[12:31] <panopticon36> just research whatever it is you are looking for on your smart phone lol
[12:32] <SaberX01> panopticon36,  well .. I can think of lots of things to go searching for while my server(s) are performing lonn-winded tasks :-)
[12:32] <SaberX01> *long
[12:33] <SolarisBoy> i feel so silly - i only ever used lynx -dump arg didn't even know it was a full text browser lol
[12:33] <SaberX01> Whoops :-)
[12:35] <panopticon36> hey, this is more of an irc basics kinda question
[12:36] <panopticon36> how do you guys make it so your user is not your dns identifyer
[12:37] <lemmoner> nerdtron, I don't even know whether is needed for W7 or not. I just built a low-spec PC for my parents, and the motherboard comes with uefi support
[12:37] <ziyourenxiang> panopticon36: check the freenode FAQ.
[12:37] <panopticon36> thanks
[12:37] <SaberX01> panopticon36, if your refering to hiding your IP addy, it's a cloak
[12:37] <lemmoner> nerdtron,  but i don't know if that's even needed
[12:37] <lemmoner> SaberX01, thx I'll take a look
[12:38] <nerdtron> lemmoner: uefi is not required for win 7, look into the BIOS of the board to disable it, then do the dual boot as usual
[12:38] <n658> hi guys, i dont know whats going on.. i have a broadband wireless internet conncetion, when i connect it through mobile i get download speed about 700kb/s but when i connect it through my laptop with ubuntu i get speed only around 150 kb/s... but  when i boot into windows and use internet i get the same full speed, i have to use manual proxy to use internet. i dont know whats wrong with ubuntu..
[12:40] <rymate1234> how do i get the xfce indicator applet to show my indicators?
[12:40] <rymate1234> running ubuntu 13.10
[12:40] <lemmoner> nerdtron, would uefi bring any benefit? I read that it is kind of a mess that just complicate installation of linux distros. But I'm wondering if it worths keeping it now that most linux distros have sort out the way to coexist with this
[12:42] <nerdtron> lemmoner: i don't think it is worth keeping, on our servers, as long as there is an option to disable uefi, i disable it.
[12:42] <n658> do any one know about that issue
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> n658  this link advizes to install wicd: http://www.timwrightdesigns.com/slow-internet-speed-on-ubuntu-wifi-solved/
[12:43] <iceroot> lemmoner: uefi itself is not the problem and its a good idea to replace the old bios. the big problem is the option secure boot with signed bootloaders mostly controlled by ms keys
[12:44] <pijush> hello
[12:44] <chemist^> n658 maybe it's a bad MTU setting
[12:44] <n658> thanks MonkeyDust, i will check that
[12:45] <lemmoner> iceroot, then can you keep uefi just disabling secure boot?
[12:45] <iceroot> lemmoner: on my machine i can disable secure boot, yes
[12:45] <chemist^> i had a strange issue once...my network manager did not recognize my wifi pci card, while ifconfig and iwconfig commands showed it as powered and in managed mode, ready to use
[12:45] <iceroot> lemmoner: but i still prefer the old bios system because when i got that laptop the uefi implementation was still facing some issues
[12:46] <chemist^> i installed wicd, which recognized it....and then magically, the network-manager did too
[12:46] <chemist^> :D
[12:46] <nerdtron> ch
[12:46] <SaberX01> +1 on BIOS system, UEFI is a problem waiting to happen.
[12:46] <chemist^> i removed wicd and everything worked normally from then on
[12:46] <Allison43> lemmoner, in the UEFI try the legacy mode for both W7 and Linux if it's available , that's what worked on this laptop. Of course I repartitoned the HDD to NTFS and Ext 4 before installling
[12:46] <war9407> With Unity, how do I manually run the little panel thing on the left side? (the bar/dock)?
[12:47] <nerdtron> war9407: what do you mean "run"?
[12:47] <n658> chemist^ what do u mean by bad MTU setting?
[12:48] <war9407> nerdtron: what is the process called that starts that up?
[12:48] <war9407> nerdtron: I need to start the left panel
[12:48] <lemmoner> nerdtron, iceroot, Allison43, SaberX01 thanks for the info
[12:48] <lemmoner> fingers crossed I won't get a headache today :D
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> war9407  start the left panel? what do you mean?
[12:48] <SaberX01> lemmoner, Allison43 If he's in Grub_Legacy mode, he does not the small EFI partition .. can just do a normal Win7-Ubuntu Install.
[12:48] <war9407> ubuntu is broken when you use xrdp or vnc to an ubuntu box
[12:48] <war9407> (13.10)
[12:48] <war9407> so I am working around it and I got it 90% there
[12:48] <war9407> I want to use unity remotely.
[12:49] <war9407> the left side panel, what process is that?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> war9407  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:49] <war9407> The unity desktop does not function over vnc/xrdp.
[12:49] <war9407> This is documented on many forum posts.
[12:49] <Allison43> SaberX01, not grub legacy , legacy node in the uefi
[12:49] <war9407> However, you can manually start processes to get the desktop (it appears), I am 90% there.
[12:49] <Allison43> err mode
[12:49] <chemist^> does anyone here have any experience with ODB-II diagnostics software in ubuntu? for doing a diagnostic check on a car? (VW) ... what software do you advise and what device to use with it?
[12:49] <universal> how to install ttf-mathematica4.1 offline ? like offline installtion of ttf-mscorefonts-installer and flashplugin-installer
[12:50] <SaberX01> Allison43, Yes, Legacy Mode, not EF02
[12:50] <lemmoner> i think I'll go for windows 7, and repartition everything from scratch
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> lemmoner  gparted can partiton too, from a live session
[12:50] <lemmoner> if windows 7 asks for uefi partition, maybe I can keep it for ubuntu as well
[12:50] <SolarisBoy> war9407: you can download the package and any of its  dependancies ahead of time - and use dpkg
[12:50] <lemmoner> if not legacy mode will be fine
[12:50] <nerdtron> lemmoner: create the partition for ubuntu using window 7 so you don't have to create it on the ubuntu installer screen
[12:51] <Allison43> lemmoner, and then after windows , linux if that's what you want to do
[12:51] <war9407> when I run unity , Segmentation Fault (in VNC)
[12:51] <war9407> yeah, trying to find out how to start that left panel
[12:52] <SolarisBoy> universal: you can download the package and any of its  dependancies ahead of time - and use dpkg
[12:52] <Allison43> lemmoner, gparted live cd is an asset most linux users shoukd have
[12:52] <nerdtron> war9407: i'm not using unity so i may be wrong, why not restart x?
[12:52] <SolarisBoy> war9407: sorry wrong target
[12:52] <lemmoner> yep, I just want windows 7 for compatibility reasons
[12:52] <war9407> nerdtron: tried that, it is a well known issue with Ubuntu and xrdp/vnc
[12:53] <war9407> nerdtron: but I am hoping to find a workaround
[12:53] <lemmoner> just gparted on it? or you mean using a linux distro and use gparted included in there?
[12:53] <Allison43> on a live cd /usb , lemmoner
[12:54] <Allison43> use it to partition ahead of the installs, makes the instyalls much easier
[12:54] <max33> ciao
[12:54] <max33> !list
[12:55] <max33> !list
[12:55] <war9407> [ 1517.668308] compiz[4936]: segfault at 60 ip 00007fc8f3dedb40 sp 00007fff7570ed68 error 4 in libcomposite.so[7fc8f3ddd000+21000]
[12:55] <war9407>  :[
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> war9407  the "bar on the left" is part of Unity, which is a shell over Gnome3, search in that direction
[12:55] <Allison43> !gparted > lemmoner
[12:55] <war9407> ah! ok checking/digging, thx.
[12:56] <lemmoner> i'm now thinking of running W7 in a VM inside my Ubuntu distro
[12:57] <lemmoner> which emulator do you recommend? VMware, Qemu, others?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> lemmoner  virtulabox
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> lemmoner  virtualbox
[12:57] <usi> wee
[12:58] <lemmoner> MonkeyDust, thanks
[13:01] <tester56> panopticon36: furthermore ubuntuone client is open source!
[13:03] <SaberX01> Yeah, and UB1 is free, so we should all be thankful for the allocation.
[13:05] <tester56> anyway I have filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-filesync/+bug/1266021
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> tester56  there used be brainstorm, for that kind of suggestions
[13:15] <Panopticon36> test
[13:17] <SaberX01> Test Pass :-)
[13:18] <Panopticon36> yeah, i finally got my ip addy cloak
[13:18] <SaberX01> Panopticon36, They are pretty good about it, if the staff is around .. only takes them a second to do it.
[13:19] <Panopticon36> yeah, once someone noticed me it got taken care of instantly
[13:19] <abailarri> Anyone knows any opensource software like teambox?
[13:19] <SaberX01> who writes the Factoids for this channel?
[13:21] <SaberX01> abailarri, what do you me, know any open source SW .. ?
[13:21] <SaberX01> *mean
[13:22] <abailarri> SW?
[13:23] <abailarri> SaberX01, I need a project manager software for install in my server, but I don't know solutions
[13:25] <SaberX01> abailarri, Oh man, there are tons of them available.
[13:26] <abailarri> for examle?
[13:26] <g1>  "sudo -u postgres createdb ",How can I set a location to store the database on ubuntu?
[13:27] <SaberX01> abailarri, go to Software Center, and in Seach Box Type: Project Management., then select filter Top Rated
[13:28] <abailarri> SaberX01, but I need a web based app, to put in apache
[13:28] <SaberX01> abailarri, You may want filter type "by Relevance" first though.
[13:29] <abailarri> ok
[13:29] <SaberX01> abailarri, here's ten from the guys over at *Nix: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-source-project-management-software.html
[13:30] <abailarri> thanks SaberX01
[13:31] <Alinuxfriend> hi
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Alinuxfriend, greetings
[13:31] <Alinuxfriend> thak
[13:31] <Alinuxfriend> thank
[13:32] <Alinuxfriend> bye
[13:39] <SaberX01> wow, my precise mirror is  .. 95GB
[13:39] <SaberX01> Whoops, wrong channel, sri
[13:40] <Panopticon36> so anybody fuck around with that steamos yet?
[13:40] <Panopticon36> !language | panopticon36
[13:41] <Panopticon36> I swear a lot in my regular speech, So i reported myself. Sorry about that.
[13:41] <Panopticon36> But anyways, has anyone messed around with SteamOS yet?
[13:43] <quem> how common is it for laptops to support port multiplication through the e-sata port?
[13:43] <Gape> Hello, I'm having problem with upgrading 13.04 to 13.10. It seems the upgrade went well, but the software updater still wants to upgrade to 13.10
[13:43] <Gape> After I run the upgrade it stops, saying that there is no new version available
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Gape, terminal time: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Gape, that should grab all 13.10 packages and update your system
[13:56] <Gape> cfhowlett: ill try it, in any case it seems the update was fine, it's just the software updater that still wants to update the system
[13:58] <Gape> cfhowlett: yeah everything is updated according to terminal outputs, but software updater still wants to update from 13.04 to 13.10. If I click 'about this computer' it says i have 13.10, but lsb_release -a prints i have 13.04
[14:02] <Allison43> Gape, maybe you haven't finished updating /upgrading all the default packages in the software updater, check your repositories there , make sure they are 13.10 saucy
[14:03] <Gape> Allison43: Yeah, they are
[14:05] <pardeep> helo
[14:06] <pardeep> helo
[14:07] <Allison43> Gape, also check the /etc/apt/sources.list ands any ppas you might still have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:07] <pardeep> hi i m new user can u give me some tips about this
[14:11] <realm174> Currently running 13.04 on production and on test machine.  Did the update to 13.10 on test machine, and it broke apache, but everything else worked out ok. Is there a way to update to 13.10 without updating apache?
[14:13] <SaberX01> realm174, I dont know the exact details off top of myu head, but I think 13.10 brought in apache 2.4 whihc changed allot of things.
[14:14] <SaberX01> realm174, FYI: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/new_features_2_4.html
[14:14] <realm174> SaberX01: that seems to be the case, which is why I don't want to touch apache just yet. I have too many other things setup that depend on a stable apache.
[14:15] <SaberX01> realm174, and to hold a package: echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[14:16] <SaberX01> realm174, Here's a more formal how-too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27063/how-to-hold-a-package-back-from-being-upgraded
[14:17] <realm174> SaberX01: that seems to be what I'm looking for. Awesome, thanks a bunch!!
[14:24] <chemist^> does anyone here have any experience with ODB-II diagnostics software in ubuntu? for doing a diagnostic check on a car? (VW) ... what software do you advise and what device to use with it??
[14:25] <Outlaw_Star> test
[14:27] <das_> hello
[14:28] <GODDOG> das_: hello
[14:28] <das_> after a long time i am using ubuntu
[14:28] <Pelo> morning folks, I need an app, preferably gui , to check a hdd for bad sectors and such
[14:29] <das_> i would like to know cross compilers for qt to beagle board
[14:29] <Pelo> das_, might have better luck finding a beagle board channel
[14:30] <das_> ya i just installed ubuntu now
[14:30] <das_> and started our native channel
[14:30] <Pelo> das_, ubuntu on a beagle board ?
[14:31] <das_> Pelo, no i want to ssh to BBB
[14:31] <das_> from windows its hard
[14:31] <Pelo> ha , out of my league
[14:31] <das_> so i started with our great OS
[14:32] <sgo11> hi, I am trying to run chrome browser only without any desktop environment. it's working fine by creating .desktop under /usr/share/xsessions. But I just have one problem. I can not maximize anymore. by clicking maximize, it does nothing. I can resize the window with mouse. how can I re-enable the "maximize" feature somehow? thanks.
[14:32] <das_> pelo, i like to do cross compiling of QT apps to BBB
[14:33] <das_> so i have to ssh to BBB
[14:33] <Pelo> das_, I get it, but it's out of my leaque, I'm not that l33t,  I'm just a power user.
[14:34] <das_> pelo, will come up with other thgs
[14:34] <Pelo> das_,  once you've ssh into the BBB, wouldn'T you be compiling inside the BBB ? so If you manage to install qt on it , or anythign else, won'T you just be compiling in BBB and not cross compiling ?
[14:34] <das_> like i have to install tool chain in ubuntu
[14:35] <Pelo> maybe in #linux
[14:35] <Pelo> das_, sounds complicated enough to grab their attenton
[14:35] <das_> pelo, it will be time consuming task
[14:36] <Pelo> das_, also try asking in #linux
[14:36] <das_> sure pelo
[14:36] <das_> thanks for your time
[14:36] <andyfied> Pelo: there's a disk thing build into ubuntu
[14:36] <Pelo> andyfied,  so I do a search for "thing" ?
[14:36] <andyfied> Pelo: Disk Utility
[14:37] <das_> i be back after a while
[14:37] <andyfied> sorry, i forgot what is was :D
[14:37] <Pelo> andyfied, it will check the filesystem but not sure it can do anything more then scandisk in windows
[14:38] <Pelo> andyfied, thanks I'll give it a try
[14:39] <andyfied> Pelo: well you can use badblocks to check for bad sectors, but i don't know about a GUI version
[14:39] <Pelo> andyfied, i'll give that a try, I still need for the resinatll to be complete.
[14:40] <Pelo> bbl
[14:54] <zx> is anyone here?
[14:55] <zx> is there a software which can help my with practicing my typing?
[14:55] <zx> ?
[14:55] <zx> ?
[14:55] <zx> ?
[14:55] <FloodBot1> zx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57] <soman> Can anyone help me run Xubuntu? The problem described here => http://pastebin.kde.org/poshcyq6p/3sduxm
[14:57] <SaberX01> zx, have a look at Klavaro
[14:57] <zx> no
[14:58] <zx> what's that?
[14:59] <SaberX01> soman, I believe after you install / reinstall Grub you also have to Update-Grub too.
[15:00] <SaberX01> zx, that's typing SW you ased about
[15:00] <SaberX01> *asked
[15:00] <soman> SaberX01, how can I do it? I wanted to do it when I run my Xubuntu but I couldn't run it
[15:01] <SaberX01> soman, Full How-Too: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UsgiLd8wniI
[15:16] <feboo> hey, i'm using ubuntu 13.10 on a lenovo edge e330 and i've got a small problem with the internet connection. from time to time, very unreliably, i cannot connect to other machines (only sometimes can i ping other machines on my lan), meaning i cannot browse webpages. the networkmanager shows me that im still connected via wireless to my router. this also happenend at a friends house, so i dont think the router is the problem. the only thing
[15:16] <andybrine> afternoon guys
[15:17] <andybrine> does anyone know if its possible to download music or films from iTunes on ubuntu?
[15:20] <saiarcot895> andybrine: If you can get it to work from Wine, then yes
[15:21] <saiarcot895> andybrine: however, I don't think recent versions of iTunes work in Wine
[15:21] <giacomo__> ciao ho bisogno di aiuto
[15:24] <anton02> how does one install haswell graphics drivers on ubuntu?
[15:25] <anton02> yawn
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> anton02 its built into the kernel. what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:26] <anton02> hitsujiTMO: 13.10
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> anton02: and what exact gpu are you using?
[15:26] <maxin> gnome xfce kde which is better?
[15:26] <anton02> hitsujiTMO: 4670k is my cpu which also contains my gpu
[15:27] <bradles> anyone familiar with adding new users to samba and accessing the share from a windows machine?  I'm using 12.04LTS
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | anton02 try booting with this
[15:27] <SaberX01> maxin, is all personal preference, low resource machines, Xfce would be a better choice, otherwise, it's up to you.
[15:28] <anton02> im not sure if my drivers are hardware 3D accelerated or not.
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> anton02: it does. why do you think otherwise?
[15:29] <anton02> maybe im just using vesa or something
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> anton02: where exactly are you having the issue?
[15:30] <anton02> hitsujiTMO: seems a little laggy is all
[15:30] <bradles> anyone good at troubleshooting samba shares?
[15:30] <anton02> hitsujiTMO: also i may wish to launch a game in the future at some point
[15:31] <epsilon1> amazing, today my Transmission client said that old port is closed. But yesterday it was open and worked well, both incoming and outgoing.  No firewall was on when I checked that.   what could happen?
[15:32] <trijntje> epsilon1: maybe your isp reset your modem?
[15:39] <soman> SaberX01: unfortunarely update-grub didn't helped
[15:39] <linguini> Is it possible to shutdown an Ubuntu Unity instance using only the keyboard?
[15:40] <Outlaw_Star> Linguini: i'm pretty sure the only way to get around unity is to log into a session with a different desktop manager
[15:40] <Outlaw_Star> linguini: gnome-shell and xfce are some examples
[15:42] <trijntje> linguini: what do you whant to do? You can just kill the unity program using 'killall unity' in a terminal
[15:42] <linguini> trijntje: I want to restart a VirtualBox instance with an Ubuntu 13.10 guest, without using my mouse.
[15:43] <bbteufel> wouldn't that just make his session useless ?
[15:43] <Outlaw_Star> Has anyone had the chance to play with SteamOS yet?
[15:43] <trijntje> linguini: in a terminal: unity --replace
[15:43] <trijntje> well yeah, but that is what killing unity will do you your session ;)
[15:44] <Left_Turn> anyone currently on ubuntu 13+?
[15:44] <linguini> To be clear, I want to shutdown (or often, reboot), the virtual machine
[15:44] <Outlaw_Star> left_turn: aye
[15:44] <trijntje> linguini: why not just use virtualbox to do that? Just close the window
[15:45] <Left_Turn> Outlaw_Star, can you do 'apt-cache search python3.3'  .. for me and tell me if it returns python3.3 please
[15:45] <Outlaw_Star> left_turn: one moment
[15:45] <Left_Turn> ok thanks Outlaw_Star
[15:45] <linguini> trijntje: I'd never tried that.  I wonder -- will that shutdown the vm politely?
[15:46] <trijntje> linguini: you get a window that asks you how you want to shutdown
[15:46] <Outlaw_Star> left_turn: Positive, looks like 13.10 does have python 3.3
[15:46] <trijntje> you can just poweroff (force), save the machine state or sent the 'shutdown' signal, which is like pressing the power button I think
[15:46] <Left_Turn> oh ok thanks Outlaw_Star .. i appreciate it:)
[15:47] <Outlaw_Star> left_turn: my pleasure
[15:47] <bbteufel> but this is done using a mouse, but linguini says he wants to use just the keyboard
[15:47] <Outlaw_Star> linguini: whats the name of the virtual platform you are using
[15:47] <linguini> VirtualBox
[15:48] <Outlaw_Star> in terminal type ps -C virtualbox
[15:48] <Outlaw_Star> this will give you the process id for virtualbox
[15:48] <Outlaw_Star> once you have the process number type this
[15:48] <Outlaw_Star> sudo kill -9 <process number>
[15:48] <Outlaw_Star> this will force stop the process in its tracks
[15:48] <bbteufel> linguini: I think you want this ... http://www.howopensource.com/2011/06/how-to-use-virtualbox-in-terminal-commandline/
[15:49] <trijntje> Outlaw_Star: thats like pulling the power plug, and could corrupt the host
[15:49] <trijntje> *guest*
[15:49] <llutz> linguini: VBoxManage controlvm <VMname_here> acpipowerbutton    (or poweroff), no mouse, done
[15:49] <Outlaw_Star> yeah well... it'd make it stop lol
[15:49] <Outlaw_Star> llutz's method would probably work best
[15:50] <Outlaw_Star> much more graceful
[15:50] <bbteufel> outlaw_star : if he has more than one vms then it will shut down all of them
[15:50] <llutz> kill -9 without emergency-case = stupidity never dies
[15:50] <Outlaw_Star> bbteufel: well then he should have specified he had more than one running lol
[15:51] <Outlaw_Star> whatever, kill -9 is effective
[15:51] <linguini> Thanks all.  I guess the only thing I'm not sure about is whether "poweroff" is "harsh".  I'd like the VM to maintain a good state long term.
[15:52] <linguini> Perhaps acpipowerbutton is kinder than "poweroff"
[15:52] <iceroot> Outlaw_Star: kill -9 is always bad
[15:52] <MarkDavies> telnet www.google.pl 80. Then GET / HTTP/1.1. Why is nothing happening?
[15:52] <Outlaw_Star> whats so bad about kill -9
[15:52] <linguini> But is acpipowerbutton as kind as "gnome-session-quit --power-off --force" ?
[15:52] <trijntje> Outlaw_Star: you should be carefull when giving people advice, not suggest things that could damage their system/data
[15:53] <iceroot> Outlaw_Star: it will kill it directla without giving the program the chance to close wsockets, connections, remove lock files and so on
[15:53] <linguini> (I won't use kill -9)
[15:53] <iceroot> Outlaw_Star: when you have to use kill -9 because kill (-15) is not workng, the program you are using is buggy
[15:53] <llutz> Outlaw_Star: it kills processes without giving them a chance to shutdown cleanly, store open data, close files etc
[15:53] <iceroot> Outlaw_Star: so please dont suggest using kill -9. its always bad
[15:54] <cholsu> I would like to try ubuntu phone
[15:54] <iceroot> cholsu: #ubuntu-phone
[15:54] <llutz> Outlaw_Star: and if you don#t even know what it does, you shouldn't recommend it here
[15:54] <Outlaw_Star> i use it whenever i dont like how something is acting, and i'll probably keep doing it
[15:55] <iceroot> Outlaw_Star: do what you want but dont suggest it here
[15:55] <Outlaw_Star> i know what it does, but i fail to see why you guys are crapping your pants over the largly effective results
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavies: press enter twice
[15:55] <iceroot> Outlaw_Star: its bad and stupid as we told you already so stop suggesting it here
[15:56] <MarkDavies> heh, now it works, hitsujiTMO, why?
[15:56] <llutz> Outlaw_Star: possible data-loss never is "effective result"
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavies: because \n is just an input seperator. \n\n is the terminator
[15:57] <MarkDavies> aha, thanks
[16:05] <MarkDavies> what does "the same of the system" mean in terms of HTTP requests?
[16:07] <WeThePeople> markdavies, what are you doing?
[16:07] <MarkDavies> WeThePeople: I'm reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol
[16:07] <MarkDavies> "Methods PUT and DELETE are defined to be idempotent, meaning that multiple identical requests should have the same effect as a single request "
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> MarkDavies  try to stick to ubuntu support questions
[16:09] <WeThePeople> markdavies, http requests are "get" and "post"
[16:11] <Heymans34> hello all, can anybody help? OS doesn t launch
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> !details | Heymans34
[16:17] <Heymans34> Thank you.I have the latest version running. When I turn the pc on, after the first screen the os doesn t launch, and there's a "entry not supported" message on my screen. I can get in the bios and launch from a usb boot but can't start normal.
[16:20] <fpghost84> Hi, I was using a backport to get my Intel 7260 wifi card working on Ubuntu 12.04, which worked fine until last night, when it looks like an automated security update upgraded me to "3.8.0-35-generic" kernel. Now my wifi does not work at all and the iwlwifi module does not load on boot (nor does modprobe iwlwifie restore wifi). Does I need to apply the backport again or something?
[16:21] <guuyzor> does anyone here have radeon 8330?
[16:21] <nathan--> Hi.. I'm on 13.04, but Software Updater claims "The software on this computer is up to date.".  Shouldn't I see an option to update to 13.10?
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> guuyzor  that's a yes/no question, better ask your real question
[16:22] <DK-MODE> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[16:22] <trijntje> nathan--: you usually get the option to upgrade after installing the latest updates. If you want to upgrade now you can do alt+f2, and then type 'update-manager -d'
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> leave out the -d, it means development
[16:24] <nathan--> trijntje / MonkeyDust : Software updater claims "The software on this computer is up to date" .  No "Upgrade" button is on there
[16:24] <rhagu> hi I have a gpt partition (done with gdisk) on a block device. I later increased the size of the block device and ran gnu parted on it which asked me if I wanted to increase the size of the partition table and I did. There is one partition on it and I would like to inkrease its size to the maximum, is there a way to do this?
[16:24] <trijntje> nathan--: did you restart software updater with the command i gave? (update-manager -d)
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[16:25] <nathan--> trijntje: I did not put "-d" on there.. that shouldn't be needed, rigth?
[16:26] <trijntje> nathan--: try and find out ;)
[16:26] <nathan--> MonkeyDust: The problem is that sofware updater isn't presenting me with an Upgrade option
[16:26] <guuyzor> MonkeyDust: i want to know if ubuntu would work with my graphic card - radeon 8330
[16:27] <Heymans34> hello I have ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS installed. When I turn up the pc, after the bios etc the OS doesn' launch and I get a "entry not supportedé on the screen while the pc keeps on turning. I can get in the bios and start with a USB boot but only that.
[16:27] <nathan--> trijntje: Well, wouldn't that install the development version?  I'm guessing that's different than the sable one I'd like to install
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  i'm trying to remember wath the command is, for an upgrade to next release
[16:27] <trijntje> nathan--: just try and see, if it says it wants to upgrade to development (14.04) just click cancel
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  here it is: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:28] <nathan--> trijntje: Hmm.. so that DOES in fact present an option to upgrade to 13.10!  However, would that set any other packages to development?
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> guuyzor: 8330 is not supported by the radeon driver atm. it is supported by fglrx afaik
[16:28] <nathan--> trijntje: Or would that be the same outcome?
[16:29] <guuyzor> i see
[16:29] <guuyzor> thx
[16:29] <nathan--> MonkeyDust: I started that before, and it also seems to work -- but is there a downside to upgrading from within a terminal window using that command?
[16:29] <trijntje> nathan--: no, it will just upgrade to the 'next' release, in your case 13.10. If you run that command in 13.10, it will take you to 14.04, which is next from 13.10
[16:29] <feboo> hey, i'm using ubuntu 13.10 on a lenovo edge e330 and i've got a small problem with the internet connection. from time to time, very unreliably, i cannot connect to other machines (only sometimes can i ping other machines on my lan), meaning i cannot browse webpages. the networkmanager shows me that im still connected via wireless to my router. this also happenend at a friends house, so i dont think the router is the problem. the only thing
[16:30] <nathan--> trijntje: Huh!  Well sweet.. thank you!
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  it's boring, but no technical downsides, i guess -- backup and clean install would be faster, cleaner and more efficient, tho
[16:31] <forculus> is anyone available to help me with an installation problem?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> forculus  ask, don't ask to ask
[16:31] <jockey4her> i have 12.04LTS running in a VM. Gnome file explorer lets me copy a file over the network, but not directories. How come?
[16:32] <nathan--> trijntje: Hmm.. the pop-up says "Welcome to the Ubuntu 'Saucy Salamander' development release" -- you sure this is the same 13.10 release I'd get via other upgrade routes?
[16:32] <trijntje> nathan--: you're welcome
[16:32] <jockey4her> i tried zip and tar to trick it, but they only copy zero size tar and zip files. :/
[16:32] <forculus> I'm trying to install an older version of proftpd on ubuntu for learning purposes.  I have the source code and can compile, make, install.  The issue is with getting proftpd to run when the machine boots.
[16:33] <forculus> I've used the example script contained with the source and put it in the /etc/init.d/ path but it doesn't ever appear to work
[16:33] <trijntje> nathan--: that is weird, can you go to software & updates and set the server to 'main' instead of the local mirror?
[16:33] <trijntje> don't start the upgrade yet
[16:35] <nathan--> trijntje: Hmm.. I'm not seeing a local mirror option (or a 'main' one, either)
[16:36] <nashant> Hey guys. I'm having some issues with the UI locking up completely occasionally, and I have to force a shutdown. When it starts to show severe lagging I've noticed that the iowait is 50% +. How do I find out what the problem is?
[16:37] <nathan--> trijntje: I did change the from "US Regional" to "Main" (if that's the same thing?)  It's been "Checking for updates" for a couple of mins now..
[16:38] <nathan--> trijntje: But same outcome -- "The softwar on this computer is up to date"
[16:38] <trijntje> nathan--: can you see which url it is chekcing? It should be packages.ubuntu.com
[16:38] <Arctico_SPA> Hi :)
[16:38] <basiclaser> Is there any good free video editing software for linux??
[16:38] <trijntje> !openshot
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> basiclaser  openshot, pitivi
[16:39] <jhutchins> basiclaser: avidemux
[16:39] <trijntje> nathan--: I have to go now, its a bit weird that it claims 13.10 is a development relaese, maybe someone else here knows what could cause that
[16:39] <trijntje> good luck!
[16:39] <nathan--> trijntje: Is there a downside to upgrading via do-release-upgrade in terminal?
[16:40] <jhutchins> nashant: Make sure smartmontools is installed and enabled and start checking the logs.  You may be loosing a hard disk.
[16:41] <nashant> jhutchins: smartmontools is installed and enabled. I've run a short test, no issues. Part way through running a long test. But the logs don't say anything
[16:41] <jhutchins> nathan--: No, and several advantages.  The console tools are much lighter on the system.
[16:41] <apb1963> so I'm thinking about getting an SSD.  Is there anything important I need to know?  Like do I need to worry about drivers or anything else?
[16:41] <nashant> It does feel like the disk is getting pretty hot though
[16:42] <jhutchins> nashant: Make sure monitoring is enabled, and check around the time you see a lock-up.
[16:42] <jhutchins> nashant: The tests are less important than long term trends.
[16:43] <jhutchins> apb1963: No problems with drivers, and "wear" is getting to be less of an issue.  Have a plan for regular backups and read some of the on-line articles about optimizing the system for SSD.
[16:43] <nathan--> jhutchins: So for a desktop environment, upgrading via launching a terminal, and doing "sudo do-release-upgrade" should be okay?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  the terminal tends to be faster and cleaner than any GUI
[16:43] <nashant> jhutchins: There's nothing in the smart error log at all. Is there another log I should be checking?
[16:43] <jhutchins> nashant: Yes, that's the preferred method.
[16:43] <apb1963> jhutchins: any links you can suggest in particular?
[16:45] <nathan--> MonkeyDust: Any parameters I need to specify?  'help' mentions a 'p to update to $distro-proposed, and --mode to specify desktop or server
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  no, just sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:46] <sgo11> hi, I just install lxde. how to change lxde logo icon in the panel? and lxde image in the shutdown menu? thanks.
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> nashant: can you pastebin the output of: smartctl --all /dev/sda                                replacing /dev/sda with the block device for that drive
[16:47] <jhutchins> nashant: The package should have started smartd and enabled monitoring on the disk, you might want to verify that.
[16:48] <forculus> I'm having issues installing proftpd from source on ubuntu, can someone please help?
[16:49] <DwarfDefender> is there a directory i can put app_i_want_to_be_global into and i will be able to call app_i_want_to_be_global from any location?
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> DwarfDefender  /usr/bin/ or /usr/sbin/
[16:50] <llutz> DwarfDefender: echo $PATH    shows you a list of pathes for that, use /usr/local/bin
[16:50] <nathan--> So one weird observation.. if I run "do-release-upgrade -c" the system says "No new release found".  If I do "sudo do-release-upgrade -c" it says 13.10 is available.
[16:51] <nathan--> MonkeyDust: Could that indicate anything as to why my Software Updater wasn't seeing the new release?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  asking too many questions before you start, slows down the procedure
[16:51] <sgo11> ok. I think I found them. they are under /usr/share/lxde/images/
[16:52] <nathan--> MonkeyDust: lol.. true.. for some reason I'm just more comfortable with the warm/fuzzy UI option (never updated via terminal)
[16:52] <jhutchins> nashant: There are a bunch of good articles available about smartmontools on ubuntu.  I would suggest that you at least scan a few.
[16:53] <streulma> hello, may I ask a question?
[16:54] <streulma> I figured something out: Installed Ubuntu 13.04 in BIOS mode on Macbook Pro 5-2. Can't properly do a shutdown, and can only boot normal with nomodeset.
[16:54] <jhutchins> nashant: Modern hard drive isolate the system from physical and logical errors on the drive.  They attempt to correct or compensate for those errors, and that can make an I/O operation hang.  When the delay becomes noticible by a human, it's an indication that the errors are reaching the end of the controll components to handle it.
[16:55] <jhutchins> nashant: The tests won't show this, although they may show significant error counts or logs.
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> nathan--  the terminal has more advantages, it just doenst *look* very nice
[16:55] <DrkKnight_06> has anyone else encountered the battery not present issue
[16:56] <jhutchins> DrkKnight_06: Yes, I have that issue with my TV remote all the time.
[16:57] <jhutchins> streulma: Please go ahead and ask your question.
[16:57] <sere> hello all
[16:58] <streulma> jhutchins: I asked... I figured something out: Installed Ubuntu 13.04 in BIOS mode on Macbook Pro 5-2. Can't properly do a shutdown, and can only boot normal with nomodeset.
[16:59] <jhutchins> streulma: That's not a question.
[16:59] <jhutchins> I'm surprized that ubuntu doesn't seem to have a mac wiki.
[17:00] <jhutchins> Ah, it does.
[17:00] <jhutchins> streulma:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[17:02] <acovrig> I am trying to capture video from a v4l compatible USB capture (works on my desktop) but on my laptop I get a green video with a smudge of real video at the top, any ideas?
[17:04] <techinstein> hi
[17:09] <jhutchins> acovrig: It's a pretty good bet the two systems have different GPU chipsets.  Is the resolution different?
[17:09] <jhutchins> acovrig: When you caputre video on A, does it play back correctly on B?
[17:09] <acovrig> jhutchins: I am pulling video in, but pushing it out
[17:09] <ichery> i receive the following message on my Kubuntu box  after loggin in safe mode and  unable to access the desktop since it happened: 'Ubhid couldn't find an input endpoint'  - any help wld be appreciated.
[17:10] <jhutchins> ichery: RIght, safe mode is no GUI.  Why did you boot to safe mode?
[17:11] <acovrig> jhutchins: I don't see why it wouldn't, wouldn't that be a video encoding issue, ffmpeg worked just fine to encode on my desktop...
[17:11] <ichery> becz i the Desktop will not load in regular mode
[17:11] <ichery> also i get another error about Kmix Bus error.
[17:13] <ichery> Is the system Hosed, how can i repair it?
[17:13] <acovrig> the thing I find iterating is that both systems are running 14.04 installed close to the same time.
[17:15] <nathan--> If I'm running 'do-release-upgrade' in the terminal, should I have every other program closed?
[17:15] <daftykins> it'd be nice to, yes
[17:19] <jhutchins> acovrig: One of these things is not like the other.
[17:20] <acovrig> yes, but what :D
[17:20] <jhutchins> acovrig: How are we supposed to know?
[17:21] <acovrig> I don't know, the systems are the same as far as I know, I compiled ffmpeg the exact same way and the systems are running the same version.
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> acovrig  mind: 14.04 supporrt in #ubuntu+1 until final release in april
[17:21] <microm> what is the right forum to upload a mini how to on installing the latest Canon printer drivers? I spent about 10 hours figuring it all out, and I'd like to give back.
[17:22] <acovrig> MonkeyDust: good to know, thanks
[17:24] <acovrig> on second thought, apt-get update reports a large number of packages to update on my laptop, so we'll see in ~15-20min when it gets done what happens.
[17:34] <acovrig> Is there a reliable way to determine if a CD tray is open or closed? (fdisk -l /dev/sr0 automatically brings the tray in)
[17:36] <microm> how do I post a new thread on the ubuntu forums? I am logged in, but where is the button to post?
[17:38] <microm> nv, got it.
[17:49] <Hydr0p0nX> is there any harm in rolling the 12.04.3 kernel back to 3.2.x ? there are some issues with my hardware in 3.8 and i'd rather not have to re-install
[17:52] <michael__> hello
[17:52] <iceroot> Hydr0p0nX: thats not a problem, because in 12.04 there are 3.2, 3.5 and 3.8 in the repos (metapackage should be installed)
[17:52] <Hydr0p0nX> thanks
[17:53] <iceroot> Hydr0p0nX: linux-image-generic should be 3.2, the others have lts-quantal and lts-raring in there name as well
[17:53] <michael__> may i ask some questions as a linux beginner ? or is this the wrong place ?
[17:53] <iceroot> michael__: this channel is for all kind of ubuntu related technical support
[17:53] <michael__> counts lubuntu also as ubuntu ?
[17:54] <iceroot> michael__: yes but lubuntu has also an own channel
[17:54] <iceroot> #lubuntu
[17:54] <michael__> ok.. then i try #lubuntu
[17:55] <iceroot> michael__: lubuntu, ubuntu and xubuntu are offical ubuntu versions, they all belong to the ubuntu familie from canocial
[17:58] <qin> michael__: What drivers do you want to install?
[17:59] <michael__> samsung-backlight
[17:59] <qin> from PPA, right?
[17:59] <michael__> there are some Fn-keys which don't work..
[17:59] <michael__> yes, voria ppa
[18:02] <michael__> i used linux some years ago at the university but i forgot nearly everything.. so i have no idea now
[18:02] <bpeak> In the shutdown command you can use the -P parameter to wait for X minutes before going to sleep, can units of time be used with this argument? Such as 1m (for 1 minute), 40s (for 40 seconds), and so on
[18:02] <qin> michael__: what version? https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa/+packages download just fine, have you added repository?
[18:03] <michael__> i added it with "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:voria/ppa"
[18:03] <qin> michael__: and sudo apt-get update ?
[18:04] <michael__> i did after
[18:04] <michael__> "sudo apt-get upgrade" then
[18:05] <g1> My memory is almost 99% used,what is the best graphical window environment for me to use instead of gnome?
[18:05] <qin> michael__: confused, did you only "upgrade" or also "update"?
[18:05] <michael__> both
[18:05] <michael__> update, then upgrade
[18:05] <michael__> sorry, i am not native english
[18:06] <qin> well, while updating, had ppa timed out.
[18:06] <g1> Hi,My memory is almost 99% ,how to change to a lower memory used  graphical window environment instead of gnome?
[18:06] <vlouvet> gl: lxde or xfce
[18:07] <pepito> Hey, What's up guy ? Fine ? I have a question : do you think that use a VPN or Proxy between you and Tor is better for anonymous ? (About the difficulty to now who are you ...) Thanks :)
[18:07] <qin> g1: can you pastebin output of: free; command?
[18:08] <vlouvet> gl : there is a guide here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[18:08] <g1> Thanks!
[18:08] <helpcrypto> hi all
[18:08] <[[a]> Hello everyone, Would anyone please show me how to install OpenSSH, I forwarded 22 port in my router TP LINK, but whenever I scan my IP address, there is no 22 port open. Please
[18:08] <michael__> after trying to install i get "E: Unable to locate package samsung-backlight"
[18:08] <helpcrypto> any of you could help me / give me a channel where I could ask about dvd rip?
[18:09] <Shutterstrom> Hello! I'm using ubuntu server 13.10 and have MINIDLNA installed using apt-get install minidlna. This is an older version and therefore I downloaded the minidlna-1.1.1.tar.gz file. But how do I install the later version over the older version? I want to replace the old version with this one. How do I know what files I need to replace and where they are?
[18:10] <jhutchins> Shutterstrom: You stick with packages built for ubuntu.
[18:10] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: you don't do that
[18:10] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: you should use the ubuntu packages
[18:10] <qin> michael__: dont you want to download and instal apropirate package from link I haveposted?
[18:10] <michael__> wait.. i try
[18:11] <vlouvet> [[a],  is there any output of sudo netstat -tupan | grep ssh
[18:11] <researcher123> can someone help install tar.gz
[18:11] <ikonia> researcher123: what do you want to install ?
[18:12] <helpcrypto> any of you could help me / tellgive me a channel where I could ask about dvd rip?
[18:12] <michael__> which file i need? sorry i am a windows user and don't know the suffixes.. *.dsc, *.tar.gz or *.deb ?
[18:12] <Shutterstrom> ikonia: jhutchins: The version for ubuntu is some years old. Is there a way to get the latest version? Or is there a reason why the minidlna version is so old with ubuntu?
[18:12] <[[a]>     vlouvet, tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      4496/sshd
[18:12] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: stable/supported version
[18:12] <researcher123> ikonia: I want to install dotproject-2.1.8.tar.gz
[18:12] <vlouvet> researcher123, tar.gz is not an auto executable archive like zip, it is only a way to compress files
[18:12] <glitsj16> bpeak: according to "man shutdown" the valid time formats are 'now' (immediately), +m (minutes) and hh:mm (24h format) .. nothing there for seconds support
[18:12] <ikonia> researcher123: is there not a dotproject package in the repos
[18:13] <researcher123> ikonia: dont know
[18:13] <pepito> up guys
[18:13] <[[a]> vlouvet, tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      4496/sshd
[18:13] <pepito> please
[18:13] <vlouvet> [[a],  try doing  ssh username@localhost on the computer running sshd
[18:13] <ikonia> researcher123: check
[18:13] <[[a]> ok
[18:13] <vlouvet> [[a],  replace username with your username
[18:13] <researcher123> ikonia: its not there.checked
[18:14] <ikonia> researcher123: you just said "don't know"
[18:14] <researcher123> ikonia: I just checked
[18:14] <[[a]> vlouvet, Please contact your system administrator.
[18:14] <[[a]> Add correct host key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
[18:14] <[[a]> Offending ECDSA key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:1 remove with: ssh-keygen -f "/root/.ssh/known_hosts" -R localhost
[18:14] <[[a]> ECDSA host key for localhost has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[18:14] <ikonia> researcher123: how did you check ?
[18:14] <ikonia> [[a]: you should not be ssh'ing as root
[18:15] <ikonia> [[a]: the root account is locked on ubuntu
[18:15] <[[a]> ok
[18:15] <researcher123> ikonia: launched Software center then searched
[18:15] <ikonia> researcher123: wow - your machine is very quick to launch and search the repos in 8 seconds
[18:15] <[[a]> Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts.
[18:15] <Shutterstrom> ikonia: So even for personal use it's not recomended to use newer versions. It's a bit strange to not have software updated (beeing used to windows applications)
[18:16] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: it's not strange at all
[18:16] <vlouvet> [[a],  that sounds normal
[18:16] <Shutterstrom> ikonia: :-) to me it is.
[18:16] <researcher123> ikonia: not really fast
[18:16] <vlouvet> ikonia,  can you ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>he is doing same thing
[18:17] <ikonia> vlouvet: pm me the nickname and message he sent
[18:17] <[[a]> vlouvet, why when I scan the <IP_ADDRESS> of my router, i cant see the ssh 22 open
[18:17] <lesshaste> when I do sudo pip install ortools  I get ortools-1.3030.win32.zip which isn't even listed at https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ortools#downloads
[18:17] <ikonia> lesshaste: pip is not advised
[18:17] <ikonia> lesshaste: use the ubuntu package manager
[18:17] <vlouvet> [[a],  you are scanning from inside the lan?
[18:17] <ikonia> researcher123: untar the package and read the README and INSTALL files
[18:18] <[[a]> yes
[18:18] <michael__> how could i install this package ?
[18:18] <helpcrypto> ...any of you have some knowledge about dvd rip?...i noticed my original DVD NTSC has each chapter twice...?
[18:18] <[[a]> vlouvet, yes I am scanning from inside the lan
[18:18] <qin> michael__: dpkg -i nameof.deb
[18:19] <michael__> ah, so i need the .deb file ?
[18:19] <Shutterstrom> But how do I install the later version over the older version? I want to replace the old version with this one. How do I know what files I need to replace and where they are?
[18:19] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: you don't
[18:19] <vlouvet> [[a],  it is a routing problem i believe you need to have an exterior computer scan the external router IP
[18:19] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: apologies, I thought I'd made that clear
[18:20] <bpeak> glitsj16: Thank you
[18:20] <dixoncx> Hi, how can i monitor my total network usage ? ie., network usage counter. for each ddmmyy,  XX GB.
[18:20] <nadir92> hey
[18:20] <nadir92> :)
[18:20] <Calinou> dixoncx, iftop
[18:20] <michael__> as linux beginner... can i say that .deb files are like .exe files in windows? or is this completely wrong ?
[18:20] <Shutterstrom> ikonia: but if I want to install it over the current version. is that impossible or as you say just "not recomended".
[18:21] <pepito>                                                                                Nobody to help me .... :(
[18:21] <vlouvet> dixoncx, i like ntop-ng but its a bit heavy for older computers
[18:21] <nadir92> What do you need ?
[18:21] <[[a]> vlouvet, I open a port in NAT - Virtual Servers (in my ROUTER), and I installed OpenSSH, can I connect from a virtualbox using PuTTY? can I see who is trying to connect to my ssh?
[18:21] <helpcrypto> hi pepito, what u need?
[18:21] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: why do you want it ?
[18:22] <pepito> helpcrypto, thanks : do you think that use a VPN or Proxy between you and Tor is better for anonymous ? (About the difficulty to now who are you ...)
[18:22] <raub> michael__: they are more like .cab files
[18:22] <pepito> µknow
[18:22] <Shutterstrom> ikonia: the newer versions have some bugfixes and new functions that I'm really interested in.
[18:22] <helpcrypto> pepito, Tor is not #ubuntu related, so probably this is not the best place to ask. Anyhow, let me answer you with my opinion.
[18:22] <michael__> if the package is installed.. do i need a restart = cause the fn-keys still dont work
[18:23] <michael__> ?
[18:23] <[[a]> vlouvet, ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[18:23] <raub> [[a]: who is doing the vpn?
[18:23] <[[a]> vlouvet, ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused (ROUTER)
[18:23] <[[a]> raub, me
[18:23] <vlouvet> [[a], it depends on the set up of the virtualmachine. it would work very easy if you are doing network passthrough in virtualbox but if you have a special routing process then it gets complicated
[18:23] <helpcrypto> Tor stablish a secure communication from you to destination routing among many proxies, and the information sent is already ciphered...wo, why you would need/want a VPN?
[18:23] <raub> michael__: depends on package. A lot of them better not
[18:23] <pepito> helpcrypto, yeah i know but i'm really interested about your opinion ;)
[18:24] <helpcrypto> IMHO you should care much more about DNS...
[18:24] <Shutterstrom> ikonia: Also, who manages the packages for Ubuntu if there are newer versions?
[18:24] <michael__> my screen is so dark.. i cant turn it brighter with the fn keys.. dunno if i need to setup something
[18:24] <helpcrypto> ...any of you have some knowledge about dvd rip?...i noticed my original DVD NTSC has each chapter twice...?
[18:24] <raub> helpcrypto: I think he meant to make the connection between open and tor networks a bit harder to track. There is some decent info on the tor site about that, pepito
[18:25] <dixoncx> Calinou, vlouvet : I am using nethogs now. Its showing network stat per process. But i just want make a log file with total network usage per session in my ppp(mobile broadband connection). Any insight ?
[18:25] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: which bug fixes ?
[18:25] <Phoebus> Hey guys, anyone have experience with TP-LINK wn822n - used to be auto-detected and now no more. Or point me to a good guide. Googled but got riff raff, thanks!
[18:25] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: actually - you want to do it, go for it, it will wreck your system
[18:25] <pepito> raub, yep i read it, and on onion site too. But that's difficult to have a great solution ...
[18:25] <raub> [[a]: I just have sshd in each vm and then can connect to it either using straight iptables port forwarding on having an intermendiate server
[18:26] <ikonia> Shutterstrom: it's complex process that requires an advanced level of knowledge to do it "correctly" so if you feel that's you, go for it
[18:26] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: That depends. Packages which are in "main" usually see care by canonical employees, packages in "universe" are community maintained. Which in almost all cases means Ubuntu waits for DEbian to update the package.
[18:26] <[[a]> raub, would you please invite me in a private window and work this thing together, I mean I need you show me exactly how to install OpenSSH ? Please Help me Man !
[18:27] <aberrant> hi all
[18:27] <michael__> i try to restart
[18:27] <aberrant> is there a way to get disk free space stats using procfs?
[18:27] <pepito> raub, helpcrypto : If you doing something on your open firefox tor your IP is mask but if you doing something in your terminal are you masked ?
[18:27] <helpcrypto> pepito: depends on how u setup tor
[18:28] <helpcrypto> on my mobile i use orbot and i tor everything
[18:28] <helpcrypto> if u use tor as a browser/plugin, only the browser will be anonimized
[18:28] <Shutterstrom> ikonia: I dont meen to sound ignorant but why will it wreck my system? What can go wrong?
[18:30] <ernetas> One of my Ubuntu servers are not accepting RSA/DSA keys for SSH connection.
[18:30] <ernetas> What could be the problem?
[18:30] <Shutterstrom> Ampelbein: Thank you for that info! (as you probobly can tell I'm quite new to this but I'm looking to learn as much as possible)
[18:30] <pepito> helpcrypto, so the fact is to not just use torbroswer like a plugin ? only that
[18:30] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: Installing files outside of the package management system (dpkg/apt) can lead to inconsitencies, which can cause problems upon upgrades. You almost always want to create a Debian package with the newer version to have a way to safely remove it.
[18:30] <helpcrypto> pepito: depends on what u want...
[18:30] <bopnet> boa tarde galera
[18:31] <helpcrypto> if you want to proxy everything, you should forward everything ;)
[18:31] <bopnet> preciso saber se existe algum programa de broadcast para o ubuntu
[18:31] <helpcrypto> ...any of you have some knowledge about dvd rip?...i noticed my original DVD NTSC has each chapter twice...?
[18:31] <ernetas> https://gist.github.com/ernetas/8c04a0c22438c8d49e0f/raw/20662ae4ee1ee8447a99354b019a15b480e12315/gistfile1.txt - here's stdout of ssh -vv
[18:31] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: Unfortunately creating a package can be rather complex, http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ is the packaging guide if you are interested.
[18:31] <michael__> i am back from reboot.. but it still dont work..  i dont know what i can do to activate the fn-keys for the screen backlight :(
[18:31] <michael__> *doenst
[18:31] <michael__> *doesnt
[18:31] <bopnet> eu usei o wirecast no win, agora estou usando o ubuntu
[18:31] <ding> ernetas, have you check /var/log/auth.log ?
[18:31] <Shutterstrom> Ampelbein: Thanks. That's more informative then "it will break your system" :-)
[18:31] <ding> * checked
[18:32] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: In case you have questions about general packaging, #ubuntu-packaging here on freenode can provide some help.
[18:32] <levo> what's the best idea to free up some space on my system folder? it has got only 5mb free
[18:32] <pepito> helpcrypto, how to use tor not just like a plugin ?
[18:32] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: There's also the mailing list https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ that can be used for general packaging questions.
[18:33] <Shutterstrom> Ampelbein: Thank you for your help. I really appreciate this irc function!
[18:33] <ernetas> ding, yes, nothing useful, only output related to canceling connection or loging in with password:  https://gist.github.com/ernetas/b9d9f8a82ace14eac770/raw/e30bac26e0a47c75fe45a6033892c290487e1045/gistfile1.txt
[18:33] <helpcrypto> pepito look on tor site
[18:33] <ernetas> Wow.
[18:33] <ernetas> Wait.
[18:34] <ernetas> What's in second column of auth.log?
[18:34] <ernetas> What kind of username is that?
[18:34] <bopnet> i need help
[18:34] <ernetas> Why does it say "gitlab" in auth.log when it's "dev" in hostname file?
[18:35] <WeThePeople> command not found using lampp " sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start " use to work fine, now command not found. any ideas
[18:35] <michael__> can no one help me? :-/
[18:35] <bopnet> i use software wirecas in windows, but now i use linux and need software for broadcast
[18:35] <Shutterstrom> Ampelbein: So I guess I'm "stuck" with what I've got.. :-) The packages functionality for ubuntu / debian is great, but this must be one of the downside if the package is not updated and there are newer versions out.
[18:35] <ding> ernetas, I think that's the hostname, but what does the hostname command report ?
[18:35] <pepito> helpcrypto, I don't find the good doc I think..
[18:35] <ernetas> ding, dev.
[18:35] <ernetas> That's the weird thing.
[18:36] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: Yes, the Debian maintainer seems absent unfortunately, see debian bug 711234
[18:36] <WeThePeople> michael__, is your screen to dim and your brightness function wont work?
[18:36] <SaberX01> aberrant, after some digging, look at: stract df and grep 'sda' /proc/partitions"
[18:36] <SaberX01> *strace df
[18:36] <michael__> WeThePeople, yes
[18:37] <WeThePeople> michael__, what distro you using
[18:37] <streulma> why I can boot my system only with nomodeset?
[18:38] <michael__> WeThePeople, lubuntu 13.10, do you mean that ?
[18:38] <WeThePeople> yes
[18:38] <aberrant> SaberX01: thanks. I've also discovered python-psutils
[18:38] <OerHeks> streulma, because of your videocard, logically
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> streulma  because nomodeset was the somution to your issue
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> solution*
[18:39] <Bashing-om> levo: try: sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean. If addition assis is needed, post to basbin terminal codes df -h , df -i .
[18:39] <vlouvet> michael__,  you said the ppa timed out or it do you mind posting the results of apt-get update in a private session?
[18:39] <streulma> MonkeyDust: I have dual nvidia, if I boot system normally, it freezes
[18:39] <PebkacJones> bonjour
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> streulma  and nomoideset solves that problem?
[18:40] <WeThePeople> michael__, read carefully>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2185305
[18:40] <WeThePeople> i skimmed it
[18:40] <charly_> hello i have a question regarding ubuntu installation/bit version
[18:40] <streulma> MonkeyDust: yes it boot with nouveau enabled, but that is a bit slow to use...
[18:40] <vlouvet> michael__, sorry but read the #4th post of this link http://www.voria.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1226
[18:41] <SaberX01> aberrant, Yeah, those are all like htop, iostat etc, they just pulled them all together in on package it looks like.
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> streulma  it's a slow boot or no boot
[18:41] <Siecje> I put an iso on a USB drive with unetbootin and when I boot off the USB Drive I get to a blue screen that says unetbootin and a menu with the only option being default, but nothing happens when I select it
[18:41] <charly_> i have installed a fresh copy of 64 bit ubuntu on a fresh hd. however my settings/details read os=32
[18:41] <michael__> WeThePeople, so i should delete 13.10 and install 13.04 ?
[18:41] <urataco> charly_: are you sure you computer is 32 bit
[18:41] <urataco> err 64 bit
[18:42] <WeThePeople> michael__, no maybe you could extrapolate from 13.04 directions
[18:42] <charly_> i dont know. but im utilizing ubuntu as we speak, no problem
[18:42] <streulma> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu is slow, the windows are slow opened, graphics running slow, I'm on a superfast SSD :)
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> michael__  if you choose a lower release, then use 12.04 LTS
[18:42] <charly_> i have less than 2 g ram if that declares bit rate....
[18:43] <urataco> I have a desktop I use for testing that had a chipset component that was 32 bit only, so while the cpu supported 64bit, the chipset was forced to use 32 bit OSes
[18:43] <michael__> WeThePeople, i installed lubuntu yesterday and have no data on it.. the first thing i wanted was installing drivers.. so it wouldnt be a problem to format my hdd and install 13.04 if this solves the problem
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> streulma  i'm not familiar with nvidia or dual screen, surely somene else can help better
[18:43] <michael__> lubuntu has no LTS
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> michael__  ok, wasnt aware
[18:43] <michael__> MonkeyDust, lubuntu has no LTS
[18:43] <WeThePeople> michael__, what brand computer do you have
[18:43] <michael__> WeThePeople, Samsung NF110
[18:44] <michael__> it is a netbook.. that is why i want lubuntu..
[18:44] <michael__> weak hardware
[18:44] <Shutterstrom> Ampelbein: Alright! Thanks. Let's just keep the fingers crossed then.
[18:44] <charly_> does ram declare bit (under 2g 32/over 64?)
[18:44] <streulma> not dualscreen MonkeyDust, but I have 2 video cards, not Intel and Nvidia, but Nvidia 9400M 256MB and Nvidia 9600M 512MB
[18:46] <WeThePeople> michael__, here is some ppa packages for ya
[18:46] <Shutterstrom> Ampelbein: But if Ubuntu is so dependent on their packages, is it better to not use packages for software that have frequent upgrades, or even to look for another dist then Ubuntu if I want to install this type of software.
[18:46] <charly_> lol, help. why does my 64 bit ubuntu installation read settings/details os=32
[18:47] <mehdi> is there an online viewable view of the ubuntu source code? or must i download a copy?
[18:47] <WeThePeople> michael__, scroll through this website>>> https://getsatisfaction.com/jolicloud/topics/samsung_n140_brightness_and_wifi_hotkeys_not_working
[18:47] <WeThePeople> michael__, ppas>>> https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa
[18:47] <WeThePeople> for the backlight
[18:47] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: With the right technical knowledge, you can make your own packages (based on the maintainer's work) and still have all the advantages that the package manager provides.
[18:48] <WeThePeople> if you decide to install diff. distro
[18:48] <michael__> WeThePeople, i installed this.. but it doesnt work
[18:48] <bekks> mehdi: There is nothing like "the source code of ubuntu". It consists of thousands of packages, each with its own source code. And you can download the source for every package if you want.
[18:48] <mehdi> kernel source in particular
[18:48] <mehdi> im going to download it in any case
[18:49] <Ampelbein> Shutterstrom: And the basic problem wouldn't go away with chosing a different distribution: You'd still wait for the responsible maintainer to provide an update.
[18:49] <WeThePeople> michael__, mine isnt working either and im on 12.04.2 x64
[18:50] <michael__> WeThePeople, dunno.. i need the fn keys
[18:50] <perhapstired> hello, I have a question- when I do sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/java in ubuntu, and press enter, and it just jumps onto a new line ready for me to write something else, almost as if nothing actually happened, did nothing actually happen or did I create a directory like I intended? Is it ok if I wasn't notified that a directory was actually created?
[18:50] <mehdi> oh, it looks like kernel.org has viewable online source
[18:50] <mehdi> :D
[18:50] <Shutterstrom> Ampelbein: I kind of guessed that regarding different distribuition, but I had to ask :-) Once again. thanks for the help I'll try looking into building my own package. have a great evening where ever you are.
[18:51] <perhapstired> Where is the /usr directory in ubuntu? I can't find it
[18:52] <bekks> perhapstired: In /usr - like in every other linux.
[18:52] <OerHeks> perhapstired, you can check if the folder is created with the 'ls'  = list function >> sudo ls /usr/local/
[18:52] <perhapstired> bekks: yes sorry, thanks
[18:52] <perhapstired> thanks oerneks
[18:52] <michael__> has no one an idea how to activate samsung-backlight on samsung nf110 with lubuntu 13.10 ?
[18:53] <OerHeks> michael__, as the Voria ppa does not have saucy candidates, you are stuck .
[18:53] <Bashing-om> perhapstired: normal behaviour, the system doing what it is told -> no complaints, no errors = no output.
[18:54] <felon> and knowone gives a fuck about a samsung blacklight
[18:54] <michael__> OerHeks, why i need saucy?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> felon  watch your language
[18:54] <qnebra> Welcome
[18:54] <OerHeks> michael__, you are on saucy 13.10 now
[18:54] <urataco> felon what about my HP lavalamp
[18:55] <felon> i like lavalamps
[18:55] <vlouvet> michael__, saucy is the codename for 13.10
[18:55] <michael__> what could i do to use quantal, precise or something like that ?
[18:55] <OerHeks> michael__, you might want to go back to 12.04 lts until the ppa maintainer solves his issues
[18:55] <vlouvet> download and burn to a cd and reinstall over the old installation
[18:56] <michael__> OerHeks, but lubuntu doesnt support lts.. and ubuntu is to big for my netbook
[18:56] <vlouvet> michael__, i think you should try 13.04 lubuntu and see if that works if not go back one further
[18:57] <michael__> which version is quantal ?
[18:57] <Siecje> 13.04 is out?
[18:57] <SaberX01> 13.04 is very near EOF .. 13.10 is going out in April I think, the best option is 12.04, and wait for the 14.04 release.
[18:58] <Siecje> oh right 12.04 nvm
[18:58] <Siecje> 13.04*
[18:58] <Spyderp> Hi guys, just installed Ubuntu 13.10 x64 on native hardware (amd processor, ati graphics 7870) it istalls fine but when I boot up it gets past the loading screen and then goes black and reboots, no error message etc, I can run in compatibility mode and it gives a message about using software to compose the screen, so I guess it's a graphics problem, but how do I solve it please? Thank you
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> Siecje  14.04 wil be out in april
[18:58] <vlouvet> michael__, i thought there was 13.04 but instead i think oerheks is right 12.10 is best for now http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[18:58] <OerHeks> michael__, look at the ppa, raring has no candidates, quantal does
[18:59] <daftykins> Spyderp: hi there, it sounds like your AMD graphics card is causing some fun. How are you booting into this compatibility mode exactly?
[18:59] <SaberX01> If you want to see your systems details: ubuntu-support-status  .. in term.
[18:59] <Spyderp> the only way I can boot into compatibility mode is with the live cd and choosing that option at boot
[18:59] <michael__> OerHeks, i am new with linux.. which distribution i need for quantal ?
[19:00] <vlouvet> michael__,  i gave you the link its http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[19:00] <usi> hi
[19:00] <michael__> ah, so i try to install lubuntu 12.10
[19:00] <felon> high
[19:00] <usi> i need help
[19:00] <felon> with ?
[19:00] <michael__> so, 13.04 is raring, 13.10 is saucy, 12.04 is precise ?
[19:01] <SaberX01> 12.10 near EOF also .
[19:01] <vlouvet> michael__, i think so wikipedia may know
[19:01] <usi> im trying to crack wpa wep but cant work i need guide
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> michael__  it's alphapbetic, P Q R S
[19:01] <vlouvet> SaberX01, its his best option for optimal samsung compatibility right now
[19:01] <SaberX01> !details | usi
[19:01] <ander_> hey i was wondering  if any could help me out i
[19:01] <felon> usi : aircrack-ng.org
[19:02] <vlouvet> usi, this may not be the right place to ask for questions
[19:02] <felon> mass tutorials
[19:02] <vlouvet> usi, regarding cracking wep*
[19:02] <SaberX01> vlouvet, understand just saying, they wont be updating the repos at all soon.
[19:02] <michael__> what is EOF in this context? i only know this as "end of file"
[19:02] <usi> but i cant understand dictionari
[19:02] <ander_> i'm have a issuse after i updated to 13.1o with my usb card reader
[19:02] <bjorne> end of file Michael
[19:02] <usi> ye vlouvet
[19:02] <SaberX01> EOF = End of Life
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> !eol
[19:02] <usi> im new on ubuntu
[19:02] <vlouvet> michael__,  end of life for the product where the devs no longer patch
[19:02] <SaberX01> aka, end of Support for that particular Distro
[19:03] <michael__> yeah but if 12.10 is eof.. and 13.04 wont be supported for my netbook.. what should i do?
[19:03] <daftykins> Spyderp: give this a try...
[19:04] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Spyderp
[19:04] <Spyderp> ok thank you
[19:04] <SaberX01> michael__, have a looky here: http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[19:04] <Spyderp> thanks very much I'll try that now
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> michael__  then ubuntu may not be fit for your netbook, consider using puppy or so
[19:05] <ander_> after i updated to 13.10  my usb card reader  stop being seen .. nothing shows up under lsusb ... what could i try?
[19:05] <felon> usi : its simple, install build-essential, install libssl-dev, install aircrack-ng, install backports, start playing :)
[19:05] <michael__> there has to be a way to use ubuntu on it..
[19:05] <WeThePeople> xampp not working with " sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start " any ideas. was working earlier.
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> michael__  or use the !mini installation
[19:05] <michael__> !mini ?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> !mini
[19:06] <SaberX01> aircrack-ng not in the repos
[19:06] <felon> d/l source
[19:07] <felon> or apt-get install aircrack-ng, might work
[19:07] <SaberX01> Next queston will be how does he get rid of all that stuf he installs that doesn't work .. lol
[19:07] <villas> I need help to eject a USB device from my computer, as it doesn't give me the option to eject it.
[19:07] <SaberX01> apt-cache search aircrack-ng pulls NIL
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !find aircrack
[19:08] <felon> then d/l source man
[19:08] <SaberX01> I dont need it .. lol ...
[19:08] <felon> i dont either
[19:09] <SaberX01> but, it's not actualyl simple.
[19:09] <SaberX01> *actually.
[19:09] <ander_> after i updated to 13.10  my usb card reader  stop being seen .. nothing shows up under lsusb ... what could i try?
[19:09] <felon> yes it is
[19:09] <felon> its as simple as i said it
[19:09] <SaberX01> if you say so.
[19:10] <FutileSine> So... trying to fiddle with the nvidia-331 drivers, every time I install them I end up stuck in low graphics mode until I revert back to 319, any ideas?
[19:10] <michael__> i try 12.10.. i have 3 months left
[19:10] <ander_> ?
[19:10] <michael__> thank you
[19:10] <ubuntu> test122333232
[19:11] <felon> SaberX01 : have you ever used it?
[19:12] <SaberX01> The horse is dead, enough said.
[19:12] <ander_> hey guy
[19:13] <apb1963> how can I test my microphone volume level?  I'm using a softphone and someone complained that they couldn't hear me.
[19:14] <user_> luz
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  in a terminal, type alsamixer... or in system settings > sound > input
[19:14] <user_> luz
[19:14] <ander_> can someone help me out  with a ubuntu13.10 issue
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> user_  it works, we see you
[19:15] <quem> ander_: don't ask to ask, just ask. ;)
[19:15] <ander_>  install build-essential, install libssl-dev, install aircrack-ng, install backports, start playing :
[19:15] <felon> yep
[19:15] <Speiros> Hello people.  Can someone direct me to the openoffice.org channel please.
[19:16] <chris1983> hello, can somebody help me installing an nvidia driver on a lenovo w530 xubuntu?
[19:16] <ernetas> ding, I figured out the problem... It turns out I had a file authorized_hosts, not authorized_keys... It's the second time I screw up spelling of this file. :D As for auth.log, sysklogd has an uptime of 350 days, so I suppose hostname was changed within that time and sysklogd does not update it automatically
[19:16] <ander_> after update to 10.13 usb card reader  is not working
[19:16] <ander_> nothing comes up under  lsusb?
[19:17] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: OK, I see some pretty vertical bars... is there something further?
[19:17] <glitsj16> FutileSine: nvidia-331 install might have had trouble building the dkms module, what does your "sudo dkms status" outputs? please use a pastebin to post multi-line output
[19:17] <FutileSine> So... when I update to the nvidia 331 drivers vs the 319 included in 13.10, I lose my desktop (low-graphics mode only/terminal).  When I install the 331 drivers, should I remove/purge the nvidia-current package, will that help?
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  use the arrows to navigate and increase or decrease, if you see MM, go there and press m
[19:18] <tab1293> I have the vlc app on my ipad, does anyone know if I can copy movies from ubuntu to the app?
[19:18] <Lucianus1983> greetings
[19:18] <Lucianus1983> anyone here?
[19:18] <FutileSine> Trying to figure out if it's due to a leftover bad settings from the nvidia319 drivers, or maybe a build problem somewhere
[19:18] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: I want to be on the capture screen?
[19:18] <ander_>  usb  card reader not being seen  after 13.10 update  any idea on what to do?
[19:18] <Geo> Hi, I'm using mdmadm for a RAID. It's time to grow the RAID size from the 750GB drives I have, to 2TB drives. Has anyone done something similar, or know a good resource I can research prior to hosing my data storage?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  the capture screen?
[19:20] <Lucianus1983> i have an ubuntu bug...anyone interested?
[19:20] <ander_> ?usb  card reader not being seen  after 13.10 update  any idea on what to do? nothing  under  lsusb
[19:20] <iceroot> !bug | Lucianus1983
[19:21] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: Top Left Hand side there's a menu... "View F3:[Playback] F4: Capture  F4: All"
[19:21] <ander_> ?usb  card reader not being seen  after 13.10 update  any idea on what to do? nothing  under  lsusb
[19:21] <SaberX01> Geo, over view: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1449154
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  no, navigate with the arrows to Mic Boost, under the vertical bars
[19:22] <Lucianus1983> brb
[19:22] <Lucianus1983> need to make a new photo of the bug
[19:22] <ander_> ?usb  card reader not being seen  after 13.10 update  any idea on what to do? nothing  under  lsusb
[19:23] <SaberX01> !patience | ander_
[19:23] <vl4kn0> Hi, I just installed ubuntu on Lenovo Ideapad G575, and I have problem with wireless driver, it appears to be working but I cannot scan or see any APs. The wireless card is Atheros AR9285.
[19:23] <Geo> thanks SaberX01
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> vl4kn0  try with wicd, it's in the repos
[19:24] <ander_> ok thank i will
[19:24] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: Got it.  However...  I had MM for mic...   which I now turned on.
[19:25] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: Oddly, skype took no notice of these settings.
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  well, now you did, we're here to learn :)
[19:25] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: What about the Phone setting?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  can't help with that
[19:26] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: Any idea what it's used for?  I'm still talking about alsamixer
[19:27] <OerHeks> apb1963, sounds like analog modem/phoneline, some laptops still have a line
[19:28] <apb1963> OerHeks: got it.  ty
[19:28] <apb1963> LFE?
[19:30] <apb1963> I presume PCM is Pulse Code Modulation
[19:30] <apb1963> not that I know what it would be used for
[19:30] <daftykins> PCM is the format of digital audio on music CDs
[19:31] <apb1963> daftykins: ok I remember that now...  but there's a CD setting.... so..... how does PCM fit into alsamixer?
[19:31] <OerHeks> LFE low freq effects, sounds like bass
[19:31] <jjavaholic> II'm looking for a relatively unknown text editor that has some useful coding functions i'll listen to all suggestions.
[19:31] <apb1963> cool
[19:31] <morgan101> what is out of rangre& how do i fix it
[19:32] <OerHeks> apb1963, time to read the alsamixer manual
[19:32] <Speiros> Thanks anyway.  I found the channel by typing "/join #openoffice.org"
[19:32] <apb1963> OerHeks: I just need the basics.... mic... speakers... possibly line in... just want to make sure I'm not missing anything I should be aware of.... not doing anything fancy here.
[19:33] <apb1963> MonkeyDust: Thank you for your help!
[19:33] <louisdk> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity and the default Ambience theme. After I upgraded Firefox it's like the black theming disappeared
[19:33] <louisdk> and it got silver: http://i.imgur.com/KxrOQr7.png
[19:34] <apb1963> OerHeks: And thank you too!
[19:34] <OerHeks> apb1963, have fun
[19:34] <apb1963> daftykins: And thank you!
[19:34] <jjavaholic> I have gotten fed up of gedit what is a good alternative
[19:34] <_Trullo> fedit
[19:34] <apb1963> OerHeks: Not fun.... work.... agony really.  But gotta get it done!
[19:35] <louisdk> If I start a private window or run a firefox tarball from mozilla.com I get my theme back: http://i.imgur.com/lMgqVl8.png
[19:35] <Geo> SaberX01, was that a random google, or have you used that before?
[19:35] <morgan101> no help i gone
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> jjavaholic  what do you want an editor to do?
[19:35] <Geo> I think thats more for adding a new disk, not growing the raid disks themselves
[19:35] <apb1963> I was using kde mixer
[19:35] <apb1963> it didn't have very useful settings
[19:35] <jjavaholic> edit conf and code files.
[19:35] <SaberX01> Geo, I ahd that bookmarked for mdadm .. I don't use SW RAID. All my servers that have RAID have HW controllers.
[19:36] <Geo> ok, thanks anyway
[19:36] <apb1963> but it shows up on my bar... so it was easy and natural.  How can I replace that icon with this program?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> !code | jjavaholic
[19:36] <ander_> ?usb  card reader not being seen  after 13.10 update  any idea on what to do? nothing  under  lsusb
[19:37] <Beldar> jjavaholic, try leafpad
[19:37] <Geo> http://webapp5.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/SuSe-Dokumentation/manual/sles-manuals_en/manual/raidresize.html
[19:37] <Geo> I think this is closer to what I'm looking for
[19:37] <Geo> But would love to talk with anyone who has done it, or simimlar, before I potentially blow my data away
[19:37] <Lucianus1983> when i try to make a memory test with it ubuntu says - Cannot load a ramdisk with an old kernel image - why is that?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> LarrySteeze|Away  what's the output of    uname -r
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983   what's the output of    uname -r
[19:38] <bonsu> where do i start if i wanna find my way around linux kernel
[19:38] <Lucianus1983> boot:_
[19:38] <Beldar> louisdk, Upgraded, the ubuntu repos have the latest releases.
[19:39] <SaberX01> !!manual | bonsu
[19:39] <louisdk> Beldar: I'm using 0.26 from the repos.
[19:39] <Lucianus1983> it shows me this bug
[19:39] <Lucianus1983> [       6.612178] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at 66726570
[19:39] <Lucianus1983> [       6.612279] ip: [<f86c5bca>] nouveau_perf_init+0x49a/0x5b0 [nouveau]
[19:40] <SaberX01> bonsu, then I would go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983   what's the output of    uname -r
[19:40] <Beldar> louisdk, mine is the same a light color except for the top window bar.
[19:40] <bonsu> i know the basic command and info of linux but i want to go further
[19:40] <Lucianus1983> i don t understand the what you are saying Monkey, i am sorry
[19:41] <louisdk> Beldar: If I start a private window or run in safe mode I get my theme back: http://i.imgur.com/lMgqVl8.png
[19:41] <Beldar> louisdk, I have the menu showing is all
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  in a terminal, type the command    uname -r
[19:41] <Lucianus1983> that's it?
[19:41] <SaberX01> bonsu, Not sure I follow, you want advanced Linux or Kernel information?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  then you know what kernel you are using
[19:42] <Lucianus1983> very well...be right back
[19:42] <bonsu> both cuz ii don't want to be only a user
[19:42] <Beldar> louisdk, You might want to show both, unity integrates to its top panel if you are do a full screen.
[19:42] <Beldar> doing*
[19:42] <SaberX01> bonsu, Ok, well this is wehre the heavy-weight's go for kernel stuff: http://vger.kernel.org/
[19:43] <Lucianus1983> where do i type that, in the memory test?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  i guess i missed something, what was your initial question
[19:43] <Beldar> louisdk, I'm not sure I understand your issue to be honest, there is a #firefox channel as well.
[19:44] <louisdk> Belder: I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity and the default Ambience theme. After I upgraded Firefox it's like the black theming disappeared and it got silver: http://i.imgur.com/KxrOQr7.png - If I start a private window or run a firefox tarball from mozilla.com I get my theme back: http://i.imgur.com/lMgqVl8.png
[19:45] <Lucianus1983> ok...i have two problems, Ubuntu has a bug and the fact that when i try to make a memory test it says - Cannot load a ramdisk with an old kernel image
[19:45] <Beldar> louisdk, The light theme is the stock theme.
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  ok, what kernel are you using? find out by opening a terminal and type    uname -r
[19:45] <Lucianus1983> i don t know how to open a terminal
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  ctrl-alt t
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  then where do you see that error, if not in a terminal?
[19:46] <Lucianus1983> when i try to boot
[19:46] <Lucianus1983> i see the bug that i showed you before
[19:47] <Lucianus1983> and the the Cannot load a ramdisk with an old kernel image
[19:47] <ander_> usb  card reader not being seen  after 13.10 update  nothing  under  lsusb
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  you lost me, i'm sure someone else can help better
[19:48] <Lucianus1983> can we talk in private, maybe i can make you understand
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  keep it in channel, so others can give advice
[19:49] <louisdk> Beldar: I've always had the black theme on all my Ubuntu 12.04 machines as default. But now after and update/extensions or something it became grey. His log from the terminal could mean that something is crashed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6692806/ - I'll try to debug this osme more.
[19:49] <Lucianus1983> very well
[19:49] <Geo> HE WILL MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND
[19:49] <SaberX01> Good luck with that :-)
[19:50] <Beldar> ander_, What is the computer and model?
[19:51] <Lucianus1983> mine?
[19:51] <ander_> asus Eeepc netbook
[19:51] <Beldar> ander_, So this is a usb sdd card reader?
[19:51] <ander_> 1005hab
[19:51] <ander_> yea
[19:52] <ander_> i need for reading compact flash cards
[19:53] <Lucianus1983> how do i open a terminal in windows xp?
[19:53] <vmusr> Lucianus1983, cmd
[19:53] <Beldar> ander_, Try it from the live cd would be where I started, not sure otherwise. Be sure to use nicks here so info is easy to find.
[19:53] <vmusr> you can do Windows key + R and type cmd
[19:53] <Ex0d1st> start/run/cmd
[19:53] <Ex0d1st> something like that
[19:54] <Geo> you do realized a windows terminal isnt what you're looking for though, right?
[19:54] <Geo> You need to be doing this on the ubuntu machine
[19:54] <ander_> Beldar: i dont have cd drive
[19:54] <Beldar> ander_, works on a usb, do any usb show?
[19:55] <Beldar> ander_, The eee is funky in that only some of the usb ports work to boot a usb, have you tried every port?
[19:56] <ander_> yea.. it see my cell phone and it will mount any usb flash card... just nothing from the card reader or my Nikon slr camera
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  are you working in windows?
[19:56] <Lucianus1983> yes
[19:56] <Beldar> ander_, and both of these worked in 13.04?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> Lucianus1983  how do you want ubuntu commands to work in windows?
[19:57] <Lucianus1983> Ok...i tried to install Ubuntu and i cannot
[19:57] <Siecje> I'm trying to format a usb drive to put a file on it but when I do I don't have permission to create on it
[19:57] <ander_> i dont  kow what changed during the update to 13.10.. or if it was somthing in the kernal
[19:57] <daftykins> Siecje: which file system are you formatting it with?
[19:57] <Lucianus1983> it says this
[19:57] <Lucianus1983> [       6.612178] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at 66726570
[19:57] <Lucianus1983> [       6.612279] ip: [<f86c5bca>] nouveau_perf_init+0x49a/0x5b0 [nouveau]
[19:57] <Siecje> daftykins: ext4
[19:58] <daftykins> Siecje: do you need large file support on it? either resolve the permissions or format with exFAT / FAT32
[19:58] <Beldar> ander_, You migh look on askubuntu with 13.10 eeepc and that reader and camera
[19:58] <Siecje> daftykins: how do I do either of those
[19:58] <daftykins> Siecje: well how did you format it as ext4 to start with?
[19:59] <ander_> Beldar_:  is there another command to check the usb ports besides lsusb?
[19:59] <Beldar> ander_, Might be, not aware of it though. Might help you to know that you can use your tab key to complete nicks.
[19:59] <ander_> beldar: i left a post on askunbuntu  the other day,,no replys as of yet
[20:00] <Beldar> ander_, Ah, good, you could try the guest account, and make a new account in users and see if it's the same there.
[20:00] <ander_> whats nicks?
[20:00] <Siecje> daftykins: on Ubuntu 13.04 I go to Disks but it fails with the error "Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[20:01] <Beldar> ander_, nicks are the name you use here "nickname"
[20:01] <daftykins> Siecje: are you going to be copying files greater than 1GB?
[20:02] <Phoebus> Hey guys, anyone have experience with TP-LINK wn822n - used to be auto-detected and now no more. Or point me to a good guide. Googled but got riff raff, thanks!
[20:03] <ander_> Beldar, i'll try the guest thing...
[20:03] <Beldar> Phoebus, Have you checked askubuntu, or the web in general with the release you are using?
[20:04] <Phoebus> Beldar, yeah haven't yielded anything yet sadly. Tried a few things, card no longer appears to even turn on.
[20:05] <squillow> hi - i need some help with getting vnc/"desktop sharing" to work while also running libvirt, when i connect to :0 its my first VM and :1 is my second vm and so on
[20:05] <yellabs> hello all
[20:05] <yellabs> i have some problems with adobe reader install on 12.04.1
[20:06] <yellabs> it breaks software center
[20:06] <ander_> Beldar, guest didnt work...
[20:06] <ander_> think i need pluging or somthing?
[20:07] <Beldar> Phoebus, I see a realtek driver solution here, realteks are problem in general for all wifi that work. http://www.ajaykumarsingh.com/linux/tp-link-tl-wn822n-300mbps-high-gain-wireless-n-usb-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-12-04.html   If you run lsusb do you see realtek mentioned?
[20:07] <Phoebus> Beldar, thank you, checking now.
[20:07] <badbadger> shake it upside down to release static
[20:08] <dev_> guys , i want to increase the space where mysql exist , i dont know how to do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6692916/
[20:08] <dev_> cuz its full so i cant connect to mysql :(
[20:08] <r00tking> dev_: :(
[20:09] <Beldar> ander_, Part of the problem in this situation is checking if it is just your user is the problem, so checking the guest is a good start, a new user and the live session is another check. One would think this should just work, do you remember adding any apps or drivers originally?
[20:09] <dev_> what ?
[20:09] <dev_> r00kting  :(
[20:09] <Siecje> daftykins: yes I want to move a 4.6 GB file
[20:09] <jhutchins> dev_: Back up your data.  Reinstall with a single partition + swap, restore the data.
[20:10] <dev_> jhautchins , im totaly new with ubuntu , i dont know commands :(
[20:10] <ander_> beldar yea in the older verion,,,, and i checked and they still seem to be installed
[20:11] <dev_> also , i cant connect to mysql to take packup or dump sql
[20:11] <daftykins> Siecje: are they both Linux computers that you're trying to exchange this file between?
[20:13] <Lucianus1983> when i try to install Ubuntu is shows me this:
[20:13] <Lucianus1983> [       6.612178] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at 66726570
[20:13] <Lucianus1983> [       6.612279] ip: [<f86c5bca>] nouveau_perf_init+0x49a/0x5b0 [nouveau]
[20:14] <zleap> hello
[20:14] <dev_> jhutchins ?
[20:14] <silentnights> Hi all, due to power problem on my laptop all my partitions showed a wrong superblock error, and I ran fsck -y  on one of the partitions, now all my files are moved to lost+found with crypted numbers, is there anyway I can restore the previous  directory structure for this partition
[20:15] <silentnights> I restored other partitions with the help from here: http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/
[20:16] <libpenguin> pdf editor for ubuntu ?
[20:16] <SAiF> one quick question.
[20:16] <silentnights> but the ones I ran fsck on doesn't seem to work with it
[20:16] <yellabs> i am trying to remove and install acroread , get this error , rather short ,
[20:16] <yellabs> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/acroread-bin_9.5.5-1precise1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/acroread', which is also in package adobereader-nld 8.1.7
[20:17] <SAiF> will the latest ubuntu support video drivers and codecs by default, just like in windows.?
[20:17] <yellabs> any tips are more then welcome
[20:17] <libpenguin> !pdf
[20:18] <yellabs> to remove package
[20:18] <libpenguin> !pdf-editor
[20:18] <SAiF> I am planning to switch a windows user to ubuntu. currently he uses win7. and that machine seems to have a slow internet conection.
[20:18] <yellabs> and repair software center
[20:18] <Beldar> ander_, If this means drivers or apps are still there you might reinstall them, drivers many times do not follow a distro upgrade.
[20:19] <REK_007> SAiF: yes it does ... but you may need to install proprietary drivers for advanced graphics support . Codecs few are there rest can be installed from the internet
[20:19] <SAiF> so I need your suggestion, Can I go with latest ubuntu or should I try somethng else. From what I remember the hardy and jaunty versions didnt had that
[20:19] <SAiF> thats what I used.. P:)
[20:19] <SAiF> on old days
[20:19] <libpenguin> suggest good pdf editors plz
[20:20] <Calinou> "PDF" and "editors" make two
[20:20] <drsn0w> anyone having issues booting the latest 14.04 from a USB?
[20:20] <drsn0w> it drops me to initramfs :(
[20:20] <SAiF> its just for watching movies and playing music.. thats all
[20:20] <Beldar> SAiF, I would have them dual boot to start with.
[20:20] <libpenguin> Calinou: editors for pdf
[20:20] <SAiF> 14.04?
[20:20] <drsn0w> 14.04 daily builds
[20:20] <ander_> beldar _ going to try  to re install them
[20:21] <SAiF> is there a 14.o4, I lost my track on 13.04 I guess
[20:21] <Calinou> dual boot means you're going to use one OS or the other, all the time
[20:21] <Beldar> !14.04 | drsn0w
[20:21] <drsn0w> its not officially released yet, its just past Alpha 1
[20:21] <DJones> drsn0w: Probably best asking in #ubuntu+1 which is the support channel for development releases
[20:21] <drsn0w> ohh okay :P
[20:21] <Calinou> it also is painful to do on recent PCs
[20:21] <drsn0w> thanks
[20:21] <Ziber> Hey, so I'm trying to install apache on 13.10. A lot of the system variables seem to be undefined and I guess the distro used to that for me on older versions? How can I define them?
[20:22] <elementz> hi all i am having trouble writing a proper udev rule which chmods a directory to 666. Issuing ls for the respective device dir returns: http://ix.io/9Ft udevadm returns: http://ix.io/9Fk and my udev rule looks as follows: http://ix.io/9Fu
[20:22] <Beldar> Calinou, This is support not subjective opinions
[20:22] <SAiF> well then downloading 13.10. :)
[20:22] <rakesh> how do i remove a folder from lib  which i moved but is of no use anymore
[20:22] <elementz> It seems that the directory gets set to 666 but not the file for the brightness
[20:22] <bekks> elementz: Changing a directory to 666 will remove the ability to cd into it and access the content.
[20:23] <SAiF> which will be the next LTS?
[20:24] <bekks> SAiF: 14.04
[20:24] <SAiF> thanks
[20:24] <Ziber> Any help with apache system variables not being set?
[20:24] <Guest68119> any1 there
[20:24] <dev_> is there good tuturial for ubuntu command line ?
[20:25] <ubuntutis> anybody know what software i could use to convert avi formats to mp4?
[20:25] <ars23> @dev_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:25] <ars23> or you can learn a bit bash
[20:26] <ars23> @ubuntutis on some forums avidemux is recommended... but ii think you can try ffmpeg
[20:27] <drsn0w> bash is wonderful
[20:27] <elementz> bekks: hmm. http://ix.io/9Fy maybe the rule is not parsed after all? what else could be going wrong? i would simply like to be able to write to the brighness-file as a normal user
[20:28] <bekks> elementz: set the brightness file to 666.
[20:28] <Ziber> Anyone familiar with apache environment variables not being set by default on 13.10?
[20:28] <Stormer98> hey, so I just installed ubuntu on a laptop, but it does not connect to ethernet, nor will it use the laptops wifi. WHen i plug in an external wifi adaptor, that does not work either. ANy ideas/
[20:28] <Stormer98> this is 112.04LTS, if it matters
[20:29] <Stormer98> *12
[20:29] <elementz> bekks: did you have a look at the udev-rule i posted earlier? http://ix.io/9Fu
[20:29] <Stormer98> also, the ethernet and wifi controllers show up in lspci, and the external adaptor shows up in lsusb
[20:30] <ars23> @ziber i didn't have that problem but you can download apache from internet and set the variables
[20:30] <Ziber> ars23: How should I set them?
[20:30] <Ziber> There's an envvars file, but that doesn't seem to do anything?
[20:30] <Phoebus> Beldar, well compiling the drivers with ./install script returns "compile make drive error: 2" any idea where that'd be written now?
[20:31] <Ziber> ars23: I apt-get installed it like I usually do.
[20:31] <Zanoni> nickserv
[20:32] <ars23> yes, but you must find where apache was installed and use export to set the variables...
[20:32] <Ziber> ars23: I'm a bit confused...
[20:33] <Ziber> I've never had to do anything manually for this before.
[20:33] <Beldar> Phoebus, Not sure I have rarely had to do anything but use the ubuntu repos or load a deb.
[20:33] <Guest68119> rm: cannot remove `jvm': No such file or directory
[20:34] <Beldar> Phoebus, In general on a unpacked download is a instruction text look for that.
[20:35] <Phoebus> Beldar, I'm looking... for now doing a general update just in case.
[20:35] <elementz> bekks: still there?
[20:37] <Beldar> !tab | ars23 no @ here.
[20:37] <deedee_> I have a 10.04 system and I'm trying to install the pae kernel as it shows here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE but there is no pae kernel in the repos
[20:37] <Beldar> deedee_, server or desktop?
[20:37] <ars23> ok... i didn't know!
[20:37] <Beldar> ars23, No biggie.
[20:37] <deedee_> Beldar, desktop
[20:38] <Beldar> deedee_, The 10,04 desktop is end of life the regular repos are not accessible.
[20:38] <drsn0w> ubuntu 9.04 here woohoo!
[20:38] <deedee_> Beldar, was afraid of that.... I'd upgrade but unity is dumb.
[20:38] <Beldar> drsn0w, not supported but good for you.
[20:38] <deedee_> Beldar, thanks anyway
[20:39] <drsn0w> Beldar: lol it's on my 13 year old mac :D
[20:39] <streulma> MonkeyDust: it works!
[20:39] <Beldar> deedee_, Many other desktops about 50 in all.
[20:39] <streulma> hello Ubuntu users :)
[20:40] <streulma> I'm on 12.04, can I upgrade to 13.10 ?
[20:40] <streulma> I think I should upgrade to 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10 ? :(
[20:41] <solange> better install 13.10 anew...
[20:41] <streulma> from scratch ?
[20:41] <Beldar> streulma, I would wait till 14.04 is released and go straight to it.
[20:41] <locoloco> streulma: second solange's suggestion, go straght to 13.10
[20:43] <SaberX01> I'd wait for 14.04... not really missing anything in 13.10.
[20:44] <drsn0w> 1404 is in what,jume?
[20:44] <SaberX01> 04 = April -)
[20:44] <Zenon-Zanoni> Hi, i have a pci-e gforce connected and i want to use two monitors... the primary connected to gforce and the secondary connected to the onboard card
[20:45] <Zenon-Zanoni> i'm using ubuntu 12.04 32 bits
[20:46] <Zenon-Zanoni> i opened the Monitors tab in the Configuration app
[20:46] <Zenon-Zanoni> but there is only one monitor
[20:46] <Zenon-Zanoni> when i type Ctrl+Alt+F1 the console show on the onboard monitor
[20:47] <Zenon-Zanoni> them i return to Ctrl+Alt+F7 it show in the gforce monitor
[20:47] <Zenon-Zanoni> any idea?
[20:47] <Zenon-Zanoni> on how to recognize both bonitors
[20:48] <MonkeyDust>  streulma i was away, what works?
[20:52] <streulma> MonkeyDust: I'm on Ubuntu !
[20:52] <Ex0d1st>   Allah is Great-------> (so is this guy)  http://i.imgur.com/TDQac1H.jpg
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> streulma  ok, the dual videocard thing?
[20:53] <streulma> MonkeyDust: yes, booted with nouveau.modeset=0 acpi=off
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> streulma  great, glad you made it, thumbs up
[20:56] <Phoebus> Trying to compile driver and kernel mod for the realtek 'rtl8192cu' chipset usb adapter on ubuntu 13, either by *.deb or source and ./install script same error: http://pastebin.ca/2528174 Any ideas?
[20:58] <roumayssa> Hello
[20:58] <__raven> how to renice 20 python2 processes at once?
[21:00] <pluto> Is the label for persistent partitions still casper-rw for 13.10?
[21:00] <Beldar> pluto, yep
[21:01] <pluto> thx
[21:02] <Geo> do distro upgrades require a reboot?
[21:02] <compdoc> yes
[21:02] <compdoc> if the kernel was installed
[21:02] <Beldar> Geo, from one release to another yes
[21:03] <Geo> thanks
[21:03] <compdoc> *if you mean dist-upgrade
[21:10] <Phoebus> Anyone that has installed a usb adapter on trl8192 successfully? ubuntu 13.
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | Phoebus
[21:11] <Phoebus> *rtl
[21:11] <__raven> how to renice 20 python2 processes at once?
[21:11] <Phoebus> MonkeyDust, asked a few, I'm at this stage: http://pastebin.ca/2528174 3 sets of rtl drivers all error out on compilation.
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> Phoebus  ok, start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong
[21:14] <Phoebus> MonkeyDust, trying to install TP-LINK wn822n on Ubuntu 13. Shows on lsusb as 'RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter', found 3 guides went through them, found one source based driver, failed same message as pastebin. Found a *.deb, failed same error.
[21:14] <Evelynx> Hello, I have a problem with installing curl and apparently something is wrong with my package manager in general: http://pastebin.com/iv9FrUPk
[21:15] <Evelynx> And according to the updating system the package manager is broken: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=edfd022
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> Phoebus  and that's a router?
[21:16] <Evelynx> Have only been using Xubuntu for a few days so sorry if this is a dumb question, couldn't find anything about this in the FAQ either.
[21:16] <Phoebus> MonkeyDust, USB access point/adapter.
[21:16] <Evelynx> And not with Google either.
[21:17] <Evelynx> So how do I fix this? It told me to run 'apt-get install -f' but that only leads to more errors as you can see in that pastebin.
[21:18] <Rav3nW00D> heyo
[21:22] <Beldar> Evelynx, Is this a mint install?
[21:25] <Phoebus> MonkeyDust, and Beldar thank you fixed it, for future ref: http://askubuntu.com/questions/290452/installing-workaround-realtek-drivers-for-edimax-but-getting-error
[21:25] <Beldar> Phoebus, cool,
[21:25] <Evelynx> Beldar, I'm not sure what you mean with 'mint install' but in case you are asking if it's Mint it's not, it's Xubuntu.
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> Phoebus  that's how good we are (joke)
[21:26] <Phoebus> Lol, no worries, the company helps too :)
[21:26] <pac1> without upgrading, can I grab a package from trusty?
[21:27] <jhutchins> pac1: Mixing releases is a great way to get to do a clean reinstall!
[21:28] <pac1> should be harmless. few dependencies.
[21:28] <pac1> mostly harmless...
[21:28] <Beldar> pac1, Have you looked in a ppa?
[21:28] <MicW> hi
[21:29] <pac1> I googled git-mediawiki and didn't see any ppa entries for it.  (its in trusty, apparently new) let me redo the search.
[21:29] <MicW> i try to get an "lxc" init script that starts/stop linux containers after zfs-mount is execued. so i added "Should-Start: $zfs" to my script
[21:29] <MicW> zfs-mount provides "zfs"
[21:30] <MicW> but it does not work, startup order is still wrong
[21:30] <adyzx> just completed an ubuntu minimal install on an older laptop. Following these instructions: http://tinyurl.com/nkgy6zx
[21:30] <pac1> there's this:
[21:31] <pac1> git-mediawiki_1.8.5-0ppa1~quantal1_all.deb
[21:31] <adyzx> I'm am now on "Post Installation". Problem is, I'm in grub. I press "Alt+F1" and don't the command line. What am i doing wrong?
[21:32] <pac1> git-mediawiki_1.8.5-0ppa1~saucy1_all.deb also.
[21:32] <pac1> can I just download and install this?
[21:32] <vl4kn0> Hi, I installed ubuntu on Lenovo Ideapad G575 with wireless card Atheros AR9285, but the wireless card did not detect any available connection and was "greyed out". Then I installed wicd and removed network manager and it works. Is there any way to make it run with network manager instead of wicd?
[21:32] <paroxyzm> nice exit message r00tking
[21:33] <Beldar> adyzx, the tty is not available at grub, you can boot to the cli if you have not added a desktop in the install, to add a desktop if that's you goal.
[21:33] <pac1> hmm wants git 1:18.5
[21:33] <Beldar> your*
[21:34] <hussain> hi is any one here??
[21:34] <vince> hussain, yes..
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> hussain, type /names to find out
[21:34] <Beldar> adyzx, The instructions are wrong to alt-f1 at grub
[21:34] <adyzx> Beldar: at the bottom of grub menu says press 'c' for a command-line. but i get grub> not your typical $ prompt
[21:34] <hussain> vince: how to find ip adress through terminal??
[21:35] <pac1> what Ip address?
[21:35] <pac1> yours?
[21:35] <pac1> something else?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> hussain  local ip address or public?
[21:35] <hussain> mac address:
[21:36] <Beldar> adyzx, At the grub menu all you can do is mess with grub, if you want to install anything boot grub to the command line.
[21:36] <chaotix> hey...  is anyone here familliar with the PS1 emulator, PCSX?  I downloaded it from the software center, and am having issues with it, and have not found any of the documentation or the ubuntu forums helpful
[21:36] <chaotix> if someone can help it would be much appreciated
[21:37] <pac1> hussain, we assume you are dealing with your local network.  Is this at home, or elsewhere?
[21:37] <chaotix> whoa thats weird
[21:37] <chaotix> i think it just fixed itself on its own
[21:37] <chaotix> neverfmind for now  :)
[21:38] <pac1> try  Google: "ubuntu what's my ip"
[21:38] <jcv_> I'm trying to create a virtual network of several 24 port switches all hosted within a single Linux machine, is creating several VDE switches my best solution?
[21:39] <vince> hussain ifconfig
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> huttan  ifconfig|grep HW
[21:40] <pac1> Google: "ubuntu what's my ip command"
[21:41] <adyzx> Beldar: looks like post #3 can help me: http://tinyurl.com/7697fqg
[21:42] <vince> chaotix,  what games you emulatin? i love me some bandicoot!
[21:42] <Beldar> adyzx, No you do not want a rootshell, what is your end goal here?
[21:42] <adyzx> Beldar: to install X and a light window manager
[21:42] <Beldar> adyzx, X meaning what?
[21:42] <PublicStaticVoid> Whats the developer channel?
[21:42] <Beldar> a desktop?
[21:43] <PublicStaticVoid> Is it true that Ubuntu is not going to Wayland?
[21:43] <adyzx> Beldar: the X11 windows system
[21:43] <Beldar> adyzx, boot to the command line from the grub menu and install away .
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> PublicStaticVoid  i guess Mir is the new objective
[21:44] <PublicStaticVoid> Why...
[21:44] <PublicStaticVoid> No applications are going to support it
[21:44] <PublicStaticVoid> Ubuntu is going to have to rebuild packages for Mir..
[21:44] <adyzx> Beldar: just looking to run terminal stuff since this computer is slow
[21:44] <PublicStaticVoid> The number fo available packages is going to drop trmendously..
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> PublicStaticVoid  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
[21:46] <nertil> or maybe someone from devs need to start to work on that kind of tweak :)
[21:46] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah I know what Wayland is..
[21:46] <bbteufel> hi
[21:47] <PublicStaticVoid> Its litterally where 90% of linux Distros are going..
[21:47] <bbteufel> i want to learn how to secure my linux station
[21:47] <PublicStaticVoid> Ubuntu is kind of taking itself away from Linux with this move..
[21:47] <bbteufel> and how to monitor internet trafic, connections, etc
[21:47] <bbteufel> where should i start ?
[21:47] <dada12> ciao
[21:47] <dada12> !list
[21:48] <PublicStaticVoid> Whats next, forking the Kernel and locking it up?
[21:48] <PublicStaticVoid> This smells like how Mac Evolved from Unix...
[21:48] <kostkon> PublicStaticVoid: display server is independent of the apps. btw wrong place to "com
[21:48] <PublicStaticVoid> Sorry
[21:48] <kostkon> plain"
[21:48] <OerHeks> PublicStaticVoid, this is no place to start a flamewar, support only
[21:48] <PublicStaticVoid> Was looking for the Dev channel
[21:48] <PublicStaticVoid> Can't find it
[21:49] <kostkon> !offtopic | PublicStaticVoid
[21:49] <PublicStaticVoid> Had no intention of starting a flame war.. sorry.
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> PublicStaticVoid  #ubuntu-app-devel
[21:49] <PublicStaticVoid> I know about the off topic channel
[21:49] <PublicStaticVoid> What happened to the Developer channel?
[21:49] <Beldar> adyzx, yes, and to do so you have to boot the base system, hit enter at the grub menu you will get to a command line. I forget if you have to log in there, if so do that then install what you need.
[21:49] <PublicStaticVoid> Thanks MonkeyDust
[21:50] <PublicStaticVoid> #ubuntu-app-devel
[21:50] <PublicStaticVoid> oops
[21:50] <adyzx> Beldar: i'll get back to you. my dumb a** forgot the login. was on a tty terminal. re-installing.
[21:51] <Beldar> adyzx, I doubt you need to reinstall.
[21:53] <VLanX> anyone knows if adobe has quit supporting flash for linux?
[21:54] <Beldar> VLanX, yep
[21:54] <dan_> exit
[21:54] <kostkon> VLanX: only security updates
[21:54] <VLanX> Beldar: so what will happen next?
[21:55] <Ackis> I set up a key pair to log in to my ubuntu system however the first time I ssh in it always asks me for a password however if I open a second ssh terminal it uses the key
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> Ackis  the question being?
[21:56] <Ackis> sorry, why do I need to enter my password the first time?
[21:57] <molossus> does anyone in here use odesk team on ubuntu 12.04? can it be installed?
[21:58] <duck304> hello... can someone help me with some information about building and compile apache 2.4 ? #httpd pointed to this group
[21:58] <duck304> I cannot seem to get mod_ssl te get it working
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> molossus  https://searchforliberty.wordpress.com/2012/06/06/installing-running-odesk-team-software-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/
[21:59] <OerHeks> molossus, https://www.odesk.com/downloads?os=linux it is in beta, so try it but we cannot give support
[21:59] <Hydr0p0nX> is there an alsa-backports type repo ?
[21:59] <molossus> thanks
[22:00] <Hydr0p0nX> the 3.2 alsa hdaudio modules have an issue with hdmi audio out for my card, the 3.11/3.12 modules seem to work fine
[22:01] <chen02> alguien aqui que hable español
[22:01] <ianorlin> !es
[22:01] <chen02> necesito ayuda en mi ubuntu
[22:01] <chen02> help my
[22:01] <chen02> gracias
[22:01] <OerHeks> duck304, saucy comes with apache 2.4.6
[22:02] <molossus> OerHeks, for 12.04 it doesnt say beta, so it must work better than the other distros
[22:02] <OerHeks> molossus, oke, have fun
[22:03] <duck304> I uses ubuntu 12.04... and that one comes with 2.2.2.. but I want to compile apache 2.4.7 on that distro...
[22:03] <duck304> and looking for some help about mod_ssl
[22:08] <ithought> in console, I enter: man -k ls I receive a response "ls: nothing appropriate"         how can I fix this?
[22:11] <OerHeks> ithought, do you want the manual of ls or search the short descriptions and manual page names for the keyword ls as regular expression?
[22:11] <duck304> is someone familiar with building apache 2.4 on ubuntu 12.04?
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> ithought  try LS -lF
[22:12] <ithought> OerHeks, yes I want to search short descriptions but it isn't working anymore
[22:12] <unknown--> Could someone take a look at my chkrootkit log? http://pastebin.com/P4xJApS8 Thankls.
[22:14] <BeWilled> hello... how do I uninstall a program previously installed with "make" "make install"
[22:15] <duck304> @BeWilled: check you it is installed by locate [program] or by which [program] and just rm -r [folder]. that is how I remove that
[22:15] <Beldar> BeWilled, depends on the install some go to just home and can be deleted, be specific here.
[22:15] <Beldar> duck304, @ is not used here you can tab complete nicks.
[22:17] <duck304> Beldar: thanx for the tip.. (first time on IRC)
[22:17] <vithic> BeWilled, unless 'make uninstall' from the directory where you compiled it works... it will be hard. :P
[22:17] <Ziber> Anyone have experience with apache web server on 13.10, having been installed from apt-get, not having environment variables set and subsequently not being able to run?
[22:17] <Beldar> duck304, heh your doing fine, thanks for joining the help.
[22:18] <Beldar> BeWilled, In the extraction is usually a instructions text.
[22:19] <stoffel00> hi. panic :'( I have overwritten sudo mv file /dev/sda1 what can I do?
[22:19] <BeWilled> duck304:I deleted the folder but it keeps showing in locate :S
[22:20] <Beldar> stoffel00, what was sda1?
[22:20] <stoffel00> mounted on /
[22:21] <vithic> BeWilled, the database that locate pulls information from only updates occasionally.
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  sda1 is a partition, you can overwrite that with mv
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> cannot*
[22:21] <ander_>  ran lsusb and my device was not seem... what would your next step be? ubuntu 13.10
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  so start from the beginning, what have you done and what are you experiencing now
[22:22] <stoffel00> but /dev/sda1 is now a file ....
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  yes, everything is a file in linux, in a terminal, type    mount   to know where sda1 is mounted
[22:24] <duck304> has some one ever checkt http://devincharge.com/compiling-apache-2-4-ubuntu-12-04/ ?
[22:24] <stoffel00> it is mounted on /
[22:24] <duck304> and made it working even with SSL?
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  good, so what's the problem
[22:25] <BeWilled> Removed binary is missing after I apt-get installed the program again (its in the repository too)
[22:26] <ithought> solution was sudo mandb -c
[22:26] <stoffel00> ls -lh /dev/sdb1 shows brw-rw---- 1 root disk'
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  b means block device, iirc
[22:27] <stoffel00> but ls -lh /dev/sda1 like a normal file -rw-rw-r-- ...
[22:27] <Catalin-> Hi there.
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  what is your actual question?
[22:28] <stoffel00> what happend if i restart my computer? will /dev/sda1 mounted?
[22:29] <BeWilled> this is the output /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  everything looks normal, so nothing special would happen
[22:30] <stoffel00> why the difference between  ls -lh /dev/sda1 and  ls -lh /dev/sdb1 ?
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  in a terminal, type    which ffmpeg   to know why you get that message
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> stoffel00  sda1 and sdb1 are partition names
[22:31] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  see, ffmpeg sits in /usr/bin/ and not in /usr/local/bin/
[22:32] <mikodo> rsync when you guys are syncing directories, like ( /dir/ ) , if we don't use (--delete), then everything on the receiving directory will always be saved. But, the receiving directory, for me the (backup), has the potential to becoming very big. Have I got this right?
[22:32] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: where is the command redirected to that possition?
[22:33] <rww> mikodo: yes
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  /usr/bin/ is where the executables are located, it's in your path
[22:33] <stoffel00> i know. ls -lh /dev/ -rwx------ 1 peter peter 4G
[22:33] <mikodo> rww, Thanks
[22:34] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: but when I type ffmpeg it redirects it to  /usr/local/bin/
[22:35] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: where can I fix that pointer?
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  not sure what you mean... redirects?
[22:35] <stoffel00> i know. ls -lh /dev/sda1 shows  -rwx------ 1 root  root 4G, ls -lh /dev/sda1 shows 'brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8'.
[22:36] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: for me it's like a pointer where the file is supposted to be located but isn't
[22:36] <stoffel00> no, sdb1. again: ls -lh /dev/sda1 shows  -rwx------ 1 root  root 4G, ls -lh /dev/sdb1 shows 'brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8'.
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  you mean the binary file ffmpeg?
[22:37] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: I am talking about the relationship with the command to the location of the binary file
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  the command IS the binary file
[22:38] <BeWilled> BeWilled: when I type "ffmpeg" on terminal it references the the binary file
[22:38] <stoffel00> is /dev/sda1 still a partition? what happend after a reboot?
[22:39] <tfous> Hello?
[22:39] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: but that reference seems to be broken, so I need to point it to the right direction
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  if you wnat, you can download the source of ffmpeg, because it is a file
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  what happens, when you type ffmpeg in a terminal
[22:40] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust:bash: /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  that's odd... and there's no alias for ffmpeg? look in .bashrc
[22:41] <tfous> Hey i'm having trouble connecting to the internet on my fresh ubuntu 13.10 install... can anyone help?
[22:41] <duck304> tfous: what are your network settings?
[22:42] <duck304> tfous: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[22:43] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: there is no alias in /root/.bashrc it must be somewhere else
[22:43] <rww> BeWilled: what's the output of `which ffmpeg`?
[22:44] <rww> oh, /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[22:44] <Guest48140> Hey guys, isn't the unity search box also supposed to look for programs? Cause I've changed the system language and nothing shows here anymore, like konversation, pidgin, and everything else, only filed and documents...
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  or in ~/.bashrc
[22:44] <rww> BeWilled: what's the output of ls -l /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[22:45] <BeWilled> rww: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 168344 Sep 12 06:57 /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  try this line, first
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg --reinstall
[22:47] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: :)
[22:47] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: that fixed the issue
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> !yay
[22:48] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: thanks man
[22:49] <alt096`> hi all
[22:54] <stoffel00> i've ask my question on ##linux. if you have an idea, please answer there.
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  my pleasure
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> BeWilled  FFmpeg is a nice GUI
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> make that winFF
[23:01] <BeWilled> MonkeyDust: thats nice to know, specially for learning the commands, I'm intending to use it in a bash process
[23:02] <enedil> Hi!
[23:03] <Draton> Hi everyone, anyone have any experience moving a windows partition to a new ssd?
[23:04] <Beldar> Draton, Yep I just used clonezilla saves the mbr.
[23:04] <enedil> @Draton U can use dd (see man dd)
[23:04] <compdoc> Draton, clonezilla
[23:04] <Beldar> !tab | enedil
[23:04] <enedil> thanks, it'm my first day on IRC ;)
[23:05] <Beldar> Draton, You should have that OS imaged anyway, there is a onboard already for this.
[23:05] <Draton> oh nice, thanks - and i assume if i don't touch my ubuntu partition reconfiguring grub to point at it will work fine?\
[23:06] <Beldar> Draton, not really a clear description.
[23:06] <pepito> Hi ! Help please. When i want start vidalia, I launch it in terminal (command : vidalia) and It say to me : "Vidalia detected that the Tor software exited unexpectedly", I don't understand why ...
[23:07] <Beldar> Draton, Use nicks here, so we know exactly whats up.
[23:07] <Draton> Beldar: oh sorry, so essentially - moving win 7 to new ssd, deleting old ntfs partition on current ssd, expanding ubuntu to utilize new space, repoint grubs win7 reference to new ssd
[23:08] <Beldar> Draton, where is ubuntu now old or new SSD?
[23:08] <Draton> old
[23:08] <Draton> Beldar: i'm separating them to separate ssds
[23:09] <Beldar> Draton, Yeah, just run sudo update-grub and make sure the boot is still on that old sssd.
[23:09] <Draton> great
[23:10] <mich> Hi there! I would need some help from someone with bash scripting experience!
[23:10] <Beldar> Draton, On occasion however moving the front of the ubuntu partition will get you a grub> prompt, just use the bootrepair app to fix that.
[23:10] <Beldar> mich, State the issue for help.
[23:11] <mich> I need a simple bash script I have a folder with many files with each different dates, I need a script which creates folders with the names of the dates containing these files
[23:11] <pepito> Is somebody can help me :)
[23:11] <mich> sorting the fiels by date and putting them nn folders which have the name of the date
[23:11] <arc___> hello everyone
[23:12] <arc___> hey if i want to make my ubuntu server a primary domain controller do i need to install samba4
[23:13] <arc___> !samba4
[23:14] <arc___> no one knows ?
[23:15] <bekks> arc___: Samba < v4 cannot act as a primary DC.
[23:15] <arc___> what ?
[23:15] <arc___> so what will
[23:15] <bekks> Samba v4 at least.
[23:16] <arc___> so what do i do to have a p dc then
[23:16] <bekks> Install Samba v4.
[23:17] <arc___> so apt-get install samba4
[23:18] <krabador> black screen at reboot, after installing nvidia 319 or 304 on jockey, on ubuntu 13.10
[23:18] <krabador> what can i do?
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> krabador: what gpu do you have and can you pastebin your /var/log/Xork.0.log
[23:26] <krabador> hitsujiTMO, nvidia 8300gs
[23:27] <krabador> i cant paste the log, because the pc is locked on blackscreen
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> krabador: can you try ctrl + alt + f1 to get tty1 ?
[23:28] <krabador> i tried, not
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> krabador: can you reboot. edit grub and add the text kernel option
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> !text | krabador
[23:33] <Gallomimia> when the screen locks, under ubuntu 13.10 stock (unity SM??) trying to wake it up shows the desktop image, plus the window for entering a password, switch user options, stuff like that. is it possible to move that window up a couple hundred pixels since it's in the way of some words on my desktop image?
[23:34] <pepito> I ask again : When i want start vidalia, I launch it in terminal (command : vidalia) and It say to me : "Vidalia detected that the Tor software exited unexpectedly", I don't understand why ... Help please
[23:35] <enedil> can you type vidalia&?
[23:36] <azi`> my laptop shut down unexpectedly.. is there any way I could find some logs about that?
[23:36] <pepito> enedil, [1] 6165 is the result
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> azi`: shut down as in shut down , or shut down as in powered off without going thru the shut down procedure?
[23:37] <Ohga> can I somehow apt-get ddclient 3.8.1 on Ubuntu 12.04? I just get "already newest version" at 3.8.0
[23:37] <enedil> azi`: search in /var/log
[23:37] <azi`> hitsujiTMO: i left it running and it was shut down now that I came back
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> azi`: /var/log/syslog would be your best bet.
[23:38] <enedil> Ohga: maintainers havent package it yet for LTS
[23:38] <azi`> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[23:39] <Ohga> enedil: so... I need to download the tar.gz?
[23:40] <azi`> hm.. there is some segfault related to apport
[23:43] <peghi> ciao
[23:43] <peghi> !list
[23:44] <Beldar> Ohga, There is a 3.8.2, however be careful with the latest outside the ubuntu repos, use only if really needed.
[23:44] <Ohga> Beldar: you know if it uses semver?
[23:45] <Ohga> Beldar: *versioned with semver
[23:45] <jhutchins> !tor
[23:45] <Beldar> Ohga,  outside the repos is not supported, no idea on anything about it though.
[23:45] <jhutchins> pepito: See if those docs help.
[23:46] <vl4kn0> Hi, I cannot get the ath9k module to work with network manager. It works with wicd. Any idea?
[23:46] <Ohga> Beldar: alright, thanks
[23:46] <Ohga> I'll try it and see what happens
[23:50] <pepito> jhutchins, that doesn't help me :( ... I install pr
[23:51] <lakus> \sc
[23:51] <BbbKUE> hi all
[23:51] <pepito> privoxy with tor, it's because i want to have tor not just as a plugn in
[23:52] <BbbKUE> how can I made my ubuntu box send its hostname  via
[23:52] <BbbKUE> my LAN?
[23:53] <bekks> BbbKUE: Send it to whom/where?
[23:53] <Gallomimia> very obscure question BbbKUE. how are you planning to use the hostname on other machines?
[23:54] <Gallomimia> for example if the hostname is ubuntu, do you want to be able to type ssh ubuntu or connect to ftp ubuntu and the like?
[23:55] <BbbKUE> I mean. in my router web page I can see the list of connected device and Windows PC are show edith thre hostname
[23:55] <BbbKUE> *with their
[23:55] <bekks> BbbKUE: Thats the DHCP status page of your router.
[23:56] <Gallomimia> bekks: regardless, the hostname is still "sent" to the router, his question is valid
[23:56] <Gallomimia> it's part of the dhcp request
[23:56] <bekks> Gallomimia: I didnt say his question was invalid.
[23:56] <BbbKUE> i disabile dhcp on it. and every device has a statica ip
[23:56] <bekks> I just explained what that page is for.
[23:57] <Burrito> Maybe the router should be assigned as a DNS server.
[23:57] <general981> hello
[23:57] <Gallomimia> then.... why do you want your hostname sent to the router?
[23:57] <general981> !list
[23:58] <BbbKUE> 'cause windows PC do that and linux not!
[23:58] <Gallomimia> the "hostname" is sent as a dhcp client id, which you can configure in your ipv4 settings under wired connections.
[23:58] <Burrito> Mine does. ._.
[23:58] <Gallomimia> client-id is not equal to hostname
[23:58] <Gallomimia> windows just confuses it for you
[23:58] <Gallomimia> so does macosx
[23:59] <Burrito> "We're right, everyone else is wrong!" :P
[23:59] <BbbKUE> mmm... ok. how can I configure in IP4 settimana?
[23:59] <BbbKUE> *settings