[01:11] <[|HuGO|]> hi can help me please?
[09:59] <ddk> Рус есть?
[09:59] <ddk> anybody rus?
[10:11] <shadeslayer> !ru
[10:11] <shadeslayer> ddk: ^^
[10:12] <ddk> okay... =(
[10:15] <elhana> !eo
[10:15] <elhana> lol
[10:16] <elhana> there is noone in esperanto channel :(
[10:32] <Oranger> !fr
[10:55] <Meizirkki> hi
[10:56] <Meizirkki> I'm thinking about getting a nexus 10 and installing ubuntu
[10:57] <Meizirkki> How much different is the Ubuntu Tablet os from the desktop ubuntu?
[10:57] <Meizirkki> It's using android kernel and stuff?
[10:58] <Meizirkki> sorry got to go nevermind
[11:29] <Meizirkki> Hi again
[11:30] <Meizirkki> Sorry i had to catch a bus
[11:31] <Meizirkki> Is ubuntu-touch using wayland?
[11:31] <shadeslayer> nope
[11:31] <shadeslayer> it's using SurfaceFlinger at the moment and will use Mir in the future
[11:31] <Meizirkki> Oh
[11:31] <shadeslayer> as for your question regarding the Nexus 10, the UI is fairly different from the desktop ui
[11:32] <shadeslayer> then again, I don't use unity, so I'm probably not the best person to listen to ;)
[11:32] <Meizirkki> Yes, i'm more curious of the technologies used
[11:32] <Meizirkki> I don't use unity either
[11:33] <Meizirkki> I'm a fAn of e17
[11:33] <Meizirkki> And so i was curious whether i could compile and run it on nexus
[11:33] <shadeslayer> me and some other folks here are trying to get a debootstrapped ubuntu running
[11:33] <shadeslayer> on the Nexus 10
[11:33] <Meizirkki> Awesome
[11:33] <shadeslayer> without any android bits
[11:34] <shadeslayer> so far the status is that it needs an initrd, ChickenCutlass was working on that
[11:34] <shadeslayer> no idea if he got it up
[11:34] <Meizirkki> Okay
[11:35] <Meizirkki> Is the nexus 10 hardware similar to the chromebook ?
[11:35] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:35] <Meizirkki> Part from cpu, that is
[11:35] <Meizirkki> A*
[11:35] <Meizirkki> Hmmhmm
[11:35] <plot44> Hi  anyone used ubuntu touch on lenovo s10 netbook/tablet?
[11:36] <Meizirkki> I've been considering both chromebook3 and nexus 10 lately, but neither is available in finland too easily :/
[11:36] <shadeslayer> Meizirkki: the idea is to flash the userdata partition with the ubuntu rootfs and flash a working initrd + kernel combo to boot.img and pass root=/dev/block/mmcblk0p9 to the boot parameters
[11:36] <shadeslayer> yeah, I got mine from the UK, so expensive to get these :/
[11:39] <Meizirkki> Okay :) i'm not much of a coder/hacker but when I get my nexus 10 i'll gladly help you guys any way i can. I can do testing and bug reporting :)
[11:39] <shadeslayer> :)
[11:40] <shadeslayer> as soon as I have a working initrd I can make images :P
[11:41] <Meizirkki> What's the problem with initrd atm?
[11:41] <shadeslayer> for me it bootloops
[11:41] <shadeslayer> no serial console to look at, so debugging is hard
[11:41] <Meizirkki> Ok
[11:45] <Meizirkki> Cya later
[11:45] <shadeslayer> bye
[12:00] <ogra_> shadeslayer, what ChickenCutlass works on has nothing to do with getting rid of the android bits (pretty much the opposite)
[12:00] <shadeslayer> oh
[12:00] <ogra_> he works on moving the android bits into a special container so that the ubuntu rootfs can instead move out of the container
[12:00] <shadeslayer> ogra_: by android bits I meant not using /system
[12:01] <ogra_> its a flip ... not a removal of anything
[12:01] <shadeslayer> ahhhh
[12:01] <ogra_> it will still use /system and fully depend on the andrpid HW bits
[12:01] <shadeslayer> I see
[12:02] <shadeslayer> but no SurfaceFlinger ?
[12:02] <shadeslayer> and Mir ( or if I want, X) instead?
[12:02] <ogra_> same thing as today ... no changes at all
[12:02] <shadeslayer>  I see
[12:02] <ogra_> the container flip wont change anything apart from the fact that you will be able to use udev and friends (which you currently cant in the container)
[12:03] <shadeslayer> okay, so it'll stil use SurfaceFlinger .. hmm
[12:03] <ogra_> and the the /proc space is handled differently
[12:03] <ogra_> no cahnges ... as i said
[12:03] <shadeslayer> right
[12:04] <ogra_> it will soon be Mir but thats totally independent from the container stuff
[12:04] <shadeslayer> ah well, I'll have to wait for his initrd since I can't get it to boot at the moment :P
[12:04] <ogra_> you cant boot with a std ubuntu initrd ?
[12:04] <ogra_> that should just work
[12:04] <shadeslayer> nope, it bootloops
[12:04] <shadeslayer> well weird
[12:05] <shadeslayer> oh
[12:05] <ogra_> what do you use exactly atm ?
[12:05] <shadeslayer> there was one other issue
[12:05] <shadeslayer> when I flashed userdata using fastboot, I got a failiure saying something about sign
[12:05] <ogra_> a self compiled kernel from the android source with options changed, a std ubuntu initd and a debootstrap based rootfs should just work
[12:05] <shadeslayer> sec
[12:06] <shadeslayer> yep what I did was : abootimage -x boot.img
[12:06] <ogra_> something identically to the nexus7 image
[12:06] <ogra_> (teh desktop one)
[12:06] <shadeslayer> then grab the zImage from that, an initrd from a debootstrapped ubuntu with the kernel installed + root=/path/to/userdata
[12:06] <ogra_> that cant work
[12:06] <shadeslayer> oh?
[12:06] <ogra_> you need a sanely comppiled kernel
[12:07] <shadeslayer> I see
[12:07] <ogra_> with things like fbcon enabled
[12:07] <shadeslayer> I am not entirely certain as to what options I do need to enable, do you have a list of sorts?
[12:07] <shadeslayer> I can have a look tomorrow then
[12:08] <ogra_> start with the kernel, and get it to output console stuff on your screen ... thats a good start (might need cmdline changes too ... some android devices set contole= (with no value) which breaks output)
[12:09] <ogra_> once you are at that point, get an ubuntu initrd to work ... (it helps to have a USB keyboard) and break into it (cmdline option break=top or  whatever break level you want)
[12:10] <ogra_> if you are done with that you can mount partitions, copy rootfs tarballs around, etc
[12:10] <ogra_> that should eventually get you to a working rootfs
[12:10] <ogra_> if you have *that* running you start caring for X
[12:10] <shadeslayer> heh :)
[12:11] <ogra_> i should write a howto one day
[12:11] <ogra_> the process differs slightly from device to device ... but its the same thinng in its basics every time
[12:24] <spanner3003>  i trying to build unity-next on ubuntu 12.10 and i keep getting CMakeFiles/test-voice.dir/test-voice.c.o: In function `context_drain_complete': /media/android/Development/unity/unity_build/hud/tests/test-voice.c:107: undefined reference to `pa_context_disconnect' for every reference to pulseaudio in test-voice.c
[12:25] <shadeslayer> ogra_: does the kernel need to be compiled with the ubuntu toolchain or the Android one?
[12:32] <spanner3003> this is the whole output from the start of the error http://pastebin.com/bND2DCbj
[12:38] <Namidairo> pulse seems to be missing
[12:38] <Namidairo> cursory google would have showed that
[12:42] <spanner3003> pulseaudio is installed
[12:42] <shadeslayer> ogra_: and when you say start with the kernel, you mean the one from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/samsung.git
[13:50] <ogra_> shadeslayer, userspace doesnt care with what the kernel is compiled (i would use the ubuntu toolchain because its simply easier) ... and yes, whatever the android source tree for your device is
[14:01] <shadeslayer> ogra_: thanks :)
[14:13] <spanner3003> would anyone be willing to help me to port ubuntu-touch to the asus PadFone 2, atm i'm trying to build cm10.1 for it but as it is not supported i finding it hard
[15:01] <shadeslayer> ogra_: re enabling fbcon, is that FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE  in .config?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> interesting
[15:14] <shadeslayer> exynos4_defconfig sets console=ttySAC1
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ogra_: @_@ .... the source from the git repo doesn't even build :/
[16:22] <shadeslayer> I'll try the cyanogenmod kernel now
[16:28] <shadeslayer> #$43t
[16:28] <shadeslayer> wrong git repo :/
[16:59] <iz1glg> hello. anybody here?
[17:00] <kvarley> yup
[17:04] <RobbyF> hi
[17:15] <iz1glg> hi guys.. can anyone explain me if on ubuntu touch I can install deb apps or if it is just an android with different user interface ?
[17:30] <Luis__> hello?
[17:41] <NOTE2Owner> Wondering if anyone knows if there are any developers working on touch for SCH-I605 Samsung Note 2?
[17:52] <_polto_> hi
[18:05] <_polto_> I just installed touch on my nexux4, how can I create a new user please ? Really, can't find any info about on the web.
[19:07] <_polto_> how can I run a shell ? adb shell open some limited android shell.
[19:07] <_polto_> I would like to create a new user, install SSH, and some other services...
[19:12] <_polto_> ok, find everything here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:32] <SecretFire> can I put ubuntu touch on my motorola atrix 4g?
[20:36] <RobbyF>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[21:36] <n-iCe> hello guys, the GS3 GT-I9300 is not supported, can I do something to install it and try it or to help to make it work?


[00:20] <lifeless> wgrant: hi
[00:21] <lifeless> wgrant: do you know of any soyuz services that do librarian uploads (directly)
[00:22] <wgrant> lifeless: process-upload.py, buildd-manager, process-pending-packagediffs.py
[00:22] <wgrant> There may be more... thinking...
[00:23] <wgrant> gina
[00:23] <wgrant> Possibly process-accepted.py, for translations stuff.
[00:24] <wgrant> Also the mirror prober, although most seem so not think that it's Soyuz.
[01:01] <lifeless> wgrant: there is an rt needs to know
[01:04] <wgrant> lifeless: Which ticket?
[01:35] <lifeless> wgrant: HA librarian upload, in the launchpad queue
[01:35] <lifeless> wgrant: we need the machines those soyuz things run on added to firewall rules
[01:37] <wgrant> lifeless: Perhaps the ticket is not visible to warthogs.
[01:37] <wgrant> I cannot see it.
[02:40] <lifeless> bah
[02:40] <lifeless> uhm
[02:40] <lifeless> it is visible to warthogs
[02:43] <lifeless> 41379
[02:43] <lifeless> wgrant: ^
[02:44] <wgrant> lifeless: Oh, it's using a custom status that's not in the default filter.
[02:48] <wgrant> lifeless: So: cesium, cocoplum, germanium, iron at least need adding to the list.
[02:49] <wgrant> I'm also somewhat surprised that loganberry isn't there.
[11:59] <pcjc2> is there any guide / examples which I could follow for writing a git commit hook to change bug statuses in LP ?
[11:59] <pcjc2> I'm figuring that I need to setup a LP account for my "commit hook", so it can authenticate as "gpleda.org Commit Hook robot" or something
[12:00] <pcjc2> The intention is to parse our git commits for "Closes-bug: lp-12345", and turn that into an API request which closes the bug
[12:01] <pcjc2> I figure it is easiest to have the robot user close the bug, but it would also be possible (in theory at least), to grab the committer / author email from the commit, look them up on LP (or via a mapping table we could maintain locally), then _pretend_ the bug closure was done by that user
[12:02] <pcjc2> (Although I'm not sure how to go about getting developers to authorise the robot to close bugs on their behalf)
[12:02] <maxb> to do that, the robot would have to have access to impersonate all your committers. Unlikely they'd accept that
[12:02] <pcjc2> "they" as in LP, or "they" as in our developers?
[12:02] <maxb> the rest ought to be pretty trivial with python's launchpadlib
[12:03] <maxb> b = lp.bugs[12345]; b.status = "Fix Released"; b.lp_save()  ---- or thereabouts
[12:03] <pcjc2> Getting the robot to authenticate might be an issue, but I've not read into it so much
[12:03] <pcjc2> maxb: That IS easy.. (easier than I expected) ;)
[12:04] <maxb> You probably want to add a comment to the bug too
[12:04] <pcjc2> of course.. with a link to the SHA1 which closed it
[12:04] <pcjc2> copy the commit message too - whatever
[12:04] <pcjc2> doesn't the robot / LP-lib client have to log on via OpenID ?
[12:05] <maxb> No, OAuth
[12:07]  * pcjc2 reads https://help.launchpad.net/API/SigningRequests
[12:08] <pcjc2> we could get our developers to opt-in and allow the robot to impersonate them I guess? From the sounds of that
[12:11] <maxb> well, you'd have to get them to opt-in to allowing your bot to impersonate them for any api action on Launchpad
[12:11] <maxb> anyone with any sort of security instinct would refuse
[12:12] <maxb> I would
[12:14] <maxb> oh, one thing I missed from my pseudo-code is that you need to change status on a bug_task not a bug
[12:15] <maxb> So you iterate the bug.bug_tasks collection to find the one that is for your project
[12:15] <pcjc2> got it.
[12:16] <pcjc2> Stupid question - how should I go about creating a LP user for my bot?
[12:16] <maxb> Just sign up as a new user, using a dedicated email address for the bot
[12:17] <pcjc2> (And presumably I can manually go through the steps of authenticating the bot to that user, then store the auth keys in the bot)
[12:17] <maxb> indeed
[12:17] <pcjc2> hmm - that is not so good... if I need a dedicated email for the bot
[12:17] <pcjc2> I don't have one - and I can't think where to set one up which isn't amaturish
[12:17] <pcjc2><EMAIL_ADDRESS>or whatever
[12:18] <pcjc2> Any way to have a bot without an email address?
[12:19] <maxb> LP users are always identified by their email address
[12:19] <wgrant> An active Launchpad account requires an email address, unfortunately.
[12:22] <pcjc2> Imported users from SF don't always have email addresses - is that a special case?
[12:22] <wgrant> They're not active.
[13:31] <pcjc2> I've asked our project admin to set up an email address (If possible) on the domain hosting out git repository
[16:02] <maxb> pcjc2: Oh, by the way, if you want to track people closing bugs, you might choose to change the assignee of the bug task (if it's not already set) in your robot
[17:15] <pcjc2> maxb: good idea
[17:15] <pcjc2> A friend of mine set up an email alias with his domain provider, so... I now have:
[17:15] <pcjc2> https://launchpad.net/~gpleda-launchpad-robot
[17:16] <pcjc2> (Now just have to write the code to make it do my bidding ;))
[20:35] <pcjc2> https://login.launchpad.net/+forgot_password
[20:36] <pcjc2> Does that require any lp-dev interaction - there are a few of our users who want to do bug triage, but they have forgotten their LP passwords
[20:42] <pcjc2> apparently they haven't received any email with confirmation code
[20:50] <pcjc2> anyone about?
[20:50] <lifeless> hi
[20:51] <pcjc2> Apparently the email sent by https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge?field.dupe_person=djdelorie is not going through for that user
[20:51] <lifeless> lp no longer stores passwords
[20:51] <lifeless> thats really an alias to login.ubuntu.com
[20:51] <pcjc2> I got the wrong end of the stick with the original complaint
[20:51] <pcjc2> he wants to merge ~djdelorie and ~dj-delorie
[20:51] <lifeless> ah ok
[20:52] <pcjc2> (~dj-delorie is the registered on LP account, but he wishes to rename it to ~djdelorie (the one which will be merged), once the merge is done)
[20:52] <lifeless> sure
[20:52] <lifeless> so what happens when he merges
[20:52] <pcjc2> DJ is a smart guy (developer of DJGPP and all that), so I trust him when he says the mail doesn't get through - he's been watching his server logs
[20:52] <pcjc2> the email alias from the bug import I had is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:52] <pcjc2> but it would appear the confirmation email is getting lost in the process
[20:53] <lifeless> ok
[20:53] <lifeless> so possibilities are:
[20:53] <lifeless>  - our outbound mail is on the blink (low, very reliable service)
[20:54] <lifeless>  - greylisting is in place at one or more of the mail providers chaining through users.sf.net
[20:54] <lifeless>  - the mail chain is incorrect and mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>doesn't end up where you'd want it to
[20:54] <lifeless> AIUI the usual thing is greylisting
[20:54] <pcjc2> strange thing is my bug export has<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:55] <pcjc2> but he says when he tries to claim it, Launchpad says the email is going to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:55] <pcjc2> any chance we can cheat this one, or does that need a LOSA?
[20:55] <lifeless> there is a link on the page to file support tickets
[20:55] <lifeless> under 'note:'
[20:56] <lifeless> also this is a email address search bug
[20:56] <lifeless> sorry
[20:56] <lifeless> spam protection bug
[20:56] <lifeless> shouldn't be able to get the email address for an arbitrary user by requesting a merge
[20:56] <lifeless> pcjc2: please let him know I clicked through myself to verify, so one of the confirmations he may receive is to merge with me... I advise against doing that :)
[20:57] <pcjc2> he just got YOUR email lifeless ;)
[20:57] <pcjc2> but he never got his own
[20:57] <lifeless> interesting
[20:57] <lifeless> uhm
[20:57] <pcjc2> he's going to try again
[20:57] <lifeless> does he have (in his active account) his email address hidden?
[20:58] <pcjc2> yes
[20:58] <lifeless> it can be set to show-always, show-loggedin-users, hide-completely
[20:58] <lifeless> what From: and sender: did the one he got, have?
[20:58] <pcjc2> he's now whitelisted the @sf.net email address
[20:58] <pcjc2> Turns out it liked your email, but not his own
[20:58] <lifeless> his spam filter?
[20:59] <lifeless> what From: and sender: did the email from me have?
[20:59] <pcjc2> yes, apparently
[20:59] <lifeless> and what ones did the one from him have, if he's gotten one now
[20:59] <pcjc2> hi gde (@lifeless, gde was the other person who is stuck with the merge)
[21:01] <lifeless> pcjc2: I'm wondering if mail-confidentiality settings are preventing correct sending of the mail
[21:01] <gde> lifeless: pcjc2 Hi there
[21:01] <lifeless> pcjc2: so if you can get those questions answered, that would be great
[21:01] <pcjc2> lifeless: He got it in the end, but I've asked him for the info
[21:01] <lifeless> pcjc2: also say, hi, long time no see ;)
[21:02] <pcjc2> (21:02:03) djgpp: To<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:02] <pcjc2> (21:02:04) djgpp: From: Launchpad Account Merge<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:02] <pcjc2> (21:02:10) djgpp: Sender<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:02] <lifeless> pcjc2: thats after he whitelisted?
[21:02] <lifeless> pcjc2: I'm guessing the one from me had my email address in the from: ?
[21:05] <pcjc2> All emails came from the same From address
[21:05] <lifeless> interesting
[21:05] <pcjc2> and it turns out, were only received after he whitelisted the @sf address
[21:05] <pcjc2> So the thing which was misleading was the address which LP claimed to be sending email to
[21:05] <lifeless> how so?
[21:05] <pcjc2> The lack of merge request was apparently just due to some spam filter / server setting
[21:05] <lifeless> djgpp: hi, thanks for dropping in
[21:06] <djgpp> hi
[21:06] <djgpp> when I tried to recover a lost password on "djdelorie", it said it was sending a confirmation token to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:06] <djgpp> (I still haven't gotten those mails yet though)
[21:06] <lifeless> thats very odd
[21:06] <lifeless> when I tried it it said "An email message was sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Please follow the instructions on that message to complete the merge."
[21:06] <pcjc2> ahh.. I guess that is the leak
[21:07] <djgpp> the two merge requests came through to "To<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:07] <lifeless> we don't have a dba/sysadmin handing around in the weekends, and our staging copy won't have your data in it yet.
[21:07] <lifeless> but I can arrange to look next week and see if there are two emails on the ~djdelorie account
[21:08] <djgpp> and I can get my icon to change...
[21:08] <djgpp> well, there aren't *now*
[21:08] <pcjc2> so DJ - what you did was try to login with the old ~djdelorie account (the SF import one), and it leaked out / gave you the wrong address
[21:08] <lifeless> oh, click - I see
[21:08] <djgpp> I tried to log in to the *new* ~djdelorie (from the sf import), but yes.
[21:08] <pcjc2> and presumably, it is a bug for that to leak _any_ email address
[21:08] <lifeless> so, I think I know where the friction is
[21:08] <djgpp> dj-delorie was my existing LP account (auto-generated from "DJ Delorie" I suppose)
[21:09] <lifeless> password recovery is a separate system, separate db - its the openid database
[21:09] <pcjc2> I'm still curious where it got the incorrect email from
[21:09] <lifeless> account merge is purely launchpad
[21:09] <lifeless> the isd folk may know
[21:09] <pcjc2> should we (or someone) file a bug about the email address being given out for that account?
[21:09] <djgpp> s/can/can't/ get my icon to change
[21:10] <lifeless> (Information Services Development)
[21:10] <lifeless> pcjc2: please file three bugs ...
[21:10] <lifeless> 1) that the email addresses via the two routes were inconsistent
[21:10] <lifeless> 2) that the password recovery handed out the email willy-nilly
[21:10] <lifeless> 3) that the merge form handed out the email
[21:11] <lifeless> there are some tensions between diagnosing faults and preventing disclosure to spammers
[21:11] <lifeless> but we should at least take a look at it
[21:12] <lifeless> gde: you were having trouble too ?
[21:12] <pcjc2> ok. I bet it confuses them because DJ renamed his existing LP account dj-delorie to djdelorie (the merge one) after the merge ;)
[21:12] <djgpp> and deleted the SF email from it, too :-)
[21:13] <lifeless> that will be tricky to diagnose
[21:13] <pcjc2> sounds like something we should recreate on staging
[21:13] <lifeless> possibly
[21:13] <lifeless> possibly not ;)
[21:13] <pcjc2> (but the OpenID bit is production only, right)
[21:13] <lifeless> its complicated ;)
[21:14] <lifeless> I have to finish packing, flying to dallas this afternoon
[21:14] <lifeless> you're all sorted, right ?
[21:14] <djgpp> my account seems OK now, although I should log out and back in again...
[21:15] <pcjc2> gde?
[21:15] <djgpp> yup, I can log out/in
[21:15] <djgpp> still doesn't have my icon...
[21:16] <lifeless> branding?
[21:16] <djgpp> "change details" mugshot
[21:17] <lifeless> it hasn't saved it? or its not showing it on some page you're looking at ?
[21:17] <djgpp> if I go there, it has my photo, but the homepage (/~djdelorie) still has the generic blue-shirt icon.
[21:17] <djgpp> ah!  That's a branding logo.  GRRR!  That was NOT obvious.
[21:17] <pcjc2> gde's import was this account https://launchpad.net/~gareth-uk
[21:17] <pcjc2> I don't know what his actual LP account is
[21:18] <pcjc2> API couldn't find the email address I have for him
[21:18] <lifeless> if its hidden api cannot see it
[21:19] <lifeless> djgpp: yeah, I would like us to auto-resize by default and allow overrides
[21:19] <lifeless> djgpp: but noone has contributed a patch as yet :)
[21:21] <pcjc2> lifeless: gde's issue was that he's forgotten his LP login credentials
[21:22] <pcjc2> but we can't figure out what his proper LP account is called
[21:22] <lifeless> ask a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[21:22] <djgpp> I mean it *says* "that will be displayed on your home page in Launchpad" but it doesn't, and doesn't say that the icon that *is* displayed is set via branding, not details.
[21:22] <lifeless> will need losa assistance
[21:24]  * djgpp must get back to other projects...
[21:26] <pcjc2> I've pointer gde at https://login.launchpad.net/+forgot_password
[21:26] <pcjc2> So apparently the merge process is confusing for non-logged in, non-regular Launchpad users.
[21:29] <pcjc2> If you click the "I am <user>?" link when logged out, you get forwarded to the login page, where the "forgot password" option is pretty tempting
[21:29] <pcjc2> OOPS: (Error ID: 1834carambolalaunchpad18)
[21:30] <pcjc2> That is me playing about, Probably LP shouldn't "Oops!"
[21:31] <gde> lifeless: that link doesn't work for me - no auth email arrives
[21:32] <pcjc2> @gde: Check spam folder / whitelist?
[21:32] <pcjc2> I tried it for my account and the email came from 	Launchpad Login Service<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:33] <pcjc2> But to avoid information leaks, it is possible that LP doesn't tell you if you enter an email address it doesn't know of an account for
[21:33] <pcjc2> it may just silently pretend to have emailed you, and then get on with its business
[21:33] <pcjc2> (to stop people probing for accounts)
[21:33] <pcjc2> (lifeless can probably confirm / deny)
[21:36] <lifeless> pcjc2: thats another bug to file
[21:36] <pcjc2> (which?)
[21:36] <pcjc2> the OOPS?
[21:36] <gde> pcjc2: nothinhg in spam, and it's hosted gmail so there's no explicit whitelisting afaik
[21:36] <lifeless> 10:29 < pcjc2> If you click the "I am <user>?" link when logged out, you get forwarded to the login page, where the "forgot password" option is pretty tempting
[21:36] <lifeless> 10:29 < pcjc2> OOPS: (Error ID: 1834carambolalaunchpad18)
[21:36] <pcjc2> ah..
[21:36] <lifeless> I can't debug now, still packing
[21:37] <pcjc2> I've no idea what the OOPS was caused by, but I can try to reproduce
[21:37] <lifeless> just file the bug
[21:37] <lifeless> we get a backtrace in the oops
[21:37] <pcjc2> Filing
[21:37] <lifeless> and request variables etc; its usually enough to figure out the defect
[21:38] <pcjc2> its not related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/644824 is it?
[21:38] <_mup_> Bug #644824: User created a second Launchpad account; now gets mixed success/denied to various services <canonical-losa-lp> <defect> <lp-foundations> <Canonical SSO provider:Confirmed> <Launchpad itself:Fix Released by stub> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/644824 >
[21:38] <lifeless> related yes, dupe no
[21:38] <pcjc2> Will point you at the bugs I file shortly
[21:39] <lifeless> no need :)
[21:39] <lifeless> I have ~ 0 time today
[21:39] <lifeless> (sorry)
[21:42] <pcjc2> NP, thanks for helping us!
[21:42]  * pcjc2 goes back to bug filing and leaning LP API
[21:43] <gde> lifeless: I think I'm good now- I needed to use an old email address
[21:43] <gde> lifeless: thanks for the help
[22:05] <pcjc2> any way to search for all bugs in a project with a remote bug watch?
[22:06] <pcjc2> (Short of me re-importing our bug data on a local instance and running SQL?)
[22:06] <pcjc2> The old bug watches auto-added based upon comments are no good because the SF trackers are shut down
[22:09] <lifeless> so you want third party bug watches? not sf ?
[22:09] <lifeless> may need a tweak to bugtask.py & the search interface
[22:09] <lifeless> but we do have a field in the backend thats (IIRC) indexed)
[22:12] <pcjc2> I just wanted to seek out bugs which had external watches (incorrectly) added, so I could delete the bugwatches
[22:13] <pcjc2> I've already removed the couple I spotted by hand
[22:49] <pcjc2> , #70048
[22:49] <_mup_> Bug #70048: Python-crash while using Deluge-Torrent-Client <deluge-torrent (Ubuntu):Invalid> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/70048 >
[22:50] <pcjc2> Lifeless, 5x Bugs filed against LP, Bug#700483, Bug#700490, Bug#700491, Bug#700493, Bug#700496
[22:50] <_mup_> Bug #700483: Email address leaked by account merge request <Launchpad itself:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/700483 >
[22:50] <_mup_> Bug #700490: Incorrect email address presented when merging accounts <Launchpad itself:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/700490 >
[22:50] <pcjc2> comeon mup, and the rest?
[22:50] <pcjc2> Bug#700491, Bug#700493
[22:50] <pcjc2> Bug#700496
[23:09] <lifeless> pcjc2: you may wish to file a request for the search you couldn't do
[23:18] <pcjc2> gah... don't want to make work for you guys
[23:18] <pcjc2> more appropriate would be a way to disable auto-adding them for imported bugs (no point linking to the tracker you're just about to replace)
[23:19] <pcjc2> but I have run out of energy for tonight
[23:24] <pcjc2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/700507
[23:24] <_mup_> Bug #700507: Feature request: Search for bugs with an external bugwatch <Launchpad itself:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/700507 >
[23:43] <lifeless> pcjc2: polish isn't work ;)
[23:43] <lifeless> pcjc2: its just polish


[02:01] <kidtp> hey. what is the command to open something from a certain folder in the terminal? it is like cd/home/Downloads/
[02:01] <pedro3005> what do you mean "open"?
[02:03] <kidtp> i am trying to use wine and the only i know how is through "wine <insert file name here>" but before that i must put in a command so that the thing before the code says "travis@travis~laptop/cd/home/Downloads/:" or something liek that
[02:05] <pedro3005> the travis part is just the prefix, you don't need to type that
[02:05] <pedro3005> you just need to get into the correct directory with cd first
[02:05] <pedro3005> cd directory
[02:05] <kidtp> yes
[02:06] <pedro3005> if you are in the right directory, just run the wine command
[02:07] <kidtp> im not
[02:07] <kidtp> i dont know what to type to get into the right directory
[02:07] <pedro3005> do you know what the right directory is?
[02:07] <kidtp> my Downloads folder?
[02:07] <kidtp> that is what it usually is\
[02:08] <pedro3005> check it by
[02:08] <pedro3005> ls ~/Downloads
[02:08] <pedro3005> see if the file's in there
[02:08] <kidtp> it says it is a directory
[02:09] <pedro3005> heh, just that?
[02:09] <kidtp> i forgot the is part
[02:09] <kidtp> but it says that isnt a command
[02:09] <pedro3005> not is
[02:09] <pedro3005> ls
[02:09] <kidtp> ok ya the file is in there
[02:10] <pedro3005> so:
[02:10] <pedro3005> cd ~/Downloads
[02:10] <pedro3005> wine <file>
[02:12] <kidtp> i am "trying" to get itunes to work on here with wine. i know it is a little sloppy on wine but it is better than nothing, but when i tried wine iTunes64Setup.exe    it didnt work. does it have to be a 32 bit program? i have 64 ubuntu so i wasnt sure but maybe wine is different?
[02:14] <pedro3005> kidtp, you're better off asking in #winehq
[02:14] <kidtp> pedro3005: ok thanks
[02:29] <kidtp> how do i uninstall a program?
[02:30] <pedro3005> how did you install it?
[02:31] <kidtp>  pedro3005: through wine...its itunes. i installed it the wrong way so now it wont open and i have to uninstall it to retry
[02:32] <pedro3005> I think Wine has an Add/Remove programs facility similar to windows
[02:33] <kidtp> pedro3005: yes i tried that but when i do that it doesnt uninstall it. i've tried that 4 times now
[02:33] <pedro3005> you can just go to the wine directory and delete it
[02:34] <pedro3005> go to ~/.wine and dig around, you'll find it
[02:40] <Vantrax> anyone know if there is a command line way to detect if your monitor is 3x4 or 10x16
[03:41] <danLe> i need help installing ubuntu
[03:43] <danLe> i need help installing ubuntu!
[03:43] <holstein> hey danLe
[03:43] <holstein> how far along are you?
[03:43] <danLe> hi
[03:43] <danLe> i made a usb setup
[03:44] <danLe> im coming from windows 7
[03:44] <holstein> will it boot?
[03:44] <danLe> it will boot to main menu
[03:44] <danLe> then freezes on ubuntu load screen
[03:44] <danLe> i pressed esc to see the progress
[03:44] <danLe> it says
[03:44] <danLe> kernil panic
[03:44] <holstein> before i would give up
[03:44] <holstein> i would burn a CD
[03:44] <holstein> and try that
[03:44] <holstein> OR
[03:44] <danLe> im using a netbook
[03:45] <holstein> at least make the USB stick over
[03:45] <holstein> and make sure its not an error there
[03:45] <holstein> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ works great from windows
[03:45] <holstein> OR it did back when i used it under windows
[03:46] <holstein> danLe: if that is not the problem
[03:46] <danLe> yea i tried that
[03:46] <holstein> then i would start doing some google searches with your hardware and ubuntu in the name
[03:46] <holstein> and see what other people have run inot
[03:46] <holstein> into*
[03:46] <holstein> as far as issue
[03:46] <holstein> s
[03:47] <danLe> hardware as in
[03:47] <danLe> model make of computer
[03:47] <danLe> ?
[03:47] <holstein> danLe: what netbook?
[03:47] <holstein> yup
[03:47] <holstein> LIKE asus eeepc900 ubuntu lucid
[03:47] <danLe> im using satellite t115-s1100
[03:47] <danLe> toshiba
[03:48] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316079
[03:49] <holstein> is that your issue you thingk danLe ?
[03:49] <danLe> haha i was jus looking at that
[03:50] <holstein> you could...
[03:50] <holstein> go into the bios
[03:50] <holstein> disable the wifi
[03:50] <holstein> and try to boot
[03:50] <danLe> could you teach me how to do that?
[03:50] <danLe> is that when booting the computer
[03:50] <holstein> that would tell you something
[03:50] <danLe> pressing f2
[03:50] <holstein> yup
[03:50] <danLe> to menu?
[03:50] <holstein> F2 or something
[03:50] <holstein> its different from computer to computer
[03:51] <danLe> yea i think that might be the problem
[03:51] <holstein> its easy enough to turn it off and back on
[03:51] <holstein> just remember how you got there
[03:51] <holstein> int he bios
[03:51] <holstein> not a big deal
[03:52] <danLe> kay
[03:52] <danLe> thanks so much
[03:52] <danLe> ill try that
[03:52] <holstein> let me konw
[03:52] <danLe> you were very kind and helpful
[03:52] <danLe> yup
[03:52] <holstein> know*
[03:53] <holstein> your bios doesnt have to let you disable it
[03:53] <holstein> AND it may not work
[03:53] <holstein> just an easy way to troubleshoot
[03:53] <holstein> good luck :)
[03:54] <danLe> kay
[03:54] <danLe> brb
[03:54] <danLe> :)
[03:54] <danLe> thanks!
[04:03] <danLe> it worked!
[04:03] <danLe> yureka!
[04:03] <holstein> danLe: sweet
[04:03] <danLe> but
[04:03] <holstein> so now you know what the problem is
[04:03] <danLe> yup haha
[04:03] <danLe> but
[04:04] <danLe> i dont know how to activate
[04:04] <danLe> wireless on ubuntu
[04:05] <danLe> it expains on the same page
[04:05] <danLe> but im a beginner
[04:05] <danLe> and i'm struggling to picture how to begin the process
[04:05] <holstein> no worries
[04:05] <holstein> im not a beginner
[04:05] <holstein> and this stuff is challenging
[04:05] <holstein> can be
[04:06] <holstein> im google-ing uubntu RTL8187SE
[04:06] <holstein> and just looking around
[04:06] <holstein> i mean
[04:06] <holstein> in theory
[04:06] <holstein> you can just compile your own kernel
[04:06] <holstein> that would have support for all your devices
[04:06] <holstein> BUT i still havent done that yet ;)
[04:06] <holstein> maybe next year
[04:07] <collinp> I have. Unless you have a specific reason to have to compile your own kernel, there's no point to doing it on Ubuntu.
[04:07] <danLe> hey collinp
[04:07] <danLe> good to see you again
[04:07] <paultag> howdy collinp
[04:07] <collinp> Heya danLe, paultag.
[04:07] <danLe> im still working on the same problem from yesterday
[04:07] <paultag> brbz'
[04:08] <danLe> disabling wireless allowed ubuntu to successfully load
[04:08] <danLe> but i can't get on wireless on ubuntu
[04:08] <danLe> and i'm reading through a forum
[04:08] <collinp> So I was right in that the kernel was puking due to your wireless adapter.
[04:08] <danLe> that explain
[04:08] <danLe> yea
[04:08] <danLe> haha
[04:08] <danLe> you were
[04:08] <danLe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316079&page=2
[04:08] <danLe> i think people found a solution
[04:08] <danLe> im reading through the pages
[04:09] <danLe> but i don't know where to start
[04:09] <holstein> i'll leave you back in more capable hands danLe :)
[04:09] <holstein> good luck
[04:10] <danLe> thanks so much holstein
[04:10] <danLe> you were great!
[04:10] <danLe> is it okay to install desktop version on netbook?
[04:11] <collinp> Ubuntu Netbook is optimized for netbooks, but, if yours can handle it, then Desktop shouldn't harm it.
[04:11] <danLe> is there a big difference?
[04:11] <collinp> There's a pretty big difference between the two.
[04:11] <holstein> you can also switch to the dekstop version from with in the netbook version
[04:12] <collinp> Also, try this command to get your wireless card running: "sudo modprobe rtl8139"
[04:12] <holstein> and convert an vanilla destop one to the netbook version
[04:12] <holstein> collinp: i had him disable the thing in the bios
[04:12] <holstein> :/
[04:12] <collinp> Oh. Hrm.
[04:12] <holstein> to troubleshoot
[04:12] <holstein> just a heads up
[04:13] <collinp> So, it's disabled at the BIOS level, and attempting to boot Ubuntu with it enabled causes a kernel panic.
[04:13] <danLe> mhm
[04:13] <collinp> This sounds like fun.
[04:13] <holstein> danLe: http://mogorvamormota.hu/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ubuntu-lucid-beta1-desktop.png
[04:14] <holstein> thats what the netbook remix looks like
[04:14] <holstein> collinp: hehe
[04:14] <danLe> i c
[04:14] <danLe> i googled my model
[04:15] <danLe> i think it isn't categorized as a netbook
[04:15] <holstein> its just an interface
[04:15] <danLe> although i thought it might have been
[04:15] <holstein> if i was going to give a computer to my grandmother
[04:15] <holstein> i would want to try that interface
[04:15] <danLe> which one
[04:15] <holstein> good for small screens
[04:15] <danLe> netbook?
[04:16] <danLe> remix?
[04:16] <holstein> yup
[04:16] <holstein> also good for just showing everything
[04:16] <danLe> my screen is 11.6" compared to standard netbook 10"
[04:16] <holstein> laying everything out
[04:16] <holstein> danLe: nice
[04:16] <danLe> haha
[04:16] <danLe> i don't even know
[04:16] <danLe> i'm just a noob rambling
[04:16] <holstein> i got an ole 9-inch
[04:17] <holstein> old*
[04:17] <holstein> came with linux on it though :)
[04:17] <danLe> cool
[04:17] <holstein> xandros or whatever
[04:17] <holstein> you got a head scratcher of an issue danLe
[04:18] <holstein> you can install with the wifi disabled
[04:18] <holstein> BUT
[04:18] <holstein> i would really like to see that worked out before you do that
[04:18] <holstein> i was thinking if you installed, a kernel update might fix it?
[04:18] <danLe> What I've done is tried loading the default rtl8187se kernel module on its own (no ndiswrapper installed). That causes a system freeze.
[04:18] <danLe> Letting Ubuntu load it on its own = Kernel Panic
[04:18] <danLe> The only way I can get the default rtl8187se kernel module to load at all is to first load ndiswrapper (with driver).
[04:18] <danLe> Then, completely disabling all instances of ndiswrapper (that is to say rmmmod it). This of course kills my wireless.
[04:18] <danLe> Then, modprobing the default driver (stock rtl8187se). By doing this, it'll load the module without causing a system panic.
[04:18] <danLe> this is something that i read
[04:19] <danLe> on the same solution article
[04:19] <holstein> what do you think the chances of that are collinp ?
[04:20] <collinp> You can install Ubuntu with the wireless adapter disabled, then modprobe the correct module. Once you reboot and re-enable the adapter, things should run smoothly.
[04:20] <danLe> how do you modprobe?
[04:21] <collinp> "sudo modprobe rtl8139"
[04:22] <collinp> I *think* that's the correct module.
[04:22] <danLe> where do i enter that command?
[04:22] <danLe> sorry i'm sincerely a beginner
[04:22] <collinp> The terminal.
[04:22] <holstein> how about this danLe
[04:22] <collinp> Enter it without quotes.
[04:22] <collinp> After you do the installation.
[04:22] <holstein> virtual box
[04:23] <holstein> nah
[04:23] <holstein> thats got its own issues
[04:23] <holstein> NM
[04:23] <danLe> so install ubuntu?
[04:24] <holstein> if it were me, i would do what collinp says
[04:24] <holstein> just keep in mind, you should back up your data
[04:24] <holstein> because sometimes bad things happen
[04:25] <holstein> thats a good general rule
[04:25] <holstein> reguardless of installing ubuntu
[04:25] <danLe> so i should actually install ubuntu first?
[04:27] <danLe> how do you have ndiswrapper load up the windows driver.
[04:35] <danleee> hm
[04:35] <danleee> i lagged out
[04:35] <ZachK_> hello danleleee
[04:37] <danleee> hi
[04:37] <ZachK_> and how are you
[05:38] <iantlopp> anyone know of a way to get a non-standard HID (whose actions I can see through cat /dev/input/event16) can be used to emulate keystrokes?
[05:47] <danLe> how do i blacklist  RTL8187SE
[05:47] <danLe> ??
[05:50] <SomeDude> hello out there
[05:50] <SomeDude> i have a question
[05:50] <SomeDude> is there a way with ubuntu to check computer stats
[05:51] <SomeDude> like ubuntu version number, RAM, harddisk space all that
[05:51] <SomeDude> kinda like the "About this mac option" on  a mac
[05:53] <holstein> SomeDude: hey
[05:53] <holstein> i would suggest
[05:53] <holstein> at first
[05:53] <holstein> google whatever you want to know
[05:54] <holstein> LIKE ubuntu free ram space
[05:54] <holstein> i still have to google them to remember sometimes;0
[05:54] <iantlopp> System-Administration-System Monitor has some of the info you need.
[05:54] <holstein> ^^ thats a good place
[05:55] <holstein> open up a terminal and type
[05:55] <holstein> free
[05:55] <SomeDude> thanks will do
[05:55] <holstein> that will tell you about your ram
[05:55] <holstein> top is a good one
[05:55] <holstein> uname -a
[05:56] <holstein> for the kernel
[06:19] <SomeDude> thanks again holstein, good advice
[07:36] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anyone up in here
[07:41] <shredder12> hey ZeRoDeAtH50435
[07:42] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> my laptop has a build in ATI graphics card  but nvidia drivers are installed and from time to time all these lines run across the screen
[07:48] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, why did you install nvidia drivers?
[07:48] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I did not install them they did it on its own
[07:49] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> by default  I guess
[07:49] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, oh that sounds weird
[07:50] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, open system->administration->hardware drivers and see what drivers does it show?
[07:50] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> does not show any
[07:51] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, alright, so how do you know nvidia drivers are installed?
[07:52] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I seen it in the repo and had updates for them
[07:55] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, in the system->administration menu, do you see any launcher naming "nvidia X server settings" or anything containing nvidia
[07:55] <shredder12> because that's what it shows in my menu
[07:55] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no I do not have that
[07:57] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, lets make a try to check what all nvidia packages are installed on your system.
[07:57] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, run this command
[07:57] <shredder12> dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[07:58] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, this will list out all the packages containing name nvidia, do you see any?
[07:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> http://pastebin.com/DQfksK2B
[08:00] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, this one is very similar to my list, except for one package "nvidia-settings"
[08:00] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, most prob. then some kind of nvidia drivers are installed. I am not sure though.
[08:01] <shredder12> anyone else who can help?
[08:02] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> will I get more out of my graphics card if I use drivers for my graphics card and stop the lines from showing up
[08:04] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, ofcourse drivers written for your graphic card give the best performance. Although I don't think nvidia drivers are being used in place of ati drivers. This just doesn't sound right.
[08:05] <hobgoblin> what is the issue ZeRoDeAtH50435 ?
[08:06] <shredder12> hobgoblin, <ZeRoDeAtH50435> my laptop has a build in ATI graphics card  but nvidia drivers are installed and from time to time all these lines run across the screen
[08:06] <hobgoblin> or just pastebin the conversation so far
[08:06] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> from time to time or depending on what I am doing these lines run across my screen
[08:07] <shredder12> hobgoblin, http://pastebin.com/ymCN9gjj
[08:07] <hobgoblin> ok  - the modaliases don't mean that nvidia is installed as a driver - what do you have in hardware drives? and what ati card is it?
[08:07] <hobgoblin> ok - that was easy to catch up on - thanks shredder12
[08:08] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> there are nothing in the hardware drivers and I am not know
[08:08] <hobgoblin> ZeRoDeAtH50435: run lspci and tell us the ati card you have - and have you been here before with this?
[08:10] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> http://pastebin.com/itghE3Nb
[08:12] <shredder12> i don't see any mention of ATI card
[08:13] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah but I know I have ATI graphics card from when I was running win7
[08:14] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its part of the motherboard
[08:16] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, yeah i know, but system doesn't seem to recognize it
[08:17] <shredder12> hobgoblin, any suggestions?
[08:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> yeah I do not get that it did in 9.10
[08:19] <shredder12> ZeRoDeAtH50435, so have you been able to run it properly in earlier ubuntu releases?
[08:19] <hobgoblin> it's intel Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:19] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok I did a search and because I am using a laptop it is the  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:21] <hobgoblin> ZeRoDeAtH50435: there's an issue with some intel graphics - the fiox is to use vesa apparently for that - might be worth trying that
[08:22] <hobgoblin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes workround B
[08:22] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok
[08:23] <hobgoblin> you'll need to reboot possibly if a logout and login does not do it
[08:25] <hobgoblin> ZeRoDeAtH50435: can you run this and pastebin it please
[08:25] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ?
[08:25] <hobgoblin> sudo lshw
[08:31] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> http://pastebin.com/4aXDFJX3
[08:36] <hobgoblin> ZeRoDeAtH50435: have you edited the xorg.xonf file yet?
[08:37] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no
[08:38] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I just checked the repo and there are some ATI drivers installed
[08:39] <hobgoblin> ZeRoDeAtH50435: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:40] <hobgoblin> pastebin that please
[08:40] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no such file or directiry
[08:41] <hobgoblin> ok - go ahead with the edit then from the workround
[08:47] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok I think I got it
[08:48] <hobgoblin> ZeRoDeAtH50435: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:49] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> have to restart
[10:35] <mcsenna> People talk about right clicking on menus, when I do that I get nothing, is that a bit odd? Ubuntu laptop.
[10:37] <hobgoblin> yes
[10:37] <hobgoblin> are you the same mcsenna on the forum?
[10:38] <mcsenna> Yes
[10:38] <hobgoblin> I know the thread then - I'm forestpiskie on there
[10:38] <mcsenna> Ok, can u help?
[10:39] <hobgoblin> do you not get anything if you roght clikc on the panel ? or if you right click the menu?
[10:40] <mcsenna> if i right click on the desktop i get the change backgroundquestion, if I right click on the left hand side (menus) i get nothing
[10:40] <hobgoblin> left hand side? are you using the netbook version?
[10:40] <mcsenna> yes
[10:41] <hobgoblin> never used it so not sure what is normal behaviour there ... hang on a sec
[10:42] <mcsenna> at least i think i amwhere do i check the version, i think i downloaded both.
[10:43] <hobgoblin> mcsenna: apparently that is default behaviour for the netbook version
[10:45] <mcsenna> I see, so back to the original question, how to get anicon for aprogram that hasnt automatucally put one in the menu for me? any ideas?
[10:48] <hobgoblin> mcsenna: apparently you need to edit a file to get things in the menu - unfortunately I would not have a clue how to do so
[10:49] <mcsenna> Thanks hobgoblin,I will go play some more or just runit from the comand line I guess.
[10:49] <hobgoblin> mcsenna: I would add the information to your forum thread
[14:40] <dragondon> greetings all.  I'm looking for the right CLI syntax to batch print a bunch of txt files to pdfs.
[14:44] <dragondon> wow, quiet day :)
[14:45] <dragondon> Actually, here's the deal.  I got a bunch of text files that I want to convert to jpgs.   can convert them to pdfs and then convert the pdfs to jpgs.  Kinda looking for quick way to automate this process.
[14:45] <Chesamo> why would you want them as PDFs?
[14:46] <geirha> There's a2ps and text2ps that can generate ps files at least. Don't know of any that generates pdfs
[14:46] <gl0wurm3wE> save as jpg?
[14:47] <Chesamo> dragondon: It would probably be something along the lines of an ls piped into an array, then each file run against whatever commands you may have
[14:48] <geirha> You could possibly set up a pdf-printer in cups and use lp/lpr
[14:48] <dragondon> I understand the lp command but seeing as my original thought was to print to PDF, I got kinda stumped how to call the 'file printer' name.
[14:49] <dragondon> I got this "lp *.pdf -d name_of_your_printer"  problem is I don't know what to call the 'print to file' process/printer name?
[14:49] <dragondon> (the example says PDF but it's really text files I'm working with)
[14:51] <geirha> If you just want to print the textfiles, then  lp -d name_of_printer *.txt
[14:51] <Chesamo> he wants to print to a PDF then convert the PDF to a jpg
[14:51] <Chesamo> or she, Idunnolol
[14:52] <geirha> Ah, missed that part.
[14:52] <Chesamo> dragondon: This may help. http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec7printtofile.html
[14:53] <phillw> dragondon: you may want to try imagemajick - there's not much it will not convert. http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/text/.image I use it all the time
[14:53] <phillw> but not used it for text (it obviously can do it)
[14:53] <dragondon> awesome stuff guys, thanks, I'll check into those.
[14:58] <geirha> a2ps -o- foo.txt  | convert ps:- foo.jpg
[15:01] <geirha> Ah caption:
[15:11] <dragondon> geirha: does it matter if the file extension is .asc?  just ran this command it just kind seemed to hang. a2ps -o borg.asc | convert ps:- borg.jpg
[15:12] <geirha> dragondon: -o-
[15:12] <dragondon> ah, thanks
[15:12] <geirha> You'll probably want to add some more options to get the output the way you want. Have a look at its man-page.
[15:14] <dragondon> thanks, worked.  And yes, some tweaking to get the orientation would be required.
[15:14] <dragondon> Chesamo: he :)
[15:19] <dragondon> seems a2ps will take too much tweaking to get the output right.
[15:24] <geirha> a2ps -B -R -1 -o- foo.txt
[15:24] <geirha> That seems to get close to "usable" output
[15:26] <geirha> Should be a way to remove that border too
[15:27] <ashwani> hi there.. I am facing issues configuring my USB Modem..
[15:27] <ashwani> pls help
[15:27] <ashwani> My Service providers
[15:29] <ashwani> My Service Provider's manual ask me to inistall usb-modeswitch and usb-modeswitch-data. As I dont have net connectivity in my Ubuntu boot. I donwloaded it with my windows boot and copied into an external harddisk and then connected the same in Ubuntu Boot.. I used package installer and installed.. but its not getting installed. how to install packages from external harddrive..?
[15:29] <dragondon> geirha: excellent!  I was also looking into http://techie-buzz.com/linux-tips/nautilus-scripts-batch-image-processing.html but unable to get the script to work at all....
[15:30] <khebs_> help: i wanted to burn my iso image to my toshiba 80GB removable hard-disk.. how to?
[15:32] <geirha> I've looked at the first two scripts. They don't look promising
[15:32] <dragondon> look at the Convert to jpeg: one
[15:33] <ashwani> how to install package from external hard disk (I am very new to Ubuntu and have used Wubi to multiboot.) I only have net connectivity in XP
[15:33] <dragondon> geirha: the commands you gave me worked fine, now I gave to learn how to do it multiple times to a bunch of files.
[15:33] <geirha> Mostly they fail at handling filenames correctly
[15:34] <geirha> dragondon: Ok, that one is fairly decent.
[15:34] <geirha> Though it can be simplified
[15:34] <dragondon> geirha: I put it in the script directory, marked it as executable but when I tried the script on a file nothing happened.
[15:35] <geirha> for image; do [[ $image = *.jpg ]] && continue; convert -quality 75 "$image" "${image%.*}.jpg"; done
[15:36] <geirha> Hm. I don't see any apparent reason for it to fail. It will not remove the source-file though.
[15:36] <geirha> dragondon: And what type of image file did you try to convert?
[15:37] <dragondon> geirha: I have a bunch of old ascii files.  They are actually ascii art from wayyyy back (I'm doing a bit of a nostalgia theme for next month on my blog) wanted to put them up.
[15:38] <geirha> for textfile; do a2ps -B -R -1 -o- "$textfile" | convert ps:- "${textfile%.*}.jpg"; done
[15:39] <geirha> That line, and #!/bin/bash as first line
[15:41] <dragondon> geirha: so that I understand what is happening, what does "$textfile" mean?  That it will grab any textfile in the dir?
[15:41] <dragondon> oh, this is a re-written script :)
[15:41] <geirha> for textfile; do ... will run once for each file given as argument to the script. storing the filename in a var named textfile each iteration.
[15:46] <dragondon> geirha: that worked too! checking to see if a2ps will auto-size in some manner.
[15:46] <geirha> I think that caption: thingy of convert may be better to use
[15:47] <geirha> From the page phillw posted
[15:48] <geirha> Hm, or just label:
[15:48] <geirha> Yep!
[15:48] <geirha> convert<EMAIL_ADDRESS>foo.jpg
[15:49] <geirha> cowsay moo | display label:@-
[15:49] <geirha> Oops, no probably need to specify a fixed width font
[15:50] <dragondon> geirha: saw label earlier, too much messing with.  I think I'll just keep it simple and post the text directly to the blog post.
[15:54] <dragondon> crap, seemed to only paste fine for one of the ASCII files.....ugh....back to converting to images....
[15:54] <geirha> cowsay moo | convert -font /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMono.ttf label:@- foo.jpg
[15:57] <geirha> So for the nautilus script:  for textfile; do convert -font /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMono.ttf "label:@$textfile" "${textfile%.*}.jpg"; done
[16:02] <khebs_> what do i need to install in my ubuntu to remove some artifacts using GMAx4500M
[16:02] <khebs_> ?
[16:11] <geirha> dragondon: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/7Mt6ppgi  will also capture any output, if any, and display it with zenity
[16:11] <geirha> dragondon: Oops, sorry, forgot the -font.
[16:19] <geirha> dragondon: And come to think of it ... why don't you just put them in a html pre element?
[16:31] <dragondon> geirha: yea, pre tag seems to be the best, funny that WordPress is still catching the odd 'smiley' :)
[16:32] <geirha> dragondon: There's probably some element or class you can use to prevent that too :)
[16:32] <dragondon> geirha: or just turn off the 'automatic insert smiley' option :)
[16:33] <geirha> dragondon: Nah, doesn't sound related... ;)
[16:43] <dragondon> geirha: thought of using the 'code
[16:43] <dragondon> ....tag....didn't help...
[17:14] <whyMe> I seem to have lost the right-click functionality in the Gnome menu.. where I used to get a choice to place a launcher on the desktop, now a right-click on an app in the menu starts the app... Did this change from 8.04 to 10.04??
[17:14] <whyMe> just did a clean install of 10.04 on another drive...
[17:18]  * holstein right-clicking on desktop whyMe :)
[17:18] <holstein> hmmm
[17:18] <holstein> i get 'create launcher' as an option
[17:19] <whyMe> holstein: I mean right-clicking on any app in the gnome menu...
[17:19]  * holstein doing that...
[17:19] <holstein> yeah
[17:20] <whyMe> In 8.04, I used that functionality a LOT.. you getting it too?
[17:20] <holstein> 'add this launcher to desktop'
[17:20] <holstein> to the panel is an option too
[17:21] <whyMe> yes.. I just get the app starting... no menu... Am I misconfigured or something?
[17:21] <whyMe> This is a just-installed copy of 10.04.. not an upgrade from 8.04..
[17:22] <holstein> can you right-click otherwise?
[17:22] <whyMe> yes..
[17:22]  * holstein is on a fresh install too
[17:22] <whyMe> right click works ok on the desktop
[17:24] <holstein> hmmm
[17:24] <holstein> thats a good one whyMe
[17:25] <holstein> i suppose you could poke around in gconf-editor
[17:25] <holstein> i have no idea why that would be happening on a fresh install
[17:25] <whyMe> I guess I will... its kind of odd..
[17:25] <holstein> whyMe: did you install a custom theme?
[17:25] <whyMe> no, not yet.. was planning to later on..
[17:26] <holstein> interesting
[17:26] <whyMe> I had so much cruft on my old 8.04 install, I decided to start over with 10.04..
[17:28] <whyMe> thanks holstein..
[17:57] <Chesamo> whyMe: the Gnome menu no longer has that function. Go tp System > Preferences > Main Menu
[17:57] <Chesamo> to*
[18:40] <bobo123> if I want to install a program I found on a webpage (that don't exist in the repository), and click it, firefox asks if I want to open it with "Package installer GDebi (standard)", but if I press OK I gett the error that "/tmp/gnome-paint_0.3-1_i386-2.deb  couldnn't be opened becase the assosiated program doesn't exist, what am I doing wrong here?
[18:41] <bobo123> and yes gdebi *is* installed
[18:41] <Chesamo> bobo123: What happens when you download it instead of opening it through firefox?
[18:43] <bobo123> Chesamo: hmm.. yes when I first download and then open it from the filemanager instead it works and GDebi start. strange.
[18:43] <Chesamo> bobo123: Since I don't use FF, I can't help you much with the filetype association settings, but it seems like FF's associations are off
[18:47] <bobo123> Chesamo: ok I guess so. perhaps it tries to start GDebi instead of gdebi or something.
[18:48] <Chesamo> bobo123: Well the proper capitalization is GDebi, bu the program binary name is gdebi, so....
[18:49] <someone235> someone knows how to add a video to your iPod with floola?
[18:52] <bobo123> somethin that would be fun is a box "hey, it looks like you are trying to start 'GDebi' that doesn't exist, Do you want to start 'gdebi' instead?" (but without an animated paperclip or dog)
[18:52] <bobo123> (hmm perhaps not a good idea afterall)
[18:52] <Chesamo> someone235: http://www.floola.com/home/docs_troubleshooting/
[18:53] <Chesamo> bobo123: There is something like that on the command line... it tries to guess what you're doing and gives some examples (type "lsa" on the command line, for example)
[18:53] <bobo123> aha
[18:53] <Chesamo> bobo123: I don't think that's the problem, though, since almost all (if not all) programs are launched using lowercase invocations.
[18:54] <someone235> Chesamo, I can't find an explanation there
[18:54] <Chesamo> someone235: Look under "Usage FAQs... It's the second item
[18:56] <someone235> Chesamo, it doesn't work
[18:56] <someone235> i drag it and it does nothing
[18:56] <Chesamo> someone235: Then I don't know, perhaps going onto their support forums would yield better results.
[19:22] <Phrea> what does PPA mean? :)
[19:22] <Phrea> just curious
[19:22] <Chesamo> Phrea: Personal Package Archive
[19:23] <Phrea> I don't understand the 'Personal' part of it
[19:24] <Chesamo> Phrea: You can set up a PPA for a Launchpad project... I assume the original intent was for one person to maintain their "personal" archive for the project?
[19:24] <Phrea> don't spend too much time on it, I just asked it here, because it's convenient and nobody is active
[19:24] <Phrea> oh aha
[19:24] <Phrea> makes sense :)
[19:24] <Chesamo> Phrea: Just my best guess. You'd have to ask a LaunchPad dev about it.
[19:24] <Phrea> I thought it was maybe Linux wide used
[19:24] <Phrea> but, apparently, it's not
[19:25] <Chesamo> Phrea: Nope, it's specific to Ubuntu. LaunchPad is funded by/run by Canonical.
[19:26] <Phrea> that I know
[19:26] <Phrea> but didnt know they also invented the ppa thing :)
[19:26] <Phrea> thanks for your answer :)
[19:26] <Chesamo> You're welcome
[19:26] <Phrea> I'm hopeless :D
[19:27] <bobo123> no, hopefull! :-)
[19:27] <Phrea> haha, nah :D
[19:27] <Phrea> I'm the worst kind of linux user
[19:27] <Phrea> which is ok :D
[19:29] <Phrea> I actually don't know what I'm doing, I only use it because it's safe and I was sick of Windows with all it's security problems
[19:29] <Chesamo> Depends on your perspective.
[19:29] <Chesamo> Give an unknown shell script execute permissions and you could totally wreck your system.
[19:30] <Phrea> true, but I only depend on the forums, this chan and trusted sites for scripts and commands
[19:30] <bobo123> I guess it is possible to destroy ubuntu too though? if I download an eeeevil .deb from the web somewhere and let GDebi install that, can i potentially corrupt my ubuntu installation?
[19:30] <Phrea> so I'm fairly safe
[19:30] <Chesamo> well
[19:30] <Chesamo> deb files can't uninstall
[19:30] <Chesamo> They're just install packages
[19:31] <Chesamo> I guess if it contained a malicious program that would do it but uh
[19:31] <Phrea> I ALWAYS try to use Synaptic etc wherever I can
[19:31] <Chesamo> I rarely download debs... 99% of the time I'm going from the repos or a PPA
[19:31] <Chesamo> Meh, Synaptic
[19:31] <Phrea> I will even add repo's of say Opera to my sources.list and THEN install
[19:31] <Chesamo> just a fancy APT frontend
[19:31] <Phrea> true, but it is fairly safe
[19:31] <Chesamo> I'd do that, but Opera 10.60 can't be installed from the repo
[19:31] <Phrea> and it makes upgrading/uninstalling/etc easy
[19:31] <Phrea> that's why I do that
[19:32] <Chesamo> (They're skipping 10.53 for Linux, by the way)
[19:32] <Phrea> I know
[19:32] <Phrea> but you can add Opera to your sources list
[19:32] <Phrea> which I do
[19:32] <Phrea> :)
[19:32] <Chesamo> I'm aware but
[19:32] <Chesamo> I hate the qt interface that 10.10 uses
[19:32] <Phrea> that way, it's a bit more trusted
[19:32] <Chesamo> So I can't get the one I want from the repos
[19:32] <Phrea> ChanServ: see, you are going too far now already :)
[19:32] <Phrea> I don't know what you are talking about with that qt interface stuff
[19:32] <Chesamo> Interesting tabcomplete.
[19:32] <Phrea> oh
[19:33] <Phrea> gheh
[19:33] <Phrea> sorry
[19:33] <Chesamo> 10.10 uses qt. 10.5x+ uses GTK.
[19:33] <mohi2911> lol ChanServ respond to Phrea :D
[19:33] <Phrea> laziness again :D
[19:33] <mohi2911> Raidsong, pingas
[19:33] <Phrea> Chesamo: ah
[19:33] <Phrea> qt is KDE right?
[19:33] <Raidsong> ohai mohi2911
[19:33] <Phrea> ...or something?
[19:33] <Phrea> and GTK is Gnome?
[19:33] <mohi2911> Raidsong, been busy around??
[19:33] <Chesamo> phrea: Basically. qt is to KDE what KTK+ is to GNOME
[19:33]  * Phrea feels silly
[19:33] <bobo123> I wish I could download a program and checkmark somewhere "[x] I don't trust this application a tiny bit, it is probably malware, can I run it now, safe, please?"
[19:33] <Chesamo> GTK+*
[19:34] <Raidsong> mohi2911, not too busy
[19:34] <Phrea> yea, ok :)
[19:34] <Phrea> that I know then :)
[19:34] <mohi2911> Raidsong, sup??? writing articles??
[19:34] <Phrea> articles? for what? [if I may ask]
[19:35] <Chesamo> Phrea: Probably the wiki
[19:35] <Phrea> oh ah :)
[19:35] <Raidsong> mohi2911, no college
[19:35] <bobo123> (with safe meaning that the program can't read/write any files etc without ubuntu ask for confirmation first. that application sort of total firewalled)
[19:35] <Chesamo> bobo123: You mean in sandbox mode.
[19:35] <mohi2911> Raidsong, x_x
[19:35] <Phrea> I've got a special sandbox box for that
[19:36] <mohi2911> awww pedro3005 came
[19:36] <Phrea> haha, because I'm scared that I might break things
[19:36]  * mohi2911 runs
[19:36] <pedro3005> mohi2911, like you don't love me :)
[19:36] <bobo123> Chesamo: yes I guess so
[19:36] <Phrea> gheh
[19:36] <mohi2911> pedro3005, am I???
[19:36] <bobo123> Phrea: sandbox that breaks things? why?
[19:36] <Phrea> 'lo pedro3005 :)
[19:36] <Chesamo> bobo123: Look into VierualBox
[19:36] <pedro3005> hey phillw
[19:37] <pedro3005> Phrea, *
[19:37] <Chesamo> VirtualBox*
[19:37] <mohi2911> pedro3005, FAIL :P
[19:37] <pedro3005> mohi2911, shush
[19:37] <Phrea> bobo123: no, I break things :D
[19:37] <Phrea> on it
[19:37] <Phrea> it's there to do just that one job :D
[19:37] <mohi2911> pedro3005, you pinged starcraftman ??
[19:37] <bobo123> the first spelling was allmost like viralbox :-D
[19:37] <Phrea> I play, I break it, I reinstall, and play more
[19:37] <pedro3005> mohi2911, no?
[19:38] <phillw> hi mohi2911
[19:38] <phillw> hi pedro3005
[19:38] <Phrea> 'lo phillw
[19:38] <mohi2911> heya phillw. how is the day??
[19:38]  * starcraftman smites mohi2911 with the ultimate hammer of +5 absolutely-not-pinged.
[19:38] <Phrea> I think it's a good idea to have a sandbox box
[19:38] <Phrea> well, for me anyways
[19:38] <phillw> hi Phrea,
[19:38] <mohi2911> lol
[19:38] <pedro3005> mohi2911, who the hell is Raj Kumar?
[19:38] <phillw> day is going well :-)
[19:38]  * mohi2911 is not pinging starcraftman
[19:39] <mohi2911> pedro3005, rraj_be
[19:39] <pedro3005> oh
[19:39] <mohi2911> he was here before 3 months
[19:39] <Phrea> he went to White Castle
[19:39] <Phrea> I believe
[19:39] <mohi2911> pedro3005, remember him??
[19:39] <pedro3005> yes
[19:39] <mohi2911> cool B-)
[19:40] <starcraftman> mohi2911: One day, you will have to run out of pings!
[19:40] <starcraftman> also, afternoon everyone not pinging me :)
[19:40] <mohi2911> starcraftman, i think you are getting it daily :P
[19:40] <pedro3005> starcraftman, I'll substitute mohi when that happens
[19:40]  * phillw restrained from pinging
[19:41] <pedro3005> phillw, come, join the club :P
[19:41] <pedro3005> let's all ping starcraftman!
[19:41]  * mohi2911 is not pinging phillw and starcraftman as well :D
[19:41] <mohi2911> pedro3005, -team
[19:41]  * Phrea always feels somewhat violated when somebody pings me
[19:41] <starcraftman> pedro3005: lol, curse you people, though since it doesn't give an audio bell anymore worst ya can do is flash my tray icon.
[19:42] <phillw> i uts get a tab go blues, which can be handy when i have 5 channels open :-)
[19:42] <phillw> uts=just
[19:42] <mohi2911> phillw, dont close the page :P
[19:42] <pedro3005> starcraftman, you should connect a wire to your PC so every time you are pinged you receive a small shock in your nuts
[19:42] <mohi2911> lol
[19:43] <starcraftman> pedro3005: uhmmmmm, no, sounds more like something a person who thought up such an idea would like.
[19:43] <Chesamo> pedro3005: OH SNAP
[19:44] <pedro3005> starcraftman, was that a comeback?
[19:44] <mohi2911> starcraftman, i think you ignored me :D
[19:44] <pedro3005> I can't tell
[19:45] <starcraftman> pedro3005: I'll agree maybe weak, I probably should have added depraved mind thought up. Also, there wasn't really much to "comeback" from, ergo nothing really strong needed.
[20:39] <pls_vic_me> Hello friends!
[20:40] <pls_vic_me> I was wondering where can I ask a question about Ubuntu 10.04 and my laptop: I have intel GM915 and it is painfully slow
[20:40] <pls_vic_me> no accel, 3d nor 2d
[20:40] <pls_vic_me> I had some similar problem with 9.10 before final release, but it got fixed
[20:40] <pls_vic_me> I was hoping the same will happen in 10.04 but it didn't
[20:42] <holstein> pls_vic_me: is this what you have?
[20:42] <holstein> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[20:42] <holstein> when you run lspci?
[20:43] <pls_vic_me> not rev 04
[20:43] <pls_vic_me> one mom pls
[20:43] <pls_vic_me> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller [8086:2592] (rev 03)
[20:43] <pls_vic_me> lspci -vnn
[20:44] <holstein> hmmm
[20:44] <holstein> have you applied updates?
[20:44] <pls_vic_me> yup
[20:45] <pls_vic_me> this happened after alpha 2 (first time I tried installing) and even after update
[20:45] <pls_vic_me> I tried also Linux Mint 9
[20:45] <holstein> i cant imagine that much difference between rev 3 and 4
[20:45] <pls_vic_me> same thing
[20:45] <holstein> assuming you dont have a hardware problem
[20:45] <holstein> thats the difference
[20:45] <pls_vic_me> Maybe because of the changes to the architecture
[20:46] <pls_vic_me> UXA, EXA and everything else
[20:46] <pls_vic_me> I don't understand too much
[20:46] <pls_vic_me> of this, but I like the new ubuntu
[20:46] <holstein> wonder if a firmware update could effect that
[20:46] <pls_vic_me> hm
[20:46] <pls_vic_me> I don't know
[20:46] <pls_vic_me> but I don't want to do it now anyway
[20:46] <holstein> might be worth a try
[20:47] <holstein> id like to say 'it cant hurt'
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> I'm 2000 km away from home with my laptop the only connection with my folks
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> :))
[20:47] <holstein> but we both know it could
[20:47] <holstein> i'd try it though
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> :P
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> yeah
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> I'll just be patient
[20:47] <holstein> just include that REV 3 in your searches
[20:47] <holstein> and queries
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> I was wondering who could know something more about this
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> hey, nobody is complaining
[20:47] <holstein> rev 4 is rocking and rollin for me
[20:47] <pls_vic_me> really?
[20:47] <holstein> yeah
[20:48] <pls_vic_me> what laptop do you have?
[20:48] <holstein> eeepc 900
[20:48] <pls_vic_me> aah
[20:48] <pls_vic_me> I have toshiba
[20:48] <holstein> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[20:48] <holstein> thats the line from lspci
[20:48] <holstein> and compiz is working great
[20:49] <pls_vic_me> okay
[20:49] <pls_vic_me> thanks man
[20:49] <pls_vic_me> :)
[20:49] <pls_vic_me> I will see about firmware upgrade
[20:49] <holstein> good luck
[20:55] <pls_vic_me> 10x
[21:00] <jkpakayag> hello Dennis77515
[21:00] <Dennis77515> hi
[21:01] <Dennis77515> sorry im new to irc and linux
[21:01] <jkpakayag> i see you made it
[21:01] <Dennis77515> ok
[21:01] <Dennis77515> yea
[21:02] <Dennis77515> :-D
[21:08] <knappy> halp
[21:09] <knappy> may I ask a question?
[21:09] <jkpakayag> go ahead
[21:10] <knappy> I just got a LAMP server running on my virtual-machine ubuntu
[21:10] <knappy> so I can make websites in /var/www
[21:11] <knappy> how can I make websites inside a user?
[21:11] <knappy> not in /var/www (root)
[21:13] <knappy> does my question make sense? ... I am new to this so I might not be using precise words
[21:13] <jkpakayag> yes the question makes sense, but i don't know the answer
[21:14] <knappy> are there other ubuntu IRC groups where people might know?
[21:15] <pls_vic_me> yes
[21:15] <pls_vic_me> I know how to do this
[21:15] <knappy> thank you so much!!!
[21:15] <phillw> knappy, are you wanting to have more than one web site on your server?
[21:15] <pls_vic_me> you have virtual machine open?
[21:15] <knappy> yeah
[21:16] <knappy> I want something like
[21:16] <knappy> www.website.com/~nonRootUser/webpage.html
[21:16] <pls_vic_me> i use it like this
[21:16] <pls_vic_me> for example
[21:17] <pls_vic_me> I need to make a website for a company named "mountains"
[21:17] <pls_vic_me> I will access it by typing http://mountains
[21:17] <pls_vic_me> sounds good no?
[21:17] <pls_vic_me> whenever you add a new site
[21:18] <knappy> I want other people to access it too online
[21:18] <pls_vic_me> you add a new name in /etc/hosts
[21:18] <pls_vic_me> okay
[21:18] <pls_vic_me> do you have a domain?
[21:18] <knappy> yes
[21:18] <knappy> lemme get it
[21:19] <pls_vic_me> so you want to make a full apache webserver
[21:19] <pls_vic_me> not just for testing purpose
[21:19] <pls_vic_me> ...
[21:19] <pls_vic_me> and in virtual machine?
[21:19] <knappy> I have LAMP server already set up
[21:19] <pls_vic_me> this is going to be very tricky
[21:19] <knappy> it is here http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[21:19] <pls_vic_me> okay
[21:19] <pls_vic_me> so it's working
[21:20] <pls_vic_me> you want to take it to /home/knappy/www/website.com
[21:20] <pls_vic_me> yes?
[21:20] <pls_vic_me> and also make it accesible from domain?
[21:20] <knappy> hmm may I give an example
[21:20] <pls_vic_me> I can help with you with moving your website to the home folder
[21:20] <knappy> nono
[21:20] <pls_vic_me> for the second I don't know
[21:20] <pls_vic_me> okay
[21:21] <pls_vic_me> please go on
[21:21] <knappy> lemme give the exapmle
[21:21] <knappy> so at school there is www.school.edu
[21:21] <knappy> where I have my own space at
[21:21] <knappy> www.school.edu/~myname
[21:21] <knappy> so I am wondering if I can do the samething here
[21:21] <pls_vic_me> like <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[21:21] <knappy> where I can do myip/~username
[21:22] <pls_vic_me> like <IP_ADDRESS>/~knappy
[21:22] <knappy> yeah!!
[21:22] <knappy> :D
[21:22] <knappy> so <IP_ADDRESS>/~knappy is independent and non-root
[21:22] <knappy> from <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:23] <pls_vic_me> yeah, you need virtual hosts
[21:23] <pls_vic_me> it's not hard to get started
[21:23] <knappy> ok
[21:23] <pls_vic_me> did you change anything in apache configuration?
[21:23] <knappy> I don't think so
[21:23] <pls_vic_me> okay
[21:24] <pls_vic_me> first thing make a folder in your home
[21:24] <pls_vic_me> name it ~knappy
[21:24] <knappy> can we go private?
[21:24] <pls_vic_me> sure
[21:24] <pls_vic_me> I don't know if it's a problem
[21:25] <pls_vic_me> I'm also new on ORC
[21:25] <pls_vic_me> IRC
[21:25] <pls_vic_me> sorry
[21:25] <knappy> oh
[21:25] <knappy> lemme try to figure it out
[21:29] <Francis1> hello guys good afternoon
[21:29] <Francis1> can someone please help me how to download Skype?
[21:30] <Francis1> :c
[21:30] <Akos> hi Francis1
[21:30] <Francis1> hello Akos
[21:30] <Akos> you can go to http://skype.com and download it (:
[21:31] <Francis1> Akos: the problem is, Im not good at downloading in linux
[21:31] <Francis1> i dont know what to do like really
[21:31] <Francis1> lol
[21:31] <Akos> Francis1: skype is special, but one sec, i'll give you a deep link (:
[21:31] <Francis1> ok ty
[21:32] <Francis1> I need a guide tho
[21:32] <Francis1> :c
[21:32] <Francis1> Akos: Im wondering if this skype in pidgin will allow me to talk to my friends?
[21:33] <Francis1> brb 5 mins
[21:33] <Francis1> :)
[21:33] <Akos> sure, tyt
[21:36] <Francis1> Akos: Im vacuuming my room haha
[21:36] <Francis1> Akos: hold on mate ;)
[21:43] <Akos> sure ((:
[21:43] <Chesamo> Francis1: Can you explain to me what your problem is? I've downloaded and installed Skype from the website with no problems before.
[21:44] <Francis1> i dont have problem xd
[21:44] <Francis1> I just need someone to help me to download it
[21:44] <Francis1> becuase i dont know how to
[21:44] <Francis1> :c
[21:44] <Chesamo> Francis1: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/
[21:44] <bobo123> I suppose it is not the _downloading_ of skype that is the problem or?
[21:45] <Francis1> no mate
[21:45] <Francis1> i just need some1 to guide me step by step
[21:45] <Chesamo> Uhm
[21:45]  * bobo123 didn't see the beginning of the conversation though
[21:45] <Francis1> if you guys can do that, i would really appreciate it
[21:45] <Chesamo> Francis1: 32-bit or 64-bit?
[21:45] <Francis1> hold on tho
[21:45] <Francis1> be right back in 10?
[21:45] <Francis1> hold on pls
[21:45]  * Chesamo shrugs
[21:46] <Francis1> in skype?
[21:46] <Francis1> is it possible that a friend can hear me
[21:46] <Francis1> even if he has a microphone
[21:46] <Francis1> as long as i talk
[21:46] <Francis1> ?
[21:46] <Chesamo> Francis1: Can you rephrase the question? I'm not sure I understand
[21:46] <Francis1> ok so
[21:47] <bobo123> is it possible to see what timezoone an irc-user is? here it is 22:46 :-)
[21:47] <Francis1> if I talk in skype, can my friend hear me even if he's not using a microphone
[21:47] <Francis1> brb in 10 pls
[21:47] <Chesamo> Francis1: Yes, that's generally how it works. As long as you have a microphone your friend will be able to hear you.
[21:47] <bobo123> if you have a mic and she have not, then she can hear you anyway yes
[21:48] <Chesamo> bobo123: I suppose you could do a GeoIP lookup and get the general idea if the person's IP is visible through a /whois query
[21:48] <bobo123> ahh... true
[21:49] <Chesamo> bobo123: That's not always possible, though... try /whois'ing starcraftman and see what you get. You won't get his IP address. Also, hi starcraftman <3
[21:49] <Francis1> ill be back.. hold on pls
[21:51] <starcraftman> Chesamo: someone pingeth I, teh mighty starcraft.man! Speak!
[21:52] <pedro3005> boooo
[21:52]  * Chesamo babbles
[21:52] <bobo123> hi starcraftman, when will they release starcraft3? (with LAN this time)
[21:52] <starcraftman> pedro3005: booo? You can't boo me, I have the awesome "teh" in the name, so much better than the.
[21:53] <starcraftman> bobo123: sadly, I'd say never, I'm concerned they can barely get the 2 out without activision mucking it up.
[21:53] <bobo123> mmmm
[21:57] <Chesamo> It's sad because he's totally right
[21:57] <bobo123> anyway, can you recomend what is the 'fastest' video player there is? (as in so my computer will be able to play a mkv with 1920x1080@24Hz avc1 video + a52 sound + ssa subtitle without problems on my computer...)
[21:57] <Chesamo> VLC media player
[21:58] <Chesamo> If nothing else it'll mix and match codecs better than any other player I've seen
[21:58] <bobo123> oh if that is the fastest/bestest I guess my computer is too slow :-(
[21:58] <Francis1> Chesamo: OK IM BACK
[21:58] <Francis1> :d
[21:58] <Chesamo> Than running VLC? Geez
[21:58] <Chesamo> What're your specs, bobo123?
[21:58] <bobo123> how do I check in ubuntu what cpu I have?
[21:59] <bobo123> I actually forgot how fast it is....
[21:59] <Francis1> can someone pls help me :c
[21:59] <Chesamo> Francis1: I can multitask.
[21:59] <Francis1> Chesamo: ok mate
[21:59] <Francis1> so what's the 1st step
[21:59] <Francis1> :p
[21:59] <Chesamo> bobo123: in Terminal, type: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:00] <Chesamo> Francis1: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/
[22:00] <Francis1> ok im here
[22:00] <Francis1> :p
[22:00] <Chesamo> Francis1: Do you know if you have 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[22:00] <Francis1> i do not know
[22:00] <Francis1> :c
[22:00] <Chesamo> Francis1: What's the output of uname -a?
[22:00] <Chesamo> Francis1: "uname -a" in the Terminal, that is
[22:00] <Francis1> what is uname -a?
[22:00] <Francis1> ok hold on
[22:01] <Francis1> want me to copy paste?
[22:01] <Francis1> Linux acerlaptop 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:01] <Chesamo> Francis1: You're running 32-bit Ubuntu, also known as x86. Keep that in mind.
[22:02] <Chesamo> Francis1: Ignore my earlier link and go here: http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32
[22:02] <Francis1> ok ima gonna write it and put it on the monitor lol
[22:02] <Chesamo> Francis1: Good idea ;-)
[22:02] <Francis1> it needs to be saved
[22:02] <Francis1> should i save file?
[22:03] <Chesamo> Francis1: Yes, save it somewhere you can get to it. Like your Home folder.
[22:03] <bobo123> Chesamo: ok, its a 2400MHz AMD64 "3800+" single core (but I'm use 32bit ubuntu since I have only 2GB), (+my graphic card is geforce7600 if is possible to offload some processing on that)
[22:03] <Francis1> Chesamo: ok it's in my desktop
[22:03] <bobo123> perhaps that is too slow for 1080
[22:03] <Chesamo> bobo123: Definitely! The 7600 won't be able to run that. 768p at best.
[22:04] <Chesamo> Francis1: Okay, double-click on the .deb file you just downloaded onto your Desktop.
[22:04] <Francis1> done
[22:05] <Francis1> then install package?
[22:05] <Chesamo> Francis1: Yes.
[22:06] <Francis1> Chesamo: ok it's downloading
[22:06] <Francis1> :D
[22:07] <Francis1> Chesamo: it's installed
[22:07] <Francis1> then
[22:07] <Chesamo> Francis1: It should be located in Applications > Internet > Skype
[22:07] <Francis1> yay! thanks a lot!
[22:07] <Chesamo> Francs1: You're welcome
[22:08] <Francis1> wth i dont get this xd
[22:08] <Francis1> so the 1st two boxes are for e-add right
[22:08] <Francis1> what about the 3?
[22:09] <Francis1> Chesamo: :xc
[22:09] <Chesamo> Francis1: Um, what? I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment so you'll have to explain a little better than that
[22:09] <Francis1> ok
[22:09] <Francis1> so Im trying to sign up right
[22:09] <bobo123> I wonder if it possible to save some computations for the videoplayer if it crops away some of the left and right of the film and don't zoom it to fit on my 1600x1200 screen.  I mean I can live without those  160+160 pixels :-)
[22:10] <Francis1> tehre are 5 boxes here but doesnt say if i should put an e-add or password etc etc
[22:10] <Chesamo> Francis1: What is an e-add?
[22:10] <Francis1> e-mail add
[22:10] <Chesamo> address*
[22:10] <Chesamo> Francis1: What are the three options?
[22:10] <Francis1> no name
[22:10] <Francis1> lol
[22:11] <Francis1> wanna see a screenshot
[22:11] <Francis1> ?
[22:11] <Chesamo> Francis1: Please answer my question. That would work too.
[22:11] <bobo123> if it can save time by now need to decode those parts.. if a block is 16x16 then it could skip 21600 blocks :-) on the other hand it wouldn't help when it is panning...
[22:12] <bobo123> *"not" not "now"
[22:12] <Francis1> Chesamo: [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/2yo4lco.png[/IMG]
[22:12] <Chesamo> Francis1: [img] tags are unnecessary
[22:12] <Francis1> ok my bad
[22:13] <Chesamo> Francis1: oh, my. It looks like your theme is making it impossible to view the text. Change themes and look at it again
[22:13] <Francis1> ok hold on
[22:14] <Francis1> i can read it now
[22:14] <Francis1> thank you so much
[22:14] <Chesamo> Francis1: You're welcome
[22:17] <Francis1> Chesamo: how to make a new skype name
[22:18] <Francis1> it says my password is not allowed
[22:18] <Chesamo> Francis1: Try to recover your password first
[22:18] <Francis1> ok
[22:19] <Francis1> it says that the e-mail address isn't in their record?
[22:19] <Francis1> wow seriously >.<
[22:20] <Francis1> oh nevermind
[22:20] <Francis1> i know how to do it now
[22:20] <Francis1> Chesamo: :D
[22:21] <Francis1> wow invalid password again?
[22:21] <Francis1> >.<
[22:22] <Francis1> Chesamo: it won't let me to sign up lol
[22:22] <Francis1> Chesamo: i can't click the sign up button
[22:22] <Chesamo> Francis1: Did you not try to recover your password?
[22:22] <Francis1> i have? it says that my e-mail address isn't in their records
[22:22] <Chesamo> Francis1: If the button won't click that means the passwords don't match
[22:22] <Francis1> this is pretty disappointing :s
[22:23] <Francis1> that's impossible coz i tried to make new ones
[22:23] <Francis1> like 5 times
[22:23] <Chesamo> Francis1: There's a little tool called copy-paste
[22:24] <Francis1> god damn it i been trying for 7x now
[22:24] <Francis1> always invalid password
[22:24] <Francis1> wth
[22:24] <Chesamo> Francis1: If the password's not working then clearly you're not typing it right or you don't remember it.
[22:24] <Francis1> damn
[22:25] <Francis1> im gonna try to put #'s on it
[22:25] <Francis1> hold on
[22:25] <Francis1> there now it works w/ numbers
[22:26] <Francis1> ok thanks chesamo :D
[22:26] <Francis1> cya :D
[22:26] <Chesamo> Francis1: You're welcome. Good luck
[22:26] <Francis1> ty, u2
[22:27] <bobo123> perhaps I should try skype... no not tonight
[22:27] <bobo123> Chesamo: so you say that it is my graphic cards fault I can't view 1080 h264 without problems?
[22:27] <Chesamo> bobo123: I'd blame h264
[22:28] <bobo123> bad videoformat! bad videoformat! :-)
[22:31] <bobo123> on the other hand, VP8 is probably just as cpu hungry too....
[22:31] <Chesamo> bobo123: XviD :3
[22:34] <bobo123> mmm... I wonder how long time it would take to recode the whole thing to xvid before playing it..... I can see before me VLC popping up a dialogbox saying "your cpu/gpu is too slow, do you want me to preprocess the movie before playing? please come back in 7 hours" :-/
[22:35] <Chesamo> bobo123: Depends on the video, I guess. And what you're converting to/from. You've got a rather weak CPU, though, and any conversion would be strictly on the CPU
[22:36] <bobo123> oh my poor amd64 3800+ is weak.... :'-(
[22:37]  * bobo123 running away buying a server farm.  not.
[22:37] <Chesamo> Hah
[22:39] <bobo123> perhaps some program (avidemux?) can relatively fast pre-cut off the left and right of the movie to make it fit in 1600, without it takes ages.....
[22:40] <bobo123> without having to recode just everything I mean (only the blocks at the new border)
[23:54] <Phrea> what's the code again to know what you currently got installed, and when you do a fresh install, one can run that code to reinstall everyting in one go again?
[23:55] <Phrea> [to the latest versions and all]
[23:57] <Phrea> I want to save my currently installed packages via the terminal, and I should some how execute a command via the terminal to get everyting installed all at once again
[23:57] <Phrea> [not the settings, just the programs/packages]


[10:23] <innocuous> will the nvidia 530.41.03 driver be part of ubuntu 23.04?
[10:27] <oerheks> innocuous,  i see no lunar packages yet https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-driver
[10:27] <oerheks> but 530 is available for 22.10, so i guess it will
[10:28] <innocuous> ah ok
[10:28] <innocuous> just upgraded to the beta... hmmm
[10:30] <innocuous> I'll just wait. I was just hoping it would fix some wayland issues...
[15:04] <dust> iso is 4,9gb and dvd rw is 4,7gb
[15:07] <genii> Yes, some images are oversized and can only be run from dual-layer DVD ( 8.5G capacity ), BluRay disc, or USB stick
[15:13] <JoeBk> has anyone been able to install ubuntu-23.04.   the install hangs for me.   I installed the beta without problem.
[15:14] <oerheks> did you check the md5sum?
[15:15] <ravage> JoeBk: installing it right now. so far no problems
[15:16] <ravage> the installation should also work without any internet connection
[15:16] <JoeBk> oerheks, I checked the checksum on the flash drive.
[15:17] <JoeBk> I'll try without internet connection.
[15:18] <JoeBk> oerheks, it's an sha256 checksum.
[15:18] <oerheks> also good
[20:25] <JoeBk> has anyone been able to install 23.04?
[20:27] <krytarik> JoeBk: This would be on topic in #ubuntu now btw.
[20:29] <JoeBk> I asked there and the moderator bitched at me because they don't support interim releases.
[20:32] <JoeBk> all I did was ask if anyone has installed it.
[20:32] <krytarik> Well, leftyfb said unreleased versions though, which at the time it was still.
[20:33] <leftyfb> I'm also not a moderator
[20:38] <JoeBk> krytarik, I think it was released.
[20:38] <JoeBk> forget about it


[12:52] <mitya57> (s/Trusty/Utopic/)
[15:34] <MosesEX> rww, nooo waaa
[15:34] <MosesEX> !ops | nooo waaa
[15:35] <MosesEX> !ops | noooo waaaaa
[15:36] <dholbach> MosesEX, ...
[15:36] <MosesEX> yay
[15:36] <rww> dholbach: hfsplus, has too much time on his hands
[15:37] <MosesEX> rww, actually i mutitask =D
[15:37] <rww> MosesEX: what do you do when you're not wasting time on IRC?
[15:37] <MosesEX> rww, bible
[15:37] <MosesEX> contend for the faith
[15:37] <MosesEX> against heretics
[15:37] <MosesEX> cults
[15:37] <MosesEX> jude 3
[15:37] <MosesEX> try to get people out of hell
[15:39] <MosesEX> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17%3A23-34
[15:39] <dholbach> MosesEX, that's off-topic here, please stop it
[15:39] <MosesEX> dholbach, i dont care?
[15:39] <dholbach> thanks