[01:18] <ColonelKernel> the gears came up but nothing in the xterminal
[01:18] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  supposed to run :/
[01:18] <looksaus> sobersabre: good luck
[01:18] <leagris> Someone know the game crack-attack ?  There are no sound with the ubuntu package. I had a crack-attack-sound package with Mandriva. Are ther any licence issue with the sounds for crack-attack explaining they are not packaged with ubuntu ?
[01:19] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  you sure about your own pasword?
[01:19] <Juul> so, i'm playing with this shiny new breezy install, and i'm wondering; with all this graphical easy configuration stuff, how do i install a new network card and configure it?
[01:20] <aftertaf> Juul:  it should be recognised on boot.
[01:20] <nalioth> Juul: if your network card is supported, it should work o-o-t-b
[01:20] <Juul> what if i haven't re-booted?
[01:20] <p_jnco> wtf!!!
[01:20] <p_jnco> it says wrong password
[01:20] <p_jnco> why
[01:20] <p_jnco> =/
[01:20] <p_jnco> is there a default
[01:20] <Echelon-H> what's the command to change permission?
[01:20] <p_jnco> root pw
[01:20] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  nope.... root is disabled. sudo asks you for your own user password
[01:20] <nalioth> p_jnco: did they tell you about root?
[01:20] <p_jnco> it says enter pw for root
[01:20] <aftertaf> Echelon-H:  chmod
[01:21] <Echelon-H> thanks
[01:21] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  maybe, but it shouldnt....
[01:21] <aftertaf> it should ask you for your user pw
[01:21] <p_jnco> is it because
[01:21] <p_jnco> i used root terminal
[01:21] <p_jnco> il log out
[01:21] <p_jnco> and log back it
[01:21] <p_jnco> try again?
[01:21] <p_jnco> =)
[01:21] <aftertaf> hehe ok
[01:21] <Toffer> quit
[01:21] <Echelon-H> is there any logical reason for a unrar to fail?
[01:21] <aftertaf> corrupt archive?
[01:22] <aftertaf> password protected rar?
[01:22] <Echelon-H> dont think it's corrupted
[01:22] <enyc> hrrrm
[01:22] <Echelon-H> nvm
[01:23] <enyc> eche: wrong rar version?
[01:23] <Juul> suddenly it's taking 5 minutes to start "network settings" why could that be?
[01:23] <enyc> eche: remember.. rar is  not free software ...  unrar is a free implementation of SOME rar versions
[01:23] <Echelon-H> nvm i worked it out
[01:23] <enyc> eche: oooh, how dod you manage taht? ;-)
[01:24] <lorenzod> Hi all.
[01:24] <p_jnco> ok great.
[01:24] <Juul> ok, something entirely different: how do i get ubuntu to auto-detect when a network cable has been plugged in/out and take the interface down/up ?
[01:24] <p_jnco> now gksu
[01:24] <p_jnco> is looking for my root pw
[01:24] <p_jnco> still
[01:24] <p_jnco> its because i tried to install it
[01:24] <p_jnco> from root terminal
[01:24] <p_jnco> thats why
[01:24] <p_jnco> wouldnt u say
[01:25] <lorenzod> Has anybody else noticed anything funny when using rhythmbox with auto-rate?
[01:25] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  use your own password.
[01:25] <Echelon-H> enyc, didn't finish download the thingy *dumb dumb*
[01:25] <enyc> eche: lol ok
[01:25] <apokryphos> p_jnco: for the record, it's gksudo 8)
[01:25] <p_jnco> forget it.
[01:25] <p_jnco> oh
[01:25] <aftertaf> apokryphos:  my bad... :/
[01:25] <p_jnco> hehe
[01:25] <p_jnco> well
[01:25] <p_jnco> gksu is abreviated
[01:25] <p_jnco> ok trying sudo apt-get install synaptic from my terminal
[01:25] <p_jnco> not the root terminal
[01:26] <p_jnco> hopefully that will fix it
[01:26] <p_jnco> hopefully
[01:26] <apokryphos> !enter
[01:26] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:26] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  already installed... you need to run it
[01:26] <p_jnco> i try
[01:26] <p_jnco> it asks for pw to root
[01:26] <apokryphos> p_jnco: what was the problem?
[01:26] <aftertaf> gksudo synaptic (put in user passwd)
[01:26] <p_jnco> gksu synaptics
[01:26] <p_jnco> is asking for my root pw
[01:26] <p_jnco> when i try to run it
[01:26] <lorenzod> Playing a song now *decreases* its rating in rhythmbox.
[01:27] <p_jnco> should i be using gksu or gksudo or it doesnt matter
[01:27] <apokryphos> p_jnco: gksu is a *whole nother program*, not good to abbreviate to that.
[01:27] <p_jnco> wows
[01:27] <p_jnco> so is that why
[01:27] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  gksudo synaptic (put in user passwd).... this will run synaptic package manager
[01:27] <p_jnco> oh
[01:27] <p_jnco> so its sudo
[01:27] <nalioth> apokryphos the master button pusher
[01:27] <p_jnco> not su
[01:27] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  this is how we learn things. ;)
[01:28] <ckidd> hi
[01:28] <p_jnco> i guess so huh after
[01:28] <apokryphos> p_jnco: don't use the <Enter> key as punctuation!
[01:28] <jpfarias> hi!
[01:28] <jpfarias> is there any splash image for grub about ubuntu available?
[01:28] <apokryphos> jpfarias: if you're on breezy, yes
[01:28] <jpfarias> apokryphos, how to install it?
[01:29] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  ok, if synaptic is running, we can change your sources.... to get you on to hoary.
[01:29] <jpfarias> I'm on breezy
[01:29] <p_jnco> ok
[01:29] <p_jnco> it worked
[01:29] <p_jnco> now what =)
[01:29] <apokryphos> jpfarias: it's already installed, to set it... sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[01:29] <atha> p_jnco: now try not to press enter between every word
[01:29] <p_jnco> sorry habbit
[01:30] <sjj> Anyone here running ubuntu on a laptop? I'm running it on a Dell Inspiron 8600 and am having trouble tuning the power setttings to an acceptable level.
[01:30] <p_jnco> after?
[01:30] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  ok... im reinstalling synaptic to guide you ;)
[01:30] <ckidd> can anybody tell me how to get a linksys wireless notebook adapter to work with ubuntu?
[01:30] <jpfarias> apokryphos, Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[01:30] <apokryphos> aftertaf: if you're giving methods for installation, it's good to point to the wiki
[01:30] <sjj> The default settings don't appear to apply any power saving techniques, and if I leave the laptop on unattended for a while (or even while using it) it gets almost unacceptably hot
[01:31] <aftertaf> apokryphos:  yep, but he's on warty with xfree86
[01:31] <p_jnco> thanks after
[01:31] <apokryphos> jpfarias: you're on breezy? Did you have ubuntu-desktop installed before you dist-upgraded?
[01:31] <p_jnco> whats wiki
[01:31] <jpfarias> need to install any package to get the splash?
[01:31] <p_jnco> the other package upgrader?
[01:31] <jpfarias> apokryphos, yes
[01:31] <aftertaf> nope, a guide to using ubuntu....
[01:31] <p_jnco> i think i used this synaptic with redhat
[01:31] <p_jnco> oh
[01:31] <apokryphos> jpfarias: dpkg -l|grep usplash ...gives?
[01:31] <sjj> I'm having a little success playing around with hdparm settings and the like, but I was hoping there'd be some ubuntu way of doing it
[01:31] <[A] ndy80> O_o I'm trying to do a dist-upgrage on my ubuntu breezy and it tell me: the following packages will be removed: 65 packages of xserver-xorg* !!! how is it possible?
[01:32] <jpfarias> ii  usplash                               0.1-10    Userspace bootsplash utility
[01:32] <aftertaf> [A] ndy80:  reupdate and itll go away
[01:32] <p_jnco> maybe it has to remove them
[01:32] <[A] ndy80> aftertaf: apt-get update?
[01:32] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  ok... go to settings menu > repositories
[01:32] <aftertaf> [A] ndy80: yep :)
[01:32] <apokryphos> jpfarias: hm, it's all there, not sure why it's going wrong..
[01:32] <[A] ndy80> aftertaf: thanks :)
[01:33] <p_jnco> ok
[01:33] <p_jnco> one sec
[01:33] <apokryphos> jpfarias: by the way, you *do* mean a splashy, right? Not graphics or whatever for the GRUB boot selector?
[01:33] <jpfarias> I think this usplash is the graphical boot, don't it?
[01:33] <aftertaf> jpfarias:  splash for bootup sequence, or for grub ?
[01:33] <jpfarias> for grub
[01:33] <p_jnco> ok
[01:33] <p_jnco> im there
[01:33] <apokryphos> jpfarias: oh ok, no there isn't one
[01:33] <aftertaf> grub-themes works for me jpfarias
[01:33] <jpfarias> hmm
[01:33] <apokryphos> jpfarias: apparently easy to do (I did it in the past)
[01:34] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  ok...... see those lines archive.ubuntu.com.... with warty written?  change every instance of warty to hoary
[01:34] <p_jnco> ok.
[01:34] <apokryphos> aftertaf: easy way is to recommend sed :)
[01:34] <jpfarias> found grub-splashimages
[01:35] <p_jnco> question
[01:35] <p_jnco> even the ones that arnt checked?
[01:35] <p_jnco> also
[01:35] <aftertaf> apokryphos:  true.... but ive never used it yet myself ;)
[01:35] <p_jnco> just archive.
[01:35] <apokryphos> aftertaf: check your ubotu PM
[01:35] <p_jnco> theres 2 instances
[01:35] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  all that start with deb http:// yes...
[01:35] <p_jnco> well 4 but 2 are checked
[01:35] <aftertaf> heheheh apo :)
[01:36] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  get it to resemble what ubotu will send you
[01:36] <aftertaf> !tell p_jnco about repositories
[01:37] <boxerboy29> i have java on ubuntu and that lets me use it for firefox no how do i get java for opera?
[01:37] <aftertaf> apokryphos:  yeah, i'm complicating things for myself here, i appreciate that ;)
[01:37] <twoSharp> where can i find a list of all packages in base-system, but only base-system like in server installation?
[01:37] <p_jnco> what about http://security.ubuntu
[01:37] <apokryphos> =)
[01:37] <p_jnco> those too?
[01:37] <aftertaf> looool
[01:37] <sobersabre> guys, shall I run apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade or just the latter ?
[01:37] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  yep.
[01:37] <p_jnco> so change to hoary-security
[01:37] <sobersabre> (upgrading hoary to breezy )
[01:37] <WebLOCH> update first
[01:38] <apokryphos> sobersabre: you haven't mentioned what you're trying to do :)
[01:38] <p_jnco> from warty-security
[01:38] <mypapit> sobersabre, usually just do dist-upgrade
[01:38] <p_jnco> then click ok?
[01:38] <sobersabre> ok
[01:38] <sobersabre> thanks
[01:38] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  was the only one active the cdrom?    and YES for warty-security, change too ;)
[01:38] <sobersabre> I am still in the middle of update... so I have some time to think
[01:38] <p_jnco> no
[01:38] <sobersabre> ...
[01:38] <p_jnco> the archive was active
[01:38] <aftertaf> then click ok. and click the update button
[01:38] <p_jnco> as were security
[01:39] <p_jnco> thanks
[01:39] <aftertaf> ok for cdrom.. good ;)
[01:39] <bimberi> twoSharp: you can look at the direct dependencies of the "ubuntu-base" package
[01:39] <sobersabre> which gnome version is in breezy ?
[01:39] <sobersabre> 2.12 ?
[01:39] <apokryphos> yes
[01:39] <sobersabre> kool...
[01:39] <sobersabre> i've been working lately with kde
[01:40] <apokryphos> sobersabre: so why move to the dark side? ;-)
[01:40] <sobersabre> apokryphos, I am like water.
[01:40] <aftertaf> loool apokryphos  ;)
[01:40] <p_jnco> default or smart upgrade?
[01:40] <p_jnco> im hitting mark all upgrades
[01:40] <p_jnco> is that whjat u meant
[01:40] <sobersabre> apokryphos, and for me, gnome is less dark side...
[01:40] <aftertaf> yep..... smart upgrade
[01:40] <sobersabre> inspite i am on kde ;-)
[01:41] <twoSharp> bimberi: =)
[01:41] <apokryphos> sobersabre: the force will no longer be wth you, young Skywalker.
[01:41] <aftertaf> itll update a lot of stuff... then you'l need to reboot.
[01:41] <sobersabre> apokryphos, I am like water.
[01:41] <apokryphos> sobersabre: wow, that's almost poetic :P
[01:41] <sobersabre> it is poetic in some languages.
[01:42] <aftertaf> !use_the_force
[01:42] <ubotu> aftertaf: I give up, what is it?
[01:42] <sobersabre> OK, guys, I am goin out of X during the upgrade.
[01:42] <sobersabre> thanks for the help.,
[01:42] <p_jnco> sigh
[01:43] <p_jnco> i got an eror about bsdutils not being able to upgrade
[01:43] <p_jnco> then it all went to shit
[01:43] <boxerboy29> who do i have to screw to get xcommon to update
[01:43] <aftertaf> ok.... in gnome, open up this file:  /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to me as a private message
[01:44] <p_jnco> k
[01:44] <p_jnco> its working now
[01:44] <aftertaf> hehe cool
[01:44] <aftertaf> how many meg to download?
[01:45] <p_jnco> a lot
[01:45] <twoSharp> bimberi, Now I've found it in ubuntu-minimal :) But how can I remove some of the packages, and fix it so it installs anyway, just without the packages I, don't want?
[01:45] <punkrockmcduck> hi everybody!
[01:45] <WebLOCH> anyone around fancy addressing a sound problem?
[01:45] <p_jnco> 799 files
[01:45] <p_jnco> 15 min worth
[01:45] <punkrockmcduck> do I need to worry about compatability issues with wireless optical mice?
[01:45] <p_jnco> highspeed
[01:45] <locomorto> Does anyone know if ubuntu is going to fix the usb flash drive problem anytime soon?
[01:45] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  ok... when done, reboot ;)    long live 700 kbps
[01:45] <elad`> How do I make the Num Lock led on by default?
[01:46] <p_jnco> longlive 2400bps
[01:46] <rdfm> hmmmm pppoeconf doesn't always do the right thing..... http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16127
[01:46] <twoSharp> bimberi, any ideas?
[01:46] <WebLOCH> anyone around want to give me links to any non-standard advice on audio deviceS?
[01:47] <bimberi> twoSharp: what's the issue - lack of HDD capacity?
[01:47] <p_jnco> SYNAPTIC OWNZ U
[01:47] <p_jnco> SYNAPTIC OWNZ U
[01:47] <p_jnco> lol
[01:47] <WebLOCH> p_jnco,  how old are you ?
[01:47] <p_jnco> 22
[01:47] <p_jnco> lol
[01:48] <WebLOCH> haha
[01:48] <WebLOCH> harsh
[01:48] <p_jnco> SYNATPIC BEATS WINDOWS UPDATE HANDS DOWN
[01:48] <punkrockmcduck> wireless usb mice, anybody know of compatability issues, or do they just work like regular usb mice?
[01:48] <aftertaf> and you're happy it's working..... this is just the start of a long relationship
[01:48] <WebLOCH> you're a year older than me :P
[01:48] <p_jnco> they arnt on the same scene
[01:48] <p_jnco> and/or scale
[01:48] <WebLOCH> synaptic is for girls!
[01:48] <apokryphos> p_jnco: alright, no shouting please
[01:48] <p_jnco> klolol
[01:48] <WebLOCH> apt-get is how the men do it
[01:48] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  but you can get told off for shouting & stuff..... ;)
[01:48] <ol> while trying to boot, last line before my install freezes is hw_random: RNG not detected... bad?
[01:48] <p_jnco> synaptic is for girls
[01:48] <p_jnco> lol
[01:49] <aftertaf> WebLOCH:  true, but can't run when you've never walked in linux ;)
[01:49] <twoSharp> bimberi, I really like ubuntu and its wy of debian.. I have an assignment to build a linux distro thats secure and very fast.  So I want to try making a stripped ubuntu, maybe using xfce or fluxbox instead of gnome... is this possible?
[01:49] <WebLOCH> are you a girl?
[01:49] <p_jnco> someone will rip me apart
[01:49] <nalioth> gentlebeings, comparisons can be made in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:49] <punkrockmcduck> synaptic is good for telling me when I need to update, but then I just run apt to do it.
[01:49] <p_jnco> im such a noob lol
[01:49] <WebLOCH> aftertaf, I know, was just joking really
[01:49] <p_jnco> no
[01:49] <nalioth> twoSharp: yes it's possible
[01:49] <p_jnco> sorry nerds dont get girls...nerd.
[01:49] <irvin> i'm on breezy but there was an error during my update/upgrade
[01:49] <irvin> x-common won't install
[01:49] <irvin> dpkg error code 1
[01:49] <twoSharp> naioth: any hints so i can make it fourther?
[01:49] <WebLOCH> thats a lie, thats a lie!
[01:49] <punkrockmcduck> i had the same problem earlier.
[01:50] <aftertaf> irvin:  it happens, try apt-get update again.
[01:50] <nalioth> gentlebeings: a/s/l talk in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:50] <bimberi> twoSharp: yes, start with a "server install" and build from there
[01:50] <WebLOCH> I had a girl.
[01:50] <p_jnco> twosharp we charge a consulting fee here
[01:50] <WebLOCH> I swear it!
[01:50] <p_jnco> pm me and i will tell u where to send
[01:50] <p_jnco> JK!
[01:50] <aftertaf> WebLOCH:   p_jnco you can banter all you want in offtopic
[01:50] <ferdi> Hi everybody
[01:50] <WebLOCH> aftertaf, yeah I know, its just nice to have some general chat in the main room, lightens the mood, ill shutup now
[01:50] <SanderD> Hi. I've got an AMD64 processor. Can I run all 32-bit applications (including games) in a 32-bit chroot, or should I just use the i386 kernel instead of the AMD64 version?
[01:51] <irvin> aftertaf, same error
[01:51] <lorenzod> OK, trying again: rhythmbox-0.9.0-0ubuntu5
[01:51] <aftertaf> WebLOCH:  dont bother me... but ppls probs can get drowned out and it can end up messy..... ;)
[01:51] <nalioth> SanderD: for maximum usage, use a x86 kernel
[01:51] <WebLOCH> aftertaf, yeah its true :(
[01:51] <lorenzod> And the previous number of versions..
[01:51] <twoSharp> bimberi, nalioth: but when I have removed and added all packages that i want, how can i then make a install cd so my class can get a copy?
[01:51] <lorenzod> It seems auto-rate is a bit upside-down..
[01:51] <aftertaf> irvin:  looking
[01:52] <p_jnco> do people make fun of ubuntu and call it linux for noobs.. or is that koppix?
[01:52] <bimberi> twoSharp: ah, not sure about that sorry
[01:52] <nalioth> twoSharp: now that's a different kettle of fish. you want to know how to remaster the liveCd, right?
[01:52] <lorenzod> Anybody else notice that songs decrease in rating them more you play them?
[01:52] <apokryphos> p_jnco: never heard someome say knoppix is linux for noobs
[01:52] <nalioth> p_jnco: thats us, all new users
[01:52] <WebLOCH> isn't koppix what you do with boobs?
[01:52] <p_jnco> what about ubuntu
[01:52] <WebLOCH> or is that coppin
[01:53] <p_jnco> gentoo is the ticket.
[01:53] <p_jnco> emerge..
[01:53] <aftertaf> windows is linux for n00bs..... ubuntu is great for those who want to get to know linux properly
[01:53] <p_jnco> u cant mess with emerge
[01:53] <p_jnco> well its great stuff
[01:53] <p_jnco> il tell ya
[01:53] <SanderD> nalioth: There won't be a big difference in speed if I use an x86 kernel instead of AMD64?
[01:53] <WebLOCH> I think ubuntu's biggest problem, is that its the "nice, moral" way of doing things
[01:53] <p_jnco> and its giving me good access to the gui but at the same time probing me to use the command line
[01:53] <p_jnco> its too nice
[01:53] <ctp6360> SanderD, it will be 0.04 seconds slower on every operation
[01:53] <WebLOCH> which puts it at natural disadvantage
[01:53] <p_jnco> its like the aol of linux
[01:53] <adl> ubuntu is also great for more professional linux users who want a good reliable system that they just can use they way they want to ...
[01:54] <apokryphos> p_jnco: please do NOT press <Enter> every few seconds; it floods the channel and is annoying :)
[01:54] <p_jnco> damn
[01:54] <p_jnco> damn i keep diong that i apologize its force of habbit
[01:54] <SanderD> ctp6360: Hm, I don't think I'll notice that. Could I upgrade from x86 to amd64 when that's 'better supported'?
[01:54] <p_jnco> im gonna explore the wonderful world of the sudo command
[01:55] <twoSharp> nalioth: maybe, im not sure.. What I want is to make a minimal, secure and very fast distro.. using fxce or fluxbox instead of gnome.. and then I need to make a dummy-package like ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-desktop, etc. just an empty packgae with the dependencies..
[01:55] <nalioth> twoSharp: to install or run live?
[01:55] <bimberi> twoSharp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[01:55] <twoSharp> nalioth, to install
[01:55] <WebLOCH> twoSharp,  there is no point in doing that unless you use old outdated hardware
[01:55] <twoSharp> and maybe live later..
[01:55] <ctp6360> SanderD, I don't think so mate...I have an AMD64 too and I have used the amd64 version before....in short, the hassles of trying to get 32bit stuff to run on 64bit are not worth the MINIMAL speed increase it provides
[01:55] <bimberi> twoSharp: ... except that's for LiveCD :|
[01:56] <nalioth> twoSharp: you may wish to ask your question in a few hours
[01:56] <WebLOCH> twoSharp,  all of the performance you save isn't worth jack if your hardware doesnt work :P
[01:56] <jpfarias> hey guys, x-common is buggy on today update
[01:56] <bob2> WebLOCH: disadvantage compared to what?
[01:56] <ctp6360> SanderD, remember, 64bit stuff is only good for cpu-intensive operations like encoding videos and stuff, unless you do that constantly i would recommend the 386 version
[01:56] <bob2> jpfarias: yes, don't install it
[01:56] <p_jnco> ah okay. so since root is logged out. we use sudo it initialize root commands/functions from our own login
[01:56] <bob2> jpfarias: also, /topic
[01:56] <twoSharp> nalioth, what then?
[01:56] <irvin> jpfarias, yes
[01:56] <irvin> broke my mine too
[01:56] <WebLOCH> bob2, MS have clearly done the opposite, they're big and mean, as a result they dominate market, now we cant get decent drivers for new hardware in linux
[01:56] <apokryphos> p_jnco: check wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for more information
[01:56] <aftertaf> p_jnco:  sort of yeah
[01:56] <aftertaf> !sudo
[01:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:56] <nalioth> twoSharp: hopefully some developers/otherknowledgablepeople/spaceAliens will be here and can assist you further
[01:56] <twoSharp> WebLOCH, Its an school assignment, about knowing linuxand its sooftwaqre..
[01:57] <bob2> WebLOCH: which new hardware has no linux drivers?
[01:57] <WebLOCH> twoSharp,  thats cool
[01:57] <WebLOCH> bob2, a Lot of Asus motherboards as they dont support it
[01:57] <WebLOCH> bob2,  a whole bunch of my hardware
[01:57] <SanderD> ctp6360: Okay, thanks. I think you're right, I don't like this chroot thing --- still not everything works properly. I'll install the x86 version of Breezy when it's released.
[01:57] <bob2> WebLOCH: evidence?
[01:57] <twoSharp> nalioth, ok :) but do you have any ideas of how to make a dummy-package with dependencies I choose?
[01:57] <bob2> twoSharp: "equivs"
[01:58] <aftertaf> bob2:  true, ive heard a couple of ppl with laptops asus mboards and onboard stuff not supported.
[01:58] <twoSharp> bob2 :)
[01:58] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: all Asus I've seen support Linux fine and dandy; not that I've tried that many (my brother runs, and I did for a bit)
[01:58] <nalioth> twoSharp: ask bob2 (he's one of the aforementioned spaceAliens)
[01:58] <ctp6360> SanderD, I think that's the most sensible way to do it, I don't like the chroot idea either and you don't want to miss out on certain apps just for a tiny inperceptable speed difference
[01:58] <twoSharp> hehe
[01:58] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, what about the P5WD2 Premium?
[01:58] <codenut> Anyone using ubuntu to work with thier cellphones?
[01:58] <p_jnco> this is fun
[01:58] <bob2> I'd be very surprised if linux failed to work on any desktops
[01:58] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, Ubuntu is running now, but it doesnt recognise the hardware
[01:58] <WebLOCH> bob2,  I did not say it didnt work
[01:58] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: not one I've tried, unfortunately
[01:59] <WebLOCH> bob2, but if you dont have specific drivers ubuntu can hardly be making the best use of the hardware
[01:59] <bob2> WebLOCH: so, your sound not working != linux not supporting it
[01:59] <WebLOCH> No not at all
[01:59] <bob2> WebLOCH: that's really not how things work outside windows
[01:59] <WebLOCH> bob2, I wasnt talking about that at all
[01:59] <bob2> "specific drivers" is not even really defined
[01:59] <WebLOCH> bob2, I know my soundcard is installed
[01:59] <bob2> lots of drivers have work arounds for shitty bugs
[02:00] <bob2> e.g. the 8139too driver is one big workaround for the fact realtek can't design ethernet controllers
[02:00] <WebLOCH> bob2, which is fair enough
[02:00] <WebLOCH> bob2, far too much is "work arounds" due to poor design
[02:00] <WebLOCH> ubuntu is differnt
[02:00] <Linux_Galore> know the funny thing about he 8139 driver, it works better in Linux than using the native driver in Windows
[02:00] <WebLOCH> linux overall is differnt, its the fact that it is well designed in a poorly implemented world that causes the problem
[02:01] <Linux_Galore> Ive come to the conclusion people can say "Linux doesn't do this or that", but Im still going to be using Linux
[02:01] <WebLOCH> Well I am
[02:02] <WebLOCH> Despite what I said
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> I can live with Linux, bit not with windows
[02:02] <sobersabre> i am upgrading hoary to breezy. it is soooo SLOOOOWWW!
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> but*
[02:02] <sobersabre> archive.ubuntu.com
[02:02] <WebLOCH> sobersabre, wait 20 days
[02:02] <crtr> how to delete a directory ? rm -i PATH ?
[02:02] <Linux_Galore> sobersabre: depends on your connection and what mirror you use
[02:03] <Linux_Galore> ctp6360: rmdir
[02:03] <fredforfaen> how do i start OO beta....i have both 113 and beta installed....anyone?
[02:03] <WebLOCH> crtr, sudo rm -rd path
[02:03] <sobersabre> which mirror is there in europe/middle east ?
[02:03] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore,  rmdir is only for empty directories
[02:03] <helpme> hiya guys:)
[02:03] <aftertaf> fredforfaen:  it shold have appeared in your menu... if on gnome restart X
[02:04] <crtr> 10x
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> lol
[02:04] <fredforfaen> aftertaf ok...but do you know what the binary is called?
[02:04] <sobersabre> oh. it got better ( 80k ) but still below ny cap.
[02:04] <toxicle> hi guys ... is there an ncurses way of configuring your network ?
[02:04] <boxerboy29> whats the chances that someone tried to do updates on breezy this morning and couldnt upgrade the xcommon?
[02:04] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, Im pretty sure that just doesnt tell you if it fails, it doesnt actually remove the dir tho?
[02:04] <sobersabre> is gcc 4 the default gcc under breezy ?
[02:04] <DuDe> hello
[02:04] <aftertaf> fredforfaen:  nope.....
[02:04] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: it removes it even if its full
[02:04] <fredforfaen> damn
[02:04] <WebLOCH> sobersabre, if you install it yeah
[02:04] <bob2> toxicle: vim /etc/network/interfaces
[02:04] <bob2> sobersabre: yes
[02:04] <thesaltydog> how can I have smaller fonts in console output, having usplash at boot?
[02:04] <fredforfaen> ok ill restart x then..brb
[02:04] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore,  ahh
[02:04] <aftertaf> fredforfaen:  hang on...
[02:04] <alisher>
[02:05] <bob2> sobersabre: basically everything aside from the kernel is compiled with it
[02:05] <bob2> boxerboy29: /topic
[02:05] <bob2> seriously, folks
[02:05] <alisher> same problem w xcommon
[02:05] <toxicle> bob2: is there a man for interfaces file ?
[02:05] <elad`> I don't want Ubuntu to update my clock whenever I start the computer (actually, at all). How do I change that?
[02:05] <bob2> DO NOT USE BREEZY IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO USE APT
[02:05] <atha> sobersabre: http://il.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[02:05] <aftertaf> ooffice2 -base
[02:05] <boxerboy29> bob2: are you saying thats off topic?
[02:05] <bob2> elad`: sudo rm /etc/rcS.d/S*ntp*
[02:05] <atha> according to your host should be quite close
[02:05] <bob2> boxerboy29: I'm saying it's a known issue, which is in the topic
[02:05] <toxicle> !backports
[02:05] <aftertaf> fredforfaen:  ooffice2 -base
[02:05] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:05] <sobersabre> atha i have bad experience with il. mirrors, like outdated or missing packages...
[02:05] <boxerboy29> oh ok ty
[02:05] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: I should hack the code for rmdir and change that verbose flag to -i
[02:06] <helpme> can i add whatever repos i want...like non-free ones?
[02:06] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, I think ill probably just use rm anyway
[02:06] <fredforfaen> aftertaf thanx
[02:06] <bob2> sobersabre: il.archive.ubuntu.com points at archive.ubuntu.com
[02:06] <bob2> helpme: you can do whatever you want, but if you use non-ubuntu repositories, you're on your own when you break it
[02:06] <toxicle> bob2: what is the correct line to add if i wanna set static ip for my box?
[02:07] <boxerboy29> bob2 ty
[02:07] <aftertaf> toxicle:  eth0 inet static
[02:07] <fredforfaen> aftertaf dont have that binary
[02:07] <fredforfaen> :(
[02:07] <DuDe> I can't get my scroll on my mouse to work
[02:07] <Linux_Galore> sobersabre: Ubuntu uses pretty up_to_date packages and Debian mirrors have a habbit of erring on the safe side with older packages
[02:07] <toxicle> aftertaf: don't seem to work ... i had to use dhcp to really get on the net
[02:07] <twoSharp> what was the shell command for showing every packages installed on system atm?
[02:07] <aftertaf> toxicle:  iface eth0 inet static... the you set the config yourself.
[02:07] <toxicle> although the ip is correct but domains just won't resolve
[02:08] <toxicle> resolve.conf is correct
[02:08] <aftertaf> fredforfaen:  hmmm. ooffice2 ??
[02:08] <helpme> bob2: but in debian.theres hardly any fear of breaking the system...then why in ubuntu when its debian-based?
[02:08] <bob2> helpme: wtf
[02:08] <thesaltydog> how can I have smaller fonts in console output, having usplash at boot?
[02:08] <helpme> debian is tougher than ubuntu?
[02:08] <bob2> helpme: in debian you're just as screwed if you use shitty apt sources
[02:08] <bob2> helpme: no, you're just wrong
[02:08] <apokryphos> toxicle: under #The primary network interface etc... put iface ethX (usually eth0) inet static; next line put address 10.0.0.XX, next line netmask, next line gateway, then next line "auto eth0)
[02:08] <Linux_Galore> helpme: Debian based doesnt mean "it is debian"
[02:08] <fredforfaen> aftertaf dont have it , i just did a locate ooffice2 and nada!
[02:08] <aftertaf> helpme:  in debian you can shaft the whole thing in 2 seconds with deb http//crap.com
[02:08] <sobersabre> toxicle there are networks that don't allow auxilary IPs to be taken.
[02:09] <toxicle> apokryphos: thanks
[02:09] <helpme> bob2: u shouldnt be abusive atleast
[02:09] <aftertaf> fredforfaen:  no idea thezn.
[02:09] <bob2> helpme: I'm not being abusive, I'm politely correcting you
[02:09] <toxicle> sobersabre: it's my own router
[02:09] <fredforfaen> aftertaf damn
[02:09] <thesaltydog> where can I read the full kernel options available for 2.6.12-9?
[02:09] <sobersabre> toxicle so you've got a typo in interfaces file.
[02:09] <bob2> thesaltydog: /boot/
[02:09] <aftertaf> toxicle:  man interfaces......
[02:10] <thesaltydog> bob2, tnx
[02:10] <DuDe> God damnit, again, I can't get anything to work that needs a password
[02:10] <WebLOCH> helpme, he's had a lot of hassle and a lot of caffeine, i havent seen him shutup since i've been here.  Although I think he gave up on me hours ago
[02:10] <aftertaf> thesaltydog:  in your config file in /boot/
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> one thing Ive learnt in the 8 years Ive used LInux......use the "official" package server, if its not thete download the taball and compile it
[02:10] <DuDe> But I have to get to work, so I will be back in about 7-8 hours
[02:10] <juerry> hi there, someone works with audio editing?
[02:10] <Linux_Galore> there*
[02:10] <elad`> bob2, I moved it to ~/, and saw it move there (actually, seemed like it was a shortcut), then it disappeared!
[02:10] <bob2> DuDe: did you touch your sudo or password configuration?
[02:10] <toxicle> thanks :)
[02:10] <bob2> elad`: ok...
[02:10] <bob2> elad`: there's no reason to move it
[02:10] <thesaltydog> aftertaf, bob2, no, sorry.. I was speaking about grub command line options, such as console=tty0, etc..
[02:11] <elad`> bob2, I didn't want to delete it.
[02:11] <helpme> will ubuntu always stick to this sudo system?
[02:11] <bob2> thesaltydog: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:11] <bob2> elad`: why? it's a symlink.
[02:11] <apokryphos> helpme: unless something better comes along. Currently it's easily the superior model
[02:11] <twoSharp> what is the command for showing every application thats installed on system?
[02:11] <elad`> A what?
[02:11] <bob2> helpme: yes, but competent admins use sudo on Debian and other systems, anyway
[02:11] <Linux_Galore> helpme: yes untill someone figures out a better method
[02:11] <bob2> elad`: nevermind, but there's no reason to move it instead of deleting it
[02:11] <thesaltydog> bob2, the full available commands list?
[02:11] <aftertaf> thesaltydog:  ohhh ok... dunno ;)
[02:11] <bob2> twoSharp: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[02:12] <Madeye> guys, is there net installer for ubuntu ?
[02:12] <Airk> hi. how to change the path inside the gnome environment (not in gnome-console or xterm)?
[02:12] <aftertaf> helpme:  sudo is good....... stops root damage
[02:12] <bob2> Madeye: yes, but not what you think
[02:12] <DuDe> bob2, this happened last time I installed Ubuntu, and I came in here, and some dude helped me out, but I can't remember who he was
[02:12] <elad`> bob2, it appears in red letters under a black background when I "ls -a" where it now is.
[02:12] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Madeye about install
[02:12] <juerry> ok, let's say in another way... wich program/s can i install to make audio editing?
[02:12] <bob2> thesaltydog: install grub-doc
[02:12] <helpme> apokryphos: i dont think it is better imho...anyways lets not start a flame war..lets just chill:)
[02:12] <thesaltydog> ok
[02:12] <bob2> elad`: yes, because it's a broken link
[02:12] <elad`> bob2, what does that mean?
[02:12] <Linux_Galore> helpme: if you want a windows like distro with no admin security go try Linspire........but if you make an error your up for a fresh install
[02:12] <elad`> ah
[02:12] <bob2> elad`: as I said, there's no reason to keep it
[02:12] <WebLOCH> juerry, check apt-get
[02:12] <bob2> DuDe: how did you break it?
[02:12] <elad`> Testing if it's worked.
[02:12] <twoSharp> bob2: Im pretty sure theres another more easy one.. i just cant remember it...
[02:12] <apokryphos> helpme: it's pretty much objectively better (not a matter of opinion), but hey.
[02:13] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, I remember when Linspire was Lindows
[02:13] <bimberi> juerry: audacity
[02:13] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, I remember when Linspire was called something I cant remember hahaha
[02:13] <helpme> Linux_Galore: hey i didnt mean that......windows can never match linux in security
[02:13] <DuDe> Some guy in here helped me out, he had me do some editing of something
[02:13] <apokryphos> Lindows *cough*
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH:  POS Linux ??
[02:13] <Linux_Galore> heh heh
[02:13] <helpme> i installed quake2 via apt-get..but i get jerky sound..plz help......any fixes?
[02:13] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, yeah it was nasty, and you had to pay to be on the beta testing list
[02:13] <juerry> bimbery: audacity seems too bad, i'm searching something better
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: aah I remember that, really stupid idea
[02:14] <WebLOCH> quake2 is available for free?
[02:14] <juerry> bimbery: in windows i'm using steinberg wave lab and others
[02:14] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, well yeah it did help cripple things for them
[02:14] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: I cant see any serious FOSs developer getting hung up on that one
[02:15] <tommae> hi, anybody know a tool to look for double mp3 files with different names
[02:15] <WebLOCH> FOS?
[02:15] <helpme> any help plz..i get jerky incoherent sound in quake 2 which i installed via apt-get.....
[02:15] <Linux_Galore> Only thing I will give Linspire kudos for is NVU
[02:15] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, yeah Nvu is okay, but its based on the old netscape code
[02:15] <_DuDe_> ok, bye, be back in about 7-8 hours
[02:15] <sQ> hi. I don't not have any partition on my HDD, but can I install ubuntu together with my existing winxp without affecting it? thanks.
[02:15] <twoSharp> Linux_Galore, NVU ain't that great...
[02:15] <bimberi> juerry: fair enough, btw have a look at what happens when you type bim<tab>
[02:16] <helpme> what is nvu?
[02:16] <apokryphos> Linux_Galore: the *only* thing? They have a pretty good package management system - -kept up-to-date and sorted by applications rather than packages
[02:16] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: they paid the mozilla guys for it...........though it was just a cleaned up version of Mozilla Composer
[02:16] <juerry> bimberi, sorry
[02:16] <apokryphos> Linux_Galore: I also hear they have jack, but it's not like I'm the authority on sound engines for Linux :)
[02:16] <bimberi> juerry: np :)
[02:16] <fredforfaen> Does anybody have any idea how i can start oo beta in hoary , i have 113 and beta installed , but i cant seem to find the binary for beta...help pls.....
[02:16] <juerry> bimberi, do you now some other solutions?
[02:17] <toxicle> !backports
[02:17] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:17] <Linux_Galore> Fred its called ooffice1.9
[02:17] <helpme> anyway to turn ntfs to fat32...plz?
[02:17] <bimberi> juerry: no, just aware of audacity, others (or google) may know better :)
[02:17] <juerry> bimberi, many professionists use linux for audio editing, but i'm wondering how
[02:17] <apokryphos> helpme: gparted
[02:17] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: type oo[TAB]
[02:17] <helpme> apokryphos: it really changes ntfs to fat32!
[02:18] <bimberi> juerry: there might be commercial packages available.  Ubuntu is about Free software tho
[02:18] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, yeah its interesting to see the natural development, I found a binary-compatible OCX that wrapped the mozilla browser so you could substitute the IE one used in apps.  So you could patch Outlook Express to use the mozilla control.
[02:18] <sQ> hi. I don't not have any partition on my HDD, but can I install ubuntu together with my existing winxp without affecting it? thanks.
[02:18] <juerry> bimberi, uhm... i hope google will help me, but it is so stupid :p
[02:18] <apokryphos> helpme: it has the option to format an NTFS partition to a fat32 one, yes, I'm pretty sure.
[02:18] <helpme> apokryphos: can qtparted do that? i have qtparted installed.......
[02:18] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore done that and i just get the 00 1.1.3 binarys
[02:18] <apokryphos> helpme: yes
[02:18] <bimberi> juerry: lol
[02:18] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: so you just downloaded the binary tarball ??
[02:18] <sQ> anyone can help?
[02:18] <fredforfaen> no i installed the debs
[02:19] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore <---
[02:19] <juerry> bimberi, ok, maybe i can ask a friend of mine about this
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: querry the package and see were it install oooffice1.9
[02:19] <bimberi> sQ: the installer can attempt to resize the windows partition to make room for ubuntu - back up first though
[02:19] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore how so i so that ?
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: then just ling  oooffice1.9 to /usr/bin
[02:19] <fredforfaen> so/do
[02:19] <Linux_Galore> link*
[02:20] <sQ> bimberi: okay. thanks. so the installation most likely will not affect my other files?
[02:20] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore but i cant find oooffice1.9 anywhere?
[02:20] <fredforfaen> i just did a updatedb and locate oooffice1.9
[02:20] <fredforfaen> nada :(
[02:20] <WebLOCH> fredforfaen, ooffice2 is actually 1.9.something
[02:20] <WebLOCH> fredforfaen, at least a few days ago it was
[02:21] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: then I suspect its not installed and the install failed
[02:21] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: try locate soffice
[02:21] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore dpkg gave me all ok ....
[02:21] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore,  is that a challenge or a request?
[02:21] <bimberi> sQ: it shouldn't but don't assume - there's some more info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[02:22] <Linux_Galore> request
[02:22] <toxicle> hi
[02:22] <sQ> bimberi: thanks alot..
[02:22] <helpme> windows guys dont know abt such great tools like qtparted...they think partition magic is all that there is lol
[02:22] <toxicle> is it ok if i add a few backports repos ?
[02:22] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, http://globalspecials.sun.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPage&Locale=en_GB&id=ProductDetailsPage&SiteID=sunstor&productID=36270000&Env=BASE
[02:22] <bimberi> sQ: yw :)
[02:22] <fredforfaen> :(
[02:23] <WebLOCH> toxicle, you can add them, just be weary
[02:23] <fredforfaen> i havent got soffice there either :(
[02:23] <jkrogh> Any font experts around..
[02:23] <user6> mae
[02:23] <jkrogh> I'm running ltsp and after af "hard" reboot..  all fonts look ugly.
[02:23] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: no I was talking to fredforfaen.......locate soffice........sometimes its  oooffice1.9 sometimes soffice
[02:23] <WebLOCH> :O SOFFICE IS NO LONGER FREE!
[02:24] <WebLOCH> oh right
[02:24] <fredforfaen> i found it !!!! yeeehaaaaa
[02:24] <toxicle> WebLOCH: is ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net safe?
[02:24] <fredforfaen> thanx gyes
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: did you run locatedb with sudo
[02:24] <WebLOCH> toxicle, not sure to be honest, if you are using breezy, then I would say no
[02:24] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore yeah , and you where right it isnt linked
[02:24] <fredforfaen> linked to /usr/bin
[02:24] <fredforfaen> i mean
[02:25] <elad`> I want to stop <IP_ADDRESS> from being added to my hostname list (or maybe I shouldn't?) and only have <IP_ADDRESS> in there. Help?
[02:25] <elad`> bob2, the clock thing worked, thanks.
[02:25] <toxicle> WebLOCH: i'm on hoary
[02:25] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: the openoffice package doesnt link in just in case you have a version already installed
[02:25] <thesaltydog> if I use usplash I have to remove vga=791 from menu.lst How can I keep my small fonts in a console session, without getting rid of usplash?
[02:25] <nalioth> elad`: why do you want that?
[02:25] <WebLOCH> toxicle, yeah that should be okay but pay attention to what you download carefully
[02:26] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: O had to link oooffice1.9 in
[02:26] <Linux_Galore> I*
[02:26] <fredforfaen> i c
[02:26] <fredforfaen> just did it
[02:26] <fredforfaen> and it works :))
[02:26] <elad`> nalioth, I think that's how it should be. Am I wrong? It takes me a while to connect to IRC, and it's always hanging up on the "host" thingie.
[02:26] <elad`> And before I added "<IP_ADDRESS>" to there, sometimes it wouldn't connect at all.
[02:26] <toxicle> WebLOCH: what do i look for?
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: just create a desktop icon and your done
[02:27] <WebLOCH> elad`, unless you use IDENT you will hang for awhile
[02:27] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore yeah im gonna , pretty lean , thanx alot!
[02:27] <elad`> How do I use IDENT?
[02:27] <nalioth> elad`: i dont think that's your problem
[02:27] <WebLOCH> toxicle, couldn't tell you, i use the backports, but then again I dont care if it breaks
[02:27] <WebLOCH> elad`, you would need to install an IDENTd
[02:27] <indypende> my webcam stop and dmesg give me this output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2458, no one know why?
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: edit the settings........the GUI has three different themes
[02:28] <WebLOCH> elad`, it wouldnt be worth the effort, just wait the couple of seconds
[02:28] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore cool
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> fredforfaen: I use the "industrial" theme
[02:28] <toxicle> WebLOCH: hahah great then :)
[02:28] <boxerboy29> indypende: if im not mistaken thats the site we use to paste things in
[02:29] <kataklysm> is there anyway to add desktop icons in xfce4?
[02:29] <fredforfaen> Linux_Galore :)
[02:29] <elad`> How do I installed identd?
[02:29] <WebLOCH> toxicle, I wish you the best of luck if you continue to use them, ive had no problems so far
[02:29] <WebLOCH> elad`, google it
[02:29] <elad`> ident2?
[02:29] <indypende> boxerboy29, yes..
[02:29] <pc22> shabbat shalom
[02:30] <indypende> look the link for my output
[02:30] <boxerboy29> kataklysm: cant you right click desktop and set icons that way?
[02:30] <indypende> my webcam stop and dmesg give me this output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2458, no one know why?
[02:30] <helpme> how do i unmount c & d drives? it says device is busy
[02:30] <atha> indypende: have you tried removing and reinserting the device?
[02:30] <juerry> indypende, hi there :p
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> indypende: seems the driver isnt talking to the device
[02:30] <indypende> atha, i try now
[02:30] <helpme> how do i unmount C: & D: win drives? it says device is busy........
[02:31] <WebLOCH> helpme, just leave them
[02:31] <WebLOCH> helpme, reboot
[02:31] <Toma-> !tell helpme fuser
[02:31] <juerry> i have a problem installing the x-common 1.08 update in breezy
[02:31] <Toma-> damn you ubotu
[02:31] <juerry> it give me an error
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> yeah lol........if you boot up with some webcams "plugged in" you have to unplug them and plug them in again
[02:31] <elad`> I installed ident2, and the wait didnt' get any shorter. Should I reboot, or was it just not the problem?
[02:31] <helpme> without rebooting??? anyway?
[02:32] <juerry> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: overwriting `/usr/lib/X11/fonts'
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> helpme: Linux doesnt have c and d drives
[02:32] <WebLOCH> elad`,  maybe it was the wrong software, maybe its not running, maybe its not configured and maybe its not the problem at all
[02:32] <elad`> brb
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> helpme: linux has hda  hdb  etc
[02:32] <WebLOCH> elad`, just google "LINUX IDENT" and learn how to use it properly that might yield the answer
[02:32] <helpme> Linux_Galore: yes yes i mean hda1 & hda5
[02:33] <Toma-> helpme: try sudo fuser -K /dev/hdb
[02:33] <Toma-> or hda1
[02:33] <adl> helpme: are you probably in a directory of such a drive?
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> helpme:  umount  /dev/hda5
[02:33] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, are you trying to tell me it has a firm, stable, device basis
[02:33] <juerry> some ideas?
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> WebLOCH: ??
[02:33] <thesaltydog> it looks like if I had to use usplash I cannot set small fonts in console
[02:33] <WebLOCH> Linux_Galore, it was a positive joke, didnt really work too well it would see
[02:34] <WebLOCH> m*
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> ??
[02:34] <WebLOCH> ?
[02:34] <Knorrie_> juerry: yes, same problem here
[02:35] <HiddenFly> when linux boots, it whines something that /dev/sda6 is unavailable and doesnt mount it, how can i automatically mount that partition on the boot?
[02:35] <juerry> Knorrie, so?
[02:35] <elad`> elad@AM:~$ ident2 <line> error: binding to port 113: bind(): Permission denied
[02:35] <Knorrie_> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[02:35] <juerry> Knorrie, there is nothing to do?
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> HiddenFly: sda is a scsi hardisk ?? or usb device
[02:35] <WebLOCH> HiddenFly,  you need to edit the etc/fstab
[02:35] <HiddenFly> Linux_Galore: its sata drive
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> aaah
[02:35] <Knorrie_> juerry: i don't know, that's why im here just like you :)
[02:36] <juerry> Knorrie, LOL
[02:36] <HiddenFly> WebLOCH: ok, how? its now: /dev/sda6       /iso            ext3    defaults        0       0
[02:36] <HiddenFly> for that partition
[02:36] <WebLOCH> okay thats wrong haha
[02:36] <HiddenFly> :D
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> HiddenFly: sure sda6 is correct.........its not another partition number
[02:36] <juerry> Knorrie, can you find somethinf with google?
[02:36] <Knorrie_> juerry: see topic
[02:36] <HiddenFly> what do i need to fix then
[02:36] <WebLOCH> HiddenFly, ill paste a line for you
[02:36] <kataklysm> boxerboy29: u cant right click in xfce4 and make icons, no it dont work like gnome or kde..
[02:36] <HiddenFly> k thx
[02:36] <indypende> atha, when i disconnect the device and reconnect the dmesg don't give the error but the image is noised!
[02:37] <WebLOCH> HiddenFly, /dev/sda5	/media/windata	ntfs	ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000	0	0
[02:37] <WebLOCH> thats what I use
[02:37] <juerry> Knorrie, :p
[02:37] <HiddenFly> Linux_Galore: well, when i do sudo mount /dev/sda6 /iso it works :)
[02:37] <verdeter_> http://verdeter02.skyblog.com
[02:37] <HiddenFly> yea, that partition is ext3
[02:37] <WebLOCH> HiddenFly,  /media/windata becomes the mount point, so make sure you create a directory for the mount point
[02:37] <WebLOCH> oh right
[02:37] <juerry> Knorrie, in fact i disabled updates, now i'm waiting for the stable version
[02:37] <HiddenFly> k
[02:38] <indypende> Linux_Galore, , when i disconnect the device and reconnect the dmesg don't give the error but the image is noised!
[02:38] <Knorrie_> juerry: I like some adventure :)
[02:38] <WebLOCH> well /iso still doesnt sound right
[02:38] <HiddenFly> i made that /iso directory myself
[02:38] <apokryphos> verdeter_: is there a reason for why you're spamming us?
[02:38] <WebLOCH> /dev/sda5       /media/blah               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:38] <WebLOCH> try something like that
[02:38] <toxicle> hi is there ncurses way to configure services?
[02:38] <HiddenFly> k
[02:38] <WebLOCH> but make sure you create the "blah" directory in "media"
[02:38] <toxicle> i forgot the command ..
[02:38] <Knorrie_> toxicle: what service?
[02:38] <HiddenFly> yea
[02:39] <toxicle> v*conf
[02:39] <WebLOCH> Hidden, save it
[02:39] <toxicle> Knorrie: all my services
[02:39] <HiddenFly> sure :)
[02:39] <WebLOCH> then "sudo mount -a" to remount all devices
[02:39] <HiddenFly> k
[02:39] <juerry> Knorrie, yeah!
[02:39] <Knorrie_> juerry: yeah what?
[02:39] <vinboy> hi guys
[02:40] <vinboy> why am I unable to install the w32codecs
[02:40] <apokryphos> vinboy: what instructions are you following?
[02:40] <vinboy> i added the repositories
[02:40] <vinboy> update it
[02:40] <WebLOCH> vinboy,  they are gone now
[02:40] <WebLOCH> vinboy,  no longer hosted on the repos
[02:40] <apokryphos> vinboy: which repositories, and what instructions?
[02:40] <vinboy> WebLOCH, is there anywhere i can get it?
[02:40] <pinucset> how can i do for having always the packajes updated? if there is a gimp release i dont want so wait to the next ubuntu for installing it with apt-get... please help...
[02:40] <wesley> HI people, pelase help me with a sound card seetings pelase
[02:40] <Knorrie_> toxicle: most of the configuration is editing textfiles, there are a lot of graphical tools to help you, but (sorry) i never saw curses-like tools
[02:40] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: it is, but on a different one
[02:40] <FaithX> Oh no, X is busted??? I am trying to compile wine against it...
[02:40] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, really ?
[02:40] <apokryphos> yes
[02:41] <vinboy> apokryphos, i followed the one in unofficial ubuntu guide website
[02:41] <Knorrie_> toxicle: but there will be some
[02:41] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, *cough* do you know where?
[02:41] <toxicle> Knorrie: yeah what is it ?
[02:41] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: well, ubuntulinux.nl repo has it; for hoary... you can download the deb
[02:41] <vinboy> lol
[02:41] <aftertaf> FaithX:  X busted? breezy updates? its fiwed not, reupdate
[02:41] <vinboy> ok
[02:41] <vinboy> cool
[02:41] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[02:41] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[02:41] <alisher> vinboy: marillat repositories
[02:41] <WebLOCH> hardcore!
[02:41] <WebLOCH> ty apokryphos
[02:41] <toxicle> Knorrie: sorry to tell you this but someone here told me and i used it it's "v**conf"
[02:41] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, you know much about audio?
[02:41] <vinboy> thanks apokryphos
[02:41] <FaithX> I installed build-essential but I still won't compile X apps .. what am I missing?
[02:41] <toxicle> the problem is i forgot :(
[02:41] <apokryphos> vinboy: that site is lame (the ubuntuguide one), I suggest you don't use it :).
[02:41] <aftertaf> x-dev maybe
[02:41] <juerry> Knorrie, yeah, adventure!
[02:42] <WebLOCH> HiddenFly, any luck?
[02:42] <Knorrie_> juerry: LOL
[02:42] <vinboy> apokryphos, really??? i find it very handy for newbie like me :)
[02:42] <juerry> how can i obtain the liblamemp3.so?
[02:42] <vinboy> apokryphos, any good one u recommended?
[02:42] <aftertaf> vinboy:  till it breaks your system for you.....
[02:42] <vinboy> lol.. is it that bad
[02:42] <juerry> i've installed yet the package lame with synaptic
[02:42] <nalioth> vinboy: it will be handy and fine until your box stops functioning
[02:42] <apokryphos> vinboy: it's a bad guide, yes; /msg ubotu ubuntuguide
[02:42] <pinucset> how can i do for having always the packajes updated? if there is a gimp release i dont want so wait to the next ubuntu for installing it with apt-get... please help...
[02:42] <vinboy> is there any other sites??
[02:42] <apokryphos> vinboy: yes, the Wiki and the docs.
[02:43] <vinboy> oh ok
[02:43] <vinboy> yup
[02:43] <toxicle> Knorrie: how to i find a file with "v*conf"
[02:43] <nalioth> vinboy: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:43] <vinboy> i refer to those as well
[02:43] <aftertaf> pinucset:  the answer to your question is in your question.....
[02:43] <vinboy> i'll bookmark it
[02:43] <aftertaf> pinucset:  apt-get ;)
[02:43] <pinucset> but in my apt-get i dont have always the last release! :S
[02:43] <helpme2> have all of u here ordered the ubuntu cds at shipit? or am i the lucky first one:)
[02:43] <HiddenFly> WebLOCH: it mounted it ok now when i did that mount -a command
[02:43] <aftertaf> pinucset:  the latest stable one, you do...
[02:43] <WebLOCH> helpme2, I ordered Hoary aaaaaaaaaaages agp
[02:43] <juerry> when i tryto encode an mp3 file, audacity ask me for this liblamemp3.so in the usr/lib folder
[02:43] <WebLOCH> ago, only got them recently
[02:44] <juerry> how can i do?
[02:44] <nalioth> vinboy: if you are "new to *nix", the ubuntuguide WILL cause you pain
[02:44] <toxicle> sorry let me rephrase this
[02:44] <pinucset> and how can i install someone not stable, for having the last packajes?
[02:44] <WebLOCH> HiddenFly, then it should mount everytime you boot now
[02:44] <helpme2> WebLOCH: :(
[02:44] <toxicle> how do i find a filename v*conf ?
[02:44] <alisher> vinboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=357314&postcount=5
[02:44] <helpme2> ;)
[02:44] <Knorrie_> toxicle: locate conf | egrep "v.*conf"
[02:44] <HiddenFly> yea thats what i thought
[02:44] <aftertaf> juerry:  liblame0
[02:44] <atha> juerry: not sure about liblamemp3.so but liblame0 includes libmp3lame.so
[02:44] <apokryphos> alisher: no, do not advise that
[02:44] <minimec> hi. I have a mayor problem with my wlan configuration with breezy badger. I don't no what to do. I had a debian sid installation on my laptop with wlan (working) until I installed 'Breezy Badger' yesterday (ubuntu works great with my HP). I use the same /etc/network/interfaces file, but I don't get any connection. The two adapters are in ad-hoc mode, they do 'see' each other, I deactivated WEP. I don't know what to do. The Problem is on t
[02:45] <Knorrie_> toxicle: hm that shows lots of files on my system :)
[02:45] <apokryphos> alisher: you shouldn't recommend people use marillat anymore at all (debian/ubuntu vary oto much now)
[02:45] <juerry> atha & aftertaf, i've installed liblame0 too but i can't find liblamemp3.so
[02:45] <toxicle> Knorrie: yes it does
[02:45] <helpme2> do i need to umpunt partitions before manipulating them?
[02:45] <WebLOCH> minimec, the problem is you are using breezy
[02:45] <WebLOCH> minimec, breezy is buggy, as it is unfinished
[02:45] <juerry> atha & aftertaf, maybe i should reboot?
[02:45] <alisher> apokryphos: ok
[02:45] <aftertaf> never reboot linux ;)
[02:46] <aftertaf> juerry:  i dont know then.....
[02:46] <WebLOCH> man, at least i google for hours before coming here to ask for help
[02:46] <juerry> aftertaf, :(
[02:46] <wesley> HI, people.. i'tryying to intall skype
[02:46] <WebLOCH> I get the feeling some of you are just piling on the questions
[02:46] <wesley> but is almost impossible
[02:46] <vinboy> thanks alisher
[02:46] <WebLOCH> wesley, read the user documentation
[02:46] <wesley> yep
[02:46] <aftertaf> juerry:  audacity recommends ladspa-plugin
[02:46] <aftertaf>    try that.
[02:46] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: yeah, this place shouldn't be a substitute for wiki/google
[02:47] <wesley> but even know.. i can do it
[02:47] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, I think there should be a separate channel for breezy
[02:47] <aftertaf> WebLOCH:  :) agree too
[02:47] <FaithX> I google for hours and then I come in here and ask questions I never google about
[02:47] <WebLOCH> and everyone talking about it here should be autokicked
[02:47] <FaithX> Where is here anywhere?
[02:47] <minimec> WebLOCH: Hmm.. I am not sure. I can use the network with eth0 ethernet. Maybe a problem of iwconfig...
[02:47] <WebLOCH> minimec, either way it relates to a problem with breezy
[02:47] <WebLOCH> or it would be working right now
[02:47] <Knorrie_> toxicle: i'm sorry, perhaps someone else can help you, i never used cnursus based configuration, reading man pages and editing text files is more flexible
[02:47] <vinboy> is the Cerkinfo Debian Repository any good?
[02:47] <aftertaf> FaithX:  >>> #philosopical
[02:47] <vinboy> i found a w32codecs there
[02:48] <wesley> i'm using the gnome
[02:48] <aftertaf> vinboy:  you can get w32 from mplayer website
[02:48] <toxicle> Knorrie: ok then ... which file to edit ?
[02:48] <vinboy> oh really
[02:48] <WebLOCH> Im going to have to start my project soon
[02:48] <vinboy> thx aftertaf
[02:48] <wesley> WebLOCH, so, i'm using the gnome...
[02:48] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, you know much about audio you fiend?
[02:48] <WebLOCH> wesley, the gnome gnoes
[02:49] <minimec> WebLOCH: I'll try a downgrade of the wireless-tools. Let's see what that brings. THX
[02:49] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: quite ignorant there, unfortunately.
[02:49] <juerry> aftertaf, what should i do then
[02:49] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, fair play, someone helped me yesterday and had it cleaned up in minutes
[02:49] <WebLOCH> I just cant remember who
[02:49] <aftertaf> juerry:  apt-get install ladspa-plugin
[02:49] <toxicle> Knorrie: i installed snort and it was working fine
[02:50] <minime-> can procmail make copies for incoming mails to another mailaddress?
[02:50] <toxicle> Knorrie: after reboot .. it does not startup
[02:50] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: there's a debugging sound problems thread -- did you check that?
[02:50] <Knorrie_> is it safe to restart X while having a not fully upgraded x-common?
[02:50] <vinboy> so why did they remove the w32codecs from the normal server?
[02:50] <WebLOCH> apokryphos,  yup
[02:50] <aftertaf> vinboy:  legal reasons
[02:50] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: s/thread/wik entry/
[02:50] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, ive read everything i can find online
[02:50] <vinboy> oh ic
[02:50] <Knorrie_> toxicle: wat does `/etc/init.d/snort start` say?
[02:50] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: sometimes you just need the guru :)
[02:51] <vinboy> aftertaf, so there will be no more w32codecs release in future?
[02:51] <juerry> aftertaf, tx
[02:51] <aftertaf> vinboy:  no idea......
[02:51] <apokryphos> vinboy: it's not legal, but people will pretty much always produce
[02:51] <apokryphos> *produce it
[02:51] <toxicle> Knorrie: there is no file named snort ... that's why it's not starting up
[02:51] <vinboy> yea
[02:51] <vinboy> well i think i better keep a copy then
[02:51] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, tell me about it :(
[02:51] <aftertaf> vinboy:  convert everything to ogg ;)
[02:51] <WebLOCH> I've just found the funniest link of my life
[02:51] <vinboy> :)
[02:52] <aftertaf> WebLOCH:  share ;)
[02:52] <WebLOCH> everyone go to offtopic and read it
[02:52] <WebLOCH> ahh okay.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=8214536142/
[02:52] <toxicle> Knorrie: thats /etc/rc.d/initd/
[02:52] <HeavyD> does anyone else have problems with updating x-common?
[02:52] <vinboy> did u guys know someone was selling kidney on ebay
[02:52] <toxicle> vinboy: how much ? ehe
[02:52] <WebLOCH> I remember someone selling "nothing"
[02:52] <Toma-> vinboy: for consumption or for filterin?
[02:52] <nalioth> ebay talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[02:53] <WebLOCH> my fault, sorry
[02:53] <Knorrie_> toxicle: erm? /etc/rc.d/init.d?
[02:53] <WebLOCH> that link is pretty funny tho
[02:53] <Knorrie_> toxicle: are you running ubuntu?
[02:53] <toxicle> Knorrie: yes i am hoary
[02:54] <vinboy> it was up to about NZ$1.3 million
[02:54] <vinboy> then ebay took it off.. coz it is against the law to sell human organs
[02:54] <toxicle> Knorrie: there is no /etc/initd
[02:54] <Knorrie_> toxicle: /etc/init.d
[02:54] <vinboy> the guy selling it to make money to support his family in the disaster
[02:54] <vinboy> pretty sad
[02:54] <Knorrie_> if you have no /etc/init.d nothing will start when you boot :D
[02:54] <aftertaf> HeavyD:  checking.....
[02:54] <toxicle> Knorrie: I should slap myself
[02:55] <toxicle> Knorrie: ok i see the file ...
[02:55] <toxicle> thanks
[02:55] <Knorrie_> np
[02:55] <toxicle> i needed that :)
[02:55] <Knorrie_> :P
[02:55] <WebLOCH> I had a little fit this morning
[02:55] <WebLOCH> I installed apache
[02:55] <toxicle> sorry was at "that" dir and wrongly assumed
[02:55] <WebLOCH> and then for some reason thought that it had hosted my entire drive
[02:56] <WebLOCH> because I kept attempting to reach "localhost" in opera, which lead me back to the filesystem
[02:56] <WebLOCH> took about 15 minutes to figure out it had nothing to do with apache
[02:56] <toxicle> how do i restart all services without rebooting ?
[02:57] <toxicle> or more like a service
[02:57] <Knorrie_> toxicle: /etc/init.d/snort restart
[02:57] <toxicle> Knorrie: sweet
[02:57] <toxicle> Knorrie: is this the dir i place startup scripts?
[02:57] <aftertaf> HeavyD:  nope, i just have gnome-screensaver still hanging around...
[02:57] <toxicle> Knorrie: what should i man ?
[02:58] <aftertaf> toxicle:  sort of.....
[02:58] <toxicle> to write startup scripts
[02:58] <aftertaf> !cli
[02:58] <ubotu> methinks cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[02:58] <Knorrie_> debian/ubuntu place startup scripts in /etc/init.d/ and the dirs /etc/rcX.d have symlinks to it for each runlevel
[02:58] <aftertaf> ^^ toxicle for scripting, then init.d for startup
[02:58] <atha> toxicle: there's a file called skeleton, which you could check out
[02:59] <aftertaf> atha:  really, what does it do? what is it?
[02:59] <atha> example initscript
[02:59] <aftertaf> oki
[02:59] <toxicle> atha: yeah whgat does skeleton do ?
[02:59] <da_bon_bon> shit! i cant login to shipit
[03:00] <da_bon_bon> always sends me launchap validation
[03:00] <da_bon_bon> and when i click on the launchpad link, always, page not found
[03:00] <da_bon_bon> any one else experiencing the same ?
[03:00] <jamey3> god wdm is *ugly*
[03:01] <aftertaf> toxicle:  its an example initscript.
[03:01] <da_bon_bon> whats wdm, jamey3 ?
[03:01] <toxicle> is there a enlightement packages ?
[03:01] <toxicle> aftertaf: ok thanks
[03:01] <enyc> Urrrm
[03:01] <nalioth> toxicle: enlightenment is available
[03:02] <jamey3> da_bon_bon, WINGS display manager, similar to gdm (GNOME display manager)
[03:02] <enyc> whats the ''right way'' to install the ubuntu kernel source tree  with all the patches etc.  just like that used to build the ubuntu linux kernel source ?
[03:02] <toxicle> nalioth: apt-get install *** ?
[03:02] <jamey3> used to manage logging in, i.e. the "welcome" screen... jeez wdm is one ugly bastard, gdm is lovely
[03:02] <da_bon_bon> jamey3: ok
[03:02] <toxicle> nalioth: I wanna use the latest d17
[03:02] <FaithX> is there a meta package for building X apps?
[03:02] <jamey3> da_bon_bon, i just did a server install of ubuntu and then added: x-window-system-core, xfce4, wdm, mozilla-firefox, synaptic
[03:03] <da_bon_bon> jamey3: you like minimal installs, it seems ?
[03:03] <jamey3> :)
[03:03] <jamey3> why shouldn't i, don't you?
[03:04] <toxicle> anyone know the name of the enlightement package ?
[03:04] <knewt> ah. i was going to ask how stable breezy is right now, but then i read the topic :/
[03:05] <elad`> Why can't I send files in GAIM, but can receive them?
[03:05] <alisher> toxicle: "enlightenment"
[03:05] <WebLOCH> elad`, thats the nature of GAIM, MSN and the interconnecting of the networks and protocols,
[03:05] <elad`> I can't even try - I don't even get to the point where the firewall is preventing me from doing so or anything, the option is disabled.
[03:06] <gerarcone> i've installed a lot of plugins, but totem still doesn't work. sometimes it works well, sometimes it stops for an error prior to play a video file, sometimes it play the audio but not the video. i'm using VLC and all is going well
[03:06] <elad`> WebLOCH, but someone else, using GAIM, was able to send me a file.
[03:06] <gerarcone> there is a way to fix the problem or make VLC the default player
[03:06] <WebLOCH> elad`, yeah thats my point, its not stable and its not predictable
[03:06] <WebLOCH> elad`, my ex-housemate i cant send to or receive from, i dont have problems with anyone else, nor does he
[03:07] <elad`> Well, I'd like it to, unstably and unpredictably, let me send files, the way it let that other guy.
[03:07] <WebLOCH> elad`, well why don't you fix it then.
[03:07] <elad`> Maybe I will!
[03:07] <WebLOCH> good
[03:07] <elad`> :P
[03:07] <WebLOCH> problem solved
[03:08] <WebLOCH> ill inform bugzilla they can remove gaim, you are taking care of it
[03:08] <enyc> Please, does anybody know what the 'right' way to install the ubuntu kernel source-tree, with all its patches etc. done ?
[03:08] <MrRagga> hi, i am looking for the network-admin command but it seems to be missing in kubuntu breezy preview, any hints? i asked #kubuntu already, but they couldn't answer
[03:08] <elad`> WebLOCH, give me 90 minutes though, as I want to have lunch first.
[03:08] <WebLOCH> elad`, no problem hearty last meal and all that
[03:08] <Whistler> is breeze`s x broken?
[03:08] <WebLOCH> breeze is broken
[03:08] <Whistler> so i shouldnt update now?
[03:08] <WebLOCH> .
[03:09] <WebLOCH> no
[03:09] <WebLOCH> 20days it goes stable
[03:09] <WebLOCH> wait till then
[03:09] <gerarcone> how can i encode .mpeg starting from a DivX avi?
[03:10] <gerarcone> my target is burning DVD's
[03:10] <Whistler> i am allready in breezy
[03:10] <gerarcone> DVDs, sorry
[03:10] <Whistler> but i ask about update
[03:11] <Knorrie_> Whistler: i just updated, only x-common won't install completely, im now going to restart X to see what happens :>
[03:13] <elad`> WebLOCH, OK, I've solved the problem, you can send files to your ex-housemate now.
[03:13] <x[BrB] x> how can i remove programs like games in abuntu??
[03:14] <jamey3> x[BrB] x, launch the Synaptic Package Manager application
[03:14] <enyc> x[Br: remove the pacakges you dont want through apt-get or 'synaptic'
[03:15] <x[BrB] x> ok
[03:15] <mon> hi. why does "gedit *.java" only open 1 .java file instead of everyone in that dir? is this a bug?
[03:16] <samot> How do I adjust the mouse sensitivity in Ubuntu (KDE)? Been looking everywhere but can only find the mouse acceleration setting
[03:17] <Seveas> mon, works fine here :|
[03:17] <shawarma> mon: You don't put any of those quotes on your command line, do you?
[03:18] <Knorrie_> Whistler: I don't know what's broken exactly, but everything seems to work
[03:18] <Whistler> k
[03:19] <Seveas> What's busted about X bob2 ?
[03:20] <aftertaf> Seveas:  its repaired again.... dist-upgrade wanted to remove 55 X packages this midday ;)
[03:20] <Seveas> ah ok
[03:20] <Seveas> I just dist-upgraded and nothing weird happened :)
[03:20] <Flying_Eagle> samot, fire up "kcontrol"->"peripherials"->"mouse"->"extended"
[03:20] <Echelon-H> what is the command to delete dir?
[03:20] <aftertaf> Whistler:  you can update again, it has been fixed
[03:20] <aftertaf> Echelon-H:  rm -rf
[03:20] <deFrysk> Echelon-H, rm -rf <folder>
[03:20] <aftertaf> use with caution when root ;)
[03:21] <JonnyRo> yea
[03:21] <shawarma> Always use with caution :-)
[03:21] <JonnyRo> it will totally let you do rm -rf /
[03:21] <Whistler> ok thx
[03:21] <JonnyRo> rm -rf ./ and rm -rf / are so close together
[03:21] <samot> Flying_Eagle: I don't have any "Extended" tab, just "Advanced", and I can only set the acceleration there, not the sensitivity
[03:21] <Echelon-H> thanks
[03:21] <twibbler> webLOCH: any joy on sound yet ?...
[03:22] <Flying_Eagle> samot, acceleration == sensibility
[03:22] <mon> shawarma: no i dont :)
[03:22] <mon> Seveas: it has worked here too, but now it doesn't anymore. don't have a clue why...
[03:22] <shawarma> mon: Heh, ok.
[03:22] <Flying_Eagle> and right, i meant "advanced", a problem of not using english kde-version :)
[03:22] <x[BrB] x> theres an error when i launch my synaptic package manager
[03:23] <samot> Flying_Eagle: no, it's not the same, but even if it was, I've already set it to as low as possible and I want lower
[03:23] <aftertaf> x[BrB] x:  do sudo apt-get update first.....
[03:23] <aftertaf> might go away then
[03:23] <Seveas> mon, check whether there actually are more .java files ;)
[03:23] <Flying_Eagle> samot, kdes "acceleration" is at least the same as windows "sensibility"
[03:24] <mon> Seveas: there are :)
[03:24] <mon> Seveas: as i said. it has worked before (maybe warty?) but now it just opens 1 file
[03:25] <x[BrB] x> thanks
[03:25] <Jz3> Hey... I'm trying to update mozilla but when I run update it gives me error which says..
[03:25] <Jz3> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[03:25] <Jz3> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[03:25] <aftertaf> ok all... weekend is here, and a good one to all ;)    and to those in rita's path, hang in there and good luck.......
[03:25] <Seveas> Jz3, do NOT paste in here... file a bug instead :)
[03:25] <nalioth> Jz3: in the future please use a pastebin
[03:26] <Jz3> ok
[03:26] <mon> Seveas: gedit file1 && gedit file2 does work however
[03:26] <nalioth> Jz3: or #flood
[03:26] <jroes> heyas
[03:26] <Jz3> That isn't very long text so...
[03:26] <aftertaf> Jz3:  rules is rul3z!
[03:26] <Jz3> yes yes... I will use pastebin next time
[03:26] <jroes> anyone know what I could do to troubleshoot a box that is having trouble starting grub?  I ran an ubuntu install, and everything went fine, but then when I rebooted the box it locked up loading grub.  I was thinking there might be something cool on the liveCD I could try to run some tests, but I'm not sure what to use
[03:27] <Jz3> But you have any idea why it gives error?
[03:27] <nalioth> jroes: what hardware?
[03:27] <jroes> extremely old box - has 128mb ram, celeron 366...
[03:27] <nalioth> Jz3: bad scripting on the packagers part
[03:27] <jroes> 4.3gb fujitsu ide hd
[03:28] <nalioth> jroes: what exactly does it do?
[03:28] <Jz3> nalioth: Am I able tofix it somehow?
[03:28] <x[BrB] x> nalioth whre can i get summary of commands for ubundu?
[03:28] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: i dont understand. what kind of commands?
[03:28] <spola> has anyone ever heard of a program that allows for encrypted phonecalls (well with pc's not phones)?
[03:28] <jroes> after the install, I took the CD out and rebooted, and when it starts it says "Loading GRUB Stage 1" something like that
[03:28] <jroes> and then it freezes
[03:28] <bwlang> jroes: i recommend trying lilo instead... it's just not worht the effort to make grub work
[03:29] <jroes> re-run the config and try using lilo?  ok
[03:29] <nalioth> jroes: yes, lilo is easier.
[03:29] <x[BrB] x> nalioth commands that we are entering at the terminal
[03:29] <twibbler> Is there anybody here yet who can help resolve a sound card problem... which has been bugging me for days and which involves the sound device being there but not being found by alsa ..
[03:29] <jroes> it's just weird... I used all the defaults
[03:29] <jroes> and I've never had a problem with it before
[03:29] <jroes> but, this -is- completely different hardware
[03:29] <jroes> thanks guys
[03:29] <nalioth> jroes: you shouldnt have to run thru the whole install, just 'esc' out of the current question (after you choose language/kb)
[03:29] <jroes> I'll try ti out
[03:29] <nalioth> jroes: and go to the 'install bootloader'
[03:30] <martii> anyone know why after upgrade to bereezy I lose my keyboard setup ?
[03:30] <kairu0> twibbler, what is your sound chipset?
[03:30] <jroes> nalioth: oh, ok... after it installs lilo just reboot without going through the rest of the steps?
[03:30] <twibbler> kairu0: it is a sis5513 i believe ... running a realtek on board ac97 sound card ....
[03:30] <x[BrB] x> i admire you guys its seems you know everything :)
[03:31] <Toma-> everything except howto party :O
[03:31] <x[BrB] x> i hope i can be a support some other time
[03:31] <nalioth> jroes: your system is already installed
[03:32] <kairu0> twibbler, i have a ac97 chipset and it required an upgrade to alsa 1.09. are you on hoary or breezy?
[03:32] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: look in /usr/bin, /bin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/sbin
[03:32] <twibbler> kairu0: im on hoary but intend to go to breezy when it is out ...
[03:33] <twibbler> kairu0: also tried to recompile alsa etc with no luck ...
[03:33] <JustSteve> hey i'm getting an odd error after installing breezy via cd, "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base"  could this have something to do with me installing the latest daily build rather than the pre-release?
[03:33] <Knorrie_> JustSteve: see topic
[03:34] <JustSteve> doh, sorry
[03:35] <JustSteve> so i suppose that is a "crazy thing Synaptic is trying to do and i can prolly just delete that .deb then
[03:35] <Knorrie_> JustSteve: I'm working on my system with not-fully-upgraded x-common but i have no probs
[03:35] <kairu0> twibbler, what do you mean no luck?
[03:36] <JustSteve> yeah i don't have issues either Knorrie_
[03:36] <Knorrie_> JustSteve: seems it's fixed now :P
[03:36] <twibbler> kairu0: it wont recompile ..... keeps getting loads of errors .....
[03:36] <JustSteve> i guess so
[03:36] <Knorrie_> i'm waiting for my mirror to update with the x-common package
[03:36] <hou5ton> Seveas:  hey ... i put breezy on my lappy
[03:36] <Nikopol> Knorrie, I read a workaround for that
[03:37] <hou5ton> Seveas:  remember ... we talked about it yesterday a little bit
[03:37] <kairu0> twibbler, i dont think theres another way around it, so tell me what your errors are
[03:38] <Belutz> what mysql version and php version does breezy have?
[03:38] <jamey3> on the cupsysd web interface, i can't authorize myself i.e. it doesn't accept my username/password. how can i get it to work?
[03:38] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: where? wat?
[03:38] <x[BrB] x> how can i check how much space do i still have on my hdd?
[03:38] <jamey3> df
[03:38] <Nikopol> sorry x-common Knorrie
[03:38] <nalioth> !info mysql breezy
[03:38] <Nikopol> Knorrie_, you got it sorted?
[03:38] <jamey3> x[BrB] x, start a terminal window and type "df -h"
[03:39] <nalioth> Belutz: what are the package names?
[03:39] <twibbler> kairu0: I have downloaded the new alsa source from the realtek site .... installed the linux source ..... run ./config with the correct directory but fails to fin version.h ... so find a copy of version.h copy into required directory then ./config seems to work ... then make fails with so many divide by zero .. files not found erros difficult to follow ...
[03:39] <jamey3> on the cupsysd web interface, i can't authorize myself i.e. it doesn't accept my username/password. how can i get it to work?
[03:39] <Belutz> nalioth: for mysql, the mysql-server, for php i expected php5 to be available in breezy
[03:39] <Nikopol> Knorrie_, apt-get remove x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
[03:39] <Nikopol> apt-get upgrade
[03:39] <Nikopol> apt-get install x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
[03:39] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: install 'discus' for a neat display of disk space
[03:40] <nalioth> !info mysql-server breezy
[03:40] <Nikopol> Knorrie_, does the trick it seems
[03:40] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[03:40] <twibbler> jamey3: the cupsys web interface is disabled under ubuntu by default ...
[03:40] <nalioth> Belutz: your turn
[03:40] <jamey3> twibbler, well I'm running XFCE.. so how can I add my printer?
[03:40] <twibbler> jamey3: system -> admin -> printing ...
[03:40] <pitti> jamey3: /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz, under "Important security notes"
[03:41] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: ok, cool, but sounds rather heavy
[03:41] <jamey3> twibbler, i don't have a system menu, this is xfce
[03:41] <Belutz> !info php5 breezy
[03:41] <ubotu> php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[03:41] <jamey3> pitti, thanks i'll check it out
[03:41] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[03:41] <Nikopol> Knorrie_, true - it works fine but you might as well wait for the update to percolate through
[03:41] <Renski> !info MadWifi breezy
[03:41] <[Wiebel] > seems that my synaptics driver borkes in breezy
[03:41] <[Wiebel] > After starting X it stops
[03:41] <kairu0> twibbler, in order to install that, you'll need gcc, linux-headers, libasound-dev (as many as I remember). check if you have these 3
[03:41] <[Wiebel] > DeviceOff caled
[03:41] <[Wiebel] > called
[03:41] <Belutz> great!! thanks nalioth, but i expected breezy will provide mysql 4.1.x
[03:41] <Renski> !info madwifi breezy
[03:41] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: yeah, I'll do that, because I don't have problems now
[03:42] <Flying_Eagle> samot, "find ~/.kde -type f -name "*rc" -exec egrep -i accel '{}' \; -exec echo '{}' \;" will give you the file where you can edit the sensitivity manually
[03:42] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: tnx
[03:42] <pitti> jamey3: but using gnome-cups-manager is really prefered
[03:42] <Nikopol> Knorrie_, np :)
[03:42] <nalioth> twibbler: install "build-essential" to get compiling basics. you'll still need linux-headers, and libasound-dev and maybe more
[03:42] <[Wiebel] > anyone running breezy ran into the same issue?
[03:42] <Nikopol> Knorrie_, actually they seem to have hit the servers as I speak :)
[03:42] <planadecU> hi
[03:43] <planadecU> i just installed ubuntu lite and i try to login as root but i don't know the password, anyone does ?
[03:43] <jamey3> pitti, thanks that's exactly what I needed to know :)
[03:43] <jamey3> planadecU, by default the root account is disabled
[03:43] <planadecU> how do i set it up ?
[03:44] <planadecU> i try "sudo passwd root"
[03:44] <planadecU> but nothing
[03:44] <jamey3> read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:44] <planadecU> i know how to do it with ubuntu not with the lite version
[03:44] <twibbler> kairu0: nalioth: just installing now .....
[03:46] <planadecU> jamey3 its says nothing about ubuntu LITE
[03:46] <samot> Flying_Eagle: thanks! I'll have a look
[03:46] <JustSteve> Nikopol, i'm still getting the same error about overwriting
[03:46] <Nikopol> JustSteve, which is?
[03:46] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: which mirror are you on? :)
[03:47] <Nikopol> the UK ones I think
[03:47] <Nikopol> just checking
[03:47] <jamey3> planadecU, what happens when you run "sudo passwd root"?
[03:47] <Nikopol> gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:47] <x[BrB] x> my synaptic package mnager has still an error :(
[03:48] <Nikopol> what is the error?
[03:48] <mypapit> thought you just run "sudo passwd"
[03:48] <JustSteve> just a sec
[03:48] <Nikopol> np :d
[03:48] <x[BrB] x> - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:48] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base
[03:48] <JustSteve> Nikopol "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base"
[03:49] <Nikopol> yeah - maybe I sidestepped the problem with the uninstall reinstall thing
[03:49] <deFrysk>  dpkg --force-overwrite -i file.deb
[03:49] <deFrysk> try that , force the .deb
[03:49] <hou5ton> I have just installed Breezy on my laptop ... and a few months ago when doing Hoary, followed the adding repositories guidelines on the Unofficial Ubuntu site.  Is there something like that for Breezy?
[03:49] <x[BrB] x> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386
[03:49] <hourglass> hi ...to everyone..jus got started on ubuntu....
[03:50] <Knorrie_> hourglass: welcome :)
[03:50] <Knorrie_> deFrysk: I'll try
[03:50] <x[BrB] x> welcome :)
[03:50] <Nikopol> apt-get remove x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
[03:50] <Nikopol> apt-get upgrade
[03:50] <Nikopol> apt-get install x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
[03:50] <hourglass> hope ill learn from you
[03:50] <Nikopol> That was what I did and it sorted the problem out and it's all updating fine nwo
[03:51] <twibbler> kairu0: ok have everything inc alsa source ... from repositories .... do I need to get the alsa source from elswhere to compile ?.
[03:51] <hourglass> can i connect to the internet by using an internal modem?
[03:51] <Nikopol> the apt-getupgrade lets you install x-common then you can reinstall what you uninstalled in the first command
[03:52] <Toma-> twibbler: why u compiling alsa?
[03:52] <Nikopol> JustSteve, you tried that trick?
[03:52] <JustSteve> Nikopol, thanks trying that now as well
[03:52] <twibbler> Toma: sound card not found .... why know of a quicker solution ? ....
[03:52] <Toma-> what sound card?
[03:52] <batoms> i still can't get my win key to work
[03:53] <JustSteve> yay no more funky update icon
[03:53] <deFrysk> twibbler, got a build in soundcard perhaps and use anotherone ?
[03:53] <JustSteve> Nikopol, thanks a lot :-)
[03:53] <Nikopol> JustSteve, cool
[03:53] <Nikopol> np
[03:53] <twibbler> deFrysk: yep got a built in sound card ..... not got another one to use ...
[03:53] <x[BrB] x> my synaptic package mnager has still an error :(
[03:53] <Nikopol> JustSteve, it worked then?
[03:54] <Toma-> also, compiling alsa wont solve anything. itll piss u off plenty, but wont install your card
[03:54] <batoms> using the the default settings my win keys maps to 0x73 in the keyboard shortcuts
[03:54] <deFrysk> twibbler, oke
[03:54] <Toma-> twibbler: do u know what chipset it uses?
[03:54] <x[BrB] x> i've alrady updated
[03:54] <twibbler> Toma: sis5513 ac97 ....
[03:54] <Toma-> ive got one of them
[03:54] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: if you are using breezy, problems will happen often until it finals
[03:54] <JustSteve> Nikopol seems to, no angry red icon from the update manager
[03:54] <deFrysk> twibbler, asrock mobo ?
[03:55] <Nikopol> JustSteve, sound good ;)
[03:55] <twibbler> deFrysk: ? sorry dont undertsand ...
[03:55] <JustSteve>  and apt-get is running fine as well
[03:55] <Nikopol> x[BrB] x, your sourced update with no trouble?
[03:55] <x[BrB] x> nalioth ok.. so how can i remove some program??
[03:55] <Toma-> twibbler: is it turnd on in the bios?
[03:55] <deFrysk> the motherboard, is it an asrock ?
[03:55] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: I did your workaround too
[03:55] <Knorrie_> Nikopol: seems to work fine
[03:55] <twibbler> Toma: yes ......
[03:55] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: using synaptic/kynaptic
[03:55] <Nikopol> Knorrie_, not mine tho - was posted on ubuntuforums
[03:55] <twibbler> Toma: or at least I think so according to my knowledge of bios ...
[03:55] <Nikopol> but glad to see it works for you too :)
[03:56] <Knorrie_> yeah
[03:56] <Toma-> twibbler: what ubuntu u using?
[03:56] <Knorrie_> so back to work :)
[03:56] <Knorrie_> coffee!!
[03:56] <twibbler> Toma: Hoary ......
[03:56] <wesley> i cant install my skye
[03:56] <deFrysk> Knorrie, what is it , coffee or work ?
[03:56] <twibbler> will be going to breezy 13th oct ...
[03:56] <Knorrie_> deFrysk: both at the same time
[03:56] <deFrysk> twibbler, some souncards do not work on hoary but work fine on breezy
[03:57] <Knorrie_> deFrysk: no I'm not a workaholic ;)
[03:57] <deFrysk> Knorrie, lucky you ;)
[03:57] <x[BrB] x> i cant use synaptic.. theres an error
[03:57] <twibbler> deFrysk: tried breezy live cd and still nothing ....
[03:57] <x[BrB] x> nalioth W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20(20050908)_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:57] <deFrysk> twibbler, If its a sec hand pc I would have a lookat the bios and check if the onboard sound is enabled
[03:58] <Antioch> Whats the big difference between Hoary and Breezy that makes things not work, or need different install methods??
[03:58] <twibbler> defrysk: Nope not second hand .... switched from win xp and sound was fine ...
[03:58] <deFrysk> twibbler, I would even check that if it is a new one
[03:58] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: do you know how to edit your sources.list?
[03:58] <WebLOCH> thats the first good breezy question ive heard all day
[03:58] <WebLOCH> and night
[03:58] <x[BrB] x> nalioth nope :(
[03:58] <sjj> What's the official ubuntu backports URL? backports.ubuntuforums.org appears to be down for me.
[03:58] <Toma-> twibbler: try modprobe snd_intel8x0 && modprobe snd_ac97_codec
[03:59] <Antioch> Haha, I suppose it is
[03:59] <twibbler> Toma: done first one no result will try second one now ....
[03:59] <WebLOCH> it wont help
[03:59] <Nikopol> x[BrB] x, that's the CD it's looking for I think
[03:59] <WebLOCH> the audio device isnt there
[04:00] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and put a # in front of your top line starting with deb cdrom
[04:00] <WebLOCH> twibbler, try this from command line "aplay -l" and paste output here
[04:00] <twibbler> Toma: no results back from either ...
[04:00] <x[BrB] x> nikopol my cd is inserted on my cdrom
[04:00] <sjj> And if it is down, can anyone tell me the correct sources.list for backports?
[04:00] <Nikopol> well you can get all the files from the internet x[BrB] x
[04:00] <deFrysk> twibbler, no results back means the modules are added
[04:00] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: you are not using the network to install?
[04:00] <twibbler> WebLOCH no soundcards found ...
[04:01] <Nikopol> x[BrB] x, you on dial-up
[04:01] <x[BrB] x> nalioth nope
[04:01] <larsrohdin> Hi, is there anything you can do to make filetransfers with GAIM go faster? Using the msn protocol...
[04:01] <deFrysk> is alsaconf in ubuntu ?
[04:01] <WebLOCH> larsrohdin, compress and recompress files
[04:01] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: then you'll need a newer breezy image then
[04:01] <twibbler> deFrysk: this is the problem... I have been through all settings files configurations etc all semm good, cannot find a reason the sound card is not found ....
[04:01] <Toma-> alsaconf conflists with glib or some crap. or so they say
[04:01] <larsrohdin> WebLOCH, ok... but thats not really what I meant
[04:01] <larsrohdin> Nothing else?
[04:02] <Nikopol> x[BrB] x, nalioth , or use the internet to install the updates - how fast is your connection x[BrB] x ?
[04:02] <batoms> do the win keys work for anyone else or is it just me
[04:02] <Toma-> twibbler: turn it off in the bios, reboot into ubuntu. then reboot again and enable the sound card then go into ubuntu? might work...
[04:02] <larsrohdin> batoms, works fine for me
[04:02] <x[BrB] x> theres no error enymore nalioth
[04:02] <Nikopol> batoms, you can set them to work in System preference
[04:02] <atha> twibbler: which udev version do you have?
[04:03] <patata_fregida> my keyboard doesnt work in console mode, some keys are swaped, how do i change it to spanish (es) keyboard ?
[04:03] <Knorrie_> gphpedit is acting really weird, when i type text it garbles everything around
[04:03] <salkin> Anyone here use network-manager to manage wireless connections?
[04:03] <deFrysk> twibbler, check the bios plug and play os should be disabled onboard sound should be enabled
[04:03] <spirit_gdl> greetings everyone
[04:03] <atha> or does it handle audio devices at all
[04:03] <twibbler> deFrysk: bios plug and play enabled sound enabled ....
[04:03] <twibbler> atha: how do I check which version ...
[04:03] <deFrysk> twibbler, disable plug and play os
[04:04] <Knorrie_> perhaps it's something with that x-common fonts stuff, let's restart X :
[04:04] <atha> twibbler: dpkg -l udev|grep ^ii
[04:04] <batoms> Nikopol: that doesn't work for me
[04:04] <twibbler> deFrysk: ok .... going to disable plug and play and sound ... rebooot .. then enable sound ...
[04:04] <atha> wrong version caused at least some other device problems lately
[04:04] <Nikopol> batoms, ah :(
[04:04] <salkin> more specifically, any idea where network-manager stores the wep key? I think I've given it the wrong value and it doesn't connect, but there's no obvious way to try another value.
[04:04] <twibbler> atha: 0.050-3ubuntu7
[04:05] <deFrysk> sound should be enabled!!
[04:05] <batoms> Nikopol: i get the dreaded xklavier dialog if i change it from default
[04:05] <Nikopol> batoms, aie!
[04:05] <deFrysk> p&p should be disabled
[04:05] <twibbler> deFrysk: I know ... but just following a suggestion from Toma at same time ...
[04:05] <deFrysk> twibbler, oki :)
[04:05] <hutgyyr> i dont seem to have smbmount intstalled on my machine and when I use apt-get to get it, it cant find it. Where can I get it
[04:05] <Toma-> and yes. get rid of plugnplay
[04:05] <Nikopol> batoms, sorry not sure how to work that one :(
[04:06] <Toma-> was windows 95 feature that sucked butt.
[04:06] <twibbler> Thank you will be back in a short while I hope .....
[04:06] <autrata> hutgyyr: Do you have the samba package installed?
[04:06] <patata_fregida> my keyboard doesnt work in console mode, some keys are swaped, how do i change it to spanish (es) keyboard ?
[04:06] <hutgyyr> autrata- yes
[04:06] <salkin> hutgyyr: try smbfs
[04:06] <spirit_gdl> i have a little problem here, updating ubuntu to firefox 1.0.7(german), i managed to update to 1.0.6 with apt install... like some german website said, but how do i get 1.0.7 ?
[04:07] <hutgyyr> i have the samba server runnning aswell
[04:07] <hutgyyr> can I use smbfs to mount a Windows share
[04:08] <Knorrie_> hutgyyr: mount -t smbfs -o ...etc... man smbmount
[04:08] <Knorrie_> hutgyyr: package smbfs contains smbmount, which is used by mount -t smbfs
[04:08] <Hoxzer> Does quicktime have some strange audio codecs?
[04:08] <Hoxzer> cause I can't hear any sounds
[04:09] <hutgyyr> so if im mounting a Windows share thats ntfs i do not specify this in the mount command
[04:09] <ranyzvra1y>  /quit
[04:09] <ranyzvra1y> clear
[04:09] <Knorrie_> hutgyyr: no, not if you're mounting across a network
[04:10] <enyc> hurg: err... no.. you are using 'smbfs' filesystem to access it ;p
[04:10] <enyc> well... thats just at network level.. etc...
[04:10] <enyc> the filesystem driver ebing used by the remote system isn't relevant
[04:11] <hou5ton> On Ubuntuguide.org it explains how to add additional repositories ... if I have Breezy installed ... can I just change "Hoary" to "Breezy" wherever it appears?
[04:11] <Sp4rKy_> hi
[04:11] <deFrysk> hou5ton, stop using ubuntuguide
[04:11] <hutgyyr> ok, now this is the command im specifying. mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/temp storage /mnt/oldserverwork -o username=******,password=****** Its not working though, it justs throws up the different options for the mount command
[04:12] <Sp4rKy_> anyone know where i can find viavoice for linux ?
[04:12] <deFrysk> hou5ton, use the wiki!
[04:12] <Knorrie_> hutgyyr: what's 'storage'?
[04:13] <hutgyyr> thats the name of the folder 'temp storage'
[04:13] <Elko> heh
[04:13] <Knorrie_> hutgyyr: ah, try: temp\ storage
[04:13] <autrata> hutgyr: Throwin in a \ before the blank ;-)
[04:13] <Knorrie_> because of the space mount thinks storage is another argument on the command line
[04:14] <Sp4rKy_> please
[04:14] <hutgyyr> nice one, thanks guys
[04:14] <Sp4rKy_> anyone have viavoice and xvoice
[04:15] <birikki> ciao
[04:15] <hutgyyr> what would be the command to see how many gigs are in each folder in that share
[04:16] <Knorrie_> hutgyyr: du -s *
[04:16] <robbkidd> Hallo, 'Buntuers.
[04:16] <birikki> hi
[04:16] <Knorrie_> robbkidd: goedendag
[04:17] <birikki> anyone fro italy?
[04:17] <birikki> from
[04:17] <deFrysk> !it
[04:17] <ubotu> deFrysk: What?
[04:17] <deFrysk> nope
[04:18] <robbkidd> Knorrie: Gesungheit.
[04:18] <sproingie> anyone remember which package i use with dpkg-reconfigure to turn on the decent font hinting?
[04:18] <robbkidd> s/Gesungheit/Gesundheit/
[04:18] <alisher> sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[04:18] <nalioth> deFrysk: is there an italian language room?
[04:18] <deFrysk> nalioth, I believe not
[04:18] <deFrysk> nalioth, no it to be found
[04:19] <sproingie> alisher: thanks.  hm, everything was at  defaults, tahoma still looks like ass
[04:19] <nalioth> deFrysk: there is
[04:19] <Knorrie_> anyone experiencing the same problems with gphpedit on breezah? (it keeps throwing everything around when i type)
[04:19] <othernoob> nalioth: deFrysk #ubuntu-it
[04:19] <deFrysk> ubotu, does not seem to know
[04:19] <ubotu> deFrysk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:19] <robbkidd> I've been using Debian for a while now and have wished for a way to quickly determine the changes of a package.  Is there a quick way to access changelogs for package updates, particularly before the package is applied?
[04:19] <twibbler> Toma: deFrysk: well made it back but still got no sound ... checked as carefully as poss on boot up and get bleeps when loading amixer ... also setting sensor limits failed ....
[04:20] <sproingie> robbkidd: apt-get install apt-listchanges.  in aptitude, you can hit C to see the changelog
[04:20] <Knorrie_> robbkidd: read the changelogs on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:20] <hou5ton> Now that I have Breezy installed ... will it just seamlessly update into the final release as time goes on?
[04:20] <robbkidd> sproingie: Ooo. Shiny.
[04:20] <robbkidd> Knorrie: Not exactly quick, though.
[04:21] <deFrysk> nalioth, how does one do that ? and I dont speak italian to make a proper entry
[04:21] <Jhair> robbkidd: synaptic has an option to download the changelog...
[04:21] <sproingie> robbkidd: actually i seem to be able to use the C command without even having apt-listchanges
[04:22] <Jhair> sproingie: with apt-listchanges can I check the logfile for a package that hasn't been installed yet? AFAIK no...
[04:22] <deFrysk> afk
[04:22] <sproingie> Jhair: then aptitude's tool is superior, because it can show the changelog of a not-installed package
[04:22] <mad_pheonix> what is the glib package in ubuntu?  I'm trying to use anjuta and it complains about not having glib.  Is it not recognizing it because it's named libglib in ubuntu?
[04:23] <Octane_> is there a way to load an application to desktop0 in kde from the shell?
[04:23] <othernoob> nalioth: are you familiar with dvd burning problems?
[04:23] <Jhair> sproingie: yes, that was I was thinking, synaptic does have that feature too, I don't use apt-listchanges because it lacks of that feature
[04:23] <sproingie> btw, is there documentation how "volatile" kernel modules work?  the fglrx module just sort of magically appears there when i need it, and i have no idea how
[04:24] <hutgyyr> frickin hell, dont tell me you can see status of file copying if moving a folder over the network from the command line
[04:24] <maint> How do I change the different available screen resolutions? (I only selected 640x480 during the ubuntu setup, but now I would like to have more available) ?
[04:25] <hutgyyr> no???
[04:26] <alisher> maint: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <alisher> maint: or   sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:27] <robbkidd> Jhair/sproingie: Bueno.  Exactly what I was looking for.  I've been wanting that for a long time, but never bothered *looking* for it.
[04:27] <robbkidd> So, maybe I should say that I've been "wanting" that for a long time, since I wasn't looking for it.
[04:27] <Fred|Fred> hey... how can i completely remove all mail servers (cyrus, postfix, sendmail) and their config files? i've gone wrong a few times and need to get fresh configs ;)
[04:28] <Fred|Fred> what's the apt-get or dpkg command to remove a package and it's config files?
[04:28] <pinucset> aptitude does it
[04:29] <robbkidd> Fred: sudo apt-get remove --purge [packages ...]
[04:29] <Fred|Fred> thanks :)
[04:30] <mad_pheonix> does anybody know how to install glib for the anjuta c/c++ ide?
[04:31] <g0rd0n> hello!
[04:31] <maint> first command just gives the result "xserver-xorg is not installed", and the second one just opens and empty conf file :(
[04:31] <sproingie> mad_pheonix: my guess is you need glib-devel
[04:31] <g0rd0n> i just installed breezy, and am wondering where the "root terminal" icon has gone from the menu... how can i restore it?
[04:31] <g0rd0n> i hate doing sudo :P
[04:31] <mad_pheonix> sproingie: would that be libglib-devel?  i didn't see any packages just named glib
[04:32] <Fred|Fred> is this a big problem?: exim: failed to find uid for user name "Debian-exim"
[04:32] <Fred|Fred> Can't send mail: sendmail process failed
[04:32] <sproingie> mad_pheonix: whatever.  btw, it's spelled phoenix
[04:32] <alisher> g0rd0n: use smeg to add whatever icons
[04:33] <g0rd0n> nice :) thanks alexandros
[04:33] <g0rd0n> ups alisher
[04:33] <alisher> bin ja alexander
[04:35] <Fred|Fr3d> is this a big problem?: exim: failed to find uid for user name "Debian-exim" and Can't send mail: sendmail process failed
[04:35] <robbkidd> re: .deb changelogs - Synaptic is downloading the latest available changelog, ja?
[04:37] <Axioplase> Hi
[04:37] <robbkidd> Gah. I can't communicate well today. Reworded: Is Synaptic downloading the changelog from the latest available (i.e. highest version number) package?
[04:37] <Knorrie_> Fred|Fr3d: :) you just removed your mailserver and all of it's configuration, and are wondering you can't send mail now? :P
[04:37] <Axioplase> Just wondering... I need Ubuntu-ja, but I have no CD to burn it. Can I install ubuntu (which CD I have) and upgrade it to ubuntu-ja ?
[04:38] <Fred|Fr3d> not really... i have tried sendmail and postfix, and i wasnt able to send or receive mail... now i'm trying exim.
[04:38] <robbkidd> Fred: It is a problem for certain values of big.
[04:38] <maint> sooo, anyone know what I should do? those two commands didnt work :(
[04:38] <ezdellis> What's the procedure here?  I don't want to barge in on you all.
[04:38] <Fred|Fr3d> i just want an smtp and pop3 server that's relatively easy to configure...
[04:39] <g0rd0n> i have a problem with my TV card: it's a Hauppauge WinTV FM (BT 878 chip). I installed tvtime, the channels got tuned and the image is fine, but i get no audio. The sound card line-in is on in the mixer, it's the tv card that outputs no audio. It works in windows xp though. How can i fix this?
[04:39] <hutgyyr> is there a cmd i can issue which will constantly show me the file size updating of a directory im copying over the network
[04:39] <robbkidd> Fred: I'm quite fond of exim, but I weened onto Debian and acquired the taste.  You might try confirming that exim is installed correctly (sudo apt-get install --reinstall exim4) and rerunning the configuration (sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4)
[04:39] <Knorrie_> hutgyyr: `watch  ls -l`
[04:39] <anethema> damn, firefox just got upgraded..that was so fast
[04:39] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: i only just installed it 2 mins ago :\
[04:39] <anethema> firefox used to be way behind
[04:39] <g0rd0n> here the relevant devices:
[04:39] <g0rd0n> 0000:01:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[04:39] <g0rd0n> 0000:01:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[04:40] <ezdellis> Speaking of firefox
[04:40] <Fred|Fr3d> it was during the install i got that error
[04:40] <ezdellis> the upgrade broke my install
[04:40] <ezdellis> Can I save my bookmarks?
[04:40] <robbkidd> Fred: At this point, it couldn't hurt to refresh it.
[04:41] <Xappe> g0rd0n: hmm, strange. my card just works
[04:41] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: i've reinstalled and reconfigured...
[04:41] <Xappe> WinTV pci
[04:41] <robbkidd> exdellis: cp ./mozilla/firefox/<profiledir>/bookmark.html <path-to-backup>
[04:41] <Fred|Fr3d> i should be able to telnet to localhost on 110 right?
[04:41] <g0rd0n> Xappe: same chip?
[04:42] <Xappe> g0rd0n: yes
[04:42] <robbkidd> Fred: Ah. No. Exim only provides SMTP (port 25).
[04:42] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd oh. well when i telnet to that i see "Sendmail" in the lines i get
[04:42] <Hoxzer> when I setup mplayer to full screen the actual video size doesn't increase how could I fix this problem?
[04:42] <g0rd0n> Xappe: does the audio come through the audio card line-in in your case?
[04:42] <ezdellis> I got a syntax error
[04:43] <ezdellis> I'm kinda afraid of the cmdline
[04:43] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: what pop3 server would you recommend?
[04:43] <ezdellis> hold on
[04:43] <Xappe> g0rd0n: yes it does...have you checked so the volumes are ok in the mixer/tvtime?
[04:43] <robbkidd> Fred: I've been using the courier suite of mail servers, though my install is obscenely simple.
[04:43] <g0rd0n> Xappe: tvtime is at 100%, the mixer is ok (if i attach my mp3 player to the line in i hear the sound)
[04:43] <robbkidd> Fred: Lemme check if Ubuntu has any recommendation (and therefore some docs).
[04:44] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: well i dont really care what i use as long as i can send and receive mail... thanks tho :)
[04:44] <ezdellis> There doesn't appear to be a profile directory in my ./mozilla/firefox
[04:44] <Xappe> g0rd0n: strange
[04:45] <ezdellis> I assume you mean the one in my home folder
[04:45] <robbkidd> Fred: There's a recommendation in the forums for running Hula, which seems to be an exciting web mail and calendar project.
[04:45] <Knorrie_> Fred|Fr3d: can you read dutch?
[04:45] <Fred|Fr3d> no :(
[04:45] <robbkidd> Fred: (Also supports POP)
[04:45] <twibbler> ok Im still going round the bend with this sound card,,, No sound ...  recompiled alsa ..... set modprobe ..... still get No such file or directory on amixer setup .. anybody any ideas ....
[04:45] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: well i have a webmail setup (horde/imp), but no server to connect to
[04:45] <robbkidd> ezdellis: Make sure you've got the dot correct: ~/.mozilla/firefox
[04:46] <Knorrie_> Fred|Fr3d: bummer, I didn't translate my own postfix docs yet :0
[04:46] <Shadowpillar> were ubuntu's security update servers compromised?
[04:46] <twibbler> could it be a pci conflict .... ?...
[04:46] <deFrysk> twibbler, buy a cheap soundcard is my advice
[04:46] <alisher> maint: is xserver-xorg really not installed w you?
[04:46] <pitti> Shadowpillar: no, why?
[04:46] <robbkidd> Fred: Give courier-pop a whirl.  I thought it was fairly simple to set up for localhost process intercommunication.
[04:46] <g0rd0n> wtf
[04:46] <Shadowpillar> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[04:46] <Shadowpillar> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[04:46] <Fred|Fr3d> ok cool... how?
[04:46] <ezdellis> Yeah, in the hidden mozilla directory in my home folder, there isn't a profile directory
[04:46] <g0rd0n> im going to buy a new tv card
[04:46] <g0rd0n> this is making me sick
[04:47] <twibbler> deFrysk: sounds good but I then need three .... (arrrgggghhh im not feeling sensible )....
[04:47] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: how/where is courier-pop?
[04:47] <robbkidd> exdellis: It'll be named something wonky like kxd87hgs.default
[04:47] <ezdellis> Oh
[04:47] <robbkidd> Fred: sudo apt-get install courier-pop
[04:47] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks
[04:47] <twibbler> deFrysk: maybe time to do a full upgrade to breezy .... (just to check) ... but how ?.
[04:48] <Shadowpillar> pitti: can you explain?
[04:48] <deFrysk> twibbler, upgradenotes... see /topic
[04:48] <ezdellis> thanks, robbkidd
[04:48] <pitti> Shadowpillar: you might have hit a bad time, when the packages were updated
[04:48] <pitti> Shadowpillar: I just released a huge mozilla update
[04:48] <hutgyyr> Knorrie: That command isn't actually showing the folder size though
[04:48] <vinboy> how do I save my gnome configuration files
[04:48] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: well i can connect to 110 now :) but i cant send a mail :S
[04:48] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.14-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 23 03:17:41 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <-- behold my glory!
[04:48] <pitti> Shadowpillar: try to update the package index again
[04:48] <vinboy> so tat i can restore it when i do a fresh install next time
[04:48] <anethema> ok the firefox thing isnt wokring for me at all in apt! wtf is going on....http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2462
[04:48] <Shadowpillar> pitti: that's what I was updating for, because of that new exploit
[04:49] <anethema> can anyone  look at that and tell me why i cant install newer firefox
[04:49] <Shadowpillar> pitti: think there will ever be an updated zsnes in the future?
[04:50] <deFrysk> anethema, you can if you wish
[04:50] <pitti> Shadowpillar: we don't have that package
[04:50] <Shadowpillar> can it be added?
[04:51] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: `du -s .` shows the total size of the folder you're in and all that's below
[04:51] <anethema> zsnes is in my list
[04:51] <anethema> not sure which repository
[04:51] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: i can connect using pop3 fine, so thanks. but i cant even connect to 25 from my other pc or telnet to it, but i can telnet to it on the pc it's running on :S
[04:51] <Shadowpillar> universe I think
[04:51] <deFrysk> anethema, dowload the installer and install it locally or in /local or something
[04:51] <anethema> ah, multiverse
[04:51] <hutgyyr> Knorrie: Yes, its just i would like to be able to see a constant update of file size
[04:52] <twibbler> deFrysk: thank you ... doing it know .... I see what its like .... hehehehehe
[04:52] <anethema> i'd rather not use the installer, want apt to keep it updated.
[04:52] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: what's wrong with `watch`
[04:52] <Gobbla> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68322 seriosly someone must know?
[04:52] <marc_> gn&st!
[04:52] <Elko> anethema: wild guess, disk full?
[04:52] <slackman> hallo @ aoll
[04:52] <deFrysk> twibbler, good luck should work fine and check in dayly here to see if its safe to run the current updates
[04:53] <anethema> no :)
[04:53] <thesaltydog> how can I have back my boot screen after latest kernel update (-9)? The screen is completely black during boot sequence...
[04:53] <hutgyyr> its not showing the file size. drwxr-xr-x 31 user user 4096 2005-09-23 15:52 ARCHIVE_TEMP
[04:53] <anethema> im gonna just remove it all then reinstall from apt.
[04:53] <slackman> can anyone tell me how i can log in ubuntu as super user ?? ??
[04:53] <Sam3773> No screens found makes sam emo.
[04:53] <thesaltydog> slackman, from the console
[04:53] <deFrysk> !tell slackman about sudo
[04:54] <twibbler> deFrysk: will do but not long before it is official ... just a shame I have to download in office and not at home ..... (2.2mg at home)...
[04:54] <slackman> Ok thanks
[04:54] <robbkidd> Fred: Ah. Something's telling exim to bind only to the loopback address. Lemme dig for a fix.
[04:54] <deFrysk> twibbler, Isee
[04:54] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks robbkidd
[04:54] <thesaltydog> is anyone using vga=791 in kopt grub line?
[04:54] <slackman> bye bye
[04:55] <selinium> HI guys, I can gat the udma settings for my hd using hdparm -i /dev/hda. Is this they values available? IE what both the drive and controller can handle, or just the drive?
[04:55] <Sam3773> Anyone have any clue about 'No screens found' on an Nvidia 5200 running Hoary.
[04:55] <deFrysk> thesaltydog, I believe its the default setting in ubuntu
[04:55] <hutgyyr> when im copying files over the network has the network card got a buffer or how does it work
[04:55] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: drwxr-xr-x is a directory, not a file
[04:56] <hutgyyr> Knorrie: yes, sorry I actually meant updating the directory size
[04:56] <thesaltydog> deFrysk, no, if you set that line you do not have uspalsh. Anyway, now it is not working anymore..
[04:57] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: `watch du -s ARCHIVE_TEMP`
[04:57] <deFrysk> thesaltydog, there is another way to get your splash back but not with vga=blah
[04:57] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: but that's rather `expensive`
[04:57] <deFrysk> thesaltydog, not sure how to do that tho
[04:58] <hutgyyr> Knorrie: In what sense?
[04:58] <thesaltydog> deFrysk, I do not want usplash, I want my booting sequence in small fonts. With latest kernel I have a black screen...
[04:58] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: it counts the size of all files in the directory every n seconds
[04:58] <trask> ubuntu got its own kernel right?
[04:58] <deFrysk> thesaltydog, I see
[04:58] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: so that's lot of extra disk access, which you dont want while copying
[04:58] <deFrysk> afk
[04:59] <othernoob> mmh, why does mkdir /image/user/ not work?
[04:59] <trask> rephrase: ubuntu isnt running the official linux kernel but a modified one right?
[04:59] <hutgyyr> mmmm, in GUI mode does the progess status do the same thing as watch du -s
[04:59] <HiddenFly> when i boot, linux isnt able to mount sata drives automatically, and it tells me its broken or something. it works tho, when i do manually mount them later. how can i fix this?
[04:59] <Knorrie> hutgyyr: i guess not
[04:59] <Gobbla> what error do you get othernoob?
[05:00] <othernoob> Gobbla: that it can't create it..
[05:00] <Knorrie> othernoob: when /image doesn't exist already: `mkdir -p /image/user`
[05:00] <Knorrie> othernoob: -p creates dirs and subdirs at once
[05:01] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: any luck?
[05:01] <othernoob> Knorrie: thanks, thought it would create the subdirs without further commands ..
[05:02] <Knorrie> othernoob: np
[05:03] <chorton> Anyone able to help me with getting a make to run?
[05:04] <Elko> probably, but they're not going to guess for the problem..
[05:05] <iqoAHS-> hi. i have 2hdd now. i want to install a fresh copy of ubuntu on my 2nd hdd, do i use expert mode or default mode? if i use default mode, do i get to select which hdd for ubuntu to install on? thanks..
[05:06] <kemik> iqoAHS-:  default should be fine yes
[05:06] <iqoAHS-> kemik, going into default, then can i choose which hdd to install on?
[05:06] <sproingie> iqoAHS-: yes, the regular installer will let you select hd's.  if you have experience with the basic installer, you should give the expert one a whirl and see which you prefer
[05:07] <robbkidd> Fred: Best I've found is this tutorial - http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[05:07] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks robbkidd, i'll check it out
[05:07] <iqoAHS-> sproningie, me too
[05:07] <sproingie> being debian, i don't get exposed to the installer all that often
[05:07] <iqoAHS-> i was using the expert one just now. but got stuck
[05:07] <Xappe> interesting: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1860715,00.asp
[05:08] <iqoAHS-> after selecting a hdd to install on, does the installer partion the hdd itself?
[05:08] <hutgyyr> if I had two servers and I wanted to transfer between them through a third party, say another linux box. What work will the third party have to do? Will it buffer it, write to disk before transferring
[05:10] <anethema> hey im trying to upgrade skype...it is saying:   Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[05:10] <anethema> isnt the ver i have larger?
[05:10] <sambagirl> whlie i am exploring things, i discover all these sleeping processes, using my monitor thingy, so, they using up tremendously alot memory, do i need them? they are asleep. can i delete them?
[05:10] <Fred|Fr3d> robbkidd: it says before i install them that i have to remove exim4... what pop3 server does this howto use then?
[05:11] <Fred|Fr3d> smtp*
[05:12] <othernoob> sambagirl: monitor thingy?
[05:13] <Knorrie> Fred|Fr3d: smtp and pop are really different things
[05:13] <Fred|Fr3d> Knorrie: i know
[05:13] <sambagirl> yes
[05:14] <anethema> anyone know whats goin on with my skype? hehe
[05:14] <sambagirl> othernoob yes
[05:14] <sambagirl> does skype work with this ubuntu?
[05:14] <othernoob> sambagirl: i was actually just wondering what a "monitor thingy" is
[05:14] <anethema> sure
[05:14] <sambagirl> ahh
[05:14] <anethema> just add the skype repository to your sources.list and apt-get it
[05:14] <sambagirl> othernoob
[05:14] <sambagirl> ?
[05:15] <twibbler> anethema: is your skype not working ?
[05:15] <sambagirl> system moniitor
[05:15] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[05:15] <anethema> skype is working twibbler
[05:15] <[Wiebel] > I still can't get firefox to talk to esd
[05:15] <aeoe> anyone else having problems upgrading firefox to 1.0.7?
[05:15] <anethema> i just want to upgrade the version, and the message it is giving me is.. Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[05:15] <othernoob> ah..
[05:15] <anethema> aeoe, i did :( wouldnt do it because of some other package
[05:15] <anethema> bah
[05:16] <sambagirl> ihave 2002 ppc it wont use bah
[05:16] <twibbler> anethema: hum .... nice to hear its working .. so you sorted out the esd problem then ...
[05:16] <anethema> so i removed and reinstalled
[05:16] <aeoe> anethema: did it work?
[05:16] <anethema> esd? no
[05:16] <othernoob> aeoe: firefox sucks :p get Opera ;)
[05:16] <anethema> im making it just use dsp
[05:16] <aeoe> othernoob: I am using Opera :P
[05:16] <anethema> aeoe,  yeah worked
[05:16] <othernoob> aeoe: :)
[05:16] <sambagirl> i know does ppc / pda work with ubuntu? i think i ask this before. is there offtopic channel for ubuntu?
[05:16] <anethema> i disabled esd.
[05:16] <anethema> use alsa/dmix for everything that i can
[05:16] <othernoob> sambagirl: #ubuntu-offtopic  ;)
[05:16] <twibbler> anethema: yep had to do all that on laptop ....
[05:17] <sambagirl> thanks othernnob
[05:17] <anethema> but i dont know why its giving me this message...the version ive got is higher than what it wants.
[05:17] <Echelon-H> is there any reason why can't i unrar some file?
[05:17] <shoshe> hi Everyone
[05:18] <nailbiter> Echelon-H: If you're using the open source version of 'rar', you won't be able to extract newer archives
[05:19] <shoshe> can anyone help me with the "Sudoers" file ... i kinda made a big mistake !
[05:19] <nailbiter> sambagirl: I've been using Ubuntu Hoary on a Mac Mini and a Dual G5 without any problems
[05:19] <sproingie> shoshe: that's why you should use visudo, it syntax checks before committing if you made a mistake
[05:19] <humulus> tell us your problem
[05:19] <nailbiter> shoshe: You locked yourself out of your system? :)
[05:20] <nailbiter> How does the Hoary X autoconfiguration scheme work?  Where are the scripts actually kept?  I'd like to use them for a diskless terminal setup
[05:20] <shoshe> well actually i only have one user in the system ... and i edited the sudoers file for nopasswd thing but made a mistake in the syntex
[05:20] <shoshe> now it says that u are not part of the sudoers and hence i cannot use the command Sudo
[05:20] <Jowi> hi all. how do i resolve the firefox-gnome-support upgrade errors?
[05:20] <shoshe> so cant install update anything :S
[05:21] <anethema> should look like this %admin  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:21] <sproingie> shoshe: reboot into single-user mode.  tho i suppose if you didn't set a root password, you might not be able to do that
[05:21] <mon> shoshe: you do have at least another user don't you?
[05:21] <Elko> shoshe: init=/bin/bash
[05:21] <shoshe> i did this "system_username	ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
[05:21] <sproingie> shoshe: worst case, you could avail yourself of one of the many fine rescue disks and edit sudoers from that
[05:22] <shoshe> mon:  aaa nops :D !! thats the prob
[05:22] <anethema> whats the prob ?
[05:22] <shoshe> spronigie :  dont have a floppy disk ... lolz
[05:22] <Jowi> apg-get upgrade with firefox get broken pipes, error code (1)
[05:22] <inc_> sup chaneel
[05:22] <mon> shoshe: well like everyone says then: boot in single user mode (init=/bin/bash) or use the ubuntu livecd for example
[05:22] <daan> Hey all. I just installed Ubuntu and now i'm wondering where i can find the settings for the video card.
[05:23] <aeoe> Jowi: I have the same problem :(
[05:23] <anethema> just
[05:23] <anethema> search for firefox
[05:23] <mon> daan: you probably mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf (dont forget to make a backup)
[05:23] <anethema> remove all those
[05:23] <shoshe> mon: u mean to say to use live cd to boot and then mount the drive and then edit the file ?
[05:23] <anethema> BUT first back your .mozilla dir up
[05:23] <mon> shoshe: jup
[05:23] <Jowi> aeoe: ah
[05:23] <nailbiter> daan: Or did you want to change your screen resolution on-the-fly?
[05:23] <aeoe> anethema: When I try to remove it, it says it wants to remove "ubuntu-desktop" too
[05:23] <Elko> shoshe: the init=/bin/bash options takes less time
[05:23] <anethema> what? doh
[05:23] <shoshe> mon : humm ... sounds good ... atleast i wont have to do a reinstall
[05:23] <Jowi> anethema: so apt-get removing the packages first will solve it?
[05:24] <Jowi> aeoe: ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove
[05:24] <anethema> i used synaptic so it removed em all
[05:24] <mon> shoshe: you really got to f**k a system up before it needs a reinstall :)
[05:24] <shoshe> Elko :  how do i perform that ?  can u please explain a bit
[05:24] <aeoe> Jowi: er, are you sure?
[05:24] <Jowi> aeoe: yes.
[05:24] <Elko> shoshe: in the grub menu, edit the line and add the init= part
[05:24] <Jowi> aeoe: ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package
[05:24] <mon> Jowi: i think he means that ubuntu-desktop takes pretty much everything with it (metapackage)
[05:24] <daan> ok. thanks to everyone that helped ;)
[05:24] <shoshe> mon :  lolz .. since im not a good linux user so its kinda f**kup situation for me ;)
[05:25] <Jowi> mon: it shouldn't. i removed ubuntu-desktop without removing everything :)
[05:25] <giles> good day
[05:25] <Jowi> hi giles
[05:25] <xagoln> yes you can remove ubuntu-desktop without problems
[05:25] <mon> Jowi: i did it too sometime, don't know how anymore though.. :)
[05:25] <giles> hey Jowi
[05:25] <Elko> shoshe: you'll get into a single user root shell, then you can visudo again
[05:25] <Knorrie> JanPieter: wazaaaaa
[05:25] <Jowi> mon, aeoe: hang on. i will try it out
[05:25] <sambagirl> who is using spyre here/
[05:25] <giles> anyone able to get xmradio to work ?
[05:25] <JanPieter> Knorrie: whazaa
[05:26] <sambagirl> skype i mean
[05:26] <giles> sambagirl, i am using skype
[05:26] <giles> whats up
[05:26] <shoshe> Elko :  u mean to boot again and in the grub boot time menu edit/add init=part and then boot and then ill get the root shell
[05:26] <sambagirl> can you do private mseeage help me to understand to open thing?
[05:26] <Elko> shoshe: init=/bin/bash
[05:27] <shoshe> Elko : sound good !   lemme try that now and lets c what happens :D
[05:27] <Elko> gl
[05:28] <shoshe> THANKS for the help  guyz ! :)
[05:28] <sambagirl> .deb is right downloads for things, no?
[05:28] <Leshrac> can someone please tell me where is the default location of Xorg.0.log?
[05:28] <xagoln> /var/log
[05:28] <Leshrac> thanks
[05:29] <aeoe> Jowi: I fixed it by completely removing firefox (which removed the dummy package and yelp), but it's 1.0.7 now.
[05:29] <xagoln> can anyone help me?  I've just installed Breezy from Preview CD (I'm a Hoary user but this is a new PC).  It freezes when trying to start X and the Xorg.0.log contains next to nothing
[05:29] <giles> sambagirl, yes
[05:29] <mon> sambagirl: generally yeah. if it's not available via apt
[05:30] <mon> xagoln: hm maybe change videodriver to vesa? anything in dmesg?
[05:30] <xagoln> I tried an apt-get upgdate && apt-get upgrade but it craps out on a particular pkg
[05:30] <g0rd0n> hi! i'm trying to mount an ntfs partition, but only root can read it at this time... but i would like me (as normal user) to be able to read that partition... heres my entry in /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1	/mnt/winxp	ntfs	user,ro		0	0 what am i doing wrong?
[05:30] <aeoe> Jowi: Ahh, those reinstalled perfectly as well.
[05:30] <Jowi> aeoe: on my way to do the same. downloading the packages now, after the removal was made
[05:30] <xagoln> mon yeah haven't tried that - is it as simple as changing the driver name in xorg.cfg to vesa?
[05:30] <mon> xagoln: jup :)
[05:31] <gerarcone> a simple question: in wich repositories a can find w32codecs? i'm running BREEZY
[05:31] <mon> gerarcone: marilat, use the ubuntu wiki
[05:31] <xagoln> mon thanks mate.  I am in recovery mode right now, running screen so I can use irssi, apt-get and lynx all at the same time
[05:31] <giles> sambagirl, download the .deb file and do a dpkg -i skyppackage
[05:32] <giles> sambagirl, dont forget you will need GTK as well
[05:32] <Jowi> aeoe, anethema: yep, worked fine.
[05:32] <oubs> hi
[05:33] <aeoe> Jowi: awesome
[05:33] <Jowi> gerarcone: i think those were removed for legal reasons... should be somehwere though..
[05:33] <Jowi> !w32codecs
[05:33] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[05:34] <alnr> i run ntpdate which sets my clock correctly but later, (like overnight) it reverts to -6 hours. i dont see anything in cron daily. ??
[05:34] <Jowi> gerarcone: check out the links that ubotu just provided
[05:34] <gerarcone> Jowi, :/
[05:34] <gerarcone> Jowi, What links?
[05:34] <Jowi> ubotu, tell gerarcone about w32codecs
[05:35] <mon> alnr: you don't use vmware?
[05:35] <Jowi> gerarcone: got it?
[05:35] <gerarcone> Jowi, ok
[05:35] <alnr> mon: you probalby nailed it, it is a vmware guest , but i thought that just produced small errors
[05:35] <mon> alnr: friend of mine had exactly the same problem :) something with vmware...
[05:35] <farid> Hi everyone. Im using the ubuntu live CD as we speak and I was wondering how I can access my local drive.
[05:36] <mon> alnr: there is an option to sync host and guest time in vmware though. you checked that?
[05:36] <alnr> no, thanks, i'll research that
[05:37] <Jowi> farid: depends. if you type in a terminal "sudo fdisk -l" to see if you recognise it
[05:37] <Jemt> Greetings. I have just installed Fluxbox on my Ubuntu 5.04. When I try to launch a program from a console, I get this error : Error opening display. I think it is because I'm trying to run the program from a terminal. But I c't seem to find a Run prompt in Fluxbox as I can in Gnome using ALT+F2
[05:37] <othernoob> mmh, how long does mkisofs take for a 4gb iso?
[05:37] <mon> othernoob: same time it takes to write 4gb... depends on your config
[05:38] <mon> Jowi: i hear this often. shouldn't hoary automount other partitions?
[05:38] <Jowi> mon: yeah, but farid is running the live-cd
[05:38] <farid> Jowi, it finds the disk. but I can't find the files that are on it.
[05:38] <othernoob> mon: i meant creating it..
[05:39] <mon> othernoob: i mean that too :)
[05:39] <Jowi> farid: so which /dev/ is it located at and what is it formatted as?
[05:39] <gerarcone> Jowi, i can't download the packages from there
[05:39] <farid> /dev/hda1
[05:39] <othernoob> mon: mmh, it takes a bit long i fink :/
[05:39] <gerarcone> Jowi, it seems i should register
[05:39] <mon> alnr: you have to boot the guest OS. then start "vmware-tools" iirc. it's kinda difficult to find
[05:39] <farid> Should I be looking in /dev/hda1 ?
[05:39] <mon> othernoob: you can check the filesize right? probably in /tmp or something
[05:39] <mon> farid: that's probably it if you first installed windows and then ubuntu
[05:40] <farid> mon, I'm using the live-cd.
[05:40] <mon> farid: you're not familiar with mounting?
[05:40] <Jowi> farid, yes. so in a terminal, type "sudo mount -t vfat (for fat32) /dev/hda1 /mount/windows (if you have created that disk)
[05:40] <Elko> s/disk/directory/
[05:40] <cb> hi, does anyone know how to activate sleep on a laptop manually (the button on the laptop isn't working) IIRC it's something like echo 1 > /sys/power/state
[05:40] <mon> disk=direttory
[05:40] <mon> :)
[05:40] <Elko> heh
[05:41] <Jowi> Elko: yeah, typos. crap. Cheers :)
[05:41] <farid> Jowi, what should I type for NTFS?
[05:41] <mon> farid: -t ntfs
[05:41] <Elko> big typo.. :)
[05:41] <Jowi> mount -t ntfs
[05:41] <alnr> mon: thanks
[05:41] <goo_> cb: cat /sys/power/state
[05:41] <farid> aight. thanks guys. let me try that :)
[05:41] <goo_> cb: use one of those :)
[05:41] <Jowi> farid: make a win directory first. sudo mkdir /media/windows
[05:42] <cb> goo_: cheers
[05:42] <Jowi> farid then: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[05:42] <cyphase> anyone else with backports anabled having problems upgrading firefox?
[05:42] <cyphase> enabled*
[05:42] <cb> goo_: heh, now to see if it actually works ;)
[05:43] <Frafra> hi all
[05:43] <goo_> cb: good luck :) Hope you have a new and proper ACPI BIOS :)
[05:43] <Frafra> i'm trying to install hoary for g4
[05:43] <Jowi> cyphase: yes. we just solved it. completely remove old firefox first, then install it again.
[05:43] <leopard> xfonts upgrading problem in breezy, but no recent problems with mozilla
[05:43] <cyphase> yea
[05:43] <cyphase> i know
[05:43] <cyphase> lol
[05:43] <Jowi> haha, ok
[05:43] <Frafra> when i try to set the user it return to the last passage
[05:43] <Frafra> why?
[05:44] <enyc> fraf: what do you mean ''last passage'' ?
[05:44] <cb> goo_: yeah, it's a dell m70.. according to hardware support on the ubuntu wiki suspend to ram should work but not to disk
[05:44] <farid> Jowi, thanks for your help. :) Folder created and drive mounted. But it doesn't let me access it due to permissions. What should I do next?
[05:44] <ColonelKernel> if im just using a basic standard partitioning setup (/boot,/,swap) I dont need LVM or EVMS enabled, do I?
[05:44] <Jowi> Frafra: more info please
[05:44] <Jowi> farid: sudo su <type password> should let you access it.
[05:44] <Frafra> Jowi: mm... it doesn't give me any error
[05:44] <goo_> cb: ok. My wifes Dell Inspiron 6000 actually suspends very well to disk as well
[05:45] <xagoln> are the Breezy repos broken today? more specifically the pkgs?  I am trying to 'apt-get upgrade' and getting an error processing x-common_1.08_all.deb
[05:45] <Jowi> farid: next step is to create a mountpoint for it in /etc/fstab so it mounts automatically when you boot. hang on
[05:45] <farid> Jowi, what password? An optional password?
[05:45] <goo_> cb: my own IBM t40p does barely even survive suspend to RAM with ACPI :)  It likes APM much better :)
[05:45] <Jowi> farid: your own password
[05:45] <xagoln> "trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' which is also in package xfonts-base
[05:45] <Jowi> ubotu, tell farid about windowsdrives
[05:46] <Frafra> who could help me?
[05:46] <cb> goo_: have you ever tried the hibernate package (+ kernel patches)?
[05:46] <farid> Jowi, but it says "unknown id" when I type 'sudo su farid'
[05:46] <Frafra> :(
[05:46] <goo_> cb: hm, no. I have just been using APM, and since it Just Worked [tm]  I just stuck with that
[05:46] <cb> goo_: fair enough
[05:46] <Jowi> farid: just type "sudo su" <enter> then type in your password.
[05:47] <farid> oohh
[05:47] <Jowi> farid: that will at least let you browse /media/windows and do what you want as a temporary solution.
[05:48] <keikoz> why sudo su ? just su is enough