[00:00] <guzzi_jones> I want to back it up
[00:00] <guzzi_jones> i tried to take a snapshot with lvcreate  -L 107G -s -n backup /dev/vg0/vm1
[00:00] <guzzi_jones> i cannot mount it.
[00:05] <superkuh> Alright, I've written up the details of my Caja/Thunar segfaults regarding glib2.0. I would really appreciate any suggestions; particularly as to where I should submit this bug. The MATE DE dev launchpad was far too specific/downstream, I think.
[00:05] <superkuh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244484
[00:14] <Bashing-om> superkuh: Good write-up, hopefully will get the attention of some who can help. On other note, as you can post, you are encouraged to post in the Resolution Center to resolve that issue with your old account, and perhpas edit your settings preferences.
[00:15] <Win7> hello everyone
[00:15] <Win7> guys if you do me this favour i will be grateful
[00:15] <superkuh> Yeah, I just ended up typing everything in gvim then pasting.
[00:15] <Bashing-om> !ask | Win7
[00:16] <superkuh> So the old accounts still exist?
[00:16] <Win7> I have a Dell Ultrabook 12 9Q23 Touch screen . I would like to install Ubuntu 14 or Linux Mint if i do one of those two will i lose the touch screen or is it going to be supported ? please guys help me
[00:16] <cmanns__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452159/ubuntu-14-04-multi-touch-screen-support
[00:17] <Bashing-om> superkuh: Yeah, it will still exist .. as to what it will take to resolve to the cuttent account, can not say. That is an admin function. ( seen it done many times) .
[00:17] <Bashing-om> cuttent/current*
[00:17]  * superkuh nods.
[00:17] <cmanns__> Win7 read that
[00:35] <iFire> gardar: I fixed it
[00:35] <iFire> gardar: https://coderwall.com/p/2ufa0g
[00:36] <gardar> geed to hear iFire :)
[00:37] <iFire> gardar: I saw speeds of 112 and 70 mb per second
[00:37] <gardar> awesome!
[00:38] <Kazooie> Whoever done the work for ubuntu-mate-desktop, awesome frickin' job! It's more beautiful that I could have imagined!
[00:39] <expunge> it's GNOME 2 with more green
[00:40] <expunge> they don't want your thanks, they want you to use GNOME 3 =P
[00:40] <fission6> really hoping someone could lend some help. have a site running for two years, no problems on aws ec2 ubuntu, tonight i popped in a new ssl cert and restarted nginx, thats all. about ten minutes later BAM, can't hit my website nor SSH.  I'm very happy Ubuntu MATE is a thing now.
[00:42] <Kazooie> and since when did we use hexchat rather than xchat?
[00:42] <expunge> since hexchat was made, basically
[00:42] <expunge> it's better maintained, a lot better maintained
[00:43] <expunge> if only the devs would stop fiddling with GUI bits they needn't, though...
[00:55] <simonsaysdiaf> Hello. I was trying to help my friend fix his login issue, and I believe that I commented something or edited something in a way that broke login completely. Previously the GUI login would be caught in a boot loop, but then i could get to the tty. Now when I go to the tty, it's just a hanging screen. there's a blinking cursor but I can't login or input text at all.
[00:55] <quantibility> anyone got time to help me with my decrypted drive problem?
[00:56] <TLoFP> hi, I did a dual boot of ubuntu and windows and now windows won't start anymore: GRUB recognized windows correctly and the windows loader starts but it doesn't actually do anything other then show th esplash screen, what could the problem be?
[00:56] <quantibility> TLOFP sounds to me like windows problem persay
[00:57] <iFire> TLoFP: you know how to tell windows to reset the boot loader?
[00:57] <quantibility> perhaps ubuntu changed a few things that windows now doesn't recognize as proper
[00:57] <Bashing-om> simonsaysdiaf: Can you log in through grub's recovery console ?
[00:57] <iFire> that'll make it work
[00:57] <ObrienDave> TLoFP, start windows again, tap F8 key for boot menu, go into safemode with networking and restart
[00:57] <simonsaysdiaf> Bashing-om: it seems like he's bypassing grub
[00:57] <simonsaysdiaf> any idea how to get to grub?
[00:57] <quantibility> ObrienDave is right
[00:57] <quantibility> so
[00:57] <TLoFP> IFire no I do not
[00:58] <quantibility> anyone with the encrypted drive problem i got going?
[00:58] <TLoFP> ObrienDave I will try safe mode
[00:58] <ObrienDave> quantibility, not if you don't explain what the issue is :)
[00:58] <somsip> quantibility: just say what the problem is and people will help if they can
[00:58] <quantibility> ok, I decrypt the drive and bam the icon in Desktop vanishes
[00:59] <quantibility> im on USB stick
[00:59] <quantibility> installed xubuntu
[00:59] <TLoFP> OBrienDave I did so and it loaded a bunch of drivers but then just stops at some point
[00:59] <Bashing-om> simonsaysdiaf: Try: reboot, and as soon as the bios screen ckears, depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu, -> advanced -> choose a 'recovery' kernel, enter key to start the recovery console.
[00:59] <ObrienDave> what was the last one?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> ckears/clears*
[01:00] <simonsaysdiaf> Bashing-om: okay i'll try that thanks
[01:00] <Bashing-om> somsip: Once in the recovery console, will see what we can do.
[01:01] <Bashing-om> simonsaysdiaf: ^^, soory to ping on ya somsip !
[01:01] <simonsaysdiaf> np :)
[01:01] <simonsaysdiaf> he's currently trying to put another harddrive in, so we'll see. this computer had the most bizarre setup I'd ever seen
[01:02] <quantibility> ObrienDave, i recently had a boot problem with my Xubuntu installation after update, I use low latency and various other drivers cores, so i just didn't wanna reisntall, so i USB ed and installation in hopes i can just copy usb files to the HD and hope for the best
[01:02] <simonsaysdiaf> he had upstart and systemd stuff. he said he did a fresh install og 14.04 and it was the most jacked up install i've ever seen
[01:09] <Bashing-om> simonsaysdiaf: ubuntu is making the switch to systemD, and there is now a bit if it in the operating system.
[01:11] <simonsaysdiaf> ahhhh
[01:22] <TLoFP> so I have tried everything to fix the windows install, including trying to boot windows recovery from an external drive, but they all exhibit the same problems
[01:22] <TLoFP> it stops booting
[01:22] <TLoFP> now, please don't write this off as a "windows" problem
[01:22] <TLoFP> I have had problems before were my sound did not work on the windows7 install because I had it muted in Ubuntu
[01:23] <TLoFP> in other words Ubuntu seems to be capable of making changes that effect the windows partition
[01:23] <TLoFP> I can only assume that this happens via the BIOS
[01:26] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: Nope, Operating system(S) do not write back to bios : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .
[01:27] <ObrienDave> TLoFP, how long do you let it sit?
[01:27] <TLoFP> ObrienDave, longest I left it was 30 min
[01:27] <ObrienDave> k
[01:27] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, then explain why I can I disable the the sound device by muting it in linux?
[01:28] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, then explain how I can, via software, turn off physical devices like WiFi
[01:29] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: That is hardware, yeah it does happen. But hardware is not bios. Most times the hard ware is controlled by some driver. if the driver leaves the hardware in some state, well that is the state the hardware is left in.
[01:30] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, ok.. my diagnosis was wrong then, it doesn't change the bios
[01:30] <TLoFP> but i am now left in the situtation where Ubuntu made a change to my hardware that leaves me unable to boot windows
[01:31] <TLoFP> and I don't know when it happaned because I was dual booting fine for some time
[01:32] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: Yepper, no writting back to bios .. CMOS, very limited means to rewite bios. OK, I have not followed your situation. Restate it for me and I will give an opinion, bear in mind I am no longer Windows litererate, but I am not senile.
[01:33] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, I am dual booting Ubuntu and Windows. I shutdown Ubuntu and went to boot windows. Grub worked fine. Even the windows boot loader worked fine. However windows just gets stuck at the splash screen. A verbose boot into safemode reveals that it loads drivers but hangs at some point (seems to be always the same driver).
[01:35] <TLoFP> Bash_Rules, I am convinced that Ubuntu did something to the hardware because: I can not boot into recover mode, either from the internal disk or from an external drive (windows recovery mode). 2: because I know this laptop exhibits the following "bug" if I mute the sound in Ubuntu and then shutdown and boot to windows, windows does not find any audio devices.
[01:37] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: (think BOOT CODE ). Boot code gets corrupted, and no will be able to hand off to the operating system. Be a pain, but in Windows 'fixmbr', boot Windows, all good with Windows, OK, now (re-)install ubuntu's grub - liveDVD - , "sudo update-grub" to chainload Windows. // We are talking that Windows and ubuntu are installed to the same hard drive, right ?
[01:38] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, yes windows and ubuntu are installed on the same hardrive, I already tried to fix GRUB with utility
[01:39] <TLoFP> Bashion-om I used boot-repair
[01:39] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: Yeah, you say grub is good, windows has the problem booting. a) boot code -> fixmbr b) bad file system -> chkdsk . see what results .
[01:40] <TLoFP> I can fixmbr from ubuntu side, right?
[01:40] <ObrienDave> TLoFP, probably not
[01:40] <TLoFP> well that doesn't help if Ubuntu is the onlything booting on this machine
[01:41] <TLoFP> like I said, I can not boot windows from an external drive, I can't boot recovery CDs either
[01:41] <quantibility> so no one with an answer to my problem?
[01:41] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: Nope, Windows tools for Windows problems .. from a Windows utility (recovery) disk run 'fixmbr' .
[01:42] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, Windows Recovery Utility does not boot
[01:42] <RKyle> Does Ubuntu support raid 10?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: IF you can not boot a DVD, and you are sure you have the boot priority set properly as the DVD as 1st priority. Time to reset bios to the defaults and see what results.
[01:43] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, boot priority is correct as the bootloader works fine (windows version of grub)
[01:43] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: Also .. what is the method of booting .. UEFI or bios ?
[01:43] <TLoFP> but when it tries to boot the windows OS, weather it is the recover CD, recover USB stick, or win7 on the internal disk, it hangs
[01:44] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, I am not sure about that question
[01:45] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: UEFI is the new partitioning/booting method, late Window7 is the 1st appearance. How the CPU is set up for booting differs between the 2 .
[01:46] <ObrienDave> TLoFP, UEFI and BIOS are two different setups for motherboards. makes a difference at boot time
[01:47] <squinty> TLoFP:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:48] <ObrienDave> !uefi | TLoFP
[01:49] <martin1989> hi
[01:49] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[01:49] <martin1989> does someone here know vector linux
[01:49] <martin1989> ??
[01:50] <martin1989> where can i ask about it?
[01:50] <wheatthin> probably at their channel lol or search google.
[01:50] <expunge> martin1989: /msg alis list *vector*
[01:51] <martin1989> ok
[01:51] <martin1989> thnx
[01:51] <TLoFP> Bashing-om, ObrienDave it is not UEFI
[01:54] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: OK, trouble shooting process -> MUST boot the recovery CD. so, will that recovery CD boot in another box ? yes -> good CD, NO then the problem is specific to this box -> reset to defailts in bios. NOW will the recovery CD boot ? ( ID the cd drive working fine in ubuntu ?, can not at this time rule out a bad CD drive, hard ware does fail at the worst of times .
[01:59] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: Still with us ? I must be away from the keyboard for a few .. be back sonnest.
[02:07] <empyrean> hi folks. got a question regarding network overruns. there seems to be a number of causes, most of which points to interrupt handling, some articles mention resolving network overruns by enlarging the rx ring size, im wondering if changing the kernel values eg. net.ipv4.tcp_rmem and net.ipv4.tcp_wmem will help?
[02:12] <litropy> when I $ lshw all it outputs is PCI (sysfs) and it kinda ... hangs there. 12.04
[02:13] <litropy> nevermind
[02:13] <litropy> it just took a bit
[02:13] <expunge> yup
[02:13] <expunge> they decided ordinary output wasn't fancy enough
[02:13]  * expunge rolls eyes
[02:13] <litropy> :P
[02:15] <litropy> Alrighty, I have a tin can with a NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] using driver=nouveau. What do you think - open-source or proprietary for the switch?
[02:15] <expunge> litropy: one or the other
[02:15] <expunge> for sure
[02:16] <litropy> expunge, what's the OS driver for nvidia?
[02:16] <expunge> nouveau
[02:16] <expunge> no doubt a play on 'nv' and the meaning of 'nouveau'
[02:16] <litropy> ... oh
[02:18] <ObrienDave> nah, really? please tell me you're kidding, right?
[02:19] <expunge> quoi?
[02:19] <Bashing-om> TLoFP: I am back. Hoz the recovery CD ?
[02:20] <ObrienDave> martin1989, why would you come to a Ubuntu channel for Vector help?
[02:21] <expunge> well, ubuntu likes brown
[02:21] <expunge> and vector is like a line...
[02:21] <expunge> same diff? =P
[02:21] <leonardo_> ls
[02:24] <RKyle> im stupid
[02:24] <cmanns__> Anybody know make optimizations?
[02:24] <cmanns__> I'm building some older software for a friends lubuntu on my lubuntu
[02:25] <cmanns__> I guess we will both use it
[02:28] <wheatthin> cmanns__, I don't think that's a help topic
[02:29] <wheatthin> but you can try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:29] <cmanns__> Ok
[02:31] <Guest172> what is this place for?
[02:31] <expunge> Guest172: should say at the top of your window
[02:32] <phunyguy> Again, a reminder to the masses (wheatthin) #ubuntu-offtopic is NOT a support channel.  Please don't send users there as a "catch-all" for things not ubuntu related.
[02:32] <wheatthin> excuse me, but i hadn't used it as a catch all. But feel free to guide him to another channel if you're so uptight about it
[02:33] <expunge> but only if
[02:33] <wheatthin> lol
[02:33] <phunyguy> wheatthin: just a reminder.  relax.
[02:34] <expunge> wheatthin: why you gotta have soybean oil in you =/
[02:34] <wheatthin> You've reminded me plenty.. But like I said, if you have a problem with me sending him there, for make optiimizations , and you might know a better place, feel free
[02:34] <wheatthin> cause I'm tasty
[02:35] <phunyguy> wheatthin: That is not the purpose of the -offtopic channel, and we should be making an effort in THIS channel to send them to a more proper place.  I am just letting you know that #ubuntu-offtopic is probably not the best place.  They most likely will not get a serious response there.  Now please can we drop it?
[02:35] <wheatthin> maybe a development channel of some sorts
[02:35] <wheatthin> but still I don't know it.. so by all means, don't argue with me, and point him to the right place.
[02:36] <phunyguy> wheatthin: you are allowed to not provide an answer if you don't know.
[02:36] <wheatthin> and you're allowed not to harass people who are trying to help.
[02:37] <phunyguy> ... a gentle nudge was harrassing?   Alright... I'll drop it.
[02:37] <wheatthin> thank you.. hugs*
[02:39] <wheatthin> in some countries a 'gentle nudge' could get someones head cutoff lol..  But what channel would you advise that guy to go to? if he hadn't already left
[02:39] <phunyguy> !alis
[02:39] <phunyguy> three are plenty.
[02:39] <expunge> wheatthin: me? I wouldn't have =)
[02:39] <phunyguy> there*
[02:40] <expunge> he wasn't interfering with anything
[02:40] <cmanns__> I just wanted some suggestions on how to take advantage of some make optimizations and use multiple cpu for compile time gone down
[02:40] <cmanns__> They helped I'm greatful thx
[02:40] <phunyguy> cmanns__: nothing wrong with that.
[02:40] <wheatthin> :)
[02:40] <wheatthin> congrats
[02:40] <phunyguy> cmanns__: lucky.  ;)
[02:41] <phunyguy> wheatthin: a side note about -offtopic, another reason is because the folks that hang out in there generally are taking a break from support.
[02:41] <cmanns__> I doubt it'll help but I do need to speed up compile because on friends PC it seems flightgear is going ot take hours
[02:42] <expunge> why not just use a prebuilt bin?
[02:44] <phunyguy> I think he mentioned (in -offtopic) that there weren't any prebuilt of what he needed, expunge
[02:46] <expunge> phunyguy: pretty unlikely
[02:46] <charlie5> hi folks ... could anyone recommend a usb wireless network adapter for ubuntu which works 'out of the box' ?
[02:47] <xangua> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/ charlie5
[02:47] <cmanns__> I'm using flightgear 1.0.0
[02:48] <cmanns__> Why would it be built for latest lubuntu distro release
[02:48] <cmanns__> 3.0.0 is
[02:48] <cmanns__> we just tried it again for giggles
[02:48] <expunge> charlie5: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users
[02:48] <cmanns__> 845GL intel graphics processer blows man
[02:48] <expunge> intel stuff tends to be more straightforward
[02:48] <phunyguy> expunge: I meant the version he needed
[02:48] <cmanns__> it works okay
[02:48] <expunge> phunyguy: I meant pretty unlikely =)
[02:49] <smart_developer> Does anyone know what 'ZBF' stands for ?
[02:49] <charlie5> thanks xangua expunge ... will take a look
[02:49] <expunge> smart_developer: context?
[02:49] <cmanns__> hehe
[02:49] <cmanns__> yeah I ain't doing this for no reason
[02:50] <cmanns__> but hey if compile optimization makes it bigger and run alil smoother yey, it lags cpu wise apparently on windows
[02:50] <cmanns__> Oddly linux uses tons of cpu too its a p4 2.4ghz or so
[02:50] <expunge> as long as you aren't spending more time than what it'd take to earn money to replace it with a better computer =P
[02:51] <cmanns__> its not my computer
[02:51] <cmanns__> Family computer my friend has
[02:51] <expunge> that'd be even worse
[02:51] <cmanns__> ?
[02:52] <cmanns__> but I'm using a 3 core virtualbox to compile the software and put on his system :D
[02:52] <expunge> you're virtualizing hardware? Why
[02:53] <litropy> Oh, boy. Okay, I switched my video driver to nvidia's proprietary driver, and now I'm locked in 640x480 resolution. Does anyone have a quick fix for me? Everything is so huge yet the box is so small ... It would be difficult to do anything task-intensive.
[02:53] <ObrienDave> and this is an Ubuntu support issue how?
[02:53] <litropy> I can edit xorg configs if I need to.
[02:53] <expunge> litropy: nvidia-xconfig
[02:53] <smart_developer> expunge : "ZBF auditor" ?
[02:53] <cmanns__> expunge so I build his software and I'll run it too
[02:53] <expunge> smart_developer: more context
[02:54] <cmanns__> too lazy to compile flightgear 1.0.0 for mac os so I been using it in windows virtualbox, works okay I wonder how linux will be
[02:54] <ObrienDave> and this is an Ubuntu support issue how?
[02:54] <cmanns__> its not
[02:54] <expunge> ObrienDave: you tell us
[02:55] <expunge> cmanns__: not in macports/fink/homebrew?
[02:55] <expunge> sure I saw it on their website, too
[02:55] <litropy> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[02:55] <cmanns__> it is but my mac needs new disk setup I'm not doing too much intensive stuff or it gets really bad IO wise
[02:55] <litropy> expunge
[02:55] <cmanns__> virtualbox 3d works pretty good :D
[02:55] <OerHeks> smart_developer, sounds like sisco zone based firewall
[02:56] <cmanns__> I do have a ubuntu support question though
[02:56] <TyrfingMjolnir> How do I upgrade from 10.04 to latest LTS?
[02:56] <cmanns__> How can I make sure hard drive is fully optimized
[02:56] <ObrienDave> use EXT4
[02:57] <xangua> TyrfingMjolnir: you will have to upgrade first to 12.04 and then to 14.04 if you want to get to latest LTS, a fresh install would be faster
[02:57] <gndlp> TyrfingMjolnir: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:57] <expunge> zero byte something
[02:57] <cmanns__> Using EXT4, zRAM, I think I enabled DMA still need to check, noop scheduler.
[02:57] <superkuh> Upgrading from 10.04 to 14.04 is a nightmare.
[02:57] <expunge> litropy: let it make a new one
[02:57] <cmanns__> I need to change some of the ext4 options I think
[02:57] <cmanns__> I just upgraded old lubuntu to 14.04
[02:57] <smart_developer> What do you mean that EXT4 allows your hard drive to be fully optimized? (sorry, I might have joined the conversation out of context, just now).
[02:57] <cmanns__> went flawless imho
[02:57] <TyrfingMjolnir> xangua: This is a customized install with certain tweaks
[02:58] <superkuh> I guess it depends on how many PPA and other customizations you have.
[02:58] <smart_developer> Is ext4 better than xfs ?
[02:58] <cmanns__> Ext4 is pretty fast some filesystems have different benefits.
[02:58] <expunge> smart_developer: different
[02:58] <cmanns__> I have more experience with FreeBSD filesystem and ext3
[02:59] <glaucio> hi
[02:59] <OerHeks> TyrfingMjolnir, what makes you think those tweaks survive upgrade 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04 ?
[02:59] <cmanns__>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[02:59] <cmanns__> I get that trying to enable DMA
[02:59] <litropy> expunge, how do I let it make a new one?
[02:59] <TyrfingMjolnir> OerHeks: Most of them are in /opt
[02:59] <expunge> litropy: usually it will on its own, try mv'ing your extant one
[02:59] <TyrfingMjolnir> And I will do an upgrade of what is not there
[03:00] <TyrfingMjolnir> or no longer works...
[03:00] <Bashing-om> litropy: Try: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old , sudo nvidia-xconfig . Now restart so that the Nvidia driver can take effect.
[03:00] <TyrfingMjolnir> mainly python stuff
[03:00] <expunge> oh yeah
[03:00] <expunge> maybe just need sudo
[03:00] <TyrfingMjolnir> Entire image is 1.2GB
[03:01] <litropy> Bashing-om, k done, restarting
[03:01] <Bashing-om> LittleFool: Fingers crossed .
[03:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> When will ubuntu change to mariaDB?
[03:02] <expunge> TyrfingMjolnir: sometime
[03:06] <OerHeks> TyrfingMjolnir, why? 5.6 works great http://www.zdnet.com/shuttleworth-says-ubuntu-is-sticking-with-mysql-7000026859/
[03:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> MySQL? Did anyone do development on MySQL since 2005?
[03:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> at least in postgre I can use JSON
[03:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> mariadb supposedly also has a lot of neat features
[03:07] <thurstylark> Anyone play with ds4drv?
[03:08] <OerHeks> TyrfingMjolnir, you can install mariadb as you want, but lamp will not use it standard.
[03:21] <TyrfingMjolnir> update-manage-kde is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist WTF?!?
[03:21] <TyrfingMjolnir> xxzzxxxxxx
[03:39] <masteryan> hmnn
[03:42] <wheatthin> yup.. if they aren't sleeping, they might all be on a union break in the "break room"
[03:42] <TyrfingMjolnir> When upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04: got the following message
[03:43] <TyrfingMjolnir> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux' .Please see man 5 apt.conf ynder APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[03:44] <wheatthin> TyrfingMjolnir, why not upgrade to 14.04?
[03:44] <TyrfingMjolnir> Can?
[03:44] <TyrfingMjolnir> Just change to trusty?
[03:44] <wheatthin> yup
[03:44] <TyrfingMjolnir> I thought I had to go via percise
[03:44] <wheatthin> give me a minute to find out for sure.
[03:46] <wheatthin> TyrfingMjolnir, it seems like you can upgrade straight to 14.04.1+
[03:47] <darklessness> test
[03:47] <RKyle> Is it possible to completely uninstall the desktop interface and replace it with gnome?
[03:48] <expunge> RKyle: yup
[03:48] <expunge> !notunity
[03:48] <darklessness> RKyle: yes
[03:48] <RKyle> Does everyone else have problems with Unity?
[03:48] <expunge> RKyle: hrmm?
[03:49] <RKyle> expunge, It just seems very buggy and is annoying.
[03:50] <expunge> it's pretty immature software
[03:50] <expunge> based largely on more immature software
[03:50] <expunge> and some other mature software that was poorly maintained =)
[03:50] <expunge> but it has its merits, and you don't have to use it =)
[03:50] <RKyle> I've been waiting on it to start responding for like 10 minutes now.
[03:51] <expunge> could be your graphics device isn't quite up to accerlating
[03:51] <expunge> accelerating*
[03:52] <RKyle> I was trying to install the gpus drivers when it just crapped out.
[03:52] <expunge> well drivers, those are useful =)
[03:52] <litropy> hi, all - I switched my graphics driver to nvidia proprietary, and the only resolution entry in Displays is 640 x 480. I ran sudo nvidia-xconfig, rebooted, and I have no change in resolution options. Now, when I run nvidia-xconfig, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8362452/
[03:53] <litropy> I did run nvidia-xconfig after reboot, and rebooted again, but still no dice.
[03:53] <expunge> litropy: pastebin the .conf
[03:53] <wombatidae> I have been running ubuntu 14.04 for a few weeks and today it locked up while I was watching a youtube vid, and when I restart now it won't load the OS
[03:53] <wombatidae> no command line nothing
[03:54] <wombatidae> I can run off live disc, and can see my HDD and files but cant launch or open anything from HDD
[03:54] <litropy> expunge, one moment
[03:54] <wombatidae> brand new HDD, fresh install
[03:54] <azurelysium> hello
[03:55] <expunge> wombatidae: so what do you see before "nothing"?
[03:55] <expunge> azurelysium: hi
[03:55] <wombatidae> it goes to a blinking cursor for a second, then jumps to a blank screen
[03:55] <litropy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8362491/
[03:55] <wombatidae> no error msg or anything
[03:55] <litropy> expunge,
[03:56] <expunge> wombatidae: can you use CTRL+ALT+F2 ?
[03:57] <expunge> litropy: grep EE /var/log/X*
[03:58] <litropy> expunge,
[03:58] <litropy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8362497/
[03:59] <litropy> sorry for the double lines - the res is disorienting.
[03:59] <expunge> litropy: would seem your driver is not properly installed
[03:59] <litropy> expunge, odd, I installed it using Additional Drivers
[04:00] <litropy> ... which, okay - UI-based stuff doesn't always work, even when it's a native system component.
[04:01] <litropy> I'm ... on 12.04, by the way.
[04:03] <zzxc> Hey, what are the requirements for running raid 5.
[04:04] <expunge> silliness
[04:04] <wafflejock> !raid
[04:06] <wafflejock> zzxc: this might be better since it's more up to date if you're down with video tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuhMQIpCP1A
[04:07] <zzxc> wafflejock: Hmmm alright cool. I'm going to bookmark this.
[04:07] <zzxc> But just to check raid 5 no longer requires a raid card?
[04:08] <expunge> never did
[04:08] <wafflejock> zzxc: well think software RAID has been around for a while
[04:08] <wafflejock> zzxc: but the hardware RAID solutions can be faster
[04:08] <Bash_Rules> whats the difference between sudo and su - ?
[04:08] <wafflejock> dunno though I just have an "X-RAID" NAS some voodoo
[04:08] <expunge> Bash_Rules: and su -, or su? =)
[04:09] <expunge> Bash_Rules: sudo is meant to be a way to give 'su' access to specific commands alone
[04:09] <expunge> ...except on Ubuntu, which ignores sudo's purpose =)
[04:09] <Bash_Rules> any... it seems that both sudo and su works on my mint machine, but not in a SL machine
[04:09] <expunge> Bash_Rules: SL?
[04:09] <Bash_Rules> scientific linux
[04:09] <Bash_Rules> its off of rh
[04:09] <expunge> rh?
[04:09] <expunge> j/k
[04:09] <Bash_Rules> red hat
[04:09] <expunge> try using words
[04:09] <Bash_Rules> lol
[04:09] <zzxc> expunge:  Yeah this is my first trip into raid5.
[04:09] <expunge> like I said, Ubuntu uses sudo in an odd way
[04:10] <Bash_Rules> i see
[04:10] <Bash_Rules> so its a ubuntu thing
[04:10] <expunge> mostly
[04:10] <zzxc> wafflejock: That would make sense. Having a raid controller would speed up some of the data checks..
[04:10] <Bash_Rules> sudo shouldnt be doing su stuff pretty much
[04:10] <Bash_Rules> ?
[04:10] <expunge> some distros are copying Ubuntu in this manner
[04:10] <expunge> Bash_Rules: sudo should not work for any command at all, historically =)
[04:10] <zzxc> Bash_Rules: No su and sudo both existed in debian.
[04:10] <expunge> only ones you explicitly, personally configure
[04:10] <Bash_Rules> hmm
[04:10] <Bash_Rules> weird
[04:10] <Bash_Rules> o well
[04:10] <zzxc> Bash_Rules: In debain sudo is more or less su root -c _____
[04:11] <wafflejock> well you can change that in the sudoers file though right expunge
[04:11] <wafflejock> ?
[04:11] <Bash_Rules> i see
[04:11] <expunge> I don't follow Red Hat, but since they focus on servers they're probably a bit behind regardless
[04:11] <Bash_Rules> not in red hat apparently
[04:11] <expunge> wafflejock: yes, you can change anything
[04:11] <Bash_Rules> if i sudo in red hat it wont even take my passwd
[04:11] <zzxc> Bash_Rules: I'm pretty sure that red hat is also a debain fork.
[04:11] <RKyle> !synaptic
[04:11] <expunge> zzxc: heh
[04:11] <expunge> it isn't, of course
[04:12] <Bash_Rules> i dunno about that
[04:12] <Bash_Rules> could be wrong though
[04:12] <expunge> yeah like I said
[04:12] <RKyle> Isn't Red Hat where Linux started?
[04:12] <expunge> the proper way to use sudo requires personally configuring it
[04:12] <wafflejock> http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/12.10/gldt1210.svg
[04:12] <expunge> RKyle: no, but it's a fairly old, fairly popular distro
[04:12] <wafflejock> not sure how accurate this is but pretty cool
[04:12] <zzxc> Bash_Rules: Actually I think expunge is right.
[04:12] <Bash_Rules> ill take a look at sudo more closely sometime
[04:13] <Bash_Rules> because pretty much SL uses yum
[04:13] <zzxc> wafflejock: Nice graphic wafflejock
[04:13] <Bash_Rules> while ubuntusoes uses apt get
[04:13] <wafflejock> yeah it's a cool one
[04:14] <RKyle> Will I break anything if I purge the software center and replace it with Synaptic?
[04:14] <wafflejock> Bash_Rules: yeah aptitude is part of the package manager stuff along with dpkg (debian package manager), think Yum was from slackware? can't remember
[04:15] <RKyle> Yum is in Fedora isn't it?
[04:15] <xangua> RKyle: or you can just install synaptic and leave software centre alone
[04:15] <Bash_Rules> i believe so
[04:15] <zzxc> Well Yum is used in fedora if I remeber correctly which is a spin off a red hat.
[04:15] <wafflejock> RKyle: yeah I would backup before trying that but should be okay
[04:15] <RKyle> Fresh install, not worth backing up. =p
[04:15] <wafflejock> RKyle: then pull the trigger :D and godspeed
[04:16] <expunge> fedora is the testing version of red hat
[04:16] <CEO-Defcon> #help
[04:16] <expunge> scientific linux is red hat
[04:16] <Bash_Rules> btw CenTOS is a pretty great red hat clone
[04:16] <expunge> yes, centos is also red hat
[04:16] <wafflejock> Bash_Rules: think it's just open source red hat
[04:16] <RKyle> Fedora looks nice in screen shots, I've only breifly used it myself.
[04:16] <cmanns__> How can I get older GCC?
[04:16] <expunge> sans cost (and support)
[04:17] <cmanns__> I am trying to use debian snapshots
[04:17] <Bash_Rules> yep
[04:17] <Bash_Rules> its red hat without support
[04:17] <expunge> RKyle: it looks like GNOME in screenshots =P
[04:17] <wafflejock> RKyle: think Fedora uses KDE no?
[04:17] <expunge> without paid support =)
[04:17] <Bash_Rules> yeah :PP
[04:17] <zzxc> wafflejock: It has a few different models I thnk.
[04:17] <expunge> although given how unpopular it is among people who don't habitually spend money...
[04:17] <zzxc> desktop envos*
[04:17] <Bash_Rules> and optimized updates
[04:17] <RKyle> I think it's an altered version of Gnome.
[04:17]  * expunge sighs
[04:17] <expunge> it's just GNOME, by default
[04:17] <expunge> not that it matters
[04:17] <expunge> shh =P
[04:18] <wafflejock> yeah just saw some screenshots, I'm using Ubuntu Gnome atm
[04:18] <wafflejock> I dig it
[04:18] <RKyle> I miss the old gnome with compiz fusion for poor performance.
[04:19] <RKyle> What distro the Gentoo come from?
[04:19] <wafflejock> RKyle: I think MATE is filling that gap
[04:19] <zzxc> wafflejock: How's the multimonitor support. That was part of the reason I switched over to xfce.
[04:19] <xangua> !ot
[04:19] <zzxc> RKyle: You can still use compiz, even with gnome.
[04:20] <wafflejock> zzxc: good I have some problem on all DEs with my chipset though where it gets messed up if the laptop monitor and two externals are all on, once I disable the laptop monitor though or have it shut the other two work fine
[04:20] <expunge> RKyle: gentoo is non-derivative
[04:20] <expunge> RKyle: though roughly inspired by debian and freebsd
[04:20] <RKyle> zzxc, It's not a functional as it used to be though is it?
[04:20] <expunge> mate? Is a literal copy of GNOME 2 =P
[04:21] <RKyle> expunge, I'm still trying to get into Gentoo, installation is still a pain for me.
[04:21] <zzxc> I mean if you use gnome no, but you can use xfce, or mate, or lsomething or another, or several other window managers.
[04:21] <xangua> !ot | expunge  RKyle
[04:21] <expunge> the only danger is that they won't have enough devs to maintain it all
[04:21] <expunge> RKyle: it's involved, by comparison =)
[04:21] <xcasex> you guys havent seen chipset issues until you've used a laptop with via chips.
[04:21] <expunge> way chips
[04:22] <zzxc> And its pretty much the same emerald is more unstable. but I used it for a while on an old machine running the privous LTS.
[04:22] <RKyle> I remember Gutsy Gibbon, my first Linux OS.
[04:22] <zzxc> RKyle: Actually unless its changed unity is using a window manager based off of compiz I think.
[04:23] <expunge> emerald is still compiz =)
[04:23] <zzxc> expunge: well sort off, you need compiz to run emerald but you no longer need emerald for compiz I'm pretty sure.
[04:24] <expunge> zzxc: indeed
[04:24] <RKyle> zzxc, No wonder Unity seems broken to me. =p
[04:24] <expunge> oof, 9 thirty
[04:25] <zzxc> expunge west coast?
[04:25] <Edijus> Hello. Could someone tell me if you can wget stuff from google drive, e.g. from here https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2d0UoGDxVqTQjRJX3Z1ZnFhUUE&usp=sharing
[04:27] <captine> hi all.  could you please direct me to where I can get some help with bzr?  I am not very technical but am wanting to try use it for version control of rules within a IBM Cognos TM1 budgeting tool implementation
[04:28] <zzxc> Edijus: I can't think of anything that would be easy. There is a google drive ppa that you can install though.
[04:28] <captine> I just have some questions that I cannot seem to get answers to in the manual
[04:29] <thurstylark> Is there a group for Bluetooth admins?
[04:30] <cmanns__> Any tips for older gcc guys?
[04:31] <zzxc> Alright, my girlfriend has passed out litterally on me. I think its time I signed off and went to bed.
[04:32] <zzxc> Cross you fingers that I can convince her to not sleep on the couch, and not swing at me when I try to move her. Night guys.
[04:32] <thurstylark> zzxc: Hilarious and cute.
[04:35] <Sachiru> Query: Is ntopng paid, or free, and does it work with collectors other than nprobe?
[04:43] <urielvigilant> ;My english is not soo has ai whisheD"! I've been in the recent past to speak with a psychic who says that Ubuntu or "# Linux" does not quite understand what the spirit that knows the future and the past said that someone buying via the "Internet" forever a "day" and the "current Justice" #Google will become a brand of access to pcs because the new generation of internet to come.
[04:43] <urielvigilant> That day will be the end for us! And the beginning of a new era of slavery for them the future generation "They will just feel that are evolving and will accept like lambs"; # Please record and reproduce forever this "prediction of a psychic" # would be ""
[04:43] <malkauns_> lol
[04:44] <urielvigilant> Yes
[04:44] <urielvigilant> Ûbuntu and Linux as we know is compromised
[04:44] <urielvigilant> "
[04:45] <urielvigilant> The Gold in Wrong hands will predicted the future has my friend " Whish#" as talend said. Linux will be buy from someone in Russia "
[04:45] <urielvigilant> ..---in a close future " :0(
[04:51] <urielvigilant> In a close future, i will be a old man, with 60 or more, with no "Chance" to build my website or using my " Free Linux" as we know it, leggaly,. in Europe or USA " you will see it ,. as the Whishper said "
[04:52] <cmanns__> Oh man
[04:52] <cmanns__> I messed up my lubuntu lol
[04:52] <ahinsaksa> hi i have an issue with connecting to w-fi network
[04:52] <ahinsaksa> im using ubuntu 13.04
[04:52] <ahinsaksa> sorry 13.10
[04:53] <xangua> ahinsaksa: upgrade to a supported release
[04:55] <ahinsaksa> it was working fine with other wireless networks
[04:55] <ahinsaksa> this is only to a particular proxy server
[04:55] <narbeh> This is what I get every 3 secs on my console. Debian 7.3 https://www.anonimg.com/img/163ec1e930d29df2667bb1857bd812f9.jpg
[04:56] <mao1> hi, is there any good resource about cloud compute
[04:56] <narbeh> mao1: search about it.   Some people are drawn to it like idiots to a bug zapper.
[05:11] <darkelfjuggalo> Not a question I want to ask; Does anyone know a Ubuntu Compatible software that will make a bootable Windows 7 Iso? my girlfriend needs itunes to reset her Ipad but wine doesn't support USB and all we have on a computer at the moment is ubuntu
[05:12] <urielvigilant> lolol
[05:12] <Ben64> darkelfjuggalo: try asking in ##windows
[05:12] <urielvigilant> whtafck
[05:12] <darkelfjuggalo> i'll try...
[05:13] <Flannel> urielvigilant: Please help keep this channel on-topic (Ubuntu technical support), thanks!
[05:23] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[05:23] <fancyfetus> Is there any easy way to jump from ubuntu to ubuntuGNOME?
[05:24] <fancyfetus> or do i have to uninstall ubuntu and then install ubuntuGNOME?
[05:26] <cmanns__> fancyfetus I think you just install gnome
[05:26] <fancyfetus> cmanns__ it's a whole nother operating system, man
[05:26] <damian_> pretty cool to run ssh through android on to my desktop using connetbot app
[05:26] <Ben64> cmanns__: it isn't actually
[05:27] <cmanns__> Ah theres a ubuntuGNOME, fork?
[05:27] <cmanns__> Sorry
[05:27] <Ben64> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop | fancyfetus
[05:27] <cmanns__> I went from ubuntu to Xubuntu before years ago so I thought it was easy
[05:27] <Seveas> fancyfetus: no, it's not. Just install gnome, log out and choose gnome when loggging back in.
[05:27] <fancyfetus> Ben64, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage
[05:28] <Ben64> what are you trying to show me there
[05:28] <fancyfetus> I was talking to guy in here earlier who were telling me that ubuntu gnome will be "more vanilla" and more stable over ubuntu with gnome installed.
[05:29] <fancyfetus> guys*
[05:29] <Ben64> ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu-gnome are all the same thing
[05:29] <Ben64> just different frontends, you can choose one or have a bunch going with no ill effects
[05:29] <cmanns__> <3 xubuntu
[05:29] <cmanns__> Also lubuntu is nice
[05:29] <fancyfetus> Ben64, what is the onestop way of getting a gnome 3 frontend, then?
[05:30] <narbeh> Can anyone help me with this problem? https://www.anonimg.com/img/163ec1e930d29df2667bb1857bd812f9.jpg
[05:30] <fancyfetus> ubuntu-gnome-desktop?
[05:30] <Ben64> fancyfetus: installing that will give you the full ubuntu-gnome desktop, if thats what you want
[05:30] <Ben64> may include other applications
[05:30] <fancyfetus> Ben64, yes sir
[05:31] <fancyfetus> I dun busted my previous ubuntu installation so I'll have to reinstall that first.
[05:32] <squinty> narbeh:  can you actually connect to that site?  even the main site doesn't load here
[05:33] <narbeh> squinty: Thank you for the feed back. let me upload to another hosting site
[05:33] <fancyfetus> Ben64, obviously this place is a little biased... but what do you think of fedora?
[05:33] <fancyfetus> It comes packaged with gnome 3
[05:34] <fancyfetus> think it's a better option for me?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> is there a GUI for changing color of boot text?
[05:36] <narbeh> squinty: http://i1.someimage.com/JKazdLO.jpg
[05:36] <narbeh> Can anyone help me with this problem? http://i1.someimage.com/JKazdLO.jpg
[05:38] <squinty> lotuspsychje:  https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> squinty: will that be able to change font color with quiet splash off?
[05:48] <thurstylark> is there a way to pass a cli command to make compiz change desktops or other actions?
[05:54] <damccull> if i type a command into bash to figure out all the syntax i want, but then i want to save that into a .sh file...is there a way other than copy/paste? cat 'string with / and spaces' > file.sh doesn't work
[05:54] <wafflejock> thurstylark: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46613/is-there-a-command-for-the-workspace-switcher
[05:56] <wafflejock> damccull: you can check your .bash_history for commands you've run not sure about an easy way to pull those out into a file from the command line though
[05:56] <thurstylark> wafflejock: That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
[05:56] <wafflejock> thurstylark: np
[05:56] <damccull> oh, i wonder if echo will do it
[05:57] <damccull> heh. yes. yes it will.
[05:57] <damccull> echo "string" > file
[05:57] <wafflejock> ah right
[05:57] <damccull> forgot about echo
[05:57] <wafflejock> used that for some config stuff before
[05:57] <wafflejock>  can use >> to append to a file too if you want to build up some sequence of commands in a script
[05:57] <thurstylark> or a log file...
[05:58] <damccull> yep nice
[05:58] <thurstylark> (not the best log file, but...)
[05:59] <brendan__> .server irc.rizon.net
[06:13] <khaos> hi, i have installed lm sensors on my i7 laptop and the output on the terminal shows 2 cores. (System monitor shows 4). What I am doing wrong? thanks
[06:16] <subhojit777> I have created a vhost in amazon ec2 instance (Ubuntu). I want to access the the vhost by entering into localhost's hosts file (/etc/hosts). I do not understand what to put in the ip address. For example, for local vhosts I put <IP_ADDRESS>. What to put for ec2 instance
[06:17] <dziegler> Hi, i need an wrapper script for an PHP script in bash. How can i pass all arguments i give my wrapper to my php shell? Thats my code: http://pastebin.com/WHnM18Hy
[06:17] <khaos> hi, i have installed lm sensors on my i7 laptop and the output on the terminal shows 2 cores. (System monitor shows 4). What I am doing wrong? thanks
[06:18] <subhojit777> I have tried [ec2-xx-xxx-xx-xxx.us-west-x.compute.amazonaws.com	some.vhost.com] but it si not working
[06:20] <somsip> subhojit777: put the ec2 server's public ip
[06:21] <subhojit777> somsip, any other solution apart from this
[06:21] <somsip> subhojit777: yes, you can do it wrong
[06:21] <subhojit777> somsip, sorry, what wrong?
[06:22] <somsip> subhojit777: if you want to add an entry to /etc/hosts you would use the public IP and some name as an identifier. If you do it a different way, it wont work
[06:22] <subhojit777> somsip, I see..
[06:25] <nydel> i've accidentally messed up my glibc library and can't get it back installed.. anyone know how to deal with this?
[06:37] <khaos> hi, i have installed lm sensors on my i7 laptop and the output on the terminal shows 2 cores. (System monitor shows 4). What I am doing wrong? thanks
[06:43] <minimec> khaos: Did you configure it? 'sudo sensors-detect'
[06:46] <karab_44> Hi
[06:47] <rwp> khaos, Do you have a hyperthreaded cpu?  If so then you actually have 2-cores with 2-threads per core.
[06:48] <karab_44> I started to play with my graphic cards and then I lost my screen
[06:49] <karab_44> I simply changed primary card from nvidia to Intel and switched to novuea in the system
[06:50] <karab_44> And now I can't reverse it
[06:50] <karab_44> Screen is black
[06:51] <TJ-> karab_44: "simply" is not a description of what you did :)
[06:52] <karab_44> Tj I thought I wrote that I did it in bios
[06:52] <karab_44> Sorry
[06:52] <cfhowlett> karab_44, if you changed it in bios, change it back.
[06:52] <karab_44> ?
[06:53] <TJ-> karab_44: my point was, changing a fundamental part of the hardware is never 'simple' :)
[06:53] <karab_44> No cfhowlett it doesn't work
[06:53] <nevermoreraven> what ever happened to gobuntu?
[06:53] <nevermoreraven> why can't we have a completely 100% free ubuntu like gobuntu again?
[06:53] <karab_44> Tj I just want to restore my previous settings
[06:53] <cfhowlett> !ot|nevermoreraven,
[06:54] <karab_44> I want nvidia back
[06:54] <TJ-> karab_44: Are the GPUs independent or linked (Optimus aka Bumblebee) ?
[06:54] <cfhowlett> nevermoreraven, FSF has a couple of "free" OS recommendations.
[06:54] <karab_44> No just separate card
[06:55] <karab_44> Second is on CPU, Intel HD 3000
[06:56] <hak> Hello I would like to ask, when you open Software & Updates > Additional Drivers and change one will it download or install from local storage.
[06:56] <TJ-> karab_44: OK, so you're set the Nvidia as primary, which may hav resulted in a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" being generated, which may now be causing issues. Check that first, and rename/remove it, if necessary
[06:57] <karab_44> Tj OK!
[06:58] <minimec> hak: Not the first time. Afterwards the needed packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives. So the second time, no download is needed IMHO.
[07:00] <apickle> So I have a question.
[07:00] <apickle> At 1:00 AM.
[07:00] <karab_44> Tj I need to change back to nvidia first
[07:00] <hak> minimec: I was using X.Org X driver but changed to Nvidia one. Now I am on very slow connection and would like to change back to X.Org but it takes somewhat long time.
[07:01] <apickle> YO YO YO
[07:01] <karab_44> There is conf with .failsafe extension and second one with yesterday s date
[07:02] <apickle> Never mind.
[07:03] <apickle> How do I switch between running server applications in the command line with Ubuntu Server?
[07:03] <apickle> (14.04 LTS?)
[07:04] <nevermoreraven> yo fosho
[07:04] <nevermoreraven> keep it real
[07:04] <minimec> hak: The nvidia opensource driver should be installed per default. It's the 'xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-trusty' package, or whatever ubuntu version you use. maybe try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-trusty' or so...
[07:04] <apickle> Like, say I want to host a Minecraft server, but I also want to host OpenVPN and Mumble.  How do I switch between being able to input commands for each application?
[07:04] <cynicallemon> apickle: you could open a tmux or screen session
[07:05] <apickle> Hmm.
[07:05] <apickle> I've heard about Screen, I was wondering if there was a way to do it without relying on third party applications.
[07:06] <TJ-> karab_44: Booting the system in Recovery mode should cause the screen to remain in text mode so you can work at the console
[07:06] <minimec> hak: Also... You might have to 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-disabled.conf'. That alone should give you the nouveau driver back after reboot.
[07:07] <cynicallemon> apickle: theres always your virtual consoles if you are in front of the server or you could bg & fg processes too
[07:08] <karab_44> Tj read my msg from 0901
[07:08] <karab_44> There are two files
[07:08] <cynicallemon> apickle: but screen or tmux is by far the best way
[07:09] <karab_44> And yes I tried to do something in recovery last night but no success
[07:10] <hak> minimec: thank you will report after reboot :)
[07:11] <karab_44> I just want to have my previous configuration, before I set to the neuvoa driver
[07:13] <TJ-> karab_44: Try adding "text" to the Recovery mode's kernel command-line ("linux ...") entry which will avoid graphics mode.
[07:14] <karab_44> Tj its OK I can enter text mode
[07:14] <karab_44> I see two files config.failsafe and config.yesterdaydate
[07:15] <TJ-> karab_44: OK, so you can do a full purge of the nvidia driver packages, and ensure any blacklists it left behind in "/etc/modprobe.d/*" are also removed - those would prevent the nouveau module being loaded
[07:16] <karab_44> OK!
[07:18] <nydel> anyone know how to fix a broken libc/glibc? i'm afraid my system's going to go down, i can't call anything, not apt-get, not synaptic, not even ls -- everything is dependent on me getting glibc2.17
[07:18] <rdbell> I changed my userid and groupid and now I can't log in. Only guest session is displayed at the login screen. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:19] <guite> rdbell: ctrl+f1, then try to log here first :)
[07:19] <rdbell> guite that works fine
[07:19] <nydel> rdbell: can you open a tty (c-m-f6) and log in as yourself then change it back
[07:19] <rdbell> nydel I don't want to change it back if i don't have to.
[07:20] <nydel> you will want to do things like change group id through ubuntu system management gui, else there are lots of problems
[07:20] <rdbell> I see.
[07:20] <nydel> the userid especially
[07:20] <rdbell> Didn't realize there was a GUI for that.
[07:21] <nydel> anyone know anything about libc/glibc? am i just kind of f'cked here?
[07:22] <Tex_Nick> rdbell: as the doctor said ... if it hurts ... don't do that again ;))) just kidding sir
[07:22] <rdbell> Lol
[07:22] <rdbell> Good advice.
[07:23] <Tex_Nick> ;)
[07:24] <damian__> need help someone
[07:27] <Tex_Nick> damian__: state your problem ... providing as many details as you can ... someone might be able to help you
[07:29] <jozefk> I can't see the folder and files on external HDD. exFAT file system. only one partition. I copied the files on one PC with win8.1 and I can see them on that same PC but not on another one. Regardless of OS. Win8.1 or Linux, I can't see them in both cases
[07:29] <jozefk> what could be the reason?
[07:32] <karab_44> Tj I purged nvidia drivers, I'm in the system on Intel card
[07:41] <karab_44> Tj I go to settings and change to nvidia but it jumps back to nvoeaea
[07:42] <jozefk> kara you will never fix those problems. linux is not for human beings :)
[07:42] <karab_44> I am on physical nvidia card now
[07:42] <karab_44> Jozef wszystko pod kontrola ;)
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !ask | damian,
[07:44] <jozefk> kara I speak serbian ;) almost the same as polish but...
[07:45] <karab_44> Everything is under control jozef ;)
[07:45] <tarelerulz> I have never heard of it ,but do any movie files support meta tags which would let you sort your movies like you do mp3?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> tarelerulz, video files can have meta ... depends what you want to edit.  avconv/ffmpeg are the tools I use.
[07:46] <xor-freenet> the german ubuntu archive server provides bad package signatures for 14.04 again :(
[07:48] <tarelerulz> Is there a standard meta tags any movie format would use so you could sort them?  That is my real questions.  I know itunes has such ,but I know of nothing else
[07:48] <karab_44> Jozef I like Ubuntu. It causes problems from time to time but it's most because of me ;)
[07:48] <geirha> xor-freenet: #ubuntu-de might know who to poke to get it fixed
[07:48] <cfhowlett> tarelerulz, never heard of same.
[07:49] <xor-freenet> geirha: thanks
[07:49] <tarelerulz> MKV  has meta tags ,but it not well support feature.
[07:49] <cfhowlett> tarelerulz, easy enough to add meta for title/subject/author/creation date ... can't think of what else you might want.
[07:50] <tarelerulz> Well, adding them is fine ,but unless other medai player / app use the format it would not matter for sorting them like you do songs.
[07:50] <karab_44> Jozefk but the truth is yeah if you mess up, it's hard to fix it
[07:51] <jozefk> linux is good for some things. not for everything
[07:51] <AlexC_> I've got an issue whereby launching Skype through the dash will not log me in, however if I run it from command line it will. Any thoughts?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> tarelerulz, true.  so ... you're asking the wrong questions????
[07:52] <tarelerulz> When I have looked for meta tags for movie all I find is why to  put meta information into websites so people can find the video .
[07:53] <cfhowlett> tarelerulz, choose the metas you want to use and inject them with ffmpeg/avconv
[08:00] <ubuntu980> I have / mounted at /dev/sda1 , then I added another harddrive, I mount /var at /dev/sdb1, my question is will the data of /var directory on /dev/sda1 be destroyed?
[08:01] <ubuntu980> ??QUESTION?? I have / mounted at /dev/sda1 , then I added another harddrive, I mount /var at /dev/sdb1, my question is will the data of /var directory on /dev/sda1 be destroyed?
[08:05] <somsip> ubuntu980: no. It will remain there but not be written to and cannot be read if another mount point is 'over' it
[08:06] <ubuntu980> somsip: I don't understand this part: cannot be read if another mount point is 'over' it
[08:06] <Siegel-> hi. i have just upgraded to version 14. i had problems with updates before. there is an error that keeps occuring which wont enable me to install all updates. how do i solve this
[08:06] <ubuntu980> what do you mean by "another mount point is 'over' it"
[08:07] <somsip> ubuntu980: you're mounting /dev/sdb1 on the same mountpoint.
[08:08] <ubuntu980> so the data remains there and no one can access it?
[08:08] <somsip> ubuntu980: yes
[08:08] <ubuntu980> what is the right way to move a directory to another partition?
[08:09] <somsip> ubuntu980: you want to move the existing /var contents to sdb1?
[08:09] <ubuntu980> yes
[08:09] <kanhiay> hi all, i  wrote few pages in HIndi on MIcrosoft office 13 and save it as ODT. They are opening properly in WIndows but in Libreoffice instead of Hindi fonts, English characters are appearing
[08:09] <kanhiay> how to solve that issue, I am using UBUNTU 14.04
[08:09] <kanhiay> I ALSO changed keyboard layout
[08:10] <kanhiay> Hindi, (bOLNAGRI, KAGAPA, WX) , they let me able to type but
[08:10] <kanhiay> rest of document, which were in HIndi , what to do
[08:10] <somsip> ubuntu980: mount it somewhere else and copy it. Take care with permissions. Then remount it where you want it to go. Not sure how easy this is with var as the running system may look for files that aren't in /var if you move it, but copying should be safe. You might be able to mv it, then reboot and it could be fine
[08:11] <kanhiay> I also installed ibus-m17n
[08:11] <kanhiay> still don't know what to do for these documents.
[08:11] <kanhiay> ANY HELP
[08:12] <Siegel-> hi. i just got diconnected. i have a problem with the newest version of ubuntu. after having upgraded, i cant seem to access windows or applications i minimize (i use gnome interface). they used to appear on the bottom bar and now they just disappear.
[08:12] <Siegel-> how can i access them
[08:12] <kanhiay> i also tried to install language pack, I am on mobile internet and it started to download, LIbre office, base, calc, draw, core etc etc. It is charging too much.
[08:12] <kanhiay> anyhelp
[08:13] <ubuntu980> somsip: thanks, maybe I should just change this directory /var/www/html, it's getting large
[08:13] <somsip> ubuntu980: that would be safe to move while the system was running
[08:13] <bubbasaures> kanhiay, do you have tty-mscorefonts-installer  installed?
[08:14] <karab_44> Tj I am close to fix it but still no cigar
[08:21] <theos> hi
[08:22] <theos> why do my volume hotkeys input 0's? can i stop it?
[08:22] <helmut_> hi
[08:22] <ObrienDave> which hotkeys have you assigned to volume control?
[08:22] <Fuchs> theos: check with xev  what even they produce, feel free to change it with xmodmap
[08:23] <theos> the hotkeys work fine for controlling volume but they input zeros at the same time
[08:23] <Fuchs> I assume they produce both an acpi event or are hardwired to the volume, at the same time they produce a key event though. As said, can be checked with xev and fixed with xmodmap
[08:26] <theos> xev says XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (30) "0". is this what the 0 in the input comes from?
[08:30] <nonuby> Ive install xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server 14.04 but Im missing /etc/init.d/network-manager even though network-manager package is installed
[08:33] <cra1g321> hey i can't get the onboard ethernet working with 14.04, the onboard ethernet is Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
[08:34] <cra1g321> installed the linux-firmware-nonfree package and b43 firmware packages but no luck :/
[08:34] <TJ-> nonuby: network-manager uses an Upstart job config, not SysV
[08:35] <ObrienDave> !broadcom | cra1g321
[08:36] <ExeciN> I installed gnome and every time ubuntu-server boots, gnome goes in a resolution of 800x600. How do I permanently change the resolution?
[08:40] <samthewildone> !usb
[08:40] <samthewildone> !formatusb
[08:40] <samthewildone> !format
[08:40] <samthewildone> !GParted
[08:42] <cra1g321> ObrienDave i've already looked at that wiki
[08:42] <ObrienDave> cra1g321, forgot that's for wifi.
[08:44] <ignerious> please help me to compile this code http://pastebin.com/bCL6ZZfe in ubuntu
[08:44] <samthewildone> How do I launch the disk utility from command line?
[08:45] <samthewildone> ignerious, "g++ -Wall nameofprogram.cpp/c -o nameofprogram"
[08:46] <samthewildone> though the code has errors
[08:46] <ignerious> what does "-Wall" do?
[08:46] <samthewildone> prints out any errors
[08:46] <samthewildone> or Warnings
[08:47] <ignerious> samthewildone: Struct.cpp: In function ‘int main()’:
[08:47] <ignerious> Struct.cpp:17:6: error: invalid conversion from ‘const char*’ to ‘char’ [-fpermissive]
[08:47] <ignerious>   s.nm="Ajay";
[08:47] <ignerious>       ^
[08:47] <samthewildone> ignerious, well fix it
[08:48] <samthewildone> ur using a string for char man
[08:48] <samthewildone> char = single character
[08:48] <samthewildone> your using 4 chars in a char variable
[08:49] <ignerious> so how should i fix it
[08:49] <ignerious> please tell the code
[08:49] <samthewildone> ignerious,
[08:49] <samthewildone> ignerious, http://pastebin.com/68R1RVad
[08:50] <samthewildone> ignerious, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <Ben64> this isn't a programming channel, please find the appropriate channel for this topic
[08:50] <samthewildone> Ben64, if you let me finish...
[08:50] <somsip> lol...
[08:50]  * samthewildone storms out the room and has a cig
[08:50] <Ben64> samthewildone: i was already typing, wasn't going to stop :)
[08:51] <ObrienDave> don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya ;P
[08:52] <TJ-> I preferred the programming lesson ;p
[08:52] <samthewildone> ObrienDave, u made BRO ?
[08:53] <samthewildone> *mad
[08:54] <somsip> samthewildone: worse. goad. ever
[08:54] <Sachiru> Query: What would you guys recommend as a DNS and WINS server for Ubuntu that is a) lightweight, b) intended for forwarding/caching only, and c) fast?
[08:55] <theos> xev shows that 2 keycodes are bound together. keycode 19 and keycode 122/123. how do i remove keycode 19?
[08:58] <ExeciN> I installed ubuntu-server-gnome and every time ubuntu-server boots, gnome goes in a resolution of 800x600. How do I permanently change the resolution?
[09:01] <shinigami69> hey guys, I have ubuntu 14.04 LTS installed. Can anyone tell me if I can upgrade to 14.04.1 from within ubuntu?
[09:01] <ObrienDave> shinigami69, yes, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:02] <ObrienDave> shinigami69, out put of 'cat /etc/issue' please
[09:02] <shinigami69> Thanks ObrienDave
[09:03] <shinigami69> issue?
[09:03] <ObrienDave> shinigami69, will tell you if you already have it
[09:03] <ObrienDave> cat /etc/issue
[09:03] <ObrienDave> in terminal
[09:03] <shinigami69> ow, ok thanks.
[09:03] <geirha> or lsb_release -rs
[09:04] <geirha> err, -ds
[09:04] <ObrienDave> cat /etc/issue gives me Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[09:06] <theme2> hi
[09:06] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[09:07] <theme2> Can anybody troubleshoot an internet problem for me?
[09:07] <ObrienDave> theme2, depends on the problem
[09:07] <minimec> theme2: Noet 'for' you, but 'with' you ;)
[09:07] <theme2> My computer has a very unreliable internet connection
[09:08] <ObrienDave> couldn't possibly be your ISP, could it?
[09:08] <theme2> It has dual boot, and the internet in windows is very fast
[09:08] <_-Tom-Tom-_> wrong driver
[09:08] <minimec> theme2: Are you connected through wireless 'n' network?
[09:08] <theme2> It's wifi
[09:09] <shinigami69> ObrienDave, it worked, I already have 14.04.1. Thanks
[09:09] <ObrienDave> shinigami69, cool :)
[09:09] <theme2> It took me quite some time to connect to the internet via wifi in the first place
[09:09] <ObrienDave> theme2, ok, wifi a,b,g,ab,n?
[09:10] <theme2> ObrienDave: Where do I get that info?
[09:11] <ObrienDave> you would have to look on your routers built in webpage
[09:11] <theme2> It says it is "802.11 WiFi (wlan1)"
[09:11] <theme2> ObrienDave: where?
[09:12] <ObrienDave> how would i know that? it's your router
[09:12] <ObrienDave> look
[09:12] <theme2> oh right
[09:13]  * theme2 tries to figure out his router webpage
[09:13] <theme2> I messed around and found a page with the big title: "Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page"
[09:13] <theme2> probably not that
[09:14] <_-Tom-Tom-_> @theme2: Its the same address as the used gateway
[09:14] <_-Tom-Tom-_> normally
[09:14] <minimec> theme2: I guess you are connected via wireless 'n', if you are using some recent router/wifi device. So the 'n' network is fast, but less stable than wireless 'g'. My idea would bee to either change the router to 'force' wireless g connections, or set your wifi modem driver to force wireless 'g'.
[09:16] <ObrienDave> theme2, what is your current address to the router? 192.168.x.x?
[09:16] <theme2> I just found my router page
[09:16] <ObrienDave> cool
[09:17] <theme2> I recall changing its password quite some time ago
[09:17] <theme2> now what exactly is that password -_-
[09:18] <ObrienDave> theme2, you can press the reset button and it will probably change to admin admin
[09:18] <ObrienDave> user 'admin' password 'admin'
[09:19] <akaWolf> hello! does everybody use a x11vnc?
[09:21] <TJ-> theme2: Based on my experience, especially as you say Windows WiFi is fast, I'd guess there's a driver issue on Linux. So, first find out what the actual device is. This should isolate that info:  "lspci -nnk -s $(lspci -nn | grep 0280 | awk '{print $1}') "
[09:22] <theme2> Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4331] (rev 02)
[09:22] <theme2> Subsystem: Apple Inc. AirPort Extreme [106b:00ef]
[09:22] <theme2> Kernel driver in use: wl
[09:22] <theme2> btw my system is triple boot
[09:24] <TJ-> theme2: Now check for any reported errors, looking at the last line "Tx excessive retries .... Invalid misc ... Missed beacon..." using "iwconfig wlan1"
[09:24] <ObrienDave> !broadcom | theme2
[09:25] <theme2> TJ-: nothing showed up
[09:25] <theme2> ubottu: heh... how did I manage not to find that page
[09:25] <theme2> whoops
[09:25] <ObrienDave> lol
[09:25] <theme2> ObrienDave: heh... how did I manage not to find that page
[09:25] <Rory> intelligence is relative
[09:25] <theme2> Now that's better
[09:25] <TJ-> theme2: OK ... if it has networking, can you do "pastebinit < <(tail -n 2000 /var/log/kern.log)" ?
[09:26] <theme2> I spent so much time trying to make wifi even work in the first place
[09:26] <shinigami69> I get this warning everytime ubuntu boots"Support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0x18 disabled by module param allhwsupport=0.Try b43.allhwsupport=1". How can i fix it?
[09:28] <TJ-> theme2: According to this "grep -rni '14e4.*4331' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules*" the open-source module would be "bcma"; did you try that one before opting for the Broadcom proprietary "wl" driver?
[09:28] <xor-freenet> i have two machines, both on kubuntu 14.04 amd64, one on the german package server, one on the central one. both have the same version of openjdk-7-jre installed according to aptitude (7u65-2.5.1-4ubuntu1~<IP_ADDRESS>). both show an update to 7u65-2.5.2-3~14.04. however, the one with the german server shows it as security update, while the central server shows it as regular update. why?
[09:28] <TJ-> shinigami69: Is that option set on the kernel command-line ("cat /proc/cmdline") ?
[09:28] <theme2> TJ-: last line of that kern.log file: **snip** kernel: [ 8824.396225] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_tx_power : error (-1)
[09:28] <theme2> looks suspicious
[09:29] <xor-freenet> this was preceded by many "BADSIG" failures during package list update on the german server, which made me switch one machine to the central server. so it is scary that they now even show different updates.
[09:29] <TJ-> theme2: Yes, but there may be others - if you can pastebinit that'd help me
[09:30] <theme2> Result: Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
[09:30] <theme2> lol
[09:31] <shinigami69> TJ-, I'm not sure by what you mean I'm pretty new to Linux, sorry,  but this is what I get when I run that command on the terminal "BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic root=UUID=1e25ea13-3aba-4423-ae5a-b7db3e70195f ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[09:31] <shinigami69> "
[09:31] <TJ-> theme2: typical... I deduce that PC has networking problems :)
[09:31] <xor-freenet> (/etc/apt/sources.list: "central server" = http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ;  "german server" = http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/)
[09:31] <ObrienDave> xor-freenet, try a different mirror, or use the same mirror on both
[09:32] <theme2> I'm redirecting that tail to a file and manually pastebinning it
[09:32] <bstarek> hello all
[09:32] <TJ-> shinigami69: OK, the message suggested "b43.allhwsupport=0" was set manually, but it seems it is either set via options, or is the default. Let's check options now: "grep allhwsupport /etc/modprobe.d/*"
[09:32] <ObrienDave> theme2, install pastebinit. it will give you a URL for us
[09:32] <xor-freenet> ObrienDave: i don't want just the symptoms to go away, i want to find out why your servers ship different versions of the same package while claiming that it is the same version. this sounds like you're hacked, especially given that the german server spews loads of bad gnupg signatures
[09:33] <theme2> manually pasting...
[09:33] <theme2> ObrienDave: already installed
[09:33] <theme2> Result: the web page is not available D:
[09:33] <xor-freenet> ObrienDave: i also work in a project which is suspected to be an interesting target for NSA, so i cannot ignore such stuff :|
[09:34] <theme2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8363902/
[09:34] <TJ-> xor-freenet: which .de mirror are you hitting, some don't stay up to date
[09:34]  * ObrienDave folds a foil hat for xor-freenet
[09:34] <theme2> there you are
[09:34] <theme2> I mean, here it is
[09:35] <xor-freenet> ObrienDave: assuming that NSA targets developers of internet anonymization software is not tinfoil hat level paranoia.
[09:35] <theme2> I think I see some hexdumps there
[09:35] <xor-freenet> TJ-: how can i find out?
[09:35] <khaos> i would like to ask why in the additional drivers section it shows that I am using the amd xorg open source driver and in the  lspci -v | grep -i vga it shows that I am using the i7 intergrated... is that normal ? :P
[09:36] <theme2> At the bottom of the paste has some strange erors
[09:36] <theme2> s/erors/errors
[09:36] <shinigami69> TJ- nothing happens when with "grep allhwsupport /etc/modprobe.d/*"
[09:37] <theme2> TJ-: what is happening with my router/modem/whatever?
[09:38] <TJ-> theme2: OK, power-management is the likely culprit - try "sudo iwconfig wlan1 power off"
[09:38] <theme2> TJ-: does that mean turning of the adapter or something
[09:39] <theme2> off
[09:39] <TJ-> theme2: Give it a hard test, see if that improves things.
[09:39] <theme2> typing iwconfig already says that power management is off
[09:39] <theme2> doing it any way
[09:40] <theme2> 2 log entries appear in the log
[09:40] <theme2> Sep 17 16:39:37 theemathas-ubuntu kernel: [ 9728.973943] ERROR @wl_dev_intvar_get : error (-1)
[09:40] <theme2> Sep 17 16:39:37 theemathas-ubuntu kernel: [ 9728.973950] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_tx_power : error (-1)
[09:40] <theme2> wait a sec, it appears when I type iwconfig
[09:42] <theme2> what exactly is wrong with my internet
[09:43] <TJ-> theme2: OK, so the driver doesn't respond to power interrogation requests
[09:43] <shinigami69> TJ- nothing happens when with "grep allhwsupport /etc/modprobe.d/*"
[09:43] <theme2> TJ-: interrogation?
[09:44] <theme2> My driver isn't a criminal
[09:44] <TJ-> shinigami69: OK, so it must be the default setting in the module. So, the recommended setting needs to be added
[09:45] <theme2> TJ-: erm... good luck multitasking -_-"
[09:45] <TJ-> theme2: 'iwconfig' interrogates the driver to discover what settings it has... the proprietary driver apparently doesn't want to play nicely when it comes to the power management settings
[09:45] <shinigami69> TJ- , ok so how do we change the settings?
[09:47] <k1l> theme2: Try removing the dkms-broadcom-wl-6 package and installing the dkms-broadcom-wl-legacy-5 package then reboot
[09:47] <TJ-> shinigami69:  " echo "options b43 allhwsupport=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/b43.conf "
[09:48] <k1l> theme2: wait. no such packages on ubuntu
[09:48] <TJ-> k1l: those are RPM packages :D
[09:48] <shinigami69> TJ- done, I'll reboot my system now, thanks TJ-.
[09:48] <theme2> Erm... RPM?
[09:49] <theme2> nvm
[09:49] <theme2> One more line appeared in my log: Sep 17 16:47:21 theemathas-ubuntu signond[10903]: ../../../../src/signond/signondaemon.cpp 388 init Failed to SUID root. Secure storage will not be available.
[09:50] <karab44> Tj I just recovered backup image with ghost4linux
[09:50] <TJ-> theme2: Can you tell us which broadcom packages are installed ("dpkg -l 'broadcom*'  ") ?
[09:50] <k1l> theme2: did you already install the right driver for bcm43xx cards?
[09:50] <TJ-> theme2: Yes, that's an old old one!
[09:51] <karab44> made it 5th sept so it's not that old, needs just little tweaking.
[09:51] <theme2> TJ-: "dpkg -l 'broadcom*'" found nothing
[09:51] <TJ-> theme2: Did you manually install the 'wl' driver, or via "apt" / package management?
[09:52] <k1l> theme2: lsmod | grep -e b43 -e wl
[09:52] <theme2> TJ-: not sure
[09:52] <theme2> TJ-: I recall something similar
[09:52] <TJ-> k1l: We already know it is using 'wl'
[09:52] <k1l> hmmm
[09:52] <TJ-> theme2: How about "dpkg -l 'bcmwl*' " ?
[09:52] <theme2> TJ-: two hits here
[09:53] <minimec> theme2: Can you verify that this command 'apt-cache madison bcmwl-kernel-source' returns something like '<IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom...'
[09:53] <theme2> ii  bcmwl-kernel-s <IP_ADDRESS> amd64        Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireles
[09:53] <theme2> and
[09:53] <theme2> un  bcmwl-modalias <none>       <none>       (no description available)
[09:53] <TJ-> theme2: OK, we have it.
[09:53] <TJ-> k1l: for you:
 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4331] (rev 02)
 Subsystem: Apple Inc. AirPort Extreme [106b:00ef]
 Kernel driver in use: wl
[09:53] <theme2> apparently, wireless is misspelled
[09:53] <minimec> theme2: OK. 6.30.223.. is even better ;)
[09:54] <shinigami69> TJ- I rebooted my system but this time it came up with 3 lines that was too fast for me to read.. Is there a log file that i can check what those were ?
[09:54] <TJ-> theme2: k1l's earlier suggestion (based on RPM Redhat packages) was to effectively downgrade the driver version from 6.x to 5.x, and there are confirmations that solves this issue
[09:54] <theme2> shinigami69: hey! I also saw that thing
[09:54] <TJ-> shinigami69: "/var/log/dmesg"
[09:54] <theme2> Maybe my problem is similar to shinigami69's
[09:55] <TJ-> theme2: Are you using an Apple Mac device?
[09:55] <theme2> TJ-: Yes. I thought I already told that
[09:55] <theme2> I didn't?
[09:56] <TJ-> theme2: if you did it passed me by :)
[09:56] <theme2> TJ-: ???
[09:56] <TJ-> theme2: haha, bug! see bug 1360887
[09:57] <karab44> I have a question - when I start to type in nautilus it moves selection to current match. I.e. when type "doom" it selects "doom" folder and arrows jumps around all "doomed" named folder with that exception that it doesn't point any files where "doom" is postfix. Is there a way to enable that?
[09:59] <theme2> that bug looks exactly like my case
[10:00] <TJ-> theme2: We don't know if the poor performance issue is related to this, though
[10:01] <theme2> My computer is also a macbook
[10:02] <TJ-> theme2: As the bcma module (part of brcmsmac) declares it supports the chipset ID you have there, it'd be worth trying that instead of the 'wl' driver
[10:02] <theme2> TJ-: sudo apt-get install brcmsmac or what?
[10:02] <TJ-> theme2: You're using IRC from a different PC, correct?
[10:02] <SuperStink> hey guys
[10:02] <theme2> TJ-: nope
[10:03] <theme2> It's just very unstable
[10:03] <theme2> I mean the internet
[10:03] <nevermoreraven> how do I install password safe?
[10:03] <TJ-> theme2: hmmm.. OK, this could be more complicated then. To load the alternative kernel module you'll have to disable wifi networking, then unload the 'wl' driver, then load "brcmsmac"
[10:04] <nevermoreraven> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libykpers-1-1 (>= 1.7.0-1)
[10:04] <theme2> TJ-: there's the "Additional Drivers" GUI that presumely does that
[10:04] <SuperStink> so i was thinking of buying a new laptop just for ubuntu what sort of spec machine do i need i imagine its not alot
[10:04] <theme2> except that it only lists 1 driver there
[10:07] <minimec> nevermoreraven: What Ubuntu version are you on? 13.04 raring? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=libykpers&searchon=names
[10:07] <TJ-> theme2: It'll be something like "nmcli nm wifi off" then "sudo modprobe -r wl", then ensure "wl" is no longer in memory with "lsmod | grep wl" - if there is no listing for "wl" there, then do "sudo modprobe brcmsmac" then "nmcli nm wifi on" and see if you can get a connection
[10:07] <kgalahassa_> Hi I have a problem at boot  /dev/mapper/criptswap1 is not yet ready to mount
[10:07] <TJ-> theme2: If that fails...
[10:07] <SuperStink> i was looking to put the new version on
[10:08] <TJ-> theme2: Then "nmcli nm wifi off" , "sudo modprobe -r brcmsmac" then "sudo modprobe wl", "nmcli nm wifi on"
[10:12] <kk_drop> I had 2 disks: SSD and HDD attached, but accidentialy formatted first partition in hdd to swap and now I don't see any disk or even device in gparted on this disk
[10:12] <kk_drop> is there any way to recover it?
[10:14] <TJ-> kk_drop: possibly  - depends on what was there before
[10:15] <robin77> Anyone knows about a good 64-bit memory test tool?
[10:16] <kk_drop> it was empty partition 10gb (ntfs32) + extended partition with 2 another partitions (90gb ntfs + 400 gb fat32). I've formatted 400gb to ntfs and 10gb to swap accidentally (or more like I had no idea what i'm doing)
[10:16] <kk_drop> in disk order it was 10gb, ext ( 90gb + 400gb)
[10:17] <kk_drop> and after reboot I see only main disk where system is installed and no 500gb device at al
[10:17] <TJ-> kk_drop: if you only did "mkswap /dev/sdX1" then there'll be a swap header, but the remainder should be recoverable using "testdisk"
[10:17] <Naphatul> where does ubuntu recommend non repo software be installed? i was lazy and just made a bin folder in my home directory but i want to do it "properly" this time
[10:18] <kk_drop> TJ-, I did it with gparted tool, don't know exact command
[10:19] <kk_drop> TJ-, and this swap is not working - cat /proc/swaps returns nothing (i dind't have swap earlier at all)
[10:19] <TJ-> kk_drop: Hmmm. we're best working from the command line
[10:20] <kk_drop> TJ-,  is there anything I could do to recover this partition or format? I don't even see it when trying to fdisk -l
[10:20] <TJ-> kk_drop: what does "ls /dev/sd?" report ?
[10:20] <kk_drop> no such directory
[10:20] <kostkon> Naphatul, which one
[10:20] <kk_drop> TJ-, it's ubuntu 12.04
[10:20] <Naphatul> kostkon, what do you mean which one?
[10:20] <kostkon> Naphatul, software
[10:21] <Naphatul> kostkon, i'm getting pycharm at the moment but a lot of other stuff aswell
[10:22] <kostkon> Naphatul, in /opt if you want it to be system wide, otherwise in your home folder somewhere.. anywhere
[10:23] <kk_drop> TJ-, sorry, forgot question mark - result is /dev/sda  /dev/sdb
[10:23] <TJ-> kk_drop: phew!
[10:23] <kostkon> !info pycharm
[10:24] <TJ-> kk_drop: OK, lets find out which device is which "cat /sys/block/sd?/device/model"
[10:24] <kk_drop> KINGSTON SV300S3
[10:24] <kk_drop> xD/SD/M.S.
[10:27] <ByjmLays> Hello
[10:28] <q_a_z_steve> Hello
[10:28] <xenoa> ola
[10:28] <ByjmLays> How are u ?
[10:28] <xenoa> whats good option for windows ad in linux ?
[10:29] <xenoa> im fine....drinking coffee while googeling =D
[10:29] <panos_> i need to use ssh where both machines are behind NAT. any idea?
[10:30] <_-Tom-Tom-_> ssh -t @ panos_
[10:30] <TJ-> kk_drop: So sda is the SSD ... and the HDD is entirely gone as far as the kernel is concerned
[10:30] <TJ-> kk_drop: is the HDD internal or external?
[10:31] <panos_> what's ssh -t ?
[10:31] <_-Tom-Tom-_> ssh tunneling
[10:32] <panos_> can i use it without any publc ip?
[10:32] <_-Tom-Tom-_> why not
[10:32] <panos_> how?
[10:33] <kk_drop> it is disk in adapter (plugged in instead of cd rom). but when it all was windows partitions it was recognized as usb
[10:33] <_-Tom-Tom-_> mom
[10:35] <_-Tom-Tom-_> @panos ssh -t first_hop_ip ssh second_hop_ip
[10:37] <kk_drop> TJ-, sudo lshw is not showing this disk too
[10:37] <_-Tom-Tom-_> @panos best way to use it is without password but key-files
[10:39] <TJ-> kk_drop: try removal/reinsertion
[10:40] <kk_drop> it can't be - it's in adapter mounted instead of cdrom
[10:40] <kk_drop> I can reboot
[10:41] <kk_drop> TJ-, I'll do that, will be back in 5 mins
[10:43] <zetheroo> Is it possible to have a running Debian system (say Wheezy) and "change" it to Ubuntu without formatting and installing Ubuntu fresh!?
[10:43] <ikonia> no
[10:43] <ikonia> not at all
[10:43] <kuch3n> hi, iam trying to add some iptables rules but with following commands nothing was added: http://nopaste.euirc.net/index.php?id=09ebe87783
[10:44] <zetheroo> ikonia: co-worker seems to think it would work - I am VERY skeptical
[10:44] <ikonia> it would not
[10:44] <_-Tom-Tom-_> @kuch3n iptables -Lv -tnat
[10:44] <_-Tom-Tom-_> is your frind
[10:45] <ikonia> yeah, masq is a nat table rule
[10:45] <kuch3n> http://nopaste.euirc.net/index.php?id=dedadaa0e1
[10:46] <zetheroo> ikonia: the notion is that the packages which Ubuntu and Debian use are identically named - so just changing the sources and reinstalling all packages would "work"
[10:46] <_-Tom-Tom-_> so no nat table is present
[10:46] <ikonia> zetheroo: no it would not
[10:47] <zetheroo> could I ask why? :)
[10:47] <kuch3n> _-Tom-Tom-_: witg -L -v -t nat i got: http://nopaste.euirc.net/index.php?id=712de657cd
[10:47] <kuch3n> so theres something :>
[10:47] <ikonia> zetheroo: because a distro is not just package names
[10:48] <_-Tom-Tom-_> @kuch3n ok my system takes -tnat your's not
[10:48] <k1l> zetheroo: it used to work in the early days. but i doubt that this will result in a working system without having to manage a lot of depencies these days
[10:48] <kuch3n> _-Tom-Tom-_: it doesnt take -Lv
[10:48] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, like k1l, I suspect failed dependencies
[10:49] <TJ-> zetheroo: Try it in a VM but there'll be quite a few fix-ups required due to dependencies and diverges from Debian to Ubuntu
[10:50] <zetheroo> ha - ok, I think we'll leave it at that then :D
[10:51] <zetheroo> thanks guys ;)
[10:51] <b1234555> whois
[10:54] <DarkStar1> Hi all. anyone tried to install pdf2swf tools lately for 12.10
[10:54] <DarkStar1> seems the ppa is invalid
[10:54] <DarkStar1> http://act28.blogspot.fr/2012/09/install-swftools-from-ppa-on-ubuntu.html
[10:57] <theos> hi. is it possible for a key to have 2 keycodes at a time?
[10:57] <ikonia> keycodes ?
[10:57] <ikonia> what do you mean
[10:58] <theos> when i press the volume increase/decrease key, two keycodes are detected by xev. one is 19 which is for 0 and other is 122 which is for volume down
[10:59] <ikonia> I see
[10:59] <ikonia> so key press codes
[10:59] <theos> is there a way to remove the code for 0 from the key?
[11:00] <ikonia> no idea.
[11:00] <TJ-> theos: Are you using numeric keypad with overlaid media functions?
[11:00] <_-Tom-Tom-_> @ikonia ???
[11:01] <theos> TJ- i am using the touch keys on my hp laptop. they work for volume control but also input 0
[11:01] <theos> they used to work fine in 13.04 and before that
[11:02] <TJ-> theos:  which model ("grep DMI /var/log/dmesg") ?
[11:03] <newbsduser> how can watch a script call with elapsed time... for instance:  watch ./showstats.sh works fine but i can't see elapsed time like that.. is there an easy way to do that?
[11:03] <theos> TJ- its a DV7
[11:03] <theos> DMI: Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC
[11:06] <iiacd-Deepak> #servelots
[11:08] <DarkStar1> Can anyone help?
[11:08] <kk_drop> TJ-++ weird, it works now after reboot, but it didn't earlier when I rebooted. thank you for your time
[11:08] <TJ-> kk_drop: glad it's sorted
[11:11] <minimec> DarkStar1: If you are on 14.04 LTS, you don't need that ppa anymore... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=swftools&searchon=names
[11:11] <DarkStar1> minimec: I am on 12.10
[11:12] <minimec> DarkStar1: With 12.10 you have definitely a HUGE problem! UPGRADE!
[11:12] <k1l> !eol | DarkStar1
[11:12] <DarkStar1> minimec: Yeah I figured. I'm looking for article on upgrade path at the moment
[11:13] <k1l> DarkStar1: you need to upgrade to 13.04, then 13.10 then 14.04. see the message from the bot
[11:13] <minimec> DarkStar1: I would consider a fresh installation, because your recommended upgrade path would be 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04
[11:14] <ObrienDave> 4x as many chances on something going wonky
[11:14] <ObrienDave> 3x
[11:15] <DarkStar1> minimec: k1l it's a remote server
[11:15] <DarkStar1> so I have to upgrade
[11:15] <DarkStar1> as it has data on it
[11:16] <k1l> DarkStar1: then its even more careless to run a server with 12.10
[11:16] <DarkStar1> It's an old one
[11:17] <k1l> if you know you dont want to upgrade in near future stick to LTS releases in the first place.
[11:18] <DarkStar1> k1l: I do. This one is an inherited server.
[11:18] <user1> hi guys, i'm runnin ubuntu server op my laptop, and I would like to change the tab key into ctrl key, is that possible?
[11:19] <minimec> user1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:25] <ObrienDave> hiya
[11:26] <user1> minimec: thank you for your replay, the link you provided works only in a X session, which I don't user very often.
[11:28] <minimec> user1: obviously, since it uses xmodmap.
[11:32] <minimec> user1: HAve a look at /etc/default/keyboard and 'XKBOPTIONS' --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/149971/how-do-you-remap-a-key-to-the-caps-lock-key-in-xubuntu
[11:35] <DryEagle> hi guys, i'm setting up an fstab for this system, can someone just check it quickly to make sure i've done it right?
[11:36] <DryEagle> here's the disks layout https://gist.github.com/anonymous/083a105bccaf42b44044
[11:36] <DryEagle> here's the proposed fstab https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3d47d3fbac9314aa8926
[11:37] <DryEagle> just wondering if i'm missing anything obvious, all of this stuff is quite new to me
[11:37] <jitters> running 14.04  lts .  I  was wondering if there is  a security patch feature on networking &protocol that is causal to  the following.  Could any of you heavy duty Dudes  take a look and tell me if this could be my  Network provider or is there a Hack occuring further up the road
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[11:40] <ObrienDave> dang, full moon is not for 2.5 weeks
[11:57] <theos> is there a way to remove 2 keycodes from a single key? i am getting 2 keycodes when i trigger a single key.
[12:12] <NightFury> good morning all
[12:31] <Donguston> rm: cannot remove ‘/var/www/media/import’: Directory not empty
[12:31] <Donguston> ???????
[12:31] <moein> HI, I know Java and I am going learn python. What do you suggest to use as IDE? Do you suggest just use gedit + terminal?
[12:31] <ikonia> use -rf
[12:32] <Donguston> ikonia, that is with -rf
[12:32] <guzzi_jones> i have a vm running on an lvm at /dev/vg0/vm1, how come when i take a snapshot of that lvm i cannot mount it for a backup?
[12:33] <guzzi_jones> do snap shots not work with virtual machines on a partition?
[12:33] <evil_dan2wik> What is the command to upgrade from 13.10 to the lts 14.x version?
[12:33] <compdoc> Ive never done it because I dont like LVM, but I think you can do that
[12:33] <ikonia> Donguston: rm -rf
[12:33] <guzzi_jones> i am using lvcreate -n -s snap /dev/vg0/vm1
[12:33] <Donguston> yes ikonia
[12:34] <ikonia> Donguston: use that
[12:34] <ikonia> Donguston: your directory is not empty
[12:34] <Donguston> i did
[12:34] <ikonia> Donguston: right, that will work then
[12:34] <guzzi_jones> when i try and mount /mnt/snap /dev/vg0/vm1 i get -- you must define a file system
[12:34] <Donguston> http://pastebin.com/gk6bHCTs ikonia
[12:34] <guzzi_jones> i suppose i will just have to back it up with virsh
[12:35] <guzzi_jones> compdoc, why do you dislike lvm?
[12:36] <compdoc> gets in my way. just never liked it. its one reason I switched to Ubuntu server from centos, because ubuntu doesnt default to using lvm
[12:36] <ikonia> Donguston: that can't happen
[12:37] <Donguston> well it is happening
[12:37] <compdoc> in any case, you cancreate snapshots. Ive seen tutorials online
[12:37] <Donguston> i have no idea why :/
[12:37] <_Rocky_> I installed gnome-desktop on Ubuntu 14.04.1. The dual monitors settings(in ~/.config/monitors.xml) are not applied on startup. So I have to set the positions every time I boot into gnome. Is anyone else facing this issue? Can someone give me a clue why this could be happening?
[12:37] <ikonia> Donguston: is there anything under /var/www/import
[12:37] <ikonia> sorry /var/www/media/import
[12:38] <_Rocky_> If I switch to unity during login, the monitor settings are applied. It doesn't work just with GNOME and GNOME classic.
[12:39] <oleole> Hey. Where does Ubuntu store network configurations from the network manager GUI? I have a configuration for mobile broadband that I need to deploy on several machines, so it would be great if I could just copy the conf-file to the other machines, so I don’t have to go through the GUI and do it
[12:40] <_Rocky_> Also, I wanted to know if this is the right place to ask or should I be asking at the gnome channel in gimpnet
[12:41] <Donguston> oleole, /etc/network/interfaces
[12:41] <rajumoh> hi, i am creating partitions using cgpt. After creation of the partition id did a partprobe on the device, all the created partitions show up except one? how do i troubleshoot this ?
[12:43] <oleole> Donguston: Sure it’s the correct place? I can’t find the configuration with internet APN etc. in that
[12:43] <_Rocky_> rajumoh, is the missing partition primary or extended?
[12:43] <_Rocky_> rajumoh, could you mention your scheme?
[12:43] <_Rocky_> rajumoh, you could verify with cgpt or gparted or parted
[12:44] <minimec> oleole: Reading the german wiki, it should be .config/system/networking/connections for local Broadband
[12:45] <oleole> minimec: It’s a USB modem I connect to the computer, and the configuration is in the Mobile Broadband section of network manager, but I can’t see it in that file
[12:45] <rajumoh> _Rocky_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8364837/
[12:45] <minimec> oleole: IN what file...
[12:46] <rajumoh> _Rocky_: there is my partition and dev listing and an attempt tp format the partition
[12:46] <minimec> oleole: oups it's... ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections
[12:46] <oleole> minimec: Hmm I don’t even have that folder
[12:47] <oleole> minimec: Btw.. It’s 12.04
[12:47] <oleole> (that folder = system in .gconf)
[12:47] <minimec> oleole: Ok. It changed in 14.04....
[12:48] <rajumoh> _Rocky_: when i use gparted, i can see the partition mmcblk0p12, but then when i format it, it complains that i cannot find the parition
[12:49] <minimec> oleole: I don't have it either here on my 12.04 desktop...
[12:51] <oleole> minimec: Ahh, got it. It’s in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[12:51] <minimec> oleole: Cool. ;)
[12:52] <oleole> (Y)
[12:52] <rajumoh> _Rocky_: any ideas ?
[12:56] <ubuntuuser> Hi. What GTK version is Ubuntu 12.04.5 using? Seems like every GTK3.0 theme I apply will make Ubuntu (with Pantheon) look like Windows 95.
[12:57] <ikonia> gtk3
[12:57] <DanShin> someone know, what is the better kernel to use in ubuntu 14.04?
[12:57] <Z3> Hi, why nouveau looks with less brightness and/or contrast than nvidia proprietary driver? I use Ubuntu 14.04 in a desktop with a Nvidia GeForce GT 640. I had this problem in the past too with other nvidia cards and ubuntu versions
[12:58] <pbx> DanShin, better for what purpose?
[12:58] <_Rocky_> rajumoh, how big is your disk?
[12:58] <_Rocky_> 2 TB?
[12:58] <rajumoh> _Rocky_: 8gb
[12:58] <_Rocky_> oh
[12:59] <_Rocky_> rajumoh, what does parteprobe give you
[12:59] <DanShin> for the normal user. i just want work here. But i will use hardcore programs as matlab.
[12:59] <_Rocky_> rajumoh, did you check for errors in dmesg?
[13:00] <rajumoh> _Rocky_: no i did not , having a look now
[13:01] <minimec> ubuntuuser: 'dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0 libgtk-3-0'
[13:02] <ubuntuuser> minimec Desired- Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[13:03] <minimec> ubuntuuser: scroll down... 'ii  libgtk-3-0     3.4.2-0ubuntu0 GTK+ graphical user interface library' ;)
[13:03] <DanShin> pbx for the normal user. i just want work here. But i will use hardcore programs as matlab.
[13:04] <irina_povolotska> #openstack-neutron
[13:04] <rajumoh> _Rocky_: no errors in dmesg, on partprobe.  When i remove and reinsert the card it show that a new card with partitions 1,2 and 3 was found. cgpt still showing partitionls p1,p2,p3 and p12
[13:04] <minimec> ubuntuuser: If you don't see that, you don't hvave libgtk-3-0 installed ;)
[13:04] <ubuntuuser> seems i have 3.4.2
[13:04] <Z3> Hi, why nouveau looks with less brightness and/or contrast than nvidia proprietary driver? I use Ubuntu 14.04 in a desktop with a Nvidia GeForce GT 640. I had this problem in the past too with other nvidia cards and ubuntu versions
[13:04] <Helsinkiii> hi. how can I find the logs containing a recent kernel panic??
[13:06] <k1l> Helsinkiii: /var/log/syslog.1
[13:06] <ubuntuuser> so I must use only GTK 3.4 themes if I'm running on GTK 3.4.2?
[13:07] <Helsinkiii> k1l, it happened 2 minutes ago and I can't find it there
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Helsinkiii, try /var/log/syslog
[13:07] <mattxtn> Helsinkiii, you could also take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe
[13:07] <k1l> Helsinkiii: ok, the .1 is the syslog from last boot
[13:08] <DanShin> someone know, what is the better kernel to use in ubuntu 14.04?
[13:08] <Helsinkiii> k1l, could it be that my wireless driver keeps causing kernel panics when the downloading gets too intense?
[13:09] <k1l> Helsinkiii: dont know. see the logs what caused that kernel panic
[13:10] <jonars> hey guys. i'm really having a newby question but i cannot find the correct answer via google. i think i'm missing something basic. i tried to "make" or "make install" this http://icculus.org/obdgpslogger/ - did it like it's posted on the "building" section
[13:10] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, syslog contains stuff from after the panic
[13:10] <jonars> but make and make install throw back the error there's no targets specified and no makefile found
[13:10] <touki> do someone know how to use cpulimit ?
[13:10] <jonars> i install gcc buiild essentials before
[13:10] <touki> with a python script?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Helsinkiii, then there may be no log since kernel panic happened before you got to grub , correct?
[13:12] <ELFrederich> trying to "apt-get install -y openjdk-7-jre-headless" in an Ubuntu Docker container.  I get this:
[13:12] <ELFrederich> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:12] <ELFrederich>  openjdk-6-jre-headless : Depends: tzdata-java but it is not going to be installed
[13:13] <Helsinkiii> mattxtn, not sure how I'm supposed to use this
[13:13] <Helsinkiii> mattxtn, downloaded it, though
[13:13] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, hmm, basically everything went to text mode almost insatantly
[13:13] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, this happens almost daily
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Helsinkiii,  to the VT/TTY login?
[13:15] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, no everything is frozen. i need to restart with the power button
[13:15] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, everyhing is totally frozen
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Helsinkiii, then what happens after restart?
[13:15] <hillary> Which  terminal command can i use to upgrade my 12.04 to 14.04LTS
[13:16] <minimec> ELFrederich: 'sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-jre-headless' to get the package system working again, or was '6' a typing error? Afterwards we have to solve the tzdata-java problem
[13:16] <BluesKaj> hillary, sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:17] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, everything is back to normal. log in, get to work
[13:17] <hillary> ok
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hillary, make sure you update and upgrade first
[13:17] <hillary> how do i check my ubuntu version using terminal
[13:18] <BluesKaj> hillary, lsb_release -a
[13:20] <hillary> thank you
[13:20] <hillary> am now on 14.04lts
[13:20] <hillary> my broad band modem still not working
[13:21] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, should I simply try updating to the latest release?
[13:21] <Helsinkiii> BluesKaj, i'm on 12.04, would there be issues?
[13:21] <python> hi guys , someone has tryed kde 5 ?
[13:21] <hillary> i mean it disconnect itself
[13:24] <jonars> is there a need to "uninstall" manually built applications?
[13:24] <jonars> theres one app i downloaded via svn
[13:24] <jonars> and its also available via apt-get
[13:25] <Kazooie> jonars: it most likely that the svn copy you built is a newer version that is available in the repo
[13:26] <jonars> i c
[13:27] <jonars> and is the svn build just where i downloaded it or is it also copied to local/bin - e.g can I run both?
[13:27] <ikonia> jonars: no, it's where you configured it to deploy to, it depends on the app and the build method
[13:28] <jonars> okay, thanks
[13:28] <jonars> i dont get it - http://icculus.org/obdgpslogger/manpages/render/obdsim.txt - there's a bluetooth switch
[13:28] <jonars> but when i execute it, there the error "unrecognized command"
[13:28] <ikonia> thats a text file
[13:28] <ikonia> you don't execute a text file
[13:28] <ikonia> what command are you executing exactly ?
[13:28] <jonars> yeah but the textfile belongs to an application
[13:29] <jonars> http://icculus.org/obdgpslogger/
[13:29] <ikonia> jonars: no, what is the exact command you are using
[13:29] <jonars> svn co svn://svn.icculus.org/obdgpslogger/trunk obdgpslogger
[13:29] <ikonia> that checks out source code
[13:29] <ikonia> that doesn't actually give you an application
[13:29] <jonars> ok.. after installing it's just "obdsim - b"
[13:29] <ikonia> how did you install it ?
[13:29] <jonars> ok.. after installing it's just "obdsim -b"
[13:30] <jonars> cmake & make
[13:30] <ikonia> ugh
[13:30] <ikonia> so the binary will probably and up in either /usr/local/bin or the current working directory of the build
[13:30] <ikonia> depending on the build process
[13:30] <jonars> but the build method should not decide whether there's the bluetooth switch or not
[13:30] <jonars> yeah
[13:30] <jonars> i already found it
[13:31] <ikonia> so just run the command
[13:31] <jonars> i did
[13:31] <jonars> bluetooth switch is not recognized
[13:31] <jonars> but thats not related to build
[13:31] <ikonia> ok, so there you go then
[13:31] <ikonia> you've not built it to support that/it isn't in that version
[13:32] <jonars> ah - i see
[13:32] <jonars> what a pity it's already in the manpage
[13:42] <subsonik> hi guys
[13:42] <subsonik> my ubuntu 14.04 system stopped booting :(
[13:42] <subsonik> ALERT!  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
[13:42] <subsonik> this happened after I reformatted a logical volume into EXT4 (not the boot volume)
[13:42] <subsonik> I mean, not the root volume
[13:43] <rberg_> hey folks I am trying to stop "init: ttyS1 main process ended" log spam where I do not have a serial port. I have removed /etc/init/ttyS1.conf and ran "initctl reload-configuration" and "telinit q" this hasent stoped it yet.. any ideas on what I am missing?
[13:43] <subsonik> tried booting from a live CD, removing this reformatted volume, doesnt help
[13:43] <subsonik> :(
[13:44] <DJ_Unibob> Still early in the day, but someone should be able to help or point you guys in the right direction before too long.
[13:45] <subsonik> btw, if I type "lvm" in the initramfs console, all my logical volumes show up fine, yet I still got ALERT!  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
[13:45] <subsonik> anyone have a clue? :(
[13:46] <ikonia> subsonik: what pv's make up the ubuntu volume group
[13:47] <subsonik> ikonia: only /dev/sda3
[13:49] <ikonia> subsonik: try to bring the volume group on line and mount it
[13:50] <subsonik> I think the VG is online because I can mount my root LV just fine
[13:50] <stevendumani> hello, I'm using 14.04 64 bit, can i install defoma of older versions of ubuntu? and which one? https://launchpad.net/defoma
[13:50] <JuJuBee> Is there any way to recover a SATA HD given these messages?  http://pastebin.com/FgJbmeYA
[13:50] <subsonik> in the initramfs console I type mount /dev/ubuntu-vg/root /something et voila
[13:50] <JuJuBee> Or am I SOL?
[13:50] <hillary> can anybody assist me with my broadband not working in 14.04 LTS?
[13:50] <ikonia> subsonik: iti can't be online if you're getting that error message
[13:50] <hillary> it used to work but it has stopped
[13:50] <ikonia> how are you mounting it/what are you doing to mount it
[13:51] <subsonik> ikonia: I didn't do anything to mount the volume group :-)
[13:51] <subsonik> I just mounted the logical volume
[13:51] <ikonia> subsonik: from where ?
[13:51] <subsonik> from the initramfs console
[13:51] <hillary> It is huawei mobile broadband model E 1750
[13:52] <ikonia> how are y mounting it
[13:52] <ikonia> how are you
[13:52] <subsonik> I type mount /dev/ubuntu-vg/root /something
[13:52] <subsonik> and there I have my root volume under /something
[13:52] <subsonik> :)
[13:52] <rberg_> weird so I had to recreate ttyS1.conf,  'stop ttyS1'. rm ttyS1.conf, then initctl reload-configuration..
[13:52] <ikonia>  at what point in the boot process do you gt the error message
[13:52] <rberg_> I guess  you have to stop it before removing the conf file
[13:53] <subsonik> ikonia: no clue, in grub I select recovery mode, then it runs for about 30 secs, then I get the error message "ALERT!  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"
[13:53] <subsonik> and this is the shell I'm currently working in
[13:54] <subsonik> ie. where I can properly mount my root LV
[13:54] <subsonik> makes me think there is something wrong wit this "mapper" thing because he's complaining /dev/mapper/ubungu--vg-root doesn't exist  - even though the LV seems fine
[13:55] <ikonia> subsonik: remove the boot splash and boot it normally
[13:55] <subsonik> what's a boot splash?
[13:55] <subsonik> if I boot normally I just get a black screen
[13:55] <subsonik> (dark purple, actually)
[13:57] <stevendumani> hello, I'm using 14.04 64 bit, can i install defoma of older versions of ubuntu? and which one? https://launchpad.net/defoma
[13:57] <DarkStar1> I keep getting this error : debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog
[13:57] <DarkStar1> using ubuntu 14.04
[13:58] <DarkStar1> I tried installing debconf but keep getting the same error
[13:58] <expunge> DarkStar1: try reinstalling dialog via apt-get
[13:58] <calimero_82> hi guys
[13:59] <calimero_82> how can i compress an iso file? i ve lubuntu 14.04, thanks
[13:59] <DarkStar1> expunge: as in apt-get install dialog?
[14:00] <DarkStar1> expunge: because I get the same exact error
[14:01] <subsonik> ikonia: any further suggestions? :-) otherwise I'll resort to reinstall (AGAIN) :-(
[14:01] <ikonia> subsonik: sorry, I'm lagging hard, what was your last question
[14:01] <subsonik> np it's about the boot issue where my root LV doesn't get mounted
[14:02] <CorruptedHelix> I'm trying to do something a bit complicated here; I made two partitions on my external SSD (which is where I want to install ubuntu), one which is 8GB and the other which is 60GB. I installed Ubuntu on the 8GB partition and tried to boot into it via the Boot Manager, but here comes the tricky part.
[14:02] <stevendumani> hello, I'm using 14.04 64 bit, can i install defoma of older versions of ubuntu? and which one? https://launchpad.net/defoma
[14:02] <subsonik> you asked me to remove the boot splash (?)
[14:02] <subsonik> so I tried booting normally which gives me a black screen
[14:02] <ikonia> subsonik: it's a grub option
[14:02] <CorruptedHelix> It's an HP computer, so it only lets me choose devices, not partitions. It sees my eSATA drive, but when I boot into it I get a black backlit screen and nothing happens.
[14:02] <subsonik> k I'll have a look
[14:02] <CorruptedHelix> What might be the issue?
[14:03] <subsonik> ikonia: can't find anything boot splash related in grub
[14:03] <subsonik> do you mean the "recovery mode" ?
[14:03] <superkuh> I run Xubuntu 14.04 w/Ubuntu MATE desktop environment. I used to run the same on 12.04. After dist-upgrading to 14.04 I began to have constant, seemingly random, segfaults in my file managers (Caja, Thunar). I installed debug symbols, etc, and the backtraces on the crashes all point to memory corruption in the gslice magazine allocator. These crashes are so frequent as to make desktop use infuriating. I have documented the issue at: http://ubunt
[14:03] <superkuh> uforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244484 . Anyone have any ideas on where or who I submit this bug to?
[14:04] <superkuh> Er, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244484 for anyone too lazy to cut and paste.
[14:04] <Fuchs> superkuh: your link got cut apart due to the 512 character limit of IRC
[14:04] <ikonia> subsonik: no, forget recovery mode, there should be a splash option in the grub onfig, you need to change that to nosplash and remove th e quiet option
[14:04] <Fuchs> ah, you've seen that :)
[14:05] <stevendumani> hello, I'm using 14.04 64 bit, can i install defoma of older versions of ubuntu? and which one? https://launchpad.net/defoma
[14:05] <DarkStar1> gah I can't uninstall or install anything. It would seem that the attempt at installing mariadb is somehow blocking this, functionality.
[14:06] <calimero_82> how can i compress an iso file? i ve lubuntu 14.04, thanks!!!
[14:06] <calimero_82> :)
[14:07] <DarkStar1> keep getting this when I try to un-install the db, or diqlog or just about everything I have tried to install thus far
[14:07] <expunge> calimero_82: an "iso file" with what on it?
[14:08] <calimero_82> yes
[14:08] <calimero_82> it's a game
[14:08] <calimero_82> but it's to big for my usb
[14:08] <calimero_82> usbpen
[14:08] <xangua> buy a bigger usb stick
[14:10] <minimec> high_fiver:
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: how big is your USB?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: the data is already compressed to make the squashfs which holds the liveCD environment
[14:16] <expunge> ActionParsnip: kind of a personal question
[14:17] <calimero_82> the iso is 5.6 gb, i've 2 pen usb of 4 gb
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: what is the name of the file?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: i dont know an official ISO that big...
[14:17] <calimero_82> rld-sim3.iso
[14:18] <minimec> calimero_82: ;) https://www.google.com/search?q=split+iso+file&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en#channel=fe&hl=en&q=split+iso+file+ubuntu
[14:18] <jhutchins> calimero_82: Just mount the iso, no need for a physical disk.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: is this a game?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: sims 3
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: so....piracy.....
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !piracy | calimero_82,
[14:19] <calimero_82> yes sims3
[14:19] <fancyfetus> everytime I attempt to boot from usb
[14:19] <calimero_82> nono no piracy
[14:19] <fancyfetus> the isolinux folder contents are deleted....
[14:19] <fancyfetus> so I'd check the iso folder on windows and it would have all of it's files
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: its an ISO from torrents, if you search the web it is all over the place
[14:19] <eutheria> hi, i am trying to get a backtrace from an app, however when it segfaults i can't escape from the window, is there something i can do to break out back to the desktop?
[14:20] <fancyfetus> then when I try to boot from it and the boot fails. I go back to windows to see that isolinux is empty again!
[14:20] <superkuh> euphoria, type "continue"
[14:20] <superkuh> in gdb.
[14:20] <eutheria> superkuh: i can't get out of the app's window
[14:20] <superkuh> Huh. Not sure I understand.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !usb | fancyfetus, I suspect you created a *very* faulty USB.
[14:21] <superkuh> You could always ctrl-alt-f# to switch to another tty and kill it via that console.
[14:21] <eutheria> superkuh: the app won't let go of the cursor or keyboard, all i can do is alt+f1 to kill gdb from console
[14:21] <CorruptedHelix> I installed Ubuntu to a drive via the USB Installer. On the drive is WUBI. Can I just launch Ubuntu via Wubi and install it to my target drive that way?
[14:21] <fancyfetus> cfhowlett, I've followed all of those instructions
[14:22] <eutheria> can't alt+tab away from the app, just alt+ctrl+fx
[14:22] <cfhowlett> CorruptedHelix, wubi is no longer supported and does not work with 14.04.  do ANYTHING but wubi
[14:22] <CorruptedHelix> Then let me restate my previous issue
[14:22] <CorruptedHelix> I'm trying to do something a bit complicated here; I made two partitions on my external SSD (which is where I want to install ubuntu), one which is 8GB and the other which is 60GB. I installed Ubuntu on the 8GB partition and tried to boot into it via the Boot Manager, but here comes the tricky part.
[14:22] <CorruptedHelix> It's an HP computer, so it only lets me choose devices, not partitions. It sees my eSATA drive, but when I boot into it I get a black backlit screen and nothing happens.
[14:23] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: you need to install a boot manager to the device you are booting from
[14:23] <CorruptedHelix> How?
[14:23] <high_fiver> minimec, o/
[14:23] <CorruptedHelix> eutheria: http://smashinglim.es/i/Uk7Skp.png
[14:23] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup
[14:23] <CorruptedHelix> Ubuntu O: is the target drive
[14:23] <superkuh> CorruptedHelix, that URL does not load an image.
[14:24] <eutheria> 503, internal server error
[14:24] <superkuh> Ah, now it does.
[14:24] <minimec> high_fiver: never mind... It was a typical hi<tab> 'thing'... ;)
[14:24] <CorruptedHelix> superkuh: Reload the page, it works for me.
[14:24] <superkuh> Must be load stuff.
[14:24] <martin1989> hi people
[14:24] <martin1989> i have a question about peppermint
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> martin1989: peppermint isnt supported here
[14:24] <martin1989> where could i ask that?
[14:24] <eutheria> reloaded, works, CorruptedHelix so you are in windows? so what?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> CorruptedHelix, grub should have installed ...and being an HP pc means nothing , there's nothing different about them than any other pc, you chose a pretty small partition for ubantu as well
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> martin1989: try in #peppermintos
[14:25] <high_fiver> minimec, don't leave me hanging
[14:25] <martin1989> ok thnx
[14:25] <CorruptedHelix> BluesKaj: 8GB is the install partition since I don't have a USB stick, when I boot into it I'm going to install it to my 60GB partition
[14:25] <eutheria> so no one knows how to register break out of a crashed app that has stolen the keyboard/mouse focus?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> CorruptedHelix, so it's a / and the 60G is /home?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> martin1989: seems to be #peppermint on the SpotChat IRC network
[14:26] <CorruptedHelix> BluesKaj: Ubuntu partition is empty right now since I didn't get into Ubuntu to install it to there yet
[14:26] <CorruptedHelix> eutheria: I have no idea how to install it or boot into it. I'm currently using Windows and GRUB does not show up at load, nor when I boot into my eSATA drive.
[14:27] <Zenzr_> Hello all
[14:27] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: that wiki page should help, well boot a rescue disk and run grub
[14:28] <CorruptedHelix> eutheria: I can't because of my issue, I have no USB drive.
[14:28] <Israphel2> if you create an ubuntu liveusb with Unetbootin, how do you get to the language selection?
[14:28] <CorruptedHelix> If I did I wouldn't be doing something this complicated
[14:28] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: how did you even install ubuntu in the first place?
[14:28] <CorruptedHelix> I DIDN'T.
[14:28] <CorruptedHelix> That's my issue.
[14:28] <CorruptedHelix> I can't boot into Ubuntu.
[14:29] <CorruptedHelix> Let me explain this again.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> CorruptedHelix, no dvds or dvd drive either?
[14:29] <CorruptedHelix> No burnable ones
[14:29] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: pxe boot
[14:29] <CorruptedHelix> Just listen... I have Ubuntu installed onto my SSD in an 8GB installation partition, and a 60GB partition that I want to install it to once I boot up Ubuntu.
[14:30] <CorruptedHelix> I tried going into the Boot Manager at startup and boot from the eSATA drive (the SSD is external), but when I do, the screen goes black and nothing happens.
[14:30] <CorruptedHelix> I can't boot into Ubuntu and thus can't actually install it.
[14:30] <boss2022003> I am BUMMED that the Ubuntu Edge program didn't make the phone......it would've been a frontrunner EVEN NOW!!!
[14:30] <cfhowlett> boss2022003, tis sad, but please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:31] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: so you didn't install ubuntu but yet you have ubuntu installed? wow that is one which came first problem
[14:32] <Zenzr_> Can someone direct me to Ubuntu support with a Macbook, if there’s a specific area I can go to?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !mac | Zenzr_,
[14:32] <CorruptedHelix> eutheria: I installed Ubuntu to drive I: via the USB Installer, which is the 8GB partition on my SSD
[14:32] <CorruptedHelix> I want to boot into that partition and run the installer
[14:32] <CorruptedHelix> and install it on my 60GB partition
[14:32] <CorruptedHelix> The main problem here is,  I can't boot into Ubuntu.
[14:32] <CorruptedHelix> Ignore everything else.
[14:33] <Zenzr_> Thank you
[14:33] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: so you installed the installer to a partition,
[14:33] <CorruptedHelix> eutheria: http://smashinglim.es/i/EIIrJ8.png What I installed to that partition
[14:33] <CorruptedHelix> http://smashinglim.es/i/XSbMzw.png My destination partition
[14:33] <CorruptedHelix> Take note of the drive names
[14:34] <seinf2> dasd
[14:34] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: are you using wubi ?
[14:34] <seinf2> br ?
[14:34] <CorruptedHelix> ikonia: Not trying to, that was put into the directory by the installer
[14:34] <k1l> !br | seinf2
[14:34] <CorruptedHelix> I used Universal USB Installer
[14:34]  * cfhowlett makes the sign of the cross in wubi's direction - to ward off evil.
[14:35] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: can I clarify
[14:35] <CorruptedHelix> Yes
[14:35] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: have you actually installed ubuntu ?
[14:35] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: so why are you showing screenshots of the ubuntu file systems from windows ?
[14:36] <CorruptedHelix> ikonia: To show my goal, I'm typing a reply ot your first message
[14:36] <CorruptedHelix> Here's as far as I've gotten; I've downloaded the Ubuntu ISO. I used Universal USB Installer to install it on my 8GB partition. When I try to boot into this partition, nothing happens.
[14:36] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: how  are you showing the ubuntu file system in windows
[14:36] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: the ubuntu file system is not visible by windows
[14:36] <CorruptedHelix> ikonia: I installed it via the ISO, I NEVER BOOTED INTO UBUNTU TO INSTALL IT YET.
[14:36] <mishravikas> Hi all am running ubuntu 14.04 and my system takes a lot of time to boot up so I checked dmesg logs and I can see that it takes about 300 seconds and that is no way normal can anyone please help me read and interpretthose logs?
[14:36] <eutheria> ikonia: he things he has installed ubuntu, but he has installed the installer
[14:37] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: typing in caps doesn't make it any more true
[14:37] <CorruptedHelix> I'm getting annoyed because this is going circular.
[14:37] <CorruptedHelix> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[14:37] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: if you installed into a 8GB partitioin, windows should not be able to seee that partition at all
[14:37] <CorruptedHelix> THat's what I used.
[14:37] <CorruptedHelix> ikonia: It formatted it to FAT32.
[14:37] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: then that's why it's failing
[14:37] <CorruptedHelix> I'll try again via UNetbootin.
[14:37] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: you should be using ext4 or xfs or some ort of linux supported file system with permissions
[14:37] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: you are trying to do something that can't be done,
[14:38] <k1l> CorruptedHelix: for that sort of installer you need a removable usb device like a usb-pen-drive
[14:38] <CorruptedHelix> eutheria: I'm not doing anything like that on purpose, all I used is Universal USB Installer so far.
[14:38] <eutheria> where are you intending to install ubuntu to? the 8gb partition that the ubuntu installer is installed on?
[14:38] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: no need to change the installer
[14:38] <CorruptedHelix> k1l: I have none, which is why I am using a different partition
[14:38] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: the universal installer will not make fat32 file systems
[14:38] <k1l> CorruptedHelix: that doesnt work with usb-hdd or other partiitons
[14:38] <CorruptedHelix> God dammit.
[14:38] <mishravikas> can anyone help find problems from dmesg logs please?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> lots of cooks now :)
[14:39] <CorruptedHelix> eutheria: I was intending to install it to the 8GB partition, boot into the partition, and then install it to my 60GB partition from inside of there.
[14:39] <CorruptedHelix> Essentially, I'm trying to use my 8GB partition as a USB drive.
[14:39] <fission6> any ideas why when i run the following command from inside  abash script i get "Extra" output in the console about Waiting for Node, the command is sudo service httpd restart, it works instantly when i run the command directly on the terminal, but if its done in a bashscript it hangs on this "Waiting for 1 node -> 19222" i don't even get that output when i run directly, any ideas!?
[14:40] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: so you are going to have to find a way to get a boot loader, good luck with that if you have no cd's/pxe boot servers or usb drives
[14:40] <eutheria> and to which you don't need the 8gb partition
[14:40] <eutheria> google for windows boot loaders
[14:41] <BluesKaj> CorruptedHelix, no usbs , no dvds or cds , go spnd a couple dollars and buy some media you can use to install from
[14:41] <eutheria> as i said in the first place
[14:41] <minimec> CorruptedHelix: Let's guess, that what you want is not possible. Couldn't it be a solution to install Virtualbox and create an empty virtual machine. Afterwards you load the Ubuntu live image into that VM, and install it on the physical 60GB partition ;)
[14:41] <CorruptedHelix> minimec: Is it?
[14:42] <eutheria> CorruptedHelix: don't listen, he is making fun
[14:42] <cfhowlett> minimec, I like that idea!
[14:42] <CorruptedHelix> I thought so.
[14:42] <eutheria> i personally like the idea too
[14:42] <eutheria> however don't
[14:42] <eutheria> go buy yourself a usb drive
[14:43] <minimec> CorruptedHelix: Did you ever run a OS on that hdd. Is the master boot sector ready for booting... ?
[14:43] <k1l> grub actually can boot from .isos but that is going to get real tricky to install and it is way more easier to get some sort of removable media
[14:43] <Con7e> Guys, are any of you a screen expert?
[14:43] <CorruptedHelix> minimec: Never.
[14:43] <eutheria> i am sure you can find €5 from somewhere
[14:43] <Con7e> I am trying to understand a strange bebhaviour
[14:43] <Con7e> I currently have 3 screen sessions
[14:43] <Con7e> con7e@Con7e:~$ screen -list
[14:43] <Con7e> There are screens on:
[14:43] <Con7e>         3285.pts-3.Con7e        (09/03/2014 05:24:39 AM)        (Detached)
[14:43] <Con7e>         1216.rtorrent   (09/03/2014 04:27:42 AM)        (Detached)
[14:43] <Con7e>         941.autodl      (09/03/2014 04:27:37 AM)        (Attached)
[14:43] <minimec> CorruptedHelix: We do not know if your 'installation' on the ssd was really successful, right?
[14:43] <unopaste> Con7e you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:44] <CorruptedHelix> minimec: Nope.
[14:44] <eutheria> i really need a way to break out of my crashed app, xdotool could be my answer but what can i run to break the hold
[14:44] <eutheria> XF86Ungrab doesn't seem to be something on 14.04
[14:44] <Con7e> I don't understand why the last one says "attached", since I am out of screen currently
[14:45] <Con7e> And the only way I can go there is with the -x flag
[14:45] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | Con7e
[14:45] <minimec> CorruptedHelix: So what you need is a 'medium' to boot the live install disk. My proposition is Virtualbox...
[14:45] <expunge> Con7e: -d -r
[14:46] <Con7e> what does that do exactly?
[14:46] <expunge> detaches, reattaches
[14:46] <k1l> Con7e: how did you get out of that session?
[14:46] <expunge> Con7e: basically it does what you want =P
[14:46] <Con7e> Ctrl-a d
[14:46] <Con7e> K1rk:
[14:46] <expunge> Con7e: no, screen -d -r #
[14:46] <expunge> oh k1l =)
[14:46] <k1l> well, then detach that with the command from expunge
[14:47] <Con7e> Now it works expunge
[14:47] <expunge> gj
[14:47] <Con7e> But why does -r -d detach all of them
[14:47] <expunge> it doesn't
[14:47] <Con7e> while CTRL-a d doesn't
[14:48] <Con7e> What I mean is
[14:48] <Con7e> If I type screen -r sessionX
[14:48] <Con7e> And then detach from there
[14:48] <Con7e> the session is still "attached" in the screen -list command
[14:48] <expunge> you sure?
[14:48] <Con7e> With your command, it's not
[14:49] <expunge> with my command, it doesn't matter if it
[14:49] <expunge> is
[14:49] <Con7e> Can you explain what that does?
[14:50] <Con7e> the man page is not really helpful
[14:51] <expunge> Con7e: it just attaches, and detaches it first if required
[14:51] <expunge> it says it plain as day in my man page =)
[14:52] <jonars> whats a nice slick editor with syntax highlightning ?
[14:53] <Rory> jonars: sublime text
[14:53] <jonars> thx :)
[14:53] <Rory> Other Editors Are Available
[14:53] <jonars> yeah i know there are lots
[14:54] <jonars> i wanted to hear a tip
[14:54] <jonars> :)
[14:54] <Rory> I personally use sublime full time though. And I would recommend it, once you have it set up how you like.
[14:54] <jonars> perfect
[14:55] <minimec> cfhowlett: So just as a note. My 'virtualbox' idea is definitely possible but needs some prework... https://superuser.com/questions/495025/use-physical-harddisk-in-virtual-box
[14:55] <vfw> What is the default timeout for sudo?
[14:56] <vfw> *(How can I find out what it is set to?)*
[14:56] <dalmation> hello everybody
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> vfw: I believe it's 15 mins
[14:56] <svkoskin> Hello, I am having issues with Intel fake RAID. I installed dmraid and now the RAID volume created from BIOS appears under /dev/mapper/, but the volume is 1.5 TB instead of ~6 TB.
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> vfw: you can drop it with:   sudo -k    to end the grace
[14:57] <Fuchs> vfw: the default is in man sudoers, yes, it is 15 minutes
[14:57] <jonars> is it a good idea to work on a hfs+ hdd or should i work on the native linux hdd?
[14:57] <Fuchs> (and that also tells you how to modify it, if needed)
[14:57] <NodeWontSendEmai> what are some other programs that offer shell escape other than more?
[14:57] <jonars> i'm coming from osx and all projects are on the hfs+ hdd and it should not be damaged :)
[14:58] <expunge> jonars: it's a good idea to have backups, and not worry about such things
[14:58] <jonars> sure
[14:59] <jonars> but is there danger that linux is damaging hfs+ (as it might be like reverse engineered and not 100% stable, like ntfs)
[15:00]  * cfhowlett LOL!  ntfs = 100% stable ...
[15:01] <jonars> sure... 1000%
[15:01] <jonars> ;)
[15:03] <jonars> ok working on ext4... feel better with that. one last question - the snapping of the mouse in corner for resizing windows is like 1px. can i increase the tolerance?
[15:03] <expunge> jonars: not any particular danger, no
[15:03] <jonars> or is this an xfce related thing
[15:03] <expunge> jonars: are you using xfce?
[15:03] <jonars> yes
[15:03] <expunge> then check the window manager prefs under settings
[15:03] <tim__> hy all
[15:04] <expunge> heya tim
[15:04] <tim__> i have a little big issue with my linux..  :-S
[15:04] <tim__> can any1 please help ?
[15:04] <expunge> neat
[15:04] <expunge> no, but many ones can
[15:04] <tim__> :-D
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !ask | tim__,
[15:05] <tim__> well.. problem started with update.. a had a lausy connection and.. some packets didn't download as it supoosed too.. now.. upt-get say all kind of things.. and.. i am newb :-S
[15:06] <jonars> okay. thanks expunge for answering my questions... i'll keep idling here (or maybe better... i'll be back ;-)
[15:06] <Fuchs> tim__: start by putting "all kind of things" into a pastebin service, then link that here
[15:07] <eutheria> ok so Option "AllowDeactivateGrabs" "true" doesn't work any more for alt+ctrl+/ to break me out of an app
[15:07] <eutheria> what can i do?
[15:07] <tim__> moment.. need to resend picture
[15:07] <NodeWontSendEmai> tim__ you probably want to reinstall your apt get and updated it
[15:07] <Fuchs> not picture, text.
[15:08] <Fuchs> NodeWontSendEmai: he might want to give us the error messages first, that is a shot in the dark that can go terribly wrong
[15:09] <NodeWontSendEmai> what could go wrong reinstalling apt get ? it sounds like he just needs to reconfigure dpkg and update
[15:09] <NodeWontSendEmai> but i could be wrong
[15:09] <NodeWontSendEmai> Fuchs
[15:10] <Fuchs> it is one of the more crucial packages that one doesn't want to break, so without knowing what causes the error: touching it is not the best of all ideas. You also don't just rip out and replace various parts of a car or TV that doesn't work
[15:12] <Fuchs> chances are that an sudo apt-get -f install   and/or   sudo dpkg-reconfigure are all that is needed, but one would know better if one had error messages. Can be everything from bad config files to conflicting ppas etc. pp.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> NodeWontSendEmai: you can use dpkg to install the apt-get deb file, no worries
[15:13] <NodeWontSendEmai> i see
[15:13] <NodeWontSendEmai> everyday learning
[15:14] <anderson> car or tv?
[15:15] <anderson> I guess I am behind the times.
[15:15] <NodeWontSendEmai> ?
[15:16] <NodeWontSendEmai> TBH i wouldn't fix a flat tire given the chance, i would replace it
[15:16] <NodeWontSendEmai> lol
[15:16] <anderson> NodeWontSendEmai, sorry ignore me. I need to lurk and grok before I contribute to the channel.
[15:16] <NodeWontSendEmai> anderson np
[15:17] <expunge> semantics?
[15:17] <Fuchs> yes, and if the cause of the flat tire was unfortunately part of the car and is still there: the replacement will be flat right away too. This is why one analyzes the problem before blindly attempting to fix it
[15:17] <NodeWontSendEmai> then its not a tire problem anymore :P
[15:18] <expunge> this metaphor is out of control
[15:18] <NodeWontSendEmai> chances are it was just a nail though.
[15:18] <NodeWontSendEmai> placed by a angry neighbor
[15:18] <svkoskin> Is there a way to use FakeRAID with a 6-terabyte RAID volume?
[15:19] <guest322> I've just installed i3wm. Now I want to map some keys to control the volume. What should I use ALSA or PulseAudio. It seems that both of them are running.
[15:20] <NodeWontSendEmai> which is older?
[15:20] <ObrienDave> dirt
[15:21] <somsip> guest322: map to "amixer -q sset Master 2+" for volume up worked fine for me under alsa and pulse. make is 2- for volume down
[15:22] <expunge> ObrienDave: so true
[15:22] <somsip> !pm | guest322 (I don't have a mute)
[15:22] <Fuchs> guest322: I'd go with pulse as it adjusts the volume idependently of what soundcard is in use and what controls that offer, especially handy if you ever plan to use bluetooth headsets or usb headsets or if you have a laptop with different profiles for speaker / haedphones
[15:22] <ObrienDave> expunge, i'm best at being a bubble burster LOL
[15:22] <expunge> =P
[15:23] <sr105> How do I get the real package name that would be installed if I ran `apt-get install pseudo-package` without actually installing?
[15:23] <somsip> sr105: add --dry-run to the end
[15:23] <ObrienDave> ooooo, learned something \o/
[15:23] <yeats> sr105: or 'apt-get -s install package'
[15:23] <Fuchs> guest322: amixer is a tad bit easier to run than pacmd though, so ...
[15:23] <sr105> That doesn't work: "linux-image-generic-lts-trusty (<IP_ADDRESS>.42 Ubuntu:14.04/trusty-updates [i386])"
[15:24] <sr105> I can get the version that way and I can use "apt-cache policy" also to get the version and "apt-get depends" to get the next pseudo package
[15:26] <c3vin> does ubuntu support group nesting?
[15:26] <yeats> -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act - all mean the same thing
[15:26] <c3vin> can I add a group to a group?
[15:26] <sr105> I'm trying to script this. I want to say "apt-get what_would_be_installed linux-image-generic-lts-trusty" and get back "linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic"
[15:26] <yeats> c3vin: nope
[15:27] <tim__> how can i post picture?
[15:27] <c3vin> yeats: how is one to handle allowing multiple users the ability to print?
[15:27] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | tim__
[15:27] <tim__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8365686/
[15:27] <c3vin> yeats: err...or the ability to add printers
[15:27] <yeats> c3vin: create (or use an existing) group that has print perms and add each user to that group
[15:27] <tim__> did it work?
[15:28] <ObrienDave> tim__, umm,yes but no picture on that service