[12:13] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having apt problems?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> i just am wanting to get these rtcw:ET maps :)
[12:14] <Dr_willis> psychiccyberfrea,  not really
[12:14] <Mez> bug 68634
[12:14] <psychiccyberfrea> cuz when I update my lists, it says 'hit' instead of 'get
[12:14] <psychiccyberfrea> I'm using dapper
[12:14] <argonel> means up to date afaik
[12:15] <Dr_willis> psychiccyberfrea,  using edgy and i get the same 'hit' :)
[12:15] <dako> does anyone know how to configure acpi-support?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> argonel,  makes sence to me
[12:15] <argonel> you'll probaby also see it downloaded 18 bytes or something like that
[12:16] <psychiccyberfrea> no, just 5
[12:16] <psychiccyberfrea> 5 bytes
[12:16] <argonel> heh
[12:16] <argonel> long, slow download :p
[12:21] <matto> aa
[12:21] <psychiccyberfrea> is dist-upgrade not working either?
[12:21] <matto> avalon bel nome
[12:21] <matto> lo giocato alle corse
[12:21] <matto> dei cavalli
[12:22] <avalon> Is it just me, or are the repositories for edgy really slow?
[12:23] <shadowhywind> HELP!!! i tried installing nvidia drivers, after installing if i do startx it works. But if i restart, it comes up with no screens found
[12:24] <shadowhywind> any ideas
[12:24] <avalon> No clue? I used the Automatix for Edgy and it worked fine.
[12:25] <shadowhywind> well here is another question
[12:25] <shadowhywind> i think i know the answer, what would happen if i removed the package linux-386
[12:25] <psychiccyberfrea> shadowhywind:  try to go to a terminal and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:26] <psychiccyberfrea> or xorg-xserver
[12:26] <psychiccyberfrea> or something like that
[12:26] <shadowhywind> will that overwrite the nvidia drivers?
[12:26] <psychiccyberfrea> no, but it will let you reconfigure xserver so you can go back to using the NV driver
[12:28] <jhutchins_wk>  There was recently an update of the w32codecs package on PLF, but no change in the mplayer files.  Any idea what it might have been?
[12:28] <jhutchins_wk> avalon: It's not just you - it's everybody who'd upgrading to edgy.
[12:29] <avalon> Ok jhutchins_wk, just wanted to be sure my 5mb connection wasn't screwed up
[12:30] <shadowhywind> restarting, wish me luck
[12:33] <DaSkreech> !senn Dshepherd
[12:33] <DaSkreech> !seen Dshepherd
[12:33] <ubotu> I last saw DShepherd<EMAIL_ADDRESS>16m 27s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[12:39] <jarn> Is there some reason Alt steals focus?
[12:39] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> there is no one
[12:48] <CVirus> !upgrade
[12:48] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:48] <psychiccyberfrea> anyone having apt problems?
[12:49] <MeTa> no
[12:49] <MeTa> :)
[12:50] <CVirus> !aiglx
[12:50] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[12:52] <argonel> jarn: "alt steals focus"?
[12:54] <Acidic32> yo
[12:54] <Acidic32> Qt: 3.3.6
[12:54] <Acidic32> KDE: 3.5.5
[12:54] <Acidic32> kde-config: 1.0
[12:54] <Acidic32> o_0
[12:54] <Acidic32> how comes kde-config never changes? :P
[12:55] <Acidic32> no matter what kde ur running lol
[12:58] <jarn> argonel: Yes.
[12:59] <jarn> argonel: In a game, whenever I hold alt, clicking anything in the game doesn't work. And it's not the game, alt is supposed to do something. However, ctrl+alt works fine, so I think the alt key has something binded to it... but I don't know what.
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> jarn: What sort of a game ? is it running in xterm ?
[01:08] <argonel> jarn: often pressing ALT alone selects the menu bar
[01:10] <h3sp4wn> argonel: would you know how to map alt-arrow key to meta+arrow (using the escape sequences) in xterm ? (I know its to do with the vt102 options that need to be overridden in .Xdefaults)
[01:11] <Subnormal> hi
[01:13] <Subnormal> i have a problem that i think that may to be a bug... Since i updated to edgy when i close a search tab in amule, amule is closed, somebody can check that in his amule under edgy please? i want to be sure that is a bug before submit it
[01:15] <jarn> h3sp4wn: It is running in Wine.
[01:15] <jarn> argonel: Can I turn that off?
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> jarn: try #winehq (maybe they know about it)
[01:16] <jarn> h3sp4wn: I don't think it's a problem with Wine.
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> jarn: does it work right if its run from raw xinit
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> jarn: (could be kde steals it)
[01:17] <jbwarnken> hi all from Florida
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> hi
[01:18] <jarn> h3sp4wn: What is xinit?
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> jarn: it will start just x and a single terminal (if kdm is stopped)
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> jarn: (that will allow you to see whether it is the window manager that is doing it or not)
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> jarn: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop (then run xinit from the text console) if it works then you know its kde
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> jarn: If it doesn't its either X or wine
[01:21] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay.
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> jarn: at the moment it could be either X kde or wine (easier by elimination - at least for me)
[01:22] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Yeah, I don't think it's wine. It could be, but I don't think so.
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> jarn: knowing whether its kde or X would help though (as the methods for troubleshooting it are completely different)
[01:23] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay, I'll stop kdm now.
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> jarn: you know how to start it again (I take it)
[01:24] <xelnaga> hola?
[01:24] <xelnaga> alguien espaol??
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> !es
[01:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:24] <xelnaga> gracias
[01:25] <luxus> !de
[01:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:27] <Subnormal> i have a problem that i think that may to be a bug... Since i updated to edgy when i close a search tab in amule, amule is closed, somebody can check that in his amule under edgy please? i want to be sure that is a bug before submit it
[01:29] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay, it didn't happen that way.
[01:29] <jarn> It worked fine. So does that mean that it is something in KDE?
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> jarn: yes
[01:29] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Any ideas?
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> jarn: are you using beryl or compiz ?
[01:30] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Uhh... whatever the default is.
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> jarn: You are not using (wobbly windows or anything)
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> jarn: I presume you are not if you don't know
[01:33] <jarn> h3sp4wn: I do not have any windows that wobble.
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> jarn: So its just standard kubuntu
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> jarn: run kcontrol
[01:34] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Okay.
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> jarn: Try regions and accesibilty - check if there is anything in xkb options
[01:35] <jarn> h3sp4wn: What is xkb?
[01:35] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Oh, found it.
[01:35] <jarn> h3sp4wn: It's all disabled.
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> jarn: what about keyboard shortcuts (the 1 underneath)
[01:37] <jarn> h3sp4wn: A lot are set, but it appears as if none are for the alt key alone.
[01:38] <MetaMorfoziS> what program can play dvdmenus?
[01:39] <wildchild> is there a way to upgrade to lates version of kununtu; or I have to install iso flie?
[01:39] <Hawkwind> !upgrade | wildchild
[01:39] <ubotu> wildchild: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> jarn: I have a similar problem with alt behaving not as I want (not in kde in xterm) There is a way to map the keys but I haven't worked it out yet
[01:46] <osiris> is anyone else having issues with the PLF dapper mirrors ?
[01:47] <loz> hi
[01:48] <loz> anybody alive at this time?
[01:48] <loz> we only come out at night
[01:48] <loz> cause the days are much to bright
[01:48] <Subnormal> where can i submit kubuntu bugs?
[01:49] <loz> ANYBODY know much about wifi on kubuntu?
[01:50] <unix_infidel> loz: no, i know about wifi on linux, sorry.
[01:50] <unix_infidel> ask a pertinent question.
[01:50] <loz> wel its the same?
[01:50] <unix_infidel> loz: like i said, you are more than welcome to ask a pertinent question here mate.
[01:50] <loz> get  a pertinent answer
[01:51] <unix_infidel> :)
[01:51] <loz> ok
[01:51] <loz> lets talk about something else
[01:51] <loz> i don t care
[01:51] <loz> it s late anyway
[01:51] <loz> lets talk aobut xgl
[01:52] <loz> and how it makes useless window users green
[01:52] <loz> hi hi
[01:52] <loz> or something
[01:52] <osiris> what the heck are YOU on ?
[01:52] <loz> Toshiba
[01:52] <loz> hi hi
[01:52] <unix_infidel> loz: maybe you were looking for aol chat?
[01:52] <loz> kubuntu edgy to be exacct
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> loz: What do you need to know ?
[01:52] <fede> are there going to be free ubuntu 6.10  cds?
[01:53] <unix_infidel> fede: nope, not through shipit anyway.
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> fede: no only lts will be sent through shipit
[01:53] <loz> how to get my wireless to work
[01:53] <osiris> fede, depends on how cheap your friend with the cable modem is
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> !doesn't work
[01:53] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:53] <loz> and i shall be on my way
[01:53] <loz> sorry
[01:54] <ccomp5950> loz are you using WPA?
[01:54] <loz> i ve tried downloading all the software that synaptics propose
[01:54] <fede> ok, thanks
[01:54] <the-erm> Has anyone upgraded to 2.10 and had problems with the screen saver not running  - in particular the slide show.
[01:54] <the-erm> sorry ... 6.10 I mean.
[01:54] <osiris> the-erm, did you try launching xscreensaver by hand ?
[01:54] <loz> and i seem to be given a i p,but no internet connection
[01:54] <osiris> is the app totaly busted, or is the daemon not running
[01:54] <carlos> hello people, does anyone know how to listen to the misic in a mixed cd
[01:55] <loz> no it s working
[01:55] <the-erm> xscreensaver isn't even loaded, maybe that's the problem.
[01:55] <osiris> !restricted media > carlos
[01:55] <the-erm> I'm running kde, and didn't know it relied on that program.
[01:55] <avuton> Could anyone tell me what package asm-offsets.h is in?
[01:55] <osiris> er...
[01:55] <avuton> (should be in /usr/include)
[01:55] <I_Died_Once> anyone know how to fix screensavers in kubuntu? I upgraded to the latest KDE via adept and they're still broken
[01:56] <osiris> !restricted formats > carlos
[01:56] <I_Died_Once> 6.06
[01:56] <loz> ok, do you know how i could get back on a ubuntu, not to keen on kde, prefer gnome;
[01:57] <unix_infidel> loz: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <loz> i tried this
[01:57] <loz> qnd no luck
[01:57] <loz> seems to be missing sme pqckqges
[01:57] <unix_infidel> and then select gnome from KDM or GDM or your xinit method of choice and go nuts.
[01:57] <Hawkwind> Try using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop instead :P
[01:58] <unix_infidel> silly me, assumes people know when to be root :)
[01:58] <cgeo> i'm about to install kubuntu 6.10.fresh installation.i now have kubuntu 6.06. my home folder is in a separate partition. will it retain the same configuration for the kde and firefox (fonts, bookmarks etc)???
[01:58] <unix_infidel> cgeo: sure will :)
[01:58] <Hawkwind> cgeo: It should, yes
[01:58] <loz> not sure
[01:58] <unix_infidel> for the most part.
[01:58] <Hawkwind> cgeo: However, be warned that KDE might act weird so you might have to move your ~/.kde directory and start with a fresh KDE config
[01:59] <I_Died_Once> any ideas on how to enable screensavers? I'm on kubuntu 6.06, updated to KDE 3.5.5 and screensavers still dont work
[01:59] <I_Died_Once> never did
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> loz: So is the accesspoint open ? (i.e no encryption)
[02:00] <loz> yes
[02:00] <cgeo> Hawkwind:really?? i'm asking cause i know that it will be another version of kde in edgy. isn't it fully compatible with the configurations of the privious kde?
[02:00] <loz> i ve downloaded it all ok
[02:00] <willzzz> damn i love the new fonts in edgy
[02:00] <BluesKaj> I _Died -Once, I'm still trying to figure out why my scrnsaver settings won't hold as well
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> loz: run ``route''
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: see if a default route exists
[02:01] <loz> route?
[02:01] <loz> ok
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: just a command will give some output
[02:01] <the-erm> nope no go I installed xscreen saver, and it's still not running :/
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: default         alien.lan       <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> loz: should have a line like that
[02:02] <cgeo> exit
[02:02] <BluesKaj> I_Died_Once, I did have them scrnsavers working in dapper til i upgraded to kde 3.5.5 :( ...same goes for my windows network printer
[02:03] <loz> i seem to hqve got gnome working now
[02:04] <Varjat_by> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! - during ./configure I've got this message... How I can fix that?
[02:05] <doppelganger_> anybody know of a list of wireless cards that are officially support by ubuntu?
[02:05] <BluesKaj> Wonder if I dump kde and install gnome if that will solve my problems
[02:09] <spocky> hello
[02:09] <Eimann> hi
[02:10] <troxor> !nvidia | troxor
[02:10] <ubotu> troxor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:10] <spocky> I'm wondering what the "Dock Application Panel" is for? I did not make any sense out of it. I can not drop any icons on it, nor can I find any place where I can configure it or at least ask it what it's for. So what's it for? And if there is, where do I find a manual for it?
[02:10] <jarn> Alt is binded to something in KDE that is stealing the focus or something (it prevents me from interacting with any program while held), how do I find out what is going on and change it?
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> jarn: have you asked #kde (that is the type of thing they are more likely to know)
[02:14] <Eimann> !netboot | Eimann
[02:14] <ubotu> Eimann: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:15] <Eimann> Hmm.
[02:16] <jarn> h3sp4wn: Good idea, thanks.
[02:17] <ubuntu_> hi
[02:18] <Eimann> I've modified netboot.tar.gz of ubuntu edgy to do a network install of kubuntu, but when i boot it, i get a "cp: unable to open '/root/var/log/': No such file or directory [some more of this errors]  Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.
[02:19] <OOD> jarn: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9920/snapshot2za5.jpg
[02:19] <Eimann> the interesting part of my pxelinux.cfg/default got these two lines: kernel ubuntu-installer/i386/linux linux preseed/url=http://<IP_ADDRESS>/kubuntu.seed and append vga=normal boot=casper initrd=ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw  --
[02:19] <jarn> OOD: Yep, someone just told me in KDE
[02:20] <jarn> OOD: Thanks.
[02:20] <OOD> btw, has anyone tried neverball and engima in edgy?
[02:20] <OOD> jarn: yea
[02:21] <ubuntu_> Uptime: 3 hours and  minutes
[02:23] <Varjat_by> Gays.. I have a link to interested lib - http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/x-window-system-dev . How i can tell to Adept Manager to install this package?
[02:24] <Varjat_by> With all dependencies..
[02:25] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: don't install that its for hoary
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: xorg-dev (install xorg-dev and it will get most of the headers for X
[02:27] <BluesKaj> !Edgy Sources List
[02:27] <Varjat_by> Thanks..
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !Sources List
[02:28] <Eimann> *sigh* no one here with a kubuntu edgy installed via pxe?
[02:28] <Varjat_by> Oh :) May be can easy aksplain what is the difference between deb and deb-src repositories?..
[02:30] <Varjat_by> And I olso coudn't find xorg-dev package in list of AdeptManager :(
[02:31] <BluesKaj> Is there an up to date Edgy Sources List ? ...mine seems to be broken
[02:34] <Varjat_by> :(
[02:35] <Varjat_by> Look.. I found xorg-dev on http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/xorg-dev
[02:35] <Varjat_by> So, how i can configure my sorces.list file to install it?
[02:36] <rUiSu> hi :), has anyone tried to install kubuntu 6.10?
[02:36] <Varjat_by> I write: deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/xorg-dev dapper main - where is mistake?
[02:37] <rUiSu> huh?
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted multivers universe
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted multivers universe
[02:38] <yacoob> hm
[02:38] <yacoob> is there anything for mass tagging music files?
[02:39] <avuton> Could anyone tell me what package asm-offsets.h is in? (should be in your /usr/include if you have it)
[02:39] <yacoob> I know easytag, what's else?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> Varjat_by: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted multivers universe (same for edgy-secuity as well you only need the 3 lines
[02:39] <rUiSu> has anyone intalled kubuntu 6.10 on their machine?
[02:40] <Varjat_by> yacoob: Thanks a lot! I promice you to read man sorces.list same later!
[02:41] <rUiSu> i am traying to install kubuntu 6.10 on my machine, but at the mounting point part 5/6 or 6/6 i think, i get the error : There is no root filesystem
[02:41] <rUiSu> and i have setup a / larger than 2 gigabites and a swap gibber than 256mb....
[02:41] <shadowhywind> i was wondering if there was a log of the text that bootup creates
[02:44] <Furesho> so, lemme get this straight. when you install a program in linux, there isn't a huge bunch o' files added to your comp in differnet folders like in windows? just the one command file?
[02:44] <morbid88> Hi guys.I need help -- These last couple of days I've been receiving a message from the system that the signature check on Google's SSL certificate is invalid.
[02:45] <morbid88> it started when I switched to KDE on Ubuntu. Is it related?
[02:45] <rUiSu> yup
[02:45] <rUiSu> Furesho: yup
[02:45] <rUiSu> oh
[02:45] <rUiSu> umm
[02:46] <rUiSu> no, there are lots of commands and files when nstalling a program
[02:46] <rUiSu> depends on the program you want
[02:47] <Furesho> hmmm...
[02:47] <Furesho> actually, i'm tryin to install a prog called comical
[02:47] <rUiSu> is it text based?
[02:47] <Furesho> i have to install from source.... but not sure where to put what files b4 i run whichever commands i run
[02:47] <Furesho> nope. gui
[02:47] <Furesho> wxWindows based
[02:48] <rUiSu> aha, a a comic viewer
[02:48] <Furesho> yeah
[02:48] <rUiSu> so, i trust there will be lots of files generated
[02:48] <Furesho> i can't officially leave windows without me manga ;)
[02:48] <rUiSu> hehe
[02:48] <Furesho> i have no clue.
[02:48] <rUiSu> yes, most probabli, gui programs need lots of files
[02:49] <morbid88> Does anyone have an idea why google's SSL certificates are reporting as invalid now that I've switched to KDE?
[02:49] <rUiSu> and tools like GTK, kde, gnnome, etc
[02:50] <rUiSu> morbid88: are you using konqueror?
[02:50] <Furesho> hmmm..... lotsa file inside the tar file that i got.
[02:50] <rUiSu> Furesho: then yeah, it will generate lots of little files :)
[02:50] <mariano7> I do not know if I am miunderstanding the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu. Is KDE the only big difference between the two distros?
[02:50] <rUiSu> mariano7: yes
[02:51] <mariano7> Oh, and If I am not able to install ubuntu, is this also a sign that I may not be able to install kubuntu?
[02:51] <Furesho> ah. now, the first question beckons.... what directory should i do all this from? should i move this tar or what?
[02:51] <waspy> i am currently in single user mode, how can i get into multi user and no X?
[02:52] <rUiSu> mariano7, depends, if your problem is on gnome, then you will prolly have no problem with kubuntu, if thats not your problem, then theres lots of chance you will get the same error
[02:52] <wildchild> where do I enable restricted format from multiverse for mp3 ?
[02:52] <waspy> !mp3 | wildchild
[02:52] <ubotu> wildchild: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <rUiSu> Furesho: have you ever compiled from source?
[02:53] <Furesho> no. not to install a program. i've installed a simple hello world before, though
[02:53] <mariano7> well, I booted from the ubuntu disk and I press the load and install option. I then get the ubuntu logo and progress bar. However, after a while I just get a little flashing line on the upper left hand side of the screen. After a few minutes the line goes away and I am left with a black screen.
[02:54] <rUiSu> oh, then that must mean you downloaded a cd but with bytes errors, like some bytes missing, or something
[02:54] <rUiSu> mariano7: i wolud recomend to redownload the cd
[02:54] <waspy> i am currently in single user mode, how can i get into multi user and no X?
[02:54] <mariano7> I've downloaded the cd two times
[02:55] <wildchild> waspy: my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28757/ qhat should I enable or disable it ??
[02:55] <mariano7> I tried a different cd of the 6.06 version which I have already used on a desktop
[02:55] <mariano7> That cd gives me a kernel panic
[02:55] <rUiSu> mariano7:oh, then its prolly a global ubuntu.... but it would not kill you to try kubuntu ;)
[02:55] <mariano7> ok
[02:56] <rUiSu> ok, people, im haveing prblems with kubuntu 6.10, i cannot complete the install
[02:56] <rUiSu> has any one experienced this?
[02:56] <mariano7> will kubuntu run any slower on my laptop than ubuntu. I have a dothan 1.7 intel 855gm chip
[02:56] <waspy> wildchild: er... i cant look at that... i'm kinda stuck in single user mode and therfore stuck in here
[02:56] <rUiSu> mariano7: i dont know, i don know the diferences from gnome and kde
[02:57] <mariano7> cool
[02:57] <mariano7> thanks
[02:57] <Eddy> hi the sounddont work in Flashplayer. How i gonna fix this ?
[02:57] <rUiSu> mariano7:your wellcome
[02:58] <rUiSu> Furesho: ok, ill tell you some advice on installing from source
[02:58] <acesuares> hi, problems with edgy and i810 video card driver (ABI version not good).
[02:58] <acesuares> Is there anyone who has solved this yet, or who can tell met to downgrade to Xorg 7.0 ?
[02:59] <Furesho> cool. hit me.
[02:59] <rUiSu> Furesho: first, create a directory somewhere, mostly convienient on you home directory, then uncompress the tar you have on that new folder
[02:59] <Eddy> the sound i flashplayer dont work. any body  now how to fix it ?
[02:59] <Eddy> i use opera
[02:59] <rUiSu> Eddy:nope
[02:59] <Furesho> alrighty
[03:00] <Furesho> done
[03:00] <Eddy> sombody another
[03:00] <rUiSu> Furesho: ok, later, when its uncompressed, you should enter in the source program's folder by konsole
[03:01] <rUiSu> Fursho: kinda like, in your desktop right click, run commnad, konsole
[03:01] <Furesho> i'm in
[03:01] <root> hello
[03:01] <cgeo> can you tell me where i can find the list of edgy eft repositories??
[03:02] <rUiSu> cd /home/yourhomedir/sourcedir/comical/
[03:02] <rUiSu> ok
[03:02] <rUiSu> so
[03:02] <rUiSu> type
[03:02] <rUiSu> sh configure
[03:02] <Varjat_by> I alredy cann't install xorg-dev :(
[03:02] <Furesho> sh? that one looks new.
[03:02] <rUiSu> and it will display some code, wait till it stops and says "Done, continue to make..."
[03:03] <Furesho> sh: configure: no such file or directory
[03:03] <rUiSu> yes, sh is for ececuting files, its a SHell
[03:03] <root> does anyone know if there is a driver for the audio card maya44 mk2 for linux???
[03:04] <rUiSu> ook, then check if there ois a INTALL file, and check instructions
[03:04] <rUiSu> :P
[03:05] <rUiSu> ok, wait, in what folder are you within konsole?
[03:05] <morbid88> rUiSu: sorry, I must have wandered off... I'm using Evolution and KoPete.
[03:05] <Furesho> ~/allfiles/comicalsrc/comical-0.8
[03:05] <morbid88> And they both report bad ssl cerificates from google.
[03:06] <rUiSu> Furesho:okok, so look for some instruction file
[03:06] <rUiSu> morbid88: no prblem ;)
[03:07] <Furesho> ChangeLog, COPYING, README (which gives no clues) are all i see
[03:07] <morbid88> rUiSu: I'm wondering if it's possible that my system's been compromised?
[03:07] <morbid88> althouh there'd be no reason.
[03:07] <rUiSu> morbid88: nono, its prolly a conflict
[03:07] <rUiSu> morbid88:evolution is your web explorer?
[03:08] <morbid88> no, it's my mail app.
[03:08] <morbid88> I use Opera -- you know what? I think Opera also reports it, and it MAY have started when I installed it.
[03:09] <rUiSu> morbid88: thats prolly the problem
[03:09] <morbid88> is there a way I can verify? If I remove Opera, for instance?
[03:09] <rUiSu> nono, you should try pther explorer
[03:10] <rUiSu> liek firefox..
[03:10] <rUiSu> like*
[03:10] <rUiSu> see if it reports this also
[03:11] <morbid88> rUiSu: hang on, let me give it a go.
[03:13] <Furesho> ComicalSetup.iss what's this?
[03:13] <morbid88> (speaking of firefox, how do I install Ver. 2? there are no instructions or scripts in the package...)
[03:13] <jorgegomez> hello
[03:14] <morbid88> rUiSu: the ceritificate appears valid under Firefox and Opera.
[03:15] <rUiSu> morbid88: so opera also reports the certificate valid???? wasn't that your problem??
[03:15] <rUiSu> Furesho:no dont touch that, find something like "INSTALL" or SETUP or README
[03:15] <morbid88> no, the problem was with evolution and kopete. When you mentioned a browser, I tought that MAYBE it started with opera. But it started some time after I set up kde, I don't know how long after or if it's related.
[03:16] <rUiSu> morbid88: try apt-get ungrade firefox, hhaha but dont listen to me, i don know how to uprgrade any program :P
[03:16] <rUiSu> oh ok
[03:16] <morbid88> rUiSu: look. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28760/
[03:17] <Furesho> the README is there, but it only boasts the features of comical :\
[03:17] <morbid88> This says that the issuer is equifax. The website, www.gmail.com reports the certificate from Thawte.
[03:17] <morbid88> I find that odd.
[03:18] <jorgegomez> hello to anybody
[03:19] <jorgegomez> i want to download yahoo messenger
[03:19] <jorgegomez> and i dont know how
[03:19] <OOD> use kopete
[03:19] <jorgegomez> but? how?
[03:19] <rUiSu> morbid88: yes, thats odd, prolly evolution and kopete are looking for that Equifax instead of the correct Thaete, but, do not worry, try to uninstall and reinstall evolution and kopete, they may have conflicts...
[03:19] <jorgegomez> i dont know not much about ubuntu
[03:19] <OOD> kmenu->internet->kopete?
[03:19] <LjL> jorgegomez: you have Kopete in your Internet menu. it can connect to lots of networks, including the Yahoo AIM network
[03:20] <rUiSu> hmm
[03:20] <Furesho> okay, here's a rundown on what's in the folder: other folders containing icons and source code, files in the folder include a changelog, readme, a makefile, and some kdevelop-related files
[03:20] <jorgegomez> kopete?
[03:20] <morbid88> rUiSu: hmmm... "sudo apt-get remove kopete"?
[03:20] <LjL> jorgegomez, yes, Kopete. K menu / Internet / Kopete
[03:20] <rUiSu> Furesho: is there any other file in big caps?
[03:20] <jorgegomez> ok let me try tanks
[03:20] <Furesho> just README, COPYING, AUTHORS, and TODO
[03:20] <rUiSu> hehe i dont know :P, you should usethe adept installer
[03:21] <jorgegomez> i got kopete
[03:21] <morbid88> I usually use apt-get or synaptic... adept? That's the "Add/Remove" under Gnome?
[03:21] <rUiSu> Furesho: ok, so open TODO and see if there sais INSTALL, if it does, then were screwed
[03:21] <rUiSu> oh, ioh
[03:21] <rUiSu> umm
[03:21] <morbid88> found it.
[03:22] <rUiSu> probably ":P
[03:22] <rUiSu> was it?
[03:22] <morbid88> I'm on KDE now.
[03:22] <morbid88> :-)
[03:22] <Furesho> screwed -__-
[03:22] <rUiSu> ook :)
[03:22] <rUiSu> yes?
[03:22] <Furesho> thanks anyways
[03:22] <rUiSu> Furesho: does it say INSTALL?
[03:23] <rUiSu> Furesho:dont worry, there must be some instructions , just google them ;)
[03:24] <rUiSu> the cant just release some apps without install instructions, there MUST be some instructions left on the web page, or ask saint-google
[03:24] <morbid88> ooooooh.... I just opened "Kontact" and I got blinded by the eye candy. Who needs evolution anyway?
[03:25] <constantine-xvi> what tells the battery monitor in the tray how much battery you have left?
[03:25] <constantine-xvi> morbid88: doesent the entirety of kde blind you with eye candy?
[03:25] <Furesho> nothing. i get the word comical, but not in the sense of the application.
[03:26] <morbid88> constantine-xvi: true, true.
[03:26] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: fire up Konsole and type acpi -b
[03:26] <unix_infidel> or for a more comprehensive output, try acpi -V
[03:26] <morbid88> Okay, next question. I'm using two languages and for some reason the keyboard shortcut doesn't switch between them. Anyone have an idea why not?
[03:27] <constantine-xvi> unix-infidel: that works, but not the monitor in the tray
[03:27] <felixjet> wine 0.9.24 is out ;p
[03:27] <rUiSu> nice
[03:27] <OOD> felixjet: yep. have it compiled and running here :)
[03:27] <rUiSu> hum
[03:27] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: that works, but not the monitor in the tray
[03:27] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i wouldnt know.  I dont use KDE, heck, I mostly use X to spawn $TERM's
[03:28] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: also, try tab-completion :)
[03:28] <constantine-xvi> sorry
[03:28] <felixjet> anyone have run enemy territory?
[03:28] <OOD> felixjet: yea i had it running
[03:28] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: for instance type "unix[then press tab] "
[03:29] <constantine-xvi> yeah, i know, i use it in the terminal, just my irc client usually sucks
[03:29] <rUiSu> Fursho:ive found some instructions
[03:29] <rUiSu> get again within konsole to your comical source dir
[03:29] <felixjet> OOD: where you downloaled it? i dont know why but the version from official website runs at 5 FPS for me :( is the loki installer better?
[03:30] <rUiSu> and type: sudo make
[03:30] <morbid88> hi. anyone here use multiple languages on KDE?
[03:30] <OOD> felixjet: you have the nvidia or ati driver installed?
[03:30] <felixjet> nvidia
[03:30] <rUiSu> morbid88: ive used in japanese, spanish and english
[03:31] <morbid88> rUiSu: I can't get the keybaord shortcut to work.
[03:31] <morbid88> It just doesn't respond.
[03:31] <rUiSu> morbid88:what short cut?
[03:31] <morbid88> it worked fine under GNOME.
[03:31] <morbid88> uh... whatever. I've tried 'em all, under the keyboard utility.
[03:31] <Erich-K> Is there a way to update the KDE artwork without upgrading to 6.10?
[03:32] <rUiSu> morbid88: i thnk kde doesnt have keyboard shortcuts to changing the languajes
[03:32] <constantine-xvi> Erich-K: grab a disc, pull out the artwork
[03:32] <constantine-xvi> easy
[03:32] <felixjet> OOD:  nvidia driver
[03:32] <OOD> felixjet: you have the nvidia driver running right now?
[03:32] <morbid88> rUiSu: all I can say is "......."
[03:33] <rUiSu> yup
[03:33] <Brydenn33> ok i'm trying to connect to EFnet and it wont let me cuz it says i dont have "ident" installed
[03:33] <rUiSu> i THINK.. im no expert
[03:33] <Brydenn33> anyone know how to fix this junk?
[03:33] <rUiSu> i have not touched a linux distro in like 2 years
[03:33] <Brydenn33> btw i'm using Konversation
[03:33] <rUiSu> mhm
[03:34] <Erich-K> constantine: Is there any way to do it via downloading?
[03:34] <jorgegomez> SAID , MY PASSWORD IS WRONG
[03:35] <jorgegomez> IF I WANT TO CONNECT TO YAHOO MESSENGER
[03:35] <constantine-xvi> Erich-K: go to packages.ubuntu.com, search for kubuntu artwork, and make sure to pick edgy
[03:35] <felixjet> OOD:  yes, i have it configured and enabled acceleration
[03:35] <jorgegomez> CAPITAL CAN DO SOME WRONG?
[03:35] <enyawix> can i go to next version with synaptic?
[03:36] <rUiSu> Brydenn33: then how are you here? are you trying with another nick?
[03:36] <rUiSu> Brydenn33: , ok, so as i understand, EFnet wont let you in....
[03:37] <rUiSu> try another nick
[03:37] <jorgegomez> DOESNT WORK KOPETE
[03:37] <jorgegomez> HOW CAN I INSTALL MESSENGER YAHOO
[03:37] <morbid88> rUiSu: under the language icon->configure->Xkb Options there's a list of shortcuts.
[03:37] <Hawkwind> jorgegomez: Please drop the capital letters and type normally
[03:37] <Erich-K> constantine-xvi: Thanks mate
[03:37] <jorgegomez> I TRIED WITH KOPETE
[03:37] <jorgegomez> BUT
[03:37] <jorgegomez> OK
[03:38] <jorgegomez> I WILL TRY THANKS
[03:38] <rUiSu> morbid88: oh... then i have no clue UnU
[03:38] <OOD> felixjet: dont know what the  problem is, patch up to v2.60 if you havent done that already
[03:38] <jdiwnab> I'm trying to install kubuntu, but the fomatting part isn't doing anything. It just sits there forever and does nothing for almost 15 minutes, no progress
[03:38] <Brydenn33> rUiSu: that's right
[03:39] <rUiSu>  jdiwnab: try clickng next
[03:39] <Brydenn33> efnet wont let me connect
[03:39] <Brydenn33> keeps disconnecting me cuz it says i dont have ident installed
[03:39] <morbid88> rUiSu: "UnU"?
[03:39] <rUiSu> Brydenn33: tryed other nick?
[03:39] <rUiSu> its a sad, eyesclosed face
[03:39] <felixjet> OOD: but the version from official website is ok? i dont need the loki installed or anything else?
[03:39] <sorush20> !enblend
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enblend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Brydenn33> i'll try another nick i guess
[03:40] <rUiSu> mhm
[03:40] <earl_> hey guys. so i installed kubuntu 6.10rc the other day. today i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade. am i now running the full release version?
[03:40] <morbid88> ah
[03:40] <earl_> or do i have to do sudo apt-get writegreatamericannovel to dot hat
[03:41] <Brydenn33> rUiSu: [18:45]  [Notice]  -irc.easynews.com- *** Notice -- You need to install identd to use this server. If you have ident installed, ensure you are not blocking port 113 via a firewall.  Visit our website for additional assistance at www.easynews.com/irc.
[03:41] <morbid88> okay. btw, I'e reinstalled opete (I'm forgoing evolution for kontact) and the messages are gone. Thanks.
[03:41] <morbid88> okay, one more, since I appear to be on a roll here.
[03:41] <constantine-xvi> hal isin't reporting battery times right
[03:41] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i dont think hal has anything to do with acpi.
[03:42] <morbid88> I've reinstalled my wireless driver, but I don't know how to get it to start automatically. where do i put the module file so that init.d/networking knows to load it?
[03:43] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: acpi works flawlessly for a lot of mobile computing users.  i think your daemon is acting funny, check your logs for some errors associated with acpi and maybe some other hardware abstraction errors.
[03:43] <rUiSu> nope, i have no experience with networking :(
[03:43] <rUiSu> IDENT Issues
[03:43] <rUiSu> Sunday, July 2, 2006 @ 12:30:00 (MST).
[03:43] <Frederick> folks does anyone ever set a Genius VideoCam Look to work in kubuntu?
[03:44] <jdiwnab> rUisU: it's at the part where it is suppose to format, and so there is no next. This windows apears when I click "Install"
[03:44] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: i grep'd hal for battery, reports 100 (and i have a sony battery), acpi reports 85
[03:44] <some0ne> I see on Kde-look.org there are IceWM themes for KDE. Can I use these with KDE and if so how so?
[03:44] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i'd trust the acpi values.
[03:44] <cpk2> morbid88: modprobe modulename  ?
[03:44] <rUiSu>  Brydenn33: there where some issues in efnet, i thin you have an abusive ISP, do you know if you have that isp??
[03:45] <morbid88> uh... does that set it up permanently?
[03:45] <Brydenn33> rUiSu: haha ya just read that
[03:45] <Jucato> some0ne: you just need to have the IceWM window decoration engine installed, then you can use that
[03:45] <Brydenn33> hmm i'll try another server
[03:45] <rUiSu> mhm
[03:45] <morbid88> cpk2: oh, wait, right, problem was that modprobe can't see the module.
[03:45] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: especially since by now you pretty much "KNOW" your batter, and how much remaining time is at what %
[03:45] <rUiSu> jdiwnab: yes, the installer does seem buggy
[03:45] <morbid88> so I need to stick it somwhere, like /etc/something_system-ish/modules
[03:45] <rUiSu> iv tried to installit, but when mounting it sais y have no root filesistem, but i did setup that....
[03:46] <some0ne> Jucato: How to install that?
[03:46] <jdiwnab> rUiSu: is there anything I can do?
[03:46] <Jucato> some0ne: that, I don't know... I've done it before but forgot how to... sorry... (try Google?)
[03:46] <rUiSu>  jdiwnab: yes, you can post a bug
[03:46] <jdiwnab> :(
[03:47] <hatchek> Hello everyone
[03:47] <rUiSu> lol, i have just seen my bug posted :P
[03:47] <rUiSu> tststs, the should have cheked for that earlier
[03:47] <cpk2> morbid88: not really sure what you are asking but /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[03:47] <hatchek> Question, how does one add a program, say samba, to start at boot?
[03:48] <morbid88> cpk2: could be, let me have a look-see
[03:48] <morbid88> cpk2: is this where I copy the wireless_driver.ko file?
[03:48] <[GuS] > Au revoir, bonne Nuit!! Bye!
[03:49] <cpk2> morbid88: going into the directory and modprobing it from there doesnt work?
[03:49] <rUiSu> buenas noches :)
[03:49] <rUiSu> [GuS]
[03:50] <morbid88> eeeeesh.  Forgot to use depmod -a
[03:50] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: that's great, now how do i get hal fixed so i dont need to go to a terminal to know how long till my battery explodes?
[03:50] <hatchek> How do you add a program to the default startup?
[03:51] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: I'm sorry I cant help there, maybe there's a KDE option that allows you select?
[03:51] <morbid88> cpk2: nope, didn't seem to work. Got a lot of errors in the .ko file
[03:51] <ccomp5950> HELP!!!!  KAtomic has got a hold of me and I can't stop!
[03:51] <constantine-xvi> unix_infidel: nope, id probably have to rewrite the mon
[03:51] <constantine-xvi> morbid88: sudo apt-get remove --purge katomic
[03:51] <constantine-xvi> :)
[03:51] <morbid88> cpk2: what's katomic?
[03:51] <morbid88> !katomic
[03:51] <ubotu> katomic: Atomic Entertainment game for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 133 kB, installed size 716 kB
[03:52] <unix_infidel> constantine-xvi: i prefer gkrellm to a sys tray notification system.
[03:52] <rUiSu> its a game of molecules
[03:52] <xsacha> lol
[03:52] <morbid88> oh, oh, right. Like atomix.
[03:52] <jdiwnab> !wireless
[03:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:52] <constantine-xvi> ccomp5950: sudo apt-get remove --purge katomic
[03:52] <morbid88> is that a comment that I'm spending too much time playing games?
[03:52] <rUiSu> ok, ive seen the work arround to installing the cd
[03:52] <rUiSu> see you people later :)
[03:52] <constantine-xvi> morbid88: sorry
[03:52] <morbid88> :) np
[03:52] <jdiwnab> work arround?
[03:52] <rUiSu> yes
[03:53] <rUiSu> look at the bugs page
[03:53] <jdiwnab> where is that?
[03:53] <rUiSu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:53] <rUiSu> in Known Issues, last one
[03:53] <jdiwnab> thanks
[03:53] <hatchek> Last time, how do you add a program to load during boot?
[03:54] <rUiSu> your wellcome, gbye :)
[03:54] <hatchek> In gentoo I'd just rc-update but nothing like that exists on ubuntu
[03:56] <earl_> is there a way to lock the toolbars in kopete so they don't have those ugly dotted lines around them?
[03:56] <morbid88> !rmmod
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <morbid88> does rmmod unload a module?
[03:57] <hatchek> yes
[03:57] <LjL> morbid88: only if it's not used by other modules
[03:57] <hatchek> modprobe is the other
[03:57] <hatchek> but you need to run them as root (sudo)
[04:08] <Steven_M> hi all
[04:08] <Steven_M> have any of you ever heard of an open source program (regardless of platform) that monitors call bell systems in assisted living facilities to see how long it takes caregivers to answer them?
[04:09] <fon_Zograf> hi people ^_^
[04:09] <fon_Zograf> (russkie estb?=)
[04:10] <metalkr> could you help me?
[04:10] <metalkr> with my kubuntu
[04:10] <fon_Zograf> i very bad speake eng =) only rus & jap longuage =)
[04:10] <jdiwnab> crud... I manually formatted stuff and the installer crashed... Only I am without network access ATM, so no bug report filing possible
[04:11] <TheWheat> hey guys i have an issue with konqueror here. i have a detailed list view. sorted by file type. when i press 'a' konq highlights files based on filetype not filename unlike windows explorer does. anybody know how to get it to search by filename while sorted by file type?
[04:11] <xsacha> without network access? you're talking to us..
[04:11] <jdiwnab> bad NIC on that computer
[04:11] <dragonflyseven> fon_Zorgraf: You speak english much better than I speak Russian. :)
[04:13] <arunkale> hey people.. i have some problems with fonts on flash
[04:13] <Mez> Steven_M, never heard of something like that - but it'd be an interesting project to create ;)
[04:13] <waspy> i am currently in single user mode, how can i get into multi user and no X?
[04:13] <arunkale> i have the required msttcorefonts and the other stuff installed, and even then i can't see fonts properly.. I see all fonts as times new roman instead of arial, can someone help?
[04:13] <jdiwnab> It did this before, it would look like it is starting to reformat, and it either freezes up or crashes the whole installer
[04:14] <jdiwnab> ARG! IT DID IT AGAIN!
[04:14] <jdiwnab> any suggestions?
[04:15] <Mez> waspy, sudo init 3
[04:15] <waspy> thanks
[04:16] <Steven_M> Mez: indeed are you volunteering? :-)
[04:17] <jdiwnab> HELP!
[04:17] <Furesho> just for kicks, i wanted to open up kdevelop & do a simple console app. however, seems i'm havin trouble, cuz i have to pick a project template and i see every type of app BUT a console app.
[04:17] <Mez> Steven_M, I wish I had the time. unfortunately, I have no time to commit, but as i said - it's an interesting project
[04:18] <arunkale> !flash
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <arunkale> !flashplugin
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <arunkale> !flashplayer
[04:18] <Steven_M> ok, thanks anyway Mez :)
[04:19] <Mez> np Steven_M
[04:19] <jdiwnab> GRRRR.... It says to look in /var/log/syslog, but there is no /var/log/
[04:19] <fon_Zograf> People. Prompt how to include a transparency in Kubuntu 6.10. If "Composite" "enable" - the system brakes. The driver put on this management http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide . For this message I use online the translator sorry. Give the reference to a management under " my situation ". thx ^_~
[04:20] <jdiwnab> should I just type in what the traceback is?
[04:23] <jdiwnab> Ok, I found the syslog
[04:23] <jdiwnab> but as I said, it isn't on a computer that can get on the internet
[04:24] <morbid88> okay, so apparently "rmmod" does cause problems when the module is running.
[04:29] <morbid88> thanks for your help, all. I think I've resolved most problems.
[04:29] <morbid88> g'night.
[04:29] <morbid88> exit
[04:29] <morbid88> (I'll do that "exit" thing every single time until I learn... *sigh*)
[04:30] <jdiwnab> HELP SOMEBODY!
[04:30] <some0ne> jdiwnab: Type ls /var
[04:30] <some0ne> jdiwnab: Are you suer there is no directory /var/log?
[04:31] <jdiwnab> It was hidden
[04:31] <jdiwnab> I found the log, but I can't really post it because of network issues
[04:31] <some0ne> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:31] <some0ne> I have libx11 installed what the hell. >_<
[04:32] <jdiwnab> It says it is checking the swap space in parition #2 of IDE2 slave(hdd)...
[04:32] <jdiwnab> And in a minute it will crash
[04:33] <reldruh> I'm having some trouble with samba share permissions I was hoping I could get some help with
[04:34] <reldruh> when I browse the share via smb://my-server/my-share the owner is me and I can freely edit, delete, move all files
[04:34] <reldruh> after I mount it, the owner becomes root and I get access denied whenever I try to do anything
[04:34] <reldruh> Can anybody tell me how to keep the owner as myself?
[04:34] <jdiwnab> Or maybe this time is when it freezes :(
[04:36] <reldruh> jdiwnab: what's wrong?
[04:36] <Danger> ? help i can not start 6.1 with my rdion card
[04:36] <Danger> 'radion
[04:36] <reldruh> Danger: what do you mean 'can't start'?
[04:36] <jdiwnab> The installer for kubuntu either freezes for crashes when I click "Install"
[04:36] <Danger> loads then starts x then freezes
[04:36] <dude_> hello guys
[04:36] <reldruh> dude_: hey :-)
[04:37] <Danger> so  get the "meter" then blank screen
[04:37] <Furesho> *sigh* how can i run a "hello world" template and get something to go wrong?.... aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library  <-- anybody know what that means?
[04:37] <reldruh> jdiwnab: I used to have that problem. Make sure you're using the actual release and not an earlier version
[04:37] <reldruh> Furesho: are you working in kdevelop?
[04:37] <dude_> reldruh: hello
[04:37] <Danger> <is using the actual
[04:37] <jdiwnab> I just downloaded the disk from the download page today
[04:38] <Furesho> yeah
[04:38] <Furesho> kdevelop3
[04:38] <reldruh> Danger: sorry, don't know anything about that.
[04:38] <Danger> humm any one ?
[04:39] <reldruh> jdiwnab: just try it a few times? The same thing happened to me, but after the 3rd of 4th time it just worked and I haven't had any problems since
[04:39] <jdiwnab> I've tried it about 5 times, and restarted twice
[04:39] <reldruh> Furesho: you're just doing the console app, not the kde or win32 one?
[04:40] <Furesho> yeah, i guess. for the template i picked the "simple hello world" template
[04:40] <Furesho> no gui. just wanted to try a simple console app.
[04:40] <xsacha> what package do i need to compile .exe's? didnt come with kubuntu :(
[04:40] <Furesho> i figured if i just built it, it should run right off.
[04:40] <xsacha> cant find it in reps
[04:40] <reldruh> Furesho: I still get the same error. What fixed it for me was running automake + friends, then configure, then build (just ignored the errors) then went back and ran automake + friends again and it worked
[04:40] <Danger> I would settle for a quick install
[04:40] <Furesho> .......
[04:40] <reldruh> Furesho: you'd think so, but I had such a hard time working with kdevelop
[04:41] <reldruh> Furesho: if that doesn't work, try the alternate CD?
[04:41] <xsacha> relduh: what package do i need to compile win32 binaries?
[04:41] <xsacha> linux binaries in kdevelop worked fine
[04:41] <Furesho> oh dear lord. linux is hellish.
[04:41] <reldruh> xsacha: I have no idea. I've never done it. Try building hte basic win32 app, see what errors you get and post them back here
[04:41] <xsacha> reldruh: i said before, c++ compiler cannot create executables -- what package do ineed?
[04:42] <Furesho> i have no idea what you meant by all o' that stuff you said about automake + friends, etc
[04:42] <reldruh> Furesho: it's really not that bad. There's a higher barrier to entry because of the lack of mainstream support, but it's so much better once you get into it
[04:42] <xsacha> Furesho: delete that AM_PROG_LIBTOOL  -- click on the error and then highlight and delete
[04:42] <xsacha> it'll compile fine without it
[04:42] <joshua__> Hello room
[04:42] <Furesho> O_O;
[04:42] <reldruh> joshua__: hi :-)
[04:43] <Furesho> so, i'll be deleting a file like that?
[04:43] <xsacha> no
[04:43] <xsacha> you'll be deleting a line in a file
[04:43] <joshua__> Will the info on ubuntuguide.org be accurate for a kubuntu installation?
[04:44] <reldruh> joshua__: ubuntu and kubuntu both use the same installer. It should be fine
[04:44] <Jucato> er.. not really... but still the same 6 steps
[04:44] <reldruh> Jucato: really? They both use Ubiquity, no? It's always been the same install process on both of them for me
[04:45] <Furesho> i can't seem to do that, xsacha
[04:45] <joshua__> Well would the repos's still be the same?
[04:45] <Jucato> reldruh: same Ubiquity, but different program for the installer: GParted vs. QtParted
[04:45] <_goofy_> what brand video card isbest for linux
[04:45] <Jucato> joshua__: yes the repos are the same
[04:45] <joshua__> And will easy ubuntu work with Kubuntu?
[04:45] <dude___> so how's 6.10?
[04:45] <reldruh> _goofy_: nvidia generally has better linux drivers
[04:45] <reldruh> dude_: wonderful!
[04:45] <reldruh> joshua__: yes
[04:45] <joshua__> Ok, thank you very much.
[04:45] <Jucato> joshua__: there are specific versions of EasyUbuntu for Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[04:46] <joshua__> Oh?
[04:46] <joshua__> Is there an Easy Kubuntu then?
[04:46] <dude___> reldruh: totally different?
[04:46] <jdiwnab> I used the 64 bit desktop disk found at: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[04:46] <Furesho> maybe i should just take it back to the basics and learn what the heck i'm seein on my screen word by word
[04:47] <reldruh> jdiwnab: do you have a 64 bit processor?
[04:47] <jdiwnab> yes
[04:47] <joshua__> I am having a problem with one of the steps on ubuntuguide.org that I didn't see on there before when I monkied with 6.06.  I can't seem to run the freecontrib command that follows the instrustions to edit the sources.list.
[04:48] <reldruh> dude_: no, not really. It's still pretty similar, but lots of upgrades. KDE 3.5.5 is the biggest one
[04:48] <Jucato> PLF is down I think, or doesn't support Edgy...
[04:48] <Danger> whats the trick to start up with the FB=false option
[04:48] <astroO> hello guys
[04:48] <astroO> can someone help me install quake 3 on kubuntu edgy amd64 please ?
[04:49] <joshua__> Ok thanks again
[04:49] <reldruh> does anybody know why samba has one owner when I browse to it via smb:/ and another one after I've mounted it which keeps giving me access denied errors?
[04:49] <dive-o> Anyone know of a good MUD client that'll run on kubuntu? I honestly don't care if it's X, Gnome, or KDE based, I'm just tired of lyntin :)
[04:49] <jdiwnab> Is there anything I can really do? Or should I give up like the previous linux atempts?
[04:50] <dive-o> jdiwnab: what's the problem?
[04:50] <jdiwnab> I have a windows one that I can port as soon as I get linux installed (in about 10 minutes)
[04:50] <jdiwnab> the kubuntu installer freezes or crashes
[04:51] <dive-o> hrm
[04:51] <dive-o> what kind of hardware?
[04:51] <jdiwnab> AMD64
[04:51] <jdiwnab> umm...
[04:51] <jdiwnab> What else do you need to know?
[04:52] <astroO> i just installed edgy 64 on amd64 3700+, works fine except dualview dunno how to config damn xorg.conf =)
[04:52] <dive-o> was wondering about motherboard, drives, ram, etc
[04:52] <jdiwnab> Crappy onboard ATI GFX
[04:52] <dive-o> I'm about to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[04:52] <jdiwnab> Asus MB
[04:52] <jdiwnab> 1.5 GB of random RAM that has worked well previously
[04:53] <joshua__> Might be a bad download, bad CD, dirty drive
[04:53] <jdiwnab> Samsung 60GB HD (installing on)
[04:53] <astroO> memtest your ram maybe jdawiz
[04:53] <astroO> jdiwnab,
[04:53] <joshua__> I've downloaded distros before that seemed to junk out
[04:54] <xsacha> Furesho: click on the warning about  that line, and then it'll open that file.. delete that line in the file
[04:54] <Danger> my cd is fine and I still cant run
[04:54] <Danger> this si daft
[04:54] <jdiwnab> My ram worked in SuSE 10.1, but not everything else did
[04:55] <dive-o> hrm
[04:55] <Furesho> i did that. nothing happens. you see, it's not in the errors window. it's in the messages window. don't really know if that makes a difference, but that's where it is and when i click it, i get nothin.
[04:55] <Danger> There has got t be a fix for this xandros and suse run fine but kubuntu wont start?
[04:55] <jdiwnab> It freezes/crashes after I hit the "install" button that is after partioning
[04:56] <Danger> at least you get that far
[04:57] <jorgegomez> i cant login messenger yahoo
[04:58] <jorgegomez> kopete dont reconigze my password
[04:58] <jorgegomez> any can help me
[04:58] <jdiwnab> :(
[04:58] <jorgegomez> i changed my pass by small capitals
[05:00] <Art_> So how do I get rid of that stupid bouncing cursor in Edgy?
[05:00] <jorgegomez> hello somebody can help me to login to yahoo messenger?
[05:01] <Danger> any one have issues starting the live disk with an ATI card
[05:01] <jdiwnab> Danger, Not with starting the live disk
[05:01] <BonBonTheJon> Art_: look in the system settings
[05:02] <jdiwnab> What is the disk check suppose to do when it is done?
[05:02] <Danger> Damm It gets to X and locks up
[05:02] <jdiwnab> what is your card?
[05:02] <jorgegomez> am tried kopete but dont let me come in
[05:02] <Danger> Radion 7800
[05:03] <jdiwnab> Radion express 200, or something like that
[05:03] <Danger> is there a way of watching the boot with out the mooving bar screen
[05:03] <dude___> if i upgrade my 6.06 tp
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: what is your problem
[05:04] <jdiwnab> Some distros have you press an f# button
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> Danger: I think it is alt-f1
[05:04] <Danger> ok i iwll try nned to debug this
[05:04] <jorgegomez> i have messenger yahoo in my desktop but how can i extract those files/
 i have messenger yahoo in my desktop but how can i extract those files/
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> jorgegomez: I can't connect to yahoo messenger with Kopete either
[05:05] <jdiwnab> The installer for kubuntu freezes and/or crashes when I click the "install" button after the formatting page
[05:05] <jorgegomez> well we are 2
[05:05] <Danger> saidly says it isnt alt-F1
[05:05] <qwerty> anyone dual boot install on a raid 0 with windows already installed?
[05:05] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: if the live cd doesnt work, try the alternative install disc, I have had much better success with it
[05:06] <crunchyy> hello
[05:06] <jdiwnab> does it atleast have a basic installer?
[05:06] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: text mode installer if thats what you mean
[05:06] <BonBonTheJon> hi crunchyy
[05:06] <crunchyy> ohhhhh ok it's working :D
[05:07] <dude___> question
[05:07] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: I normally just download the alt install cd
[05:07] <reldruh> Mez: release of Katapult?
[05:07] <BonBonTheJon> dude___: ask it
[05:07] <Mez> reldruh, yes, I'm getting ready to release a new version of katapult
[05:08] <dude___> i want to upgrade my kubuntu
[05:08] <Jucato> Mez: fixing the Katapult-Amarok thingy?
[05:08] <reldruh> Mez: what are the differences between it now and in your new version?
[05:08] <Mez> Jucato, lol - yeah - even though Riddell uploaded the wrong patch to edgy ;)
[05:08] <BonBonTheJon> dude___: whats your question
[05:08] <Jucato> Mez: lol :)
[05:08] <reldruh> Mez: you're a KDE developer?
[05:08] <jorgegomez> how can i descompress yahoo messenger from my desktop
[05:08] <dr`venom> hey guys, I am knew to kubuntu and I can't seem to install knetwork manager from source. I use to do it with ./configure, make, make install on suse
[05:08] <Danger> who had the amd64 issue
[05:08] <Mez> reldruh, I develop lots of things, and yes, I guess you could call me a KDE developer
[05:08] <dude___> BonBonTheJon: how do i upgrade?
[05:08] <qwerty> anyone dual boot install on a raid 0 with windows already installed?
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: knetworkmanager is in teh repos
[05:09] <dr`venom> rpm?
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> !upgrade | dude___
[05:09] <ubotu> dude___: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:09] <dr`venom> I can't connect to my wireless
[05:09] <cpk2> dr`venom: ubuntu doesnt use rpms, it uses .debs
[05:09] <dr`venom> the wirless manager does not offer a wpa option
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: did you look in adept, it should have knetworkmanager
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> !wpa | dr`venom
[05:09] <ubotu> dr`venom: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <dr`venom> ok
[05:10] <dr`venom> !wpa
[05:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <jdiwnab> what is the CD check suppose to do when it is done?
[05:10] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: its been a while, but I think it asked to go to the installer
[05:10] <sheft> Hello, i read somewhere that edgy has AIGLX built-in. is that true, and is that the same thing as XGL compiz/beryl?
[05:10] <jdiwnab> Danger, I have amd64, but I don't know if you where talking about me
[05:11] <crunchyy> hi, i'am discovring the IRC with Kubunt, is there some other known server?
[05:11] <Danger> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-96.html is supposed to be abou tthat
[05:11] <qwerty> where is this alternative?  I can't find a place to dl
[05:11] <BonBonTheJon> crunchyy: there are other IRC servers, but this is the one that has kubuntu
[05:12] <sheft> (officially)
[05:12] <BonBonTheJon> true, thanks sheft
[05:12] <sheft> crunchyy: u can try quakenet (dedicated for gamers)
[05:12] <jdiwnab> OK, it said to press any key to contenue, only faintly so I coudln't see it accross the room
[05:12] <sheft> or efnet dedicated for "warezers" :P
[05:12] <Danger> Geee look at Suse boot! bye kubuntu!
[05:12] <BonBonTheJon> qwerty: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/ is where I downloaded mione
[05:12] <crunchyy> where can we found them?
[05:13] <crunchyy> no, no warez :D
[05:13] <qwerty> nice, thanks bonbon
[05:13] <dr`venom> so, I went to the wireless doc pages. Dont I have to be online first to be able to do the apt-get on knetwork manager
[05:13] <dude___> jucato: help :)
[05:14] <dr`venom> i'm doing it on my laptop which I cannot connect to the internet
[05:14] <Jucato> dude___: what's up?
[05:14] <crunchyy> is there a web adress that list servers per category?
[05:14] <dr`venom> So when I do the apt get it says that package could not be found
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: can't you plug the laptop in to download the file
[05:14] <Jucato> crunchyy: you'd have to google for them I think. some known servers are DALnet, Undernet, Freenode (this one), quaknet, tc
[05:15] <dr`venom> nope, I dont have an extra network cable
[05:15] <crunchyy> ok thx a lot google is my friend good luck...
[05:15] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: it might be on the install cd if you have that around
[05:15] <dr`venom> I would hate to have to go out and buy an extra one. Is there no easy way to install from source?
[05:15] <dr`venom> I have the kubuntu cd
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: if you install the package it will get updated later, unlike from source
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: you can install from source if all else fails
[05:16] <NDPowerBook> Hey all
[05:16] <dr`venom> so, my best bet is to go buy an extra network cable to connect my laptop to the internet first?
[05:16] <NDPowerBook> Whats the easiest way to upgrade to 6.10?
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: so you already have the source
[05:17] <NDPowerBook> I'm running 6.06
[05:17] <BonBonTheJon> !upgrade | NDPowerBook
[05:17] <ubotu> NDPowerBook: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:17] <dr`venom> yup
[05:17] <NDPowerBook> Thanks
[05:17] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: do you have build-essential isntalled
[05:17] <dr`venom> I put it on my flash drive and transfered it to my laptop
[05:18] <dr`venom> I dont see it, I just installed edgy. I have never used kubuntu before.
[05:18] <dr`venom> But, from the looks I dont think it is installed
[05:18] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: ok, put in the cd, open adept and try to install knetworkmanager
[05:20] <dr`venom> the package is not on the cd
[05:20] <dr`venom> just did a search with adept
[05:20] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: do you have the cd in the sources
[05:20] <BonBonTheJon> dr`venom: its in main so I would think it is on the cd
[05:21] <dr`venom> I put the cd in and I did a search knetworkmanager
[05:21] <dr`venom> and nothing, it only shows knetworkconf
[05:21] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: use bittorrent to download faster
[05:21] <TehUni> dr`venom: sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[05:21] <dr`venom> I have wireless assistant
[05:21] <Jucato> how do I permanently change the DNS? whenever I edit /etc/resolve.conf (or in System Settings), it reverts to the original DNS after a reboot
[05:21] <TehUni> oh
[05:21] <dr`venom> but unlike knetwork manager, it does not offer the wpa
[05:21] <TehUni> gotcha
[05:22] <jdiwnab> How fast is the torrent? I can download noramlly at about 600Kb/s
[05:22] <dr`venom> option
[05:22] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: much faster than only a server
[05:23] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: if you go to the download page look for bittorent and use that
[05:23] <dr`venom> i'm going to go ask my neighbor to see if he has an extra network cable
[05:23] <dr`venom> brb
[05:23] <Furesho> i had to install libtools
[05:25] <BluesKaj> Why won't the screesaver work in kde 3.5.5 ...is there a bug fix ?
[05:25] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: it worked for me
[05:26] <BluesKaj> it works in the test mode etc but when it 's in real time...no go
[05:27] <jorgegomez> ey how can i clear suse 10.1 and set up windows ?
[05:27] <jorgegomez> somebody can help me/
[05:27] <BluesKaj> well, bully for you BonBonTheJon, but that doesn't help me
[05:27] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: sorry :(
[05:28] <BluesKaj> BonBonTheJon,did you do a clean install or upgrade to edgy ?
[05:28] <felixjet> !Shockwave
[05:28] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[05:28] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: I upgraded, but a lot of stuff messed up so I am reinstalling
[05:28] <felixjet> u_U
[05:29] <sts9> how much system slowdown am I going to experience if I install the kdebase-dbg package for usefuls bug reports?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> jorgegomez, goto the suse chat, this is ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:29] <jdiwnab> Would it be hard to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10?
[05:30] <jorgegomez> ok
[05:30] <sts9> jeez the firefox dbg package is almost 50Mb! wow, thats almost more then all the kde dbg packages combined!
[05:30] <jorgegomez> how can i go to suse
[05:30] <BluesKaj> reinstalling how , BonBonTheJon?
[05:30] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: backing up my files and reinstalling
[05:30] <dmitri> has anyone tried ff2.0?
[05:30] <jdiwnab> the windows version
[05:30] <jdiwnab> yes
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: that is not a good idea, you should go 5.10 to 6.04 to 6.10
[05:31] <BluesKaj> how are backing up your files ...to cd?
[05:31] <jdiwnab> I didn't like the new tabs, but I like everything else
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> BluesKaj: I have a file server
[05:31] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:31] <jdiwnab> BonBonTheJon, is that hard?
[05:31] <dmitri> is it worth installing or should i wait untill official release?
[05:31] <sts9> I dont like the new tabs either, Its annoying
[05:31] <Dr_willis> dmitri,  i thoght it was officially released.. :P
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: I do suggest moving to 6.04, but hold on the move to 6.10
[05:32] <jdiwnab> I found an extention that fixed some of the annoyances
[05:32] <Dr_willis> dmitri,  using it under edgy and windows xp - no issues so far.
[05:32] <xsacha> im using 32-bit ff2.0 under amd64 kubuntu edgy... working fine
[05:32] <jdiwnab> I ask becuase I have my good 5.10 disks, and didn't know about using them instead of all this mess with the 6.10 disk I just got
[05:32] <dmitri> Dr_willis: i was wondering how it runs on linux
[05:33] <sts9> I havent had any crashes with it so far, and Im using it with the new flashplayer beta
[05:33] <Dr_willis> dmitri,  runs fine for me.
[05:33] <xsacha> it takes a while to start up, but fast once it's open
[05:33] <Dr_willis> same here sts9
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon> jdiwnab: maybe if you do a fresh install of 6.10 you will be ok, I had a problem upgrading 6.04 to 6.10
[05:33] <xsacha> i rarely spell words wrong and the red highlighting on legit words sucks
[05:34] <dmitri> xsacha: can you turn it off?
[05:34] <jdiwnab> I spell stuff wrong all the time
[05:34] <xsacha> yep, done
[05:35] <sts9> so is edgy going to be the kubuntu equivalent of debian unstable? or just another 6 month release?
[05:35] <BonBonTheJon> sts9: its another 6 month release
[05:35] <sts9> so in six months, it wont be so edgy anymore
[05:36] <Jucato> yes, but it's supported for 18 months after
[05:36] <BonBonTheJon> sts9: the next release will be Feisty Fawn
[05:36] <Jucato> Dapper is supported for 3 years
[05:36] <Jucato> 3 years on Desktop, 5 years on Server
[05:36] <dude___> jucato: help :)
[05:37] <Jucato> !release | sts9
[05:37] <ubotu> sts9: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:37] <Jucato> dude___: what?
[05:37] <astroO> hey guys, can someone help me set dualview with kubuntu please ?
[05:37] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: do you know how to back up kontact
[05:37] <Dr_willis> dualview?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Ive heard of TwinView
[05:37] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: er.. which part of Kontact?
[05:37] <astroO> nvida 7800 GT and 2 x 1280x1024 monitors
[05:37] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: kmail
[05:37] <Jucato> ah no... :(
[05:37] <dude___> jucato: i want to upgrade
[05:37] <dude___> :)
[05:37] <astroO> no twinview is same view on both
[05:37] <astroO> dont want that
[05:38] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: maybe just copy the ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail directory?
[05:38] <Jucato> !upgrade | dude___
[05:38] <ubotu> dude___: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:38] <Parkotron> astroO: Twinview does both.
[05:38] <BluesKaj> I hope the bugs in kde are fixed soon, cuz have no screensaver or network printer working since updating to kde 3.5.5
[05:38] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: I'm just copying the whole home directory
[05:38] <Dr_willis> astroO,  twinview dosent have to clone the same output to both monitors.
[05:38] <dude___> jucato: im getting errors
[05:38] <Dr_willis> astroO,  it CAN clone.. but it dosent have to.
[05:38] <astroO> ah then my fault sorry "twin" means same sorry =)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> check out -->   nvidia-settings  --help
[05:38] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: ooh.... just for kmail? probably just ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ and ~/.kde/share/config/kmail* ?
[05:38] <Jucato> dude___: what errors?
[05:39] <astroO> can you show me some good tutorial please ?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i used the nvidia-settings tool to have it generate varouls X configs with twinview enabled.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> astroO,  also i read the nvidia docs.. and a gentoo howto or 2
[05:39] <Parkotron> astroO: http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[05:39] <Dr_willis> its a interesting 'topic' :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> But i was able to get a working x config with that command.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i then used as the basis for a tweaked config
[05:40] <astroO> im searching on the net since 24hours already, on debian i had it done in 2h
[05:40] <dude___> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28774/
[05:40] <astroO> thanx a lot ill read links
[05:40] <astroO> =)
[05:40] <luisf> Hey guys, I have a doubt about the new init system...
[05:40] <luisf> I want to know whitch file is similar to the old inittab in the initng???
[05:40] <Jucato> dude___: what are you trying to do?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig  --help     May of been what i used...
[05:40] <dude___> jucato: gksu update-manager -c
[05:41] <Parkotron> luisf: Upstart has almost nothing in common with InitNG.
[05:41] <luisf> I want to turn off the text terminals that are opened by default!
[05:41] <Jucato> dude___: we dont' have update-manager on Kubuntu
[05:41] <Dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig  --twinview/--no-twinview
[05:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:41] <dude___> jucato: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <luisf> It opens 6 terminals and yhe X...
[05:41] <Jucato> dude___: did you try out the link that was given to you?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> saw that in the Ubuntu Hacks book
[05:41] <dude___> jucato: yes
[05:41] <astroO> Dr_willis:  nothing in nvidia xconfig help talking about twinview
[05:42] <astroO> hum
[05:42] <Dr_willis> nvidia-xconfig  -a  for extended help. :P
[05:42] <Jucato> dude___: so you installed Kubuntu over Ubuntu?
[05:42] <astroO> =)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> -A, --advanced-help
[05:42] <Dr_willis> whic seems SILLY way to do it.
[05:42] <dude___> jucatu: yes
[05:43] <astroO> ok youre right, i test it now =)
[05:43] <SCFan42> I'm having problems with video support in Edgy (AMD64), using the vesa driver on a laptop with no better driver support. It's usable with dapper (still installed), but the driver in Edgy causes slowdowns, such as when resizing windows or scrolling in Konqueror, to the point of making Firefox unusable. The card is some VIA Chrome9 thing.
[05:43] <SCFan42> Whoa that was longer than I thought
[05:44] <dude___> jucato: yes
[05:44] <Jucato> dude___: the command is: gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:44] <astroO> brb
[05:44] <Jucato> dude___: did you put the " " ??
[05:45] <SCFan42> I tried several times to tell X to use via instead of vesa in xorg.conf, but the via driver doesn't recognize my card and X doesn't load
[05:45] <dude___> jucato: no
[05:45] <dude___> :)
[05:45] <Jucato> dude___: well there you have it :P
[05:46] <xsacha> SCFan42: can you do: lspci -v
[05:46] <SCFan42> Yeah
[05:46] <xsacha> what do you see for 01:00.0 (might be last or second last in list)
[05:46] <astroO> wow im in twinview but its a bit streched
[05:46] <astroO> weird
[05:46] <astroO> i check xorg.conf
[05:47] <SCFan42> Unknown device 3230
[05:47] <xsacha> :S
[05:47] <SCFan42> After VIA Technologies, Inc.:
[05:47] <SCFan42> A bit too much to copy/paste
[05:47] <xsacha> lspci -n
[05:47] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:47] <xsacha> it should only have numbers
[05:47] <SCFan42> 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1106:3230 (rev 01)
[05:47] <xsacha> lspci -n   should look like this: 01:00.0 0300: 1002:4150
[05:47] <xsacha> ok
[05:48] <xsacha> VIA Technologies Inc. Device:. VIA/S3G DeltaChrome IGP, all.
[05:49] <SCFan42> According to the specs from VIA's site for the motherboard chipset, it's called a VIA Chrome9 specifically
[05:49] <dude___> jucato: how about my KDE?
[05:50] <dude___> jucato: will it retain the old version
[05:50] <Jucato> dude___: if you upgrade (dist-upgrade, actually) to Edgy, KDE will automatically be updated as well
[05:50] <Jucato> dude___: everything you have will be upgraded to what version there is in Edgy
[05:50] <xsacha> it'll be S3 SCFan42
[05:50] <xsacha> S3G driver
[05:51] <dude___> jucato: ok, copy that, thx
[05:51] <azriel> anyone know why a kernel that was working before would start giving me vfs kernel panic unknown block after upgrading to edgy?
[05:52] <dude___> jucato: 2hrs remaining...hehehe
[05:52] <SCFan42> Alright, I'll give that a try. I'm on the laptop now so I'll to reboot from CD
[05:53] <Jucato> dude___: good luck! :)
[05:53] <dude___> jucato: tagay first heheheh
[05:53] <Jucato> dude___: sige ba! :)
[05:53] <jdiwnab> After this freakn' memtest, I'm not doing it again
[05:54] <dude___> jdiwnab: what happened
[05:54] <luisf> azriel: It must be a bug that happened upgrading the fstab!
[05:54] <jdiwnab> I'm still testing stuff as to why kubuntu isn't installing
[05:54] <dude___> jucato: i intalled 4 OS heheheh
[05:55] <luisf> azriel: You could use a livecd to restore your fstab.
[05:55] <dude___> jucato: and planning to add more : )
[05:55] <jdiwnab> what ones do you have?
[05:56] <Jucato> dude___: lol! tanghalian muna :D
[05:56] <Jucato> going away heheh
[05:56] <dude___> jucato: ok pare, tnx po ulit...
[05:56] <azriel> i can boot with the image that installed with the upgrade...just cant boot my old kernel
[05:56] <astroO> thanx you twinview is working great now =)
[05:56] <astroO> there is Metamod setting in xoorg.conf
[05:57] <astroO> it was wrong =)
[05:58] <luisf> azuriel: It hapens becuse after the upgrade the system install newer FS tools, and your old kernel doesn't support new versions of the File System!
[05:58] <azriel> ah, ok thx
[05:59] <luisf> the upgrade converts the partition type too!!!
[05:59] <azriel> other weird thing i get is when trying to run the ati driver install : ./ati-installer.sh: 176: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[06:00] <azriel> same copy of the file worked before
[06:01] <xsacha> azriel: it changes files after you use it
[06:01] <xsacha> did you use the uninstall?
[06:01] <azriel> no
[06:01] <xsacha> extract it from the file again
[06:01] <coreymon77> k
[06:02] <coreymon77> gnight everyone
[06:02] <coreymon77> time for me to go to sleep
[06:02] <jdiwnab> well, the memtest passed
[06:03] <xsacha> how long did memtest take?
[06:03] <jdiwnab> about 45 minutes
[06:03] <xsacha> :S
[06:03] <jdiwnab> I have lots of RAM
[06:03] <xsacha> takes me hours
[06:03] <jdiwnab> seemed like hours
[06:03] <xsacha> i dont have much ram :(
[06:03] <coreymon77> night guys
[06:04] <felixjet> !tar
[06:04] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:07] <astroO> which ftp client is as good as flashFXP on windows please ? I tried gftp but don't like bookmarking
[06:07] <astroO> any advice ?
[06:08] <astroO> and cant find iglooFTP for test
[06:08] <astroO> link on their site seems to be broken
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> time to grab kubuntu 6.10 I notice
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> any issues to far
[06:09] <Linux_Galore> ?
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> bugger no mirror for Australia but there is on for NZ, how dumb is that
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> one*
[06:11] <Mez> !tar
[06:11] <ubotu> tar-#kubuntu is Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:11] <Linux_Galore> NZ is like 1/4 the size of Australia
[06:12] <Mez> !tar
[06:12] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:12] <Mez> !zip
[06:13] <franz85> dns abattoir
[06:13] <Darth_Tux> hi  all, i just installed kubuntu on a apple ibook and was hoping i could get help with my wireless
[06:13] <nalioth> i suspect Darth_Tux needs to know how to enable his wireless hardware
[06:14] <Darth_Tux> nalioth: thanks ;
[06:14] <Darth_Tux> )
[06:14] <SCFan42> xsacha: no luck I'm afraid, tried just about any driver that looked like it might work
[06:15] <xsacha> SCFan42: you tried Driver "savage" ?
[06:15] <xsacha> :( that sucks, no drivers?
[06:16] <SCFan42> Nope, tried all three s3-related ones, fbdev, and a couple others
[06:16] <xsacha> oh they arent videodrivers though
[06:16] <xsacha> "savage" is the video driver
[06:16] <SCFan42> Well there was s3 and s3virge
[06:17] <xsacha> k
[06:17] <SCFan42> And savage, all three returned no device detected
[06:18] <christopher> hi. can somebody open a private chat with me and help me debug my speakers? I know they are not broken and they are well supported by linux (intel HD)
[06:20] <nalioth> !tell Darth_Tux about upgrade
[06:22] <myesterious> hi
[06:23] <mkquist> christopher - this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound
[06:23] <tahim> h
[06:23] <mkquist> !tell mkquist about upgrade
[06:24] <myesterious> Can i custom package install on Alternate cd ?
[06:26] <BonBonTheJon> myesterious: you probably want the server disc and then add packages
[06:26] <Jucato> (or the alternate install cd, and add packages)
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hi all
[06:27] <BonBonTheJon> can you do a base install with the alt. install
[06:27] <Jucato> yes
[06:27] <BonBonTheJon> hi DaSkreech
[06:27] <myesterious> point of my using is Desktop but want to select package with myself.
[06:27] <Jucato> server/base/minimal install using Alternate Install CD
[06:27] <myesterious> like install KDE on Debian.
[06:28] <myesterious> ok thanks
[06:29] <felixjet> there is more software for mac than linux u___U
[06:31] <DaSkreech> BonBonTheJon: Hey hey
[06:31] <noir> hello I'm new to kubuntu and i'm trying to figure out what the kubuntu equvilant to Step 5  Navigate to the computer directory from within the places menu. Right-click the HDD partition(s) that you specified in the pmount.allow file and in the resulting menu select mount (you can also mount the disk by double-clicking its icon). Close the computer window then reopen it and the partition will be accessable. that is
[06:32] <DaSkreech> felixjet: Eh?
[06:32] <felixjet> DaSkreech:  uh?
[06:32] <noir> any insight would be appreciated ^,^
[06:32] <DaSkreech> The more than mac thing?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> noir: I don't get it what are you doing?
[06:32] <Mez> noir: open up konqueror and in the URL address goto media:/
[06:32] <felixjet> all the software im trying to use in linux only have version for win and mac
[06:32] <noir> I'm trying to mount another hd
[06:32] <felixjet> that is what i mean
[06:32] <noir> i've done everything but that last step there
[06:33] <Mez> that's pretty much the same as places->computer
[06:33] <DaSkreech> noir: repoening the window?
[06:33] <Jucato> felixjet: doesn't mean that there's more software available for Mac/XP.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> noir: Or the actuall mounting?
[06:33] <jorgegomez> please somebody can tell how can i install yahoo messenger?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Press Alt+Spcae
[06:33] <noir> simply finding the places menu
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Space even
[06:33] <noir> would be a big help
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Type Kop then press enter
[06:34] <jorgegomez> am tried kopete but dosnt reconogize my yahoo accounto
[06:34] <DaSkreech> noir: Ahh
[06:34] <DaSkreech> noir: It's the second button on teh kicker
[06:34] <DaSkreech> beside teh K
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Think it's a Computer or some such
[06:34] <Jucato> it's called System Menu
[06:34] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: What does it do?
[06:34] <noir> oh lol thanks ^.^
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Still think it needs a hot key
[06:35] <Jucato> :)
[06:35] <DaSkreech> I treat my Mouse like it has antrhrax infected with leprosy
[06:36] <DaSkreech> felixjet: Astute :)
[06:36] <jorgegomez> am triying
[06:36] <mariano_> do you guys think that installing aigxl will slow my system down given that I am running the integrated graphics card intel 855GM
[06:36] <felixjet> more than half hour compiling it
[06:36] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: What error does it give you?
[06:36] <jorgegomez> ask for my pass
[06:36] <jorgegomez> but
[06:37] <DaSkreech> mariano_: No. but ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:37] <jorgegomez> doesnt reconognize
[06:37] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: are you sure it's Yahoo and not the KDe wallet?
[06:37] <jorgegomez> am not sure
[06:37] <jorgegomez> this my first day in ubuntu
[06:38] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: First of all welcome
[06:38] <jorgegomez> thanks
[06:38] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: The KDE wallet comes up anytime a password is requested
[06:38] <Snake> Hey guys im looking for SDL_Pango, what pacakge would have that?
[06:38] <DaSkreech>  do you see the Yahoo face on teh password prompt box?
[06:38] <jorgegomez> am alredy find hot but yahoo i cant
[06:38] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:39] <DaSkreech> And it should only have one entry box
[06:39] <Snake> no one :'(
[06:39] <jorgegomez> and wallet i need to put my yahoo pass?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> not two or three
[06:39] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: No just cancel it
[06:39] <jorgegomez> oh
[06:39] <DaSkreech> then the Yahoo password one will come up
[06:39] <DaSkreech> If you get on Yahoo I'll explain that if you like
[06:39] <jorgegomez> please
[06:40] <Snake> ugh this is bullshit.
[06:40] <jorgegomez> or if i tell you what i find in my screen
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !language
[06:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:40] <DaSkreech> ok You cancelled the wallet?
[06:40] <jorgegomez> am doing applications/internet/
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:41] <jorgegomez> kopete/ appear the kopete window
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:41] <jorgegomez> am gone settings
[06:42] <jorgegomez> configure
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:42] <jorgegomez> accounts
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Yup
[06:42] <DaSkreech> And your yahoo account is there?
[06:43] <jorgegomez> am just write again
[06:43] <jorgegomez> and
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Is your yahoo account already there when you go to accounts?
[06:43] <jorgegomez> i need to put my pass
[06:43] <DaSkreech> or you are redoing it?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Hold on
[06:43] <jorgegomez> but
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Is your yahoo account already there when you go to accounts?
[06:43] <jorgegomez> dosnt appear my add friends
[06:44] <motorhead> hallo
[06:44] <felixjet> !de
[06:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:44] <Motorhead> woow
[06:44] <Motorhead> wow
[06:44] <Motorhead> *
[06:44] <jdiwnab> cool
[06:44] <Motorhead> ich spreche nicht Deutsch.
[06:44] <Jucato> Motorhead: didn't come in with "hai" this time?
[06:45] <Motorhead> omg, i forgot
[06:45] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: hold up. When you go to accounts is your Yahoo ID there already?
[06:45] <Motorhead> lol
[06:45] <jorgegomez> yes
[06:45] <Jucato> heh
[06:45] <jorgegomez> and i insert my pass
[06:45] <Motorhead> :P
[06:45] <jorgegomez> its ok?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> In the accoutns window?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Oh You clicked on modify?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> and where it said save password you put your password tehre?
[06:46] <jorgegomez> mmmmmmm
[06:46] <Motorhead> so whats a good ftp server?? (easy to install :P)
[06:46] <Motorhead> ??
[06:46] <jorgegomez> and tellme finish
[06:47] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Ok fine
[06:47] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:47] <jorgegomez> now is requiring my pass
[06:47] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: now if you ok out to the Kopete window there should a Yahoo icon in the bottom right corner of Kopete
[06:48] <jorgegomez> yes is there
[06:48] <DaSkreech> does it have two spaces for you to type in?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> your password?
[06:49] <jorgegomez> appear a window
[06:49] <jorgegomez> and am inserted my pass but said
[06:49] <jdiwnab> Anyone with an idea why the kubuntu install freezes yet?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Alternative?
[06:50] <jorgegomez> could not log into the yahoo service
[06:50] <jorgegomez> username is invalid?
[06:50] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Which Kubuntu is this? 6.10 or 6.06 ?
[06:50] <jorgegomez> well am not sure
[06:51] <jorgegomez> how can i know that
[06:51] <bLaZeD> jorgegomez, the filename should sya
[06:52] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: from a konsole type cat /etc/issue
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Or yeah if you burnt the CD yourself the file you burnt it from shoudl say
[06:52] <jorgegomez> ok let do it
[06:52] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Do you know if it was dapper or edgy?
[06:52] <jorgegomez> no
[06:52] <DaSkreech> OK
[06:53] <jorgegomez> let use the console
[06:53] <DaSkreech> try the cat /etc/issue
[06:53] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:54] <jorgegomez> said
[06:54] <jorgegomez> no such file or directory
[06:55] <Jucato> how do I permanently change the DNS? whenever I edit /etc/resolve.conf (or in System Settings), it reverts to the original DNS after a reboot
 said no such file or directory
[06:57] <craig_> Hello all, I haven't been to this services before. Have been using Kubuntu for a while but got into some trouble with upgrade to Edgy
[06:57] <jdiwnab> !upgrade
[06:57] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:58] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: it has to be there
[06:58] <jorgegomez> is ubuntu 6.06
[06:58] <momal> http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/10/27/ubuntu-edgy-upgrades-a-disaster-for-many/ <--- have people seen that? hmm seems like just a case of bad luck and tries to take it all out on edgy
[06:58] <jorgegomez> yes am here
[06:58] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Ah Ok
[06:58] <jorgegomez> my Amigo
[06:58] <craig_> I did that, but I think it has something to do with my source list.
[06:58] <craig_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:58] <craig_>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Maybe your kopete needs to be updated :)
[06:58] <jorgegomez> ok how can i do that
[06:59] <DaSkreech> in kopete go Help -> about Kopete
[06:59] <jorgegomez> ok
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Tell me what version it is
[06:59] <jorgegomez> am there
[06:59] <jorgegomez> kopete KDE
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Kopete 0.10.2?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> 0.11.1?
[07:00] <jorgegomez> DUNCAN MAC-VICAR PRATT
[07:00] <DaSkreech> at the very top
[07:00] <jorgegomez> YES
[07:00] <jorgegomez> 0.11.1
[07:00] <DaSkreech> no caps please
[07:00] <jorgegomez> you right
[07:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Ok
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Press alt+space
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[07:01] <Jucato> ??
[07:01] <jorgegomez> ok
[07:01] <DaSkreech>  in the bottom right corner do you see a Red triangle with a ! in the center?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Of the screen not the bottom right of Kopete :)
[07:02] <jorgegomez> let me see
[07:02] <DaSkreech> beside the time
[07:03] <jorgegomez> no
[07:03] <BeepAU> could i get a little help? i'm new to kubuntu, but i've used ubuntu for a few months. i'm trying to get support for all the restricted formats, but apt-get tells me libxine-extracodecs isn't there. what should i install instead?
[07:03] <jorgegomez> just the time and the power off
[07:04] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > BeepAU
[07:04] <BeepAU> i've enabled multiverse
[07:04] <DaSkreech> and reloaded?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: How did you enable it by the way?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: hmm ok
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: from a konsole type this
[07:05] <BeepAU> DaSkreech -- through the adept manager
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:05] <jorgegomez> ok how i type
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: It should ask you for your password
[07:06] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: did you type in multiverse yourself?
[07:06] <jorgegomez> ok let my try
[07:06] <BeepAU> DaSkreech -- i copied and pasted it from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:06] <BeepAU> DaSkreech -- does it matter if i actually type it myself?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: Most people who don't type it themselves just enabled multiverse for backports
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Which doesn't help
[07:07] <Jucato> BeepAU: you have to type in "multiverse"
[07:07] <Jucato> I'm guessing you copied the repository for dapper-commercial
[07:07] <DaSkreech> yeah Me too
[07:07] <BeepAU> i don't believe so
[07:07] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:07] <Jucato> ok. :)
[07:08] <BeepAU> the components are 'universe multiverse'
[07:08] <christopher> I've followed every guide out there, I REALLY need some personalized sound advice for my speakers. They work but are really staticy.
[07:08] <Jucato> BeepAU: yep that one
[07:08] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: can you copy the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !pastebin > BeepAU
[07:08] <jorgegomez> is downloading the upgrades
[07:08] <kululak> Hi
[07:08] <Jucato> BeepAU: but you shouldn't have to type "universe" anymore because it's already there
[07:08] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: Alright
[07:08] <Jucato> you just have to add "multiverse" at the end.
[07:08] <kululak> I'm so new with kubumtu
[07:08] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: While we wait. Anything else you wanted to  know or get explained?
[07:09] <jorgegomez> is aking me if i want to continue <DaSkreech> >?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> say yes
[07:09] <craig_> Ubotu: I was following those instructions. It was when I got to the # apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal that it went wrong. Error: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[07:09] <DaSkreech> kululak: Welcome
[07:09] <kululak> thanks alot
[07:09] <kululak> its must be fun
[07:09] <teledyn> anyone know why my dhclient is making about 20 requests per minute?
[07:09] <Jucato> craig_: try install xorg (sudo apt-get install xorg)
[07:09] <kululak> gtg bye
[07:09] <DaSkreech> teledyn: It needs to grow up and get a job?
[07:09] <Jucato> craig_: ubotu is a bot
[07:09] <DaSkreech> kululak: Bye
[07:10] <Jucato> that was strange...
[07:10] <DaSkreech> why?
[07:10] <Jucato> "hi" -> "i'm new to kubuntu
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Yeah.
[07:10] <Jucato> "that must be fun" - "thanks a lot" - "bye"
[07:10] <Jucato> :D
[07:11] <BeepAU> whats the 'notepad' type file for kubuntu?
[07:11] <teledyn> is it troll night tonight?
[07:11] <jorgegomez> now appear this
[07:11] <jorgegomez> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:11] <jorgegomez> jorgegomez@jorgegomez:~$
[07:11] <Jucato> BeepAU: Kate is the program
[07:11] <Jucato> Notepad (XP) = Kate (Kubuntu/KDE)
[07:11] <DaSkreech> If you had just come from the world of Windows and no IRC and suddenly found out they have a button that links you to a place called Kubuntu with people all under the title of "chat" youd be babbling as well
[07:12] <DaSkreech> BeepAU: You mean the program?
[07:12] <BeepAU> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28787/
[07:12] <Jucato> DaSkreech: heheh
[07:12] <BeepAU> that's the pastebin you wanted
[07:12] <craig_> I've tried sudo apt-get upgrade xorg. Which supposedly worked, but I was still unable to complete the kubuntu desktop install. Do I still need to run the xorg install?
[07:12] <Jucato> BeepAU: you don't have the correct "multiverse"
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Jucato: can you help jorgegomez? I have to go over <------ here and do something
[07:12] <ubuntu_> Hello room
[07:12] <jorgegomez> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:12] <jorgegomez> jorgegomez@jorgegomez:~$
[07:13] <ubuntu_> Has anyone else had problems with Kubuntu and installing the nividia drivers?
[07:13] <Jucato> DaSkreech: err.. no... I would have helped him earlier if I could.. :(
[07:13] <DaSkreech> it's an apt problem right now :)
[07:13] <BeepAU> Jucato -- what do i change?
 thank you for all
[07:13] <Jucato> craig_: I think so
[07:13] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: sure
[07:13] <teledyn> DaSkreech: that explains why you're a troll?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> teledyn: Man this is like the third time  today someone thinks I'm a troll
[07:13] <Jucato> BeepAU: you're supposed to add "multiverse"  to this line "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[07:14] <DaSkreech> I'm Goblin with orc blood
[07:14] <DaSkreech>  good grief
[07:14] <Jucato> DaSkreech isn't a troll. he's a full-blooded gnome
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Gnomes are evil
[07:14] <Jucato> hehe
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Goblin's are just mischeivious :)
[07:14] <Jucato> "evil's a foot"
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ahahahaha
[07:14] <DaSkreech> teledyn: Talk to you when I get back
[07:15] <craig_> Ok I'll try the install.
[07:15] <teledyn> there's the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for non-ubuntu-related stuff
[07:15] <ubuntu_> After I installed the nividia drivers with kubuntu and rebooted I was sent to a CLI login, I was unable to load the GUI.  Any ideas?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> jorgegomez: try sudo apt-get install kopete
[07:15] <Jucato> teledyn: and #kubuntu-offtopic as well
[07:15] <Jucato> ubuntu_: you installed nvidia-glx?
[07:16] <ubuntu_> Yes Jucato
[07:16] <ubuntu_> Following the ubuntuguide.org instructions.
[07:16] <SCFan42> xsacha: I think I found something. In Edgy universe is a unichrome driver for xorg, and according to their site it should support my K8M890
[07:16] <craig_> I got the following error:
[07:16] <craig_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:16] <craig_>   xorg: Depends: xbase-clients (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:16] <craig_>         Depends: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:16] <Jucato> ubuntu_: please check if you have the correct linux-restricted-modules installed for your kernel
[07:17] <Jucato> craig_: by any chance, do you have XGL/Compiz installed?
[07:17] <xsacha> ok
[07:17] <craig_> I do.
[07:17] <ubuntu_> I added the sources.list that the guide suggested and ran an apt-get update.
[07:17] <SCFan42> Though it would be difficult to test without going all in and installing edgy
[07:17] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no you have to install it directly most of the time
[07:17] <craig_> It was being uninstalled as part of the upgrade
[07:17] <BeepAU> Jucato -- it's working now. thankyou.
[07:18] <ubuntu_> Huh.  6.10 is certainly giving me more troubles then 6/06 did.
[07:18] <Jucato> craig_: ah that seems to be the root cause of most upgrade problems with X...
[07:18] <ubuntu_> 6.06 rather
[07:18] <Jucato> ubuntu_: it's the same in Dapper as in Edgy. you need to have linux-restricted-modules installed for the drivers to work
[07:18] <craig_> Woudln't surprise me
[07:19] <ubuntu_> I guess I'm not sure what you mean then.  Is that not installed when I add all those repos and upgrade?
[07:19] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no.
[07:19] <Jucato> ubuntu_: can you give the link to that guide that you are using?
[07:19] <craig_> How do I fix the Compiz thing?
[07:19] <ubuntu_> www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:19] <SCFan42> xsacha: I'll try to install and test the package on the livecd, hopefully that'll work. If not, I'll probably stick with 6.06 for a while. Either way, thanks for helping
[07:20] <xsacha> ok
[07:20] <Jucato> ubuntu_: ok hold on while I check
[07:20] <ubuntu_> thank you
[07:20] <Jucato> ubuntu_: btw, did you upgrade to Edgy? or is this a fresh install?
[07:21] <Jucato> ubuntu_: sorry to say, that guide for NVIDIA is incomplete
[07:21] <ubuntu_> Yeah this is a fresh install
[07:21] <Jucato> ubuntu_: ah then I'm presuming that you are using the -generic kernel?
[07:21] <ubuntu_> I want to come back to linux now that there is hope the sound problem I had is fixed.
[07:22] <ubuntu_> I don't know.  I downloaded the iso, burned it, booted to it and ran install.  lol  Sorry I'm a noob.
[07:22] <Jucato> ubuntu_: could you please type "uname -r" in Konsole and tell me the output?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> 2.16.17-10
[07:23] <ubuntu_> -generic
[07:23] <DaSkreech> teledyn: ok why am I a troll?
[07:24] <Jucato> ok here's what you do. "sudo apt-get install linux-generic". this will install restricted modules and headers, etc. installing "linux-generic" will make sure that if there's an upgrade for the kernel, all (kernel, restricted modules, headers) will be upgraded too
[07:24] <Jucato> ubuntu_: ^^^
[07:24] <teledyn> DaSkreech: you're filling the channel with mindless pranter which annoys people who are using it for its intended purpose
[07:25] <teledyn> DaSkreech: join #kubuntu-offtopic if you just want the general chat please
[07:25] <Jucato> teledyn: DaSkreech has been helping in here for the past minutes.
[07:25] <ubuntu_> ok.  Well I'm on the livecd now because my gui crashed after my reboot.  I will try doing that.
[07:25] <Jucato> ubuntu_: after you do that
[07:26] <Jucato> ubuntu_: do "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[07:26] <teledyn> ok i only saw the comment he made to me
[07:26] <ubuntu_> before editing my sources or anything?
[07:27] <unix_infidel> hmm, when i do....  read $variable ; echo $variable
[07:27] <unix_infidel> i get a blank line....what am i missing?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> So statements like I'm filling the chan based off the one statement you saw makes ME a troll?
[07:27] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no. after installing "linux-generic", do the nvidia-xconfig again.
[07:27] <teledyn> "<DaSkreech> teledyn: It needs to grow up and get a job?"
[07:27] <Jucato> teledyn: and for the record, I think he was trying to make a joke
[07:27] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: read variable ; echo $variable
[07:28] <ubuntu_> ok just to clarify, I do all of this without editing my fresh installed sources.list?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> teledyn: Lol sorry :)
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Has that been fixed yet?
[07:28] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: LOL, i cant beleive i missed that.
[07:28] <teledyn> excuse me if i think it was in poor taste
[07:28] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: thanks.
[07:28] <ArrenLex> How well does apt-get dist-upgrade work for kubuntu?
[07:28] <Jucato> ubuntu_: um yes, I think. just double check that you have the "restricted" repositories enabled
[07:28] <Jucato> !upgrade | ArrenLex
[07:28] <ubotu> ArrenLex: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:29] <DaSkreech> teledyn: understandable. I won't make remarks like that to you again :)
[07:29] <ubuntu_> Ok,  Thank you for your time and help.
[07:29] <DaSkreech> ArrenLex: depends on what you are upgrading from/to
[07:29] <ubuntu_> Knowing my luck I'll be back.  lol
[07:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Please do come back
[07:29] <Jucato> ubuntu_: yes do come back if you get it to work
[07:30] <DaSkreech> teledyn: has it been fixed yet?
[07:30] <Jucato> so that we'll know :)
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Jucato: Thank you. This doesn't really apply to me, though, since I don't have the kubuntu-desktop (I have a very customised installation of only the things I need). I mean, generally, does running apt-get dist-upgrade cause any major problems?
[07:30] <ubuntu_> Well I will come back once my install is done.  It's still installing.
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: btw the tags work again now
[07:30] <Jucato> DaSkreech: debtags?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: yup
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Guess playing with them in a mid development distro doesn't make sense
[07:30] <Jucato> ArrenLex: ah. it might or might not cause problems. I think there's no other way to find out than to try... :(
[07:31] <craig_> So, regarding my xorg problem how do I sort out the Compiz problem?
[07:31] <ubuntu_> Curious, what is up with the restricted, unrestricted modules....etc.... I mean it sounds like one is legal and one is not.
[07:31] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Good eye :)
[07:31] <DaSkreech> the restricted ones are illegal
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Jucato: Okay. Thank you.
[07:31] <Jucato> DaSkreech: lol
[07:31] <ubuntu_> Legal for what?
[07:31] <Jucato> ubuntu_: no don't believe him :)
[07:32] <Jucato> !components | ubuntu_
[07:32] <ubotu> ubuntu_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:32] <DaSkreech> What? It's true :)
[07:32] <Jucato> err not that
[07:32] <Jucato> ubuntu_: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[07:32] <ubuntu_> I'm sorry if I'm asking a obvious question, I just don't understand the naming schemes.
[07:32] <notech> does kubuntu have frozen bubble?
[07:32] <Jucato> DaSkreech: restricted doesn't contain "illegal" stuff
[07:32] <DaSkreech> read the URl Jucato just gave you
[07:32] <Jucato> notech: not installed by default
[07:32] <DaSkreech> notech: I think so though they have forked it to pengupop I think
[07:32] <notech> Jucato: but is it available?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Jucato: by GPL standards it's illeagal
[07:32] <Jucato> !frozen-bubble
[07:32] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[07:33] <Jucato> notech: ^^^^^
[07:33] <notech> thanks
[07:33] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. bye GPL standards, it's non-free. but not illegal
[07:33] <DaSkreech> notech: It is we burn atl east 2% of a month playing it at work
[07:33] <Jucato> non-free != illegal
[07:33] <Jucato> of course, by RMS standards, they are immoral. :P
[07:33] <DaSkreech> bah non-free should be illegal as long as it's not absolutlely needed for it to be hidden
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Jucato: And no I don't have vrms installed :)
[07:34] <notech> DaSkreech: heh, it is a good game. thanks.
[07:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you are including a lot of stuff in multiverse as illegal :P
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Ummmm ... yeah I am :-p
[07:34] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[07:35] <Jucato> DaSkreech: and that would include your beloved Screekast
[07:35] <DaSkreech> newbie001: related to newbie007?
[07:35] <newbie001> hello?
[07:35] <Jucato> Screenkast*
[07:35] <newbie001> haha
[07:35] <newbie001> no...
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Damn.
[07:35] <newbie001> is just a name I invented
[07:35] <newbie001> :D
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Screekast should use .theora :-P
[07:36] <newbie001> Is there anyone here who can help me with some problems in an upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[07:36] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:36] <Nexus> I am currently in the process of setting up my dial up modem on Kubuntu and am having some problems. I was wondering if I could get a bit of help.
[07:36] <DaSkreech> O\another job well done
[07:36] <Nexus> Let me explain
[07:36] <Nexus> I have run through the scanModem.gz and have my text files but they aren't making a lot of sense to me.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !upgrade > newbie001
[07:37] <newbie001> here I am again... my X colapsed after I clicked the link
[07:37] <Nexus> I have been looking though the ModemData.txt file and this is what I have:
[07:37] <Nexus>  PCI slot      PCI ID   SubsystemID  Name
[07:37] <Nexus>  ----------   ---------  ---------   --------------
[07:37] <Nexus> 0000:00:1b.0  8086:27d8  1028:01d7  0403: Intel Corporation 82801G
[07:37] <Jucato> !pastebin | Nexus
[07:37] <ubotu> Nexus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !paste > Nexus
[07:37] <newbie001> (that's part of the problem :D )
[07:37] <DaSkreech> newbie001: :)
[07:38] <Nexus> ah sorry guys. I didn't know how long my post had to be to use pastebin
[07:39] <Jucato> more than 2 lines paste -> pastebin :)
[07:39] <newbie001> I don't blame ubutu for the problems... I was asking for it (I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers and xephyr to multiseat)
[07:39] <ArrenLex> I get lots of perl locale errors. How do I shut it up again? I've forgotten.
[07:39] <Nexus> ah cheers Jucato
[07:40] <Jucato> :)
[07:40] <Jucato> unfortunately, I don't know how to help you Nexus...
[07:40] <antithesis> can someone help me with this error from adept: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[07:40] <NDPTAL85> Is Ubuntu working on a GUI way of doing distro upgrades?
[07:40] <Jucato> NDPTAL85: I think Ubuntu has. Kubuntu, on the other hand, needs some work
[07:40] <newbie001> DaSkreech: last thing I did was apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[07:41] <Jucato> antithesis: what are you trying to do?
[07:41] <Nexus> !pastebin
[07:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:41] <antithesis> install ndiswrapper
[07:41] <selacey> Ahhhhhh, hello all!
[07:41] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: Adept works
[07:41] <NDPTAL85> You know I hadn't thought of that
[07:41] <Jucato> DaSkreech: not for doing dist-upgrades, at least not for Edgy...
[07:42] <NDPTAL85> I'm currently using the console method right now anyway
[07:42] <NDPTAL85> Ahh ok
[07:42] <DaSkreech> I did it from breezy to dapper
[07:42] <NDPTAL85> And I used aptitude where I could instead of apt
[07:42] <antithesis> any ideas?
[07:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I don't think it's recommended for Dapper to Edgy
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Ok
[07:42] <Jucato> antithesis: you could try installing using apt-get so that you could see what's going on
[07:42] <antithesis> i also get this error on update:
[07:42] <antithesis> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:42] <antithesis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:42] <newbie001> I used adept
[07:43] <Linux_Galore> how do you transfer mp3's to your ipod in kubuntu, yes konqueror pops up but then what
[07:43] <Jucato> !adpet crash fix
[07:43] <Nexus> Okay here we go. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28795/ This is my modemdata.txt file where do I go from here
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Linux_Galore: try amarok
[07:43] <antithesis> what do i do?
[07:43] <Jucato> !adpet crash fix
[07:44] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[07:44] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[07:44] <Linux_Galore> DaSkreech: amarok seems to do podcasts but wont work for my mp3's it spits out an error
[07:44] <antithesis> where, how?
[07:44] <MistaED> Linux_Galore: don't quote me on this, but i think konqueror supports drag n' drop of music for ipods if you access them via ipod://
[07:44] <Jucato> !adept crash fix
[07:44] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:44] <Jucato> antithesis: ^^^^^^^^^
[07:44] <Jucato> antithesis: then try installing using apt-get to see error messages
[07:44] <Linux_Galore> MistaED: drag and drop then were though
[07:44] <Jucato> I don't think there's an ipod:/ kioslave yet
[07:45] <Linux_Galore> yeah there is a kio slave for the ipod Im using it
[07:45] <Jucato> ah nice
[07:45] <Linux_Galore> just havent got a clue how to use it
[07:45] <antithesis> antithesis@antithesis01:~$ sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-utils
[07:45] <antithesis> E: Invalid operation ndiswrapper-utils
[07:45] <Jucato> antithesis: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[07:46] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: drag your mp3's from your folder in Kubuntu to the ipod:/ window?
[07:46] <Jucato> supposedly that's how kioslaves make things easier
[07:46] <antithesis> recognize that jucato
[07:47] <newbie001> I have a question conserning my recent upgrade. I can't boot using the 686/generic kernels... is anyone aware of that problem?
[07:47] <fildo> anyone here have knowledge on psybnc
[07:48] <antithesis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:48] <antithesis>   ndiswrapper-utils: Depends: ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 but it is not installable
[07:48] <antithesis> E: Broken packages
[07:48] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah Ive done that but nothing shows up
[07:48] <Linux_Galore> on the ipod
[07:48] <Nexus> I have been trying to getup my dial up modem but I don't know where to go from here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28795/ This is my modemdata.txt file where do I go from here?
[07:48] <Jucato> hm...
[07:49] <joshua__> Ok, ubuntu here.
[07:49] <joshua__> I'm back up and running.  However I must have copied that command down wrong.
[07:49] <Jucato> what command?
[07:49] <antithesis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:49] <antithesis>   ndiswrapper-utils: Depends: ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 but it is not installable
[07:49] <antithesis> E: Broken packages
[07:49] <antithesis> soirry
[07:49] <antithesis> sorry*
[07:50] <Jucato> !pastebin | antithesis
[07:50] <ubotu> antithesis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:50] <joshua__> the install restricted comand
[07:50] <antithesis> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:50] <antithesis>   ndiswrapper-utils: Depends: ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 but it is not installable
[07:50] <antithesis> E: Broken packages
[07:50] <joshua__> command
[07:50] <antithesis> damn it
[07:50] <Jucato> joshua__: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic" ?
[07:50] <antithesis> yes
[07:51] <joshua__> Yeah.  It says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove etc...
[07:51] <Jucato> antithesis: how about trying to install ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 ?
[07:51] <Jucato> joshua__: so what are you using right now?
[07:51] <Jucato> still the live cd?
[07:51] <joshua__> kubuntu installed on the HD
[07:51] <Jucato> ah... so you got the nvidia driver working?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Nexus: Were you following some walk through?
[07:52] <bLaZeD> hmm ever seince i installed edgy my mouse has been actin real weird...it somtimes wont go at sertain angles
[07:52] <joshua__> Haven't tried yet, thought you said to get that command going first.
[07:52] <bLaZeD> any way i ccan trouble shoot this?
[07:52] <antithesis> samw
[07:52] <joshua__> Still running, 2.6.17-10-generic
[07:52] <antithesis> same*
[07:52] <Jucato> joshua__: yes. but I thought you couldn't boot into Kubuntu?
[07:52] <bLaZeD> ....ive neer had any probs with my mouse and *ubuntu b4
[07:52] <newbie001> so... nobody ever heard of my problem? I reported a bug about it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68548
[07:52] <joshua__> Yeah I had to reinstall it
[07:53] <joshua__> So now it's reinstalled, factory defaults
[07:53] <flaccid> !edgy > flaccid
[07:53] <Jucato> joshua__: aah now you're talking...
[07:53] <antithesis> same problem Jucato
[07:53] <Nexus> DaSkreech, I am going by the information given to me in the KDE help center
[07:53] <flaccid> so edgy stable hehe
[07:53] <Jucato> joshua__: ok, first, check your sources.list. make sure that the "main" and "restricted" repositories are enabled
[07:53] <Jucato> flaccid: Edgy is stable as an edgy release can be :P
[07:54] <antithesis> think its my repositories
[07:54] <antithesis> ?
[07:54] <q_colon> what does the k in kubuntu stand for?
[07:54] <flaccid> hehe
[07:54] <h_colon> krap
[07:54] <newbie001> joshua__: you mean you had the same problem than me?
[07:54] <flaccid> kde
[07:54] <joshua__> Yes they are.  Universe, backports and security arent
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Nexus: Ok what's next?
[07:54] <q_colon> LOL
[07:54] <flaccid> is there any kubuntu edgy upgrade web pages?
[07:55] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[07:55] <flaccid> ie. not using gtk
[07:55] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:55] <joshua__> newbie, I'm having nvidia problems.   The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Nexus: ok
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: did I miss a memo?
[07:56] <h_colon> thank god for ubuntu, helps load balance the wannabees off of #debian!!
[07:56] <Nexus> I am not sure where to got from there though. Here is the modemData.txt file. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28795/
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Yeah I'm looking at it
[07:56] <newbie001> joshua__: ok..
[07:56] <antithesis> argggggggg
[07:56] <antithesis> this is so frustrating
[07:56] <ubuntu_> Hi..
[07:56] <joshua__> ok done
[07:56] <Jucato> antithesis: sorry, not really familiar with ndiswrapper stuff
[07:56] <Jucato> joshua__: the URL?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> q_colon: We still suck
[07:56] <q_colon> :P
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Nexus: I think that it wants to be mailed somewhere
[07:57] <joshua__> ahh I understand now....lol sorry.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28797/
[07:57] <Jucato> DaSkreech: let's just make it a policy not to feed trolls here :)
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Good point
[07:57] <h_colon> DaSkreech: =O (__|__)
[07:57] <Jucato> joshua__: ah now I see... you have to disable the cdrom repository for this to work
[07:57] <Nexus> DaSkreech: That was my first thought but it goes through and list other things.   I'm a level 9 Dwarf Priest myself.  :-p
[07:57] <DaSkreech>  When did we move from !factdio > user to !factiod | user ?
[07:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: two different commands :)
[07:58] <newbie001> what are the "held-back" packages?
[07:58] <h_colon> kubuntu has below average smp support
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Shaman Tauren
[07:58] <Jucato> > will give the info in a PM, | will shout it out loud in here
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I know but one is chan clutter
[07:58] <joshua__> Getting WoW to work on kubuntu is next.
[07:58] <joshua__> I read it's pretty easy...so I hope it is
[07:58] <DaSkreech> h_colon: Sure hope you installed a smp kernel
[07:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I like | better coz everyone gets to see that they were told. they couldn't deny not knowing about it :)
[07:59] <Jucato> joshua__: did you get what I said?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Fair enough
[07:59] <joshua__> oh
[07:59] <joshua__> sorry missed it.  I will commet that line out
[07:59] <Jucato> tsk tsk :)
[07:59] <joshua__> done
[08:00] <Jucato> joshua__: save, then sudo apt-get update
[08:00] <Jucato> then sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[08:00] <joshua__> done
[08:00] <Jucato> presuming that's the kernel that you are using?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Nexus: Good idea. Linmodems is of great interest so they would likely be the main circle for help in any case
[08:00] <joshua__> same result
[08:00] <joshua__> nothing happens.
[08:01] <Jucato> newbie001: sorry for the late reply: "held back" packages are packages that could not be upgraded or installed for some reasons
[08:01] <Nexus> cheers DaSkreech
[08:01] <Jucato> joshua__: did you "sudo apt-get update" first?
[08:01] <joshua__> yes
[08:01] <newbie001> ok...
[08:01] <newbie001> Jucato: Ok... don't worry... I noticed I'm not the only one having trouble with the upgrade
[08:01] <Jucato> hmm.. that's so impossible... :(
[08:02] <Jucato> newbie001: take comfort in the fact that you really aren't the only one :)
[08:02] <joshua__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28798/
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Strange since we can't take comfort in that :)
[08:02] <newbie001> Jucato: at this moment I'm runing Enlightment (by the way... It's not bad at all) since my kde won't work
[08:02] <q_colon> I'm interested in migrating my office off of Windows. Should I do it?
[08:02] <h_colon> Open source software has poorer levels of QA than proprietary solutions.
[08:03] <Jucato> joshua__: hm... can you "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic"?
[08:03] <hrp2171> q_colon: sure, why not?
[08:03] <abattoir> h_colon: that's not always true
[08:03] <abattoir> hey Jucato :)
[08:03] <Jucato> hi abattoir!!! :)
[08:03] <joshua__> linux-restricted-modules-generic is already the newest version.
[08:03] <abattoir> q_colon: depends on your needs, and what you work on, at your office
[08:04] <q_colon> well my isp will let me use a static IP if i try this new "protocol" thing but i dunno....
[08:04] <h_colon> IPv6 adds too much overhead to be commercially viable.
[08:04] <Jucato> joshua__: then you probably have it already installed.
[08:04] <hrp2171> q_colon: i just nuked windows xp off my home desktop and laptop.  buh-bye xp!
[08:04] <joshua__> Thats what it says it seems.
[08:04] <DaSkreech> h_colon: Just checking are you a bot spitting random statements?
[08:04] <Jucato> joshua__: hm... just to double check "aptitude search linux-restricted-modules-generic" and see if there's an "i" at the far left
[08:05] <joshua__> yes there is an "i"
[08:05] <Jucato> ah good. it's installed then
[08:05] <h_colon> DaSkreech: Python scales up for large projects better than Perl.
[08:05] <hrp2171> lol
[08:05] <Jucato> joshua__: now you can install nvidia-glx, do sudo nvidia-xconfig, and be on your way
[08:06] <hrp2171> if i were to dist-upgrade to edgy, will i lose the LTS status of 6.06?
[08:06] <joshua__> To go back, I can use the instructions on ubuntuguide.org to install it?
[08:06] <unix_infidel> hrp2171: of course, they are totally different.
[08:06] <Jucato> hrp2171: basically, yes... Edgy will just be supported for 18 months
[08:06] <hrp2171> then im sticking with 6.06
[08:07] <Jucato> joshua__: just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[08:07] <DaSkreech> h_colon: Hungary exports more hippos than any other contemporary European country
[08:07] <noir> edgy is faster than dapper and much more streamline in apperance
[08:07] <Jucato> hrp2171: LTS of course doesn't mean you'll get the latest versions. it just means 3 years support for security and essential updates
[08:07] <joshua__> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[08:07] <q_colon> I tried to install kubuntu, but i get C:\Docume~1\local\> 'apt-get' command not found. What gives?
[08:07] <joshua__> Thats what the guide says.
[08:08] <h_colon> You need the -t experimental flag for kubuntu.
[08:08] <hrp2171> wow, linux has come a long ways. and thanks to wine, i don't have to give up my Steam games. Woohoo!!!
[08:08] <DaSkreech> q_colon: Are you doing this from inside Windows?
[08:08] <Jucato> joshua__: afaik, nvidia-kernel-common would have been installed together with linux-generic anyway
[08:08] <Jucato> lol ;)
[08:08] <Jucato> DaSkreech: do not feed :)
[08:08] <Jucato> wb mangz74 :)
[08:09] <noir> wine is the reason I still dual boot
[08:09] <joshua__> ok sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx has been run.  Now onto the config
[08:09] <hrp2171> noir: why?
[08:09] <mangz74> ey thanks
[08:09] <Jucato> joshua__: good luck! :)
[08:09] <shogouki> damn i've lauched edgy update just before night and nothing had been installed cause of the install flach question -_-
[08:09] <noir> hrp because wine is tuff to configure
[08:10] <joshua__> ok
[08:10] <joshua__> says the new X configuration file written to /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[08:10] <q_colon> how can I get my broadcom wifi nic to work under kubuntu?? ndis-something, right?
[08:10] <noir> and i find it easyer to have a small xp partition just in case theres any game I wish to play
[08:10] <h_colon> No, you need to run wine to run windows XP, manage your broadcom within XP's built in manager (like kwifi), then use cygwin to run kubuntu and you're set
[08:10] <Jucato> joshua__: yes. that's normal
[08:10] <joshua__> now how can I check?
[08:10] <Jucato> joshua__: restart X
[08:10] <hrp2171> not in kubuntu. i just installed it thru adept and off i went.  didnt have to config anything.
[08:11] <q_colon> :P
[08:11] <joshua__> glxgears still looks damn slow and skipping.
[08:11] <hrp2171> im so glad i kept this machine
[08:11] <Jucato> joshua__: you have to restart X
[08:11] <crim> doesnt kununtu come with firefox 2.0?
[08:11] <hrp2171> crim: nope
[08:11] <Jucato> crim: no. Ubuntu does. but you can install it
[08:11] <noir> oh... well i'm new to kubuntu I've been useing ubuntu for ages but I've never tried kde before tonight
[08:12] <shogouki> doesnt ff2 released after edgy ?
[08:12] <crim> do i have to go to the firefox website or is there some automated thing i can use
[08:12] <crim> this is my first half hour with kubuntu
[08:12] <Jucato> shogouki: FF2 was released hours before Edgy
[08:12] <q_colon> what about frame rate reporting with glxgears?????????????
[08:12] <h_colon> you need the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag
[08:12] <abattoir> crim: you have edgy?
[08:12] <crim> i love kde and would rather support this than ubuntu
[08:12] <joshua__> WOOHOO!!!!!
[08:12] <Jucato> crim: you can download it from the repositories
[08:12] <shogouki> crim: great new user experiences doesnt it ?
[08:12] <abattoir> crim: then use konqueror ;)
[08:12] <newbie001> I got this problem while doing the upgrade http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28800/
[08:12] <Jucato> abattoir: hehe :)
[08:12] <abattoir> crim: 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[08:13] <q_colon> all right you guys are clearly not ready for this
[08:13] <noir> I thought ice weasle was comming out as a replasement for fire fox due to copyright issues
[08:13] <hrp2171> i looked at xpde and it made me sick looking at the screenshots.  LOL
[08:13] <abattoir> crim: that should get you firefox rc3(i think), which would update itself to 2
[08:13] <q_colon> i'm taking it to #debian
[08:13] <joshua__> ctrl-alt-backspace which I actually remembered from somewhere.  I saw the nivida splash and the gui restarted
[08:13] <abattoir> or did 2 make it into edgy?
[08:13] <joshua__> glxgears is running fast and smooth
[08:13] <h_colon> what does /disco lights do?
[08:13] <crim> thanks abattoir
[08:13] <DaSkreech> o_O
[08:13] <joshua__> I know it's not a test of performance but it's all I know to do to see if it's installed.
[08:13] <crim> the kubuntu team should really incorperate firefox as default
[08:14] <crim> only flaw i see with this OS
[08:14] <Jucato> I'm so tempted to call the ops...
[08:14] <hrp2171> crim: licensing issues
[08:14] <h_colon> anybody? I get weird colors in bitchx when i do /disco lights
[08:14] <abattoir> crim: hehe, that's one contentious issue :)
[08:14] <Jucato> crim: why? we have Konqueror
[08:14] <shogouki> or iceweasel by default :p
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Katapult ftw
[08:14] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hehe!
[08:14] <abattoir> crim: some people would swear by konqueror, including me :)
[08:14] <noir> I'm not a fan of konqueror
[08:14] <crim> problem is some websites dont work well with konqueror
[08:14] <Jucato> I swear by Konqueror, with firefox or swiftfox behind my back :P
[08:14] <joshua__> Firefox wants ubuntu to pass along all upgrades to them before the roll em out and that goes against the open sourceness
[08:14] <DaSkreech> abattoir: some people sweat at konqueror
[08:14] <newbie001> what's the best way to spend a friday night: trolling on some random IRC
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Like me :)
[08:14] <joshua__> At least thats what I read.
[08:14] <abattoir> hehe
[08:14] <hrp2171> i would use konqueror, but got attached to FF from my windows days
[08:15] <h_colon> :P
[08:15] <Jucato> ok let's not go into a browser war please
[08:15] <Ant1> I have just install fglrx but when I launch glxgear or fgl_glxgears I have this error:
[08:15] <Ant1> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:15] <crim> i thought ubantu and kubuntu were part of the same organization
[08:15] <joshua__> Is Kconqueror better then firefox?
[08:15] <hrp2171> lol sorry jucato
[08:15] <h_colon> the k in konqueror stands for krap
[08:15] <crim> why can ubantu get firefox as default
[08:15] <Ant1> Someone know why?
[08:15] <crim> and not kubuntu
[08:15] <DaSkreech> joshua__: please don't start that
[08:15] <Jucato> joshua__: "better" is subjective
[08:15] <h_colon> iceweasel > * your base
[08:15] <abattoir> crim: it is, just like ubuntu has gnome by default, and kubuntu kde, it's firefox and konq.
[08:15] <Jucato> crim: because they have no other browser to use
[08:15] <joshua__> Thank you for all your help jucato.  You made a 79 year old very happy tonight!
[08:15] <kumsy>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY panneer
[08:15] <Jucato> joshua__: no problem
[08:15] <joshua__> Didn't mean to start a debate, just a general question.
[08:16] <hrp2171> wow, 79! awesome!
[08:16] <h_colon> nice kumsy
[08:16] <abattoir> joshua__: you both extensively, and then make your choice if you want to make one ;)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> 2 points to anyone who can figure out xpenguins
[08:16] <Jucato> s/you/use
[08:16] <h_colon> 79? no wonder you want a slow debian knockoff
[08:16] <abattoir> thanks Jucato :)
[08:16] <crim> IMO kubuntu is great, but to expand the fanbase they should include firefox as default for begginers
[08:16] <DaSkreech> joshua__: is better is almost always subjective
[08:16] <crim> i think its better than ubuntu
[08:16] <h_colon> crim: firefox is not free
[08:17] <crim> and for those familliar with windows KDE is the better desktop envirement
[08:17] <h_colon> wake up
[08:17] <Jucato> crim: like I said, that's something personal/subjective
[08:17] <shogouki> h_colon: well, it is
[08:17] <abattoir> crim: that's not going to happen anytime soon....(hopefully) :P
[08:17] <joshua__> I agress with ya DaSkreech
[08:17] <h_colon> repeat FAILFUX is NOT free
[08:17] <h_colon> both the logo and name are protected
[08:17] <Jucato> again, I'm asking everyone not to go into browser wars here
[08:17] <h_colon> wikipedia iceweasel douchebag
[08:17] <hrp2171> :)
[08:17] <h_colon> it is not free
[08:18] <shogouki> code is under gpl ...
[08:18] <abattoir> h_colon: please mind the words
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !coc > h_colon
[08:18] <Jucato> h_colon: enough
[08:18] <h_colon> ok
[08:18] <rikai> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[08:18] <rikai> ;)
[08:18] <h_colon> <-- sorry
[08:18] <crim> this OS blows me away, ive been a long time slackware user
[08:18] <joshua__> Please excuse me tpos.  I'm not use to this wireless keyboard I just received.
[08:18] <crim> and now i can finally recomend a OS for inexperianced users
[08:18] <joshua__> I hear about iceweasel on the Buzz Out Loud podcast.
[08:18] <hrp2171> crim: wow, me too! i slacked up until 10.2
[08:18] <dennister> g'evening all
[08:18] <crim> but an unfamilliar web browser will throw people off
[08:18] <Jucato> evening dennister
[08:18] <crim> hehe hrp i hear u bro
[08:19] <DaSkreech> h_colon: You get your point across a lot faster and the effect lasts longer if you are civil
[08:19] <crim> 11.0 is good too
[08:19] <Jucato> crim: you'd be surprised, that's not always true
[08:19] <h_colon> there might be iceweasel hacks to make it look like firefox and rename the binary command
[08:19] <DaSkreech> crim: recommend this room ::))
[08:19] <jiger> does anyone know ip address of packages.freecontrib.org. it in't working and am unable to upgrade to edgy?
[08:19] <joshua__> I have to say you folks are very helpful and knowledgeable.
[08:19] <h_colon> DaSkreech: i love this "room"
[08:19] <crim> but i just dont have the time to spend configuring
[08:19] <Jucato> jiger: it's down, afaik
[08:19] <h_colon> reminds me of my AOHell days
[08:19] <crim> oh i will
[08:19] <dennister> does anyone know when iceweasel will be ready on the repositories?
[08:19] <crim> this room is great
[08:19] <crim> u guys put up with a noob
[08:19] <hrp2171> with kids and family to deal with, i wanted a geeks' distro that wouldn't require much work if any: kubuntu!
[08:19] <jiger> Jucato: know any alternates?
[08:19] <crim> and not a single flame
[08:19] <crim> which i cant express enough appreciation
[08:19] <Jucato> jiger: what are you trying to do?
[08:20] <newbie001> DaSkreech: I'm having trouble with the instructions you gave me
[08:20] <crim> i will idle here from now on
[08:20] <DaSkreech> newbie001: Ok
[08:20] <DaSkreech> These being?
[08:20] <crim> and am a new convert from xp/slackware to kubuntu
[08:20] <crim> am really impressed with this OS
[08:20] <hrp2171> :D
[08:20] <jiger> Jucato: apt-get update and upgrade
[08:20] <DaSkreech> crim: Oh no you didn't!
[08:20] <newbie001> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28800/
[08:20] <dennister> it is a good os, and a good room
[08:20] <Jucato> jiger: do you need something from the freecontrib repository?
[08:20] <jiger> upgrading dapper to edgy
[08:20] <DaSkreech> xp slash slackware?
[08:20] <dennister> i have to agree with u crim