[00:00] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: exact errors matter
[00:00] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: let me try to copy paste it from your original post, give me a min
[00:00] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: you can use the "tab" key to let filenames and pathes to be completed automatically.
[00:00] <Poutsa> hello
[00:01] <Poutsa> is this config fine
[00:01] <Poutsa>  http://tinyurl.com/pq4fpj8 ?
[00:01] <Estupend0> Good evening, I need help with permissions. Anybody can help me?
[00:01] <k1l> dont clikc the link, its NSFW
[00:02] <_war10ck_> k1l: By mistake I clicked that, please kick him
[00:04] <Estupend0> I've connected the hard drive of my dead macbook pro to another laptop with Ubuntu. I've opened Nautilus from the terminal (sudo nautilus) and it doesn't let me manipulate the files in that hd, only reading and copying.
[00:04] <Estupend0> Any advice?
[00:04] <daftykins> Estupend0: yes HFS+ writing isn't recommended
[00:04] <bekks> Estupend0: The Mac filesystems cant be written safely.
[00:04] <k1l> Estupend0: dont use sudo nautilus in the first place
[00:05] <Estupend0> Ahm, thanks. k1l, what then?
[00:05] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, i copy pasted that command, and I get a ' no such file or directory'
[00:06] <Estupend0> So I should only copy those files to my Ubuntu hd and then safely manipulate them, right?
[00:06] <k1l> Estupend0: and second: hfs+ is read-only afaik. so get your backup from that hdd
[00:06] <Estupend0> Right, that's what I thought.
[00:07] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: which command? i dont see what you see. think of describing your mechanik what is broken on your car on the phone. "its broken" doenst work
[00:07] <Estupend0> One thing else: how can I quickly change the permissions for a folder and everything inside it?
[00:07] <Nady> k1l can you help me with xdman as well
[00:07] <wedgie> greetings. I have an install of xubuntu 14.04 and a system with UEFI. it'll boot just fine with the original 3.11 kernel that it installed with, but won't boot with any of the kernel updates (have to select the old kernel out of the grub menu)
[00:07] <k1l> Nady: can you explain a bit more? there are several programs using the name xdm
[00:08] <wedgie> i suspect that it is uefi related but not sure. It just stops after it says "initializing initial ramdisk"
[00:08] <bubbasaures> wedgie, If you run sudo update-grub are they from the latest to the oldest top to botoom?
[00:08] <bubbasaures> bottom*
[00:08] <Estupend0> k1l, thank you so much. And one last thing:
[00:08] <wedgie> bubbasaures: yes
[00:09] <Estupend0> how can I quickly change the permissions for a folder and everything inside it?
[00:09] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, I copy pasted this command on my surface pro terminal:     'sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/usb8797_uapsta.bin'        then it responds 'cp: cannot stat 'usb8797_uapsta.bin' : no such file or directory
[00:09] <Nady> xtreme download manager
[00:09] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: are you in the folder where the file is? "ls -al" should list the file
[00:09] <mememeffs> Hey Can anyone either point me to docs on how to install or check if " the ca-certificates package" is already installed?
[00:09] <Nady> k1l  xtreme download manager
[00:10] <bubbasaures> wedgie, You might try again now, I thought a update-grub in a efi worked.
[00:10] <k1l> !info xdman
[00:11] <wedgie> bubbasaures: meaning that the 'update-grub' command i just ran ought to fix it?
[00:11] <mememeffs> pretty please :-D, im really lost and have spent hours trying to get ssl to work with my app
[00:11] <daftykins> mememeffs: i'm sure it will be. "sudo apt-get install ca-certificates"
[00:11] <toothe> I just installed an ubuntu package, but then ctrl-C'd it. How do I uninstall it? When I do 'remove' it says its not installed.
[00:11] <Nady> k1l xtreme download manager install karna hai
[00:11] <wedgie> bubbasaures: the last time i ran updates which included a kernel update was just a little while ago (an hour maybe)
[00:11] <bubbasaures> wedgie, Yes, this should also be run automatically on kernel update/upgrades.
[00:11] <toothe> Is there a way to remove all packages that are not finished or used?
[00:12] <daftykins> toothe: sudo apt-get -f install <-- first
[00:12] <daftykins> toothe: clear the package download cache via "sudo apt-get clean"
[00:12] <toothe> done.
[00:12] <toothe> okay, did tha ttoo.
[00:12] <k1l> Nady: it is not common on ubuntu to use such windows download managers
[00:12] <toothe> I was installing kubuntu-desktop, but realized half-way through that I just want the kbuntu-core. So the ctrl-c stopped, but didn't uninstall anything.
[00:13] <bubbasaures> wedgie, I'm trying to see if this is not what happened, ubuntu updates kernels than grub is the norm.
[00:13] <toothe> daftykins: so for exmaple, i still have libreoffice installed.
[00:13] <LemonSqueeze> k1l; I remember you told me to start terminal from the downloads folder... I just started terminal straight up from unity, did I do something wrong there?
[00:13] <daftykins> toothe: not sure what you want me to say, to those :)
[00:14] <Nady> k1l xdman is ubuntu program
[00:14] <toothe> fair enough...
[00:14] <toothe> maybe I should just install the whole thing, then uninstall.
[00:14] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: you need to place the command i gave you in the location where the file actually is.
[00:14] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: i dont know where you put that file onto your surface at all.
[00:15] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: again: you still need to think here. i dont know what you are doing and cant see it.
[00:15] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: the file i downloaded from the link you gave me is in my downloads folder
[00:16] <MeXTuX> I can connect to a server using SSH without typing a password from computer A. Now I am using a another computer (say computer B) and want to connect to the server through SSH. How can I copy SSH key from computer A to computer B in order to connect to the server???
[00:16] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: then move yourself in the terminal into that folder. keep in mind, that ubuntu is case-sensitive. so it *might* be "cd Downloads" but you need to correct that to your actual situation
[00:17] <bekks> MeXTuX: Thats not how things work. Instead, you configure the host and B.
[00:17] <bekks> MeXTuX: Give me a second for a tutorial please.
[00:18] <pw1960> hello
[00:18] <bekks> MeXTuX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[00:21] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: i told you another comand to check if the file is in your actual location: "ls -l" if it doesnt list that file the cp command will not work
[00:22] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8875107/
[00:23] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: ok, lets speed this up, a lot.
[00:23] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: quick answer: is "ls -l" listing the file?
[00:23] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: yes it is
[00:24] <OerHeks> sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/ # will do
[00:24] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: it is showing total 450 -rw-r--r-- 1 grady 551720 Nov 7 2014 mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin
[00:25] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: ok. sorry i mixed cp and mv, see OerHeks command. that will work
[00:25] <OerHeks> cp or mv does no harm here, i guess, only the destination was wrong
[00:27] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: should I include the '#' or input the usb8797_uapsta.bin     ?
[00:27] <OerHeks> no, that # was for the comment
[00:27] <OerHeks> sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/
[00:27] <k1l> stop before the # but it will not include everything after the # anyway
[00:32] <axizor> Hi, quick question. I installed gdm on ubuntu 14.04 which changed my desktop to gnome, and I want to go back to unity now.
[00:32] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, i am in /Downloads$, which is where my file is.... i input the command "sudo cp usb8797_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/" and I still get cp: cannot stat "usb8797_uapsta.bin" : no such file or directory
[00:32] <axizor> I reconfigured and am back on lightdm, but want to know how to get the unity desktop back
[00:33] <Bashing-om> axizor: Have you tried selecting your user session in the login box ?
[00:33] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: please make sure the command names exactly the name that the file actually got
[00:34] <KALEGEK> gr8 OS m8
[00:34] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: file name is abcd  and you command: copy qwert. so he is not gonna copy anything
[00:35] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: the file name is mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin so please use that.
[00:35] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: justrealized that too, and i think it moved.... i got no error file this time
[00:36] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, no errors or "ok" is good !
[00:36] <OerHeks> that is how linux works
[00:36] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: yes, it is in the file now
[00:36] <KALEGEK> i wish linux had installers just as noobish as Mac
[00:37] <KALEGEK> just install a dmz file, or remove a folder to uninstall
[00:37] <Axizor-1> Axizor back here, I just went to the user login screen to change sessions as you suggested, and when ti tried to log back in, the screen goes black and redirects me to the login screen again. No failed password message or anything like that.
[00:37] <k1l> KALEGEK: ubuntu got a package system. its very easy to use.
[00:37] <KALEGEK> i know but it could be simpler
[00:37] <Axizor-1> Ever since I installed gdm it's like I broke the gui
[00:38] <k1l> Axizor-1: make sure in that users home the .Xauthority file belongs to your user and not root
[00:38] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: so now that it is in the right file, do i need to run it? cause no wifi options show up....
[00:38] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: try a reboot
[00:39] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, reboot that machine to make that driver active (if there are no other instructions)
[00:39] <KALEGEK> tried ubuntu on my android phone, still cool, wish they would hurry up and make it final
[00:39] <OerHeks> no guarantees as far as i understand from many webpages, wireless N can be a pain
[00:40] <k1l> OerHeks: he is on a surface  pro 2.
[00:40] <OerHeks> k1l, i know
[00:40] <k1l> alright
[00:42] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: ok, rebooted, still got nothing.... fyi OerHeks: if you didnt already know we are going off this page https://jaxbot.me/articles/running-ubuntu-on-a-surface-pro-2-off-the-metal-video-5-26-14
[00:44] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: try renaming that to usb8797_uapsta.bin
[00:44] <OerHeks> k1l, LemonSqueeze one thing bothers me, the file is called mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin and all files in that folder have no mrvl-  prefix
[00:44] <OerHeks> ah
[00:45] <blueyed> Where is the user's pulseaudio server started from? There is /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop - but that calls start-pulseaudio-x11, which only issues pactl commands.
[00:46] <et09> i'm looking for the equivalent of lighttpd/nginx for imap+smtp... if anyone has any suggestions
[00:46] <OerHeks> sudo mw /lib/firmware/mrvl/mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/usb8798_uapsta.bin
[00:47] <OerHeks> ouch, mw typo, my bad  >>  sudo mv /lib/firmware/mrvl/mrvl-usb8798_uapsta.bin /lib/firmware/mrvl/usb8798_uapsta.bin
[00:47] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: i just renamed it in the downloads folder and moved it again if thats ok
[00:48] <Surendil> et09: sendmail or postfix
[00:48] <blueyed> et09: are you looking for a MTA or a proxy?
[00:48] <k1l> LemonSqueeze: ok then reboot again
[00:49] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: aight it works! BUT! now my keyboard and stylus dont work ahha
[00:50] <LemonSqueeze> k1l:
[00:51] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: never mind, rebooted it 4 times in a row
[00:51] <LemonSqueeze> k1l: now it works, thanks both of you for the help!
[00:52] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, enable screen keyboard, and setup bluetooth with your keyboard i guess
[00:53] <corax> Skype 4.3 in ubuntu 12.04 ...how do i get sound/mic to work?
[00:54] <Hulio> hi guys
[00:55] <Hulio> ubuntu and mac which is faster OS?
[00:55] <k1l> Hulio: obviously ubuntu, when you ask in a ubuntu channel
[00:55] <Hulio> oh
[00:55] <bekks> Hulio: Doesnt matter. And cant be benchmarked actually.
[00:55] <OerHeks> Hulio, faster in what, updates?
[00:55] <OerHeks> \o/ubuntu wins
[00:55] <Hulio> faster in speed, given the same spec and same machine
[00:56] <Hulio> assuming hackintosh
[00:56]  * bubbasaures rolls their one eye
[00:56] <KALEGEK> lubuntu yes!
[00:56] <KALEGEK> try LXDE
[00:56] <OerHeks> Hulio, test it yurself, depends on your machine config
[00:56] <KALEGEK> it ran on my android s2
[00:56] <k1l> Hulio: i think that better suits in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:56] <Hulio> i do test them
[00:56] <bekks> Hulio: Hackintosh isnt supported at all. Invalid requirement.
[00:56] <KALEGEK> through emulation
[00:56] <azizLIGHT> in the dash, when i search for something, and its icon shows up in the search results, what determines the icon it uses? and where do i find this file so i can change the icon to what i want?
[00:56] <Hulio> i found that ubuntu is faster
[00:56] <KALEGEK> i don't think you can run OSX on a android phone ;)
[00:57] <Hulio> i'm just wanting to check out :)
[00:57] <bekks> Hulio: Did you use a Apple computer? I assume no, since you mentioned hackintosh.
[00:57] <Hulio> i'm going to boot into ubuntu
[00:57] <Hulio> bye
[00:58] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Icons
[00:58] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: /usr/share/applications/ , the .desktop file contains the icon info
[00:59] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: its not there. what im looking for
[00:59] <OerHeks> icons are stored in either /usr/share/icons or /usr/local/share/icons and icons for user themes are stored in ~/.icons
[00:59] <hulio> it is faster :)
[00:59] <azizLIGHT> is there another location alternative to /usr/share/applications where desktop files are stored
[00:59] <inerkick> Hi I'm getting this issue when try to update/upgrade my Ubuntu 12.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8871032/
[00:59] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: what are you looking for?
[00:59] <hulio> can ubuntu write to mac drive?
[01:00] <azizLIGHT> OerHeks: am looking to change an application icon. not find icons
[01:00] <k1l> inerkick: are you kidding me?
[01:00] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: civilization v
[01:00] <OerHeks> inerkick, correct, 12.10 is EOL, upgrade please
[01:00] <hulio> or is it only read   HF+
[01:00] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: it all works now, but if you dont mind, I could use some help with something else... everytime i click drag something with my mousepad,  this shows up, "http://imgur.com/dyy8Hem"    but it doesnt show when I use my usb mouse
[01:00] <inerkick> how to
[01:00] <k1l> inerkick: i told you several times now that you need to change the sources. do you not listen at all? then stop coming in here and asking
[01:00] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: it shows the wrong icon: standard steam icon
[01:00] <k1l> !eolupgrade  | inerkick
[01:00] <bubbasaures> inerkick, 12.10 needs an eol upgrade, and sevral more to get to a supported 14.04, you might do a fresh install
[01:00] <waykool99> My location: Green Bay, United States
[01:01] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, looks like you draged it on to an other file, that is your error
[01:01] <k1l> inerkick: dont come back in here before you did read the whole page the bot linked to you now. dont come back
[01:02] <inerkick> I tried that, k1l I changed the sources.. Didn't work hence came back
[01:02] <inerkick> will try to get fresh one
[01:02] <k1l> inerkick: i bet you didnt. read the wiki. change the sources. upgrade
[01:02] <inerkick> or try again. Will think of it bubbasaures
[01:02] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: No thats not the problem, its actually whenever I click hold anything with my mousepad, that Icon shows up... even when click holding the desktop it shows up
[01:03] <azizLIGHT> i got it. its in ~/.local/share/applications
[01:03] <azizLIGHT> so thanks for the hint EriC^^
[01:03] <KALEGEK> OerHeks, you are dutch? :D
[01:04] <corax> inerkick  i usually copy the home folder to another medium ... then i take note of the apps installed ... and then the setting in etc ... then i reinstall from usb or cd ... and then restore home folder
[01:04] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, not sure if it is a mouse setting, go into systemsettings > mouse and see if you can change double click speed?
[01:04] <OerHeks> KALEGEK, si
[01:05] <Fuark> someone here understands about language C
[01:05] <Fuark> ?
[01:05] <k1l> Fuark: see alis if you find a c language channel on freenode
[01:05] <k1l> !alis | Fuark
[01:06] <Fuark> THX
[01:06] <OerHeks> Fuark, try ##c or ##c++
[01:06] <cryptodan> In all honesty it wouldbe easier to keep and maintain a separate /home partition
[01:06] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: i changed the double click speed but this still shows up
[01:07] <k1l> or just to use the update. but the user is not able to read a wiki page and fix the old-release sources since days.
[01:07] <corax> cryptodan not a bad idea
[01:08] <cryptodan> even better with non-ssd drives being cheap keep home on a separate drive all together
[01:08] <daftykins> not all of your /home, the best setup just symlinks your large static media to a mechanical
[01:08] <daftykins> that way application configs stay on SSD speed
[01:10] <OerHeks> LemonSqueeze, can't help you there, i found no hints in the many howto's
[01:11] <LemonSqueeze> OerHeks: ok, thanks for all the help!
[01:13] <l0rdn1x> It's nice running this 14.04.1LTS
[01:14] <mircolillo> .xchat2/budus.so
[01:22] <schtinky> my font size, especially in eclipse, keeps changing in 14.04... wtf is going on?
[01:22] <schtinky> it happens every few months and I never can remember how I fixed it last time
[01:22] <KALEGEK> read only config file?
[01:22] <KALEGEK> make it read only maybe
[01:22] <schtinky> always happens after a system update
[01:31] <frederick> hi
[01:31] <KALEGEK> hi
[01:32] <KALEGEK> wooha, didn't know 1700 people were in this room
[01:32] <frederick> how clean my ubuntu OS 14.04
[01:32] <frederick> i need that my ubuntu consume minimun ram
[01:32] <Surendil> frederick: what do mean?
[01:32] <KALEGEK> the quick way>
[01:32] <KALEGEK> ?
[01:32] <KALEGEK> oww
[01:32] <KALEGEK> uhhh
[01:33] <KALEGEK> use Lubuntu?
[01:33] <OerHeks> !info bleachit
[01:33] <OerHeks> !info bleachbit
[01:33] <l0rdn1x> frederick, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:34] <frederick> can remove all libraries, additional processes that consume ram my system without affecting
[01:34] <schtinky>  so surely everyone else is experiencing this same thing... ubuntu 14.04 system updates are changing my font sizes and window decoration LNF
[01:34] <schtinky> it's the most frustrating thing in the world
[01:34] <l0rdn1x> schtinky, no updates haven't changed anything for me.
[01:34] <KALEGEK> no internet -> closer to the most frustrating thing
[01:34] <daftykins> frederick: you should use lubuntu if you want lightweight
[01:35] <KALEGEK> ;D
[01:35] <k1l> frederick: if you stop services you will loose that services. ubuntu doesnt load stuff just to make your ram full.
[01:35] <KALEGEK> funny just like any os xD
[01:35] <frederick> mm is very good
[01:35] <frederick> thanks,
[01:36] <frederick> really like ubuntu and Unity is very nice
[01:36] <KALEGEK> use a different ubuntu distro frederick
[01:36] <k1l> frederick: what is the issue with your ram usage?
[01:36] <KALEGEK> if cleaning out things, doesn't help
[01:37] <KALEGEK> byebye frederick
[01:37] <l0rdn1x> lol
[01:37] <KALEGEK> lol
[01:37] <KALEGEK> i wanna go crazy, boot with a dos floppy and start ruby to build my os
[01:37] <KALEGEK> xD
[01:38] <k1l> KALEGEK: i bet the users in #ubuntu-offtopic are interested in that  :)
[01:38] <KALEGEK> build a OS with C, i'm in a hurry, how long would it take? xD
[01:39] <daftykins> !ot | KALEGEK
[01:39] <ysolomone> yoapply
[01:39] <KALEGEK> i was just joking, building a OS takes years
[01:39] <KALEGEK> with a team
[01:40] <KALEGEK> !guidelines
[01:42] <l0rdn1x> That was why Linus made Linux, so that students would have a solid base to build an operating system from and not be like him and have to make one from scratch.
[01:45] <daftykins> still off topic people.
[01:50] <feba> Hello! I have trouble with my dual boot (Win7/Ubuntu14.04). For no apparent reason, when I restarted it gave me an error and went straight to grub recovery. I installed lilo and now it goets straight to Windows, without giving an option to boot Ubuntu. None of the solutions I found on forums have worked for me. Do you have any suggestions, please?
[01:52] <bubbasaures> feba, The is a bootrepair tool that works well, or you can chroot from a live ubuntu and grub-install to the mbr
[01:53] <bubbasaures> There*
[01:53] <bubbasaures> feba, I assume with W7 this is a msdos mbr setup.
[01:56] <bubbasaures> feba, Really you want to be here via a live ubuntu boot to fix this.
[01:56] <feba> bubbasaures, I did boot-repair, it made no difference. I also tried grub-install with no effect, but I'm not entirely sure I did it right - I followed instructions on a forum, I'm fairly new to linux
[01:57] <bubbasaures> feba, Did you save the bootinfo summary from the bootrepiar, it tells you to save the url?
[01:57] <feba> bubbasaures, yes, I have the url
[01:58] <bubbasaures> feba, cool, lets see it, and let me know any additional changes made after running it, we may need another run if you have made changes.
[01:58] <OERIAS> hello. I am having trouble deleting files that i do not have permission, i have tried to do this sudo nautilus but it force closes. Any help?
[02:00] <kenny__> Does anyone have problems with slow wifi download speeds?
[02:00] <OerHeks> * gksudo nautilus ( fur gui tools)
[02:00] <feba> bubbasaures, here's the url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8874290/ but yes, we did several things since then, perhaps it'll be easiest to run it again?
[02:00] <OerHeks> OERIAS, what files exactly? not all folders have files that can be deleted
[02:01] <bubbasaures> feba, Try putting the sdb HD read first in the bios, you have grub in the sda that is all windows, sdb has grub as well.
[02:01] <rom1504> kenny__: oh no, you died
[02:01] <OERIAS> OerHeks, it is a folder that I created on a different account, unfortunately I deleted the account months back.
[02:01] <kenny__> on windows I get like 16 mb/s, but on ubuntu im getting .6
[02:02] <bekks> kenny__: which wifi chipset, which driver, which firmware? Name the exact versions please.
[02:02] <rom1504> kenny__: try to get in the next episode
[02:03] <OerHeks> OERIAS, sudo rm -rf /path/to/folder
[02:03] <bubbasaures> feba, Another run of the bootinfo would be good though, you can run just that on that first gui of the bootrepair app.
[02:03] <bekks> OerHeks: OUCH.
[02:03] <bekks> sudo chown ...
[02:04] <luoy_> hello everyone!
[02:04] <OERIAS> OerHeks, and all the files inherit the same permissions after this command?
[02:04] <OerHeks> bekks, that would be an option too, indeed
[02:04] <OerHeks> OERIAS, all files within that folder + folder will be removed yes
[02:05] <bekks> OerHeks: There is no reason for deleting stuff as long as there is a chance for root access.
[02:05] <OERIAS> OerHeks, But I also want to change the permission so that I can delete it in the future
[02:05] <Flannel> bekks: When his goal is "I want to delete things..." then the answer is to delete things :P
[02:05] <bekks> OerHeks: Actually I had one single situation on a corrupted fs where chown would not result in success.
[02:06] <ax562> Im on 12.04 lts 64-bit.  I have 2 screens laptop and display.  I only want the acet display on.  I change through nvidea setting and it works but doesn't stick after reboot.
[02:06] <OERIAS> no Flannel it is not the case
[02:06] <kenny__> what commands do I type in for the chipset/driver/firmware information
[02:06] <bubbasaures> that is a command though that can wipe anything pointed at
[02:06] <bekks> Flannel: when his goal to delete stuff and that requires root access, there is something heavily wrong.
[02:06] <OERIAS> I was to be able to add more files to folder and have permission to read and write
[02:06] <ax562> I have to change display setting everytime i boot into ubuntu
[02:07] <Flannel> bekks: Doesn't require root access, just a different user.  So sudo is one way to do it (he wants to delete things from another user's home directory)
[02:08] <junkanoo> anyone know what this error in my proftpd log means
[02:08] <junkanoo> USER ftp (Login failed): Invalid shell: '/bin/false'
[02:08] <feba> bubbasaures, how can I put sdb HD first? the only option I can see for the order of booting is the choice of external drive / internal drive / network
[02:08] <bubbasaures> ax562, Channel needs details to help.
[02:08] <OerHeks> OERIAS, changing the folder contents:  sudo chown -R $USER /path/to/folder/  # where $USER is short for your current user
[02:08] <ax562> Like?
[02:08] <bekks> Flannel: the actual probem is still unclear. all whats been revealed until now is that someone is trying to use root for deleting things.
[02:08] <bubbasaures> feba, That is a boot choice not the boot order.
[02:08] <Jeroen1> I guys, I tried this cronjob but it doesn't work. Does anyone know how I can find the error? */5 * * * * /etc/php5 /srv/domain.com/globalevents.php 0 >/dev/null 2>&1
[02:09] <bekks> junkanoo: talk to your administrator, he/she set that shell by purpose.
[02:10] <junkanoo> bekks, :) I am the admin
[02:10] <junkanoo> amazon ec2 instance, proftpd
[02:10] <bubbasaures> feba, You should see in the bios a list of the HD's and other media and instructions on how to move them up and down to be seen in the boot.
[02:10] <feba> bubbasaures, "Boot Priority" it says, could you tell me where I can access more options?
[02:10] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: I highly doubt that your PHP binary is located in /etc/php5. Also, the 0 is not needed. Try using the full path to the php binary, type "which php" to find it.
[02:10] <bekks> junkanoo: so fix that issue.
[02:11] <bubbasaures> feba, Are you in the bios?
[02:11] <junkanoo> bekks, hence the question :) how
[02:11] <bekks> junkanoo: set a valid shell?
[02:11] <Jeroen1> which php?
[02:11] <Jeroen1> Doesn't give anything :/
[02:12] <Jeroen1> The 0 is needed as it's an argument for the php script to run.
[02:13] <junkanoo> bekks, i guess... i must be confused... looking in /etc/shells I see a list of valid shells, but why/how did proftpd get /bin/false
[02:13] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: Ah ok. Did you manually install php to the system?
[02:14] <Jeroen1> No someone did it for me using nginx
[02:14] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: Type "file /etc/php5" and give us that output please.
[02:14] <Jeroen1> directory
[02:15] <Jeroen1> . /etc/php5: directory
[02:15] <rypervenche> Jeroen1: Then that would be why your command isn't working. You need the full path to the PHP binary. It sounds as though it may not be installed on your system if "which php" didn't give any output, or it's in a different location that is not a standard one.
[02:15] <junkanoo> I also have RequireValidShell set to no
[02:16] <feba> bubbasaures, yes, it lists HDD1 (64GB) and HDD2 (64GB) and you can't do anything to those
[02:16] <Jeroen1> rypervenche, php works fine on my server
[02:17] <Jeroen1> But there's no command to find where it is located?
[02:17] <Jeroen1> what should it return?
[02:17] <EriC^^> Jeroen1: locate php
[02:18] <nszceta> how do you guys control your VMs?
[02:18] <nszceta> does anybody use etcd?
[02:18] <bubbasaures> feba, Are you sure, you should be abpe to move them up or down in the list in the bios. By the way this is ajust a test to see if the sdb will just boot ubuntu, and we are having difficulty here.
[02:18] <bubbasaures> able*
[02:20] <bubbasaures> feba, Only other issue could be if sdb is a slave is all, is this the case?
[02:21] <kenny__> My wireless driver is r8712u, but It'd like to use r8168 instead, how do I change that?
[02:23] <feba> bubbasaures, I'm not able to move them on the list, it doesn't even list them as detailed as sdb; as for the second question, I don't understand what it means for sdb to be a slave, would you mind explaining?
[02:25] <bubbasaures> feba, We are off in the weeds is all, however lets try this download supergrub and put it on a disk or usb and it should boot ubuntu and we can fix this from the booted OS. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/  WE can get to what a slave is later...etc, at thois point I want to just see you fixed.
[02:26] <bubbasaures> feba, I assume you have a disc or usb to use.
[02:27] <feba> bubbasaures, I'll find one, will I need my bootable ubuntu usb?
[02:28] <bubbasaures> feba, Super grub is a tiny download that boots an app that finds the OS and boots it.
[02:29] <bubbasaures> feba, Having the live ubuntu as a back up is good though, there are fixes there as well.
[02:30] <bubbasaures> unless anyone wants to do a walk through chroot, hint hint
[02:30] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> IdleOne: It does.
[02:30] <feba> bubbasaures, okay, let me get super grub downloaded
[02:31] <bubbasaures> feba, Yeah it is tiny, use a regular usb loader or disk burner and boot that load, it will give you options to find and boot ubuntu.
[02:33] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is there an archive of the quantal repository?
[02:35] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade | j4s0nmchr1st0s here you find a trick to get that old repos working again
[02:36] <Ben64> OerHeks: j4s0nmchr1st0s: that is for upgrading, 12.10 is dead
[02:37] <OerHeks> sure it is dead, no heartbleed fix and so on
[02:37] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: Why was it killed?
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> time
[02:37] <OerHeks> j4s0nmchr1st0s, end of life, servers have to make room for current versions
[02:39] <Bashing-om> j4s0nmchr1st0s: 16.04 will be here before we know it, and ubuntu will be ready for all that new hardware and software .. move over little dog, big dog moving in.
[02:39] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Sounds like bs.
[02:39] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: that will be quite enough
[02:41] <explodingmango> Hello, I have a question about burning disks. I've seen talk about an "ISO-9600 read-ahead bug" and how you're supposed to add padsize=63s or whatever to disks you burn. Is that stuff still applicable today?
[02:42] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is it possible to revive a dead release?
[02:42] <explodingmango> oops, I mean "ISO-9660 filesystem read ahead bug"
[02:42] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: please stop asking about 12.10
[02:42] <OerHeks> j4s0nmchr1st0s, i answered that
[02:44] <Ben64> j4s0nmchr1st0s: if you want to run a single release for a long time, consider using the LTS or Long Term Support releases. One comes out every two years and is supported for 5 years
[02:49] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: Where is the torrent for 10.04 LTS (server)?
[02:51] <explodingmango> j4s0nmchr1st0s: Is this what you're looking for? http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ (haven't tried the torrent, but it's on that page)
[02:52] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> explodingmango: yes
[02:52] <explodingmango>  j4s0nmchr1st0s: Sweet, is it working?
[02:53] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> explodingmango: so far it is
[02:53] <Biohazard872014> anybody know anything about hydrairc or where i could find some help
[02:53] <Ben64> j4s0nmchr1st0s: why? 10.04 server loses support in like 5 months
[02:53] <Ben64> 14.04 is supported until 2019
[02:54] <Biohazard872014> i have been using 14.04 and it works great
[02:54] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: I can clone everything and keep it "alive"
[02:54] <explodingmango> Biohazard872014: Have you seen this page yet? http://www.hydrairc.com/content/community
[02:54] <Ben64> j4s0nmchr1st0s: that makes no sense
[02:54] <OerHeks> Biohazard872014, hydrairc  is windows only AFAIK
[02:54] <Ben64> if you're going to change versions, go to 14.04
[02:54] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Biohazard872014: I just don't like to relearn everything when the releases make unnecesarry changes.
[02:55] <Ben64> you'll have a much better time on 14.04
[02:55] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Ben64: Why is that?
[02:55] <Ben64> its newer, better, faster, stronger, and you won't have to worry about upgrading again until 2019 if thats what you like
[02:56] <Biohazard872014> OerHeks: i know i run ubuntu on my other computer as my server for web pages.
[02:57] <OerHeks> !wine | Biohazard872014, check the wine database
[02:58] <Biohazard872014> no im not trying to run windows programs just looking for help in getting scripts for hydra
[02:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Another thing...
[02:58] <Scroll_Tro0L> Anyone here experienced with maas/pxe? Nobody on #maas.
[02:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is the server installer comparable to an alternate cd where there is the text based installer?
[02:59] <Biohazard872014> but i posted it in the wrong window
[02:59] <Biohazard872014> sorry
[02:59] <explodingmango> New question... is it possible to get graphics HW acceleration working on a Thinkpad R51? Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device. (I'm just looking for a yes/no answer for now.)
[02:59] <bufferloss> hi folks
[03:00] <bufferloss> so, I just did a fresh install - that worked fine… first time logging in I got a dialog that said “would you like to install updates” or something similar, I said yes
[03:00] <bufferloss> it said “you need to reboot”, I rebooted, now I just get a blank/black screen after the bootloader
[03:01] <bufferloss> I get my normal bootloader where I can choose e.g. windows or ubuntu, I choose ubuntu, screen goes completely dark, lightens up a little, but still effectively black and then just hangs
[03:01] <bufferloss> what’s up with that?
[03:02] <explodingmango> bufferloss: I'm not the most knowledgeable, but... maybe a new kernel isn't working with your computer and you can boot with an old one.
[03:02] <explodingmango> bufferloss: Like so. http://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
[03:02] <bufferloss> 14.04 if that helps
[03:02] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: short answer, yes.
[03:02] <kul> hi
[03:02] <explodingmango> bufferloss: tldr hold shift while booting
[03:03] <bufferloss> explodingmango: ok I have options in grub for previous kernels, the original kernel appears to work
[03:03] <bufferloss> why would the new one break?
[03:03] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: minimal free software only option included?
[03:03] <bufferloss> why would ubuntu update a kernel that’s going to break my machine?
[03:03] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: are you done asking silly questions now?
[03:03] <explodingmango> bufferloss: Sorry that's the extent of my knowledge, if I say anything more I might just be talking out of my you-know-where
[03:03] <kul> im started a virtual box using tretflix (http://tretflix.com/).... how do i share folders so i can access it in plex
[03:04] <OerHeks> explodingmango, intel is supported in the kernel, but isn't good enough to run Unity3D AFAIK
[03:05] <phunyguy> OerHeks: what?  I run Unity3D and intel graphics
[03:05] <phunyguy> or did I miss something?
[03:05] <explodingmango> OerHeks: It's not Unity3D I'm worried about, even if I can't run that it'd be nice to get HW accel (i.e. doesn't complain to me about dri2/dri3 not supported when I run glxgears -info). Unless you just answered it and
[03:05] <explodingmango> *unless you just answered it without me picking up on it :P
[03:05] <OerHeks> phunyguy, i answered for intel 82852/855GM
[03:05] <phunyguy> oh.
[03:05] <phunyguy> yeah that's a tough call
[03:06] <explodingmango> I guess I can live with my current graphics then, I finally found something that can run the OpenGL stuff in processing, HW accel is just a bonus
[03:07] <explodingmango> hey bufferloss, still there?
[03:07] <bufferloss> yep
[03:08] <explodingmango> Um... I wonder if it's a graphics thing. I had something similar, although it was acting up right from the beginning, not right after updating.
[03:08] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: Why is it so silly?
[03:09] <decadence18> Can someone help me? I'm on 14.04 and I can't get a working MOTD
[03:09] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> It is what I am looking for.
[03:09] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: because you haven't asked a single "productive" question since you joined.  Do you have an actual real support question?
[03:09] <bufferloss> j4s0nmchr1st0s: what are you looking for?
[03:10] <explodingmango> bufferloss: 'Try adding "nomodeset" to the Grub command line.' Maybe from that menu you get by holding shift, you can edit the entry it uses to boot the latest kernel. Um...
[03:10] <astropirate> Hello friends.  I have my old harddrive with me. I want to take stuff out of it. My old home directory is encrypted. How can I decrypt it to copy files over? I have password that i used to log in
[03:11] <bufferloss> explodingmango: k
[03:11] <astropirate> actually, I will just boot out of that HDD and copy files here
[03:11] <astropirate> brb will try it
[03:12] <decadence18> Does anyone have any idea on how to make it work?
[03:13] <explodingmango> bufferloss: Aha, maybe I've found it. Boot up while holding shift, highlight the entry for the current kernel that doesn't work, then press the 'e' key
[03:13] <bubbasaures> decadence18, man motd might help
[03:13] <explodingmango> bufferloss: And then you should be able to edit the line. "add the nomodeset next to the "quiet splash" in the Grub kernel boot line."
[03:13] <Mendax> I just got banned from chat and I don't know why I got banned
[03:13] <bubbasaures> Mendax, Not here.
[03:14] <Mendax> 101
[03:14] <spacebug^> I'm getting "[nm-vpn-connection.c:1374] get_secrets_cb(): Failed to request VPN secrets #2" when trying to use my formerly working openvpn cnnection. I have tried reinstall network-manager network-manager network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome etc.. still nothing
[03:14] <Mendax> what does that mean>
[03:14] <Mendax> I don't remember doing anything that was that bad
[03:14] <OerHeks> Mendax, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[03:14] <explodingmango> Mendax: I think he means there is another place to discuss bans
[03:14] <bubbasaures> Mendax, There is a #ubuntu-ops channel
[03:14] <Mendax> what do u mean
[03:14] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> bufferloss: phunyguy I need something alternative to the 12.10 that is running I cannot quickly install some basic tools I want to use like nmap.
[03:14] <OerHeks> Mendax, ask in #freenode
[03:14] <decadence18> See I've looked at that but I'm missing both the /var/run/motd and the /etc/motd files. I've tried creating them manually but it still doesn't wok.
[03:14] <decadence18> *work
[03:15] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: so install a supported distro.
[03:15] <bufferloss> j4s0nmchr1st0s: so install something else
[03:15] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Or even mplayer to compile it I need development packages and the repository is down for 12.10.
[03:15] <OerHeks> decadence18,  sudo run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/
[03:15] <bufferloss> j4s0nmchr1st0s: yeah 12.10 is old, it’s also not an LTS release
[03:15] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, of course it's down = end of life.  install a supported distro.
[03:15] <Flannel> j4s0nmchr1st0s: You've already been given links to how to access the old archived repositories.  Folow them and you will be able to install software (and upgrade).
[03:17] <decadence18> DerHeks - Is something suppose to happen when I do that? Because I type it in the terminal and enter the command but nothing happens that I can see
[03:18] <OerHeks> decadence18, then you messed up some file, not preserving execute bit or something
[03:19] <decadence18> It's a clean install of 14.04, but there is nothing in /etc/update-motd.d, and no /var/run/motd or /etc/motd files
[03:20] <OerHeks> decadence18, there is,  even on my desktop install i get a message. > Welcome to Ubuntu 14.10 (GNU/Linux 3.16.0-24-generic x86_64) * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[03:21] <pinguy> hola
[03:22] <jardelvdas> Hello everybody, someone can tell me by q whenever I connect the charger to the battery% is at 90%?
[03:22] <pinguy> hi
[03:22] <decadence18> Is there any way of reinstalling the necessary motd files?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> pinguy, ask your support questions
[03:24] <decadence18> That came out wrong but I hope you know what I meant
[03:24] <daftykins> jardelvdas: i'm afraid that sentence doesn't make much sense
[03:25] <bubbasaures> decadence18, Try sudo apt-get install update-motd
[03:26] <decadence18> Um apparently I didn't have that package to begin with...
[03:26] <OerHeks> decadence18, this old ( for 11.04) howto should get you going http://www.howtogeek.com/104708/how-to-customize-ubuntus-message-of-the-day/
[03:28] <decadence18> I'll be back in a few. Rebooting and trying again.
[03:30] <mydopey> Ubuntu is dead?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> mydopey, your question makes no sense.  rephrase.
[03:33] <b0nn> hm, I just tried asking for help in #linux and #debian, but then I thought, oh I should try #ubuntu; so, I installed a package.. ffdiaporama, but the package was out of date so I got the latest package from the website (also via apt) but I get the following error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/ffdiaporama/devices.xml', which is also in package ffdiaporama-data 1.5-2build1
[03:34] <feba> bubbasaures, at the risk of sounding moronic, I'm not sure how to boot the super grub - would it be in a way similar to booting OS from usb, or do I do it from within windows?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> b0nn, what is the output of your terminal command:   cat /etc/issue
[03:34] <imastupidguest> Whena site suggests the I add their repo via add to /etc/apt/sources.list file  -  is there any way to do it using add-apt-repository?
[03:35] <imastupidguest> This site does not provide any instruction in that format
[03:35] <bubbasaures> feba, Not a stupid question, boot it like it was a live ubuntu, boot the media you used a usb or disk.
[03:35] <decadence18> Okay that didn't work. So far I haven't gotten make the MOTD work.
[03:35] <b0nn> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[03:36] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: what is the software ?
[03:36] <feba> bubbasaures, when I do it I get a black screen and "Remove disks or other media. Press any key to restart". When press the key Windows starts.
[03:37] <bubbasaures> feba, Are you able to boot the live ubuntu?
[03:38] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Tor
[03:39] <feba> bubbasaures, just double checked, yes, I can boot ubuntu from usb
[03:40] <Chuck_Norris> ok, so you did the steps that tor's webpage suggest?
[03:40] <bubbasaures> feba, Lets do that than and do this from the live using a terminal, boot it and come to the channel using it, so when can just copy and paste commands easily.
[03:40] <hal9000_> greetings
[03:40] <b0nn> solved: ffdiaporama-data hadn't been removed; dpkg -S <filename> told me the owner and someone had already asked if I had deleted that package, which I thought I had, but hadn't
[03:40] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: No. I wanted to see if the esier apt-add-repository method was possible from the information given.
[03:41] <imastupidguest> easier
[03:42] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: ok ok, i looking for some information...
[03:43] <feba> bubbasaures, okay, I'm in ubuntu
[03:43] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Cool, thanks. Fyi, In the mean time I'm gonna go ahead with the manual installation way described what I have. But any information would surely help me greatly in the future - in cases like this. thx
[03:45] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/tor-browser ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install tor-browser
[03:45] <bubbasaures> feba, Do you remember where you installed lilo to?
[03:46] <bubbasaures> feba, was it sda or sdb, which HD if you can.
[03:47] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: that will install tor-browser that is a firefox with tor preconfigured
[03:47] <feba> bubbasaures, I just did apt-get from ubuntu@ubuntu, so whatever the default is (home?)
[03:47] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: Cool. So, to make sure I grep this...  There is a way to do it but not using only the 'kind of' information I see when the manual installation steps are given? In other words, no way to derive the needed information from something likedeb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org trusty main
[03:47] <feba> bubbasaures, sdb
[03:47] <imastupidguest> ?
[03:47] <imastupidguest> typo
[03:47] <feba> bubbasaures, I never run liloconfig though
[03:48] <bubbasaures> feba, The reason I ask as we are not able to change the read order of the HD's we have two mbrs we can use, but you will loose the lilo, but grub should be working.
[03:48] <decadence18> So none of that worked. I can't get anything to work MOTD wise. Someone please help me. I don't get any MOTD whatsoever.
[03:48] <bubbasaures> feba, JUst making sure you understand the context.
[03:49] <imastupidguest> And, when I do a sudo apt-get update, what does ""Ign at the beginning of a line mean? Ignore?
[03:49] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: idk, just before adding PPAs check that those PPAs are supporting your ubuntu version
[03:50] <feba> bubbasaures, I've never come across lilo before this problem we're dealing with emerged, so frankly I can't tell whether loosing lilo affects me in any perceivable way
[03:50] <Chuck_Norris> Ing, means nothing, i think it's means that you already got that repositor actualized, its ok
[03:51] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: I see. Ok. thx man
[03:51] <Chuck_Norris> np
[03:51] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team  -.-
[03:52] <bubbasaures> feba, Cool, you can reload the lilo if needed, but look at this link for the chroot to ubuntu. ubuntu is in sdb5 so use that in the chroot, once chrooted in I will give you the commands needed.  http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[03:52] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: feba :: how bout 'fdisk' see what is installed where, and re-instll grub2 to the hard disk that has ubuntu ?
[03:54] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, Problem here is two HD's one windows sda, sdb is ubuntu, user cannot set either as first boot, and we do not know which is is as of now. This has been a long trip just here, you are welcome to finish. ;)
[03:55] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, here is their bootscript before lilo was added, may be in sda or sdb http://paste.ubuntu.com/8874290/
[03:55] <eb0t> windows creates a whole world of trouble becaus of the way it boots
[03:56] <eb0t> if you had 2 linux installs you could just install grub on both mbr and it would be that simple
[03:56] <eb0t> and it wouldnt even matter which booted first
[03:56] <bubbasaures> eb0t, thank you oh wise one.
[03:56] <eb0t> you sound a bit jealous
[03:56] <eb0t> is this your room bubbasaures
[03:56] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: OH, no, I would not deprive you of your joy .. just try'n to thin away around this situation. // feba; what menas " can not set the hard disk priority in bios" Never ever encountered that .
[03:56] <eb0t> are you the authority here
[03:57] <eb0t> i rest my case
[03:57] <keller> was
[03:57] <eb0t> get over yourself oh wisest of the wise
[03:57] <bubbasaures> eb0t, your not that's for sure.
[03:57] <cfhowlett> eb0t, such comments are not helpful.  stop.
[03:57] <eb0t> you dont know me and i dont pretend to know you
[03:57] <OerHeks> !ot | eb0t
[03:57] <eb0t> oh wisest of the wise
[03:58] <eb0t> hey ubottu can you repeat what you just said to me to bubbasaures
[03:58] <eb0t> as they started these pranks
[03:59] <eb0t> i was only shedding some light on windows and grub
[03:59] <feba> bubbasaures, okay, chrooted
[03:59] <eb0t> and bubbasaures was jealous
[04:01] <feba> Bashing-om, the list of hard disks is not interactive in any way in my bios
[04:02] <eb0t> just in case feba you possibly need to mount several partitions as you need a working filesystem.
[04:03] <eb0t> from there you can just do a grub install and reboot
[04:03] <swift110-phone> Hey
[04:03] <eb0t> if your windows boots first then change hard drives around and remount and chroot and run grub install again
[04:03] <eb0t> from there it will boot
[04:04] <bubbasaures> feba, Cool run grub-install /dev/sda than update-grub than grub-install /dev/sdb than update-grub than leave the chroot and reboot
[04:04] <eb0t> ha ha
[04:04] <eb0t> yes finally doing it my way
[04:04] <feba> eb0t, I don't seem to be able to change hard drives around
[04:05] <Bashing-om> feba: I run phoenix bios, and resetting the bios boot order is a two step process, and I must use the number pad's '+' and '-' keys to change the boot order. Perhaps yours is similar ?,
[04:05] <eb0t> you dont need to change them around
[04:05] <eb0t> you just need to change the sata leads
[04:05] <eb0t> only the sata cable
[04:05] <eb0t> put the one on disk a onto disk b and the one on disk b onto disk a
[04:06] <sacarlson> eb0t: I think you can also change boot order in bios
[04:06] <eb0t> yes you can
[04:06] <eb0t> but thats another story
[04:06] <eb0t> this he can do in split second
[04:06] <eb0t> sorry maybe not...my box is always open
[04:07] <feba> bubbasaures, it installed without errors, but with /dev/sda it gave a warning that "Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track." Anything to be concerned about?
[04:09] <eb0t> flex net.....licensing probably
[04:09] <feba> Bashing-om, the list just doesn't appear to be ineractive in any way, I get to choose priority for internal/external/network boot, but it doesn't look like there are any options for HDDs themselves
[04:11] <Bashing-om> feba: I do not know, but that just does not make sense that provision is not made in bios to change the hard drive boot order. I have never ever seen where it was not. But, admittedly, there are lots of things I have never seen.
[04:12] <bubbasaures> feba, Ah flexnet, hold on I thought that was fixed, it has to do with windows stuff. The second post here is a bit more info, although dated but still good. You may be okay as just a warning I would test it with a reboot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254
[04:12] <imastupidguest> does anyone know where .desktop files are stored on ubuntu 14.04?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> imastupidguest, /home
[04:13] <imastupidguest> I thought it was /usr/share/applications  but that doesn't look right now that I peek in there
[04:14] <feba> bubbasaures, okay rebooting now, I'll take a look at flexnet in a minute
[04:14] <imastupidguest> crhowl no. That's not where I put eclipse the other day. I'm sure it's in /usr/*   somewhere
[04:14] <imastupidguest> now I'm working on another application to place a .desktop file for and can't remember where it goes
[04:15] <SchrodingersScat> sudo updatedb ; locate eclipse.desktop
[04:17] <eb0t> you can try find command imastupidguest
[04:17] <eb0t> find / -name "*.desktop"
[04:18] <imastupidguest> Id is /usr/share/applications   you just can't click on it via nautilus and expect it to open in the text editor. (It actually launches the application)
[04:18] <eb0t> the updatedb and locate is probably better
[04:18] <eb0t> use find or locate in command line
[04:18] <imastupidguest> SCHAAP137:  Thank you for reminding me
[04:19] <feba_> bubbasaures, nope, we made a full circle, back to no windows and no ubuntu, just an "error: no such device: <complex-string-of-numbers-and-letters>. Entering rescue mode... grub rescue>". This the original error I got.
[04:20] <eb0t> feba_: looks like your disks are the right way round now
[04:21] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> OerHeks: very well
[04:21] <bubbasaures> feba_, I'm surprised the bootrepair showed flexnet as just a warning, you may need to wipe the mbr with the commands in the first post of that last link than do a chroot in with the grub-install commands
[04:21] <bubbasaures> again is all
[04:21] <imastupidguest> Can anyone name some actual categories suitable for a web browser that one would use in the Catagories=   line of a .desktop file?
[04:22] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: gksu nautilus /usr/share/application-registry/
[04:22] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: thx so much man
[04:22] <bubbasaures> feba_, Let me know that makes sense, you seem to be moving along fine.
[04:22] <Chuck_Norris> np broda
[04:24] <metaldog> is this thing on?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> metaldog, ask your support question
[04:25] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/apps
[04:25] <Chuck_Norris> sudo apt-get update
[04:25] <Chuck_Norris> sudo apt-get install open-as-administrator
[04:25] <metaldog> hello, cfhowlett. right. first off, how do i direct my comments at the right person? as i was getting right confused earlier
[04:26] <SchrodingersScat> !tab | metaldog
[04:26] <imastupidguest> Chuck_Norris: err,I think there's something I'm not understanding about that. When I examine my eclipse.desktop file (for reference purposes) I see a line that says  Categories=Development;IDE;f    which seem like existing categories that something in Unity (the dash maybe?) uses to help locate programs quickly
[04:26] <imastupidguest> no??
[04:26] <feba_> bubbasaures, I'm reading the post now, can I just blindly type those two commands or is there anything else involved also? (those are definitely beyond my linux knowledge, when they say 'backup' is that part of that command line?)
[04:26] <cfhowlett> Metacity, as you just did and as I demonstrated: start with their name in your message ...
[04:26] <imastupidguest> it's just a guess.
[04:27] <metaldog> Schrod
[04:28] <bubbasaures> feba_, You would not want to blindly type those, the mbr is where the partition table is and this is a specific command, very critical to get it right. Do you have windows backed up for any contingency?
[04:28] <Chuck_Norris> imastupidguest: sry but, idk how Unity works, i don't use it since a lot of time -.-
[04:29] <feba_> bubbasaures, not quite, most of my personal files are secure, but none of the software
[04:30] <kevin> hey guys. so i have a two-monitor setup but my main monitor is being recognized as my secondary (and vice versa).. i always have to run xrandr to switch it manually. is there a way to correct this?
[04:30] <metaldog> nope. aint working for me. anywho, i have a problem with making a bootable os. i have tried many usb drives. tried many ways of formatting. tried a few different ways of making said bootable usb but when i try to boot from usb all i get is "failed to load COM32 menu,32" can anyone help me please? i need to change os as this runs like a brick thru treacle on my old pc.
[04:30] <daftykins> i take it they're different cable types so you can't just swap them?
[04:30] <desmond> I need help with my wifi. I can connect to my router and access the internet, but after a few minutes I can no longer access webpages or ping. What should I do?
[04:30] <kevin> daftykins: correct
[04:30] <daftykins> mmm no idea then
[04:31] <bubbasaures> feba_, I have not seen this issue in a long time so have not messed with it in about that time. Might be worth making a thread at the ubuntu forums with flexnet in the header and that second post on that links author is a mod there now and active daily in this area.
[04:31] <metaldog> desmond have you tried resetting your router?
[04:31] <abdo> hi
[04:31] <desmond> metaldog: my other devices can connect to the router just fine. it's just my laptop with ubuntu on it
[04:31] <metaldog> nope, that tab thing just dont work for me
[04:32] <eb0t> reboot your laptop
[04:32] <desmond> rebooting fixes the problem, but it happens again after a few minutes
[04:32] <bubbasaures> feba_, That flexnet issue does seem to be the crux at this point, if you could boot from the sdb HD you would be set.
[04:32] <eb0t> hmm so its possibly due to heat
[04:32] <metaldog> sorry, desmond, i have no clue. was just thinking aloud. sorry
[04:32] <abdo> hiiii
[04:32] <desmond> probably due to heat.... are you serious?
[04:32] <eb0t> as it warms up the wifi starts to lose connection maybe you need a new wifi card
[04:33] <abdo> how are you ??
[04:33] <metaldog> still need some rational input..........
[04:33] <eb0t> can you swap that card with one in anohter macine and see if the other machine plays up
[04:33] <eb0t> im deadly serious
[04:33] <desmond> the wireless card works fine on arch linux using netctl
[04:33] <eb0t> ah ok..then that rules that out
[04:33] <strong> [HELP] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, HOW can I hidden the grub menu and enter the ubuntu directly?
[04:34] <abdo> buuuf good night didnt you tell me bye
[04:34] <bubbasaures> strong, More than one OS?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> strong, edit your grub configuration to WAIT TIME = 0
[04:34] <kevin> think i found something... gonna restart x & gnome session and see what happens
[04:35] <imastupidguest> What is an existing category that can be used in a .desktop file for a web browser? Does it matter? Does it have to be something 'existing'? opera.desktop doesn't contain a Categories=            line, and it's the only web browser I have to compare/refernce the file
[04:35] <metaldog> zzzzz
[04:35] <eb0t> when it stops connecting to the internet ....desmond...have you done an ifconfig to see if it thinks its still connected
[04:35] <eb0t> and that it still has the ip address
[04:36] <eb0t> so the card is fine...the router is fine....so its ubuntu
[04:36] <kevin> success
[04:36] <metaldog> so. how is this a help room? i been in and out of here loads trying to get help. but nothing...is it coz i is ginja?
[04:37] <kevin> metaldog: well if nobody knows the answer to your question, nobody will be able to help... heh
[04:37] <cfhowlett> metaldog, you did NOT ask for help in this channel in the last 30 minutes.  no mind readers on duty.  state your issues or expect no support.
Yes, and Win7 is in another HDD
, I edit the etc/default/grub, but it didn't work
[04:38] <cfhowlett> strong, wait 1 I'll see if I can find exact tutorial
[04:38] <abdo> hii
[04:38] <bubbasaures> strong, you can change the wait time in gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub as suggested run a update-grub after changing.
[04:39] <metaldog> sorry, thought the mind readers might still be awake. my problem is up a bit. plz dont make me retype. i been doing that every time i bin in tonight. just want to get my old piece of poop working
[04:39] <bubbasaures> "\<strong> <cfhowlett>, I edit the etc/default/grub, but it didn't work" Did you run a update-grub?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> metaldog, state the issue.  yes you must retype or paste it up and give the link.
[04:39] <eb0t> sound like a northerner metaldog
[04:39] <kevin> haha
[04:39] <cfhowlett> strong, update grub ...
[04:40] <cfhowlett> !paste | metaldog
 YES, I have already did it.
[04:40] <desmond> eb0t: what shold I be looking for on iwconfig again?
[04:40] <eb0t> an ip address
[04:40] <desmond> sorry, i can't scroll up on this chromebook. the page-up key is missing
[04:40] <eb0t> erm
[04:40] <strong> Also, I create a "03_hiddenmenu" file in etc/grub.d, and didn't work too..
[04:40] <eb0t> can you do iwconfig | less
[04:41] <strong> TIME = 1 works, but TIME=0 don't work
[04:41] <desmond> there's no ip address
[04:41] <desmond> i'm not connected to my network anymore. now I can't connect
[04:41] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> This is a very active channel.
[04:41] <eb0t> so it is actaully dropping the address
[04:41] <desmond> I can connect after system boot, but after i lose connection, if I manually disconnect and try to reconnect, it will not connect
[04:42] <eb0t> how are you trying to reconnect
[04:42] <eb0t> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:42] <desmond> If I select my ssid on the applet, it tries to connect before saying "disconnected"
[04:42] <eb0t> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:42] <eb0t> maybe sudo if you dont operate from root
[04:42] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> desmond: Is this an internal wifi hardware used to make the connection?
[04:43] <feba_> bubbasaures, okay I'll do that, what would be the relevant information at this point?
[04:43] <eb0t> yes but appartenlty his internal wifi works with archlinux
[04:43] <desmond> I did. I didnt get any messages when I did that
[04:43] <eb0t> right do iwconfig | less
[04:43] <eb0t> see if its got an ip now
[04:43] <metaldog> hahaha....close...nottingham. anywho. i installed ubuntu on my old lame pc this morning....(im sure you all just making me retype this for kicks).....and it is right slow and clunky. so i thought i will download next os and try that. so i did and made a usb bootable thing and when i tried to load it all i got was "failed to load COM32 file menu.32". i have tried several usb drives, several os's and various ways of formatting etc but nothi
[04:43] <metaldog> ng works and no os on any usb will load. plz dont make me type it again, takes ages
[04:44] <desmond> no ip address, but it does list an ESSID
[04:44] <eb0t> metaldog you should go ferreting for a bit..and give you mind a break
[04:44] <desmond> It shows an ESSID while it is "connecting" to my router. When it fails, i get a desktop manager "Disconnected from network" and it's back to no ip / essid.
[04:44] <eb0t> right but your wifi password and stuff must be set up correctly for it to connect in the first place
[04:45] <eb0t> ok im not sure but can you look in dmesg
[04:45] <eb0t> does dmesg work on ubuntu
[04:45] <metaldog> ebot. i ferreted ur mum...was like throwing a sausage down a street.....next
[04:45] <eb0t> see if there is any log message as
[04:45] <eb0t> ha ha metaldog
[04:45] <metaldog> :)
[04:46] <bubbasaures> feba_ A new bootinfo summary is your best tool there, look for that user I mentioned help. Any thread has a thread just include the flexnet info there.
[04:46] <eb0t> geet boots on and geet rabbitin
[04:46] <bubbasaures> thread header sorry feba_
[04:46] <metaldog> still....help? plz?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> metaldog, no remarks about mothers.  NONE!  stop now.
[04:47] <desmond> okay eb0t, i'm going to try to connect again
[04:47] <desmond> dmesg says it's authenticated and "associated"
[04:47] <Imk0tter> assassociatio
[04:47] <eb0t> ok cool so its doing as it should
[04:47] <Imk0tter> whoops
[04:47] <Imk0tter> association*
[04:47] <desmond> and now the desktop notification says it is disconnected
[04:48] <metaldog> i stopped about 2 lines ago....keep up...anywho, im frustrated at the unbelievable amount of help i have had from this HELP ROOM on all my visits tonight.....
[04:48] <desmond> dmesg just says "deauthenticating from [mac address] by local choice (reason=3)
[04:48] <eb0t> ok one minute let me look up reason 3
[04:50] <metaldog> dear santa, for xmas this year can i please have some fur coats for all the poor homeless children and SOME HELP FROM A SO CALLED CHAT ROOM? thanks santa. amen
[04:50] <eb0t> ah it seems you may be using several different methods to connect via wifi
[04:50] <eb0t> wpa supplicant and others
[04:50] <eb0t> you must only use one
[04:51] <eb0t> otherwise this issue is gonna continue
[04:51] <eb0t> give us some o'dem rabbits metaldog
[04:51] <desmond> hm, what should i do?
[04:51] <Imk0tter> my cock is continuous
[04:51] <desmond> my laptop model is a sager np7338, by the way
[04:51] <eb0t> you have to investigate how your wireless netowrking starts
[04:51] <eb0t> here look here
[04:51] <metaldog> ur mums got a rabbit, lol
[04:51] <desmond> I didn't upgrade the wireless card, just used the stock one
[04:51] <Imk0tter> desmond: take it to a shop you lazy bum
[04:51] <eb0t> ah ok and you didnt manually install wpa supplicant
[04:52] <eb0t> then it may not be the issue
[04:52] <cfhowlett> !ops | Imk0tter trolling
[04:52] <eb0t> look here for some ideas
[04:52] <metaldog> you know what? sod it, im going to use the hammer of justice. in a bit
[04:52] <eb0t> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-935388-start-0.html
[04:52] <phunyguy> Imk0tter: do you mind?
[04:52] <eb0t> these guys normally speak sense the gentoo guys
[04:52] <Imk0tter> fuck off funnyman
[04:52] <KKEm> hey i got a startup problem after installing ubuntu 14.04 + 14.04.1
[04:53] <KKEm> screen looks the same as pluggin out the ram while machine is running
[04:53] <eb0t> it could also be interference ont hat channel you are using
[04:53] <bubbasaures> KKEm, This a screen you see when booting?
[04:53] <eb0t> so change channel
[04:54] <eb0t> in fact i would try that first desmond
[04:54] <eb0t> that actually makes more sense
[04:54] <KKEm> cant change channel, it tottaly freezee
[04:54] <desmond> eb0t: i have a suspicion that if i upgrade the kernel it would fix the problem
[04:54] <metaldog> sorry. im back. just to say sorry for being such an impatient arse at such an hour. didn't realise the time. sorry ppl
[04:54] <eb0t> yes possibly ...but its simpler to try and change channel
[04:54] <KKEm> bubbasaures a screen?
[04:54] <desmond> because my arch version used a more recent kernel, and i remember the guys on my forum saying i need at least linux 3.15
[04:54] <eb0t> you can possibly do that on your router
[04:54] <desmond> right now i'm using 3.13
[04:55] <desmond> well, the laptop i'm on right now is using the same wireless router
[04:55] <eb0t> no the channel for the wifi is normall yo channel 1 6 or 11
[04:55] <eb0t> these are non overlapping channels
[04:55] <eb0t> if you choos anything but these you are likely to get large amounts of interference from many other channels that overlap
[04:55] <eb0t> so you have to choose channel 1 6 or 11
[04:56] <bubbasaures> KKEm, So far you make no sense, I was trying to see if when you boot you get a odd screen situation like a grphic issue.
[04:56] <eb0t> currently your neighbors may be using the same channel as you
[04:56] <eb0t> and they are possibly have stronger signal strength thatn you
[04:56] <eb0t> and they are blasting your device and causign it to disconnect
[04:56] <eb0t> that would make sens
[04:56] <KKEm> bubbasaures, yes i see boot screen
[04:56] <eb0t> so change from channel 1 to channel 6 or 11
[04:57] <eb0t> an hopefully it will be problem solved
[04:57] <bubbasaures> KKEm, Can you just clearly explain your issue, that is the point.
[04:57] <KKEm> bubbasaures when i login the problem occur
[04:57] <KKEm> can i pm you
[04:57] <KKEm> i get confussed by all this text?
[04:57] <bubbasaures> KKEm, No, my help is nothing more than to get you to give understandable details.
[04:57] <KKEm> ok
[04:58] <bubbasaures> to the channel
[04:59] <eb0t> hey windows boot man..wherever you are
[04:59] <eb0t> have youstill not sorted that bit of a job out yet
[04:59] <KKEm> bubbasaures, i boot + type by first password, then i wait, and when i type my LOGIN password then 10 sec after the system freeze and the screen get this weird pattern
[04:59] <KKEm> at this point i cant do anything
[04:59] <KKEm> i have no grappich card in the puter god dammit
[04:59] <eb0t> is it a nice pattern kkem
[04:59] <bubbasaures> KKEm, Cool, not an area I'm real steeped in is all.
[04:59] <KKEm> yes very beautyful
[05:00] <eb0t> wow
[05:00] <eb0t> were er dem rabbits
[05:00] <KKEm> white rappits<3
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:00] <eb0t> cool
[05:00] <INL> hey so im new to ubuntu anyone have a good guide for the terminal commands?
[05:00] <KKEm> goodmorning
[05:00] <eb0t> theres a miner from nottingham in here ...trying to use linux and he got some rabbits for sale
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !bash | KKEm
[05:01] <KKEm> ikr
[05:01] <KKEm> but i cant access it
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !manual | INL,
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> Hello, the updated kernel has broken usage of my Stentura
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> In ubuntu 14.04
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !server | INL the server guide would be best for you?
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> it works fine if I use the previous kernel
[05:01] <ArchZombie039423> Please fix this
[05:01] <bubbasaures> ArchZombie039423, Use the kernel that works
[05:01] <KKEm> i guess i have to wait
[05:02] <ArchZombie039423> Yes but this means a bug was introduced in the kernel
[05:02] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, not necessarily
[05:02] <ArchZombie039423> Because the previous kernel, and I am using it now, is working...
[05:02] <INL> also i just broke my last install of ubunto because i ran something like "sudo chmod 666 /*" what does that do
[05:03] <sacarlson> !bug
[05:03] <cfhowlett> INL, less irc.  more reading: man chmod          in your terminal
[05:03] <bubbasaures> ArchZombie039423, This is not a please fix this place, we are individual users not representing canonical, nor can you just declare a bug without some research.
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: what kind of error you getting on 14.04?
[05:05] <ArchZombie039423> Well I think, "latest kernel works, new kernel doesn't", is fairly precise. I don't really know how to write a bug report and what not.
[05:06] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, that's like telling your doctor: Hey!  I'm sick!   and expecting an accurate diagnosis ...
[05:07] <ArchZombie039423> Well my software does not connect to my steno machine when I use the new kernel.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: did you try start from terminal to see what errors you have?
[05:07] <ArchZombie039423> It just gives me a "disconnected" error. But it worked before.
[05:08] <ArchZombie039423> And yes but the software did not print any messages.
[05:09] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, in looking at the stentura site, no mention is made of linux support.  seems that there's a "plover" project which provides some steno support.  without more information, hard to pinpoint your issue.
[05:09] <ArchZombie039423> I just know I tried rebooting several times, and restarting and if still did not work, but then I tried the old we are nel and it did.
[05:09] <ArchZombie039423> And yes I am use Plover.
[05:10] <ArchZombie039423> Using
[05:10] <ArchZombie039423> kernel, god I am not very good at this
[05:11] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, could be a bug, could be something with plover, could be the kernel .... perhaps best to ask plover support first?  OR continue using the older version which you reported ... works fine!
[05:11] <desmond> eb0t: I rebooted and did some more debugging. it looks like i'm losing the IP address shortly after connecting for the first time
[05:12] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: what interface does this steno device use?
[05:12] <ArchZombie039423> Well, I mean, Plover is not really being developed much anymore, and it uses a serial port.
[05:13] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: my guess is that the new kernel just changed the serial port used.  you may need to change device used to connect to it
[05:14] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: or maybe the baud rate changed
[05:14] <ArchZombie039423> The port changed all the time before, I was used to that, and there were bawd rate options in the software.
[05:14] <ArchZombie039423> @baud
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: you also need python for this yes?
[05:17] <ArchZombie039423> Yes, it is required.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: wich version do you have?
[05:18] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: I note that there is no plover package in ubuntu http://stenoknight.com/wiki/Installation_on_Ubuntu_Linux  and for support they refer to http://stenoknight.com/plover/aviary/phpBB3/
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !info python trusty
[05:18] <ArchZombie039423> I built it from git, but it did not change.
[05:19] <eb0t> yes desmond do you have access to the router
[05:19] <eb0t> im not sure what type of router it is
[05:19] <eb0t> but normally if its one of those thing you get from a typicall isp then you should have a webpage you can log into
[05:20] <ArchZombie039423> And true but I think it is an Ubuntu bug.
[05:20] <cfhowlett> ArchZombie039423, is there some disadvantage to using the previous kernel which DID work?
[05:20] <ArchZombie039423> Well, I suppose general security or whatnot.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: as bubbasaures said, we need to investigate whats wrong exactly
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> I am not having any issues, but I think it is a bug that should be fixed.
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> It just randomly stopped working, then it wouldn't work after I restarted plover
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> and restarting the machine didn't work either.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: checked your syslog or dmesg for errors?
[05:21] <ArchZombie039423> How would I do that?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: dmesg in terminal
[05:22] <ArchZombie039423> Okay, I will check.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: or browse /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[05:22] <ArchZombie039423> do I need to run this when the device is not working?
[05:23] <ArchZombie039423> or will it still have logs from before
[05:23] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: i have to assume that the new kernel didn't break all the serial ports or we would have other bug report noteing it.  so I would focus on the plover software and how it controls baud rate, devices, parity, bit count....
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: any error would log anyway
[05:23] <KKEm> this is my problem: http://imgur.com/IrOrN9O
[05:23] <eb0t> a partity bit is an extra bit transmitted along with a data word
[05:24] <ArchZombie039423> Is there a command to check for errors in the dmesg?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: when do you get this?
[05:24] <eb0t> dmesg | grep error
[05:24] <KKEm> after log in after boot
[05:24] <ArchZombie039423> Instead of everything.
[05:24] <ArchZombie039423> Okay.
[05:24] <KKEm> no wait
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: ubuntu version?
[05:24] <eb0t> may be case sensitive
[05:24] <KKEm> 14.04 and 14.04.1 i get this screen after login
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: anything related to your plover is usefull
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did you recently update?
[05:26] <ArchZombie039423> Only interesting messages were: [    0.215393] acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_ERROR); disabling ASPM
[05:26] <ArchZombie039423> [   59.324129] usb 3-1: ch341-uart converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[05:26] <ArchZombie039423> Am I using the wrong dmesg command to read all the logs?
[05:26] <KKEm> i just installed it and this happend. also did this happen on 14.04.1
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: /var/log/dmesg for all
[05:27] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje i just installed it and this happend. also did this happen on 14.04.1
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: what kind of grafix card you having?
[05:27] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje actually i have no grappich card in it right now
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: using the onboard grafix card then?
[05:28] <KKEm> i guess
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:28] <KKEm> cause there aint one it it
[05:28] <KKEm> so i am using the motherboard yes
[05:28] <ArchZombie039423> Nothing in there different ...
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: try hold shift at boot for recoverymode maybe failsafeX or fix broken packages from there
[05:29] <KKEm> ok
[05:30] <KKEm> will you guide me ?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: i just did :p
[05:30] <ArchZombie039423> Maybe it is not logging everything for some reason.
[05:30] <KKEm> please this is hopeless there is no one ells on google having the same prob
[05:31] <ArchZombie039423> Or Dell eating the logs on reboot.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: if there's something wrong its logged
[05:31] <ArchZombie039423> ^deleting
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: starting your software from terminal can be usefull too
[05:31] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje im in boot now, Recovery mode?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: yes, ubuntu(recoverymode)
[05:32] <KKEm> ok
[05:32] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: by any chance do you use a usb adapter to interface to this serial device?
[05:33] <ArchZombie039423> Well I do not even see more than one entry for /dev/ttyUSB* and yes.
[05:33] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje im in
[05:33] <sacarlson> ArchZombie039423: then there is a know isue with usb serial adapter on 14.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2208751
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: you can try a realtime test with tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with usb/plover
[05:33] <KKEm> repair broken packages?
[05:33] <KKEm> or or or
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: try failsafeX first
[05:33] <KKEm> failsafeX?
[05:34] <KKEm> good
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: and choose low graphics mode
[05:35] <ArchZombie039423> Hum, okay, then that explains it.
[05:35] <KKEm> waiting for mounting
[05:35] <KKEm> mountall: fsck /boot [699] terminated with status 1
[05:35] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje ^
[05:36] <KKEm> reboot?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: if you cant reach to desktop, try again recoverymode, fix broken packages maybe
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did any ubuntu version work on your mobo grafix?
[05:37] <ArchZombie039423> Well I will just keep using this kernel for now, and I hope they fix it. If it is a known bug I guess they will get around to it some day.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: there are bug reporting packages in software centre
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: to make your bug report more easy
[05:38] <ArchZombie039423> Okay, I will look into that, thank you for the help.
[05:38] <greengy> helllo?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: if its a known bug, someone will link to duplicate bug anyway
[05:38] <Chuck_Norris> ArchZombie039423: just curious, what's your graphic card?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> greengy: yes?
[05:39] <greengy> hi, Iḿ trying to install ubuntu into my laptop dell xps and it doese recognize partitions
[05:40] <ArchZombie039423> I will try to get a useful log and post it where someone can read it. And on my laptop I am using Intel Ivy.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> greengy: you want ubuntu on full hd or dualboot?
[05:40] <greengy> dualboot for now
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> greengy: is this an uefi machine?
[05:40] <khaaan1> Geforce 610M 2GB, can anyone help me with prime etc ?
[05:40] <greengy> nope
[05:40] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje i rebooted and is now again stuck in failsafeX trying to reebot and run the recovery as you said
[05:40] <ArchZombie039423> With just the deaf fault drivers.
[05:41] <greengy> xps 15z is the model
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | khaaan1
[05:41] <ArchZombie039423> ^default
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: try the 'fix broken packages' from grub recoverymode
[05:41] <bubbasaures> greengy, Are you on the ubuntu live boot?
[05:42] <greengy> not right now do you need me to connect?
[05:42] <khaaan1> i want to know if I can disable nvidia and activate intel (i have a hybrid graphic card)
[05:42] <greengy> what can i do to solve?
[05:42] <bubbasaures> greengy, you will have to be on it to get help most likely, come to the channel from it.
[05:43] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje is it normal that this takes a lot of time+
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: yes, this can take a lot of time
[05:43] <greengy> ok i will
[05:43] <KKEm> omg
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: if this option did not work, your card might be too light for ubuntu
[05:43] <KKEm> maybe i should not have reebooted
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did any ubuntu version work on your mobo card?
[05:44] <KKEm> i have had ubuntu on it before
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: on same vga from motherboard?
[05:44] <KKEm> yep
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: did it run smooth on grafix?
[05:45] <KKEm> yep
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: ok
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | greengy
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: you can tryout xubuntu or lubuntu just to test if you can bypass login
[05:46] <ArchZombie039423> Also, and this is more of a curiosity, why does Ubuntu work so poorly when the universe repository is removed?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: what do you mean poorly?
[05:46] <KKEm> yeah maybe i should
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: just to test if it runs smoother
[05:47] <ArchZombie039423>  Well the graphics for a lot of Apps get messed up, and things like this.
[05:47] <KKEm>  lotuspsychje i run Netrunner-os on another machine where i had same problem with after install
[05:47] <ArchZombie039423> And GDebi is half in that repo.
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: there's a solution for everything in ubuntu, running flawless on my side :p
[05:48] <ArchZombie039423>  Well, I mean if you turn universe off it breaks things.
[05:49] <ArchZombie039423> At least it did for me.
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ArchZombie039423: did you check your additional drivers section?
[05:50] <feba> Thanks for all the help bubbasaures!
[05:50] <ArchZombie039423> Well it was pics map or something, which is pre-installed, and seems to be needed by all GTK2 apps.
[05:51] <ArchZombie039423> But it was universe.
[05:51] <bubbasaures> feba, No problem, that is a bit of a unusual issue, we had to dig for it.
[05:51] <ArchZombie039423> *in universe.
[05:52] <feba> bubbasaures, I wonder, do you know why this came up out of the blue?
[05:52] <ArchZombie039423> I think this is not a bug, I am just curious why it works this way.
[05:53] <bubbasaures> feba, In that link I think the second post covers the window app that loads this to the mbr, I wonder myself how it got there, you had a running setup, kinda a mystery from this end.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: fixbrokenpackages still running?
[05:59] <KKEm> went to black screen
[05:59] <KKEm> trying kubuntu soon
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: press a key
[05:59] <KKEm> oh
[05:59] <KKEm> still at one line
[05:59] <KKEm> still at the same line
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: but is it moving?
[06:00] <KKEm> the _ is blinkin
[06:00] <KKEm> no movement othervise
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: time to try xubuntu/lubuntu
[06:01] <KKEm> kubuntu wont work ?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: by the way, did you install ubuntu with internet connection?
[06:01] <KKEm> no
[06:01] <KKEm> i wont let anyone see by Phase :D
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: its reccomended to cable on and updates during install
[06:01] <KKEm> trying that then
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: maybe try again ubuntu 14.04 with cable on/updates in setup
[06:02] <KKEm> ok m8
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: i should have asked in the first place :p
[06:02] <KKEm> properly xD
[06:02] <bubbasaures> shoot found the flexnet fix in the bootrepair app
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: if thats doesnt work, try kubuntu
[06:03] <KKEm> ook
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: its important to get the best drivers
[06:09] <KKEm> lotuspsychje can i install OpenVPN on ubuntu usb stic?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: you can use aptoncd to back up, not sure on usb
[06:10] <KKEm> so ptpp ok
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | KKEm
[06:11] <ZeGotinha> ping www.pmf.sc.gov.br
[06:11] <KKEm> is it importen to use a encrypted connection or will ubuntu download mgr take care of encryption?
[06:11] <ZeGotinha> ping -t www.pmf.sc.gov.br
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: whats your endgoal?
[06:13] <KKEm> well i cant really tell you that, can i?
[06:13] <KKEm> :P
[06:13] <curiousx> curl --write-out %{http_code} --silent --output /dev/null www.pmf.sc.gov.br   -.-
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | KKEm
[06:14] <KKEm> wow thank you, does it contain GPG keys??
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: it all depends whats important to you
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: apt-get download openvpn
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: that downloads the .deb
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: then drag n drop to usb
[06:16] <KKEm> ik  but thanks :)
[06:16] <KKEm> oh
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: i will be using that too, tnx for the question :p
[06:17] <KKEm> kewl m8 :D
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> even better then aptoncd
[06:18] <KKEm> well how do you intall it while you are installing ubuntu ?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: afterwards, click your .deb file to install
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: of course the fastest way is still installing manualy with apt-get install package
[06:19] <KKEm> i meen i need the connection to be with openvpn while i download the packeds on ubuntu install
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: you dont need openvpn to install ubuntu, your doing nothing wrong
[06:20] <KKEm> i know
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: ubuntu is opensource right
[06:20] <KKEm> but i want a secure connection for the packed download
[06:20] <Surendil> KKEm: dpkg -i file.deb for installing
[06:21] <Surendil> KKEm: if .deb is missing dependencies, apt-get install -f
[06:21] <KKEm> im tired of my isp watching me all the 4kin time :D
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: not sure if thats possible to tunnel ubuntu setup tru vpn
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !vpn
[06:22] <phunyguy> oh boy...
[06:22] <KKEm> its possible to set up a new connection with ptpp
[06:23] <KKEm> but thats easy to break its only 128 bit keys
[06:23] <phunyguy> you need a VPN connection with OpenVPN that has the default route set as the tunnel.  Nothing more complicated than that.
[06:23] <phunyguy> might be a better question for #openvpn
[06:23] <KKEm> no no no.. omg
[06:24] <KKEm> we was just talking about secure conneciton for ubuntu installtion downloads of packeds
[06:24] <phunyguy> my statement still stands.
[06:25] <KKEm> ok your statement still stands.
[06:25] <KKEm> wtf dude xD
[06:26]  * phunyguy scrolls up
[06:26] <KKEm> OMG IT WORKED
[06:26] <KKEm> i think
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> KKEm: keep it polite mate
[06:27] <KKEm> lotuspsychje ofcause,  but it looks like the grapichs has changed
[06:27] <KKEm> let me see, first time logging in after install
[06:27]  * phunyguy is confused.... what are you trying to accomplish with OpenVPN, KKEm?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy: he has vpn connection, but wanted a secure ubuntu install
[06:28] <phunyguy> and I get the "wtf"?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> not sure if thats even possible
[06:28]  * phunyguy grumbles.
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:28] <praveen> I'm in....... :)
[06:28] <KKEm> lol
[06:28] <KKEm> but it is
[06:28] <praveen> I'm now leaving :(
[06:28] <KKEm> PPTP connection is possible
[06:28] <phunyguy> KKEm: what aspect of Ubuntu are you trying to secure
[06:29] <praveen> hi himanshu
[06:29] <Guest76949> hi
[06:29] <KKEm> phunyguy :) the download part
[06:29]  * praveen
[06:29] <phunyguy> praveen: can we help you with something?
[06:29] <phunyguy> KKEm: as in, the installation of packages?
[06:29] <KKEm> lotuspsychje no, same problem as before.. next step trying kubuntu
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy: he wants the packages from ubuntu setup transfered over vpn, so his isp cant see
[06:30] <KKEm> phunyguy yes :)
[06:30] <phunyguy> KKEm: to you have a VPN provider?
[06:30] <KKEm> yep ofcause
[06:30] <phunyguy> KKEm: good, then like I said, ask the #openvpn channel how to redirect your default gateway through the openvpn tunnel.
[06:31] <phunyguy> it is beyond the scope of this channel.
[06:31]  * praveen is feeling sleey
[06:31] <KKEm> not the problem
[06:31] <phunyguy> KKEm: now you are just wasting time.
[06:31] <KKEm> yeah i know right
[06:31] <KKEm> no omg
[06:31] <KKEm> nvm then
[06:31] <phunyguy> it is 100% the fix.
[06:31] <phunyguy> I promise.
[06:32] <KKEm> problem is how i could install openvpn in ubuntu installation mode
[06:32] <phunyguy> you cannot securely
[06:33] <KKEm> afk gonna install kubuntu, wont waste your time phunyguy
[06:33] <KKEm> btw there is new from dubmood :)
[06:34] <phunyguy> k....
[06:36] <Kubius> hi
[06:37] <Kubius> I messed up - tried to switch from kubuntu to lubuntu and didn't do it right
[06:37] <Kubius> it still boots to kubuntu after removing kubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <Kubius> which is really weird and not good
[06:37] <phunyguy> yeah that has never been a good feature.
[06:37] <phunyguy> never really had god luck with it.
[06:38] <phunyguy> always end up with a fresh reinstall afterwards.
[06:38] <zy3pD_m> Kubius so use the lubuntu iso and reinstall
[06:38] <bubbasaures> Kubius, What desktops are in the login dropdown?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> fresh installs are the best
[06:38] <Kubius> bubbasaures: when the computer boots, it just boots to kubuntu
[06:38] <Kubius> doesn't even show me an option for lubuntu
[06:39] <bubbasaures> Kubius, Have you set it to auto login in/
[06:39] <phunyguy> Kubius: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, and removing it will not remove KDE
[06:39] <phunyguy> in fact, removing it doesn't actually remove anything.
[06:39] <Kubius> I'm trying to use the super big command from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[06:39] <Kubius> but I can't do that from command-line
[06:39] <phunyguy> read my previous comment
[06:40] <phunyguy> your install is probably too far gone.
[06:40] <bubbasaures> Kubius, What release is this, not many of those desktops lists there are on supported releases.
[06:40] <zy3pD_m> Use lubuntu iso to reinstall!!!
[06:40] <Kubius> 14.04 afaik
[06:40] <phunyguy> You guys are more than welcome to help... but I have been down thos road before.
[06:41] <phunyguy> this*
[06:41] <bubbasaures> Kubius, There is no 14.04 desktops removal list at psychocats.
[06:41] <Kubius> r i p
[06:41] <phunyguy> ^
[06:42] <phunyguy> it is always a dicey move going from *-desktop to *-desktop.
[06:47] <Kubius> I considered moving away to plain old debian
[06:47] <Kubius> but I like the software for ubuntu, and lubuntu's a lighter distro
[06:47] <Kubius> not quite as light as debian, but has more features
[06:49] <phunyguy> Kubius: I get that.... but going from Kubuntu back to Lubuntu..... that's a bit of a stretch
[06:50] <Kubius> I made a mistake installing Kubuntu
[06:50] <phunyguy> Kubius: my advise to you is to pick a distro and stick with it once you find one that you like.... Install it fresh, and enjoy for the next 10 years.
[06:50] <phunyguy> advise*
[06:50] <Kubius> I've worked with LXDE on the raspberry pi (raspbian) and it's nice
[06:51] <Kubius> I liked kubuntu but it was holy crap resource heavy
[06:51] <Kubius> netbook with 1.6GHz processor and 2GB of RAM
[06:51] <Kubius> about 60 or 70 percent of ram dedicated to k(etc) processes
[06:51] <phunyguy> conversation is a bit offtopic, but you get the idea.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> how do i make a .deb file from my installed sux (version 1.0.1-6, not supported for trusty anymore) ?
[06:53] <kungr> kubius: Im just starting on an atom netbook as well and i like lubuntu as well
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> !info sux precise
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> or how can i download this .deb?
[06:54] <noark> !info hping3
[06:54] <phunyguy> !msgthebot
[06:55] <OERIAS> does anyone know how to change the cursor?
[06:55] <phunyguy> OERIAS: a bit of context would help immensely
[06:56] <Kubius> that's like "how far does this knob have to be turned" in that you can't really tell with no context
[06:56] <OERIAS> I'd like to know if I can change the default in Unity
[06:56] <OERIAS> *default cursor
[06:56] <OERIAS> the mouse cursor
[06:56] <Kubius> mm
[06:57] <noark> for chage cursor edit this file : /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[06:58] <Lucax> I have a fun question, I installed ubuntu on another laptop and encrypted and put password on the hard drive, now I am currently not remembering the password, are there any mysterious ways to recover ones own passwords?
[06:58] <OERIAS> noark, how if permission is denied?
[06:59] <noark> sudo gedit /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[06:59] <phunyguy> OERIAS: with sudo
[06:59] <noark> in terminal
[06:59] <phunyguy> !sudo
[06:59] <OERIAS> I did it with sudo
[06:59] <phunyguy> noark: also NO.  That is a bad idea
[06:59] <phunyguy> !gksudo
[06:59] <noark> sudo nautilus
[07:00] <phunyguy> noark: stop that
[07:00] <noark> find file
[07:01] <OERIAS> what do i do and given two separate way of doing this
[07:01] <noark> chage line 2
[07:01] <noark> with name u new cursor name
[07:02] <phunyguy> ...
[07:02] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> How do I have the ubuntu machine share the internet connection over wifi to an android phone?
[07:02] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: hello
[07:03] <phunyguy> still here, fyi
[07:03] <Fudge> howdy
[07:03] <OERIAS> noark, when you mean new name, the name of the folder of the cursor or what?
[07:04] <phunyguy> Fudge: hi
[07:04] <noark> OERIAS name u cursor name
[07:05] <Fudge> j4s0nmchr1st0s:  pretty sure you can set up a shared access point
[07:05] <phunyguy> Fudge: before you commit to that, please keep in mind that hardware is a limitation here.
[07:06] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Fudge: the phone doesn't see adhoc
[07:06] <phunyguy> the laptop wifi needs to be able to go into Master mode.
[07:06] <Fudge> phunyguy:  thanx for heads up mate
[07:06] <OERIAS> thanks noark it works. Finally someone who doesn't have a high horse attitude.
[07:06] <phunyguy> OERIAS: please don't do that
[07:06] <OERIAS> Do what?
[07:06] <maddawg> wow i'm impressed
[07:07] <phunyguy> OERIAS: we are all volunteers here.
[07:07] <Fudge> I think he means be grateful without bitching at everyone else :)
[07:07] <maddawg> i was able to install from an ISO stored on my local hard drive in the US over the intenet to a server in Germany
[07:07] <phunyguy> Fudge: I know what he means.
[07:07] <OERIAS> I said thank you phunyguy the credit goes over to right person.
[07:07] <Fudge> easy to feel like that when you try to get help and some dont, but most will if they know
[07:07] <maddawg> then boot from it over the internet and install a fully operational VMWare ESXi
[07:08] <phunyguy> maddawg: is there a point?
[07:08] <phunyguy> maddawg: are you asking for support?
[07:08] <maddawg> no
[07:08] <phunyguy> maddawg: wrong channel then.
[07:08] <maddawg> i was saying i was impressed
[07:08] <maddawg> i'm impressed i was able to do that without an hiccup
[07:08] <phunyguy> .....this is a support channel.
[07:09] <noark> OERIAS welcome
[07:09] <maddawg> well someone's got a stick up their a$$
[07:09] <phunyguy> maddawg: you know where -offtopic is.
[07:09] <maddawg> it was a followup for a support issue i was having earlier
[07:09] <OERIAS> Fudge, also yes i am grateful, it you that has to use that language here.
[07:09] <phunyguy> maddawg: is that all?
[07:09] <maddawg> i dont need support any longer on the issue as I got it, i was indicating I was impressed that it worked
[07:10] <Fudge> hey OERIAS  it was not my intent to be a difficult person toward you btw
[07:10] <phunyguy> maddawg: how much earlier?
[07:10] <OERIAS> fudge then if it wasn't your intention I suggest you change your tone towards people.
[07:11] <maddawg> like 4 hours... maybe... it doesnt matter
[07:11] <OERIAS> Well anyway, thank you noark
[07:11] <maddawg> maybe even a bit longer
[07:11] <bubbasaures>  maddawg You need a blog, I'd name it daily pants.
[07:11] <Quixx> I want to go from 13.04 to 14.10, should I turn on updates and try to let the updater do all of the work or should I make a new root install and try to use my current /home partition?
[07:11] <phunyguy> maddawg: yeah I don't think so.
[07:11] <Quixx> actually 12.10
[07:11] <phunyguy> bubbasaures: you too.... let's keep it on topic.
[07:11] <maddawg> dont think so what?
[07:11] <phunyguy> if there is no support question.... please leave it out of the channel.
[07:12] <phunyguy> maddawg: I just searched 8 hours back in my bufffer.  nothing from you
[07:12] <phunyguy> so again, can we please drop it?
[07:12] <maddawg> yes because i use the same handle with every client i connect with from every machine
[07:12] <rww> !eolupgrades | Quixx
[07:12] <maddawg> but yes we can drop it
[07:12] <rww> Quixx: I'd suggest a reinstall, personally.
[07:13] <maddawg> i'm in here under 4 different handles because i have computers in a few different locations connected still
[07:13] <Quixx> So how should I go about transferring settings? The install is old and full of gunk but I'd like to keep some stuff
[07:13] <Quixx> Like firefox settings and virtualbox, for instance
[07:13] <maddawg> what settings?
[07:13] <maddawg> you can copy those
[07:13] <maddawg> but what type of firefox settings?
[07:13] <maddawg> like bookmarks? or actual settings?
[07:13] <Quixx> History, bookmarks, and in my case current tabs
[07:13] <maddawg> oh yea just export them
[07:13] <maddawg> then copy them
[07:14] <maddawg> using firefox
[07:14] <Fudge> OERIAS:  fair enough
[07:14] <Quixx> And it looks like I can make 33 not look like poop so I guess I'll be upgrading from 22 or whatever
[07:14] <Quixx> hopefully some of the ram leaks have been fixed~
[07:14] <maddawg> also virtual box all you need are the guest files
[07:14] <maddawg> like the virtual machine files
[07:14] <maddawg> just copy those somewhere and back after you reinstall
[07:14] <maddawg> if you need apache configs or other programs then copy those too
[07:15] <maddawg> each one should have a seperate config file
[07:15] <Quixx> I've got space to do a separate root install and keep my current home and root
[07:15] <Quixx> so I guess I should do that and then start copying
[07:15] <maddawg> alternatively you could make an image of your drive as it is so that when you find something you want you can just go back to the drive
[07:15] <maddawg> like if you find you're missing a config
[07:15] <Quixx> don't have the space
[07:15] <maddawg> you can search your old image
[07:15] <maddawg> you have cloud storage?
[07:16] <Quixx> I hate 'the cloud'
[07:16] <Quixx> Hard backups
[07:16] <maddawg> well then hard backups it is for you
[07:16] <maddawg> i dont mind the cloud for some things
[07:16] <Quixx> Cept when all of your drives are dead like now.... although I guess I do have a spare 3.5 I could back up to
[07:16] <maddawg> wouldnt store my company's stuff on it
[07:16] <Quixx> but I don't think I'd have too many issues just keeping things on the current drive with separate partitions
[07:18] <Quixx> Oh look it gives me tons of options when I open the installer
[07:18] <Quixx> Gosh linux is so easy to use nowadays
[07:18] <maddawg> nowadays?
[07:18] <Quixx> First time I used linux was 2004
[07:18] <Quixx> Fedora 4 had just come out, and network drivers were spotty at best
[07:18] <maddawg> i first started with unix
[07:18] <maddawg> then moved over to linux
[07:19] <Quixx> Of course I was also quite young back then and didn't have the attention span to learn command line
[07:19] <maddawg> but careful phunyguy will go off on you for being slightly offtopic
[07:19] <maddawg> we're just robots with no personality.. please spit your question out so we can regugitate answers
[07:20] <phunyguy> next step is a ban.
[07:20] <Fudge> egg :p
[07:20] <Quixx> I also love working from a live USB when I don't have to enter PW for sudo
[07:21] <Quixx> <3
[07:21] <maddawg> oh puhleeze.. bans dont scare me i got enough machines all over the planet and enough handles that i'd just come back
[07:21] <maddawg> i'm not on AOL
[07:21] <Quixx> rip maddawg
[07:21] <Flannel> maddawg: Please take the random chatter somewhere else, so this channel can remain usable for technical support, thanks.
[07:21] <phunyguy> I would highly suggest that you pay attention to the portion of the guidelines that mentions "Don't be annoying"...
[07:23] <Fudge> Quixx:  would you like a sed string to have sudo use nopasswd?
[07:23] <Quixx> Is there any reason for me to use EXT3/4? I seem to recall 4 being a huge pain if it breaks
[07:23] <phunyguy> Quixx: ext4 is just fine.
[07:24] <Fudge> if it does testdisk is an awesome utility
[07:24] <Quixx> I'll try that next time I plug in my might-b-ded drive
[07:25] <Quixx> um, so I want to learn sed?
[07:25] <Chuck_Norris> Quixx: http://cb.vu/unixtoolbox.xhtml   -.-
[07:26] <Quixx> ty for the bookmark Chuck_Norris
[07:26] <Chuck_Norris> Quixx: np
[07:26]  * Chuck_Norris is the man -.- :D xD
[07:27]  * phunyguy sweeps up all the offtopic chat into a trash bin to prepare for more guests that need help.
[07:28] <cristian_c> lapion, hi
[07:32] <kungr> anyone got experience with ubuntu on an atom netbook
[07:32] <Quixx> New or old?
[07:33] <kungr> sec. looking for specs
[07:34] <kungr> but old yes 2yrsish
[07:34] <Quixx> If it's a newer one (last 4 years) then 14.10 should work fine, if it's an old single core then maybe try some old unsupported one
[07:35] <kungr> n450 atom 1gb
[07:36] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> kids, find a solution to the android wifi problem, I need to step up the intensity of my mind training
[07:36] <Quixx> single core... ehhh I'd give 14.10 a try
[07:36] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: you are really pushing buttons here.
[07:36] <kungr> i installed 14.04 ubuntu with lubuntu,kubuntu, gnome, Xubuntu etc
[07:36] <Quixx> Oh, what's it doing then?
[07:37] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: does your wifi adapter support master mode?
[07:37] <Quixx> Also I've always had bad luck running multiple DMs on a single OS
[07:37] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: How can this be probed?
[07:37] <kungr> lubuntu is snappy but i like the gnome interface. is there a way to make it snapper via minimal install or kernel recompile or both?
[07:38] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode
[07:38] <Quixx> Gnome 3?
[07:38] <kungr> yep
[07:38] <cristian_c> kungr, sudo apt-get install mate-desktop
[07:38] <phunyguy> cristian_c: offtopic, etc
[07:38] <cristian_c> phunyguy, ?
[07:38] <Quixx> Yeah if there is a ubuntu distro that has gnome by default then I'd look for that... mint, maybe default ubuntu has gnome 3?
[07:39] <phunyguy> also mate is not snappier than lubuntu
[07:39] <kungr> I have a compiled kernel on my desktop 1000Mhz and low-latency setting
[07:39] <Quixx> I've always had horrible luck doing separate DMs on linux
[07:39] <bubbasaures> Quixx, There is a gnome shell only release
[07:39] <cristian_c> phunyguy, yes I know, but 'i like the gnome interface'
[07:39] <Quixx> Yeah do what bubbasaures said then
[07:40] <kungr> gnome shell only?
[07:40] <phunyguy> ubuntu-gnome
[07:40] <phunyguy> it is an officially supported release
[07:41] <phunyguy> !ubuntu-gnome | does this work?
[07:41] <phunyguy> \o/
[07:41] <kungr> ya i tryed that first but the screen resolution didn't work out of the box and i couldnt click through the install
[07:41] <kungr> ubuntu-gnome is my desktop distro
[07:41] <phunyguy> oh :(
[07:41] <kungr> maybe i will try again
[07:42] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: yes it supports AP according to iw list
[07:42] <phunyguy> well, wait, how old is this PC?
[07:42] <phunyguy> kungr: ^
[07:42] <kungr> toshisha nb305
[07:42] <phunyguy> that tells me nothing
[07:43] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> If there is 'AP' in the list of "Supported interface modes" your device will support the Access Point mode with hostapd.
[07:43] <Quixx> What are the other officially supported flavors again?
[07:43] <Quixx> !flavor
[07:43] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: then click on the wifi icon and create new wifi network
[07:43] <phunyguy> not sure if that will share out or not, but worth a shot.
[07:44] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: not the HotSpot scripts?
[07:44] <phunyguy> I have no idea what scripts you are talking about
[07:44] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: :) this option was not there before
[07:45] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: very phunny
[07:45] <Skyrider> Ello
[07:45] <Quixx> Also I just realized I've been installing i386 instead of amd64
[07:45] <Quixx> what's the easiest way to fix this?
[07:46] <phunyguy> from ISO?
[07:46] <Quixx> yes
[07:46] <phunyguy> reinstall.
[07:46] <Quixx> I'd prefer not to redownload a whole iso
[07:46] <phunyguy> .....you asked for the easiest.
[07:46] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: What is the difference between open system and shared key?
[07:47] <phunyguy> One is wide open.... one is not...
[07:47] <phunyguy> I would assume you want the latter
[07:47] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: How can it be wide open when wep is set?
[07:48] <Skyrider> remove the wep? >_>
[07:48] <phunyguy> ^
[07:49] <phunyguy> j4s0nmchr1st0s: have you seen this link?  May be exactly what you need..... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/wifi-hotspot-ubuntu-laptop-android/
[07:51] <Quixx> As I was saying, commiecast charges me more money if I download too many ISOs a month.
[07:51] <gansteed> is there a app that can send sms through ubuntu?
[07:51] <phunyguy> Quixx: not really our problem....?
[07:51] <gansteed> like the new features in Yosemite?
[07:51] <phunyguy> gansteed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/324040/how-can-i-send-sms-from-ubuntu-to-cell-phones
[07:51] <Quixx> So is there a way for the updater to change the kernel or am I out of options?
[07:51] <kungr> commiecast, thats funny
[07:52] <phunyguy> Quixx: reinstall
[07:52] <phunyguy> Quixx: they are too different
[07:52] <phunyguy> there really isn't any other option
[07:53] <gansteed> phunyguy: thanks
[07:54] <phunyguy> I apologize for being snappy.  It is nearly 3 AM and I should be getting to bed soon.
[08:11] <myt> hello!
[08:12] <myt> First time ubuntu user here
[08:13] <myt> coming to you without a hard drive
[08:14] <myt> can someone help guide me towards getting this computer running on my usb drive alone?
[08:15] <myt> Every time I turn the computer off, I turn it on to find that any changes I made to ubuntu aren't saved
[08:15] <cfhowlett> myt, 2 choices: install to USB or just live boot.  USB boot is quite unstable and slow compared to an HDD install.  How much RAM have you?
[08:15] <myt> software, configuration, file and folders, it's all reset
[08:16] <myt> this is only a temporary solution while I order a new hdd
[08:16] <myt> How do I check how much ram I've got?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> myt open a terminal and run the command:  free
[08:16] <myt> btw, should we carry on in PM?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> myt, this is OK for now
[08:17] <myt>    total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:17] <myt> Mem:       8053516    2828312    5225204     457836     269176    1416216
[08:17] <myt> -/+ buffers/cache:    1142920    6910596
[08:17] <myt> Swap:            0          0          0
[08:17] <cfhowlett> myt, right.  so less than 3 GB of ram.  My suggestion: get lubuntu.  it's lighter and optimized for low specification and older hardware.
[08:18] <myt> oh
[08:18] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | myt
[08:18] <Ben64> what?
[08:18] <Ben64> thats 8GB
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Ben64, DOH!  right.  wordwrap on my display.
[08:19] <myt> oh
[08:19] <myt> yeah it seems to have been running fine so far
[08:19] <cfhowlett> myt, OK, standard ubuntu will be fine.  consider installing to the USB with persistence.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[08:19] <Ben64> you'll have the best time if you get a hard drive though
[08:19] <myt> So is live boot what I'm doing now?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> myt, yes.  so every reboot it resets - as you have observed
[08:19] <myt> I used an installer which used an ISO, and it set up the usb drive to work with this laptop
[08:20] <myt> And I need to install ubuntu to the usb for that to cease?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> myt, you did right.  installing TO USB is a different function
[08:20] <cfhowlett> myt, right.  have you another USB?
[08:20] <daschel> im getting a segfault in gnome, and it crashes immediately.  is there a command line tool to post the Xorg log file to paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:20] <myt> no
[08:20] <cfhowlett> myt, well ... time to go shopping!
[08:20] <myt> why do I need another?
[08:21] <cfhowlett> myt, one to boot from, one to install to.
[08:21] <myt> ehhh
[08:21] <myt> is a 1 gig drive enough?
[08:21] <cfhowlett> myt, (all real *buntuistas have a USB collection somewhere ... :)
[08:22] <cfhowlett> myt, nope.  another 8 gb stick and install Lubuntu
[08:22] <myt> mmm
[08:22] <myt> what if I have another laptop?
[08:22] <myt> it's a windows
[08:23] <myt> Can't I use that the same way I set up the usb I'm using now?
[08:23] <myt> that is, do it on the other machine
[08:23] <cfhowlett> myt, nope.  to install TO buntu you need ubuntu to be running.  OR ... you could install virtualbox on the windows machine and install lubunto to the virtualbox
[08:24] <myt> all this just so the system doesn't reset every time I turn it off?
[08:24] <myt> also wasn't lubuntu unnecessary
[08:25] <cfhowlett> myt, virtualbox will not have 8 gb of ram --- it's a vbox.  4 gb more likely.
[08:25] <myt> im a bit lost now
[08:26] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> phunyguy: it is not working the options are there but it never establishes connection
[08:26] <myt> so the second usb drive needs to be 8gb also?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> myt, virtualbox = a virtual machine - vm.  A VM uses system resources while running.  so your HOST os is running, and the GUEST os needs resources while it is on.
[08:27] <myt> this is if I use my windows laptop and only the one usb right?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> myt, for an install to USB 8gb will be fine.  plain vanilla ubuntu is about 7. something
[08:28] <cfhowlett> myt, write notes.  1.  install to USB; get an 8 gb USB and lubuntu.
[08:28] <myt> right
[08:28] <cfhowlett> myt, 2.  install to virtualbox; download virtualbox, install it in windows.  get lubuntu.  install lubuntu to vbox.
[08:29] <myt> are 1 and 2 seperate approaches to this, or steps?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> myt, totally unrelated operations.  thus the 1 and 2 ...
[08:31] <myt> so if I do that juggling act with method 1, I'll end up with a usb drive with a full installation on it
[08:31] <myt> and if the os alone is 7gb, will an 8gb usb be enough?
[08:31] <cfhowlett> myt, yep.  but you'd also have a full install with vbox.
[08:32] <myt> but that's method 2 not 1
[08:32] <cfhowlett> myt, to be sure: lubuntu or xubuntu.  both are less demanding than ubuntu.  when do you buy your replacement HDD?
[08:32] <myt> why do I need a vm if I'm running lubuntu
[08:32] <myt> It might be another week
[08:32] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Do you know nilarimogard?
[08:32] <cfhowlett> myt, I said: Install virtualbox to WINDOWS.
[08:33] <myt> ya
[08:33] <cfhowlett> myt, long story short: boot windows.  vbox is an app.  start vbox and place *buntu in a VM.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> myt, no usb's needed
[08:34] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> myt: is nilarimogard's code clean?
[08:34] <myt> huh?
[08:34] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, programs in the software center are generally considered safe.  NOT repo software is not so well regarded..
[08:35] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> cfhowlett: it is a ppa
[08:35] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> is it clean
[08:35] <myt> cfhowlett, windows is on my laptop which has an hdd, I don't need *buntu on it because it already has an os. I just need *buntu on this laptop because windows is too large
[08:35] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, no idea.  but ppa's = you break it, you fix it.  not supported here.
[08:36] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> cfhowlett: then fix the ap mode
[08:36] <cfhowlett> myt, sounds like install to USB might be best
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !ppa | j4s0nmchr1st0s, cryptic.
[08:37] <myt> thanks for the help cfhowlett, this is just what I was looking for
[08:37] <cfhowlett> myt  happy2help
[08:38] <Chuck_Norris> myt: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[08:38] <myt> oh!
[08:38] <myt> norris, that's exactly what I used to get to this point
[08:38] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Fix the ap mode the chip supports it.
[08:38] <myt> So do I do that again?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> !hardware | j4s0nmchr1st0s, sounds like you have a hardware issue.
[08:39] <Chuck_Norris> no no, if you already have ubuntu in your usb, so go ahead and boot your usb
[08:39] <myt> boot your usb?
[08:40] <myt> boot from it, like I'm doing now
[08:40] <Chuck_Norris> yes
[08:40] <myt> but...it's not installed yet
[08:40] <myt> and I don't have an hdd
[08:40] <myt> So the system keeps reseting on shutdown
[08:40] <myt> It sounds like there's nothing I can do about it with my 8gb usb and laptop alone
[08:40] <myt> at the moment
[08:41] <Chuck_Norris> no no, can you start the ubuntu installer?
[08:41] <myt> yep
[08:41] <myt> install ubuntu 14.04
[08:41] <myt> it says
[08:41] <Chuck_Norris> so, when the installer asks you for the hdd, select your usb, that's all
[08:42] <myt> maybe you can walk me through this, because I tried to install, with that in mind, before I came here, and had no luck
[08:42] <Chuck_Norris> yes i can, just send me pictures -.-
[08:43] <myt> should I download updates while installing?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> myt, you cannot install to the same USB you booted from ...
[08:43] <myt> :(
[08:44] <Chuck_Norris> why not?
[08:44] <Chuck_Norris> go ahead myt
[08:44] <myt> I'm hearing two different things here
[08:45] <myt> I'll have it not install updates for now...I assume I can install them later if this works
[08:46] <cfhowlett> source = target while running a live system = you're gonna have a bad time.
[08:46] <Chuck_Norris> yes, you can updated your ubuntu latter
[08:46] <Chuck_Norris> nope, cause it's a virtual filesystem, i don't remember its name -.-
[08:47] <myt> so I'm on the installation type screen on the installer
[08:47] <myt> device for boot loader installation is /dev/sda
[08:47] <Chuck_Norris> well this is were you gotta chose you usb
[08:47] <Chuck_Norris> where*
[08:47] <myt> and the box at the top of the menu shows device, type, etc
[08:48] <myt> hm, it just closed when I clicked 'change'
[08:48] <myt> and nothing showed up in the list either
[08:48] <Chuck_Norris> i dont remember, but... if you send me pictures, i will
[08:48] <myt> how can I most easily do that?
[08:49] <Chuck_Norris> press "ImprPant" then upload the pictue to imgur.com
[08:51] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Increase psyops
[08:52] <daschel2> im getting a segfault when i try to start gnome 3. here's the tail of the Xorg log file:
[08:52] <daschel2> cat: 1: No such file or directory
[08:52] <daschel2> cat: /home/brian/temp2.txt: No such file or directory
[08:52] <daschel2> err
[08:52] <cfhowlett> j4s0nmchr1st0s, ask your ubuntu questions
[08:52] <daschel2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8880201/
[08:52] <daschel2> has anyone seen this problem before?
[08:53] <daschel2> im stuck in the command line, so any assistance would be greatly appreciated
[08:54] <Ben64> daschel2: how are you trying to start x
[08:55] <daschel2> Ben64: by booting my machine.  restarting the gdm service doesn't work either
[08:55] <myt> cfhowlett, Chuck_Norris, http://i.imgur.com/nMnRxnG.png
[08:55] <Ben64> daschel2: should be lightdm
[08:55] <daschel2> Ben64: for gnome?
[08:56] <Chuck_Norris> myt: install now
[08:56] <myt> let's see...
[08:56] <myt> so even though nothing shows in the list above, it's alright?
[08:56] <Ben64> daschel2: yeah, unless you did something weird
[08:56] <Chuck_Norris> yeah, nothing show caouse you dont have any other hd
[08:57] <cfhowlett> myt, again: you cannot install to the same USB you booted from.
[08:57] <myt> no root system is defined
[08:57] <Chuck_Norris> cause*
[08:57] <myt> correct from partitioning menu
[08:57] <myt> sounds like cfhowlett is right
[08:57] <cfhowlett> myt, /dev/sda is typically the HDD ...
[08:58] <myt> I figured the folder structure would also exist on the usb
[08:58] <myt> why is it that you don't need two hdd's to do this, yet you need two usb's to do it?
[08:58] <Chuck_Norris> no no, cause you chose "something else"
[08:58] <cfhowlett> myt, folder does exist on the USB
[08:58] <myt> hm?
[08:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> How can I setup a tracking server?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> myt, your usb is housing your LIVE system.  it's off limits by default.
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !server | j4s0nmchr1st0s,
[08:59] <Chuck_Norris> there wasn't a option called "install ubuntu" then "Something Else"
[08:59] <Chuck_Norris> ?
[08:59] <myt> ?
[08:59] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> To analyze the zeitgeist data?
[08:59] <Chuck_Norris> myt: we could procede making manual partition if you -.-
[08:59] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> !releases
[08:59] <cfhowlett> myt, partitioning your boot USB, i.e. your mounted system, is a bad idea ...
[09:00] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> !current
[09:00] <Chuck_Norris> myt: do a click on "+"
[09:00] <daschel2> Ben64: maybe gdm is simply an alias? i've always used 'service gdm...'.  this is a fairly new machine (i built it 2-3 months ago) and didn't do anything too out of hte ordinary when i installed ubuntu.  regardless of what the service name is called i can't get into gnome
[09:00] <myt> hm
[09:00] <Ben64> daschel2: well did you ever have gui working
[09:00] <myt> i clicked + and the window closed
[09:00] <myt> same as when I clicked 'change' next to it
[09:01] <daschel2> Ben64: yes, it's never had a problem. and yesterday I didn't install any new packages.  The only thing I did was some programming.
[09:02] <daschel2> Well, i say it never had a problem, there's always been some conflicts with my graphics card
[09:02] <daschel2> but that was mainly with audio being recognized.  there is of course that Ubuntu/Gnome bug regarding monitor orientation with multiple displays
[09:02] <Chuck_Norris> myt: idk but, i pretty sure that i installed a puppy a couple of years ago onto a usb booting from it -.-
[09:03] <Chuck_Norris> !persistence | myt
[09:03] <daschel2> Ben64, and no, there is no lightdm.  I can't imagine why it would be.  the G in gdm stands for Gnome
[09:04] <myt> ah
[09:04] <myt> why haven't I tried this
[09:05] <Chuck_Norris> myt: oh! i know why the windows closed, cause first you gotta unmount the usb
[09:05] <myt> unmount it?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> pretty sure someone said that [09:06] <Chuck_Norris> myt: sudo umount /dev/sda
[09:06] <myt> but I can't...because the system is running on it
[09:06] <myt> won't I be out of business if I do that?
[09:07] <Surendil> morning everyone!
[09:07] <Chuck_Norris> no
[09:07] <lapion> cristian_c, you there ?
[09:07] <cristian_c> yes
[09:07] <lapion> Ya rang ?
[09:08] <cristian_c> lapion, I've makde the calculation you have said
[09:09] <lapion> I am not certain however if the system need a certain blocksize minimum ..
[09:09] <lapion> but did the seek I gave you work ?
[09:09] <cristian_c> lapion, I've looked at dd manpage, as well
[09:10] <cristian_c> lapion, values look wrong
[09:10] <cristian_c> lapion, yes, 2000+4000 = 6000, not c000
[09:10] <lapion> What are you talking about...
[09:11] <myt> Chuck_Norris, it now says not mounted
[09:11] <lapion> that's the seek
[09:11] <cristian_c> lapion, seek values for the dd command
[09:11] <cristian_c>        seek=N skip N obs-sized blocks at start of output
[09:11] <lapion> it seks till 6000 then starts writing so the next offset is 2000+6000+nextfiles
[09:11] <Chuck_Norris> myt: well, if you still got the windows opened then "Install now"
[09:12] <myt> do I need to do '+'?
[09:12] <Chuck_Norris> no need
[09:12] <myt> no root system is defined
[09:12] <cristian_c> lapion, I try to explain: first dd command is without seek value (I suppose offset is 0)
[09:12] <Chuck_Norris> ok, then "+"
[09:12] <myt> when I did the terminal command you gave me it then said unmount :  /dev/sda: not mounted
[09:13] <cristian_c> lapion, second dd command has got 0x2000 for seek value
[09:13] <lapion> yes first file ==0x2000 in size
[09:13] <myt> installer closed again Chuck_Norris
[09:13] <cristian_c> lapion, third dd command has got 0x2000+0x4000 seek value
[09:14] <cristian_c> lapion,  = 6000
[09:14] <cristian_c> lapion, fourth dd command has got 0x2000+0xc000 seek value
[09:14] <daschel2> hrm...im going to try something.  i'll be back
[09:14] <Chuck_Norris> myt: ok, sry, may be a good idea could be installing ubuntu from windows
[09:14] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> He is getting a segfault
[09:15] <myt> thanks for trying Chuck_Norris
[09:15] <cristian_c> lapion, 4000 + third .img filesize
[09:15] <cristian_c> I suppose
[09:15] <cristian_c> in bytes
[09:15] <lapion> cristian_c, yes
[09:15] <Chuck_Norris> there are installers for windows that download and install ubuntu in the usb
[09:15] <lapion> no cristian_c
[09:15] <cristian_c> uhm
[09:16] <Chuck_Norris> myt: let search for it
[09:16] <lapion> 2000+(4000+7000)==2000+c000
[09:16] <cristian_c> ok
[09:16] <myt> i'll be here
[09:17] <cristian_c> lapion, I suppose blocks are kB
[09:17] <Mr_Sheesh> uh c000 isn't == to 4000 + 7000?
[09:17] <Mr_Sheesh> b000 is tho
[09:18] <lapion> Mr_Sheesh, calculation mistake...
[09:18] <lapion> not actual mistake
[09:18] <Mr_Sheesh> unless you're doing base 15 :p OK
[09:18] <Mr_Sheesh> er not even in base 15, long day
[09:20] <lapion> cristian_c, device blocks are but the filesystem might have bigger clusters
[09:20] <lapion> so you'd have to round up to the nearest cluster
[09:20] <cristian_c> Mr_Sheesh, yeah, b000
[09:21] <lapion> 2000+(4000+8000)==2000+c000
[09:21] <cristian_c> ok
[09:21] <TheBigDeal> Morning
[09:21] <daschel> Ben64, in case you're curious, the problem was being caused from an unexpected device being plugged in before i tried to boot.
[09:21] <myt> did you say you were looking into something Chuck_Norris?
[09:21] <TheBigDeal> does lili support ubuntu 14.10?
[09:22] <TheBigDeal> or i should use unetbootin?
[09:22] <lapion> cristian_c, you would have to check also because sometime an image can be the beginning of a filesystem that is bigger than the size of the image
[09:23] <Surendil> lapion: cristian_c, trying to use dd to create usb boot?
[09:23] <cristian_c> lapion, sdcard own one filesystem (fat32)
[09:23] <cristian_c> Surendil, sdboot
[09:23] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[09:23] <cristian_c> *owns
[09:23] <lapion> yes Surendil for risc processor
[09:24] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, lili is third party you will have to figure which works best.
[09:24] <lapion> cristian_c, you have been writing to the sdcard so the original filesystem is gone..
[09:24] <cfhowlett> bubbasaures, unetbootin works as does startup disk creator
[09:24] <Surendil> lapion: cristian_c try this: sudo dd if=path/to/.iso of=/dev/sdx oflag=direct  bs=1048576
[09:24] <fancyfetus> Do you know of any good ways of opening emails over SSH?
[09:24] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, what do you mean?
[09:24] <bubbasaures> cfhowlett, and about 10 others
[09:25] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, use the one that works.
[09:25] <lapion> Surendil, all different risc images not iso image
[09:25] <cristian_c> lapion, in this case the filesystem is deleted, you are right, i've checked in gparted (my previous tries)
[09:25] <TheBigDeal> bubbasaures, lili says no configuration file found in boot
[09:25] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: I guess you can run a browser in ssh session and read your yahoo from that
[09:26] <Chuck_Norris> myt: yes, another mistake it's the same as unetbooting, sry i was banned here too much time without trying to help so... -.-
[09:26] <bubbasaures> TheBigDeal, Never used it myself, you easiest route is making sure the iso is good and using a usb loader that works, you may have to try several.
[09:26] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, I've never used ssh before... It's a way to access one of my school emails. It uses Thunderbird, I think.
[09:26] <bubbasaures> your*
[09:27] <cristian_c> Surendil, in the other dd commands there are conv and seek parameters
[09:27] <myt> so what's the consensus Chuck_Norris?
[09:27] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: as long as X is active in the ssh session you should be able to bring up most any app that runs in X from ssh
[09:28] <fancyfetus> would the server have to have X or the client?
[09:28] <fancyfetus> it's all command line for me right now and I have no clue which commands I have access to.
[09:28] <Surendil> cristian_c: i'm checking out!
[09:28] <cristian_c> victorhugoquero_, sorry, I'm using nopriv
[09:28] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: oh yes the other side would have to have the desktop libs to run them
[09:28] <cristian_c> victorhugoquero_, wait a moment
[09:29] <victorhugoquero_> hola cristian  how are yuo ?
[09:29] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: you client side must also have X to resolve it
[09:29] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, I can see the damn Thunderbird mail folders :( But I don't know what to do with them.
[09:29] <cristian_c> VoidWhisperer_, so, you are in whitelist, now :)
[09:29] <cristian_c> you can query me
[09:29] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: there are also text mail sessions
[09:29] <cristian_c> victorhugoquero_, so, you are in whitelist, now :)
[09:30] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, that'd be fine
[09:30] <victorhugoquero_> who spiker  in  spanish here please
[09:30] <Chuck_Norris> myt: cfhowlett was right :P and... i think you can do nothing but use that usb as "live cd" if you have ubuntu in the other PC, well, may be you can do the persistence method described in ubuntuwiki
[09:30] <cfhowlett> !es | victorhugoquero_
[09:30] <myt> is there anything keeping me from doing the persistence method now?
[09:30] <fancyfetus> sacarlson, is there a way to check to see if the client has X?
[09:31] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: text method http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_Mail.htm
[09:32] <daschel> fa
[09:32] <victorhugoquero_> join ubumtu es
[09:32] <Chuck_Norris> yes, due to the lack of another hd
[09:32] <cristian_c> lapion, ok, -rw-r--r-- 1 cristian cristian 1674294 mag 20 01:53 boot.img
[09:32] <cristian_c> sorry
[09:32] <victorhugoquero_> no d resultado  amigo
[09:32] <sacarlson> fancyfetus: you are the client so you should know if you have X as you must have a graphic screen
[09:33] <victorhugoquero_> ubottu no  da  resultado
[09:33] <cristian_c> lapion, the proper file: -rw-r--r-- 1 cristian cristian 4194304 mag 20 01:55 sdboot_rk3188.img
[09:34] <Chuck_Norris> myt: do you have a cd drive?
[09:34] <cristian_c> lapion, so, 4194304 I suppose they are bytes, so they are 4194 kB
[09:34] <myt> yes
[09:34] <Chuck_Norris> i meant in the same notebook
[09:35] <myt> yes
[09:35] <cristian_c> lapion, but this is a higher value than boot.img (1674 kB)
[09:35] <lapion> cristian_c, 4194304/1024=4096
[09:35] <cristian_c> :O
[09:35] <cristian_c> ok
[09:35] <Chuck_Norris> myt: well, download and make a booteable dvd with ubuntu, then boot from the dvd, plug the usb and run the installer
[09:35] <Chuck_Norris> this time it will work
[09:36] <Chuck_Norris> myt: plug the usb drive*...
[09:36] <lapion> Please pastebin all filesize values and the dd-s you did till now
[09:36] <lapion> cristian_c,
[09:36] <cristian_c> lapion, ah, ok, not / 1000, but / 1024, ok
[09:37] <cristian_c> lapion, ok
[09:37] <myt> doesn't need to be a dvd disk right
[09:37] <myt> cd-r or cd-rw is okay
[09:37] <myt> ?
[09:37] <Ben64> myt: doesn't fit on a cd
[09:37] <myt> oh
[09:37] <myt> so dvd then
[09:38] <lapion> Ben64, it does if he has a plextor and tweaks the writing proces.. plextor can write up to 1.2G on a 800MB cd
[09:39] <lapion> Ben64, 720MB disc
[09:39] <Generator_> I have a php script, i need to run this as a process, so I can start stop restart it using "services myjob start" etc commands. What is the best way to do this ?
[09:40] <myt> thanks Chuck_Norris
[09:40] <Chuck_Norris> myt: yes a dvd because ubuntu is 1 gb or so
[09:40] <cristian_c> lapion, http://pastebin.com/JY30mBHv
[09:40] <myt> and maybe I'll do that with lubuntu
[09:40] <Chuck_Norris> myt: np, sry believe i was good at support, but now, i am very bad xD
[09:41] <myt> maybe it'll encourage more efficient communication via the usb port
[09:42] <Chuck_Norris> myt: what is the processor?
[09:43] <myt> how do I check?
[09:43] <Skyrider> I really hate to ask it.. especially because the tons of debian/ubuntu discussions.. but I would like to see personal opinions on the matter.. I'm still currently on Debian, but might move over to ubuntu.. as said, personal opinions would be appreciated regarding the ubuntu OS.
[09:43] <Chuck_Norris> myt: lscpu
[09:44] <Chuck_Norris> myt: make a paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <lapion> cristian_c, blocksize =512
[09:44] <myt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8881148/
[09:45] <cristian_c> lapion, bs= ?
[09:45] <inerkick> Hi I am not able to change my password. Whenever I give it is not accepting. Kindly help how to remove password at this moment
[09:45] <Chuck_Norris> myt: yes, definitely "lubuntu" or "xubuntu"
[09:46] <matviy> "Please enable a repository containing the [grub-efi-amd64-signed] packages in the software sources of Ubuntu 14 LTC (sda5) and then try again" <---WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
[09:46] <myt> and when I finally get my hdd, normal ubuntu will be okay?
[09:47] <matviy> they want me to go into sda5 and enbale the sources? They want me to enable the sources on the current live os? i have no idea
[09:47] <lapion> nope cristian_c just take into account that dd is using 512 k block and the files are in 1024 multiples.. 0xc000+(0x663*2) = 0xccc6
[09:47] <lapion> so 0x2000+0xccc6
[09:48] <cristian_c> Last message I've read before disconnection * Guest36434 è uscito (Client Quit)
[09:48] <popey> matviy: that looks like a boot-repair error message
[09:49] <lapion> however if boot.img contains the beginning of a file system it could be that you have move beyond the end of the size of the contained file system size
[09:49] <cristian_c> uhm
[09:49] <lapion> nope cristian_c just take into account that dd is using 512 k block and the files are in 1024 multiples.. 0xc000+(0x663*2) = 0xccc6
[09:50] <lapion> so 0x2000+0xccc6
[09:50] <cristian_c> ok
[09:50] <lapion> the messages you missed
[09:50] <matviy> popey: it is. It's a nightmare i have no idea waht im doing