[01:28] <Observiing> Hey, I'm hoping someone could help me get my port to boot. The build looks good as far as i know and  installs correctly but I cant seem to get it to boot. Ive added all the cmdline arguements to boot referencing a similar port. The only thing I have noticed that stands out is that using the recovery built with the build, the recovery didnt mount /data and /cache partitions, i had to mount them manually in an adb shell prior t
[01:30] <Observiing> TWRP does mount the partions automatically, everything installs. but it doesnt boot. I can enter recovery afterwards but cant pull any logs. I can see the system.img in /data and loop mount it, and everything is there.
[01:31] <Observiing> would anyone know what avenue atleast to look into to resolve this please?
[01:35] <kz6fittycent> mariogrip is your best bet
[01:39] <Observiing> Thanks, hopefully he'll drop in
[01:40] <kz6fittycent> I think he's in Europe and probably asleep. "I THINK"
[01:40] <Observiing> I'm also in Europe but wide awake lol
[01:40] <kz6fittycent> https://ubports.com/
[01:40] <kz6fittycent> I assume you've been to that site...
[01:41] <Observiing> yes
[01:41] <kz6fittycent> okay, just checking
[01:42] <Observiing> I haven't been able to post on that site for some reason
[01:42] <Observiing> it just hangs
[01:42] <kz6fittycent> hmm, I usually see him during the ubuntu-on-air show
[01:44] <Observiing> ok thank you, perhaps someone else might be able to help at some point, no rush
[01:45] <kz6fittycent> good luck
[01:45] <Observiing> thank you
[07:03] <frankg> goodmorning all, want to share a problem with my Meizu mx4
[07:16] <frankg> anybody?
[07:16] <Coolguy42> yes?
[07:16] <frankg> allright, I have no cellular data anymore since OTA-12
[07:17] <frankg> I cannot toggle the switch cellular data. It is disabled
[07:18] <frankg> both cellular data and Data roaming toggleswitches are disabled
[07:18] <duflu> frankg: It seems you're not alone. Please join in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1609055
[07:21] <duflu> frankg: Sorry, please check bug 1607079 and bug 1598010
[07:21] <duflu> Both have fixes targeted for OTA-13
[07:22] <frankg> fix for ota-13??? that is in at least one month from now
[07:24] <duflu> frankg: I know. Sometimes fixes come out sooner but regardless we have to start by targeting the next whole number
[07:25] <duflu> I'm still waiting on OTA-13 to fix broken wifi too (bug 1588126)
 ah ok
[07:45]  * mcphail votes for an OTA12.5 to try to fix those significant regressions
[07:50] <duflu> I'm not sure when OTA-13 is due but I do know we had to take a short-cut in Mir releases and do a 0.23.5 release because 0.24.0 would not have made it in time. So OTA-13 sounds soon
[07:51] <mcphail> Aah. I dimly remember someone saying OTA12--13 would be a longer gap than usual, but I'm probably havering
[07:57] <duflu> The official target date is apparently three weeks away: https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/13
[08:40] <yakaar> Hello everybody, I have a big problem with my Aquaris E4.5 ubuntu edition : I made an update and it ask me to reboot my mobile. But when the update was done, it didn't boot and it stop on the screen ubuntu is working infinite. How to repare this ?? BQ support is not responding when I call them !
[08:41] <yakaar> is someone can help me ??
[08:43] <k1l> the reboot after an update can take a bit longer
[08:45] <yakaar> but when it take days ??
[08:48] <yakaar> and doesn't work after one week ?? I test to shutdown, wipe cache and even I'm trying to see what I could do in fastboot
[08:49] <k1l> well. then i would reflash the ubuntu system
[08:51] <yakaar1> k1l:  have you any idea how I could repare this ? else than wipe datas??
[08:54] <k1l> hard to say without any erroremessagesa
[08:54] <k1l> did you do the ota update? did you enable the reawrite on the / partition? did you use apt-get?
[08:59] <yakaar> I didn't do the ota update, but I did this command sometimes : mount -rw -o remount /  and yes I used apt-get, but it was long time ago
[09:00] <k1l> wait, what update did you mean then?
[09:03] <yakaar> I don't know exactly if it is the OTA, my mobile was bugging and I searched the way to debug it. I went to the update center and found a main update of the system to do. I did it and it cannot work now
[09:04] <k1l> that sounds like the ota12 update
[09:05] <k1l> and making the / rw is known to cause issues on regular ota updates.
[09:06] <yakaar> how to repare this ??
[09:14] <yakaar> is it possible to repare it ??
[09:20] <yakaar> k1l: have you any solutions ?? or must I wipe data/ factory reset my mobile ?? I would like to backup my datas is it possible ??
[09:21] <k1l> yakaar: i dont know. sorry. i only have a nexus4 with ubuntu and there the OTA worked fine
[09:24] <yakaar> ok I will try again to call BQ support
[09:29] <duflu> Someone should have told yakaar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5
[09:30] <raph_ael> if he has support, he should ask them before
[09:34] <k1l> duflu: doesnt that wipe data?
[09:37] <popey> k1l: if you --wipe or --bootstrap, but you don't have to
[09:38] <k1l> ah ok
[12:00] <robinhero> hey guys, the power button isn't working perfect on my Nexus4. Is there a way to I can unlock it with double tap or some other gesture? Sometimes I need to push it to hard and I think it will be worse by time...
[12:01] <Mister_Q> robinhero no there are no gestures or double tap yet
[13:14] <robinhero> Mister_Q, sorry for the late reply, but is there a bugWhistlist report for this on Launchpad?
[13:15] <robinhero> it would be very useful
[13:15] <robinhero> If there's no bugrepot, I'll fill one
[13:15] <Mister_Q> just file a bug on launchpad against canonical system image
[13:22] <Colin__> Hello ? um.. I'm Colin. I get a trouble now. I tried "rm -rf /" and erased all files on my Meizu mx4 ubuntu. And I tried "ubuntu-device-flash ...... --bootstrap" to reinstall OS. But I'm failed. What should I do? How can I reinstall Ubuntu touch? Why it printed "recovery can't flash" on fastboot screen when I tried reinstall OS?
[13:26] <mcphail> Colin__: I don't think you can reflash with the default recovery, which has adb disabled. You may need to install a recovery with adb activated. I had to do this on my bq phone
[13:26] <Mister_Q> Colin__ see https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool . the tool tells you exactly what to do
[13:26] <popey> ooooh
[13:26] <popey> the first outing of Mister_Q's magic tool :)
[13:27] <Colin__> >.<
[13:27] <popey> if this was telegram I'd paste https://imgur.com/YsbKHg1h
[13:27] <Colin__> thx
[13:27] <Mister_Q> popey, haha I had to :D I wrote it exactly for that usecase ;)
[13:28] <mcphail> Mister_Q: neat!
[13:28] <Mister_Q> It also contains a cool tool by popey ;)
[13:29] <popey> \o/
[13:29] <Mister_Q> I hoped you believed Marius Quabeck and Mister_Q are different persons because I only messaged you on telegram yet :D
[13:29] <popey> can you also credit Stuart Langridge for that, we worked on it together, thanks :)
[13:29]  * popey introduces Mister_Q to /whois
[13:29] <popey> 14:29 [freenode] -!-  ircname  : Marius Quabeck
[13:29] <popey> I know all :)
[13:30] <popey> even people who come in here with different nicknames each week :)
[13:30]  * mcphail enjoys pretending to be popey when he goes away on holidays. Much havok to wreak
[13:32] <Mister_Q> popey I updated the readme and I know about whois :D I just thought you did not looked it up because you mentioned me always as Mister_Q on the community team q & a :D
[13:33] <popey> haha, true
[13:34] <popey> I like reading out peoples irc nicknames :)
[13:35] <Mister_Q> makes sense
[13:53] <Colin__> um... Excuese me... magic-device-tool is a nice tool.. But I still can't flash recovery in fastboot. (I used to switch uTouch from rc to stable image in ubuntu-device-flash, I think  enviorment must be fine) So.. Meizu device 's recovery not support flash?? ( sry my poor English skill >.<).
[13:57] <Mister_Q> Colin__, what did you do exactly? the tool can flash the downloaded adb recovery and flash ubuntu. I just tried it on my mx4
[13:57] <dobey> Colin__: you must use the recovery image provided on the wiki page
[13:58] <dobey> if you want to use ubuntu-device-flash with one of the meizu ubuntu phones
[13:58] <Colin__> um... "rm -rf /".  But I can't flash recovery before do this.
[13:59] <Mister_Q> dobey, I'm using that in my tool.. https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool/blob/master/devices/mx4/ubuntu/stablewipe.sh
[14:00] <Colin__> I readed your script. And I tried dowload that recovery.img and "fastboot flash..." but still failed Q.Q
[14:01] <Mister_Q> what does 'fastboot devices' say?
[14:02] <Colin__> " partition 'recovery' not support flash" Q.Q
[14:03] <Mister_Q> did you bought the phone with flymeos?
[14:03] <Colin__> no...
[14:03] <Mister_Q> hmm
[14:05] <Mister_Q> did you follow the instructions to get into fastboot? I will try it again on my mx4 as soon as it finishes the current flash but I tested everything on my mx4 with the tool and it worked fine :(
[14:05] <dobey> well, to be fair you presumably also didn't rm -rf / first
[14:06] <Mister_Q> yeah
[14:06] <Mister_Q> in that case its possible that you also removed your imei partitions which would mean you have to send it back to meizu for an imei repair
[14:07] <Mister_Q> although rm -rf / should not affect fastboot
[14:08] <Colin__> Thank you so much XD.
[14:08] <Colin__> Does fastboot locked?
[14:08] <Mister_Q> oh except when its mounted in ubuntu
[14:09] <Colin__> "mounted in ubuntu?" O.O
[14:10] <Mister_Q> the fastboot files are stored somewhere in / its not mounted on most systems to avoid such things but it seems like it is in ubuntu
[14:10] <Mister_Q> Colin__, are you familiar with the sp flash tool?
[14:13] <Colin__> sp flash tool?  no  >.<
[14:15] <Mister_Q> Colin__, follow the instructions there http://forum.xda-developers.com/meizu-mx/general/meizu-mx4-how-to-flash-ubuntu-touch-t3210039 . and stick to the instructions. otherwise you will brick your phone.
[14:16] <Colin__> Thank you so much :D
[14:17] <Mister_Q> thats one of the reasons why I wrote that tool. to stop people from using dangerous oem tools.. kinda funny that I'm recommending it now but I also never rm -rf / on a phone :D
[14:18] <Mister_Q> Colin__, good luck. Ill be back in ~1h and will see what is left from your phone
[14:18] <Colin__> XD
[14:23] <dobey> not sure why one would do "rm -rf /" anywhere, unless the intent was to break things
[15:00] <mcphail> I'm not sure you can even run "rm -rf /" without extra flags anyway
[15:01] <k1l_> the kernel should block that
[15:02] <mcphail> they added the "--no-preserve-root" flag to rm
[15:02] <mcphail> keeping "--preserve-root" as default behaviour
[15:02] <k1l_> erm, yes. rm, not kernel
[15:09] <alex___> hi, how do i install ubuntu on a tablet with eufi and a detachable keyboard (64bit / intel atom processor)
[15:16] <alex___> hi
[15:26] <Mister_Q> Colin__, I'm back. How's your phone?
[15:27] <Colin__> still frozen O.O
[15:33] <dobey> alex___: if you mean standard ubuntu ISO install, that's a question for #ubuntu i guess
[15:36] <Colin__> I tried flash a system.img which from ~/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/xxxxxx.zip.  Failed to boot finally O.O Why?
[15:37] <Mister_Q> Colin__, seems like rm -rf / wasn't a great idea..
[15:38] <Colin__> I see Q.Q
[15:39] <Mister_Q> you should send it to meizu
[15:40] <Colin__> Okay XD
[15:41] <Mister_Q> sorry that I could not help you
[15:44] <Colin__> Um.. It's time to sleep. Bye~ :D
[16:16] <tsp__> sup
[16:32] <brunch875> hayu peeps, I did some clean-up in contacts.google.com
[16:32] <brunch875> How do I sync?
[16:44] <dobey> brunch875: i don't know if there is a way to force a sync
[16:44] <brunch875> well that's too bad :c
[16:45] <brunch875> I remember forcing contacts to sync before but I cannot seem to find that functionality anywhere anymore
[16:50] <davmor2> brunch875: in contacts on the phone you hit the sync button
[16:50] <brunch875> Where is that button?
[16:51] <davmor2> brunch875: top right next to the search button
[16:51] <brunch875> uh oh
[16:51] <brunch875> I only have the gear and the lens
[16:51] <brunch875> I'm on rc-proposed. Maybe it's temporarily gone? :P
[16:52] <davmor2> brunch875: ah can't help you then I'm on stable on this phone
[16:53] <brunch875> I should report this anyway, right?
[16:57] <brunch875> I have some extra issues too:
[16:57] <brunch875> →Libertine fails to create because dpkg returns 1 @ match
[16:57] <brunch875> →Videos scope  displays no online results
[16:57] <brunch875> →News aggregator only displays results from two sources
[16:57] <brunch875> →Vimeo "login" doesn't finish loading and can't cancel it so it locks up all scopes if trying to log in from a scope
[17:03] <sjm> Hello
[17:59] <yakaar> Hi I would like to know if it's possible to save my datas on a aquaris E4.5 where the system is not booting, the ubuntu screen is running infinitely ?
[18:02] <dobey> yakaar: what updates channel are you on for that device? rc-proposed?
[18:05] <yakaar> I don't know I didn't change from the factory state
[18:05] <yakaar> and I cannot verify
[18:07] <dobey> do you have developer mode enabled?
[18:07] <dobey> ie, you can connect to the device with adb?
[18:12] <yakaar> yes the developper mode is enabled, but I cannot connect with adb, it tell me device offline
[18:14] <dobey> ok. so technically should be possible to get the data off, but may be quite difficult. it sounds like unity8 keeps crashing for you. have you tried rebooting the phone at all?
[18:17] <yakaar> yes I tried many times, but unsuccessfully. And I tried to call BQ support without success...
[18:17] <yakaar> I tried to wipe cache partition
[18:18] <dobey> i don't think cache partition is the problem
[18:18] <dobey> can you reboot to bootloader or recovery ok?
[18:33] <yakaar> yes I can do it
[18:35] <yakaar> from bootloader can I connect it with adb
[18:35] <yakaar> ??
[18:35] <yakaar> I'm on recovery mode
[18:53] <Mister_Q> dobey yakaar sounds like your using the stock recovery which has no adb
[18:58] <yakaar> yes, how to recover datas so ??
[18:58] <yakaar> is it possible??
[19:00] <yakaar> or in fastboot Mister_Q do you know any solution??
[19:01] <Mister_Q> yakaar sure. flash the adb recovery and then install ubuntu on it again https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool
[19:04] <yakaar> But my datas will be deleted ??
[19:04] <Mister_Q> yakaar, not if you choose the option switch channel/reinstall in the tool
[19:05] <yakaar> ok, how can I flash the bootloader??
[19:06] <Mister_Q> thats also an option that offers the tool
[19:06] <Mister_Q> and it will tell you what you have to do
[19:06] <dobey> you don't want to flash the OS from the bootloader
[19:06] <dobey> doing so will destroy your data
[19:07] <Mister_Q> thats why he should flash the adb recovery first and then boot into it
[19:07] <dobey> you want to flash the adb-enabled recovery from bootloader, then in recovery you should be able to recover your data, or just re-flash from recovery without losing data
[19:08] <Mister_Q> thats the whole point of the tool. to tell the user what to do without having endless conversations on irc. but sure dobey can help you as well
[19:12] <yakaar> Mister_Q : I'm on your tool and I hav three option : [1] Install Ubuntu
[19:12] <yakaar> [2] Screencast
[19:12] <yakaar> [3] Back to menu
[19:12] <Mister_Q> install ubuntu
[19:13] <Mister_Q> then "[0] Flash ADB recovery (you need to do this first)"
[19:39] <yakaar> and now the screen is black
[19:40] <yakaar> and the mobile is hot
[20:08] <Mister_Q> yakaar now you can boot into recovery
[20:31] <yakaar> it stop at wait for device
[20:32] <yakaar> Mister_Q: I'm on fastboot and it doesn't work
[20:37] <Mister_Q> yakaar well I know for a fact that its working if you follow the instructions. I have to sleep now, will be around in ~8h again
[20:43] <yakaar> ok thanks a lot for your help, see you later, I will follow the instruction by myself. And I would ask you later if it doesn't work.
[20:44] <yakaar> it says Detecting device
[20:44] <yakaar> no permissions	fastboot
[20:44] <yakaar> Device detected !
[20:44] <yakaar> [3;J


[03:48] <darkxploit> hello guys i got ubuntu server 13.04 .. how do i upgrade to latest version?. because each time i made an upgrade it gives me error 404
[04:36] <chriys> hey guys I know this might not be the best channel to ask this question, but I hope some of you can give good hints. I want to setup a streaming solution to stream our live events. I tried Kaltura and Red5 and for some reason I never been able to make them work together. Do you have any suggestion for this sake?
[05:04] <ahmadgbg> Hi, is it possible to change an existing user's home dir to and existing dir?
[05:05] <andol> ahmadgbg: Yes, but you might need to set permissions, etc manually.
[05:05] <ahmadgbg> andol: ok how?
[05:06] <andol> ahmadgbg: usermod --home
[05:07] <ahmadgbg> andol, thanks
[05:08] <andol> ahmadgbg: There is also the --move-home option, but you might want to try that one out with a test account first.
[05:08] <andol> !ops
[05:08] <andol> ^^ The user nanaima appear to be spamming people.
[05:09] <andol> Ok, might not stricitly have been an emergency. Any good way to alerts ops in a less drastic way?
[05:20] <darkxploit> hello guys i got ubuntu server 13.04 .. how do i upgrade to latest version?. because each time i made an upgrade it gives me error 404
[05:28] <TJ-> darkxploit: 13.04 is EOL so its archives have been moved to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[05:30] <darkxploit> TJ-, dude any idea how to sort that then?
[05:31] <darkxploit> TJ-, should i modify the repository and launch an update. wont it crash the system if i do this ?
[05:32] <TJ-> Yes
[05:32] <TJ-> darkxploit: Edit apt's sources.list
[05:33] <darkxploit> which repo should i then insert to have the new ubuntu server
[05:33] <TJ-> darkxploit: I just told you ^^^^
[05:34] <darkxploit> u mean it would crash the system ?
[05:35] <TJ-> darkxploit: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[05:38] <darkxploit> TJ-, so according to the links that distro of mine has reached EOL. I can still upgrade to other version. right?
[05:44] <riz0n> Hello, I have an Ubuntu Server that I admin from the shell using SSH. I am new to writing shell scripts. I would like to write a "shortcut" script that, when I type lg from the shell, it would logout. can someone lead me in the right direction to setting this up?
[05:45] <riz0n> btw nanaima is spamming people in this channel.
[05:47] <sarnold> riz0n: alias lg=logout
[06:15] <riz0n> sarnold Thank you. :) Should I sudo it or just run as-is?
[06:15] <sarnold> riz0n: just run as-is
[06:16] <sarnold> riz0n: if you want it to stick around, you can add it to your ~/.bash_aliases file -- at least I think that is automatically loaded by ~/.bashrc if it exists
[06:19] <riz0n> Yeah I want it to always exist. When I get done with a ssh session I want to "lg" and get out
[06:19] <riz0n> but would like the shortcut to be systemw-de
[06:20] <sarnold> riz0n: I don't really want to take away some fun..
[06:20] <sarnold> riz0n: but have you seen that ^D will log you out?
[06:21] <sarnold> it's even easier than 'lg' since that requires hitting enter, too :)
[06:21] <sarnold> but just hitting ^D will kill your shell and log out
[06:24] <riz0n> I am also curious about one more thing. When I do a sudo adduser, I want to be able to have it automatically set the shell (/bin/false) and also want it to create some default IMAP folders. For example, Archive, Drafts, Junk, Notes, and Sent. In addition place a "Welcome" email in the inbox. I understand I can set the default shell through -s in adduser, so that part I'm not too worried
[06:24] <riz0n> about, but is there an easy way to have it intialize the data in the Maildir (Such as a default folder template that would get copied when a new user is created) ..... Also i want to ensure the integrity and security of my server is the strongest possible. The designated users that have /bin/false shells, I don't want being able to go any lower than their own home directory. Is there a
[06:24] <riz0n> way to change the root to be their home directory (chroot I guess?)
[06:24] <riz0n> And I will remember the ^D thanks for that ... the lg would be handy on my iPhone as I have an SSH terminal emulator installed as a jailbreak app and there's no ^D in there ;)
[06:25] <sarnold> riz0n: see the /usr/local/sbin/adduser.local program mentioned in the adduser(8) manpage -- you could definitely populate some mail folders using that script, but it'd be some work
[06:25] <sarnold> ahhhh
[06:26] <sarnold> riz0n: setting up chroot environments for users to use when they log in via sshd takes some work
[06:26] <sarnold> riz0n: it would be best to instead modify sshd_config to also forbid them from logging in and only allow sftp for example..
[06:27] <sarnold> sftp chroot is far easier to configure
[06:30] <riz0n> I tried to configure sftp and it just didn't like me. Plus I would like to entertain the thought of keeping everything on a secure level to prevent traffic snoopers across the path (trying to keep all plaintext password authentication methods unavailable if possible)
[06:31] <sarnold> good plan, keys-only is excellent
[06:31] <riz0n> I will check out the adduser.local though ... I don't mind the work as long as the end result is what I'm after. Eventually I'm going to bring on a couple of extra hands to assist in maintaing this server, so I would like for them to be able to create new accounts and those accoounts be pre-configured
[06:32] <sarnold> yeah you don't want to go crazy doing that by hand :)
[06:32] <riz0n> I would like to script the adduser process too, so that my other admins won't set initial passwords. I want a generic starter password (like Starter!123) that the end user can change themselves.
[06:34] <sarnold> riz0n: hrm, setting passwords, I don't see any administrative interface in adduser for that; useradd has a -p option, though, that might be a better place to start. you'll have to do more work with useradd, but if you're writing scripts already anyway
[06:34] <riz0n> I have set up HTTPS SSL, and moved my webmail to it, and ditched Squirrelmail for Roundcube, which I really like! And set up the password plugin so that end users can manage their own password. The good thing about Roundcube's password plugin is that you can force password complexity through the plugin without necessarily having it coded in Linux. So Roundcube ensures when a user changes
[06:34] <riz0n> their password, that it's 10 characters long, contains one upper letter, one lower letter, one number, and one special character. (no lame passwords like "test123" allowed on my system)
[06:35]  * sarnold tries 321tset
[06:36] <riz0n> right but what I'm thinking is a script that the admin runs, like "generate" for example, they could type "generate tom" and then it asks for Tom's name, then it would "adduser -s /bin/false %1 -p Welcome!123" then, maybe, cp /usr/var/template/* /home/%1"
[06:38] <riz0n> Now, I guess you can see that my ADHD is showing. I'm getting ready to build a new server and want to "migrate" the install I currently have from the server that's in use now to a VMware Virtual Machine running on a RAID5 host. Do you know if there is a way to generate a new virtual machine from hard disk for Ubuntu partitions?
[06:38] <sarnold> adduser would copy from /etc/skel/ for you -- useradd you might need to do some work yourself, hehe
[06:38] <riz0n> yeah I try to stay away from useradd altogether
[06:39] <riz0n> so what I could do, for my email for instance, is "adduser template" and then create the IMAP structure, drop the welcome message in the inbox, then cp /home/template/* to /etc/skel
[06:39] <sarnold> riz0n: qemu-img can probably convert from raw to vmware-sometihng
[06:43] <riz0n> Thanks for the info sarnold. At some point in time I noticed that VMWare had a create from hard disk option, but I didn't know if that was for Windows only hard disks, or if I could do that with an Ubuntu as well. To keep things simple, we will most likely use Windows Server 2008 as the host operating system on our hypervisor so that the disk maintenance of the RAID array won't be as
[06:43] <riz0n> bad, plus managing the virtual machine farm remotely won't be so bad either (Use remote desktop for that). Right now my Linux server is DANGEROUSLY running from one hard disk, and I want to migrate it to a more modern machine (been thinking about building a dual 12-core opteron system with 32-gigs ram, and 3x1TB Western Digital VelociRaptors)... the primary goal is to eliminate a domain
[06:43] <riz0n> controller, the linux server, as well as my "cloud computer" , and combine them into one system to save space in the server closet.
[06:48] <riz0n> The servers I have now are aging, they are 6 years old. I've replaced motherboards, cpu and ram in the Linux server but simply pulled the disk from old server machine to put in the new one. I've left the domain controller untouched, because I know that pulling the drive and putting it in a new machine won't be as simple. I am hoping the new server will lead us 10 years into the future.
[06:48] <riz0n> My main goal with virtualizing the whole gig is to accomplish two things. First, the ability to "port" the VM's to a backup machine in the event of machine failure while the machine is repaired, and to seamlessly migrate them to a whole new server in the future if we need more cores, RAM, more disk storage space in a new raid array, etc. for example.
[06:49] <sarnold> yeah I've never had good luck moving windows hard drives from computer to computer or even just changing the motherboard. unhappy thing.
[06:49] <riz0n> We have licenses for Windows Server 2008 and VMWare, so that's covered. We also recently obtained a Server 2012 license but holding off on setting that up until I have the new server built so that it can be 100% virtualized.
[06:51] <riz0n> Well you know M$... they don't make it simple. Now the good news is that they have made Windows 8/8.1 more portable so you can swap disks to a new machine. I haven't tested myself. I assume that since 2012 runs off the same Windows 8 kernel that it would be the same. But I do know from education and training that migrating/porting Windows VM's from one system to another is a breeze.
[06:52] <riz0n> And I really want to ride the Windows 2008 train til the end of the ride because I like how well it works. And to be totally honest I would ditch Windows 2008 altogether if I could replicate all the Active directory features in Linux.
[06:52] <sarnold> look into the new stuff in samba4
[06:52] <sarnold> I wouldn't jump into it without doing a fair pile of testing first
[06:53] <sarnold> but it sounds like they've got it pretty well nailed down now
[06:57] <riz0n> That's what we do is test stuff to see how it will work for our environment. We have a lab of "hand me down" equipment for that :) Another thing I failed to mention in my virtual machine farm, is the need to easily back up these servers. Right now I really have no way to back up the servers to an external disk. To back up my domain controller, I have a Windows 2008 server in a VM on my
[06:57] <riz0n> laptop that I have set up as a SDC that replicates when I boot it, and I try to do a backup once a week. Not what I really want to do. I would much rather, say on a weekly basis, power down the VM's and copy the contents to an external disk that can be stored off-site.
[07:01] <riz0n> The only true benefits we are getting out of Windows Server is each user gets their home directory, when it gets mapped in the login script, it gets mapped to the root of the drive letter (for example \\server\home\tom gets mapped straight to Z:\) but also each user's home space is NTFS-encrypted. We already have a second machine in place with 4x 2TB disks in a RAID5 that is used as the
[07:01] <riz0n> file server. \\Fileserver\Home\Tom or \\Fileserver\Media (We don't encrypt the media directory) but if our domain controller were to fail then trying to recover the encrypted homespace is going to be next to impossible if we don't have a good redundant SDC in place. We'd be F'd in the butt on that one.
[07:04] <riz0n> Our ISP is in the process of running fiber and we are hoping that by end year we will be on 100 megabit fiber. At this time we are looking to utilize a partnership we already have with a firm in Denver to have our SDC and a secondary Linux server hosted off their hypervisor (and we will do the same for them in return on our new hypervisor) and have a VPN tunnel established between the
[07:04] <riz0n> PDC and SDC for the purpose of replication.
[07:06] <riz0n> This is a lot of stuff that we have been wanting to do between our Denver site and our site here in Western NC, but our biggest barrier has been waiting for fiber optics to become a reality here. We've had several meetings, discussions, and planning to prepare us for this day.
[07:06] <sarnold> fun fun :)
[07:07] <riz0n> I know! I have also been looking at trying to do some kind of Open VPN solution through our DD-WRT routers to link our LAN's together to avoid having to use Windows VPN to build the bridge.
[07:09] <riz0n> right now as it stands, we have three locations that are linked together here in Western NC. We have tower space on a high ridge and have microwave backhauls linking the two satellite offices into the main LAN where the servers are housed.
[07:11] <riz0n> we have a building with offices next to the main office where our servers are at, and we have a higher speed backhaul from rooftop to rooftop using N-wireless so we are getting 100 megabit speed over that link now.
[07:13] <riz0n> so 4 locations total in WNC (3 of the locations are home offices more or less) and we route our IP phones and data traffic over the wireless backhauls. It works very well except our biggest problem right now is that the fastest speed our ISP can give us is 8 megs down, 1 meg up unless we choose to pay $thousands to get full duplex T1 lines.
[07:13] <sarnold> wow, and t1 looks so cute these days
[07:13] <riz0n> The 100 megabit business fiber will cost us the same as our 8x1 small business cable connection costs us now, so we are excited about them finishing that up.
[07:15] <riz0n> The last time I had 6 megs full duplex quoted it was going to cost us $3,000 a month. That's crack prices for Internet. The only reason we really need the Internet link is (well besides the obvious Internet connection) is to host our web pages, email, vpn, IP phone service, everything else we achieve on our own through the wireless links, and that costs us nothing a month to maintain.
[07:15] <sarnold> bed time, have fun riz0n :)
[07:17] <riz0n> Thanks so much for the chat sarnold. I know a lot of the stuff I've discussed is outside the scope of Ubuntu Server, and I apologize to the channel ops if I have upset them, but sometimes its really nice to ping ideas off others to see what others have done, their experience with that, and learn other methods of doing things :) There's not many people that have really got as in-depth
[07:17] <riz0n> into creating network systems like we have, at least not here in Western NC.
[07:19] <riz0n> I am going to play with the /etc/skel and see where that gets me. My next project is trying to set up FreeRadius and trying to integrate that into our DD-WRT access points so that we can assign individual users with their own credentials to get into the wireless network infrastructure, instead of having one shared WPA2 passphrase, and having to rekey all devices when an individual leaves
[07:19] <riz0n> the company.
[08:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:44] <_2_Lily97> Hi
[08:59] <Leegaert> Hi, since I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 my server keeps getting stuck on boot on a black screen with "Scanning for BTRFS filesystems". I have a BTRFS volume which is mounted through /etc/fstab. Most solutions I've read for this problem involve removing the btrfs-tools. Should I just wait for the scanning to end (been going on for more then 10 minu
[08:59] <Leegaert> tes now)?
[09:10] <streulma> can someone solve this? No module named linecache
[09:25] <ikonia> streulma: install the module ?
[10:14] <Leegaert> Apparantly I had to append device options in my fstab file...
[10:14] <Leegaert> Bit weird
[11:06] <Guest31251> how do i get i get date in filename in a bash-script ?
[11:14] <TJ-> Guest31251: "$(date +%Y-%m-%d)" or any other date format you require; see "man date"
[11:28] <Guest31251> i made a simple backup-script
[11:29] <Guest31251> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062094/
[11:29] <Guest31251> my first backup script
[11:29] <Guest31251> dont know if it works even
[11:29] <Guest31251> gonna try it now
[11:31] <Guest31251> hmm working good so far
[11:32] <Guest31251> doestn use absolute paths :P
[11:32] <_2_Lily97> Yes
[11:52] <Guest31251> backups take 917M
[11:52] <Guest31251> how large files can gmail take ?
[11:52] <Guest31251> my home is only 51M
[11:53] <Guest31251> i forgot my commercial vps :D
[11:53] <Guest31251> i can just scp them there if i remember my password
[11:53] <Guest31251> have to check also when the domain has to be renewed
[11:53] <Guest31251> my grandfathers book-store
[11:54] <Guest31251> 17.7.2015 no problem
[12:45] <rostam> HI I am using ubuntu 14.04.  accroding to dpkg --list | grep linux-image  I have two linux image installed on my system:  linux-image-3.13.0-24  and linux-image-3.13.0-32.  Currently my system has booted to later one, 3.13.0-32, How could I boot to older release, 3.13.0-24? thanks
[12:45] <cfhowlett_> rostam, reboot.   choose advanced options.  select ubuntu version (kernel)
[12:48] <rostam> cfhowlett_,  I have been struggling with this, could you please expand on advanced options, Is this a grub thing I believe? but not sure how to set it up... thanks for your help
[12:49] <cfhowlett_> rostam, yes, you can select which linux-header, i.e. kernel, from the grub menu on rebooting
[12:49] <cfhowlett_> rostam, nothing to set up.  you're old headers will appear automatically
[12:51] <rostam> cfhowlett_, thanks for your feedback. I tried to use GRUB_DEFAULT ,  or grub-set-default still coming up with newer version.
[12:52] <cfhowlett_> !grub2
[12:52] <cfhowlett_> rostam, by default, the newest kernel boots.
[12:55] <rostam> cfhowlett_, I understand but I can not reverse it back to older one ... Here is the grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062651/
[13:13] <TJ-> rostam: There may be a bug in the Trusty default setting; I've been investigating. However, when the system starts hold down the Shift key until the GRUB boot menu is displayed, then choose "Advanced Options" and then the alternative kernel you wish to use
[13:15] <rostam> TJ- I need to automate this in field so I need a script solution. How about removing the newer kernel would that break anything? thanks
[13:16] <rostam> or even is that possible?
[13:23] <TJ-> rostam: how are you using "grub-set-default" .. what command-line, exactly?
[13:28] <rostam> TJ-,  Based on instruction I got from this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275   I set the GRUB_DEFAULT=saved  then I call grub-set-default="Ubuntu, Linux 3.13.0-24-generic"
[13:31] <TJ-> rostam: Instead of the menu title, use it's --id
[13:33] <TJ-> rostam: If you look in "/boot/grub.cfg" you'll see the id's of each entry at the end of the menuentry line. They look like "gnulinux-3.13.0-32-generic-advanced-55b34add-90c2-4bd9-b2d3-ea7b4cf5efc8" ... so you should try "grub-set-default gnulinux-3.13.0-32-generic-advanced-55b34add-90c2-4bd9-b2d3-ea7b4cf5efc8"
[13:35] <rostam> TJ-,  ok, so the syntax would be grub-set-default=gnulinux-.....             ?
[13:35] <rostam> TJ-,  do I still need to call update-grub ?
[13:36] <TJ-> rostam: there is no "=" sign to the command.... or are you doing it some other way?
[13:37] <TJ-> rostam: "update-grub" is only required if changes to the config via "/etc/default/grub" or the scripts in "/etc/grub.d/" are made
[13:38] <rostam> TJ-  THanks I do not use "=" that was elapsed on my side.. thanks
[15:03] <darkxploit> hello.. i have wrongly  uninstall apache and deleted /etc/apache2 [debian] but the service is still on. ANy idea how to stop it        tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN      12709/apache2                        service apache2 stop dont work usr/sbin/apache2 dont exist, kill -9 on the pid keeps on changing
[15:20] <samba35> i am running two guest on 14.04.1 with kvm but host/guest use swap memory upto 800 mb and keeping phyiscal memory un-use ,is there any way force touse physical memory or disable swap is good option ?
[22:20] <rostam> TJ- The default setting for grub does not work for me. I wonder if this is ubuntu bug or something on my side ....
[22:21] <TJ-> rostam: I believe it to be a bug - I had a similar issue last week but not had time to fully debug it yet
[23:08] <rostam> TJ-, is there a bug ID associate it with it do you have a work around I can use? thanks
[23:09] <TJ-> rostam: Nothing so far, I have it on a long ToDo list :)
[23:18] <rostam> TJ-,  the only thing I think I should do is to pin not to update the newer kernel do you see any issue on that please? thanks