[02:26] <Belial`> is the updater supposed to have an indicator applet? it only pops up for me in the dock when there's an update available.
[05:00] <fretegi> howdy
[05:00] <fretegi> can someone help me out with an equal to the software center within mate 18.04
[05:00] <fretegi> ?
[05:01] <diogenes_> fretegi, synaptic
[05:02] <fretegi> diogenes_, thanks https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[05:02] <fretegi> in that wiki there is part where it mentions how the software center will automatically pick up on dependencies and correct them.  synaptic the same?
[05:03] <diogenes_> fretegi, sure, synaptic is the best
[05:05] <fretegi> well... how do i get it find the deps ha
[05:05] <fretegi> so i downloaded 2 .deb's and ran them
[05:05] <fretegi> missing deps
[05:06] <diogenes_> you just select a package to install and it will do the rest
[05:06] <fretegi> what if not in a repo?
[05:06] <fretegi> you just have the .deb
[05:06] <diogenes_> then tuse gdebi
[05:07] <diogenes_> right click on .deb open with gdebi
[05:08] <fretegi> diogenes_, ok gives an error 'dependency is not satisfiable: libboost-regex1.62.0
[05:08] <diogenes_> gdebi shows that?
[05:08] <fretegi> yup
[05:09] <diogenes_> then your .deb is not compatible with current os version
[05:09] <diogenes_> so don't install
[05:11] <fretegi> hmmm.  well from a wiki for that software.  i had this same software installed on ubuntu 16.04.  although pretty sure i had to install it manually
[05:12] <diogenes_> and what is the output of: lsb_release -a
[05:13] <fretegi> 18.04
[05:13] <fretegi> .1
[05:13] <diogenes_> so the .deb is for 16.04 and not for 18.04
[05:14] <fretegi> interesting.  well the guide suggests differently ha
[05:15] <fretegi> well thats a bummer
[05:18] <fretegi> alright well thanks for the help
[05:18] <diogenes_> yw
[06:15] <swift110> hey all


[05:34] <cpaelzer> good morning
[07:35] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:57] <cpaelzer> rbasak: If you'd have a few minutes for an easy review https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/ubuntu/+source/sanlock/+git/sanlock/+merge/336757
[08:58] <cpaelzer> rbasak: this is blocking libvirt builds, so resolving asap would be nice
[08:58] <cpaelzer> (for now I uploaded a ~ppa version to unblock me there)
[11:33] <cpaelzer> jamespage: coreycb: did you see my mail about libvirt storage backends on Friday?
[11:34] <cpaelzer> it would be great to do the first upload the way you need it instead of shuffling things around afterwards
[11:34] <cpaelzer> so if you'd have a minute please give it a read
[11:48] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: hi, 'morning. I added a comment to https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-fan/+git/ubuntu-fan/+merge/335746, pinging you here in case you miss the email
[11:48] <ahasenack> it's an old MP for which we were just waiting in the bionic merge, which finally happened
[11:49]  * cpaelzer reading ...
[11:50] <cpaelzer> yes I agree ahasenack
[11:51] <cpaelzer> oh this was one of the cases with being the upstream in ubuntu failing to fetch the tarball
[11:51] <ahasenack> git-ubuntu?
[11:53] <cpaelzer> yep
[11:53] <cpaelzer> I can get around it
[11:53] <ahasenack> thx
[11:53] <cpaelzer> but do you remember if we had a bug for it?
[11:53] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1737640
[11:53] <cpaelzer> or 1741472
[11:54] <ahasenack> ah, you mean git-ubuntu
[11:54] <cpaelzer> yep
[11:54] <ahasenack> did you get that TypeError backtrace?
[11:55] <cpaelzer> no it is different now
[11:55] <cpaelzer> I update the bug already
[11:55] <ahasenack> ok
[11:57] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: bug updated, tag uploaded, package in unapproved queue
[11:57] <ahasenack> thanks, I'll watch over it now
[11:58] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I wasn't able to catch rbasak yet, if you'D have time (trivial MP) for https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/ubuntu/+source/sanlock/+git/sanlock/+merge/336757 that would be great as I need it to unblock some other things
[11:58] <ahasenack> sure
[12:41] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: thanks for taking a look at sanlock
[12:42] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I replied on the MP, but TL;DR yes this is how upstream does it
[12:42] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I didn't want to rewrite what they do, just fix the packaging around how it is atm
[12:42] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: do you think I should drop that fix from the upload instead?
[12:42] <cpaelzer> the one that is blocking me is the less discussion worth ordering in postinst
[12:48] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: I found another bug, but unrelated to your fix
[12:48] <ahasenack> it just uncovered it
[12:48] <ahasenack> Jan 29 12:48:02 useful-dassie systemd-wdmd[5472]: /lib/systemd/systemd-wdmd: line 51: failure: command not found
[12:49] <ahasenack> that "failure" shell func might be defined in redhat only
[12:49] <ahasenack> I suppose the "success" one too
[12:50] <cpaelzer> hehe
[12:50] <cpaelzer> can of worms :-/
[12:50] <ahasenack> I'll file a bug for it
[12:51] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: the sanlock init also has these
[12:51] <cpaelzer> but that is no more called these days
[12:52] <ahasenack> yeah, my other comment was going to be to drop the sysv script
[12:52] <ahasenack> but since it's used in the systemd hack
[12:52] <ahasenack> I guess we have to keep it one way or the other
[12:52] <cpaelzer> it sources /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions - maybe that is where it expects it from
[12:53] <cpaelzer> yep that is where my fedora has it
[12:53] <cpaelzer> part of initscripts-9.79-1.fc27.x86_64
[12:53] <ahasenack> it also sources /etc/sysconfig/<stuff>
[12:53] <ahasenack> very fedora-like
[12:54] <cpaelzer> yes :-/
[12:54] <cpaelzer> for now I at least want to get it as-working-as-before
[12:54] <cpaelzer> ignoring all the extra clutter (for now)
[12:54] <ahasenack> I filed a bug about that and gave a =1
[12:54] <ahasenack> er
[12:54] <ahasenack> +1
[12:55] <coreycb> cpaelzer: yes i did see your email. james and i need to sync up on that and get back to you.
[12:56] <cpaelzer> coreycb: ok, but please do realize that you wait on me and I wait on you :-)
[12:56] <cpaelzer> coreycb: so help yourself by providing that answer fast :-)
[12:56] <cpaelzer> thanks ahasenack
[12:57] <cpaelzer> fyi ahasenack - https://askubuntu.com/questions/531189/ubuntu-equivalent-of-centos-success-failure
[12:57] <cpaelzer> but it is not directly reusable
[14:33] <rh10> hey. guys, it there any good tutorial how can i build .deb package from sources?
[14:37] <mason> rh10: Fresh .deb packaging or rebuilding a .deb from a source package?
[14:37] <rh10> mason, fresh package
[14:37] <mason> rh10: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian
[14:37] <rh10> mason, thanks!
[14:38] <mason> Should all apply to Ubuntu too.
[14:38] <rh10> got it
[15:33] <ahasenack> lamont: hey, around?
[17:07] <jdstrand> Odd_Bloke: hey, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/1746012 today and wanted to make sure it showed up on someone's radar (I see that Foundations is subscribed to rsyslog)
[17:08] <jdstrand> Odd_Bloke: I could do the upload myself, but wanted to at least check with someone
[17:09] <sdeziel> oh yeah, that one's annoying
[18:36] <mgariepy> ping cpaelzer
[18:36] <mgariepy> do you have a minute to talk about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1583009
[18:37] <sarnold> it may be past cpaelzer's end-of-day
[18:37] <mgariepy> ha :( i'll try to catch him tomorrow then
[18:38] <mgariepy> thank sarnold
[18:38] <sarnold> hang around a little bit, you never know..
[18:38] <sarnold> but still, don't feel bad if you don't get a reply for another ten or twelve hours :)
[18:38] <mgariepy> yeah i know IRC :)
[18:39] <sarnold> okay :)
[18:41] <cpaelzer> mgariepy: it is past my EOD
[18:41] <cpaelzer> I'm just running by a few times, but might be dragged away again any minute
[18:43] <cpaelzer> mgariepy: I updated the bug in reply to your question 6 minutes ago
[18:57] <mgariepy> cpaelzer, ok perfect.
[22:22] <Epx998> Mmm ubuntu arm64, a new challenge
[22:23] <sdeziel> s/rm/md/; done
[22:24] <sdeziel> :D
[22:26] <Epx998> we are testing with some new qualcomm servers, the firmware they shipped is us pretty bad


[05:41] <Mirv> RAOF: lpotter is wondering whether the mir code for inputconfig queries would work under Unity 7 or needs active Mir session?
[05:44] <lpotter> or specifically, does that get compiled with CONFIG+=mirclient ?
[05:47] <lpotter> looks like it should run only on mir. so would need different builds for unity7 and unity8
[05:50] <duflu> lpotter: Everything Mir needs a Mir server (MirConnection). Although you could skip that and defer to libinput which we now use for everything
[05:51] <duflu> Oh, no you can't under Unity7. You'd end up with duplicate and sync issues with the X input
[05:51] <duflu> As we have done before
[05:59] <duflu> lpotter, Mirv: Put another way: No there are no significant public bits of Mir that work without being connected to a Mir server
[06:06] <Mirv> right, that's what I was guessing
[06:17] <lpotter> hmm. it was contains(QT_CONFIG,mirclient)
[06:26] <duflu> I'm guessing that refers to mirclient.pc
[06:27] <duflu> lpotter: what is "it"?
[06:27] <duflu> Unity7?
[06:27]  * duflu looks
[06:27] <Mirv> lpotter: on yakkety Unity 8 desktop I'm btw still getting '0' with ./inputinfo but 1 keyboard (no touchpad or touchscreen) when running the qml-inputinfo.qml
[06:28] <Mirv> "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard QVariant(::QInputDevice::InputTypeFlags) 2", "number of mouse and keyboard devices: 1", "row count 1", "Button, Keyboard,"
[06:30] <Mirv> duflu: oh btw my Chromebook is now almost completely usable, with 4.8rc1 kernel. booting from internal ssd works, touch works, keyboard works.. only the sound doesn't work which I'm workarounding with a bluetooth headset
[06:30] <duflu> Mirv: Well digital output has better sound anyway
[06:31] <duflu> Mirv: Don't you get the prompt at start-up?
[06:31] <duflu> Or did you change the default in firmware?
[06:32] <Mirv> duflu: oh yes I do get that since I haven't unlocked r/w, it's just RW_LEGACY flashed still. so that's another minus.
[06:32] <duflu> Mirv: Ok, be careful... If you forget Ctrl+L then the firmware will clobber Ubuntu and render it unbootable
[06:32] <Mirv> lpotter: and since now I'm able to reproduce the cli version's crash on desktop, it's easier to get a backtrace too: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23110601/ -  0x00007ffff6f55be4 in mir_connection_create_input_config () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmirclient.so.9
[06:33] <Mirv> duflu: I know, then I'll reinstall
[06:33] <duflu> Ha. Living dangerously
[06:33] <duflu> ^^^ mir_connection_* means a valid MirConnection is required :)
[06:34] <Mirv> duflu: this is from running in terminal app on unity8 session
[06:34] <Mirv> maybe the connection is not initialized correctly by QInputInfoManagerMir
[06:35] <duflu> Mirv: Try the 'mirin' tool which should do the same thing
[06:35] <duflu> Mirv: Or for Unity8:   mirin -- --desktop_file_hint=unity8
[06:40] <Mirv> duflu: ok! I'm getting 6 devices on my chromebook and 3 on my krillin. that's good to know.
[07:59] <duflu> alf_: Launchpad is complaining that USC has no releases made in the 0.7 series (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-system-compositor). But also the ones that were made recently are not marked as released yet
[08:03] <duflu> alf_: But to be fair that still makes it a better managed project than many others
[08:04] <alf_> duflu: Well, I just added a release, but LP still complains that 0.7.1 is older than the package 0.7.1+...
[08:04] <duflu> alf_: That complaint is normal. Always happens
[08:05] <duflu> I think it's backwards
[08:07] <duflu> alf_: Still some old "unreleased": https://launchpad.net/unity-system-compositor/+series
[09:30] <lpotter> Mirv: patch set 3 is working
[09:34] <Mirv> lpotter: great! I'll update the PPA again.
[14:31] <dandrader> anpok, was trying out ~andreas-pokorny/mir/nested-hardware-cursor yesterday (will continue today)
[14:31] <dandrader> anpok, commented out all code in qtmir related to hiding the mir cursor. but still couldn't see the mir cursor. anything I should check? or any tips?
[14:32] <dandrader> funny that in the past I had trouble hiding it. now it's the other way around :)
[14:32] <dandrader> anpok, that's on my test laptop, btw
[14:45] <anpok> dandrader: hm
[14:46] <anpok> can you show me what you have right now?
[14:53] <dandrader> anpok, lp:~dandrader/qtmir/controlMirCursor
[14:53] <dandrader> anpok, it's mixed with code updating qtmir to mir's latest API
[15:05] <TheKit> so EGL_BAD_DISPLAY happens right after eglCreateContext(egl_display, egl_config, EGL_NO_CONTEXT, default_egl_context_attr) call on my device
[15:06] <dandrader> anpok, isn't usc configured to not show a cursor on desktop or something like that?
[15:09] <anpok> yes it is .. but thats fine since the nested server shows the cursor image with an overlayed buffer stream
[15:09] <anpok> TheKit: so try a different egl_config ...
[15:11] <dandrader> anpok, I did call the_cursor()->show() in qtmir. Are you saying I should call the show() that takes an image as a parameter?
[15:12] <anpok> dandrader: in other words the branch - when working as expected - also does everything to disable the usc-cursor
[15:12] <anpok> hmm
[15:12] <anpok> if you dont there would be a default arrow it would use
[15:13] <dandrader> anpok, you mean ~andreas-pokorny/mir/nested-hardware-cursor?
[15:17] <anpok> dandrader|afk: you need to enable the host cursor control mode..
[15:38] <dandrader> anpok, ok, didn't do that yet
[16:04] <dandrader> anpok, still nothing
[17:44] <anpok> dandrader|afk: wasnt there also  code in qtmir that sets a 0x0 sized CursorImage(s)
[18:02] <dandrader> anpok, I also had that commented out