[18:04] <dAlfa89_> mMezquitale, GIMP is too slow and heavy for me, I was hoping to find something fast and small for basic fun pictures, nothing serious
[18:04] <cankoy> !info gpaint
[18:04] <mMezquitale> dAlfa89_,  are you using gnome?
[18:04] <coachz> it's been years since i used fedora and now i just don't know which distro to use for a new install
[18:04] <cellofellow> oh, never new about gpaint
[18:04] <cankoy> !info mtpaint
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpaint
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Lol
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:05] <cellofellow> GIMP works for me. :)
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> I still miss the good old Deluxe paint.
[18:05] <cellofellow> Or Inkscape.
[18:05] <mMezquitale> dAlfa89_, use gpaint like cankoy suggested
[18:05] <doonhamer> thanks DR Willis "which" worked , as did my guess on how to launch "which" command lol
[18:05] <maco> for rectangles, just use rectangle select, then flood it
[18:06] <Grenyaris> anyone ever use scp with the -F option?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  shell basics 101 :)
[18:06] <dAlfa89_> Yay, gpaint looks perfect (:  Thanks guys  :D
[18:06] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: did it work?
[18:06] <mikobuntu_> gimp is brill, i heard on here yesterday that it wont be part of the main install
[18:06] <alabd_> how to restart network-manager-openvpn
[18:06] <maco> mikobuntu_: yeah considered a more advanced program than necessary
[18:07] <coachz> i see in distro watch that Ubuntu is #1, so what makes it beat out Fedora ?
[18:07] <mikobuntu_> maco; true, but thats part of the fun...learning it.
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> check out the 'meet the gimp' web site/video tutorials/feeds for upping your gimp-fu-skills
[18:07] <maco> coachz: fedora is more aimed at bleeding edge, which sometimes requires fore-knowledge of linux
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  this channel, :)
[18:07] <coachz> i see :-)
[18:07] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  Nope.  When running the update-java part it gave lots of error messages that it didn't have any alternatives.  Besides it didn't find any gnash
[18:08] <doonhamer> foolish I know Dr_Willis but i skipped shell basics 101 ! sorry never the time lol everything is needs driven!
[18:08] <mMezquitale> coachz, dont know about fedora but ubuntu is for human beings, I prefer ubuntu because itś faster than open SuSE, the GUI works fine, and itś a breeze installing software
[18:08] <coachz> i'm in !
[18:08] <coachz> so i get version 9.1 64 bit i  guess
[18:08] <kc7zzv> My computer crashes while booting Karmic.  This is a fresh install and I have an intel graphics card.  "Crash" means that the screen goes black after fsck and before the gdm load screen.  Numlock and SysRq don't work.  Any advice what I should do next?
[18:08] <rethus> dracnoc: rethus: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:08] <Grenyaris> ok, other question... I have a Lenovo T-500. I upgraded to 9.10, now NetworkManager won't manage my Wireless - it says "Wireless is Disabled"... is there a config I can edit to change this?
[18:08] <rethus> before this i have to insert other repos?
[18:08] <coachz> this one?   edubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[18:08] <maco> coachz: 9.10 != 9.1  that wouldve been a january release ;) 9 = 2009, 10 = october
[18:08] <cellofellow> coachz: just to clarify: Fedora is the development playground for Red Hat. It's not *really* meant to be used.
[18:08] <maco> coachz: thats the education version
[18:09] <coachz> oh
[18:09] <cellofellow> maco: coachz: 9.1 wouldn't exist in this numbering scheme, it'd be 9.01 for January.
[18:09] <coachz> what one do i get for pc 64 bit
[18:09] <cellofellow> Format is y.mm
[18:09] <maco> cellofellow: yes i know
[18:09] <rethus> dracnoc: menas... i know it on suse... if i want to upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1 i have first insert other repos to zypper and then make zyyper dup (like apt-get dist-upgrade)... how is it on ubuntu?
[18:09] <coachz> i'm here:   http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:09] <cellofellow> coachz: depends. How much RAM do you have?
[18:09] <mMezquitale> Grenyaris, try turning the wireless card on
[18:10] <coachz> 2gb
[18:10] <maco> cellofellow: oh you mean the 0? yeah....i cant figure out how *else* youd parse 9.1 though :P
[18:10] <Grenyaris> It is on... I can use "ifup wlan0" etc... but Network Manager won't manage it...
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  i belive they have amd64 in the title/name
[18:10] <cellofellow> coachz: you'll get little benefit using the 64bit version. Get the i386 Desktop image.
[18:10] <coachz> why not 64bit though
[18:10] <coachz> what's the disadvantage
[18:10] <maco> coachz: no reason to go 64 without 4gib ram
[18:10] <cellofellow> coachz: only real benefit is the ability to address >4GB of RAM.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  i use 64bit on my machines even if i just have 2gb of ram. i find it helps my video reencoiding speeds.. and all my Lan is using 64bit.
[18:11] <coachz> ahh
[18:11] <coachz> ok so which one to dl
[18:11] <maco> coachz: and pointers are bigger on 64bit so youll have higher memory usage
[18:11] <maco> coachz: go for i386
[18:11] <cellofellow> coachz: unless you're going to be encoding lots of video, no real reason to use 64bit.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  so it depoends on what you want to do.
[18:11] <coachz> ok but which one:   http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:11] <coachz> i'll go 32 bit
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  the one that has 9.10 in the name..
[18:12] <cellofellow> coachz: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:12] <maco> coachz: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%98%C5%C3a%D0%BE_%2A%07%EA%8F%A5%05.Z%A4%80%97%E7%F6
[18:12] <coachz> thanks very much guys :-)
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:12] <maco> wow we have amd64 and ia64?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> or try kubuntu. or xubuntu
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> or get them all
[18:12] <coachz> isn't there  a dvd ?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  dont use the dvd
[18:12] <coachz> maco, that's just a cd
[18:13] <cellofellow> coachz: yes but... it's just extra language packs.
[18:13] <cellofellow> coachz: there's also SuperOS which is a DVD-size distro with lots of extra goodies.
[18:13] <X-Ray> hi all... suddenly, the NIC Broadcom desappear from my system... I have a Dell PowerEdge T300 and ubuntu 9.10 install on it
[18:13] <maco> coachz: ubuntu only requires one cd...
[18:13] <coachz> so that one cd gets me all i need to get x ?
[18:13] <cellofellow> coachz: yes
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  of course.
[18:13] <coachz> sweet !
[18:13] <coachz> thanks again
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> TinyCoreLinux can fit X into 10mb. :) but thats not ubuntu.. Heh
[18:14] <coachz> now i'm cooking
[18:14] <Grenyaris> There are some 20 odd Ubuntu flavored distros... http://www.nixtutor.com/ubuntu/20-ubuntu-derivatives-you-should-know-about/
[18:14] <X-Ray> so when I install the system, everything is work nice... bu when I boot the system, whereis eth0... just see eth1... I have two nic and see just one :|
[18:14] <X-Ray> I am very dissapointed with this!
[18:14] <cellofellow> xPUD is Ubuntu-based and has X and a Web-based GUI all in 25MB.
[18:14] <cellofellow> xPUD is awesome.
[18:14] <X-Ray> so I decide go back to CentOS.... :|
[18:15] <cellofellow> X-Ray: Why not Debian?
[18:15] <coachz> X-Ray, how long have you been trying to get this working ?
[18:15] <FewClues> @grenyaris  20? Is that counting all known dirivatives?
[18:15] <simplexio> X-Ray: ifconfig eth0 up ?
[18:15] <simplexio> X-Ray: lshw probably shows its there
[18:15] <sidewalk> anyone know if ubuntu 64 bit runs on an Atom 330?
[18:16] <Grenyaris> FewClues: Not sure...knowing Linux, it could be "20 of the top 100"  ;)
[18:16] <X-Ray> simplexio: no such device
[18:16] <simplexio> X-Ray: well does lshw or lspci tell tou that you have 2 ethernetcards ?
[18:16] <X-Ray> simplexio: lshw and lspci, both show me the NIC's
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  ive heard the atom's are not 64bit cpus. but no idea if thats ALL atoms. or only the older ones.
[18:17] <Vesayth> Hello. I'm having trouble accessing computers on my home network by their hostnames rather than their ip address. I'm connecting to the network via OpenVPN and as far as I can tell, I've pushed the correct settings to the client and it still doesn't seem to work right. Anyone have any ideas? The server is running Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit and the client is Vista 32-bit
[18:17] <X-Ray> simplexio: and when I remove tg3 module and re-load it , I see this message: udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1
[18:18] <cellofellow> Vesayth: sounds like it's not using the correct nameserver.
[18:18] <cellofellow> Vesayth: what does /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[18:18] <Grenyaris> Vesayth: "Vista 32-bit" - well THERE's your problem, right there...
[18:18] <Vesayth> cellofellow: one sec
[18:18] <cellofellow> oh, there's no /etc/resolv.conf in vista
[18:18] <cellofellow> How do you check the DNS configuration in Vista?
[18:18] <X-Ray> simplexio: I have other server. same configuration... And everything is correct!
[18:19] <orsonj> I have a half a gig of stuff in /usr/lib/debug/ Is it safe to delete that stuff?
[18:19] <armence> Is there an easy way to run a program when I login?
[18:19] <Zane2> i get this error only in ubuntu 9.10 , A hard disk may be failing one ore more hdd report health problems.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> armence:  depends on the program and what you want  it to do ;)
[18:19] <cellofellow> orsonj: no, probably better to go through synaptic and remove all the *-dbg packages.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[18:19] <simplexio> X-Ray: check what is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[18:19] <alabd_> there is a cert file how to give it's path to openvpn ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/323482/
[18:20] <armence> Dr_Willis: It's a command line python script
[18:20] <Zane2> but i dont get it if i then install 9.04 or even win7
[18:20] <orsonj> ok, thanks cellofellow
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> armence:  see  the !startup factoid info above. :)
[18:20] <Zane2> only when i install 9.10
[18:20] <Vesayth> cellowfellow: http://pastebin.com/m55696b39
[18:20] <X-Ray> simplexio: yes.. this file exist and show me two interface, with two different MAC's
[18:20] <Vesayth> where a.b.c.d = my router's ip
[18:20] <sidewalk> !scsi
[18:20] <cellofellow> Vesayth: that's on your server?
[18:20] <Vesayth> yes
[18:20] <Zane2> can i fix the reporting of this or ignor it
[18:20] <cellofellow> Vesayth: which box isn't working, the Vista box?
[18:21] <Vesayth> cellowfellow: correct
[18:21] <sidewalk> hmmpfz... no bot in ?
[18:21] <Cale> Is there a convenient way to inform the package manager that under no circumstances will I ever want to install pulseaudio or evolution, even if the operation I asked for would require it? I'd rather get an error message in those cases.
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  the bot replied. :)
[18:21] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, 9.11 drivers, 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides using multiple xorg.conf with separate drivers
[18:21] <Vesayth> cellowfellow: if need be I can also pastebin my smb.conf and openvpn.conf
[18:21] <simplexio> X-Ray: so that mean that there is two ethernet cards, check from there what names they use
[18:22] <BA^> how do i remove the title bar off a terminal window? i've used compiz with !title=trans but it doesn't work
[18:22] <maco> Cale: putting a hold on it in synaptic after removing it may work
[18:22] <pharum> hi ppl can any one tell me why my conky configuration dont show my active internet connection ?
[18:22] <pharum> http://wklej.org/id/211173/
[18:23] <X-Ray> simplexio: another day... sorry... but I have to go... BTW I re-install CentOS... More reliable.... sorry
[18:23]  * blast jumps
[18:23] <simplexio> X-Ray: yes,, and you nice troll.
[18:23] <Cale> maco: I'll try that, thanks
[18:23] <simplexio> one more to forever ignore list
[18:23] <sidewalk> does Ubuntu 9.10 installation for scsi require alternative iso, or not?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  ive never heard of it being needed.. but ive never personally had a actual scsi drive/controller card
[18:24] <sidewalk> i mean software raid
[18:24] <BA^> how do you remove the titlebar from a term window?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> sidewalk:  oh :) no idea on that
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[18:24] <cellofellow> Vesayth: I guess you need to check the DNS settings in the Vista machine then.
[18:25] <alokito> is there a good limewire-like opensource software in ubuntu?
[18:25] <blast> is there a webcam-recording package that actually works without corrupting any frames (aka: cheese sucks)?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire |  alokito
[18:25] <Vesayth> cellofellow: ipconfig /all lists the correct WINS and DNS servers. Here is smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/m4fe6fe23
[18:25] <Grenyaris> alokito: you mean for Torrents? or more like LimeWIre?
[18:26] <blast> frostwire blows compared to limewire
[18:26] <cellofellow> blast: try VLC.
[18:26] <alokito> Grenyaris: no I mean search and download
[18:26] <Ome> BA^, menu display => display title menu
[18:26] <cellofellow> blast: for Webcam.
[18:26] <alokito> Dr_Willis: thanks! i'll try that now :)
[18:26] <alokito> blast: u mean it's not so good as limewire? :-/
[18:27] <PacketCollision> anyone else noticed X-Chat freezing on startup (and sometimes when connecting to new networks)?
[18:27] <blast> cellofellow: does that *save* video or just play it?  and how reliably does it open video devices?  ive *never* had it successfully open *any* video device?  do you have any other ideas, cuz im fresh out?
[18:27] <marianom> randa, ping.
[18:27] <kostkon> PacketCollision, nope
[18:27] <alabd_> clicking on vpn connection name will not make it work , what is the problem ?
[18:27] <randa> marianom: hey
[18:27] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround (besides separate xorg.conf)
[18:27] <blast> alokito: yes, limewire is better, at least the versions of limewire and frostwire ive tried
[18:28] <BA^> Ome: i don't have that option. i'm using the default one in xfce under karmic
[18:28] <VCoolio> pharum: does the cat command work in a terminal? try to put | tail  behind it in your conkyrc
[18:28] <PacketCollision> kostkon: on my desktop it works fine (although during the 9.10 beta it froze on startup sometimes), but on my laptop it freezes about 3 out of 4 times I start it up.
[18:28] <BluesKaj> torrent sites are best , lime/frostwire are good apps but they contain a lotta garbage
[18:28] <PacketCollision> both are running Karmic amd64
[18:29] <johannes1> hi, is there a program to check if a usb stick is physically OK?
[18:29] <kostkon> PacketCollision, did you try reinstalling it for example
[18:29] <lu_> hi all
[18:30] <BA^> is there a better terminal out there that does transparency and can easily eliminate the title bar?
[18:30] <grawity> BA^: xfce4-terminal
[18:30] <nemo> BA^: huh. you'd think every terminal could do transparency now w/ compiz :)
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> BA^:  check the package manager theres proberly a dozen terminal alternatives
[18:31] <VCoolio> BA^: you'll need to convince your window manager to forget about the title bar; and roxterm is very good
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> BA^:  i like 'terminator' -its a gnome-terminal enhancement
[18:31] <whiteinge> I'm trying to script a headless install of Hardy-server into a VirtualBox vm. My preseed file halts the machine when the installation is done. It halts but does not power off. I've tried all the usual acpi/apm cheat codes. Anyone know if the server installation disk simply does not do acpi at all?
[18:31] <alokito> frostwire isn't in karmic repo? :-=/
[18:31] <PacketCollision> kostkon: I haven't on this install, but it happened on an install that was upgraded to release from the beta, and it still happens on a clean install from the release disk
[18:31] <BA^> ok thanks i'll try that
[18:31] <nemo> BA^: actually, gnome-terminal seems to do transparency just fine - and if fglrx was not teh suck, I'd be able to get my blurring of stuff behind it too :-/
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> alokito:  the factoid gave the url to get it
[18:32] <kostkon> PacketCollision, hmm
[18:32] <PacketCollision> Filed a bug, but it no one seems to be paying any attention to it
[18:32] <alokito> ok
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm I thouhg the terminal apps did 'fake' transparency. not true transparencly like you would get with compiz
[18:32] <kostkon> PacketCollision, hmm ok
[18:33] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: depends; roxterm has true transparancy, also the one with three characters, vde?
[18:33] <onlysomequesti> what about error "Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path"
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: well, it appears to be real transparency over here
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: it must be using compiz
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: for example, the scrolling text in background terminals updates fine
[18:33] <Bragex9> Which processor is best of theese two: Intel celeron dual core E3200 or AMD X2 3250E 1,5 GHz, 512 k?
[18:33] <nemo> Dr_Willis: I bet if I was on my nvidia machine at home, I'd get the blur too
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> nemo:  Hmm.. gotta see.. if i can find the setting to enable that.. (but i dont see the point of transpternt terminals, making text harder to read)
[18:34] <nether> I've been searching for a way to(through the terminal) install and use software to crack wep keys and possibly wpa if possible. everything i've tried came with an error, does anyone have any experience that can walk me through it step by step?
[18:34] <PacketCollision> nemo: afaik blur isn't enabled by default
[18:34] <PacketCollision> use compizconfig-settings-manager to turn it on
[18:34] <meking> any1 know where to find a real new moon cam
[18:34] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides separate xorg.conf (ubuntu 9.10, x32)
[18:34] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: could be nice if you're copying code from a howto in your browser; fake transparency will just display the wallpaper even if above a window
[18:35] <meking> does any1 know where to find a good new moon torrent??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[18:35] <PacketCollision> nether: you need a supported wifi card, and the use kismet and aircrack-ng.  Compiling both from source is a good idea, as the ubuntu repos are hopelessly out of date
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:  i got 2 wide screen monitors. :)
[18:35] <cankoy> Bragex9: /join ##hardware
[18:35] <jrib> !ot | meking
[18:35]  * VCoolio envies Dr_Willis
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:   :)
[18:35] <Bragex9> ok
[18:35] <pk> hi!
[18:35] <meking> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:  now i need a 4 head video card.. to put 2 up higher
[18:36] <meking> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[18:36] <meking> ???????????
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> meking: and how is that related to Ubuntu Support?
[18:36] <FloodBot1> meking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <jrib> meking: this channel is only for ubuntu support, not for testing your keyboard. stop.
[18:36] <onlysomequesti> are you there :0 what fix it error Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path
[18:36] <VCoolio> Dr_Willis: and a room in an airfield control tower </ot>
[18:36] <kostkon> onlysomequesti, maybe you need to install  libswt-gtk-3.5-java ? you could give it a try. http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libswt-gtk-3.5-java
[18:36] <onlysomequesti> hmm
[18:36] <meking> i though this was a chat room does any1
[18:36] <nether> how do i use the terminal to check if my wifi card is supported? I have aircrack-ng and kismet I believe, I also have wireshark if that matters
[18:36] <onlysomequesti> i look now thx
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> VCoolio:  i got upset when i realized i couldent use both monitors and the tv out on this card.
[18:36] <jrib> meking: it's a "chat room" about ubuntu support only, not about illegal torrents
[18:36] <PacketCollision> nether: what card do you have?
[18:36] <pk> Everytime I stop a wine application with sound all sound related plaugins like flash in firefox stop to work.
[18:36] <alokito> Dr_Willis: does frostwire use limewire's p2p network?
[18:36] <vladovg> hi again how to set up sudo password for user
[18:37] <pk> How to reactivate, any ideas?
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> alokito:  theres many clients that use that same network.
[18:37] <meking> o
[18:37] <jrib> vladovg: sudo password is your user's password
[18:37] <nether> ummm I'm not sure...lol
[18:37] <alokito> hmm ok
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> !p2p | alokito
[18:37] <PacketCollision> vladovg: sudo password is just a user's password.  You might need to add them to an appropriate group to do what you want
[18:37] <vladovg> wont to have root premisions
[18:37] <coachz> i got my Ubuntu cd burning.  i'll soon be one of YOU !  :-)
[18:37] <valdu55> Hello. My FF crashes
[18:38] <vladovg> wit su comand that all
[18:38] <FewClues> @jrib  are all torrents considered illegal?  I use it to download Ubuntu all the time.
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: yeah. I know
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> vladovg:  if the user is in the proper admin griup they will
[18:38] <alokito> k
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: unfortunately I can't turn it on since there is no support for it in fglrx :(
[18:38] <cellofellow> FewClues: torrent itself is legal
[18:38] <cellofellow> FewClues: just like http or smtp.
[18:38] <PacketCollision> nemo: ah, I didn't know that.
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: and actually no support for it in the OSS drivers either
[18:38] <vladovg> how ay eneible the root shel wit sudo -i
[18:38] <nemo> nor any planned
[18:38] <jrib> FewClues: no, but new moon torrents are...
[18:38] <VCoolio> vladovg: start with not using sudo for firefox, that is not useful; and under what circumstances does it crash? with flash? on launch?
[18:38] <nemo> PacketCollision: the card has the capability. not sure why it is not exposed under linux :(
[18:38] <xoveruk> how do i scroll down with 'top' command
[18:38] <vladovg> but ay won to enter the shell with su
[18:38] <alokito> valdu55: disable all add-ons and see if it still crash
[18:39] <FewClues> @cellofellow  Then why does Ubuntu include it in their packages?
[18:39] <jrib> !sudo | vladovg
[18:39] <coachz> what chat program do you guys use for IRC ?
[18:39] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides separate xorg.conf (ubuntu 9.10, x32)
[18:39] <PacketCollision> nemo: I've avoided ATI for years now, because of their drivers
[18:39] <nether> what's the code to check what chip i have?
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> valdu55:   dont use 'su' use the sudo -i, or sudo -s commands to get a root shell
[18:39] <Uber-Geek> coachz: I use xchat
[18:39] <valdu55> firefox -safe-mode ?
[18:39] <vladovg> oo
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  im using 'weechat'
[18:39] <FewClues> @jrib   Thanks.
[18:39] <lu_> I've got a little problem: I need office 12 and I successfully installed it on 9.10. Now when I try to open a document containing a space in its name or in its path, Office 12 starts well but it fails to find correctly the file. For instance, I've got a Word document named "my file.docx" and I open it through gnome interface, Word opens well but it tries to open "my.docx" and "file.docx" and complains to find them, logical! Have you an
[18:39] <lu_>  idea how to edit gnome right clic menu for opening documents that contain a space ?
[18:39] <onlysomequesti> kostkon: i do install now but java -jar xx after out Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-pi-gtk-3139 in java.library.path
[18:39] <PacketCollision> nether: try lspci |grep Wireless
[18:40] <vladovg> ay wont to set up the password to eneibal root premisions fo my thet all
[18:40] <VCoolio> valdu55: under what circumstances does it crash? with flash? on launch?
[18:40] <kostkon> onlysomequesti, you mean you are still getting the same error?
[18:40] <VCoolio> vladovg: sorry, got confused, ignore what I said
[18:40] <valdu55> With flash
[18:40] <nether> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> lu_:  as a possible work around, you could try just drag/dropping the file onto an open office app.  Other then that.  no idea
[18:41] <VCoolio> valdu55: which distro? karmic? what firefox version?
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanels
[18:41] <PacketCollision> coachz: x-chat or irssi, bounced through a ZNC proxy on a server.  Colloquy-mobile on my phone
[18:41] <valdu55> firefox 3.0.15 and xubuntu 9.10, same thing is with 3.5
[18:42] <PacketCollision> nether: that card should work afaik
[18:42] <VCoolio> valdu55: is it with just running flash or when you go fullscreen with it?
[18:42] <nether> so what should i do?
[18:42] <nelson8874> i'm desperate. i want to install ubuntu on a 250gb sata disk but it doesn't show on the instalation options!!!!
[18:42] <valdu55> its random crash
[18:42] <valdu55> with normal window
[18:42] <nelson8874> it is a sata 2
[18:42] <cellofellow> nelson8874: you try the alternative image?
[18:43] <nelson8874> what alternative image?
[18:43] <nemo> PacketCollision: I almost got an ATI card. I appreciate their better integration w/ X11 (Display management)
[18:43] <VCoolio> valdu55: did you install flashplugin-nonfree ? or try the plugin from the official site
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  check 'fdisk -l' in a console to see if the disk is seen there
[18:43] <nemo> PacketCollision: but. yeah. clearly their drivers continue to degrade
[18:43] <cellofellow> nelson8874: it's the text-mode installer. Installs in edge cases tthat the livecd breaks.
[18:43] <cellofellow> !Alternative
[18:43] <valdu55> non-free
[18:44] <nemo> PacketCollision: another thing ATI fails at - NPOTT - and that's crossplatform. a premature optimisation that completely screws up small textures, regardless of your settings
[18:44] <nemo> PacketCollision: is only in recent drivers...
[18:44] <nelson8874> Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[18:44] <nelson8874> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[18:44] <nelson8874> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[18:44] <nelson8874> Disk identifier: 0x000c8962
[18:44] <nelson8874>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:44] <nelson8874> /dev/sda1               1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:44] <FloodBot1> nelson8874: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <Moon_Doggy> kk everytime i start my machine theirs a pop up for the keyring manager for my wireless and wont connect till i enter my pass how do i bypass this so it just connects to wireless
[18:45] <Uber-Geek> here's one, I have two HD's, I want to format one for NTFS to use in vitualbox. Can ubuntu do that?
[18:45] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: you can set your particular wireless connection profile as "Available to All Users" and then it can even connect if you're not logged in.
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> Uber-Geek:  using virtualbox to access real/physical hard drives.. is not reccomended.
[18:45] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: right-click the network applet and click Edit Connections
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> Uber-Geek:   you can use the ntfsprogs package toformat a disk to be ntfs I recall
[18:46] <Uber-Geek> dr_willis: can I tell virtualbox to use that entire drive as it's virtual storage?
, what u think?
[18:46] <iceroot_> what is the name of the tool which comes if i press the print-key in gnome?
[18:46] <D3RGPS31> I have an ati 4850 video card, fglrx drivers; 3D is perfect but 2D is choppy; is there a workaround besides separate xorg.conf (ubuntu 9.10, x32)
[18:46] <PacketCollision> Moon_Doggy: go to applications->accessories->Encryption keys..., right click on Passwords: Login, and change the password to your login password
[18:46] <nelson8874> http://paste.ubuntu.com/323593/plain/
[18:46] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: still, the real problem is that the key is being stored in the "default" keyring instead of the "login" keyring.
[18:47] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: or do what PacketCollision said.
[18:47] <coachz> see you all on the other side :-)
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> Uber-Geek:  you could make a 'disk image' the size of a whole drive if you wanted..
[18:47] <valdu55> VCoolio, what u think?
[18:47] <coachz> cd is done burning :-)
[18:47] <nelson8874> Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000c8962     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1               1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:47] <VCoolio> valdu55: i think I gotta go, sorry; try the adobe flash plugin, no intelligent further ideas
[18:47] <Uber-Geek> Dr_willis: ok, still need to play with virtualbox a bit, thanks for the info
[18:48] <PacketCollision> Uber-Geek: virtualbox GUI doesn't support whole-disk images, but the command-line tools do
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  so you got 2 hard drives - each are 100% ntfs filesystems it seems?
[18:48] <valdu55> mm it has crashed on google
[18:48] <X-Seti> is there a way to turn the touchpad of in ubuntu 9.10 the option i know on gnome has been removed??4
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> !info gsynaptics
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> X-Seti:  try the gsynaptics tool?
[18:49] <PacketCollision> Uber-Geek: I switched to KVM, so I can't help you with the specifics, but google brought me to the right place, it will probably help you too
[18:49] <nelson8874> at this point i only have the 250gb disk, empty
[18:49] <X-Seti> thankyou
[18:49] <cellofellow> X-Seti: there's also the command synclient that will get some of that stuff done.
[18:49] <Guest51310> if I apt-get the kubuntu desktop when I already have the ubuntu desktop, will I be able use to either interchangably?
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  yes.
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  and you can use kde apps on gnome and visa versa
[18:50] <Moon_Doggy> packetcollision i'm using xubuntu and i dont see encryption keys
[18:50] <nether> so what should i do?
[18:50] <money> herro
[18:50] <cellofellow> Moon_Doggy: install seahorse
[18:51] <Kannonball> hey there
[18:51] <dailystruggle> without running gnome how can I take screenshots
[18:51] <dailystruggle> ?
[18:51] <PacketCollision> Moon_Doggy: try running seahorse from commandline
[18:52] <PacketCollision> I don't know if it's used in Xubuntu though
[18:52] <iceroot_> dailystruggle: in a gui?
[18:52] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: um, scrot will work in X, and I know I've done a command that can take screenshots on the console too.
[18:52] <Guest51310> Dr_Willis: and is there any downside as far as Gnome and KDE compatibility?
[18:52] <dailystruggle> yes
[18:52] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: scrot
[18:52] <cellofellow> fbgrab for the console
[18:53] <inh> having issues with a usb mouse.it randomly dies after awhile, and after my screen saaver is turned off it is jumpy and doesnt work right
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  at one time the default file manager setting used to fight/confilict but i think thats been fixed. You will have a LOT more icons in themenus. and some maybe redundant/identicaally named for  similer/dffrent tools
[18:53] <Moon_Doggy> packetcollision no seahorse
[18:53] <inh> when i plug it back in after acting up it doesnt even show up in dmesg
[18:53] <Kannonball> anyone know eta of support to the ati ES1000?
[18:53] <dailystruggle> not full gnome not full kde
[18:53] <PacketCollision> Moon_Doggy: sorry, no idea then
[18:53] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: scrotis just a command line app
[18:54] <dailystruggle> really is it in synaptic
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> !info scrotis
[18:54] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: yes
[18:54] <cellofellow> !info scrot
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:54] <cellofellow> Dr_Willis: I missed a space in "scrot is"
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> sounds 'dirty' :P
[18:54] <dailystruggle> thanks
[18:54] <Guest51310> I tried it once with 8.10, and something went haywire with the xserver in KDE and wasnt usable at all. any idea why?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> cellofellow:  that sounds nicer then. :)
[18:54] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Does it?
[18:54] <vladovg> did some one know alternative for object bock launcher
[18:55] <grawity> Dr_Willis: There's "scrotwm" too, a window manager. :P
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> !info scrotwm
[18:55] <PacketCollision> nether: I recommend installing aircrack-ng from source
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> !info pornview
[18:55] <dailystruggle> so I would be able to create a launcher
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  Yep. its hard comming up with original names these days.
[18:56] <Portunus> I require help with connecting to a database through a VM running Ubuntu, using mysql and php; I know how to connect to a server but even though I provide the correct information, it still can't find it. Help!
[18:56] <Guest51310> Dr_Willis: I tried it once with 8.10, and something went haywire with the xserver in KDE and wasnt usable at all. any idea why?
[18:56] <chea> if I need to mount something at start up, where would be the best place to put it?
[18:56] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: yup
[18:56] <cellofellow> dailystruggle: there's also gscrot if you want a gui to go with it.
[18:56] <cellofellow> !info gscrot
[18:57] <cellofellow> Which apparently is only available in a PPA.
[18:57] <dailystruggle> Thank you very very much
[18:57] <dailystruggle> later
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  kde4 is verymuch a work in progress. :) was even more in progress back then
[18:58] <Guest51310> if it just stright up doesnt work, I can always apt-get remove it, right?
[18:58] <mMezquitale> Portunus, the first step is to figure out if you have connection to the server within the VM, I have seen some people that have had issues with VM and NAT
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  removing a whole 'kubuntu-desktop' may be a little harder   - its doable.. but theres always a chance of some cruft getting left behind
[18:59] <kostkon> cellofellow, do you mean shutter?
[18:59] <ljpp> Interestingly, after using every Ubuntu version since Feisty with somewhat good success, the Karmic does not work on my T41 Thinkpad at all.
[18:59] <kostkon> !info shutter
[18:59] <wrapster> i have 100g of unformatted space.. but cannot create partitions as i've already set up 4 primary ones... how do i create an extended partitition ...
[18:59] <wrapster> so that i can pull in the space
[18:59] <chea> Asking again, hopefully with a more refined question. I want to mount my disk at start up, with a specific mount point, any ideas where I should place any script or whatever?
[18:59] <wrapster> i've chosen one partition for it..
[18:59] <wrapster> i mean one existing partition.
[19:00] <cellofellow> wrapster: you need to remove one of your primary partitions to put in an extended. Or you can just resize (expand) one of your existing partitions.
[19:00] <chea> nvm found it, thanks.
[19:00] <wrapster> cellofellow: i tried that..
[19:00] <cellofellow> hm
[19:00] <wrapster> but the resize wont work..
[19:00] <Guest51310> Dr_Willis: is it worth the possible hassle? Im really just curious about what KDE has to offer, having only really delved into GNOME
[19:00] <wrapster> should i first unmount the partitons before trying a resize?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> Guest51310:  test with a live cd if you want
[19:00] <cellofellow> wrapster: you can't partition a mounted drive. Use the livecd.
[19:01] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!)
[19:01] <cellofellow> kostkon: oh, yes, they changed the name of gscrot to shutter, didn't they?
[19:01] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks... where is my network icon on karmic?  i dont see a thing to pick wireless networks
[19:01] <kostkon> cellofellow, yeap
[19:02] <wrapster> cellofellow: how can i do it with a livecd this is the first time im attempting it.. could you be more specific pls
[19:02] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: nm-applet may not be running. Try running it from the terminal.
[19:02] <cellofellow> wrapster: start the livecd and then run Gparted.
[19:02] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, dont see it after that... go tthese messages ** (nm-applet:28798): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[19:02] <cellofellow> wrapster: also log in to IRC and ask questions as you go.
[19:02] <wrapster> ok.
[19:02] <wrapster> ok
[19:02] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: looks like dbus isn't working right.
[19:02] <cellofellow> hmm
[19:03] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!)
[19:03] <klslowik> hi everybodu
[19:03] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on a 250gb sta2 disk but it doesn't show on the instalation options, but it shows on the gparted and on the location menu (i'm using a live cd)
[19:03] <cellofellow> nelson8874: why not try the alt cd? Obviously ubiquity is having issues.
[19:03] <klslowik> I have some problem with notif-osd when I upgrade my system to ubuntu 9.10
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  i would partion the disks using gparted/fdisk - or just delete all the parttions (you will LOSE ALL DATA in that case) and let theinstaller  use the uinallocated space
[19:04] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis: al my other disks appear on the instalation options (2 ide's and another sata)
[19:04] <iceroot_> klslowik: post details to the channel
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  if you want to keep windows. Use windows to resize the ntfs partitions.
[19:04] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis:the disk is empty
[19:05] <klslowik> my window notif
[19:05] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!) anyone?
[19:05] <klslowik> my notif window id green with some dot
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  thers 'empty' then theres 'blank' then theres 'unallocated' :)
[19:05] <nelson8874> Dr_Willis: and is formated in ext3
[19:05] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, how do i get dbus working
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> nelson8874:  im out of ideas then.
[19:05] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: not sure...
[19:05] <klslowik> when in ubuntu 9.04 it's ok??
[19:05] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: what does `ps aux | grep dbus` show (sans quotes of course).
[19:06] <fasfasf> I don't know okay=
[19:06] <shawn__> how do i install graphics drivers for me intel laptop. just installed karmic and its running very slow. restricted drivers app did not give me an option to choose a graphics driver after install
[19:06] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, http://pastebin.com/f72d74db2
[19:07] <gheddy_zarc> hi tried to upgrade to 9.10 but 4 minutes from end of download using synaptic the download window disapears ? using 9.04 currently
[19:07] <coz_> shawn__,  I think the intel drivers are installed automatically
[19:07] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: well, it seems to be running just fine.
[19:07] <nelson8874> cellofellow: i would try that but i must downloade it and i have just one optical disk, that i'm using for the live cd
[19:07] <coz_> shawn__,  there may be other drivers available but I am not up on intel drivers at all
[19:07] <cellofellow> nelson8874: dunno what to tell yah
[19:07] <pk> arooni-mobile___: what does `ps aux | grep dbus` show:
[19:07] <nelson8874> :)
[19:08] <cellofellow> pk: he already did that
[19:08] <nelson8874> i mean :(
[19:08] <pk> shows alot what you need exactly
[19:08] <cellofellow> pk: it's running fine
[19:08] <cellofellow> pk: http://pastebin.com/f72d74db2
[19:08] <shawn__> coz_, everything is running extremely slow. like window redraw and resize is painful
[19:08] <arooni-mobile___> i would love my nm-applet back ;p
[19:08] <nelson8874> i've googled about it nd lso nothing
[19:08] <coz_> shawn__,  you have compiz running right?
[19:08] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile___: what was the output from running it, again?
[19:08] <nelson8874> will try to instal on another disk...
[19:09] <nelson8874> anyway thanks to all
[19:09] <shawn__> coz_, no i turned it off
[19:09] <Bayam> @@
[19:09] <Bayam> hello
[19:09] <jcrawford> ok so someone said I could enter commands like this in gnome but i had to step out so i missed where they said to add it.  I want this command to run everytime that i start the system: ssh -L 3306:localhost:3306<EMAIL_ADDRESS>&
[19:09] <iceroot_> !pm | klslowik
[19:09] <pk> plz help! how to restart pulseaudio in karmic (pulseaudio -k doesn't do the job!) anyone?
[19:09] <wrapster> im back
[19:09] <coz_> shawn__, mmm   because there is a setting for  resize  that can be very slow  but you are saying it is slow without compiz  ok   what dies      lspci | grep -i vga     spit out
[19:09] <wuffi600> could you please help me with that problem: If i do a "aptitude update" i get an error-message about "signature verification", please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/323544/ . How can i get rid of the error-message and get aptitude working?
[19:09] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, http://pastebin.com/f72d74db2
[19:09] <wrapster> could you help me pls
[19:10] <fasutus> i have a radeon 7000 and can't render screenlets correctly. any ideas?
[19:10] <Bayam> @@
[19:10] <arooni-mobile___> cellofellow, oops!  http://pastebin.com/f701874e2
[19:10] <klslowik> I have problem with my notif-osd when I upgrade ubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:10] <coz_> shawn__,   I mean what does    lspci | grep -i vga  spit out
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> jcrawford:  you want that to run at BOOT time? or just when the user logs in?
[19:10] <fasutus> i don't have an xorg.conf which is weird
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> never mind.. :)
[19:10] <Bayam> how to upgrade ubuntu 9.01 to ubuntu 9.10?
[19:10] <klslowik> notif window show only green background
[19:10] <cellofellow> jcrawford: see the System > Preferences > Startup Apps
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> fasutus:  not really. :) i have several machines with no xorg.conf
[19:10] <klslowik> I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[19:10] <shawn__> coz_, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:11] <cellofellow> jcrawford: you'll want to set up key-based auth though
[19:11] <fasutus> dr_willis: i was told to edit that file to get the proper config for my 7000 card. how should i remedy this problem?
[19:11] <Bayam> i wanna ask some thing
[19:11] <grawity> Bayam: Then just ask.
[19:11] <jimboa> than ask
[19:11] <Bayam> ubuntu 9.10 stable or not?
[19:11] <klslowik> Bayam: stable
[19:11] <coz_> shawn__,  ok hold on
[19:11] <wrapster> cellofellow: you there>?
[19:11] <Bayam> owh
[19:11] <Bayam> good2
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> fasutus:   xorg and ati have been doing a lot of chagnes.. so it depends on what you were supposed to do to the file.
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> fasutus:  i dont use ati any more. Sorry
[19:12] <Bayam> what diffrent ubuntu9.10 and ubuntustudio?
[19:12] <coz_> shawn__,  do you know how much memory is allocated in the bio for that video chip?
[19:12] <fasutus> it's sounding like i need a new card, but i wish there was something to do with what i had
[19:12] <cellofellow> wrapster: yes
[19:12] <coz_> shawn__,  you may want to check that and increase the amount of shared memory for the intel chip
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Bayam:  studio includes a lot of media-creation type apps  i recall. Is the big diff
[19:12] <shawn__> coz_, how do i check that?
[19:12] <wrapster> cellofellow: ok so what do i do now? Im on the livecd and looking at gparted!
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-studio
[19:12] <coz_> shawn__,  do you know how to get into the bios of your computer?
[19:12] <cellofellow> wrapster: how many partitions does it show?
[19:13] <shawn__> coz_, yes
[19:13] <Bayam> whith one better?
[19:13] <wrapster> cellofellow: 5
[19:13] <IdleOne> ubuntu studio probably has release notes on the site
[19:13] <cellofellow> 5?
[19:13] <Bayam> which one better?
[19:13] <coz_> shawn__,  ok in the bios... there should be a video memory settings if this is a fairly new laptop
[19:13] <shawn__> coz_, it is
[19:13] <fasutus> damn, i really like kubuntu but most of it doesn't work since the windows don't render
[19:13] <Bayam> sorry..my english very bad
[19:13] <cellofellow> wrapster: thought you said it was just primary partitions.
[19:13] <shawn__> coz_, a few months
[19:13] <coz_> shawn__,  do you know how much system memory total  you have?
[19:13] <wrapster> yeah
[19:14] <wrapster> i can see 5 ext3 partitions
[19:14] <shawn__> coz_, 3gb
[19:14] <IdleOne> Bayam: depends what you want to do. if you do a lot of music/ video editing then studio might be what you want. then again you can install all the same applications in Ubuntu
[19:14] <mMezquitale> Bayam, ubuntustudio is a multimedia based ubuntu, all the multimedia apps are already configured in ubuntustudio and it has a more simple  menu for your appz, if you want to add any app that ubuntustudio doesnt have, you can do so the usual ubuntu way
[19:14] <cellofellow> wrapster: so, which ones do you want to keep, and which ones get to go?
[19:15] <fission6> how do i mount nfs easiest in ubuntu
[19:15] <coz_> shawn__, ok  reboot the system and to get into the bios it is  F1  or F2  or  Delte button  you will have to see which it is   then ...check for any video memory settings ....see what that is set to ..if less than 256  you have plenty of system memory to increase that  even beyond  256
[19:15] <Bayam> how do i do it?
[19:15] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I print to JPEG?
[19:15] <coz_> shawn__,  rathe  F1  or  F2  or Delete button
[19:15] <IdleOne> Bayam: do what? install ubuntu?
[19:15] <cellofellow> fission6: manually editting /etc/fstab afaik. htere might be an easier way (one that works for wireless, for example, or a GUI) but I don't know of any.
[19:15] <Bayam> from ubuntu to ubuntustudio app
[19:15] <shawn__> coz_, whats a decent size to increase it to?
[19:15] <cellofellow> !ingo ubuntu-studio-desktop
[19:16] <cellofellow> !info ubuntu-studio-desktop
[19:16] <cellofellow> meh
[19:16] <coz_> shawn__,  minimum 256  if possible increase that to 512
[19:16] <IdleOne> Bayam: you can install applications using Synaptic package Manager
[19:16] <fission6> cellofellow: is t hta itm, do i need to install anything to support nfs
[19:16] <cellofellow> I know there's an ubuntu-studio package.
[19:16] <Bayam> how?
[19:16] <cellofellow> fission6: there might be...
[19:16] <cellofellow> !nfs
[19:16] <Bayam> owh
[19:16] <coz_> shawn__,  then you will have to save that  setting...reboot  and see if anything is not working correctly
[19:16] <Bayam> then?
[19:16] <jcrawford> ok guys i really need some help lol.  I need to have this command run in the background with every boot of the machine: ssh -L 3306:localhost:3306<EMAIL_ADDRESS>&
[19:16] <Bayam> can you teach me
[19:16] <IdleOne> Bayam: go to System > Administration > Synaptic. select the app you want and then click apply
[19:16] <shawn__> coz_, ok i will check that out. thanks for the pointers
[19:16] <jcrawford> i added it to /etc/init.d/mysql_tunnel but it does not seem to be connecting
[19:16] <coz_> shawn__,  no problem...let us know if that helps at all
[19:17] <jcrawford> I have setup my keys and i can ssh in terminal without the need for a password
[19:17] <Bayam> then?
[19:17] <IdleOne> Bayam: then what? Use the application
[19:17] <mMezquitale> bayam sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[19:17] <Araneidae> Any fix for missing shared library libstdc++.so.5? Seems Ubuntu 9.10 is missing the libstdc++5 package...
[19:17] <cellofellow> jcrawford: you probably need to put those keys in /root instead of ~.
[19:17] <g4br13l> ::: Bayam<EMAIL_ADDRESS>pediu um VERSION de #ubuntu.
[19:17] <mphill_> when i want to resize windows the corners are near impossible to select and drag, there is like a 3 pixel area you need to get the pointer on, is there anyway to improve this? I am using metacity, maybe I need to switch to emerald?
[19:17] <shawn__> coz_, could this be my issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/416073
[19:17] <cellofellow> mMezquitale: yay! somebody knows the package name
[19:17] <jcrawford> hmm
[19:17] <jcrawford> cellofellow, i will try that now
[19:18] <wrapster> cellofellow: give me a few mins here.. its a little tough to decide :)
[19:18] <coz_> shawn__,  looking   hold on
[19:18] <cellofellow> wrapster: backups are recommended
[19:18] <wrapster> cellofellow: ive done it already... im just mounting all the partitions to see if the data there is necessary or not...
[19:18] <mMezquitale> cellofellow, I'm using ubuntustudio, isn't everyone else?!?
[19:19] <cellofellow> mMezquitale: fraid not
[19:19] <wrapster> cellofellow: but one more thing.. the partition numbers displayed here will be the same as that being displayed on the installed machine right...
[19:19] <cellofellow> I intended to install UbuntuStudio along side regular Ubuntu, but it didn't work out.
[19:19] <cellofellow> wrapster: yeah
[19:19] <jcrawford> cellofellow, can you explain why though?
[19:19] <apeepa> hello everyone, I have a webservice where I recieve XML posts trough HTTP (php CURL) .. I want to setup my iptables so I am protected against attacks, can someone please point me int he right direction since I am really new at this.
[19:19] <cellofellow> wrapster: if they're all out of order you can rename them
[19:19] <coz_> shawn__,   that is certainly possible...but  since I am not up on all intel issues  you could go to #intel  channel and see if they have any solutions especially for kernel version
[19:19] <jcrawford> because when i login it should connect
[19:19] <coachz> that was easy :-)
[19:20] <jcrawford> or is everything run as root on startup?
[19:20] <mMezquitale> Bayam, once you install ubuntustudio-desktop you have to install the realtime kernel to lower latency in your applications: sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[19:20] <coachz> xp dead, now running ubuntu . yay
[19:20] <cellofellow> jcrawford: cause the ssh command will be running as root and need the keys to be in /root where it will access them.
[19:20] <cellofellow> jcrawford: /root/.ssh/ in particular.
[19:20] <wrapster> cellofellow: i dont want to delete sda1 which has trash now . only to reboot and see.. that sda1 did not have trash but something important
[19:20] <jcrawford> cellofellow, will that still forward my port even though my app is not running as root?
[19:20] <shawn__> coz_, will check that out as well, do you know what server the intel channel is on?
[19:20] <wrapster> cellofellow: this wont happen right.
[19:20] <jcrawford> cellofellow, yea i followed you on the .ssh/
[19:20] <cellofellow> jcrawford: also, may want to put -fN options on the SSH command. -f means fork to background and -N means don't run anything on the server.
[19:20] <coz_> shawn__,   I dont want to guide you in the wrong direction..so...any input from any of the bug reports and also other channels  is always good to keep in mind before making many changes the the system
[19:21] <jcrawford> cellofellow, ah thanks for that tip will do that now
[19:21] <cellofellow> wrapster: they will be the same.
[19:21] <kossan> Anyone with any advice on where to even start look why my screensaver isn't working?
[19:21] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I print to JPEG?
[19:21] <jcrawford> so ssh -fNL then?
[19:21] <cellofellow> jcrawford: yeah
[19:21] <k0d3g3ar> ne1 got one of those Dell 10v Mini Netbooks with Ubuntu on it?  if so, what do you think of it?
[19:21] <jcrawford> or do they have to be seperate -f -N -L
[19:21] <cellofellow> jcrawford: as long as L is last
[19:21] <jcrawford> then i can remove the & right?
[19:21] <cellofellow> jcrawford: yes
[19:21] <jcrawford> since i have added -f
[19:21] <jcrawford> ok
[19:22] <Funzo> kossan: does it just not come or does it look all messed up
[19:22] <Jookya> im having issues with getting DMRAID going on ubuntu 7.1
[19:22] <coachz> how do i get the Nvidia driver for my 7900 GS please ?
[19:22] <kossan> Funzo: It won't even start fading
[19:22] <jcrawford> should i chmod 755?
[19:22] <hedkandi> hello
[19:22] <cellofellow> jcrawford: no
[19:22] <hedkandi> golly I'm so unhappy can anyone help me?
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: wait, what are you chmodding?
[19:23] <hedkandi> if I enter sudo chown bob file it refuses because I have no user called bob!
[19:23] <jcrawford> cellofellow, /etc/init.d/mysql_forward
[19:23] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks... where is my network icon on karmic?  i dont see a thing to pick wireless networks?  i tried starting up nm-applet but its not working
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: 755 yes
[19:23] <jcrawford> thanks
[19:23] <hedkandi> how do I over-ride this idiot behaviour?
[19:23] <rantjuho> Hi..
[19:23] <jackturri> Hey there, I need to ignore Migration Assistant in the Ubuntu installer. I ran "ubiquity --no-migration-assistant" but in the final step, before installation confirmation, it shows and old partition with Ubuntu 9.04. I didn't want to detect this partition to use with Migration Assistant, this partition is corrupted and crashes my new installation on another partition. :/
[19:23] <Funzo> kossan: try previewing the screensaver and see if it comes on
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: make sure the /root/.ssh/id_rsa file is 400
[19:23] <IdleOne> hedkandi: how can it make bob owner if bob doesnt exist?
[19:23] <cellofellow> jcrawford: and owned by root.
[19:24] <cellofellow> gah, he left
[19:24] <kossan> Funzo: Already tried that and yes it does.
[19:24] <hedkandi> IdleOne, easily, the owner is maintained independent of the users database
[19:24] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus?
[19:24] <fission6> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting  does that mean i do not have access as a result of my ip not being whitelisted or that i am using the wrong user name?
[19:25] <hedkandi> IdleOne: I can have a string in a database called "bob" because it is three characters how hard it it to maintain three characters?
[19:25] <kruqnut2> dc/d
[19:25] <kruqnut2> anyways
[19:25] <c1h23r456i78910> how can I register with IRC, and access all the chat?
[19:25] <wrapster> cellofellow: ok decided which one to delete.. but when i try deleting it says unmount first
[19:25] <IdleOne> hedkandi: how does bob access file if he isn't a user?
[19:25] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  a file has to be owned by a user or group
[19:25] <cellofellow> c1h23r456i78910: /msg nickserv register apassword
[19:25] <literal> I'm connected to the internet via mobile broadband, and I want to share the connection over wifi. How do I do this? I tried picking "shared to other computers" in the ipv4 wifi settings, but nothing happens.
[19:25] <hedkandi> IdleOne, he doesn't.
[19:25] <kruqnut2> Im trying to install DMRAID in order to mount an ntfs softraid partition. I can't get online on linux so i am trying to download the packages to a flash drive, then install them off the flash
[19:25] <IdleOne> !register c1h23r456i78910
[19:26] <cellofellow> wrapster: then unmount it. You can do that from within gparted, just right click it.
[19:26] <c1h23r456i78910> cellowfellow : in terminal?
[19:26] <IdleOne> !register | c1h23r456i78910
[19:26] <hedkandi> IdleOne, not yet anyway
[19:26] <coachz> how do i get the Nvidia driver for my 7900 GS please ?
[19:26] <c1h23r456i78910> !register
[19:26] <coachz> i want to setup dual monitors
[19:26] <cellofellow> c1h23r456i78910: in the IRC client
[19:26] <kossan> Funzo: What is the screensaver a part of? is it gnome, x11 or what?
[19:26] <paranoid_ndroid> is there any way to print a file to a jpeg file in ubuntu?
[19:26] <hedkandi> IdleOne, so what if he's not listed in the users database?
[19:26] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:26] <IdleOne> hedkandi: then he is does not exist
[19:26] <wrapster> cellofellow: no the unmount option is not highlighed... i saw
[19:26] <hedkandi> IdleOne, I'm not an idiot nube who can't tell the difference between a user and a box of sardines
[19:26] <wrapster> cellofellow: i cannot click it.
[19:26] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  you have to create the user record first to assign ownership
[19:26] <cellofellow> wrapster: unmount everything in that drive, including swap.
[19:26] <IdleOne> hedkandi: I didn't say you were
[19:27] <kruqnut2> my problem is that when I try to install these files, I keep getting dependency broken errors etc before i am able to install all the dependencies for DMRAID, Im using the gutsy gibbon version, 7.10, am i downloading the wrong files? on packages.ubuntu.com there are no gutsy files, just dapper then the one after gutsy
[19:27] <hedkandi> IdleOne, my point is that if I am root, then I can assign ownership as I please
[19:27] <kruqnut2> what should i download to make this work?
[19:27] <hedkandi> My system is not going to break just because I have a file assigned to a non-existant user
[19:27] <wrapster> cellofellow: none have the option to unmount .opeb
[19:27] <wrapster> cellofellow: open
[19:27] <IdleOne> hedkandi: trying to understand the logic, if there is no user to access file then how can he own file? he does not exist
[19:27] <hedkandi> IdleOne, as I said, I'm not an idiot nube I know the logic
[19:28] <cellofellow> wrapster: hm
[19:28] <hedkandi> IdleOne, The more powerful logic is to ask whether it is feasible for the system to try to maintain
[19:28] <coachz> cellofellow,  can you help me out for a min
[19:28] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  you are spending more time telling everyone you are not a noob, than reading those that are trying to help ou
[19:28] <wrapster> if i try from the terminal it says /dev/sda5 not mounted.
[19:28] <hedkandi> IdleOne, an existant user for every file
[19:28] <jackturri> Hey there, I need to ignore Migration Assistant in the Ubuntu installer. I ran "ubiquity --no-migration-assistant" but in the final step, before installation confirmation, it shows and old partition with Ubuntu 9.04. I didn't want to detect this partition to use with Migration Assistant, this partition is corrupted and crashes my new installation on another partition. :/
[19:28] <wrapster> cellofellow: ive decided to delete sda5
[19:28] <IdleOne> hedkandi: well then if you know it, you don't seem to understand it. btw just because someone is a nube as you put it does not make them an idiot.
[19:28] <cellofellow> coachz: sure
[19:28] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:29] <bezimena> hallo benni bistu da
[19:29] <Funzo> kossan: I'm not 100% sure, look into the gnome-screensaver package and see, but there is an X function that should make your screen go black after a certain amount of time of inactivity regardless of your settings, so if this isnt happenning it means one of your apps is telling the system not to go into screensaver mode, is movie player open?
[19:29] <coachz> is this where i need to be to get nvidia driver ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:29] <kruqnut2> can anyone help me with my problem with ubuntu 7.10
[19:29] <alabd_> how to give gava path /path/java.bin to firefox
[19:29] <hedkandi> okay then many thanks for your help.
[19:29] <kruqnut2> is ubuntu 7.10 no longer supported at all by the ubuntu team?
[19:29] <k0d3g3ar> hedkandi:  in unix everything is a file, and everything needs an owner.  you can't have a file without an owner, and therefore you can't have a resource in unix without an owner.
[19:29] <wrapster> cellofellow: ok .. this is what it says.. please unmount any logical partition having a higer number than 5.
[19:29] <acuster> hey all, what is the name of the screenshot applet?
[19:30] <wrapster> cellofellow: but then again none have the option unmount clickable
[19:30] <coachz> i think i got it
[19:30] <kossan> Funzo: No, only irssi and firefox. But screensaver works the first time or so when i reboot the computer
[19:30] <Guest26162> How do I make pidgin flash or do something when I get a message?
[19:30] <cellofellow> wrapster: in terminal type "mount"
[19:30] <cellofellow> wrapster: then you can use "sudo umount"
[19:30] <Guest26162> or bounce around in the dock
[19:31] <cellofellow> maybe -f to force
[19:31] <kossan> Funzo: So something is destroying the gnome-screensaver probably
[19:31] <Funzo> try a complete removal and reinstall
[19:31] <wrapster> cellofellow: not working
[19:32] <paranoid_ndroid> imagemagick does the trick, thx
[19:32] <Funzo> kossan: xscreensaver is another important package you might want to try reinstalling
[19:32] <cellofellow> wrapster: what's it say?
[19:32] <lianimator> hi, I'm trying to build rhythmbox from source, but the package dependency errors keep coming up. is there a faster way to install all the dependencies?
[19:32] <Funzo> sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox
[19:32] <wrapster> cellofellow: umount2 :invalid arg ; umount :/dev/sda5 not mounted
[19:32] <cellofellow> Funzo: beat me too it
[19:33] <Funzo> figured I was racing someone haha
[19:33] <cellofellow> wrapster: but it shows as mounted in mount?
[19:33] <kruqnut2> can anyone help me with my problem with gutsy and packages?
[19:33] <inh> lsusb shows my mouse and such, when i unplug it it goes away, it works whe ni plug it back in, but it will randomly die, or start acting jerky
[19:33] <Funzo> kruqnut2: what does that mean?
[19:33] <wrapster> cellofellow: no it does not
[19:33] <cellofellow> wrapster: that is just bizarre
[19:34] <kruqnut2> funzo I need files for ubuntu 7.10(gutsy) to install DMraid
[19:34] <Jordan_U> kruqnut2: Gutsy is no longer supported ( and no longer recieving security updates )
[19:34] <wrapster> cellofellow: a bug?
[19:34] <kossan> Funzo: I'm now going to play the waiting game and see if it was gnome-screensaver that did it
[19:34] <kruqnut2> i found the gutsy packages now, so im trying to download libdevmapper-dev and the webpage says two or more packages specified (libdevmapper-dev gutsy)
[19:34] <kruqnut2> and i can't download them
[19:34] <kruqnut2> jordan so how do i get the packages i need to run DMraid?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> kruqnut2: Why not use hardy or karmic?
[19:34] <Funzo> kossan: also try reinstalling the xscreensaver package
[19:35] <Funzo> before you play the waiting game
[19:35] <PFA> i'm installing ubuntu and the partition resizer tool has been hanging at 0% for at least ten minutes. is this normal?
[19:35] <kruqnut2> mainly because gutsy is what i downloaded a couple years ago, i need to access my NTFS raid and i don't have a fast enough connection to download a new version
[19:36] <norbert__> ubermerc avi. got vent, ts and stuff. no noobs pls
[19:36] <Funzo> kruqnut2: do you have a link for the package?
[19:36] <kruqnut2> my problem is thata  virtual basic library file for windows is corrupted and I can't rpelace it in windows
[19:36] <kruqnut2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libdevmapper-dev
[19:36] <Jordan_U> kruqnut2: old-releases.ubuntu.com, but promise you will upgrade if you actually want to *use* that system
[19:36] <kruqnut2> so im trying to use another OS to access it
[19:36] <CountDown> Resume from suspend works before I login to my laptop, but not after.  I'm guessing some hardware driver isn't resuming correctly.  I'd like to figure out which hardware drivers are loaded before login and which are loaded after so I can compare the two lists and come up with a list of suspect drivers.  What's the best way of doing this?
[19:37] <Funzo> PFA: that's a little scary but I have found that app to be incredibly reliable from my experience so don't freak out yet, I would be very surrised if it didnt recover from that even if just to say it failed
[19:37] <Funzo> PFA: leave it for up to 45 minutes I would say before getting worried
[19:38] <CountDown> I suppose I could run an init script that dumps lsmod to a file.
[19:38] <kossan> Funzo: hmm, I don't got the "xscreensaver" onlt data and gl
[19:38] <Funzo> CountDown: /var/log/syslog
[19:39] <kruqnut2> jordan im at that website, are all the packages grouped into single archives?
[19:39] <Funzo> yeah that's what I mean sorry
[19:39] <Parsi> after loading desktop, when I move mouse or press a key, It hangs:( Ubuntu 9.10 DVD
[19:39] <kruqnut2> i nacigated to /ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386 and the files are just archives named packages
[19:39] <jcrawford> cellofellow, any idea why that would not work after the changes you just suggested?  I cannot connect to mysql using localhost 3306 and I should be able to if the tunnel command worked
[19:39] <Funzo> .deb files are archived and they install an entire program yes
[19:40] <kruqnut2> not what i meant exactly funzo
[19:40] <kruqnut2> the file im downloading si called packages.bz2
[19:40] <Parsi> after loading desktop, when I move mouse or press a key, It hangs:( Ubuntu 9.10 DVD
[19:41] <Funzo> okay sorry, I'm not sure
[19:41] <jcrawford> here is the output on the command line: http://paste2.org/p/525204
[19:41] <kruqnut2> ubuntu 7.10 shoudl open bz2 archives right out the box right?
[19:42] <Parsi> I cannot use ubuntu 9.10 :(
[19:42] <Parsi> it stop working after loading desktop
[19:43] <kermit> if i dont type for 40 seconds my screen gets really dim, how do i stop this?
[19:43] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:43] <manofsky> Hello I try to download this game http://freeonlinegames.com//games/potty-racers/potty-racers.swf from the site using wget but I get 0 in the file size any idea to download this game ?
[19:44] <noone> @Parsi: are you using Karmic?
[19:44] <Parsi> noone: hah? Im in windows now
[19:44] <Parsi> I cannot start ubuntu
[19:44] <noone> there is some problems with compiz fusion
[19:44] <Parsi> 9.10 does not work
[19:45] <noone> yes
[19:45] <hlfshell> I am having intermittent internet via an ethernet connection -  some times it works, some times it doesnt. i regularly reset it via ifconfig eth0 down / ifconfig eth0 up, but this aint doing crap. i've also done dhclient eth0
[19:45] <Parsi> noone: live dvd
[19:45] <noone> you should remove compiz
[19:45] <phisher1> oO
[19:45] <addisonj> Parsi, start with a gnome safe shell (jsut change your session) then disable compiz
[19:45] <noone> yes
[19:45] <phisher1> if you are having problems with compiz, you don't have to remove compiz.. just don't use it.
[19:45] <Parsi> addisonj: 9.04 works fine
[19:45] <phisher1> or fix it.
[19:45] <hlfshell> anyone have any idea how i can get internet regularly working on my machine
[19:45] <hlfshell> ?
[19:46] <addisonj> what error are you getting>
[19:46] <noone> i have tried to fix, but...
[19:46] <coachz> twinview ftw !
[19:46] <cellofellow> coachz: nice :)
[19:46] <o-o> hlfshell: home network or corporate?
[19:46] <Parsi> addisonj: after loading desktop, when is move mouse it hangs:(
[19:46] <coachz> 2   1920x1200 displays in sweet melony cantoloupe ubuntu colors
[19:46] <Parsi> i'm trying live cd, live cd does not work
[19:47] <noone> yes
[19:47] <hlfshell> home network o-o. ive also tested the connection on multiple other machines - they work fine. also, on htis particular machine, it worked as for 12 hours ago.
[19:47] <noone> the problem is compiz
[19:47] <vr_mex> Is it possible to add an information icon and a delete file icon to the tool bar of nautilus, so as to select a file and then click on the info icon and get its properties, or to select a file and click on the delete icon and have it deleted?
[19:47] <coachz> fwiw, the Ubuntu software center is sweet too
[19:48] <cellofellow> coachz: twinview works fine on my system but compiz does flicker when I use that large a screen. Normally doesn't bother me.
[19:48] <o-o> hlfshell: You have DHCP router on your modem right? What does dmesg say?
[19:48] <Parsi> guys, I cannot start ubuntu with LiveCD
[19:48] <coachz> flicker how
[19:48] <hlfshell> hold on ill pastebin dmesg
[19:48] <coachz> refresh rate ?
[19:48] <mcurran> Parsi:  Do you get an error message?  What happens?
[19:48] <noone> @Parsi: your desktop freeze after log on right?
[19:48] <cellofellow> coachz: oh, just sometimes things disappear which shouldn't for a millisecond or two.
[19:48] <hlfshell> http://pastebin.com/m4f9df9f7 o-o
[19:48] <coachz> ok
[19:49] <Parsi> mcurran: no error,everything freeze
[19:49] <Parsi> noone: yes
[19:49] <cellofellow> I think it's my cheap little video card which has 256MB shared memory.
[19:49] <mcurran> Parsi:  Do you want to run the live cd or just install?  If you're trying to install, use the text insaller instead
[19:50] <noone> @Parsi: when i tried livecd I've got the same problem with you
[19:50] <mcurran> It's probably compiz or the update manager freezing things, or maybe burn a new disc
[19:50] <Parsi> mcurran: I want to run live cd
[19:50] <Xserver> it looks like i am stuck with bind9 configuration
[19:50] <noone> i'm sure the problem is compiz
[19:50] <Parsi> noone: what you did?
[19:50] <kossan> Funzo: Nop. reinstalling didn't do anything unless I should try a reboot to
[19:51] <metropolis> Does anyone know of a way to have some persistent text / naming on each viewport in compiz ? I can "name" the workspaces (and get the workspace switcher to show this), but only when visual effects are set to "none"
[19:51] <noone> I installed to Harddrive and then i removed compiz
[19:51] <Xserver> i can resolve hostname on my DNS server using the server IP
[19:51] <Xserver> but when i use the DNS IP on my PC , i can't resolve any DNS
[19:52] <seanicus> wait, you can name workspaces, metropolis ?
[19:52] <Funzo> kossan: feel free to try, I'd recommend posting on the forum and see if someone can help
[19:52] <noone> when i reinstall compiz, the problem happened again
[19:52] <metropolis> seanicus: at least, I used to be able to
[19:52] <noone> note that I have disabled all the effect
[19:52] <Parsi> noone: oh! it's shit without effects
[19:53] <metropolis> I saw some chatter on the net that it's a function of using compiz, but maybe not. In any case, I just really really want to have a workspace per project, and then label them as such
[19:53] <metropolis> because sometimes I get lost with 9 workspaces
[19:53] <seanicus> I would like to know how to, metropolis .  Also, is it possible to have a theme or background for each workspace?
[19:53] <tsimpson> Parsi: the FloodBots are not human
[19:53] <o-o> hlfshell: nothing visible there.
[19:53] <Parsi> tsimpson: ok
[19:54] <Counterspell> Anyone getting serious Firefox performance issues after upgrading on 9.04?
[19:54] <Xserver> damn.. where does my named.conf.local file go everytime i make it ?
[19:54] <Parsi> noone: is there another desktop env.?
[19:54] <noone> there is some
[19:54] <coachz> wow, mapping to a windows share is SO easy
[19:54] <hlfshell> o-o, you mean nothing problematic visible or nothing about eth0 being viisble?
[19:54] <noone> KDE, xfce, etc
[19:54] <coachz> thanks UBUNTU !
[19:54] <metropolis> seanicus: I agree, i would love to have per-workspace wallpapers
[19:55] <o-o> hlfshell, nothing that would indicate a problem with the driver.
[19:55] <hlfshell> thanks anyway o-o
[19:55] <o-o> hlfshell, strage clocks though. what driver is this?
[19:55] <Xserver>  named[5460]: the working directory is not writable
[19:55] <Xserver> do i need to chmod the named directory ?
[19:55] <o-o> hlfshell, unused clock? Is this an embeded system?
[19:55] <noone> parsi: did you try kubuntu?
[19:56] <rick__> can someone help me troubleshoot banshee on karmic?  It starts up for a second on the task bar but then just closes out.
[19:56] <noone> it's KDE env, a nice one.
[19:56] <hlfshell> its an embedded system, yes.
[19:56] <hlfshell> its an embedded system, yes. o-o
[19:56] <Parsi> noone: no
[19:56] <erUSUL> rick__: any clue if you launch it freom a terminal ?
[19:57] <rick__> if i open terminal and type banshee-1 it just hangs and doesn't display anything
[19:57] <o-o> hlfshell, well thats a challenge in terms of system stability.
[19:57] <hlfshell> but what i dont get o-o  is that it either works or it doesnt, and its almost every other day
[19:57] <hlfshell> with no changes made
[19:58] <o-o> could take some doing to debug that and I usually get paid for stuff like that...
[19:58] <MkS1992> hello
[19:58] <country0129> Can someone walk me through configuring and setting up my DSL (USB connected) on my old Compaq computer
[19:58] <CountDown> Funzo: Thanks, I'll check out /var/log/syslog.
[19:59] <[zz]> so... many... users
[19:59] <[zz]> Okay, question time.
[19:59] <addisonj> country0129, you try googling it first?
[19:59] <country0129> Yes, I did, and drew zip.
[19:59] <erUSUL> !adsl | country0129
[19:59] <country0129> Tried what was out there and it didn't work.
[20:00] <addisonj> well the USB connection is probably going to make it more difficult but try that guide ubottu posted and see how it goes
[20:00] <[zz]> I'm running 9.10, and I inexplicably can't play .avi. I've tried several different players, and none of them have worked.
[20:00] <rick__> i had banshee running once with my ipod by doing a killall -9 nautilus in terminal, then connecting my ipod, then starting nautilus, and finally starting banshee.  it worked but then when restarting and just trying to open banshee without the ipod connected, it won't open anymore
[20:00] <[zz]> Does anyone know what could possibly be causing this and how I would fix it?
[20:00] <country0129> I'll go try it again.
[20:00] <noone> install gstreamer
[20:00] <rick__> [zz] i would reccomend vlc player
[20:00] <[zz]> rick__: doesn't work.
[20:01] <Parsi> noone: anything to replace Compiz?
[20:01] <davebs> I had some free time on my hands today so I setup dual WAN, does anyone know any better ways to load balance than using "nexthop"?
[20:01] <rick__> did you install gstreamer also like noone said?
[20:01] <noone> Parsi: maybe no, in my own opinion
[20:01] <Funzo> [zz] vlc player can play anything and doesnt share its codecs with the rest of the system like the gnome apps so it definitely wont fail even if you just have to install the correct plugins
[20:01] <[zz]> it appears to already be on there from aptitude's reaction to my attempt to install it
[20:02] <Parsi> noone: older version of compiz works fine
[20:02] <addisonj> zz, did you grab ubuntu restricted?
[20:02] <Parsi> can i install that?
[20:02] <Funzo> [zz] alt + f2 and run vlc if you can't find it in the menu
[20:02] <noone> parsi: you should try
[20:02] <[zz]> Funzo: I was referring to gstreamer
[20:02] <dc_361> Hi ebody
[20:03] <rick__> how do you run banshee from terminal?  just type in banshee?
[20:03] <dc_361> i have some trouble installing office 2007
[20:04] <dc_361> i have a message that says that i must log in with a different usser
[20:04] <andrew__> próba łączności
[20:04] <dc_361> it appears just as i open excel, word or any other office program
[20:04] <andrew__> ok.jest ktoś tam
[20:05] <fabio_> #
[20:05] <andrew__> czy ktoś pisze po polsku
[20:05] <noone> Parsi: I think it conflict with the hardware. Some of my friends installed karmic and it worked fine.
[20:05] <kostkon> !pl | andrew__
[20:05] <andrew__> ok
[20:05] <aegimius1> how can i get my ubuntu PC to control or communicate with my windows PC? i'm trying to use remote desktop viewer to see my windows PC, but it won't work. i keep trying to use my windows pc's ip address(subnet mask). no luck
[20:06] <aegimius1> windows 7
[20:06] <matteo_> Ciao a tutti. Ho bisogno di aiuto
[20:06] <matteo_> chi mi aiuta?
[20:06] <edoceo> Which package has the tools: /usr/share/openldap/migration/migrate_passwd.pl
[20:07] <matteo_> Hi, guys. I need help
[20:07] <alabd_> should package sun-java-jre be installed befire using those java plugins in ff ?
[20:07] <hydester> hi.  i used to use ssh -D to use firefox via socks proxy.  now it no longer works.  it doesn't work in chrome or firefox, so i think i can rule out the browser.  how do i find out why it stopped working?
[20:07] <erUSUL> !it | matteo_
[20:07] <erUSUL> !hi | matteo_
[20:08] <mintux> I have iso image a cd and I want to make 15 copies from it . are there any program (like clone in windows ) do a lot of copy and when writing of a cd finished  request next blank cd and start copy automatically ?
[20:08] <jcrawford> alabd_, well how will the JAVA plugins work if there is no JRE to run them?
[20:08] <edoceo> mintux: simple shell wrapper around wodim would work
[20:09] <edoceo> for i in $(seq 1 15) do; wodim -eject -sao dev=/dev/sr0 image.iso; done
[20:09] <jcrawford> the answer I would say is you probably should have the JRE installed before trying to run them, however I also believe that unless you opted out of it OpenJDK is installed by default with Ubuntu so they may work without Sun's JRE
[20:09] <ubuspire> does anyone here know how i can change the options network manager will pass on to dnsmasq on interfaces set to "shared"
[20:09] <mintux> edoceo: does it work ? did you test it ?
[20:09] <Jo> does anybody know here why #linux is not accescible?
[20:09] <edoceo> mintux: does what work? that snip I sent you or wodim?
[20:09] <edoceo> wodim works great
[20:09] <ubuspire> Jo: ##linux
[20:10] <edoceo> that script you'll have to fiddle with for your environment
[20:10] <mintux> no that shell script
[20:10] <edoceo> try it
[20:10] <jcrawford> that's something I was wondering.  I have a mac pro and I am installing Ubuntu on it but how will I eject my dvd drive?  There's no button on a mac pro as mac's have the eject keyboard key
[20:10] <erUSUL> Jo: maybe is only for registered users ?
[20:10] <frostburn> how does one configure vino to allow all connections without local permissions?
[20:10] <mintux> ok
[20:10] <ubuspire> jcrawford, linux has the "eject" command
[20:10] <frostburn> i.e. the dialog box
[20:11] <jcrawford> ubuntulog, what is that command?
[20:11] <Jo> erUSUL: no its for everyone
[20:11] <matteo_> Could someone help me, please?
[20:11] <ubuspire> Jo: try joining ##linux rather than #linux
[20:11] <erUSUL> !ask | matteo_
[20:11] <bilal> hay
[20:11] <wuffi600> got the solution at http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/
[20:11] <wuffi600> thanx to you.
[20:12] <bilal> i have grand pb de config asterisk
[20:12] <Jo> ubuspire: does'nt work, I get rederected to #overflow. What's that actually?
[20:12] <jcrawford> nice at work at-least it looks like the mac keyboard eject key actually ejects the drive :D
[20:12] <jcrawford> i'm all set then
[20:12] <ubuspire> Jo: if there are too many users in the chan then you end up in overflow. try in a few min
[20:12] <Jo> ok :)
[20:13] <bilal> i want to install en sony laptob
[20:13] <jcrawford> jo i just joined fine
[20:13] <jcrawford> maybe it is only for +r
[20:13] <jcrawford> heh
[20:13] <matteo_> Hi. When I start Compiz Mangaer, I have a black desktop and no icons.
[20:13] <bilal> asterisk help
[20:14] <ubuspire> jcrawford, correct. if you aren't +r then you also would end up in ##overflow
[20:14] <Jo> jcrawford: bizarre, still overflow
[20:14] <stratovarius> hi all
[20:14] <Jo> ubuspire; what is +r ?
[20:14] <jcrawford> Jo: register your nickname or identify to it
[20:14] <jcrawford> Jo: /msg nickserv help register
[20:14] <Jo> jcrawford: tx
[20:14] <jcrawford> Jo: /msg nickserv help identify
[20:14] <bilal> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[20:14] <stratovarius> im using kmess under ubuntu but characters in contact list are too small...may I get them bigger? thanks
[20:14] <bilal> i have pb with asterisk help
[20:14] <Deathvalley122> about time someone gets on my bug report ...
[20:15] <jcrawford> bilal, you have peanut butter?
[20:15] <jcrawford> haha
[20:15] <bilal> wath
[20:15] <alabd_> which one of ubuntu rep servers has best speed ?
[20:15] <jcrawford> alabd_, the one closest to you...
[20:15] <country0129> The Ubuntu help for setting up ADSL didn't work for me.  Can someone help me set up my computer to recognize my router, connected by a USB?
[20:16] <kbp> I've got a problem: when booting, Ubuntu is stuck at hdd routine checking. It's, like. freeze. I had to press ESC to skip before it entered checking, otherwise I cannot press ESC later when it's freeze. Any idea how to fix it? (e.g. permanent disable hdd check) ?
[20:16] <jcrawford> kbp, maybe you should let the check run, it may take a while
[20:16] <jcrawford> but until it runs you will get that everytime you boot
[20:16] <alabd_> jcrawford: do you mean bandwitch of all are the same ?
[20:17] <h4f> how do I reload uvcvideo ?
[20:17] <jcrawford> alabd_, a simple answer to your question is the one that is closest to you
[20:17] <jcrawford> if you try to download from a server 2000 mi away it will probably be slower than the one 50 mi away
[20:17] <jcrawford> it also depends on how hard that particular server is getting hit
[20:18] <kbp> jcrawford: yea I let it run for half an hr and it still stopped at 26%. Tried another time, same behavior
[20:18] <jcrawford> i'm using the US server and speeds are fine then again i am in the US
[20:18] <country0129> I need help setting up my ADSL router, connected thru USB port.
[20:18] <msp3k> Hi all
[20:18] <jcrawford> kbp, not sure sorry, i figured you just got sick of waiting like most people :D
[20:18] <wildc4rd> evening all
[20:19] <esac> i logged into my ubuntu server via ssh, and i got disconnected. now when i connect i get a different session. how do i connect to the preivous session which has my work ?
[20:19] <jerrcs> Hi guys. I have an install cd and it seems to be corrupt. Is there anyway I can restart the install and just load installer components to continue the rest of the install from the internet?
[20:19] <kbp> jcrawford: ok ty :D
[20:20] <mcurran> Is there any way to force mount a ntfs network drive that's not setup as shared through samba, like you would a ntfs partition?
[20:20] <rex_> ?
[20:20] <fabio_> irc://irc.toxic-power.net/toxic
[20:20] <country0129> Any networking GURU's on this evening?
[20:20] <edoceo> mcurran: please restate - that question does not make sense
[20:21] <msp3k> Hi gurus.  I did a bare-bones basic install from an ubuntu-9.10 server CD.  After install, I found that there is no "admin" group, and no "%admin" entry in /etc/sudoers.  Is there a package I'm missing?
[20:21] <alabd_> jcrawford: what does that "select best server" do in software sources ? just see which one is nearest
[20:21] <jerrcs> alabd_: best ping times, and highest dl speeds
[20:21] <ubuspire> alabd_, i thought it checked ping times
[20:22] <alabd_> ubuspire: jerrcs but now it says check ur connection !
[20:22] <mcurran> endoceo, If I connect to a network, I can use nautilus to view a remote windows drive (NTFS), but I cannot just double click and mount it, is there a command much like the force mount for this drive?
[20:22] <country0129> Help me set up my ADSL router, connected through USB?
[20:23] <biglinux> b
[20:23] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, is there any way to connect without usb? usb network adapters suck
[20:24] <mcurran> I can easily see and open shared folders on the NTFS drive, like printer, etc.  But you can't just mount C:  I'm wondering if I can somehow.
[20:24] <country0129> Nossir.  A LAN cable won't fit my adapter.
[20:24] <country0129> It was working fine with Windoze ME
[20:25] <biglinux> v
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, usb networking requires additional drivers/modules
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, that doesnt make sence that the lan cable wont fid
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> fit*
[20:25] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:25] <jcrawford> Sylphid|netbook, it's probably just a USB version
[20:25] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, is it to big or to small
[20:25] <jcrawford> i've seen those for ADSL before
[20:25] <country0129> Too small.
[20:25] <ubuspire> Sylphid|netbook, not unless its a modem (rj11) jack
[20:26] <bigvortex> I am having problems getting virtual hosts working.  localhost,   <site1>.localhost and <site2>.localhosts all go to the same place.
[20:26] <llutz> Sylphid|netbook: usbnet is shipped with all standard-kernel
[20:26] <jcrawford> it probably has a phone cable connection
[20:26] <biglinux> f
[20:26] <jerrcs> bigvortex: that's an apache problem, not an ubuntu problem?
[20:26] <bigvortex> But apache is different on Ubuntu
[20:26] <jerrcs> no it's not
[20:26] <country0129> Yes.  It's an old Compaq maching, Pentium III, with only a 10gig HD and 512 RAM
[20:27] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, sounds like you may not have a NIC
[20:27] <country0129> Used dial up when I first got it ages ago.
[20:27] <biglinux> Boboboooooooo
[20:27] <RobLikesBrunch> Can anyone recommend a good list of repositories for Karmic Koala?
[20:27] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, is your dsl connection using PPP?
[20:28] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:28] <country0129> I'm not sure.  Maybe that other protocal.
[20:28] <country0129> er, protocol.
[20:28] <jerrcs> this channel sucks :(
[20:28] <eugene_bondarenk> hi
[20:28] <bigvortex> I just set WAMP up on a windows box, there is no sites-available directory for the virtual sites.
[20:28] <llutz> country0129: plug-in the modem, look at "dmesg" after it
[20:28] <msp3k> Hi gurus.  I did a bare-bones basic install from an ubuntu-9.10 server CD.  After install, I found that there is no "admin" group, and no "%admin" entry in /etc/sudoers.  Is there a package I'm missing?
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> I have been trying to set passwordless SSH for several days already T_T
[20:29] <Sylphid|netbook> country0129, do you have a user name and password to connect to the internet? if so then you use PPP if not then you likely use DHCP
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> without any luck
[20:29] <alabd_> how to fix this ?
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> I went through all types of manuals
[20:29] <alabd_> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[20:29] <jerrcs> bigvortex: sounds like you set up apache incorrectly. I'm not going to explain this as there are several guides.
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> basically they are similar to this one
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> http://swik.net/Ubuntu/Only+Ubuntu/How+to+Create+Passwordless+SSH+Private%2FPublic+Key+Pair+on+Ubuntu/b5t6e
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> what I am doing wrong
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> it simply ask password
[20:29] <eugene_bondarenk> in the end
[20:30] <alabd_> how to remove <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 ip in it's memory
[20:30] <country0129> I'm connected via my laptop/wireless, 2 netbooks using Ubuntu/wireless are connected to it.  The desktop, using Windoze ME was connected to it before I install Ubuntu.
[20:30] <eugene_bondarenk> and passwordless part never happen
[20:30] <Leonard> I am very new to Linux (trying to become MS Free) while trying to load an old laptop with a linux OS, i inadvertently deleted the screen that comes up 'press del to enter cmos' screen. How can I fix this?
[20:30] <napsy> Hello. I have a bug where I can't move forward/backwardy when playing sounds(scrollbar is disabled in rhythmbox). Is there a fox for this?
[20:30] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:31] <virtus> Yatsuko: hi :)
[20:31] <Yatsuko> hi hi
[20:31] <eugene_bondarenk> does anyone have experience setting passwordless ssh?
[20:31] <Sylphid|netbook> msp3k, does sudo work for you?
[20:31] <inivex> i've done it
[20:31] <jerrcs> passwordless ssh? you mean using ssh keys?
[20:31] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah
[20:31] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: the link you pasted describes it perfect
[20:31] <roccity_> kraitos: you can try using wget in a terminal I think that has resume funtions
[20:32] <SaperR> Yo³
[20:32] <alabd_> before tunnel was used but now we dont want download via tunnel but it wants use it
[20:32] <alabd_> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[20:32] <SaperR> Hello
[20:32] <esac> im using putty. does anybody know how to connect to a specific pseudo terminal on an openssh server ?
[20:32] <country0129> It uses PPP from the router to the ISP, I think.
[20:32] <jerrcs> I have an install cd and it seems to be corrupt. Is there anyway I can restart the install and just load installer components to continue the rest of the install from the internet?
[20:32] <msp3k> Lemme find out...
[20:32] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: no PM please
[20:32] <eugene_bondarenk> ok
[20:32] <kraitos> roccity_, can you wall me through it?
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> I type ssh eugene@ip  and still get asked for password
[20:33] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: you followed step 3?
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> there are 2 steps 3 :)
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> and yes
[20:33] <eugene_bondarenk> I left passphrase empty
[20:34] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: pub key must be added to authorized-keys at eugene@remote-ip
[20:34] <llutz> _keys
[20:34] <kraitos> i started downloading nexuiz on the terminal and i was trying to stop it and instead i ended up closing the terminal, how do i stop the download now?
[20:34] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah, I renamed it, copied to remote host and made sure it is 600
[20:34] <ringo999> running 9.10 on macbook pro, indicator-applet running suspend or hibernate results in screensaver instead of s2ram/s2disk. Any idea? What config files do i have to look into?
[20:34] <ckoning> hi there
[20:34] <inivex> kraitos: the download probably stopped when you killed the terminal session
[20:35] <biglinux> g
[20:35] <roccity_> kraitos: what you can do is get the link for the download like http;//www.whatever, and in a terminal type wget <space> and that link
[20:35] <eugene_bondarenk> I went through manuals that suggest changing permissions
[20:35] <eugene_bondarenk> and those that involve looking in ssh config file
[20:35] <eugene_bondarenk> everything seems fine
[20:35] <kraitos> inivex, it won't let me download anything else
[20:36] <inivex> i'm not sure what you mean?
[20:36] <mustafa> hello anyone help me????
[20:36] <eugene_bondarenk> is there any special command I need executed after copying pub to autorized_keys
[20:37] <Vesayth> Hello all. I'm having trouble resolving hostnames on my home network when connecting to it via a VPN. My home server is running Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit and client is Windows Vista 32-bit. I can ping the hostnames just fine, but when I try to use "net view \\hostname" I get System error 5. Access is denied. One thing to note is that the windows PC connects to a domain rather than a workgroup. Anyone have any ideas?
[20:37] <llutz> eugene_bondarenk: no
[20:37] <inivex> eugene_bondarenk: you're copying pub from the client to the authorized of the host, right?
[20:37] <kraitos> inivex, i'm on the software center and i'm trying to download unetbootin and it says waiting for other software manager to quit. can you help?
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah
[20:37] <Vesayth> The VPN I'm using is OpenVPN
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> pub gets generate on local compa
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> comp
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> and then transfered to authorized
[20:37] <Warp4> Vesayth are you able to connect to the server locally (not over vpn)?
[20:37] <eugene_bondarenk> to my server
[20:37] <tehloki> Hi, uh, i just upgraded to 9.10 and on boot i get "gave up waiting for root"
[20:37] <powertool08> eugene_bondarenk: You can try adding the switch '-v' or -'vv' -'vvv' to get more verbose output. It will tell you which step of the login is failing.
[20:37] <Vesayth> Warp4: yes
[20:38] <tehloki> then when i ls /dev /dev/sda1 isn't there
[20:38] <eugene_bondarenk> oh, great idea
[20:38] <Vesayth> warp4: and I can connect with IP address over the vpn
[20:38] <eugene_bondarenk> one moment
[20:38] <tehloki> what happened to my filesystem?
[20:38] <Vesayth> warp4: just not with the hostnames
[20:38] <kraitos> i'm on the software center and i'm trying to download unetbootin and it says waiting for other software manager to quit. can you help?
[20:38] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I set a default output in alsamixer? Otherwise I have to use alsamixer -c to select my card to output to headphones.
[20:39] <country0129> Tried reboot, Kraitos?  Start all over again?
[20:39] <msp3k> Ah, nevermind, I figured it out.  The "admin" group and the "%admin" sudoers entry is generated by the user-setup udeb installer package.  Since I didn't create a user account, only a root account, the user-setup scripts were never run by the installer.
[20:39] <guntbert> eugene_bondarenk: look into /etc/ssh/sshd_config if RSAAuthentcation is set to "yes"
[20:39] <eugene_bondarenk> one moment, will do
[20:39] <tehloki> has anybody else had this root filesystem disappearing issue on upgrading?
[20:39] <eugene_bondarenk> by the way I generated dsa key
[20:40] <eugene_bondarenk> is taht fine
[20:40] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I set a default output in alsamixer? Otherwise I have to use alsamixer -c to select my card to output to headphones.
[20:40] <biglinux> g
[20:40] <inivex> kraitos: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install unetbootin"
[20:40] <country0129> Is there a patient network guru that can help me set up my ADSL router, connected to my desktop via USB port?
[20:40] <biglinux> oo
[20:40] <biglinux> tt
[20:40] <powertool08> guntbert: I have RSAAuthentication set to no and mine works, I have PubKeyAuthentication set to yes
[20:40] <biglinux> t
[20:40] <gnufreex_> guys, is there any other Archlinux suport chanell. there is no suport on #archlinux, just smalltalks
[20:41] <powertool08> eugene_bondarenk: Yes, dsa is fine
[20:41] <guntbert> powertool08: ok, I wasn't sure, I have both set to yes
[20:41] <zsolt> hi there
[20:41] <eugene_bondarenk> yeah, on both comps it is set to yes
[20:42] <biglinux1> d
[20:42] <eugene_bondarenk> ok, let me try to understand what -vvv is saying
[20:42] <Zane2> i installed win7, the ubuntu. where is the grub file to edit the boot os names and defualt time
[20:42] <triptec> I'd like a tool to grab cvs repos without hassle..?
[20:42] <eugene_bondarenk> it's sort of hard :)
[20:42] <biglinux> h
[20:42] <inivex> kraitos: if you try to install unetbootin via the command line, it will either work, or throw an error that will be of more use
[20:42] <guntbert> !root | msp3k
[20:42] <RobLikesBrunch> How do I set a default output in alsamixer? Otherwise I have to use alsamixer -c to select my card to output to headphones.
[20:42] <tehloki> Zane2: search for menu.lst
[20:42] <biglinux1> amor
[20:42] <biglinux> te amo
[20:42] <zsolt> my problem is that,when i call somebody with amsn,they hear my voice,me just for a second,than silence
[20:43] <mphill_> zsolt: sounds like a firewall issue
[20:43] <Zane2> whould it be grldr?
[20:43] <zsolt> howewer I can see the line of the incoming voice.what would be wrong?
[20:43] <SwedeMike> zsolt: does skype work for you? I had to fiddle with mute etc in pavucontrol to get voice in skype to work
[20:43] <zsolt> with skype yes
[20:44] <zsolt> i tried without firewall
[20:44] <Travis-42> How do I delete all print jobs?
[20:44] <llutz> Travis-42: lprm
[20:44] <zsolt> maybe something is wrong with alsa
[20:45] <country0129> Help me set up ADSL, connected through router by USB?
[20:45] <inivex> zsolt: something wrong with alsa? UNPOSSIBLE!
[20:45] <llutz> country0129: plug-in the modem, look at "dmesg" after it for messages about new devices. use pppoeconf after it to configure your access
[20:46] <tehloki> why are quit/joins not hidden in this channel? it's really noisy.
[20:46] <mizerydearia> Booting ubuntu, I see "* Stopping NTP server ntpd" and then failed, and then "* Starting NTP server ntpd" and it has been 4+ minutes at this point.  Is there a way to configure a shorter timeout and how can I diagnose why stopping failed?
[20:46] <country0129> dmesg didn't work.  pppoeconfig wasn't recognized as a valid command.
[20:46] <PFA> tehloki, you can hide them yourself in most IRC clients
[20:46] <BlouBlou> tehbaut: because this funtion in from your irc-client, and not from ircd
[20:47] <RobLikesBrunch> When I do alsactl store, I get this error: alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[20:47] <RobLikesBrunch> Ideas?
[20:47] <blip-> hi,  I want 9.10 64-bit.... must I download the server edition or is there a 64-bit ubuntu for desktops ?
[20:47] <llutz> !dontwork | country0129
[20:47] <alabd_> W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:8080 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[20:47] <tehbaut> hey, how do I watch netflix vids on ubuntu?
[20:47] <eugene_bondarenk> I really can't get enything in the output
[20:47] <alabd_> before tunnel was used but now we dont want download via tunnel but it wants use it
[20:47] <eugene_bondarenk> would you mind if I attach it somewhere for you
[20:48] <guntbert> blip-: there is a 64bit Desktop
[20:48] <llutz> !paste | eugene_bondarenk
[20:48] <zsolt> it is a bit tricky with the sndcard
[20:48] <mizerydearia> Aha.  Starting NTP server ntpd is hanging forever because....  there was no Internet connection.  Manually fixing it at another terminal, the system is still hanging and not booting fully.  How can I make the system continue booting without restarting?
[20:48] <blip-> guntbert, it's not mentioned in the main page
[20:48] <Travis-42> llutz:I can't figure out how to make it cancel all of the print jobs... I have a print queue of > 50 thanks to an adobe reader bug
[20:48] <zsolt> pulse audi,jack,alsa,oss which option is the best
[20:49] <zsolt> ?
[20:49] <tehloki> okay so i'll try and state my problem more concisely: after upgrading to 9.10, on restart, /dev/sda1 (my root filesystem) is not visible. it doesn't show up in /dev and I can't boot into ubuntu at all. Is this a common problem and if so how did other people solve it?
[20:49] <eugene_bondarenk> ok let me try :)
[20:49] <llutz> Travis-42: "man lprm" "man lpq"
[20:49] <eugene_bondarenk> sorry ahead for a long post with output
[20:49] <legend2440> blip-: click on   Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows
[20:49] <llutz> Travis-42: or try cups-frontend in browser "localhost:631" jobs
[20:50] <inivex> tehloki, the computer boots into linux?
[20:50] <guntbert> blip-: Alternative download options.... in the first part
[20:50] <Travis-42> llutz: lprm seems to be operating ok, but it doesnt remove antyhing from the queue, the cups frontend requires me to click cancel and then "back" 50 times
[20:50] <RobLikesBrunch> When I do alsactl store, I get this error: alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[20:50] <zsolt> i can see the line of the incoming voice,but without any sound
[20:50] <eugene_bondarenk> ok, here it goes
[20:50] <eugene_bondarenk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/323735/
[20:50] <tehloki> inivex: no, after selecting linux in grub, it begins to load and then stops at "waiting for root" then says "gave up waiting for root" and dumps me into a minimal shell
[20:51] <tehloki> in menu.lst root=/dev/sda1
[20:51] <eugene_bondarenk> by the way a great way to paste text :)
[20:51] <tehloki> which is where my filesystem should be, still
[20:51] <Travis-42> llutz: ah I found the setting on the frontend, thanks
[20:51] <aperson> My filesystem is messing up!  I've (twice today) have had programs close and running anything from the terminal will give and input/output error!
[20:52] <aperson> this is not the hdd
[20:52] <inivex> tehloki, try booting with a liveCD to make sure the fs is still there, and or where on the disk it is...
[20:53] <RobLikesBrunch> When I do alsactl store, I get this error: alsactl: get_control:249: Cannot read control '2,0,0,Mic Capture Volume,0': Invalid argument
[20:53] <zsolt> what is the audio sink means?oss with alsa?
[20:54] <jimtuv> I have a quick question about Tracker
[20:54] <vlad29> can somebody help me with an backup error?
[20:54] <Amigadude> firefox doesn't like my start page... won't save it... is there a save prefs button somewhere I'm missing?
[20:54] <tehloki> inivex: i'm downloading the livecd image now, i was just wondering if this was a common problem with a known solution
[20:54] <tehloki> but i guess it isn't T_T
[20:55] <tehloki> i don't look forward to getting my files and then starting over
[20:55] <eugene_bondarenk> if you can understand that output, please give me at least a hint of what is wrong. because I don't even know in what direction to google now
[20:55] <inivex> tehloki, i've never heard of an upgrade blowing away a file system
[20:55] <biglinux> f
[20:55] <tehloki>  well, i doubt it's been blown away but it can't find it
[20:55] <inivex> tehloki, but when i upgraded to karmic, it broke my sound, and now i can't keep compiz running...
[20:56] <biglinux1> cante aquela
[20:56] <biglinux> espere
[20:56] <jimtuv> Amigaudude you can find the place to set firefox homepage in edit>preferences
[20:56] <Milligan> I have windows installed to a second harddrive, sdc . What would the adress to this disk be in grub to be able to chose it as boot medium ?
[20:56] <biglinux>  123 4 5000
[20:57] <geev> help i cant download new update check error on my link http://paste.ubuntu.com/323745/
[20:57] <biglinux1> a ou b
[20:57] <guntbert> biglinux: no testing here
[20:57] <Zane2> menu.lst isnt there
[20:57] <jimtuv> Does anyone know how to bring up Trackers preferences it's not in the system tray and is eating up to much processor time
[20:57] <n8tuser> Milligan -> try sudo fdisk -l   to give you the list of mountable partitions
[20:58] <Milligan> n8tuser, the disk only has one partition, and it's bootable.
[20:58] <geev> help i cant download new update check error on my link http://paste.ubuntu.com/323745/
[20:58] <PFA> i just installed Karmic on my dell inspiron 1501 laptop and it keeps freezing while the Caps Lock and Num Lock lights flash. does anyone know what this is?
[20:59] <Lostinspace_46> geev Have you done as line 54 suggests??
[20:59] <ringo999>  /quit
[20:59] <zsolt> how can I fugere out what's wrong with the incoming calling?
[20:59] <Amigadude> jimtuv: I've been doing that... then closed the the prefs... reopened it's still there but when I close firefox & restart it's back to default
[21:00] <guntbert> geev: instead of repeating every few minutes, take your time to tell us your problem *here* - don't expect everyone to follow a link and read a pastebin
[21:00] <boblesax31> R
[21:01] <Lostinspace_46> geev Have you done as line 54 suggests??
[21:01] <boblesax31> BONSOIR
[21:01] <mizerydearia> Unbutu boot sequence is hanging at http://pastebin.com/d7231c052  - How can I skip this and continue boot sequence?
[21:01] <francispereira> is there a way i can make calls using my modem connected to a phone line and use the pc  mic and speaker to talk and listen in ?
[21:01] <mizerydearia> ctrl+c doesn't help
[21:01] <mizerydearia> nor ctrl+z
[21:01] <Amigadude> jimtuv: just changed it on the about:config page still the same...  reverts back to chrome://ubufox/content/startpage.html
[21:01] <zsolt> I tried without firewall,the outgoing call is excellent,but the incoming calling disapears,I know that there is an incoming calling
[21:02] <chowder> how do you change the icon for the menu? It normally has an Ubuntu logo but I've noticed that with Gnome on other distributions people seem to have different logos.
[21:02] <geev> Lostinspace_46: here is the message http://paste.ubuntu.com/323752/ again
[21:02] <jimtuv> did this just start happening? did you do an install of a addon ?
[21:03] <tehbaut> so how do I watch netflix vids on ubuntu?
[21:03] <Lostinspace_46> geev msg me
[21:03] <Warp4> tehbaut i dont think you can
[21:04] <tehbaut> arg
[21:04] <Warp4> since netflix vids require ms silverlight
[21:04] <eugene_bondarenk> I'll try to post this problem on forum then
[21:04] <Laur_> Salut
[21:04] <eugene_bondarenk> that's sad 'cause this thing is the last thing why I can't leave windows
[21:05] <Laur_> hy
[21:05] <eugene_bondarenk> 'cause working with SVN will become full of pain
[21:05] <eugene_bondarenk> without passowrdless ssh
[21:05] <draginx> How do I install a 32-bit package ona  64-bit machine?
[21:05] <draginx> i forget the command, dpkg --force-architecture <file> ?
[21:06] <Lostinspace_46> tehbaut, Netflix says you can't and actually I don't think you can on Mac either
[21:06] <Laur_> i installed ubuntu with windows 7 and when i slect the ubuntu os he enter in cosole mode and i have this "sh:grub>" what should i type to enter in desktop mode? please help
[21:06] <songer> hello people
[21:06] <chowder> tehbaut: netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight on their site. So you can't until someone implements silverlight on Linux.
[21:06] <AJH101> Hi there - I have installed Wubi and it ran fine for a week but now it will not boot!
[21:06] <tehbaut> chowder: I thought there was a silverlight port on linux
[21:06] <draginx> chowder, isnt there na open source version of silverlight?
[21:07] <tehbaut> yeah, moon something?
[21:07] <chowder> yes, its called Moonlight but its nowhere near being complete....
[21:07] <tehbaut> hmmm
[21:07] <Jamed> chowder, tehbaut: moonlight
[21:07] <tehbaut> yep, hmmm, so has anyone actually attempted to run netflix with moonlight?
[21:07] <chowder> Jamed: I kind of just typed that....
[21:08] <Lostinspace_46> tehbaut, I take it you don't have X-Box..or blue-ray DVD?
[21:08] <Jamed> chowder: i was typing when you said that :)
[21:08] <tehbaut> Lostinspace_46: nope, just an HTPC I built
[21:08] <chowder> tehbaut: google it up
[21:08] <AJH101> Hi there - I have installed Wubi and it ran fine for a week but now it will not boot! The error message seems to indicate that something has unmounted?
[21:08] <Laur_> command for grub to enter in desktop mode ?
[21:08] <Lostinspace_46> tehbaut, I am in the same boat :(
[21:09] <kermit> if i dont type for 40 seconds my screen gets really dim, how do i stop this?
[21:09] <PFA> didn't there used to be a way to merge all the GNOME menu items into one menu under a single icon, a la the windows start menu, thereby saving tons of panel space?
[21:09] <songer> I need your help I want to install ubuntu 9.10, I have 2 hard disk 1, 160 gb with windows and other of 40 gb , I want to install ubuntu in he 40 gb but I can't selet it
[21:09] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks... where is my network icon on karmic?  i dont see a thing to pick wireless networks?  i tried starting up nm-applet but its not working
[21:10] <spark_irv> arooni-mobile: is your wireless device enabled?
[21:10] <arooni-mobile___> spark_irv, yes i'm talking to you over a wireless connection now
[21:12] <spark_irv> arooni: "nm-applet --sm-disable" is the command that's presently running for my applet. do you see it in your process list?
[21:12] <geev> Please help i get this error when i run update manager E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory
[21:12] <Lostinspace_46> songer, Do you mean that the HDD doesn't show up during install, or it'sthere and you just can't select it
[21:13] <chowder> geev: did you use sudo?
[21:13] <geev> chowder: yes i did
[21:13] <Mylesmadness> Is there a way to put ubuntu shutdown menu in the main menu thing
[21:13] <trism> PFA: on karmic you could add the main menu applet to the panel, which does that...there is also the gnome-main-menu package which uses the slab menu, although I couldn't get this working on karmic (but it works fine on jaunty, mostly because it doesn't seem to automatically add it to the add to panel menu)
[21:14] <chea> so many great tips in this channel :)
[21:14] <PFA> trism, what's the "slab menu"?
[21:14] <PFA> i haven't used ubuntu in a few years -- just starting up again
[21:14] <ryanCH> lol, there is music coming from my linux machine, but i don't see the program that could be playing this??
[21:14] <hfsdo> is there anyone here who can help me reinstalling grub? (the way on the ubuntu wiki doesn't really work)
[21:14] <rsk> ryanCH maybe firefox? some embedded video
[21:14] <chea> ryanCH: try killing sound driver
[21:14] <chea> :P
[21:14] <ryanCH> ehe
[21:14] <Lostinspace_46> geev You may have to take ownership of the file and 777 it...I have had to do that with some files
[21:15] <treyjedi> Hey everyone, new to Ubuntu, have everything working except for my VPN.  We connect to a Fortigate 300 box.  I was wondering the best way to set this up would be?
[21:15] <trism> PFA: it is kind of like the windows start menu, it has recently used applications and a search bar, along with normal menus
[21:15] <geev> Lostinspace_46: how do i do that
[21:16] <Lostinspace_46> geev msg me
[21:16] <PFA> trism, thanks
[21:16] <songer> just appears of hdd 160 but no of hdd, lostinspace_46
[21:16] <songer> hdd 40
[21:17] <tehloki> okay now i'm on a livecd and i can view my filesystem and also a new partition at /sda1 that didn't exist before, but i can't access my files because i don't have permissions
[21:17] <tehloki> is there a way i can authenticate myself as.. myself?
[21:17] <tehloki> from the liveCD?
[21:17] <grawity> tehloki: Not really - the LiveCD is a completely separate OS.
[21:18] <draginx> Anyone here have experience using amazon's mp3 downloader on 64 bit?
[21:18] <Laur_> command to enter in desktop mode for grub ? i have sh:grub> what should i type... ?
[21:18] <grawity> tehloki: Use 'sudo -s' to get root privileges
[21:18] <cankoy> Laur_: used Wubi?
[21:19] <Laur_> yah
[21:19] <Laur_> i installed win7 after that installed ubuntu 9.10
[21:19] <tehloki> bahaha i sudo chmod -R 777'd it
[21:19] <tehloki> and that worked for some reason
[21:19] <Laur_> whe i select ubuntu for OS to run... he take me in grub console..
[21:19] <mizerydearia> I am running gnome desktop environment and disabled gnome's remote desktop (system -> preferences -> remote desktop) and installed tightvncserver, however, I am not sure how to configure it so I can connect.  Any ideas?
[21:19] <tehloki> SHOULDN'T HAVE
[21:19] <tehloki> but did
[21:20] <Laur_> cankoy... next step is ? :D
[21:20] <cankoy> Laur_: wubi is peculiar, it uses a different grub (grub4dos)
[21:20] <cankoy> !wubi > Laur_
[21:21] <songer> lostinspace_46, if I install ubuntu  9.04 i can select between my to hdd
[21:21] <songer> 2 hdd
[21:21] <mizerydearia> How can I display list of files installed from a package?
[21:22] <Lostinspace_46> songer, Hmm you should with 9.10 but try 9.04..did you check sum your d/l and the burned CD?
[21:22] <songer> but If i install 9.10 I can install it just in my hdd of 160
[21:22] <guntbert> mizerydearia: dpkg -L <package>
[21:22] <mmlj4> can I change my apt sources to ubuntu and convert a debian box? or am I inviting a spectacular FAIL?
[21:22] <mizerydearia> guntbert, thanks
[21:22] <guntbert> mizerydearia: you're welcome :-)
[21:22] <fokuslee> hi i got some time to kill can anyone suggest some good karmic koala guides? like easy reading and learn some stuff, pretty new to linux
[21:23] <Lostinspace_46> songer, You could, but using 2 HHH's is better
[21:23] <ScarEye_> hello everyone, does anyone know if pssh for ubuntu is broken?
[21:23] <fokuslee> also is there real performance gain by compiling a custom kernel?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[21:24] <fokuslee> sebsebseb, hey thanks for the book looks perfect
[21:25] <ScarEye_> or does anyone know of a good parallel ssh/scp program that works with ubuntu?
[21:25] <mizerydearia> How can I determine if a vnc server/daemon that's running on a system is tightvnc and not another implementation?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: np
[21:25] <Scarra3> Afternoon
[21:26] <sebsebseb> !new |  fokuslee
[21:26] <songer> lostinspace_46, ok. already have install it ubuntu 9.04 in hdd of 40 gb and windows in hdd of 160, but i wabt toinstall ubuntu 9.10 but I can't install it in my hdd of 40 just I can in my hdd of 160 becose just showme my hdd of 160,
[21:27] <Scarra3> Im having trouble on deciding what Linux distro I should go with
[21:27] <sebsebseb> songer: use 9.04 then  whilst waiting for 10.04
[21:27] <mcurran> Scarra3 - Linux Mint 8 Helena (definately)
[21:27] <savetheWorld> Hey - has anyone heard where at dell.com you go to order the Ubuntu based version of the Inspiron Zino HD Desktop? ( Special right now at $229.) i want to order the ubuntu model -before- the price goes up!
[21:27] <Lostinspace_46> songer, try running g-parted and see if it sees both HHH's
[21:27] <Jamed> Scarra3: just try some
[21:27] <Scarra3> Ow Linux Mint 8 is finally released
[21:28] <mcurran> RC1
[21:28] <XQbit> Hello people, my friend has a problem with his WiFi, he has a HP DV2000 and the WiFi just doesn't work, it's LED shows yellow instead of blue which is the usual color when the WiFi is working.
[21:28] <Scarra3> Well Ive tried Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Debian, Slackware and FreeBSD
[21:28] <savetheWorld> Your "friend" eh? OK we try to help. (wink ink)
[21:28] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: try Mandriva 2010
[21:28] <mcurran> backtrack is fun
[21:28] <Scarra3> I hurd Mandriva was really filled with useless stuff
[21:28] <sebsebseb> mcurran: that's a security and such CD, not a desktop OS
[21:29] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: no it's not
[21:29] <mcurran> openSuse looks O.K. but I never really used it uch
[21:29] <guntbert> !ot
[21:29] <mcurran> can be
[21:29] <Lostinspace_46> XQbit, Did he make sure his card is turned on?
[21:29] <mcurran> Just run ubiquity
[21:29] <songer> how can i run  g-parted
[21:30] <XQbit> Err, it is just on when starting, we have no idea how to additionally turn it on
[21:30] <ScarEye_> can ou guys see me ?  My text?
[21:30] <Lostinspace_46> songer, You should be able to just type g-parted in the terminal
[21:30] <guntbert> ScarEye_: yes
[21:30] <Jamed> songer: alt+f2 -> gparted <enter> if it is installed
[21:30] <ScarEye_> guntbert: thanks
[21:31] <guntbert> ScarEye_:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:31] <Lostinspace_46> Jamed, Thanks I forgot about that..lol
[21:31] <iceroot_> Jamed: gksudo gparted
[21:31] <Jamed> iceroot_: right, i forgot
[21:32] <Lostinspace_46> Well, at least I'm not the only one..lol
[21:32] <songer> if I type in terminal g- parted it says command not found
[21:32] <iceroot_> songer: sudo apt-get install gparted && gksudo gparted
[21:32] <Jamed> songer: not g- parted just gparted
[21:33] <cwillu_at_work> !screencast
[21:33] <Lostinspace_46> songerThats correct..my bad on the hyphen
[21:33] <benc2> I'm trying to run an erlang app with init.d script and someone told me I need to set the HOME enviorement varaible to make it work
[21:33] <benc2> what does it means?
[21:33] <didi> Does someone know how to drop the icon of empathy from the notification area?
[21:34] <iceroot_> benc2: what is output of echo $HOME
[21:34] <infidel2> is there a way to split a screen in half in gnome, to fake dual-monitors on a laptop?
[21:34] <mcurran> infidel2 - Do you have a key for it?
[21:35] <benc2> iceroot_: iniside or outside of the init.d script?
[21:35] <benc2> iceroot_: because my script runs fine in the shell but not in the init.d script
[21:35] <lianimator> Hi, I compiled rhythmbox from source (with the fix to notify bug)  but I don't have the notify anymore.
[21:35] <iceroot_> benc2: and what is the error of the script?
[21:35] <infidel2> mcurran ?
[21:36] <benc2> iceroot_: I see examples like 'export HOME=/root' in other scripts and I don't understand what that means
[21:36] <mcurran> what's a command to compile an app from source
[21:36] <mcurran> make, make install, etc..
[21:36] <zaida> .it
[21:36] <lianimator> mcurran: ./configure
[21:36] <benc2> iceroot_: I've tried using upstart job and I don't get any error
[21:36] <benc2> iceroot_: when I check the status I get working/stopped
[21:36] <mcurran> can you go any simpler than that though
[21:36] <guntbert> benc2: I wouldn't assume there is $HOME even set in an init script
[21:36] <iceroot_> benc2: export HOME=~/
[21:36] <Jamed> mcurran: generally you should read INSTALL or README or something like that
[21:37] <benc2> iceroot_: can you explaine what it does?
[21:37] <Jamed> mcurran: its not always make make install ...
[21:37] <songer> lostintime_46, but why  when I intall ubuntu 9.04 I can see my 2 hdd and select In which one i want to install my ubuntu, and when i install ubuntu 9.10 just I can install in 1 hdd because the other one it dosn't show me
[21:37] <iceroot_> benc2: its exporting the var HOME with the path of the current home
[21:37] <epinky> benc2: open a terminal and type "echo $HOME" then figure out to fit your needs
[21:37] <benc2> guntbert: do I need to set it?
[21:37] <mcurran> yes, but is there a way to do it like CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 fakeroot debian/rules ...  etc.
[21:37] <iceroot_> benc2: ~/ is the command /alias for the home-directory of the current user
[21:38] <benc2>  iceroot_: thanks, I'll try that
[21:38] <iceroot_> benc2: if you type cd ~/ in the shell you will go into your home-directory
[21:38] <benc2> epinky: thanks
[21:38] <benc2> iceroot_: aren't the init.d/upstart scripts run as root or sometime a user without home?
[21:39] <veedeejay> italiani?
[21:39] <mcurran> So ubuntu supports wimax now?
[21:39] <epinky> !it | veedeejay
[21:39] <guntbert> benc2: please follow the other's suggestions - they are much more clear
[21:39] <iceroot_> benc2: hm, normally as root
[21:39] <veedeejay> ok grazie
[21:40] <mcurran> I was wondering if there was a way to just compile and install from source, when there is no make or configure files
[21:40] <iceroot_> mcurran: depeding on the source of course
[21:40] <iceroot_> mcurran: look at readme or install
[21:40] <gabriel_> you could use the install command
[21:41] <benc2> guntbert which one is clear?
[21:41] <mcurran> So you can't just compile source like you can the linux kernel then...
[21:41] <epinky> mcurran: you can use "gcc" and "install" commands
[21:42] <iceroot_> mcurran: again, look at the readme
[21:43] <guntbert> benc2: sorry, I never fiddled much with init scripts  - so that was only a sideline remark from me (about $HOME)
[21:43] <Mike_lifeguard> Hi, how can I stop pam_motd in libpam-modules from changing my /etc/motd?
[21:43] <mcurran> iceroot, I'm talking hypothetically, that's why i'm not interested in the developers notes, install file, etc.  I was thinking maybe just using build-essential.
[21:43] <lukasz_> zxc
[21:43] <iceroot_> mcurran: depending on the source
[21:43] <benc2> guntbert: I still don't understand what you mean
[21:43] <iceroot_> mcurran: some needs to be configured
[21:43] <iceroot_> mcurran: some can run with gcc and so on
[21:44] <mcurran> thanks guys, this install package looks pretty useful.
[21:45] <guntbert> benc2: please don't bother - I'm a bit too tired to have a longer line of thinking - sorry to distract you
[21:46] <benc2> iceroot_: I think your suggestion works. When I type 'env - erl' gives an error but 'env - HOME="/home/user" erl' works
[21:46] <benc2>  iceroot_: I still need to understand what 'env -' does and why do I need this HOME variable.
[21:46] <benc2>  iceroot_: thanks
[21:46] <x_or> I'm trying to burn an ISO to a SD card.  I cannot figure out the command line command to use.  I am trying to install from a linux version (Xandros on EEE) which I don't think has graphical burning utilities.  Can anyone suggest what I should do?  I have dd and cdrecord...
[21:47] <iceroot_> benc2: man env
[21:47] <cbeske> dd if=youriso of=sdmountpoint ?
[21:48] <x_or> cbeske:  Is that all I need to do?
[21:48] <x_or> cbeske:  I don't need to do anything to make it "bottable?"
[21:48] <x_or> s/bottable/bootable/
[21:48] <cbeske> x_or: assuming the sd card is mounted yeah, probably
[21:48] <cbeske> x_or: is the iso bootable?
[21:49] <x_or> cbeske: It should be mounted before running the command?
[21:49] <cbeske> x_or: not sure if it absolutly needs to be, but that's what I would do
[21:49] <Kentoro> hello
[21:49] <Kentoro> can someone help me
[21:50] <cbeske> x_or: *thinks* actually it will probably work w/o mounting the sd card
[21:50] <Kentoro> i need a room for help with being new to ubuntu
[21:50] <Zane2> after i logout in ubuntu, its it possable to auto login like it was in 9.04
[21:50] <sampo> hello
[21:50] <Kentoro> i was trying to install flash palyer and it screwed up
[21:50] <erUSUL> cbeske: x_or not the mount point you have to dd to the device itself... but i do not think that would make it bootable
[21:50] <Kentoro> im really frustrated by this whole thing and im thinking of going back to windows, what do you guys think
[21:50] <cbeske> x_or: so something like dd if=/home/your.iso of=/dev/sdcard, yeah erUSUL you're right
[21:50] <sampo> I am trying to install Matlab 2009a in ubuntu 9.10 but get.."/home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/install/main.sh: 582: /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[21:51] <sampo> root@sampo-laptop:/home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab#
[21:51] <sampo> "
[21:51] <Zane2> i have a need for it, im running xbmc with no keyboard, and somtimes it crashes. but not to the point where i cant log out,
[21:51] <sampo> any advice???
[21:51] <Zane2> so it just automatilly logs me back in
[21:51] <mael> how do i get my ubuntu 8.04 color depth for X
[21:51] <Kentoro> looking for an expert, pst
[21:51] <x_or> cbeske:  Thanks, trying it now.
[21:52] <sampo> what to do???
[21:52] <Will123456> Kentoro
[21:52] <Will123456> what's your question?
[21:53] <Kentoro> i was trying to isnstall flash player and it kept saying the download was bad
[21:53] <sampo> any one there?
[21:53] <Kentoro> I couldnt uninstall
[21:53] <alphonse85> :)
[21:53] <erUSUL> mael: xdpyinfo | grep planes | tail -1
[21:53] <Will123456> Sampo: are you running in root?
[21:53] <sampo> yes
[21:53] <broken-iPod> Can somebody please help me?  I'm very frustrated at this point.
[21:53] <Zane2> is there a chan just for karmic?
[21:53] <Kentoro> all of the posts on the net was ubuntu garble
[21:53] <Kentoro> i dont understand the terminal
[21:53] <Kentoro> lol
[21:53] <Kentoro> or how to do anything
[21:53] <erUSUL> Zane2: this one
[21:53] <Will123456> Kentoro: give us a minute
[21:53] <Kentoro> i just want to use youtube
[21:53] <Kentoro> lol
[21:53] <Kentoro> kk
[21:53] <FloodBot1> Kentoro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:53] <cbeske> x_or: use dmesg to find the real device for your sd card... after you insert the card "dmesg | tail" should show you the /dev/sd[a,b,c,...] location
[21:53] <sampo> /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/install/main.sh: 582: /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[21:54] <broken-iPod> Why is it do difficult to install Flash?  I've tried multiple methods and none of them work.
[21:54] <sampo> I did..../install* -t
[21:54] <Will123456> sampo: sorry, i can't help as i don't know anything about matlab.
[21:54] <coachz> broken-iPod,  what are you trying to do ?
[21:54] <sampo> and got.../home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/install/main.sh: 582: /home/sampo/Desktop/Matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[21:54] <sampo> ok
[21:54] <Will123456> Kentoro: how are you installing flash player?
[21:54] <Kentoro> adobe website
[21:54] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" allways worked for me
[21:54] <Kentoro> .deb for ubuntu
[21:54] <Will123456> Kentoro: have you tried using the package manager?
[21:55] <Kentoro> i have but i dont understand it much
[21:55] <Kentoro> the software center?
[21:55] <broken-iPod> erUSUL: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "flashplugin-nonfree"
[21:55] <Will123456> Kentoro: yeah, that's one way to do it
[21:55] <Kentoro> alright
[21:55] <cbeske> sampo: what are the permissions on the xsetup file?
[21:55] <Kentoro> can you tell me a plugin to get that will let me play flash
[21:55] <Will123456> Kentoro: if it's not on there, try synaptic
[21:55] <Kentoro> thats another thing they said try
[21:55] <erUSUL> !info flashplugin-nonfree | broken-iPod
[21:55] <Kentoro> I dont know what the f synaptic is
[21:55] <Will123456> Kentoro: you should look for what broken-IPod and erUSUL are talking about, they have the same problem
[21:56] <Will123456> Kentoro: synaptic is a GUI package manager for ubuntu. think of it like a slightly more powerful software centre, if you will
[21:56] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: maybe you do not have multiverse enabled ? Go to System>Admin>Software sources
[21:56] <Kentoro> ok will
[21:56] <Kentoro> where do i get that at
[21:56] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: in the first tab tick the multiverse repo
[21:56] <Will123456> Kentoro: follow erUSUL's advice too- you might need to enable the multiverse
[21:57] <broken-iPod> Why is it such a difficult task?  Why can't I just go to Adobe's website and download it, then the installer actually works?  Or why can't Firefox do it on its own?
[21:57] <wrapster> weird things happening on ubuntu9.04
[21:57] <Kentoro> mine is multiverse set
[21:57] <Billiard> broken-iPod: the package manager is extremely easy much easier than going to adobes website, you can install flash player with one command
[21:57] <Will123456> Billiard is right, a centralised list is much better than having to manually locate all your software
[21:57] <wrapster> im unable to hear any audio from any of the youtube videos..
[21:58] <wrapster> but system >sound > test sound
[21:58] <wrapster> Im able to hear the beep....
[21:58] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: legal issues; copyright; software patents and all that s**t makes this things complicated in a free as in freedom world
[21:58] <wrapster> what is this?
[21:58] <Kentoro>  in the synaptic manager
[21:58] <guntbert> !enter | wrapster
[21:58] <Kentoro> which package do i look fore to get flash player
[21:58] <Will123456> Kentoro: look for flashplugin-nonfree
[21:59] <Billiard> wrapster: install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[21:59] <coachz> is the correct flash player to install for my 9.10  " .deb for Ubuntu 8.04+"
[21:59] <Billiard> wrapster: can you hear other sounds?
[21:59] <Will123456> Jesus who is telling all these people to go to the adobe website
[21:59] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: you pay nothing for the OS you have to jump some hoops; the package to read comercial DVD can not even bee in multiverse it has to be in its own repo outside the USA
[21:59] <Will123456> coachz: look for flashplugin-nonfree in synaptic
[21:59] <coachz> in the software center ?
[21:59] <Billiard> Will123456: its what you have to do in windows, its what people are used to
[21:59] <erUSUL> broken-iPod: which is BTW the country that makes this things so sh**ty
[21:59] <cyphase> does anyone know of a good svg viewer, particularly for larger svg files?
[21:59] <Kentoro> the adobe site screws everything up
[22:00] <Kentoro> even the package installer
[22:00] <Kentoro> gets bugged
[22:00] <Kentoro> but i think I may have it now