[10:01] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:01] <TheRedWave> it was a netsplit
[10:02] <safwan> I am telling every body there are lots of issue in a 64bit system. for example there is no flash player available yet for 64bit
[10:02] <Gorbachev> I dunno meta...it took me three REinstalls just to get beryl to work right
[10:02] <hexstar> astro76: ah haha cool
[10:02] <ShaRose> so i figured what the heck, i can't do anything here, finish
[10:02] <ticnailer> does anyone know how to install a program from the file manager....I only can install from the command line....:(
[10:02] <ShaRose> so now i get stuck at
[10:02] <Gorbachev> what type of prgram is it?
[10:02] <meta4ical> Gorbachev: I run counterstrike through wine, and get a 100fps, the drivers HAVE to be working, but if i try and open the ubuntu screensavers, they all go like 10fps
[10:02] <safwan> ticnailer use add and remove
[10:02] <ameyer> I don't know if there's even java for 64 bit...
[10:02] <Gorbachev> tar...deb?
[10:02] <Gorbachev> bin?
[10:02] <ameyer> well, sun java
[10:02] <ticnailer> its a wireless driver...
[10:02] <hexstar> ShaRose: but what error do you get?
[10:03] <scorp123> ticnailer: be more specific ... you're not giving enough useful info
[10:03] <ShaRose> Verifying DMI pool data
[10:03] <Gorbachev> Sorry...I have no clue there meta
[10:04] <Gorbachev> a driver isn't a program
[10:04] <ShaRose> it couldn't install into /target/
[10:04] <hexstar> sharose: and that's the last output you get? what happens after that?
[10:04] <ShaRose> after what?
[10:04] <hexstar> after it says "verifying dmi pool data"?
[10:04] <ShaRose> nothing
[10:04] <ticnailer> its a realtek driver for the wireless on my laptop and I installed it to xarchiver(a zip program), and I extracted the files to my desktop and now I must install it.
[10:04] <ShaRose> it sits there
[10:05] <hexstar> ShaRose, DMI is a bios function tht allows apps to parse the system info. It sounds like your bios may be outdated
[10:05] <safwan> ticnailer if you are talking about installing and removing programs , you can either use programs software, or use the add and remove manager
[10:05] <Gorbachev> ask someone how to use ndiswrapper
[10:05] <hexstar> !ndiswrapper
[10:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <ticnailer> ok
[10:05] <ShaRose> well, the bios worked earier
[10:05] <hexstar> ticnailer: apt-get install pkgname or apt-get remove pkgname
[10:05] <Gorbachev> unless your wireless card works out-of-the-box
[10:05] <ticnailer> thanks
[10:05] <Gorbachev> some of them do
[10:05] <ticnailer> I'll try it
[10:06] <hexstar> ShaRose: what do you mean, you were able to install the bootloader earlier?
[10:06] <scorp123> Gorbachev: yes, Intel ones for example :)
[10:06] <ShaRose> unable
[10:06] <Gorbachev> mine did...prolly intel
[10:06] <ShaRose> it failed
[10:06] <ShaRose> grub and lilo
[10:06] <Gorbachev> internal
[10:06] <ShaRose> and i tryed several times
[10:06] <meta4ical> Anyone know of a resource with cards that are known to play well with Ubuntu?
[10:06] <meta4ical> video cards*
[10:06] <safwan> I have been using ubuntu for about two months now. I found it much better than windows.
[10:06] <hexstar> ShaRose: right, since it fails at that point it sounds like your bios may be old such that it's giving the sys info in a format that's no longer supported. I'd recommend going to your pc manufacturers website and in their support section looking for a new bios to flash for your pc
[10:07] <scorp123> meta4ical: Nvidia ... avoid ATI
[10:07] <ubuntu_noob> Can I ask, what's the proper procedure for reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:07] <meta4ical> safwan: me too, i've had it 3 days and already solved the problem of gaming ... i've already got starcraft /cs 1.6 and source going at almost full speed
[10:07] <Gorbachev> uh
[10:07] <hexstar> ubuntu_noob: with keeping info or without?
[10:07] <ubuntu_noob> Without
[10:07] <safwan> dubuntu_noob cool question , I would like to know the answer
[10:07] <meta4ical> scorp123: So generally any newer nvidia card?  ATI doesn't. Not all ATI cards can be made to play nice with Linux.
[10:08] <ticnailer> to go through
[10:08] <ubuntu_noob> hexstar: I don't have to delete old partition?
[10:08] <ShaRose> the computer i am using is almost 10 years old. :S
[10:08] <safwan> I have been using ubuntu and I love it and I really want to know more about it
[10:08] <hexstar> ubuntu_noob: no, it'll edit the partitions as necessary
[10:08] <hexstar> and in doing so will most likely loose all existing data
[10:08] <dem0nseed> who is haveing trouble with nvidia
[10:08] <dem0nseed> ?
[10:09] <safwan> what is nvidia
[10:09] <Gorbachev> graphics
[10:09] <dem0nseed> a grapic card
[10:09] <Gorbachev> card brand and driver
[10:09] <hexstar> so I am 99% sure that reruning the installer over your existing install will wipe everything out ubuntu_noob
[10:09] <hexstar> !nvidia
[10:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:09] <ShaRose> the last os this thing had was windows 98
[10:09] <ubuntu_noob> Can I keep my XP partition though?
[10:09] <Gorbachev> it will
[10:09] <Gorbachev> I am living testament to that
[10:09] <Gorbachev> yeah
[10:09] <hexstar> ShaRose: yes well that is pretty old, the bios is most likely due for a flashing
[10:09] <ShaRose> mind you, it did run xp once, albeit slowly
[10:09] <Gorbachev> you might want to do the manual partition option
[10:10] <ShaRose> :S
[10:10] <hexstar> ubuntu_noob: you'll have to do manual partition config for that and make sure it uses the existing linux partittions for that to work
[10:10] <clouder> XiXaQ: $ rm -rf ~/.gnome2 and restart X to restore defaults, or you can run gnome-panel
[10:10] <ubuntu_noob> OK, thanks
[10:10] <hexstar> ubuyntu_noob: np :)
[10:10] <pawan> hi
[10:10] <ubuntu_noob> I'll be back.
[10:10] <hexstar> pawan: hi
[10:10] <hexstar> ubuntu_noob: ok
[10:10] <hexstar> :)
[10:10] <meta4ical> I don't know why I'm blind, but could someone direct me to a resource featuring progress on the next release of ubuntu?
[10:11] <pawan> yes
[10:11] <meta4ical> I swear I do not see anything on ubuntus website, which is sad :(
[10:11] <pawan> u admin
[10:11] <pawan> or mod
[10:11] <hexstar> pawan: no I'm not an admin
[10:11] <TheRedWave> can some one help me switch over from amiga os?
[10:11] <hexstar> pawan: to get a admin do !ops
[10:11] <pawan> op
[10:11] <Gorbachev> speaking of which....what exactly is AmigaOS?
[10:11] <pawan> or a noob
[10:11] <hexstar> type exactly what I said, !ops and press enter
[10:11] <TheRedWave> lol
[10:11] <pawan> !ops
[10:11] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:11] <elkbuntu> hexstar, no, that is for troll emergencies only
[10:12] <craf> TheRedWave, what sort of amigaos ?
[10:12] <hexstar> he wanted a admin...
[10:12] <pawan> !admin
[10:12] <Amaranth> pawan: yes?
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <ShaRose> seems i lagged out agin
[10:12] <ShaRose> *again
[10:12] <pawan> who are the admin of this channel
[10:12] <TheRedWave> craf: it was a joke
[10:12] <hexstar> I was just trying to help...sheesh
[10:13] <Amaranth> pawan: There are several of us, what do you need?
[10:13] <elkbuntu> pawan, please ignore what hexstar said, the ops call is for when there is trolling and spamming only
[10:13] <Hobbsee> hexstar:
[10:13] <scorp123> Gorbachev: obviously AmigaOS is the OS of old AMIGA's ....
[10:13] <craf> TheRedWave, lol ok
[10:13] <Hobbsee> hexstar: we may be ops, but that doesnt mean we have to answer every question.  it's for trolling or spamming only.
[10:13] <pawan> want to know the names of admins
[10:13] <craf> scorp123, its the os of news amigas too
[10:13] <Amaranth> pawan: Why?
[10:13] <pawan> just for information
[10:13] <scorp123> craf: "new" Amigas? :-/
[10:13] <Hobbsee> pawan: they were all written above.
[10:14] <elkbuntu> pawan, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list would do the same
[10:14] <TheRedWave> i am on a 386 is compiz-fusion supported?
[10:14] <hexstar> scorp123: can I buy an Amiga in walmart? that'd be the day :D
[10:14] <craf> yes with amigaone and pegasos computer
[10:14] <kameron> pawan, /m ubotu ops
[10:14] <scorp123> hexstar: well, Amigas were cool back in the 80's .... waaaay ahead of their time.
[10:14] <Amaranth> TheRedWave: compiz + compiz-fusion addons is only supported on gutsy
[10:14] <hexstar> scorp123: and they still are to me :D
[10:14] <hexstar> but that's OT..
[10:14] <hexstar> so..
[10:14] <dade> it is not a problem with beryl or compiz or nothing, it is the theme manager, the regular one that comes with ubuntu, I tried to change the theme after I started using desktop effects and it broke
[10:15] <TheRedWave> i have 16 mb of ram is that enough for gutsy?
[10:15] <hexstar> TheRedWave: not for a gui
[10:15] <scorp123> TheRedWave: nope
[10:15] <hexstar> are you sure it's 16mb of ram?
[10:15] <TheRedWave> ok i am running a ps3 is THAT supported?
[10:15] <craf> scorp123, the amiga is not like it was in the 80'S
[10:15] <scorp123> TheRedWave: unless that was a typo and you wanted to write "16 GB of RAM ..."
[10:15] <hexstar> theRedWave: it doesn't make sense that a p3 computer would have 16mb ram
[10:16] <hexstar> where did you get that info from?
[10:16] <TheRedWave> i was a joke along with amiga os and running a 386 and running on a ps3
[10:16] <hexstar> ah lol
[10:16] <TheRedWave> i said a PS3
[10:16] <ameyer> i'd guess a p3 might have 160?
[10:16] <ameyer> 196 maybe?
[10:16] <pawan> go the names
[10:16] <scorp123> aaaaah, PS3 :-)
[10:16] <TheRedWave> 1mb of ram should be good enough for anybody
[10:16] <Amaranth> !offtopic
[10:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:17] <hexstar> The PS3 has 256 MiB of main memory and 256 MiB of video memory for the RSX.
[10:17] <ShaRose> ...
[10:17] <ShaRose> sigh
[10:17] <pawan> what is yellow dog linux
[10:17] <hexstar> pawan: ydl is for ppc amcs
[10:17] <hexstar> *macs
[10:17] <craf> there is amiga like os in development named aros go to : www.aros.org
[10:17] <hexstar> ppc is powerpc, it is another processor type macs used to use and it is not compatible with intel processors
[10:17] <TheRedWave> amiga os sux
[10:18] <ShaRose> ot's 5:49 am
[10:18] <hexstar> what??
[10:18] <pawan> cant we use it on pc
[10:18] <ShaRose> still no working os on my old comp
[10:18] <hexstar> pawan: no you can't, powerpc is a different processor that is not compatible with intel
[10:18] <scorp123> hexstar: continued off-topic discussions ....
[10:18] <Amaranth> hexstar: You guys continue to discuss offtopic things
[10:18] <Hobbsee> hexstar: you appaer not to have recognised the meaning of offtopic
[10:18] <Amaranth> I just kicked 3 of you
[10:18] <hexstar> I'm sorry! I will not participate in any OT at all
[10:19] <hexstar> I'll ignore ot comments
[10:19] <hexstar> !ppc
[10:19] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[10:19] <ShaRose> wait
[10:20] <hexstar> shack: ?
[10:20] <hexstar> oops ShaRose: ?
[10:20] <ShaRose> when i finished, it said to boot it i would need to run it in a certain way, but i forgot it :P
[10:20] <Hobbsee> hexstar: great, because this is a support channel, and if you dont follow the rules, you'll get the boot.
[10:20] <ShaRose> probably a command
[10:20] <hexstar> what are you referring to?
[10:20] <hexstar> ShaRose
[10:20] <ShaRose> my install woes
[10:20] <ShaRose> :P
[10:20] <hexstar> :P
[10:21] <hexstar> Well have you gotten the bootloader to get past that message?
[10:21] <khelll> is there any visual tool like tortosie svn for linux
[10:21] <ShaRose> no
[10:21] <ShaRose> :S
[10:21] <craf> re all
[10:21] <hexstar> ShaRose: Like I said, I recommend flashing the bios. If windows 98 was the last os on the pc then the bios is probably very outdated
[10:21] <ShaRose> the bootloader never MANAGED to install
[10:21] <craf> why i was kicked ?
[10:21] <ShaRose> also, xp can run on it
[10:22] <m0zone> quick question is there like a control panel in gnome like kde has with every option grouped toghter so its not multi click in menu?
[10:22] <hexstar> ShaRose: the bios is different then the bootloader
[10:22] <Hobbsee> craf: offtopic
[10:22] <ShaRose> it's been done before
[10:22] <hexstar> !bios
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <craf> t
[10:22] <scorp123> craf: continued off-topic discussions despite admin's warning not to do that
[10:22] <craf> ... Hobbsee
[10:22] <craf> ok
[10:22] <TheRedWave> !grub
[10:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:22] <hexstar> ShaRose: for info on the bios go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS
[10:22] <Hobbsee> craf: as in, you were offtopic.  not that your question is offtopic
[10:22] <TheRedWave> !lilo
[10:22] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[10:22] <Amaranth> m0zone: there is gnome-control-center but it just opens the apps from the menu
[10:23] <ShaRose> i know what a bios is
[10:23] <ShaRose> but lilo and grub said they failed because of the [grub/lilo]  package failed to install into /target/.
[10:23] <craf> i'm new user of ubuntu i'm french
[10:24] <dcordes> !keyboard
[10:24] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[10:24] <hexstar> ShaRose: ok, so what I'm thinking is that you said that the last OS on the pc was windows 98. In addition when you try to install the linux bootloader it stops at the dmi message. DMI is a function of the bios that provides system info to applications that run on the pc. My gues is that the bios is so old that the DMI is providing the system info in a format that the bootloader installer can't understand and thus you should try flas
[10:24] <ShaRose> and no
[10:24] <m0zone> tnxs  alot araranth   been drivein me crazy goin thu menu over and over lookin  nice to have one window with icons for stuff
[10:24] <hexstar> ShaRose: no what?
[10:25] <ShaRose> i could not install the bootloaders, so i tryed to continue without them. then on startup i get stuck at dmi.
[10:25] <kevor_> good morning!
[10:25] <hexstar> ShaRose: right, see my above explanation. I think that your bios needs updating
[10:25] <khelll> is there any visual tool like tortosie svn for linux
[10:25] <kevor_> i've 2 nics in my computer, one comes up, normally. the other one does not come up, but does come up if i do "ifup eth1"
[10:25] <Xados> can anyone suggest a good irc client for ubuntu.. hopefully that makes using lots of channels on lots of servers easy? =]
[10:26] <Hobbsee> Xados: xchat
[10:26] <hexstar> Xados: xchat
[10:26] <hexstar> lol
[10:26] <kevor_> where can i make this interface to come up at boot?
[10:26] <hexstar> kevor_: you could edit /etc/rc.local and add ifup eth1 into it
[10:26] <m4n> kevor_: onboot = yes or some option is there
[10:26] <kevor_> m4n: where?
[10:26] <m4n> kevor_: am checking that now
[10:26] <kevor_> hexstar: that seems like a strange way to do it
[10:27] <hexstar> kevor_: well, rc.local is a script executed on boot...it might not be the exact right way to do it but it'll work
[10:28] <kevor_> i'm sure it will work, that's not the problem :P
[10:28] <ShaRose> ubuntu understand Award Modular BIOS V4.51PG?
[10:28] <Xados> xchat-gnome or plain xchat?
[10:28] <hexstar> that is very old
[10:28] <hexstar> sharose
[10:29] <ShaRose> it seems i pinged out again :P
[10:29] <m4n> kevor_: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:29] <m4n> kevor_: you say auto eth1
[10:29] <pawan> hi
[10:29] <kevor_> oooh, ok, but eth1 is static ip address
[10:29] <ompaul>  Xados xchat is what I use - the -gnome one does not "feel" as nice
[10:30] <ShaRose> hello?
[10:30] <hexstar> hello sharose
[10:30] <ShaRose> !ping
[10:30] <ubotu> pong
[10:30] <m4n> kevor_: i dont think that makes a difference. you can use static there
[10:30] <ShaRose> something tells me i may get dropped soon
[10:30] <m4n> kevor_: "iface eth1 inet static"  i guess
[10:30] <pawan> whats up
[10:31] <vp_> what's uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppppppppppppp
[10:31] <m4n> pawan: what are you upto?
[10:31] <ShaRose> I'll try disconnecting and reconnection
[10:31] <kevor_> rebooting now :)
[10:31] <kevor_> m4n: thanks, it works
[10:31] <hexstar> !flood | vp_
[10:31] <ubotu> vp_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:31] <m4n> ShaRose: you are lagging
[10:31] <ShaRose> and i'm back
[10:31] <m4n> kevor_: np
[10:31] <ShaRose> i know that :P
[10:31] <pawan> cant we use webcam on irc channel
[10:32] <hexstar> lol
[10:32] <ShaRose> i had to reconnect myself
[10:32] <Injen> I will give someone 100 bucks to whomever talk's Khaled in to making a linux(ubuntu to stay on topic) :) version of mIRC
[10:32] <hexstar> pawan: uhh...this is not adult channel
[10:32] <ShaRose> anyways, my bois is Award Modular BIOS V4.51PG
[10:32] <m4n> pawan: are you from a different planet, by any chance ?
[10:32] <hexstar> pawan: try #adult
[10:32] <dade> hey how do I get the beryl icon, I can only seem to find the beryl manager.//? and how do I run beryl on startup?
[10:32] <hexstar> Sharose: that is a old bios, get a newer one from your pc manufacturers website
[10:32] <m4n> dade: how do you start it ?
[10:33] <dade> yyea
[10:33] <m4n> dade: cant you plug that into one of the init scripts ?
[10:33] <ShaRose> i don't even know if they exist anymore
[10:33] <hexstar> who made the pc ShaRose?
[10:33] <dade> how do you start it, I don't want to run it by typing "beryl" in terminal, cause the terminal stays open
[10:33] <ShaRose> a local companie
[10:33] <ShaRose> *company
[10:33] <hexstar> dade: you can do beryl& and that will let you close terminal
[10:34] <ShaRose> I'm trying to find mobo maker
[10:34] <hexstar> ShaRose: ah....
[10:34] <m4n> dade: use that inside *dm (kdm or gdm or xdm or something? )
[10:34] <dem0n> yo something seems to be wrong with my sevices
[10:34] <hexstar> ShaRose: yeah, you'll have to look inside the computer on the mobo for some model number
[10:34] <dade> beryl& didn't work
[10:34] <dem0n> whn i start in single mode they work when not they dont bu ill fix in the morning
[10:35] <hexstar> dade: what did it say?
[10:35] <ShaRose> the only labels i see are award and intel
[10:35] <CheshireViking> dade, try this on ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440388, first question is about how to autostart beryl
[10:35] <dade> reloading options
[10:35] <ShaRose> i think i see something
[10:36] <hexstar> sharose: what?
[10:36] <ShaRose> GA-686LX3
[10:36] <hexstar> ah yeah that's probably somthing
[10:36] <hexstar> lemme see
[10:37] <hexstar> yes that's the motherboard model #, congrats :)
[10:37] <hexstar> now to try and track down their website
[10:37] <hexstar> this appears to be the mobo: http://www.tamayatech.com/parts.php?g=GA686LX3
[10:37] <ShaRose> i lag out again?
[10:38] <hexstar> sharose: found the site...it's slow...
[10:38] <gartra1> !dvds
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <gartra1> !dvd
[10:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:38] <ShaRose> so's my internet as you may have guessed :P
[10:39] <Anudhyan> Hello, I've a Realtek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet Adapter and its not being detected in ubuntu. Is there anything I can do to get it to work?
[10:39] <ShaRose> my parents may come down here expecting a working ubuntu, and me asleep in my bed. boy will they be peeved.
[10:39] <ShaRose> !ping
[10:39] <ubotu> pong
[10:40] <hexstar> ShaRose: download latest bios here: http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList/bios/motherboard_bios_ga-686lx3_2.4c.exe, it looks like you'll need to extract it in windows :(
[10:40] <ShaRose> no biggie
[10:40] <jetscreamer> lies
[10:40] <ShaRose> I'm running xp on this machine
[10:41] <hexstar> ShaRose: ah ok
[10:41] <jetscreamer> cabextract unshield orange
[10:41] <ShaRose> do i need a floppy :P
[10:41] <hexstar> shaRose: so yeah, extract it and read the readme file. That should explain how to do the update
[10:41] <hexstar> ShaRose: yeah you will :P :)
[10:41] <ShaRose> shit
[10:41] <ShaRose> no cd D:
[10:41] <jetscreamer> actually all you need is a clean dos env... you can run the files off of hd or usb stick
[10:42] <ShaRose> wow that site is slow
[10:42] <hexstar> ShaRose: well, you could burn a cd too...http://bootdisk.com/plan10/flashcd.zip and http://bootdisk.com/txtfiles/flashcd.txt
[10:42] <hexstar> ShaRose: they're in spain :o
[10:42] <ShaRose> :O
[10:42] <ShaRose> I'm in newfoundland :O
[10:42] <hexstar> lol
[10:43] <ShaRose> still 'starting'
[10:43] <ShaRose> lol
[10:43] <hexstar> lol
[10:43] <hexstar> yeah the site is very slow unfortunately
[10:43] <pawan> any bluetooth software for ubuntu
[10:44] <gartra1> built in
[10:45] <ShaRose> on another note, once i got bored and connected my wiimote to my pc
[10:45] <bobby> hello?
[10:45] <ShaRose> i built a car in garrysmod with it :D
[10:45] <CheshireViking> !bluetooth | pawan
[10:45] <ubotu> pawan: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:45] <hexstar> I just love how gigabyte puts ads on the left side of their webpages XDF
[10:45] <hexstar> *XD
[10:45] <bobby> hm i need help on installing Ubuntu? @_@;
[10:45] <ShaRose> the ads probably load faster
[10:45] <hexstar> bobby: what's wrong?
[10:46] <bobby> can you install it withought having to have the CD?
[10:46] <CheshireViking> !install | bobby
[10:46] <ubotu> bobby: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:46] <ShaRose> :S
[10:46] <bobby> because my computer cant burn CDs
[10:46] <hexstar> bobby: yeah, with netinstall
[10:46] <dissection> What is a CLI Instant Messenger on Linux that supports Yahoo, MSN and AIM?
[10:46] <bobby> whats netinstall
[10:46] <hexstar> bobby: http://mediakey.dk/~cc/ubuntu-netboot-and-netinstall-with-pxe/
[10:47] <Anudhyan> Can anybody help me detect my ethernet card?
[10:47] <Tenen> do ifconfig
[10:47] <gordonjcp> Anudhyan: yes, it's in your PC
[10:47] <hexstar> dissection: pidgen
[10:47] <hexstar> !info pidgen
 lspci
[10:47] <ubotu> Package pidgen does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:47] <ShaRose> i reconnected again
[10:47] <dimebar> dissection: : finch
[10:47] <shijith> how i can ply mp3 in ubuntu
[10:48] <hexstar> !info pidgin
[10:48] <Anudhyan> Well ifconfig doesnt help. pppoeconf says 'theres no working ethernet card.
[10:48] <dissection> hexstar: pidgin != CLI
[10:48] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:48] <hexstar> oh cli
[10:48] <Tenen> guys i need to ask a question, does ubuntu 7.04 have madwifi installed by default,  as i switched to kubuntu but it has no madwifi in default install and i cant get my wifi/internet to work
[10:48] <hexstar> irssci
[10:48] <dissection> dimebar: Okay, let me see. Thanks
[10:48] <hexstar> !info irssci
[10:48] <Anudhyan> nicle: could you elaborate?
[10:48] <ubotu> Package irssci does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:48] <hexstar> er it's something like that
[10:48] <dissection> irssi is an IRC client
[10:48] <pawan> cant connect to my bluetooth device
[10:48] <pawan> bluesoliel
[10:49] <Anudhyan> I googled and a few ppl have a prob detecting RTL8139
[10:49] <Anudhyan> But theres no solution.
[10:49] <bobby> so what am i supposed to be doing on this site?
[10:49] <Tenen> !info madwifi
[10:49] <ubotu> Package madwifi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:49] <hexstar> dissection: oh sorry, I'm tired
[10:49] <bobby> im here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[10:49] <dissection> :)
[10:49] <shijith> how cani play mp3 in ubuntu
[10:49] <hexstar> bobby: that's good :)
[10:49] <hexstar> just follow the steps
 just run the command: lspci
[10:49] <bobby> kay
[10:49] <hexstar> although really, cd install is easier...cd drives are cheap, you should buy one (how are you surviving without one?!)
[10:50] <Anudhyan> Ok thx nicle
[10:50] <gumjo> hello anyone use avant dock...
[10:50] <jetscreamer> lspci | less if it's like big
[10:50] <pawan> any good bluetooth application to transfer files
[10:50] <shijith> pls help any one pls
[10:50] <hexstar> !bluetooth | pawan
[10:50] <ubotu> pawan: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:50] <Tenen> Is madwifi by default installed on a base ubuntu install? i Know my ubuntu 5.10 does but my kubuntu 7.04 doesnt , let me know plz
[10:50] <pawan> !bluetooth
[10:51] <dissection> dimebar: Where do I get finch from?
[10:51] <hexstar> !info finch
[10:51] <ubotu> Package finch does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:51] <hexstar> doh!
[10:51] <CheeseGardener> Hello :)
[10:51] <hexstar> hi cheesegardener
[10:51] <CheeseGardener> Is it ok if I ask a question?
[10:51] <hexstar> yes
[10:51] <CheeseGardener> or is someone in line before me?
[10:51] <dimebar> dissection: think it comes with pidgin
[10:51] <hexstar> !ask
[10:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:51] <bobby> where do i find "Tftpd32.exe"
 run: sudo apt-get install audacious
[10:52] <CheeseGardener> Well, when I use ubuntu, I get the normal loading screen, and it asks me what I want to do when I boot from the CD
[10:52] <hexstar> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Tftpd32.exe&btnG=Google+Search bobby
[10:52] <CheeseGardener> then I click "start and install"
[10:52] <Tenen> Is madwifi by default installed on a base ubuntu install? i Know my ubuntu 5.10 does but my kubuntu 7.04 doesnt , let me know plz
[10:52] <hexstar> CheeseGardener: ok..
[10:52] <CheeseGardener> it takes a while but, the loading screen completes, and it sends me this screen where it is going down a list of things
[10:52] <CheeseGardener> checking them off as "OK" and such
[10:52] <hexstar> right
[10:53] <ShaRose> HUZZAH
[10:53] <CheeseGardener> Not really any major problems there either.
[10:53] <hexstar> sharose: ?
[10:53] <CheeseGardener> Then it brings me to this... brownish white screen, with a mouse on it, and nothing else.
[10:53] <dimebar> dissection: yeah; it is bundled with pidgin
[10:53] <ShaRose> found a better mirroy
[10:53] <ShaRose> *mirror
[10:53] <hexstar> sharose: ah :D
[10:53] <ShaRose> america.giga-byte.com/FileList/bios/motherboard_bios_ga-686lx3_2.4c.exe
[10:53] <CheeseGardener> and it just stays on there.  It doesn't change or load any bars.
[10:53] <ShaRose> lol
[10:53] <hexstar> cheesegardener: is the light on the cd drive still lashing?
[10:53] <hexstar> *flashing
[10:53] <CheeseGardener> No.
[10:53] <hexstar> hmm
[10:54] <CheeseGardener> I waited around 20-25 minutes.
[10:54] <hexstar> how much ram do you have?
[10:54] <CheeseGardener> 1 gig of ram
[10:54] <bobby> hexstar where do i find
[10:54] <CheeseGardener> DDR212
[10:54] <bobby> "Tftpd32.exe
[10:54] <Xados> any distorted pixels at the screen center?
[10:54] <bobby> "
[10:54] <CheeseGardener> No.
[10:54] <bobby> didnt mean to hit enter
[10:54] <Tenen> Is madwifi by default installed on a base ubuntu install? i Know my ubuntu 5.10 does but my kubuntu 7.04 doesnt , let me know plz
[10:54] <hexstar> bobby: http://tftpd32.jounin.net/
[10:54] <CheeseGardener> It just stops loading.
[10:54] <CheeseGardener> For some reason.  I suspect not completely.
[10:54] <safwan> i have a problem with sound, does anyone know
[10:54] <safwan> no sound
[10:54] <ShaRose> wait
[10:55] <CheeseGardener> Because when I hold the power button, it goes to a screen saying "System is halting!"
[10:55] <hexstar> CheeseGardener: You might try downloading the iso from a different mirror and reburning, it could be a bad copy
[10:55] <ShaRose> both my computers are hooked up in a network
[10:55] <CheeseGardener> I tested the CD, but maybe you are right
[10:55] <ShaRose> is it possible to flash over that?
[10:55] <CheeseGardener> My friend said to get the fiesty fawn version
[10:55] <CheeseGardener> He is trying to hook me up with what he has.
[10:55] <safwan> how do i configure the sound to work
[10:56] <hexstar> ShaRose: no, you will need to extract the files and follow the instructions. What you'll end up doing is booting off the floppy or cd and running the flash program from dos
[10:56] <CheshireViking> CheeseGardener, do you have access to another computer you can try the cd on, it'll help identify whether its a hardware problem or whether the cd is faulty
[10:56] <Tenen> Is madwifi by default installed on a base ubuntu install? i Know my ubuntu 5.10 does but my kubuntu 7.04 doesnt, does it come installed by default in ubuntu 7.04 , let me know plz
[10:56] <CheeseGardener> I could test it on my brother's laptop
[10:56] <bobby> i think i'm going to need alot of help on this because i dont kno my ip address, or my gateway address or my "size of pool"
[10:56] <ShaRose> hexstar: can i flash over a ethernet cable by chance?
[10:56] <CheeseGardener> If he doesn't have it passworded.  But I'll have to change it back when I'm done to the normal boot chian
[10:56] <pawan> not able to pair bluetooth device
[10:56] <CheeseGardener> chain*
[10:56] <hexstar> sharose: no...do you not have a cd burner or floppy drive?
[10:57] <ShaRose> i have a dvd burner
[10:57] <hexstar> bobby: where is your cd drive? :P
[10:57] <ShaRose> i just don't wanna wasste a cd
[10:57] <ShaRose> :O
[10:57] <CheeseGardener> I'll go test the CD on his laptop if I can quickly.
[10:57] <ShaRose> i still have another small hd in the old comp
[10:57] <hexstar> ShaRose: ah, well you may have to sacrifice one unfortunately
[10:57] <CheshireViking> CheeseGardener, it'd be worth you doing that, all you need to do is put the cd in & start the computer up to test whether it boots properly, you won't need to install it
[10:57] <bobby> hexstar: i dont get it @_@;
[10:57] <ShaRose> can i put it on that
[10:57] <CheeseGardener> Ok.  I will be back soon to let you know.
[10:57] <hexstar> ShaRose: unless that drive only contains dos, no
[10:58] <ShaRose> it dosn't have anything on it
[10:58] <hexstar> bobby: do you have a cdrom drive?
[10:58] <bobby> yeah
[10:58] <hexstar> bobby: then download the cd image from ubuntu.com and burn it and use that
[10:59] <bobby> was the cd image the 700 MB download?
[10:59] <hexstar> ShaRose: you have to be in a complete dos environment to flash the bios, it won't work any other way
[10:59] <hexstar> bobby: yes
[10:59] <bobby> because if so i already downloaded that, i believe but it told me that i need to burn a cd and restart my computer while the CD is in my drive
[10:59] <ShaRose> sigh
[10:59] <Taggard> Does anyone know a good t utorial on how to install Ubuntu on my Mac? I've tried to and whenever I start the livecd I get that X has failed to start.
[10:59] <bobby> and i cant burn CDs
[10:59] <hexstar> bobby: right, you need to burn the downloaded image onto the cd and reboot onto the cd
[11:00] <hexstar> !install
[11:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:00] <bobby> so i cant really do anything if i cant burn?
[11:00] <hexstar> oh!
[11:00] <hexstar> bobby: you can have a cd shipped to you: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[11:00] <ankitag> I am trying to install 7.04 on my laptop but the X interface fails to start and I get the ubuntu prompt. What command do I run to start the install in text mode
[11:00] <pawan> how to set wireless devices such as bluetooth
[11:00] <bobby> i know but is there any other way to do it WITHOUGHT a CD?
[11:01] <bobby> WITHOUT*
[11:01] <hexstar> yes the netinstall but as you saw that is difficult to do
[11:01] <bobby> hm =|
[11:01] <hexstar> the cd is free, all it costs is shipping
 ftp install
[11:01] <Tenen> Is madwifi by default installed on a base ubuntu install? i Know my ubuntu 5.10 does but my kubuntu 7.04 doesnt, does it come installed by default in ubuntu 7.04 , let me know plz
[11:01] <bobby> whats ftp install
[11:01] <SoulRaven> hy, how i recomplie the vlc with ffmpeg, lame and flv/
[11:01] <SoulRaven> ?
[11:01] <bobby> hexstar im only 15 so i cant really do anything other then downloading and installing, nothing in real life =|
 why can't u use the cd ?
[11:01] <_cyrus_> bobby: why don't u use imgburn
[11:01] <CheshireViking> bobby, there is an option to use a usb stick to install, i've not done it myself, but its an option for you
[11:01] <hexstar> bobby: oh
[11:01] <bobby> wow...
[11:02] <bobby> insmod i dont have the cd
[11:02] <hexstar> bobby: well, you'll have to ask your parents to pay the shipping...the shipping shouldn't be much
[11:02] <bobby> cyrus i dont kno what that is
[11:02] <ankitag> I am trying to install 7.04 on my laptop but the X interface fails to start and I get the ubuntu prompt. What command do I run to start the install in text mode
 d/l it
[11:02] <SoulRaven> because the vlc that i installed with apt-get is not compiled with this encoders
[11:02] <pawan> unable to pair with bluetooth device
[11:02] <hexstar> insmod: he has no burner
[11:02] <bobby> cheshire whats that...
[11:02] <hexstar> d/l=download
[11:02] <bobby> hexstar i dont think my mom will help me because she tells me to do it myself...
[11:02] <pawan> i am trying to pair my nokia 6600 with bluesoliel dongle
[11:02] <bobby> insmod whats it for
[11:03] <insmod> so do a usb
[11:03] <CheshireViking> bobby, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:03] <_cyrus_> bobby: do a search and download that program - it burns an iso image for u on a cd
[11:03] <hexstar> he has no cd burner
 do a usb or ftp (old)
[11:03] <bobby> and i dont have an blank CDs...
[11:04] <hexstar> bobby: next thing you get, cd burner and blank cds ;)
[11:04] <bobby> yeah, i cant burn CDs guys and i cant afford anything
 i told you several ways
[11:04] <bobby> sorry insmod i think i missed it then =|
 usb ftp laplink netinstall etc
[11:04] <Vietnow> Hello! I've run into a problem after installation of ubuntu on a E machine T6534 w/ athl 64, can anyone offer me some help??
[11:04] <Busata> just ask :)
[11:04] <hexstar> bobby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:04] <bobby> whats the easiest that i can just do right here on my computer?
[11:05] <hexstar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:05] <bobby> im at the "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick" site
[11:05] <hexstar> do you have a usb stick?
[11:05] <bobby> nope =|
[11:05] <hexstar> ok...
 look up loadlin
[11:06] <bobby> on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick site?
[11:06] <bobby> well i mean at the top right spot u mean?
 do you have a cdrom ?
[11:06] <bobby> a drive or a cd?
[11:07] <hexstar> bobby: you there?
[11:07] <Max_-> I would like to use sudo -i while I'm in Gnome, how can I do? (I want to play with files and folders w/o having to go in a terminal...)
 they will ship a cd for free
[11:07] <bobby> yeah
[11:07] <keisangi> hi there
[11:07] <bobby> insmod i'm not really trying to make this into such a big deal =|
 yup or just have a friend burn one
[11:07] <CheeseGardener> Ok I am back.
[11:07] <bobby> as to have it a week long thing
[11:07] <hexstar> bobby: download this: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.zip , then install this: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ ...this will let you install ubuntu without a cd
[11:07] <bobby> and i dont kno anyone with ubuntu
[11:07] <hexstar> it'll run ubuntu inside of your current os
[11:07] <bullgard4> What kind of program is 'kinit'? On a  konsole it prints: "kinit: No  resume image, doing normal boot ..." I cannot find kinit via Synaptic. man kinit: "There is no manual entry for kinit."
[11:07] <CheeseGardener> It works on the other computer.  They are both laptops, and both similar.
[11:07] <bobby> hexstar both?
[11:07] <hexstar> yes download both
 you can do it on win
[11:08] <keisangi> how do i setup service that autostart on boot in ubuntu ? on fedora i used a tool called "setup" ..
[11:08] <hexstar> the zip is the vmware image, vmware player lets you run the image. With that you will not have to leave your current windows install and can still enjoy ubuntu
[11:08] <keisangi> say for exemple i would like to desactive gdm or kdm so they won't start when my system boot up
[11:08] <bobby> ok
 you don't need Ubuntu to burn it
[11:08] <hexstar> :)
[11:09] <bobby> insmod what?
 never mind lol
[11:09] <bobby> lol, okay
[11:10] <legendaryfish> test
[11:10] <CheeseGardener> I cannot figure out the problem it seems though.  I mean, both of the computers I used it on are Toshiba laptops.  His is a little newer than mine however.
[11:10] <hexstar> !test
[11:10] <ubotu> failed
[11:10] <CheeseGardener> Ubuntu works on his, so it is a hardware issue.
[11:10] <CheshireViking> CheeseGardener, what laptop do you have?
[11:10] <ShaRose> ok, i think it's flashed
[11:10] <ShaRose> now how do i reinstall grub
[11:10] <hexstar> CheeseGardener: it's probably a video card issue
[11:10] <hexstar> !grub | ShaRose
[11:10] <ubotu> ShaRose: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:11] <CheeseGardener> A toshiba satellite M45-S265
[11:11] <CheeseGardener> with an added 512 MB of DDR212 ram
[11:11] <Vietnow> Hello! I've run into a problem after installation of ubuntu on a E machine T6534 w/ athl 64, can anyone offer me some help??
[11:11] <bobby> gosh, so much downloading -.-
[11:11] <CheeseGardener> I think it is my CD rom drive?  It reads the CD but continues to "pause" it's reading.
[11:12] <hexstar> bobby: at least it's free :)
[11:12] <bobby> yeah =|
[11:12] <CheeseGardener> It will read a little, pause, then read a little more.
[11:12] <hexstar> do something like play a game or watch tv while it downloads :)
[11:12] <bobby> im using windows 98SE so.... hopefully itll all still work
[11:12] <ShaRose> please note i am running the text install
[11:12] <ShaRose> hexstar?
[11:12] <bobby> hexstar: btw a friend said ubuntu isnt good if i just play games and stuff, that true?
[11:13] <bobby> or will it not make much of a difference
[11:13] <bobby> since im already using windows 98se
[11:13] <hexstar> Sharose: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:13] <bobby> [ which isnt good at all ]
[11:13] <cafuego> bobby: Not for windows games no, on account of not being windows.
[11:13] <ShaRose> :S
[11:13] <cafuego> bobby: linux games run fine.
[11:13] <howlingmadhowi1> windows 98se? fun for the whole family :)
[11:13] <ShaRose> that dosn't tell me anything
[11:13] <bobby> whats the difference?
[11:13] <hexstar> bobby: that is true unfortunately, however with the vmware setup you will still keep the windows install
[11:13] <ShaRose> it says livecd
[11:13] <bobby> oh ok
[11:13] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know why my CD rom drive might be pausing?
[11:13] <bobby> so it wont make much of a difference for games, right?
[11:13] <CheshireViking> CheeseGardener, http://www.duncarin.com/wp2/?p=13
[11:13] <ShaRose> i am running the TEXT INSTALLER
[11:14] <Po1ic3man> ,   ?
 disk is no good
[11:14] <hexstar> oh, did you install already or are you just now installing?
[11:14] <ShaRose> and i don't want to have to do the entire installation over agin
[11:14] <CheshireViking> CheeseGardener, that website says that there's problems with the live cd on your laptop, but gives a suggestion on how to get round them
[11:14] <hexstar> Sharose
[11:14] <howlingmadhowi1> vmware or similar allow you to install windows inside linux. to the best of my knowledge there are still some problems with graphics drivers, so i'd look into that if i were you beforehand
[11:14] <ShaRose> :P
[11:14] <MindOfChaos> hello
[11:14] <rausb0> bobby: if you are using win98se now, i suspend your hardware is quite old and maybe too slow to run ubuntu
[11:15] <TonySu> xchat
[11:15] <rausb0> s/suspend/suspect
[11:15] <Po1ic3man> any one speak russian ?
[11:15] <hexstar> oh...ok well. You can't do a non text install?
[11:15] <bobby> raus
[11:15] <ShaRose> nope
[11:15] <pawan> how to transfer files from phone to pc using bluetooth
[11:15] <MindOfChaos> Any one else had experience with dual booting with vista
[11:15] <bobby> it was once windows xp but the college that had it before me
[11:15] <bobby> changed it to windows 98se
[11:15] <CheeseGardener> Ok.  Thank you very much Cheshire
[11:15] <bobby> because thats the only windows that was working with them at that time
[11:15] <cmoi-juju> where I can finddrivers Alsa 1.0.14rc1?
[11:15] <CheeseGardener> I will try adding that and see what happens.
[11:15] <MindOfChaos> Hey Ubuntu does manage to run on old hardware
[11:15] <CheeseGardener> I will let you know if it helps.
[11:15] <hexstar> ShaRose: ok, then try ctrl+alt+f8, keep doing that with different fx keys until you get one with a login prompt
[11:15] <CheshireViking> !ru | Po1ic3man
[11:15] <ubotu> Po1ic3man:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:15] <hexstar> type root, root and then follow those instructions
[11:15] <hexstar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:15] <ankitag> Hi, I have a desktop install CD. Is there any way for me to run th text mode install
[11:15] <bobby> well whatever im still trying
[11:16] <CheeseGardener> I will come back here either way.
[11:16] <dissection> I tried to install pidgin but it says gaim conflicts with the intsalled package gaim-data. What do I do?
[11:16] <hexstar> bobby: I think that vmware player will work on 98se, not sure
[11:16] <CheshireViking> CheeseGardener, good luck, hope it works for you
[11:16] <wizzo> I was wondering if someone can help me out here, how can i find out the ports that xchat uses so i can forward the ports on my router?
[11:16] <bobby> kay
[11:16] <CheeseGardener> I hope so too.  And thank you again.
[11:16] <cmoi-juju> where I can find drivers Alsa 1.0.14rc1?
[11:16] <cafuego> dissection: Remove gaim and gaim-data.
[11:16] <howlingmadhowi1> wizzo: it may be mentioned in /etc/services
[11:16] <Vietnow> Directly after installing ubuntu on my friends computer, it rebooted into wheat appeared to be a text based ubuntu, I think its something to do with the nvidia video card drivers, anyone know what this is all about? I have no clue to get to an actual desktop
[11:16] <wizzo> kk thank you very much
[11:16] <dissection> cafuego: I don't want to remove gaim. But I also need a CLI based IM.
[11:16] <Taggard> I'm using an external disk I used to use with my Mac, and its HFS+ formatted. Anyway, its got stuff I need on it but its unreadable due to permissions. How do I read it?
[11:17] <rausb0> MindOfChaos: but the hardware must not be too old. i doubt ubuntu (with gnome desktop) will run smoothly on machines with 128mb ram.
[11:17] <cafuego> dissection: pidgin IS gaim. You cna't have both.
[11:17] <hexstar> Going, later
[11:17] <MindOfChaos> oh
[11:17] <dissection> cafuego: Okay, what other CLI IMs are available?
[11:17] <MindOfChaos> My old computers still have 512mb ram
[11:17] <MindOfChaos> 1.2GHz Celeron
[11:17] <ShaRose> fx keys?
[11:17] <rausb0> MindOfChaos: when i say "old" i mean it
[11:17] <cafuego> dissection: neither gaim not pidgin are cli anyway afaik.
[11:17] <MindOfChaos> Running Windows 98
[11:17] <bobby> hexstar: and 512MB RAM minimum <--
[11:18] <howlingmadhowi1> Taggard: have you tried reading it as root?
[11:18] <MindOfChaos> Ubuntu runs ok with 256mb
[11:18] <cafuego> dissection: I used to use micq, but that only does icq afaik.
[11:18] <bobby> okay
[11:18] <Taggard> howlingmadhowi1: No, thats essentially what im asking how to do
[11:18] <MindOfChaos> I havn't tryed with less
[11:18] <rausb0> MindOfChaos: yeah, my xubuntu also runs ok with 256mb
[11:18] <dissection> cafuego: Okay. Someone here told me pidgin comes with a CLI version too.
[11:18] <bobby> mindofchaos: were u talking to me?
[11:18] <dissection> cafuego: Any others? I need a CLI IM that supports Yahoo and MSN.
[11:18] <dimebar> dissection: it does
[11:19] <dissection> dimebar: But I can't install it without removing gaim. Any other CLI IMs I can use?
[11:19] <cafuego> dissection: No idea
[11:19] <cafuego> dissection: pidgin *is* gaim
[11:19] <pawan> how to search for bluetooth device
[11:19] <howlingmadhowi1> Taggard: i always use the command line for this stuff. are you okay on the command line? if not, the easiest way to do it would be to configure the root account and then log back in as root
[11:19] <khaleel5000> hello how do you change  mac address in ubuntu
[11:19] <dissection> Then why the two names?
[11:19] <cafuego> dissection: The packages conflict, so if you want pidgin, remove gaim. If you want gaim, remove pidgin.
[11:19] <cafuego> dissection: it was renamed.
[11:19] <ShaRose> sigh.
[11:20] <cafuego> khaleel5000: via `ifconfig'
[11:20] <Taggard> howlingmadhowi1: Done it, thanks :)
[11:20] <bobby> hexstar
[11:20] <CheshireViking> dissection, there was legal action because of the name, Gaim was too much like Aim so it was renamed
[11:20] <dissection> I read somewhere that pidgin is unstable.
[11:20] <dissection> And its not in the Ubuntu repositories anyway
[11:20] <cafuego> dissection: I read somewhere the earth is flat <heh>
[11:21] <howlingmadhowi1> khaleel5000: have a look here: http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
[11:21] <cafuego> I find it works fine, but you will need to backport it from the gutsy source, or find a package somewhere.
[11:21] <ShaRose> he left
[11:21] <dissection> There's no need to be sarcastic, cafuego.
[11:21] <howlingmadhowi1> Taggard: did it work?
[11:21] <boris_> i just got 3 ubuntu feisty CDS from shipit and my brother's old computer starts and when i try to click on start or install button it says invalid or corrupt kernel image
[11:22] <ShaRose> GRRRR
[11:22] <khaleel5000> cafuego:  howlingmadhowi1  thanks
[11:22] <cafuego> dissection: I though there was, hence my sarcasm.
[11:22] <boris_> computer is running win98
[11:22] <dimebar> dissection: I'd install pidgin over gaim (losing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage isn't really a problem)
[11:22] <boris_> and i think it fullfills all requirements
[11:23] <ShaRose> ok, then try ctrl+alt+f8, keep doing that with different fx keys until you get one with a login prompt
[11:23] <cafuego> dimebar: Especially what with on the next dist-upgrade gaim being replaced by pidgin anyway...
[11:23] <ShaRose> what the heck are fx keys?
[11:23] <cafuego> ShaRose: The top row on Yoru keyboard, F1 through F12.
[11:23] <rausb0> ShaRose: f1, f2, f3, ...
[11:23] <dissection> Can't finch be installed separately without having to install pidgin?
[11:23] <ShaRose> oh
[11:24] <Azraeli> the sound through my headphones just died when I turned on my computer
[11:24] <cafuego> dissection: I expect they use the same backend libraries, so probably not.
[11:24] <lightning18> i need help: Motorola SM56 Modem
[11:24] <piti> Hi everyone, I just tried to use splashy, but it isn't set yet. Is this normal, can't I use it ?
[11:25] <ShaRose> nothing
[11:25] <see1> i am chinese
[11:25] <ShaRose> f1 to f12
[11:26] <see1>
[11:26] <WhitE-DeMoN> i have a problem here
[11:27] <CheshireViking> !cn | see1
[11:27] <ubotu> see1: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:27] <howlingmadhowi1> ShaRose: hold down the left ctrl and alt keys and then press F2. if everything goes away, hold down the left ctrl and alt keys and press F7
[11:27] <see1> thank you
[11:27] <act1v8> X on Ubuntu 7.04 LiveCD looks like it doesn't find the resolution of my monitor on a laptop. The resolution should be 1280x800 but in /etc/X11/xorg.conf the resolution is 1024x786 but I can't see a thing on the screen! The screen is turned off when I'm on console 7, on console 1 I see the terminal. Help!
[11:27] <lightning18> i need help: Motorola SM56 Modem or any help about sl-modem
[11:28] <howlingmadhowi1> act1v8: sounds like the x-server isn't starting. which driver are you using according to xorg.conf?
[11:28] <WhitE-DeMoN> i downloaded an online game, RPG, and installed it. It does the Auto Patch but it doesn't reach the game itself. It is a Windows game, but i tried that on Wine, and thats what happens. May anyone help please?
[11:28] <Azraeli> Anyone know how to get headphones to work with a realtek ALC883 soundcard. They were working last time I used to computer but now they don't.
[11:28] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: the Radeon driver "ati"
[11:28] <ShaRose> sorry, i think i lagged out agin
[11:29] <ShaRose> after i said f1 - f12
[11:29] <howlingmadhowi1> ShaRose: hold down the left ctrl and alt keys and then press F2. if everything goes away, hold down the left ctrl and alt keys and press F7
[11:29] <Frogzoo> WhitE-DeMoN: appdb.winehq.com
[11:29] <c0_j0mLo_fZz> alow
[11:29] <ubuntu_noob> Hello
[11:29] <NETWizz> How do I get a list of all installed package
[11:29] <NETWizz> I want a list of all my installed packages
[11:29] <ShaRose> on the main ubunutu screen i take it
[11:29] <WhitE-DeMoN> Frogzoo, it is there.
[11:29] <rausb0> NETWizz: dpkg -l
[11:29] <WhitE-DeMoN> Frogzoo, it is there.
[11:29] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: but if X isn't starting shouldn't I see a terminal at console 7 ?
[11:29] <howlingmadhowi1> act1v8: mm, as far as i know, the ati driver looks at xorg.conf to find out what it should be doing. you could try manually editing xorg.conf to include the graphics modes of your monitor and then restarting the x-server
[11:29] <ubuntu_noob> Sorry, I cannot remember your name, but the person who helped me with reinstalled fixed my problems
[11:29] <ubuntu_noob> Thankyou!
[11:29] <bullgard4> What is a 'kernel handler'?
[11:30] <howlingmadhowi1> act1v8: nope
[11:30] <Frogzoo> WhitE-DeMoN: good, so read how to get it working
[11:30] <WhitE-DeMoN> Frogzoo, and most ppl played ity
[11:30] <Frogzoo> !appdb | WhitE-DeMoN
[11:30] <ubotu> WhitE-DeMoN: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:30] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: I tried that. nothing
[11:30] <beni> does ubuntu support his windows filesystem NFS?
[11:30] <ShaRose> ctrl + alt + f2 does NOTHING
[11:30] <WhitE-DeMoN> Frogzoo, itb
[11:30] <Frogzoo> beni: does linux support NFS? certainly
[11:31] <howlingmadhowi1> act1v8: did you check the default depth? what happens if you change the driver from "ati" to "vesa"? does x-windows start?
[11:31] <WhitE-DeMoN> Frogzoo, the name is "Conquer Online"
[11:31] <beni> Frogzoo: my mum had an HDD crash and i need to recover data
[11:31] <Frogzoo> WhitE-DeMoN: itb?
[11:31] <wizzo_> i was wondering if someone could tell me how to set up what ports xchat uses so i can port forward my router
[11:31] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: let me try
[11:31] <Frogzoo> beni: you mean NTFS?
[11:31] <ShaRose> howlingmadhowi1: ctrl + alt + f2 does nothing.
[11:31] <beni> Frogzoo: yep, sorry I spelled it wrong
[11:31] <WhitE-DeMoN> Frogzoo,  sorry
[11:32] <ankitag> Is there any way to do a text install from a desktop install CD?
[11:32] <lightning18> NETWizz: use synaptic package manager
[11:32] <howlingmadhowi1> ShaRose: that's strange. i wonder why
[11:32] <dissection> When I try to remove gaim, it says nautlius-sendto and ubuntu-desktop will be removed :S
[11:32] <ankitag> The X is not able to start and the installation fails
[11:32] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: yes. I see gdm now :)
[11:32] <Frogzoo> beni: don't know, but gl
[11:33] <neuber> Hey I can't get my terminal to work
[11:33] <CheshireViking> !ntfs-3g | beni
[11:33] <ubotu> beni: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:33] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: it's just that the whole screen is streched and fuzzy... shouldn't it be sharp and crisp?
[11:33] <aleksanteri> where's the ubuntu wallpapers located at?
[11:34] <omegabeta> where do you place .sh scripts so that you can call/invoke them from anywhere?
[11:34] <bullgard4> What kind of program is 'kinit'? On a  konsole it prints: "kinit: No  resume image, doing normal boot ..." I cannot find kinit via Synaptic. man kinit: "There is no manual entry for kinit."
[11:34] <act1v8> aleksanteri: /usr/share/backgrounds I think
[11:34] <piti> where is the ubuntu splash image ?
[11:34] <aleksanteri> ok, i'll check
[11:34] <neuber> can someone tell my why I cant get a terminal to open?
[11:34] <aleksanteri> act1v8: thanks
[11:34] <ShaRose> Still no idea what to do here
[11:34] <ShaRose> -_-
[11:35] <corentin> Hi all :)
[11:35] <tupa> neuber, several answers come to my mind
[11:35] <neuber> tupa, like what?
[11:35] <wizzo_> what am i doing wrong that no file that is trying to be sent to me actually starts downloading? it just says "Starting" with no progress
[11:35] <tupa> neuber are you running a Desktop Environment?
[11:35] <dissection> When I try to remove gaim, it says nautlius-sendto and ubuntu-desktop will be removed. What do I do?
[11:36] <neuber> tupa, uh... i think so?
[11:36] <tupa> neuber, which one?
[11:36] <tupa> dissection, they are transition packages, it is safe to remove them (at least ubuntu-desktop, let me see if the other one too)
[11:36] <neuber> tupa, i'm not really sure... i'm pretty new at this...
[11:37] <tupa> neuber, did you installed, ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu
[11:37] <dissection> What is ubuntu-desktop?
[11:37] <neuber> tupa, ubuntu
[11:37] <beni> Are there any good data recovery tools for linux??
[11:37] <tupa> neuber: ALT+F2 -> gnome-terminal <enter>
[11:37] <beni> can anyone help me with this? There are very important Documents on this HDD :(
[11:37] <act1v8> beni: yes there was one... I forgot it's name
[11:37] <databuddy> if i use ntpdate to update time it will autoupdate immediately rite?
[11:38] <neuber> tupa, that doesn't seem to do anything
[11:38] <Netspirit> hello all, is there any french ubuntu users here?
[11:38] <neuber> tupa, i don't think i'm using gnome right now
[11:38] <tupa> dissection, installer for all packages of ubuntu-desktop, that includes gaim, so you remove the dependency and you remove the package
[11:38] <wizzo_> i would really like for someone to tell me what i'm doing wrong lol why wont any of my downloads actually start downloading? they just say starting
[11:38] <tupa> neuber try xterm
[11:38] <beni> !recovery
[11:38] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[11:39] <neuber> sweet
[11:39] <neuber> tupa, so why does that work, but the gui shortcut doesn't?
[11:39] <dissection> tupa: It says the same thing when I try to remove gaim-data
[11:39] <jamesdell> !bluetooth
[11:39] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:39] <Vietnow> Guys I need some help, I posted my question here >>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3114888#post3114888
[11:40] <tupa> neuber, I dunno, there can be several options, one is probably you removed gnome-terminal and that's why you couldn't run it with gnome-terminal command
[11:40] <neuber> tupa, how could i accidentally remove something like that?
[11:40] <tupa> dissection it is safe to remove it
[11:40] <Netspirit> PART
[11:41] <Netspirit> oups sorry
[11:41] <tupa> neuber, I dunno
[11:41] <dissection> tupa: But its also used by Sylpheed to send attachments from the file manager. So I'll need that
[11:41] <bullgard4> What does the switch -S in 'dpkg -S <name>' mean? I could not find it in man dpkg.
[11:42] <WhitE-DeMoN> !bluetooth
[11:42] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:42] <jamesdell> WhitE-DeMoN: something problem with your bluetooth?
[11:42] <WhitE-DeMoN> jamesdell, no, sorry and thanks :)
[11:43] <tupa> bullgard4, dpkg -S <name> == search a file in repository
[11:43] <wizzo_> anybody able to help me with download problem for xchat??
[11:43] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: I can't switch to resolution 1280x800... it always displays at 1024x786
[11:43] <bullgard4> tupa: Thank you very much.
[11:44] <jamesdell> WhitE-DeMoN: it's okey :)
[11:44] <WhitE-DeMoN> jamesdell, how can i update my Wine?
[11:44] <jamesdell> wizzo_: if you cant make it in apt-get, look it out in synaptic :)
[11:44] <Azraeli> can anyone help with sound problems?
[11:45] <jamesdell> WhitE-DeMoN: apt-get update wine ?
[11:45] <WhitE-DeMoN> jamesdell, thanks :D
[11:45] <jamesdell> WhitE-DeMoN: just tell me if that works :)
[11:45] <tupa> wizzo_ maybe it is a ports closed problem
[11:46] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: can I use another driver... that supports higher resolutions ?
[11:46] <wizzo> tupa, thats what i thought too but for some reason i must be a complete idiot and cant find where i can change the ports for xchat
[11:46] <dissection> tupa: And according to Synaptic Manager, its recommended that ubuntu-desktop is not removed.
[11:46] <dissection> Aren't there any other CLI IMs? :[
[11:46] <Vietnow> Helppppp    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3114888#post3114888
[11:47] <act1v8> dissection: there is Finch. I think it's a good one
[11:47] <jamesdell> wizzo: another way maybe try to visit xchat website and find any ubuntu installer :)
[11:47] <tupa> wizzo, are you sure you have a public IP and ports open?
[11:47] <WhitE-DeMoN> jamesdell, i am not the administrator :D
[11:48] <dissection> act1v8: I need to install pidgin to be able to use Finch. I need to remove Gaim to be able to install pidgin. I need to remove ubuntu-desktop be able to install pidgin and synaptic package manager recommends that I don't remove it.
[11:48] <tupa> wizzo, start a service like apache or proftpd and then follow this link: http://www.upseros.com/portscan.php
[11:48] <act1v8> dissection: ouch
[11:48] <tupa> wizzo if you don't have any green lights, you are blocked
[11:48] <wizzo> tupa, why the hell didnt i think of that lmao
[11:48] <act1v8> ! resolution > act1v8
[11:48] <CheeseGardener> Succcess :)
[11:49] <CheeseGardener> I'm on the live CD now :)
[11:49] <wizzo> tupa, do you happen to know what port range xchat actually uses though?
[11:49] <CheshireViking> CheeseGardener, welcome back,
[11:49] <CheeseGardener> Although I have a new question now:  Can someone walk me through partitioning a drive?
[11:49] <CheeseGardener> I would like to partition 10 gb for ubuntu
[11:49] <howlingmadhowi1> bullgard4: kinit is the kernel initialisation thread. it's part of the linux kernel :)
[11:49] <CheeseGardener> Off of an existing hard drive.
[11:49] <fluteflute> Partitioning from what? A windows install.
[11:50] <Kaitlyn> I have a spare computer i ONLY use as an SVN server. Can I put it into hibernate and it can continue to act as an SVN server?
[11:50] <CheeseGardener> Yes.  From a windows installed HD
[11:50] <tupa> wizzo, no, if you get green lights, and you are in DMZ (if you have a router) you don't have to worry about the port range
[11:50] <dcordes> !botsnack
[11:50] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:50] <fluteflute> Have you got a Ubuntu disk - which version have you got?
[11:50] <bullgard4> howlingmadhowi1: Please tell me what a kernel initialisation _thread_ is.
[11:50] <CheeseGardener> um I have fiesty fawn
[11:50] <fluteflute> live cd?
[11:50] <CheeseGardener> I believe
[11:50] <CheeseGardener> yes.
[11:50] <CheeseGardener> Live CD
[11:50] <fluteflute> ok
[11:51] <howlingmadhowi1> act1v8: sorry. my flatmate needed some help. i'm back now. a further possibility is that the refresh rates in xorg.conf aren't high enough
[11:51] <pawan> hi
[11:51] <pawan> any phonetools software for using with bluetooth
[11:52] <vaineh> hi, what exactly do K and S do in regards to the rcX.d??
[11:52] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: from what I saw in windows, the screen's max refresh rate is 60Hz but in System > Pref. > Screen Resolution it says 61Hz which is impossible
[11:52] <CheeseGardener> So, how would I go about partitioning some space from a windows hard drive?
[11:53] <fluteflute> http://www.howtoforge.com/dual_boot_windows_xp_vista_ubuntu_feisty
[11:53] <kblin> hi
[11:53] <kblin> what do I need to install to get manpages for the POSIX api functions?
[11:53] <fluteflute> the 1st bit talks about installing XP - you can skip that bit
[11:53] <CheeseGardener> Yes :) but I must say...
[11:53] <CheeseGardener> Ubuntu from a CD is faster than windows is on my hard drive.
[11:54] <fluteflute> same here!
[11:54] <fluteflute> windows has so much 'bulk' and programs slowing it down
[11:55] <CheeseGardener> Yes, I really am only keeping windows on my computer for the games I play.
[11:55] <CheeseGardener> I must say though, I have one more question:
[11:56] <CheeseGardener> Is it possible to take an NTFS external USB 2.0 HD, and take a 20 gb chunk to turn into FAT32 for ubuntu files?
[11:56] <fluteflute> yes
[11:56] <boris_> im getting failed to allocate mem resources on win98 but im sure it's strong enough
[11:56] <CheeseGardener> How would I go about doing this?  If  you don't mind me asking...
[11:56] <boris_> ubuntu feisty livecd from shipit
[11:56] <fluteflute> in the terminal do "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[11:57] <fluteflute> gparted is a tool that is great for partitioning
[11:57] <CheeseGardener> terminal?
[11:57] <howlingmadhowi1> bullgard4: have a look here: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/early-userspace/
[11:57] <ntbnnt> vote for more linux support by publishers
[11:57] <CheeseGardener> I've never used ubunto before so, I'm a bit confused.
[11:57] <fluteflute> apoplications menu -> accesories -> terminal
[11:57] <howlingmadhowi1> act1v8: there's also the possibility that the gnome window manager is limiting your resolution. have a look here:
[11:58] <fluteflute> its a command line interface which hopefully you shouldn't need to use too much but is much easier for some tasks
[11:58] <fluteflute> that command simply installs gparted
[11:58] <Trashynovel> say I have 2 sound cards installed, and I want ubuntu to use one instead of the other
[11:58] <CheeseGardener> I see
[11:58] <CheeseGardener> it says it is already there
[11:58] <CheeseGardener> and at the newest version.
[11:58] <fluteflute> ok good
[11:59] <fluteflute> look at your application menu and see if you can find gparted on there
[11:59] <act1v8> howlingmadhowi1: where?
[11:59] <vaineh> what exactly do K and S do in regards to the rcX.d?? i want to run a script to send an email when a machine is shutdown
[11:59] <howlingmadhowi1> act1v8: sorry, forgot the link! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400035
[12:00] <veauger> I'm having some sort of strange problem with the nvidia driver on a 6800.  First I cant get the restricted drivers manager to recognize that I need a restricted driver.  I'm pretty sure I have the driver installed (nvidia-glx-new via synaptic and then nvidia-xconfig) but when its in use I just get a black screen and cant even ctrl+backspace to kill X.  Forum posts that I've seen all seem like dead ends.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[12:00] <CheeseGardener> ok I clicked install
[12:00] <CheeseGardener> under add/remove
[12:00] <Vietnow> Can someone offer me some help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514774
[12:00] <Vietnow> I get brought the the terminal
[12:00] <howlingmadhowi1> veauger: (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:00] <veauger> yeah that one
[12:00] <Vietnow> and how no idea what to do once I get there
[12:00] <CheeseGardener> Where did it install to?
[12:01] <CheeseGardener> I see, it is in admin.
[12:01] <howlingmadhowi1> veauger: but as to your problem, i haven't a clue
[12:01] <kblin> ah. manpages-posix-dev
[12:01] <fluteflute> my fault
[12:01] <veauger> howlingmadhowi1: yeah if I change the one line from nvidia to nv it reverts back just fine, but I cannot use nvidia driver
[12:01] <ntbnnt> veauger: thats werid, my 6800 works great OFB
[12:01] <fluteflute> it is under admin as gnome partition manager
[12:02] <veauger> ntbnnt: you just installed the latest stable ubuntu and ran the restricted drivers manager?
[12:02] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:02] <ntbnnt> veauger: yup
[12:02] <CheeseGardener> I located the external
[12:02] <ubuntu_noob> Quick question
[12:02] <veauger> ntbnnt: cause the manager just flat out refuses to see that I have an nvidia card, it always says that I dont have a card that needs a restricted driver
[12:02] <ubuntu_noob> How big is compiz-fusion?
[12:02] <fluteflute> from the top right selection box?
[12:02] <ubuntu_noob> I'm not sure If I've got enough space
[12:03] <avis> ubuntu_noob, its built into gnome
[12:03] <howlingmadhowi1> Vietnow: the easy way would be to switch off 3d acceleration for now and try to configure it later. to do this type the following:
[12:03] <fluteflute> you must right click and click "unmount"
[12:03] <CheeseGardener> yes
[12:03] <ntbnnt> veauger: its happy with mine, the restricted man. came up and i activated the restricted driver, no probs
[12:03] <howlingmadhowi1> Vietnow: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:03] <ubuntu_noob> avis: I mean the desktop effects
[12:03] <ubuntu_noob> How can I enable it then?
[12:03] <veauger> ntbnnt: if you do an lspci | grep -i vga what do you get?
[12:03] <avis> ubuntu_noob, yes its built into gnome
[12:03] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:03] <CheeseGardener> it is unmounted
[12:04] <ubuntu_noob> avis: how do I enable it?
[12:04] <avis> ubuntu_noob, system-preferences-desktop effects
[12:04] <ubuntu_noob> thankyou
[12:04] <ntbnnt> i'm not at that computer, but it says my 6800 is there
[12:04] <howlingmadhowi1> Vietnow: enter your password
[12:04] <veauger> ntbnnt: I get nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0400
[12:04] <randoman> hey guys, well I think I have all the libes and files copied to the chroot dir for mysql. but when i go to chroot /chrootdir /usr/sbin/mysqld --user=msqld & it gives me Fatal error: Can't change to run as user 'mysql' ;
[12:04] <fluteflute> just a sec
[12:04] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:04] <dcordes> avis, but only with aiglx ready vga driver eh?
[12:04] <howlingmadhowi1> Vietnow: scroll down the screen to where you see a driver called "nvidia" or similar
[12:04] <randoman> and i know its there, ive looked in the passwd a million times
[12:04] <randoman> any ideas anyone?
[12:04] <pawan> hot to use kmobiletools
[12:04] <Vietnow> thanks howlingmadhowi1
[12:04] <fluteflute> http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
[12:05] <howlingmadhowi1> Vietnow: replace the name of the driver with "vesa"
[12:05] <avis> dcordes, integrated intel, ati, and nvidia support i think
[12:05] <ntbnnt> veauger: i get a specfic
[12:05] <fluteflute> right click and click resize/move
[12:05] <avis> i believe #ubuntu-effects is the right channel for that sort of thing
[12:05] <veauger> ntbnnt: great, I bet the brand I have went and changed something so its completely useless with the driver.  Unfortunately complete dealbreaker with linux if it is the nvidia driver itself and not ubuntu
[12:05] <howlingmadhowi1> Vietnow: type ctrl+o
[12:05] <fluteflute> the link explains better
[12:05] <pawan> how to enbale file access
[12:05] <mloki_> help!!
[12:05] <howlingmadhowi1> Vietnow: type ctrl+x
[12:05] <dcordes> avis, which does not apply for ati using fglrx... afaik
[12:05] <Vietnow> howlingmadhowi1 join the room #vietnow
[12:05] <ntbnnt> veauger: is it a knock-off (diamond?)
[12:06] <mloki_> I'm tring to config my sensors and I don't understand one part
[12:06] <veauger> ntbnnt: I'm not even sure let me see if I can find out
[12:06] <mloki_> can someone help me out
[12:07] <ntbnnt> veauger: fiesty should have builtin support for the nivida junk like it does for ati
[12:07] <vaineh> in rcX.d directories do K scripts get run before S scripts ???
[12:08] <ntbnnt> veauger: if its a knock-off chipset you might have to just see it they have drivers
[12:08] <randoman> anyone have any thoughts on my problem?
[12:08] <veauger> ntbnnt: its an MSI branded card
[12:09] <veauger> ntbnnt: 8600GTS
[12:09] <pawan> hi
[12:09] <ntbnnt> veauger: MSI is okay, i don't understand y you would have troble then
[12:09] <ntbnnt> veauger: MSI is usually better about such things
[12:09] <CheeseGardener> there is one thing I am comfused about
[12:10] <CheeseGardener> when I resize a drive
[12:10] <veauger> ntbnnt: asus mainboard too
[12:10] <CheeseGardener> the files on it aren't deleted
[12:10] <CheeseGardener> are they?
[12:10] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[12:10] <avis> that is correct CheeseGardener
[12:10] <SoulRaven> hy, plase help me to recompile the vlc from the sources....
[12:10] <fluteflute> they shouldn't be
[12:10] <fluteflute> as avis said
[12:10] <CheeseGardener> Ok
[12:10] <SoulRaven> because in the sinstaltion from apt-get
[12:10] <CheeseGardener> how do I merge free space
[12:10] <fluteflute> however sometimes loss does happen
[12:10] <CheeseGardener> into a drive?
[12:10] <ntbnnt> veauger: im smelling a driver bug then
[12:11] <SoulRaven> the suport for ffmepg and mp3 is not enable
[12:11] <avis> CheeseGardener, i believe gparted requires that you have free space next to the partition you wish to grow if i'm not mistaken
[12:11] <pawan> hi
[12:11] <CheeseGardener> Oh... well it lists unallocated space.
[12:11] <fluteflute> are you trying to create a new partition? or 'merge' with another?
[12:11] <pawan> how to access phone files using bluetooth
[12:12] <CheeseGardener> and I can make a new partition with that... but it needs to be above or below one to expand?
[12:12] <fluteflute> yes
[12:12] <CheeseGardener> a new one, for now.
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> guys, I am using feisty but I need a package from gutsy (live-helper), should I download and dpkg -i live-helper*deb, or rather play with /etc/apt/preferences?
[12:12] <CheeseGardener> But I want to know how to add if I need to
[12:12] <veauger> ntbnnt: apparently its just not supported
[12:12] <fluteflute> right click and click new
[12:12] <veauger> ntbnnt: nvidia havent gotten off their duffs to write the driver yet, even though the 8800 IS already supported
[12:12] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:12] <fluteflute> thats a right click on the empty space
[12:12] <avis> rysiek|pl, if it were me i'd grab the .deb
[12:13] <SoulRaven> please help me....
[12:13] <ntbnnt> veauger: try 'sudo nvida-settings' and play with that
[12:13] <veauger> ntbnnt: ok nm, there are drivers, but thy are super new
[12:13] <rysiek|pl> avis: m'kay
[12:13] <veauger> ntbnnt: maybe just need newer package
[12:13] <CheeseGardener> what is primary and extended?
[12:13] <jacobian_wrk> is there a way to install the DOM inspector for the latest firefox in ubuntu
[12:14] <CheeseGardener> and also what is round to cylanders?
[12:14] <ntbnnt> veauger: yea, just inject some of that new juice in your box
[12:14] <fluteflute> http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives_01.htm
[12:14] <mloki_> I followed the howto to the sensors detect and now I am not sure what to do next it tells me that need to and lines to /ect/modules but I don't know where to find that
[12:14] <veauger> ntbnnt: yeah in late may people were using a beta nvidia driver that was working with 8600gts
[12:15] <Lustblader> hi room
[12:15] <fluteflute> i don't know about the cylinders thing tough
[12:15] <SoulRaven> please help me to recompile the vlc from the sources....the version a have now, got from the apt-get....i not have the ffmpeg and lame suport
[12:15] <mloki_> terminal tells me command not found
[12:15] <ntbnnt> veauger: yea, i saw that - in case you didnt read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:15] <Netspirit> hello all, I'm looking for somebody who know well using lpr command with eFax on Ubuntu server 7.04
[12:16] <veauger> ntbnnt: I saw a few others, not that one in particular, thanks
[12:16] <ntbnnt> veauger: np
[12:16] <wizzo_> ok i've been trying to fix this for hours but i cant seem to get it... who wants to help? :) lol
[12:16] <Orange_Species> Hello everyone. I've got a few questions. I am debating between Ubuntu and Xubuntu. Could someone tell me why Xubuntu is inferior to Ubuntu?
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> SoulRaven: i'm not aware of any music player that has those features out of the box, yu have to install the proper codecs
[12:16] <avis> SoulRaven, if i were you i would tar xzvf the .tar.gz file assuming that is what you have and then nano the README.
[12:16] <Orange_Species> I am a total Linux n00b.
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: its not inferior.
[12:16] <SoulRaven> i have instaled the codecs
[12:16] <SoulRaven> for that
[12:17] <Orange_Species> So whats the difference? I'm confused.
[12:17] <avis> Orange_Species, i would not say its inferior.  it simply uses XFCE.  ubuntu uses the Gnome enivorment and is more commonly used in these parts
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: Xubuntu runs xfce, which is a much lighter GUI than GNome(Ubuntu)..
[12:17] <Orange_Species> Seems like the same thing almost.
[12:17] <ntbnnt> veauger: there's still a little work going on it - restricted drivers suk
[12:17] <SoulRaven> but when i tray to transcode to mp3 i got the error...
[12:17] <Orange_Species> Can Xubuntu do everything Ubuntu can?
[12:17] <Trashynovel> soumy sound doesn't work
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: generally... old, slow PC.. xubuntu.., newer PC, Ubuntu
[12:17] <Trashynovel> *sound
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: yes
[12:17] <Trashynovel> modprobe snd-emu10k1 works but I still hera nothering
[12:18] <Trashynovel> alsamixer says that everything is up on the sound
[12:18] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: all that and and more!
[12:18] <Orange_Species> Well I have a new PC. Bought it a few months ago. Why would Ubuntu be better?
[12:18] <wizzo_> whenever i try to download a file with xchat it only says "Starting" in the file transfers but never actually does can someone help me with this?
[12:18] <Trashynovel> I think it might be a problem with my two sound cards
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: this is addressed on Xubuntu's site.
[12:18] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: it'll make your coffee
[12:18] <CheeseGardener> um....
[12:18] <Netspirit> So anyone can help me on a eFax problem with Ubuntu feisty
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: if you have a new PC, use whichever one you want
[12:18] <CheeseGardener> so extended ones can be further divided easily
[12:19] <CheeseGardener> into almost "areas"
[12:19] <CheeseGardener> called logical drives
[12:19] <CheeseGardener> while a primary is a whole new drive with it's own boot?
[12:19] <CheeseGardener> its*
[12:19] <NETWizz> I built a list of all packages I have installed
[12:19] <NETWizz> took forever
[12:19] <pawan> hi
[12:19] <NETWizz> I picked out each I installed
[12:19] <veauger> ntbnnt: yeah I stopped using linux right before ubuntu came into existence -- its lightyears ahead from wehre it was then
[12:19] <Orange_Species> Ok.  Which one would you say is best for a n00b to Linux?
[12:19] <NETWizz> That should allow me to do a clean install of Ubuntu
[12:19] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: Ubuntu
[12:19] <NETWizz> night
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: they are essentially the same, use whichever one you want.
[12:20] <pawan> any software to transfer file from mobile phone to pc using bluetooth
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: what works on one, works on the other.
[12:20] <Orange_Species> Alright. Why do you say that, ntbnnt?
[12:20] <fluteflute> yeah
[12:20] <CheeseGardener> so I understand it right?
[12:20] <veauger> Orange_Species: I also say that, if that helps :P
[12:20] <fluteflute> tou don't need a 'boot' drive so an extended one will be fine
[12:20] <CheeseGardener> an extended one for my external?
[12:20] <fluteflute> yeah
[12:21] <CheeseGardener> and also, unlike primaries, I can add to an extended?
[12:21] <avis> Orange_Species, if you have ubuntu installed and you want to try out xubuntu or kubuntu you can simply do a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <veauger> Orange_Species: its built with you in mind, there is a large community behind it to update it and support it.  That is all
[12:21] <fluteflute> yep
[12:21] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: really, its up to you, for the hell of it try kubuntu too, but Ubuntu is probably most easily accessible because of its simple interface
[12:21] <CheeseGardener> Ok
[12:21] <CheeseGardener> I will do that.
[12:21] <wizzo_> whenever i try to download a file with xchat it only says "Starting" in the file transfers but never actually does can someone help me with this?
[12:21] <CheeseGardener> What is a good linux format?
[12:21] <Orange_Species> Haha. Does Linux need a virus scanner & firewall?
[12:21] <CheeseGardener> to put the extended in?
[12:21] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: check screenshots
[12:21] <CheeseGardener> and if I delete a primary, can I add it back to the original primary?
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: these are all things you can find with a very brief google search.
[12:22] <avis> CheeseGardener, i'm just your average linux user and i use ext3 partition type
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> !google | Orange_Species
[12:22] <ubotu> Orange_Species: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[12:22] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: of KDE, Gnome, and Xubuntu
[12:22] <kiz_> Guys, how can i update fiesty -> gusty (unstable) ?
[12:22] <Orange_Species> nybnnt: I've actually downloaded them all. And have them all on seperate disks. Im running my own live disk atm. Just trying to figure out which one I like. Im so confused.
[12:22] <Orange_Species> KDE, GNOME... whats the difference?
[12:22] <CheeseGardener> Like, if I have my external, and make a new primary, will it delete my current primary?  or just cut a piece off?  and also, can I delete a primary and add it to another primary?
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: are you a troll?
[12:23] <wizzo_> roflmfao
[12:23] <Orange_Species> No.
[12:23] <Orange_Species> I take offense to that.  Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:23] <giandrea> hello
[12:23] <wietz0r> IndyGunFreak: calling someone dense is pretty trollish
[12:23] <wizzo_> well put IndyGunFreak
[12:24] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: just go with gnome unless you absolutely LOVE widgets and such
[12:24] <pawan> !hello
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> wietz0r: not minding your own buisness, is very trollish
[12:24] <kiz_> Guys , help me plz =) How can i update Ubuntu 7.04 -> Kubuntu 7.10 (unstable) ?
[12:24] <Orange_Species> Well I'm sorry Im putting you out, IndyGunFreak. I am a Windows user and want to learn Linux. I've only started playing with them today.
[12:24] <wietz0r> ntbnnt: Just learn raw CLI
[12:24] <Orange_Species> No I'm not a troll.
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: only way you learn, is to read
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: every single question you've asked, is answered on each page's download site
[12:24] <Orange_Species> And ask questions. I ask a lot of questions.
[12:24] <wietz0r> Orange_Species: Only way to learn, is to do
[12:24] <ntbnnt> wietz0r: word
[12:24] <veauger> Orange_Species:  Just use Ubuntu.  If you know nothing of linux thats where you want to start.  Just do it and start playing with it
[12:24] <fluteflute> sorry cheesegardener I have to leave now
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: but there's no reason to flood a support channel, with questions like this, when all the info is on the sites you downloaded the iso's from
[12:25] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know if you can add a primary partition to another primary?
[12:25] <wizzo_> Orange_Species, i've been a windows user forever, been on ubuntu for like a week and a half and i love it... just try it out and learn it by trial and error
[12:25] <howlingmadhowi1> IndyGunFreak: well maybe he prefers having conversations to learn something than reading. i know i do
[12:25] <dns_56> kiz_: not recomended yet, but you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace feisty with gutsy then apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:25] <Jokk> i have broken package how to fix it ?
[12:25] <CheeseGardener> when you turn one primary into free space?
[12:25] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: we really don't care how long u used windows, eat a screenshot
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> howlingmadhowi1: maybe, but the channel topic is fairly clear.. SUPPORT
[12:25] <kiz_> dns_56: thx .
[12:25] <Jokk> i have broken package how to fix it ?
[12:25] <monfis> #ubuntu.pl
[12:26] <wietz0r> IndyGunFreak: answering questions == suppport
[12:26] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: ppl have used windows since greed was conceived
[12:26] <howlingmadhowi1> IndyGunFreak: yeah, you're right there. and the speed the screen sometimes scrolls by is pretty ridiculous anyway
[12:26] <Orange_Species> Ok well I'll go ahead and exit this live disk and install Ubuntu.
[12:26] <avis> yeah an aspiring ubuntu user is definitely worthy of support
[12:26] <Jokk> i have broken package how to fix it ?
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> wietz0r: answering install questions, yes, answering general questions about the OS< are is on the webpage
[12:26] <ntbnnt> Orange_Species: and when we needed fresh air!
[12:26] <noIse> how to make alias automatigally save stuff?
[12:26] <wietz0r> noIse: alias as in aliases in bash ?
[12:26] <noIse> wietz0r yes
[12:27] <wietz0r> noIse: add them to .bashrc
[12:27] <CheeseGardener> can anyone help me with hard drive formatting questions??
[12:27] <noIse> i want them to automatigally save when i make them
[12:27] <noIse> no i dont always have time to add them there
[12:27] <Jokk> i have broken package how to fix it ?
[12:27] <wietz0r> noIse: You can just echo them in there
[12:27] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: y dont you just shoot
[12:27] <wietz0r> noIse: man echo
[12:27] <noIse> i know i can do that
[12:27] <ntbnnt> a man echo!
[12:27] <CheeseGardener> can I delete a primary, and add it to another primary?
[12:27] <noIse> its still a pain in the butt
[12:27] <noIse> i wanna be just able to use the alias command and they save
[12:27] <ntbnnt> uh, you can have 2 primaries
[12:28] <CheeseGardener> Yes but
[12:28] <CheeseGardener> if I have 2, and I want to merge two
[12:28] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: seperate
[12:28] <wizzo_> if someone can help me it would be great, whenever i try to download a file with xchat it only says "Starting" in the file transfers but never actually does can someone help me with this?
[12:28] <CheeseGardener> Wouldn't I delete one, and then there would be "extra" space to add to the other?
[12:28] <wietz0r> wizzo_: Have you forwarded the ports ?
[12:28] <veauger> ntbnnt: I just ran the program "Envy" that's supposed to install the latest driver.  Cross your fingers
[12:28] <CheeseGardener> Such as more space on the slider bar?
[12:28] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: nope, not as far as i know - theres probably some tool out there that tries but it will likely corrupt all your goodies
[12:29] <Trashynovel> can anyone help me with my misbehaving sound system?
[12:29] <nalpha> guys, there is a spesific channel talk about samba?
[12:29] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: u dualbooting
[12:29] <CheeseGardener> oh so primaries are permanent?
[12:29] <wizzo_> some people say to forward other say not too... i would but i cant figure out which ports xchat uses
[12:29] <wietz0r> nalpha: #samba
[12:29] <CheeseGardener> Yes, I want to make a new primary
[12:29] <wietz0r> wizzo_: Hold on
[12:29] <CheeseGardener> from a primary.
[12:29] <CheeseGardener> Is that possible?
[12:29] <ntbnnt> veauger: we'll see!
[12:29] <Orange_Species> avis I tried replying to your PM. Guess it doesn't work since Im on a live disk
[12:29] <avis> CheeseGardener, indeed it is if you know how to make the primary smalles
[12:30] <veauger> wizzo: you dont need port forwarding if the connection opens the port on its way OUT
[12:30] <Jokk> i have broken package how to fix it ?
[12:30] <avis> sorry orange its because i'm registered.  i'll sign out as someone else and give you a hand
[12:30] <CheeseGardener> Well I would only need 20 gigs
[12:30] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: primaries are permanent, sure, in a sense, but if you have primary partition you cannot "merge" it
[12:30] <veauger> wizzo: but if something on the outside wants in on a port aht hasnt already been used from the inside to get out, you need to forward it
[12:30] <CheeseGardener> but once I do it I cannot go back, right?
[12:30] <ntbnnt> you can however relocate data
[12:30] <CheeseGardener> unles I erase them both?
[12:30] <CheeseGardener> Otherwise I might lose both primaries?
[12:30] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: okay think like this
[12:31] <CheeseGardener> if I merge them?
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: you can't answer a PM cuz your nick isn't registered
[12:31] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: C: and D: are both drives
[12:31] <veauger> ntbnnt: it worked with ZERO intervention from me.  Totally awesome
[12:31] <ntbnnt> veauger: fricking sweet!
[12:31] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: you can move data between the drives correct
[12:31] <CheeseGardener> Yes
[12:32] <alexnick> sup guys? my package installers are a little messed up.
[12:32] <CheeseGardener> I believe I would
[12:32] <wizzo_> veauger: thats what i'm talking about, i'm not trying to send a file i'm trying to receive one
[12:32] <CheeseGardener> I just heard that linux doesn't write to NTFS well
[12:32] <CheeseGardener> as well as FAT32
[12:32] <alexnick> I get this message when I open Synaptic 'E: Type 'deb' is not known on line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <alexnick> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[12:32] <alexnick> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[12:32] <alexnick> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:32] <alexnick> '
[12:32] <Orange_Species> Ah I see Indy. Ok no worries. I don't want to register here yet. Not until I do a full install of the Linux distro. I do have an actually INSTALLATION question though.
[12:32] <wietz0r> CheeseGardener: It does, ntfs-3g is win
[12:32] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: dude, don't USE NTFS for your primary
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> alexnick: have you made changes to your sources list?
[12:32] <CheeseGardener> I'm not.
[12:32] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: omg
[12:32] <avis> Orange_Species, it seems private messages are blocked completely from unregistered users so if you would like help please register
[12:32] <CheeseGardener> That's for windows
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> I want to make a new primary, from the NTFS one
[12:33] <Orange_Species> I have WindowsXP-MCE-SP2 installed. When I install a linux distro, will it override it and will I lose everything?
[12:33] <wietz0r> ntbnnt: Do you type the names instead of tab completing them ?
[12:33] <alexnick> I may have. I was following a guide on how to install a psx emulator but didn't follow through with it. Could that be it?
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> I want to take a piece off of it
[12:33] <Orange_Species> @ Avis: It's ok. I'll register once I get it installed.
[12:33] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: okay, you can transfer data between the two but only when you get into linux
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> and make a part a FAT32 primary
[12:33] <Orange_Species> thanks for trying Avis. =)
[12:33] <Qodosh> Do people in here work for Ubuntu?
[12:33] <veauger> Orange_Species: The answer is you almost certainly wont lose anything
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> or one that is good for linux to boot from
[12:33] <Trashynovel> will no-one help me with my disobedient sound system?
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> Orange_Species: the installer has a disk partitioner, you'lll need to set a partition of your disk for Linux(usually at least 10gigs).., that should leave windows untouched if done properly, but backup your data.
[12:34] <ntbnnt> wietz0r: i dunno - i type a lot - more than i want to - im also on blacknberry
[12:34] <Trashynovel> I've tried everything the ubuntu manual thing says
[12:34] <veauger> Orange_Species: yeah I second the backup your data
[12:34] <Trashynovel> and there's not alsaconf to fix it
[12:34] <Orange_Species> Ok I'll do that. thanks. =)
[12:34] <nekt> Anyone know why when using the latest git kernel source there is no config.686 in debian/config?
[12:34] <wietz0r> ntbnnt: aah that explains things
[12:34] <CheeseGardener> Once I take a 10 gig piece from my 100 gig hard drive for linux
[12:34] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: backup your data and play around with it
[12:34] <CheeseGardener> what format should I use?
[12:34] <tupa> Qodosh, there are some developers here, why do you ask?
[12:34] <CheeseGardener> for the new primary?
[12:34] <veauger> Orange_Species its like going skydiving without a backup chute -- you wont need it 99.9999% of the time, but when you do need it you're damn glad u have it
[12:34] <ntbnnt> wietz0r: yea, whatever my blackberry tells me to do :P
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> alexnick: have you made recent changes to your source list?
[12:34] <avis> CheeseGardener, i recommend ext3 for / and /home.
[12:35] <ntbnnt> ChesseGardener: seccond avis
[12:35] <Qodosh> tupa: sheer curiosity
[12:35] <Qodosh> tupa: Ty for the reply though.
[12:35] <CheeseGardener> Ok what about my external hard drive
[12:35] <gerro> CheeseGardener: remove system restore and delete temp folder as well as all the cookies and other junk
[12:35] <CheeseGardener> I am gonna cut a piece off for linux
[12:35] <dns_56> the .config is in the /boot dir
[12:35] <alexnick> Probably. I was trying to install a playstation emulator. How do I fix it?
[12:35] <tupa> Qodosh, if you ask cuz of the support, most of the people answer voluntarily
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> alexnick: that shouldn't have screwed up your sources list.
[12:36] <CheeseGardener> ext3 as well for the external hard drive?
[12:36] <alexnick> Is there an easy fix for this problem?
[12:36] <gerro> alexnick: hmm I used apt-get install pcsx and it works ok :)
[12:36] <ntbnnt> how can you screw up a sources.list
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> alexnick: maybe... type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[12:36] <nekt> Trying to compile a patched kernel, works fine except smp is not enabled as 386 is being used, 686 config is not either being created or downloaded with git, seeing with with both gutsy and feisty git pulls
[12:36] <Qodosh> tupa: I actually asked because I saw some job ads for ubuntu and it got me to wondering if people in this channel worked for ubuntu and were as part of the job.
[12:36] <avis> CheeseGardener, yes you'd need like a swap partition, about twice your memory.  and ext3 for / and /home.
[12:37] <Jokk> dpkg --configure
[12:37] <Jokk> i have broken dependencies how to fix them
[12:37] <Jokk> ?
[12:37] <CheeseGardener> Ok let me start with my external hard drive first.  I want a piece for linux files
[12:37] <tupa> Qodosh, what's the link?
[12:37] <CheeseGardener> It is currently NTFS
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> !paste
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:37] <ntbnnt> jokki: be more specfic, o
[12:38] <Jokk> noob :(
[12:38] <CheeseGardener>  I want to make 20 gigs into a format that is easy for linux to write to.
[12:38] <Jokk> when i try to install something it writes me
[12:38] <Qodosh> tupa: http://www.ubuntu.com/employment
[12:38] <CheeseGardener> What format should I use?  Can I make it an extended?  can the extended logical drives have their own format?
[12:38] <Jokk> "broken packages"
[12:38] <ntbnnt> jokk: a letter?
[12:38] <Jokk> ntbnnt
[12:38] <ntbnnt> oh
[12:38] <dns_56> nekt: get a kernel config file from /boot and put it in your src /.config then make oldconfig to get the different config options since the kernel was updated
[12:38] <avis> CheeseGardener, just make some room.  2GB for swap i'd say 8GB for / and the rest on /home
[12:39] <Jokk> ntbnnt what "oh" ?
[12:39] <ntbnnt> jokk: are you using synaptic or apt
[12:39] <Jokk> synaptic
[12:39] <CheeseGardener> and swap is just something that both windows and linux can read?
[12:39] <avis> CheeseGardener, just make swap swap, ext3 for / and /home.  its as simple as that
[12:39] <CheeseGardener> so I can log into windows and pull it onto the rest of the hard drive?
[12:40] <Jokk> ntbnnt what to do ?
[12:40] <ntbnnt> jokk: the best thing i can tell you is to right click your package and select install recommended
[12:40] <avis> CheeseGardener, absolutely not.  fat16 is.  known as vfat in the linux world.  you can also read/write to ntfs using the ntfs-3g and ntfs-config package.
[12:40] <tupa> Qodosh, no wages are posted in the site :(
[12:40] <nekt> dns_56:  this is without using autobuild?
[12:40] <ntbnnt> jokk: can you use apt?
[12:40] <Qodosh> tupa: I know disappointing aye?
[12:41] <Jokk> not at all
[12:41] <CheeseGardener> Oh?  where can I get these packages?
[12:41] <Qodosh> tupa: Though I just want a Jr. Sys admin job.
[12:41] <CheeseGardener> and they allow ubuntu to write to NFTS?
[12:41] <CheeseGardener> NTFS*
[12:41] <Jokk> ntbnnt how to find out whats broken ?
[12:41] <tupa> Qodosh, well at least you get paid, if I was a debian developer (ubuntu's "parent") I would be very pissed if someone uses my packages and gets paid
[12:42] <ntbnnt> jokk: read the man page for apt
[12:42] <Jokk> link pls
[12:42] <avis> CheeseGardener, indeed.  its as simple as installing ubuntu.  then you'd log into a terminal and do sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config but you need to learn the stuff first.. its pretty elementary.  just install and open up firefox and read awhile.  firefox startup page has alot of information for people new to ubuntu/linux.
[12:42] <dns_56> nekt: when i tried compileing the source i started with a tar, copied the .config as a starting point then used make-kpkg to create a debian package
[12:42] <ntbnnt> jokk: apt can attempt to fix your dependacies
[12:42] <tupa> Qodosh, there has been some debate over that, Debian wanted to pay developers through Dunk Tank, but it was not a sure thing
[12:43] <Jokk> how?
[12:43] <CheeseGardener> can I install from add/remove?
[12:43] <nekt> dns_56 ahh yeah, i think thats the linux-sources  way but not the git method, not exacltly sure but the docs on the git method say a config.686 should be present, but its not =/
[12:43] <avis> CheeseGardener, you should read alot.  most of these questions people will want you to learn on your own.  but if your taking notes sudo apt-get remove <package>
[12:43] <nekt> and the 386 version works fine, but it auto disables smp
[12:44] <nekt> anyone compiled from the git sources before?
[12:44] <CheeseGardener> ok so it is always sudo apt-get
[12:44] <CheeseGardener> for anything
[12:44] <ntbnnt> jokk: run "sudo apt-get install -f 'your package of choics'
[12:44] <CheeseGardener> and then what I want to do:
[12:45] <CheeseGardener> like remove or install
[12:45] <CheeseGardener> and what I want to remove or install
[12:45] <avis> CheeseGardener, thats only a good starting point.
[12:45] <ntbnnt> CheeseGardner: read "man apt-get"
[12:45] <dns_56> nekt: ubuntu has the config in /boot ie /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic so copy that to your source directory, then run make old-config which will ask you about modules that have changed since the specified config file
[12:46] <dns_56> nekt: after that use make-kpkg and fakeroot to build the .deb
[12:46] <wizzo_> i'm trying to download files using xchat, the files dont get past where it says "Starting" i guess something is blocked can someone help me for more than a duration of 15 seconds?
[12:46] <nekt> thats from a linux-source version right, not a git repo? or you mean that too
[12:46] <act1v8> !radeon
[12:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:46] <ntbnnt> everyone here needs a big bowl of l33tiees
[12:46] <act1v8> !ati
[12:46] <wizzo_> lmao agreed
[12:47] <ntbnnt> lmao
[12:47] <avis> wizzo, chances are you are behind a router and need to forward a port range
[12:47] <wizzo_> ok i figured that one out kinda... but how can i forward a port that i have no idea which port is being used?!
[12:47] <ntbnnt> O.o
[12:47] <ntbnnt> DMZ!
[12:47] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: there's also the graphical front-end for apt-get in system->administration->synaptic package manager
[12:48] <avis> wizzo, thats a networking question not really specific to ubuntu but if you want to msg me i'll help out
[12:48] <wizzo_> freakin awsome, you just made me so happy lol
[12:48] <dns_56> nekt: make-kpkg is a wrapper around the normal linux build scripts it runs i think it runs make all and captures the output, it does not care about the source layout that much
[12:48] <CheeseGardener> ok I understand apt-get but sudo means what?
[12:48] <melgibbsem> lo there
[12:48] <ntbnnt> su stands for super user
[12:48] <avis> wizzo, i believe you have to be registered to send private messages on freenode
[12:48] <ntbnnt> it is god of computers, the root
[12:49] <rene> hi
[12:49] <nomad111> does anyone here use a logitech vx revolution mouse?
[12:49] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: linux distributions impose strict roles on to the users as to who can do what, even in a single user system. if you are changing something which would have an effect on another user, you have to do that as the superuser
[12:49] <melgibbsem> can anyone tell me how to sove xwindow configuration?
[12:49] <ntbnnt> if you "su" "do" then you do as god, or "root"
[12:49] <melgibbsem> (save)
[12:49] <wizzo> oh man..
[12:49] <rene> how do i use ubuntu's recovery mode? since ubuntu does not have a root password, what do i type at the prompt "give root password or type ctrl+d"?
[12:49] <howlingmadhowi1> moldy: give the password of your primary user
[12:50] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: hmm that did not work
[12:50] <avis> moldy, sudo
[12:50] <veauger> Thanks all
[12:50] <moldy> avis: ?
[12:50] <ntbnnt> rene: root pass should be user pass
[12:50] <avis> sudo <what you are trying to do>
[12:50] <moldy> avis: "sudo what"?
[12:50] <howlingmadhowi1> moldy: does your primary user have sudo privileges?
[12:50] <moldy> avis: that is not possible
[12:50] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: yes
[12:50] <vaineh> any ideas how i could get an email script to be run before postfix etc is killed during a shutdown ??
[12:50] <avis> i've never used recovery mode
[12:50] <moldy> avis: i am talking about the recovery mode. there is no shell to type "sudo" into.
[12:50] <CheeseGardener> Ok I am reading about "dual boot" and it says I need two drives.  1) A swap drive. and 2) A boot drive for ubuntu.
[12:51] <nekt> im finding these multiple methods of ubuntu kernel customization a nightmare,  MUCH more difficult then just the standard kernel compiling
[12:51] <CheeseGardener> Should both these drives be primaries?
[12:51] <DreamThief> has anyone inhere successfully managed to install and boot ubuntu on a compaq proliant 5500 from 1999?
[12:51] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: i messed up by nsswitch.conf, that is why i need the recovery mode -- maybe the same problem is locking me out of the recovery mode, too?
[12:51] <avis> CheeseGardener, i'd make / primary and /home logical
[12:51] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: "my nsswitch.conf"
[12:51] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: it probably says you need at least two partitions for linux and windows will also need a partition.
[12:51] <ntbnnt> CheeseGardener: every "hard drive" needs a primary - i second avis
[12:51] <hkBst>  is it possible to install say xubuntu from the ubuntu server cd?
[12:51] <guitarmaniac> @dreamtheif no. what going wrong?
[12:52] <avis> DreamThief, i put xubuntu on a ancient compaq a couple days ago
[12:52] <moldy> i guess i will have to start looking for a live-cd :-/
[12:52] <nekt> dns_56: thanks for the advice, im gonna try to go back to a more standard method
[12:52] <DreamThief> woohoo
[12:52] <howlingmadhowi1> moldy: i'm afraid i don't know anythng about nsswitch.conf
[12:52] <ntbnnt> CheeseGardener: or you could just go with the guided partitioning since you do not seem to be cut out for boxes
[12:52] <CheeseGardener> /home is my swap?
[12:52] <dns_56> nekt: np, the only difference if you use make-kpkg is you get a deb that you move around and you can uninstall it from apt
[12:52] <Frogzoo> howlingmadhowi1: install, then add xfce - same thing
[12:53] <DreamThief> avis: did you need the smart start cd?
[12:53] <ntbnnt> CheeseGardener: swap is swap
[12:53] <Frogzoo> hkBst: install, then add xfce - same thing
[12:53] <Frogzoo> howlingmadhowi1: soz, tab malfunct
[12:53] <CheeseGardener> ok.  should swap be a primary?
[12:53] <moldy> f*ck... the machine has no cd-rom. argh.
[12:53] <ntbnnt> CheeseGardener: uh, thats irrevent
[12:53] <Frogzoo> CheeseGardener: no difference, best if it's on the outside though - like first partition
[12:53] <avis> DreamThief, you can simply install from the xubuntu cd.  i had to use the alternative cd since the video support from the live cd left me with a tiny screen
[12:53] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: nope. the swap partition is a part of the hard drive which linux uses as if it were ram. basically. you create it and then forget about it
[12:53] <avis> DreamThief, assuming you want xubuntu
[12:54] <hkBst> Frogzoo: I had some trouble doing this yesterday. I isntalled server cd, then gnome, failed on missing X, so I installed xorg. But it fails to load X and all I get is a black screen.
[12:54] <ntbnnt> CheeseGardener: okay, theirs primary and primary is devided into many locical drives
[12:54] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: it doesn't really matter if it is extended or primary. just to make things easier for you, i'd recommend you make everything primary. but remember that hard drives are limited to 4(5?) primary partitions
[12:54] <avis> CheeseGardener, swap is swap and ext3 for / and /home works great.  also keep in mind if your allocating gigs that 2000MB = 2 gigs for example
[12:55] <Frogzoo> hkBst: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:55] <CheeseGardener> How much space should I use for swap?  how much for / and how much for /home?
[12:55] <melgibbsem> can anyone tell me how to save xwindow configuration?
[12:55] <hkBst> btw, how does one search the package database from command line?
[12:55] <moldy> CheeseGardener: how much RAM do you have?
[12:55] <CheeseGardener> 1 gig
[12:55] <avis> CheeseGardener, you'll hear a million different answers but about double your ram i think is good
[12:55] <moldy> hkBst: apt-cache search <searchterm>
[12:55] <CheeseGardener> but:
[12:55] <CheeseGardener> Not 100% one gig
[12:55] <avis> so cheese i'd make that 2000 if i were you as in 2000 MB
[12:55] <CheeseGardener> I have onboard video
[12:56] <Frogzoo> CheeseGardener: 1gig swap, 15gig /, rest /home
[12:56] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: i'd put anything up to double your ram size in swap and the rest as one partition for / and /home and everything else
[12:56] <moldy> CheeseGardener: with 1gig, 1gig of swap should be enough. the right size for /home depends entirely on your needs
[12:56] <CheeseGardener> Ok... I can spare 2 gigs for swap
[12:56] <moldy> CheeseGardener: /home holds all your "user data", so the bigger the better
[12:56] <CheeseGardener> but I only have 30 gigs max to work withow
[12:56] <CheeseGardener> more like 20
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> ive never really understood the whole separate partition for /home...
[12:57] <howlingmadhowi1> moldy: that is, unless you're used to using different partitions, then i'd recommend putting /home and / on different partitions.
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> it annoys me mre than anything
[12:57] <Frogzoo> CheeseGardener: stick with 1gig for swap
[12:57] <CheeseGardener> So 2 for swap, how much for /?
[12:57] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:57] <CheeseGardener> you sure that will be ok then?  1 gig for swap?
[12:57] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: yes, but then /home should usualy still get all that is not needed by /
[12:57] <howlingmadhowi1> IndyGunFreak: i use it but only because i like trying out different distributions and i don't have a second hard drive
[12:57] <moldy> CheeseGardener: yes
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: what are your system specs?
[12:57] <moldy> CheeseGardener: my desktop system with 1g ram hardly uses any swap at all
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> howlingmadhowi1: i guess in that sense, it makes sense
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> I have a 100 gig HD
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> 60 used for windows
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: i mean memory/processor
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> so, I want to put 20 into linux
[12:58] <moldy> i found out the password i need to enter at the recovery prompt
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> 1.6 ghz centrino
[12:58] <moldy> but i wonder where that is stored
[12:58] <howlingmadhowi1> moldy: oh, which one was it?
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> 1 gig memory DDR212
[12:58] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: i am not sure :)
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: just make a 1.5gig swap, and don't worry about it.. your pc is fast enough, you'll likely never use swap.
[12:58] <DreamThief> moldy: did you enable the root password?
[12:58] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: were are using certain passwords as default admin passwords here... it was not any of the current ones
[12:59] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: but one we had used before
[12:59] <howlingmadhowi1> moldy: i know of no way under ubuntu to see the passwords in plain text. you can see the hash-sum in /etc/shadow of course
[12:59] <dns_56> my suggestions is 2 * ram for swap, about 10g for / and perhaps the rest for home, if you install it on top of lvm you can resize the partitions (but you need some knowledge)
[12:59] <CheeseGardener> ok.  1.5 for swap.  What should I do with the remaining 18.5 gigs?
[12:59] <moldy> DreamThief: i am not sure, i don't remember doing it, but i might have done it and forgot
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: set it for /
[12:59] <Frogzoo> CheeseGardener: 1gig swap, 10gig /, rest /home
[12:59] <moldy> howlingmadhowi1: i am just wondering which user's password that was now...
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> Frogzoo: i'm not really sure thats a good way for a noob, but to each his own
[12:59] <CheeseGardener> ok....
[01:00] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: you have the choice between using two partitions or just throwing the rest into one partition. i don't think it really makes much difference in your case
[01:00] <Frogzoo> IndyGunFreak: I really think default install even for noobs should have a separate /home
[01:00] <Jokk> when i try to open synaptic
[01:00] <Jokk> it writes me back
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> Frogzoo: i guess we just disagre..lol
[01:00] <DreamThief> Frogzoo: +1
[01:00] <moldy> it seems i had enabled the root password
[01:00] <Frogzoo> IndyGunFreak: ok :)
[01:00] <Jokk> some kind of error
[01:00] <moldy> there is a password for root entered in /etc/shadow
[01:00] <howlingmadhowi1> moldy: a-ha, that was it :)
[01:01] <CheeseGardener> ok so for now:
[01:01] <moldy> or maybe it was my co-admin :)
[01:01] <CheeseGardener> I have to unallocate 20 gigs?
[01:01] <CheeseGardener> correct?
[01:01] <riaal_> Hi all, I have a hostname for a computer on my network, how do I check its ip? (done it a long time ago)?
[01:01] <CheeseGardener> from my 100 gig?
[01:01] <moldy> riaal_: "host <hostname>"
[01:01] <howlingmadhowi1> riaal_: try pinging it
[01:02] <moldy> riaal_: not sure if host is pre-installed
[01:02] <riaal_> moldy, and if I have the ip?
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> you should just be able to allocate 20gigs for your linux install, but i don't mess with partitioning, so i'm not sure.
[01:02] <moldy> riaal_: you mean you have the ip and want to know the hostname?
[01:02] <CheeseGardener> well I already have a hard drive with windows on it
[01:02] <avis> this isn't a very ubuntu question though can anyone lend a hand restoring my xchat functions ?  they seem to have disappeared.  no options nothing i just get a window border, network/channels, and userlist to my right
[01:02] <CheeseGardener> I'm trying to dual boot
[01:02] <riaal_> moldy, yeh
[01:02] <dns_56> riaal_: your own ip? run ifconfig another computer check on the arp table on your router
[01:02] <moldy> riaal_: the same: host ip-adresse
[01:02] <Jokk> dpkg was interrupted u must manually run dpkg --configure - a to correct the problem
[01:03] <moldy> riaal_: that will look it up in the dns
[01:03] <riaal_> moldy, thanks a lot
[01:03] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: because you already have a windows installation, you really have to defragment that first, so there's a large amount of contiguous free space
[01:03] <Jokk> dpkg was interrupted u must manually run dpkg --configure - a to correct the problem
[01:03] <moldy> riaal_: to get the ip of the local machine if dns is not working, use ifconfig
[01:03] <Jokk> what does it mean
[01:03] <moldy> riaal_: if "host" is not installed you need to install a package called dns-utils or something similiar
[01:04] <riaal_> moldy, it was, worked perfect, thanks
[01:04] <CheeseGardener> already did that howling
[01:04] <howlingmadhowi1> jokk: looks like synaptic crashed or was shut down before it could finish working. just run the command "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in a terminal
[01:04] <CheeseGardener> I defraged before I came here
[01:04] <CheeseGardener> through windows
[01:04] <Jokk> Setting up xorg (7.2-0ubuntu11) ...
[01:04] <Jokk> Setting up linux-image-2.6.20-16-386 (2.6.20-16.29) ...
[01:04] <Jokk> Running depmod.
[01:04] <Jokk> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-386
[01:04] <Jokk> cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules': No such file or directory
[01:04] <Jokk> W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[01:04] <Jokk> W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
[01:04] <moldy> riaal_: np
[01:04] <Jokk> W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.
[01:04] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: cool :)
[01:04] <Jokk> W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: run the installer, and when it comes to partition, set the installer to give you 20gigs for Linux
[01:04] <Jokk> it writes me that
[01:04] <Jokk> howlingmadhowil
[01:04] <dns_56> Jokk: dpkg the package manager below apt which deals with .deb a zip file with scripts has been interupted, it does not know what is installed and what is not
[01:04] <CheeseGardener> ok just click "new" partition?
[01:05] <Jokk> dns_56 how to fix it
[01:05] <CheeseGardener> will it erase the windows one?
[01:05] <riaal_> How do I list all open network connections from the terminal?
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: i don't use the live cd, but if i recall, it will have like a "slider", just move it to where you're comfortable(where you'll have 20gigs or so).., and click next
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: no.. it will resize the windows partition, and add the linux partition(ext3, i do believe)
[01:05] <dns_56> Jokk: the reconfigure tries to reinstall that package so it knows what is installed. it says run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:05] <moldy> is changing the admin group's numeric going to cause major trouble?
[01:05] <bliss> hi
[01:06] <moldy> "numeric id"
[01:06] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:06] <Jokk> dns_56
[01:06] <CheeseGardener> I need to make a swap though right?
[01:06] <Jokk> when i wrote it
[01:06] <Jokk> look..
[01:06] <CheeseGardener> myself?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: i don't think so.
[01:06] <Jokk> dpkg: error processing a (--configure):
[01:06] <Jokk>  no package named `a' is installed, cannot configure
[01:06] <Jokk> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:06] <Jokk>  a
[01:06] <Jokk> joker@joker-:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:06] <Jokk> Setting up xorg (7.2-0ubuntu11) ...
[01:06] <Jokk> Setting up linux-image-2.6.20-16-386 (2.6.20-16.29) ...
[01:06] <Jokk> Running depmod.
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: again, *i think*, when you size the linux partition for 20gigs, it will automatically set a swap.
[01:06] <Jokk> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-386
[01:06] <Jokk> cp: cannot stat `/etc/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules': No such file or directory
[01:06] <Jokk> W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[01:06] <cromag> !paste
[01:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:06] <Jokk> W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
[01:06] <Jokk> W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.
[01:06] <Jokk> W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
[01:06] <IdleOne> !ops
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[01:06] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: ?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: you'll be able to look at your partitions before making any partitions, so don't worry about it.
[01:07] <msingh> Anyone manage to get onto a wireless network with WEP2?
[01:07] <dns_56> in the future please use pastebin to cut down spam
[01:07] <bliss> i have sound drivers installed (ALSA) but the audio is not enabled in config file how to enable?
[01:07] <howlingmadhowi1> !enter | jock
[01:07] <ubotu> jock: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:07] <agreS--oR> hey
[01:07] <riaal_> How can I list all open network connections from the terminal?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> howlingmadhowi1: lol, he wasn't using enter, he was using paste..lol
[01:07] <CheeseGardener> I have a problem:
[01:07] <howlingmadhowi1> IndyGunFreak: oh, okay :)
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: ?
[01:07] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, nm
[01:07] <gnomefreak> k
[01:07] <CheeseGardener> It says it will let me resize the external
[01:08] <CheeseGardener> but I must, if I used guided
[01:08] <CheeseGardener> use the entire disk
[01:08] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: i'd also very much recommend you back up all important files in windows before partitioning your harddrive, just in case something goes wrong
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: first, yes, make sure you have a backup.
[01:08] <riaal_> There is supose to be a command to list all open network connections? I have just forgot what it was, anyone?
[01:08] <agreS--oR> how can install game in ubuntu
[01:08] <agreS--oR> i am new user
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> second, just disconnect the external and then install
[01:08] <CheeseGardener> all my programs are on my external
[01:08] <agreS--oR> and don't have a clue
[01:08] <CheshireViking> agreS--oR, which game are you trying to install?
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener:  well, most of them aren't going to work under linux anyways.
[01:09] <JokeR-> sorry fot the paste
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> so its irrelevant..
[01:09] <JokeR-> im new
[01:09] <agreS--oR> free colonisation
[01:09] <howlingmadhowi1> riaal_: have a look at netstat
[01:09] <agreS--oR> *colonization
[01:09] <IdleOne> !pastebin | JokeR-
[01:09] <ubotu> JokeR-: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:09] <JokeR-> yep i got it
[01:09] <IdleOne> :)
[01:09] <Jokk> dns_56 so how to fix it ?
[01:09] <hkBst> humantheme.xml seems to be missing :(
[01:09] <agreS--oR> man this linux is damn' hard to figure out
[01:09] <agreS--oR> :)
[01:10] <CheeseGardener> I'll list what it says:
[01:10] <agreS--oR> can you help me with installation
[01:10] <agreS--oR> can you help me with installation
[01:10] <agreS--oR> i have read
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> agreS--oR: no its not.
[01:11] <agreS--oR> read me file
[01:11] <CheeseGardener> I go into manual prepare disk
[01:11] <riaal_> howlingmadhowi1, there must be something else?
[01:11] <CheeseGardener> and it says this:
[01:11] <agreS--oR> but i can't figure it out
[01:11] <CheeseGardener> it lists two devices:
[01:11] <CheeseGardener> The main hard drive is says "Device"
[01:11] <CheeseGardener> and says /dev/sda
[01:11] <howlingmadhowi1> jokk: looks like synaptic crashed or was shut down before it could finish working. just run the command "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in a terminal
[01:11] <dns_56> Jokk can't remember exactly how to fix it do you have enough hard disk space?
[01:11] <hkBst> is there a simple way to install ubuntu using a text isntaller?
[01:11] <Jokk> dns_56 160
[01:11] <CheeseGardener> and then under that /dev/sda1 ntfs  /media/sda1
[01:11] <CheshireViking> hkBst, use the alternate install cd
[01:12] <IdleOne> !alternate | hkBst
[01:12] <ubotu> hkBst: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: what are you talking about?
[01:12] <Jokk> howlingmadhowi1
[01:12] <Jokk> dont work
[01:12] <CheeseGardener> in the forth installation step
[01:12] <CheeseGardener> it wants me to make a partition
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[01:12] <CheeseGardener> and it says that there is a partition
[01:12] <CheeseGardener> or rather
[01:12] <CheeseGardener> a device called /dev/sda
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> so partition it.
[01:12] <riaal_> Is there some other command for checking open network connections then netstat? Please?
[01:12] <howlingmadhowi1> riaal_: you probably want netstat -A inet
[01:12] <CheeseGardener> and under that is /dev/seda1 ntfs /media/sda1
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> it doesn't sat "Free space"
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> say*
[01:13] <howlingmadhowi1> Jokk: can you paste what it says in pastebin?
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: and it won't.. it just shows the drive as ntfs..
[01:13] <Jokk> 1 second
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> so what should I press
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> new partition table?
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> to get rid of ntfs?
[01:13] <dns_56> Jokk ok what i would try and do is install that package on it's own not with everything at once, try removing it: dpkg -r package name
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> no, you need to resize the drive.
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: why ar eyou doing manual/
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> how do I do that?
[01:14] <CheeseGardener> because it won't let me resize through guided
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: unplug your usb drive, and restart the installer.
[01:14] <riaal_> howlingmadhowi1, that works, thanks
[01:14] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:14] <avis> CheeseGardener, you could download a gparted iso and resize through that
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> i said that like 10min ago.
[01:14] <Jokk> omg
[01:14] <Jokk> omg
[01:15] <xoRock> how do i setup dns server?
[01:15] <CheeseGardener> I think I will have to Avis
[01:15] <CheeseGardener> and Indy
[01:15] <CheeseGardener> It won't let me resize
[01:15] <CheeseGardener> through guided
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: have to what?
[01:16] <CheeseGardener> use gparted
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: just open a terminal
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> and type "sudo apt-get install gparted" no quotes
[01:16] <CheeseGardener> when I resize the NTFS drive, will it delete the files on the NTFS drive?
[01:16] <CheeseGardener> or pull the 20 gigs from the 40 gigs of free space?
[01:16] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: it shouldn't
[01:16] <CheeseGardener> that are on the NTFS drive with no files in them
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: if you do it right, no, it won't delete the ntfs drive.
[01:16] <Jokk> all buttons of linux are missing
[01:16] <Jokk> :D
[01:16] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: it should just pull the the space from the free space
[01:17] <Jokk> there no buttons on the toolbar
[01:17] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: thats why you have to defrag first.
[01:17] <CheeseGardener> this new partition I am making with 20 gigs:
[01:17] <Jokk> dns_56
[01:17] <Jokk> http://i9.tinypic.com/66oxpx0.png
[01:17] <CheeseGardener> is it a primary?
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[01:17] <CheeseGardener> what format?
[01:17] <msingh> i dont think i've ever gotten an answer from this channel
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: ext3
[01:17] <Jokk> howlingmadhowi1
[01:17] <Jokk> http://i9.tinypic.com/66oxpx0.png
[01:18] <Jokk> look
[01:18] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:18] <howlingmadhowi1> jokk: i'd try a restart
[01:18] <dns_56> Jokk logout/login
[01:18] <Jokk> how?
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: now, you need to set another partition
[01:18] <howlingmadhowi1> jokk: i've found it sometimes works wonders with gnome
[01:18] <Jokk> :D
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> 1.5gig, Logical, swap
[01:18] <rausb0> Jokk: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:18] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:18] <howlingmadhowi1> jokk: ctrl+alt+backspace :)
[01:18] <CheeseGardener> I am making a new partition now
[01:18] <CheeseGardener> for it
[01:18] <CheeseGardener> wait
[01:19] <CheeseGardener> or should I just leave it as "unallocated space"?
[01:19] <CheeseGardener> 20 gigs of "unallocated space"
[01:19] <dns_56> use it
[01:19] <CheeseGardener> for the ubuntu installer?
[01:19] <msingh> Ubuntu and wireless -- anyone do it?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: you have totally lost me, i have no idea what you're talking about.
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> !install | CheeseGardener
[01:19] <ubotu> CheeseGardener: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:19] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: how are you resizing the ntfs partition?
[01:19] <CheeseGardener> if I have "unallocated space"
[01:20] <CheeseGardener> will the ubuntu installer use that?
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> if you format it to ext3, yes
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> otherwise, its ntfs, no
[01:20] <dns_56> yes it can, it will allow you to partition it during install
[01:20] <CheeseGardener> ok so I "must" make it a ext3 formated primary partition
[01:20] <CheeseGardener> for the installer to be able to use it
[01:20] <CheeseGardener> ?
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: well, that or ext2
[01:20] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: if you have unallocated space on the drive (space outside a partition), you can manually assign it when setting up the ubuntu partitions in the ubuntu installer
[01:20] <CheeseGardener> k
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> CheeseGardener: but ext3 is fine, thats not your issue.
[01:21] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:21] <dns_56> there are a few filesystems, ext3 one of the best
[01:21] <CheeseGardener> how about I manually set it up
[01:21] <CheeseGardener> for now it will be unallocated
[01:21] <burnerx> i want to run a mmo game but the game only support windows
[01:21] <burnerx> what shuld i do?
[01:21] <CheeseGardener> I'll partition through the installer
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> burnerx: what game?
[01:21] <burnerx> tried in wine and it doesnt work
[01:21] <randoman> hey guys do i need to create a hard link between mysql and mysqld
[01:21] <burnerx> Talesweaver
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> burnerx: well, then you better dual boot.
[01:21] <randoman> if mysql is chrooted
[01:21] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: when you start the installer, can you paste us the result of "cat /proc/partitions" in pastebin?
[01:21] <burnerx> i wanna try virtualox
[01:22] <burnerx> heard of that ??
[01:22] <randoman> and
[01:22] <randoman> ln /chroot/mysql/tmp/mysql.sock /chroot/httpd/tmp/
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> howlingmadhowi1: i didn't know he'd stopped and went to gparted.
[01:22] <burnerx> virtualbox.org
[01:22] <randoman>  if i do that mysql and apache should talk right, if there both chrooted
[01:22] <howlingmadhowi1> CheeseGardener: because i think we're all quite confused as to what you're actually doing at the moment.
[01:22] <howlingmadhowi1> IndyGunFreak: oh, he's using the gparted live cd or something?
[01:22] <reverseblade> burnerx, I am using it and it rocks
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> howlingmadhowi1: he installed gparted, and i think he was on it, now he's going back to the installer.. i think
[01:23] <reverseblade> burnerx, the only feature it missing is shared clipboard
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> well first:
[01:23] <burnerx> thanks reverseblade
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> I have to check the disk using windows
[01:23] <howlingmadhowi1> IndyGunFreak: well, as long as he backed up his important files before hand...
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> cause it has errors
[01:23] <reverseblade> burnerx, it has an ubuntu package also
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> howlingmadhowi1: i told him twice...lol
[01:23] <burnerx> reverseblade, i know... i just install it
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> apparently...
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> I'll be back on windows
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> !enter
[01:23] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> brb.
[01:23] <burnerx> reverseblade, good... i been trying to find a way to get it to work in linux
[01:24] <evan_> hey what program do i use to use my webcam?
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> !webcam | evan_