_> I fresh install of Kubuntu edgy Konqueror cant browse net nor go higher than home in browse directory ,also using google search bar just opens up another instance of Konqueror :/
[08:59] <Sutoka> ehird: i'd bet its cause of the swapping, though it really shouldn't be swapping that much when so much is free
[08:59] <rag> klerfayt: dpkg-reconfigure katapult, is ok this command?
[08:59] <ehird> even more suspicious
[08:59] <ehird> 45% used yet only 6% free?
[08:59] <steveire> Hey. My camera appears to be unsupported. dmesg should show some messages when I plug it in to the usb port, right?
[09:00] <rag> steveire: run lsusb
[09:00] <rag> steveire: and say me you see
[09:00] <steveire> rag: It only shows my mouse. What do you mean say me you see?
[09:00] <ideasrex> could someone review my /etc/fstab error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32364/
[09:00] <Sutoka> ehird: 'application data' in physical memory is the only part thats actually 'using' the ram, disk cache and disk buffers only take up free space and will immediately be cleared if an app needs the space
[09:01] <rag> klerfayt: please can you run dpkg-reconfigure katapult for me, i havent edgy in front of now
[09:02] <rag> steveire: change usb other enty
[09:02] <rag> entry
[09:02] <klerfayt> rag: it is broken still
[09:02] <rag> klerfayt: what?
[09:02] <steveire> rag: I did, no difference
[09:02] <rag> steveire: test it on all , and run lsusb
[09:03] <rag> steveire: yeah , there is a difference :)
[09:03] <klerfayt> rag: alt-space doesn't do nothing and if I alt-f2 katapult doesn't show up also
[09:03] <rag> klerfayt: yeah nothing
[09:04] <steveire> rag. Same silence.
[09:04] <rag> klerfayt: like you have problem and me too, do you want try it solve this together, now i search on google
[09:04] <rag> steveire: which cam?
[09:04] <klerfayt> rag: sure; I'm searching in launchpad
[09:05] <steveire> Canon powershot A710IS It should show a dmesg output anyway, no matter who made it.
[09:05] <rag> steveire: ok i thinking on webcam
[09:05] <steveire> I'll try it on windows later. No time to spend on this right now
[09:05] <rag> steveire: in "other systems" it works
[09:06] <steveire> dunno. It might.
[09:07] <paul_> anyone know if there a known problem with konqueror on edgy ,,it refuses to browse internet and go any higher than my home direcvtory?
[09:07] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: hey
[09:07] <klerfayt> rag: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/katapult/+bug/56918
[09:07] <rag> paul_: run on konsole --> ping www.google.es for example and test your network
[09:08] <rag> klerfayt: solve it?
[09:08] <paul_> I can browse with firefox ok
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> velle: hello
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> can i see those bug reports?
[09:08] <paul_> and obviously ~I am here
[09:08] <trappist> paul_: what happens when you try to browse
[09:09] <rag> paul_: i dont know but konqueror havent these bug
[09:09] <paul_> if I use the google search it just opens up anopther instance of Konqueror
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> PM is a prive message, you type /msg <nick> and you can talk to them directly. People usually request to PM before hand and you can only do it with a registered nick
[09:10] <Ace2016> hi all
[09:10] <Ace2016> i have a font problem
[09:10] <Ace2016> the font is rendered smaller in linux and windows and its messing up my open office documents
[09:10] <Varjat_by> Gays, I need to build kernel with lirc drivers support.. May be you know any how-tos? Or can give any suggestion how I cen get kernel sources?
[09:10] <Ace2016> i need some help fixing it
[09:10] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: some of them are not actually bugs... but worth a look anyway for the developers
[09:11] <ashraf__> hello
[09:11] <rag> klerfayt: can you run : rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc?
[09:12] <trappist> Varjat_by: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:12] <klerfayt> rag: lol I do not have it
[09:12] <rag> klerfayt: problem like katapult version , no?
[09:14] <klerfayt> rag: it is clean edgy install
[09:15] <rag> klerfayt: i dont know how to solve it, and you?
[09:16] <Varjat_by> trappist: image - is it sources!?
[09:16] <klerfayt> rag: I don't really care cause I do not use it :D
[09:18] <rag> klerfayt: me too, but my userfriend use katapult
[09:18] <jcb> hello people
[09:19] <Varjat_by> trappist: adept show me, that linux-image for i386 is alredy installed..
[09:20] <Varjat_by> But /usr/src forled is empty..
[09:22] <trappist> Varjat_by: apt-get source, not apt-get install.
[09:23] <Varjat_by> Oh.. Sorry :)
[09:25] <Grigorgeous> hola gente
[09:27] <emeteo> hi
[09:28] <Grigorgeous> m gustaba mas cuando las instalaciones se hacian en modo consola, por as decirlo. El nuevo mtode de instalar desde un live CD me parece un desperdicio de tiempo
[09:28] <emeteo> how can I select a folder != /home and /media on a collection of amarok?
[09:29] <Varjat_by> trappist: sorry ones again.. I have installed Kubuntu 6.06 from i386 from CD, but i have Athlon 1700+.. May be better download kernel for k7?
[09:29] <trappist> Varjat_by: the kernel *source* will be the same
[09:29] <Varjat_by> Or I will have problems with it compilation and installing?
[09:30] <trappist> Varjat_by: but if you're asking which kernel you should *run*, sure, go with k7
[09:30] <Varjat_by> Yes.. I know what is $(uname -a) mean...
[09:30] <trappist> Varjat_by: you're not likely to notice a difference though
[09:30] <Varjat_by> I want to rebuild kernel for k7 processor..
[09:31] <LjL> yes, the question is *why*?
[09:31] <trappist> Varjat_by: that's really not worth the effort, but you can do it
[09:34] <bLaZeD> Varjat_by, http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.0 that will walk you through building a new kernel
[09:35] <jmichaelx> has anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in kubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.
[09:35] <Varjat_by> So I start apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 - and than I can simply build it (with lirc drivers support) and install without any problems?.. And my kurrent i386 kernel will be simple owerwrited with new k7-kernel?
[09:35] <LjL> and Varjat_by if you google "linux from scratch" you will be able to compile an entire distribution by yourself :P
[09:36] <Zaire> k is there anyway for me to disable the kwallet its very annoying
[09:36] <bLaZeD> Varjat_by, if you dont understand what your doing dont do it....you will only break your system
[09:37] <Varjat_by> Ok, thanks to all
[09:37] <trappist> Varjat_by: it's a whole lot easier to build a kernel from kernel.org sources, but there are howtos on building from ubuntu source
[09:38] <[Relic] > anyone know what the java config file?
[09:38] <trappist> [Relic] : there's no such thing
[09:39] <trappist> [Relic] : you just set environment variables, for example in your ~/.bashrc
[09:39] <[Relic] > there's got to be something that screwes up the text in blackdown version vs normal text in just installing the one from suns site
[09:40] <trappist> [Relic] : it's not a config issue
[09:40] <skreet> Hello has anyone here seen 'Soft lockup on CPU#0' followed by a lockup during boot, intermittantly?
[09:41] <[Relic] > I still need to figure out where it is stored so it stops the wrong behavior
[09:44] <joe3k> heh life is hard
[09:44] <gkjones> just instaled kbuntu and want Universe URL please
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[09:45] <gkjones> hi
[09:45] <luxus> lol kde4 looks funny
[09:45] <joe3k> gkjones: look into /etc/apt/sources.list, it's the same URL as "main", you need only to type "universe" instead of main
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> anybody experienced problems with katapult on Kubuntu 6.06.1? when I try to use it to play smthng in amarok, amarok shows a message "no proper plugin" and an *incorrect, relative* path to the file I was trying to play
[09:46] <joe3k> just had a talk on a forum with a guy saying ubuntu translates to "cannot configure debian"
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: yeah, didn't you know that? :)
[09:47] <skreet> ubuntu translates to "Why the hell should I waste my time configuring a system for the most common settings?
[09:47] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: well i kinda think there's really a bit more difference :)
[09:47] <skreet> +"
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: yeah, the blue-ish look ;) but seriously, I have Debian on my server and Kubuntu on my desktop, both fit-in great and do the job they're ment to be doing
[09:48] <Varjat_by> bLaZeD: I have Expiriens with configuring FreeBSD kernel.. But Kubuntu is my firs Linux-base system.  This works with firefox and used to work with evolution under breezy/dapper.
[09:48] <Zaire> so is there a way to disable the kwallet
[09:48] <cryptom> since the upgrade to edgy, evolution appears on the workspace where it has been started (not the remembered value)
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: who's like that?
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: ah, the guy
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> right :)
[09:49] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: exactly
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: well, I'd *love* to see him configuring anything on Debian
[09:49] <joe3k> so i tried to explain him that ubuntu does little more than just repackage debian stuff and put ubuntu on it
[09:49] <Zaire> its all opensource so only way to really consider it stealing is to not release a distro
[09:50] <joe3k> Zaire: well you have lfs ;-)
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: precisely, that's exactly the idea.
[09:50] <jimbrowski> has anyone got any ideas why i'm having problems installing kde (kubuntu) from edgy?
[09:50] <[Relic] > I'll just unistall this one and get the one from the sun site which works correctly  :)
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: what are the problems
[09:50] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: well didn't understand that because he initially described himself as lame and then started to praise debian's simplicity
[09:51] <jimbrowski> its something to do with the ksysguardd which shows up as a broken package.
[09:51] <Zaire> debian is a pretty good OS but its out of date cause they hardly do any work on it...I mean their still stuck on 3.1
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: O_o' well, ho was thoroughly right: he's lame.
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: I dissagree
[09:52] <Zaire> you can all you want they just don't to enough upkeep and work on it
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: it's "the server distro", they're putting a *lot* of work in stability
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: and, to be honest, it's stable as a rock
[09:53] <Zaire> I never said it wasn't I just said it was out of date
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: and if you need some cutting-edge, compile from source, or use the volatile repos
[09:53] <joe3k> well that's probably the reason why stable still has 2.4.x :)
[09:53] <jimbrowski> install kde from the terminal as described in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: it's not out of date. Just yestarday it apt-get upgraded ssh to the newest version
[09:53] <bronaugh> yay... LiveCD still runnin.
[09:54] <Zaire> have they fixed the skype issue yet
[09:54] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: unless we're talking a different "out of date" - the one in which if a distro does not have php5 nowadays it's outdated
[09:55] <bronaugh> god damn lazy skype programmers.
[09:55] <Zaire> I hear that
[09:55] <bronaugh> their ALSA support seems to only look at the default card for mixer controls.
[09:55] <joe3k> :)
[09:55] <Zaire> skype is an essential for me
[09:55] <bronaugh> I've submitted a bug report with them (which is bloody difficult to do)
[09:56] <joe3k> bronaugh: well i had to make a few hacks to get that crazy stuff to work on friend's laptop
[09:56] <bronaugh> but so far, I haven't received any response.
[09:56] <Zaire> the skype ppl don't care about linux support...theyve stated that much theri concern is winblows
[09:56] <joe3k> bronaugh: i found it somewhere on gentoo forums that thing needed some crazy alsa parameters in .asoundrc i never heard of
[09:56] <bronaugh> joe3k: it doesn't really.
[09:57] <bronaugh> it just needs to be the only card.
[09:57] <joe3k> bronaugh: ?
[09:57] <jimbrowski> I would have thought it would be a problem that was heard of as its happened to 2 pcs i tried it on
[09:57] <joe3k> hm it was the only card
[09:57] <joe3k> with dmix
[09:57] <bronaugh> ohh.
[09:57] <bronaugh> yeah; I'm not even going there.
[09:57] <Zaire> they don't do support for linux really
[09:58] <bronaugh> then they should release their source code.
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: use Wengo instead of skype :)
[09:58] <Zaire> should but not likely to happen
[09:58] <Zaire> nope skype or none
[09:58] <joe3k> bronaugh: then they could directly release the protocol specs :)
[09:58] <bronaugh> if they aren't going to support it themselves... let the community do it.
[09:58] <joe3k> and that would be the death of skype as client
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> aye
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: sorry for absence, my kb's batteries went buh-bye ;)
[09:59] <Zaire> the only issue I still run into on linux is 1 program uses the whole soundcard so nothing else can
[09:59] <bronaugh> well... uhh. maybe they shouldn't piss off the Linux users if they don't want us to rev eng their protoc.l
[09:59] <bronaugh> Zaire: dmix does work around that.
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> =]
[10:00] <Zaire> dmix?
[10:00] <bronaugh> yeah, ALSA thiny.
[10:00] <bronaugh> there's something similar for the mic.
[10:00] <jimbrowski> no probs bruv, any ideas?
[10:00] <bronaugh> basically copies output of mic to as many programs as connect.
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: I understand you have ubuntu 6.10 and try tp install kde by installing kubuntu-desktop, right?
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> *to
[10:01] <jimbrowski> yep
[10:01] <eilker> hi, anyone could you suggest me security scanner?
[10:01] <joe3k> jimbrowski: do you have a clean 6.10 or upgraded from 6.06?
[10:02] <eilker> like nessus in linux, like acunetix in win32
[10:02] <jimbrowski> fresh 6.10
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: ok, do: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade - and paste the full output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, and give us the link
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: erk, that's: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade :)
[10:02] <coreymon77> hi guys
[10:03] <coreymon77> my apt-get update gives me some failed to fetch notices from certain sites (including the security repo) can someone please give me a full featured, working apt sources.list for edgy?
[10:03] <joe3k> Varjat_by: what ir?
[10:04] <jimbrowski> i'll try that now
[10:04] <joe3k> coreymon77: just a minute
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> ok, maybe somebody will actually try to help me out, too ;)
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> anybody experienced problems with katapult on Kubuntu 6.06.1? when I try to use it to play smthng in amarok, amarok shows a message "no proper plugin" and an *incorrect, relative* path to the file I was trying to play
[10:05] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: i don't use katapult so i can't
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: then you should start using it, it's a great helper ;)
[10:06] <coreymon77> what is katapult?
[10:06] <joe3k> coreymon77: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32400
[10:06] <jimbrowski> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32399/
[10:07] <joe3k> coreymon77: backports are missing but you don't need that now i think
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> coreymon77: a small app running in the bg, when you press Alt+Space shows a "window", when you type-in a name of an app or a song, it starts that app or plays that song
[10:07] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: tried a few times but didn't really like it _that_ much
[10:07] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: the idea is great but i can start the few apps i usually start with mouse anyway
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> coreymon77: or, if you type-in a mathematical expr, it will show you the result
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: well, I cannot live without it now :)
[10:08] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: ok the math expr sounds a lot better, maybe i'll give it a try again :)
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> aye
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: erm, what was the *exact* command you used?
[10:08] <klerfayt> rysiek|pl: http://tinyurl.com/yxh9wd
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: best part is: it's pluginable. you can write your own plugin for it. :)
[10:09] <jimbrowski> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:09] <joe3k> jimbrowski: you know what packages.freecontrib.org is?
[10:10] <joe3k> jimbrowski: if you don't i'd just remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> klerfayt: ah, right, thanks
[10:11] <coreymon77> thank you joe3k
[10:11] <jimbrowski> err,no. i'll try that.
[10:11] <joe3k> coreymon77: did it help?
[10:11] <coreymon77> yes
[10:11] <coreymon77> it works perfectly now
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: first of all, please run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:12] <coreymon77> wow man!
[10:12] <coreymon77> lots of upgrades to do
[10:12] <jimbrowski> ok dun.
[10:12] <joe3k> jimbrowski: ahh
[10:13] <joe3k> jimbrowski: you get the could not open lock file error as well
[10:13] <joe3k> jimbrowski: isn't adept or synaptic running? you have to close it before running the command rysiek|pl told you
[10:17] <Xal2> Hi, I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu. The installer can't see any partitions on my hard drive, but fdisk can.
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu al and thanks for the fish
[10:18] <jimbrowski> dun that, dunno about  not open lock file error though?
[10:20] <james> ok i have a question about ejecting a cd anybody available
[10:20] <james> ???
[10:20] <Xal2> Sometimes you have to unmount the CD first.
[10:20] <Zaire> if its how to do it from cli and it wont norm unmount the use umount -l /cdrom and then eject /cdrom
[10:21] <james> yes thanks for responding that is not what is happening i think ... it shows konqueror running as a process when i kill all of these processes then it will eject why and how can i prevent or stop this?
[10:22] <Zaire> got me there
[10:22] <james> I have no visible konqueror window open
[10:23] <james> i could kill all konqueror and then eject which seems rather extreme
[10:24] <joe3k> lsof or fuser is better to find the "bad" one
[10:25] <coreymon77> !seen whopper
[10:25] <joe3k> fuser -m /media/whatever
[10:25] <ubotu> Whopper is on IRC right now!
[10:26] <Varjat_by> I simply click on CD icon on my desctop and klick 'Eject'.. If your konqueror is in process list but you cann't to have access to it - it is not nomal..
[10:27] <Xal> gah
[10:27] <Xal> Something is wrong with my partition table or something.
[10:28] <Xal> I tried fdisk /dev/sda and then w to rewrite it, but setup still can't see my partitions.
[10:28] <Xal> fdisk -l shows all of them.
[10:28] <james> if i in a terminal type eject /dev/cdrom it reports that device is busy
[10:29] <james> until i kill konqueror
[10:30] <Ace2016> can't you get konqueror to unmount it?
[10:30] <larss0n> do anybode know some good downloading program for music ?
[10:31] <hyper_ch> got some x-server problems: no screens found and error in locking authority file ~/.Xauthority
[10:31] <james> my version of kubuntu does not have an unmount option it automatically unmounts and ejects
[10:31] <james> edgy
[10:31] <Zaire> if it reports as busy and won't eject use sudo umount -l /cdrom and it will force an unmount
[10:32] <narg> Edgy refuses to install the libqt3-mt-dev; is this a known bug or did I hose my box somehow?
[10:32] <james> ok
[10:32] <Xal> lol still talking about the cd rom problem
[10:32] <Xal> wow
[10:32] <james> its not over till its over
[10:32] <larss0n> do anybode know some good downloading program for music ?
[10:32] <Xal> true
[10:33] <joe3k> james: did you try the fuser or lsof
[10:33] <Xal> I haven't found a solution to my problem :(
[10:33] <Zaire> Ive had it not eject cd many times due to the inability to unmount and umount -l has yet to fail me
[10:33] <james> how do use fuser in a nutshell tried the manual
[10:34] <joe3k> james: first try fuser -m /media/cdrom or whatever you have
[10:34] <james> what is the command fuser what ...?
[10:34] <james> ok
[10:34] <narg> larss0n: If you mean just an automatic http downloader, wget or kget work well. If you mean p2p, you'll want to look at amule or azureus.
[10:34] <james> what does that do?
[10:35] <larss0n> something like frostwire ^^bunt my java doesent work :S
[10:35] <Zaire> if its kubuntu its /cdrom not /media/cdrom
[10:35] <joe3k> Zaire: i have /media but i didn't change my fstab for years
[10:36] <narg> !java > larss0n
[10:36] <joe3k> james: shows you processes blocking the device
[10:36] <Zaire> yea but default for dapper is /cdrom
[10:36] <james> awesome and -k kills them without listing is that correct
[10:36] <joe3k> james: something like that
[10:36] <james> sweet
[10:37] <joe3k> james: but maybe you should take a look who blocks that and why
[10:37] <joe3k> james: don't you have some previews enabled in konq?
[10:37] <james> yea it was konqueror
[10:37] <rafaguap> Hi boys!! Problem with acpi: either i put at boot the message acpi=force, and so my wireless works, either I put pnpbios=off, and so my usb memory key is working. Not both, unfortunately!
[10:37] <james> don't know
[10:38] <james> opening a dvd does not automatically stop up the system it is after i play a file that i have trouble ejecting
[10:38] <BluesKaj> anyone have a repos for oogle earth in edgy ...since updating from dapper mine is kaput
[10:38] <BluesKaj> google earth
[10:39] <joe3k> james: ok so play that file and then do lsof /media/cdrom or /cdrom
[10:39] <james> does anyone use lineakd and can you do multiple commands for one keystroke?
[10:39] <dima_> helo i'm from russia
[10:39] <joe3k> james: lsof is better but i had to figure out you can't write lsof /media/cdrom/, but /media/cdrom wout the / at the end
[10:40] <joe3k> dima_: hi pretty late already, isn't it ;-)
[10:40] <joe3k> james: it will show you the file which is still open
[10:40] <james> will check that out
[10:41] <james> by the way it is cdrom0
[10:41] <Zaire> cdrom will generally work to
[10:41] <joe3k> is usually simlinked
[10:41] <joe3k> sym
[10:41] <Zaire> although might be diff if you have 2 drive I spose
[10:41] <dima_> yes. i translate some word on russian language
[10:42] <joe3k> dima_: that's great, i do the same for sk
[10:42] <dima_> i'm very slow.but understand :)
[10:43] <dima_> what is sk
[10:43] <joe3k> dima_: slovak
[10:43] <scoates> hello
[10:43] <james> thanks till later
[10:44] <seraphangel> anyone know what command i have to use so i can watch files from my other drives as a reg user?
[10:44] <dima_> slavak i can understand yuo language little
[10:44] <seraphangel> its saying i dont have the permissions to play um
[10:44] <scoates> after about 18h of uptime, Xorg starts eating unreasonable amounts of CPU. Things like moving windows don't update until I stop moving them, and top shows Xorg pegging at 98%+ CPU when doing thinks like opening menus. How can I diagnose (and eventually) solve this problem?
[10:45] <joe3k> dima_: hehe the same with me with russian lang ;-)
[10:45] <joe3k> seraphangel: what fs is it?
[10:45] <joe3k> seraphangel: did you configure it in /etc/fstab?
[10:46] <dima_> slavyanskie kak ni kak
[10:46] <seraphangel> its recognizing all my drizes
[10:46] <seraphangel> the one im trying to play from is reiserfs from when i was on slack
[10:46] <dima_> :)
[10:46] <vikke> I have a question, if I need a package for a certain application, and that package depends on alot of other packages so i cant install it. how do I work that out?
[10:46] <joe3k> seraphangel: ahh ok
[10:47] <jmichaelx> has anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in k/ubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.
[10:47] <joe3k> seraphangel: not sure what do you have to do there, did you check the permissions?
[10:47] <ubuntu> how do fomat a floppy to fat file system with ubuntu?
[10:47] <dima_> i setup squid on kubuntu and connect 20 peaple
[10:47] <seraphangel> its saying i dont have the right permission to play um
[10:48] <seraphangel> dont know the gui way
[10:48] <seraphangel> only command line
[10:48] <joe3k> seraphangel: check your permissions with ls -l /media/... plz
[10:49] <scoates> ubuntu: apt-get install dosfstools, then mkfs.dos
[10:49] <ubuntu> i can't install anything, i'm using a live cd
[10:49] <seraphangel> seraph@seraph:~$ ls -l /media/hdd
[10:49] <seraphangel> ls: /media/hdd: Permission denied
[10:50] <joe3k> seraphangel: and ls -l /media ?
[10:50] <nothlit> take out the /hdd part
[10:50] <joe3k> good point
[10:50] <seraphangel> dr-x------ 1 root root 12288 2006-11-11 21:44 hdd
[10:51] <seraphangel> weird
[10:51] <seraphangel> all the rest are....drwxr-xr-x
[10:51] <joe3k> seraphangel: do you have your fs automounted upon boot?
[10:52] <joe3k> seraphangel: if yes check your /etc/fstab and look for the line with hdd
[10:52] <seraphangel> dont remember if this one is or not for some reason it didnt mount a few that were sposed to be and i had to manually do it
[10:52] <ubuntu> is there a way to format a floppy to fat file system with a live kubuntu cd?
[10:52] <seraphangel> hm
[10:52] <seraphangel> actually
[10:53] <rafaguap> .. any clue to start searching about these acpi things??
[10:53] <seraphangel> it didnt add it to fstab
[10:53] <seraphangel> along with a few other drives
[10:53] <joe3k> ubuntu: try mkfs.dos as scoates suggested, if it does not work try maybe mkfs.vfat (maybe its the same, dont knw)
[10:53] <joe3k> ubuntu: if it's not working you can't do it with livecd
[10:54] <seraphangel> for the uuid do i need to add that part when i add the other drives to fstab?
[10:54] <joe3k> seraphangel: hmmm so i wonder who mounts it then
[10:54] <seraphangel> i manually did
[10:54] <joe3k> ahh ok
[10:54] <seraphangel> i keep this comp on 24/7 so i didnt realize it wasnt on auto
[10:54] <joe3k> seraphangel: not sure, didn't play with the uuids yet, it just happened during upgrade
[10:55] <seraphangel> hm
[10:55] <dima_> i have very interesting book about linux but they on russian language
[10:55] <seraphangel> i know how to add without it but some of the options in fstab are new
[10:55] <Xal> I just tried a previous version oa Kubuntu, and it still doesn't detect my partitions. Fdisk, however, does.
[10:55] <joe3k> seraphangel: according to man fstab you still can use the device name
[10:56] <joe3k> Xal: what disk is it, sata?
[10:57] <Xal> yes
[10:57] <Xal> It's on a Via controller, if that matters.
[10:58] <joe3k> Xal: did you look into launchpad? maybe it's a known problem ....
[10:58] <Xal> I've installed Linux on this drive before though, and why would fdisk see them?
[10:58] <Xal> No
[10:58] <Xal> How would I search for this though?
[10:58] <Xal> Setup doesn't detect partitions, but fdisk does?
[10:58] <joe3k> Xal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[10:59] <joe3k> Xal: well if it's a bug in setup or something like that, than yes
[10:59] <Xal> Hmm, I wonder if the same bug would be in 6.06 and 6.10
[10:59] <joe3k> joe3k: i've no sata disks so i can't really tell
[10:59] <seraphangel> hm how would i take root off all my other partitions ecept my main system
[11:00] <Xal> joe3k: don't see anything that is specific to my problem.
[11:01] <joe3k> Xal: dunno, found some sata+via, but this one rather crashes https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qtparted/+bug/48494
[11:02] <SpySpooKy> hi, what is the default pw for "su -"?
[11:02] <nothlit> Is it just the setup that doesn't detect it? Does it show up under ls /dev ?
[11:02] <nothlit> SpySpooKy, null
[11:02] <joe3k> Xal: the next one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2478
[11:03] <bLaZeD> SpySpooKy, there is no password
[11:03] <joe3k> nothlit: fdisk sees it
[11:03] <bLaZeD> SpySpooKy, its a randomly genrated number
[11:03] <joe3k> nothlit: strange
[11:03] <Xal> nothlit I'm not quite sure. Setup detects the drive, and fdisk detects the partitions. That's all I really know.
[11:03] <bLaZeD> !sudo | SpySpooKy
[11:03] <ubotu> SpySpooKy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:03] <nothlit> SpySpooKy, it doesnt work until you change the root password with sudo passwd but you can get a root shell with sudo -s (keeps variables) or sudo -i, replaces with root variables
[11:03] <SpySpooKy> okay, thx
[11:03] <bLaZeD> SpySpooKy, yea or u can do sudo su - to get a root terminal
[11:04] <joe3k> Xal: setup detects it? so you only cannot create parts/or install it there?
[11:04] <SortOfThing> sudo rulz
[11:04] <Xal> I can write an empty partition table, but I'd rather not do that.
[11:04] <Xal> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2478 this is the exact problem, afaik
[11:04] <joe3k> Xal: ahh so you only don't see the partitions, i see now
[11:05] <Xal> yeah
[11:05] <joe3k> Xal: in the ticket it reads setup doesn't detect the disk
[11:05] <Xal> or it's close. I see the drive, but no partitions. I've tried 6.06 and 6.10
[11:05] <Xal> Yeah, misread that :p
[11:05] <Xal> Ah right, there's an error it comes up with:
[11:06] <taker> hello
[11:06] <taker> test test
[11:06] <Xal> critical error during ped_disk_new
[11:06] <taker> seems to work ;-)
[11:06] <joe3k> Xal: well you could check your dmesg but not sure it'd help
[11:06] <joe3k> Xal: console?
[11:07] <Xal> That's in setup in the partitioning stage.
[11:07] <taker> anyone able to read what I write?
[11:07] <ExitMenu> hello, I am doing a kubutu install and once I have done it I plan to install some other packages and some things not in the package managment system. I was wondering if anyone could recomed anysoftware to make and image of my install or a way I could make my own installer for my setup so the rest of the people I work with can use it as a base install
[11:07] <Xal> taker: no
[11:07] <Xal> ExitMenu there is something in the Kubuntu docs... I'll see if I can find the page
[11:08] <taker> Xal: Oh Thanks! It is my first time in chat.
[11:08] <Xal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[11:08] <ExitMenu> ta
[11:08] <Xal> I'm just kidding
[11:08] <Xal> lol
[11:08] <joe3k> Xal: looks like a bug
[11:08] <Xal> I've installed Linux on this drive and controller before, though.
[11:08] <Xal> With 6.06
[11:08] <joe3k> ehm and now it doesn't work with 6.06 anymore?
[11:08] <Xal> and now not even 6.06 works.
[11:09] <joe3k> huh
[11:09] <Zarephath> Can't find this with apt-cache anyone help? checking for PIXBUF... configure: error: Package requirements (gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.1.2) were not met:
[11:09] <michele> upgraded 6.06 to 6.10, can't log into kde from kdm anymore, any idea
[11:09] <Xal> I got rid of 6.06 so that I could install 6.10 fresh. My previous 6.06 installation read the disks fine, and it installed fine originally.
[11:09] <joe3k> both look like a broken upgrade
[11:10] <Zarephath> Did you try to dist-upgrade?
[11:10] <joe3k> Xal: should have tried to upgrade ;-) now you'd be asking questions like michele does ;-)
[11:10] <Xal> joe3k: I did upgrade
[11:10] <Zarephath> Known problems with that method
[11:10] <Xal> It didn't work well.
[11:10] <michele> :op
[11:11] <joe3k> i had as well but eventuelly managed to get it working
[11:11] <Xal> I'm alright with Linux. I'm just not good at fixing problems like this.
[11:11] <Xal> When things that should work dont
[11:11] <jhondoe> Xal i don't like 6.10
[11:11] <jhondoe> 6.06's better
[11:11] <joe3k> though i had still some dapper packages in edgy then which were breaking installation of some other edgy packages
[11:11] <Varjat_by> Is anybody try to confugure Samba server with standart KDE utility? For examle I a member of workgroup.. Is it possible to tell this information to Samba through KDE System Settinf tool?
[11:11] <michele> you all suggest a fresh install?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Google Earth core is constantly refreshing itself ...very irritating..anyone know a fix ?
[11:11] <Xal> jhondoe: and right now I cannot install either version.
[11:11] <Zarephath> Indeed..fresh is best
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: well
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: i suppose you tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <michele> yep
[11:12] <Xal> I had a few problems with 6.10 on my other computer.
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: and did it work?
[11:12] <michele> sure
[11:12] <Xal> The default xorg install is broken.
[11:12] <michele> no problems
[11:12] <ijacek> !cz
[11:12] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: ok than there's something wrong
[11:12] <michele> I can log into gnome from kdm no problem
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: :)
[11:12] <Xal> Well, I guess I'll clear the partition table and try again.
[11:13] <Xal> ah well :(
[11:13] <michele> AAHHH
[11:13] <joe3k> Xal: sorry i couldn't help
[11:13] <michele> np
[11:13] <Xal> no prob
[11:13] <joe3k> Xal: good lock anyway
[11:13] <Xal> I don't have anything really important on there.
[11:13] <Xal> Thanks ^^
[11:13] <michele> I was really hoping it would work ok this time
[11:14] <Xal> okay..
[11:14] <Xal> This is strange.
[11:14] <joe3k> michele: can you try to start kde manually?
[11:14] <Xal> It didn't show any partitions, but when I pressed next... it shows my partitons as possible mount points
[11:14] <Xal> oO
[11:14] <michele> that didn't work. startkde does nothing
[11:14] <joe3k> michele: some error msg?
[11:14] <michele> nope
[11:15] <michele> as far as I remember
[11:15] <joe3k> michele: dpkg -l "kde*" and check versions?
[11:15] <joe3k> michele: apt-get --reinstall every kde package? ... just generating ideas :)
[11:16] <michele> most versions on 3.5.5, but I have a few None
[11:16] <michele> also stuff I see on the Read More of kubuntu 6.10 isn't there
[11:17] <ijacek> i have kubuntu6.10 :)
[11:17] <joe3k> michele: what read more? don't know it ...
[11:17] <michele> sec
[11:17] <michele> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[11:17] <joe3k> michele: btw i hope you tried startkde only after X
[11:18] <Xal> joe3k: booting into 6.10 live CD now. This might just work
[11:18] <michele> doh?
[11:18] <Xal> This is still strange though.
[11:18] <michele> startx and then startkde?
[11:18] <michele> sorry don't understand
[11:19] <michele> startx puts me on a desktop already
[11:19] <joe3k> michele: sorry I meant X && startkde
[11:19] <joe3k> michele: you need an X display to run startkde I think
[11:19] <michele> ah, no
[11:19] <michele> I went startkde from the console
[11:19] <joe3k> michele: hm not 100% sure with the correct order
[11:20] <joe3k> michele: but i'd try stop kdm, then X & and when X starts, then startkde
[11:20] <moj0rising> I installed ubuntu with hardware raid 1 and it will not boot -- disk not found. Does anyone have any ideas/ know where I can find a solution?
[11:20] <michele> will try that
[11:20] <michele> found the startkde error
[11:20] <michele> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[11:20] <moj0rising> I have checked the forums and can't find what I'm looking for.
[11:21] <michele> sorry /home/michele/.kde/env/start-gpg-agent.sh: 2: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[11:21] <alucard9> hello
[11:22] <joe3k> michele: start-gpg-agent hm ....
[11:22] <michele> looks like a leftover
[11:22] <michele> from previous installation?
[11:22] <joe3k> michele: possible
[11:22] <michele> should I delete my .kde?
[11:22] <michele> and try again?
[11:22] <joe3k> michele: noooo
[11:22] <michele> ok
[11:23] <joe3k> michele: if you're ok loosing all your settings you might try
[11:23] <joe3k> michele: but you can try mv .kde .kde.old
[11:23] <michele> I knew that, but last straws
[11:23] <michele> yeah
[11:23] <snikker> i've add a command with no password in /etc/sudoers but doesn't work, why?
[11:23] <michele> move better
[11:23] <Armagguedes> hellus
[11:24] <joe3k> michele: i used once the gpg stuff but now i don't have the file you mention
[11:24] <Armagguedes> can someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?
[11:24] <sledge_at_work> beagle
[11:24] <joe3k> snikker: used visudo?
[11:24] <sledge_at_work> (That's the only one I know of.)
[11:25] <snikker> joe3k: yes
[11:25] <joe3k> snikker: can you paste the line?
[11:26] <snikker> joe3k: snikker ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter
[11:26] <seraphangel> whats the command for formating to ext3?
[11:26] <michele> I try your suggestions. Thanks a lot
[11:27] <sledge_at_work> seraphangel: mkfs -t ext3
[11:28] <seraphangel> would ext3 or resiserfs be better to use?
[11:29] <joe3k> snikker: and sudo /usr/bin/firestarter doesn't work, right?
[11:29] <snikker> joe3k: yes, doesn't work... it ask me the password...
[11:30] <joe3k> seraphangel: i'd stick with ext3
[11:31] <joe3k> snikker: can you pastebin your /etc/sudoers plz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:32] <joe3k> snikker: i've no idea though but i'll see what i can do
[11:32] <snikker> joe3k: ok, just a moment...
[11:32] <seraphangel> in fstab what is the 2 2 at the end mean? kernal 2.4 it was 1 1
[11:33] <joe3k> seraphangel: the last one is the order in which it gets checked
[11:33] <snikker> joe3k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32423/
[11:34] <joe3k> seraphangel: man fstab, the 5th has something to do with dump
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> how do i install flash
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[11:38] <Oli> How can I show the Konqueror sidebar?
[11:38] <tamacracker> Does anyone have that application that fetches gmail
[11:38] <joe3k> snikker: well ... not sure
[11:38] <tamacracker> by clicking the taskbar icon?
[11:39] <joe3k> snikker: specifying commands separately doesn't work for me either, we're doing something wrong here
[11:39] <Oli> there's a sidebar which has amaroK, files and favorites
[11:39] <joe3k> snikker: but ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL works for me :)
[11:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !flash
[11:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <Oli> it's there in some Konqueror profiles but not all.
[11:39] <bot12gb> #kubuntu-es
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[11:40] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> Admiral_Chicago, ^^^^
[11:41] <Legion> !DRM
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DRM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <tamacracker> does anyone know the adept file that fetches gmail?
[11:42] <Oli> How can I show the Konqueror sidebar? It's a sidebar which has amaroK, files and favorites, it's there in some Konqueror profiles but not all.
[11:42] <snikker> joe3k: yes, maybe we're doing something wrong... but i don't understand what... anyway, thnks for support :)
[11:43] <Armagguedes> can someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?
[11:43] <Legion> I've downloaded the Kubuntu Desktop CD
[11:43] <Legion> will that work as a live CD aswell?
[11:44] <Xal> Yes
[11:44] <joe3k> Xal: worked?
[11:44] <Xal> No
[11:44] <Xal> I just cleared the partition table.
[11:44] <joe3k> ok
[11:44] <Xal> It still claimed that I didn't edit anything, so I gave up.
[11:44] <jager> so is sun java in the repositories?  which one?
[11:44] <joe3k> :-/
[11:44] <joe3k> gotta go now, bye
[11:49] <tamacracker> Does anyone know about the universe list?
[11:49] <Tm_T> !universe
[11:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:49] <Tm_T> ;)
[11:49] <tamacracker> thanks :)
[11:50] <awz> can anybody help me with installing the linux verstion of quake 3 arena
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> awz: google quake 3 linux
[11:51] <awz> i have the file
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> there's a guide somewhere on the internet
[11:51] <awz> its a .zip file
[11:51] <awz> and i unzipped it according to the guide
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> the guide knows all and sees all
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> ;)
[11:52] <awz> now i have a .gz.sh file, but when i click on it, or try to run through the shell, there is a waiting icon, then nothing happens
[11:52] <bartek> HI!
[11:52] <awz> and
[11:52] <awz> when i use the konsole i get an error message
[11:52] <awz> and i've googled the error message, but no luck for 2 days
[11:52] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:52] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:52] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <awz> and i just now realised i could use an irc client to find help lol
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> can enobidy help me??
[11:57] <BluesKaj> bartek , do you have amarok installed?
[11:57] <Alter-Ego> how do i upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu ?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> bartek: install amarok
[11:57] <BluesKaj> !install
[11:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> Alter-Ego, install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[11:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:59] <Alter-Ego> after installation, will gnome still be there ?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> yes
[11:59] <Alter-Ego> but i should be able to remove it right ?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> you will be able to decide which desktop you want to use
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> Alter-Ego, you can not install or uninstall on a livecd
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> unless you chroot onto your hdd that is
[12:01] <Alter-Ego> sure you can, i install programs on livecd version all the time
[12:01] <Alter-Ego> granted, when you shut down, poof they are gone
[12:01] <Alter-Ego> but i am experimenting
[12:02] <TheGateKeeper> download kubuntu livecd then
[12:03] <Xal2> I wonder if I should try Gentoo again.
[12:04] <Armagguedes> can someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?
[12:04] <Xal2> google desktop?
[12:04] <brett_> Is the source code availible for all the games that kubuntu lets you install through add/remove programs?
[12:05] <Armagguedes> Xal2, beagle and so on
[12:05] <Xal2> Hmm, never thought of a use for something like it.
[12:05] <Xal2> I use locate.
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, if it's an open source game then yes
[12:06] <brett_> TheGateKeeper: where can i find the source code if it is? i am interested in the konquest game
[12:06] <awz> i have an error trying to install linux quake 3 demo
[12:06] <awz> someone help?
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, hmmm how did I know that was going to be you next question lol
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, sorry I don't know, however...
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, if you google you might be able to find a home sight and from that work out what the dev package is called, or be able to download it from the home site
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> s/sight/site
[12:08] <brett_> TheGateKeeper: thanks
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> ooops
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, np :-)
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, probable on sourceforge somewhere, most stuff that is open source seems to have a home there
[12:10] <Armagguedes> how do i do the initial WINE config?
[12:10] <brett_> TheGateKeeper: i think i found it
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper> :-)
[12:11] <_awz_> gatekeeper
[12:11] <_awz_> i have a slight problem, that maybe you can fix?
[12:11] <_awz_> is anybody here good at decifering errors
[12:11] <_awz_> would be greatly appreciated