[06:53] <fnordahl> Anyone have a moment for https://launchpadlibrarian.net/613956147/ovn_20.03.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_source.changes ?
[07:12] <seb128> could some review the glib2.0 sync in the kinetic queue and the gnome-shell upload there, desktop want those fixes in the release
[07:12] <seb128> especially glib since it triggers quite some autopkgtests and can take time to migrate so having it accepted earlier rather than later would be better
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ark (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dolphin (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: falkon (kinetic-proposed/universe) [22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cantor (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: filelight (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: elisa-player (kinetic-proposed/universe) [22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gwenview (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdeconnect (kinetic-proposed/universe) [22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kio-extras (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: konsole (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libkeduvocdocument (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: umbrello (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kate (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kjumpingcube (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: picmi (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kdenlive (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu3 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kwalletmanager (kinetic-proposed/universe) [4:22.08.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:22] <RikMills> ubuntu-release: ^^ 17 cherry picked bugfix updates from KDE gear 22.08.2 released today (out of the 200+ tars!)
[07:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-unicodedata2 [source] (kinetic-proposed) [14.0.0+ds2-1ubuntu1]
[07:32] <sil2100> hmmm, I'll take a look in a bit
[07:34] <sil2100> Do you have the 22.08.2 changes doc somewhere handy?
[07:35] <RikMills> sil2100: the final isn't up yet, as the announcement isn't up this early. but this is accurate: https://phabricator.kde.org/P712
[07:37] <RikMills> I haven't done the KDE PIM ones, as that stack (55 sources) has to be build as one as the internal build deps in the tars gets bumped each minor release
[07:38] <RikMills> instread I might take some patches to fix high impact bugs
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-dbusmock (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.28.4-1 => 0.28.6-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ark [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dolphin [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted falkon [source] (kinetic-proposed) [22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gwenview [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdeconnect [source] (kinetic-proposed) [22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kio-extras [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted konsole [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libkeduvocdocument [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-dbusmock [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [0.28.6-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cantor [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted filelight [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdenlive [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kwalletmanager [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted umbrello [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted elisa-player [source] (kinetic-proposed) [22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kjumpingcube [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kate [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted picmi [source] (kinetic-proposed) [4:22.08.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted glib2.0 [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [2.74.0-3]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2022e-0ubuntu1]
[07:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: alsa-ucm-conf (jammy-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 => <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2] (core)
[07:59] <RikMills> thank you!
[07:59] <ricotz> hello release-team, please accept thunderbird 102.3.3 in kinetic/unapproved :)
[08:01] <ricotz> it is a bug-fix - release https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-esr102/shortlog
[08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected alsa-ucm-conf [source] (jammy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2]
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: alsa-ucm-conf (kinetic-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 => <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2] (core)
[08:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: alsa-ucm-conf (jammy-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 => <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1.1] (core)
[08:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted alsa-ucm-conf [source] (kinetic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2]
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted alsa-ucm-conf [source] (jammy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1.1]
[08:20] <klebers> sil2100, as xnox mentioned, we need to re-spin all kernels to fix a critical apparmor bug affecting snaps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1991691
[08:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1991691 in linux (Ubuntu) "cannot change mount namespace" [Critical, Confirmed]
[08:20] <klebers> and we are also fixing a critical bug with i915 preventing some users to boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1991704
[08:20] <sil2100> klebers: please go ahead! The sooner the better ;)
[08:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1991704 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kinetic kernels 5.19.0-18/19-generic won't boot on Intel 11th/12th gen" [Critical, Fix Committed]
[08:21] <klebers> sil2100, the generic kernel is already building, the derivatives will follow shortly :)
[08:24] <sil2100> Do we have an ETA on when those would be in -proposed and how long it takes to migrate those?
[08:32] <klebers> sil2100, the generic kernel will likely hit -proposed in a couple of hours. For the migration to release we'll need to have some test results and fight with britney :D
[08:32] <klebers> arighi, ^ any estimate on when the new kinetic re-spin could migrate?
[08:33] <sil2100> Please keep us informed! Was hoping we could have our first release candidate images on Friday (we usually do those on Mondays, but we were thinking about some weekend testing)
[08:33] <sil2100> However, if we miss that, Monday's also fine
[08:41] <seb128> sil2100, hey, could you review gnome-shell in the queue, the bug it fixes is considered rc for desktop
[08:42] <seb128> and freerdp fixes some CVEs so would be nice to get in
[08:43] <sil2100> o/
[08:43] <sil2100> ginggs: I'll take gnome-shell if you're not looking at it yet
[08:44] <ginggs> sil2100: ack
[08:46] <sil2100> seb128: ok, looking fine, just a curiosity question: patches/status-volume-Include-origin-in-device-names.patch seems to change the UI a bit, or is it non-user-visible?
[08:49] <seb128> sil2100, it does change the UI, but that UI didn't exist before this cycle and isn't in our documentation, see screenshots on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/5829
[08:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Issue 5829 in GNOME/gnome-shell "Input selection name is unusable when many microphones" [Closed]
[08:49] <seb128> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/uploads/154ebfc1b3015f4c5e0eab4437bdc8f6/Screenshot_from_2022-09-05_11-43-29.png
[08:49] <seb128> shows the issue
[08:49] <seb128> I think we want the change even if technically it is an UI change
[08:50] <seb128> sil2100, I'm fine doing a UIFe if you think that's needed
[08:50] <seb128> but I think we should consider as a bugfix rather than an UI change, it's not like anyone was relying on the device labels to be ambigious :)
[08:55] <sil2100> Ok ok!
[08:55] <sil2100> No, it's fine
[08:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell [source] (kinetic-proposed) [43.0-1ubuntu2]
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted freerdp2 [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2.8.1+dfsg1-0ubuntu1]
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-software [source] (kinetic-proposed) [43.0-1ubuntu1]
[09:00] <seb128> sil2100, thanks!
[09:02] <laney> I took a bit of a look at some of the other stuff while I was having breakfast, will accept things in a second :-)
[09:07] <seb128> laney! :)
[09:07] <laney> jbicha: what's up with gnome-packagekit? can't tell just from the sync why we need that sync, would need to level up my brain power to review it
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-session [source] (kinetic-proposed) [43.0-1ubuntu1]
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnote [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [43.0-1]
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libsoup2.4 [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [2.74.3-1]
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-terminal [source] (kinetic-proposed) [3.46.2-1ubuntu1]
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted thunderbird [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1:102.3.3+build1-0ubuntu1]
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gtksourceview5 [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [5.6.1-1]
[09:08] <laney> yo seb128
[09:08] <laney> ready for final freeze?
[09:08] <seb128> looks like it!
[09:09] <laney> beach time then
[09:13] <seb128> nothing like swimming in a cold see on a rainy day :p
[09:14] <seb128> sea
[09:22] <laney> we're off to portugal next week, that should be nice at least :>
[09:27] <seb128> nice!
[09:28] <seb128> we went there one week in april, near faro, and really enjoyed it :)
[09:43] <laney> yes, not too far from there!
[09:43] <laney> 'escape the grey'
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (kinetic-proposed/main) [2.57.1+22.10.1 => 2.57.4+22.10ubuntu1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[10:23] <mvo> hm, just noticed I did not build my snapd kinetic upload with -v<prev-version> I can reupload if that is critical
[10:29] <arighi> klebers, sil2100 for the main kernel I'm waiting for the boot tests to complete, then we should see it in proposed (probably in a couple of hours), the derivatives have been cranked this morning and they're all building right now, probably the build will finish tomorrow for them
[10:32] <ginggs> tjaalton: btw, spirv-llvm-translator-14 still FTBFS with new pkg-kde-tools, now looks like .symbols / LTO issue
[10:52] <tjaalton> ginggs: yes, I'll check with anbe
[11:07] <jbicha> laney: thanks for the reviews, the gnome-packagekit sync just splits gnome-package-updater to a separate binary package but it's not very important for us
[11:14] <laney> jbicha: right, shall we leave it for +1 then?
[11:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-session (kinetic-proposed/main) [43.0-1ubuntu1 => 43.0-1ubuntu2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[11:19] <jbicha> laney: that's fine
[11:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-packagekit [sync] (kinetic-proposed) [3.32.0-5]
[11:40] <xypron> ubuntu-archive please evaluate if LP #1992776 can be handled as feature freeze exception.
[11:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1992776 in u-boot (Ubuntu) "FFE: PolarFire Icicle Kit with HSS 2022.10 does not boot" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992776
[11:43] <seb128> xypron, you want ubuntu-release and nor archive, while archive team has the acl needed they don't have the mandate to review freeze exceptions
[11:44] <xypron> seb128: Why does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess mention ~ubuntu-archive?
[11:45] <seb128> xypron, the only section where I see archive team mentioned is the one for new packages
[11:45] <xypron> seb128: I have corrected the bug report.
[11:46] <xypron> thanks seb128
[11:48] <seb128> thanks
[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mysql-8.0 (kinetic-proposed/main) [8.0.31-0ubuntu1 => 8.0.31-0ubuntu2] (core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mesa (kinetic-proposed/main) [22.2.0-1ubuntu1 => 22.2.1-1ubuntu1] (core, i386-whitelist, xorg)
[12:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apport (kinetic-proposed/main) [2.23.1-0ubuntu2 => 2.23.1-0ubuntu3] (core, i386-whitelist)
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mysql-8.0 [source] (kinetic-proposed) [8.0.31-0ubuntu2]
[12:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-session [source] (kinetic-proposed) [43.0-1ubuntu2]
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apport [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2.23.1-0ubuntu3]
[13:12] <mdeslaur> can I sync a new package from debian? shouldn't impact anything: https://packages.debian.org/sid/tcpbench
[13:15] <jbicha> mdeslaur: I'm not Release Team, but yes, NEW packages are still accepted
[13:15] <mdeslaur> thanks jbicha
[13:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: tcpbench (kinetic-proposed/primary) [1.01-1]
[13:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libfprint (kinetic-proposed/main) [1:1.94.3+tod1-0ubuntu2 => 1:1.94.3+tod1-0ubuntu3] (ubuntu-desktop)
[14:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-menu (kinetic-proposed/universe) [0.61 => 0.62] (ubuntustudio)
[15:02] <arighi> sil2100, bdmurray, klebers new kinetic/linux kernel 5.19.0-21.21 is now in proposed, all the other derivatives and cloud kernels are either still building or in the boot testing phase, but main kernel is out
[15:10] <sil2100> arighi: thanks for the heads up. The sooner we get those moving the better o/
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2.57.4+22.10ubuntu1]
[16:51] <rs2009> bdmurray: should we update livecd-rootfs to preseed snaps again, as snapd has been updated to fix the preseed issue?
[16:56] <fnordahl> vorlon: for when you have a spare moment, I have added explanation for the proposed changes as requested on LP #1940043 for the ovn 20.03.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> Focal upload
[16:56] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1940043 in ovn (Ubuntu Focal) "Upgrade from OVN 20.03 to newer OVN version will cause data plane outage" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1940043
[17:09] <bdmurray> rs2009: There is already an MP for it and I'll merge / upload / accept it after snapd migrates
[17:10] <bdmurray> Well I might as merge and upload it now
[17:10] <bdmurray> s/as/as well/
[17:13] <rs2009> bdmurray: ah great
[17:44] <bdmurray> I've increased the number of amd64 autopkgtest runners to help with the queues
[17:49] <falcojr> sil2100: The cloud-init team has verified the 22.3 SRU. Test logs, rerun results, and bugs found during verification have been attached to the SRU bug. Requesting SRU to Bionic, Focal, and Jammy https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1987318
[17:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1987318 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "sru cloud-init (22.3 update) Bionic, Focal, Jammy" [Undecided, In Progress]
[17:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (kinetic-proposed/main) [2.788 => 2.789] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: u-boot (kinetic-proposed/main) [2022.07+dfsg-1ubuntu3 => 2022.07+dfsg-1ubuntu4] (core)
[19:21] <sil2100> bdmurray, ginggs: can one of you review the u-boot upload I sponsored? ^
[19:21] <sil2100> This will make us re-enable the polarfire again
[19:22] <bdmurray> sil2100: looking
[19:24] <bdmurray> sil2100: so will users need to update to the new HHS firmware version for this to work?
[19:25] <bdmurray> What happens if the board doesn't have HHS 2022.10?
[19:36] <sil2100> bdmurray: ...this I don't know, I think xypron would have to comment ^
[19:37] <sil2100> It is a new platform, so I think it's good to have this even in this case
[19:41] <bdmurray> Yes, but something may need release noting.
[19:43] <sil2100> +1
[19:43] <sil2100> Let's chase down xypron tomorrow
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (kinetic-proposed/main) [74ubuntu1 => 74ubuntu2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock [source] (kinetic-proposed) [74ubuntu2]
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2.789]
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libfprint [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1:1.94.3+tod1-0ubuntu3]
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-menu [source] (kinetic-proposed) [0.62]
[20:59] <bdmurray> well that explains why I couldn't accept livecd-rootfs
[21:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted u-boot [source] (kinetic-proposed) [2022.07+dfsg-1ubuntu4]
[21:40] <bdmurray> If anybody is working on the ubuntu-meta update for the firefox deb be advised I'm doing it now.
[21:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-meta (kinetic-proposed/main) [1.496 => 1.497] (core)
[21:55] <sil2100> o/
[21:55] <sil2100> Reviewing this one ^
[22:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1.497]
[23:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libfprint (kinetic-proposed/main) [1:1.94.3+tod1-0ubuntu2 => 1:1.94.5+tod1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[23:22] <bdmurray> retrying autopkgtest of ubuntu-image w/ livecd-rootfs for arm64
[23:59] <holman> @RAOF: The cloud-init team has verified the 22.3 SRU. Test logs, rerun results, and bugs found during verification have been attached to the SRU bug. Requesting SRU to Bionic, Focal, and Jammy  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1987318


[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:17] <rawcoder> hi, I'm using ubuntu 15.10 beta and getting an assertion error in pidgin. Can anyone help me?
[10:17] <rawcoder> hello?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <fhf> hi hay hello
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: ask your issue here mate
[14:37] <NeverWinter> hello. I boot ub 15.10 and I tryed to search someting on web using firefox, but ubuntu telled me I'm disconected. what to do ?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: check syslog or dmesg logs to see whats happening to your network card
[14:39] <NeverWinter> where can I check it ?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: /var/log/...
[14:40] <NeverWinter> I will when I will try again
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: check also sudo lshw -C network to see what driver loaded or not
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> and chipset of your card
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> NeverWinter: also write down wich grafix driver works on your gtx 970 now
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> sudo lshw -C video
[14:42] <NeverWinter> ok ok
[21:57] <penguin42> hmm, X crash, lets try a restart
[22:07] <TJ-> At the rate I'm going this weekend I'm going to run out of launchpad bug numbers for 15.10!
[22:26] <penguin42> TJ-: Haha one of those weekends, you mean the ones where as you report a bug you end up reporting another bug and recurse
[22:27] <TJ-> Yeah... I'm about a week behind where I was Friday midday :)
[22:28] <TJ-> The bugs pop up faster than I can fix, or even report, them
[22:30] <TJ-> I'm also seeing some terrible installer display tearing on an Nvidia G73M, with the nouveau driver. I'd not have expected that level of regressions since 14.04
[22:30] <penguin42> I've had an Intel GPU hang which the kernel told me to report at freedesktop.org
[22:31] <TJ-> I've been saying for a few weeks now, Wily is going to be the worst buggy release in a few years
[22:31] <penguin42> is there any obvious reason why though?
[22:32] <TJ-> I'm seeing so many regressions. Today I had to re-fix a bug a first fixed back in 2009. Someone in Debian removed the fix from the shipped package
[22:32] <TJ-> Yeah, devs don't pay attention to the details, and packagers are more interested in volume (of packcages shipped) than in quality
[22:33] <TJ-> s/a bug a first/a bug I first/
[22:33] <penguin42> well yeh, but is there any reason Wily is particularly bad
[22:34] <TJ-> Upstream churn. Replacing old code with new, untested, incomplete.
[22:35] <penguin42> but that's always happened hasn't it?
[22:36] <TJ-> I found a Bluetooth regression in the kernel where it doesn't correctly manage a USB BT device. The last kernel I can find where it worked was v3.2. Then there's bluez v5 that has ripped out a lot of bluex v4 code and not replaced it. As a result I cannot pair any device that only supports PIN codes (so I cannot pair my Apple BT keyboards)
[22:36] <TJ-> Not to this extend
[22:36] <TJ-> systemd-cryptsetup doesn't/won't support keyscripts - thus breaking any encrypted system that requires script support for obtaining the key-file
[22:36] <penguin42> oh, I've never had bluetooth work for me, and looking at some of the code on android kernels make me think it's a disaster
[22:37] <TJ-> Bluetooth has always been great for me; I use keyboards, mice, phones and other specialist devices without problems with 14.04
[22:38] <TJ-> I've hit about 6 issues with the desktop installer this evening... starting to feel victimised :)
[22:38] <penguin42> right, it's your fault for using it :-)
[22:39]  * TJ- rolls eyes
[22:39] <TJ-> First time I've used it in ages, I usually use debootstrap. But I thought I'd best do some ISO QA teesting since we're in Beta
[22:40] <penguin42> yeh I've also not tried the installer - just done as update


[18:18] <GyrosGeier> hi
[18:19] <GyrosGeier> I have an automated build using Jenkins, where I use bzr merge to add a stack of patches from a separate branch
[18:20] <GyrosGeier> I have to back these out before updating the tree, or I get conflicts in a way that Jenkins notices
[18:20] <GyrosGeier> currently, I do
[18:20] <GyrosGeier> $ bzr clean-tree --quiet --ignored --unknown --detritus --force
[18:20] <GyrosGeier> $ bzr pull --overwrite ...
[18:20] <GyrosGeier> $ bzr revert
[18:21] <GyrosGeier> and then merge my branch again
[18:21] <GyrosGeier> is there a way to do the same without cleaning the tree?
[18:22] <GyrosGeier> in a way that still works if files are added or removed in the merged branch
[18:23] <GyrosGeier> new files from the merged branch get left behind otherwise, and the second time the branch is merged, the merge fails
[18:25] <GyrosGeier> oh wait
[18:25] <GyrosGeier> another clean-tree after the revert
[18:25] <GyrosGeier> to make it actually work
[18:27] <GyrosGeier> is there a "merge --overwrite" or similar?
[18:27] <GyrosGeier> i.e. if the merge adds a file, that takes precedence over workspace files
[18:29] <GyrosGeier> example log of a build: http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/windows-kicad-msvc-head/cpu=x86,label=windows/979/consoleText
[18:29] <GyrosGeier> the merged branch changed, as it was rebased, and a file changed in both sides


[21:12] <peanutb> Hey. Im wondering what the current status of the -rt and -realtime kernels is.. I don't seem to have access to https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/realtime


[00:34] <shauno> fun question.  anyone know how to force alsa cards to appear in a certain order?
[00:35] <shauno> (eg, one card is #0, the other is #1, I want to swap the two)
[00:36] <ali1234> probably with udev rules?
[00:38] <directhex> yeah, sounds tricksy
[00:39] <shauno> I'm not actually sure if udev is handling these (since I had to load the modules myself)
[00:44] <shauno> hm, not exactly what I was looking for but seems to be easier - use /etc/asound.conf to set the default device to #1
[01:02] <shauno> well that works nicely :)  retroarch using hdmi for audio, mpd using the 'hifiberry'
[03:08] <mapp> yo
[03:11] <diddledan> ello
[03:25] <mapp> hey pew got cutoff
[03:25] <mapp> stupid dsl went down
[04:04] <diddledan_> doobleydo
[04:14] <mapp> did you watch csi cyber
[04:14] <mapp> ah hes gone
[04:18] <mapp> unstable connection right there
[04:20] <diddledan> hmm
[04:20] <mapp> ah back
[04:20] <mapp> did you watch csi cyber ep2 diddledan
[04:20] <mapp> don think you were here when i askes earlier
[04:20] <mapp> i didnt care for it again:)
[04:20] <diddledan> smuxi doesn't like mono on the server with ms.net connecting to it
[04:20] <mapp> i think it'll get canned
[04:20] <diddledan> mapp: yeah I saw it, wasn't overly impressed
[04:21] <mapp> off to sleep - gotta be up early
[04:21] <mapp> cya :)
[04:21] <diddledan> tata
[04:53] <mapp> damnit
[04:53] <mapp> cant sleep
[04:53] <mapp> ARGH
[04:58] <diddledan> there's a new top-level domain due to start accepting registratinos at the end of the month - the .sucks tld
[05:16] <mapp> lol
[06:36] <mapp> still struggling to sleep
[06:36] <mapp> ever used sleep tapes diddledan?
[06:36] <diddledan> nope
[06:37] <mapp> just cant sleep..wondering if i should turn my tv eps off (playing on laptop) and tr the sounds on dreamingwithjeff.com
[07:33] <diddledan> dum diddy dum dum
[07:39] <mapp> perfect
[07:39] <mapp> anther hour past no closer to sleeping
[07:39] <mapp> this sucks
[08:10] <zmoylan-pi> you are getting sleepy...
[08:11] <diddledan> I am?
[08:11] <diddledan> hmm...
[08:11] <diddledan> *thud*
[08:11] <zmoylan-pi> ignore that diddledan that was for mapp
[08:12] <diddledan> zzzzz
[08:12] <zmoylan-pi> oops, too late
[08:12]  * zmoylan-pi doesn't waste opportunity and yoinks diddledan's wallet and has a shufty
[08:12] <diddledan> *bats*
[08:13] <diddledan> my driver's license still has a picture of me at 17
[08:14] <diddledan> I've changed a wee bit since then
[08:14] <zmoylan-pi> the peg leg and eye patch add character
[08:14] <diddledan> lol
[08:14] <zmoylan-pi> and allow you to officiate at fsm weddings
[08:15] <diddledan> fsm?
[08:15] <zmoylan-pi> flying spaghetti monster
[08:15] <diddledan> aah
[08:15] <zmoylan-pi> bless his noodly apendages
[08:15] <diddledan> pastafarian woulda worked better methinks :-p
[08:16] <diddledan> fsm sounds like some sort of adult playtime
[08:17] <diddledan> fsm - full surround mono - the audiophile's dream rig?
[08:17] <diddledan> finitely splendiferous meanderings?
[08:19] <diddledan> football's stupidest mascot?
[08:20] <diddledan> french seduction machine?
[08:38] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:38] <mapp> when do you sleep diddledan and you zmoylan-pi:P gonna get some nytol later for sur
[08:40] <zmoylan-pi> i have insomnia, i sleep 4 hours a day at the moment at fairly random times :-/
[09:03] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:03] <bashrc> morning
[09:06] <brobostigon> morning bashrc
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:11] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:23] <davmor2> czajkowski: awwwwwwwww don't you two just make people want to vomit with cuteness ;)  == very nice engagement snaps :)
[09:24] <czajkowski> heh thanks can only thank Tony for the images he makes us all look good!
[09:27] <foobarry> does irssi have a save command that saves all your connections and passwords into a config file?
[09:30] <diddledan> foobarry: /save ?
[09:30] <bashrc> you mean /save ?
[09:33] <foobarry> i never knew!
[09:33] <foobarry> thanks guys
[09:36] <diddledan> don't you love vulnerability disclosure timelines that basically say "f*** the vendor!"? latest for .net framework: made avilable publicly on 11/03/15. emailed microsoft on 12/03/15
[09:38] <diddledan> dammit, chrisccoulson just died again
[09:38] <diddledan> he's making a habit of mortal shenanigans
[09:38] <diddledan> 09:38 -!- chrisccoulson_ [~chr1s@ubuntu/member/chrisccoulson] has quit [Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died]
[09:39] <TwistedLucidity> And he is risen!
[09:39] <directhex> diddledan: funnily enough, my experience making vuln disclosures is "nobody cares"
[09:39] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: All hail our zombie chrisccoulson overlord!
[09:40]  * diddledan looks suspiciously at chrisccoulson
[09:40] <diddledan> I'm not sure he's entirely alive
[09:41] <foobarry> anyone got a stick?
[09:41] <bashrc> if you disclose it to microsoft they will only disclose it to nsa and then maybe some months later think about fixing it
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> bashrc: There's a scary side-effect of the Five-Eyes Spy-ring; all vulns decalred public *first* to reduce state abuse.
[09:42] <bashrc> yes indeed
[09:43] <chrisccoulson> What have I done?
[09:43] <diddledan> chrisccoulson: you died
[09:43] <diddledan> 09:38 -!- chrisccoulson_ [~chr1s@ubuntu/member/chrisccoulson] has quit [Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died]
[09:43] <directhex> chrisccoulson: eaten brains.
[09:43] <chrisccoulson> hah
[09:44] <diddledan> and now you're a zombie
[09:44] <foobarry> typical
[09:45] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjMiDZIY1bM
[09:49] <zmoylan-pi> what if it's the brains of a ukip supporter, does that count as brains? :-P
[09:50] <foobarry> somebody told me there's  ageneral election soon
[09:51] <foobarry> when was the last one? 4yrs already?
[09:51]  * zmoylan-pi demands an admiral election for parity
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> more appropriate when it rains
[09:56] <NET||abuse> hi internet.. glorious monday isn't it.
[09:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Freedom of Information Day! :-D
[09:59] <zmoylan-pi> i can't tell you how it's going :-)
[10:01]  * popey hides his information from JamesTait
[10:02] <NET||abuse> so i've installed Mate on my 14.10 laptop alongside normal unity, plus compiz, cuz i'm a child.... and now i get odd gtk style notification popoups in the top left corner instead of unity notifications... anyone know how i can get that fixed?
[10:03] <NET||abuse> back under unity i get the gtk popups that is.. sorry if that wasn't explicitly clear
[10:03]  * JamesTait just stalks popey on G+ instead.
[10:04] <foobarry> and looks on his webcam
[10:04]  * foobarry does a CSI on the reflection in the glass of the shed window
[10:05] <NET||abuse> haha, i've been thinking for the sake of hilarity to watch the csi cyber episodes that are out
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> do they write an app in visual basic to scan all the the ips??
[10:26] <zertyui> hi there
[10:26] <zertyui> basic question
[10:27] <zertyui> i would like to show only the domain name from this output
[10:27] <zertyui> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10608949/
[10:28] <zertyui> when i do mailq i got this output
[10:30] <zertyui> anyone there ?
[10:32]  * zmoylan-pi knocks once for yes
[10:33]  * popey knocks twice for no
[10:47] <TwistedLucidity> Ouch. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/16/auth_bypass/
[10:48] <moreati> zertyui: which domain(s)? business.telecomitalia.it? dffee.com?mail.rdsnet.ro.?
[10:50] <intrbiz> zertyui: you could use sed or awk to do that
[10:52] <intrbiz> zertyui: or would be easy enough in perl
[10:54] <intrbiz> zmoylan-pi: mailq | perl -e 'while (<>) { my ($d) = $_ =~ /<[^@]+@([^>]+)>/ ; print $d . "\n" if $d; }'
[10:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: here is some free information ← I mean that's it all the information you're getting :P
[11:02] <intrbiz> oops tab complete **up
[11:03] <intrbiz> zertyui: mailq | perl -e 'while (<>) { my ($d) = $_ =~ /<[^@]+@([^>]+)>/ ; print $d . "\n" if $d; }'
[11:04] <zertyui> perfect it 's working
[11:04] <zertyui> now i woudl like the output of the command to be insert to access file /etc/access
[11:07] <intrbiz> zertyui: what are you trying to do?
[11:18] <zertyui> trying to REJECT
[11:18] <zertyui> something like : youwontbelieveitsreal.in.net    REJECT
[11:19] <zertyui> output of that command to insert on file /etc/access with adding the flag REJECT
[11:33] <moreati> zertyui: at a guess mailq | perl -e 'while (<>) { my ($d) = $_ =~ /<[^@]+@([^>]+)>/ ; print $d . " REJECT\n" if $d; }'
[11:51] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:51] <bigcalm> intrbiz: is badminton on tonight, if so, what time?
[11:52] <intrbiz> bigcalm: hmm, good question
[11:52] <bigcalm> Oh dear :D
[11:52] <intrbiz> zertyui: have you looked at fail2ban?
[11:54] <intrbiz> bigcalm: I'll find out
[11:59] <bigcalm> Thanks man :)
[12:03] <davmor2> bigcalm: you'll notice though that intrbiz didn't say he'd tell you about it just that would find out ;)
[12:04] <bigcalm> davmor2: strangely I trust him to be sensible in this situation
[12:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: :D
[14:07] <foobarry> ARM.L shares doing well atm
[14:07] <foobarry> all time high i think
[14:21] <intrbiz> bigcalm: badminton is on tonight - 20:00 to 22:00
[14:21] <bigcalm> intrbiz: grand, thanks for checking
[14:59] <diddledan> fun thread here: https://virginmedia.response.lithium.com/portal/conversation/3656208 <-- therealrevk is the owner of Andrews&Arnold (aaisp.net)
[15:00] <diddledan> it's still going back and forth between them as we speak
[15:03] <diplo> Sky don't replace your Sky box or router after a year
[15:03] <diplo> I get what VM are saying, you don't equipment so they replace it if it becomes faulty..
[15:04] <diddledan> brb, reboob
[15:04] <DJones> diplo: Sky do replace faulty routers though
[15:04] <diplo> Not after a year, I was told I had to pay for it
[15:05] <diplo> And I wasn't allowed to use my own, so of course I used my own :)
[15:05] <DJones> I've never had to pay, Iwas charged a few £'s for postage, but that was all
[15:05] <diplo> Wanted £60 from me
[15:05] <diplo> For a god awful router
[15:07] <DJones> The original router was pretty weak, the last 2 I've had have been good, very strong signal & connection is stable
[15:08] <foobarry> g+ is quite broken for me today
[15:08] <diplo> Not overly configurable was my main gripe, just wanted to lock/open a few things
[15:08] <diplo> In what way foobarry, seems fine for me all day
[15:08] <foobarry> doesn't load
[15:08] <diplo> Very close to moving to cable to be honest now DJones
[15:09] <diplo> Oh right, mines been open all day and just click on new posts, not refreshed or anything since first thing :)
[15:09] <foobarry> photos.google.com aint loading atm
[15:11] <DJones> diplo: I don't have the option of cable, Sky have been by far the best ISP I've had in 12 years, fair enough a lot of people don't like them or have issues, but I've not had any complaints
[15:11] <awilkins> VM visited me and replaced my SuperHub for a SuperHub 2 just because "it's a bit old" (ok, the engineer gave the impression that he was being a bit hooky, but that might just be cynical manipulation of their customers a different way)
[15:11] <awilkins> And I've been a loyal customer for over a decade
[15:11] <awilkins> And had the internet service ever since it was a different company offering it
[15:12] <DJones> Just thinking, the sky dish had been on our house since before we moved in, when we had some changes done, they replaced the dish because it was getting old
[15:13] <foobarry> diplo: paused adblock..loads now
[15:14] <diplo> I was with VM from when they first started as Blueyonder, I left because I had a good deal with Sky, but it sucks now
[15:15] <diplo> too pricey and speeds suck
[15:15] <diplo> I'll probably still be with them for another 4 years knowing me though :D
[15:15] <diplo> I do miss having a good upload speed though!
[15:26] <awilkins> 6M upload!
[15:26] <awilkins> Whee
[15:27] <diddledan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31907768
[16:08] <mapp> nice
[16:08] <davmor2> awilkins: you don't want to whee on internet cable that wont help upload or download speeds ;)
[16:08] <diddledan> davmor2: WHEEE
[16:09] <Laney> widdledan
[16:09]  * diddledan widdles
[16:10] <awilkins> Ultimate WEEEE : https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/wiki/Firewalls-and-Port-Forwards
[16:10] <awilkins> oops
[16:10] <awilkins> http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee
[16:10] <awilkins> (mildly NSFW)
[16:10] <awilkins> (and noisy)
[16:11] <diddledan> double yoo tee eff
[16:12] <awilkins> A classic of the early days of t'internet
[16:12] <diddledan> lol
[16:12] <diddledan> I miss those flashymations
[16:12] <diddledan> the 90s was awesome
[16:16] <diplo> awilkins, Go away!
[16:17] <diddledan> :-o
[16:17] <diplo> Ref 6m Upload!
[16:25] <diplo> awilkins, is the uPNP bit new ?
[16:25] <awilkins> diplo, Dunno, not been using it for that long
[16:25] <awilkins> Or in anger
[16:25] <awilkins> Trying to get it promoted as a thing for our company to save money (rather than use a commercial file sharer)
[16:27] <diplo> I've debated the same thing, about to implement it at our Nottingham office to this machine :)
[16:31] <diplo> I'm debating writing a gui for it for UT as a project, may be a bit beyond me but I'll give it a go :)
[16:31] <awilkins> Can't be that bad
[16:31] <foobarry> unreal tournament?
[16:31] <diplo> Ubuntu Touch
[16:31] <awilkins> Nick the sources for the Windows version of the Ubuntu One thing
[16:31] <awilkins> Ah
[16:31] <awilkins> Ok, not the Ubuntu One thing
[16:31] <awilkins> There's an Android client
[16:32] <awilkins> A bit all or nothing though
[16:32] <diplo> Yeah I use that already, going to look at the code once this machine is reinstalled
[16:32] <diplo> popey has run the binary on his Nexus I believe
[16:32] <diplo> So 'it works' sorta :)
[16:32] <awilkins> Would prefer something like the Dropbox android client that syncs manifests and lets you choose which files you actually want
[16:33] <popey> hmm?
[16:33] <awilkins> The base install is very portable
[16:33] <diplo> That's what a lot of people are asking for as an improvement
[16:33] <diplo> syncthing popey ? I read on the forums I think ?
[16:33] <popey> ya
[16:33] <popey> not recently
[16:33] <bashrc> o w n c l o u d
[16:33] <diplo> heh, well I wanted to write something and this is a good project as any, also going to try something to work with owncloud too
[16:38] <diddledan> ignore that it's a microsoft twit: https://twitter.com/TechNetUK/status/577507119504728064/photo/1
[16:41] <Azelphur> somebody is talking about ownCloud?
[16:41]  * Azelphur arrives
[16:42] <Azelphur> also does anyone know a good, somewhat cheap projector? :P
[16:43] <diplo> Never use projectors anymore, and the ones I bought were never cheap :/
[16:44] <Azelphur> diplo: are they really that bad?
[16:45] <bashrc> I've got one. It was cheap and the resolution is low, but it's ok for youtube
[16:45] <Azelphur> I wanted to put Kodi (XBMC) on it
[16:47] <diplo> Defo want a decent one for that
[16:48] <diplo> Cheap is just pointless for films imo
[16:48] <Azelphur> I see
[16:48] <diplo> I know a few people who run projectors for their media centres, they spend £600+ on theirs
[16:48] <Azelphur> ouch
[16:49] <diplo> Right, got to go.. kids swimming lessons :(
[23:17] <nickerSLAVEgg> hi, anyone online who can halp me pls?
[23:19] <nickerSLAVEgg> pls i wnat to ask a serious question for a uk worker pls
[23:19] <nickerSLAVEgg> i wnat to give in my resignation tomorrow so somebody may help
[23:21] <Azelphur> nickerSLAVEgg: doesn't sound like a Ubuntu question, a better place to go to ask generic UK questions might be http://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK
[23:22] <nickerSLAVEgg> thanks Azelphur, I wonder if they have an irc channel.... I need a response now unfortunately
[23:22] <Azelphur> nickerSLAVEgg: /r/unitedkingdom has one at irc.snoonet.org #uk
[23:23] <Azelphur> I can't be of any use since I've never resigned from a job before (nor do I know the procedures)
[23:39] <daftykins> advising reddit, nasty!
[23:39] <daftykins> ;]
[23:41] <daftykins> Azelphur: you give the boss the finger then walk out in a huff
[23:42] <Azelphur> lol