[00:00] <glaucous> I'm having some odd problems regarding Kubuntu booting, it was the same last reinstall as well. Three scenarios: 1. After Grub menu the screen is black with an underline character flashing. The keyboard doesn't turn on. 2. The Kubuntu loading screen stops at the last dot. Keyboard turned on. 3. The screen is black after grub, without any loading screen, and keyboard is turned on.
[00:02] <glaucous> Having a hard time debugging this. Most of the time I have to reboot and hope that it'll work out, and sometimes it doesnt
[00:26] <bob_> hello guy =)
[00:32] <blip99> hi, i noticed the session manager only saves some things like Konsole.  any way to make it also save thunderbird ?  or shall I just add that to the startup list ?
[00:42] <henkka-> hey can anyone recommend a lightweight irc client for linux
[00:42] <henkka-> ?
[00:42] <well_laid_lawn> irssi is light
[00:42] <well_laid_lawn> or is that irrsi
[00:43] <Pici> 'irssi'
[00:43] <well_laid_lawn> thnx :]
[00:44] <henkka-> irssi kk =)
[00:46] <henkka-> I did get-apt install irssi
[00:46] <henkka-> sudo get-apt install irssi
[00:46] <henkka-> And it seemed to find the package
[00:46] <henkka-> but i dont know how to start it
[00:46] <henkka-> :D
[00:48] <crashsystems> henkka-: type irssi in the terminal and hit enter
[00:48] <henkka-> ok thx
[00:49] <Pici> See irssi.org or #irssi for further help using it :)
[00:49] <henkka-> =)
[00:50] <crashsystems> I might use irssi if it had spellcheck built in
[00:50] <Surunveri> hi ok I'm henkka- now using irssi
[00:56] <Surunveri> you still here?
[00:57] <Surunveri> anyway this seems impractical but maybe i just dont know how to use it
[01:43] <jschall> I'm having an issue on my netbook where plasma (the panel and the netbook search and launch interface) freezes for 30+ seconds upon resume from standby. I can move the mouse and use any other applications that are open. I'm using an asus 1001p w/ intel gma3150 graphics, atheros wifi. It happens intermittently, and I have yet to find criteria that reproduce the issue every time. Someone please help me diagnose this issue!
[03:00] <jschall> I'm having an issue on my netbook where plasma (the panel and the netbook search and launch interface) freezes for 30+ seconds upon resume from standby. I can move the mouse and use any other applications that are open. I'm using an asus 1001p w/ intel gma3150 graphics, atheros wifi. It happens intermittently, and I have yet to find criteria that reproduce the issue every time. Someone please help me diagnose this issue!
[03:19] <jairo> hey all
[03:31] <KukuNut> anyone know why the maverick kubuntu-netbook iso hasn't been updated since july 7?
[03:33] <DarthFrog> KukuNut: You want #kubuntu-devel
[03:35] <KukuNut> DarthFrog: is that for maverick? i posted also on ubuntu+1 but no response yet
[03:35] <DarthFrog> It's for the development version.  Which currently is Maverick.
[03:36] <DarthFrog> And #ubuntu+1 won't know anything about Kubuntu.
[03:37] <Pici> DarthFrog: Yes they will.  And #kubuntu-devel is for development, its not the Kubuntu #ubuntu+1 channel.
[03:37] <Pici> Plus it was just answered in there.
[03:37] <DarthFrog> I sit corrected. :-)
[06:46] <IdleOne> Can one of the ops reset the forward to #kubuntu-proxy-users it does not appear to be working
[07:24] <Kasper> Прив всем!! Есть кто?
[07:25] <Kasper> плин...что совсем никого нет?? :(((
[07:44] <well_laid_lawn> !ru
[10:19] <seicherlbob> hi there! I have serious problems with kontact. It just wont start up. I had problems with nepomuk server but fixed that by deleting the directory and let it set it up again. So that is fixed. But still, no Kontact running. I post the startup output here:  http://pastebin.com/114nvpzF
[10:25] <seicherlbob> even deleting the autosave files did not change anything.
[11:11] <j800r> hey, is anyone active atm? i've tried in the amarok channel and there's no response :\
[11:20] <Misterio> j800r: Just ask question, and, if anyone knows, s/he will reply
[11:30] <sergio__> ВауӞ
[11:31] <sergio__> Ӟеч буресь, гажано эшъёс
[11:35] <Misterio> !english | sergio__
[11:35] <sergio__> ok
[11:39] <j800r> amarok is not recognising my iPod. sometimes it will, but it's very rare and kinda hit-or-miss. i believe Amarok 2.x is supposed to recognise out out-of-the-box without any tweaking or config. is there something i might be doing wrong? :|
[11:42] <sergio__> there are many intresting people who are  help u)))
[11:44] <jade> G'day, i'm having a problem
[11:44] <jade> Can anyone help?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> j800r: not without knowing the problem
[11:44] <gnomefreak> oops
[11:45] <Guest60744> lol
[11:45] <Guest60744> well you see, im new to kubuntu
[11:45] <Guest60744> i installed it two nights ago
[11:45] <Guest60744> and been loving it
[11:45] <Guest60744> however
[11:45] <FloodBotK1> Guest60744: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:45] <Guest60744> I just restarted my pc and, my desktop has completely changed.. now it looks all ugly and like an old ubuntu desktop, i have done a little linux so im not completly in dark, but.. yeh still a bit nooby
[11:47] <Guest60744> Can you help at all?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Guest60744: do you have the drivers for your video card installed?
[11:48] <Guest60744> yes
[11:48] <Guest60744> Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT
[11:48] <Guest60744> i installed that lastnite also
[11:49] <gnomefreak> from our repos or from nvidias site?
[11:49] <Guest60744> I was running Virtual Box and installing avant window manager, just before it occured
[11:49] <Guest60744> i used nvidias site
[11:50] <Guest60744> Nvidia Driver Version 195.36.24
[11:50] <gnomefreak> Guest60744: you should run the removal script and install the package nvidia-current from our repos. the site package changes the kernel modules it could have had an effect
[11:51] <Guest60744> How do i run the removal script? sorry.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> Guest60744: nvidia-current: Installed: 256.35-0ubuntu2
[11:51] <Guest60744> uh huh.
[11:51] <Guest60744> So how do i remove it?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> Guest60744: you would have to look in the upstream folder for more info. i dont recall the command to run
[11:52] <Guest60744> its alright ill google that
[11:52] <gnomefreak> there should be something in the folder that should help. it should be a file that ends in .sh
[11:53] <Guest60744> then you say that i should just, use like instal nvidia again using terminal "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" would that work
[11:53] <Guest60744> So, the thing is tho, that confuses me is that, everything is actually the same, just its changed to ubuntu for some reason
[11:53] <Guest60744> an ugly brown old ubuntu
[11:53] <Guest60744> It should be a pretty kubuntu 10 look
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Guest60744: it is prefered that you use the hardware drivers menu entry (dont recall where KDE keeps it. i know ingnome it is System -> ADministration -> Hardware Drivers
[11:55] <Guest60744> Can i just change it back to kubuntu somehow?
[11:55] <Guest60744> ok ill take a look
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Guest60744: depends on what you installed
[11:56] <Guest60744> well it feels like im running gnome now instead of kde
[11:56] <gnomefreak> you may get a choice in the log in screen at the bottom
[11:56] <Guest60744> oh.. really hmm
[11:56] <Guest60744> ill take a look at that too
[11:57] <Guest60744> i think my nvidia is fine.
[11:57] <Guest60744> I think its something else, hmm.. thanks for your time btw
[11:57] <Guest60744> appreciated for sure
[11:59]  * gnomefreak on spam patrol for mailing list, so i can be wrong :)
[12:11] <ilya-x> what must I do to play commercial DVDs? I already installed restricted extras, libdvdread4, libdvdcss, and medibuntu (all of which I found through Googling), but nothing has worked. VLC won't load the DVD at all, and Dragon Player goes as far as playing the FBI warning screen and then crashes
[12:44] <ingwa> Riddell: I thought it would be better to continue here.
[12:44] <ingwa> There is a magic incantation to upgrade the distro, right?
[12:45] <ingwa> ah, you just gave it in the other channel, right?
[12:45] <Riddell> ingwa: assuming my memory is right :)
[12:46] <ingwa> we'll see, I guess. First she will do a backup
[12:46] <ingwa> bye for now
[12:46] <Riddell> ingwa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades/Kubuntu  (my memory was right)
[12:47] <Gost3> ciau
[13:15] <rousing> hi
[13:16] <rousing> i'm looking for a dock (not remplacement of taskmanager panel) just to be able to access quickly some applications, anyoine have an idea ?
[13:52] <reagle> its a good day to be using KDE :)
[13:58] <dubis> Hello
[13:59] <dubis> I've got a eeePC 10 inch and I installed kubuntu regular version ....I didn't know there is a netbook kubuntu version
[13:59] <dubis> HOw to migrate to kubuntu netbook ...... MAy I stay like this ???
[14:08] <slow-motion> hi
[14:09] <aguja85> knetworkmanager is full of bugs
[14:10] <aguja85> it cannot handle a bssid that does no transmit
[14:16] <tankdriver> Does anyone know where knetworkmanager have its config files?
[14:24] <[mors]> hi folks
[14:24] <[mors]> in kmail, whenever I click an email, it pops up a progress bar in a notification popup on the bottom right corner
[14:24] <[mors]> how do I disable that ?
[14:28] <||arifaX> I have a plus sign (+) on folder icons on my desktop. I can change it to a minus (-) . What does this do?
[14:54]  * kryptoz is away: Gone away for now
[14:57]  * kryptoz is back.
[14:59] <Misterio> !away > kryptoz
[15:03] <mistrynitesh> ||arifaX: the + sign appears on the folder when it is not selected. When you click on it, the folder gets selected and stays selected while you click on + signs on other folders
[15:04] <mistrynitesh> This way you can select multiple folders.
[15:04] <mistrynitesh> If you want to drop one of the folders from the selection, click on the (-) sign that appears on the selected folders
[15:16] <ping__luce> hi. where can I check if  ubuntu 10.04 is compatible with asus K51AE-SX059D ?
[15:20] <wastrel> ping__luce: burn a livecd and try it
[15:21] <mistrynitesh> ping__luce: I don't remember if there is any official list of compatible hardware... but you would like to have a look at these wiki and community docs
[15:22] <mistrynitesh> ping__luce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[15:22] <mistrynitesh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Hardware
[15:22] <||arifaX> mistrynitesh: thanks
[15:22] <mistrynitesh> ||arifaX: always welcome
[15:37] <Mr-B> Hello, does anyone know how to Install Kdevelop 4 on Kubuntu?
[15:39] <James147> Mr-B: easiest way: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kdevelop-4
[15:41] <Mr-B> Well, Ive already followed that instruction, I added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta repository to the software sources list but I still know where to go to install the Kdevelop!
[15:41] <Mr-B> I still dont know*
[15:42] <James147> Mr-B: if you have the "unsupported updateds" checked in kpackagekit then you should be able to install it via kpackagekit
[15:44] <Mr-B> I did enable it, where shall i go to search for Kdevelop in KPackageKit? like do i have to hit the Software management tab and type Kdevelop or what?
[15:44] <James147> Mr-B: also, if you have added the "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta"  ppa I would also add the  "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" ppa
[15:45] <James147> Mr-B: I would first go to the updates tab and hit the refresh button (just in case) then go to the softweare managment tab and search for kdevelop
[15:50] <Mr-B> Thank you so much, It worked!
[15:53] <Kenjiro> hello there
[15:53] <Kenjiro> can anyone tell me if mencoder on kubuntu has mpeg support?
[15:54] <Kenjiro> my cousin has kubuntu installed on his notebook. When he tries to convert a video from AVI to MPEG, mencoder complains about the codec.
[15:55] <Kenjiro> but he can play the original AVI file, so... it's not a DivX codec which is missing
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[16:24] <PeterDrop> good morning!
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Morning
[16:26] <PeterDrop> i have problems to install pgadmin3 on kubuntu 10.01 :( gtk warning or something like that
[16:27] <PeterDrop> any help on this topic? :D
[16:27] <PeterDrop> *10.04
[16:28] <ubsafder> i pluged a usb drive looks like it is doing a filecheck before mounting how can i get the status of that file check
[16:29] <ubsafder> it is hudge disk i just want to know when can i expect to have it online
[16:31] <ubsafder> using apt-get how do i reinstall a software ?
[16:32] <Pici> sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[16:58] <ubsafder> i plugged a usb device how can i know when it will be available
[17:26] <Khaotic> is kendall jenner really 14
[17:43] <Kenjiro> can anyone tell me if mencoder on kubuntu has mpeg support?
[17:44] <DarthFrog> From the mencoder man page: It  encodes  to  MPEG-4 (DivX/Xvid)
[17:44] <DarthFrog> It  encodes  to  MPEG-4
[17:44] <DarthFrog>        (DivX/Xvid)
[17:46] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: sorry, I meant mpeg 1 or 2
[17:47] <Kenjiro> on my Slackware box I can do that without problems (avi -> mpeg[1|2])
[17:47] <Kenjiro> on kubuntu... it doesn't work
[17:49] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: The man page suggests that it can convert from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4.  No mention of encoding into MPEG-2.
[17:50] <DarthFrog> Why would you want to go from AVI to MPEG-2?  I can't see any benefit (unless you were making a DVD) and just a wasted increase in file size.
[17:52] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: my cousin needs something like that
[17:53] <Kenjiro> his TV can play videos directly from a USB stick (or USB HDD) But it only plays mpeg1 or mpeg2
[17:53] <Kenjiro> dumb, yes
[17:54] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: mencoder can make that kind of conversion/encoding
[17:54] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: I don't know, I just read the man page to answer your question.
[17:55] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: yes, I know. But I know it can do because I had to do that once or twice in my lifetime *grin*
[17:58] <DarthFrog> What happens when you pass mencoder the same command-line parameters that worked previously?
[18:16] <moscowboy> hi
[18:18] <moscowboy> somebody say me please what programm I showl to install to have translation in brouser when I move my mouse cursore over any word ???
[18:18] <moscowboy> *should
[18:19] <DarthFrog> moscowboy: I presume that you'd like an English word translated into Russian?
[18:19] <pushkaraj> Hello everybody I have downloaded kate source code, and imported it in eclipse, and wanted to execute it. But I am not able to find any 'main' method to execute, can anyone please help me executing it? btw, I am new to KDE and its applications.
[18:19] <moscowboy> I have same program in windows, and one guy had said ythat I can get it in linux
[18:19] <moscowboy> yes
[18:19] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: sorry, let me recheck that info on my slackware box at home
[18:20] <DarthFrog> moscowboy: Then perhaps asking on the Russian Ubuntu IRC channel might be more helpful?
[18:20] <DarthFrog> !ru | moscowboy
[18:21] <moscowboy> DarthFrog   no...  please say me here!
[18:21] <DarthFrog> moscowboy: Of course.  I was just trying to be helpful.
[18:22] <DarthFrog> moscowboy: I was thinking that since we are an English-only channel that we wouldn't be of much help to you.
[18:23] <moscowboy> DarthFrog  ок   I am trying to ask it in ru-channel
[18:24] <DarthFrog> moscowboy: If you get the answer, I'd like to know what it is, so I could help the next person who asks.
[18:24] <moscowboy> DarthFrog  ok )))  wait --- russian guys may be help me ))
[18:31] <mvk> is 2.6.35 final available trough ppa for lucid?
[18:31] <mvk> :)
[18:33] <slinker1> looks like in kernel-ppa
[18:34] <slinker1> https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[18:37] <DarthFrog> Is there anything new in 2.6.35 relevant to a desktop system?
[18:40] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: I just tried converting an AVI (DivX/XviD) file to mpeg1 on my computer at home (Slackware) using menconder. Worked just fine
[18:40] <Kenjiro> I will ask my cousin to try the EXACT same parameters and see what happens on his kubuntu
[18:41] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: That makes sense to me.
[18:42] <mirian> hello
[18:42] <moscowboy> DarthFrog   <shadow> moscowboy: https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/918/             gTranslate                0.7
[18:42] <mirian> hello
[18:42] <moscowboy> DarthFrog  is not gud   but  better then nothing
[18:43] <DarthFrog> moscowboy: Thanks.
[18:43] <mariana> hola como estas
[18:43] <DarthFrog> !es | mariana
[18:44] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: too bad my cousin is not at home now :(
[18:45] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: If you can do it with Slack, I don't see why he couldn't also do it with Kubuntu.
[18:46] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: What command did you use?  I could try it here, on my system, and see if it works.
[18:46] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: yes, he should be able to to it with kubuntu
[18:46] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: nice, hold on
[18:47] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: mencoder SOURCE.avi -of mpeg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -oac mp3lame -o test.mpeg
[18:49] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: Yes, it works.
[18:49] <Kenjiro> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good
[18:49] <Kenjiro> if it doesn't work for him... I will tell him to kill himself LOL
[18:49] <DarthFrog> Well, no don't do that.  :-)  We want to keep our Kubuntu users.  :-)
[18:52] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: ahahahahaha
[18:52] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: he was about to format his hdd and install ubuntu
[18:52] <Kenjiro> I told him to wait a bit ;)
[18:54] <Kenjiro> see how nice I am.... he even thought installing Slackware on his notebook ;)
[18:55] <Kenjiro> and I told him to wait :D
[18:57] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: he is really a newbie when it comes to linux.
[18:58] <djustice> anybody here tried kxtodvd?
[19:01] <Riddell> ** Alpha 3 candidate CDs need testing now, all welcome  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
[19:04] <GrimmjowJ> can somebody help me change my computer name on my network?
[19:06] <GrimmjowJ> can somebody help me change my computer name on my network?
[19:09] <GrimmjowJ> is anybody out there?
[19:10] <Pici> GrimmjowJ: I'm here... but I'm not familiar with the KDE interface.  I can suggest how to do it from a terminal though.
[19:10] <Pici> !hostname
[19:10] <GrimmjowJ> im running gnome
[19:10] <GrimmjowJ> just running ubuntu
[19:11] <Pici> GrimmjowJ: Well, you're in #kubuntu.  Actually. I don't remember how to do it from network manager in gnome either.  I always use the cli method.  If you'd prefer to do it graphically I suggest asking in #ubuntu
[19:11] <GrimmjowJ> dont know why but this channel was the default one setup in konversation
[19:13] <Kenjiro> djustice: how good is this kxtodvd?
[19:14] <DarthFrog> GrimmjowJ: konversation is a KDE app. :-)
[19:14] <GrimmjowJ> aaah
[19:14] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: If he's a Linux newcomer, then Slack would be ... challenging. :-)
[19:14] <GrimmjowJ> that explains it then
[19:17] <edb> What is the tangible difference between netbook remix and normal desktop edition for end users?
[19:17] <edb> is there a package they can install to change between them - eg ubuntu-netbook to ubuntu-desktop?
[19:18] <edb> ( I have no installed version yet to check this against )
[19:18] <DarthFrog> !nbr | edb
[19:21] <edb> DarthFrog: That much seems clear, but it (and the linked page) don't really seem to answer my specific question. Forgive me if I'm missing something obvius
[19:21] <edb> *obvious
[19:23] <DarthFrog> edb: I have no experience with the Netbook Remix version.  However, "apt-cache search remix" does turn up several specific packages.
[19:23] <edb> which I suppose I could phrase better: I am really looking for a path between the already written netbook CD I have and ordinary Desktop, that's likely to work
[19:24] <DarthFrog> You could always install the kubuntu-desktop package onto a netbook remix system.
[19:24] <edb> heh yeah - my hope is that my girlfriend will be able to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and have it work
[19:24] <DarthFrog> Don't see why it wouldn't.
[19:24] <edb> I guess we shall see :)
[19:28] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: that's why I didn't advise him to try slackware
[19:28] <Kenjiro> HOWEVER, I began in the linux universe in 1997, and it was with slackware (that's why i still use it)
[19:29] <Kenjiro> but since he is not an IT freak like me... I advise him to go for ubuntu/kubuntu. He saw my KDE... and decided to go for kubuntu ;)
[19:30] <DarthFrog> Kenjiro: That's a good choice.  I started with Slack in 1994 and with KDE 1.0.  Kubuntu is great for both newbies and old hands.
[19:33]  * BluesKaj ponders daughter's Imac
[19:35] <BluesKaj> gonna try to retreive some of the music she stored on it for my kubuntu media server , any advice ?
[19:35] <DarthFrog> Macs do SMB.
[19:35] <Kenjiro> DarthFrog: I began using KDE back in 1997 (or is 98?) on version 0.8
[19:37] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, ok , maybe I won't have the probs I had with W7
[19:39] <djustice> Kenjiro: still alpha. ill link you. its like devede or convertXtodvd(doze app). but kde. and twice as fast as devede.
[19:39] <djustice> Kenjiro: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KxToDVD?content=122178
[19:39] <Kenjiro> djustice: I use convertXtodvd on windows. Very good software
[19:40] <djustice> super simple. no menu magic. just videos one after the other so far.
[19:40] <Kenjiro> djustice: thanks I had already searched it on google ;)
[19:40] <Kenjiro> devede has too many dependencies for my taste ;)
[19:40] <djustice> i have an issue with some video formats tho. they extract too big :/ so they dont fit on dvd..
[19:40] <djustice> Kenjiro: ya, pygtk sucks. hard.
[19:41] <djustice> you can line up 10-15 small youtube vids with it. or any aXXo rip works.
[19:41] <djustice> im looking for ppl who've tried it. as i dont have time to test which formats/encodings it still fails for.
[19:42] <djustice> but yea. most piratebay movies work. download->kxtodvd->add->burn dvd.
[19:43] <djustice> also, looking for ppl who have tried this plasma widget: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/DiscBurner?content=122179
[19:43] <djustice> i need feedbackz
[19:52] <Kenjiro> djustice: I never used that plasma widget
[20:10] <djustice> Kenjiro: koolkool. thx for lookn tho :) try it out one day if you want. it hides in a panel pretty small. down to 22x22.
[20:10] <es> hello to all, I've a 64bit system and having problem running nspluginwrapper for flash. i've read all the info and tried everything suggested on the forums and I'm running out of ideas. the main problem is that pluginreg.dat doesn't get updated and about:plugins shows no flash installation even if all the package are installed
[20:16] <es> the flash plugin just worked once then I've added the partner repository installed sun-java after that nspluginwrapper started having problems hanging firefox, after several wipe and reinstall I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1511278 even if the problem was unrelated I tried what suggested and disabled partner updated reinstalled all the nsplugingwrapper dependencies and reinstalled flashplugin-installer but still firefox doesn't want to
[20:16] <es>  acknoledge the flash plugin and doesn't update plugin list
[21:23] <constanza> Hola...me pasan la pagina de kububtu en español..?
[21:23] <Mamarok> !es | Lucida
[21:24] <es> i hate the bot
[21:24] <es> and i'm not spanish
[21:25] <avihay_> :->
[21:26] <Mamarok> es: sorry, you can still change your nick, we can hardly change country codes
[21:27] <es> I had this nick way before the bot was programmed, btw it was just to make a smile in some faces
[21:27] <Mamarok> es: it's not the bot, this is the official country code, out of our reach to change that
[21:34] <es> btw, anyone here use a 64bit system and is willing to help me having flash working again? I'm going crazy it was working perfectly yesterday. I described what I done here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9674780#post9674780
[21:35] <pvandewyngaerde> my flash is broken too,  but it still works in my chrome
[21:36] <es> pvandewyngaerde: really I tried that but it doesn't show in about:plugins. did you made a flash installation inside chrome or what?
[21:37] <pvandewyngaerde> i think google chrome manages its own plugins
[21:38] <es> pvandewyngaerde: so you didn't install anything it did just worked right?
[21:40] <es> for me it doesn't
[21:40] <pvandewyngaerde> i installed chrome,   before flash also worked in Firefox, now i cant play youtube movies anymore in FF
[21:40] <pvandewyngaerde> hmm, my uname -m  says i am only running i686 , not 64
[21:42] <es> I can't even get a 32b version... how did you get a 32bit firefox there is no 32b in the repo and in the mozilla.com site you got automatically the one for your arch :/
[21:43] <es> I start thinking of the warning on the ubuntu download page
[21:43] <es> but I really need 64 bit for my needs
[21:43] <es> not for browsing though
[21:47] <ikonia> es: what's the issue
[21:48] <es> hello ikonia the issue is that I can't get firefox/chrome/opera to see the flash plugin I described in dettail what I done here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9674780#post9674780
[21:50] <es> I think many people that enabled the partner rep would have been probably affected by this... I don't know I'm running out of ideas
[21:50] <sebastiano> hi, I wanted to check out kde 4.5 rc2, but after login I just get a black screen+cursor, any ideas?
[21:51] <ikonia> es: I see what you mean, I don't see why firefox would ignore the plugin
[21:52] <es> pluginreg.dat should be updated everytime isn't it? I tried putting it in .mozilla/plugins but no change
[21:53] <es> ikonia: you have a 64bit system?
[21:53] <ikonia> I do
[21:53] <ikonia> but it's ubuntu, not kubuntu
[21:54] <es> I have both, maybe I may insert the entry by hand and see what it do...
[21:54] <es> ikonia:  it shouldn't make any difference k/ubuntu
[22:01] <ikonia> es: and it's working fine for me
[22:15] <slow-motion> hi
[22:35] <jose___> hola
[22:36] <jose___> hay alguien aqui?
[23:15] <crashsystems> anyone have an idea what might be causing a huge number of zombie kded4 processes?


[10:49] <bluesabre> xfwm4 4.14.5-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> uploaded to SRU Staging and pending approval for -proposed. Fixes and will require verification for LP: #1873895, #1872509, #1864613 , please wait until it gets accepted into proposed before leaving verification feedback.
[10:49] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1864613 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu Focal) "xfwm4 very, very slow - leaking something?" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864613
[10:49] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1873895 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu Focal) "Regression: block staircase display with side-by-side monitors of different pixel widths" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1873895
[10:49] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1872509 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu Focal) "xfwm4 crashed with signal 5 in _XReply()" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872509
[12:18] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Apply translations in ar @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/06cc8b879e913031fcf4e251b1d1cf8ab8d3f64b (by transifex-integration)
[23:25] <Unit193> Was I supposed to ping someone when there was issues with the docs' translations?


[23:14] <thomi> wgrant: If you have time, I'm a little stuck. I'm trying to write a test that reprodices bug #1387397 - my attempt is here (https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~thomir/launchpad/devel-fix-group-security/revision/17301), but the test annoyingly passes
[23:14] <mup> Bug #1387397: Can't list members of private team that I own <403> <easy> <privacy> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387397>
[23:15] <thomi> I *think* I understand the conditions under which the bug should be reproducible
[23:16] <thomi> but I've almost certainly done something dumb
[23:16] <wgrant> thomi: You're checking for LimitedView on the parent team, not the child team.
[23:17] <thomi> ugh, well that _was_ dumb
[23:17] <wgrant> But easy :)
[23:39] <wgrant> I assume New Zealand just cut its string.


[06:00] <doctormo> Massive amounts of editing for rev03 of networking, managed to find a systems-admin who would co-operate and best of all actually submit a patch (a whole set of them) for the course material.
[06:08] <Vantrax> lol
[06:08] <Vantrax> nice work, i wish i was that motivated
[06:15] <doctormo> Vantrax: It is the toil of a content producer... it's all very well us chatting about courses, but we need to actually make them ;-)
[15:30] <Darken87> hello
[15:30] <Darken87> :-[
[15:30] <Darken87> is anyone here?
[20:58] <pleia2> doctormo: oh wow, so sorry to hear about the robbery :(
[21:02] <doctormo> pleia2: Yea, lots going on, but news like that is draining.
[21:02]  * pleia2 nods
[21:04] <doctormo> pleia2: Do you like rev03 of the networking sheet? I had to redo Subnet masks last night, even a new diagram to go with it. I'd appricate your quick glance over that section.
[21:05]  * pleia2 sheepishly admits that networking is not her forte
[21:14] <doctormo> pleia2: Then it shall become it through all these reviews :-D you can just say "I understand" or "I don't understand"
[21:14] <pleia2> well, I do understand enough to get through it, I just won't be able to identify mistakes ;)


[05:35] <pitti> Good morning
[07:00] <dholbach> good morning
[07:35] <dholbach> xnox, pgraner, happy birthday! :)
[07:41] <xnox> \o/
[07:45] <xnox> Quarter of a Century.... "In Time" clocks start ticking
[07:46] <infinity> xnox: I'm sure pgraner will be happy to hear you whining about your age. :P
[07:47] <smb> Age... don't talk to me about age...
[07:48] <smb> xnox, So Happy Birthday as well
[07:49] <smb> In other general news: am I the only one that got the feeling that bootspeed in Saucy is not a happy camper?
[07:51]  * xnox just upgraded to my first SSD ever, so for it all flies.
[07:52] <xnox> smb: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/bootspeed/arch/amd64/#acer-veriton-02    mostly up & not down.
[07:55] <smb> xnox, Seems to match my wonderful experience of 15s dark screen with a mouse pointer after login screen
[07:55] <smb> xnox, and thats with a SSD
[07:55] <xnox> hmm... i also wonder what that dark screen is.
[07:55] <jibel> and according to bootchart it's an amd64 only regression
[07:55] <xnox> (for me it's shorter but still there)
[07:56] <smb> xnox, Feel like just the decorators not running
[07:56] <pitti> hey xnox, good morning! happy birthday!
[07:56] <smb> jibel, mine is i386
[07:56] <geser> xnox: grats, how many bugs do you have to fix to earn some additional time? or did you inherit enough time? :)
[07:56] <pitti> does anyone have a wireless keyboard and/or mouse? (bluetooth)
[07:57] <xnox> pitti: does an android app count? =)
[07:57] <smb> xnox, jibel, fwiw a bootchart of mine would be on chinstrap
[07:57] <pitti> xnox: well, as long as upower --dump shows that devices' battery and it's in /sys/class/power_supply
[07:58] <pitti> xnox: but it might be a bit atypical
[07:59]  * hyperair has a bluetooth mouse
[07:59] <pitti> hyperair: could you have a look at my last comment in bug 1153488? that's a command whose output I'd like to get
[08:00] <hyperair> i don't recall ever seeing power_supply information for my mouse though..
[08:00] <hyperair> (and the mouse is at home)
[08:00] <hyperair> wait ~8 hours or so and i'll get to it
[08:00] <pitti> hyperair: splendid, thanks
[08:00] <xnox> pitti: no luck here, upower doesn't see it.
[08:01] <hyperair> i've got one of the HID+ unifying adapter mouse/keyboard pairs on me right now though, and i don't see anything in power_supply besides AC and BAT0
[08:02] <pitti> hyperair: ah, do you see them in "upower --dump"?
[08:02] <hyperair> ope
[08:02] <hyperair> nope*
[08:02] <pitti> ah right, that's the Logitech stuff, not Bluetooth
[08:02] <hyperair> yeah that's right
[08:03] <hyperair> the bluetooth mouse is also logitech, but i've never seen it listed in upower's output before
[08:03] <pitti> hm, bug 1066208 and its dupes suggest that it's not uncommon
[08:04] <hyperair> might be for specific mice that actually do report their battery levels
[08:04] <hyperair> i see a mention of apple magic mouse there
[08:04] <hyperair> could it be just that mouse?
[08:05] <pitti> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/120326665/UPowerDump.txt has "Eclipse Touch Mouse"
[08:06] <hyperair> heh haven't even heard of that mouse before
[08:09] <pitti> hyperair: and bug 1086746 has "Logitech diNovo Edge", so it  seems there are more
[08:14] <darkxst> pitti, oh I wonder, maybe https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707331 is similar?
[08:18] <pitti> darkxst: could be; check upower --dump?
[08:19] <darkxst> pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058085/
[08:20] <pitti> darkxst: ah nice, could you attach the output of "grep -r . /sys/class/power_supply/*hid*" to bug 1153488 ?
[08:20] <darkxst> pitti, its not bluetooth
[08:20] <darkxst> its a unifying one
[08:20] <pitti> darkxst: ah, that again; ok, thanks
[08:22] <hyperair> hmm interesting
[08:23] <darkxst> pitti, yeh, well atleast peter's branch fixed the other problem ;)
[08:43] <ev> @pilot in
[08:45] <pkern> ev: Could you pilot https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1214385 please? ;)
[08:51] <ev> sure can
[09:47] <darkxst> Hey ev, any chance you can look at Bug 1219188
[09:49] <darkxst> ev, and super trivial patch on Bug 1189309
[09:52] <ev> darkxst: sure, can do
[10:06] <ev> pkern: bug 1214385 is in the queue for -proposed
[10:32] <mardy> seb128: hi! I need a little help with quilt :-)
[10:32] <seb128> mardy, hey, sure! (funny I was just thinking about pinging you to ask how the patch update is going ;-)
[10:32] <mardy> seb128: "quilt diff" shows all my changes, but with "quilt refresh" the patch doesn't get updated with all of them
[10:32] <xnox> ev: given that touch is read-only, one can check if system-image-development (rw) mode was enabled. If not, collect & report run-away processes.
[10:33] <seb128> mardy, did you modify new files (e.g that were not in the patch before), if you do you need to quilt add the files before changing them
[10:33] <xnox> ev: i like when e.g. pulseaudio goes crazy and starts to eat 12% of CPU, yet killing it "fixes" the problem the respawned instance is back to using peanuts.
[10:34] <mardy> seb128: no, it's a file that was already in the patch
[10:34] <seb128> mardy, weird
[10:35] <seb128> mardy, where are you looking to the patch?
[10:35] <seb128> mardy, quilt refresh updates the version in build-area/source/debian/patches, that's copied over to your vcs when you end the bzr bd-do (if it exit without error)
[10:39] <ev> xnox: mind following up to the email with that, just so we're all talking in the same place? :)
[10:39] <ev> it's a good point
[10:39] <mardy> seb128: mmm... I wonder, maybe it doesn't work because I copied all the build-area directory into another place? (so that I wouldn't lose it with an accidental Ctrl+D)
[10:40] <seb128> mardy, well, quilt refresh should update it whever you are
[10:41] <seb128> mardy, what does "quilt top" says?
[10:41] <seb128> mardy, is that the patch you are working on?
[10:41] <mardy> seb128: yes, "06_uoa.patch"
[10:42] <seb128> mardy, and that patch doesn't get update on quilt refresh? (is the timestamp of the .patch changing?)
[10:45] <mardy> seb128: nope, the timestamp doesn't change, and "quilt refresh" says: "Patch 06_uoa.patch is unchanged"
[10:45] <seb128> mardy, does it does the same if you edit a file listed in that .patch?
[10:47] <pkern> ev: Thank you!
[10:52] <ev> darkxst: what's your full email address? The debdiff for the nm-applet fix just has "darkness@arapiles2"
[10:53] <darkxst> ev, oh that is because I made that on my notebook.. normally use<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for patches
[10:54] <ev> darkxst: cool, thanks!
[10:54] <mardy> seb128: werid, it says "refreshed", but the timestamp does not change
[10:55] <mardy> seb128: ah! It's modifying the patch in the original build-area directory!
[10:55] <mardy> seb128: so, it looks like quilt internally stores the absolute path of the patch
[10:57] <seb128> mardy, oh, could be, I never tried to do copies arounds like that
[10:57] <seb128> mardy, that would explain it ;-)
[10:58] <mardy> seb128: anyway, it looks like that patch is complete; I'll push my branch soon
[11:02] <seb128> mardy, excellent, thanks!
[11:25] <mardy> seb128: pushed: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/shotwell/update-0.15.0pr1
[11:26] <mardy> seb128: will you take it over, or is there something left for me to do?
[11:32] <ogra_> hmpf ... so i merged two binary packages into the same source ... one is Arch armhf, the other is Arch all ... uploading this package it seems the Arch all build is never even attempted
[11:32] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6058571/ is debian/control ... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/0.42 is the package on LP
[11:34] <cjwatson> ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1063188
[11:34] <cjwatson> ogra_: You could just make it artificially Architecture: any as a workaround, if the Architecture: armhf package can't be made any
[11:35] <ogra_> yeah, that armhf there is pretty valid, we dont want to roll armhf initrds on x86
[11:36] <ogra_> but it just strikes me that i indeed also need different targets in debian/rules for that
[11:53] <seb128> mardy, \o/, I'm taking over from there, thanks!
[12:22] <lool> mdeslaur: Hey!  would you think you could handle merging of latest sbuild?
[12:23] <cjwatson> It has a LOT of cross-building fixes.
[12:23] <lool> mdeslaur: jodh and you are last uploaders, but jodh is currently on leave; we need some cross-build fixes that went into the latest Debian version
[12:23] <mdeslaur> lool, cjwatson: sure, I'll merge it
[12:23] <lool> mdeslaur: awesome; happy to test the cross-building once you're done!   :-)
[12:25] <cjwatson> mdeslaur: Thanks
[14:26] <davmor2> Guys can I just check with the removal of gksudo is the correct way to trigger a graphical sudo event to use pkexec /path/to/app ?  thanks
[14:27] <smb> xnox, Just to let you know, I filed bug 1220252 about what we talked this morning
[14:28] <davmor2> smb: oh I'll go confirm that I thought that was just my hybrid gfx that was causing that but maybe not if others are suffering :)
[14:29] <smb> davmor2, I believe there are others too :)
[15:02] <chiluk> slangasek, thanks for the curl upload last week on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1179781 can I get some love for the apt debdiffs?
[15:07] <mdeslaur> lool: new sbuild should be available now, fyi
[15:09] <dholbach> pitti, bdmurray: I just had a usb-creator crash and I was directed to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1218178 which was closed as invalid because of outdated libraries - shall I just go ahead and run ubuntu-bug on the crash file=
[15:09] <dholbach> ?
[15:11] <lool> mdeslaur: \o/  thanks
[15:11] <mdeslaur> np
[15:13] <dholbach> pitti, bdmurray: nevermind, bug filed :)
[15:16] <slangasek> chiluk: so I was hoping infinity might be interested enough in that bug to sponsor the SRUs, but I guess not :)  I'll see what I can do for you today
[15:19] <tkamppeter> Has there anything been changed with the uplod to Saucy? Since yesterday my packages which I uploaded to saucy-proposed and got successfully built by the buildds did not get passed over to saucy release.
[15:19] <chiluk> thanks slangasek
[15:19] <cjwatson> tkamppeter: Your packages are probably blocked for beta-1 preparation
[15:20] <tkamppeter> cjwatson, this mail did not rech me.
[15:20] <cjwatson> Laney: ^-
[15:20] <hallyn_> stgraber: so i'm still getting "iproute:amd64 is not available, but is referred to by another package." on armhf container creation.  should that have been fixed by your isc-dhcp-client update?
[15:21] <stgraber> hallyn_: it should have...
[15:21] <Laney> tkamppeter: It's on the release schedule; will be removed tomorrow
[15:21] <stgraber> hallyn_: it was still reference by lxc-ubuntu... fixing that upstream now.
[15:23] <cjwatson> tkamppeter: Also http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html tells you who/where to contact
[15:25] <tkamppeter> cjwatson, sorry, I was used to these e-mails.
[15:26] <Laney> It's all a bit new with these dynamic blocks and stuff
[15:26] <Laney> I think we'll make it more lightweight in future
[15:26] <stgraber> hallyn_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6059238/ looks good to you?
[15:28]  * hallyn_ looking
[15:29] <hallyn_> stgraber: well I wouldn't say "good" - i hate to think how hacks like that can accumulate, but it's cleaner than anything i've thought of :)  thanks
[15:29]  * hallyn_ tries it out
[15:34] <hallyn_> stgraber: worked!  pls add my acked-by, thanks
[15:36] <stgraber> hallyn_: pushed
[15:53] <knocte> Cimi: ping
[15:55] <cjwatson> LoganCloud: I hope you're prepared to deal with any GHC ABI changes resulting from your GHC sync.  We were deliberately holding off on that one
[16:25] <Laney> oh dear
[18:53] <arges> hallyn_: hi
[18:58] <hallyn_> arges: hi
[18:59] <arges> hallyn_: i'm taking a look at bug 1100843... not sure if you got anywhere with it.
[18:59] <arges> My plan was to test precise w/ an older kernel since it doesn't seem to be reproduced on Lucid.
[19:00] <arges> But I wasn't sure if there was anything else going on before I embark
[19:07] <hallyn_> arges: no i've not gotten anywhere with it
[19:09] <hallyn_> that is, i've never reproduced
[19:13] <arges> hallyn_: ok i'll take a look at it then. thanks
[19:41] <barry> lool: it seems impossible to update any blueprint work items today
[21:40] <ev> @pilot out
[22:15] <sarnold> slangasek: hello :) Do you 'own' the UbuntuHashes webpage? It came up in bug 1219589 that "ubuntu-docs" isn't the best place to assign bug reports for that page, do you have a recommendation for a better package?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1219589


[00:27] <RobertMas> i installed teddysun LAMP and cannot get into phpmyadmin because i don't know the username and password so i want to uninstall everything. it says to type ./uninstall.sh in command line but it gives me command not found. how do i make this work?
[00:33] <oerheks> make sure you are in the folder of that teddysun something, then ./uninstall.sh
[00:34] <oerheks> and use official packages, good start https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/lamp-applications
[04:25] <magic_ninja> I can't figure out what is causing my audio output to switch between speakers and headphone rather than fill.
[04:25] <magic_ninja> I have it disabled in alsamixer
[05:02] <valorie> magic_ninja: be sure to check pulseaudio
[05:03] <valorie> sometimes PA & alsa contradict one another and it can get unpredictable
[05:10] <magic_ninja> valorie, yea, it is something hidden doing it. I have the pa setting unchecked. I have no clue where the setting is.
[05:10] <magic_ninja> It just switches between the two as I plug in and unplug headphones. I want it to just put sound out to both all the time.
[05:10] <valorie> all of your configuration files are in ~/.config
[05:11] <valorie> they are just text files -- once you look at a few, easy to understand and edit
[05:11] <valorie> or rename and allow to be recreated
[05:14] <magic_ninja> which one is the pulse audio one? What might the setting be called?
[05:15] <magic_ninja> See what I'm getting at? I have no clue where it is at or what it is called.
 What are the settings to optimize for best power saving atleast comparable to windows 10
[08:03] <guiverc-t> (qa-test only)
[09:20] <Guest64> Bonjour,
[09:21] <Guest64> je cherche à installer OpenVpn sur Kubuntu
[09:21] <Guest64> l'installation du paquet passe
[09:21] <Guest64> mais le lancement d'Openvpn ne fonctionne pas
[09:21] <Guest64> quelqu'un a t'il du retour
[11:47] <mparillo> Ici, tout le monde parliament seulement l'Anglais. On peut parle francais ici:
[11:47] <mparillo> !fr
[20:14] <ats_> hello i'm new here
[20:14] <ats_> I have a question on Gnumeric
[20:15] <ats_> How can I change the value of a spreadsheet cell by clicking on it?
[20:24] <Mekaneck> isn't Gnumeric a Gnome or say GTK app?
[20:24] <Mekaneck> not really Kubuntu related imho
[20:25] <Mekaneck> ats_: ^
[20:27] <Mekaneck> ats_: and if you'd search on the web, they have a user manual on their site
[20:46] <hanna> hi
[23:28] <Roey> HI
[23:28] <Roey> HEY let's say I have TWO monitors connected to my computer, where one of them (say, the right one) is actually connected to a KVM because I multiplex it so that I can use it as a monitor for my laptop.  What will happen to my Plasma desktop when I suddenly switch the input of this KVM-connected right-hand monitor away from my desktop and to my laptop?
[23:31] <N3X15> I have that configuration (monitor and laptop display are basically overlapped in screen config).  It should work fine.
[23:32] <N3X15> My only problem has been my crappy KLau HDMI KVM throwing kernel errors every time it power cycles due to misbehaviour on the hardware level
[23:46] <jabberwock> If any of you know who works on KOrganizer: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=165265&p=448123#p448123
[23:46] <jabberwock> Roey: I dunno! Try it :)
[23:47] <Roey> jabberwock: HEY fancy meeting you here!!
[23:47] <jabberwock> likewise :)
[23:47] <Roey> jabberwock: I am constructing my NASA Control Station :)
[23:47] <jabberwock> Noice
[23:48] <Roey> a big strong desk that's electronically adjustable
[23:48] <Roey> and has bluetooth connetivity
[23:48] <Roey> I can make it go to a particular preset height with a phone app
[23:48] <Roey> I've hung the desktop under it
[23:48] <Roey> so that it's not on the floor
[23:48] <Roey> I have a treadmill I stand / sit on (on a stool on it)
[23:48] <jabberwock> that's neat!
[23:48] <jabberwock> I have a standing desk but no BT
[23:48] <jabberwock> ... YET
[23:49] <Roey> and two 32" 4k Samsung monitors, mounted to two ErgoTron LX arms
[23:49] <Roey> :) :)
[23:49] <jabberwock> Sounds like you went all out :D
[23:49] <Roey> it cost
[23:49] <Roey> an arm
[23:49] <Roey> and a leg.
[23:49] <Roey> butyeah, I /did/ it
[23:49] <Roey> :)
[23:49] <Roey> also I got a TOTO a month ago
[23:49] <Roey> life-changing.
[23:50] <jabberwock> Toto? You blessed the rains down in Africa?
[23:51] <jabberwock> OMG those are ridiculously expensive!
[23:52] <jabberwock> $4k faucet, no thank you. Just based on their demo video - you can make that "proprietary" setup with the turbine and capacitors