[00:00] <Daskreech> raevin: asked in #cplusplus ?
[00:00] <gomiboy> jmichaelx: you did all the mv and rm in a console, out of kde, right?
[00:00] <raevin> Daskreech: didn't know that channel existed o.o  on freenode?
[00:00] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: all of them?
[00:01] <jmichaelx> gomiboy: yes
[00:01] <gomiboy> jmichaelx: ok, it's officially strange... :)
[00:02] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: all of them what? all of the reasons?
[00:02] <Daskreech> all of your settings?
[00:02] <Daskreech> You have nothing saved?
[00:02] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: i have nothing saved. yes, that was a mistake. what i do not get is why everything is gone.
[00:03] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: ok what's in the current ~/.kde ?
[00:05] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: i am not sure what to say, basically the things you would normally expect to find in a newly generated .kde
[00:05] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: ... can you check that you didn't copy it to ~/kde ?
[00:06] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: i didn't, and i can scrol back to where i entered the command, and i entered it correctly
[00:07] <Daskreech> .o0(might be why I always use cp to restore a backup)
[00:07] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: out of curiousity can you paste the command that you used to move it back?
[00:07] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: lol... i am not ruling out personal error just yet
[00:08] <Daskreech> :-)
[00:10] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: the command i entered was: 'mv .kde-old .kde'
[00:10] <Daskreech> in ~
[00:10] <jmichaelx> yes, in ~
[00:10] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: and i see my problem.... there is a .kde-old IN .kde
[00:11] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: Tada :)
[00:11] <jmichaelx> whew
[00:11] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: except, this is not what i would have expected
[00:12] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: :-) Think about it.  what happens when you put a file into a directory ?
[00:12] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: i have a feeling that since i had not killed kdm, a new .kde was being generated at the same time i was mv'ing .kde-old to .kde
[00:12] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: yes... but i had just rm -rf'd .kde
[00:13] <jmichaelx> before i mv'd .kde-old to .kde
[00:13] <Daskreech> I thought that's what you had said
[00:14] <Daskreech>  it's likely that might have been what happened. I normally just service stop kdm
[00:14] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: yea, that was the important step i had skipped
[00:14] <jmichaelx> :-)
[00:14] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: ready to try again?
[00:14] <jmichaelx> lol, yep
[00:17] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: i have been doing all of this to get to the bottom of why these task manager icons do not go away as they should, when the associated window is closed
[00:17] <Daskreech> I heard today someone is having the same problem on arch
[00:19] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: i have a third machine that went through the same upgrade, and it is not having this problem. the greatest difference between the machines with the problem, and the one without is the CPU. the two with the problem have dual-core atom CPUs. the one without has a core 2 quad.
[00:20] <Daskreech> that would be a strange bug
[00:20] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: I presume you have asked in #plasma ?
[00:21] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: it would, and i assume the CPU is completely irrelevant, but since both of the machines with this problem have the same CPU, it does enter the mind
[00:21] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: it's an interesting point. Both Atom you say?
[00:21] <jmichaelx> no, i was not even aware of the existance of #plasma
[00:21] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: yes, both atom d525
[00:25] <ionite> hi everyone i'm running on atom should i use KDE or XFCE?
[00:25] <Daskreech> Whichever you like?
[00:25] <ionite> well netbook is underpowered so would running on KDE be too taxing and laggy?
[00:26] <Daskreech> Not that bad you can scale KDE down to something you can deal with
[00:26] <Daskreech> and KDE 4.7 is much more optimized
[00:39] <ionite> Daskreech: why should i use KDE instead of XFCE? what are the pros and cons?
[00:42] <Daskreech> ionite: I'll start off by saying that I'm heavily in favour of KDE so don't expect unbiased lists :)
[00:42] <ionite> Daskreech: noted since i'm in KDE channel. lolx
[00:43] <Daskreech> ionite: KDE is far more full featured and has an underlying shared technology so you can do things like watch movies in the image viewer without it taking up any more space (less actually) than having dedicated applications for both
[00:44] <ionite> Daskreech: how easy it is to disable features to run on netbook? considering i'm an idoit to ubuntu?
[00:48] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: where did you discover that someone in arch was experiencing a problem similar to mine?
[00:49] <Daskreech> plasma is pretty flexible (not making any claims it's more so than xfce)
[00:50] <Daskreech> It has a netbook mode
[00:50] <Daskreech> Should auto detect and run in netbook mode
[00:50] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: #kde
[00:50] <jmichaelx> ahh, ty
[00:50] <ionite> Daskreech: so u'll run a scale down version?
[00:51] <ionite> Daskreech: my netbook is preinstalled with netbook remix. should i replace with KDE?
[00:51] <jmichaelx> i run kde on nearly everything, but my  dell mini 9 is still running lucid+UNR
[00:52] <jmichaelx> i have been considering giving kde a whirl on it... i've used both xfce and lxde in the past
[00:53] <Daskreech> ionite: You can if you like.. you can just apt-get install
[00:54] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: Up to you :)
[00:54] <Daskreech> !Info kubuntu-netbook | ionite
[00:54] <jmichaelx> i am thinking that with kde, you might at least want to disable file-indexing and akonadi-relate services
[00:55] <maum> can i use touch screen on ubuntu?
[00:55] <ionite> jmichaelx: so what's ur conclusion? KDE or XFCE for netbook?
[00:56] <szal> ionite: try it, like it or don't, then decide
[00:56] <fosburg> Problem after bootup OS.  Sometimes the desktop opens showing apps on left side--othertimes desktop shows pulldown menu upper left.  Problem, some apps don't operate correctly under the pulldown menu.  Application is DraftSight
[00:56] <ionite> szal: it's such a pain to update now and if i were to reinstall it would be the same painful thing again.
[00:57] <Daskreech> maum: yes
[00:57] <maum> Daskreech, how can I use touch function?
[00:57] <Daskreech> maum: by touching?
[00:57] <maum> Daskreech, Should I install touch driver?
[00:59] <Daskreech> maum: I don't know what device you have but I would guess most should work
[00:59] <fosburg> anyone undestand my problem?
[00:59] <fosburg> Problem after bootup OS.  Sometimes the desktop opens showing apps on left side--othertimes desktop shows pulldown menu upper left.  Problem, some apps don't operate correctly under the pulldown menu.  Application is DraftSight
[00:59] <maum> Daskreech, There is only touch driver for window not ubuntu.
[01:00] <Daskreech> maum: that's possible.
[01:00] <Daskreech> fosburg: Do you ahve a screenshot I'm not following
[01:00] <Daskreech> !info draftsight
[01:00] <Daskreech> I also don't know what draftsight is
[01:00] <maum> Daskreech, Can you help me to set up touch driver?
[01:01] <fosburg> No on the screen shot
[01:01] <Daskreech> maum: I don't know. What are you trying to setup?
[01:02] <Daskreech> fosburg: Draftsight doesn't operate under the drop down menu?
[01:02] <fosburg> Naum that is correct
[01:02] <maum> Daskreech, in order to active touch screen, I think I have to do something else... do you know that?
[01:03] <Daskreech> fosburg: Does it work when the apps are on the left side ?
[01:03] <fosburg> Naum--why would the OS open up on the desktop two different ways?
[01:03] <fosburg> yes
[01:03] <Daskreech> fosburg: I don't know there could be a number of reasons. You have multiple desktops installed or different profiles
[01:04] <Daskreech> maum: Haven't  looked at that so I'm not sure what might be required. Far as I know it should just work if you have a driver. If you don't have a driver thats' different
[01:05] <fosburg> Yes--windows still works  I can select Ubuntu or windows at startup
[01:05] <maum> Daskreech, I don't have a driver and the model is VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev a2)
[01:06] <Daskreech> maum: That's an output device not an input device
[01:07] <maum> Daskreech, how can I check the input device?
[01:07] <Daskreech> It would be the screen. but easier just to say what device you are using
[01:07] <Daskreech> a laptop with touch screen?
[01:09] <maum> Daskreech, brand name is samsung..?
[01:10] <maum> Daskreech, Model code is DM-U350_PA35
[01:11] <Daskreech> Tablet?
[01:11] <maum> Daskreech, I think so
[01:11] <maum> Daskreech, a kink of all in one system.
[01:12] <Daskreech> Ah ok
[01:18] <Daskreech> Does seem a little hard to find information on it
[01:18] <maum> Daskreech, ok
[01:20] <Daskreech> maum: I'm trying to think of a good channel for you to ask more about that in
[01:20] <maum> Daskreech, ok thanks
[01:24] <maum> Daskreech, I heard touch screen is supported in ubuntu 11.04. so I installed ubuntu 11.04 a few month ago. but I didn't know how to active touch screen on ubuntu 11.04
[01:25] <Daskreech> maum: #ubuntu-devel would probably be a good place to ask
[01:26] <maum> Daskreech, ok I see.
[01:26] <Daskreech> Really it is the kernel which should be #ubuntu-server but I don't think they will respond with as much interest as #ubuntu-devel
[01:28] <OerHeks> or #Ubuntu-touch
[01:53] <ionite> how do i connect to a network printer? with KDE?
[01:54] <Daskreech> try http://localhost:631
[01:56] <briandw1969> having stability issues
[01:56] <ionite> Daskreech: are there any softwares to help me connec to network printer?
[01:57] <Daskreech> Maybe. I haven't tried I just know that they pretty much all run through cups and that's the direct way to interact with CUPS
[01:57] <Daskreech> !printer
[01:57] <Daskreech> That's drivers stuff
[01:58] <Daskreech> I'm sure but I don't know which software helps you connect to it offhand other than CUPS
[01:58] <Daskreech> briandw1969: More details?
[01:58] <briandw1969> i installed 11.04 on a blank HD,now it shuts off without warning
[01:59] <briandw1969> sometimes its stays on for a while,sometimes it doesnt
[01:59] <ionite> Daskreech: u mean i just install cups and it'llbe fine?
[02:02] <briandw1969> it doesnt seem to follow any patterns
[02:05] <briandw1969> i dont know if a re-install would do any good or not
[02:05] <Daskreech> briandw1969: while you are using it?
[02:05] <briandw1969> yes
[02:06] <briandw1969> sometimes screen goes black,sometimes it reboots by itslef
[02:08] <briandw1969> is there error logs i can look at?
[02:08] <Daskreech> briandw1969: That sounds bad. have you checked the logs
[02:08] <Daskreech>  ha
[02:08] <Daskreech> yes
[02:08] <briandw1969> thru terminal?
[02:08] <Daskreech> look in /var/log/dmesg.log
[02:09] <Daskreech> There is a Klog application
[02:10] <Daskreech> !info ksystemlog
[02:10] <Daskreech> briandw1969: ^^^
[02:10] <briandw1969> rut  roh...file does not exsist
[02:12] <briandw1969> not resonding or it taking a while to lad
[02:14] <briandw1969> not good,klog crashed
[02:15] <briandw1969> loading debugs and sending report
[02:20] <briandw1969> how do u do the highlight thing in the room chat?
[02:25] <Daskreech> !tab
[02:26] <Daskreech> briandw1969: You have to install the application

[02:26] <Daskreech> Hello
[02:26] <briandw1969> which one?
[02:26] <Daskreech> ksystemlog
[02:26] <briandw1969> its installed it just crashed :+(
[02:27] <briandw1969> Daskreech: hmn
[02:27] <briandw1969> damn it lol
[02:27] <Daskreech> briandw1969: run it from the command line
[02:27] <Daskreech> it will (should) say why it crashed
[02:27] <Daskreech> you can pastebin it
[02:27] <Daskreech>  !pastebin
[02:28] <briandw1969> its generating bug report right now
[02:28] <Daskreech> briandw1969: ah
[02:29] <Daskreech> that doesn't help me though :)
[02:32] <briandw1969_> system locked up
[02:33] <raevin> anyone know how to get a card to be recognized as input? lol...my onboard now isn't being detected by kmixer as capture device
[02:35] <raevin> pavucontrol shows m ycard buto nly when i choose "monitor" or "show all" in the input devices tab
[02:36] <briandw1969_> sent u some info Daskreech
[02:37] <Daskreech> briandw1969_: can you pastebin that?
[02:38] <Daskreech> briandw1969_: can you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[02:39] <briandw1969> will try
[02:40] <briandw1969> i have it in pastebin
[02:40] <briandw1969> now what
[02:41] <Daskreech> paste the url here
[02:41] <Daskreech> copy and paste it here
[02:41] <briandw1969>  1
[02:41] <briandw1969>  2
[02:41] <briandw1969>  3
[02:41] <briandw1969>  4
[02:41] <briandw1969>  5
[02:41] <FloodBotK1> briandw1969: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <briandw1969>  6
[02:43] <briandw1969> ok,im not use to IRC
[02:43] <briandw1969> sorry
[02:45] <Daskreech> Hmm
[02:45] <briandw1969> did it again
[02:47] <briandw1969> its not giving me a url for pastebin i just did
[03:14] <raevin> well, afte a crap ton of work finally got my mic fixed for hte most part :D
[03:14] <raevin> <3 alsamixer
[04:07] <Guest30350> j
[05:24] <vikapi> when we right click on the desktop, can we include a new item by changing any config file??
[05:25] <vikapi> im quite new to kde
[06:01] <douchebag_not> is this a right place I can ask about kde widget style ?
[06:04] <douchebag_not> why is that the "configure" setting for QtCurve is missing in KDE widget style ?
[07:00] <ussher__> anyone seen a howto on removing nvidia propriatary drivers and replace them with nouveau?
[07:02] <ussher__> every day im having 100% cpu and system freeze with nvidia drivers.
[07:04] <bazhang> !find nouveau
[07:05] <ussher__> !find nvidia
[07:06] <ussher__> so just apt-get purge nvidia and install noveau?
[07:22] <alvin> ussher__: NO! There's a tool for that. Just use jockey. It's in the menu. (text based version is jockey-text). What are your issues exactly? bug  760632 ? In that case, use the driver from the x-swat.
[07:23] <alvin> ok, I reinstalled the system, did an upgrade to KDE4.7 and the experimental final kmail. Now I can receive mails, but not see any in the list. Moreover, each folder contains 1 mail according to kmail. Still, the list is empty. Any hints?
[09:45] <tdn> I am trying to fix a few things in my current color scheme in KDE. I think it is too difficult to see the difference between active and inactive tabs. Which color do I need to change to make the active one brighter? Example of the current situation is here:  http://i.imgur.com/5XiT2.png (Konsole tabs). The IRC tab is the one that is active in the above, however, this is very difficult to see.
[09:45] <alvin> ok, fixed that by changing a parameter in the postgresql config. The next problem will be harder: the system is unresponsive while multiple cores are working on the mails.
[09:46] <alvin> Start akonadi/nepomuk/kmail -> load goes to 3.5
[10:25] <ionite> can i upgrade from my netbook remix to either XFCE or KDE?
[10:33] <James147> ionite: later versions of kde have both the netbook and full versions installed...  you can switch between them by going to system settings > Workspace Behaviour > Workspace > and change "Workspace type"
[10:33] <James147> ionite: you can also install xfce or any other desktop enviroment alongside kde
[11:03] <alvin> If I hover over a .jpg file, the preview shows a 'play' button and a slider. Why is it expecting .jpg files to be movies?
[11:09] <accolade> hi! Is there a keyboard shortcut for performing selection paste (like middle mouse click does)?
[11:14] <James147> accolade: dont think so... but you can tell klipper to sync the contents of the clipboard and the selection
[11:17] <accolade> James147: that's an acceptalbe workaround, thanks!
[11:38] <ionite> how do i remove gmusic browser?
[11:38] <tonymc> through kpackagekit?
[11:39] <tonymc> alt+f2 -> kpackagekit -> look for gmusic browser
[11:39] <ionite> what do i type in the run line?
[11:40] <ionite> it keeps repeating the same segment whenever my system is running @ full capacity.
[11:40] <ionite> it's like a broken record
[11:41] <tonymc> have you ever installed software
[11:42] <tonymc> just go where you usually install software, look for your gmusic and uninstall it
[11:44] <eduard> test
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <szal> moin BluesKaj
[12:04] <BluesKaj> hi szal
[12:04] <szal> BluesKaj: do you have machines w/ a legacy nVidia card?  I believe I remember you saying something along these lines
[12:04] <sobczyk> hi, how to switch ati card powerstates manually? I use proprietary driver
[12:07] <BluesKaj> szal, i have a nvidia 7600gt on my other linuxbox and a 8400gs on this one, I suppose the 7600 could be regarded as legacy but the nvidia-current driver works fine on it
[12:08] <szal> BluesKaj: nah, GF7 is not yet legacy
[12:09] <szal> BluesKaj: although one could assume that GF6 and 7 are next in line for product EOL
[12:09] <BluesKaj> well, it's a bit old . legacy obviously means no longer supported by proprietary or open source drivers
[12:10] <szal> "legacy" in this case means no longer supported by the current driver
[12:10] <szal> no idea whether nouveau will tackle the oldest nVidia cards, but nVidia's own legacy options go back to GF2
[12:12] <szal> you could say: current = 270 (as shipped w/ Natty)/280 (as available via PPA); legacy = 173 (for GeForce FX); old-legacy = 96 (for GF3 and 4); even-older-legacy = 71 (for GF2)
[12:13] <szal> and afaics the 173 and the 96 still get security updates, the 71 is just there but no more support for it
[12:14] <BluesKaj> I run the 280 , more stable with kde 4.7 than the 270
[12:15] <szal> as you weren't there last night when I got an answer to my question, let yourself be told that for running KDE 4.7 on a machine w/ a GF FX or older, you need to either use the nouveau driver or disable compositing
[12:16] <szal> (didn't test w/ nouveau yet, that's my assumption, but w/ the binary blob you need to disable compositing or else you get no desktop)
[12:18] <BluesKaj> seems nouveau is the default for nvidia on Oneiric , with no desktop effects available , and installing the 275 current driver is risky ..dependency hell can be the result , and one must blacklist the nouveau
[12:19] <szal> installing the nVidia driver should blacklist nouveau anyway
[12:19] <BluesKaj> it doesn't
[12:20] <BluesKaj> on Oneiric at least
[12:20] <szal> the install .sh from nvidia.com does (no idea about Oneiric here, but last I used it (openSUSE 11.4) it did
[12:20] <szal> )
[12:22] <BluesKaj> yes well that's a given , but if you're considering Onreiric then ....
[12:23] <szal> I won't consider Oneiric before it's out :)
[12:24] <ionite> i d/l Unetbootin linux version. how do i open the file?
[12:41] <James147> ionite: depends on what the file is... but why not use the repos and install it the offical way?
[12:42] <ionite> James147: i'm preparing for my netbook. it's running on netbook remix but i'm intending to make it a KDE
[12:43] <James147> ionite: ^^ why do you need unetbootin to switch form the netbook version to the desktop version?... the later version of kubuntu have them both installed and try to auto detect which you want (though yuo can manually change to the other if you want)
[12:44] <ionite> James147: clean install maybe? u mean i can upgrade to KDE from my netboon remix OS?
[12:44] <James147> ionite: also... that dosnt answer my question... why not install it form the repos rather then downloading it manually?
[12:44] <bazhang> ionite, yes, as I told you earlier
[12:45] <ionite> James147: i'm a noob to ubuntu, so many things i'm doing the 'Windows' way.
[12:45] <ionite> James147:  bazhang  how do i go about?
[12:45] <James147> ionite: there is nothing to upgrade... the netbook and desktop is just a different interface ontop of the same system... System Settings > Workspace behaviour > Workspace and change the desktop type to "desktop"
[12:45] <bazhang> ionite, upgrade to 11.04 then install the kubuntu-desktop package, if you wish to remove gnome then purekde links
[12:46] <bazhang> !purekde | ionite please read this time
[12:46]  * James147 assumed he was talking about the kde netbook version... :S
[12:47] <briandw1969> how do i install windows type proggies on kubuntu
[12:47] <bazhang> James147, yeah, he was crossposting in #ubuntu , using the UNE
[12:47] <bazhang> briandw1969, with wine
[12:47] <James147> ionite: then do what bazhang said :p
[12:47] <bazhang> !appdb | briandw1969 check here first
[12:47] <szal> James147: if experience teaches us one thing, then it's: don't assume, always make sure ^^
[12:47] <James147> bazhang:  even ^^
[12:47] <briandw1969> Xvideo
[12:48] <James147> szal: yeah... but sometimes its like drawing blood from a stone :p
[12:48] <bazhang> briandw1969, for what
[12:48] <briandw1969> xvidseup,for web cam
[12:48] <bazhang> briandw1969, no need.
[12:49] <bazhang> briandw1969, wine does not work with hardware, ask in #winehq
[12:49] <briandw1969> oh
[12:50] <James147> briandw1969: most webcams should just work with kubuntu... and if not then you need to find the right drivers for it not just use the windows ones
[12:51] <briandw1969> i can find drivers,but not sure how to install them
[12:51] <bazhang> briandw1969, check the supported webcam list first
[12:51]  * James147 dosnt look encourged by the number of virus/malware links he gets when googling "xvidseup"
[12:51] <bazhang> !webcam | briandw1969 check here
[12:52] <briandw1969> k,its a laptop cam,if it matters
[12:52] <bazhang> nope
[12:52] <bazhang> check the list
[12:52]  * James147 finds that laptop cams tend to work better with linux...
[12:52] <James147> as in ... they tend to jsut work
[12:53] <briandw1969> dont see toshiba in the list
[12:54] <bazhang> try cheese then
[12:54] <James147> briandw1969: what makes you think it dosnt work
[12:54] <James147> ?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> webcam drivers tend to be generic
[12:55] <briandw1969> cant find where to turn it on
[12:55] <James147> ^^ also thats make of webcam not make of laptop
[12:55] <bazhang> or the reverse
[12:55] <briandw1969> right
[12:55] <bazhang> briandw1969, using what application
[12:56] <briandw1969> it seems to work with messengers,but just cant find the on switch lol
[12:56] <briandw1969> as in it starts up
[12:57] <briandw1969> cheese?
[12:57] <bazhang> using which application
[12:57] <James147> briandw1969: install cheese and test with that... it will tell you if the cam is working or not
[12:58] <James147> !info cheese
[12:58] <briandw1969> cheese a terminal cmd?
[12:58] <bazhang> no, an application
[12:58] <James147> its an application
[12:59] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, install by tyerminal or package manager . makes little differencs
[12:59] <briandw1969> found it
[12:59] <markit> hi, 11.04, works fine the live cd, but I've installed and was not able to have the screen work... it shows the initial screen (or grub menu) but then it becomes black and never get the image
[13:00] <markit> there is a really small line on the upper left, nothing more
[13:00] <markit> I've intel 4000 video
[13:01] <markit> Kernel modules: i915
[13:01] <briandw1969> that works,now one more question if u have time
[13:02] <bazhang> briandw1969, as many as you wish, no limit of bandwidth on irc
[13:02] <briandw1969> its about kmixer
[13:02] <briandw1969> long story short i had to do complete 11.04 on my toshiba
[13:03] <bazhang> complete what
[13:03] <briandw1969> install,sorry
[13:04] <briandw1969> i cant get external speakers to shut off when trying to do headphones
[13:04] <briandw1969> b right back
[13:07] <briandw1969> back
[13:10] <markit> dmesg [drm:drm_mode_getfb] *ERROR* invalid framebuffer id
[13:13] <alvin> Looks familiar
[13:19] <briandw1969> bazhang: any ideas?
[13:23] <markit> I'm trying linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae... wondering why -pae version has been installed for this 32 bit kubuntu
[13:23] <markit> if I would have needed more ram addressing, I would have choose 64 bit version
[13:24]  * markit depressed
[13:26] <szal> markit: why, is there anything wrong w/ the PAE kernel?
[13:26] <szal> markit: other than that, you might want to update your system, -8 is not the current kernel
[13:30] <ionite_> how do i set EXE file as executable in XFCE?
[13:31] <szal> ionite_: you don't
[13:31] <bazhang> ionite_, same as in #ubuntu , your questions here
[13:31] <szal> .exe files are Windows executables & don't run (natively) on Linx
[13:31] <bazhang> !crosspost | ionite_
[13:32] <briandw1969> hey bazhang
[13:32] <ionite_> bazhang: i asked many times because i didn't get answered.
[13:32] <bazhang> ionite_, this was already asked and answered for you
[13:32] <bazhang> ionite_, sure it was. just like the earlier issue
[13:32] <ionite_> bazhang: it can't run.
[13:33] <bazhang> !work | ionite_
[13:33] <bazhang> ionite_, /join #winehq   <---- step 1
[13:34] <bazhang> ionite_, check the appdb step 2
[13:34] <bazhang> !appdb | ionite_
[13:36] <briandw1969> any ideas on kmixer?
[13:36] <raevin> briandw1969: what's the issue?
[13:37] <briandw1969> cant get external speakers to turn off when using audio jack
[13:38] <raevin> briandw1969: have you changed the master mixer?
[13:38] <briandw1969> in which way?
[13:41] <raevin> briandw1969: using the non-external speakers for the master one??
[13:41] <raevin> this is assuming you have multiple soundcards
[13:41] <Realmkeeper> What are the chances of Adobe 64-bit Flash being ready in time for Kubuntu 11.10? a) zero, b) no hope, c) not likely, d) 0.0019%
[13:41] <markit> szal: I had -10 and got this problem, since installation kubuntu has -8 I guess, I tried the older, but SAME problem
[13:42] <markit> I'm very depressed :( same hardware with 10.10 worked fine
[13:42] <briandw1969> looking
[13:42] <markit> it has a dvi output, but I have to use analog monitor, so I use an adapter
[13:42] <markit> I'll boot live again and see what kernel is in use
[13:43] <markit> IF is a kernel problem
[13:43] <markit> (I can ssh in the system, if someone has some suggestion...)
[13:43] <markit> maybe this is the bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22674
[13:43] <markit> but is so old...
[13:43] <markit> and is "not a bug" lol
[13:44] <briandw1969> i cant find where to set headphone/external
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Realmkeeper, flashworks fine on 11.10 , just install kubnuntu retricted-extras , or if necessary flashplugin-installer
[13:44] <Realmkeeper> BluesKaj: Didn't work on mine... :/
[13:44] <BluesKaj> !restricted
[13:45] <yofel> Realmkeeper: flash 64bit won't be in the archive until adobe marks it as final. I'm running flash 11 beta1 fine here though on 64bit
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Realmkeeper, what didn't work ?
[13:45] <yofel> and *usually* 32bit + nspluginwrapper works too
[13:45] <markit> how can I add a parameter to the kernel before booting?
[13:46] <Realmkeeper> BluesKaj: Flash 64-bit beta; nor the restricted extras.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> uhmm beta why did you use that ?
[13:47] <Realmkeeper> yofel: I tried the beta Flash, but it didn't work.
[13:47] <genii-around> yofel: I'm finding the 64bit Flash 11 beta continually crashing here
[13:47] <yofel> funny, not for me
[13:48] <Realmkeeper> BluesKaj: I tried the beta only as a last resort, after restricted extras, gnash, etc...
[13:48] <genii-around> Hm. < goes and tries something >
[13:48] <BluesKaj> gnash , that's been broken for ages
[13:49] <Realmkeeper> Yes, by gnash did work for me when other things didn't... though, that was a while back.
[13:50] <Realmkeeper> So annoying that one company is making me consider going back to 32-bit on a 64-bit computer.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Realmkeeper, it may not be flash itself ..what about your graphics driver?
[13:52] <Realmkeeper> the graphics driver seems to be installed fine.
[13:52] <Realmkeeper> When I use 32-bit liveCDs, there is no problem.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> maybe installed fine , but how is it behaving?
[13:53] <Realmkeeper> BluesKaj: As in? Does the screen flicker? No.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> crashing other graphics heavy content like hd movies etc
[13:54] <Realmkeeper> Plays hd movies just fine.
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Realmkeeper, did you purge the beta flash?
[14:02] <Realmkeeper> BluesKaj: It's not on my system, but I can't remember if I purged it or just removed it.
[14:02] <Realmkeeper> Slack, I know.
[14:04] <Admc`> hey
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Realmkeeper, the idea of purging is to rid the system of config files , so the same behaviour doesn't repeat
[14:04] <Admc`> how to compile kde-workspace on 11.04?
[14:05] <Admc`> there's no readme file
[14:05] <BluesKaj> compile?
[14:05] <Admc`> yep
[14:05] <BluesKaj> why
[14:05] <Admc`> I downloaded kde-workspace from git
[14:05] <BluesKaj> but why ?
[14:05] <Admc`> because they fixed bug in taskmanager
[14:06] <BluesKaj> just install kubuntu-desktop
[14:06] <Admc`> nope
[14:06] <Admc`> in repo there's old version
[14:07] <Admc`> with annynoing bug
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Admc`, ok , it's not a biggie for me ,,the updates will eventully fix that
[14:07] <Realmkeeper> Ah, only about two more months before 11.10. I'll wait and just do a fresh install.
[14:07] <James147> Admc`: was the bug fixed in 4.7 or after?
[14:08] <Admc`> I don't want wait for KDE 4.7.1
[14:08] <Admc`> bug appeared in KDE 4.7
[14:08] <Admc`> and was fixed in git
[14:08] <BluesKaj> the bug is still there in 4.7 ..
[14:08] <Admc`> bug is fixed in git
[14:08] <Admc`> so I wanted to compile it
[14:10] <Admc`> okay, I see nobody knows how to do it
[14:10] <Admc`> I have to go
[14:11] <BluesKaj> compiling a whole desktop to fix a minor bug ...well good luck
 compiling a whole desktop to fix a minor bug ...well good luck - this is why i don't like source-based distros
[14:36] <BluesKaj> tonymc, as opposed to ?
[14:37] <tonymc> binary-based
[14:38] <tonymc> like ubuntu
[14:38] <tonymc> source-based are the likes of gentoo and slackware
[14:39] <Pici> Everything is compiled from source.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> tonymc, my comment was meant to show a minor bug requires linux - patience , it will be fixed , annoyances shouldn't become obsessive
[14:46] <tonymc> Pici everything is compiled from source but in binary-based distros package maintainers do it for the user. In source-based distros, you are the one who has to compile everything.
[14:54] <trackingsquad> Apha 3 works very good :)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> trackingsquad, on what kind of setup/pc/hardware
[15:06] <trackingsquad> BluesKaj: /sysinfo
[15:06] <trackingsquad> Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path
[15:07] <BluesKaj> trackingsquad, best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:08] <trackingsquad> Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path
[15:08] <trackingsquad> System:    Host trackingsquad-G31-M7-TE Kernel 3.0.0-7-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Ubuntu 11.10 oneiric
[15:08] <trackingsquad> CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium Dual E2200 (SMP) clocked at 1200.00 MHz
[15:08] <trackingsquad> Graphics:  Card nVidia G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] tty res: N/A
[15:08] <trackingsquad> Disks:     HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.3% used)
[15:08] <trackingsquad> Info:      Processes 142 Uptime 23:40 Memory 1054.2/3963.5MB Runlevel 2 Client Quassel [M] v0.7.2 (dist-f93ace0) inxi 1.4.8
[15:08] <FloodBotK1> trackingsquad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <trackingsquad> ups
[15:11] <BluesKaj> trackingsquad, which nvidia driver are you using ?
[15:11] <trackingsquad> default one havent done naything to the system
[15:12] <trackingsquad> havent tested 3d efects
[15:12] <trackingsquad> I imagine It worunt work if its on novau
[15:14] <trackingsquad> well they seem to work
[15:16] <trackingsquad> I am using nouveau and its working great :)
[15:17] <BluesKaj> nouveau doesn't supply 3d or dr afaik , trackingsquad
[15:19] <trackingsquad> BluesKaj:  At lest I am using wooby windoes and tranlucent windows and work great
[15:20] <genii-around> Some 3d support is in nouveau .. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/MesaDrivers
[15:20] <BluesKaj> desktop effects is working then , trackingsquad
[15:21] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:21] <trackingsquad> yep
[15:21] <trackingsquad> wanne see vid?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> well, i'm not going to chance it on 11.10 yet . my experince with noveau has no been satisfactory and the recommended nvidia driver  has been worse :P
[15:26] <trackingsquad> BluesKaj: I can upload video showing it to youtube in minute
[15:28] <BluesKaj> trackingsquad, no need for me , I'm not changing anything , but tothers may be interested
[15:28] <BluesKaj> others
[15:29] <trackingsquad> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Udm4KHqMAo
[15:31] <trackingsquad> I filmed it with my cell so quality is not the best
[15:31] <trackingsquad> but you can see its working
[15:39] <markit> a fast way to run X in vesa mode without removing it's -intel package?
[15:39] <markit> (xserver-xorg-video-intel)
[15:40] <ionite> how do i install pulse audio?
[15:40] <DarthFrog> ionite: It's installed by default.
[15:41] <ionite> DarthFrog: i was told to remove it because i had stuttering audio
[15:42] <DarthFrog> ionite:  sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[15:43] <DarthFrog> ionite:  "apt-cache search pulse" will show you what's available to install.
[15:43] <ionite> what should i do with this stutter?
[15:43] <DarthFrog> See a speech therapist?  <grinning, ducking and running>
[15:43] <ionite> DarthFrog: i believe it's a software glitch
[15:44] <DarthFrog> Did removing pulse stop it?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> ionite, which player ?
[15:46] <ionite> BluesKaj: i tired gmusicbrowser, audacious, etc
[15:46] <BluesKaj> ionite, try vlc
[15:46] <ionite> DarthFrog: when i remove pulse i cannot hear anything from my speakers! the volume at the desktop is gone!
[15:46] <ionite> DarthFrog: removing pulse didn't help at all
[15:47] <DarthFrog> ionite: You can use kmix to set the volume controls and enable/disable channels.
[15:47] <DarthFrog> ionite: Then the problem is either with ALSA or is hardware.
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ionite, open alsamixer in the terminal , and use the arrow keys to navigate and the M key to unmute the ctrls
[15:47] <ionite> please help me! i'm really desparate here i even reintalled the entire OS
[15:48] <ionite> DarthFrog:  BluesKaj so what are the commands i should type at the terminal>
[15:48] <DarthFrog> ionite: Do you have another sound card you can try?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ionite, read above, type, alsamixer
[15:49] <ionite> BluesKaj: i'm at the vol screen. what should i click?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> ionite, use the arrow keys to increase the volume and to navigate thru the ctrls
[15:50] <ionite> there after?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> ionite, are you on kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[15:51] <ionite> xfce
[15:52] <ionite> BluesKaj: i played around it sounds better now but still very muffled and noisy
[15:52] <BluesKaj> sorry xfce isn't familiar to me so i don't know how to navigate it's desktop
[15:53] <ionite> BluesKaj: it's fine if u can guide me through the command terminal
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ionite, you have to turn the ctrls up to at least 80%
[15:53] <genii-around> ionite: Xubuntu also has it's own support channel :)
[15:53] <ionite> BluesKaj: if i turn to 80% it'll have no  sound at all in  my audio
[15:54] <bazhang> genii-around, he's crossposting there
[15:54] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, any experience with systemsettings multimedia /phonon in xfce?
[15:54] <genii-around> bazhang: Aaaah OK
[15:55] <szal> bazhang: didn't you tell him not to crosspost? ;)
[15:55] <BluesKaj> anyone else help , bazhang , since you seem to be monitoring
[15:56] <BluesKaj> ionite, best to ask in #xfce
[15:57] <kopp> help
[15:57] <ionite> BluesKaj: thanks! :)
[15:57] <kopp> ihave kubuntu 11.04
[15:58] <kopp> the kwin works whit kde 4.6, but when i upgrade to 4.7 kwin doesn't works :/
[15:59] <kopp> please help me!
[16:02] <genii-around> kopp: Have you tried something like mv .kde .old-kde  and then logging in from kdm again?
[16:02] <kopp> no
[16:03] <kopp> but works kdm whithout effects :/
[16:03] <kopp> I try it
[16:03] <kopp> thx
[16:03] <benl> ktorrent is supposed to have automatic blacklist downloading, i don't see that functionality anywhere
[16:03] <benl> nor do i see any "plugin" settings?
[16:03] <benl> anyone else have the same problem?
[16:04] <ionite_> sorr i got DC
[16:04] <benl> http://ktorrent.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Plugins i've no idea how i'm supposed to disable these
[16:04] <benl> err enable even
[16:04] <benl> oh for pete's sake
[16:04] <benl> i'm so stupid
[16:04] <benl> lol found it!
[16:07] <kopp> i try it
[16:07] <kopp> there is no kde-old
[16:07] <kopp> in kdm
[16:09] <kopp> i try to rename .kde to .kde2
[16:09] <kopp> i hope this reconfigure kde
[16:13] <kopp> kwin chrash when i login
[16:13] <kopp> http://pastebin.com/iwUMYbLy
[16:14] <kopp> see this!!! http://pastebin.com/iwUMYbLy
[16:14] <kopp> please http://pastebin.com/iwUMYbLy
[16:20] <kopp> http://pastebin.com/iwUMYbLy !!!!!!!!
[16:22] <douchebag_not> hi, anybody knows the name of the typefaces(fonts) here : http://pyruzan.deviantart.com/art/Gentle-Green-Style-201485861?q=boost%3Apopular%20kde&qo=375&offset=10#comments
[16:23] <Pici> !patience | kopp
[16:23] <kopp> ubottu: ok
[16:24] <kopp> ubottu: Fucking bot!
[16:24] <kopp> I need a human!!!
[16:24] <Pici> kopp: That sort of language is unacceptable here.
[16:25] <douchebag_not> Pici, let him speak :\ I wanna hear more from the man
[16:26] <kopp> !patience | kopp
[16:26] <kopp> !patience | kopp
[16:27] <kopp> Pici: you bot?
[16:28] <kopp> there is 278 human and not answer my queson
[16:29] <Pici> kopp: I assure you I'm a human. Maybe no one knows what the answer is.
[16:29] <genii-around> kopp: After I finish eating my lunch I'll ask you to try a couple more things. Please be patient.
[16:30] <kopp> genii-around: thanks, ok
[16:31] <douchebag_not> oh well
[16:34] <kopp> there is a chrash report: http://pastebin.com/iwUMYbLy
[16:35] <kopp> and kwin in 4.6 worked perfectly
[16:35] <kopp> but when i upgraded to 4.7 didn't work
[16:37] <kopp> wit
[16:38] <kopp> *wait
[16:38] <kopp> i know what the problem
[16:39] <genii-around> kopp: The error message you earlier gave suggested some issue in your graphics system, probably the driver.
[16:40] <kopp> genii-around: thanx the help, I open aditional drivesand i see no driver installed
[16:40] <kopp> genii-around: now i installing it
[16:40] <kopp> genii-around: thanx for help
[17:02] <PasNox> hello, i'm trying to activate the grub2 bootloader in kdm. i have selected it in the systemsettings kdm applet. but when i check in kick off / kdm / session stop applet none have dropdown menu in the restart bbutton.
[17:02] <PasNox> any hint ?
[17:02] <PasNox> i'm running kde sc 4.7 and kdepim 4.7
[17:19] <Snooffy> hi guys I'm having problem installing latest samba update
[17:24] <Snooffy> it says this dpkg: error processing samba-common (--configure):
[17:24] <Snooffy> and a few other line, but i'll paste it somewhere and paste just the url here
[17:25] <Snooffy> !paste
[17:26] <Snooffy> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/659429/
[17:31] <Snooffy> there is some depencies problem, I've tried to purge everthing from samba, but getting the same thing all the time...
[17:32] <Snooffy> this is what i get after the purging samba-common, samba-common-bin and installing samba again
[17:32] <Snooffy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/659432/
[17:34] <Snooffy> i'm also getting a very long list of dpkg waring messages
[17:34] <Snooffy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/659433/
[17:35] <Snooffy> how can i get rid of these? is there a way how to fix all the files list files automaticaly?
[17:37] <genii-around> Snooffy: Have you tried sudo apt-get -f install             ?
[17:39] <Snooffy> genii-around: I'm getting the same depency problem
[17:39] <Snooffy> I'm affraid that the problem is with the dpkg files list files
[17:41] <Snooffy> genii-around: I've tried dpkg --configure -a but that gives me a simmilar error message with the depency problems-leaving unconfigured
[17:41] <genii-around> Snooffy: Perhaps: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-common_2%3a3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3_all.deb
[17:42] <Snooffy>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[17:43] <genii-around> Snooffy: Can you pastebin the output?
[17:43] <Snooffy> yep
[17:44] <Snooffy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/659439/
[17:44] <Snooffy> + a lots of dpkg: warning above it
[17:45] <genii-around> The files list list thing yes
[17:56] <Ab3L> hi
[17:57] <Ab3L> a question. how can i set a keyboard shortcut to move a window from a virtual desktop to another one? is it possible to do it?
[17:58] <Ab3L> (setting of shortcuts to switch desktop is easy, but i don't find how to set shortcuts to move windows from a desktop to another one)
[18:08] <Snooffy> genii-around: sorted mate
[18:09] <Snooffy> replaced /var/libr/dpkg/status with /var/lib//dpkg/status-old
[18:09] <Snooffy> apt-get update
[18:09] <Snooffy> apt-get upgrade solved it
[18:18] <genii-around> Snooffy: Ah, good. Was looking into the "dpkg: warning: files list file for package" stuff but not getting enlightened
[18:19] <xcv> hi all
[18:19] <xcv> i am a medium user, i tried opensuse and fedora before (k)ubuntu
[18:20] <xcv> and i would like
[18:20] <xcv> to know how updates work
[18:20] <xcv> because i remember when firefox 4 was released, i had to add the firefox 4 ppa
[18:21] <xcv> do i need to add a ppa's in order to get the main updates such as libreoffice 3.4.2??
[18:22] <xcv> nobody??
[18:22] <Pici> xcv: patience
[18:22] <Pici> xcv: Ubuntu is not a rolling release. So unless its a security update, you're not going to be seeing version upgrades.
[18:23] <xcv> sorry, i had never used irc
[18:23] <Pici> xcv: Oddly enough, firefox claimed that Fx5 was a security update to 4, so that did make it into natty post release.
[18:23] <xcv> okay, so i have to add ppa's in order to get non-security updates
[18:23] <Pici> Pretty much.
[18:24] <Pici> If you feel you need those versions, of course.
[18:24] <xcv> i like to test new versions, so i suppose that i will have to haha
[18:24] <xcv> Thank you very much :)
[18:25] <Pici> np
[18:25] <Ab3L> so, nobody uses key shortcuts to move windows from a desktop to another one?
[18:26] <xcv> I use them!
[18:27] <Ab3L> xcv: and how did you set it?
[18:27] <xcv> kwin o compiz?
[18:27] <Ab3L> xcv: kwin
[18:29] <xcv> in systemsettings, you have to go to shortcuts->global keyboard shortcuts->kwin (combobox)
[18:29] <xcv> it should be in the list
[18:31] <xcv> Ab3L: i had never used irc, so i forgot "Ab3L:",  the answer is above, sorry
[18:31] <Ab3L> xcv: np
[18:32] <Ab3L> i've used irc since 2001 and i forgot also :)
[18:33] <Ab3L> xcv: thank you for your help. i was looking for it for a while
[18:33] <xcv> Ab3L: i like irc, i think i will use it a bit more
[18:33] <xcv> Ab3L: np ;)
[18:33] <Ab3L> xcv: which client are you using to chat?
[18:34] <Ab3L> oh... i see
[18:34] <Ab3L> quassel
[18:34] <xcv> Ab3L: i just found Quassel in the menu and i'm using it haha
[18:36] <Ab3L> give a look to irssi and kvirc also. each one has its own qualities
[18:38] <Ab3L> (those ones i'm using... kvirc as primary and irssi inside a terminal window of kvirc) geez
[18:38] <Ab3L> :)
[18:38] <xcv> Ab3L: which are the differences? what should i look for in a irc client?
[18:47] <Ab3L> xcv: if you are using a client only to chat, one equals theother
[18:47] <Ab3L> xcv: it is just the look that is important.
[18:47] <Ab3L> xcv: if you use it to do other things,
[18:48] <Ab3L> you should use a client that let you do what you want.
[18:48] <xcv> Ab3L: what else can i do? :)
[18:49] <Ab3L> xcv: i used it to send and get big files
[18:50] <Ab3L> xcv: for it you need dcc chat and dcc transfert capabilities
[18:50] <xcv> Ab3L: which do you think is better then?
[18:51] <Ab3L> xcv: irssi is a terminal client and if you need a feature, you can script it in perl.
[18:52] <TheCyberShocker> Hey guys not sure if this is the correct place to look but i installed my ATI driver using the driver software kUbuntu provides, and when i try go into administrator for the ati settings, it asks for a password, when i type my password into the box it says wrong password. How can i solve this?
[18:52] <xcv> Ab3L: i tried perl but it is a bit strange
[18:52] <xcv> Ab3L: from my point of view, of course
[18:53] <Ab3L> xcv: kvirc is similar a quassel, but has its own language for scripts. but i find it nice, because i can set avatars to users and split the screen to have messages at the bottom and notices on the top of the window (like a filter) and full of colours
[18:54] <Ab3L> xcv: i did only three scripts for irssi, and i think also that perl is a bit strange :)
[18:54] <xcv> Ab3L: i will install kvirc now and i will try it
[18:55] <Ab3L> but irssi is like a command line terminal
[18:56] <xcv> Ab3L: i will try both then XDDD
[18:56] <Ab3L> xcv: if your interface doesn't work anymore and you have to work only with a terminal, irssi is what you need to chat.
[18:56] <TheCyberShocker> Any one?
[18:57] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: can you run applications with sudo?
[18:57] <Ab3L> TheCyberShocker: don't know. i've thrown away my ati and bought a nvidia :)
[18:58] <Ab3L> i go now. bye.
[18:58] <TheCyberShocker> How do i do that xcv, sorry quite new to linux to be fair but windows was doing my head in
[18:58] <xcv> open a terminal and type: sudo echo "This is working"
[18:59] <ghettoblaster> open a terminal and type sudo -i look if that works
[18:59] <TheCyberShocker> Ok
[18:59] <TheCyberShocker> IT works
[18:59] <TheCyberShocker> I saw the message
[18:59] <xcv> okay
[19:00] <TheCyberShocker> How would i get it to try run an application?
[19:00] <xcv> okay
[19:01] <TheCyberShocker> Pardon?
[19:01] <xcv> i need this output: ls /usr/sbin/*ccc* && ls /usr/bin/*ccc*
[19:01] <well_laid_lawn> !sudo
[19:02] <e66> Hello, Is there any sound recorder for KDE. Just like the sound recorder of Ubuntu? But i want a kde version
[19:02] <TheCyberShocker> xcv: says the directory is /usr/share/fglrx/amdccclesu.desktop  by the way
[19:03] <TheCyberShocker> When i try sudo it, it says permission denied
[19:03] <xcv> have you checked if it has executable permissions?
[19:03] <e66> I just found KRec and KRecord is not in repo
[19:04] <TheCyberShocker> xcv: how do i do that, right click the properties?
[19:05] <TheCyberShocker> xcv: it says Only the owner can change the permissions
[19:05] <xcv> what is the content of the file?
[19:05] <TheCyberShocker> Say what?
[19:05] <TheCyberShocker> Its a .desktop or something
[19:06] <xcv> yes, open it with gedit
[19:06] <xcv> and look for the Exec line
[19:07] <TheCyberShocker> I don't see geedit, is it kate?
[19:07] <xcv> any text editor is fine
[19:07] <xcv> i forgot that this was the kubuntu irc and not ubuntu's o_O
[19:08] <TheCyberShocker> xcv: this prehaps? Exec=amdxdg-su -c amdcccle
[19:08] <TheCyberShocker> Lmfao its cool
[19:08] <xcv> yes, in order to open it
[19:08] <xcv> run
[19:08] <TheCyberShocker> Ok so, what now, i see that and the rest is comments
[19:08] <xcv> kdesu amdcccle
[19:08] <TheCyberShocker> Well i see more on top but i don't think thats relevant
[19:09] <xcv> it isn't hahaha
[19:09] <TheCyberShocker> I'm sorry? sorry about this i have no clue =(
[19:09] <TheCyberShocker> What did you mean by kdesu amdcccle?
[19:09] <xcv> nono, you are right
[19:09] <xcv> alt+f2, type that and press enter
[19:10] <xcv> then type your password and you will be in the admin catalyst control center
[19:10] <TheCyberShocker> Omg it worked
[19:10] <TheCyberShocker> Thank you so much!
[19:10] <xcv> np ;)
[19:10] <xcv> if you want it persistant
[19:10] <PasNox> nobody for the grub2 / kdm bug ?
[19:10] <TheCyberShocker> =)
[19:11] <TheCyberShocker> Need to try make a shortcut for it now, before i forget ;)
[19:11] <xcv> kdesu kate /usr/share/fglrx/amdccclesu.desktop
[19:11] <xcv> and edit that line
[19:11] <xcv> Exec=kdesu amdcccle
[19:11] <xcv> save and close kate
[19:11] <TheCyberShocker> Ah
[19:12] <TheCyberShocker> xcv: it says i might not have write permissions
[19:12] <xcv> have you opened it using kdesu kate?
[19:13] <xcv> or just kate?
[19:13] <TheCyberShocker> Oh oops just kate, let me try
[19:13] <biGdIcK> Hi!
[19:13] <hazamonzo> hey folks. How well does the kde twitter widget actually work
[19:13] <hazamonzo> i added it to my desktop
[19:13] <hazamonzo> i've had new tweets and nothing in the widget
[19:13] <hazamonzo> i've configured it too
[19:14] <TheCyberShocker> Ok xcv that worked, thank you so much!
[19:14] <TheCyberShocker> Saved me alot of time, been on it now for a about an hour =(
[19:14] <xcv> you're welcome!! i have used linux for 2 years only, good luck!!
[19:15] <TheCyberShocker> Ive used it for about 2 hours haha =D thank you! and have a great day
[19:15] <xcv> np ;)
[19:15] <PasNox> hazamonzo: it never worked for me too. it worked the first time i configured it. then new tweets never appeared. i deleted the widget...
[19:15] <PasNox> same problem with identi.ca applet
[19:19] <PasNox> anyone trying to have working grub2 dropdown menu in kdm ???
[19:19] <PasNox> and have it working ??
[19:20] <hazamonzo> PasNox: I see. Know if there is a KDE tweetdeck like app?
[19:20] <xcv> PasNox: i think it will be in kde 4.7 but not in 4.6.x
[19:21] <xcv> PasNox: the grub2 compatibility i mean
[19:21] <PasNox> xcv: i never say i'm using kde 4.6 and i explicitly said i use kde sc 4.7 :)
[19:21] <PasNox> hazamonzo: i dunno at all :/ sorry.
[19:22] <xcv> PasNox: sorry i didn't see it, i don't know then o_O
[19:22] <PasNox> xcv: du u have it working ?
[19:22] <PasNox> some friend running open suse have it working
[19:22] <xcv> PasNox: i'm using kde 4.6.2 so i don't
[19:23] <PasNox> ok, thanks.
[19:23] <hazamonzo> PasNox: No worries :)
[19:25] <TheCyberShocker> Lol hey xcv sorry but could you help me again by any chance?
[19:25] <Fanfare> Q:Seems my pulseaudio server gets startet 2 times after reboot. When i kill one of it it works. any hint where to look?
[19:26] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: tell me :)
[19:26] <TheCyberShocker> xcv: ok well, i made it have 2 screens works sorta fine, but how do i switch the primary monitor?
[19:27] <TheCyberShocker> At the moment its left, when id rather the middle
[19:27] <TheCyberShocker> #2 = primary id rather #1 =)
[19:27] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: i can't help you with that, i have never used more than one screen :(
[19:28] <TheCyberShocker> Oh darn, ok thanks, keylock auto on, is in keyboard settings right?
[19:28] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: in the login menu?
[19:28] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: where do you want that behaviour?
[19:29] <TheCyberShocker> For the keyboard the keylock goes off when i reboot
[19:29] <TheCyberShocker> Wait what
[19:29] <TheCyberShocker> LOL
[19:29] <xcv> what? o_o
[19:30] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: okay i think that i know where you could configure the main display
[19:30] <TheCyberShocker> Yay
[19:30] <TheCyberShocker> The onbord display manager don't do nothing =)
[19:30] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: system settings -> screen / display -> main display
[19:30] <TheCyberShocker> On board*
[19:31] <xcv> have you tried it with the open source driver?
[19:31] <TheCyberShocker> Yes
[19:31] <TheCyberShocker> I don't see screen display
[19:31] <TheCyberShocker> Display and monitor?
[19:32] <Snooffy> Guys, if i install anything with KPackageKit it downloads the apps and depencies, and then stays on screen Installing-KPackageIt running task I have to kill it from terminal or restart.. how can i debug it?
[19:32] <Snooffy> !paste
[19:32] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: i suppose i don't have the english localization
[19:32] <TheCyberShocker> =o
[19:33] <Snooffy> this is the screenshot of where it hangs http://imagebin.org/166555
[19:33] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: did it work?
[19:33] <TheCyberShocker> I don't see the setting lol!
[19:33] <xcv> o.o
[19:33] <TheCyberShocker> The display manager kubuntu has don't longer work
[19:34] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: what happens? it is in the bottom of the screen
[19:36] <TheCyberShocker> yeh xcv it does nothing
[19:36] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: what options do you have in the "main display" combobox?
[19:37] <TheCyberShocker> i have, none, dfpt2, and crt2
[19:38] <xcv> TheCyberShocker: and selecting one of them does nothing?
[19:38] <TheCyberShocker> Nope
[19:39] <TheCyberShocker> Odd thing is
[19:39] <TheCyberShocker> Kubuntu says #1 display is left when its ment to be middle
[19:40] <xcv> and when you change the combobox option and applying doesn't change anything? i don't know then, i can't even try it myself, sorry
[19:40] <TheCyberShocker> Lol its ok thanks anyways =o
[19:41] <xcv> np :(
[19:41] <TheCyberShocker> =P
[19:42] <oss5futuretrunks> Hi. I cannot login to my new Kubuntu OS. What do I do?
[19:42] <genii-around> oss5futuretrunks: What happens when you try to log in?
[19:43] <oss5futuretrunks> It says that it is the wrong password. I know that the username and password are correct.
[19:46] <xcv> oss5futuretrunks: can you login in a tty?
[19:46] <genii-around> oss5futuretrunks: I would suggest to boot to rescue , then to run: passwd username                           where username is the one for which it tells you password is bad. Give it a different password. Then to issue: shutdown -r now       which reboots, try login again
[19:47] <kopp> hello
[19:47] <kopp> I can't play Audio CD whit Amarok. :(
[20:09] <markit> hi, normal boot or recovery one makes my screen black (11.04 just installed), how can I boot in console mode directly?
[20:09] <markit> I press shift during boot and I have the grub menu
[20:09] <xcv> markit: have you tried nomodeset?
[20:10] <markit> xcv: what is it and how try it?
[20:11] <xcv> in the grub menu, press "e" and add " nomodeset" in the "linux" line
[20:11] <xcv> then boot with F10 i think
[20:12] <markit> xcv: ok, thanks a lot, I suppose I will need your help later also, because screen works ok if connected with dvi, but if I connect to vga of the monitor and use a dv-vga adapter, it's black
[20:12] <markit> and I need to make it work this way, since I will have to connect to a monitor with ONLY vga once I've prepared the pc
[20:13] <markit> (is for a school, they have to connect to a "magic board")
[20:13] <xcv> markit: i'll be here don't worry, but i'm not an expert :)
[20:13] <markit> xcv: btw, I will try nomodeset, but just to boot without going to graphic?
[20:15] <xcv> in opensuse i remember that adding a " 3" in the same way than nomodeset worked, but in kubuntu i'm not sure; but since it isn't permanent, you have nothing to lose
[20:16] <markit> xcv: with nomodeset I've got the kdm login! The resolution is wrong, but so seems that my problems are due to kms
[20:17] <markit> I should provide a xorg.conf probably (does it disable kms automatically?)
[20:17] <xcv> markit: wait a moment, i will check something
[20:19] <xcv> markit: i think it should be enough, if it doesn't work try xorg.conf and nomodeset together
[20:20] <markit> hope google will give me some reasonable parameters to put there... the try and error is so time consuming :(
[20:22] <xcv> markit: yes, google knows everything ^^'
[20:22] <markit>  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[20:22] <markit> this could be a good starting point
[20:24] <xcv> markit: i think that in (k)ubuntu X11 configuration is in /usr/share/X11
[20:24] <markit> mmm can't understand
[20:25] <markit> should be a "system wide" setup
[20:25] <markit> it's hardware capabilities related
[20:25] <markit> not user's preferences
[20:25] <xcv> markit: yes, i felt a bit bewildered too
[20:25] <markit> in any case, I've copied .failsafe in normal xorg.conf, let's see
[20:26] <markit> no, does not work :(
[20:27] <markit> don't know if does not work because I've not used nomodeset or xorg.conf is not correct
[20:27] <xcv> markit: is there a huge resolution difference between nomodeset and without it?
[20:29] <szal> what are you trying?
[20:30] <xcv> szal: kms is not working properly and with nomodeset he gets a low resolution
[20:30] <szal> making bootloader arguments permanent goes by adding them in /etc/default/grub (the file is well commented, so you should find where to put them), same goes for the VGA resolution, then executing 'sudo update-grub'
[20:31] <szal> and resolution in X should be able to be set up by either the proprietary config tool that comes w/ the graphics driver or, lacking such, XRandR
[20:32] <szal> for the nVidia driver it's normally as easy as 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' and a reboot
[20:32] <xcv> i don't know what is his card
[20:32] <markit> szal: I've a intel hd4000 driver, the problem is I have to use a dvi-vga adapter too
[20:33] <markit> so seems that kms gets confused about the monitor capabilities
[20:33] <markit> (I'm following instructions for add nomodesettings in grub and try to provide correct available resolution to xorg.conf)
[20:34] <genii-around> !info kms
[20:34] <genii-around> Hm
[20:36] <xcv> markit: what resolution does your screen support'
[20:37] <markit> well, I've connected to a fullhd one since has both dvi and vga (I have to make the pc work with vga through the dvi-to-vga adapter)
[20:37] <markit> reboot time, I cross my fingers
[20:38] <markit> mm works but with a low resolution
[20:38] <markit> let me check X.log
[20:39] <markit> I've a pair of "(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument"
[20:40] <markit> mm probably in xorg.conf I've selected framebuffer driver, lol
[20:41] <xcv> try this in your xorg.conf screen section
[20:41] <xcv> Section "Screen"
[20:41] <xcv> DefaultDepth 24
[20:41] <xcv> SubSection "Display"
[20:41] <xcv> Depth 15
[20:41] <FloodBotK1> xcv: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <xcv> Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
[20:42] <xcv> try this in your xorg.conf
[20:42] <xcv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/659531/
[20:44] <xcv> can you see me? i didn't know that i couldn't paste big pieces of text
[20:45] <markit> xcv: I can see you, thanks
[20:45] <markit> was in ssh into the targhet pc
[20:45] <markit> let me see
[20:45] <xcv> okay, sorry :(
[20:45] <xcv> xd
[20:46] <markit> xcv: don't be sorry, without your help I would have been desperate
[20:46] <markit> mmm does not boot graphically now...
[20:46] <markit> I've required a "intel" driver, maybe is not the good string to use
[20:46] <xcv> did you use nomodeset?
[20:47] <markit> yes, I did
[20:47] <markit> I've no clue of what I'm doing
[20:47] <markit> so I've no idea if I'm using conflicting setups
[20:47] <markit> I want NOT the kernel to proble and find the resolution and other stuff
[20:47] <xcv> do you have another similar Screen section?
[20:47] <markit> and xorg.conf to use intel accelerated drivers at max monitor resolution
[20:47] <markit> not for intel, but I can google
[20:48] <markit> I've some old notes about xorg.conf I used in teh past
[20:48] <markit> so I should end with a working config, someway
[20:48] <xcv> ok share them if you don't care, i am a bit weak in X configuration too lol
[20:49] <markit> Driver "intel" shoudl be fine :(
[20:50] <markit> xcv: my notes are in italian, I will give you the final xorg.conf if will ever work :)
[20:50] <xcv> markit: even better :)
[20:51] <xcv> markit: i think it is in xorg.conf.d
[20:53] <markit> in the log I see that loads the intel drivers and then "40.906] (EE) No devices detected."
[20:54] <cher> Hi guys. I'm now for the second time having the same problem, on different machines. I installed kubuntu 11.04 natty narwhal from a USB stick, choosing kubuntu-full. When i logged in for the first time, I'm told there are lots of updates. I accept intalling the updates. The updater then hangs at configuring language-pack-lv-base.
[20:55] <cher> I regret that I started the update with the GUI... I don't see the messages, I have no idea what went wrong, and stopping / restarting it involves significantly more hassle than if I would've used apt-get right from the start.
[20:56] <cher> Maybe someone should get this GUI stuff right. The way it is done now just makes users angry as soon as something fails, because it silently hangs and gives the user absolutely no clue.
[20:57] <xcv> markit: have you tried with vesa? it always works
[20:58] <markit> I want best performances
[20:58] <markit> if I use direct dvi connection, everything works fine
[20:58] <markit> with dvi-vga, I've black screen
[20:58] <markit> so I'm sure chip can work fine and drive my monitor, only the autodetection works badly with the dvi-vga adapter
[20:59] <xcv> could you show your xorg.conf?
[21:05] <markit> yes, let me pastebin
[21:05] <markit> xcv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/659541/
[21:06] <markit> (I'm in the middle of a aptitude full-upgrade right now)
[21:18] <markit> with driver vesa works, but not at correct resolution
[21:19] <xcv> the same as nomodeset i suppose
[21:19] <markit> yes
[21:19] <markit> maybe I have to provide monitor frequencies range
[21:20] <markit> I'll try to boot with dvi, use OSD menu on the monitor to get the correct values, and use then for vga
[21:22] <xcv> sax come back!!! aaargghh.... i don't know, last time i combined nomodeset and http://paste.ubuntu.com/659547 in xorg.conf
[21:24] <markit> xcv: I was wrong.. plugging dvi does not change the fact that at the end the screen is black!
[21:25] <markit> with ksm does not work with vga or dvi direct
[21:25] <xcv> and without both have bad resolution?
[21:27] <markit> I'm confused a lot
[21:28] <Fanfare> Q:Seems my pulseaudio server gets startet 2 times after reboot. When i kill one of it it works. any hint where to look?
[21:29] <markit> in log, it says that [    10.333] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[21:29] <markit> but I've not such a file, I've renamed to have it skipt
[21:29] <xcv> X.org are very confusing to me too, if you tried everything, i just can suggest you to use an old version without kms
[21:32] <markit> now I've ksm, I've moved xorg.conf in /root and turned off and on the pc with dvi
[21:32] <markit> now works fine
[21:33] <markit> so I can grab the frequencies
[21:33] <markit> and try to make it work the same without ksm
[21:33] <xcv> finally lol
[21:33] <markit> mmm it's at 1600x1200 instead of 1920x1080
[21:34] <xcv> xrandr doesn't give the option?
[21:34] <markit> let me check, I'm too ignorant
[21:35] <markit> no, it does not
[21:36] <markit> funny is that 1600x1200 is not supported by the monitor
[21:36] <markit> (1200 > 1080)
[21:36] <markit> I'll try to switch off both this time
[21:44] <markit> damn :(
[21:44] <markit> it works fine with my children's pc, ati card
[21:44] <markit> the same pc and monitor works fine at school
[21:44] <markit> but kubuntu 10.10
[21:44] <markit> wondering if is 11.04 that has some bug
[21:44] <xcv> hmm
[21:45] <xcv> i had the same issue in opensuse
[21:45] <xcv> sax2 solved the problem in 11.2
[21:45] <xcv> but until 12.2 it won't be back
[21:48] <markit> xcv: how on earth can I tell the horizontal and vertical sync values for my monitor?
[21:49] <markit> I'm googling for some dataseet but...
[21:49] <markit> samsung 2494hs
[21:49] <markit> mm maybe xrandr from my children's pc
[21:49] <xcv> in my old xorg.conf
[21:50] <xcv> i have horizontal sync in monitor section HorizSync 30-83
[21:50] <markit> isn't 2011 and still setting screen and audio is a nightmare?
[21:50] <xcv> i suppose vertical should be similar
[21:51] <xcv> yes, maybe with wayland in the future...
[21:53] <markit> if they loose network transparencies, another GNU/Linux advantage will be thrown away
[21:53] <markit> and my ltsp school servers will never work again
[21:53] <markit> but back to my problem
[21:54] <markit> xrands seems not to provide invo about sync values in use
[21:54] <markit> or better supported ranges
[21:54] <xcv> have you tried that in your xorg.conf?
[21:57] <markit> I've the fear of damage the monitor
[21:58] <tonymc> anyone has experience with PPA's?
[21:59] <tonymc> i wrote a program, and i would like to make a package of it. i've looked through debian's packaging manual, but there's way too much information for me to comprehend that...
[21:59] <xcv> markit: yes, it's a problem, have you tried lucid? it still has longer support than natty
[21:59] <markit> xcv: I need some updated software
[21:59] <yofel> tonymc: packaging help is in #ubuntu-packaging
[21:59] <tonymc> thanks
[22:00] <markit> btw, lspci does not show intel 4000 or something like that
[22:00] <markit> even if is a i3 540 so sure it is
[22:00] <markit> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:01] <xcv> markit: i'm sorry, i don't have more ideas
[22:04] <markit> xcv: don't worry, you have been really helpful, thanks a lot
[22:04] <markit> I'm really depressed, I HAVE to make it work
[22:04] <markit> and I'm wasting 2 days in useless tests just for something should work "out of the box"
[22:05] <markit> sometime I thing that regressions are killing my love to GNU/Linux world
[22:05] <markit> if you update, you will never know not if NEW features work fine, but if work at all the ones you relies on
[22:05] <markit> well, not enough energy for ranting, lol, too tired
[23:00] <xcv> Hi
[23:04] <xcv> I have an atheros integrated wifi card and I need a kernel update (to 2.6.39) in order to fix a bug in the ath9x driver but when I added the ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa I saw that it was empty and I am a newbie in kernel updates. Can anybody help me?
[23:10] <xcv> anybody?
[23:24] <xcv> Hello?
[23:24] <xcv> I have an atheros integrated wifi card and I need a kernel update (to 2.6.39) in order to fix a bug in the ath9x driver but when I added the ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa I saw that it was empty and I am a newbie in kernel updates. Can anybody help me?
[23:30] <markit> xcv: I've no idea, but googling I've got
[23:30] <markit> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[23:30] <markit> sudo apt-get update
[23:30] <markit> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.39-0 linux-headers-2.6.39-0-generic linux-image-2.6.39-0-generic --fix-missing
[23:31] <markit> should work... does not?
[23:31] <xcv> markit: i added that repository but then i checked it and it is empty, so i don't know what to do
[23:32] <markit> how did you checked? did you issued an apt-get update?
[23:33] <xcv> yes, and I browsed through all the folders of the ppa, they only contain empty Packages.gz files
[23:39] <xcv> do you have some idea?
[23:50] <xcv> anybody?
[23:51] <SIR_Taco> I'm not quite anybody, but I am somebody... what's the problem xcv
[23:52] <xcv> I have an atheros integrated wifi card and I need a kernel update (to 2.6.39) in order to fix a bug in the ath9x driver but when I added the ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa I saw that it was empty and I am a newbie in kernel updates. What should i do?
[23:54] <SIR_Taco> xcv: what kernel are you trying to update to?
[23:55] <xcv> i'm using 2.6.38-10-generic-pae and i need 2.6.39-x
[23:55] <SIR_Taco> what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[23:56] <xcv> i'm using the last one, 11.04 natty narwhal
[23:57] <SIR_Taco> xcv: ok, how are you updating? through the console or through a GUI?
[23:58] <xcv> SIR_Taco: console, as i saw, i did: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[23:59] <xcv> then, I searched the linux-generic-pae package through all the ways I know but I just find my current version. I went to launchpad, browsed the ppa and the only file that i could see were empty Packages.gz


[06:16] <anastasiamac> a trivial review plz - https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10445
[09:28] <manadart> Need a review for adding space ID to juju/description: https://github.com/juju/description/pull/56
[22:29] <hpidcock> anastasiamac: looking
[22:41] <hpidcock> anastasiamac: LGTM just two small changes please.
[23:00] <hpidcock> manadart: LGTM one non-critical comment.
[23:01] <anastasiamac> hpidcock: thnx i'll look but it was literary just movinf existing code into callable funcs
[23:02] <hpidcock> the comments were on new code from what I could see in the diff.
[23:03] <hpidcock> maybe changes from another PR, since we have such a huge backlog
[23:12] <anastasiamac> hpidcock: no, all good.. english is improtant and ur commented on my msg modification and var name.. good calls both


[08:52] <mncheck> focal 5.14.0-1051-oem x86_64, generic question: trying to come up with something to show uid,euid and command that makes the call to mount.cifs, but using tracefs nop tracer on sys_enter_mount got me the pid only which is gone by the time I try to ps it, could you suggest something?
[08:55] <mncheck> may have got mount.cifs from sys_enter_execve or hist .execname . I'm trying to pin down a stuck expired credential that spams the server without having session process on the client, according to ps


[01:09] <yuriy> well, the printer applet works very nicely
[06:33] <Hobbsee> ah ha.  a kde4 install.
[06:34] <Hobbsee> why are there 2 "about kubuntu" links shown on the desktop, when one dosen't work?
[10:49] <awen_> wauw, launchpad is really really slow today!
[10:54] <Arby> awen_: expected to be that way until monday according to the topic in #launchpad
[10:54] <awen_> Arby: thanks for the info ... sad :(
[10:55] <Arby> I suppose they have to do this stuff at some point
[10:56] <awen_> yeah ... but trying to communicate with bug reporters is quite a bit hard
[10:56] <Arby> indeed
[11:03] <seezer> fuck
[11:03] <seezer> that's not what i wanted to do
[11:03] <jussio1> hehe
[11:04] <seezer> *searching the old one*
[11:05] <jussio1> poor seezer
[11:05] <seezer> note to my self: quassel is not irssi
[11:05] <seezer> sorry
[11:07] <jussio1> seezer: Ive done that before :D
[11:07] <jussio1> seezer: how are you finding quassel?
[11:07] <seezer> great
[11:07]  * jussio1 huggles quassle
[11:07] <seezer> i really like the backlog feature
[11:07] <jussio1> yeah,  its great :D
[11:08] <jussio1> cant wait for plugins
[11:08] <seezer> but i'm again doing everything but learning for my exams..
[11:09] <seezer> so we'll talk later perhaps.. :)
[11:09] <jussio1> ok, have fun
[11:09] <seezer> haha.
[11:09] <seezer> thanks anyway ;)
[11:10] <awen_> ScottK: I have a solution for bug 218889 ... or at least I'm pretty sure I have, just need confirmation from the bug reporter, that it works
[11:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218889 in kde-guidance "[hardy] brightness on KDE jumps from 100% -> 42% -> 0%" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218889
[14:10] <ScottK> awen_: Great.  I'll be out most of the day, so look to Riddell to see about sponsorship.  I'm generally in favor of making brightness work better.
[14:16] <awen_> ScottK: i'll wait for a reply before doing anything ... the bug reporter generally responds pretty quick, so hopefully i'll have an answer tonight
[15:00] <DreadKnight> any MOTUs around?
[15:01] <Hobbsee> no.
[15:01]  * Hobbsee sees you're getting an answer in -motu
[15:27] <sourcemaker_> here I am
[15:28] <sourcemaker_> Media Device: failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted at /mnt/ipod: Permission denied... error in amarok... what's wrong?
[15:28] <sourcemaker_> here is my fstab: /dev/sde2       /mnt/ipod       vfat    rw,user         0       0
[15:31] <eagles0513875> is launchpad down
[15:32] <Hobbsee> yes.
[15:32] <eagles0513875> ahhhh ok
[15:33] <Hobbsee> has been for hte last 13 hours.
[15:33] <Hobbsee> [00:32] *** mpt sets the channel topic to "Launchpad is mostly down, IS staff are fixing it | https://launchpad.net/ || Next meeting, all welcome: Thu 24 April 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Questions and spam reports: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com".
[15:34] <eagles0513875> damn it i need to link someone that amarok bug that i fixed but was wishlisted
[15:35] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: do you remember the bug im talking about
[15:35] <Hobbsee> only vaguely
[15:35] <Hobbsee> and not the number
[15:38] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: lol thats what im trying to get is to find out the dependency to get ipods to work with amarok
[15:38] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: you remember what that dependency was by any chance
[15:38] <Hobbsee> no
[15:39] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: now i changed to fstab and it's working: /dev/sde2       /mnt/ipod       vfat    defaults,user,noauto,sync,umask=000
[15:39] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: but very slow
[15:39] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: and the progressbar in amarok does show nothing :-)
[15:39] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: im having issues getting to look at my bug the sites down
[15:39] <sourcemaker_> eagles0513875: ok
[15:39] <eagles0513875> sourcemaker_: lets take it back into the other channel plz
[15:42] <Nightrose> eagles0513875: if you tell me something i can search for in my bugmail I can give you the number and a link
[15:42] <Nightrose> I have all amarok bugmails archived
[15:43] <eagles0513875> Nightrose: remember there was a bug that someone wanted the ipod dependency re added to the amarok pkg
[15:43] <Nightrose> yes
[15:43] <eagles0513875> can u find that bug for me plz
[15:43]  * Nightrose slaps eagles0513875
[15:43] <Nightrose> and yes I can have a look
[15:43]  * eagles0513875 slaps self again
[15:43] <Nightrose> give me a sec
[15:44] <eagles0513875> Nightrose: thanks
[15:44] <Nightrose> [Bug 217441] [NEW] Recommends/Depends on kdebase-kio-plugins for iPod autodetection
[15:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 217441 in amarok "Recommends/Depends on kdebase-kio-plugins for iPod autodetection " [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217441
[15:44] <Nightrose> this one?
[15:45]  * Hobbsee notes that recommends don't get installed by default for non-metapackages.
[15:46] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: it was either a suggests/ recommends thing 2 people fixed the same thing but 2 different ways not sure what was released though
[15:46] <eagles0513875> Nightrose: thats it thanks a bunch
[15:46] <Nightrose> you're welcome
[15:46] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: then have a look at hte changelog.
[15:47] <eagles0513875> ok
[15:47] <Hobbsee> that's what it's for.
[16:35] <jeroen-> Riddell: I added some info at bug
[16:35] <jeroen-> #203334
[16:35] <jeroen-> bug 203334
[16:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 203334 in scim-bridge "scim-bridge-client-qt4 requires scim" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203334
[16:35] <jeroen-> maybe it can help
[17:12] <eagles0513875> does anyone know if the flash issue with firefox2 and the flash plugin in gutsy has been resolved
[17:24]  * Nightrose suggests eagles0513875reads the relevant changelog and checks if there is something noteworthy
[19:31] <stdin> someone should fix shipit.kubuntu.org: "I want to download and test the beta version of 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron)" and "I want to pre-order CDs of Kubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron)" should not have LTS in them
[19:31] <Riddell> stdin: well spotted
[19:34] <Ped> I wonder, are the iso preRC tested enough already, or why the files are already missing? ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all )
[19:38] <davmor2> Ped: sorry what is your issue?
[19:40] <Ped> davmor2: click on the CD icon next to some version (for example KDE4 Desktop at the bottom), there's direct download link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/daily-live/20080417.1/hardy-desktop-i386.iso which leads to Not Found page.
[19:41] <davmor2> Ped: that's because 17.1 isn't on the servers anymore
[19:41] <Ped> davmor2: yes. And I wonder why, so is the iso testing closed already, or should people test more fresh files, or? (I'm sort of new to iso testing)
[19:43] <Riddell> Ped: rc has been released
[19:43] <Riddell> see kubuntu.org
[19:44] <Ped> I see, thanks for explanation
[19:48] <davmor2> Right in general what happens is 2 days before the release we start testing like made find bug they get fixed and we restart.  This time however we were able to blitz the lot over thursday and friday so the the cd's are updated to become rc at which point the old ones are removed and it starts counting again from there.  So on the server you currently have 19th 20th. next batch of testing starts Tomorrow though so fe
[20:03] <Ped> davmor2: The RC is identical to 17.1, so if I take the daily-live/20080420, it will be closer to final (and more important to test), or the RC may become the final anyway?
[20:07] <davmor2> Ped: Rc is never the final. The image the day before final may become final as long as there are no issues but there have already been a batch of updates since Friday.  So yes you can test today's image but tomorrow you test is null.  As there maybe more updates in the mean time.
[20:08] <Ped> davmor2: my test may be null, but if I report bug, it will be hardly null... :) and I'm not sure when I will have time to test again. If I will even manage to burn iso now, as it looks my CD-RW medium is nearing it's end of life. (either that or my burner :/) :D
[20:10] <davmor2> Ped: Any testing is welcome and of course any bugs reported help the *buntu family out so go for it, if you can of course :)
[20:10] <Nightrose> cheguevara_: you pinged me the other day - what was it about?
[20:10] <cheguevara_> let me try to remember lol
[20:10] <Nightrose> hehe
[20:10] <cheguevara_> it was something amarok related
[20:11] <cheguevara_> oh yeah i cant build trunk
[20:11] <Nightrose> ok what is the problem?
[20:11] <cheguevara_> sec let me make it come up again
[20:11] <Nightrose> ok
[20:11] <cheguevara_> CMake Error: This project requires some variables to be set,
[20:11] <cheguevara_> and cmake can not find them.
[20:11] <cheguevara_> Please set the following variables:
[20:11] <cheguevara_> TAGLIB_INCLUDES
[20:12] <Nightrose> looks like you don't have taglib 1.5
[20:12] <Nightrose> which you need
[20:13] <cheguevara_> -- Found taglib: -L/home/kde-devel/kde/lib -ltag
[20:13] <cheguevara_> installed it from kdesupport
[20:14] <Nightrose> hmm then I don't know
[20:14] <Nightrose> sorry
[20:14] <cheguevara_> kk thx anyway
[20:58] <jjesse> afternoon
[21:32] <tsb> Hi. I run  kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-proposed" however "version upgrade" does not appear (gutsy to heron). I've tried a few sources.list settings, from just gutsy to gutsy-updates etc.. Any idea what's wrong?
[21:32] <tsb> Actually I am pretty sure this happened to me last time as well (going from 7.04 to 7.10), but I don't remember quite what was done to make it work.
[21:34] <tsb> I think I had to explicitly write the next version number in some file
[21:34] <tsb>  /etc/lsb-release has 7.10 etc.
[21:40] <Riddell> tsb: try --dist-upgrade-devel
[21:40] <tsb> Riddell: works!
[21:41] <tsb> Riddell: thank you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu said "proposed", which is why I used it.
[21:41] <Riddell> hmm, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-proposed hasn't been updated
[21:42] <tsb> Riddell: ah, that was the file I had to edit last time. :)
[21:50] <etretyak> Riddell: hi! we are late with patch for user disk mounting in kde4. right?
[21:53] <Riddell> etretyak: this one? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/kde4libs/4:4.0.3-0ubuntu4
[21:56] <etretyak> so we don't :)
[21:56] <etretyak> but i don't see any updates
[22:10] <Riddell> etretyak: I have it here
[22:10] <Riddell> probably just your mirror
[22:14] <etretyak> Riddell: hm.. i see deb file in my apt cache archive: kdelibs5_4%3a4.0.3-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[22:15] <etretyak> but i don't see any changes in my libsolid.so.4.0.0
[22:16] <etretyak> Riddell: grep kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libsolid.so.4.0.0
[22:17] <etretyak> no matches
[22:20] <Riddell> hmm
[22:21] <etretyak> Riddell: i think we forgot to add kubuntu_06_..
[22:21] <etretyak> in series
[22:22] <Riddell> mm, it's not in debian/patches/series
[22:23] <etretyak> right
[22:24] <Riddell> uploading fix
[22:24] <etretyak> thanks!
[23:58] <vistasucks> does kubuntu have wat ubuntu hardy has like The memory randomizer thingy?
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> vistasucks: yes... tis a kernel level thing


[03:54] <murthy> gwenview snap app doesn't open webp
[05:18] <mborzecki> morning
[06:48] <mborzecki> mvo: morning
[06:49] <mvo> hey mborzecki !
[06:49] <mvo> mborzecki: anything I can help with before my first cup of tea :) ?
[06:49] <mborzecki> mvo: are you grumpy before or after your cup of tea? :P
[06:50] <mvo> all the time!
[06:50] <mborzecki> haha
[06:50] <mborzecki> mvo: maybe this one: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8999 if github does not 500 on you like it does on me
[06:50] <mup> PR #8999: strutil: add a helper for parsing kernel command line <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8999>
[06:51] <mvo> mborzecki: ok
[06:51] <mborzecki> mvo: thanks!
[07:04] <pstolowski> morning
[07:07] <mvo> good morning pstolowski
[07:14] <pstolowski> o/
[07:15] <mborzecki> pstolowski: heya
[07:20] <mvo> hey pstolowski
[07:23] <zyga> hmm
[07:23] <zyga> it's not a good sing
[07:23] <zyga> sign*
[07:23] <zyga> when github is down on Monday morning
[07:23] <pstolowski> oh
[07:23] <zyga> oh well
[07:24] <zyga> how are you guys feeling?
[07:25] <mvo> feeling good (a bit tired) but GH down is a bummer
[07:26] <zyga> mvo same feeling, though for different reasons
[07:26] <mvo> zyga: i can imagine
[07:26]  * mvo hugs zyga
[07:26] <zyga> painkillers wear off pretty quickly so mornings are a bit so-so
[07:26] <zyga> I will ask for replacements if possible today
[07:27] <zyga> but I think I slept better than yesterday which was again awful
[07:27] <zyga> so I'm not that tired
[07:55] <pstolowski> i didn't sleep too well last night (woke up at 2.00 to check news re elections)
[07:55] <pstolowski> and then couldn't sleep
[07:55] <pstolowski> was such a bummer
[08:08] <mborzecki> meh, github still down
[08:08] <mborzecki> get an angry unicorn or 500 octocat :/
[08:17] <jamesh> it seems to be slightly functional: https://www.githubstatus.com/
[08:17] <jamesh> it let me create a pull request moments ago
[08:18] <mup> PR snapcraft#3211 opened: pluginhandler: fix stage-snaps for v2 plugins <Created by jhenstridge> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3211>
[08:28] <pstolowski> just started working here
[08:32] <mborzecki> yay
[08:33] <mborzecki> tbh funny how github become a single point of failure ;)
[08:37] <jamesh> Switch to a distributed bug tracker?
[08:38] <zyga-mbp> re
[08:38] <zyga-mbp> if only distributed bug trackers came with nice usable UX
[08:38] <zyga-mbp> oh well
[08:40] <mborzecki> zyga-mbp: can you take a look at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8996 ?
[08:41] <mup> PR #8996: packaging, cmd/snap-mgmt, tests: remove modules files on purge <Bug> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8996>
[08:41] <zyga-mbp> trying
[08:41] <zyga-mbp> yeah, loads now
[08:41] <zyga-mbp> ah that
[08:41] <zyga-mbp> I really think we should remove snaps for real
[08:41] <zyga-mbp> did you see the comment from jamie?
[08:41] <zyga-mbp> +1
[08:42] <mborzecki> yup, i think we got everything he listed covered now
[08:43] <zyga-mbp> mborzecki including the udev rules?
[08:44] <zyga-mbp> if so that's great
[08:44] <mborzecki> zyga-mbp:             find /etc/udev/rules.d -name "*-snap.${snap}.rules" -execdir rm -f "{}" \;
[08:44] <zyga-mbp> ok
[08:47] <mup> PR snapd#8996 closed: packaging, cmd/snap-mgmt, tests: remove modules files on purge <Bug> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8996>
[08:48] <zyga-mbp> woah, thank you for the review on https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8977 guys!
[08:48] <mup> PR #8977: cmd/snap: track started apps and hooks <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8977>
[08:52] <mvo> zyga-mbp: do you think you could review 8949 and 8950 again? it looks like sergio addressed the comments
[08:53] <zyga-mbp> sure
[08:53] <mvo> mborzecki: 8959 looks like something for you :)
[08:59] <mborzecki> mvo: yeah, high time for me to go over it
[08:59] <mborzecki> pstolowski: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8995#discussion_r453497664 snapd is running as root, so we'd take up the space reserved for root too
[08:59] <mup> PR #8995: osutil: add CheckFreeSpace helper (1/N) <Disk space awareness> <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8995>
[09:37] <mup> PR snapd#8978 closed: secboot: update tpm connection error handling <UC20> <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8978>
[09:45] <zyga-mbp> reviewed https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8949#pullrequestreview-447087507
[09:45] <mup> PR #8949: tests: new fs-state which replaces the files.sh helper <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8949>
[09:47] <mup> PR snapd#9000 opened: postrm, snap-mgmt: cleanup modules and other cherry-picks (2.45) <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9000>
[09:47] <mborzecki> ha, next one is over 9000
[09:49] <zyga-mbp> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8950#pullrequestreview-447098901
[09:49] <mup> PR #8950: tests: new to-one-line tool which replaces the strings.sh helper <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8950>
[09:50] <zyga-mbp> mborzecki can you review https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8949 please
[09:50] <mup> PR #8949: tests: new fs-state which replaces the files.sh helper <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8949>
[09:50] <zyga-mbp> mainly to see how you feel about the helpers
[09:50] <zyga-mbp> I'm happy to see most of them, but one
[09:51] <mborzecki> whis this be some snap declaration related thing? https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/finding-reason-for-stopped-snap-service-at-bootup/18785/8
[09:52] <zyga-mbp> yeah
[09:52] <zyga-mbp> commented
[09:55] <zyga-mbp> small break for coffee and back to branches
[10:17] <zyga-mbp> pstolowski https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8995#pullrequestreview-447118858
[10:17] <mup> PR #8995: osutil: add CheckFreeSpace helper (1/N) <Disk space awareness> <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8995>
[10:17] <zyga-mbp> pstolowski including https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8995#discussion_r453545090
[10:18] <pstolowski> zyga-mbp: thank you!
[10:26] <pstolowski> thanks for the reviews, i'll land this and push next one
[10:28] <zyga-mbp> ok
[11:24] <mborzecki> hmm unit tests in 2.45 branch aren't passing
[11:25] <mborzecki> oh, w8, that's soem directory that's not going away when i switch branches
[11:36] <zyga> huh?
[11:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#3212 opened: tests: expand spread coverage for stage-snaps <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3212>
[11:53] <mup> PR snapd#8995 closed: osutil: add CheckFreeSpace helper (1/N) <Disk space awareness> <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8995>
[12:08] <mup> PR snapd#9001 opened: o/snapshotstate: helpers for calculating disk space needed for an automatic snapshot (2/N) <Disk space awareness> <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9001>
[12:28] <mup> PR snapd#9002 opened: o/snapstate: integrate free space checks with install/refresh and remove (3/N) <Disk space awareness> <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9002>
[12:39] <mborzecki> zyga: have you looked at the failures on centos-8 maybe? i'm trying to reproduce them, but the failing tests pass in isolation
[12:39] <mborzecki> zyga: and the problems seem to be related to user sessions
[12:39] <mborzecki> zyga: eg. this one https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/runs/864831282
[12:40] <zyga> I have not
[12:45] <zyga> mborzecki 2020-07-13T11:32:11.5181452Z Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory
[12:45] <zyga> mborzecki I saw this a few times
[12:45] <zyga> mborzecki perhaps test history is useful
[12:45] <zyga> long so I won't paste it here
[12:46] <mborzecki> zyga: trying to run the same set of tests as the one that failed
[12:46] <zyga> mborzecki try -seed
[12:46] <mborzecki> zyga: i'm using cachio's spread build :P
[12:46] <zyga> aha
[12:47] <mborzecki> cmatsuoka: hi, can you take a look at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8999 ?
[12:47] <mup> PR #8999: strutil: add a helper for parsing kernel command line <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8999>
[12:48] <cmatsuoka> mborzecki: sure, will do it as soon as I finish some fixes here
[12:48] <mborzecki> cmatsuoka: cool, thanks!
[12:58] <mborzecki> heh, adding some tests to bootloader, noticed we have no covarge of GetRecoverySystemEnv
[13:01] <zyga> omw
[13:43] <zyga> sorry about all the yawning
[13:43] <zyga> I need more coffee
[13:43] <zyga> elections elections elections
[14:02] <mup> Bug #1887238 changed: snap fails to reload udev rules in docker <docker> <udev> <Snappy:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887238>
[14:11]  * zyga lunch
[14:33] <mup> PR snapd#9003 opened: bootloader: add helper for getting recovery system environment variables <Simple 😃> <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9003>
[14:34] <mborzecki> cmatsuoka: if you could also take a look at ^^ this is for the tweaks in 8993
[14:37] <cmatsuoka> mborzecki: ok!
[14:37] <mborzecki> cmatsuoka: it's super simple and hopefully can land easily
[14:37] <mborzecki> cmatsuoka: thanks
[14:48] <mup> PR snapd#8999 closed: strutil: add a helper for parsing kernel command line <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8999>
[14:48] <mup> PR snapd#9000 closed: postrm, snap-mgmt: cleanup modules and other cherry-picks (2.45) <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9000>
[14:53] <cachio> zyga, hey, is it ok #8991 now?
[14:53] <mup> PR #8991: tests: preinstall shellcheck and run tests on focal <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8991>
[14:53] <zyga> yes :)
[14:58] <mup> PR snapd#8991 closed: tests: preinstall shellcheck and run tests on focal <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8991>
[15:28]  * cachio lunch
[16:14] <mup> PR snapd#9003 closed: bootloader: add helper for getting recovery system environment variables <Simple 😃> <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9003>
[18:09] <mup> PR snapd#9004 opened: bootloader/bootloadertest: fix comment typo <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9004>
[20:20] <mup> PR snapd#9004 closed: bootloader/bootloadertest: fix comment typo <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9004>
[23:25] <mup> PR snapcraft#3097 closed: colcon v2 plugin + ros2 extension <do-not-merge> <enhancement> <Created by cjp256> <Closed by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3097>


[13:14] <cyphermox> nebuchadnezzar: if you're preseeding, have you considered booting from the network? it may be easier to get systems to have all the exact options you want them to have (and further reduces user interaction a bit, or you can also set up custom settings there a bit more easily)
[13:14] <cyphermox> of course netboot isn't necessarily practical in all situations
[13:26] <nebuchadnezzar> cyphermox: unfortunately, it's not practical for our users, they boot the ISO, either from CDROM or USB key, chosse a boot entry, then everything is automated
[13:26] <cyphermox> ok
[13:26] <nebuchadnezzar> that was great until now, some of them want to choose something in the automated process, without doing a full manual installation
[13:27] <cyphermox> well, let me know if there's anything interesting you come up with that could be integrated in the official ISOs.
[13:28] <nebuchadnezzar> it looks like hooking into F6 is complicated, far too much for just adding a flag
[13:51] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Hi.
[13:52] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Saw you were looking at the oem-config issue.
[13:52] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, See my comment - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1436937/comments/4
[13:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, oem-config started misbehaving after the dvd-eject was partly fixed. Prior to that fix, oem-config worked for me on 26th.
[13:58] <cyphermox> well, I'm using the same image to debug both
[13:58] <cyphermox> but I'm not using the MATE image, I'm using the straight ubuntu one
[13:59] <cyphermox> (both softwares are also not related)
[14:00] <cyphermox> in other words, I was using the exact same image as jibel
[14:00] <cyphermox> it wasn't working *great*, but the oem user did get removed
[14:01] <cyphermox> (or so it seemed)
[14:11] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, There is an OEM who will soon be shipping Ubuntu MATE pre-installed. So I am prepared to help fix this.
[14:11] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, What can I do to assist?
[14:14] <cyphermox> well, you can re-run the procedure and watch whether it shows anything on the VTs as oem-config-prepare was run, before rebooting; also after rebooting when it normally does the removals and asks for the new user details before rebooting again
[14:15] <flexiondotorg> So, use the current daily?
[14:17] <cyphermox> yes
[14:18] <cyphermox> ugh, if this isn't going to start going better I'll add a 30 second timeout to press enter otherwise reboot automatically :)
[17:25] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Please try OEM config with Ubuntu MATE. You'll see the way it fails is different to Ubuntu. But this was working perfectly a couple of days ago.
[17:25] <cyphermox> ok
[17:25] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I'm going to do what I can to test this over the weekend and gather some data. But please do test Ubuntu MATE. "Bad stuff" happens.
[17:31] <cyphermox> sure
[17:32] <cyphermox> I'll be getting to it shortly, I either will get the fix for the Enter key shortly or give up for now and look at MATE before I go insane
[17:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Thanks.
[19:02] <cyphermox> *sigh* if only more systems still shipped with serial ports