[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <ubuntu_user07> is beryl easier to install then xgl?
[03:40] <bruenig> Lunar_Lamp, this aptitude > apt-get stuff and then the "oh I didn't know that apt-get is fundamentally different then what I myself conceived of it as" is very common
[03:40] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, beryl and xgl are not "one or the other". XGL or AIXGL provide functionality that compiz or beryl exploit.
[03:40] <ubuntu_user07> is it difficult to install a 3d desktop?
[03:41] <xtknight> took me 3 lines on Kubuntu
[03:41] <xtknight> beryl wiki
[03:41] <Lunar_Lamp> bruenig, well, it's not a fundamental difference.  In my experience the dependancy resolution of aptitude has been better.  It also requires fewer keystrokes to type with tab-completion ;-)
[03:41] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, depends on your graphics card significantly.
[03:41] <ubuntu_user07> nvidia 5600 xt
[03:42] <bruenig> Lunar_Lamp, it also takes the options out of your hand, and dependency handling is a fundamental difference
[03:42] <ubuntu_user07> its a 128mb card will it be ok?
[03:42] <Lunar_Lamp> ubuntu_user07, well, nvidia instead of ati is a good 1st step in ease of install, however, I've  not used nvidia hardware much, so am not sure much.  128mb will be plenty; yhou don't need a powerful system really.
[03:42] <LM1> can anyone here help me
[03:42] <Lunar_Lamp> LM1, just ask :-)
[03:43] <Lunar_Lamp> bruenig, what does it take out the hand?
[03:43] <LM1> I can't seem to get ubuntu or any linux distro working on my AMD 690 chipset
[03:43] <LM1> locks up on the live cd
[03:43] <LM1> seems to dislike usb, and hard drive controllers
[03:43] <bruenig> Lunar_Lamp, let's say I don't want to remove dependencies on aptitude
[03:43] <xtknight> LM1, the USB and HD controllers in the north/south bridge?
[03:44] <LM1> both
[03:44] <xtknight> LM1, or are they third party?
[03:44] <LM1> oh
[03:44] <xtknight> e.g. nec USB or jmicron IDE
[03:44] <xtknight> they are AMD?
[03:44] <corden> Guys, on what folder/location the synaptic download the selected package? and also do synaptic delete it after the installation/update process finish
[03:44] <LM1> they are the amd 690 chipset... yes th
[03:44] <LM1> on the north and south bridge
[03:44] <bruenig> corden, /var/cache/apt/archives and no it doesn't
[03:44] <LM1> SB400 southbridge
[03:44] <xtknight> sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:44] <xtknight> will remove cache pkgs
[03:44] <corden> tnx bruenig
[03:44] <foug> does anyone use opera? i need help installing flash please
[03:44] <LM1> xp runs great
[03:45] <LM1> but I don't want XP
[03:45] <LM1> :C
[03:45] <server_> i need sudo command to make me root
[03:45] <instabin> I just upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i try to run the restricted drivers manager it tells me to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-14-generic but i can not find that package any where in synaptic
[03:45] <catalyst_media> hey guys I'm wanting opera on ubuntu 7.4 Feisty Fawn do you guys know if Opera supports this version?
[03:46] <bruenig> server_, sudo -i sudo -s sudo su, your pick
[03:46] <bruenig> !feisty | catalyst_media
[03:46] <ubotu> catalyst_media: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:46] <corden> now i can save some space or transfer it to another ubuntu installation :D
[03:46] <LM1> is this kernel specific
[03:46] <Lunar_Lamp> LM1, well, it's a new chipset I believe, so support *may* be sketchy.
[03:46] <bruenig> corden, you don't want to transfer it to another installation unless that other installation is the same version, don't take edgy packages to feisty
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> catalyst_media, it should
[03:46] <Lunar_Lamp> LM1, you may want try some google investigating.
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> i have it and i tworks fine
[03:46] <Hirvinen> foug: Ubuntu wiki has instructions for installing the flash plugin. Then in Opera under Tools -> Preferences -> advanced -> content -> plugins or something like that, set the plugin search directory to include the firefox and mozilla plugin directories.
[03:46] <catalyst_media> yeah I have it right now, but I would liek to know if Opera works on it though :)
[03:47] <LM1> what should I search for
[03:47] <catalyst_media> oh thanks indygunfreak
[03:47] <bitmess> Is there a way to make Automatix run on Feisty?
[03:47] <bruenig> Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:47] <Lunar_Lamp> catalyst_media, just try installing it via synaptic/aptitude
[03:47] <foug> Hirvinen: i'm there, having trouble installing motif
[03:47] <bruenig> !automatix | bitmess
[03:47] <ubotu> bitmess: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:47] <instabin> anyone know what i should do ?
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> bitmess, yes
[03:47] <LM1> ugg
[03:47] <riffic> a bit of a problem with feisty beta and usb mice.. they're locking up for some weird reason
[03:48] <LM1> I feel so dirty using windows xp as my primary OS
[03:48] <server_> i use the sudo command but when i go to drag and drop my index.htm file into my /var/www folder it says i have no permissions
[03:48] <Harpette> foug: there's an ##opera channel here
[03:48] <catalyst_media> synaptic doesn't have it
[03:48] <LM1> like I want to sit in the shower and
[03:48] <LM1> scrub myself
[03:48] <LM1> anyone else get that?
[03:48] <bruenig> bitmess, there really is no reason to. Even excepting the issues of system breakage, feisty has been made to auto detect codecs and install
[03:48] <Infinity__> My friend just downloaded the latest Fiesty Update and now is unable to boot back into ubuntu. The update changed something with his kernal... Is there any way he can salvage his system?
[03:48] <instabin> catalyst_media where do i get it?
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, lol, you really crack me up with this system breakage thing
[03:48] <bruenig> !feisty | Infinity__
[03:48] <ubotu> Infinity__: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:48] <catalyst_media> I use mware for linux so my  usb mouse is working but I don't think thats an option for you
[03:48] <curbspaget> hello
[03:48] <Sakabatou> !update
[03:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:48] <catalyst_media> instabin where do you get what
[03:48] <Infinity__> ty
[03:49] <slicslak> i need to test an email account.  could someone, anyone, everyone, email<EMAIL_ADDRESS> thanks!
[03:49] <catalyst_media> the beta?
[03:49] <bitmess> bruenig, I'm having issues playing DVDs
[03:49] <bruenig> !dvd | bitmess
[03:49] <ubotu> bitmess: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:49] <kneeki|afk> Hey all =)
[03:49] <instabin> catalyst_media I just upgraded 6.10 to 7.04 and when i try to run the restricted drivers manager it tells me to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-14-generic but i can not find that package any where in synaptic
[03:49] <catalyst_media> If you mean the beta I just google ubuntu feisty fawn beta download
[03:49] <dimas__> i had a "genius webcam" intalled on my PC but i did buy another one "creative live vista"...i had try to install the drivers spca5xx, vo51X, gspca, and still recognize the genious cam but not the creative...keep saying "could not connect to the video device" what should i do?
[03:49] <curbspaget> I have a quick question
[03:49] <catalyst_media> oh I see
[03:49] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, as much as I think some people's system breaking is funny too, generally it isn't not too funny especially when they don't know the risk
[03:49] <server_>  use the sudo command but when i go to drag and drop my index.htm file into my /var/www folder it says i have no permissions
[03:49] <bruenig> s/not//
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, the thing is, i don't think it happens.
[03:50] <curbspaget> how does one know what distribution to download?
[03:50] <ubuntu_user07> can i open another terminal to install gcc since i want to do c++ schoolwork at home
[03:50] <freeza> if you want w32codecs and libdvdcss2 you can always download automatix2, it also has the msttcorefonts
[03:50] <instabin> catalyst_media thought you where awnsering me when you said about synaptic
[03:50] <bruenig> server_, drag and drop?
[03:50] <hendrixski> bruenig: Ubotu suggests we use illegal software?? isn't libdvdcss illegal?
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> i think people that "break" their systems, are probably idiots, and its just easy to blame automati
[03:50] <bruenig> !automatix | freeza
[03:50] <ubotu> freeza: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:50] <catalyst_media> instabin I did not use synaptic at all on mine my vmware just worked but i have VMware workstation 6. It's in beta so maybe the vmware tools in workstation 6 make it work?
[03:50] <bruenig> hendrixski, it is illegal in certain areas
[03:50] <kneeki|afk> Can anyone point me to a tutorial showing me how to enable Direct Rendering on my ATI 1600 hard? This is driving me nuts =(
[03:50] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder says i have no permissions
[03:50] <Hirvinen> foug: How did you install Opera and what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there a program/script that will fix audiofiles with the wrong length in them?  e.g. a 5min ogg file coming up as 50 seconds.
[03:50] <foug> Hirvinen: the latest, and i instaled it from their site
[03:50] <foug> Hirvinen: i think i just installed motif
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, the legality of libdvdcss depends on where you live :-)
[03:50] <instabin> duno maybe its a messy upgrade
[03:50] <server_> and i used the sudo commands
[03:50] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, it happens, have you ever used aptitude or apt-get and had a situation where 3-4 options are given to you because of conflicts?
[03:50] <hendrixski> bruenig: which areas is it legal in?
[03:51] <instabin> think im going to format
[03:51] <bruenig> hendrixski, I don't know them all
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, actually, no
[03:51] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, ok well find a package that conflicts with another and then try to install it
[03:51] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: do you know where it's legal?
[03:51] <catalyst_media> instabin try getting the vmware 6 beta! it's free download right now!
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> now why would i do that intentionally?
[03:51] <curbspaget> How do you know which disto to download?
[03:51] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, not really, no.  I use it in the UK, but am unsure if it's technically legal or not.
[03:52] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder it says i have nbo permissions after using the sudo command
[03:52] <Asplode> I like to interpret the law to allow the most liberty for citizens.  The Sony v Betamax case set a precedent for fair use and backup.  The Digital Millenium Copyright Act makes it a no-no to circumvent encryption, but you have to circument encryption to make a backup...
[03:52] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski,  I know it's illegal in the USA, but legal in other european countries.
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, i hardly use automatix anymore, probably won't install it with Feisty, but i think the whole "breaking systems" thing is blown WAY out of proportion
[03:52] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, it will give you 3-4 options on how to go, either not installing anything, or installing somethings and not others, they can go on for a long time, Automatix without telling you forces the first option which is not always what you want and since it suppresses everything, good luck trying to find out what happened
[03:52] <regress> is ctrl+z the correct way to exit man?
[03:52] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, it fundamentally is flawed, the design alone opens it up for that
[03:52] <dimas__> where the guy with the long hair went?
[03:53] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder it says i have nbo permissions after using the sudo command
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i guss my experience of 5 different installs, all with automatix, and not a single problem, is in the minority
[03:53] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: bruenig: does its questionable legality come from patent infringement or from laws like DMCA in the US of DADVSI in France?
[03:53] <bruenig> hendrixski, probably patent
[03:53] <server_> when i copy my index.htm file into the /var/www folder it says i have nbo permissions after using the sudo command
[03:53] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, dmca laws that make it illegal to circumvent copyright protection things :-)
[03:54] <dimas__> bruenig
[03:54] <dimas__> i need some help please
[03:54] <hendrixski> I guess I'll read up about which one it is....
[03:54] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, technically, libdvdcss is circumventing copyright measures as the dvd is encrypted and you have to decrypt to play it (on any device)
[03:54] <wastrel> regress:  q should work
[03:54] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, that is no different than me going, I installed windows on 5 different computers and turned off the firewall and didn't install anti-virus and none of them got infected, ergo windows has no virus problem
[03:54] <regress> ah, that's easier
[03:54] <wastrel> regress:  ctrl-z doesn't exit it, it backgrounds the process
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, you're making a completely unrealistic comparison and you know it.
[03:55] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, I'm unaware of any patent infringement problems.
[03:55] <regress> haha, I thought it was strange
[03:55] <ubuntu_user07> how can i change the way java displays if i launch an applet. a site i like has a problem of a large grey bar saying java applet on top of the window and text i type is large compared to the actual chat box
[03:55] <regress> q work well, tahnks
[03:55] <wastrel> regress:  (meaning the man page is still open, just suspended and you have your terminal back)
[03:55] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: ah.  I guess there are fewer countries where breaking copryight protestcion is illegal than countries where it's illegal to break patents
[03:56] <qebab> I'll try my luck again: Does anyone know how to get rid of the HTTP Cache Cleaner that constantly pops up on my taskbar?
[03:56] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, your logic is flawed. I can show windows and automatix to be fundamentally flawed such that it opens it up for failure. You can say in your experience it didn't happen, but that doesn't address the theoretical issues. Either address the theoretical issues or you really aren't doing anything more than my windows analogy.
[03:56] <regress> that's cool, how can you get it to come back up once it's sent to the background
[03:56] <wastrel> regress:  ctrl-z is, however my preferred method of quitting emacs (whenever i'm bored/dumb enough to open it :)
[03:56] <ceeg> what do I do if sudo broke over SSH?
[03:56] <deCon> anyone know how to edit the "Places" menu?
[03:56] <bianconeri> Hello I need some help on wireless
[03:56] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: bruenig:  There area few legal DVD programs though, right?  I think Linspire comes with one.
[03:56] <wastrel> qebab:  i think that's a kde thing (?)
[03:56] <hendrixski> bianconeri: what's your current wireless situation?
[03:56] <bruenig> hendrixski, linspire pays for it I think, I know some of them have
[03:56] <alex_> what are you trying to edit
[03:56] <alex_> i mean how?
[03:57] <qebab> yeah, I searched it at ubuntuforums, and tried the method to get rid of it, which didn't work ):
[03:57] <qebab> I think it's caused by AmaroK updating my last.fm page
[03:57] <wastrel> qebab:  maybe the good folks on #kubuntu know something ?
[03:57] <Lunar_Lamp> hendrixski, last I checked ( a couple of months ago) for the end user there wasn't anything *yet* though there was a company, (fluendo?) planning on providing a paid player.
[03:57] <Derek_Russo> Hi everyone, I have kind of a strange problem.  While I'm watching movies with gxine, the movie keeps going blcak for a second and then coming back
[03:57] <qebab> I'll try that, thank you
[03:57] <alex_> system/prefrences/menues and toolbars
[03:57] <popo> hola
[03:58] <kneeki|afk> I hate Mesa SO much
[03:58] <kneeki|afk> I cannot figure out how to get Direct Rendering working =\
[03:58] <xtknight> !ask
[03:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:58] <dimas__> bruenig<<to i had install "genious webcam" but cause it wasnt working good i did change it for "creative live vista" i did install all source of drivers spca5xx, gspca, vo51x and the PC recognize the genious webcam but not the other one what sould i do? it saids "could not get connection to device"
[03:58] <xtknight> elaborate
[03:58] <hendrixski> Lunar_Lamp: Cool.  I'll look for fluendo... I'm interested to see how much media stuff can be done on linux without breaking the law
[03:58] <chocobo_> how do u execute a shell script?
[03:58] <JebJoya> hey, I'm having some issues installing my wireless card, have a Linksys card with BCM4303 802.11b chipset, running Edgy Eft, followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy to no avail (specifically <IP_ADDRESS> since I have no internet on linux but do on WinXP)
[03:58] <bruenig> dimas__, I don't know webcam
[03:58] <JebJoya> Anyone got any ideas?
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, you said it yourself...  dictionary.com   "theoretical"- 1.	of, pertaining to, or consisting in theory; not practical (distinguished from applied).
[03:59] <alex_> decon.... u get it
[03:59] <kneeki> Well, I've tried using the ATI drivers from the site, didn't work. Tried using the Ubuntu drivers, still not working
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> 2.	existing only in theory; hypothetical.
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> 3.	given to, forming, or dealing with theories; speculative.
[03:59] <bruenig> chocobo_, make sure it is executable with: chmod +x scriptname, and then run it with ./scriptname
[03:59] <kneeki> fglrxinfo has yet to change from Mesa
[03:59] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, theory is something formed outside of application, see a priori
[03:59] <hendrixski> bianconeri: you needed wireless help?
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> uh huh
[03:59] <chocobo_> bruenig: thank you very much
[03:59] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, for instance, I can look at a script that says "rm -rf /" and without ever having applied it say that it theoretically is going to cause system breakage
[04:00] <deCon> alex_, yes, but the Places one doesn't show anymore
[04:00] <kneeki> also, glxinfo | grep rendering <- always says no under Direct rendering
[04:00] <deCon> alex_, should i revert
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, i'm sure you can...
[04:00] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, now I haven't applied that script, my conclusion is outside of application
[04:00] <dimas__> is there any webcam engenier around?
[04:00] <bruenig> that is how I am using theoretically in this sense
[04:00] <Derek_Russo> Could someone help me install kopete?
[04:00] <hendrixski> kneeki: I hate that too... where it's mesa forever... try different guides, I found that different ones work for different ATI cards
[04:00] <dimas__> any webcam hacker?
[04:00] <toddobryan> I'm stuck using Outlook Web Access at work and use Evolution to access it, but I'm getting really annoyed at its bugginess.
[04:00] <toddobryan> Is there anything else out there?
[04:00] <bianconeri> I got an HP 510 laptop, and there is a known problem with these that the touchpad doesnt work out of the box. I found a guide for kernel recompiling that should get it working http://hp500.xf.cz/us/Main.html and thankfully it did. However this guide will disable wireless...But i found on the ubuntu forum a fix that says to symbolically link the old kernel to the new kernel in /lib/firmware...but I don't have the new kernel in /lib/firmware
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> well, i theoretically think people who slam something w/o trying it are full ofit.
[04:01] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, will you try my script
[04:01] <kneeki> hendrixski: I've tried about 6 different guides so far, from google, cedega, and ubuntu. Nothing has worked yet =\
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> now why would i do that?
[04:01] <hendrixski> bianconeri: ouch... that's more than a wireless problem... that's a kernel question :-(
[04:01] <kneeki> Is there a type of remote desktop assistance from ubuntu? I doubt my luck would be so great. *shrugs*
[04:02] <hendrixski> kneeki: oh... umm.. :-( don't know what to tell you.  Everyone has had a hard time with it
[04:02] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15309/ don't say this will cause problems unless you have tried it
[04:02] <SysProbe> Does Ubuntu Server has a GUI like fedora ?
[04:02] <hendrixski> kneeki: have you tried EasyUbuntu?  I'm pretty sure it has an ATI install script
[04:02] <kneeki> hendrixski: ahh - dang =(
[04:02] <bianconeri> lol ya I know, but i figured that the solution was pretty simple on ubuntu forum
[04:02] <deCon> Anyone know how to edit the Places menu? The GUI for Menu layout isn't showing "Places"?!
[04:02] <JebJoya>  hey, I'm having some issues installing my wireless card, have a Linksys card with BCM4303 802.11b chipset, running Edgy Eft, followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy to no avail (specifically <IP_ADDRESS> since I have no internet on linux but do on WinXP).  Finally, iwconfig (i think it was) said that the nickname was a BCM4301 not a 4303 - any ideas?
[04:02] <kneeki> hendrixski: EasyUbuntu?  Im not su re, it does sound familiar. Do you have a link?
[04:02] <wastrel> !easyubuntu
[04:03] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:03] <kneeki> thanks!
[04:03] <hendrixski> bianconeri: I'm sure it is... I just thought it was simple like "help me find a wireless network" kind of easy  :-( I'm still kind of a newb
[04:03] <bianconeri> hendrixski: what do you suggest? Go to the Kernel room?:)
[04:03] <kneeki> HAH!
[04:03] <SysProbe> Anyone. Does Ubuntu have a GUI like Fedora ?
[04:03] <kneeki> I love the homepage of easyunbuntu
[04:03] <kneeki> Hilarious ;)
[04:04] <catid> JebJoya: you may have to use ndiswrapper
[04:04] <hendrixski> bianconeri: I have no idea
[04:04] <bianconeri> Iv been using linux for a year and half right now...but will always be a noob :D
[04:04] <milaks> Hi. I try to compile FLTK library but I get "configure: error: Configure could not find required X11 libraries" Can someone please tell me what do I need to install?
[04:04] <bruenig> SysProbe, it has a gui yes
[04:04] <frank_b> I've just installed a new SATA hard drive and want to use it as an extension of my home folder. what should I do next? how do I format it and make just one partition to use as a home folder extension?
[04:04] <hendrixski> kneeki: I don't know if it actually works, but it gets better reviews than automatix for some reason
[04:04] <wastrel> SysProbe:  ubuntu screenshots   http://ubuntuforums.org/g/index.php?c=1
[04:04] <SysProbe> bruenig....Does webmin also work with it ?
[04:04] <wastrel> SysProbe:  those are customized systems, the standard look is different
[04:04] <wastrel> !webmin  SysProbe
[04:05] <wastrel> !webmin | SysProbe
[04:05] <ubotu> SysProbe: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:05] <hendrixski> milaks: probably the x11 librarires it asks for..... try to copy and paste it into "apt-cache search" and when you get a hit then apt-get install it
[04:05] <hendrixski> milaks: and most of those compile errors have a google page
[04:05] <SysProbe> Thanks everyone
[04:05] <deCon> HELP! ...me change my Places menu so i can point it to docs instead of Documents!!
[04:05] <SysProbe> wastrel...thanks for link
[04:05] <ubuntu_user07> what should i pick as my postfix configuration ?
[04:05] <JebJoya> catid: I've had 3 wireless issues now on 3 separate PCs, my laptop I ended up swapping the wireless card with my parents, and my girlfriend's pc is still having issues, both of which i've been trying to use ndiswrapper - pain in the proverbial :)
[04:06] <milaks> hendrixski: yes but what exactly :) there is a lot x11proto*
[04:06] <harry_> what is the keyboard shortcut to open the system monitor
[04:06] <dead1ock> no
[04:06] <xtknight> harry_, ctrl alt DEL
[04:06] <catid> JebJoya: yes.. the state of linux wireless is not that great =(
[04:06] <JebJoya> :(
[04:06] <hendrixski> milaks: how concerned are you with diskspace?  you can install them all... aptitude will sort out the dependancies for you
[04:06] <ceeg> Okay. SUDO broke. The only way to change your login as root with su - is by using the root password. To SET the root password in ubuntu, you have to use SUDO. I am using SSH so i cant boot into recovery mode. What can I do?
[04:07] <xtknight> harry_, actually you have to make it CTRL alt DEL.  there was a command to do it on the forums.  i cant remember
[04:07] <JebJoya> catid: I'm sure that this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy is what i need to follow, but it didn't work...?
[04:07] <bianconeri> so anybody??  I got an HP 510 laptop, and there is a known problem with these that the touchpad doesnt work out of the box. I found a guide for kernel recompiling that should get it working http://hp500.xf.cz/us/Main.html and thankfully it did. However this guide will disable wireless...But i found on the ubuntu forum a fix that says to symbolically link the old kernel to the new kernel in /lib/firmware...but I don't have the new kernel in /lib/firmware
[04:07] <wastrel> ceeg:  you can't fix that remotely
[04:08] <wastrel> ceeg:  what's wrong with sudo?
[04:08] <regress> ceeg...it's like some weird riddle
[04:08] <catid> JebJoya: i've ordered a wireless card this week that should use that chipset..  but have no experience with it yet
[04:08] <JebJoya> *groan*
[04:08] <kneeki> hendrixski: Hmmmmm, it seems that I have the Ubuntu ATI driver, and the ATI driver (from they're site) both installed at once. I take it that's a bad sign yes?
[04:08] <ubuntu_user07> how can i change the size of the / partition from within ubuntu?
[04:08] <kneeki> <- new to 'nix
[04:08] <milaks> I try to compile FLTK library but I get "configure: error: Configure could not find required X11 libraries" Can someone please tell me what do I need to install?
[04:09] <bianconeri> ubuntu_user07 use gparted or qtparted
[04:09] <ubuntu_user07> if i resize /home will i lose any data?
[04:09] <Harpette> milaks: is that the only error msg you get?
[04:09] <ceeg> wastrel: i typed 'sudo vigr' and all of a sudden it stopped working.
[04:10] <bianconeri> how much data is on it?
[04:10] <thesheqq> can anybody recommend the best bittorrent client that supports filter RSS
[04:10] <milaks> Harpette: during configure, yes
[04:10] <Adsum> does anyone know what *** stack smashing detected *** means?
[04:10] <Harpette> milaks: you got the fltk lib source from the project's web site, right? don't they tell you what you need to build it?
[04:11] <craigbass1976> I need a volunteer.  Someone with edgy (updated) who is willing to open up a .csv file in OOCalc and tell me what they see in a particular column.
[04:11] <wastrel> i'll do it!
[04:11] <ubuntu_user07> i can't find gparted
[04:11] <milaks> Harpette: I'm sorry but I relly don't know what *else* should I install i order to build FLTK library
[04:12] <qebab> robb@robb-laptop:/usr/share/services$ sudo echo StartupNotify=false >> http_cache_cleaner.desktop
[04:12] <qebab> bash: http_cache_cleaner.desktop: Permission denied
[04:12] <Harpette> milaks: and what is that library?
[04:12] <qebab> does anyone have a good idea what to try next?
[04:12] <deCon> Can someone please help me fix my "Places" menu...i just need to edit something easy, but its not in the GUI under system-->pref-->menu layout
[04:12] <Sashi> a question
[04:12] <craigbass1976> wastrel, I'm trying to send it.  Is it coming?
[04:12] <kneeki> It seems that I have the Ubuntu ATI driver, and the ATI driver (from they're site) both installed at once. I take it that's a bad sign yes?
[04:12] <milaks> Harpette: fltk 2
[04:12] <Absum> stack smashing when trying to run conky! anyone?
[04:12] <Sashi> how can i make it so that sudo requires a pw?
[04:12] <zoohouse> I having problems accessing a webserver running on my box. I can access the page within the network (<IP_ADDRESS>) but when I try my external IP it doesn't work (Timeout on server). I have IP Passthrough on my DSL router, my broadband/wireless router is sending port 443 to the server, and the firewall it turned off with FireStarter. What else can be blocking my connection. I don't think that it is my ISP... Am I over looking something? I
[04:12] <zoohouse> am using SSL-Explorer
[04:12] <wastrel> craigbass1976:  it's stalled, are you identified w/ nickserv?
[04:12] <fiery_cleric> hello ... anyone here use youtube under ubuntu? ... i want to try to use some user agent magic to transfer the flash plugin present on youtube pages to the mplug mplayer plugin .... is this possible? (greasemonkey?)
[04:12] <ceeg> wastrel: is there a way to open a new terminal in ssh? is there any way i can get another instance of sudo or something?
[04:12] <qebab> I'm trying to make the HTTP Cache Cleaner stop littering my taskbar every hour
[04:12] <wastrel> ceeg:  try screen
[04:13] <craigbass1976> wastrel, brb
[04:13] <ceeg> wastrel: not installed on ubuntu-server. gotta sudo to install it :(
[04:13] <Harpette> Sashi: sudo does require a password
[04:13] <Sashi> no it doesnt
[04:13] <wastrel> ceeg:  what's sudo doing ?
[04:13] <LM1> I am so sad!  Please anyone.... I really wanna run feisty on my new dualcore.... but it locks up when booting from the livecd
[04:13] <eXcAliBuR> ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> username = root passowrd = bitch .... and fix muh email please :)
[04:13] <qebab> no one knows how to write to /usr/share/http_cache_cleaner.desktop?
[04:13] <LM1> :C
[04:13] <craigbass1976> wastrel, how about now?
[04:13] <chocobo_> What is a good compiler for compiling C++ on linux?
[04:13] <wastrel> craigbass1976:  stalled
[04:13] <ceeg> wastrel: absolutely nothing. ceeg@berith$: sudo apt-get install screen; ceeg@berith$:
[04:14] <Aemo> anyone good with GRUB?
[04:14] <Harpette> LM1: what about Edgy Eft?
[04:14] <zoohouse> chocobo_: gcc
[04:14] <chocobo_> zoohouse: is it command line?
[04:14] <Harpette> Aemo: shoot
[04:14] <fiery_cleric> cool if anyone is interested, http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2006/11/24/playing-youtube-videos-without-flash/ , finally i can stop using that evil closed source plugin :)
[04:14] <LM1> I've tried edgy and the latest knoppix
[04:14] <LM1> they all lock up :C
[04:14] <zoohouse> chocobo_: yup
[04:14] <qebab> no one?
[04:14] <chocobo_> zoohouse: easy to learn?
[04:14] <zoohouse> chocobo_: yup
[04:15] <deCon> please, someone....
[04:15] <deCon> menu help
[04:15] <Harpette> qebab: do a Google search for your file
[04:15] <zoohouse> chocobo_: if you want a IDE try Kdevelop
[04:15] <LM1> I was so excited about building this dual core... but now that I have to run xp it seems... crappy
[04:15] <cpare> good evening from Orlando, FL
[04:15] <chocobo_> zoohouse: can it compile java and python?
[04:15] <corden> And by the way, I successfully connect to the internet using my mobile phone without username and password just the dial-up # :)
[04:15] <deCon> lk1, i have my dual core and it rocks...whats wrong with yours
[04:15] <zoohouse> chocobo_: you mean Kdevelop?
[04:15] <chocobo_> zoohouse: no GCC?
[04:16] <zoohouse> chocobo_: no
[04:16] <LM1> the amd 690 chipset doesn't like the linux kernel
[04:16] <Aemo> harpette: i installed in this order, 1. 2003, 2:vista, 3. feisty beta. is it possible to have Vista and 2003 to show up in GRUB?
[04:16] <LM1> or something like that
[04:16] <qebab> Harpette: What I'm trying to do is something someone using ubuntuforums apparently made work
[04:16] <chocobo_> zoohouse: java?
[04:16] <zoohouse> chocobo_: you will need a a Java compiller
[04:16] <chocobo_> zoohouse: ooooo k well thank you
[04:16] <Harpette> Aemo: GRUB should've detected your other OSes
[04:16] <zoohouse> chocobo_: np
[04:17] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> OPERA is a much superior browser than Firefox, since Ubuntu is including closed-source into the distro, what the heck, why not include OPERA?
[04:17] <Harpette> Aemo: insrall grub-doc pkg and type "info grub". If you don't know how to use info first do a "info info". As always, "q" to exit.
[04:17] <xtknight> LM1, AMD is one of the best linux supporters
[04:17] <xtknight> LM1, give them some time.
[04:17] <DjViper> opera isnt free
[04:17] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation
[04:18] <Aemo> Harpette: in fact it did, but it goes to the vista chainloader(?) and then asks me to choose vista or 2003
[04:18] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> DjViper: free as in what...
[04:18] <cpare> I just got a news machine at work that has 4gb
[04:18] <xtknight> opera is $0, but not open source
[04:18] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> i know
[04:18] <cpare> and my peers are telling me workstation is only reading 3gb
[04:18] <Aemo> harpette: id rather have 2003, vista, ubuntu under one menu, grub
[04:18] <xtknight> why is opera much superior to firefox?
[04:18] <deCon> I need to command line or text edit my menu to  fix "Documents" to "docs", could someone please quickly help me
[04:18] <xtknight> i've tried it.  i liked it for a while but went back honestly i missed my adblock
[04:18] <Harpette> Aemo: that sounds completely normal to me, because both are installed in the same boot sector of the same partition.
[04:18] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> i am trying for a few days opera, and it's really faster and superior, now it's got a new feature, speed dial it's so cool
[04:18] <Harpette> Aemo: no can do
[04:19] <wastrel> ceeg:  tried connecting again via a diff ssh session?  tried /usr/bin/sudo   ?   i dunno out of ideas
[04:19] <Aemo> impossible?
[04:19] <Harpette> Aemo: let me rephrase that: not that i know of
[04:19] <xtknight> Cara_WCAM_MSN, unfortunately, i don't believe that they will ever make opera the default because: a) it is not open source, b) many people like firefoxs
[04:19] <Cara_WCAM_MSN> Opera speed dial is like a page that displays mini-pages, mostly frequented, you can add then, and they appear as thumbnail, so you just select them and go
[04:19] <Harpette> Aemo: once again, "info grub" has it all
[04:19] <xtknight> they have put opera in the commercial repository (Canonical).  so they are aware of it and everything
[04:20] <Ltar> is there a calculator panel app, similar to "dictionary lookup"? I want to have a field in my launch panel to enter math problems- there's far too much interface to "calculator" for it to be worth my while- why have buttons on my keyboard AND my monitor?
[04:20] <xtknight> gcalctool?  i have no idea what it is
[04:20] <frank_b> what's the best type of disklabel to use in a hard drive to use in ubuntu?
[04:20] <Harpette> LM1: perhaps you need to pass special kernel parameters for your HW. Search Google
[04:21] <server_> i still can't get root acess to be able to copy files into my filesystem
[04:21] <Aemo> im happy that ubuntu had my wifi card good to go "out of the box"
[04:21] <ceeg> wastrel: tried both. doesnt work. the program 'vigr' is the last program that worked.
[04:21] <Harpette> frank_b: DOS, like most everyone on a PC?
[04:21] <ceeg> wastrel: or the first program that made it stop working. its possible i may have corrupted /etc/group ?
[04:21] <frank_b> Harpette, ok, thanks
[04:22] <frank_b> Harpette, yes, I have an i386 machine
[04:22] <Aemo> harpette: another thing, you know how i can get my max resolution?  1920x1200
[04:22] <Harpette> frank_b: actually, i don't suppose Ubuntu is gonna care at all; but parted might, so you could look into what kind of disklabel parted "prefers"
[04:22] <xtknight> Aemo, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:22] <xtknight> Aemo, "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:22] <Harpette> Aemo: yep
[04:23] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation
[04:23] <wastrel> ceeg:  possible yes, which is needed for your sudo
[04:23] <frank_b> Harpette, ok, thanks
[04:23] <server_> can someone tell me how to get permissions to be able to copy files into my filesystem sudo doesnt seem to work
[04:23] <xtknight> server_, the /var/www question?
[04:23] <server_> yes
[04:23] <xtknight> server_, sudo chmod a+w /var/www
[04:23] <xtknight> server_, then copy from a user
[04:24] <server_> tyty
[04:24] <wastrel> ceeg:  groups  cmd must show you in admin in order for sudo to work for you (defaut ubuntu config)
[04:24] <flake> opengl logs me off of KDE/GDM
[04:24] <flake> how can i fix it
[04:24] <xtknight> flake, nvidia kernel problem
[04:24] <server_> OMG it worked
[04:24] <server_> thanks so much
[04:24] <xtknight> server_, to give user permanent ownership there, "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www"
[04:24] <_goofy_> how do i keep a program from starting at login
[04:24] <kneeki> flake: i'm having trouble getting Direct Rendering to work also =(
[04:25] <xtknight> flake, nvidia Xorg and kernel driver conflict, i believe.  what kernel are you running?
[04:25] <server_> THANKS SO MUCH
[04:25] <flake> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[04:25] <erpo> I need a receiver that works with gpsd. It should be cheap and it should connect via USB. Can anyone point me to a specific product that will definitely work perfectly?
[04:25] <Aemo> @xtknight, so i got that far, which do i edit?
[04:26] <xtknight> Aemo, 24-bit display right?  search for subsection display and Depth 24.  add a resolution there.
[04:26] <xtknight> Aemo, or under every Color Depth if you wish
[04:26] <xtknight> flake, reinstall the latest nvidia drivers or use restricted drivers
[04:26] <esac> running feisty on laptop with touchpad. if i click on a button sometimes that click will not 'register' until after i've moved my mouse. any ideas ?
[04:26] <flake> what was that easy script that can be ran?  I have it on my system, forgot the name
[04:27] <flake> but it auto-installs the nvidia driver
[04:27] <xtknight> !envy
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <kneeki> Is there a safe way to uninstall my ATI display drivers w/o killing my system (preferablly using the default after install drivers)
[04:27] <flake> right, thanks
[04:27] <esac> why is it that in xchat if i click on a link it does nothing, but if i right click on it and select 'open in browser' it works ?
[04:27] <xtknight> kneeki, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <xtknight> kneeki, replace driver fglrx with ati
[04:28] <wastrel> kneeki:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <wastrel> or that
[04:28] <kneeki> Well
[04:28] <ksnipa> Hey when  I try to upgrade to 7.04, using Update Manager I get the 404 error on the backports , anyone else getting this?
[04:28] <kneeki> here's what I did (I messed up bad I think)
[04:28] <kneeki> I installed ATI drivers from ATI website
[04:28] <wastrel> ksnipa:  i don't imagine backports exists yet because it's new
[04:28] <kneeki> then since direct rendering wasent working, i did a few tutorials
[04:29] <Madpilot> esac, that's one of xchat's quirks/known bugs. I've never found an explanation.
[04:29] <kneeki> as such, I did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just a few minutes ago
[04:29] <kneeki> Does that mean I'm no longer using my ATI drivers?
[04:29] <wastrel> !backports  | ksnipa
[04:29] <ubotu> ksnipa: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[04:29] <xtknight> kneeki, press ctrl alt backspace (force quit X) to restart X
[04:30] <wastrel> kneeki:  if you chose something other than fglrx, then yes.  but you need to re-start X for that change to take effect.
[04:30] <xtknight> then you will be on 'ati' not 'fglrx'
[04:30] <kneeki> Hmm, ok
[04:30] <kneeki> But, I did choose fglrx, should I do the command again?
[04:30] <_goofy_> how do i keep a program from starting at login
[04:30] <kneeki> and choose ATI instead of fglrx?
[04:31] <cpare> kneeki - you doing geryl?
[04:31] <cpare> beryl?
[04:31] <cpare> sorry
[04:31] <kneeki> cpare: No idea what that is =(
[04:31] <kneeki> I'm new to linux
[04:31] <kneeki> Running Ubuntu atm
[04:31] <kneeki> if that matters
[04:31] <cpare> beryl is a graphical add-on to gnome
[04:32] <kneeki> Oh
[04:32] <Talaman72> linux rocks
[04:32] <kneeki> No idea then. How do I check?
[04:32] <Talaman72> and my xchat kicks butt too
[04:32] <cpare> if you dont know what it is, your not
[04:32] <kneeki> lol, fair enough =
[04:32] <kneeki> =)
[04:32] <cpare> most go after it
[04:32] <kneeki> Oh, wow. I just googled it
[04:32] <kneeki> That's PURDY!
[04:32] <cpare> as it adds a lot of bling to your desktop
[04:33] <kneeki> If only my OpenGL was working =P
[04:33] <stone-unix> warning : 4-13update crashed my 2.6.20-14-generic bootup
[04:33] <cpare> thats why I thought you were after the openGL
[04:33] <qfour20> iwconfig tells me that my wireless nic is using 11Mb rate, how do I set that to 54?
[04:33] <stone-unix> have to switch to 2.6.20-13 to boot
[04:33] <fiery_cleric> onething that really annoys me.... how do i search for a '-' sign in man pages under ubuntu ... ie i want to search for an argument like -l or -vc etc.... ?
[04:33] <Alonea> anyone know why I can't access my audio tab on winecfg? it locks up.
[04:33] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:   /-<enter>
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: doesnt work
[04:34] <kneeki> cpare: Oh, nah. I'm trying to get my 'nix install to run games on Cedega. I would love to use Beryl eventually, but after I get games going first.
[04:34] <wastrel> firephoto:  then n
[04:34] <stone-unix>  warning : 4-13update crashed my 2.6.20-14-generic bootup , have to switch to 2.6.20-13 to boot
[04:34] <Aemo> @xtknight, alright should it look like this?
[04:34] <Aemo>     SubSection     "Display"
[04:34] <Aemo>         Depth       24
[04:34] <Aemo>         Modes      "1920x1200" "1280x720" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:34] <kneeki> I'm trying to make a switch from windows to another OS, because I am very unsatasfied with Vista =\
[04:34] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  it should... if it doesn't try  /\-
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: i tried that to the escaping of it doesnt work
[04:34] <fiery_cleric> it works under other distros
[04:34] <xtknight> Aemo, yes
[04:35] <kneeki> However, I have Cedega working fine - but all my games run like ass because I have no direct rendering atm
[04:35] <qfour20> kneeki: congratulations
[04:35] <cpare> kneeki - gotcha
[04:35] <stone-unix> kneeki: congrats, you get to the right place
[04:35] <xtknight> Aemo, save and reboot X
[04:35] <kneeki> lol, thanks guys
[04:35] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  it works for me in edgy...
[04:35] <xtknight> lol wow
[04:35] <xtknight> kneeki, what did you do?
[04:35] <xtknight> ;P
[04:35] <xtknight> cure cancer?
[04:35] <frank_b> is there still a limit for primary partitions in modern hard drives?
[04:35] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  are you using a weird character set or LANG ?
[04:35] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: ah ok i am on dapper
[04:35] <Aemo> alright, so logging out doesnt cut it right?
[04:35] <xtknight> Aemo, yeah thatll do it
[04:35] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: i think just C
[04:35] <kneeki> lol
[04:35] <Frogzoo> anyone else notice on edgy openoffice spreadsheet won't open anymore?
[04:36] <cpare> frank_b - I dont think so - I just setup my new machine today with a 250gb partition
[04:36] <kneeki> xtknight: nothing, I just am forced to use Vista at work (for tech support reasons) and after using it, it drives me nuts
[04:36] <cpare> on an LVM
[04:36] <wastrel> Frogzoo:  works for me i just did it
[04:36] <w3ccv> WIFI-Relay Question:  The /etc/wifi-relay.conf file contains the [SSID]  for each 'network'. Is there a way to have a [UserGeneratedNickname]  for a section with the ssid specified in that section. I've run into a couple networks that use the same *dumb* name of "wireless" and I need to keep them straight.
[04:36] <frank_b> cpare, ok, thanks
[04:36] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  ah!
[04:36] <cpare> np
[04:36] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  change your default pager to less instead of more
[04:37] <kneeki> Atm, I'm u sing that EasyUbuntu to download a bunch of things. It unfortunatly has my checkbox for Install ATI drivers... greyed out, because I have some installed already =\
[04:37] <Aemo> xtknight: oh because i just did that, and then when i goto system>preferences>Screen Resolution and nothing new showed up
[04:37] <xtknight> Aemo, need to logout
[04:37] <kneeki> So, once this is done downloading, I can try to uninstall the downloaded drivers
[04:37] <Frogzoo> frank_b: max 4, usually use 3 & create as many logical as you like
[04:37] <wastrel> fiery_cleric:  sudo update-alternatives --config pager
[04:37] <phrizek> I just got new external hard drive. What is the best way to format the drive (its for linux use only)?
[04:37] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: ok ill give it a go ....
[04:38] <Aemo> ill try again
[04:38] <frank_b> Frogzoo, still on modern hard drives?
[04:38] <wastrel> yes
[04:38] <Rio79> when you use the command chmod, is there a way for its child directories to inherit the same permissions?  (i just configured the samba server but i cant write to it from a windows pc)
[04:38] <xtknight> Rio79, -R for recursive
[04:39] <wastrel> Rio79:  be careful with that.  lots of blown up systems due to chmod -R  :]
[04:39] <Rio79> wastrel> blown up systems?
[04:40] <cpare> anyone able to help with a Kernel question?
[04:40] <Rio79> wastrel> how do you mean
[04:40] <Rio79> xtknight> thanks, btw!
[04:40] <xtknight> !anyone | cpare
[04:40] <ubotu> cpare: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:40] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation
[04:40] <wastrel> Rio79:  people have been known to accidentally chmod their whole filesystem, which breaks permissions all over the place :]
[04:40] <cpare> L)
[04:40] <_goofy_> where are the startup scripts held......or are thay all over the place
[04:40] <cpare> :)
[04:41] <phrizek> Is anyone here familiar with formatting external drives correctly?
[04:41] <Infinity__> can someone tell me how I can get these little widget things for my ubuntu? http://www.ubuntux.org/latest-ubuntu?size=_original
[04:41] <Rio79> wastrel> ohh strange... good to know..
[04:41] <esac> running feisty on laptop with touchpad. if i click on a button sometimes that click will not 'register' until after i've moved my mouse. any ideas ?
[04:42] <kneeki> Hmm, how can I go about seeing the restricted repository?
[04:42] <xtknight> !universe
[04:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:42] <kneeki> I uncommented those lines from the .list file, is that all I have to do?
[04:42] <xtknight> Infinity__, gdesklets
[04:42] <xtknight> kneeki, sudo apt-get update
[04:42] <Rio79> xtknight, wastrel> "-R" only effects the child directories, right? it doesnt go up through the parent directories?
[04:42] <JebJoya> can i use ndiswrapper on an exe file?  also, how can i get ndiswrapper with an internet connection on WinXP but none on ubuntu?
[04:43] <dthacker> apt-get says that amavisd-new is not available but refers to another package, how can I find out what that package is?
[04:43] <kneeki> xtknight: thanks =)
[04:43] <Infinity__> xtknight: You in here too. :D Thanks
[04:43] <wastrel> Rio79:  only child yes
[04:43] <phrizek> kneeki: go to System> Administration > Software sources and check the box for restricted
[04:43] <Rio79> wastrel> cool thanks mang!
[04:43] <xtknight> Rio79, no it does not traverse the parents.  only the hcildren
[04:43] <xtknight> children*
[04:43] <Harpette> phrizek: what pbm have you encountered formatting your external HDD?
[04:43] <macd> !info htop
[04:43] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB
[04:43] <Rio79> xtknight> thanks, du
[04:44] <phrizek> Harpette: the only problems i've encountered are permission errors, where I have to be root to do anything
[04:44] <Aemo> @xtknight, didnt work after i logged out, but restart did it
[04:44] <kneeki> phrizek: oh nice, thanks!
[04:44] <dthacker> !info amavisd-new
[04:44] <ubotu> amavisd-new: Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content filters. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 568 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[04:45] <Harpette> phrizek: that would be the way the drive is mounted. Readm man fstab and man mount
[04:45] <xtknight> Aemo, oh hmm
[04:45] <kd7wpc> join #cwirc
[04:45] <JebJoya>  can i use ndiswrapper on an exe file?  also, how can i get ndiswrapper with an internet connection on WinXP but none on ubuntu?
[04:45] <xtknight> Aemo, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   would have done it, probably
[04:45] <xtknight> !wireless
[04:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:46] <phrizek> Harpette: all right, ill check that out
[04:46] <corden> guys what games are the best in ubuntu?
[04:46] <xtknight> Infinity__, another package of your interest may be gnome-art.  if you're trying to replicate someone else's desktop
[04:46] <xtknight> !info gnome-art | Infinity__
[04:46] <ubotu> infinity__: gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[04:46] <xtknight> corden, wolfenstein Enemy territory is probably the most popular.  i loved it
[04:46] <Alonea> anyone at all know why I can't get to my audio tab on winecfg?
[04:47] <ttrsh> hi, i need to modify my LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variable, but i need this change to affect every user.. how would i do this?
[04:47] <xtknight> Alonea, freezes a bit?  it froze on mine but it worked eventually
[04:47] <Harpette> phrizek: are you comfortable using the "man" command?
[04:47] <xtknight> ttrsh, why out of curiosity?
[04:47] <WNxCryptic> hello Everyone.
[04:47] <ttrsh> because of some application, it complains about lib not being found
[04:47] <xtknight> ttrsh,  just add it to "/etc/ld.so.conf" and run "sudo ldconfig" instead.  one time thing.
[04:47] <ttrsh> i know my problem is solved this way
[04:47] <ttrsh> ohhhhhhhhhh
[04:47] <ttrsh> thanks [04:47] <phrizek> Harpette: no :p
[04:48] <Alonea> xtknight: its completely frozen. Tried waiting 5 minutes or more with no luck
[04:48] <corden> xtknight it is free and included in repos?
[04:48] <WNxCryptic> Anyone particularly gifted in identifying problems with "make" and wireless drivers?
[04:48] <Harpette> phrizek: space bar to scroll forward, "b" to scroll back, "q" to quit
[04:49] <ttrsh> wow xtknight, you seriously saved my life ;)
[04:49] <Aemo> @xtknight, would you know about GRUB?
[04:49] <phrizek> Harpette: is there no way to have it work with the correct permissions when it automatically mounts?
[04:49] <xtknight> Aemo, yeah
[04:49] <xtknight> ttrsh, lol yeah ?
[04:49] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: well what do u know setting , LC_ALL=c man works ... thanks...
[04:49] <Harpette> phrizek: "/<your search string here>" (w/out the <> of course), "n" for next occurrence of search string
[04:49] <dthacker> ok, I've uncommented the universe lines in /etc/apt/sources-list, but apt still reports no package?
[04:49] <xtknight> corden, no
[04:49] <xtknight> corden, free yes not open source
[04:49] <xtknight> corden, actually it is oepn source, GPL.  my bad
[04:49] <runtime> is /usr/include like a "default" include directory?
[04:50] <Harpette> phrizek: yes, you need to edit /etc/fstab. man fstab
[04:50] <xtknight> id software releaesd Wolf ET source under GPL didnt they?
[04:50] <runtime> yes
[04:50] <xtknight> or not
[04:50] <xtknight> runtime, yeah it's the include of all includes
[04:50] <phrizek> Harpette: okay, i think I can do that
[04:50] <cpare> Question - Is there a Kernel difference between Server and Workstation - I have a machine with 4gb RAM and need a kernel that will identify all 4gb
[04:50] <corden> oic tnx for the info xtk
[04:50] <wastrel> dthacker:  sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <xtknight> corden, GPL but not in repos.  it's too big :P
[04:50] <Harpette> phrizek: assuming you have an entry for it in fstab. otherwise if you type the mount cmd yourself at the cmd line, then man mount
[04:50] <Aemo> xtknight: so right now, GRUB is the first boot loader, but the only os it seees is the VISTA chainloader, is it possible to skip the windows chainloader and be able to boot into vista and win2003 directly from grub?
[04:51] <runtime> "In early 2004 the source code for the game logic (not the game engine) was released to the benefit of its modding community. The game uses a modifed RTCW engine, the latter itself being a modified Quake III engine (which is open-source since 2006)."
[04:51] <WNxCryptic> Can someone whisper me regarding some driver issues I'm having?
[04:51] <xtknight> elaboate..
[04:51] <xtknight> elaborate *
[04:51] <phrizek> Harpette: I was hoping an external drive would be plug and play
[04:52] <FMJaguar> i'm using ubuntu to troubleshoot a system with a failing hard drive, but the ubuntu loader disc keeps giving me /hda I/O errors, is there a boot flag i can type in the disc menu to disable hard drive autodetection
[04:52] <WNxCryptic> lol xt
[04:52] <xtknight> Aemo, no it is not
[04:52] <Harpette> phrizek: in Linux nothing is plug and play. you have to fight
[04:52] <dthacker> wastrel: tnx
[04:52] <xtknight> Aemo, grub can't mount ntfs
[04:52] <xtknight> tons of pnp in linux
[04:52] <dager> Harpette: many people would beg to differ :D
[04:52] <xtknight> more than windows i'd say
[04:53] <WNxCryptic> @xt: Averatec laptop, 7.04 ubuntu; LAN is completely unrecognized and (to my knowlege) a driver doesn't exist for it, so I'm trying to install a driver for the wireless card.
[04:53] <phrizek> Harpette: ubuntu has surprisingly shattered that concept for me :)
[04:53] <peepsalot_> anyone here that has upgraded to fiesty?  do you know the part where it asks about "md" ?
[04:53] <xtknight> all the drivers are all there ;)
[04:53] <xtknight> !feisty | peepsalot_
[04:53] <ubotu> peepsalot_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:53] <Harpette> dager: cool, please feel free to help out
[04:53] <cpare> Ubuntu is far better than the other options out there
[04:53] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, 'completely' unrecognized?  does it detect it over the PCI bus?
[04:53] <cpare> I was running FC1, 2, 3, 4 they all sucked
[04:53] <WNxCryptic> Not to my knowlege XT, but this is my first time back to Linux in a while.
[04:54] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, pastebin "sudo lspci -vv"
[04:54] <xtknight> !pastebin
[04:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:54] <WNxCryptic> The "Device Manager" for it comes up with a TON of stuff unrecognized...its hard to even sift through what is on the list.
[04:54] <xtknight> oh youre not on it now huh?
[04:54] <WNxCryptic> (no internet access on it)
[04:54] <cpare> as I had to compile my Wireless drivers each time the kernel got updated
[04:54] <xtknight> yeah coulda been a secondary lan
[04:54] <xtknight> hmm
[04:54] <tehkain> Man a ton of kernel issues have just popped up on the feisty forums
[04:54] <WNxCryptic> The only way I could get on is if I had a LAN card.
[04:54] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, well boot a livecd no the laptop
[04:54] <xtknight> on*
[04:54] <xtknight> tehkain, probably mostly user error ;)
[04:54] <mister_roboto> cpare: did you ever try opensuse? it's a pretty nice distro if you like rpm-based. one of the few that had working suspend/hibernate out of the box for my laptop
[04:55] <WNxCryptic> Any particular one? I've used 6.06, 6.04, 6.10 and now, 7.04.
[04:55] <Rio79> damn
[04:55] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, i would use 7.04
[04:55] <WNxCryptic> 7.04 at least gives me a "wireless device" (in the top-right), but when I connect to it, after 40 seconds it goes back to "No network connection"
[04:55] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, oh well that's good.  it loaded a driver.  you just need to learn how to use the wireless
[04:55] <xtknight> access point, essid, etc
[04:55] <Shoeb> Ok, crazy problem. I'm trying to install Ubuntu server, with RAID on a Asus P5W64 WS which has two gigabit ethernet interfaces. First, it either gives us problems booting up or is very slow in booting up when I start the PC. Second, once it goes in.. it sometimes detects network or sometimes doesn't. And if it does, when we go to the next screen where it's supposed to detect HDD (or RAID),...
[04:55] <Shoeb> ...it just shows us a blank blue screen .
[04:55] <Rio79> i cant seem to write to a ubuntu harddrive that is share through samba from windows.  does it matter what type of harddrive it is? (ext3 versus fat32)
[04:55] <WNxCryptic> So? There's problems with the roaming enabled thing?
[04:56] <Aemo> @xtknight, does lilo mount ntfs?
[04:56] <cpare> mister_roboto - I recently tried the Novell Open Enterprise Server for a project at work and it worked well, however the Novell Linux Desktop is still ucky
[04:56] <cpare> mister-roboto - I also played with SES9 and SES10
[04:56] <Rio79> system > administration > shared folders ... then the folder is not set to read only
[04:56] <cpare> but not the one your talking about
[04:57] <cpare> I may give it a try
[04:57] <wastrel> my upgrades always bork Pelo
[04:57] <xtknight> Aemo, no
[04:57] <xtknight> Aemo, lilo can barely mount ext2 haha ;P
[04:57] <cpare> but UBUNTU "Just works" for me :)
[04:57] <wastrel> that's why i have /home on a separate partition
[04:57] <cpare> so I am not going anywhere anytime soon
[04:57] <WNxCryptic> xt: thanks for all the help thus far, I've gotten into the network settings and disabled "Roaming mode"
[04:57] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, ok dont give up.  it's probably something silly like being unassociated with an acces point.  verdict is, your driver has been loaded
[04:57] <dk_ii> !pine
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <mister_roboto> cpare: yes, i ended up settling on kubuntu (i prefer kde) because i like debian based. however, the power saving stuff never did work right on the laptop, which is annoying in a minor way
[04:58] <Pelo> wastrel,  so do i but this time the upgrade wouldnt, read it and it borked my partition table so I had to do some copying and moving to restore it
[04:58] <WNxCryptic> @xt: Ok...this network is Open..but there isn't an option in "Password type" for "Open" (only WEP hexadec or WEP Ascii)
[04:58] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, hmm?
[04:58] <wastrel> yikes
[04:58] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, oh
[04:58] <xtknight> weird
[04:58] <bokey> dk_ii, pine is a simple terminal based mail client
[04:58] <xtknight> network manager is all buggy anyway, use ifconfig
[04:58] <WNxCryptic> lol...all the Comp Sci professors at my uni use Pine
[04:58] <WNxCryptic> lol
[04:59] <wastrel> eew who's using pine?  use mutt <3
[04:59] <dk_ii> thanks bokey
[04:59] <xtknight> WNxCryptic,  sudo iwconfig eth0 key open
[04:59] <dager> mutt-ng <3
[04:59] <bokey> WNxCryptic, well i guess it's more of his/her choice
[04:59] <bokey> np
[05:00] <xtknight> hrmm?
[05:00] <dk_ii> its not ?
[05:00] <Xenguy> as in freedom
[05:00] <Aemo> @xtknight, any solutions possible, i wouldnt mind using a non opensource bootloader, anything besides acronis
[05:00] <WNxCryptic> @xt
[05:00] <_nando_> good evening everyone
[05:00] <Xenguy> dk_ii: mutt is a better choice IMHO, but to each their own :-)
[05:00] <xtknight> Aemo, what is the problem with chainloading?
[05:00] <dk_ii> some reason its not in the repos?
[05:01] <_nando_> i need help to set up ssh... if someone can help please prv me
[05:01] <dk_ii> i'll try mutt too
[05:01] <Xenguy> dk_ii: it's not free as in freedom, likely :-)
[05:01] <madman91> where can i find a list of rss viewers>
[05:01] <madman91> ?
[05:01] <bokey> neither is so many drivers available in non-free. they aren't free either.
[05:01] <wastrel> dk_ii:  pine isn't open source
[05:01] <tam> right, this is going to sound very daft and OT, anyway, what is the cartoon character that has a beard, it's quite an old cartoon and its not captain haddock..can anyone help?
[05:01] <WNxCryptic> @XT: No eth0 device, my ifconfig only lists lo and ra1
[05:01] <Pelo> _nando_,  no ask your qestions in public, so we can all laugh at you
[05:01] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, use ra1 intead
[05:01] <dk_ii> oic
[05:01] <xtknight> Aemo, sorry not sure about other boot loaders..
[05:01] <Xenguy> bokey: I know it's hard to believe, but many linux users try to use free software when they can =)
[05:02] <_nando_> Pelo: :P... nice attitude
[05:02] <Aemo> @xtknight, its more of personal preference, its a bit annoying have to go thru more than 1 menu
[05:02] <WNxCryptic> @XT: No output after I entered the command, no apparent change in the little network icon in top right, checking network settings right now.
[05:02] <xtknight> Aemo, you might be able to work up some weird solution.  im sure it's possible somehow using .bin files from grub or smoething.  but i wouldnt be able to describe the procedue
[05:02] <Aemo> like to keep things simple
[05:02] <yamathan> Okay, this is something of a specialty question --
[05:02] <LM1> If ubuntu freezes with your liveCD how do you debug it to find what is causing the error
[05:02] <yamathan> Does anyone know how to mount an ATI AIW card as a radio tuner?
[05:02] <Xenguy> dk_ii: mutt will pay you back a thousand times for your patience - start by grabbing a good .muttrc file off the web
[05:02] <yamathan> Keep in mind right now I'm using an nvidia card for video.
[05:02] <WNxCryptic> @xt: Roaming mode still enabled.
[05:02] <yamathan> *Nvidia, even
[05:02] <dager> dk_ii: I can share mine with you, if you want
[05:03] <Aemo> @xtknight: that method is recommended for the linux noob, is it?
[05:03] <Aemo> isnt*
[05:03] <dager> dk_ii: the ArchLinux wiki has a really good entry on mutt as well, helped me with my initial setup greatly
[05:03] <_nando_> here it goes... how can i test if ssh port is open from my own computer? i do not have access to a remote shell
[05:03] <xtknight> LM1, try "noacpi nolapic noapic acpi=verbose irqpoll pci=irqroute" to try and get your pc in a semi-usable state
[05:03] <_nando_> i believe the firewall settings are ok
[05:03] <xtknight> LM1, at kernel params at livecd prompt
[05:03] <wastrel> _nando_:  ssh localhost
[05:03] <xtknight> Aemo, nope ;O
[05:04] <LM1> thanks xt...
[05:04] <LM1> :D
[05:04] <_nando_> wastrel: that works... but i cannot ssh to my computer from work
[05:04] <Xenguy> _nando_: lsof |grep -i listen
[05:04] <Xenguy> _nando_: ... should show the ports that are 'LISTENING'
[05:04] <WNxCryptic> @XT: iwconfig lists ESSID: "linksys" but cannot otherwise access internet.
[05:04] <_nando_> xenguy: nice tip
[05:04] <TodoInTX> dk_ii: try nano, some distros even symlink/alias it to pico,
[05:04] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, sorry i /hate/ wireless problems
[05:04] <xtknight> i'd rather stab myself honestly
[05:04] <xtknight> lol
[05:04] <WNxCryptic> lol
[05:04] <corden> xtknight just want to ask regading EULA in the terminal
[05:04] <wastrel> _nando_:  do you have the port forwarded in your router/gateway/firewall ?
[05:04] <WNxCryptic> So woudl I, would it fix this issue.
[05:04] <xtknight> maybe ;P
[05:05] <xtknight> !wireless
[05:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:05] <xtknight> these are more likely to ^^
[05:05] <_nando_> i am not sure how clever is the adsl modem i have
[05:05] <mister_roboto> _nando_: do you have the port forwarded through your router? (if you have one)   does your work location allow outbound connections on port 22?
[05:05] <xtknight> corden, hrmm EULA?
[05:05] <Xenguy> _nando_: er, sudo that
[05:05] <xtknight> corden, sorry kinda forgot your question
[05:05] <_nando_> i am stilll looking for a manual for that
[05:05] <corden> end user license a
[05:05] <xtknight> yea eula for what?
[05:05] <Fonty> Hello can I get some help?
[05:05] <xtknight> !ask
[05:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:06] <Fonty> lol okay
[05:06] <corden> i installed a program that have EULA, i was stock on it.
[05:06] <Aemo> Wireless problems!!!! WOOT. my intel proset 3945ABG worked straight after installation.. as well as in the live boot install
[05:06] <xtknight> corden, what EULA is coming up?  vmware?  java?
[05:06] <xtknight> oh
[05:06] <xtknight> press Q and type "yes" to accept it
[05:06] <xtknight> generally
[05:06] <xtknight> it's a 'more' script.  you exit it or scroll all the way down
[05:06] <dk_ii> whats the postfix? can I leave it at No Configuration?
[05:06] <corden> that's what i'm been looking for
[05:06] <corden> just like a man command
[05:06] <Fonty> ubuntu won't mount my cdrom, it was working fine on install then all of a sudden it's just not there
[05:06] <esac> running feisty on laptop with touchpad. if i click on a button sometimes that click will not 'register' until after i've moved my mouse. any ideas ?
[05:06] <Xenguy> dk_ii: an MTA (delivers email)
[05:07] <dager> dk_ii: its a drop-in replacement for sendmail
[05:07] <Shoeb> So, no one?
[05:07] <wastrel> esac:  feisty support is #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <cyris> How do I go about extracting a windows executable file ? i dont have access to windows atm :/
[05:07] <Xenguy> dk_ii: you probably want at least local mail delivery with postfix
[05:07] <Flannel> !wine | cyris
[05:07] <Aemo> @xtknight, does ubuntu have temp files that need cleaning?
[05:07] <Xenguy> cyris: what are you actually wanting to do?
[05:07] <ubotu> cyris: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:07] <Aemo> @xt how can i save some space
[05:08] <xtknight> Aemo, `sudo apt-get autoclean` to wipe dpkg cache
[05:08] <latitude> why is it that edgy will play some vcds and some wont?
[05:08] <cyris> Flannel: isn't their an easier way ? id rather not use wine.
[05:08] <wastrel> cyris:  if it's a self-extracting zip, unzip might do it
[05:08] <Rio79> i cant seem to write to a ubuntu harddrive that is share through samba from windows.  does it matter what type of harddrive it is? (ext3 versus fat32)........no one knows?
[05:08] <Aemo> @xt thanks
[05:08] <cyris> wastrel i'll give it a go.
[05:08] <Harpette> Aemo: look into the deborphan pkg too
[05:09] <cyris> wastrel: no good :S
[05:09] <xtknight> !samba
[05:09] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:09] <Fonty> ubuntu won't mount my cdrom, it was working fine on install then all of a sudden it's just not there, can someone help me with this?
[05:09] <wastrel> mmm samba. i'm reading the book atm
[05:09] <xtknight> Fonty, pastebin "sudo lshw -class disk"
[05:09] <xtknight> !pastebin
[05:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:09] <_nando_> should i install ssh or open-ssh?
[05:09] <xtknight> is there even a regular ssh?
[05:10] <Xenguy> _nando_: openssh is best
[05:10] <xtknight> ah it's a transitional pkg
[05:10] <_nando_> they are different packages
[05:10] <wastrel> openssh-server for sshing  but you already have it installed it sounds like
[05:10] <Flannel> _nando_: ssh is a metapackage, just points ot open-ssh
[05:10] <xtknight> yea
[05:10] <xtknight> ssh=openssh
[05:10] <_nando_> ok!
[05:10] <latitude> why is it that edgy will play some vcds and some wont? please help. appreciate it
[05:10] <Xenguy> _nando_: what Flannel said
[05:11] <cyris> well theres a few versions of ssh correct ?
[05:11] <cyris> and a few releases of ssh right ?
[05:11] <Xenguy> cyris: openssh (client and server :-)
[05:11] <peptobismal> hi, i am trying to install ubuntu, but my video resolution wont go above 640x680 and i cant see the buttons, i am using an nvidia pcix 5750, ive tried installing nvida drivers but it tells me to shut off x
[05:11] <cyris> yup
[05:11] <_nando_> xenguy: i tried the lsof command... the first number is the pid and the second number is...?
[05:11] <pluma> Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between the keyboard layouts? Clicking the indicator applet is not exactly fast.
[05:11] <Xenguy> cyris: some ssh are more open than others
[05:11] <Aemo> @xtknight after sudo apt-get autoclean, what comes next?
[05:12] <xtknight> Aemo, not sure
[05:12] <Fonty> err. xtknight I don't need to paste heaps, I just want to know how to get my cdrom drive back
[05:12] <xtknight> Fonty, you need to paste heaps to get your cdrom drive back ;)
[05:12] <Harpette> peptobismal: so, have you shut off X?
[05:12] <peptobismal> how
[05:12] <Fonty> heaps of what?
[05:12] <xtknight> Fonty, type "sudo lshw -class disk" in the terminal and pastebin that
[05:12] <xtknight> it will output text
[05:12] <Harpette> peptobismal: ctl+alt+backspace
[05:12] <peptobismal> when i do control+f1 and try to run it it still says x is running
[05:12] <xtknight> too much to paste into this channel
[05:12] <peptobismal> same thing with that 2
[05:13] <Xenguy> _nando_: actually not sure, I'd have to read the man page - dunno if it's all that important tho in most cases
[05:13] <peptobismal> and i do startx and it says xserver is already running
[05:13] <xtknight> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[05:13] <Aemo> @xtknight by using that command, does it clean it for you, or do you have to run it afterwards
[05:13] <peptobismal> so apparantly x isnt turning off when i do that
[05:13] <diabolix> is there some place i can browse all of the ubuntu source code?
[05:13] <xtknight> Aemo, hm i think you have to run it whenever you want to clean cache.  cache is persistent until then
[05:13] <xtknight> diabolix, thru the repositories
[05:13] <xtknight> diabolix, "apt-get source Pkgname"
[05:14] <_nando_> does /etc/inetd.conf have anything to do with configuring ssh?
[05:14] <xtknight> if ssh is an inetd daemon
[05:14] <xtknight> maybe
[05:14] <xtknight> i dont know
[05:14] <Fonty> what do I put in syntax xt?
[05:14] <Xenguy> !enter
[05:14] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:14] <xtknight> Fonty, doesnt matter
[05:14] <WNxCryptic> Gah!
[05:14] <Harpette> peptobismal: so you installed the nvidia drivers while running the live CD?
[05:14] <Aemo> @xtknight, is it suppose to show up under applications?
[05:14] <peptobismal> i tried
[05:14] <peptobismal> its not worken
[05:14] <WNxCryptic> XT: When I follow those tutorials I keep getting "Operation not permitted"
[05:14] <_nando_> mmm... i will have to google and man a little bit more :P
[05:14] <peptobismal> i cant turn off x to do it
[05:14] <xtknight> Aemo, what is supposed to show under Applications?
[05:14] <Aemo> autoclean
[05:15] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, need a sudo maybe?
[05:15] <peptobismal> it goes to the prompt, but it says x still hasnt shut down
[05:15] <xtknight> Aemo, no that isnt under Applications.  it's "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[05:15] <WNxCryptic> @XT: and using sudo doesn't seem to return anything (some commands are supposed to return info)
[05:15] <Harpette> peptobismal: do you know your monitor specs?
[05:15] <mlyon> I cant get Gnome to restart using ctrl-alt-delete!!
[05:15] <xtknight> ctlr alt backspaec
[05:15] <peptobismal> umm...
[05:15] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, what cmds?
[05:15] <peptobismal> not much of them
[05:15] <mlyon> ay yay yaaaayy
[05:15] <mlyon> thanks
[05:15] <JJ|Laptop> fuck, 1000 users...
[05:15] <Aemo> @xt after using that command, does it install autoclean? and i have to execute it?
[05:15] <xtknight> !language
[05:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:16] <peptobismal> magnavox, lcd, max res 1024x768 and native res, umm 15 inch
[05:16] <JJ|Laptop> almsot ##linux and #debian together
[05:16] <peptobismal> its also an hdtv
[05:16] <xtknight> Aemo, "autoclean is like install.  it's a command.  you dont install autoclean"
[05:16] <xtknight> Aemo, exactly "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[05:16] <xtknight> not install autoclean
[05:16] <Fonty> xt I get l sudo lshw -class disk
[05:16] <xtknight> Fonty, i need the URL of the pastebin?
[05:16] <overrider> for display purposes, id like to be able to switch around gnome and kde. can i just install kde-desktop, and be able to choose window manager before logging in? thanks
[05:17] <Fonty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15311/
[05:17] <latitude> why is it that edgy will play some vcds and some wont? please help. appreciate it
[05:17] <Aemo> @xt i used sudo apt-get autoclean, now how do i make it clean?
[05:17] <peptobismal> harp did u see my specs?
[05:17] <peptobismal> it got wiped off pretty fast
[05:17] <xtknight> Fonty, sorry lol.  go to Applicatios->Terminal.  type that command there.  it will output some different text.  THAT is what you want on pastebin ;)
[05:17] <Harpette> peptobismal: what about the horizontal and vertical refresh rates?
[05:17] <peptobismal> 60hz
[05:17] <Fonty> okay :)
[05:17] <WNxCryptic> @XT: Well specifically "iwconfig ra1 ap addresshere" always says "bad address"
[05:18] <xtknight> hmm
[05:18] <xtknight> isnt that expecting a MAC address?
[05:18] <Harpette> peptobismal: each should be a range
[05:18] <_nando_> i don't have a static ip, so i use dyndns... could that be the reason for not reaching ssh? ping seems to work fine
[05:18] <peptobismal> i have no idea then
[05:18] <WNxCryptic> @XT yes, which I put in.
[05:18] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, in 00:00:00..form?
[05:18] <Harpette> peptobismal: Google search your monitor specs, or look in the manual if you have it
[05:18] <WNxCryptic> @XT: yes.
[05:18] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, "sudo iwconfig ra1 ap 00:00:00:00:00:00"  should do it...
[05:19] <pluma> Is there any way to define a keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboard layouts? Or any way to define a custom keyboard layout?
[05:19] <Kaladar> Using ubuntu edgy, for some reason, cannot update "libggl2". It shows as an update, but its grayed out. Has anyone seen this?
[05:19] <Fonty> xt here is the new url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15312/
[05:19] <xtknight> Kaladar, using beryl or sometihng?
[05:19] <WNxCryptic> @xt : also, searching for the "Channel" that a network is on using ""iwconfig ra1 channel N" does not do anything.
[05:19] <xtknight> WNxCryptic, hm i dont even know what that's supposed to do
[05:19] <Kaladar> xtknight, No sir
[05:19] <Aemo> @xt, i understand now. autoclean isnt another package that cleans for you
[05:20] <dk_ii> dager, if you don't mind please could I see your .muttrc file?
[05:20] <Xenguy> _nando_: here's a test you could try...
[05:20] <WNxCryptic> NVM..I'll fiddle with it.
[05:20] <xtknight> Fonty, running Edgy?
[05:20] <xtknight> Kaladar, any third party repositories?
[05:20] <_nando_> i am listening (ehhr... reading)
[05:20] <xtknight> libggi2 you mean?
[05:21] <xtknight> Fonty, weird i have seen that problem before.  your cdrom is detected but it is "UNCLAIMED".  i think it can't find a driver.  but you said it worked on the LiveCD???
[05:21] <Fonty> I don't know what edgy is.
[05:21] <Harpette> peptobismal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:21] <xtknight> Fonty, what verison of Ubuntu?
[05:21] <xtknight> version*
[05:21] <xtknight> Edgy Eft is the codename for version 6.10, the current version
[05:21] <ian_> hi @ aaroncampbell, abcdef, Absum, adaptr, Ademan_, adjioev, adnans, Aemo, afonic, Agenor, Agrajag, aib, aib_, aidehua, aimaz, aixing, ajmorris_, AJ_Z0, ak_, aKKiLLa, Alam_Ubuntu, Alan, alexicon, aleX-xx, AlienX, alindeman, alkalineX, Alonea, Alumin, Amaranth, AMDXP, ammiel, AmyRose, AndrewB, Android, androxxl, AndyMcM, AngryElf, animal_, ansaguy, aNtiBiOteK, Anti-Tedd, aoupi_, apecat, apokryphos, arcade, archangelpetro, ardchoille, arejay, aricz, a
[05:21] <Xenguy> _nando_: change the 'port' you are using in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to, say, 2345; then re-start the ssh server (/etc/init.d/ssh restart); then try ssh'ing from work into your home box via port 2345
[05:21] <xtknight> ian_, why did you do that?
[05:21] <peptobismal> harpette: what am i looking for again?
[05:21] <xtknight> Feisty Fawn is the codename for the new version of ubuntu coming out soon 7.04
[05:22] <Kaladar> @xtknight, Universe, Main, multiverse, restricted
[05:22] <kneeki> ... oh crap!
[05:22] <Alonea> ian_: hello to you too...
[05:22] <ardchoille> ian_: Please don't do that again.
[05:22] <_nando_> xenguy: i will give that a try
[05:22] <Pelo> xtknight,  he just found a new way of being annoying
[05:22] <Aemo> ITs coming out on the 19th i think
[05:22] <Harpette> peptobismal: how to view the whole enchilada when installing Ubuntu
[05:22] <kneeki> I uninstalled the drivers I got my ATI.com, and now my session auto logs me out when i attempt to login
[05:22] <Alumin> any of you guys have experience with dellmgr / PERC RAID cards?
[05:22] <Xenguy> _nando_: the point is to test if your work firewall is blocking outgoing port 22 (as someone mentioned earlier)
[05:22] <xtknight> Kaladar, hrm.  libggi2 is "held back" you mean?
[05:22] <Fonty> um not sure exact version, I downloaded the latest beta version though
[05:22] <kneeki> I get an errors message: .:106: Can't open /etc/profile
[05:22] <peptobismal> harpette: i mean what about my monitor am i looking for >.<
[05:22] <kneeki> Any ideas?
[05:22] <Ademan_> hi ian_
[05:22] <xtknight> Kaladar, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in the terminal.  what then happens?
[05:22] <_nando_> i also asked an ubuntu user...
[05:22] <rai7> hello, does anyone here use beryl with an ati card?
[05:23] <_nando_> that doesn't seem to be the problem
[05:23] <tehkain> Anyone having issues with tonites -2.6.20-14 update?
[05:23] <xtknight> Fonty, what version of ubuntu are you running right now?
[05:23] <Harpette> peptobismal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-e2249d4bcb9fe0dea110f9b82ec7a40716221541
[05:23] <Alumin> dellmgr has this awesome interface with freaking no help whatsoever, so I had to choose between "rebuild" and "reconstruct" and chose the wrong one
[05:23] <Fonty> how do I check xt?
[05:23] <Alumin> so now it's busily converting my 66GB RAID-1 array to a RAID-0
[05:23] <Xenguy> _nando_: if you are talking to me, prepend my nick; I am on many channels
[05:23] <xtknight> Fonty, type "lsb_release -a" in the terminal
[05:23] <Alumin> thanks Dell
[05:23] <Kaladar> @xtknight, "could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[05:23] <xtknight> Kaladar, close update-manager
[05:23] <Alumin> I'm just wondering if I'll be able to convert it back after it's done
[05:23] <Harpette> peptobismal: the horizontal and vertical refresh rates, in Hertz and kiloHertz, both in ranges
[05:24] <Alonea> Ok, according to a guy in #winehq, the wine packages in adept are borked.
[05:24] <Dynatron> #swgemu
[05:24] <kneeki> xtknight: I removed the ATI drivers the way you said, but it seems to not work now
[05:24] <Fonty> 6.10 xt
[05:24] <xtknight> frequency range for your monitor, usually in the manual.  horizontal is in kHz, vertical in Hz
[05:24] <kneeki> xtknight: When I login, it says that it cannot open my profile
[05:24] <Kaladar> xtknight, "0 upgraded, 0 new, 0 removed, 1 not upgraded
[05:24] <Fonty> codename edgy ;)
[05:24] <Kaladar> so, yes, its being held back
[05:24] <Xanthus3545> can some one give the site to download the ubuntu alt cd please
[05:24] <xtknight> Fonty, yeah. hmm.  i'm not sure what's wrong with the drive.  you said it worked on the LiveCD ?
[05:25] <xtknight> Xanthus3545, Fonty,
[05:25] <Fonty> It worked after install too xt.
[05:25] <xtknight> Xanthus3545, http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[05:25] <xtknight> Fonty, hmm.  it just suddenly stopped?
[05:25] <Xanthus3545> Thank you
[05:25] <arrow> Qwell[] : yeah, thats what I meant to say, I'm having trouble burning them, they're in .avi containers (I think thats whats its called), I tried gnomebaker and k3b
[05:25] <Fonty> Then suddenly both drive icons dissappeared from my desktop.
[05:25] <Fonty> after a reboot, it has crashed a few times
[05:25] <xtknight> Fonty, that's odd.  a driver isn't being loaded for the drive but i'm not sure why.
[05:25] <Kaladar> @xtknight, the pkg is actually "libggi2"
[05:26] <dope> what's the command to pull up your network interfaces?
[05:26] <arrow> I'm having trouble burning x264 movies (.avi container) with gnomebaker, and k3b does anyone know how to burn x264 files?
[05:26] <Xenguy> dope: ifconfig
[05:26] <xtknight> Kaladar, try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to force update i guess
[05:26] <dope> thgx
[05:26] <Fonty> So I'm probably going to have to reinstall it all then?
[05:26] <bruenig> arrow, as data?
[05:26] <xtknight> Kaladar, should be able to grab libggi2 then
[05:26] <xtknight> i dont know why it's not going thru the normal upgrade
[05:26] <draconius> anybody in here using a system with an nvidia nforce 2200 professional chipset?
[05:26] <_nando_> does it exist something to test ssh from an external computer without a shell account (e.g. a website)? i would find the problem much faster...
[05:26] <arrow> bruenig, I'm trying to burn movies and make them play in my dvd player, whatever works
[05:26] <draconius> I've got a tyan tiger k8we  thats running great ... except under heavy disk access, it hard locks up
[05:27] <bruenig> !info devede | arrow
[05:27] <dope> does anyone in here have any experience with either darkstat or gnump3d?
[05:27] <ubotu> arrow: devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[05:27] <xtknight> kneeki, regular ati doesnt work?
[05:27] <Kaladar> xtknight, still says its held back. must not be a big deal, i imagine
[05:27] <cyris> Flannel: wow wine did the job quick, thanks
[05:27] <xtknight> Kaladar, hrm dont know
[05:27] <Xenguy> _nando_: shields up  ?
[05:27] <arrow> thx bruenig
[05:27] <Kaladar> and everything is running fine. just curious why its holding back :/
[05:27] <Aemo> i need wine for windows..
[05:27] <CharonX> Is there any channel specific to mechanical engineering or inventing ? I have a "ridiculous" but fun project I need a little help on
[05:27] <_nando_> xenguy: i don't get what you mean...
[05:28] <Kaladar> thanks, xtknight
[05:28] <xtknight> CharonX, i dont know.  you could try Anandtech forums Highly Technical section
[05:28] <wastrel> CharlieSu:  #robotics is the closest i can think of
[05:28] <wastrel> er, CharonX
[05:28] <Harpette> CharonX: try the room list and look at the topics of the channels
[05:28] <Xenguy> _nando_: http://www.grc.com/
[05:29] <Xenguy> _nando_: try testing port 22 (or whatever port you have ssh configured for) and see what happens
[05:29] <kneeki> xtknight: not at all. That's what i'm trying to use now
[05:29] <arrow> bruenig, do I have to have edgy to get that, or can I stick with dapper?
[05:29] <xtknight> kneeki, so youre on a diff PC now?
[05:29] <kneeki> xtnight: and now, I cannot even do the CTRL ALT F1 deal
[05:29] <_nando_> xenguy: that was what i was looking for... thanx!
[05:29] <bruenig> arrow, you need to get edgy
[05:29] <kneeki> xtknight: yes, my windows bos
[05:29] <kneeki> box*
[05:29] <arrow> bruenig: will do
[05:29] <xtknight> kneeki, i would go in recovery mode.  then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:29] <xtknight> kneeki, to get a working desktop first
[05:29] <kneeki> when I do CTRL ALT F1, my screen does some crazy color thing, and everything is unreadable
[05:30] <kneeki> ok
[05:30] <kneeki> xtknight: to get to recovery, i boot from cd right?
[05:30] <Aemo> how do i know the nvidia drivers are accelerating
[05:30] <xtknight> kneeki, it should be at the normal grub prompt (recovery mode for a particular kernel)
[05:30] <xtknight> Aemo, glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:30] <Xenguy> _nando_: I can tell you right now that your SSH server is listening on port 22 :-)
[05:30] <kneeki> xtknight, ok. i'll check that
[05:30] <_nando_> great!
[05:30] <peptobismal> harpette: none of them worked
[05:31] <_nando_> xenguy: did you ssh it?
[05:31] <Harpette> peptobismal: what did you do?
[05:31] <diabolix> why is the vesa driver in ubuntu so slow?
[05:31] <xtknight> in feisty it seems a lot faster
[05:31] <Xenguy> _nando_: yes
[05:31] <xtknight> im not sure
[05:31] <_nando_> xenguy: thanks a lot... i appreciate your effort
[05:31] <diabolix> maybe it was just that release of xorg...
[05:32] <peptobismal> use the nvidia driver thing, the auto detect things, and incorrect default depth,
[05:32] <cyris> Flannel: actually maybe not :S
[05:32] <Xenguy> _nando_: so your work is probably blocking port 22 outgoing, which is usually easy to work around with another port
[05:32] <Xenguy> _nando_: yw
[05:32] <kneeki> xtknight, okay found the recovery mode, booting now
[05:32] <cyris> Anyone have a macbook with working wireless ?
[05:32] <_nando_> you people are the ones which make ubuntu a great os :)
[05:32] <Alumin> you know, you'd think if you were going to make a raid tool with no help screens
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> When Feisty will be released ?
[05:33] <Harpette> peptobismal: i wouldn't worry about the nvidia driver just yet. i would ensure that X has the right monitor specs and restart X
[05:33] <xtknight> MacLinuxMaster, April 19th
[05:33] <Alumin> you could at least put in a little confirmation screen "oh by the way are you sure you want to rearrange a 66GB array?"
[05:33] <xtknight> !Feisty
[05:33] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> ok
[05:33] <Aemo> @xt is it possible to pimp my GRUB
[05:33] <Harpette> peptobismal: if you tell me what specs you've found i can try to guide you
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> I think it was today
[05:33] <MacLinuxMaster> It is delayed ?
[05:33] <peptobismal> how i restart x, thats what im trying to do, ctrl+backspace takes me to fullscreen console, it still says x is running
[05:33] <xtknight> Aemo, umm well grub is the 'graphical' boot loader, so yes; )
[05:33] <diabolix> you can put a splash behind grub..
[05:33] <green> beryl is sweet
[05:33] <peptobismal> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6986112&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050032&id=1099389620562
[05:33] <xtknight> it's open source heh
[05:34] <Alumin> xtknight: actually it's "grand unified boot loader" :)
[05:34] <Aemo> is beryl the cube thing?
[05:34] <Harpette> peptobismal: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:34] <xtknight> ohh
[05:34] <Aemo> !beryl
[05:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:34] <xtknight> yeah
[05:34] <Alumin> but nonetheless it is pimpable
[05:34] <xtknight> grand unified pimpability.
[05:34] <diabolix> you can pimp lilo too.
[05:34] <peptobismal> harpette: i told you ive tried that, but the drivers tell me that x server is still running, and when i hit ctrl+f7 i can continue what i was doing before i restarted x
[05:34] <Alumin> yah
[05:35] <Alumin> lilo has breakout
[05:35] <Aemo> i want ubuntu on my ps3
[05:35] <peptobismal> harpette: its almost as if its just giving me a command prompt without doing anything else
[05:35] <xtknight> Aemo, you can have it
[05:35] <diabolix> i would not recomend ubuntu on a ps3.
[05:35] <Alumin> for bootloader functionality, it's grub hands-down...but lilo has better candy
[05:35] <xtknight> ps3 kernel works sorta i believe
[05:35] <Alumin> heh
[05:35] <diabolix> ubuntu uses too much ram for the ps3.
[05:35] <Aemo> you think they will ever have the RSX chip working under linux?
[05:36] <diabolix> probably not.
[05:36] <xtknight> rsx?  is that the nvidia proprietary?
[05:36] <Aemo> yea
[05:36] <diabolix> no
[05:36] <xtknight> doubt it.  use vesa
[05:36] <Harpette> peptobismal: that's strange. did you start several instanmces of X, by any chance? Earlier you wrote that you did startx and what not
[05:36] <diabolix> it uses a special kernel module that gets you 2d acceleration.
[05:36] <diabolix> vesa is an x86 spec, so no. not vesa.
[05:36] <Aemo> !vessa
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vessa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <Aemo> !vesa
[05:36] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[05:37] <diabolix> i have slackintosh on my ps3.
[05:37] <Aemo> they wont enable rsx because of pirating right?
[05:37] <diabolix> thats probably it.
[05:38] <Alumin> uh
[05:38] <diabolix> they don't want people buying it to play open source games yet.
[05:38] <diabolix> like quake 3.
[05:38] <Alumin> good thing they're doing that, then...cause then people would be able to pirate games
[05:38] <Aemo> yea, i want to play nexuiz
[05:38] <Alumin> which they can't do now :)
[05:39] <sdlfk> WOOOHOOO!
[05:39] <diabolix> well.. you still need to do a few things to pirate games. you would have to figure out the whole call structure of their os.
[05:39] <sdlfk> I mean.. *whisper* yay
[05:39] <diabolix> its still cool to have a cell workstation.
[05:39] <kneeki> Grr, anyone have any ideas why sometimes during boot my system will just hang for around a minute, then continue booting and disabling all my USB ports? Gawd thats annoying
[05:39] <Aemo> i hope someone hacks it so RSX works, not to play backups but to play opensource!
[05:39] <xtknight> next version of ubuntu is Gutsy Gibbon
[05:39] <diabolix> sony will let it work eventually.
[05:40] <kneeki> xtknight: it didn't work =(
[05:40] <kneeki> Got the same error
[05:40] <diabolix> sony will let it happen as soon as they make money on the ps3.
[05:40] <Cosmo_>  I am trying to install the citrix vpn for my work using the instructions at https://<IP_ADDRESS>/full_linux_instructions.html but when I run the program it had me download this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15316/ , can anyone help me?
[05:40] <dirgedoll> hello. can you tell me how to find my c drive? i have kubuntu 6.10 thanks
[05:40] <xtknight> kneeki, same colored screen you mean?
[05:40] <Aemo> yup
[05:40] <Alumin> dirgedoll: it's probably /dev/hda1
[05:40] <diabolix> just like they did for the ps2.
[05:40] <kneeki> xtknight: only now its purple =\
[05:40] <dirgedoll> ok
[05:40] <kneeki> instead of pink
[05:40] <xtknight> kneeki, ;O hmm
[05:41] <xtknight> video card corruption?
[05:41] <xtknight> try a livecd with safe graphics mode
[05:41] <kneeki> No idea. The login screen looks normal though
[05:41] <xtknight> see if that works
[05:41] <pyrak> which one of these do i choose:
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux Fedora Core 5 version click here.
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux SuSE Intel version click here.
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux Debian Intel version click here.
[05:41] <pyrak> To download the Linux Generic Intel version click here.
[05:41] <xtknight> debian
[05:41] <xtknight> probably
[05:41] <xtknight> what is it?
[05:41] <bullgard4> What is the function of kernel object files (having the extension .ko)?
[05:41] <pyrak> firstclass(.com)
[05:41] <Alumin> bullgard4: usually they're modules
[05:41] <kneeki> xtknight: any ideas why my login screen would look normal, and my CTRL ALT F1 looks all fuggerd?
[05:41] <pyrak> i dunno...
[05:41] <Alumin> firstclass the BBS?
[05:41] <xtknight> bullgard4, they are kernel modules that are not built in to the kernel itself.  usually drivers
[05:42] <pyrak> no, its just an email clinety thingey
[05:42] <xtknight> kneeki, no idea
[05:42] <pyrak> its really crappy, but my school uses it
[05:42] <Alumin> oh
[05:42] <jimb0> i'm almost done migrating my work computer from windows xp to ubuntu. only problem: i need to run Visio to do network diagrams for my job. is there a way to run my windows xp partition in say a virtual machine within ubuntu to do this?
[05:42] <bullgard4> Alumin, xtknight : Thank you!
[05:42] <sdlfk> dirgedoll, depdns on if it's NTFS of FAT or what, but it's not always /dev/hda1, get a partitionar like disk druid of fdisk or something and look at all your drives and determine which one it is via disk space and how it's partitioned
[05:42] <xtknight> !vmware | jimb0
[05:42] <ubotu> jimb0: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:42] <jimb0> or another method?
[05:42] <xtknight> !wine
[05:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:42] <xtknight> !virtualizers
[05:42] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[05:42] <Alumin> I'd say vmware or crossover office
[05:42] <Aemo> !qemu
[05:42] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:43] <kneeki> *sigh* I been working on this stupid issue for the last 2 days strait =(
[05:43] <diabolix> none of them do 3d accelleration all that well.
[05:43] <pyrak> so which version do i dl!?
[05:43] <kneeki> driving me bonkers
[05:43] <pyrak> debian?
[05:43] <Alumin> pyrak: debian is closest to ubuntu
[05:43] <rai7> Hi, does anyone know how to make a mounted drive read-only? I'm using some drivers off of automatix, and it mounted my windows partition?
[05:43] <diabolix> jimb0, what is visio?
[05:43] <dirgedoll> ok i see somethingn that says 39g home is that the same as a c drive and if so why am i not seeing anything in it like you would in windows?
[05:43] <Alumin> the generic one should work regardless but will probably require more work to install
[05:44] <Aemo> you the cell processor can be tweaked to run windows thru an emulator somewhat near native or a little bit closer to native speeds?
[05:44] <Aemo> think*
[05:44] <Harpette> rai7: man fstab, and man mount
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > sdlfk !!!!!!!
[05:44] <sdlfk> 1000 Jeepster !
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > :D
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > yay@
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > !
[05:44] <dirgedoll> i am lost hehe
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > aw
[05:44] <pyrak> alumin, ewww, work...
[05:44] <sdlfk> You're on a J binge
[05:44] <Jeepster[] > me too
[05:44] <rai7> are those terminal commands?
[05:44] <sdlfk> one thousand and two
[05:44] <Harpette> rai7: yes
[05:44] <sdlfk> keep 'em comin'!
[05:44] <Aemo> QUESTION OF THE DAY, since i am running ubuntu, what should i take advantage of?
[05:44] <dirgedoll> what are they used for
[05:45] <sdlfk> Strike!
[05:45] <xtknight> sdlfk, please dont format it
[05:45] <Harpette> rai7: space bar to scroll forward, b to scroll backward, q to exit
[05:45] <Strike> sdlfk!
[05:45] <sdlfk> Are you following me?
[05:45] <diabolix> Aemo, why would you want windows on the cell?
[05:45] <Strike> yea
[05:45] <rai7> ooh, thanks
[05:45] <sdlfk> xtknight, oh no just splitting the persons haha mucho people
[05:45] <Strike> so wassup sdlfk
[05:45] <xtknight> :P
[05:45] <Harpette> rai7: to know how to use it really well, "man less"
[05:45] <Aemo> diabolix nvm, so i can play counter-strike!
[05:45] <xtknight> Aemo, take advantage of...ubuntu?
[05:45] <kneeki> xtknight: well, I booted off the live CD
[05:45] <sdlfk> Strike watching the count rise
[05:45] <Ltar> can Evolution be synched with Gmail?
[05:46] <dirgedoll> i am lost so very lost
[05:46] <Strike> ya same here
[05:46] <diabolix> ubuntu isn't a woman...
[05:46] <Strike> what!
[05:46] <Strike> it isnt!
[05:46] <Aemo> @xt maybe i worded that wrong... i mean what are the must haves when u have ubuntu
[05:46] <Strike> how is it having my kids then!
[05:46] <jimb0> diabolix: visio is a vector-based design app in ms office
[05:46] <Gokul> i'm trying to upgrade my system from breezy to dapper via the update-manager and I keep getting "unresolvable error"
[05:46] <sdlfk> lol Strike
[05:46] <sll> good evening
[05:46] <wastrel> jimb0:  tried dia ?
[05:46] <dimas__> any suggestion for a good place to get codecs to have totem work with microsoft media files and streams
[05:46] <Strike> hi sll
[05:46] <Strike> i havent seen you in awhile
[05:46] <diabolix> jimb0, wine is by far the best way to run windows apps, when it works.
[05:46] <sdlfk> ubuntu you shouldn't try reproducing with your OS anyway
[05:46] <Gokul> any suggestions on how to tackle this?
[05:46] <sdlfk> we don't need a StrikeOS
[05:46] <sdlfk> lol
[05:46] <diabolix> jimb0, but if it doesn't, then i recoment qemu.
[05:47] <Strike> ha that would be awesome
[05:47] <Ltar> Strike:  try cat /etc grep | uterus to see if ubuntu is a woman
[05:47] <diabolix> jimb0, does that do any 3d?
[05:47] <sdlfk> hahaha Ltar
[05:47] <Aemo> !aircrack
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aircrack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <Strike> lol
[05:47] <jimb0> so for my next question: why is installation of just about any non-apt package such a pain in the butt? make rarely seems to work like it's supposed to...
[05:47] <kneeki> Can I edit my current installed ubuntu from the live CD?
[05:47] <Aemo> !airsnort
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airsnort - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <wastrel> Ltar:  you can view your gcal in evo
[05:47] <xtknight> lol poor timing
[05:47] <sdlfk> all right I'm out!
[05:47] <Pablo--> hey guys.. nay idea if it's possible to install Ubuntu in text mode like old' redhat
[05:47] <Strike> No its not
[05:47] <xtknight> !alternate | Pablo--
[05:47] <Strike> bye
[05:47] <ubotu> Pablo--: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:47] <Pablo--> thanks :P
[05:47] <rai7> huh? less doesnt seem to have anything to do with mount?
[05:48] <dimas__>  any suggestion for a good place to get codecs to have totem work with microsoft media files and streams
[05:48] <jimb0> ie, if it requires unzipping and using make or ./configure, it probably wont install correctly for me
[05:48] <Aemo> any interesting apps for Ubuntu?
[05:48] <Aemo> that windows doesnt have
[05:48] <Aemo> ..
[05:48] <Ltar> wastrel: gcal?
[05:48] <xtknight> Aemo, hmm..  gnome-art ?
[05:48] <xtknight> Aemo, weather applet?
[05:48] <Had3l> Hey guys, first time here, I am trying to set up a wireless connection in Ubuntu on a laptop, just installed linux today, still trying to figure things out
[05:48] <diabolix> jimb0, honestly, if you use a distro other than ubuntu, installing from source is alot easier.
[05:48] <Gokul> i'm trying to upgrade my system from breezy to dapper via the update-manager and I keep getting "unresolvable error"
[05:48] <Had3l> Can anyone help me?
[05:48] <Harpette> Gokul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-1d23d3a3a8b3c464847785dd1f2ed05b0b24176a
[05:49] <wastrel> jimb0:  you installed build-essential i assume, you may also need to install -dev packages for the specific dependencies of the stuff you're compiling
[05:49] <dimas__> Aemo>>>kedenlive is a very good app
[05:49] <Harpette> rai7: less has much to do with how to read man pages
[05:49] <wastrel> ltar nvm
[05:49] <rai7> okay- so I think its unmount the windows drive- then   mount \media\hda1 -ro  ?
[05:50] <wastrel> jimb0:  dia is the linux visio (like gimp is the linux photoshop, so ymmv :)
[05:50] <Harpette> !wireless | Had3l
[05:50] <ubotu> Had3l: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:50] <wastrel> can't read existing visio files however.
[05:50] <pyrak> how do i tweak the settings on my touchpad?
[05:50] <Had3l> Thanks, I'll have a look, see if I can figure it out
[05:50] <Had3l> !wireless
[05:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:50] <bef> hey guys is there a good remastering software for ubuntu which makes me an .iso of what is currently configured? (for compiling a new distro)
[05:50] <Had3l> ah, there you go
[05:51] <Harpette> rai7: sounds about right. Also, change the "default" option by "noauto" in /etc/fstab
[05:51] <NemesisD> hi does anyone know of any good ubuntu applications that will just show the /dev addresses for attached hard drives? i'm trying to tell 2 connected hard drives apart
[05:51] <pyrak> so lets revisit the touchpad issue
[05:51] <jimb0> yeah i need to use Visio
[05:51] <dimas__>  any suggestion for a good place to get codecs to have totem work with microsoft media files and streams
[05:51] <macd> !info pdns
[05:51] <ubotu> pdns: meta package for the pdns nameserver. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.9.20-3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 52 kB
[05:51] <jimb0> nothing else will cut it, gotta share/send these to people
[05:51] <jimb0> so i guess ill have to get wine working
[05:51] <rai7> Harpette: I see, thanks a lot
[05:51] <the-erm> Anyone here run a mail server?  Postfix in particular.
[05:52] <Harpette> rai7: you're welcome
[05:52] <jimb0> is it stupid to try to get wine working from a visio executable on an ntfs winxp partition?
[05:52] <pyrak> so about my touchpad...
[05:52] <pyrak> is my touchpad that depressing?
[05:52] <kneeki> i am beginning to hate what i do not understand
[05:52] <jtt> bef: go to wiki and search for live cd customization
[05:52] <wastrel> pyrak:  synaptics touchhpad?
[05:52] <pyrak> ummm
[05:53] <rai7> Harpette: err, when you say change change "noauto" to "-ro"?
[05:53] <pyrak> its a notebook touchpad
[05:53] <pyrak> as in, in lieu of mouse
[05:53] <kneeki> xtknight: think i would have more luck with the feisty live cd?
[05:53] <xtknight> kneeki, did you say it still messed up the ttys even on the livecd?
[05:53] <Harpette> rai7: change the "default" option by "noauto" in /etc/fstab
[05:53] <kneeki> i don't know what ttys is
[05:53] <kneeki> =\
[05:53] <xtknight> kneeki, terminals ctrl alt F1
[05:53] <xtknight> those are the ttys
[05:53] <pyrak> wastrel, its just a bit too sensitive, wanna tweak that a bit if possible
[05:53] <kneeki> oh
[05:54] <NemesisD> is there any good way to get a listing of attached hard drives
[05:54] <xtknight> NemesisD, sudo lshw -class disk
[05:54] <kneeki> i booted from the live cd, but i wasnt sure if i could fix my install from there
[05:54] <Harpette> rai7: actually it's "defaults", with an s
[05:54] <wastrel> pyrak:  dig around in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[05:54] <kneeki> since it just loaded the entire OS
[05:54] <xtknight> NemesisD, it also lists CD/dvd drive and perhaps usb
[05:54] <rai7> Harpette: Ohhhhh
[05:54] <diabolix> why does gnome have to be such a resource hog.. i like the way it behaves but i really don't like its ram usage.
[05:54] <rai7> harpette: it wont automount that drive
[05:54] <xtknight> kneeki, i was saying try Ctrl Alt F1 on the livecd.  same color problem?
[05:54] <Harpette> diabolix: try XFCE
[05:54] <pyrak> wastrel, uhhh, on the ubuntu site?
[05:54] <xtknight> diabolix, odd.  runs fine here
[05:54] <rai7> Harpette: I see, thanks
[05:55] <xtknight> ram is made to be used
[05:55] <diabolix> i have a gig of ram, i shouldn't need xfce.
[05:55] <kneeki> xtknight: I didn't try it. I must have missed that message. However, i was able to use the desktop and all that, it all looked normal
[05:55] <wastrel> pyrak:  on your filesystem ??  it might not be installed by default, i usually get all the doc packages
[05:55] <Harpette> diabolix: XFCE is the default DE on Xubuntu
[05:55] <kneeki> i'm at root@kneeki-desktop now
[05:55] <kneeki> I booted from the grub repair deal
[05:55] <xtknight> kneeki, hmm
[05:55] <xtknight> kneeki, ohhh
[05:55] <xtknight> kneeki, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xortg
[05:55] <xtknight> did you do that?
[05:55] <xtknight> xserver-xorg  ***
[05:55] <kneeki> many times, yes
[05:55] <xtknight> try Feisty
[05:55] <xtknight> what do you have to lose?
[05:56] <kneeki> did the 'wizard' or whatever.
[05:56] <kneeki> lol, nothing
[05:56] <wastrel> pyrak:  man 5 synaptics   seems promising as well
[05:56] <kneeki> I have cedega installed, that's it
[05:56] <xtknight> ;P
[05:56] <kneeki> got a link to Feisty download?
[05:56] <diabolix> can you upgrade to feisty?
[05:56] <pyrak> wastrel, whats man 5 synaptics, an app?
[05:56] <xtknight> !upgrade
[05:56] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:56] <kneeki> imma bout to slam my head through my desk
[05:56] <xtknight> release candidate is out about now i think
[05:56] <pipepool> hi all, i have a problem: i was using Feisty when i realized that all my Desktop and home directories were erased. All except a directory with root privilegies and the hidden directories (.Directory). I was reading the logs and i dont find anything, anyone could help me please? Sorry for my english
[05:56] <Alumin> kneeki: are you just trying to get a working X config?
[05:56] <Alumin> or something else
[05:57] <xtknight> kneeki, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[05:57] <wastrel> pyrak:  man is the "manual"  the man command gives access to manual pages.  man 5 synaptics is "view the manual page for synaptics (in section 5 of the manual)
[05:57] <bef> jtt: the latest is for dapper?
[05:57] <wastrel> "
[05:57] <kneeki> xtknight: thanks bud. i'll give this a whirl
[05:57] <Harpette> pyrak: how to use man: space bar to scroll forward, b to scroll backward, q to exit
[05:58] <Aemo> @diabolix, how do you maintain and clean ubuntu, keeping it speedy
[05:58] <Alumin> if you're just trying to get X back, I find that "X -configure" almost always gives a functional, if minimalist, X config
[05:58] <kneeki> I have a 64 bit AMD cpu, should I give that a try?
[05:58] <kneeki> Or stick with i386
[05:58] <jtt> bef: that one should work for all versions
[05:58] <xtknight> kneeki, stick with i386
[05:58] <Alumin> it probably won't be great, but it'll get you out of the console
[05:58] <kneeki> ok
[05:58] <xtknight> less trouble
[05:58] <xtknight> doesnt sound like you need more
[05:58] <diabolix> Aemo, i've only been using ubuntu for 2 days
[05:58] <Aemo> aftero
[05:58] <Aemo> o
[05:58] <pyrak> wastrel, ok
[05:59] <pyrak> harpette, thanks
[05:59] <diabolix> i love how well it set everything up for me.. not sure i'll keep using it tho.
[05:59] <diabolix> i almost peed myself when my laptop suspended..
[05:59] <Harpette> pyrak: man uses the "less" pager. So, to know how to use man better, read "man less" and loom at the COMMANDS section
[06:00] <Aemo> @xtknight, ubuntu did its update (300 some programs) then i did apt-get update, was that unnecessary ?
[06:00] <xtknight> Aemo, update just updates apt's database.  'upgrade' is what actually updates all the packages
[06:00] <Aemo> yea i ran that command too
[06:00] <Aemo> was it unnecessary? since ubuntu already updated?
[06:01] <wastrel> hrm suspend
[06:01] <xtknight> Aemo, it was necessary if there was updates.
[06:01] <wastrel> i've never gotten suspend to work. i think it's an issue with fglrx
[06:01] <Aemo> alright, just wanted to make sure i wasnt wasting space
[06:01] <xtknight> Aemo, it does "apt-get update" periodically automatically if that's what you mean
[06:01] <NemesisD> xtknight, quick question, how would a usb drive be shown with that lshw command
[06:01] <xtknight> NemesisD, hmm.  it should be in -class disk?
[06:02] <xtknight> NemesisD, maybe not.  otherwise, try lsusb
[06:03] <pyrak> harpette, hmmm, the problem im having is that it uses tapping the pad as clicking, but i dont see an option to disable that..
[06:03] <xtknight> !gutsy
[06:03] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[06:03] <xtknight> i love that name
[06:03] <dirgedoll> how do i get permissions to view my c drive?
[06:04] <zero88> como estas hermanos
[06:04] <dirgedoll> anyone know?
[06:04] <jtt> dirgedoll: c drive as in windows  C:
[06:05] <dirgedoll> yeah
[06:05] <dirgedoll> mine says floppy 0
[06:05] <dirgedoll> or something like that
[06:05] <zero88> mount the drive
[06:05] <jtt> dirgedoll: are u on linux OS
[06:05] <dirgedoll> ok is there an easy way to do that
[06:05] <dirgedoll> yeah
[06:05] <dirgedoll> purely linux no windows for me!
[06:05] <dirgedoll> hehe
[06:06] <zero88> dirgedoll then why you have C:?
[06:06] <dirgedoll> i was just equating what I had with a c drive i didnt know what it was called in linux
[06:06] <jtt> dirgedoll:  df -k and see if i auto mounted
[06:06] <dirgedoll> so how do i mount my drive?
[06:06] <zero88> its /
[06:06] <Gokul> when i do this: sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver, it seems to want to remove: ubuntu-desktop xscreensaver. is it safe to continue?
[06:06] <Aemo> what distro does Dell sell with their comps?
[06:06] <zero88> and everyhting after that
[06:07] <jtt> dirgedoll: to see if it automounted
[06:07] <dirgedoll> so / df -k
[06:07] <zero88> gokul did u install xscreensaver?
[06:07] <dirgedoll> in a terminal?
[06:07] <jtt> dirgedoll: no  just   df -k  in a terminal window
[06:07] <Gokul> zero88: i think i had installed it sometime back
[06:07] <pyrak> ok, so how do i acces the XOrg/XFree86 config file?
[06:08] <jtt> dirgedoll:  should  display as  possibly  /dev/fd0  or   /dev/sda  etc
[06:08] <dirgedoll> a bunch of stuff came up
[06:08] <Gokul> zero88: i don't need the xscreensaver but i'm not sure if i should go ahead?
[06:08] <zero88> gokul try sudo find / -name xscreensaver
[06:09] <ceeg> does anyone know how i can make firefox work on pages that 'require ie', like fake its headers or something?
[06:09] <jtt> dirgedoll: do you know how to use paste bin
[06:09] <Ltar> I found a guide to sync gmail with evolution, but when the guide said to set "use secure connection" to "always", my options were only "no encryption" "TLS" or "SSL". Also, the setup never asked for a password to my gmail account? Attempting to check my gmail loads the send-server fine, but remains "waiting" forever in the download server (pop)
[06:09] <Ltar> halp?
[06:09] <zero88> and see where all the xscreensaver files are
[06:09] <dirgedoll> no
[06:09] <NemesisD> have any of you used with dd_rescue
[06:09] <zero88> !pastebin
[06:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:10] <jtt> !pastebin |dirgedoll
[06:10] <ubotu> dirgedoll: please see above
[06:10] <kneeki> xtknight: weird! I was having the same issue on my laptop (I did the exact same things on my desktop and laptop) and i got the same errors (duh). However, If I just stop the xserver, and restart it at the terminal line, i can run w/o any problems it seems
[06:10] <dirgedoll> !pastebin
[06:10] <Gokul> zero88: this is one of them - /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver and there are some in /usr/share, /usr/bin, /usr/lib etc, now what?
[06:10] <zxul767> Ltar use SSL for both the smtp and pop servers
[06:10] <kneeki> and, the downloaded ATI driver is gone
[06:10] <zero88> dirgedoll so what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:10] <jtt> !pastebin
[06:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:10] <xtknight> kneeki, really odd
[06:10] <kneeki> yeah
[06:10] <Had3l> question: I am running Ubuntu 6.10, but I see no Network Manager Icon. When I try to run "sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome" I get: "E: Couldn't find package netowrk-manager-gnome"
[06:10] <Had3l> What should I do?
[06:10] <xtknight> Had3l, it is in "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[06:10] <zero88> gokul you know how to make and run scripts?
[06:10] <dirgedoll> i was just trying to mount my drive to find some programs
[06:10] <pyrak> how do i enable SHMconfig?
[06:10] <jtt> dirgedoll: use paste bin to post what came out
[06:10] <dirgedoll> is my font big?
[06:10] <pyrak> and what is it?
[06:11] <Gokul> zero88: i could try, why?
[06:11] <zero88> dirgedoll so you have a dual boot system?
[06:11] <dirgedoll> !pastebin
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[06:11] <dirgedoll> no i dont
[06:11] <zero88> gokul its ok, ill give you a command to find and erase all the xscreensaver
[06:11] <Gokul> zero88: ok
[06:12] <Had3l> to "sudo apt-get install network-manager" - "E: Couldn't find package network-manager"
[06:12] <xtknight> weird
[06:12] <xtknight> !sources.list
[06:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:12] <pyrak> WTF IS SHMconfig!?!?!
[06:12] <xtknight> regenerate it or something
[06:12] <Aemo> @xtknight if i give 2003 its own bootloader, will i be able to have the 3 OSs under grub (ubuntu,vista,2003)
[06:12] <pluma> Anybody know what the <>| key (left of X on most keyboard layouts) is called in X11?
[06:12] <xtknight> !patience
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[06:12] <Ltar> zxul767: error- my gmail account is not set up for POP access?
[06:12] <xtknight> Aemo, yes
[06:13] <konam> someone could tell me a line of code to rip a dvd, i use to knew one but i forgot it......
[06:13] <dirgedoll> it looks like my hd was mounted
[06:13] <robert_> ugh
[06:13] <Gokul> zero88: sudo find / -name xscreensaver | xargs rm should do it, right?
[06:13] <zxul767> Ltar, you have to go to options in a web browser and set it up to use the pop server
[06:13] <pluma> i.e. the key next to AB01 -- apparently it's not BKSL.
[06:13] <TaJMoX> Hey what's a good desktop launcher dock thats noot an object  suite like gdesklets or superkaramba ?
[06:13] <Ltar> zxul767:  wait, nevermind- I just noticed- the error message smartly opened a gmail help page in the backround
[06:13] <zero88> gokul find / -name *xscreensaver* -exec rm -f -r {} \;
[06:13] <robert_> can I tell wtf is going wrong with my eth0 device?
[06:13] <zero88> gokul or that could do it,im not sure
[06:13] <robert_> it's not connecting to my router
[06:13] <TaJMoX> like whats a good small magnify launcher app for X ?
[06:13] <robert_> it recognizes dhcp
[06:14] <Had3l> what do you mean with "regenerate it"? I'm a total linux noob
[06:14] <Aemo> @xtknight, if i use repair for 2003, will it give its bootloader back?
[06:14] <zxul767> Ltar, good, that should solve your problem
[06:14] <robert_> but it gives me a bunch of "Permission denied" and an "Operation not permitted" error
[06:14] <zero88> dirgedoll you look in the mount folder yet?
[06:14] <pluma> Nevermind. Found it: LSGT
[06:14] <zero88> robert_ use sudo
[06:15] <dirgedoll> i dont know where it is, but in the terminal a bunch of stuff came up
[06:15] <robert_> zero88: I use 'sudo su -'
[06:15] <Ltar> zxul767: yeah, it did. thanks!
[06:15] <dirgedoll> like used available and mounted on
[06:15] <BFTD> How do i play protected .wma files
[06:15] <GauntletWizard> Does anyone have experience getting the tablet to work on a Toshiba portege 3500?
[06:15] <zero88> robert_ what command you using to give you permission denied
[06:15] <BFTD> they came from napster
[06:15] <jskulski> is wlan0 the new ra0?
[06:15] <zxul767> welcome dude!
[06:16] <robert_> 'dhclient3 eth0'
[06:16] <dirgedoll> let me see if i can find the folder
[06:16] <zero88> dirgedoll cd /mnt
[06:16] <wastrel> jskulski:  it depends on your wireless driver, my wireless interface is on eth1
[06:16] <Aemo> @xtknight, how bout i install grub to the 2003 partition, give it one menu item and 0 secs to choose
[06:16] <Had3l> yeah, my wireless is on eth1, but I still can't get it down
[06:16] <dirgedoll> ok theres another prompt
[06:17] <zero88> what does it say
[06:17] <jskulski> ok, well I have that device in iwconfig. I am trying to set up the rt61 driver according to the minihowto but somethings are different
[06:17] <dirgedoll> mnt$
[06:17] <zero88> ok now type ls -a
[06:17] <robert_> I'll have to type it all up
[06:17] <zero88> ls or ls -a
[06:17] <Aemo> if my wifi is eth0,, then where is my lan
[06:18] <drew> hey, when is feisty release date??
[06:18] <zero88> robert_ just put sudo infront of the command
[06:18] <dirgedoll> ok mnt$ again
[06:18] <TaJMoX> Nobody knows the name of an app launcher bar for the gnome desktop ?
[06:18] <wastrel> drew:  before the end of the month
[06:18] <Aemo> @dew, 18th or 19th
[06:18] <jtt> drew:  19th of april
[06:18] <drew> ok, thx
[06:18] <Toma-> TaJMoX: gnome-panel ?
[06:18] <zero88> dirgedoll typing ls didnt list any folder or files?
[06:18] <Aemo> i was going to print a label for fiesty, but i remembered i can get free fiesty! YAY
[06:18] <dirgedoll> no but when i did the other command a whole bunch of things came up
[06:19] <zero88> dirgedoll  ls should have show the folders and directoires
[06:19] <TaJMoX> Toma- I want one that magnifies
[06:19] <dirgedoll> the df -k command brought up a bunch of things
[06:19] <TaJMoX> but good suggestion
[06:19] <zero88> whats df -k?
[06:19] <Had3l> Can anyone help me? I am trying to set up a wireless in my laptop, I read the how to files in the wikis, but still, the "Network Manager" icon isn't showing up. I tried to do "sudo apt-get install network-manager" but I get "E: Couldn't find package network-manager". Am I completelly screwed?
[06:19] <dirgedoll> hmmmmm
[06:20] <_goofy_> how do i keep mythtv from starting on boot-up
[06:20] <Toma-> TaJMoX: gdesklets
[06:20] <zero88> had3l have you checked in the administration menu?
[06:20] <TaJMoX> Toma- Ah see I dont want the whole object suite thing     just the launcher
[06:20] <Had3l> I have Networking and Network Tools
[06:21] <shinichizio> I keep asking this and I always find some way around it. But eventually I'll need to so; how do I add repositories for downloading things?
[06:21] <zero88> had3l why you need network manager for? are you trying to search for your wireless access point?
[06:21] <robert_> zero88: I get the same thing
[06:22] <Had3l> yes
[06:22] <Toma-> TaJMoX: for gnome? hmm. not sure if there is one
[06:22] <zero88> robert_ are you trying to do something to files? if so you have to set the permissions on the files.what are you trying to do
[06:22] <GauntletWizard> Anyone know about setting up tablet PCs?
[06:22] <TaJMoX> Had31 /usr/bin/network-admin
[06:22] <gleesond> for some reason fiesty wont let me load fglrx
[06:22] <zero88> had3l download wifiradar
[06:22] <robert_> it's not me
[06:22] <robert_> it's dhclient3
[06:22] <robert_> and dhclient
[06:22] <robert_> I don't know what they're doing
[06:23] <dirgedoll> i think its mounted
[06:23] <pyrak> how do i open up a .conf file with write access?
[06:23] <_goofy_> anyone know anything about mythtv
[06:23] <zero88> had3l download wifi-radar and kwifimanager
[06:23] <TaJMoX> shinichizio its in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <zero88> robert_ oh..hm. im not sure what to do then
[06:23] <Had3l> Yeah, problem is I'm trying to connect to the wireless so that I can get to the internet :(
[06:23] <TaJMoX> pyrak: gksudo gedit (name of file)
[06:23] <pyrak> TajMoX
[06:24] <pyrak> ty
[06:24] <TaJMoX> yw
[06:24] <zero88> had3l are you on the computer you are trying to get to the internet?
[06:24] <pyrak> so gksudo is for opening programs?
[06:24] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Thanks muchly. But something I'm not sure about; is it better to add something to a repository and apt-get it than compile a tarball? Or can you not just apt-get everything?
[06:24] <kneeki> xtknight: Think its a good idea for me to use http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL_and_ATI <- that tutorial to get the drivers for my system?
[06:24] <TaJMoX> had31 : connect thru a wire and install the stuff you need
[06:24] <Had3l> Yeah I'll try that, so what do I need again? Wifi-Radar and Kwifimanager?
[06:25] <TaJMoX> shinichizio its better to use apt
[06:25] <zero88> yes
[06:25] <TaJMoX> shinichizio that way ouo get all the dependencies and youo can also removoe it when i need to
[06:25] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Okay, thanks.
[06:27] <TaJMoX> shinichizio remember to do apt-get update after you edit sources.list      and always backup everything in /etc that you edit
[06:27] <jtt> pyrak:  sudo vi  filename.conf
[06:27] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Okay. Thank you. Now, as far as adding things from specific pages, do I just throw the URL in the list?
[06:28] <Andiez> Yo wasup
[06:29] <TaJMoX> shinichizio the web page will provide youo with their debian source url ( starts with "deb " )
[06:29] <Andiez> Mhmm
[06:29] <robert_> http://rafb.net/p/EoVmLI36.html <-- this is what I get
[06:29] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Er. Where would that be exactly?
[06:29] <Andiez> Pretty much
[06:30] <TaJMoX> shinichizio : what are you trying to add to your apt
[06:30] <Andiez> Your sister
[06:30] <bullgard4> Some programs (e. g. Evolution, Pan) which use Gnome show the date as 'yesterday'. How can I change that to 2007-04-12 or similar?
[06:30] <TaJMoX> oO
[06:30] <TaJMoX> thats ez
[06:30] <zero88> lol
[06:30] <jskulski> is anyone familiar with the rt61 driver? the driver is loaded ok, and i had entered the information in the network manager and iwconfig gives the right SSID and all that. iwpriv does not seem to want to change anything
[06:30] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: A game. (Insert dramatic music, thunder) It's Gearhead Arena.
[06:30] <Andiez> Nope
[06:31] <plabridge> whats new in feasty?
[06:31] <TaJMoX> bullgard4 : right click on the clock and select "Adjust date & Time"
[06:31] <zero88> jskulski do u get signal status?
[06:31] <peptobismal> how do i turn off x server to install nvidia drivers?
[06:32] <GauntletWizard> How do I upgrade from breezy to a newer version, without a CD-drive?
[06:32] <jskulski> zero88:  not sure how you test that, but dhclient wlan0 seems like its communicating something.
[06:32] <plabridge> O imma smoke some marijuana and go watch seinfeld
[06:32] <Toma-> peptobismal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:32] <peptobismal> thankyou
[06:32] <Toma-> peptobismal: id recommend using a guide...
[06:33] <zero88> jskulski do you see the computer monitors in the top right? are they blinking at all?
[06:33] <TaJMoX> shinichizio they dont offer an official debian package - you'll have to install from the tar file or find a debian package from somewhere on the interweb
[06:33] <jskulski> zero88:  nothing on my bar
[06:33] <zxul767> GauntletWizard, you can type in the terminal update-manager -d
[06:33] <zxul767> that should show you any possible upgrades
[06:34] <robert_> zero88: http://rafb.net/p/EoVmLI36.html <-- this is what I get
[06:34] <fiction> Hi. how do login from a cli
[06:34] <valehru_> Is there a reason why my ssh server is very slow to log into?  Its on the same lan.  It takes about 5-10 seconds to get a password confirmation prompt.
[06:34] <fiction> aka, not start x automatically
[06:34] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: D: Bawh. Well. I don't think they'll have a debian package anywhere, but thanks for the help. So it's not ALWAYS possible to add something via apt-get then.
[06:35] <zero88> jskulski oh. go to system>admin>networking
[06:35] <bullgard4> TaJMoX: I think you misunderstood. I cannot change the time format displayed using the method you suggested.
[06:35] <TaJMoX> shinichizio gearhead is in the ubuntu repositories - is that different than gearhead arena ?
[06:35] <zero88> jskulski under network settings.click on the dns tab
[06:36] <zero88> robert_ ya im sorry.im not really familiar with dhclient
[06:36] <amicrawler> were is my trash can ?
[06:36] <fiery_cleric> nice
[06:36] <robert_> is there any way i can figure out what's going fubar with my network on that box?
[06:36] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: Maybe. o_o; How do I apt-get that?
[06:36] <TaJMoX> shinichizio - apt uses dkpg which is deb.  tar.gz is just a generic pre-compiled binary or source for any linux distrobution
[06:37] <zero88> robert_ probably google or if anyone in here can help
[06:37] <TaJMoX> shinichizio sudo apt-get install gearhead
[06:37] <jskulski> zero88: nothing in dns. dhclient wlan0 gives no DHCPOFFERS. in the rt61 faq, it says to use iwpriv but that doesn't seem to want to work either
[06:37] <TaJMoX> shinichizio : did you enable all the ubuntu repositories in synaptic?
[06:37] <kneeki> Anyone know how I can go about getting the error: '.: 106: Can't open /etc/profile' to go away? It occurs when I login
[06:37] <zero88> jskulski is you wireless on eth1 eth0 or what?
[06:37] <jskulski> wlan0
[06:38] <shinichizio> TaJMoX: I have no idea. How do I do that? And can I check to see what this 'gearhead' is before I download it?