[07:53] <bryce> tjaalton: do we have many bugs against -vesa?
[07:54] <bryce> 12, hmm
[08:00] <bryce> wow, the vesa driver is all in one .c file
[08:00] <tjaalton> something like that
[08:00] <bryce> 1873 lines
[08:00] <tjaalton> ye
[08:00] <tjaalton> s
[08:00] <bryce> do you know if there's any development work needed for vesa?
[08:01] <bryce> or is it intended to be kept "trivial"?
[08:03] <tjaalton> well, there still seems to be some problems with getting valid modes for r5xx
[08:03] <tjaalton> but that should be "fixed" when those use ati or radeonhd
[08:04] <bryce> hmm
[08:04] <tjaalton> bug 174434
[08:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 174434 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa "[ATI X1300] Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174434
[08:05] <tjaalton> the title is just a symptom
[08:05] <bryce> oh yeah, I was just looking at that
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #183961 in xorg-server (main) "X Window System error while starting easyeclipse <IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183961
[08:08] <bryce> btw, I passed on your comments about drm issues to intel; hopefully that stimulates getting some traction towards addressing the issues.
[08:12] <bryce> wow, -intel is 33,000 lines, and -ati is over 80,000
[08:13] <bryce> I would have suspected those numbers reversed
[08:13] <bryce> huh, and -nv is 19,000
[08:18] <bryce> -psb is 16,500, not too shabby
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #183969 in xorg-server (main) "xserver-xorg-core update breaks VLC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183969
[08:53] <tjaalton> bryce: ok, cool
[08:56] <bryce> tjaalton: do you know if anyone's tried getting triple head running with an intel on-board chip plus an ati dual-output card?
[08:56] <tjaalton> never heard of such
[08:56] <bryce> I'm thinking of throwing some coding energy (after inkscape 0.46 is in the bag) towards making that work, if someone hasn't beaten me to it
[08:57] <bryce> I'm figuring intel and amd don't have a lot of incentive to make each other's products work together, so it's not likely to be something that gets fixed on its own
[08:58] <tjaalton> I understood that it needs some plumbing before it can work
[08:59] <bryce> I know it'd require ttm in order to stitch the screens together...  but what plumbing beyond that?
[09:00] <tjaalton> well you said it :)
[09:00] <bryce> heh, ok
[09:00] <bryce> ttm + misc. bug fixes
[09:00] <tjaalton> but maybe xrandr-1.3 had something to do with it IIRC
[10:21] <bryce> tjaalton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/183969
[10:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183969 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update breaks java apps" [High,Confirmed]
[10:21] <tjaalton> known
[10:22] <tjaalton> oh
[10:22] <tjaalton> sorry I thought that was hardy
[10:22] <tjaalton> so the security updates broke that?
[10:23] <bryce> hmm, is that what did it?
[10:23] <tjaalton> only changes in .1
[10:24] <bryce> weird, I'd numbered my release 12ubuntu9 iir
[10:24] <bryce> c
[10:24] <bryce> ohhhh
[10:25] <bryce> I recognize those error messages; java must be using some out of bounds conditions or something
[10:26] <bryce> rats
[10:29] <bryce> tjaalton: sorry; this one looks to be my fault.  I'll sort it out tomorrow.
[10:30] <tjaalton> oh :/
[10:30] <tjaalton> I can do a merge for hardy
[10:30] <tjaalton> debian has the patches already
[10:30] <tjaalton> bryce: is there a typo or something?
[10:30] <bryce> no idea
[10:31] <bryce> but if there was an issue, I should have caught it when reviewing the patches for hardy
[10:31] <tjaalton> ok
[10:31] <bryce> kees did the uploads for gutsy iirc
[10:41] <tjaalton> hmm
[10:41] <tjaalton> actually.. are the X and java security issues dependant on each other?
[10:42] <tjaalton> I mean does java need to be updated if the X is updated
[10:43] <ubotu> New bug: #183993 in xorg-server (main) "Could not Start Eclipse Rich-Clients after latest xorg-server update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183993
[10:43] <ubotu> New bug: #183994 in xorg-server (main) "After security update to 2:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 can't start Eclipse Europa (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183994
[10:43] <ubotu> New bug: #183996 in xorg-server (main) "Eclipse SDK 3.2.2 (with aptana plugin) crashes after xserver-xorg-core update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183996
[10:43] <tjaalton> maybe not
[10:44] <ubotu> New bug: #183986 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse crashes after xserver-xorg-core update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183986
[10:44] <ubotu> New bug: #183987 in pgadmin3 (universe) "PGAdmin3 won't start after xorg-core upgrade (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183987
[11:10] <Q-FUNK> ok, we have one confirmation that the patched xserver-xorg-core fixes -amd in bug #140051
[11:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 140051 in xserver-xorg-video-amd "amd driver fails to autoconfigure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140051
[11:36] <jcristau> meh. http://bugs.debian.org/461410 so it's not just you...
[11:48] <tjaalton> right :/
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #183974 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (main) "KB language setting resets at reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183974
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #184004 in xorg (main) "Eclipse no longer works after upgrading to xserver-xorg-core-...-ubuntu8.1 (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184004
[12:01] <jcristau> can i blame java anyway? :)
[12:03] <tjaalton> hehe
[12:04] <jcristau> i suspect it's the mit-shm patch, but i don't have any swt app here to easily test
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #184003 in xorg-server (main) ""BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" error when run amule or filezilla with xserver-xorg-core version 2:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184003
[12:43] <tjaalton> hmmh? enabling exa made the problem go away for one reporter
[12:43] <tjaalton> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/183969/comments/17
[12:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183969 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update breaks java apps" [Critical,Confirmed]
[13:16] <jcristau> these "me too" are soooo useful...
[13:17] <tjaalton> very..
[13:22] <jcristau> tjaalton: exa doesn't support shared pixmaps, maybe that makes the bug go away
[13:23] <tjaalton> ah, makes sense
[13:25] <jcristau> are you able to reproduce it?
[13:25] <tjaalton> hmm, I'll try on my laptop (intel)
[13:25] <jcristau> the crash, i mean
[13:26] <ubotu> New bug: #184018 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "no terminal/console screens with new proposed xserver-xorg-video-intel 9.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184018
[13:27] <jcristau> i'd like to confirm it's the ProcShmCreatePixmap check
[13:33] <tjaalton> hmm, I can't get anything useful out of vlc
[13:35] <tjaalton> trying azureus
[13:41] <tjaalton> duh, how do I get a backtrace from it? need to set a breakpoint?
[13:42] <jcristau> getting the name of the failing request would be a start
[13:43] <tjaalton> request_code 146?
[13:43] <jcristau> xdpyinfo -ext MIT-SHM
[13:43] <jcristau> should tell you the corresponding opcode
[13:45] <tjaalton> opcode: 146, base event: 94, base error: 170
[13:45] <jcristau> ok that's the one then
[13:50] <jcristau> mailed<EMAIL_ADDRESS>maybe i should have sent it to xorg_security too...
[13:53] <tjaalton> cool
[14:11] <ubotu> New bug: #184029 in xorg-server (main) "emacs22 icon blank after xserver-xorg-core 2:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 update and Xfce" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184029
[14:17] <jcristau> got confirmation from another reporter that disabling mit-shm works around the problem
[14:18] <tjaalton> how to do that?
[14:18] <jcristau> Option "MIT-SHM" "no" in the Extensions section
[14:18] <tjaalton> ok, thanks
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #184032 in ubuntu "VLC media player fails to start (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184032
[14:46] <tjaalton> keep'em coming
[15:00] <jcristau> tjaalton: got a report that amd64 isn't affected
[15:03] <tjaalton> hmm, good to know
[15:08] <jcristau> there's an if (sizeof(long) == 4) in the patch though :)
[15:08] <jcristau> so that's not completely unexpected
[15:09] <tjaalton> hehe
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #184044 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse won't start anymore (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184044
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #184046 in ubuntu "Eclipse's crashing after X update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184046
[16:35] <tjaalton> "whee", new fglrx
[16:35] <tjaalton> catalyst 8.1 aka 8.452
[16:35] <Q-FUNK> anybody wants to try porting bartman's x86emu patches to 1.4 ?
[16:36] <tjaalton> not me, at least not now :)
[16:36] <tjaalton> need to go shopping
[16:38] <tjaalton> jcristau: we've reverted the security updates...
[16:38] <tjaalton> until it's fixed properly
[16:39] <jcristau> tjaalton: all of them, or just that one patch?
[16:39] <tjaalton> all of them, just to be sure
[16:39] <jcristau> ok
[16:40] <tjaalton> I was tempted to upload a version to hardy with just the one patch dropped
[16:40] <tjaalton> but dropped them all anyway
[16:40] <keescook> might be reasonable to do that for hardy -- just to test the others.
[16:40] <tjaalton> keescook: well, I did it already. You can play with it if you like :)
[16:41] <keescook> tjaalton: heh, okay.
[16:41] <keescook> I don't understand why that chunk of code fails, though.  the tests _seem_ sane.
[16:42] <tjaalton> I'll build it locally without that patch
[16:42] <tjaalton> and put it on my laptop
[16:44] <jcristau> would be nice if someone would add some debugf's in there to know which check is failing and why
[16:59] <bryce> did the patches break on hardy as well?
[17:00] <tjaalton> yes
[17:00] <tjaalton> I tried it..
[17:00] <bryce> hrm
[17:01] <bryce> keescook: next week in London perhaps we could put some thoughts together about a regression test suite
[17:01]  * tjaalton goes out, bbl
[17:02] <bryce> tjaalton: thanks, cya
[17:03] <keescook> bryce: yeah
[17:03] <keescook> bryce: mostly we just need an extension exerciser.
[17:04] <bryce> I suspect many bugs would be caught by just trying to start X, and take a screen cap, but others are more involved
[17:04] <jcristau> i'd been using the patched version for a week without noticing anything fwiw
[17:04] <keescook> bryce: well, I might have noticed had I tested on i386 -- I only used amd64 this time.  *sigh*
[17:05] <jcristau> but then i don't use the apps that have been reported as broken by the update
[17:06] <bryce> yeah I don't make a habit of testing java apps.  hmm
[17:06] <keescook> I've suddenly grown a new habit.  ;)
[17:06] <bryce> ;-)
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #184000 in ubuntu "wxPython apps fail after xserver update (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184000
[17:09] <ubotu> New bug: #184079 in xorg-server (main) "Update xserver-xorg-core broke Eclipse (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184079
[17:09] <keescook> jcristau: what's the right way to report debug messages from an extension?
[17:09] <Q-FUNK> bryce: hiya.  any chance bartman's patches could go into X 1.4?
[17:10] <ubotu> New bug: #184078 in xorg (main) "keyboard stops working until logout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184078
[17:10] <bryce> hi Q-FUNK, not today (i'm busy getting ready for my flight out tomorrow).
[17:11] <bryce> possibly next week, however I've learned it's quite tough trying to get packaging done at a conference
[17:11] <jcristau> well, for debugging printf should work
[17:12] <keescook> jcristau: okay, cool -- I wasn't sure if it shut down std fds
[17:12] <jcristau> hrm
[17:12] <jcristau> you're right
[17:12] <jcristau> lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 18 18:12 2 -> /dev/null
[17:12] <bryce> Q-FUNK: if I have a chance today, and if the patches go in cleanly, I'll try to get to it later in the day
[17:13] <jcristau> keescook: let me check
[17:14] <Q-FUNK> bryce: lovely.  if they work, can you pass them over to jcristau for inclusion into Debian too?
[17:15] <keescook> jcristau: I've found other mentions of fprintf(stderr, so I'll give that a quick spin
[17:15] <jcristau> keescook: you can use ErrorF
[17:16] <jcristau> (and #include "os.h", if needed)
[17:17] <keescook> jcristau: okay, building now
[17:30] <ubotu> New bug: #184085 in wacom-tools (main) "in xsetwacom, setting button2 also sets button1" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184085
[17:43] <mvo> what is the master bug for the xbork problem? I got some 403 errors that I would like to reassign there
[17:45] <jcristau> mvo: 183969
[17:47] <mvo> thanks jcristau
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #184088 in xorg-server (main) "permission problem on .deb download from synaptic (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184088
[17:57] <ubotu> New bug: #184094 in xorg (main) "broken input in wine/crossover after updating xorg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184094
[17:59] <bdmurray> I've written a bughelper clue file for 183969 using the string "serial 477 error_code 11 request_code 144".  Is that a reasonable string to use?
[18:00] <jcristau> the serial number and request code will vary
[18:00] <keescook> ProcShmCreatePixmap (size < width * height) size: 12288 width: 1536 height: 64
[18:00] <bdmurray> What would be a better string to uniquely identify the bug then?
[18:03] <jcristau> keescook: thanks
[18:04] <keescook> jcristau: is there another channel that is better to follow along with debugging this issue?
[18:04] <jcristau> 12288 is 1536*64/8
[18:05] <keescook> size is coming from PixmapBytePad ...
[18:05] <jcristau> #define PixmapBytePad(w, d) \ (PixmapWidthInPadUnits(w, d) << PixmapWidthPaddingInfo[d].padBytesLog2)
[18:05] <keescook> yeah
[18:06] <keescook> PixmapBytePad is returning 192... (which is smaller than width?!)
[18:06] <jcristau> yeah it's width/8
[18:07] <jcristau> i guess #xorg-devel would be the best place
[18:09] <keescook> jcristau: what nick does Matthieu Herrb use?
[18:09] <jcristau> i don't think he's on irc
[18:09] <keescook> ah
[18:09] <jcristau> and airlied seems offline too :/
[18:36] <ubotu> New bug: #184082 in boinc (universe) "'boincmgr' received an X Window System error (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184082
[18:39] <ubotu> New bug: #183922 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes after using Microsoft Word 2003 in Wine." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183922
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #184134 in xorg-server (main) "X.org security update broke Eclipse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184134
[20:02] <ubotu> New bug: #163642 in xorg (main) "Maximum choosable resolution is too low even with nvidia driver" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163642
[20:03] <bryce> keescook: do you think that java error could show up in wine crashes?  The timing of #183922 seems suspicious.
[20:04] <jcristau> bryce: that bug title says "Xorg crashes", not "app crashes"?
[20:04] <bryce> ah ok
[20:15] <ubotu> New bug: #184147 in xorg-server (main) "[Feisty] 403 Forbidden http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.2.0-3ubuntu8.1_i386.deb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184147
[20:18] <keescook> bryce: it does make me a give nervous -- his log shows the updated X server.  but as jcristau says, it's not the bug we're currently fixing.
[20:19] <bryce> ok; I gave general directions for getting an X backtrace.  we'll see where it goes
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #184151 in xorg-server (main) "amule fails to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184151
[20:31] <jcristau> wow, your users really don't know to search for existing bugs
[20:51] <bryce> welcome to our world ;-)
[20:51] <bryce> actually it's quite tragic - when they *do* search for existing bugs, they invariably pick one that isn't actually the same bug
[20:51] <jcristau> heh
[20:52] <bryce> so I think we drop a lot of issues just because we have to focus on the original reporter's issue to the exclusion of the me-too-ers; we ask them to file separate bugs, but I don't know how often they actually do
[20:52] <jcristau> i don't think there's another way
[20:53]  * bryce nods
[20:55] <jcristau> (of course, just when i think debian users are marginally better, i see a bug filed on amule for the same issue, and i get another on xserver-xorg-core)
[20:57] <bryce> heh
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #184169 in xorg-server (universe) "eclipse crashes on launching with a bad alloc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184169
[22:55] <tjaalton> I'll merge the xserver for hardy
[22:55] <tjaalton> now that the fix is included in debian \o/
[22:57] <jcristau> meh. clueless people ranting on lwn...
[22:58] <tjaalton> jcristau: link?
[22:59] <jcristau> http://lwn.net/Articles/265754/
[23:00] <tjaalton> haha
[23:00] <tjaalton> "once again"..
[23:00] <tjaalton> he has a good memory
[23:01] <tjaalton> it's been 1.5 years without any incident though ;)
[23:01] <tjaalton> and this time really hurt all the distros
[23:02] <jcristau> well there was a bit of trouble with the last libX11 fix too
[23:02] <tjaalton> oh right
[23:02] <tjaalton> my memory isn't that great
[23:02] <jcristau> :)

[23:14] <tjaalton> duh, I'm having hard time merging/pulling with a tag.. it keeps getting it all
[23:14] <jcristau> git-pull . tag <tag>
[23:15] <tjaalton> hmm
[23:16] <tjaalton> yeah, looks a lot better, thanks
[23:16] <tjaalton> not that the patch wouldn't be useful, but it messes up the changelog
[23:41] <ubotu> New bug: #184191 in vlc (universe) "(gutsy) vlc crash on startup (serial 472 error_code 11) (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184191
[23:46] <ubotu> New bug: #184192 in vlc (universe) "vlc wont start (hardy) (dup-of: 183969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184192


[01:07] <lathiat> Can anyone tell me if I can somehow login to a maas node running enlistment, to debug the enlistment not working?
[01:12] <lathiat> ah found it, backdoor
[01:38] <lathiat> Ah so my problem is maas is giving the DNS server for the region as it's primary interface, which goes through the router.. so the maas server is upset that the traffic is coming in and out different interfaces
[01:38] <lathiat> tada
[09:51] <mup> Bug #1471728 opened: MAAS web frontend hangs at Nodes listing if cluster not reachable <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471728>
[10:00] <mup> Bug #1471728 changed: MAAS web frontend hangs at Nodes listing if cluster not reachable <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471728>
[10:09] <mup> Bug #1471728 opened: MAAS web frontend hangs at Nodes listing if cluster not reachable <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471728>
[10:09] <mup> Bug #1471731 opened: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[10:12] <mup> Bug #1471731 changed: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[10:18] <mup> Bug #1471731 opened: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[15:58] <ltrager> roaksoax_: morning
[16:01] <roaksoax_> ltrager: morning
[19:19] <mup> Bug #1471946 opened: Installing on vivid yields a cluster not running because /var/lib/maas/secret is not there yet <MAAS:New for andreserl> <MAAS 1.8:New for andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471946>
[21:07] <bmorriso> I have a question about zones
[21:07] <bmorriso> It seems this is used for physical separation -- to ensure you don't provision a host in the same dc/rack/chassis/etc?
[21:08] <bmorriso> Is it possible to have a zone of a zone? So this chassis is in this rack, in this cage, in this DC? And I want MAAS to not deploy to a host that's in the same chassis, in the same rack, in the same DC...
[21:39] <roaksoax> bmorriso: no you can't have a zone of a zone unfortunately
[21:39] <roaksoax> bmorriso: but you can create tags
[21:39] <bmorriso> Yeah, I wondered about leveraging tags.
[21:40] <roaksoax> bmorriso: we would normally use tags for that kind of separation
[21:40] <bmorriso> Fair enough. I'm OK with that. We're still evaluating MAAS and figuring out how to use it and how it fits in our environment.
[21:41] <roaksoax> bmorriso: cool. Are you using 1.8 ?
[21:41] <bmorriso> Just upgraded last week.
[21:41] <bmorriso> Been using it since 1.6
[21:41] <roaksoax> bmorriso: ah yeah, 1.6 is horrible :)
[21:41] <bmorriso> Got the job done, but yeah...My gripes about 1.8 are largely UI/UX
[21:42] <bmorriso> Also it seems pserv.log defaults to `/dev/null` o_O
[21:42] <bmorriso> But otherwise, it's treated me well.
[21:42] <roaksoax> bmorriso: not really. The log is now clusterd.log and regiond.log instead of pserv.log
[21:42] <bmorriso> Oh, I was looking at a config the other night, it said '/dev/null`
[21:43] <bmorriso> In 1.7 I had problems with pserv, so I was looking for that log in 1.8
[21:43] <roaksoax> bmorriso: yeah we changed the config in 1.8. 1.9 will completely drop pserv.yaml, maas_cluster.yaml in favor of clusterd.conf and maas_local_settings.py in favor of regiond.conf
[21:44] <bmorriso> Awesome. Looking forward to it.
[21:44] <roaksoax> bmorriso: 1.9 will support both network and storage config as well
[21:44] <bmorriso> Any intentions of giving Curtin's docs more love in 1.8.x/1.9?
[21:45] <roaksoax> bmorriso: it is in the TODO. Definitely something we want to improve
[21:45] <bmorriso> I've managed to hack around most of my problems with help from this channel. But it puts my coworkers off who are less adventurous.
[21:46] <roaksoax> bmorriso: hehe, yeah curtin has really neat features but upstream (the maas team is not upstream of curtin) also lacks docs
[21:47] <roaksoax> bmorriso: so we are definitely looking to improve that for sure
[21:47] <roaksoax> bmorriso: and it is in the todo
[21:47] <bmorriso> No doubt. A one-page (sort of not-really-public) README leaves a lot to be desired.
[21:48] <roaksoax> indeed. But hopefully we can improve that this time
[21:49] <bmorriso> I actually have in the works a curtin installer that clones our ansible repo and runs a playbook to further the provisioning process.
[22:05] <wolverineav> 'Any intentions of giving Curtin's docs more love in 1.8.x/1.9?' +1 to that :)
[22:08] <wolverineav> on a related note, I'm currently copying some scripts over using wget in curtin. it works fine. the next step is to 'chmod +x /path/to/script.sh' - where it complains /path/to/script.sh doesn't exist. is there something that I'm missing?
[22:09] <wolverineav> I've tried to use the {{TARGET_MP}} and {{TARGET_MOUNT_POINT}} env variables, but its not available in the late_commands context
[23:36] <catbus1> wolverineav: have you tried $TARGET_MOUNT_POINT?
[23:37] <wolverineav> catbus1: let me give it a try
[23:56] <wolverineav> ah, I seem to have hit a bug similar to the one seen before: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1405998 my current maas.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11833449/
[23:56] <wolverineav> # lsof -u maas | grep CLOSE_WAIT | wc -l  - the output shows 984
[23:57] <wolverineav> so i restart maas related services like dhcpd, regiond, clusterd, bind9 and then try again. and it works.
[23:58] <wolverineav> maas version is 1.8. should I create a bug? or it has already been handled in the trunk branch?


[05:23] <Gim6626> HI all! I'm trying to install ubuntu-18.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso to our Supermicro 216-9 production server and got disk configuring "curtin" failure saying "Please report this error in Launchpad". Before reporting I decided to ask here. Screenshot of error - https://ibb.co/0KfDk1N, screenshot of full installer output tail - https://ibb.co/RN7CKFt
[05:23] <Gim6626> (it says "local variable 'extended_part_no' referenced before assignment"). This server got disks array with 3 drives groups, I'm installing Ubuntu on recently added 3rd group consisting of one SSD disk and selected "Use entire disk" during installation. Could anybody tell me should I really report a bug or search for help somewhere?
[05:31] <Gim6626> I've made a little research and seems that bug is here - https://ibb.co/NnzRBMP (https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/curtin/blob/master/curtin/commands/block_meta.py, lines 631-638), there are search in array and variable may be unreferenced if search is failed and this is not handled.
[05:54] <Gim6626> Submitted to https://bugs.launchpad.net/curtin/+bug/1861251
[05:55] <guiverc> thanks Gim6626


[09:20] <makara> hi. On 18.04, why can i only set the nfs mount options rsize, wsize, and timeo to the default values? I get invalid argument if they differ
[13:29] <RoyK> makara1: I don't think those are needed anymore - not for years
[13:32] <makara1> i see, so its just had concrete poured over it
[13:49] <smoser> paride: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-utils/pull/11
[13:49] <smoser> and just fyi... i'm not sure why, but I can't even request a review on that. (add a reviewer)
[14:12] <paride> smoser, I assigned myself, but rick_h just updated the repo permissions so you should be able to request or pick reviews now
[14:16] <smoser> ack
[15:39] <Ussat> https://github.com/microsoft/ProcMon-for-Linux
[16:57] <dontlook> hello, is here a good place to ask a subiquity autoinstall question?
[16:57] <dontlook> I'm looking to build a config that assumes the device has only one active ethernet link and assigns it an IP, but I don't want to have to enumerate the interface name for every machine.
[16:57] <dontlook> used to be you could pretty much count on eth0, but I know that is changed and my understanding is the names now have something to do with the mac address?  Is there a virtual name that is more generic like eth0?
[16:59] <ahasenack> someone here might know, but another good place to ask this is in the forum, let me get you a link
[16:59] <ahasenack> there is an autoinstall topic
[17:00] <ahasenack> dontlook: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/please-test-autoinstalls-for-20-04/
[17:01] <ahasenack> also this maybe: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/automated-server-install-quickstart/
[17:11] <dontlook> ahhhh it looks like this is covered in netplan with match and set-name
[17:11] <dontlook> that is pretty cool
[18:39] <evit> Were there kernel patches yesterday?
[18:41] <evit> Not seeming them here https://ubuntu.com/security/notices
[18:44] <sbeattie> evit: yes, well, partially published yesterday, landing in the security pockets a couple of hours ago, at most. I'm working on publishing the notices now.
[18:49] <evit> sbeattie, Great, I was hoping I wasn't hallucinating again. =P
[18:49] <evit> Or getting 'imaginary' updates no one else is getting =()


[06:09] <imanewbie> hello
[06:10] <imanewbie> anyone on here?
[06:10] <bioterror> Unit193 is here
[06:10] <imanewbie> ok, uh can i possibly get some help installing lubuntu?
[06:10] <bioterror> sure
[06:10] <imanewbie> i've got ubuntu natty already installed and who like some help
[06:10] <bioterror> but im off, my train arrived the destination
[06:11] <imanewbie> i executed the ppa commands and have the option to select gdm or lxdm
[06:11] <imanewbie> which one should i choose?
[06:11] <Unit193> Are you looking to fully convert to Lubuntu?
[06:12] <Unit193> (ppa commands being the install of lubuntu-desktop ?)
[06:12] <imanewbie> hopefully. ubuntu is a resource killer on my laptop, so i'm looking for another distro or anything
[06:12] <Unit193> LXDM should do it
[06:13] <imanewbie> yeah the commands were
[06:13] <imanewbie> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <Unit193> You also may want to have a read of
[06:14] <Unit193> !purelxde
[06:15] <Unit193> That really didn't work... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[06:15] <imanewbie> haha thanks.
[06:15] <imanewbie> but i thought lubuntu was a desktop environment? sorry for being somewhat clueless, but i thought lubuntu was sort of installed 'over' ubuntu
[06:17] <Unit193> You can do it that way, but that page will show you how to remove the default gnome/Ubuntu programs (Not default Lubuntu programs)
[06:18] <imanewbie> alright thanks
[06:18] <imanewbie> Terminal is done running commands, so i'm guessing I just need to restart?
[06:18] <imanewbie> Well, Update Manager came up and the list of updates doesn't seem to include anything related to lubuntu
[06:19] <Unit193> From that website? Sure
[06:19] <imanewbie> nono
[06:19] <imanewbie> I still haven't run anything from that website
[06:19] <Unit193> Ah! Sorry
[06:19] <imanewbie> i haven't even been into lubuntu yet
[06:19] <Unit193> You *should* just be able to logout then back in
[06:20] <Unit193> (As long as you select Lubuntu Session)
[06:20] <imanewbie> okay. then I'll be back in a second
[06:24] <iamnewbie> alright well I tried logging out and logging into lubuntu, but nothing changed
[06:25] <iamnewbie> f
[06:26] <iamnewbie>
[06:26] <Unit193> Baah... I forgot that you had to change the *dm, you may need to reboot
[06:27] <Unit193> Did you still use GDM for login?>
[06:28] <iamnewbie> No I chose the LX--
[06:28] <iamnewbie> I forget what it was, but I chose the one starting with L
[06:29] <iamnewbie> I'm guessing I should just do a reboot?
[06:29] <Unit193> LXDM. Did your login screen look different? I would really doubt it. You may need to reboot for the changes to take action
[06:30] <iamnewbie> No, everything looked the exact same when I logged out
[06:31] <Unit193> Yep! Time to reboot!
[06:31] <iamnewbie> alright be back in a minute or two
[06:38] <iamnewbie> Alright I'm back again (!!!)
[06:39] <iamnewbie> Lubuntu seems to have been installed, but I couldn't log in
[06:39] <iamnewbie> I tried all sorts of username/pw combinations, but I couldn't log in...
[06:40] <Unit193> Do you remember your username?
[06:40] <iamnewbie> Yeah, it was simple: BK
[06:40] <iamnewbie> but it just wouldn't work...
[06:41] <iamnewbie> any work around to this?
[06:45] <Unit193> Not that I know of... You should be able to login into single user mode and see for sure what your username and even reset your password if you need to (Shouldn't if you can use sudo)
[06:46] <Unit193> bioterror: You don't happen to be back yet?
[06:46] <iamnewbie> oh god...
[06:47] <Unit193> iamnewbie: Hit ctrl+alt+f1 and see if you can login there (What are you using for IRC?)
[06:48] <iamnewbie> me?
[06:49] <iamnewbie> Because I have no idea.
[06:49] <Unit193> Does your password have a space?
[06:50] <iamnewbie> no it doesn't
[06:51] <Unit193> You can't hit ctrl+alt+f1? It should drop you to an easy way to make sure your login info works (It will ask for your username, hit enter, then pass)
[06:58] <iamnewbie> Sooo CTRL + ALT + F1 didn't help
[06:58] <iamnewbie> I have no idea why either
[06:59] <Unit193> Did it switch to a text display?
[06:59] <iamnewbie> yep
[07:05] <iamnewbie> Alright so the text display didn't work again
[07:05] <iamnewbie> It gave me a prompt of 'BK-ub login:
[07:06] <Unit193> That would be the computername
[07:06] <iamnewbie> and I tried entering my login username, leaving it blank, and a bunch of random stuff
[07:06] <iamnewbie> but nothing worked
[07:08] <Unit193> Do you see the grub menu on boot? If not, hit left shift and goto recovery mode. When you are in recovery mode, type ls /home   just to make sure you have the right username, then   sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[07:10] <Unit193> If you didn't type the correct username that is
[07:10] <iamnewbie> haha okay
[07:10] <iamnewbie> so first i type
[07:10] <iamnewbie> ls /home
[07:10] <iamnewbie> then
[07:10] <iamnewbie> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[07:10] <iamnewbie> ?
[07:11] <Unit193> Yep! If you find the username isn't something you tried, login with that before the second command (we are switching you back to GDM)
[07:12] <iamnewbie> and being in recovery mode should display some sort of terminal-like thing?
[07:12] <Unit193> Yes
[07:12] <iamnewbie> last question before i try it: i have BURG installed and so i should try doing 'left shift' before BURG starts?
[07:13] <Unit193> Hmmm... Do you see the recovery mode in burg? And are you on that computer now?
[07:14] <iamnewbie> well i dual-boot, so I'm in windows right now
[07:14] <iamnewbie> that's why i have to keep leaving this  chat
[07:14] <iamnewbie> well, i'm just gonna go and see what awaits me!!!
[07:15] <Unit193> Looks like I need to take a look at BURG...
[07:23] <iamnewbie> Well, thanks for the help, but I'm gonna have to try again later
[07:23] <Unit193> What went wrong? ( bioterror should have a shot at it...)
[07:23] <iamnewbie> I'm gonna need 2 computers to use at once because I don't know my way around the recovery mode of linux and am afraid of doing something
[07:23] <iamnewbie> well, first i wasn't really sure which recovery mode to choose
[07:24] <iamnewbie> there was a linux #.##.# -8 recovery mode and a linux#.##.#-32 recovery mode
[07:24] <Unit193> -32
[07:24] <iamnewbie> i chose 32 and it was going, but seemed to hang
[07:25] <iamnewbie> i actually had the option to go to terminal while i was in burg
[07:25] <iamnewbie> but the ls /home command didn't do anything
[07:25] <Unit193> I am guessing it was the grub terminal (Not normal linux one)
[07:25] <iamnewbie> well when i ran 'sudo dpkgo-reconfigure lxdm,' i got a message that sudo isn't a valid input
[07:26] <iamnewbie> oh ok
[07:26] <Unit193> If the one hung, you could always try the other (or wait for another day..)
[07:26] <iamnewbie> but does it normally take a lot logner to get into recovery mode?
[07:27] <Unit193> Shouldn't. I'm booting my VM to take a look
[07:27] <iamnewbie> it was doing a bunch of checks, and everything seemed to check fine, except for one
[07:28] <iamnewbie> i forget which one it was, but it returned a [Fail] at the end of the line
[07:28] <iamnewbie> and i could switch between the text results, and the Lubuntu screen loading with the arrow keys
[07:31] <iamnewbie> so i'm going to try again tomorrow
[13:06] <silverarrow> hi
[14:59] <silverarrow> lubuntu works great!
[14:59] <silverarrow> I've been using it for about a month now
[15:00] <silverarrow> however I am not that happy with the major updates, to new versions of lubuntu
[15:00] <silverarrow> it causes a lot of work and fuzz


[14:45] <luna_> The translation site for Hirsute does not work for me? but maybe it has not opened yet as the cycle is still closed
[14:45] <tomwardill> luna_: translations are in the process of being opened
[14:45] <tomwardill> needs some co-ordinations from multiple teams
[14:46] <luna_> tomwardill: ah alright :) will help when they are open can one guess they open when the cycle starts on Thursday ?
[14:47] <tomwardill> we're waiting for the first batch of initial imports to go through, which can take a few days. It might be by Thursday, it might not, we can't give a precise date unfortunately :(
[14:47] <luna_> ah its all alright :)
[14:47] <luna_> i will sit calm in the boat and wait
[16:23] <cjwatson> luna_: Next week is probably more realistic than Thursday (I'm not sure where this idea of the cycle starting on Thursday comes from ...)
[16:26] <luna_> cjwatson: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hanimal-release-schedule/18539 the Toolchain Upload date but maybe i missunderstood
[16:26] <luna_> but thanks
[16:27] <cjwatson> luna_: OK, that's not the start of cycle, that's just an estimate of one early development step
[16:28] <cjwatson> luna_: Technically the cycle starts as soon as the previous release happens, but it often takes some time to get various things in place
[16:28] <cjwatson> toolchain upload is *end* of week 1, but as I say, very much an estimate :)
[16:29] <cjwatson> (in practice, toolchain upload is "as soon as possible, so that other things can start")
[16:30] <luna_> ah alright
[20:23] <arunpyasi> Hello everyone, Is it possible to set a preference Pin priority in Launchpad?
[20:26] <arunpyasi> cjwatson, are you around?
[20:34] <pappacena> Hey, arunpyasi . cjwatson is probably not available. But I didn't get what you mean by "set a preference pin priority". Where exactly?
[20:35] <arunpyasi> pappacena, I wanted to override the version from Ubuntu repository and use packages from my repository.
[20:36] <arunpyasi> Something like we do inside /etc/apt/preferences.d/
[20:41] <pappacena> Hum. cjwatson can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we have this option at Launchpad. What is possible is adding other PPA dependencies to your PPA, so you can upload newer versions of the packages you need...
[20:43] <cjwatson> Yes, as you say
[20:48] <arunpyasi> Ok, so if I need to have an old dependency in the PPA so that I can build my other packages inside LP, then I need to like just use higher version in changelong?
[20:48] <arunpyasi> *changelog
[20:49] <arunpyasi> Is there any other solution to use old dependency than faking the version?
[20:51] <cjwatson> You must use a higher version (well, or change the package name, but that's likely more effort)
[21:08] <arunpyasi> OK cjwatson Thanks for your help! :)
[22:10] <juliank> I just realized that if Packages etc were like zstd compressed with a fixed dictionary, you'd probably get an rsyncable format that compresses well, allowing you to do zsync like stuff for the repo
[22:11] <juliank> I need to test that at some point
[22:12] <juliank> (because generally the problem is that this stuff does not compress well if we compress in blocks, because we get all those duplicates in key names and package names we want to dedup)
[22:12] <juliank> (not sure how well it works like that)