[06:06] <b23> hey down under
[06:07] <intelikey> has anyone noticed that there are   10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binarry and those that don't ?
[06:07] <b23> haha
[06:07] <b23> yup true
[06:07] <Hobbsee> intelikey: sure, but it's offtopic :P
[06:07] <daddydoof> the executable is called SVGpage_exe I click on it then click run and it works fine but i would like to make a shortcut for it
[06:07] <DarthShrine> intelikey, Yeap. I have that on my pencilcase.
[06:07] <b23> so when is next scheduled release of ubuntu?
[06:07] <WhyvasLT> intelikey, wow, that wasn't on a shirt or anything...
[06:08] <crimsun> b23: 1 june
[06:08] <Fujitsu> June.
[06:08] <JonathanKent> !find deb
[06:08] <rcsolutions> I can't copy!
[06:08] <b23> and are we expecting many improvements therein??
[06:08] <rcsolutions> cp /home/rodolfo/Desktop/win32things/ /usr/lib/win32
[06:08] <rcsolutions> sudo before
[06:08] <crimsun> b23: work on stability, mostly.
[06:08] <intelikey> ok on topic then.     howto start fvwm without that stinking tool bar,   2. can the menu bar be made to auto hide ?
[06:08] <Fujitsu> Wouldn't that be the nature of a new release, b23?
[06:09] <daddydoof> b23, dapper is prety nice as it right now
[06:09] <b23> hai fujitsu-san
[06:09] <froggontherocks> this might be a stupid question but is there any reason why i wouldn't be able to see my other computer on the network
[06:09] <BlueEagle> froggontherocks: Have you installed a samba client on your machine?
[06:09] <BlueEagle> froggontherocks: Are your ports firewalled?
[06:09] <JonathanKent> how i can convert a file of bin a deb and then compress the file deb??
[06:09] <froggontherocks> basic install
[06:09] <froggontherocks> and no
[06:10] <crimsun> JonathanKent: ...come again?
[06:10] <rcsolutions> When I do this: "sudo cp /home/rodolfo/Desktop/win32things/ /usr/lib/win32" It just says that it's hiding the win32things directory.. nothing gets into /lib/win32
[06:10] <intelikey> and if no one answers that, i guess i'll go back to the off topic stuff, at least people answer it.....
[06:10] <BlueEagle> froggontherocks: sudo aptitude search samba
[06:10] <b23> :)
[06:10] <BlueEagle> froggontherocks: that will help you along.
[06:10] <JonathanKent> ?
[06:10] <FliesLikeABrick> rcsolutions  you have to use the -r option to tell it to operate recursively
[06:10] <BlueEagle> froggontherocks: Not sure if samba is installed by default you see. :)
[06:10] <JonathanKent> because i want compress a files of bin but he dont have a compress o yes?
[06:10] <froggontherocks> ahhh ok
[06:10] <froggontherocks> thank you
[06:11] <nightshade> i'm REALLY new to linux and i heard ubuntu was great for starters and i was wondering if anyone could help me get ubuntu connected to the internet
[06:11] <Fujitsu> What type of connection, nightshade?
[06:11] <BlueEagle> froggontherocks: I am assuming you're trying to find a windows share here.
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> nightshade  do you have it connected to your network?
[06:11] <nightshade> no
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> nightshade  do that
[06:11] <JonathanKent> ?
[06:11] <nightshade> don't know how
[06:11] <JonathanKent> how i can convert a file of bin a deb and then compress the file deb??
[06:11] <BlueEagle> nightshade: Which network card have you got?
[06:11] <froggontherocks> no all computers in my house run ubuntu
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> nightshade  do you have a network in your house?
[06:12] <YukiCuss> JonathanKent, that makes no sense. Can you reword your question?
[06:12] <nightshade> D-Link
[06:12] <nightshade> wireless
[06:12] <WhyvasLT> nightshade, is ubuntu on the machine you're on now?
[06:12] <froggontherocks> Yeah
[06:12] <WhyvasLT> ugh
[06:12] <FliesLikeABrick> nightshade  does the computer with ubuntu have an ethernet port?
[06:12] <nightshade> well i'm using the Live version first
[06:12] <JonathanKent> I need to file of bin convert to a deb you understand?
[06:12] <BlueEagle> whyvaslt: apperantly not.. :)
[06:12] <WhyvasLT> wireless...
[06:12] <cyphase> what's a good bitrate to convert a dvd to?
[06:12] <Fujitsu> FliesLikeABrick, it's wireless.
[06:12] <YukiCuss> JonathanKent, ... not exactly.
[06:12] <WhyvasLT> BlueEagle, could be dual boot genuis
[06:12] <nightshade> i'm using ubuntu on my guest computer
[06:12] <FliesLikeABrick> Fujitsu  that doesn't mean his entire network is wireless and that he can't run a network cable
[06:12] <WhyvasLT> s/genuis/genius
[06:12] <JonathanKent> i have a file of .bin i want to convert to a .deb yo understand?
[06:12] <ufo> why is there an debootstrap dir on root directory?
[06:13] <navy> What might enable me to connect to my ubuntu's apache httpd by address <IP_ADDRESS> (obviously a local one) but not <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:13] <YukiCuss> JonathanKent, what .bin is it?
[06:13] <navy> Which is his actual IP
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> navy  what kind of router do you have?
[06:13] <b23> Can I ask, where is the proper place to put codecs for Mplayer so It finds them?
[06:13] <intelikey> JonathanKent i don't know if bin > deb   conversion is possable.    maybe  bin > dir/files > deb       but i couldn't do that for you either.
[06:13] <navy> FliesLikeABrick netgear
[06:13] <crimsun> b23: /usr/lib/win32/
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell b32 about mplayer
[06:13] <nightshade> :\
[06:13] <BlueEagle> nightshade: Your router doesn't forward port 80 to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> navy have you forwarded port 80 to that computer?
[06:13] <WhyvasLT> nightshade, open up a console and do lspci
[06:13] <b23> what does your ! mean?
[06:13] <navy> I should have all ports open
[06:13] <navy> except ...
[06:14] <navy> I forgot that powersurge restarted it
[06:14] <WhyvasLT> then check what chipset is on your wireless card
[06:14] <BlueEagle> nightshade: mt
[06:14] <navy> <--retarded
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> BlueEagle  it could also be that his netgear is accepting connections on port 80 instead of forwarding them to the other computer
[06:14] <JonathanKent> !find aline
[06:14] <nightshade> and then what?
[06:14] <WhyvasLT> then check what chipset is on your wireless card
[06:14] <BlueEagle> flieslikeabrick: Well then it isn't forwarding it. :)
[06:14] <crimsun> JonathanKent: do you mean 'alien'?
[06:14] <WhyvasLT> it'll give you a bunch of stuff
[06:14] <Dark_pahnt0m> Um I need help partitioning a windows Hd into a linux HD, I am on disk manager & it doesnt let me click delete or create...
[06:14] <JonathanKent> yes that aline :)
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> BlueEagle some routers, even when port forwarding is enabled, will always accept connections to the external IP From inside the network
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> BlueEagle  mostly older and shittier routers though, I don't believe netgears typically have that problem
[06:15] <Dark_pahnt0m> I am logged in btw
[06:15] <FLeiXiuS> daddydoof: What was your question?
[06:15] <nightshade> ok so i type lspci and check the chipset?
[06:15] <BlueEagle> flieslikeabrick: Oh, really. Well that's another thing I learned today.
[06:15] <Dark_pahnt0m> How do  ipartition thsi windows HD?
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> BlueEagle  yep ;)
[06:15] <majd> Hey, i'm trying to install mysql on apache...i uncommented "extension=mysql.so" from php.ini...restarted apache...nothing
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> majd mysql really isn't related to apache at all
[06:15] <daddydoof> FleiXius sorry I was trying ti on another channe;
[06:15] <navy> k that worked, thanks FliesLikeABrick
[06:15] <WhyvasLT> can you wire the computer into the network temporarily?
[06:15] <daddydoof> I have a small app named SVGpage
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> it is a separate server that is accessed often through php
[06:16] <nightshade> i need to write all this down because i'm testing the Live CD first before i install it
[06:16] <rcsolutions> How do I delete a path ? (the command)
[06:16] <BlueEagle> majd: ps aux|grep mysql
[06:16] <Dark_pahnt0m> Ello, anyone there?
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> navy yep I see from here that it works now
[06:16] <BlueEagle> rcsolutions: rm will remove files. rmdir will remove (you guessed it) directories
[06:16] <WhyvasLT> no there should be a d-link line with a chipset, something like atheros, prism, broadcom ect
[06:16] <majd> BlueEagle, majd     20368  0.0  0.0   3064   760 pts/1    S+   00:16   0:00 grep mysql
[06:16] <nightshade> BlueEagle; what do i do after i type lspci and get the chipset information?
[06:16] <daddydoof> FleiXius I have bothered you enough tonight
[06:16] <BlueEagle> majd: Is that the only line?
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> rcsolutions also you can use rm -r (again for recursive)
[06:16] <majd> BlueEagle, yeah
[06:16] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m partitioning an empty drive ?  or editing existing partitions ?
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> intelikey  it looks like editing existing
[06:17] <BlueEagle> majd: sudo aptitude install mysql && sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[06:17] <FLeiXiuS> daddydoof: I'm knoweldgable and quite helpful, more helpful than some in here.  So use me while you can :-)  Otherwise I'm out.
[06:17] <rcsolutions> I dont know what recursive means
[06:17] <Dark_pahnt0m> partitioning a previous partition
[06:17] <Dark_pahnt0m> editing
[06:17] <GTroy> what do you do if you can't cd into a directory?
[06:17] <BlueEagle> rcsolutions: dictionary.com
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> rcsolutions  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Arecursive&btnG=Google+Search
[06:17] <GTroy> in a wine folder?
[06:17] <Dark_pahnt0m> I am in the disk options under administration
[06:17] <Fujitsu> You give us more information to help you, GTroy.
[06:18] <Dark_pahnt0m> the delet & create buttons are not lit up
[06:18] <majd> BlueEagle, i did that and it did some stuff...then the last line was : sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found
[06:18] <FLeiXiuS> GTroy: Why wouldn't you be able to CD into a directory?  File permissions are the only thing holding you back.
[06:18] <ufo> !debootstrap
[06:18] <GTroy> no such file of directory
[06:18] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[06:18] <YukiCuss> GTroy, that directory doesn't exist.
[06:18] <FLeiXiuS> Fujitsu: Oh gosh..lamo.
[06:18] <GTroy> but konqueror goes into it
[06:18] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m you need to use something like gkparted  or  the like to shrink your existing partitions to make space for new a ext3 partition    see the ubotu link on  !ntfs
[06:18] <FLeiXiuS> Fujitsu: lmao *
[06:18] <intelikey> !ntfs
[06:18] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:18] <YukiCuss> GTroy, you're not typing it correctly.
[06:19] <GTroy> YukiCuss: i hope you're right
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> GTroy  generally error messages are saying the right thing
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> if it says that the file or directory doesn't exist, then you're not typing it right
[06:19] <GTroy> well this is a wine file
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> doesn't matter
[06:19] <GTroy> ok cool
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> did you type wine or .wine ?
[06:19] <Dark_pahnt0m> I have 2 partitions, I want too repartition entire HD so I can make it a linux HD
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> dark_light  basically you need to resize one of the existing partitions to make room for another one for linux
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m  rather ^
[06:20] <Fujitsu> Yes, Dark_pahnt0m? What's the current layout?
[06:20] <GTroy> I'm in /.wine/drive_c/windows/
[06:20] <BlueEagle> majd: ls -l /etc/init.d/|grep mys
[06:20] <Dark_pahnt0m> its a fat32 partition
[06:20] <YukiCuss> GTroy, perhaps you mean ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> yes GTroy  what YukiCuss  said
[06:20] <GTroy> YukiCuss: sorry, you're right
[06:20] <majd> BlueEagle, that didn't return anything
[06:20] <BlueEagle> majd: Very odd.
[06:20] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m then just boot the install cd and start the install,  when prompted about the partitions  erace entire disk.
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> GTroy ~ means /home/username if you didn't know that
[06:20] <BlueEagle> majd: Hang on.
[06:21] <majd> ok
[06:21] <Dark_pahnt0m> 7.5 gig in  1 partition another 1 gig in another
[06:21] <zebrafusion> Can someone tell me the file name of the hotplug blacklist for kernel modules? My PCMCIA car is loading the wrong driver
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> GTroy  so if your username is gtroy, ~ is the same as /home/gtroy
[06:21] <aaron_> hey guys i just installed ubuntu onto a comp i made in a cardboard box lmfao
[06:21] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m then just boot the install cd and start the install,  when prompted about the partitions  erace entire disk.
[06:21] <crimsun> zebrafusion: /etc/hotplug/blacklist (breezy)
[06:21] <GTroy> FliesLikeABrick: gotcha
[06:21] <aaron_> but im new to linux/ubunti
[06:21] <Dark_pahnt0m> I dont wanna end up re-installing linux by mistake, it was hell trying 2 get networking going
[06:21] <BlueEagle> majd: sudo aptitude install mysql-server
[06:21] <aaron_> can someone help me
[06:21] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, take a picture and link me!
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> so whatcha need aaron_  ?
[06:21] <aaron_> i got a question
[06:21] <BlueEagle> majd: that should do the trick
[06:21] <Nickgarvey> :-P
[06:21] <zebrafusion> crimsun, what about Dapper?
[06:21] <YukiCuss> BlueEagle, do you mean apt-get ?
[06:21] <BlueEagle> majd: then: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> Nickgarvey  if you want some interesting case mods, take a look at http://bit-tech.net 's forums
[06:21] <BlueEagle> yukicuss: No, I mean aptitude
[06:22] <YukiCuss> majd, try sudo apt-get install mysql-server instead.
[06:22] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[06:22] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:22] <aaron_> i guess i have a intel webcam here but i doubt ubuntu has drivers for it
[06:22] <YukiCuss> ..
[06:22] <YukiCuss> Hm.
[06:22] <BlueEagle> !aptitude
[06:22] <Dark_pahnt0m> Ok if it messes up & I have too re-do linux I gunna kill you :P
[06:22] <YukiCuss> majd, ignore me.
[06:22] <BlueEagle> !info aptitude
[06:22] <ubotu> aptitude: (terminal-based apt frontend), section admin, is important. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-3ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 978 kB, Installed size: 6120 kB
[06:22] <crimsun> zebrafusion: dapper has no hotplug. Use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-something
[06:22] <majd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:22] <majd> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  google the model number along with some words like ubuntu and linux
[06:22] <YukiCuss> BlueEagle, a good point.
[06:22] <zebrafusion> I read the arhives about my issue and they said it was to be fixed in DapperDrake ... But I reformated my harddrive, installed the newest Dapper build and it still did NOT work by default. It keeps loading the wrong driver
[06:22] <aaron_> ok heres my question
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  that will give you a good idea about how the support is for it
[06:22] <zebrafusion> crimsun, do you have any advice?
[06:22] <majd> nvm, i had synaptic open
[06:22] <Nickgarvey> !noob
[06:22] <ubotu> from memory, noob is a four letter word, just like rtfm or jfgi. Don't use it
[06:22] <aaron_> whats a good solid web server for ubuntu
[06:22] <crimsun> zebrafusion: did you use the correct location?
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  apache
[06:22] <ufo> aaron_, apache
[06:22] <aaron_> just like hosting not to tricky stuff
[06:22] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, apache!
[06:22] <aaron_> no php etc
[06:23] <aaron_> just straight html
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  apache
[06:23] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m then you are running linux ?     easier still.     sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?     where ? is the correct letter.     probably c  maybe b     use fdisk -l  to find the correct letter.
[06:23] <aaron_> how do i go about setting it up
[06:23] <Nickgarvey> don't need to put php on it
[06:23] <aaron_> im so damn new to unix
[06:23] <Nickgarvey> !apache
[06:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell aaron_  about apache
[06:23] <aaron_> im still learning packaging etc
[06:23] <majd> BlueEagle, what do i do in postfix?
[06:23] <Nickgarvey> !postfix
[06:23] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nickgarvey
[06:23] <BlueEagle> majd: If you don't know what postfix is for then remove it.
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  all you need to do is be patient with linux, and itll completely blow you away.  just don't lose your patience with it :P
[06:23] <Disorganized> anyone here have problems with vnc and not being able to find the 'fixed' font?
[06:23] <aaron_> is there a package you can download that will setup itself for you sort of like a installwizard for windows but for ubuntu cuz im a damn noob
[06:24] <crimsun> easyubuntu?
[06:24] <majd> k, i put no configuration
[06:24] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, its called apt-get
[06:24] <Nickgarvey> !apt
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,  its discussed a lot in the forums/wiki..
[06:24] <ubotu> apt is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[06:24] <aaron_> flies, unfortunatly ive done that several times
[06:24] <zebrafusion> crimsun, what do you mean? I checked the device manager and my wireless PCMCIA card and it says it's using orinoco_cs.
[06:24] <htrp> where can i find 'vino'?
[06:24] <Nickgarvey> !easyubuntu
[06:24] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[06:24] <htrp> its installed, but i can't find it
[06:24] <aaron_> tried mandrake got pissed off , tried redhat got pissed off , tried debian , tried gentoo
[06:24] <zebrafusion> crimsun, what "correct location"
[06:24] <Disorganized> Dr_Willis, i tried the sym link suggested, but it didn't fix the problem
[06:24] <aaron_> lol
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> well aaron_ , don't ;)  in the end it'll be less frustrating than windows
[06:24] <aaron_> i have ADD
[06:24] <Linux-n00b> very much a n00b here..........need help with logging into root on Ubuntu.........just installed it
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,  several fix's - easy one is to edit the 'vncserver' script and change where it looks for /etc/X11/xf86config - to make it look for xorg.conf
[06:24] <crimsun> zebrafusion: you can't use /etc/hotplug/blacklist in dapper, since dapper has no hotplug. You have to use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-something
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  linux is more friendly to new users than most distrobution, including mandrake
[06:24] <zebrafusion> crimsun, okay. Is that forsure going to NOT load the driver?
[06:24] <DBO> Linux-n00b, why do you need root access?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,  the link fix - should work. :P you may of did it wrong. lol.
[06:25] <BlueEagle> !tell linux-n00b about sudo
[06:25] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m  sorry we went the long way to get to the easy answer.   it helps if you give all pertenant information to begin with.  :)
[06:25] <Linux-n00b> nvidia driver instal :-/
[06:25] <Fujitsu> Mandrake /is/ Linux, FliesLikeABrick.
[06:25] <FliesLikeABrick> ffs Fujitsu  i meant ubuntu
[06:25] <crimsun> zebrafusion: no, I can't say for sure because I don't have your hardware and don't know your precise config
[06:25] <aaron_> so is there a apache package that is offered in some sort of setup/autoextract/auto setup that i can download
[06:25] <FliesLikeABrick> thats what i get for driving back to school at 3am
[06:25] <Disorganized> Dr_Willis, the link i made was: "ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/bin/X11 "
[06:25] <abonilla> Hi, should scp -r E* - V* bla@bla:/home copy everything from E* to V*?
[06:25] <zebrafusion> crimsun, then I'll add the module name to "etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - I see the file
[06:25] <BlueEagle> aaron_: sudo aptitude install apache
[06:25] <Linux-n00b> BlueEagle, nvidia driver install is telling me i need root
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,  i dont have it memorized lol. :P  i was thinking the link was from some font dir to some other place.. not the bin dir.
[06:26] <DBO> Linux-n00b, did you look at the nvidia driver walkthrough?
[06:26] <DBO> it tells you how to do it
[06:26] <Fujitsu> abonilla, [E-V] *.
[06:26] <Dark_pahnt0m> acadently closed xirc what did you say??
[06:26] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: sudo is your friend
[06:26] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m then you are running linux ?     easier still.     sudo cfdisk /dev/hd?     where ? is the correct letter.     probably c  maybe b     use fdisk -l  to find the correct letter.
[06:26] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m  sorry we went the long way to get to the easy answer.   it helps if you give all pertenant information to begin with.  :)
[06:26] <Linux-n00b> BlueEagle, theres a walkthrough? o.0
[06:26] <abonilla> Fujitsu: that looks better, but will mine work?
[06:26] <Disorganized> Dr_Willis, hehe, fair enough. also, i tried searching my system for xorg.conf, but it's not there.
[06:26] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: sudo ./nvidia-driver-filename.bin
[06:26] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: that should do it in most cases.
[06:26] <DBO> Linux-n00b, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[06:26] <Linux-n00b> BlueEagle, thanks, i'll try it now
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,  what version ya yusing?
[06:27] <htrp> where can i find 'vino'?
[06:27] <htrp> its installed, but i can't find it
[06:27] <Dark_pahnt0m> oh ok :P
[06:27] <abonilla> Fujitsu: it's going now but I have no idea if it will continue going till V*
[06:27] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: You obviously need to change the filename to what ever the driver is called.
[06:27] <frank23> Linux-n00b: you know you can install the nvidia driver with synaptic, right?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:27] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: you might also need to make the file executable with chmod u+x nvidia-driver-filename.bin
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> !info vino
[06:28] <Linux-n00b> BlueEagle, yeh, i did the whole chmod +x "name here" thing, still gave me a msg telling me i need root
[06:28] <frank23> !tell Linux-n00b about nvidia
[06:28] <ubotu> vino: (VNC server for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 164 kB, Installed size: 1772 kB
[06:28] <Disorganized> Dr_Willis, i'm useing ubuntu 5.10.   ... ya, xorg.conf isn't there.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> htrp,  tats the gnome-shared desktop tool.
[06:28] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m  if you need help with that (should be streight forword)  haller at these guys.     i'll be back in a bit.
[06:28] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: sudo chmod u+x filename
[06:28] <htrp> i know
[06:28] <JonathanKent> How in alien i can convert a bin a deb in alien what is the comand?
[06:28] <htrp> where can i find that?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,  try  "X -version"
[06:29] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: For every command you run that need root access type sudo in front of it. That is how you do stuff as root in ubuntu.
[06:29] <Disorganized> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> htrp,  its in the gnome menus somewhere under shared dsektop or somthing. From what little ive used VINO - it sort of Sucks. compared to a stand alone vnc session.
[06:29] <frank23> JonathanKent: alien can convert rpm to deb
[06:29] <aaron_> Reading extended state information
[06:29] <aaron_> Initializing package states... Done
[06:29] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$
[06:29] <aaron_> ok what now?
[06:29] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: if you really really need a root shell type sudo -i
[06:29] <wenko> anyone able to tell me the networking password for ubuntu
[06:30] <Disorganized> Dr_Willis, I used apt-get, but i guess i'm still missing a package or something
[06:30] <majd> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:30] <majd> ; returns:  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)... httpd (pid 14201?) not running
[06:30] <majd> yet apache is running....
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> wenko your user password
[06:30] <wenko> i havent set one
[06:30] <wenko> its on the live CD
[06:30] <frank23> wenko: oh then its ubuntu
[06:30] <BlueEagle> majd: is mysql running now?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Disorganized,   check the gnome help. It was in one of the menus.. i dont use gnome so cant tell ya where.
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> wenko open a terminao and do "passwd"
[06:30] <wenko> sigh
[06:30] <BlueEagle> majd: ps aux|grep mysql to find out
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> wenko to set a password
[06:30] <Dark_pahnt0m> yay I think it worked
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> terminal*
[06:30] <Dark_pahnt0m> thx guys
[06:31] <wenko> thanks but i dont have it open atm
[06:31] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, so what did you do again? apt-get install apache2?
[06:31] <FliesLikeABrick> majd do killall httpd
[06:31] <majd> BlueEagle, yeah, it is
[06:31] <Disorganized> Dr_Willis, I dont use X localy, i dont have console access to the system. i'm setting this up for remote X only.
[06:31] <FliesLikeABrick> majd then try restarting it
[06:31] <majd> FliesLikeABrick, httpd: no process killed
[06:31] <BlueEagle> majd: try to stop apache with /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[06:31] <babo> How do I associate an application with a protocol in firefox ?
[06:31] <aaron_> apt-get install apache2
[06:31] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install apache2
[06:31] <aaron_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:31] <aaron_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:31] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$
[06:31] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[06:31] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[06:31] <Kaiser_Away> aaron_: sudo
[06:32] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:32] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry majd i usually install apache from source, the process may be named something different from apt
[06:32] <majd> oh
[06:32] <aaron_> oh here we go
[06:32] <Dark_pahnt0m> You di say too format using exstention 3 correct?
[06:32] <abonilla> Fujitsu: thanks. That was the way.
[06:33] <Dark_pahnt0m> is that the format  isue?
[06:33] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, yeah in general when you get a permission denied, toss a sudo infront (assuming you know what you are doing!)
[06:33] <Dark_pahnt0m> I use*
[06:33] <Fujitsu> No problem, abonilla.
[06:33] <Amaranth> what do you guys thing of http://www.realistanew.com/random/new_alacarte.png for the new layout for alacarte?
[06:33] <aaron_> yea sudo means root access right?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> Dark_pahnt0m,  You mean Ext3 ?  :P
[06:33] <BlueEagle> aaron_: man sudo
[06:33] <Dark_pahnt0m> yes I had 2 format HD I picked ext 3 as format
[06:33] <aaron_> sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:33] <majd> FliesLikeABrick, BlueEagle, i stopped it, then started it, and it worked
[06:33] <majd> thanks
[06:33] <Dark_pahnt0m> there several choices
[06:34] <aaron_> Setting up apache2 (2.0.54-5ubuntu4) ...
[06:34] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$
[06:34] <aaron_> ok what now
[06:34] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, whats your IP address
[06:34] <Nickgarvey> wait I know
[06:34] <Nickgarvey> whois
[06:34] <BlueEagle> majd: Good for you. :)
[06:34] <majd> thanks for the help
[06:34] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, forward your ports I guess
[06:34] <Dark_pahnt0m> uuum now how do  Iget my computer on my desktoop instead of having 2 make 2 icons for HD's??
[06:35] <Linux-n00b> BlueEagle, frank23 , thanks for the help, worked great :)
[06:35] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  find out what the model name of your router is and follow the instructions at www.portforward.com to forward port 80 in the router to your desktop that you just set apache up on
[06:35] <BlueEagle> linux-n00b: Good for you. :)
[06:35] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, www.portforward.com
[06:36] <Nickgarvey> heh thats one of my favorite reasons too Linux-n00b
[06:36] <aaron_> i got a netgear wgr614V5
[06:36] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, go to that site?
[06:36] <FliesLikeABrick> k aaron_  now go to the site and forward port 80 to the IP of the computer you just installed apache on
[06:36] <FliesLikeABrick> you can find out the IP using "ifconfig" at the prompt
[06:37] <Dark_pahnt0m> Hey I got my new HD installed & it still says its HDb & in the Gui it says it a cdrom 1
[06:37] <Linux-n00b> going to explore Ubuntu a bit more, I'm sure i'll be back here heh
[06:37] <Dark_pahnt0m> how do I fix that problem?
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m an IDE hard drive?
[06:37] <Dark_pahnt0m> yeah
[06:37] <Dark_pahnt0m> its on as a secondary
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> did you make sure you set the jumper right?
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> Nickgarvey thats why I enjoy sitting here helping people out so much, it motivates people to use linux ;)
[06:37] <Dark_pahnt0m> jumper on cable select
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m  is the other one on the same cable set to cable select too?
[06:38] <Dark_pahnt0m> the bios picked it up no problem
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> ok dark_light
[06:38] <neo911> anyone here knowledgeable on LDAP? thanks...
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> dark_light  do fdisk -l
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m  rather
[06:38] <Nickgarvey> same, I figure if 5 minutes of my time will help someone use linux for life its worth it
[06:38] <Dark_pahnt0m> might be, linux that picky :P
[06:38] <Nickgarvey> of course 5 minutes can turn into 5 hours but eh
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m if the bios was fine then linux will be with it
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m do fdisk -l and see what shows up
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> you have to do it with sudo or as root
[06:38] <neo911> why would anyone get this error when doing an ldapadd SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started
[06:38] <neo911> ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Internal (implementation specific) error (80)
[06:38] <neo911>         additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database
[06:38] <Dark_pahnt0m> K
[06:38] <Nickgarvey> !paste!
[06:38] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:38] <dark_light> you have to press tab two times FliesLikeABrick =)
[06:39] <FliesLikeABrick> dark_light  I'm well aware
[06:39] <blueumbrella> Hi all...very new to linux...loaded ubuntu, worked great for a while, then after logging in with password it comes up with just a blank brown screen. Any thoghts?
[06:39] <Nickgarvey> blueumbrella, how long did you wait?
[06:39] <FliesLikeABrick> blueumbrella did you upgrade your kernel and forget to upgrade the kernel headers too?
[06:39] <blueumbrella> a while. It worked fine for the first few loads
[06:40] <blueumbrella> i just shut it down and it wouldn't reload
[06:40] <Nickgarvey> FliesLikeABrick, I barely know what that ment, I doubt they do heh
[06:40] <_vijay> hi everyone, how to save files in /var/www, because they are under root permission??
[06:40] <Nickgarvey> blueumbrella, odd, did you try a different username?
[06:40] <FliesLikeABrick> _vijay  either use sudo to change who owns /var/www or at least change the permissions on it to allow other people to write to it
[06:40] <blueumbrella> no, i used my standard one
[06:40] <DogWater> Anyone ever gotten X/GDM to work on a dell 6400 inspiron?
[06:41] <blueumbrella> should I try a new one?
[06:41] <FliesLikeABrick> yes blueumbrella
[06:42] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m  every thing work ok ?     (i'm back)
[06:42] <_vijay> FilesLikeABrick:ok, thanks
[06:42] <Dark_pahnt0m> nope
[06:42] <intelikey> what problem ?
[06:42] <Dark_pahnt0m> is there a format command on terminal?
[06:42] <aaron_> <IP_ADDRESS> does not load for me
[06:42] <Dark_pahnt0m> I cant get this HD 2 reconise decides as cd rom 1
[06:42] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  does <IP_ADDRESS> load?
[06:42] <intelikey> yes.   have you made an ext# partition Dark_pahnt0m ?
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m mkfs -t ext3
[06:43] <Dark_pahnt0m> just 1 partition
[06:43] <aaron_> yeah it asks for username and pw
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m or mkfs.ext3 /dev/device#partition
[06:43] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico! Hello nalioth, _jason!
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  k use that instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:43] <aaron_> bam im in
[06:43] <nalioth> lgc: howdy
[06:43] <aaron_> i remember this
[06:43] <Dark_pahnt0m> havent reformatted it yet.. I deleted partition then write too it then redid partion again
[06:43] <aaron_> i forwarded a few ports on my windows box before
[06:43] <aaron_> so what port is apache
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  80
[06:44] <djs_2_6> Hey, anyone in here familiar with XEON processors?
[06:44] <FliesLikeABrick> djs_2_6 I'm sure at least a couple people are, what can we help you with?
[06:44] <lgc> howdy nalioth. I could use some of your vast knowledge again!
[06:44] <aaron_> and what folder does it serve the http pages from
[06:44] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m   do  "sudo fdisk -l "     and  then  " mount "    and tell me the name of the ext# partition that is not  mounted.  i.e.  doesn't show up in the mount command.
[06:44] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  /var/www
[06:44] <Fujitsu> hat aspect of them, djs_2_6>
[06:44] <Fujitsu> *?
[06:44] <aaron_> my friends got a dual xeon 2.0 ghz setup
[06:44] <Fujitsu> *What
[06:44] <aaron_> running debian
[06:44] <nalioth> lgc: there are many people in the channel who can help you
[06:45] <lgc> nalioth, should I take that as "I'm too busy for you"?
[06:45] <CryoTox> Is there a command to set a folder to non-read only?
[06:45] <aaron_> do i need to forward it to my internal ip (192) or external? 70
[06:45] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox chmod ?
[06:45] <Nickgarvey> what do you mean CryoTox
[06:45] <DogWater> i have about 40 Dell 1800 3.2ghzs at my office
[06:45] <DogWater> but they're still in boxes
[06:45] <nalioth> lgc: just ask the channel your question, and folks will help you (i am one of the folks)
[06:45] <DogWater> lol
[06:45] <djs_2_6> FliesLikeABrick , Fujitsu - Well, I am trying to pick between 2 XEON 1.8s, or 2 XEON 2.0s.  There is a $22 difference, and I am wondering how much of a difference in performance there is between the two, and whether the extra money is worth it...
[06:45] <FliesLikeABrick> DogWater  I'll give you my address and you can send me a couple, k?
[06:46] <Fujitsu> Not a lot of difference...
[06:46] <DogWater> nah the dedicated server customers like to lease them
[06:46] <YukiCuss> djs_2_6, about 200MHz difference, I'd say.
[06:46] <intelikey> CryoTox chmod     man chmod    and use sparingly
[06:46] <djs_2_6> YukiCuss - Very funny...
[06:46] <Fujitsu> DogWater, ask the question please :)
[06:46] <YukiCuss> :)
[06:46] <FliesLikeABrick> djs_2_6 it depends entirely on whether you want to spend another $22 or not
[06:46] <ic56> problem with firefox under GNOME on ubuntu 5.10: drop-down menus are white on white when highlighted (i.e. when mouse pointer is over them).  Any thoughts?
[06:47] <djs_2_6> FliesLikeABrick - I am just curious if it is worth the extra in performance...
[06:47] <FliesLikeABrick> ic56 have you done anything to modify the appearance of your firefox or is this the default install?
[06:47] <Fujitsu> $22 is nothing...
[06:47] <FliesLikeABrick> djs_2_6  if it was me, I would spend the extra $22 if thats the kind of response you're looking for
[06:47] <Dark_pahnt0m> name is dev/hdb/ & says its there I activated it using the gnome gui disk managment after formatting it with ext 3
[06:47] <Fujitsu> I would spend the extra $22.
[06:47] <ic56> default install. except that I changed the root window background to a solid colour instead of the sunset image.
[06:47] <Fujitsu> You may need the extra 200MHz at some point.
[06:48] <YukiCuss> Fujitsu, when you've run out of MHz, you might just need that extra 200 for a short while.. right?
[06:48] <djs_2_6> Well, I also need heatsink/fan/mounting setups, and have no idea on them...
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> k Dark_pahnt0m did you partition it or just format the entire device?
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m do fdisk -l as sudo and paste the contents to me in a PM.  only paste the contents having to do with that device
[06:48] <Dark_pahnt0m> partitioned didnt reformat yet
[06:48] <lgc> my problem is this: I really don't know much about burning CDs, so I ask this stupid question: I download an ISO image and then I want to burn it onto CD. The file I end up with on the CD is the same one as that on the HD, or should it be transformed to another format?
[06:48] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m ok where do you want to mount this new partition.   (although dev/hdb/ would be a directory. not a partition)  ?
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> lgc  use k3b and use that to burn the image
[06:49] <FliesLikeABrick> lgc you need to tell the burning software to burn the image, not just burn the image file
[06:49] <intelikey> dev/hdb are you sure it's not /dev/hdb1  ?
[06:49] <FliesLikeABrick> lgc an ISO file is a file that just contains the contents of the CD as one large file
[06:49] <intelikey> Dark_pahnt0m ?
[06:49] <nalioth> lgc: "burn cd image" or "burn as image"
[06:49] <FliesLikeABrick> lgc and therefore a program that knows that will burn it in the proper way such that the files will show up normally
[06:50] <ocxic> hey all
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2490 cylinders
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> /dev/hda1   *           1        2385    19157481   83  Linux
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> /dev/hda2            2386        2490      843412+   5  Extended
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> /dev/hda5            2386        2490      843381   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:50] <CryoTox> Okay where were we?
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> Disk /dev/hdb: 10.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1292 cylinders
[06:50] <frank23> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m> Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes
[06:50] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m I said paste it in a PM to me, not in the channel
[06:50] <Dark_pahnt0m>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:50] <salah> Hey ,
[06:50] <lgc> FliesLikeABrick, nalioth, that's where my problems begin: what the "#$"# is an "image"?
[06:50] <ocxic> i need some help getting Tovid running is ther someone eho can help
[06:50] <salah> What is good for voice recording?
[06:50] <aaron_> how do u find out the direct ip address of the current machine ur on
[06:50] <FliesLikeABrick> lgc I just explained that when I said what an ISO file is
[06:50] <nalioth> lgc: anything .iso is an image file
[06:51] <Frogzoo> !tell dark_pahnt0m about pastebin
[06:51] <CryoTox> Is there a command to set a folder to non-read only?
[06:51] <jb1> salah: do you mean what program is good for recording?
[06:51] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  read on how to use chmod
[06:51] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  or ask a more specific question
[06:51] <salah> jbl: yah
[06:51] <Fujitsu> !permissions
[06:51] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[06:52] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, any recommendations for heatsink/fan setups for an Intel SE7500WV2??
[06:52] <Fujitsu> Look at that, CryoTox.
[06:52] <jb1> salah: Audacity is easy to use and should do the trick for easy stuff.
[06:52] <lgc> FliesLikeABrick, nalioth I missed the answer the first time. Sorry. Let me try and do the silly thing again and remember the procedure...
[06:52] <Fujitsu> djs_2_6, this isn't the right place to discuss that.
[06:52] <nalioth> Dark_pahnt0m: please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead
[06:52] <salah> jbl: how can I get it?
[06:52] <sartan> lots of nicks here.
[06:52] <djs_2_6> Fujitsu - Where would you suggest I discuss it?
[06:52] <YukiCuss> sartan, 609.
[06:52] <sartan> yessir
[06:52] <Dark_pahnt0m> Like I would know what the hell pastebin is o how too use it :p
[06:52] <navy> can I speak with nick please?
[06:52] <Dark_pahnt0m> is it a script?
[06:52] <Fujitsu> djs_2_6, not here. Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <Fujitsu> !tell Dark_pahnt0m about pastebin
[06:53] <Frogzoo> Dark_pahnt0m: read the msg from ubotu
[06:53] <aaron_> flies like a brick
[06:53] <jb1> salah: "sudo apt-get install audacity" in a terminal window or open up Synaptic and get it from there
[06:53] <aaron_> are you there
[06:53] <Nickgarvey> whats the command to sync my clock?
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m www.pastebin.com
[06:53] <salah> jbl: is it in the Synaptic?
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> yes aaron_  ?
[06:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Dark_pahnt0m about paste
[06:53] <jb1> salah: yes, it is in Synaptic
[06:53] <Frogzoo> Dark_pahnt0m: don't take the kick personally, it's these rules that keep the chan usable for everyone
[06:53] <aaron_> i try to forward port 80 to my external ip (70.xxxxxxx) and it says must be lan ip
[06:53] <CryoTox> Okay... It's un related to permmissions I'm pretty sure. When I try to acess my mp3 player it allows me, but when I try to delete I get the error, "Can not delete, disk is read only" How do I correct this?
[06:53] <aaron_> but then i put in my router ip then it says cant be router ip
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  yes, on the ubuntu computer do the command "ifconfig"
[06:53] <Fujitsu> You want to forward to your /internal/ IP, aaron_.
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> and put in the IP that shows up there
[06:53] <salah> jbl: Thanks man
[06:53] <Dark_pahnt0m> Tell mal & fro about spamming me with pastebin bot
[06:54] <djs_2_6> Fujitsu, thank you
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  like I told you when I told you about port forwarding ;)
[06:54] <jb1> salah: np. hope it works for you.
[06:54] <intelikey> sorry Dark_pahnt0m your flood got cut off before it got to hdb   so i guess you will need to pastebin the output   of  these two commands for me please.     sudo fdisk -l   &&   mount                         and tell me where you would like the new partition mounted?  example; /media/disk2
[06:54] <djs_2_6> Fujitsu, btw, love your hard drives...
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  it will likely be <IP_ADDRESS>* something
[06:54] <moulty> hi
[06:54] <Fujitsu> djs_2_6, a Fujitsu HDD was where I originally got my name.
[06:54] <aaron_> i tryed 1.2 but no luck
[06:54] <YukiCuss> ^_^
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  what shows up in ifconfig as the IP?
[06:54] <aaron_> BINGO
[06:54] <aaron_> 1.3
[06:55] <moulty> Anyone here help with driver install problems?
[06:55] <YukiCuss> djs_2_6, he needed a nickname since he was using his real name as a username on a Linux system (I said no), so closest object was a Fujitsu hard drive ..
[06:55] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[06:55] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:55] <CryoTox> FliesLikeABrick: Was that specific enough?
[06:55] <djs_2_6> Fujitsu, so are you a bot, born of chips and wires...?
[06:55] <FliesLikeABrick> yes CryoTox  much better
[06:55] <Fujitsu> Not quite :P
[06:55] <lgc> FliesLikeABrick, nalioth, I get "Do you want to create a disk that only contains CD images?" ("Exit" or "Continue")
[06:55] <aaron_> BINGO
[06:55] <aaron_> its up!
[06:56] <aaron_> thanks man
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox when you mount the filesystem that is on the mp3 player, you have to tell it to allow people to modify the files, besides root
[06:56] <nalioth> lgc: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox how did you mount the filesystem, or was it mounted automatically?
[06:56] <aaron_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> doesn't work aaron_
[06:56] <Frogzoo> !tell aaron_ about enter
[06:56] <Dark_pahnt0m> Mount it?/ it keeps coming up as a cdrom How dop  I mount that?
[06:56] <ic56> here goes again: problem with firefox under GNOME on ubuntu 5.10: drop-down menus are white on white when highlighted (i.e. when mouse pointer is over them).  This is a vanilla Ubuntu install, except that I changed the background to a solid colour.  Thoughts?
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> Dark_pahnt0m what makes you think it is your cdrom?
[06:56] <Nickgarvey> no luck aaron_
[06:57] <Nickgarvey> aaron_, /etc/hosts.allow
[06:57] <yggdrasil_> does any one have any familiarity with this : controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:57] <yggdrasil_>  , its working but its all messed up.. using a dell latitude c400....
[06:57] <Nickgarvey> !hosts
[06:57] <ubotu> Nickgarvey: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:57] <Nickgarvey> !hosts.allow
[06:57] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nickgarvey
[06:57] <jb1> aaron: page doesn;t load for me
[06:57] <FliesLikeABrick> Nickgarvey  it is default install of apache, hosts.allow doesn't matter
[06:57] <Nickgarvey> oh
[06:57] <Nickgarvey> um why would it work for him and not for us then?
[06:57] <JonathanKent> !find install.sfx
[06:57] <Dark_pahnt0m> its not it sasy in partition its a HD in myy computer it says its a cdrom
[06:57] <moulty> i downloaded the Nvidia NFORCE driver .run install pakage, i can only run it in root account (could not make term root mode from main account-as described in guide)......
[06:57] <aaron_> it works for me
[06:57] <FliesLikeABrick> hm
[06:57] <Nickgarvey> that link you gave us?
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  does it work from another computer?
[06:58] <Nickgarvey> when I nmap aaron_ I get nothing
[06:58] <aaron_> yea
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  did you try it from another computer in your house?
[06:58] <aaron_> Icon  Name                    Last modified      Size  Description[DIR]  apache2-default/        07-Jan-2006 08:41    -
[06:58] <aaron_> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) Server at <IP_ADDRESS> Port 80
[06:58] <aaron_> no i cant
[06:58] <aaron_> because im using that comps keyboard
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_ what do you mean you can't? as in you don't have another computer or as in it doesn't work?
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> oh
[06:58] <moulty> .... from root account; the .run runs, then quits with an errror acount not having until install
[06:58] <jb1> aaron: I can't ping the IP of your page.
[06:58] <moulty> ed*
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  what did you put in as the IP to forward to in the router ?
[06:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'install.sfx' returned no results.
[06:58] <aaron_> the 1.3 one
[06:59] <moulty> about*
[06:59] <CryoTox> Okay... It's un related to permmissions I'm pretty sure. When I try to acess my mp3 player it allows me, but when I try to delete I get the error, "Can not delete, disk is read only" How do I correct this?
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  that is the IP that shows up in ifconfig?
[06:59] <aaron_> yea
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  who is your internet service provider?
[06:59] <Nickgarvey> CryoTox, are you reading off your windows partition?
[06:59] <Frogzoo> CryoTox: mebbe the filesystem is mounted ro - check with 'mount'
[06:59] <aaron_> cox
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  sorry, i replied to you but you must have been disconnected by then
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox how did you mount the filesystem, or was it mounted automatically?
[07:00] <CryoTox> Automaticly
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  sudo nano /etc/ftsab
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> er
[07:00] <Frogzoo> CryoTox: so it's an ntfs partition?
[07:00] <Nickgarvey> don't have him make an ntfs partition writable though
[07:00] <blueumbrella> Hi again. I'm still getting a blank brown screen after i log in. I can move the curser but nothing else. All was working earlier.
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> Frogzoo  i think it is a fat partition mounted for write only by root
[07:00] <moulty> Anyone installed the Nvidia NFORCE driver pack.run?
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  it appears that cox may block port 80 to prevent people from running webservers.  you can run it on another port
[07:00] <Frogzoo> FliesLikeABrick: check with 'mount'
[07:00] <moulty> ahh frogzoo!.. hello again!
[07:01] <aaron_> oh great fun fun
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> aye CryoTox  type "mount" and see what it says for that device
[07:01] <intelikey> !paste
[07:01] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:01] <Frogzoo> moulty: hi!
[07:01] <aaron_> now how do i change the apache config
[07:01] <post_break> is there a way to change the shortcut shit-backspace to something else?
[07:01] <CryoTox> type vfat
[07:01] <post_break> shift
[07:01] <post_break> whoops
[07:01] <post_break> haha
[07:01] <CryoTox> does that help?
[07:01] <jb1> lol post+break
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  what device letter is it?
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> yes CryoTox  that helps
[07:01] <moulty> Frogzoo: guess what.... after I installed that firestarter, Ubuntu would not boot, totaly screwed it was
[07:02] <CryoTox> /dev/sda on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[07:02] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  you need to find the configuration file for apache2, I forget what it is called when installed from apt
[07:02] <Frogzoo> moulty: o_O   .... did your /var or / fill up to 100% ?
[07:02] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox in /etc/fstab, paste us the one line that says /dev/sda in it
[07:02] <post_break> or is that built in?
[07:02] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  only the one line
[07:02] <shrewduser> hey knowledgable people, i need to check on a program to make sure it's working right (debug style, console w.e) how can i do that while the program's running?
[07:02] <post_break> its really annoying when you accidently do it 5 times a day
[07:03] <Neurosis_> i set up ubuntu to try out, i dont recall it ever asking for a root password. Is this normal and can be setup later or??
[07:03] <moulty> nah, it had loads of space, it said it could not mount drives, hence not find files!!!
[07:03] <FliesLikeABrick> shrewduser  what do you need to check to make sure it is running right?
[07:03] <Frogzoo> CryoTox: methinks you need the 'user' option in fstab
[07:03] <Fujitsu> !tell Neurosis_ about root
[07:03] <FliesLikeABrick> Frogzoo  or he needs to change umask to 000
[07:03] <FliesLikeABrick> Frogzoo  either one will work
[07:04] <shrewduser> FliesLikeABrick: well i grabbed wine from the wine repository and installed it and now i'm running SteamInstall.exe and i don't know if all is running smoothly (it's taking it's sweet time)...
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> Frogzoo  user wont work if he has uid and gid set to 1000
[07:04] <CryoTox> FliesLikeABrick: It isn't in there
[07:04] <Dark_pahnt0m> Hello I pasted ur stupid info, Whats the reason I cant partition this basterdchild HD?
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> k CryoTox one second
[07:04] <Nickgarvey> !language
[07:04] <ubotu> it has been said that language is please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[07:04] <FliesLikeABrick> shrewduser  you should see the window with steaminstall if it works.  I have yet to successfully install steam in wine
[07:04] <ic56> Neurosis_: this is normal.  The root account is passwordless on Ubuntu
[07:04] <aaron_> what folder would it be located in
[07:04] <Nickgarvey> !tell Dark_pahnt0m about patience
[07:05] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  do sudo nano /etc/fstab and add this line:
[07:05] <Nickgarvey> !tell Neurosis_ about root
[07:05] <Frogzoo> FliesLikeABrick: uid=1000 is the default user
[07:05] <iwan9900> can i use ubuntu for bandwidth management ?
[07:05] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox add in the line /dev/sda1 /mnt/mp3 vfat umask=000 0 0
[07:05] <ic56> !tell ic56 about root
[07:05] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  also do mkdir /mnt/mp3
[07:05] <Dark_pahnt0m> ore ubotu\
[07:05] <Dark_pahnt0m> ore ubotu\
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell iwan9900 about iptables
[07:06] <Dark_pahnt0m> wth
[07:06] <Neurosis_> thankyou Nickgarvey
[07:06] <FliesLikeABrick> also iwan9900  check out vnstat and iptraf if you're just interested in monitoring bandwidth usage
[07:06] <DarthShrine> :/ OOo won't let me print!
[07:06] <dj-fu> Hi guys, Sorry about earlier with the Router thing. Was a shitty thing to do.
[07:06] <iwan9900> any tools to simplify things (bandwidth management)
[07:06] <CryoTox> After I add the line what do I do?
[07:07] <cyphase> What's a good bitrate to use when converting a DVD to Theora?
[07:07] <jb1> iwan9900: there is a whole subset of programs called tc (Traffic Control) based on the kernel netfilter code
[07:07] <CryoTox> exit terminal and reopen?
[07:07] <protocol1> i seriously need to get me a desk
[07:07] <blueumbrella> Any ideas about getting blank brown screen after log-in?
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  do umount /dev/sda1 then do mount /dev/sda1
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  you have to do both of those as root, then your mp3  player should be mounted at /mnt/mp3
[07:07] <Chodder> #screwbuntu
[07:07] <bosco> why is it telling me that i cant burn an audio cd in a graphical way of doing it cuz i dont have permission i have already mounted the drive but when i do it says for read only why  is that
[07:07] <FliesLikeABrick> Chodder  #notfunny
[07:08] <salah> Hi , How can I resetup my soundcard
[07:08] <Chodder> It's a real channel
[07:08] <salah> I guess I hav some problem here
[07:08] <patrix> hmm wow, tyring to move icons on the gnome desktop, while loggedf in through Xvnc, locks the whole desktop heh
[07:08] <CryoTox> umount: /dev/sda1: not found
[07:08] <jb1> salah: what is the problem
[07:08] <FliesLikeABrick> CryoTox  is your mp3 player plugged in?
[07:08] <CryoTox> yes
[07:08] <FliesLikeABrick> oh CryoTox  sorry change fstab to /dev/sda not /dev/sda1
[07:08] <FliesLikeABrick> my mistake CryoTox
[07:09] <salah> jbl: as u said to install audacity I did but it's msging about sound card problem
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> then try umount /dev/sda and mount /dev/sda
[07:09] <salah> jbl: is there anyway to reinstall sound card driver in Ubuntu?
[07:09] <bosco> why is it telling me that i cant burn an audio cd in a graphical way of doing it cuz i dont have permission i have already mounted the drive but when i do it says for read only why  is that
[07:09] <jb1> salah: I forgot to ask you which distro you are running. Is this in Ubuntu 5.10 or the Dapper beta?
[07:10] <Fujitsu> No Dapper Beta yet, jb1.
[07:10] <salah> jbl: 5.10
[07:10] <CryoTox> FliesLikeABrick: Just went in and xhanged everything
[07:10] <jb1> salah: OK. Do this and Audacity should start working.
[07:10] <Mortalman> Anyone know why both the ubuntu DVD and the kubuntu DVD fail on install or Live cd boot with the message "failed to load installer components"   ??
[07:11] <YukiCuss> ..
[07:11] <salah> jbl: what I have to do?
[07:11] <CryoTox> FliesLikeABrick: Still getting the error...
[07:11] <Frogzoo> !tell Mortalman about fixinstall
[07:11] <jb1> (booting my 5.10 box....wait a sec...)
[07:11] <DarthShrine> In the Printers window it says that it is printing. The printer is a network printer, as my printer (Lexmark Z818) Does not seem to have drivers.
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> Mortalman are you 1) burning the right CD/DVD for your computer architecture, and 2) making sure that it is burned correctly ?
[07:11] <CryoTox> bleh
[07:11] <CryoTox> bbl
[07:11] <salah> jbl: it shows that Host Error
[07:12] <aaron_> whats the config file called to change the port of apache when installed via apt , anyone know? and know where its located? thanks
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  do sudo updatedb then when that is done do locate conf | grep apache
[07:12] <nalioth> Mortalman: did you check the integrity of the iso and the burnt disc?
[07:12] <Mortalman> Frogzoo: nothing at that url mentions my problem.
[07:13] <Frogzoo> aaron_: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[07:13] <salah> jbl: I don't get u. Sorry can u say again?
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks Frogzoo  I felt dead in the water not being able to tell him what it was since I install apache from source
[07:13] <Frogzoo> Mortalman: try disabling acpi
[07:14] <jb1> salah: OK. First thing to try is to kill esd. Audacity will not work with esd running in 5.10. In a terminal window so "sudo killall esd"
[07:14] <bosco> why is it telling me that i cant burn an audio cd in a graphical way of doing it cuz i dont have permission i have already mounted the drive but when i do it says for read only why  is that
[07:14] <jb1> do*
[07:14] <Mortalman> Frogzoo: Even though it has nothing to do with acpi ?
[07:14] <Frogzoo> Mortalman: yep, try it & see
[07:14] <AshyIsMe> hello
[07:14] <AshyIsMe> i'm trying to enable the universe and multiverse repos' in dapper
[07:15] <Mortalman> Frogzoo: Okie doke. lol    brb
[07:15] <AshyIsMe> but there's no settings button in synaptic pm
[07:15] <AshyIsMe> what's going on?
[07:16] <aaron_> Listen 80
[07:16] <aaron_> i try to change that
[07:16] <YukiCuss> f/ l
[07:16] <aaron_> but its protected or something and i cant edit it
[07:16] <YukiCuss> Oops.
[07:17] <Dewio> what should I use for a terminal program in ubuntu? Iwant to talk to the serial modem directly and manually
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> Dewio  let me find the name of the one that i used
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> just a sec
[07:17] <jb1> Dewio: sudo apt-get install minicom
[07:17] <Frogzoo> Dewio: or kermit
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> Dewi  i used gtkterm
[07:18] <Dewi> thanks guys
[07:19] <aaron_> hey flieslikeabrick
[07:19] <aaron_> how do i edit this file i forgot
[07:19] <Frogzoo> aaron_: gksudo gedi /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[07:19] <AshyIsMe> what's the file i can manually edit to enable repos'?
[07:19] <YukiCuss> AshyIsMe, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <Dewi> AshyIsMe: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <jb1> aaron_: that shud be gedit not gedi in what Frogzoo wrote above
[07:20] <Dewi> YukiCuss: did I win?
[07:20] <Dewi> YukiCuss: you were very close
[07:20] <YukiCuss> Dewi, according to my screen, I'm within 1 second behind yours.
[07:20] <aaron_> sudo: gedi: command not found
[07:20] <GTroy> if I install the source package for wine, will it take over for the old wine package?
[07:20] <jb1> aaron_: it is gedit with a "t"
[07:20] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry aaron_ I need to sleep, I have class in the morning
[07:20] <AshyIsMe> Dewi: YukiCuss won on my screen
[07:20] <aaron_> ok gnight thanks for the help
[07:21] <Dewi> AshyIsMe: aw. your server sucks then. :P
[07:21] <FliesLikeABrick> np aaron_  thats what I'm here for
[07:21] <ejofee> "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[07:21] <ejofee> what do i do now?
[07:21] <protocol1> can someone give me an example of how to use fbsetbg to set some wallpaper up as my background?
[07:21] <DarthShrine> Does anybody know how to make a Lexmark Z818 printer work in Linux?
[07:21] <GTroy> simple question I hope someone can answer about wine
[07:22] <GTroy> will a source package replace the old one?
[07:22] <MaMaGoody> hi, how can I turn on web interface for cups without using gnome?
[07:22] <Dewi> ejofee: try again? sounds like data got corrupted
[07:22] <Mortalman> FrogZoo: Still fails on "load installer components from CD".  Any other ideas?
[07:22] <FliesLikeABrick> GTroy  is there a particular reason you want to use the source package instead of the compiled one?
[07:22] <ejofee> Dewi: i tried again more than twenty times.
[07:22] <bosco> why is it telling me that i cant burn an audio cd in a graphical way of doing it cuz i dont have permission i have already mounted the drive but when i do it says for read only why  is that
[07:22] <GTroy> my repos are screwed and don't feel like messin with em
[07:22] <ejofee> Dewi: (in the last twenty hours)
[07:23] <Dewi> ejofee: try downloading that file yourself with wget and see if you can gunzip it? maybe it's lying to you
[07:23] <GTroy> ok, so I'm lazy
[07:23] <ejofee> Dewi: where should i put that file?
[07:23] <aaron_> (gedit:12778): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:23] <aaron_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:23] <FliesLikeABrick> GTroy  it would take far less time to fix your repos than it would take to sit and wait for wine to compile from a source package
[07:23] <Dewi> ejofee: anywhere, I just mean you should test to see if you can unzip it manually
[07:23] <ejofee> Dewi: or where is the corrupted file which i might need to delete?
[07:24] <GTroy> Flies: you're right, but too late
[07:24] <Dewi> ejofee: stupid question but... you do have gzip installed right? :P
[07:24] <Dewi> ejofee: what command have you been running?
[07:24] <gimmulf_> Hi, how do i unrar a file with this name:  Reggaekv?ll_p?_Perrong_23_(18_mars).rar  ... im getting: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:24] <ejofee> Dewi: i think ubuntu won't even allow me to uninstall gzip without uninstalling most of the system.
[07:24] <Dewi> ejofee: that doesn't surprise me :)
[07:24] <ejofee> Dewi: "sudo apt-get update"
[07:24] <Dewi> ejofee: what were you typing to get that error?
[07:25] <FliesLikeABrick> gimmulf_  put a \ before the ( and )
[07:25] <GTroy> FliesLikeABrick: thanks for answering my question in a strange way
[07:25] <GTroy> ;)
[07:25] <gimmulf_> thanks FliesLikeABrick
[07:25] <jb1> aaron_: you tried  "gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf"?
[07:25] <FliesLikeABrick> gimmulf_  if you type the first couple letters of a filename and then hit tab, it will complete the filename for you and also include the \ for you
[07:25] <Mortalman> Anyone know why both the ubuntu DVD and the kubuntu DVD fail with the message "failed to load installer components from CD" when trying to boot live or install ??
[07:25] <Dewi> ejofee: hmm. the mime type of that file is text/plain. are you pulling via a proxy?
[07:26] <ejofee> Dewi: ... no
[07:27] <aaron_> ok i set the port
[07:27] <aaron_> it let me edit it finally
[07:27] <Dewi> ejofee: hmm. well, sometimes there are transparent ones or other issues. Try replacing the 'http://' in your sources.list with 'ftp://'
[07:27] <Dewi> ejofee: I have found a lower rate of corruption problems with FTP in the past
[07:27] <Dewi> ejofee: although it is much slower :/
[07:27] <aaron_> jbl what command do i run now to update it
[07:27] <aaron_> i forgot sorry :(
[07:27] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:28] <Dewi> ejofee: from where I am, that file downloads fine via HTTP and is a correct gzip file
[07:28] <ejofee> Dewi: how can a gzip file be text/plain?!
[07:28] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$ /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:28] <aaron_>  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)... httpd (pid 11690?) not running
[07:28] <Dewi> ejofee: it isn't. But the server is reporting it as such
[07:28] <FliesLikeABrick> ejofee  thats exactly the problem, it got corrupted and should not be text/plain
[07:28] <Dewi> ejofee: that mirror is not behaving as it should
[07:28] <Dewi> ejofee: not that this would normally be a problem
[07:29] <Dewi> ejofee: ... I don't think it would normally be a problem anyway
[07:29] <ejofee> Dewi: could somebody please provide me a mirror to it?
[07:29] <Dewi> ejofee: why not try FTP?
[07:29] <FliesLikeABrick> ejofee: hmm. well, sometimes there are transparent ones or other issues. Try replacing the 'http://' in your sources.list with 'ftp://'
[07:29] <ejofee> Dewi: i will try that, too (but... since you say it's slower...)
[07:29] <Dewi> ejofee: FTP doesn't have MIME issues, or cache issues
[07:29] <jb1> aaron_: what did you cahnge the port number to?
[07:29] <aaron_> 90
[07:29] <Dewi> ejofee: so it tends to be reliable
[07:29] <FliesLikeABrick> ejofee  if the speed bothers you, then use it just this once and change it back
[07:30] <Dewi> ejofee: it's not slower to download... just to establish each connection
[07:30] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  you should not use a port under 1024 besides 80
[07:30] <Dewi> ejofee: but I used FTP for years because the local cable ISPs here munched HTTP too often
[07:30] <jb1> aaron_: hmmm. still can't get to your page
[07:30] <aaron_> what port do you reccomend
[07:30] <aaron_> 1200 good?
[07:30] <jb1> aaron_: try changing it to 8080
[07:30] <aaron_> k
[07:30] <FliesLikeABrick> jb1  there is a decent chance 8080 is blocked along with 80
[07:30] <ejofee> Dewi: why don't we (generalize the) use of https?
[07:31] <FliesLikeABrick> most ISPs that block 80 also block 21, 25, and 8080
[07:31] <Carbine> Hello.
[07:31] <FliesLikeABrick> ejofee  because like sftp, https has a much higher overhead
[07:31] <jb1> aaron_: remember to restart the server after every change
[07:31] <FliesLikeABrick> !ask
[07:31] <ejofee> FliesLikeABrick: oh, right
[07:31] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell Carbine  about ask
[07:32] <Dewi> ejofee: it's only the overheads that are slower with FTP. once it gets going it's often faster.
[07:32] <Dewi> ejofee: fear not the FTP
[07:32] <FliesLikeABrick> jb1  it sounds like his server didn't restart properly after he changed it to 90 anyway
[07:32] <Carbine> I need to edit Xorg.conf to get graphics working in Ubuntu. I'm kinda new to Linux, and I am wondering how to get root privelages.
[07:32] <FliesLikeABrick> jb1  it couldn't find a process to kill
[07:32] <jb1> flieslikeabrick: ah.
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> Carbine  most root tasks can be accomplished with "sudo" before any command you need to execute
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> and I should have slept a while ago
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> gnite, again
[07:33] <Carbine> Oh, alrighty.
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> jb1  take good care of aaron_  ;)
[07:33] <jb1> ginte
[07:33] <jb1> i'll try
[07:33] <Carbine> So if I was to sudo vi xorg.conf I would be able to write to that file?
[07:33] <jb1> s/ginte/gnite
[07:33] <intelikey> well that really doesn't help my "newbee burn outness" any.   i just helped Dark_pahnt0m for over an hour in pm  to set up one partition.   why do i always get the one that can't read?    is it cause i can't type or what ?
[07:33] <FliesLikeABrick> intelikey  no need to bash
[07:33] <aaron_> same error :(
[07:33] <lgc> nalioth, it purrs now...
[07:33] <Frogzoo> Mortalman: if you're feeling adventurous, you could try enabling expert mode, then 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx' - apparently this sometimes is needed for some cds
[07:34] <jb1> aaron_: sorry for being dense. what is the exact error?
[07:34] <intelikey> FliesLikeABrick i'm not. just wondering...
[07:34] <McPants> try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:34] <Carbine> Alrighty. Off to boot to Ubuntu now. Thanks!
[07:34] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$ /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:34] <aaron_>  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)... httpd (pid 11690?) not running
[07:35] <jb1> aaron_: OK. Then try:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:35] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:35] <aaron_>  * Starting web server (Apache2)... httpd (pid 11690) already running
[07:35] <dli__> which one is smaller or faster, vim-gtk or vim-tcl?
[07:35] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  can you access it locally with http://localhost:90
[07:36] <Nickgarvey> is there a way to scan my computer for files that were installed to meet dependecies, but are no longer needed?
[07:36] <FliesLikeABrick> or whatever port you're running it on aaron_
[07:36] <Frogzoo> Mortalman: another thing, is this a sata drive, and you're install a64?
[07:36] <intelikey> dli__ vim  :)
[07:36] <jb1> lol intelikey
[07:36] <dli__> intelikey, I like gvim
[07:37] <aaron_> hmm no
[07:37] <aaron_> i was able to before
[07:37] <intelikey> Nickgarvey deb-orphan  i think
[07:37] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  do ps aux | grep apache
[07:37] <froggontherocks> anybody know why i can't log into my nsf shares?
[07:37] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  then do kill <pid> of any processes running as apache or httpd
[07:37] <neo911> anyone knowledgeable on ldap_sasl? it's giving me shit...
[07:37] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  then do /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:38] <dli__> intelikey, Nickgarvey apt-get install deborphan
[07:38] <intelikey> Nickgarvey deb-orphan hunts up the little bastards and evicts them.  iirc
[07:38] <McPants> anyone know much about whine, is there some unofficial way to get joystick support?
[07:38] <McPants> I mean wine
[07:38] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$ kill <11690>
[07:38] <aaron_> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `11690'
[07:38] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$ kill 11690
[07:38] <aaron_> bash: kill: (11690) - Operation not permitted
[07:38] <aaron_> aaron@ubuntu:~$
[07:38] <Nickgarvey> thanks a lot
[07:38] <Nickgarvey> !tell aaron_ about paste
[07:38] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  don't put the < > in
[07:38] <Frogzoo> aaron_: please don't paste
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  you have to do it with sudo
[07:39] <dli__> Nickgarvey, deborphan helps a lot for major upgrades, but not much for daily upgrading
[07:39] <intelikey> McPants js works in gnome ?
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> because root owns the process aaron_
[07:39] <jb1> aaron_: it has to be "sudo kill 11690"
[07:39] <McPants> that's all wine needs, and midi support
[07:39] <Nickgarvey> dli__, better than nothing
[07:39] <GTroy> hey FliesLikeABrick, how long does a source wine installation take?
[07:39] <Nickgarvey> is there anything that works for daily upgrading?
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> GTroy  far too long ;)
[07:39] <FliesLikeABrick> Nickgarvey  sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:39] <McPants> yes joystick works in gnome
[07:39] <Fujitsu> At least two hours, generally, GTroy.
[07:39] <lgc> nalioth, I can't find an option to not "close" the CD. Maybe it's the multisession thing?
[07:39] <nalioth> aaron_: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin.
[07:40] <dli__> Nickgarvey, deborphan is fast enough for you to run after each apt-get remove, apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:40] <GTroy> crikey, I'm going to sleep then
[07:40] <moulty> hi again, got all the info this time....
[07:40] <nalioth> lgc: k3b > tools > burn cd image
[07:40] <FliesLikeABrick> lgc yes it is multicession
[07:40] <McPants> although I think it's a gtk joystick setup?
[07:40] <GTroy> thanks Fujitsu
[07:40] <dli__> Nickgarvey, like, deborphan | xargs dpkg --purge
[07:40] <intelikey> McPants i haven't checked but there may be some thing in wineconfig   errr tab complete that.
[07:40] <McPants> not gnome
[07:40] <lgc> nalioth, you were right: at "Determine supported write speeds" I only get 4x.
[07:40] <bosco> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:40] <dli__> intelikey, I chose vim-python finally
[07:41] <Nickgarvey> I ment for cleaning out extra packages from daily upgrading
[07:41] <FliesLikeABrick> wow dli__  xargs looks like a nifty command
[07:41] <bosco> but i thought sudo took care of that
[07:41] <nalioth> lgc: in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[07:41] <intelikey> dli__ kewly
[07:41] <McPants> it says it's not supported, but then some people say they have it working. magic wine version?
[07:41] <aaron_> ok heres what it said  * Starting web server (Apache2)...                                      [ ok ]
[07:41] <intelikey> ooops
[07:41] <intelikey> dli__ kewlyish
[07:41] <FliesLikeABrick> k aaron_  now do http://localhost:<port number>
[07:41] <dli__> FliesLikeABrick, right, if deborphan finds nothing, dpkg complains, but who cares
[07:41] <muzik> does anyone have that freezeing problem on a fresh install of 5.10? bloody driving me crazy
[07:42] <FliesLikeABrick> dli__  thats why > /dev/null was invented ;)
[07:42] <FliesLikeABrick> muzik  please define "that freezing problem"
[07:42] <muzik> after a fresh install, i use the user added in the setup, and the system just hangs
[07:42] <dli__> FliesLikeABrick, bad idea, without seeing the complaint, how can one know deborphan finds nothing
[07:42] <bosco> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:42] <bosco>            when i try to update this pops up
[07:42] <aaron_> no still aint working
[07:42] <jb1> (thanks for staying with this, Flies LikeABrick)
[07:42] <aaron_> connection refused
[07:42] <muzik> i cant ctrl-alt-backspace, or ctrl-alt-delete
[07:42] <intelikey> actually   2> /dev/null
[07:43] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah jb1  i realized i have another couple minutes before I should really be asleep, my morning class was cancelled
[07:43] <blueumbrella> After login, I just get a blank brown screen. I can move the curser  but nothing comes up. I have previously been able to get into ubuntu...any ideas?
[07:43] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  are you sure you saved the configuration file?
[07:43] <dli__> FliesLikeABrick, the idea to run deborphan (as its current form) is to run it again and again, untill it finds nothing
[07:43] <aaron_> yea
[07:43] <aaron_> saved with no problems :/
[07:43] <intelikey> muzik ctrl-alt-f1 and try ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:43] <muzik> blueumbrella, i have exactly the same problem
[07:43] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm guessing because that way you work down the orphaned subtree of dependencies dli__
[07:43] <muzik> yeah i tried
[07:43] <twitch101> does anyone know of a good .vob video joiner?
[07:43] <muzik> it wont
[07:44] <muzik> the mouse moves and thats it
[07:44] <FliesLikeABrick> muzik  try hitting ctrl+alt+f2
[07:44] <dli__> what's menumaker ( http://menumaker.sf.net ) in ubuntu? or any alternatives?
[07:44] <FliesLikeABrick> see if that brings up a login screen
[07:44] <Nickgarvey> how do I delete the files deb orphan lists?
[07:44] <intelikey> muzik hmmm yep.  big time, hung!
[07:44] <muzik> hhrrrm,dont know what difference that is, but ill try it
[07:44] <AshyIsMe> hmm
[07:44] <McPants> the force feedback doesnt work on the joy in linux though, but who really cares about that
[07:44] <FliesLikeABrick> if it does, login and then do sudo killall gnome-panel
[07:44] <AshyIsMe> xgl crashes and burns without starting
[07:44] <twitch101> does anyone know of a good .vob video joiner?
[07:44] <aaron_> OH YAY
[07:44] <aaron_> im sorry
[07:45] <jb1> dli_: it took 4 runs of deborphan to nuke all the junk from my Dapper box :)
[07:45] <aaron_> i was putting in the wrong local ip :/
[07:45] <FliesLikeABrick> gj aaron_
[07:45] <FliesLikeABrick> thats why i said to use localhost
[07:45] <aaron_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/
[07:45] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  now forward the port in your router like you did with 80 originally
[07:45] <aaron_> does this work
[07:45] <aaron_> i allready did
[07:45] <FliesLikeABrick> yes aaron_  it worsk
[07:45] <FliesLikeABrick> works*
[07:45] <aaron_> YAY
[07:45] <aaron_> :-)
[07:45] <twitch101> does anyone know of a good .vob video joiner?
[07:45] <muzik> nope, doesnt work FliesLikeABrick
[07:45] <aaron_> thanks a ton guys
[07:45] <Nickgarvey> hurrray
[07:45] <intelikey> Nickgarvey it asks you if it can delete them for you,  doesn't it?    last time i used it.  on the second run it ask permission to remove several things not used.
[07:45] <FliesLikeABrick> k muzik  just an idea :-/
[07:45] <dli__> jb1, sure, the deborphan developpers may want to improve their algorithm, but maybe, running it again and again is a better idea already
[07:45] <aaron_> you had the patience to help a noob like me i <3 you guys
[07:45] <muzik> :P
[07:45] <FliesLikeABrick> alright aaron_  now I can go to sleep feeling accomplished
[07:46] <FliesLikeABrick> aaron_  have fun ;)
[07:46] <aaron_> thanks so much
[07:46] <aaron_> ill host pr0n
[07:46] <jb1> aaron_: got it, bud. Congrats!
[07:46] <aaron_> lol jk
[07:46] <aaron_> :)
[07:46] <twitch101> does anyone know of a good .vob video joiner?
[07:46] <bosco> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:46] <bosco>  i am updating and it gave me this message
[07:46] <moulty> Am trying to install NFORCE-Linux-xxxxx.run - Have to use root account as cant switch term to root mode from main account as described in the user guide. When it runs; comes up with this error: ERROR Unable to find the System utility 'ld'; please made sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. If you do have biutils installed then please check that ld is in your path.
[07:46] <muzik> in the command line, (ctrl-alt-f1) thingy, how oculd i get the latest xorg?
[07:46] <muzik> apt-get install xorg?
[07:46] <FliesLikeABrick> muzik apt-get dist-upgrade will get the latest stable versions of all installed packages on your system
[07:46] <DarthShrine> is it possible to install from the LiveCD?
[07:47] <muzik> how about the dapper ones?
[07:47] <intelikey> bosco close synaptic, aptitude   or wate until apt is finished updating
[07:47] <jb1> aaron_: if u host pr0n, u gotta send me the addy . LOLOL
[07:47] <ejofee> DarthShrine: they say it is, but i still can't figure it out how
[07:47] <bosco> intelikey,  synaptic is not even open
[07:47] <FliesLikeABrick> muzik  you could probably change your apt sources to the dapper sources and upgrade that way, but you'd probably end up just upgrading your system to dapper unstable
[07:47] <dli__> jb1, run freenet, unlimited secure porn
[07:47] <aaron_> lol
[07:47] <muzik> im planning to anyway
[07:47] <muzik> :P
[07:47] <jb1> hehehe
[07:48] <DarthShrine> ejofee, Thanks,
[07:48] <ejofee> bosco: then open it, and then close it ;)
[07:48] <intelikey> bosco  that error thinks  you are trying to run two paxkage managers at one time.
[07:48] <moulty> Frogzoo: Am trying to install NFORCE-Linux-xxxxx.run - Have to use root account as cant switch term to root mode from main account as described in the user guide. When it runs; comes up with this error: ERROR Unable to find the System utility 'ld'; please made sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. If you do have biutils installed then please check that ld is in your path. any ideas?
[07:48] <bosco> intelikey,  thank yo ui will try it and let you knw
[07:48] <jb1> aaron_: not really sure myself if your ISP is really blocking port 80 or if you just didn;t get the config right the first time
[07:48] <FliesLikeABrick> moulty  do sudo apt-get install binutils
[07:49] <FliesLikeABrick> jb1  google said that cox blocks 80
[07:49] <FliesLikeABrick> thats why I asked what his ISP was a while back
[07:49] <jb1> ah. OK
[07:49] <muzik> so is there an easy way to get use the dapper sources via command line?
[07:49] <FliesLikeABrick> muzik  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:49] <moulty> FliesLikeABrick: thankyou!!
[07:50] <muzik> yepe
[07:50] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell muzik about dapper-sources
[07:50] <aaron_> oh so your calling me a dumbass
[07:50] <aaron_> :-P
[07:50] <na7e> anyone here who is decent with gimp wanna make a usplash image for me, possibly for an upcoming offshoot of ubuntu?
[07:50] <jb1> aaron_: hardly. it took me 2 weeks to get my apache running right the first time :)
[07:50] <FliesLikeABrick> na7e  #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:50] <aaron_> lol
[07:50] <aaron_> rootbeer is godly
[07:50] <na7e> FliesLikeABrick, :P
[07:51] <weedar> Why can't I delete the files in .local/share/Trash/files/ ?
[07:51] <intelikey> cause you are not root
[07:51] <FliesLikeABrick> weedar  are you doing it with sudo?
[07:51] <bosco> intelikey,  still did not work allthough this is command i am using sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:51] <bosco>  is that why
[07:51] <FliesLikeABrick> muzik  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139354
[07:52] <FliesLikeABrick> bosco  you need sudo before apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:52] <FliesLikeABrick> so itd be sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:52] <weedar> no I'm doing it from X windows... but I assumed I'd have sufficient permission FliesLikeABrick - It's in my /home directory
[07:52] <intelikey> bosco ps -A x | grep dpkg
[07:52] <dli__> ubuntu updates its deb sources so frequently :( bad for dialup users
[07:52] <muzik> thanks FliesLikeABrick
[07:53] <FliesLikeABrick> bosco  also ps -A x | grep apt
[07:53] <intelikey> bosco anything other than the one with grep in it ?
[07:53] <moulty> PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
[07:53] <FliesLikeABrick> dli__  but that is a good thing ;)
[07:53] <moulty> thanks!
[07:53] <FliesLikeABrick> good to know moulty
[07:54] <dli__> FliesLikeABrick, then I have to manually restart my apt-get :( I'm downloading 125MB/131MB via dialup :(
[07:54] <intelikey> dli__ that's prezactly why i don't update.
[07:54] <FliesLikeABrick> <3 my 20mbit cable :P
[07:54] <joshiiii> Does anyone know of any good posts that I could post on www.ubuntuos.com ?
[07:54] <dli__> intelikey, new install :( just want to put my newly bought modem to some use
[07:55] <intelikey> :)
[07:55] <intelikey> 125m will do it
[07:55] <bosco> FliesLikeABrick, thank you it worked i did not pay atention to the sudo my bad
[07:55] <dli__> intelikey, it's not easy to find one working modem cheaper than the license price of linuxant
[07:56] <jb1> joshii: going to http://www.ubuntu.com/community would be a good start
[07:56] <dli__> intelikey, I remember downloading kernel source was already a pain:) 38MB from kernel.org
[07:57] <intelikey> it's like 80m now
[07:57] <dli__> intelikey, I bought this 56K :) but the isp doesn't follow me
[07:57] <JonathanKent> !find java
[07:57] <intelikey> !java
[07:57] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:57] <na7e> anyone know where to find the png of ubuntu's usplash?
[07:57] <intelikey> !javadebs
[07:58] <JonathanKent> !javadebs
[07:58] <na7e> !usplash
[07:58] <ubotu> usplash is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[07:58] <JonathanKent> am
[07:58] <JonathanKent> !javadebs
[07:58] <DarthShrine> ejofee, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDInstallHowTo ?
[07:58] <intelikey> !botsnak
[07:58] <ubotu> intelikey: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:59] <intelikey> !botsnack
[07:59] <ubotu> :)
[07:59] <DarthShrine> Hehe
[07:59] <bosco> so when dapper comes out do i have to reinstall comepletely or can i just run an update
[07:59] <dli__> na7e, why splash? it's slower, it requires initrd (or you make a big image), has not effect on the system after booting
[07:59] <jb1> lol
[07:59] <JonathanKent> !javadebs
[07:59] <intelikey> update/upgrade
[08:00] <FliesLikeABrick> bosco you can just upgrade
[08:00] <intelikey> @bosco
[08:00] <FliesLikeABrick> no reinstall needed
[08:00] <na7e> dli__, seriously, i'm not in the mood
[08:00] <bosco> FliesLikeABrick, why is that
[08:00] <dj-fu> Is it possible to burn bin/cue cd images?
[08:00] <jb1> bosco: change all the breezy instances to dapper in your etc/apt/sources.list, then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[08:00] <FliesLikeABrick> bosco because dapper is really just a lot of new versions of packages
[08:00] <dli__> bosco, just make your source to dapper, and run "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:00] <bosco> FliesLikeABrick,  thankx
[08:00] <mrkoje> Has anyone tried that Korreaa glx release?
[08:01] <intelikey> as root of course  ^
[08:01] <bosco> FliesLikeABrick,  so there is no differnce if i do a complete reinstall compared to a update
[08:01] <dli__> bosco, be prepared to see apt breaks :) for such kind of dist-upgrade
[08:01] <FliesLikeABrick> correct bosco, the only difference is that you'll still have all your stuff from an upgrade
[08:01] <jb1> bosco: if you are lucky it will be realtively painless
[08:02] <bosco> jb1,  hopefully
[08:02] <FliesLikeABrick> my upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 was painless, and if there are any problems at all you're not the only one going through them
[08:02] <FliesLikeABrick> everything would be fixed very easily
[08:02] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm willing to bet that the developers/maintainers test the upgrade scenarios very throughly to make sure it works well
[08:02] <jb1> bosco: I did the dapper upgrade a while ago and so far the only thing that is broken is my usb scanner (libusb probs)
[08:02] <dli__> bosco, usually, reinstallation is not needed, but it might be faster, if dist-upgrade breaks down
[08:03] <bosco> jb1,  you already got dapper
[08:03] <FliesLikeABrick> reinstallation would also only be faster because you'd be able to torrent the installcd faster than you'd be able to get the upgrades from the repos since they get so much traffic
[08:03] <bosco> jb1 i thought it wasnt comming out till april
[08:03] <dli__> jb1, that means it's broken in dapper, but not a dist-upgrade problem
[08:03] <FliesLikeABrick> I plan to seed the dapper install cds on 5 of my servers as soon as it comes out to help with the distrobution
[08:03] <protocol1> I wont start my dapper upgrade till launch date
[08:03] <jb1> bosco: I nobody has Dapper...i meant "that which will be Dapper..."
[08:03] <intelikey> the only difference is that you'll still have all your stuff from an upgrade  <---- sometimes that is not quite true.   some experance major malfunctions with upgrades that they do not with clean install,  while it is also true that a few experiance major problems with clean install.....  so  one might as well say....  "maybe"
[08:03] <FliesLikeABrick> 5 servers on 100mbit connections
[08:03] <bosco> jb1 oh ok
[08:04] <dli__> FliesLikeABrick, I suppose apt-proxy also works in ubuntu
[08:04] <dj-fu> clean install > dist-upgrade
[08:05] <aaron_> im gonna go guys thanks for all the help , im me if you want my sn is vtc220 or honciv280(on this pc)
[08:05] <aaron_> thanks guys!
[08:05] <aaron_> til next time :)
[08:05] <aaron_> bye
[08:05] <intelikey> well  more like     clean install != dist upgrade
[08:05] <dli__> dj-fu, I like the gentoo idea, after installation, it should be versionless
[08:05] <dj-fu> Gentoo is reasonable, I don't like a 12hr system install though
[08:05] <jb1> nite aaron!
[08:05] <dj-fu> (timed it yesterday)
[08:06] <dli__> dj-fu, 12 hrs means limited number of packages, or super fast machine
[08:06] <intelikey> it's one of those  sudo   thangs  with plenty of pe     (pseudo)
[08:06] <DJ_Tobias> how do i get this to work in any text editor.. [alt]  + number, ?
[08:07] <dli__> DJ_Tobias, I think using scim to input raw codes might be a better idea
[08:07] <DJ_Tobias> dli__, thanks
[08:07] <dj-fu> dli__, yeah, that was a base X install, lol
[08:07] <dj-fu> dli__, I don't have that kind of time.
[08:08] <dli__> dj-fu, you can leave it emerging while you are sleeping
[08:08] <dj-fu> and what am I supposed to do while not sleeping, stare at gcc output? :D
[08:08] <McPants> is there an east asian writing aid similar to windows? I have installed it in the language sections, but I don't see anything. Or is the writing aid the same thing I'm thinking of?
[08:08] <intelikey> lol
[08:08] <dj-fu> McPants, SCIM
[08:09] <intelikey> dj-fu ever hear of real life ?
[08:09] <dli__> dj-fu, just consider, when everyday desktops come with 100+ cores, you may don't care about compiling your own binaries
[08:09] <dj-fu> dli__, that'll be the day
[08:09] <dj-fu> intelikey, sure, but when I come home and wanna play with my machine, I don't wanna stare at gcc output for a million years
[08:10] <dli__> McPants, scim is universal :) works gracefully in gnome, but not so well in xfce
[08:11] <dli__> intelikey, using wget --progress=dot:binary ?
[08:11] <Carbine> Anyone happen to know if there is a way to get full Radeon Xpress 200m support with the 64-bit Ubuntu yet?
[08:11] <lgc> FliesLikeABrick, I installed k3b, but I end up with "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device". "You may use K3bsetup2 to solve this problem". The thing is that I can't find k3bsetup2 on my disk or on the repositories. What should I do next?
[08:11] <dli__> lgc, first, add the user to the cdrom group
[08:12] <intelikey> errrr just a timed key press, actually :)
[08:12] <lgc> dli_ how?
[08:12] <moulty> Now the driver install wants to recompile the Kernal, it cant find source files, is there a quick term command?
[08:13] <dli__> lgc, gpasswd -a lgc cdrom
[08:13] <moulty> to install source files*
[08:13] <intelikey> lgc or edit the /etc/group file :)
[08:13] <lgc> dli_ thanks. Let me try...
[08:13] <McPants> thanks to both
[08:13] <dli__> moulty, do you have kernel source or headers?
[08:13] <wenko> ok, so i have tried installing ubuntu on a hdd, it didnt work, tried installing gentoo, didnt work, tried installing debaian, didnt work, even bsd didnt work, but windows server 2003 is working fine....WTF
[08:14] <screwbuntu> #/me
[08:14] <dli__> lgc, remember you have to login again before the new group takes effects
[08:14] <moulty> dli_ not sure, dont think so (newbi)
[08:14] <jb1> wenko: are you on Planer Earth?
[08:14] <lgc> intelikey, thanks. The firstg option seemed to work. Let me try and burn the CD...
[08:14] <jb1> Planet*
[08:14] <dli__> wenko, what do you want to say?
[08:14] <lgc> dli_ thanks for telling me! I'll do that!
[08:15] <intelikey> wenko sounds like you might be trying to use M$ file system to install linux on ?   that will never work
[08:15] <dli__> moulty, if you don't know, probably you need to install kernel-headers for your kernel version (exact match), and try the driver again
[08:16] <wenko> no its formatting it for me
[08:16] <glick> hi
[08:16] <dli__> intelikey, I heard someone installed on fat32, but just a stupid idea already
[08:16] <intelikey> wenko and what hardware are we talking about ?
[08:17] <Frogzoo> when running gksudo I get "Warning: Tried to connect to session manager, Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed" - any ideas?
[08:17] <wenko> the live CD worked np, but not the install
[08:17] <dli__> glick, never say hi here :( we are freaks not civilized
[08:17] <DominusSuus> is something wrong with aegis-virus-scanner?
[08:17] <wenko> 128mbram
[08:17] <intelikey> dli__ there are a thousand apps that wont run unless they can set permissions or at least verify them.
[08:17] <intelikey> sudo is one
[08:18] <jb1> wenko: that would implicate your hard drive in some way
[08:18] <intelikey> xorg is another
[08:18] <moulty> dli_ : thanks, where do i find em?
[08:18] <wenko> ?
[08:18] <intelikey> dli__ also  can you makd device nodes on vfat ?
[08:18] <ufo> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=291
[08:18] <dli__> intelikey, does the installation cd allow using reiserfs, jfs, or xfs? I didn't install this box myself
[08:19] <ufo> oops
[08:19] <jb1> wenko: i wud see if i cud get another drive and try it
[08:19] <intelikey> yes dli__ it does.
[08:19] <dli__> intelikey, oh, I don't like ext3 :) but got to use it now
[08:20] <intelikey> reiser is good
[08:20] <lgc> dli__, it didn't work!
[08:20] <jb1> wenko: is it PATA or a SATA drive?
[08:20] <dli__> lgc, never say "it doesn't work", just report the exact error message
[08:20] <dli__> intelikey, you got to try reiser4
[08:21] <moulty> dli_ cant i get the headers from the install dvd?
[08:21] <Carbine> Can anyone help me with getting my graphics card to work properly in Ubuntu?
[08:21] <lgc> dli__, it says cdrecord has no permission to open the device...
[08:21] <dli__> moulty, try apt-cache search kernel-headers
[08:22] <nalioth> !headers
[08:22] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:22] <moulty> thanks
[08:22] <dli__> lgc, try as root :)
[08:22] <intelikey> is that a you have got to try it, you'll love it.  or a you have got to try it, it is the worst ?
[08:22] <nalioth> dli__: there is no root here,
[08:22] <lgc> dli__, of course!
[08:22] <nalioth> lgc: use alt-f2 > kdesu k3b
[08:22] <intelikey> no root ?
[08:23] <dli__> lgc, I think you have to enable root passwd first, export XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority ; su
[08:23] <nalioth> dli__: please don't do that
[08:23] <nalioth> !root
[08:23] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:23] <lgc> nalioth, I don't have kdesu!
[08:23] <dli__> nalioth, why? I hate sudo with a passion
[08:23] <pvd2006> Is there a good channel on this server for discussion of shell scripting?
[08:23] <kuzmaster> can sombody please tell me how to prevent ubuntu 5.10 from going straight into text mode, befor the login
[08:23] <nalioth> dli__: enabling the root account breaks some functionality, please don't advise it
[08:24] <glick> ubuntu kindly puts your root password in  a plaintext file for all to read incase u forget it
[08:24] <YukiCuss> dli__, there's nothing wrong with sudo. Learn to live with it, and you'll soon like it!
[08:24] <kuzmaster> i thik it has somthing to do with runlevel and sudo int
[08:24] <YukiCuss> glick, don't spread FUD. That's been fixed since.
[08:24] <lgc> dli__, should I do that from the root console?
[08:24] <intelikey> what does it break nalioth ?
[08:24] <dli__> kuzmaster, install gdm /kdm (or use xdm), rc-update add gdm default
[08:24] <nalioth> intelikey: /msg ubotu root
[08:24] <intelikey> but what does it break ?
[08:25] <dli__> lgc, I suppose you can not get DISPLAY in sudo -
[08:25] <nalioth> intelikey: read the page
[08:25] <nalioth> lgc: alt-f2 > gksudo k3b
[08:25] <intelikey> !root
[08:25] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:25] <dli__> lgc, or whatever nalioth says
[08:26] <moulty> dli_ : apt-cache search kernel-headers   : pressed enter, did nothing but goto next line in term without message or error?
[08:26] <pvd2006> you can make a shortcut for sudo
[08:26] <ReWT_AxS> okay so iwas using the ati driver in my 64 bit and it kept crashing so i switched over to the vesa driver, which is running fine now, but i cant get a higher resolution...any help would be greatly appreciated....im on a widescreen
[08:26] <dli__> moulty, can you find kernel-source
[08:26] <nalioth> moulty: read the next thing ubotu says
[08:26] <nalioth> !headers
[08:26] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:26] <dli__> moulty, if they changed the package names from debian :(
[08:27] <intelikey> nalioth word break not on page,   what's it under/
[08:27] <moulty> thanks
[08:27] <dli__> moulty, aha, sorry for my fault, its linux-headers now
[08:27] <nalioth> intelikey: enable it
[08:27] <moulty> ;)
[08:28] <glick> winex sux
[08:28] <intelikey> it is  has been sense install big boy
[08:28] <lgc> nalioth, from the root console: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server". "Xlib: No protocol specified". "(gksudo:9797): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[08:28] <dli__> moulty, still, it's much better to run your own custom kernel :) just try it later, you won't need linux-headers anymore
[08:28] <jb1> dli_: i just checked apt-cache. apparently kernel-headers and linux-headers are 2 seperate packages
[08:28] <glick> i wish developers would jus release games for linux natively
[08:28] <intelikey> now what did it break ?
[08:29] <dli__> lgc, follow my way, it's clear and straight forward
[08:29] <dj-fu> glick, so do I. then I could play WoW, with linuxey goodness.
[08:29] <dli__> jb1, the bot says linux-headers :)
[08:29] <pvd2006> do you guys know much about cosmopod.com
[08:29] <lgc> dli__, I've done everything you said already. What next?
[08:29] <pvd2006> its like a online desktop running linux with KDE
[08:29] <glick> wish i could play civ 4
[08:29] <dli__> lgc, after su, just type, k3b
[08:30] <ReWT_AxS> okay so iwas using the ati driver in my 64 bit and it kept crashing so i switched over to the vesa driver, which is running fine now, but i cant get a higher resolution...any help would be greatly appreciated....im on a widescreen
[08:30] <intelikey> btw there is no sudo on this system nalioth   5.4  installed server   it asks you to set the root password.  i did  so what did it break ?
[08:30] <lgc> dli__, from the root console?
[08:30] <dli__> lgc, I suppose you are doing in X :)
[08:30] <k0tyara> hi all
[08:30] <lgc> dli__, I do have the graphics environment working.
[08:30] <k0tyara>    ?
[08:31] <dli__> lgc, no, open a termianl (in X), run "  XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority su"
[08:31] <YukiCuss> k0tyara, English?
[08:31] <k0tyara> Russian :)
[08:31] <YukiCuss> k0tyara, aah!
[08:31] <YukiCuss> !ru
[08:31] <dli__> k0tyara, looks beautiful
[08:31] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:31] <k0tyara> who know how install Ubuntu on low memory PC?
[08:32] <dli__> k0tyara, how "low"?
[08:32] <McPants> hmm scim can't' get it to work, all I see is an icon in the notification area, nothing happens when clicked
[08:32] <k0tyara> p233
[08:32] <lgc> dli__, it doesn't take my password!
[08:32] <dli__> McPants, Ctl-Spacebar
[08:32] <bosco> k0tyara,  go with ubuntu out of the box and then if you have enough memory e17 i think runs on less memoroy than gnome
[08:33] <dli__> lgc, I said, in sudo -, run "passwd" to enable root
[08:33] <jb1> k)tyara: how much RAM?
[08:33] <bosco> k0tyara,  all though i may be wrong
[08:33] <k0tyara> 96
[08:33] <k0tyara> 96 Mb RAM
[08:33] <moulty> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)...... I typed with and without brackets, it says invalid syntax
[08:33] <bosco> k0tyara, ouch
[08:33] <glick> k0tyara, what all u wanna run on it?
[08:33] <McPants> nothing
[08:33] <YukiCuss> moulty, try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:33] <jb1> k0tyara: might not be enuf RAM
[08:33] <lgc> dli__, "sudo -"? Won't take it!
[08:33] <bosco> k0tyara,  slackware is the way to go then i f you want low mem but i sill like ubuntu better
[08:34] <YukiCuss> lgc, don't enable root, please.
[08:34] <dli__> k0tyara, that's okay for the OS itself, just don't use gnome, try "icewm", or fluxbox
[08:34] <McPants> I installed the language, its there in the settings
[08:34] <k0tyara> i use mandrake on it ) but it was too slow .. )
[08:34] <moulty> ta
[08:34] <lgc> YukiCuss, why?
[08:34] <MatyasZA> Good morning
[08:34] <dark_light> how can i set the default charset of my locale? i don't wanna use utf-8 as default charset
[08:34] <dli__> k0tyara, I suppose ubuntu couldn't be faster than mandrake, at least not much faster
[08:34] <glick> k0tyara, yeah go with barebones slakware with xfce4 desktop
[08:34] <Hoxzer> Now you feel like number ONE
[08:34] <YukiCuss> lgc, it's not correct. Just use sudo.
[08:34] <DarthShrine> Evenin' MatyasZA
[08:34] <YukiCuss> lgc, it's better than su.
[08:34] <Hoxzer> shining bright to everyone
[08:34] <MatyasZA> guys is there anyone here who knows a lot about Postfix?
[08:34] <glick> or xubuntu
[08:34] <MatyasZA> i get this error
[08:34] <MatyasZA> Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname
[08:34] <Hoxzer> living out your fantasy
[08:34] <Tiffany16> hey does anyone know where I can get some settings for my touchpad to put in xorg.conf
[08:35] <dli__> lgc, just enable it, debian has root, ubuntu is based on debian
[08:35] <YukiCuss> dli__, don't instruct people to do incorrect things.
[08:35] <nalioth> dli__: if ubuntu was meant to have an active root account, don't you think it would come with one out of the box?
[08:35] <moulty> apt-get install-linux"could not find package
[08:35] <dli__> MatyasZA, running bind can provide a real DNS
[08:35] <moulty> opss
[08:35] <k0tyara> how install it from ubuntu cd? i've read that i can start to install server version and then put on icewm or another graphic? is it right?
[08:36] <robinl1> Humanity sucks
[08:36] <robinl1> Humanity sucks
[08:36] <nalioth> k0tyara: correct
[08:36] <YukiCuss> lgc, please just read that information.
[08:36] <MatyasZA> I see thank you
[08:36] <lgc> dli__, YukiCuss. It seems to me you guys are pulling on opposite ways with me in the middle! If you could just somehow agree on a midpoint?
[08:36] <Auckland_Pig> i need help with mondo, mindi ....
[08:36] <glick> k0tyara, do basic server install then instal xubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <k0tyara> are there any manuals how do i can do it? :)
[08:36] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu tell me about mondo
[08:37] <dli__> lgc, I use whatever works :) let experts do the religious war
[08:37] <MatyasZA> dli_: does that come with postfix?
[08:37] <moulty> apt-get install linux-headers-$'root -r'   ...... "could not find package linux-headers-root -r"
[08:37] <YukiCuss> lgc, Ubuntu comes with root disabled for a reason; it's an old, deprecated way of authentication. sudo is the `officially' correct way, and for good reason.
[08:37] <YukiCuss> moulty, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:37] <k0tyara> are there any manuals how i can do it? :)
[08:37] <Auckland_Pig> anyone knows a norton ghost equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:37] <dli__> moulty, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:38] <YukiCuss> dli__, stop saying that! Most people use bash here.
[08:38] <glick> whats norton ghost
[08:38] <Hoxzer> :)
[08:38] <Auckland_Pig> glick: its a backup software....
[08:38] <YukiCuss> dli__, wait a sec.
[08:38] <YukiCuss> ..hm
[08:38] <intelikey> dli__ you and i use root.  it is how ever not ubuntu official policy,  this is the official ubuntu help channel.   so 'we' should conform to official policy and if one asks how to enable root just tell them it is not recommended but this is how.   and leave it there,  and the "staff" should refrain form scare tatics and other deceptive ways to inforce policy.
[08:39] <pvd2006> the command to install a .deb package is dpkg-make .....?
[08:39] <Auckland_Pig> i tried mondo... but i get some fatal error and i'm asked to reinstall
[08:39] <dli__> moulty, okay, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:39] <pvd2006> man dpkg
[08:39] <pvd2006> whoops
[08:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pvd2006 about deb
[08:39] <rewt_> can anyone help me with resolution problems using the vesa driver?
[08:39] <dli__> pvd2006, dpkg -i foo.deb, but you many want to use synaptic
[08:40] <McPants> any ideas on scim? am I starting it wrong?
[08:40] <pvd2006> dli_ they didnt have a synaptic version
[08:40] <DarthShrine> What options should I have for /home in /etc/fstab?
[08:40] <pvd2006> only a .deb package file
[08:40] <protocol1> yey...got my fluxbox set the way I want it
[08:40] <moulty>  apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)         "bash: root: command not found"
[08:40] <nalioth> pvd2006: check your priv msgs
[08:41] <bosco> how do i update my search list and show me what it is doing like Verbose mode
[08:41] <pvd2006> yeah I read, thanks
[08:41] <moulty> apt-get install linux-headers-$(root -r)*
[08:41] <bosco> locate list srry
[08:41] <glick> hate fluxbox
[08:41] <dli__> McPants, some application support right click on the input area, and has an input method menu
[08:41] <pvd2006>  -i
[08:41] <YukiCuss> moulty, use uname, not root.
[08:42] <intelikey> moulty you are not needing  b-e are you ?
[08:42] <intelikey> !b-e
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:42] <McPants> I'm not seeing anything there either on any applications. what am I supposed to be seeing exactly? There is just a little icon in the notification area
[08:42] <moulty> uname....... rgr that.
[08:42] <dli__> moulty, just copy the output of "uname -r", or apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:43] <McPants> I enabled "always show" toolbar, I dont see anything
[08:43] <bosco> how do i update my search list and show me what it is doing like Verbose mode
[08:43] <rewt_> im guessing no one can help my resolution problem?
[08:44] <McPants> which problem?
[08:44] <dli__> moulty, try gaim, I know it provides you a menu to choose input methods
[08:44] <pvd2006> if synaptic tells me I have 1 broken package how can I find it?
[08:44] <killerbud> hey everybody im a newbie to linux and im having problems installing limewire can somebody help me
[08:44] <intelikey> bosco man apt    or  man apt-get        and look for update   and verbos  with the   /  search key
[08:44] <dli__> McPants, , try gaim, I know it provides you a menu to choose input methods
[08:44] <rewt_> my resolution is stuck at 1024x768
[08:44] <rewt_> i need a widescreen resolution
[08:44] <moulty> i have to copy by hand, working on another pc
[08:44] <rewt_> a high one
[08:44] <dli__> pvd2006, in console, run: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:45] <sovieticool> hy all
[08:45] <jb1> pvd2006: synaptic can fix it up for you Edit -> Fix Broken Packages
[08:45] <McPants> tried it, nothing in gaim either, I had looked before anyways. I'm thinking I'm missing a package
[08:45] <dli__> sovieticool, but no more russian, english only
[08:46] <sovieticool> no i'am from romania
[08:46] <sovieticool> :P
[08:46] <McPants> rewt: try adding the res to xorg.con
[08:46] <sovieticool> why i can't play music if i am a simple user
[08:46] <sovieticool> ???
[08:46] <moulty> uname -r  = 2.6.15-18-amd64-generic
[08:46] <dli__> McPants, open a chat window, and right click in the input area
[08:46] <sovieticool> only when i'am root i can select to play :((
[08:46] <YukiCuss> moulty, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-18-amd64-generic
[08:46] <moulty> i realise its dapper, but 5.10 wont run the gfx on that pc
[08:46] <dli__> moulty, right, apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-18-amd64-generic
[08:47] <moulty> thanks guys
[08:47] <McPants> the language I need isn't there
[08:47] <glick>  /join #c
[08:47] <sovieticool> hello know somebody my noob problem ?
[08:47] <dli__> sovieticool, are you in the audio group?
[08:47] <pvd2006> how can I locate where the program was installed? I checked /usr/bin
[08:48] <pvd2006> it fixed the package btw
[08:48] <sovieticool> i install xmmms
[08:48] <moulty> !!! yay!!!
[08:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, moulty
[08:48] <McPants> and besides, I need it everywhere, not just in im
[08:48] <manicka> pvd2006: synaptic will give you that info
[08:48] <dli__> McPants, if it's not in scim, bad luck, you have to read some docs
[08:48] <intelikey> pvd2006 find is good
[08:48] <moulty> yay! its working! thankyou!!
[08:49] <sovieticool> help me please i'am vey sad :(
[08:49] <rewt_> can someone help me now please with my resolution
[08:49] <intelikey> pvd2006 find /usr -name blah
[08:49] <sovieticool> how to put acces to a simple user to play music mp3...etc
[08:49] <McPants> yea the east asian languages are the thing, the others like accented I already could get by
[08:49] <moulty> ubotu dli YukiCuss thankyou, its installing
[08:49] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, moulty
[08:49] <dli__> rewt_, tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[08:49] <bosco> thank you got it figured otu
[08:49] <rewt_> dli, yes
[08:49] <moulty> ta
[08:49] <dli__> moulty, but ubotu is a bot :(
[08:49] <rewt_> i added the resolutions i wanted
[08:50] <rewt_> reboted my system
[08:50] <moulty> heh
[08:50] <rewt_> and still they dont show up in dropdown
[08:50] <dli__> rewt_, why rebooting? strange
[08:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rewt_ about fixres
[08:50] <McPants> but the language I need is showing in the scim tables config! Just nothing is happening
[08:50] <rewt_> i was just seeing if it would change
[08:50] <euphemism> i want to have my wife try ubuntu ... i first need to make the desktop all cute ... are there any amusements that work well in gnome like the xpenguins and the amor kittycat thing?
[08:50] <pvd2006> ok so I located the binary but its not loaded as a command...
[08:50] <pvd2006> that is wierd.
[08:50] <pvd2006> its under usr/NX/bin
[08:50] <pvd2006> nxclient
[08:51] <dli__> euphemism, I found ladies enjoy kde more :)
[08:51] <intelikey> this is linux   not  micro-reboot     reboot is only needed to change the kernel  or add/remove static hardware.
[08:51] <McPants> rewt: is it 1280x768 ?
[08:51] <pvd2006> I got it nevermind
[08:52] <dli__> euphemism, add backgrounds (for desktop, for xterm)
[08:52] <Mosi> I'm having a printer driver dilemma... My printer is a Brother MFC, and Brother only makes Linux driver binaries for x86, but i'm using a PPC. Does anyone know if there is anything like a generic cover-all printer driver that might detect my printer so i can use it?
[08:52] <intelikey> can you wall paper fvwm ?
[08:52] <glick> your printer is a gangsta rapper?
[08:52] <Seveas> @load exploitban
[08:53] <Mosi> glick: heh. no. Brother is the brand, and MFC as in Multi-Function Copier
[08:53] <Mosi> glick: i.e. copy, scan, print, fax, all that jazz
[08:53] <glick> ahhhh
[08:53] <glick> heh
[08:53] <Mosi> :P
[08:53] <intelikey> Seveas was that a bot update ?
[08:54] <sovieticool> how to alow to a user to be able to play music ?
[08:54] <sovieticool> now work only if i;am root
[08:54] <euphemism> mosi: my mfc9600 emulates an hp laserjet 2
[08:54] <dli__> sovieticool, are you in the audio group? sudo grep audio /etc/group
[08:54] <intelikey> sovieticool add them to the audio group ?
[08:54] <sovieticool> yes
[08:54] <sovieticool> aaa
[08:54] <sovieticool> ok now i understand :)
[08:55] <dli__> sovieticool, gpasswd -a sovieticool audio
[08:55] <dli__> sovieticool, logout and login again to allow the new group to take effects
[08:55] <Mosi> euphemism: i have a 6800, but that might still work. Did you go steal HP Laserjet drivers, or are there linux ones i can use? few companies distribute binaries for Linux on PPC, meaning most of the stuff i want to use i have to build from source.
[08:55] <sovieticool> ok
[08:56] <euphemism> mosi: you should be able to use the linux hp driver ... i'll google and give you a link
[08:57] <kameron> is there anyway to get k3b to handle mdf/mds files, to burn from image?
[08:57] <Mosi> euphemism: sweet ^_^ thanks. You wouldn't happen to know a driver that might work for the scanner, would you? ^_^;
[08:57] <intelikey> wow personal search engine
[08:58] <moulty> right! now I need "libc header files"
[08:58] <glick> anyone here running flapper drake?
[08:58] <AshyIsMe> hmm
[08:58] <AshyIsMe> xgl starts now
[08:58] <DogWater> anyone know if there is any plans for ubuntu to support the new core duo dell laptops in the future?
[08:58] <DogWater> it doesnt really work now
[08:58] <dli__> Mosi, are hpoj hplip drivers available for ppc?
[08:59] <AshyIsMe> but compiz won't because apparently xcomposite isnt installed
[08:59] <intelikey> i run man drake  does that count ?
[08:59] <glick> DogWater, thats a kernel thing
[08:59] <Mosi> dli__: I don't know, i hope so
[08:59] <glick> and yess the linux kernel runs on it
[08:59] <AshyIsMe> synaptic says it is installed though
[08:59] <DogWater> what the GDM/X server thing?
[08:59] <dli__> DogWater, I suppose you just enable SMP in kernel
[08:59] <AshyIsMe> what's going on?
[08:59] <DogWater> it doesnt support my video card
[08:59] <DogWater> and the linux kernel does
[08:59] <DogWater> so no, its a ubuntu thing
[08:59] <DogWater> ;-)
[08:59] <glick> anyone runnin the drakker duck or whatever its called
[08:59] <dli__> DogWater, I don't know about the story of ubuntu on MacBook
[08:59] <DogWater> hehe
[08:59] <glick> drapper dapper
[09:00] <Seveas> !dapper
[09:00] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[09:00] <DogWater> dli__: macbook? lol its a dell
[09:00] <sovieticool> i try but don't work :(
[09:00] <ReWT_AxS> none of those fixes worked
[09:00] <sovieticool> i don't habe acces to mounted parti..
[09:00] <dli__> DogWater, you asked for core duo, and macbook is also core duo
[09:00] <moulty> dli_  , YukiCuss , now I need to install libc headers?
[09:01] <dli__> moulty, just curious, what are you doing? why not try gentoo?
[09:01] <YukiCuss> moulty, might be a good idea.
[09:01] <pvd2006> cosmopod is pretty cool
[09:01] <DogWater> well all intell chips are core duo now :D
[09:02] <DogWater> even the celerons dude
[09:02] <intelikey> moulty i told you  b-e
[09:02] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:02] <moulty> im just trying to install my NFORCE chipset, for audio and gfx drivers
[09:02] <dli__> moulty, I hate nvidia
[09:03] <intelikey> !nvidia
[09:03] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:03] <ReWT_AxS> grr ill never get this resolution right
[09:03] <ReWT_AxS> >.<
[09:03] <McPants> what is your resolution??
[09:03] <glick> anyone here still runnin hoary?
[09:04] <euphemism> mosi: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-MFC-9050
[09:04] <ReWT_AxS> 1024x768
[09:04] <ReWT_AxS> i need a high one for my widescreen
[09:04] <intelikey> glick
[09:04] <Blizzy> Hi,   I'm quite new to Linux, and I've recently installed Ubuntu 5.04 and upgraded to Breezy. So far my learning of Linux has gone great, but I've had only one problem that I've been unable to resolve: basically, my sound isn't working. I'm using ALSA, I am listed in users and groups for audio, and I'm not muted. Sound also works perfectly in WinXP.     Now, I've searched about 3 or 4 forums and still cannot fix this problem.   Can anyone help?
[09:04] <Mosi> euphemism: thanks :)
[09:04] <ReWT_AxS> ive reconfigured xorg
[09:04] <McPants> what is the widescreen resolution?
[09:04] <ReWT_AxS> i dont remember
[09:04] <Overand> ReWT_AxS: how high, heh.  Mine's 2560x1600 =]
[09:04] <moulty> dli_ thanks anyway
[09:04] <ReWT_AxS> thats why i needed a few in my drop dwn box to test
[09:04] <euphemism> mosi: never messed with the scanner on mine
[09:04] <ReWT_AxS> I have a compaq presarion v2000
[09:04] <euphemism> good luck :)
[09:04] <ReWT_AxS> its like a 14" widesceen i think
[09:04] <McPants> well if nothing else works, you have to try putting it into xorg, but you must know what it is
[09:05] <dli__> Blizzy, sudo aplay /dev/urandom
[09:05] <ReWT_AxS> i did out 1280x768 in there
[09:05] <ReWT_AxS> but still nothing happened
[09:05] <Overand> ReWT_AxS: look up the model of the screen or the model of the laptop (if it's a laptop) online to make sure
[09:05] <concept10> i have a problem.  sometimes my cd rom on my laptop is just accessing (the light is flashing).. with no disc in there. When I try to play a CD rom, it will not access without a reboot?  How do I begin to solve this?  Unmount it?
[09:05] <McPants> it would be better if you knew what it was
[09:05] <Overand> if you don't know what the rez is
[09:05] <intelikey> glick ?
[09:05] <glick> yes intelikey ?
[09:06] <McPants> also, if it's an lcd, which being widescreen it must be, if you dont have a dvi cable, it will probably blur without the right refresh rate
[09:06] <ReWT_AxS> its 1280x768 is what im supposed to have
[09:06] <intelikey> you asked about 5.4 for what reason ?
[09:06] <ReWT_AxS> i just looked
[09:06] <ReWT_AxS> online
[09:06] <protocol1> ReWT_AxS, I have one too
[09:06] <glick> i was just wondering if its still supportetd
[09:06] <glick> or if its dead pretty much
[09:06] <ReWT_AxS> protocoli, you have one what?
[09:07] <intelikey> it's dead but it's as good as it ever was.
[09:07] <ReWT_AxS> presario v2000?
[09:07] <protocol1> the same model notebook as you
[09:07] <protocol1> yeah
[09:07] <ReWT_AxS> what gfx driver are you using
[09:07] <P> moii
[09:07] <protocol1> i810
[09:07] <P> hallo
[09:08] <protocol1> well its actually a Compaq V2309US to be specific
[09:08] <protocol1> presario*
[09:08] <intelikey> glick they have promised to suppore dipper drake for 5years.    so i'll up to that when it ships i guess.
[09:08] <P> moi ida
[09:08] <ReWT_AxS> protocoli join me in #v2000
[09:08] <glick> intelikey, why so long?
[09:08] <protocol1> ok
[09:09] <manteli> moi blli
[09:09] <intelikey> servers
[09:09] <glick> ?
[09:09] <P> moimoi
[09:09] <manteli> blli hr e myyyskoga typpin
[09:09] <P> e d bra???!
[09:09] <P> JO
[09:09] <intelikey> cant convince anyone to switch a major server to ubuntu if they know it is only supported for 6 months
[09:09] <Overand> glick: from the wiki:  HoaryHedgehog - Version 5.04. Previous stable release; supported until October 2006. (BugTracking)
[09:10] <Blizzy> Blah, I don't think I'm ever going to be able to resolve this sound issue.
[09:10] <intelikey> so support it for 5 years, pull in some major server market
[09:10] <DarthShrine> What options should I have for /home in /etc/fstab?
[09:11] <Overand> DarthShrine: that depends entirely on if you have a partition for /home or not
[09:11] <DarthShrine> Overand, I do...Otherwise I probably wouldn't ask :)
[09:11] <bfmlso> bfmso
[09:11] <glick> so they wont release another version of ubuntu for 5 years?
[09:11] <Overand> glick: wrong
[09:11] <intelikey> DarthShrine defaults 0 0
[09:11] <Overand> glick: they release ~every 6 months
[09:11] <Seveas> glick, the next one will be in october
[09:11] <McPants> ah, not it works all of a sudden, but it seems it's like the win9x version, doesnt force on everything, it's ok though
[09:11] <DarthShrine> intelikey, Thanks
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> i need 1280x768 resolution >.< nbothing is working
[09:12] <Overand> Seveas: last I read it was estimated for June
[09:12] <Seveas> Overand, I meant the one after that :D
[09:12] <intelikey> Seveas err drake isnt out yet
[09:12] <intelikey> oh heheh
[09:12] <Overand> Seveas: hhe ok
[09:12] <Blizzy> No one can help with my problem?  I've searched and posted on the Ubuntu forums, a few computer-tech forums, and linux forums. =(
[09:12] <Overand> gah, good typing me.
[09:13] <ReWT_AxS> Blizzy, whats the matter?
[09:13] <Overand> Blizzy: i haven't seen you ask
[09:13] <Overand> i've only seen you say "argh i don't think i'l.."
[09:13] <Overand> ...
[09:13] <Overand> hm
[09:13] <Overand> Well, that was special.
[09:13] <ReWT_AxS> i need 1280x768 resolution >.< still nothing is working
[09:13] <intelikey> special
[09:14] <moulty> intelikey & ubotu!!! thankyou, you bits of genius you! " sudo apt-get install build-essential " worked a treat!
[09:14] <protocol1> intelikey, what the command for video estup?
[09:14] <glick> whats the next ubuntu gonna be called? Freaky Frog?
[09:14] <protocol1> setup*
[09:14] <glick> Slippery Salamander
[09:14] <Seveas> Edgy Eagle
[09:15] <intelikey> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:15] <glick> oh god
[09:15] <glick> they should let me name em
[09:15] <ReWT_AxS> intelikey, ive done that numerous amounts of time
[09:15] <moulty> Phunky Monkey?
[09:15] <Jambon> Elegant Elephant
[09:15] <Jambon> Mischevious Monkey
[09:15] <moulty> Desperate Dog
[09:15] <moulty> Deranged Dog
[09:16] <Jambon> Rabid Rat
[09:16] <glick> sappy snake
[09:16] <moulty> Rancid*
[09:16] <kbrosnan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[09:16] <ReWT_AxS> Can someone help me? I need 1280x768 resolution >.< still nothing is working I've reconfigure xserver too many times
[09:16] <glick> smelly cat
[09:16] <intelikey> ReWT_AxS that was just answering protocol1, ReWT_AxS i feel for you on the wide screen issue.  but i have no wideys so i am still ignorant about those things.
[09:16] <glick> hehe
[09:16] <moulty> Gummy Fish?
[09:17] <McPants> that resolution works, I tried it on a live cd on my friend's pc
[09:19] <glick> d
[09:19] <glick> d
[09:19] <glick> d
[09:19] <ReWT_AxS> f
[09:19] <glick> d
[09:19] <ReWT_AxS> finally
[09:19] <glick> dd
[09:19] <glick> d
[09:19] <glick> d
[09:19] <glick> d
[09:19] <protocol1> thank you
[09:19] <intelikey> ?
[09:19] <ReWT_AxS> Mcpants, I've switched to the mesa driver
[09:19] <ReWT_AxS> not the ati anymore
[09:19] <intelikey> thank you
[09:19] <Seveas> somehow that ban didn't work as planned
[09:20] <ReWT_AxS> ati kept crashing
[09:20] <protocol1> please ops, dont scare me
[09:20] <ReWT_AxS> now im stuck on this damn 1024x768 resolution
[09:20] <McPants> I dont think it matters, that's x-server issues
[09:20] <nalioth> ReWT_AxS: uncheck the resolutions you DON'T want
[09:20] <hellsfallenangel> i have problems with creative pcmcia soundblaster audigy2 card, when i plug it in ubuntu crashes
[09:21] <newcomplexlife> hello, i have a problem, i update to dapper and only can entry in mode recovery
[09:22] <McPants> it's so weird man, scim should support that, I can just paste the foreign text into nautilus and it works...
[09:22] <newcomplexlife> how can resolve??
[09:22] <Blizzy> Can anyone help with a sound problem? Can't hear anything. Listed in Users and Groups, using ALSA, not muted. Whats going on?
[09:22] <newcomplexlife> help me
[09:22] <intelikey> newcomplexlife maybe    rm /home/<your user name>/.*auth*   and try again.
[09:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Blizzy about sound
[09:23] <newcomplexlife> ok i try
[09:23] <newcomplexlife> write this in console?
[09:23] <intelikey> yes
[09:23] <concept10> my cd rom is 'stuck' cant mount it or umount it .... suggestions?
[09:23] <McPants> shut down and pull it out?
[09:24] <newcomplexlife> reboot now?
[09:24] <intelikey> concept10  sudo eject
[09:24] <intelikey> newcomplexlife yes
[09:24] <newcomplexlife> ok
[09:25] <newcomplexlife> thanks
[09:25] <concept10> intelikey, that doesnt do anything but eject it, I still cant mount it
[09:25] <newcomplexlife> i tell you later
[09:25] <moulty> RE: Nvidia drivers.   Now installed and working, thanks for the help!!!!!!
[09:25] <intelikey> concept10 is it music cd ?
[09:25] <StravlonB> Hi, I have problems with an old Intel BX-Board and a broken USB-Hub. USB is disabled in BIOS, but the console is full with usb-errors. I stopped installation of ubuntu after 5 Hours - how can I tell the installation to ignore usb?
[09:25] <concept10> intelikey, dvd, but that doesnt matter
[09:25] <Nabiki> :P I accidently hit ctrl+z for undo, how do I bring my nano session back to the active page?
[09:25] <peter_pan> servus
[09:26] <intelikey> it does.  you don't mount music
[09:26] <concept10> the cd rom is already trying to assess Im trying to stop it
[09:26] <peter_pan> zwei
[09:26] <protocol1> ok when I try to apt-get install a package I want I get this "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 19 13:30:06 2006" does that mean anything?
[09:26] <concept10> intelikey, you dont mount dvds either, you mount devices
[09:26] <intelikey> Nabiki  fg
[09:26] <peter_pan> fuckyou
[09:26] <cafuego> !de
[09:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:26] <Nabiki> Thanks
[09:27] <ReWT_AxS> well i removed the ones i didnt want
[09:27] <ReWT_AxS> and when i rebooted i had 640x480 resolution
[09:27] <bfmlso> ef
[09:27] <intelikey> Nabiki that ^Z pushes a process to the 'back ground'  you  call it back to the 'fore ground' with  fg
[09:27] <ReWT_AxS> and not the 1280x768 that i chose
[09:28] <bfmlso> are you
[09:28] <intelikey> Nabiki a very handy cli tool.
[09:28] <Nabiki> Thanks
[09:28] <DarthShrine> I'm at the stage of Ubuntu LiveCD install where you generate the grub config. I'm in a "grub prompt" and it says to type "root(hd0,4)" this isn't the same for every situation is it?
[09:28] <misterii> whats the start command for totem-xine?
[09:28] <moulty> Yeah audio!!!! horaah, smooth video!!
[09:29] <intelikey> totem-xine[tab]     hehhe
[09:29] <protocol1> intelikey, isnt there a way ReWT_AxS can fix that in his xorg.conf file?
[09:29] <intelikey> yes protocol1, that is where it has to be fixed.  but i have no wide screen exp.
[09:29] <McPants> it might be the driver then
[09:30] <ReWT_AxS> well how do i fix it >.<
[09:30] <McPants> All I have is an nvidia so I couldn't say about that one
[09:30] <Ku-guy> ReWT_AxS: What chipset is your video card utilizing?
[09:30] <intelikey> protocol1 do you want me to "guess" what "might" work for him/her ?
[09:30] <protocol1> sure
[09:30] <protocol1> Im am so noob
[09:31] <ReWT_AxS> Ku-guy, err don't know what you're asking but it's a ATI Radeon Xpress 200m
[09:31] <[nige] > hello
[09:31] <[nige] > !kde
[09:31] <ubotu> [kde]  A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[09:31] <Nabiki> !ubotu tell me about dvd.
[09:32] <intelikey> ReWT_AxS i would goto  http://monitorworld.com  and search for the monitor   if it is listed the  rates will be posted,  put them in  your /etc/X11/xorg.conf   the  vert and horz    and try again.
[09:32] <moulty> !ubotu make me a cup of tea.
[09:32] <ubotu> moulty: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:32] <moulty> *tut*
[09:32] <intelikey> and it's probably a lappy.... so it may not be there...
[09:32] <misterii> which is lighter? Kubuntu or xubuntu?
[09:32] <cafuego> xubuntu
[09:32] <cafuego> by a lot
[09:32] <Blizzy> Why do I get the error message (bash: alsaconf: command not found
[09:32] <Blizzy> ) when trying to do the command "alsaconf"
[09:33] <protocol1> everything works dandy on my notebook accept for 3d hardware acceleration...  :(
[09:33] <moulty> !ubotu what is error 303?
[09:33] <ubotu> moulty: what are you talking about?
[09:33] <intelikey> cafuego aren't you  a fvwm fan ?
[09:33] <moulty> !ubotu ask HAL
[09:33] <ubotu> moulty: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:33] <protocol1> I also got open gl direct rendering to work good too
[09:33] <cafuego> intelikey: Not this milennium, no.
[09:34] <misterii> cafuego, well, my xubuntu is way too slow.... I think it could/should be faster with 400Mhz/63Mb Ram
[09:34] <bfmlso> we are don't know how used the ubugtu,who help me
[09:34] <intelikey> hmmm k i guess it was someong else i was thinking of.
[09:34] <misterii> I have 686 kernel
[09:34] <Blizzy> Does anyone else get the error (bash: alsaconf: command not found
[09:34] <Blizzy> ) when trying to do the command alsaconf?
[09:34] <protocol1> ok when I try to apt-get install a package I want I get this "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 19 13:30:06 2006" does that mean anything?
[09:34] <cafuego> Blizzy: yes, probably everyone.
[09:34] <misterii> Blizzy, did you sudo it?
[09:35] <ReWT_AxS> its not under there
[09:35] <intelikey> misterii ram is at a premium there.  when ist starts swapping it will get slow as molasses
[09:35] <cafuego> There is no such command, so sudo won't help either.
[09:35] <Blizzy> But at sites where people have sound it says to use that command
[09:35] <Blizzy> sound problems*
[09:35] <misterii> aaah... ok, I thought it was only me :D
[09:35] <cafuego> Blizzy: those people don't use Ubuntu, then.
[09:36] <misterii> so, how to access alsaconf BTW?
[09:36] <bfmlso> how used chinese
[09:36] <intelikey> Blizzy learn to use the [tab]  key to complete things you type in bash.
[09:36] <cafuego> !find bin/alsaconf
[09:36] <newcomplexlife> the problem continues
[09:36] <protocol1> im trying to dpkg a file and it keeps saying timestamp to far in future?
[09:37] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  alsa
[09:37] <intelikey> alsactl    alsamixer
[09:37] <newcomplexlife> i only can entry in mode recovery
[09:37] <intelikey> the tab key produces the second line....
[09:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/alsaconf' returned no results.
[09:37] <newcomplexlife> i have a problem sis630 bus not detected
[09:38] <Blizzy> Ergh, getting a headache..
[09:38] <intelikey> urpmq says  alsaconf is in   alsa-utils - ALSA utilities