[03:12] <oerheks> https://snapstats.org/snaps?q=&offset=0&limit=20&field=date_published&order=-1
[03:17] <hammies> im getting this error netplan unknown key address
[03:17] <hammies> when i try to apply new network config
[03:26] <Bashing-om> !netplan | hammies
[06:32] <inl-06> ok
[06:40] <Kartagis> can I get help with my hibernation problem? https://termbin.com/x0xo
[06:42] <lotuspsychje_> !details | Kartagis
[06:42] <lotuspsychje_> Kartagis: ubuntu release and the brand of your computer would help, also describe what happens exactly
[06:47] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje_: the laptop doesn't hibernate when I close the lid. I'm on 22.4.01, my laptop is lenovo thinkpad, my /etc/systemd/logind.conf is at https://termbin.com/bcdo and I have other information at https://termbin.com/x0xo
[06:48] <lotuspsychje_> Kartagis: whats your current kernel version please
[06:48] <lotuspsychje_> uname -a
[06:49] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: 5.15.52-generic
[06:49] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: could you check your ubuntu software centre to see if there are lenovo firmwares available?
[06:56] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: a few but none hibernation related
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> try to install them, then pastebin your dmesg please Kartagis
[06:58] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KEsbxB
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> no thats not it Kartagis usualy in the last tab updates should they showup
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> you dont need to search for lenovo as keyword
[06:59] <Kartagis>  and firefoxlotuspsychje: I have only secure boot dbx configuration update
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: that will show us in your dmesg
[07:04] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: nothing in dmesg
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> can you share it please Kartagis
[07:05] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/qfp7k
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: a similar bug to yours possibly; bug #1970957
[07:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1970957 in linux (Ubuntu) "suspend problem" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1970957
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: users mention kernel 5.18 and 6.0 might resolve it
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> you might wanna try to reproduce that with the !mainline kernels
[07:11] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: similar but not quite - mine doesn't even hibernate
[07:11] <Kartagis> !mainline
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: im also reading TPM could cause trouble regarding hibernation, worth a test in your bios/uefi too
[07:12] <Kartagis> TPM?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: comment #75 in that bug
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: i also see a few ACPI issues in your dmesg and amdgpu errors you might need to checkout
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: for ACPI you can try checking if your firmware is up to date to latest, for amdgpu also likes higher kernel versions
[07:40] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: I couldn't find fTPM in BIOS. there was a TPM under Security Chip though and I disabled it.
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats prob what the user meant, typo
[08:01] <SandDustWind1> I was recently homeless on the streets and want to discuss/blog about it here, also I used Linux during this experience so its relevant.
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | SandDustWind1
[08:20] <scamkid> yaes
[08:20] <BrassPin88> hi, my kid needs games.
[08:20] <scamkid> i am not ur kid >:(
[08:20] <BrassPin88> sorry, it's the name.
[08:20] <scamkid> any fun things to set up on an ubuntu server
[08:21] <murmel> scamkid: whatever you like to learn? :)
[08:22] <scamkid> wait i have an idea i could make a game server
[08:22] <BrassPin88> scamkid please have a discord bridge
[08:23] <BrassPin88> murmel will you help?
[08:23] <murmel> BrassPin88: for what
[08:24] <murmel> and btw, this is an ubuntu support channel, if you want to talk offtopic, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:26] <BrassPin88> hi murmel ,, could you please join #ubuntu-offtopic and introduce me to some good people.
[08:26] <murmel> BrassPin88: just talk, some will answer ;). quite the exquisite people over there :)
[08:27] <BrassPin88> murmel will there be devs? devs native to the latest ubuntu project?
[08:27] <murmel> BrassPin88: very unlikely. but that really depends on what you want
[08:29] <BrassPin88> murmel Can you check if my avatar is clothed?
[08:29] <murmel> oO
[08:30] <murmel> what do you mean?
[08:30] <BrassPin88> my avatar ... don't you all have avatars?
[08:30] <murmel> if you are talking about being cloaked in irc, then yes
[08:30] <BrassPin88> then you have a cloak atleast
[08:30] <murmel> I know what an avatar is, but no idea what you mean by it in conjunction with irc
[08:31] <murmel> BrassPin88: if you mean cloak, then we are talking about your account
[08:31] <BrassPin88> murmel that's good! we need avatars in irc.
[08:31] <BrassPin88> discord has profiles
[08:31] <BrassPin88> we need to keep up
[08:31] <murmel> BrassPin88: lol, irc is way older than that. and there is no need for that
[08:33] <BrassPin88> murmel can we put a number to the age of irc?
[08:33] <BrassPin88> !greet fheimes
[08:33] <BrassPin88> ...
[08:34] <kai> the interesting question is: Does IRC have legs?
[08:34] <BrassPin88> irc can't be that old, I just found a method that should work and it didn't.
[08:34] <murmel> BrassPin88: wikipedia: "IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988"
[08:34] <kai> I'd argue yes, after all how else would you kick somebody from a channel?
[08:34] <Ecko> Hi
[08:34] <BrassPin88> kai I imagine a .... <permission denied to access memory of generated image>
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[08:35] <Ecko> With openssl releasing a patch for a critical vuln today, will one be released for ubuntu 2204 today too? and at what time?
[08:35] <BrassPin88> murmel I suspect now that libera has ownership of the wikipedia project as viewed by goog results.
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> not here please BrassPin88
[08:36] <BrassPin88> please say i am wrong
[08:36] <BrassPin88> lotus|NUC
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> leave this channel for ubuntu support issues only please
[08:36] <murmel> Ecko: very likely, but there shouldn't be a release time as they just push it out after testing
[08:36] <BrassPin88> lotuspsychje give me the channel name where I should be at?
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> !chat | BrassPin88
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[08:37] <BrassPin88> how to check ubottu's botmaster?
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> thats also not a topic for here BrassPin88
[08:38] <BrassPin88> lotuspsychje will you please be my guide through ubuntu-discuss?
[08:43] <ronnie> My system Software updater is stuck on reinstall grub on a btrfs partition: https://i.postimg.cc/tR6tYV26/image.png In the left popup i can click on "next" but it then asks to skip the grub install probably because it fails to install.
[08:44] <ronnie> How can i reinstall/reconfigure grub the right way?
[08:44]  * BrassPin88 wonders how anyone can have system issues during halloween
[08:45] <murmel> is it just me or is the pic completely streched?
[08:46] <ronnie> its cut out, so not my full screen
[08:46] <murmel> ronnie: so what happens if you try to install update grub yourself (update-grub)
[08:47] <ronnie> It looks like that works: https://i.postimg.cc/kgwKSQ0j/Screenshot-from-2022-11-01-09-47-08.png
[08:48] <ronnie> Can i safely skip the GUI version?
[08:51] <murmel> ronnie: well, it should be quite easy to fix it if it doesn't boot, as long as you have a usb stick with ubuntu live on it (or any linux version)
[08:55] <ronnie> Let's hope it works, i'm not that good with fixing grubs with live-usb's. Gonna reboot
[08:58] <BrassPin88> realivanjx what is your purpose here?
[09:26] <kerfluffy> hi
[09:26] <kerfluffy> anyone know how to stop auto update of Chrome on ubuntu?
[09:26] <kerfluffy> i'm on 20.04
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> chrome is not officialy supported on ubuntu kerfluffy
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> you will have to seek support at their support links
[09:27] <alkisg1> kerfluffy: sudo apt-mark hold google-chrome-stable
[09:27]  * alkisg1 thinks that usage of ubuntu is still supported in this channel
[09:27] <kerfluffy> but i see my chromium being auto-updated and the chromium page says it's the package manager
[09:28] <alkisg1> They're not asking about solving a chrome bug, they're asking about ubuntu usage
[09:28] <kerfluffy> ^
[09:28] <alkisg1> kerfluffy: wait, chrome or chromium?
[09:28] <alkisg1> Chromium is a snap, google-chrome is deb
[09:28] <kerfluffy> alkisg1 both actually
[09:28] <alkisg1> I'm not using snaps I can't answer regarding chromium
[09:30] <kerfluffy> google-chrome-stable set on hold.
[09:30] <kerfluffy> great. thanks
[09:30] <kerfluffy> now i just need to figure what to do with snap
[09:30] <murmel> just remember to remove it to update
[09:30] <murmel> at some point ;)
[09:31] <kerfluffy> yeah :)
[09:31] <kerfluffy> i'd prefer manual update
[09:31] <murmel> kerfluffy: the best way would be to download the snap and install it from disk, so it doesn't auto update
[09:31] <BrassPin88> i'm counting murmel and lotuspsychje as my friends now.
[09:31] <murmel> kerfluffy: which means, snap download <package>, snap install ./<package>
[09:32] <kerfluffy> murmel oh. so snap download + snap install won't auto-update?
[09:33] <murmel> kerfluffy: yes, as it doesn't connect it the install to the snap store (which means it doesn't know where the snap came from and can't upgrade)
[09:34] <kerfluffy> murmel but snap download would have to know the source
[09:34] <kerfluffy> where to fetch the file from
[09:34] <murmel> but I really wonder why somebody doesn't want the browser to actually be latest :S
[09:34] <murmel> kerfluffy: sure, but the install doesnt
[09:34] <kerfluffy> murmel chromium just got updated to 108 beta. and it's very broken
[09:34] <kerfluffy> so broken that i can't even open it
[09:34] <ogra> sudo snap revert chromium
[09:34] <murmel> when you install the *.snap file, where should snap know from where the snap came from?
[09:35] <ogra> (will get you back to the former version on disk)
[09:35] <murmel> kerfluffy: yeah, revert. on the other hand, can you give us the errors? on my ubuntu installs it works fine
[09:35] <kerfluffy> oh, revert
[09:35] <kerfluffy> damn
[09:36] <kerfluffy> murmel same error as this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1993581
[09:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1993581 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] posix_spawn: No such file or directory" [Critical, In Progress]
[09:36] <ogra> (but latest works fine here too ... )
[09:36] <kerfluffy> 'posix_spawn: No such file or directory'
[09:36] <murmel> oh edge
[09:37] <murmel> maybe you should point out that you use beta software ;)
[09:37] <ogra> weell, edge a week+ ago
[09:37] <kerfluffy> i really don't know my way around snap..
[09:37] <ogra> but yeah, dont use edge if you dont want to seek for bugs
[09:38] <murmel> kerfluffy: if you want to go back to the stable channel use "sudo snap refresh --channel latest/stable chromium"
[09:38] <ogra> "snap help" and "snap help <command>" are very helpful usually 😉
[09:39] <kerfluffy> great
[09:39] <kerfluffy> the problem is my google-chrome is at 107 but chromium at 106
[09:39] <murmel> yes, it needs a bit of time to compile and test
[09:39] <murmel> so wait, you are using stable oO
[09:40] <murmel> but you have an issue with the snap
[09:40] <kerfluffy> i'm using chromedriver and it's at 107
[09:40] <kerfluffy> so chromium on snap won't work on that
[09:40] <ogra> he bug points to edge (10😎 ...
[09:40] <ogra> 108
[09:40] <kerfluffy> ogra yeah
[09:41] <ogra> bt you see the exact same error message n 106 ??
[09:41] <kerfluffy> i'm trying to sync both google-chrome and chromium to use the same version
[09:41] <kerfluffy> ogra no, 106 is fine
[09:41] <ogra> ah
[09:41] <kerfluffy> but my google-chrome is already on 106
[09:41] <kerfluffy> *107
[09:41] <ogra> well, yeah, chrome does not get built for arm or riscv i guess ...
[09:41] <kerfluffy> would it be a good idea to revert google-chrome to 106
[09:42] <ogra> nah
[09:42] <ogra> if bth work it should all be fine
[09:42] <murmel> does it matter that there is a mismatch of versions? (I mean we are talking here a difference of 30 days or so)
[09:42] <kksilvery> Ok
[09:42]  * ogra wonders what's up wih his vowel keys)
[09:42] <kerfluffy> i'm using selenium and i believe chromedriver comes with google-chrome
[09:42] <kerfluffy> and it's at 107
[09:42] <kksilvery> Can someone tell me how to join Ubuntu Docs?
[09:42] <kerfluffy> but chromium on snap is 106
[09:43] <ogra> yes, bih come from different places and are built by different people
[09:43] <ogra> *both
[09:43] <murmel> there are ways to get earlier releases but I wouldn't recommend them
[09:43] <kerfluffy> which is why i'm trying to disable auto-update in order to have them synced
[09:43] <ogra> (and for different architectures that are operating at different speeds)
[09:45] <kksilvery> Can someone tell me how to join Ubuntu Docs? 🙂
[09:45] <ogra> kerfluffy, you can not completely disable snap updates (for security reasons) but you can set a schedule or a delay: https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date
[09:46] <kerfluffy> right
[09:46] <ogra> kksilvery, find the aunchpad team and send a request ?
[09:46] <ogra> *launchpad
[09:46] <kerfluffy> is google-chrome-stable 106 still on apt?
[09:46] <murmel> I would probably hold chrome, and then when chromium updates, update chrome
[09:46] <murmel> kerfluffy: you would need to see in the repo
[09:46] <ogra> yeah
[09:48] <alkisg1> apt policy google-chrome-stable => only 107.0.5304.87-1 available
[09:48] <kerfluffy> sudo apt install google-chrome-stable=106.0.5249.103-1
[09:48] <kerfluffy> E: Version '106.0.5249.103-1' for 'google-chrome-stable' was not found
[09:48] <kerfluffy> alkisg1 yeah
[09:49] <alkisg1> You could file a bug request in them though, apt allows multiple versions
[09:49] <alkisg1> (inside the same apt repository)
[09:49] <kerfluffy> i wonder why they took it down so soon
[09:49] <alkisg1> Their scripts probably don't allow multiple versions
[09:49] <alkisg1> (their apt repository management scripts)
[09:50] <kerfluffy> right
[09:53] <alkisg1> kerfluffy: wget https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_106.0.5249.119-1_amd64.deb
[09:53] <kerfluffy> alkisg1 i was just searching for that
[09:53] <kerfluffy> link
[09:53] <kerfluffy> thanks
[09:59] <jjakob> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libpython3.10-stdlib_3.10.8-1+focal1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/python3.10/_sysconfigdata__linux_x86_64-linux-gnu.py', which is also in package libpython3.10-minimal:amd64 3.10.2-1+focal1
[09:59] <jjakob> these are from the deadsnakes ppa
[10:02] <alkisg1> jjakob: in general PPAs are not supported here, you can either contact the author or ask us how to remove that PPA (using ppa-purge)...
[10:02] <jjakob> https://github.com/deadsnakes/issues/issues/207
[10:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 207 in deadsnakes/issues "typing.py / sysconfigdata upgrade conflicts (3.6+)" [Closed]
[10:03] <jjakob> do they really expect me to purge and reinstall those packages
[10:04] <kerfluffy> all good now
[10:04] <kerfluffy> thanks a lot
[10:04] <alkisg1> 👍
[10:05] <jjakob> luckily I can purge them as I only use them for a venv so there's no dependencies that it'd uninstall
[10:07] <alkisg1> Are we waiting for an openssl update for 22.04 today? Should I do my server's monthly updates now, or wait until it's published?
[10:09] <xx> alkisg1: do them now, in order to debug any issues before any new updates come out, so that you know which one broke stuff
[10:09] <xx> but that's just my 2c
[10:09] <alkisg1> xx, eh the point is to avoid the double effort :D
[10:10] <xx> double effort now, to prevent quadruple effort later
[10:10] <xx> keep in mind that if the exploit is really bad, it will likely still rely on a chain of vulnerabilities
[10:10] <xx> so you should fix those other vulnerabilities
[10:10] <alkisg1> I do monthly updates separately on primary/secondary servers; are you suggesting I'd do e.g. bi-weekly updates, to double the effort to possibly bisect a breakage easier?
[10:11] <gneeriiloeepdeer> is there any way to use android apps with an ubuntu / linux emulator?
[10:11] <gneeriiloeepdeer> not for testing, but for regular use
[10:11] <xx> alkisg1: well, it's easier to find out what the culprit is if you do smaller upgrades, but it really depends on what you're capable of managing
[10:12] <kkkssf> gneeriiloeepdeer anbox
[10:13] <alkisg1> xx, the sneaky issues are usually reported by users; it's not nice to interrupt their work too frequently to get them to work on backup servers to test each and every update that arrives on ubuntu respotirories... hence, patch tuesdays and monthly updates...
[10:13] <alkisg1> But are we waiting for an openssl update?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> gneeriiloeepdeer: you can run adroidx86 iso in a VM on ubuntu too, like virtualbox for example
[10:14] <xx> alkisg1: yes, 22.04 has openssl3, which will receive the update
[10:14] <alkisg1> Thanks!
[10:15] <Pruners> I want to run Ubuntu on a SBC, portable, anyone have experience with one of the AMD processors for this?  Odroid is one AMD SBC, but there are others.
[10:16]  * alkisg1 thinks Pruners is asking about ARM, not AMD...
[10:16] <Pruners> why am I not asking about AMD?  I have an AMD processor on this computer which is Ubuntu...
[10:17] <Pruners> Some SBC's do have AMD
[10:17] <alkisg1> Which odroid version has an AMD processor?
[10:21] <gneeriiloeepdeer> is anbox full command line? the gui opened and closed
[10:23] <Pruners> I was wrong, Odroid don't have AMD, I was thinking of Udoo.  UDOO Bolt
[10:24] <gneeriiloeepdeer> if my Architecture is x86_64, do I have to use androidx86 instead of anbox?
[10:25] <alkisg1> Pruners: AMD processors use the x86_64 (amd64) architecture, so you can use normal Ubuntu versions for them, it's the same as installing Ubuntu in a PC
[10:25] <BrassPin88> alkisg1 please explain x86_64 for the children involved in this channel
[10:26] <alkisg1> Sorry it's adult content only
[10:26] <ogra> well, odroid *has* an x86 based board now ...
[10:26] <ogra> but intel, not amd
[10:26] <BrassPin88> alkisg1 please tell me that's a joke
[10:26] <ogra> (the new H3 board)
[10:27] <alkisg1> BrassPin88: of course dear! You can google for x86_64 and read about it, it just means the pc architecture
[10:27] <ogra> BrassPin88, well, a joke question go a joke answer ...
[10:27] <ogra> *got
[10:28] <BrassPin88> ogra hi, i'm from stack, i asked a serious question on mathematics and got a joke answer, do you have a modicum on how i respond to that?
[10:29] <ogra> BrassPin88, mathematics are not really the topic of this channel ...
[10:30] <BrassPin88> yet you can sudo apt install a scientific calculator and start a youtube channel to teach me, can't you?
[10:31] <ogra> BrassPin88, do you have an actual ubuntu problem to solve ? this channel is for support with ubuntu problems ...
[10:33] <ogra> Pruners, ubuntu runs fine on the UDOO boards, i have seen UbuntuCore as well as UbuntuServer running on them before
[10:35] <nteodosio> kerfluffy, a build with what I believe is a fix is ongoing.
[10:36] <kerfluffy> nteodosio great!
[10:38] <jsbach> hi all
[10:38] <HackphiL> hi you own
[10:38] <jsbach> is there a way to reload a rsyslog daemon on a configuration change? afaik, the rsyslog has to be restarted in order to get the configuration changes read again.
[10:41] <BrassPin88> how dare a WeeChat user enter here.
[10:41] <jsbach> i have looked at the init.d script and it shows a stop && start , for reload
[10:42] <BrassPin88> "/who &&" is not working
[10:42] <BrassPin88> "/whois &" is also problematic.
[10:43] <Ilfreddo92> hey buongiorno a tuttii
[10:43] <ravage> !it | Ilfreddo92
[10:43] <ravage> jsbach, yes that seems to be the only way
[10:44] <jsbach> ravage, thanx for the answer.
[10:45] <jsbach> a pity that there is no perl/python api to control the daemon.
[10:45] <ravage> but if you do automatic changes to the files you can add a restart command
[10:47] <jsbach> well yeah, i have a setup where i want to change the log levels on the fly for instance, without having loss of any messages between rsyslog clients and server.
[10:51] <ogra> jsbach, it might listen to "kill -HUP" ...
[10:53] <ravage> ogra, that is deprecated. did the same as restart anyway :)
[10:53] <ravage> https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v4compatibility.html
[10:53] <jsbach> ravage, anywhere documented that is deprecated?
[10:53] <jsbach> o thanks
[10:54] <ogra> ravage, bah, lame 🙂
[10:55]  * ogra has admittedly not used rsyslog since 2016, else i might have noticed that change ...
[11:01] <gneeriiloeepdeer> can you suggest a good walk through to install anbox?
[11:01] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I found this from 2019 https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-anbox-and-run-android-apps-in-linux still valid?
[11:03] <ravage> i never tried it but "sudo snap install anbox" may be easier
[11:03] <ravage> that was not updates since 2020 though
[11:04] <gneeriiloeepdeer> anbox is installed and an icon appeared in the gui. However, I load it and it closes
[11:04] <ravage> oh there is an automatic git build
[11:04] <ravage> maybe try the edge channel
[11:08] <ogra> anbox relies very closely on kernel features that IIRC have been changed/dropped in 5.15 or so
[11:08] <ogra> (ashmem and binder modules)
[11:10] <ravage> Androidx86 may be an alternaive
[11:13] <quick> hi
[11:25] <Guest84> Hello my friends. I'm looking for help with a problem on my ubuntu, if anyone is willing and able: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2480500&p=14117718#post14117718.
[11:43] <jelly> hi, are patches for openssl 3.0.x going to appear in jammy-security today right after upstream disclosure, or some day(s) later?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> jelly: <xx> alkisg1: yes, 22.04 has openssl3, which will receive the update
[11:48] <xx> that's not really the answer they are looking for
[11:48] <xx> yes, the update will come, but no idea when
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> we have #ubuntu-release where packages showup for release
[11:57] <ogra> well, "for upload" ...
[11:58] <ravage> just wait. they will not hack your servers within 2 hours
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> shhh :p
[12:01] <jelly> lotuspsychje, that does not answer my question, which was "when"
[12:02] <ravage> "when" its done
[12:02] <jelly> ravage, it's likely already done and ready.
[12:02] <jelly> that's how embargos work.
[12:02] <ravage> "when" it happens
[12:02] <jelly> when is a matter of policy
[12:02] <ravage> if you prefer that
[12:03] <jelly> if you don't know, you don't have to comment.  My question was very specific.
[12:04] <ravage> the actual release has not even happened yet. expect the patches for all major linux dists shortly after that. there is no specific release time
[12:06] <jelly> ravage, that's not how high profile security issues are handled.  OS, distro and appliance vendors' security teams have advance knowledge of patches, they prepare and test fixes in private and synchronize their releases to upstream.
[12:07] <laerling> Hello. Does anyone have an idea, why Ubuntu 22.10 live keeps contacting googleusercontent.com every now and then?
[12:08] <ravage> laerling, probably because you open a website that loads content from there
[12:08] <laerling> Sorry, forgot to mention: There is no browser open and no firefox process running, I made sure.
[12:08] <laerling> Only things I have open are terminal with tcpdump and the systems process monitor
[12:09] <ravage> probably connectivity-check.ubuntu.com
[12:10] <gneeriiloeepdeer> can you help me find anyone to help me fixing an anbox problem? nobody answers in their channel
[12:10] <ravage> gneeriiloeepdeer, see our messages above
[12:11] <laerling> ravage: I thought that too, but the two aren't contacted at the same time or right after another, but at different intervals.
[12:12] <gneeriiloeepdeer> a mostly helpful answer
[12:12] <ravage> well. take "mostly helpful" or no answer at al in the other channel. your choice :)
[12:16] <tobikoch> Hi! Is there a way to change which compression method dpkg-deb uses per default?
[12:22] <ravage> tobikoch, it should work as an option in your rules file
[12:22] <ravage> override_dh_builddeb:
[12:22] <ravage>     dh_builddeb -- -Zgzip
[12:23] <tobikoch> ravage: it'd be great if I could do it centrally and not update all my source packages, which I build across a bunch of Debian/Ubuntu versions.
[12:23] <ravage> or build a wrapper script that adds -Zgzip and add it to your local path
[12:23] <tobikoch> Hm, that´s a nifty idea.
[12:31] <Unit193> Depends on your build env, you could "hotpatch" dh_builddeb too. >_>
[12:51] <y_oaktzl> Hello IRC :D
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:52] <y_oaktzl> i have a request. can we call the new openssl vuln SSLURKER
[12:55] <y_oaktzl> abstentions are treated as silent consent
[13:20] <ogra> yokatzl, i fear no one of us has a say in that ... vulnerabilities are like unknown animals or comets ... the finder gets the honor to name it
[13:21] <leftyfb> ogra: they left
[13:21] <yokatzl> that is true, however, i cannot agree with this in this case
[13:21] <leftyfb> oh, maybe not
[13:21] <ogra> 😄
[13:28] <sarnold> feel free to try to call it whatever you like :) if you make a nice enough logo and theme song it might even catch on
[13:29] <arraybolt3> Of all the vuln names, I personally liked SHA1‾TERED the best (I tried to replicate the logo and did a bad job of it)
[13:29] <arraybolt3> Anyway, off-topic.
[13:52] <yokatzl> SSLurker logo: https://i.ibb.co/bBd1gY9/Microsoft-Teams-image-5.png
[13:53] <secure_> hello,. is there any lubuntu support chat ?
[13:53] <Habbie> !lubuntu
[13:54] <secure_> thankyou
[14:02] <arraybolt3> If someone runs "ubuntu-bug linux", will that automatically attach hardware info to the bug report?
[14:08] <sarnold> arraybolt3: yeah, it'll grab a bunch of the useful outputs
[14:08] <arraybolt3> sarnold: Thanks, that will help me give good instructions for helping someone with a kernel bug report (if they choose to report the bug).
[14:09] <sarnold> arraybolt3: yay :) it really is useful to have all that stuff available; even if 95% of it isn't useful, which 5% is useful changes from bug report to bug report :) hehe
[14:16] <tobikoch> ravage: that worked out great, thanks!
[14:17] <ravage> tobikoch, great :)
[14:18] <Guest49> any reason these arent upgraded but held: gir1.2-mutter-10, gnome-shell, gnome-shell-common, grub-efi-amd64-bin, grub-efi-amd64-signed, libmutter-10-0, mutter-common
[14:18] <Guest49> ?
[14:18] <ravage> !phasedupdates Guest49
[14:18] <arraybolt3> !phasedupdates | Guest49
[14:18] <ravage> thanks :P
[14:19] <Guest49> oh ok thanks
[14:24] <Guest49> Thoughts on IRQbalance? some people are saying i should remove it, but it comes auto with ubuntu?
[14:25] <sarnold> I have the impression that people that want to squeeze the last 5% performance out of their systems will do better to remove it; but it's not horrible to have it installed, and might prevent some larger performance problems by being present
[14:26] <sarnold> if you're prepared to balance your irqs for your workload, system architecture, etc, then go ahead and remove it; if you don't already steer your irqs and applications, feel free to ignore it entirely
[14:58] <cousteau> Hi, is there an easy way to arrange applications by category?  Other desktop environments have an application menu where apps are classified into different categories
[14:59] <cousteau> I really miss this, I think it was one of the cool things of Ubuntu (and Linux in general) - rather than dumping all the apps into the same box and "good luck locating your app", there was this category thing with like "office, network, development, multimedia..."
[15:01] <domhnall> cousteau: locating applications is easy using the search options in the application menu
[15:02] <cousteau> (in unrelated news, I also missed a lot the option to expand folders from within the list view in the file browser... just to realize this option wasn't removed, just disabled by default, and I'm so angry for no realizing until now)
[15:03] <cousteau> domhnall: perhaps (although rather slow specially when connected remotely with a slow remote desktop connection)... But I was more interested on the ability to DISCOVER installed applications
[15:03] <domhnall> cousteau: `dpkg -l`
[15:04] <cousteau> Like "oh, this freshly installed Ubuntu comes with a bunch of games and office applications", or "oh, the sys admin just installed Random Program X, cool!"
[15:05] <cousteau> It's actually one of the things that made me fall in love with Ubuntu, the neat organization of the desktop system (and the many useful apps installed by default)
[15:06] <cousteau> domhnall: that command doesn't display anything useful, to be honest
[15:06] <iomari891> greetings, whenever I copy in my terminal and paste, it pastes 2 copies. It doesn't do that in gui. It's  driving me crazy.
[15:07] <cousteau> Just an excessively verbose list of not only "applications" but also libraries, daemons, command line utilities, icon themes, desktop environments...
[15:07] <cousteau> iomari891: which terminal application?
[15:08] <cousteau> And how are you pasting?  Ctrl-V?  Ctrl-Shift-V?  Middle-click?  Right-click and "Paste"?
[15:10] <sarnold> shift+insert?
[15:10] <cousteau> Assuming you're using the "normal" Gnome Terminal (and not a tty or some other weird thing), copying with Ctrl-Shift-C and pasting with Ctrl-Shift-V should work
[15:11] <cousteau> Or Ctrl-Insert / Shift-Insert (these are the "vintage" shortcuts I always forget)
[15:12] <cousteau> Or simply selecting text, which will automatically copy it to the "primary buffer", and then paste it by middle-clicking
[15:13] <cousteau> I like that way of copy pasting, but it's a bit problematic sometimes, for example if you accidentally select something else in between
[15:16] <sarnold> back in the nineties, I switched to linux from windows because I preferred the x11 copy-and-paste behaviour :) it felt nicer to skip the explicit "copy" step
[15:18] <cousteau> I think there are programs for that in Windows... But you probably don't want to go installing random software that does weird stuff like that, specially in Windows
[15:19] <cousteau> But yeah I middle click a lot.  I even mapped middle click to two-finger tap and right click to three-finger because I use the former way more often
[15:19] <cousteau> To paste, open in new tab, close tab, close window...
[15:20] <iomari891> cousteau: all of them
[15:20] <cousteau> ("close window" is in xfce, you can tell it to make middle clicking a window button in the window list to close it)
[15:20] <cousteau> iomari891: weird
[15:21] <cousteau> And are you copying it from the terminal and pasting it to the terminal?
[15:21] <iomari891> cousteau: ctrl-v, mouse, rit-click
[15:21] <iomari891> right-click
[15:21] <iomari891> very
[15:21] <cousteau> Or copying it from some other application?
[15:21] <iomari891> if I paste in ut, all is well
[15:21] <iomari891> gui
[15:21] <iomari891> damn typos
[15:22] <sarnold> cousteau: yeah I tried a 'focus follows mouse' plugin for windows back in the day, it really didn't work great
[15:22] <cousteau> Do you have another app that may be interfering with your clipboard?
[15:22] <iomari891> no idea
[15:22] <cousteau> sarnold: I never enabled that, but the "focus but don't pop up windows when clicking on them" feature is quite nice
[15:23] <iomari891> I use clipto but it still misbehaves when I shut it down.
[15:24] <iomari891> interesting. Wen I paste in this chanel its ok.
[15:24] <lx3r> Hi.. Updated to 22.10 recently. My laptop power indicator never updates, it just stays on whatever it was during startup. As a result, it might show 100% charged, and suddenly shuts down, because in reality it was 0% .  Anyone else noticed this?
[15:25] <iomari891> also, when I paste in  terminal, it replaces the whole line.
[15:26] <cousteau> lx3r: I've had that happen before but I thought it was due to a faulty battery
[15:27] <lx3r> no, it is charging fine.  It is a new laptop.  and it worked just fine with 22.04.
[15:28] <cousteau> It feels more like an issue at a  hardware level than an app issue.  Like, the battery measuring hardware has malfunctioned.  Or at least I always assumed that.  I might be wrong.
[15:28] <cousteau> lx3r: does it ever change, or does it always stay at 100% no matter what?
[15:29] <lx3r> it shows the right value (top right corner) after startup.  So now it is 0% , and it stays like that until reboot.
[15:30] <nteodosio> lx3r, what is `cat /sys/class/power_supply/*/capacity`?
[15:30] <cousteau> domhnall: to be fair, opening the application launcher and selecting "All" does show a list of all installed desktop apps, which is closer to what I wanted than the dpkg -l thing, but still has some room for improvement IMO
[15:36] <sarnold> iomari891: I wonder if it's related to this newish feature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracketed-paste
[15:37] <lx3r> nteodosio  currently 0 .
[15:37] <iomari891> sarnold: I'll check it out ....
[15:38] <lx3r>  it is charging for some time, so it should probably be somewhat like 5%.
[15:38] <nteodosio> lx3r, so it's not a problem in the indicator. If you installed another one you'd have the same problem.
[15:39] <iomari891> sarnold: That doesn't seem to be the case for me.
[15:41] <Square> can i schedule suspension (power mgmt) in say 30 mins just as I can do with "shutdown" command?
[15:41] <lx3r> interestingly, the lightning indicator next to the battery does also not change (when I remove the cable).
[15:42] <sarnold> iomari891: aww dang
[15:44] <nteodosio> lx3r, then unambiguous: faulty hardware.
[16:03] <Tazy> Okay this is just getting weird, so if I tried to format this disk to ntfs, my intel upboard just goes offline from the network, ssh sessions disconnects, I don't see anything in journalctl
[16:03] <Tazy> and I have to reset it
[16:07] <cosmicrajiv> ravage?
[16:19] <cosmicrajiv> I am using ubuntu 22.04.1. yesterday when i update the kernel from 5.15.0-50 to 5.15.0-52, then after restarting i have already switched to wayland from xorg and my nvidia rtx 3050 card is not working.
[16:20] <cosmicrajiv> ravage had help me fix the problem but i forgot the command that he send. because i have to fix the problem in my other ubuntu system.
[16:20] <cosmicrajiv> can anyone help me fix the issue?
[16:21] <sarnold> Mon 31 15:26:43 < ravage> "sudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-520"
[16:21] <rob0> did you look in your shell history?
[16:21] <sarnold> Mon 31 15:33:32 < ravage> cosmicrajiv, now "sudo apt --reinstall install nvidia-dkms-515 nvidia-driver-515"
[16:21] <sarnold> those?
[16:21] <cosmicrajiv> sarnold, thanks
[16:27] <Tazy> cosmicrajiv, ravage?
[16:28] <cosmicrajiv> Tazy, "ravage" helped me yesterday.
[16:29] <Tazy> ooh
[16:29] <cosmicrajiv> anyone know why is this problem happening. is it happened with someone else here?
[16:32] <cosmicrajiv> this is also helping, "additional drivers>>switch to opensource driver>>switch back to the proprietary driver". i don't know why but this fixes the problem as well.
[17:04] <borked2022> could somebody help me send/recv an ubuntu rpool from one drive to another?
[17:04] <borked2022> 16:42 I installed 22.04 using zfs on root on a new drive in a different computer and the rpool I want to migrate is on an externally usb connected drive with unbootable ubuntu 22.04
[17:38] <jhutchins> !zfs
[17:40] <ThiefMaster> hi, any plans to provide updated ubuntu docker images that have the spooky-ssl vulnerability fixed?
[17:40] <ThiefMaster> (+today)
[17:42] <khadas> SHooulf
[17:42] <khadas> Should ?
[17:48] <tomreyn> hi khadas, what's your ubuntu question?
[18:14] <Lens> I've been reading about ubuntu pro. Does that apply to servers or is it desktop workstation oriented?
[18:20] <edward_> hi
[18:21] <ogra> Lens, cloud and desktop
[18:22] <Lens> I'll just use debian for servers then. Thanks ogra.
[18:22] <ogra> wel, it migh cover servers too ... given cloud images are just small servers anyway
[18:23] <ogra> it is just not prominently on https://ubuntu.com/pro
[18:25] <Lens> Eh, I like debian. Not so great as a desktop workstation, but excellent for servers.
[18:35] <jhutchins> I've been using Debian as my personal desktop for years.
[18:36] <jhutchins> Running XFCE, it mostly stays out of my way and lets me focus on what I'm doing rather than constantly tweaking the tools.
[19:59] <roltux> i was wondering is the new libssl package already relased to the mirrors for Ubuntu 22.04
[20:02] <murmel> roltux: if you have 3.0.2-0ubuntu1.7 then yes
[20:02] <murmel> or 3.0.5-2ubuntu2 for 22.10
[20:03] <roltux> well no i am still on verseion 1.6 but when i do an apt-get update it does not seem to find the new package
[20:03] <roltux> so thats why i was wondering if the update is already hit all mirrors
[20:04] <murmel> roltux: not all
[20:05] <murmel> if i remember correctly, mirrors are on a 6hr sync schedule, and not all of them are syncing at 6h
[20:05] <hggdh> roltux: version 1.6 of what package?
[20:07] <murmel> hm, just switched out the -security mirror to security.ubuntu.com and this definitely has the patch
[20:29] <roltux> hggdh libssl3 is already the newest version (3.0.2-0ubuntu1.6) i am waiting for the mirrors to be synced to upgrade my server
[20:29] <roltux> there should already be a 3.02-0ubuntu1.7 version
[20:30] <Habbie> libssl3/jammy-updates,jammy-security 3.0.2-0ubuntu1.7 amd64 [upgradable from: 3.0.2-0ubuntu1.6]
[20:30] <roltux> https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-5710-1 ,but that package is not yet available for my mirror
[20:30] <Habbie> is what i get from archive.ubuntu.com
[20:31] <roltux> yeah, my mirror is a bit slow i guess, i will wait an hour orso and  else i am going to switch to a different mirror
[20:32] <murmel> roltux: you can also just switch the -security mirror to the official one, so you get security updates faster
[20:35] <gordonjcp> has anyone got some ideas on how to troubleshoot glitchy unusable audio with a USB audio interface, that was last working about two days ago?
[20:35] <gordonjcp> the audio interface works perfectly on my laptop, which hasn't been updated since the weekend, it does not work on my desktop which has been updated
[20:36] <gordonjcp> one clue is that my laptop is running kernel 5.15.0-50-generic and my desktop is running 5.15.0-52-generic
[20:37] <murmel> gordonjcp: you can first try to reboot into the older kernel, to see if that makes a difference
[20:37] <gordonjcp> murmel: it does not
[20:37] <gordonjcp> the symptoms are exactly the same
[20:38] <murmel> gordonjcp: was anything upgraded from the audio stack? (see maybe in the logs)
[20:38] <gordonjcp> murmel: which logs in particular??
[20:38] <gordonjcp> -?
[20:39] <alkisg> Also try if the problem happens on another user account, to see if it's related to system or user settings
[20:39] <gordonjcp> alkisg: it is not
[20:40] <gordonjcp> it happens with all users
[20:40] <alkisg> You can see the upgraded packages in /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:42] <murmel> gordonjcp: /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:43] <gordonjcp> nothing really noticeable
[20:43] <gordonjcp> pulseaudio may have been upgraded
[20:44] <gordonjcp> it's okay, I'll just wipe the machine and reinstall
[20:44] <gordonjcp> and then just not let it update
[20:49] <gordonjcp> the desktop with broken audio also behaves similarly with a different USB audio interface
[20:49] <alkisg> You may downgrade pulseaudio with something like sudo apt install pulseaudio=1:15.99.1+dfsg1-1ubuntu1
[20:50] <alkisg> (if you're on 22.04)
[20:50] <alkisg> Then reboot, then see if that was the issue
[20:52] <gordonjcp> alkisg: it's the same version as on the laptop
[20:53] <alkisg> And if you upgrade the laptop, it will break? :D
[20:53] <murmel> gordonjcp: can you paste the last upgrade you did? I assume something is in there which mangled your audio
[20:54] <gordonjcp> alkisg: good question, not one I'm about to attempt right now
[20:54] <alkisg> You can type sudo apt full-upgrade on the laptop, and see which packages it's going to upgrade; and press Ctrl+C if you want, and focus on them for a possible downgrade to the desktop
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ah
[20:54] <gordonjcp> yeah that makes sense
[20:56] <gordonjcp> alsa-ucm-conf, various pipewire things (not sure if I'm using pipewire), libpulse0 aha
[20:56] <ioria> 22.04 uses pipewire
[20:57] <gordonjcp> does it still need that bloody awful pulse stuff then
[20:57] <ioria> yes; is pulseaudio running ?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> yes, unfortunately
[20:57] <ioria> have you tried to restart it ?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> yes, repeatedly
[20:58] <ioria> ok, i'am out then
[20:58] <gordonjcp> I'm not convinced it's pulse that's actually the problem, since on the odd occasion I can get pulse to stop long enough to grab the card directly the issue is still there
[21:03] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: check if you are actually using pulseaudio with 'pactl info' - look for Server Name
[21:04] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: yes, unfortunately I am using pulseaudio
[21:05] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: if you need direct access to hardware, you can run your player app via pasuspender like 'pasuspender -- speaker-test -t wav -c 2..'
[21:06] <gordonjcp> oky
[21:06] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: wanted to double-check if ServerName is actually pulseaudio (and not pulseaudio on pipewire, which is different story)
[21:06] <gordonjcp> so downgrading pulse to <blah>-1ubuntu1 has completely removed my desktop
[21:06] <gordonjcp> so that's good
[21:07] <gordonjcp> why on earth are we still saddled with pulse, it's such a steaming pile
[21:08] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: guess you need to verify this is not a hardware issue (also try plugging to usb port directly on the box, not via hub etc.)
[21:09] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: both interfaces work correctly on my laptop; neither interface works correctly on my desktop
[21:10] <gordonjcp> the desktop is now broken, because of trying to downgrade pulse, so all bets are off I guess
[21:10] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: you can get your desktop back and just disable pulseaudio if you like
[21:11] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: early ryzen desktops are known to have usb issues which usually are fixed with bios update
[21:11] <gordonjcp> it's not ryzen-based
[21:12] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: does speaker-test work correctly? what is the app you use to test directly?
[21:14] <gordonjcp> no
[21:14] <gordonjcp> nothing works correctly
[21:14] <gordonjcp> anything that generates a sound produces glitchy clicky audio
[21:14] <gordonjcp> it's like really really severe xruns
[21:15] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: last time I have seen this was with severely overheated box which constantly throttled; check your dmesg just in case
[21:15] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: if speaker-test using alsa directly is also producing glitches this is definitely not a pulseaudio issue
[21:16] <gordonjcp> no, it's not overheated, no it is not throttled
[21:17] <gordonjcp> no, I already said I wasn't convinced it was a pulseaudio issue
[21:17] <gordonjcp> pulseaudio is causing enough issues, but this doesn't appear to be it
[21:19] <cbreak> 22.10 uses something else instead of pulse
[21:20] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: ok so tracing this down could be really tricky; do you have wifi on the desktop?
[21:21] <sweater> Hello, sorry for asking a question that has been probably asked many times here, but do we have an ETA on the openssl patch?
[21:21] <gordonjcp> hm, thaat's interesting
[21:21] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: no, I don't use wifi anywhere
[21:21] <sweater> Openssl people said that the window is 16:00 - 18:00 UTC (IIRC), I expected it to land not later than 20:00 UTC.
[21:21] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: it has wired ethernet
[21:22] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: interestingly, now that X is broken alsa playback seems fixed
[21:22] <gordonjcp> so
[21:22] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: not even installed on the desktop but unused?
[21:22] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: nope, it physically does not have wifi
[21:22] <murmel> sweater: it's already out
[21:22] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: also bear in mind as I said already it was working at the weekend, I've gone to record some audio today and now it is not working
[21:24] <murmel> sweater: 3.0.5-2ubuntu2 for 22.10 and 3.0.2-0ubuntu1.7 for 22.04
[21:24] <sweater> murmel: what do I have to put in sources.list for 20.04?
[21:24] <sweater> patch manually for the time being?
[21:25] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: thats interesting; you can run pulseaudio now, and verify that speaker-test via pulseaudio still works correctly (or not)
[21:26] <murmel> sweater: 20.04 is not affected
[21:26] <sweater> Wow thank you!
[21:26] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: pulseaudio segfaults
[21:26] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: but it does also seem to be working
[21:26] <murmel> and btw as long as you have the default repos, you would get the patch anyway
[21:26] <sweater> Sorry for asking stupid questions.
[21:26] <sweater> I do, yeah, I made a drill yesterday
[21:26] <gordonjcp> sweater: the only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask
[21:27] <murmel> sweater: it's not a stupid question, but next time you can check for yourself :) https://ubuntu.com/security/cves
[21:27] <sweater> Enumerated all the servers, made sure that I can roll out at the same time
[21:27] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: well if you forced downgrade I cannot guess what happens but if you share the backtrace I could look into that
[21:27] <sweater> ty
[21:27] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: it's kind of working but I think I'm going to get this now terribly late voiceover recorded and cut, and then wipe and reinstall
[21:27] <sweater> Yeah, this one was a bit weird because there wasn't a CVE
[21:27] <sweater> Until today, I guess.
[21:27] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: I'm way way way behind on some work, and I've wasted a lot of time because of pulse today
[21:27] <sweater> So my strategy was to brute force `apt update && apt upgrade` :)
[21:28] <sweater> I should've checked CVEs, but the hype was so big, I didn't expect that the answer will be "unaffected"
[21:28] <sweater> Thanks so much!
[21:31] <i-garrison> gordonjcp: I'm a bit interested in the root cause, but if you do not have time to dig into that I hope the issue won't persist after reinstall
[21:31] <gordonjcp> i-garrison: murmel: thanks for all the help
[21:32] <myrti> Hi, I recently upgraded to kubuntu 22.04 and now my tlp settings seem to no longer be respected. In particular I'm trying to set a maximum battery charge of 80%, which seems to be recognized by the system but not applied. The power applet says the maximum charge should be 80% but the battery is always charged to 99%: https://i.imgur.com/kPclXhO.png If I look at the tlp-stat it's a similar picture: https://pastebin.com/zbckhefk How do I get
[21:32] <myrti> it to honor the settings in tlp?
[21:39] <Guest6026> Hey guys, I don't know if this is the right place to ask this or not, so please lmk if this is out of place. I'm running 20.04 on a AMD VPS, I'm trying to harden to CIS and US DISA STIG specifications using the Ubuntu Security Guide tool. The CIS fix works just fine, but when I run the DISA STIG fix somehow my password gets changed and I get locked out of root on my machine. I've tried using
[21:39] <Guest6026> a tailoring file to remove any password changes (also the smartcard requirement) but it still gets changed. Any ideas?
[21:47] <gordonjcp> nope
[21:47] <gordonjcp> audio's gone again
[21:48] <gordonjcp> also, upgrading the laptop has now broken USB audio in exactly the same way
[21:48] <gordonjcp> so it looks like Ubuntu no longer supports USB audio
[21:49] <ogra> yeah, it's a conspiracy against the monpolism of the USB manufacturers !
[21:50] <tomreyn> Guest6026: i assume you would usually want to apply one of these specifications, not both.
[21:53] <tomreyn> Guest6026: those are not "fixes", but rather conformity specifications, and the tool is meant to apply (one of) them. you can certainly have a well hardened system without applying these specific defaults.
[21:56]  * brkcore I can't find any indicator applet to show IP connection. How difficult is it to create one? anyone can give me an idea what to start read?
[21:56] <tomreyn> Guest6026: generally, for the commercial tooling Canonical provides as part of subscriptions (such as the USG tool) you may want to seek support with Canonical directly, since the community here may not be using them as much (that's if you have a support entitlement).
[21:56] <murmel> brkcore: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Extensions
[21:58] <jhutchins> Guest6026: What's your requirement?
[21:58] <c_89> Hi, why nut does not run the `NOTIFYCMD ....` command? I tried to simulate shutdown with `sudo upsdrvctl -t shutdown`
[21:59] <brkcore> murmel, thank you.
[22:01] <Guest6026> tomreyn: Ah, for some reason I always thought they could be combined haha. Also thanks for clearing up the "fixes" part. I'm currently using the "free machines" of Ubuntu Pro, I'm not sure if I'd be able to get support or not.
[22:04] <Guest6026> jhutchins: Nothing really, I'm just experimenting with the tools I have to see how secure I can get a server. I'm still in highschool and pushing for CompTIA certifications, so I'm just messing around with different systems to see what I can do both through automation (like USG and Anisible) and manually.
[22:04] <tomreyn> Guest6026: https://ubuntu.com/pro says that "optional support" is available.
[22:04] <murmel> Guest6026: the free machines part has no support
[22:05] <jhutchins> Guest6026: Remember that the most secure system is one that's disconnected.  From the power supply.
[22:07] <Jeremy31> Only after smashing the HDD with a hammer
[22:11] <Guest6026> tomreyn: I'm not able to find the optional support, was it on ubuntu.com/pro or somewhere in the account section? I'm probably just blind here haha
[22:15] <Guest6026> jhutchins: Haha of course, part of my challenge though is going for both security and convenience, the hardened server (once completed and running for more than a day) will be running a self hosted (also hardened) Vaultwarden and VPN server. Though this is just for fun, all my actual passwords on hosted though KeePassXC, with REALLY important ones on a Qubes instance :)
[22:16] <tomreyn> Guest6026: i wouldn not know, but assume you're not elegible for optional commercial support while you're using the free tier.
[22:18] <Guest6026> tomreyn: I agree, thanks though :D
[22:18] <Peter420> I have formatted my computer and installed ubuntu. Is it possible to know what other ubuntu versions were installed in the past somehow???
[22:20] <ravage> Peter420, probably not
[22:21] <Peter420> alright! I'm downgrading because of a hardware bug with the latest stable reason. Should I report it somehow - to help make ubuntu better? Where exactly?
[22:21] <ravage> !bug | Peter420
[22:22] <ravage> the package for a hardware bug is probably your kernel package
[22:22] <ravage> but without details im not sure
[22:24] <Peter420> ravage: it seems bug reporting is way out of my league for now, I'm only a beginner. I have tried to get help both here and on ubuntu official forums, but now I don't have no time left for this, unfortunatelly, and will have to downgrade instead of trying to fix it or properly reporting it. Thanks a lot anyhow mate, have a good night/day :)
[22:25] <ravage> Peter420, ok. take care
[22:29] <Peter420> ravage: you too ;)
[22:30] <kannon> Hi how would I boot without a desktop on 20.04.3. I just want to disable desktop and start a session with a terminal only. This tutorial was followed closely, but the desktops boots: https://www.jamescoyle.net/how-to/2005-start-ubuntu-without-starting-the-gnome-desktop-text-mode
[22:31] <kannon> the idea was to turn my laptop into a headless server (with the desktop merely disabled and not removed)
[22:33] <Jeremy31> kannon: maybe https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/05/boot-ubuntu-20-04-command-console/
[22:33] <ravage> kannon, systemctl get-default
[22:33] <ravage> should output graphical. to switch to text do: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[22:34] <kannon> thanks Jeremy31 / ravage hey ravage is there a typo in your post?
[22:34] <kannon> "get-default"
[22:34] <ravage> no
[22:35] <kannon> sorry what do you mean by output?
[22:35] <ravage> print on your screen
[22:36] <kannon> ok I see. no need to mess with grub config then?
[22:36] <ravage> right
[22:39] <kannon> ravage thanks , before I try it, will that give the system terminal or just a sort of rescue mode?
[22:39] <ravage> terminal login
[22:40] <kannon> thanks, so whatever terminal is default on system (I guess it's xterm?)
[22:40] <ravage> you asked about headless server
[22:40] <ravage> there is no xterm
[22:41] <ravage> you get a text login
[22:41] <robertparkerx> Would someone mind helping me with the screen command? I understand to list all screens available is screen -ls. How do you switch to a screen that's active that you found by using this command? Also how do you close a screen that you no longer wish to use anymore?
[22:41] <kannon> yeah thanks, so then systemctl get-default will restore the desktop.
[22:41] <kannon> ravage ^
[22:41] <ravage> no that shows the current default
[22:42] <ravage> "sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target" will boot to desktop again
[22:42] <kannon> how to quickly restore desktop from cli? just experimenting here.... ravage
[22:42] <rob0> robertparkerx: try ^A? (control-A, ?) for a summary of commands inside screen
[22:43] <rob0> and I think there is a #screen channel (used to be, anyway)
[22:44] <kannon> oh just saw your post showing how. thanks kindly savage
[22:44] <rob0> ^A3 (control-A, 3) will change you to the window number 3
[22:45] <TomyWork> I have an ubuntu 22.04 autoinstall stuck after "Reached target Host and Network Name Lookups". Is there a way to get a shell on the console at that point so I can inspect the situation on the machine?
[22:45] <rob0> ^AK or ^Ak is to kill the current window. But exiting the command or shell is another way.
[22:49] <faLUKE> hello. I can't select a language for text spelling in libreoffice. How can I fix this?
[22:50] <TomyWork> what have you tried?
[22:50] <TomyWork> faLUKE, ^
[22:50] <faLUKE> TomyWork: I just opened the tools-->spelling tab
[22:51] <TomyWork> in writer, i assume?
[22:51] <faLUKE> TomyWork: yes
[22:52] <TomyWork> I'm not sure that's where you set it
[22:52] <faLUKE> TomyWork: it's indeed a bug. But I dunno how to work around it
[22:52] <TomyWork> iirc, language is set for specific runs, not on an application-wide setting
[22:53] <TomyWork> for me, it selects the language by itself once it hits a spot where it sees something wrong
[22:53] <faLUKE> TomyWork: I can't do spelling at all
[22:54] <TomyWork> faLUKE, tools -> language
[22:54] <TomyWork> that's where you set the language
[22:55] <faLUKE> TomyWork: I don't see any "available language modules" in that tab
[22:55] <TomyWork> that's not a tab
[22:55] <TomyWork> that's a menu
[22:55] <faLUKE> in that menu
[22:56] <TomyWork> can you post a screenshot?
[22:56] <faLUKE> TomyWork: please tell me with submenu should I screenshot
[22:56] <faLUKE> which
[22:57] <TomyWork> the one you were referring to
[22:58] <bodhi> hello
[23:04] <kannon> so with help here I can boot with the desktop disabled. what about a script that would boot with only a proper terminal? I noticed the keyboard is super sensitive during login
[23:04] <kannon> (now in multi-user mode)
[23:06] <faLUKE> TomyWork: I solved by installing hunspell-en-gb with apt
[23:06] <kannon> sorry disregard above query. must step away... thanks
[23:07] <TomyWork> faLUKE, odd, should be aspell, but cool
[23:07] <TomyWork> according to stackoverflow anyway :D
[23:08] <TomyWork> guess it changed since that was written
[23:11] <TomyWork> faLUKE, installing aspell in your preferred language is probably a good idea as well, though GB and US are the same package there, so if you already have US english, you will have british english as well
[23:11] <TomyWork> you know, so you dont have to solve the same issue in the next application :)
[23:12] <faLUKE> TomyWork: anyway, it's weird
[23:14] <TomyWork> yeah i cant get it to recognize the german i just installed...
[23:46] <nik0n> Has anyone ever connected a rp2040 micro controller device (arduino) to their pc? Mines not mounting.
[23:48] <nik0n> Im trying to program a KB2040.
[23:49] <leftyfb> nik0n: you might try #raspberrypi
[23:52] <nik0n> thx
[23:52] <tomreyn> i wouldn't expect that it's supposed to "mount"
[23:56] <nik0n> you dont have to compile and upload via an IDE like an arduino...it should be visible in a file manager


[13:56] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Security:: Episode 169 @ https://ubuntusecuritypodcast.org/episode-169/


[02:40] <bkerensa> jcastro: I sent you the email about the cloud.. so hopefully someone can sort it
[06:59] <dholbach> good morning
[11:07] <s-fox> o/
[11:43] <hobgoblin> bkerensa: ping
[11:49] <czajkowski> hobgoblin: it might be very quiet today with it being a national holiday
[11:50] <hobgoblin> oh right - cheers czajkowski
[13:11] <cjohnston> mornin
[14:25] <czajkowski> dholbach: re quickly apps we're getting a lot of questions in launchpad from people taking part in this contest, is there a better support channel for them to go to ?
[14:25] <dholbach> yes
[14:26] <dholbach> http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask?tags=application-development
[14:26] <czajkowski> dholbach: thanks
[14:26] <czajkowski> users with a lot of quickly issues and as they are using LP for other work they're coming to us which isn't much use
[16:09] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[17:56] <s-fox> Hi