[02:50] <ykrs> this is great. i still cant believe. i came from gentoo... my older system took 4 days to compile itself... ubuntu in less than 50min was completely configured... i still can believe
[02:50] <keyshawn> vladuz976, there's ubuntu-pr
[02:50] <vidz> You can only make shell scripts run as root with sudo. It's a security feature of bash
[02:50] <kanamor> nalioth aah okis, thx 8)
[02:50] <nalioth> anyone know about lm-sensor beeps?  >>>see kanamor
[02:50] <nalioth> kanamor: uno momento
[02:50] <keyshawn> and try www.ubuntu-br.org
[02:50] <vladuz976> keyshawn: what is pr?
[02:50] <keyshawn> that's a brazilian ubuntu site.
[02:50] <pepsix> i want tvtime to run as root, but i dont want to have to sudo
[02:50] <vladuz976> keyshawn: sorry no portugese here
[02:50] <keyshawn> pr, as far as i can tell, is portugeuse [sp?]
[02:50] <cafuego> ykrs: Virtually all sane distros just install without recompiling everything needlessly.
[02:50] <kanamor> nalioth ok, thx again
[02:51] <keyshawn> its another channel
[02:51] <jsmidt> Every time I run apt-get update I get this message:
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricte d_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricte d_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:51] <pepsix> woah
[02:51] <jsmidt> It then says:
[02:51] <jsmidt> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:51] <jsmidt> But this problem happens every time I run apt-get update. Does anybody know what this problem is or how to fix it?
[02:51] <ykrs> cafuego: yes, but none so far auto-configured itself, at least for me
[02:51] <nalioth> jsmidt: please use #flood for that
[02:51] <josh__> I tried to install stuff like mplayer-k6 but this, like many other things, seemed to depend on stuff with md5 sums.
[02:51] <GnuKemist> I need to pass some command to my AMD64 (fresh install) during the initial prompt... can someone gimme a hand, please?
[02:51] <nalioth> jsmidt: yes, the us repos are wonky
[02:51] <josh__> Ah.
[02:51] <TokenBad> is the OSS sound system installed by default in ubuntu
[02:51] <nalioth> jsmidt: edit your sources.list to remove the us. in us.archive.blah
[02:51] <josh__> So... is that a long standing thing?
[02:52] <keyshawn> vladuz976, got it under control ?
[02:52] <cafuego> GnuKemist: Hit 'e' at that initial prompt, then add your param.
[02:52] <nalioth> jsmidt: then try again
[02:52] <vladuz976> keyshawn: no
[02:52] <GnuKemist> cafuego, thanx... will try it
[02:52] <jsmidt> thanks nalioth
[02:52] <nalioth> josh__: yes same thing, edit your sources.list
[02:52] <cafuego> GnuKemist: ... or is it at the installer prompt?
[02:52] <vladuz976> GnuKemist: -de for german and -jp for japanese?
[02:52] <Danar> what do i need to install to play wmv?
[02:52] <GnuKemist> cafuego, yup
[02:52] <freddy_> nalioth ;)
[02:52] <ykrs> gnukemist: whats your video card?
[02:52] <GnuKemist> ykrs, NVidia 5200
[02:52] <keyshawn> vladuz976, im sorry, its ubuntu-pt
[02:52] <ykrs> gnukemist: my other system, a amd64 had serious issues with a radeon
[02:52] <nalioth> Danar: w32codecs, but don't hold your breath for anything made by wmp9 or 10
[02:52] <cafuego> GnuKemist: On the cd, just type 'linux-2.6 <your params>'
[02:52] <GnuKemist> vladuz976, huh?
[02:53] <keyshawn> or ubuntu-br
[02:53] <Danar> thx
[02:53] <ykrs> gnukemist: should be fine
[02:53] <GnuKemist> vladuz976, oh... s'ok... I speak EN too
[02:53] <vladuz976> keyshawn: -pt is gonna do me no good
[02:53] <jtan325> when you do  "connect to server" using the default gnome panel, you get a nice little icon on your desktop for later use. does anyone know what the command-line equivalent of that is?
[02:53] <cafuego> ykrs: yes, ATI and AMD64 don't really mix well.
[02:53] <Danar> nalioth, no installation candidate
[02:53] <vladuz976> GnuKemist: good to know
[02:53] <GnuKemist> cafuego, my problem is the HD
[02:53] <GnuKemist> vladuz976, ;)
[02:53] <nalioth> Danar: you need to enable backports for this thing (then disable after you've gotten them)
[02:53] <ykrs> cafuego: so it seems... kde thought managed to get past it. kubuntu there.
[02:53] <nalioth> !backports
[02:53] <ubotu> well, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:54] <ykrs> cafuego: dont ask me how.
[02:54] <GnuKemist> cafuego, for some reason I always need to use hdparm before installing
[02:54] <ykrs> tough* sorry
[02:54] <keyshawn> yeah, ubuntu definitely needs to work on multilingual support [in the forums, etc]  if they really want it to be universal :)
[02:54] <cafuego> GnuKemist: Chipset too new
[02:54] <GnuKemist> cafuego, indeed
[02:54] <keyshawn> [at least provide links to other forums which can be in diff. langs]
[02:54] <cafuego> GnuKemist: See if you get the latest kernel.
[02:54] <Danar> nalioth, how? is that the only way to play wmv?
[02:55] <nalioth> Danar: afaik, yes
[02:55] <ykrs> gnukemist: is it a SATA hd?
[02:55] <keyshawn> howdy - can someone remind me where the log for apt-get errors is located ?
[02:55] <nalioth> Danar: you might try using vlc, it has native support for lots of files
[02:55] <GnuKemist> cafuego, so do you think I can do this at the install prompt: linux-2.6 hdparm -d 1 -A 1 -m 16 -u 1 -a 64 /dev/hda?
[02:55] <cafuego> Danar: What did you think the 'W'in wmv stood for? ;-)
[02:55] <GnuKemist> ykrs, nope
[02:55] <nalioth> Danar: but the codecs will allow your whole system to access win32 things
[02:55] <cafuego> GnuKemist: No
[02:55] <cafuego> GnuKemist: hdparm isn available in the installer.
[02:56] <Danar> nalioth, not worried about that right now. i'm on the livecd
[02:56] <GnuKemist> cafuego, oh boy
[02:56] <Danar> cafuego, i know :p
[02:56] <ykrs> gnukemist, do you have access to another HD? you could clone the HD later, with some third party tool
[02:57] <GnuKemist> cafuego, that works under Gentoo... maybe I could run it via the "Execute a shell" menu?
[02:57] <GnuKemist> ykrs, don't have one
[02:57] <carl> if the perms files on a CD are 700, some mystry user/group - how do I mount it so the local user can read the files?
[02:57] <Danar> vlc didn't work
[02:57] <ykrs> gnukemist, on gentoo you already have a prompt, on ubuntu during install youe not under bash yet
[02:57] <carl> if I try to CD into a dir on it i get " Permission denied"
[02:57] <nalioth> Danar: then its w32codecs, via the backports
[02:58] <jsmidt> does anybody know what this problem is:
[02:58] <nalioth> Danar: or you can download them from www.mplayerhq.hu
[02:58] <jsmidt> Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages
[02:58] <jsmidt>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:58] <pepsix> ok, so chmod +s sets the SUID bit
[02:58] <cafuego> GnuKemist: No, coz you'd *still* need to actually have the hdparm command available on the cd, and it isn't afaik.
[02:58] <nalioth> jsmidt: means your apt hiccupped, try it again
[02:58] <jsmidt> thank you
[02:58] <GnuKemist> ykrs, actually am at a point after some files have been copied to HD...  it worked here...
[02:59] <cafuego> pepsix: yes. it's not normally a good idea to use that willy-nilly
[02:59] <GnuKemist> cafuego, been able to do it after borking during file copying
[02:59] <pepsix> cafuego, i know... i wanted to do it with this program though
[02:59] <supernix> what is the difference between the regular packages and those marked universe ?
[02:59] <cafuego> GnuKemist: You can check alt-F2 (new console) and see if it's there
[03:00] <pepsix> it needs to access the realtime clock with high precision
[03:00] <ykrs> gnukemist, do you have access to a floppy drive? you could copy hdparm and mount the floppy later then
[03:00] <ykrs> (if it fits)
[03:00] <cafuego> pepsix: Maybe better to setgid it and fix the permissions on /dev/trc
[03:00] <cafuego> rtc too
[03:00] <GnuKemist> cafuego, gotcha...
[03:00] <pepsix> hrm
[03:00] <Velcan> ah crap ... i gone screwed something up o_O .... when i got to open synaptic i get this error with both my password or the root password - 'Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[03:00] <Velcan>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.'
[03:00] <learn25> Hello everybody
[03:00] <GnuKemist> ykrs, don't think I have any floppies around...
[03:01] <learn25> help please...
[03:01] <tats`away> goddamn it took almost 14mins an xchat froze to uninstall OOo
[03:01] <TokenBad> how install OSS?
[03:01] <Danar> you can get it with deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ hoary main
[03:01] <pepsix> cafuego, if i run `sysctl -w dev.rtc.max-user-freq=1024` i dont need it to run as root, but id need to run that on every boot
[03:01] <learn25> what is the default directory of my vsftpd? i want to configure it.
[03:01] <cafuego> tats`away: For future reference, the cd also has an option to do a minimal install ;-)
[03:01] <tats`away> sigh
[03:01] <tats`away> ya i know that cafuego
[03:01] <thr1ce> Danar, what's that for?
[03:01] <tats`away> its a server install w/no X iirc
[03:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[03:02] <tats`away> now i just need a decent little wordprocessor
[03:02] <learn25> what is the default directory of my vsftpd? i want to configure it.
[03:02] <learn25> help
[03:02] <cafuego> pepsix: Just add that to /etc/sysctl.conf
[03:02] <Danar> thr1ce, not sure what all is in there but you can get w32codecs from it
[03:02] <tats`away> on damn small linux i use FLWriter or pathetic write but neither seems to exist in ubuntu
[03:02] <thr1ce> learn25, search man
[03:02] <learn25> how?
[03:02] <pepsix> cafuego, thanks :D so helpful
[03:02] <thr1ce> Danar, aah, gotcha =\
[03:02] <thr1ce> locate vsftpd ?
[03:02] <thr1ce> sudo locate*
[03:02] <Velcan> anyone have any ideas as to why the system cannot copy my Xauthorization file?
[03:03] <pepsix> because its owned by root maybe
[03:03] <pepsix> fix that
[03:03] <Velcan> it's owned by me
[03:03] <pepsix> oh fun
[03:03] <pepsix> i had a problem with that cause root owned it
[03:03] <jtan325> asnyone know how to do the equivalent of "connect to server" from the command line?
[03:03] <Velcan> i wess messing around with permissions when it happed
[03:04] <pepsix> do you own the parent dir?
[03:04] <jtan325> nautilus-connect-to-server brings up the window, but there doesn't seem to be any options for it
[03:04] <Danar> nalioth, i installed w32codecs but i still can't play it
[03:04] <benkong2> hello
[03:04] <jtan325> i.e. i have to type it in. i want to emulate the behavior done from the icons placed on your dektop, from the command line
[03:04] <nalioth> Danar: did you restart your player, and is it a wmv3 datatype?
[03:04] <Velcan> and to make sure as root i did chown -R matthew:matthew /home/matthew && chmod -R 755 /home/matthew
[03:05] <Danar> nalioth, yep
[03:05] <benkong2> got a question about hostname and domain name when installing qmail. could someone help?
[03:05] <GnuKemist> cafuego, got the same error again... "Input/Output error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc"
[03:05] <nalioth> Danar: if its wmv3 you are most likely out of luck
[03:05] <Danar> [00000283]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'.
[03:05] <Danar> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[03:05] <TokenBad> anyone?
[03:05] <GnuKemist> jtan325, which program?
[03:05] <Danar> nalioth, why's that?
[03:06] <spermie_> i know this is a stupid question to you all, but do any of you use a snes emulator, if so whats it called ?
[03:06] <Danar> spermie_, zsnes
[03:06] <jtan325> GnuKemist, nautilus
[03:06] <Quest-Master> Zsnes, spermie_
[03:06] <Velcan> yea zsnes
[03:06] <nalioth> Danar: b/c uncle bill has kept his codecs well hidden
[03:06] <Quest-Master> spermie_.. just curious.. why do you have that name?
[03:06] <jtan325> GnuKemist, you know how after you do a "connect to server" successfully, nautilus places an icon on your desktop?
[03:06] <benkong2> if my dyndns address is benkong2.ath.cx is that my fqdn? the name of my nix box is tuxserver is that my hostname?
[03:06] <pepsix> Velcan, i think i just deleted my .Xauthority file when i had problems with it
[03:06] <GnuKemist> jtan325, yup... lemme think
[03:06] <jtan325> GnuKemist, I would like to know what's the command that actually gets executed wehn i click on that icon
[03:06] <TokenBad> found out in hurry now to do apt-cache search oss
[03:07] <TokenBad> so how can install it?
[03:07] <nalioth> Danar: wmv is windows media video (and the latest versions of wmv havent been reverse engineered yet)
[03:07] <DekaPink> Hey... I'm trying to install the ATI proprietary driver... and it keeps saying this to me when I try to run the install: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/481
[03:07] <Velcan> i'll try that ... i'll rename it to something else
[03:07] <GnuKemist> cafuego, did u get a chance to read my msg?
[03:07] <Danar> nalioth, didn't realize wmv3 was the latest version
[03:07] <spermie_> Danar so i would do : sudo apt-get install zsnes
[03:07] <Danar> spermie_, yep
[03:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok that program for gnome that background changer
[03:08] <Danar> spermie_, if it's not there, make sure you enable multiverse repository
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> dosen't work while x has a bacgrounf
[03:08] <spermie_> spermie@Spermie:~$  sudo apt-get install zsnes
[03:08] <Danar> spermie_, if it's still not there, check zsnes.com
[03:08] <thr1ce> no, zsnes should be
[03:08] <Danar> spermie_, nvm. it's there
[03:09] <Velcan> ima try rebooting
[03:09] <bimberi> Hi all.  What's the url for Seveas' script to set up fstab for Windows/Mac partitions?
[03:09] <hou5ton> anyone here have any luck with syncing a treo 650
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , why is it that when using that background changeing program that i can only see the results after gnome is logging out?
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's like it puts the image behind the gnome wallpapaer
[03:09] <Danar> spermie_, FYI: it'll save yer stuff in ~/.zsnes
[03:10] <thr1ce> any good site for snes roms ?
[03:10] <DekaPink> For some reason it doesn't want to recognize ./ anymore.
[03:10] <Danar> thr1ce, shouldn't be asking that ;)
[03:10] <thr1ce> Danar, they're legal, assuming the user owns the games he's downloading
[03:10] <aerich> can someone help? can't seem to install ubuntu, screen goes blank after i press enter (on flatpanel or crt monitor) and even if i use framebuffer=false
[03:10] <vidz> thr1ce: Use limewire
[03:11] <DekaPink> Anyone know why it might be doing that? :)
[03:11] <jtan325> GnuKemist, any ideas?
[03:11] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i'm not sure at all
[03:11] <Hentai> is there a ubuntu live CD?
[03:11] <nalioth> ask and run
[03:11] <nalioth> Hentai: yes there is
[03:11] <Danar> Hentai, i'm on it
[03:11] <Hentai> ok
[03:12] <Danar> Hentai, comes with the install cd if you order it
[03:12] <phzi> anyone have experience with .asoundrc configuration for use with multiple cards (duplicate stereo)?
[03:13] <GnuKemist> jtan325, am checking... nothing so far
[03:13] <Hentai> Danar err ok
[03:13] <phzi> I am trying to get the same stereo output to play across several hardware outputs (3 to be exact)
[03:13] <aerich_> sorry d/c
[03:13] <aerich_> so can anyone help?
[03:13] <Hentai> theres gonna have to be something about ubuntu to keep me using it
[03:13] <phzi> what's wrong aerich?
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know about chgb ?
[03:14] <phzi> Hentai: I switched from windows
[03:14] <phzi> because I liked ubuntu so much
[03:14] <vladuz976> what do you do when your girlfriend get's mad at you coz you spend too much time on the computer?
[03:14] <nalioth> Hentai: Danar is pointing out the the free CDs you are shipped are attractively packed in pairs, one live, one install
[03:14] <tats`away> hm whats ubuntu-base bad to remove ? i presume so?
[03:14] <nalioth> Hentai: for ppc, i386 or amd64
[03:14] <Ramiro> hola
[03:14] <{J}tatiana> hm
[03:14] <vladuz976> Hentai: is that a japanese name :-)
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone?
[03:14] <{J}tatiana> shrug
[03:15] <Ramiro> alguien que hable en espaol?
[03:15] <{J}tatiana> try #ubuntu-es Ramiro
[03:15] <Hentai> well its japanese
[03:15] <cafuego> Hentai: If you stop, we'll come and break your legs.
[03:15] <vladuz976> Hentai: ARE YOU?
[03:15] <holycow> vladuz976, i dare you to google said japanese name
[03:15] <holycow> -_-
[03:15] <Ramiro> oki gracias tatiana
[03:15] <{J}tatiana> np Ramiro
[03:15] <phzi> vladuz976: you being serious?
[03:15] <Hentai> what cafuego?
[03:15] <vladuz976> phzi: yes
[03:15] <vladuz976> holycow: i didn't
[03:15] <cafuego> Hentai: You said you needed a reason to keep Ubuntu.
[03:15] <phzi> vladuz976: you stop using the computer so much, and try having sex
[03:15] <Hentai> oh lol
[03:16] <phzi> or just try 'cuddling', you might even enjoy it
[03:16] <vladuz976> holycow: my girlfriend calls me that
[03:16] <senseless> i just installed the msttcorefonts, and it says they are installed, but they are not listed anywhere
[03:16] <{J}tatiana> cuddlings good heh
[03:16] <vladuz976> phzi: is that what she wants when she says that
[03:16] <phzi> ya
[03:16] <phzi> probably wants you to have nothing to do, so you pay attention to her
[03:17] <phzi> just random acts of cuddling work well
[03:17] <phzi> only has to last 30 seconds
[03:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[03:17] <phzi> :P
[03:17] <{J}tatiana> rmes @ philips
[03:17] <{J}tatiana> oops phzi
[03:17] <cafuego> phzi: That's what cats are for.
[03:17] <{J}tatiana> remind me to never be your gf heh
[03:17] <phzi> meh, I've spent the last two days on my computer
[03:17] <phzi> and my girlfriend comes and curls up on my lap once and a while
[03:18] <phzi> it's enough attention to keep her happy
[03:18] <holycow> is your gf's name fluffy?
[03:18] <{J}tatiana> your gf must only date geeks to be so happy ;P
[03:18] <cafuego> phzi: So your girlfriend *is* a cat eh
[03:18] <holycow> inquiring minds want to know
[03:18] <holycow> >_>
[03:18] <phzi> lol
[03:18] <vladuz976> phzi: you lucky bastard
[03:18] <cafuego> bimberi: Hmm, that gets me slapped
[03:18] <phzi> she sure is acting like a cat, now that you mention
[03:18] <cafuego> BeefTube even
[03:18] <holycow> c'mon thats funnny!
[03:18] <holycow> damn, tought crowd
[03:18] <holycow> *cough*
[03:19] <phzi> lol
[03:19] <vladuz976> phzi: holycow your nick is almost as good as Hentai
[03:19] <phzi> lol
[03:19] <holycow> if your into that kinda thing, sure
[03:19] <cafuego> phzi: try a bowl of fish heads.
[03:19] <cafuego> phzi: if she goes for it, she *might* not be a human
[03:19] <glyph_> where can i find xlib and xfree86?
[03:19] <Velcan> lol ... it was because my drive filled up in transferring that gobs of info off an ntfs drive <crys>
[03:19] <phzi> I'm pretty happy with myself right now
[03:20] <phzi> I did a fresh install of ubuntu for the first time two days ago
[03:20] <{J}tatiana> fresh cuz it was starting to smell ?
[03:20] <phzi> and I have my dual header working (bought a new NV card because my ATI sucked)
[03:20] <{J}tatiana> :)
[03:20] <vladuz976> phzi: what did u have before?
[03:20] <cafuego> glyph_: Ubuntu uses xorg, not xfree86
[03:20] <senseless> noone has an answer?
[03:20] <glyph_> help??
[03:20] <phzi> winblows and gentoo
[03:20] <shortcircuit> can someone help me with a usb error? i cant mount my ipod and this is the error from dmesg: can't set config #1, error -71
[03:20] <phzi> but I could never get gentoo configged the way I liked it
[03:20] <glyph_> ah well can i get it to add?
[03:20] <phzi> now, it's so beautiful
[03:20] <vladuz976> phzi: didn't like gentoo?
[03:20] <phzi> I did
[03:21] <cafuego> glyph_: apt-get install x-window-system
[03:21] <glyph_> thx
[03:21] <phzi> not as much as ubuntu
[03:21] <sdeppert> hey every one I'm trying to install unreal 2004 on my computer and I cant get the installer to work does anyone have any ideas on how to make it work?
[03:21] <phzi> I love debian style package managment
[03:21] <thr1ce> sdeppert, cd into the mount DIR
[03:21] <Aegir> apt rawks :D
[03:21] <Danar> senseless, in synaptic, click the package, click properties and check the installed files tab
[03:21] <BeefTube> gentoo needs automated installer
[03:21] <{J}tatiana> virgule = comma in french.. how odd
[03:21] <thr1ce> then sh install.sh or whatever
[03:21] <cafuego> gentoo needs to go away and die
[03:21] <phzi> lol BeefTube: it wouldn't be gentoo then
[03:21] <phzi> the whole point of gentoo, is that's it the 'from-source' distro
[03:22] <regeya> indeed
[03:22] <senseless> Danar, everything i want seems to be installed
[03:22] <BeefTube> yea it would advance to genthree
[03:22] <shortcircuit> i love emerege but i never liked the gentoo instability
[03:22] <phzi> anyone here using a SB Live 24-bit?
[03:22] <regeya> plus that garbage of some packages having different compile-time options
[03:22] <phzi> emerge is cool, but honestly, I prefer apt-gt
[03:22] <NeoGeo64> im about to wipe my computer and install just ubuntu
[03:22] <virgule> {J}tatiana: i got that nick from a workmate ;)
[03:22] <regeya> gentoo can be stable, but it's about as exciting as debian stable
[03:22] <cafuego> shortcircuit: Liar it's got higher version numbers so it's got more stable lololrxz!!!
[03:22] <{J}tatiana> heh cool
[03:22] <shortcircuit> yea
[03:22] <BeefTube> i broke my ubuntu
[03:22] <glyph_> i got this in place of the install sequence package x-windows-system has no insallation candidate

[03:23] <shortcircuit> lol
[03:23] <regeya> it's possible to break ubuntu
[03:23] <DekaPink> I apparently broke my ubuntu. o.O
[03:23] <regeya> lord knows I try
[03:23] <phzi> lol
[03:23] <phzi> how can you break linux?
[03:23] <phzi> you can always fix the configs
[03:23] <cafuego> regeya: No, actually I didn't know.
[03:23] <BeefTube> you guys see my pictures I made in blender?
[03:23] <BeefTube> http://www.elysiun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=444501#444501
[03:23] <glyph_> changed a zero to a one eh?
[03:23] <phzi> unless you like..... really really screw up and delete /bin or something
[03:23] <holycow> hosing linux is fairly simple
[03:23] <regeya> cafeuego: :P
[03:23] <Danar> i broke debian, so i'm switching to ubuntu :p
[03:23] <DekaPink> I don't know what's going on but it doesn't recognize ./ for like... running stuff. o.O
[03:23] <regeya> cafuego even
[03:23] <phzi> holycow: but if you know what your doing, fixing it is just as easy
[03:23] <shortcircuit> mu ipod is broken on ubuntu, i keep getting " can't set config #1, error -71" in dmesg when i try to mount it
[03:24] <holycow> phzi, unfortunately, that requires skillzors
[03:24] <regeya> indeed
[03:24] <regeya> the skills change over time as well
[03:24] <Hentai> argh
[03:24] <redrose> does the livecd come with the ability to make a persistante home drive?
[03:24] <cafuego> You need to reember to sudo -s before you can REALLY break it
[03:24] <phzi> rednose: no
[03:25] <regeya> that time spent researching devfs problems a few years ago comes in handy these days
[03:25] <phzi> but you could make one manually
[03:25] <holycow> the saving grace for linux, at least for me, is that everything being open you can actually drill down into a problem if you need to
[03:25] <holycow> or can hire someone who can
[03:25] <phzi> and modify the live CD to mount it automatically
[03:25] <regeya> and knowing how the world of linux works, that udev knowledge will be useless by 2008
[03:25] <holycow> with closed source your always waiting for the next patch set
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does any one know how to use ChBg background changer?
[03:25] <DekaPink> Is there another command I can use besides ./ to... run... stuff?
[03:25] <phzi> what stuff?
[03:25] <redrose> ok... just checking...
[03:25] <phzi> sh
[03:25] <regeya> what are you on about DekaPink
[03:25] <redrose> ty
[03:25] <holycow> and i have hired people to solve linux related problems and its a bit of an eye opener when you can actually get something fixed as per your needs
[03:25] <phzi> DekaPink: sh for some 'stuff'
[03:25] <phzi> works instead of ./
[03:26] <glyph_> had  to get it from x.org to install it w00t
[03:26] <jf6> racoon97_,  test la?
[03:26] <regeya> and the current codebase of the kernel will be 98% gone by 2009
[03:26] <virgule> whats that a 'signal 11'? SIGSEGV?
[03:26] <racoon97_> jf6 ouais
[03:26] <regeya> but what the hell, you only live once.
[03:26] <DekaPink> Trying to install the proprietary ATI driver, and it's like "use ./drivername.run" to install me" but when I do that, ubuntu says that the command isn't found.
[03:26] <racoon97_> hi anyone
[03:26] <glyph_> hi
[03:26] <phzi> hi
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what program controls the background in ubuntu?
[03:27] <phzi> background?
[03:27] <phzi> you mean wallpaper?
[03:27] <cafuego> DekaPink: There's a prepackaged one.
[03:27] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: did you go to gnomefiles.com?
[03:27] <holycow> DekaPink, sudo ./whatever.run
[03:27] <Danar> DekaPink, run chmod +x filename, then ./
[03:27] <racoon97_> we are french ubuntu user (me and jf6)
[03:27] <jf6> YES
[03:27] <DekaPink> Thank you. :D
[03:27] <keyshawn> et moi aussi !
[03:27] <jf6> and we love sex
[03:27] <keyshawn> du rien
[03:27] <jf6> keyshawn,  cool
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , yes i did i downloaded the stuff from all three links
[03:27] <racoon97_> keyshawn >  cool !
[03:27] <jf6> THE FrENCH COMPANY!
[03:27] <BeefTube> sudo sh whatever.run sometimes too!
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and am gonna try things one at a time
[03:28] <keyshawn> mais, je parle le francais
[03:28] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: and none of them worked?
[03:28] <cafuego> DekaPink: You will want the  xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-kernel-source packages.
[03:28] <jf6> euh on leur fai la marseilleise?
[03:28] <phzi> GAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! anyone know about configuring .asoundrc for mutli outputs?
[03:28] <keyshawn> non.
[03:28] <jf6> si!
[03:28] <jf6> ALLONS ENFANT DE LA PATRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:28] <phzi> everything I've tried doesn't work
[03:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , haven't tryed them yet i have yet to compile them i'm trying to fix chbg right now it's doin something weard
[03:28] <keyshawn> maintenant, j'habite aux etats-unis.
[03:28] <phzi> or just starts playing out of only the back speakers
[03:28] <racoon97_> jf6 >  ptet qui faut pas parler francais ici ... :-]
[03:28] <jf6> LE JOUR DE GLOIRE EST ARRIV
[03:28] <virgule> ils sont fous ces francais >_<
[03:28] <jf6> racoon97_,  je sait :)
[03:29] <racoon97_> jf6 ta gueule :)
[03:29] <jf6> virgule,  lol
[03:29] <keyshawn> hehe.
[03:29] <jf6> NON!
[03:29] <cafuego> phzi: Did you check that the drivers/arts support surround?
[03:29] <jf6> I'M A FREE MAN!
[03:29] <racoon97_> Ubuntu c'est bien !
[03:29] <jf6> YEs
[03:29] <cafuego> phzi: Coz it wouldn t surprise me if they didn't
[03:29] <jf6> bush c'est mal
[03:29] <jf6> :p
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , it's hiding the backgrounds behind the wallpaper you usually see so i kinda want to kill the part of the desktop in gnome
[03:29] <keyshawn> jf6, je crois aussi
[03:29] <racoon97_> jf6 >  tu cherches des emmerdes ?
[03:29] <jf6> racoon97_,  atta
[03:29] <jf6> ^^
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , just to see what happens
[03:29] <phzi> cafuego: yes they do
[03:30] <phzi> it's completely supported
[03:30] <DanielHolth> just installed hoary, hooray.
[03:30] <daniels> ok, guys, while I'm sure the French discussion has been amusing, it's off-topic.
[03:30] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: have fun
[03:30] <phzi> I just can't write the config properly
[03:30] <daniels> can we please get back to Ubuntu support here?
[03:30] <jf6> HEY ENGLISH, MY MOTHER SAYED, AMERICAN WERE SOON OF BITCH
[03:30] <daniels> (in english)
[03:30] <phzi> the driver works by having 3 channels (front, back, mid)
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , what it can't be done?
[03:30] <racoon97_> daniels > soory
[03:30] <Danar> daniels, are you sure? you speak french? ;p
[03:30] <racoon97_> sorry
[03:30] <daniels> jf6: please stop
[03:30] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: this is linux. ANYTHING can be done
[03:30] <jf6> AND THE ENGLISH WERE THE SOON OF AN OTHER BITCH
[03:30] <daniels> Danar: well, this channel is defined to be english
[03:30] <racoon97_> ok try to speak english too
[03:30] <cafuego> jf6: Can you switch off the caps-lock, please?
[03:30] <{J}tatiana> jf6 feme ta guele svp
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , touche ^_^
[03:30] <Danar> daniels, where?
[03:30] <keyshawn> right, danny
[03:31] <{J}tatiana> +q?
[03:31] <virgule> huh ho
[03:31] <Danar> daniels, the channel name isn't even english :p
[03:31] <cafuego> That works too.
[03:31] <racoon97_> hey guys
[03:31] <daniels> Danar: heh.  it's somewhere in the rules.  but trust me that it's english.
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth if i can't get it to work i'm gonna be peeved
[03:31] <thr1ce> is /mnt/cdrom default for cdroms?
[03:31] <keyshawn> ha > good point.
[03:31] <Danar> daniels, bah. you're no fun :p
[03:31] <racoon97_> do you know where we can't find some good backports ?
[03:31] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: this is linux. there is always a way
[03:31] <cafuego> thr1ce: No, /media/cdrom0
[03:31] <keyshawn> where's the ubuntu-en - hehe.
[03:31] <daniels> Danar: that's my job
[03:31] <regeya> SPEAK ENGLISH OR DIE
[03:31] <cafuego> keyshawn: This is actually ubuntu-nl but we tolerate english
[03:31] <keyshawn> well, i guess that's all due to mark shuttleworth.
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth , i killed the background app the other day but forgot how i did it >.<
[03:32] <racoon97_> because on our french forum it's very diifcult to get some
[03:32] <thr1ce> cafuego, ok, thanks...used to devfs and trying to help someone -_-
[03:32] <Velcan> I thought home directories where only limited in size if they were set as a sized partition at install. Am I wrong?
[03:32] <regeya> ooh devfs
[03:32] <regeya> see
[03:32] <phzi> sigh
[03:32] <Danar> {J}tatiana, +q = quiet
[03:32] <phzi> anyone have experience with .asoundrc configuration for use with multiple cards (duplicate stereo)?
[03:32] <thr1ce> hehe
[03:32] <cafuego> Velcan: if the disk is full the disk is full...
[03:32] <thr1ce> devfs is nice
[03:32] <phzi> I am trying to get the same stereo output to play across several hardware outputs (3 to be exact)
[03:32] <{J}tatiana> which does what Danar
[03:32] <mindamp> how come everything i try to install with apt-get says "couldn't find package"?
[03:32] <keyshawn> yeah, daniels, if I have a suggestion for ubuntu, where should I post it ? [so upper mods would read it]
[03:32] <mindamp> i.e. mysql-server
[03:32] <mindamp> and php4
[03:32] <Danar> {J}tatiana, quiets them
[03:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth somehow it left the gnome bars still running but killed the bacground so i'm not shure what part of x it was
[03:33] <{J}tatiana> lol i guessed but wasn't sure it was a real command or not
[03:33] <Velcan> oh crap! duh .... i forgot about the new image files i put on that ntfs drive
[03:33] <mindamp> can anyone help me?
[03:33] <Velcan> no wonder its taking up so much space
[03:33] <Velcan> lol
[03:34] <Velcan> i was like ... I have 30g of music ... :\
[03:34] <Danar> heh
[03:34] <mindamp> who cares how much music you have
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, use synaptic
[03:34] <mindamp> lets talk about development and ubuntu shall we?
[03:34] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you'll get it
[03:34] <holycow> or search apt repository
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i do now go away >.<
[03:34] <mindamp> synaptic doesn't have the package listed aither holycow
[03:34] <Hentai> think my wifi card died
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, you need to know about apt-cache search package
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth yea i hope so
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, maybe its not supported in the base 2000 packages
[03:34] <mindamp> apt-cache search doesn't find it either
[03:34] <holycow> mindamp, you need to enable universe
[03:34] <Velcan> i dont have that much thats what im saying ...
[03:34] <holycow> then do apt-get update
[03:34] <holycow> then you will find it
[03:35] <mindamp> how do i enable universe?
[03:35] <holycow> open up synaptic ...
[03:35] <mindamp> yeh
[03:35] <holycow> theres a button on the bottom, lets you check off univers repositories
[03:35] <Hentai> oh no not again
[03:35] <nalioth> hentai?
[03:35] <mindamp> ill try that
[03:35] <mindamp> thanks
[03:36] <Velcan> mindamp:  allthough this is often used for help mind you it is still nativly a chat client and i was just chatting
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mybackground-properties-0.0.1.tar.bz2 what to do with this file?
[03:36] <Hentai> nalioth I killed my pc card slot on my laptop
[03:36] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: open it
[03:36] <mindamp> worked perfectly holycow, appreciate the help
[03:36] <nalioth> Hentai: like with a screwdriver?
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth duh lol but.....um........how?
[03:36] <Hentai> no
[03:37] <mindamp> velcan, no your client is a chat client
[03:37] <learn25> help. anybody can help me configure my vsftpd.conf to allow local users to login and upload their files?
[03:37] <mindamp> this channel is about ubuntu
[03:37] <Hentai> I think by inserting a card in the wrong way which bent pins
[03:37] <mindamp> :-)
[03:37] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: let me direct you once more to the man
[03:37] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: open a terminal and type "man tar"
[03:37] <Hentai> no wonder my wifi card didn't work
[03:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[03:37] <nalioth> Hentai: with a hammer?
[03:37] <Velcan> yes and my disk was full on my ubuntu box thanks
[03:37] <Hentai> err no
[03:37] <learn25> help. anybody can help me configure my vsftpd.conf to allow local users to login and upload their files?
[03:38] <thr1ce> ChurcH_of_FoamY, check out the tar options man...like jxvf for example -_-
[03:38] <Velcan> if you dont like my chat ignore me or go away
[03:38] <Hentai> I bent the pins with a pc card inserted incorrectly
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[03:38] <mindamp-away> learn25 RTFM
[03:38] <holycow> mindamp-away, no worries, welcome to ubuntu
[03:38] <learn25> what's RTFM?
[03:38] <mindamp-away> thats all i can take
[03:38] <mindamp-away> peace out
[03:38] <keyshawn> @ mindamp
[03:38] <Velcan> learn25:  It's a mean way of saying seek documentation
[03:39] <keyshawn> thr1ce, nice.
[03:39] <nalioth> learn25: you are aptly named, it means "read the fine manual"
[03:39] <learn25> ok
[03:40] <DekaPink> Damn. o.O I in my stupidity have screwed up xorg.conf with the ATI proprietary driver. --;
[03:40] <virgule> its not really 'fine'.. but close enough
[03:40] <thr1ce> DekaPink, run fglrxconfig and make a new one
[03:40] <phzi> DekaPink: mhmh
[03:40] <Velcan> DekaPink:  did you copy it first?
[03:40] <phzi> I bought an NVidia card
[03:40] <nalioth> virgule: its 'fine' enough for this family channel, lol
[03:40] <phzi> just so I would have better driver support
[03:40] <phzi> it's not even as nice as my radeon
[03:40] <virgule> >_<
[03:40] <phzi> but I needed my dual monitors
[03:41] <DekaPink> Velcan: Apparently I'm not that bright.
[03:41] <Velcan> DekaPink:   Doh! :D ... did what thr1ce say fix it?
[03:42] <sizzam> whats up everyone
[03:42] <DekaPink> Velcan: That's how I messed it in the first place... I don't know what to do with it. Heh... I should have just left that crap alone while I was ahead.
[03:43] <Velcan> er actually
[03:43] <Velcan> it should have backit it up when you saved ...
[03:43] <thr1ce> DekaPink, you have to change your xorg.conf to use the driver
[03:43] <Velcan> look for .xorg.conf
[03:44] <phzi> DekaPink: your running ubuntu right?
[03:44] <DekaPink> phzi: Yes.
[03:44] <phzi> there's a command to automatically reconfigure it
[03:44] <phzi> give me a minute to remember
[03:44] <CompShrink> ok, i have a stupd and i'm sure basic question
[03:44] <thr1ce> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[03:44] <thr1ce> or something
[03:44] <CompShrink> *stupid
[03:44] <phzi> that's the one
[03:44] <nalioth> DekaPink: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <Velcan> philips:  is it the command thr1ce was saying
[03:44] <sizzam> im having trouble finding gstreamer-mad in apt-get
[03:44] <phzi> DekaPink: do that
[03:44] <jessejackson> hi
[03:44] <DekaPink> Thank you. :3
[03:44] <thr1ce> xserver-xorg*
[03:44] <thr1ce> thanks nalioth
[03:44] <phzi> follow the directions (just select defaults for pretty much everythig)
[03:45] <nalioth> sizzam: have all your repos enabled?
[03:45] <sizzam> nalioth:  i think so, and removed us.
[03:45] <CompShrink> Ok, I want to change this:  00:18:20:11 --> 00:18:23:10  into:  00:18:20,11 --> 00:18:23,10  several hundred times in a file
[03:45] <nalioth> sizzam: then search for "gstreamer" and see what returns
[03:45] <CompShrink> a plaintext file
[03:46] <sizzam> nalioth:  i get a ton of stuff, but nothing with 'mad',  im trying to get mp3 to work with rhythmbox
[03:46] <phzi> CompShrink: just one file?
[03:46] <Danar> sizzam, enable multiverse
[03:46] <nalioth> sizzam: i know what you are after, hang on aminute
[03:46] <CompShrink> every 4th line is a time stamp, which some program apparently put into the wrong format
[03:46] <CompShrink> phzi, yes, 1 file
[03:47] <nalioth> sizzam: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[03:47] <CompShrink> with 700 timestamps
[03:47] <Danar> sizzam, synaptic > settings > repositories > add > check all. reload. install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:47] <sizzam> thanks nalioth and danar
[03:47] <DekaPink> That did the trick, all. Thank you. :D
[03:47] <SudoPus> Need ifconfig syntax to specify ip/subnet/gateway?
[03:48] <nalioth> Danar: if he doesnt have the repos in his sources.list, your method won't work
[03:48] <regeya> gentoo has one major problem:  I have nothing to fix, nothing to tweak at this moment.  I might have to actually clean my desk, or something.
[03:48] <Danar> nalioth, that would only happen if he removed them
[03:48] <regeya> oops
[03:48] <CompShrink> either directly editing it, or there a way to make gedit think i'm hitting ctrl-f , ctrl-f, ctrl-r  several hundred times?
[03:48] <regeya> s/gentoo/ubuntu/
[03:48] <Danar> nalioth, i'm on the livecd and it works for me
[03:49] <DekaPink> I love my Ubuntu. :3
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth is there something wrong with the syntax of this command : sudo apt-get -f   ?
[03:49] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, you are missing a command
[03:49] <regeya> wait...I could tweak for better multimedia performance...or something.
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth ok what might i be missing can you give an example?
[03:50] <Danar> regeya, or you could learn something... or contribute something... or... ;p
[03:50] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you are trying to fix the whole enchilada, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[03:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok i see where i went wrong ^_^ thanx man
[03:50] <regeya> Danar: if you're annoyed by my elated banter, there's always /ignore.
[03:51] <Danar> regeya, not annoyed.
[03:51] <regeya> Danar:  Sorry for being pleased with how well Ubuntu is put together. ;-)
[03:51] <SudoPus> Ok folks...what file do I edit to be read to setup my nic? I know resolv.conf controls the nameserver(s) how about the actual settings stored for the nic?
[03:51] <Danar> regeya, _not_ annoyed.
[03:51] <Danar> notice the ";p"
[03:52] <regeya> Danar:  Heh, sorry.  Just comparing the current experience to the last few systems I had used.  Very little time being spent on learning how things work merely to make things work. :-)  FYI, though, I've been learning about Ruby, which will label me a heretic in Ubuntu circles *runs*
[03:52] <Go_pLastic> anyone know what codecs i need to open .avi and .mpg files?
[03:53] <cmatheson> is there any way to resize an ntfs partition? (i want to dual boot my parents computer... but it looks like parted is unable to do this)
[03:53] <regeya> Go_pLastic, as far as .avi goes, it depends on what the avi's are that you're playing. avi is a container format. :-)
[03:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm it seems to be checking for this thing called pearl how to get?
[03:53] <nalioth> Go_pLastic: w32codecs for avi and windows stuff
[03:53] <Chrischan> hi there
[03:53] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: its perl, and you should have it
[03:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> according to this it's missing some sorta modual
[03:54] <Chrischan> is there any free software for creating and mixing music like a good synthesizer, beatmachine and editor?!
[03:54] <Danar> regeya, lol
[03:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i don't know what it is cause it dosen't specifiy
[03:54] <regeya> Go_pLastic, just personal preference, but I'd start by installing totem-xine, but just 'coz I have better luck with windows formats (especially wmv) with xine
[03:54] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: well, find out "some sort of module" and install it with synaptic
[03:54] <Danar> what are /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot1 & /dev/mapper/casper-cow ?
[03:55] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it specifys, read the error msg
[03:55] <regeya> gstreamer-ffmpeg doesn't seem to like variable framerate in wmv, at least not yet
[03:55] <Danar> i've only seen them in ubuntu, and gparted says:
[03:55] <Danar> dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot1
[03:55] <Danar> Error: Unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow - unrecognised disk label.
[03:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no it dosen't seriously it just says perl modual requierd for inltool
[03:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and thats it
[03:56] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: so search synaptic for "perl" and see if you are missgin some
[03:56] <Danar> anyone?
[03:56] <Danar> something to do with the fact that i'm on the livecd maybe?
[03:56] <ptlo> Chrischan, there was at one time a roland beat machine emulator program (reborn), but it was put away after a legal threat by roland because it exactly copied look&feel of the beatmachine...but there are still copies lingering in the net so you might be able to find it. also, there's soundtracker, mod tracker similar to fasttracker
[03:57] <Chrischan> ptlo, thanks so far
[03:58] <ptlo> Chrischan, for wave editing, look at audacity
[03:58] <blmartin771> hello
[03:58] <Danar> the first is 2Gb ext2, the second is 1Gb unallocated
[03:58] <blmartin771> just in on a fresh first time ubuntu install
[03:58] <Chrischan> ptlo, yep, but what i meant is compositing, but i guess its useful for that too, right?
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> is there any for for me to specifiy refresh rates for certain resolutions in X?
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> I want to force 1024x768 to be 100
[03:59] <thr1ce> ColonelKernel, set it in xorg.conf
[03:59] <nalioth> blmartin771: welcome
[04:00] <{J}tatiana> ubuntu forums slow or dead?
[04:00] <ptlo> Chrischan, dunno...a quick search turns out rosegarden: http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
[04:00] <sizzam> tatiana:  slow for me
[04:00] <blmartin771> thanks
[04:00] <ateves> can i get nautilus` listview with more than 1 column?
[04:01] <blmartin771> impressed so far
[04:01] <Danar> anyone have any idea why gparted would say it's unable to read the contents of the filesystems?
[04:01] <Chrischan> ptlo, sure thanks, ill better search the web more before asking here ;)
[04:01] <supernix> How do you handle spam in Kmail ?
[04:01] <Danar> there's a corrupt fat32 fs it's not bugging me about, but there's an ext2 and ext3 that are fine that it says it can't read
[04:02] <supernix> I have been trying to filters but it seems to be missing many things that have already been classified as spam by my host who uses spamassasin
[04:02] <ptlo> Chrischan, np, it's ok ;-)
[04:02] <bimberi> Hi all, What's the url for Seveas' script to set up fstab for Windows/Mac partitions? (I did ask earlier but got called away and any answer has scrolled off)
[04:02] <ironmc> I am looking for a video player,  I installed MPlayer but it locks up on me,  Totem seems very limited
[04:02] <Danar> dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdb4
[04:03] <thr1ce> bimberi, just set it up by hand
[04:03] <Danar> ironmc, xine
[04:03] <nalioths_dog> bimberi: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[04:03] <Danar> ironmc, or vlc. i prefer xine
[04:03] <bimberi> nalioths_dog: Many thanks
[04:03] <ironmc> Danar  Thanks I'll try that
[04:03] <Danar> can anyone help me with partitions?
[04:04] <bimberi> thr1ce: I know - but I thought I would try the script.
[04:04] <valtaric> do any of you people know a progrm that run windows based games better then Cedega?
[04:04] <crouton> howdy folks
[04:04] <nalioth> thr1ce: yes, seveas has made it easy
[04:04] <nalioth> valtaric: sure, Windows
[04:04] <thr1ce> nalioth, neat :)
[04:04] <thr1ce> i've always found it easier
[04:04] <valtaric> lol... something that rund on ubuntu.
[04:04] <thr1ce> nope; cedega is it
[04:04] <nalioth> valtaric: have you seen qemu?
[04:05] <ColonelKernel> thr1ce, I seem to be having problems finding directions on how to do this online - best ive found is to be able to specify a single refresh rate for all resolutions but thats no better.
[04:05] <valtaric> ok than, if you have it have you encountered any problems running anything after the initcial install?
[04:05] <Danar> valtaric, cedega or maybe a vm... having a prob?
[04:05] <Chrischan> ptlo, did you mean freebirth probably?
[04:05] <{J}tatiana> are the ubuntu forums slow or dead?
[04:05] <ColonelKernel> Im looking for 1600x1200@75 1280x1024@85 1024x768@100 800x600@144 640x480@150
[04:05] <valtaric> i installed it last night and i have been trying to get it to work but when ever i try to open a program nothing happens.
[04:05] <Velcan> I was finally able to nuke my windows cd today that i got WoW working with cedega :)
[04:06] <crouton> anybody know how to 'save' an ext3 partition that isn't mountable?
[04:06] <Chrischan> ptlo, oh funny website ... http://www.bitmechanic.com/projects/freebirth/
[04:06] <ColonelKernel> :(( what kind of anus lists his domain linuxsucks.org
[04:06] <Danar> crouton, fsck ?
[04:06] <phzi> crouton: dd
[04:06] <nalioth> valtaric: i dont use qemu, just know that it offers virtualization in almost real-time
[04:06] <ptlo> Chrischan, yeah, it seems like it was defaced
[04:06] <ColonelKernel> thats rotten, its free
[04:06] <crouton> Danar: Tried that.
[04:06] <phzi> crouton: dd to an image, using --sync
[04:06] <crouton> phzi: How so?
[04:06] <crouton> phzi: ah. i can try that.
[04:06] <Danar> valtaric, run it from the commandline?
[04:07] <thr1ce> i dont' think qemu will use vid drivers though...it's still emulation
[04:07] <phzi> i'd suggest google, I can't explain the full function of dd ery well
[04:07] <valtaric> qemu? not sur what you mean i am new to ubuntu nad just learning.
[04:07] <ptlo> Chrischan, no, i didn't find freebirth...the project name was 'reborn'
[04:07] <crouton> phzi: Actually, i can't.. it's most of an 80gb disk.
[04:07] <supernix> How do you run that script at boot time to make it work?
[04:07] <supernix> I have been having trouble getting my SATA drive to mount at boot time
[04:07] <phzi> crouton: you can save it gzipped, otherwise, I have no suggestions
[04:07] <nalioth> thr1ce: qemu is a program the shares the processor with 2 OS simultaneously
[04:07] <thr1ce> nalioth, yes
[04:08] <nalioth> thr1ce: actually i think its a kernel module
[04:08] <nalioth> thr1ce: i'm confuse at your mention of video drivers
[04:08] <supernix> Hi everyone
[04:08] <crouton> phzi: thanks for the ideas.
[04:08] <thr1ce> nalioth, i was under the impression qemu is an emulator, similar to vmware
[04:08] <ptlo> Chrischan, reborn looks like this: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~senko/reborn.png
[04:09] <phzi> crouton: hope it might help
[04:09] <crouton> Any special fsck commands for ext3?
[04:09] <nalioth> thr1ce: no, it is a kernel patch that gives every other cycle to whichever OS, i believe
[04:09] <Chrischan> ptlo, i remember quite some time ago that i used this software once
[04:09] <thr1ce> nalioth, hm...interesting; sorry then if I was incorrect =\
[04:09] <Danar> can someone please help me with a partition/gparted problem?
[04:09] <Hentai> nailoth they say its a enulator
[04:09] <nalioth> thr1ce: better than an emulator
[04:09] <crouton> indeed
[04:10] <Velcan> Anyone ever messed around with dvd ripping via mencoder?
[04:10] <thr1ce> nalioth, yes, but it won't use the the drivers will it?
[04:10] <ptlo> Chrischan, it's windows equivalent is called rebirth
[04:10] <macGuy> hey
[04:10] <nalioth> thr1ce: both OS' will use their own drivers
[04:10] <Hentai> QEMU is an emulator. It means that it converts each target CPU instruction into host instructions. Therefore, it emulates any supported target processor on any supported host processor.
[04:10] <Hentai> The QEMU accelerator adds a virtualization layer to QEMU
[04:11] <Hentai> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/faq.html
[04:11] <phzi> anyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?
[04:11] <phzi> I want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P
[04:11] <macGuy> I have a 2wire PC port and I want to get internet on my ubuntu stystem. I've plugged it in to a usb, the light goes on and in device manager, i see 2wire pc port listed
[04:11] <ptlo> Chrischan, anyways, as i said the original author removed the program from its page, but you can google for: reborn tar.gz and you'll find it prepackaged; it just has gtk+ dependancies
[04:11] <ColonelKernel> ok I turned of EDID frequencies but I still cant break the 85hz barrier
[04:12] <biovore> anyone know of a traffic counter service?
[04:12] <macGuy> is there  away i can get drivers for the internet to work
[04:12] <PlutoPrime> anyone knows a good "GUI" program for Mass renaming files of any type?
[04:12] <Chrischan> ptlo, thanks a lot
[04:12] <adwait> hey ppl
[04:12] <ptlo> Chrischan, np
[04:12] <PlutoPrime> I don't want to write a bash script for that
[04:12] <biovore> PlutoPrime
[04:12] <biovore> PlutoPrime:bash is good at that kind of stuff.. gui suck at it..
[04:12] <thr1ce> ColonelKernel, you could always make a new one with xorgconfig
[04:12] <adwait> can someone tell me if there is anyway to restart a router connected to the computer?
[04:12] <Flightman> i've got an Orinoco Chipset PCMCIA wireless card, and i don't quite know where to begin to add the drivers to my kernel
[04:12] <thr1ce> hit the reset button on the router?
[04:13] <macGuy> I have a 2wire PC port and I want to get internet on my ubuntu stystem. I've plugged it in to a usb, the light goes on and in device manager, i see 2wire pc port listed. is there  away i can get drivers for the internet to work. 2wire only supports windows, but i read in the forums about ndiswrapper. Is this what i should use?
[04:13] <Hentai> whats a 2wire pc port?
[04:13] <nalioth> thr1ce: i'm looking forward to gettin my hands on a x86 compatible box, so i can test qemu
[04:13] <Flightman> adwait: unplug/replug...the reset button will wipe all your settings
[04:13] <PlutoPrime> it's true.. but I was hoping for a nice easy to use GUI
[04:13] <macGuy> its a homepna adapter
[04:13] <Hentai> macGuy whats a 2 wire pc port?
[04:13] <thr1ce> nalioth, you on ppc now?
[04:13] <Hentai> oh
[04:13] <ColonelKernel> thr1ce, I dont think that would help, thats what set up the refresh rates I have now anyways
[04:13] <Hentai> okk
[04:13] <adwait> thr1ce: no....i meant with software, automatically.......problem is i get free downloads betwen 12-8,  i need to disconnect and reconnect to the net for tht
[04:13] <macGuy> it goes  usb to adapter to phon leine
[04:13] <macGuy> phone line*
[04:14] <adwait> i dont wanna be up till 12 just to reconnect.....so is there a way to do this by software
[04:14] <adwait> ?
[04:14] <nalioth> thr1ce: i've been on PPC for over 3 years
[04:14] <thr1ce> adwait, hm...i'm not good with cron, but pretty sure you could set it up to bring eth down and back up at a given time
[04:14] <Chrischan> ptlo, reborn-i386-1_0.tar.gz or is the a newer version?
[04:14] <Flightman> adwait, usually there's an option in the router's web interface to reset it...a small script with a time to go off will prolly do the job
[04:15] <Danar> anyone? i really need help here
[04:15] <Danar> gparted says it can't read the file systems, so it can't do stuff..
[04:15] <{J}tatiana> Danar
[04:15] <{J}tatiana> pm me the prob
[04:15] <kbrooks> i need to remove all the deps of kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <adwait> thr1ce: ifup wont restart  the router......the adsl link stays
[04:15] <Flightman> how do i go about adding a wireless card module to my kernel?
[04:16] <kbrooks> how do i do so
[04:16] <nalioth> Danar: shut down parted and see what cfdisk says
[04:16] <adwait> Flightman: there is an option in the web interface to restart it, but how do i activate that automatically?
[04:16] <phzi> anyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?
[04:16] <phzi> I want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P
[04:16] <Danar> and qtparted says Used Space: N/A
[04:16] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: dpkg, awk, and apt-cache
[04:16] <Flightman> adwait, you can probably write a small script that will run at a given time to go into your router's web interface and hit the reset button...
[04:17] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, show me please
[04:17] <thr1ce> kbrooks, google is your friend
[04:17] <Flightman> adwait, a simpler and really stupid way of fixing it would be to get a lamp timer from the hardware store, and set the on/off points really close together so it only powers the router down for a second ;)
[04:17] <adwait> flightman: threre is a button in there which restarts it, how do u click a button with software..
[04:18] <{J}tatiana> Danar if you're still stuck just pm me an i'll see what i can recommend.
[04:18] <adwait> Flightman: hmm...i would do that, if its entirely impossible to work only with software
[04:18] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: use apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop to get a list of packages. Use awk to parse the package entries. Use dpkg (well, aptitude is probably easier) to remove/purge those entries generated by awk's parsing.
[04:18] <Danar> nalioth, they don't show in cfdisk. i tried qtparted and it said they weren't cleanly unmounted
[04:18] <nalioth> Danar: perhaps a restart?
[04:18] <nalioth> Danar: or an fsck?
[04:18] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, easy enough
[04:19] <Danar> nalioth, fsck didn't work :/
[04:19] <thr1ce> kbrooks, oh, thought you wanted a link to kubuntu live lol...sorry
[04:19] <Flightman> adwait, the first method i described involves looking at the webpage code the router's web interface uses, and writing your own code to call that function at a given time...though it's simple if you can write code well (i can't, not the right code anyways) it's a serious endeavor if you're not willing to learn...
[04:19] <nalioth> Danar: have you tried chrooting to the HD-based *nix?
[04:19] <Danar> brb. restarting
[04:19] <Danar> nalioth, uh, no
[04:20] <Danar> nalioth, can't now. ubuntu doesn't see those partitions anymore
[04:20] <adwait> Flightman: naah its ok.........i can learn :), i just looked at the code and its simple javascript.......ill take some time to completely read and understand it and then try writing the codr
[04:20] <nalioth> Danar: well then a restart will "cleanse the palate" as well as it will
[04:20] <adwait> but another thing..the javascript is embedded in the webpage, its not a separate js file......so how do i call the function"
[04:20] <Danar> brb
[04:20] <adwait> ?
[04:21] <Flightman> adwait, cool...once you've got it written, set it up as a cronjob in linux to go off at a certain time and you should be all set
[04:21] <Flightman> adwait, although, depending on how you value your time, the timer might be easier ;)
[04:21] <adwait> Flightman: i am a student, on vacations....how do u think i value my time ;)
[04:21] <Sok> i seriously need help
[04:21] <Sok> lol
[04:21] <joecool> Sok: :)
[04:22] <crouton> phzi: "dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=/dev/sda1/backup.file" look about right? Or should I pipe it to tar?
[04:22] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, do i set the selections?
[04:22] <Sok> how do i configure my dsl modem to ubuntu...im a newbie to
[04:22] <Sok> lol
[04:22] <kbrooks> and install those selected?
[04:23] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: I thought you wanted to remove them.
[04:23] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, i want to...
[04:23] <Flightman> adwait, as someone in a similar position, it depends...you might wanna spend it coding, or you might wanna spend it gallavanting around outside ;)
[04:23] <kubuntu-live> kbrooks: so why would you set any selections?
[04:23] <Sok> how do i set up a pppoe connection for my dsl modem?
[04:23] <Flightman> adwait, i'm stuck in ohio for the summer, so i'm spending it thinking/coding...though i'd rather be chasing girls
[04:23] <kbrooks> kubuntu-live, ok
[04:24] <kubuntu-live> Flightman: think & code first, chase girls when you retire
[04:24] <sizzam> whats the easiest way to start a second console automatically at boot time so that i can use ctrl+alt+f7 an f8 to switch between them?
[04:24] <adwait> Flightman: hehe.......naah, well i go out with friends in the afternoons/evening and come back at night ......but i have the monrings to myself
[04:24] <thr1ce> adwait, get a job!
[04:25] <kubuntu-live> sizzam: F1-F6 are already populated with gettys
[04:25] <kbrooks> whoa
[04:25] <Sok> lol
[04:25] <Hikaru79> O_O;
[04:25] <crouton> nice netsplit
[04:25] <joecool> NETSPLIT!!! WE ALL GONNA DIE!!
[04:25] <youngcoder> wtf
[04:25] <Hikaru79> youngcoder, way to go
[04:25] <adwait> wtf
[04:25] <adwait> ?
[04:25] <joecool> actually.. lilo just needs more money
[04:25] <dutch> relax !
[04:25] <Hikaru79> You broke the channel
[04:25] <Sok> so can anyone help me?
[04:25] <joecool> :P
[04:25] <kbrooks> lol
[04:25] <Flightman> heh
[04:25] <adwait> thr1ce: hmm..not very common around here for teenagers to get jobs.....if ur parents earn, ur set :)
[04:25] <Hikaru79> Good thing I fixed it
[04:25] <Hikaru79> You got lucky this time, youngcoder ;)
[04:25] <youngcoder> ?
[04:25] <sizzam> kubuntu-live:  im looking for something like that which will already have x started for my wife (bigger noob than me)
[04:25] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, yea...it's hard to resist man, they've got the realultimatepower...
[04:26] <holycow> any system builder types around? if you take the heat sink off the cpu and wish to remount it, is it mandatory that you need to replace the grey gooey stuff usually present in heatsinks?  (when ytou take a heatsink off the goo is usually missing/displaced) ?
[04:26] <joecool> holycow: not really
[04:26] <joecool> holycow: unless you don't have like any left
[04:26] <thr1ce> yes it is
[04:26] <kubuntu-live> thermal paste is _highly_ recommended
[04:26] <thr1ce> thermal paste is important
[04:26] <sizzam> especially on an amd
[04:26] <valtaric> i need some help getting Cedega to work on my Ubuntu system
[04:26] <holycow> it is? this is an amd cpu yes
[04:27] <holycow> okay
[04:27] <sizzam> they run hot
[04:27] <Flightman> holycow, YES...if you value your processor and want to be 100% sure that it'll survive, clean both the processor and heatsink with rubbing alcohol and polish to a shine...then find some more thermal paste to put on it before reinstalling
[04:27] <holycow> ah!
[04:27] <holycow> okay thanks
[04:27] <kubuntu-live> unless, of course, you don't mind your cpu overheating. Who needs a properly-cooled cpu anyhow?!
[04:27] <Flightman> haha
[04:27] <youngcoder> Hikaru79, what u mean?
[04:27] <Flightman> i love it when MY system locks up...
[04:27] <Hikaru79> youngcoder, I was joking, just joking ^ ^;
[04:27] <adwait> im gonna go ppl.......
[04:27] <holycow> just checking if metal to metal contact was enough
[04:27] <adwait> bbye and thx Flightman
[04:27] <ale_> Hello, do I need LVM to run a desktop?
[04:27] <Flightman> adwait, no probs man, good luck
[04:27] <ColonelKernel> can anyone please help me force higher refresh rates? I used gtf to generate modelines but they dont seem to be working.
[04:27] <youngcoder> oh i had to scroll up lmao
[04:27] <adwait> ale_: no......LVM = a new kind of partiotioning
[04:27] <holycow> appearently, i need to study up on my laws of thermodynamics
[04:27] <TincH> i need help getting sound
[04:27] <adwait> !LVM
[04:27] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, adwait
[04:27] <kubuntu-live> ale_: it's not required, no
[04:28] <holycow> thanks dudes
[04:28] <ColonelKernel> http://pastebin.com/310970
[04:28] <kubuntu-live> TincH: shoot
[04:28] <ColonelKernel> thats my xorg.conf
[04:28] <youngcoder> what caused all that?
[04:28] <ale_> adwait, kubuntu-live: thanks!
[04:28] <adwait> np
[04:28] <Flightman> so, can anyone help me solve my wireless PC Card woes!? Orinoco chipset, not seen by my fresh install of ubuntu, how do i compile a kernel module for it?
[04:28] <kubuntu-live> yw
[04:28] <valtaric> i need help getting cedega to run properly.
[04:28] <TincH> ok a have a crystal cx4235
[04:28] <TincH> i been toul to run alsaconf
[04:29] <TincH> but i can find it
[04:29] <kubuntu-live> TincH: Ubuntu does not ship with alsaconf. Try: sudo modprobe snd_cs4235
[04:29] <Hikaru79> youngcoder, it's called a netsplit, and it happens when one of the servers in an IRC network is disconnected from the rest. All the people on that server are literally "split" from the main network
[04:29] <valtaric> cna anyone help me?
[04:29] <joecool> so.. anyone know howto  set up a friggin pppoe connection here?
[04:29] <joecool> anyone? anyone at all?
[04:30] <ColonelKernel> no luck yet
[04:30] <joecool> would seem like a pretty basic thing.. i'd expect around 15%-20% of you would have to do it
[04:30] <youngcoder> Hikaru79, thanks i have enver een tha before :)
[04:30] <TincH>  modprobe snd_cs4235
[04:30] <TincH> i get this
[04:30] <TincH> sory
[04:30] <TincH> FATAL: Module snd_cs4235 not found.
[04:30] <kubuntu-live> TincH: please use the pastebin noted in the topic
[04:30] <joecool> hmm.. i've found a channel more annoying then #gentoo.. awesome!
[04:31] <kubuntu-live> joecool: did you try searching the Ubuntu wiki, forum, and mailing list archives?
[04:31] <valtaric> can anyone help me with
[04:31] <TincH> sory
[04:31] <valtaric> Cedega??
[04:31] <TincH> i says it cant find the module
[04:31] <kubuntu-live> valtaric: there's a nice channel on this network devoted to it: #cedega
[04:31] <valtaric> thakns
[04:32] <joecool> kubuntu-live: not really.. then again i'm a gentoo user.. got a friend settin up an ubuntu install and I really can't help him, but I AM good at getting people's attention
[04:32] <KarlosII> joecool, if you think ubuntu or gentoo is annoying which I consider them friendly, then you need to visit #debian
[04:32] <joecool> kubuntu-live: he has searched the forums
[04:32] <Moppin> valtaric, Have you seen this page? http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:32] <joecool> KarlosII: oh god yeah.. #debian are all elitist bastards in there.. the good thing is you get quick responses as well as insults
[04:32] <joecool> KarlosII: back in the day my channel was a like a flooding base for #debian :)
[04:33] <kubuntu-live> TincH: sorry, try snd_cs4232 or snd_cs4236
[04:33] <KarlosII> heh
[04:33] <TincH> a ok
[04:33] <kubuntu-live> TincH: you probably want the latter (snd_cs4236)
[04:33] <lxuser_> onedistro to rule them all
[04:33] <joecool> KarlosII: yeah.. but you guys have the ricer sort of a craze that gentoo has.. so thats why its not so great in here..
[04:33] <TincH> yes i did that
[04:33] <TincH> what now?
[04:34] <kubuntu-live> TincH: did it return to a prompt immediately without error?
[04:34] <ubuntuist> why arent there any more naked persons in the new version ?
[04:34] <TincH> yes
[04:35] <kubuntu-live> TincH: ok, now please paste the output from amixer onto the topic's pastebin
[04:35] <kubuntu-live> ubuntuist: mmkay, got an actual relevant, on-topic question? :)
[04:36] <ubuntuist> i too feel naked wareing linux :-)
[04:37] <nalioth> kubuntu-live: isnt ubuntu-calendare a revelent subject?
[04:37] <jtan325> does anyone here use aterm 1.0.0?
[04:37] <kubuntu-live> nalioth: sure, it can be. I'm just a bit primed from the earlier spamming.
[04:38] <nalioth> kubuntu-live: o k
[04:38] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, think you might be able to help me out configuring my wireless card?
[04:38] <fatfreepork> whats the first step to setting up a webserver?
[04:38] <fatfreepork> after getting php, apache, and mysql
[04:38] <kubuntu-live> Flightman: I can try, but wifi isn't really my cup of tea. Have you followed the general hints regarding your wifi chipset?
[04:39] <ubuntuist> theres no weekly distrowatch page has of yet !
[04:39] <ubuntuist> mabey hes on holidays
[04:40] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, supposedly my chipset's been part of the kernel since 2.4, i just dunno how to make the kernel see the card
[04:40] <crouton> argh
[04:40] <kubuntu-live> Flightman: which chipset or card?
[04:41] <Flightman> kubuntu-live, it's a 2Wire 802.11b pcmcia card, but it's an orinoco chipset...so it should be easy...SHOULD
[04:42] <ubuntuist> _Burrito_, is here
[04:42] <zenlunatic> do drivers have man pages?
[04:42] <_Burrito_> hi
[04:42] <kubuntu-live> zenlunatic: generally no, but they have documentation (READMEs, etc.)
[04:42] <_Burrito_> does anybody use the xfce desktop?
[04:43] <kubuntu-live> I use it infrequently these days due to lack of hardware.
[04:43] <kubuntu-live> it's quite slick, though
[04:43] <qt2> anyone know much about vnc?
[04:43] <ubuntuist> dont you think ubuntu ratings on distrowatch are from the same person clicking over and over again ?
[04:44] <_Burrito_> i close the taskbar,  and i dont know whath to do about it
[04:44] <_Burrito_> can anybody help out?
[04:45] <kubuntu-live> _Burrito_: along the bottom of the screen? You can open a terminal and execute xfdesktop
[04:46] <youngcoder> hmm
[04:46] <ubuntuist> nice
[04:46] <youngcoder> thats getting annoying
[04:46] <Computer__Guru> what is?
[04:46] <ubuntuist> i think its the cops
[04:46] <kubuntu-live> just set your irc client (you _are_ using irssi-text, correct? :-) to ignore joins and quits
[04:46] <youngcoder> the netsplits
[04:47] <nate__> hey, how do you unzip all the files in a directory?
[04:47] <ubuntuist> theyr cracking up the servers
[04:47] <ubuntuist> with bots
[04:47] <youngcoder> kubuntu-live, what is command to do that>?
[04:47] <kubuntu-live> something like: for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i"; done
[04:48] <nate__> thanks
[04:48] <TincH> how do i turn on volumen amixer
[04:48] <kubuntu-live> youngcoder: /help ignore :)
[04:48] <kubuntu-live> TincH: see privmsg
[04:48] <trevor_> thanks TincH
[04:48] <crouton> anyone accomplished in saving an ext3 partition?
[04:48] <trevor_> lost it in the listed cache search
[04:49] <Computer__Guru> by saving you mean what?
[04:49] <crouton> it's not mountable - bad journal.
[04:49] <Computer__Guru> you tried fsck'ing it?
[04:49] <crouton> er, bad superblock
[04:49] <crouton> oh yes.
[04:49] <phzi> anyone know of any cool animation addons to X? such as 3ddesk?
[04:49] <phzi> I want to play with some crazy leetified looking computer setupzor :P
[04:49] <ubuntuist> crouton are you using ubuntu ?
[04:49] <crouton> ubuntuist: yes.
[04:50] <Computer__Guru> i dunno beyond fsck, sorry
[04:50] <crouton> " Illegal block number while checking ext3 journal for /" is the return from e2fsck
[04:50] <ubuntuist> i use reiserfs
[04:50] <ubuntuist> never gave me any troubles so far
[04:50] <crouton> this is a separate drive, not where ubuntu is installed.
[04:50] <crouton> well, this only happened because the power went out..
[04:51] <ubuntuist> get an ups :-)
[04:51] <crouton> power's gone out 5 times in 2-3 weeks, ups is drained.
[04:51] <phzi> crouton:
[04:51] <ubuntuist> LOL
[04:51] <phzi> how long ago was the filesystem created?
[04:51] <ubuntuist> crouton, is full of it
[04:52] <crouton> phzi: today
[04:52] <joecool> ubuntu supports .deb right?
[04:52] <trevor_> hmm no luck with unrar-nonfree
[04:52] <phzi> oh really? did you write down the backup superblock nodes?
[04:52] <phzi> or didn't bother?
[04:52] <crouton> phzi: I didn't, but supposedly dumpe2fs can show information.
[04:52] <phzi> k
[04:52] <phzi> you used defaults right?
[04:52] <crouton> yes.
[04:52] <joecool> i can't be lagging this bad.. its a simple friggin question
[04:53] <joecool> ubuntu supports .deb right? (yes/no?)
[04:53] <crouton> joecool: yes, dpkg.
[04:53] <kubuntu-live> joecool: it's based on Debian, so yes.
[04:53] <phzi> you can do it wit DD
[04:53] <Computer__Guru> trevor: rar/unrar are int he multiverse
[04:53] <joecool> i figured, thanks
[04:53] <phzi> there is no other way
[04:53] <phzi> http://edseek.com/archives/2004/02/25/ext3-filesystem-bad-superblock-recovery/
[04:53] <youngcoder> i heard that Ubuntu is soon to release a version with support for file/folder encryption.. anyone heard about this or know about it?
[04:53] <crouton> phzi: Yeah, I'm tryin to find a filesystem to copy the file to.
[04:53] <phzi> otherwise, can you get the superblock locations?
[04:54] <phzi> you said something about that
[04:54] <crouton> yeah, lemme read the output
[04:54] <jtan325> does anyone here use aterm 1.0.0?
[04:54] <phzi> /sbin/fsck.ext3 -b <superblock backup location> /dev/sda1
[04:54] <cmatheson> jtan325: i use aterm
[04:55] <jtan325> cmatheson, is it 1.0.0?
[04:55] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh, no it's just the standard ubuntu version (who would have thought it was only at .4...)
[04:55] <jtan325> hmmm yeah
[04:55] <phzi> crouton: /sbin/fsck.ext3 -b <superblock backup location> /dev/sda1
[04:55] <jtan325> i just compiled and installed 1.0.0
[04:55] <cmatheson> jtan325: what's up w/ 1.0?
[04:55] <jtan325> trying to get the borderless option to work
[04:55] <jtan325> but it doesn't seem to work
[04:55] <crouton> phzi: Yeah, I'm trying, all the backup superblocks are coming up with the same ' Illegal block number while checking ext3 journal for /' error.
[04:55] <jtan325> and when i look at the man pages
[04:56] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh... i don't really seem to have a border on openbox (but that's not due to aterm)
[04:56] <youngcoder> anyone know of an add-on package that will encrypt folders?
[04:56] <NeoGeo64> help i just installed the i686 kernel and no longer need to use the i386 one.  how do i get rid of it and remove it from grub
[04:56] <jtan325> cmatheson, i am using openbox too
[04:56] <jtan325> awesome
[04:56] <jtan325> cmatheson, so what i mean by border is the decor
[04:56] <jtan325> is that something i specify in rc.xml or something?
[04:57] <cmatheson> jtan325: ooooh
[04:57] <jtan325> i would like to turn off the decor by default for aterm
[04:57] <NeoGeo64> does anyone know
[04:57] <cmatheson> jtan325: hmmm, it seems like there probably is a way... there was a blackbox tool that used to work w/ openbox that would configure these kinds of things, but it may not work anymore since ob3 is no longer based on the bb code
[04:57] <jtan325> NeoGeo64, you could start browsing /boot/grub
[04:58] <jtan325> yeah
[04:58] <NeoGeo64> ok
[04:58] <jtan325> cmatheson, so your aterms always have decor?
[04:58] <regeya> nautilus needs something equivalent to finder's folder actions.
[04:58] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah, sorry, i thought your were just talking about how in metacity there is an ugly like 3-pixel border going around everything (whereas in ob there's not anything but the resize-bar/title-bar)
[04:58] <regeya> I wish I were kidding.
[04:59] <jtan325> hmmm yeah
[04:59] <cmatheson> jtan325: there's a windowmanager called ratpoison (it's anti-mouse) that doesn't have any kind of window decorations
[04:59] <crouton> phzi: all the backup superblocks have the same error.
[05:00] <jtan325> cmatheson, i've heardof that... not looking to go that exterme lol
[05:00] <trevor_> Computer__Guru: Whats multiverse?
[05:00] <Computer__Guru> tomorrow sometime ill be watching hhgttg
[05:00] <Computer__Guru> trevor_: lemme get the sources you need to add
[05:00] <trevor_> Oh ok :)
[05:00] <cmatheson> jtan325: hehe
[05:01] <benxor> can someone help? my ps/2 mouse won't work in X. I've gone into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed mouse type from imps/2 to ps/2, tried /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, but nothing seems to work. any suggestions?
[05:01] <trevor_> coming from gentoo, this is odd...
[05:01] <cmatheson> trevor_: it's the non-free crap (free as in speech)
[05:01] <jtan325> cmatheson, "-bl number  This option specifies that aterm should askwindow manager to not have a border around terms window; resource borderLess"
[05:01] <trevor_> everything just works by default
[05:01] <dikadika> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu, it gets to the portion where it attempts to install the kernel and then stops (79 percent when installing the base system) and after about 40 mins gives an error message... anyone seen this before?
[05:01] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh good call... it doesn't work though?
[05:01] <jtan325> cmatheson, well i am trying all sorts of numbers
[05:01] <jtan325> doesn't seem to wrok
[05:01] <jtan325> work
[05:01] <dikadika> i dont have the error msg written down, but i'm waiting for it to throw the error again
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security multiverse
[05:01] <Computer__Guru> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security multiverse
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> add those to sources.list, and sudo apt-get update
[05:02] <trevor_> ok
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> then sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[05:02] <cmatheson> jtan325: try the cvs version of openbox (i loaded it on my computer because i'm trying to write some "bling bling" patches and other stuff for ob... anyway it seems a lot radder~pango font rendering (so multi-lingual support is finally avaliable)and some other good stuff
[05:02] <cmatheson> jtan325: could be a bug w/ ob... try another windowmanager to test it first maybe?
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> speaking of bling bling
[05:02] <Computer__Guru> go rate my desktop
[05:02] <jtan325> cmatheson, yeah i was going to switch to fluxbox qucikly, once my bittorrents finished
[05:03] <benxor> can someone help? my ps/2 mouse won't work in X. I've gone into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed mouse type from imps/2 to ps/2, tried /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux, but nothing seems to work. any suggestions?
[05:03] <Computer__Guru> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26283
[05:03] <SudoPus> nalioth: I was told you are running PPC? I have a dual G4..which smp kernel to choose? linux_image_2.6<blah> or just the linux_image_smp?
[05:03] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh ok.  what's fluxbox doing these days?  i liked it back in the day, but the tabs seem less relevant lately (since everything has it natively), and the lack of xft rendering kills me)
[05:03] <valtaric> does anyone know were i can aget a copy of mplayer.deb?
[05:04] <jtan325> cmatheson, i was 100% fluxbox-crazy for the past week
[05:04] <cmatheson> valtaric: it's in multiverse
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: do this
[05:04] <WS> I'm having tons of trouble trying to install a version of ffmpeg that encodes things in PSP format
[05:04] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh rad~what's it doing that ob isn't?
[05:04] <WS> do any of you gurus think you can help me on this?
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: when that is done,
[05:04] <jtan325> cmatheson, well it was primarily because the documentation seemed more extensive, and there were more people using it...  you know, easier to get my foot through the door with a new wm
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts
[05:04] <WS> a guy has a page with some debs that he made for ubuntu forums, but they need newer packages than I have etc.
[05:04] <Computer__Guru> oh you'll want to sudo both of those
[05:05] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh yeah, openbox's docs aren't very extensive... the source code is clean but i swear it has no comments... it's the most frustrating thing ever!
[05:05] <jtan325> cmatheson, but then i found the whole "slit" and taskbar somewhat annoying
[05:05] <Ayzax> hey
[05:06] <jtan325> cmatheson, so i switched over a few days ago, using pypanel and gdesklets to put together something quite nice :-)
[05:06] <Computer__Guru> mplayer is in the universe, you just have to build deps for it first :)
[05:06] <jtan325> cmatheson, and the memory consumption is miniscule too!
[05:06] <cmatheson> yay!
[05:06] <jtan325> cmatheson, what do you use "in addition" to openbox?
[05:06] <WS> anyone have ffmpeg experience?
[05:07] <valtaric> ok i got the two of thoes but i don't know how to build a deps...
[05:07] <jtan325> cmatheson, more like, what other programs play well with ob that you use?
[05:07] <cmatheson> jtan325: i'm actually just a big fan of straight up ob... i do use gkrellm for my system monitoring though, and the windowmaker dockapp called 'docker' (it holds all the system-tray mini-icons from gnome/kde)~that pretty much gives me everything i need
[05:07] <TincH> have no sound please help
[05:07] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[05:07] <Computer__Guru> that's how you build the deps
[05:07] <Computer__Guru> then
[05:07] <cmatheson> jtan325: i have my friend using openbox w/ fbpanel and the 'rox' file manager
[05:08] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts
[05:08] <Computer__Guru> and you're done
[05:08] <Ayzax> quit
[05:08] <cmatheson> TincH: you're going to need to be a whole lot more descriptive...
[05:08] <jtan325> cmatheson, i was using docker before i discovered pypanel. how do you manage to keep track of all your windows without a panel?
[05:08] <jtan325> ALT+TAB?
[05:08] <valtaric> it is saying it couldn;t find the package.
[05:08] <valtaric> mplayer 686
[05:09] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: in /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment anything that ends with universe
[05:09] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: then, save the file and do: sudo apt-get update
[05:09] <jtan325> TincH, read the ubuntu guide, section on "sound"
[05:09] <Computer__Guru> then try them again
[05:09] <jtan325> !ubuntuguide
[05:09] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[05:09] <ColonelKernel> hooray for me , i got it
[05:09] <TincH> ok
[05:09] <ColonelKernel> 100hz in games now, life it good
[05:09] <jtan325> well the instructions in ubuntu guide worked for me
[05:11] <valtaric> when i try the /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <valtaric>  it says permission denied
[05:11] <jtan325> valtaric, put a "sudo' in front of the command
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <kubuntu-live> the cs4xxxx sound drivers are a bit wonky
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> then
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get update
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> then
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-686
[05:11] <Computer__Guru> then sudo apt-get install mplayer-686 mplayer-fonts
[05:12] <Computer__Guru> then enjoy mplayer :)
[05:12] <WS> build-dep
[05:12] <WS> is there a way to do that with dpkg?
[05:12] <Computer__Guru> i dont know, that's a good question
[05:12] <WS> http://tube013.org/?p=317 ...if you could look at that for me and and see if you could help me
[05:12] <nalioth_zZz> WS: not to my knowledge
[05:12] <WS> I'd greatly appreciate it
[05:12] <Computer__Guru> if you could enter a downloaded .deb into the cache without installing it, i dont see why you wouldn't be able to apt-get build-dep
[05:12] <WS> I need to install those deb files but having tons of problems
[05:12] <jtan325> cmatheson, so how do you manage your windows? alt+tab?
[05:12] <nalioth_zZz> ws what are you build-depping?
[05:13] <WS> ffmpeg with PSP encoding support
[05:13] <WS> aka faac
[05:13] <nalioth_zZz> WS: and sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-blah doesnt work?
[05:13] <Computer__Guru> is there a way to enter a downloaded .deb into the cache without actually installing it?
[05:14] <Crutonman> Hey there
[05:14] <Computer__Guru> cause if there is, that would solve your problem
[05:14] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah, i try to split it up into desktops... one for 'net' one for 'devel' one for 'misc' one for my terminals, etc... that way i only have a few windows on each desktop and switching w/ alt-tab or whatever isn't a big deal.  (plus it's all by functionality so knowing w/ workspace i need isn't hard to remember either)
[05:14] <Crutonman> How does one go about disabling Gnome from using the sound system?
[05:14] <Crutonman> I need to unlock it so Cedega can hand it off to CS: Source
[05:14] <jtan325> cmatheson, wish i could do that
[05:14] <Computer__Guru> cmatheson: I do the same in KDE.. Workspace, Internet, Multimedia, Shells, Messengers, Miscellaneous
[05:14] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you can just run 'esdctl standby' (you may need to install the esd-client package or something like that)
[05:14] <jtan325> cmatheson, i can never get the hang of workspaces
[05:14] <jtan325> oh well
[05:15] <Crutonman> cmatheson, do you use cedega yourself?
[05:15] <cmatheson> jtan325: it's not too bad... just use your mouse wheel to scroll, or ctrl+alt+arrow keys (alternatively i have configured my bindings to use alt+f1=workspace 1 alt+f2=workspace2 etc.)
[05:15] <Computer__Guru> wow i hope i can keep this speed up, if i can hhgttg is gonna be done in time to watch it tonight \:D/
[05:15] <jtan325> cmatheson, yeah, i had that going in fluxbox for a bit
[05:16] <jtan325> cmatheson, how do you get programs to start when you login
[05:16] <cmatheson> Crutonman: no... i don't really play games, but it's just esound tying up your /dev/dsp
[05:16] <jtan325> cmatheson, i hacked a workaround to get it to work, because apparently .xsession is NOT the answer
[05:17] <cmatheson> jtan325: just add it to your ~/.xsession (.xinitrc?) and then choose 'system default' from the gdm sessions menu
[05:17] <cmatheson> jtan325: did you make it executable?
[05:17] <ws_> sorry
[05:17] <jtan325> cmatheson, yea...
[05:17] <cmatheson> jtan325: it may be .xinitrc (i have a symlink to .xsession from my .xinitrc file)
[05:17] <ws_> nalioth_zZz ws what are you build-depping?
[05:17] <ws_> WS ffmpeg with PSP encoding support
[05:17] <ws_> WS aka faac
[05:17] <ws_> WS y:P
[05:17] <ws_> WS ;P*
[05:17] <ws_> WS am I still here
[05:17] <ws_> * Disconnected ().
[05:17] <Crutonman> cmatheson: This "esd-client" package does not seem to exist in my resositories, do you know if its under another name? I tried an apt-cache search on esd but found nothing similar to what you said
[05:17] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: is everything going according to plan over there?
[05:17] <jtan325> cmatheson, when i used .xinitrc and started X using "startx" it worked fine
[05:17] <cmatheson> Crutonman: hold on
[05:17] <Computer__Guru> Crutonman: esound
[05:17] <kubuntu-live> Crutonman: esd-clients, not esd-client
[05:18] <kubuntu-live> esound-clients
[05:18] <cmatheson> oh yeah, that's it
[05:18] <jtan325> but hmmm i gotta see whether there was an option for "default" on gdm login.
[05:18] <Computer__Guru> ;)
[05:18] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah, otherwise it will just load the openbox wm and ignore your xsession file
[05:19] <Crutonman> That did not seem to fix the problem
[05:19] <Crutonman> It is still telling me that it is in use
[05:19] <jtan325> cmatheson, yeah that was exactly what was happening
[05:19] <jtan325> cmatheson, i did a hackerish sorta thing though... you know how you can select "openbox" from gdm login?
[05:19] <cmatheson> jtan325: yeah?
[05:20] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you ran 'esdctl standby'?
[05:20] <jtan325> well, i made a script 'startopenbox', put it in /usr/bin, and that's what actually gets executed if you choose the openbox option
[05:20] <jtan325> and the script will check if there is a startup file in ~/.config/openbox
[05:20] <cmatheson> jtan325: oooh, not bad (although stuff you make yourself should probably be put in /usr/local/bin
[05:20] <cmatheson> rad
[05:20] <jtan325> if there is, then execute that script with "exec"
[05:20] <jtan325> cmatheson, this was inspired by fluxbox's model
[05:21] <jtan325> because for the life of me, no one in this channel knew how to make gdm use .xsession
[05:21] <jtan325> so i had to take matters into my own hands :-)
[05:21] <nalioth_zZz> jtan325: yes, things you install should go in /usr/local/
[05:21] <Computer__Guru> i hope you brought a tissue along
[05:21] <Crutonman> cmatheson: Yes, and no errors
[05:21] <Computer__Guru> protein stains are hard to get out of clothes :>
[05:21] <Kyral> how do I build a package after downloading the source with apt?
[05:21] <cmatheson> Crutonman: try 'killall esd' and then do it
[05:22] <cmatheson> er, and then run your cedega stuff
[05:22] <Computer__Guru> try killall -9 esd
[05:22] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: you need to "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"
[05:22] <Kyral> figured it out anyway :P
[05:23] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: then "sudo apt-get source -b <samepkgname>"
[05:23] <Kyral> yah
[05:23] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: then "sudo dpkg - <builtpkg.deb>"
[05:23] <Computer__Guru> you mean sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[05:23] <jtan325> cmatheson, how stable is the CVS openbox
[05:23] <kubuntu-live> jtan325: gdm will execute ~/.xsession if you choose Default [System...]
[05:24] <jtan325> haha yeah
[05:24] <kubuntu-live> kdm does the same thing
[05:24] <jtan325> after two days of searching
[05:24] <BeatYou> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1835551,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594
[05:24] <jtan325> finally get like 3 people who know the answer :-)
[05:24] <BeatYou> is there a patcy for zlip on the repos ?
[05:24] <BeatYou> patch*
[05:25] <nalioth_zZz> Computer__Guru: please preface users nicks when you address them (makes it a lot easier on everyone)
[05:25] <cmatheson> jtan325: i haven't had any problems at all yet
[05:25] <nalioth_zZz> Computer__Guru: and kyral knows what i mean
[05:25] <jtan325> cmatheson, what is the cvs version?
[05:25] <Crutonman> That killall -9 esd worked?
[05:25] <Crutonman> err change the ? to a .
[05:25] <jtan325> cmatheson, and what kind of patches are you doing?
[05:25] <Crutonman> Is there a way anyone knows of to not have to do that everytime I start the game though?
[05:25] <Kyral> Computer__Guru, I actually have it set to "dpkgI"
[05:26] <Computer__Guru> heh
[05:26] <cmatheson> jtan325: i'm actually working on righting my own patches right now (none are done yet... the source-code is really sucky to hack because of the lack of commments)
[05:26] <Crutonman> And on a side note, how do I force quit the force quit window
[05:26] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you could make an esd.conf so that it autosleeps after 30 seconds of no activity or whatever
[05:26] <cmatheson> Crutonman: read the docs... i can't remember how to do it
[05:27] <cmatheson> jtan325: cvs is just the development version... the openbox.org has instructions on how to get it
[05:27] <Crutonman> cmatheson: Are these docs under man esd? I'm not really sure what i've done let alone where to look for documentation
[05:27] <Computer__Guru> my god, man, what have you done?!?
[05:27] <Computer__Guru> :D
[05:27] <Crutonman> lol
[05:27] <bonny> how do you restart esd
[05:27] <bonny> ?
[05:27] <phzi> killall esd
[05:27] <phzi> esd
[05:28] <phzi> lol
[05:28] <Computer__Guru> bonny: sudo killall -9 esd && sudo esd &
[05:28] <jtan325> cmatheson, i am a comp. sci. student, maybe openbox can provide me with something to do on weekends :-)
[05:28] <Computer__Guru> doesnt esd have an init.d scrtipt?
[05:28] <Crutonman> And I really need to figure out how to force quit the force quit window
[05:28] <Crutonman> Its just sitting there on top of everything
[05:28] <Crutonman> With no way to close it
[05:28] <KptnKrill> Hi, I'm stuck in console after a borked upgrade to breezy badger.
[05:29] <Computer__Guru> ask your questions int he channel, please. do not pm me
[05:29] <KptnKrill> Can someone point me to a url were I can fetch the breezy badger iso?
[05:29] <cmatheson> jtan325: haha, yeah that's what i'm looking for
[05:29] <Kyral> KptnKrill, your problem was upgrading to Breezy now
[05:29] <KptnKrill> I'm without apt, and without a text-based browser :|
[05:29] <KptnKrill> oh :|
[05:29] <cmatheson> jtan325: i start school in fall... hopefully i'll be able to start taking some cs classes
[05:29] <KptnKrill> what happened to breezy?
[05:29] <Kyral> Breezy != Stable now
[05:29] <Crutonman> It blew away
[05:29] <KptnKrill> I know that.
[05:29] <Crutonman> When hurricane dennis came
[05:30] <nalioth_zZz> Kyral: for today, you mean?
[05:30] <ws_> Computer__Guru, have any advice on how I could get the cvs install of ffmeg to work with faac support?
[05:30] <Kyral> Breezy == Stable in October :D
[05:30] <KptnKrill> So?
[05:30] <Kyral> nalioth_zZz, I meant for general use
[05:30] <nalioth_zZz> ws_: where did you go?
[05:30] <KptnKrill> what's your point, stable or not, it should still work.
[05:30] <cmatheson> Crutonman: yeah, it's just man esd
[05:30] <KptnKrill> I'm not a general user...
[05:30] <Crutonman> cmatheson: Thanks
[05:30] <ws_> sorry I got disconnected not sure how
[05:30] <Computer__Guru> ws_: was that english? heh, no clue man.. i just sorta manage to hack myw ay through all of this
[05:30] <KptnKrill> I'm simply looking for the url.
[05:30] <ws_> there we go
[05:30] <bonny> what is the "-9" into killall -9 esd ?
[05:30] <Crutonman> Is there some kind of task manager equivelant for linux?
[05:30] <Crutonman> really need to kill off this window here
[05:30] <crimsun> there are many equivalents
[05:30] <nalioth_zZz> ws_: you need libfaad, libfaac, and then you need to get into the mplayer source dir
[05:31] <KptnKrill> xkill
[05:31] <WS> Crutonman, qps
[05:31] <Kyral> Crutonman, System monitor
[05:31] <Computer__Guru> kill -9 is explicit. if it's tuck or zombied, it will die unconditionally
[05:31] <cmatheson> bonny: that forces it to die (it's messy)
[05:31] <cmatheson> bonny: normally you shouldn't need that
[05:31] <nalioth_zZz> WS: and type ./configure --help     and enable all the codecs you want it to play
[05:31] <WS> to encode stuff?
[05:31] <cmatheson> Crutonman: you could use xkill
[05:31] <WS> not decode
[05:31] <bonny> ok thank
[05:31] <WS> I want to end up encoding PSP stuff
[05:32] <WS> ffmpegX and pspvideo9 are OSX and windows versions of ffmpeg that support it
[05:32] <WS> I'm having hell with it in linux
[05:32] <Crutonman> I will be right back.  I use libfaad after using JHymn on the files.
[05:35] <Davey> JHymn?
[05:35] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego: yes, but i was not gonna say that in here
[05:35] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: DVD Jon broke it in like 30 minutes or something :-)
[05:35] <crimsun> Davey: yup.
[05:35] <Davey> crimsun: where can I get that?
[05:35] <crimsun> (google)
[05:35] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: There's a subtle difference between technically illegal and morally correct
[05:35] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego: i know lots of things that i don't talk about in here
[05:36] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: This one time, at band camp... ;-)
[05:36] <cafuego> nalioth_zZz: Still, telling someone it's possibly and referring them to google isn't a problem I reckon.
[05:36] <cafuego> And if it is, it shopuldn't be
[05:37] <nalioth_zZz> Davey: should you find one day, that your files have been freed, libfaad will be required for aac/mp4 files, i believe
[05:37] <Davey> crimsun: theres no linux build that I can see :/
[05:37] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego: well, in that case.. .. ..(i'll keep that in mind)
[05:37] <KptnKrill> can someone please point me to the url of an iso
[05:37] <crimsun> Davey: (Java)
[05:37] <KptnKrill> at this point any iso will do
[05:37] <KptnKrill> ubuntu, gentoo, I dun care any more.
[05:38] <crimsun> KptnKrill: click the download link
[05:38] <KptnKrill> crimsun: no browser
[05:38] <KptnKrill> and a borked
[05:38] <KptnKrill> apt-get
[05:38] <crimsun> you have links
[05:38] <GigaClon> what do I need to enable mp3 support
[05:38] <GigaClon> i have xmms
[05:38] <KptnKrill> I don't have links
[05:38] <crimsun> GigaClon: gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:38] <KptnKrill> I need a url.
[05:38] <KptnKrill> I have wget.
[05:38] <crimsun> KptnKrill: are you using Breezy?
[05:38] <cafuego> KptnKrill: Any url?
[05:39] <Razor-X> back
[05:39] <KptnKrill> any that points to an iso :)
[05:39] <crimsun> KptnKrill: use w3m
[05:39] <KptnKrill> can't...
[05:39] <KptnKrill> I have a borked apt-get...
[05:39] <KptnKrill> you don't seem to be understanding...
[05:39] <Razor-X> crimsun: in emacs ;)
[05:39] <crimsun> KptnKrill: w3m is installed by default
[05:39] <sizzam> whats the easiest way to find the distro name and version you are running?
[05:39] <KptnKrill> I don't have w3m... I stripped out the garbage after I installed.
[05:40] <KptnKrill> please.  I'm only asking for a url :|
[05:40] <KptnKrill> If there were anyother solution I'd have taken it by now
[05:40] <GigaClon> KptnKrill: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[05:40] <KptnKrill> thank you so much :D
[05:40] <KptnKrill> you're my hero :D
[05:41] <cmatheson> anyone ever dual-booted a win2000 box w/ linux?
[05:41] <crimsun> next time, don't strip out "garbage" like a cli web browser
[05:41] <KptnKrill> well I thought that links was installed :|
[05:41] <sizzam> lynx?
[05:41] <KptnKrill> yah, lynx rather.
[05:41] <crimsun> cmatheson: a while ago, yes.
[05:42] <cafuego> cmatheson: Yes, it's trivial.  Caveat: don't use any unless deathly necessary.
[05:46] <cafuego> WS: dpkg -i --force[option]  - see dpkg -force-help
[05:46] <WS> mk
[05:46] <WS> i need a different version of ffmpeg to work... but it isnt compiling right
[05:47] <cmatheson> cafuego: i'll check that out... any idea why it would kind of 'freeze up' at the initial grub stage 1.5 line though?
[05:48] <valtaric> computer guru are you still there?
[05:48] <cmatheson> jtan325: oh that's too bad... maybe aterm's still gotta bug?
[05:48] <Razor-X> anyone wanna see a screenshot of my desktop?
[05:48] <sizzam> sure
[05:49] <Razor-X> http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/snapshot5.png
[05:49] <Razor-X> that there is _technically_ not a desktop, but the desktop I use ;)
[05:49] <valtaric> hey can anyone help me get mplayer into a .deb file?
[05:49] <crimsun> valtaric: the version in multiverse doesn't work for you?
[05:49] <sizzam> razor-x:  do you see any lag during boot time using eterm?
[05:50] <zenlunatic> Razor-X: why do you use opera? its not free software
[05:50] <Razor-X> sizzam: I don't start Eterm at bootup, but Eterm loading time is incredibly speedy
[05:50] <jtan325> cmatheson, oh well. i am going to check out this thing called "devil's pie"
[05:50] <valtaric> i was trying what another person was telling me but didn;t work so i tried d/l the program but i need to turn it into a .deb for it to work i think..
[05:50] <cmatheson> jtan325: rad, i've never heard of it
[05:50] <BeatYou> how do i extract a .tgz
[05:50] <Razor-X> and the little icon you see at the top-left, that's the best part about compiling ;), even better than the native twin support
[05:50] <jtan325> cmatheson, i "only" have a 17 inch screen, so maybe it will help with keeping my real estate...
[05:50] <crimsun> tar xzf
[05:50] <cmatheson> BeatYou: tar xzvf foobar.tgz
[05:50] <Razor-X> BeatYou: tar -xvzf .tgz
[05:50] <cmatheson> jtan325: haha
[05:51] <BeatYou> crimsun cmatheson Razor-X i have tried that, says not in gzip format ?
[05:51] <crimsun> then it's named incorrectly. Try tar xf
[05:51] <crimsun> mozilla used to have such issues
[05:51] <cmatheson> BeatYou: sounds corrupted
[05:52] <BeatYou> the fiel is ircd-hybrid-7.1.0.tgz
[05:52] <Razor-X> BeatYou: you gonna compile ircd?
[05:52] <valtaric> hey crimsum can you help me get mplayer onto my sys.?
[05:52] <BeatYou> hopefully haha
[05:52] <Razor-X> BeatYou: well... that's a little startling if you don't know extraction commands ;)
[05:52] <blrich> could someone help? having problems setting up my netgear 802.11g ath5212 wireless card
[05:52] <crimsun> valtaric: did you try the version in multiverse? (my previous question)
[05:53] <valtaric> i have no clue waht mulityverse is i'm new to linux/ubuntu.
[05:53] <BeatYou> was corrupted archive
[05:53] <crimsun> valtaric: find Synaptic in the System >... menu
[05:53] <jtan325> cmatheson, do you use a pager?
[05:53] <valtaric> k
[05:54] <valtaric> k synaptic packge is open
[05:54] <sizzam> im looking for a simple ftp server to set up.  i want to set up 1 user and no anonymous access
[05:54] <crimsun> valtaric: now go to Settings> Repositories
[05:55] <valtaric> k
[05:55] <valtaric> there
[05:55] <tarvid> struggling with wp8 on ubuntu
[05:55] <crimsun> valtaric: now click Add
[05:55] <valtaric> k
[05:55] <cmatheson> jtan325: i don't, i keep thinking about getting one
[05:55] <tarvid> faq suggests I have libsafe enabled
[05:55] <tarvid> but the instructions on how to turn it off don't seem to apply
[05:56] <blrich> struggling with my wireless card which should work 'out fo the box' according to wiki - can someone help? drivers are recognised but interface isn't
[05:56] <crimsun> valtaric: now select the bottom two that are currently unchecked
[05:56] <tarvid> any hints on running libc5 programs on ubuntu?
[05:56] <valtaric> ok
[05:56] <cmatheson> tarvid: can you recompile from source?
[05:56] <tarvid> no, the target iw wp8
[05:57] <valtaric> do irefresh it and do a search for mplayer now?
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> valtaric: whats the last thing you did?
[05:58] <valtaric> i tried what you told me but it wasn;t working.
[05:58] <valtaric> so i'm trying it in mulitiverse now..
[05:58] <jwb> is there a simple way to remove a line from loadmodules in the initrd?
[05:58] <crouton> phzi: hey, you still about?
[05:58] <Computer__Guru> did you uncomment all 4 universe lines from /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:58] <jwb> my loadmodules has ide-scsi and i don't want it there.  it's not in /etc/mkinitrd/modules, either
[05:59] <valtaric> maybe... i'm new to the whole linux/ubuntu thing so i'm not sure.. lmao
[05:59] <Computer__Guru> no, its in universe
[05:59] <monk> i'm having a real battle with my dvd/cd burner
[05:59] <sizzam> anyone use the webmin utility for pure-ftpd?
[05:59] <Computer__Guru> pm me
[05:59] <tarvid> cmatheson, i installed libc5 and libc5-compat entries are created in /etc/ld.so/conf but they are empty
[05:59] <valtaric> .?
[05:59] <tarvid> that is the directories they point to are empty
[05:59] <tarvid> the wp8 faq suggests I am running libsafe
[05:59] <monk> i pop in a blank cdrw, and it won't recognize that i've put anything in.  i manually blank it with cdrecord and it pops up nautilus in burn:/// mode, but it doesn't see a cd recorder to burn to.
[06:00] <monk> it does the same thing with dvds (with the exception of having to blank them)
[06:00] <blrich> please, can anyone help me?
[06:01] <monk> blrich: what's the prob?
[06:01] <crimsun> valtaric: ok, got multiverse and universe added?
[06:02] <blrich> monk, i can't setup my wireless card, even though the wiki says it's supported
[06:02] <monk> and dmesg is griping that "This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize"
[06:02] <blrich> i have a netgear pci wireless 802.11abg, with an ath5212 chipset
[06:02] <monk> blrich: what have you done so far?
[06:02] <blrich> it says it's supposed to come up as ath0 interface, but it doesn't
[06:02] <blrich> drivers for it are auto-loaded on startup
[06:02] <monk> what does dmesg say?
[06:03] <tarvid> blrich, i have an atheros card working the Proxim wd-8470
[06:03] <blrich> tarvid, those are drivers?
[06:03] <blrich> monk, will check brb
[06:03] <crimsun> blrich: what does ,,ip a'' tell you? (use the pastebin in the topic)
[06:03] <blrich> monk root@blackbox:/home/blrich # dmesg | grep ath
[06:03] <blrich> ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
[06:03] <blrich> ath_hal: <IP_ADDRESS> (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212)
[06:03] <blrich> ath_rate_onoe: 1.0
[06:03] <blrich> ath_pci: <IP_ADDRESS> (EXPERIMENTAL)
[06:03] <blrich> ath%d: unable to attach hardware; HAL status 13
[06:03] <tarvid> blrich, installed ubuntu with the card installed and it worked
[06:04] <tarvid> this is an 802.11 b/g card (not trimode)
[06:04] <blrich> tarvid, how do i use those proxim drivers?
[06:04] <tarvid> blrich, they were installed automatically. There are madwifi drivers and ath0 does show up. I didn't do anything special to get them to work.
[06:05] <blrich> crimsun, root@blackbox:/home/blrich # ip a
[06:05] <blrich> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
[06:05] <blrich>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[06:05] <blrich>     inet <IP_ADDRESS>/8 scope host lo
[06:05] <blrich>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[06:05] <blrich>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[06:05] <blrich> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
[06:05] <blrich>     link/ether 00:11:d8:78:37:10 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[06:05] <blrich>     inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 brd <IP_ADDRESS> scope global eth0
[06:05] <blrich>     inet6 fe80::211:d8ff:fe78:3710/64 scope link
[06:05] <blrich>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[06:05] <blrich> 3: sit0: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop
[06:05] <blrich>     link/sit <IP_ADDRESS> brd <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <blrich> tarvid, will chck it out hang on
[06:05] <cafuego> blrich: See the 'EXPERIMENTAL' bit?
[06:05] <crimsun> blrich: (please use #flood or the pastebin in the topic next time)
[06:05] <crouton> whoa.. no flooding
[06:05] <crouton> pastebin, son
[06:05] <blrich> cafuego, no, what?
[06:06] <cafuego> blrich: [14:03]  <blrich> ath_pci: <IP_ADDRESS> (EXPERIMENTAL)
[06:06] <cafuego> blrich: probably not gunna work.
[06:06] <GigaClon> !divx
[06:06] <ubotu> No idea, GigaClon
[06:06] <blrich> tarvid, can't find any drivers in /lib/modules/....net/wireless that match madwifi or proxim
[06:06] <crimsun> GigaClon: w32codecs in debian-marillat
[06:06] <cafuego> GigaClon: iki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <blrich> cafuego, ah, good point. well i'm doing an update now, i only installed 1hour ago
[06:06] <cafuego> s/iki/wiki/
[06:07] <cafuego> blrich: You may end up having to use ndiswrapper
[06:07] <blrich> cafuego, well that should work. and according to wiki, so should ath5212 drivers
[06:07] <blrich> hmm
[06:08] <misfit_toy> blrich, ndiswrapper works well for these things.
[06:08] <monk> should a computer/OS all of a sudden stop being able to recognize blank optical media?
[06:08] <cafuego> monk: No, it should not but it can happen.
[06:08] <monk> cafuego: any particular reason?
[06:08] <cafuego> monk: Normally means the drive is busted.
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: I've had two do that
[06:09] <monk> cafuego: don't tell me that...this is a *brand* new machine
[06:09] <monk> well - a month old
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: Mine was brand new too.
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: Sony gave me a new one.
[06:09] <blrich> well my lspci says this
[06:09] <blrich> 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[06:09] <cafuego> monk: Warranty is your friend, usually ;-)
[06:09] <blrich> does that mean anything?
[06:09] <againstme> can someone please private message me about using alien and installing non deb packages on ubuntu?
[06:09] <againstme> thanks
[06:10] <blrich> would seem to say it's an ar5212 which should work
[06:10] <cafuego> againstme: alien foo.rpm; dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:10] <Razor-X> I never used wget on an https :(
[06:10] <Razor-X> I keep getting forbidden
[06:11] <HostingGeek> LOL
[06:11] <HostingGeek> Look at what I just found
[06:11] <HostingGeek> do apt-get moo
[06:11] <monk> cafuego: yeah - they're going to love hearing from me.  "You remember that laptop you sent me?  The one with Winblows?  Well, the first thing that I did was wipe Winblows off of it and put a *real* OS on it.  And my DVD burner is busted.  You need to send me a new one."  "I'm sorry sir, you're running an unsupported operating system.  We can't help you."
[06:11] <HostingGeek> you don't need to be root
[06:11] <HostingGeek>          (__)
[06:11] <HostingGeek>          (oo)
[06:11] <HostingGeek>    /------\/
[06:11] <HostingGeek>   / |    ||
[06:11] <HostingGeek>  *  /\---/\
[06:11] <HostingGeek>     ~~   ~~
[06:11] <Razor-X> is this cowspeak?
[06:11] <HostingGeek> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[06:11] <cafuego> monk: <heh> Time to put windows back on and check if the drive works in that.
[06:11] <Razor-X> HostingGeek: install cowspeak ;)
[06:11] <HostingGeek> I just did it
[06:12] <cafuego> Also see 'moomoo(en|de)code'
[06:12] <holycow> with a little bit more polish inkscape is going to be a pretty darn good little vector illustrator
[06:12] <monk> cafuego: mmmmm....don't know if i wanna do that.....
[06:12] <HostingGeek> E: Invalid operation moomooencode
[06:13] <crimsun> HostingGeek: c'mon, you know better than to flood
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> hey all, UbuntuLinux Live is saving my butt
[06:13] <trevor_> Anyone know the apt source.list for bluefish?
[06:13] <holycow> hows that nomasteryoda
[06:13] <trevor_> editor*
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> had UPS powerfailure and had to boot up with it
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> to get to my hdb data
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> ... /home
[06:13] <Razor-X> hah, a UPS powerfailure
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> to copy to a sata drive i just installed yesterday
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> yea
[06:14] <Razor-X> now tohse happen often ;)
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> Razor-X, it flipped off, on, off, on
[06:14] <Razor-X> XD
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> hosed the superblock
[06:14] <Razor-X> take that UPS!!!
[06:14] <holycow> nomasteryoda, kanotix and knoppix have come in hand for many a similar situation indeedy
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> and sling it
[06:14] <Razor-X> *those
[06:14] <bimberi> trevor_: it's in the "universe" repository
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> holycow, yes
[06:14] <cafuego> Stupid bot
[06:14] <Razor-X> I met Kano
[06:14] <Razor-X> he's a cool guy
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> I just had a nice shiny new set of Ubuntu disks got from a friend
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> cool
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> I like kanotix
[06:15] <trevor_> bimberi: where can i read about "universe" im unsure what is or how i can use it
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> have the dvd qemu edtion of knoppix 4.0
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> nice
[06:15] <bimberi> trevor: ...
[06:15] <crimsun> trevor_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages
[06:15] <bimberi> !repositories
[06:15] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> even has the kitchensync
[06:16] <odyssey> !mp3
[06:16] <ubotu> odyssey: I don't know
[06:16] <tarvid> blrich, are u there?
[06:16] <cafuego> Crud, I can't find the moomooencode source, all I got are libc5 binaries.
[06:17] <harris|u> !win32codec
[06:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, harris|u
[06:17] <harris|u> bleh, am I searching for the right thing -- to play .wma files?
[06:17] <cafuego> !tell harris|u -about w32codecs
[06:17] <seth_k> harris|u: w32codecs
[06:18] <odyssey> its not a very handy bot really
[06:18] <seth_k> harris|u: you can find them in Backports
[06:18] <harris|u> okay, thanks
[06:18] <thilo> Hi. has anybody of you a samsung notebook running with ubuntu?
[06:18] <HostingGeek> crimsun: me flood? never
[06:19] <misfit_toy> thilo, no dude, I got a Dell! ;)
[06:19] <againstme>  powerbook
[06:19] <cafuego> poor misfit_toy
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> thilo, no, but I got an old Sony 505 working with it
[06:19] <sizzam> i need some help with webmin login problems, setting up for first time
[06:19] <odyssey> thilo if you want to know if it works check the wiki
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> wow
[06:20] <harris|u> seth_k, what do you suggest doing -- the download keeps timing out and I can't seem to get the codecs
[06:20] <Razor-X> cowsay is so awesome!
[06:20] <againstme> can someone please pm me for help with alien and installing non deb packages
[06:20] <misfit_toy> cafuego, this dell laptop SUCKED on xp, so I put ubuntu on it, it is cruisin' now
[06:20] <cafuego> misfit_toy: Mine all sucked; got a batch of 5. Some are on their 3rd mobo.
[06:21] <GigaClon> misfit_toy: same here
[06:21] <cafuego> misfit_toy: As in: the hardware failed. Never mind the software.
[06:21] <seth_k> harris|u: from backports?
[06:21] <misfit_toy> cafuego, I work for a bank, we used to get all Dell shit, we switched to HP recently
[06:21] <harris|u> seth_k, yes using synaptic to get them
[06:21] <GigaClon> againstme: alien -d /path/to/rpm
[06:21] <cafuego> misfit_toy: Yeah, my current one is an HP.
[06:21] <seth_k> harris|u: dialup? the codecs are huge
[06:22] <trevor_> oh now thats sweet
[06:22] <trevor_> thanks
[06:22] <cafuego> Due for replacement next year.
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, I have 2 hp's here and 4 dells, they all work great with ubuntu
[06:22] <harris|u> seth_k, no, DSL
[06:22] <againstme> is that installing alien?
[06:22] <seth_k> harris|u: are you using mirrormax backports mirror?
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: All 5 Dells are dead. The HPs work fine, as do the G4's.
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, laptops?
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: yes
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, which model?
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: CPtS 500
[06:22] <cafuego> misfit_toy: They had a design flaw.
[06:22] <misfit_toy> cafuego, ouch
[06:23] <misfit_toy> cafuego, yes they did
[06:23] <cafuego> misfit_toy: keyboard controlelr broke a LOT.
[06:23] <misfit_toy> cafuego, I remember
[06:23] <misfit_toy> lol
[06:23] <harris|u> seth_k, yes
[06:23] <cafuego> but you know, at the end the repair guy knew to ask for a coffee when he turned up
[06:23] <fileserver> anyone here give perl lessons?
[06:23] <JDahl> do you have problems with Dell Optiplex? I have a couple of those, and they randomly crash
[06:23] <cafuego> !stab remanufacturing
[06:23] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[06:24] <seth_k> harris|u: that is the most heavily used mirror... maybe try using another? I don't uses backports myself, so that's just a guess
[06:24] <misfit_toy> cafuego, yeah, when we have our older dell servers like the 2650's serviced, that's the first thing, 'would you like some coffee?"
[06:24] <amittp> does ubuntu support any repository for j2sdk1.4.2?
[06:24] <bimberi> harris|u: another backports mirror is http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/
[06:24] <elshadii> can someone please give me advise on how to install oo.org beta in Hoary?  i see a ton of install scripts but they are all giving 404's
[06:24] <harris|u> bimberi, okay thanks
[06:24] <seth_k> harris|u: I see the newest backports mirror is listed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46459
[06:25] <cafuego> misfit_toy: Most of my clients use HP/Compaq servers these days. The only service they've needed is ripping out a drive and plugging in a new one on failure, twice.
[06:25] <seth_k> elshadii: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines about "universe"
[06:25] <crimsun> amittp: no, but you can easily generate a Java deb
[06:25] <seth_k> elshadii: then you can install it through synaptic (1.9.79)
[06:25] <cafuego> misfit_toy: But that's not too abd over 4 years and 6 servers.
[06:25] <crimsun> amittp: see the java-package package
[06:25] <harris|u> seth_k, okay when i update the mirror - do I need to do apt-get update or anything?
[06:25] <cafuego> elshadii: apt-get install openoffice.org2
[06:25] <seth_k> harris|u: that's correct. sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <amittp> crimsun, thanks
[06:26] <elshadii> ok thanks
[06:26] <blrich> can someone tell me how i can get xfce for ubuntu?
[06:26] <Razor-X> since I started logging this channel yesterday, and with the intermittent leaves i've taken, I have logged up 29450 lines of log
[06:27] <misfit_toy> cafuego, we have nearly 2000 servers, about .25 Dell and the rest HP/Compaq
[06:27] <IceDC571> blrich: sudo aptitude install xfce4
[06:27] <Razor-X> !info xfce4
[06:27] <ubotu> xfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:27] <blrich> what's aptitude?
[06:27] <IceDC571> !info aptitude
[06:27] <ubotu> aptitude: (terminal-based apt frontend), section admin, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu12 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 4804 kB
[06:27] <Razor-X> aptitude is awesome
[06:27] <Razor-X> I reccomend it wholeheartedly
[06:27] <Aerebus> anyone know the command to delete a folder and everything in it? rm -d folername?
[06:27] <crimsun> rm -rf
[06:27] <concept10> misfit_toy, hello my friend
[06:27] <IceDC571> Aerebus: rm -rf filename
[06:27] <Razor-X> Aerebus: rm -r foldername
[06:28] <Razor-X> errr, -rf
[06:28] <Razor-X> uggghhh, dired has made me lazy ;)
[06:28] <Aerebus> lol ty
[06:28] <IceDC571> no one got it right lol
[06:28] <blrich> no packages matching xfce, or xfce4
[06:28] <misfit_toy> concept10, wassup mang?
[06:28] <Razor-X> !repos
[06:28] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:28] <qt2> is 7zip compression goood enough to squeeze 9.8 gb down into 1,8gb? o.o;
[06:28] <crimsun> IceDC571: "no one?"
[06:28] <blrich> !repos
[06:28] <IceDC571> crimsun: ahh, you did
[06:28] <blrich> !repos
[06:29] <concept10> misfit_toy, nothing much.  How was the weekend?
[06:29] <misfit_toy> has ANYbody found the fix for the 99% cpu problem with gnome?
[06:29] <misfit_toy> concept10, HOT
[06:29] <crimsun> IceDC571: so did you
[06:29] <againstme> a good place to get .deb packages?
[06:29] <IceDC571> theres a 99% cpu problem with gnome?
[06:29] <concept10> misfit_toy, when do you have that problem?
[06:29] <IceDC571> dont tell me its possible to reproduce it
[06:29] <JDahl> qt2, that depends on what you are compressing, of course... unless you have 10gb textfiles, it doesnt sound likely
[06:30] <misfit_toy> concept10, I had it in FC and Ubuntu both, suddenly the cpu spikes to 99% and stays there unless you reboot....top and ps don't report any errant apps..
[06:30] <seth_k> blrich: aptitude pwns all </late>
[06:30] <againstme> need help with alien
[06:30] <misfit_toy> concept10, it's random too
[06:30] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: it might be a problem with your specific hardware?
[06:30] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, that's my guess
[06:30] <qt2> JDahl, roms... XD
[06:31] <concept10> misfit_toy, the only time I see a problem similar to that is when some website use too much flash
[06:31] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: have you tried running memtest86 to see if there are any conflicts in your memory?
[06:31] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, I almost think it's this wifi card, but I didn't have it with FC, so I'm thinking it might be wifi itself with Gnome
[06:31] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: ahh, alright
[06:31] <JDahl> qt2, in that case - probably... I doubt 20 year old Pacman roms are compressed in any way
[06:31] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, yeah, ran memtest a billion times in the last few months
[06:32] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: hah.. what sad lives we live running memtest
[06:32] <misfit_toy> concept10, this used to be an issue with udev, but they fixed that, so I say it's GNOME dammit
[06:32] <qt2> JDahl, heh, snes... :o
[06:32] <qt2> any woot \o/
[06:33] <misfit_toy> the problem is that you can't find what's sucking the cpu
[06:33] <misfit_toy> pisses me off
[06:33] <tarvid> blrich, my card is a 5212 card also and is using the ath-pci drivers
[06:33] <misfit_toy> so yeah, it must be this DELL laptop, lmao
[06:33] <misfit_toy> otherwise it rocks
[06:33] <fr500> hello
[06:33] <JDahl> againstme, you need to be more specific... also dont expect alien to always work out dependencies correctly (I think)
[06:34] <harris|u> Can someone help me with this error - Totem could not play 'file:///home/harris/bball-game.wmv'. - I just installed the w32codecs but I'm still getting it
[06:34] <IceDC571> oh wait im using an intel right now, damn!
[06:34] <fr500> i am trying to install bind9 from synaptic, but i get MD5 checksum error, any workarounds?
[06:34] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, lol
[06:34] <blrich> tarvid, so does mine but it doesn't work
[06:35] <bimberi> !usmirror
[06:35] <ubotu> somebody said usmirror was if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror. Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <misfit_toy> damn cats keep knockin' up the neighborhood slut cats
[06:35] <blrich> bbl
[06:35] <concept10> heh
[06:35] <concept10> alley cats
[06:35] <fr500> ubotu, gonna try, thanks
[06:35] <ubotu> fr500: I give up, what is it?
[06:35] <IceDC571> im trying to get a linux pc for $300.. any of you have any reccomendations for hardware?
[06:35] <IceDC571> misfit_toy: i like intels.. but their new socket design is just... strange
[06:36] <misfit_toy> concept10, yeah, this one cute little bitch cat keeps begging for it and my male cats just mount /mnt/female /mnt/slut
[06:36] <concept10> IceDC571, do you have any components that you are going to reuse?
[06:36] <againstme> how do you run alien from ubuntu?
[06:36] <IceDC571> concept10: im going to reuse my 80gb sata drive and thats about it
[06:36] <fr500> againstme, sudo alien rpm_file
[06:36] <concept10> misfit_toy, have you been drinking tonight?
[06:37] <misfit_toy> IceDC571, I'm more involved in software lately so I am SO far behind in the hardware world..even though I build servers daily, I just build what they give me and support the web sites on them.
[06:37] <againstme> from the terminal?
[06:37] <crouton> lol
[06:37] <fr500> is anyone using ubuntu as a server?
[06:37] <misfit_toy> concept10, of course!
[06:37] <fr500> i mean, big server
[06:37] <crimsun> well the entire ubuntu.com domain does
[06:37] <IceDC571> lol well that might be obvious
[06:37] <fr500> oh
[06:37] <misfit_toy> ok, time for bed in a few, l8r y'all
[06:38] <aru> I went to a local computer recycler and got a linux machine for $25
[06:38] <concept10> IceDC571, I would get a A64 motherboard and cpu combo, 512 ram and a cheap video card for about 300
[06:38] <budish76> i use ecs desknote a901 with sis 630 vga
[06:38] <crouton> that'd be like hotmail.com running on IIS... it might now. ;)
[06:38] <budish76> why i cannot do glxgears on console
[06:38] <aru> does that help?
[06:38] <concept10> I have a ubuntu server
[06:38] <againstme> i installed alien from synaptic and ran that sudo alein command and it said alien not found?
[06:38] <concept10> no different than running a debian server
[06:38] <budish76> [sis_alloc.c:154] : Failure to allocate Z buffer. that's the error
[06:39] <fr500> concept10, what services are you hosting?
[06:39] <budish76> anyone know the problem
[06:39] <cmatheson> budish76: you need to get the unofficial drivers for your sis chipset... which one is it?
[06:39] <budish76> xsis
[06:39] <budish76> xsis-svga
[06:39] <cmatheson> budish76: yeah, but which one? 630/730/760/330?
[06:39] <budish76> already installed
[06:39] <budish76> hmmm
[06:39] <asimismo> If I did an update-rc.d without the -f flag, what actually changed?
[06:39] <concept10> againstme,  alien --to-deb package.rpm
[06:39] <concept10>            Convert the package.rpm into a package.deb
[06:39] <budish76> wait a sec
[06:40] <khalid_> hi!
[06:40] <fr500> concept10, i'm in a project, on providing free internet and e-mail services for my city, the "linux routers" are running hoary now with no probs, except some problems with an especific NIC vendor
[06:40] <JDahl> againstme, what is it you need to install?
[06:40] <concept10> fr500, I have apache2 php4 mysql for a mambo CMS
[06:40] <budish76> cmatheson: at synaptic it says SiS 540/630 Linux display driver
[06:40] <budish76> The sis program allow the user to use the sis 540/630 full hardware
[06:40] <budish76> acceleration. It included line drawing, Textout, bitblt & hardware
[06:40] <budish76> cursor....
[06:40] <fr500> concept10, so i wanna knowif it would hold up well for a big mail server
[06:40] <fr500> concept10, ok
[06:41] <concept10> fr500, the same as debian, so well, it shouldnt cause any problems
[06:41] <budish76> actually i use the rpm package then converted to deb
[06:41] <budish76> by alien
[06:41] <JDahl> fr500, what's that got to do with the distro? that depends on the mailserver
[06:41] <fr500> JDahl, i know, but some distros are more stable than others
[06:42] <BeatYou> anyone know an easy way of monitoring ircd-hybrid ?
[06:42] <cmatheson> budish76: go google around for that error... i don't have the link on this box... a guy has written rad drivers for it that will fix that problem though
[06:42] <cmatheson> budish76: whinschoofer or something like that
[06:42] <fr500> JDahl, i had red hat 9 in some routers before, it requiered a reboot every now and then, maybe because of bad quality hardware, i don't know, but doesnt happen with ubuntu
[06:42] <budish76> btw thanks a lot
[06:42] <budish76> i'll googling
[06:43] <fr500> i was running OSPF in the backbone, but it's still a smallish backbone :p
[06:43] <concept10> fr500, you use linux as the router?
[06:43] <fr500> concept10, yes, it's cheaper
[06:43] <fr500> concept10, and works wonders
[06:44] <Computer__Guru> yeah, linux runs better as a router than any router ont he market :D
[06:44] <concept10> fr500, have you tried freebsd?
[06:44] <fr500> concept10, one word: FLEXIBILITY
[06:44] <fr500> concept10, not yet
[06:44] <Computer__Guru> and it'll run as fast as any router out there on a P-II 350 w/64MB RAM
[06:45] <Computer__Guru> if you add a wifi card to it, it'll even do your wireless :D
[06:45] <elshadii> I tried to install muine, it installed but i'm getting a seg fault when trying to import my folder, is there any way I can uninstall it and all of the stuff that was installed along with it?
[06:45] <fr500> concept10, it used to be an ISP, it had debts, so they broke
[06:45] <fr500> concept10, it had like 400clients back then
[06:45] <fr500> we got hold of it, but there are no clients now
[06:46] <bienve> :D
[06:46] <bienve> hi all! :)
[06:46] <jewel> elshadii:  You can type apt-cache show muine and it'll tell you all of the programs that muine depends on
[06:46] <jewel> elshadii:  You can then go and try and remove them in synaptic and see if they try and remove other packages
[06:46] <fr500> just like 20 people connected to the freenet still in testing, we need sponsorship for bandwidth before we can let this grow
[06:46] <elshadii> ok thanks much
[06:46] <edamron> Hi everyone... First time I've used IRC so be gentle :-)
[06:46] <BeatYou> fr500 what are you hosting ? ircd
[06:47] <Razor-X> elshadii: the first lesson to learn on IRC is tab-complete ;)
[06:47] <fr500> BeatYou, we are gonna give free internet and email for the whole city
[06:47] <Razor-X> when addressing one person, rather than typing out their full name, hit <TAB>
[06:47] <fr500> BeatYou, a freenetwork+
[06:47] <edamron> oh tab complete? What's that?
[06:47] <jewel> elshadii:  If it tries to remove a bunch of stuff that you use, then click on edit->unmark all
[06:47] <BeatYou> fr500 cool
[06:47] <BeatYou> with a P2 ?
[06:47] <concept10> fr500, dialup?
[06:47] <fr500> BeatYou, nope, that was that guy's idea
[06:48] <fr500> concept10, no, wifi mostly
[06:48] <pinko>  anybody like file managers?  any thoughts on what good ones are good, and why?
[06:48] <JDahl> Razor-X, then afterwards we'll teach him to keep tabbing until he gets the right nick ;)
[06:48] <HostingGeek> Can we have this in ubuntu http://www.eeggs.com/items/39921.html
[06:48] <Razor-X> JDahl: ;)
[06:48] <HostingGeek> crimsun: maybe you should read that as mdz isn't here
[06:48] <Madpilot> edamron: type the first two or three letter of someone's nick. then hit TAB. autocompletion.
[06:48] <pinko> short attention span prevents waiting around for too many replies.
[06:49] <signbarn> Does anyone have an idea why i can hear my microphone through my speakers, but i can't record with the sound recorder or get sound to work over GnomeMeeting?
[06:49] <edamron> Madpilot kewl
[06:49] <fr500> we have one node now, and 2mbit connection to internet, paid by us, eventually it's gotta be more nodes connected via fiber/wimax to the master node, the clients connect to the nodes using wifi links
[06:49] <edamron> Madpilot, Okay I think I almost got it :-)
[06:49] <fr500> concept10, the clients have to get the equipment by themselves, and being free there is no guaranted level of service
[06:50] <jewel> signbarn:  There are two little icons under each volume control in the capture tab
[06:50] <jewel> signbarn:  The first controls whether or not you hear it through the speakers
[06:50] <Madpilot> edamron: good, that's IRC 101. notice that msgs that start with your nick are highlighted,too.
[06:50] <fr500> concept10, but the free wan links we provide are making lan partys a lot of fun :)
[06:50] <jewel> signbarn:  and the second controls whether or not it will be recorded by applications
[06:50] <dougsk> HostingGeek, that would be a very nice egg.
[06:50] <crimsun> HostingGeek: who says there aren't?
[06:50] <edamron> Madpilot, Yes very kewl.  So am I on some kind of default channel?
[06:51] <jewel> Wasn't there an easter egg on april fools?
[06:51] <blmartin777> How come in a terminal when I try to su and type my password it says authentication failed?
[06:51] <jewel> Some sort of different login screen or something?
[06:51] <iamdaone> I am using Hoary hedgehog
[06:51] <iamdaone> I want to update to the newest Ubuntu distro
[06:51] <jewel> blmartin777:  You haven't set a root password
[06:51] <dougsk> jewel, yeah I seen it I was horrified, teasing
[06:51] <iamdaone> WITHOUT having to format my hardrive
[06:51] <edamron> Madpilot, I don't really understand the layout of IRC yet.
[06:51] <blmartin777> Where do I do that
[06:51] <iamdaone> and then put all my gigs of stuff back on it
[06:51] <jewel> blmartin777:  If you just want a root shell type sudo bash
[06:51] <asimismo> Maybe this is a better question--If I used update-rc.d to prevent a service from starting, how do I get it back to how it was?
[06:52] <jewel> blmartin777:  To set (or change) the root password type sudo passwd
[06:52] <iamdaone> is it possible to upgrade to the latest distro without reformatting the HD
[06:52] <pinko> I am on irc in gaim.  I keep forgetting it can do that.
[06:52] <tim> anyone know what package I need to install in ubuntu to get gFTP to support https?
[06:52] <blmartin777> thanks jewel
[06:52] <concept10> iamdaone, yes
[06:52] <Madpilot> edamron: you're on #ubuntu channel on freenode.net; there are lots (thousands, probably) of servers, and 100x that # of channels
[06:52] <fr500> pinko, you have warty?
[06:52] <iamdaone> how concept10?
[06:52] <jewel> iamdaone:  Yes.  What are you currently running and what to you want to upgrade to?
[06:52] <dougsk> iamdaone, type /topic although it's possible the consequences are high
[06:52] <iamdaone> I am running hoary hedgehog
[06:52] <signbarn> jewel: thank you! i feel retarded :-)
[06:52] <iamdaone> and I want the latest thing
[06:52] <jewel> iamdaone:  That is the latest thing right now
[06:52] <pinko> nope.  hoary.  why, fr500?
[06:52] <iamdaone> yes