[03:21] <LjL> NOTICE - messages sent on this channel are being relayed manually, in order to avoid malicious attacks
 elyon225: When you hit tab?
 i cant play movies in totem. It says i need an encoder or something
 Flannel: As soon as I hit tab, yes.
 whats the easiest way to set up a usb mouse?
 Flannel: isnt here some lst file that tells you where the hdds are mapped
 paul__: "sudo chmod -R 777 /usr/local/games"   (probably the best thing to do to avoid other permissions problems and setting the games directory to 777 cant do that much harm)
[03:24] <Flannel> elyon225: so, it gives you an error as soon as you hit tab for >root (hd0,[tab] ?  That shouldn't happen.
[03:24] <xtknight> that tab-completion should let you see all drives under the hd0 node
 anyone have any experience with old orinoco cards?
 Flannel: Yeah... wouldn't that mean that GRUB doesn't see ANY of my partitions?
[03:24] <kiamo> thanks LjL  :)
[03:25] <elyon225> thanks, LjL
[03:25] <Flannel> elyon225: or, something.  I'm not really sure how grub determines that list.
[03:25] <xtknight> elyon225: if you get an error at that point theres definitely a problem.  but linux boots?  its on hd0 right?
[03:25] <elyon225> Flannel: Would it be helpful to try reinstalling grub completely?
[03:25] <rizzo> do I need hostap-source and/or kismet?
[03:25] <elyon225> xtknight: yeah, I only have one physical drive ... definitely on hd0 lol
 has anyone got a problem with bookmarks in streamtuner ?
 do I need hostap-source and/or kismet?
[03:26] <Flannel> elyon225: I suppose it really couldn't hurt anything, but Im not sure it would help.
[03:26] <xtknight> yellow: not that i recall.  i use streamtuner a lot though.  what is happening?
[03:26] <ardchoille42> Will Dapper ever have Firefox 2.0 ?
[03:26] <Flannel> ardchoille42: no
[03:26] <rizzo> LjL: ?
[03:26] <elyon225> ardchoille42: Nope.
[03:26] <rizzo> Is LjL just a bot that repeats everything?
[03:26] <tacticalcron> It's easy enough to install FF 2.0 on Dapper.
[03:26] <xtknight> rizzo: the channel was having issues, he just had to to avoid malicious attacks
[03:26] <tacticalcron> Just download and decompress the source.
[03:26] <onats> hi, there seems to be no sound from my laptop. how do i test if the drivers are working correctly?
[03:26] <yellow> xtknight, i'm listening to it right now, but every time i add a bookmarks, it's there, but when i restart streamtuner, the bookmarks are gone
[03:26] <LjL> rizzo, no
[03:26] <Flannel> !sound | onats
[03:26] <ubotu> onats: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:27] <LjL> rizzo, i've just had to behave like one
[03:27] <ardchoille42> if LjL is a bot, it's certainly an intelligent one, lol
[03:27] <rizzo> LjL: so have my questions been getting through, then?
[03:27] <bruenig> must be something going on, with the voice and all
[03:27] <LjL> rizzo, yes
[03:27] <j1p> I have an inland USB optical wireless mouse, I think in the past ubuntu auto detected it, but not this time, whats the easiest way to set it up?
[03:27] <rizzo> I did a synaptic search for "orinoco" and it came back with hostap-source, kismet, kwirelessmonitor and wavemon
[03:27] <kitche> ardchoille42: dapper has firefox 2.0 in !backports
[03:27] <xtknight> yellow: i just added a bookmark and restarted streamtuner.  no issue here, it shows up
[03:27] <elyon225> Flannel: So...where should I go from here, in your opinion?
[03:28] <bruenig> nooo, my voice
[03:28] <tehquickness> Hello, I was installing windows and I delete my the information on my boot partition by accident, how can I fix this?
[03:28] <elyon225> !grub | tehquickness
[03:28] <ubotu> tehquickness: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:28] <Flannel> elyon225: #grub ;)  Or, maybe the channel is ##grub  I'm really not up on the intricacies
[03:28] <xtknight> yellow: you can try removing your .streamtuner dir
[03:28] <ardchoille42> kitche, It's not in backports for Dapper, I looked.
[03:28] <elyon225> lol look at me suggesting someone follow directions that didn't help me ;)
[03:28] <tehquickness> Thank you. I will read up.
[03:29] <xtknight> yellow: `sudo rm -r .streamtuner`   in terminal in home dir
[03:29] <yellow> uhm what's that for xtknight  ?
[03:29] <yellow> ok
[03:29] <xtknight> yellow: it is a settings directory.  it will clear your personal prefs
[03:29] <xtknight> yellow: there could be a bug in the bookmarks file im thinking clearing it out will help.  binaries for streamtuner are stored in /usr
[03:29] <rizzo> I'm reading that the orinoco driver should already be in the kernel
[03:30] <rizzo> ah yeah lsmod|grep orinoco shows a lot
[03:30] <jimmy20013> I installed the linux-source but the make still says it can't find build files in /lib/modules/2.6.17
[03:30] <jimmy20013> where are the build files then?
[03:31] <yellow> ha` xtknight , that works
[03:31] <yellow> =)
[03:31] <yellow> thanks!
[03:31] <xtknight> yellow: heh, cool
[03:31] <onats> !network
[03:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:31] <onats> !share
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <xtknight> !samba
[03:31] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:31] <kitche> ardchoille42: guess not but just get the binary from getfirefox.com and extract it and sudo cp firefox(the directory) /usr/lib and you will have an updated firefox :)
[03:32] <onats> how do i know the manufacturer of my sound card?
[03:33] <xtknight> onats: lspci | grep audio
[03:33] <spuddogg> Would anyone happen to know what package I need to install to get Java working in Firefox?
[03:33] <HymnToLife> !java | spuddogg
[03:33] <ubotu> spuddogg: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:33] <xtknight> spuddogg: 32-bit or 64-bit firefox?
[03:33] <wastrel> !java
[03:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:33] <wastrel> nein!
[03:33] <elyon225> Flannel: Is it a problem if I installed windows on an extended partition instead of Primary?
[03:33] <xtknight> ja...
[03:33] <threeonefour> hi
[03:33] <jimmy20013> I installed the linux-source but the make still says it can't find build files in /lib/modules/2.6.17.where are the build files then?
[03:33] <xtknight> sun in their infinite wisdom still hasn't released a 64-bit Java.
[03:33] <Flannel> elyon225: I think that might be what's causing it, yes.
[03:33] <spuddogg> xtknight, 32
[03:33] <xtknight> and blackdown crashes for me
[03:34] <xtknight> spuddogg: ok, try the instructions above
[03:34] <elyon225> Flannel: Lol great... but it was still able to boot up a few times before I installed linux...
[03:34] <elyon225> screw Microsoft.
[03:34] <threeonefour> my printer is installed but it wont print anything
[03:34] <coshx> i'm looking for a package for java3d. is there a repository that has it, a good multi-repository package search, or am i just stuck with google?
[03:34] <xtknight> elyon225: you should have said that a year ago :P
[03:34] <elyon225> xtknight: touche ;)
[03:34] <ForgeAus> um having grub problems here any grub guru's around?
[03:34] <Flannel> elyon225: eh?  really?  well, it should be possible with grub.
[03:34] <xtknight> elyon225: i just use windows in vmware when i really need to
[03:34] <HymnToLife> jimmy20013, the linux-source package will just give you a tarball with the source inside, you need to extract it
[03:34] <Flannel> !anyone | ForgeAus
[03:34] <ubotu> ForgeAus: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:35] <HymnToLife> but generally, you don't need the full source, just the headers
[03:35] <ForgeAus> ok well I get error17
[03:35] <jimmygoon> Does anyone know how to lock packages manually seeing as Synaptics is b0rked in that regards
[03:35] <ForgeAus> (no menu no nothing)
[03:35] <spuddogg> HymnToLife, xtknight, thank you!
[03:35] <ForgeAus> I reinstalled it and stuff... just no dice
[03:35] <xtknight> jimmygoon: the only thing that comes close is sudo aptitude lock (or force version something like that).  look at the docs for aptitude ("man aptitude" in terminal)
[03:35] <shifty> hey how do i remove movie player?
[03:35] <onats> lspci | grep audio doesnt provide me with any info
[03:35] <xtknight> jimmygoon: but it doesn't even work properly it seems.  ive never had much luck
[03:35] <bruenig> shifty, sudo apt-get remove totem
[03:35] <ForgeAus> it says loading stage 1.5 then loading the menu but it doesn't actually load it it seems just goes directly to error 17
[03:36] <xtknight> onats: paste what it does provide you
[03:36] <tacticalcron> onats: Try just "lspci"
[03:36] <jimmy20013> HymnToLife: I installed it using apt-get
[03:36] <xtknight> er
[03:36] <xtknight> onats: never mind, post "lspci" to pastebin
[03:36] <onats> ah here.. found an "Audio" line. its intel..
[03:36] <HymnToLife> jimmy20013, so ? the package will still give you only a tarball
[03:36] <jimmy20013> HymnToLife: oh
[03:36] <ForgeAus> I'm booting up off of the live CD and it doesn't seem to matter what I do with menu.list constantly I get error 17...
[03:36] <xtknight> onats: Intel HD Audio?
[03:36] <HymnToLife> install the !headers first and see if your compilation works
[03:36] <jimmygoon> xtknight: hmm I had done it before I reloaded... lemme go a lookin
[03:36] <tacticalcron> Likely 82801
[03:36] <Flannel> ForgeAus: you're mixing SCSI and IDE?
[03:37] <ForgeAus> Flannel that didn't make a difference before
[03:37] <jimmy20013> HymnToLife: So how do I extract it?
[03:37] <onats> xtknight, yes its Intel HD Audio
[03:37] <ForgeAus> but kinda... I'm mixing sata and ide
[03:37] <ardchoille42> kitche, Ah, yeah. Thank you :)
[03:37] <gabriela> hello
[03:37] <ForgeAus> (which I think amounts to the same thing)
[03:37] <gabriela> need some help
[03:37] <bronze_0_1> %ask: Dont ask to ask, dont ask "can someone help me", Just ask your question. someone will chime in if they can help
[03:37] <ForgeAus> I got ide CD's and sata HDD's
[03:37] <gabriela> no image in my screen
[03:37] <bruenig> !hi | gabriela
[03:37] <ubotu> gabriela: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:37] <Flannel> ForgeAus: menu.lst only happens once it finds /boot.  basically, your computer finds your MBR, boots to it (first stage of grub) then the first stage boots to the second stage, which is /boot.  you're in between the first two, grubs first stage can't find the second stage
[03:37] <jvai> snap, what if i put hoary on an old box? will it have security holes?
[03:37] <HymnToLife> jimmy20013, you probably won't need to
[03:38] <gabriela> hi 4bruenig
[03:38] <HymnToLife> what are you trying to compile and what error do you get ?
[03:38] <threeonefour> my printer is installed but it wont print anything i get this error "/usr/lib/cups/backend/cnij_usb failed"
[03:38] <gabriela> houbotu
[03:38] <Flannel> ForgeAus: oh, no no.  This would just be mixing HDDs, CDroms don't count, since you're not booting to them.
[03:38] <ForgeAus> ok falnnel sounds logical.. but that doesn't seem to help me fix it
[03:38] <jimmy20013> HymnToLife: I thought you said I need to extract it. This is what I did sudo apt-get install linux-source
[03:38] <gabriela> i can not see anything in my screen
[03:38] <ForgeAus> well I'm on a LIVE CD now! rofl
[03:38] <jimmy20013> HymnToLife: And it downloaded the package and all. where do I go from here?
[03:39] <gabriela> the cpu is turned on but no image
[03:39] <ForgeAus> its the only boot thats working right now!
[03:39] <bruenig> gabriela, press that button on the monitor
[03:39] <ForgeAus> I can mount the drive manually (by using sudo mount) so I don't get why grub can't mount it
[03:39] <gabriela> what button?
[03:39] <Quintin> Doing a new ubuntu install on my main machine soon.. how big should / be ?
[03:39] <bruenig> gabriela, the big on in the middle that turns it on
[03:39] <bruenig> one*
[03:39] <Flannel> ForgeAus: you have one or two HDDs?  And, is the MBR on the same as /boot?  is /boot on LVM?
[03:39] <ForgeAus> I went through doing the find /boot/grub/stage1 thingy and setting it back up
[03:39] <gabriela> is turn it on
[03:39] <jimmy20013> Quintin: Atleast 2 GB
[03:39] <ForgeAus> two HDD's
[03:39] <onats> how can i test the sound using command line?
[03:39] <Quintin> jimmy20013: well duh :)
[03:40] <ForgeAus> mbr on same HDD or same partition?
[03:40] <xtknight> onats: aplay /path/to/wav/file
[03:40] <Quintin> but I want to add stuff too .. I was thinking 10 ?  Is that enough ?
[03:40] <Flannel> ForgeAus: same HD
[03:40] <ForgeAus> no LVM's here that I'm aware of
[03:40] <HymnToLife> jimmy20013, as I told you, you probably won't need the full kernel source
[03:40] <Flannel> ForgeAus: MBR isn't a partition
[03:40] <HymnToLife> just the !headers
[03:40] <ForgeAus> ok same HDD different part (I think)
[03:40] <gabriela> it start the sesion the ubuntu image and then black screen and powersaving led turn on
[03:40] <Quintin> I'm going to have SLED10, macosx, winxp pro, and ubuntu on one HDD.. trying to figure out how to slice it.
[03:40] <Flannel> ForgeAus: Where is /boot?  and is it marked bootable?
[03:40] <ForgeAus> unless my other drive also has an MBR
[03:40] <gabriela> bruenig
[03:40] <jimmy20013> HymnToLife: So how do I make the MAKE utility to work. It says that it can't find the build files
[03:40] <Pirate-king> hello
[03:40] <gabriela> estas ahi
[03:40] <Flannel> ForgeAus: well, it technically could.  Make sure (in your BIOS) you're booting to the correct
[03:40] <Flannel> !b-e | jimmy20013
[03:41] <ubotu> jimmy20013: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:41] <ForgeAus> um /boot/grub is on (hd1,1) according to linux
[03:41] <HymnToLife> jimmy20013, please pastebin the error you get
[03:41] <Pirate-king> can someone direct me on how to get  QuickCam for Notebooks  to work
[03:41] <HymnToLife> and tell me what you are trying to build
[03:41] <Flannel> ForgeAus: /boot/grub? or just /boot?
[03:41] <ForgeAus> Flannel that could be a problem because both drives are exactly the same name to the bios
[03:41] <ashayh> hi All. How to get wireless working on a laptop with ipw3945 ? It does not show up with NetworkManager . I dont' have wired internet
[03:41] <ForgeAus> so I can't tell which is which!
[03:41] <ForgeAus> both
[03:41] <ForgeAus> (its also on the LiveCD but I don't think you mean that instance)
[03:41] <gabriela> my screen is black
[03:42] <ForgeAus> sdb2 is the partition it resides on I can mount it manually
[03:42] <Flannel> ForgeAus: try swapping them in the BIOS.  you might acccidentally be booting to the other one (and somehow they both have grub installed, pointing to different /boot dirs, one non-existent)
[03:42] <gabriela> how can i do to see the image
[03:42] <onats> can i just CAT a file to the sound device?
[03:42] <gabriela> i just tried to do the 3d aceleration to work
[03:42] <bulmer> ashayh: does your laptop have an on/off switch just for that wifi ?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> Flannel ok but before I do that lets assume thats not the case (because I really don't think it is)
[03:42] <coshx> onats: you can if it's raw pcm data, iirc
[03:42] <ForgeAus> (I havn't changed the bios since it was working)
[03:42] <Wipster> hey all what are the recomended partitions and sizes for a ubuntu intallation / /home? any idea?
[03:42] <Flannel> ForgeAus: if this doesn't work, we're just going to go ahead and reinstall grub, see if that fixes it.  Reember that /boot is sdb2, which would be hd0,1 as far as grub is concerned
[03:43] <Flannel> !grub | ForgeAus, first link
[03:43] <ubotu> ForgeAus, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:43] <kiamo> everytime i set the ati thing to big desktop it and then restart X it returns to clone desktop. ideas?
[03:43] <ashayh> Yes bulmer it does. I tried booting with it off. didnt help
[03:43] <ForgeAus> yup I went throught that webpage
[03:43] <ForgeAus> did that still got error17
[03:43] <ardchoille42> Wipster, I've always let the partitioner do that and it only creates / and swap
[03:43] <bulmer> ashayh: turn it on, and then see if dmesg tells you it detected it
[03:43] <threeonefour> now i get a new error when i try to print "Unable to open USB port device file: No such file or directory"
[03:43] <Flannel> ForgeAus: what FS type is /boot?
[03:43] <ForgeAus> thats the one where you run grub and use the setup (hd1,1) command
[03:43] <ForgeAus> ext3
[03:43] <gabriela> my sesion starts and i can see the ububtu image but when the login screen i cant see nothing
[03:43] <Wipster> ardchoille42, only / and swap you say....
[03:44] <elyon225> Ah.. Perhaps this is the problem.  I have Windows installed to the same LOGICAL partition that I have my /home partition on.
[03:44] <Wipster> hmmmm
[03:44] <ardchoille42> Wipster, yes
[03:44] <ForgeAus> the boot partition /sdb2 used to be /sdb3
[03:44] <ardchoille42> Wipster, But you can create /home and /boot I suppose
[03:44] <ForgeAus> I did something to the partition table that switched it... but it still reads fine... it just messed up my grub
[03:44] <gabriela> i know that is turned on because i enter my username and password and starts ubuntu sesion but noimage
[03:44] <bulmer> gabreila go to a console, ctrl+f1 to get there
[03:44] <gabriela> i can not see console
[03:44] <ForgeAus> so I changed everything in menu.lst... but nothing there seems to make a difference
[03:44] <bulmer> gabriela did you do a ctrl+f1 ?
[03:44] <oFF-beAt> is there a help help guide for installin M$ fingerprint reader on ubuntu edgy ?
[03:45] <Naik0> Where should i put my codecs i downloaded?
[03:45] <bulmer> gabriela maybe even control+alt+f1
[03:45] <Derek> hey people, question, i still cannot figure out how to open up gparted, help
[03:45] <Naik0> essential
[03:45] <ForgeAus> so first thing to try is switching my bios... if that doesn't work reinstall grub, if that doesn't work what then?
[03:45] <Flannel> ForgeAus: well, I'm out of ideas.  No, menu.lst isn't doing anything, since grub isn't that far yet.  grub stage1 is still trying to find /boot
[03:45] <gabriela> yes but i can see anything
[03:45] <oljanx> thanks again :)
[03:45] <ardchoille42> Derek, gksudo gparted
[03:45] <gabriela> ok im there
[03:45] <bulmer> gabriela: you can seen anything?
[03:45] <gabriela> thanks blumer
[03:46] <kiamo> whats the cmd for configuring my xorg ?
[03:46] <gabriela> yeap login
[03:46] <ashayh> bulmer  The new line added to dmesg was : usb 3-2 new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and addreess 3
[03:46] <ardchoille42> kiamo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:46] <ForgeAus> ok well I guess I could try the bios thing, other than that I'm screwed?
[03:46] <bulmer> gabriela: then log on, and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to suit your resolution needs
[03:46] <kiamo> thanks :)
[03:46] <gabriela> yeap i can see the console
[03:46] <Pirate-king> can someone direct me on how to get  QuickCam for Notebooks  to work
[03:46] <whonicca> will liquor take care of a fever
[03:46] <bulmer> ashayh: there you go it is detected
[03:47] <ForgeAus> because I don't see how redoing the reinstall grub thing is going to be any different a second time
[03:47] <ForgeAus> unless I made a mistake the first one
[03:47] <gabriela> and what can i do ther
[03:47] <gabriela> blumer
[03:47] <Derek> ardchoille42: i do that, and it asks for pass, i give it pass, then its says starting up administrative task in the taskbar, then it just goes away...like magic
[03:47] <ForgeAus> ok cyas later (proly from the live CD again I guess)
[03:47] <bulmer> gabriela: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to suit your resolution needs
[03:47] <happydog> anybody use ThinkPad X60s ?
[03:47] <ashayh> bulmer but now what? I dont see it in networkmanager or the Networking settings...
[03:47] <ardchoille42> Derek, No error output in the terminal?
[03:48] <Derek> nope
[03:48] <bulmer> ashayh check your /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf
[03:48] <gabriela> command not found
[03:48] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[03:48] <Brady_M> Hello, any other system builders in here?
[03:48] <bulmer> gabriela: which command you typed?
[03:49] <Quintin> Can GRUB load an OS that is not on a primary partition?
[03:49] <happydog> who can help me,there is a problem on my laptop ThinkPad X60s
[03:49] <ardchoille42> Derek, Does 'ps aux | grep gparted' show anything besides the grep command?
[03:49] <SilentDis> Brady_M, system builder:  as in someone who builds their own 'puter, or something else?
[03:49] <ashayh> bulmer I have 3 dirs there: all default and lo
[03:49] <gabriela> sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <SilentDis> !ask | happydog
[03:49] <ubotu> happydog: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:49] <bulmer> gabriela  sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:50] <gabriela> ok
[03:50] <Derek> ardchoille: it gave me this : 'dirka    11657  0.0  0.1   2796   756 pts/0    S+   18:49   0:00 grep gparted
[03:50] <bulmer> ashayh then your usb wifi card is not detected correctly
[03:50] <happydog> ubotu thank you
[03:50] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:50] <ardchoille42> Derek, Yeah, that's showing the grep gparted command you just ran.
[03:50] <gabriela> i got something
[03:50] <onats> i want to be able to access my shared folders in a windows computer.. how do i do that?
[03:50] <happydog> I have a X60s,and when i finished install,there is no sound
[03:50] <SilentDis> !samba | onats
[03:50] <ubotu> onats: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:50] <crimsun> happydog: you need alsa-driver 1.0.13 or 1.0.14rc2
[03:51] <Derek> ardchoille: well, what should i do?
[03:51] <bulmer> gabriela you need to prefix your message with my nick if its for me , otherwise I will miss it
[03:51] <bullium> has anyone gotten compiz and xgl to run on a dell latitude c610?
[03:51] <happydog> crimsun i think no
[03:51] <Brady_M> I own a computer store. I sell my own brand PC's I just had sat in a meeting with MS today.  I am thinking this year about making PC's for customers with just Ubuntu so I can friken compete with the big guys. So looking for other people possibly in my field that might know what they are planning on doing.
[03:51] <happydog> cause ubuntu detected my sound card
[03:51] <SilentDis> bullium, what vid card?
[03:52] <crimsun> happydog: it's not _detection_ that's the issue; it's the pin routing in the driver itself. It's fixed in 1.0.14rc2.
[03:52] <Leumas> hi
[03:52] <gabriela> the last line says /etc/X11/xorg.conf" 180 lines, 4824 characteres
[03:52] <ardchoille42> Derek, Try: gksudo $(which gparted)
[03:52] <jvai> brady_M i'd luv to do what u r doin... in dc
[03:52] <Leumas> does anybody have experience with ltsp?
[03:52] <gabriela> dont know how to do that to prefix your name
[03:52] <bullium> hold on a sec I'll let you know
[03:52] <happydog> really?
[03:52] <threeonefour> leumas, i do
[03:53] <Joe88> Can someone help me with wireless? I followed this tutorial to get it working (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102) And now my wireless light is on... but It still dosent seem to be connecting to the internet?
[03:53] <happydog> i've tried so many distributions,but i failed
[03:53] <SilentDis> Brady_M, I do custom builds all the time, and do recommend ubuntu myself.  I offer a windows option, and only offer retail box options for purchasing it legally.  if someone asks me to fix their 'puter, I offer to put ubuntu on it, or they have to give me a valid windows CD/CD key with it.  period.  i don't own a shop, but I do what I can to push ubuntu that way:  keep it legal or go open source, period. :)
[03:53] <exspecto> i'm running edgy on an acer travelmate (2423).  i use gnome and i set up the power manager to Ask Me when i hit the power button, and it used to work.  now when i hit the power button it just automatically shuts down immediately after displaying the choices.  i have double and triple checked that it's still set to "ask me" when i hit the power button, and have even tried reinstalling the gnome-power-manager and reconfiguri
[03:53] <exspecto> ng it with dpkg - to no avail.  any suggestions?
[03:53] <gabriela> 4blumer
[03:53] <gabriela> are you there
[03:53] <Leumas> threeonefour, can we speak in quiery?
[03:53] <Derek> ardchoille: it gave me 'sudo: $: command not found'
[03:53] <instabin> !mp3
[03:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:53] <onats> is there any gui tool that can discover the shared folderes automatically?
[03:53] <blameless> has anyone installed xfce 4.4 on edgy as of yet?
[03:53] <ardchoille42> Derek, Do you have gparted installed?
[03:53] <threeonefour> leumas, join  #threeoneFour
[03:53] <threeonefour> leumas, join  #threeonefour
[03:53] <threeonefour> leumas, join  #threeonefour sorry
[03:54] <Derek> adrchoille: i have no idea lol, does it come preinstalled
[03:54] <distro-tester> i used skype linux but was not able to find the live botton neither to find where to join live chats any one knows how u do that on the linux version?
[03:54] <Derek> i jsut started 2 days ago
[03:54] <exspecto> adrc: try "qtparted"
[03:54] <happydog> crimsun: are you still there?
[03:54] <exspecto> should be preinstalled
[03:54] <ardchoille42> Derek, sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:54] <gabriela> you are the onlyone that is helping me bulmer plase tel me what can i do?
[03:54] <Brady_M> Well, MS has made it sound like to me I can only sell systems with Vista with all windows Certified hardware. Deal with that is I use generic brands now just to keep my price near to people like Dell etc. But If I use Win certified board etc. My price point on a PC will be friekn in the $1,300. range !!! I can't do that!
[03:54] <timephoenix> hey guys. having a problem compiling GAIM... ./configure brings up error configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH. I have GCC 4 installed.
[03:54] <mobiGeek> morning folks!
[03:55] <exspecto> howdy
[03:55] <kismet> Does anybody know how to connect a cellphone?
[03:55] <LjL> Ubotu, tell timephoenix about build-essential | timephoenix, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:55] <gabriela> are you there
[03:55] <bullium> Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[03:55] <ardchoille42> Derek, The gksudo $(which gparted) command problem told me you don't have it installed
[03:55] <exspecto> kismet: probably with a propietary cable
[03:55] <threeonefour> LiL, no problem
[03:55] <kismet> I have a cable... no luck
[03:55] <bulmer> gabriela: look at the settings you have for the monitor or crt...ensure that your monitor matches whats set on your xorg.conf file
[03:55] <Leumas> well
[03:55] <Leumas> i have a problem with ltsp
[03:55] <Joe88> Can someone help me with wireless? I followed this tutorial to get it working (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102) And now my wireless light is on... but It still dosent seem to be connecting to the internet? (seemed like the question moved up pretty fast not sure if anyone seen it)
[03:55] <llindy> timephoenix, you should already find gaim in synaptic
[03:55] <exspecto> kisme: probably need their particular driver and/or software too
[03:55] <gabriela> im a rookie on that
[03:55] <Leumas> the client can't load the kernel
[03:56] <gabriela> do you have msn
[03:56] <crimsun> happydog: in and out. I'm at work.
[03:56] <threeonefour> Leumas, ok what is your problem
[03:56] <Derek> ardchoille: uh oh, what do i have to do to install it?
[03:56] <Leumas> only load the file pxelinux.0
[03:56] <gabriela> bulmer
[03:56] <ardchoille42> Derek, sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:56] <gabriela> msn??
[03:56] <ForgeAus> back again
[03:56] <Brady_M> So, I just watched a video of one of the folks there at ubuntu and know Beryl and GLX are in the next release
[03:56] <ForgeAus> no difference either way
[03:56] <ForgeAus> (assuming I was able to change the HDD)
[03:56] <Brady_M> and I am thinkings
[03:56] <kismet> Expecto where can I find driver for the LG VX8300 of Ubuntu?
[03:56] <ForgeAus> like I said they're both the same can't tell them apart
[03:56] <bulmer> gabriela: what kind of monitor do you have? and what the resolution for it?
[03:56] <timephoenix> @llindy: I was trying to install the latest beta which fixes some bugs in the latest stable (1.5)
[03:56] <Leumas> threeonefour, the client only load the file pxelinux.0
[03:56] <Leumas> but can't load the kernel
[03:56] <ardchoille42> Derek, After you install it, there should be a menu item for it in System -> Administration "Gnome Partition Editor"
[03:57] <ForgeAus> which means either A after 3 attempts at selecting different options on the order between them
[03:57] <llindy> yacc, I have the beta, been having probs too
[03:57] <threeonefour> Leumas, really
[03:57] <gabriela> is  crt sony and oldone
[03:57] <ashayh> bulmer: thats odd .. dmesg clearly says "ipw3945 detected Network Connection" ... Anyway .. thank you for your time and help
[03:57] <Leumas> it's say: Could not find kernel image: linux
[03:57] <Leumas> boot:
[03:57] <happydog> crimsun: i'm sorry,but i need you help
[03:57] <ForgeAus> either A) they both have a mbr or B) ones defaulting to the other or C) something else very strange is going on
[03:57] <gabriela> 1230-760 something like that
[03:57] <ForgeAus> (one is NTFS)
[03:57] <Leumas> and nothing more happens
[03:57] <exspecto> that a samsung kismet?
[03:57] <threeonefour> Leumas, what version of ubuntu are you using
[03:57] <gabriela> y can put a very low res but dont know how
[03:57] <ForgeAus> other is a multi-partition drive
[03:57] <Leumas> well
[03:57] <Derek> ardchoille42: Yay!! thanks, now, just to make a partition for dual boot!
[03:57] <kitche> Brady_M: glx is in every linux distro already it's part of xorg unless you mean xgl
[03:57] <Brady_M> Well, deal is people asked in this meeting if they were going to help us little computer store guys with promotions, they are not planning untill AFTER 6 months with program matereils to draw people in to buy. To me, the small guy! that's to friken late. So I am thinking of nixing them and offering completes just with Ubuntu.
[03:57] <Leumas> i'm using Debian etch..
[03:57] <bulmer> gabriela: hang on, let me compare my xorg.conf to yours..
[03:57] <ardchoille42> Derek, Woot! :)
[03:58] <happydog> without sound,i can't do anythings,such as listen to the music,watch movie....
[03:58] <gabriela> ok
[03:58] <gabriela> i will wait
[03:58] <Leumas> threeonefour, Debian etch
[03:58] <kismet> No its a Verizon VX8300 Vcast mp3
[03:58] <Brady_M> right
[03:58] <jvai> lemas, hows etch?
[03:58] <Brady_M> sorry, getting angry just thinking about it.
[03:58] <Leumas> threeonefour, i have search in google
[03:58] <threeonefour> Leumas, if it isnt ubuntu i cant help you but  go to #ltsp
[03:58] <edman007> Leumas did you do all the nessecary stuff in your dhcpcd.conf to give the client the servers (like the tftp server for the kernel)
[03:58] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, how do I install a package manually?  I have the .deb on my desktop.
[03:59] <tacticalcron> bulmer, can I see her xorg.conf?
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> |Jason8|: double click
[03:59] <threeonefour> Leumas, there will be people there that can help you
[03:59] <|Jason8|> That's it?  Awesome.
[03:59] <Leumas> threeonefour, ok, than you
[03:59] <ardchoille42> |Jason8|, Are you sure that app isn't in the repos?
[03:59] <Leumas> edman007, yeah
[03:59] <kismet> Expecto instnat message?
[03:59] <SilentDis> Brady_M, I firmly believe that linux has finally come to a point of 'usable' for the normal person.  yes, there are some rough edges (synaptic, drivers, etc) but if you're custom building the machines and setting them up fully, you could probably throw in 6mo service for a VERY small fee and people would be OVERJOYED at the lower cost on their machine, and all the good that comes with a true linux OS :)
[03:59] <timephoenix> @Brady_M: It is my opinion that Vista is so overpriced that many will think twice. I've had some success shifting Ubuntu boxes with XGL & Wine.
[03:59] <Leumas> jvai, it's really good, but.. still don't tottaly
[03:59] <|Jason8|> ardchoille42, yeah.  I checked.
[03:59] <bullium> n e idea?
[03:59] <onats> !divx
[03:59] <edman007> Leumas cause i have a working netboot with slack, and i can get the configs if you need it
[03:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:59] <ardchoille42> |Jason8|, You can use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[03:59] <happydog> who knows LFS ?
[04:00] <|Jason8|> Archive Manager doesn't support it?  Gah.
[04:00] <jvai> ok
[04:00] <Leumas> ok
[04:00] <|Jason8|> ardchoille42, okay, I'll do that.  Thanks.
[04:00] <Leumas> edman007, Ok
[04:00] <adamonline45> !thttpd
[04:00] <ubotu> thttpd: tiny/turbo/throttling HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.23beta1-4 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 216 kB
[04:00] <Leumas> edman007, please send me the configs
[04:00] <bulmer> gabriela: in your xorg.conf under your Monitor what is it described as? what is the default depth ?
[04:00] <exspecto> can you post urls in here?
[04:00] <adamonline45> How do I add respositories via CLI?
[04:01] <ardchoille42> tonyyarusso, double-clicking a .deb here launches gdebi as user. Is that normal?
[04:01] <LjL> Ubotu, tell adamonline45 about repos | adamonline45, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:01] <SilentDis> exspecto, yes
[04:01] <exspecto> adamon: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <LjL> adamonline45: this has a CLI section as well as a GNOME and KDE section
[04:01] <exspecto> thanks silent
[04:01] <edman007> Leumas ok, just a minute
[04:01] <SilentDis> exspecto, if you spam, the heavy hand of the boot will come down upon you though ;)
[04:01] <kitche> happydog: lfs is offtopic but I don't mind talking about it in #kitchetech
[04:01] <sjust1216> when I start an admin
[04:01] <exspecto> kismet: http://www.quietearth.us/vx9800.htm
[04:01] <Leumas> edman007, thnk
[04:01] <onats> how do i install divx codec? totem can't play my AVI files
[04:01] <jvai> i'm goin to try etch on a tinkpad a20 i got for $100., i have dapper on it, but it doesnt pick up the orinoco card
[04:01] <bulmer> gabriela: in your xorg.conf under your Monitor what is it described as? what is the default depth ?
[04:01] <gabriela> says screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen(0)" 0 0
[04:01] <exspecto> kismet: and this one http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/09/11/Ubuntu-Installing-bitpim
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille42: Rather than as root you mean?  I think it usually prompts for the pw if required.
[04:01] <adamonline45> thanks you two!
[04:01] <threeonefour> Leumas, you might have problems with java
[04:01] <tacticalcron> She might want to try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".
[04:01] <SilentDis> !divx | onats
[04:01] <ubotu> onats: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:02] <ardchoille42> tonyyarusso, Yeah, I mean rather than as root. It doesn't prompt me for the admin pass at all.
[04:02] <exspecto> anyone have problems with the gnome-power-manager not doing what you tell it to do?  :)
[04:02] <Leumas> threeonefour, i don't know
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille42: I'd say that's not normal then.  But, I don't often use it, so that's pretty fuzzy memory.
[04:02] <bulmer> gabriela that doesnt looked close to mine...again under Screen and Monitor and Default dept
[04:02] <ardchoille42> tonyyarusso, Thank you, I'll look into it.
[04:03] <sjust1216> when I start an administrative app instead of the password prompt the screen just dims out and everything freezes
[04:03] <gabriela> dont see that lines
[04:03] <ardchoille42> sjust1216, That is normal and it should ask for the admin pass. You can stop the screen dimming with: gksudo -g command
[04:03] <threeonefour> Leumas, what i mean is once you get the clients booted you might have problems with java and flash. i have only booted 84 clients successfully with edubuntu and i ran into those problems
[04:04] <gabriela> hold on
[04:04] <sjust1216> but it never gets to the point of asking for the password
[04:04] <gabriela> under monitor says
[04:04] <gabriela> monitor
[04:04] <Brady_M> yea, that's the thing, they are expressively stating they are planning to help there partners push us out. So we can't compete. I have made a few donations of computers to people (some old one, repaired them and gave them back Ubuntu on them with the disk, and all of them who got a donation from me, appreciated it and didn't have a problem with it. I take there calls and fix minor things, but now I am thinking of finding other sma
[04:04] <bulmer> gabriela: it seems like Ubuntu has not detected your CRT correctly and have not set the correct settings..i dont know how to enable X configuration in ubuntu, in suse its sax2
[04:04] <Leumas> threeonefour, iah, ok, ... but now i even can't load the kernel :(
[04:04] <bulmer> at init level 3
[04:04] <gabriela> identifier  generic monitor
[04:05] <sjust1216> and the screen freezes have to use ctl-alt-backspace
[04:05] <kismet> I NEED DRIVERS!
[04:05] <threeonefour> Leumas, how many clients
[04:05] <SilentDis> !elaborate | kismet
[04:05] <ubotu> kismet: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[04:05] <tacticalcron> gabriela: Hit :q to get out of that.
[04:05] <gabriela> default deep 24
[04:05] <tacticalcron> I have something we can try.
[04:06] <Leumas> threeonefour, just 5 for now
[04:06] <Leumas> threeonefour, i'm only making probes
[04:06] <gabriela> section screen identifier default screen
[04:06] <kismet> Verizon LG VX 8300 mp3 phone drivers for Ubuntu
[04:06] <onats> !hibernate
[04:06] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[04:06] <exspecto> if you need drivers, they are probably on the cd that came with the cable
[04:06] <bulmer> gabriela that seemed too high for an old CRT..go see whats the line for dept  24 and see if those resolution is even mentioned there
[04:06] <threeonefour> Leumas, go one at a time first off
[04:06] <onats> can anyone help me with hibernate issues?
[04:06] <threeonefour> Leumas, and upgrad to ltsp 5
[04:06] <Leumas> threeonefour, yeah, i'm trying only one
[04:06] <bulmer> gabriela: the modes for depth 24
[04:06] <onats> the hibernate function doesnt seem to work on my installation
[04:06] <gabriela> divice ati technologies inc rv280 radeon 9200 pro
[04:07] <kismet> But I can't install drivers onto Linux that are made for Microblows
[04:07] <exspecto> onats: i'm having issues with power events as well
[04:07] <gabriela> defaullt depth 24
[04:07] <exspecto> kismet, did you read those two links i sent you?
[04:07] <exspecto> they talk about setting it up in linux
[04:07] <gabriela> can i change that?
[04:07] <sjust1216> this problem only happens from a menu or icon on the panel
[04:07] <alex_mayorga> hi, anyone know how to enable bluetooth on a logitech dinovo bluetooth set?
[04:07] <bulmer> gabriela: the modes..whats in it?  1280x1024? 600x800?
[04:07] <onats> exspecto, yeah... that's probably one more reason why i cant fully migrate...
[04:08] <onats> i need to be able to put my notebook on hibernate
[04:08] <gabriela> yeap
[04:08] <kismet> Yeah I did
[04:08] <kismet> ...
[04:08] <Leumas> threeonefour, but the client can't load the ltsp kernel, only load pxelinux.0
[04:08] <onats> Totem could not play 'smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/Storage (F)/Videos/Seasons/Greys.Anatomy.S03E12.PROPER.HDTV.XviD-XOR.avi'.
[04:08] <gabriela> below says depth 1
[04:08] <gabriela> modes
[04:08] <onats> already downloaded gstreamer codecs..
[04:08] <exspecto> onats, are you SURE it doesn't work?  at first, i thought hibernate didn't work for me, but it just takes about 5 times longer than it takes windows to do it.
[04:08] <bulmer> gabriela: but are you sure your CRT can handle those resolutions? select a better depth that matches
[04:08] <gabriela> 1024x768 "800x600 640x480
[04:09] <andre> you also need libdvdcss2
[04:09] <exspecto> onats: if the screen goes black, you see a blinking cursor in the top left, and harddrive activity after a few seconds, then just let it chug for a few minutes
[04:09] <bulmer> gabriela  play around with it, i have to go right now...cant stay
[04:09] <threeonefour> Leumas, yes i know   but when you upgrade to the newest ltsp 5 it will give you a new kernal or should at least
[04:09] <gabriela> the old res was 1024x768
[04:09] <gabriela> ok thanks
[04:09] <gabriela> any way
[04:09] <onats> exspecto, well what happens is that it actually shuts down the computer, i think it already stores the info on the swap. however, upon reloading, its still very buggy in that the login screen/opening screen gets distorted
[04:09] <gabriela> i apreciete your help
[04:09] <bulmer> no problem
[04:09] <exspecto> yeah, mines distorted at first
[04:09] <bulmer> sorry i have to leave for now
[04:09] <Leumas> threeonefour, ok thnks
[04:09] <exspecto> but then it clears up after it's done
[04:10] <onats> thus, its still not that reliable right?
[04:10] <andre> is there an easy way too configure a secure firewall
[04:10] <exspecto> you might want to add "Option" "VBERestore" to your xorg.conf in the video card's device section
[04:10] <exspecto> onats: no, it works for me, it just *looks* like it's not working at first
[04:10] <kelsin> andre: the program firestarter can help
[04:10] <andre> ok thaks
[04:10] <jimmy20013> I am trying to compile ndiswrapper from source and I have the linux-source package but I still get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3049/
[04:11] <exspecto> yeah, firestarter is ok if you don't need anything special
[04:11] <exspecto> jimmy, why from source?
[04:11] <kismet> Can I install the windows drivers for ubuntu?
[04:11] <onats> where is xorg.conf located?
[04:11] <gabriela> does some know how can i fix my resolution from console mode?
[04:11] <exspecto> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:11] <jimmy20013> exspecto: The repos don't seem to have it
[04:11] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[04:11] <mobiGeek> andre: http://www.linuxforums.org/security/locking_down_ubuntu.html
[04:11] <exspecto> jimmy: try this:    sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[04:12] <jimmy20013> exspecto: ok
[04:12] <jvai> mobigeek.. ty for that link.. bookmarkin it now
[04:12] <Imsdle> HELP
[04:12] <mobiGeek> Google is your friend:  http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20secure%20firewall%20configure
[04:12] <onats> exspecto, what improvement did the VBERestore give?
[04:12] <mobiGeek> jvai: np
[04:12] <exspecto> it helps to redraw the display correctly when it boots back up and restores from the disk
[04:12] <jvai> ok
[04:13] <edman007> Leumas http://jtgfashion.homelinux.org/~edman007/pxe-stuff.tar.bz2
[04:13] <mobiGeek> Imsdle: ?
[04:13] <jimmy20013> exspecto: Thanks. It worked
[04:13] <exspecto> onats: i was a bit wrong.  should be "Option" "VBERestore" "true"
[04:13] <Imsdle> I have just done a apt-get dist-upgrade and now I can't get into Ubuntu.. i have spent 6 hours googling.. tried everything including apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... and I still can't get it to work
[04:14] <exspecto> jimmy: i had that same problem
[04:14] <distro-tester> any one uses skype for linux here?
[04:14] <violot> distro-tester, yes.
[04:14] <Imsdle> is there a command that will take me though the setup again?
[04:14] <mobiGeek> Imsdle: define "can't get it to work"
[04:14] <Brady_M> jvai: I'm thinking of selling some completes based on supported Ubuntu linux hardware for the April release. Sell them online and in store. Because my customer base are looking for the "599.00 deals. I'm the small guy. buy motherboards and LCD's at 5-10 at a time and I can't buy stuff in bulk in the thousands. So if I get on this Ubuntu reseller program, I plan to promote them at the store and online. The limits put on me makes me
[04:14] <riotkittie> Imsdle: elaborate on "cant got into Ubuntu"
[04:14] <riotkittie> err get.
[04:14] <Imsdle> startx won't work
[04:14] <violot> distro-tester, I do.
[04:14] <andre> thanks mobigeek
[04:14] <Imsdle> unable to open /dev/agpgart
[04:14] <exspecto> uh
[04:14] <distro-tester> ok violot my question is how to join skypecasts as linux version dosen't have live botton to join live rooms ?
[04:14] <Derek>  ardchoille42: im still having trouble :( i dont understand how to make partitions...
[04:15] <exspecto> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg  ?
[04:15] <jvai> ooo ok @brady_m
[04:15] <exspecto> i'm sure i have the package name wrong on that one though
[04:15] <distro-tester> do u know violot?
[04:15] <violot> distro-tester, uhhh, I dunno.  I never knew there were "Skypecasts" 'cos I've only used the Linux version, sorry.
[04:15] <cyzie> other than gparted, any other similar tools with GUI ?
[04:15] <distro-tester> damn
[04:15] <riotkittie> exspecto: xserver-xorg
[04:15] <exspecto> qtparted
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | distro-tester
[04:15] <ubotu> distro-tester: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:16] <exspecto> imsidle: yeah, what riot said
[04:16] <distro-tester> that's the problem couse we get lower version
[04:16] <Imsdle> it says that xorg isn't installed!
[04:16] <Imsdle> arrg
[04:16] <distro-tester> thanx sorry
[04:16] <distro-tester> hehe
[04:16] <onats> exsacto,can i put the "Option" "VBERestore" "true" in any section?
[04:16] <Imsdle> i can't even get the computer on the network! grrrrrr
[04:16] <exspecto> imsidle:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:16] <violot> distro-tester, yeah, sorry :|
[04:16] <exspecto> onats: no
[04:16] <distro-tester> if any one knows how to join skypecasts whit skype for linux please tell us?
[04:16] <jimmygoon> PLEASE! Someone help me lock this package >_< I'm tearing my hair out
[04:16] <exspecto> onats: in the Device section for your video card
[04:16] <riotkittie> Imsdle: what did you upgrade to?
[04:16] <greghunt> something seems to be blocking my sound, is there a way to fix this?
[04:16] <ardchoille42> Derek, I'm not good with partitions as I've never had to create them :(
[04:17] <Derek> darnit
[04:17] <exspecto> derek
[04:17] <exspecto> did you try qtparted?
[04:17] <Derek> yes?
[04:17] <onats> ok thanks, let me try that out
[04:17] <mobiGeek> greghunt: define "blocking my sound"
[04:17] <Derek> qtparted?
[04:17] <exspecto> yes
[04:17] <kitche> jimmygoon: sudo aptitude hold <package>
[04:17] <Derek> wat is that
[04:17] <mobiGeek> QT partition editor
[04:17] <greghunt> i pay a video with say youtube, then after i can't play any other sounds
[04:17] <kitche> Derek: just like gparted but uses qt instead of gtk
[04:17] <exspecto> another program for editing partitions
[04:17] <kismet> Nothing works... for this phone
[04:18] <Imsdle> nothing works.....
[04:18] <greghunt> it used to work, i think maybe i updated something...
[04:18] <Derek> ok, how would i obtain this
[04:18] <Imsdle> how do i reinstall?
[04:18] <Leumas> edman007, thnks
[04:18] <edman007> no
[04:18] <Imsdle> i upgraded from 4.1 to dapper drake?
[04:18] <edman007> *np
[04:18] <edman007> ;)
[04:18] <Imsdle> whatever a dapper drake is .. id doesn't @#$#@ work
[04:18] <riotkittie> from 4.1?  woah.
[04:18] <exspecto> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[04:19] <exspecto> but i bet it's already installed
[04:19] <Imsdle> i only got broadband yesterday... :(
[04:19] <riotkittie> dapper works fine for ... the vast majority of us. better than 4.1, one assumes :P
[04:19] <exspecto> i like edgy better for wireless
[04:19] <Imsdle> 4.1 has been working swell for 2 years
[04:19] <Imsdle> until i upgraded it
[04:19] <riotkittie> Imsdle: do you have free space on your drive?
[04:19] <Imsdle> :(
[04:19] <Imsdle> lots
[04:19] <exspecto> and it's still quirky as hell with my wireless :)
[04:19] <jimmygoon> kitche: I tried that and when I rebooted it pegged it as an upgrade again
[04:19] <edman007> anyone here have any estimates for how long it takes to compile the kernel on a 600Mhz box?
[04:20] <exspecto> edman: that depends wildly
[04:20] <Derek> exspecto: how would i no if its installed?
[04:20] <Meheren> edman ppc or x86 g3 g4 p1 p2 or p3
[04:20] <exspecto> derek: try to run it
[04:20] <Derek> how?
[04:20] <riotkittie> do you have the ability to back your data up somehow ?
[04:20] <Imsdle> is there a comman that will take me through the startup again?
[04:20] <exspecto> type it into a console
[04:20] <kismet> sudo apt-get install vx8300-drivers?
[04:20] <Derek> me=noob 2nd day
[04:20] <exspecto> or choose the "Run..." menu
[04:20] <Meheren> so which one is more lightweight frost or lime... wire
[04:20] <exspecto> kismet: if only life were that easy
[04:21] <gop> hey how come
[04:21] <riotkittie> Imsdle: i'm not sure. i was goning to suggest a clean install of dapper.
[04:21] <gop> when I installed
[04:21] <exspecto> meheren: frostwire doesn't have spyware
[04:21] <kismet> I can't find ANY drivers
[04:21] <gop> eddgy
[04:21] <gop> just installed eddgy
[04:21] <gop> it has less packages
[04:21] <gop> then
[04:21] <Meheren> spyware.. for ubuntu?
[04:21] <gop> dapper
[04:21] <gop> does eddgy have less packages
[04:21] <exspecto> limewire...i don't trust it
[04:21] <Meheren> ok.. heh
[04:21] <wastrel> limewire has spyware?
[04:21] <edman007> i took the linux-generic config, removed a few major things i don't need but left most drivers in for common things, and its a pentium-m 600Mhz
[04:21] <adamonline45> !make-install
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about make-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <exspecto> frostwire, i don't like it, but i trust it
[04:21] <Imsdle> yeah.. i can back it up...... but i don't really want to have too
[04:21] <riotkittie> gop: did you have multi and universe enabled on dapper? but not on edgy ?
[04:22] <Derek> what the heck is frostwire/ya..how do i run stuff
[04:22] <exspecto> wastrel: it did at one point.  now they say it doesn't, but i don't trust a dog once it's bitten
[04:22] <distro-tester> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=72088
[04:22] <Meheren> edman, maybe 1 hour
[04:22] <gop> riotkittie:  thanks I think   so
[04:22] <exspecto> derek, hit alt+f2
[04:22] <Pooky> beryl is neat.
[04:22] <edman007> i just haven't done it recently on a slow box...
[04:22] <Meheren> edman007, maybe 1 hour maybe 2
[04:22] <gop> riotkittie:  can I enable them in eddgy
[04:22] <gop> and the xchat in eddgy seem diferent
[04:22] <blueskiesmn> newbie here...trying out the live boot CD of Dapper Drake...everything is great except I don't seem to have video for the example "experience ubuntu.ogg" file. help anyone?
[04:22] <Meheren> edman007, depends on so many thing sit's very hard to tell on my pIII 550 box 256 ram it takes about 2
[04:22] <edman007> Meheren :( all well looks like i'll be here a while
[04:23] <alex_mayorga> anyone with functional bluetooth that can help me out?
[04:23] <riotkittie> gop: yea, you know how to do it right? enable the repos, that is?  oh, and as for the xchat, different how? you may be using xchat-gnome over xchat, or vise versa
[04:23] <Meheren> edman007, don't... i would reccomend sleeping on it... or going and doing something
[04:23] <Meheren> edman007, that's what i always do :p
[04:23] <jimmygoon> kitche: its not working
[04:23] <edman007> to early to sleep, and i don't "go out"
[04:23] <exspecto> i haven't had to compile a kernel in ages
[04:23] <kismet> Synaptic /vx8300?
[04:24] <exspecto> doesn't ubuntu have most modules already compiled?
[04:24] <gop> riotkittie:  like  I don't even see user list the UI is different
[04:24] <Imsdle> is there a command that will take me through the startup process again from the files available on the hard disk?
[04:24] <Meheren> expecto,
[04:24] <Meheren> yes
[04:24] <riotkittie> Imsdle: i hope someone who can help you speaks up soon. have you tried posting at, or searching the forums, righ?
[04:24] <gop> riotkittie:  how do I enable the repos I forget
[04:24] <Meheren> expecto, they have almost all the kernels... and edgy has a generic one
[04:24] <gop> On the right side
[04:24] <Imsdle> i have searched all the forums.. and google... even resorted to yahoo... ok ok ok iknow. i was despriate ok
[04:24] <gop> I don't see user list
[04:24] <exspecto> imsdle: i'd reinstall from scratch personally
[04:25] <distro-tester> any one tryied to use skype for xp whit wine
[04:25] <distro-tester> ?
[04:25] <exspecto> i doubt it would work distro
[04:25] <gop> and riotkittie none of my windows partions mounted
[04:25] <gop> like they did in
[04:25] <gop> before
[04:25] <Imsdle> i don't mind reinstalling it.. but can i reinstall it from command prompt thingy? i have downloaded all the updates.. don't really want to have to do it all again if i can help it
[04:25] <Derek> exspecto: qtparted is booted, but it said "no devices found, maybe your not the root user"
[04:25] <jimmy20013> What can I use to extract drivers from an exe file?
[04:26] <archangelpetro> is there any actual benefit to using 64bit ubuntu over 32bit?  Since as far as i've experienced 64bit support is ... well frustrating
[04:26] <exspecto> derek: close it.  then do alt+f2 again and type "gksu qtparted"
[04:26] <naphelge> hey gang i got an old laptop P2 with 64 megs ram... any chance ubuntu would run on that or if not any ideas what distro might other than LFS?
[04:26] <exspecto> without the quotes
[04:26] <Imsdle> reinstalling with ubuntu usually means reformating.. isn't there another way
[04:26] <frogzoo> archangelpetro: for the desktop, 32bit is the way to go
[04:26] <BrendanM> Naphelge, you might try Xubuntu
[04:26] <riotkittie> gop: ok, if there's no user list, its xchat-gnome.    xchat is multi or uni, i think. as for enabling those, in a term, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.bak  and then open the /etc/apt/sources.list in the text editor of your choice
[04:26] <exspecto> archangel: i've had many random lockups with 64bit, usually due to "cool n' quiet" in the bios
[04:26] <chizang> i'm having problems doing an apt-get dist-upgrade to edgy, lighttpd is giving me problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3053/
[04:26] <BrendanM> there's also something called UbuntuLite I think, but it's not officially supported
[04:27] <Meheren> naphelge, damn small linux
[04:27] <archangelpetro> frogzoo, yea im thinking that's probably the best idea.. since im on 64bit atm.. and i dont really see any benefits over 32bit
[04:27] <gop> riotkittie:  oh so this is not the orginal xchat
[04:27] <BrendanM> that's another good one
[04:27] <BrendanM> PuppyLinux is very small as well, and I like it pretty well
[04:27] <Meheren> naphelge, for sure... you might be able to squeeze a ubuntu on it but it would be slow
[04:27] <exspecto> 32bit runs great on 64bit chips
[04:27] <jimmygoon> I found it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1997962&postcount=6
[04:27] <naphelge> kk thanx brendanM... any ideas what WM i could use with just 64 megs ram? i am true blue gnome user but i know there is no chance of that
[04:27] <archangelpetro> yea
[04:27] <archangelpetro> well
[04:27] <archangelpetro> i suppose i should reformat.
[04:27] <exspecto> and you'll have flash...if you like it
[04:27] <jimmy20013> What can I use to extract drivers from an exe file?
[04:27] <riotkittie> gop: and uncomment the lines thatt say multi and universe. or from synaptic, but i'm not sure which menu repos are on
[04:27] <BrendanM> I'm running Xubuntu which uses Xfce
[04:28] <BrendanM> I have P3 with 128 MB
[04:28] <naphelge> how much mem does xfce use?
[04:28] <exspecto> jimmy: if it's really just a self-extracting zip file, use unzip
[04:28] <naphelge> ah okies
[04:28] <BrendanM> it runs really well, unless I open big software
[04:28] <riotkittie> naphelge: try fluxbox? openbox? windowmaker?
[04:28] <exspecto> fluxbox kicks much arse
[04:28] <archangelpetro> exspecto, if i just copy the contents of my home folder somewhere else, and then reinstall as 32bit dapper  (I had crash problems with edgy (but that again was 64bit)) and then copy my home contents back, everything should be ok right?
[04:28] <BrendanM> People rave about fluxbox, but it's just too minimalist for me
[04:28] <exspecto> and Enlightenment
[04:28] <naphelge> kk i'm not gonna use it to run web dev tools or anything just basic network test laptop maybe firewall
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Enlightenment 17 is looking pretty good so far, btw
[04:29] <riotkittie> BrendanM: with 64mb of ram, minimalist is the way to go :P
[04:29] <naphelge> but would like a WM if i can
[04:29] <gop> riotkittie:  let me see
[04:29] <exspecto> archangel: just back up what you need.  the config directories (the ones that start with a period) may not be compatible
[04:29] <Derek> exspecto: ok, booted correctly, now what?
[04:29] <BrendanM> If you want something that looks like a real desktop, give Xfce a try. If it doesn't matter that much to you, fluxbox would be even lighter
[04:29] <exspecto> derek: dunno.  i was just helping you find a program for partitioning.
[04:29] <riotkittie> i keep meaning to give e17 a spin
[04:29] <blueskiesmn> could anyone help me try to figure out why I have sound but no video in 6.06?
[04:29] <Derek> exspecto: lol
[04:29] <exspecto> :)
[04:29] <naphelge> kk kewls can u run any gnome app on either of those?
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> riotkittie: Talk to me or nalioth if you do
[04:29] <exspecto> yes
[04:30] <exspecto> you can run gnome, kde, etc. apps
[04:30] <exspecto> as long as you have their libraries installed
[04:30] <gop> riotkittie:  I uncommented this
[04:30] <naphelge> sounds crazy but never used anything but gnome... well tried kde once but...
[04:30] <gop>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted univer$
[04:30] <gop>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted un$
[04:30] <archangelpetro> and edgy has fewer problems now?
[04:30] <BrendanM> So I'm trying to free up some hard drive space, I've already run apt-get clean, is there anything else I can do? I was thinking about shrinking my swap partition. I noticed it hardly ever gets used
[04:30] <Derek> Anyone, anyone, i need to make a partition w/o data loss
[04:30] <exspecto> i don't like the new gnome very much, but the gnome NetworkManager (wireless) works better than knetworkmanager
[04:30] <archangelpetro> is edgy stable now? (since last time i tried it, i had a lot of crashes )
[04:30] <TheHermit> hi ....Why beryl slowing dowen the system while opening som eapps
[04:31] <TheHermit> apps*
[04:31] <exspecto> and also the gnome power management had more options than kde (like the ability to lock the screen when you close the lid)
[04:31] <BrendanM> Ugh, I want NetworkManager so much, but it doesn't work with Rt61 wifi drivers
[04:31] <exspecto> brendan: try ndiswrapper?
[04:31] <exspecto> i use it and it works fine
[04:32] <BrendanM> I looked at that, but I'm hesitant to start in on it, because my wireless card works fine right now
[04:32] <exspecto> derek: google on "resize partition qtparted"
[04:32] <exspecto> so, it's a matter of removing one module and inserting another
[04:32] <exspecto> rmmod rtblahblahwhater; modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:32] <archangelpetro> exspecto, edgy or dapper?
[04:32] <gop> riotkittie:  do I need to do any thing special in eddgy to get mp3 and dvd support
[04:32] <exspecto> edgy
[04:32] <archangelpetro> ok
[04:33] <exspecto> gop: yes.  try easyubuntu or automatix2
[04:33] <exspecto> google them to find the pages
[04:33] <BrendanM> eh, there's supposed to be a new set of FOSS drivers coming out for Rt61 cards, so I'll just hold out for those
[04:33] <riotkittie> NO. do not venture near automatix.
[04:33] <BrendanM> so how much swap partition do I really need?
[04:33] <TheHermit>  why azureus telling me there is no parser on the system and i cant run the speedscadular on it so any idea ....???!!
[04:33] <exspecto> i said automatix2 :)
[04:33] <kitche> gop: don't bother with either one just install lame for mp3 support and libdvdcss for dvd support
[04:33] <exspecto> hehe
[04:33] <adamonline45> cli is harder than I thought... hehheh
[04:33] <kitche> exspecto: same thing
[04:33] <riotkittie> oh. i missed the 2. is 2 better than 1?
[04:33] <gop> kitche:  how
[04:34] <gop> apt-get install lame
[04:34] <exspecto> i dunno, i was being smarmy
[04:34] <kitche> !lame|gop
[04:34] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[04:34] <kitche> !dvd|gop
[04:34] <ubotu> gop: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:34] <adamonline45> Does anyone know why 'apt-get install thttpd' doesn't work?  I added the universe repository...
[04:34] <BrendanM> For the record, I HATE recursive acronyms. People need to stop using them
[04:34] <naphelge> this is an old laptop i used to own & like a boomerang it seemed to make it's way back to me.... anyhew i am sure i ran RH9 (mebe 7 or 8 can't quite remember) on it with nps... how much extra horse power does anyone think is required to run xubuntu than what it took to run RH9?
[04:35] <exspecto> adam: sudo apt-get update
[04:35] <exspecto> then try it again
[04:35] <BrendanM> I'm convinced part of the reason people don't adopt open-source software is because of the retarded names given to it
[04:35] <exspecto> haha
[04:35] <exspecto> yeah, but at least there's a sense of humor
[04:35] <Eldrani> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu.
[04:35] <adamonline45> exspecto: Cool. looks promising, thanks! =D
[04:35] <BrendanM> who wants to run something called The GIMP?
[04:35] <riotkittie> gop: you may need to poke around in sources again, looks like you just enabled the backport repos.
[04:36] <riotkittie> from what i saw above, at least.
[04:36] <exspecto> i love the gimp! (puts ball gag in mouth)
[04:36] <kitche> BrendanM: it's name is not Gimp though it's just the shorten version of it
[04:36] <Eldrani> I can get the live CD up and going, and start the installer on the desktop, but it resets to computer on the partition step! Please help!
[04:36] <BrendanM> yes, yes, and the long form is even more unweildy
[04:36] <exspecto> gnu image manipulation program
[04:36] <sjust1216> (synaptic:16335): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[04:36] <exspecto> but i think they come up with the acronym first, then figure out the words after
[04:37] <exspecto> that's how i'd do it
[04:37] <sjust1216> has anyone seen this before
[04:37] <Eldrani> Can anyone help?
[04:37] <BrendanM> People wouldn't like "WORD" if it stood for "Word's an Open wRiting Daemon" or something idiotic like that
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[04:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:37] <exspecto> yeah, because it's not Open
[04:37] <exspecto> hehe
[04:37] <riotkittie> names dont phase me. i care about functionality.
[04:38] <exspecto> bitchx is the only one that bugs me
[04:38] <Eldrani> My installer resets the computer when it trys to partition, is there a way to skip the step or something?
[04:38] <BrendanM> Can anyone tell me how big of a swap partition I actually need?
[04:38] <riotkittie> yeah, bitchx is an exception to that ruse
[04:38] <riotkittie> errr rule
[04:38] <BrendanM> It never gets used
[04:38] <riotkittie> BrendanM: how much ram do you have - 128 ?
[04:38] <mathieu> how do i switch my keyboard to spanish outside of gnome ?
[04:38] <ardchoille42> BrendanM, I feel that anything more than 2Gb is a waste of space.
[04:39] <BrendanM> yeah, but I'm upgrading to 380 as soon as it arrives
[04:39] <BrendanM> Um, right now I've got 360 MB of swap, and I want to shrink it
[04:39] <wastrel> bye
[04:39] <ardchoille42> Eldrani, ?
[04:40] <Eldrani> I need help.
[04:40] <riotkittie> mathieu: uhm, i can tell you how to do it temporarily. from the CLI > sudo loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/ AND press tab for more options
[04:40] <ardchoille42> Eldrani, I can try to help
[04:40] <BrendanM> I've only got 6 GB of HDD to play with, and I'd rather not devote any more than I have to to swap
[04:40] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, what kind of computer
[04:40] <Eldrani> My installer keeps restart my computer suring the installation.
[04:40] <exspecto> brendan: so turn that swap partition off
[04:40] <fong> :( hibernate's not working
[04:40] <Eldrani> I use a Win 98.
[04:40] <exspecto> then delete it and create a new one of the size you want, format it, and turn it on
[04:40] <Eldrani> I only have 256 RAM, though.
[04:40] <PORDO> i just got a wi-fi sip phone and it's awesome.
[04:40] <ardchoille42> Eldrani, Are you using the desktop cd to install or the alternate cd?
[04:40] <BrendanM> cool
[04:40] <Eldrani> I load up Ubuntu in safe graphics mode, try to do the installer, and get to the partition step
[04:40] <Eldrani> I'm using the dekstop CD
[04:40] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[04:41] <PORDO> i can take incoming calls free, and make outgoing calls for like 1 per minute at any caf in Seattle.  yay.
[04:41] <Eldrani> 6.06 LTS
[04:41] <ardchoille42> Eldrani, I always had probs with the desktop installer. But I have no probs with the alternate cd installer
[04:41] <riotkittie> oooh oooh wait.
[04:41] <mathieu> riotkittie: i don't see anything spanish loking there
[04:41] <Eldrani> Do I have to install that one and use it?
[04:41] <pbureau> PORDO- so how much that cost you a month
[04:42] <tom47> have there been issues with the latest round of updtes?  eg the ones incl gnome-applets?
[04:42] <ardchoille42> Eldrani, You might want to download the alternate cd for Dapper and install from that, it's faster and has less problems
[04:42] <Eldrani> Because I've already attempted to burn Ubuntu onto 5 disks, I don't wanna go through that again.
[04:42] <exspecto> well, maybe someone can help me next time
[04:42] <exspecto> night all
[04:42] <tom47> Eldrani are you checking the cd's???
[04:42] <Eldrani> yes
[04:42] <riotkittie> mathieu: what kind of spanish layout are you looking for ?  qwerty, qwertz, dvorak... ?
[04:42] <BrendanM> Eldrani, what speed were you burning them at?
[04:42] <Eldrani> It was that they were RW's messed it yp
[04:42] <Eldrani> *up
[04:42] <BrendanM> I've had better luck burning at slower speeds
[04:42] <Eldrani> High, I couldn't change it.
[04:43] <fong> !totem
[04:43] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:43] <tom47> Eldrani are yu downloading via ftp or bittorrrent?
[04:43] <Eldrani> Bittorrent
[04:43] <tom47> ok
[04:43] <BrendanM> Hey, so I've got some biggish (~100 MB) files in my home folder titled core.5271, core.5372, etc
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, did you do an integrity check/?
[04:43] <BrendanM> can I delete those?
[04:43] <Eldrani> Yep, passed it
[04:43] <BrendanM> any idea what they're for?
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, did you try running sudo gparted separately?
[04:44] <ardchoille42> BrendanM, I've never seen those on any of my 11 computers.
[04:44] <Eldrani> Hmm? What's that?
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, its the partition manager
[04:44] <Eldrani> How do I do that?
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, if your computer crashes on that step, might wanna try that
[04:44] <Eldrani> It's part of the install, it does it automatically.
[04:44] <Eldrani> How can I skip it?
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, start a terminal and type sudo gparted
[04:44] <Eldrani> And that'll make the installer skip that step?
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, from lived
[04:44] <ardchoille42> Eldrani, Skip the partitioning step of the installer?
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, no
[04:45] <Eldrani> What'll it do then?
[04:45] <pppoe_dude> but might give some insight
[04:45] <Eldrani> I'll try.
[04:45] <riotkittie> mathieu: try sudo loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/es.kmap.gz
[04:45] <jvai> ty uall..
[04:46] <riotkittie> i *think* there is a dpkg-reconfigure that will change it permanently but i dont remember which dpkg it was :\
[04:46] <mobiGeek> how can i get mod_rewrite for apache2 installed?
[04:46] <Eldrani> Sorry, but how do I open a terminal. xP
[04:46] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, accessories
[04:46] <fong> help
[04:46] <Eldrani> k thanks
[04:46] <fong> i still cant hear any sound!!!!
[04:46] <riotkittie> i set up an alias so i could do it more easily.
[04:46] <ardchoille42> Eldrani, ALT+F2, type in gnome-terminal and click run
[04:47] <charles> hello all
[04:47] <ardchoille42> hi charles
[04:47] <tom47> !hi | charles
[04:47] <ubotu> charles: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:48] <ardchoille42> Gotta love ubotu
[04:48] <charles> ty -- i just began re-learning linux and am certainly enjoying Ubuntu -- excellent distro
[04:48] <Eldrani> What should I do once I got gparted up?
[04:48] <ardchoille42> That it is :)
[04:48] <Eldrani> Do I delete FAT32?
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, do you want to wipe your harddisk clean?
[04:49] <mobiGeek> anyone?  mod_rewrite for apache2?  It doesn't appear to be installed with "apt-get install apache2" (or whatever I ran)
[04:49] <Eldrani> Yeah
[04:49] <riotkittie> Eldrani: eh. do you want to get rid of your win98 install?
[04:49] <Eldrani> I wanna wipe of Win98 and put on Ubuntu
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, did you back up everything?
[04:49] <Eldrani> Theres nothing there. :p
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, do you want to erase everything?
[04:49] <Eldrani> Its just a clean install from like a month ago
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> ok
[04:49] <Eldrani> Nothing I want or need to keep.
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, how big is your harddisk?
[04:50] <Eldrani> But, if I do this, Ubuntu will still do the partition part of the install and crash, wont it?
[04:50] <Eldrani> MY HD is 8GB, i think.
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, might not crash
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, 8gb?
[04:50] <Eldrani> Yeah. :/
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, k then select auto partition
[04:50] <Eldrani> Where?
[04:50] <riotkittie> finally, someone with a hard drive smaller than mine <dances>
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> in the installer
[04:50] <Eldrani> ok
[04:51] <Eldrani> So, delete FAT32 and autopartition?
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, were you selecting manual before?
[04:51] <Eldrani> It wouldn't even load that menu
[04:51] <Eldrani> It would have the percent bar, hit 100% and restart
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, well try and wipe everything if you like and start the installer
[04:51] <Eldrani> Okay.
[04:52] <mobiGeek> found it:   a2enmod rewrite
[04:52] <tom47> Eldrani how much RAM do you have on it?
[04:52] <mobiGeek> this ubuntu thing is not so dumb.
[04:52] <mobiGeek> :-)
[04:52] <pppoe_dude> tom47, 256
[04:52] <tom47> k
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, might want to consider a lighter ubuntu distribution
[04:53] <tom47> he is not OVER-blessed with resources
[04:53] <riotkittie> what processor speed?
[04:54] <MarcC> is it normal to see duplicate processes in the process list of apps like htop?
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> MarcC, not if only one is running
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> MarcC, you mean you see two htops?
[04:55] <fong> somebody help me please... sound's not working:(
[04:55] <shea> is there any way to use standard X11 window geometry strings with gnome apps?   or an equivalent 'modern' way?
[04:55] <fong> !sound
[04:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:56] <pppoe_dude> MarcC, or some random process?
[04:56] <MarcC> pppoe_dude: no, I see like two skypes, three hald-addon-storage's, etc.
[04:56] <gop> kitche how about ident for irc how do I install that
[04:56] <pppoe_dude> MarcC, it is pretty normal to see duplicates of things like ssh, getty, etc
[04:56] <gop> or it
[04:56] <dewm_solo> good evening all
[04:56] <pppoe_dude> MarcC, ah... that kind... not sure about the skype... hald might be ok
[04:56] <joefreire> how to mount image .iso and .img ??
[04:56] <deafboy> What's a good software ripper for linux that rips encrypted dvds?
[04:56] <pppoe_dude> !iso
[04:56] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[04:56] <MarcC> pppoe_dude: thanks, I will look into this further
[04:57] <dewm_solo> Question here: ...i seem to have a blank....what are the console commands to see the mounted disks and the command to see those that aren't?
[04:58] <dabaR> mount sudo fdisk -l
[04:58] <dabaR> split at sudo
[04:58] <mhz> hi all
[04:58] <pppoe_dude> dewm_solo, cat /etc/mtab
[04:58] <dabaR> whats up megaherx
[04:59] <dewm_solo> thanks guys
[04:59] <joefreire> how to mount card SD ?
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> joefreire, should automount
[04:59] <mhz> I have a Sis 661 video card. I have googled, tried different couple of settings on my xorg.conf but still have no idea if it s actually working. How can I tell my config is really effective?
[04:59] <deafboy> Does anyone know of a good dvd ripping software for linux?
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> mhz, what do you mean effective?
[04:59] <joefreire> pppoe_dude,  no funcional
[05:00] <mhz> pppoe_dude: I mean, how can I know it is actually working on my acceleration
[05:00] <KorN[CM] > !dmraid
[05:00] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[05:00] <dewm_solo> pppoe_dude: do you have backup or are you alone under the line of fire? lol
[05:00] <pppoe_dude> mhz, glxinfo |grep renderer
[05:00] <|Jason8|> Disk manager hates me :(
[05:00] <joefreire> pppoe_dude, in card write/reader and my cam
[05:01] <tom47> marc thats interesting i have two skype processes too
[05:01] <x2mjokada> !repositories
[05:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:01] <iwarp62> deafboy, AcidRip works well for me
[05:01] <pppoe_dude> mhz, that will let you know if its hardware or software acceleration
[05:01] <mhz> pppoe_dude: okis, I get this:  OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:01] <deafboy> iwarp62: it doesn't do encrypted dvds though? or for me it won't anyway
[05:02] <joefreire> pppoe_dude, dont works
[05:02] <pppoe_dude> joefreire, try typing dmesg after turning on your camera + making sure cables hooked and paste ending into a pastebin
[05:03] <mhz> joefreire: you could also run: tail -f /var/log/messages                  That will show you some info once you plug in your camera/device
[05:03] <pppoe_dude> mhz, iirc that means there is no hardware acceleration
[05:03] <mhz> pppoe_dude: meaning my .conf sucks ?
[05:03] <mhz> :)
[05:03] <pppoe_dude> mhz, not necessarily
[05:04] <gop> does eddgy comes with barly
[05:04] <gop> preinstalled
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[05:04] -uxfxgyjac:#ubuntu- WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS!
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[05:04] <pppoe_dude> mhz, might mean you are using the wrong driver or just a different config
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[05:04] <pppoe_dude> !ops
[05:04] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:04] -lesbiansta:#ubuntu- WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS!
[05:04] -lesbiansla:#ubuntu- WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS!
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[05:04] <KorN[CM] > ban that mofo!
[05:04] -lesbiansta:#ubuntu- WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS!
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[05:04] <lesbiansnu> !ops
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[05:04] -lesbiansnu:#ubuntu- WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS! WE'RE LESBIANS!
[05:05] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: that was silly, i didnt kickban the guys.
[05:05] <Hobbsee> hey BearPerson
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> haha complete randomness
[05:05] <[SilverFox] > lmao
[05:05] <Hobbsee> they've quit, anyway
[05:05] <[SilverFox] > i was playing wow and i was hearing tons of beeping
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> mhz, might mean you are using the wrong driver
[05:05] <[SilverFox] > !ops
[05:05] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:05] <mhz> pppoe_dude: i see
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> mhz, which driver are you using?
[05:05] <binarydigit> "i love lesbians" - ali g
[05:05] <[SilverFox] > lol
[05:05] <Hobbsee> [SilverFox] : what?
[05:05] <nalioth> SiliconViper: um, we see what is going on
[05:05] <elkbuntu> well at least they're not ashamed of their identity ;)
[05:05] <[SilverFox] > im going afk
[05:06] <crimsun> [SilverFox] : that's unnecessary.
[05:06] <mhz> pppoe_dude: unfortunatelly  I am  very ignorant on acceleration stuff
[05:06] <mhz> pppoe_dude: the hardware is Sis 661
[05:07] <pppoe_dude> mhz, in xorg.conf, what do you have beside 'driver' under 'device'
[05:07] <mhz> pppoe_dude: driver :  Driver          "sis"
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> mhz, do you have load glx, load dri in the beginning?
[05:08] <pppoe_dude> mhz, also are you having any problems or are you just curious?
[05:09] <ToHellWithGA> virtualbox is freeze!
[05:09] <ToHellWithGA> do any of yall have expertise in recovering frozen virtualbox images?
[05:11] <Eldrani> Still didn't work.
[05:11] <Eldrani> It still froze at the same spot.
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, it freezes?
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> or reboots
[05:11] <Eldrani> Reboots.
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> i would suggest you try and use the alternate cd
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> otherwise, it could be a hardware issue
[05:12] <Eldrani> Would that solve it?
[05:12] <Eldrani> I doubt it's hardware...
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, might solve it
[05:12] <Eldrani> Alright, I'll torrent it now.
[05:13] <KorN[CM] > hi can anyone help me with dmraid
[05:13] <KorN[CM] > I've read the tuts, etc.
[05:13] <KorN[CM] > i uninstalled it/reinstalled
[05:13] <ardchoille42> All those people attacking #ubuntu just proves Ubuntu is popular :)
[05:13] <Eldrani> Which version worked for you, ppope?
[05:13] <KorN[CM] > now nothing shows in /dev/mapper ):
[05:13] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, normal
[05:13] <KorN[CM] > /dev/sde: via, "via_dgchcaigfd", stripe, ok, 586072367 sectors, data@ 0
[05:13] <KorN[CM] > /dev/sdf: via, "via_dgchcaigfd", stripe, ok, 586072367 sectors, data@ 0
[05:13] <Faust-C> ardchoille42: yeah sure believe that
[05:13] <KorN[CM] > but I got those showing when I do dmraid -r
[05:14] <Asl[a] n> !evolution
[05:14] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[05:14] <Eldrani> Ugh, no one's seeding it! It's gonna take a day!
[05:15] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, why not get it from servers?
[05:15] <mhz> pppoe_dude: well, based on http:/http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart2.shtml
[05:15] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, not like theres congestion or anything
[05:15] <Eldrani> Okay
[05:15] <Eldrani> Someone last night told me FTP gave otu bad files.
[05:15] <Eldrani> OH, here we go, 1 hour. xP
[05:15] <Faust-C> Eldrani: man you can md5 them ya know
[05:15] <pppoe_dude> Eldrani, there are mirrors
[05:15] <Asl[a] n> how can i configure evolution to work with gmail? k, there's ssl encryption, pop/smtp.gmail.com and i just click on the 'check for supported authentication types'.
[05:15] <Eldrani> I know you can, and I did
[05:15] <Faust-C> Asl[a] n: dude
[05:16] <Asl[a] n> what else do i have to do? use the full email address for username?
[05:16] <Faust-C> Asl[a] n: gmail's help tells you how
[05:16] <Eldrani> I md5'd them and everything, still corrupt a bunch of CDs
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> mhz, are you having problems?
[05:16] <Faust-C> Asl[a] n: assign the right ports
[05:16] <Eldrani> be back in 45-ish minutes.
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> mhz, try glxgears see if your cpu usage goes considerably higher
[05:16] <Asl[a] n> for evolution? really? last time i checked it wasnt there. ok, will check in then. thanks.
[05:16] <Faust-C> Asl[a] n: yeah its there i use it for 2 accounts w/ gmail
[05:16] <x2mjokada> !nvidia
[05:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:17] <mhz> pppoe_dude: yeah, it does go crazy
[05:17] <pppoe_dude> mhz, and does glxgears get choppy then?
[05:17] <ardchoille42> I followed the tutorial for nvidia drivers ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ), what do I need to do if I get a new kernel?
[05:17] <Hansel> nothing tra la la
[05:18] <Asl[a] n> i think you need the restricted drivers and headers (?)
[05:18] <ardchoille42> Asl[a] n, Ok, I"m pretty sure those would be inthe repos
[05:19] <KorN[CM] > anyone?
[05:19] <Asl[a] n> KorN[CM] , yo're going to get !anyone
[05:19] <Asl[a] n> any moment now
[05:19] <KorN[CM] > !anyone
[05:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:19] <Faust-C> Asl[a] n: look into gmailfs too btw
[05:19] <KorN[CM] > I was trying not to spam :P
[05:19] <Asl[a] n> gave it to yaself eh? :P
[05:19] <ardchoille42> lol
[05:19] <Faust-C> Asl[a] n: youll be pleasetly surprised w/ what you can do w/ gmail
[05:20] <Asl[a] n> yeah, i've heard of it too. Faust-C - but its no good when your ADSL provider gives you an upstream/downstream speed of 4/15 at most.
[05:20] <Quintin> If I microwave my cappuchino tomorrow morning.. will it still be tasty?
[05:21] <Faust-C> Asl[a] n: well sucks to be you especialy when you trying to run linux on that
[05:21] <Faust-C> well ive had my laughs for the moment later noobs
[05:21] <dabaR> Quintin: yes
[05:21] <Asl[a] n> Faust-C, - not really. I have a friend in the ISP who downloads for me all the packages using the .sh script generated by synaptic
[05:21] <shifty> haha got in
[05:21] <shifty> finally
[05:21] <shifty> :o
[05:21] <Asl[a] n> all he has to do is run wget -i file.sh
[05:21] <x2mjokada> hey guys what's the name of that command that gives me the kernel version and all that
[05:22] <x2mjokada> it's 'u' something
[05:22] <Asl[a] n> and voila, i've got about 2GBs of packages in my /va/cache/apt/archives even now
[05:22] <Quintin> dabaR: ty <3
[05:22] <x2mjokada> I think
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> x2mjokada: uname -r
[05:22] <rredd4> uname =a
[05:22] <rredd4> -a
[05:22] <x2mjokada> there you go! thanks tonyyarusso
[05:22] <x2mjokada> thanks rredd4
[05:22] <rredd4> yw
[05:24] <pppoe_dude> Quintin, not likely
[05:24] <turbolover> hey how come ubuntu wont let me format my slave hd? it sees it, just wont let me format it
[05:24] <Quintin> pppoe_dude: ?!??!?!?  :-S
[05:24] <Quintin> turbolover: how are you trying to format it?
[05:24] <turbolover> through disks in system menu
[05:24] <pppoe_dude> Quintin, cappuccino is more than just a cappuccino... it has a freshness ingredient to it
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> turbolover, is it mounted?
[05:25] <Quintin> pppoe_dude: well.. will it taste 'good enough'?
[05:25] <turbolover> yes
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> turbolover, you have to unmount first
[05:25] <Quintin> turbolover: don't think you can format mounted drives.
[05:25] <turbolover> eh device is busy
[05:25] <turbolover> wonder what its so busy doing
[05:26] <turbolover> wont let me unmount
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> turbolover, is it your /home or / partition?
[05:27] <Quintin> turbolover: you probably have a file browser window open
[05:27] <turbolover> ooh yay now it works
[05:27] <turbolover> so
[05:28] <turbolover> should i go wit good ole ext3 or reiserfs
[05:28] <turbolover> i never knew they named a filesystem after the great comedian paul reiser
[05:28] <Quintin> turbolover: doesn't matter.
[05:29] <turbolover> hmm, guess that wasnt funny
[05:29] <x2mjokada> hey guys i went to the nvidia driver isntalling wiki page ubotu gave me but it seems outdated, is it?
[05:29] <pppoe_dude> turbolover, ext3 would be what id recommend
[05:29] <x2mjokada> !botsnack
[05:29] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:29] <x2mjokada> !mencoder
[05:29] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[05:30] <Quintin> turbolover: ext3 is more stable.  reiser is probably slightly faster for some things
[05:30] <seventypercent> turbolover: oh, sure, you love paul reiser, but everybody forgets how slimy he was in "aliens"
[05:31] <turbolover> didnt he get eaten in it? i cant remember
[05:31] <turbolover> ohw ait he never go tanywhere near them
[05:31] <ziquantoma> hi, would someone help me out with a video card issue?
[05:32] <dabaR> ziquantoma: provide some information about it, please.
[05:32] <seventypercent> i can't remember -- i think he got implanted like the rest of them
[05:33] <rredd4> x2mjokada  try typing nvidia in the wiki search box from the ubuntu home page
[05:33] <Eldrani> Alright, burning the alternate instal disk now.
[05:33] <seventypercent> however, back on topic, i'd agree with pppoe_dude and choose ext3 over reiser
[05:33] <turbolover> yeah, i guess he felt the need to keep up with all the young hollywood starlets so he could find work, getting implanted and all
[05:33] <x2mjokada> rredd4, yeah, What I meant was that I went to that page, but it seems kind of, nevermind, thanks anyways
[05:33] <ziquantoma> i was trying to play around with compiz and i changed some nvidia drivers. was told to reboot and now I see nothing on boot.
[05:33] <Quintin> ziquantoma: ctrl + alt + f1 and fix it
[05:34] <ziquantoma> by see nothing i mean monitor has no signal
[05:36] <rredd4> ziquantoma  boot from a live cd.. then change drivers?
[05:37] <x2mjokada> guys, what's the parameter to glxgears to show the fps?
[05:37] <ziquantoma> live cd doesn't work... still can't see what's going on
[05:37] <Quintin> x2mjokada: my glxgears shows it automatically
[05:37] <Quintin> ziquantoma: check cables.  change vid card
[05:37] <x2mjokada> Quintin, mine doesn't, that's why I
[05:37] <x2mjokada> 'am asking
[05:37] <bootleg> hey guys
[05:37] <tannerld> could someone help me? I just installed ubuntu on a new computer and the sound does not work
[05:37] <bootleg> i'm thinking of installing ubuntu on this system
[05:38] <bootleg> its a core 2 duo 6300 with a x850 platinum edition video card
[05:38] <rredd4> ziquantoma  yeah what Quintin says
[05:38] <bootleg> because i'm going to start trying to get cisco rotuers soon and do networking
[05:38] <bootleg> would ubuntu have any probelsm recognizing my router or my hardware?
[05:38] <bootleg> problems*
[05:38] <bootleg> and not router.. i meant modem
[05:38] <rredd4> ziquantoma  it should boot ok from a live cd
[05:38] <bootleg> ?
[05:38] <x2mjokada> gnomefreak, are you there
[05:38] <rredd4> ziquantoma  and you should see video
[05:38] <ziquantoma> it probably is booting, just can't see it
[05:39] <rredd4> yes we are here
[05:39] <turbolover> boot: uh, it doenst have to "recognize the routers" if your routers work properly, a router is a standalone thingamajig
[05:39] <turbolover> doh
[05:39] <turbolover> disregard
[05:39] <bootleg> i dont mean router
[05:39] <bootleg> i corrected myself
[05:39] <bootleg> i meant modem
[05:39] <rredd4> ziquantoma  check cables... vid card.. do you have windows?  boot into that to see if it works
[05:39] <x2mjokada> !beryl
[05:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:39] <_Archangel> my X server isn't set up correctly. what is the lib package i need to make sure is installed ?
[05:39] <KillingG> Does NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 support WPA "out of the box"? Or do I need wpa_supplicant?
[05:40] <turbolover> arch: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:40] <bootleg> and um.. would a gigabyte motherboard work right away
[05:40] <bootleg> or would ubuntu recognize the cd software?
[05:40] <ziquantoma> rredd4 i can't see bios or boot menu :(
[05:40] <turbolover> boot: only one way to find that out :)
[05:40] <bootleg> well like
[05:40] <ziquantoma> checking cables and trying onboard videocard again :/
[05:40] <bootleg> on windows, my ethernet port doesnt activate until i install the mb cd
[05:41] <oem> list
[05:41] <rredd4> ziquantoma  is your vid card agp or direct connect to the mother board?
[05:41] <bootleg> so that means i have to install it i guess... and it would install it in random directories if i aws using ubuntu
[05:41] <ziquantoma> rredd4 pci express
[05:41] <Okiesmokie> Hmm, is it bad that in /sbin/lspci, it doesn't specifically show an Ethernet Controller:, but instead a "00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)" ?  (The connection is not working)
[05:41] <_Archangel> it's a gmd issue ?
[05:41] <_Archangel> how do i close an x seaaion so i can reboot it ?
[05:41] <_Archangel> x session
[05:42] <ziquantoma> rredd4 it worked fine until i switched to legacy drivers
[05:42] <rredd4> ziquantoma  your monitor says "no video signal"?
[05:42] <bootleg> btw, is there any hardware to boost your net speed? =\, i want 10mb upload.. or are there any decently priced ways to get 10mb upload
[05:42] <bootleg> or atleast 5 mb
[05:42] <ziquantoma> rredd4 correct
[05:42] <ardchoille42> _Archangel, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:42] <KorN[CM] > can anyone help me with raid
[05:42] <KorN[CM] > cause I've read the tutorials
[05:42] <ivanhoe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gukit-X75_U
[05:42] <KorN[CM] > still not working, dmraid is not working ):
[05:42] <rredd4> ziquantoma  ok your monitor is ok.. may vid card took a dive
[05:42] <ivanhoe> its a good video
[05:42] <ivanhoe> from ubuntu
[05:43] <ivanhoe> its in spanish but
[05:43] <ivanhoe> its good
[05:43] <bootleg> whats it for
[05:43] <ivanhoe> if you want to translate or subtitulate
[05:43] <ivanhoe> its a googd choice
[05:43] <rredd4> ziquantoma  its not getting vertical, horizontal, video info from the vid card
[05:43] <shatrat> bootleg: If you want to increase your network bandwidth the only way is to give more $$$ to your ISP
[05:43] <rredd4> ziquantoma  got another one?
[05:44] <ziquantoma> rredd4 no, just the integrated one
[05:44] <rredd4> ziquantoma  so you have a pci card and the mother board one, correct?
[05:45] <ziquantoma> rredd4 correct
[05:45] <rredd4> ziquantoma have you removed the pci card and tried the mother board card yet?
[05:45] <ziquantoma> rredd4 i have
[05:45] <ziquantoma> rredd4 no luck:(
[05:46] <rredd4> ziquantoma hmmm
[05:46] <rredd4> ziquantoma can't see why changing nvidia drivers would kill a vid card tho
[05:46] <ziquantoma> rredd4 i don't know if this is related but also when i try to power off by hitting the button, it restarts rather than turns off
[05:46] <bootleg> My Chemical Romance - 04 - You Know What They Do To Guys Like Us In Prison
[05:47] <shifty> o.o
[05:47] <rredd4> ziquantoma which button?
[05:47] <ziquantoma> rredd4 power button on box
[05:47] <rredd4> ziquantoma you have to hold it in for a few seconds
[05:48] <ziquantoma> rredd4 i know..
[05:48] <hope13> what program do i install to use .rar?
[05:48] <rredd4> ziquantoma do you have another monitor to try?
[05:48] <Pici> Hm.. is there a command I could use to tell me what process is using /dev/dsp?
[05:48] <bootleg> does ubuntu take like no cpu resources?
[05:48] <YeaSt> rar
[05:48] <ziquantoma> rredd4 yes i will try that now
[05:48] <rredd4> k
[05:49] <hope13> rar?
[05:49] <YeaSt>  yep
[05:49] <bootleg> i see ppl runnin wow, firefox, movies and music + more
[05:49] <KorN[CM] > still not working, dmraid is not working ):
[05:49] <KorN[CM] > eh this is killing me
[05:49] <Quintin> bootleg:  ... ?
[05:49] <KorN[CM] > damn dmraid
[05:49] <bootleg> i see ppl runnin wow, firefox, movies and music + more..
[05:49] <YeaSt> just search the rar for ubuntu
[05:49] <Quintin> bootleg: you can do that on a Pentium II with 128m ram
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | KorN[CM]
[05:49] <ubotu> KorN[CM] : Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:49] <hope13> so sudo apt-get install rar?
[05:49] <bootleg> i hace a 6300 c2d
[05:49] <KorN[CM] > !ohmy e
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy e - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <YeaSt> i am not sure
[05:49] <bootleg> is ubuntu that mch better then windows?
[05:49] <Quintin> bootleg: define "better"
[05:50] <YeaSt> but you can download the package and install it
[05:50] <kamiro87> HEllo, i am having a bizzare problem playing video. All the sound effects and music plays correctly but the speech is all distorted.
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> bootleg: Depends who you ask ;)  Join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please.
[05:50] <hope13> doesn't work lol
[05:50] <kamiro87> this is for every single file ive tryed to play
[05:50] <YeaSt> you already tried?
[05:50] <hope13> i've tried searching for it
[05:51] <YeaSt> ok, if you like you can give me your email add, i can mail you one
[05:51] <turbolover> sudo apt-get install the-internet
[05:51] <erpo> How can I limit the rate at which the ssh/scp/sftp server on my machine will upload?
[05:52] <x2mjokada> !azureus
[05:52] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:52] <hope13> naw
[05:52] <YeaSt> ?
[05:53] <hope13> i'll just go home and unrar it on a window machine
[05:53] <YeaSt> ok, go ahead
[05:54] <bootleg> ok sorry i'm done eating now
[05:54] <turbolover> boot: just get a mac
[05:54] <bootleg> ok, like in windows lets say playing cs source and alt tabbing lags for me on my c2d
[05:54] <bootleg> oops ill go to off topic
[05:54] <_Archangel> that didn't work
[05:54] <Goldmen> Is ubuntu's boot time usually faster than xp?
[05:54] <_Archangel> it's locking my computer up when it fails to load xserver
[05:54] <deafboy> Is there any linux app out there that allows copying of encrypted dvds?
[05:54] <erpo> Goldmen: On my laptop it is.
[05:54] <Quintin> deafboy: use dvdshrink
[05:54] <bootleg> alright
[05:55] <bootleg> but on ubuntu, when i see people using beryl
[05:55] <bootleg> they have like 2 movise on 1 screen
[05:55] <deafboy> quintin: I'm looking for a native linux app
[05:55] <bootleg> WoW on the other
[05:55] <bootleg> and etc.
[05:55] <ardchoille42> deafboy, http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net
[05:55] <hope13> ah i got it
[05:55] <hope13> thx again
[05:55] <Quintin> deafboy: keep looking
[05:55] <bootleg> so does that mean ubuntu uses less resources? or runs programs better or something
[05:55] <bootleg> and windows is just plain garbage
[05:55] <deafboy> so acid rip doesn't do encrypted dvs?
[05:55] <ardchoille42> deafboy, But, you'll need to have libdvdcss2 installed to copy encrypted DVD's.
[05:55] <Falstius> Goldmen: the time from boot until ubuntu is usable is less then for windows (windows is generally useless for a minute or more after logging in)
[05:56] <ziquantoma> rredd4 no signal from either video card - that was using the same cable though, i'll switch those out next
[05:56] <bootleg> not if you use msconfig correclty o_O or have a good processor
[05:56] <rredd4> ziquantoma ok
[05:56] <ardchoille42> deafboy, The apps themselves don't do the decrypting, they call libdvdcss2 to do that.  In component universe, is extra.     If you have an ISO image, that's a picture of exactly how the disc should be.  Use a burning program to burn the image.  Don't try to extract files from it.
[06:02] <rredd4> ziquantoma  ok... you tried diff cable then and now you get random success?
[06:02] <riotkittie> kumbiyah my loooooord, kumbiyah...
[06:02] <Falstius> bootleg: that depends on your drive, your cds and your software.  There's no way anyone here could tell you what speed you should use.
[06:02] <bootleg> i dont have an iso... zzz..
[06:02] <ziquantoma> rredd4  new monitor new cable... now i need to find what to change
[06:02] <deafboy> ardchoille42: i have libdvdcss2 installed but neither Dvd::Rip or AcidRip can do anything, NOTE: this is NEW copy protection
[06:03] <bootleg> god dude
[06:03] <rredd4> ziquantoma  cool  at least you have vid
[06:03] <bootleg> nommater where you go on the internet, there are always morons cramping every corner -.-
[06:03] <ardchoille42> deafboy, Then I don't know.
[06:03] <riotkittie> errr. if you dont have an iso, what do you have -- are you sure that its not an iso? perhaps winrar has associated itself with ISOs?
[06:03] <Quintin> bootleg: What do you have then?  The releases are ISO9660 disc images.
[06:03] <bootleg> can't even read the things i say
[06:03] <bootleg> um
[06:03] <riotkittie> i cant see why someone would RAR an iso
[06:03] <bootleg> well.. does winrar allow you to automatically extract isos?
[06:03] <riotkittie> but eh. ><
[06:04] <Quintin> bootleg: and you are calling people here stupid.  >.<
[06:04] <Quintin> amazing.
[06:04] <deafboy> ardchoille42: it's probably because it's a very new movie, i heard even the famed dvd decrypter has problems iwth new movies
[06:04] <bootleg> how am i stupid...?
[06:04] <riotkittie> you dont need to extract the ISO. just burn the disc image
[06:04] <bootleg> omgawd i use winrar so much
[06:04] <bootleg> well i don't have an iso
[06:04] <bootleg> i have a .rar
[06:04] <Okiesmokie> Is there anyone here who has experience with not having an internet connection with a "nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)", and could shed some light on my problem?
[06:04] <Quintin> bootleg: where did you get it from?
[06:04] <bootleg> the site
[06:04] <riotkittie> which site?
[06:04] <bootleg> ill giev you the link
[06:04] <bootleg> ubuntu official
[06:04] <riotkittie> dude. there is no way you downloaded a rar from ubuntu.com
[06:04] <bootleg> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download#
[06:05] <Falstius> bootleg: somehow I don't think they're started distributing proprietary rar files from the ubuntu site :)
[06:05] <riotkittie> i cant imagine them going wiht a ... Falstius beat me too it
[06:05] <bootleg> ok.. then i guess winrar automatically is showing it on my desktop as a rar but its really an iso
[06:05] <riotkittie> bootleg: yeah sometimes, WinRAR will associate itself with ISOs
[06:06] <seravitae> yawn
[06:06] <riotkittie> burn the image to disc and you'll be fine.
[06:06] <bootleg> ok, i asked that earlier, and some guy was like "are you an idiot"
[06:06] <bootleg> thanks for the help riotkittie
[06:06] <arrenlex> bootleg: Ignore the jerks :) There's a few everywhere.
[06:06] <Falstius> oh, they do have DVDs for Edgy.  I wonder what the fill them with.
[06:06] <arrenlex> Falstius: Packages.
[06:06] <arrenlex> Falstius: And sweet caramel goodness.
[06:06] <shatrat> both installers and some extra packages are on the DVD
[06:07] <fn1> I'm planning to move on to 64-bit kernel. Does anyone know how good Ubuntu support 64-bit processor ? Are there the equivalent 64bit packages as 32bit packages ?
[06:07] <Falstius> mmm ... rollos
[06:07] <Brady_M> I need a good suggested video editor to use in ubuntu.
[06:07] <Quintin> fn1: expect headaches
[06:07] <bootleg> yay, burning at 62x
[06:07] <ardchoille42> deafboy, Well, someone from the Linux community will have an app out to decrypt it soon :)
[06:07] <frogzoo_> fn1: unless you're running a server, you're best off with the 32
[06:07] <bootleg> don't want to go maximum
[06:07] <varsendaggr> Brady_M, Blender
[06:07] <erpo> Brady_M: All are bad. Kino is the best one I've seen.
[06:07] <mikejanssen> what = best ipod app for ubuntu...
[06:07] <erpo> mikejanssen: gtkpod
[06:07] <shatrat> fn1, yes, you can get most any packagegs as 64 bit, the problem is that theres no 64 bit Flash plugin and a lot of other things, so you have to fiddle around with chrooted 32 bit environments and stuff.  Its a lot of trouble
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> !ipod | mikejanssen
[06:08] <ubotu> mikejanssen: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:08] <mikejanssen> got it
[06:08] <bootleg> hey guys, one more question.
[06:08] <mikejanssen> how to work it
[06:08] <mikejanssen> heh
[06:08] <arrenlex> bootleg: There are no drives which will go up to 62x because at that speed CDs might burst apart. Even 52x is considered dangerous, which is why they sold a few such drives and then stopped.
[06:08] <fn1> Quintin, frogzoo: I'm running my personal LAMP server, if there're not quite a few problems, I can cope with it. It's good experimentation anyway.
[06:08] <bootleg> will ubuntu allow me to delete partitions at the beggining before installation just like windows?
[06:08] <deafboy> ardchoille42: yeah its Pirates of the Caribbean 2, for some reason it won't go..... but yeah the only thing i've found so far is run Ripit4you in wine
[06:08] <mikejanssen> !rockbox
[06:08] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[06:08] <Brady_M> erpo, does basic editing?
[06:08] <erpo> Brady_M: Kino does, yes.
[06:08] <frogzoo_> bootleg: choose manual partition setup
[06:08] <shatrat> fn1, if you're just messing around and you wont be getting much binary only software you might as well, im sure youll learn a lot.
[06:08] <Brady_M> I'll check it out
[06:09] <bootleg> ok
[06:09] <ziquantoma> rredd4 you still there?
[06:09] <rredd4> ziquantoma  yes
[06:09] <erpo> mikejanssen: Click load. Drag and drop. Click save.
[06:09] <fn1> shatrat: I see, apart from the lack of binary 64bit packages, is there any other problems ?
[06:09] <bootleg> because i want to delete all of this windows installation when i install ubuntu
[06:09] <dabaR> !rar-free
[06:09] <Quintin> bootleg: yes it will
[06:09] <bootleg> thanks for the help
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rar-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Falstius> deafboy: is it hddvd/bluray?  I don't know how they could change DVD encryption now (it would break all the DVD players).
[06:09] <KorN[CM] > checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:09] <KorN[CM] > See `config.log' for more details.
[06:09] <ziquantoma> rredd4 i got past the boot screen and now i have an error msg "failed to start the X server"
[06:09] <KorN[CM] > can someone help me with that error?
[06:09] <arrenlex> KorN[CM] : Install build-essential
[06:09] <bootleg> if "the data was successfully written" i'm fine right? xd
[06:09] <shatrat> fn1, nothing I can think of off the top of my head, although I run 32 bit myself so that I dont have to mess with getting a 32 bit browser for flash, et cetera
[06:10] <deafboy> Falstius: nope regular dvd, but i know sony uses some bull shit encryption now AcroSS or something?
[06:10] <rredd4> ziquantoma  please ask in the room to get help with that one.. sorry
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | deafboy
[06:10] <ubotu> deafboy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:10] <erpo> ArcCoS
[06:10] <glyn> hey, got a quick question for anyone who retained their knowledge about earlier versions of Ubuntu
[06:10] <glyn> what kind of webcam programs can I use with Hoary?
[06:10] <bootleg> time to reboot and install lovely ubuntu
[06:10] <bootleg> I CANT WAIT! xd
[06:10] <jimmy20013> Anybody here using Ypops?
[06:10] <shasan> howdy, needing some help with selecting partition option. i'm installing ubuntu on my external drive that already has a partition on it with a little bit of (important) data. if i tell ubuntu to resize my drive and to use free space, will i lose my data?
[06:10] <shatrat> !webcam|glyn
[06:10] <ubotu> glyn: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> glyn: I think Kopete probably works, but, um, ew.  You are aware Hoary is EOL, right?
[06:11] <ziquantoma> hello could someone help me with an error msg on boot - "failed to start the X server"
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > arrenlex
[06:11] <glyn> EOL?
[06:11] <fn1> shatrat: I'm compiling the kernel now, but am wondering if I just installed the kernel onto an existing 32bit Ubuntu installation, that would break a lot of applications. Better to get a clean installation I guess ?
[06:11] <Quintin> shasan: very possibly.  make a backup
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > I get all kinds of errors when I run that
[06:11] <shatrat> shasan, probably not. Ive never lost anything that way.  YOu should defrag it first though, if it is a windows drive
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> glyn: End of Life.  No more security updates.
[06:11] <frogzoo_> shatrat: if that partition is ntfs, there's a good chance resizing you'll lose your data
[06:11] <varsendaggr> hey i have a computer what cannot get internet acess....   how can i manually get the debs that i want.
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[06:11] <deafboy> ardchoille42: do you ever use k9copy? i think that only rips iso's......
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > libc-dev
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > broken packages
[06:11] <arrenlex> !topic | KorN[CM]
[06:11] <ubotu> KorN[CM] : Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[06:11] <glyn> Oh, yeah..I know that
[06:11] <shasan> ok, but the best bet is to just make a backup then hope it all works?
[06:11] <glyn> I would upgrade but my compaq has an internal CD ROM drive that doesn't work
[06:11] <KorN[CM] > !topic
[06:11] <arrenlex> KorN[CM] : (particularly at the end)
[06:11] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[06:11] <mneptok> shasan: yes. the Ubuntu partitioning tools are destructive when creating or resizing
[06:11] <bur[n] er> varsendaggr: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <ardchoille42> deafboy, I don't use KDE apps. Is that DVD Blueray or HD DVD?
[06:12] <shasan> alright, thanks for your help. wish me luck
[06:12] <Falstius> deafboy: they wikipedia article on arccos mentions that pirates 2 has it, and gives a list of windows rippers that will read it.
[06:12] <KorN[CM] > !topic broken packages
[06:12] <Dave>  /topic
[06:12] <deafboy> ardchoille42: nope, so xdvdshrink is what you use?
[06:12] <arrenlex> KorN[CM] : Nevermind.
[06:12] <rredd4> ziquantoma  maybe you should do xorg reconfig?
[06:12] <KorN[CM] > eh arrenlex im lost
[06:12] <arrenlex> KorN[CM] : Have you run apt-get update recently?
[06:12] <ardchoille42> deafboy, YEs, it has never failed me :)
[06:12] <shatrat> fn1, You are correct, I dont think you can just pop in a 64 bit kernel if youve got all 32 bit libs and apps.
[06:12] <KorN[CM] > um not sure
[06:12] <KorN[CM] > should I?
[06:12] <deafboy> Falstius: yeah i just wish i knew a native linux ripper that did it :P
[06:12] <ziquantoma> rredd4 i have to figure out how to get to a place to edit it
[06:12] <arrenlex> shatrat: You can and I've done it.
[06:13] <shatrat> arrenlex, Doesnt it kidn of defeat the point though, if everything that runs on it is 32 bit?
[06:13] <rredd4> ziquantoma  control alt f2?
[06:13] <fn1> shatrat: Thanks a lot, I'll go get the alternate CD.
[06:13] <arrenlex> shatrat: Provided your processor is 64-bit. In fact, generic might provide that. I dunno.
[06:13] <deafboy> Falstius: Acid Rip and DvD::Rip both fail, i used RipIt4U (windows app)
[06:13] <rredd4> ziquantoma  then log in
[06:13] <ziquantoma> rredd4 oh yes, thank you
[06:13] <arrenlex> shatrat: The purpose of 64-bit? There is none for a desktop PC. You will not notice a speed difference under desktop use.
[06:13] <KorN[CM] > just did it, no updates
[06:14] <shatrat> deafboy, ripit4me runs in wine, or so I've read
[06:14] <arrenlex> shatrat: Having a 64-bit kernel allows you to run 64-bit executables, provided you have the right 64-bit libraries.
[06:14] <rredd4> ziquantoma  select nv
[06:14] <Falstius> arrenlex: unless you have like 16GB of ram
[06:14] <ardchoille42> deafboy, Oh, ARccOS is by Sony. I refuse to use/buy/rent/etc anything from Sony.
[06:14] <deafboy> shatrat: yeah, i just wust hate having to do that lol
[06:14] <ziquantoma> rredd4 i dont spend much time out of the window system, can i use gedit here?
[06:14] <Flannel> arrenlex: yes there is.  It allows you to have more than 4gb, and if you do any really heavy graphics processing, you get a performance boost
[06:14] <deafboy> ardchoille42: i have a ps3 :P
[06:14] <fn1> arrenlex: There will be speed different if you compile an app from source.
[06:14] <arrenlex> Falstius: 4+GB, actually. This is why I included "under desktop use" specifically. Servers are a different story, with different memory capacities.
[06:14] <rredd4> ziquantoma  not sure, but don't see why not
[06:15] <frogzoo_> ../11
[06:15] <jimmy20013> I downloaded the Ypops package and I am trying to install it but I get this error ./ypops: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. I have libssl though
[06:15] <arrenlex> fn1: No, there won't be. Not unless that app was optimised for 64-bit when it was written. If you compile with 64-bit flags, you won't get a speed difference, just a different instruction set.
[06:15] <rredd4> whats the command for xorg reconfig?
[06:15] <shatrat> We might as well start getting used to 64 bit though, cell phones are gonna have 8gig of ram in 10 years I bet :)
[06:15] <arrenlex> rredd4: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:15] <SurfnKid> !xgl
[06:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:15] <rredd4> ziquantoma  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <frogzoo_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <rredd4> ziquantoma  do that
[06:16] <ziquantoma> rredd4 can't. what editor should i use
[06:16] <rredd4> ziquantoma  no editor
[06:16] <james296> so, can automatix be trusted just yet or still makes broken files in Ubuntu?
[06:16] <Falstius> shatrat: not unless they come up with a non-volatile ram and use it for storage and memory.
[06:16] <ziquantoma> rred4 okay ill try the command
[06:16] <Flannel> james296: no, automatix is still unsafe
[06:16] <Marupa> what's the proper driver for plain ati cards(no acceleration)
[06:16] <varsendaggr> bur[n] er, hey how do i find the dependencies?
[06:16] <arrenlex> Marupa: ati
[06:16] <rredd4> ziquantoma use sudo
[06:16] <Marupa> danke
[06:16] <KorN[CM] > arrenlex?
[06:17] <arrenlex> Marupa: Why no acceleration? You can try radeon, which will give you acceleration on some supported cards and is also FOSS.
[06:17] <shatrat> Falstius, You just wait, the iphone pico is gonna be able to transcode HD-DVD to Divx and will have a firewire laser tattoo attatchment.
[06:17] <Flannel> !offtopic
[06:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:17] <mikejanssen> wtf...
[06:17] <fn1> arrenlex: Wouldn't the bigger register capacities reduce the need to move temporary data back and forth ?. That's also the compiler's responsiblity to optimize the app for 64bit processors.
[06:17] <james296> cuz I noticed in the changelog it says there are bug fixes in it
[06:17] <ziquantoma> rredd4 okay i'm at a config program
[06:17] <mikejanssen> my ipod isnt recognizing..
[06:17] <Marupa> trying to get someone back on his feet from a screwed up install.
[06:17] <varsendaggr> bur[n] er, nevermind
[06:17] <mikejanssen> its plugged in...but nothing is happening...
[06:17] <arrenlex> KorN[CM] : I dunno, sorry. The repositories have gotten screwed up.
[06:17] <rredd4> ziquantoma great select nv as your driver
[06:17] <ziquantoma> rredd4 interesting.. it was on 'vesa'
[06:17] <rredd4> ziquantoma just ahh
[06:18] <KorN[CM] > haha excellent :P
[06:18] <KorN[CM] > so I need to remove build-install
[06:18] <KorN[CM] > and then add it again?
[06:18] <Eldrani> I need MAJOR help!
[06:18] <Flannel> !ask | Eldrani
[06:18] <ubotu> Eldrani: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:18] <Eldrani> It's my computer.
[06:18] <shatrat> Hah
[06:19] <rredd4> Eldrani duh
[06:19] <Eldrani> I erased FAT32 to try and install Ubuntu according a to person here, and it didn't work...
[06:19] <shifty> yo shat!
[06:19] <rredd4> Eldrani lol
[06:19] <ziquantoma> rredd4 okay it was for bus intentifier.
[06:19] <shatrat> sup shifty
[06:19] <Eldrani> so...
[06:19] <nikin> i have some Qs :D like always :D first.. i have googled a lot for Lightsribe on Edgy.. but AFAIHS there are just some realy terrible workarounds for that. Anyone knows a better way?
[06:19] <ziquantoma> rredd4 okay it asks
[06:19] <Flannel> Eldrani: what didn't work?
[06:19] <Eldrani> I'm trying to put windows back on, and it's not working. It isn't reading the start-up floppy.
[06:19] <MotorCityMadMan> will ctrl+C exit man ?
[06:19] <rredd4> ziquantoma ?
[06:19] <ardchoille42> MotorCityMadMan, exit a man page?
[06:19] <MotorCityMadMan> or should it ?
[06:19] <ziquantoma> rredd4 yes?
[06:20] <ziquantoma> rredd4 oh nvm
[06:20] <shatrat> nikin, well, there is a lightscribe application for linux.  I dont have a lightscribe drive though so I havent used it.
[06:20] <Brady_M> Ok, I looking for a video editor, one that supports taking say an image and adding text to it. trying this kino, read a short of it, and it only supports actual video files. Any other one's that might do the trick.
[06:20] <MotorCityMadMan> ardchoille42:yes
[06:20] <ardchoille42> MotorCityMadMan, type a "q"
[06:20] <fn1> Eldrani: You sure that's a valid boot disk and your system is configured to boot up floppy dist first ?
[06:20] <Eldrani> I think so...
[06:20] <ziquantoma> rredd4 should i use kernel framebuffer device interface'?
[06:20] <shatrat> Brady_M, Im sure you can import a still image into kino and use it as a layer.  I am not a big NLE person though so I dont know too much about it.
[06:20] <Eldrani> but right now, NOTHING is on my computer
[06:20] <MotorCityMadMan> ardchoille42: your the mack
[06:21] <bootleg> ok, when i try to install it, it goes all the way to the final little box on the bar that you get after hitting enter on install
[06:21] <Eldrani> I'ts just like a big white void.
[06:21] <eternal_p> evening all...i'm wondering, is there an desktop based RSS news ticker, or something like google desktop for ubuntu, I find gdesklets very limiting
[06:21] <bootleg> and i get a long line underneath it thats blue and green
[06:21] <Brady_M> ok, let me tinker with it more
[06:21] <rredd4> ziquantoma not sure.. please ask ? in the room...
[06:21] <YeaSt>  is there anyone who can tell me how to read the topics in this channel?
[06:21] <bootleg> which like changes the color pattern everytime i hit up or down
[06:21] <Quintin> ziquantoma: no.  never.  ever.
[06:21] <bootleg> anybody know what happened?
[06:21] <nikin> And the other thing what i want, is to set my X server somehow  to just use grayscale
[06:21] <Flannel> YeaSt: /topic usually will do it
[06:21] <shatrat> eteranal_p I believe there are some for superkaramba, but thats a KDE thing
[06:21] <ziquantoma> quintin ok
[06:21] <fn1> Eldrani: AFAIK, Windows XP needs 4 floppy disks to bootup to recovery console, what have you got there ?
[06:21] <YeaSt> thanks, this is the first time using the IRC
[06:22] <bootleg> ok, when i try to install it, it goes all the way to the final little box on the bar that you get after hitting enter on install
[06:22] <bootleg> and i get a long line underneath it thats blue and green
[06:22] <bootleg> anybody know what happened?
[06:22] <Eldrani> It's not XP, just 98
[06:22] <Eldrani> I got all the CDs needed.
[06:22] <rredd4> ziquantoma if i don't know it, i don't want to give you a bad answer
[06:22] <Eldrani> But I start with the floppy, and there isn't even a c drive anymore!
[06:22] <eternal_p> will it run on gnome with all the needed deps/.
[06:22] <Eldrani> brb, gonna try new floppy...
[06:22] <_`XeOn_> hey guys does beryl runs well in a P3 800mhz 256 mb with a video card Nvidia Gforce 5+
[06:22] <_`XeOn_> ?
[06:22] <fn1> Eldrani: The Windows CDs are all bootable.
[06:22] <shatrat> Eldrani, try "fdisk mbr"
[06:22] <nikin> Eldrani: the you have maybe the BIOS not set to boot from floppy
[06:23] <bootleg> anybody know guys? >.>
[06:23] <shatrat> _`XeOn_, it wont run great, but you should be able to run it.  Try asking in #ubuntu-xgl if you have more questions
[06:23] <Flannel> _`XeOn_: #ubuntu-xgl  (or #beryl) for beryl support/questions, thanks.
[06:23] <bootleg> ok, when i try to install it, it goes all the way to the final little box on the bar that you get after hitting enter on install
[06:23] <bootleg> and i get a long line underneath it thats blue and green
[06:23] <ziquantoma> rredd4 understood and thanks. couldn't i just replace xorg with my backup of it
[06:23] <_`XeOn_> Flannel [TNT] ~* thanks
[06:23] <Flannel> bootleg: did you verify the CD?
[06:23] <nikin> Xeon: 256 Mb is not much but the gef 5 will be enough to run it.,.. but it will eat up your system
[06:24] <bootleg> verify?
[06:24] <bootleg> do the check thing
[06:24] <Flannel> bootleg: yes
[06:24] <rredd4> ziquantoma as long as its not the one that started this who mess... lol
[06:24] <bootleg> well i did, and the bar goes all the way
[06:24] <bootleg> and then i see dark blue text
[06:24] <shifty> brb switching to ubuntu
[06:24] <bootleg> which i cant read cause its on top of a black background
[06:24] <shifty> :)
[06:24] <bootleg> =\
[06:24] <ziquantoma> rredd4 think its okay to abort this config program?
[06:24] <bootleg> should i just use a new cd and write it on a lower speed and try again?
[06:24] <Flannel> bootleg: 4x is the suggested speed
[06:24] <rredd4> ziquantoma just complete it...
[06:25] <shatrat> bootleg, did you reboot into windows to join IRC or are you on a different PC and its still sitting there?
[06:25] <bootleg> well the lowest i can go is 15x
[06:25] <Flannel> bootleg: you should be able to push enter after a completed CDcheck to reboot... I don't remember if that happens on failure also though.
[06:25] <bootleg> i'm using infra recorder
[06:25] <bootleg> um yea
[06:25] <bootleg> after i hit enter... my computer reboots
[06:25] <KillingG> Can anyone help me with my Broadcom 4306 Wireless Card? I can iwconfig and it shows "wlan0", and NetworkManager Applet can see several networks; but whenever I select one it doesn't connect.
[06:25] <facugaich> What's the command to run a regex through a file?
[06:25] <Flannel> bootleg: no, it can go to 4x, other people have done it today.  infrarecorder is apparently pretty popular right now.
[06:25] <bootleg> am i just impatient? does the last box when installing ubuntu take a while to load?
[06:25] <shatrat> KillingG, one sec I have a link that might help you
[06:25] <bootleg> or when starting to install
[06:26] <KillingG> Awesome, thanks shatrat.
[06:26] <nikin> Killing: do you have WEP or WPA enableD?
[06:26] <KillingG> I'm pretty sure WPA is enabled.
[06:26] <KillingG> It's one of the options when it asks me for the passphrase
[06:26] <bootleg> alright, will almost be done soon
[06:26] <bootleg> writing new one at 15x
[06:26] <bootleg> if that doesnt work, ill try to somehow do 4x
[06:26] <bootleg> maybe its because i'm using a dvd cd
[06:27] <ziquantoma> rredd4 now can i delete and replace?
[06:27] <nikin> KillinG: note that WPA is a bit difficult to set on UBUNTU
[06:27] <Flannel> bootleg: er, you're burning a CD image on a DVD?  I'm not sure that works.
[06:27] <nikin> !WPA
[06:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:27] <shatrat> KillingG, ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[06:27] <bootleg> why wouldnt it work flannel
[06:27] <shifty> i am back
[06:27] <rredd4> ziquantoma i think so, but ask to be sure
[06:27] <bootleg> ?
[06:27] <shatrat> KillingG, thats broadcom specific, worked for my laptop.
[06:27] <bootleg> hey guys
[06:27] <KillingG> Thanks shatrat.
[06:27] <bootleg> whats fifo
[06:27] <shatrat> first in first out
[06:27] <bootleg> fifo had 11535 puts and 1535 gets
[06:28] <bootleg> fifo was 41 times empty and 3336 times full
[06:28] <bootleg> the data was succesfulyl written to the disc the dsic was succesfully fixated
[06:28] <shatrat> sounds like another word for queue in this case, as in write queue
[06:28] <bootleg> oh ok
[06:28] <bootleg> well i'll go try this new cd i burned... hope it works, thanks for the help again
[06:28] <boredandblogging> is there any documentation that needs a home? I just saw a thread on how the author of "How to install anything in Ubuntu" couldn't maintain it anymore. Just wonder if there was a resource for locating other projects that needed homes.
[06:28] <Brady_M> man, I know so many banging their head with broadcomm. I got 2 guys who come to my store spend awhile tinkering with it. They use ndis wrapper.
[06:29] <ziquantoma> is it safe to delete xorg.conf and replace with backup?
[06:29] <KillingG> I've spent the entire day trying to play around with ndiswrapper and wpa_suppliment. It's crazy.
[06:30] <glyn> hey in regards of the question I asked earlier about Hoary, Kopete doesn't work with webcams
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> ziquantoma: provided the backup is good, yes.
[06:30] <rredd4> ziquantoma see
[06:30] <shatrat> boredandblogging, there is an ubuntu document storage project at doc.gwos.org