[07:31] <aimeri> oh yes... but for some reason, if I install kubuntu, anda lather on add ubuntu-desktop, it will think that all my kubuntu-desktop is a hole bunch of unused packages that can be removed...
[07:31] <tritium> TGPO: no, it won't.  You have to use deborphan and such
[07:31] <aimeri> lol
[07:31] <conz> when i open either disks in ubuntu or mycomputer in windows, it just looks forever never finding anythign
[07:31] <rcarr> no you don't tritium
[07:31] <acehigh> I have my ntfs mount in fstab how do I make it so I can let a normal user read the drive?
[07:31] <rcarr> apt-get autoremove
[07:31] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install something like this on my http server? http://www.s-code.com/products/viewerx/webvnc.aspx
[07:31] <rcarr> removes orphan packages
[07:32] <rcarr> and you can mark/unmark packages for removal with apt-mark
[07:32] <qzn> yes, i saw yours
[07:32] <tritium> rcarr: ?
[07:32] <Ademan> qzn: if you sent me any since that, its not working lol
[07:32] <qzn> ;]
[07:33] <qzn> shit happens, qzn[at] o2[dot] pl
[07:33] <tritium> autoremove is not a valid apt-get operation
[07:33] <tritium> qzn: language, please
[07:33] <rcarr> I think it is new
[07:33] <rcarr> are you running dapper?
[07:33] <qzn> ok
[07:33] <TGPO> auto-remove
[07:33] <TGPO> note the -
[07:33] <tritium> TGPO: also not a valid op
[07:33] <rcarr> I have apt 0.6.45ubuntu14
[07:33] <MrKeuner> how can I add locale to my system
[07:33] <rcarr> and autoremove is most definetly a valid operation
[07:33] <aimeri> If I post a dump of a backtrace for when my gnome-session crashes, will someone here be able to help me with?
[07:33] <Backu> tritium: auto-clean
[07:33] <acehigh> I have my ntfs mount in fstab how do I make it so I can let a normal user read the drive?
[07:33] <Ademan> qzn: got it
[07:34] <rcarr> autoclean removes downloaded packages, not unused dependencies
[07:34] <conz> anyone have an idea what the prob could be?
[07:34] <tritium> Backu: no, that's not for dependencies at all
[07:34] <TGPO> auto-clean just dumps your d/l cahce
[07:34] <qzn> ok
[07:34] <Backu> there is no auto-remove that I have ever seen
[07:34] <rcarr> I am assuming it is new
[07:34] <rcarr> I am running edgy and apt-get --version gives
[07:34] <rcarr> apt 0.6.45ubuntu14 for linux i386 compiled on Sep 27 2006 23:43:26
[07:34] <highvoltage> in edgy there's an auto-remove
[07:34] <highvoltage> it's a new feature in apt
[07:34] <qzn> ademan, one more question, you said you got rid of all broken pck, how do i chech which should i remove ?
[07:35] <qzn> aaa
[07:35] <Backu> I just wish I could get wine running on my system =(
[07:35] <rcarr> Backu, what is your problem?
[07:35] <rcarr> Is it auto-remove for you highvoltage?
[07:35] <acehigh> Backu: join the crowd
[07:35] <Backu> wine won't startup
[07:35] <rcarr> it's autoremove for me, I just tried
[07:35] <Ademan> qzn: all i did was open up synaptic, scroll down to find a package that was broken (has an ALL red checkbox next to it) click on it and hit remove broken package
[07:35] <Ademan> and it marked all broken packages to be removed
[07:36] <Ademan> for whatever reason
[07:36] <conz> come on someone help me plz :((
[07:36] <rcarr> Backu: how are you tryring to run wine programs?
[07:36] <qzn> ok, many thanks
[07:36] <b0xii> Backu: wine or the windows program
[07:36] <rcarr> conz: I didn't understand your question
[07:36] <Ademan> conz: what is your native language?
[07:36] <rcarr> Backu: Can you run winecfg ?
[07:36] <conz> the disks manager in ubuntu just searches forever never finding a disk
[07:36] <Dr_willis> SuperMiguel,  the vnc packages have  a web interface.. but i rarely ever messed with that part of the vnc servers.
[07:36] <Ademan> Backu: what version of wine are you running?
[07:36] <conz> the my computer in windows wont find anything either
[07:37] <Backu> rcarr: nope, that's what I've been trying to run
[07:37] <rcarr> conz: Hard drives of cds?
[07:37] <Ademan> !languages
[07:37] <acehigh> Ademan: can you tell me how to mount a ntfs drive to allow the user to access it also?
[07:37] <highvoltage> rcarr: nope, not for me right now :)
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <Chippy> hey, having a spot of trouble getting dual monitors work properly... essentially, I want to be able to maximize onto one monitor (not both, which means no twinview etc).  using an nvidia card, and running xinerama, which doesn't seem to be doing anything in the least
[07:37] <rcarr> Backu:  What version of wine are you running? the version in dapper is woefully outdated if I recall
[07:38] <Ademan> !ntfs > acehigh
[07:38] <Backu> 0.9.23
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  to do that - i thought you had to be using twinview.
[07:38] <Ademan> Backu: so you're usign wine backports? GOOD
[07:38] <rcarr> Ah, no particular ideas then
[07:38] <rcarr> no error messages or anything?
[07:38] <Chippy> Dr_willis: possible, but not just twinview
[07:38] <Backu> oh I get error messages
[07:38] <Ademan> Backu: so what seems to be the problem? there's a #winehq channel if you'd like, but what happens?
[07:38] <Backu> and it's a little spammy
[07:38] <conz> nope nothing
[07:38] <Backu> Ademan: They don't respond
[07:39] <Ademan> conz: what is your native language?
[07:39] <conz> rcarr thanks anyways tho
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i recall using the nvidia config utility to test it out with/withoug twinview and xinerama. i got best  ussage by using both.
[07:39] <rcarr> Backu: Does anything stand out in particular?
[07:39] <Backu> I'll msg you both the error I get
[07:39] <Ademan> Backu: what programs? some windows program you're trying to run with wine?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  but even then - some aps were REALLY stupid about it.
[07:39] <Ademan> because wine is far from perfect, not all programs work *YET*
[07:39] <rcarr> Ademan, not even winecfg  will start
[07:39] <MrKeuner> which package is used to to change the default locale?
[07:39] <rcarr> and ok Backu
[07:40] <Chippy> Dr_willis: mkay, I can use both... any suggestions on getting that set up?
[07:41] <Backu> The error gets slightly more complicated as well...
[07:41] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i followed some guides.. then i discovered that nvidia config tool can do it from the command line..  i then tweaked the xorg.conf it made.
[07:41] <Ademan> Backu: if you messaged me i didnt get it
[07:41] <Backu> hrm
[07:42] <Ademan> Backu: qzn couldn't PM me either
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i discovered the command in that "Ubuntu hacks" book.. but i cant find that book to look it up. :()
[07:42] <Chippy> Dr_willis: tried things similar to that, no go
[07:42] <Ademan> Backu, rcarr: join #Backu
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  that command generated a successfull script for me.   but i still tweaked it a little.
[07:43] <Chippy> Dr_willis: and said successful script allowed you to maximize windows on one screen, not both?
[07:44] <Chippy> Dr_willis: also, was it nvidia-xconfig?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  yes.. thats how it worked for most alll apps.. with JUST xinerama - it used both screens as one huge screen
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  proberly use nvidia-xconfig --help  - i spent some time reading its help outputs
[07:44] <Chippy> Dr_willis: that's what I have now, and what I don't want...  This is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27440/    I have done "apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get distro-upgrade", does anyone have any ideas?
[07:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell compu73rg33k about mp3
[07:45] <det> Is a realease candidate due out today?
[07:45] <aimeri> could someone please give a look on this bug report and see if you are able to help me?
[07:45] <Madpilot> det, it's out
[07:45] <aimeri> https://launchpad.net/bugs/65971
[07:46] <aimeri> its really anoying... u.u
[07:46] <Chippy> Dr_willis: so did the nvidia thing let you maximize to one monitor only, or did it stretch it across both screens?
[07:46] <acehigh> Ademan: thanks :)
[07:46] <compu73rg33k> ah thank you El
[07:46] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i used twinview+xinerama both enabled to get the maxing to stay on one monitor.
[07:46] <Ademan> acehigh: no problem :-) all i did was say "rtfm" hehe
[07:46] <El> >_>
[07:46] <Ademan> but i'm happy to help
[07:46] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i think.. :)
[07:47] <acehigh> Ademan: thats all i needed was what umask to put hehe
[07:47] <Chippy> Dr_willis: hm, okay... I've got xinerama working right now, but no twinview
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  BUT some apps ignored that .. they always maxed to both.
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  with just xinerama it used both as a single huge display
[07:47] <Chippy> Dr_willis: mkay, thanks.  Will put up twinview
[07:48] <steamer> will updateing to Edy, change my present settings
[07:49] <Ademan> steamer: not at all
[07:49] <MrKeuner> which package is used to to change the default locale?
[07:49] <steamer> thanks
[07:49] <Ademan> steamer: but a lot of people have had trouble updating to edgy, i reccomend waiting till the final release
[07:49] <Ademan> (i had quite a bit of trouble myself, and i'm still not there)
[07:50] <steamer> gong to do that, it is about a week away
[07:50] <El> Hey, Im having a problem installing ntfs-3g on Ubuntu. This is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27440/    I have done "apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get distro-upgrade", does anyone have any ideas??
[07:50] <TGPO> if I could just get my 7950 to get recognized I'd be happy :(
[07:51] <Ademan> TGPO: I think you need the new NVIDIA beta drivers
[07:51] <TGPO> tried that, blew my config to hell
[07:51] <TGPO> had to switch to the backup
[07:52] <TGPO> even after installing the drivers lspci still lists it as unknown
[07:54] <DaveyJ> hello!
[07:54] <DaveyJ> i just connected an external drive that is formatted as ntfs.. i'm trying to mount it but its telling me /dev/sda1 doesnt exist :(
[07:55] <MrKeuner> how can I add locale to my system?
[07:55] <MrKeuner> !help
[07:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:55] <rcarr> DaveyyJ: Does /dev/sda1 exist?
[07:55] <rcarr> ls /dev | grep sda1
[07:56] <MrKeuner> How can i Select supported locales?
[07:56] <DaveyJ> nope
[07:56] <unstable> .wc
[07:56] <james296> how come when I upgraded to the release candidate of version 6.10, I didnt get the new wallpaper, logon screen and splash screen???
[07:56] <DaveyJ> i just used gparted.. and its saying the filesystem is unknown
[07:56] <rcarr> is it usb DaveyJ?
[07:56] <DaveyJ> yeah its usb
[07:56] <Ademan> james296: they regected the new artwork
[07:56] <rcarr> does it show up in "lsusb"
[07:56] <rcarr> ?
[07:56] <Ademan> james296: theres a package full of it though, gimme a sec
[07:56] <james296> ummm, WHY?
[07:57] <Ademan> james296: http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/edgy-theme_0.1-0.deb   lemme see if its in the official repositories though...
[07:57] <rcarr> MrKeuner
[07:57] <james296> why would they reject the artwork...
[07:57] <rcarr> I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, as I know little about localization, but "apt-cache search locale" gives packages of the form
[07:57] <rcarr> language-support-* which seem to be meta packages for various locales
[07:58] <Ademan> james296: theres a series of edgy-*some form of art* packages
[07:58] <DaveyJ> rcarr: what do you mean?
[07:58] <Ademan> maybe those have what you want?
[07:58] <rcarr> and language-pack-*
[07:58] <DaveyJ> lsusb?
[07:58] <rcarr> running the command "lsusb"
[07:58] <rcarr> is it listed as an attached device?
[07:58] <DaveyJ> yeah what am i lookin gfor
[07:59] <DaveyJ> microsoft corp, microsoft corp, prolific tech
[07:59] <MrKeuner> rcarr: thank you
[07:59] <DaveyJ> i think its just a problem with the filesystem
[07:59] <DaveyJ> can i force it to read it as ntfs?
[07:59] <ice_1963> what is ubuntu runing for a firewall still Firestarter ?
[07:59] <rcarr> mount -t ntfs /dev/pathtoyourdevice /mnt/path/to/your/mountpoint
[08:00] <rcarr> but I thought you said it wasn't showing up in dev?
[08:00] <DaveyJ> its not lol.. it is through gparted though
[08:00] <ReverseBlade> DaveyJ, I have both read and write access to my  windows partition
[08:00] <DaveyJ> congrats?
[08:00] <ReverseBlade> yeah kudos to me , lol
[08:00] <DaveyJ> lol
[08:01] <ReverseBlade> I just wanted to tell you what is possible
[08:01] <DaveyJ> i just need to get 1 album off this damn drive before i have to go fly to vegas tomorrow
[08:01] <ReverseBlade> DaveyJ, why don't you search the forums. Tons of info there about mounting
[08:01] <DaveyJ> its not a mounting problem
[08:02] <rcarr> DaveyJ, what is it named
[08:02] <ReverseBlade> what problem ?
[08:02] <DaveyJ> its a filesystem problem.. i need to either do some kind of recovery or force it
[08:02] <rcarr> under gparted?
[08:02] <El> Hey I have just managed to install ntfs-3g. My NTFS drive is not currently mounted at all. What is the command to mount it (hda1) to /mnt/windows with full writable permissions?
[08:02] <DaveyJ> rcarr: sda1
[08:02] <DaveyJ> well sda
[08:02] <rcarr> Mm, if that is showing up, but not the partition
[08:02] <rcarr> I would have to guess corruption
[08:03] <DaveyJ> yes its definately file system corruption
[08:03] <rcarr> there is a package: ntfsprogs
[08:03] <DaveyJ> i'm asking if theres any way around that
[08:03] <rcarr> which might contain and ntfs fsck program
[08:03] <rcarr> but I am not sure
[08:03] <stevr1it> morning i have some problem with the audio who can help me?
[08:03] <ReverseBlade> El, follow this http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[08:04] <ReverseBlade> El, ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o silent,umask=0,locale=hu_HU.utf8
[08:04] <El> Thank you heaps
[08:04] <kenshin_ds> hi there
[08:04] <ReverseBlade> alright
[08:04] <ReverseBlade> Hello master
[08:05] <ReverseBlade> lol
[08:05] <kenshin_ds> hi
[08:05] <rcarr> stevr1it, no one knows until you are more specific
[08:05] <stevr1it> thNK YOU
[08:05] <kenshin_ds> its recommended use ubuntu 6.10 or not?
[08:05] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, after it is released you can if you like to
[08:05] <stevr1it> I I have ubuntu dapper and the audio of totem does not work,
[08:05] <stevr1it> 6.10
[08:05] <kenshin_ds> ReverseBlade, yeah i know
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> ReverseBlade, are u using 6.06 or 6.10?
[08:06] <El> ReverseBlade: I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27442/
[08:06] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, right now it is not recommended, just wait a week
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> humm
[08:06] <rcarr> dapper is ubuntu 6.06 stevr1it
[08:06] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, 6.06. But I am a bit conservative person
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> well my problem is...
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> ReverseBlade, haha
[08:06] <stevr1it> sorry the last one 6.10
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> im using gentoo here
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> but i got MANY MANY MANY problems
[08:06] <stevr1it> i am a bit sleepy in the morning
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> with my vga and drivers+opengl+fglrx
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> on this OS
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> and i want to change
[08:07] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, that you do ?
[08:07] <stevr1it> the sound come out low and no perfect
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> but, if i install ubuntu today
[08:07] <enoshei> increase the PCM
[08:07] <stevr1it> how and what can i check?
[08:07] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, go for 6.10 then
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> when 6.10 will be release, will be easy
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> upgrade 6.06-6.10?
[08:08] <npodges> where is a good place to get an xvidcap .deb?
[08:08] <james296> now how can I add the Edgy splash screen?
[08:08] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, go for 6.10 and you wont regret
[08:08] <ReverseBlade> El I can open that page
[08:10] <rcarr> Yes kenshin, it  will be easy to upgrade to 6.10
[08:10] <ReverseBlade> El,  it's my ISP I think, sorry
[08:10] <rcarr> I think you can use a program called update-manager
[08:10] <rcarr> or replace all occurences of dapper with edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <rcarr> and run apt-get update
[08:10] <rcarr> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> yeah i know
[08:10] <james296> well?
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> but when i upgrade to 6.06
[08:10] <El> ohk, il paste the error here then. Sorry for channel flood everyone
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> of this way
[08:10] <El> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o silent,umask=0,locale=hu_HU.utf8
[08:10] <El> Couldn't set locale to hu_HU.utf8 thus you may not see properly or at all some files.
[08:10] <El> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[08:10] <El> Failed to startup volume: Permission denied
[08:10] <El> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Permission denied
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> i got many problems hehe
[08:10] <kraut> moin
[08:10] <ReverseBlade> El, you do it with sudo
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> well
[08:10] <El> oh crap.
[08:10] <El> sorry.
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> i will download 6.10 and install
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> see you later guys
[08:10] <El> god damn, i hate it when i do newbie mistakes like that
[08:10] <El> :p
[08:10] <ReverseBlade> hehe
[08:10] <stevr1it> how can i recognise with audio device i have and how to set up it?
[08:11] <STI40> I just installed an nvidia GForce MX4000 in one of my boxes, and preformed a fresh install of Ubuntu Dapper Server, I can't get it to boot... Looks like something is looping when the drivers load
[08:11] <STI40> Any suggestions?
[08:11] <ReverseBlade> stevr1it, you may try, www.getautomatix.com, to ease your pains
[08:11] <stevr1it> alrady done
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> aw
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> i forgot to question
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> *ask
[08:12] <stevr1it> i have already installed automatix
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> 6.10 is compatible with xgl and wine?
[08:13] <kenshin_ds> hello?
[08:14] <stevr1it> the audio comes out bad
[08:14] <kenshin_ds> stevr1it
[08:14] <stevr1it> yes
[08:14] <kenshin_ds> 6.10 is compatible with xgl and wine?
[08:14] <El> How do I unmount a NTFS partition? it is saying there is no 'unmount' command
[08:14] <rcarr> Kenshin: Yes
[08:14] <kenshin_ds> El the command is umount
[08:15] <El> oohk
[08:15] <El> read it wrong lol
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> :)
[08:15] <rcarr> backwards compatibility won't be broken like that
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> no problem
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> stevr1it are u using it? its stable?
[08:15] <STI40> how do i go about troubleshooting a fresh install error?
[08:15] <stevr1it> using what
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> stevr1it 6.10
[08:15] <stevr1it> uyes perfect
[08:15] <stevr1it> only the audio
[08:15] <stevr1it> everything works marvellously
[08:16] <NetDog> anyone use fluxbox on ubuntu?
[08:16] <STI40> Hello ?
[08:16] <rcarr> I have been using 6.10 for a while now, it has been fine for me
[08:16] <highvoltage> NetDog: lots of people do
[08:16] <rcarr> while=month and a half or so
[08:16] <stevr1it> this laptop has a kind of srs Trusorrounded xt
[08:16] <rcarr> but some people have had issues kenshin
[08:17] <kenshin_ds> rcarr huum, a friend tells me that 6.10 has a little problem to install vga drivers :(
[08:17] <El> OMG YES!!! I HAVE NTFS-3G WORKING!!  Thanks  ofr all your help everyone!
[08:17] <NetDog> highvoltage: hi there..didnt see you
[08:17] <NetDog> highvoltage: :)
[08:17] <rcarr> unless you feel comfortable enough to fix things if your X breaks or something, I would wait
[08:17] <highvoltage> NetDog: hi :)
[08:17] <rcarr> but I don't think much wiwll change anymore
[08:17] <rcarr> just the number of people able to help you
[08:17] <rcarr> I'm not aware of a problem like that, but one could exist
[08:17] <kenshin_ds> rcarr yeah u convinced me
[08:18] <kenshin_ds> rcarr downloading 6.10 hehe
[08:18] <STI40> <--- does not exist
[08:18] <rcarr> it's nice, a lot of under the hood changes
[08:18] <rcarr> significant espescially for kubuntu users
[08:18] <rcarr> (me!)
[08:18] <BrettHatley> kenshin_ds, theres a 6.10? is that "edgy"?
[08:18] <rcarr> I thought kubuntu dapper was really unpolished
[08:18] <rcarr> Yes Brett
[08:19] <NetDog> highvoltage: Im having issues as always..I want to make fluxbox start up as my default window manager,I need to create a .xinitrc file or script but dont really know what to put in it.
[08:19] <rcarr> It's at Release Candidate stage now, and is set to come out in 6 days
[08:19] <stevr1it> it does the same with totem and vlc
[08:19] <rcarr> NetDog
[08:19] <STI40> My ubuntu box is broken... Can anyone help?
[08:19] <rcarr> unless you login from a console, and run "startx" to start up your xserver
[08:19] <rcarr> .xinitrc is not what you are looking for
[08:20] <BrettHatley> rcarr, is 6.10 "edgy"?
[08:20] <rcarr> Yes Brett
[08:20] <highvoltage> NetDog: hmmm.. I'm not sure there... a lot of people on #xubuntu uses fluxbox, perhaps someone there will know?
[08:20] <rcarr> STI40, be more specific, no one knows if they can help until they know what the problem is
[08:20] <BrettHatley> you told me that already, sorry rcarr I was looking for my whole name
[08:20] <rcarr> Heh, no problem
[08:21] <kenshin_ds> rcarr kde is working more fine on 6.10
[08:21] <kenshin_ds> ?
[08:21] <NetDog> rcarr: so then how do i set it to start fluxbox by default?
[08:21] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now to no effect.  Any ideas?
[08:21] <BrettHatley> whats the "edgy" channel?
[08:21] <BrettHatley> #ubuntu-edgy?
[08:21] <Foc> BrettHatley: #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <BrettHatley> thank you
[08:22] <Foc> np
[08:22] <THX-1138> use the clone setting?
[08:22] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hey folks
[08:22] <rcarr> yes Kenshin, it's a newer release of KDE
[08:22] <rcarr> and quite a bit nicer
[08:22] <PURESKILLZZZ> linux on a flash drive
[08:22] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.althack.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=27
[08:22] <rcarr> NetDog: Do you login via KDM or GDM?
[08:22] <NetDog> rcarr: gdm
[08:23] <STI40> rcarr - Fresh Install Unbuntu Dapper Server.  P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB Ram, GF4 MX Video, Intel Chipset MB.  Makes it through the install, loads kernel, at *Loading Hardware Drivers I get a quick flash and an auto reboot... it's in a loop
[08:23] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, thank you ! I have a 1g flash drive here ive been dying to do that with
[08:23] <STI40> I have a suspicion it is due to the video card
[08:23] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley No Problem !!!!!!!!!
[08:23] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, aww heck - I thought that was with ubuntu - is there a guide for putting ubuntu onto a 1g usb flash drive?
[08:23] <rcarr> NetDog: And fluxbox doesn't show up under  the list of sessions you can choose?
[08:24] <PURESKILLZZZ> Seen it ran on a lot of devices before but now its time for me to play with strabnge items and linux
[08:24] <BrettHatley> or can I plug in my USB and do the CD install onto the 1g usb flash drive?
[08:24] <BrettHatley> my USB flash drive that is
[08:25] <NetDog> rcarr: I swear i didnt see that
[08:25] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now, but everything still maximizes stretched.  Any ideas?
[08:25] <c|int> hey all
[08:25] <STI40> what else do you need to know?
[08:25] <NetDog> rcarr: thanks
[08:25] <c|int> having problems with nvidia agp
[08:25] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley sorry ... But I will play with it ssoon and share if I get unbuntu to run on it
[08:25] <rcarr> Hehe, no problem
[08:25] <stevr1it> what can id do then? the audio does not work propeerly
[08:25] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, that would be greatly appreciated, ive been trying to do something like that for a year or two now
[08:25] <c|int> edited xorg.conf, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org,  something wrong
[08:26] <c|int> can anyone help
[08:26] <PURESKILLZZZ> well I have installed ubuntu on 40 machines and laptops so far .....
[08:26] <PURESKILLZZZ> going to try the new alternative version and see if it will install on a 133mhz 16mb ram machine
[08:26] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, nice - what im looking for is a functional ubuntu install that isnt on a read-only medium
[08:26] <c|int> eh?
[08:27] <c|int> PURESKILLZZZ:
[08:27] <c|int> can you help me you think?
[08:27] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int what you need ?
[08:27] <c|int> trying to get my nvidia to perform righgt
[08:27] <ljlolel> I'm using the nv module because i get the error with the nvidia module: Error: missing /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
[08:27] <c|int> right*
[08:27] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley read only ??? You mean cd .... ??? So you dont want to put it on hard drive just another type of device ??
[08:27] <c|int> did, nvidia-settings nvidia-glx, but something wrong eh
[08:28] <c|int> o.O
[08:28] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int nvida ... hmmm do you have wine installed ??
[08:28] <c|int> yep
[08:28] <c|int> lmao.. run vmware and all .lol :)
[08:28] <PURESKILLZZZ> and you have the wine install version for nvida ??
[08:28] <c|int> hm
[08:28] <c|int> no
[08:29] <c|int> apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[08:29] <PURESKILLZZZ> get the package for it
[08:29] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, I want to put it onto a 1g USB flash drive, I dont want to install to it, I want to put the livecd on it but I'd like to be able to save my settings
[08:29] <c|int> is what I did
[08:29] <c|int> what package
[08:29] <ljlolel> you cant install nvidia-glx and nvidia settings ever (i dontk now why)
[08:29] <BrettHatley> I dont know how to explain that without sounding retarded - I want my usb to be like the livecd with the added ability of saving the settings I use
[08:29] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley The live should work on a bootable flash drive on a machine that can boot from usb
[08:30] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int get all the wine updates and all packages
[08:30] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, is there a howto for putting the image onto the USB drive so it boots properly?
[08:30] <highvoltage> PURESKILLZZZ: I understand what you mean, basically, you want a full ubuntu installation on your usb disk?
[08:30] <PURESKILLZZZ> I have never took the nvida seperate so I cant tell you exact name
[08:30] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now, but everything still maximizes stretched.  Any ideas?
[08:30] <ripper> does anyone know why tovid does not work on edgy?
[08:30] <STI40> My Ubuntu box hangs at * Loading hardware drivers then reboots itself
[08:30] <rcarr> BrettHatley: A distribution better suited for that, that includes tools for saving and stuff might be Knoppix
[08:31] <BrettHatley> STI40, that sounds like an acpi malfunction
[08:31] <PURESKILLZZZ> highvoltage thats my idea but bret wants to run the live on a flashdrive
[08:31] <rcarr> BrettHatley: It is debian based like ubuntu, but oriented torwards running off thumbsticks and livecds
[08:31] <NetDog> rcarr: I start fluxbox,but when i right-click there is no menu only the word fluxbox,
[08:31] <BrettHatley> rcarr, knoppix has a usb image???
[08:31] <ripper> seems that tovid will not encode video for some reason
[08:31] <rcarr> Brett: Yes, I am certain I have seen it before let me look
[08:31] <STI40> Brett so check ??
[08:31] <NetDog> rcarr: what are possible reasons for this
[08:32] <rcarr> NetDog: I have never used fluxbox, but it's possible it requires manual configuration to add menu stuff
[08:32] <c|int> back
[08:32] <PURESKILLZZZ> wb
[08:32] <c|int> so do what about the nvidia
[08:32] <BrettHatley> STI40, please tell me your hardware setup
[08:32] <c|int> I'm an IT PURESKILLZZZ
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: This might be more useful to you: http://rz-obrian.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/knoppix-usb/
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: You could probably modify the ubuntu cd via a similar process
[08:33] <BrettHatley> rcarr, thank you
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: If you are content with knoppix however, http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: has a lot of info
[08:34] <STI40> P4 2.4Ghz, 512MB Ram, (it's an HP D220 MT Workstation).  It has onboard video which I disabled and added a GF4 MX 4000 PCI video card (no AGP slot)
[08:34] <Backu> Anyone know anythig about winetools?
[08:34] <PURESKILLZZZ> well nvida has a few issues with linux as we dont hve all the drivers .... I have a similar issue but just living with 1024x 768
[08:34] <tupac> k
[08:34] <c|int> hey PURESKILLZZZ
[08:34] <c|int> talk in a few,
[08:34] <STI40> which makes me think that it has to do with the video card, because it was working with the on board video
[08:35] <c|int> maybe you can help me get my nvidia card working better :-) for open GL :)
[08:35] <PURESKILLZZZ> STI40 onboard video more than likely uses an older driver which has filtered into linux already .. new card is going to take some playing with ...
[08:35] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now, but everything still maximizes stretched.  Any ideas?
[08:35] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:36] <STI40> Pureskillzz - ok i figured that, but I can't even boot to console... how do i start troubleshooting?
[08:36] <STI40> other than just removing the video card
[08:36] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int I would more than likely have to bein front of your machine .. But to be honest I would just manually size applications I am using since both screens are working
[08:36] <THX-1138> Chippy - Have you seen this program "nvidia-xconfig"?
[08:36] <tupac> i finish the installition but how do i use it ?
[08:37] <BrettHatley> STI40, will the computer boot without the pci card?
[08:38] <STI40> Brett - Haven't tried since I reinstalled
[08:38] <Chippy> Can no one help me setup my dual monitors?
[08:38] <BrettHatley> STI40, try.
[08:38] <Bensr20det> Can anyone help me with a firefox issue??
[08:38] <PURESKILLZZZ> STI40 you have to do a manual boot or manual install .. Forget what ubuntu calls it ... In this you have to add the drivers to the system in dos
[08:38] <STI40> k
[08:38] <rcarr> ST140: wait
[08:38] <STI40> k... i just used the 'canned' install
[08:38] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, his problem is mostly likely from using an antiquated pci video card
[08:38] <rcarr> StI40: If you just reinstalled and still have the cd (assuming you used the livecd) boot in to that
[08:38] <STI40> k
[08:38] <STI40> one sec
[08:38] <rcarr> STI40: And find what device your ubuntu partition is, i.e.
[08:38] <STI40> k
[08:38] <rcarr> ST140: /dev/hda3, etc
[08:38] <STI40> only have 1 ide drive, 2 partitions
[08:38] <STI40> booting to cd
[08:38] <BrettHatley> ok anyhow I have to get to work - its been fun all
[08:38] <PURESKILLZZZ> lets see if it boots
[08:38] <rcarr> Ok, see you in a few minutes then
[08:38] <BrettHatley> Nice try again Madpilot  :)
[08:39] <STI40> yes, it boots to the live cd...
[08:39] <PURESKILLZZZ> Will it boot all the way is the question
[08:39] <STI40> almost there
[08:40] <Chippy> So no one here knows anything about setting up dual monitors in ubuntu?
[08:40] <STI40> I assumed i was supposed to pick the 'Rescue a broken System' option?
[08:40] <rcarr> Err, I haven't tried that option
[08:40] <Bensr20det> When I open Firefox I get a "Firefox - Restore Previous Session" I can say restore or new session. no matter what i pick firefox opens up is there for about 1 second and then it closes. also I am using edgy.
[08:40] <rcarr> but that is probably a good one to try
[08:40] <STI40> k
[08:40] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy I am asking the linux guru now so please hold
[08:41] <rcarr> Also, did you install dapper or edgy?
[08:41] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: mkay, thanks for the response
[08:41] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:41] <STI40> dapper
[08:41] <tupac> i finish the installition but how do i use it ?
[08:41] <aimeri> hey, this is a easy one... how do I blacklist a process???
[08:41] <rcarr> I missed the beginning of the problem, but I gathered you added a PCI card, and it refuses to boot now?
[08:41] <rpedro> Bensr20det: try and run firefox in safe mode like 'firefox -safe-mode'
[08:42] <STI40> yes, i added a pci video card, reinstalled OS... now it refuses to run
[08:42] <STI40> err bot
[08:42] <STI40> boot even
[08:42] <Hal_> Hello, running Dapper Drake (6.06) on an AMD 64. Trying to get ndiswrapper working so that I can connect to the Internet. I can't seem to find the build essentials package to download freely on the Internet and I can't just use apt-get due to the nature of my situation. Does anyone have any suggestions please?
[08:43] <STI40> rcarr ... ok i now have a 'rescue mode' console
[08:43] <Bensr20det> rpedro: same problem
[08:43] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy dual screen card or 2 cards ???
[08:43] <rcarr> STI40: That's a console chrooted to your install probably
[08:44] <STI40> k
[08:44] <rcarr> STI40: What kind of video card?
[08:44] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy What distro are you using ?
[08:44] <STI40> generic nvidia GF4 MX4000
[08:44] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: dual screen card, on ubuntu
[08:45] <rcarr> And what exactly happens when you try to boot?
[08:45] <STI40> when i get to the * Loading Hardware Drivers part it hangs then reboots
[08:45] <PURESKILLZZZ> STI40 did it fully boot with the cd ???
[08:45] <rcarr> He booted in to a recovery console PURESKILLZZZ
[08:45] <STI40> this is the server install
[08:46] <rcarr> which seems to be a chrooted console in to his install
[08:46] <kenshin_ds> im burn the cd of 6.10 :D
[08:46] <STI40> but yes just like rcarr says
[08:46] <rcarr> Mm, thinking
[08:46] <rcarr> well, the first thing to try, as it probably can't hurt
[08:46] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:46] <rcarr> is to make  sure the system is upgraded and stuff
[08:46] <STI40> k
[08:46] <rcarr> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:47] <rcarr> etcetc
[08:47] <DaveyJ> best rar handler for kde?
[08:47] <Hal_> Hello, running Dapper Drake (6.06) on an AMD 64. Trying to get ndiswrapper working so that I can connect to the Internet. I can't seem to find the build essentials package to download freely on the Internet and I can't just use apt-get due to the nature of my situation. Does anyone have any suggestions please?
[08:47] <rcarr> but if you just downloaded the CD it should be fine
[08:47] <STI40> yeah
[08:47] <STI40> doing that now
[08:47] <STI40> i didn't just download the cd... but it is updating
[08:47] <rcarr> err, DaveJ, I think ark handles rars if you are looking for a GUI tool
[08:47] <DaveyJ> its saying unrar isnt found
[08:47] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ hi .... ndiswrapper is easily found but you also need the actual driver for the wireless card you plan to use
[08:47] <tupac> no u have to do update it by ur self :)
[08:48] <rcarr> Doi
[08:48] <Hal_> Yes PURESKILLZZZZ, I have them.
[08:48] <tupac> ya
[08:48] <Hal_> But I can't find ndiswrapper. In a perfect world there would an amd64 package.
[08:48] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ did u find nidswrapper ??? or do you need it ?
[08:48] <rcarr> Daveyj, install unrar or unrar-free
[08:48] <Hal_> Well, I have the source, but I can't build.
[08:48] <birdfish> Hey guys, just wondering how I would uninstall certain themes?
[08:49] <DaveyJ> rcarr: not available
[08:51] <rcarr> What repositories do you have enabled?
[08:51] <DaveyJ> i should check
[08:51] <rcarr> unrar is in multiverse/utils
[08:51] <Hal_> A 64bit deb package would be lovely, but I don't think I'll find one.
[08:51] <rcarr> and unrar-free is in universe/utils
[08:51] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: any update?
[08:51] <rcarr> I would use unrar
[08:51] <rcarr> as unrar-free can't handle rar 3.0 files
[08:51] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy http://www.guru.net.nz/blog/2006/10/ubuntu-on-desktop.html
[08:51] <kenshin_ds> im going to install ubuntu
[08:51] <kenshin_ds> see you later
[08:51] <PURESKILLZZZ> rcarr http://www.guru.net.nz/blog/2006/10/ubuntu-on-desktop.html
[08:51] <rcarr> Yes pureskillz?
[08:51] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: that's not going to help me much, I'm on nvidia?
[08:51] <DaveyJ> i enabled all the sources and its still saying unavialable
[08:51] <DaveyJ> nevermind.. -free worked
[08:51] <ljlolel> i did apt-get --reiinstall the linux restricted modules
 but they disappear every time i reboot
 it disappears from the volatile/ folder
[08:52] <DaveyJ> ark still wont work though :(
[08:52] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/01/enabling-xinerama-in-ubuntu/
[08:52] <DaveyJ> dammit all the files failed :( .. must be the archive
[08:52] <rcarr> newer archives might not work with
[08:53] <rcarr> -free
[08:53] <rcarr> you have "multiverse" enabled
[08:53] <rcarr> and unrar still isn't showing up?
[08:53] <STI40> rcarr - ok it updated several apps, and have a newer kernel
[08:53] <Hal_> PURESKILLZZZ: Do you think there will be a 64 bit version of ndiswrapper, or will I have to look for the build essential tools, and make ndiswrapper from source?
[08:53] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: xinerama and twinview are running, no effect
[08:53] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy http://www.incunabulum.de/index_html/blogentry.2005-12-06.8595909838/projects/it/ubuntulaptop/xinerma
[08:53] <rcarr> STI40: I would try booting again, it might be a fixed bug
[08:53] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ dcc allow me ill send
[08:53] <STI40> k
[08:54] <Hal_> OK, give me a moment, still getting used to this silly IRC client.
[08:54] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:54] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:54] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:54] <tupac> any one ?
[08:54] <PURESKILLZZZ> OK ... Lets stop all dual screen questions ...... watch the video ... *Laughs*
[08:54] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiYGXyYjbGo
[08:54] <jimdaniels> is there any difference between the packages "xorg-driver-fglrx" and "fglrx-kernel-2.6.17-10-generic" ?
[08:54] <rcarr> Hi Tupac, repeating your message three times is a way to get ignored
[08:54] <tupac> e16
[08:55] <rcarr> You could try and find a channel discussing enlightenment
[08:55] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: and this helps me how?
[08:55] <tupac> my frins
[08:55] <rcarr> I think wikibooks has an enlightenment users manual
[08:55] <tupac> it is a desktop manger
[08:55] <rcarr> Yes, I know
[08:55] <tupac> ok can i use it in ubuntu ?
[08:55] <rcarr> Yes
[08:56] <ripper> anyone ever seen this? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/H4cKG485.html
[08:56] <tupac> thanx gad
[08:56] <Administrator> gh
[08:56] <rcarr> it's in the package "enlightenment" suprisingly
[08:56] <tupac> tel me ho come ?
[08:56] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: so you give up
[08:56] <STI40> rcar - ok no dice on boot, but i get some information on the screen when it locks up now
[08:56] <rcarr> install that package with "sudo apt-get install enlightenment" or from synaptic, or whatever
[08:56] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: ?
[08:56] <tupac> ok i did it
[08:56] <tupac> wht the next ?
[08:56] <rcarr> installed enlightenment?
[08:57] <rcarr> log out, and at the login screen find where you can select sessions
[08:57] <rcarr> and select enlighttenment rather than gn ome or kde or whatever you normally use
[08:57] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy do you have aim ????
[08:57] <PURESKILLZZZ> or gaim with an aim name
[08:57] <rcarr> STI40: I sent you a private message
[08:57] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: not setup on my linux partition :(
[08:57] <PURESKILLZZZ> private messages arent working well
[08:57] <jimdaniels> it is an important question for me because i need my xserver running propperly. please anybody?
[08:57] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[08:58] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[08:58] <STI40> rcarr i am unregidtered, says i can't IM
[08:58] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy get gaim and message me ... rashad69696969
[08:58] <jimdaniels> why you keep repeating your questions man
[08:58] <STI40> err unregistered
[08:58] <Bensr20det> easy question... I just installed edgy and did all the updates. when ever I open firefox to a page that needs flash player it shuts down firefox. I also tried to install flash player from adobe.com to home/me/.opera and home/me/.mozilla how do i fix this?
[08:58] <rcarr> try /msg nickserver REGISTER passwordyouwant
[08:58] <rcarr> I just thought since it was ongoing we shohuld probably take it out of the channel
[08:59] <PURESKILLZZZ> Bensr20det SImple answer .. Flash 9 is out .. google it ,.. install it ... iof u sdont have wine and/or automatix running then do that before asking again sir
[08:59] <tupac> rcarr
[08:59] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[08:59] <c|int> back
[08:59] <tupac> wb
[08:59] <rcarr> Mmm tupac, just a second
[08:59] <c|int> thanks
[08:59] <Bensr20det> thank you sir
[09:00] <tupac> ok
[09:00] <Hal_> PURESKILLZZZ: I'm sorry but this IRC client doesn't seem to want to work, is there a link to the file you are trying to send me?
[09:00] <c|int> need help gettin this nvidia agp working high performance
[09:00] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ get aim .. message me there ..... rashad69696969
[09:00] <rcarr> Tupac, are you running GDM or KDM?
[09:00] <rcarr> Easy way to identify: Did you install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:00] <tupac> GDM
[09:00] <c|int> gnome display manager
[09:00] <rcarr> Ok, in "/usr/share/xsessions"
[09:01] <rcarr> no enlightenment.desktop, right?
[09:01] <c|int> nvidia...
[09:01] <c|int> nvida..
[09:01] <tupac> no
[09:01] <c|int> nvidia :)
[09:01] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk_eftDNjEQ&mode=related&search=
[09:01] <rcarr> is there an enlightenment.desktop in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ ?
[09:01] <rcarr> If so, copy it over
[09:01] <c|int> need help with nvidia plz :)
[09:01] <tupac> let me chake plz
[09:01] <tupac> howld on
[09:02] <Backu> c|int: Just pose your problem or question
[09:02] <Hal_> PURESKILLZZZ: What happens when you try to send me a file via DCC?
[09:02] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ no good on this network
[09:03] <Hal_> Ok, what file are you trying to send?
[09:03] <PURESKILLZZZ> pureskillzzz.rr.nu : port 444 : up2me / up2me
[09:04] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ ndiswrapper is there on my server .. enjoy
[09:04] <PURESKILLZZZ> passive off
[09:04] <Hal_> Thank you.
[09:04] <PURESKILLZZZ> No Problem !!!!!!!!!
[09:05] <tupac> rcarr
[09:05] <rcarr> Hi tupac
[09:05] <PURESKILLZZZ> Anybody else with a video problem can join me on aim .... A linux guru is there but he isnt joining here today ....
[09:05] <Filox> hello, i have a question
[09:05] <tupac> i am a bigner
[09:05] <tupac> :$
[09:05] <tupac> i trry to get u but i cant
[09:05] <PURESKILLZZZ> on aim
[09:05] <PURESKILLZZZ> rashad69696969
[09:06] <tupac> do u have any link to help me ,, i don wanna bathiring u any more
[09:06] <PURESKILLZZZ> tupac whats your aim name ?
[09:06] <Filox> can i use my pc ir port with a generic tv remote? (cheaper)
[09:06] <ircnewb> thats a lot of 69's guy
[09:06] <ircnewb> what are you implying?
[09:06] <PURESKILLZZZ> *Laughs*
[09:06] <rcarr> I don't tupac, sorryr
[09:06] <PURESKILLZZZ> ircnewb yes with the right configurations but distance isnt long
[09:06] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[09:06] <ircnewb> someone might think you want to "cyber"
[09:07] <ircnewb> wait hold on a sec, im not in the AA room?
[09:07] <PURESKILLZZZ> I dont cyber ... I have a tech/help room that's been running over 3 years on aim
[09:07] <ircnewb> crap wrong channel
[09:07] <Filox> hey is there a channel or a person especially for ir linux?
[09:07] <jimdaniels> how can i check out if a module is loaded or not?
[09:08] <c|int> sup filox
[09:08] <tupac> lol Filox
[09:08] <c|int> nope :)
[09:08] <drbashir> After adding a hard drive GRUB complains and gives me Error 22, what do I do?
[09:08] <Filox> sup?
[09:08] <drbashir> I have the HD connected now, and booted into Ubuntu (I connected it while in the GRUB menu)
[09:08] <ircnewb> how do i set the grub timeout to 0 and the splash screen to show?
[09:08] <c|int> Backu:  , you still here?
[09:08] <Ayabara> !firefox
[09:08] <ircnewb> i remember their was a tutorial somewhere..
[09:08] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:09] <ircnewb> !grub
[09:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:09] <hodden> Have a problem with my graphic... whent starting Xorg with ATI Radeon the screen get black and I cant get back to the tty. first time anny dist has crashed for me...
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: You're going to edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:09] <ircnewb> ahh thanks tonyyarusso
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: Timeout is nicely explained in a comment, for the splash screen just add the word splash at the end of the relevant kernel line.
[09:12] <rcarr> hodden: What driver are you using?
[09:12] <ircnewb> hmm tonyyarusso splash is already at the end of the line
[09:12] <ircnewb> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[09:12] <c|int> nvidia, help plz anyone :)
[09:12] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int get on aim
[09:12] <hodden> rcarr fglrx
[09:12] <marcos9966> DISCONNECT
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: But you don't get the pretty usplash?
[09:13] <ircnewb> nope just text
[09:13] <hodden> rcarr and my graphics gard is Radeon X300 (PCIE)
[09:13] <ircnewb> i get some errors though
[09:13] <c|int> I register with, msn, and yahoo :-)
[09:13] <ircnewb> like unable to map stuff
[09:13] <ircnewb> but it still boots
[09:13] <Ademan> how can i detect the filesystem of a hard drive? (its a brand new hard drive i just installed, i expect ntfs but it could be unformated)
[09:13] <c|int> talk on filetopia, but really havn't talked on chat clients for a while
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: Ah, okay.  usplash falls back to text if there are errors so you can see what they are.
[09:14] <rcarr> hodden: You could try the "radeon" driver
[09:14] <rcarr> hodden: It has direct rendering support for the X300
[09:14] <ircnewb> and funny thing is, i have to unplug my external usb drive during boot up, if not it freezes up on mounting file systems
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Perhaps with fdisk?
[09:14] <ircnewb> i dunno why
[09:14] <rcarr> hodden: And is an open source driver, rather than fglrx
[09:14] <rcarr> Hodden: I'm not sure if it is included in dappers Xorg though
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: I had a similar problem
[09:15] <ircnewb> is it a known issue?
[09:15] <ircnewb> or is it just me?
[09:15] <c|int> talk later, on issue
[09:15] <c|int> :)
[09:15] <rcarr> hodden: and if it is, it is probably a less matured version as the dri on the radeon driver isn't that old
[09:15] <Ademan> its unformated
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: I don't know; I haven't gotten around to searching the bugs yet.
[09:15] <Ademan> what type of disklabel should i create for my hard drive?
[09:15] <ircnewb> label it whatever you want
[09:15] <ircnewb> haha jk
[09:16] <rcarr> hodden: But, checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:16] <rcarr> hodden: and look for anything that seems like it could be related to the lockup, and send it here if it doesn't clear up your problems for you
[09:17] <ircnewb> why is he using the fglrx driver? isn't it still buggy? mesa drivers are pretty good, unless you plan on gaming
[09:17] <hodden> ok I'll have a look at it and I'll  get back
[09:17] <rcarr> Ok, good luck
[09:17] <rcarr> and ircnewb, eye candy stuff requires direct rendering as well
[09:17] <rcarr> but fglrx is kind of buggy
[09:18] <ircnewb> true
[09:18] <ircnewb> nvidia have better support on their drivers imo
[09:18] <ircnewb> even on linux
[09:18] <rcarr> Yeah, they do
[09:18] <rcarr> the R300 ATI chipsets now have an open  source driver
[09:18] <rcarr> with DRI though
[09:18] <ircnewb> but we all know that ati pwns nvidia
[09:19] <ircnewb> still*
[09:19] <ircnewb> like amd pwns intel
[09:19] <rcarr> meh, I won't be buying any more ati cards
[09:20] <ircnewb> too expensive eh?
[09:20] <ircnewb> i agree
[09:20] <rcarr> No, just the poor linux support
[09:20] <ircnewb> ahaha
[09:20] <rcarr> I will probably go for an intel integrated
[09:20] <ircnewb> oh god
[09:20] <rcarr> Intel has good open source drivers
[09:20] <ircnewb> um..ya..but they don't benchmark as good
[09:20] <ircnewb> unless you don't plan on gaming
[09:20] <rcarr> Yeah, but I don't play games
[09:20] <ircnewb> cool :-)
[09:21] <ircnewb> i play games on console mostly...if i have time
[09:21] <ircnewb> waiting for gears of war
[09:21] <rcarr> Ah, I have seen limited amounts of information related to that
[09:21] <rcarr> Unreal 3 engine, right?
[09:21] <ircnewb> yeppers
[09:22] <rcarr> Interesting
[09:22] <ircnewb> it pwns the quake4 engine
[09:22] <rcarr> re-align: Gnometris
[09:22] <ircnewb> all quake4 had was that dam shader engine
[09:22] <ircnewb> i hate it
[09:22] <ircnewb> too dam dark
[09:22] <re-align> I
[09:23] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2394487
[09:23] <rcarr> re-align: On a more serious note, FreeCiv is supposed to be good if you like strategy type games
[09:23] <rcarr> re-align: TuxRacer (ppracer now I think) is a linux classic
[09:23] <rcarr> re-align:  nethack is a classic in general
[09:24] <ircnewb> oh i mess the old nes days
[09:24] <zyzy> are you available to play games on ubuntu or not ?! games like quake3 or something. i ask because i saw many screenshots with quake3 shortcut
[09:24] <ircnewb> i used to have a library of games
[09:24] <jimdaniels> SNES 4 life
[09:24] <ircnewb> snes did pwn though
[09:25] <ircnewb> i remember my first game...super mario world
[09:25] <ircnewb> then street fighter 2
[09:25] <re-align> I prefer strategy and simulation. Things like the Civilization series (played freeeciv), Orbiter (DirectX based space flight simulator), and things of that nature.
[09:25] <jimdaniels> i fink my first games were GB games
[09:25] <ircnewb> lol
[09:25] <zyzy> anyone here who can tell me please ?
[09:26] <zyzy> are you available to play games on ubuntu or not ?! games like quake3 or something. i ask because i saw many screenshots with quake3 shortcut
[09:26] <ircnewb> contra was my first nes game
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> Hey guys, the games talk would fit better in #ubuntu-offtopic (try to keep it to just support in here).
[09:26] <ircnewb> yea you can play quake3
[09:26] <ircnewb> under linux
[09:26] <rcarr> Zyzy: If there is a linux version of the game, yes, or if it runs under wine (www.winehq.com)
[09:26] <ircnewb> sorry tonyyarusso
[09:26] <zyzy> rcarr and with gnome you can ?
[09:27] <zyzy> sorry tonyyarusso , this will be the last question.
[09:27] <rcarr> zyzy: Sure
[09:27] <zyzy>  ok, thanks
[09:28] <rcarr> Mm, how long before he comes back asking how to set up video card drivers?
[09:28] <euxneks> hrm
[09:28] <euxneks> freaky
[09:28] <euxneks> ha
[09:28] <euxneks> I'm not used to this IRC client
[09:29] <ircnewb> time for venture bros
[09:29] <ircnewb> later guys
[09:34] <morbid88> Hello. I'm having trouble burning DVDs -- When I insert a blank DVD-R it doesn't show up, but blank CD-Rs do.
[09:35] <yakumo> hi pls help installing vcdImager
[09:36] <Flannel> yakumo: you need to have universe enabled, then just install it with your favorite package manager
[09:36] <yakumo> like apt-get install vcd imager
[09:36] <Mitsu> NickServ M1tsu
[09:37] <Ademan> is there any way to change your running window manager in the middle of an X session?
[09:37] <Flannel> yakumo: one work, sudo apt-get install vcdimager
[09:37] <rcarr> Yakumo, for the future, you can run apt-cache search vcdimager or if you aren't sure of the exact name vcd, etc etc
[09:38] <rcarr> to search the repos
[09:38] <yakumo> thnks
[09:38] <rcarr> and if you give apt a space it assumes youa re talking about multiple packages
[09:38] <yakumo> thats really help a lot
[09:38] <flasher> when does edgy come out?
[09:39] <flasher> where can i get flash 9 beta for linux?
[09:39] <BelialMkII> flasher, labs.adobe.com
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> flasher: 28th
[09:39] <BelialMkII> But i just removed it today
[09:39] <BelialMkII> Was playing hell with streaming video
[09:39] <Flannel> flasher: oct 26, and !flash9
[09:39] <flasher> you removed flash from your computer?
[09:39] <flasher> !flash9
[09:39] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[09:40] <Bensr20det> Can I make an icon on a panel change size when i move my mouse over them?
[09:40] <morbid88> hey there. If anyone answered me -- I'm sorry but I had to reboot.
[09:40] <morbid88> so could someone help me figure out why blank DVD-Rs don't show up on my desktop?
[09:42] <metatag> hello all! flash 9.0 beta is out!
[09:43] <metatag> btw how do we compile mpich programs on ubuntu? which commands to use?
[09:43] <morbid88> Anyone have any idea about the DVD-R drive not showing blanks?
[09:46] <Smotang> Wow this is the most silent i have seen this channel
[09:47] <rcarr> Way to ruin it Smotang
[09:47] <rcarr> we were having a moment of silence for err
[09:47] <rcarr> Gentoo users who die of starvation waiting for their install to finish
[09:47] <Smotang> haha
[09:47] <Smotang> For a moment there i didnt know if you were joking or not
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> ha
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> hi there
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> !
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> i already installed ubuntu 6.10
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> anyone can me help to install my vga drivers?
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> kenshin_ds: #ubuntu+1 for Edgy questions :)
[09:50] <Shadowthrone> How can I change the Firefox thumbnail from that silly globe into the fox?
[09:50] <kenshin_ds> tonyyarusso, thank u :)
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> What do I do to kill an app that's locked up?
[09:51] <Ignatius> sudo kill -9 pid
[09:51] <cafuego> Corporal_Dirge: right click the title bar, choose 'close'
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I get the pid?
[09:53] <Ignatius> ps ax | grep application
[09:53] <cafuego> Corporal_Dirge: Of run the system monitor
[09:53] <Corporal_Dirge> cafuego, Ok, thanks. System monitor did the trick.
[09:53] <rcarr> Corporal: in the future
[09:53] <rcarr> you can also run sudo killall -9 processname
[09:53] <rcarr> and bash 2 has tab completion on process names
[09:53] <cafuego> rcarr: sudo is not needed
[09:53] <Ignatius> it's a "shame" I never got into those graphical management tools :(
[09:53] <rcarr> so you just have to get the first few letters
[09:53] <cafuego> rcarr: and killall may have side effects
[09:53] <Corporal_Dirge> I'd need the process name though right?
[09:54] <rcarr> cafuego: It's not needed unless the process was running as root, which it could have been
[09:54] <rcarr> cafuego: I wasn't aware of any? I am curious however
[09:54] <AdamMK> is there a way to make so it always returns to previous session when switching to another user that's already logged in?
[09:55] <rcarr> Coporal_Dirge: Just the first few letters,  which you can almost always guess from the apps name, then hit tab and bash fills in the rest
[09:55] <cafuego> rcarr: imagine a multiuserbox with lots of people running <app> and someone running 'sudo killall <app>'
[09:55] <cyberix> Will there be a way for upgrading current LTS to the next LTS when it is released?
[09:55] <rcarr> cafuego: Ah, right, I wasn't thinking about a multiuser situation
[09:55] <Ademan> what's the name of the packages that has gksuexec in it?
[09:55] <cafuego> cyberix: I imagine so.
[09:55] <cafuego> rcarr: Without sudo it'd be fine.
[09:56] <YouBeOne> How many of you are going to stick with dapper LTS when edgy is released?
[09:56] <AdamMK> anyone? is there a way to make so it always returns to previous session when switching to another user that's already logged in?
[09:57] <rcarr> Yeah, I have more or less no experience in a multi user enviroment so things related to it don't occur to me
[09:57] <cafuego> YouBeOne: 511 of the 828 currently here
[09:57] <cafuego> rcarr: I cna be a BOFH so I on occasion do run such things to annoy users ;-)
[09:57] <YouBeOne> cafuego: how do you know that?
[09:57] <kenshin_ds> i got a problem installing fglrx drivers
[09:57] <kenshin_ds> anyone can help me?
[09:57] <cafuego> YouBeOne: Just guessing.
[09:57] <rcarr> We can try kenshin
[09:57] <rcarr> be more specific
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> well
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> the ubuntu tells me
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> that fglrx is installed
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> but when i type fglrxinfo
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> doesnt show my vga card
[09:59] <Ademan> how do you add a session type to the gnome display manager login?
[09:59] <rcarr> What do you mean ubuntu tells you fglrx is installed?
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> no errors
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> with dmesg
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:00] <YouBeOne> I am running ubuntu k8-smp (64bit) and as far as I can tell there's lots of buggy stuff in the universal repositories!
[10:00] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: which does 'lspci | grep -i ati' say?
[10:00] <YouBeOne> Enough bugs to overload launchpad hehe
[10:00] <rcarr> ah, I thought you meant you had used some program that had given you the information
[10:00] <cafuego> YouBeOne: Hmmwell, 64bit isn't quite ready yet in terms of desktop (coz lots of stuff just don't work right)
[10:00] <kenshin_ds> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600
[10:01] <rcarr> what does fglrxinfo give you?
[10:01] <rcarr> specifically?
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[10:01] <YouBeOne> solution= buy the devs some cheap amd64 cpus?
[10:01] <rcarr> This is a fresh install, right?
[10:01] <YouBeOne> only kidding
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> fresh?
[10:02] <cafuego> YouBeOne: More a matter of kicking Sun & Adobe
[10:02] <kenshin_ds> u say apt-get install ?
[10:02] <rcarr> As in you just installed?
[10:02] <rcarr> I thought I remembered you saying you had just installed edgy eft
[10:02] <rcarr> around 30 minutes ago
[10:02] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: Did you install 'linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[10:02] <rcarr> because the most common thinng to give that result is libGL.so.1 being linked
[10:02] <kenshin_ds> cafuego, yeah, but i already the last version
[10:02] <rcarr> to the mesa version, rather than the fglrx version
[10:02] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: ... and confirue X to actually use the fglrx driver as opposed to ati...
[10:02] <rcarr> but, I don't see that happening if you just installed
[10:03] <rcarr> kenshin:
[10:03] <rcarr> LIBGL_DEBUG="verbose" fglrxinfo
[10:03] <rcarr> ?
[10:03] <gansinho> hello guys, after the announcement of the release candidate, is most likely that this is the final version of edgy? in that page, there are instructions, if I fallow them I'll lose the data in my home folder?
[10:04] <cafuego> gansinho: NO upgrade will erase data from /home. Only a fresh install will do that.
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, sorry buy i dont understand what u mean
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> cafuego,
[10:05] <rcarr> at a shell
[10:05] <dibblego> trying to configure a WPA-PSK wireless network - all these web pages tell me to do it through Network Manager (network-admin?) yet all I can see is the ability to configure a WEP key
[10:05] <rcarr> run
[10:05] <rcarr> LIBGL_DEUBG="verbose" fglrxinfo
[10:05] <gansinho> cafuego: and about my installed apps?
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable failed
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[10:05] <rcarr> prefixing it with LIBGL_DEBUBG="verbose" sets the enviroment variable LIBGL_DEBUG to verbose, and fglrxinfo gives you more info
[10:05] <rcarr> ah, nothing new
[10:05] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: Did you just install fglrx or did you reconfigure X to tell it to use it as well?
[10:06] <kenshin_ds> i configure the xorrg.conf with aticonfig
[10:06] <cafuego> gansinho: It'll upgrade them where appropriate.
[10:06] <YouBeOne> What IRC clients are you guys btw?
[10:06] <Dextorion> irssi
[10:06] <kenshin_ds> im seeing here that the option OpenGLOverlay is off
[10:06] <kenshin_ds> i turn on?
[10:06] <YouBeOne> irssi?
[10:07] <unicat> hi
[10:07] <AdamMK> can some1 remind me again how to set up usernames and passwork for SMB folder sharing so i can share files with my windows comp?
[10:07] <Dextorion> YouBeOne: uhm.  ya
[10:07] <AdamMK> password*
[10:07] <dibblego> how do you configure WPA through "Network Manager" -- there simply isn't a way of configuring the WPA-PSK key
[10:07] <rcarr> Kenshin,
[10:07] <rcarr> I recall the problem now
[10:07] <kenshin_ds> i think that the problem is Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:07] <gansinho> cafuego: thank you very very much, I'll upgrade it now!
[10:07] <rcarr> You just upgraded to edgy, correct?
[10:07] <YouBeOne> Never heard of irssi
[10:07] <unicat> AdamMK, set security=user in smb.conf, and add user via smbpasswd -a username
[10:07] <rcarr> In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:08] <rcarr> add
[10:08] <rcarr> Section "Extensions"
[10:08] <rcarr> Option "Composite" "Disable"
[10:08] <Flannel> !tell dibblego about wpa
[10:08] <timalot> anyone know how to fix nautilus samba browsing? when i click windows network i get: "smb:///" is not a valid location.
[10:08] <rcarr> EndSection
[10:08] <rcarr> FGLRX disables dri with compositing enabled
[10:08] <rcarr> and it is enabled by default in edgy
[10:08] <AdamMK> ty
[10:09] <rcarr> err
[10:09] <dibblego> Flannel, can you confirm or deny - that you configure WPA through network-admin? there are conflicting documents
[10:09] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i reboot now?
[10:09] <rcarr> No
[10:09] <rcarr> just restart x, control+alt+backspace
[10:09] <rcarr> does the trick
[10:09] <rcarr> and brings you back to the login prompt
[10:09] <same> hi everybody
[10:09] <Dextorion> hey
[10:10] <same> who can help me please
[10:10] <rcarr> same
[10:10] <rcarr> no one knows if they can help you, unless you say what your problem is
[10:10] <same> install csim by net destop
[10:10] <Flannel> dibblego: use wpasupplicant, as per the WPA docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[10:10] <dibblego> Flannel, ok thans
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> check it out... a new Google service
[10:11] <rcarr> Kenshin, working now?
[10:11] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, thaaanks! its worked!
[10:11] <kenshin_ds> :D
[10:11] <rcarr> No problem
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> and wouldn't you know it, it's for windows users.
[10:11] <rcarr> If you have an ati card
[10:11] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i got a little "arthefacts"
[10:11] <rcarr> with the R300 chipset
[10:11] <rcarr> I suggest using the "Radeon" driver, unless you are a heavy gamer or something
[10:11] <same> i want install csim ,but idon't  know how to do it
[10:11] <rcarr> it has direct rendering support, as well
[10:12] <YouBeOne> Dextorion: are you running irssi in a terminal?
[10:12] <same> would you help me by  net destop
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i will use to play games here
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, cause that i wanted
[10:12] <rcarr> and you can use compositing with it, so you can use things like Berl and Compiz without XGL
[10:12] <rcarr> ah, stick with FGLRX then
[10:12] <Dextorion> YouBeOne: yup
[10:12] <rcarr> I'm not sure about the artifacts
[10:12] <same> I had start net destop
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i will got a ps
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, wait a sec
[10:12] <rcarr> Ok
[10:13] <YouBeOne> Anyone know the best IRC client with a GUI?
[10:13] <Flannel> !best
[10:13] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:13] <YouBeOne> hmmm
[10:14] <Flannel> YouBeOne: xchat-gnome is in main
[10:14] <kenshin_ds> i will take another, that is not so good
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> And xchat the regular one is in universe
[10:14] <rcarr> You mean the brown lines
[10:14] <rcarr> in fgl_glxgears?
[10:14] <gansinho> cafuego: one last question, xgl/beryl is working now, It will be working after upgrading?
[10:14] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, yeah
[10:14] <YouBeOne> how does xchat compare to chatzilla?
[10:15] <rcarr> On the subject of IRC clients, I find xchat and konversation to be suffecient
[10:15] <YouBeOne> in terms of functionality
[10:15] <alp> i recently dist-upgraded a remote dapper system with a custom kernel to edgy. following a reboot, the kernel now panics and is unable to mount the root filesystem (unknown) .. anyone familiar with the early boot stage know why this might happen?
[10:15] <rcarr> and konversation can be controlled via dcop which is nice for small scripts
[10:15] <shriphani> am gonna meet richard stallman today
[10:15] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, yeah the brown lines
[10:15] <rcarr> Mm, kenshin, thinking
[10:15] <shriphani> well not exactly meet
[10:15] <rcarr> shriphani: Tell him you are a "linux" user
[10:15] <rcarr> make sure to leave out GNU
[10:15] <shriphani> rcarr, lol
[10:16] <rcarr> then say linux over and over and dance in circles around him
[10:17] <rcarr> and ask when hurd is going ot be finished
[10:17] <shriphani> well he is giving a speech here
[10:17] <rcarr> On a more serious note, neat
[10:17] <mypapit> offline!!!!
[10:17] <rcarr> Stallman is interesting
[10:17] <shriphani> yeh
[10:17] <rcarr> he is a bit polarizing though and alienates a lot of people
[10:17] <rcarr> as a result
[10:17] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, at least its working, on gentoo, fgl_glxgears simply freezes my system
[10:17] <kenshin_ds> :P
[10:17] <kuh-emu> installparty with richard installman? :)
[10:17] <shriphani> rcarr, does the man give autographs ?
[10:17] <DMC1> Hey guys
[10:17] <DMC1> I need help
[10:17] <rcarr> No clue shriphani
[10:17] <shriphani> rcarr, would like one
[10:17] <Ignatius> DMC1: what is it?
[10:17] <shriphani> the thinghe has under his belt
[10:17] <alp> shriphani: at his recent talks he has charged donations for autographs
[10:18] <DMC1> Ignatius, Ubuntu hasn't configured my video card correctly
[10:18] <shriphani> emacs, gcc
[10:18] <rcarr> kenshin: I have no experience with artifacting personally, and everything on google says it is a non fixed problem
[10:18] <shriphani> alp, what ?
[10:18] <Ignatius> DMC1: so problems with resolution?
[10:18] <rcarr> Kenshin: See if it shows up in other applications
[10:18] <rcarr> shriphani: Yes, only GCC could redeem him after creating Emacs
[10:18] <alp> shriphani: you pay him for autographs
[10:18] <DMC1> Ignatius, problems with resolution and refresh rates
[10:18] <DMC1> Ignatius, it just installed generic drivers which are also quite slow
[10:19] <Ignatius> DMC1: and the card manufacturer was...? and model?
[10:19] <DMC1> s3 virge
[10:19] <shriphani> alp, does the man have a reason
[10:19] <Ignatius> ouch, sounds bad
[10:19] <rcarr> shriphani: His job is to go around speaking basically
[10:19] <rcarr> that's the only way he makes money
[10:19] <rcarr> that and prizes
[10:19] <shriphani> like macarthur
[10:19] <DMC1> Ignatius, any suggestions?
[10:19] <shriphani> the 240k he got
[10:20] <Ignatius> DMC1: just scrolling through the forums for one.
[10:20] <DMC1> Thanks
[10:20] <rcarr> On the subject of Stallman, GPL 3 is frustrating
[10:20] <shriphani> so anything other than listening to a man thrashing a redmond corp is worth payment ?
[10:21] <timalot> whats wrong with GPL v3 ?
[10:21] <shriphani> how costly is taking a photo ?
[10:21] <alp> have other people come in here with problems relating to the new libuuid use in the edgy boot process?
[10:21] <rcarr> It seems to be too restrictive
[10:21] <Ignatius> DMC1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269811&highlight=resolution+problem seems nice enough
[10:21] <rcarr> I would personally prefer sometehing like the BSD license for most userland applications
[10:21] <DMC1> Thanks Ignatius
[10:22] <shriphani> i never saw any linuxer in my life
[10:22] <DMC1> Ignatius, any tips for using .rpm files?
[10:22] <shriphani> DMC1, alien
[10:22] <shriphani> alien -i package.rpm
[10:22] <DMC1> What is alien?
[10:22] <kupesoft> what's the best way to look at porn on ubuntu?
[10:22] <shriphani> !alien
[10:22] <kupesoft> JUST KIDDING
[10:22] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[10:22] <rcarr> By using the mplayer ascii output
[10:22] <LedStyle> Hey guys. Were can i repport a bug in Ubuntu Installer of the Edgy-Desktop?
[10:23] <rcarr> savint the ascii to a giant text file
[10:23] <rcarr> and scrolling down really quickly
[10:23] <rcarr> Have fun with that!
[10:23] <kupesoft> When's edgy coming out?
[10:23] <tristan> IS Edgy out?
[10:23] <Ignatius> DMC1: you are welcome, yeah that alien program is quite nice, but try to find corresponding .deb's for a change :)
[10:23] <rcarr> 26th
[10:24] <apokryphos> kupesoft: /msg ubotu schedule
[10:24] <shriphani> btw i gota say the bonx hangs too frequently
[10:24] <LedStyle> someone?
[10:24] <apokryphos> tristan: /msg ubotu schedule
[10:24] <tristan> apokryphos, done
[10:24] <YouBeOne> kupesoft: In case you weren't joking amule can suffice
[10:24] <rcarr> ledstyle: Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[10:24] <apokryphos> tristan: check the message ubotu just sent you
[10:25] <tristan> apokryphos, done thank you
[10:25] <LedStyle> rcarr, tks... will try
[10:25] <tristan> It's because I went on the kubuntu and thought it was out but it is release candidate 1
[10:25] <LedStyle> rcarr, do u know the name of the "installer" package?
[10:25] <tristan> Do you know if we will to reinstall Beryl after upgrading to Edgy?
[10:26] <re-align> Anyone here use WINE?
[10:26] <rcarr> I don't LedStyle, I just saw it in a bug report a few days ago as well
[10:26] <rcarr> I used to use wine re-align, I may be able to help
[10:26] <YouBeOne> re-align: yes
[10:26] <Ignatius> re-align: I guess quite a few many ppl. atleast I do sometimes
[10:27] <NetDog> rcarr: how do you change the login or ubuntu greeter?
[10:27] <menko> hi, what is the first file which is "read" or run before when you use sudo to run a program? I want to set some environment variables for every program I open with sudo.
[10:27] <rcarr> NetDog: You mean the login screen theme?
[10:27] <re-align> I am trying to run a program that requires access tgo files in its directory and subdirectories, simply double clicking on it in the gnome file browser doesn't seem to aloow it access to these things.
[10:27] <rcarr> NetDog: I recall you saying you used GDM, I think you can find gdm themes at www.gnome-look.org
[10:28] <rcarr> and they should include installation instructions
[10:28] <Ignatius> re-align: sounds like simple chmod-job for me?
[10:28] <NetDog> rcarr: no i mean, using either a console as a greeter or a different gui greeter
[10:28] <re-align> No write access to my ntfs partition
[10:28] <YouBeOne> By the way Songbird 0.2 is out it's a media player based on firefox
[10:28] <rcarr> Ah
[10:29] <rcarr> well, if you wanted to use somethingg like KDM
[10:29] <rcarr> it asks you if you want to make it the default when you install it
[10:29] <Ignatius> re-align: whatwhaat? ntfs? that's unholy.
[10:30] <rcarr> Err, the previous 3 lines were at NetDog
[10:30] <re-align> Ignatius, I agree, but I didn't know any better when I first put Windows on...
[10:30] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, im trying to install warcraft3 here :D
[10:31] <YouBeOne> kenshin: Installing wc3 is the easiest thing to do with wine ever!
[10:31] <Ignatius> that's ok. we all are.
[10:31] <timalot> re-align: there is a mount option to set the file ownership
[10:31] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne, i know but on gentoo it doesnt work
[10:31] <kenshin_ds> now im trying on ubuntu
[10:31] <kenshin_ds> :D
[10:31] <YouBeOne> kenshin: no such thing
[10:32] <YouBeOne> kenshin: all you do is set wine to windowsxp or 98 and install away then you start it with: wine <pathttoexe> -opengl
[10:33] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne, im following a tutorial
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Anyway, if you wanted to juust have a console greeter
[10:33] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne,
[10:33] <kenshin_ds> doesnt need to change a value on wine cfg?
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Check what runlevel your system boots, to by running the command "runlevel"
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Then in /etc/rcn.d
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Where n is the run level from the command
[10:34] <YouBeOne> kenshin: use the wine configuration gui
[10:34] <rcarr> Netdog: Remove the symbolic link to gdm
[10:34] <YouBeOne> kenshin: I think it's wineconfig or something
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> winecfg
[10:34] <LedStyle> rcarr, done. Now were can i see my bugs posted?
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> but look
[10:34] <YouBeOne> kenshin: right
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> Edite o arquivo ~/.wine/user.reg
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> Adicione:
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> "Gfx OpenGL"=dword:00000001
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> na chave:
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> [Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Warcraft III]
[10:34] <NetDog> thank rcarr
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> edit the file ~/.wine/user.reg
[10:34] <rcarr> Nettdog: No problem
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> Add "Gfx ..... "
[10:35] <LedStyle> rcarr, found
[10:35] <kenshin_ds> in key [software....
[10:35] <kenshin_ds> you do that YouBeOne ?
[10:35] <YouBeOne> kenshin: never had to do such a thing
[10:35] <rcarr> LedStyle: I was typing a response as you said that, hehe
[10:35] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne, so i will trying without do that hehe :D
[10:35] <rcarr> Speaking of wine kenshin
[10:35] <rcarr> don't use the version in the repos, if you are
[10:35] <LedStyle> rcarr, hehe https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67082
[10:35] <rcarr> that's my generic wine warning
[10:36] <YouBeOne> kenshin: maybe your problem is related to wine not finding the cd?
[10:36] <rcarr> it tends to be woefully outdated
[10:36] <rcarr> www.winehq.com has a link to an ubuntu repository that stays updated
[10:37] <rcarr> LedStyle: Odd bug
[10:37] <YouBeOne> rcarr: you don't need latest wine to install wc3
[10:37] <DMC1> Ignatius, it didn't help
[10:37] <rcarr> It can't hurt though
[10:37] <rcarr> and I have no doubt the latest one is more stable
[10:37] <DMC1> I followed the instructions on that posting and still exactly the same
[10:37] <YouBeOne> rcarr: yes it can you might run into a regression
[10:38] <LedStyle> rcarr, its a bug really flat
[10:38] <rcarr> I guess you are right, wine doesn't have many regressions anymore though
[10:38] <yhy> anyone get the problem of gaim in edgy?
[10:38] <yhy> i cant see the sys tray of gaim
[10:38] <LedStyle> rcarr, now im downloading the Alternate CD... i wish this works
[10:38] <YouBeOne> rcarr: with the exception of world of warcraft that broke latest wine after a blizzard update and then would only work on an older version with custom params?
[10:39] <yhy> so i cant focus on it
[10:39] <rcarr> LedStyle: Good luck
[10:39] <LedStyle> rcarr, and theres another too... look: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67084
[10:39] <akifemre> !g++
[10:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:39] <rcarr> YouBeOne: I wasn't saying it doesn't happen, I was just noting it is pretty rare nowdays
[10:40] <rcarr> LedStyle: good catch
[10:41] <disturboresiduo> how i can upgrade my ubuntu 606->610 with terminal and from cd?thanks
[10:41] <yhy> although i've enable the plug "sys tray
[10:41] <rcarr> I wonder how Sao Paulo as GMT-2 is still in there
[10:41] <rcarr> disturboresiduo: you can replace all occurences of dapper with edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <LedStyle> rcarr, :D
[10:42] <disturboresiduo> but i havent internet
[10:42] <rcarr> disturboresiduo: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/dapper/edgy/ig;' /etc/apt/sources.list does that for you
[10:42] <rcarr> Ah, but you do have a CD?
[10:42] <disturboresiduo> yes with edgy
[10:42] <rcarr> I think in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <rcarr> you can add a "deb-cd" repository
[10:43] <rcarr> with the location being where the cd is mounted
[10:43] <rcarr> then run apt-get update, andapt-get dist-upgrade
[10:43] <rcarr> but no gurantee of that working
[10:43] <rcarr> It's 4:47, I need sleep
[10:43] <disturboresiduo> how can i to add cd repository?
[10:43] <rcarr> goodnight everyone
[10:44] <rcarr> disturboresiduo:
[10:44] <rcarr> it is somethingg like
[10:44] <yhy> goodnight rcarr
[10:44] <rcarr> deb-cd /media/cdrom0 or whatever the path to your cd is
[10:44] <rcarr> check google for specifics
[10:45] <shriphani> rcarr, eww i have just a pad to ask stallman for an autograph
[10:45] <constrictor> disturboresiduo: go to system -> admin -> software properties and you can add cd easily
[10:46] <rcarr> Ask if you can touch his .emacs shriphani!
[10:46] <rcarr> ok, goodnight for real now
[10:46] <shriphani> umm   and i havent the money he wants
[10:46] <shriphani> $3!! i am 15 with no pocket money
[10:47] <StyXman> hi all. right now I'm running a live kubuntu. is there any way to put the "session" in a pendrive?
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> aw
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> :(
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> warcraft3 frozen here :(
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> doesnt work
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> i think that could be anything with resolution
[10:49] <tnnc> can someone tell me what might be causing edgy install to lock up the machine from cd install
[10:49] <disturboresiduo> i have do it
[10:49] <StyXman> tnnc: hw problems. did you run memtest on the machine?
[10:50] <tnnc> styxman no i didnt 1 gig mem in it plus i have 606 on it before
[10:50] <nulix> hello ! ; I am testing Edgy ; what is the point in fstab to replace typical mount point ie : /dev:sda1 by UUID=.....
[10:50] <jimdaniels> nulix do /join #ubuntu+q
[10:51] <jimdaniels> nulix do /join #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <nulix> jimdaniels : thanks I will
[10:52] <StyXman> tnnc: I mean, the ram could be borked
[10:52] <StyXman> tnnc: ah, and yes, you better join #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[10:52] <tnnc> styxman well it was ok till 2 mins ago the men so not sure
[10:53] <lajka> hi all.
[10:53] <winterweaver> Hi everyone !! ^.^
[10:53] <lajka> hi. what's up?
[10:53] <winterweaver> doesn't seem like much :P
[10:54] <mnepton> my nipples. it's freezing.
[10:54] <lajka> and are you english?
[10:54] <s_spiff> hey, any howto's on how to go about spicing up the desktop? the human themes the usual stuff is quite a drab sometimes.
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> i resolved with repository cd
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> I have launch
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> sudo aptitude upgrade
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> but terminal tell me this:
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> The following packages have unment dependecies:
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> xerver-xorg: Depends: xkb-data but it is not istallable or xkb-data-legacy which is a virtual package.
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> and other...
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> How can i do?
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> Thanks
[10:55] <winterweaver> does anyone have any info for me on why my GAIM keeps disconnecting.... (does this mainly with google)
[10:56] <lajka> goodi! so much people!
[10:56] <Corporal_Dirge> What's a Zombie in System Monitor?... Something that can't be killed?
[10:56] <timothy_> anyone know why steam wont work with wine?
[10:56] <Acke_ubu> hey, i have a very anoying problem.. how do i set the  keyshortcuts to disabled in the keyboard shortcuts app?
[10:56] <lajka> i'dt no.
[10:57] <kenshin_ds> anyone can help me?
[10:57] <lajka> sorry, i would like, but I can't.
[10:57] <winterweaver> s_spiff, Check out http://art.gnome.org ... you can drag and drop the themes directly onto your Theme Manager... really easy to install new themes
[10:58] <s_spiff> winterweaver, yup. already tried that. buts that too gets boring after sometime i was searching something alsong these lines: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112333
[10:58] <winterweaver> s_spiff, you might also want to check out XGL, but not if you wanna play games.... there are some nice demo's of XGL on Youtube and Google
[11:00] <lajka> hi.
[11:00] <s_spiff> winterweaver, i don play games on linux.. ig ot windows for that :( some how wine and CS never worked for me.
[11:00] <TheCarl> I recently installed the game 'Atlantik' and it keeps on crashing on me when I'm in a game, any advice?
[11:00] <lajka> hi. shell we give a party here? virtual?
[11:00] <s_spiff> hey can i boot into windows installed on a certain partition of my hdd using wine in ubuntu DD amd64?
[11:00] <lajka> certenly.
[11:00] <lajka> of course.
[11:00] <winterweaver> hmmm... lol... I think you're too ambitious ... lol
[11:00] <patient> Hi lajka, how u'r?
[11:00] <mnepton> s_spiff: WINE is an API emulator, not a virtualization schema
[11:01] <lajka> hi, its all good, and you?
[11:01] <s_spiff> mnepton, oks. i thot it woudlnt work.. but just was wondering.
[11:02] <lajka> is there ewery speaker for linux for blind useres?
[11:02] <patient> Fine thanks
[11:03] <patient> I don't know
[11:03] <winterweaver> timothy_: Steam with wine should work, I've seen guys do it... but you should know that Ubuntu is subject to what they call the 26% bug.... :P It downloads the steam updates up to about 26% and then bugs out... there are ways to get it fixed, but that I'm not familiar with
[11:03] <patient> may be should ask at ubuntuguide
[11:03] <Zaggynl> Indeed steam works with wine, there's a guide about it somewhere
[11:04] <cheesy> morgen
[11:04] <lajka> morgen. bist du deutsch?
[11:04] <cheesy> good morning
[11:04] <cheesy> yes
[11:04] <Zaggynl> this command should start Steam again after it bugs out at 26%: 'wine SteamTmp.exe SelfUpdate "C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" 14'
[11:05] <lajka> ich bin ungarisch. schn dich hier zu sehen.
[11:05] <cheesy> i need a driver for the lexmark optra s2450 (printer)
[11:05] <cheesy> does anyone know where i get one?
[11:05] <lajka> www.origo.hu/szoftverbazis
[11:06] <cheesy> lajka:  that's ungarisch...
[11:06] <lajka> sss
[11:07] <lajka> so a popular server I had never seen.
[11:08] <whyso> how do i get the mplayer plugin for firfox?
[11:08] <cheesy> i find my way trough
[11:08] <lajka> you get real player, and with it.
[11:09] <cheesy> is *.nsf the driver?
[11:09] <whyso> huh, player firefox plugin comes with realplayer?
[11:09] <lajka> yes. you get driverkeres.
[11:09] <lajka> yes.
[11:09] <whyso> k tyanx
[11:10] <lajka> who is the c.o?
[11:11] <umbro> c.o? don't zou mean CEO?
[11:11] <patient> who is the c.o?
[11:11] <whyso> Depends: xlibs  but it is not installable
[11:11] <whyso> howtofix?
[11:11] <lajka> channel oparator. der channel chef, dachte ich.
[11:13] <quantumdot> hello, i need a little help
[11:13] <lajka> say.
[11:13] <quantumdot> thx :)
[11:14] <cheesy> that was easy
[11:14] <quantumdot> i have installed ubuntu on my laptop
[11:14] <quantumdot> and
[11:14] <lajka> and?
[11:14] <quantumdot> i would like to import all my settings (passwds, etc) for firefox and thunderbird from another system of mine
[11:14] <usuario> dani_punta
[11:14] <quantumdot> is that possible?
[11:15] <lajka> it shell be given a transfer with much computers, I think.
[11:15] <patient> Hi kyja, where have u been?
[11:15] <quantumdot> can i just copy on .mozilla/... those fileS?
[11:15] <heikki> i'm not sure but maybe you only have to copy your ~/.mozilla and ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[11:15] <lajka> yes. or install real player, and its come with it.
[11:16] <quantumdot> lajka: ?
[11:16] <lajka> yes?
[11:16] <quantumdot> what has real player to do with my question?
[11:16] <kenshin_ds> hi
[11:16] <heikki> hi
[11:16] <kenshin_ds> anyone can help me with a freeze problem?
[11:17] <kenshin_ds> with wine
[11:17] <quantumdot> i just want to transfer all the prefs and passwd i have for firfox from a windows system to my ubunto install
[11:17] <lajka> it is so, if you install, at the and of the installation is that it downloaded the firefox, and you can download. or get it with a torrent.
[11:17] <lajka> or I can send you too.
[11:18] <lajka> firefox, I meen. but better is, then you install opera.
[11:18] <quantumdot> i like firefox lajka
[11:18] <quantumdot> and i have no probl with the installation, that is simple
[11:18] <lajka> shell I give you, as well as file sending?
[11:18] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: firefox's cool ! :)
[11:19] <quantumdot> i want to tranfer my settings from my windows system so  i dont have to enter all my passes for sites, etc
[11:19] <hastesaver> quantumdot, do you have both parttions?
[11:19] <quantumdot> it's a different machine
[11:19] <quantumdot> no partitions
[11:19] <hastesaver> quantumdot, so you can't access it directly?
[11:19] <heikki> quantumdot: read http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=261394
[11:19] <quantumdot> i was wondering IF i could copy the prefs files on .mozilla/ with no trouble
[11:20] <quantumdot> hello NTH :)
[11:20] <hastesaver> quantumdot, I was wondering if you could use Firefox's Import Wizard (because that's the safest way, usually)...
[11:20] <lajka> aha. sorry. transfer setting is the heavyest think to do.
[11:20] <quantumdot> is there a firefox import wizard?
[11:20] <NTH> Hi Quantundot
[11:20] <quantumdot> nth what are you doing here?
[11:20] <hastesaver> quantumdot, yes, but it's inside Firefox.
[11:20] <quantumdot> :P
[11:20] <quantumdot> hastesaver: let me check
[11:20] <Daemonik> I want to install a specific version of a package without using adept or synaptic, but using the terminal. What's the syntax to do this?
[11:21] <lajka> ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[11:21] <quantumdot> hastesaver: that wizard is to import from other browsers you already have installed
[11:21] <quantumdot> not serving for my purpose
[11:21] <hastesaver> quantumdot, yes, I realised that just now. It's quite useless, agreed
[11:21] <NTH> quantumdot: I downloaded a live cd of ubuntu but never got on with it
[11:22] <quantumdot> i have my mozilla on a different machine and want to avoid the waste of time of setting all up again
[11:22] <whyso> i think i added a wrong repository in synaptic... now its frozen, is there a way to help?
[11:22] <hastesaver> Daemonik, You want the version in the repositories or an entirely different version altogether?
[11:22] <lajka> link cable.
[11:22] <lajka> infra port.
[11:22] <lajka> total commander.
[11:22] <quantumdot> NTH i installed on my old laptop, too slow for windows
[11:22] <lajka> total commander?
[11:23] <NTH> quantumdot: for a windows guy it was a shock, but I should do the same I have an old laptop
[11:23] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: try copying everything from your progra~1/mozilla-firefox/preference/ to ~quantumdot first.
[11:23] <quantumdot> yes hutchGuy
[11:23] <hastesaver> quantumdot, you could use Google Browser Sync ;-)
[11:23] <quantumdot> i am afraid the keys will be wrong
[11:24] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: is it winxp or pre-winxp ?
[11:24] <quantumdot> firefox and thundebird encrypt the passwd and that's where my troubles might start
[11:24] <lajka> keygen.
[11:24] <quantumdot> winXP
[11:24] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: are you using smbfs or cifs ?
[11:24] <infinito> does anyone know why xchat opens weblinks on epiphany instead of firefox?
[11:24] <quantumdot> i doubt i can just copy the prefs and files form win to linux
[11:24] <hutchGuy> yes you can.
[11:24] <quantumdot> no hutchGuy
[11:24] <cobelloy> hi, anyone ever use vlc to stream video from one machine to another on a network?
[11:24] <quantumdot> can i?
[11:25] <hastesaver> infinito, do sudo update-alternatives (or whatever) to change gnome-www-browser
[11:25] <cobelloy> I cant seem to get it to work
[11:25] <quantumdot> what about the encryted pass?
[11:25] <hutchGuy> mount -ro -t smbfs //you_winxp_share/sharename /media/winxpshare/
[11:25] <hastesaver> infinito, or, if you want the literal answer to "why", it's because the default browser is set to Epiphany
[11:25] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: go to ubuntu menu
[11:26] <infinito> hastesaver: strange, 'cause in preferences i have selected firefox as my default browser, but in alternatives it's epiphany
[11:26] <quantumdot> i will try to deploy the prefs dirs from my windows machine into .mozilla/firefox ... but i doubt it will work
[11:26] <infinito> harmental: thanks anyway
[11:26] <cheesy> i doesnt get my printer to work (Lexmark Optra S2450). can someone help me getting the drivers?
[11:26] <hastesaver> infinito, yeah, some strange mess. Got it fixed?
[11:26] <hutchGuy> quantumdot, doubt is always a doubt until you try it
[11:26] <hastesaver> Wow, proves that if you ignore the troll, it goes away
[11:27] <harmental> infinito: youre welcome.....(???)
[11:27] <jimdaniels> the gnome?
[11:27] <jimdaniels> or the troll
[11:27] <jimdaniels> lol
[11:27] <infinito> hastesaver: in fact, it keeps opening epiphany...
[11:28] <cobelloy> or anyone know a better channel to find answers regarding streaming video using vlc (except #vlc, of course)
[11:28] <hastesaver> infinito, I think you need to restart xchat. (or maybe even restart GNOME by logging out and back...)
[11:29] <Ubuntu2324> Hi, I'm trying to play DVDs but it seems the stock Totern movie player is refusing to. The error it gives me is:
[11:29] <Ubuntu2324> Totem cannot play this type of media (tmw_aspect_ratio_square_menu_item) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it
[11:29] <Ubuntu2324> Has anyone had this problem? Or know of a solution?
[11:29] <cheesy> i just didn't get it..i found it directly at the lexmark page
[11:29] <infinito> hastesaver: weird, x-www-browser was set to epiphany as well.... i dont know what is the preferences dialog about browser setup for
[11:29] <hutchGuy> !dvd
[11:29] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:29] <hastesaver> quantumdot, http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ seems to be an easy way. Use it once, then delete the extension :)
[11:31] <gansinho> please, I'm updating to edgy  using "gksudo "update-manager -c -d"" could someone help me with this : http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkr5.png please?
[11:31] <ekidu> how to unactivate apache2 for a long time, without having to remove it ?
[11:32] <hastesaver> ekidu, how long is a "long time"?
[11:32] <ekidu> hastesaver: for more than one session
[11:32] <quantumdot> hastesaver: hey this looks just like the one I was looking for!
[11:32] <hastesaver> ekidu, if you want to manually stop it, it is "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop". It will start again the next time you reboot
[11:32] <matiu> How can I generate a ppd for my photo printer?
[11:33] <Willster> does anyone know of an equivalent to d-tools in linux? i have found a couple apps (acetoneiso, kiso...) but none that get around the safedisc protection
[11:33] <cafuego> hastesaver: he was after 'udpate-rc.d -f apache2' remove I think.
[11:34] <hastesaver> cafuego, he said "without removing it"... It wasn't clear what that meant :-)
[11:35] <hastesaver> cafuego, BTW, how do you add it back after it is removed once? I don't know....
[11:35] <gansinho> cafuego, I was trying to update that way when this http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkr5.png happened, could you help me?
[11:36] <Auckland_Pig> !tramp
[11:36] <ubotu> tramp: remote file access in Emacs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.0.51-2 (dapper), package size 252 kB, installed size 964 kB
[11:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, got popups?
[11:39] <Auckland_Pig> i'm trying to use tramp with emacs... but it ftp's rather than ssh'ing... why is that?
[11:39] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I got one pop up, the print screen is in this page http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkr5.png
[11:39] <Auckland_Pig> !emacs
[11:39] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[11:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, thats a real bummer.
[11:39] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: sorry I do not speak english as a native language, what's a bummer?
[11:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, it is an american slang term for something that makes you feel bad emotionally
[11:39] <kenshin_ds> DAMN !!
[11:40] <quantumdot> ~dict bummer
[11:40] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: yes its a bummer...
[11:40] <kenshin_ds> my ubuntu freezes when i start any opengl application
[11:40] <kenshin_ds> gansinho, pvt plz
[11:40] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: is there any oher way to update?
[11:40] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, you can use apt-get
[11:41] <whyso> totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:41] <C-O-L-T> can I use webcam and voice  chat with yahoo clients? Is there any application which does this? I know that gaim does not does  at all
[11:41] <whyso> how do i fix? (trying to install totem gstreamer)
[11:41] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I'll lose my /home this way?
[11:41] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> I forgot the command for apt to update your system, I think its apt-get upgrade but done quote me on it, read the manual
[11:41] <whyso> yes it is
[11:41] <whyso> sudo first tho bugga
[11:41] <gansinho> bubba
[11:41] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, no, apt is a tool , that gui thing is just a frontend for apt I think
[11:41] <gansinho> not bugga
[11:41] <gansinho> =p
[11:42] <whyso> hehe typo :)
[11:42] <whyso> anyone have an idea on the firefox thing?
[11:42] <ulinskie> http://www.aptana.com <-- open source dreamweaver alternative
[11:42] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: the only way to lose info is from a fresh install right?
[11:43] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, god no, theres loads of ways to lose your data, but updating your system with apt shouldnt be one of them - heres the problem though - if you run into that issue with the GUI tool theres a decent chance youll run into it with apt
[11:43] <whyso> never mind fixed it!!
[11:43] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> but it doesnt hurt to try
[11:43] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: i'll try now
[11:43] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, you can do yahoo webcam with gyach-enhanced
[11:43] <Administrator> are there already ubuntu edgy images?
[11:44] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: what is that ? gyach?
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, its enhanced!
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> not regular ole gyach
[11:44] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I don't really know what is gyach that is the problem
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> check out the website
[11:44] <gansinho> whyso:  sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't had effect... I should have any repos?
[11:45] <hastesaver> gansinho, maybe everything is already up-to-date
[11:45] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> whats with all the administrators anyhow?
[11:45] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> im starting to feel a little inadequate
[11:46] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: anyway i have another problem too, can not call with skype. So I can hear the presons but they can not hear me. I think it is a driver problem, my sound card is a rare one I use a Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop. And I can not configure my microphone at all. I use the latest version of skype
[11:46] <gansinho> the command I was using was gksudo "update-manager -c -d" in the terminal, but doing this I had the bug ... =/
[11:46] <[h] tony|afk> moinmoin
[11:47] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, I don't know about that, sorry, google is your pal for that
[11:47] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I have searched a lot but nothing
[11:47] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, I always use alsamixer and not the GUI mixer if thats any help
[11:47] <whyso> gansinho: you use sudo apt-get update first
[11:48] <Ubuntu2324> U CANOT B SIRIS
[11:48] <whyso> ?
[11:48] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: can I get this gyach thing in repos?
[11:48] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, no.
[11:49] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, it isnt gyach , its gyach-enhanced
[11:49] <gansinho> whyso:  I do, the output in ugrade is the same
[11:50] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: it works if I convert the gyach enhanced rpms to deb and install in that way?
[11:50] <whyso> ? hmm shouldnt be
[11:50] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, no.
[11:50] <whyso> sry im no expert sorry
[11:50] <gansinho> the command "update-manager -c -d" this -c -d has something to do ... maybe some command in apt-get ...
[11:50] <gansinho> whyso: thanks anyway! =)
[11:51] <torpor> hi all
[11:52] <torpor> is this the right place to ask questions about Ubuntu-PPC?  i want to install Ubuntu on my 17" powerbook ..
[11:52] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> nice
[11:52] <gnomefreak> torpor: yes
[11:52] <torpor> ok
[11:53] <torpor> so i've freed up some disk space under OSX (moved my itunes music lib to a new ipod) and now i want to know if it will work for me to 'resize' the partition .. do i have to defrag somehow first?
[11:53] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: thanks anyway
[11:53] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, why not just use apt-get?
[11:53] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I need to sleep, I've already bug repported that, bb
[11:53] <torpor> i really don't want to have to re-install my current OSX setup because its full of all the things i need for work (dev tools/etc).  so i'm hoping that ubuntu will somehow let me just resize the partition and install on 20gigs that are free ..
[11:53] <unicat> hm cant i mix dapper and edgy?
[11:53] <unicat> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[11:53] <unicat> E: Error occurred while processing yank (NewVersion1)
[11:53] <unicat> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages
[11:53] <gnomefreak> unicat: you dont want to mix dapper and edgy
[11:53] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon:  I used...=/ same output: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:54] <hastesaver> torpor,  while you wait for a proper answer:  I'm not an expert, but I would use OSX's partition resizer if it has one
[11:54] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, what needs to be upgraded then?
[11:54] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> heck if I had an osx capable box, i'd just run osx
[11:55] <torpor> i want to dual-boot OSX and linux .. i develop for both linux and OSX, and i want to get rid of one of my machines and just use my powerbook for coding for both systems..
[11:55] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: my os!
[11:55] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, i sure would like to give that a shot
[11:57] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> i should be able to try it on THIS box, its supposedly capable of doing those hacked osx builds for x86
[11:57] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: thanks for the help, i need to go anyway, bb, and thanks for your patience
[11:57] <torpor> okay so i'm going to just go ahead and try and do this ubuntu-ppc instsall .. wish me luck!
[11:57] <hastesaver> torpor, doesn't OS X allow you to resize from within?
[11:57] <hastesaver> heck, Windows did...
[12:03] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> hastesaver, no, windows doesn't let you resize either I dont think
[12:04] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, I used some "Disk Administration" or "Disk Management" or something.... it was quite a few months ago since I deleted Windows; I don't remember the naem :)
[12:04] <llama32> how well is creative's zen range supported on linux? should i expect any problems?
[12:04] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> hastesaver, that doesnt let you resize. Itll let you format and delete and the such
[12:04] <tarelerulz> any of you use swat  in  Ubuntu
[12:05] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, No, it let me create free space.
[12:05] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, Oh, I understand now... ok, fine :)
[12:05] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> hastesaver, only by deleting partitions
[12:05] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, yes, got it.
[12:05] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> you need linux for REAL work :)
[12:07] <ubuntu_> dziendobry:)
[12:07] <mnepton> zdrazvidya
[12:08] <tarelerulz> I installed swat with synaptic
[12:08] <tarelerulz> so it is turned on by befault
[12:08] <mnepton> ps aux will tell you
[12:08] <mnepton> (if it has consistently runiing processes, that is)
[12:09] <sonics> hi all =)
[12:09] <sonics> is there anyone here who is experienced with gaim?
[12:10] <b_52Centos> guys i am under ubuntu , i remove files true thunar , but the space of my home directory don't decrease
[12:10] <b_52Centos> xubuntu to be more precise
[12:11] <cheesy> how do i run a script(setup.lexprint) in the terminal?
[12:12] <gsuveg> re
[12:12] <gsuveg> pleese gimme url/info about official 'ubuntu' font-type
[12:17] <Dextorion> cheesy: ./script
[12:17] <cosmodad> how can I change qt-based application fonts I use in gnome?
[12:17] <cheesy> will try :)
[12:17] <sonics> hm mb some1 can help me.. when I try to move a contact in gaim to another group it says "cannot move contact" and when I restart gaim.. contact is gone...
[12:17] <sonics> any1 know that issue?
[12:17] <compengi> what should i do in "software preferences" to make dapper update?
[12:17] <heikki> cheesy: if you get "permission denied"-error then write chmod u+x file
[12:17] <Dextorion> what heikki said
[12:17] <cheesy> thanks!
[12:17] <cheesy> i did sudo ./*
[12:17] <cheesy> it worked
[12:17] <cheesy> ubuntu=best support ever ;)
[12:18] <compengi> what should i do to the universe and multiverse to make dapper update?
[12:18] <Dextorion> would someone be so kind and dcc me something.. whatever.
[12:18] <Dextorion> no to small though please
[12:19] <heikki> Dextorion: i'm sending
[12:19] <Dextorion> ah heikki thanks.  a bit to small though
[12:19] <Dextorion> :p
[12:19] <invisiblepinkuni> ubotu emacs
[12:19] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[12:19] <invisiblepinkuni> ubotu do you like gentoo?
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you like gentoo? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <heikki> oh, you want something bigger
[12:20] <Dextorion> thanks anyways.
[12:20] <heikki> wait
[12:20] <invisiblepinkuni> !gentoo
[12:20] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[12:20] <invisiblepinkuni> !freebsd
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <akifemre> !windows
[12:20] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:20] <Dextorion> bah
[12:20] <invisiblepinkuni> hehehe
[12:20] <Dextorion> ok, thanks heikki
[12:20] <heikki> np
[12:21] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> theres a windows help channel?
[12:21] <Jon-Doe> hello guys n girls, looking to get win xp and ubuntu on one hdd any1 know how to do it?
[12:21] <variant> Jon-Doe: install winxp then install ubuntu
[12:22] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> Jon-Doe, thats easy as pie, nothing special, make sure xp goes first
[12:22] <variant> Jon-Doe: ubuntu will offer to shrink your winxp partition
[12:22] <compengi> Jon-Doe: you need to make a separate EXT2-3 extension and install your ubuntu on
[12:22] <variant> compengi: dont over complicate matters, the installer handles that for him
[12:22] <invisiblepinkuni> Jon-Doe: make sure xp is installed first. otherwise it screws up things
[12:22] <Jon-Doe> k
[12:22] <Jon-Doe> cheers guys
[12:22] <Dextorion> heikki: heh.. is it any good?
[12:22] <compengi> variant: can you help me?
[12:22] <variant> Dextorion: is what any good?
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> easy enuff then
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> lol
[12:23] <variant> compengi: what with?
[12:23] <invisiblepinkuni> Jon-Doe: the ideal would be install only ubuntu or ubuntu/linux/bsd
[12:23] <invisiblepinkuni> :)
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> lol
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> its more a trial run at the moment
[12:24] <heikki> Dextorion: it's one finnish movie about Matti Nyknen :)
[12:24] <Dextorion> heikki: ah, okay
[12:24] <compengi> variant: i installed my ubuntu and want to make it update but i don't remember what should i do to the universe and multiverse thing to make the updates go =/
[12:24] <newRunner> Hi. What's the difference between ubuntu CD and DVD. DVD contain more packages ?
[12:24] <variant> compengi: to simply update just run: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:24] <heikki> compengi: do you want to upgrade your dapper to edgy or just do a basic update?
[12:24] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: the audio???
[12:24] <Dextorion> heikki: uhm.. just to be annoyting, could you dcc something again please :)
[12:25] <heikki> ok :)
[12:25] <reaperindeath> Hey guys
[12:25] <mjr> newRunner, yes; for instance, the DVD can fit all the three desktop environments, whereas there's a separate CD for each
[12:25] <Dextorion> thanks
[12:25] <compengi> heikki: just basic update
[12:25] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, yes, things like protools
[12:25] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: whats that for?
[12:25] <invisiblepinkuni> linux still has to improve on wireless and audio support
[12:25] <Dextorion> baah.. oh well
[12:25] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, multitrack recording
[12:25] <variant> invisiblepinkuni: i agree iwth the wireless but certainly not on the audio fron
[12:25] <heikki> oops, it was a little file
[12:25] <reaperindeath> Hey I have a question. Im using amule. Where is the download folder located for amule. I cant find it LOL?
[12:25] <compengi> variant: so no need to do something with universe and multiverse?
[12:25] <Dextorion> heikki: nvm, thank you
[12:25] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> im not talking about sound card support
[12:26] <newRunner> so the DVD contains all the packages that are availabe for ubuntu ?
[12:26] <mjr> newRunner, regardless of where you install from, you can install the rest of the packages easily from the net (if you have a connection, of course)
[12:26] <variant> compengi: unless you want certain software from those repositorys
[12:26] <Jon-Doe> how good is ubuntu with wireless support?
[12:26] <Jon-Doe> am i likely to be able to get a connection>
[12:26] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> Jon-Doe, ugh.
[12:26] <C-O-L-T> anybody uses a dell inspiron laptop?
[12:27] <newRunner> i have a slow connection, thats why I want a dvd with most packages I can get
[12:27] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4814
[12:27] <mjr> newRunner, well then get it
[12:27] <variant> Jon-Doe: depends what card you have
[12:27] <variant> Jon-Doe: what wireless hardware do you have?
[12:27] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> Jon-Doe, my experience with wireless and ANY linux distro has been depressing at best, although I did get it to work with ubuntu for 386
[12:27] <compengi> variant: because when i first used ubuntu someone guided me and told me to do something in the software preference regarding universe and multiverse thing
[12:27] <Dextorion> wohoo.. now it works
[12:27] <Jon-Doe> linkseys, belkin or a cheep thing take ur pick
[12:27] <variant> compengi: if your not missing anything you dont need to mess around
[12:28] <newRunner> is any package listing to see in the web about CD and DVD ?
[12:28] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, that is no comparison to protools
[12:28] <variant> Jon-Doe: you shouldnt have any problem.. setting up wpa can be a pain, but if you dont use it then thats no problem either :)
[12:28] <Juhaz> Jon-Doe, somewhere on the line from "easy as pie" to "nightmare" to "impossible", depending on hardware, the network you're connecting to, and whole slew of other things
[12:28] <compengi> variant: okay then i'm updating through the terminal :)
[12:28] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: sorry, i have never used it so can't really help.. does it run in wine?
[12:28] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, no
[12:28] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: you have tried?
[12:29] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, lol.
[12:29] <Jon-Doe> can i connect it to a windows run network?
[12:29] <compengi> Jon-Doe: sure
[12:29] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: whats funny?
[12:29] <Jon-Doe> cool
[12:29] <variant> Jon-Doe: yes
[12:29] <Jon-Doe> wheres the best place to find drivers?
[12:29] <reaperindeath> so nobody knows where the files in amule download too?
[12:29] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, your questions.
[12:29] <newRunner> is any package listing to see in the web about CD and DVD packages?
[12:30] <compengi> jon-Doe: no need for drivers
[12:30] <Jon-Doe> huh?
[12:30] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: only trying to help you mate, if you find that funny you can go somewhere else with your big head :)
[12:30] <compengi> Jon-Doe: it will auto find them :)
[12:30] <Jon-Doe> ok
[12:30] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, it isnt a big head, I said what I said for a reason - theres no protools for linux.
[12:30] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: you tried ardour?
[12:31] <compengi> Jon-Doe: only for some parts, where you can find help here
[12:31] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I don't really have any idea when it comes to multi track recording so what do you expect?
[12:31] <Jon-Doe> ok
[12:31] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, ive tried a couple of progs, even checked out stuff like cinelerra, but cinelerra is no Avid and nothing in linux comes close to protools
[12:31] <C-O-L-T> I need Alsa 1.0.11 how to get that? I need it for Dapper Drake because of sound issues
[12:31] <Jon-Doe> cheers guys
[12:32] <compengi> variant: Reading package lists... Done
[12:32] <compengi> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:32] <compengi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:32] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: have a look at ardour.. it seems to be quite popular. if you havent allready tried it you might find it usefull
[12:32] <didlo> i am still a newbie in linux, what means wine ?
[12:32] <variant> compengi: you must also have synaptic open or somthing.. close all other software installation programs
[12:32] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, ive looked at it, but with all due respect, I wont be doing any multitrack recording on it
[12:32] <compengi> didlo: it makes exe extensions run on linux
[12:32] <variant> didlo: its a program that allows you to run some windows applications on gnu/linux
[12:32] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: i see
[12:33] <didlo> compengi, variant and how can i install wine ?
[12:33] <variant> didlo: apt-get install wine
[12:33] <didlo> variant and after that i have to do something ?
[12:33] <variant> didlo: the majority of windows software won't run flawlessly under wine but you can get most programs to be functional at the very least
[12:33] <didlo> variant and wine it's only for ubuntu distro or for all distros ?
[12:33] <variant> didlo: its for any distro..
[12:34] <reZo> How do I go about removing a user in CLI in Ubuntu 5.04?
[12:34] <reaperindeath> variant: do you know where amule dowload folder is?
[12:34] <variant> didlo: after installing it you start the windows program by double clicking its exe (under ubuntu that should work) or by writing "wine /path/to/windows/program.exe" on the command line
[12:34] <C-O-L-T> !alsa
[12:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:34] <variant> reaperindeath: .amule/incomeing
[12:35] <variant> reaperindeath: might be .amule/Incoming actualy
[12:35] <variant> reaperindeath: userdel usernamehere
[12:35] <reaperindeath> thats hidden correct
[12:35] <variant> reZo: userdel usernamehere
[12:35] <reZo> variant :)
[12:35] <didlo> variant thanks
[12:36] <variant> reaperindeath: yes, its a hidden file. what i did for my girl friend who also found that annoying was create a symlink with the following command: ln -s ~/.amule/Incoming ~/Downloads
[12:36] <whazilla> high
[12:36] <cwill1> flash 9 on linux!  woooooot!
[12:36] <whazilla> can i ask assist on a laptop localhost issue
[12:36] <variant> reaperindeath: userdel username will deleet the account but not the home dir, run sudo rm -rf /home/usernamehere to delete that also
[12:36] <whazilla> from network manager deleted all local stuff
[12:37] <whazilla> now can't sudo anymore :$
[12:37] <Dextorion> cwill1: :)  trixy or easy?
[12:37] <tarelerulz> I don't want to sound dumb ,but was is cool about flash
[12:37] <variant> whazilla: woops
[12:37] <cwill1> Dextorion: define trixy
[12:37] <variant> tarelerulz: not very much too be honest
[12:37] <Dextorion> ye, i guessed so..   bah
[12:37] <cwill1> Dextorion: disable the old one, and copy the new file into ~/.mozilla/plugins
[12:37] <tarelerulz> I am glad you have it working I know when I get something working I fell like telling the world
[12:37] <cwill1> and restart
[12:37] <variant> whazilla: you will have to boot into a live cd, chroot your hard disk ubuntu install and set up localhost again
[12:38] <Dextorion> cwill1: okaydokay.
[12:39] <Dextorion> where did you get the flash 9 files from btw?
[12:39] <cwill1> Dextorion: one sec
[12:39] <didlo> variant what means .deb ?
[12:39] <tarelerulz> I installed swat with synaptic  and I have looked at the file that are said to start it and it seems to be in those file
[12:39] <cwill1> Dextorion:  http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:39] <Dextorion> didlo: .deb files are install files for debian based distros
[12:39] <variant> didlo: it is the installation file used by ubuntu or debian software
[12:40] <tarelerulz> ,but when I try to access it nothing happens I get error
[12:40] <Dextorion> didlo: or more like: install files that apt runs
[12:40] <variant> didlo: it is simmilar to a self extracting zip in some ways
[12:40] <Administrator> is flash9 already in ubuntu?>
[12:40] <variant> Administrator: doubtfull
[12:40] <Dextorion> Administrator: nah
[12:40] <Administrator> when ?
[12:40] <cwill1> administrator:  it's still a beta
[12:40] <Dextorion> good question :D
[12:41] <Administrator> so not even in edgy?
[12:41] <cwill1> released like two days ago
[12:41] <harmental> how can i convert a png file to a pdf file of the same size?
[12:41] <variant> Administrator: no idea, proprietry software (especially beta release proprietry software) does not get any priority at all
[12:41] <Administrator> can proprietry software be installed on ubuntu computers and sell them?
[12:41] <CyberSlug> If you have a MacBook Pro, do you go for the ppc or the x86 version of Ubuntu?
[12:42] <tarelerulz>  An error occurred while loading http://<IP_ADDRESS>:901/:Could not connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> (port 901).
[12:42] <cwill1> neat, bug already  :)
[12:42] <variant> harmental: there is a program called png2pdf, its not in ubuntu repos though so installing from source is the way to go
[12:42] <constrictor> Administrator: i have been using Flash 9 in Edgy for the past couple of days and i have no problems with it yet
[12:42] <variant> Administrator: if you have a licence from the proprietry software copyright holders and you also comply with the GPL and other licences
[12:43] <variant> constrictor: does it have an intel cpu?
[12:43] <Fuzzy76> I'm using the proprietary ati driver. When enabling composition in xorg.conf, my opengl acceleration disappeared. Anyone know what might be the problem?
[12:43] <cwill1> constrictor: pandora plus gaim doesn't work :)
[12:43] <Administrator> ah so the licenses have to be availble on the computer?
[12:43] <harmental> thx variant.....no easier way?
[12:43] <constrictor> variant: i am on Centrino Duo no problems yet
[12:43] <cwill1> Administrator:  you'd have to download it yourself and install
[12:43] <constrictor> just heard pandora doesn't work though
[12:44] <CyberSlug> Anyone?
[12:44] <variant> Administrator: you must obtain permission from the proprietry software owners. if you dont  include proprietry software then you can sell a linux based box no problem as long as you distribute the source to the gnu gpl licenced software also
[12:44] <constrictor> Cyberslug: i thought macbook pro was now intel?
[12:44] <variant> harmental: it is very easy
[12:45] <variant> harmental: http://png2pdf.sourceforge.net/
[12:45] <cwill1> constrictor: it works, until gaim (at least) takes focus
[12:45] <CyberSlug> constrictor, It is... But I have found conflicting stories... and it seems that it is very hard to set up :S
[12:45] <variant> harmental: you will need build-essential and libpng-dev and pdflib-dev (im just guessing
[12:45] <constrictor> due to the EFI file system?
[12:45] <Adross> whenever I tried to open banshee it lists all my music, says it's starting inotify threats then crashes of a segmentation fault. Any ideas?
[12:46] <variant> Adross: sorry, i don't know banshee
[12:46] <constrictor> Cuberslug: i haven't heard a success stories for ubuntu on macbook pro yet
[12:46] <constrictor> i'll look on the Wiki if i were you
[12:46] <cosmodad> anyone know how to change qt-based application fonts I use in gnome?
[12:46] <CyberSlug> constrictor, :S... Ok... Thanks
[12:46] <CyberSlug> constrictor, Will do
[12:46] <CyberSlug> Thank you everyone - Bye!
[12:46] <variant> CyberSlug: if its a intel cpu, shoul dbe no problem, if its ppc, should be no problem.. there may be bugs that i am not aware of though
[12:46] <constrictor> ;)
[12:48] <variant> harmental: if you need help just let me know
[12:48] <florg> hi, what causes filenames with french accents not to be showed correctly in nautilus? is there any configuration that would solve the problem?
[12:48] <harmental> ok...thx variant
[12:49] <variant> harmental: im off for some food now though so /query me if you do (you will have to be registered and identified to /query me on freenode though)
[12:49] <variant> harmental: /msg nickserve help
[12:49] <constrictor> cwill1: pandora works for me with flash 9
[12:50] <variant> harmental: /msg nickserv help i mean
[12:50] <harmental> thank you....i got it working with OO anyway.....
[12:50] <XVampireX>  @nvdia
[12:50] <XVampireX>  @nvidia
[12:50] <XVampireX> !nvidia
[12:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:51] <variant> harmental: cool, good job
[12:51] <hetauma> I followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse so I would have rw access to ntfs partion. trying to mount the partition manually works just fine. But mounting the partition from fstab doesn't work :( Here is my fstab too http://pastebin.ca/211508  any ideas what's wrong ?
[12:51] <mnepton> XVampireX: the nVidia driver is not a good idea at present
[12:51] <XVampireX> mnepton, Why?
[12:51] <ibob63> I am trying to get pdf printing from firefox on ubuntu. Tried cu-pdf printer but is there another way?
[12:51] <XVampireX> mnepton, it doesn't work for me on edgy, that's what I'm trying to get it to work on :P
[12:56] <mnepton> XVampireX: the nVidia binary blob has a remote root exploit. read the /topic
[12:56] <XVampireX> mnepton, I have no problem with the exploit, I just want things to work.
[12:56] <mnepton> XVampireX: uhhhh ....
[12:56] <mnepton> XVampireX: you have no problem with a random person having root on your machine?
[12:57] <XVampireX> mnepton, I have no problem with that
[12:57] <mnepton> XVampireX: great, make me an account and /msg me the login credentials? >:)
[12:57] <XVampireX> right
[01:02] <josh_> What font on ubuntu mostly resembles arial from windows?
[01:03] <Smotang> arial?
[01:03] <ibob63> josh: you can install the microsoft font set.
[01:03] <josh_> oh ok ty
[01:04] <ibob63> josh: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts cabextract
[01:04] <ibob63> you will need to add all the different repositries
[01:04] <Fuzzy76> Sorry for repeating. I'm using the proprietary ati driver, opengl and all works. But when enabling composition in xorg.conf, my opengl acceleration disappeared. Anyone know what might be the problem?
[01:04] <ibob63> otherwise it might not work
[01:05] <apokryphos> Fuzzy76: 'opengl acceleration'?
[01:05] <berent> Fuzzy76: yup whats opengl acceleration?
[01:05] <apokryphos> Fuzzy76: do you mean direct rendering?
[01:05] <Fuzzy76> the opengl extensions of the driver
[01:06] <Fuzzy76> the opengl screensaver suddenly went into software mode
[01:06] <Fuzzy76> and switching desktops became sluggish
[01:06] <chuckyp> Fuzzy76, glxinfo | grep render
[01:06] <apokryphos> opengl applications will be hardware accelerated if the driver supports fbos/pbuffers (which fglrx does)
[01:07] <nickspoon> Fuzzy76: do you have "RenderAccel" enabled?
[01:07] <chuckyp> Fuzzy76, also xgl support is in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:07] <apokryphos> nickspoon: direct rendering on xgl is impossible to implement at the moment
[01:07] <Fuzzy76> chuckyp : Looks fine, but I've rebooted with composition off.
[01:10] <cypher1_> how do i enable usb headphone
[01:10] <cypher1_> i plugged in but i cannot hear anything
[01:10] <cypher1_> the totem, vlc players are using the normal speakers
[01:10] <boni> can anyone help me to install splash screen??
[01:10] <Fuzzy76> nickspoon : Not explicit. But acceleration is on when the composition mode isn't set in xorg.conf
[01:10] <chuckyp> cypher1, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18926
[01:10] <forsaker> hi guys
[01:10] <Constrictor> boni: google splashy
[01:11] <chuckyp> !splash
[01:11] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[01:11] <forsaker> someone using postgresql?
[01:11] <berent> cypher1 : open volume controls and enable headphones in preferences
[01:12] <chuckyp> cypher1, I'm sure a search in google may yield more relevant results as well.
[01:12] <chuckyp> !ask > forsaker
[01:12] <mmcji> morning
[01:13] <ibob63> does anyone know about pdf printing?
[01:13] <forsaker> chuckyp, my question was if someone uses postgresql :P anyway... I just installed it on my dapper system... and I was wandering wich was the role allowed to create other roles...
[01:14] <cypher1_> berent, i have already enabled it
[01:14] <Constrictor> !login splash
[01:14] <[psy] > (Logquote not found 'n splash')
[01:14] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 2036 kB
[01:14] <bimberi> forsaker: 'sudo su - postgres' (iirc)
[01:14] <Constrictor> !loginsplash
[01:14] <[psy] > (Logquote not found 'nsplash')
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loginsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <compengi> variant: do you know what codecs should i download to make *.mp3 extensions work?
[01:14] <cypher1_> chuckyp, i can see the snd_usb_audio module in lsmod output also
[01:18] <berent> cypher1_: checkout if ur usb device is detected in dmesg
[01:18] <bimberi> !splash
[01:18] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[01:18] <forsaker> bimberi .. I already tried but it says the role 'root' doesn't exist
[01:18] <bimberi> !usplash
[01:18] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:18] <Stalwart> !kernel
[01:18] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:18] <Constrictor> compengi: wiki has answer
[01:18] <boni> thanx
[01:18] <Stalwart> is 7.10 repository open already?
[01:18] <twev> aside from pulling my pc apart, is there anyway to tell if there is any sort of 3d card installed. i know i have nothing in the agp slot, but how about on board
[01:18] <twev> ?
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, I doubt it.
[01:18] <twev> my x.org driver is ati.
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, do you mean edgy?
[01:18] <bimberi> forsaker: hm, i'm not sure about that sorry
[01:18] <mmcji> im setting up a second ubuntu machine inside of a secure lan.  I would like to enable telnet to the box.  The box will never connect to the internet and sending commands and pasword to the box in clear text is readable so i have no need for ssh for this.  When I install the telnetd package, im still getting connection refused.  Netstat also does not list the service listening.  What do i still need to do to enable this?
[01:18] <Stalwart> chuckyp: no, 7.10 - release after edgy (i forgot codename)
[01:18] <forsaker> bimberi, np... thank you anyway :>
[01:18] <chuckyp> mmcji, check out the telnet conf in /etc
[01:18] <compengi> Constrictor: what should i search for?
[01:18] <Constrictor> Stalwart: fiest fawn
[01:18] <mmcji> thanks chuckyp
[01:18] <Stalwart> Constrictor: when? =]
[01:18] <Constrictor> libmp3mad
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, It won't even start to get worked on untill a few weeks after edgy release
[01:18] <Constrictor> libmp3ugly
[01:18] <Samuli^> !edgy
[01:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, and it won't be very much different from edgy at first.
[01:18] <Constrictor> or something of the sort i forget
[01:18] <XVampireX> !multimedia
[01:18] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:18] <boni> could u pls tell me wat should I modify under /apps/gconf-editor??
[01:18] <Stalwart> i need .18 kernel ;[
[01:18] <chuckyp> boni, for what?
[01:18] <catalytic> howdy
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, you could install it
[01:18] <catalytic> what is the command that loads gnome?
[01:19] <Constrictor> Stalwart: i didn't get that when? question
[01:19] <boni> chuckyp: to get the splash screen going??
[01:19] <catalytic> eg xfce4-session starts the xfce
[01:19] <chuckyp> boni, do you want to chang ethe splash for gnome or the first spash you see before you log in?
[01:19] <Stalwart> Constrictor: when fiest will be available?
[01:19] <catalytic> what starts gnome?
[01:19] <chuckyp> catalytic, gdm
[01:19] <boni> the splash screen for gnome
[01:19] <catalytic> ah sweet thanks
[01:19] <Stalwart> chuckyp: are packages available?
[01:19] <chuckyp> !splash > boni
[01:20] <catalytic> er
[01:20] <chuckyp> Stalwart, the source is availible.
[01:20] <catalytic> isnt gdm the login page?
[01:20] <catalytic> that lets you choose different sessions?
[01:20] <chuckyp> Stalwart, may I ask why you need the .18 kernel?
[01:20] <Stalwart> chuckyp: SBS
[01:20] <lander> hola
[01:20] <chuckyp> catalytic, yes.
[01:20] <catalytic> chucky
[01:20] <catalytic> ok
[01:20] <catalytic> thats not what i want
[01:20] <catalytic> i have an xgl session already created
[01:20] <Stalwart> chuckyp: Fucki^W Smart Battery System
[01:20] <catalytic> except the last line is
[01:21] <catalytic> exec xfce4-session
[01:21] <catalytic> but i want to load gnome instaed
[01:21] <Constrictor> !schedule