[14:50] <anabain> akik, then the approach is quite similar to this: http://serverfault.com/questions/56588/unmount-a-nfs-mount-where-the-nfs-server-has-disappeared   (user conny's answer)
[14:50] <I-am-Groot> I i did install it a while ago
[14:50] <yahn> I-am-Groot, OK. Just run sensors in the terminal then
[14:51] <KK__> i am trying to load a .qcow2 image with ubuntu-vm-build
[14:51] <KK__> looking for the right command..any help/pointers would be appreciated
[14:51] <I-am-Groot> yahn, Her u go http://paste.ubuntu.com/14438256/
[14:52] <I-am-Groot> I have four cores but it only shows info for just 2
[14:52] <yahn> I-am-Groot, seems totally fine temp-wise. Can you fire up your chrome+whatsapp setup and monitor the temps then?
[14:52] <I-am-Groot> Sure!
[14:53] <akik> anabain: does that work with just setting the ip alias?
[14:53] <yahn> :)
[14:53] <JCT500THz> bazhang, here's what the readme said. http://paste.ubuntu.com/14438265/
[14:53] <Mathisen> why dont this work with just normal grep ?? " egrep -v "^$|^#|^;" /etc/samba/smb.conf "
[14:53] <huehue> yahn: out to lunch! bye
[14:53] <yahn> huehue, ciao!
[14:53] <anabain> anabain, in that case, is there any chance to put that in a script that is executed at the client by some indication given from the server immediately before it gets shut down?
[14:54] <akik> anabain: are you running a server or desktop image installation?
[14:54] <akik> anabain: because i think you could possibly have success in using /etc/network/interfaces for the network configuration
[14:55] <anabain> akik, I haven't tried it yet. The main point is automating the solution, besides it working, of course. Actually I'm sharing files among some desktop boxes in a home LAN. No server images in use. Kubuntu 15.10, to be exact.
[14:56] <I-am-Groot> yahn, Here is the data after running 3 chrome accounts with two runing whatsappweb http://paste.ubuntu.com/14438278/
[14:56] <JCT500THz> bazhang? Are you there?
[14:56] <akik> anabain: ok so you have a systemd system
[14:56] <anabain> yes
[14:56] <anabain> is it good?
[14:57] <akik> anabain: the /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh just went flying out of the window
[14:57] <yahn> I-am-Groot, still seems perfectly reasonable. I'd stick to the same advice as before. Overnight memtest + gnome disk extended self check just to help eliminate potential faulty hardware
[14:57] <bazhang> JCT500THz, yes, just a moment trying to check something for you
[14:57] <akik> anabain: you might find a similar service with "systemctl | grep umount"
[14:58] <I-am-Groot> okay yahn,
[14:58] <JCT500THz> bazhang, cool..
[14:58] <JCT500THz> ^_^
[14:58] <yahn> I-am-Groot, sorry I couldn't help you get it fixed tonight
[14:59] <I-am-Groot> You have already taught me how to go about testing ram in grub what abt "gnome disk extended self check"?
[14:59] <yahn> I-am-Groot, another suggestion would be to test drive 15.10 (for the newer kernel) in case there's been a regression that's affecting your hardware.
[14:59] <anabain> akik, that commands output  nothing.
[14:59] <I-am-Groot> yahn, You have helped me enough!
[14:59] <yahn> I-am-Groot, in Ubuntu there's a utility called Disks which is installed by default. You can run what's called an extended self-test to see if the hard drive is failing
[15:00] <I-am-Groot> OOkay yahn ,
[15:00] <yahn> I-am-Groot, it's really easy to do so don't stress :)
[15:00] <akik> anabain: sorry, can't help
[15:01] <JCT500THz> I really want to get the SPC player working, so I'd appreciate it if you could help me make it work!
[15:01] <I-am-Groot> Okay...One more question... What is this Regression you keep talking about?
[15:02] <yahn> I-am-Groot, as things get updated in the kernel and new versions are released, sometimes new bugs are introduced that can mess things up
[15:02] <home> Hi!How can I run the windows software on the Ubuntu？
[15:02] <akik> anabain: configuring cifs mounts with systemd was pain enough
[15:03] <yahn> home, you need to use something called Wine. Details here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[15:03] <I-am-Groot> Ookay...I barely update my ubuntu.The last time i updated was when i had a similar problem like this but then it was a kernel panic and updating my installation seemed to fix it
[15:03] <anabain> akik, thank you very much
[15:03] <home> Thany you very much!yahn
[15:03] <bazhang> JCT500THz, vlc can play those, you realize
[15:03] <I-am-Groot> Turned out it was a bug in that version of kernel
[15:04] <JCT500THz> bazhang, I know... But I want a separate player, and it has much better features.
[15:06] <yahn> I-am-Groot, I always update my system as the updates roll in. LTS releases of Ubuntu are generally pretty rock solid but there's always a few bugs that will slip through
[15:06] <yahn> just the nature of software development
[15:06] <I-am-Groot> Yea..thats true
[15:06] <I-am-Groot> I usually dont update my system as a result of my almost full HDD
[15:06] <JCT500THz> I'll try figuring it out by myself and if I still can't get it right, I'll come back.
[15:08] <I-am-Groot> Anyway, Thanks for the help yahn, I really appreciate it. Will report the results after running the HDD and RAM tests
[15:09] <aq2> is all this in 14.04 repos? http://dpaste.com/3DZ0A76
[15:09] <yahn> I-am-Groot, no problem and good luck!
[15:09] <I-am-Groot> Thanks
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> aq2  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:10] <aq2> why do you need that?
[15:10] <k1l> aq2: thats mintmenu? better ask the mint guys
[15:10] <bazhang> !info mintmenu
[15:10] <aq2> k1l: yes it is :D i want to know if all that is in ubuntu repos so i came here.
[15:10] <aq2> i'm planning on downloading the .deb with apt-get download
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> aq2  what brings you here, what are you doing
[15:11] <yahn> aq2, why not try it and find out?
[15:11] <aq2> i want to know how easy it is nor is not to install that on ubuntu before i try ubuntu.
[15:11] <k1l> aq2: you can search the repos here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:11] <bazhang> the bot says no
[15:11] <aq2> the menu is not there but i want to know if its dependencies are there.
[15:12] <k1l> aq2: you will need to look up every depency yourself then
[15:12] <aq2> i dont think so
[15:12] <aq2> mint also has the 14.04 repo
[15:12] <Pici> aq2: so you want us to look them up for you?
[15:12] <aq2> so all i need is some way to check what repo a package comes from.
[15:12] <aq2> yes
[15:12] <aq2> you have ubuntu i dont
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> aq2  stay polite
[15:13] <k1l> aq2: you can look at the website i just gave you
[15:13] <aq2> sorry MonkeyDust i dont know what i did wrong but i'll try :)
[15:13] <k1l> aq2: if you dont want to do that work why should we do that work for you when we dont want mintmenue at all?
[15:13] <aq2> k1l: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ what category should i select?
[15:13] <k1l> aq2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  use the search there
[15:13] <aq2> no of course you dont need to install mintMenu :)
[15:13] <stevenm> hey what steps would I take to enable LUKS *after* having installed ubuntu (and ubuntu was installed a single gpt partition - well except for the efi/swap partitions)
[15:14] <aq2> right i needed to scroll down :D
[15:14] <aq2> but i don't want to search through them all manually
[15:14] <k1l> aq2: but why should we do that work for you?
[15:14] <aq2> i think i'll ask the mint channel because this is not as ubuntu-specific as i thought it is.
[15:14] <aq2> i just need a command to check what repo a package comes from.
[15:15] <aq2> then i could run that to all those packages.
[15:15] <aq2> automatedly
[15:15] <aq2> i think i found something http://askubuntu.com/questions/8560/how-do-i-find-out-which-repository-a-package-comes-from
[15:16] <k1l> apt-cache policy will tell you
[15:16] <aq2> thanks :)
[15:16] <chitake> hello
[15:16] <aq2> that works great now i can write a script to check them all :)
[15:17] <aq2> thank you
[15:17] <yahn> aq2, i'll bite the bullet and try to install mintmenu for you on my 14.04 install
[15:17] <aq2> hehe :D
[15:17] <yahn> and see if the dependencies are met
[15:17] <aq2> i think you need mate for that
[15:17] <aq2> or cinnamon
[15:17] <aq2> its not made for unity
[15:17] <yahn> we're about to find out
[15:18] <JohK> Has someone an idea why I’m getting a black screen after login with a fresh install?
[15:18] <k1l> ubuntu ships mate and cinnamon.
[15:18] <chitake> try noland for that it s great
[15:18] <aq2> k1l: even 14.04?
[15:18] <aq2> i thought we need a ppa for that.
[15:18] <k1l> aq2: 14.04 ships mate-desktop
[15:18] <aq2> yahn: i can send the mintMenu deb for you, do you want 32-bit or 64-bit?
[15:18] <JohK> on 15.10
[15:19] <aq2> k1l: nice :)
[15:19] <yahn> aq2, I've already got it and it fails to install
[15:19] <k1l> cinnamon was remived from ubuntu and debian at that time because the code was in really bad shape
[15:19] <aq2> yahn: can you post the error message to dpaste?
[15:19] <mika_> more people use linux than win vista!!!!!!!!!!   we win!
[15:19] <yahn> aq2, http://dpaste.com/2HK4NA9
[15:20] <yahn> trusty 64bit install
[15:20] <JohK> anyone?
[15:20] <aq2> oh well
[15:20] <aq2> we need mint.common
[15:20] <aq2> mint-common
[15:20] <yahn> aq2 there is a PPA that might work for you
[15:20] <aq2> other than that looks ok.
[15:20] <yahn> aq2, http://www.infoworld.com/article/2697444/install-mintmenu-5-5-2-in-ubuntu-14-04.html
[15:20] <aq2> yahn: my aim is to do this without one.
[15:20] <yahn> aq2, ah ok
[15:21] <mika_> mint has it's own irc channel. just not on freenode.
[15:21] <yahn> JohK, what's your hardware?
[15:21] <aq2> but no problem, i think i can download the mint-common as a deb too :D
[15:21] <aq2> mika_: yes, im on there too.
[15:21] <JohK> yahn old, asus a600 laptop with nvidia graphics
[15:21] <k1l> aq2: since mint menu is related to mint you should ask them what you need to modify to get it running on ubuntu. its their code.
[15:21] <JohK> yahn: a6000
[15:21] <aq2> k1l: thats true, i'll probably go there
[15:21] <JohK> yahn: but graphics an x seems to work fine, lightdm runs and shows the login screen
[15:21] <yahn> JohK, and then it goes black after you attempt to login?
[15:22] <JohK> yahn: yes
[15:22] <yahn> JohK, one moment, I need a beverage
[15:22] <aq2> Ok an ubuntu-specific question
[15:23] <JohK> yahn: happens for the guestaccount as well as for an existing account
[15:23] <aq2> what i don't like in mint is that it comes with too much software that i dont use so i'm planning on installing from ubuntu server
[15:23] <JCT500THz> I'm back...
[15:23] <aq2> is it difficult to get a login manager working with mate on ubuntu server? any tutorials someone can recommend?
[15:24] <yahn> JohK, doesn't the A6000 come with ATI graphics? or am I mistaken
[15:24] <JCT500THz> bazhang, if I pasted the makefile to paste.ubuntu.com, would it help?
[15:24] <k1l> aq2: install the mate-desktop and make sure it installs lightdm too
[15:24] <aq2> k1l: so mate-desktop and lightdm... do i need to configure them?
[15:24] <aq2> will i have a useless guest account?
[15:24] <aq2> configure as change settings
[15:24] <yahn> JohK, mind giving me a more specific product code?
[15:24] <k1l> aq2: no. no configuration needed since the maintainer did that already.
[15:24] <JohK> yahn: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44M [GeForce Go 6200] (rev a1)
[15:25] <aq2> nice thanks :)
[15:25] <yahn> JohK, got it, thanks
[15:25] <mika_> yahn ~ are you using the nvidia drivers, or the open source drivers for that vid card?
[15:25] <mika_> er i mean johk
[15:25] <JohK> yahn: installed nvidia-304
[15:26] <JohK> mika_: ^
[15:26] <yahn> JohK, what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:26] <bazhang> JCT500THz, I suggested both vlc and smplayer, both which play those, that tar seems several years old
[15:26] <HackerII> nvidia 173 will prolly work best with that old card.
[15:26] <JohK> mika_: nouveau doesn’t work at all, I had to do a network install
[15:26] <mika_> oh, good. i've got heard anything good about nouveau.
[15:27] <JohK> maybe, but I think graphic is acutally working
[15:27] <JohK> I do see the nvidia logo on startup of lightdm
[15:27] <mile> Xubuntu 14.10. : only MONO sound ? Help!
[15:28] <JohK> and I do get the login screen of lightdm, the typical xserver error logs show nothing unusual and state that nvidia driver was loaded
[15:28] <JCT500THz> bazhang,  It doesn't have some of the core features  that I want that are in playspc-gtk...
[15:28] <yahn> JohK, can you try booting with 'nomodeset' added to your grub parameters please?
[15:28] <JohK> sure
[15:29] <bazhang> !14.10
[15:29] <Audiac> when you rm a file, can you get it back?
[15:29] <Audiac> or is it gone forever?
[15:29] <bazhang> mile upgrade to a supported version, that is eol
[15:29] <k1l> Audiac: its gon
[15:29] <k1l> *gone
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> mile  use 14.04 LTS or 15.10, then ask again
[15:30] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | mile read this
[15:30] <JohK> yahn: it’s booting…
[15:30] <JohK> 30s ...
[15:30] <Audiac> Hello
[15:30] <JCT500THz> I'll... I'll check back.
[15:31] <mangaka> .
[15:31] <JohK> yahn: lightdm came up, trying to login...
[15:31] <hambloaten> !upgrade
[15:32] <JohK> yahn: so as before I see the backgrop witht he ubuntu 15.10 text, and then 30s later I get to a black screen with a white mouse pointe (I cna move the mouse)
[15:32] <JohK> yahn: .xsession-errors has errors relatet to upstart
[15:33] <JohK> yahn: and OpenConnection
[15:33] <JohK> yahn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14438540/
[15:34] <yahn> JohK, testen mein deutsch ;)
[15:35] <JohK> sorry, I can switch to english if that helps… .)
[15:35] <JohK> yahn: I’m not sure if these errors are related to the issues at all
[15:35] <yahn> JohK, haha it's OK for the pastebin.
[15:36] <yahn> JohK, what is Verzeichnis in english?
[15:36] <JohK> directory
[15:37] <rexwin_> how to find what all php packages installed in my server?
[15:38] <JohK> rexwin_: dpkg --get-selections | grep php
[15:38] <k1l> rexwin_: "dpkg -l | grep php"  then the ones with "ii" at the start
[15:38] <Pod15> Is it possible to browse the contents of a vhd file in Ubuntu???
[15:38] <yahn> JohK, one moment
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> Pod15  vhd... you mean virtual harddisk?
[15:43] <Pod15> Yep, looking to browse rather than launch in virtual box etc
[15:44] <aq2> if nothing else works you can mount two disks to one vm.
[15:44] <JohK> wow
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> Pod15  VBoxManage comes to mnd
[15:44] <JohK> yahn: I just found that aptitude shows many many broken dependencies
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> mind*
[15:44] <JohK> yahn: up to now I was only using apt-get
[15:44] <yahn> JohK, are you able to pastebin for me?
[15:45] <Pod15> OK cheers monkeydust
[15:46] <yahn> JohK, and if possible run 'inxi -b' from the command line. You made need to install the package 'inxi' first
[15:46] <yahn> add the results of inxi -b to a pastebin if you can please
[15:49] <JohK> yahn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14438655/
[15:49] <JohK> yahn: can’t really copy the aptitude stuff
[15:49] <yahn> JohK, that's ok
[15:51] <yahn> JohK, I'm now wondering if something went wrong during the installation process
[15:51] <pagios> hello, i have a crackling sound on my ubuntu only windows works fine any idea?
[15:51] <JohK> yahn: dito
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: WOW
[15:52] <jatt> a crackling sound?
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: just right now the desktop came on
[15:52] <yahn> JohK, ?? what changed?
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: and it is gone again
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: I just let it sit on the black screen
[15:53] <JohK> yahn: suddenly the backdrop and the icons were on the screen, now they are gone again
[15:53] <Peyam> is it worth to upgrade to 15.10? from 14.04?
[15:53] <yahn> JohK, I'm assuming you have a hard drive activity LED on the laptop right? Flashing when the hard drive is active
[15:53] <k1l> Peyam: do you want to upgrade in 6months again to 16.04?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> Peyam  16.04 will soon be released, you can upgrade directly 14.04 > 16.04
[15:53] <yahn> JohK, could it be that due to the age of the laptop it's just taking an extremely long time to boot?
[15:53] <JohK> yahn: there is one, and it is flashing sporadically
[15:54] <Peyam> hahah you are right.. it comes one time per 2th year
[15:54] <JohK> yahn: it was on 14.04 before (I messed up and hat to reinstall), and it did not take this long to boot up
[15:54] <Peyam> yahn, wondering what's happening in linux development
[15:54] <JohK> yahn: also now it is back to the black screen
[15:54] <JohK> yahn: should I do apt-get upgrade ?
[15:54] <yahn> JohK, fair enough, and yes - it can't hurt
[15:55] <JohK> yahn: ah I did apt-get update again, now aptitude finds a solution to the dependecies...
[15:55] <yahn> Peyam, I like using LTS releases for the extra stability
[15:55] <cfhowlett> JohK, sudo apt full-upgrade might also help
[15:56] <Peyam> yahn, me too
[15:56] <yahn> cfhowlett, oh perhaps dist-upgrade?
[15:56] <yahn> or*
[15:56] <Peyam> looking for a good linux game. like CS?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> yahn, same outcome ... apt is replacing apt-get
[15:56] <JohK> wow this is the weirdest debian/ubuntu problems I had so far
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> !games | Peyam
[15:56] <yahn> cfhowlett, understood, thanks
[15:57] <MarcL> I need some good software to copress and reduce the dimension of the images too much heavy, I have tons of pictures that I still wanna hold but they take too much space in the HD
[15:57] <ishaan> hi
[15:57] <ishaan> http://pastebin.com/A7ceSb5j
[15:57] <MarcL> please advise
[15:57] <yahn> Peyam, have a look on Steam
[15:57] <ishaan> i have a problem with my sd card
[15:57] <Peyam> yahn, no I Dont use steam.
[15:57] <ishaan> it is not being detected as a sd card
[15:58] <yahn> Peyam, then you're going to be limited with your selection, it has the biggest library of linux games. Check gamingonlinux.com for reviews and suggestions
[15:58] <JohK> yahn: if this was the reason for the black screen, somehow lukcily all the packages necessary to get to the login screen must have been there…
[15:58] <yahn> JohK, is apt still processing?
[15:59] <JohK> yahn: downloading
[15:59] <yahn> JohK, no worries, keep me updated when it completes & try the reboot
[16:00] <JohK> yahn: download ist kind of slow right now, will take about 5-10 min
[16:00] <yahn> JohK, out of interest did you have to use a netinstall for 14.04 too? Or did nouveau work?
[16:00] <yahn> JohK, macht nichts :)
[16:00] <JohK> yahn: I did a netinstall for 15.10 after nouveau didn’t work with the 14.04 live cd (it showe5 columns of alt
[16:01] <ishaan> why is it that my sd card is not being detected as /dev/sdb
[16:01] <JohK> dit showed 5 columns of alternating black/white stripes
[16:01] <yahn> JohK, so how did you get 14.04 installed originally?
[16:01] <MarcL> I need some good software to copress and reduce the dimension of the images too much heavy, I have tons of pictures that I still wanna hold but they take too much space in the HD. please advise me...
[16:01] <yahn> JohK, yeah that sounds like nouveau unfortunately :(
[16:01] <JohK> yahn: though updates
[16:02] <zergut> Hello
[16:02] <JohK> yahn: I think the version I originally installed was 8.04 or so
[16:02] <zergut> what wrong could be with GRUB loader?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> !zip | MarcL start here
[16:02] <zergut> it cant see Win8.1 and in the same time Ubuntu
[16:02] <JohK> yahn: back when I first convinced my SO that windows wasn’t an option :)
[16:02] <yahn> JohK, good man :)
[16:02] <zergut> actually i have 2 partitions of FreeDOS as well
[16:03] <zergut> so i need to use another loader?
[16:03] <yahn> MarcL, you could try a program called 'Trimage' which you can install through the software center
[16:04] <JohK> yahn: these days I’m actually more inclined to using macs… :/
[16:04] <MarcL> MonkeyDust, yahn   thanks guys I will try
[16:04] <yahn> MarcL, also, GIMP can compress images too. Guide here: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-jpeg.html
[16:05] <JohK> yahn: still have linux machines, but my daily driver just has got to work (+ some software requirements… but yeah)
[16:05] <yahn> JohK, yeah macs are nice. I always miss Ubuntu when I use them though
[16:06] <debug0x1> https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/39166/
[16:06] <JohK> yahn: I like that my base system just works, while still being able to use cli interfaces and OSS through ports
[16:06] <debug0x1> This is a little scary.
[16:07] <cfhowlett> MarcL, you are talking about batch processing of those images??
[16:07] <JohK> yahn it is unpacking
[16:07] <k1l> debug0x1: see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-8660.html
[16:07] <JohK> yahn: mostly libs
[16:08] <MarcL> cfhowlett, my personal images
[16:08] <JohK> yahn: btw the desktop appeared and dissappeared once more...
[16:09] <cfhowlett> MarcL, right and you want to resize many of them?
[16:09] <yahn> JohK, could this be a nvidia bug I wonder
[16:09] <MarcL> cfhowlett, correct
[16:09] <ishaan> why is my sd card being detected as mmcblk0
[16:09] <JohK> yahn: looks more like a saturation of some kind
[16:09] <ishaan> and not as /dev/sdb
[16:09] <ishaan> and how can i format it
[16:09] <cfhowlett> MarcL, then imagemagick is your best bet.  command line tool.  for example:  https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/reducing-image-sizes-in-ubuntu-studio-4175449639/
[16:10] <k1l> ishaan: that is common for removable sd cards
[16:10] <JohK> yahn: like an error that continously pops up, that doesn’t leave enough time to actually draw the desktop
[16:10] <yahn> JohK, aah I see what you mean
[16:10] <JohK> (though the load is normal)
[16:10] <MarcL> cfhowlett, is it better than trimage?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> MarcL, never used/heard of trimage
[16:11] <MarcL> cfhowlett, ok
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> !info trimage
[16:11] <JohK> MarcL: you can find tons of examples for imagemagick
[16:12] <yahn> JohK, hey I forgot to ask. Did you ever attempt to boot in recovery mode?
[16:12] <cfhowlett> MarcL, you can reduce the size, compression or both and that will reduce the memory demands
[16:12] <JohK> yahn: I tried, same thing
[16:12] <yahn> hmm
[16:12] <JohK> yahn: actually not quite sure, I think I tried recovery while lightdm was still broken
[16:13] <yahn> JohK, lots of variables for failure here
[16:13] <ishaan> ?
[16:13] <JohK> yahn: easy to vary too many variables at ones
[16:13] <JohK> once
[16:14] <JohK> man, old hardware is slow…
[16:14] <MarcL> cfhowlett, are you talking about trimage or imagemagik?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> MarcL, imagemagick.  as I said, no idea about trimage
[16:14] <jarnos> As for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack can you install lowlatency MULTIARCH DESKTOP for Trusty so that the kernel is from Wily and the graphics is from Vivid? I tried simulating installation by "apt-get -s" and linux-generic-lts-vivid is shown to be installed even if replaces it by linux-lowlatency-lts-wily.
[16:15] <MarcL> cfhowlett, ok
[16:15] <k1l> ishaan: see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition-Mass-Storage-Definitions-Naming-HOWTO/x99.html
[16:15] <yahn> cfhowlett, MarcL I totally forgot about imagemagick
[16:15] <ishaan> k1l, ok
[16:15] <jarnos> I mean even if I have replaced linux-generic-lts-vivid by linux-lowlatency-lts-wily in the apt-get command.
[16:16] <MarcL> yahn, thanks
[16:16] <JohK> yahn: mainly fonts and libs
[16:16] <yahn> JohK, hmm mostly unrelated then
[16:16] <JohK> the pre-SSD age sucked
[16:16] <yahn> JohK, still processing?
[16:17] <JohK> yahn: yup :)
[16:18] <yahn> JohK, sorry I forgot if I already asked this. Did nouveau fail on Ubuntu 15.10 in the same way as it did on 14.04? the black and white cubes
[16:19] <JohK> yahn: I did not test the 15.10 live cd
[16:19] <JohK> yahn: didn’t want to waste another CD
[16:19] <yahn> JohK, ah ok
[16:19] <JohK> yahn: the bios offers booting from removable media, but then, just doesn’t...
[16:19] <yahn> JohK, seems like a cleaner way to attempt the installation rather than the netinstall method
[16:21] <JohK> yahn: hmm, pretty improbably that a nouveau bug concerning 10 year old hardware just got fixed beween 14.04 - to 15.10.  I didn’t like the chances of that :)
[16:21] <yahn> jarnos, I'd be very very careful mixing packages from the enablement stack.
[16:21] <yahn> JohK, yeah fair enough.
[16:22] <JohK> yahn: still setting up
[16:22] <AnimalFarmPig> Folks who are running Ubuntu in organizations that use Outlook/Exchange, what are you using to replace Outlook? I need to be able to send/accept meeting invites, see and update shared calendars, and address book functionality would be nice
[16:23] <JohK> yahn: theres two things I hate in IT, waiting for PCs is one of them...
[16:23] <jarnos> yahn, can I just install linux-lowlatency-lts-wily to my ubuntu studio 14.04 and omit the xorg stuff?
[16:23] <cfhowlett> AnimalFarmPig, thunderbird just added a decent calendar - might be worth trying
[16:24] <AnimalFarmPig> I've been happy to use Thunderbird and Evolution in the past, but this is the first place I've worked that used meeting invites and shared calendars
[16:24] <AnimalFarmPig> cfhowlett: cool, I'll take a look
[16:24] <JohK> yahn: aptitude wants to install more package
[16:25] <JohK> yahn: apt-get dist-upgrade says everything is fine...
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> AnimalFarmPig  ig guess zimba is closest to Outlook ... it's not in the repos, tho ... https://www.zimbra.com/
[16:26] <yahn> jarnos, I've never tried installing individual packages and AFAIK it's highly recommended to install the whole stack
[16:26] <yahn> jarnos, so if you do, be prepared for breakage
[16:26] <AnimalFarmPig> Thanks, MonkeyDust. I'm taking a look. It's not so much that I'm in love with Outlook, just that in order to take days off, I'm supposed to update our shared calendar. Don't want to lose that ability :) Also, meetings and stuff
[16:26] <yahn> jarnos, is there any particular reason you don't want to install the extra stuff?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> AnimalFarmPig  or zarafa ... https://www.zarafa.com/
[16:27] <JohK> yahn, jarnos when mixing apt-pinning properly is vital
[16:27] <yahn> I've tried to avoid using apt-pinning as much as possible
[16:28] <huehue> yahn: stop black screen
[16:28] <yahn> huehue, what do you mean?
[16:28] <JohK> yahn: rebooted, still black screen after login
[16:28] <JohK> yahn: so more aptitude…
[16:28] <huehue> yahn: reboot work! Now start to use, black screen, new and old kernel
[16:28] <yahn> JohK, can you try xforcevesa as a grub argument?
[16:29] <yahn> JohK, if it still persists we can rule out the graphics side totally I think
[16:30] <yahn> huehue, so it worked once when you rebooted? Does it boot and work and then blackscreen?
[16:30] <JohK> yahn: aptitude wants to install 320MB of further packages… I’ll do that and then reboot
[16:30] <yahn> JohK, it never ends :P
[16:31] <jarnos> yahn, I would like to have the lowlatency kernel from Wily. But the rest of the pack is not available from Wily, but Vivid. And, if I install the rest of the pack, for some reason linux-generic-lts-vivid is included.
[16:32] <huehue> yahn: can not start X /etc/X11/X no exist
[16:32] <jarnos> yahn, that is according to apt-get -s
[16:33] <JohK> yahn: hmm mostly 32bit libs this time
[16:34] <jarnos> yahn, and also according to sudo apt-get. Why are generic packages included even if I have only lowlatency as an argument for apt-get?
[16:34] <yahn> jarnos, I don't know sorry
[16:34] <yahn> huehue, one moment
[16:34] <huehue> yahn:  i try  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and say xserver-xorg not instaled!
[16:35] <yahn> huehue, can you try to install xserver-xorg-lts-trusty again please?
[16:35] <nacc> jarnos: what do you mean, you tried to install, e.g. 'linux-image-lowlatency' or 'linux-lowlatency' from wily?
[16:36] <yahn> huehue, you installed the whole stack last time right? sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty
[16:37] <huehue> yahn: yes
[16:37] <JohK> yahn black screen
[16:37] <yahn> huehue, if you attempt to reinstall xserver-xorg-lts-trusty what happens?
[16:38] <huehue> yahn: all installed
[16:38] <anonymous_> hallo
[16:38] <JohK> yahn: I reboot once more and try xforcevesa
[16:38] <yahn> JohK, yeah please
[16:38] <yahn> huehue, strange. What graphics card does the machine have?
[16:38] <anonymous_> UBUNTU GNOME 15.10 IS DA BEST!!!
[16:38] <anonymous_> MATE!
[16:38] <huehue> yahn: core i3 gpu
[16:38] <ikonia> please stop
[16:39] <yahn> huehue, can you run the full sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty command again for me
[16:39] <yahn> huehue, sorry to repeat, just want to make sure
[16:39] <huehue> yahn: all installed!!!
[16:40] <huehue> yahn: work only tty  no X
[16:41] <yahn> huehue, can you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-trusty please
[16:41] <yahn> and reboot
[16:41] <JohK> yahn: same thing
[16:42] <huehue> yahn: done
[16:42] <yahn> JohK, darn
[16:42] <huehue> yahn: reboot?
[16:42] <yahn> huehue, yes please
[16:42] <yahn> JohK, might be worth sacrificing a CD
[16:42] <huehue> yahn: bro... Works :D
[16:43] <huehue> yahn: why stop?
[16:43] <JohK> yahn: why? I think we established that it isn’t the graphics?
[16:43] <Figaro`> hi!
[16:43] <psiklops> Hi
[16:43] <yahn> huehue, phew! There was a bug I found on launchpad that hasn't been fixed for 12.04
[16:44] <yahn> JohK, I agree. I'm thinking now something went wrong with the installation process. Shooting in the dark here now though
[16:44] <huehue> yahn: Muahuah
[16:44] <Figaro`> I would like to install libicu52
[16:44] <Figaro`> hi!
[16:44] <psiklops> I installed 5.04 and have a NVidia Corporation ION VGA Graphics card
[16:44] <Figaro`> I would like to install libicu52:i386
[16:44] <JohK> yahn: I think it’s compiz/unity or so
[16:44] <JohK> yahn: what other options do I have? gnome?
[16:45] <psiklops> my screen is kinda choppy
[16:45] <Figaro`> I just do not find it , how can I do ?
[16:45] <marianne_> hello, I'm running 14.04 LTS and need a compiler for C and C++ code... anyone know of one?
[16:45] <psiklops> how can i fix this ?
[16:45] <yahn> JohK, how about trying a different DE? I'd recommend something lightweight based on the age of your hardware
[16:45] <yahn> JohK, xfce, lxde
[16:45] <psiklops> Ubuntu 15.04 ^^^
[16:45] <JohK> yahn: never heard of lxde
[16:46] <Figaro`> I'm using ubuntu 15.10
[16:46] <yahn> JohK, the DE that's used for Lubuntu
[16:46] <yahn> very lightweight
[16:46] <huehue> yahn: I wating 16.04 LTS to upgrade more than 150 computers on my job! All ubuntu 12.04.5
[16:46] <huehue> :D
[16:46] <yahn> huehue, may I ask where you work?
[16:46] <huehue> yahn: education!
[16:47] <yahn> huehue, very nice! Good to see Ubuntu used in education :)
[16:47] <nacc> marianne_: gcc/g++?
[16:47] <huehue> yahn: brazil school! :-)
[16:47] <cfhowlett> huehue, beijing?
[16:47] <huehue> cfhowlett: Nope
[16:47] <yahn> JohK, if you're interested in trying lxde, the command to install it is sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[16:48] <cfhowlett> huehue, ah Brazil!  nice.
[16:48] <marianne_> nacc: not sure what you are asking? normally I work in perl or java, but this class requires c or c++
[16:48] <huehue> yahn: 19 school work ubuntu, more than 600 computers ubuntu
[16:48] <JohK> yahn: I did apt-get install lxde
[16:48] <huehue> yahn: reboot, halt, and no X problem!
[16:48] <cfhowlett> huehue, look into edubuntu
[16:48] <huehue> yahn: ;-)
[16:48] <yahn> JohK, should work. At least if it works we can see if the problem is related to the de/compiz
[16:49] <huehue> cfhowlett: much app doesnt have language pt-br
[16:49] <yahn> huehue, bom de se ouvir :)
[16:50] <nacc> marianne_: gcc and g++ are compilers for c and c++ respectively
[16:50] <huehue> cfhowlett: custom iso with some apps pt-br, maybe one day install edubuntu ;-)
[16:50] <huehue> cfhowlett: geogebra for example! :D
[16:50] <yahn> psiklops, can you run lshw -c video in the terminal and post the output to pastebin please?
[16:51] <marianne_> nacc: think I found it online, but thanks for clearing that up
[16:51] <pa> how does xdg-user-dirs-update  exactly work?
[16:51] <psiklops> yahn, ok.. one second please
[16:51] <yahn> JohK, keep me in the loop
[16:51] <LeviM> I have a 4k capable monitor from Dell (P2415Q) and I can't seem to get it to display at 4k. When using xrandr it simply says:  `xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed`
[16:52] <huehue> yahn: u know app geogebra?
[16:52] <LeviM> Using Ubuntu 15.10. Can someone point me in the right direction to start diagnosing specifics?
[16:52] <yahn> huehue, I know it's a graphing calculator but I don't know anything else about it
[16:53] <huehue> yahn: :-)
[16:53] <jarnos> yahn, now running Wily generic kernel on Trusty (that I used to run by lowlatency kernel).
[16:54] <psiklops> yahn, http://paste.debian.net/362395/
[16:54] <yahn> jarnos, good to hear that it's working but as I said before, be prepared for breakage
[16:54] <silidan> hi, im on a ubuntu 14.04 64 bit 4.2.0-22-generic with 8 Gig RAM, a gnuradio application seems to fail on a shmget() call. the error message indicates the size of the shmget() call to be gr::buffer::allocate_buffer: failed to allocate buffer of size 1179648 KB, any hints on what might be limiting here? ulimits and kernel.shmmax kernel.shmmall seem ok  to me. the corresponding source code can be found here: https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/
[16:54] <nacc> LeviM: what connector are you using to connect it?
[16:54] <jarnos> yahn, didn't install the graphics packages, though.
[16:54] <huehue> yahn: u know command to remove configs of apps no installed?
[16:54] <JohK> yahn: sure… still waiting
[16:54] <LeviM> nacc: It's a USB-C to DisplayPort.
[16:54] <yahn> huehue, I do not, sorry
[16:54] <LeviM> I've verified that the monitors work in this setup with another laptop also running 15.10.
[16:54] <ikonia> silidan: are you pulling gnuraidio from the ubuntu repo ?
[16:55] <LeviM> It's just not working on this other machine.
[16:55] <silidan> ikonia: no, used pybombs
[16:55] <ikonia> why are you not pulling it from the repo ?
[16:55] <silidan> ikonia: but last time i tested with the ubuntu one i had the same issue
[16:55] <LeviM> So it may be an issue with the adapter which isnt' needed on the other machine.
[16:55] <LeviM> Or it may be something else with driver/hardware.
[16:55] <nacc> LeviM: are you sure this machine can drive 4k?
[16:55] <yahn> psiklops, the reason it's choppy is because it's using the open source nouveau driver most likely. If you open up 'additional drivers' from the dash, does it give you any options to install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[16:55] <LeviM> nacc: Yes.
[16:55] <silidan> ikonia: gnuradio evolves quite fast
[16:55] <ikonia> silidan: why are you not pulling it from the ubuntu repos ?
[16:56] <ikonia> silidan: the ubuntu package is tested, so thats something we can work with
[16:56] <nacc> LeviM: different graphic cards between the two machines?
[16:56] <LeviM> Yes.
[16:56] <silidan> ikonia: need alot of gt stuff in it and this currently grows 3.7.2 has quite limited qt widgets in it
[16:56] <LeviM> The one that isn't working is an Intel i5-6200U.
[16:56] <JohK> LeviM: is your graphics card capable of 4k?
[16:56] <silidan> ikonia: no problem ill try it on the ubuntu version too
[16:56] <LeviM> JohK: Yes.
[16:57] <LeviM> (Or rather the associated integrated graphics with the i5-6200U)
[16:58] <twager>  HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-42-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Zorin "vivid" 10" ** CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 77.7% free ** Disk: Total: 523.7GiB, 69.7% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 4h 31m 38s **
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> twager: please no specs showoff here
[16:59] <psiklops> yahn, yes 340 and 304
[16:59] <ikonia> twager: ?
[16:59] <bazhang> use the zorin support channel for that twager
[16:59] <lampsBR> Hi, does anyone knows how can I permanently change grub2's prefix and root configs? grub-install and boot-repair aren't working for me =/
[16:59] <silidan> ikonia: i just tested on the ubuntu package, exact same error message
[17:00] <yahn> psiklops, excellent. Install 340, reboot and it shouldn't be choppy anymore :)
[17:00] <ikonia> silidan: that error appears quite a few times in a few threads on the gnuradio and shinysdr apps
[17:00] <psiklops> yahn, great!! Thanx ;-)
[17:00] <JohK> yahn: wow this thing has a onboard modem
[17:00] <ikonia> silidan: the system message suggests it can't allocate the ram, some of the comments on the threads seem to suggest its the app that can't manage it,
[17:00] <JohK> yahn: (just saw wvdial scroll past… )
[17:00] <yahn> JohK, it's been a looong time since I've seen one of those
[17:00] <ikonia> silidan: based on your machine I'd say that is a fair high level comment
[17:01] <JohK> yahn good ol’ times
[17:01] <psiklops> yahn, there are TWO  340.96  drivers ... the second is nvidia-340-updates
[17:01] <silidan> ikonia: i dont understand the term "fair high level comment" pls explain
[17:01] <ikonia> silidan: your machine clearly has anough ram, so the systme being unable to allocate it seems a red herring
[17:01] <yahn> psiklops, either one will be fine. One of the drivers listed might have (tested) next to it. That would be the one that I'd use if I were you
[17:02] <JohK> yahn: lightdm now looks differently
[17:02] <silidan> ikonia: herring is always red in tomato souce
[17:02] <psiklops> yahn, thanx again ;-)
[17:02] <yahn> JohK, in what way?
[17:02] <yahn> psiklops, no problem :)
[17:02] <ikonia> silidan: based on some of the other threads I'm reading people seem to suggest this is down to the app rather than the OS
[17:02] <JohK> yahn: blueish, maybe lubuntu default?
[17:02] <silidan> ikonia: ok now i understood you perfectly
[17:02] <silidan> ikonia: so i should go back to the gnuradio people
[17:03] <yahn> JohK, yeah that's the default lubuntu theme.
[17:03] <ikonia> silidan: some others suggest that you do have to manually up the limit
[17:03] <ikonia> silidan: what's your maxshm setting ?
[17:03] <silidan> ikonia: kernel.shmmax =<PHONE_NUMBER>3692774399 and kernel.shmall =<PHONE_NUMBER>3692774399
[17:03] <ikonia> sorry it's shmmax
[17:03] <JohK> yahn: it shows something!
[17:03] <yahn> JohK, excellent :)
[17:03] <JohK> yahn: also there is an error dialog
[17:03] <ikonia> silidan: so whats that, 1GB
[17:03] <ikonia> or am I reading that wrong
[17:04] <silidan> ikonia: slightly larger ;)
[17:04] <yahn> JohK, what does the error say?
[17:04] <JohK> yahn: something along “problem with a system application”
[17:04] <ikonia> silidan: how are you verying that setting is active
[17:04] <JohK> yahn: “do you want to report it” (it’s in german)
[17:04] <JohK> reaction is extremely slow
[17:04] <silidan> ikonia: sysctl kernel.shmmax returned it
[17:05] <ikonia> silidan: check it in proc
[17:05] <yahn> JohK, ah OK. Just a generic Ubuntu error notification. You can expand that error and see what it relates to
[17:05] <JohK> no expansion
[17:05] <silidan> ikonia: do you have the correct path?
[17:05] <yahn> hmm
[17:05] <yahn> JohK, so the system is sluggish?
[17:05] <ikonia> hang on
[17:05] <ikonia> /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[17:05] <JohK> yahn: no, it does not react
[17:06] <ikonia> it should match
[17:06] <ikonia> but it's worth checking
[17:06] <silidan> ikonia yep same valie
[17:06] <JohK> yahn: I would use “sluggish” only up to reaction times of maybe 10s… :)
[17:06] <yahn> JohK, desktop displayed but can't interact with anything?
[17:06] <ikonia> silidan: ok - so from a system point of view, you have enough shared memory set
[17:06] <ikonia> silidan: therefore I would suggest checking the application, as the other people in those threads suggest
[17:06] <JohK> yahn: I can interact but it is slow, as in a click takes >10s to get through
[17:06] <ikonia> silidan: from a pure OS point, you have enough ram
[17:07] <jake__> hi
[17:07] <JohK> compiz now has 99% cpu
[17:07] <ikonia> silidan: ahhh interesting, just found something
[17:07] <ikonia> silidan: what is your shmmni set to
[17:08] <silidan> 4096
[17:08] <ikonia> set it higher
[17:08] <silidan> ikonia: how high?
[17:08] <ikonia> set it to hang on, how much did you say you had for max
[17:08] <ikonia> let me work this out
[17:08] <ikonia> ok, I see it
[17:08] <JohK> yahn
[17:08] <silidan> ikonia: you mean so the number fits in 32bit?
[17:08] <ikonia> 32000
[17:08] <ikonia> set it to that
[17:09] <JohK> yahn: back to black screen now Xorg takes 99% load
[17:09] <ikonia> (thats a bit big, but it's the right multiplier)
[17:09] <silidan> ikonia: so instead of 4096 i should use 32000 ?
[17:09] <ikonia> yes
[17:09] <ikonia> we can tone it down a bit later if this works
[17:09] <yahn> JohK, so it was running extremely slowly, compiz at 99% cpu and then suddenly blackscreens?
[17:09] <silidan> ikonia: doesnt that have ot be power of 2?
[17:10] <ikonia> basically you've got too small a handle set, so making "bigger" chunks should allow you to use more
[17:10] <ikonia> silidan: no
[17:10] <silidan> ikonia: ok ill try
[17:10] <silidan> ikonia: i guess i can do that at runtime?
[17:10] <ikonia> silidan: yes ,
[17:10] <borei> hi all
[17:10] <JohK> yahn: went back to the desktop, now its has graphical errors on top and bottom and the icon bar is somewhere in the middle
[17:10] <JohK> yahn: weird!
[17:10] <yahn> JohK, by default Lubuntu/LXDE doesn't use compiz so I'm assuming it's left over from the regular ubuntu installation
[17:10] <betsbass> hi all
[17:11] <JohK> yahn: I guess I can just uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[17:11] <yahn> JohK, run a lshw -c video if you can while LXDE is running
[17:11] <borei> im bit confused with bridge interface setup, i have the following interfaces file
[17:11] <borei> http://pastebin.com/6txsBRpn
[17:11] <borei> but why eth0 is getting ip ?
[17:12] <JohK> yahn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14439215/
[17:13] <borei> im running ubuntu 14.04 lts, any hints are more then welcome
[17:13] <silidan> ikonia: still same error
[17:13] <ikonia> silidan: damn
[17:13] <ikonia> silidan: confirm the change is active in proc
[17:14] <silidan> ikonia: did that
[17:14] <yahn> JohK, this is super strange.
[17:14] <ikonia> silidan: check it through with the app guys
[17:14] <ikonia> silidan: you now have a load of ram and bigger chunks
[17:14] <yahn> JohK, so on reboot now the desktop shows graphical errors?
[17:14] <JohK> yahn: na while I was still in there trying to click on the error dialog
[17:14] <JohK> yahn: I removed compiz and unity
[17:15] <JohK> yahn: rebooting now
[17:15] <silidan> ikonia: how did you calculate the value?
[17:15] <yahn> JohK, yeah I was gonna say that you could uninstall compiz but it removes unity entirely
[17:15] <ikonia> silidan: a /4 of your size + rounding that was a safe jump up from your 4k block
[17:16] <ikonia> I would have suggested 16k but wanted to be a bit over sized for safety
[17:18] <silidan> ikonia: and where did you get that info regarding gnuradio from?
[17:18] <ikonia> silidan: just looking at some threads on the wbe
[17:18] <ikonia> web
[17:18] <ikonia> tons of people with variations of it
[17:18] <JohK> yahn all kind of stuff now wants cpu time
[17:19] <JohK> yahn: apport, abiword???, gnome-shell
[17:20] <yahn> JohK, I fear we've created a frankenubuntu
[17:20] <JohK> yahn: and then tthe session fails and I’m back to the login screen
[17:21] <JohK> yahn:  dang, its a gui… gnome was selected
[17:21] <JohK> yahn: wow it reacts to user input
[17:21] <JohK> :)
[17:22] <yahn> JohK, so what DE are you in now?
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: got a report
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: lxde
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: a error occured during the installation of
[17:22] <yahn> JohK, I'm not surprised it's reporting an error based on what we've done to the install :P
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: libunity9 7.1.4+15 …
[17:22] <yahn> JohK, yeah a a leftover from the default install
[17:23] <JohK> yahn how can I get rid of thos leftovers? automremove?
[17:24] <JohK> yahn: autremove will definately get rid of quite some unity* packages
[17:24] <yahn> JohK, but aside from that, it's acting stable? reasonably responsive?
[17:25] <yahn> JohK, yeah autoremove. Honestly if I were you at this stage I would be looking at a total reinstall (just to eliminate any potential stability problems)
[17:25] <JohK> yahn: it’s quick
[17:25] <seemcfly> hey guys
[17:25] <seemcfly> whats the best antivirus scanner for linux does anyone know ??
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | seemcfly
[17:25] <seemcfly> thank you
[17:26] <seemcfly> is it able to scan mp3 files and rar files ?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> seemcfly: rkhunter and snort are also pretty nice
[17:26] <JohK> yahn: afaik I didn’t do much aside from installing/uninstalling packages
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> seemcfly: clamav can scan your whole system no problem
[17:27] <seemcfly> what command do i use to scan a rar file?
[17:27] <JohK> yahn: it is quick
[17:27] <Skyrider> odd..
[17:27] <Skyrider> ubuntu is not making use of the latest mono 4+ version?
[17:27] <OerHeks> seemcfly, clamav has rar support, >> clamscan <name>.rar
[17:28] <seemcfly> thank you
[17:28] <OerHeks> Skyrider, nope.
[17:28] <Skyrider> How come?
[17:29] <OerHeks> Skyrider, next version, 16.04 will >> https://launchpad.net/mono
[17:29] <Skyrider> Ah, oke. Still a shame.
[17:29] <yahn> JohK, sorry, net dced
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> seemcfly: see also man clamscan for full commands manual
[17:29] <yahn> JohK, did you get my messages before?
[17:30] <Skyrider> Forced to use xamarin list.
[17:33] <JohK> yahn: no
[17:33] <yahn> JohK, so I've had a thought. Unity is quite a heavy DE and your hardware is quite old. You really should be looking at something like Lubuntu or Ubuntu Mate on hardware of that age.
[17:34] <cfhowlett> lubuntu or xubuntu for lightweight.
[17:34] <yahn> JohK, also, we might have encountered a unity bug with your hardware and the nvidia driver
[17:34] <yahn> JohK, nouveau is a no-go on 12.04 based distributions for you although it *may* work with a newer release
[17:34] <OmieWise> Hello
[17:34] <mwhahaha> hey what's the best way to prevent services from starting on install? I'm running into an issue where rabbitmq-server is starting but for some reason it's hanging because it appears there are permission issues. This is on 14.04
[17:34] <yahn> JohK, Honestly if I were you at this stage I would be looking at a total reinstall (just to eliminate any potential stability problems)
[17:34] <OmieWise> How do i expand my file system in Ubuntu MATE?
[17:34] <yahn> I think that was everything
[17:36] <yahn> cfhowlett, JohK and yeah xubuntu is another lightweight option. Lubuntu being the lightest.
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> OmieWise  you mean, your / ?
[17:37] <OmieWise> Alight then
[17:38] <OerHeks> OmieWise, use a live-iso to mess around with partitions
[17:39] <yahn> JohK, so you can sacrifice a CD, install your choice of a lightweight ubuntu spin (bearing in mind you will probably need to install the nvidia driver from a tty since nouveau fails) or keep your current install and clean/tweak as you see fit
[17:42] <JohK> yahn: times up actually
[17:42] <JohK> yahn: it has to work now, otherwise I just throw it out
[17:43] <yahn> JohK, is it still working at the moment?
[17:43] <JohK> yahn yup
[17:43] <JohK> yahn: just setting up the network printer
[17:43] <yahn> JohK, :)
[17:46] <jpio> Hello
[17:46] <seemcfly> sup
[17:46] <JohK> yahn thanks for the support
[17:47] <yahn> JohK, no problem. I'm glad you were able to get something usable in the end
[17:47] <OerHeks> !info sup
[17:47] <jpio> Why am I not able to GPA through the launcher and everytime I do I get 'GnuPG is rebuilding the trust database. This might take a few seconds.'
[17:48] <jpio> Hello? Anyone?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> jpio  if you don't get answer here, ask in #gnupg
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> an answer*
[17:50] <jpio> MonkeyDust: Okay.
[17:55] <sanket__> bj
[17:57] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[18:02] <charlie__> hi
[18:02] <toshib> llo??
[18:03] <charlie__> hi
[18:03] <charlie__> wtf is this
[18:03] <OerHeks> charlie__, time to read the topic
[18:03] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys , i have a problem with screen brightness on my lenovo laptop here ( z500 with intel i7 3632 ) , the maximum brightness is super low on the screen , any one can help ?
[18:03] <cobra-the-joker> ubuntu 15.10
[18:03] <Chicken_Wrap> charlie__: "Official Ubuntu Support Channel".
[18:04] <Chicken_Wrap> Have you tried Xbacklight, cobra-the-joker?
[18:04] <cobra-the-joker> Chicken_Wrap: yes , no luck
[18:04] <cobra-the-joker> same for the buttons , no effect
[18:05] <charlie__> sorry, have a nice day!
[18:05] <OerHeks> cobra-the-joker, few options to try after xbacklight, i would try the xorg.conf method http://askubuntu.com/questions/476664/cannot-change-backlight-brightness-ubuntu-14-04
[18:05] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: Do you have the folder /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?
[18:06] <cobra-the-joker> yes
[18:06] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: yes
[18:06] <pae-problem> so I seem to be having the opposite problem of everyone else with PAE - I have a laptop that has PAE support and 4GB of ram, but I don't know how to enable it
[18:06] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:06] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: see if that helps at all
[18:07] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: permission denied for user and root doesn;t make any effect
[18:07] <yahn> pae-problem, you shouldn't need to enable anything. What exactly is the issue?
[18:08] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: That probably means your screen just can't get very bright
[18:08] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: unfortunatly.
[18:08] <pae-problem> yahn: laptop reports 4GB ram. linux reports 3GB ram. PAE support is disabled.
[18:08] <pae-problem> "[    0.000000] Notice: NX (Execute Disable) protection cannot be enabled in hardware: non-PAE kernel!
[18:09] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: it works correctly till i touch the brightness buttons on the laptop then it never goes back to normal
[18:09] <pae-problem> I'm running an LTS.
[18:09] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: oh. I had that issue once, I just rebound my keys to use intel_backlight instead of whatever the built in method was (and a few versions later the keys magically worked again)
[18:10] <yahn> pae-problem, are you running the 32 bit or 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[18:10] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: I never could get it to actually fix itsel
[18:10] <MiningMarsh> *itself
[18:10] <pae-problem> 32.
[18:10] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: do you remember how you fixed it
[18:11] <pae-problem> 64-bit support causes a whole dearth of issues I don't want to deal with, such as old video card support
[18:11] <Canyon> Ciao a tutti
[18:11] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: I never was able to fix it.
[18:11] <yahn> pae-problem, you may be able to enable pae manually by installing linux-generic-pae and linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:11] <yahn> pae-problem, and may I ask which LTS version you are using? 12.04 or 14.04?
[18:12] <MiningMarsh> Is ubuntu every interested in releasing an x32 version, I wonder?
[18:12] <yahn> MiningMarsh, what do you mean?
[18:12] <bazhang> did you mean i386 MiningMarsh
[18:13] <bazhang> !info skype partner
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> yahn: x32 is the newer abi, 32bit integers and memory addresses but still running in 64bit mode for all the extra registers and extensions and such.
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> meant to increase cache hits and decrease memory usage while still letting the system support more than 4gb of ram and use teh full register set
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> *the
[18:14] <pae-problem> yahn: 12.04
[18:14] <yahn> MiningMarsh, ah I see. Thanks for the info :)
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> so far the only system I am aware that offers a x32 variant is gentoo
[18:14] <yahn> pae-problem, installing those packages should resolve the issue
[18:15] <pae-problem> yahn: it appears that I did install linux-generic-pae, but it uninstalled itself
[18:15] <pae-problem> I'll give it a shot again
[18:15] <akik> "The x32 ABI was merged into the Linux kernel for the 3.4 release with support being added to the GNU C Library in version 2.16."
[18:15] <akik> didn't know of such thing but wikipedia came to the rescue
[18:17] <yahn> pae-problem, also adding forcepae -- forcepae to your grub parameters on bootup will enable it for the next session. If you reinstall 12.04 with those arguments it should be persistent.
[18:18] <yahn> pae-problem, if those packages don't work for you try booting your system with the info I provided above and see if that works instead
[18:18] <yahn> pae-problem, and if it works, a reinstall with those options may be your best bet
[18:19] <pae-problem> yahn: yeah, I put forcepae in my boot string, after that didn't work I came here
[18:20] <pae-problem> rebooting now, we'll see how this goes
[18:20] <pae-problem> thanks for your help
[18:20] <yahn> pae-problem, good luck :)
[18:24] <pae-problem> yo! that seems to have done it
[18:24] <pae-problem> le_pig: you need Pretty Eight Machine, if you haven't heard it
[18:25] <jnoob22> shaka-laka, shaka-laka
[18:25] <pae-problem> yahn: thanks much
[18:25] <yahn> pae-problem, excellent to hear. AFAIK releases after 12.04 should have PAE support enabled automaticall
[18:25] <yahn> automatically*
[18:26] <pae-problem> yeah. I intend to upgrade one of these days but for right now I'm on the road and I just needed the extra ram
[18:26] <yahn> pae-problem, no problem, glad it's working
[18:26] <pae-problem> I'm a little worried about losing my video support since my radeon is....really old
[18:27] <yahn> pae-problem, what model is it?
[18:27] <OerHeks> pae-problem, radeon 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are supported by the open driver
[18:28] <pae-problem> 3d included?
[18:28] <OerHeks> No full HW acceleration, no.
[18:28] <pae-problem> yeah. need that.
[18:28] <yahn> OerHeks, are you sure about that?
[18:28] <OerHeks> cpu runs hot on youtube :-D
[18:28] <yahn> OerHeks, I swear I've used older radeons with the open source driver and had 3d acceleration
[18:29] <pae-problem> mobility 3200
[18:29] <pae-problem> or rs780, if you prefer that
[18:29] <OerHeks> !ati
[18:31] <pae-problem> maybe when I have the money to afford to put an SSD in this laptop I can upgrade ubuntu
[18:31] <pae-problem> then again, if I can afford an ssd maybe I should just get a new laptop
[18:31] <tomreyn> yes you can get 3d acceleration on radeons using mesa
[18:31] <yahn> pae-problem, yeah seems like overkill for a laptop that old
[18:32] <pae-problem> I mean it's not an awful machine
[18:32] <yahn> the 3200 uses the r600 driver which has 3d acceleration support
[18:32] <pae-problem> athlon 64x2 4400 isn't top of the line but I am just doing presentations and music performances with 20 year old tools
[18:33] <BluesKaj> I put a ssd on my 2008 vintage HP dektop pc and it runs great, it makes a big diffeence on all apps including browsers
[18:33] <pae-problem> BluesKaj: the only difference I'm really excited for is the power savings
[18:34] <pae-problem> BluesKaj: I installed an SSD on my desktop, no noticeable difference.
[18:34] <b3543> I am looking for a program that will list network connections AND allow me to select one or more to close/kill/disconnect anyone know one?
[18:34] <compdoc> BluesKaj, its like having a newer pc
[18:34] <BluesKaj> pae, that too, haven't heard the fans running since
[18:34] <BluesKaj> pae-problem: ^
[18:34] <pae-problem> brand new platter disks are still my go-to
[18:35] <pae-problem> but on a laptop I can see an ssd being handy
[18:35] <BluesKaj> 100 bucks for a samsung evo 850 256 GB
[18:38] <marlon> Anyone from OHIO?
[18:38] <tomreyn> b3543: i don't (which doesn't mean none exists). maybe that's because this is an unusual approach. most people would rather want to prevent connections to places or from places to be established in the first place, or to kill processes.
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> marlon  what's your ubuntu question
[18:39] <Pici> marlon: If you're looking for a LUG or similar you might find someone in #ubuntu-us-oh
[18:39] <tomreyn> b3543: and then there is traffic limiting + shaping
[18:40] <Vey> Hi guys!
[18:40] <b3543> tomreyn: I used one on windows before but cant remember the name
[18:40] <Vey> I am new to Ubuntu and I hope someone can shed me some lights...
[18:40] <tomreyn> hi Vey!
[18:41] <tomreyn> !ask | Vey
[18:41] <Vey> I am currently using windows and I need to fix something which need Ubuntu
[18:41] <tomreyn> b3543: whats your use case / need in it?
[18:41] <Vey> and I follow some guide in creating Ubuntu in a usb stick
[18:41] <Vey> Hi tomreyn
[18:42] <Vey> my question is, if i create this Ubuntu usb stick... can I just boot Ubuntu from it without doing any changes to my windows?
[18:42] <compdoc> Vey, yes
[18:43] <yahn> Vey, yes, just boot the USB
[18:43] <tomreyn> pae-problem: maybe give a xubuntu 64-bit live cd / usb key a try. it might work better than expected on your system.
[18:43] <pae-problem> tomreyn: yeah, might have to do that. the true test will be steam
[18:43] <tomreyn> Vey: you may need to configure your bios to boot off the USB key, though
[18:43] <Vey> Ah...thanks compdoc and yahn...thats what I worried about lol. I dont wanna install Ubuntu and ends up I lost everything in windows XD
[18:44] <b3543> tomreyn: use case - wifi connection sometimes slows down massively, if I disconnect+reconnect it usually fixes it, I want to experiment with closing some of the connections as an alternative to see if it does the same thing but better+faster, do you see what I mean?
[18:44] <compdoc> Vey, be sure you dont click 'install'
[18:44] <yahn> Vey, I recommend Rufus on Windows to create your Ubuntu usb stick. It's bulletproof. https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[18:44] <tomreyn> pae-problem: ust try glxgears on the live cd, or maybe a small game to see whether opengl works for you
[18:44] <pae-problem> Vey: if you are installing ubuntu onto your computer from the stick, it will be very obvious and you will have the chance to stop.
[18:44] <Vey> I got no problem with bios... just Im new to Ubuntu... need Ubuntu to do something with Xbox One hdd...
[18:45] <pae-problem> tomreyn: yeah, the thing that worries me is with a really light system and an old-but-capable CPU, an old game might run smoothly even non-accelerated
[18:45] <yahn> Vey, when Ubuntu boots from the USB just select 'Try Ubuntu without installing' and you'll be golden
[18:45] <Vey> thanks a million guys! clears up everything. thanks again!
[18:46] <pae-problem> another satisfied customer
[18:47] <waza-ari> Hey all, having a question about DNS on Ubuntu. I recently changed a DNS A record which by now is known to most servers. Using dig @authoritativeServer gives the new address. /etc/resolv.conf shows <IP_ADDRESS> as DNS server. "dig @<IP_ADDRESS>" returns the new address. Nslookup however returns the old one (even when manually setting the server to <IP_ADDRESS>!). Why do nslookup and dig return different results?
[18:47] <tomreyn> b3543: i'd rather start by reviewing my system logs and dmesg (and driver or hardware issues / bugs?), disable bluetooth while i don't need it (often fixes wlan issues), take a look at the traffic going in an out (i.e. am i compromised), in that order.
[18:47] <yahn> b3543, what wifi chipset are you using?
[18:48] <pae-problem> also, <IP_ADDRESS> and not <IP_ADDRESS>?
[18:48] <tomreyn> pae-problem: most games won't run unless you have opengl > 1.1, and without acceleration you only get 1.1
[18:49] <waza-ari> pae-problem: related to my message? <IP_ADDRESS> is listet in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:49] <akik> waza-ari: <IP_ADDRESS> is the dnsmasq dns server
[18:50] <waza-ari> akik: yes, I know. AFAIK dnsmasq does not cache DNS entries, right? And why does nslookup, server <IP_ADDRESS> return a different address (the old one) compared to dig @<IP_ADDRESS>?
[18:51] <tomreyn> waza-ari: check whether you have nscd running
[18:51] <waza-ari> tomreyn: no such service and ps aux does not return a running nscd neither
[18:53] <b3543> tomreyn: yahn - no reason to think if any compromising as using a brand new install completely updated - ill try disabling bluetooth to see if it helps, network card is Intel 82577LM
[18:53] <akik> waza-ari: "dig @dns-server queried-ip +short" and "nslookup queried-ip dns-server" return different result?
[18:54] <yahn> b3543, thats your ethernet card
[18:54] <akik> waza-ari: dnsmasq reads also /etc/hosts from your host, maybe check that too(?)
[18:55] <waza-ari> akik: yes, "dig @<IP_ADDRESS> domain.tld +short" and "nslookup domain.tld <IP_ADDRESS>" return different results
[18:56] <waza-ari> akik: no matching entry in /etc/hosts
[18:56] <b3543> yahn: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200
[18:57] <akik> waza-ari: sorry, out of ideas
[18:57] <waza-ari> akik: both methods however return the correct result when querying the authoratative DNS server, but different result when querying <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:57] <tomreyn> b3543: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:57] <pae-problem> thanks again for the help, I'm off to write some music
[18:57] <yahn> b3543, are you able to post the output of iwconfig to a pastebin please?
[18:57] <waza-ari> akik: okay, thanks anyway
[18:59] <akik> waza-ari: could it be something to do with avahi?
[18:59] <sslb> Hey guys, just installed ubuntu 14.04 server edition and I can't get my static networking up. I've edited the interfaces file to include the network interface along with the netmask, gateway, and IP address. After restarting the "networking" service, I don't get anything. netstat -nr is blank as well as the route command.
[19:00] <waza-ari> akik: hm... dunno exactly what avahi is and what is has to do with name resolution
[19:01] <akik> waza-ari: avahi provides local hostname resolution
[19:02] <akik> mdns_minimal in /etc/nsswitch.conf
[19:02] <Bashing-om> sslb: For the channel's info, is this a wired connection or WIFI you are attempting to activate ?
[19:03] <sslb> Wired
[19:03] <waza-ari> akik: /etc/nsswitch.conf contains a line: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
[19:04] <b3543> yahn: http://pastebin.com/f4VavKb7
[19:04] <waza-ari> akik: never edited this file, should contain the default values
[19:04] <Bashing-om> sslb: No GUI on this server, correct ? Then show us what you have for the control file in a pastebin ' cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit ' . See if we can spot an error there .
[19:05] <sslb> Bashing-om: That would run fine if I was connected to the internet :)
[19:05] <sslb> I'll just type it up real quick
[19:06] <b3543> tomreyn: yes i've been through most of those before - could give it another go I guess but I wanted to check here in case there was a selective connection killer so I could experiment to see if there was any mileage in a different approach
[19:06] <Bashing-om> sslb: Yeah, not having a connection do make relaying info a bit more challenging . But, no step for a stepper .
[19:07] <sslb> http://pastebin.ca/3322341
[19:07] <Bashing-om> sslb: look'n .
[19:08] <yahn> b3543, thankyou. Is this issue present on any other devices connected to the network or is it unique to your current machine?
[19:10] <Bashing-om> sslb: Set a DNS source . For example " dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> " .
[19:11] <sslb> I skipped that as I'm pinging an IP address vs a domain name
[19:11] <sslb> I'm testing connection by pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:11] <sslb> I also put my nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:12] <b3543> yahn: I only know about this machine - its a clean + updated install like I said and wifi works for a while but then slows down and theres nothing running in the background and if I disconnect wait for a minute then reconnect it is fine again for another hour or two, just something I wanted to troubleshoot if possible rather than leave it as is
[19:12] <Bashing-om> sslb: K. are you getting out from your machine ? can you ping your router ?
[19:12] <sslb> Bashing-om: negative
[19:14] <Bashing-om> sslb: Back then to square one, is the hardware correctly identified ' ip link ls ' ?
[19:14] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[19:14] <sslb> Bashing-om: as stated before, the route command show nothing (other than the standard headers). Yes - I am using the correct hardware logical name
[19:15] <sslb> Bashing-om: when I shut the device down, I see the lights for the network card on the server shut off
[19:16] <Bashing-om> sslb: ' ifconfig em1 ' returns an adress ( supposing ipv4 ) .
[19:16] <flappynerd> does anyone know what the timeline looks like for the next LTS release?
[19:17] <yahn> b3543, you may see an improvement with 'sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi' followed by 'sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1' in the terminal.
[19:17] <flappynerd> I know it's not usually advisable to promise releases on any given hard deadline, but, like are we looking at 3 months? 6 months? 2 years? before the 16.04 LTS release?
[19:17] <yahn> flappynerd, the current release date for 16.04 LTS is April 21
[19:17] <baizon> flappynerd: i dont understand your question
[19:17] <flappynerd> yahn, cool thanks
[19:18] <flappynerd> baizon, that's ok, yahn does :)
[19:18] <baizon> flappynerd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[19:19] <yahn> flappynerd, the 04/10 numbers attached to Ubuntu versions (eg 14.04) relate to the month of the year that they are released
[19:19] <Bashing-om> flappynerd: In all the years of ubuntu, 06.06 is the only late release .
[19:19] <yahn> 6.06 was my first Ubuntu daily driver :) good memories
[19:21] <sslb> Bashing-om: it does not, I'm only seeing a ipv6 address
[19:23] <Bashing-om> sslb: Upstart as the init system ? then what returns ' service resolvconf status ' ?
[19:23] <sslb> Bashing-om: not sure what you mean on the upstart as the init system? Resolvconf is running
[19:24] <yahn> b3543, if you find that the command above stabilises your wifi connection you can make it permanent by adding 'options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1' to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[19:24] <flappynerd> yahn, ahh, interesting, good to know, thanks
[19:26] <Bashing-om> sslb: 14.04 and below are upstart; 15.04 and above are now at systemd as the initiate/service control (process #1) system .
[19:28] <sslb> Bashing-om: Okay, so yes upstart is the init system.
[19:28] <Bashing-om> sslb: While I am considering, are you good in the machine locally ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ' ?
[19:28] <sslb> I'm on 14.04 LTS
[19:28] <sslb> Bashing-om: I can ping localhost fine
[19:29] <sslb> Bashing-om: I'd like to mention when I installed ubuntu, I skipped the network config as it was not connected to the internet at the place I installed.
[19:31] <Bashing-om> sslb: K; moving on along .. is a driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C network ' ? in the configuation line : mine: " configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too" .
[19:32] <jmacdonald> hi. is there a way to see when an apt-cache was last updatd?
[19:32] <sslb> Bashing-om: yes, driver is igb
[19:32] <Bashing-om> sslb: K on no network when installing the OS .. we should be able to bring it up .
[19:32] <marcelo-skype> server irc.undernet.org
[19:33] <bekks> jmacdonald: the last time apt/apt-get update was run.
[19:33] <sslb> Bashing-om: that's what I figured, but just thought I'd throw that in there.
[19:33] <sslb> Bashing-om: Also, on boot, the network interface does not come up
[19:35] <jmacdonald> bekks, that is perhaps the worst answer ever. but thanks.
[19:36] <bekks> jmacdonald: Why is it the worst answer?
[19:37] <Chicken_Wrap> What's so wrong with it, jmacdonald?
[19:38] <jmacdonald> I'll correct myself, it was obtuse. I'm wondering if there is a way to see the age of the cache. I am running a chef recipe that only updates the cache if the cache is more than 24 hours old.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> sslb: Still floundering about here, You are not seeing an ipv4 address ' ip addr ' at all for your identified access ?
[19:38] <jmacdonald> i'm wondering how to find the age of the cache
[19:38] <sslb> No
[19:38] <sslb> Bashing-om: this one has me beat.
[19:38] <sslb> I'm going to try using the other network card (it is on a server). Hopefully that'll work
[19:39] <sslb> nothing
[19:40] <Bashing-om> sslb: I have seen other cases where ipv4 is not activated .. but ipv6 .. I think it is but a matter to get the system to know ipv4 . Just do not recall the specifics of how to make that happen . I bet we poke at it long enough we will find out .
[19:40] <sslb> It's gotta be a driver issue or something. The server is a hp dl160g6
[19:42] <yahn> jmacdonald, check the timestamp of update-success-stamp in /var/lib/apt/periodic/
[19:42] <yahn> jmacdonald, is that what you mean?
[19:43] <jmacdonald> ohh, that is helpful. thanks
[19:43] <VFDPrim> what channel would i go to to talk about simple screen recorder
[19:44] <bekks> jmacdonald: you could implement apt-cacher-ng and configure it properly, so you wont have to worry about the age of the cache when calling apt update.
[19:45] <VFDPrim> any one know anything about simple screen recorder on ubuntu
[19:46] <campee> i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a system with a 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS3008 PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS-3' SAS controller card and the installer won't detect it. the proper driver for this card is 'mpt3sas', which is not an option when I am given the option to select a driver. 'mpt2sas' is an option, but it can't detect any drives when I choose that option. what can I do?
[19:46] <campee> can i point it at a package or a driver somewhere?
[19:47] <campee> i can't even find mpt3sas for ubuntu anywhere
[19:48] <jmacdonald> bekks: I'm letting the cookbook take care of that, but i think my problem is actually now more chef related than ubuntu.
[19:48] <yahn> campee, what version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:48] <b3543> yahn: I ran your 2 modprobe commands, which disconnected my wifi, rebooted and now online again, is that expected behaviour from those commands??
[19:48] <jmacdonald> its a bit of a ratsnest.
[19:49] <campee> yahn: ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <sslb> how do I make sure the network interface is started at boot?
[19:50] <yahn> campee, 14.04.3?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> sslb  what makes you think it's not?
[19:52] <sslb> MonkeyDust: because when I reboot and run ifconfig the interface is down?
[19:52] <sslb> Sorry, that meant to be a period
[19:53] <yahn> apologies, net dced
[19:53] <b3543> VFDPrim - simple screen recorder worked ok on ubuntu when I tried it
[19:53] <yahn> b3543, I totally forgot it would dc you straight away. Sorry!
[19:54] <dougquaid> How can I download a list of ubuntu mirrors in a format (such as XML or json) that I can use a script to parse?
[19:54] <zippo^> hello, why don't negative and zoom of compiz work?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> !mirror | dougquaid start here
[19:55] <yahn> b3543, you'l need to make the edit to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf that I listed before to make the change permanent across reboots
[19:55] <b3543> yahn: thats ok, but it persists after reboot yes? so I am now running with different settings?
[19:55] <yahn> campee, sorry if I missed your reply. Did you say whether or not you were running 14.04.3?
[19:57] <yahn> b3543, sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 should have brought your connection back up though
[19:57] <Skyrider> Is there a way to set a directory on user on multiple users?
[19:57] <Skyrider> eg, software is accessing the directory under a specific user, but so is nobody.
[19:58] <campee> yahn: sorry. i'm checking
[19:58] <campee> yahn: 14.04.3
[20:00] <theseb> Help! How reset the "OS boot manager" on a laptop to be able to boot from
[20:00] <theseb> CD-R or USB stick?....This "OS boot manager" seems to override BIOS boot order.
[20:00] <theseb> Sound familiar to anyone?
[20:00] <b3543> yahn: first command took wifi down, second back up, but it wouldn't reconnect, so I rebooted
[20:00] <yahn> campee, the reason I ask is because it appears mpt3sas support was added in the 3.16 kernel which 14.04.3 ships with. Based on what I was just reading here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1368907
[20:01] <varikonniemi> hello, i have this weird issue
[20:01] <yahn> b3543, aah I see. The command switches off wireless N support temporarily
[20:01] <Bashing-om> sslb: Srill with you . What about ' /etc/hosts ' and ' /etc/hostname ' do they exist and agree ?
[20:01] <varikonniemi> my new laptop battery is not recognised by ubuntu
[20:01] <Chicken_Wrap> wat
[20:01] <Chicken_Wrap> I think you might've bought a faulty battery.
[20:01]  * Mathisen +1
[20:02] <campee> yahn: my install of ubuntu 14.04.3 reports this version: '3.14.47-2709-1.0.PRODUCTION-gba61458-dirty'
[20:02] <varikonniemi> most known amazon vendor
[20:02] <varikonniemi> works well
[20:02] <varikonniemi> but not showing battery indicator
[20:02] <campee> yahn: although, i'm starting to wonder if that's something custom that we've installed.
[20:02] <Chicken_Wrap> Oh. So the battery works, but it's now showing up in the indicator?
[20:02] <Chicken_Wrap> Is that what you're saying?
[20:02] <varikonniemi> the indicator is not showing up
[20:02] <varikonniemi> it thinks it is on ac i presume
[20:03] <yahn> campee, that might be the problem then. It certainly doesn't sound like a conventional version to me.
[20:05] <yahn> varikonniemi, are you able to see your battery status when you enter upower -i $(upower -e | grep 'BAT') | grep -E "state|to\ full|percentage" into the terminal?
[20:05] <campee> yahn: thanks for the help, i'll look into it
[20:05] <yahn> campee, but yeah according to that bug report you should be sweet with kernel 3.16 :) good luck!
[20:07] <campee> yahn: if i'm PXE booting these systems, is it just a matter of replacing the version of the linux kernel that the systems use to PXE boot?
[20:07] <campee> yahn: i.e. the file 'linux' in my tftp dir
[20:07] <yahn> campee, I'm honestly not sure. I don't have any experience with PXE.
[20:08] <campee> yahn: ah ok. i'll give it a shot, no harm in trying. thanks :)
[20:08] <Algebr`> is it really the case that ubuntu doesn't have anything that needs libstdc++? I just had to installed it, surpised that system didn't come with it
[20:08] <varikonniemi>  yahn  that command returns nothing
[20:11] <yahn> varikonniemi, what version of Ubuntu are you running and what is your laptop make/model?
[20:11] <varikonniemi> 12.04 acer 8920
[20:11] <varikonniemi> it works fine with original battery, not this new one
[20:13] <yahn> varikonniemi, could you also try running dmesg | grep battery in the terminal and report if that displays anything?
[20:13] <varikonniemi> this seems like some kind of DRM and it astonishes ubuntu has it
[20:13] <mimmo189> ciaoo
[20:13] <yahn> varikonniemi, it certainly wouldn't be any form of DRM
[20:14] <yahn> it could just be an acpi issue
[20:14] <varikonniemi> battery is absent the second command says
[20:15] <varikonniemi> so there is some processor or id chip in the genuine one and this does not have it?
[20:16] <yahn> varikonniemi, would you be able to reboot the machine and place acpi_osi=Linux into your grub startup arguments? After 'quiet' and 'splash'
[20:17] <varikonniemi> yes
[20:18] <Lewix> yo
[20:19] <Lewix> my multiple display doesnt work. i have three screens and gnome crashes when i log in (by redirecting me to the login page)
[20:19] <Lewix> im using xfce which works great except that multiple screens is not available
[20:20] <Lewix> (a recent update might have broke it)
[20:20] <yahn> varikonniemi, I'd be curious to know if this issue persists in Windows too. I've heard stories about certain laptops blocking 3rd party batteries through the BIOS. Might be worth checking to see if your BIOS is detecting the newer battery too.
[20:20] <varikonniemi> yahn, i think i made it but nothing changedf
[20:20] <campee> yahn: actually, it looks like 14.04 doesn't come with kernel 3.16.. I downloaded http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux and it's reporting version 3.13.0-67-generic
[20:21] <yahn> campee, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04.3/ should be the one you're looking for
[20:21] <varikonniemi> can i see the kernel parameters actually got loadeD?
[20:22] <campee> yahn: do i want the 'Netboot with HWE backport kernels' or just the regular one?
[20:22] <akik> varikonniemi: cat /proc/cmdline
[20:22] <campee> yahn: because the regular one is 3.13.0-67-generic
[20:23] <yahn> campee, yeah any of those HWE enabled iso's should work for you
[20:23] <akik> campee: 3.19.0-43 after updates
[20:23] <varikonniemi> yahn, no battery detected in windows also
[20:24] <yahn> varikonniemi, cat /proc/cmdline will show you whats running
[20:24] <yahn> varikonniemi, yeah it's definitely some kind of BIOS issue I'd say
[20:25] <campee> yahn: cool, thanks agai
[20:25] <campee> n
[20:25] <yahn> campee, no problem :)
[20:26] <yahn> varikonniemi, and I guess you could call it DRM actually. It's not related to Ubuntu though, it's the BIOS not correctly reporting the battery status to the host OS
[20:29] <varikonniemi> ok, thanks for the help
[20:30] <yahn> varikonniemi, no problem. I'd contact the seller and see if you can get a refund or replacement
[20:30] <yahn> alright gents it's been fun, time for some sleep
[20:30] <yahn> ciao
[20:40] <bshacklett> Hey, all. I'm having a bit of trouble with extending a root volume on 14.04.3
[20:41] <bshacklett> The major issue seems to be that it's contained in an extended partition. When I try to change the size of the extended partition by deleting and recreating it with fdisk, I don't have an option to start the logical volume at the same starting sector
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> bshacklett  firstly: backup before you start modifying partitions
[20:43] <bshacklett> Already did
[20:44] <bshacklett> This machine can get blown away with no real ramifications, as well
[20:44] <bshacklett> It's not in production, yet
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> ok, the you can do what you want ... my advice: create a new partition table
[20:45] <akik> bshacklett: did you select sectors instead of cylinders?
[20:46] <bshacklett> Well, I started with fdisk /dev/sda. I see three partitions. sda1 is the boot partition. sda2 is the Extended partition and sda5 is the root partition
[20:46] <bshacklett> It then has LVM on top of that.
[20:46] <bshacklett> I just deleted 5,  then 2, and tried recreating them, but the range it gives me doesn't contain the existing values.
[20:49] <bshacklett> Here's a quick gist with the steps I'm going through: https://gist.github.com/bgshacklett/1d46296e47591ebed420
[20:51] <akik><PHONE_NUMBER>58 is exactly 2048
[20:51] <jchinasky> Ciao a tutti ;)
[20:52] <akik> bshacklett: is this long ago that you've created the partition setup?
[20:52] <bshacklett> akik: Just a couple of days ago
[20:53] <akik> bshacklett: try "fdisk -c=dos"
[20:54] <akik> http://superuser.com/questions/352572/why-does-the-partition-start-on-sector-2048-instead-of-63/505802#505802
[20:55] <akik> bshacklett: try "fdisk -c=dos /dev/sda" that is
[20:55] <bshacklett> akik: No partitions show up when I use that command.
[20:55] <bshacklett> I get some pretty nasty warnings, too.
[20:56] <akik> bshacklett: you don't get the usual fdisk menu system?
[20:56] <bshacklett> akik: I do after the warnings.
[20:57] <bshacklett> printing the config shows no existing partitions
[20:57] <akik> weird, works for me
[20:57] <akik> i can create partitions that end on consecutive sectors
[20:59] <bshacklett> akik: I was originally thinking that the extended partition might be taking up more room for metadata due to the larger size, but creating it at the exact same size leaves me with the same result.
[20:59] <bshacklett> Does the Ubuntu installer use fdisk to write the partition layout?
[20:59] <akik> maybe try sfdisk?
[20:59] <artois> bshacklett: probably not
[20:59] <artois> there was a while there when fdisk didn't support GPT
[20:59] <artois> and it was never the best util for it anyway
[20:59] <artois> parted =)
[21:00] <bshacklett> artois: Oooh, pretty
[21:00] <akik> bshacklett: but you have the partition table listed in the gist, you can recreate it even if you can't see it
[21:00] <artois> fdisk is/was better for simple user usage
[21:00] <artois> but parted is really always better, IMO
[21:00] <bshacklett> Good to know
[21:00] <artois> for both end user usage, and programmatic usage
[21:01] <artois> plus Windows has its own fdisk, IIRC, so there's that crossover people may have liked
[21:01] <Jordan_U> bshacklett: If this isn't in production yet, you could save yourself some hassle and just convert to GPT, where there is no primary/extended/logical distinction. (Doing so will require you to add a 1 MiB BIOS Boot Partition though).
[21:03] <bshacklett> Jordan_U: I'll look into that. I'm mostly using this as a learning experience right now.
[21:10] <vilitaltti> hi
[21:11] <amr> if i want to use laptop-mode-tools should i remove pm-utils ?
[21:13] <AnimalFarmPig> Thoughts on https://ubuntugnome.org/ vs using standard ubuntu and installing gnome?
[21:15] <artois> amr: they work together, IIRC
[21:15] <artois> amr: so no
[21:15] <artois> either you want to use laptop-mode-tools or not
[21:15] <artois> they aren't mutually exclusive
[21:15] <amr> hm
[21:15] <artois> otherwise the package manager would tell you
[21:16] <amr> it hasnt complained to me about either :)
[21:16] <amr> basically im finding that laptop-mode-tools doesn't start at startup
[21:16] <amr> and im also seeing this in my syslog: [    3.303611] rc.local[2115]: /usr/sbin/laptop_mode: 198: /usr/sbin/laptop_mode: cannot create /dev/fd/1: No such device or address
[21:16] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: if you know before installation that you want vanilla GNOME 3, then you will save time choosing a vanilla GNOME 3 preconfigured installation
[21:16] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: if you don't, then it doesn't matter
[21:16] <AnimalFarmPig> I know that I prefer gnome3
[21:17] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: that's useful information to yourself =)
[21:17] <AnimalFarmPig> I normally use Debian, which gives you a choice of DE at install time. So, not really sure on the state of support / culture around Ubuntus with different DE's
[21:18] <genii> AnimalFarmPig: There are different flavours with different DE
[21:18] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: why use Ubuntu if you use Debian?
[21:18] <genii> AnimalFarmPig: Lubuntu (LXDE) Xubuntu (XFCE) Kubuntu (KDE) etc
[21:18] <AnimalFarmPig> and they're gonna be pretty standard Ubuntu using standard repos, just with everything set up with sane defaults and packages for me DE of choice?
[21:19] <AnimalFarmPig> We run all ubuntu for our servers at work, so figure I'll run ubuntu on my work laptop as well
[21:19] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: ah, not the worst reason
[21:19] <AnimalFarmPig> Been here almost a year, finally have some time to replace windows :)
[21:19] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: if you mean to duplicate your server enviros, that is
[21:20] <artois> otherwise it won't matter and you should just stick with what you're used to
[21:20] <artois> not that they differ so much, Ubuntu being based off Debian
[21:20] <AnimalFarmPig> I think most of the other devs who run linux are also running ubuntu. Figure I'll try to fit in
[21:20] <artois> fitting in is overrated :) but also not
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I used Ubuntu for the 5.04 - 6.06 releases before going back to Debian. I'm comfortable with it from command line, just haven't run it on the desktop in a long time
[21:21] <artois> it's all the same
[21:21] <artois> even other distros, but particularly Debian & Ubuntu
[21:21] <artois> all th same software
[21:21] <artois> the*
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> Thanks for the help, gonna grab the gnome spin and give it a go
[21:21] <artois> have fun =)
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> it's the subtle differences that can get you though :)
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> thanks, bbl
[21:22] <artois> well, intolerance of subtle differences is... understandable
[21:26] <Bassem> how can i install program frommy harddisk
[21:27] <AnimalFarmPig> oh, the actual iso is distributed from cdimage.ubuntu.com and there's an entry in the wiki. That makes me feel a lot better. The separate ubuntugnome.org had made me feel a bit sketch out it.
[21:27] <RandomNoob> hello guys. Im trying to build Glade 3.19 on ubuntu 15.10. Getting error configure: error: xmllint not found. How to install it?
[21:27] <gambl0re> how can i delete all files while excluding certain directories
[21:28] <artois> gambl0re: find would be the very precise way
[21:28] <bekks> gambl0re: What is the issue behind that?
[21:29] <artois> gambl0re: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f
[21:29] <artois> gambl0re: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -delete, etc.
[21:29] <artois> RandomNoob: ask apt-file
[21:29] <gambl0re> for example... rm -rf * (except dir1 and dir2)
[21:30] <Jordan_U> RandomNoob: Why are you trying to build Gade 3.19? What is your end goal?
[21:30] <Bassem> i download teamviewer_qs.tar.gz how can i install it?
[21:30] <gambl0re> hi Jordan_U, how are you?
[21:31] <Mathisen> Bassem, tar -xvf  teamviewer_qs.tar.gz   then read the instructions
[21:31] <RandomNoob>  Jordan_U: end goal is to get Glade 3.19 versio
[21:31] <RandomNoob> *n
[21:31] <gambl0re> also when i do try to copy a directory to another directory thats in the same folder using "cp dir/ dir2/"  i get cp: omitting directory ‘dir/’
[21:33] <Bassem> Mathisen, tar: teamviewer_qs.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[21:33] <Bassem> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[21:33] <Jordan_U> RandomNoob: That's not an end goal, that's one step toward an end goal.
[21:33] <Pici> gambl0re: you need to include a -r because cp is not recursive by default.
[21:34] <Mathisen> Bassem, i think its best if you do some google work and do some reading...
[21:34] <RandomNoob> Jordan_U:  Ok
[21:36] <RandomNoob> The solution for me sudo apt-get install libxml2-utils
[21:36] <amr> it seems opening the laptop after sleep and laptop-mode isn't enabled. if i do /etc/init.d/laptop-mode restart then my cpu scaling takes effect
[21:37] <amr> but would obviously prefer not to keep doing that :)
[21:37] <bekks> RandomNoob: Expected to be working.
[21:46] <bekks> Hi
[21:46] <bekks> Using squid3 - what do I have to do to allow .dmg to be downloaded?
[21:46] <Bassem> i used wget to download file but i dont know where it been saved to
[21:47] <bekks> Bassem: Into your current directory.
[21:47] <wallaby-on-mate> Hey I'm on the an Ubuntu mate live usb and the sound on here isn't working
[21:48] <Bassem> bekks, my current directory is desktop and i see nothing on it
[21:48] <bekks> Bassem: use "pwd" and "ls -lha"
[21:49] <Bassem> bekks, found it were at home directory
[21:49] <locky> What will you advice for sharing files between windows and ubuntu?
[21:49] <bekks> Bassem: Then you changed the working directory after downloading.
[21:50] <DirtyCajn2> What is the smartest way to: add a HD, Move 4 TB of data from a LVM to this new HD and then wipe/seperate the 1TB/3TB LVM HDDs?
[21:53] <forcebanana> gambl0re:  find foo -not \( -path foo/bar -prune \) -not \( -path foo/baz -prune \) -name \* -exec echo {} \;
[21:53] <locky> What will you advice for sharing files between windows and ubuntu?
[21:54] <forcebanana> that will list your intended targets; replace -exec echo {} \; with -exec rm -rf {} \; to delete
[21:55] <Pici> forcebanana: why not just use -delete?
[21:55] <akik> locky: ubuntu can read&write ntfs
[21:56] <Pici> locky: when dual booting? or across a network?
[21:56] <akik> locky: and windows can read ext3/4 with ext2fsd
[21:56] <zerowaitstate> can someone tell me why ls shows a group write permission on a file which uses a POSIX ACL? shell output is here: http://pastebin.com/D10C0xWv
[21:56] <locky> across network
[21:56] <forcebanana> Pici: -delete automatically enables -depth and -prune gets turned off when -depth is on :-)
[21:56] <Pici> locky: samba is probably your best bet.
[21:56] <Pici> forcebanana: ah, good to know.
[21:56] <OneM_Industries> Hey, my machine has a LPT header on the motherboard, and I am wondering how to test if it is accessible via Ubuntu?
[21:56] <locky> ok thanks Pici
[21:58] <OneM_Industries> So, I am wondering how to test if Ubuntu can see the hardware device/driver for the LPT header.
[21:58] <forcebanana> Pici: i got into the habit of not using -delete a while ago… way too easy to do damage when in a hurry. typing -exec makes me think “hey, i should echo my output here to test what i’m about to do” ;-)
[21:58] <Pici> forcebanana: -exec also has some problem with whitespace and whatnot though.  I tend to tell other people to use -print0 and xargs, although I don't often follow that advice myself.
[21:59] <forcebanana> yep
[21:59] <forcebanana> <3 xargs
[21:59] <geirha> -exec has no problem with whitespace
[21:59] <akik> Pici: it was after maybe 15 years that i got to know -print0 and xargs -0. just to think how many scripts i've hosed
[22:03] <geirha> In #bash we tend to give the opposite advice. Use -exec rather than xargs
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> akik  i know what xargs does, but what's xargs -0 ?
[22:04] <forcebanana> xargs -0 takes the output of -print0
[22:04] <forcebanana> as input
[22:04] <Pici> MonkeyDust: find -print0 combined with xargs -0 uses nulls to delimit each record
[22:04] <geirha> It's the only safe way to handle filenames with xargs. By using NUL (\0) as delimiter
[22:04] <forcebanana> what Pici said :-)
[22:04] <akik> back in the day people didn't put spaces in file names
[22:04] <forcebanana> and geirha
[22:05] <geirha> though xargs -0 is not standard, so should be avoided for portable scripts
[22:05] <forcebanana> akik: exactly
[22:06] <Pici> geirha: hm, for some reason I thought that using -exec could mangle spaces, but perhaps I was mistaken.
[22:07] <d3rp> Hi there
[22:07] <d3rp> can someone help me with a makefile?
[22:08] <AndroUser> Good morning
[22:09] <d3rp> yo
[22:10] <forcebanana> Pici: all I know is that replacing -exec rm -rf {} \; with print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf in the previous command would have disastrous results, so I can deal with improper handling of whitespace in -exec ;-)
[22:10] <forcebanana> -print0 even*
[22:11] <d3rp> really any time rm -rf is followed by a blank
[22:11] <geirha> Pici: one likely case is you saw code like  -exec bash -c ' ... {} ... ' \;
[22:12] <geirha> that fails because it tells find to *inject* the filename into the script, but find will not sanitize it for you.
[22:12] <Pici> geirha: I probably got confused while needing to do something more complex with xargs
[22:12] <geirha> The correct way is doing -exec bash -c ' ... "$1" ... ' bash {} \;  instead
[22:12] <geirha> or -exec bash -c ' ... "$@" ... ' bash {} +
[22:12]  * Pici wonders why he left #bash
[22:13] <blurkis> does canonical have a legal@ email for legal questions?
[22:13]  * Mathisen feels confused
[22:13] <Pici> blurkis: I believe so.. let me see if I can dig it up.
[22:14] <blurkis> pici thanks. :)
[22:14] <forcebanana> anyone here know firewalld fairly well?
[22:14] <k1l> blurkis: yes they have. ah Pici was faster
[22:14] <Pici> blurkis: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/terms includes a contact-us with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in it
[22:15] <Pici> blurkis: If you don't get an answer, come back and poke us here, we might be able to track down a canonical employee on irc to get your question looked at.
[22:15] <d3rp> anyone know how to build depends from a .make file?
[22:16] <d3rp> or at least make a more detailed .log from said .make file that failed without telling you why?
[22:17] <forcebanana> i’m trying to add multiple rich rules to accept traffic only on certain ports and from certain sources (i’ve got that bit sorted), and now i need rules to accept all other ingress tcp traffic for the remaining nodes in the same subnet… never done that before. docs are (as always) vague and confusing
[22:17] <d3rp> no idea
[22:21] <Nikola_Tesla> hi guys . when i try to watch this link http://startv.com.tr/canli-yayin
[22:21] <Nikola_Tesla> format is not supporting
[22:21] <Nikola_Tesla> what i have to install ?
[22:22] <Nikola_Tesla> help?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> Nikola_Tesla  it's an mp4 ... i guess you should just install restricted extras
[22:23] <PHroGman> ubuntu 14.04 xchat tells me its downloaded a file to home/.xchat/download. Yet I cant find this directory on file browser
[22:23] <genii> Yep
[22:23] <Nikola_Tesla> how can i install ?
[22:24] <genii> PHroGman: Because it begins with a dot ( . ) file browser hides it by default
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> Nikola_Tesla  sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:25] <Nikola_Tesla> ty bro i am new user :)
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> Nikola_Tesla  glad i could help
[22:27] <PHroGman> how do you unhide the folder?
[22:27] <xangua> PHroGman: control+h
[22:28] <vilitaltti> press cntrl+h to see hided files
[22:28] <Sebastien> hi
[22:28] <vilitaltti> hi
[22:29] <PHroGman> thank you
[22:29] <Sebastien> so i installed oidentd to hide the darn ~ in my ident, but i still can't manage to get rid of it. Did i miss anything? sudo apt-get install oidentd; /etc/init.d/oidentd start
[22:30] <blurkis> Pici, mail sent.  And thanks for the quick help.
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Sebastien: Did you forward the appropriate port to your machine that's running oidentd?
[22:32] <borgster_> hi
[22:32] <borgster_> Microsoft MicroBloat [TM] - Fight your irritable bowel syndrome with Microsoft MicroBloat [TM]
[22:33] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am looking at getting this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125778 Does anyone know if it works (And works well) with Ubuntu?
[22:33] <OneM_Industries> !offtopic | borgster_
[22:34] <borgster_> OneM_Industries: we all know how supportive nvidia is on nix systems
[22:35] <borgster_> I'd go with a amd ati
[22:36] <k1l> someone blaming nvidia just had not tried to run an amd card :/
[22:36] <OneM_Industries> Er..from what I have heard, the opposite is true. I though that AMD doesn't work well with Ubuntu, and nvidia did.
[22:36] <borgster_> k1l: I've run both
[22:36] <borgster_> OneM_Industries: I have had good experiences out of the box with amd; nvidia was such a pain getting sorted
[22:37] <cristian_> ciao
[22:37] <OneM_Industries> Hunh.
[22:37] <cristian_> !list
[22:37] <borgster_> eventually I did get the right drivers but its flaky
[22:40] <Sebastien> Jordan_U what port would that bt, because i don think i did
[22:40] <Sebastien> bt/ be *
[22:42] <Guest21140> hello there, does anybody know a way to quickly check what version of ubuntu we have via the command line?
[22:42] <Sebastien> i opened 113 i think thats it
[22:42] <Sebastien> Guest21140 uname -a
[22:42] <Sebastien> i think
[22:43] <genii> Guest21140: cat /etc/issue
[22:43] <k1l> Guest21140: "lsb_release -d"
[22:43] <Sebastien> lol
[22:43] <Sebastien> Joins: pisg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:43] <Sebastien> yay \o/
[22:43] <Sebastien> it worked, thanks Jordan_U
[22:43] <Guest21140> ah, awesome
[22:43] <Guest21140> ty
[22:43] <Guest21140> 15.10 is the latest right?
[22:43] <k1l> yep
[22:44] <Guest21140> awesome the type of linux i am using is linux lubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>.generic?
[22:44] <Guest21140> God bless the open source people
[22:48] <marus> if i want to update an ubuntu 14.04, just backup homedirectory and new install the new version is enough?
[22:48] <waza-ari> Guest21140: You are using Lubuntu, which basically is a flavor of Ubuntu using the lightweight desktop "lxde". There are other desktop environment out there, such as Unity (would be just Ubuntu), KDE (would be Kubuntu) or others. "<IP_ADDRESS>.generic" refers to the kernel version
[22:49] <marus> it's desktop version
[22:50] <Guest21140> ty
[22:53] <xangua> marus: update 14.04 to what? It still has support and 16.04 isn't out yet
[22:54] <marus> xangua: right, but i run into some issue with drivers, and i want new install
[22:55] <xangua> marus: so you want to reinstall then...also wouldn't be better if you stated your Actual Problem with the drivers
[22:56] <marus> xangua: it's not a Problem, but i want just new stuff, like new kernel ...
[22:56] <marus> if i run new kernel with 14.04 usb and Wifi doesnt work
[22:56] <marus> so my only Problem is backup now xD
[22:57] <nicomachus> marus: those things are much likely to work on LTS than on a newer kernel
[22:57] <xangua> marus: I'm confused you want to install something new, but you are having problems with a new kernel?
[22:57] <nicomachus> much more likely**
[23:00] <marus> yes it's also true indeed, i've just tryed 4.2.0-19 in 14.04 after that i check that i wont work
[23:00] <marus> and i have change lot of thing on my desktop, so i tought it's time for new install
[23:01] <xangua> marus: so your Wi-Fi works with the kernel provided in 14.04
[23:02] <marus> xangua: everything is working in my 14.04
[23:03] <marus> and i thing it will work also with 15.10
[23:04] <waza-ari> marus: then try if you want. But honestly, if everything is working now, wait for the next LTS
[23:04] <marus> April 21st
[23:04] <egonsen> hi! i am using ubuntu 15.10. sometimes during boot, the system hangs and nothing happens from then on. here is a photo of that situation, taken with my mobile phone (making screenshots is not possible during boot, right?): http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4228/lso94qu3_jpg.htm - how can i debug that went wrong here?
[23:05] <marus> if the next LTS is out, what is the best way to new install? only backup home folder?
[23:05] <k1l> marus: you can upgrade and dont need to install new
[23:05] <waza-ari> I upgraded to 15.10 myself and most of the stuff worked right away. Actually I'd simply upgrade and not do a new install
[23:06] <rypervenche> Backups are always a good thing to make beforehand regardless.
[23:06] <waza-ari> True.
[23:06] <k1l> marus: your personal data is in /home. most user settings are there too. system settings are most stored in /etc
[23:06] <k1l> !bakcups | marus
[23:06] <k1l> !backups | marus
[23:07] <marus> waza-ari: some time you have to new install ;-)
[23:10] <waza-ari> marus: think it depends :) one workstation started at 10.04 and survived all upgrades up to 15.04. No upgrade to 15.10 however, yet. Still pending for spare time...
[23:13] <waza-ari> but b2t: this answer (http://askubuntu.com/a/99151/384035) provides a good overview on what and how to backup and how to restore. I'd add /etc, however.
[23:17] <anabain> I need a workaround for this (apparently) insolvable problem: from the server, before shutting it down, how to tell the client that a mounted NFSv3 file share using automounter gets unmounted in order to avoid client system hanging. Is there anything that can be done with a script o whatever at the server before shutting down? Here is something that could be used as a start point:  http://serverfault.com/questions/56588/unmount-a-nfs-moun
[23:17] <anabain> t-where-the-nfs-server-has-disappeared   (user conny's answer). Then, one possible solution would be putting these commands in a script that somehow (here's where you come, hopefully) is triggered by the server before it is shut down. Any ideas? (I'm using Kubuntu 15.10 on all machines, so systemd is running)
[23:17] <marus> waza-ari: i would do it ;-) thanks you so much
[23:22] <bekks> anabain: Unmount it manually.
[23:23] <nchambers> is there an ubuntu for the i686 architecture?
[23:23] <k1l> nchambers: its the standard 32bit one.
[23:23] <nchambers> k1l, thanks
[23:23] <OneM_Industries> Hey, my machine has a LPT header on the motherboard, and I am wondering how to test if it is accessible via Ubuntu?
[23:23] <OneM_Industries> So, I am wondering how to test if Ubuntu can see the hardware device/driver for the LPT header.
[23:24] <studdentt> connect some resistors and leds to the port
[23:24] <studdentt> then write a c program to turn them on/off
[23:24] <OneM_Industries> Ok. Not sure how to do that.
[23:24] <anabain> bekks, are you saying it's *impossible* to do it automatically?
[23:25] <OneM_Industries> First, I would like to test if it even works.
[23:26] <waza-ari> OneM_Industries: http://eagerfish.eu/lpt-programming-example-in-c-for-ubuntu-linux/
[23:30] <GreekFreak> Hi all. I was running 14.04 LTS. Today I ran $do-release-upgrade -d and I assumed it would install 14.10 so that I can slowly upgrade to 15.10. I found myself with 16.04 and with only terminal. How do I install 15.10 with GUI?
[23:31] <k1l> GreekFreak: dont run commands that you dont know what they do. the -d switch made the installer look for the next developer release. which is 16.04 now.
[23:32] <k1l> GreekFreak: since you cant downgrade ubuntu releases you need to reinstall a 14.04 or a 15.10. boot up a live ubuntu version to backup your personal data if you didnt do that before the upgrade
[23:35] <GreekFreak> k1l: none of my data is on that partition so they're safe. Is there no way I can "activate" the GUI on the 16.10 and wait for the world to "catch up"?
[23:37] <k1l> you mean 16.04. since that is still in development and changing a lot that could happen more often so i suggest begginers, who cant help themselves to sort that, not to use that version.
[23:37] <k1l> support for the development releases is in #ubuntu+1 . but most people expect the development users to fix basic stuff themselves.
[23:39] <MooseGuts> The xubuntu installer doesn't seem to like my chromebook's mmc type hd.
[23:40] <GreekFreak> k1l: understood. thank you. looks like I'll need to go through all my folders and make sure I don't lose anything *sigh*
[23:40] <GreekFreak> you live and learn lol
[23:40] <gordonjcp> GreekFreak: just copy the contents of /home/ to another drive, and wipe and reinstall
[23:40] <gordonjcp> no biggie
[23:41] <Xeno`> hey guys… havent installed ubuntu in a handful of years. I have an iMac with a 120gb windows partition that I’m trying to replace with Ubuntu. It didn’t detect windows, so I have to use “Something Else” to choose the partition
[23:41] <Xeno`> I found the appropriate windows partition but my question is abound the boot loader — where should I put that?
[23:41] <GreekFreak> gordonjcp: thanks.
[23:42] <Xeno`> it defaults to the mac boot partition, but I dont want to override that, right?
[23:42] <Xeno`> *overwrite
[23:43] <MooseGuts> Why would xubuntu's installer be fussing about my mmcblk0rpmb when that isn't even the target of the installer. mmcblk0 is.
[23:43] <MooseGuts> Two totally different devices on the computer.
[23:49] <Caplain> ran service postgresql stop but netstat -anutp | grep 5432 shows it's still running. i kill that and another pops up. wtf
[23:50] <MooseGuts> killall postgresql?
[23:51] <MooseGuts> Would be nice if someone would resond to me as to why the installer won't let me install...
[23:52] <Caplain> MooseGuts, yeah and the process starts right back up again
[23:53] <MooseGuts> I have a similar problem with pulseaudio resurrecting itself too.
[23:53] <bekks> Caplain: stop the service, dont kill it.
[23:53] <MooseGuts> bekks: He tried.
[23:54] <Caplain> bekks, service postgresql stop
[23:55] <Caplain> bekks, did that too
[23:55] <Caplain> these are the moments in which i go back to gentoo :/
[23:57] <k1l> Caplain: so something is restarting postgresql? like a webserver or something?
[23:58] <Caplain> k1l, that's my guess. i installed chef but that service won't even start. not without postgres working properly which it isn't and i can't restart it and...this is why we drink, right?
[23:59] <Caplain> root      1067  0.0  0.0   4216   640 ?        Ss   18:39   0:00 runsv postgresql
[23:59] <Caplain> odd, that should have been terminated when i stopped the service, right?