[04:37] <flammenwurfer> Today, my ubuntu boxee box stopped booting normally.  It gets stuck at "fsck from util-linux-ng /dev/sda1: clean, ..."
[04:37] <Speiros> pepee: Okay.  I am in SDC1
[04:37] <pepee> Speiros, can you write on it?
[04:37] <j800r> yo, anyone know where xchat plugins/scripts are stored? :\
[04:37] <IdleOne> j800r: ~/.xchat2
[04:38] <h00k> j800r: check the hidden folder ~/.xchat2 (/home/username/.xchat2/)
[04:38] <flammenwurfer> I have an external hdd and if I comment out it's fstab entry the computer boots normally
[04:38] <Speiros> pepee: No, it says the specified location is not supported
[04:38] <andyzweb> what other kernel boot options are there like noapic and irqpoll and other things like that
[04:40] <pepee> Speiros, don't know what that message means , but if you can write on it, is because those mount options are incorrect...
[04:40] <andyzweb> is there anything ACHI related?
[04:40] <hotfloppy> my APTonCD crash while loading the packages.. FATAL -> Failed to fork. Whats seems to be the problem ?
[04:40] <Speiros> pepee: I tried to copy files to it, but it gave me that message under show more details.
[04:41] <pepee> andyzweb, http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[04:41] <Speiros> pepee: the exact error message was "Error while copying to :/:.  There was an error getting information about the destination."  Then it said under show more details what I wrote.
[04:42] <underdog1227> Can someone tell how I can download the broadcom restricted hardware drive to a USB stick please?
[04:42] <underdog1227> *driver
[04:43] <pepee> Speiros, are you sure you are in /media/sdc1?
[04:43] <IdleOne> underdog1227: packages.ubuntu.com maybe?
[04:44] <Speiros> pepee: I will search again for media, and let you know mate
[04:44] <Speiros> pepee: Yes
[04:44] <underdog1227> IdleOne: okay, let me try
[04:45] <pepee> Speiros, hmm ok
[04:45] <Speiros> pepee: The file is in media, but relates to being under the main hard drive.  Is this how it should be?
[04:45] <Sirbeblazed> i need some help im new to ubuntu and i have 10.04 install with the latest kernel and everything set up fine except one thing i installed wine and i think it messed up my ntfs mounting because now i have drives that are not mounted but they are just copies of the drives that are mounted i uninstalled wine, still the drives are there any ideas?
[04:46] <pepee> Speiros, sudo umount -l /dev/sdc1; sudo mount -t vfat -o defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000 /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
[04:46] <Speiros> pepee: okay
[04:47] <Speiros> pepee: Should that be unmount or umount at first?
[04:47] <pepee> umount
[04:47] <Speiros> Thanks
[04:48] <pepee> Speiros, did it work?
[04:49] <Speiros> pepee: It says it is not mounted under umount, and then says for mount, "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[04:49] <Speiros> pepee: Thanks for your help in this mate, whether it works or not man.  Much appreciated.
[04:50] <pepee> Speiros, format it.
[04:50] <andyzweb> what sort of troubbleshooting steps can help diagnose why hardware would not show up in lspci
[04:50] <jhambo> I'm running the "non OSE" virtualbox and it seems that I need to recompile the module almost every single day because of Ubuntu updates.  I never had to do that so often in debian.  Is Ubuntu really updating the kernel almost every day??
[04:50] <pepee> Speiros, use gparted, or something like that
[04:50] <Speiros> pepee: Okay.  I'll see what I can do.
[04:51] <muskask8> Hello, I have a sound blaster ca0106 sound card, and when I first upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 there was sound, but now there is no sound. What do I do to fix this?
[04:51] <pepee> andyzweb, did it work under the live cd?
[04:51] <qwiksilver711> muskask: are you sure you're not muted
[04:52] <pepee> jhambo, nope, ubuntu doesn't upgrade the kernel so often
[04:52] <muskask8> yes I've checked everything
[04:52] <pepee> jhambo, you may check your repos
[04:52] <muskask8> that I know of haha
[04:52] <pepee> ** may want to check
[04:53] <jhambo> pepee: just running whatever the default repositories are
[04:53] <pepee> jhambo, uname -r
[04:53] <andyzweb> pepee: not yet but there was some combination of options that got it to work earlier tonight
[04:53] <jhambo> pepee: 2.6.32-22-generic
[04:54] <pepee> andyzweb, try installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[04:54] <flammenwurfer> Can somebody help me figure out why my comp won't boot when I have my external hdd entry in fstab?
[04:54] <Speiros> pepee: Is it correct to format it back to the fat32 file system?  I want it to be able to be opened on various computers.
[04:55] <pepee> jhambo, 2.6.32-23-generic here
[04:55] <flammenwurfer> If i comment the entry out it boots fine, and if I then uncomment the entry and do a mount -a it mounts fine.  But if I try to reboot with it uncommented it hangs on boot.
[04:56] <pepee> Speiros, hmm don't really know, but IIRC it will be fully compatible. anyway, you can try formatting it in windows
[04:56] <muskask8> Hello, I have a sound blaster ca0106 sound card, and when I first upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 there was sound, but now there is no sound. What do I do to fix this?
[04:57] <kasansweat> Does anyone know of a quick way to toggle Samba shares on and off? I'd like them available when I'm at home, and unavailable while away. Something a little more elegant than the "steathcopter" script that shows up in google results.
[04:57] <Speiros> pepee: It was successful.
[04:57] <pepee> kasansweat, stopping the service?
[04:58] <Dangelmo1> hi everybody!
[04:58] <pepee> Speiros, heh, good to know
[04:58] <pepee> !hi | Dangelmo1
[04:58] <flammenwurfer> Nobody?
[04:58] <Speiros> pepee: And it is recognised in Places.  Man, thanks heaps!!  Are you in Aust?  I'll buy you a beer, but if not, I hope to be able to give back if the future ventures work out.
[04:58] <TUplink> is there a way to use a webcam on another box maybe threw NFS?
[04:58] <SwedeMike> kasansweat: look into firewalling it at certain times, I'd imagine time based firewall rules are more common than time based availability of smb shares
[04:58] <kasansweat> pepee; yeah, that's essentially what that little script does -- given that ubuntu has come up with more elegant solutions (buttons and such) to other problems, I was just wondering if there was some manager or something out there that I've missed.
[04:59] <pepee> Speiros, just come back and help other people :D
[04:59] <jhambo> pepee: all I'm saying is that in debian I had to run `/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup` only very rarely, whereas in ubuntu it seems like I run it almost every day (twice today).  It seems I have to run it most times after ubuntu installs "bug fixes".
[04:59] <Speiros> pepee: Yeah, I will log this one and try to remember how it worked.  Thanks man.
[04:59] <doyle> How long should it take to make koffice 2.1.2?
[04:59] <pepee> kasansweat, that's what I do. ubuntu is annoying in that sense...
[05:00] <muskask8> Hello, I have a sound blaster ca0106 sound card, and when I first upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 there was sound, but now there is no sound. What do I do to fix this?
[05:00] <pepee> Speiros, no problem
[05:00] <Speiros> pepee: At this time, unfortunately, I am at the lower end of the seesaw, and the help is constantly flowing towards me.  One day maybe, I can pour it back.
[05:00] <pepee> muskask8, try reconfiguring some packages
[05:00] <muskask8> like what?
[05:01] <pepee> Speiros, well, just do it if you can
[05:01] <Speiros> :)
[05:02] <ech0Asus> please help.. http://pastebin.com/MFGvwwxA
[05:02] <sweetpi> flammenwurfer: try using the uuid in fstab instead of the partition
[05:02] <pepee> muskask8, hmm something related to alsa...
[05:02] <pepee> muskask8, don't really know, but you can try
[05:03] <pepee> muskask8, also, check if the correct module is running
[05:03] <gio> hello anyone for help
[05:03] <pepee> !help | gio
[05:03] <hotfloppy> gio: just ask..
[05:03] <annodomini_> Once I've added a PPA to my apt sources, how do I install a version of a package from that PPA?
[05:03] <gio> gksu doesnt work for me
[05:03] <hotfloppy> flammenwurfer: use blkid tu check your devices UUID
[05:03] <hotfloppy> gio: try gksudo
[05:03] <gio> it says import error gksu2
[05:03] <annodomini_> In particular, I'd like to install the kernel from https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/linux-kamal-scien in order to test if that fixes a problem with sleep on my laptop.
[05:03] <pepee> annodomini, do a packages update
[05:04] <ech0Asus> i can't package anything now...
[05:04] <gio> so my applications wont start like synaptic package manager
[05:04] <pepee> annodomini, oh, try searching for that specific package in the package manager
[05:04] <gio> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478382 plz look at the thread
[05:05] <gio> that gksu.py screwed something
[05:05] <pepee> gio, try reinstalling it
[05:05] <gio> reinstalling what
[05:05] <pepee> gio, from console: sudo aptitude reinstall gksu
[05:06] <flammenwurfer> sweetpi:  I am already using the uuid, and actually the system has been working fine and I haven't changed anything.
[05:06] <flammenwurfer> It just started doing this today
[05:06] <h00k> gio: sudo apt-get install python-gtk2
[05:06] <annodomini_> pepee: can you be more specific? Which package manager? What command should I run?
[05:06] <pepee> flammenwurfer, what about not usng the uuid as identifier?
[05:06] <gio> it is already latest
[05:06] <gio> h00k
[05:07] <pepee> gio, from console: sudo aptitude reinstall python-gtk2
[05:08] <pepee> annodomini, package manager, the app from which you can update your system
[05:08] <sweetpi> flammenwurfer: whats happening before it hangs?
[05:08] <gio> about fprint it doesnt work always and keeps saying aes2501:error [dev_init] could not claim interface 0
[05:09] <ech0Asus> i can't install anything now
[05:09] <pepee> ech0Asus, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:10] <gio> pepee can i do something about it?
[05:10] <pepee> gio, did that command work?
[05:10] <ech0Asus> i have error still
[05:10] <pepee> gio, don't know what fprint is
[05:10] <gio> no still it shows
[05:10] <EdGred> im using lucid lynx and am trying to figure how to updrage python from 2.6 to 3.1
[05:11] <pepee> ech0Asus, paste the error on pastebin
[05:11] <littlebear> pepee: file print
[05:11] <flammenwurfer> sweetpi:  if I use /dev/sdb2 instead of the uuid I get the same thing
[05:11] <crdlb> EdGred: what do you want 3.x for?
[05:11] <ech0Asus> http://pastebin.com/MFGvwwxA
[05:11] <puff> I've downloaded lucid lynx, checked the md5sums, trying to burn a CD. I'm doing the burning on an intrepid 8.10 system, trying a varietry of burners (CD/DVD Creator, Brasero, GnomeBaker) and all are failing.
[05:11] <ech0Asus> bottom of there
[05:11] <gio> pepee same error more gksu
[05:11] <yipdw> hi all -- trying to install couchdb in Ubuntu Server 10.04 32-bit, running into an x11-common dependency cycle -> https://gist.github.com/4d9289cc97a935277640
[05:12] <yipdw> anyone know of any tips to resolve this?
[05:12] <crdlb> EdGred: python3.1 is in the repositories, but there's really not much you can do with it yet
[05:12] <puff> GnomeBaker got the furthest, burned for several minutes then said "failed" with no more info.  booted up the Cd and ran the media check, found one error.
[05:12] <puff> Burned again, failed again.
[05:12] <EdGred> i have used apt to get it as well as gotten the source from the python site, yet when i type python in the term, its still using the old version, however, i can type in python3 and then i get the new version
[05:12] <mikubuntu> help!!! i have been having so much problems with the nvidia drivers on my friends install of 10.04, seemingly from problems between nouveau and lcd monitor.  so i just brought her a HUGE crt, but i still can't get the driver to work properly, only giving me 800 x 600 resolution.
[05:12] <puff> Any suggestions?
[05:12] <pepee> gio, where are you from?
[05:12] <gio> does that matter
[05:12] <pepee> ech0Asus, sudo dpkg --configure -a , again
[05:13] <pepee> gio, maybe.
[05:13] <gio> india
[05:13] <pepee> gio, paste the error on pastebin
[05:13] <SlidingHorn> mikubuntu, have you checked this out (see below)
[05:13] <SlidingHorn> !res
[05:13] <scunizi> yipdw: perhaps installing "X" will help resolv this..
[05:13] <EdGred> crdlb: ive tried using the repo, but its no giving me v3 when i type python in a term, its still giving me v2
[05:13] <annodomini_> pepee: do you mean synaptic, or ubuntu software center, or apt-get, or aptitude?
[05:14] <hotfloppy> anyone know where can i download APTonCD ?
[05:14] <yipdw> scunizi: xorg-server?
[05:14] <gio> http://pastebin.org/355732 her it is
[05:14] <yipdw> or whichever the X server package is called
[05:14] <hotfloppy> their official website seems to contains nothing
[05:14] <puff> I'd hate to have to resort to using a windows machine to burn my ubuntu Cds.
[05:14] <s3a> in gnome when i click places => search for files (what is that called? - so that i can file a bug report)
[05:14] <annodomini_> There are several different package managers, so I'm not sure which one you mean. And once I'm in it, how do I find the package from the PPA? I've tried using apt-get, but I can't seem to find the PPA that way.
[05:15] <scunizi> yipdw: yes.. whatever the x server package is called.. not sure myself but xorg-server sounds right.. search aptitude/synaptic/apt-get for x references
[05:15] <ech0Asus> http://pastebin.com/pQGz9aLK new
[05:15] <gio> actually everything worked fine before that gksu.py thing
[05:15] <yipdw> scunizi: as far as I know, the xorg packages depend on x11-common
[05:15] <pepee> annodomini, whatever package manager you use. in synaptic you can check the package version, and if you use apt/aptitude you can do something like: aptitude install <package>=<version>
[05:15] <yipdw> scunizi: so installing that will run into the same problem
[05:15] <gio> i shouldnt have tried that
[05:15] <crdlb> EdGred: that's normal; they're incompatible
[05:15] <lewis1711> just trying to set up wireless. when I input iwconfig, I am told that wlan0 power is off. how do I, er, switch it on?:)
[05:15] <pepee> puff, install k3b
[05:15] <scunizi> yipdw: just a sec.. brb.. looking at apt-get
[05:15] <puff> lewis1711: ifconfig or ifup, or use gnome network-manager.
[05:15] <crdlb> EdGred: what do you want it for? python 2.x is still the primary series
[05:15] <gio> http://pastebin.org/355732 pepee
[05:16] <pepee> gio, yeah, I can see
[05:16] <yipdw> scunizi: thanks.  btw, here's the results of installing xserver-xorg-core: https://gist.github.com/4d9289cc97a935277640#file_xorg_install
[05:16] <scunizi> yipdw: x11-common is in the repos
[05:16] <gio> this is one busy channel
[05:16] <yipdw> scunizi: yeah -- installing x11-common directly hits that same problem
[05:16] <puff> lewis1711: but be aware, ifconfig and ifup use different lock files, so if you use both, you can get quite confused.
[05:16] <EdGred> crdlb: but should it update python to point to v3 instead of v2? and i need to compile something that uses python3
[05:17] <gio> if i would know python i could atleast have seen that script
[05:17] <ech0Asus> this is crazy i can't i believe i some how destroyed my whole package system tryin to reinstall pidgin..
[05:17] <yipdw> scunizi: i.e. https://gist.github.com/4d9289cc97a935277640#file_x11_common_install
[05:17] <lewis1711> puff: I see. am using xubuntu but that channel is dead. guess it's time for some heavy googling
[05:17] <puff> lewis1711: Er, not different lock files, but different files to store the current state. So if you turn wlan0 off with ifdown, then try to turn it on with ifconfig, it'll tell you it's already on.
[05:17] <crdlb> EdGred: no, that would break code that uses #!/usr/bin/python and expects python 2 (which is just about every python script on your system)
[05:17] <crdlb> EdGred: what is it that needs python 3?
[05:17] <puff> lewis1711: I'm more of a shell guy, but most people seem to use the gnome network manager appet.
[05:17] <scunizi> yipdw: perhaps do a full upgrade first with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:18] <annodomini_> pepee: I just get "E: Version '2.6.32-22.34~kamal~scien' for 'linux' was not found" when I try that
[05:18] <scunizi> yipdw: then sudo apt-get -f install
[05:18] <pepee> gio, you can't run gksu from root console...
[05:18] <puff> lewis1711: It should be up in your menu bar, usually near the right corner in vanilla ubuntu, and it looks like either a cell phone signal bars indicator (when connected) or like two overlapping PC icons.
[05:18] <ech0Asus> how do i clean apt-get up? it has this pidgin ppa and some key error everytime i try and install anything
[05:18] <s3a> in gnome when i click places => search for files (what is that called? - so that i can file a bug report)
[05:18] <wrapster> while building python2.6 the build seems to hang with this..http://pastie.org/1016836
[05:18] <wrapster> any ideas?
[05:18] <puff> lewis1711: "sudo ifconfig -a" should show you all of the current details.
[05:18] <mha> How does one make NetworkManager not autoconnecting to any location it finds? I.e. By default when adding a new WLAN it should have auto connect off.
[05:19] <mha> atm I am getting multihomed like crazy. I.e. ethernet + wlan.
[05:19] <gio> same from user console
[05:19] <SlidingHorn> ech0Asus, sudo apt-get -autoremove && apt-get clean
[05:19] <puff> lewis1711: With ifconfig, ti'd be "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" or "Sudo ifconfig eth1 down".
[05:19] <pepee> annodomini, are you sure that "linux" is the name of that package?
[05:19] <puff> lewis1711: or "sudo ifup eth1" and "sudo ifdown eth1"
[05:19] <lewis1711> puff: this is xubuntu, so I don't think I have it. will try and download the gnome thing
[05:19] <gio> pepee it doesnt matter
[05:19] <puff> lewis1711: Er, wlan0, that is... on mine, wifi is eth1.
[05:19] <rww> s3a: gnome-search-tool, part of gnome-utils package
[05:20] <crdlb> wrapster: why are you building python?
[05:20] <lewis1711> unknown interafce wlan0=wlan0 :/
[05:20] <puff> lewis1711: Which version?
[05:20] <s3a> rww, thanks
[05:20] <lewis1711> 10.04
[05:20] <ech0Asus> no good same error
[05:20] <annodomini_> pepee: It looks like it's the name of the package from the PPA linked to on the bug I was looking at: https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/linux-kamal-scien
[05:20] <wrapster> crdlb: i wanted to learn a few things regarding building of pkgs as im from solaris background.
[05:20] <pepee> gio, again, paste the output, but this time run it from normal console
[05:20] <puff> lewis1711: Some googlnig on: xubuntu  "network manager" turns up a number of hits that suggest xubuntu should have it.
[05:20] <LittleWolf> I'd like to ask for someone's kind assistant with what seems to be a Lucid freeze. I'd appreciate your time.
[05:20] <lewis1711> what's its bin name?
[05:21] <scunizi> yipdw: you tring that?
[05:21] <SlidingHorn> !ask
[05:21] <doyle> lewis1711: I was getting that the other day. Just repeat the command a few times. Bring up the interface, bring it down, try again.
[05:21] <annodomini_> Which I got from this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/578673
[05:21] <yipdw> scunizi: yeah
[05:21] <wrapster> crdlb: any ideas regarding the hang?
[05:21] <gio> http://pastebin.org/355737
[05:22] <pepee> annodomini, hmm strange... are you sure you configured the ppa correctly?
[05:22] <gio> said same error
[05:22] <yipdw> scunizi: sadly, same error -> https://gist.github.com/4d9289cc97a935277640#file_update_and_force_install
[05:22] <flammenwurfer> Is there some log that I can look at to see what is causing my boot hang?
[05:22] <gio> i have no idea how come it got screwed
[05:22] <crdlb> wrapster: nope, but you realize that ubuntu comes with python 2.6, right?
[05:22] <scunizi> yipdw: sorry I'm out of ideas.. if nobody here can help figure it out perhaps #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[05:22] <wrapster> correct..
[05:22] <yipdw> scunizi: np, thanks
[05:22] <Optimus55> hey i've installed lamp with apt-get install lamp-server^, . Anyone know how to enable url rewriting?? the tutorials i found online seem to apply to a different version of apache
[05:23] <yipdw> scunizi: I suspect x11-common for ubuntu server is just screwed
[05:23] <crdlb> wrapster: I'm sure you could skip the tests, but that would be a bad idea, since you've likely built a bad binary
[05:23] <pepee> flammenwurfer, #linux
[05:23] <pepee> gio, no idea, sorry
[05:23] <s3a> rww, actually i dont think that's what i meant, is that a new part of gnome because in debian it's only in sid (unstable)
[05:23] <gio> :(
[05:23] <scunizi> yipdw: you could always install the desktop on top of server then disable the giu startup to eliminate the overhead
[05:23] <tavis> anyone here using pam_mount with 10.04 for cifs?
[05:23] <LittleWolf> Oh, alright. Well, when I try to boot ubuntu, it says the following: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/loop0: clean, 161511/1073152 files, 806297/4286464 blocks
[05:23] <LittleWolf> So I checked on ubuntu's website and it had some advide about adding i915.modeset=1 to the grub bootloader, but it didn't resolve my issue.
[05:23] <gio> anyone else can help me regarding this?
[05:24] <Optimus55> anyone familiar with apache on ubuntu? i'm trying to load the url rewrite module and having problems
[05:24] <muskask8> Hello, I have a sound blaster ca0106 sound card, and when I first upgraded to ubuntu 10.04 there was sound, but now there is no sound. What do I do to fix this?
[05:24] <pepee> gio, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:24] <ddilinger> optimus: enable mod_rewrite in /etc/apache2/ and put your rules in .htaccess
[05:24] <puff> lewis1711: Usually it's in /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
[05:24] <yipdw> scunizi: I guess, but I was trying to avoid installing X stuff in the first place
[05:24] <wind> #ubuntu-cn
[05:24] <yipdw> scunizi: I'm not entirely sure why the couchdb package depends on xulrunner; it doesn't need it
[05:24] <SlidingHorn> Optimus55, This will work on apache2: http://corz.org/serv/tricks/htaccess2.php
[05:24] <ddilinger> optimus: apache has changed very very little, what you found is likely relevent
[05:25] <ech0Asus> guess i'll reinstall lucid yay
[05:25] <scunizi> yipdw: but couchdb needs it?  maybe there's a couchdb channel.. how do they run it in the cloud for ubuntu-one? AH that's another channel #ubuntu-one
[05:25] <lewis1711> oh I see puff. yeah that's up and running. i added a new wireless connection with it, but it's not connecting
[05:25] <ddilinger> has ubuntu become windows?  when does a reinstall change anything :P
[05:25] <gio> no help pepee
[05:25] <wrapster> crdlb: then i dont want to skip the tests. .however im not sure why it occured though
[05:25] <pepee> ech0Asus, that dpkg problem is very common.
[05:25] <h00k> ech0Asus: most likely, your problem can be resolved without reinstalling
[05:26] <ech0Asus> well i just installed and i dont want to bang my head against a wall over pidgin
[05:26] <pepee> ech0Asus, try removing those packages and then reinstalling
[05:26] <LittleWolf> Can anybody give me some advice about my problem?
[05:26] <ech0Asus> i can't remove anything
[05:26] <ech0Asus> i can't isntall anything
[05:26] <crdlb> wrapster: you could run sudo apt-get build-dep python2.6 and try again; I still don't see what you hope to accomplish though
[05:26] <ech0Asus> i get an error with any package manager
[05:26] <philsf> I have a directory with many versions of several packages, that I keep archived to avoid unnecessary downloads in several boxes. Anyone know how can I delete the older versions I have already downloaded, so I keep only the latest of each package?
[05:26] <pepee> ech0Asus, before reinstalling those packages, update your system
[05:26] <Optimus55> SlidingHorn, thanks a lot, taking a look now
[05:26] <pepee> ech0Asus, *** don't reinstall ubuntu
[05:26] <ech0Asus> can't update the system gives me the error
[05:27] <philsf> I can script some bash and some Perl, if someone kicks me in the right direction
[05:27] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: temporarily remove(make backups) the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[05:27] <sweetpi> LittleWolf: whats your problem?
[05:27] <andrei> join
[05:27] <pepee> ech0Asus, remove the package...
[05:27] <annodomini_> pepee: Here are the commands I ran (though this is a new execution of them; I don't still have the original run in my history): http://paste.ubuntu.com/454256/
[05:27] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: iirc anything involving ppk ends up in sources.list.d
[05:27] <h00k> philsf: you can get bash support in #bash if that help
[05:27] <h00k> s
[05:27] <tavis> anyone here using pam_mount with 10.04 for cifs?
[05:27] <gio> anyone else have problems with gksu
[05:27] <ddilinger> philsf: apt-get autoclean does that :P
[05:27] <LittleWolf> Hi sweetpi! Well, when I try to boot ubuntu, it says the following: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 /dev/loop0: clean, 161511/1073152 files, 806297/4286464 blocks
[05:27] <LittleWolf> So I checked on ubuntu's website and it had some advide about adding i915.modeset=1 to the grub bootloader, but it didn't resolve my issue.
[05:28] <pepee> ech0Asus, I remember now, that problems occur when there are some incompatibilities between packages
[05:28] <LittleWolf> It won't log or anything
[05:28] <mha> *sighs*
[05:28] <philsf> ddilinger, won't it delete everything?
[05:28] <LittleWolf> Just get stuck in that forever, I guess it's considered a freeze.
[05:28] <ech0Asus> i just tried to remove pidgin cause yahoo wouldn't work
[05:28] <LittleWolf> I just started using ubuntu today.
[05:28] <philsf> ddilinger, or all packages older than X days, ftm?
[05:28] <pepee> annodomini, sudo apt-get install linux="2.6.32-22.34~kamal~scien"
[05:28] <ech0Asus> now i can't do shit
[05:28] <h00k> !language | ech0Asus
[05:28] <ddilinger> philsf: autoclean?  no autoclean just removes versions that are older than available in sources.list
[05:29] <ddilinger> philsf: so if the package is still valid from ubuntu, it will stay in your local repo
[05:29] <sweetpi> LittleWolf: have you ever been able to boot into ubuntu?
[05:29] <annodomini_> pepee: Same error on that command.
[05:29] <gio> any channel ops?
[05:29] <annodomini_> pepee: Is there a way to check which packages a PPA provides?
[05:29] <h00k> gio: for which reason?
[05:29] <rww> s3a: umm? I'm actually using Debian squeeze right now, so it's definitely in there ;P
[05:29] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: i just dont understand how those are related, what does yahoo doesn't work mean?  your web browser is broken(firefox, chrome, konqueror, etc.) ?
[05:29] <gio> for gksu problem
[05:30] <pepee> annodomini, d/l and install that package manually
[05:30] <h00k> gio: ops aren't really for that.
[05:30] <LittleWolf> Yes! Not that long ago! I have been following guides I found in the ubuntu forums, I was trying to make my windows files accesible from ubuntu, but I guess I messed that up. >.<
[05:30] <mikubuntu> help!!! i have been having so much problems with the nvidia drivers on my friends install of 10.04, seemingly from problems between nouveau and lcd monitor.  so i just brought her a HUGE crt, but i still can't get the driver to work properly, only giving me 800 x 600 resolution.
[05:30] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: did you try backing up and cleaning out /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?  what is the exact output of 'apt-get update'  can you pastebin it?
[05:30] <philsf> ddilinger, brilliant, thanks!
[05:30] <pepee> gio, just use sudo...
[05:30] <red2kic> gio: You don't call the police to help you with your kitchen sink leaking. :o
[05:30] <ech0Asus> i installed pidgin.. pidgin crashed on yahoo log in.. i attempted to uninstall pidgin and then install from pidgin.im's ppa package thing.. now it's all blah
[05:31] <IdleOne> gio: you might find that the non-ops are more knowledgeable in most cases :)
[05:31] <h00k> gio: what are you trying to run with gksu?
[05:31] <annodomini_> Also, is there any good way of debugging the sleep issue I'm having? From googling, this kernel looks like the most promising, but most people on the bug don't seem to be having much luck with this kernel.
[05:31] <gio> update-manager
[05:31] <s3a> rww, im in lenny (http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnome-search-tool&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&sourceid=mozilla-search)
[05:31] <sweetpi> LittleWolf: not sure if its related(ive had this problem) but since you mention the i915 option, try video=vesa i915.modeset=0
[05:31] <h00k> gio: try gksudo update-manager
[05:31] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: `sudo dpkg --purge pidgin` to remove pidgin.  Did you remove the ppk info from your apt sources.list yet?
[05:31] <rww> s3a: note the part where I said "part of the gnome-utils package". And if you're using lenny, you should be asking for help in #debian, not here.
[05:32] <pepee> ech0Asus, again, remove that package, do sudo dpkg --configure -a, do sudo aptitude update
[05:32] <philsf> now, I'm having some trouble opening some applications. Ones I found out include acroread (from partner repo) and emacs32 (from main). They both return the following when run from the terminal: ** (emacs:19772): CRITICAL **: menu_proxy_module_load: assertion `dbusproxy != NULL' failed
[05:32] <ech0Asus> pepee what command do u suggest i do to remove the package
[05:32] <pepee> ech0Asus, what ddilinger says...
[05:32] <s3a> rww, the bug is universal
[05:32] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: did you use apt-add-repository to add the pidgin ppk, or how did you do that ?
[05:33] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: dpkg --purge pidgin
[05:33] <s3a> rww, so this?: http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=gnome-utils
[05:33] <ddilinger> with a sudo in front likely
[05:33] <s3a> rww, so reportbug gnome-utils ?
[05:33] <rww> s3a: ask in #debian
[05:34] <lewis1711> ok so if I do lshw and my wireless card is listed but there's no field specifying a driver, I need a driver? is that right/
[05:34] <annodomini_> pepee: Do you mean for me to download and install all 124 binary packages from that PPA manually using dpkg?
[05:34] <s3a> rww, but im filing it in debian and ubuntu and gnome (just because im on debian as we speak doens't mean i dont have ubuntu machines)
[05:34] <LittleWolf> I have a question about that too, it says to add "i915.modeset=1" after "quiet & splash", but my ubuntu won't run unless it is on "nomodeset". So I permanently modified the bootloader to have nomodeset as a default. Do I have to add video=vesa i915.modeset=0 after where it says "nomodeset", or do I have to overwrite it?
[05:35] <re182> Could anyone help me with installing ubuntu and windows xp on two separate HDDs?
[05:35] <pepee> annodomini, you wanna install the kernel? d/l the kernel package
[05:35] <Lalitha> Hi, How do i get the output of the soundcard to the input of audacity so that i can record it ?
[05:36] <abhi_nav> re182, two separate hdd? then there shouldnt be any prblem? what is it?
[05:36] <h00k> !dualboot | re182
[05:36] <sweetpi> LittleWolf: if i remember right i915 was ignoring nomodeset, however if your trying to debug boot issues you should get rid of quiet and splash and add nosplash
[05:36] <ech0Asus> yea i used apt-add
[05:36] <zus> whats the ubuntuone channel please (again?)
[05:36] <ech0Asus> i cleaned the sources.list dir
[05:36] <mikedraven27> who can send me a link to a tutorial for dhcp client config
[05:36] <ech0Asus> same issue still
[05:36] <LittleWolf> Should I change "nomodeset" for "nospalsh"?
[05:37] <rww> zus: #ubuntuone
[05:37] <sweetpi> LittleWolf: you can leave nomodeset in there
[05:37] <SlidingHorn> ech0Asus, wait...what do you mean you cleaned the sources.list dir?
[05:37] <zus> rww, thank you,..
[05:37] <ech0Asus> yea .d
[05:37] <ddilinger> annodomini: if you want to see what packages a PPA provides browse to the location in your browser and look for a file named  Packages.gz or Packages.bz2  in that will be a listing
[05:37] <pepee> annodomini, heh, you are trying to install a package that isn't in the repos...
[05:38] <SlidingHorn> ....wasn't a yes or no question.....  :-\
[05:38] <pepee> annodomini, all older versios are removed from repos
[05:38] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: hmm, can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update ?
[05:38] <re182> Well, the problem is I've read the dualboot help and i'm still stuck at grub
[05:38] <Roasted> is there an program to convert pictures from .JPG to .jpg? I know it sounds stupid but I need to mass upload a lot of pics and the program only sees lowercase jpg.
[05:38] <re182> I've got my ubuntu as my main HDD, and the windows installation on slave.
[05:38] <ddilinger> Roasted: there is no conversion, its just the filename
[05:38] <re182> Both boot up if they're the primary
[05:38] <Roasted> ddilinger, there has to be a converter, though..
[05:39] <re182> and the other isn't attached
[05:39] <subone> Which player can I use to view the current title number of a playing DVD?
[05:39] <re182> but together, they won't boot
[05:39] <ech0Asus> http://pastebin.com/RjTADfwa
[05:39] <re182> my bios tells me primary drive 1 (0?) isn't found.
[05:39] <red2kic> Roasted: The pictures don't need to be converted? The filenames only need to be renamed?
[05:39] <ddilinger> Roasted: if you want to change a dir from upper to lower case, something like:  for i in *.JPG;do mv $i $(echo $i|sed s/JPG/jpg/)
[05:39] <vikasap>  How do I execute a single command on multiple computers simultaneously ?
[05:39] <ddilinger> Roasted: if you want to change a dir from upper to lower case, something like:  for i in *.JPG;do mv $i $(echo $i|sed s/JPG/jpg/);done
[05:39] <crdlb> Roasted: rename .JPG .jpg *.jpg
[05:39] <lewis1711> If someone can help me figure out whether the driver is loaded for my wireless that'd be great. different guides say different things. thankyou
[05:39] <pepee> ech0Asus, read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186672
[05:39] <re182> my windows disc is the secondary drive, and the pin is set to slave...could that be a problem?
[05:40] <crdlb> Roasted: oops: rename .JPG .jpg *.JPG
[05:40] <LittleWolf> Thanks sweetpi! I'm gonna go try it!! :)
[05:40] <pepee> ech0Asus, you don't need to reinstall ubuntu, it is a VERY common problem
[05:40] <pepee> ech0Asus, it's called *broken dependencies*
[05:40] <sweetpi> LittleWolf: np
[05:40] <Cuervo> I have a asus 1005pr with a 1.66 ghz atom, single core, and ubuntu 10.04 is recognizing it as being dual core.
[05:40] <red2kic> crdlb: "rename .JPG .jpg *.JPG" --> syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "." ? :(
[05:41] <ddilinger> ech0Asus: not seeing any errors listed there, how about `sudo apt-get -f install` (should help resolve dependancies)
[05:41] <SlidingHorn> re182, here's a few links to get you pointed in the right direction: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1285897  http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20.html
[05:41] <rww> red2kic, crdlb: correct syntax: rename 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG
[05:41] <pepee> !dkpg
[05:41] <red2kic> rww: Cheers! \o/
[05:42] <crdlb> rww: oops, I have a different 'rename' here
[05:42] <re182> I understand I need to reinstall grub...but on the livecd ubuntu cannot see either drive.
[05:42] <ddilinger> better syntax: "for i in *.JPG;do echo $i $(echo $i | sed 's/JPG$/jpg/');done" slightly longer but reusable and the same on every shell :P
[05:42] <red2kic> rww: Why the $? (Curious)
[05:42] <re182> that is my problem, these instructions are useless unless ubuntu can see the two drives
[05:42] <ddilinger> bah do mv not do echo :)
[05:42] <rww> red2kic: matches the end of the file name
[05:42] <lewis1711> I have added the wireless connection info to the net work manner but now the "enable wireless" option is disabled why is this?
[05:43] <red2kic> rww: Ah. Something I would want to learn eventually. :P
[05:43] <SlidingHorn> lewis1711, what driver are you using?
[05:43] <ddilinger> red2kic: read regexp.info, has all the good parts :)
[05:43] <ddilinger> red2kic: err, http://regexp.info
[05:44] <red2kic> ddilinger: That website looks useful. Thank you.
[05:44] <lewis1711> SlidingHorn: I do not know. how do I find this information? iwconfig does not give a driver but the device is there
[05:44] <ik_> in Debian your hostname is hidded if someone nmap u in the same LAN, in ubuntu it doesnt, how can i hide that value? ($ hostname)
[05:45] <pepee> someone should add that howto to ubottu
[05:45] <pepee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186672
[05:45] <SlidingHorn> lewis1711, post the output of the following command to http://paste.ubuntu.com  --  lshw -C Network    (don't direct it @ me, as I'm probably going to bed soon)
[05:45] <sweetpi> lewis1711: lsmod | grep mac80211 will show the driver
[05:46] <ennui> has anyone found a good ebook/pdf library app. like calibre but maybe a bit less clunky? :/
[05:46] <lewis1711> sweetpi: ah, it seems ath5k is up
[05:46] <lewis1711> or at least it's mentioned several times
[05:46] <crdlb> rww: the one I was going for is apparently called rename.ul on debian and derivatives
[05:46] <re182> Is setting the secondary drive pin (the windows one) to slave problematic?
[05:46] <re182> should i have no pin inserted and make the drive think it is also primary?
[05:47] <rww> crdlb: ah, okay. yeah, we have the perl one instead
[05:47] <ddilinger> secondary drive pin, wow classic hardware :)
[05:47] <sweetpi> lewis1711: if i remember right.. if you bring the interface up manually networkmanager disables wifi management
[05:47] <lewis1711> ok, so my driver, ath5k is loaded (as evident in lsmod.) In the graphical network manager, I have added my key, my ESSID, and my encryption type (WPA). What is the next step?
[05:47] <re182> sorry, i'm a bit of a noob when it comes to dual booting seperate hard drives and I cannot seem to find anything about pin positions in the ubuntu guides
[05:47] <lewis1711> re182: for master and slave HD's? it's not OS specific
[05:47] <philsf> I'm having some trouble opening some applications. Ones I found out include acroread (from partner repo) and emacs32 (from main). They both return the following when run from the terminal: ** (emacs:19772): CRITICAL **: menu_proxy_module_load: assertion `dbusproxy != NULL' failed. The app window simply does not open. In the case of acroread, the app exits and returns to the shell, emacs remains open, but does not open the window. Later, if I try to shutdown
[05:47] <philsf> or reboot, I get a warning that emacs is not responding, and am asked to kill it
[05:48] <lewis1711> enable networks is greyed out in the little icon thing
[05:48] <lewis1711> *enable wireless networks
[05:48] <LittleWolf> I'm back sweetpi; unfortunately it did not work. D=
[05:48] <ddilinger> philsf: do you use emacs?  could probably remove it
[05:48] <sweetpi> lewis1711: try taking down the interface and restarting network-manager
[05:48] <re182> lewis1711: so what does that mean? it doesn't matter that the ubuntu drive is set to primary and has no pin, and the windows drive is set to secondary and has the slave pin?
[05:49] <win_2_linux> brb
[05:49] <lewis1711> re182: no it means you shouldn't search ubuntu for stuff about hardware pins:)
[05:49] <lewis1711> sweetpi ok
[05:49] <sweetpi> LittleWolf: did you get any more info by removing the quiet option?
[05:49] <philsf> ddilinger, I do
[05:49] <ddilinger> re182: shouldn't make a difference.  I think windows has to be the master HD to boot, although thats from my time in winxp no clue about modern ones
[05:49] <re182> lewis1711: just asking for help, no need to be a douche
[05:50] <re182> ddilinger: thank you, i appreciate that.
[05:50] <philsf> ddilinger, anyway, I use acroread to open PDFs inside firefox, and it gives an error everytime I try to open one
[05:50] <lewis1711> re182: I am not being a douche. I am telling you where to find information
[05:50] <ddilinger> philsf: thats annoying.  Could try using okular to read pdfs(doesn't fix the problem, but its a possiblity)
[05:50] <ddilinger> philsf: okular is like, kde's pdf reader i think
[05:51] <SlidingHorn> ok...going to bed
[05:51] <philsf> ddilinger, i only use acroread from firefox. otherwise I use evince
[05:51] <vikasap>  How do I execute a single command on multiple computers simultaneously ?
[05:51] <LittleWolf> When I installed Ubuntu the first time, before I could even install it, it would just make my monitor sleep and I couldn't do anything except a forced reboot. So someone on the ubuntu forums adviced me to delete quiet splash, and replace them with nomodeset, and ever since it has worked. So on another advice, I modified my grub to include nomodeset as default so I wouldn't have to type it everytime.
[05:51] <SlidingHorn> good night & good luck to all you poor souls trying to help  ;-)
[05:52] <ddilinger> philsf: convince firefox to use evince? :P  i cant even think of why acroread would be touching emacs
[05:52] <philsf> ddilinger, I'm not assuming they
[05:52] <philsf> ddilinger, I'm not assuming they're related :)
[05:52] <philsf> other than sharing a similar symptom
[05:53] <compuman> does anyone here know of a way to encrypt an entire harddrive from ubuntu 10.04?
[05:53] <ddilinger> philsf: oh? i thought you said they both output the same error code which had the emacs .c file listed :P
[05:53] <philsf> ddilinger, they do, apart from the process name :)
[05:54] <ddilinger> philsf: silly question, but dbus is running?
[05:54] <ddilinger> dbus-daemon that is
[05:55] <LittleWolf> The freeze message I get is still the same as before.
[05:56] <lewis1711> thanks for your help sweetpi, that did the trick. now if only I could get it working on arch:/
[05:56] <lewis1711> laters
[05:56] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: unfortunatly that freeze message isn't an error code, makes it hard to debug :(
[05:56] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: do you by chance have a giant HD attached?  my systems looks like its frozen on boot when its fsck's the 3G raid array
[05:57] <philsf> ddilinger, pgrep returns 3 PIDs
[05:57] <LittleWolf> I was afraid so. I saw a post about something similar, it said it was a rather unique basis depending on the machine, etc. But I don't know anything about linux at all. I just learned today what the hell a terminal was. o_o
[05:57] <ddilinger> philsf: hmm, that should be right ... dunno
[05:57] <LittleWolf> No, I don't ddilinger. Unless 250 GB memory and 900mb RAM is considered massive.
[05:58] <ddilinger> littlewolf: not really, a 250G drive should fsck fairly fast.  How long have you let it sit in the 'stuck' phase ?
[05:58] <daniel> hola
[05:59] <pepee> !es | dan
[05:59] <pepee> !es | daniel
[05:59] <pepee> sorry...
[05:59] <LittleWolf> About 20 minutes or so.
[05:59] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: if it is a fsck problem there is a simple way to hack arround it: sudo mv /sbin/fsck /sbin/fsck.orig;echo "#!/bin/sh" > /sbin/fsck;echo "true" >>/sbin/fsck;chmod +x /sbin/fsck
[05:59] <LittleWolf> Aren't you suppoused to type sudo things on a terminal?
[06:00] <ddilinger> well, yea all those cmds were supposed to be sudo, got lazy typing :P
[06:00] <LittleWolf> Oh, wait. That Grub thing did offer an option to open a terminal, right?
[06:00] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: You will want to boot into "single-user mode" to disable fsck as i had mentioned,  put the number 1 at the end of your kernel options
[06:01] <red2kic> What is the best way to preserve my settings? (Ie, I want to test KDE, XFCE, Lubuntu --etc) -- Then when I'm done with it, I rollback to the previous setting?
[06:01] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: kernel options from grub, same part that says nomodeset
[06:01] <ddilinger> red2kic: hmm, easiest way?  add some users to your system
[06:01] <LittleWolf> Do you mean "i915.modeset=1" ??
[06:02] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: the 1 goes on its own though, as a seperate option
[06:02] <Lalitha> Hi, How do i get the output of the soundcard to the input of audacity so that i can record it ?
[06:02] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: that tells the kerenl to go to runlevel 1 instead of 5 when it boots. runlevel 1 is maintinance mode and does very little before droping you to a shell
[06:02] <LittleWolf> So, i915.modeset= 1 ?
[06:02] <red2kic> ddilinger: The packages would be installed for all users. That work? One user get KDE, the other user get XFCE? It's not the approach I'm looking for. I wanted a virtual -- but a native virtual -- Without having to install it on the HDD? Meh.
[06:03] <ddilinger> LittleWolf: i dunno about your i915 command, but the same long line in grub that has the kernel options you just need to append the number 1
[06:03] <blondinka> народ помогите планшет wacom подвисает при нажатие пера
[06:03] <annodomini_> pepee: Thanks for the help. Installing the linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic_2.6.32-22.34~kamal~scien_i386.deb package manually using dpkg worked for me, and thankfully, that kernel does work to fix the resume problem!
[06:03] <ddilinger> red2kic: well, if your just 'trying it out' for an hour or two adding a user, then deleting the user when done is the cleanest way without leaving a bunch of random files in your home dir
[06:03] <nUboon2Age> blondinka: !russian
[06:03] <annodomini_> I think the reason nothing else was working is that that package is considered an older version than the released 2.6.32-22
[06:03] <blondinka> да
[06:04] <nUboon2Age> blondinka: !rs
[06:04] <LittleWolf> At the very last just add the number 1?
[06:04] <red2kic> ddilinger: I understand. What about packages? ;)
[06:04] <ddilinger> red2kic: the packages should be fine to all be installed in your system
[06:04] <nUboon2Age> blondinka: ! russian
[06:05] <abhi_nav> !ru
[06:05] <abhi_nav> :P
[06:05] <blondinka> спасибо
[06:05] <nUboon2Age> abhi_nav:  thanks.
[06:06] <abhi_nav> nUboon2Age, :)
[06:06] <ddilinger> red2kic: the packages (if installed through apt-get or aptitude or similar) will be available for all users.  Not quite sure what a native virtual means
[06:06] <red2kic> ddilinger: Snapshots.
[06:06] <red2kic> ddilinger: That's what I'm thinking. I'm reading stuffs at the moment. No sweat. :2
[06:07] <ddilinger> red2kic: well, you can have gnome and kde installed, log out of kde and then log into gnome, although you cant have the gnome desktop and the kde desktop running for the same user in the same X display at once
[06:08] <ddilinger> that can all be done on a single user, they store their configs in seperate directorys.  The graphical login manager should have a dropdown to select gnome/kde/etc if they are installed
[06:08] <red2kic> ddilinger: If you have another X display, you can have it running KDE. Not the approach I'm looking for. What I want to do is snapshots. Basically, I like it, I saved it. Then I start messing around with it. No sweat. I go back to my pristine condition.
[06:08] <verve> hi
[06:08] <ddilinger> ahh, well for the most part that can be acomplished by duplicating the configuration directories
[06:09] <ddilinger> red2kic: with a couple exceptions kde stores all its info in ~/.kde/
[06:09] <ddilinger> red2kic: so if you make a tarball out of that directory you can call that a snapshot
[06:09] <ruyi> hello
[06:09] <ddilinger> red2kic: not as familiar with gnome but its likely similar
[06:11] <ddilinger> i think gnome uses ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gnome2_private
[06:11] <ennui> My machine has an OSX filesystem partition in addition to Ubuntu, Is there some way I can write to it? I don't have right permission and is it not possible to chown with the format of osx's filesystem?
[06:11] <re182> Okay...so i've sucessfully installed windows and ubuntu 10.04. Windows is the primary drive, ubuntu is the secondary drive.
[06:11] <ddilinger> ennui: have you managed to mount the HFS drive?
[06:11] <re182> I followed the instructions here :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD and when i reboot i get a "windows did not restart properly...blah blah safe mode etc"
[06:12] <re182> i do not get a grub menu.
[06:12] <red2kic> ddilinger: It does. I'm just not looking to install any metapackages. I want to experience a standalone kde minimal + xfce minimal. Not to mention I heard good things about LXDE (maybe for my netbook).
[06:12] <re182> suggestions?
[06:12] <ennui> ddilinger it is mounted. I can read from it but not write
[06:12] <ddilinger> ennui: even with root?
[06:12] <hdevalence> Hi, I'm having a problem where the server GLX version is only 1.2 but I need >= 1.3. How do I fix this?
[06:12] <doyle> ddilinger: would you suggest he use chown on it?
[06:12] <ddilinger> doyle: chown? no
[06:12] <ennui> though I'm not exactly sure what the chmod command should look like
[06:12] <ddilinger> a chown across the drive would likely fubar macos
[06:13] <doyle> gotcha
[06:13] <jim> re182, one possibility is grub was installed in a place that the machine boot doesn't cover at the moment
[06:13] <re182> how can i determine where it was installed?
[06:13] <jim> how did you install it?
[06:14] <jim> or how did it get installed? also which version of grub is it?
[06:14] <ennui> ddilinger: if I run gksudo nautilus the file browser still can't write do the external
[06:14] <ddilinger> ennui: hmm, what does the 'mount' command say about your drive?
[06:14] <ddilinger> ennui: between the ()
[06:15] <ddilinger> re182: sounds like grub didn't install onto the windows drive
[06:15] <re182> it was supposed to be on the windows drive?
[06:15] <LLLLL> A friend sent me a file of Linux Nero, how do I install it?
[06:15] <ddilinger> yea, grub has to go on the main boot drive i think
[06:15] <re182> in those instructions it says to mount the ubuntu drive, not the windows one.
[06:16] <jim> where do you want it installed?
[06:16] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "libgdata-google1.2-1  --  Client library for accessing Google POA through SOAP interface. This package is a client library to access Google services through a SOAP interface." What does 'POA' stand for?
[06:16] <abhi_nav> LLLLL, is it a source or .deb?
[06:16] <re182> I want grub2 on the windows one i guess, because it's the main HDD and the one that has the MBR
[06:16] <LLLLL> h/o
[06:16] <jim> ok
[06:16] <Big_D_271> anyone having trouble downloading from Ubuntu?
[06:16] <re182> Big_D_271: I was earlier today, but not in the past few hours.
[06:16] <abhi_nav> ??
[06:17] <abhi_nav> what is h/o?
[06:17] <Big_D_271> re182 thanks... i'm thinking it might be on my end!
[06:17] <Aidar-Nagato> have anybody still got problem with ati drivers? even after clear install i can't install fglrx
[06:17] <re182> abhi_nav: it means hold on ;)
[06:17] <ddilinger> LLLLL: what kind of file is it?
[06:17] <jim> half order?
[06:17] <abhi_nav> re182, ok
[06:17] <LLLLL> hold on
[06:17] <abhi_nav> hmm
[06:18] <re182> so....i should use those instructions again, but this time install grub to the windows drive?
[06:18] <jim> I'm not so sure...
[06:19] <razz1> i am unable to connect my wireless printer brother hl2170w to set it up, it is available in the network section but keeps dropping when i try to connect
[06:19] <jim> I'm definitely a fan of booting all osses starting with the same drive
[06:19] <razz1> what does a monitor like symbol beside a wireless network mean?
[06:20] <jim> but, maybe your bois can boot the other drive
[06:20] <re182> V_V oh, internet.
[06:20] <re182> thanks jim, I'll try to install grub on the windows drive :)
[06:20] <ddilinger> hmm, i hadn't thought of that but yea, you could swap the boot order in your bios, boot the linux hd, adjust grub to install to the windows disk, then flip the bios back
[06:21] <LLLLL> ddilinger, abhi_nav ...its zip
[06:21] <jim> can you fit an additional primary partition of say 25-50mb onto the drive?
[06:21] <R3cur51v3> I want to install Windows dual-boot; I have already installed Ubuntu. I'll need to resize my /home partition to do so, but it's an XFS filesystem.  I bailed on it for that reason
[06:22] <LLLLL> is all Linux x86?
[06:22] <ddilinger> DaZ: lemme just grab those DAT tapes and starting backing up a TB home dir :P
[06:22] <abhi_nav> LLLLL, no not all
[06:23] <jim> lllll no but some is
[06:23] <ddilinger> LLLLL: not all Linux, but linux runs x86.  Chances are you are on x86 right now (although not guaranteed)
[06:23] <DaZ> :3
[06:23] <R3cur51v3> and I know about dpkg --get-selections
[06:23] <doyle> LLLLL: well, theres the first 85 to consider
[06:23] <jim> well it's really up to you
[06:23] <re182> so jim, are you saying i should partition some space on the windows drive and install grub to that?
[06:23] <razz1> anyone know how to connect a wireless printer in ubuntu, it keeps disconnecting on mine
[06:23] <LLLLL> I have Ubuntu 10.04 .
[06:23] <ddilinger> re182: you shouldn't need to, grub fits in the MBR
[06:23] <R3cur51v3> But I'll also have to reinstall VMWare and some other stuff, plus I'll have to transfer and retransfer the 60 GB worth of stuff in /home, plus just installing Ubuntu takes time
[06:24] <jim> if you have that 1 tb drive, I'd be looking pretty squarely at lvm
[06:24] <abhi_nav> LLLLL, can you unzip that file?
[06:24] <re182> ddilinger: so there should be no problem mounting that one using the livecd instead, and installing grub to it?
[06:24] <jim> well any of these solutions is going to take time
[06:24] <ddilinger> re182: wont be the same, i dont think
[06:24] <masjoko> hii all
[06:25] <re182> gah. then how am i to install grub?
[06:25] <masjoko> any one can help me??
[06:25] <ddilinger> re182: i'm not 100%, but i think you need to boot your linux partition(can you adjust bios to boot second drive?) and run grub from inside it
[06:25] <re182> I can't adjust my bios to boot it, i just checked :|
[06:25] <masjoko> how to install graphic card aspireoNE ao532???
[06:25] <masjoko> how to install graphic card aspireoNE ao532???
[06:26] <masjoko> can help me?? please
[06:26] <ennui> ddilinger: mount -> /dev/sdc5 on /media/Backup type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[06:26] <ddilinger> ennui: hmm, so that is proper as well,  hfsplus and rw . . . you should be good to write files as root, not sure whats going on there
[06:27] <ddilinger> re182: ok, so then you can boot your liveCD, mount the drive and chroot into it
[06:27]  * R3cur51v3 sighs, time to reinstall Ubuntu yet again...
[06:28] <re182> but then how am i to install grub to the windows partition?
[06:28] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "libgdata-google1.2-1  --  Client library for accessing Google POA through SOAP interface. This package is a client library to access Google services through a SOAP interface." What does 'POA' stand for?
[06:28] <re182> I mean, if the computer turns on and XP is the primary drive, it will boot up windows
[06:29] <ddilinger> re182: well, actually windows installed a small boot loader in the MBR that forwards it to a boot record for the partition
[06:29] <ddilinger> re182: grub will replace the MBR, but still be able to forward to the XP partition to boot normally
[06:29] <re182> ahh, okay
[06:31] <abhi_nav> how to remove this error which I got while checking for updates: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454276/
[06:31] <cyphase> is there a clean way to close an ssh connection to your machine? as opposed to killing the connection process
[06:32] <ddilinger> cyphase: kill is clean
[06:32] <ddilinger> cyphase: kill -9 is the unclean way
[06:32] <cyphase> ah, okay
[06:32] <cyphase> thanks
[06:33] <randerz> what does clean v unclean mean?
[06:33] <ddilinger> doing a normal kill doesn't do anything crazy, it just sends a signal to the process
[06:33] <ddilinger> the process can ignore it if it wants, or shut down.
[06:33] <ddilinger> kill -9 tells linux to shut it down, doesn't care what the process thinks
[06:34] <abhi_nav> please help updation error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454276/
[06:34] <kermit> firefox is slow, what else should i use?
[06:34] <ddilinger> chrome
[06:34] <abhi_nav> kermit, softfox
[06:34] <kermit> ddilinger: chrome or chromium?
[06:35] <abhi_nav> chrome
[06:35] <randerz> so usually a process will have a function for handling the shutdown signal
[06:35] <kermit> i like to support FOSS though, isnt chromium almost as good as chrome?
[06:35] <randerz> and can close "cleanly" - not leave any open file descriptors, etc.
[06:35] <randerz> right?
[06:35] <ddilinger> i use google-chrome-unstable from the ppa
[06:36] <abhinesh> hi
[06:36] <ddilinger> randerz: well, linux wont let it have hanging file descriptors when its closed. linux will clean that.  By cleanly it means that the process shuts itself down, as oposed to the operating system shutting it down
[06:36] <abhi_nav> rww can you please help sove this issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/454276/
[06:36] <cyphase> randerz, i cant remember the exact circumstances, but i remember once i killed an ssh connection and the computer thought it was still logged on
[06:36] <abhinesh> abhi_nav: what issuse
[06:36] <abhi_nav> how to remove this error which I got while checking for updates: http://paste.ubuntu.com/454276/
[06:36] <bh3w> hey hey
[06:37] <abhi_nav> abhinesh, ^^
[06:37] <bh3w> just finished with my ubuntu install
[06:37] <abhi_nav> bh3w,  :)
[06:37] <ddilinger> abhi_nav: you would do better posting one liners like that in the chat :P
[06:37] <ddilinger> abhi_nav: you need to do something with the apt-key command, but i dont know what
[06:37] <abhi_nav> ddilinger, hmmm. i was not sure how much lines it will occupy
[06:37] <abhi_nav> ddilinger, hmm
[06:38] <abhinesh> #drupal
[06:38] <Guest15891> might be swtiching to vista from ubuntu
[06:38] <randerz> thanks ddilinger and cyphase
[06:38] <Lalitha> abhi_nav, Hi, can you help me please ?
[06:38] <Guest15891> cant find good software for it
[06:38] <abhi_nav> Lalitha, about what? dont pm. ask here
[06:39] <Lalitha> abhi_nav, I want to redirect the output of speakers to the audacity so that it can record it .
[06:39] <abhi_nav> Lalitha, dont know. i dont have audocity
[06:40] <Lalitha> Does anyone know how to redirect the output of soundcard to audacity so that it can record ?
[06:40] <Lalitha> abhi_nav, thakns for replying
[06:40] <ddilinger> Lalitha: look into pulseaudio
[06:40] <bh3w> quick question
[06:40] <bh3w> well two
[06:40] <Guest15891> bh3w, go
[06:40] <abhi_nav> Lalitha, ok
[06:40] <ddilinger> Lalitha: with pulseaudio you can change the 'sink' at the flick of a button, the sink being where the audio goes
[06:40] <ddilinger> Lalitha: if you want to record rather than play, you can make the sink be a .wav file
[06:40] <bh3w> one, how do i show what version i am running? and if i'm running with ubuntu, but want the KDE environment, what do?
[06:40] <rod1> hello! Does anyone know how to fix blue/purple tint when playing videos? (all video players do this to me)
[06:41] <abhi_nav> bh3w, paste uname -a output here
[06:41] <Guest15891> bh3w, install kubuntu
[06:41] <Lalitha> bh3w, synaptic > kubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <Guest15891> next!
[06:41] <abhi_nav> bh3w, you can install kde from ubuntu software cneter name is kubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <trask_> I'm having troubles deleting some files that got interrupted during a transfer to my external HDD. Getting "Cannot remove <file> Input/output error"
[06:41] <bh3w> Linux woody-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:41] <ddilinger> trask_: likely a fsck is necessary
[06:42] <doyle> How many jobs can make process without suffering too much? make -j50 too much?
[06:42] <Lalitha> ddilinger, I am going to try it now.
[06:42] <ddilinger> lalitha: i think pulseaudio is installed by default on ubuntu, you just need to start the 'padevchooser' applet to let you easily switch sinks, and install the wav file sink
[06:42] <trask_> ddilinger: umount first then run? It won't delete anything will it?
[06:42] <Guest15891> guys what does wubi do
[06:42] <ddilinger> trask_: fsck wont delete anything, although you may end up with files in lost+found and no names
[06:43] <ddilinger> trask_: but the files in lost+found were already screwed before fsck ran, fsck just puts them there because it doesn't know where they go
[06:43] <Guest15891> guys what does wubi do
[06:43] <Lalitha> ddilinger, installed padevchooser
[06:43] <bh3w> ok
[06:43] <ddilinger> never heard of wubi
[06:44] <bh3w> i'm in synaptic
[06:44] <bh3w> but the only thing for KDE is not the environment
[06:44] <xray_tsk> skubi wubi du
[06:44] <Guest15891> xray_tsk, what?
[06:44] <Pavel_10> I've downloaded Wicd, but it didn't auto-remove knetworkkanager.  Both are currently running.  How can I safely remove knetwork manager?
[06:44] <Lalitha> Guest15891, wubi installs ubuntu as a windows application and uses windows' bootloader. and it can later be uninstaled from control panel > add/remove prog
[06:44] <abhi_nav> ddilinger, solved. i do sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys followed by error hed number. and it is done!!!
[06:44] <xray_tsk> just kidding
[06:45] <ddilinger> abhi_nav: beautiful :)
[06:45] <dmg> hi, is it better to install cron or anacron on Ubuntu Server 10.4 ?
[06:45] <rod1> anyone know how to fix blue tint in video playing ?
[06:45] <abhi_nav> ddilinger, :)
[06:45] <ddilinger> dmg: is your system on 24hrs a day?
[06:45] <rod1> recently appeared
[06:45] <Guest15891> thaaanks
[06:45] <dmg> on my netbook I have both, but on the server I want to choose one
[06:45] <dmg> yes
[06:46] <ddilinger> dmg: anacron is for systems that go up and down, cron is for servers
[06:46] <ddilinger> well, generally anyways
[06:46] <dmg> ddilinger, does the use the same config files?
[06:46] <ddilinger> not entirely sure
[06:46] <trask_> ddilinger: how do I see what /dev is my external? It's currently still mounted.
[06:46] <dmg> because I don't now if is it ok if I have both installed on my netbook
[06:46] <ddilinger> trask_: type 'mount'
[06:47] <ddilinger> trask_: should be listed
[06:47] <trask_> Simple. Thank you.
[06:47] <ddilinger> dmg: well, they arn't marked as conflicting packages so i guess its not the end of the world.  prob wouldn't hurt to remove cron though
[06:48] <Guest15891> do u recommend using windows and ubuntu
[06:48] <ddilinger> i recommend using what works for u
[06:48] <ddilinger> if it aint broke, dont fix it :)
[06:48] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "libgdata-google1.2-1  --  Client library for accessing Google POA through SOAP interface. This package is a client library to access Google services through a SOAP interface." What does 'POA' stand for?
[06:48] <trask_> ddilinger: "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found. fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdb1"
[06:48] <Guest15891> not enough good software for ubuntu
[06:49] <jayne> What's a good socks5 proxy (server) with authentication?
[06:49] <ddilinger> trask_: its an ntfs drive?  you will prob have to to a check from windows then,  not usre what the command is called
[06:49] <red2kic> ddilinger: Okay. Do you happen to know if I were to install KDE on a new user, would GNOME apps and KDE apps overlays each others on new user? What about XFCE? I don't want to resort to figuring out which icon/package/settings belongs to.
[06:50] <dmg> ddilinger, that's weird, in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto i read that anacron itself is invoked from the /etc/crontab file, but when I run "aptitude show anacron" in dependencies I see "libc6 (>= 2.7), debianutils (>= 1.7), lsb-base (>= 3.0-10)" and not cron...
[06:51] <abhi_nav> red2kic, they will now overwritge each other. but you wll have all aps for gnome and kde desktop. i.e. no of aps will increase
[06:51] <ddilinger> red2kic: well, i'm actually using a very simple fluxbox install, no kde/gnome, but iirc they play pretty well together
[06:51] <raj> guys is there anyway to get 150 MBPS bitrate on an N adapter. im only getting 54 MBS? i have a TEW 644UB
[06:51] <red2kic> abhi_nav: Meaning if a user bob installed opera browser, it'll show up in user dave?
[06:52] <ddilinger> dmg: interesting, yea i just peeked at the anacron package it does suggest having cron installed, but doesn't require it
[06:52] <ddilinger> red2kic: no, you would have to install opera as root
[06:52] <ddilinger> red2kic: should be a .deb package you can just 'sudo dpkg -i opera.deb' on
[06:52] <abhi_nav> red2kic, what we installed from admin account wll show up in every normal account in both kde and gnome
[06:53] <Lalitha> ddilinger, what do i enter as sink ?
[06:53] <abhi_nav> what is the name of that text irc? irrc? iiirc? or iirc? which one?
[06:53] <dmg> oh, maybe it's an old article and in the meanwhile anacron was rewritten not to use the cron deamon
[06:53] <jayne> irssi?
[06:53] <abhi_nav> jayne, ok
[06:54] <Zwei> Hi, I'm using gnome photo printer, is there anyway to re-arrange how the pictures are laid out? I have about 30 photos but the application seems to order them by filename.
[06:54] <ddilinger> Lalitha: actualy, with pulseaudio try this: http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2009/04/19/recording-from-pulseaudio/
[06:54] <ammar> hi
[06:54] <ddilinger> abhi_nav: text irc, i use irssi
[06:54] <trask_> ddilinger: it's a 1TB external HDD, is there a way I can format it to something else?
[06:54] <abhi_nav> ddilinger, hmm
[06:54] <red2kic> abhi_nav: I understand. I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to have all DE system for experiments without having them tied up together? I want the experiences of native KDE, native XFCE, native GNOME, etc...? Physical hard drives to swap around is one alternative. I don't want any virtuals.
[06:54] <ddilinger> trask_: well certainly can reformat to ext3 or something, but you will lose the contents
[06:55] <ammar> Anybody knows how to do a VPN in Ubuntu??
[06:55] <abhi_nav> red2kic, what is de?
[06:55] <trask_> ddilinger: Fat32 wouldn't work since it's 1TB, right?
[06:55] <red2kic> !de | adamx
[06:55] <ddilinger> trask_: note that if you make it ext3 you cant read it from windows
[06:55] <ddilinger> trask_: well, actualy there was a driver to load ext2 on windows maybee you can, but its not default installed
[06:55] <red2kic> adamx: Sorry.
[06:55] <ddilinger> trask_: thats my understanding, yea
[06:55] <red2kic> !desktops | abhi_nav
[06:55] <trask_> Lames..
[06:56] <Guest15891> trask_, free software/
[06:56] <ddilinger> 20 years in almost and linux still doesn't play that well with windows filesystems :P
[06:56] <trask_> Guest15891: ?
[06:56] <abhi_nav> red2kic, so you want to install gnome,kde, xfce but you dont want their aps to be grouped toghet? thats not possible.
[06:56] <Guest15891> trask_, what is lames
[06:56] <trask_> ddilinger: ext2/3 are easy enough to read (and write?) on Windows, but still..
[06:57] <red2kic> abhi_nav: Meh. So every users will have to see any new packages that are installed from other users.
[06:57] <abhi_nav> red2kic, not by other standarad users. but by other admin users
[06:57] <Lalitha> ddilinger, I do not understand how to use that page.
[06:57] <Lalitha> ddilinger, i must enter the commands one by one ?
[06:57] <abhi_nav> red2kic, e.g. if bob install some software and bob is NOT admin then nobody else can see that software.
[06:57] <Lalitha> ddilinger, but it does not have a place to enter the webapge link ?
[06:57] <Matrice64> hi everyone, has anyone been sucessful at getting itunes to work?
[06:57] <abhi_nav> red2kic, but if bot IS admin and he install any software then all wll see that software
[06:58] <ddilinger> Lalitha: copy the script(the numbered lines in the middle) into a file.  chmod +x the file, the run it with the command line option being the name of your output wav file
[06:59] <Guest15891> Matrice64, why do you want itunes
[06:59] <red2kic> abhi_nav: Alright, I guess I'll opt for virtuals (for now). Maybe bunch of hard drives.
[06:59] <ddilinger> they dont make a linux itunes do they?  doesn't seem like apple's style
[06:59] <abhi_nav> red2kic, hmm
[06:59] <Matrice64> Guest15891:  I have an ipad and I want to be able to access it when I'm on ubuntu
[07:00] <ddilinger> Matrice64: depending how beefy your computer is you can load virtualbox and run winxp in seamless mode, run itunes that way
[07:00] <ddilinger> Matrice64: be sure to use real virtualbox, not virtualbox-ose because the ose version doesn't do usb port forward
[07:00] <Matrice64> ddilinger: I was hoping to avoid doing that :-\
[07:01] <ddilinger> Matrice64: complain to apple :P
[07:01] <Matrice64> hahaha
[07:01] <abhi_nav> red2kic, best way to learn such things is not theory but is practical. do it yourself try with gnome and kde. try to remove software of gnome you dont want in kde etc. Alwasy experimetn and learn. thats the more knowledgeable
[07:01] <Matrice64> right
[07:01] <ddilinger> i'm sure they will make a linux client :P
[07:01] <hdevalence> hey, looks like I'll have to upgrade my X server to the unstable version from the xorg-edgers ppa to get my graphics to work; is there any other info about this process?
[07:01] <jim> hi, with grub2 how would I boot a live cd and install it again
[07:01] <red2kic> abhi_nav: Yes. I want to avoid metapackages, is all. :)
[07:01] <Matrice64> sure would be great if they did
[07:01] <jim> also, say I want to install it to a different place
[07:01] <abhi_nav> red2kic, hmm
[07:01] <Guest15891> Matrice64, do you have windows
[07:01] <Matrice64> well.. rather change the dependency on using itunes altogether to manage it
[07:02] <red2kic> abhi_nav: But if I have to remember what packages I installed after I purged users.   That wsa by far the best way not these silly itunes and zune apps that abstract it all away
[07:03] <Matrice64> Guest15891: yes, I dual boot , its just an inconvience to have to reboot just to do that expecially if I have alot going on
[07:03] <ddilinger> virtualbox :)
[07:03] <trask_> How do you give names to external HDDs and USBs?
[07:03] <ddilinger> you can do winXp with a 256M VM
[07:04] <Matrice64> thats also an option
[07:04] <mikedraven27> how can i changethe workgroup (network name) in ubuntu
[07:04] <ddilinger> i dont particularly like it as an answer either, but when i wanted to root my android phone and the software didn't work in linux, running it from virtualbox was perfect :)
[07:05] <ltspadmin> on thin client machine not getting 1024x768 resolution ubuntu thin client. motherboard is intel 865gvlf and monitor is 500G
[07:05] <Matrice64> ddilinger: even the android doesn't support direct connection without an app?
[07:05] <ddilinger> this was reflashing the phone
[07:05] <ddilinger> the flash allowed it to be rooted, but the flash software was for window
[07:06] <ddilinger> software came from motorolla, not google
[07:06] <Matrice64> ah I see
[07:06] <inspiron> Does anyone know how to use sed to remove anything but the version number of the kernel? I have a list with strings such as linux-headers-2.6.??-??-generic ...... and I only want to keep the 2.6.??-??
[07:07] <moody> anyone ever have a problem with their wallpaper glitching up and splitting in half, like this? : http://www.moodylamb.com/Screenshot.png
[07:08] <Matrice64> mikedraven27: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272499
[07:09] <kostmo> Within the last week or so, the "Window List" component of my Gnome Panel has not been behaving properly.  Certain windows will decide not to react when clicked, but others will.  So either I'll play whack-a-mole until one window finally opens, or I have to use the scroll wheel of the mouse to switch windows.
[07:09] <tsimpson> inspiron: "sed 's/linxu\-headers-\(.*\)\-generic/\1/g'" should work
[07:09] <kostmo> Has anyone else encountered this?
[07:09] <raj> http://pastebin.org/355852  IS what i get on my card. I should be getting 150M - 300M bitrate .. help i have N wifi and i only get 54M.. N card and N adapter .. no luck HELP
[07:10] <Guest15891> does it work on windows
[07:10] <christ__> can i install ubuntu 8.04 on ma pentium 3 computer
[07:11] <Guest15891> sure
[07:11] <christ__> does it support pentium 3 computer
[07:11] <christ__> desktop
[07:11] <Guest15891> should
[07:11] <christ__> can someone just help me out
[07:11] <alsk> how with apt-get do i install all of the suggested packages i ignored ?
[07:12] <kostmo> christ__: old hardware might accept a smaller distro, like "Puppy Linux", better
[07:12] <inspiron> tsimpson: It doesn't - I managed to get it delete the 2.6.??-?? but can't invert the behaviour
[07:12] <christ__> kostmo: so do u think it will not support ma desktop
[07:13] <tsimpson> inspiron: that works here, eg "echo "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" | sed 's/linux\-headers-\(.*\)\-generic/\1/g'" gives me "2.6.32-22"
[07:13] <kostmo> christ__: no hurt in trying
[07:13] <ubutom_> raj, are you sure your wireless router is using n?
[07:13] <christ__> kostmo: ok.. in that case ok
[07:13] <kostmo> but another backup distro to try is "DSL"
[07:14] <alsk> how with apt-get do i install all of the suggested packages i ignored ?
[07:14] <inspiron> tsimpson: it doesn't work with me. I'll try it again don't worry
[07:14] <New_User> Howdy to all.  I am a new user to Linux and wanted to know if Linux has a feature similiar to what Windows 7 has, or what you can add to XP with extra software.  What I am looking for is a way to select text and have Linux speak it aloud.  Is that possible?  I am going to be installing Ubuntu.
[07:14] <raj> ubutom_:  yes :) its a TEW 644UB i had to get wireless backport modules to get it working
[07:14] <ede> i just set a panel to "auto-hide"...and now it wont appear even when i move my mouse to the edge =(
[07:14] <indus> New_User, of course. its called espeak
[07:14] <Guest15891> New_User, sure
[07:14] <indus> !festival
[07:15] <indus> !info festival
[07:15] <ede> is there a way to get a list of panel?
[07:15] <kanhiya> hello everybody
[07:15] <New_User> After installing Ubuntu I go and install espeak to get that then?
[07:15] <New_User> Thank you.  I appreciate the comments.
[07:16] <ubutom_> raj, no, I meant the router, not the adapter, some devices tend to use a mixed mode or something, for example my router'S default behaviour was to use b/g and I set it to just use g
[07:16] <indus> New_User, which language do you want it in
[07:16] <kanhiya> i  have downloaded edubuntu10.04 and tried to take a look but after booting it asks for a password
[07:16] <New_User> English
[07:16] <hrishi> hi kanhiya
[07:16] <Guest15891> hahahah
[07:16] <indus> New_User, try festival
[07:16] <kanhiya> hrishi: I WAS using Live CD
[07:16] <New_User> Is this a good system for Linux: Old Dell Dimension 2Ghz with 1GB of memory and a 160GB hard drive.
[07:17] <raj> ubutom yes its a b/g/n linksys
[07:17] <indus> New_User, sure its good enough
[07:17] <Guest15891> New_User, sure
[07:17] <mneptok> New_User: *if* the hardware is supported, which a Live sesssion will tell you.
[07:17] <New_User> Wonderful.  I am installing ubuntu now.
[07:17] <hrishi> kanhiya: lucid ?
[07:17] <indus> New_User, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[07:17] <ubutom_> raj, you could try disabling the other modes, maybe that'S enough to fix it :)
[07:17] <indus> do read that link
[07:17] <Jerusalem420> I want to set  Site Name   in Global Config to something containing a quotation mark (") and this is a special character (of course) and it messes up the display of the word. any suggestions?
[07:18] <Jerusalem420> wrong chat room
[07:18] <Guest15891> free software is free but you have to make it work
[07:18] <Jerusalem420> soo sorry
[07:18] <kanhiya> hrishi: yes ,Edubuntu10.04
[07:18] <raj> ubutom will try that thx
[07:18] <mneptok> Jerusalem420: escape the space with \
[07:18] <New_User> I am using a DVD to try out Linux and I like it.  Much cheaper than Windows and since I have not much I want to do on the PC I think Linux is a perfect choice.
[07:19] <Jerusalem420> lol. thanks mneptok. ubuntu people are good people
[07:19] <bh3w> synaptic does not have KDE desktop environment as option for install, how would i go about installing that environment?
[07:19] <mneptok> Jerusalem420: i have my moments.
[07:19] <alsk> no apt users ?
[07:19] <indus> mneptok, :)
[07:19] <hrishi> kanhiya: howz it?
[07:19] <Guest15891> New_User, free software is free but you have to make it work
[07:20] <mneptok> New_User: Linux is not for people with "not much they want to do on the PC"
[07:20] <Guest15891> mnemon, y
[07:20] <Guest15891> mneptok, y
[07:20] <ubutom_> mneptok, depends
[07:20] <LLLLL> yea, I figured it wasn't x86 so I trashed it but it's still on my computer. Should I try it. What's the worse it can happen if I don't have x86 ......talking about Nero for Linux 4.0
[07:20] <hrishi> New_User: if u have lot to do then also linux is the best choice :)
[07:20] <kanhiya> hrishi: how do i know? when i am unable to login as live user,same is the case when i tried to install,it takes me to login screen and asks for user name and password
[07:21] <ubutom_> mneptok, surfing, writing emails, using an office suite, etc, all no problem with linux ;) gamin on the other hand...
[07:21] <ubutom_> *g
[07:21] <Guest15891> gaming is fine if u like pacman
[07:21] <mneptok> ubutom_: sorry, i got serious about gaming and bought a PS3.
[07:21] <Guest15891> mneptok, ps3 is not serious
[07:22] <ubutom_> mneptok, that'S what my windows is for ;D
[07:22] <Guest15891> ubuntom yeah
[07:22] <kanhiya> hrishi: this DVD become useless for me and i have lost a lot of time downloading it
[07:22] <hrishi> kanhiya: by default?
[07:22] <indus> Guest15891, whats with the random comments ?
[07:22] <hrishi> kanhiya: u didn't set any password ?
[07:22] <kanhiya> hrishi: what?
[07:22] <LLLLL> yea, I figured it wasn't x86 so I trashed it but it's still on my computer. Should I try it. What's the worse it can happen if I don't have x86 ......talking about Nero for Linux 4.0
[07:23] <kanhiya> hrishi: i was trying ubuntu without any change to computer
[07:23] <Guest15891> indus what comments
[07:23] <indus> ps3 gaming etc etc
[07:23] <kanhiya> hrishi: means as a live user
[07:24] <MrPPS> hey, i tried installing a package (xplico), and it didn't properly install (from a .deb file), and now i want to remove it, but the standard ways and all the variations of dpkg forcing i've tried don't work
[07:24] <Guest15891> just stating the obvious
[07:24] <MrPPS> any ideas?
[07:24] <hrishi> kanhiya: then u tried to install?
[07:24] <kanhiya> hrishi: so no question arise for user name or password without installing
[07:24] <Jerusalem420> thanks mneptok. it worked
[07:24]  * mneptok bows
[07:25] <Jerusalem420> still lol that i asked my question in the wrong channel and still got a valid answer
[07:25] <kanhiya> hrishi: i also tried that option but same result
[07:25] <abhinav_singh> Hi i am using ubuntu version 10.04.....when I lock the screen it gets hanged.....what to do............
[07:25] <Guest15891> haha
[07:25] <leowang> virtual machine?
[07:25] <hrishi> kanhiya: try booting from that disk
[07:26] <kanhiya> hrishi: what?
[07:26] <abhinav_singh> Hi i am using ubuntu version 10.04.....when I lock the screen it gets hanged.....what to do............
[07:26] <Guest15891> haha
[07:27] <leowang> what do you mean "hanged"?
[07:27] <hrishi> kanhiya: just try to boot from the DVD and then install
[07:27] <Lalitha> ddilinger, Hi. the link that you gave , i saved , changed to +x , and i run it "./file -output.wav"
[07:27] <Lalitha> ddilinger, but it says an error
[07:27] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, same prblem I encountered in 9.10 and 9.04. but now I dont have that prob in 10.04
[07:27] <Lalitha> ./savemusic output.wav
[07:27] <Lalitha> Recording to output.wav ...
[07:27] <Lalitha> Close this window to stop
[07:27] <Lalitha> ./savemusic: line 17: sox: command not found
[07:27] <Lalitha> Stream error: Invalid argument
[07:27] <FloodBot3> Lalitha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <hrishi> leowang :hang= system crash lol
[07:28] <kanhiya> hrishi: i was doing the same but after chosing option to install ,setup automatically takes me to ,that login screen
[07:28] <Lalitha> ddilinger, are you still there ?
[07:28] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav :its strange ..you are also using the same version but your are not having this problem
[07:28] <Guest15891> no one is
[07:28] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, yah :P
[07:29] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav : so did you look for any solution for that problem in your previous versions???????????????????
[07:29] <hrishi> tried 'root' and 'password' ?
[07:29] <ennui> If I want to change the icon for an application in metacity's window switcher, do I need to mess with the source code? :/
[07:30] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, i looked in launchpad bug. but dont know the solution. you look in launchpad again is they solved this bug you may get solution
[07:30] <kanhiya> hrishi: what password
[07:30] <hrishi> kanhiya: tried 'root' and 'password' ?
[07:30] <kanhiya> hrishi: do you mean user name root and password is password
[07:30] <hrishi> kanhiya: username :'root' and password :'password'
[07:31] <hrishi> kanhiya:exactly
[07:31] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav : i am new to linux...is launchpad is a website?
[07:31] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, lanuchpad.net
[07:31] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, sorry launchpad
[07:31] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav, thanks buddy
[07:31] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, sign  up there. and keep eye one bug. if its solved great! not then you wll get some solutin some day. :P
[07:32] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, also you can contribute in lots of projects there and can submit bug there
[07:32] <kanhiya> hrishi: i will try this also! i will be back again
[07:32] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav ,sure
[07:32] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, :)
[07:33] <hrishi> kanhiya: ok
[07:35] <Guest15891> u can submit a bug but real men fix it themself
[07:35] <arunkumar413> hi, i tried to compile a package from  source.it returned some error.dont no how to solve the errors
[07:35] <mneptok> real men spell "you"
[07:36] <ltspadmin> on thin client machine not getting 1024x768 resolution ubuntu thin client. motherboard is intel 865gvlf and monitor is 500G
[07:36] <VanessaE> good morning.  Is there some simple way to issue a command to turn the power on to all USB ports on a laptop?  (Intel 82801 chipset)
[07:36] <ennui> can anyone suggest a ipod manager? I use guayadeque as a player and it's great but it doesn't have any ipod support yet
[07:36] <mneptok> !info gtkpod
[07:36] <VanessaE> (they're defaulting to forced-off, not even a USB mouse lights up)
[07:37] <mneptok> VanessaE: could there be a BIOS setting for that?
[07:37] <Guest15891> ennui, itunes
[07:37] <VanessaE> mnemon, I've looked through the BIOS on this machine already.  There's no such option
[07:38] <indus> ennui, doesnt rhythmbox do it
[07:38] <VanessaE> (for a search of this type, the web is all but useless)
[07:38] <ennui> indus: oops, I had removed rhythmbox because I wasn't using it as a player
[07:39] <indus> ennui, it works fine for ipods , now also with ipod nano and touch i believe
[07:39] <abusado> I need help
[07:39] <kanhiya> hrishi: same result authentication failure
[07:40] <VanessaE> I thought maybe it was a power management issue, but I can't find any clearly-stated way to turn the ports back on (shouldn't the port in use do this automatically?)
[07:40] <abusado>  <---- how to get rid of this bug in bash?
[07:40] <Guest15891> abusado, what bug
[07:40] <abusado> /usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__.py' in '/usr/share/command-not-found' <-- how to get rid of this bug?
[07:40] <abhi_nav> kanhiya,  go to root prompt and from there command line create enw admin user set its username and password and then login to it and form there manager your pc
[07:40] <indus> VanessaE, they do it auto , infact they all have power on even if not connected to it ,
[07:40] <indus> as far as i know,
[07:40] <kanhiya> hrishi: this is biggest bug that i have ever seen,this DVD become useless for me
[07:41] <indus> VanessaE, what exactly is the issue
[07:41] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, ^^
[07:41] <jim> how do you chainload using grub2?
[07:41] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: root prompt in live CD/DVD
[07:41] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, yes
[07:42] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: how?
[07:42] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav well in all the forums there are only questions abt that problem but no site contains solution
[07:42] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, then they ddnt have fixed it yet
[07:42] <abusado> /usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__.py' in '/usr/share/command-not-found' <-- how to get rid of this bug? it should only say COMMAND NOT FOUND not that error
[07:42] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, can you please repeat your question?
[07:42] <VanessaE> indus: the system does not recognize my plugging in either of the two USB devices I have: a standard-issue USB hard drive (with its own power supply), which I normally use with my PC, and an optical mouse, which I was testing with (since it should light up)
[07:42] <indus> jim hi]
[07:42] <nomad77> jim: same as old but use real partition number,not 1 less as in grub-legacy
[07:42] <jim> hi
[07:43] <indus> jim by editing grub config file
[07:43] <indus> jim what do you want to do
[07:43] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav then why to use ubuntu..........i will install fedora13
[07:43] <Guest15891> abusado, ok
[07:43] <VanessaE> no messages of any kind in dmesg other than that which the kernel adds initially when it scans for device drivers to load (it loads OHCI and UHCI automatically)
[07:43] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, sure. you do as you like. its 'free' world ;)
[07:43] <jim> I'm stuck, I dunno grub2 well (or at all even) and trying to help someone, we got somewhere but not everywhere
[07:43] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: my EDUBUNTU 10.04 DVD boots well but after booting it takes me to login screen and asks for user name and password
[07:44] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav yes
[07:44] <yudi1> I am unable to connect to a wireless printer, but can connect to wireless network, it just keeps disconnecting. help
[07:44] <jim> he has ubuntu on hd1 but this grub hasn't seen hd1 yet
[07:44] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, so it diddnt even allow you to install it? and you havnt installed it?
[07:44] <jim> not in its device map or somehting
[07:44] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav ,do u know any flavour of linux which has superb graphics.?
[07:44] <Guest15891> why use fedora when you bun too
[07:44] <ljsoftnet> yudil:can u login to your wireless router?
[07:44] <jim> chocolate
[07:44] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: -i also tried to install it but same result
[07:45] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, channel for fedora is #fedora. you can get info about major linux distro in distrowatch.org and linux.com read there  or ask in  #linux
[07:45] <yudi1> lj, i have no router
[07:45] <ljsoftnet> yudi1: can you login to your wireless router?
[07:45] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, hmm dvd is waste
[07:45] <indus> jim well,. grub config file are in diff locations, grub default options are in /etc/default/grub , then conf file s in /etc/grub.d/40_custom etc
[07:45] <yudi1> i use ad-hoc network, not infrastructure
[07:45] <indus> jim in last one you can add the custom stuff
[07:45] <jim> right now we got the machine to boot from grub
[07:45] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: it does not allow me to select fie systems and location etc
[07:45] <jim> and we're in an old menu
[07:46] <ljsoftnet> yudi1: maybe u need to wireless network cards, 1 for the network and 1 for the printer
[07:46] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, what about downloading fresh iso and creating new dvd? ;)
[07:46] <yudi1> ljsoft, I believe it's got something to do with the print server, its set to APIPA
[07:46] <indus> jim hmm i guess copy grub2 instructions to a pen drive o r something ?
[07:46] <indus> jim or note down on paper ;)
[07:47] <yudi1> ljsoft, no I do not need any cards, It works like a charm on vista, same laptop daul boot
[07:47] <arunkumar413> indus: hi
[07:47] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: than what to do? i have downloaded it from EDUBUNTU OFFICIAL SITE and used a download manager
[07:47] <indus> arunkumar413, hello
[07:47] <VanessaE> indus, is there a way to test the ports to see if they even work?
[07:47] <arunkumar413> indus: i installed the qt3 dev tools
[07:47] <indus> VanessaE, if you put your finger in it , a nice shock should be received :D
[07:47] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, there is a facility to check 'checksum' and aother is 'check installation media' you go to both of this option and see what they say
[07:47] <indus> VanessaE, well , is this the front ports on the case ?
[07:48] <arunkumar413> indus: and tried to compile a package from source.it's giving errors
[07:48] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: right now i do not have a broadband connection, to download it again
[07:48] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, ^^
[07:48] <indus> arunkumar413, hold on, iam with some other user
[07:48] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, where do you live?
[07:48] <kanhiya> okay! i will see that option also
[07:48] <VanessaE> indus: I assume you mean to ask whether they're even connected to the mainboard.  This is on a laptop, and they're on the side actually, but I've also tried the ones on the back.
[07:48] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: i am from India
[07:49] <ljsoftnet> yudi1: im a bit confused about, your problem, try to ask again
[07:49] <indus> VanessaE,ah ok my mistake
[07:49] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, I know that dear. I mean city
[07:49] <indus> VanessaE, so none of your usb devicse work ?
[07:49] <jsoft> Whats some interesting-ish program to install.
[07:49] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: Panipat (Haryana)
[07:50] <AAA> jsoft  what are you interested in? apt-cache search <string>
[07:50] <indus> VanessaE, ok try this, first check dmesg | tail
[07:50] <VanessaE> indus, not exactly
[07:50] <ubufool> i think a cat pee'd on my motherboard...one of my nics isnt working right...how do i test it?
[07:50] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, ahh ok. what I was suggestin was if some ubuntu userfrm same city can help you by downloading iso for you. i am from mumbai
[07:50] <indus> VanessaE, then plug a device and check dmesg | tail again
[07:50] <jsoft> AAA: im just bored atm, is all.
[07:50] <Guest15891> ubufool, really?
[07:50] <notee39> hihihi
[07:50] <ubufool> yea =c
[07:50] <jim> jsoft: inkscape, gimp, scheme
[07:50] <Guest15891> ubufool, hahahaha
[07:51] <notee39> who is borring
[07:51] <ubufool> no more super seeding -.-
[07:51] <indus> ubufool, how can a cat access the motherboard ??
[07:51] <yudi1> ljsoft, it's a networking issue, my laptop is not connecting to the printer wirelessly, no routers, it's direct. i just want to figure out where and what is going wrong, once if I can connect, i will be able to print,
[07:51] <VanessaE> I just checked my USB card reader - it powers on, but dmesg shows nothing of consequence.  my USB mouse doesn't even light up, and none of the three actually *do* anything
[07:51] <ubufool> my pc is open..air circulation =c
[07:51] <indus> VanessaE, can i see your dmesg output
[07:51] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: there are very few linux user in Panipat
[07:51] <VanessaE> (i.e. no windows popping up or status messages in the log, or even so much as a flicker of the access light)
[07:51] <VanessaE> sure one sec.
[07:52] <indus> VanessaE, both on connecting and on removal of device please
[07:52] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, yah ok you go to that checksum and check installation media option see what they give. if error then dvd is of no use.
[07:52] <indus> jim
[07:52] <indus> jim you there ?
[07:52] <Aiffe> Hello, can anyone help me? I have no sound on a new install of Lucid, and I've checked alsamixer/unmuted everything/checked the groups.
[07:52] <indus> have you readgrub 2 docs jim
[07:52] <ubufool> i cleaned some of what i could see. but i'll probably have to take the board out and open the metal case..clean the connections...I would like to know the command to see if it can be re-detected/installed
[07:53] <kanhiya> okay i am also going to check that also!
[07:53] <indus> ubufool,  if the urine dries, it might leave deposits maybe :D not sure
[07:53] <jim> no not yet
[07:53] <indus> !grub2
[07:53] <jim> we may not need to yet
[07:53] <VanessaE> indus:  http://pastebin.com/hbkaRtyN
[07:53] <ubufool> yea.. dried pee is a gooey mess
[07:54] <ubufool> and wil eat away the insulation..
[07:54] <jim> I'm trying one more thing and then giving up for tonite :)
[07:54] <indus> VanessaE, only dmesg | tail please
[07:54] <VanessaE> within that should have been at least three or four plug-and-unplug events, but I don't see anything of interest beyond the initial device scan
[07:54] <VanessaE> oh, sure
[07:54] <ubufool> is there a way to re-install the nic? i can't remove it physically..like a card it's on board so...
[07:55] <indus> jim also, simple chainloading definition http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Chainloading_in_Linux
[07:55] <Aiffe> I'm sorry to bother people, I just really don't know how to fix this, I followed the sound troubleshooting guides and nothing works. :(
[07:55] <VanessaE> indus:  http://pastebin.com/2jRV92vs
[07:55] <VanessaE> (as you can see, no reaction at all from the kernel)
[07:55] <demitrius> Aiffe - you're not a bother. Don't have any ideas for you, sorry.
[07:55] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: how to compare checksum
[07:56] <MoMo> if i have about 20 linux machines a good amount of ubuntu with some redhat here and there .. and I want to run a bash script on ALL of the machines ... i was smart enough to put a root password that is the same on all the machines, but i don't have a list of all the machine ips ... what is the easiest way to scan the ip ranges, ssh run script from a common server share and move onto the next server?
[07:56] <indus> VanessaE, ok bad usb device or port, but mostly device ?
[07:56] <vu1kan> does anybody know why the 'pop-up notifications' in prefs doesn't seem to apply changes?(specifically i'm trying to get the pop-ups to show in the lower right corner, but even though i've selected that option, they still show in the upper corner)
[07:56] <ubufool> also would like to know how to update to ubuntustudio from original 10.4?
[07:56] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, try linux mint
[07:56] <Aiffe> Thanks anyway, demitrius.  I appreciate  the answer.
[07:56] <indus> VanessaE, or a kernel issue, which version of ubuntu is this
[07:56] <VanessaE> indus: three different devices, no reaction on any of them.
[07:56] <demitrius> Aiffe - have you run the "Hardware Drivers" program?
[07:56] <VanessaE> This is Lucid.
[07:56] <indus> VanessaE, netbook , laptop ?
[07:56] <VanessaE> laptop, Dell Inspiron 9200
[07:56] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, from whre you downloaded iso on that page they give its checksum. download that and there is a text base program something called md5 you check with it
[07:56] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, you have to install md5 its very small program
[07:56] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav:what is linux mint?
[07:57] <Aiffe> demitrius - how do I run that?
[07:57] <C\> wow
[07:57] <bricky> VanessaE broadcom
[07:57] <rww> vu1kan: I believe that preferences thing is for GNOME's notification daemon, which isn't notify-osd, which is what Ubuntu uses.
[07:57] <VanessaE> bricky: eh?
[07:57] <bricky> ?
[07:57] <C\> my issue was that every tim i join large channels my computer freezes
[07:57] <bricky> the network card
[07:57] <C\> this don't help
[07:57] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh,a derivative of ubuntu with multimedia and other software preinstalled
[07:57] <indus> VanessaE, does it work in windows !???
[07:57] <VanessaE> oh, for the wireless?  no idea.  That part just works. :)
[07:57] <VanessaE> I don't have windows on this machine.
[07:57] <ubufool> usually
[07:57] <vu1kan> rww is there a way(gui or cli) to modify where notify-osd pops up at?
[07:57] <jim> so how do you mount /dev, I'm going to try a chroot
[07:57] <ubufool> whats the model and maker of the wii?
[07:57] <demitrius> Aiffe - System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[07:57] <ubufool> wifi
[07:57] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, linuxmint.com
[07:57] <indus> VanessaE, that is the only way to check ,or another distro might beof use
[07:57] <rww> vu1kan: I'm not aware of notify-osd having any preferences whatsoever, actually :(
[07:57] <squareBOX> morning all
[07:58] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav and ubuntustudio?
[07:58] <VanessaE> lesse...
[07:58] <indus> VanessaE, otherwise usb header gone bad maybe inside
[07:58] <Aiffe> demitrius - yes, I ran that first thing, to get my wireless working.
[07:58] <VanessaE> 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[07:58] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, ubuntustudi is for artists, musician, advertise field, etc you read more in ubuntustudio.org
[07:58] <VanessaE> there it is.
[07:58] <indus> VanessaE, in bios ??
[07:58] <vu1kan> rww. thanks, but knuts...i found a guide on ubuntuforums to recompile it, but i'm not comfertable doing that, yet
[07:58] <MoMo> hmmm
[07:58] <indus> VanessaE, double check bios options
[07:58] <demitrius> Aiffe - oh, okay. that's all I can think of, sorry.
[07:58] <VanessaE> indus: no BIOS settings that affect USB, other than offering a boot order option
[07:58] <squareBOX> hey all, can yoiu tell em does ubuntu use ss to replace netstat? im writing a script for redhat based OS's but want to make sure it works on ubuntu/debian based os's as well
[07:58] <Aiffe> It's okay, thanks for trying. I appreciate it.
[07:59] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, ubuntustudio for multimedia, audio and video filed e.g. cinema, etc
[07:59] <demitrius> Sure thing!
[07:59] <VanessaE> (it apparently could boot from a USB fob if I had one)
[07:59] <jim> VanessaE, could you show the same line from lspci -nn
[07:59] <abhinav_singh> abhi_nav ok
[07:59] <indus> VanessaE,tried that ?
[07:59] <indus> VanessaE, at least the usb port can be tested
[07:59] <VanessaE> Jim:  02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection [8086:4220] (rev 05)
[07:59] <MoMo> i was thinking i could make a script to ping and then increment the last octet by 1, and for every live IP ... add it to a flat file
[07:59] <indus> VanessaE, but since you said the device lights up etc, seems more complicated
[08:00] <indus> VanessaE, only way i say is use another linux distro and check this
[08:00] <VanessaE> I would try, but I don't have any  bootable USB devices :-/
[08:00] <indus> VanessaE, or if possible a windows os
[08:00] <VanessaE> well I guess I could check with the Gentoo CD, I have that handy and I'm well versed with it.
[08:00] <VanessaE> Windows, G*d forbid no.
[08:00] <AAA> jsoft  nmap, tcpdump, nc
[08:00] <jim> VanessaE, modprobe ipw2200
[08:00] <indus> VanessaE, omg gentoo :)
[08:00] <VanessaE> Jim: the wireless works fine.  I'm using it now.
[08:01] <jim> oh nevermind then :)
[08:01] <VanessaE> Jim:  The problem is the USB ports.
[08:01] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, read my pm
[08:01] <angelete2> hi
[08:01] <indus> VanessaE, how about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/564459
[08:01] <angelete2> i've instaled 10.04 server
[08:01]  * VanessaE looks...
[08:01] <angelete2> and during instalation process i set up my raid and lvm volumes
[08:02] <angelete2> but i've tried to change them manually later on
[08:02] <indus> dont think its the right solution but can try , its for usb hdd i believe
[08:02] <angelete2> but any time i boot my manual config is overriden with the installation one
[08:02] <VanessaE> I have a USB HD as well, same issue
[08:02] <jim> VanessaE: oh, if you use the usb cables as wireless antennae...
[08:02] <vu1kan> !enter | angelete2
[08:02] <angelete2> where is this config stored in order to erase it?
[08:03] <Aiffe> Oh, if it helps, I have a forum post with some more info here-- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516526 basically, everything says it should be working, I just don't hear anything.
[08:03] <jim> how do you mount the devfs a second time?
[08:03] <jim> I want the thing mounted on /dev to be also mounted on /mnt/dev
[08:03] <kanhiya> abhi_nav:  i am confused ,i went to site from where i have downloaded it and get MD5 Data for link that i have downloaded but do not know from where to download comparator
[08:04] <angelete2>  i've instaled 10.04 server. during instalation process i set up my raid and lvm volumes, but i've tried to change them manually later on. but any time i boot my manual config is overriden with the installation one.where is this config stored in order to erase it?
[08:04] <angelete2> vu1kan: better this way?
[08:04] <interanut> abhinav : if you open K3B it will check MD5
[08:04] <kanhiya> abhi_nav: 5eccab9d5956956c3dc28d5a6c4a2e69 *edubuntu-10.04-dvd-i386.iso
[08:05] <VanessaE> ok, no good by adding the usb-storage module.  Also of note: the USB card reader, when it powers up, shows both the power light and the "card is mounted" light - even when empty.  This is not the usual behavior of this device on my PC.
[08:05] <vu1kan> angelete2 makes for less noise in the channel; but this is the ubuntu desktop channel, you might have better luck in #ubuntu-server
[08:05] <AAA> jim  just mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/mntpoint
[08:05] <abhi_nav> kanhiya, i am busy with another user you ask here that how to check checksum
[08:05] <kanhiya> how to check that while using windows
[08:05] <angelete2> ook, thankyou
[08:06] <yillkid> I am reading the nvidia official document: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/195.36.24/README/installedcomponents.html I think, too much unuse and dependency packages for me. If I want to install this driver minimize (I don't need any develope packages), how I should do? Just copy the files in this like from a driver install already OS?
[08:07] <VanessaE> bbiab, let's see what this does under Gentoo.
[08:07] <abhi_nav> interanut, ask you question here
[08:07] <ubufool> do not install nvidia drivers...they wont work like the linux offical drivers..
[08:07] <kanhiya> anybody knows how to compare checksums
[08:07] <AAA> VanessaE  does $ dmesg | tail -n 20 show you the device?
[08:07] <kanhiya> using windows
[08:08] <AAA> kanhiya  md5sume <file> && md5sum <another file> then compare
[08:08] <arunkumar413> indus: r u there
[08:08] <industrial> I have compiz installed but dont want to use the gnome display manager compiz settings. Where do I find the settings to enable the cube etc? it's not running atm either.
[08:08] <kanhiya> right now i am  using windows
[08:08] <ubufool> update-manager -d <<< is this how i should update from 10.4 to ubuntu studio??10.10????
[08:08] <AAA> kanhiya  windows is not supported here. cygwin may help you
[08:08] <abhi_nav> interanut, what happend>
[08:08] <abhi_nav> ?
[08:09] <kanhiya> AAA: i do not understand? what is cygwin
[08:09] <benjamin> ?
[08:09] <phawx> i just downloaded a rar file, and clicked open instead of save and i get a 'associated helper application does not exist'
[08:09] <ubufool> i've already asked in #ubuntustudio..but they sleeping...
[08:10] <abhi_nav> abhinav_singh, you there?
[08:10] <vu1kan> kanhiya it's a program for windows that emulates a terminal interface, allows you to preform many linux commands in windows
[08:10] <phawx> whats the associated helper application for rars
[08:10] <sweetpi> kanhiya: http://www.md5summer.org/
[08:10] <n3m3s1s4u> Hi All
[08:10] <yillkid> ubufool: I say, the nvidia driver package by ubuntu official is better ?
[08:10] <vu1kan> !info rar
[08:11] <n3m3s1s4u> Please o please - I am desperate for a answer to a dual boot problem with windows 7 64 bit and ubuntu 10.04 64 bit
[08:11] <industrial> vu1kan: clearly thats not a gui app and not what he wants
[08:11] <yillkid> ubufool: You say, the nvidia driver package by ubuntu official is better ?
[08:11] <n3m3s1s4u> I have looked everywhere and no answers that clear this up :(
[08:11] <ubufool> yillkid yes...
[08:11] <vu1kan> industrial i thought the command would return something else...i use archive manager, myself
[08:11] <phawx> vu1kan, i know what a rar file is....and this error just started happening.
[08:12] <industrial> I have compiz installed but dont want to use the gnome display manager compiz settings. Where do I find the settings to enable the cube etc? it's not running atm either.
[08:12] <yillkid> ubufool: Really? Why? Can you give me something for proof it ?
[08:12] <ubufool> the ubuntu nvidia drivers are built for ubuntu/linux.. the ones from nvidia webste or others.. usually don't work properly
[08:12] <rww> !ccsm | industrial
[08:12] <industrial> ty
[08:13] <ubufool> i have an nvidia gfx card.. they don't work..it usually doesnt detect properly
[08:13] <indus> yillkid, ubufool is right, the ubuntu package is better and doesnt break things
[08:13] <yillkid> ubufool: but the version of nvidia driver in ubuntu is very old.
[08:13] <n3m3s1s4u> New Asus Laptp - Windows 7 64 bit, installed Ubuntu 10.04 - boots fine into Ubuntu - but now it gives me a BSOD in Windows 7 after the little balls on the screen appear.... the error is 0x0000007b (it will go into safe mode but not normal mode now that I have installed ubuntu )???
[08:13] <indus> yillkid, why do you need a new driver in linux anyway
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: what does the stop code mean?
[08:13] <n3m3s1s4u> I have reloaed all twice - but still doing the same thing!
[08:13] <ubufool> yillid the ones provided for your detected card, are the most stable release ubuntu has built for ubuntu
[08:14] <arunkumar413> indus: hey
[08:14] <indus> arunkumar413, yeah
[08:14] <vu1kan> phawx gimme a min, i'll search through my installed packages and get the package name for archive manager
[08:14] <yillkid> OK . I just think the newer is better .
[08:14] <indus> ubufool, its not necessarily stable
[08:14] <n3m3s1s4u> I get many different answers... some say it is raid related (?? I am on a laptop) and some say it is to do with the partition / drive resizing...
[08:14] <arunkumar413> indus: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/iBLBjbhX
[08:14] <ubufool> often "newest" is not the best and still has bugs that have not been reported to nvidia or ubuntu, and they will continue to work to bring newer ones to us
[08:14] <phawx> vu1kan, should just be archive manager?
[08:14] <indus> ubufool, i mean its stable , but newer ones might fix some bugs
[08:14] <phawx> ive got it installed
[08:15] <yillkid> OK . I know .
[08:15] <vu1kan> !info archive manager
[08:15] <n3m3s1s4u> I am busy reloading again now - in hopes to try a different method of installing ubuntu dual boot...
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Yillkid: the nvidia vdpau may give later drivers, or (risky) xorg-edgers ppa
[08:15] <n3m3s1s4u> something goes wrong with the resize / grub - but not sure why safe mode works though
[08:15] <ubufool> indus..when 173.00 first came out, it fried many cards...
[08:15] <rww> !info file-roller | vu1kan
[08:15] <n3m3s1s4u> i have tried all the repairs on the win 7 console
[08:15] <phawx> vu1kan, i can double click the rar file and it opens in archive manager, but not when i click open instead of save, from a website
[08:15] <n3m3s1s4u> no difference though
[08:15] <indus> ubufool, i used the 173 for a long loing time,
[08:15] <ubufool> it is now the most stable release provided..
[08:15] <indus> ubufool, it worked best for me
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: you should look at what the stop code means. The system is telling you what's going on
[08:15] <tgywa> hello
[08:15] <ubufool> xD
[08:16] <leifw> so I'm trying to remove evolution, evolution-data-server, and all its plugins, but apt-get and aptitude both think that packages that recommend those need to be removed as well (or, in aptitude's case, keep recommending me that I should keep them or just downgrade them).  how do I tell it that yes, I really want those packages, and just those packages, removed?
[08:16] <indus> ubufool, ubuntu doenst change any thing in the driver
[08:16] <tgywa> which module is required by .htaccess ?
[08:16] <tgywa> on apache 1.3
[08:16] <ubufool> indus thx to all the testers who knew what to look for and helped debug it...i was one of them
[08:16] <indus> ubufool, so no way it fried cards befoer and stopped it later
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> leifw: one of the packages is a dep of gnome-panel so watch what you remove
[08:16] <ubufool> ubuntu did not get the release that fried cards..
[08:16] <leifw> yeah that was one of them
[08:16] <leifw> why on earth does gnome panel depend on evolution components?
[08:17] <indus> ubufool, so a 173... something then
[08:17] <vu1kan> phawx it sounds like you need to set up firefox to use file-roller as a helper...
[08:17] <indus> 173.some point release
[08:17] <n3m3s1s4u> I have - but it keeps telling me it is drive / sata related - but why only after install ubuntu??
[08:17] <n3m3s1s4u> before I have no problems...
[08:17] <ubufool> it was an early release...that later got corrected... i'm sure you could google around and find plenty of piee'd off people making posts about it..unless they were removed..
[08:17] <indus> anyway, lets move on
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u:  is your bios the latest?
[08:17] <ubufool> yes xD
[08:18] <yillkid> But I still have problem. The size of nVidia driver package by ubuntu is total 334 MB, it's too big. I refer the document, I found too many unuse and dependency packages in it, I want to install the driver only, I don't need develope packages, how I should do? Install the driver in one pc, and copy the file I need to tthe other pc ?
[08:18] <indus> :D
[08:18] <n3m3s1s4u> its a brand new notebook?
[08:18] <ubufool> it no longer does this and is fixed..so no need to worry about it
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: means nothing, check it
[08:18] <indus> ubufool, i moved on to an ATI
[08:18] <n3m3s1s4u> ok - but how will this solve something that happens after ubuntu gets installed?
[08:18] <n3m3s1s4u> ubuntu works perfectly
[08:18] <ubufool> yea thats the route most went..
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: can you type my nick if your text is aimed at me. The highlighting of your name isn't accidental
[08:19] <ubufool> yillid you are not soppose to d/l the dev packages
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: use tab to complete the nick
[08:19] <vu1kan> phawx it should be in edit>preferences>applications
[08:19] <n3m3s1s4u> ActionParsnip, ok
[08:19] <ubufool> yillid nvidia glx new.. is all you need...
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: i'd ask in ##windows too as the issue is with windows. Someone may have had the same issue
[08:20] <phawx> vu1kan, its under Applications, rar's are set to always ask
[08:20] <n3m3s1s4u> ActionParsnip, will do quickly becaue this is soul destroying!!
[08:20] <ubufool> this is automatically selected and installed once you first start ubuntu with the card installed
[08:20] <ubufool> you just have to activate it
[08:20] <neo_> hello
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: could just ditch windows ;)
[08:20] <magicdroid> nickserv down?
[08:20] <yillkid> ubufool: But I don't need some develope packages, for example, I don't need kernel header, because I will not develop anything with nVidia driver, I think the kernel header dependency is just for cuda develope.
[08:21] <arunkumar413> indus: did u get anything?
[08:21] <iceroot> magicdroid: #freenode
[08:21] <indus> arunkumar413, for what
[08:21] <leifw> ugh that is annoying
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> magicdroid: I'm identified so I doubt it
[08:21] <leifw> whatever, good enough
[08:21] <arunkumar413> indus: i mean did u understand anything in the link i gave
[08:21] <indus> arunkumar413, didnt see
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> yillkid: you'll need the headers to compile the kernel module as part of the driver install.
[08:22] <arunkumar413> indus: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/iBLBjbhX
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> yillkid: its part of dkms which automagically occurs
[08:22] <leifw> and this dependence on couchdb is ridiculous too
[08:22] <ubufool> right.. you don't need anything else...just un-install everything related to it...reboot and xserver will load in low graphics...continue like that..then install the "restricted" drivers when prompted...these are all you will need..and aren't really "restricted"
[08:22] <n3m3s1s4u> ActionParsnip, I would like to but, business will not permit this as yet...
[08:23] <AAA> yillkid  apt-get intall build-essential
[08:23] <yillkid> ActionParsnip: OK, but when I compile the module done, I can't purge the kernel header! because it's the nVidia driver dependency.
[08:23] <magicdroid> damn.. been too long... had to do it @ freenode. thx
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> n3m3s1s4u: ok well you have stuff to run with now :)
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> yillkid: yes, it will be needed next time you get a new kernel via updates
[08:23] <ubufool> your card may need that
[08:24] <ubufool> pls follow their advice as i'm quite noob and my method is not best
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> yillkid: you can uninstall old kernels to free up space and the headers for that kernel will go with it
[08:25] <yillkid> AAA: I know build-essential is need, but I want to purge it when I have install nVidia driver done. Can it?
[08:25] <indus> arunkumar413, sorry but iam a noob at compiling stuff, have to trouble shoot yourself
[08:25] <jim> so re182 was askiing me about how to recover, and we got part of it done (it boots into grub)
[08:25] <bricky> hey when I try to build my bcm wifi driver from module-assistant I get the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/454312/
[08:25] <arunkumar413> indus: will uploading the code to launchpad get some attention from others
[08:25] <re182> yes. windows = main drive, ubuntu = secondary
[08:26] <AAA> yillkid  if you installed it as a deb, then yes. if you installed via source then it will be manual. there is usually a make deb in the source, fyi
[08:26] <re182> it boots into grub but not past that
[08:26] <indus> arunkumar413, ah heh no launchpad is not for that purpose
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | re182
[08:26] <indus> arunkumar413, ask the devs of the product for help
[08:26] <bricky> does anyone know how I can make that error stop? :)
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Re182: look at the grub config files using that guide. It will help
[08:26] <sweetpi> bricky: install dpatch
[08:27] <bricky> sweetpi: sick!
[08:27] <bricky> I shall try that now
[08:28] <yillkid> AAA: You say even if the "build-essential" is depend on "nVidia driver", but if I install "build-essential" before "nVidia driver", then I can purge build-essential", and won't break "nVidia driver" ?
[08:28] <gatto> l
[08:29] <AAA> yillkid  no, you are confused
[08:29] <yillkid> AAA: You say, I must install "nVidia driver" and use 334 MB, that's all ?
[08:30] <arunkumar413> indus: the author didnt provide any contact details
[08:30] <AAA> yillkid  build-essential will only give you the tools to build drivers and programs and such.  however, if you have all the tools to build the nvidia code from source, you should be able to also make a deb for your system. once you install that deb you will be able to --purge those files when you choose
[08:30] <arunkumar413> indus: ok got it
[08:31] <indus> arunkumar413, why do you need this software >
[08:31] <Guest79408> how do I change bg color in lynx?
[08:32] <arunkumar413> indus: it is  a schematic editor to draw electronic schematic diagrams
[08:33] <yillkid> AAA: I know, but if I excute #aptitude install nvidia-glx-185, then I install the driver, and I will spend 334MB space for HDD, I have no choice for minimal install ?
[08:33] <indus> arunkumar413, well, try dia, its a good tool;
[08:33] <indus> !info dia
[08:34] <indus> the best indeed
[08:34] <yillkid> AAA: I just want to install the driver as mini as I can, because I don't want to update anything for the PC, it's just a embedded product.
[08:35] <AAA> yillkid  ah, it sounds like you want apt-get clean then (removes old debs)
[08:35] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "libgdata-google1.2-1  --  Client library for accessing Google POA through SOAP interface. This package is a client library to access Google services through a SOAP interface." What does 'POA' stand for?
[08:35] <yillkid> AAA: no no.
[08:35] <AAA> yillkid  I misunderstood
[08:35] <arunkumar413> indus: dia is for drawing general drawing. for creating electronics circuit diagrams we need a special program.there are many but i dint like them. So i want to try this and customize to my needs
[08:35]  * VanessaE grumbles at her computer.
[08:36] <yillkid> AAA: I want to insatll nVidia "driver only", I want to install the other unuse package. Because it's a embedded product, the HDD space is very precious.
[08:36] <yillkid> AAA: I want to insatll nVidia "driver only", I DON'T want to install the other unuse package. Because it's a embedded product, the HDD space is very precious.
[08:36] <VanessaE> Well the Gentoo CD didn't do any better.  *igh*
[08:37] <VanessaE> *sigh* too
[08:37] <AAA> yillkid it doesn't look like more than 48M here
[08:37] <VanessaE> AAA, to answer your question from earlier, none of the USB devices I've tried show up anywhere in dmesg.  The only mention of USB-anything is during the initial system probe when the kernel initializes the various drivers.
[08:38] <AAA> VanessaE  anything in lsusb ?
[08:38] <scar_> I've got a problem with old geforce cards (anything from 2 mx up to mx 440), with nouveau I can't change my screen to 1280x1024, with proprietary nvidia-96 x is broken (known issue with old cards), with vesa i have same problem as nouveau and finnaly with nv driver it works under 1280x1024 provided that i use a custom xorg.conf but still no 2d rendering
[08:38] <VanessaE> AAA: four "root hub" entries.
[08:38] <VanessaE> (each at a different address, three 1.1's and a 2.0)
[08:38] <yillkid> AAA: Sorry, I don't understand want are you talking about, sorry my poor English .
[08:39] <AAA> VanessaE  sounds like it doesn't see your usb _at all_ hrm... unplug and replug with nothing new?
[08:39] <yillkid> AAA: The nVidia driver will spend my 334MB HDD sapce, It's exaggerate .
[08:40] <VanessaE> AAA: nope, nothing new.
[08:40] <AAA> yillkid   apt-cache show nvidia-glx-185  <--- Installed-Size: 48
[08:40] <ubufool> ??? thats one old hd?
[08:40] <VanessaE> neither the mouse nor the card reader elicit a response.
[08:40] <yillkid> AAA: yes, yes. But the dependency package is very very lot and big.
[08:41] <VanessaE> (nor does my USB HD for that matter)
[08:41] <AAA> VanessaE  hrm... are you sure usb is turn on in the bios? is this a newer computer? what does $ lsmod | grep usb say?
[08:41] <VanessaE> AAA: there is no USB setting in the BIOS.
[08:41] <yillkid> AAA: The key point is the dependency packages, :'(
[08:42] <AAA> yillkid sorry. I don't think I can help you there :(
[08:42] <yillkid> AAA: Ok, thank you. :)
[08:42] <VanessaE> AAA: lsmod|grep -i usb returns nothing at all.
[08:42] <Naresh> hi
[08:42] <AAA> VanessaE  and you are saying that no usb device insertion into your laptop/pc shows anyting in dmesg | tail nor lsusb ?
[08:43] <VanessaE> grep'ing for "hci" returns five entries, none of which are USB related.
[08:43] <VanessaE> AAA:  that is correct.
[08:43] <VanessaE> inserting a device gets no kernel/dmesg reaction whatsoever
[08:43] <AAA> VanessaE  pastebin this please. $ lspci -v && lsusb -v
[08:44] <AAA> VanessaE  with usb plugged in
[08:44] <cutiyar> why i cant access to youtube with my ubuntu ?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: you dont have flash installed
[08:44] <doyle> cutiyar: you need the ubuntube version for that
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: and / or javascript enabled
[08:45] <cutiyar> not this , the will not open
[08:45] <rls> rg
[08:45] <cutiyar> after a few minute will gateway timeout
[08:45] <doyle> cutiyar: error message or just blank white screen?
[08:45] <VanessaE> http://pastebin.com/tpyftjD7
[08:45] <oddalot> you need to install flash to watch youtube
[08:45] <AAA> VanessaE  and is this ubuntu 10.4? and have you messed with udev on this box?
[08:45] <cutiyar> error messege
[08:46] <doyle> cutiyar: what error and can you access other sites?
[08:46] <VanessaE> AAA: this is 10.4, yes.  I have not messed with udev.
[08:46] <cutiyar> doyle ,yes i can access to other sites
[08:46] <VanessaE> (I haven't had much time to mess with anything on this machine)
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: what if you go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:47] <cutiyar> doyle, but yesterday was opened
[08:47] <cutiyar> but i dont y now do not open
[08:47] <VanessaE> AAA: I had the USB card reader plugged in when I took that snapshot, btw.
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: reboot your router and / or modem
[08:47] <cutiyar> i did it before
[08:47] <VanessaE> (works fine on my husband's Ubuntu 10.04 box)
[08:48] <doyle> VanessaE: You've tried usb ports on both the front and back of the PC?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: if you ping www.youtube.com, what IP do you get?
[08:49] <VanessaE> doyle: this is a laptop, but yes I've tried both sets of ports (side and back).
[08:49] <cutiyar> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:49] <doyle> cutiyar: the error message is "Gateway Error"? Is there a number with it?
[08:49] <doyle> VanessaE: other devices work in the usb ports?
[08:49] <cutiyar> doyle,yesss
[08:49] <indus> arunkumar413, hi
[08:49] <VanessaE> doyle: nothing works at all in the USB ports.
[08:49] <cutiyar> no number
[08:49] <VanessaE> that's the whole problem.
[08:49] <VanessaE> :(
[08:49] <indus> arunkumar413, so dia doesnt not fit your needs?
[08:50] <arunkumar413> indus: no it doesnt
[08:50] <indus> VanessaE, the #ubuntu-kernel team might be of help
[08:50] <AAA> VanessaE  is there a card in the reader? if not can you put one in? do you have an usb mouse or another usb thing to plug in?
[08:50] <VanessaE> (these are devices I use quite frequently with another linux box)
[08:50] <indus> sorry i lost connection
[08:50] <VanessaE> AAA: I have tried my USB mouse, no dice.
[08:51] <cutiyar> doyle,actionParsnip, http://paste.debian.net/78595/
[08:51] <indus> arunkumar413, something called electric
[08:51] <indus> !info electric
[08:51] <TheExplorer> Hello everyone, how are you today? ***I'M SORRY, PLEASE IGNORE THESE CAPITAL LETTERS AND ASTERIXIS.  IT IS VERY RUDE OF ME.*** Does anyone know where i can find details on what is or how to, install Ubuntu arm on a device using only HaRET and a 2 x 2g sdio/CF?
[08:51] <DudeES> I have ubuntu based system and i want to read window 7 through USB
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: what is the output of: lsb_release -a
[08:51] <DudeES> ?
[08:51] <AAA> VanessaE  i'd like to see lsusb -v with the mouse in
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: use your pastebin again please, there will be a lot of data
[08:52] <VanessaE> ok, I'm on the other channel now, though I'm reluctant to ask my question there (I don't wish to sound repetative)
[08:52] <arunkumar413> indus: i tried many but not interested in any of those. Thats why i zeroed on this and trying to customize
[08:52] <VanessaE> AAA: one second.
[08:52] <red2kic> /ignore TheExplorer
[08:52] <red2kic> Whoops.
[08:52] <AAA> VanessaE  also, you have 3 usb1 ports and 1 usb2 port. you might try changing the usb port you plug into
[08:52] <indus> arunkumar413, did you try this one though
[08:52] <TheExplorer> and here i was going for a joke.
[08:52] <doyle> VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/tpyftjD7
[08:52] <Gnea> TheExplorer: being annoying on purpose is akin to shooting yourself in the foot. good luck getting that bandaged up.
[08:52] <bricky> is there a way to either flash my wifi card drivers, tried multiple headers, whatever that is, since they are 'installed' but  not quite
[08:53] <bricky> working
[08:53] <arunkumar413> indus: which one electric or BSch
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> bricky: how do you mean flash?
[08:53] <indus> arunkumar413, i dont understand why dia doesnt fit in , i heard its good for this work
[08:53] <indus> arunkumar413, electric
[08:53] <Gnea> bricky: depends on the card
[08:53] <VanessaE> AAA: http://pastebin.com/fivngzuX
[08:53] <cutiyar> doyle,actionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/nzsWkmgG
[08:53] <TheExplorer> Frankly ive been scouring the net for a couple years off and on trying to figure this out. Frankly im starting to think its as close to impossible as im willing to admit
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: what country are you from?
[08:53] <cutiyar> iraq
[08:53] <VanessaE> doyle, that's my paste from earlier.
[08:54] <arunkumar413> indus: no didnt try.But does it allow customising the components and IC symbols
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> TheExplorer: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/ubuntu-netbook-edition-1007-demoed-on.html
[08:54] <cutiyar> ActionParsnip , iraq
[08:54] <bricky> ActionParsnip: just jremove them, perhaps if the system could figure out which drivers failed maybe because I cant. :P
[08:54] <Gnea> !respect
[08:54] <Amos> hey could someone help me? on ubuntu and cant make a  freebsd 8.0 bootable usb from a iso :(
[08:54] <Gnea> oh look, it's not there.
[08:54] <doyle> VanessaE: was just looking at it. Looks fine to me. When was the last time your usb ports functioned?
[08:54] <bricky> Gnea: broadcom 57x ;p
[08:54] <indus> arunkumar413, dont know that
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: try: www.hidemyass.com   and try youtube there, your government may be blocking youtube
[08:55] <Gnea> bricky: hmmm... built-in?
[08:55] <cutiyar> but yesterday was opened
[08:55] <bricky> Gnea: or maybe perhaps install generic wifi drivers, for it
[08:55] <bricky> Gnea: yes its PCI
[08:55] <indus> ActionParsnip, i thought iraq has a whitehouse today :)
[08:55] <arunkumar413> indus: thats why i need a basic program that i can customize. So i choose the BSch for compiling
[08:55] <VanessaE> doyle: I've only just received this laptop a couple of weeks ago, this is the first time I have tried to use the USB since receiving it.
[08:55] <indus> ActionParsnip, arent they ruled by americans
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: tey may hav implemented it overnight. there must be a time before and after the implementation mustn't there
[08:55] <bricky> Gnea: I can remove it, its not built in to the motherboard which is good, im tihnking thats what Ill have to do
[08:55] <Gnea> bricky: I don't understand - pci cards aren't built-in, they're pci cards... therefore, they're removeable
[08:55] <TheExplorer> ActionParsnip, I am to understand that Ubuntu has made its way to the Android phone series (arm) rather recently.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> indus: no, they have their own democratic government
[08:56] <abusado> everytime I flush my iptables remotely my server freezes :(
[08:56] <bricky> Gnea: its a laptop I guess,
[08:56] <indus> ActionParsnip, yeah right
[08:56] <doyle> VanessaE: New dell computer. Was 10.04 the system that came with it, or did you install it?
[08:56] <Gnea> bricky: oh ok - sec
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> TheExplorer: that is offtopic here
 , opened
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: if you can use youtube there then there is some filtering on your web access some place
[08:57] <bricky> I will just pick up a laptop wifi card if things dont work out,
[08:57] <VanessaE> doyle: I bought this used actually.
[08:57] <VanessaE> I don't know what it originally shipped with, but I received it pre-loaded with Karmic.
[08:57] <cutiyar> ActionParsnip,yes right may be , thanks for ur help
[08:57] <VanessaE> (my Karmic CD gives the same results as Lucid)
[08:57] <doyle> VanessaE: in a termainl run 'tail -f /var/log/messages' (without quots), then insert a usb device
[08:57] <indus> i dont think this channel provides advice on how to circumvent gov blockages
[08:57] <AAA> VanessaE  yes, what doyle just said
[08:57] <Gnea> bricky: what driver are you using?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar: np man
[08:58] <bricky> Gnea: I dont even know anymore that's the problem lolz
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> indus: its just to test
[08:58] <doyle> VanessaE: onc eyou have some stuff in your screen, do a pastebin for us
[08:58] <VanessaE> AAA, doyle:  zip, zilch, and a whole lotta nada.  No reaction.
[08:58] <indus> ActionParsnip, ok but a dicey situation none the less
[08:58] <doyle> ah