[11:01] <krlhc8> : potwak that's what google's for; i'll start searching for it...
[11:01] <potwak> krlhc8: yeah, you may also search it on ubuntu forums
[11:01] <rww> YUKI: what's the output of "ls /etc/rc2.d/*dm*"?
[11:01] <Slart> frybye: I tried searching for a equalizer for pulseaudio some time ago but didn't find anything easy to use.. there was one but you had to recompile stuff and it wasn't that good anyways
[11:01] <Slart> YUKI: here's a thread about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48780
[11:01] <YUKI>  thank you
[11:03] <gizmo> Slart,  can i pm you..?
[11:03] <gizmo> i need sumthin to ask you..but prvate..
[11:03] <potwak> krlhc8: try this: "lshw -C network"
[11:03] <frybye> thanks slart....
[11:03] <krlhc8> ok
[11:03] <krlhc8> i found it on the bottom of the laptop
[11:04] <frybye> not that it has really got me that much further - but - you tried.. heheh
[11:04] <potwak> krlhc8: are you running ubuntu right now?
[11:04] <krlhc8> yeah
[11:04] <krlhc8> it's a broadcom!
[11:04] <krlhc8> oh noes!
[11:05] <potwak> krlhc8: hey
[11:05] <krlhc8> potwak yes?
[11:05] <jean> w
[11:06] <potwak> krlhc8: try this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[11:06] <jean> magrib.......
[11:06] <Da_Wi> hello ubuntu. I have a question on sound capturing. I tried it with "arecord -f dat -d 20 foobar.wav" .... but nothing happens. All possible sliders in "gnome-vulume-control" are at the maximum... I'm desperate
[11:06] <Da_Wi> I just hear silence
[11:07] <Da_Wi> any suggestions?
[11:07] <krlhc8> potwak: well it installed a proprietary driver when i first booted, but it was hard to tell what driver it actually was.  i'm now thinking it did install the proprietary broadcom driver, but lshw -C network says it's disabled.  how do i enable the wireless card?  the button doesn't seem to do the trick.
[11:09] <Slart> gizmo: sorry.. had to go do something for the wife.. sure pm away
[11:10] <potwak> krlhc8: http://tenthblog.com/2008/11/09/ubuntu-how-to-enable-your-wireless-card-dell-broadcom-bcm4311/
[11:11] <krlhc8> potwak: thank you thank you!!! I'll give it a try.
[11:11] <potwak> krlhc8: i'm not sure about it, but just try it out. might help.
[11:11] <hosstell> woot, finally got USB devices to work in VBox.  If anyone has ever wondered how to do it, click on the first link yielding the results of a "Virtualbox USB Printer" search.
[11:11] <hosstell> *in google.
[11:12] <potwak> krlhc8: i think different devices require different installations. good luck!
[11:13] <Slart> Da_Wi: if it helps to diagnose it in any way.. that command does record for me
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> i downloaded a kde them
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> its a tgz.bz file
[11:14] <cumulus007> a KDE thema?
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> how can i isntall it ?
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> theme*
[11:14] <krlhc8> potwak: AAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!    It works!
[11:14] <Da_Wi> Slart, thx.
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> its a tar.bz2
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> file
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> how can i install it
[11:14] <cumulus007> silv3r_m00n: do you mean a Plasma theme?
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> its a KDE 3.5 theme
[11:14] <potwak> krlhc8: hahaha, nice to hear it works!
[11:14] <silv3r_m00n> i mean i am using kde 3.5
[11:14] <krlhc8> potwak: it's just a simple little command in the terminal that starts up the wifi card.  why can't ubuntu devs be on top of this?!
[11:15] <silv3r_m00n> and i download from kde-looks
[11:15] <potwak> krlhc8: there are countless of companies that uses different hardware.
[11:15] <krlhc8> potwak: very true
[11:15] <silv3r_m00n> cumulus007: can u tell me how can i install it
[11:15] <silv3r_m00n> and get it to work
[11:16] <cumulus007> silv3r_m00n: unfortunately, no.
[11:16] <silv3r_m00n> anybody there
[11:16] <nevoeiro> hello. since yesterday, update manager is giving me problems. can't update to linux-generic <IP_ADDRESS>.14...? try partial upgrade but nothing. anyone with this problem?
[11:16] <silv3r_m00n> i want to install a kde theme i downloaded from kde-looks
[11:16] <potwak> krlhc8: you also got a score on your girlfriend. haha
[11:16] <silv3r_m00n> its a tar.bz2 file
[11:16] <krlhc8> potwak: looollz yeah so true.  it's worth it mousing around with her Hello Kitty mouse!
[11:17] <krlhc8> potwak: i hate this stupid mouse
[11:17] <krlhc8> potwak:  i'd use the touchpad but the left mouse button went out
[11:18] <potwak> krlhc8: maybe you have to buy a new one.
[11:18] <potwak> krlhc8: its chip.
[11:19] <potwak> krlhc8: :p
[11:20] <potwak> hello Grom?
[11:20] <krlhc8> potwak: its chip?
[11:21] <potwak> *.
[11:21] <Grom> hello
[11:21] <potwak> krlhc8: i think so. :p
[11:21] <xand_> hi folks, is there a way to highlight text in terminal from the keyboard so i can send it to clipboard with ^X ? Actually it does not need to be highlighted, It could be something that puts the line in clipboard.
[11:21] <krlhc8> potwak: seems just like the soft rubber went out.  you know, like what usually happens on calculators and such.
[11:22] <abarai_renji> sorry, a bit help in usb gamepad please, i have install jcalibrator, and succesfully calibrate my usb gamepad i.e. i prees the up, down, left, right, etc button jcalibrator agreed. but i can't use it with VBAexpress, how do i use it?
[11:22] <potwak> krlhc8: you may also find out what happened inside. if your not lazy.
[11:22] <primski> can anyone check and see if there is already package linux-restricted-modules_2.6.27-11-generic in the ubuntu-proposed repo ? im missing it and have wireless broken couse of it :s
[11:22] <potwak> krlhc8: i have repaired my mouse several times.
[11:22] <krlhc8> potwak: well, i am a electrical engineering student...
[11:22] <goog> Hey People! Im running Ubuntu8.04 on a notebook and I never managed to get my external monitor working. It works under windows though. When i start the "Screen resolution" thingy in ubuntu, my external monitor blinks for a shorttime when i change settings and thats all. Any ideas?
[11:23] <krlhc8> potwak: a little on the "i really really don't feel like it side"
[11:23] <potwak> krlhc8: i'm also a computer engineering student. :p
[11:23] <krlhc8> potwak: go figure
[11:23] <krlhc8> potwak: i actually am finally done with classes, period!
[11:24] <krlhc8> potwak: i'm so so happy it's finally over
[11:24] <tavi----> hy
[11:24] <goog> !twinview
[11:24] <kley> i wanna salute all the guys here
[11:24] <krlhc8> potwak: finals were such a bitch, too.  you'd think they'd lay off on your last semester, but no
[11:24] <tavi----> i closed vlc but stii the music is heard
[11:24] <tavi----> from the movies
[11:24] <tavi----> movie
[11:25] <potwak> krlhc8: oh, yeah? i still have 1 and 1/2 year on those boring class.
[11:25] <goog> how do i know if i have a nvidia card?
[11:25] <_eXeCuTeR> any os devers here?
[11:25] <tavi----> who help me close her
[11:25] <tavi----> ?
[11:25] <Neaai> goog: lspci          and check the output
[11:25] <krlhc8> potwak: do you have to take operating systems? lol
[11:25] <Neaai> tavi: see what you get with:    ps aux | grep vlc
[11:26] <goog> Neaai: "lspci | grep nvid" comes back empty
[11:26] <tavi----> tavi      7862  0.0  0.0   3004   748 pts/0    D+   13:26   0:00 grep vlc
[11:26] <potwak> krlhc8: yeah, i will take it up on next year.
[11:26] <tavi----> the sound is still heard
[11:26] <potwak> krlhc8: what is your country btw?
[11:26] <Neaai> goog: just "lspci" and check all what comes.
[11:26] <krlhc8> potwak:  my favorite classes were always CpE courses.  USA
[11:26] <Neaai> tavi----: you still hear the sound ?
[11:26] <tavi----> yes
[11:27] <tavi----> i used even sistem monitor
[11:27] <tavi----> and i tried to shut down the process
[11:27] <Slart> xand_: I think the gnome terminal is pretty mouse dependant.. at least I can't find any keyboard shortcuts for selecting text
[11:27] <tavi----> was a vlc there
[11:27] <abarai_renji> sorry, a bit help in usb gamepad please, i have install jcalibrator, and succesfully calibrate my usb gamepad i.e. i prees the up, down, left, right, etc button jcalibrator agreed. but i can't use it with VBAexpress, how do i use it?
[11:27] <tavi----> i shutted
[11:27] <tavi----> but still heard
[11:27] <potwak> krlhc8: i'm a filipino. what is CpE?
[11:27] <krlhc8> potwak: i love 8051 and c-code -- not assembly.  Have you had any microcontroller classes.  they're so fun.
[11:27] <kley>  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up  SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device ;( can any one hep please ?
[11:27] <xand_> Slart: it can be any terminal, i'm crazy about this :)
[11:27] <krlhc8> CpE = computer engineering
[11:28] <potwak> krlhc8: i have studied 16F84A picmicro
[11:28] <tavi----> i have closed from the down right click close
[11:28] <neil_d> tavi----: with vlc I found you need to 'stop' the movie/music before exiting the program.  If you eject the disk the sound will stop.
[11:28] <krlhc8> kley: ha!  i just tried that command!!!  it doesn't work does it?!
[11:28] <kley> i have a hp laptopb with ubuntu 8.10  on it , cant get wireless working
[11:28] <potwak> krlhc8: from microchip. how about you?
[11:28] <Neaai> tavi----: I suppose the sound ends when you kill X ?
[11:28] <xand_> Slart: i measn, i can shift+insert but not copy, whats the point...:p
[11:28] <kley> no
[11:28] <krlhc8> kley: i just fixed wifi
[11:28] <tavi----> neil_d:  this is a bug? or i need to do this every time?
[11:28] <krlhc8> kley: do you have a broadcom wifi card?
[11:29] <rww> potwak, krlhc8: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support. Please take off-topic conversations to #ubuntu-offtopic or private messaging. Thanks :)
[11:29] <kley> no
[11:29] <Slart> xand_: does the plain old tty even support copy/pasting? it might be a gnome/X thing
[11:29] <tavi----> Neaai: i do not intend to kill x
[11:29] <krlhc8> go to this website and try out the commands given in the page: http://tenthblog.com/2008/11/09/ubuntu-how-to-enable-your-wireless-card-dell-broadcom-bcm4311/
[11:29] <selinuxium> hi there everyone. I has installed LAMP on my laptop to test, i can see apache running as www-data via  ps -aef|grep apache. I wouldlike to add my user to the ww-data group but I cannot see it in the Users and Groups GUI... Is this normal?
[11:29] <tavi----> cause i can be here
[11:29] <potwak> rww: sorry. :)
[11:29] <kley> krlhc8 on    lspci | grep -i network  it gives me
[11:29] <kley> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[11:29] <krlhc8> kley: go to this website and try out the commands given in the page: http://tenthblog.com/2008/11/09/ubuntu-how-to-enable-your-wireless-card-dell-broadcom-bcm4311/
[11:30] <Neaai> tavi----: but in order to check and confirm things I mean.
[11:30] <tavi----> neil_d:  eject teh disk? cd-rom? i tried same thing
[11:30] <krlhc8> kley: okay.
[11:30] <neil_d> tavi----: I suppose it could be a bug, the vlc certainly isn't cleaning up properly, when exiting.
[11:30] <tavi----> Neaai: i didn see this situation before so i do not know what to say
[11:30] <krlhc8> rww: sorry!!!
[11:30] <kley> does http://tenthblog.com... will help on my card ?
 ?
[11:30] <tavi----> neil_d: so whatś the solution?
[11:30] <neil_d> tavi----: what thing.
[11:31] <clearzen> the Wasatch winter ale is dope. the Serra Nevada wniter ale isn't a poor choice either
[11:31] <tavi----> the sound don stop
[11:31] <tavi----> don´t
[11:32] <Neaai> tavi----: you're playing a dvd movie in your case ?
[11:32] <neil_d> tavi----: if you run "ps -AF | grep vlc -" then kill the process the sound will stop.
[11:32] <potwak> kley: you have a problem on your wireless card?
[11:32] <tavi----> i play a mp4 from the pc
[11:32] <Neaai> neil_d: there was no vlc process running when we checked earlier
[11:32] <tavi----> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$ ps -AF | grep vlc - tavi      7873  7844  0   752   772   0 13:32 pts/0    00:00:00 grep vlc - tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[11:33] <xand_> Slart: well, i just realized that my mouse is not configured for tty, but i think it used to work...
[11:33] <tavi----> this is a vlc problem?
[11:34] <Neaai> tavi----: you could try to see what gives:  sudo lspci | grep mp4
[11:34] <Neaai> tavi----: err.. wrong erase that
[11:34] <kley> well ,the problem is it doesnt work
[11:34] <abarai_renji> sorry, successs, yeah
[11:34] <Neaai> tavi----: sodo lsof | grep mp4
[11:34] <tavi----> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$ sudo lspci | grep mp4 [sudo] password for tavi:  tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[11:34] <kley> my mobile detects wireless , but may pc doesnt
[11:34] <Neaai> sudo*
[11:34] <kley> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:34] <kley>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          /etc/network/interfaces:21: option with empty value
[11:34] <kley> ifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[11:34] <kley>     thats normal ?
[11:34] <FloodBot1> kley: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <Neaai> tavi----: I messed up my typinng. Please this:   sudo lsof | grep mp4
[11:35] <tavi----> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/tavi/.gvfs       Output information may be incomplete. tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[11:35] <neil_d> tavi----: you could try logging out.
[11:35] <potwak> kley: you should install the appropriate dirver
[11:35] <Slart> kley: nope.. can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[11:35] <kley> to pastebin means to show the content ?
[11:35] <krlhc8> kley: sorry
[11:35] <tavi----> maibe i can try restart x....
[11:36] <tavi----> but this doesn´t solve the problem
[11:36] <tavi----> i must know if is a bug
[11:36] <potwak> kley: what is the name of your wireless card?
[11:36] <Neaai> tavi----: that's what I meant with killing X. you can do that by logging out, or the harsh way,  ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:36] <tavi----> or a mistake of mine
[11:36] <tavi----> harsh way?
[11:36] <neil_d> tavi----: when using vlc, remember to use the stop button first, before closing the program.
[11:37] <tavi----> ctrl alt backspace is the most close
[11:37] <Neaai> tavi----: yea, that's the harsh way. The "shoot X in the head with a gun" way
[11:37] <tavi----> neil_d: aha....so is a bug of vlc?
[11:37] <tavi----> Neaai: is a recomded way?
[11:37] <Neaai> tavi----: no.
[11:37] <tavi----> why?
[11:37] <kley> paste bin  of /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/89148/
[11:38] <tavi----> and whats the recomended way?
 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[11:38] <Neaai> tavi----: because all processes are just terminated. no clean up is done. gdm itself is being killed and ALL what runs in your current session follows it to the same fate. Which is to restart.
[11:39] <tavi----> aha
[11:39] <tavi----> so the recomended is?
[11:39] <Neaai> tavi----: you can shutdown gdm with:   sudo "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[11:39] <kley> can any one help ?
[11:39] <tavi----> not this
[11:39] <tavi----> whatś recomended
[11:39] <neil_d> tavi----: you can also log out,  do you know how ?
[11:40] <tavi----> no
[11:40] <potwak> kley: try to read this thread. this might help. :)
[11:40] <tavi----> i cat restart the pc
[11:40] <potwak> kley: http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fph.ubuntuforums.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D730220&ei=aNlMSZm0N5zoswKUjbTiDQ&usg=AFQjCNGIC7JcEXirjECE0xfEZVJ0IYTtrg&sig2=jZoOPKDWElgf5SQch1pMDA
[11:40] <Neaai> tavi----: you can shutdown gdm with:   sudo "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"  that's how you should shutdown X/gdm
[11:40] <tavi----> that is more simply
[11:40] <tavi----> i can
[11:40] <kley> 10x potwak
[11:40] <potwak> kley: sorry, i messed up. http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=730220
[11:40] <neil_d> tavi----: top right there is a red icon that looks like a 'power' symbol, see it ?
[11:40] <tavi----> and i suppose when a restart is done a cleanup is done ?
[11:40] <Neaai> tavi----: to start it again do:   sudo "/etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:40] <kley> ok
[11:41] <tavi----> neil_d: yes to him i refer tro restart
[11:41] <tavi----> Neaai: neah i do not handle good linux
[11:41] <tavi----> so better do it easy
[11:41] <tavi----> :)
[11:41] <clearmoments> potwak: Would you mind if I offer kley a suggestion, I don't want to hijack your help.
[11:42] <tavi----> so recomended is the red button then restart?
[11:42] <neil_d> tavi----: just try the gui way first, you can allways restart gdm if you need to latter.
[11:42] <tavi----> instead of ctrl alt backspace
[11:42] <neil_d> tavi----: yes.
[11:42] <potwak> clearmoments: alright.
[11:42] <tavi----> gui?
[11:42] <potwak> clearmoments: my moment is clear.
[11:42] <neil_d> tavi----: no... not restart, log out
[11:43] <goog> Hey People! I have an amilo notebook and want to activate an external monitor. So far (several hours of experimentation) no luck. External monitor stays black. On windows it works. Any ideas?
[11:43] <tavi----> but i need later the pc
[11:43] <kley> potwak :( ,i cant acces http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=730220
[11:43] <clearmoments> kley: Have you opened a terminal window and typed dmesg | less ?
[11:43] <tavi----> so ? i need restart
[11:43] <Neaai> tavi----: xtrl-alt-backspace is the harshest way to restart X. Do *not* turn that to a habit.
[11:43] <tavi----> Neaai: hobby?
[11:43] <clearmoments> kley: I apologize if you've tried that already.
[11:44] <neil_d> tavi----: you probably don't need to restart the whole computer, just log out the log back in, its much quicker.
[11:44] <Neaai> tavi----: just avoid doing that.
[11:44] <kley> no man  i didnt
[11:44] <kley> :(
[11:44] <tavi----> neil_d:  so how i do it?
[11:44] <Neaai> tavi----: man, just logout and then login back.
[11:44] <kley> what should i look at , search  wireless things ?
[11:45] <clearmoments> kley: Try that and search for the string ath0 or wlan0 something
[11:45] <kley> ok
[11:45] <tavi----> where is that cause i have the pc in my language
[11:45] <tavi----> ?
[11:45] <clearmoments> See if the card is loading the driver, if not, you can try ndiswrapper
[11:45] <clearmoments> That wraps "some" Windows drivers as linux ones.
[11:45] <neil_d> tavi----: click on the red button, a window will pop up ask to do 6 things, click log out, then when this is done, you will see the log in screen, and reenter you name and password to log back in.
[11:46] <potwak> kley: sorry for that broken link. try this, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-321045.html
[11:46] <tavi----> neil_d: i have the pc in my language
[11:46] <clearmoments> I really like this channel.
[11:46] <clearmoments> Not all that n00b, R.T.F.M.. crap.
[11:46] <tavi----> neil_d: what´s that option? first from top ? first from down?
[11:46] <neil_d> tavi----: the log out button is top left, a green circle with an arrow on it.
[11:47] <tavi----> also green that arrow
[11:47] <tavi----> i see it
[11:47] <tavi----> so i will use this instead ctrl alt backspace?
[11:47] <clearmoments> potwak: My friend is having a problem with his wireless card too, I appreciate that link its very helpful.
[11:47] <tavi----> and i need to close all i have open?
[11:47] <Neaai> tavi----: .... forget about ctrl-alt-backspace.
[11:48] <tavi----> Neaai: ok
[11:48] <Neaai> tavi----: JUST DO IT
[11:48] <kley> dmesg | grep  wlan
[11:48] <kley> dmesg | grep  ath
[11:48] <kley>   clearmoments nothing
[11:48] <tavi----> i need to close mozzila and others?
[11:48] <kley> :(
[11:48] <clearmoments> kley: That thread potwak just posted seems pretty helpful.
[11:48] <Neaai> tavi----: all will close with it.
[11:48] <tavi----> Neaai: ok
[11:48] <arfis> j
[11:48] <tavi----> see you later
[11:48] <Neaai> k
[11:48] <neil_d> tavi----: yes, if you need to turn the computer off use the "red circle" and the blue circle made of two arrow to restart the computer from scatch.
[11:49] <kley> i am reading
[11:50] <neil_d> I found this cute computer http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjrsx/index.html it has a CPU without a floating point unit,  can I use it as a LTSP terminal ?
[11:50] <cumulus007> never mind, found it
[11:50] <tavi----> i´m back
[11:50] <neil_d> tavi----: did it stop the sound ?
[11:50] <kern> im trying to install farsight.. but the dependecies are listed at  http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Farsight when i type $ sudo apt-get install glib  it doesnt find any packages
[11:51] <tavi----> neil_d: yes
[11:51] <kley> potwak on command lsmod | grep ipw3945 i got nothing , what does this mean ? what do i need ?
[11:51] <neil_d> tavi----: good.  how long you been using linux ?
[11:51] <Neaai> tavi----: you might want in the future to see and try to replicate the problem so you'll know when exactly does that happen.
[11:51] <tavi----> well 6 monts
[11:52] <b33r> Hello can anyone help me setup VPN access through openvpn
[11:52] <etan> does ubuntu hardy will run smoothly in Pentium 3, 512 MB ram,
[11:52] <Neaai> etan: smothly is very relative a word.
[11:52] <neil_d> Neaai: I get it when I stop vlc without first stopping it playing.
[11:53] <tavi----> Neaai: i had have open this at that moment ....mozzila firefox whit alot of internet sites...pidgin connected to yahoo messenger and irc ....second hdd 168 gb
[11:53] <kurt> #xubuntu
[11:53] <tavi----> well good to know to the future
[11:53] <Neaai> neil_d: you use 8.10 ?
[11:54] <neil_d> Neaai: 8.04
[11:54] <kley> etan 4 sure , event 8.10 will ran , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[11:54] <clearmoments> b33r: There is a very detailed guide here that may be helpful to you: http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/howto.html#install
[11:54] <Neaai> neil_d: I have that too and it's all good with it. While on another laptop with 8.10 i've had vlc behave funny sometimes.
[11:55] <etan> my friend installed ubuntu hardy on this pc, and can't run.
[11:55] <tavi----> well now i do not hear anything
[11:55] <tavi----> i try to see the movie
[11:55] <tavi----> but nothing
[11:56] <Neaai> tavi----: and when you want to listen to a song, for eg ?
[11:56] <tavi----> mean now to stop the movie and tring to listen a song?
[11:56] <arthur_8200> Hi
[11:56] <Neaai> etan: what do you mean with "can't run" ?
[11:57] <goog> Hey People! With xrandr, i disabled my notebook monitor and enabled my external monitor. So far so good. But when I do "xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024 --rate 60" I get "xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x1024". Any idea why? The monitor CAN do 1280x1024. And under windows, it works. Where is xrandr getting the info from, that there is no 1280x1024?
[11:57] <b33r> clearmoments, isn't there some sort of GUI I tried from networkmanager it's not working the vpn provider sent me certificates and a .ovpn file..
[11:57] <gizmo> tavi----,  type mixer
[11:57] <arthur_8200> What's the easiest way to use an NFS-mount with different users (uids)?
[11:57] <tavi----> in terminal?
[11:57] <gizmo> yeah
[11:57] <tavi----> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$ mixer Momentan, programul 'mixer' nu este instalat.  Îl puteți instala prin rularea: sudo apt-get install csound bash: mixer: command not found tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[11:57] <gizmo> type 'sudo apt-get install csound
[11:57] <neil_d> Neaai: just download 8.10 yesterday, I am using 8.04 because that is what I installed on works computer system.  I put in a LTSP system using 8.04.
[11:58] <tavi----> why?
[11:58] <gizmo> i think so..
[11:58] <amanulla> hi
[11:58] <tavi----> come on
[11:58] <kley> potwak on command lsmod | grep ipw3945 i got nothing on that thread :( can you help ?
[11:58] <tavi----> say me why
[11:58] <gein> Im trying to switch from freebsd -> ubuntu on my server. I have the machine connected to a LCD monitor using a S-video cable. The boot sequence goes well and I am able to initiate the Ubuntu installation, but after a while (when the ubuntu progress bar is finished) I lose the video output and the monitor says "no signal"
[11:58] <Neaai> tavi----: to install what you're missing
[11:58] <gizmo> tq Neaai
[11:58] <gizmo> but Neaai  am i right?
[11:59] <Neaai> gizmo: i'd guess so yea
[11:59] <gein> is the ubuntu installation switching video output from?
[11:59] <jrib> gein: you are using X?
[11:59] <gein> no
[11:59] <gein> well
[11:59] <gizmo> Neaai,  lol..maybe it come from what ive been through befoe
[11:59] <gein> I don't know what the installation does?
[11:59] <tavi----> so whatś the problem?
[11:59] <gein> I choose "install ubuntu" from the main menu
[11:59] <jrib> gein: what iso did you download exactly?
[11:59] <gein> hmm, let me check
[11:59] <etan> neaai: when running application, pc will hang, keyboard not function and nothing can be done except switch the main power off.
[11:59] <gizmo> tavi----,  you already install csound?
[12:00] <tavi----> yes
[12:00] <gizmo> tavi wait
[12:00] <gein> 8.04 server edition
[12:00] <tavi----> ok
[12:00] <Neaai> tavi----: I don't know. It could be a faulty decoder for mp4 for example. You have to see how it behaves with other formats. music, video, .flv and all.
[12:00] <clearmoments> b33r: Try this page http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/graphical-user-interface.html
[12:00] <Tobias92> Say, ubuntu people, I can't mdb (mono-debugger) to run, because it keeps throwing me an exception telling me it cant find Mono.Debugger.DebuggerOptions. Am I missing some dependency?
[12:01] <tavi----> just don´t do me problems i have wrecked once my pc
[12:01] <gizmo> tavi----,  you already install..why dont you try you music..
[12:01] <gein> but I have two isos, one for desktop and one for server. Could it be the case that I have mixed those two cds?
[12:01] <Neaai> etan: and when does this happen? at which moment ?
[12:01] <neil_d> Neaai: could tavi---- need a full restart ?
[12:01] <clearmoments> b33r: Have you tried contacting the provider?
[12:01] <gein> I pretty sure that's not the case (but I have not labeled them so I'm not sure
[12:01] <gizmo> tavi----,  you ask from pro..i just tell what i know
[12:01] <b33r> clearmoments, I will when I give up :d
[12:01] <Neaai> neil_d: could be, if the driver is stuck for some unearthy reason. He'd be safe to reboot at this point.
[12:02] <tavi----> ?
[12:02] <baz_> howdy
[12:02] <jrib> gein: I'm 90% sure the server iso won't give you that shiny progress bar.  It may be.  The only difference would be that X is trying to load and then messes things up.  Did the install run a nice GNOME-like gui?
[12:02] <slashme> My wife is at home with my Debian box, and she is using a DSL modem which gives the box a local IP address (<IP_ADDRESS> or whatever) via DHCP, so there is no ppoe or anything.  I want to ssh into the box, but I can't figure out what command to tell her to type to find out the address!!!
[12:02] <clearmoments> b33r: To get those links I googled "openvpn gui linux" and "openvpn"
[12:02] <potwak> kley: sorry for the late reply. does your wireless card works on windows?
[12:02] <jrib> !who| gein
[12:02] <Neaai> slashme: she wants to ssh somewhere or you want to ssh to that debian box ?
[12:03] <neil_d> tavi----: try a restart,  bottom middle of the window.
[12:03] <slashme> I want to ssh into her box, so first I need her IP address.
[12:03] <clearmoments> slashme: Can she use firefox?
[12:03] <kley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/89161/  does this mean i have the drivers ?
[12:03] <tavi----> the sound in vlc don´t work whit music
[12:03] <gizmo`helper> am i nice with this nick?
[12:03] <gein> jrib: I havent seen any gnome like gui before the screen goes blank, no
[12:03] <Neaai> slashme: ifconfig
[12:03] <kley> potwak i dont have windows
[12:03] <jrib> slashme: whatismyip.org
[12:03] <slashme> clearmoments: yes, she can.
[12:03] <b33r> clearmoments, btw this info I got from provider http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/89162/
[12:03] <gizmo`helper> am i nice with this nick?
[12:03] <clearmoments> slashme: She can go to http://whatismyip.org
[12:03] <jrib> gein: alright, then I don't know
[12:03] <clearmoments> It will report her external ip
[12:03] <tavi----> i doubt he can play music
[12:03] <gein> jrib: ok, thanks anyway
[12:03] <slashme> jrib, clearmoments that gives the service provider's IP address.
[12:03] <kley> i had vista a year ago 3 days i bot the lap and formated it , i dont need evil
[12:04] <Neaai> tavi----: try a reboot at this point.
[12:04] <gizmo`helper> tavi----, can play now?
[12:04] <jrib> gein: try to see if you get a console on the screen if you choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[12:04] <slashme> Neaai: ifconfig only gives the local address configured by the router.
[12:04] <tavi----> no
[12:04] <clearmoments> slashme: What ip are you looking for?
[12:04] <etan> neaai: aplication running but displays line distortion after setting up the screen resolution or mouse
[12:04] <jrib> slashme: that's what you need...
[12:04] <Neaai> slashme: ah you mean you want the ip as the world sees it ?
[12:04] <gizmo> tavi----,  what version are you use?
[12:04] <clearmoments> WAN ip?
[12:04] <slashme> Neaai, exactly.
[12:04] <clearmoments> http://www.whatismyip.org
[12:04] <kley> my wireless worked perfectly  on 8.04.1  , but since 8.10  i dint use  it , now i dosnt work
[12:04] <tavi----> hardy heron
[12:04] <Neaai> etan: with any application or anything speciffic ?
[12:05] <gizmo> tavi----,  not ubuntu version 8.10/
[12:05] <jrib> slashme: she needs to setup the router to forward ssh to the computer on the lan as well
[12:05] <tavi----> no
[12:05] <clearmoments> jrib: Exactly.
[12:05] <tavi----> hardy heron i´ve said
[12:05] <gizmo> tavi----,  sorry i dont know about that..
[12:05] <clearmoments> jrib: You're right, she needs to forward 22 on the router.
[12:05] <baz_> I am having a weird problem... just installed Mint 6 on my external (usb) 750gb harddrive - everything went well and when I rebooted the loader came up, grub looked like it was doing its thing then it interupts itself and gives an error 17: partition not found... I've been googling like crazy, changed menu.lst to different hd0, hd1, etc. but the problem persists - any ideas?
[12:05] <gizmo> hardy heron have terminal on it?
[12:05] <gein> jrib: the server version won't fire up X at all right?
[12:05] <slashme> clearmoments: OK, thanks.
[12:05] <tavi----> gizmo:  so....thanks ...for nothing
[12:05] <jrib> gein: correct, it shouldn't even be installed
[12:05] <clearmoments> slashme: np
[12:05] <slashme> jrib: thanks!
[12:05] <tavi----> why didn´t ask from the begining about version?
[12:05] <Neaai> slashme: hmmm. have you done this before, what you want to? I doubt you'd be able to do what you want, unless the router that does NAT for the debian box, does ip forwarding as well.
[12:06] <gizmo> !grub | baz_
[12:06] <tavi----> so do you know a sound issues channel?
[12:06] <gizmo> tavi----,  if i know..i will told you..but im still new..and im wiling to help ubuntu ...
[12:06] <baz_> I've searched the forums and google and the rest of the net!
[12:06] <tavi----> gizmo: so ask what version i use
[12:06] <tavi----> so do you know a sound issues channel?
[12:06] <slashme> Neaai: Never done it before.  I was kind of hoping it would be straightforward.
[12:07] <kley> potwak could you please look at  http://paste.ubuntu.com/89161/
[12:07] <gizmo> tavi----,  ok what os you use now..?
[12:07] <tavi----> i already raid...:) was a suggestion for you
[12:07] <Neaai> tavi----: you might want to see if there are issues with the driver of the soundcard type you have. Use google for that and check forums around.
[12:07] <tavi----> because you didn´t asked from the very beginning
[12:07] <gizmo> :)
[12:07] <Neaai> tavi----: as it seems there's no quick way for you for the moment to know what's happening and so is for us.
[12:08] <gizmo> tavi----,  because im new..and know nothing but try to help what i know..
[12:08] <tavi----> Neaai:  must be a sound problems dedicated channel here
[12:08] <Neaai> slashme: most probable you won't be able to. Do you have control of the adsl modem ?
[12:08] <Feddozz> hi all!! Does anyone use the ''resize to available screenplace'' compiz plugin?
[12:08] <tavi----> well but you don´t knwo about hardy heron
[12:08] <slashme> Neaai: It's a bit far away.
[12:08] <Neaai> tavi----: if there is I don't know about it.
[12:08] <Neaai> slashme: managing wise.
[12:09] <tavi----> well someone know all the channels in here?
[12:09] <slashme> Neaai: I'll be there on Thursday, then I'll figure it out.
[12:09] <tavi----> whatś about them?
[12:09] <tavi----> where i can find something
[12:09] <tavi----> ?
[12:09] <slashme> Neaai: A bit hard to talk a newbie through an operation I'm not familiar with over skype.
[12:09] <sky_> omfg my internet fail
[12:09] <slashme> Neaai: Better I go do it there.
[12:09] <Neaai> slashme: when you are there, see to check for any "port forwarding option". you have to enable that for for port 22 and direct it to whatever ip the debian box has.
[12:10] <slashme> Neaai: Yep, I'll be looking for that, thanks!
[12:10] <Neaai> slashme: no problem
[12:10] <gein> jrib: it seems to be the case I'm installing from a desktop iso, thanks!
[12:10] <potwak> kley: did you got the idea on how Mr. mikewhatever solve its problem?
[12:10] <sky_> Playing with the best die like the rest ...
[12:11] <tavi----> a first channel or a help channel exist?
[12:11] <potwak> kley: on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-321045.html
[12:11] <tavi----> like cservice on undernet?
[12:11] <jrib> gein: I should have said "was the installer an ncurses based one?" before then :)
[12:11] <Neaai> tavi----: most here, including me, are just other users like you. we can't know everything.
[12:12] <gein> jrib: probably, thanks for the help!
[12:12] <baz_> if you install on an external drive, say sdc, where do u place the bootloader, on sdc or sdc1,sdc2,etc.?
[12:12] <baz_> that is do u choose a partition or the whole drive?
[12:12] <Neaai> baz_: you want a bootloader on an external drive ?
[12:12] <gein> my machine has a AMD Opteron 165 CPU (64-bit).. should I choose the 64-bit version of ubuntu or is there any drawbacks by doing that?
[12:13] <Neaai> baz_: you could go with the mbr, that is the entire drive selection.
[12:13] <gordonjcp> morning
[12:13] <baz_> neaai: i think so, thats what i read in some how-to's but i am not an expert
[12:13] <gordonjcp> can anyone offer some advice on getting Compose keys working in Gutsy?  Everything seems to be set up correctly, but it Just Plain Doesn't Work
[12:13] <tavi----> ooo
[12:13] <Neaai> baz_: does your box support booting from external devices? if not, it's useless.
[12:14] <tavi----> and who is an ...official letś say like this
[12:14] <tavi----> ?
[12:14] <baz_> neaai: it does, after my install the pretty mint boot selection pops up
[12:14] <kley> potwak : you mean this It seems linux-restricted-modules also has firmware and (I guess) other "stuff" that ipw3945 needs to work correctly ...this ideea ?
[12:15] <potwak> kley: i think you should install the appropriate diver for your hardware to work.
[12:15] <Neaai> baz_: then I'd try the mbr way. master boot record, sdc in the example.
[12:15] <potwak> driver*
[12:16] <kley> potwak> can you help to find where is written how i do that ?
[12:16] <baz_> neaai: thats what i tried and the boot options pop-up after reboot, but then after waiting 5-10 seconds without doing anything i get an error 17: partition doesnt exists - how could it be that the menu appears then disappears - doesnt the fact that it apears in the first place mean the proper partition was found or is that not how it works
[12:17] <Neaai> baz_: hmmm. it must be anything with proper device numbering. Like as in, does it always show as sdc or someteimes even as sdd  ?
[12:18] <Lou_> If there are any Ubuntu networking experts here, would you please look at my questions in the networking channel. Thanks.
[12:19] <baz_> neaai: how can i check what its detected as without booting in?
[12:19] <potwak> kley: maybe the advice of Paulo79 would help.
[12:19] <potwak> kley: on this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-321045.html
[12:19] <Neaai> baz_: you could try to use other usb port. It's an usb device I presume ?
[12:19] <baz_> neaai: i tried manually changing (hd0,1) to every possible combination and even changed menu.lst to use UUIDs as i read in one article!
[12:19] <baz_> neaai: yes its usb
[12:20] <kley> potwak i am already tring , thanks man a lot
[12:20] <kley> *trying
[12:20] <Neaai> baz_: it's properly partitioned and does have a system installed, right ?
[12:20] <baz_> neaai: right
[12:20] <baz_> 0i am in it on liv cd right now (not this machine
[12:20] <clearmoments> kley: How is it working for you?
[12:21] <potwak> kley: its a great experience to solve that problem. you would be happy for that, i'm sure.
[12:21] <potwak> :)
[12:21] <onats> 4 gigs aint enough:(
[12:22] <potwak> clearmoments, kley: i'm leaving. have fun. got many things to do for now.
[12:22] <potwak> :)
[12:22] <Neaai> baz_: usually, when you change the refference of (hd0,1) to something else, you also need to change the root option accordingly
[12:22] <clearmoments> potwak: Alright, have a good one.
[12:22] <baz_> neaai: if i do fdisk -l the boot drive should be the one with a * under the boot column, correct? in my case now that is /dev/sdb1
[12:22] <clearmoments> :)
[12:22] <potwak> kley: Good luck!
[12:22] <potwak> clearmoments: bye bye
[12:22] <kley> potwak what means ii and rc  at the beging of line  ?
[12:23] <kley> :(
[12:23] <clearmoments> kley: Beginning of what line?
[12:23] <hspaans> kley: rc = removed, but config remains
[12:24] <Neaai> baz_: can you try to boot that disk on the box? you said you're writing from another system, or is it the same one with a liveCD ?
[12:24] <baz_> neaai: so in my menu.lst i should have (hd1, 0)
[12:24] <hspaans> kley: ii is fully installed, but the header of the dpkg output also tells that
[12:24] <baz_> neaai: i'm on my eeepc writing here so i can play with the other one
[12:24] <kley> on  trying this  dpkg -la | grep linux-restricted-modules
[12:24] <baz_> neaai: but it is another laptop
[12:25] <kley> so i need them all  . or just it says what i allreadi have
[12:25] <kley> ?
[12:25] <Neaai> baz_: ok, try to boot again and see what grub gives.
[12:25] <Revv> hello ppl
[12:25] <Neaai> baz_: you said it was error 15 ?
[12:26] <kley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/89172/ <clearmoments> ?
[12:26] <Revv> i just recompiled the alsa drivers but that doesnt work fine. Then i would like to reverse what i just did to compile an older version apparently stable. how do i do that?
[12:26] <baz_> neaai: booting again... error 17, partition not found
[12:26] <hspaans> kley: they're installed
[12:26] <Revv> can i just recompile them "on" the previous one, or do i have to clean up the mess a little?
[12:26] <BilllyJoe> identify
[12:26] <clearmoments> man dpkg
[12:27] <clearmoments> opppz
[12:27] <clearmoments> wrong window
[12:27] <clearmoments> lolz
[12:27] <FloodBot1> clearmoments: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <kley> i just cant understand ,what i need then :(
[12:27] <BilllyJoe> sorry, I do not understand how to do the auto identify... tryed the webpage but do not understand it.
[12:27] <hspaans> kley: don't ask the answer, but the question
[12:27] <Neaai> baz_: let me see what does that mean exactly
[12:28] <kley> hspaans  the answer is in the  question , if i knew what to ask for  from the begining  :(
[12:28] <clearmoments> Sorry Mr. FloodBot1.
[12:29] <gordonjcp> can anyone offer some advice on getting Compose keys working in Gutsy?  Everything seems to be set up correctly, but it Just Plain Doesn't Work
[12:29] <Neaai> baz_: get the grub prompt and:  find /boot/grub/stage1
[12:30] <baz_> neaai: ok, by find do u mean "cd"?
[12:30] <gein> is it possible to install ubuntu server using the S-video output? After choosing Install ubuntu server the screen stats to flicker a lot (and now I'm positive that I'm running ubuntu server :))
[12:30] <Neaai> baz_: no.  "find"
[12:31] <baz_> neaai: ok and by grub prompt should i press "e" to edit or "c" for command line :)
[12:31] <Neaai> baz_: c
[12:32] <baz_> neaai: i get (hd1,0)
[12:32] <clearmoments> kley: I don't know if its been answered, but rc means a package is installed but the configs remain: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/dpkg-what-does-a-status-of-rc-mean-355593/
[12:32] <Neaai> baz_: that's what your will put in menu.lst.  record that on a piece of paper.
[12:32] <baz_> done
[12:33] <Prabz> Hi , I 'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and KDE 4.1.3 . I find that after logging in again, Gajim doesn't start automatically whereas all other applications that were running before logout start automatically. How to set it right?
[12:33] <gein> it seems that the S-video output is swithced to 60Hz NTSC according to a forum thread on ubuntu forums
[12:33] <stapel> I am struggling to install fedora guest in virtualbox on a Ubuntu host? The screen is to big so some of the buttons in the install screen is hidden off screen and I can't get to them. Any ideas?
[12:33] <baz_> prabz: system > preferences > sessions add the command here
[12:34] <baz_> neaai: should i reboot into live cd and change menu.lst - also do i keep the brackets?
[12:34] <BillyJoe> how do I install the "Host USB Proxy Service"?
[12:34] <Neaai> baz_: hd1,0  translates to sdb1. that's what should go for  root=. as in   root=/dev/sdb1
[12:34] <gordonjcp> okay, last time I ask - can anyone help me get compose keys working in Gutsy?  I've read various things on the Ubuntu forums, and everything seems to be set up correctly, but it still doesn't work
[12:34] <kurt> stapel you can tab until the one you want should be selected (guess) then enter
[12:35] <Neaai> baz_: press escape to exit the prompt and then "e" to start editing the lines
[12:35] <kley> so rc  means no conflicting just  the config ?  am i right clearmoments  ?
[12:35] <stapel> thanx kurt...i'll give it a shot
[12:35] <Prabz> baz_,  well, I'm using KDE, it automatically saves the previous session.. But apparently it doesn't do the same with Gajim
[12:35] <clearmoments> kley: Apparently, yes.  I means the package is removed, but the configuration files remian.
[12:36] <clearmoments> It* excuse me.
[12:36] <gordonjcp> okay, presumably no-one knows or no-one is interested
[12:36] <Neaai> gordonjcp: most probably noone here knows. :)
[12:36] <baz_> neaai: i pressed 'e' on the first line and i have 'root' with a tab, should i change that to 'root=/dev/sdb1'
[12:36] <gordonjcp> Neaai: it's a pretty major shortcoming, really
[12:36] <SuNDeC> how to open Terminal by enter "terminal" instead of "gnome-terminal" after pressing alt-f2 ?
[12:37] <Neaai> baz_: what do you mean "root" with a tab ?
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Neaai: the annoying thing is that it worked in Hardy
[12:37] <Neaai> gordonjcp: personally I know nearly nothing of it :|
[12:37] <gordonjcp> but that's just what Ubuntu is like I suppose, full speed ahead with the shiny and never mind the regressions
[12:38] <FreeFull> Hello. I put my wireless settings in /etc/network/interfaces, but since I set up WPA DNS doesn't work (I can still connect to IP adresses) until I do iwconfig wlan1 essid Main key off && dhclient wlan1 as root. Can anybody help?
[12:38] <tiyowan> gordonjcp: What seems to be the problem?
[12:38] <gordonjcp> tiyowan: in Hardy, using the compose key to type accented characters worked.  In Gutsy, it does not work
[12:38] <baz_> neaai: i manually changed the firs line to 'root (hd1,0)' and i received the same error! I tried all combinations... what do u think of this: http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/If_your_installed_Mint_cannot_boot
[12:39] <DefineByte> Is there a command that I can use to turn a monitor off from the console (without X)?
[12:39] <Neaai> FreeFull: what do you get when you do:   cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:39] <Koordin> hi, i have a problem with wine, when i try to launch a program in it, it is lagging ; so i would want to launch it through the terminal with 'nice -n 0' but when i try "wine myprogram.exe" the program opens and closes just after
[12:39] <tiyowan> gordonjcp: Hmm..compose key?
[12:39] <FreeFull> Neaai: domain domain.com      and         nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:40] <gordonjcp> tiyowan: yes, compose key, the thing you press when you want to type accented characters, quite often Right Alt
[12:40] <baz_> neaai: it talks about the bios jumbling up the drives when different interfaces are used and to try using the uid - but when i tried that it said bad command or string or whatever as though i type jibberish
[12:40] <Koordin> so how can i open a program with wine with the terminal ?
[12:40] <FreeFull> gordonjcp: Strange, AltGr works fine for me
[12:41] <tiyowan> gordonjcp: I don't know how to fix that. I would try the forums, but they're down for some maintenance. :(
[12:41] <xeroz> ok. I have a question concerning editing the gtkrc-2.0 file that has been hurting my head for a while
[12:41] <gordonjcp> tiyowan: the forums don't help, as I've already mentioned
[12:41] <gordonjcp> tiyowan: it's set up exactly as the forums suggest
[12:41] <FreeFull> Neaai: any ideas?
[12:41] <Neaai> baz_: that article is quite right in what it says. I'd say it's just a matter of properly listing what is labeled how so the loader finds it and loads it.
[12:41] <xeroz> what style, and/or widgets do you use to change the drop down menu color?
[12:41] <Neaai> FreeFull: is those what you want ? Are those entries correct ?
[12:41] <clearmoments> Bye all. :)
[12:42] <FreeFull> Neaai: Yes
[12:42] <gordonjcp> it's very very annoying having to dual-boot just to use accented characters, but they work in Slackware so dual boot it is ;-)
[12:42] <FreeFull> Neaai: The router automatically redirects the requests to the dns server
[12:42] <Neaai> FreeFull: does the <IP_ADDRESS> properly resolve ? Is there a name server in that system with that ip ?
[12:43] <FreeFull> gordonjcp: Accented characters work fine in intrepid for me. æße→“ðnøeéǽ
[12:43] <gordonjcp> FreeFull: great, I'm not using Intrepid, I'm using Gutsy
[12:43] <gordonjcp> Intrepid is too buggy
[12:43] <FreeFull> Neaai: <IP_ADDRESS> is the router
[12:43] <Winkie> gordonjcp: i was about to praise the opposite :)
[12:43] <Winkie> intrepid works surprisingly well on my new tablet
[12:43] <gein> is there any parameters I can pass to the Install Ubuntu Server menu alternative at startup to change screen settings like update freq. and such?
[12:43] <Winkie> only 2 or 3 things don't really work
[12:43] <FreeFull> gordonjcp: The only thing I don't like about Intrepid is NetworkManager
[12:43] <gordonjcp> Winkie: Intrepid hasn't got usable audio support
[12:43] <Winkie> gordonjcp: it works for me, but i don't deny there are problems
[12:44] <tiyowan> gordonjcp: I would help, but I really don't know how.
[12:44] <Winkie> i should say, it works for me and i have a pretty offensively annoying chipset
[12:44] <baz_> neaai: so i tried putting the uid in menu.lst next to 'root' without quotes as the article mentions however the boot doesnt recognize that as an understandable address - its as though i typed 'xyzxyz' - is there a switch that i need to enable to define my drives using uid's rather than the 'hd' way?
[12:44] <gordonjcp> Winkie: pulseaudio just runs around making a mess of things
[12:44] <Winkie> but i set up my own pulse/default.pa
[12:44] <Winkie> gordonjcp: honestly, it can work with a small amount of work
[12:44] <gordonjcp> and there doesn't seem to be a way to not have pulseaudio at all
[12:44] <Winkie> gordonjcp: i was sat on my bed last night watching a tv show over wifi while streaming music to my main computer through pulseaudio
[12:44] <gordonjcp> yes, great, but I don't want pulseaudio
[12:44] <Winkie> gordonjcp: stop it starting?
[12:44] <gordonjcp> under any circumstances
[12:44] <FreeFull> gordonjcp: ALSA works for me
[12:44] <Winkie> that seemed to work a while ago
[12:44] <Koordin> hi, i have a problem with wine, when i try to launch a program in it, it is lagging ; so i would want to launch it through the terminal with 'nice -n 0' but when i try "wine myprogram.exe" the program opens and closes just after ; so how can i open a program with wine with the terminal ?
[12:45] <gordonjcp> Winkie: doesn't work now, that's why I switched back to Gutsy
[12:45] <Prabz> gordonjcp, ALSA isn't working
[12:45] <Winkie> gordonjcp: fair enough, may I ask why you don't want pulseaudio?
[12:45] <DefineByte> is there a console equivalent of xset dpms force off?
[12:45] <Neaai> baz_: root=UUID=xyzOFtheDiskHere   that's how the loader knows it's to use a uuid tag to find the disk.
[12:45] <gordonjcp> Winkie: because it gets in the way of jack
[12:45] <Winkie> DefineByte: that is a console command?
[12:45] <Prabz> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn''t
[12:45] <Winkie> gordonjcp: ah that's understandable, i have little experience with jack
[12:45] <bullgard4> '~apt-file search automount; autofs:/usr/share/man/man8/automount.8.gz'. Nautilus does not list /usr/share/man/man8/automount.8.gz. What is the reason?
[12:45] <Neaai> baz_: but you have to know that it is indeed that the label of your disk. Each disk has a unique label.
[12:46] <DefineByte> Winkie: I mean something that doesn't require X
[12:46] <onats> what application can i use to have the system monitors be on my desktop permanently/
[12:46] <baz_> neaai: awesome i will try that
[12:46] <Prabz> I'm using NVIDIA ALC
[12:46] <Winkie> gordonjcp: set up a pulse default.pa so it does not clobber your alsa devices, get it to hook into JACK
[12:46] <tavi----> Neaai: i observe something....music on ther sites work
[12:46] <Winkie> DefineByte: ah, i'm not sure in that case! you could enumerate the ACPI tree but i wouldn't know for sure
[12:46] <baz_> neaai: my menu.lst doesn't use equals signs, should i put them in?
[12:46] <tavi----> Neaai:  vlc doesn´t hear anything
[12:46] <Neaai> tavi----: sites ?
[12:46] <gordonjcp> Winkie: tried that, but it's too slow going through pulseaudio
[12:46] <tavi----> Neaai: web sites
[12:46] <FreeFull> Neaai: Any ideas why it doesn't work on boot?
[12:46] <gordonjcp> Winkie: I want same-day service from my sound card
[12:47] <tavi----> whit vlc i can´t hear movies sound
[12:47] <Winkie> gordonjcp: I can't make any guarantees, but pulseaudio should not slow down your sound by any apprecible amount
[12:47] <Winkie> gordonjcp: i don't know enough about jack or your setup to be able to help you though
[12:47] <gordonjcp> Winkie: well it's got unacceptable latency, that's the thing
[12:47] <FreeFull> gordonjcp: Does it work with Slackware?
[12:47] <DefineByte> Winkie: I fear that would be beyond me. :( :)
[12:47] <Neaai> FreeFull: I can't think of a solution. i've had cases where the wireless stuff would mess my resolv.conf file but for you, you said it's proper so idk.
[12:47] <FreeFull> The sound
[12:47] <baz_> my favorite thing in the world is how xp updates itself then nags me for eternity to reboot - u?
[12:48] <FreeFull> Neaai: It only happens with WPA
[12:48] <gordonjcp> FreeFull: what, compose keys?  Yes, it's just a PITA having to reboot into Slack when I want to type stuff up
[12:48] <Neaai> baz_: the format is:  root=(entry here). You need the =
[12:48] <Winkie> DefineByte: i'll have a quick google for you
[12:48] <FreeFull> gordonjcp: No, the sound
[12:48] <gordonjcp> FreeFull: haven't tried it, I haven't got the audio software installed in the Slackware partition
[12:49] <Neaai> FreeFull: I'm out of ideas in that regard.
[12:49] <jetscreamer> hey can i come in here and troll just like ppl do from here in #debian ?
[12:49] <FreeFull> Hello. I put my wireless settings in /etc/network/interfaces, but since I set up WPA DNS doesn't work (I can still connect to IP adresses) until I do iwconfig wlan1 essid Main key off && dhclient wlan1 as root. Can anybody help?
[12:49] <FreeFull> jetscreamer: no
[12:49] <Neaai> tavi----: can you play mp3 music for example ?
[12:49] <jetscreamer> aww
[12:49] <DefineByte> Winkie: thanks. I've found 'setterm -powersave powerdown' but that doesn't appear to work. Maybe I'm misunderstanding its purpose
[12:49] <b1n42y> hi all, can someone tell me how to get amarok into my notifications area, i have a little window on desktop instead ..
[12:49] <tavi----> no
[12:49] <tiyowan> !coc | jetscreamer
[12:49] <tavi----> i tried some music
[12:49] <FreeFull> jetscreamer: Try trolling in ##politics
[12:49] <tavi----> but don´t hear anything
[12:50] <Neaai> tavi----: maybe the mixer, maybe the decoders. It's getting very vague from here.
[12:50] <Winkie> DefineByte: ah, it doesn't turn your monitor off?
[12:50] <gordonjcp> oh well, thanks anyway
[12:50] <tavi----> Neaai: so none can say better?
[12:51] <DefineByte> Winkie: Unfortuately not.
[12:51] <Neaai> tavi----: your system is 32bit or 64 ?
[12:51] <FreeFull> DefineByte: Does it turn the computer off?
[12:51] <tavi----> aaa
[12:52] <tavi----> itś a core2 duo
[12:52] <DefineByte> FreeFull: I get an error message when it's run: 'cannot (un)set powersave mode'
[12:52] <Winkie> DefineByte: are you running it as root / would the -blank option suffice?
[12:52] <tavi----> how i see what i have in pc?
[12:52] <FreeFull> DefineByte: Did you try running it as root?
[12:52] <Neaai> tavi----: you mention vlc all right. But what about totem. Does that play sound ?
[12:53] <Neaai> tavi----: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:53] <DefineByte> Winkie, Freefull: root makes no difference. Blanking isn't really what I'm after.
[12:53] <tavi----> Neaai:  totem can´t play movies so i abandon him
[12:53] <tavi----> and i installed vlc
[12:53] <Neaai> tavi----: but sound? does it work there ?
[12:54] <Winkie> DefineByte: i'm afraid i don't know of any other option really, sorry
[12:54] <leafw> hi all. In an xterm I can type alt+i to get an é, alt+m to get an í, etc. Is there any possible way to do so in a gnome-terminal?
[12:54] <leafw> gnome-terminal is so nice, but I can't figure out this .. the "Terminal - Encoding" has no effect towards this. The disabling of alt for menu shortcuts in "Edit - Keyboard shortcuts.." neither ...
[12:54] <hspaans> tavi----: you have installed all the correct gstreamer packages?
[12:55] <DefineByte> Winkie: Is it the right command to use? If so I guess I'll just have to see what's going wrong.
[12:55] <tavi----> Neaai: i didn´t try
[12:55] <Winkie> leafw: hold down shift + ctrl, type u then the hex values i think
[12:55] <tavi----> hspaans: what?
[12:55] <gein> I was able to fix my video corruption by setting fb=false in the boot options
[12:55] <Winkie> DefineByte: it looks to be, i must say i've never really bothered, all my servers have no monitors :p
[12:55] <Winkie> leafw: 晦
[12:55] <Winkie> for example
[12:56] <DefineByte> Winkie: Heh. Mine's not a server, just a very low powered desktop. :D
[12:56] <hspaans> tavi----: gstreamer does the decoding for audio/video, not totem
[12:56] <leafw> Winkie: thanks, that works, but is terribly difficult to type
[12:56] <Neaai> gein: I'd think framebuffers have meaning in text consoles. under X they're irrelevant.
[12:56] <Winkie> DefineByte: that's gotta be pretty low power if you're limited to terminal only :o
[12:57] <Winkie> leafw: i think there are shortcuts to most accented characters, but this is the generic unicode input
[12:57] <kurt> tavi---- tried amarok
[12:57] <gein> Neaai: I'm installing ubuntu server so it might make sense
[12:57] <DefineByte> Winkie: Well, it's not \that\ low powered but I'm just trying to eek out everyting I can. It's an AMD Geode LX.
[12:57] <tavi----> what?
[12:57] <tavi----> i didn´t read last post
[12:58] <leafw> Winkie: in an xterm, alt+`=à alt+i=é, alt+m=í, ... it's easy
[12:58] <Winkie> DefineByte: i see, you'd be surprised how little load an X session with fluxbox adds, but it does very much depend on what you're doing
[12:58] <Neaai> tavi----: gstreamer provides the decoders. Think of them as a bunch of .dll files in windows.
[12:58] <tavi----> aha
[12:58] <tavi----> so whatś the problem whit them
[12:58] <tavi----> ?
[12:58] <Neaai> tavi----: you might not have them installed yet.
[12:58] <onats> hi, when i play videos (mkv) on vlc, i get flickering videos
[12:59] <tiyowan> onats: Using an ATI card are you?
[12:59] <onats> tiyowan, yup
[12:59] <DefineByte> Winkie: Thanks. I may well try X at some point but at the moment the terminal seems to be offering everything I need (apart from turning the monitor off!). :)
[12:59] <onats> tiyowan, known issue?
[12:59] <tiyowan> onats: That's a known bug. Can't do anything about it.
[13:00] <onats> :(
[13:00] <tiyowan> onats: Type "metacity --replace" to view videos properly.
[13:00]  * hspaans has an ATI and I see no flickering
[13:00] <DefineByte> FreeFull: thanks as well. :)
[13:00] <onats> tiyowan, what does that do?
[13:00] <Neaai> onats: you could check how mplayer behaves with those files.
[13:00] <tiyowan> hspaans: Which card/drivers/ubuntu version?
[13:00] <rdz> is it possible to enable two-finger scrolling on synaptics touchpads?
[13:00] <Winkie> DefineByte: sorry i couldn't help!
[13:00] <DefineByte> Winkie: A+ for effort. :D
[13:01] <tavi----> Neaai: after a search on the internet i found something related to the problem
[13:01] <Winkie> DefineByte: i don't know enough about low level APM/ACPI :(
[13:01] <fantomas> Hi all. I have problem with connecting to a remote Windows XP station where I have root account. I do it with Nautilus <IP_ADDRESS>. It shows an empty screen and doesn't ask me forlogin. I tried to enter address manually like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- but this doesn't help, it continues to display empty screen. Any ideas?
[13:01] <tavi----> let me show you a website whit the problem similar
[13:01] <tiyowan> onats: It's a problem with ATI and Compiz. If you want a GUI way to do it. Install the Compiz Fusion icon. Then you can switch between metacity and compiz from your system tray.
[13:01] <tavi----> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/54630
[13:02] <Winkie> rdz: it usually is yes, it's an option in your xorg config but I can't remember it right now
[13:02] <hspaans> tiyowan: X300, the one from X.org, Linux/BSD/Solaris
[13:02] <baz_> neaai: like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/89189/
[13:02] <Winkie> rdz: something like Option "TwoFingerScroll" 1
[13:02] <DefineByte> Winkie: Nevermind. Thanks again. bye. :)
[13:02] <Winkie> rdz: i know it's on the forums somewhere :o
[13:02] <onats> tiyowan, ok thanks for the tip
[13:02] <rdz> Winkie, thanks a lot.... it's good to know, that someone has already got it working
[13:03] <Winkie> rdz: it's driver supported as far as i know, just there are not any amazing GUIs for this sort of thing yet :)
[13:03] <tiyowan> hspaans: Really? I'm running X1400, proprietary drives (flxgr), and intrepid. And I get flickering.
[13:04] <rdz> Winkie, ah ok... i just tried gsynaptics and it doesn't provide any options for two-finger stuff... so i was disappointed by thinkoing, that it may not be possible at all...
[13:04] <hspaans> tiyowan: welcome to proprietary drivers
[13:04] <tiyowan> hspaans: What distro are you using?
[13:04] <rdz> Winkie,i check the forums again,as soon as they are back online
[13:04] <tiyowan> hspaans: Heh. Yes.
[13:05] <hspaans> tiyowan: Debian/Ubuntu/FreeBSD/Solaris/OpenSolaris
[13:05] <Neaai> baz_: let me check
[13:06] <Neaai> baz_: grub find earlier was hd1,0  ?
[13:06] <Winkie> rdz: no problem
[13:06] <tiyowan> hspaans: Thanks for the info.
[13:06] <Winkie> i don't suppose anyone knows how to control compiz through dbus do they? I'm trying to zoom out a window remotely :)
[13:06] <baz_> to be honest i don't know because i played around with that value while reading the forums
[13:06] <fantomas> Hi all. I have problem with connecting to a remote Windows XP station where I have root account. I do it with Nautilus <IP_ADDRESS>. It shows an empty screen and doesn't ask me forlogin. I tried to enter address manually like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- but this doesn't help, it continues to display empty screen. Any ideas?
[13:07] <Neaai> baz_: lol. I told you to write it in a piece of paper :p
[13:07] <baz_> oh the one to write yes
[13:07] <disposable> what does gnome use to suspend a computer? it does not suspend my computer and i'd like to play with it. it's not uswsusp.
[13:07] <Neaai> baz_: ok
[13:07] <baz_> neaai: i thought u meant when i first installed
[13:08] <Neaai> baz_: how have you partitioned that disk ?
[13:08] <hspaans> tiyowan: most of the time the Xorg driver is sufficient unless you want 3 frames/sec more to display your terminal
[13:08] <niels_> moin moin xD
[13:08] <Neaai> baz_: I'm asuming the section "complete file" is the relevant entries you have now, or not ?
[13:09] <baz_> neaai: in gparted it shows: /dev/sdb1 (ex3, boot flag), /dev/sdb2 (extended), /dev/sdb5 (swap), /dev/sdb6 (ext3), /dev/sdb7 (ext3)
[13:10] <orange_tang> hey all
[13:10] <orange_tang> anyone with advice, i'm just getting into ubuntu 8.10
[13:10] <baz_> neaai: ya the top part is the relevant but in ase u wanted to see the whole file i put it in there
[13:10] <Neaai> baz_: what do you mount where ?
[13:10] <kane77> hi, can anyone try to ping sk.archive.ubuntu.com if it is down, or it's my network problem
[13:11] <fikel> hi. i need help with ubuntu
[13:11] <baz_> neaai: i'm in live cd so it mounts it wierd to: /media/disk-1, media/disk-2, /media/disk (strangely my last parition has the cleanest name)
[13:11] <baz_> neaaai: the boot one is /media/disk-1
[13:12] <fikel> plz, can someone please help me!
[13:12] <baz_> neaai: i know what u mean, i have /, swap, /home, /data
[13:12] <orange_tang> fikel, what're you trying to do? no promises here
[13:12] <tiyowan> !ask | fikel
[13:12] <orange_tang> aha
[13:12] <orange_tang> help
[13:12] <Neaai> baz_: you have separate partitions for ... ah.  And /boot  ?
[13:12] <orange_tang> yay
[13:12] <error404notfound> how I can I download a website completely using a different user agent? wger -rU "LinkChecker" http://www.thatsite.com ?
[13:12] <baz_> neaai: no boot
[13:12] <Guest87511> how can I make xchat open urls I click on I get - There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location.
[13:12] <baz_> neaai: i heard no need for that these days???
[13:12] <jtisme> kane77 fire fox does not find that URL
[13:13] <Neaai> baz_: so your  / is what has the bootable flag ?
[13:13] <baz_> neaai: yes
[13:13] <fikel> Is dare any oder place i can get help with ubuntu? (not forums
[13:13] <kane77> jtisme, I'm not sure if there should be webpage there, for me if I try to ping it it times out
[13:13] <orange_tang> ubuntu 8.10: i've installed a few games to entertain but many seem to not run. they just black the screen for a split second then nothing happens. is it me, the games, or something else entirely/
[13:13] <FearMoth> I'm trying to install Moblock, but I can't connect to tbg.iblocklist.com or www.bluetack.co.uk .. is there any reason why I can't ping these sites or the moblock config can't download the blocklists?
[13:14] <baz_> neaai: looking at the file again it seems i may have screwed up... maybe i am supposed to leave the (hd1,0) and replace 'root=/dev/sdc1'?
[13:14] <fikel> if anyone on skype tell me ur name and il help
[13:14] <Neaai> baz_: to make sure, the grub find command that generated hd1,0  was when you booted the system with the intended external disk, correct ?
[13:14] <jtisme> kane77, not sure but ff does not find it
[13:14] <baz_> neaai: yes
[13:14] <orange_tang> the games were from synaptic
[13:14] <Neaai> baz_: that's what I was thinking. those /dev/sdc1 should be /dev/sdb1
[13:14] <jtisme> kane77, dig finds a dns address but ff no find
[13:14] <soreau> orange_tang: Opengl applications require graphics drivers to be installed correctly to work right
[13:14] <baz_> neaai: and it translates well even now right since hd1,0 = sdb1
[13:15] <orange_tang> soreau: is there a way to check on that?
[13:15] <kane77> jtisme, looking at for instance us.archive.ubuntu.com there should be file listing..
[13:15] <baz_> neaai: so forget the uuid thing one more time?
[13:15] <soreau> orange_tang: 'glxinfo|grep direct' might give a hint
[13:15] <orange_tang> soreau: i had issues with monitor resolution loading too
[13:15] <tiyowan> orange_tang: What card have you got?
[13:15] <baz_> neaai: maybe try it as a last resort after this
[13:15] <Neaai> baz_:  lines 179, 185, 190  and 195 stay as are.
[13:15] <xeroz> ok seriously. where is the source that determines what usplash theme you use?
[13:15] <orange_tang> soreau: ... terminal, right? not so hot at that yet
[13:16] <xeroz> because i have been copying and pasting and It still shows the damn orange one
[13:16] <orange_tang> tiyowan: no idea. just set this system up
[13:16] <onats> tiyowan, where can i switch between compiz and metacity in the compizconfig manager?
[13:16] <bullgard4> '~apt-file search automount; autofs:/usr/share/man/man8/automount.8.gz'. Nautilus does not list /usr/share/man/man8/automount.8.gz. What is the reason?
[13:17] <Neaai> baz_: and that's the only format those lines should be, no "=" signs. The equal sign applies to the other entries on the next lines, the kernel lines.
[13:17] <bullgard4> '~apt-file search automount; autofs:/usr/share/man/man8/automount.8.gz'. Nautilus listet /usr/share/man/man8/automount.8.gz nicht auf. Ursache?
[13:17] <orange_tang> soreau: i copy pasted that to terminal, and got one error, and several "could not find"'s
[13:17] <tiyowan> onats: You can't do it from there, frinend. Go to Applications -> Add/Remove Programs and install the Compiz Fusion icon. Then you should be able to switch from your system tray.
[13:17] <AidanPryde> hi, Quick Question: I installed a new 600GB harddisk and partioned it using GParted to ext3 (and NTFS) and there is gap in free space. Gparted says the ext3 has 302.11GB unused, but Ubuntu only says there are 282,6GB free. The NTFS partition is fine (equal numbers) why the gap?
[13:18] <xeroz> does anyone know when the ubuntu forums will be back up?
[13:18] <Neaai> baz_: also, during all these tries, use the same usb port.
[13:18] <soreau> orange_tang: Without the tick marks?
[13:18] <FreeFull> AidanPryde: By default some of ext3 partitions is reserved for a single user
[13:18] <onats> tiyowan, ok thanks
[13:18] <fikel> If you need help on Ubuntu, chat to this skype name, the.ubuntu.help.line
[13:18] <tiyowan> AidanPryde: I'd go with GParted's numbers.
[13:19] <AidanPryde> a single user?
[13:19] <baz_> neaai: alright, i am trying it - and u said to change /dev/sdc1 to /dev/sdb1 right?
[13:19] <AidanPryde> how can I free that space? There won't be a system installed to that partition
[13:19] <Neaai> baz_: that's what it seems from there, yea
[13:19] <orange_tang> soreau: yes, if you mean what i think you mean
[13:19] <orange_tang> soreau: little semi-quotes
[13:19] <soreau> yes
[13:20] <tiyowan> xeroz: Says two hours.
[13:20] <fikel> UBUNTU HELP ON SKYPE! contact the.ubuntu.help.line on Skype by chat
[13:20] <jtisme> AidanPryde, the single user root, you dont free it it is part of the ext3 partition
[13:20] <soreau> orange_tang: What does 'lspci|grep VGA' say?
[13:20] <Neaai> orange_tang: got reminded of Zaphod Beeblebrox whith those "i think you think you know what I think" :D
[13:20] <orange_tang> soreau: hey that's useful and cool!@
[13:21] <baz_> neaai: hmm Error 11: unrecognized device string - looking it up - maybe no brackets around hd1, 0?
[13:21] <orange_tang> neaai: love that! it's been one of those days, too
[13:21] <FearMoth> Can anyone else ping iblocklist.com ? For some reason I can view their site in firefox, but can't ping it or download the blocklists with the moblock config.
[13:21] <AidanPryde> kthxbye to everyone :)
[13:21] <Neaai> orange_tang: hehe. I have the book in hardcover too, appart from the movie
[13:21] <orange_tang> soreau: i suppose i can't copy/paste from terminal, can i?
[13:21] <orange_tang> soreau:  nm, 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
[13:22] <tiyowan> FearMoth: No-go on the ping.
[13:22] <soreau> orange_tang: Now go to Sys>Admin>Hardware Drivers. Does it show an available driver installed?
[13:22] <orange_tang> soreau: i blame my father for handing me this, the last one was worse. i learned how to replace a bios battery though
[13:22] <soreau> lol
[13:22] <Neaai> baz_: could be yes. get rid of lines similar to what you have in the paste line 30.
[13:22] <FearMoth> tiyowan: thanks, at least i know it's not me now
[13:23] <orange_tang> soreau: it says nothing proprietary is installed.
[13:23] <tiyowan> FearMoth: np
[13:23] <orange_tang> soreau: took a while to figure out that was the problem, though!
[13:23] <soreau> hmm
[13:24] <baz_> neaai: very strange but my changes didn't refresh into the boot loader when i am sure i saved - regardless i manually edited the boot by pressinng 'e' with the changes we made and now i am getting the same error 17
[13:24] <orange_tang> neaai: i used to have the hardcover, fake-bible looking copy, but it got stolen. Twice.  I was having issues earlier getting the site to load. prob just me, though.
[13:26] <xiamx> ATI radeon 9200SE has 128MB ram, ubuntu only detect  16MB, how to fix it ?
[13:26] <orange_tang> soreau: hmm. nvidia in general?
[13:26] <Neaai> spash*
[13:26] <soreau> orange_tang: No, that particular model
[13:26] <Neaai> splash*  (d'uhh)
[13:26] <Neaai> orange_tang: was it black? the cover ?
[13:26] <tiyowan> ardchoille's right. Forums are up.
[13:27] <soreau> orange_tang: and if 'glxinfo' is giving error messages, that's not good necessarily
[13:27] <orange_tang> neaai: yes, with gold edging
[13:27] <Neaai> orange_tang: lol. Exactly
[13:27] <soreau> orange_tang: Usually, you would install graphics drivers but looking at nvidia.com, I don't see anything 'TNT' listed
[13:27] <orange_tang> soreau: oh please don't give me the bad news!
[13:27] <orange_tang> soreau: :(
[13:28] <soreau> Maybe someone else knows more, I'm an ATI guy ;)
[13:28] <LifeOfTheSpectru> Hi everyone, I have a question. =]
[13:28] <nck> what is the dpkg command to reconfigure grub?
[13:28] <orange_tang> soreau: i'm a "free" kinda guy. broke college students often are
[13:28] <soreau> xiamx: What makes you think it's only detecting 16MB?
[13:29] <tiyowan> soreau: Maybe envy?
[13:29] <soreau> Ugh. No.
[13:29] <baz_> neaai: uuid didn't work either :( what was the string you told me to "find" to get hd1?
[13:29] <soreau> I wouldn't suggest envy personally
[13:29] <orange_tang> soreau: i googled it, and i got a forums question that has gone unanswered for a while. i may just be screwed
[13:29] <xiamx> soreau: sudo hwinfo
[13:29] <Neaai> baz_: at the grub prompt, press "c" and then:  find /boot/grub/stage1
[13:29] <LifeOfTheSpectru> I am about to install Ubuntu Hardy Heron, and I've already made an (admittadly small) partition, but It's big enough, I was wondering if you can install Ubuntu on to a partition, or do you have to make one during the instillation?
[13:29] <soreau> orange_tang: Oh, yes google is a good place to start reading
[13:30] <baz_> neaai: it changed!!! what does that mean
[13:30] <tiyowan> LifeOfTheSpectru: You can install onto a partition.
[13:30] <orange_tang> soreau: my google-fu astounds many. not the least of which is myself, at times.
[13:30] <baz_> neaai: i didnt change usb ports
[13:30] <orange_tang> soreau: ya know, like kung-fu? :)
[13:30] <LifeOfTheSpectru> Ok, thanks! Is there anything I should know before I start?
[13:30] <baz_> neaai: now its hd0,0
[13:30] <soreau> xiamx: What is the problem you're having exactly?
[13:31] <tiyowan> !hcl | LifeOfTheSpectru <- Check to see whether your hardware is compatible.
[13:31] <orange_tang> soreau: thanks for the help anyway, man
[13:31] <xiamx> xiamx: My ATI card has 128MB videoram, but ubuntu only recognize 16MB
[13:31] <orange_tang> soreau: and the lesson in terminal usage being awesome.
[13:31] <Neaai> baz_: pff. the bios messes up the numbering for some reasons. I've seen people mention things about some sata related settigns, legacy or not-legacy and whatnot. I can't be sure.
[13:32] <tiyowan> !hcl | LifeOfTheSpectru <- Check to see whether your hardware is compatible.
[13:32] <tiyowan> orange_tang: You need to get the nvidia drivers for that card. Old card that one.
[13:32] <LifeOfTheSpectru> I have the minimum specs I know (I saw the table on Wikipedia xD,) so I'll go install it, and I'll be back on Ubuntu! With me luck!
[13:32] <soreau> xiamx: Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what's going on, or pastebin that file so we can look at it
[13:32] <baz_> neaai: i am in for the first time now!! thank you
[13:32] <tiyowan> orange_tang: You'll need to install manually install the drivers, plus possibly do some x.org conf. Google's your friend.
[13:32] <orange_tang> tiyowan: free happens like that. do they exist free? that's all i'm really worried about
[13:33] <baz_> neaai: so should i just run that command everytime i boot because i have a retarded bios?
[13:33] <Neaai> baz_: you're welcome. yours is just an issue of proper sequence numbering. You solve that, you're good to go for any other times.
[13:33] <soreau> tiyowan: On nvidia.com, where do you get drivers for tnt cards?
[13:33] <orange_tang> tiyowan: i mean, the drivers = free?
[13:33] <jagadeesh_> anyone resolved this error? "ffmpeg: symbol lookup error: ffmpeg: undefined symbol: ffm_nopts"
[13:33] <xiamx> soreau: ok
[13:33] <tiyowan> soerau, orange_tang: Hang on...lemme check.
[13:34] <soreau> orange_tang: Yes the drivers are free even though nvidia drivers are proprietary
[13:34] <soreau> They are 'free', but not open source
[13:34] <orange_tang> tiyowan: we already did some fiddling with xorg (i think it was that?) they ended up copy-pasting meppis' video something to this one, because meppis did better, but i hate kde with a passion.
[13:34] <orange_tang> soreau: while FOSS=awesome, free = pretty darn close
[13:34] <Neaai> baz_: that's the long and painish way, but it's still better than having nothing. See to learn about your bios more if you can and what can be done do have persistent (or so to call them) sequence numbers across reboots.
[13:35] <soreau> heh
[13:35] <dev12341234> I have a 28" viewsonic screen running at 1920x1200, and an nvidia 9800GT - all runs fine. Vista needed the latest nvidia driver to support this monitor
[13:35] <dev12341234> When I enable restricted drivers, two things happen
[13:35] <tavi----> what does autoremove and autoclean do
[13:35] <tavi----> ?
[13:35] <dev12341234> the gamma gets knocked out, and the screen is very dark
[13:35] <dev12341234> the second thing is the same as what happened on vista, the screen is zoomed... it gets the right reslution but dirplsyas it nicorewnt
[13:36] <orange_tang> soreau: if i could, i'd even try rockbox or otherwise fiddling with my (ill-conceived) purchase of a iPod. but, it's the first nano they put firmware DRM (or something like that) on, so no-go
[13:36] <fsufitch> hey. i got a simple-ish compiz issue. if i put compiz in my gnome sessions list, it does not run on startup, instead putting all my windows without management or decoration. but then, if i run it from an xterm, everything runs fine. am i missing something that's happening as a gnome session launcher?
[13:36] <tiyowan> soreau: This is confusing; all it says here is to install the nividia legacy drivers. :(
[13:36] <soreau> Then maybe that's what he needs
[13:36] <orange_tang> tiyowan: legacy?
[13:36] <soreau> Ah yes, I see tnt now
[13:37] <soreau> orange_tang: Go to nvidia.com and select Driver Downloads
[13:37] <orange_tang> soreau: shhhh don't tell i'm a she.
[13:37] <tiyowan> soreau: Yep.
[13:37]  * Neaai overheared that
[13:37] <dev12341234> that was meant to say 'but it displays it incorrectly
[13:38] <dschulz> anyone also bitten by bug #309851  ?    (linux restricted modules 2.6.27-11 package missing)
[13:38] <soreau> orange_tang: Ok, I wont tell. Then select Legacy from the drop down list and then select your tnt card from the list and your architecture, ie. Linux 32 if you have a 32 bit machine
[13:38] <dev12341234> not only has the manufacturer *(*$($ up a keyboard I used to buy, and made it spongy (same model, now spongy and unusable) but this nvidia thing is nanoying
[13:38]  * delcoyote hi
[13:39] <xiamx> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/89203/   it's using radeon driver (I think it's the opensource one), should I install manufecture's driver?
[13:39] <soreau> no
[13:39] <sdlwof> are the alternate cd's bootable?
[13:39] <Neaai> sdlwof: yes
[13:39] <orange_tang> soreau: is there a good place to get a quick rundown of IRC code? anything like MUDs or WOW or whatever?
[13:39] <dev12341234> Why is ubuntu showing a google custom search?
[13:40] <soreau> orange_tang: no idea
[13:40] <orange_tang> soreau: just curious.
[13:40] <sdlwof> Neaai, any reason it won't boot,but a normal desktop cd will boot?
[13:40] <dev12341234> that is completely broken, why would one OS have a different google? how pointless is that - is it a money thing? (I realise it is a default)
[13:40] <dev12341234> thus can be changed
[13:40] <white-sheep> dev12341234, Yeah.   If not related to maybe the disk was not correctly written/burned.
[13:41] <cumulus007> does anyone know how to stream a v4l webcam with vlc?
[13:41] <tiyowan> dev12341234: Um...you can change it?
[13:41] <sdlwof> md5sums match
[13:42] <white-sheep> dev12341234 -- You can change it.
[13:42] <dev12341234> tiyowan, Um... you can read what I said about knowing it was a default and, Um... being able to change it?
[13:42] <dev12341234> Um... << you are useful in this world
[13:42] <JessicaParker> hi can anyone assist with root log in please ?
[13:42] <JessicaParker> i need to apply a patch in a  www file
[13:42] <Neaai> sdlwof: I've had a hell of a time with a disk I burned in my pc, and that wouldn't boot my pc. But it would boot any other comp.
[13:42] <cumulus007> JessicaParker: begin yout command with sudo
[13:42] <JessicaParker> but am in this location
[13:42] <JessicaParker> root@abc-laptop:/home/abc#
[13:42] <tiyowan> dev12341234: Right.
[13:42] <dev12341234> white-sheep, spectacular deduction. What helped you? The part where I said 'obviously' previously, or  your immense intellect. Now, since the argument isn't about whether you can change it, why would that even enter into the conversation?
[13:42] <sdlwof> man ,wtf....i need an alternate, don't think a normal disc will install with 128mb...
[13:43] <JessicaParker> i cant get to the www or var files using this ?
[13:43] <soreau> xiamx: (II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=131072K, accessible=262144K (PCI BAR=262144K)
[13:43] <dev12341234> my point is - 'users' will get disconcerted - it looks too different from google, and they might not realise why
[13:43] <JessicaParker> any ideas of commands thatnks
[13:43] <white-sheep> dev12341234 -- Don't cry over a spilled milk.
[13:43] <soreau> xiamx: (--) RADEON(0): Mapped VideoRAM: 131072 kByte (64 bit DDR SDRAM)
[13:43] <Neaai> sdlwof: well if you have one you could try it. If it fails, it will do so since the beginning stages of the installation.
[13:43] <soreau> xiamx: So it is not ubuntu but hwinfo that is detecting incorrectly
[13:43] <dev12341234> white-sheep, no I am crying over my 28" monitor having some issue with nvidia card and taking resolution but 'zooming' it
[13:44] <xiamx> soreau:  ok got it thanks
[13:44] <soreau> xiamx: This is why I ask you, what are you ultimately trying to do
[13:44] <dev12341234> On Vista (yeah it came with it, I wanted to grab a computer quick, go figure) I updated the nvidia driver it fixed the issue - BUT VISTA had the exact same issue
[13:45] <dev12341234> You can see the middle 85% of the screen, zoomed, and the mouse goes off all 4 edges
[13:45] <JessicaParker> hey i really need some assistance with root log in if someone can help thanks
[13:45] <white-sheep> dev12341234 -- I'm only here for social // to help people if I can -- Check your resolution -- Is it same resolution as you expected it would be for your said monitor?
[13:45] <dev12341234> white-sheep, and the issue isn't me whining about the custom search, it is just a direct criticism with reasoning, I don't care either way, but it will annoy users
[13:45] <Neaai> dev12341234: I've seen that happen too. The screen would be as it should only with one certain resolution and that was it.
[13:45] <dev12341234> white-sheep, no everything is ok, as I said
[13:46] <white-sheep> dev12341234 -- Good. ;)
[13:46] <dev12341234> it takes the resolution, and works - in fact, takes all resolutions - same thing happened with vista - sets resolution, but image is displayed 110% too big, zoomed from center
[13:46] <dev12341234> upgrading driver on vista helped - googling doesn't
[13:47] <soreau> orange_tang: Now that I think about it, the nvidia legacy drivers might be installable from ubuntu repos, not sure though it wont hurt to install from nvidia.com, but yes, just sh NVIDIA installer yada yada and make sure the Driver in the Device section of xorg.conf is set to "nvidia" before restarting X
[13:47] <Neaai> dev12341234: most probably is a driver issue then.
[13:47] <moza> hello, i need help about the sound on ubuntu 8.04
[13:47] <blame> Ubuntu 8.10 installed nvidia drivers and after reboot my monitor turns off, can youone help me assess the problem?
[13:47] <Neaai> moza: have you checked the mixer settings ?
[13:47] <orange_tang> soreau: ok i may need some help in a few minutes with xorg, but let's see how far i get first
[13:48] <levidos> hello
[13:48] <moza> Neaai, i don't know how to check the mixer settings, how should they look like and where can i find them?
[13:48] <levidos> a lot of hosts are flooding me with udp ports 7171... any ideas?
[13:48] <alexstacey> Hi, I'm unable to connect to a network via wireless and don't know how to troubleshoot it. Does anyone have any ideas?  I am going out and buying  a macbook to cheers myself up
[13:49] <Neaai> moza: does your card have multiple channels?
[13:51] <BrainBrainBrain> why can't I even play a fukin dvd in ubuntu?
[13:51] <moza> i'm not sure what is a channel... i have two outputs for sound and one input (one line (jack) for headphones, one line for microphone)
[13:51] <dschulz> levidos: sudo iptables -t filter -I INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS>/0  -p udp --dport 7171 -j DROP
[13:51] <jrib> !dvd | BrainBrainBrain
[13:51] <jrib> BrainBrainBrain: and please watch your language
[13:51] <BrainBrainBrain> i already installed vlc, restriced extra stuff, mplayer, xine....
[13:52] <Neaai> moza: right clicking the volume icon top-right will give you an "open volume control" and "prefferences". See how you have those and test those settings.
[13:52] <white-sheep> dev12341234 -- Sounds like an antisocial issue.
[13:52] <jrib> BrainBrainBrain: great, because the docs tell you what you need and you didn't list it!
[13:52] <fat_rat> !ohmy | BrainBrainBrain
[13:52] <tiyowan> BrainBrainBrain: Can you play another dvd?
[13:52] <dschulz> BrainBrainBrain: have you enabled the medibuntu repository?
[13:52] <BrainBrainBrain> i think some dvds work
[13:53] <tmccrary> Does anyone know how to get 9800M GTS Sli working with ubuntu? For me, x won't start even with the beta drivers, "no device detected"
[13:53] <tmccrary> :(
[13:53] <white-sheep> BrainBrainBrain -- For legal reasons, Ubuntu don't play encrypted DVDs -- Follow the links. ;)
[13:53] <tiyowan> BrainBrainBrain: "I think" isn't good enough, buddy. Check and confirm.
[13:53] <moza> thanks Neaai , i don't know what i did (as always in alsamixer, but now i have sound well on vlc, headphones or not...
[13:55] <Neaai> moza: that's good then, that's where you select the channels as in out1 or out2 or headphones and all. there are other definitions for "sound channles" and some would kill me for using the word channel in this context, but that's what I meant by that.
[13:56] <Neaai> moza: curiosity, does your nick have anything to do with a tree or a flower ?
[13:56] <md22> hello
[13:56] <levidos> lol dschulz , it was wuala :)  fake alarm :P
[13:57] <fikel> graphics problems? contact the Ubuntu Help line on skype, the.ubuntu.help.line
[13:57] <moza> Neaai, not at all... some have thought about cheese (mozarella) but never about tree or flower
[13:57] <krishmish> nickserv identify 123
[13:57] <Neaai> moza: lol. ok. I albanian it's a tree that's called mimoza and moza for short.
[13:58] <Neaai> anyhow. I'm off. take care all and have a great weekend.
[13:58] <BrainBrainBrain> ok i installed the libdvdread shit, now mplayer is the only player that accepts the dvd ok good enough for me
[13:59] <krishmish> ?
[13:59] <krishmish> nickserv help
[13:59] <BadElvis> I have a intel d945gclf2 mini itx board. just installed 8.10 from cd via an ide cdrom drive. now, i can only boot ubuntu, if i have the ide cdrom drive plugged in. if i remove it, ubuntu wont boot and i get (initramfs)
[13:59] <dschulz> levidos: next time you can also try with ufw
[13:59] <BadElvis> what could be the matter?
[13:59] <dschulz> levidos: sudo ufw deny proto udp from <IP_ADDRESS>/0 to any port 7171
[14:00] <levidos> thanx dschulz
[14:00] <dschulz> levidos: man ufw  ;)
[14:00] <Doodz> hey peeps... I'm looking to upgrade my Alsa files to the latest version (from 0.17 to 018a) after a fresh install and Update of Ubuntu 8.10... but not sure if I have to get rid of the previous version before installing the new....I've been to Alsa channel but they can't help me with Ubuntu distro for my question
[14:05] <orange_tang> ?
[14:06] <Paingel> Netsplit?
[14:07] <tiyowan> Looks like it
[14:08] <harvey> Hi guys, Im a complete newbie and just installed 8.10 and the screen res is all messed up, Im trying to set up  my nvidia video card settings and have been told that i do not appear to be using the nvidia x driver and have been advised to edit my x confi file by just running nvidia-xconfig as root and than restart the xserver, how do I do this ?
[14:08] <orange_tang> netsplit/
[14:08] <orange_tang> ?
[14:08] <BadElvis> harvey, you must first install these utilities
[14:09] <Nalleman> hi, what is the name of the "iso to usb" program found in ubuntu?
[14:09] <BadElvis> for example with the synaptic
[14:09] <harvey> thnaks badelvis
[14:09] <tiyowan> Nalleman: You mean like...installing ubuntu to a usb right?
[14:09] <Nalleman> tiyowan, yes
[14:09] <BadElvis> and then you can run nvidia-xconfig, and then you can restart the xserver with ctrl alt backspace
[14:10] <Stavros> hello
[14:10] <tiyowan> !usb | Nalleman
[14:10] <harvey> what do i install badelvis, is it in synaptic ?
[14:10] <Nalleman> tiyowan, thanx
[14:10] <BadElvis> harvey: yes
[14:10] <BadElvis> i think
[14:10] <Stavros> my wireless won't connect on startup, instead requiring me to log in first, what can i do?
[14:10] <thompa> firefox is stuck in full screen. Is there a simple way to fix?
[14:11] <harvey> i'll look now, thanks very much
[14:11] <Stavros> thompa: f11
[14:11] <nogeek> hi, I am new with Ubuntu :) where please do I get newer repositories for Deluge, Me-TV or Pidgin-Plugin-Pack?
[14:12] <thompa> Stavros: thanks. web site set it off
[14:12] <tiyowan> nogeek: These packages are already there in the repos. If you want newer versions of some programs, then I think you to download and install 'em yourself.
[14:12] <harvey> excellent... found it, looks like this may be it...installing now
[14:15] <terryx> hey my ubuntu keeps auto log off every time, help me?
[14:16] <patrik> I'm going to build a LTSP server and I'm wondering if the graphics card on the server is of importance?
[14:16] <nogeek> tiyowan, obviously there are users repos -- but where are they listed?
[14:16] <hspaans> patrik: no
[14:16] <piiile> is there a way to configure proxy-settings for wget?
[14:16] <Stavros> how do i stop the gui from launching every time on boot?
[14:16] <tiyowan> nogeek: Have you tried googling?
[14:16] <terryx> plz guys.......
[14:16] <piiile> the problem is: which proxy envirionment_variable does sudo use?
[14:17] <nogeek> tiyowan, I am on it -- but what's wrong with asking?
[14:17] <terryx> i have a graphical problem..
[14:17] <bmomjian> I upgraded to Flash 10 on Ubuntu 8.04 and now I can't watch Youtube videos in HD (says video not available).  Can someone confirm that problem or suggest a solution?
[14:17] <patrik> hspaans: ok, thanks
[14:17] <GoldyLol> hi
[14:17] <harvey> badelvis i just typed nvidia-xconfig in terminal and got driver incmplete in file /etc/x11/xconfig  must have a driver line, any ideas what i can do now?
[14:17] <tiyowan> nogeek: Nothing, my friend.
[14:18] <piiile> !proxy
[14:18] <soreau> ! nvidia
[14:18] <piiile> !wget
[14:18] <terryx> how do i install my nvdia fx5500 drivers in ubuntu????????????????????????
[14:19] <piiile> terryx: normally via the restricted driver settings
[14:19] <Stavros> how do i stop gdm from launching on boot?
[14:19] <rdz> terryx, try envyng.. aptitude install envyng
[14:19] <harvey> thanks ubottu
[14:19] <terryx> and how i do that?
[14:19] <terryx> whats envying
[14:20] <piiile> Stavros: you can stop gdm by tyoing "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[14:20] <tARrAScH> Hi, I think I've found a gtk bug when using Ubuntu. Where is it appropriate to report it or get help with fixing it ?
[14:20] <rdz> terryx, aptitude install envyng-gtk
[14:20] <terryx> tell me the steps plz.?
[14:20] <piiile> and start again by typing (in virtual console -- try control-alt-F1) "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[14:20] <rdz> then start from a terminal: envyng-gtk
[14:21] <rdz> terryx, then the program opens and oyu will be guided from there on
[14:21] <terryx> so i type sudo get-install envying-gtk
[14:21] <kane77> who should I notify that official sk mirror for ubuntu packages is down?
[14:21] <rdz> terryx, yup
[14:21] <rdz> into a terminal, yes
[14:22] <LynggaardDk> Hi... How do I make sypnaptic or apt-get find my 32bit dependencies when running 64bit ubuntu ?
[14:22] <terryx> its says command not found
[14:22] <piiile> terryx: use apt-get install envying-gtk
[14:22] <piiile> instead
[14:22] <antiPosix> how do I see what files a package contains?  I installed it using aptitude
[14:22] <erUSUL> antiPosix: dpkg -L package
[14:23] <antiPosix> erUSUL: thanks!
[14:23] <terryx> segamentation fault
[14:23] <rdz> antiPosix, first 'aptitude install apt-file' then do 'apt-file show <package-name>'
[14:23] <antiPosix> terryx: strace binary and see what its complaining about
[14:23] <piiile> terryx: apt-get segfaulted?
[14:24] <terryx> yes, it was happens before
[14:24] <piiile> did you install software before?
[14:26] <LynggaardDk> I have a 64bit install, and a repository with 32bit software, how do I make apt-get use that. It keeps saying package not found
[14:26] <terryx> sudo apt-get install envying-gtk
[14:26] <fde> envyng-gtk
[14:26] <adityag> i am in serious problem,when i used to login to ubuntu 8.04, they asked me to change the premission of some /home/m/.xxxx file to 644, but i did a "chmod -R 644 ." , that changed the entire contents of m user to 644, i restarted and then it entered a terminal mode, i again did a "chmod -R 744 ." to the same folder. Now ubuntu does not even start, and i get several failed processes at the start up. I put in a 8.04 cd and there is no rescue system in it.
[14:28] <erUSUL> LynggaardDk: you shouldn't mix the two arch's i do not think that set up is supported
[14:28] <kid> hi
[14:28] <adityag> any help will be appreciated.
[14:29] <madduck> any idea why 'gksu synaptic' would sleep for 3-5 seconds and then just return with $?==0 but never display a prompt or synaptic?
[14:29] <orange_tang> erusul: don't cross the streams?
[14:29] <orange_tang> erusul: oh wait, that's ghostbusters. nm.
[14:29] <madduck> http://1t2.us/298959 is the debug output
[14:29] <fde> LynggaardDk: If you have to use 32bit and 64bit, recommend you use a chroot'ed env - take a look at debootstrap... dpkg and apt do not support multiarch
[14:30] <adityag> anyone there to help on a broken system ?
[14:30] <fde> madduck: use gksudo instead
[14:30] <LynggaardDk> erUSUL: why not, is that not what ia32-libs is for... namely running the 32bit and 64bit mixing... without all the chroot stuff
[14:30] <madduck> fde: i can't really, since the 8.10 System->Administration menu uses gksu it seems.
[14:30] <vegombrei> hi ... is there an application i can use to sort my music ... i have like 300 gigs of music and have so many duplicates that i wanna remove ... is there a software that does this ?
[14:30] <madduck> also, that's not really the solution I want. :)
[14:31] <fde> LynggaardDk: no... ia32-libs is a bandaid over the lack of multiarch support in dpkg/apt... if there was real support, those packages wouldn't be necessary
[14:31] <erUSUL> LynggaardDk: yes you can rn 32 bit binaries on 64 bit ubuntu but i do not think apt/dpkg can manage packages from two different arches
[14:31] <fde> madduck: no it doesn't, it uses gksudo
[14:31] <madduck> fde: same problem with gksudo
[14:31] <LynggaardDk> erUSUL: why not ??? i mean why still not ?
[14:32] <erUSUL> LynggaardDk: i do not know the  technical reasons; sorry
[14:32] <fde> LynggaardDk: Because Debian guys decided not to support it until after Lenny is released, and they've been trying to release Lenny for about 2 years now
[14:32] <big> ciao raga io ho un problema...c e qualcuno k mi puo aiutare??
[14:32] <erUSUL> !it | big
[14:32] <adityag>  i am in serious problem,when i used to login to ubuntu 8.04, they asked me to change the premission of some /home/m/.xxxx file to 644, but i did a "chmod -R 644 ." , that changed the entire contents of m user to 644, i restarted and then it entered a terminal mode, i again did a "chmod -R 744 ." to the same folder. Now ubuntu does not even start, and i get several failed processes at the start up. I put in a 8.04 cd and there is no rescue system in
[14:32] <big> thank you
[14:33] <fde> LynggaardDk: http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch/ for the status upstream
[14:33] <mahel> hi everybody, I'm having problem with external monitor, this becomes primary and all the panels go to there, when not using cloned view
[14:33] <mahel> adityag, this is what that command is supposed to do
[14:33] <HomingHamster> is anyone familiar with the problem where your wireless is really slow?
[14:33] <adityag> mahel: i know, but there must be a way to rescue it
[14:34] <vegombrei> adityag: abd adtiya tune apne ubuntu ki vaat lagaaye
[14:34] <HomingHamster> i have found the 23 page thread on the forum.
[14:34] <terryx> where is the shutdown menu on top right
[14:34] <whileimhere> hi can anyone tell me if the program zsnes in the 8.10 repo is broken?
[14:34] <mahel> adityag, you could get it to run, but I know no easy way to restore permissions of ALL files
[14:35] <adityag>  vegombrei: i kknow
[14:35] <mahel> adityag, I'd reinstall
[14:35] <vegombrei> adityag: you need to back up and reinstall
[14:35] <terryx> hey guys
[14:35] <LynggaardDk> fde: what is the holdup ? and can't ubuntu include it anyway =?
[14:35] <terryx> how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[14:35] <Feeernando> hello
[14:35] <adityag> mahel: right , but i'll lose all the data, then all the configurations
[14:35] <terryx> fx5500 geforce
[14:36] <BUGabundo> quick question
[14:36] <BUGabundo> how do I change the language, in the terminal, for the next app startup?
[14:36] <BUGabundo> I would like to launch gnucash in portuguese, while the system is English
[14:36] <adityag> vegombrei: backup?? what do i backup ? the home folder ?
[14:36] <mahel> adityag, boot livecd and backup your data what you need, your files live in /home, configuration in /etc
[14:36] <overdub> adityag: try chmod -R 777 to at least get all permission back and it should boot up
[14:36] <mahel> BUGabundo, LANG=ru gedit for example
[14:37] <vegombrei> adityag: backup only the files important to you .. no need to back up the entire home folder
[14:37] <aaz> i am unable to do program in anjuta new version can any one help me
[14:37] <aaz> i am unable to do program in anjuta new version can any one help me
[14:37] <aaz> i am unable to do program in anjuta new version can any one help me
[14:37] <BUGabundo> mahel: no export before?
[14:37] <adityag> overdub: i did it from centOS but it dint boot, some processes at the startup failed
[14:37] <Guest39397> Hey guys i just got a serious errer when i restarted my computer it came with a message "SYSTEM BOOT FAILURE PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISC" i inserted the disc and it brought me to the live cd version, how cna i save my ubuntu with loosing my stuff
[14:37] <overdub> adityag: then use find to target specific files for permission changes
[14:37] <fde> LynggaardDk: the hold up is due to Lenny release, I already told you that... afaik, Ubuntu has hired the guys that wrote dpkg and apt, but I think they just don't want to fork the two packages.
[14:37] <white-sheep> How would one address an issue with flash player?
[14:37] <aaz> hay tintin
[14:38] <tintin> ubuntu el mejor
[14:38] <tintin> hola aaz
[14:38] <aaz> where from tintin
[14:38] <tintin> madrif
[14:38] <mahel> BUGabundo, if on same line, then not needed, exporting would change it for every program started since then
[14:38] <adityag> mahel: overdub: is it possible to get the packages & updates i installed to it
[14:38] <tintin> madrid
[14:38] <fde> white-sheep: what issue?
[14:38] <aaz> u mean madras
[14:38] <aaz> i am from hyd
[14:38] <BUGabundo> mahel: so lang=PT; gnucash should do it?
[14:39] <aaz> where is madrif tintin
[14:39] <white-sheep> fdd, I removed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:39] <tintin> españa madrid
[14:39] <white-sheep> fde -- Sorry.  See above.
[14:39] <tintin> spain
[14:39] <aaz> ok
[14:39] <Guest39397> Hey guys i just got a serious errer when i restarted my computer it came with a message "SYSTEM BOOT FAILURE PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISC" i inserted the disc and it brought me to the live cd version, how cna i save my ubuntu with loosing my stuff
[14:39] <tintin> and you
[14:39] <aaz> i am from india
[14:39] <adityag>  aaz: from mumbai
[14:39] <mahel> adityag, packages installed are listed in one text file, google for it, afterwards you can put it back in right location and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:39] <fikel> if you need help on Skype with Ubuntu, chat to the.ubuntu.help.line
[14:39] <aaz> can i help with some thing tintin
[14:39] <aaz> tintin
[14:39] <chainoo> #ubuntu-es
[14:39] <tintin> no thank you
[14:40] <mahel> BUGabundo, I am not sure if ; is needed, also pt may need to be in lowercase
[14:40] <fde> white-sheep: removing ubuntu-restricted-extras shouldn't have removed flashplugin-nonfree ... but if it did, just reinstall flashplugin-nonfree  :/
[14:40] <aaz> i mean can u
[14:40] <aaz> help me
[14:40] <adityag> mahel: ok cool, what is the file name ??
[14:40] <tintin> yes
[14:40] <fikel> can someone help me on skype?
[14:40] <aaz> i want have updated my ubuntu
[14:40] <white-sheep> fde -- Right -- I tried this -- remove flashplugin-nonfree && install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:40] <mahel> adityag, google for it, can't say
[14:40] <vegombrei> aaz ?
[14:40] <white-sheep> It removed + install again.  I restarted the firefox.  It asked me to go to Adobe site.
[14:40] <tintin> use internet
[14:41] <aaz> and i want to write a c program in anjuta its not working tintin
[14:41] <fde> white-sheep: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:41] <white-sheep> fde -- I know that.  It's my alias. >_>
[14:41] <aaz> no i already updated
[14:41] <tintin> i don understand you
[14:41] <fikel> whitesheep: can u help me with ubuntu on skype? my skype name is the.ubuntu.help.line
[14:41] <tintin> repeat again please
[14:41] <fde> white-sheep: about:plugins doesn't list it?
[14:41] <white-sheep> fde -- I get this message -- Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[14:41] <aaz> i mean anjuta ide is not working
[14:41] <white-sheep> fde -- I'll check.
[14:42] <aaz> for me
[14:42] <fde> fikel: No one knows about Skype because no one uses it
[14:42] <fikel> huh
[14:42] <white-sheep> fde -- I don't see Abode or Flash.
[14:42] <fikel> skype is deadly
[14:42] <aaz> so did u get me
[14:42] <tintin> i don t know ajuta, what it is?
[14:42] <terryx> i am downloading nvidia drivers for ubuntu from nvidia.com, am i doing correct?
[14:42] <aaz> tintin
[14:42] <LynggaardDk> fde: but what is the holdup with the Lenny release ? why can't they get that out the door ? you said they tried for 2 years now
[14:42] <ardchoille> terryx: no
[14:42] <fde> white-sheep: dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree ... show anything?
[14:42] <aaz> its a c and c++ program executor
[14:42] <ardchoille> !nvidia | terryx
[14:43] <fde> LynggaardDk: about 200 release critical bugs
[14:43] <terryx> tell me guys
[14:43] <aaz> dont u do c and c++ programs
[14:43] <white-sheep> fde -- /usr/lib/iceweasl + /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins
[14:43] <tintin> so sorry i cann help you
[14:43] <LynggaardDk> fde: yes but 2 years ?...
[14:43] <fde> LynggaardDk: 2 years ago, there was around 1500
[14:44] <fikel> fine, my problem is dat when i installed updates, it told me to do a partial upgrade and when i clicked it, it came up dat it was reading cache and then stopped
[14:45] <romain_> hi
[14:45] <fde> white-sheep: ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins has nothing related to flash?
[14:45] <aaz> hi romain
[14:45] <white-sheep> fde -- What do you mean?
[14:45] <LynggaardDk> fde: do you know the current estimate ? will it be in ubuntu 9.10 ? or will it be even later ?
[14:45] <fikel> if any of u's on skype, plz contact me on the.ubuntu.help.line
[14:45] <fde> LynggaardDk: certainly later
[14:46] <Knoobie> Hi, this is LifeOfTheSpectru!
[14:46] <fred_> join xbmc
[14:46] <white-sheep> fde -- You know when you aptitude search -- i for install -- p for (not install) -- what does c stands for?
[14:46] <Knoobie> I have now installed Ubuntu!
[14:46] <LynggaardDk> fde: so basicly multi arch is a dead horse...
[14:46] <fde> white-sheep: configuration ... means its not fulling installed
[14:46] <fikel> nobodywants to help me...
[14:46] <fikel> some team u's are
[14:47] <adityag> i have a broken system 8.04, is it possible to get the backup of updates and packages of the installed packages ?
[14:47] <ardchoille> fikel: not everyone in here has the answers to every question/issue
[14:47] <fikel> well
[14:47] <fikel> nobody
[14:47] <fikel> answer
[14:47] <white-sheep> fde -- How would I address // configure the?
[14:47] <fikel> me
[14:47] <FloodBot1> fikel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <fikel> anyway
[14:47] <Knoobie> Right, I need an Anti-virus, and Anti-Spyware and a Firewall, for the Antivirus, I'm downloading Avast! Any suggestions?
[14:47] <user01> #openmoko-debian
[14:47] <white-sheep> Knoobie -- Ubuntu don't need Anti-virus. ;)
[14:47] <Knoobie> Doesn't it?
[14:47] <fikel> ubuntu is great but help isn't
[14:48] <fde> LynggaardDk: They want to do it after Lenny... which is likely to be released in the next couple months... so there might be the starts of it in 9.10... Debian tends to have higher technical standards though than most distros, so there is no time frame... just "when its ready"
[14:48] <Knoobie> Ok then, what about an Anti-Spyware?
[14:48] <adityag>  i have a broken system 8.04, is it possible to get the backup of updates and packages of the installed packages ?
[14:48] <ardchoille> Knoobie: don't need it really
[14:48] <ardchoille> !av
[14:49] <fde> LynggaardDk: In Ubuntu, not even main needs to be free of release critical bugs - its a time based release... in Debian, there has to be no release critical bugs in any of the 25,000 packages in their repo
[14:49] <adityag>  i have a broken system 8.04, is it possible to get the backup of updates and packages of the installed packages ?
[14:49] <fikel> p
[14:49] <fikel> p
[14:49] <fikel> p
[14:49] <FloodBot1> fikel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <white-sheep> Knoobie -- See http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[14:50] <fikelfikel> hi
[14:51] <Knoobie> Ok, so what about Anti-Spyware?
[14:51] <white-sheep> fde -- How would I address // configure the flashplugin-nonfree?
[14:51] <ardchoille> Knoobie: don't need it really
[14:51] <fikelfikel> i changed my nickname so i wouldnt be blocked again
[14:51] <fde> Knoobie: spyware isn't an issue on Linux
[14:51] <fikelfikel> from fikel to fikelfilel
[14:51] <LynggaardDk> fde: Debian might have that, but their release planning and scoping of features still hurts the progress as the schedule drags out for many year.. from what I have learned today, 64bit is a nogo unless you only have 1 max 2 apps... otherwise you need to do chroot and such, because the ia32-libs approach is a dud
[14:51] <_cb> Which is a good programming tool for Ubuntu? Preferably with a good IDE and that can connect to the Firebird database?
[14:51] <Knoobie> Really?
[14:51] <Ward1983> can i make a persistent lice USB stick shile using the CD to boot and a USB stick for the home-rw and casper-rw partitions? (its an old stick, only 1GB)
[14:51] <Knoobie> Ok, and a firewall, I KNOW I need that.
[14:51] <IdleOne> fikelfikel, yeah we noticed.
[14:51] <ardchoille> fikelfikel: evading a ban can cause your ip to be banned perm
[14:51] <adityag>  i have a broken system 8.04, is it possible to get the backup of updates and packages of the installed packages ?
[14:52] <fikelfikel> now, plz help
[14:52] <fde> LynggaardDk: pretty much correct... yes
[14:52] <ardchoille> !patience | fikelfikel
[14:52] <IdleOne> fikelfikel, ask a question
[14:52] <Knoobie> Does anyone have any suggestions for Firewalls?
[14:52] <ardchoille> !firewall | Knoobie
[14:52] <white-sheep> Knoobie -- If you really need a firewall -- Then firestarter will be my best bet.
[14:52] <ardchoille> Knoobie: firestarter is great
[14:52] <Stavros> why do i have to log in to connect to a wireless network?
[14:53] <thiebaude1> Knoobie: yup firestarter is a good one
[14:53] <Knoobie> Ok, I'll try that, thanks! I like Ubuntu already!
[14:53] <Knoobie> Oh, 1 more thing, is Flock compatible?
[14:53] <fikelfikel> well, what happened was, i tried installing updates, and it said do a partial upgrade. When dat happened it said reading the cache and then closed. cant install updates.
[14:53] <fde> white-sheep: I'm not entirely sure.... you purged it, which causes issues... you can try enabling the partner repo in System > Administration > Software Sources "3rd Party repos" ... and installing adobe-flashplugin ... other than that, idk
[14:54] <fikelfikel> i tried installing updates, and it said do a partial upgrade. When dat happened it said reading the cache and then closed. cant install updates.
[14:54] <fikelfikel> i tried installing updates, and it said do a partial upgrade. When dat happened it said reading the cache and then closed. cant install updates.
[14:54] <ardchoille> !repeat | fikelfikel
[14:55] <white-sheep> Do I remove the directory manually?  -- dpkg - warning: while removing flashplugin-nonfree, directory `/usr/lib/iceweasel' not empty so not removed.
[14:55] <fde> fikelfikel: in a terminal... do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade .... what does it say the problem is?
[14:55] <fde> white-sheep: I said nothing about removing anything  >:|
[14:56] <Knoobie> What's the linux equivalent to .exe?
[14:56] <fde> white-sheep: just install it
[14:56] <white-sheep> fde -- This is the message I received upon the purge. >_>
[14:56] <ardchoille> Knoobie: Linux doesn't usually care about file extensions, what you are asking about is called a "binary"
[14:56] <fikelfikel> thanks for solution
[14:57] <md22> linux =transparency
[14:57] <fde> Knoobie: Unix doesn't use extensions at all... it uses MIME types... basically, binaries go into /usr/bin /usr/sbin /bin and /sbin ... where your path can find them... file /bin/ls for instance to see this data
[14:57] <Stavros> why won't ubuntu connect on a wifi network on boot?
[14:57] <Knoobie> Right. Ok, sorry for all the questions, this is my first time majorly using any Linux. =]
[14:57] <ardchoille> Knoobie: No problem, we were all at that point at one time :)
[14:58] <fde> Knoobie: in saying that, some applications still like to go by extension... but that's generally just for pictures and stuff
[14:58] <md22> to find out what type a file is  use the "file" command
[14:58] <thiebaude1> Knoobie: if you want an great e-book on ubuntu goto scribd dot com
[14:58] <fde> white-sheep: I didn't say purge anything... gdi... just enable partners and install adobe-flashplugin
[14:58] <fikelfikel> i will be patient now
[14:58] <jorge__> Hi guys
[14:58] <exodus_ms> !wifi > Stavros
[14:58] <md22> hi jorge__
[14:58] <thiebaude1> hi jorge__
[14:59] <ardchoille> Knoobie: Here's a good starting point for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[14:59] <LynggaardDk> Is there a simple guide on getting a minimal 32bit chroot on a 64bit ubuntu 8.10... the guide on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot only goes to feisty at least for the downloads
[14:59] <ackbahr> Hi! I just used 'make', but how do I know where this was all output to? Thanks!
[14:59] <Knoobie> I'm going to do a month trial of linux, then go back to vista for a while, if I prefer Ubuntu, I'll delete Vista and give all my hard-drive to Ubuntu.
[14:59] <BillHarris> I used to run rdiff-backup, but, starting after Dec. 13, it fails ashttp://pastebin.com/fc3586dd
[14:59] <BillHarris>
[14:59] <jorge__> Guys , I need some tips, wonder if anyone can help?
[14:59] <fikelfikel> fionn@fionn-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade Hit http://archive.canonical.com intrepid Release.gpg                            Hit http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports Release.gpg                     Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg                            Hit http://mirror.switch.ch intrepid Release.gpg                             ...
[14:59] <fikelfikel> ...   Ign http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/main Translation-en_IE          Ign http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/restricted Translation-en_IE    Ign http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe Translation-en_IE      Ign http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_IE Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Translation-en_IE  Ign
[15:00] <fikelfikel>  http://mirror.switch.ch intrepid/main Translation-en_IE           Hit http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports Release              Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release                                Ign http://mirror.switch.ch intrepid/restricted Translation-en_IE                Hit http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/main Packages                   Hit http://us.archiv
[15:00] <FloodBot1> fikelfikel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <fikelfikel> e.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages                      Hit http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/restricted Packages           Hit http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe Packages             Ign http://mirror.switch.ch intrepid/universe Translation-en_IE                  Ign http://archive.canonical.com intrepid/partner Translation-en_IE              Ign http://mirror.s
[15:00] <ackbahr> jorge__: Tell us what's wrong straight away
[15:00] <thiebaude1> Knoobie: good luck
[15:00] <Knoobie> Thanks for the help everyone! =D
[15:00] <fde> LynggaardDk: just replace the fiesty command with whatever dist you want... it works exacty the same way
[15:00] <BillHarris> Running Intrepid; told on rdiff-backup mail list that it was because I can't mkdir on the external USB drive I'm using for backup.  Did anything change?
[15:01] <idx_foo> I was thinking of switching to OpenSUSE 11.1, but realise all I wanted was KDE4. Is it safe to install KDE4 through synaptic. It wouldn't muck up Gnome? I don't know how easy it is to run a dual-WM set up.
[15:01] <BillHarris> It's an NTFS partition
[15:01] <fikelfikel> b
[15:01] <jorge__> Right, what is the best software to download music and videos  in UBUNTU
[15:01] <fde> idx_foo: its perfectly fine to do
[15:01] <Ward1983> can i make a persistent lice USB stick shile using the CD to boot and a USB stick for the home-rw and casper-rw partitions? (its an old stick, only 1GB)
[15:01] <white-sheep> fde -- Still got the issue.  I enabled the 3rd parties repos.
[15:01] <fde> idx_foo: when logging in, just go to 'Session' and choose which desktop you want after installing KDE
[15:01] <yosh_> irc://irc.otaku-irc.fr/gto_fansub
[15:02] <fde> white-sheep: and you install adobe-flashplugin?
[15:02] <Knoobie> Jorge: I would try Vuze or another Bittorrent.
[15:02] <yosh_> misere
[15:02] <idx_foo> I was warned by some websites that I'd get a crude mesh of Gnome and KDE services running which may cause clashes and/or poor performance
[15:02] <thiebaude1> jorge__: limewire
[15:02] <idx_foo> This was for earlier versions of Ubuntu/KDE though
[15:02] <white-sheep> fde -- It didn't came up in search.
[15:02] <fde> idx_foo: your menus would be messy, because they'd have stuff from KDE and GNOME, other than that, you'd get no issues
[15:03] <fde> white-sheep: its there in intrepid  :/
[15:03] <ardchoille> fde: the menu issue can be fixed user-side tho
[15:03] <fde> white-sheep: then I can't help you, sorry... why did you remove ubuntu-restricted-extras in the first place?
[15:03] <fde> ardchoille: sure
[15:03] <jorge__> THANK YOU GUYS , I WILL TRY NOW AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW OK, THANKS
[15:04] <idx_foo> By going through the menu editor in Gnome? And whatever the KDE equialent is?
[15:04] <fde> idx_foo: kmenuedit (right click the menu and choose edit) ... yes
[15:05] <idx_foo> Thanks people. Ho ho ho, off to Synaptic I go.
[15:05] <masmota> i d/l and installed the nvidia driver, but when the machine comes up it wants to use "low graphics"  ...if i rmmod nvidia;modprobe nvidia and restart gdm problem is solved.  does anyone know where to edit the "startup" stuff reguarding this?
[15:05] <white-sheep> fde -- Java Development + Hmm + I read up on the forums that ubuntu-restricted-extras are only good for casual users -- Not for developers.
[15:05] <RichiH> idx_foo: keeping the two apart is trivial
[15:05] <white-sheep> fde -- I have been Ubuntu for a month now.  I'm adapted to it already. ;)
[15:05] <MrBrooks> how to logout from ssh?
[15:05] <basy> hi all, i heve 2 monitors, using nvidia-setting i can set separate sreen & twinview ... they works ok... but how to setup "clone" ?
[15:05] <droopsta915> will a data disc boot up if the proper files are in the disk?
[15:06] <fde> white-sheep: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a meta-package depending on codecs and the like... you can have multiple versions of java coexisting just fine...
[15:06] <Ward1983> can i make a persistent lice USB stick shile using the CD to boot and a USB stick for the home-rw and casper-rw partitions? (its an old stick, only 1GB)
[15:06] <_cb> Anybody using lazarus?
[15:06] <_Marko> what's special in ubuntu LTS ?
[15:06] <tiyowan> MrBrooks: exit
[15:06] <idx_foo> To be honest I have a lot of KDE apps on my PC atm, I'm using Konversation now. So a lot of the base libraries are already installed :)
[15:06] <white-sheep> fde -- Got it -- I have to go out for breakfast -- I'll be back in a hour.  Thanks. :3
[15:06] <ardchoille> !lts | _Marko
[15:07] <MrBrooks> thanks tiyowan
[15:07] <idx_foo> Is "kde" in the repo KDE4?
[15:07] <droopsta915> marko: its a long term distro, so you have more time with support and help - from my understanding. ;)
[15:07] <ardchoille> idx_foo: kubuntu-desktop
[15:07] <fde> idx_foo: Recommend you just install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[15:07] <tiyowan> idx_foo: kubuntu-desktop will get you kde.
[15:07] <_Marko> is it free ?
[15:07] <idx_foo> Ok, thanks
[15:07] <thiebaude1> yes _Marko
[15:07] <fde> idx_foo: 'kde' will install so much crap you'll be there all day
[15:07] <Knoobie> Are downloads naturally slow in Linux?
[15:07] <masmota> i d/l and installed the nvidia driver, but when the machine comes up it wants to use "low graphics"  ...if i rmmod nvidia ; modprobe nvidia ;  gdm restart...problem is solved.  does anyone know where to edit the "startup" stuff reguarding this?  or know where i can put a script that will exec on bootup to automate the "kludge"
[15:07] <droopsta915> marko: yes
[15:08] <RobLikesBrunch> Hey
[15:08] <ikop> once again fikelfikel is back
[15:08] <BillHarris> Has anything changed in the last month about writing to external NTFS partions (e.g., a USB hard drive)?
[15:08] <thiebaude1> !free
[15:08] <ikop> but i will be patient
[15:08] <prassyy> hello
[15:08] <RobLikesBrunch> New to linux, trying to install MS Word 07 with wine
[15:08] <RobLikesBrunch> Having problems >.>
[15:08] <_Marko> okay
[15:08] <_Marko> 10x
[15:08] <idx_foo> Will this change my OS loading screens?
[15:08] <RobLikesBrunch> Any up for helping me :D?
[15:08] <idx_foo> The one with the moving orange bar
[15:08] <fde> !mirror > Knoobie
[15:08] <ardchoille> RobLikesBrunch: with what?
[15:09] <fde> RobLikesBrunch: it won't work at this time... it only supports up to 2003 atm
[15:09] <prassyy> stopped compiz from sessions, then uninstalled everything from system 8.04, now when trying to install compiz im presented with emerald -- how am i supposed to get only compiz
[15:09] <RobLikesBrunch> Well, I've been following this guide: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/40708
[15:09] <RobLikesBrunch> and they got it to work
[15:09] <droopsta915> RobLikesBrunch: wine works....kinda. I use to want to install everything with wine, but realized the opensource packages did the same job
[15:09] <fde> RobLikesBrunch: try using OpenOffice.org Writer.......
[15:09] <RobLikesBrunch> I dunno how to whisper :S
[15:09] <Knoobie> What's !Mirror?
[15:09] <RobLikesBrunch> Err, I can't. I need OneNote
[15:09] <fde> !mirror
[15:10] <fde> not what I meant
[15:10] <exodus_ms> Knoobie, read the link...
[15:10] <Knoobie> I am.
[15:10] <PyChild> Hello, today I recieved a notification to upgrade my distribution, what's with this? sounds kinda fishy
[15:10] <RobLikesBrunch> Anyway, when I try to install stuff from winetricks
[15:10] <ikop> can u help me wid problem? when i try installing updates on intrepid ibex, it says it needs to do a partial upgrade, so i clicked it. It came up reading the cache and the closed
[15:10] <RobLikesBrunch> I get stuck @ msxml3 and get errors
[15:10] <thiebaude1> PyChild: upgrade to what?
[15:10] <droopsta915> can I make a bootable disk using brasero. or kb3?
[15:10] <adityag> i have a broken 8.04.i'll install a new copy but i need the backup of packages & updates which i installed on the system or atleast where the installed packages' list is stored!
[15:10] <tiyowan> PyChild: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:10] <uffo> can anyone tell me why my AR928X has so poor wifi quality with 8.10
[15:10] <PyChild> ibex
[15:11] <lesshaste> is there some way to tell which ubuntu packages contains xstring.sty?
[15:11] <Ward1983> can i make a persistent lice USB stick shile using the CD to boot and a USB stick for the home-rw and casper-rw partitions? (its an old stick, only 1GB)
[15:11] <masmota> i d/l and installed the nvidia driver from their site, but when the machine comes up it wants to use "low graphics"  ...reloading the nvidia module & restarting gdm fixes it.  does anyone know where to edit the "startup" stuff reguarding the nvidia module?  or know where i can put a script that will exec on bootup to automate the "kludge"
[15:11] <RobLikesBrunch> Note: command 'wine msiexec /i /home/rob/.winetrickscache/msxml3.msi' returned status 103.  Aborting.
[15:11] <tiyowan> adityag !clone
[15:11] <RobLikesBrunch> does anyone have any idea why?
[15:11] <lesshaste> RobLikesBrunch, try #winehq
[15:11] <tiyowan> adityag | !clone
[15:11] <RobLikesBrunch> Ok, thakns
[15:11] <tiyowan> adityag: Maybe you can find something there.
[15:11] <adityag> tiyowan: how do i do that ?
[15:11] <PyChild> I'm already using Ibex so why does it ask   me to distupgrade?
[15:11] <tiyowan> !clone
[15:11] <fde> Knoobie: go to System > Administration > Software Sources ... the first tab, near the middle says Use this mirror, or something to that effect, and has a drop down... there, choose "Other server" ... and click on "best server" on the right
[15:11] <adityag> tiyowan: i did not get any link
[15:11] <quizme> how do i install mail?
[15:11] <Knoobie> I really don't understand what you want me to do. I am trying to download Thunderbird, but it's taking forever, faster than it does in Vista, I was wondering if it was natural in Linux.
[15:12] <IdleOne> PyChild, it should not be
[15:12] <quizme> apt-get install mailx ?
[15:12] <Knoobie> Oooooh, ok, thanks. :D
[15:12] <lesshaste> is there some way to tell which ubuntu package contains the file xstring.sty?
[15:12] <quizme> apt-get install mailutils ?
[15:12] <IdleOne> PyChild, leat not for a few more months
[15:12] <ikop> does anybody remember fikel or fikelfikel
[15:12] <quizme> i want to set up an smtp server and all that
[15:12] <droopsta915> adityag: if you have internet, after you reinstall, just use update manager and your computer should be on its way again
[15:12] <fde> lesshaste: sudo aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search xstring.sty
[15:12] <prassyy> is there any way to get the same compiz setting in ubuntu when freshly installed?
[15:12] <ardchoille> Knoobie: thunderbird is in the repos, you should be using the repos to install software instead of downloading it
[15:12] <Knoobie> Thanks. =]
[15:12] <kiosk> surabaya
[15:12] <uffo> can anyone tell me why my AR928X has so poor wifi quality with 8.10, even from close distance (2m) i get 70% quality
[15:12] <lesshaste> fde, does that just search installed packages?
[15:13] <lesshaste> fde, I know it isn't on my system
[15:13] <Knoobie> How do I access the Repos?
[15:13] <thiebaude1> Knoobie: synaptic
[15:13] <exodus_ms> !synaptic
[15:13] <IdleOne> !repos | Knoobie
[15:13] <thiebaude1> or software sources
[15:13] <fde> Knoobie: but if anything, Windows networking is inherently slow... I usually get about a meg faster downloads
[15:13] <ikop> can someone help me via skype? If anybody use skype, my name is the.ubuntu.help.line
[15:13] <_Marko> I have a program installed from the source, I want to reinstall it using RPM
[15:13] <fde> lesshaste: no, it searches in the repos for that file
[15:13] <_Marko> what shall I do ?
[15:13] <PyChild> The updater tells me to update the package linux-libc-dev, does that counts as a "distribution upgrade"?
[15:13] <IdleOne> _Marko, ubuntu uses .deb not rpm
[15:13] <lesshaste> fde, ok thanks
[15:14] <ikop> FDE?
[15:14] <_Marko> I mean DEB
[15:14] <lesshaste> fde, I can also never work out why some people use aptitude and some apt-get
[15:14] <fde> ikop: yes?
[15:14] <_Marko> what's the solution ?
[15:14] <ikop> im actually fikelfikel or fikel but ive learned my lesson
[15:14] <ardchoille> _Marko: what is the program?
[15:14] <IdleOne> _Marko, what are you trying to install?
[15:14] <tiyowan> _Marko: What're you trying to install?
[15:14] <fde> lesshaste: I prefer aptitude, its more powerful... apt-get has been around longer though
[15:14] <Knoobie> So hang on, one of these Packages is Thunderbird?
[15:15] <adityag> tiyowan: but ubuntu does not even start in terminal mode now
[15:15] <fde> Knoobie: Thunderbird is in the repos, yes
[15:15] <adityag> droopsta915: ^
[15:15] <adityag> !automate
[15:15] <ardchoille> Knoobie: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[15:15] <ikop> i have got a linuz kernal problem
[15:15] <tiyowan> adityag: Oh. Then I'm out of ideas.
[15:16] <PyChild> Am I the only one asked to update linux-libc-dev today?
[15:16] <untappedpilot2> ive got a 4 unknown outbound connections in firestarter
[15:16] <ikop> ardchoille?
[15:16] <tiyowan> PyChild: What version of ubuntu are you currently using?
[15:16] <PyChild> ibex
[15:16] <adityag> tiyowan: but i can access that linux partition
[15:16] <IdleOne> PyChild, only that package. should not be a problem go ahead
[15:16] <adityag> !clone
[15:16] <_Marko> Do you have a solution ?
[15:16] <bullgard4> What do I need autofs for? My Ubuntu 8.04.1 moutnts automatically even though autofs is not installed.
[15:17] <ikop> PyChild, what is your problem? I might be able to fix it
[15:17] <fsancho> hi all
[15:17] <IdleOne> _Marko, what program?
[15:17] <ikop> hi fsancho!
[15:17] <Knoobie> Ok, update is going to take forever. I really, really confused xD.
[15:17] <Knoobie> 6h 45m remaining.
[15:17] <_Marko> I installed PHP using make, make install. I want to reinstall it using .deb
[15:18] <_Marko> Do you have a solution ?
[15:18] <Knoobie> I did the Mirror thing.
[15:18] <lesshaste> fde, hmm... well apparently it isn't anywhere!!
[15:18] <mahfiaz> Knoobie, slow net, I suppose
[15:18] <IdleOne> !lamp | _Marko
[15:18] <progre55> hi everybody! guys, how do you register in IRC? :)
[15:18] <ikop> yea
[15:18] <IdleOne> !register
[15:18] <tiyowan> PyChild: Go ahead and update.
[15:18] <_Marko> ubottu: I just need php
[15:18] <progre55> !register
[15:18] <progre55> lol )
[15:18] <_Marko> booooooot
[15:18] <imaginativeone> how do I check a channel that I created?
[15:18] <_Marko> ubottu: is a bot
[15:19] <fsancho> i have an extrange problem wit a toshiba satellite pro L300, i have installed Intrepid, and all seem to work ok. My problem is that after shutdow, the laptop boots again unexpectedly after a few minutes
[15:19] <_Marko> u do :D
[15:19] <uffo> can anyone tell me why my AR928X has so poor wifi quality with 8.10, even from close distance (2m) i get 70% quality and worst is that data transfer is slow for LAN http://paste.ubuntu.com/89258/
[15:19] <mahfiaz> _Marko, pretty smart bot, isn't he?
[15:19] <mahfiaz> _Marko, type sudo apt-get install php
[15:19] <tiyowan> fsancho: What!? Your laptop starts up by itself?
[15:19] <_Marko> hehe
[15:19] <lesshaste> fde, which is very odd given that it should be in texlive http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/latex/xstring/
[15:19] <Knoobie> This is annoying.  I would send it back where it came from and perform a couple of rituals to make sure it does not come back. :)
[15:20] <tiyowan> Knoobie: Well...if you're going to measure the worth of an OS according to its download speed, then.
[15:20] <Guest2613> unconnect
[15:20] <Knoobie> It would only give me stupidly long estimated times in a torrent, this is doing it for everything, and downloading them just as slowly.
[15:20] <IdleOne> _Marko, why are affraid?
[15:20] <Guest2613> exit
[15:21] <mahfiaz> Knoobie, it does download quick, but you need quick server and connection for that
[15:21] <Knoobie> Well I am trying to download something atm, so it would be nice if it would download so I could look at other things.
[15:21] <levidos> how can i list and modify the dns server list?
[15:21] <_Marko> a conflict between the old version (from source) and the new one
[15:21] <_Marko> IdleOne: a conflict between the old version (from source) and the new one
[15:21] <tiyowan> Knoobie: However, I doubt you'll understand this...but the Vista TCP/IP stack is horrible.
[15:21] <mahfiaz> levidos, /etc/resolv.conf
[15:21] <fsancho> IdleOne: i have heared the same problem with other units of the same model, it's something about linux because if i shutdown from windows, the laptop doesn't starts up by itself
[15:21] <levidos> 10q mahfiaz