[00:00] <pfifo> wolfspy_: im thinking its lack of sata cdrom drivers then, since you can boot other livecds, what is the name of the iso?
[00:00] <duhamel> wildwind: autorun.inf doesn't work in linux. but thankyou.
[00:01] <ikonia> Cheekio: you've got many lines of text, could you please just summerise
[00:01] <zeehero> Alright, hey everyone got a bit of a question if anyone could help or direct me to where it would be best to go.
[00:01] <wolfspy_> pfifo:ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:01] <gordonjcp> !ask | zeehero
[00:01] <zykotick9> ikonia: if Cheekio is on a pi, this is NOT ubuntu.  please don't encourage them.
[00:02] <pfifo> wolfspy_: can you get the 32bit version to work?
[00:02] <ikonia> zykotick9: well, we'll find out when he explains the quesiton
[00:02] <wolfspy_> pfifo: should I try?
[00:02] <Cheekio> ikonia, I'm tryign to use my laptop (ubuntu) to spit out ip addressesd when machines connect to it.
[00:02] <wolfspy_> pfifo: Ill have to burn another cd
[00:02] <ikonia> Cheekio: connects to it ? how can it connect to it without an IP
[00:02] <pfifo> wolfspy_: it has a different kernel with different modules so it will likely work
[00:02] <gordonjcp> Cheekio: install dnsmasq then
[00:03] <Cheekio> Plug a device into the ethernet port
[00:03] <Cheekio> and assign it an IP address
[00:03] <ikonia> Cheekio: setup a dhcp server then
[00:03] <Cheekio> I'm going through the man pages of dnsmasq now
[00:03] <wolfspy_> pfifo: would it work with Ubuntu 12?
[00:03] <ikonia> Cheekio: then the client machine will send out a request when the link is detected.
[00:03] <gordonjcp> Cheekio: be aware that if there are any other DHCP servers on the network, such as your broadband router, installing dnsmasq on your laptop will make things very very unhappy
[00:03] <zeehero> Simple enough - I'm trying to access Gimp 2.8 since I just installed it through the terminal. When I try to use the Unity dock it doesn't seem to have updated the application link for gimp and seems to attempt to load the old (now removed) Gimp 2.6, and using the terminal to access gimp just results in a version of gimpshop I had installed through a deb package and don't know how to remove it - so I'm unsure of how to access Gimp 2.8 in all this
[00:03] <zeehero> mess.
[00:04] <Cheekio> gordonjcp: understood, I'll be careful about that.
[00:04] <Jordan_U> zeehero: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and how did you install Gimp 2.8?
[00:05] <zeehero> Version 12.04, through apt-get install in the terminal
[00:05] <gordonjcp> Cheekio: you may be able to limit it to a particular interface
[00:05] <pfifo> wolfspy_: check your bios settings and see if you can change the cdroms mode from ide to ahci
[00:06] <duhamel> zeehero: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get  update && sudo apt-get autoclean
[00:07] <wolfspy_> pfifo: is that the sata controller working mode?
[00:07] <zeehero> duhamel: what are the differences between upgrade and update - is upgrade for apt-get itself?
[00:07] <pfifo> wolfspy_: yeah
[00:07] <FroggestSpirit> Suspend works the first time when i boot ubuntu and close the lid. then after logging back in after opening the lid, my fan goes silent, and then goes full blast after a minute, and closing the lid doesnt suspend anymore until i reboot
[00:08] <wolfspy_> pfifo: from ahci to compatible?
[00:09] <duhamel> zeehero: update tells the machine to update its archives so it can see what packages it has and if any upgrades are available. upgrade has the machine dowbload and install upgrade packages.
[00:09] <jimgroth> So I want to have access to one folder on my ubuntu server from my windows machine. Is samba they way to go?
[00:09] <wolfspy_> pfifo: compactble says serial ata controller operates in ide mode
[00:10] <pfifo> wolfspy_: it seems you want it on ahci, but if it was there to begin with try the other option once. (dont forget to change it back later on)
[00:10] <zeehero> duhamel, thank you for exmplaining. I'm guessing that autoclean is to sort everything out with the packages after both process?
[00:10] <Hai_Karate> My 13.10 connects to wireless instantly,,, but my 13.10  'command line' install on another partition takes about 4 minutes when running dhclient -v wlan0. It does connect but takes forever. Any ideas?
[00:10] <duhamel> it cleans unneeded packages.
[00:11] <zeehero> duhamel, watching that terminal scroll makes me feel like I probably should have done this a year ago
[00:11] <wolfspy_> pfifo: it worked!
[00:11] <pfifo> wolfspy_: brb, need togoto store
[00:11] <duhamel> zeehero: after that try: sudo apt-get install deborphan && sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge
[00:11] <wolfspy_> pfifo: OK thanks
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, You can run the 13.10 in cli why not just do that?
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> the one with a desktop
[00:12] <duhamel> zeehero: that will clean all orphaned deb packages.
[00:12] <zeehero> Alright
[00:12] <zeehero> What counts as an orphaned deb file?
[00:13] <Hai_Karate> not sure what ya mean
[00:13] <duhamel> hopefully that will help if it's conflicting with old versions.
[00:13] <zykotick9> Hai_Karate: (don't reply to me!) but 1) what are you using to connect in your "command line" install?  N-M, wicd, interfaces?  2) try interfaces.  good luck.
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, You can use the 13.10 without the desktop, what is the end goal with having 2 installs one with a desktop one without?
[00:13] <zeehero> Sheesh that's still going, I'll  be back in a bit when I've done those instructions and see if that solves the issue - could be here a while with this upgrade.
[00:14] <tant0c1b0> Is it normal having undeletable unallocated space in the partition table?
[00:14] <FroggestSpirit> Suspend works the first time when i boot ubuntu and close the lid. then after logging back in after opening the lid, my fan goes silent, and then goes full blast after a minute, and closing the lid doesnt suspend anymore until i reboot
[00:14] <Hai_Karate> Tolearn
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, I guess I assume the command line install is a cli only am I correct?
[00:14] <tant0c1b0> (I have two ntfs partitions related to Windows 7 and I am now creating 1 ext4 and one swap for gentoo)
[00:14] <Hai_Karate> yes
[00:15] <zeehero> duhamel, thank you for your help
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> Hai_Karate, Ah, to learn, how dare you, ;) not sure of an answer sorry.
[00:15] <Hai_Karate> dhclient wlan0 DOES connect but takes way longer than the 'desktop' version
[00:16] <tant0c1b0> Is it normal having unallocated unavoidable unallocated space when creating an ext4 partition?
[00:16] <Hai_Karate> I've been messing around with it for a week. Its not that big of a deal but was just wondering
[00:17] <duhamel> zeehero: i hope that helps, if nothing else it will free up a little room on your machine.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, Ah between partitions?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> or at the end of the hd
[00:18] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: I have, starting from the left: ntfs (windows boot), ntfs (windows system), ext4 (gentoo), swap (gentoo swap, and the unallocated space
[00:18]  * zykotick9 notes, or the beginning of hd
[00:18] <monokrome> Does anyone know how to get wifi for the `Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0` in a retina macbook pro working in the Ubuntu installer?
[00:19] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: I don't know why, when creating such partitions (ext4 and swap) I get that space..
[00:19] <zykotick9> !broadcom
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, It does happen, my assumption is that that it has to do with the partitioner having to square off a distance that is allowed, and the extra space does not fit that schema.
[00:19] <monokrome> I already know how to use firmware cutter and all, I'm just astonished that the Ubuntu installer wouldn't have drivers for it
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> heh rather vague answer but it's a guess
[00:20] <jianmeng> My ubuntu can't boot after upgrade to 13.10. After display ubuntu logo, screen show fontconfig may not work. Some chinese font can't configure properly.
[00:20] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: ok, I simply apply changes, then ;) thanks for the help
[00:21] <jianmeng> does anyone meet similar problem?
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, Yeah you can move the partition size around and get it to work in general.
[00:22] <pfifo> i guess wolfspy's issue is closed
[00:23] <tant0c1b0> wilee-nilee: You mean: extending a 'near' partition to include it?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, Sort of, generally you can't it is already at its limited squared off size per the partitioner's smallest measurements, but you can resize others on the hd to have the one leaving a space be a different size and take up that space. I may be that a cli partitioning method bypasses this. It really comes down to what ever tool your using has a smallest distance of bits measured.
[00:27] <andrerics> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 13.10 along with Windows 8.1 and GRUB is not appearing at initialization. Can you help me?
[00:27] <MiddleRoad> I have Squid installed on my Ubuntu VPS, would I be able to install ruTorrent as well without interference?
[00:28] <jparr> MiddleRoad: probably, but your VPS provider likely won't be very happy with you
[00:28] <MiddleRoad> oh right, I was concerned abotu that. Do you think it'd be a problem if I limited the bandwidth?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> tant0c1b0, A simpler abstract explanation is you can't measure a atom with a foot long ruler.
[00:29] <pfifo> tant0c1b0: how much unpartitioned space are we talking about here?
[00:29] <pfifo> 8mb
[00:29] <MiddleRoad> jparr: + thanks for your answer!
[00:31] <wildwind> MiddleRoad: it could be a problem if you download/seed something illegal, regardless of bandwidth used
[00:31] <MiddleRoad> oh I see
[00:31] <pfifo> MiddleRoad: jparr my vps host lets me use torrents, after all i did buy the bandwidth
[00:33] <pfifo> dmca violatians arent an issue for my stuff though so could be different for you MiddleRoad
[00:33] <tpw_rules> i'm having a weird problem with removeable storage. I plug in my flash drive, the icon shows up, i click on it, and it tells me i am not authorized to mount it. it didn't do this before i just updated all installed packages
[00:34] <MiddleRoad> Ah right, I wouldn't have a problem with them either
[00:34] <theolaz> Hi
[00:34] <pfifo> tpw_rules: this happended to me when i mounted it as user1, then logged out, logged in as user2, and clicked on my icon. a reboot should fix it if its the same problem.
[00:35] <tpw_rules> okay, i'll try that
[00:35] <utusan> tpw_rules: you might try installing  policykit-desktop-privileges
[00:35] <tpw_rules> well we're rebooting now, let's see what happens
[00:35] <jimgroth> What's the easiest way to share a folder on my ubuntu server 13.04 with my windows 8?
[00:35] <pfifo> MiddleRoad: but rutorrent and squid should not interfere with eachother.
[00:35] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee fix the problem thanks alot ;)
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[00:36] <Kuwait> ;)
[00:36] <tpw_rules> jimgroth: right-click, properties, then there should be a sharing tab
[00:36] <pfifo> jimgroth: if you already have httpd installed add a symlink in /var/www
[00:36] <tpw_rules> why would you do that?
[00:37] <jimgroth> tpw_rules, ubuntu server. No GUI.
[00:37] <tpw_rules> oh, du
[00:37]  * tpw_rules runs his server with the desktop OS
[00:37] <tpw_rules> utahcon: that's already installed and at the latest version, it claims
[00:37] <jimgroth> pfifo, I don't understand. What does httpd and symlinks have to do with sharing folders?
[00:38] <tpw_rules> he's saying set it up as an http server like the apache directory list
[00:38] <pfifo> jimgroth: its only one direction though, if you need to read and write files from win8, then youll need samba
[00:39] <Danato> how would i execute a file in a different location? such as /home/username/
[00:39] <jimgroth> Ah. Sorry, was unclear.
[00:39] <jimgroth> Yes, I do need read/write.
[00:39] <pfifo> samba
[00:39] <Danato> or /home/username/Desktop
[00:39] <jimgroth> Thanks.  :P
[00:39] <bekks> Danato: Like that. /home/username/Desktop/shiny.script
[00:39] <jimgroth> Haven't gotten my brain wrapped around samba yet.
[00:39] <jimgroth> Got any tips for good guides on samba?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> !samba
[00:39] <tpw_rules> blarg, it's saying i don't ahve any permission to read things off the flash drive
[00:40] <tant0c1b0> pfifo:  ~500MB, solved, though
[00:40] <pfifo> jimgroth: realize smbpasswd and passwd are 2 different programs.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> jimgroth, check the bots info if you have not already.
[00:40] <jimgroth> I'll read those guides.
[00:40] <jimgroth> pfifo, Thanks. I know but it still confuses me. :P
[00:40] <Danato> bekks: thanks
[00:41] <ResQue> what does the noexe paramter do, also where can i find a list of avalible boot paramaters?
[00:41] <pfifo> jimgroth: the best solutuion here is to simply format win 8 and install ubuntu there as well
[00:41] <jimgroth> Yea, wish I could do that.
[00:41] <tpw_rules> pfifo: rebooting hasn't helped
[00:41] <zykotick9> ResQue: i'd bet you mean noexec ;)
[00:42] <ResQue> zykotick9: yes i do
[00:42] <jimgroth> I do video editing and I don't have time to learn something new on linux. I also doubt there is something that can replace after effects on linux.
[00:42] <pfifo> ResQue: noexec prevents files from being executed
[00:42] <pfifo> tpw_rules: what filesystem is on the usbstick?
[00:43] <tpw_rules> pfifo: hfs+
[00:43] <pfifo> tpw_rules: when you plug it in does it mount?
[00:43] <tpw_rules> no
[00:43] <tpw_rules> if i open a window in nautilus, i can see the volume in it
[00:43] <tpw_rules> but i have to go to the command line to sudo mount
[00:44] <zeehero> I've upgraded apt-get, updated, installed deborphan, ran it, uninstalled Gimp and there is STILL a gimp program left on my machine - how do I uninstall this program so I can properly install the right version/type?
[00:44] <pfifo> tpw_rules: ahh, the sudo mount part is preventing you from accessing it as a normal user
[00:44] <tpw_rules> oh
[00:44] <utusan> install  policykit-desktop-privileges
[00:44] <tpw_rules> i tried, it's already installed and at the latest version
[00:44] <zykotick9> ResQue: fyi, noexec means, nothing on that partition will be executable...
[00:46] <utusan> you might try running nautilus as root
[00:46] <tpw_rules> why would that be a good idea?
[00:46] <bekks> running nautilus as root is a bad idea.
[00:46] <zykotick9> "try running nautilus as root" <- HORRIBLE advise...
[00:46] <bekks> It isnt necessary at all.
[00:46] <pfifo> tpw_rules: or you could mount using the proper options to allow user access
[00:47] <tpw_rules> i'm not concerned about that at this point, i want it to mount automatically when plugged in/clicked on
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, Gimp is removed with a apt-get or from another package manager deborphan is designed for orphans and not really needed.
[00:48] <airstrike> hi. how can i remove the annoying messages ubuntu shows me whenever i ssh into it?
[00:49] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, I've tried removing it with apt-get and had no luck, the version I'm trying to remove was installed with a deb file through the software center, but I'm unsure how to uninstall it.
[00:49] <bekks> airstrike: Depends on the messages.
[00:49] <zykotick9> airstrike: what is "the annoying messages"?
[00:49] <dannymichel> I can't seem to find out where to change the middle of the progress bar.. any ideas? http://goo.gl/ksQH0J
[00:49] <pfifo> zeehero: `sudo dpkg --purge <package name>'
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, You want to be careful removing apps as well they may have dependencies that are crucial. Is this a gimp install from a ppa, it is in the stock install.
[00:50] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, I'm afraid I don't understand the distinction
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, I this a canonical ubuntu install?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> Is*
[00:51] <airstrike> bekks, zykotick9: cloud support and juju advertisement, particularly
[00:51] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, I don't believe so, it was a deb file I downloaded from the gimpshop website since I couldn't find it in the software center at the time
[00:51] <airstrike> ubuntu advantage cloud guest, even
[00:51] <ikonia> once again blindly installing extenral packages causes problems.
[00:51] <zykotick9> airstrike: really, ubuntu puts adversitments in it ssh message... wow!
[00:51] <ikonia> zykotick9: pretty sure it doesn't
[00:51] <ikonia> more likley a 3rd party bastardized install
[00:51] <zykotick9> ikonia: i wouldn't "think" so.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, Can you post the output from lsb_release -a
[00:52] <airstrike> it's an amazon EC2 instance
[00:52] <zeehero> No LSB modules are available.
[00:52] <zeehero> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[00:52] <zeehero> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[00:52] <zeehero> Release:	12.04
[00:52] <zeehero> Codename:	precise
[00:52] <FloodBot1> zeehero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <zykotick9> ikonia: see above, all is answered ;)
[00:52] <zeehero> right, didn't realize how this software handled the return character, give me a moment
[00:53] <zeehero> http://pastebin.com/mV5RuEkb
[00:53] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: use my trick to prevent floods, 'what is the output of lsb_release -sc'
[00:53] <kxtwo> Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place but was hoping some one could help me.  I need to connect to an IBM mainframe to reboot a virtual machine I use for class.  The problem is I am home and to connect to the machine I need to connect from school.  My teacher said that I need to establish a VPN tunnel via SSL.xxx.edu.   But I have no idea how to do this?
[00:53] <ikonia> kxtwo: are you using ubuntu ?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, Okay gimp was installed already in the stock install, another external install is a second one, probably another version. So you removed what with deborphan?
[00:54] <kxtwo> ikonia, yes
[00:54] <ikonia> kxtwo: so your question is "how do I connect to a vpn from an ubuntu client" ?
[00:54] <kxtwo> ikonia, I went to the ubuntu support pages but they tell you how to set up a tunnel between two machines you are root to but that does not work here.
[00:54] <airstrike> zykotick9: i'm not sure i follow
[00:54] <pfifo> ikonia: i bet your good at algebra
[00:54] <ikonia> !vpn | kxtwo
[00:54] <ikonia> pfifo: ?
[00:55] <zeehero> wilee-nilee, looks like it just handled a few things related to the globalmenu
[00:55] <kxtwo> he's good at something
[00:55] <pfifo> ikonia: simplifying problems
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, I think you will need a more experienced user here, sorry.
[00:55] <kxtwo> yah this doesnt help at all
[00:55] <ikonia> kxtwo: why doesn't it help ?
[00:56] <zeehero> unfortunate
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> zeehero, It's not a huge issue, but you should get the best help. ;)
[00:56] <alexturner> Hey all - just tried installing Ubuntu on a Powermac G5 (ppc) a few times and after install I'm booting straight into busy box with the error "gave up waiting for root device". Getting an alert "/dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx does not exist" Any ideas
[00:56] <alexturner> I've tried different HDD's, SATA and Firewire
[00:56] <zeehero> I honestly wish I knew more about the architecture of how ubuntu handles things, but I never quite know how to find the term for what I'm doing.
[00:57] <pfifo> zeehero: can you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l | grep gimp'
[00:57] <zykotick9> alexturner: try !=mac, and i'm sure you'll be fine...
[00:57] <alexturner> zykotick9: what do you mean?
[00:58] <zeehero> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/3eqYNnuq
[00:58] <alexturner> zykotick9: Telling me not to install on a max?
[00:58] <alexturner> *mac
[00:58] <airstrike> so, ideas on how to remove these messages?
[00:58] <ikonia> airstrike: probably in motd or issue file
[00:59] <ikonia> airstrike: look at the sshd_config for the banner file it's using
[00:59] <pfifo> zeehero: run this 'sudo dpkg -P gimp gimp-data gimp-help-common gimp-help-en gimpshop libgimp2.0'
[01:01] <airstrike> ikonia: /etc/sshd/sshd_config doesn't specify any banners; the line is commented out.
[01:01] <ikonia> airstrike: ok, so it will be issue or motd
[01:01] <airstrike> /etc/motd only has 'HI LOL', which i added
[01:01] <zeehero> alright finally gimpshop is gone, thank you pfifo
[01:01] <zykotick9> ikonia: don't forget issue.net
[01:01] <pfifo> zeehero: not yet
[01:02] <Shinobi> After attempting to hibernate, I can only boot by loading a previous kernel. LibCrypt is having issues. How do I go about fixing this?
[01:02] <zeehero> pfifo, alright
[01:02] <airstrike> /etc/issue = Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l, and /etc/issue.net = Ubuntu 13.10
[01:02] <pfifo> zeehero now you need to edit sources.list, delete any lines that refer to the PPA that you added for this gimpshop, then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:02] <airstrike> beats me.
[01:03] <kxtwo> yah this is doing nothing, I did it through the network manager and it never connects
[01:04] <pfifo> zeehero: sorry the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:04] <ikonia> kxtwo: you need to know what type of vpn you're connecting to, and make sure your client settings match
[01:04] <basil> Hi guys, is anyone able to assist with troubleshooting a connection to Ubuntu 12.04 from Win Xp via x11vnc?
[01:05] <induz> what is Ubuntu one and could it ne possible to collect my contacts from iPhone to Ubuntu machine
[01:06] <ikonia> induz: you've obviously heard of "ubuntu one" so maybe a basic internet search would give you a high level idea of what it is
[01:07] <pfifo> !one | induz
[01:07] <induz> is it free
[01:08] <kxtwo> ok apparently there is a web based way to do this through the schools site but it is failing due to java.  bleh
[01:08] <airstrike> ok, found it, ikonia, zykotick9. i had to comment the lines containing pam_motd in /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/sshd
[01:08] <pfifo> induz: yes, for basic services, there are paid services too
[01:08] <zykotick9> ikonia: i notice, it wasn't you, that sent the !ubuntuone factoid, but directing people to #ubuntuone is probably the best idea for people asking about it.
[01:10] <induz> i just need for transferring my iphone contacts to a PC
[01:10] <induz> i dont have itunes...iphone3 is no more active
[01:11] <zeehero> alright, couldn't find any lines for it in that file, the unity dock can't find gimp anymore, and updating it happening now - am I clear to install from apt-get the latest version of this software without fear of conflicts between other versions?
[01:12] <pfifo> zeehero: once you install gimp, check the output of 'dpkg -l | grep gimp' to see if its coming from a ppa
[01:20] <intrader> Anyone, I am having a problem with a blank screen (pure black) after resumes. I have found many reports and 'solved' bugs - but no solution. I installed 12.04.3 clean without loading updates while installing. Noticed the problem after the first normal update was updated.
[01:21] <xentity1x> Hi, anyone have experience with installing mupen64 emulator? It's saying I have unmet dependencies
[01:21] <zykotick9> xentity1x: i hope you really mean mupen64plus
[01:22] <Richhh> just tried to shutdown lubuntu for the first time, got   killing all remaining processes [fail] sda5_crypt (busy) [fail]   mount: / is busy      reboot: System halted
[01:22] <xentity1x> zykotick9, ha i do
[01:22] <xentity1x> zykotick9, here's the output http://pastebin.com/RwVf9rDe
[01:22] <zykotick9> xentity1x: sorry, i don't go to pastebin.com...
[01:23] <zykotick9> !paste | xentity1x
[01:23] <mathfreak_> What's wrong with pastebin.com?
[01:23] <xentity1x> zykotick9, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6429567/
[01:24] <zykotick9> mathfreak_: pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads.  Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
[01:24] <zykotick9> mathfreak_: that's dpkg's pastebin.com factoid
[01:24] <zeehero> interesting, considering the flood thing told me to use pastebin
[01:24] <mathfreak_> zykotick9: Ah I see. Thanks for the info.
[01:24] <induz> i have OneUbuntu account now...what app to download to get the iPhone contacts
[01:24] <xentity1x> zykotick9, i added the ppa but there's a package by the same name when i search packages.ubuntu.com. So I don't know where it's installing from.
[01:25] <zykotick9> xentity1x: if you use PPAs I have NO idea.  good luck.
[01:25] <Richhh> im guessing its ok and i can just switch it off?
[01:25] <Richhh> and use shutdown -h next time
[01:26] <Richhh> or -P
[01:26] <xentity1x> zykotick9, by which method do you have knowledge of?
[01:26] <zykotick9> xentity1x: on ubuntu - i don't.  sorry.  best of luck.
[01:27] <zeehero> alright, finally got the right version of GImp now, thank you all very much for your help
[01:27] <pfifo> use fpaste.org just to show the fedora guys what a real OS looks like
[01:28] <pfifo> Richhh: i want to say this stems from not having your fstab and cryptab setup properly
[01:29] <Richhh> ok
[01:30] <zykotick9> xentity1x: sidenote - i have 2 actual N64 controllers connected to my non-free box, with mupen64plus it's f'n awesome ;)  best of luck.
[01:31] <Crimson_Rogue> hello. I'm running ubuntu 13.10. I'm having an issue with ubuntu one. it's hanging on "Getting information, please wait..." are there any fixes/patches for this?
[01:32] <zykotick9> Crimson_Rogue: you "might" want to try #ubuntuone
[01:32] <pfifo> Crimson_Rogue: #ubuntuone for ubuntu one support
[01:32] <xentity1x> zykotick9, thanks. I removed the ppa and it seems to install fine from the universe repository. Is htere any gui that you use?
[01:33] <Crimson_Rogue> thx zykotick9 and pfifo
[01:33] <zykotick9> xentity1x: to be honest, i don't use a GUI, as mupen is being called from advancemenu in my case...
[01:35]  * pfifo 's roommate found a n64 in the trash last month, it is even better than an emulator
[01:35] <zykotick9> xentity1x: FYI i use starfox (doing a loop) to test if the joystick is working correctly, usually isn't not.  you typically need to do an export for sdl beforehand...
[01:39] <basil> thanks guys....try again later
[01:39] <daftykins> basil - twins!
[01:41] <melow01> I'm looking for the source code to strlen in c. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[01:45] <pfifo> melow01: that would be part of libc
[01:46] <melow01> pfifo, thanks. does that live somewhere in the Ubuntu OS? /lib/ ?
[01:49] <pfifo> melow01: yes libc.so.6 is the binary file on my 64bit system /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 It should be part of string.h but (im not sure of this) it is likely written in assembly so the source code might be useless to you
[01:49] <melow01> pfifo, oh ok.. thanks again
[01:50] <bekks> pfifo: Technically, that nonsense :)
[01:50] <pfifo> bekks: not you again
[01:50] <bekks> pfifo: A compiled library is never "part of" a header. It is written in C, not in assembler.
[01:51] <bekks> pfifo: I am not sorry that its always me correcting your errors ;)
[01:51] <pinPoint> so anyone install apache 2.4.6 from ppa?
[01:51] <pfifo> well someone has to
[01:51] <melow01> pfifo, so are files appended with an asterisk, executable?
[01:52] <pfifo> libc is written in C, ok, like i said, not sure of this
[01:52] <bekks> melow01: Files having the permission to be executed are executable.
[01:52] <trism> melow01: in any case: apt-get source eglibc; it is in the string/strlen.c subdir
[01:52] <bekks> !find string.h
[01:52] <bekks> uh.
[01:52] <melow01> bekks, ok
[01:53] <lukas> am i allowed to base a distro off of ubuntu then reditrubutite it
[01:53] <reisio> lukas: yup
[01:53] <moppy> melow01, http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/
[01:53] <reisio> lukas: Ubuntu itself is based off Debian
[01:54] <lukas> oh good
[01:54] <melow01> trism, moppy thanks
[01:54] <lukas> thanks reisio
[01:54]  * pfifo is going to start making mistakes on purpose just to keep bekks busy
[01:54] <reisio> lukas: there are some things canonical owns, like the name 'ubuntu', probably, but you can do almost anything with almost anything else
[01:54] <moppy> melow01, curious why you want the source for strlen.
[01:55] <lukas> oh ok
[01:55] <reisio> lukas: and moreover, you won't get sued for giving free software away, people get sued for selling things, and only after they refuse to stop
[01:55] <melow01> moppy, on any normal day I wouldn't.... its homework for my C/C++ course :o)
[01:55] <moppy> melow01, interesting. i think it's a depreciated function too :)
[01:55] <Iseituser> I am having a problem with Ubuntu 13.10, does this happen very often?      I went from straight to Ubuntu 13.10 to Edbuntu 13.10, and all I did is install some aplications.      Did this happen anyone?      I installed some eductional apps and was wondering if this going to back the to original version after I get all this out?
[01:56] <moppy> melow01, although that might be in C++ not C
[01:56] <pfifo> melow01: go for extra credit and provide the source for strlen from newlib too
[01:56] <bekks> pfifo: I am starting to correct your statements randomly, deciding to correct or incorrect them ;)
[01:57] <melow01> moppy, hmmm... ok. I'm not too advanced yet
[01:57] <melow01> pfifo, My assignment is to make a program just like strlen. beyond that, I'm a little lost
[01:58] <Iseituser> Hello
[01:58] <pfifo> melow01: ohh, well, looking at the source for strlen is going to throw you off. You much better off rolling your own
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> bekks, It's not the IRC without a passive aggressive rush in correcting. ;)
[01:59] <bekks> wilee-nilee: :D
[01:59] <trism> melow01: definitely, there is a much easier way to do strlen than they do in libc, which looks at a whole bunch of bytes at once
[01:59] <melow01> pfifo, that's good to know. We just finished pointers and I'm still scratching my head a bit.
[01:59] <olf-folks> what would be a good ubuntu friendly channel for networking?
[02:00] <moppy> melow01: int strlen (const char * buffer) {int x=0; while (buffer[x] != '\0') ++x; return x;} ... very approximately
[02:00] <melow01> moppy, groovy, thanks
[02:00] <pfifo> olf-folks: networing as in tcp/ip is here, networking as in meeting people in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:01] <joossee> guys where does virt keep its logs?
[02:01] <pfifo> moppy: make it inline too
[02:01] <olf-folks> while monitoring my network a strange ip keeps poping up and i want to know what it is pfifo
[02:02] <pfifo> !details | olf-folks
[02:02] <pfifo> olf-folks: probablly just the NSA nothing to worry about
[02:02] <joossee> olf-folks, not really a ubuntu problem...
[02:03] <olf-folks> the ip addr is <IP_ADDRESS> not public apparently, and definatly not private?
[02:04] <tim`> olf-folks: is that a multicast block?
[02:04] <joossee> olf-folks, thats a broadcast address likely for SSDP
[02:04] <pfifo> olf-folks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol
[02:05]  * joossee despite what youve heard in the press, Google is your friend olf-folks , sorta.
[02:06] <pfifo> google / NSA same difference
[02:06] <joossee> question: if i compile a program using "make" if i delete the executable it creates it is gonne permanently and for good?
[02:07] <olf-folks> ahh okay so it is on local network then, how to get a hard addr from it?
[02:07] <rypervenche> joossee: The executable, yes, but you could recreate it using the source code again.
[02:07] <pfifo> joossee: it could be recovered with special tools
[02:07] <joossee> rypervenche, rpger that ty
[02:07] <crocket> Is it possible to set LANG to "en_US.utf8" in ubuntu?
[02:08] <joossee> rypervenche, do you know where virt or the VM manager you showed me the other day keeps its logs?
[02:08] <Wolfspy_> Hi
[02:08] <reisio> suppah
[02:08] <pfifo> Wolfspy_: welcome back
[02:08] <Wolfspy_> Hi
[02:08] <joossee> wow only 133 updates for windows server 2003.. thats impressive almost.
[02:09] <Wolfspy_> I installed it but this shows up when I turn it on http://m.imgur.com/a/O8kAW
[02:10] <olf-folks> exit
[02:10] <pfifo> Wolfspy_: set your bios settings back to achi
[02:10] <joossee> hey whats the best N64 emu for ubuntu?
[02:10] <Wolfspy_> Ok
[02:11] <Wolfspy_> I think the installation changed the boot order in the bios
[02:11] <pfifo> Wolfspy_: no, not possible
[02:11] <tpw_rules> so how can i mount my flash drive and make it work?
[02:12] <Wolfspy_> Well something did
[02:12] <reisio> joossee: mupen, IIRC
[02:12] <reisio> tpw_rules: work?
[02:12] <tpw_rules> it won't automatically mount and i can't do it because i don't have perms
[02:13] <Wolfspy_> Nope, same thing happens after I change it back. :/
[02:13] <melow01> moppy, btw, if strlen is deprecated, how would one go about determining the length of a string in c? a for loop to count the characters?
[02:13] <moppy> melow01, i dont know if it is or not .. and C++ isnt C
[02:14] <melow01> moppy, ok
[02:14] <filinux> tpw ask someone who has permission to mount it for you.
[02:15] <w0lfspy> Is this a commen issue?
[02:15] <tpw_rules> filinux: i do but i have to use sudo
[02:15] <tpw_rules> this never happened before i upgraded
[02:15] <pfifo> melow01: there is a better way to handle strings, with support for unicode and all kinds of other stuff. but that is likely not part of your introductory to C
[02:16] <melow01> pfifo, ok
[02:17] <pfifo> w0lfspy: I think you might be missing a bootloader, and that being the case your computer is trying the cdrom first, no media so it fails, then tries the harddrive, with no boot loader it fails, and lastly tries network.
[02:17] <filinux> what have you tried to mount it?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, This usb has what partition type?
[02:17] <tpw_rules> hfs+
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, really hfs+ apple?
[02:18] <tpw_rules> yeh
[02:18] <filinux> ohh
[02:18] <tpw_rules> it's an external hard drive with that
[02:18] <melow01> pfifo, how long did you study C before you became comfortable with it?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, This an apple computer in general?
[02:18] <tpw_rules> no
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, Do you one ever?
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> use*
[02:19] <tpw_rules> i have an hfs+ external hard drive with some data from my computer that needs to go on to my server with ubuntu
[02:19] <tpw_rules> yes, it's my main computer
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, So the not mounting is a HD, not a flash?
[02:20] <tpw_rules> yes
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> usb*
[02:20] <tpw_rules> it shouldn't matter though, it's attached via usb
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, Not sure never messed with that partition type.
[02:20] <pfifo> melow01: id say about 2 years, I got very comfortable with it once I learned SDL and could make some simple graphical apps. once I could dway some simple shapes and stuff I was able to apply all the math stuff I had learned from basic programming. Yeah id say as soon as you learn an API youll get much more comfortable.
[02:21] <pfifo> draw*
[02:21] <filinux> All the HFS stuff I have mounted is via samba
[02:22] <melow01> pfifo, thanks, that's good to know. I did my BSEE but I'm going back to learn programming now. I talked to lots of friends and many people said to learn c. its the most important language.
[02:23] <tpw_rules> random point: i feel like taking the clinical apporach to learning a language is wrong, both computer and human
[02:23] <melow01> pfifo, Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) ?
[02:23] <pfifo> melow01: yes it is good to know, once you have a good grip on it, switch to python, its so easy yet so powerful
[02:23] <pfifo> melow01: yes simple direct media
[02:23] <melow01> ya, I keep hearing about Python from everyone and their grandmas... haha
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> tpw_rules, Many ways to learn, Heh this has been clinically proven.
[02:24] <w0lfspy> pfifo: can I manually install a boot loader?
[02:25] <pfifo> melow01: java is cool too, android apps and all, but its kinda slow. If your into web programming php has c like syntax and is my choice for web
[02:25] <joossee> does apt-get update and add repo update synaptic as well?
[02:25] <pfifo> w0lfspy: how exactly did you install ubuntu? Did you manually partition, side by side or replace windows?
[02:25] <Auctus> 13.10 with 1gb of ram, good idea? Or use lubuntu?
[02:25] <joossee> Auctus, lubuntu rocks
[02:25] <w0lfspy> pfifo: I replaced windows
[02:26] <melow01> pfifo, right... I studied DSP and I'm looking to get back into for audio purposes so everyone says to learn C, and maybe an assembly language too. FML.
[02:26] <Auctus> joossee, yeah it does but its not as pretty, and im setting this computer up for someone else
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> Auctus, Or xubuntu, really depends on how hard you plan to use it.
[02:26] <Auctus> gonna play some games on it, with software opengl...
[02:26] <melow01> pfifo, C & Assembly are the only ways to do audio without any significant delays
[02:26] <melow01> pfifo, video too
[02:27] <pfifo> w0lfspy: this is how to install a bootloader https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[02:28]  * Spudster_away is set as away
[02:28]  * Spudster is no longer away : Gone for 25 secs
[02:28] <reisio> Spudster: nobody cares
[02:28] <pfifo> melow01: you can put asembly directly into a function in C which is great for DSP
[02:29] <melow01> pfifo, oh wow, i had no idea. trip out.
[02:29] <pfifo> !away > Spudster
[02:30] <joossee> can anyone tell me if this repo actually exists or is good? "https://launchpad.net/~sven-eckelmann/+archive/ppa-mupen64plus"
[02:36] <pfifo> joossee: mupen64plus is available in the repos
[02:37] <joossee> pfifo, ya but no front end? I'm trying to install the version here: https://bitbucket.org/auria/wxmupen64plus/wiki/Home
[02:37] <Nach0z> muppet 64 plus
[03:03] <paulohora> hi there, good night
[03:06] <pfifo> not many support requests this hour on a saturday night
[03:08] <joossee> pfifo, where does virt and kvm keep its logs!?!?!?!
[03:08] <raghavendra> failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ppa/ubuntu/dists/price/main/binary-i386/packages 404 not found  error in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[03:09] <InFlames> anyone know an irc network/channel to get help with deluge bt client?
[03:09] <InFlames> figured this isn't the right spot
[03:09] <raghavendra> any one help to fix the error failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ppa/ubuntu/dists/price/main/binary-i386/packages 404 not found  error in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[03:10] <InFlames> raghavendra, you need the ppa for compiz for 12.04?
[03:10] <reisio> InFlames: if you're using Ubuntu, here will suffice, for the moment
[03:10] <reisio> InFlames: or you could try /msg alis list *deluge*
[03:11] <raghavendra> I am new to ubuntu how can I get the ppa for compiz for 12.04
[03:11] <InFlames> raghavendra, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager#Ubuntu_12.04
[03:11] <xangua> raghavendra: compiz is already in ubuntu repositories
[03:11] <HiddenDjinn> raghavendra, price is a typo
[03:12] <HiddenDjinn> raghavendra, it should read precise in your sources.list
[03:12] <seven_> .back
[03:12] <esde> https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys#How_weak.3F is this a concern in 12.04.3?
[03:12] <InFlames> oh there is a #deluge channel ;x
[03:13] <InFlames> i couldn't tell via google, should have just looked at the channel list
[03:13] <esde> does ssh-keygen generate using /dev/urandom?
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> raghavendra, Have you used a compiz ppa for compiz versions on the desktop?
[03:14] <InFlames> esde, ssh-keygen -R hostname [-f known_hosts_file]. ssh-keygen -U reader [-f input_keyfile]. SSH_USE_STRONG_RNG. The reseeding of the OpenSSL random generator is usually done. from /dev/urandom.
[03:14] <esde> ty
[03:15] <InFlames> man ssh-keygen has more details
[03:15] <InFlames> esde, have to use SSH_USE_STRONG_RNG
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> raghavendra, last release covered in that ppa was maverick, you might want to run ppa-purge on it. Tons of compiz scripts on the web, and a whole thread at the ubuntu forums with thousands of posts.
[03:16] <pfifo> joossee: i dont know, but when your running the VM you can get a list of files its using with the program lsof
[03:17] <InFlames> no helping coming from #deluge, does anyone know how to fix deluge bt client when it can't load magnet links?
[03:17] <InFlames> i remove/installed it and --reinstall'd it, no dice
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Right click the magnet link-open with and navigate to deluge in /user/bin or sbin I forget
[03:18] <InFlames> i'll try that
[03:18] <InFlames> i believe it's associated, just not loading the details
[03:19] <InFlames> will try that first though
[03:19] <paulohora> hi there, guys. i did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 in a dell inspiron 14 n4050 laptop and i'm having some trouble with the keyboard. everything is working except for the shift key.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, /user/bin/deluge
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, when it is set to open it pops up an okay.
[03:19] <InFlames> yea, it used to work :[
[03:20] <pfifo> paulohora: atleast its not stuck on :)
[03:21] <seven_> boas nya
[03:21] <jparr> ls
[03:21] <jparr> well thats embarrasing
[03:22] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, deluge's icon shakes, but nothing loads, and it says "no incoming connections!"
[03:23] <paulohora> pfifo, but i cannot type dollar sign for example nor asterisk or ampersand
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, no incoming connection would be associated with at the least something being called out for.
[03:24] <InFlames> i thought that as well
[03:24] <InFlames> so you're saying that's normal with...no incoming connections...
[03:24] <paulohora> anyone know how to solve this / dammit... it was a question mark
[03:24] <InFlames> oh, also when i hit the plus, or go to file -> add torrent, nothing happens
[03:25] <wilee-nilee>  InFlames Not every p2p is a legit or even safe resource.
[03:25] <InFlames> i know that
[03:25] <InFlames> but i can't even dl from arch linux's website
[03:25] <InFlames> i figured i'd go test it with a legit torrent and magnet link
[03:26] <InFlames> i should try a .torrent actually, i haven't
[03:26] <wilee-nilee>  InFlames Your description is a bit confusing to me, the way I read it is nothing at all shows up in deluge, when it seems something is there just no links are available at the moment for it.
[03:27] <InFlames> yea, basically i click the magnet link link, and deluge shakes, then nothing
[03:27] <InFlames> no files loaded, no queue, nothing
[03:27] <InFlames> woah, ok weird development
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Take a screenshot of deluge and imagebin it. Never sen mine shake.
[03:27] <InFlames> the icon in the launcher shakes
[03:28] <InFlames> i clicked the arch magnet link, it shook as usual, no output, then i downloaded the torrent and opened it with deluge, deluge tells me "you cannot add the same torrent twice"
[03:28] <azio_m> why ubuntu is not asking me to install the nvidia driver anymore with 13.10?
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Can you see now wjy this is a confusing description, about 50 possible desktops available, at least 6 are canonical, not all have anything shaking.
[03:29] <InFlames> oh sorry
[03:29] <InFlames> unity, stock
[03:29] <InFlames> 13.04
[03:29] <InFlames> deluge 1.3.6
[03:29] <DrGrov> Hello hello
[03:30] <nbastin> anyone know where to find the kernel headers package for 3.2.46 that was originally in 12.04 but appears to not exist anymore?
[03:30] <InFlames> does that help narrow it down for you? i can still provide a screenshot, happy to
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, A screenshot would help, than I would know for sure if anything has been loaded for deluge to call to.
[03:31] <DrGrov> I just had a power shortage, did not have the chance to close my computer. It just closed itself. Running 13.10 64-bit. Should I need to check my hard drives?
[03:31] <InFlames> ok
[03:34] <esde> i used ssh-keygen but cannot copy id using ssh-copy-id http://paste.ubuntu.com/6429961/
[03:37] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, http://imgur.com/5NmaWEk it tinted it weird
[03:40] <wolfspy> finally...
[03:40] <reisio> indeed
[03:40] <RPG-Master> OK, I did something awhile back and now its bugging me and I'm not sure how to fix it.
[03:40] <wolfspy> that was much harder then it should have been...
[03:40] <RPG-Master> explanation incoming
[03:40] <Ticked> anyone know why that when I update topside I says directory not found
[03:41] <reisio> Ticked: 'cause it didn't find a directory it was looking for
[03:41] <xangua> !find topside
[03:41] <Ticked> With the tripwire -m u
[03:41] <reisio> some of these are gimmies
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, It does look like nothing is loaded, rather strange, to be honest I have not had a problem with deluge since I was a beginner years ago so not really sure of an answer
[03:41] <Ticked> Reisio how do I create that directory or can i
[03:42] <RPG-Master> I installed something called qtsixa in my efforts of getting my PS3 controller to work perfectly in Linux. Well, it worked, but now several key functions are mapped to the controller and the analog stick moves my cursor. I tried uninstalling the app but that didn't revert anything.
[03:42] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, tell me about it deluge has done right by me for ages, this cropped up today, it was working fine 2 days ago
[03:43] <RPG-Master> At this point, I just want to remove the mouse mapping to the analog stick.
[03:43] <pfifo> wolfspy: everything go ok?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Try deleting ~/.config/deluge so it makes a new config, close first before deleting.
[03:44] <InFlames> damn, you know, it could be that!
[03:44] <InFlames> i forgot, i had a problem and botched my .config
[03:44] <InFlames> i thought i fixed most of the directory though
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> that will do it
[03:44] <InFlames> little stuff crept up for a few days
[03:44] <InFlames> yea, i lagged out and dragged the folder to the trash
[03:44] <InFlames> and when i restored it, the applications were still running
[03:44] <InFlames> it did a number on it
[03:45] <wolfgang_> Can I install debians Ice weasle?
[03:45] <reisio> wolfgang_: yup
[03:45] <reisio> but why
[03:45] <Ticked> I installed tripwire I done what the Linux page said to set it up but when I give the command tripwire -m u it says ###error file could not be opens. File name /var/tripwire/reportHOSTNAME-20131116-203629.twr no such file or directory exiting. What is going on how do I get it right
[03:45] <InFlames> i had ice weasel on 12.04
[03:46]  * InFlames hugs wilee-nilee, fixed, thank you sir
[03:46] <wolfgang_> reisio, Because I like it, how do I install it? Im using elementry and a lot of websites dont like the default browser.
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[03:46] <InFlames> :]
[03:46] <reisio> wolfgang_: what's the default browser? Epiphany?
[03:46] <reisio> or what'd they rename it to, 'web'? :p
[03:46] <InFlames> now to fix my lvm snapshot problems, lol
[03:46] <wolfgang_> reisio, midori
[03:47] <reisio> wolfgang_: you should be able to install firefox or iceweasel from the repos
[03:47] <InFlames> i might watch some videos on it, i read a ton, and i kinda get it, but some stuff just isn't working right
[03:47] <wolfgang_> reisio, so just sudo apt-get install iceweasle?
[03:47] <laiyilong> I‘m chinese
[03:48] <reisio> wolfgang_: probably, or firefox
[03:48] <reisio> laiyilong: neat
[03:48] <wolfgang_> reisio, E: Unable to locate package iceweasle
[03:48] <InFlames> yea, that works
[03:48] <InFlames> apt just told me "firefox is already installed"
[03:48] <Ticked> Wolfgang if you want to install iceweasle yes
[03:48] <reisio> wolfgang_: you typing it like that?
[03:48] <InFlames> so you might need to use another ppa?
[03:48] <wolfgang_> InFlames, what ppa?
[03:49] <wolfgang_> Reisio, Btw im the one with the mic problems, dont know if you remember me, but I am just using an external mic and it works fine.
[03:49] <InFlames> ppa:dirk-computer42/c42-backport
[03:49] <InFlames> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/install-iceweasel-ppa-ubuntu-1304/
[03:49] <wolfgang_> InFlames, Whats the command?
[03:50] <wolfgang_> sudo apt-get add ppa:dirk-computer42/c42-backport ?
[03:50] <InFlames> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dirk-computer42/c42-backport
[03:51] <wolfgang_> E: Unable to locate package iceweasle
[03:51] <wolfgang_> Whats the package name?
[03:51] <reisio> wolfgang_: neat
[03:51] <InFlames> checkout that link
[03:52] <InFlames> you have to update your repository before you can search it
[03:52] <wolfgang_> InFlames, Ok.
[03:52] <wolfgang_> Inflames, Its installing thank you
[03:52] <InFlames> yw
[03:54] <k4rp> Can someone help me out, I'm having issues with my UEFI BIOS. My mouse is stuck in the top right corner, and repeatedly resets it's position.
[03:54] <reisio> with UEFI* :)
[03:55] <reisio> mouse position not likely related to that, however
[03:55] <InFlames> heh reisio
[03:55] <reisio> k4rp: do you have a touchscreen?
[03:55] <k4rp> No I do not
[03:56] <Ticked>  I installed tripwire I done what the Linux page said to set it up but when I give the command tripwire -m u it says ###error file could not be opens. File name /var/tripwire/reportHOSTNAME-20131116-203629.twr no such file or directory exiting. What is going on
[03:56] <reisio> k4rp: trackpad?
[03:56] <k4rp> Nope, I'm on a desktop.
[03:56] <k4rp> I'm using a compaq keyboard with a microsoft intelli mouse.
[03:57] <moondog> wolfgang_: iceweasel not iceweasle
[03:57] <trusktr> Hey, the docs say that wubi.exe is only available with 12.04 LTS, not 13.10.... but wubi.exe is in the 13.10 iso.
[03:57] <trusktr> (32 bt)
[03:57] <trusktr> (32 bit*)
[03:58] <reisio> trusktr: paradox!
[03:58] <InFlames> lol
[03:59] <JoshuaP> Using 13.10 amd64, and i have a launcherbar problem
[04:04] <Jebus> I finally fixed my issue
[04:04] <wolfgang_> moondog, Its ok I have it installed now
[04:05] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, I finally fixed the issue
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Cool good job. ;)
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, heh I forget what it was though.
[04:09] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:11] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: lol
[04:12] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:12] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, the red notice for the update manager, some how the Cdrom check box was checked
[04:13] <trusktr> Hey, what's the direct link to download wubi.exe?
[04:13] <yeisibeth> hi
[04:15] <xangua> !hi | yeisibeth
[04:16] <Filcon> hi guy, this link is wubi.exe:http://ishare.iask.sina.com.cn/download/explain.php?fileid=8212849
[04:17] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, I owe you an apology for taking up your time earlier
[04:17] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, I am sorry
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Ah I remember now, no biggie, it is not easy for any of us, don't worry about it. ;)
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> well most of us hehe
[04:19] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, :) I am going to study up more on Ubuntu before I do anything else. Thank you so much for earlier.
[04:21] <pfifo> I usually add a diversion for /usr/bin/update-manager and then symlink it to /bin/true i never get bothered by ubuntu wanting me to update
[04:22] <trusktr> ok, nvm i found it. So, what's the "installation size" option when instaling with wubi??
[04:23] <pfifo> trusktr: how much hard drive space are you giving it
[04:24] <trusktr> pfifo, THe whole hard drive.
[04:24] <trusktr> E:
[04:24] <trusktr> Where's the option to just use all the space?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Cool, it takes time, I only know so much and it has taken 1000's of posts on the ubuntu forums and tons of time here helping and watching others a googling like a madman, all while working on a dual bachelors degree not related and now grad school, I'm a bit obsessed with it even though it's only a hobby really.
[04:24] <trusktr> I've selected E;\ in the first field.
[04:24] <Jebus> pfifo, sorry for leaving earlier my dad needed help fixing his car
[04:24] <trusktr> THe maximum size it shows is 30GB... but E: is 74GB.
[04:24] <trusktr> o_O
[04:25] <pfifo> trusktr: you dont need that much, 6Gb is plenty for ubuntu
[04:26] <trusktr> pfifo, and then.... will it use the remaining space for my home folder or something?
[04:26] <trusktr> It's not clear.
[04:26] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, pfifo was the other one to help me right I can't remember
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, They are extremely helpful yes.
[04:27] <pfifo> trusktr: no it will use 6gb for eveything.
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> viva pfifo hehe
[04:27] <Jebus> You both helped me so much and I thank you both :)
[04:27] <chadmandoo> s
[04:27] <chadmandoo> Hey
[04:28] <Jebus> Well goodnight everyone
[04:28] <pfifo> trusktr: if you want a more advanced setup then wubi isnt for you. wubi is more fore testing out the water
[04:29] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Wubi is bad, it installs it into your windows folder, and windows files systems are bad, its not a good idea.
[04:30] <trusktr> pfifo, well what I already have is a partitioned disk, (C: and E:). How does Ubuntu work... will it autmatically allow one to view and access windows files (Windows is on C:)?
[04:30] <trusktr> wolfgang_, But I'm not choosing C:, I'm choosing a blank partition E:.
[04:30] <trusktr> WHat happens then?
[04:31] <chadmandoo> Hey is expect still supported and popular shell?
[04:31] <pfifo> trusktr: if you have a disk your willing to devote to ubuntu then just install ubuntu on it. Wubi is nice if you dont have an extra disk and cant partition.
[04:32] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Well, wubi just isnt a good idea all together, just use a live disc, choose something else, make sure E: is ext 4 if not delete it and make another from your now unallocated data thats ext 4 set it to /. Set the boot option to unallocated data.
[04:32] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Thats exactley how I did it when I used ubuntu.
[04:32] <pfifo> trusktr: wubi installs are slow as well, installing directly will speed things up greatly
[04:33] <wolfgang_> trusktr, Wubi is really just for if you can't figure out how to install it the right way.
[04:34] <wolfgang_> trusktr, They actually discontinued wubi.
[04:34] <pfifo> trusktr: you can access windows data from ubuntu, but windows cant access ubuntu's data. However if yu format ext2, there are drivers for windows you can install to access the ubuntu data (but thats not really needed, just store your movies and music on your windows drive)
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> E sounds like a 5th partition is this a W8 computer trusktr?
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> er or maybe 3rd
[04:37] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: E sounds like 2nd partition to me, C for the first D for the cdrom E for the second (A and B for floppy)
[04:37] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Could be I just wonder if a msdos that it might have 4 primaries is all.
[04:38] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: sounds like he has 2 disks, each with one partition
[04:39] <pfifo> which implies winXP or earlier
[04:39] <xmetal> back
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Cool you know what's up more than I do in general, just concerned with a HD made dynamic by accident is all.
[04:39] <xmetal> i almost tried wubi on my other pc, but the hardware was too iffy to really try installing ubuntu on it
[04:39] <genii> !wubi
[04:41] <pfifo> windows needs to adopt zfs so that everyon can be happy
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> hehe gpt is half way there
[04:43] <pfifo> im going to bed
[04:43] <yeisibeth> hello
[04:43] <varunendra> pfifo, most ext drivers allow read/write access to ext4 as well, even if the name is "ext2fsd" ;)
[04:44] <Hwkiller> does steam on linux use packagekit to fetch deps, or does it still rely on hacky scripts?
[04:45] <Hwkiller> err.. this was the wrong irc
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, They let you loose from the #ubuntuforums eh. ;)
[04:46] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, :P
[04:48] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I've set xchat to join both #ubuntu and #ubuntuforums simultaneously, although I stay more active here (when I am ;) )
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, he, good choice you are a great help with wireless problems here.
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> heh
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> and other areas of course
[04:49] <varunendra> Thanks for the compliments, although I know most of them are lies :D
[04:49] <varunendra> "True Lies" !!
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, I lie only to make others feel better. ;)
[04:50] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, It's a Win XP computer
[04:50] <varunendra> lol !!
[04:50] <trusktr> K, so I downloaded the 13.10.
[04:50] <trusktr> hoefully it boots.
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> generally, ;)
[04:50] <wolfgang_> truscktr, GOod luck
[04:50] <trusktr> wolfgang_, Thanks!
[04:51] <trusktr> :)
[04:51] <wolfgang_> truscktr, I believe you can download xchat in the live disc
[04:51] <wolfgang_> truscktr, So if you need help.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Cool, I was just concerned you were aware of the limits in amounts of primary partitions and or an extended with logicals inside on any single HD.
[04:54] <Humean> Hi, I've got weird-ass sounds coming out of my speakers that go away only when I mute
[04:54] <Humean> and all my audio is messed up and glitchy
[04:54] <jony> hiii
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Humean, It's not talking to you is it. ;)
[04:55] <jony> i cant save my screen resolution
[04:55] <Humean> wilee-nilee, I sure hope not
[04:55] <FuuqUmist> maybe it is just static feedback or something
[04:55] <TickleKate> Hello, I recently updated my Ubuntu 13.10, and the update was interupted. Ever since both browsers Chromium and Firefox crash a few seconds after opening.
[04:55] <xmetal> those are the voices in your head, not ubuntu
[04:55] <Humean> FuuqUmist, no, it's not
[04:55] <jony> it resets after restarting
[04:55] <Humean> it's pulseaudio fuckery
[04:56] <xmetal> i'd open up the updater or package manager and "retry" the updates to let it finsh what it couldn't before, TickleKate
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> TickleKate, run these two commands to make sure the updates finished sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[04:56] <TickleKate> The Updates say it is up to date.
[04:57] <Humean> anyone have any ideas?
[04:58] <TickleKate> Ran the commands, everything was already updated. wilee-nilee
[04:58] <bravo_> hhmm
[04:59] <xmetal> maybe (if there is one) a (just say for Firefox) Firefox "update" via the package manager would help
[04:59] <xmetal> <~~guessing / "reaching at straws"
[05:00] <TickleKate> I'll try
[05:00] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, Oh sweet. Yeah, There will only be two partitions (one for win/ one for ubuntu) so I think it should be fine right?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> TickleKate, Open ff and hit help-restart with addons disabled if you can and see if that does anything.
[05:01] <varunendra> TickleKate, since both FF and chromium are affected, I'd suspect a common plugin, like flash or Java. If you can get them up for long enough, try disabling all the extensions/plugins and see if it helps pin pointing the culprit
[05:01] <eaq> swap
[05:01] <xmetal> true @ varu
[05:01] <eaq> partition
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, No boot partition for the windows?
[05:01] <xmetal> since both are, it could be a plugin that applies to both
[05:01] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, What do you mean? If I will remove it?
[05:01] <xmetal> or a plugin that needs "updating"
[05:02] <trusktr> Well, hopefully I can have a way to choose to boot either OS, otherwise I'll just get rid of XP .:D
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, No don;t remove, windows just generally has a boot partition besides the mian OS partition. If you are on the live cd run sudo blkid and pastebin the info.
[05:03] <CADBOT> Hi all. What's the better AMD driver these days?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, sorry sudo fdisk -l and pastbin it.
[05:04] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, oh thanks! Will do.
[05:04] <trusktr> k
[05:05] <trusktr> hmmmm.... It's been on the Ubuntu load screen with the animated white/orange dots for at least 5 minutes.
[05:05] <trusktr> Is it trying to load everything into memory?
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, This a dvd?
[05:06] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I believe it's just a regular CD.
[05:06] <trusktr> It barely fit.
[05:06] <trusktr> Would it error out if there was a problem?
[05:07] <CADBOT> Or would the AMD question be better asked in another channel?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Ah thats why I asked if a dvd. It can take longer to boot a disc than a flash usb.
[05:08] <varunendra> CADBOT, I know of only two AMD/ATI drivers - open source (radeon) and proprietary (fglrx). Which one will work better depends on your card.
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> CADBOT, Better is a subjective, it would be helpful to post your graphic hardware info in that question.
[05:08] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, wow. much longer I guess.
[05:09] <CADBOT> Radeon HD 7970 not running in crossfire
[05:09] <CADBOT> I can give CPU info if that's important
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> CADBOT, Probably not unless it is really old, just in general with driver issues it helps the helpers to know the hardware, out of my expertise area however.
[05:12] <CADBOT> It's a pretty modern CPU, so it shouldn't matter in this case XD
[05:12] <CADBOT> So, open source or prop driver?
[05:12] <CADBOT> Back when I was on nvidia it was a little more clear cut of an answer
[05:14] <varunendra> CADBOT, not my field of expertise either, but unless you have already installed fglrx, you should be on the open source 'radeon' driver currently. So if it is not satisfactory, you may try fglrx.
[05:14] <dannymichel> Are there any issues with Z-ram? Why isnt it a default thing?
[05:14] <varunendra> CADBOT, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:15] <varunendra> CADBOT, for a detailed info of your card and current driver - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga"
[05:17] <CADBOT> varunendra, Thanks for the info, but I'm looking for opinions on which driver performs better, not installation stuff
[05:19] <varunendra> CADBOT, like been said already, it depends, and there is probably no way to find this out logically, only people experienced with a particular card can tell you which one it works better with.
[05:19] <varunendra> CADBOT, is there a problem with the current driver?
[05:21] <CADBOT> Not really yet, but I'd like the better performing one up front
[05:21] <CADBOT> In other words, neither is clearly the better one, as is the case with the Nvida drivers?
[05:22] <invapid> anyone know how I can get a gcc binary? preferably statically compiled
[05:22] <invapid> g++ binary would be fine as well
[05:22] <varunendra> CADBOT, if 3d acceleration is fine, and there is no overheating problem, it is usually better to stick with the open source one (radeon). From the experience of others of course..
[05:22] <invapid> basically trying to compile a program, where I can't use apt-get
[05:22] <invapid> and have no compilers
[05:23] <CADBOT> Thanks!
[05:23] <varunendra> welcome :)
[05:23] <varunendra> invapid, you mean like build-essential? Or exactly build-essential?
[05:23] <spence> what would be the best usb wifi dongle that supports ap/monitor mode? (north america)
[05:24]  * xmetal thinks "if it ain't broke .."
[05:25] <invapid> varunendra: I think that would work
[05:25] <invapid> varunendra: is there a way to get a pre-compiled version?
[05:26] <invapid> varunendra: thanks, I think I found it
[05:26] <varunendra> invapid, I'd be curious to know what you found :)
[05:26] <gr33n7007h> spence, Alfa 036h realtek chipset or alfa 036nh atheros chipset
[05:26] <invapid> varunendra: under "Download build-essential" they have the .deb files
[05:27] <invapid> varunendra: pretty sure I can install it from that
[05:27] <varunendra> invapid, it should have dependencies as well..
[05:28] <varunendra> which you'll have to download separately, then install them all at once with "dpkg -i *" or in correct order if installing individually, invapid
[05:28] <invapid> ok - sounds good
[05:29] <chris901> are there any programmers in here?
[05:29] <varunendra> invapid, does this computer have no internet connection? Updated ever?
[05:34] <kaixa> hai all
[05:35] <kaixa> help
[05:35] <carbon_monoxide> Hi! I have download Ubuntu Server LTS 12.04.3 image. I use dd command to make bootable thumb drive. However, every time I try to use it to perform basic install, it freezes at the locale selection page. I was just choosing to use 'English'. I didn't try choose 'C'.
[05:35] <kaixa> quit
[05:36] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, It's still loading. o_O
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, Not sure many here will know exactly what "choose 'C'." is here.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Should not be, you can check the md5sum of the iso, or maybe ot was burned to fast.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | trusktr
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Do you have a usb to try?
[05:38] <varunendra> trusktr, apart from the downloaded ISO, you should also check your CD for defects.
[05:38] <xmetal> i think "choose c" means they didn't over-write the windows parititon which they know as "C: "
[05:38] <xmetal> (i am guessing though"
[05:38] <xmetal> ) *
[05:39] <carbon_monoxide> I tried to download the image and use other thumb drive, but got the same outcome. I have tried to use the 'disk check', but it always freezes at some point. Not only installation. I have did the same thing to install Debian on the same machine. Not problem at all.
[05:40] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Sorry about my bad English! I don't understand what you mean.
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, Not sure but have you checked that the server iso is dd friendly I know the net install is not, maybe try a usb loader to a partition? Or check the sum.
[05:40] <xmetal> i'd (if in windows) try www.pendrivelinux.com and see if that YUMI (I have used it on a number of distros) can make a working usb
[05:41] <carbon_monoxide> I got the Ubuntu Server ISO from the official page. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[05:41] <xmetal> hmm
[05:41] <xmetal> !Yumi
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, You might try the #ubuntu-server channel if we find no answer here.
[05:42] <xmetal> (cant remember if there is a command for that
[05:42] <xmetal> !usb
[05:42] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: And Canonical is interesting. They don't show the checksum on the webpage.
[05:43] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Ahh! I didn't know there is an ubuntu-server channel
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[05:44] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Tons of thank!
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[05:44] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: The checksum is perfect.
[05:45] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: Comparing with my download
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, I helped a user yesterday that was doing a dd with a good iso, and discovered a problem with the usb, so really it is a variable chase in the end.
[05:47] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: I have suspected it was my thumb drive's problem. Therefore, I have used another thumb drive to try. Same outcome.
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, sure, not really an area that all I can do is suggest options to try, I don't use logs to find problems in general, so I am probably not your best help.
[05:49] <carbon_monoxide> wilee-nilee: You did a great help already. At least I'm sure the downloaded ISO is perfect.
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> carbon_monoxide, I would try a loader to a partition if it were me like unetbootin, or one of many.
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> I just don't ever use dd is all
[05:54] <varunendra> carbon_monoxide, can you try the installation directly from the ISO on a virtual machine?
[05:55] <carbon_monoxide> varunendra: Ahh! Right. I can do that on the machine which downloaded the ISO.
[05:55] <DoYouKnow> I am noticing a bug in ubuntu
[05:55] <varunendra> carbon_monoxide, if that succeeds, you can clone the installation with clonezilla, then restore the image on the desired partition. Dirty, but works
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> it's either a bug in ubuntu or the server I'm connecting to is throttling me
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> but I am unable to execute several network commands curl, wget in rapid succession
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> how do I troubleshoot this issue? it's with a particular very large script
[05:57] <DoYouKnow> what kinds of ftp throttling are available? are they likely employed?
[06:00] <Puddingfork> Anyone using an IRC bouncer / proxy?
[06:00] <Puddingfork> Thinking of setting one up at home
[06:01] <Puddingfork> Not really sure what to use though...
[06:01] <sanaa> hello
[06:02] <winegoddess> anyone know where i can get linux support right now?
[06:02] <Puddingfork> What do you need winegoddess?
[06:02] <varunendra> winegoddess, here if it is ubuntu
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> winegoddess, ##linux
[06:02] <genii> If your linux is Ubuntu, then here
[06:02] <winegoddess> hi Puddingfork
[06:02] <winegoddess> i only have cpanel access - i don't know which flavor it is
[06:03] <Puddingfork> What's the issue?
[06:03] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I dd'ed the iso to usb but it doesn't boot.
[06:03] <trusktr> Dos it support non-UEFI?
[06:03] <winegoddess> a public_hmtl was removed. i had done a backup earlier today using scp - and I'm trying to restore
[06:03] <winegoddess> but it seems there was a symbolic link in the mix
[06:04] <sanaa> i have a question
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Doe snot boot meaning from changing just the bios?
[06:04] <sanaa> please answare
[06:04] <winegoddess> i only have cpanel access. i did have ssh. someone moved my stuff over without asking then moved things about.
[06:04] <winegoddess> long story.
[06:04] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, well apparently it's set to boot in this order: external drives, cd rom, hard disk.
[06:05] <winegoddess> trying to get someone to help as the backup had a symbolic link and now i think i may be screwed
[06:05] <Puddingfork> winegoddess: If I was you I would post on the cpanel support forums
[06:05] <Puddingfork> You might get better help there
[06:05] <winegoddess> okay i will try thank you
[06:05] <Puddingfork> np
[06:05] <winegoddess> #cpanel
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, There is a per-session boot menu outside the bios, my shows with a f12 prompt as if I was trying to get to the bios which is a f2 prompt here.
[06:06] <Puddingfork> For that kind of issue I think forums will be more useful
[06:07] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, hmmm.... someone locked this bios with a password. guess I gotta try and reset it somehow.
[06:07] <trusktr> I wonder if trying 12.04 instead of 13.10 will make a difference.
[06:07] <trusktr> This cXP comp is really old.
[06:08] <trusktr> Win XP*
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, I'm talking about a boot menu the bios has nothing to do with.
[06:08] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, mine is esc key to change boot order.
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, It may not even boot a usb if old enough.
[06:09] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: plop helps with that
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, So esc brings up a boot menu with those choices yo mentioned?
[06:09] <trusktr> yeah
[06:09] <trusktr> and hard drive seems to be last
[06:09] <trusktr> and it indeed booted the CD.
[06:09] <trusktr> But just not the USB.
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Try everyone they get mixed up at times, the usb may show as a cd.
[06:10] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, That's what I can't specify. It's only the boot order... then to change it I have to enter BIOS setup, then it asks for a password.
[06:11] <trusktr> I saw online on resetting it by taking out the cmos battey.
[06:11] <trusktr> battery.
[06:11] <trusktr> I'm gonna try that.
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, THat menu does not let you move the choice with the arrow keys?
[06:11] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, apparently this one.
[06:11] <trusktr> seems like it only shows it
[06:11] <trusktr> let me try random keys
[06:11] <trusktr> hehe
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, The arrow up and down should control it.
[06:13] <trusktr> oh well. pressed enter on "removable devices", but it went to Win XP.
[06:13] <trusktr> So I think it's not booting.
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, You were able to check the sum of the ISO?
[06:14] <trusktr> not yet. let me try.
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> trusktr,What ISO did you download, link?
[06:14] <jmgk> hi all
[06:14] <jmgk> :)
[06:15] <lucaone> saluti a tutti
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Ubuntu should not fit on a cd generally now a days, it did yours though, just trying to work through variables is all.
[06:15] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I went to ubuntu.com, download>desktop>oh... oops, I just tried the 64 bit image, but the machine is 32bit.
[06:15] <trusktr> xD
[06:15] <trusktr> But yeah, that big orange button to download.
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Heh, so 64 bit on 32bit computer are we on the buton there?
[06:17] <trusktr> yeah, I had downloaded the 64 bit one for a different machine earlier... I forgot about that.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, It happens no biggie.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[06:17] <trusktr> hehe
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, YOu want 12.04?
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, Whatever release you want there are pages for torrent or http downloads, I can link you up if you want.
[06:19] <Carbon_Rink> qq.. how do i get rid of duplicates sources.. i have done an apt-get update a few times and rebooted and ran again? any other idea. I am a noob
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, This a duplicate notification in the updates?
[06:20] <Carbon_Rink> yes
[06:20] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, I'm getting 32bit 13.10. :D
[06:20] <trusktr> It's not too long. only 30 min. XD
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, either in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:21] <Carbon_Rink> just del?
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, if needed. http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/
[06:21] <trusktr>  sweet. Thanks1
[06:21] <trusktr> !
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, You can open the software sources and untick the duplicates
[06:24] <Carbon_Rink> can i get a quick how too please?
[06:24] <evanvarvell> how too you do?
[06:24] <Carbon_Rink> open the software sources
[06:25] <evanvarvell> go to system settings?
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> Carbon_Rink, you can get to softwrae sources from the edit in the ubuntu software center
[06:25] <evanvarvell> administration
[06:25] <evanvarvell> software sources?
[06:26] <Carbon_Rink> i got it.. thanks gents
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> evanvarvell, help if you can, but don;t confuse help going on.
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> trusktr, IN about 15 min I will be gone for awhile doing a nightly job so if you ping me that's what's up
[06:31] <trusktr> wilee-nilee, FOr sure. Thanks for the help!
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[06:36] <binasco> hi all, I nedd some help for alocate disk space to ubuntu on virtualbox
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> binasco, Have you filled up what space you have?
[06:37] <wolfgang_> I installed elementary os today, and when I open steam games I get this error: This application requires either the GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, or the GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 + GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 + GL_AGNGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 OpenGL extensions. Please install S3TC texture support
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> wolfgang_, elementaryOS is not supported here.
[06:38] <binasco> wilee-nilee: yes
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> binasco, The Vbox build?
[06:38] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, Its ubuntu 12.04 based, and no one is in there irc
[06:38] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, So i can here
[06:39] <wilee-nilee> wolfgang_, I understand but it is not supported everyone here will tell you the same it is just a channel policy.
[06:39] <kostkon> !elementary
[06:39] <kostkon> :/
[06:39] <binasco> yes, i create a virtualbox with 8Gb disk space, and now I need more space.. my OS is Mac Mavericks
[06:39] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, then pretend Im using ubuntu 12.04 and help me for that, so I think I am missing a driver
[06:40] <oste> hello - I am trying to deploy via capistrano which needs to create directories in the /var/www folder
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> binasco, I believe you can take the vdi image and insert it in a new bigger partition, but if know one helps, you can try #vbox
[06:40] <oste> I am getting permission denied
[06:40] <Carbon_Rink> binasco, - i am pretty sure that osx maverics clean install is biger than 8 gig
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> wolfgang_, I have to go to work is all.
[06:40] <wolfgang_> wilee-nilee, ok, then go to work.
[06:41] <binasco> wilee-nilee:  i run this command VBoxManage modifyhd "/Users/fernandobinasco/VirtualBox VMs/php/php.vdi" --resize 40000
[06:41] <oste> how can I get it so ubuntu can create directories in /var/www without using sudo
[06:41] <binasco> but ubuntu dont understant I have more space
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> binasco, I have to go to work so others will have to help you.
[06:42] <binasco> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks
[06:44] <wolfgang_> How do i update My graphics card drivers?
[06:47] <justanotheruser> Please give me a list of packages needed for a complete xampp
[06:49] <wolfgang_> How do i update My graphics card drivers?
[06:50] <sam113101> guys
[06:50] <sam113101> I think I broke my libraries
[06:51] <sam113101> unfortunately
[06:51] <sam113101> /usr/bin/sublime-text: line 3: 10719 Floating point exception(core dumped) /opt/sublime_text_2/sublime_text --class=sublime-text-2 "$@"
[06:51] <sam113101> don't know why I'd get that
[06:51] <wolfgang_> Is updating graphics drivers that hard?
[06:51] <sam113101> it was working fine before and I didn't update it
[06:52] <sam113101> wolfgang_: no
[06:52] <wolfgang_> sm113101, Than can you help me?
[06:53] <sam113101> wolfgang_: just update your entire system, if you're using free drivers they're going to get updated
[06:53] <wolfgang_> sam113101, I think I need an extra one, I have updated, Becuase Im missing some openGL texture or something.
[06:54] <wolfgang_> sam113101, This application requires either the GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, or the GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 + GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 + GL_AGNGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 OpenGL extensions. Please install S3TC texture support.
[06:54] <sam113101> wolfgang_: what about you tell me your real problem and not what you think it might be
[06:54] <wolfgang_> sam113101, I have already stated that error
[06:54] <wolfgang_> sam113101, When I try and open steam games.
[06:54] <sam113101> what's the application?
[06:55] <genii> sam113101: His real problem is that he doesn't want to seek help in the channel for the distribution he's actually using, #elementary
[06:55] <wolfgang_> genii, Its ubuntu12.04 based, its essentially the same thing and no one helps in there support
[06:56] <genii> wolfgang_: It is still the policy of this channel that we do not support derivatives, however you may feel about it.
[06:57] <binasco> Hi, I created virtualbox running ubuntu with 8GB of space for development environment but now appears to me the following error in mysql "mysql error the partition with / var / lib / mysql is too full".
[06:57] <binasco> Now I need to allocate more space to my virtual machine I ran this command on my mac "VBoxManage modifyhd" / Users / fernandobinasco / VirtualBox VMs / php / php.vdi "- resize 40000" but I think ubuntu does not recognize what has changed
[06:57] <spitboxer> So, anyone know, is there something like xorg-edgers ppa for 13.10?
[06:57] <binasco> screenshot http://postimg.org/image/4keflaiw7/
[06:58] <genii> spitboxer: Yes, the xorg-edgers has Saucy repos in it.
[06:58] <spitboxer> oh it does? I checked the other day and it didn't seem to
[06:58] <sam113101> wolfgang_: have you tried setting force_s3tc_enable=true before running the game?
[07:08] <ripthejacker> I have an adsl connection and a 3g dongle.Can use both at the same time?
[07:08] <ripthejacker> If yes then how?
[07:10] <b0xa> erm
[07:10] <b0xa> 2 different network connections
[07:10] <b0xa> so technically you could use them at the same time
[07:10] <b0xa> but kinda pointless seeing adsl would be faster and have better latency
[07:11] <binasco> Hi, I created virtualbox running ubuntu with 8GB of space for development environment but now appears to me the following error in mysql "mysql error the partition with / var / lib / mysql is too full".
[07:11] <binasco> Now I need to allocate more space to my virtual machine I ran this command on my mac "VBoxManage modifyhd" / Users / fernandobinasco / VirtualBox VMs / php / php.vdi "- resize 40000" but I think ubuntu does not recognize what has changed
[07:11] <b0xa> binasco: iirc 20gb is recommended minimum partition size
[07:11] <genii> ripthejacker: The connection which is activated last becomes the default connection.
[07:11] <lecoeus> binasco: run parted and try enlarging the root partition
[07:12] <ripthejacker> b0xa: yes but with both I can get the combined speed
[07:12] <spitboxer> genii: you know anything about xorg-edgers and propietary drivers? I'm on 12.10 on this machine with nvidia proprietary drivers originally using the ViewPortIn and ViewPortOut xorg.conf directives to compensate for some ridiculous overscan and it worked fine. I tried 13.10 on a different machine with ati open source drivers, I couldn't figure out how to get xorg.conf to load - it appears to live in /usr/share/X11/xorg.con
[07:12] <ripthejacker> genii: yes I know, but I want to use the combined speed.
[07:12] <binasco> b0xa: now I want to change for 40Gb..
[07:12] <spitboxer> putting xorg.conf's in /etc/X11 didnt seem to do anything.
[07:13] <binasco> lecoeus: look this http://postimg.org/image/4keflaiw7/\
[07:13] <ripthejacker> genii, lecoeus: I saw something like this for windows,don't rem its name,that can combine different networks
[07:13] <binasco> lecoeus: look this http://postimg.org/image/4keflaiw7/
[07:13] <genii> ripthejacker: There is the bonding driver, however setting it up is not for the faint. If the ISP is same in both cases you may also be able to do MLPPP
[07:14] <spitboxer> TL;DR: I'd much rather use ViewPortIn and ViewPortOut xorg.conf directives than xrandr scripts in lightdm.conf.
[07:14] <spitboxer> Is this possible on 13.10?
[07:14] <lecoeus> binasco: run sudo gparted
[07:14] <lecoeus> or fdisk -l
[07:15] <binasco> ok
[07:15] <b0xa> ripthejacker: no, you dont get combined speed.'
[07:15] <lecoeus> df -h shows the sizes of partitions but the disk space you added is not formatted yet
[07:15] <b0xa> and 3g gives you all of... 7-8mbit MAX... adsl 20+
[07:15] <b0xa> really.
[07:15] <genii> spitboxer: The xorg.conf is still used if it is found, any directives given there will still be followed.
[07:15] <spitboxer> genii: yeah but where does it live?
[07:16] <genii> spitboxer: Normally in /etc/X11
[07:16] <ripthejacker> b0xa: ok the software is connectify dispatch which can connect add up the speed of all your networks
[07:16] <genii> !xorgconf | spitboxer You may also find this informative
[07:16] <ripthejacker> b0xa: http://www.connectify.me/dispatch/
[07:16] <spitboxer> yeah i read all that and wasted hours trying to follow those instructions for ATI
[07:16] <spitboxer> the consensus here, in #ubuntu, was that the only drivers worth running are the default open source
[07:17] <ripthejacker> genii: what all do I need to know, before attempting bonding?
[07:17] <yorick> elabaaaaa
[07:17] <spitboxer> my particular card and ahrdware combination seems to be troublesome for the ati custom drivers: HD4xxx series
[07:17] <spitboxer> also
[07:17] <spitboxer> the real problem is, genii
[07:17] <spitboxer> xorg.conf NO LONGER LIVES in /etc/X11
[07:17] <Guest39564> some womens over here!
[07:17] <spitboxer> its in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[07:17] <spitboxer> and its basically empty
[07:18] <spitboxer> has a few default files there
[07:18] <Peyam> I wanted to install ubuntu 13.10 and I didnt like it, I decided to reinstall xubuntu 13.04 and when I install it after reboot it gives me " reboot and select proper boot device" I never had this problem before. What do I do?.. I have windows 7 installed as well
[07:18] <spitboxer> but nothing relating to my ati configuration - all of that appears to be auto detected or something.
[07:18] <genii> spitboxer: My xorg.conf file which resides in /etc/X11 on my 13.10 and 14.04 is still being used.
[07:19] <spitboxer> strange
[07:19] <spitboxer> I put stuff there, and nothing happened
[07:19] <helmut_> hi
[07:19] <spitboxer> didn't seem to load it at all
[07:19] <genii> spitboxer: Yes, that seems odd.
[07:20] <spitboxer> i'll give it another try
[07:20] <spitboxer> but since ihave it running with xrandr its not a priority right now
[07:20] <binasco> lecoeus: gparted returns command not found and fdisk return this http://postimg.org/image/6z2zqz6c9/
[07:20] <spitboxer> however, on this machine im having a problem upgrading from 12.10 to 13.10 - was running xorg-edgers, disabled that ppa and, reverted to noveaux
[07:21] <genii> spitboxer: Perhaps you're not even using xorg but another engine? Like mir/xmir/wayland ?
[07:21] <spitboxer> spitboxer: is that the new default in 13.10?!?!
[07:21] <binasco> lecoeus: here is ubuntu server 13
[07:21] <spitboxer> er
[07:21] <spitboxer> genii:
[07:21] <spitboxer> haha
[07:21] <reisio> nope
[07:21] <spitboxer> genii: is wayland the new default???
[07:21] <genii> spitboxer: No, should not be. But you never know what people tend to install.
[07:22] <lecoeus> binasco: hmm, you need something like parted to mess around with partitions
[07:22] <spitboxer> genii, yeah, this is a fresh install of kubuntu on that machine
[07:22] <lecoeus> binasco: fdisk could also work but it reports sizes in cylinders or sectors
[07:22] <spitboxer> and the machine im on now, is an install of xubuntu 12.10
[07:22] <lecoeus> binasco: perhaps you have parted instead of gparted
[07:22] <spitboxer> oh well
[07:22] <spitboxer> back to the drawing board haha
[07:22] <spitboxer> thanks for your help
[07:24] <genii> spitboxer: Actually, Kubuntu and regular Ubuntu may be using different subsystems. I think the default at some point for K will be Wayland, however, not currently
[07:24] <binasco> lecoeus: hmm thanks
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an alternative to the package prey, an anti-theft program for laptops
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[07:50] <blurkis> hello there. my firefox browser is locked in a wegpage I can not leave. It keeps popping up a question if I want to leave the page, and pressing leave does only pop up a new question. Killing the application with xkill only brings up the same window upon a new launch. How to open a new instance of firefox that do not open that page after I kill firefox?
[07:51] <reisio> blurkis: -safe-mode might be a start
[07:51] <reisio> there's a pref you can toggle to make session management less idiotic
[07:51]  * reisio looks up
[07:51] <findmrg1> apt-get update freeze in Reading package lists... 0% why?
[07:53] <Peeyam> hi
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> findmrg1, Have you modified anything or is this a sudden event?
[07:53] <reisio> blurkis: I'm guessing... the browser.sessionstore ones
[07:53] <Peeyam> Xubuntu installation doesnt show windows partition. it just show the whole hdd as unlocaten
[07:54] <findmrg1> yes before it I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight
[07:54] <reisio> blurkis: as for annoying popups, that's JavaScript, you can temporarily disable it to close such windows/tabs
[07:54] <reisio> Peeyam: as what?
[07:54] <findmrg1> wilee-nilee: yes before it I did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight3
[07:54] <blurkis> reisio, seems that after killing it several times, it asked me if I wanted to restore that page.. which I didnt, so now it works.   I mean no format
[07:54] <reisio> blurkis: yes it is
[07:54] <findmrg1> 3 is wrong mistype
[07:54] <blurkis> reisio, ah.. just disable javascript?
[07:55] <reisio> Peeyam: what says no format?
[07:55] <blurkis> reisio, thanks
[07:55] <reisio> blurkis: that would do it, yes
[07:55] <reisio> disable JS, close offending tab, enable JS again if you please
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> findmrg1, What release are you running?
[07:56] <reisio> blurkis: one (or more?) of the about:config prefs do make it possible to always ask if you want to restore upon startup, rather than just restoring
[07:56] <findmrg1> 13.04
[07:56] <reisio> resume_from_crash, maybe
[07:56] <reisio> no that can't be it
[07:56] <reisio> it's probably resume_session_once, yeah
[07:56] <reisio> set that to false
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> findmrg1, So you had a regular update last time you ran it, no proxies, no changing repos?
[07:58] <Peeyam> reisio, Let me take a pic on gparted
[07:59] <Peeyam> reisio, http://s16.postimg.org/xxkph9iv9/Screenshot_11172013_07_58_25_AM.png
[07:59] <Peeyam> reisio, http://s7.postimg.org/dcuu8dr57/Screenshot_11172013_07_58_37_AM.png
[07:59] <Peeyam> But I have windows 7 installed reisio
[08:01] <Peeyam> reisio, everything is like this when I try to install xubuntu http://imgur.com/UIWDu
[08:02] <Peeyam> reisio, it is the output of fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430650/
[08:02] <reisio> Peeyam: what device is ubuntu on?
[08:02] <Peeyam> right now it is lice usb
[08:02] <reisio> ah
[08:02] <Peeyam> I havent installed it yet
[08:02] <reisio> so you want to... resize windows 7?
[08:03] <Peeyam> I have win 7 on a partition 80 GB I want to have a dual boot with xubuntu
[08:03] <Silverrod> #india
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> holy gpt partition table bits of gpt will killyah
[08:03] <reisio> Peeyam: that's not what this fdisk output says
[08:04] <Peeyam> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430655/
[08:04] <Peeyam> reisio, I know. thats the problem.
[08:05] <reisio> what about gdisk -l /dev/sda
[08:05] <Peeyam> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[08:07] <Peeyam> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430665/
[08:08] <Peeyam> what should I choose_
[08:08] <reisio> not sure it should matter if you're using -l
[08:08] <reisio> maybe you should ask #windows how to make your partitions make sense
[08:09] <Peeyam> well it works in windows
[08:09] <Peeyam> the problem is that I can run xubuntu
[08:10] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, do you know anything_
[08:10] <Peeyam> about this
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Ubuntu can't see the windows partitions as you have gpt stuff still there, was this a W8 computer to start with?
[08:10] <reisio> the problem is you're trying to do something unexpected with Windows
[08:10] <reisio> which is a Windows problem
[08:11] <Peeyam> reisio, wilee-nilee I have find this. I just dont know if I should give it a try
[08:11] <Peeyam> http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[08:11] <binasco> hi
[08:11] <binasco> I used gparted to change ubuntu partition, but ubuntu dont have new size
[08:11] <binasco> on virtualbox
[08:12] <binasco> please help me
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, I would recommend it but backup anything you have in windows you can't loose just in case.
[08:13] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, shoud I have fixparts /dev/sdc?
[08:13] <reisio> Peeyam: ask #windows
[08:13] <Peeyam> should it be sdc?
[08:13] <Peeyam> reisio, what should I exaclt ask_
[08:13] <Peeyam> ?
[08:14] <reisio> Peeyam: 'trying to resize windows partition but gparted is confused in this specific way ${insert way}'
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, I have never actually used it, however when I was on the ubuntu forums we advised using this tool in just these situations, but I can't really safely tell you exactly how to use it is all
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, The right helpers in ##windows though know of other tools that get rid of the gpt parts so a second opinion does not hurt.
[08:17] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, can you join me there to explain the issue better?
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, I'm there already, however from reading that link I think the sdc is just an example you would use sda if the HD is sda. I hesitant to really go any farther that this, I don't like being made responsible for a whole OS.
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> I'm*
[08:23] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, are they talking to me there_
[08:23] <Peeyam> ?
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Hard to tell, they commonly don;t use nicks there, I don't think so you want help from the person I pinged.
[08:24] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, I finally figure the fixpart out
[08:24] <Peeyam> but
[08:24] <Peeyam> it asks me something
[08:25] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430715/
[08:26] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, if you go down on this page, http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/ it defines the commands. but I dont know which one I should use
[08:28] <Dudytz> hi all ... I am new to zshell. In zsh the "." (dot) not works like bash?
[08:28] <Dudytz> example: ". file.sh"
[08:28] <Peeyam> wilee-nilee, yes yesss
[08:28] <womanwholinuxlin> hi there husband get rly frustrat with me becos i no linix he cammunicat in linis on the computar and im like wat do
[08:28] <Peeyam> now it workd
[08:28] <Peeyam> It will go in to my blogg
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Does windows show now in xubuntu?
[08:29] <Peeyam> yes
[08:29] <Peeyam> the solution was to use partfix
[08:29] <reisio> womanwholinuxlin: heh
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Cool, I figured you were set I have just never used it is all.
[08:29] <Peeyam> and just save the changes with 'w'
[08:30] <Peeyam> I will note it on my blog for later usage
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> Peeyam, Good job finding that site rod is a genius, a Dr of something psychology I believe as well.
[08:30] <krz> 13.10 stable-enough?
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> krz, What's you definition of stable?
[08:32] <krz> wilee-nilee: no silly bugs
[08:32] <krz> "stable-enough"
[08:32] <krz> like the top-right icon of the task bar disappearing
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> krz, Ah silly bugs, this is open source bound to a bug for someone, its been released. ;)
[08:33] <krz> wilee-nilee: you on 13.10?
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> krz, I have it installed with 2 other linux and W8.1.
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> works fine for me
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> you see I keep my feather numbered in case of bugs
[08:39] <xmetal> ah ... we have foghorn_leghorn in here
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> That's right boy now pay attention. ;)
[08:40] <xmetal> <~~ always liked the dog better ...hehe
[08:41] <ruicruz> hi there. i've a broadband mobile card and I don't seems to quite figure it out how to use it with ubuntu. can anyone give me a hand on this?
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> nothin like a southern drawl for a good stereotype.
[08:42] <lapion> hello, is there any other place besides /var where I can find information on installed packages ?
[08:43] <ikonia> lapion: what information do you want ?
[08:44] <reisio> lapion: ask your package manager
[08:44] <wolfgang_> I would love to try out a new linux distro, one thats not to complicated, but something new, everything I have tried is ubuntu/debian based, I want something new.
[08:44] <wolfgang_> What should I try?
[08:44] <lapion> well if someone mistakenly rm /var/* is there any other place I can look to recreate a list of installed packages to use after reinstall ?
[08:44] <ikonia> wolfgang_: not really on topic for this channel
[08:44] <reisio> lapion: /var/log/apt
[08:44] <ikonia> lapion: have you done rm /var/* ?
[08:44] <reisio> oh /var :)
[08:44] <lapion> yes..
[08:45] <reisio> do you still have a DE with a list of apps?
[08:45] <wolfgang_> ikonia, Yes but im not registered with the nickserv and I I dont want to give it my email, and linux requires ncikserv
[08:45] <ikonia> lapion: ok, so your question is "I've done rm /var/* what do I need to do"
[08:45] <xmetal> try www.distrowatch.com and look at some of the reviews
[08:45] <ikonia> wolfgang_: that's not our problem, it doesn't change the topic of this channel
[08:45] <varunendra> ruicruz, give us pastebin link of "lsusb" while the modem is plugged in.
[08:46] <ruicruz> varunendra hi. just a sec.
[08:46] <lapion> i have allready done a reinstall.. but have a backup of the system after rm -rf /var/*
[08:46] <nvs> hi
[08:46] <ikonia> lapion: if you have done a re-install what is the problem then ?
[08:46] <wolfgang_> How do I register with the nick serv?
[08:47] <ikonia> wolfgang_: ask in #freenode or read freenode.net
[08:47] <lapion> need all the previously installed packages..
[08:47] <lapion> list of all the previously installed packages
[08:47] <ikonia> lapion: so you'll need to re-install them manually, your packge list history will be gone
[08:47] <ruicruz> varunendra  here, http://pastebin.com/NEvJxA3f its the first line I think
[08:48] <lapion> ikonia, I was just wondering if anywhere else that list is kept..
[08:48] <ikonia> lapion: not after you've done the re-install, could have generated a new list, but that time has past
[08:49] <lapion> too a list is no continuously saved in home directory..
[08:50]  * lapion allways puts /home on it's own partition
[08:50] <ikonia> lapion: no
[08:50] <ikonia> lapion: you could put /var on it's own partition, but it's still useless if you manually remove data
[08:51] <varunendra> ruicruz, which version of Ubuntu are you using? Does Network Manager recognize the modem?
[08:51] <lapion> well ikonia I shoudl have actually done a backup of packages list and /home every once a up-day
[08:52] <lapion> *an
[08:52] <blurkis> is there perhaps some person with knowledge in python that has a minute over to look on a simple loop that I need to work on? (in pm,)
[08:53] <ikonia> blurkis: ask in #python, this channel is for ubuntu
[08:53] <blurkis> ikonia, ok
[08:55] <ruicruz> varunendra the last TLS fresh from the site with all updates. no, only as USB storage. I try to create a connection but it does not show in the icon on top to connect to.
[08:57] <treefinguy> I'm having an issue where a Windows share accessed by just going to smb://x.x.x.x/name OR by mounting with fstab will time out after a period of inactivity. It will not reconnect unless I restart the machine and in the case of mounting I cannot unmount the file (says it's in use)
[08:58] <nvs> is there a onenote for ubuntu or something?
[08:59] <nvs> something to take notes and classify them to folders
[08:59] <lapion> thanks for the help ikonia
[09:01] <shadytv> nvs, have you tried BasKet?
[09:02] <nvs> no
[09:03] <shadytv> nvs, honestly i'm not much of a note person but I've heard some good things
[09:03] <varunendra> ruicruz, your lsusb suggests the modem has already changed its mode from storage to modem. Please replug it > post the output of "dmesg | tail -20"
[09:03] <Shako> Hi
[09:05] <nvs> i see it now, it has a lots of features but its not as polished as onenote. ill give it a try though
[09:05] <ruicruz> varunendra http://pastebin.com/mbj2WB9i is still mounted as cd-rom I think.
[09:05] <nvs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19230/microsoft-onenote-alternative
[09:05] <nvs> there are many alternatives thought thats gr8
[09:12] <irc-5225225> I managed to break X by mounting an external drive onto my home folder, now it doesn't start.
[09:12] <varunendra> ruicruz, interesting. I remember this is an old device, unfortunately, don't remember the fix. Please show us "usb-devices | grep -iB2 -A12 12d1"
[09:16] <Devising> hi
[09:18] <shadytv> irc-5225225, can you log into one of the tty's and umount it
[09:19] <ruicruz> varunendra not so old. I've it two years ago. I use ubuntu 10.x with a PCMCIA and my old laptop device, that WAS old :P and I use this one with ubuntu 10.x  awhile ago and I know I had to disable something - but I don't remember why. here is it: http://pastebin.com/TbVuGzUN
[09:19] <irc-5225225> shadytv: I rebooted it, and I couldn't umount as it was in use, even with the -f option.
[09:19] <ruicruz> why -> what
[09:19] <irc-5225225> shadytv: In some TTY's right now.
[09:19] <treefinguy> you could try -lf
[09:20] <treefinguy> I read this earlier while trying to fix my problem, irc-5225225:
[09:20] <treefinguy> The -f option forces (possibly unclean) unmounting, and the -l option is for "lazy unmounting", and seems to work around "device is busy" errors that occur with just -f.
[09:21] <irc-5225225> treefinguy: Yeah, should've done that.
[09:22] <olf-folks> binasco: how are you mounting it?
[09:22] <binasco> olf-folks: resizable
[09:23] <olf-folks> binasco: no how are you trying to mount it in ubuntu?
[09:23] <nvs> do you consider ubuntu lenses safe? or they will cause instability to my system
[09:23] <irc-5225225> treefinguy: I can attempt to send you the xorg.0.log, if that would help.
[09:24] <binasco> hi all I nedd help: I install ubuntu server with 8Gb and now need 40Gb disk space. I changed on Qparted live but my ubuntu dont see new partition size, look images: http://postimg.org/image/d4xewgeov/ http://postimg.org/image/z48sbyu65/ http://postimg.org/image/yqzc7d0a9/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430849/
[09:24] <ItsMeLenny> does somebody know where i can get VLC 2.1.1 for ubuntu 12.04?
[09:24] <treefinguy> I'm sorry, I wouldn't be any help irc-5225225. I'm pretty new to most of this stuff.
[09:25] <binasco> olf-folks: do not know
[09:26] <wilee-nilee> ItsMeLenny, The two ppa's have below and above that version.
[09:26] <binasco> olf-folks: what I look this?
[09:26] <olf-folks> binasco: i think you increased the vm disk size then enlarged the wrong partition
[09:27] <binasco> yes
[09:27] <ItsMeLenny> wilee-nilee, which ppas
[09:27] <binasco> with line command
[09:28] <wilee-nilee> ItsMeLenny, look on google with vlc ppas
[09:28] <binasco> olf-folks: VBoxManage modifyhd "/Users/fernandobinasco/VirtualBox VMs/php/php.vdi" --resize 40000
[09:28] <ItsMeLenny> in other words they dont
[09:28] <varunendra> ruicruz, please try : sudo usb_modeswitch -v 0x12d1 -p 0x1526 -M "55534243123456780000000000000011062000000100000000000000000000"
[09:28] <olf-folks> binasco: i would shrink sda5 a bit then grow sda1 in gparted
[09:28] <ItsMeLenny> ive looked on google and added multiple ppas, none of them contain higher that version
[09:28] <_munti> ItsMeLenny: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc
[09:28] <varunendra> ruicruz, then check dmesg to see if it changed its mode
[09:28] <shadytv> irc-5225225, could you please pastebin that log file id like to look at it
[09:29] <lionrouge> hi! tell me please what CFLAGS are used to compile ubuntu packages?
[09:29] <ItsMeLenny> _munti, it does not contain precise packages
[09:29] <irc-5225225> shadytv: Is there any way to pastebin from the CLI
[09:29] <_munti> ItsMeLenny: try this one,  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/vlc2
[09:29] <ItsMeLenny> plus both the builds of it are broken
[09:29] <wilee-nilee> ItsMeLenny, The daily is 2.2 I did not check if 12.04 was supported though
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> _munti, that has an even older version than what i have
[09:30] <binasco> olf-folks: I try this now
[09:30] <shadytv> irc-5225225, good point...
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> wilee-nilee, the daily has 2.1.1 in it
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> no not even that
[09:30] <binasco> olf-folks: you see the command line I paste
[09:30] <ItsMeLenny> https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily/+packages
[09:30] <binasco> ?
[09:31] <irc-5225225> shadytv: found pastebinit.
[09:31] <treefinguy> does anyone know why my mounted windows shares time out after a period of inactivity or what I could do to make them not time out?
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> ah i found it
[09:31] <binasco> olf-folks: i chose sd5 =/
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> thanks guys
[09:31] <irc-5225225> shadytv: http://www.pastebin.com/rCSkdhzr should work.
[09:32] <irc-5225225> I did have to manually copy it from another TTY, so there might be a typo in the ID
[09:32] <olf-folks> binasco: yeah i think you should have grew sda1
[09:32] <irc-5225225> that's the xorg.0.log, there's also a xorg.0.log.old if you want that as well.
[09:33] <binasco> olf-folks: wow... I make ricght click and activate .. now sda1 have 40Gb... reboot for test
[09:33] <olf-folks> binasco: it dose not really need 40gb for the first partition but ok
[09:34] <wr0ngnull> hello
[09:34] <wr0ngnull> guyz
[09:35] <lecoeus> sup wr0ngnull
[09:35] <wr0ngnull> how are you lecoeus
[09:35] <lecoeus> not bad
[09:35] <ruicruz> varunendra when I disconnect it comes back as a CD-ROM: http://pastebin.com/zaj5eXG0
[09:35] <wr0ngnull> hmmmm
[09:35] <binasco> olf-folks: dont work
[09:35] <wr0ngnull> bro i have problem
[09:36] <wr0ngnull> to connect dongle in back track 5
[09:36] <wr0ngnull> any help
[09:36] <olf-folks> binasco: more details on dont work?
[09:36] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack
[09:36] <shadytv> irc-5225225, sweet let me look through this file
[09:36] <irc-5225225> shadytv: xorg.0.log.old?
[09:37] <irc-5225225> there's an xorg.log.1, but it's empty.
[09:37] <wr0ngnull> but the back track 5 r3 is good os
[09:37] <binasco> olf-folks: yes, sda5 back to 7Gb... wait screenshot
[09:37] <shadytv> irc-5225225, you might as well
[09:37] <wr0ngnull> hauwei data card how i can connect
[09:38] <wr0ngnull> in back track
[09:38] <wr0ngnull> any full tutorial
[09:38] <wilee-nilee> wr0ngnull, read the bots message
[09:38] <varunendra> ruicruz, so the "usb_modeswitch" command worked it seems. Did network manager detect it as modem in that mode? Did you try to set up a connection?
[09:38] <binasco> olf-folks: http://postimg.org/image/fnfchc18d/
[09:38] <olf-folks> wr0ngnull: backtrack is old, lookup kali-linux
[09:38] <irc-5225225> shadytv: uKSgp4ce
[09:39] <shadytv> how long have you had this problem? this will help with the digging?
[09:39] <ruicruz> hold on. going to retry that varunendra
[09:39] <irc-5225225> shadytv: just happened
[09:39] <shadytv> sweet then ill just need the current log file
[09:39] <wr0ngnull> this command not work now usb_modeswitch
[09:40] <irc-5225225> shadytv: where's that? /var/log/?
[09:40] <olf-folks> binasco: you may want to re install your server in a new vm and set it up right
[09:40] <ruicruz> yap it works varunendra. now... do I need to do that manualy or is there any automated way? :)
[09:41] <irc-5225225> shadytv: those two are the only files that have text in them
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> hay plz solve my problem
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> any one who's knows it
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> wr0ngnull, backtrack is not supported here.
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> ohh really
[09:41] <wr0ngnull> wilee-nilee
[09:41] <shadytv> irc-5225225, i have the file im looking for just give me a minute
[09:42] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack > wr0ngnull
[09:42] <olf-folks> i dont think back track has been supported or updated by anyone in a minute
[09:42] <varunendra> ruicruz, there is definitely a way to automate it, but I'm not sure which one is best or easiest. Let's try a few ones. Give me a sec.
[09:42] <binasco> olf-folks: I'm getting convinced that it is the easiest option ...
[09:42] <wilee-nilee> !root > wr0ngnull
[09:43] <wr0ngnull> but how i can see in a message
[09:43] <binasco> olf-folks: very thanks for your attention
[09:43] <wr0ngnull> i chat first time
[09:43] <ruicruz> varunendra thanks. and even if there is none, you just save my day :)
[09:43] <irc-5225225> shadytv: I'll be back in 5 to 10 minutes. Could you PM me what the problem is so I don't miss it?
[09:43] <shadytv> irc-5225225, try apt-get install xfonts-cyrillic
[09:44] <irc-5225225> shadytv: then try rebooting?
[09:44] <olf-folks> binasco: as other dude said http://paste.debian.net/66243/
[09:44] <varunendra> ruicruz, no problem :) Looks like the easiest way is to just copy a file from 13.04 (or later) into your /usr/share/usb_modeswitch directory. Or you can create that file..
[09:44] <shadytv> yes that should help
[09:45] <irc-5225225> alright.
[09:45] <irc-5225225> hopefully it fixed it.
[09:46] <wr0ngnull> -bash: /usr/share/usb_modeswitch: No such file or directory
[09:46] <shadytv> sorry this is my first time on an irc ive mostly just been lurking. dont really know how to do PMs :(
[09:46] <wr0ngnull> this is show
[09:46] <varunendra> ruicruz, there is a tar.gz file in that directory (/usr/share/usb_modeswitch). Open it, and extract any of the 12d1:15.... files
[09:47] <irc-5225225> shadytv: I belive it's /tell
[09:47] <irc-5225225> nope.
[09:47] <irc-5225225> yeah, it's /msg.
[09:48] <lecoeus> query
[09:48] <olf-folks> join #kalilinux
[09:48] <olf-folks> srry
[09:49] <wr0ngnull> hi
[09:53] <ruicruz> varunendra done
[09:55] <varunendra> ruicruz, wherever you have extracted it (hope desktop), edit it in text editor to make it look exactly like this (copy pasted from original "12d1:1526" file from 13.04 live cd) : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6430984/
[09:56] <varunendra> ruicruz, then save it as "12d1:1526" > copy it back to /usr/share/usb_modeswitch (sudo cp "12d1:1526" /usr/share/usb_modeswitch). Hope that's all we need.
[09:58] <Nuclear_muffin> How Do I update I Graphics card drivers?
[09:59] <ruicruz> varunendra so, it shoud look like this in the folder?
[09:59] <ruicruz> 12d1:1526  configPack.tar.gz
[09:59] <ruicruz> ?
[10:00] <varunendra> ruicruz, yeah, I'm not very sure though. We'll add it to the archive if the separate file doesn't do the job
[10:02] <ruicruz> ok. hold on.
[10:03] <olf-folks> wr0
[10:05] <ruicruz> varunendra no, didn't work. also, I don't have a 1526 file. I created it. is that wrong? I only have (last digits) 05 21 23 26 53 and 57.
[10:06] <varunendra> ruicruz, that file doesn't exist in 12.04. So you did need to create it. Are the contents same as the pastebin link I gave?
[10:06] <ruicruz> yes.
[10:06] <ruicruz> created with the content of your pastebin.
[10:07] <corollax> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-aurora/+bug/1251976 What are the odds of getting this fixed?
[10:09] <kakka> hi all, all my NTFS partitions are now in read only mode, how to get rid of it, i reinstalled NTFS-3G STtill no luck, how to solve that problem, i am using UBUNTU 12.04 lts 32 BIT
[10:09] <jost> kakka: what does the corresponding line from /etc/fstab say?
[10:09] <skialp> hello
[10:10] <reisio> 'lo
[10:10] <skialp> !list
[10:11] <kakka> let me see
[10:11] <varunendra> ruicruz, try copying that file (12d1:1526) to /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/
[10:12] <Nuclear_muffin> What is the command for adding a PPA?
[10:13] <Nuclear_muffin> ?
[10:13] <kakka> jost: Thanks, but these entries were not there eariler, they are automatically added , i don;t know how, but i will delete them, except ext4 and swap entries and reboot, and see the changes
[10:14] <trijntje> !addppa
[10:14] <Stuffagain> Anyone know why my wireless keeps asking for my password, and doesn't hold a connection?
[10:15] <ruicruz> varunendra no luck... is there a way to crease a script to execute with or to do like msconfig in windows and add this line when I boot the OS? this is just me thinking, this is way out of my linux experience.
[10:15] <Nuclear_muffin> trijntje, thank you
[10:15] <ruicruz> crease -> create
[10:17] <wilee-nilee> cough elementaryOS
[10:18]  * PatrickDickey doesn't have elementaryOS installed anywhere, but uses their wallpapers for his phone.
[10:19] <varunendra> ruicruz, I forgot a step !! The /etc/usb_modeswitch.d is the correct location for the custom file, but we also need to add a udev rule to tell the OS to run usb_modeswitch (and 'THEN' it will use that custom file).
[10:20] <irc-5225225> buffer 4
[10:22] <Zap-W> is there a driver for SIS M672 chip on 13.10 ??
[10:22] <ruicruz> varunendra ok, got it to the right path. about the udev, how can I proceed?
[10:22] <excognac> hi karthus i bumped into your nick u play lol under linux?
[10:24] <varunendra> ruicruz, I think this is a perfect post for what is left to be done (ignore the part after editing the "/lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules" file) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074518&p=12310000#post12310000
[10:24] <varunendra> ruicruz, in short, you just need to add one line of a new rule to that file, and done !
[10:26] <varunendra> ruicruz, let me know if you need a step by step help with that. And definitely let us all know the outcome :)
[10:26] <ruicruz> ok got it varunendra. if I need anything else I will let you know. thank you so much for your help. really.
[10:28] <varunendra> ruicruz, you're welcome ! It refreshed my knowledge too.. :)
[10:30] <pailaps> morning fellas
[10:30] <pailaps> just a quick question, how does one update grub via a live-cd?
[10:30] <pailaps> i did the following things
[10:31] <pailaps> first mount /dev/sda1 ( containing the ubuntu partition ) /mnt
[10:31] <pailaps> changed /etc/default/grub like i needed
[10:31] <pailaps> then mount -bind sys, proc, dev
[10:31] <pailaps> and ran update-grub
[10:32] <pailaps> for some reason it complains it cannot find /dev
[10:32] <Togusa> did chroot?
[10:33] <pailaps> Togusa , yes i forgot
[10:34] <pailaps> i did sudo chroot /mnt
[10:34] <pailaps> i just changed the parameter nosplash quiet to nomodeset
[10:34] <Togusa> what does it say, exactly?
[10:34] <pailaps> so it would work on ati graphics cards
[10:34] <pailaps> it crashed atm
[10:35] <pailaps> ill try to reboot and see if it works again
[10:35] <Togusa> i meant
[10:35] <Togusa> the "cannot find /dev" error line is incomplete
[10:35] <Togusa> what's the full line?
[10:35] <PatrickDickey> pailaps: Did you remove nosplash and quiet, or just add the nomodeset to the end of the line?
[10:35] <pailaps> i did remote nosplash and quiet
[10:35] <pailaps> just "nomodeset"
[10:35] <irc-5225225> shadytv: it worked, thank you!
[10:35] <pailaps> err remove*
[10:36] <Togusa> keep in mind that on some computers when you boot from something else (especially if it's using UEFI)
[10:36] <PatrickDickey> Not that I'm sure they are needed, but you might want to put them back in before the nomodeset.
[10:36] <Togusa> they might swap the priority of the drives
[10:36] <Togusa> i.e.: you boot from a USB stick, your primary drive might become /dev/sdb
[10:36] <pailaps> i should doublecheck that
[10:36] <wilee-nilee> pailaps, How did you change /etc/default/grub?
[10:36] <pailaps> thanks guys , but my computer is dead in the water
[10:37] <pailaps> wilee-nilee, just opened it with vi
[10:37] <pailaps> and edited the parts i needed
[10:37] <wilee-nilee> pailaps, No, what is it you needed?
[10:37] <Togusa> the issue is not the file, but the fact that update-grub fails
[10:37] <pailaps> yea
[10:37] <pailaps> but i cant look any further atm, because i have to fix the underlying issue
[10:38] <pailaps> it doesnt boot at all
[10:38] <pailaps> hardware issue probably
[10:38] <Togusa> not even the livecd?
[10:38] <pailaps> Togusa, nope
[10:38] <Togusa> that sucks
[10:38] <pailaps> says just Boot error
[10:38] <shadytv> irc-5225225, glad i could help :)
[10:38] <wilee-nilee> pailaps, You have to chroot before doing any of that, could the bootrepair app maybe fix this?
[10:38] <Togusa> yeah watchout for the boot repair thing
[10:39] <Togusa> i have a UEFI laptop and since i've installed from USB
[10:39] <Togusa> the usb stick became /dev/sda
[10:39] <Togusa> and the installer partitioned that one automatically
[10:39] <Togusa> and nuked the installer
[10:39] <Togusa> :D
[10:39] <wilee-nilee> lucky you hehe
[10:40] <Togusa> i'm using legacy boot mode right now, 'cause the netinst ISO doesn't support UEFI :/
[10:40] <wilee-nilee> nope
[10:42]  * PatrickDickey mental note. Make sure my next laptop has a DVD Drive. :S
[10:42] <Organicanarchy> is Ubuntu a good option for a 1.6ghz cpu with 2 gig of ram?
[10:42] <Togusa> PatrickDickey: i regret having it :/
[10:43] <Togusa> they're fragile, they're not used anymore...and if you really need one, you can always get an USB one
[10:43] <Togusa> Organicanarchy: maybe not with Unity
[10:43] <PatrickDickey> Organicanarchy: Sure. If it seems slow, you can always switch to a lighter desktop environment.
[10:44] <PatrickDickey> I'd suggest either Kubuntu or maybe Lubuntu though Organicanarchy.
[10:44] <Organicanarchy> PatrickDickey: I KNOW I wont be using Unity
[10:44] <Organicanarchy> I was gonna try gnome3 or xfce I think
[10:44] <CiSense> hi, I have 13.04 and XP installed and want to add 13.10. When I boot 13.10 from USB and select install other it asks for the "boot loader installation" partition, is that the new partition where 13.10 should be installed?
[10:45] <Togusa> i think xfce is a better choice for those specs
[10:45] <Organicanarchy> I think so too, I want to run ChromiumOS, it seems REALLY cool, but I need a system that can run wine
[10:45] <PatrickDickey> CiSense: Out of curiosity, why don't you want to just upgrade 13.04 to 13.10?
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> CiSense: that should be the start of the drive e.g. /dev/sda
[10:46] <CiSense> PatrickDickey,  because 13.04 upgrade has recalculate errors and I do not want to undo my working system
[10:47] <Togusa> i don't think that using the CD is so much different than upgrading a live system..am i wrong?
[10:47] <[Gentoo]> Togusa: what do you mean?
[10:47] <pailaps> nope, it just changes the packages
[10:47] <CiSense> [Gentoo],  is that where the grub boot loader is located for 13.04 and XP?
[10:47] <pailaps> no differences
[10:47] <[Gentoo]> CiSense: usually
[10:48] <CiSense> [Gentoo], ok so *not* the new partition
[10:48] <pailaps> Organicanarchy, i might suggest even Enlightment based ubuntu distributions
[10:48] <Togusa> [Gentoo]: i thought that upgrading via CD is the same as setting the repository to what you have on disc and issuing a dist-upgrade
[10:48] <pailaps> looks awsome :>
[10:48] <Togusa> *was
[10:48] <[Gentoo]> Togusa: oh not sure
[10:49] <[Gentoo]> iwould guess so
[10:52] <ruicruz> varunendra it works. :>
[10:52] <ruicruz> (3g modem thing, 30 mins ago)
[10:52] <ruicruz> :)
[10:52] <varunendra> ruicruz, Yay ! :)
[10:52] <ruicruz> tks one more time.
[10:53] <varunendra> anytime ! :)
[11:04] <moppy> On saucy, my SDCards are mounting in read only mode only ... no idea why. They don't have write protect switches.
[11:04] <user2_> why do i see 'sudo: cd: command not found'
[11:04] <moppy> I can format them from disk manager though ... then they remount readonly again :(
[11:06] <Sven_vB> user2_, there's probably no "cd" program itself, as it wouldn't make much sense. try opening a root shell (sudo -s) and then there issue your cd command.
[11:06] <moppy> now i have an odd error: "Cannot mount /dev/sdb1 at /var/run/udisks2/block-format-tos-6VzOGS: Too many levels of symbolic links (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[11:06] <[Gentoo]> yes cd is a builtin command
[11:06] <user2_> Sven_vB: great, thanks
[11:08] <user2_> can i mount another users data with one command using sudo
[11:08] <user2_> as in /home/other_user/stuff
[11:10] <Sven_vB> user2_, where's the other users' data stored?
[11:10] <jgcampbell300> has anyone here used backup pc ... i am looking for opinion of this software
[11:10] <user2_> Sven_vB: under home
[11:10] <[Gentoo]> jgcampbell300: theres other ways
[11:11] <Sven_vB> also, take a step back: what's the intention, why would you wanna mount it?
[11:11] <[Gentoo]> dno what "backup pc is
[11:11] <reisio> jgcampbell300: never heard of it
[11:11] <[Gentoo]> jgcampbell300: clonezilla and rsync will do anything
[11:11] <user2_> Sven_vB: i just want to get my files under the other user account, the txt files say its been unmounted
[11:11] <user2_> Sven_vB:  'THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA.'
[11:11] <jgcampbell300> im accualy looking for something that will do backup for large number of pc's and servers
[11:11] <reisio> jgcampbell300: looks like yet another frontend to rsync
[11:12] <jgcampbell300> ya it uses rsync
[11:12] <reisio> jgcampbell300: you want 1:1 backups, or incremental?
[11:12] <moppy> i think i have tracked down the problem to user groups - now where did the user group editor go in the unity gui? users doesnt seem to do it anymore (yes I can do it from terminal but where is that gui gone?)
[11:12] <jgcampbell300> incremental with compression if possable
[11:12] <Sven_vB> user2_, is there a removable device involved?
[11:12] <reisio> jgcampbell300: look into rdiff-backup
[11:12] <user2_> Sven_vB:  no
[11:13] <jgcampbell300> k thanks
[11:13] <user2_> Sven_vB: just seems like standard procedure, the other user's data is unmounted for privacy or something
[11:13] <Sven_vB> user2_, oh, then maybe encrypted home directories are in place?
[11:13] <nima__> poweruser looking for a terminal emulator: fullscreen, tabbed, windowed, borderless (nothing but prompt when tabbed), font resize. Also with keyboard shortcuts for mentioned features
[11:14] <user2_> Sven_vB: nah
[11:14] <nima__> essentially want iterm 2 for ubuntu >:/
[11:14] <ruicruz> varunendra can I count on you for another thing? do you know of a full magnification software? acessibility in unbuty only have a portion of the screen, I was looking for a full window magnification.
[11:14] <reisio> gnome-terminal will probably suffice
[11:14] <user2_> Sven_vB: the directory just has two files, 'Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop' and readme.txt
[11:15] <nima__> infact windows has conemu which also has mentioned features
[11:15] <Sven_vB> ok, i'll try find what creates such files
[11:15] <[Gentoo]> nima__: any full featured terminal will do them
[11:15] <nima__> reisio: gnome-terminal i can't make the tab bar disappear otherwise it does do the above
[11:15] <[Gentoo]> urxvt etc will take some tweaking
[11:15] <[Gentoo]> and tabs might not be what you expect
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> good day to all
[11:15] <reisio> nima__: you want tabs but no bar?
[11:16] <varunendra> ruicruz, I don't have experience with that, only tried some compiz features at experimental level once, nothing beyond that :(
[11:16] <nima__> Gentoo: yeah i had a go with urxvt and i couldn't get the fonts and colours to work
[11:16] <nima__> gentoo: and yeah tabs not what i was expecting irc
[11:16] <[Gentoo]> nima__: its all done in .Xresources
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an alternative for the package 'prey' an anti-theft utility for laptops, any hints?
[11:16] <ruicruz> varunendra compiz... tried some but not that. let me check. thanks anyway. :)
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[11:16] <jgcampbell300> reisio, do you know if rdiff-backup will handle mac and win as well ?
[11:17] <[Gentoo]> nima__: but its a great terminal and really fast and light
[11:17] <nima__> reisio: i use tmux and mutliple machines - so a window is a task, a tab is a machine, and tmux something i'm doing on the machine
[11:17] <reisio> jgcampbell300: rdiff-backup backs up data that it sees
[11:17] <Sven_vB> user2_, as i thought, there's encryption happening, although maybe not for the entire home directory. (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory ) so the easiest way probably would be to login as that user, copy the files to a place where boht users have access, and then read them from there.
[11:17] <uncle_ben> i know at a bash shell if you append a command with '&' it will background the process so you can return to a prompt, but when i invoke a vncserver, i need to hit the enter key again to actually get a prompt. how can i get to the prompt without having the press the enter key again?
[11:17] <varunendra> ruicruz, with mouse (not touchpad) the "Enhanced Zoom Desktop" feature worked pretty well for me
[11:17] <jgcampbell300> reisio, cool ... thanks again
[11:17] <reisio> nima__: then how doesn't gnome-terminal work, again?
[11:17] <nima__> Gentoo: yeah it was close - right now using terminology (enlightenment/bodhi)
[11:18] <nima__> resisio: i can't hide the tab bar and it is hideous for me
[11:18] <reisio> nima__: you want tabs but no bar?
[11:18] <moppy> ok it seems they removed gnome system tools in saucy  - found it now
[11:19] <user2_> Sven_vB: trouble is i cannot login as that user, i have an xinit error when i run startx
[11:19] <user2_> Sven_vB: are you familiar with this type of issue
[11:19] <[Gentoo]> nima__: whats terminology like? im not a big fan of enlightenment stuff and though it looked a bit cheesy
[11:20] <ruicruz> varunendra this is for an eee pc so no mouse. anyway I've time. I can search programs... but without internet I can't. you solve the first prob :) thanks
[11:20] <nima__> reisio: yes tab feature no signs of tab but when i ctrl+pgup to switch tabs
[11:20] <nima__> reisio: iterm2 has an auto hide for tab bar
[11:21] <Sven_vB> user2_, do you have another machine on network that has X working? then you could try X SSH forwarding to use that other machine's X to login
[11:21] <[Gentoo]> user2_: what xinit error?
[11:21] <[Gentoo]> not command not found?
[11:21] <nima__> gentoo: terminology is promising - very much still in development - no shortcuts for some things, but otherwise smooth and pertty on my rig
[11:21] <varunendra> ruicruz, maybe post a thread in ubuntuforums. IRC can be great, but only when right people are logged in and are watching.
[11:21] <user2_> Sven_vB: the one user can't use startx, but a new user on same machine/os can
[11:22] <user2_> [Gentoo]: one moment
[11:22] <nima__> gentoo: haven't really tested advanced features and font resize doesn't result in a column/row number changes just content off screen :P
[11:22] <[Gentoo]> idk
[11:22] <Sven_vB> user2_, then i'd try SSH X forwarding to localhost, and log into the broken account via SSH
[11:22] <nima__> reisio gentoo: thanks anyways i figured as much if friends/google couldn't tell me of a terminal emulator as good as conemu and iterm 2
[11:22] <user2_> 'xinit: connection to x server lost' just after 'loading extension AMDXVBA
[11:22] <user2_> '
[11:23] <user2_> Sven_vB: i can log into broken account command line, but want gui
[11:23] <reisio> considering a hiding tab bar as "goodness" is a stretch, but you like what you like :p
[11:24] <Sven_vB> user2_, that's why i suggest using SSH with X forwarding. ssh will share the working X with the broken account, so it can use that instead.
[11:24] <ruicruz> varunendra going to test this http://www.magnifiers.org/links/Screen_Magnifiers/UNIX_Linux/ if not I'd go with the forums :)
[11:25] <user2_> Sven_vB: isnt that a bandaid solution?
[11:25] <Sven_vB> user2_, now that i think of it, it woul probably also work to use just su -iu broken
[11:25] <Sven_vB> err i mean sudo -iu broken
[11:25] <user2_> Sven_vB: id like that other account to be back to normal, although at least getting the files through  SSH with X forwarding would be nice
[11:26] <Lightsword> anyone know the proper way to set up a nfsv3 server on ubuntu server 13.10 with static ports and no ip range limits?
[11:26] <Sven_vB> but not sure if sudo -iu will arrange the X access cookie. or if that is even necessary
[11:27] <user2_> Sven_vB: how/when would i use that command
[11:27] <user2_> [Gentoo]: any advise?
[11:27] <user2_> [Gentoo]: any advice?*
[11:27] <Sven_vB> user2_, open a terminal window inside the working x, then use sudo -iu broken to acquire user broken's login
[11:28] <Sven_vB> -u sets the username you want to sudo into
[11:29] <user2_> Sven_vB: oh, sounds good, but i get this msg: Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private' after 'Signature not found in user keyring'
[11:30] <Sven_vB> ok.. so after sudo -iu, you should have a shell prompt that shows the broken user's name, - does it work to that extent already?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Lightsword: not sure if this is updated for 13.10, but maybe it helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto
[11:31] <Ben64> user2_: whats the actual problem you're trying to resolve and how was it caused?
[11:31] <Lightsword> lotuspsychje I found that, problem is thats for nfsv4 and I need nfsv3
[11:32] <Sven_vB> Ben64, encrypted private directory, and the user with the key in its keyring lost ability to start X
[11:32] <Ben64> Lightsword: click the section that has v3 in it?
[11:33] <Ben64> Sven_vB: ew, thats why i advise against encryption
[11:33] <Lightsword> Well, I need to disable nfsv4 as well, and disable all authentication
[11:33] <bekks> Sven_vB: you dont need the keyring to decrypt the home. you need the password ;)
[11:33] <bekks> Lightsword: nfsv has not auth, while nfsv4 does.
[11:33] <Sven_vB> Ben64, encryption is nice if you organize it yourself and thus know where the data and keys are :))
[11:33] <Lightsword> basically need to remap uid/gid's to have full r/w access
[11:34] <bekks> Lightsword: nfsv3 has no auth, while nfsv4 does.
[11:34] <user2_> Ben64: i try and login with user1 account, but it shows black screen then goes back to login screen, i used ctrl+alt+f1 to login that way, then run startx, startx goes through some motions but says ultimately, 'xinit: connection to x server lost'.  so i created a new user and alls fine with that, but i want to fix the old broken account.
[11:34] <Lightsword> bekks doesn't nfsv3 have uid/gid authentication?