[18:16] <daftykins> suyash1629: no, that has nothing to do with supporting ubuntu. sorry. try an android channel if one exists, or simply read the guides on the android site
[18:16] <pip> I'll check the link out, thanks
[18:16] <suyash1629> daftkins: well thanks
[18:17] <pip> but yeah, Ari-Yang, pip@pipubuntu-pc:~$ !fglrx | pip
[18:17] <pip> bash: !fglrx: event not found
[18:17] <CoolApps> Bye.
[18:17] <Ari-Yang> pip: k
[18:21] <earthling_> Anyone know the shortcut for showing all windows on a current workspace in 12.04 running Unity 2d?
[18:24] <hawkeee> Hello
[18:25] <ytrezq> Hello, There are big problems with the qemu-user-static packages (I've tried all version including stable). When I use qemu-mips-static (even without binfmt), certain mips program make incorect computes. for example using '4 * _exp(-0.5)/_srqt(2.0)' make python complaining about div by 0. When I ask time of subprograms to gcc with -time, it print nan serveral times (nan~=not a number). Many programs simply crash. I've
[18:25] <ytrezq> tested the rootfs on real hardware. May someone can help please (2 times)?
[18:25] <hawkeee> I have a netbook and the keyboard was working perfectly fine now is not
[18:25] <hawkeee> Missing some keys
[18:25] <hawkeee> :(
[18:26] <bekks> hawkeee: So what have you done between "working" and "not working", using which Ubuntu?
[18:26] <hawkeee> i believ im on 10.4
[18:27] <wafflejock> hawkeee: why not upgraded?
[18:27] <hawkeee> will that solve my issue
[18:27] <hawkeee> ?
[18:28] <hawkeee> or make it worst
[18:28] <hawkeee> 10.10
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> hawkeee, If you are running 10.04 with a desktop it is end of life and not supported, are you aware of release times and ends?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> 10.10 either
[18:29] <wafflejock> hawkeee: yeah it's just very in the past
[18:29] <hawkeee> ;/
[18:30] <wafflejock> hawkeee: in linux time at least... you'd just be more likely to get a fix with up to date software... will still try to help
[18:30] <fr1tz3d> no
[18:30] <wafflejock> hawkeee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1793250
[18:31] <wafflejock> hawkeee: basically only things I could see being wrong are wrong keyboard layout configured which the forum there should help with... or else hardware failure... possibly disconnect reconnect keyboard (even with laptops this usually isn't terribly difficult matter of popping off part and taking out a couple of screws, just have to be careful with the cables
[18:32] <wafflejock> )
[18:32] <hawkeee> waffle thats what i tought it was
[18:32] <hawkeee> im thinking for of a misconfiguration then a hardware failure
[18:32] <hawkeee> but ill give the link a try thats something i havent done
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> Thank goodness for the enablers to just make everyones life more difficult than it should be.
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> self serving idiots
[18:35] <ytrezq> Again: How I can get the mips target working in the qemu-user-static dpkg?
[18:37] <DrGrov> Hello.
[18:37] <wafflejock> !hi | DrGrov
[18:39] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Have you used VLC a lot in transcoding in 13.10?
[18:39] <wafflejock> negative on 13.04
[18:39] <wafflejock> transcoding?
[18:40] <wafflejock> DrGrov: http://www.ffmpeg.org/
[18:41] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Ah sorry, my mistake.
[18:41] <DrGrov> wafflejock: I just figured it out by selecting a ready made profile in VLC :) Sorry about that.
[18:41] <wafflejock> DrGrov: ah k cool... so you're converting video files in VLC?
[18:42] <martin____> is anyone familar with geany here?
[18:42] <wafflejock> martin____: what about it?
[18:42] <earthling_> Anyone know the shortcut for showing all windows on a current workspace in 12.04 running Unity 2d?
[18:42] <wafflejock> !ask | martin____
[18:42] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Yes, I converting webpage videos which I normally see on the telly.
[18:42] <wafflejock> earthling_: I feel like you need to set it
[18:42] <earthling_> somehow I was able to do it, not sure what I pressed heh
[18:42] <wafflejock> DrGrov: ah cool
[18:42] <DrGrov> wafflejock: But on the web I can't see them due to geoblocking :/
[18:43] <martin____> wafflejock: I tried downloading a geany theme, but I'm having troubles applying it
[18:43] <DrGrov> wafflejock: And since I do not use regular TV any more in the past 3 years I thought I would still get them somehow and VLC provides the solution :)
[18:43] <wafflejock> earthling_: you can get compiz config settiggs manager to adjust the keybindings for all the window actions
[18:43] <wafflejock> DrGrov: nice VLC to save the day again
[18:44] <DrGrov> wafflejock: VLC is the first app I installed and have done in past when getting Ubuntu
[18:44] <DrGrov> wafflejock: It is a lifesaver in cases like this
[18:44] <wafflejock> martin____: sorry I don't actually use Geany on the regular, I've used it here or there but like SublimeText too much so never dug into Geany deep, just always good to just ask in these rooms
[18:44] <DrGrov> wafflejock: I though can't seem to get VDPAU working with VLC 2.1.0. That I have to figure out.
[18:45] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Or then I am just blind and can't see VDPAU :)
[18:45] <martin____> The theme i've applied to geany disappears after saving the file, can anyone help me out with this?
[18:45] <wafflejock> martin____: what have you tried what symptoms?
[18:45] <tolga> türkçe bilen var mı arkadaşlar
[18:45] <martin____> wafflejock: well, i just followed what the instructions said
[18:45] <martin____> wafflejock: at first the theme is there but after saving the file, it kinda resets
[18:46] <martin____> wafflejock: is SublimeText free?
[18:47] <wafflejock> martin____: it's free to try it bugs you after saves every once in a while, $50 for the license in the end
[18:47] <wafflejock> martin____: totally worth it though
[18:47] <wafflejock> martin____: lots of nice plugins
[18:47] <aschmitz> martin____: I can second wafflejock's recommendation of Sublime Text.
[18:47] <wafflejock> martin____: I use it for PHP and AngularJS development
[18:47] <martin____> wafflejock: can i use it without buying the license?
[18:47] <wafflejock> martin____: indeed
[18:47] <wafflejock> martin____: it just bugs you
[18:47] <martin____> wafflejock: nice
[18:48] <DrGrov> wafflejock: You have any idea why the .mp4 doesn
[18:48] <martin____> i'll try that out
[18:48] <martin____> aschmitz: I'll try it out
[18:48] <DrGrov> wafflejock: You have any idea why the .mp4:s I just converted do not show up in the default 13.10 file manager as preview icons? In the Trash they show up as previews.
[18:48] <wafflejock> DrGrov: no interesting...
[18:48] <wafflejock> DrGrov: I'm using Kubuntu now
[18:48] <wafflejock> DrGrov: I have to enable previews in the file browser... ignorantly not knowing what it's called
[18:49] <wafflejock> oh right Dolphin
[18:49] <martin____> aschmitz: I'll try it out then
[18:49] <martin____> :D
[18:49] <DrGrov> wafflejock: I have previews on all my other .mp4 files as they should be. Probably I could find out from them the right conversation?
[18:49] <BetaSoul> Can I get some help installing backports?
[18:50] <BetaSoul> martin____: Its classic nagware.
[18:51] <wafflejock> martin____: yeah some things to know going into it... use Ctrl+P for almost anything... Google for Package Control, there will be a command you enter into a SublimeText command window to install that
[18:51] <ytrezq> Again: There are big problems with the qemu-user-static packages (I've tried all version including stable).
[18:51] <ytrezq> When I use qemu-mips-static (even without binfmt), certain mips program make incorect computes. for example using '4 * _exp(-0.5)/_srqt(2.0)' make python complaining about div by 0. When I ask time of subprograms to gcc with -time, it print nan serveral times (nan~=not a number). Many programs simply crash. I've tested the rootfs on real hardware. May someone can help please (2 times)?
[18:52] <wafflejock> martin____: after installing that you can use Ctrl+Shift+P to find other packages for sublime
[18:52] <wafflejock> martin____: do some Googling on using SublimeText 2 there's lots of good ramp up stuff out there to get the most out of it
[18:52] <martin____> wafflejock: I'm new to Ubuntu as well
[18:52] <earthling_> wafflejock, I see, I heard some ccsm settings could mess up your system?
[18:52] <martin____> wafflejock:  would be great if you'd assist me with it
[18:52] <martin____> hahaha
[18:52] <wafflejock> martin____: Ctrl+K,B also hides the file navigator and F11 gives you distraction free mode... those are probably my most common
[18:53] <wafflejock> martin____: yeah this is the ubuntu support channel I'm surprised I haven't been yelled at for talking about SublimeText so far :)
[18:53] <wafflejock> earthling_: it can if you screw with things a lot
[18:53] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Now I followed the exact one of a .mp4 that shows up in preview. H264, MPEG 4(AAC).
[18:53] <xangua> hi everyone, after i upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stops being recognized, any suggestion on the issue?
[18:53] <wafflejock> earthling_: if you just go in there and use it to update some stuff that's already active or to check out the keybindings you should be fine
[18:54] <earthling_> I see,ok
[18:55] <wafflejock> DrGrov: not sure about the preview business really... I never looked much into how Linux resolves the previews or if it caches them like windoze with the thumbnails files everywhere
[18:56] <martin____> wafflejock:  the instructions here tells me to copy the content of the file to /opt, however Ubuntu doesn't seem to have one
[18:57] <wafflejock> martin____: you can just make the folder
[18:57] <wafflejock> martin____: it's just for "optional" software I believe
[18:57] <wafflejock> martin____: on other systems I've seen IBM websphere stuff installed there
[18:57] <wafflejock> martin____: but usually it's mostly empty
[18:58] <wafflejock> martin____: instructions for installing will explain to extract the zip move to opt (just conventional place to put some manually installed stuff) then will tell you to setup a "symbolic link" much like a shortcut from /usr/bin/sublime to your /opt folder where you actually extracted stuf
[18:58] <wafflejock> /usr/bin is in your $PATH environment variable by default so any commands in there can be executed system wide
[18:59] <wafflejock> you can type
[18:59] <wafflejock> echo $PATH
[18:59] <wafflejock> to see your path
[18:59] <DrGrov> wafflejock: But you reckon as me that it is strange that it shows up on some .mp4 and not this one? Probably I just did a customized version of the .mp4 by mistake LOL
[18:59] <wafflejock> martin____: beyond that instructions will probably tell you how to setup a .desktop file which just gives you a nice "real shortcut"
[19:00] <wafflejock> DrGrov: well mp4 is a container I believe and doesn't dictate the actual codec used or anything
[19:00] <wafflejock> DrGrov: but if you went with H264 and everything else too not sure what the difference would be
[19:01] <DrGrov> wafflejock: I think I went wrong the first time with audio. Now I did it again, takes a while but a perfect chance to work the computer into speed.
[19:01] <martin____> wafflejock: so /usr/bin is where all applications are installed. It's kinda the Program Files in Windows huh?
[19:01] <wafflejock> martin____: yeah mostly
[19:02] <wafflejock> martin____: if you type
[19:02] <wafflejock> ls -al
[19:02] <wafflejock> while in the /usr/bin folder it will show the list and will also show on the right any place symbolic links are setup to go to
[19:02] <wafflejock> martin____: difference being with linux files are a bit more "scattered" or organized differently really
[19:02] <wafflejock> martin____: /usr/bin is going to have your executable files (the main program)
[19:03] <wafflejock> martin____: but other stuff like configuration will be in /etc/apache2 or the like (somewhere in /etc/)  usually logs are in /var/log/  and usually user settings are in /home/myuser/.someFile/
[19:03] <wafflejock> if a folder/file (one and the same as far as Linux is concerned just a bit that is flipped), starts with a period or dot that means it's hidden
[19:04] <AcidRain2012> im using ubuntu 12.04, how do i stop screen from locking? i have disabled it in the settings menu, but it still locks
[19:04] <AcidRain2012> im also using cinnamon as the DE
[19:04] <wafflejock> martin____: if you need to see hidden files in the "file browser" Ctrl+H usually does the trick, in the command line ls is to list (simalar to dir in windoze), ls -a will list all including hidden ls -l gives long format showing file permissions on the left
[19:05] <wafflejock> AcidRain2012: locking in what scenario
[19:05] <martin____> I'm following the instructions http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/#viewSource
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, cinnamon on 12.04 is a ppa.
[19:05] <wafflejock> martin____: cool I used those recently too, work out okay?
[19:05] <martin____> wafflejock: what is this .desktop for
[19:06] <ElOpositor> does anyone know what happened with erUSUL? someone told me he died
[19:06] <wafflejock> martin____: so the .desktop file is just the shortcut definition
[19:06] <wafflejock> martin____: so the little icon that shows up in the launcher... each of those has a .desktop file
[19:06] <wafflejock> martin____: lots of programs in Linux set that part up for you
[19:06] <martin____> Well, after I saved that contents and exit out of it, no shortcut was created
[19:06] <AcidRain2012> wilee-nilee, ppa? i dont see how this would effect the screen lock...
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, You might contact them
[19:06] <rogan_> hi all
[19:06] <ElOpositor> Is erUSUL dead?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | AcidRain2012 you are not new here
[19:07] <martin____> wafflejock: Oh wait, I guess I need to lock this one to the launcher so that it'll stay
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> wilee-nilee, the same thing happens when im using unity, gnome2 DE,
[19:07] <rogan_> how to define default sound card
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> pretty much, its turned off no matter what DE im using, but it still locks. how to fix?
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> gnome 2? AcidRain2012 you mean the fallback dexktop?
[19:07] <martin____> wafflejock: everytime i open sublimeText the .desktop one opens
[19:07] <AcidRain2012> wilee-nilee, really this has nothing to do with cinnamon
[19:07] <rogan_> in lubuntu
[19:07] <wafflejock> martin____: it just opens in your previous state
[19:08] <AcidRain2012> wilee-nilee, no, i have like 10 DEs installed. gnome2 is just 1 of them
[19:08] <wafflejock> martin____: ctrl+w to close the window or just close the tab within SublimeText but not the main window
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, ppa's are technically not supported, it has all to do with it.
[19:08] <martin____> wafflejock: nah, the icon doesn't open at all
[19:08] <AcidRain2012> ive never seen the fallback desktop for ubuntu 12
[19:08] <martin____> wafflejock: I have to open it on my terminal
[19:08] <AcidRain2012> wilee-nilee, ok. tell me how to fix it when im using unity then?
[19:08] <wafflejock> hmm are you sure you have the extension right?
[19:09] <[Gentoo]> AcidRain2012: the 10 des have probably borked general desktop settings
[19:09] <rogan_> how to define default sound card in lubuntu without alsaconf or asoundconf?
[19:09] <martin____> wafflejock: Oh wait, I think I mistyped something. That might've caused it, however I can't save the changes. lol
[19:09] <AcidRain2012> =(
[19:09] <[Gentoo]> rogan_: http://bpaste.net/show/146421/
[19:09] <[Gentoo]> thats mine
[19:10] <wafflejock> martin____: whats the trouble saving, what're you trying to save with?
[19:10] <wafflejock> martin____: yeah starting off is always a lot of stumbline from one wall into another
[19:10] <wafflejock> stumbling*
[19:11] <chro> anyone from China here ?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> chro, This is support
[19:11] <wafflejock> ubunucn | chro
[19:11] <chro> ok
[19:11] <rogan_> Gentoo i don't understand
[19:11] <g0th> hi
[19:11] <[Gentoo]> rogan_: thats my /etc/asound.conf which sets the default card
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> !cn | chro
[19:12] <chro> oh thanks
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> chro, some there ;)
[19:12] <martin____> wafflejock: It's working now
[19:12] <g0th> when I use gimp everything reacts very slow. E.g. I click on a menu but it takes like 5 seconds until the menu opens/etc.
[19:12] <martin____> haha
[19:12] <g0th> I am afraid that this is a more general problem
[19:12] <g0th> I use the latest ubuntu
[19:12] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: thx
[19:12] <martin____> wafflejock: Anything else I need? Do I need to install any plug-ins?
[19:12] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: couldn't find it
[19:12] <wafflejock> martin____: what kind of development do you do?
[19:12] <rogan_> it's automatically loaded?
[19:13] <martin____> wafflejock: web (PHP, HTML, CSS, Javascript) with MySQL
[19:13] <wafflejock> martin____: https://sublime.wbond.net/installation
[19:13] <[Gentoo]> rogan_: you shouldnt need to do anything after editing that file, except restart any app that's using alsa
[19:13] <wafflejock> martin____: you'll want to get Package Control then you can hit Ctrl+Shift+P and type install to get install package option
[19:13] <wafflejock> martin____: from there it will search package control which has a bunch of plugins
[19:14] <wafflejock> martin____: I wouldn't say you absolutely need anything but it doesn't hurt to check some out
[19:14] <martin____> wafflejock: where is Package Control?
[19:14] <rogan_> ok is there a document to describe this file
[19:14] <rogan_> ?
[19:14] <wafflejock> martin____: that link I dropped up there
[19:14] <[Gentoo]> rogan_: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
[19:14] <wafflejock> martin____: it has some bit of code at the bottom of the page, you have to open the command console in SublimeText (can't recall think it says there though)
[19:15] <rogan_> thanks for all
[19:15] <BetaSoul> ARG! even after installing backports the network card still comes up as unclaimed.
[19:16] <wafflejock> martin____: mostly Ctrl+P will do everything for you, you can use this to open files by just starting to type the file name, files have to be open, you do this by adding a folder to the project from the project menu, or from the command line you can just type
[19:16] <wafflejock> sublime .
[19:17] <wafflejock> martin____: Ctrl+P then an @ symbol in the box will search through CSS for styles or through JS for functions
[19:17] <martin____> wafflejock: Dang! Now I can't open SUblime
[19:17] <wafflejock> Ctrl+P then : will search for a line number
[19:17] <wafflejock> martin____: after installing package control?
[19:17] <martin____> wafflejock: yeah
[19:18] <wafflejock> martin____: even from command line no feedback?
[19:18] <martin____> wafflejock: Unable to run package setup
[19:18] <wafflejock> huh
[19:18] <wafflejock> martin____: sorry never encountered that one
[19:18] <martin____> wafflejock: Error: "Unable to run package setup:  Traceback (most recent call last):   File "./PackageSetup.py", line 165, in upgrade     upgradePackage(pkg, pristinedir, datadir, backupdir)   File "./PackageSetup.py", line 158, in upgradePackage     os.path.join(backupdir, base), inhibitOverwrite)   File "./PackageSetup.py", line 90, in upgradeArchive     writeFile(fname, newar.read(f))   File "./PackageSetup.py", line 18, in wri
[19:19] <wafflejock> martin____: sure you used the right snippet from the link above one for sublime text 2 not sublime text 3?
[19:19] <wafflejock> martin____: if you have it wrong you may need to delete the Package Control folder from within your Sublime Text installation in the /opt folder
[19:20] <wafflejock> martin____: sorry wasn't explicit about the versions part... didn't run into an issue when I personally messed that up before though, just saw I had to run the other one and it worked
[19:21] <A1Recon> For installing the LAMP stack do i have to install tasksel??
[19:21] <wafflejock> A1Recon: you can do that or
[19:21] <wafflejock> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[19:21] <martin____> wafflejock: How do I know that the plug-in installation was successful?
[19:22] <wafflejock> well when you start sublime text 2 and hit Ctrl+Shift+P then start typing install you should see an option come up for install package
[19:22] <martin____> wafflejock: Got it running again by using sudo chown -R <username> <path to sublime>
[19:22] <wafflejock> that's package control
[19:22] <g0th> hi
[19:23] <g0th> whenever I click somewhere it very often takes about 5 seconds until something actually happens
[19:23] <g0th> this makes the desktop and programs very hard to use
[19:24] <wafflejock> g0th: have you tried watching your system monitor or top or htop to see what if anything is peaking out?
[19:24] <g0th> it is all below 5%
[19:24] <g0th> I have a lot of (free) memory
[19:24] <BetaSoul> Okay, I still need help getting htis damn card to work. I've got hte ath9k driver installed now, but it still comes up unclaimed under lshw -c network
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> KDE is very responsive, faster than Unity, in my experience
[19:24] <g0th> and a fast SSD HD
[19:24] <wafflejock> MonkeyDust: +1
[19:24] <g0th> 5s is no longer a debate about responsiveness
[19:25] <wafflejock> g0th: not sure nothing on my SSD taked 5 seconds
[19:25] <g0th> something is WRONG
[19:25] <wafflejock> g0th: maybe boot
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> g0th, Install htop open it and see whats eating the cpu, beyond that is the computer have new enough hardware and enough ram?
[19:25] <g0th> nothing is eating the cpu
[19:25] <A1Recon> wafflejock: looks like i have to install tasksel first...
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> g0th, And you confirm this how?
[19:25] <wafflejock> A1Recon: I believe the command I wrote actually installs tasksel as part of the process
[19:25] <g0th> with e.g. top
[19:25] <wafflejock> A1Recon: is tasksel a problem?
[19:26] <g0th> also I can play movies/etc
[19:26] <g0th> it is just the responsiveness that causes troubles
[19:26] <A1Recon> OK... i missed the "^" right... Thanks...
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> g0th, I believe top does not scroll right do you see everything running?
[19:26] <moppy> goth: is this a case of running Unity on an unsupported/old graphics card?
[19:26] <wafflejock> A1Recon: yes the all important caret
[19:26] <g0th> wilee-nilee: sigh, ok  what do I have to do to finally convince you that my cpu is not overloaded?
[19:26] <wafflejock> A1Recon: it's a "pseudo-package" I guess, really just installs the LAMP stack
[19:26] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. sudo dhclient wlan0 up , in the terminal
[19:26] <g0th> htop?
[19:27] <wafflejock> htop is just pretty top
[19:27] <g0th> fine
[19:27] <moppy> g0th, is this a new isntall?
[19:27] <g0th> its all below 5%
[19:27] <g0th> no
[19:27] <wafflejock> htop worth having though
[19:27] <moppy> g0th, it's worked ok before?
[19:27] <g0th> yes
[19:27] <g0th> I have a wireless mouse
[19:27] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: cannot find device
[19:27] <g0th> maybe that is the problem
[19:27] <g0th> but the cursor is fine
[19:28] <g0th> and it does respond
[19:28] <wafflejock> g0th: would defintely eliminate all peripherals and build up
[19:28] <g0th> it just takes like 5 seconds
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> g0th, In general starting with details rather that post being asked them is helpful, and the sigh just is irratating good luck.
[19:28] <moppy> g0th, ok ignore me then. what you were describing is *usually* lack of 3d acceleration in unity, but i doubt in your case as working b4
[19:28] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. ok , /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:28] <g0th> wilee-nilee: well, you asked me to install htop even though it was clear that no new information compared to top and my movie remark would come, that's why I sigh
[19:28] <BluesKaj> in the terminal as well , BetaSoul
[19:29] <g0th> moppy: hmm, that might be it
[19:29] <g0th> moppy: 3d+unity caused trouble before too
[19:29] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Crashed.
[19:29] <g0th> moppy: I think it is something unity/3d related indeed
[19:29] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: lost all window chrome.
[19:30] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. what crashed?
[19:30] <martin____> wafflejock: you still there? How do I install plug-ins again?
[19:30] <wafflejock> g0th: log out and choose unity 2d or install gnome or the like
[19:30] <wafflejock> martin____: Ctrl+Shift+P then start typing install and it should give you install package as an opiton
[19:30] <moppy> unity 2d is depreciated in newer ububtu
[19:30] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. check the network manager
[19:30] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: As in I no longer have a user interface other than my terminal windows.
[19:30] <moppy> by depreciated i mean "they removed it"
[19:30] <g0th> how do I check what I have?
[19:30] <g0th> 3d or 2d?
[19:31] <martin____> wafflejock: I'm looking for a specific color scheme,
[19:31] <moppy> you have 3d if it's 13.04 or later
[19:31] <g0th> also I use really old display drivers
[19:31] <g0th> because the new ones failed
[19:31] <moppy> g0th, maybe try a different DE? see if that fixes it.
[19:31] <martin____> wafflejock: Thank you for your assistance, that's it for today. Hehe, this is exhausting though. Hahaha
[19:32] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Had to manually restart the box.
[19:32] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. then there's something else wrong , starting the network interface shouldn't crash your deskto[
[19:32] <BluesKaj> desktop
[19:32] <wafflejock> martin____: cool yeah getting things setup is always a bit of a struggle... working on some guides I'll turn into video tutorials soon
[19:32] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: I know. Any ideas where to start looking?
[19:32] <wafflejock> martin____: also of interest... where it installs your stuff  /home/username/.config/sublime-text-3/
[19:33] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. have you updated / upgraded your system packages ?
[19:33] <wafflejock> martin____: I thought it was all in the sublime_text installatino folder but think that's just the case in windows.. looks like just about everything is in my users folder in terms of packages I installed and snippets I made and the like
[19:33] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Nope.
[19:33] <wafflejock> martin____: anyhow cheers
[19:33] <martin____> wafflejock: Oh okay, so the /home/username/.config directory contains configurations for theh applciation in my /usr/bin right?
[19:34] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Only installed build essentails.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. then do so , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:34] <wafflejock> martin____: yeah generally speaking... lots of programs make their own . (dot file) in your home folder
[19:34] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Can't, no network.
[19:34] <wafflejock> martin____: might not be in the .config folder
[19:34] <martin____> wafflejock: You are a great help. Thanks again. Cheers!
[19:34] <wafflejock> martin____: np glad I could help
[19:34] <BluesKaj> no ethernet connection either , BetaSoul?
[19:35] <g0th> moppy: I don't want to risk it, even logging out is a bit painful (I have several open windows/etc), probably a reboot would fix it temporarily
[19:35] <darthjavier> hi
[19:35] <darthjavier> i have a problem with the keyboard
[19:35] <xangua> hi everyone, after i upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stops being recognized, any suggestion on the issue?
[19:35] <g0th> replacing a DE environment is bound to cause troubles
[19:35] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Can't get to it. But on update it wants me to put the 13.10 media in the drive.
[19:35] <g0th> -environment
[19:35] <darthjavier> h]]?
[19:35] <BetaSoul> Hrm.......
[19:36] <darthjavier> actually my keyboard is like this: http://s10.postimg.org/4j0kv1389/spankey.jpg
[19:36] <darthjavier> but only find this http://s16.postimg.org/6pogxtt5x/Screenshot_from_2013_11_03_14_29_11.png
[19:36] <darthjavier> anynone knows how to change the keyboard layout?
[19:37] <darthjavier> ?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. then you probly haven't insalled the entire OS packages
[19:37] <A1Recon> I have never done the MySQL and the LAMP stuff .... so i installed LAMP and I get this While not mandatory, it is highly recommended that you set a password   │
[19:37] <A1Recon>   │ for the MySQL administrative "root" user.                               │
[19:37] <A1Recon>   │                                                                         │
[19:37] <A1Recon>   │ If this field is left blank, the password will not be changed.
[19:37] <FloodBot1> A1Recon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <A1Recon> sorry
[19:37] <xangua> darthjavier: looks like a latin american keyboard setup
[19:37] <nginx-happy> ctrl+b doesn't work in tmux
[19:37] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Thats what I'm wondering.
[19:37] <nginx-happy> is it ctrl+b?
[19:38] <nginx-happy> what is % then?
[19:38] <karmete> hollo
[19:38] <moppy> g0th, dont have to replace, both will run side by side, choose on login
[19:38] <karmete> hello
[19:38] <wafflejock> darthjavier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1793250
[19:38] <karmete> do you speak turkısh
[19:38] <BetaSoul> I'm going to try a clean install of 13.10 and see if that fixes anything
[19:38] <moppy> g0th, there are packages in repo eg apt-get install lubuntu-desktop etc
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> karmete, This is english
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> !tr
[19:39] <wafflejock> A1Recon: if this a development machine setting a password on the MySQL database isn't mandatory
[19:39] <wafflejock> A1Recon: you will need this password to connect to the database from PHP or from phpMyAdmin
[19:39] <lesshaste> how can I make the wallpaper a video?
[19:40] <wafflejock> g0th: after you install another DE when you logout you'll see the option next to your name to choose the DE
[19:40] <BetaSoul> Thankfully the *nix partion doesn't store any work.
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  you mean a slideshow?
[19:40] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, no.. an actual video
[19:41] <lesshaste> played using vlc for example
[19:41] <wafflejock> lesshaste: think VLC has the option not sure about any built ins or packages to do it
[19:41] <wafflejock> lesshaste: believe it's just in the view options in VLC no?
[19:41] <lesshaste> wafflejock, but does it actually work as wallpaper? I mean do you get all your icons etc on top?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  you mean, use a video as wallpaper?
[19:41] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, exactly
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  desktop animations very soon start to annoy, they are good for screencasts
[19:44] <wafflejock> lesshaste: haven't tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/58657/how-do-i-set-a-vlc-instance-to-run-as-a-live-wallpaper
[19:44] <wafflejock> lesshaste: I always found video background to be too distracting
[19:44] <lesshaste> wafflejock, thanks but that doesn't seem to support icons for example
[19:44] <wafflejock> lesshaste: some subtle movements can be okay
[19:45] <wafflejock> lesshaste: ah k yeah dunno sorry
[19:46] <aschmitz> Is there a good place to get help with LUKS and Ubuntu?
[19:46] <lesshaste> how do you tell from the command line exactly which version of unity you have ?
[19:46] <g0th> wafflejock: ok
[19:47] <lesshaste> aschmitz, LUKS?
[19:47] <g0th> wafflejock: so the current one has a bug?
[19:47] <aschmitz> lesshaste: Encrypted disks.
[19:47] <g0th> known bug?
[19:47] <BetaSoul> Hrm... I think the image I installed from may have been damaged.
[19:48] <lesshaste> aschmitz, ah
[19:49] <wafflejock> g0th: I'm not sure about a known bug for this but it's worth a shot to try another DE to pin down the problem to one part of the system
[19:49] <wafflejock> g0th: once you know that's it then you can look for a bug within the particular packages bug repo
[19:50] <wafflejock> g0th: or file one if it's not there
[19:50] <g0th> I just realized something
[19:50] <g0th> the error only occurs with the panel
[19:50] <phenylanine> can somebody please tell me why do I need to perform "export PATH="/usr/local/bin:$PATH"" after installing pip with setuptools from github? why won't it run when I type "pip" otherwise?
[19:50] <g0th> if I e.g. open a menu with the right mouse
[19:50] <g0th> I get similar menus
[19:50] <g0th> but they react very responsive
[19:50] <wafflejock> g0th: very likely it is something to do with the DE then since the panels are big part of that
[19:50] <g0th> so only the panel "missbehaves"
[19:50] <g0th> is there a way to reload it?
[19:51] <wafflejock> think so
[19:51] <wafflejock> gnome-panel you can install separate.. not sure about what Unity uses
[19:51] <g0th> /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service
[19:51] <wafflejock> I'm on KDE right now.. will try to search though
[19:51] <wafflejock> ah
[19:51] <wafflejock> yeah maybe can just purge and reinstall that
[19:51] <wafflejock> not sure htough
[19:51] <g0th> I mean restart the panel
[19:51] <g0th> not reinstall it
[19:51] <moppy> you might be able to restart with unity-panel --restart or summat
[19:52] <xangua> are you perhaps refering to this¿ g0th wafflejock https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1199877
[19:52] <theadmin> Running Ubuntu 12.04. When "Show time in other locations" is checked, it automatically shows time in "None". What is this? How can I get rid of it?
[19:52] <phenylanine> any one?
[19:53] <aschmitz> phenylanine: Because /usr/local/bin isn't in your PATH?
[19:53] <wafflejock> phenylanine: yeah
[19:53] <phenylanine> why isn't it in my path by default?
[19:53] <wafflejock> phenylanine: type echo $PATH to see your path
[19:53] <wafflejock> phenylanine: just a matter of the distibution setup
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> phenylanine, give it more than 3 min if you can.
[19:54] <phenylanine> wafflejock: isn't it extremely common to have it in path, why do you think it is not there by default?
[19:54] <wafflejock> phenylanine: similarly in windows you have a default path and end up modifying it for certain software (JDK comes to mind)
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, I'm ion precise right now where is that control?
[19:54] <wafflejock> phenylanine: it's not really extremely common on ubuntu /usr/bin is the norm
[19:55] <phenylanine> oh I see
[19:55] <phenylanine> thank you wafflejock and wilee-nilee
[19:55] <phenylanine> and aschmitz
[19:55] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Date/Time Settings -> Clock -> Time in Other Locations
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, Ah, I'm in the shell it is different
[19:57] <theadmin> It even displays some real time in this "None". I assume it's a real location, but I have no idea what it's doing there.
[19:57] <theadmin> It's not in the list.
[19:57] <nginx-happy> any idea how could i work ith tmux; ctrl+b is the same as Ctrl-b ? what is ctrl-b % ???
[19:57] <nginx-happy> ist it 3 key
[19:59] <theadmin> This is the situation here: http://i.imgur.com/d6jZsi1.png
[20:00] <esoptros> anyone here?
[20:00] <Dannermax> If webmin is not supported by ubuntu anymore, what similar program is there out there?
[20:00] <theadmin> esoptros: Why yes, just ask your question.
[20:01] <esoptros> I have no idea where to go for some Ubuntu support.   at least some quite support.
[20:01] <esoptros> I new to Ubuntu.  lol
[20:01] <bekks> Dannermax: There are several alternatives out there, none of them is in the repos. Like vPanel, etc.
[20:01] <theadmin> esoptros: There's a vast variety of options. You can ask here. You can use askubuntu.com if the reply here takes too long.
[20:02] <theadmin> esoptros: Then there's the Ubuntu Forums, but I have no idea whether those are still active.
[20:02] <esoptros> Ah ok.  Well, I am have some really annoying Ubuntu issues that I have been trying to fix for the past 7 hours.
[20:02] <g0th> xangua: hmm, I don't think so since I don't observe high mem/cpu usage
[20:02] <theadmin> esoptros: Well, as I said, just ask the question(s), and people will try their best to answer.
[20:03] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Got it figured out. Made all the stuff to DIVX3 .avi with a HD type bitrate instead.
[20:03] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Thanks :)
[20:03] <Dannermax> bekks: would you know which one is the most reliable? and which one is not userfriendly to noobs?
[20:03] <Dannermax> bekks: not=most
[20:04] <theadmin> Dannermax: The "none of them in the repos" part implies that none of them are really supported ;)
[20:04] <bekks> Dannermax: For noobs, I recommend to learn how things work and thus not use graphical administrion-like stuff.
[20:04] <esoptros> Ok.  I originally got an Ubuntu linux alienware computer, it worked fine.  Then, [involving nvidia] I installed the updates and drivers, and it pulled the whole black screen stunt on me.   Thanks to a specific forum I found, I got passed it.  And tried reinstalling it via command prompt.
[20:05] <wafflejock> DrGrov: ah np glad you were able to get it sorted
[20:05] <esoptros> And now; depending on if I follow wich boot.   I get two things;  one, black screen with absolutely 0 ability to do anything or stuck in Grub mode, which won't  take any commands.
[20:06] <esoptros> either way, I just want to get back to me desktop so I can install windows, since I am familiar with that; but, I can't get to windows [I need to partition one of my drives for windows to install].
[20:06] <esoptros> anywho, Ubuntu has got me stuck.  lol
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> esoptros: the windows installer will do the partitioning for you if you want to go back to that.
[20:07] <wafflejock> esoptros: at worst you can use Gparted but windwos should wipe out the disk
[20:07] <Dannermax> bekks: Not the answer i wanted but allright :)
[20:08] <wafflejock> Dannermax: bekksis right
[20:08] <wafflejock> Dannermax: if you use a web interface that is changing all the configuration files and something goes wrong your screwed
[20:08] <esoptros> ubuntu seems to be overriding my command of boot to disk.   I've booted the disk before.   But now, it just ignores the command.
[20:08] <BetaSoul> Okay, on a clean.
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> esoptros  launch ubuntu from dvd or usb, use gparted to delete partition, use partiton ton install that other OS you mentioned
[20:08] <BetaSoul> And now I'm getting internal errors.
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> *typos
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> esoptros: as in the windows dvd?
[20:09] <wafflejock> Dannermax: if you really want to know how to do it right you're going to need to take it slower and learn each of the parts involved it's really not that bad... once you have a decent grip on things you can look for tools to speed up your workflow
[20:09] <esoptros> yes, the windows dvd.  the comp didn't come with a ubuntu disk.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> esoptros  launch ubuntu from dvd or usb, use gparted to delete partition, install that other OS you mentioned   <-- more readable
[20:09] <esoptros> So I've been trying to get around that.
[20:10] <Dannermax> wafflejock: thats exactly what i did.. i did something to my raid array from webmin and i dont know exactly what i did... so guess i better take the long road around
[20:10] <wafflejock> esoptros: ubuntu will not override your BIOS boot settings
[20:11] <lesshaste> what would people recommend for making 2d animations in linux?
[20:11] <wafflejock> Dannermax: definitely it will be less trecherous in the long run, think of it as running along the ridge of a cliff vs taking your time... you still might fall off but at least your not being crazy :)
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> esoptros: ubuntu CANNOT override what you select as the boot device. just choose the dvd from the boot menu. if that isn't working then it means there's something wrong with the dvd or your bios settings. eitherway, this is not an ubuntu support issue and i suggest if you need further help to try ##windows
[20:11] <esoptros> ok I finally got the windows thing to load.  lol
[20:12] <wafflejock> lesshaste: nothing... let me know when you find it
[20:12] <esoptros> anywho; I mainly came to try and get around the ubuntu black screen issue.
[20:12] <BetaSoul> Okay, got a hard one for every one. Machine with no network connection, cannot be connected to ether net(long story) and I've got an unclaimed ath9k wireless device.
[20:12] <lesshaste> wafflejock, :( pencil?
[20:12] <wafflejock> lesshaste: unfortunately I'm stuck with Win 8 in a Virtual Box for using Adobe CS stuff... one of the only lame parts of my experience
[20:12] <lesshaste> wafflejock, this is sad
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> esoptros: for the black screen issue, you need to first try booting ubuntu witrh nomodeset
[20:12] <wafflejock> lesshaste: it is indeed
[20:12] <lesshaste> have you tried pencil?
[20:13] <wafflejock> lesshaste: there's Kdenlive and Kino and some other stuff but all just linear video editors and nothing so great
[20:13] <lesshaste> I don't want a video editor
[20:13] <wafflejock> lesshaste: I've heard of some projects but haven't seen anything up to par yet
[20:13] <esoptros> hitsujitmo: how do I do that exactly?  I apologize, I know nothing of ubuntu.
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | esoptros
[20:13] <wafflejock> lesshaste: yeah I know you're looking more for after effects right?
[20:13] <BetaSoul> Any takers?
[20:13] <wafflejock> lesshaste: blender is awesome for 3D stuff
[20:14] <esoptros> alright thank you!
[20:14] <lesshaste> wafflejock, I could try that.. just seems to have a steep learning curve
[20:14] <wafflejock> lesshaste: some people use it as a "video editor" or "compositor" to some degree
[20:14] <lesshaste> I really want to make simple animation
[20:14] <wafflejock> lesshaste: it definitely does have a steep curve... blenderguru.com is pretty good
[20:14] <lesshaste> like a ball rolling down a slope into a box
[20:14] <aschmitz> BetaSoul: I assume you're trying to use ath9k for wireless, then?
[20:14] <lesshaste> thanks
[20:15] <BetaSoul> aschmitz: Correct.
[20:15] <wafflejock> lesshaste: are you a developer?
[20:15] <lesshaste> no.. I just want to make more interesting presentations :)
[20:15] <wafflejock> lesshaste: ah okay... was going to suggest processing.js or processing.org
[20:15] <aschmitz> BetaSoul: Is it a USB device?
[20:15] <wafflejock> lesshaste: it's a bit programmer oriented... well it's artist/programmer oriented
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: can you explain your problem better. what do you mean by unclaimed ath9k?
[20:15] <BetaSoul> aschmitz: PCI-E. And backports doesn't help.
[20:15] <Dannermax> wafflejock: Hehe.. ill remember that.. thanks for the metaphor
[20:16] <lesshaste> thx
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> !details | BetaSoul
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> BetaSoul, If there is a driver get on another computer and put it on a usb and install there.
[20:16] <BetaSoul> wilee-nilee: Tried that.
[20:16] <BetaSoul> Hold on, spec dump:
[20:17] <aschmitz> Yeah, best I can suggest is what wilee-nilee is suggesting, but other than that, I'm not entirely sure.
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: what version of ubuntu and what is the entry for the wifi device in: lspci
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> BetaSoul, So what do you want from us miracles. ;)
[20:17] <BetaSoul> 13.04
[20:17] <wafflejock> lesshaste: np good luck
[20:17] <lesshaste> thx
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> BetaSoul, Take it to a Ethernet port and install it.
[20:17] <BetaSoul> Atheros Commicnations inc AR9300 Wireless Lan Adaptor, rev 01
[20:18] <BetaSoul> wilee-nilee: If that were possible, I would. But its not.
[20:18] <lesshaste> I just did apt-get install pencil
[20:18] <BetaSoul> And I tried that when I was able, and it didn't help.
[20:18] <lesshaste> how do I find the name of the application I just installed!
[20:18] <lesshaste> it isn't called pencil apparently
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> BetaSoul, So this is a either wrong driver or you can't install it right?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> !info pencil
[20:20] <BetaSoul> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure at this point. I've tried backports(which is supposed to support the chip), but the device still comes up as unclaimed on a lshw -c.
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> BetaSoul, That is a realtech in the end they are problematic work or don't work, get a usb that plugs and works.
[20:21] <NGabi> hello ! I would like to know how can I add a space string paremeter: sudo useradd -d  /home/al pacino   pacino , the   /home/al pacino does not work
[20:22] <zykotick9> NGabi: having a space in a username, is a bad idea... expect things to break.
[20:22] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, did that tell us the answer?
[20:22] <BetaSoul> wilee-nilee: I've seen the exact card work. And its well reported to work.
[20:22] <zykotick9> NGabi: you can try /home/al\ pacino
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> BetaSoul, Does it, if it did you would not be here.
[20:23] <Wiz_KeeD> how do I check in ubuntu if a file exists?
[20:23] <wafflejock> lesshaste: sadly didn't know this off the top of my head
[20:23] <wafflejock> lesshaste: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/show-the-list-of-installed-packages-on-ubuntu-or-debian/
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: whats the device id for the card?
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  i installed pencil myself, it shows up as pencil in the menu
[20:23] <BetaSoul> One moment
[20:23] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, you have a menu? :)
[20:23] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, which menu is this?
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> BetaSoul,  The gotta have a dream is better applied to objects that matter get a usb that works outta the bix,.
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  note: this is kde, not unity
[20:23] <lesshaste> ah
[20:23] <lesshaste> so I need a unity helper :)
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  unity jas its menu up left
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> has*
[20:25] <wafflejock> lesshaste: dpgk -L pencil
[20:25] <BetaSoul> wilee-nilee: Device id is the first five digitl number on lspci, correct?
[20:25] <lesshaste> thanks
[20:25] <lesshaste> got it to work
[20:25] <lesshaste> it was my mistake
[20:25] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee. BetaSoul what about ndiswrapper ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[20:25] <wafflejock> lesshaste: k cool learned something anyhow :)
[20:26] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: If I'm reading the lspic the id is 3116
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: lspci -nn | grep AR9300                its the last 4 nums in the [168c:XXXX] block
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Go for it, I put 20$ on the user could earn the 10$ for the usb in the time it takes to get it working if it gotten to working, probably much more money. One had to ask is this worth it, when other option may be easier.
[20:27] <jubale> Anyone have any idea ".." subdirectory of a site directory located in web server path would be owned by '99' group?
[20:28] <BetaSoul> ID is 168c:0030
[20:28] <bekks> jubale: Because someone set the ownership like that.
[20:28] <jubale> I'm sole user of this machine and I know I didn't do taht.
[20:28] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Thanks.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. sudo modprobe ath9k , if it loads the driver there will be no output in the terminal
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> my laptop has a realtec, works every time, once it stops I will head straight to the store for a usb
[20:29] <bekks> jubale: Then the installation of something you set up in that path did it.
[20:29] <jubale> Possible to see a list of such changes?
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: where did you get the driver from?
[20:29] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Drive loaded.
[20:29] <bekks> jubale: Not without you havign created logs of everything you did.
[20:29] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Right now the machine is running a stock 13.04 image.
[20:29] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Driver loaded.
[20:30] <BluesKaj> BetaSoul. ok, try a browser, but you might have to reboot , not sure
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> Question about apache
[20:30] <wafflejock> !ask | Foxhoundz
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> I created a virtual hosts configuration file under /etc/apache2/sites-available
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> Oh can it
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> I'm working on it
[20:30] <BetaSoul> BluesKaj: Let me try the reboot. Right now it still says I'm offline in the network manager.
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> You just wanted to use that macro
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> ANYWAY.
[20:30] <FloodBot1> Foxhoundz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <wafflejock> I did :)
[20:31] <Foxhoundz> As I was saying,  I created a virtual hosts configuration file under /etc/apache2/sites-available but it's not being followed by apache
[20:31] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: so you go to sudo a2ensite mysite and....
[20:31] <Foxhoundz> I restarted apache
[20:31] <Foxhoundz> but no joy
[20:31] <jubale> Crap! Realized these files are inside project directory not server directory, and technically on Windows partition.
[20:31] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: so you did do teh a2ensite?
[20:32] <Foxhoundz> hmm
[20:32] <NGabi>  I created the user dicaprio with the home directory /home/leonardo, but when I try to open /home/leonardo it tells me that no such directory exists . Could somebody please tell me why?
[20:32] <Foxhoundz> What  does that do
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: : can you tell me the output of: modinfo ath9k | grep 168C.*0030
[20:32] <jubale> Probably explains why chmod finishes without error, but no permission changes are actually made.
[20:32] <daniel_> hello
[20:32] <wafflejock> a2ensite will make a symbolic link in sites-enabled from sites-available
[20:32] <daniel_> I got problem with rxtx and java
[20:32] <daniel_> on ubuntu
[20:32] <wafflejock> a2dissite to disable
[20:33] <wafflejock> so you need to put the stuff in sites-available (these are ones for you to choose from to enable or disable)
[20:33] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: One moment.
[20:33] <wafflejock> then do a2ensite (sudo it ) then restart the service
[20:33] <lesshaste> do I still need ia32-libs to use vmware on an amd64?
[20:33] <wafflejock> sudo service apache2 restart
[20:33] <ftpuser> ok. sadly all of my DEs just broke >_>
[20:34] <ftpuser> how can i uninstall all of them, and reinstall unity?
[20:34] <ftpuser> i want everything stock, back to the way it was working
[20:34] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: instead of a2ensite and a2dissite you could just ln -s or whatever to make a symbolic link yourself and use rm to delete but a2ensite and a2dissite makes it easier
[20:34] <NGabi>  I created the user dicaprio with the home directory /home/leonardo, but when I try to open /home/leonardo it tells me that no such directory exists . Could somebody please tell me why?
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> couldn't I just cp or mv the files to sites-enabled?
[20:35] <Foxhoundz> and if so, why is sites-available even there?
[20:35] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: eh just stick with the model it's easier
[20:35] <wafflejock> sites-available gives you a place for everything you may use
[20:35] <wafflejock> sites-enabled is everything you are using
[20:35] <Foxhoundz> Anyway, it's not even working with your directions
[20:35] <Foxhoundz> I chose my file as instructed
[20:35] <wafflejock> say you want to kick on phpadmin for a second and not keep it on the live server
[20:35] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000030sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
[20:35] <wafflejock> when you restart apaceh are you getting any messages
[20:36] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Hello again. Would you happen to recall what steps it was that we took last time I was here to get my ATI acceleration setup? I'm the one with an ATI HD 4250 on a Compaq CQ62 laptop.
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: seems you do have the write driver, so don't think its an issue with the driver itself
[20:36] <NGabi> Hello! I created the user dicaprio with the home directory /home/leonardo, but when I try to open /home/leonardo it tells me that no such directory exists . Could somebody please tell me why?
[20:36] <Foxhoundz> wafflejock, Invalid command 'NamedVirtualHost', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[20:36] <wafflejock> check out /var/log/apache2/error.log for log messages
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> right*
[20:36] <Foxhoundz> wafflejock, and my vhost file: http://apaste.info/lxqW
[20:36] <chamunks> In byobu if I'm sharing a session with another admin is there some way to fix the fact that the other guy might be locking the session at a wierd resolution?
[20:36] <NGabi>  I created the user dicaprio with the home directory /home/leonardo, but when I try to open /home/leonardo it tells me that no such directory exists . Could somebody please tell me why?
[20:36] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: That's good. Any ideas why the driver isn't claiming the device on startup?
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: not sure ...i haven't seen that happen before. the module is definately loaded? lsmod | grep ath9k
[20:38] <xangua> hi everyone, after i upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stops being recognized, any suggestion on the issue?
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> NGabi, A new user has its own home
[20:38] <leon6238> hi
[20:38] <NGabi> Hello!  I created the user dicaprio with the home directory /home/leonardo, but when I try to open /home/leonardo it tells me that no such directory exists . Could somebody please tell me why?
[20:38] <Foxhoundz> I removed the NamedVirtualHosts directive and it worked
[20:38] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: not familiar with that directive
[20:38] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: cool
[20:38] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Yep, the common, hw, all of it.
[20:38] <rypervenche> NGabi: Because you did not create it.
[20:38] <Foxhoundz> now comes the hard part
[20:38] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: yeah apache configuration is a bit of a nightmare for me
[20:38] <Foxhoundz> configuring the permissions
[20:38] <Foxhoundz> I'm a rookie with Linux
[20:39] <Foxhoundz> this is frustrating coming from a WAMP stack
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: and lspci -k shows that the device is using ath9k?
[20:39] <wafflejock> eh both systems have their advantages and disadvantages
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> Foxhoundz  it's called 'learning', like you had to learn others systems, too
[20:39] <wafflejock> Linux is more difficulty setting things up at times but tends to be better in the long game
[20:40] <wafflejock> installing some stuff is much easier
[20:40] <wafflejock> for example sudo apt-get install chromium
[20:40] <wafflejock> congrats new browser
[20:40] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: ITs not show any driver attached.
[20:40] <wafflejock> no browsing the web for links or anything
[20:40] <xangua> wafflejock: congrats, new game
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> wafflejock  chromium is a game, chromium-browser is a, well, browser
[20:41] <wafflejock> ah heh
[20:41] <wafflejock> right sorry
[20:41] <wafflejock> chromium is cool to though
[20:41] <wafflejock> so get that anywy :)
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: maybe a conflicting module. can you dump lsmod to a file, copy to your current machine and post it
[20:42] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Sure can.
[20:42] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: no I can't recall the steps (if you mean by me typing it out all over again). Just make sure you aren't using proprietary drivers, add the ppa (can be found on this page https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/ ) and run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and run these in case they haven't been updated/installed sudo apt-get install linux-firmware libg3dvl-mesa libg3dvl-mesa-dbg libvdpau1
[20:42] <Ari-Yang> libvdpau-dev
[20:42] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: ahhh, recently "chromium" the google project was given the package name "chromium" and the game was relagated to chromium-bsu or something... at least in some other DEB based distros (i'd assume ubuntu as well)
[20:42] <zykotick9> !info chromium
[20:42] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: oh and upgrade your kernel to latest stable (3.11.6)
[20:42] <zykotick9> lame
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  yes, it's confusing, sometimes
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> chromium is in a ppa
[20:42] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[20:42] <wafflejock> either way get them both
[20:42] <wafflejock> haha
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> chromium browser that is lol
[20:43] <theadmin> zykotick9: Is chromium-browser
[20:43] <wafflejock> point was just some stuff goes smoother
[20:43] <theadmin> zykotick9: The game is chromium-bsu
[20:43] <wafflejock> apparently horrible example
[20:43] <zykotick9> theadmin: in ubuntu :p
[20:43] <theadmin> zykotick9: "chromium" is not a package since at least Precise.
[20:43] <wafflejock> okay sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:43] <wafflejock> there's no firefox game is there :)
[20:44] <Calinou> it would refuse to work and instead print: "what does the firefox say"
[20:44] <Calinou> :p
[20:44] <zykotick9> theadmin, i've got "chromium - Google's open source chromium web browser" :p
[20:44] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/nrFRiaiK
[20:44] <theadmin> zykotick9: That's because you are on a Debian box, I suppose.
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> yup, ath9k aint loading
[20:46] <killer> Hey , I dual boot ubuntu and debian , now I want ubuntu bootloader to be default instead of debian
[20:46] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I just automatically upgraded to 3.11.5 on 13.04. Since I have to redo my graphics setup anyways, how can I go about grabbing that kernel?
[20:47] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Any ideas as to why
[20:47] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: 3.11.5 is fine... now if you just want the latest stable here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: can you try: running these and get me the resulting file
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6355221/
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> killer, IN the ubuntu desktop sudo grub-install /dev/sdX ; sudo update-grub  X is the HD's mbr like sda or sdb check to make sure.
[20:50] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: oh and for dpm (dynamic power management) make GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " look like this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.dpm=1" then run sudo update-grub
[20:50] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: those lines are in grub (/etc/default/grub)
[20:51] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/LibertyBeta/7294659
[20:54] <intrader> Anyone, I would like to see a file hierarchy instead of the view the navigator displays -
[20:55] <essar> how do I *disable* the automounting that any user is able to do without any root privileges? (currently only observed through nautilus)
[20:55] <essar> this is a thing I only want root to be able to do.
[20:56] <Kalel> Greetings..
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> betasoul: can you try: sudo modprobe -r asus_wmi && sudo modprobe ath9k
[20:56] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, It appears that the grub lines are still there. I'm thinking something knocked my xorg config out. Had been working fine since you helped me set it up until yesterday.
[20:56] <BetaSoul> One moment.
[20:56] <zeifer> Hopped on today and tried to play Splice and it crashed.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> essar, root, can you explain better, do you mean a password protected mount?
[20:57] <Kalel> I would like to speed up qbittorrent donloads in ubuntu 13.04. Is there a way to do that?
[20:57] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: First one is fatal error, in use.
[20:57] <essar> wilee-nilee: sorry, I forgot this is ubuntu - yes, password protected mount
[20:57] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Second, no output.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, Only as fast as they come in probably not.
[20:57] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: alright, if the lines are still there then that's good... pastebin your GRUB file, I want to see it. so what are you doing, ditching fglrx and use the open source radeon?
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> betasoul: can you try: sudo modprobe -r sparse_keymap && sudo modprobe -r asus_wmi && sudo modprobe ath9k
[20:59] <essar> wilee-nilee: perhaps by removing myself from the plugdev group?
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> essar, supposedly works use with caution. http://askubuntu.com/questions/211623/how-to-make-ubuntu-ask-for-password-when-mounting-partitions
[20:59] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Thre commands, right?
[20:59] <zykotick9> essar: (while i don't personally have automount on my computers) i'd suggest STRONGLY you don't try to do this.  It's gonna have far reaching implications in your DE (gnome or kde).  you'll be giving up a lot!
[20:59] <essar> zykotick9: I don't use gnome or kde
[20:59] <essar> or care :)
[20:59] <essar> but thanks
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: just do it all as one command  with the &&   if one fails it wont continue
[20:59] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, http://pastebin.com/YjSScN9r Grub there. I can't seem to recall what we were using that worked. I do remember the proprietary giving me problems because of ATI moving my card to legacy and not supporting Linux anymore.
[20:59] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Neat. First fails, in use.
[21:00] <zykotick9> essar: then how do you have automount?  you did have gnome/kde at one time?
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: modprobe -r eeepc_wmi
[21:01] <intrader> Anyone, I would like to see a file hierarchy instead of the view the navigator displays - I have tried ddir
[21:01] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: yes that looks fine. You said that you wanted your setup to be like before, with the open source drivers. refer to my last response (adding the ppa and apt-get the stuff I said), just make sure all proprietary drivers are not in use; good luck.
[21:01] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: No output.
[21:01] <zykotick9> essar: but look into fuse (file system in user space) and the various gvfs stuff.  i really have NO idea how you can, or if it's feasable, it's CERTAINLY not recommended ;)
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> betasoul: modprobe ath9k
[21:02] <NGabi> I have a directory student, conatins: Music; I tryed: "student $ tar -zcvf Music/myArch.tar.gz --exclude='Music/Blues' --exclude='Music/Jazz' /home/student"   but it does not work. Could someone please tell me what's wrong?
[21:02] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: No output.
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: check your wifi now
[21:03] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Only showing a ethernet connection.
[21:03] <new0> how can i download skype?
[21:03] <deper29> new0: sudo apt-get install skype
[21:03] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: REstart betwork manager?
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: nah, it should just show up
[21:03] <essar> zykotick9: no, ubuntu desktop just tends to install a *lot* more than I want or need (which is still great if I want to be lazy)
[21:04] <deper29> essar: what do you use for a de?
[21:04] <new0> deper29, tnx. but it give: E: Unable to locate package skype
[21:04] <essar> deper29: in general, tiling window managers - currently using i3
[21:04] <essar> I don't have a "desktop environment" so to speak
[21:05] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Network is still showing up as unclaimed. Going to reboot, takes seconds, and see if that helps.
[21:05] <essar> just a lot of keybindings :)
[21:05] <deper29> essar: ahh, I've been meaning to try i3. I'm using awesome right now. I actually just switched to awesome 3.5 and my rc.lua is not happy :(
[21:05] <deper29> I love wm's much more
[21:05] <essar> I tried awesome once, I didn't like its default behaviour and did not feel like trying to write lua scripts
[21:05] <new0> deper29, any idea?
[21:05] <essar> that said, I used to use ion3 (and then notion when that went to ****)
[21:06] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Nope, still down.
[21:06] <essar> i3 isn't scriptable but so far I don't care
[21:07] <deper29> new0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype you have to add the repository first
[21:07] <bjrohan> BluesKaj: Hey there. I am still having issues getting my sound to work (it had worked before) in Kubuntu. No help in Kubuntu, I was hoping you could help
[21:07] <new0> deper29, tnx
[21:07] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Just to verify something, do I want xserver-xorg-video-radeon?
[21:08] <BluesKaj> bjrohan. I'm in #kubuntu , just made a suggestion there
[21:08] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: ofc you do, that's the open source radeon driver
[21:08] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you don't want anything fglrx
[21:09] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: like fglrx and fglrx-amdccle
[21:09] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: sudo apt-get purge fglrx* or sudo aptitude purge fglrx*
[21:09] <bjrohan> sorry
[21:09] <zeifer> Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I picked the right one, I have a bad habit of choosing badly. Thanks again, Ari-Yang.
[21:09] <BluesKaj> bjrohan. np
[21:09] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: You are welcome... Did you add the ppa?
[21:10] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, the oibaf one? Yeah.
[21:10] <new0> deper29, http://pastebin.com/c9gDdik7
[21:10] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: and you ran apt-get dist-upgrade?
[21:10] <zeifer> Forgot to do that.
[21:11] <BetaSoul> Bleck, I've had enough of debuggin this for tonight.
[21:11] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for trying so fard.
[21:11] <Ari-Yang> how could you forget to update everything after adding the ppa? .__.
[21:11] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: *hard
[21:11] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you can apt-get dist-upgrade or use software updater
[21:11] <deper29> new0: check spelling
[21:11] <BetaSoul> Any one know what grub-set-default isn't working.
[21:11] <new0> deper29, i copy&paste it
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: not sure what the issue is,. I would try blacklisting asus_wmi or eeepc_wmi and doing a reboot. failing that it's downloading the latest driver and build that
[21:12] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: How do I blacklist?
[21:12] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Been stuck using Windows systems too long. dist-upgrade didn't do much of anything, though. I did do apt-get update
[21:12] <essar> boo, wilee-nilee left - but yes that worked
[21:12] <lesshaste> do I still need ia32-libs to use vmware on an amd64?
[21:12] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what you're suppose to do is add the ppa, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:12] <new0> how can i add my self to group?
[21:13] <tinyafair> hi
[21:13] <lesshaste> the google calendar icon in the left column of unity has the wrong date
[21:13] <lesshaste> how do you fix that?
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: echo "blacklist eeepc-wmi" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf && echo "blacklist asus-wmi" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf            do a reboot and if that doesn't work, remove the entries from the blacklist conf and get the lastest driver and build that
[21:14] <deper29> new0: check spelling. You spelled architecture wrong
[21:14] <lesshaste> it says "31" in big letters
[21:14] <new0> deper29, ok will retry
[21:14] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: One last question: I haven't edited grub in forever. What do I hve to do to manually change it now?
[21:15] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: did dist-upgrade run after doing the apt-get update?
[21:15] <new0> deper29, this is the command i just paste from the link: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[21:15] <bekks> lesshaste: thats the number of unread mail.
[21:15] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Calculating upgrade... Done
[21:15] <zeifer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:15] <lesshaste> bekks, when you hover or it is says "calendar"
[21:15] <lesshaste> bekks, hover over it
[21:16] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: pastebin the output of glxinfo | grep Open
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> BetaSoul: basic var in /etc/default/grub    generator is in /etc/grub.d/       after any changes run: update-grub
[21:16] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you should get something like this http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/22852508
[21:16] <deper29> new0: to add to a groupd you want to do 'sudo usermod -a -G GROUP USER'
[21:16] <new0> deper29, tnx
[21:16] <BetaSoul> hitsujiTMO: Thanks.
[21:17] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Not looking good. I don't know what happened between yesterday and today. http://pastebin.com/PVdSYqcr
[21:17] <lesshaste> are the things in the left hand column in unity called "applets"?
[21:18] <lesshaste> the icons
[21:18] <exilarch> Hello, just installed 13.10 and updated ,I have not shutdown/ restart button (http://i.imgur.com/6nt30XD.jpg)
[21:18] <new0> deper29, ok. how can i see what users on the group?
[21:18] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I've never heard of it happening but I installed Beat Hazard Ultra and Splice and I end up with Nvidia X Settings in my Settings Manager
[21:19] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: To be honest I do not know what you're doing wrong. I'm not sure if you uninstalled fglrx rebooted etc., make sure you are only using free drivers and not the proprietary ones before upgrading the kernel. What you're doing is pretty simple, I'm sorry but I'm moving on :/
[21:19] <zeifer> Not that I used it but I saw it there.
[21:20] <FrancisH> hey guys, what are the min requirements for running MAAS?
[21:20] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: now you can either start from scratch, as in removing the ppa and using ubuntu's stuff and uninstalling the kernel and using ubuntu's etc. install fglrx; and if everything works fine, then uninstall fglrx and boot using the open source radeon driver first, before doing anything else
[21:20] <wafflejock> lesshaste: don't believe so, believe that's just referred to as the launcher and those are .desktop files, applets in my experience just describe in browser Java "mini-applications"
[21:20] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: if you can do that, ask for my help, and if I'm in the mood I'll instruct you further.
[21:20] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[21:21] <lesshaste> wafflejock, ok.. so is each one an icon?
[21:22] <deper29> new0: you know, I don't think I can think of an easy way to do that
[21:22] <deper29> there's no command I can think of that does that anyway
[21:22] <new0> deper29, well, i have a DIR and i see it lock. so i can't copy a downloaded file to it
[21:22] <wafflejock> lesshaste: yeah each one is a representation that's described in a .desktop file somewhere... honestly not sure where the defaults are stored
[21:23] <lesshaste> wafflejock, ok.. weird that the calendar says 31
[21:23] <new0> deper29, maybe i need to change the owner of the DIR to me instead the group
[21:23] <deper29> new0: if you want to see the users in a group you can try looking in /etc/group
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> new0: cat /etc/group | grep <group>         should list users in a group
[21:24] <wafflejock> lesshaste: I'm in kubuntu not sure which calendar you're referring to
[21:24] <new0> deper29, hitsujiTMO yes yes. i am in there. but why i can't copy to it? (DIR)
[21:24] <deper29> new0: er, copy to it?
[21:24] <wafflejock> yeah did some googling on that lookng up groups business and hadn't thought about it but with PAM it is a bit difficult eh
[21:25] <deper29> you don't want to edit that file
[21:25] <wafflejock> yeah you want to use usermod or useradd or the like
[21:25] <new0> deper29, yes. i have i folder that i need to cp to it
[21:25] <lesshaste> wafflejock, there is a column of icons on the left. In may case they are "search...", "Files", "firefox", ubuntu software centre", "system settings", "gmail", "bbc news", "google calendar" etc.
[21:26] <new0> deper29, the destanetion folder are owned by the group and i am in the group but can't copy to it
[21:26] <wafflejock> lesshaste: ah didn't realize they had google calendar in there you on 13.10?
[21:26] <deper29> new0: what folder?
[21:26] <deper29> like, path
[21:26] <new0> deper29, i just download bootstrap ~/Download/bootstrap and i want to copy it to ~/www
[21:26] <wafflejock> lesshaste: I believe that's just a standard google calendar icon on the phones too... just checked it is
[21:26] <lesshaste> wafflejock, 13.04
[21:27] <lesshaste> wafflejock, so it has 31 written on it
[21:27] <wafflejock> yeah I'm 13.04 too just abandoned Unity but didn't recall that
[21:27] <lesshaste> wafflejock, surely that isn't right
[21:27] <wafflejock> lesshaste: yeah it's just an image
[21:27] <new0> deper29, yes. permission denided
[21:27] <deper29> new0: cp -r ~/Download/bootstrap ~/www/
[21:27] <new0> deper29, i mean some error
[21:27] <lesshaste> wafflejock, right but shouldn't the image change??
[21:27] <wafflejock> lesshaste: you can change your clock settings to show date
[21:27] <lesshaste> wafflejock, I mean 31 is not very helpful
[21:27] <wafflejock> lesshaste: no it's not meant to
[21:27] <lesshaste> wafflejock, how?
[21:27] <wafflejock> lesshaste: that's an icon to launch google calendar
[21:27] <wafflejock> lesshaste: it's branded
[21:27] <lesshaste> wafflejock, yes
[21:28] <lesshaste> wafflejock, the brand is "31"??
[21:28] <wafflejock> lesshaste: it's Google Calednar
[21:28] <lesshaste> I know
[21:28] <wafflejock> it's their icon they use for everything I'm saying
[21:28] <lesshaste> but why is it labelled only with the number 31
[21:28] <lesshaste> they don't use 31 for everything :)
[21:28] <new0> deper29, Thank You
[21:28] <wafflejock> they use that same icon for their calendar app everywhere
[21:29] <wafflejock> i know its stupid
[21:29] <lesshaste> wafflejock,so you mean that all their calendar apps icons say the number "31"??
[21:29] <wafflejock> yeah
[21:29] <wafflejock> but you can right click the clock and adjust how it shows the time/date info
[21:29] <lesshaste> you can't
[21:30] <wafflejock> lesshaste: oh sorry you can in KDE...
[21:30] <lesshaste> right click offers only "Google calendar" and "unlock from launcher"
[21:30] <wafflejock> lesshaste: must be in the system settings then
[21:30] <wafflejock> oh not on tha
[21:30] <wafflejock> where it has the time in the top right
[21:30] <wafflejock> by where your little logout gear is at
[21:30] <lesshaste> I can look at the settings there
[21:30] <lesshaste> wafflejock, but that adjusts the time
[21:30] <lesshaste> wafflejock, I dno't see an option to change the calender icon
[21:31] <wafflejock> should have some time display options too I think
[21:31] <wafflejock> no the calednar icon is just an icon
[21:31] <wafflejock> they are never live so far as I know
[21:31] <wafflejock> you can just remove that if you don't use google calendar and just want to see the current time/date
[21:31] <wafflejock> use the clock in the panel on the top right though to have it display the date as well if you'd like
[21:32] <lesshaste> I do use google calendar
[21:32] <wafflejock> lesshaste: I personally like KDE more because you can really customize the heck out of all the panels and whatnot and the widgets with calendars and the like are nice
[21:32] <new0> how can i owned a DIR?
[21:33] <wafflejock> lesshaste: you have to enjoy messing with configuration a bit though
[21:33] <wafflejock> new0: man chown
[21:33] <wafflejock> sudo chown user:group filetarget
[21:33] <wafflejock> basically
[21:33] <wafflejock> !chown
[21:34] <deper29> new0: you own everythnig in your home directory likely
[21:34] <wafflejock> new0: are you trying to copy into /var/www ?
[21:34] <lesshaste> wafflejock, I see this is a 3 year old question http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/calendar/UL2vmQWoMVI
[21:34] <x_root> how to mount isos on ubuntu 13.10? in ubuntu 13.04 was just click and mount
[21:34] <x_root> but now, i did this and didn't mount
[21:35] <new0> deper29, tnx. wafflejock now it's ~/www
[21:36] <lesshaste> wafflejock, and apparently it was fixed in 2011 http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/5-years-of-google-calendar-and-new.html
[21:36] <lesshaste> wafflejock, but not on linux :)
[21:36] <wafflejock> lesshaste: well I don't think the .desktop files support updating live
[21:36] <deper29> x_root: oh man, I think 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mntpoint
[21:36] <lesshaste> wafflejock, an interesting question
[21:37] <wafflejock> lesshaste: I'm not entirely sure but the KDE widgets are more what you're thinking of, active little programs that show some information like calendar or time or a ball you can throw around
[21:37] <lesshaste> wafflejock, they should!
[21:37] <wafflejock> lesshaste: we should is always the answer in open source :)
[21:37] <lesshaste> :)
[21:37] <x_root> deper29, but is not possible anymore with nautilus? just 'click 'n play'?
[21:38] <deper29> x_root: oh, I don't know. I've always mounted like that. It's also always worked for me.
[21:38] <lesshaste> wafflejock, is there a unity channel?
[21:38] <wafflejock> lesshaste: I'm not sure about that just hang out in here and ubuntu-offtopic and angularjs and some other programming ones
[21:38] <lesshaste>  unity3d apparently
[21:39] <wafflejock> lesshaste: that may be for unity 3d platform for game development... maybe not though
[21:39] <new0> right now i have a folder that own by group and i want to change it to me. (adding my self to the group not helping) can't rename the folder
[21:39] <lesshaste> ah
[21:39] <lesshaste> ubuntu-unity
[21:39] <wafflejock> lesshaste: yah more likely :)
[21:39] <dangle> hello
[21:40] <tinyafair> hi
[21:40] <dangle> i am trying to get znc running on my machine and it wont work
[21:40] <bekks> !doesntwork | dangle
[21:40] <wafflejock> new0: you should make sure you're understanding what you're doing while messing with permissions, things can go bad if you rush through it... double check your in the group type
[21:40] <wafflejock> groups
[21:41] <suigeneris> hi
[21:41] <wafflejock> new0: check the folder permissions
[21:41] <wafflejock> ls -al /var/www
[21:41] <suigeneris> I typed sudo apt-get build-dep kvirc then svn co'd kvirc. however when I type cmake .., , I get 'no Qt4 or Qt5 found'. how to fix this? or should I turn to #ubuntu ?
[21:41] <dray> Hi everybody
[21:41] <suigeneris> ignore the last part
[21:41] <suigeneris> hi Dr.Nick
[21:42] <dangle> ok, i just did 'make clean' on it. can someone please walk me through what must me done?
[21:42] <new0> wafflejock, i also should read what you (all) write to me! i did man chmod instead of man chown.
[21:42] <deper29> dangle: just re-make
[21:43] <new0> wafflejock, not sure what it was. but not it's drwxrwxr-x 7 user ..........
[21:43] <new0> wafflejock, *but NOW it's ....
[21:43] <bekks> dangle: why dont you just install znc from the repos?
[21:43] <bekks> !info znc
[21:44] <dangle> ok
[21:44] <dangle> i have rebuilt it
[21:44] <bekks> dangle: Why?
[21:44] <suigeneris> what package do I need for qt4?
[21:45] <deper29> dangle: make clean usually just removes stuff that was built
[21:45] <new0> wafflejock, and i wasn't able to change the folder name even when i was on the group
[21:45] <dangle> i update things like gcc and other compiler workhorses
[21:46] <bekks> dangle: Whats the big picture? Why dont you just install znc from the repos?
[21:48] <dangle> oh right i am having another problem
[21:48] <bekks> dangle: So which is it?
[21:48] <dangle> dingle@dingle:~$ sudo apt-get update gcc
[21:48] <dangle> sudo: unable to resolve host dingle
[21:48] <bekks> dangle: then provide the IP of "dingle" in /etc/hosts or in the DNS server used.
[21:49] <bekks> dangle: Which ununt version are you on?
[21:49] <bekks> *ubuntu even
[21:49] <dangle> its suppose to be secretpolice.net
[21:49] <deper29> dangle: that isn't how that works
[21:50] <deper29> and I kind of agree with bekks here. why not just install znc from the repo? Why build that from source but not build gcc from source?
[21:51] <intrpngn> secretpolice.net  It works!
[21:51] <bekks> dangle: Which ubuntu version are you on?
[21:51] <dangle> its in repo?
[21:52] <dangle> secretpolice.net still doesnt work?
[21:52] <dangle> arg...........
[21:52] <bekks> dangle: Which ubuntu version are you on?
[21:52] <dangle> dingle@dingle:~$ sudo apt-get znc
[21:52] <dangle> sudo: unable to resolve host dingle
[21:52] <dangle> E: Invalid operation znc
[21:52] <dangle> 8 or some old shit like that
[21:53] <deper29> dangle: sudo apt-get install
[21:53] <bekks> dangle: thats out of support in here then.
[21:53] <dangle> no go
[21:54] <IdleOne> dangle: what does " lsb_release -a " tell you the version is?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> !info zn
[21:54] <bekks> !eolupgrades | dangle
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> !find znc
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> thar it be
[21:54] <dangle> No LSB modules are available.
[21:55] <dangle> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:55] <dangle> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[21:55] <dangle> Release:	10.04
[21:55] <dangle> Codename:	lucid
[21:55] <FloodBot1> dangle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <IdleOne> dangle: 10.04 is no longer supported on the desktop
[21:55] <dangle> shocking.
[21:56] <darkkblack> i got minecraft and installed it for ubntu but it wont let me select anything
[21:56] <dangle> IdleOne: this is on a vps, i cant control the versions of things
[21:56] <buu> So uh, why does ubuntu usb installer 13.10 boot to busybox on systems with more than one hard drive?
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> dangle: your just dingling from support, hehe
[21:56] <IdleOne> dangle: then you need to ask your provider to update it for you
[21:56] <deper29> dangle: just build from source then :P
[21:57] <darkkblack> can anybody help
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> buu: check the sum should  not be happening
[21:57] <IdleOne> darkkblack: the minecraft people can. minecraft is not in the repos, so we can't support it here.
[21:57] <dangle> i dont remember what my provider is
[21:58] <buu> wilee-nilee: checksum is fine, it happens to lots of people
[21:58] <IdleOne> dangle: you don't know who you pay for the vps?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> buu: Really, prove it.
[21:58] <buu> wilee-nilee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1241589
[22:00] <dangle> i got it
[22:01] <dangle> sh3lls.net
[22:01] <TDJACR> Is there a good way to set permissions on a directory such that when a user adds a file to that directory, the file group permissions are set to a group the user is in, but not the user's default group?
[22:02] <knifes_deuclion> what do you  think about ubuntu 13.10
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> buu: Heh,  not sure when 23 out of all possible users became a lot, but you go huh.
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> TDJACR  you want permissions to change automatically, when a file is placed in a specific folder?
[22:07] <knifes> what do you thank about ubuntu 13.10
[22:09] <k1l> knifes: its great :) but do you have a technical support issue with it?
[22:09] <Ubuntivity> Hello everyone
[22:10] <moppy> knifes, well it is an improvement over 13.04
[22:10] <Ubuntivity> My friend has a DELL Inspiron Mini 10 with XP preinstalled, I want to dual boot it with Ubuntu 12.04 but I found that its partitioning is confusing
[22:10] <suigeneris> what package do I need for qt4?
[22:11] <Ubuntivity> there is a partition named 'DellUtility' which is FAT16 and 41MB in size
[22:11] <bekks> suigeneris: apt-cache search qt4
[22:11] <knifes_deuclion> what do you thank about ubuntu 13.10
[22:11] <x_root> knifes_deuclion, using it now..
[22:11] <x_root> prefer 13.04
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntivity: take a screenshot of gparted on the install and imagebin it.
[22:12] <fztor> Ubuntivity: it contains dell utilities :o
[22:12] <suigeneris> bekks: I get quite a few results
[22:12] <Ubuntivity> wilee-nilee: gparted couldn't recognize the partitions, only disk utility did
[22:12] <k1l> Ubuntivity: its for the special bootup dell special OS, or for recovery. that depends on the make and model
[22:12] <Ubuntivity> fztor: are those utilities related to booting XP?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntivity: watch out for 4 primary partitions already the max allowed.
[22:13] <fztor> Ubuntivity: I remember mine had some bios flashing utilities and drivers, nothing I couldn't live without
[22:13] <bekks> Ubuntivity: they are related to dell.
[22:15] <knifes_deuclion> ubuntu 13.10 they are little fix to do but i like ubuntu 13.10
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntivity: Not recognized would be a red flag for me if not a unusual setup, may have a broken partition table or needs a chkdsk.
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> or dynamic
[22:17] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: yeah usually they'll install a recovery partition or a second partition with drivers and the like not going to be directly needed to run the main OS
[22:17] <knifes_deuclion> the error can be fix to make it better.
[22:18] <knifes_deuclion> you just have to find out how to fix it
[22:18] <Ubuntivity> wilee-nilee: so do you suggest I should perform fsck (or chkdsk if it is different)?
[22:19] <joossee> how do I install startx/GUI off the ubuntu CD?
[22:19] <Ubuntivity> wilee-nilee: or is there any better (and reliable) method to check the partition table for possible errors?
[22:19] <k1l> joossee: can you rephrase?
[22:19] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: think you should go with chkdsk, will verify the NTFS settings are good and check the disk
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntivity: never a fsck but a chkdsk might be the answer, hard to say without more info.
[22:19] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: fsck usually for Linux partitions
[22:20] <Ubuntivity> Ah I see.. thanks wafflejock and wilee-nilee.
[22:20] <joossee> kil; i cannot install startx using aptget bc machine has no inet...?
[22:20] <Ubuntivity> But will chkdsk fix problems as well as detecting them?
[22:20] <k1l> joossee: there is no startx. install a desktop. like ubuntu-desktop
[22:21]  * Ubuntivity goes to man chkdsk
[22:21] <joossee> kil;kil; can i do that off the install CD somehow?
[22:21] <k1l> joossee: i dont know what you try to do there
[22:21] <bekks> Ubuntivity: dont do that on the dell partition.
[22:21] <Ubuntivity> bekks: why?
[22:21] <fztor> Ubuntivity: if all else fails there's always SpinRite which can magically fix your harddrives (not a joke)
[22:21] <bekks> Ubuntivity: either dont touch it at all, or remove it.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntivity: hard to say a dynamic hd accidently made would not be fixed, probably not the issue, but one never knows without seeing.
[22:22] <bekks> Ubuntivity: Most likely, you will break it.
[22:22] <k1l> joossee: the install cd already got a working desktop. if you install ubuntu there will be a desktop
[22:22] <joossee> kill whats the command line to install ubuntu desktop?
[22:22] <revelation> hi
[22:22] <revelation> need help
[22:22] <Ubuntivity> bekks: what is the worst thing that can happen if I mess with DellUtility?
[22:23]  * Ubuntivity can't find chkdsk command on his Ubuntu ://
[22:23] <joossee> kil; i had to set some grub options to getmy displays to work? "quiet splash nomodeset" in grub. i can get to CLI but no windows?
[22:23] <bekks> Ubuntivity: you break it, something happens to your laptop later, you cant run the diagnostics, and dell refuses support.
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntivity: Is your friend backed up, and do you want the blame if not if it goes south?
[22:23] <k1l> joossee: if you did install a regular ubuntu there is a problem which stops the desktop from starting.
[22:23] <joossee> k1l; how do I launch ubuntu desktop?
[22:24] <bekks> Ubuntivity: so choose well, dont touch it, or live with the risk of losing support.
[22:24] <Ubuntivity> wilee-nilee: bekks: his laptop is off warranty, and I doubt he'll blame me later if I describe the risks for him (as soon as I understand them!)
[22:24] <k1l> joossee: so you should investigate what is causing that failure
[22:24] <joossee> k1l; its AMD video card
[22:24] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: if it's a new machine and you have the key and a OS disk not a huge risk doing much of anything... if there's data involved another story
[22:24] <fztor> Ubuntivity: you can safely delete the dell utilities
[22:24] <k1l> joossee: if you know you need to use nomodeset, then do it
[22:24] <joossee> k1l its on the forums but im not sure how to isntall the correct drivers for FireMV 2250
[22:24] <k1l> !nomodeset | joossee
[22:24] <bekks> Ubuntivity: And for running chkdsk, you need a Windows.
[22:25] <Ubuntivity> fztor: will deleting DellUtility affect the preinstalled Windows XP?
[22:25] <fztor> no
[22:25] <joossee> k1l; yes that I already set
[22:25] <joossee> otherwise I get black screens
[22:25] <Ubuntivity> bekks: what do you suggest for me to dual-boot it with XP and Ubuntu 12.04? Should I resize the factory-made NTFS partition to make space for Ubuntu?
[22:26] <bekks> !dualboot | Ubuntivity
[22:26] <k1l> joossee: i am not familiar with amd. but fglrx is the driver
[22:26] <k1l> !fglrx | joossee
[22:26] <joossee> fglrx ok i will look that up
[22:26] <joossee> ty
[22:26] <Ubuntivity> bekks: will resizing the NTFS partition reserve its contents?
[22:27] <notmath> where is a math channel anyone?
[22:27] <bekks> Ubuntivity: If in doubt, backup the data. Without a backup, you dont have anything worth to be kept.
[22:27] <LjL> notmath: type /msg alis list *math*
[22:28] <Ubuntivity> bekks: backup is my rule #1, but I'm wondering how would I backup Windows XP itself?
[22:28] <joossee> lol it actually sasy "nee ATI" lololol
[22:28] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: Clonezilla
[22:28] <DrGrov> Is there any way to force fullscreen in 13.10 for certain apps?
[22:29] <DrGrov> I keep having the upper bar in the way cluttering up precious space from VLC :/
[22:29] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: it's a burnable iso that boots up and has a program dd that will do block by block copy of an entire disk or partition
[22:29] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: it doesn't care what the file system is really so long as it can be mounted and or written depending on the scenario
[22:29] <Ubuntivity> wafflejock: can it be placed on a bootable USB? You know the Inspiron Mini has no CD drive.
[22:29] <k1l> DrGrov: doubleclick into vlc window
[22:30] <Ubuntivity> wafflejock: and doesn't every Linux distro has a dd tool?
[22:30] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: I imagine so though I've never tried... you could just use dd from within a liveCD
[22:30] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: yeah believe so
[22:30] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: clonezilla just gives a nice interface to connect to network and ask for what you want to do
[22:30] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: if CD isn't an option it's not as ideal
[22:30] <Ubuntivity> wafflejock: I could boot Ubuntu 12.04 on the Inspiron Mini using USB, and I'll be backing up to an external hard disk mostly
[22:31] <Ubuntivity> So I just need to figure out how to give dd the exact length of data to be 'backed up'???
[22:31] <DrGrov> k1l: That still keeps the top bar visible. I am trying to use custom VLC skins since they are more attractive and sexy.
[22:31] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: that should work fine you just have to make sure you get your "if" input and "of" output parameters correct
[22:31] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: you just tell it source and destination and block size
[22:31] <Ubuntivity> wafflejock: what does 'block size' represent?
[22:31] <DrGrov> k1l: But of course I could revert back to default VLC skin and leave it be :) Unless... There is a solution perhaps?
[22:31] <k1l> DrGrov: which desktop is this?
[22:31] <bekks> Ubuntivity: No.
[22:31] <DrGrov> k1l: Unity.
[22:32] <Ubuntivity> bekks: Pardon me?
[22:32] <wafflejock> bekks: why no?
[22:32] <k1l> DrGrov: its working for me. so its a theme or a nother desktop
[22:32] <bekks> Ubuntivity: you need to backup the entire disk to another disk which is bigger.
[22:32] <Ubuntivity> bekks: you mean I should backup /dev/sda as a whole and not /dev/sda1 or sda2, right?
[22:32] <bekks> Ubuntivity: correct.
[22:33] <Ubuntivity> bekks: So, is that possible with dd?
[22:33] <wafflejock> yeah that's fine... what were you saying N about
[22:33] <bekks> Ubuntivity: sure.
[22:33] <k1l> DrGrov: if the theme is the problem, ask the vlc themer. i dont think we can support vlc themes in here due lack of knowledge about that
[22:33] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: The value provided for block size options is interpreted as a decimal (base 10) integer, and can also include suffixes to indicate multiplication. The suffix w means multiplication by 2, b means 512, k means 1024, M means 1024 × 1024, G means 1024 × 1024 × 1024, and so on. Additionally, some implementations understand the x character as a multiplication operator for both block size and count parameters
[22:33] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: that from wikipedia... I've usually seen 4M used
[22:34] <Ubuntivity> wafflejock: bekks: is there a particular rule to choose a certain blocksize?
[22:34] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: not entirely sure but I've heard higher usually results in a faster transfer since it's moving more data at once but can run into RAM issues at some point
[22:34] <Freysh> hi, i'm trying to install windows on my ubuntu computer and i can't, is there some tutorials?
[22:34] <bekks> Ubuntivity: it should be the minimu of the disk cache of both disks involved.
[22:34] <wafflejock> I think clonezilla uses 4M but don't entirely recall... I know that's used a lot for the raspberry pi images
[22:34] <fztor> wafflejock: it should be approx the size of the hd buffer, so it writes and reads at almost the same rate
[22:34] <wafflejock> fztor:
[22:34] <wafflejock> thx
[22:35] <DrGrov> k1l: No worries, it seems like the top bar is somehow affecting it all. No worries, default it is until I find some solution. Thanks for the help :)
[22:35] <Ubuntivity> bekks: How to determine those?
[22:35] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: see fztor comment
[22:35] <bekks> Ubuntivity: by looking up the specs of both disks.
[22:35] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity:   it should be approx the size of the hd buffer, so it writes and reads at almost the same rate
[22:35] <bekks> wafflejock: I already told him...
[22:35] <bekks> wafflejock: we are even one step ahead.
[22:36] <fztor> bekks, Ubuntivity: ... or set it to 16M, you might save 10 minutes getting it "right"
[22:36] <Ubuntivity> fztor: I don't mind waiting, but I want to do it safely
[22:36] <bekks> Ubuntivity: then just use bs=16M
[22:36] <Ubuntivity> I can't find the buffer size in "Disk Utility" of ubuntu, is there a commandline tool for that?
[22:37] <fztor> Ubuntivity: hdparm -I /dev/sda
[22:37] <Ubuntivity> bekks: 16M is fine? Even for an old computer?
[22:37] <bekks> Ubuntivity: Find out the make and model of your harddisks, and look up the specs on the datasheets of the manufacturers.
[22:37] <bekks> Ubuntivity: Yes.
[22:37]  * Ubuntivity is recording notes
[22:38] <Foxhoundz> How do I add a user to a group? (specifically www-data) and how do I edit permissions for www-data
[22:38] <Ubuntivity> bekks: one more issue: will dd stop when it completes copying /dev/sda ?
[22:39] <Ubuntivity> bekks: or it will keep copying 'garbage'??
[22:39] <bekks> Ubuntivity: It will copy the entire source to the target. Nothing less, nothing more.
[22:40] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: useradd is the command
[22:40] <wafflejock> editing permissions is done on a per file/directory basis
[22:40] <Ubuntivity> bekks: what if it kept going after the actual size?
[22:40] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: sorry usermod I believe for existing user... one sec
[22:40] <Ubuntivity> bekks: I mean the Disk Utility is reading some irrational free space at the end of the disk
[22:40] <bekks> Ubuntivity: It will not.
[22:40] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[22:41] <DrGrov> Hello
[22:41] <bekks> Ubuntivity: dd copies the entire source to the target. And I strongly doubt that you can magically increase a harddisk size.
[22:41] <DrGrov> Testing
[22:41] <Ubuntivity> bekks: Thanks, I hope it doesn't :)
[22:41] <Ubuntivity> bekks: I'm just worried of imaginary space, that is.
[22:41] <DrGrov> Testing
[22:41] <Ubuntivity> bekks: Forgive my obsessive behaviour, but better safe than sorry
[22:42] <DrGrov> Testing
[22:42] <joossee> k1l what does nomodest actuallydo?? it forces a generic driver or...?
[22:42] <DrGrov> Testing
[22:42] <wafflejock> DrGrov: we see you
[22:42] <hadifarn_> what's wrong with this pac proxy? http://hadi.dyn.dhs.org:8888/test.pac
[22:42] <Ubuntivity> bekks: so the command should be "dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/<whatever-my-file-is> bs=16M" ?
[22:42] <DrGrov> Sorry, testing out irssi themes but I forgot I am in the channel :D
[22:43] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: looks good from here
[22:43] <bekks> Ubuntivity: Yes.
[22:44] <Ubuntivity> bekks, wafflejock: the "bs=16M" is correct? or should be expressed differently?
[22:44] <wafflejock> thats fine
[22:44] <bekks> Ubuntivity: "is... correct?" "Yes."
[22:45] <Ubuntivity> bekks: Sorry for that grammatical error, I'm not native English :)
[22:45] <kobina> hi everyone
[22:45] <bekks> Ubuntivity: I just already answered that the command is correct. :)
[22:46] <Ubuntivity> bekks: I know :) I was just apologizing about my incorrect question form.
[22:46] <wafflejock> hello kobina
[22:48] <Ubuntivity> well, thanks guys wilee-nilee, fztor, k1l, bekks, and wafflejock for the help today ^_^
[22:48] <DrGrov> Now testing is over. wafflejock, sorry about that.
[22:48]  * Ubuntivity sends a special greeting to wafflejock and bekks
[22:49] <[Wit]katzy> one thing that bothers me the most is lack of hibernate option
[22:49] <[Wit]katzy> I've somehow enabled it in 13.04, but now after upgrade it doesn't work again
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> [Wit]katzy, It can be setup generally.
[22:50] <[Wit]katzy> I've managed to update it too, but it disappeared recently
[22:50] <[Wit]katzy> and I have to look it up again
[22:50] <wafflejock> DrGrov: no worries just letting you know
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> oh my how will you live
[22:50] <Ubuntivity> bekks: is it OK to go with BS=16M even if my "cache/buffer size  = 8192 KBytes"?
[22:50]  * Ubuntivity feels too obsessive today
[22:50] <wafflejock> Ubuntivity: np hope you get it sorted
[22:51] <[Wit]katzy> there are few advices on internet, from which only one seems to work for me
[22:51] <[Wit]katzy> however I'm asking why its not there at the first place?
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> [Wit]katzy, check askubuntu
[22:51] <joossee> can anyone recommend a good USB wireless nic that works with the 12.04 installer?
[22:52] <bekks> Ubuntivity: then use 8M...
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> joossee, There are some certified, never found one that didn't, and this is not polling.
[22:52] <joossee> ive searched high andlowforthis and there isno concensus? HWCompatibilityList says some work but others reportproblems. is there a confirmedone that works??
[22:52] <Ubuntivity> bekks: So I should use the lower value of the two mediums, right?
[22:52] <bekks> Ubuntivity: thats what I said, yes.
[22:52] <joossee> wilee-nilee, you mean the ones on the HWcompatibilitylist ?
[22:52] <Ubuntivity> thanks bekks
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> joossee, No ones from the local store, amazon is full of ones marked to work with linux.
[22:53]  * Ubuntivity feels its gonna be interesting hacky adventure to get Ubuntu 12.04 on that Inspiron Mini!
[22:54] <joossee> wilee-nilee, i dont need "works with"... i need one that works in the CD installer
[22:54] <joossee> 12.04
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> joossee, Not sure exactly what you mean, but again this is not polling, but support.
[22:57] <joossee> wilee-nilee, oic. well... having a working wireless connection during install seems like a support issue? ive tried 4 of them and none work...?
[22:57] <sobocanecben> Can anyone recomend weather applet for pinguy 13.04 for Australia?
[22:58] <wafflejock> joossee: are any in the list? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> joossee, Yes it is, but not polling for one, how about we see if the one you have works.
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> sobocanecben, pinguy is not suppoted here, they have a channel.
[22:58] <wafflejock> joossee: I can tell you what the builtin chipset is for my wireless on a computer that came with 12.04... don't have experience installing 12.04 with any of my random USB adapters though
[22:58] <joossee> ive checked that page, none i tried are on it. but when you google the actual oneslisted as compatible, thereare many conflicting reports about their actualcompatibility and function..?
[22:59] <sobocanecben> thanks sorry...
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> sobocanecben, #PinguyOS
[23:00] <wafflejock> joossee: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[23:00] <joossee> wafflejock, isnt anything with ath9k supposed to work?
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> joossee, Can you identify the wifi you have with running lspci in the terminal? So you have no access to an ethernet ever?
[23:01] <skeuomorf> guys, what's the current state of hybrid graphics for ATI radeon chipsets? do we have proper power management yet or what?
[23:01] <bekks> !ath9k | joossee
[23:01] <bekks> hmm.
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> ah ath9k
[23:01] <joossee> wilee-nilee, i cant run a cable
[23:01] <DrGrov> wafflejock: I finally start to feel like I got a perfect setup now. Feel like home after being without a Linux machine in almost 7 months.
[23:01] <kobina> pls can someone help me with this in Backtrack...Could not find pg-0.16.0 in any of the sources
[23:01] <kobina> Run `bundle install` to install missing gems.
[23:02] <bekks> joossee: Does your computer have a wired ethernet interface?
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> !Backtrack | kobina
[23:02] <joossee> bekks 2 in fact
[23:02] <semajnad_> Hello, I've got a folder structure of /home/thenetwork/usr001/Minecraft - Minecraft is where usr001 is CHROOTED to when he logs into SFTP. Usr001 is a member of the group thenetwork. Now the permissions for this folder at the moment are rwxr-xr-x however when I change them to rwxrwxrwx the user can not longer log-into sftp, do you know why this might be?
[23:02] <bekks> joossee: Then use one of them for the installation.
[23:02] <joossee> lol it is hella far away
[23:02] <wafflejock> DrGrov: cool glad to hear you're getting into a nice groove
[23:02] <joossee> maybe my cheapest fix though
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> joossee, I have a 32 ft ethernet here going to my tv
[23:02] <wafflejock> joossee: yeah tried looking around can't find my chipset in a USB
[23:02] <joossee> hrmmmmmmm\
[23:02] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Thanks. I should probably post a picture sooner or later of my absolutely milfish sexy background.
[23:03] <bekks> joossee: Thats the cheapest and fastest fix.
[23:03] <joossee> ok i think i will just try that
[23:03] <joossee> fukit!
[23:03] <DrGrov> wafflejock: And just to clarify, milfish not being MILF
[23:03] <DrGrov> wafflejock: MILF = May I Look Further?
[23:03] <joossee> although in theory i would like to have one that works for other installs
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, This is a worldwide all ages channel that crosses cultural and ethnic boundaries.
[23:04] <fikir> What is the main purpose of ubuntu?
[23:04] <bekks> fikir: Being an operating system.
[23:05] <wafflejock> fikir: yeah to pass resources between programs and give you a nice interface
[23:05] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, I know. But I wanted to clarify my version of what that meant.
[23:05] <wafflejock> fikir: that's basically what operating systems do... manage all those crazy chips
[23:05] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: And I think I did not step over anyones toes.
[23:05] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: But if I did I apologize.
[23:06] <semajnad_> Hello, I've got a folder structure of /home/thenetwork/usr001/Minecraft - Minecraft is where usr001 is CHROOTED to when he logs into SFTP. Usr001 is a member of the group thenetwork. Now the permissions for this folder at the moment are rwxr-xr-x however when I change them to rwxrwxrwx the user can not longer log-into sftp, do you know why this might be?
[23:07] <wafflejock> semajnad_: believe you may not be allowed to have a writeable folder that you chroot into with vsftpd
[23:07] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: And to still clarify, I meant with sexish that it is beautiful. That I firmly believe is not in this case sexually offensive for anyone since I clarified my state of.
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> semajnad_, #minecraft might be more the place that is a 3rd party here.
[23:07] <wafflejock> semajnad_: did you restart the service?
[23:07] <DrGrov> But nevermind, I shall remove myself.
[23:07] <semajnad_> wilee-nilee: It's just a folder name, not the actual game.
[23:08] <semajnad_> wafflejock: Is that with service ssh restart?
[23:08] <wafflejock> semajnad_: ah sorry didn't get the first part of that thought you were doing the vsftpd stuff diff person
[23:08] <semajnad_> wafflejock:  Oh no
[23:08] <semajnad_> wafflejock: I don't get it,  the chroot works fine, but the user can't write to the folder. So when I give them permission, it stops them logging in?
[23:09] <bekks> semajnad_: you are mixing up ftp and sftp again.
[23:09] <semajnad_> bekks: I said sftp didn't i?
[23:10] <semajnad_> bekks: Ye I did, and I mean sftp
[23:12] <semajnad_> bekks: So do you know why when I add extra permissions it stops them logging in?
[23:12] <bekks> semajnad_: As fasr as I know the base folder of a chroot is not supposed to be writable by the user chrooting in.
[23:13] <semajnad_> bekks: Are really? So if I make a folder they enter inside that, that one should be writable
[23:14] <wafflejock> semajnad_: if they have permission for writing to the sub folder then yes
[23:14] <bekks> semajnad_: that one may be writable then, yes.
[23:14] <semajnad_> wafflejock: So basically you shouldn't give them write permissions in their chroot directory and this may stop them logging in.
[23:14] <wafflejock> semajnad_: I believe so... believe it has somethig to do with users being able to "break out" of the jail if they have write access to the directory for some reason
[23:15] <semajnad_> wafflejock: No I've just given the permissions 770 to a directory inside it and now I can't enter that directory.
[23:16] <semajnad_> wafflejock: But giving the directory 757 lets them write to it :/
[23:16] <semajnad_> surely if the directory 'new' inside 'Minecraft' is set to the group thenetwork and the user is thenetwork group, then I should be able to use 775 and let them group write to it :/
[23:18] <wafflejock> semajnad_: was the user in the group prior to logging in?
[23:18] <semajnad_> wafflejock: Yes
[23:18] <Ben64> chroot changes stuff
[23:18] <semajnad_> wafflejock: oh damn hold on
[23:19] <semajnad_> Ye the folder wasn't owned properly, as I made it under root it had root:root permissions
[23:19] <semajnad_> So it's fixed now but chown it to root:thenetwork
[23:19] <semajnad_> Thanks for the help.
[23:19] <wafflejock> semajnad_: np
[23:19] <gfrostboss> quit
[23:32] <lokigr> i need to buy a usb hub (10 ports), can someone to recommend a compatible one? basically i found one manufactured by TRUST...:) but i do not know if it works with linux to prcced :)
[23:32] <bekks> lokigr: Linux works with USB.
[23:32] <Kove> every usb hub will work with linux
[23:33] <lokigr> bekks i have already purchase some ... greenasia hubs (3) that do not
[23:33] <Kove> lokigr, does it work with a windows machine? have you tried ?
[23:34] <lokigr> yes it work nice with windows!!!
[23:35] <lokigr> i made a search in google and ..guess there are meny people having problem with greenassia usb hub
[23:36] <gh0st> aloha
[23:36] <Kove> really strange lokigr. Do that peripherical have some addictional function ?
[23:37] <lokigr> NO ..
[23:37] <CodeOmegaPrime> maybe someone can enlighten me on how to fix gnome3 blanking the monitor no matter what I do, in fact every desktop environment does it and after a few times it locks up.
[23:37] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ubuntu 13.10
[23:37] <CodeOmegaPrime> .04* sorry
[23:37] <gh0st> so, got a problem.  Unity has all these nice tray apps, but i don't like unity.  So i was hoping i could get all those tray apps to work in fluxbox.  (Like for example nm-applet, gnome-sound-applet etc)
[23:38] <gh0st> need the name of the bluetooth applet (the binary in /usr/bin)
[23:38] <gh0st> and the one for the battery (in 13.10)
[23:38] <gh0st> plz&thx
[23:39] <meanmethodz> hello
[23:39] <gh0st> hello
[23:39] <gh0st> anyone?
[23:39] <mukti> gh0st: are they unity specific apps, or just programs linked in the unity tray?
[23:40] <gh0st> i don't know.  There used to be gnome-power-manager (was the battery indicator) but it seems they've fazed that out
[23:41] <skeuomorf> Hey guys, I am trying to get vim and tmux to play together nicely, but I am failing at that, vim doesn't display the background correctly, and I have searched the interwebz and tried a lot of things but to no avail, here's my .bashrc file http://pastebin.com/uYrbRdPL my .vimrc file http://pastebin.com/vUgiCXKk and my tmux.conf  file http://pastebin.com/EzZEW4Dw
[23:42] <gh0st> i just don't like unity.  I mean, i've had friends who loved it, but i just can't stand it
[23:43] <Guest37823> how can I get more workspaces in gnome?
[23:43] <viper474> gh0st: sudo apt-get install xfce4 ?
[23:44] <CodeOmegaPrime> Guest37823 install gnome extensions
[23:45] <mukti> gh0st: If you don't know the names of the apps, it's going to be hard to find out what to install. If you're just looking for a power manager, I've used xfce4-power-manager in the past
[23:46] <gh0st> i just don't want to have 2 power managers installed
[23:46] <gh0st> if unity already has one, why can't i just use that one in another wm?
[23:47] <sedeki> how do I get more workspaces?
[23:49] <mukti> gh0st: you can; I misunderstood you and thought you were looking to install them.
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> sedeki, This the gnome shell and what release?
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> or unity?
[23:50] <sedeki> 3.9.90
[23:50] <sedeki> hm. how do I check that?
[23:50] <gh0st> i was just looking to get the tray apps and associated services running in fluxbox instead of unity
[23:50] <gh0st> like getting bluetooth to work for instance
[23:50] <gh0st> and a battery indicator
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> sedeki, check what 3 questions there?
[23:51] <sedeki> wilee-nilee, gnome-shell or unity?
[23:52] <gh0st> anyway, i'm going to have to disconnect here, because i have to connect two computers together via ad-hoc wifi, but while i'm doing that i can't connect to that wifi while at the same time connecting to my internet connection's wifi
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> sedeki, lsb_release -a will tell you the release, the shell hyou would of had to install, or download the shell only install. Do you have a panel on the left?
[23:54] <syaelendra> hi all
[23:57] <netm_> Hi - trying to move my controllers into folders - "syntax error, unexpected 'Public' (T_PUBLIC), expecting identifier (T_STRING)" for a controller called PublicController - is public protected/used ?
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> sedeki, My guess would be unity you can make more workspaces from the right click area on the desktop.
[23:58] <sedeki> wilee-nilee, i have a panel on the left
[23:58] <sedeki> wilee-nilee, i cannot make more workspaces right clicking on the desktop
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> sedeki, sounds like unity check the right click on the desktop options, then click on the secondary tabs, yes you can needs to be unlocked.
[23:59] <sedeki> wilee-nilee,  ah, thanks!