[00:02] <duoi> hey
[00:02] <duoi> can anyone suggest noninteractive MTUs?
[00:03] <SlidingHorn> duoi: This isn't really the place for software suggestions.  Maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:03] <duoi> SlidingHorn okay
[00:04] <ryuo> maetthew: generally, no. i've only seen KDE do anything like that for nearly the whole session
[00:10] <pi0> need help setting up wifi ap on my ubuntu laptop to share internet
[00:11] <Bashing-om> deadrom: Nvidia recommends the 490 version driver: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/137276/en-us . what shows ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[00:11] <maetthew> ryuo: ok
[00:12] <deadrom> Bashing-om: nvidia-340 / nvidia-driver-390
[00:13] <Bashing-om> deadrom: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' should install the 390 driver :)
[00:22] <Phischi> hello, just wondering.... would it be bad for a firmwareupdate to have a passwd file with this line?: root:ToCOv8qxP13qs:0:0:root:/root/:/bin/psh
[00:23] <Phischi> please tell me that this isn't a password-hash....
[00:34] <deadrom> Phischi: that looks like.. plaintext, if you ask me
[00:34] <Phischi> hashid says DES
[00:34] <Phischi> just probing IPcamfirmware
[00:34] <deadrom> well, see if that gives you root
[00:35] <Phischi> so, can't check if it works
[00:35] <deadrom> shenzen toy?
[00:35] <ntd> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18711970
[00:35] <Phischi> not directly... major brand.... looks like a 0-day :p
[00:35] <Phischi> though I bet they just got the parts somewhere in Shenzen
[00:36] <Phischi> I was just bored and checked the next gen of a camera I once used and found a root-password in the firmware... so....
[00:36] <Phischi> I think this will get a CVE entry soon
[00:37]  * deadrom dips white hat ;)
[00:37] <EriC^^> maybe it's the default password..
[00:38] <Phischi> EriC^^:  haven't checked Shodan yet. The camera webinterface doesn't deliver anything specific to search for. But I'm not that deep into the pentest-thing yet, too
[00:38] <ducasse> Phischi: is this an ubuntu install?
[00:39] <Phischi> ducasse: my VM uses Ubuntu to dissect the firmware :)
[00:41] <Galactor> Morning all! I was wondering, How do I move files from one machine to another via ssh? I got myself a pi-zero and want to use it as my always-on irssi client... however all my scripts/log-in info, etc. is on this machine
[00:41] <subcool> Odd but easy one. I have to install nvidea drivers, and i have to install displaylink driver. I installed the displaylink drivers, and tried to setup my second monitor, "Displays and Monitor" see the second monitor, but i cant pitch anything to it. The computer also appears to allow the actions for a second screen, but- nothing is presented on the screen.
[00:41] <EriC^^> Phischi: https://blog.donbowman.ca/2018/01/18/hacking-the-hikvision-part-1/
[00:42] <subcool> Two- while doing this, i tried to disable the second screen. it disabled the main screen. I uninstalled, and reinstalled it. When i resintall, the main display goes blank.
[00:43] <ducasse> Galactor: 'man scp'
[00:43] <Phischi> EriC^^: lol, nice find
[00:43] <Phischi> same pass
[00:44] <Phischi> hiklinux :)
[00:44] <EriC^^> :D
[00:44] <Phischi> but just for the learning, I need to get a hang on how hashcat works with mask-attacks (better bruteforce)
[00:45] <Galactor> ducasse: ah thats the command! thank you!
[00:46] <EriC^^> Galactor: i'd make sure it's the same version irssi on both machines before copying user config files over across installs
[00:48] <Galactor> EriC^^: Good advice! thanks for saving me the headache. I've only dedicated myself to linux (made that windows uninstall) recently so I still got a lot to learn
[00:51] <Phischi> duh
[00:51] <Phischi> hashcat can't find a Cuda-device in the VM.... laaaaaaame
[00:58] <Phischi> EriC^^: whoa, under 30mins on just 1 i5 core in the VM...
[01:10] <subcool> https://pastebin.com/DMdbAwWU
[01:11] <subcool> whichi file do i remove to prevent previous installations to mess with my re-installation
[01:13] <SlidingHorn> subcool: I'm not understanding what your issue is.  If you reinstall, it will overwrite everything.
[01:33] <subcool> SlidingHorn, i had the issue, lost my screen, went to another login (ctrl+alt), uninstalled it, rebooted, reinstalled - lost my screen immediately. swtich to another login again, uninstalled it. reboot. everyting worked again.
[01:39] <Sven_vB> can anyone help me debug mDNS in bionic? works in the live session but not in the installed system. https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6c45e527/
[01:42] <SlidingHorn> subcool: I'm sorry, but what you're saying doesn't make any sense without a little context
[02:11] <subcool> SlidingHorn, Sorry. THe pastebin you see is after displaylink has be removed. Techinally i believe there is only 3 files of question that might of concern from the pastbin.
[02:12] <subcool> SlidingHorn, when i install the displaylink, it appears to refer to previous installations, because after i messed it up the first time. No matter how many times i uninstall and reinstall it. After its installed, my main screen goes black.
[02:14] <rfm> Sven_vB, what does "getent hosts xxx.local" say?  That calls gethostbyname through the NSS.  (BTW, no point in "sanitizing" names in .local or addresses in 192.168.x.x, nobody outside your net can get to them anyway.)
[02:20] <Sven_vB> rfm, on live, getent hosts says the same as avahi-resolve-host-name. on installed, its output is empty.
[02:24] <rfm> Sven_vB, ok good that means the failure's in the gethostbyname call.  We should look at the output of "strace getent xxxx.local" (on the installed/failing system.)   You could pastebinit, or if you think it needs to be sanitized, I could pastebin my working one and you could eyeball compare it...
[02:24] <Sven_vB> flags -fyxo?
[02:26] <Sven_vB> I'll try with fyxo and maybe it shows enough
[02:26] <rfm> Sven_vB,  don't need any flags its only gonna be 185 lines or so
[02:28] <rfm> Sven_vB, unless you have a huge /etc/hosts file...
[02:28] <WM_> Is there a way to speed up Visual Studio Code snap startup time? It's super slow compared to VSC on Windows on the same hardware
[02:29] <WM_> (which was already super slow compared to Sublime Text)
[02:29] <SlidingHorn> WM_: I would imagine that'd probably be a better question to point to the snap maintainer(s)
[02:29] <WM_> SlidingHorn: even though I got it through "Software"?
[02:30] <rfm>  WM_ did you try twice?  There's a problem in some versions of snapd where the first startup after install is slow.
[02:30] <WM_> rfm: I think it was still slow, I'm dual booted to Windows right now
[02:31] <SlidingHorn> WM_:  I'd say so, as it's not directly an Ubuntu issue.  while snaps are available through the "Software" store, they're not maintained or officially supported (as anyone can make/maintain a snap)
[02:31] <WM_> Fair enough, I just thought since I didn't modify my sources that it'd be supported
[02:32] <WM_> Also, how do I save my modifications to /sys/devices to persist across boots
[02:32] <SlidingHorn> WM_: it's a weird scenario, and that's a perfectly logical assumption
[02:32] <WM_> I figure I can create a custom systemd unit but maybe there's an official method
[02:32] <Sven_vB> rfm, can I just redact the hex blobs from socket read/writes or do you need them?
[02:33] <WM_> Basically my trackpoint needs tweaking in /sys/devices/platform to work properly
[02:34] <rfm> Sven_vB, sure, if you must
[02:35] <SlidingHorn> WM_: what exactly is the change you have to perform?
[02:36] <WM_> SlidingHorn: speed and sensitivity. Gnome just gives me "Mouse Speed"
[02:36] <SlidingHorn> WM_: do you just run a command or script to do it?
[02:36] <WM_> SlidingHorn: yeah something like "echo 2 > /sys/foo"
[02:36] <WM_> For a few settings
[02:37] <WM_> But I thought there might be a "proper" way instead of my own hacky concoction
[02:39] <Sven_vB> rfm, https://paste.debian.net/plainh/9cb7613a/
[02:40] <SlidingHorn> WM_: you could create a .service file in /etc/systemd/system/   and run    sudo systemctl enable --now myservice.service  (that would start the service and tell it to run on boot in the future)
[02:40] <WM_> ok, manual hacks it is!
[02:40] <WM_> i should just always opt for hacks
[02:40] <SlidingHorn> WM_: A couple helpful (but lengthy) reads if you need them: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/understanding-systemd-units-and-unit-files
[02:41] <SlidingHorn> WM_: There may be another less-hacky way to do it, but I'm not aware of it :/
[02:42] <WM_> all good thanks SlidingHorn
[02:44] <Sven_vB> WM_, you could also install it regular instead of as a snap.
[02:45] <WM_> Sven_vB: that might be a good idea, avoid this snap business entirely
[02:45] <WM_> Sven_vB: thought i'd stop being an old grumpy *** and try it
[02:45] <Sven_vB> WM_, as for /sys mods, you could just hook a shell script into cron with "date/time" "@reboot"
[02:47] <Sven_vB> WM_, to make it pluggable, give it its own file in /etc/cron.d
[02:48] <WM_> pluggable?
[02:48] <Sven_vB> "just add/remove a file"
[02:48] <WM_> ah
[02:49] <Sven_vB> you could even put a weirdly encoded archive in a line comment inside the same cron file and then have the cron command unpack that. :D
[02:49]  * WM_ stares at Sven_vB
[02:49] <Sven_vB> or store it in an env var
[02:49] <WM_> don't make me come over there
[02:50] <rfm> Sven_vB, where it seems to go off the rails is after it reads nsswitch.conf and is trying to read the libnss libraries.... it can't even find libnss_mdns4_minimal.so.2
[02:51] <Sven_vB> rfm, then I'll go check why one bionic does have it and the other don't.
[02:51] <rfm> Sven_vB, and I don't know why it's looking in so many more places than my system does....
[02:51] <rfm> Sven_vB, gotta go sorry
[02:52] <Sven_vB> rfm, thanks a lot!
[02:55] <Sven_vB> gotta install libnss-mdns it seems
[02:56] <Sven_vB> and libnss-myhostname while I'm at it
[02:59] <Sven_vB> works. problem solved. thanks again, rfm!
[03:18] <nshire> does ubuntu still overwrite the windows boot manager with GRUB on uefi systems?
[03:18] <me1t> yes
[03:19] <nshire> in my bios, I was able to select just the windows boot manager and it worked, not sure how
[03:20] <nshire> as far as I can tell grub never ran on that last boot
[03:25] <Sven_vB> nshire, are you looking for http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php ?
[03:26] <Sven_vB> maybe it's still compatible with modern windows
[03:26] <nshire> no, I'm mostly confused as to how I was able to successfully boot win10 while skipping grub
[03:26] <nshire> I think there is some old documentation on the ubuntu site
[03:26] <me1t> i always used grub to chainload
[03:29] <nshire> https://i.imgur.com/p2o4LhM.jpg
[03:31] <nshire> not sure what's going on here
[03:42] <subcool> Ok.. better question.
[03:42] <subcool> If i needed to modify screen resolution, and displays, and which monitor is which... what file would i edit in CLI
[03:43] <me1t> xorg.conf
[03:43] <subcool> same for KDE?
[03:44] <me1t> i thought it was for all
[03:44] <subcool> idk, when i tried getting into all this in the beggin... it was something else.
[03:45] <subcool> once u said it - i was Oh yea.
[03:45] <subcool> ok... time ti figure this out-- thanks a lot man.
[03:45] <subcool> lata guys
[03:51] <ntd> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18711970
[04:06] <ntd> Article is about the sad state of using linux on touchscreen devices. turns out you can't if you're using ubuntu bionic (released in april). Their kernel just doesn't support a whole device class (iio) and seemingly they can't be bothered fixing this...
[04:07] <SlidingHorn> ntd: more of a #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss topic
[04:08] <ntd> or about the ubuntu kernel 4.15 be faulty?
[04:08] <ntd> nacc confirmed this, read the article
[04:08] <myself> Heh. As the owner of a whole pile of touchscreen laptops on the other end of the age scale, where someone wrote a driver that works in kernel 2.2 and nothing since :P
[04:10] <SlidingHorn> ntd: I'm not saying it's not confirmed or anything else for that matter.  I'm saying it's not a support request, and therefore is off topic here.
[05:24] <septemhill> help
[05:25] <Vysty> I have a monitor that suddenly appears to be aliasing (I think?). Can someone help me troubleshoot this problem? Running Ubuntu 16.04.
[05:27] <IcemanV9> septemhill: you need to expand on "help" question. it's too vague for any of us to help ya
[05:31] <SlidingHorn> Vysty: more details would probably make it easier for folks :)
[05:31] <Vysty> SlidingHorn: Damn thing just fixed itself. I walked out the room and walked back in and it's back to normal.
[05:31] <Vysty> Problem was I had no idea how to describe the problem. :/
[05:42] <Intelo> How can I test/configure my new mic sound. The os is not getting it
[05:42] <Intelo> !sound
[05:43] <Intelo> is there a more featurefull app>?
[05:46] <epicmetal> howcome i cant see visual studio code in the "installed" tab in software?
[05:47] <epicmetal> the snap is on my system, installed via software yesterday
[05:48] <SlidingHorn> epicmetal: I'm not sure if it accounts for snaps...I could be wrong. Let me see something...
[05:51] <SlidingHorn> epicmetal: I'm incorrect - All the snaps I've installed are accounted for.  Not sure what to make of the VS Code situation
[05:51] <SlidingHorn> epicmetal: sounds like you're having a load of fun with that program so far xD
[06:06] <Intelo> how to check audio
[06:07] <SlidingHorn> !details | Intelo
[06:08] <Intelo> SlidingHorn,  My m6700 jus does not records sound when external mic is plugged in. What could be wronge here? I used an external sound card too (usb based
[06:09] <Intelo> i will b back
[06:21] <epicmetal> SlidingHorn: yeah it's a ton of fun
[06:21] <epicmetal> SlidingHorn: i use it on windows so i thought i'd try it on ubuntu
[06:23] <epicmetal> SlidingHorn: snap remove vscode did the trick
[06:26] <SlidingHorn> epicmetal: oh, I didn't know you were looking to remove it.  *That* I could have helped with
[06:26] <epicmetal> SlidingHorn: still weird that it was missing from Software though
[06:27] <epicmetal> 18.10
[06:30] <SlidingHorn> epicmetal: It *might* be worth filing a bug report to the gnome-software package to see if it's something they could recreate - Was that the only snap you had installed?
[06:31] <SlidingHorn> epicmetal: (you can do   snap list   to see if there are others)
[06:36] <epicmetal> SlidingHorn: yeah just vscode
[06:37] <Intelo> SlidingHorn, back
[06:38] <SlidingHorn> Intelo: tell us more about your issue...what mic is it (make/model)?  How are you connecting it?  What version and flavor of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:38] <Intelo> SlidingHorn, On my m6700 I hear no sound while I record /input via external mic. I plugged in the input jack and also used external usb sound card. Tried kubuntu 18 and windows 10. The boya m1 mic works on another laptop I have.
[06:39] <Intelo> I tried skype, obs studio for testing audio
[06:39] <SlidingHorn> Did it work in Windows on this same machine?
[06:40] <Intelo> SlidingHorn, no
[06:40] <SlidingHorn> Intelo: well that kinda nails it down to a hardware issue on the machine itself, I'd think
[06:42] <Intelo> SlidingHorn,  I have a dell lattitude e5430, it has only one jack for mic/headphone. When I plug the mic there, it works but when I use the external soundcard in that laptop also, it does not works.
[06:42] <Intelo> SlidingHorn,  if it was hardware issue, the external sound card would have worked on m6700 but it seems the internal mic jack and external usb card, both dont work
[06:44] <Phischi> Hm, what does a root:: in the /etc/shadow mean? No root-password? Especially if the /etc/passwd shows root:x: ?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> !root | Phischi
[06:47] <Phischi> no, in general :)
[06:47] <Phischi> dissecting a IoT firmware
[06:47] <geirha> empty field does mean empty password, yes. So you can log in as root without a password
[06:48] <geirha> obviously, not recommended
[06:58] <Phischi> geirha: so root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/sh
[06:58] <Phischi>  means shellaccess (if SSHd/Telnetd runs) even remotely? Would this count as a 0-day?
[06:58] <Phischi> yay, this is hardware that was updated 10months ago the last time :)
[07:07] <irwiss> sshd that's not a few years old should generally block password login into root, but in IoT security is more of a meme than a real concern
[07:13] <Teachmehow> Hello. I changed my Home directory permission to 'dwrxwrxw-x' and now I cannot ssh into my ubuntu instance. it's in aws. Is there any way I can log in to change the permission? Thanks
[07:14] <Teachmehow> sorry its 'drwxrwxw-x'
[07:14] <Teachmehow> sorry its 'drwxrwxr-x'*
[07:14] <Teachmehow> this is the final version
[07:18] <energizer> i normally do these setups with a usb boot drive. i happen to have a usb-sata cable around today.  can i make use of that to install onto the os drive without leaving my main computer?
[07:31] <Goop> I've been looking for some good whiteboard software for Ubuntu, since I got a drawing tablet, but everything is either online, very shitty, or doesn't work.
[07:33] <Goop> OpenBoard doesn't work with Ubuntu 18.04
[07:49] <SlidingHorn> Goop: There's an OpenBoard snap and a flatpak - Have you tried those?   (for the snap:   sudo snap install openboard )  just note that snaps aren't maintained by Ubuntu, so they're not technically supported on an individual level
[07:53] <Goop> SlidingHorn, Openboard does not work.
[07:53] <Goop> SlidingHorn, I installed it, and it doesn't exist anywhere on my system. No "openboard" command nor entry shows on the Dashboard.
[07:56] <SlidingHorn> Goop: I've seen folks say they need to use "OpenBoard" rather than openboard for the command?
[08:59] <steven> morning, havnig this problem that apt update failes (can't resolve the name) but ping $domain works just fine.. I did add a nameserver manually to /etc/resolv.conf .. pinging $domain before that didn't work either (something wrong with dns) so could it be that apt does not use resolv.conf to resolve the repos
[08:59] <steven> and if thats the case, what does it use?
[09:03] <gigirock> steven, try to change repos
[09:04] <steven> gigirock: I am not physically on the machine :D its my co-workers machine (whom works in a different city) who needs to install something from CLI .. he sends me photos
[09:04] <steven> so is there a fancy one liner to change those?
[09:04] <steven> cos I am not aware of one
[09:05] <steven> all I can see is ping is working, dig is working, but apt says it failes to resolve it
[09:24] <steven> I am quite sure it does not use /etc/resolv.conf tho.. I just don't remember what it used instead
[09:37] <steven> ah cool, its netplan now.. I knew there was something changed in ubuntu18.. ok next questioin, can I set a custom dns when using networkmanager as a renderer?
[09:45] <epicmetal> how do i make the taskbar thingy like gnome in 18.10?
[09:45] <epicmetal> it's eating screen real estate and the autohide is weird
[09:45] <epicmetal> so i just want gnome's back
[09:47] <epicmetal> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030138/how-can-i-get-rid-of-the-dock-in-ubuntu-18
[09:47] <epicmetal> apparently i have to go back to vanilla gnome :(
[09:48] <steven> at least you have a desktop lol
[09:49] <epicmetal> i like ubuntu's gnome except for this
[09:49] <epicmetal> it's pretty
[09:49] <epicmetal> does vanilla-gnome stay themed like ubuntu gnome?
[09:49] <epicmetal> i'm guessing no since it wants to install adwaita
[09:49] <steven> I wouldn;t know, I normally don't use ubuntu.
[09:50] <epicmetal> and...transmission
[09:50] <epicmetal> :\
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> energizer: what are you trying to do exactly, install ubuntu without usb stick?
[09:55] <energizer> lotuspsychje: i went ahead and did it with a usb stick, but yeah that's what i was asking
[09:57] <energizer> is there a way to do that?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> energizer: there are several install methods you can do, depends what you really want?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> energizer: like install iso from grub, or cd/dvd
[10:00] <steven> ok problem solved, told the coworker to remove ubuntu :D
[10:00] <energizer> lotuspsychje: i was interested in installing the os onto the drive without plugging it in to its own mobo
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> energizer: whatever connected to your computer, setup 'could' see the install media in the partitioning screen
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> energizer: did you see your device there?
[10:02] <energizer> lotuspsychje: yes i saw it the same way i'd see an external usb hdd
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> energizer: then you can install ubuntu on it, if you select that hd
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | energizer see also
[10:04] <energizer> lotuspsychje: how would i go through the prompts of the installer?
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> energizer: what do you mean?
[10:07] <energizer> lotuspsychje: given an iso, a sata drive, and a usb-sata cable, can i install and configure ubuntu on the drive from my other computer, so that then i can just go insert it into the new box and turn it on and it'll work? new box has no display or keyboard
[10:08] <epicmetal> I just did an apt install of something and apt notified me of upgradeable packages. Shouldn't something in the GUI be blinking at me about these? They seem to be security builds.
[10:08] <energizer> s/other computer/main computer/
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> energizer: you have an usb install media with ubuntu seperate too?
[10:09] <energizer> lotuspsychje: to be clear, i already did the job using a usb installer. now i'm just curious
[10:10] <energizer> if i could do it without usb install media
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> energizer: the problem would be, if you make the setup iso on the sata drive, you cant install on the install media
[10:11] <energizer> lotuspsychje: yeah that's what i suspected
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> energizer: what you 'could' do, is the iso to grub method from your ubuntu pc, and then install on the sata hd
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> energizer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[10:14] <Boyette> does anyone know the channel for thunderbird?
[10:15] <energizer> Boyette: i dont but might try moznet instead
[10:16] <epicmetal> SlidingHorn: vscode runs at normal speed when installed from Microsoft's .deb, so that's good news
[10:16] <epicmetal> SlidingHorn: it's just the snap that's cactus
[10:16] <Boyette> moznet
[10:16] <Boyette> ok will try
[10:16] <energizer> lotuspsychje: ok then i'd run it in vbox or something, configure network & ssh, and then move it into the real computer?
[10:16] <Boyette> because i have a strange issue which is related to thunderbird or ubuntu
[10:16] <Boyette> but i dont know
[10:17] <Boyette> moznet its just me there :P
[10:17] <energizer> Boyette: you know what i mean moznet is another irc network, not freenode
[10:17] <energizer> Boyette: irc.mozilla.org
[10:18] <energizer> Boyette: because thunderbird is made by mozilal
[10:18] <Disconsented> not anymore
[10:19] <Boyette> ooh
[10:19] <Boyette> i thought u mean the channel moznet
[10:19] <energizer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird
[10:20] <Boyette> which channel on moznet network then?
[10:20] <energizer> Boyette: #thunderbird /topic says " *VISIT SUPPORT* https://mzl.la/2hEY7ef if no answer in this *SLOW CHANNEL* ——get info/make suggestion http://mzl.la/qdZ8y5 — Add functions http://bit.ly/tbamo — #calendar Lightning — #maildev code,addon,dev — test the BETA http://bit.ly/tbchan"
[10:21] <Disconsented> https://imgur.com/a/vX6hfON
[10:21] <Boyette> thx
[10:26] <steven> is netplan just a thing that converts the yaml into .. systemd-networkd configs?
[10:59] <DemomanCA> Hi all, is this the place to ask about an issue I'm having with networking in Server 18.04?
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> DemomanCA: come join in #ubuntu-server please
[11:33] <sudorutsupermod> hi, i changed my system time setting and i want to "restore" it. is it possible?
[11:33] <sudorutsupermod> i changed it a few min ago
[11:36] <EriC^^> change it again
[11:36] <EriC^^> you mean you dont know what it was set to?
[11:47] <sauna> Hi, my workstation is in emergency mode. Problem is mdadm somehow ... mdadm error opening /dev/md * and the cat /proc/mdstat shows what seem to be default lines ... not that I have md0 there. I have raid1 setup
[11:48] <sauna> Maybe I have forgot to add that sda and sdb are belonging to md0 somehow, but this is 2 weeks later, I think I did some reboots 2 weeks ago and it worked... any help ?
[11:50] <sudorutsupermod> EriC^^: yes, i donot know :(
[11:51] <sauna> The way I created is mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda /dev/sdb . Then I put XFS filesystem on md0, sda and sdb only have gpt partitions on them
[11:52] <sudorutsupermod> its nothing major, but changed i timezones and wanted new time.
[11:54] <sauna> in boot log, there is Timed out waiting for device dev-md0.device.
[11:54] <sauna> I am totally lost with these errors
[11:54] <CoJaBo> shouldn't it be sda1/sdb1 or something
[12:12] <Xatenev> hello
[12:12] <Xatenev> im looking for a way to quickly record a gif and upload it to some service
[12:12] <Xatenev> anybody know someting?
[12:12] <Xatenev> like gyazo-gif but for ubuntu :)
[12:17] <NerdTheThird> have you tried google?
[12:19] <Xatenev> NerdTheThird, Yes
[12:19] <Xatenev> NerdTheThird, I haven't found a single result
[12:20] <Xatenev> that would match my requirement
[12:20] <paradigm> Hi!  If vt.handoff is set in GRUB - Ubuntu's default - the display retains GRUB's background until something happens.  How would I figure out what the trigger is that disables vt.handoff?  I've experimented with throwing various ioctls like KDSETMODE/KD_TEXT and ctrl-alt-F#s without success.
[12:20] <NerdTheThird> lies
[12:20] <NerdTheThird> https://github.com/gyazo/Gyazo-for-Linux
[12:22] <NerdTheThird> https://github.com/phw/peek
[12:25] <Xatenev> NerdTheThird, did you read the links you just posted?
[12:26] <Xatenev> peek might be worth a shot, it doesn't allow me to upload the gif to some service fast but it can atleast record a gif I guess
[12:26] <Xatenev> gyazo-for-linux does not support gif recording.
[12:29] <Intelo>  On my m6700 I hear no sound while I record /input via external mic. I plugged in the input jack and also used external usb sound card. Tried kubuntu 18 and windows 10. The boya m1 mic works on another laptop I have.  I have a dell lattitude e5430, it has only one jack for mic/headphone. When I plug the mic there, it works but when I use the external soundcard in that laptop also, it does not works.  if it was hardware issue, the external sound
[12:29] <Intelo> card would have worked on m6700 but it seems the internal mic jack and external usb card, both dont work
[12:34] <nkoren> Hey all! New to Ubuntu here, and Linux in general. I've got a problem: when using Chromium (or Chrome), all keyboard shortcuts are disabled when any input element has focus. Drives me crazy. Any way to fix this?
[12:44] <joop_> nkoren: I've had similar issues when using Wayland. What DE are you running?
[12:47] <nkoren> joop_: I'm on Unity.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:51] <diverdude> hi, i have ubuntu desktop 18.04 installed. Will it mess up anything if it run: sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies ?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> diverdude: you can safely test out other flavors on your current ubuntu, but its reccomended if you like one, to install it clean
[12:52] <diverdude> lotuspsychje: its mostly because i am following a guide to install VNC and they tell me to install those xfce packages first
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> diverdude: maybe share your endgoal first? be carefull with vnc for security reasons
[12:53] <diverdude> lotuspsychje: my endgoal is to get VNC up and running (i am connected over VPN)
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | diverdude
[12:54] <diverdude> lotuspsychje: ah ok...im over rather slow connection. I should maybe use FreeNX then?
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> diverdude: if vnc port is connected to the internet, it will get hammered 24/7 id reccomend safer protocols
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> diverdude: do you need one time remote control, or always remote access?
[12:55] <diverdude> lotuspsychje: always remote access would be neat
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> diverdude: i would be carefull with that, perhaps consider ssh to do your remote work? and secure it with alternate port and fail2ban
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> diverdude: the #openssh channel can surely help you with ssh X for a GUI
[12:57] <diverdude> lotuspsychje: but nothing is exposed to the internet. its running behind a firewall and accessible only via vpn
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> diverdude: whatever you choose, check your logs and see if your vnc port gets scanned or not ok
[13:09] <Intelo>  On my m6700 I hear no sound while I record /input via external mic. I plugged in the input jack and also used external usb sound card. Tried kubuntu 18 and windows 10. The boya m1 mic works on another laptop I have.  I have a dell lattitude e5430, it has only one jack for mic/headphone. When I plug the mic there, it works but when I use the external soundcard in that laptop also, it does not works.  if it was hardware issue, the external sound
[13:09] <Intelo> card would have worked on m6700 but it seems the internal mic jack and external usb card, both dont work
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: did you try with pavucontrol?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Intelo, does lsusb show the external card?
[13:13] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, its an app?
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> !info pavucontrol | Intelo
[13:15] <Intelo> BluesKaj, Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
[13:19] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  I see the mic there but the audio is not being recorded/seen in audio bar when I pank the mic
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: sudo lshw -C sound , is the driver= loaded at bottom?
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Intelo, sudo modprobe snd_usb_audio if the driver isn't loaded
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Intelo, also that sound card probly doesn'r capture sound from external sources like a mic
[13:23] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, BluesKaj https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6n6hGw8jrD/
[13:23] <Intelo> BluesKaj,  no results for sudo modprobe snd_usb_audio
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: driver looks loaded correctly
[13:26] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  why would it show the mic and not record sound?
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> see what BluesKaj suggested
 Intelo, also that sound card probly doesn'r capture sound from external sources like a mic ?
[13:27] <Intelo> why?
[13:28] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  I didn't got what it means
[13:28] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  that sound card has a mic jack. Thats the function of it
[13:28] <Intelo> as being a 'sound card
[13:29] <BluesKaj> so it's a capture card, the as lotuspsychje mentioned  pavucontrol  will have a setting for audio input/mic
[13:29] <BluesKaj> then
[13:30] <Intelo> BluesKaj,  it has settings, it shows it, it just dont show the sound bar changing when I tap the mic head. ie no sound recording/
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: try the gnome sound recorder package, and plug your mic in both headphone & mic jack to test your recording as a test
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Intelo, install gnome-sound-recorder
[13:34] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, :-)
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:34] <Intelo> k
[13:34] <Intelo> iam on kubuntu
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> one for you BluesKaj :p
[13:35] <SlidingHorn> Intelo: didn't you say last night that it didn't work on Windows either?
[13:35] <Intelo> SlidingHorn,  correct
[13:35] <Intelo> SlidingHorn,  I said that few minutes ago too
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Intelo, try Ecasound on Kubuntu
[13:40] <bipul> How would i check, tuntap is enabled in my Ubuntu?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Intelo, another option is audacity, I should have mentioned that app first
[13:47] <BluesKaj> bipul, use with netstat, example netstat -tuntap in the console
[13:55] <bipul> BluesKaj, Netstat to find out the TUN/TAP is enabled or not?
[13:57] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  SlidingHorn  BluesKaj  not recording sound by mic. Only thing working is with the same mic and dell lattitude e5430, it has only one jack for mic/headphone. When I plug the mic there, it works but when I use the external soundcard in that laptop also, it does not works.
[14:01] <BluesKaj> bipul, well for internet traffic, otherwise I wasn't sure what you meant
[14:02] <bipul> BluesKaj,  I would like to see inside the default kernel configuration. Where is TUN/TAP is enabled.
[14:05] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  SlidingHorn  BluesKaj  Do I need to put a cell/battery in boya m1 mic? or change the button in some way? http://www.boya-mic.com/Upload/1499065820.jpg
[14:05] <bipul> I have tried googling. And found a link, but i'm not sure it's the correct way to know/identify TUN/TAP is enabled or not. https://www.copahost.com/blog/openvpn-in-ubuntu-tun-tap/
[14:07] <BluesKaj> bipul, for what do you want to use it ?
[14:11] <bipul> BluesKaj, OpenVPN
[14:12] <BluesKaj> bipul, ok, so want to monitor your vpn connection?
[14:19] <bipul> Yes.
[14:24] <BluesKaj> bipul, are you setting up a vpn server/client like what's shown in the url you posted?
[14:24] <bipul> Yes.
[14:24] <bipul> sir do you know the solution for my problem? Then kindly let me know? :(
[14:26] <BluesKaj> bipul, run cat /dev/net/tun, If the output shows “File descriptor in bad state”, then it means it is working correctly.
[14:27] <bipul> Why bad sector is indication of working correctly?
[14:29] <tomreyn> "ip tuntap" will list TUN/TAP devices you have setup. you can also use this command (suppying additional options) to create and delete TUN/TAP devices. "ip route" shows how traffic is routed through these devices, if any.
[14:30] <tomreyn> kernel documentation is at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/tuntap.txt
[14:33] <bipul> okay thank you tomreyn and BluesKaj
[14:46] <tamarind> guys, i had installed ubuntu v16 earlier on my machine and then installed wine using the package manager. This presented me with an open with wine option when ever i click on an .exe file.
[14:46] <tamarind> Now i have installed the ubuntu 18 and the default wine using the package manager and it only operates command line !
[14:47] <tamarind> it does not present me an open with wine option, as well as the other wine tools are not available now
[14:47] <tamarind> can somebody help me why and how to fix this please ?
[14:50] <tomreyn> There is/was not "Ubuntu 16" or "Ubuntu 18". there is / was Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, 16.10, 18.04 LTS and 18.10.
[14:51] <tomreyn> i would recommend against relying on wine for anything you require to be working reliably.
[14:51] <tomreyn> !wine
[14:51] <tamarind> tomreyn, thanks for replying and sorry for inadequate details. it was 16.04 LTS and now its 18.04 LTS
[14:53] <tamarind> tomreyn, but my old hardware lags when i run a virtual os to run the package. and more over i ran perfectly fine in 16.04 with wine
[14:54] <tamarind> tomreyn, and its just games, and microsoft office probably
[14:54] <leftyfb> tamarind: as was told to you already, try asking in #winehq
[14:56] <tamarind> leftyfb, thank you
[15:03] <deadrom> hi
[15:04] <deadrom> 16.04 to 18.04, fresh install actually, remote machine won't redirect pulseaudio to this one anymore. what's missing?
[15:08] <leftyfb> deadrom: to "this"?
[15:09] <deadrom> leftyfb: "this one". the upgraded machine.
[15:09] <tomreyn> explain how you're accessing remotely, how you'd expect audio to become available on the other system accessing the upgraded system.
[15:11] <tomreyn> maybe you're missing a cookie-file https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man5/pulse-client.conf.5.html
[15:15] <somenamewhichisn> I've Nvidia 415 drivers with plasma on 18.10. I'm having problems with slight screen tearing even when using the intel prime profile. ( Vsync is set at full screen repaints) I found a solution to make a 20-intel.conf file and adding a 'tearfree' parameter in it. I read how suse prime package works by copying xorg-intel.conf or xorf-nvidia.conf into the xorg conf.d directory. Does Ubuntu's prime-select package works in a similar way? If yes,
[15:15] <somenamewhichisn> then where i find the intel conf file to edit.
[15:15] <deadrom> tomreyn: from alice I ssh -X into the machine bob. there I launch audio applications who should redirect sound form bob to alice. alice has been upgraded.
[15:16] <somenamewhichisn> Any help would be appreciated
[15:16] <deadrom> somenamewhichisn: you said you found a solution... what exactly do you need?
[15:17] <tomreyn> deadrom: i think it still works like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/371687/how-to-carry-audio-over-ssh
[15:18] <tomreyn> obviously you'll need to redo this configuration you previously did on this system, since you reinstalled it.
[15:20] <somenamewhichisn> deadrom: by adding ' Option "TearFree" ' to the Device section of intel conf file
[15:21] <deadrom> somenamewhichisn: sorry, can't follow
[15:22] <tomreyn> deadrom: the pulse cookie should be located at ~/.config/pulse/cookie
[15:23] <tomreyn> somenamewhichisn: you can place the file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (create directory + file there if it does not exist) and restart X.
[15:23] <somenamewhichisn> deadrom: I folloed this guide <deadrom> somenamewhichisn: sorry, can't follow
[15:24] <somenamewhichisn> I followed this guide https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php?topic=2790.0
[15:24] <deadrom> ok, other issue first: I installed some packages my user does not see. I just installed xtightvncviewer for example, root sees /usr/bin/xtightvncviewer with 755 rights, but user gets on ls "file not found"
[15:24] <somenamewhichisn> tomreyn: Yes its fixing the tearing but the problme is i cant switch to nvidia, only intel
[15:25] <tomreyn> somenamewhichisn: i see. sorry, i don't know how prime works exactly.
[15:25] <deadrom> somenamewhichisn: what happens when you prime-select nvidia?
[15:27] <somenamewhichisn> If I have the intel conf file in xorf.conf.d then sddm fails to apear
[15:27] <somenamewhichisn> when selecting nvidia
[15:30] <deadrom> somenamewhichisn: pastebin that intel file in .d
[15:34] <deadrom> um. did 18.04 introduce apparmor or some other beyond-fs-rights-restrictions? I have installed executable files which I cannot see as a user
[15:40] <deadrom> aaaaarrggh forget it, I'm an idiot, I was in the old installtion as chroot....
[15:40] <SlidingHorn> deadrom: I was gonna say - apparmor has been implemented for like a decade
[15:50] <AsFelix> Hi everyone.
[15:50] <AsFelix> where can I found the log of this channel?
[15:52] <leftyfb> AsFelix: why do you need it?
[16:00] <AsFelix> leftyfb, someone was talking about netstat before, but I had to leave and I missed a parameter I wanted to test here
[16:00] <leftyfb> AsFelix: feel free to ask again
[16:00] <leftyfb> 2018 Dec 19 08:47:15 <BluesKaj>	bipul, use with netstat, example netstat -tuntap in the console
[16:01] <leftyfb> that is the only mention of netstat today
[16:01] <deadrom> AsFelix: check th IRC info links on topic or google, I think there is a log
[16:01] <AsFelix> leftyfb, yeah! Thank you.
[16:01] <deadrom> where has pulseaudio-module-x11 gone..?
[16:02] <deadrom> not in 18.04 anymore
[16:03] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, yeah that was a user trying to setup openvpn with tun/tap
[16:23] <nkoren> (Asking again) When using Chromium (or Chrome), all keyboard shortcuts are disabled when any input element has focus. Drives me crazy. Any way to fix this? I'm using Unity FWIW
[17:09] <rainehdaze> I've been trying to get wifi to work with a new adapter, and after getting the drivers installed for it things are... almost working. But whenever I try to connect through the gui, it just sticks on "configuring interface" then nothing happens. Via command line and "error: connection activation failed: (53) the wi-fi network could not be found." and similar
[17:20] <ItsAVortex> hello. is there any way to perform this fix with no internet at all? I don't have an ethernet connection or tether to work with, only mobile wifi hotspot - https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu
[17:50] <simpledat> Hi is Ubuntu good for new users?
[17:50] <simpledat> as good as Linux Mint for example?
[17:51] <ryuo> simpledat: you realize LM is derived from Ubuntu?
[17:52] <simpledat> ryuo: Sure. But the question still remains :)
[17:52] <vlt> simpledat: Ubuntu is fine for new users.
[17:53] <SimonNL> simpledat; ubuntu is much better
[17:53] <ryuo> simpledat: I suppose it still is, though Ubuntu has historically pushed their own software initiatives. That has created some usability issues in the past.
[17:54] <simpledat> Can I install Ubuntu so it comes with Cinnamon desktop?
[17:54] <simpledat> ryuo: What kind of issues?
[17:55] <ryuo> simpledat: Well, in 18.04 they rolled out systemd, resolved, and netplan to replace ifupdown for the basic network management software.
[17:55] <ryuo> no wait, it was an earlier release but 18.04 was the first LTS with that.
[17:55] <ryuo> err
[17:55] <ryuo> networkd8
[17:55] <ryuo> not systemd.
[17:56] <ryuo> I was a bit annoyed at it, but minor hiccup.
[17:56] <simpledat> ryuo: Does Ubuntu comes with openresolv installed by default?
[17:56] <ryuo> simpledat: openresolv? what's that?
[17:57] <ryuo> Huh. There's a package for that but it's not the default.
[17:57] <simpledat> ryuo: DNS management
[17:57] <ryuo> resolved is now used for managing DNS as well as DNS caching.
[17:57] <ryuo> even on LM.
[17:58] <simpledat> ryuo: Do you have to remove resolved first to use openresolv?
[17:58] <ovrh> Hey everyone
[17:58] <ryuo> what's it do?
[17:58] <simpledat> ovrh: Hi
[17:58] <ryuo> is it like a resolvconf replacement?
[17:59] <simpledat> ryuo: Im used to openresolv thats why I asking.
[17:59] <ovrh> I need to debug my wired connectivity on Ubuntu 18.04, could someone suggest me how I'd go about that? My wired connection has not been working for a week or so, while wifi works just fine
[18:00] <ryuo> simpledat: you can still use it and disable resolved, though then you'll need another way to update DNS servers if you rely on NetworkManager still.
[18:00] <ovrh> I'm sorry for asking this again, I asked the same a few days back but it was during the weekend and the channel wasn't very active
[18:00] <ryuo> ovrh: define "not working"
[18:00] <ryuo> simpledat: /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink on ubuntu 18.04 or newer... you can replace it with something else but it's hardcoded to use resolved by default.
[18:01] <simpledat> ryuo: Oh so did they replace the networkmanager too?
[18:01] <ryuo> simpledat: No, but it's configured to integrate with resolved somehow.
[18:01] <ryuo> it tells resolved in some manner about DNS changes.
[18:01] <ryuo> basically replacing functionality networkd does.
[18:01] <SimonNL> ovrh; already tried resetting the router
[18:02] <ovrh> Sorry, accidentally closed hexchat
[18:02] <ryuo> ovrh: define "not working"
[18:03] <ovrh> SimonNL, Yes, tried resetting, tried restarting the networking service, enabling automatic dns, butnothing
[18:03] <ryuo> simpledat: were you actually using openresolv to add DNS or just relying on automated systems to do it?
[18:03] <ovrh> ryuo, Well, it's kinda hard to do. Basically, the cable is connected, it shows as connected in the top-right menu, but if I turn off the wifi, I have no connection
[18:03] <ryuo> simpledat: if the latter, you may be able to just leave resolved alone.
[18:04] <ryuo> systemd-resolve is how you can manage DNS with it...
[18:05] <ryuo> ovrh: ip address | pastebin
[18:05] <ryuo> ovrh: give us the URL.
[18:05] <ryuo> excuse me
[18:05] <ryuo> ovrh: ip address | pastebinit
[18:06] <ryuo> i forgot, i'm currently on LM. it uses a different paste utility. :|
[18:06] <SimonNL> pastebinit is ok for ubuntu
[18:06] <simpledat> ryuo: What did they rolled out exactly?
[18:06] <ryuo> simpledat: something called pastebin that uses termbin.com
[18:07] <SimonNL> pastebin is ok for LM
[18:07] <simpledat> ryuo: No I mean Ubuntu :)
[18:07] <ryuo> pastebinit
[18:07] <ovrh> ryuo, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rbB3wbPWtb/
[18:07] <ryuo> according to this...
[18:07] <ryuo> hm.
[18:07] <ryuo> you have a connection on the ethernet.
[18:08] <ryuo> hm.
[18:08] <ovrh> Right now it's even showing two in the top-right menu. One by the name of "PCI Ethernet Connected", and another one called "Ethernet Unmanaged"
[18:08] <ryuo> ovrh: ping -I enp4s0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:09] <ryuo> ovrh: does this work?
[18:09] <ovrh> Oh, I also tried to modprobe -r/modprobe -i the driver, but it didn't work either
[18:10] <ovrh> ryuo, Nope, not pinging anything, stuck after the first line
[18:10] <ryuo> Hm.
[18:10] <ryuo> Is your router <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:10] <ovrh> It's <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:10] <ryuo> Oh.
[18:10]  * ryuo mutters.
[18:11] <ryuo> try 254
[18:11] <simpledat> ryuo: You told me that Ubuntu rolled out some packages according to the basic network management. What did they rolled out?
[18:11] <ovrh> It's pinging on 254
[18:11] <ryuo> Then you do have a connection to the network on that iface.
[18:11] <ryuo> Hm.
[18:11] <ryuo> ovrh: ip route | pastebinit
[18:12] <ovrh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rHy6pwQHrF/ what's this?
[18:12] <ryuo> simpledat: i meant they replaced ifupdown, resolvconf, and others with networkd, resolved, and their homegrown netplan.
[18:13] <ryuo> ovrh: your routing table.
[18:13] <tomreyn> though netplan is entirely optional
[18:13] <ryuo> indeed. netplan sucks at the moment. i think it'll be awhile before it's good enough for my servers.
[18:14] <ryuo> ovrh: i have an idea, but first, are you connected to this network through the effected device?
[18:15] <ryuo> ovrh: what should happen when you disconnect from wifi is your default gateway should change to the ethernet device.
[18:16] <SimonNL> should have shown a line in top for the wired ryuo ?
[18:16] <ryuo> SimonNL: ?
[18:16] <ovrh> ryuo, Yes, I'm writing to you from the laptop that has the problem
[18:16] <SimonNL> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev enp3s2 proto dhcp metric 100
[18:16] <SimonNL> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlx801f022e13b4 proto dhcp metric 600
[18:17] <ryuo> ovrh: Ok... can you disconnect from wifi while keeping the ethernet connected and give us the paste of ip address and ip route as before? this time save them to a local file and pastebin them after you reconnect.
[18:17] <ovrh> So, if I disconnect the wifi (which by the way, has its icon with a question mark on it pretty much randomly and I don't know why), I should see changes in the routing table?
[18:17] <SimonNL> shows me this ryuo
[18:17] <SimonNL> both wired and wireless
[18:17] <ryuo> ovrh: yes.
[18:17] <SimonNL> ryuo; the wired is not shown for ovrh
[18:17] <ovrh> Okay, trying, brb
[18:18] <ryuo> SimonNL: indeed, but I suspected it might only define one default gateway....
[18:18] <simpledat> ryuo: Thanks
[18:18] <SimonNL> I was wondering if you noticed ryuo
[18:18] <ryuo> SimonNL: I noticed it missing, but i wasn't sure why.
[18:19] <ryuo> likely their issue is something to do with network configuration.
[18:19] <ryuo> because the iface does work when used explicitly.
[18:20] <ovrh> And I'm back, I think
[18:20] <ryuo> ovrh: you reconnected to wifi?
[18:20] <ovrh> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nGHZFV67gM/ here's the output of both ip route and ip address
[18:20] <ovrh> Yes
[18:20] <ryuo> Ok. Now we know why...
[18:20] <ryuo> it's not defining a default gateway for your ethernet device.
[18:21] <ryuo> in this situation you'd only be able to communicate with devices in the same subnet.
[18:21] <ovrh> Mh. Does it mean I messed it up, or did it mess up on its own?
[18:21] <ovrh> I don't see an option to add a gateway in the settings
[18:21] <ryuo> No idea.
[18:22] <ryuo> I would suggest deleting your current wired connection profile and allowing NetworkManager to create a new one.
[18:23] <ovrh> Let's try
[18:23] <simpledat> ryuo: Do you think vpnfailsafe work with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS? https://github.com/wknapik/vpnfailsafe
[18:23] <ryuo> simpledat: No idea. I don't use VPNs.
[18:24] <FroMaster> Using Ubuntu 18.04.1, how do I do a dhcp release/renew to get a new IP address? I can't seem to find anything in the netplan documentation!
[18:24] <ryuo> but it looks like it's an extension to openvpn.
[18:24] <ryuo> FroMaster: I don't think netplan supports that kind of thing. it's just a generator.
[18:25] <ryuo> FroMaster: what's your backend? networkd?
[18:25] <simpledat> ryuo: vpnfailsafe its more of a feature for openvpn. You can read more about it if you click on the link.
[18:25] <FroMaster> ryuo, It should be the default but I have no idea.
[18:26] <ovrh> I still see two entries in menu even after deleting it o.o blob:https://imgur.com/bf8da9c0-a670-458c-9ef9-d2b0456e28aa
[18:26] <ovrh> https://imgur.com/FGsKtfe
[18:27] <ryuo> FroMaster: given how networkd works, you should be able to trigger it by using ip link to bring the iface down then up again.
[18:27] <ryuo> ovrh: one is probably related to the virtualbox ifaces.
[18:28] <ovrh> Oh makes sense, the unmanaged must be virtualbox
[18:28] <SimonNL> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev vboxnet0 proto kernel scope link src <IP_ADDRESS>  ovrh
[18:29] <ovrh> Yeah that's my dev vm
[18:29] <ovrh> Alright, so, I deleted the connection, stopped the vm (just because), unplugged the cabled, and plugged it back in
[18:30] <ovrh> Clicked connect, and now the wifi icon is gone from up there. I'm fairly sure I'm using the wired connection now
[18:30] <ovrh> Gonna disconnect the wifi, let's see what happens
[18:31] <ryuo> ovrh: uh...
[18:31] <FroMaster> ryuo, I figured out my issue... Ubuntu 18.04 uses a different Client Identifier for DHCP than the typical MAC address. I had to set `dhcp-identifier: mac` as explained in https://netplan.io/examples#windows-dhcp-server
[18:31] <ryuo> FroMaster: I see. You're probably referring to DHCPv6 DUID.
[18:32] <chkno> During the ubiquity live-CD install, is it possible to log in on the ctrl-alt-F2 virtual console?  (The installer UI is hung and I'm trying to get to the logs per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity/AttachingLogs so I can file a better bug report.)
[18:33] <ryuo> chkno: yes? try using the same username as the hostname.
[18:33] <ovrh> It looks like it was working fine, but I still got disconnected from here :/
[18:33] <chkno> ryuo: Thanks!
[18:33] <ryuo> ovrh: no duh. your internal IP changed so the TCP connection broke.
[18:34] <ryuo> the main question is whether it works now as expected for new connections.
[18:34] <SimonNL> ovrh; because the connection to chat was established on wifi
[18:35] <ovrh> It seems to be working
[18:35] <ovrh> Wifi is off, and it's loading pages fine
[18:36] <ovrh> I still wonder what messed it up tho, because it might have been me
[18:37] <SimonNL> ovrh; if there is a chance you probably did
[18:39] <ovrh> SimonNL, I'm inclined to think so. Maybe when I setup the opennic dns-es :|
[18:41] <ovrh> Well, thank you very much guys
[18:45] <ryuo> ovrh: next time, you could try running your own diagnostics to find the source of your network issue.
[18:47] <ovrh> ryuo, How would I do that?
[18:47] <ryuo> ovrh: well, the commands I gave you weren't randomly chosen.
[18:47] <ryuo> ovrh: it's largely a process of logical deduction.
[18:48] <ovrh> Ah, you mean using the same procedure. Definitely, I'll keep that in mind. I did try to search online for it, but to no aval since everything found and tried did not work. And I can't really read a routing table, so there's that
[18:48] <ryuo> they're not complicated.
[18:48] <ryuo> the most important one is the line reading "default ...."
[18:49] <ryuo> for most devices you'll use that is the only route of importance as all others are automatically added implicitly from the IP addresses assigned to the ifaces.
[18:50] <ryuo> it only gets more involved if you're configuring routers.
[18:50] <ryuo> even then, i don't manage any routes in my home router.
[18:51] <ovrh> I don't either, mostly because the router my providers ships is kinda locked in. Couldn't even manage to attach a usb hdd to it to use it as a network drive
[18:51] <ryuo> ovrh: what's your ISP?
[18:51] <ryuo> or rather their connectivity technology.
[18:51] <PCatinean> Hey guys, I am executing a python script as an executabke (using shebang) with nohup
[18:51] <PCatinean> but the print statments to not come up
[18:52] <PCatinean> anyone know why?
[18:52] <ryuo> PCatinean: this isn't a programming support channel.
[18:52] <ovrh> But if I understand this, that default line gives a gateway (the router address) and the device name (enp4s0) for the connection in use, right? The rest after that I'm not sure what it means
[18:53] <PCatinean> ryuo, it's not about programming, the program works fine the output is not being passed by nohup
[18:53] <PCatinean> not asking for help on code
[18:53] <ryuo> ovrh: proto is usually where the route came from.
[18:54] <ryuo> ovrh: metric is the priority of the route.
[18:54] <ovrh> ryuo, I'm not sure if I'm getting this right, but the technology is FTTS, nominal of 100Mbps in download, of which I get about 60/70
[18:55] <ryuo> Ah, fiber optics.
[18:55] <ovrh> ryuo, So, if wifi and wired are connected at the same time, and they are respectively 600 and 100, wired will be used, right?
[18:55] <ovrh> ryuo, Yeah, but the lowest tier of it
[18:55] <ryuo> ovrh: hm. that requires either a router with an SFP port, or an adapter for it.
[18:56] <tomreyn> PCatinean: have you read the nohup man page, yet?
[18:56] <ryuo> ... lol
[18:56] <ryuo> "If  standard input is a terminal, redirect it from an unreadable file."
[18:57] <ryuo> O.o
[18:57] <ovrh> ryuo, For... connecting the router to the isp?
[18:58] <ryuo> ovrh: yes. I have to use a cable modem for my ISP.
[18:58] <ryuo> ovrh: i can use my own router, but it varies with the ISP.
[18:59] <ryuo> PCatinean: the man page makes it clear why. nohup redirects input/output/error streams to a file.
[19:00] <ryuo> ovrh: though, i wonder what your setup would allow. openwrt allows a great deal of flexibility in your router.
[19:00] <ovrh> ryuo, The one I have is an integrated modem/router. Connect it directly to the ISP (through the wall plug, which needs an RJ-11 cable), and then connect to the router via wifi/lan
[19:02] <ryuo> ovrh: i wonder if you can configure the router as a passthrough and use a different one connected to that one... treat it as if it were just a modem or gateway device.
[19:05] <ovrh> ryuo, Good question. Before this, I had a different ISP that allowed me to use my own modem/router combo, just had to inside the authentication data and configure a couple values. But this one is weirder. I'm not sure how exactly, but IIRC I read on their website that they provide static IPs to the customers, instead of dynamic ones like everyone else here, which makes you have to use their modem/router. Though it is possible that there might be a
[19:05] <ovrh> configuration option to stick a router on top of that
[19:07] <mutante> ovrh: i think sometimes it's because ISP is actually doing bandwith throttling inside the end-user device and they dont want you to be able to control that
[19:08] <mutante> ovrh: i dont see how that should _not_ be possible though. a routers gotta route... if you tell it to.. and your second router uses a different network
[19:08] <ovrh> mutante, Definitely don't find that hard to believe
[19:09] <mutante> so if the ISP router hands out IPs via DHCP,, i would first turn that off
[19:10] <mutante> and configure a static IP for the other router connected to it.. then create another network, different IP/submask for your "actually private LAN" behind that
[19:10] <mutante> connect your end devices to that.. tell both routers what routes / gateway to use ..
[19:11] <ryuo> basically turn the router into a gateway/firewall.
[19:11] <ovrh> mutante, That sounds prone to me messing it up and having to fix it very often. Also, what device would I use to act just as a router on top of the one I already have? I know all consumer modem/routers on the market can do that, but anything specific?
[19:12] <ryuo> ovrh: probably something based on openwrt.
[19:13] <mutante> ovrh: it could be a Linux server even
[19:14] <mutante> "server" can probably also mean Raspberry Pi nowadays, heh
[19:14] <vincenzoml> hi there. I have a samsung EVO 960 ssd *below* my mainboard in a very small case. I didn't know, when I bought it, that the drive gets to more than 100°C very fast under rsync
[19:14] <compdoc> no heatsink, etc?
[19:14] <vincenzoml> Can I limit the drive bandwidth (in ubuntu, indeed)? I couldn't find anything like this on google.
[19:15] <vincenzoml> compdoc: no heatsink and it seems like there's no space for it
[19:15] <vincenzoml> but I could also live with 1Gb/s bandwidth instead of 1.7 :D
[19:15] <ryuo> vincenzoml: i know of no such mechanic for local IO, only for network.
[19:15] <compdoc> is it a laptop?
[19:15] <vincenzoml> no it's a small case, hell if I remember the name
[19:15] <vincenzoml> let me find it again
[19:15] <compdoc> thats ok
[19:15] <ryuo> vincenzoml: maybe rsync has an application option to throttle its use.
[19:16] <vincenzoml> ryuo: yes, but at that point I would really love to limit it system-wide
[19:16] <vincenzoml> btrfs is also very efficient and for instance btrfs scrub also brings the temperature up very fast
[19:16] <compdoc> vincenzoml, in the file /etc/default/rysnc, you can set options to throttle
[19:16] <compdoc> *rsync
[19:17] <vincenzoml> I'm reading this... should've given xfs a chance it seems :) https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37670_01/E37355/html/ol_use_case4_cgroups.html
[19:18] <ryuo> that's nothing to do with XFS afaik. that's cgroups, a kernel option.
[19:19] <vincenzoml> ryuo: wow, I'm reading that now. I wonder if it could be practical to use it for my case
[19:19] <ryuo> though it was mainly intended for IT purposes.
[19:19] <compdoc> vincenzoml, in the file /etc/default/rsync, you can set options to throttle
[19:19] <ryuo> it's mainly used for containers.
[19:22] <vincenzoml> ryuo: do you know whether the contents of the directory /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio/ are the default settings (maybe from the initial process, init, whatever?)
[19:23] <ryuo> vincenzoml: i guess. i'm not positive.
[19:26] <vincenzoml> ryuo: *** works like a charm. Tested with "sudo hdparm -t". I'm quite astonished.
[19:26] <vincenzoml> it's amazing.
[19:27] <Tralfaz> Hi All. I've recently installed ubuntu 18.04 and am having a problem with python in terms of getting pip updated and installing the "main" module. I've been googling for a couple of days, and have found various "fixes" that seem to conflict, and none work. Is there a "best practice" as to how to update pip, pip3 and install the "main" module in 18.04?
[19:28] <me1t> Tralfaz best to share the error/output that you are getting
[19:28] <me1t> i always did: apt install python-setuptools
[19:29] <me1t> iirc
[19:30] <Tralfaz> I tried that andit didnt make a diff. Everyone I've found on google is getting the same error, so I didnt post it thinkng maybe this was common knowledge....back in a minute
[19:30] <me1t> tjarvis stop spamming
[19:32] <Tralfaz> ok, on long phone call...back with error output later, Thanks for quick responses meanwhile
[19:56] <thagabe> arch channel being dumb. Anyone know how to get a minimal kernel configuration file from the currently running kernel? Like a conf with the current hardware that is plugged into my computer.
[19:56] <ntd> look in /boot
[19:57] <ntd> notice the .config files?
[19:58] <thagabe> yes... but I thought those conf files were the files that were used to build the "generic" x86 kernel ubuntu uses
[20:02] <segwent> hi, i am using virtualbox 5.2.18_Ubuntur123745 .. earlier today i had a win7 guest running with high res monitor but now i cannot get high res enabled .. vbox display adapter only has 800x600 & 640x480 .. i have installed the vbox guest additions
[20:02] <segwent> the host is linux 4.15.0-42-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 19:32:57 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:03] <segwent> does anybody have any idea how i can enable high res monitor again ?
[20:03] <segwent> I had to recreate the win7 guest
[20:13] <talin> hello. i'm installing ubuntu from usb on thunderbolt. during the installation, it asks me for installation type and it has selected my USB stick, which is the only option. what do i have to do to get my hard drive to be an option?
[20:19] <ryuo> talin: it means there's something weird going on with the drive. pastebin your dmesg please.
[20:30] <tomreyn> segwent: check the display properties in the guest OS, both on its driver settings and on the generic desktop configuration GUI. make sure they dont artificially restrict the resolution there. also make sure the VM has sufficient v(ideo)ram assigned in the vbox configuration for this VM (need to stop the guest to edit these settings).
[20:33] <segwent> tomreyn: it has 64mb ram and i have switched from vbox display driver to ms display driver, it is a little better but not great
[20:33] <segwent> thanks anyway
[20:33] <segwent> strange that it worked earlier today and now not :(
[20:34] <tomreyn> segwent: i hope you mean VRAM, not RAM
[20:34] <segwent> er yeah vram ;)
[20:35] <segwent> not that vbox makes such a distinction
[20:37] <tomreyn> sure, it does.
[20:38] <segwent> oh wait .. you mean video ram not virtual ram
[20:38] <tomreyn> i'm running upstream version 5.2.22 r126460 on ubuntu 18.04.1, got a windows 7 VM whose "Generic Non-PNP Monitor" display shows as 1600x1200 on the guest.
[20:38] <tomreyn> yes, video ram.
[20:39] <segwent> that is what i had earier today
[20:39] <segwent> but now all i get from the vbox driver is 800x600
[20:40] <segwent> i can get higher with vmsvga but only 4:3 not 16:9
[20:42] <segwent> ni .. i want 1600x900 i thinkl
[20:42] <segwent> i mean no*
[20:42] <tomreyn> it should auto-scale if you have it enabled.
[20:43] <segwent> no the driver reports only 800x600 available
[20:43] <tomreyn> that's with the "VirtualBox Graphics Adapter" driver version <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:43] <kk4ewt> segwent,  and you have installed guest additions
[20:43] <kk4ewt> in the guest
[20:44] <segwent> kk4ewt: yes v5.2.18 GA
[20:44] <kk4ewt> you need the 5.2.22
[20:44] <kk4ewt> or go ahead and jump on version 6
[20:45] <segwent> i am being held back by my distro .. Mint 19
[20:45] <segwent> i know i can update but this all worked earlier today ..
[20:45] <tomreyn> this channel is only for ubuntu support.
[20:46] <segwent> vboxmanage -version 5.2.18_Ubuntur123745
[20:48] <Rapture> anybody happen to know the size of the desktop version Ubuntu 18.04 LTS minimal install?
[20:49] <NorthwestVegan> i thknk its about 4GB
[20:49] <Rapture> NorthwestVegan: cool thanks
[20:50] <NorthwestVegan> yeah my ubuntu server .qcow image is 4.3GB
[20:50] <NorthwestVegan> no problem
[21:00] <mmercer> what is the proper parameter for disabling ipv6 during preseed?
[21:01] <mmercer> adding ipv6.disable=1 to the kernel line is not sufficient apparently, as once the machine boots and goes through the network phase, it allocates an ipv6 address even though you have told it not to at the kernel level
[21:04] <tomreyn> mmercer: which ubuntu version, which installer are you preseeding?
[21:11] <mmercer> tomreyn: in this case,  ubuntu14.10, but will need to do the same for 14, 16, 18
[21:11] <mmercer> and specifically, -server versions
[21:11] <mmercer> (server amd64)
[21:13] <tomreyn> mmercer: 14.10? that's eol for years.
[21:14] <mmercer> yeah.... i know...
[21:14] <mmercer> dont remind me :(
[21:15] <mmercer> sorry... 14.04 not 14.10  its confusing as crap that there is an LTS version and a non lts version in the same exact set
[21:19] <mmercer> so yeah, its still 'in life' though id rightfully be happy if it wasnt.  unfortunately, we havent quite replaced all of them.. so i need to build a few new ubuntu 14.04.05 images without ipv6 and the preseed option doesnt appear to be documented
[21:31] <tomreyn> mmercer: i guess i shouldn't ask why you don't 'just' do ipv6 as everyone should? but i'm afraid i don't actually know a good answer to your question either, i just asked for more details to enable someone who know to respond to a more specific question.
[21:31] <tomreyn> mmercer: maybe ask in #ubuntu-server, too
[21:32] <mmercer> ironically, i think the issue was because i was using the wrong release xD  ill know for sure in a sec
[21:39] <mmercer> yeap... i was using the wrong iso and it was rightfully going 'who do you think you are, even we wont support this one'
[21:39] <mmercer> xD
[21:39] <mmercer> 14.10!=14.04 upgraded....
[21:41] <tomreyn> glad i asked ;)
[21:51] <LIONGENZ9629> I have put Ubuntu on a usb to carry around. I can’t boot it on a computer. I get the message that it is booting. But it doesn’t actually boot. Help?
[21:54] <elias_a> LIONGENZ9629: Are you sure you are using the right architecture? 32 vs 64 bit?
[21:56] <elias_a> Right - too busy to read nor answer the answer. :)
[21:59] <halvard> I ran unhide and this showed up: sysinfo.procs reports 745 processes and ps sees 746 processes
[22:00] <halvard> what can it be?
[22:02] <halvard> also running rkhunter this showed up:  /usr/bin/lwp-request    [ Warning ]
[22:03] <tomreyn> read their man pages. at least rkhunter is known to report lwp-request as a false positive.
[22:04] <tomreyn> if you want actual security, read the ubuntu security guide and make use of an intrustion detection / prevention system.
[22:09] <Jakethepython> hello room
[22:10] <Jakethepython> i am having trouble installing CodeLite
[22:10] <Ace1313> Can't start Linux Mint Rosa, possibly due to Virtual Box
[22:11] <tomreyn> !mint | Ace1313
[22:13] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: how do you install, what happens when you do, and which ubuntu release are you running?
[22:13] <Jakethepython> sudo apt-get install codelite wxcrafter
[22:13] <knuckae> Hey
[22:14] <Jakethepython> Depends: libclang1-3.6 (>= 3.2) but it is not installable
[22:15] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: and the Ubuntu releas?
[22:15] <Jakethepython> 4.15.0-42-generic
[22:16] <SlidingHorn> that's a kernel...which version & flavor of ubuntu?
[22:16] <Jakethepython> ohh 18
[22:16] <Jakethepython> 18.04
[22:16] <thagabe> I want to kermit .....
[22:17] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: well, wxcrafter is not a package available in the repositories.  Are you using a PPA?
[22:17] <Jakethepython> i could be
[22:17] <Jakethepython> i installed PPA
[22:18] <Jakethepython> i thought i did anyway
[22:18] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: Sounds like the maintainer goofed with their package.  I'd recommend removing the PPA and installing the version of codelite in the official repositories
[22:19] <Jakethepython> ok
[22:19] <Jakethepython> which are the offical repositories?
[22:19] <halvard_> I did some more research and got some warnings from rkhunter: https://pastebin.com/EMQ10RW7
[22:20] <halvard_> Someone have any ideas for futher security checks?
[22:21] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: well first, you would want to remove the PPA you added with       sudo ppa-purge ppa:nameof/ppa     (nameof/ppa would be replaced with whatever was after the ppa:  in the add-apt-repository command you ran to add it)
[22:25] <Jakethepython> It never actully installed i went back through my stuff i installed aptitude
[22:27] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: well, you have some sort of PPA set up, otherwise you wouldn't have the dependency issue, so I would suggest finding and removing that.  Without doing that, I won't be able to help you
[22:30] <Jakethepython> The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/pdfchain-team/ppa/ubuntu bionic Release' does not have a Release file.
[22:30] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: is there a guide you were following to install codelite?
[22:31] <Jakethepython> https://askubuntu.com/questions/330268/how-to-install-codelite-on-ubuntu
[22:32] <tomreyn> halvard_: if there are reasons you should distrust your system then you should reinstall from scratch, then restore verified safe backups.
[22:33] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: the pdfchain thing is another issue, but okay, that second link will help...please post the output of    cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:33] <SlidingHorn> (we'll get the pdfchain thing fixed after we get the codelite issue resolved
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Jakethepython: System is telling you the truth : https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/10/08/design-and-web-team-summary-8-october-2018 . Last supported release was saucy in 2013-05-14 20:33 .
[22:35] <Jakethepython> http://termbin.com/1b3b
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Jakethepython: Opps : That be http://ppa.launchpad.net/pdfchain-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ :)
[22:37] <Jakethepython> so remove the pdfchain-team?
[22:38] <tomreyn> yes, this should be: sudo ppa-purge ppa:pdfchain-team/ppa
[22:40] <Jakethepython> ppa-purge: command not found
[22:40] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: okay - open the Software & Updates application, and click on the Other Software tab...find the entries for codelite in the list, and click the "remove" button
[22:41] <Bashing-om> !info pdfchain bionic
[22:41] <tomreyn> !info ppa-purge bionic
[22:41] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: let's ignore the pdfchain stuff for a moment.   One problem at a time
[22:43] <sla3k> is this right cron to run every Sunday at 11:59 PM? 59 23 * * 0 /bin/bash /my/script.sh I am not sure if this is the right channel for this though
[22:45] <Jakethepython> ok that is removed
[22:46] <tomreyn> sla3k: it's correct, but depending on how you're using it you may also need to specify the user name to run it as in the 6th field (before the actual command to run)
[22:46] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: okay, now:    sudo apt update    when that's done, then run    sudo apt install codelite
[22:47] <sla3k> tomreyn: thanks, the script and the user creating cron are the same, so I am hoping it will work, otherwise it is good to know that I can add a user as well. thanks  for that :)
[22:47] <Jakethepython> that did it thank you
[22:48] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: okay, now let's fix the pdfchain thing.....
[22:48] <Jakethepython> ok
[22:48] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: run the following:     sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:pdfchain-team/ppa
[22:48] <tomreyn> sla3k: my point is that depending on where you place this line you'll either have to or may not specify the user to run it as.
[22:49] <tomreyn> i.e. it's not an optional thing, file formats differ.
[22:49] <Jakethepython> ok
[22:50] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: now a question - were you wanting to install pdftk or pdfchain?
[22:51] <Jakethepython> yes pdfchain i use a lot for work
[22:52] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: is pdftk a serviceable replacement?  (I'm not familiar with pdfchain, personally, and I don't see an up-to-date way of installing it on a cursory search)
[22:53] <Jakethepython> pdfchain still seems to b installed
[22:53] <Jakethepython> if i do sudo pdfchain it opens
[22:54] <Jakethepython> pdftk should be OK
[22:54] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: oh, pdfchain is just a GUI for pdftk, it seems
[22:54] <Jakethepython> ahhh ok
[22:55] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: okay, I'm going to recommend you remove pdfchain, as it's an old, unmaintained application that is likely to cause problems
[22:55] <Jakethepython> ok
[22:55] <Jakethepython>  i tried sudo apt remove pdfchain that didn't work
[22:57] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: oh, we may need to re-add that PPA temporarily, then remove pdfchain, and remove the PPA again...so:     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pdfchain-team/ppa && sudo apt update
[22:58] <Jakethepython> it is disabled
[22:59] <maetthew> Anyone got a solution for when icons on the desktop get partially obstructed by Plank? I'm on Budgie 18.04 (screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/mYJenv6)
[23:00] <Jakethepython> Unable to locate package pdfchain
[23:00] <maetthew> Also when new icons appear they get stacked on top of each other. For instance when a usb stick gets mounted
[23:01] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: let's not get ahead....if there were errors with the exact command I posted, please post them (if they're multiple lines, use a pastebin like paste.ubuntu.com and give the link)
[23:02] <tomreyn> i think you want to "sudo apt-get update" after adding an apt source
[23:03] <Jakethepython> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[23:03] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: apt update and apt-get update should essentially do the same thing
[23:05] <tomreyn> SlidingHorn: yes, please ignore my comment. personally i'd remove the repository (apt source and its apt signing key), then identify and purge packages which have no installation candidate (at least those installed from this repo) and then optionally install those packages you need from the now remaining apt sources.
[23:06] <tomreyn> * have no installation candidate, no upgrade path, or are a version which is not available in the currently enabled apt repositories
[23:06] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: would you be able to help Jakethepython remove the package(s) that he somehow installed with this repo?
[23:07] <tomreyn> i guess ppa-purge would have done it, that's what i suggested.
[23:07] <tomreyn> i can also try to do guide manually, but it will take a while.
[23:08] <SlidingHorn> Jakethepython: okay, so then we need to add the ppa-purge package...      sudo apt install ppa-purge
[23:08] <Jakethepython> ok
[23:09] <tomreyn> ahem, this said it's possible that ppa-purge would have had trouble with the missing release file as well, and i'm not certain that it actually deletes the signing key.
[23:09] <Shasirax_> Hey guys, I was recently here with some problems with transmission on my Ubuntu headless server. Now after some testing I've realized one of the hdd's of the system has a bad sector and is the main reason for all my problems. Trying to save whatever I can from the disk... I have a copy/move speed of about 2 Mb/s and there is about 2.5 TB data on the drive (I won't even try to save it all). Anyone have any suggestion to how I can bo
[23:09] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: Jakethepython : Unless things have changed: " If the package installed from a PPA doesn't exist in official Ubuntu repositories then using PPA Purge is not recommended, because there's nothing to be downgraded and PPA Purge wouldn't delete it either."
[23:09] <ryuo> Shasirax_: finish your question.
[23:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> i just installed from ubuntu-<IP_ADDRESS>-live-server-amd64.iso and saw some weird cloudinit stuff running on first boot... what's up with that?
[23:09] <Jakethepython> that is installed
[23:10] <SlidingHorn> Bashing-om: what is your suggestion?  We have a package that is definitely installed, but removing with apt says it's not found
[23:10] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: but it does exist in official ubuntu
[23:10] <iosecure> NoImNotNineVolt: That's part of that image.
[23:11] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: i just checked. on bionic, ppa-purge wont remove apt signing keys.
[23:11] <SlidingHorn> Bashing-om: My thought process in that case was to temporarily re-add the PPA and try to remove the package again
[23:11] <Shasirax_> ryuo: Is there any way to make the read speed any quicker? It initially goes at about 70 Mb/s but after about 10 sec of that it slows down to 2 Mb/s.
[23:11] <Jakethepython> im glad that i at least really brake things when i do it :)
[23:11] <tomreyn> SlidingHorn: i just checked. on bionic, ppa-purge wont remove apt signing keys. looks like it's manual either way.
[23:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> iosecure:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit would suggest it's only on ubuntu cloud images or ec2 images.
[23:11] <ryuo> Shasirax_: that suggests an issue such as file fragmentation.
[23:12] <iosecure> NoImNotNineVolt: And yet...
[23:12] <tomreyn> SlidingHorn: would you like to remove it manually?
[23:12] <Shasirax_> ryuo: would a fragmentation of the disk help or could it possibly kill the drive since it has a bad sector?
[23:13] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: would you like to remove it manually?
[23:13] <Shasirax_> defragmentation*
[23:13] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: i can guide
[23:13] <Jakethepython> yes please
[23:13] <ryuo> Shasirax_: when the drive is having issues, it's not good to risk changes.
[23:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> iosecure: is cloudinit just part of the base install of ubuntu server now?
[23:13] <Bashing-om> SlidingHorn: Yeah if the PPA were still in existence. Jakethepython : Maybe try as ' sudo apt autoremove --purge pdfchain ' Assumming that pdfchain is the correct name of the application.
[23:13] <ryuo> Shasirax_: it's best to just copy as much as you can, or care about.
[23:13] <iosecure> NoImNotNineVolt: From that particular images, yes.
[23:14] <ryuo> Shasirax_: if it were otherwise healthy i'd say give it a go.
[23:14] <Jakethepython>  Unable to locate package pdfchain
[23:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> is there an alternate 18.04 ubuntu server image that doesn't include cloudinit?
[23:14] <Shasirax_> ryuo: I see. That's basically what I'm doing right now. Luckily it's mostly "none important" data on the drive :)
[23:14] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: start with this: sudo apt update; sudo apt purge pdftk pdfchain; sudo apt --purge autoremove
[23:15] <tomreyn> NoImNotNineVolt: yes. linked on the download page for the official ("live") server images
[23:15] <ryuo> Shasirax_: there's not really any tools for defragmenting volumes, though there are tools that can detect it.
[23:15] <iosecure> NoImNotNineVolt: Yes. The alternate installer ISO, which is the same as the old server ISOs.
[23:15] <ryuo> Shasirax_: technically btrfs has a defragmentor, but it doesn't always work.
[23:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh, i thought the only difference would be the actual installer, not the end result :P
[23:15] <ryuo> Shasirax_: see filefrag for more information.
[23:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> (and i was just saying how nice the new installer is!)
[23:16] <Shasirax_> ryuo: "doesn't always work" seem like a bad combination with a failing hdd^^
[23:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> thanks for clarifying.
[23:16] <Shasirax_> ryuo: Thanks. I'll look it up!
[23:17] <leonardus> Should I be using 18.10 or 18.04.1 LTS?
[23:17] <Jakethepython> pdfchain is still not found
[23:18] <Jakethepython> : Unable to locate package pdfchain
[23:18] <hggdh> leonardus: 18.04 is supported for 5 years, 18.10 for 9 months
[23:18] <leonardus> hggdh: so as long as I keep upgrading I'll be fine?
[23:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's a fairly strict upgrade schedule
[23:19] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: ok, but did it fail due to that? i dont think so, right?
[23:19] <Jakethepython> yes
[23:19] <hggdh> leonardus: sort of, yes. Keep in mind you should upgrade, then to every next release until 20.04 arrives
[23:19] <Jakethepython> it failed saying that error
[23:20] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: ok, then just do this: sudo apt update; sudo apt purge pdftk; sudo apt --purge autoremove
[23:20] <Jakethepython> that is done
[23:22] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: whats the output of: rgrep -l pdfchain /etc/apt/sources.list* 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:23] <Jakethepython> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pdfchain-team-ubuntu-ppa-bionic.list
[23:24] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: okay, now just delete this file, using sudo.
[23:25] <Shasirax_> ryuo: I've done a couple of filefrag tests now. Could you take a look the results? It doesn't really make much sence to me.
[23:26] <ryuo> Shasirax_: sure, I guess.
[23:26] <Jakethepython> ok
[23:27] <Shasirax_> ryuo: https://pastebin.com/kAuf0KrM
[23:27] <ryuo> Shasirax_: the number of extents is the number of "fragments".
[23:28] <ryuo> Shasirax_: an extent of 1 has no fragmentation.
[23:29] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: sudo apt-key del A9D1BCBA633A39500FF755E677C1049966556FAF; sudo apt-key list
[23:29] <Shasirax_> ryuo: I see. So this file has 2 or 2 fragmentations, which isn't what is prefered. Am I right? And only a defrag would fix this?
[23:29] <Shasirax_> 2 or 3*
[23:29] <Jakethepython> ok
[23:30] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: then check whether this key is indeed no longer listed. it may be listed with spaces in it, or just the latter 8 or 16 characters of this fingerprint
[23:30] <ryuo> Shasirax_: yes, but a defrag is typically done by copying the file and hoping it'll get allocated in one contiguous chunk.
[23:30] <ryuo> Shasirax_: and then using the new copy to replace the original.
[23:30] <ryuo> there's no low level defrag to my knowledge.
[23:31] <Jakethepython> i don't see the key
[23:31] <Jakethepython> listed
[23:32] <Shasirax_> ryuo: It's that simple? haha Did not know that. TIL. Well that won't help for me. Reading the file or copying it would take way too long for it to help... Thanks anyway dude! :)
[23:32] <Jakethepython> should i still be able to open PDF chain at this point?
[23:33] <Shasirax_> Thanks to all you people helping in here! You're awesome :)
[23:33] <ryuo> Shasirax_: also note, this won't work if you lack sufficient contiguous free space.
[23:33] <tomreyn> Shasirax_: if your storage is dying the standard way to try to recover data is dd-rescue, creating an image of the storage or partition / file system, not trying to read the file system
[23:33] <tomreyn> in fact you should not mount the file system writable in the first place.
[23:34] <tomreyn> (or better not at all)
[23:34] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: no. please use my nickname in your messages when addressing me so that i will know when you do.
[23:35] <Jakethepython> tomreyn: i can still open pdfchain
[23:35] <Shasirax_> tomreyn: This! Thanks! This will probably save me sooo much time. I'll try it right away :)
[23:35] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: if you are still able to run it now it means it was installed by other means than a package.
[23:35] <Jakethepython> so should we just leave it or is it better to remove it?
[23:35] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: which pdfchain
[23:35] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: this is a command, what does it return?
[23:36] <Jakethepython> sudo pdfchain and the program pops up
[23:36] <Jakethepython> PDF Chain <IP_ADDRESS> - A graphical user interface for the PDF Toolkit
[23:36] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: running it with sudo is a bad idea. please tell me what the output of "which pdfchain" is
[23:37] <Jakethepython> tomreyn: /usr/local/bin/pdfchain
[23:37] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: this is probably a binary you built yourself or installed by other means than using a debian package. to confirm this, run: dpkg -S $(which pdfchain)
[23:38] <Jakethepython> tomreyn: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/pdfchain
[23:40] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: so you or a co-admin of this computer we're working on has installed this binary by other means. i don'T iknow how, but it probably lacks an upgrade path and probably means you're using a very outdated and likely insecure version.
[23:40] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: It *looks* like this was built from source using the archive on sourceforge  /cc: Jakethepython
[23:41] <tomreyn> SlidingHorn: based on?
[23:41] <tomreyn> this could be anything at this point
[23:41] <Jakethepython> tomreyn: so how can we remove it
[23:41] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: i cannot help you remove this properly since it wont be possible to reliably determine how it was installed.
[23:42] <tomreyn> that's why you don't normally install software by means other than debian packages (debs)
[23:42] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: it matches the version number from the latest release on the SF page:   https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfchain/files/
[23:42] <tomreyn> unless you know what you're doing and document the process so you have a chance of removing it properly later
[23:42] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: and that was released *after* the PPA he had was already dead
[23:43] <tomreyn> SlidingHorn: ok, but this is not enough to conclude that this is the source of this installation.
[23:43] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: to be fair, I didn't say I was certain of it ;)
[23:43] <tomreyn> i agree it's well possible.
[23:44] <tomreyn> right, i understand so much.
[23:45] <Jakethepython> cd pdfchain-<IP_ADDRESS>/
[23:45] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: you can delete the file, but chances are that there are other files *at least* below /usr/local/ which are related to it, and shoould be removed as well.
[23:46] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: another problem with installing software the way it was done there is that you don't have an upgrade path: you don't get security patches, neither automatically or on demand (through apt).
[23:48] <Jakethepython> so if i have the path that i configured it can i remove it that way?
[23:48] <maetthew> Anyone got a solution for when icons on the desktop get partially obstructed by Plank? I'm on Budgie 18.04 (screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/mYJenv6)
[23:48] <maetthew> Also when new icons appear they get stacked on top of each other. For instance when a usb stick gets mounted
[23:51] <tomreyn> SlidingHorn: if you'll remove the pdfchain installation you have there, the next step should be to install it from the standard ubuntu repositories, which is then (unless you have yet more PPAs setup which provide this package) as simple as "sudo apt update; sudo apt install pdfchain".
[23:52] <tomreyn> jackmcbarn: ^ actually this was for you
[23:52] <SlidingHorn> tomreyn: pdfchain itself doesn't have a ppa or repo package.  pdftk (the application it serves as a front-end for) does have a snap, however /cc Jakethepython
[23:55] <Jakethepython> so should i just leave it?


[07:49] <MooDoo> howdy all
[08:18] <SuperMatt> morning MooDoo
[08:19] <MooDoo> morning SuperMatt when you start your new job?
[08:23] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:24] <SuperMatt> In the new year
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon :)
[08:25] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: excellent :)
[08:26] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo :)
[09:27] <diplo> Whats the new job then SuperMatt - can't be bothered to scroll up :)
[09:28] <MooDoo> diplo: tea boy....sheesh keep up ;)
[09:34] <diplo> :P
[09:51] <SuperMatt> diplo: I'm going to be working for Yelp
[09:51] <SuperMatt> as a tea boy
[09:51] <SuperMatt> don't even drink the stuff myself, but someone has to do the job
[09:51] <MooDoo> lol well done any way SuperMatt i'm sure you'll rock at it
[09:52] <SuperMatt> I'm sure I will
[09:53] <SuperMatt> I'm going to be working with a couple of guys I've known since my crazy young goth days
[10:04] <diplo> Good luck, always thought Yelp were an american thing, never see it referenced in the UK
[10:18] <fjaiohgae> HI All, just updated to 17.10 and I noticed that the compress file ( from the filebrowser context menu ) does not have a password protection anymore, is this permanently gone or this was just a design bug and it's just hidden somewhere ? This is a pretty basic function which was removed :S
[10:40] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:41] <SuperMatt> fjaiohgae: I believe this is something which has come from gnome upstream. You may need to raise a bug with them. Lemme tesk it in a vm first though
[10:42] <MooDoo> howdy czajkowski :)
[10:42] <czajkowski> doody
[10:42] <czajkowski> anyone on 17.04 and found skype not working today by any chance ?
[10:42] <czajkowski> like it opens , I log in and then low and behold nothing actually works
[10:43] <fjaiohgae> SuperMatt: I just picked up with the Nautilus guys on the gnome irc, and yes it's Gnome upstream "issue" they integrated the zip into the file browser to replace the file-roller, but basics like password on zip was missed ... :S
[10:44] <SuperMatt> Right, so it's their issue, and it's just been picked up by Ubuntu as they use Gnome upstream
[10:46] <fjaiohgae> well .. I fall back to CLI for now and move on I hope this will be fixed soon
[10:47] <SuperMatt> now you've raised it with the nautilus guys, I'm sure they will
[10:47] <SuperMatt> of course, you can always load fileroller manually
[10:50] <SuperMatt> yup, that's possible
[10:51] <MooDoo> czajkowski: seems ok, it's let me login, and check settings cam etc
[10:55] <czajkowski> I had to upgrade it seems
[10:55] <MooDoo> co
[10:55] <MooDoo> cool
[11:09] <foobarry> 169 tabs in firefox :|
[11:09] <foobarry> need to set aside some time to close some tabs
[11:12] <diplo> How the hell do you ever work with so many, I thought I have to many, but mine I hit 20 odd and it's enough
[11:13] <SuperMatt> No more than 10 for me
[11:13] <diplo> yeah 10 and I think I should shut some down, normally when I'm busy
[11:17] <foobarry> i need help
[11:18] <foobarry> got it to 86 by closing all issue tickets, and github pages
[11:18] <foobarry> and other cruft
[11:18] <foobarry> i also have 40 terminal windows open
[11:18] <foobarry> desktop > laptop.
[11:19] <foobarry> i like a bit of continuity in my work, and perhaps put something aside for a week and pick it up on friday etc
[11:22] <diplo> hah and I have issues with 10+ terminal windows, maybe I have OCD issues :)
[11:23] <MooDoo> i'm using i3 WM so i'm all about terminals lol
[11:24] <diplo> I'm debating giving that a go, getting on well with it MooDoo ?
[11:25] <diplo> I have one browser window on this machine for Nagios, the rest are all terminals
[11:25] <MooDoo> diplo: yes love it, you have to get used to some things but yes i like it as i'm also using terminator so i i can split terminals easier
[11:26] <diplo> Since using solus, I like their terminal and haven't used terminator since ( is installed ) maybe just because of newness :)
[11:28] <MooDoo> yes terminator for me is good in i3
[11:34] <foobarry> diplo: tried nagcon?
[11:34] <foobarry> our big monitoring screens have a massive terminal running nagcon instead of the adagios alerts page
[11:35] <foobarry> https://www.vanheusden.com/nagcon/ its a lot better than the webpage looks
[11:36] <diplo> I shall take a look foobarry
[11:37] <diplo> thanks
[11:39] <foobarry> sent u a pm
[11:39] <foobarry> of a screenshot from ours
[11:39] <foobarry> ewww it didn't work. IMMGGUUURRRR
[13:21] <NET||abuse> ok, i have had another gnome shell glitch, i can see in journalctl exactly where gnome needed to refresh.
[13:22] <NET||abuse> https://hastebin.com/axowuvowab.js
[13:22] <NET||abuse> so at the end you can see at 12:57:30 gnome shell reloads
[13:23] <NET||abuse> but something has been causing glitches like this frequently through my day. this was a fresh 17.10 install 2 weeks ago,
[13:23] <NET||abuse> these glitches have been since day one 2 weeks ago.
[13:23] <NET||abuse> i guess i probably did install some extensions pretty much right away.
[13:24] <NET||abuse> caffeine, pomodoro, refresh wifi, sound input & output device chooser, system-monitor
[13:24] <NET||abuse> that's my present list, plus the 2 ubuntu ones, appindicators and ubuntu dock
[13:26] <NET||abuse> anyone else run into this?
[15:02] <selinuxium> Afternoon  :)
[15:56] <MooDoo>  /quit
[15:56] <MooDoo> exit