[04:43] <thoreauputic> veristead: you don't need to compile kde - it's available in the universe repository
[04:43] <lunitik> Not even in Debian Experimental afaict
[04:43] <saphari_> nothing
[04:43] <Jmax1632> farruinn: i added resume=/dev/hda1 ro to the grub and did sudo update-grub , and now i'm borked
[04:43] <Jmax1632> please help
[04:44] <kimcascone> also make sure you have selected files to play in the play files menu
[04:44] <saphari_> why is one of the letters highlighted on it?
[04:44] <veristead> ooo... iTunes should be ported to Linux if it ain't already
[04:45] <kimcascone> on what?
[04:45] <kimcascone> the playlist?
[04:45] <saphari_> the d
[04:45] <veristead> if only apple cared about Linux
[04:45] <kimcascone> that makes the app UI larger
[04:45] <Jmax1632> farruinn: PLEASE HELP!!!
[04:45] <kimcascone> for xmms
[04:46] <saphari_> ok
[04:46] <kimcascone> that doesn't matter for now
[04:46] <saphari_> ok
[04:46] <farruinn> Jmax1632: please don't yell at me, I know virtually nothing about GRUB so I don't think my help would be very usefull
[04:46] <lunitik> veristead: never gonna happen... Darwin tries to compete
[04:46] <kimcascone> so is there a cd in the drive?
[04:46] <saphari_> yes
[04:46] <Jmax1632> does anyone?
[04:46] <veristead> stupid darwin
[04:46] <kimcascone> do you have a playlist?
[04:46] <cr4z3d> hmm.. i have a question. i downloaded the warty release for x86 off the site with bit torrent. i then inserted the burned cd into my laptop before boot hit enter when teh screen came up and it seemed to freeze at the APCI spot and never went anywhere do i just have to wait awhile or is something wrong?
[04:46] <veristead> it's called evolution
[04:47] <veristead> dnt fight it
[04:47] <saphari_> no
[04:47] <thoreauputic> kimcascone, saphari_ try opening the /media/cdrom directory
[04:47] <saphari_> it is all new
[04:47] <kimcascone> make a playlist
[04:47] <veristead> maybe someone could write a replica of it
[04:47] <veristead> that  basically is the same thing
[04:47] <lunitik> veristead: no... its called "I want to be in control, so, nana'
[04:47] <farruinn> veristead: there is an itunesish app installed by default
[04:47] <farruinn> veristead: some people have been able to make it use their iTunes music folder, but I haven't had any luck with that
[04:47] <veristead> and allows for music sharing that will support iTunes music sharing
[04:47] <cr4z3d> hmm can anyone help me?
[04:47] <lil_anthony> curious from the cd and being at a shell how do you mount hda so you can read its contents?
[04:48] <veristead> and recognizes the iPod
[04:48] <Brunellus> j
[04:48] <Brunellus> hmmmm
[04:48] <jesuel> uhg
[04:48] <Brunellus> it would seem that the gweather applet non-function is not uncommon.
[04:48] <kimcascone> also open your drives and media prefs
[04:48] <durin42> veristead: iTunes is borked in WINE, isn't it?
[04:48] <jesuel> downloading the update for WoW is sllllllllow :(
[04:48] <lunitik> durin42: I've seen it working actually.
[04:48] <saphari_> how
[04:49] <kimcascone> in thne desktop prefs/removable storage
[04:49] <durin42> lunitik: any links?
[04:49] <kimcascone> the main menu bar
[04:49] <farruinn> durin42: using the windows version of iTunes in WINE?
[04:49] <kimcascone> computer/desktop prefs/removable storage
[04:49] <durin42> farruinn: that was my thought
[04:50] <lunitik> durin42: to what exactly?
[04:50] <kimcascone> make sure play audio when CD inserted is checked
[04:50] <farruinn> durin42: hadn't thought of that, I'm going to try to use it with mac-on-linux
[04:50] <kimcascone> also there is a command in the command text field
[04:50] <durin42> farruinn: ahh...I was thinking for i386 people
[04:51] <saphari_> yeah
[04:51] <kimcascone> its checked?
[04:51] <saphari_> yes
[04:51] <farruinn> lunitik: new Rhythmbox? as in hoary's?
[04:51] <durin42> lunitik: can it read/make iTunes shares?
[04:51] <thoreauputic> farruinn: works in mac-on-linux
[04:51] <lunitik> farruinn: yes
[04:51] <farruinn> thoreauputic: cool
[04:51] <lunitik> durin42: no idea
[04:51] <farruinn> lunitik: cool =)
[04:52] <thoreauputic> farruinn: so does windows media player :)
[04:52] <durin42> lunitik: any idea where you found that iTunes/WINE thing?
[04:52] <kimcascone> ok
[04:52] <veristead> i would love it if i could listen to iTunes shared music with another Ubuntu app
[04:52] <kimcascone> close that window
[04:52] <lunitik> durin42: umm... a computer at school?
[04:52] <kimcascone> go to multimedia under applci8ations
[04:52] <kimcascone> and seeclt volume control
[04:53] <durin42> lunitik: um....I was thinking more in terms of a site that you might remember or something
[04:53] <kimcascone> make sure your not muted on any channel
[04:53] <lunitik> durin42: no... was just installed  :/
[04:53] <kimcascone> and your volume controls are up
[04:53] <veristead> i have a ghetto iBook
[04:53] <veristead> lol
[04:53] <lunitik> durin42: worked out of the box, so to speak
[04:53] <veristead> i have to tape the CD drive closed
[04:54] <durin42> lunitik: ah...perhaps I should try playing with it on my box here.
[04:54] <veristead> which actually is nice
[04:54] <farruinn> veristead: G3 or G4?
[04:54] <veristead> cuz sometimes i pop it open when i am typing
[04:54] <veristead> g3
[04:54] <veristead> 500
[04:54] <kimcascone> you should have an OSS mixer and a Alsa mixedr
[04:54] <lunitik> durin42: probably... but yeah... was even on Ubuntu  :P
[04:54] <veristead> 10GB (er what it came with)
[04:54] <veristead> upgraded to 30
[04:54] <kimcascone> make sure both have volumes up
[04:54] <crazydeb8r> iTunes on ubuntu...
[04:54] <veristead> 10 ain't enough
[04:54] <crazydeb8r> I'd love to see that
[04:54] <veristead> me as well
[04:54] <durin42> has anyone here heard of a way to playback Apple Lossless files through gstreamer or anything similar yet?
[04:55] <veristead> and access to the iTunes music store would not suck
[04:55] <crazydeb8r> durin42: not through gstreamer
[04:55] <lavigj> hey guys, earlier, someone was mentioning nvidia acceleration... does anyone happen to have that link kicking around still? I thought mine was going but I am starting to think I am wrong
[04:55] <veristead> however first
[04:55] <Brunellus> ok, I can't work this out.  I don't know what I did to break my weather applet
[04:55] <veristead> i hope Hoary has support for Airport extreme
[04:55] <Brunellus> but it's broken
[04:55] <veristead> cuz that would be nice
[04:55] <Brunellus> all I did was click "update" a few times!
[04:55] <Brunellus> ugh.
[04:56] <veristead> and if so they should make a driver for Ubuntu
[04:56] <thoreauputic> lavigj: hmm... binary drivers howto on ubuntulinux.org I think
[04:56] <farruinn> lavigj: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:56] <lunitik> veristead: Apple hates anything 'not made here'
[04:56] <Mazus> Can somone help me :( ??
[04:56] <lavigj> farruinn: thanks. is there a quick and easy way to see if it is working?
[04:56] <farruinn> veristead: sorry, no airport extreme for any distro of linux afaik
[04:57] <thoreauputic> Mazus: just ask, don't ask to ask
[04:57] <Mazus> :)
[04:57] <farruinn> lavigj: I'm pretty sure you get an nvidia splash screen when it's working
[04:57] <saphari_> when i click play on xmms,  this play files come up
[04:57] <lavigj> farruinn: ok, it very well may not be then
[04:57] <blah09> hey anyone here on fluxbox?
[04:57] <lavigj> thanks
[04:57] <Mazus> i can connect to my network under ubuntu like i can ping my other computers i just cant get onto the net
[04:57] <inc_> sup room
[04:57] <kimcascone> you need to add all the files on the cd to the play menu
[04:57] <Mazus> and ideas?
[04:57] <saphari_> how do i put the cd-rom on that play files
[04:57] <thoreauputic> blah09: not this minute, but often yes
[04:57] <inc_> anyone know of a embedded version of ubuntu
[04:57] <saphari_> how?
[04:58] <blah09> ah
[04:58] <thoreauputic> blah09: what's your question?
[04:58] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: where do i need to put those codecs again?
[04:58] <veristead> yay
[04:58] <veristead> it is booting
[04:58] <blah09> thoreauputic, is there a runbox like in gnome?
[04:58] <Mazus> :(
[04:58] <veristead> i am so happy
[04:58] <blah09> like when you hit alt-f2
[04:58] <thoreauputic> blah09:  yes, fbrun
[04:58] <kimcascone> hold I'm checking something
[04:58] <Brunellus> Ok.  I'm going to reboot and see if it does anything
[04:58] <blah09> hm, is there a hotkey for it?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> blah09: but which version of flux are you running?
[04:58] <Mazus> any got any ideas why i cant conenct to the net?
[04:59] <Mazus> pm me
[04:59] <Mazus> :)
[04:59] <blah09> the one on the ubuntu repositories
[04:59] <thoreauputic> blah09: define your hotkeys in ~/,fluxbox/keys
[04:59] <kimcascone> q: where would xmms be installed?
[04:59] <kimcascone> anbyone?
[04:59] <blah09> ahh thanks
[04:59] <thoreauputic> /usr/bin/xmms
[04:59] <blah09> 0.9.9-1
[04:59] <kimcascone> danke!
[04:59] <thoreauputic> blah09: k - that's fairly recent
[05:00] <inc_> any embedded version of ubuntu?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> blah09: lots of info on http://fluxbox.org
[05:00] <lavigj> hmmm... that might be bad.. /proc/pci: no such file or directory
[05:00] <blah09> thats not the sourceforge page is it?
[05:00] <Mazus> Does anyone why i can ping my other computers and like i just cant connect to the net
[05:00] <thoreauputic> blah09: no
[05:01] <lavigj> Mazus: try ping -n <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:01] <Mazus> :o
[05:01] <kimcascone> ok I got xmms to come up when a CD is inserted
[05:01] <Mazus> yeah liek i can see the router and stuff i just cant conenct onto the net
[05:01] <saphari_> ok
[05:01] <blah09> ok ill check it out, thanks
[05:01] <Mazus> ill try that
[05:01] <Mazus> brb
[05:01] <thoreauputic> kimcascone: what did you do?
[05:02] <membreya> lo thoreauputic :)
[05:02] <kimcascone> saphari_: open the removable storge box again
[05:02] <thoreauputic> membreya: hi :)
[05:02] <kimcascone> under desktop prefs
[05:02] <kimcascone> where it says command
[05:02] <kimcascone> clik on browse
[05:02] <kimcascone> go to /usr/bin/xmms
[05:02] <kimcascone> and hot open
[05:02] <kimcascone> hit
[05:03] <veristead> updating stuff via the web
[05:03] <kimcascone> it should now saw /usr/bin/xmms in the command window
[05:03] <veristead> is xchat included by default?
[05:03] <farruinn> veristead: yes
[05:03] <veristead> cool
[05:03] <kimcascone> click close and now when you insert a cd the xmms player will come up in stead of the Gnome player
[05:03] <saphari_> ok slow down
[05:03] <lavigj> farruinn: cool, I appear to have been lacking the acceleration I had
[05:03] <lavigj> er, thought I had
[05:03] <kimcascone> sorry
[05:04] <veristead> how about flocinaucinihilipication X
[05:04] <muehlbucks> hi all, i did a dist-upgrade to hoary this afternoon, a few icons don't display properly on my desktop (trash, home, etc); however, i created a new user and the icons all display properly. any suggestions?
[05:04] <veristead> ?
[05:04] <Mazue> lol
[05:04] <veristead> is that included?
[05:04] <membreya> muehlbucks: have you checked nautilus settings?
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> err:shell:SHGetFolderPathW Failed to create directory 'L"C:\\windows\\profiles\\bluefox\\Desktop"'.
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> wine seems horribly busted.
[05:04] <muehlbucks> membreya: i shall, i'm new to gnome :-)
[05:05] <membreya> ok, go to applications > system tools > configuration editor.... then go to apps/nautilus/desktop
[05:05] <veristead> ok heading to bed now
[05:05] <muehlbucks> membreya: thanks
[05:05] <veristead> it will finish over night i assume
[05:06] <membreya> let me know if it works, then thank me :P
[05:06] <veristead> hey good news
[05:06] <thoreauputic> kimcascone: ah, yes - pops up but doesn't auto-play I think...
[05:06] <muehlbucks> membreya: hehe, i'm actually not sure how to proceed... the icons fail to appear on the panels and in menus
[05:06] <veristead> i jst ported iTunes over to Ubuntu
[05:07] <muehlbucks> membreya: i'm diggin in conf editor now
[05:07] <veristead> OMG IT IS AMAZING
[05:07] <Yomic> Can Gaim use Yahoo IM Japan?
[05:07] <veristead> iTUNES ON UBUNTU
[05:07] <membreya> muehlbucks: have you tried a reboot? :)
[05:07] <veristead> AMAZING
[05:07] <farruinn> veristead: hahah, go to bed ;)
[05:07] <muehlbucks> membreya: yes
[05:07] <veristead> srry it's the drugs
[05:07] <crazydeb8r> how do I open a smb share?
[05:07] <crazydeb8r> When i try it gives me a security messag
[05:07] <kimcascone> how do I run NTP support?
[05:08] <veristead> though if i had i probably would be getting laid tonite
[05:08] <kimcascone> for setting time via network
[05:08] <saphari_> desktop pref where does it say command?
[05:08] <farruinn> if I wanted to use mutt should I use fetchmail?
[05:08] <membreya> kimcascone: have you got ntp installed? :P
[05:08] <lunitik> kimcascone: already enabled... if you're getting messages saying 'no ntp' blah... install ntp-server or stop trying to do that.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> kimcascone: haven't worked that one out yet - i just run sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart once in a while
[05:09] <muehlbucks> membreya: is there an easy way i can restore my gnome settings to the default or skeleton settings?
[05:09] <lunitik> kimcascone: 'ntp' is installed, which is the client.. pointing at ntp.ubuntulinux.org ... time settings require less crack, but also ntp-server
[05:09] <kimcascone> in the synaptic manager?
[05:09] <membreya> thoreauputic: why don't you just let the clock in gnome control it ? :P
[05:09] <crazydeb8r> how can i get a smb share to open?
[05:09] <lunitik> crazydeb8r: kick it?
[05:09] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: haha. i wish. I get a security message when I try to
[05:09] <membreya> crazydeb8r: perhaps if you elaborate..exactly what are you trying
[05:09] <cr4z3d> hello i have a question about editing the file that checks everything at the begining.. i dont' have a floppy drive but for some reason it checks for one and hangs there
[05:10] <thoreauputic> membreya: oh? how is that done?
[05:10] <lunitik> crazydeb8r: heh... in firefox/nautilus etc... 'smb:///computername/
[05:10] <kimcascone> it installed so how do I run it? via command line?
[05:10] <membreya> thoreauputic: right click on your clock, go to adjust date & time and the select the option to periodically update from ntp server
[05:10] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: thx
[05:11] <lunitik> crazydeb8r: gnome-vfs smb support is kinda bad though  :/
[05:11] <Yomic> Can Gaim use Yahoo IM Japan?
[05:11] <billytwowilly> Yomic, it can use yahoo..
[05:11] <Yomic> I know.
[05:11] <billytwowilly> Yomic, is yahoo IM Japan different than normal Yahoo?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> membreya: tried that but it says it needs to be set up
[05:11] <Yomic> YIM != YIMJ
[05:11] <lunitik> Yomic: try it... just choose yahoo... and enter your username for Yahoo IM Japan.
[05:11] <membreya> install ntp-server then
[05:11] <billytwowilly> If Yahoo japan users can talk to Yahoo users then it should almost certainly be able to.
[05:11] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: I noticed. I tried just going through the network option in ubuntu, but it won't open it because it "could be a security riisk"
[05:11] <thoreauputic> membreya: without saying how, of course... hehe
[05:12] <lunitik> crazydeb8r: blah... haha... yeah... SMB support in gnome-vfs needs to not suck one day.
[05:12] <thoreauputic> membreya: if I install ntp-server it just does it?
[05:12] <Yomic> Billy: Yes, they are different clients on different [servers?] .
[05:12] <lunitik> thoreauputic: yes
[05:12] <muehlbucks> how might i restore the default gnome settings? rm .gnome?
[05:12] <kimcascone> got it
[05:12] <membreya> once you install ntp-server you will need to tick the box :P
[05:12] <thoreauputic> lunitik: ah, OK - installing now!
[05:12] <saphari_> ok i am confused
[05:13] <thoreauputic> membreya: very amusing ;)
[05:13] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: it says to rename it to open it...what would i rename it to?
[05:13] <kimcascone> saphari_: hold on a sec
[05:13] <membreya> thoreauputic: is ntpd running on your computer?
[05:13] <muehlbucks> doh... it was just the theme i was using :-(
[05:13] <saphari_> l
[05:13] <lunitik> crazydeb8r: if it has spaces etc, take those out... what is an example file name?
[05:14] <crazydeb8r> imdladris
[05:14] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: imladris - that's it
[05:14] <lunitik> crazydeb8r: no extension?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> membreya: it is now ;-)
[05:15] <membreya> thoreauputic: well tick the little box my friend and awaaaay you go :)
[05:15] <thoreauputic> membreya: and the box ticked itself automagically
[05:15] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[05:15] <membreya> happy now thoreauputic ? :P
[05:16] <thoreauputic> ecstatic
[05:16] <membreya> mwuahahah ph33r my 2 1/2 weeks of l33tn3$$ with ubuntu :P
[05:16] <thoreauputic> thrilled beyond words
[05:16] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: nope.
[05:16] <delltony> is there a way to roll back to a another kernal image if one doesn't work?
[05:16] <membreya> delltony: grub? :)
[05:16] <delltony> yeah :(
[05:16] <membreya> unless you deleted it the image will still be there :)
[05:17] <delltony> well ig uess it got deleted
[05:17] <delltony> cause i only have 686 in there
[05:17] <membreya> ;)
[05:17] <membreya> delltony
[05:17] <membreya> apt-get the image :)
[05:17] <lunitik> delltony: hit 'esc' when it asks during boot... and choose another?
[05:17] <delltony> i have choosed them all they don't work
[05:17] <membreya> delltony how is that possible? :|
[05:18] <kimcascone> ok I'm back
[05:18] <delltony> how is what possible?
[05:18] <saphari_> wb
[05:18] <delltony> i was speaking to lunitik sorry
[05:18] <membreya> delltony: how is it possible for NO images to work ?
[05:18] <delltony> he was talking about hte grub menu select different ones
[05:18] <delltony> they don't work
[05:18] <membreya> hmmm anyone know any good games for ubuntu? :)
[05:18] <delltony> they are all 686
[05:18] <kimcascone> how is xmms coming
[05:18] <membreya> delltony: what CPU are you running?
[05:19] <saphari_> lol
[05:19] <thoreauputic> membreya: yeah, "bait the newb"
[05:19] <delltony> p4 3.2ghz
[05:19] <Mazus> Can anyone help me with Dns?
[05:19] <membreya> thoreauputic: you're being mean :P
[05:19] <saphari_> i am still stuck at the command line
[05:19] <LinuxJones> membreya, frozen-bubble & chromium are very good time killers :)
[05:19] <kimcascone> sorry I had to do something with the nt server
[05:19] <thoreauputic> membreya: mwuhahaha
[05:19] <kimcascone> ok forget the command line
[05:19] <lunitik> Mazus: what do you need?
[05:19] <delltony> so how do you get this thing to go to the command line so you can do things i have the install cd and a warty live cd (i'm on hoary)
[05:19] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: i apologized for that, and i'll never msg someone again ;-)
[05:19] <compmanio36> mmm.......time to burn the hoary ISO :D
[05:20] <delltony> what do i need to do so i can mount and hopefully use aptget and so forth
[05:20] <kimcascone> did you set xmms as your default player?
[05:20] <statico> how does one go about turning on video mirroring with an external display with Xorg ?
[05:20] <lunitik> crazydeb8r: you're not the only one... I get one about every 10 mins... its annoying
[05:20] <Mazus> i can connect to sites like <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:20] <membreya> delltony..oh so you don't have a running system at all :( that's gotta hurt
[05:20] <BrianAnthony> www.project-xyphox.com can anyone load that website?
[05:20] <delltony> membreya: bingo :p
[05:20] <Mazus> i cant go and type www.google.com
[05:20] <BrianAnthony> er ping, even
[05:20] <Mazus> it just doesnt worj]
[05:20] <Mazus> *work
[05:20] <saphari_> i don't know how, i am vvery new to this and the window goes very fast
[05:20] <lunitik> Mazus: you're hosting your own DNS?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> lunitik: just develop a fearsome reputation and they'll stay away ;)
[05:20] <delltony> if i could figure out how to rollback to the old image that might work
[05:20] <Mazus> no
[05:21] <lunitik> Mazus: and /etc/resolv.conf is correct?
[05:21] <kimcascone> ok lets check the storage window
[05:21] <saphari_> i perfer pms
[05:21] <crazydeb8r> lunitik: I know, i've noticed.
[05:21] <crazydeb8r> anyone have any ideas on smb shares? How do you access them?
[05:21] <Mazus> ill check that lunitik
[05:21] <kimcascone> main menu/desktop prefs/removable storage
[05:21] <membreya> saphari_: :|
[05:21] <lunitik> Mazus: if not, ask your ISP what the DNS should be, or go to google and search for a root name server
[05:21] <membreya> crazydeb8r: are you trying to mount remove smb shares locally?
[05:21] <membreya> remove = remote
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[05:22] <crazydeb8r> membreya, yes.
[05:23] <membreya> crazydeb8r: go to a console
[05:23] <membreya> and type sudo apt-get install sambafs
[05:23] <membreya> let me know when you're done
[05:23] <inc_> BrianAnthony: that it?
[05:23] <saphari_> drives and media preferences
[05:23] <knoppix> hey guys
[05:23] <jjman> a
[05:24] <crazydeb8r> membreya, i will, jas
[05:24] <membreya> let me know when it's installed
[05:25] <inc_> anyone know of a way to get ubuntu to run embedded
[05:25] <kimcascone> yeah
[05:25] <kimcascone> is the play audio check box checked?
[05:25] <bbbman> ok, if i am in knoppix and i want to partiton my hard drive to install ubuntu
[05:25] <saphari_> yes
[05:25] <membreya> bbbman: #knoppix? :)
[05:25] <kimcascone> and type in /usr/bin/xmms into the command window
[05:25] <crazydeb8r> membreya, it couldn't find the package
[05:25] <bbbman> ok thanks ill got here
[05:26] <thoreauputic> bbbman: qtparted, methinks
[05:26] <bbbman> ill give it a try
[05:26] <saphari_> ok
[05:26] <delltony> is there a way to apt-get uninstall in hoary using a warty live bootcd?
[05:27] <kimcascone> this should make xmms come up when a new cd is inserted
[05:27] <crazydeb8r> membreya; is it smbfs?
[05:27] <membreya> crazydeb8r: was just about to say that..sorry mate :)
[05:27] <crazydeb8r> membreya: step ahead of you :-)
[05:27] <membreya> sorry watching TV at the same time and trying to avoid the heat
[05:28] <geppy> I've used Gallery from source, before, but I'm not sure how the gallery package in the repository configures itself.  Where can I find the docs?
[05:28] <delltony> i guess not :(
[05:29] <kimcascone> now make sure you have closed xmms and take out the cd
[05:30] <crazydeb8r> membreya: it seems my connection hates me - i can't resollve any of the repositories
[05:30] <saphari_> i browsed the cd and i can read it
[05:30] <membreya> crazydeb8r: can you resolve hostnames?
[05:31] <crazydeb8r> membreya: what do you mean?
[05:31] <saphari_> is .mov the songs?
[05:31] <kimcascone> good
[05:31] <membreya> ie can you ping www.ubuntu.org
[05:31] <kimcascone> no these are movies
[05:31] <crazydeb8r> yes
[05:31] <saphari_> can i move them to the direstory?
[05:32] <saphari_> where are the songs?
[05:32] <kimcascone> if this is an audio cd the files should be .cda files
[05:32] <geppy> Gallery, anyone?
[05:32] <kimcascone> you can't move them
[05:32] <kimcascone> they are burned onto the cde
[05:32] <kimcascone> cd
[05:32] <Maz> i can ping my local host and i can join sites like <IP_ADDRESS> (google) i just can join normal sites like www.google.com
[05:32] <Maz> Can anyone help me?
[05:32] <kimcascone> ] just play them from the cdplayer
[05:32] <kimcascone> xmms
[05:33] <membreya> Maz: do you have nameservers set?
[05:33] <crazydeb8r> membreya: yes, i can resolve hostnames, and I tried to dig the server and got nothing
[05:33] <Maz> membreya what do you mean?
[05:33] <membreya> what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:33] <membreya> max
[05:33] <membreya> maz
[05:33] <membreya> crazydeb8r: what ubuntu are you running?
[05:34] <Maz> all i have in that is
[05:34] <Maz> "Domain : ____"
[05:34] <crazydeb8r> membreya: uh, the stable one :-)
[05:34] <Maz> i line
[05:34] <Maz> *1 line
[05:34] <Maz> 2 words
[05:34] <saphari_> the damn dir came up again
[05:34] <membreya> maz you need to have "nameserver (ip)"
[05:35] <Maz> so "nameserver (myip)" ??
[05:35] <kimcascone> which dir?
[05:35] <membreya> maz: it needs to be your ISPs DNS server, unless you run a local one
[05:35] <Maz> hmm
[05:35] <saphari_> i think i figured it
[05:36] <Maz> ok ill google my isp see if it has one
[05:36] <Maz> THanks
[05:36] <crazydeb8r> membreya: even odder...the other computers behind my firewall are haviing no problems.
[05:36] <membreya> crazydeb8r: just try it :)
[05:36] <membreya> you might want to check their resolv.conf tho
[05:36] <membreya> lo monoxide
[05:37] <membreya> maz..what ISP ?
[05:37] <crazydeb8r> membreya, thanks
[05:37] <thoreauputic> membreya: BTW there are a whole bunch of ntp servers you can tick in the time applet thing
[05:37] <membreya> thoreauputic: no dher :P
[05:37] <Jmax1632> Any dev-level techs in here?
[05:38] <kim1> I'm still here
[05:38] <waseem> mm
[05:38] <thoreauputic> membreya: sorry?
[05:38] <Jmax1632> kim1: you?
[05:38] <Maz> ok membreya brb
[05:38] <Maz> i found a dns server
[05:38] <membreya> thoreauputic: meaning ....i know there is :)
[05:38] <membreya> maz: add it to your resolv.conf
[05:38] <kimcascone> xmms comes up when you load a cd audio?
[05:39] <thoreauputic> membreya: ah, OK... just thought I'd illuminate the obvious again...
[05:39] <membreya> thoreauputic: you have a penchant for that :)
[05:39] <Jmax1632> Any dev-level techs in here?
[05:39] <saphari_> yeah buit that other dir comes ip
[05:39] <saphari_> no it doesn't
[05:39] <kimcascone> which other dir
[05:39] <kimcascone> ?
[05:39] <Jmax1632> Any dev-level techs in here? please join #jmax!
[05:39] <Jmax1632> Any dev-level techs in here? please join #jmax !
[05:39] <Jmax1632> heh
[05:40] <saphari_> from rb
[05:40] <waseem> Hi I am using gaim. I seem to be having a problem direct connecting with people using aim. Did anyone here seem to find a solution for this?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> membreya: ah, but I do it with "un certain panache" ;-)
[05:40] <cr4z3d> anyone know how to stop ubuntu from checking the floppy disk on startup.. my laptop has no floppy and hangs when it checks for one
[05:40] <kimcascone> rb is still launching?
[05:40] <Jmax1632> Any dev-level techs in here? please join #jmax !
[05:40] <membreya> waseem: are you directly connected to the net or are you using a firewall/gateway?
[05:40] <kimcascone> did you chasnge the default in the CD storage?
[05:40] <waseem> membreya: i am connected to a router
[05:41] <membreya> thoreauputic: yes you have a certain jen ne se qua
[05:41] <waseem> there is a firewall, but i never had a problem direct connecting to people using aim on windows
[05:41] <membreya> waseem: you will need to try using IP forwarding
[05:41] <inc_> is there a hoary live cd iso?
[05:42] <thoreauputic> membreya: monsieur, c'est pas du Francais, ca...
[05:42] <BrianAnthony> what is a good program that can take pictures with a web camera?
[05:42] <Jmax1632> PLEASE
[05:42] <Jmax1632> OMG
[05:42] <TheMuso> inc_: Yes there is.
[05:43] <inc_> got a url?
[05:43] <saphari_> yeah thanks for your help
[05:43] <saphari_> i'm going to bed
[05:43] <Jmax1632> anyone?
[05:43] <Jmax1632> this is rather urgent
[05:43] <TheMuso> inc_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/array-5/
[05:43] <membreya> thoreauputic: say what now ..we can't translate that..something about sir ..not french
[05:44] <thoreauputic> membreya: never mind...
[05:44] <membreya> thoreauputic: tell me :(
[05:44] <Jmax1632> anyone?
[05:44] <Jmax1632> dead, eh?
[05:44] <SiRrUs> good evening people
[05:44] <thoreauputic> I just said what you wrote was not french
[05:44] <saphari_> night folks
[05:45] <membreya> Jmax1632: wouldn't you assume from the lack of responses that noone is a dev level tech
[05:45] <membreya> night saphari_
[05:45] <membreya> hi SiRrUs :)
[05:45] <saphari_> thanks kim
[05:45] <BrianAnthony> waseem: I would think that because it's not AIM it would naturaly have a problem
[05:45] <BrianAnthony> waseem: GAIM isn't AIM
[05:45] <SiRrUs> damm i got a hello :)
[05:45] <Jmax1632> membreya: then who can i contact one regarding an urgent matter?
[05:45] <veristead> omg these updates are taking forever
[05:45] <membreya> thoreauputic: jen ne se qua was french :P
[05:45] <veristead> it has been like an hour
[05:45] <inc_> TheMuso, thanks
[05:45] <membreya> Jmax1632: wait till daniels is here :P
[05:46] <veristead> no percentage
[05:46] <veristead> or progress bar
[05:46] <SiRrUs> Jmax1632 whats your urgent matter
[05:46] <thoreauputic> membreya: only just recognisable as such, I'm afraid :)
[05:46] <Jmax1632> membreya: when are you expecting him?\
[05:46] <membreya> BrianAnthony: gaim allows you to logon with multiple protocols, including aim
[05:46] <kimcascone> sorry I couldn't be more help
[05:46] <BrianAnthony> membreya: I know this.
[05:46] <membreya> Jmax1632: usually trolling at night
[05:46] <Jmax1632> SiRrUs: please join #jmax, it's not me
[05:46] <membreya> thoreauputic: considering I did one term of it 12 years ago? :)
[05:46] <BrianAnthony> membreya: AIM uses the TOC protocol
[05:46] <thoreauputic> membreya: I think you meant "je ne sais quoi" but I can't be sure... ;-)
[05:46] <Jmax1632> a friend who has ubntu
[05:46] <BrianAnthony> membreya: AIM is just a frontend
[05:46] <thoreauputic> membreya: hehe
[05:46] <SiRrUs> why dont they join here?
[05:47] <BrianAnthony> membreya: GAIM != AIM
[05:47] <Jmax1632> ok
[05:47] <membreya> BrianAnthony: I stand aside for your glory :)
[05:47] <BrianAnthony> membreya: =P I'm just guessing this.
[05:47] <BrianAnthony> lol
[05:47] <membreya> lol!
[05:48] <inc_> cool they got torrent d/ls
[05:49] <Jmax1632> SiRrUs: bubbaonlinux
[05:49] <bubbaonlinux> hey
[05:49] <SiRrUs> hello
[05:50] <bubbaonlinux> jmax said you might be able to help i'm getting a kernal panic after running 2.6.4-10 linux-image is there a way to revert back so i can boot again
[05:50] <Jmax1632> my trolling is just a frontend ;0
[05:50] <farruinn> veristead: how fast is your connection?
[05:50] <bubbaonlinux> err linux-image 2.6.10-4-686 to be more specific
[05:50] <jdub> bubbaonlinux: upgrade again, or boot with 'noinotify'
[05:51] <membreya> Jmax1632: this was your major problem??
[05:51] <membreya> it's a known flaw with a few workarounds
[05:52] <Jmax1632> ;)
[05:52] <billytwowilly> bubbaonlinux, hit esc during bootup and select the old kernel in grub..
[05:52] <membreya> either running noinotify or boot to a stable kernel and do an apt-get update && upgrade...there's a patch out there
[05:52] <bubbaonlinux> old kernal isn't there
[05:52] <membreya> bubbaonlinux: deleted it ?
[05:52] <bubbaonlinux> not that i know of but its obviously gone
[05:52] <crimsun> boot from the livecd and chroot into your install
[05:52] <billytwowilly> bubbaonlinux, It should be.  I don't know if it will fix your problem either, but it might. It certainly sounds like what is the problem anyway..
[05:59] <billytwowilly> oh, make sure you mount the hard drive read and write.
[05:59] <bubbaonlinux> ok i'm booting it up now can someone else help me since he has to go
[06:01] <compmanio36> hmm....not too hot about hoary so far....
[06:02] <NeoChaosX> has naybody had any stability problem upgrading from Warty to Hoary? Would it be safe to do it now or wait until Hoary's finalized?
[06:02] <compmanio36> oh.....never mind....there's the package manager :P
[06:03] <geppy> NeoChaosX:  Hoary is unstable.
[06:03] <billytwowilly> NeoChaosX, I had problems with the 2.6.10-4 kernel, but it's fixed now.
[06:03] <crimsun> NeoChaosX: it's safe at this present moment
[06:03] <SiRrUs> NeoChaosX so far so good for me
[06:03] <bubbaonlinux> i see the warty cd just totally wipes out the sources.list can converts them back to warty
[06:04] <geppy> NeoChaosX:  If you're in the least concerned about stability, you should wait until Hoary final is released.  It's almost time.
[06:04] <NeoChaosX> I see
[06:04] <moquist_> anybody know what table types are included by default in mysql in ubuntu?
[06:04] <bubbaonlinux> when is array 6 coming out?
[06:04] <moquist_> or anybody know how I can figure it out?
[06:04] <NeoChaosX> I guess I'll stick with Warty for now
[06:04] <Bandit> NeoChaosX its been very stable for me
[06:05] <bubbaonlinux> its stable till it doesn't boot like with me but i think i caused this problem :)
[06:05] <NeoChaosX> Hm
[06:05] <Bandit> Server Uptime 10 days, 1:31:10 thats fairly stable
[06:05] <geppy> Bandit:  Erm... no.
[06:06] <bubbaonlinux> can someone pm me their hoary sources.list please or point me to where i can find it please
[06:06] <Bandit> with an "unstable" OS  Erm yeah
[06:06] <geppy> Bandit:  With GNU/Linux, ten days is nothing.
[06:06] <geppy> Bandit:  It doesn't matter what distro you're running, ten days is nothing.
[06:07] <Yomega> agreed
[06:07] <moquist> Bandit: ubuntu "unstable" isn't *that* unstable
[06:07] <Bandit> geppy thats right
[06:07] <geppy> Bandit:  You don't get it.
[06:07] <Bandit> I get it fine
[06:07] <Yomega> arf lol
[06:08] <Bandit> geppy you usually sit in here and whine about how unstable the OS is
[06:08] <joeblow> What's a good WYSIWYG html editor for linux other than mozilla composer/nvu??
[06:08] <geppy> Bandit:  "unstable" means that it's not fin-tuned enough for regular use;  that doesn't mean that it'll crash as soon as your turn it on
[06:08] <Bandit> your kidding would never have known
[06:08] <Bandit> thanks for the education
[06:08] <geppy> Bandit:  No, I've complained one time in the six months that I've been here, and that was about an hour ago, because I came home after the weekend to find that my computer was unresponsive.
[06:09] <geppy> Bandit:  Fine, flame me, I'm not going to argue with you.
[06:09] <thoreauputic> gentlemen! gentlemen! no fighting - think of the furniture!
[06:09] <bubbaonlinux> well i'm convienced when hoary borks there is no return :P cause i can't figure out how to apt-get my old image
[06:09] <geppy> thoreauputic:  hahaha =)
[06:09] <Yomega> arf lol
[06:09] <geppy> bubbaonlinux:  Not only that, I installed gallery, and now dpkg is broken. =)
[06:09] <bubbaonlinux> yeah that happened to me before
[06:09] <bubbaonlinux> reinstalled
[06:09] <SiRrUs> amazing :)
[06:09] <bubbaonlinux> now this
[06:09] <farruinn> geppy: ouch
[06:10] <bbbman> hey guys, whats a way to partition my hard drive besides fidsk and qtparted
[06:10] <bbbman> nevermind guys
[06:10] <geppy> farruinn:  Yeah.    I can't even open the printer gui admin dialog...
[06:15] <bbbman> ok, is there a link for bootstrap already compiled?
[06:15] <geppy> thoreauputic:  haha
[06:15] <bubbaonlinux> anyone know what time today array 6 will be release?
[06:15] <Yomega> rythmbox is working very bad on my PC
[06:15] <geppy> thoreauputic:  "a few"? =)
[06:16] <Yomega> horrible lagging
[06:16] <geppy> thoreauputic:  If I wasn't so lazy, I'd be running iTunes
[06:16] <thoreauputic> geppy: it's called understatement, i believe....
[06:16] <geppy> Yomega:  that's a sound server problem, and it's not really fixable, unless you want to use plain ol' OSS or ALSA, or switch to JACK, none of which would I advise
[06:16] <geppy> thoreauputic:  haha, yeah
[06:17] <bbbman> i want to build the bootstrap but im afarid i dont have any compilers on my system
[06:17] <helio7> any tips on getting my printer config re-opened? I think I broke it by messing with cups settings...
[06:17] <geppy> hahaha
[06:17] <crimsun> bbbman: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:17] <membreya> whats rythmbox? :|
[06:17] <NeoChaosX> beep-media-player > XMMS, imo
[06:17] <Nic1> yo
[06:18] <geppy> NeoChaosX:  Beep is basically the same as XMMS, just prettier. =)
[06:18] <saphari_> hi is kim still here?
[06:18] <NeoChaosX> Yeah, I prefer GTK2 over GTK1
[06:18] <NicP> what do u use geppy?
[06:18] <saphari_> aww,  i got xmms to work
[06:19] <geppy> NicP:  I'm using Rhythmbox
[06:19] <NeoChaosX> Partially because I still can't seem to be able to change my GTK1 theme even with the theme-switch program
[06:19] <NicP> hmm i'll have to look at that
[06:19] <membreya> hmmmm rhythmbox appears to be a playlist manager???
[06:19] <thoreauputic> saphari_: well done you !
[06:19] <geppy> NicP:  It comes with Ubuntu
[06:19] <NicP> i havent installed it yet :P
[06:19] <geppy> membreya:  It's a music library manager;  it doesn't really make use of playlists
[06:19] <geppy> NicP:  haha =)
[06:20] <NeoChaosX> I had to get the deb from the official beep site, though, the menus in the repository version of BMP were broken
[06:20] <saphari_> yes i am very pleased,  will you please pass on  that i got and a big thank you
[06:20] <membreya> geppy: I have like 980 music videos.. I don't need a manager :|
[06:20] <geppy> membreya:  haha
[06:20] <crimsun> moquist: sorry if someone else already answered; seems to be berkeleydb (bdb), innodb, and isam
[06:21] <geppy> membreya:  It's not that I need one, only that I'm getting to where I like to be productive every once in a while, and beating XMMS into submission kind of takes time away from that. =)
[06:21] <moquist> crimsun: nope, nobody else said a thing.
[06:21] <crimsun> moquist: check the various flags passed to ./configure in $(source)/debian/rules
[06:21] <saphari_> you got to into to xmms and pick cdrom and it will list the songs
[06:21] <moquist> crimsun: but when I try to create innodb tables i get myisam instead... :(
[06:21] <moquist> BDB tables work fine
[06:21] <saphari_> ok bed for me
[06:21] <thoreauputic> saphari_: indeed
[06:22] <thoreauputic> saphari_: sleep well
[06:22] <saphari_> i'll be back just to learn from you all :)
[06:22] <saphari_> night
[06:22] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:22] <membreya> saphari_: ignore thoreauputic then
[06:22] <NicP> the problem with all those music managers is that my music dosent work well with them
[06:22] <thoreauputic> membreya: excellent advice
[06:22] <saphari_> lol,  why
[06:22] <NicP> my musit isnt artist/album
[06:23] <NicP> its all compilation cds and vinyl rips
[06:23] <thoreauputic> saphari_: I have unresolved issues, according to membreya ;)
[06:23] <membreya> including grooming :P
[06:23] <saphari_> will i learn more then linux ;)
[06:23] <thoreauputic> saphari_: he's right, of course
[06:23] <helio7> i'm somewhat at my wits end I need to print for a deadline tomorrow and I can't find the answer in the forums; can anyone lend me a hand with a simple usb printer configuration problem?
[06:24] <membreya> remember, I'm a sociopath.. I know you better than you do
[06:24] <thoreauputic> membreya: ah, I wasn't aware my webcam was working....
[06:24] <saphari_> lol
[06:24] <membreya> thoreauputic: I ha><0red j00!
[06:24] <thoreauputic> membreya: that wouldn't be difficult...
[06:24] <farruinn> helio7: you'd probably have better luck asking your question
[06:24] <helio7> I tried that a couple of times first
[06:25] <saphari_> ok i'm off now,  bye guys :)
[06:25] <moquist> crimsun: thx for the advice about the configure flags - that's what I had no idea how to do.
[06:25] <helio7> farruinn: I'm getting "The CUPS server could not be contacted" error, I want to print to my attached usb HP printer that was working fine yesterday before I messed with the settings trying to get network print to work... any quick tips?  I can't even open the printer gui admin dialog...
[06:25] <thoreauputic> OH NO! I have b33n p0wnedZ0r!
[06:25] <membreya> ROFLOLMAO
[06:25] <membreya> erm....z0r
[06:27] <bubbaonlinux> curious if your system is hosed and you don't want to actually loose everything is skipping to base install without formating possible to work? are am i looking at more borkness :)
[06:29] <farruinn> helio7: I odn't know if this will help, but 'dpkg-reconfigure --default-priority cupsys' might help...
[06:29] <thoreauputic> bubbaonlinux: it rather depends on whether you have a separate home partition for your important data, or similar
[06:29] <helio7> farruinn: thanks i'll try it
[06:30] <farruinn> helio7: you may have to do an 'apt-get remove --purge cupsys' if that doesn't work, then reinstall it
[06:30] <bubbaonlinux> ok i can't complain too much even though it has pissed me off i thought i had hoary all done waiting for new array and wammo :)
[06:30] <bubbaonlinux> live and learn
[06:31] <helio7> farruinn does "child exited with status 98 mean anything?
[06:31] <farruinn> is that all it said?
[06:31] <itga> hi all, How can I automount USB storage device with PCMCIA USB
[06:31] <itga> ??
[06:32] <b> hi, how can I get rid of the package verification feature so I quit getting lame errors
[06:34] <bbbman> hey guys, if i dont have make on my comptuer
[06:34] <bbbman> what else could i use as a subustitue
[06:35] <b> How can I get rid of GPG verification feature , turn it off, so I dont get the warnings for unauthorized software?
[06:35] <thoreauputic> b get your packages from approved sources?
[06:35] <eclipse> g
[06:35] <bbbman> yea my packages are from apporved sources
[06:35] <bbbman> i need to "make" the boot strap
[06:35] <b> lol...some good packages arent approved and that wasnt a friendly answer
[06:36] <MyNameIsChris> Does anyone know why my ps2 ports fail under an smp kernel?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> bbbman: sudo apt-get install build-essential make
[06:36] <eclipse> can anyone help me have the window panel?
[06:36] <bbbman> thoreuaputic: no apt-get
[06:36] <daejavu> elipse : shoot !
[06:37] <thoreauputic> bbbman: ah
[06:37] <dr_willis> hmm - for an AMD64 machine (test machine, not any real work) would anyone care to reccoemd Hoary over warty? or Visa Versa?
[06:37] <geppy> Okay, I'm having some serious difficulties installing gallery, because when I try to open my gallery folder from my browser, it attempts to download it, because it "is a zip file"
[06:37] <dr_willis> wanting to test out Cedega also on it.
[06:37] <geppy> I'm lost.
[06:37] <geppy> dr_willis:  Warty would be better for gaming.
[06:37] <b> BTW Thoreu, you said earlier that u used alot of different sources, obviously not approved, so you are a hypocrite not to answer an easy question without rebukeing me
[06:38] <helio7> farruin, i'm very appreciative for the tips; troubleshooting can be beyond my abilities when under a deadline and past my thinking hour; the printer is working now...
[06:38] <dr_willis> warty the one with x.org? or Xfree? why better?
[06:38] <geppy> dr_willis:  Truthfully, Transgaming says that 2.4.x is better for gaming, but Warty should be fine.
[06:38] <farruinn> helio7: excellent, what did you have to do?
[06:38] <dr_willis> I am assumeing the Xfree vs Xorg was the issue. Lol.
[06:38] <geppy> dr_willis:  I wasn't aware that any of Warty had x.org.  I'd go with XFree, because Transgaming supports it more fully.
[06:38] <b> all I asked was how to turn the lame warning off
[06:38] <dr_willis> yea.. i got a few machinew with each.. i can never keep the  2 seperate.. :P
[06:38] <geppy> dr_willis:  Oh, well, Warty is more stable, which is important.
[06:38] <geppy> dr_willis:  haha =)
[06:39] <dr_willis> warty is the 'safe bet' ? and Hoary is the "cutting edge" ?
[06:39] <farruinn> dr_willis: right
[06:39] <dr_willis> Heh :P
[06:39] <dr_willis> Guess i will stick with warty then.
[06:40] <mystify> can anybody help me plz
[06:40] <bbbman> so any ideas on how i can build this package without make
[06:40] <geppy> mystify:  Just ask your question.
[06:40] <geppy> bbbman:  I don't see how you could make anything without make.
[06:40] <mystify> i have a program called Reason and i dunno how to install it
[06:40] <mystify> on linux
[06:41] <magnon> mystify: that's a windows/mac program as far as I know, the audio program at least
[06:41] <dr_willis> Hmm.. never heard of it. :P
[06:41] <goldfish> emm
[06:41] <geppy> mystify:  Is it a Linux program?
[06:41] <farruinn> mystify: is that some sort of audio app?
[06:41] <b> so it is my guess that you really dont know how to turn the synaptic warning off yourself then...
[06:41] <goldfish> it is an audio app
[06:41] <goldfish> ybest one around1
[06:41] <mystify> yes, its for making music and such
[06:41] <magnon> mystify: that won't go for lijnux
[06:41] <magnon> -j
[06:41] <mystify> gigantic program
[06:41] <mystify> ah man...that bites
[06:41] <geppy> mystify:  You could try WINE, but it probably won't work.
[06:41] <goldfish> yeah
[06:41] <helio7> farruinn: i tried the dpkg-reconfigure but that didnt' solve it, so i did "sudo apt-get remove --purge cupsys and then 'sudo apt-get install cupsys' and that worked (= pretty simple i guess, but i've never uninstalled anything like that before so the syntax would have taken me a long time to figure out
[06:41] <mystify> i cant ever get wine to work thoguh
[06:41] <goldfish> the soundbanls are huge
[06:41] <magnon> geppy: and the audio subsys would suck.
[06:42] <mystify> though*
[06:42] <geppy> mystify:  There are a ton of good Linux audio apps out there.  Try Audacity, DDClip, and the like.
[06:42] <geppy> magnon:  Yeah.
[06:42] <mystify> where do i get these?
[06:42] <dr_willis> Ive gotten wine working with basic programs like irfanview and so forth.
[06:42] <waseem> Hi I am having two problems. My sound does not seem to be working. All my music files wont open up with any audio players. Also how do I configure my webcam (Logitech Quickcam Pro). Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
[06:42] <geppy> mystify:  Try looking in Synaptic.
[06:42] <magnon> I use rosegarden for music notation. It's good
[06:42] <mystify> im brand new to linux so could you or someone else walk me through using synaptic?
[06:42] <geppy> waseem:  What model?
[06:43] <waseem> 4000
[06:43] <geppy> waseem:  Mmm, good.
[06:43] <waseem> ok
[06:43] <magnon> mystify: sorry, I'm in a hurry right now - but there are loads of documentation around
[06:43] <waseem> geppy: can you help me out?
[06:43] <magnon> they are in the channel topic
[06:43] <geppy> waseem:  Try installing 'qccam' and whatever is required.
[06:43] <mystify> ugh, i hate reading stuff online, gets too boring and complicated
[06:43] <mystify> thanks anyways though
[06:43] <magnon> mystify: the ubuntu documentation should be pretty straightforward.
[06:43] <waseem> geppy: where can i get qccam?
[06:43] <magnon> or, try waiting for someone else to help :)
[06:43] <geppy> waseem:  I know of people who've installed it on Mandrake with no problem, but I don't have one, so I can't really help you, sorry...  I could point you to some forum posts, I suppose.
[06:44] <waseem> ok thanks
[06:44] <geppy> waseem:  It's in some repository or another.  Have you enabled universe/multiverse?
[06:44] <waseem> im unsure
[06:44] <geppy> waseem:  run this:
[06:44] <geppy> waseem: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <waseem> geppy: now what do i do
[06:45] <geppy> waseem:  Remove the # from the beginning of the lines that say this:
[06:45] <geppy>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[06:45] <geppy>  deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[06:45] <geppy> waseem:  Then save it, and run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install qccam'
[06:45] <geppy> waseem:  erm, qcam
[06:46] <Dr_willis> all rigthy - lets get this Warty Install going.. oh wait - did i want Hoary.,..
[06:46] <geppy> waseem:  It doesn't look like there's a binary module available:  I can walk you through building the module using module-assistant, if you'd like.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> *sigh* :P
[06:46] <geppy> Dr_willis:  No.
[06:46] <geppy> =P
[06:46] <waseem> that would be appreciated
[06:46] <waseem> but let me install qcam first
[06:46] <waseem> its still updating
[06:46] <geppy> waseem:  Alright.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> dang it - i burnt one of both.. and think i got the labels backwards...
[06:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:46] <geppy> =)
[06:47] <waseem> ok its done
[06:47] <waseem> now what should i do
[06:48] <geppy> waseem:  Well, first, try and see if it just works, just in case. =)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm. this install sees my SATA raid.. Nifty..
[06:48] <geppy> waseem:  run qcam
[06:48] <waseem> geppy: qcam cannot be found
[06:48] <geppy> waseem:  Try gqcam
[06:48] <waseem> geppy: i updated and installed everything
[06:48] <waseem> ok
[06:49] <waseem> nope
[06:49] <waseem> doesnt work either
[06:49] <geppy> waseem:  try 'apt-get install gqcam qc-usb-source qc-usb-source'
[06:50] <geppy> ='
[06:50] <geppy> ='(
[06:50] <waseem> k
[06:50] <geppy> waseem:  does gqcam run?
[06:51] <waseem> /dev/video: No such file or directory
[06:51] <mystify> can anybody help me download and install Audacity or DDClip?
[06:51] <waseem> after i tried to run gqcam
[06:51] <geppy> waseem:  Alright, I think that if we build the module, it should work.
[06:51] <waseem> ok
[06:51] <geppy> waseem:  apt-get install module-assistant
[06:52] <waseem> ok
[06:52] <geppy> waseem:  module-assistant
[06:52] <geppy> waseem: wait, no
[06:52] <geppy> waseem:  sudo module-assistant
[06:52] <b> I'll ask my question once more, how can I turn off gpg key warnings when I want to use unauthorized repositories to get special software (ie.libdvdcss)?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> mystify: audacity appears to be in the universe repository - so ` sudo apt-get install audacity` shoud do it if you have enabled "universe'
[06:53] <geppy> b:  If they don't bother you, why not just ignore them?
[06:53] <waseem> geppy: i did that and now a grey box appeared in the terminal
[06:53] <waseem> it has several options
[06:53] <geppy> waseem:  Yes, select UPDATE and then tab to OK
[06:53] <waseem> ok
[06:53] <b> because I remember they can be turned off and I turned them off in other distros, but forgot how
[06:54] <mystify> k thank you
[06:54] <waseem> geppy: its done updating
[06:54] <geppy> waseem:  PREPARE
[06:54] <b> simple question...but maybe too technical here...
[06:54] <farruinn> I'm trying to build mol (following MacOnLinuxHowto wiki page) but it fails because it can't find /include/linux/config.h however config.h is in /usr/include/linux
[06:55] <waseem> geppy: its done
[06:55] <farruinn> Short of symlinking /usr/include to /include, how do I fix this?
[06:55] <geppy> waseem: SELECT
[06:55] <bob2> b: yes, way too technical
[06:55] <geppy> waseem:  then, select qc-usb, qce
[06:55] <bob2> no one here has apt knowledge comparable to yours
[06:55] <geppy> bob2: hahaha =)
[06:55] <bob2> I believe you use the -l option to slapt-get to disable it
[06:56] <geppy> waseem:  Then, tab to OK
[06:56] <b> um...flaming bob?
[06:56] <waseem> ok
[06:56] <bob2> farruinn: er, sure it's looing for /include? that dir doesn't exist on any linux system.
[06:56] <waseem> geppy: what should i do next
[06:56] <b> Ubuntu man  PEACE
[06:56] <thoreauputic> b pot kettle?
[06:56] <mystify> ok...i need help...i used synaptic to get audacity and now i dunno how or where to run the program
[06:56] <geppy> waseem: GET
[06:56] <geppy> waseem:  Then, BUILD, INSTALL, and BACK
[06:56] <bob2> farruinn: I'd guess it's looking for /includes/ under the kernel source tree, but the kernel source dir variable is empty
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. "Can not find the hardware clock by any known method" - thats a new messge for this machine. :P
[06:56] <b> I only tried to help and was attacked for no reason
[06:57] <waseem> geppyL
[06:57] <geppy> waseem:  Yes
[06:57] <waseem> geppy:   Bad luck, the kernel headers for this kernel version could not
[06:57] <waseem>       be found
[06:57] <waseem>       and you did not specify other kernel headers to use.
[06:57] <geppy> waseem:  Oh, my mistake.
[06:57] <geppy> waseem:  can you run 'uname -r', and give me the output?
[06:57] <bob2> b: man apt-get, --allow-unauthenticated
[06:57] <b> thank you Bob
[06:58] <waseem> geppy: in a new terminal?
[06:58] <geppy> waseem:  Preferably.
[06:58] <Dr_willis> --allow-unauthenticated  - GESH what a long "flag" that is..
[06:58] <mystify> HELP!
[06:58] <waseem> 2.6.10-2-386
[06:58] <GreySim> Anyone know of a good Linux networking FAQ/Howto?  I seem to be having trouble resolving domain names, but it's only for http requests and only under Linux.  I keep having to ping a site to get it's IP address before I can visit it.  >.<
[06:59] <farruinn> bob2: should I really need the kernel source for building this module?  According tot he howto it should only need linux-headers-*
[06:59] <b> I thought there was a file in /etc that could be commented out too, but maybe i am mistaken
[06:59] <mystify> thx, but i downloaded Audacity from Synaptic, and i think it installed itself, but where do i find it and how do i run the program?!?!?!?!
[06:59] <geppy> waseem: apt-get install linux-source-.... wait, are you running Hoary?
[06:59] <adamZ> mystify: start a terminal, type audacity (assuming it's not already in the menu)
[06:59] <farruinn> bob2: the file it wants, config.h exists, include/linux is simply in /usr not /
[06:59] <waseem> geppy: how do i find out if im running hoary?
[07:00] <mystify> wow, that helped
[07:00] <thoreauputic> waseem: cat /etc/issue
[07:00] <mystify> thanks
[07:00] <waseem> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" Development Branch \n \l
[07:00] <geppy> waseem:  I just rebooted back to Hoary, I'm not exactly sure what the Hoary packages are called.
[07:00] <geppy> waseem: sudo apt-get install linux-source-* linux-headers-*
[07:00] <geppy> =)
[07:01] <Amaranth> man, i can't wait to see the upgrades i'm going to have when i hook my hoary box up again tomorrow
[07:01] <bob2> farruinn: er,, no, the files in /usr/include/ are not what you need
[07:01] <waseem> geppy: its gonna take 10 minutes
[07:01] <Amaranth> it hasn't had internet access for about 45 days
[07:01] <bob2> farruinn: you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:01] <waseem> well 5 minutes now
[07:01] <geppy> waseem:  Okay, go have some donuts. =)
[07:01] <b> Thanks for the help I have received here, and if I have offended, I am sorry, not my intent...I only tried to help
[07:01] <waseem> hahaha
[07:01] <geppy> =D
[07:01] <thoreauputic> b Peace, then :)
[07:01] <geppy> Anyone know why Apache would try to pass of a directory as a zip file?
[07:01] <b> same
[07:01] <wm_eddie> ok
[07:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:02] <b> bubye
[07:02] <wm_eddie> I think I'm in trouble.
[07:02] <Dr_willis> geppy,  hmm.. that sounds very odd..  permission issues perhaps?
[07:02] <wm_eddie> my dist-upgrade (to hoary) fails with libwxgtk2.4
[07:02] <Dr_willis> if ya download the .zip whats in it? :P
[07:02] <geppy> Dr_willis:  It's all 0777
[07:02] <wm_eddie>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/helpviewer', which is also in package wxpython2.5.3
[07:04] <membreya> hmmm anyone know of some funky themes for gnome ? or is it just a vanilla desktop?
[07:05] <jdub> membreya: www.gnome-look.org, art.gnome.org, and there are themes already included
[07:06] <geppy> Dr_willis:  haha
[07:06] <geppy> Dr_willis:  file-roller says "Could not open 's3jsqm85.phtml' \n Archive type not supported"
[07:06] <geppy> Dr_willis:  Perhaps I don't have phtml support enabled?
[07:06] <geppy> Dr_willis:  I mean, not in file-roller, but for apache
[07:06] <waseem> geppy: its done
[07:06] <wm_eddie> I think the wxgtk-python package is bugged.
[07:06] <copilot> If I install gaim 1.1.4 from source, will it overwrite 1.1.0?
[07:06] <GreySim> Sorry to "spam", but this is gonna be the last time I bother people in here with this, and only because it seems a little less hectic than it did the first time I asked, but...
[07:06] <GreySim> Anyone know of a good Linux networking FAQ/Howto?  I seem to be having trouble resolving domain names, but it's only for http requests and only under Linux.  I keep having to ping a site to get it's IP address before I can visit it.  >.<
[07:06] <bob2> copilot: install it to /usr/local/ and it won't
[07:06] <bob2> (highly recommended)
[07:06] <Dr_willis> geppy,  hmm.. save it to disk amnd look at it? try a differnt browser?
[07:06] <copilot> I shall do that.
[07:06] <bob2> GreySim: 'only for http'? are you sure?
[07:07] <membreya> GreySim: how's your resolv.conf?
[07:07] <GreySim> No, but that's all I've noticed.
[07:07] <waseem> geppy: its done
[07:07] <copilot> err. how do I specify.
[07:07] <copilot> I suck so much. =(
[07:07] <GreySim> membreya, I'll check real quick, 1 sec.
[07:07] <membreya> copilot: the question is not of if you suck or not but if you suck good
[07:07] <bob2> copilot: ./configure --help
[07:07] <farruinn> bob2: Thanks, for some reason my kernel version is <IP_ADDRESS>-3 but <IP_ADDRESS>-5 headers are available
[07:07] <bob2> copilot: prefix is what you want
[07:08] <bob2> [Zenith] `afk: please turn that off
[07:08] <GreySim> search domain.actdsltmp
[07:08] <GreySim> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:08] <GreySim> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:08] <bob2> farruinn: you'll need to upgrade your kernel then
[07:08] <GreySim> Nameservers are correct--no idea where the search bit came from.
[07:08] <bob2> that came from your dns server
[07:08] <geppy> Dr_willis:  Hrm, Apache sucks on Ubuntu =)
[07:08] <geppy> waseem:  Try going back into 'module-assistant', and trying to build the Quickcam modules again
[07:08] <Dr_willis> dns server? or dhcp server?
[07:08] <farruinn> bob2: *-3 headers are available too though and apt-get upgrade doesn't install anything
[07:09] <waseem> geppy: same problem
[07:09] <wm_eddie> go hoary go.
[07:09] <wm_eddie> apt is almost done
[07:09] <waseem> Bad luck, the kernel headers for this kernel version could not be found and you did not specify other kernel headers to use.
[07:09] <Gwildor> hello
[07:10] <bob2> farruinn: well, install them
[07:10] <membreya> GreySim: what happens when you ping a websites domain name in a console?
[07:10] <Gwildor> i just installed on my thinkpad T22, but my viewable area is alot smaller than my actual screen size, how do i re-configure my driver?
[07:10] <farruinn> bob2: obviously, I was just clarifying, thanks =)
[07:10] <GreySim> Pings work correctly.
[07:11] <GreySim> Resolves to the IP just fine.
[07:11] <membreya> and in your web browser, what happens when you try to connect to a domain name?
[07:12] <bob2> farruinn: heh
[07:12] <waseem> ahh where did geppy go
[07:13] <GreySim> It says in the status bar "Resolving host google.com...", but I just now noticed that after that it says "Connecting to google.com..." and hangs there until a time-out error occurs.  Maybe it's not resolution problems after all.  >.<
[07:14] <membreya> GreySim: tried disabling IPv6 resolution ? :)
[07:14] <GreySim> Ah.  Well, all I know is that I'm not very Linux proficient, and that the problem doesn't occur under Windows, but it does occur under Ubuntu and Arch Linux.  If nobody has the time to hold my hand for this I understand, it's just hard to search for help myself with a busted connection, and my Windows box dead.
[07:14] <GammaRay> GreySim: ping is your friend
[07:14] <GreySim> I have not.
[07:14] <waseem> does anyone know where geppy went?
[07:14] <Gwildor> how do i reconfigure my Xserver?
[07:14] <membreya> GreySim: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#disableipv6-mozilla
[07:15] <GammaRay> dpkg-reconfigure ...
[07:15] <wm_eddie> Gwildor: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree?
[07:15] <Gwildor> thnx
[07:15] <mud_> or xorg
[07:15] <wm_eddie> or something like that.
[07:15] <Gwildor> TY
[07:16] <GreySim> Doh!  The IP address ping resolved to for that site doesn't seem to lead to the actual site.  >.<
[07:16] <GreySim> Thanks though.  I'll poke through about:config and see if I can't find the setting there.
[07:16] <GreySim> Thanks for the help.
[07:17] <crazney> for the love of god, can someone PLEASE remove bicyclerepair from ubuntu-desktop ?
[07:17] <crazney> kthxbye
[07:17] <membreya> lol
[07:18] <thoreauputic> great name for a package...
[07:18] <bob2> it's a useful program
[07:19] <thoreauputic> bob2: I don't doubt it :)
[07:19] <bob2> not to 95% of people, tho
[07:19] <thoreauputic> I wasn't being sarcastic
[07:19] <bob2> hah
[07:19] <bob2> me either :)
[07:21] <ubernoob> does anyone use wireless with Orinoco? I'm trying to set it in monitor mode without luck :(
[07:27] <Anubis> I have a new menu on my menu
[07:28] <Anubis> its a "debian" submenu
[07:28] <Anubis> dunno where it came from
[07:28] <b> hi again...short question:  is the startup.wav in Hoary working...Warty works fine for me but not HOary...
[07:28] <Anubis> how do I update it or remove or change it?
[07:28] <Anubis> works in Hoary
[07:29] <TomAraya> Hello.
[07:29] <b> hi Tom
[07:29] <TomAraya> Hey b.
[07:29] <b> :)
[07:30] <b> Does your startup.wav work in Hoary?
[07:31] <StoffBox-Steve> Good morning Guys, thoreauputic you allways here or ? :)
[07:31] <b> Hi Steve
[07:31] <ubernoob> good morning
[07:31] <StoffBox-Steve> *....* its fu** cold here :(
[07:32] <b> It about 1:30am here
[07:32] <StoffBox-Steve> 7:32am here
[07:32] <membreya> it's 33 degrees celcius here StoffBox-Steve :|
[07:32] <StoffBox-Steve> *grrrr * membreya * -10 here
[07:32] <ubernoob> StoffBox-Steve: where do you live?
[07:33] <StoffBox-Steve> germany > Osnabrueck
[07:33] <ubernoob> StoffBox-Steve: well... try living in norway :(
[07:33] <wm_eddie> mono still doesn't work
[07:33] <membreya> Austrlia :)
[07:33] <zenrox> lol
[07:33] <wm_eddie> Why the hell!
[07:34] <zenrox> or hillbilly style in nowhare
[07:34] <b> Does the startup.wav work in Hoary for others?  It doesn't for me, but does in Warty for me
[07:34] <StoffBox-Steve> when i can i give norway a try, lovely land :)
[07:34] <ubernoob> but cold! brrr!
[07:35] <b> about 10F deg here now
[07:35] <EndGame> evening hippies
[07:35] <EndGame> how is everyone tonight
[07:35] <zenrox> 41f here its a reagulay heat wave
[07:35] <b> I got a spaceheater pointed directly on my back
[07:36] <zenrox> EndGame, just fine ubuntu hoary is worken no more tweeing is needting to be done
[07:36] <StoffBox-Steve> ahh a hot cup of coffee :) someone else what some ? :D
[07:36] <zenrox> please
[07:36] <farruinn> Anyone know why linux-image-2.6-powerpc isn't installed by default? (warty ppc)
[07:36] <EndGame> zenrox, damn right.
[07:37] <EndGame> im watchin this ubuntu gig, man. im thinkin about suggesting it to some friends
[07:37] <b> Sorry Faruinn, I dont know about that
[07:37] <zenrox> thx StoffBox-Steve
[07:37] <wm_eddie> PAIN!
[07:37] <StoffBox-Steve> :) NTN zenrox
[07:38] <zenrox> EndGame,  ya ubuntu kicks butt
[07:38] <zenrox> ntn??
[07:38] <farruinn> Instead of that metapackage I have linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-powerpc which won't be upgraded to later kernels
[07:38] <b> but can you tell me if the startup.wav sound works in Hoary, because for me it doesnt
[07:38] <farruinn> Even with dist-upgrade
[07:38] <StoffBox-Steve> no thanks needed, zenrox
[07:38] <zenrox> oh
[07:38] <zenrox> lol
[07:38] <Xenguy> zenrox: I parsed that 'nighty-nite'
[07:39] <zenrox> Xenguy, lol
[07:39] <farruinn> Oi, ignore that, I forgot I did a custom install, I must have selected *-3 specifically
[07:39] <farruinn> Silly me
[07:39] <zenrox> StoffBox-Steve,  thats part of hoary
[07:40] <zenrox> hence = hoary = devel
[07:40] <b> How did it kill your system?
[07:40] <waseem> Hi my speakers dont seem to be working. I know it's not a problem with the hardware. Can anyone here help me configure the settings so that they work?
[07:41] <daejavu> ppl do we have an ALL-In-ONE kind of a Media player .. one that plays MP3+DVD+Movies(DivX) ??
[07:41] <daejavu> ppl do we have an ALL-In-ONE kind of a Media player .. one that plays MP3+DVD+Movies(DivX) ??
[07:41] <StoffBox-Steve> but was my faul zenrox i run warty ... and what a dist-upgrade yesterday bur forgot have hoary still in the sources-list ... and than . it goes bad ... very bad .. but i very good installing linux > 2 weeks 16 installs *lol*
[07:41] <b> your soundcard is detected Waseem?
[07:41] <waseem> i dont know
[07:41] <ubernoob> i can't even install it... :( when trying to load xscreen or gnome, i just end up with a black screen of dead :(
[07:41] <waseem> b: how can i check that
[07:42] <zenrox> StoffBox-Steve, is this your fist time using linux
[07:42] <b> Waseem look in dmsg lists
[07:42] <waseem> ehh...
[07:43] <StoffBox-Steve> yes zenrox, 2 - 3 weeks ago > Knoppix ( has a recover ) , debian , gentoo , ubuntu :)
[07:43] <waseem> b: i just installed linux today so i dont really know anything im doing. please be patient with my ignorance
[07:43] <EndGame> eh, we all start somewhere
[07:43] <EndGame> except me
[07:43] <EndGame> i was born root
[07:43] <b> sorry dmesg
[07:43] <SiliconViper> StoffBox-Steve, mplayer is nice for that, but I would recommend two apps. One for music, one for video.
[07:44] <zenrox> StoffBox-Steve,  hehehe you sound like me 4 years ago
[07:44] <EndGame> beep-media-player
[07:44] <waseem> b: ok a bunch of lines of code
[07:44] <daejavu> ppl do we have an ALL-In-ONE kind of a Media player .. one that plays MP3+DVD+Movies(DivX) ??
[07:44] <EndGame> StoffBox-Steve, you went from gentoo to ubuntu?
[07:44] <b> do dmesg | less
[07:44] <EndGame> how'd that work out?
[07:44] <SiliconViper> Please stop spamming, we heard you the first time.
[07:45] <waseem> b: ok i got to the end
[07:45] <b> read if you find that your soundcard was detected
[07:45] <waseem> ok
[07:45] <b> if it wasnt, it would probably say
[07:45] <StoffBox-Steve> gentoo was just a testinstall .. what to larn more abour linux :) so stage 1 O3 install, but terminal crash after 3 hours .. bad bad i no time to try it again
[07:45] <delltony> question on hoary which image should i use ? the default one or 2.6.10-3 2.6.10-4 2.6.11-1 ?
[07:46] <b> also, I would look to get "sndconfig" and use it for detect
[07:46] <StoffBox-Steve> EndGame, for gentoo time i all .... many time ....
[07:46] <farruinn> delltony: if 2.6 is available go with that
[07:46] <stu> just installed ubuntu . . . it is great
[07:46] <EndGame> O_o
[07:46] <EndGame> what?
[07:46] <farruinn> delltony: that will allow you to upgrade to newer kernel versions as they are released
[07:46] <delltony> several of them are available thats why i was asking
[07:46] <waseem> b: there is tons of lines, i kinda skimmed through it and didnt find anything that said that the sound card wasnt detected
[07:47] <farruinn> delltony: I mean '2.6' not 2.6.*
[07:47] <wm_eddie> does xorg and nvidia play nice together?
[07:47] <delltony> then i guess its no available then
[07:47] <SiliconViper> wm_eddie, it's sure working nicely for me.
[07:47] <delltony> but that still doesn't answer my question :(
[07:47] <zenrox> wm_eddie, yes
[07:48] <b> waseem , go to your volume control and see if it is working
[07:48] <wm_eddie> ok
[07:48] <farruinn> delltony: I would go with the newest then
[07:48] <wm_eddie> so if I just updated to hoary, I want to remove xserver-xfree and install xserver-xorg?
[07:48] <b> often that is the problem
[07:48] <StoffBox-Steve> hmm, i seems boss dosnt call today, Yeah ... freeday :)
[07:48] <waseem> where is the volume control?
[07:48] <waseem> oh wait
[07:48] <geppy> I can't get gallery to work.
[07:48] <b> in the menu under multimedia
[07:48] <zenrox> wm_eddie, ya basickly as long as nvidia drivers are allready set up right
[07:48] <waseem> i see it at the top of the panel
[07:49] <waseem> its at the highest volume
[07:49] <geppy> waseem:  Did you get your QC working?
[07:49] <waseem> geppy: no, even after i rebooted i got the same error message
[07:49] <geppy> waseem: ah, sorry
[07:49] <waseem> geppy: any other ideas on how i can fix the problem?
[07:50] <waseem> b: the volume control is at the highest possible volume
[07:50] <b> Waseem in volume control look at capture area too
[07:50] <b> turn up stuff there
[07:50] <geppy> Any ideas for Gallery?
[07:51] <geppy> Whenever I try to open my gallery directory to install, apache tells me that I'm downloading a zip file. =/
[07:51] <delltony> ok this is what is confusing me the linux-image-686 in synaptic has a ubuntu label next to it. it says in the description this package willa lways depend on the latest kernel image. so i click on it right and it gives me <IP_ADDRESS>-686 but when i look in the list of images the latest is 2.6.11-1  so whats the deal?
[07:51] <StoffBox-Steve> waseem, have you an onboard card ? look at the device manager for the card
[07:51] <waseem> b: i was looking in the wrong area, im trying to open Volume Control from applications but it isnt opening...blah i feel stupid
[07:51] <Deviant> I have a cdr/dvd-rom combo in my laptop and looks like ubuntu only reconized it as a cdr drive! anyone know how I can fix this? would be nice to play dvds.
[07:52] <b> is it working now?
[07:52] <Chipzz> delltony: maybe 2.6.11 is not considered stable?
[07:52] <waseem> b: i cannot get access to the volume control
[07:52] <Chipzz> delltony: last time I tried nvidia drivers didn't compile on it
[07:52] <b> Devient  ln -sf /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd
[07:52] <delltony> maybe thats it
[07:53] <delltony> so you went with 10-4?
[07:53] <b> if you cannot get access it is because your soundcard is not detected
[07:53] <waseem> i have a soundcard
[07:53] <waseem> how do i manually detect it then
[07:53] <b> but Ubuntu must find it
[07:54] <b> if it is not detected automatically you can use a tool like sndconfig  look for the .deb version through google
[07:54] <waseem> i dont understand, my sound was working just earlier. and then all of a sudden i have this problem
[07:55] <waseem> well i rebooted then i had this problem
[07:55] <b> it was working?
[07:55] <daejavu> SiliconViper: thanks dude !!
[07:55] <geppy> combo
[07:55] <StoffBox-Steve> waseem, did you install KDE or somethink else ?
[07:56] <waseem> kde, i dont think so
[07:56] <waseem> what is that?
[07:56] <waseem> the only thing i installed was something from linux source, geppy would knw
[07:56] <waseem> while i was trying to configure my webcam
[07:56] <StoffBox-Steve> just a freaking Desktop waseem ,)
[07:57] <waseem> damn i feel stupid
[07:57] <SiliconViper> daejavu, no worries.
[07:57] <geppy> StoffBox-Steve:  No, he hasn't.
[07:57] <geppy> waseem:  ha, no need
[07:57] <saad> morning
[07:58] <StoffBox-Steve> Gm saad
[07:58] <waseem> bah, so how do i fix the problem?
[07:58] <waseem> they dont have sndconfig in freshmeat, and i cant find a site on google with the file
[07:59] <daejavu> SiliconViper: have u used RealPlayer for linux ?
[08:00] <waseem> b: i downloaded the sndconfig.deb file, now what do i do
[08:01] <SiliconViper> daejavu, Umm... that's proprietary, I try to avoid those whenever possible, and for RealMedia, it *is* possible.
[08:01] <SiliconViper> But I have heard that RealPlayer works.
[08:01] <SiliconViper> Can't help with it though.
[08:02] <daejavu> ive downloaded and installed it .. it works .. but NOT in all cases !
[08:03] <SiliconViper> daejavu, not my problem, really. It's not supported software. ;p And besides, I have no experience with it.
[08:03] <MyNameIsChris> If I compile xine and xine-ui from source, can I apt-get codecs?
[08:03] <jdub> MyNameIsChris: just install xine from universe, and get the w32codecs package from elsewhere (see the wiki)
[08:03] <SiliconViper> MyNameIsChris, you should be able to.
[08:04] <MyNameIsChris> But I already have the source, downloading will take tmie
[08:04] <MyNameIsChris> *time
[08:04] <MyNameIsChris> I guess it would be better to download it, saves time in the end
[08:04] <jdub> it will also integrate with your system and upgrade when there's new versions available
[08:05] <AcidWolf> what app would i use under Ubuntu for professional web designing
[08:05] <MyNameIsChris> I'm so glad my smp kernel finally works
[08:06] <SiliconViper> AcidWolf, I'm partial to BlueFish
[08:06] <AcidWolf> Bluefish hey
[08:06] <AcidWolf> is it on the apt list
[08:06] <SiliconViper> But I hear good things about QuantaPlus too.
[08:06] <SiliconViper> Should be.
[08:06] <SiliconViper> I got it.
[08:06] <AcidWolf> are they both on the apt list
[08:06] <SiliconViper> But it might be in universe.
[08:06] <AcidWolf> ok
[08:06] <SiliconViper> I don't know about Quanta.
[08:06] <AcidWolf> ok ill have a look
[08:06] <AcidWolf> aot-cache search bluefish
[08:07] <AcidWolf> apt*
[08:08] <abelli> AcidWolf: "Ha ha. I almost had you." :)
[08:08] <MyNameIsChris> Hold on, totem plays dvds with libdvdcss?
[08:09] <zenrox> MyNameIsChris, yes
[08:09] <zenrox> technaly
[08:09] <MyNameIsChris> No need for xine
[08:09] <MyNameIsChris> What do you mean technically?
[08:10] <zenrox> totem dont play dvds for me
[08:10] <zenrox> xine does the best for me
[08:10] <TomAraya> I have a question, keep in mind I'm a huge newb. I'm trying to listen to some streaming radio, and it says it is for Windows Media Player. When I right click on the page, it says 'application/x-mplayer2 is required. I find something in Synaptic which is 'mplayer-plug in' but when I try to install it I get errors.
[08:10] <TomAraya> mplayerplug-in:
[08:10] <TomAraya>   Depends: libglib2.0-0 but 2.4.7-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[08:10] <TomAraya>   Depends: libgtk2.0-0 but 2.4.10-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:10] <TomAraya>   Depends: libpango1.0-0 but 1.6.0b-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:10] <TomAraya>  Depends: mplayer but it is not going to be installed
[08:10] <zenrox> all depends on your setup MyNameIsChris
[08:10] <TomAraya> All the repositories mentioned in Ubuntuguide.org are enabled.
[08:12] <mud_> gxine
[08:12] <jdub> MyNameIsChris: install totem-xine and dvdcss
[08:12] <MyNameIsChris> Hmm, when I click play disc, which file on the disk do I play?
[08:13] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: do you mean a with a dvd?
[08:13] <MyNameIsChris> Yes
[08:13] <zenrox> TomAraya, its a dependicy prob
[08:13] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: there's no just one file..
[08:14] <MyNameIsChris> Well I choose the disk and get a file browser, of all the files on the disk
[08:14] <TomAraya> zenrox: I understand that.
[08:14] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: i dont really remember it exactly, but .vob should contain
[08:14] <TomAraya> I guess what I was asking is how do I resolve this issue.
[08:14] <zenrox> TomAraya,  your using warty or hoary
[08:14] <TomAraya> Warty.
[08:14] <MyNameIsChris> As in Totem could not play 'file:///media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB'?
[08:14] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: chapters data, then there are 2 directory with audio and video data..
[08:14] <zenrox> TomAraya,  then i cant help ya
[08:14] <TomAraya> *nod*
[08:14] <farruinn> Will/does OOo2 include the database module?
[08:15] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: ahh.. you mean, how can i play a dvd...right
[08:15] <MyNameIsChris> Correct
[08:15] <crimsun> TomAraya: please paste the output of ,,apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[08:16] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: actually ive never used it.. but it shouldnt be that hard
[08:16] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: what if you click on "play disc" in the movie menu?
[08:16] <MyNameIsChris> That is what I am doing
[08:16] <wm_eddie> ok, so how do I get xcompmgr to work?
[08:17] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: actually jdub suggested using totem-xine..
[08:17] <MyNameIsChris> And that is the xine libraries for totem?
[08:17] <crimsun> wm_eddie: you execute it with some flags
[08:17] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: no its another media player
[08:18] <MyNameIsChris> Then I will just install xine, I used it in my Fedora days
[08:18] <MyNameIsChris> Thanks
[08:18] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: mmm no sorry
[08:18] <TomAraya> crimsun, ok.
[08:18] <wm_eddie> xcompmgr -c -r 5 -l -5 -t -5?
[08:18] <abelli> MyNameIsChris: he mean xine libraries for totem..
[08:18] <wm_eddie> No composite extension
[08:19] <crimsun> wm_eddie: did you add a Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enabled" EndSection to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:19] <wm_eddie> no...
[08:20] <wm_eddie> brb
[08:21] <MyNameIsChris> If I install xine-ui and libdvdcss is that all I need for dvd playback?
[08:22] <waseem> Hi I am having a problem with my speakers. Sound is not being emitted, but I know it's not a hardware problem. Does anyone here know what i can do to fix this problem?
[08:23] <crimsun> waseem: make sure the necessary mixer sliders are unmuted.
[08:23] <waseem> i cannot get access to the volume control crimsun
[08:25] <waseem> ...does anyone ehre know what i can do?
[08:25] <waseem> or how i can get access to my volume control
[08:25] <wm_eddie> woo
[08:25] <crimsun> waseem: does cat /proc/asound/cards list your sound card?
[08:26] <waseem> yes
[08:26] <crimsun> waseem: post amixer output onto http://pastebin.ca
[08:26] <delltony> question for .bachrc   to add a path isn't it export PATH:$PATH=$HOME/bin  ?
[08:27] <waseem> amixer output?
[08:27] <crimsun> delltony: eh, you just need to uncomment the relevant section in ~/.bash_profile
[08:27] <wm_eddie> export PATH=$PATH:STUFF
[08:27] <waseem> you mean the output from the command cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:27] <delltony> so what i typed wasn't correct?
[08:27] <wm_eddie> nope
[08:28] <crimsun> waseem: no, I mean the output from ,,amixer'' (without the commas and quotes)
[08:28] <wm_eddie> remember it this way PATH = $PATH (self) plus : plus other stuff
[08:28] <delltony> so its export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin ?
[08:28] <wm_eddie> yup
[08:28] <delltony> ok i always get the = in the wrong place
[08:28] <delltony> after doing it 4 times i'm almost there
[08:28] <waseem> crimsun: i just post that in the website and then someone helps me out
[08:28] <delltony> haha
[08:31] <waseem> crimsun: i posted it, do you have any idea how long it usually takes for someone to help me out?
[08:31] <crimsun> waseem: I'm trying to load the page.
[08:31] <waseem> http://pastebin.ca/6585
[08:31] <crimsun> yeah, I must have some routing problems
[08:31] <crimsun> can't seem to pull up that domain
[08:32] <waseem> Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
[08:32] <waseem>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
[08:32] <waseem>   Capture channels: Mono
[08:32] <waseem>   Limits: Capture 0 - 3
[08:32] <waseem>   Mono: Capture 0 [0%]  [on]
[08:32] <waseem> that is the output
[08:32] <TomAraya> What's a good media player besides XMMS which isn't working for me or Mplayer which i'm having dependency problems with?
[08:32] <crimsun> hum, do you have a usb headset or something?
[08:32] <waseem> no a microphone
[08:33] <crimsun> TomAraya: vlc, rhythmbox, totem-xine, beep-media-player, ...
[08:33] <crimsun> waseem: so you're trying to record from it?
[08:33] <waseem> no but its plugged in
[08:33] <martijn_> sorry for asking n00b question, but where can I add an apt-get source :?
[08:33] <crimsun> martijn_: in /etc/apt/sources.list, or use Synaptic>Settings>Repositories
[08:33] <MyNameIsChris> /etc/apt/sources.list or something
[08:34] <martijn_> cool thanks
[08:34] <MyNameIsChris> woot, my first ubuntu answer
[08:34] <martijn_> woot my first ubuntu boot :')
[08:34] <MyNameIsChris> martijn_: You are the first of hopefully many
[08:34] <MyNameIsChris> My second ubuntu day
[08:34] <waseem> crimsun: any idea of what i can do now/
[08:35] <martijn_> another question, when I plugin my external hdd (usb2.0) it popsups all 3 partitions, but only 1 shows up on desktop :\
[08:35] <crimsun> waseem: I have no idea what you're trying to do, since I asked if you're trying to record from it, and you answered "no"
[08:35] <TomAraya> crimsun, thanks!
[08:35] <waseem> crimsun: im not trying to record anything using my microphone, my speaker isnt working. thats the problem
[08:35] <cg0def_> is is possible to use fam instead of gamin?
[08:37] <crimsun> waseem: you don't have any outputs according to amixer.
[08:37] <crimsun> waseem: only input.
[08:39] <martijn_> upgrading goes by typing this right ? : apt-get upgrade
[08:39] <crimsun> martijn_: you need to update first
[08:40] <martijn_> and then run upgrade ?
[08:41] <crimsun> yep
[08:41] <martijn_> coolies thank you :)
[08:43] <TomAraya> I'd like to try a linux game, are there any good RTS games that are free?
[08:43] <StoffBox-Steve> someone know what KDE package i need to control Fontsize in "kopete" ?
[08:43] <delltony> ok evidently i'm missing a repository somewhere trying to get my system back up again after it borked on me where can i find the w32codec package please
[08:44] <TomAraya> delltony, I used ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[08:45] <delltony> just add it to the repository?
[08:45] <delltony> or went direct?
[08:45] <TomAraya> Yeah, I just added it into Synaptic.
[08:46] <TomAraya> Apparently that's the one that people recommend for mplayer too, but I'm still getting dependency issues.
[08:46] <delltony> yeah that was it i forgot about that addition thanks
[08:46] <TomAraya> No problem, delltony.
[08:47] <MyNameIsChris> jdub: I got xine and dvd playback working, thanks
[08:47] <MyNameIsChris> But sound is really bad
[08:47] <delltony> i know its common on dev release to have to reinstall but regardless it still pisses me off :)
[08:47] <delltony> but hopefully ill be able to smoothly go to array 5 to array 6 but i'm not totally willing to bet yet :p
[08:48] <Mestapheles> hi
[08:48] <goldfish> hai
[08:48] <delltony> hey tom can you tell me exactly how your sources.list reads in regard to addition of marillat please?
[08:48] <Mestapheles> does gnome usually use png for wallpaper?
[08:50] <Mestapheles> I just transfered over apple wallpaper.  I noticed it is jpegs but I', paranoid about jpeg so I thuoght I'd convert them to png
[08:51] <Mestapheles> although I know gnome handles jpegs just fine
[08:51] <delltony> here we go i got it
[08:52] <Zotnix> png is supported for wallpaper
[08:53] <delltony> GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[08:53] <delltony>  you get that when using marillat?
[08:53] <guru> is there a way to prevent :(){ :|:&};: when executed as a normal user from taking up all of the system cpu time?
[08:53] <scorpix> i deleted the bottom panel, and add new one, and when i open any folder and minimize it, it doesnt appear in the panel, how can fix it?
[08:53] <jdub> daejavu: that's just a warning
[08:53] <jdub> er
[08:53] <jdub> delltony: that's just a warning
[08:53] <delltony> ok
[08:54] <goldfish> G SPOT !
[08:54] <Zotnix> o.O
[08:54] <Zotnix> Nah. f-spot
[08:54] <TomAraya> I'd like to try a linux game, are there any good RTS games that are free that anyone could recommend?
[08:55] <delltony> thats a good questionw here can you find free linux games other than the ones that come installed?
[08:56] <geppy> delltony: Try the gaming forum at ubuntuforums.com
[08:56] <geppy> TomAraya:  The strategus-based games are pretty nice
[08:56] <Zotnix> Hmmm.. snazzy
[08:56] <delltony> ok will do
[08:56] <delltony> thanks
[08:56] <Zotnix> (f-spot that is)
[08:56] <TomAraya> delltony, the sticky post on that forum has a bunch of suggestions.
[08:56] <TomAraya> None are RTS though.
[08:57] <TomAraya> Well, one is, but the game was very, very VERY dated looking.
[08:57] <TomAraya> Plus the controls didn't work properly.
[08:57] <zenrox> TomAraya, install freeciv
[08:57] <Zotnix> Ah
[08:57] <Zotnix> now I do
[08:57] <TomAraya> zenrox: That's a good game, but it's still not a RTS though. Turn based.
[08:58] <TomAraya> Zotnix, real time strategy. EG: Warcraft, Starcraft
[08:58] <zenrox> TomAraya,  or freecraft
[08:58] <geppy> freecraft is crap
[08:58] <delltony> maybe i'm overlooking something i see no gaming forum on ubuntuforums.org
[08:58] <zenrox> geppy, but it works
[08:58] <geppy> delltony:  try the search option
[08:58] <jeffola> hey guys, when i try to boot x, it says something about Xauth fails
[08:58] <geppy> zenrox:  Only if you have pre-BNE warII, right?
[08:59] <zenrox> geppy, hu??
[08:59] <geppy> zenrox:  I never really got into freecraft, once I found strategus (which I think evolved from it)
[08:59] <geppy> zenrox:  The original freecraft was only intended to allow you to play Warcraft II on Linux
[08:59] <zenrox> geppy,  i only play nwn gold +hotu
[08:59] <TomAraya> I'm going to check out strategus.
[08:59] <delltony> ok here we go yeah i thinking it was a main header ok good deal thanks again
[08:59] <geppy> zenrox:  Ah, alright.
[09:00] <zenrox> its an awsome game specaly online
[09:00] <zenrox> its onole of the only games i bought
[09:00] <jeffola> any ideas
[09:00] <geppy> zenrox: Is it a recurring charge?
[09:00] <zenrox> i also play croumium
[09:00] <zenrox> geppy,  nope
[09:00] <geppy> zenrox:  Hmm... I might buy it, it looks awfully pretty.
[09:00] <zenrox> Chromium
[09:00] <geppy> zenrox:  Does it have LAN play?
[09:01] <geppy> zenrox:  That's really the only time that I play games.
[09:01] <zenrox> geppy,  and it plays in linux nativly
[09:01] <membreya> hmmm will gaim ever have support for receiving webcam ???
[09:01] <geppy> zenrox:  I know. =)
[09:01] <zenrox> and does play on lan
[09:01] <geppy> membreya:  No.
[09:01] <geppy> zenrox:  mmm...
[09:01] <membreya> GAH! :(
[09:01] <TomAraya> Hmm, strategus isn't in the repositories I have. Any idea what repository I could use in order to get Strategus?
[09:01] <zenrox> membreya,  maby down the road
[09:01] <membreya> don't care about sending it ..but would love to receive it
[09:01] <TomAraya> Googling for 'strategus repository' doesn't seem to help
[09:02] <geppy> membreya:  There are some GAIM forks that attempt to provide it, but why not just use GNOMEmeeting?  It interfaces nicely with whatever the Microsoft counterpart is.
[09:02] <jeffola> hey guys, when i try to boot x, it says something about Xauth fails
[09:02] <delltony> err you know something i really hate is the fact that k3b puts that kcontrol crap on yoru menu :( but if you uninstall the kcontrol it uninstalls k3b
[09:02] <membreya> geppy: cos that means getting the other person to learn how to use netmeeting
[09:02] <geppy> delltony:  Then remove the stuff from your menu...
[09:02] <geppy> membreya:  heh, yeah, that kind of sucks
[09:02] <geppy> membreya:  But that is your only real option, as far as I know =/
[09:03] <delltony> its not so easy in hoary gotta find the right desktop file
[09:03] <geppy> argh
[09:03] <geppy> it's two in the morning, I'd better get back to configging Gallery so that I can get to admin
[09:03] <delltony> later
[09:03] <zenrox> night geppy
[09:04] <membreya> night gep
[09:04] <delltony> good thing for dpkg -L so i can find the desktop files haha :) i'm slowly but surely learning this stuff ;)
[09:05] <zenrox> delltony,  good
[09:05] <zenrox> once you learn you can teach someone else
[09:05] <delltony> yeah i try to help out when i can
[09:05] <delltony> but id rather give no info than bad info
[09:05] <zenrox> me too
[09:05] <tuxJr_14> hi
[09:05] <zenrox> hello
[09:06] <delltony> however id make a gui for adding menu's to hoary which i hope helped out
[09:06] <zenrox> delltony, we need a gui for dual montiors
[09:06] <delltony> now that would rock
[09:06] <zenrox> ya
[09:06] <delltony> i have yet ot get my tvout to work though
[09:07] <delltony> man i seen this picture not sure where its out now but get this
[09:07] <tuxJr_14> hi zenrox
[09:07] <zenrox> i have 2 vid cards bolth nvidias and i cant get them to play nice
[09:07] <delltony> this guy had like 20 something monitors playing flight simulator
[09:07] <zenrox> lol
[09:07] <delltony> and they all had a different segment of the screen it was kick ass
[09:07] <tuxJr_14> heyrhett, are fedora's system-config thingies open?
[09:07] <crimsun> zenrox: asked in #nvidia/
[09:07] <zenrox> now thats a good one
[09:08] <scorpix> i deleted the bottom panel, and add new one, and when i open any folder and minimize it, it doesnt appear in the panel, how can fix it?
[09:08] <tuxJr_14> we can get them into ubuntu
[09:08] <tuxJr_14> they're good
[09:08] <membreya> delltony: why can't you get tv out to work ?
[09:09] <delltony> not sure can't figure out how to make it switch the display is the main thing
[09:09] <delltony> i plugged it in and tested and it outputs but its like its in pal
[09:09] <delltony> and flickers really bad
[09:11] <membreya> delltony: so change Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B" to NTSC
[09:11] <delltony> where in xorg?
[09:11] <delltony> sorry i'm not really familar with it to be honest
[09:11] <TomAraya> Hmm, strategus isn't in the repositories I have. Any idea what repository I could use in order to get Strategus?
[09:21] <Micksa> hey guys
[09:22] <Micksa> I just installed warty via pxeboot
[09:22] <Micksa> and it's locked me out of root!
[09:22] <Micksa> not even sudo from the user account works.
[09:28] <jdub> Micksa: boot into recovery mode
[09:28] <goldfish> tried su ?
[09:31] <tuxJr_14> TomAraya, try the debian repositories
[09:32] <TomAraya> tuxJr_14, I'll check it out.
[09:32] <TomAraya> Thanks.
[09:36] <Micksa> jdub: I can get past it, bit is this normal behavior?
[09:37] <jdub> Micksa: i'm sure you'd consider it unlikely
[09:39] <Micksa> well, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root doesn't mention recovery mode
[09:40] <jdub> obviously something has gone wrong, so i've suggested a way to get into the system to fix it
[09:40] <monoxide> is there a date set for the final release of hoary yet?
[09:41] <goldfish> april
[09:41] <goldfish> 4th
[09:41] <goldfish> or something
[09:41] <dolson_> aren't all the release dates already set?
[09:42] <jdub> monoxide: www.ubuntu.com/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule
[09:42] <jdub> dates set before we even started
[09:42] <monoxide> ohhh... these programers work to schedule??? :P
[09:43] <dolson_> every 6 months
[09:48] <heyrhett> how do i know?
[09:50] <Harnak> For those of you ubuntu experts, how closely updated  are the AMD64 and the I386 packages kept?
[09:52] <cafuego> Harnak: let me see.
[09:52] <Harnak> Thanks Cafuego!
[09:53] <cafuego> Ah hold on, my ia32 chroot is still warty, not hoary.
[09:54] <cafuego> Dunno then
[09:55] <Harnak> thanks anyway ;)0
[09:56] <deepsight> does anybody has an external usb HDD conected to a usb 1.1 and hear music/videos from there without clicking?
[09:58] <deepsight> i mean click as in sound click not as in mouse click
[10:11] <StoffBox-Steve> ahh i go crazy, someone one who to save a website with firefox over more than one level ?
[10:13] <d3vic3> http://img95.exs.cx/img95/272/mozillaadware4vs.png go go microsoft
[10:14] <Tomcat_> d3vic3: Fake though :)
[10:17] <d3vic3> I thought so
[10:32] <marcin_> hi - any network guru here?
[10:32] <marcin_> I got a problem with ppp connection - could someone help me?
[10:35] <zenrox> ok so i cant have dual montors then
[10:37] <prego> Is hoary's kernel patched for packet-writting?
[10:40] <MyNameIsChris> Can someone please verify my existence?
[10:41] <lunitik> MyNameIsChris: sure
[10:41] <MyNameIsChris> Thanks
[10:41] <lunitik> zenrox: you can, look into xinerama
[10:42] <MyNameIsChris> I am having some problems with my connection, what would be the ubuntu equivalent of service network restart?
[10:42] <zenrox> lunitik,  i have
[10:42] <lunitik> invoke-rc.d network restart
[10:42] <zenrox> but it dont like my setup
[10:42] <MyNameIsChris> Thanks again
[10:43] <lunitik> zenrox: maybe try tweaking it?
[10:43] <zenrox> was talking in #nvidia and got help and it still dont work
[10:43] <zenrox> lunitik, its 2 nvidia cards
[10:43] <zenrox> single head on each
[10:43] <lunitik> MyNameIsChris: of course, you can always just use '/etc/init.d/network restart'...
[10:43] <MyNameIsChris> That'll do
[10:43] <MyNameIsChris> Considering the last command didn't work
[10:43] <MyNameIsChris> zenrox: SLI?
[10:43] <zenrox> MyNameIsChris, no
[10:44] <MyNameIsChris> Oh
[10:44] <zenrox> pci and one agp
[10:44] <MyNameIsChris> Okay
[10:44] <zenrox> 1 pci fx5200 (pri vidcard) 2 agp tnt2 secandary
[10:44] <lunitik> MyNameIsChris: gah... 'invoke-rc.d networking restart'
[10:45] <MyNameIsChris> Yeah, I got that on my own, thanks for the initial guidance
[10:45] <zenrox> point the newbies in to the right direction
[10:45] <zenrox> lol
[10:45] <zenrox> welp off to bed
[10:45] <MyNameIsChris> Fedora pro, ubuntu noob
[10:45] <MyNameIsChris> It's not fair
[10:46] <zenrox> brain is fried trying to get dual head worken
[10:46] <TongMaster> MyNameIsChris, in Debian / Ubuntu, all services are in /etc/init.d/
[10:46] <lunitik> MyNameIsChris: If you are familier with Fedora... I really don't think its practical to learn Ubuntu...
[10:46] <lunitik> TongMaster: I think he gathered that much  :/   he wanted to equiv. command
[10:47] <chase> does anyone have a list of apt sources? the only ones i have are the default installed packages and im looking for other places to download from
[10:47] <lunitik> MyNameIsChris: I'd be using Fedora if I was more familier with Red Hat systems  :/
[10:47] <MyNameIsChris> chase: ubuntuguide.org
[10:47] <chase> thanks
[10:47] <deepsight> hallou, does anybody knows if there is something wrong if i try to listen mp3s from an HDD conected trough an external cradle and it makes 'click' sounds
[10:47] <TongMaster> lunitik, I'm familiar with both, You can keep Fedora / RHEL and friends
[10:47] <MyNameIsChris> I was told to try Ubuntu and I am enjoying it, I did have some very minor Debian experience
[10:48] <lunitik> TongMaster: Ubuntu tools can't compete with system-config-*
[10:48] <MyNameIsChris> system-config-* made life alot easier
[10:48] <MyNameIsChris> except a few of them are very underpowered
[10:49] <TongMaster> very.
[10:49] <lunitik> MyNameIsChris: indeed, but likely those tools don't even have a comparison tool
[10:49] <TongMaster> RH based systems are crack to administer. I remove them all very quickly from clients.
[10:52] <MyNameIsChris> Does anyone use msn instant messaging, if so, is it currently down?
[10:53] <stvn> @i can't connect
[10:53] <NicP> works for me
[10:53] <lunitik> MyNameIsChris: it appears to be, yes... error 10 according to server... no idea what that means
[10:53] <MyNameIsChris> I cannot connect
[10:53] <lunitik> NicP: then don't log out for a while  ;)
[10:54] <NicP> are u all using gaim?
[10:54] <MyNameIsChris> I am
[10:54] <MyNameIsChris> gaim = friend
[10:55] <lunitik> NicP: nope... kopete
[10:55] <NicP> i'm using msn
[10:55] <NicP> maybe microsoft finally locked out linux users ;
[10:55] <joeblow> MyNameIsChris: I am on with amsn right now
[10:55] <NicP> ;)
[10:55] <MyNameIsChris> I don't like amsn
[10:56] <MyNameIsChris> They wouldn't dare
[10:56] <daniels> i think the conclusion here is 'msn's working alright'
[10:56] <MyNameIsChris> All my friends use msn
[10:56] <joeblow> amsn has the best support for things like display pics, i found that when new users added me in gaim i wouldnt get notifications, i logged in with amsn 20 days after i quit my old job and noticed that 10 people had added me and gaim had never told me
[10:56] <MyNameIsChris> http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx
[10:57] <lunitik> daniels: good morning/afternoon/night  :)
[10:57] <MyNameIsChris> "All systems are stable and running."
[10:57] <TomAraya> Yeah, my Gaim has been connected all day, no problems.
[10:57] <monoxide> MyNameIsChris, i am on msn fine
[10:57] <membreya> i rebooted, and now my gaim won't connect
[10:58] <NicP> i doknt know anyone on aim
[10:58] <NicP> i didnt know people actually used it
[10:58] <monoxide> NicP, all the AOL users ;)
[10:58] <NicP> i dont speak to those people
[10:58] <NicP> :P
[10:58] <lunitik> NicP: where are you? I have one contact thats not on AIM...
[10:58] <deepsight> connection refused on msn
[10:58] <joeblow> I only know one person who uses AIM, and they only use it like once a month
[10:58] <NicP> australia
[10:59] <MyNameIsChris> Me too
[10:59] <lunitik> NicP: hmm... maybe AIM never got popular there...
[10:59] <monoxide> NicP, noone here uses aim as far as i know
[10:59] <MyNameIsChris> MS hate the Aussies
[10:59] <joeblow> In Canada no one uses AIM
[10:59] <monoxide> MyNameIsChris, ty very much, but im an aussie on gaim and msn
[10:59] <deepsight> The .NET Messenger Service is temporarily experiencing difficulty. You may be unable to sign in. Please try again later.
[10:59] <NicP> i thought aim was 15 yo people on aol
[10:59] <membreya> deepsight: where'd you get that one ?
[10:59] <MyNameIsChris> Oh, so it is just me they hate
[11:00] <delltony> anyone know where on the wiki the informatino on installing mplayer is since the package appears to be broken. i had it working before but can't remember how i did it :(
[11:00] <deepsight> same page
[11:00] <deepsight>  http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx
[11:00] <delltony> hey membreya
[11:00] <NicP> where are u guys from
[11:00] <NicP> in australia
[11:00] <joeblow> delltony: compile it from source
[11:00] <membreya> melbourne, aus
[11:00] <MyNameIsChris> Oh dear, I just set up evolution and realised it is downloading all my archived emails
[11:00] <deepsight> here in finland
[11:00] <monoxide> < AUS
[11:00] <MyNameIsChris> sydney
[11:00] <joeblow> delltony: thats what i did and it works great
[11:01] <delltony> ok where about is the source files ?
[11:01] <membreya> web messenger lets me log in
[11:01] <MyNameIsChris> Whoah, I just watched the status message change
[11:01] <joeblow> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
[11:01] <joeblow> there are also instructions there
[11:01] <delltony> thanks
[11:02] <delltony> you using the pre6a source?
[11:02] <lunitik> membreya: since when did MSN have a web messenger?
[11:02] <NicP> for ages
[11:02] <taner_> hi ..
[11:02] <deepsight> ages indeed
[11:02] <lunitik> Oh... shows how much I follow them then huh
[11:02] <MyNameIsChris> Point me to this web messenger
[11:03] <taner_> i have a problem?
[11:03] <NicP> webmessenger.msn.com
[11:03] <NicP> or something
[11:03] <taner_> anyone help me?
[11:03] <joeblow> delltony: yes...it works fairly good on ubuntu....make sure you have the gtk devel packages installed, and then when you run configure on the mplayer source, type it in like this    ./configure --enable-gui
[11:03] <lunitik> taner_: if you ask us the question maybe
[11:03] <NicP> hey i was right too
[11:03] <NicP> :D
[11:03] <delltony> ok will do
[11:03] <delltony> trying now
[11:04] <taner_> lunitik: i do not mount hda7 from windows partition
[11:04] <taner_> i want media and programs at the ubuntu
[11:05] <joeblow> delltony: i probably wont be on but there are instructions at www.ubuntuguide.org if u get stuck on something
[11:05] <MyNameIsChris> Browser not supported by web messenger
[11:05] <lunitik> taner_: ntfs?
[11:05] <delltony> i'm installing it now ;)
[11:05] <taner_> i write mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/media
[11:05] <taner_> but media is no such file or directory
[11:06] <lunitik> taner_: yeah... umm... /mnt isn't used anymore
[11:06] <taner_> no fa32
[11:06] <taner_> no fat32
[11:06] <delltony> joeblow, by the way thanks
[11:06] <joeblow> no prob
[11:06] <lunitik> taner_: 'mkdir /media/win && mount -t vfat /dev/hda7 /media/win'
[11:06] <taner_> ?
[11:06] <joeblow> you might want to install ffmpeg too   http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net
[11:07] <delltony> if anyone runs across someone running hoary and a dell inspiron 9100 lappy please send them my way i want to know how to get that tvout working
[11:07] <taner_> thanks bro.
[11:07] <taner_> :)
[11:07] <membreya> MyNameIsChris: it still works :)
[11:07] <delltony> ffmeg? whats that never heard of that
[11:08] <MyNameIsChris> membreya: I will try, thanks
[11:08] <membreya> you'll need to allow pop ups
[11:08] <delltony> membreya, thanks for trying on that tvout thing but it didn't work :(
[11:08] <joeblow> delltony: not sure, some kind of server software for streaming audio/video but it adds support for wma and wmv in mplayer if im not mistaken. the Mplayer website recommends installing it
[11:09] <delltony> oh ok probably so bill and his buddies can prompt you for a password for those stupid ass drm files
[11:10] <joeblow> delltony: i have it installed and i never have that happen
[11:10] <joeblow> it is a gpl'd program, it is not MS' program
[11:10] <joeblow> its development is hosted by the mplayer team
[11:10] <delltony> those things get on my nerves i pay for content on a site and then download the files thinking its all good cause they say i can then after like a month or whatever it requires you to login to play the files cause of drm
[11:11] <delltony> joeblow, thats cool scratch what i was saying i'm thinking something different
[11:12] <MyNameIsChris> gaim works
[11:12] <delltony> i know one thing and i can say this for a fact, if you think you know computers you don't know jack till you run linux. it really makes you truelly get to know your pc well
[11:12] <MyNameIsChris> woohoo
[11:12] <delltony> at least thats my experience
[11:12] <MyNameIsChris> false alarm, sent password, died
[11:13] <stvn> works now
[11:14] <MyNameIsChris> Not for me
[11:15] <delltony> well cool li click on mplayer and get nada i love it :)
[11:16] <delltony> hmm gmplayer has yet to work on here oh well
[11:16] <lunitik> delltony: just use the command line tool  :)
[11:16] <delltony> as in gmplayer on #?
[11:17] <lunitik> delltony: no... 'mplayer'
[11:17] <lunitik> delltony: configure via '/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf'
[11:17] <delltony> for the gui?
 i know one thing and i can say this for a fact, if you think you know computers you don't know jack till you run linux. it really makes you truelly get to know your pc well
[11:19] <NicP> this is probably similar to the fact that in order to understand language it helps to learn another language
[11:19] <beezly> we used to argue all the time
[11:19] <bascule> it returns the fun to computing :)
[11:19] <beezly> it was terrible
[11:19] <deusx_> hello guys
[11:19] <delltony> thats true but gives you a headache while learning :)
[11:19] <bascule> that is the fun
[11:19] <delltony> and lunitik mplayer.conf doesn't exist
[11:20] <delltony> even after doing updatedb and locate mplayer.conf
[11:20] <bascule> does mplayer exist?
[11:20] <delltony> yep
[11:20] <deusx_> i got lots of previously downloaded packages backed up and copied into /var/cache/apt/archives ... how do I install them ?
[11:20] <bascule> run it off the shell, what does it complain about
[11:20] <beezly> Deus: if they are up-to-date compared to your apt archives, just do apt-get install <blah>
[11:20] <MyNameIsChris> gaim works
[11:20] <MyNameIsChris> truly
[11:21] <bascule> yes it is rather nice the gaim thingy
[11:21] <delltony> hope this is not to big of a post but here is what i get when i run gmplayer
[11:21] <delltony> vo: X11 running at 1680x1050 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)
[11:21] <delltony> Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[11:21] <delltony> Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.
[11:21] <delltony> [skin]  file ( /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin/default/skin ) not found.
[11:21] <delltony> Skin not found (default).
[11:22] <deusx_> beezly, but apt-get does not find those packages
[11:22] <bascule> apt-get install mpkayer-skins .. ?
[11:22] <Kirilis> Hi all!
[11:22] <bascule> mplayer-skins*
[11:22] <Kirilis> i am new on Ubuntu and have some problem
[11:22] <deepsight> comments on programming symbian on linux, is it much more difficult if learning?
[11:22] <Kirilis> with Nvidia
[11:22] <deusx_> i have to somehow let him now they are there
[11:23] <delltony> ok this is starting to suck i must have a repository missing
[11:23] <beezly> hm, odd
[11:23] <delltony> i can't find mozilla-mplayer either
[11:23] <bascule> delltony: it was a guess dude
[11:23] <delltony> and i had all this working just fine on my first attempt of hoary
[11:23] <delltony> same array and all
[11:23] <bascule> oh mozilla-mplyer should exist |I think
[11:23] <delltony> yeah what repository?
[11:24] <bascule> 2 secs
[11:24] <delltony> you running hoary?
[11:24] <bascule> yes
[11:24] <lunitik> delltony: its in multiverse
[11:24] <bascule> thanks
[11:24] <lunitik> I beleive for warty also...
[11:24] <delltony> hmm hang on
[11:25] <Kirilis> so how to install Nvidzia driver ?
[11:25] <Kirilis> *Nvidia
[11:25] <lunitik> Kirilis: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:26] <delltony> lunitik, you have the exact thing to add to sources.list by chance? all i see in terms of multiverse is the backports
[11:26] <membreya> Kirilis: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:26] <Kirilis> membreya: cant find i tryed
[11:26] <membreya> Kirilis: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[11:26] <membreya> add some repo's :)
[11:26] <membreya> has anyone gotten gaim to log in yet??
[11:27] <lunitik> delltony: the line that states 'universe' in sources.list... add multiverse
[11:27] <Kirilis> thx a lot
[11:27] <membreya> mine got to auth'ing then died >:(
[11:29] <delltony> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse ?
[11:29] <lunitik> delltony: should work... I don't usually have the 'us' part though  :/
[11:30] <lunitik> delltony: yup... that works
[11:30] <delltony> delltony@bubbabox:~$ sudo apt-get update
[11:30] <delltony> Password:
[11:30] <delltony> E: Malformed line 27 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI)
[11:30] <delltony> nevermind
[11:30] <delltony> i had a typo in there
[11:30] <lunitik> membreya: look again at MSN status.
[11:32] <Skid> anyone familiar with 1394 dv capture? dvgrab is saying no cameras exist, yet gscanbus shows the node, etc?
[11:34] <delltony> someone mentioned mplayer-skins where is that at?
[11:35] <membreya> lunitik: what's this required security update????
[11:36] <lunitik> membreya: who knows... hopefully its server side though
[11:37] <membreya> i don't wanna go to webmessenger
[11:37] <membreya> is amsn working?
[11:37] <membreya> but again I don't like it
[11:37] <membreya> i can sign in perfectly with web messenger
[11:38] <lunitik> membreya: cool... but even Microsoft says its down, so yeah
[11:38] <membreya> how dare they provide a shitty free service! :P
[11:38] <membreya> i want my no money back!
[11:39] <deepsight> lol
[11:39] <lunitik> membreya: gah... drop it... its old... you know whats wrong...
[11:39] <deepsight> if you are in the states maybe you can sue or something
[11:39] <deepsight> then you get some money
[11:39] <membreya> trying to bring a light side to it lunitik :P plus it's not old for me cos im outta here every 2 minutes watching law and order :P
[11:44] <deusx_> i want to do some update with apt-get. i have all needed packs on the hard drive. how can i determine apt-get NOT to download from the web, but from my drive?
[11:45] <Tomcat_> deusx_: Put the packages in /var/cache/apt/ or something
[11:45] <deusx_> allready there
[11:45] <Tomcat_> deusx_: These are packages that apt wants to download, right?
[11:45] <membreya> deusx_: you need to make your own repo file..or if you want to install ALL the updates you have in a folder just do a sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:46] <Tomcat_> Because if apt doesn't want to update, the only way I know of is to install with dpkg, as membreya said.
[11:46] <deusx_> thanks
[11:46] <deusx_> that's what i'm gonna do
[11:46] <psf> hello there!
[11:46] <welly> Hello all, hows it going? is it possible to install ubuntu using a floppy disc to boot and then the packages are found on a hard drive?
[11:47] <Tomcat_> welly: I think the best way would be to boot from floppy, then start install from cd...
[11:48] <raghu> welly: use bootdisk ...remove bootloaders(grub)
[11:48] <welly> hmm ok.. that might work.. i'm having real problems installing from a cd.. my machine is pretty old (it was kindly donated by my boss) so i'm not sure if the cdrom is bust or the cd is burnt incorrectly
[11:48] <welly> but i'm getting all kinds of crc errors
[11:50] <sleeper> hi
[11:50] <sleeper> how i start lirc?
[11:50] <deusx_> is it wise to run dpkg -i *.deb in a directory with more than 500 packs?
[11:51] <deusx_> will i have to wait a year? :P
[11:51] <lunitik> deusx_: sure... might take a while though
[11:51] <deusx_> thanks
[11:51] <sleeper> please i need some help
[11:51] <membreya> deusx_:  as I said ...if you are sure you want to install them all
[11:51] <sleeper> how i use lirc?
[11:51] <lunitik> membreya: they likely wouldn't be in his archive if he didn't want them  ;)
[11:52] <lunitik> sleeper: if we knew, we'd have told you by now...
[11:52] <sleeper> ok thx
[11:52] <delltony> dang gmplayer just hates me for some reason even from source but mplayer works fine just no gui even with the enable-gui pass
[11:52] <TomAraya> What's the media player that starts with the letter V?
[11:53] <lunitik> TomAraya: vmplayer?
[11:53] <welly> sleeper, how do you use lirc? install it, point your remote control at a receiver and press buttons
[11:53] <TomAraya> lunitik, the one I'm trying to think of is only three letters. I just downloaded a wmv file, and totem won't play it.
[11:53] <lunitik> TomAraya: vlc
[11:54] <TomAraya> Right! Thanks.
[11:54] <membreya> vlc
[11:54] <membreya> damnit lunitik
[11:54] <membreya> lemme catch up on conversations!
[11:54] <membreya> :P
[11:54] <lunitik> TomAraya: mplayer > vlc though
[11:54] <TomAraya> Yeah, I can't get mplayer to install unfortunately.
[11:54] <membreya> gaim works now :D
[11:54] <lunitik> membreya: *cough* noonecares *cough*
[11:55] <membreya> do too :P I know you do ..deep down lunitik
[11:55] <membreya> you're in #gaim ..how can you not care :P
[11:56] <psf> anyone can help with one question? is there any relation between ubuntu and morphix live-cds?
[11:57] <delltony> anyone make any use of this
[11:57] <delltony> Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[11:57] <delltony> Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts.
[11:57] <delltony> MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: unknown
[11:57] <johnnybezak> TomAraya: i know your pain
[11:58] <sleeper> welly i instaled. How i point it?
[11:58] <welly> ?
[11:58] <TomAraya> johnnybezak: It can be a little frustrating to say the least.
[11:59] <sleeper> welly i instaled lirc with synaptic but i dont know who start it
[11:59] <welly> i don't know either
[12:00] <sleeper> mmmmm i dont find information in google
[12:00] <membreya> hmmmmm what resolution do people run their console's at at boot?
[12:00] <membreya> aside from default
[12:01] <maLKoc> console=terminal,isn't it?
[12:01] <membreya> ya you know what I mean :)
[12:01] <maLKoc> :)
[12:02] <maLKoc> i love ubuntu :)
[12:04] <membreya> ubuntu doesn't use xinetd.conf does it ?
[12:04] <lunitik> membreya: it does
[12:05] <membreya> no wonder my hotwayd isn't working :P
[12:05] <membreya> lol
[12:05] <lunitik> membreya: wait... no... it uses netbase-inetd I think
[12:07] <lunitik> gah... inetd for serving servers that shouldn't be up all the time (for instance ftp..)
[12:07] <lunitik> What is that called.... this is gonna bug me  :(
[12:07] <membreya> i need to run hotwayd at all times :)
[12:07] <sharke> hello
[12:07] <membreya> hi sharke :)
[12:08] <lunitik> membreya: you'd use inetd for that (xinetd branched from inetd due to disagreements etc)
[12:09] <lunitik> membreya: Red Hat and friends use Xinetd, Debian and friends use Inetd
[12:09] <sharke> anyone using hoary
[12:09] <lifeless> lunitik: debian packages both.
[12:10] <lunitik> lifeless: eh... if I recall, something that xinetd depends on depends netbase-inetd ... wasteful having both installed
[12:10] <membreya> lifeless: so if I add lines to xinetd and then hup it ...it will load the server?
[12:10] <lunitik> lifeless: one of the more brain-damaged depends imo
[12:11] <lunitik> eh... netkit-inetd ... but yeah... xinetd depends netbase, depends netkit-inetd ... annoying
[12:12] <klashniv> I downloaded ubuntu using jigdo, the instructions to do it weren't very clear but I managed
[12:12] <klashniv> I would like to share my experience with others, where can I send the instructions
[12:13] <cef> the wiki is probably the best place
[12:13] <Alex1> hi
[12:13] <lunitik> klashniv: sign up for an account on the wiki, and maybe make a new page... or edit the one that wasn't that great?
[12:13] <sharke> hello alex
[12:13] <klashniv> thanks, will look at the wiki, do I have to join or sign up or is it public editable
[12:14] <klashniv> sorry, question was answered
[12:14] <Alex1> someone can help me to set different wallpapers in each workin area pls?
[12:14] <lunitik> Alex1: can't be done afaik
[12:14] <cef> you need an account for the wiki, but it's just a simple rego and get a password to login, then you can edit
[12:14] <klashniv> ok
[12:15] <Alex1> lunitik, are you sure? it's strange :s
[12:15] <membreya> hrm..installed hotwayd but it's not giving me the right logins
[12:15] <membreya> ie when I telnet it's not giving me the greeting
[12:15] <klashniv> anyone been able to download hoary using jigdo?
[12:15] <sharke> klashniv how about a howto on ubuntu forums
[12:15] <delltony> anyone here been able to get gmplayer to work on hoary i'm having issues ;) as in no worky worky
[12:16] <klashniv> will try wiki first
[12:16] <Alex1> i ask again: someone can help me to set different wallpapers in each workin area pls?
[12:16] <lifeless> membreya: yes, hup xinted majes it reload IIRC.
[12:16] <selinium_> hi all, I have tried to update to hoary but now there are loads of packages in synaptic that are upgradable but missing files eg: libwxgtk2.4. I am not sure my sources.list is complete.  Any help gratefullly received
[12:17] <klashniv> had always downloaded and updated debian isos using jigdo, is ubuntu going to use it much?
[12:17] <daniels> klashniv: jigdo works for me
[12:17] <sharke> selinium try upgrading again
[12:18] <delltony> gmplayer hates me haha
[12:18] <daniels> (i build my own isos from my local mirror)
[12:18] <klashniv> as far as I can tell hoary still can't be downloaded via jigdo, unless someone discovered how?
[12:18] <klashniv> daniels, on hoary or warty?
[12:18] <freetech> hey
[12:18] <freetech> :)
[12:19] <selinium_> sharke: i will give it a go!
[12:19] <membreya> hrm, it's not loading hotwayd :| ...will keep bashin :)
[12:19] <klashniv> Alex1: are you referring to workspaces?
[12:19] <sharke> good luck
[12:20] <Alex1> yes
[12:20] <Alex1> i want to put 4 differents wallpaper
[12:20] <Alex1> one for each workspace
[12:20] <Alex1> if it is possibile
[12:20] <TomAraya> night
[12:20] <sharke> Alex1 not possible
[12:20] <membreya> gaaah why isn't it loading @!#!@~#(
[12:21] <Alex1> sharke, is it a metacity limit?
[12:23] <jdub> Alex1: gnome doesn't support it yet; it's something that, if designed well, would almost immediately be committed
[12:23] <jdub> but no one's done it
[12:23] <mjr> what I'd like was proper xinerama support for backgrounds
[12:24] <mjr> at least so that there could be the same maximized image on both screens
[12:24] <daniels> klashniv: hoary
[12:24] <daniels> klashniv: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/jigit/
[12:24] <mjr> as it stands, I've a 1280x960 screen and a 1600x1200 screen, and I can't use the human backgrounds properly :I
[12:25] <daniels> klashniv: and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/array-5/ contains a bunch of jigdo templates -- I don't see the problem?
[12:25] <klashniv> daniels: templates are fine, its where to locate the actual files that is the problem
[12:25] <daniels> klashniv: which 'actual files'?
[12:25] <daniels> klashniv: do you mean the debs?
[12:26] <Alex1> bye
[12:26] <klashniv> jigdo downloads individual files and recreates the iso locally
[12:26] <daniels> klashniv: yes, so what you are are looking for is the debs?
[12:26] <delltony> anyone have a minute to help me with mplayer please more specific what does this mean when running gmplayer Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
[12:26] <daniels> in that case, it's just the same ubuntu mirror you use
[12:26] <klashniv> yes, the debs
[12:26] <daniels> for me, this is /home/daniels/mirror/ubuntu
[12:26] <daniels> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ then
[12:26] <daniels> i'm positive this is documented somewhere
[12:27] <klashniv> its not, at least I couldn't find it
[12:28] <klashniv> doesn't http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ contain the old (warty) debs?
[12:28] <selinium_> sharke: Is it worth burnning an iso of hoary and installing from that?
[12:28] <daniels> klashniv: why would it contain warty and not hoary?
[12:29] <daniels> klashniv: check it out for yourself at that same URL, it loads in any web browser
[12:29] <sharke> selinium: i did dist upgrade from warty all ok
[12:29] <klashniv> daniels: I will try pointing jigdo to there using the hoary template and see what it says
[12:30] <daniels> klashniv: that was probably worth trying first
[12:30] <selinium_> sharke: Can you give me your sources.list file, I am not sure mine is right
[12:30] <klashniv> daniels: its the method I used to download warty so I figured it contained warty debs
[12:31] <selinium_> klashniv: both debs are there, read, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#upgradewartytohoary
[12:31] <membreya> hmmm stupid question..should inetd.conf be executable? :P
[12:31] <membreya> feel free to slap me
[12:31] <membreya> but I can't get hotwayd to start
[12:31] <membreya> and it's driving me berk
[12:32] <sharke> selinium:# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[12:32] <sharke> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[12:32] <sharke> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[12:32] <sharke> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[12:33] <klashniv> selinium_: makes sense after reading that url, thanks
[12:33] <lunitik> sharke: why'd you comment one deb-src, but not the other?
[12:33] <klashniv> membreya: as far as I know, config files don't have to be executable
[12:35] <daniels> klashniv: yes, but that's why there are different warty and hoary jigdos.  the archive contains both.  as does the debian archive (woody/sarge/sid, probably still potato if it hasn't been kicked to saens yet).
[12:35] <lunitik> Someone can tell me if XChat scrolls through tabs when you mouse over and use wheel of mouse?
[12:36] <membreya> lunitik: not on mine
[12:37] <sharke> selenium: have a look here http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:37] <lunitik> membreya: heh... I just found it via Konversation... I think I'm too easily entertained
[12:38] <membreya> hmmmm do you use netstat -lp to check if a port is being listened on ?
[12:38] <bascule> netstat -pant
[12:39] <bascule> saves it turning up all the UNIX sockets too
[12:39] <membreya> gah why isn't hotwayd loading
[12:40] <membreya> bascule: allows you to check hotmail through email client
[12:40] <bascule> oh that thing, what about gotmail?
[12:40] <bascule> never used it, haven't git a hotmail account
[12:40] <membreya> i wanna know why THIS isn't loading though
[12:40] <bascule> *shudder*
[12:41] <membreya> i have the following in my inetd.conf
[12:41] <membreya> pop3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/hotwayd
[12:41] <delltony> membreya,  you ever got gmplayer to work :)
[12:41] <membreya> i use mplayer :)
[12:42] <lunitik> delltony: almost all mplayer GUI's are crippled at the moment (gmplayer, kplayer, kmplayer)
[12:42] <delltony> ok so its not me
[12:42] <delltony> good deal case closed
[12:42] <delltony> :)
[12:42] <bascule> fix it delltony
[12:42] <bascule> :P
[12:42] <delltony> yeah
[12:42] <delltony> if it had boobies i might
[12:42] <delltony> ;)
[12:42] <bascule> lol
[12:43] <delltony> that would rock and yes i'm sick
[12:43] <delltony> a boobie skin
[12:43] <delltony> tweak the nerple
[12:43] <delltony> :)
[12:43] <bascule> lol
[12:43] <klashniv> daniels: its downloading fine, thanks :)
[12:44] <klashniv> daniels: I meant hoary (using jigdo)
[12:45] <bascule> membreya: does it need an /etc/services entry too?
[12:45] <bascule> maybe I am guessing here
[12:45] <membreya> bascule: already added
[12:45] <bascule> k
[12:46] <bascule> restart the network?
[12:46] <bascule> restart xinetd?
[12:46] <membreya> using inetd
[12:46] <membreya> done a killall -HUP on it
[12:46] <bascule> k
[12:46] <membreya> I can invoke hotwayd manually
[12:46] <membreya> but as soon as I exit it doesn't do jack
[12:48] <klashniv> thanks everyone, have to leave now
[12:50] <membreya> how do I make an executable so everyone can run it ?
[12:50] <membreya> chown ..what?
[12:50] <bascule> 777
[12:50] <bascule> chmod 777
[12:50] <membreya> oh chmod :P
[12:50] <jdub> membreya: chmod +x <file>
[12:50] <bascule> or 744 for execute but not write
[12:51] <jdub> 777 is almost always entirely inappropriate
[12:51] <bascule> or is that 755
[12:51] <membreya> and it's STILL not loading it!
[12:51] <bascule> yeah 777 is for top level shared irs and that is about it
[12:51] <jdub> no, it is not
[12:51] <bascule> jdub: no?
[12:52] <membreya> going to reboot
[12:53] <bascule> membreya: might work, but I doubt it
[12:54] <membreya> should the inetd.conf have  /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/local/sbin/hotwayd or should it just have the /usr/local/sbin/hotwayd
[12:54] <membreya> I did a debug on inetd and it gave no errors
[12:54] <bascule> try both/either
[12:54] <bascule> *shrug*
[12:59] <djp> Help! Grrr!
[12:59] <djp> ubuntu is driving me nuts! is there anyone here who can help me!?
[01:00] <HiddenWolf> djp, calm down, tell us what's up
[01:00] <djp> i keep coming across dependency hell!
[01:00] <HiddenWolf> djp: warty or hoary?
[01:00] <djp> when i used fc3, i used the program tovid to create vcd/svcd's
[01:01] <djp> so far i have had nothing but trouble getting transcode, tovid, avidemux etc, etc to install!
[01:01] <djp> HiddenWold: warty
[01:01] <HiddenWolf> djp: have you been compiling?
[01:02] <cr4z3d> hey can someone help me with this..
[01:02] <cr4z3d> everytime i boot ubuntu i get a fatal error and it stops
[01:02] <djp> HiddenWolf: no i have been adding repositories to sources.list
[01:02] <cr4z3d> cuz it checks for my floppy drive which i don't have
[01:02] <HiddenWolf> djp: debian repro's by any chance?
[01:02] <HiddenWolf> cr4z3d: what's the exact error?
[01:03] <djp> HiddenWolf: I have been using the repositories recommended at www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:03] <membreya> yeah! I got hotwayd to work :D
[01:03] <membreya> just reinstalled
[01:03] <bascule> ? Ah well whatever worked :)
[01:04] <HiddenWolf> djp: what are the errors you are getting?
[01:04] <djp> HiddenWolf: universe enabled, multiverse, debian-marillat and warty-backports
[01:05] <cr4z3d> FATAL ERROR: no floppy or something
[01:05] <cr4z3d> this device does not exist
[01:05] <HiddenWolf> djp: are ubuntu-base, -desktop installed?
[01:06] <djp> HiddenWolf: one example... avidemux will not install because it depends on libartssc0, libasound2, libglib2.0-0, libgtk2.0-0, libpangol1.0-0, libsdl1.2debian, libxml2
[01:06] <cr4z3d> i can turn it on again and tell you if you want
[01:06] <HiddenWolf> cr4z3d: please do
[01:06] <cr4z3d> ok
[01:06] <djp> HiddenWolf: ubuntu-base, -desktop installed? sorry not quite with you?
[01:07] <cr4z3d> starting hotplug subsystem...
[01:07] <HiddenWolf> djp: open a terminal: do 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:07] <cr4z3d> modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting floppy (/lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386/kernel/drivers/floppy.ko): No such device
[01:08] <brainZzZ> i have such devices at home
[01:08] <djp> HiddenWolf: sorry, both are installed
[01:08] <HiddenWolf> cr4z3d: try to disable it in bios, then try again
[01:08] <cr4z3d> there is no option for it in bios
[01:08] <HiddenWolf> djp: good, then there's nothing seriously wrong
[01:08] <brainZzZ> there is no option in any of the display settings to make it that
[01:08] <cr4z3d> it's a laptop and ichecked for the floppy spot in the bios about 50 times
[01:09] <cr4z3d> the bios actually sucks.. there's almost nothing in it
[01:09] <HiddenWolf> cr4z3d: most laptop bios's that way
[01:09] <cr4z3d> oh ok
[01:09] <djp> HiddenWolf: is it that i cannot use any tools to convert to vcd svcd under ubuntu?
[01:09] <HiddenWolf> djp: have you tried looking for those libs that it says it needs?
[01:10] <HiddenWolf> djp: I've never tried, I don't know what tools are out there.
[01:10] <djp> HiddenWolf: via apt-get?
[01:10] <HiddenWolf> djp: yup
[01:10] <cr4z3d> is it possible to just stop it from checking that?
[01:11] <djp> HiddenWolf: i believe that apt-get is trying to resolve the dependencies but the versions of each file it finds is older than the required file
[01:11] <HiddenWolf> cr4z3d: it sounds to me like you're running into a modprobe bug, but I'm no expert
[01:11] <cr4z3d> yeah.. i guess what should i do? i tried posting on the forums but no responce so far
[01:12] <HiddenWolf> djp: which repro do the files come from? multiverse/universe or something else?
[01:13] <selinium_> sharke: are you still about
[01:13] <selinium_> ?
[01:13] <selinium_> Is any one here running hoary?
[01:14] <HiddenWolf> selinuim_: check
[01:15] <selinium_> HiddenWolf: When you upgraed, in synaptic, where you left with lots of Installed (upgradedable) packages?
[01:15] <selinium_> HiddenWolf: upgraded even
[01:16] <HiddenWolf> selinium_: no, check if ubuntu-base /desktop are installed, update again, and dist-upgrade
[01:17] <HiddenWolf> djp: still around?
[01:17] <djp> HiddenWolf: hmm, i think i have just learnt something *blushes*, let me know if i am correct. using synaptic i can force a version of the tool to install. if i use a different version i can get it to install!
[01:18] <HiddenWolf> djp: that works,  yup. there is even a force version flag for apt-get, which was what I was going to recomend to you. :)
[01:18] <selinium_> HiddenWolf: I have ubuntu-base 0.3 Is this the correct one?
[01:18] <brainZzZ> Hmm. Well, to be honest I think I have just been forgetting to open the IRC
[01:18] <cr4z3d> ah.. damn now i have to go to school.. hope i can get this to work later
[01:18] <djp> HiddenWolf: it appears that if i try and install a latest, latest, LATEST version, it all falls apart due to dependency issues. However if i fall back and try to install an older version it installs...
[01:18] <HiddenWolf> selinium: version doesn't matter, just have base and desktop installed, then update and dist-upgrade
[01:19] <HiddenWolf> djp: that means that some goof in debian updated a new version, but forgot to upload the new libraries aswel
[01:19] <djp> HiddenWolf: i should have remembered the force command to be honest from fc3! i feel a right prat!
[01:19] <selinium_> Have done that twice now and I stil have the same problems. I only wanted to upgrade battle for wesnoth! :)
[01:19] <brainZzZ> we had a big laugh over that, but it's basically how i feel about it
[01:20] <HiddenWolf> djp: relax: fc3 actually has a dependency hell. With debian-based systems it's quite rare
[01:20] <djp> HiddenWolf: thanks for your help. i'm off to play. really don't want to give up on ubuntu as i like the distro overall.
[01:20] <HiddenWolf> djp: good, no problem, and enjoy the ride
[01:21] <zzyber> Does someone know of an app to stream videos?
[01:21] <djp> HiddenWolf: one last question, would you recommend sticking to the debian philosophy regards free software (ie no java, mp3 blah, blah, blah) or not?
[01:21] <HiddenWolf> djp: depends: are you masochistic?
[01:21] <selinium_> HiddenWolf: I have run update twice now and still have the same problems
[01:21] <HiddenWolf> selinium: upgrade and dist-upgrade are two different things, you know that right?
[01:22] <selinium_> HiddenWolf: Yep! Done both twice
[01:22] <selinium_> HiddenWolf: Update /dist-upgrade twice
[01:23] <HiddenWolf> selinium: then either the repro is broken at the moment, or you'll just have to upgrade by hand for those packages. either way, something happened that wasn't supposed to happen.
[01:25] <HiddenWolf> cr3z3d: still around?
[01:25] <selinium_> HiddenWolf: Damn! What would you suggest to do? here is one erroron upgrade. Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>=<IP_ADDRESS>) but <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:26] <selinium_> For audacity
[01:26] <HiddenWolf> seliunium_ broken repro, bad luck, wait