[00:39] <dick-richardson> I am trying to set up my mythtv box, but I'm in a loop regarding my sql server. Why do I need to have a sql server?
[01:04] <foxbuntu> dick-richardson, MythTV is based on a MySQL DB, it is a required part of the install
[01:08] <dick-richardson> when I run mythtv, I'm getting a fatal error: audio not configure, you need to run mythfrontend
[01:09] <dick-richardson> when I run mythfrontend, I get 'This version of MythTV requires an updated database schema. Please run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to update your database"
[01:10] <dick-richardson> when i run mythbackend, I get "couldn't upgrade database to new schema"
[01:11] <dick-richardson> when i run mythbackend, I get "couldn't upgrade database to new schema"
[01:15] <foxbuntu> dick-richardson, how did you do the MythTV install?
[01:17] <dick-richardson> It had been working after the install...went through the gui installer on the livecd...it stopped working after it kept complaining about the database and I reinstalled it from the command line
[01:23] <MythbuntuGuest02> burned dvd's does not work.. after using mytharchive.. did work before upgrading to new -fixes
[01:24] <MythbuntuGuest02> the player(s) cant read the dvd..
[01:24] <MythbuntuGuest02> i have had fixes all the time and as i said, it worked before with -fixes.
[01:46] <superm1> tritium, i do have a hdhomerun, but i dont have it in the same room as my tv
[01:46] <superm1> so i've not configured lirc for it
[02:55] <tritium> superm1: thanks
[02:56] <tritium> Well, my HDHomeRun appears to have died anyway.  The little red LED on the wall transformer is blinking, and all the LEDs on the face of the box are out.  I did two things today to it: upgraded the firmware, and enabled the IR port.  I wonder which one killed it...
[03:22] <thedarkone> hey all
[03:22] <thedarkone> i just got a new video card
[03:23] <thedarkone> can some one help me set it up
[03:23] <thedarkone> it a nvidia 6200 tc
[03:55] <thedarkone> anyone here
[04:20] <tritium> Greybeard: unbelievable!  I went to dinner, and I came back, and my HDHomeRun power adapter was toast!
[04:22] <tritium> Apparently, a known issue: http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/power/
[04:25] <foxbuntu_vm> tritium, thats really odd on the HDHR power, really awesome of them to just admit it and have an in place procedure for replacing it...too bad though
[04:25] <tritium> foxbuntu_vm: yes, at least they are replacing them.
[04:25] <tritium> (It's still inconvenient.)
[04:28] <foxbuntu_vm> tritium, yeah...still suxor for you
[04:28] <foxbuntu_vm> tritium, I have had mine for quite some time and use it tons without issue, however I do suggest keeping the firmware on it up-to-date (or at least close)
[04:29] <tritium> foxbuntu_vm: I just upgraded the firmware today, as a matter of fact.
[04:30] <foxbuntu_vm> tritium, yeah, I have seen strange things with upgrades in MythTV sometimes causing the HDHR to act strange, but a simple firmware upgrade has always resolved it for me
[04:35] <thedarkone> hey all
[04:35] <thedarkone> anyone help me with this nvidia 6200
[04:35] <thedarkone> ?
[04:37] <tritium> thedarkone: that's a video card, not a tuner card, correct?
[04:38] <thedarkone> yeah
[04:39] <tritium> thedarkone: #ubuntu is probably a more appropriate channel for that question.  What's the problem?
[04:52] <tritium> Isn't "Y" supposed to change tuner cards?
[04:53] <tritium> Now with my HDHomeRun dead, I can't change tuner cards.
[04:55] <tritium> Perhaps that's enough mythtv frustration for one day...
[04:56] <foxbuntu_vm> tritium, you should be able to exit the frontend and reopen it to reset it to use the default tuner card and get off your HDHR
[04:57] <tritium> foxbuntu_vm: the HDHR Tuner 0 _is_ the default
[04:57] <foxbuntu_vm> tritium, also if you restart the backend it will see that the HDHR is offline if you unplug it
[04:57] <tritium> And the "Y" button does nothing.
[04:59] <tritium> Thanks, though, foxbuntu_vm.
[05:04] <foxbuntu_vm> tritium, no problem
[05:27] <Greybeard> sorry to hear about the dead HDHomerun, tritium
[05:28] <tritium> Greybeard: thanks...
[05:29] <Greybeard> it sounds like it's just the wall-wart, not the device itself
[05:29] <Greybeard> if you had another one of the same voltage, you could use it
[05:37] <tritium> I looked.  Nothing with the same voltage, or current for that matter.
[05:37] <tritium> Surprisingly that thing draws 2A at 5V.
[05:38] <DogBoy> radio shack sells replacement ones that have switchable settings and multiple adapter plugs
[05:38] <tritium> I have one -- closest voltage is 4.5V, but it only goes to 1000mA.
[05:38] <superm1> tritium, what was the root cause of that going out?
[05:38] <tritium> superm1: no idea, other than it's common enough for them to have a support page for it.
[05:39] <superm1> tritium, well i think i'll order a new one then
[05:39] <superm1> in case this is gonna happen to me soon enough too
[05:39] <superm1> oh nvm.  i got a "not needed" when i put in my id
[05:39] <tritium> Ah.
[05:39] <tritium> Perhaps yours is of a newer, improved design.
[05:40] <superm1> sorry to hear about yours then
[05:40] <tritium> Thanks!
[05:40] <superm1> well mines among the first that come out
[05:40] <superm1> so yours is the "improved" design :)
[05:40] <tritium> heh
[05:40] <superm1> i'll shoot an email to a few other buddies with these though at least to have them double check theirs'
[05:41] <tritium> Good plan.
[05:44] <mm_202> Hey guys, has anyone here gotten Mythbuntu to work on a VIA EPIA-M board?
[05:45] <tritium> Good night!
[05:45] <superm1> night tritium
[05:45] <tritium> Take care, superm1.
[05:45] <Greybeard> bye
[05:45] <tritium> Night, Greybeard.
[06:00] <peterbecker__> does anyone have experience with getting duplicate inputs from a remote control?
[06:00] <peterbecker__> I've got repeat=0 on all events in .lirc/mythtv (as configured by mythbuntu-control-centre)
[06:01] <peterbecker__> and I've got "repeat_bit 2" in my lircd.conf
[06:01] <peterbecker__> still getting duplicates :(
[06:01] <peterbecker__> terminal window gets single digits, irw gets duplicate events
[06:17] <Greybeard> so, this is a receiver with Linux input subsystem support?
[06:18] <peterbecker__> yes, it's a FusionHDTV Dual with an IR-receiver that appears on my system as /dev/input/event7
[06:19] <peterbecker__> I made a config with irrecord myself
[06:19] <peterbecker__> used dev/input as driver
[06:19] <Greybeard> which lircd driver?
[06:19] <peterbecker__> dev/input
[06:20] <peterbecker__> (sidenote: I have no real clue what I'm doing, I just know how to use Google)
[06:20] <Greybeard> devinput?
[06:20] <peterbecker__> to create the configuration I used "irrecord --driver dev/input --device /dev/input/event7 test.conf"
[06:21] <Greybeard> so, the duplicates aren't a result of the app receiving both a key event and a lirc event?
[06:21] <peterbecker__> same driver is configured in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[06:21] <peterbecker__> I just realised that irw actually shows a repeat count of "00" each time
[06:21] <peterbecker__> so it might be an lirc problem
[06:21] <peterbecker__> I was considering the key event + lirc event
[06:22] <Greybeard> 00 events keep coming as long as you hold down the button?
[06:22] <peterbecker__> but if I remove entries from .lirc/mythtv, the matching function stops working completely
[06:22] <Greybeard> that definitely sounds like a lirc problem, but I don't know if it would be in lircd or what
[06:22] <peterbecker__> no, two 00 events come on each press
[06:22] <Greybeard> oh, exactly two
[06:22] <peterbecker__> yes
[06:22] <peterbecker__> and for all keys I tried
[06:23] <Greybeard> I'm using an MCE receiver, so I haven't tried lirc's "devinput" driver
[06:23] <peterbecker__> maybe I'm using the wrong driver?
[06:23] <Greybeard> I'm not sure
[06:23] <peterbecker__> as I said: I don't really know what I'm doing
[06:23] <peterbecker__> just doing the Google -> try -> repeat
[06:23] <Greybeard> so, MythTV didn't do what you wanted without lirc?
[06:24] <peterbecker__> MythTV works, but without remote
[06:24] <Greybeard> but you said the remote buttons generate characters in the terminal, right?
[06:24] <peterbecker__> first step was using the control centre to configure the remote, but that gives the duplicates
[06:24] <peterbecker__> if you hit digits or up/down while the terminal is active you get single results
[06:25] <Greybeard> so, then those buttons should work for MythTV when lircd isn't running
[06:26] <peterbecker__> ack
[06:26] <Greybeard> but other buttons don't do anything?
[06:26] <peterbecker__> (had to run into the living room to try)
[06:26] <peterbecker__> as far as I can tell only digits and directions work
[06:26] <peterbecker__> in particular the OK button doesn't do anything
[06:26] <Greybeard> but it does generate a lirc event?
[06:27] <peterbecker__> two
[06:27] <Greybeard> ok
[06:27] <peterbecker__> what maps the IR to the keyboard events?
[06:27] <peterbecker__> I thought lirc would do that, too
[06:27] <Greybeard> I was just wondering if you could get by without lirc entirely
[06:27] <Greybeard> the kernel maps buttons to input events like I think
[06:27] <Greybeard> to apps, it's the same as if you hit that key on the keyboard
[06:29] <peterbecker__> I just tried taking the ArrowRight config out of .lirc/mythtv again
[06:29] <peterbecker__> without lirc directions work correctly
[06:29] <peterbecker__> with lirc left is double, right is dead
[06:29] <Greybeard> or with lircd not running
[06:30] <Greybeard> yeah, so if that worked for all buttons, you wouldn't need to mess with lirc at all
[06:30] <peterbecker__> but I don't understand why taking the config out of .lirc/mythtv results in the right direction being dead
[06:30] <peterbecker__> it seems it ignored the key event then, too
[06:30] <Greybeard> oh
[06:30] <peterbecker__> or the event doesn't happen anymore
[06:31] <Greybeard> I didn't quite understand what you were saying
[06:31] <peterbecker__> I commented the lines in .lirc/mythtv for the right arrow
[06:31] <Greybeard> the right button does the same thing as the keyboard right arrow?
[06:31] <peterbecker__> then started mythtv with lircd running
[06:31] <peterbecker__> result: right arrow is dead
[06:31] <peterbecker__> it should do
[06:32] <Greybeard> what happens when you run irw?
[06:32] <Greybeard> if you hit one of the digits for instance, do you get a message from IRW about the lirc event as well as an extra digit in the terminal?
[06:33] <peterbecker__> no, just two irw lines
[06:33] <Greybeard> maybe lircd inhibits the key events from being sent
[06:33] <peterbecker__> it looks that way
[06:33] <peterbecker__> would make sense
[06:33] <Greybeard> that would be useful to avoid duplicate events to the app, but it still doesn't explain your duplicate lirc event problem
[06:34] <peterbecker__> my current theory is that the real problem is the repeat count not increasing
[06:34] <peterbecker__> that seems to stop all logic for handling repeats to fail
[06:34] <peterbecker__> s/stop/cause
[06:45] <peterbecker__> Greybeard: thanks for trying -- I gotta go, will try the forum later
[06:45] <Greybeard> ok
[06:45] <Greybeard> sorry I couldn't help more
[06:46] <peterbecker__> no worries
[06:46] <peterbecker__> cu
[06:46] <Greybeard> I've only used serial and mce_usb lirc drivers
[08:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[08:33] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: The update last week was awful, in case you remember me...
[08:35] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, thats too bad
[08:35] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, did you get it worked out?
[08:35]  * foxbuntu just got back from work
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Yes, but the WAF was at risk ;)
[08:36] <foxbuntu> WAF?
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> First I got bitten by a huge Gutsy->Hardy update bug, with the locales... WAF = Woman Acceptance Factor
[08:36] <foxbuntu> lol
[08:37] <foxbuntu> oh, Im not familar with the locales bug
[08:37] <foxbuntu> odd though, one of the devs is in germany, he's never said anything I remember about it
[08:38] <foxbuntu> sure hope its been resolved in 8.10 then, or going to be
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Next the remote would not work...
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865679
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: It's not mythbuntu specific, and on both my Kubuntu machines this bug did not happen. I upgraded those early though, I think it might be something with 7.10 to 8.04.1 maybe
[08:39] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, that could be
[08:39] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah, thats something in Ubuntu upstream
[08:40] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, what happened with the remote?
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Remote got fixed by some guy here in the channel, he remembered that the config files get overwritten and pointed me to stock ones... Which I tweaked a bit to have the old functionality back...
[08:40] <foxbuntu> oh\
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Well, it was not working, at all... Replaced the configs and was good to go again...
[08:41] <foxbuntu> crap, thats my bad, I forgot that you have to make sure to select custom remote during the upgrade or it overwrites it
[08:41] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, thats by design actually...I need to get that in a Wiki on my site
[08:41] <MilhousePunkRock> lol... Nevermind, I could have made backups of it as well... So now there are only a few minor issues left: 1. vnc does not work, it was not even enabled after the upgrade
[08:42] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah, thats because the VNC package changed from Gutsy to Hardy
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: I enabled it (with mouse and keyboard 1 m away from the TV screen), now the X session will crash as soon as I press a key on the client...
[08:42] <foxbuntu> if you open MCC you should be able to just enable it and give it a password
[08:43] <foxbuntu> hmm
[08:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, the TV screen reminds me of another issue: The resolution was totally wrecked, I had to replace the xorg.conf with the old one...
[08:43] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, what VNC client are you using? (not that it really should matter)
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> KRDC on KDE 3.5.9 that is...
[08:44] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah, are you using an ATI video card?
[08:44] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Nope, NVidia, GeForce 6200 something IIRC
[08:45] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, well I think unless you told it to keep the original rather than the new it would have backed up and replaced your Xorg.conf
[08:45] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: I dont think there was this prompt for the xorg.conf, I remember it for a few other config files...
[08:45] <foxbuntu> then default is nvidia-auto-select which on most TV's the EDID data doesnt come in properly then the resoultion auto selects bad
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> exactly... That also reminds me that I have never ever ever dealt with the overscan of my TV, and gotten used to a small black frame by now...
[08:47] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, nvidia-settings will bring up the tool to change the overscan for the TV
[08:47] <foxbuntu> usually you just need to adjust it 1 - 3% to get rid of the black box
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> The second real issue that exists is with mythlcd, when it's idle in the menu it will display the LCDproc default stuff, "Clients 1 Screen 7" and the heartbeat instead of the clock
[08:48] <foxbuntu> no, thats when the mythlcd isnt connected
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Yeah, I have gotten so far, but I never figured out where to put the xsession.rc or where it was called to get this setting applied every X start
[08:49] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, this is a dedicated MythTV box isnt it?
[08:49] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Well, I thought so. But it will definetely display that when it's idle, and happily continue on the next keypress...
[08:49] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, this is a another Wiki I have every intention of writing, and havent gotten to ;)
[08:50] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, hmm, my box doesnt do that
[08:50] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, you have the Silver (v2) fusion right?
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Dedicated, yes. It always displayed the clock on 7.10 as soon as mythfrontend or mythwelcome was up.
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Right. I doubt it's a hardware issue though, since it will continue with mythlcd when it's not idle
[08:52] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, well, let me check something quick, brb
[08:52] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: OK, time for a coffee refil for me :)
[08:56] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, try this: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/options
[08:57] <foxbuntu> add this line in there: options lirc_imon islcd=0 (if you havent already)
[08:57] <foxbuntu> then: sudo rmmod lirc_imon
[08:57] <foxbuntu> then: sudo modprobe lirc_imon
[08:58] <foxbuntu> then: sudo /etc/init.d/LCDd restart
[08:58] <foxbuntu> then: sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[08:58] <foxbuntu> then: restart the mythtv frontend
[08:59] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, I assume you have already checked the setup inside the frontend for LCD devices
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Welcome back... One moment, I need to turn the mythbox on first...
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: I think I added the first line for the problems with the remote at first, but I will check again
[09:04] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, if its there the rest is not needed
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Yeah, it's there... Oddly enough, right now the machine is idle on the main menu, and displaying the clock
[09:09] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, intresting
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> damnit, I even went to Media --> Recordings blindly, and it still displays the clock...
[09:11] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, as memory serves, its when you roll over onto a recording the display changes
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Well, it does display the menu for a moment (which can be specifies in the settings) before it falls back to the clock
[09:13] <foxbuntu> oh
[09:14] <foxbuntu> perhaps its just some settings need adjusted in the Frontend, afterall, your on MythTV .21 now
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: There it was again: Left mythfrontend, and from mythwelcome I started it again, for a moment it would display the LCDproc screen.
[09:15] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, oh well thats normal
[09:15] <foxbuntu> IIRC Mythfrontend is the process that grabs LCDproc
[09:16] <foxbuntu> and when you exit and restart it it reset its connection to LCDproc
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: But on 0.20 I never saw it again once mythfrontend was started.
[09:16] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, sorry I cant speak for that, I just started dev with the Fusion on .21
[09:17] <foxbuntu> it might be something different for .21
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Ha! I should be in the main menu now, and it also displays ||LCDproc Server| <3 Cli:1 Scr:7 now
[09:17] <foxbuntu> hmm
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> On 0.20 it was cli:0 scr:1 though, but I guess that is because it was only displayed before mythlcd was started...
[09:17] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, you might ask around in the forums or #mythtv-users
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Anyway, it's just a cosmetic issue. More important would be to fix VNC so I can deal with the overscan...
[09:19] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah...
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Right, I totally forgot that this channel is "only" MythBuntu... ;)
[09:19] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, well, to be honest you will find mostly mythbuntu users, but our devs have been around
[09:20] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, I myself have used MythTV on several distros, Knoppix, Gentoo, Fedora
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Another minor issue that I noticed is a mixture of German and English in the menu and the OSD, whereas everything was in German on 0.20
[09:20] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, I would submit a bug related to that against MythTV
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, I shall do that... Translation would even be a thing I could help out with...
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: So any ideas how to get VNC to live?
[09:21] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, we would be glad to have you help out here with that
[09:22] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, what is the output of: sudo dpkg -l | grep vnc
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Though whenever I check for project that I would care to give something back to, the German translation is always in the top 5. Would be better if I was fluent in Klingon or so...
[09:23] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, well, we have added several new apps this release and they will need translating
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Well, but the "You are leaving this recording" screen was perfectly translated before... Though "No, keep it, I changed my mind" makes me laugh a bit... ;)
[09:24] <vtvt> hi
[09:24] <foxbuntu> vtvt, hello
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d6c2a8176
[09:25] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, always fun to see bad translations
[09:25] <vtvt> hope you can spare some time to help me with mythtv problem
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Odd line breaks, sorry..
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> vtvt: Hi...
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> vtvt: We can sure try... :D
[09:26] <vtvt> when i start the backend it asked me to connect to the database iv put in the correct login and pass but still says cannot login to database is there somethign i need to do first?
[09:26] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, np, do this, sudo dpkg -P libvncserver0 vnc4-common vnc4server
[09:27] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, then restart X and give VNC another try
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> vtvt: Did you set the correct hostname IP? That was the reason I could not connect lately...
[09:27] <vtvt> i left it as localhost
[09:28] <MilhousePunkRock> vtvt: Try the real IP
[09:28] <vtvt> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:28] <foxbuntu> vtvt, is this a standalone machine (Frontend and Backend on the same machine?)
[09:29] <vtvt> yep
[09:29] <foxbuntu> vtvt, then localhost should work
[09:29] <vtvt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWG3cR1aq7I this is what happens '' i found this on video when i was googling
[09:30] <foxbuntu> vtvt, pastebin the results of this: sudo tail -n /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[09:30] <foxbuntu> vtvt, oops
[09:30] <foxbuntu> vtvt, pastebin the results of this: sudo tail -n 100 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[09:31] <foxbuntu> !pastebin | vtvt
[09:31] <Zinn> vtvt: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d65332517
[09:34] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, ut oh...I dont know german
[09:34] <foxbuntu> lol
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: It's German though :( "Dependancy problems prevent removal of libvncserver0"
[09:35] <vtvt> hangon
[09:35] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, then leave that one
[09:35] <foxbuntu> just run the smae thing but remove that one
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> x11vnc depends on libvncserver0
[09:35] <foxbuntu> ok
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> next we have MCC depending on vnc4-common
[09:36] <foxbuntu> MCC depends on vnc4-common?
[09:36] <foxbuntu> let me check that
[09:36]  * foxbuntu has the code for MCC
[09:37] <foxbuntu> so it does
[09:37] <foxbuntu> ok well remove just vnc4server then
[09:37] <vtvt> i pasted it
[09:38] <foxbuntu> vtvt, I need the link to it
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Ha, that's not even installed
[09:38] <foxbuntu> really?
[09:38] <foxbuntu> it must have removed it from first run then
[09:39] <vtvt> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m34c8d4fa
[09:39] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, do: sudo dpkg -l | grep vnc
[09:39] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, then see if its listed there anymore
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: libvncserver0, vnc4-common and x11vnc
[09:40] <foxbuntu> vtvt, have you run mythtv-setup yet?
[09:40] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, ok thats better
[09:40] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, try restarting X and retry VNC
[09:40] <vtvt> all i have done is installed the cd
[09:41] <vtvt> and then run the backend
[09:41] <foxbuntu> vtvt, ah you need to run the mythtv-setup to setup the backend before you run the frontend
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: You are my hero! ;)
[09:42] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, nah...remember I broke it ;)
[09:42] <foxbuntu> lol
[09:42] <vtvt> how do i do that is it a command i need to type in the terminal ?
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: So now I have 18 minutes to fix the overscan before my girlfriend wants to watch Ghost Whisperer
[09:43] <foxbuntu> vtvt, you can do it that way, or from the desktop (exit the frontend), Click Applications > System > MythTV Backend Setup
[09:43] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, ok, from terminal on system > nvidia-settings
[09:44] <vtvt> ohh yea thats where i went' thought it was somethign els.e
[09:44] <vtvt> i comes up with the login database and there i cant go any further then that
[09:44] <vtvt> it*
[09:44] <foxbuntu> vtvt, you need to make sure in general the IP in both IP fields are the same, and since its a local system, <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Oh dear... I left mythwelcome without locking the shutdown... 90 seconds was not enough for the 8 updates it had to perform
[09:45] <foxbuntu> vtvt, where did you get the username/password you are using then?
[09:45] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, lol
[09:45] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, guess you wanted to wait for a reboot anyhow right?
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Not in the middle of upgrades
[09:46] <foxbuntu> ut oh
[09:46] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, hope nothing breaks
[09:47] <vtvt> i ran this mythtv command that setup the login and password.
[09:47] <foxbuntu> vtvt, what?
[09:47] <vtvt> reconfig somethign
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: That's what --fix-missing is for... :)
[09:47] <vtvt> its set to root and pass is root
[09:47] <foxbuntu> vtvt, thats the wrong one to use
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:48] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah...at least something isnt seriously broken
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Not that I have anything better to do on a sunday than fixing the MythBox :P
[09:48] <foxbuntu> vtvt, sudo cat /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt from the terminal
[09:49] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, perhaps, but its 4A here
[09:49] <foxbuntu> vtvt, that will give you the correct username/password to the DB
[09:50] <vtvt> it says no such directory
[09:50] <foxbuntu> ?
[09:50] <vtvt> oh wait the init/
[09:53] <vtvt> ok i opened the mysql.txt
[09:53] <foxbuntu> username should be mythtv
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: It even seems that the overscan setting was saved, it was set to 8 already.
[09:54] <vtvt> DBUser = root  pass is root , DBname = mythconverg and DBtype = qmysql3
[09:54] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah...its a session based thing
[09:54] <foxbuntu> vtvt, I think something got screwed up then, the settings are missing from the install
[09:55] <foxbuntu> vtvt, the install will set that stuff by default, and the root account should never be used for application DB's
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Fair enough... I'll leave you alone now. VNC is working again, I will post the lcd issue to the mailing list, and over the week I will figure out how to set up multirec on my own...
[09:56] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, cool, multirec is something that does work here :(
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Have a nice night once you are done helping vtvt..
[09:56] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, thanks, ttyl
[09:57] <foxbuntu> vtvt, I would suggest you just reinstall and dont touch those settings next time
[09:57] <vtvt> :( is there something im suppose to do
[09:57] <vtvt> iv installed it about 4 times
[09:57] <vtvt> went with the default and everything cannot connect
[09:57] <foxbuntu> vtvt, run the setup on the last step of the install and then reboot and dont touch anything else
[09:58] <vtvt> how do i do that.
[09:59] <vtvt> i did this database reconfig command to change it before isthat what i need to od ?
[09:59] <vtvt> do.
[09:59] <foxbuntu> during the install the last page has the link to SD and a button for the setup
[09:59] <foxbuntu> vtvt, no thats how you broke it
[09:59] <vtvt> ok :S .. so am i booting of the cd ?
[10:00] <foxbuntu> yes
[10:00] <vtvt> ok restarting now'
[10:01] <vtvt> its got installed mythbuntu and check cd for updates etc
[10:01] <vtvt> install*
[10:01] <foxbuntu> vtvt, this is the guide on setting things up, ignore anything about starting/stopping mythbackend
[10:01] <foxbuntu> "Install Mythbuntu"
[10:02] <foxbuntu> vtvt, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-setup
[10:02] <foxbuntu> vtvt, ignore this in the wiki: joe@moon> /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop
[10:02] <vtvt> i clicked on install mythbuntu
[10:04] <vtvt> do i go to load installer components from cd?
[10:04] <foxbuntu> what?
[10:04] <foxbuntu> it should just start the installer
[10:05] <foxbuntu> what version of the CD are you using?
[10:07]  * MilhousePunkRock is back already...
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Overscan did not last a reboot :(
[10:09] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah, I forget what the option is to make it persistant
[10:09] <foxbuntu> google for it
[10:09] <foxbuntu> nvidia-settings is session based, meaning its only while you are logged in
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Another thing I thought about, now that I can use my laptop as a frontend and the backend's frontend is configured to skip mythwelcome if turned on manually, how will the backend shut down if the remote frontend is disconnected? (If that makes sense)
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Unless I set up wake-on-lan for the backend...
[10:11] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, hmm, Im not sure, but IIRC there are some options for that in the Frontend and the Backend
[10:13] <vtvtvt> hi foxbuntu  my area has no power im on dailup thanks for your hope i cant do much with out power im on laptop on dail up :S
[10:13] <vtvtvt> power cut stinks....
[10:13] <foxbuntu> vtvtvt, yeah...thats too bad
[10:13] <foxbuntu> vtvtvt, check back with folks then later and that wiki for more help
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: It's of lower importance anyway, we watch "remotely" maybe once a week. I will dig into the options and until that, I will just have to exit mythfrontend on the main machine when we watch on the laptop
[10:15] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, yeah...too bad electricity is so expensive over there, otherwise you could just leave it on like I do :)
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: I would not, it's not only a money issue... Also the box is still a bit noisy, need to replace that ancient 80 GB harddrive
[10:17] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, alright well...I think I am going to sleep now, gl, stop back and catch me if needed
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> foxbuntu: Alright, thanks for the support again, most likely I'll see you next sunday (my sunday)..
[10:21] <foxbuntu> MilhousePunkRock, indeed as I work into the wee hours of Sunday Mornings/Sat nights
[10:25]  * MilhousePunkRock is out, enjoy your Sunday everyone!
[12:06] <egyn> moin, i'm building a htpc. i have no dvd at the moment. does a resource on the net exist where one legally can download sound which is recorded in different setups (such as example music in 2.0/5.1/7.1)?
[12:06] <egyn> so that i can test if my surround/soundcard is working
[12:39] <egyn> I found some at http://www.lynnemusic.com/surround.html.
[15:18] <ahave> can someone help me fix my audio issue with mythdvd? i am not receiving the main audio signal, but i do get the background tracks.. any ideas?
[17:23] <arocs> Hi ... Someone experienced with mythbuntu and suspend to ram mode ...?
[17:24] <arocs> I am able to suspend from mce remote , but when restarting mythtv watch tv is not working
[17:24] <arocs> mythtv works with videos ... but no tv
[17:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> arocs: check the logs for errors?
[17:26] <arocs> let's see
[17:26] <superm1> arocs, you have to restart lirc and mythfrontend i believe
[17:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> maybe your modules for the capture card need to be reloaded or something
[17:27] <arocs> how can i reload mythtv and modules after suspend ?
[17:27] <superm1> arocs, well lets see...
[17:27] <superm1> for starters, figure out which part really needs to be reloaded
[17:28] <superm1> so after you resume, start irw
[17:28] <superm1> and see if you can capture some stuff on the remote
[17:28] <superm1> if not, then try to restart lirc service (/etc/init.d/lirc restart) and run irw again to capture
[17:28] <arocs> The remote works ok
[17:28] <arocs> The mythtv has the menu working and also videos ...
[17:29] <superm1> all of this?
[17:29] <superm1> wow.
[17:29] <arocs> Problem is the tv-card
[17:29] <superm1> last time i tried to suspend with lirc running, it flipped a shit
[17:29] <superm1> okay so for the tv card....
[17:29] <superm1> try to restart mythbackend after the resume
[17:29] <superm1> and see if that fixes it
[17:29] <arocs> ok
[17:29] <superm1> if not, then you'll have to unload tv card modules, reload and restart mythbackend
[17:30] <arocs> ok
[17:31] <arocs> i will try
[17:31] <arocs> another question ... about brightness and contrast ...
[17:31] <arocs> in mythtv is possible to adjust it ...?
[17:32] <arocs> i try the key F while playing dvb-t but is only possible to adjust volume ... ;(
[17:33] <superm1> it's possible sometimes directly on the graphics card's control panel
[17:33] <superm1> also mythtv has some options supported on some cards
[17:34] <arocs> thanks
[17:34] <arocs> nad what about screen modes ... in dvb-t 4:3 and a LCD TV 16:9 .. what are the settings that you are using ?
[17:35] <arocs> i try half and 14:x mode ... because if not i get some strange artifacts in the topof the screen ...
[17:38] <superm1> VBI data probably
[17:38] <superm1> that's normal like a line of black and white
[17:38] <superm1> at the top
[17:38] <arocs> yes
[17:38] <superm1> yeah it's part of the stream
[17:38] <superm1> normally tvs will overscan it out
[17:38] <superm1> but you are seeing more of the picture in the recording
[17:39] <arocs> it is possible to avoid ?
[17:39] <superm1> i leave the aspect ratios alone (defaults).  when i watch a "letterboxed" show, then i adjust the fill settings
[17:39] <superm1> hit the menu key and you can change them on a per show basis
[17:41] <arocs> thanks
[18:55] <ahave> would someone mind reviewing this and tell me if warnings like line#11 are normal?  http://rafb.net/p/D23v9C49.html
[18:55] <ahave> I am having issues with mythvideo not playing the main soundtrack on dvd playback
[19:00] <liri> hey guys
[19:03] <liri> I just installed mythbuntu (8.04.1) and I configured tv out (enabled) but I don't see any video output on a TV-Out or on a VGA output connection
[19:04] <liri> is there a way to reconfigure this setting? I'd hate to have to re-install just to test which option is for the right one
[19:06] <darthanubis> there is always a better option than a reinstall
[19:06] <darthanubis> I don't use TV-ouot so I can't help you with this one
[19:06] <liri> it's not just TV-Out though
[19:07] <superm1> liri, tv out means svideo or component
[19:07] <liri> even when I got my VGA CRT screen connected I don't see anything
[19:07] <superm1> you picked one of those during install
[19:07] <superm1> and it disables other outputs
[19:07] <liri> superm1: yes, I chose SVideo
[19:07] <superm1> then it *should* be on svideo :)
[19:07] <liri> superm1: fine, but even on the SVideo I don't see anything.
[19:07] <superm1> you can tweak with the xorg.conf at this point
[19:07] <superm1> choose recovery mode on bootup
[19:07] <superm1> at the grub menu
[19:07] <liri> err
[19:07] <superm1> and then look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what went wrong
[19:07] <liri> any easier way?
[19:07] <superm1> reinstall
[19:08] <superm1> without a gui, not much else to do
[19:08] <liri> there's no console configuration tool to reset output options?
[19:11] <superm1> that's whta recovery mode is
[19:11] <liri> I'll check it in a min. are there sample xorg.conf files maybe?
[19:15] <mnk0> hey sup
[19:15] <mnk0> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[19:15] <mnk0> im still having no luck setting up this video card .. any tips??
[19:20] <laga> yes
[19:20] <laga> ask a real question :)
[19:37] <abarbaccia1> hey do u ever get the gnome-panel bars over mythfrontend?
[19:38] <laga> no. because i don't use gnome ;)
[19:38] <abarbaccia1> hahaha
[19:38] <abarbaccia1> that's one solution
[19:46] <pteague> how can i get mythtv to run in a window instead of eating up my entire screen?
[19:46] <pteague> nm
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> pteague, there is an option in the frontend setup, general setup I believe, which will allow you to run in a window and to set the amout of screen that it takes up
[19:47] <pteague> ah, ok...  i got it to run in window, but it's still taking up the full screen
[19:50] <pteague> there we go :)
[19:50] <pteague> any idea which theme is pretty light weight? as far as resources?
[19:55] <laga> iulius
[19:55] <tgm4883_laptop> no idea
[19:56] <tgm4883_laptop> GANT maybe?
[19:56] <laga> iulius.
[19:56] <laga> 20:38 < Falballa> laga: 'ram' could be (#1) 1600x1200: Iulius: 51M, blue: 81M, mythcenter: 120M, Retro und GANT: 215M, Titivillus: 260M, blootube: 299M, ProjectGrayhem: 300M, or (#2) 1920x1080 #3506: mythcenter-wide: 87m (168M, 48%), minimalist-wide: 103m (118m, 13%), blootubelite-wide: 106m (205m, 48%), neon-wide: 118m (248m, 52%),
[19:56] <laga>  ProjectGrayhem-wie: 138m (229m, 40%), MePo-wide: 176m (221m, 20%),  blootube-wide: 233m (531m,
[19:57] <foxbuntu> laga, do you just have magic convo logs on every subject?
[19:59] <foxbuntu> ?
[19:59] <foxbuntu> ?
[20:00] <foxbuntu> ;)
[20:15] <superm1> missing mythbuntu theme?
[20:25] <laga> yes
[20:25] <laga> superm1: janneg made that some time ago
[20:31] <liri> which folder should I put video files for the video media library to search for it?
[20:37] <DGMurdockIII> what tv tuner shold i get
[20:38] <foxbuntu> liri, the default is /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[20:38] <DGMurdockIII> i need the the red white yello connection on it
[20:38] <DGMurdockIII> and would like it to have fm tuner as well
[20:39] <foxbuntu> DGMurdockIII, the PVR-150 is a good tuner
[20:41] <liri> foxbuntu: yep, found it on the configuration screen
[20:42] <liri> any chance someone could point me to a working TV-Out setup for nvidia?
[20:44] <foxbuntu> liri, actually, what kind of TV out is it?
[20:45] <foxbuntu> svid? comp
[20:45] <foxbuntu> ?
[20:48] <DGMurdockIII> ty
[20:59] <liri> foxbuntu: svideo
[20:59] <liri> foxbuntu: the card is a old, it's a Geforce2 MX/MX 400
[20:59] <foxbuntu> liri, many times if you plug in the svid only to the TV and restart X it will setup the TV out
[21:01] <liri> foxbuntu: I actually managed to get tvout working like 2 minutes ago (I'll post the config) but it complained about low-graphics mode and so the frontend starts and I'm able to view pictures but it won't play videos. Says "loading..." but just hangs there until I press ESC and it quits back to the video browser
[21:01] <liri> foxbuntu: I tested that video file when it was connected to a CRT and it played fine so it's something with the video driver or some other setting
[21:02] <foxbuntu> liri, its how you have your Monitor (TV) setup in your Xorg I would think
[21:03] <liri> foxbuntu: would you take a look please? http://pastebin.ca/1176418
[21:04] <foxbuntu> liri, sorry I cant atm sorry
[21:06] <liri> foxbuntu: how do I check if a certain video driver for xorg is installed (like the nvidia driver)
[21:16] <liri> ahh
[21:17] <liri> I think it used the vesa driver, that's all
[21:17] <liri> I'll have to see how to install the binary nvidia driver
[21:19] <superm1> apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[21:19] <superm1> i believe for that card
[21:22] <liri> actually it lists for the nvidia-glx driver
[21:24] <liri> is there any known special configuration required after installing it except than adjusting xorg.conf?
[21:31] <liri> no luck playing video even with the nvidia-glx driver installed
[21:37] <liri> uhm, maybe it's mplayer's fault, it's playing with -vo xv
[21:41] <liri> no wonder, xvinfo says "no adaptors present"
[21:41] <superm1> your card is supported by the legacy variant
[21:41] <superm1> not the normal variant typically
[21:42] <liri> which means?
[21:42] <superm1> install the right variant of the driver
[21:42] <superm1> the package is called nvidia-glx-legacy
[21:45] <liri> superm1: this website says that the Geforce 2 MX/MX400 is under the normal nvidia-glx driver though: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/appendix-a.html
[21:45] <superm1> that's a bit surprising tbh....
[21:46] <superm1> liri, but okay if it says so :)
[21:46] <tgm4883_laptop> um
[21:46] <tgm4883_laptop> no it doesn't
[21:46] <tgm4883_laptop> Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.
[21:46] <tgm4883_laptop> The 96.43.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
[21:46] <tgm4883_laptop> NVIDIA GPU product 	Device PCI ID
[21:46] <tgm4883_laptop> GeForce2 MX/MX 400 	0x0110
[21:46] <liri> ?
[21:46] <superm1> oh yeah see....
[21:46] <tgm4883_laptop> unless im missing something
[21:47] <liri> that GeForce2 MX/MX 400 is what I have, so it's in the 96.43 driver which is the nvidia-glx
[21:48] <liri> look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:50] <superm1> your right.  i'm used to the naming scheme in intrepid - which there are two legacy drivers
[21:50] <superm1> so look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if it loaded properly
[21:50] <superm1> or what's happening
[22:01] <liri> ugh, I'm tired of it already
[22:19] <Stemming78> Needing assistance setting up my Mythbox;  running the Install Disk v8.04.1 and need guidence
[22:21] <tgm4883_laptop> !manual | Stemming78
[22:21] <Zinn> Stemming78: http://mythbuntu.org/installation_manual
[22:21] <Stemming78> Using a 7200 AGP card; Component Connection w/ 1080p output.  Just ran setup and god blank screen upon reboot.
[22:22] <Stemming78> Sellected that option at end.  Should I change the driver or wait until after setup is complete?
[22:30] <Stemming78> FRESH INSTALLATION:  Should I enable TV-OUT during installation (Component HD1080p) or use MCC upon reboot?
[23:02] <Stemming78> Not getting any video output after a fresh installation.  Using a new video card; Nvidia e-GeForce 7600 GT AGP card....  I selected the "Nvidia-new" driver during setup...  Have monitor connected DVI.  Any suggestions?
[23:04] <Stemming78> BUMP ~ Not getting any video output after a fresh installation.  Using a new video card; Nvidia e-GeForce 7600 GT AGP card....  I selected the "Nvidia-new" driver during setup...  Have monitor connected DVI.  Any suggestions?
[23:14] <Stemming78> I tried a DVI and VGA connection; both having the same results (black screen after reboot).  Is there a known issue with the proprietary driver? Also, any known possible work-arrounds?
[23:16] <Stemming78> ***Monitor goes blank afer boot...  Have video until MythBuntu is loaded.
[23:20] <alexvd_> hello has anyone had an issue with mythbuntu 7.10 where periodically you lose audio in mythvideo only with mplayer.  The internal player works fine?  Outputting all audio over spdif.
[23:51] <Stemming78> Did a FRESH install once again. This time I didnt use the Restricted Drivers and video is working...  Any suggestions as to how I need to go about getting the driver installed correctly --> failed to locate anything pertaining to this in the forums...  THANKS!!!


[03:08] <Noskcaj> why doesn't #ubuntu-powerpc have a logbot/ubot?
[03:38] <hyperair> is that an official channel?
[03:38] <holstein> hyperair: thats what i /j'd to try and figure out.. it might not be any more
[03:39] <hyperair> holstein: judging from the access list, i don't think it was ever an official channel.
[03:39] <holstein> hyperair: that could be the case too
[03:39] <hyperair> founder-level access is with Nalioth, and there's *!*@ubuntu/member/*    +Aiotv [modified ? ago]
[03:40] <hyperair> all ubuntu members are operators?
[03:40] <TheLordOfTime> some channels have members access
[03:41] <TheLordOfTime> i've seen a few with it.
[03:41] <TheLordOfTime> usually members don't actually bother to op up, unless they care enough to do something.
[03:41] <hyperair> i see.
[03:43] <IdleOne> for a lubotu email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:45] <jussi> IdleOne: no
[03:45] <jussi> lubotu1: is hosted on the same server as ubottu ;)
[03:45] <IdleOne> no?
[03:45] <IdleOne> ok, never mind me
[03:45] <jussi> for ubuntulog you should emailt rt
[03:46] <IdleOne> right! that is what I meant
[03:46] <jussi> hehe
[15:24] <TheLordOfTime> can someone do me a favor (IRCC) and go into #ubuntuforums and banforward a broken client to ##fix_your_connection?
[17:39] <nhandler> TheLordOfTime: Did the broken client get sorted out?
[17:39] <TheLordOfTime> yes, just prior to erry and Pricey hopping into the channel
[17:39]  * TheLordOfTime called on #freenode for help.
[17:39] <nhandler> :)
[17:40] <TheLordOfTime> both are still there though in case something happens again
[17:41] <TheLordOfTime> who dicates ops in there, forums council?
[17:41] <TheLordOfTime> or IRCC
[17:41] <AlanBell> technically I think it is outside of our namespace
[17:41] <Pricey> Pretty sure forums mods get +o in there.
[17:41] <Pricey> At least mine's been taken away since I stepped down ;-)
[17:42] <TheLordOfTime> hmm, apparently one of the forum mods are ever *ALIVE* so...
[17:42] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, if its outside of IRCC, why's UbuntuIRCCouncil on the ACL
[17:42] <TheLordOfTime> [10:23:39] -ChanServ- 7     UbuntuIrcCouncil       +ARfiorstv (co-founder) [modified 3 years, 6 weeks, 5 days, 17:30:08 ago] <-- from Chanserv for #ubuntuforums
[17:43] <AlanBell> that is a reasonable question, presumably someone put it there
[17:43] <AlanBell> it all seems harmless enough
[17:43] <TheLordOfTime> indeed, although its highly offtopic, all support non-forums related is sent to #Ubuntu, and otherwise its idle chat :P
[17:44] <TheLordOfTime> s/idle/offtopicish/
[17:44] <TheLordOfTime> still the question is: is it under IRCC or not :p
[17:44] <IdleOne> #ubuntuforums is one of the specially named *buntu channels that aiui is part of the namespace
[17:44] <AlanBell> as I understand it that is a bit of a collaborative area for the forums moderators, and somewhere that was used for discussing the fact that the forums were down for a while
[17:44] <TheLordOfTime> it was opened up to everyone i think semi-recently
[17:45] <Pricey> Is there a problem?
[17:45] <AlanBell> yeah, it might be one of our additional namespace names, don't think it matters greatly though
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> Pricey, nope, just discussion of whether #ubuntuforums is IRCC maintained or not afiact.
[17:45] <Pricey> #ubuntuforums has never been closed TheLordOfTime? Or are you talking about another channel?
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> Pricey, lanBell> as I understand it that is a bit of a collaborative area for the forums moderators, and somewhere that was used for discussing the fact that the forums were down for a while
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> stupid xchat
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> Pricey, was responding to AlanBell
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> Pricey, unless you know more info than I
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> the question i had was whether it was ever IRCC maintained, and whether IRCC has governance, in this case it apparently seems so
[17:46] <Unit193> They do have a staff/mod only channel.
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> not sure how we got onto this discussion...
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> that i'm aware of, and it is secured.
[17:46] <IdleOne> I would say that the forums council has jurisdiction but ultimately the IRCC > CC has "control"
[17:48] <nothingspecial> that is how I always understood it
[17:48] <IdleOne> Seems the Ubuntu way of doing things :)
[17:48] <nothingspecial> :)
[17:49] <IdleOne> it makes sense that the forum council would have the UbuntuIRC account in the ACL, seeing how forum people may not always be very IRC savy.
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.  there's also the times where they go horridly inactive.
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> and then there's no moderators.
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> which is probably why *!*@freenode/staff/* is on there
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> might be something forum council should discuss "What to do when IRC moderators are inactive"
[17:52] <IdleOne> The recommended way to set up any *buntu channel is to add  freenode staff and the IRCC to ACL. Asking why that is IMHO is silly.
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> IdleOne, that wasn't ever my question?
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> :/
[17:52] <IdleOne> I didn't say it was. I was just saying.
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> true.
[17:55] <nothingspecial> add it to the forum council agenda TheLordOfTime
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> nothingspecial, link?
[17:55] <nothingspecial> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> thanks
[17:56] <nothingspecial> You may want to discuss it with elfy, since he's on the council TheLordOfTime
[17:56] <Pricey> Add what?
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> Pricey, discussion item on FC agenda
[17:57] <IdleOne> lol, yeah that ^
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> nothingspecial, if/when Elfy wakes up... :p;
[17:57] <nothingspecial> :p
[17:58] <nothingspecial> any way, I only opened the laptop lid to look at google maps before I went out
[17:58] <nothingspecial> happy new year
[17:58] <IdleOne> Same to you nothingspecial :)
[18:07] <TheLordOfTime> nothingspecial, happy new year!
[18:18] <elfy> TheLordOfTime: elfy is always awake and usually at the end of a ping ;)
[18:18] <elfy> just so you know in future - I've not been in #ubuntuforums much of late is all
[18:19] <IdleOne> hehe, even when not in the channel elfy still sees all
[18:19]  * IdleOne minds his P's and Q's from now on
[18:20] <elfy> :)
[18:20] <IdleOne> suppose I should also dot my T's and cross my I's too
[18:20] <IdleOne> see watideddar
[18:20] <elfy> I tend to just poke my I's
[18:21] <elfy> anyway - wandering off again, cracking job you lot do when called upon
[18:21] <elfy> happy new year to all
[19:03] <TheLordOfTime> curiousity has piqued my interest: do the floodbots autorespond to join-then-quit/broken-client floods?
[19:03] <TheLordOfTime> other than netsplits.
[19:12] <IdleOne> not specifically, but sometimes they do get a little confused
[19:37] <Tm_T> hmmm, coffee and coke mixed <3
[19:37] <TheLordOfTime> i hope you mean the soda
[19:37] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[19:37] <Tm_T> yes
[19:37]  * TheLordOfTime had to have a friend's party raided by police because of $illicit_drugs
[21:18] <TheLordOfTime> ignore
[21:18] <TheLordOfTime> Celene_away, stop testing random triggers that ping IRCC
[22:49] <Unit193> Xchat/Hexchat OPs:  Do you use chanserv.py from https://github.com/seveas/chanserv.py or http://kaarsemaker.net/downloads/code/chanserv.py ?
[23:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: can't see the kaarsemaker one


 Everything is accounted for now, including structure, without static manifest documents.
[15:04] <urbanape> TODO: Finish up _changes polling, and dispatching behavior for various types (bookmarks, folders, separators, livemarks containers, dynamic containers) and event handlers.
[15:05] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:05] <urbanape> aquarius: europe
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: finish putting together music store screenshots for review; talk to kenvandine about packaging
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: talk to pfibiger about daemon deployment; spec file delivery downloader daemon; have music library page send message to downloader daemon; make workitems of outstanding todo items; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED:
[15:05] <aquarius> CardinalFang in da hizzouse
[15:05] <CardinalFang> DONE: Investigating notes server subsequent-revision idioms.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> TODO: More work on notes revisions.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: So far, no good way to map note-revisions to couchdb-revisions.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> mic to jblount, yo.
[15:05] <jblount> Check 1, Check 2
[15:05] <jblount> DONE: Got weirdness on my local setup sorted (thanks statik !)
[15:05] <jblount> TODO: Merge in jamesh's public links branch, get it rocking with the ui I was working on. Push some changes to zed to help get that rolling.
[15:05] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:05] <jblount> vds: YOU!
[15:07] <vds> DONE: helped statik to sync iphone with local funambol server,  gone trough some funambol docs, gone trough logging problem
[15:07] <vds> TODO: finish this branch to setup funambol to send sms messages
[15:07] <vds> BLOCKED: I'm still waiting for the funambol support guys to answer to the ticket I've filed, but I have some more docs to read in the meanwhile
[15:12] <jblount> I think that leaves us EOM for now, thanks everyone!
[16:38] <rtgz> have I missed something?
[16:47] <jblount> rtgz: I don't think so :)
[16:47] <rtgz> jblount, too silent here, something is definitely wrong :)
[16:50] <jblount> rtgz: It's possible everyone is still recovering from holiday, but something could be wrong. I blame alien abduction ;)
[17:22] <phxheat1> My U1 has never worked and this could be the answer. Read #6 on this page. I don't have a "Ubuntu One token" folder I only have one folder that says "Passwords:login". If this is the case I need to probably reinstall to get the option for a key. If this works I'll go into the forum and post my fix and to check the encryption keys. Will someone double check me and do #6 to confirm the folder https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-cli
[17:32] <verterok> phxheat1: when you start the client it should open firefox to do the authorization
[17:46] <phxheat1> FF opens and allows me to login to the cloud and I have a cloud icon with a explanation mark, I guess thats what you mean by authorization
[17:48] <phxheat1> #6 says to delete the Ubuntu One token which I don't have, do you have one?
[17:55] <phxheat1> When I launched U1 in 9.10 there was something about a key, it may have been a yes/no option, I can't remember, but if I picked no then maybe theats where I screwed up, not sure
[18:03] <phxheat1> .cache/ubuntuone/log  shows  ERROR - Can't get the auth token
[18:16] <verterok> phxheat1: so, you don't have the token in the keyring
[18:17] <phxheat1> think I should uninstall and reinstall to get it?
[18:17] <verterok> phxheat1: the client/applet should be requesting the token and opening a firefox tab/window so you sign in with your credentials
[18:17] <verterok> phxheat1: no, you probably need to check if there is some other Ubuntu One token in your keyring
[18:18] <phxheat1> how do I check
[18:18] <verterok> go to Applications ---> Accesories --> passwords & encryption
[18:19] <phxheat1> I have one folder called Passwords: login
[18:19] <verterok> phxheat1: yes, expand that tree
[18:20] <verterok> phxheat1: looks for an entry: "Ubuntu One token for.."
[18:20] <verterok> *look
[18:20] <verterok> phxheat1: also for "Desktop Couch user authentication"
[18:21] <phxheat1> I got a popup I don't know what to do with
[18:21] <phxheat1> Its a Keyring  Help Close
[18:21] <verterok> phxheat1: close it, right click on de entry and delete
[18:22] <phxheat1> you want me to delete Passwords: login ???
[18:22] <verterok> phxheat1: no
[18:23] <phxheat1> thats the only folder i show in the Passwords tab
[18:23] <verterok> phxheat1: click on the ">" to expand the password
[18:23] <verterok> phxheat1: there you will see a list of passwords, look for "Ubuntu One..." and "Desktop Couch..."
[18:24] <phxheat1> cant get the folder to expand
[18:24] <phxheat1> maybe I need to Unlock its in the option
[18:25] <verterok> phxheat1: probably
[18:28] <phxheat1> all i see is a popup that says  Name: login  and Created: 2009-10-31
[18:28] <verterok> phxheat1: that's when you double click on it
[18:29] <verterok> phxheat1: don't double click, click on the ">" icon on the left
[18:30] <phxheat1> i don't see ">" symbol
[18:32] <verterok> phxheat1: http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/8x799uw/screenshot_005.png
[18:33] <verterok> phxheat1: you don't have the ">" icong between the folder icon and the "Passwords: login" text?
[18:34] <phxheat1> I don't have that expand arrow, I got some vertical dots
[18:34] <verterok> phxheat1: ok, so you keyring is empty
[18:35] <verterok> phxheat1: could you paste the contents of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log to paste.ubuntuone.com ?
[18:35] <verterok> or your pastebin of choice :)
[18:37] <phxheat1> I don't know how to open paste.ubuntone.com
[18:37] <verterok> phxheat1: sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:38] <phxheat1> standby
[18:42] <phxheat1> i pasted
[18:44] <verterok> phxheat1: could you paste the url to the channel?
[18:44] <phxheat1> ???
[18:45] <phxheat1> give me a example
[18:45] <verterok> phxheat1: after you pasted the text in paste.ubuntu.com it change the URL in your browser
[18:46] <verterok> phxheat1: e.g: http://paste.ubuntu.com/352459/
[18:46] <phxheat1> i see, thats it
[18:47] <phxheat1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352456/
[18:47] <verterok> thanks
[18:49] <verterok> phxheat1: I don't see any errors, please open a terminal and execute: xdg-open https://ubuntuone.com
[18:49] <verterok> to check if the browser windows is opened ok
[18:50] <phxheat1> browser opened to login
[18:51] <phxheat1> you want me to go ahead and sign in?
[18:52] <verterok> phxheat1: no need to, thanks
[18:52] <verterok> phxheat1: so, if you quit the client, right click on the applet -> quit
[18:53] <phxheat1> OK I quit
[18:53] <verterok> phxheat1: now in a terminal run: ps aux | grep ubuntuone
[18:54] <verterok> phxheat1: and check the list is empty
[18:55] <phxheat1> I see 4 lines of stuff
[18:55] <verterok> could you paste the to paste.ubuntu.com?
[18:55] <verterok> s/the/it/
[18:59] <phxheat1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352466/
[19:00] <verterok> phxheat1: in a terminal, execute: kill -TERM 7102
[19:00] <verterok> phxheat1: that will quit syncdaemon
[19:00] <verterok> phxheat1: and check if it's actually terminated running: ps aux | grep ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[19:01] <phxheat1> It show one line
[19:02] <verterok> phxheat1: ok
[19:02] <verterok> phxheat1: now start the ubuntu one client
[19:03] <phxheat1> it launched with login window
[19:03] <verterok> so it opened the browser?
[19:03] <phxheat1> yes
[19:04] <verterok> login and that should create a token in the keyring (inside password: login)
[19:07] <phxheat1> I still show the dotted lines no arrow unless i need to refresh
[19:25] <verterok> phxheat1: did the client connected now?
[19:26] <phxheat1> it shows disconneted and when i click connect it still reads disconnected
[19:28] <phxheat1> I changed one of my test files and clicked Connecting and the cloud icon says Updating files
[19:29] <verterok> phxheat1: hmm, could you pastebin the contents of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log?
[19:29] <verterok> phxheat1: so it's connected?
[19:30] <phxheat1> when i mouse over the cloud icon it says Updating files with the explanation mark
[19:31] <phxheat1> standby ill send ya the log
[19:33] <verterok> phxheat1: ok, thanks
[19:33] <phxheat1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352481/
[19:36] <verterok> phxheat1: so you still don't have a token :(
[19:36] <verterok> phxheat1: are you behind a proxy?
[19:36] <phxheat1> no
[19:36] <verterok> phxheat1: also, could you pastebin ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log again?
[19:36] <phxheat1> just a router
[19:37] <phxheat1> standby
[19:39] <phxheat1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/352485/
[19:43] <verterok> phxheat1: hmm, that's weird, no errors at all :(
[19:43] <verterok> phxheat1: please quit the client and in a terminal execute: ubuntuone-client-applet
[19:45] <phxheat1> it opened my browser and im in the cloud
[19:45] <verterok> phxheat1: ok, login, etc
[19:46] <verterok> phxheat1: and check if there is any output in the terminal
[19:49] <phxheat1> I was already logged in I need to quite it to get to the login screen
[19:50] <verterok> phxheat1: no need to get the login screen
[19:50] <verterok> you need to authorize the computer, if you are already logged in, it's ok
[19:51] <phxheat1> i relaunched U1 and am in the cloud and terminal didn't do anything
[19:51] <verterok> phxheat1: and you authorized your machine?
[19:52] <phxheat1> Im at the Confirm Computer Access and I see its name
[19:53] <verterok> phxheat1: ok, grant access
[19:54] <phxheat1> never heard that! I just click on the Files tab and im in...right
[19:55] <phxheat1> The only button under my puters name is Add This Computer, I don't know what grant access is
[19:56] <verterok> phxheat1: sorry, add your computer
[19:58] <phxheat1> I never don that maybe only once to get my puter listed, I don't need to add it again do I?
[19:58] <phxheat1> Ill click anyhow
[19:59] <verterok> phxheat1: as you don't have a token in your keyring, you computer isn't authorized to access the server
[20:00] <verterok> phxheat1: you need to click in order to get the token
[20:01] <phxheat1> I clicked it and my passwords and encryption Passwords still has the vert dots (nothing added) no >
[20:02] <verterok> phxheat1: anything in the console?
[20:02] <verterok> console/terminal
[20:02] <phxheat1> terminal is just blinking at the prompt
[20:03] <verterok> phxheat1: ok, I have no idea what might be going wrong :(
[20:03] <verterok> aquarius: around?
[20:04] <verterok> phxheat1: would you mind to file a bug about this problem?
[20:04] <phxheat1> I did a while ago
[20:05] <verterok> phxheat1: hmm, do you have the bug number at hand?
[20:05] <phxheat1> standby
[20:07] <phxheat1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/487942
[20:10] <verterok> phxheat1: this is a different problem
[20:10] <verterok> phxheat1: for some reason you'r not getting the token
[20:10] <verterok> phxheat1: please try to authorize the client again (add you computer), just in case
[20:17] <phxheat1> it just started working. I have a cloud with no explanation mark and i have files in the cloud I never had before. I don't have a key it still MT
[20:19] <verterok> phxheat1: you don't have a token in your keyring?
[20:19] <verterok> phxheat1: try closing the keyring windoes and opening it again
[20:19] <phxheat1> still got the vertical dots
[20:20] <phxheat1> I see 3 files in there its working!!!
[20:21] <phxheat1> Its all working now
[20:21] <phxheat1> The only thing I did new was to press the Add This Computer
[20:22] <verterok> phxheat1: that step is required to get it working :)
[20:24] <phxheat1> Maybe that should be pointed out in a tutorial or put a note under it. See i was thinking why add the puter again when it was listed in the box above
[20:25] <verterok> phxheat1: please file a bug about that!
[20:27] <phxheat1> OK i will, thanks very much verterok, I learned alot today. Im going get some beer and relax. thanks buddy
[20:27] <verterok> phxheat1: enjoy!
[22:49] <nettrot> Can anyone tell me if the Ubuntu One Music Store will either A) Have a Banshee Plugin for Banshee users, or B) Have an open specification so such a plugin could be contributed?
[23:21] <sandy|lurk> nettrot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LucidUbuntuOneMusicStore
[23:21] <sandy|lurk> no idea how up-to-date that is, but it mentions both Rhythmbox and Banshee
[23:31] <nettrot> sandy|lurk: Excellent, I'll subscribe to that page.


[04:54] <Swift110-mobile> hey all
[05:54] <alkisg> Paddy_NI: that means your Internet connectivity is up but your DNS is broken; is that still an issue?