[00:00] <ev0lve> Ben64: correct
[00:00] <Ben64> now its copying 4 bytes at a time
[00:00] <panorain> Ben64 upper case matters in this situation?
[00:00] <Ben64> ev0lve: you're the one that said 4
[00:00] <Ben64> panorain: yes
[00:00] <ev0lve> Ben64: i said you are right/correct.
[00:00] <Q17> yea grime tools for backtrack 5r3
[00:00] <grime> panorain, it was bs=4M;sync
[00:00] <Lice> Aloa :)
[00:01] <grime> panorain, uppercase M
[00:01] <packetfrog> Lice: do not get to close   i hate lice :(
[00:01] <panorain> grime its still copying .iso
[00:02] <panorain> grime do I need to repartition again or try it?
[00:02]  * Lice shows fangs!
[00:02] <unheeding> how would i make a script to log the user out?
[00:02] <unheeding> i'm using a wm without a menu
[00:02] <grime> panorain, spelling is crucial in cli................your fine but its gonna take a while
[00:02] <bekks> panorain: Copying 4bytes at a time will takes ages for finishing.
[00:02] <panorain> grime ok
[00:02] <Ben64> if it's to a flash drive it could be bad for it
[00:02] <panorain> bekks 4M is megabytes 4m is bytes?
[00:02] <Ben64> 4m didn't work, remember?
[00:03] <bekks> panorain: 4M is 4 megabytes, 4m isnt defined., 4 is 4.
[00:03] <panorain> bekks ok i'm going to repartition and start again
[00:03] <Ben64> don't need to partition if you're just using dd to overwrite it
[00:04] <bekks> panorain: You dont hace to repartition. Just cancel that command, and use 4M instead 4.
[00:04] <Lice> okay I've a tiny little problem that is propably easyer solved then i think. I'm trying to put 12.10 on a 2012 MBP (1 version before the retina one) now I have refi and can boot the live USB's boot buuut once I get further the screen gets black nothing happens aside from the funky ubuntu-sound. I tried adding the nouvoue thingy to the grub kernel line but didn't help either I get some output if I rmove quite and spash but still it free
[00:04] <grime> Ben64, think you can help out Q17 i dont know much about that
[00:04] <bekks> *have
[00:04] <Ben64> grime: whats a q17
[00:04] <grime> Ben64 a user who needs help
[00:05] <grime> Q17, can you ask Ben64 he might be able to help more than me
[00:05] <panorain> bekks I restarted copying now with the bs=4M input string
[00:05] <Q17> yeah
[00:06] <grime> panorain, you should be fine now
[00:06] <Angel0912> can i ask if ubuntu would detect a overclock or use stock clock?
[00:06] <panorain> grime 790 MB copied
[00:06] <grime> panorain, now your done....it should boot no problem
[00:06] <Q17> ben64 looking for some kool tools - am playing around with bt 5 r3
[00:07] <panorain> grime is there a way to now check the transfer to verify before rebooting?
[00:07] <Ben64> Q17: should ask in #backtrack-linux we don't support it here
[00:07] <Q17> ok
[00:07] <grime> thanks Ben64
[00:08] <grime> panorain, safely remove the drive then reinsert check the contents
[00:10] <panorain> grime sudo fdisk yields /dev/sdc1 boot *  system Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[00:11] <grime> panorain, your good.........just restart and you should get your the installer
[00:11] <panorain> grime I will prepare for reboot on the machine now
[00:11] <Ben64> ntfs?
[00:11] <Ben64> what image were you writing?
[00:12] <panorain> Ben64 I am writing a 12.10 .iso image
[00:12] <Ben64> shouldn't come up as ntfs
[00:13] <Catbuntu> Congrats
[00:13] <Catbuntu> oops
[00:13] <Catbuntu> wrong channel
[00:15] <panorain> grime I am now booting into what looks like 12.10 installer  Thank you
[00:15] <InFlames> is there a site for extensions for unity? like for instance, i am looking for a lamp stack menu
[00:15] <panorain> Ben64 thank you also I am a noob
[00:15] <Ben64> panorain: thats cool, we all were at some point
[00:16] <panorain> Ben64 I really like usb booting instead of cd this is my second .iso boot from usb
[00:16] <Ben64> yeah usb is nice, saves on blank cds too
[00:17] <panorain> Ben64 I agree
[00:17] <grime> panorain, welcome
[00:17] <panorain> grime should I tick install this 3rd party software?
[00:18] <grime> panorain, yeah
[00:18] <codephobic> hi
[00:18] <grime> yo
[00:18] <panorain> yo
[00:19] <grime> Ben64 are you always logged in?
[00:19] <Ben64> yeah
[00:19] <panorain> i'll be back in a bit this place is great help
[00:19] <grime> Ben64 may i ask why
[00:19] <Ben64> why not?
[00:19] <grime> panorain, go for it
[00:19] <codephobic> has anyone here found the nautilus status bar indicating the wrong amount of free space left, on directories that are shared over samba?
[00:20] <grime> Ben64 i was just curious if there was a specific reason
[00:20] <codephobic> I'm not sure if this is specific to Ubuntu 12.10
[00:20] <Ben64> grime: dunno
[00:20] <codephobic> or whether it's specific to debian (the samba file server) or whether it is a random quirk.
[00:21] <grime> codephobic, sounds more like a nautilus thing.....but im not sure
[00:21] <codephobic> grime, I've had samba shared folders connected before, from windows machines, but the status bar's never been quirky before.
[00:22] <codephobic> I googled, but found nothing useful either.
[00:22] <grime> codephobic, you running ubuntu tho right?
[00:22] <erktest> yoyo
[00:22] <grime> Ben64, what do you think?
[00:22] <grime> erktest, yo
[00:23] <erktest> just
[00:23] <codephobic> grim yes, 12.10
[00:23] <erktest> im
[00:23] <codephobic> samba file server (debian squeeze), samba (cifs) client (ubuntu 12.10)
[00:24] <grime> codephobic, when did it go goofy
[00:24] <codephobic> since I got the debian server to share files with this ubuntu
[00:24] <airlynx> Can anyone help me understand why I get drastically different results running the same benchmarks on the same computer between Ubuntu vs. Windows?  This is the Windows result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/view/1707862  and this is the Ubuntu result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/view/1708338
[00:25] <codephobic> previously, I was running a windows 7 machine hosting the same disks, but decided I wanted something much faster and I could do what little I needed in windows in a vm.
[00:25] <Ben64> airlynx: because their linux version sucks?
[00:26] <grime> codephobic, hhmmm how did you install it
[00:26] <codephobic> I hooked up the systems yesterday, didn't notice the non-shifting "5.3GB" in the nautilus status bar until I deleted a big file from a folder and nothing changed.
[00:26] <airlynx> The biggest thing I can tell is that the Linux version says 1 processor, 2 cores, 4 threads, whereas the Windows version says 1 processor, 4 cores
[00:27] <codephobic> grim, pretty standard way, installed (apt-get install ...) Samba server, samba client, cifs utils, nfs utils (wasn't sure what method to go with initially) ...
[00:27] <codephobic> configured the samba stuff in smb.conf...
[00:27] <codephobic> nothing unusual there, as far as I can figure.
[00:27] <codephobic> set up auto mount in fstab
[00:27] <grime> codephobic, alright so no unusual stuff....it works tho right?
[00:28] <codephobic> yep, works pretty much as I expected
[00:28] <packetfrog> Hey   where do you choose your session type on login screen with lightdm?
[00:28] <airlynx> Can anyone suggest a better/more accurate cross-platform benchmark tool?
[00:28] <darkhelmet46> Hey guys, I have a 3rd party .deb installed.  How can I find where the config files are?
[00:29] <bekks> airlynx: Better than...?
[00:29] <airlynx> bekks: better than geekbench
[00:29] <codephobic> maybe a little disappointing in terms of movie playback, the files felt a little more responsive when the windows machine was serving over samba.
[00:29] <grime> codephobic, so the only thing is that the memory displays something else?
[00:29] <bekks> airlynx: I never even heard of geekbench.
[00:29] <airlynx> bekks: do you have one you would suggest?
[00:29] <Ben64> benchmarks don't really matter anyway
[00:30] <grime> packetfrog, bottom panel?
[00:30] <codephobic> grime,  yep ... just a slight niggle, I'm sure, but best to try and find out why and whether or not there's something more to it.
[00:30] <Ben64> or if you really care, run the same one in the same OS on different computers
[00:30] <bekks> airlynx: Besides the irrelevance of cross platform benchmarks - what do you want to benchmark in particular?
[00:30] <panorain> grime should I tick the Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security box?
[00:31] <airlynx> bekks: I just want to be sure my new computer is faster than my old one, lol, and I wasn't sure if Ubuntu was utilizing the quad-core processor correctly
[00:31] <bekks> airlynx: Just take a look at "cat /proc/cpuinfo" - if you can see four cores, Ubuntu will use them.
[00:31] <grime> panorain, if you want that one is your choice
[00:32] <grime> codephobic, seems like theres a bug with using nautilus and samba together
[00:32] <panorain> grime for a home user would I be best suited to leave the encrypt box unticked?
[00:32] <airlynx> bekks: okay, thank you, maybe I'll stop messing around with benchmarks now
[00:33] <grime> panorain, i usually leave it un-ticked
[00:33] <panorain> grime ok
[00:33] <panorain> grime I am going to use the entire 320.1 GB drive for 12.10
[00:34] <panorain> grime does this seem correct or a larger swap file?
[00:34] <grime> codephobic, im reading report of people getting error messages without being a actually being errors
[00:34] <grime> panorain, thats fine unless your dual booting within the same hd
[00:35] <codephobic> grime, that's ominous, I've not experienced any (so far).
[00:35] <panorain> grime ok
[00:36] <Katronix> Hi all, if you want to enable quota do you normally have to do a custom compile of the kernel?
[00:36] <grime> codephobic, yeah so maybe its just a hiccup but might not be true
[00:36] <grime> panorain, sure thing
[00:37] <Guest1629> hello?
[00:37] <codephobic> I've googled some more, but the nearest thing I've found to the issue is something suggesting that samba and ubuntu report memory in different unit sizes GB vs GiB ... Doesn't look like my situation is a manifestation of that 'error'...
[00:38] <packetfrog> How to change session type  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=46347   there is not option on lightdm
[00:38] <Guest1629> hello?
[00:38] <grime> yo
[00:38] <grime> codephobic, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/148866
[00:38] <Guest1629> this is support right??
[00:38] <codephobic> gime, so far, things have worked more or less as anticipated. The biggest hurdle was self-inflicted, when I spent 20mins wondering why I couldn't connect a share I set up on ubuntu, to the debian ... then I remembered I'd got firestarter running and hadn't configured it to allow the share though.
[00:39] <grime> Guest1629, something like that
[00:39] <panorain> grime what about home folder encryption box?
[00:40] <darkhelmet46> Hey guys, I have a 3rd party .deb installed.  How can I find where the config files are?
[00:40] <grime> panorain, like i said if you want you can
[00:40] <Zeptis> Good evening, is there a room for finding specific utilities in the multiverse, or is that sort of query fine here?
[00:40] <Guest1629> i need help getting the iso backtrack and installing it i already have it downloaded now how do i install please don't be too tech
[00:40] <panorain> grime sorry to be so pesky i'll stop
[00:40] <bekks> !backtrack > Guest1629
[00:41] <grime> guest1629, should be in ~/home/Downloads
[00:41] <grime> panorain, its all good!
[00:41] <codephobic> grime, ah I've had some nasty experiences transferring large files over nautilus ... never again. I do that stuff through terminal only now.
[00:42] <panorain> grime 12.10 looks pretty nice I am going to install gnome-panel at some point I am installing now
[00:42] <codephobic> more of a pain, but much more reliable. And faster too (seemingly).
[00:42] <grime> darkhelmet46, try typing the name of the program in nautilus....make sure you search in root
[00:43] <panorain> grime my brother has a 1600mhz p4 with lucid on installed will the speed decrease with installation of 12.10 on his machine?
[00:43] <grime> panorain, glad you like it, yeah whenever you want,,then just pick it from the login window
[00:43] <darkhelmet46> grime, that's what i am doing now, trying to get everything.  i already did it once, but when I reinstall the DEB, all the app preferences are still there.
[00:44] <grime> panorain, it can run but its gonna be super slow and sluggish
[00:44] <panorain> grime ok
[00:45] <Zeptis> Would anyone know of a utility to output harmonic key given a (sound) file?
[00:45] <grime> darkhelmet46, check in /usr/share
[00:45] <grime> codephobic, so yeah i think you should be fine tho
[00:46] <codephobic> thanks grime.
[00:46] <grime> codephobic, no prob.....glad i could help some
[00:46] <codephobic> :)
[00:46] <grime> Zeptis, oooo thats a tough one what have you tried?
[00:47] <panorain> grime finishing installation report speech-dispatcher disabled
[00:47] <Zeptis> Google, so far :p
[00:47] <codephobic> Got another question ... What's the best driver to install (the default one?) for ATI Radeon HD 3000 on-board video?
[00:47] <darkhelmet46> grime, holy crap lots of stuff in there!  lol
[00:47] <Zeptis> I don't know what a developer would explain the function of that sort of program as, so I'm a bit stumped.
[00:47] <panorain> grime pc seems to have hung should I ctrl+alt+bkspc?
[00:48] <codephobic> I'm tempted to try out KDE on ubuntu, since I can't get compiz to do the funky box stuff in unity... but I need to fine-tune my graphics "card", before I do so, I suspect.
[00:48] <grime> darkhelmet46, look for it in there
[00:48] <th3sp00n> Can someone help me with my network configuration? I've got two networks, a 10.70.20.* and a 10.80.10.* that I'm trying to bridge for kvm, but whatever I do, I can't get the bridge to load the 10.80.10.* network http://pastebin.com/2gG7iwJY
[00:48] <grime> Zeptis, idk of any program that does that
[00:49] <grime> codephobic, haha if your comp can run it smoothly is funn
[00:49] <Zeptis> Whelp, time to dive into github, I geso. Thanks for using some of your processing time on it, grime.
[00:49] <grime> panorain, try rebooting and loggin in in unity 2D
[00:49] <bekks> th3sp00n: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[00:50] <zargonovski> hey greeting to all
[00:50] <zargonovski> we're doing a global jam here
[00:50] <panorain> grime ok
[00:50] <zargonovski> and we've an issue with the mail
[00:50] <th3sp00n> bekks: 12.10
[00:50] <grime> Zeptis, try third party programs or windows ones and run it trough wine
[00:51] <darkhelmet46> grime, maybe I should change my approach.  The app stopped working so I am trying to uninstall/re
[00:51] <bekks> th3sp00n: I've never seen interfaces named like that on a stock Ubuntu, I'm afraid.
[00:51] <darkhelmet46> oops
[00:51] <panorain> grime I am at the login window where can I select unity 2d?
[00:51] <darkhelmet46> uninstall/reinstall
[00:51] <th3sp00n> bekks: em1 is regular 1gb and the p1p1 is a 10GBE
[00:51] <grime> th3sp00n, have you checked the settings in network manager?
[00:51] <th3sp00n> grime: it's a headless server
[00:51] <Zeptis> Well, github seems to have something GPL to build, thankfully. Why didn't I just type 'keyfinder' in the first place.
[00:51] <grime> panorain, click the ubuntu logo and a list should pop up
[00:52] <panorain> grime ok
[00:52] <darkhelmet46> grime, but maybe it can be repaired instead?  it was working fine in Wubi, and then I migrated my Wubi install to a dedicated partition, and now it doesn't work.
[00:52] <codephobic> grime, I've been unlucky with video cards, because I always get on-board vga mobos and never want to buy graphics cards (I don't play games - got an xbox 360 gathering dust)... but back in ubuntu 10.04, I had compiz, cubes and everything. It's only since unity (I think) that I can't get that stuff to work any more
[00:52] <darkhelmet46> holy crap, grime is helping a lot of people
[00:52] <grime> darkhelmet46, try purging to remove the program
[00:52] <darkhelmet46> grime, i tried that too
[00:53] <darkhelmet46> grime, the app has a GUI, but it needs to be started from terminal.  It does output some error messages, but I'm not sure what they mean.
[00:53] <bekks> th3sp00n: Could you pastebin "uname -a" and "lsb_release -a" please? I am just curious, since I've never seen those interface on Linux.
[00:53] <grime> codephobic, install gnome-panel to run like 10.04
[00:54] <panorain> grime where is the ubuntu label located for unity 2d in 12.10?
[00:54] <grime> darkhelmet46, hmmm so you removed all the files?
[00:54] <taher> Hello
[00:54] <mapreduce> Hi.  I'm trying to connect to a fortinet VPN, which afaik is just IPSec-based, using ikea, and I'm getting timeouts while establishing the tunnel.  I know that from Windows I don't get timeouts.
[00:54] <th3sp00n> bekks: http://pastebin.com/zJ6rehB6
[00:54] <darkhelmet46> grime, ok check this out. i ran it from a Root prompt and it ran fine.  it only doesn't work when i run it as a normal user...
[00:55] <mapreduce> Is there anything I can do to have ikea match what fortinet's client assumes?
[00:55] <codephobic> grime, I was going to use KDE instead ... similar tricks in there too.
[00:55] <grime> panorain, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[00:55] <dr_willis_> panorain:  there is no unity-2d in 12.10+
[00:56] <grime> panorain, look at the end of that post
[00:56] <codephobic> just reading up on a solution for legacy video card update to catalyst. starts with downgrading X, before installing a patch .. don't like the sound of that, will try it in a VM first!
[00:56] <panorain> grime ok thank you
[00:56] <dr_willis_> gnome-classic is definatly not identical to the old gnome2.. but its close . ;)
[00:56] <grime> dr_willis_, thanks for the help
[00:57] <grime> codephobic, but it depends if your comp can run VM
[00:57] <grime> darkhelmet46, what program is it ,,,,if you dont mind me asking
[00:58] <grime> taher, whats up
[00:58] <darkhelmet46> grime, it is a program called MXIE, it's basically a VoIP/ Instant Messaging app that integrates with our phone system.
[00:59] <bravis> where is compiz
[00:59] <codephobic> grime, I'll try the VM method first, since it would keep most of the "user experience" that I've grown used to...
[00:59] <Neo31web> hello, please provide me with the UGJ channel or launchpad channel if there are any, thanks
[00:59] <taher> We are holding UGJ Tunisia, we are trying to configure our gpg keys but some are recieving "keyserver send failure : keyserver error" and some of as are not receiving their encrypted mails yet, what could be the problem ?
[00:59] <darkhelmet46> grime, so if I do just "mxie" from terminal, it doesn't work.  If I do "sudo mxie", it doesn't work.  But if I do "su" to get a root prompt, then do "mxie", it runs fine.  What could that mean?
[00:59] <dr_willis_> bravis:  what do you mean?   the 'whereis' command can show the path to a binary
[01:00] <codephobic> hmm, wow.... for some reason my 2.4GHz logitech keyboard's just become a lot slower ... not doing anything much, got plenty of RAM on the system (3GB spare) ...
[01:00] <grime> darkhelmet46, have you tried  sudo apt-get --purge -remove mxie?
[01:00] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  check yout env settings..  i bet they are different
[01:01] <darkhelmet46> grime, i did "sudo apt-get -purge mxie", is that incorrect?
[01:01] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  how did you enable su-ing to root? thats normally disabled by default
[01:01] <grime> darkhelmet46, it could be mxie or maybe uppercase
[01:01] <codephobic> what's a "good" load average (in Ubuntu 12.10)?
[01:01] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, you'll have to be a little more specific in your comment about env settings, I'm pretty noobish.  And to your second question, I dunno?  lol
[01:01] <panorain> grime should I update my system before installing unity 2d?
[01:02] <Lice> hrm
[01:02] <bekks> codephobic: Nowadays, the load average is pretty meaningless.
[01:02] <grime> codephobic, maybe 15g to run comfortably in a VM enviornment
[01:02] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  look at your paths and other env settings see the 'set' command output.
[01:02] <codephobic> bekks, how so? I don't particularly understand it but it's a nice number and I'm guessing "the lower the better"?
[01:02] <grime> panorain, yeah sudo apt-get update
[01:02] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  this is a normal desktop install?
[01:03] <panorain> grime ok
[01:03] <grime> panorain, were you able to log in?
[01:03] <iceroot> codephobic: if the load is not higher then your cpu cores, everything is fine
[01:03] <codephobic> grime, hmm that's a little more than I have to spare :(
[01:03] <bekks> codephobic: "the lower the better" - but I've seen systems with a load far beyond 300 to be responsive as just being idle.
[01:03] <iceroot> codephobic: a load of 2 on a 4 core system means the cpu is used by 50% and everything is fine
[01:03] <grime> codephobic, what about 10?
[01:03] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, it was a Wubi install which I migrated to a dedicated partition.
[01:04] <iceroot> codephobic: a load of 2 on a single core system is a high value, so the tasks have to wait because the cpu is on its limit
[01:04] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, to clarify, I don't just type "su" and hit Enter to get root, it does prompt me for my password first.
[01:04] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: the migration didn't migrate ACLs (access control lists). The latest version does. This could be the difference.
[01:05] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  you shouldent be able to 'su' to root...  unless you enabled the root account.  when you do a su, it runs the config files in the users home. ie: /root/ those can have different settings then what your user has when they sudo to root
[01:05] <codephobic> grime, I have 8GB in total, web and mysql VMs eating up 1.5GB, Ubuntu host talking another 2GB, Chrome, Firefox et al another 1.5GB ... not much more than 3GB to spare.
[01:05] <codephobic> ok, I have a load average of 1.08 across the 4 cores of my cpu.
[01:05] <bekks> codephobic: Whats the output of "free -m"?
[01:05] <bekks> codephobic: Could you pastebin it please.
[01:05] <iceroot> codephobic: firefox is not taking 1.5gb real ram
[01:05] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, I think what I did was "sudo passwd" and then it prompted me for a new root password, an that's how I enabled it.
[01:06] <iceroot> codephobic: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:06] <codephobic> 2999MB
[01:06] <bekks> codephobic: Thats not the output of free -m
[01:06] <codephobic> bekks, one moment didn't see the pastebin request.
[01:06] <grime> codephobic, i think 1.5 or 2 should be fine then.....i though you were asking on the hd not the ram
[01:07] <codephobic> bekks, http://pastebin.com/gfMh4PeW
[01:08] <iceroot> codephobic: you have 3gb free ram
[01:08] <codephobic> iceroot, I know.
[01:08] <bekks> codephobic: 3GB unused RAM :P
[01:08] <codephobic> bekks, lol
[01:08] <codephobic> I know
[01:08] <bekks> codephobic: Did you take a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:08] <dr_willis_> wasted ram! ;)
[01:08] <iceroot> codephobic: ok, just because you said firefox is taking 1.5gb
[01:09] <codephobic> iceroot, I was talking about chrome, firefox and a bunch of other apps (biggest being inkscape)
[01:09] <grime> panorain, install gnome-panel if you can not Unity 2D
[01:09] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, halfway tempted to add myself to the root group and call it a day.
[01:09] <codephobic> grime, lol
[01:10] <grime> codephobic, im glad i was able to help this far......i will be leaving soon good think there are others helping
[01:10] <iceroot> this is an example of wasted ram (but 8gb was so cheap) :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5577997/
[01:10] <codephobic> grime, you had me nervous there. I've run ubuntu server in VM with only 512mb ram - for lamp stuff - but I did think Unity with all the frills would require a little more ~ 2-3GB.
[01:10] <grime> darkhelmet46, do it
[01:10] <codephobic> grime, you have a good evening, thanks for the help, the suggestions and the patience :)
[01:10] <Rukouen> hey guys, I'm thinking of setting up a vm for my personal web dev projects but I'm wondering if I should just have one vm in general or one vm per project to keep the environments separate?
[01:10] <darkhelmet46> grime, I thought that was ill-advised?  :)
[01:11] <panorain> grime ok
[01:11] <Ben64> darkhelmet46: most of the things you've been saying here are ill-advised
[01:11] <grime> darkhelmet46, add your username to sudoers file so you can run sudo instead of su
[01:11] <dr_willis_> wonky system becomes wonky+1
[01:11] <darkhelmet46> Ben64, I apologize for my ignorance.
[01:12] <codephobic> iceroot, how (why?) did that happen? why so much cache and swap?
[01:12] <urielsalis> How do i istall ubuntu from windows in a external hard drive?
[01:12] <grime> codephobic, no problem
[01:13] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  you mean a wubi install to a external usb hd? or a full normal install?
[01:13] <urielsalis> a wubi install to a usb hd
[01:13] <histo> urielsalis: Do you know what wubi is?
[01:13] <codephobic> bekks, I read that site before ... when I first used "free -m" and panicked that all the RAM was being used...
[01:13] <darkhelmet46> grime, "sudo adduser username admin"  ?
[01:13] <urielsalis> yes the windows installer
[01:14] <histo> urielsalis: it installs ubuntu as an application inside of windows so to say. Is that what you want?  or do you want to boot off of your USB drive into ubuntu?
[01:14] <iceroot> codephobic: because its good when there is much cache used
[01:14] <iceroot> codephobic: and swap was the ubuntu default size
[01:14] <iceroot> codephobic: free ram is wasted ram
[01:14] <urielsalis> I want to boot ut to my disk drive with ubuntu but installing it from windows
[01:15] <codephobic> iceroot, I thought it was advised not to use too much swap?
[01:15] <iceroot> codephobic: so you want that the kernel is caching a lot
[01:15] <grime> darkhelmet46, no as root go to /etc and edit the file called sudoers then add yourself under root exactly like how root looks
[01:15] <iceroot> codephobic: doesnt matter if you have 2gb swap, 8gb swap or 100gb swap if you dont need the space
[01:15] <histo> !usb | urielsalis
[01:15] <codephobic> I know before the recommended practice was to have 150% the size of RAM as swap, but since the days of 4GB ...
[01:15] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  wubi wont work that way.  why do you want it on usb?
[01:15] <iceroot> codephobic: the system is on a 60gb ssd and 8gb are swap which will normally never be used
[01:15] <histo> dr_willis_: He doesnt' want wubi
[01:16] <darkhelmet46> grime, and what does that do, give me elevated rights but not root rights?
[01:16] <histo> urielsalis: You dont' want wubi you want a to follow the directions from ubotto
[01:16] <urielsalis> Because i want to take ubuntu in my drive as a fully installation(and my disk is 320 gb of unused space)
[01:16] <codephobic> iceroot, I tend to run out of space, however big the drives I buy are.
[01:16] <dr_willis_> i dont think anyone ever wants wubi.. ;)
[01:16] <iceroot> codephobic: there is a 4TB storage on that system, just / is on the 60gb ssd
[01:16] <codephobic> I've got around 4TB of data, work, OS installations and stuff ...
[01:16] <histo> urielsalis: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[01:16] <codephobic> hehe
[01:17] <codephobic> my W7/debian squeeze server is on a 60GB sammy SSD
[01:17] <iceroot> codephobic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578012/  + 500GP LUKS partition which is not mounted at the moment
[01:17] <urielsalis> I WANT A FULL ISNTALATTION NOT A LIVE USB
[01:17] <iceroot> urielsalis: then do a full installation
[01:17] <codephobic> this ubuntu is on a 128GB OCZ (cheapo) SSD
[01:17] <grime> darkhelmet46, it lets you use sudo so that you dont have to run everything as root
[01:17] <panorain> grime I am in Gnome Classic ahh
[01:17] <bekks> urielsalis: You have to create an installation medium before, then use it to install Ubumtu to your USB.
[01:17] <urielsalis> I can do ir from windows?
[01:17] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  then you want to boot a usb/cd. or try doing it from vbox to the usb. (not advised)
[01:18] <urielsalis> because i have run out of dvd
[01:18] <grime> panorain, nice how do you like it?
[01:18] <histo> urielsalis: yes
[01:18] <panorain> grime looking much better
[01:18] <histo> urielsalis: YOu can read that webpage it walks you through creating a bootable usb from windows
[01:18] <darkhelmet46> grime, the ere is a sudoers.d folder and it is empty except for a readme file.  But I don't understand the readme... argh.
[01:18] <urielsalis> wubi install a livecd version or a full instalation
[01:18] <Tex_Nick> wubi = "want unother broken interface" (unother - SIC) @^@
[01:18] <urielsalis> ?
[01:18] <histo> urielsalis: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:19] <codephobic> iceroot, cool... according to nautilus I have 5.6GB of space left on one of my 1TB disks.
[01:19] <grime> darkhelmet46, not the sudoers.d its just called sudoers
[01:19] <bekks> urielsalis: Wubi is a windows application. It isnt a "full installation" as you think it might be.
[01:19] <codephobic> time to delete the porn :(
[01:19] <dr_willis_> urielsalis: wubi installs a wubi version...... its special full type install to a file on the windows drive
[01:19] <grime> panorain, so you should be at home then
[01:19] <darkhelmet46> codephobic, who saves porn anymore?  lol
[01:19] <panorain> grime XTerm is the terminal
[01:19] <urielsalis> So i can use the link that you give me to install a full version of ubuntu in my disk or only a live cd(MEH WANTS FULL)
[01:19] <histo> ffs stop confusing the kid
[01:20] <histo> urielsalis: YEs
[01:20] <codephobic> darkhelmet46, people who used to have lots of free disk space
[01:20] <grime> darkhelmet46, do you know how to use vi or nano?
[01:20] <codephobic> :(
[01:20] <urielsalis> . . .
[01:20] <histo> !usb | urielsalis to install to USB
[01:20] <panorain> grime sudo apt-get update sudo  ; apt-get upgrade then?
[01:20] <histo> urielsalis: to install a live cd onto usb http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:20] <selena2013> panorain you still dont install it ?
[01:20] <grime> panorain, no the terminal should be under accessories
[01:20] <urielsalis> I want a complete instalation in my external HDD i want to know how to do it in windows i dont want a live usb
[01:21] <dr_willis_> i thought he wants a 'full/normal' install to a usb.. but without useing a cd/live usb...
[01:21] <urielsalis> yes
[01:21] <bekks> urielsalis: You need a DVD media or a USB stick to install Ubuntu.
[01:21] <grime> panorain, sudo apt-get update i believe
[01:21] <urielsalis> can windows do it?
[01:21] <bekks> urielsalis: No.
[01:21] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  if you do tricks with vbox it might be doable..
[01:21] <darkhelmet46> grime, the readme actually says "please note that using the visudo command is the recommended way to update sudoers content"  so I did visudo ? and it looks like I need to do visudo -f username ?
[01:21] <bekks> urielsalis: You can create an Ubuntu dvd/usb using Windows.
[01:22] <urielsalis> can you give me a link or tutorial on that
[01:22] <dr_willis_> easier to find a 2nd usb flash
[01:22] <urielsalis> I have run out of cd and dvds
[01:22] <bekks> urielsalis: Then you need a USB :)
[01:22] <grime> panorain, if your not part of sudoers your gonna have to add yourself unless your find on running root
[01:22] <urielsalis> I dont have another . . .
[01:22] <darkhelmet46> urielsalis, go to Staples.  :)
[01:22] <urielsalis> staples?
[01:23] <codephobic> btw, anyone running a headless Ubuntu Server host with VirtualBox (the current release)? Is it noticeably faster than doing so inside of XFCE or some other slim DE?
[01:23] <histo> urielsalis: Use usb please read the websites posted to you
[01:23] <dr_willis_> staples = an office supply store chain in america
[01:23] <darkhelmet46> urielsalis, Staples, the Office Superstore!  Sorry, guess you're not in the US.  :)
[01:23] <histo> codephobic: why would it be faster?
[01:23] <panorain> grime I dragged XTerm button to the top title bar in Gnome-Classic how do I remove the Xterm button I see terminal now in accesories. I jumped a bit
[01:23] <codephobic> darkhelmet46, Staples is here in the UK too (well, London).
[01:24] <urielsalis> How do i full install of ubuntu from virtual box using windows to my external disk drive(wubi detects it)
[01:24] <histo> urielsalis: what is your native language?
[01:24] <urielsalis> Spanish
[01:24] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  install vbox. configure it to have access to the usb.. boot the iso.. do the install.. reboot  from usb.. hope it works
[01:24] <codephobic> histo, I meant the VMs within VirtualBox, because of more free RAM, less background processes etc.
[01:24] <histo> !es | urielsalis
[01:25] <histo> codephobic: is your system really under that much load currently?
[01:26] <histo> codephobic: it will help if your load is high now. Depends on what Desktop Environment you are currently running on how much overhead it's using.
[01:26] <darkhelmet46> wb grime.
[01:26] <panorain> grime!
[01:26] <grime> darkheltmet46, so did you try it? if not google how to add myself to sudoers file
[01:27] <grime> panorain, yo
[01:27] <histo> grime: visudo
[01:27] <codephobic> histo, I'm trying to plan out the optimal way to run Windows 7 in a VM. Currently, it's not too bad, I can use illustrator without any problems whatsoever, but if I play games, browse my network folders as well, I get some sluggishness.
[01:27] <grime> histo, can you help out darkhelmet46 with the sudo thin i gotta go thanks
[01:27] <histo> grime: or add your user to the sudo group
[01:27] <panorain> grime I by accident I dragged XTerm up to my title bar in Gnome-Classic how can I edit my top title bar in 12.10?
[01:28] <urielsalis> no support on ubuntu-es :(
[01:28] <codephobic> my "plan A" was to run VBox on debian squeeze and have win7 play my blu-ray discs.
[01:28] <histo> codephobic: Gaming in a VM doesn't work well due to virtualized video hardware. YOu can install guest additions and get some more performance
[01:28] <histo> urielsalis: Well you won't read what we are telling you here.
[01:28] <darkhelmet46> grime, i am Googline away and not getting very far.  Thanks for your help up to here.
[01:28] <urielsalis> I want to install it from vrtual box to my external hdd and i need a tutorial on that(for a full installation)
[01:29] <histo> codephobic: What's wrong with using linux with blu ray?
[01:29] <brightblack>  anyone know how I can prevent a fullscreen vbox guest from stealing system focus?
[01:29] <histo> urielsalis: that makes no sense
[01:29] <urielsalis> histo, I read that links that our give me but they were for live cd, not for full instalations
[01:29] <histo> brightblack: /j #vbox
[01:29] <brightblack> thanx
[01:29] <grime> panorain, windows button + alt + right click
[01:30] <codephobic> but 1) debian squeeze has an older release of VBox and it doesn't seem to work with my existing VDIs 2) the configuration of blu-rays to watch "natively" is laborious for something that I see as relaxation and 3) I might as well have a fast and responsive windows install lurking ready to use if the need should arise
[01:30] <grime> darkhelmet46, ask histo he knows
[01:30] <panorain> grime thanks I best document this
[01:30] <darkhelmet46> Sooooo... histo... help a brother out?  :D
[01:30] <codephobic> histo, I meant windows games - solitaire on W7 is pretty "graphical", apparently too much for the 128MB virtual gfx that VBox lets me setup.
[01:30] <histo> urielsalis: Do you have more than one thumb drive? Or do you have a machine with linux on it?
[01:31] <histo> codephobic: install guest additions
[01:31] <grime> darkhelmet46, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=261679
[01:31] <histo> darkhelmet46: help with what?
[01:31] <goodtime> yes windows... the ultimit in reinstallments!
[01:31] <panorain> grime when I open a create new document the top of the window is covered by the title bar
[01:32] <codephobic> histo, is there a simple Blu-ray movie player in linux yet? I've seen scripts for streaming decrypted content through a port and then using VLC to playback from that port, but nothing that would be useful for a "Home Theatre PC"
[01:32] <codephobic> histo, I have, I use guest additions to get usb access and to get full screen full resolution rendering of the desktop
[01:32] <grime> panorain, grab the top of the window and pull it down that should work
[01:32] <darkhelmet46> grime, i don't think that's my issue.  I "CAN" user sudo to run things.
[01:32] <panorain> grime I cannot pull the window down
[01:33] <darkhelmet46> histo, here's the sitch.  So I have an app that won't run right when I run it as a normal user or as sudo.  if I run it as root, it works fine.
[01:33] <histo> darkhelmet46: is it a graphical app?
[01:33] <iceroot> darkhelmet46: for gui apps use gksudo
[01:33] <panorain> grime should I install nvidia drivers for my 6600 agp?
[01:33] <darkhelmet46> histo, yes but it needs to be laucnhed from terminal
[01:33] <darkhelmet46> ahhh, let me try
[01:33] <iceroot> darkhelmet46: gksudo command
[01:33] <histo> darkhelmet46: use gksu appname
[01:34] <histo> !bluray | codephobic
[01:34] <darkhelmet46> histo, yep gksudo works.  sweet!  now is there a way for me to run this thing without having to do gksudo?
[01:34] <panorain> grime all open boxes get stuck under the top title bar in Gnome-Classic
[01:35] <grime> panorain, i forgot how to minimize haha
[01:35] <histo> darkhelmet46: What is the application?
[01:35] <panorain> grime I am sudo apt-get update       sudo apt-get upgrade  now
[01:35] <grime> panorain, i gotta go tho ill be back in acouple of hours....ask around im sure theres other that can help
[01:35] <darkhelmet46> histo, I doubt you've heard of it.  It's called MXIE, made by a company called Zultys.  It integrates with their phone system.  It's a VoIP / Instant Messaging app.
[01:36] <panorain> grime all the windows stuck under top title bar  can't see the top of the windows
[01:36] <panorain> ok
[01:37] <panorain> anyone running gnome-classic in ubuntu 12.10?
[01:37] <histo> darkhelmet46: Why does it need root priveledges to run?  You should check with whoever made the applicaiton.
[01:38] <darkhelmet46> histo, the odd thing is, i didn't need gksudo to run it before when I was runnign it from a Wubi install.  This only started happening after I migrated the Wubi install to a dedicated partition.
[01:38] <korn788> hello i just wanted to install nmon on my server today and i get this message " user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[01:38] <histo> darkhelmet46: How did you install this applicaiton?
[01:38] <histo> korn788: did you mess up your password?
[01:39] <histo> korn788: and what is the output of groups
[01:39] <korn788> i haven't touched anything
[01:39] <korn788> whats the command for the output
[01:39] <darkhelmet46> histo, i had to download the tar.gz, then use alien to convert it to .deb, then I used dpkg.
[01:40] <histo> darkhelmet46: Did you download the source code? If so why did you use alien?
[01:40] <histo> korn788: open a terminal and type in groups   and then hit enter
[01:40] <darkhelmet46> histo, because thats' what the instructions said?  :D
[01:40] <histo> darkhelmet46: Was their an RPM?
[01:41] <korn788> m4l www-data
[01:41] <histo> korn788: yeah your user needs to be in several other groups
[01:41] <darkhelmet46> histo, negative, they only provide the tar.gz
[01:41] <abi_> anyone who can help me in django?
[01:41] <histo> korn788: is your username m4l?
[01:41] <korn788> yes
[01:41] <histo> korn788: your user needs to be added to the sudo group
[01:42] <histo> korn788: by an admin user or the user that installed ubuntu
[01:42] <korn788> how would i go about adding it without having to leave putty
[01:42] <darkhelmet46> histo, see http://richarddouglasdenton.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/installing-mxie-on-ubuntu-10-10/
[01:42] <slide> Is there a way to install ubuntu server onto a new drive in windows? or somehow put ubuntu server install onto that drive so it can install itself?
[01:42] <histo> korn788: you can't if you don't have sudo access
[01:42] <panorain> should I have installed 12.04 vs. 12.10  for LTS support?
[01:42] <korn788> i don't even have su
[01:42] <histo> darkhelmet46: give me a minute
[01:42] <korn788> but i can login from putty
[01:42] <histo> !find mxie
[01:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> slide: you need to either burn the server iso onto cd or usb, and then boot from thta
[01:43] <darkhelmet46> histo, if you want to download and look at the tar.gz you can get it from http://voip.waveiton.com
[01:43] <slide> ntzrmtthihu777, is there a way to put it on a usb drive alongside all my other files?
[01:43] <histo> darkhelmet46: Okay well on that page he downloaded an rpm not a tar.gz
[01:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> not that I am aware of; you could always just temporarily transfer said files to you hdd untill its done.
[01:44] <korn788> ive had issues with install Ubuntu server from usb i had to install it via CD
[01:44] <darkhelmet46> histo, holy crap you're right... shit it was like a month ago, sorry i guess my memory is bad.
[01:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> thing is the iso is so small just a normal cd will do, no need for a full dvd
[01:44] <histo> darkhelmet46: This is an issue with that package. You need to contact their support and see if maybe your user needs to be added to some group or something. That's why you need gksu now.
[01:45] <histo> korn788: What user did you use when you installed?
[01:45] <darkhelmet46> histo, ok thanks i'll do that.
[01:45] <histo> panorain: 12.04
[01:45] <korn788> m4l
[01:45] <korn788> thats the only user i made
[01:45] <Tex_Nick> i'm about to install a new hard drive ... after partition & format, i want to perform a thorough scan of the surface for defects ... would "badblocks -sv" be the most standard check ?
[01:45] <korn788> when i installed
[01:45] <codephobic> thanks all, have a good evening... time to go to sleep for me.
[01:45] <codephobic> cya
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, my question: I am currently using irssi within screen in gnome-terminal, I want to create a .desktop launcher that launches gnome-terminal and reattaches to this screen session, how would I go about this?
[01:45] <histo> korn788: and the only groups he's in is m4l and www-data?  You messed up when you added the user to the www-data group
[01:46] <histo> korn788: do you have physical access tot he computer?
[01:46] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: if the application used ACLs (access control lists) then they wouldn't have been copied by the migration (it's been added in the last few days). That could explain why you're having permission problems. Reinstalling should resolve that.
[01:46] <korn788> yea it right next to me
[01:46] <panorain> histo why can I not drag the open windows anywhere in gnome-classic I enabled my top launcher bar to dissapear and can see the top of the window now
[01:46] <korn788> but im logged in from putty
[01:46] <histo> panorain: alt+F7 to move windows
[01:46] <korn788> only because i wanted to go headless
[01:47] <histo> korn788: Well you need a monitor now.
[01:47] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, HI! You were actually helping me with the migration a few days ago, I finally got it sorted!  Dunno if you remember.
[01:47] <korn788> but i can add a monitor and keyboard
[01:47] <histo> korn788: boot in single user mode and fix your gorups
[01:47] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: yes I remember
[01:47] <darkhelmet46> anyway, bcbc2 I did uninstall/reinstall the app, but nada.
[01:47] <korn788> is there a link or guide to follow as i have only one monitor atm
[01:47] <panorain> histo when do I press alt+f7 when trying to move the window?
[01:48] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: that's the only thing I can think of that would explain the difference.
[01:48] <histo> panorain: yes
[01:48] <panorain> histo rather where should I place my mouse cursor?
[01:48] <histo> panorain: it will hilight the window then try using the arrow keys to move it.
[01:48] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, so check this out...  You recall I couldn't install Grub because of the LDM-Blocker, right?
[01:48] <histo> panorain: Is the issue that you never have title bars?
[01:48] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: right.
[01:48] <korn788> while im not new to linux im new to linux servers and i still trying to learn command line
[01:48] <panorain> histo yes titlbars
[01:49] <panorain> histo titlebars-
[01:49] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, and I downloaded Boot-Repair and it wanted to delete a hard drive sector to fix it, and I was scared to do that, member?
[01:49] <histo> korn788: yeah whenever you added your user to the www-data group for whatever reason you wiped out your other groups using the wrong command.
[01:49] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: yip
[01:49] <histo> panorain: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:49] <panorain> histo Ubuntu 12.10
[01:49] <abi_> Need some help in python, any one interested?
[01:50] <histo> panorain: But you insalled something gnome-classic?
[01:50] <korn788> wow and i wanted to do was be able to write to /var/www
[01:50] <panorain> histo yes that is correct I installed gnome-classic via software manager
[01:50] <histo> korn788: yeah what command did you run to add your user tot he www-data group?
[01:50] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, ok so.... i finally backed up my laptop, it took a few days because it kept failing, then finally i ran boot-repair, let it delete the sector, and everything worked fine.  i was stil able to boot to Windows, and no data loss.  lol
[01:51] <histo> !not-unity | panorain
[01:51] <histo> !notunity | panorain
[01:51] <korn788> i don't remember i googled it and it was askubuntu.com post
[01:51] <histo> panorain: gnome-panel is what you wanted.
[01:51] <Sazpaimon> For some reason my EFI boot list only contains "Ubuntu"
[01:51] <Ben64> korn788: basically you need to add yourself to the "admin" group
[01:52] <histo> korn788: hit ctrl+r to do a reverse search and start typing group    it will show you the command in your history
[01:52] <Tex_Nick> abi_:  if you don't get help here, you might ask in #python :)
[01:52] <histo> Ben64: he fried all his othe groups
[01:52] <Ben64> there are no other groups in server version
[01:52] <panorain> histo I will revert to gnome-panel I am running updates to 12.10 right now in terminal
[01:52] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: that's good to know. backing up is a pain, but it's more painful if you don't and then you need it.
[01:52] <histo> Ben64: didn't append the group to his user just assigned it to only the www-data group.
[01:52] <abi_> thank you Tex_Nick
[01:52] <Sazpaimon> I can load windows fine using grub2, but I cannot see any other entries in my EFI firmware's boot listing
[01:52] <Ben64> from my server, groups returns "ben64 admin"
[01:52] <histo> panorain: Yeah you basically don't have a window decorater running for whatever reason.
[01:52] <panorain> histo should I uninstall gnome-classic via software manager before I install gnome-panel?
[01:53] <histo> !uefi | Sazpaimon
[01:53] <Tex_Nick> abi_:  nphope that points you in a good direction :-)
[01:53] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, yeah i know.  i just felt silly.  lol  but i guess better to be safe than sorry.
[01:53] <johnjohn101> is there a channel for the ubuntu touch development stuff?
[01:53] <histo> Ben64: that's not good
[01:53] <Ben64> histo: yes it is
[01:53] <histo> Ben64: If you want it that way I guess
[01:53] <Ben64> thats how server installs are
[01:53] <histo> Ben64: Yes he removed the other group and didn't append the new one is all.
[01:54] <histo> didn't remove it but removed his user fromt he group
[01:54] <korn788> sudo chown -R username /var/www/
[01:54] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: it's not silly. I would still recommend it, even knowing that it worked for you. But maybe an entire disk image backup is overkill (I just backup data normally)
[01:54] <Sazpaimon> histo, yes I've read all over the wiki, it doesn't explain why I see "Windows Boot Manager" in my firmware's boot list but it doesn't show up when I boot
[01:54] <panorain> histo will installing nvidia geforce 6600 drivers assist gnome-classic?
[01:55] <histo> Sazpaimon: you need to install grubs efi stuff
[01:55] <panorain> histo are you firm on stating gnome-panel installation in 12.10 then?
[01:55] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, i'm a bare-metal restore backup kinda guy.  :D
[01:55] <Sazpaimon> histo, grub efi is installed
[01:55] <Sazpaimon> I just said I can load windows using grub2
[01:55] <histo> panorain: Either install gnome-panel or fix gnome-classic to launch a window decorator
[01:56] <histo> Sazpaimon: You just said there is no ubuntu option from your efi boot?
[01:56] <panorain> histo what is the best route for a noob?
[01:56] <Sazpaimon> nom I said " For some reason my EFI boot list only contains "Ubuntu""
[01:56] <histo> panorain: install gnome-panel
[01:56] <histo> Sazpaimon: ahh. Sorry mis understood. Is there a windows efi in your /boot partition?
[01:56] <panorain> histo ok
[01:56] <Sazpaimon> just the oposite, after installing ubuntu my windows boot manager entry dissapeared, and boot-repair didn't fix it
[01:57] <mordonez> Hi guys, is possible to share my wireless connection with another wireless card?
[01:57] <Sazpaimon> histo, yeah, my efi system partition is fine and dandy, it's just something in the firmware is messed up I think
[01:57] <histo> Sazpaimon: and are you sure windows was installed in efi mode?
[01:57] <Sazpaimon> yes, it is
[01:57] <Sazpaimon> I'm gonna try bccedit to see if I can delete and re-add the firmware entry
[01:58] <histo> Sazpaimon: okay then you need to figure out how to edit grubs efi thing to add windows. I'm not that familiar with it but understand some of it.  Some other EFI "expert" may need to help you.
[01:58] <panorain> histo I am uninstalling gnome-panel via software manager
[01:58] <Sazpaimon> histo, I already said "I can load windows fine using grub2"
[01:58] <histo> panorain: Why did you want ot install gnome-panel?
[01:58] <histo> wtf
[01:58] <panorain> histo how long will ubuntu 12.04 be supported for?
[01:59] <histo> Sazpaimon: You just said ubuntu is the only choice?
[01:59] <histo> !lts | panorain
[01:59] <panorain> histo I am running p4 2.8
[01:59] <Sazpaimon> histo, ubuntu is the only choice in my EFI's bootmenu
[01:59] <panorain> ok histo
[01:59] <panorain> histo thank you for your help please bear with me
[01:59] <histo> Sazpaimon: Than how are you loading windows?
[01:59] <Sazpaimon> I dont think you get how efi works, the efi bios has its own bootmenu stored in the firmware itself
[01:59] <darkhelmet46> so any Virtual Box gurus in here?
[02:00] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: have you checked your log files to see if there's anything related to the permissions problem?
[02:00] <histo> Sazpaimon: I don't think you are explaining yourself properly
[02:00] <Sazpaimon> histo, I'm chainloading windows's efi file using grub, but I'd like to be able to boot windows without the help of grub
[02:00] <panorain> histo my pc is a bit slow I do not like unity taking up room on my monitor
[02:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> darkhelmet46: I am fair with it
[02:00] <darkhelmet46> bcb2 i don't know where to look :)
[02:00] <histo> Sazpaimon: Why?
[02:00] <darkhelmet46> ntzrmtthihu777, any idea how i can get a VM to automatically savestate or shutdown when I shutdown or logoff Ubuntu?
[02:00] <korn788> ok so im booted into recovery mode i selected root and now im root@M4L whats next
[02:00] <histo> panorain: Did you install proprietary video drivers?
[02:01] <Sazpaimon> histo, in case I break grub or something, I'd like to have the windows entry in the EFI firmware instead of just grub
[02:01] <Sazpaimon> I know multiple boot managers can coexist in the EFI firmware
[02:01] <histo> korn788: usermod -a -G admin m4l
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, no, lol. maybe using the cli for vbox you can set a script to do it on shutdown
[02:01] <korn788> cool going to give that a try
[02:01] <panorain> histo I have not installed any proprietary video drivers for Nvidia as of yet please help
[02:01] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: I'd start with: tail -f /var/log/syslog  (and maybe auth.log). Then run it and see what you get. I gotta run now. Good luck!
[02:02] <histo> panorain: Click on the gear by the clock and > settings > software sources > Hardware tab
[02:02] <darkhelmet46> thanks bcbc2
[02:03] <histo> panorain: on 12.10  On 12.04 you can go to settings > Additional hardware
[02:03] <mordonez> Hi guys, any of you know how to share wireless with 2 wifi cards
[02:03] <mordonez> ?
[02:03] <mordonez> any ideas?
[02:03] <Nite_shades> ubuntu server channel ????????????anyone
[02:03] <histo> !ics | mordonez
[02:03] <histo> Nite_shades: #ubuntu-server
[02:03] <korn788> admin does not exist
[02:04] <histo> korn788: sudo group
[02:04] <korn788> hold om
[02:04] <histo> korn788: usermod -a -G sudo m4l
[02:04] <korn788> on
[02:04] <panorain> histo what is settings under in gnome-classic?
[02:04] <Nite_shades> ok
[02:04] <histo> panorain: What version of ubuntu is this?
[02:04] <mordonez> I already have donde that but the wifi do not appear on the list of available networks
[02:04] <panorain> histo 12.10
[02:05] <histo> mordonez: Why would you want to do this by the way? Why not just have both machines connect to the wifi?
[02:05] <mordonez> I have completed all the steps and looks ok on my machine but I can see the new wireless network on my cellphone for example
[02:05] <histo> panorain: gnome-control-center
[02:05] <darkhelmet46> histo, i just reinstalled it using different instructions and now it works!  :D
[02:05] <mordonez> the wifi is on other floor
[02:05] <korn788> cannot lock /etc/passwd
[02:05] <panorain> histo load unity from login normally then?
[02:06] <histo> mordonez: So you're using the box a repeater or something?
[02:06] <mordonez> and just one machine can see it
[02:06] <mordonez> yes
[02:06] <mordonez> a very good powerfull card
[02:06] <mordonez> on my laptop
[02:06] <mordonez> connected via usb
[02:06] <mordonez> so I can see it
[02:06] <histo> panorain: What?  open a terminal and type in gnome-control-center then you can go to software sources > hardware
[02:06] <FloodBot1> mordonez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <mordonez> but now I want my laptop to serve wifi for my floor
[02:06] <histo> mordonez: Ahh.  So your phone can see the wifi but the other computer cant?
[02:06] <histo> mordonez: from this computer
[02:07] <korn788> it said cannot lock /etc/passwd try again later
[02:07] <Ben64> mordonez: you should get a wireless repeater for that
[02:07] <mordonez> No, My computer can see the wifi because has connected a powerfull card
[02:07] <mordonez> yeah I know but in the meantime is there a way to do it?
[02:07] <histo> mordonez: create an adhoc network with your other card.
[02:07] <gridwest_user> How do I use SoX to flip a wave 180 degrees out of phase
[02:07] <panorain> histo ok
[02:07] <mordonez> I mean
[02:07] <histo> mordonez: then treat it like a cable
[02:07] <Ben64> korn788: mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[02:08] <histo> korn788: yeah your mounted read only Ben64 command will fix it
[02:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, my question: I am currently using irssi within screen in gnome-terminal, I want to create a .desktop launcher that launches gnome-terminal and reattaches to this screen session, how would I go about this?
[02:08] <mordonez> I already have created an ad hoc network and I am already self connected
[02:08] <mordonez> but is not serving as wifi for other devices
[02:08] <mordonez> like my cellphone for example
[02:08] <korn788> oh thats weird so do ben64 command then the other command
[02:09] <fwaokda> how can i avoid having to install virtual box guest additions after every update?
[02:09] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: create a .desktop for gnome terminal and add the string gnome-terminal -e screen -Dr
[02:09] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: I would gnome-terminal -e 'screen -Dr'
[02:09] <panorain> histo why is gnome classic showing in the ubuntu gear in login window still on 12.10?
[02:09] <mordonez> any ideas?
[02:10] <histo> panorain: huh? gnome-callsic doesn't change the login screen. On the login screen the gear is used to change your sesion that you are logging into.
[02:10] <cyclick> my cd drive is broke so I can't use a live CD to repartition, but I'm looking for a way to repartion my main partition on reboot before it gets mounted, is that possible?
[02:10] <histo> mordonez: Can the other devices see the ad-hoc network?
[02:10] <panorain> histo where is terminal in dash?
[02:10] <histo> cyclick: usb
[02:11] <histo> cyclick: or single user mode
[02:11] <mordonez> no, is not listed, is like it do not exist
[02:11] <panorain> histo this is too kde like
[02:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh derp, I gotta use quotes, thank you histo
[02:11] <histo> cyclick: and move stuff arounjd. I would create a thumb drive
[02:11] <histo> mordonez: How did you create the wifi network.
[02:12] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  in "dash home" type terminal or keyboard shortcut CTRL+ALT+T
[02:12] <mordonez> I add new wireless , then enter a name a password and done
[02:12] <histo> brb
[02:12] <cyclick> thanks histo I will try that signle user recovery mode as I don't think this old computer can boot off usb
[02:12] <panorain> histo thankyou
[02:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> omfg awesome.
[02:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo:  huge thanks on your part
[02:13] <burfl> anybody know off the top of their head whether an "AMD Fusion APU 350D" will support amd64?  otherwise I'll keep digging
[02:13] <burfl> I know this is not an AMD room.. I'm trying to choose my image to download
[02:14] <panorain> histo I entered gnome-control-center in terminal
[02:14] <mordonez> any ideas?
[02:14] <panorain> histo 4 gpg trust created
[02:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> well you could just test it, burfl
[02:14] <panorain> histo now Software sources has loaded ok
[02:14] <panorain> histo I miss dapper drake
[02:15] <burfl> ntzrmtthihu777 that would not cause any damage?
[02:15] <panorain> histo nvidia shows up in additional drivers
[02:15] <korn788> ITS FIXED thats histo and ben64
[02:15] <korn788> thanks
[02:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> burfl: you can just burn it to usb and run it live, no change to your system
[02:16] <panorain> histo additional drivers within software sources states  nvidia corportation nv43 geforce 6600  this device using alternate driver
[02:17] <panorain> histo should I tick the proprietary 173 nvidia box?
[02:17] <burfl> ntzrmtthihu777: right, but will running the wrong instruction set cause any damage to any of my hardware?  I've never tried before
[02:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> as long as you dont do anything freaky in the live mode you should be fine
[02:18] <one> How do I update grub to boot gentoo also
[02:18] <sl33p3r> Join #bitcoin
[02:19] <Ben64> sl33p3r: you need to use /join
[02:20] <sl33p3r> Yeah, thx
[02:20] <darkhelmet46> histo can i try bugging you again?  :D
[02:23] <panorain> ugh is 12.10 really for me I suppose it could be neat to get the latest and greatest I just don't need unity
[02:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn that's awesome, lol. whenever I ctrl-a d to detach from the session it closes the gnome-terminal
[02:23] <panorain> ugh
[02:24] <krux> you don't need to use unity
[02:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> panorain: try Pinguy OS, its an ubuntu remaster without untiy and a really nifty gnome-classic setup
[02:24] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: and unsupported here
[02:24] <panorain> ntzmtthihu77 seriously?
[02:24] <panorain> I understand
[02:24] <Ben64> it's not hard to not use unity
[02:25] <panorain> Ben64 is wastes space I don't need it
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> meh. I like it, and its pretty good out of box
[02:25] <Ben64> panorain: then get rid of it, its not difficult
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> gnome shell is to be discontinued, no?
[02:26] <panorain> ntzrmtthihu777 what about nvidia drivers in pinguy os?
[02:26] <panorain> Ben64 I just might
[02:26] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: no
[02:26] <naegling> I hate amazon ami
[02:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> should be the same setup as ububtu, pinguy os is just basically precise with stuff preinstalled and configured
[02:27] <one> how to hupdate it
[02:27] <panorain> ntzrmtthihu77 could you give me a link?
[02:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> sure
[02:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://pinguyos.com/download/
[02:28] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  i use 12.10 with gnome-classic de ... i did sudo apt-get install gnome-panel ... then on reboot @ login selected Gnome Classic ... has worked great since 3 days after 12.10 was released :)
[02:29] <Ben64> panorain: just keep in mind if you use that, you can't come here to get help
[02:29] <darkhelmet46> ok, so I have a program complaining that it can't access the audio device driver (Linux EsoundD Driver).  Any ideas?
[02:29] <panorain> ok hold on
[02:30] <panorain> please
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I would install gnome-fallback on any new precise install, and a host of other things, but pinguy is almost the exact setup I use
[02:31] <panorain> Tex_Nick I tried  sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[02:31] <x2Fusion> hello.
[02:31] <fwaokda_> I'm trying to set up dual monitors but they're backwards ;/
[02:31] <x2Fusion> Seeing as #fedora is gay.. and can't help with me...
[02:31] <panorain> Tex_Nick reboot?
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> then flip them lol
[02:31] <fwaokda_> how do i set which one is the main monitor with unity?
[02:31] <x2Fusion> with my situation of such,
[02:32] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  yes or maybe just logout and thenback in
[02:32] <Ben64> x2Fusion: we can't help you with fedora
[02:32] <margareta> Hi have a Dell Inspiron with a 3G dongle. It seems to work ok. I would like it to auto start when I turn my computer on as I have my Internet through this dongle.
[02:32] <darkhelmet46> fwaokda, System Settings > Displays?
[02:32] <x2Fusion> Can anybody help me, I'm currently running #fedora 18 ... and I'm attempting from fedora, copy an iso to a western digital external hdd; and then make it bootable.
[02:32] <Tex_Nick> at the lightdm login screen ... click on the ubuntu icon ... then select Gnome Classic
[02:32] <x2Fusion> I'm attempting to make a ubuntu livecd copied to my external hdd, bootable.
[02:33] <panorain> Tex_Nick I am now at login screen in 12.10
[02:33] <fwaokda_> darkhelmet46, ahh i see where the launcher option was... any idea why it would be limiting my resolution options on one of my screens?
[02:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> x2Fusion: should try burning it to usb and then installing to the hdd
[02:33] <Tex_Nick> ok click on the ubuntu icon
[02:33] <Tex_Nick> you should see Gnome Classic luisted ?
[02:33] <panorain> Tex_Nick I did i'm logging in now
[02:34] <darkhelmet46> fwaokda, just a guess, but I'd say either the driver or the device is limiting the resolution and only letting you use what it can support.
[02:34] <one> How do I update grub to boot other kernels manually installed for a dual boot system?
[02:34] <fwaokda_> darkhelmet46, k thanks... maybe i'll just go back to one monitor
[02:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> should be the same, no?
[02:34] <panorain> Tex_Nick no title bar on top desktop switchers work on bottom bar
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyway to configure lightdm?
[02:35] <Tex_Nick> when you say "no title bar" you mean no top panel ?
[02:35] <panorain> Tex_Nick how can I change properties in the title bars on 12.10 running gnome classic?
[02:36] <one> Ubuntu
[02:36] <panorain> Tex_nick I made the top title bar dissapear cause of previous window problems with gnome-classic
[02:36] <panorain> Tex_Nick title bar need to change properties how?
[02:36] <Tex_Nick> if you can see the top panel ... use SUPER+ALT Right Click
[02:37] <panorain> Tex_Nick super meaning?
[02:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> super = windows key
[02:37] <Tex_Nick> panorain: SUPER is the "Windoze Key"
[02:38] <panorain> sweet
[02:38] <Viralfrost> how do i add a user to the sudoers list?
[02:38] <Tex_Nick> :-)
[02:38] <panorain> Son!
[02:38] <panorain> kickin
[02:38] <panorain> how long will 12.10 be supported?
[02:38] <jrib> Viralfrost: just add the user to the "sudo" group with: sudo adduser USER sudo
[02:38] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  18 monts
[02:38] <Tex_Nick> *months
[02:38] <panorain> Tex_Nick thanks
[02:39] <Tex_Nick> np :-) enjoy
[02:39] <panorain> totally
[02:39] <panorain> pretty cool
[02:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> I stick with .04 releases, 3 years support, 5 on server (12.04 is 5 years)
[02:40] <panorain> weather applet coming in hooo ya!
[02:40] <Viralfrost> one more question, how do i log out a user from the command line ... not the current user, but another user
[02:40] <darkhelmet46> ntzrmtthihu777, i thought the .04 was the "beta" and the ".10" was the final?
[02:41] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  if you want to use unity again for any reason ... at login just select unity
[02:41] <one> virtuose: is there nno grub update
[02:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, the .o represents the release month
[02:41] <panorain> Tex_Nick ok   how do I move buttons on the top title bar?
[02:41] <crazyhorse> ok.. are there any decent chat clients for ubuntu
[02:41] <dr_willis_> Viralfrost:  kill the processes they are running. sudo kill pid#
[02:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> right click and select move
[02:42] <panorain> xchat
[02:42] <crazyhorse> i'm really missing limechat on osx
[02:42] <thtanner> crazyhorse: well none will be specific to ubuntu anyways
[02:42] <delfick> hi there, I used gparted to make a copy of my linux partition onto my new ssd. Booting from it works fine and is amazing, but now when I shutdown I get a kernel panic. Does anyone know what I need to do for it to put a vmcore file in /var/crash so I can work out why it kernel panics?
[02:42] <thtanner> but XCast is natively installed
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  SUPER+ALT right click on icons
[02:42] <Viralfrost> dr_willis_: ...theres gotta be something simpler than that
[02:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> I like irssi
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  then select move
[02:42] <crazyhorse> really dislike xchat.... doesn't warn me when i'm pasting multiple rows, doesn't allow me to have a bookmarked list of channels without actually being logged into the channel, doesn't have an aggregate feed of all channel activity
[02:43] <dr_willis_> Viralfrost: why would there be? reboot.. thats simple...)
[02:43] <panorain> Tex_Nick how do I anchor the button after I move it or is it done now by user super alt+alt?
[02:43] <crazyhorse> having said that limechat is better than any other chat client iv'e used
[02:43] <zheng> what's the best candidate of x-chat?
[02:43] <dr_willis_> Viralfrost:  other users could be doung all sorts of things..
[02:43] <crazyhorse> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah i want a gui.. click click, connect to freenode, connect to channel
[02:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, xchat is all I know besides irssi
[02:44] <Viralfrost> dr_willis_: exactly, i don't want to go through and find all the processes that are still running...i'll try rebooting though :P i guess thats the first thing i should've done lol
[02:44] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse: xchat or weechat work for mee
[02:44] <crazyhorse> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah i had good search.. there's some other one that requires you to run a server
[02:44] <panorain> Son!
[02:44] <crazyhorse> weechat: allows you to maintian a list of servers / channels?
[02:44] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  once you've moved it, it will be anchored ... a lot of that stuff has changed over the past few distros, from the way it used to work
[02:45] <crazyhorse> dr_willis: working is the minimum requirement :)
[02:45] <anunnaki> +irssi
[02:45] <bravis> Konversation works too
[02:45] <panorain> Tex_Nick I cannot change weather report quits
[02:45] <darkhelmet46> ok, so I have a program complaining that it can't access the audio device driver (Linux EsoundD Driver).  Any ideas?
[02:45] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse: i imagine weechat can do anything you would ever want
[02:45] <crazyhorse> do any of these ones have any of the features i just mentioned?
[02:45] <thtanner> + google
[02:45] <crazyhorse> ok.. downloading
[02:46] <Tex_Nick> you mean the weather indicator ?
[02:46] <panorain> Tex_Nick yes
[02:46] <dr_willis_> i rarely irc anywhere  else but this one channel.
[02:46] <crazyhorse> basically.. channel list / double click to connect / past warning / single aggregated feed from all chans window <- they are the stuff limechat offers that none of the other ones i found do
[02:46] <thtanner> is it sad i just wine mirc.exe
[02:46] <crazyhorse> haha
[02:47] <dr_willis_> tossed mirc when i found xchat for windows
[02:47] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  right click on the "weather indicator applet" and select preferences
[02:47] <crazyhorse> weechat doesn't run a gui
[02:47] <thtanner> dr_willis_ I wrote a bunch of mirc script that i didnt feel like redoing lol
[02:48] <panorain> Tex_Nick I did what you told me it       "weather Report" has quit unexpectedly
[02:48] <thtanner> lazyness factor: max
[02:48] <bravis> weechat and Irssi are good but if you dont wanna configure then Konversation is for us lazy
[02:48] <panorain> Tex_Nick then dissapears
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> well I just made a launcher for irssi, and I have it in screen so you can sta connected to a certain server
[02:48] <panorain> disappears-
[02:48] <dr_willis_> i use weechat over ssh from my phone..
[02:50] <crazyhorse> konversation wants to install 141 packages and 79mb :/
[02:50] <dr_willis_> so?
[02:50] <panorain> son
[02:50] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  try SUPER+ALT right click on panel & Add to panel "Weather report" ?
[02:50] <panorain> forcast is for new york only bummer
[02:50] <dr_willis_> its a kde/qt app. ;-)
[02:50] <panorain> Tex_Nick yes I was able to add the applet weather report fine
[02:50] <ali> hey people
[02:51] <crazyhorse> dr_willis: so you wouldn't worry about.. just install it?
[02:51] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse: 79mb ? thats trivial...
[02:51] <bravis> i did you can always uninstall if you dont like it
[02:51] <Guest24289> Greetings peopl
[02:51] <crazyhorse> true, true
[02:52] <bravis> 79m is nothing to 500 gb
[02:52] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok once yot select preferences, click the locations tab at the top ... choose a location closest to you
[02:52] <Beginner> Greetings people, what is the smartest way to learn all of the linux comamnds?
[02:52] <dr_willis_> Beginner:  read books on bash.
[02:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> info coreutils is good
[02:53] <panorain> Tex_Nick I do       quits enexpectedly
[02:53] <darkhelmet46> any ideas on this one? http://pastebin.com/ws8YPyM2
[02:53] <panorain> Tek_Nick then I reload keeps dying
[02:53] <Beginner> I will read a book on bash.
[02:53] <panorain> Tex_Nick each time I try to change preferences it fails
[02:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> I got one... I think. pdf, but I lost alot of stuff with a disasterous instal
[02:54] <panorain> Tek_Nick I will bring it down for reboot   system monitors work fine
[02:54] <panorain> stuffs to buggy going back to 10.04
[02:54] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  hmmmm ... my first attempt there would be to do a system restart
[02:55] <panorain> not sure yet
[02:55] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  and/or update system
[02:55] <panorain> Tex_Nick I am selecting gnome-classic  no effects
[02:56] <panorain> Tex_Nick I just updated 15 minutes ago   via   terminal   sudo  apt-get update     then   sudo apt-get update
[02:57] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  hold on let me log out then back in ... brb couple minutes
[02:57] <panorain> Tex_Nick ok sorry to bug you
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
[03:00] <panorain> Dr_Willis how can I install flash plugins on Ubuntu 12.10?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  thers some flash package in the repos that do it
[03:01] <panorain> son my system doesn't seem the same without weather applet
[03:01] <panorain> i'm bummed
[03:01] <Viralfrost> Dr_Willis_: Thanks, rebooting helped...kind of a 'duh' moment for me...
[03:02] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok i'm using just "Gnome Classic" NOT the "Gnome Classic - No Effects" don't really know what the differencer is ... you might try just "Gnome Classic"
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  check the webupd8 and omgubuntu site for weather indicator applets thers some neat ones. not in the default trpos
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> repos
[03:03] <bravis> ok how do i invoke compiz in ubuntu??
[03:03] <panorain> Dr_Willis thank you
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> bravis:  run 'compiz
[03:03] <bravis> oh geez thats all
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> bravis:  unless you want to give more details as to the problem... ;)
[03:04] <panorain> Tex_Nick I may try installing gnome classic through software manager now since I installed nvidia prop driver?
[03:05] <bravis>  Error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[03:05] <crazyhorse> anyone else noticed google chrome seems to be incredibly slow under ubuntu?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> bravis:  so try compiz --replace  ;)
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  not really
[03:05] <bravis> I always thought it was an overlay
[03:05] <slide> I'm having trouble with a usb boot drive. It boots, asks me to install ubuntu server 12.04, and i hit ok, but then it doesn't do anything, just goes to a black screen. this is the guide i followed http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> compiz is a window manager
[03:05] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok, hey i just saw dr_willis was also helping you... dr_willis is 1000 times better than myself ... listen to him ... you'll be in good hands ;-)
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> except i may have to leave soon.. darn real jobs ;)
[03:06] <panorain> Tex_Nick I appreciate all your help
[03:06] <crazyhorse> Dr_Willis: compared to the mac windows versions my windows keep hanging, i have to wait 2 or 3 seconds to switch tabs.. and the debugger window is very choppy
[03:06] <panorain> Dr_Willis thank you also
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  none of those issues here
[03:07] <panorain> Tex_Nick how can I get into the repo's  in 12.10 running gnome-classic?
[03:07] <crazyhorse> :(
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> 'get into the repos' means what panorain
[03:08] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ?
[03:08] <pgib> Hmm... Anyone know of software or an option to throttle CPU speed based on temperature? Basically, I need to throttle the CPU speed once the temperature is getting close to overheating (avoid it shutting down)
[03:08] <Viralfrost> I just changed the username and home directory of a user, do I have to update any config files or symlinks or anything like that? (not for anything added on to the original install, just from a fresh install)
[03:08] <panorain> Dr_Willis the repositories list does 12.04 have the same as synaptic package manager in 10.04?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  you can install synaptic if you want to use it on 12.10
[03:09] <Beginner> hey
[03:09] <Beginner> my penis is huge
[03:09] <Beginner>
[03:09] <panorain> Dr_Willis I would like to install synaptic I am running the software updater right now but it seems so different.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  thats whats called 'progress' ;)
[03:10] <panorain> Dr_Willis pretty slick stuff you reccomend more the software centre now?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use the apt cli tools
[03:10] <bravis> well it did not like that..
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> i rarely touch the software center..
[03:10] <panorain> Dr_Willis I don't like all the point and click
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> become a console commando
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[03:11] <panorain> Dr_Willis I will read more but Ubuntu is getting bloated worse than mint
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> bloat = a vague meaningless term.
[03:12] <panorain> Dr_Willis I am in the process of using GhostBSD as a dual boot
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> one mans bloat is anothers man must have weather-applet
[03:12] <panorain> Dr_Willis you make sense
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> My other pc is a raspberry-pi - ;)  it makes everything seem bloated.
[03:13] <panorain> Dr_Willis besides ppa keys what is the point of running 12.04 vs say 8.04?
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> security updates.. and newer packages
[03:13] <Viralfrost> who really cares about bloat..on today's computers you have more than enough space for anything you want, and as far as speed, it may slow down a bit, but its still hella faster than windows is
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> a 4 yr old os.. is ancient
[03:13] <panorain> i have a p4
[03:13] <panorain> not so fast
[03:14] <phezter> hello
[03:14] <panorain> yo
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> that p4 is more power then my pi has. ;)
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, lol
[03:14] <sebastiansam55> how to fix "bootmgr is missing" with super grub disk?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> but its an arm cpu
[03:14] <Viralfrost> Dr_Willis: what do you use it for?
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all
[03:14] <panorain> Dr_Willis what will happen with linux flash support?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Viralfrost:  znc server, xbmc box
[03:14] <sebastiansam55> internets is not working so well atm would greatly appreciate any help
[03:15] <panorain> i'll shut up I am a noob
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  adobe has allreaddy dumpped it basically.
[03:16] <Viralfrost> luckily html5 comes to the rescue!
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> realplayer  ;)
[03:17] <panorain> Dr_willis you know of Pinguy OS?
[03:17] <panorain> yeah realplayer
[03:17] <panorain> mplayer was cool
[03:17] <Viralfrost> lol...sadly I've come across a couple of sites lately that still use it
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  used it.. dident see much point in it.
[03:17] <panorain> vlc is great now
[03:17] <Viralfrost> realplayer i mean
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> thers some firefox extensions that play flash videos in vlc
[03:18] <panorain> Dr_Willis where should I be as far as a p4 2.8ghz 2 gig ddr1  now   use 12.10?
[03:18] <panorain> Dr_willis or read more?
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  be? what do you mean.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[03:19] <histo> panorain: It's more about your video card for performance with unity using 3d effects for everyhing. Did you install your drivers/
[03:19] <panorain> Dr_willis I just get eery about all the virus and so many password point and click in 12.10 is becoming similar to windows xp with all the easy .deb file to grab for software
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  err.. totally different i how they work..
[03:19] <InFlames> is there a way in terminal to TRULY clear the screen? what i mean is, i want to scroll up and NOT see my previous text
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> omg.. it has icons just like iwndows 3.1!  ;0
[03:20] <panorain> Dr_willis are you familiar with any spyware as of now for Ubuntu?
[03:20] <histo> panorain: Just install packages from the repo. Don't use third party software
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> panorain: Ive not heard of any big security issues with it lately
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> last big security thing was java a few weeks back..
[03:21] <thtanner> There was a zero day kernel exploit
[03:21] <panorain> Dr_Willis packages from the repo please help me hook up synaptic interface with gnome-classic
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> i dont pay attention to the security sites however
[03:21] <thtanner> that affected a large nuber of of machines
[03:21] <thtanner> less than a week ago?
[03:21] <histo> InFlames: reset
[03:21] <thtanner> but its nothing like Windows malware, to answer your question panorain
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  hook up? you install synaptic and run it.. nothing to 'hook up''
[03:21] <panorain> i need synaptic package manager in 12.10
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  so install it?
[03:22] <InFlames> awesome, thank you histo, not sure how i never knew that...
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> !info synaptic
[03:22] <panorain> Dr_willis yes I would like to install synaptic package manager in 12.10
[03:22] <histo> InFlames: I didn't know it duckduckgo lead the way.
[03:22] <histo> InFlames: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26975/how-to-clear-terminal-completely
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  so install it....
[03:23] <panorain> Son!
[03:23] <panorain> Dr_willis ok
[03:23] <InFlames> duckduckgo is just the best :]
[03:24] <InFlames> i should have looked longer i guess
[03:24] <panorain> ixquick rules
[03:25] <panorain> Son!
[03:25] <panorain> I might stick with 12.10 for a bit
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> 13.04 due out  soon. ;)
[03:26] <panorain> i'll be back in a bit i'm a noob like it matters blah
[03:26] <histo> panorain: Did you get your drivers installed?
[03:26] <matlle> hi
[03:26] <matlle> hello?
[03:26] <thtanner> we didnt respond in under 30 seconds
[03:27] <thtanner> lol
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> jello!
[03:27] <matlle> how r u
[03:29] <moes> I did a full install of 12.04 to a usb flash drive..I now want to use the pen drive to install to my hdd...no install button..What can I use
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> a full install cand install to another pc.. a live usb could..
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> set up the ubuntu iso on the pendrive. and set grub2 to boot ths iso file..
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> would be one way
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> 'debootstrap' install method may also work.. but easier to boot the iso
[03:30] <moes> dr wilis..thanks will do the iso
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> i got my desktops pcs set up befor to boot iso files as a easy recovery/fallback/testing feature
[03:32] <panorain> histo Yes
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:32] <panorain> histo I am working on trying to install synaptic packe manager
[03:32] <histo> panorain: Why?
[03:33] <krux> what for..
[03:33] <histo> panorain: software-center should be in default installation
[03:34] <panorain> histo I do not trust software manager completly yet  histo I am working now on installing flash plugin into firefox webbrowser on 12.10
[03:35] <matlle> flash java don't trust
[03:35] <panorain> histo how do I know all the programs don't observe my pc data
[03:35] <panorain> matlle do you use gnu flash?
[03:36] <matlle> yes
[03:36] <panorain> histo do you use gnu flash also?
[03:37] <histo> panorain: I use chrome
[03:37] <histo> so yes
[03:38] <histo> not gnu flash no
[03:38] <histo> adobe flash
[03:38] <histo> Sorry wasn't paying attention to the details
[03:38] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  if you just prefer to use synaptic ... now that you are using gnome classic ... from the applications menu on the top panel ... install it from the "Ubuntu Software Center" at the bottom of the ment ... synaptic ... not many people here use it anymore though ... i still use it at times
[03:38] <panorain> histo no worry thank you for all your help
[03:38] <capnflint> How can I prevent unity from capturing alt to show the menu bar?  I can't find it in the keyboard shortcuts.
[03:39] <Viralfrost> is there a way in gnome classic to make the toolbars act like they do in gnome 2?
[03:39] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you also
[03:40] <histo> Viralfrost: How are they behaving now?
[03:40] <Viralfrost> well you can't add anything to the panel
[03:40] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  you're welcome :)
[03:41] <panorain> histo would you be interested in helping me change appearances in gnome classic I do not like the window buttons in 12.10 standard settings
[03:42] <panorain> I miss Crux
[03:43] <nn0101> wazzzup!
[03:43] <panorain> Son !  hi
[03:44] <ghostx562> hey guys
[03:44] <panorain> hi
[03:44] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  have you looked into a new theme ... i'm currently using a mac look-alike ?
[03:44] <panorain> Tex_Nick I would love to look into a new theme on this desktop
[03:45] <ghostx562> what is the channel name for ubuntu help?
[03:46] <slide> this is it
[03:46] <Aegela> #ubuntu
[03:46] <ghostx562> awesome.
[03:46] <panorain> Tex_Nick do I need to install a new theme for 12.10 or can I just change appearances? this is so different from 10.04
[03:47] <ghostx562> I have a question, im trying to install ubuntu 12.10 but when i get to a menu, it says something about a ata4 error, then it just keeps loading a black and purple screen. help?
[03:47] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203093 ... i'm looking for a few other links now
[03:49] <ghostx562> i am reloading it to a usb again using Universal usb installer.
[03:49] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  http://www.technama.com/2009/ubuntu-themes-61-awesome-themes-for-linux/
[03:51] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you for the links time for me to read a bit eh
[03:51] <ghostx562> finished installing to usb, no errors.
[03:52] <panorain> ghostx562 what is universal usb installer what distro are you using?
[03:52] <ghostx562> using ubuntu 12.10
[03:52] <ghostx562> and universal usb installer is from ubuntu site, to load os to usb for install
[03:53] <panorain> thanks ghostx562
[03:53] <panorain> son these themes kick
[03:53] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  basicly what you would do is create a new directory in your home directory named .themes ... then untar/unzip your new theme into that directory ... that will keep your themes seperate from the standard themes
[03:54] <ghostx562> i keep getting a purple screen that flashes then goes away, then a drum sound over and over,
[03:54] <panorain> Tex_Nick on it right now
[03:55] <jxcl> hey guys I found a bug but I'm not sure where to report it. It has to do with the login window after coming out of a locked screen (not the user select menu)
[03:55] <panorain> Tex_Nick what do I use to load my new theme?
[03:55] <dn4> what do I use to check a wireless certificate in ubuntu
[03:55] <panorain> dn4 ifconfig -a
[03:55] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  then from "system Settings/appearance" choose your new theme ...ununtu has a few already installed, but they are kinda funky ;-)
[03:58] <ghostx562> i get to a screen that says ata4.00  {error} ABR
[03:58] <dmorrison> Having trouble printing with my hp officejet5600 all-in-one
[03:58] <ghostx562> abrt
[03:58] <panorain> Tex_Nick do I need to make the folder hidden instance = .themes in home folder will 12.10 pick it up automatically?
[03:58] <panorain> dmorrison go to synaptic  download hplip also hplip-gui
[03:59] <dmorrison> I did download...
[03:59] <panorain> dmorrison what distro you using?
[03:59] <dmorrison> I hear the printer wanting to print but doesn't
[03:59] <dmorrison> 12.10
[03:59] <ghostx562> im going to download the os again.
[04:00] <dmorrison> seems to be installed correctly
[04:00] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  not sure if you need to make it hidden ... i did ... but yes ubuntu will pick it automaticaly ... by creating that new directory ... your custom themes will be segregated from ubuntu standard themes
[04:00] <panorain> dmorrison I am not familiar alot with 12.10 just installed it today
[04:00] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you
[04:00] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  np :)
[04:01] <dmorrison> just weird it doesn't finish printing
[04:02] <dmorrison> I'll keep reading
[04:02] <panorain> dmorrison I have an all in one hp 6110 office jet problem with text is cannot print 100% of the page I reduced the print size to 76% then prints clearly but smaller I believe at this point I have a hardware issue
[04:02] <ghostx562> is it easy to install ubuntu via wubi?
[04:02] <ghostx562> or just load os to usb then install?
[04:03] <Ben64> ghostx562: wubi isn't a "real" install
[04:03] <dmorrison> I could try that..
[04:03] <dmorrison> Thanks for your time!
[04:04] <ghostx562> ok, im re-download 12.10
[04:04] <histo> !paste
[04:04] <panorain> dmorrison no problem I am a noob
[04:04] <ghostx562> and im going to try again to install from usb
[04:04] <dmorrison> me too
[04:04] <panorain> i need to shut up and read blah
[04:04] <ghostx562> lol :D
[04:05] <agent> I wanted to know if there was anything I could do to return my ubuntu to its original state before a fresh install. Or is a fresh install my best option?
[04:05] <agent> oOOOOo 12.10! is 12'10 stable yet?
[04:06] <ghostx562> i guess.
[04:06] <phunyguy> so I found a bug in 12.04 and I thought it was a kernel issue, but now, 12.04 uses the 3.5 kernel, which didnt have the issue in 12.10
[04:06] <agent> I'm still quite new and get stuck sometimes, resorting here for answers.
[04:07] <phunyguy> when I unplug my laptop I get full 2.6GHz CPU speed if needed, but when I plug it in, I get 1200MHz (tested using Handbrake to encode video)
[04:07] <phunyguy> I unplug power and get 120FPS encoding, plug it back in and get 20.
[04:08] <histo> http://imagebin.org/248633
[04:08] <agent> I wanted to remove the stuff I preformed while trying to correct a wireless issue. Being new, I don't know if that would be a simple solution
[04:08] <histo> phunyguy: cpu throttling
[04:08] <histo> phunyguy: for power savings
[04:08] <phunyguy> histo, yes but it's backwards
[04:08] <phunyguy> when I unplug, I get NO throttling
[04:08] <phunyguy> when I plug it it completely throttles.
[04:08] <phunyguy> plug in*
[04:09] <phunyguy> in 12.10, I would get more even behavior.
[04:09] <panorain> Tex_Nick where are the factory installed ubuntu themes kept?
[04:10] <ghostx562> re trying this again,
[04:10] <phunyguy> histo, I installed the indicator-cpufreq applet, and tried to hard-set 2.6GHz, and it didn't set it.
[04:10] <phunyguy> (normally worked in 12.10 as well)
[04:11] <daniel329> new guy question: ive taken java and visual basic classes, and ive taken the OpenCourseWare classes online at MIT's website, and done other research in general for programing. however, i still dont feel like i can code or create anything that isnt guided by instructions. where is a good place for learning material to learn how to ACTUALLY code, or what opensource projects could i try working on?
[04:11] <Sazpaimon> How can I re-add Windows Boot Manager to my EFI's boot menu (NOT grub's menu) after insalling ubuntu?
[04:11] <Sazpaimon> I installed ubuntu in efi mode, and my Windows Boot Manager entry dissapeared from the OS selection menu
[04:12] <histo> phunyguy: What are you running?
[04:12] <histo> !raring | phunyguy
[04:12] <phunyguy> histo, 12.04
[04:12] <johnjohn101> why did m$ have to mess up the entire infrastructure for dual boot
[04:12] <echinos> what happens after Z?
[04:12] <phunyguy> histo, not raring
[04:13] <echinos> back to A?
[04:13] <histo> phunyguy: let me hunt arround for the setting now.
[04:14] <Viralfrost> johnjohn101: to make the installation process as easy as possible?
[04:14] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  sorry had to go get bevarage ;-) standard themes are in usr/share/themes
[04:14] <panorain> Tex_Nick np  should I unzip my hardy origional theme before moving it to /usr/shar/themes or leave it zipped?
[04:15] <phunyguy> histo this has been an issue for me since the summer, when I first ran 12.04 on this laptop. I ran the beta of 12.10 for a while, but I really like 12.04
[04:15] <panorain> Tex_Nick I need a beverage as well
[04:15] <panorain> Tex_Nick ponder it no rush
[04:15] <panorain> thanks
[04:15] <histo> phunyguy: so frequency doesn't increase under load?
[04:16] <Tex_Nick> panorain: are your themes in harduy zipped ?
[04:16] <Tex_Nick> *hardy
[04:16] <phunyguy> histo, while plugged in, no.
[04:16] <phunyguy> it is hard-set at 1200MHz when plugged in
[04:16] <ghostx562> .
[04:16] <phunyguy> I can understand saving power when unplugged, but when plugged in??   xD
[04:16] <panorain> Tex_Nick I download the http://mariuxv.deviantart.com/art/Hardy-Theme-75628261 in .gz format to my desktop
[04:18] <histo> phunyguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248867
[04:18] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ah ok ... yes ... the themes need to be uncompressed before they will be recognized ... at least that's the way i always see them
[04:18] <histo> phunyguy: You can ignore the 1st step as you are now using kernel based scaling
[04:19] <phunyguy> histo, 2006?  Really?
[04:19] <phunyguy> the kernel isnt the issue
[04:19] <ghostx562> if it works why not?
[04:19] <phunyguy> this works in 12.10.
[04:19] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  but the contents of each theme will need to reside in it's own directory ... & i believe the directory name will be used for the theme name
[04:20] <phunyguy> has worked in 12.10 since the kernel there was 3.5.0_17
[04:20] <phunyguy> the kernel in 12.04 is 3.5.0_23 currently
[04:20] <histo> phunyguy: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq  should be ondemand
[04:20] <phunyguy> sorr 0_25
[04:20] <servvs> so is this the largest channel on freenode?
[04:21] <phunyguy> oops
[04:21] <phunyguy> histo, it says: 1200000
[04:21] <histo> phunyguy: you could sudo echo performance > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:21] <histo> phunyguy: yeah for current freq
[04:21] <phunyguy> histo, you would think the applet does that
[04:22] <histo> phunyguy: it's supposed to . Set it to performanc and check the sys/devices/..... and see
[04:22] <phunyguy> !info indicator-cpufreq
[04:23] <histo> phunyguy: might have found a bug if it's not working properly. Encoding a video should hammer the cpu and force it to max frequency
[04:23] <phunyguy> histo, yeah its still at 1200000
[04:23] <phunyguy> especially plugged in
[04:24] <panorain> Tex_Nick should I copy the theme of my choice whitch is currently in .gz format to the folder I created in my home directory how will  applications>system tools>system settings>appearance>theme pick it up ?
[04:24] <phunyguy> and when I unplug it, the throttle goes away and I drop to about 45 minutes battery remaining
[04:24] <phunyguy> with CPU pegged, and 120FPS encoding
[04:25] <dn4> how do I mount my cdrom it isn't showing up
[04:26] <histo> phunyguy: okay echo the parameter to performance
[04:26] <histo> phunyguy: then check frequency
[04:26] <panorain> Tex_Nick I unzipped to the theme name which is labeled as Hardy_Mariux 2.0 residing in /paul/home/Themes
[04:27] <phunyguy> histo, no change
[04:27] <histo> phunyguy: What are you doing to set it?
[04:27] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  you'll need to extract the .gf ... right now i have a theme on my desktop i haven't installed yet ... i double click on it ... extract the folder within ... & move it to ~.themes
[04:28] <phunyguy> histo, that cat command you posted to change to performance
[04:28] <phunyguy> histo: sudo echo performance > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:29] <histo> phunyguy: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor      What's the output?
[04:29] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok see if that new theme is in "system settings/appearance"
[04:29] <phunyguy> histo: "userspace"
[04:29] <ghostx562> well i quit
[04:29] <panorain> Tex_Nick where is your ~.themes located under /usr/etc?
[04:29] <histo> phunyguy: lol ohh.
[04:29]  * phunyguy facepalms
[04:30] <histo> phunyguy: my command is wrong hold on
[04:30] <phunyguy> I really like 12.04... :(
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  it would be .themes in your users home directory
[04:30] <phunyguy> I just wish it would worl
[04:30] <phunyguy> work*
[04:30] <Tex_Nick> panorain: oh sorry no ... it's in my home directory .themes
[04:30] <panorain> Tex_Nick I have the same directory .themes  do I need to change permissions?
[04:30] <Guest32182> hi
[04:31] <Dr_Willis>  i just get my themes from the webupd8 theme ppa
[04:32] <histo> phunyguy: echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:32] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  i don't think so ... let me look
[04:32] <panorain> Tex_Nick ok thank you
[04:33] <panorain> Dr_Willis checking I really want this hardy theme labeled Hardy_Theme_MariuxV.gz installed on 12.10
[04:33] <phunyguy> histo: now it says "performance" in that file, but the cur_freq is still 1200000
[04:33] <phunyguy> and encoding is still slow
[04:33] <phunyguy> *sigh*
[04:34] <ghostx562> ubuntu 12.04.2 is working right?
[04:34] <histo> phunyguy: how many cpus do you have?
[04:34] <histo> phunyguy: ex: cpu0 cpu1 etc...
[04:34] <phunyguy> histo, it's an i5, dual core with hyperthreading
[04:34] <phunyguy> so 4 cores as far as the kernel is concerned
[04:34] <phunyguy> BUT
[04:34] <phunyguy> cpu0 is still 1200000
[04:35] <histo> that's wierd
[04:35] <panorain> Tex_Nick I believe I may be dealing with emarland window manager at this point
[04:35] <phunyguy> histo, yes and it works perfect in 12.10
[04:35] <phunyguy> ghostx562: it works much better if you mention who you are talking to, so it doesn't confuse people.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  do you even know if thats a gtk2 or 3 theme or what it is exactly?
[04:37] <Tex_Nick> panorain: i really don't know about that ... hey if dr_willis is back for a bit ... he could probably help you in oneline ;-)
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> theres a grrat many old theme 'parts' put there that dont work with the newer stuff.
[04:38] <histo> !who | ghostx562
[04:38] <histo> ghostx562: it works fine. if you are asking the channel
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  if you want the best looking themes, theres ppas with the best oues out that sould work with little hassle.
[04:39] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you for your help
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> thesrs also some themes in the default repos you may want to try
[04:39] <histo> phunyguy: you installed that cpufreq applet package right?
[04:39] <panorain> Dr_Willis please hook me up with the ppa line up of themes for Ubuntu 12.10 thank you
[04:39] <phunyguy> histo, yes
[04:40] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  np ... when the doctor is helping ... i step aside ;-)
[04:40] <histo> phunyguy: can you see if making changes there to atleast the running governor changes the /sys files?
[04:40] <panorain> Dr_Willis where are the extra themes in the default repos located what is the package name?
[04:40] <panorain> Son!
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  ive mentioned 'webupd8' several times now.. omgubuntu may have some also
[04:40] <panorain> Dr_Willis thank you
[04:40] <phunyguy> histo: the same files we did before?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  search for themes. in the package manager. im not on a ubuntu box so cant look
[04:41] <ghostx562> just wondering, i couldn't get 12.10 to install.
[04:41] <ghostx562> going to do, 12.04 then try and upgrade
[04:42] <histo> phunyguy: just cat them to see their contents
[04:42] <phunyguy> histo, it didn't change them
[04:42] <panorain> Tex_Nick how do I find which gtk version is running on my machine?
[04:43] <histo> !bug | phunyguy
[04:43] <phunyguy> it seems the "userspace" portion is broken
[04:43] <phunyguy> histo: what package would that be related to? it does it regardless of that applet
[04:43] <histo> phunyguy: yeah please filea  bug and post cat /proc/cpuinfo   also
[04:43] <histo> phunyguy: kernel
[04:43] <phunyguy> histo I wish it was kernel related
[04:43] <histo> phunyguy: and probably something with your hardware
[04:43] <phunyguy> it is not.
[04:43] <phunyguy> I said that, right?
[04:44] <phunyguy> 12.10 is on 3.5 kernel
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: it is kernel related.
[04:44] <phunyguy> 12.04 is now on 3.5 kernel.
[04:44] <phunyguy> same kernel branch.
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: depends how you installed 12.04
[04:44] <phunyguy> histo, 12.04.2
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: uname -a
[04:44] <phunyguy> it is 3.5 kernel.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> m.webupd8.org/search/label/eyecandy     for all my themeing and eyecandy needs. ;)
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: If you installed 12.04.1 and upgraded to 12.04.2 you do not have 3.5
[04:44] <phunyguy> histo 3.5.0-25-generic
[04:45] <phunyguy> I already said this
[04:45] <moog1> i have a bug with sakis3g..... somebody can help me ?
[04:45] <phunyguy> it's not kernel related.
[04:45] <panorain> Dr_Willis I just loaded up webupd8 remember I am using gnome classic
[04:45] <phunyguy> unless they compiled the 2.5 kernel for 12.04 missing something
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  you are on your own then. i dont see much point in using gnome classic
[04:46] <histo> phunyguy: so it works in quantal with the 3.5 kernel?
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo, yes
[04:46] <histo> phunyguy: you tested the ondemand scaling?
[04:46] <phunyguy> has since 3.5.0_17
[04:46] <histo> phunyguy: and cat'd the /sys....
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo, yes
[04:46] <histo> On the same hardware?
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo, in 12.10 it works perfect
[04:46] <panorain> Dr_Willis I have only a p4 here not a core2duo
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo yes
[04:46]  * phunyguy facepalms.
[04:47] <histo> phunyguy: well it's kernel related I don't know what to tell you.
[04:47] <moog1> i have a bug with sakis3g..... somebody can help me ?
[04:47] <ghostx562> drdy error, any one knows what that is?
[04:47] <panorain> Dr_Willis how can I input a command in terminal to inform me of what gtk version I am using?
[04:47] <phunyguy> histo I was asking what package to file the bug on, if the 3.5 kernel works in 12.10, I cant make myself file a bug against it.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> panorain:   12.10 used gtk3
[04:48] <histo> !info linux-image-generic precise | phunyguy
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  for a low end system i would use lubuntu over gnoem classic. ;)
[04:48] <panorain> Dr_Willis does 12.10 with gnome classic still have gtk3 enabled?
[04:49] <phunyguy> histo, it is 3.5 kernel
[04:49] <phunyguy> ><
[04:49] <panorain> Dr_Willis that's what i'm thinking
[04:49] <histo> phunyguy: hold on
[04:49] <moog1> when i try to connect it tell me "failed to connect"
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  gnome-classic is NOT the old gnome.. its just a look alike.. so yes. i do belive its using gtk3 so that adds even more confusion to the mix
[04:50] <phunyguy> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578301/
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  and i hear the next (?) relese of gnome is supposed to have its own gnome-2ish theme.
[04:50] <panorain> Dr_Willis what about gtk 3.6 alot of the themes are GTK 3.6
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  thats the newest relase of gnome. its avilabe via ppa's im using it on my desktop
[04:50] <ghostx562> i can't get ubuntu to run or install on my pc.
[04:50] <histo> phunyguy: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[04:50] <ghostx562> anyone have any ideas?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> 3.8 gnome ive read is supposed to have a lot of improvements.. ;)
[04:51] <histo> !details | ghostx562
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> or was that the right version.. i dont pay attention to gnome news
[04:51] <panorain> Dr_Willis heh
[04:51] <phunyguy> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578304/
[04:51] <moog1> somebody knows sakis3g ???
[04:52] <panorain> I am beginning to like the terminal more each day
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> moog1:  is it an animal, vegatable, mineral, or person?
[04:52] <ghostx562> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.10 onto my pc. it loads then i am having a problem with the computer giving me an error with ata4.00 . it says drdy error, then it stays at a purple screen that keeps loading over and over.
[04:52] <ghostx562> And the OS Will not install.
[04:52] <moog1> it is a soft
[04:53] <panorain> ghostx562 perhaps your .iso did not have a good checksum
[04:54] <histo> phunyguy: then file on linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[04:54] <ghostx562> panorain, i have download the OS 3 times from ubuntu website, any other suggestions?
[04:54] <panorain> ghostx562 try downloading the .iso file again do not use the linuxfreedom server
[04:54] <eN_Joy_> my port 80 is open to all, but still from time to time i have access blocked to that port, does anyone have a similar problem?
[04:54] <panorain> ghostx562 ok sorry
[04:54] <Guest44950> hello, I'm trying to apply a patch file for some source code, I entered patch -p1 sensor.patch and terminal seems to be stuck on something
[04:54] <ghostx562> panorain, is there like a torrent option?
[04:54] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : panorain originally asked for an older look/feel to 12.10 unity ... i recommended ... sudo apt-get install gnome-panel ... was that stupid advice ... if so i need to knowso ican not do it again ;-)
[04:54] <panorain> ghostx562 I am a noob
[04:54] <phunyguy> histo, that seems so wrong.... it works in quantal
[04:54] <phunyguy> :(
[04:55] <Guest44950> is that the correct command to apply a patch file?
[04:55] <ghostx562> panorain, its ok ill search on the site.
[04:55] <trism> Guest44950: patch reads patch files from stdin by default, so: patch -p1 < sensor.patch;
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: okay well perhaps someone else can tell you what package
[04:56] <Guest44950> ok great, thank you
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: Try the 3.2 kernel and see if the issue is there.
[04:56] <phunyguy> histo, the issue was there with 3,2
[04:56] <panorain> ghostx562 I am just excited sorry for bugging you guys so much
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: you didn't even know how to cat /sys/.... so how do you know that?
[04:56] <phunyguy> Its why I used the 12.10 release from alpha on
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: or how were you checking earlier?
[04:57] <panorain> I am headed back to gnome 2 most likely anyways with dillo
[04:57] <panorain> all this new stuff is wild
[04:57] <phunyguy> histo: a simple "cat /proc/cpuinfo" would tell me the freq
[04:57] <holstein> gnome2 is EOL
[04:57] <phunyguy> histo: don't need fancy cat commands for that
[04:57] <histo> phunyguy: then file it with the acpi-cpufreq module
[04:58] <panorain> holstein then i'll run fluxbox
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  i suggest you try lubuntu on low end hardware
[04:58] <panorain> i'm just hangin out
[04:58] <histo> phunyguy: what is the maximum step in cpuinfo?
[04:58] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  i might have given you bad advice for switching to gnome classic ... i'm using it, have had to tweak several things ... but it's been flawless for the most part ... if you find support problems with it though ... might be best for you to just revert bact to unity
[04:58] <holstein> panorain: i find XFCE to be a lot like gnome2 was
[04:58] <phunyguy> histo: "stepping"?
[04:58] <phunyguy> or max speed?
[04:59] <panorain> Tex_Nick I just need to read more you give awesome advice and thank you
[04:59] <histo> phunyguy: max speed
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> the gnome-classic-fallabck stuff has always been a bit of a after thought tossed in to keep people from complainng too much, while the gnome-devs work on what they really want to focus on... gnome-shell
[04:59] <phunyguy> histo, 2.6GHz
[05:00] <panorain> holstein fair enough maybe dapper drake somehow get a browser that still works  it's all good
[05:00] <panorain> your all very helpful
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> for an decent old skool light desktop. lubuntu is hard to beat
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> no need to go back to obsolete old relesaes or mess with barely-developed gnomeish-2ish look alikes. ;)
[05:02] <histo> phunyguy: cpufreq-info | pastebinit
[05:03] <panorain> Dr_Willis I have to say hardy heron days I wanted to just learn more about tor etc I don't need all the fancy widgets
[05:03] <ghostx562> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.10 over windows 8, any specific steps i need to take?
[05:03] <phunyguy> histo  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578326/
[05:04] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : i'm going to take that as good advice for myself ... and not recommend gnome classic in the future :-)
[05:04] <panorain> heh
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> ghostx562:  be sure you got  a full set of restore disks made juat in case you need to put windows 8 back on
[05:04] <phunyguy> histo, I can already see.... current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.20 GHz.
[05:04] <phunyguy> o.O
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  we will have to see what happens with the gnome-shell - gnome2ish them ive heard mentioned...
[05:05] <histo> phunyguy: can you pastebin that from 12.10? I'm assuming it's the ondemand problem
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  but i bet lubuntu will still be lighter then that gs+g2theme
[05:05] <histo> phunyguy: the range for it.
[05:05] <phunyguy> uhhh... I dont have 12.10 installed......
[05:05] <phunyguy> :(
[05:05] <phunyguy> but I can boot livecd real quick
[05:06] <phunyguy> gimme about 10
[05:06] <histo> k
[05:06] <ghostx562> Dr_Willis: i originally had ubuntu but tried out windows 8 just to see all the hype and im trying to go back to ubuntu, but can't get it to install.
[05:06] <panorain> i figure with knowing little having limited skill i was lucky to learn about ralink chipsets let alone other operating systems then windows
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> ghostx562:  use gparted from a live cd to partition the hd beforhand perhaps?  i never used win8. so cant advise more
[05:07] <ghostx562> Dr_Willis: I"ve no CD Drive.
[05:07] <histo> phunyguy: I can confirm it's workign on my laptop
[05:08] <phunyguy> histo, on 12.10?
[05:08] <histo> phunyguy: in 12.10
[05:08] <phunyguy> histo, ok I am creating a bootUSB now
[05:08] <nn0101> !tell ghostx562 about liveusb
[05:08] <phunyguy> I will get you the info
[05:08] <histo> phunyguy: k.
[05:08] <histo> phunyguy: you'll have to install cpufrequtils  to see that range
[05:08] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : i've never tried lubuntu ... i just ordered components for a cheap box from newEgg ... just for a test platform ... do me a favor ... when you see me giving crazy advice ... kick me in the backside REAL hard ;-)
[05:08] <phunyguy> histo, that's ok.
[05:09] <histo> phunyguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578332/  It should look like this
[05:09] <panorain> haha
[05:09] <histo> phunyguy: lines 11-13 in yours is wrong
[05:09] <panorain> Son!
[05:09] <histo> phunyguy: A bug
[05:09] <phunyguy> histo, thanks
[05:09] <panorain> Tex_Nick you rule  you ever run emerald in linux mint?
[05:10] <phunyguy> I will load up xchat in the liveusb
[05:10] <histo> phunyguy: k
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> emerald is basically a dead project.
[05:11] <panorain> Son
[05:11] <ghostx562> nn0101, thanks :D
[05:11] <histo> panorain: why do you keep saying son?
[05:11] <panorain> sorry
[05:11] <panorain> just excited
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  i install lubuntu on most every box i have. ;)
[05:11] <phunyguy> !ot | panorain
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> !emerals
[05:11] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  no ... i'm kinda still living in the days od minix ... i played with mint for bout a week though ;-)
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> !emerald
[05:14] <panorain> I best close my flap at this point and observe
[05:14] <Guest44950> Hi again, I did a   'git clone git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git ValidationKernel'  into a working directory but I don't see any of the files or directories I cloned, am I missing something
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> normally someone asks for an emerald alternative after i post that factoid....    ;)
[05:16] <panorain> there is none
[05:16] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : thanks for the input there ... i'll put lubuntu on this new box in a couple days ... you might have taught an old dog a new trick ;-)
[05:16] <Guest44950> is there a way to change my name in XChat? I can't find the option
[05:16] <Laogeodritt> Guest22253: /nick new_nickname_here
[05:16] <ghostx562> its usually in a menu when you open it
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> irc basics Guest44950    /nick I_love_Ubotu
[05:16] <ghostx562> that works also
[05:17] <phunyguy_> histo, what was that cpufreq package/
[05:17] <Sazpaimon> how do I restore the windows boot manager using efibootmgr?
[05:17] <histo> phunyguy_: sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils
[05:17] <histo> phunyguy_: also pastebinit
[05:17] <histo> phunyguy_: then you can cpufreq-info | pastebinit
[05:17] <phunyguy_> histo, package not found
[05:17] <ghostx562> It's Alive!
[05:17] <histo> !info cpufrequtils
[05:18] <tozen> exit
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: enable the universe repo and apt-get update
[05:18] <phunyguy_> histo, it may not work on live.
[05:18] <phunyguy_> ok
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: sure it will
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: there is no difference between live and installed
[05:18] <phunyguy_> got it
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: In the software aspect it's just a configuration difference with the users /swap etc...
[05:19] <dmitryp> hmm sorry about asking again, I need help with a git command, I entered 'git clone git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git ValidationKernel'  into a working directory but I don't see any of the files or directories there
[05:19] <phunyguy_> aaaand it wont install, hence why that repo is disabled I'm sure, histo
[05:20] <histo> phunyguy_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the universe repo
[05:20] <phunyguy_> histo I did it through software-sources
[05:20] <phunyguy_> and it sees it there, but the install process fails.
[05:20] <phunyguy_> want a pastebin>
[05:20] <phunyguy_> ?
[05:21] <phunyguy_> nevermind, it was another package that failed histo
[05:21] <histo> phunyguy_: k is it installed now?
[05:22] <phunyguy_> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578355/
[05:22] <phunyguy_> it works there
[05:22] <phunyguy_> histo 3.5.0_17 kernel
[05:22] <phunyguy_> (older)
[05:22] <histo> phunyguy_: yeah the ondemand governer is working
[05:23] <histo> phunyguy_: it's working here in 3.5.0-24
[05:23] <phunyguy_> see what I mean about the package to file a bug against?
[05:23] <histo> phunyguy_: the kernel in precise that you were running is the issue. That stuff is all handled by the kernel
[05:23] <phunyguy_> histo, it's 3.5.0_25 kernel there
[05:23] <phunyguy_> brb
[05:24] <histo> phunyguy_: that's for versioning so that you can't upgrade to incremental releases
[05:24] <phunyguy_> and it was the same with the 3.2 kernel
[05:24] <dmitryp> would anyone mind helping me with the command to close the repository?
[05:24] <phunyguy_> so you still think its that kernel package, the quantal-lts dealy?
[05:24] <dmitryp> clone*
[05:25] <histo> phunyguy_: Yes.
[05:26] <histo> phunyguy_: frequency scaling is messed up on your hardware running that kernel. I don't have a 12.04.2 install or I would check.
[05:26] <robotnut> anyone using ubuntu on phone or tablet?
[05:27] <histo> !phone | robotnut
[05:27] <allaire> I'm doing a ps aux | grep foo and it returns Warning: /boot/System.map-3.5.0-17-generic has an incorrect kernel version. -- Any ideas?
[05:27] <dmitryp> can anyone read this?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> theres also #ubuntu-arm
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> dmitryp:  yes.
[05:27] <dmitryp> great, is my noob question being ignored?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> !patience
[05:28] <histo> dmitryp: close what repo?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> or no one knows...
[05:28] <doomlord> wireless network appears to be disabled ,lshw says ... how to rectify?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> i just use apt-cacher-ng  to cache repos
[05:28] <dmitryp> ok I guess i'll look online some more
[05:28] <holstein> dmitryp: i personally dont understand the question.. youa re trying to clone the PPA you have created?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> dmitryp:  check askubuntu.com
[05:28] <dmitryp> can I do that with gitorious?
[05:28] <dmitryp> ok
[05:28] <doomlord>        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.5.0-25-generic firmware=<IP_ADDRESS> latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
[05:29] <doomlord>   *-network DISABLED
[05:29] <histo> dmitryp: Oh you had the git clone problem?
[05:29] <robotnut> anyone using ubuntu on phone or tablet?
[05:29] <dmitryp> yep
[05:29] <holstein> !phone
[05:29] <doomlord> (the wireless network works under windows, but under ubuntun its disabled.. there's an indicator light that comesup)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> robotnut:  ask in the #ubuntu-arm or #ubuntu-touch channels
[05:29] <dmitryp> I used git clone '...' foldername, it did everything correctly but I could not findthe folder afterwards
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> 'touch' what an innovative name....
[05:30] <histo> dmitryp: why the space there?
[05:30] <robotnut> thx
[05:30] <doomlord> also, anyone know of a desktop pager which does thumbnailing ?
[05:30] <dmitryp> I'm sorry, which space?
[05:30] <panorain> Tex_Nick I know this is off topic but check out http://ghostbsd.org/ when you have time
[05:31] <histo> dmitryp: git clone somesitefoo_space_folder
[05:31] <histo> dmitryp: try git clone pathtoproject
[05:32] <histo> dmitryp: Oh I got you ... You are trying to create a new directory
[05:32] <rumblebumble> need some help with 12.
[05:32] <AcidRain> i have ubuntu 11.04. how can i install cinnamon on this? or someones preffered desktop environment
[05:32] <histo> dmitryp: do you have write access to whatever folder you are in that you are trying to clone to?
[05:33] <holstein> AcidRain: i would look for a PPA for cinammon
[05:33] <histo> !eol | AcidRain
[05:33] <dmitryp> yes, and when I try it again, it says folder already exists
[05:33] <histo> AcidRain: upgrade soon
[05:33] <dmitryp> however I cannot see it, maybe there is nother command i need to enter
[05:33] <rumblebumble> need some help with 12.10. I paired up my blurtooth mouse, it works great. if it is disconnected, it does not auto re-connect like it has in the past.
[05:33] <AcidRain> histo, if u cant help me. plz dont spam channel with undeeded information
[05:33] <AcidRain> thx
[05:33] <histo> dmitryp: what directory name are you using?
[05:33] <rumblebumble> How do I fix this
[05:34] <holstein> rumblebumble: i would expect to reconnect.. thats not an option?
[05:34] <histo> AcidRain: I'm trying to help you.... you are approaching end of lief
[05:34] <remon__> Hi, I installed webcam studio on Ub 12.10 . The application loads, but , there is no output. I added video to my usser group. but without any succes. Preview works fine but i cant seem to find the virtual cam to use the java web applet. Any ideaś?
[05:34] <AcidRain> histo, my life is long.
[05:35] <holstein> AcidRain: nothin is preventing you from adding cinammon, though cinammon is not supported here, and 11.10 is EOL soon, and histo has pointed out[C[C
[05:35] <ghostx562> acidrain, that means that support for that version of the OS will no longer be offered.
[05:35] <histo> AcidRain: Nope actually your version of ubuntu is end of life nevermind
[05:35] <jeetpei> :D
[05:35] <remon__> for example when i use manycam on ehum windows it will let me choose the virtual cam of manycam in the java applet.
[05:35] <histo> AcidRain: It's not supported anymore.
[05:35] <jeetpei> AcidRain: i guess histo talking about your Ubuntu's life
[05:36] <dmitryp> histo: I'm using '/home/dmitry/aptina/ValidationKernel'
[05:36] <remon__> i guess it should be looped some how. any ideaś?
[05:36] <histo> dmitryp: can you please copy and paste the ocmmand you are typing in here.
[05:36] <AcidRain> histo, so what your saying is that its impossible for me to add a ppa to my resources and install cinnamon?
[05:37] <histo> dmitryp: or pastebinit
[05:37] <AcidRain> histo, i dont want to lose my files
[05:37] <histo> AcidRain: then upgrade I'm giving you the instructions but you don't "want my help"
[05:37] <histo> good luck
[05:37] <dmitryp> git clone git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git ValidationKernel
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> a ppa may not support that release AcidRain
[05:37] <AcidRain> histo, but if i upgrade. will my files still be there?
[05:37] <rumblebumble> holstein, No it is not
[05:37] <histo> !eol > AcidRain
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  allways keep backups..
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> ugrade keeps your home files.. but keep backups...
[05:38] <rumblebumble> holstein, I actually have to delete the device to get it to reconnect
[05:38] <histo> dmitryp: what's the output of pwd
[05:39] <Sazpaimon> how do I restore the windows boot manager using efibootmgr?
[05:39] <dmitryp> histo: what is a pwd?
[05:39] <histo> dmitryp: print working directory. I think you are confused as to where you are.
[05:39] <rumblebumble> holstein, there must be a regression somewhere in 12.10 wrt to bluetooth
[05:39] <holstein> rumblebumble: could be
[05:39] <dmitryp> histo: /home/dmitry/aptina/driver
[05:40] <histo> dmitryp: okay then cd /home/dmitry/aptina/ValidationKernel
[05:40] <histo> dmitryp: okay then cd /home/dmitry/aptina/driver/ValidationKernel
[05:40] <histo> dmitryp: sorry second one.
[05:40] <c2tarun> can anyone help me in configuring conky. I am facing certain problems: I mentioned all problems here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121456
[05:40] <dmitryp> histo: either of the two gives m ea no such fiile or directory error
[05:41] <histo> dmitryp: You are in the driver directory cloning a git source into the ValidationKernel directory.  Do you understand this?
[05:41] <histo> dmitryp: You already stated it was giving you an error that the file exists.
[05:41] <dmitryp> correct
[05:41] <histo> then it's there
[05:41] <dmitryp> exactly
[05:42] <holstein> c2tarun: i would just remove parts, and try and see what the issue is... i usually just run conky from the terminal when testing, so its easy to kill and spawn
[05:42] <dmitryp> it gives me an error when I try the git clone, but no file or directory error when I try to CD
[05:42] <histo> dmitryp: open a terminal type your git command in and then do an ls after it's done. Pastebin the output
[05:42] <remon__> in /dev i have both the virtualcam and my webcam listed. Any idea's?
[05:42] <dmitryp> A directory already exists and is not empty when I try the git clone
[05:42] <histo> !paste | dmitryp
[05:43] <c2tarun> holstein, yup, but now its not even working from terminal, if I remove conky and reinstall again, it'll run but on reboot again I am facing same problem.
[05:43] <histo> c2tarun: there is #conky
[05:43] <c2tarun> histo, yeah, everyone seems to be sleeping there. So I thought if anyone here can help me.
[05:44] <holstein> c2tarun: i would remove *parts*.. and test.. try and determine which part of the config is bad
[05:44] <crazyhorse> i'm trying to switch from osx -> ubuntu but at the moment i have a major blocker which is the speed of google chrome.  It's incredibly slow, tabs crash and hang regularly (note it works perfectly under both windows 8 / xp / osx 10.7 / osx 10.8.  I develop web-based information system so i spend nearly all day inside chrome and the debugger panel
[05:44] <c2tarun> holstein, ok, let me try to grab default template and test if its working or not
[05:44] <crazyhorse> i can't work out what's causing the issue, i have plenty of ram left, it's the newest version of chrome.  I'm running 12.04 (only 1 day old)
[05:45] <dmitryp> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578393/
[05:45] <dmitryp> it's there, but I don't see it in file browser
[05:45] <holstein> crazyhorse: start witha fresh config.. i use chrome al the time, and it works great
[05:45] <crazyhorse> holstein: haha, works for me.. doesn't help :(
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  you did auto start it via a script with like a 10 second delay?
[05:46] <c2tarun> holstein, hmm... its odd, there was two files .conkyrc~ and .conkyrc.swp, I deleted them manually and conky started working.
[05:46] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, sorry, I am not getting, can you please rephrase.
[05:46] <holstein> crazyhorse: sure, thats what i included the comment about removing your current config... i just say "it works" so you know its possible.. otherwise, i would say, just remove it if it didnt work
[05:46] <crazyhorse> holstien: i just installed it
[05:46] <crazyhorse> holstein: and i had the same issues in chromium
[05:47] <holstein> crazyhorse: there should be a config there.. or try as a different user
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: the conky faq details how to properly auto start conky. it must wait untill the desktop is loaded.
[05:47] <holstein> crazyhorse: chromiume works fine too
[05:47] <holstein> chromium*
[05:47] <AcidRain> so if i upgrade to 12.04, your telling me that i wont lose files?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: or it may get hidden
[05:47] <crazyhorse> holstein: hang on.. it's a blank install.. i've not changed anything
[05:47] <histo> dmitryp: in your file browser hit ctrl+l  and type in /home/aptina/driver/
[05:47] <holstein> AcidRain: you should have backups anyway
[05:47] <crazyhorse> holstein: installed.. started trying to load webpages thats it
[05:47] <AcidRain> so whats that mean? its a possibility that i lose everything, though i shouldnt?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  power failure during upgrade is never good...
[05:47] <coolroot>  /msg NickServ identify 1234abcd
[05:48] <AcidRain> are yall sure this is safe after i backup?
[05:48] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, okay, now I got that why conky is not working in startup applications :P, can you please see my last post in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121456   can you please see the problem I am facing in changing font colors, please see if you can suggest something.
[05:48] <dmitryp> histo: ok, and then?
[05:48] <jeetpei> AcidRain : no its not ; but always have backup
[05:48] <panorain> Dr_Willis can you give me an apt package for gtk3 that will give me more themes fast in 12.04?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  better to backup now.. then to learn how to recover later
[05:48] <histo> dmitryp: Do you see it now?
[05:48] <holstein> crazyhorse: have you applied all upgrades?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  nope. im on my phone.
[05:48] <crazyhorse> holstein: which upgrades?
[05:48] <histo> dmitryp: Specifically the ValidationKernel directory
[05:48] <panorain> Dr_Willis ok sorry
[05:49] <crazyhorse> holstein: oh general OS upgrades?
[05:49] <holstein> crazyhorse: any system upgrades that might be breaking your setup
[05:49] <crazyhorse> ah no.. i'll reboot and give that a go :)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  i just use the ones from webupd8
[05:49] <holstein> crazyhorse: you can also start google-chrome from the terminal and see if you see any helpful error messages
[05:50] <dmitryp> histo: no I don't see it, however, when I typed cd ValidationKernel I was taken to /.local/share/Trash/files/driver/ValidationKernel$
[05:51] <holstein> AcidRain: you need to just have backups... imagine *when* that hard drive fails.. plan for that, and then you cant do anything you cant recover from easily
[05:51] <histo> dmitryp: What sort of experience do you have with linux?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> hard drives seem to be the biggest point of failure these days.
[05:52] <AcidRain> holstein, i have crongjobs that backup everything every morning at 3am. but only important files rather.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> might be better to ask.. why you dont allready habe backups made. ;0
[05:52] <AcidRain> other than that, nothig is kept on my internal drive
[05:53] <panorain> Dr_Willis are the webup8 ppa's safe containing no malware?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  have you ever seen of heard of malware on linux?
[05:53] <ghostx562> ?
[05:53] <holstein> AcidRain: you will lose *all* files when that hard drive fails, so you might as well plan for that
[05:54] <dmitryp> histo: not a lot, I think the file in the trash from a different installation
[05:54] <AcidRain> holstein, chances of 2 drives going out at same time?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  its a major linux news and info site...  use it if you want.. or not.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> work time.. bbl.
[05:54] <panorain> Dr_willis I am concerned about firefox and the builtin firewall on ubuntu 12.10
[05:54] <rahul01> hi
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  seen it happen with a power surge
[05:54] <holstein> AcidRain: doesnt matter. if you have your data backed up, then you wont lose anything in any upgrade or reinstall
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  the firewall 'builtin' is turned off by default..
[05:55] <AcidRain> Dr_Willis, i have 2 power surges before my cmputer is reached? still happen?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  biggest danger to a linux box is the end user doing somthing stupid.
[05:55] <ghostx562> it can still happen
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  ever see a lighting bolt hit a house.....
[05:55] <panorain> heh
[05:55] <AcidRain> Dr_Willis, no lol. sounds cool though. not for people in it
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> set my carpet on fire...
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> work time.. bbl.
[05:56] <histo> dmitryp: Can you make sure that the path is showing in your file browser and paste a screenshot to imagebin.org
[05:56] <histo> dmitryp: to show the path you hit ctrl+L
[05:56] <ghostx562> see ya willis
[05:56] <panorain> can anyone tell me what version gtk I am using with 12.10 on gnome-classic is it 3.0 and if so can i use a 3.6 gnome theme?
[05:56] <AcidRain> Dr_Willis, ok, i have backedup everything i can think of. so all i have to do is hit this upgrade to 12.04 LTS and im good? or in theory