[00:14] <xiii__> hello.
[01:49] <jimtendo> Not sure if this is a Kubuntu issue or I'm doing something wrong (copying from other CMakeLists that I've seen). When trying to build a KDE plugin, I'm using ${PLUGIN_INSTALL_DIR} as the location to install the library to. On Kubuntu, this maps to: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ where as I think it should be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/, lest it won't be found otherwise. Anyone know anything about this or has noticed similar behaviour?
[06:31] <shanemikel> I've tried a few slightly different examples of using 'expect' from StackExchange to automate my ssh login, but no dice
[06:31] <shanemikel> I'm trying to use it simply to enter my password and hand the shell back to me for manual use
[06:32] <shanemikel> stupid admins at my school don't allow ssh keys
[06:33] <shanemikel> I'm testing it on my local Kubuntu install (local openssh server) until the script works.. I've got as far as a successful login, but as soon as the login succeeds the script terminates
[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:04] <batteronizer> Good morning
[07:05] <batteronizer> I removed an account from KMail, but it's folder is still visible and the Delete option is disabled (greyed out)
[07:05] <batteronizer> How can I remove the folder from KMail?
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:00] <DanaKil> #j symfony-fr
[13:00] <DanaKil> (oups, sorry)
[13:49] <clayorn> howdy fellow kubuntu lovers
[13:51] <BluesKaj> hi clayorn
[13:55] <clayorn> hi blues
[13:55] <clayorn> what kubuntu are you running?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Artful and I;m testing Bionic 18,04
[13:59] <BluesKaj> dual boot
[14:03] <clayorn> brave dual booter
[14:03] <clayorn> :)
[14:04] <clayorn> 14.04 is  me
[14:04] <clayorn> all kde for me
[14:04] <clayorn> got rid of xp
[14:09] <BluesKaj> not brave, been doing this type thing for many yrs , always have a fallback OS, and Artful is it
[14:09] <BluesKaj> atm
[14:13] <clayorn> understood
[14:19] <clayorn> location?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Northern Ontario Canada, how bout you?
[14:21] <clayorn> south carolina
[14:22] <BluesKaj> new to kubuntu/linux ?
[14:22] <clayorn> 6 years user
[14:23] <clayorn> big fan of  linux
[14:23] <BluesKaj> good :-)
[14:23] <clayorn> ahhthe sweet flavours of disrtos
[14:23] <clayorn> distros
[14:23] <clayorn> :P
[14:24] <clayorn> playing on a netbook that was running xp
[14:25] <BluesKaj> yeah, tried quite a few, but I always come back to kubuntu as my main OS
[14:26] <clayorn> i  love your thinking
[14:26] <BluesKaj> netbook must be fairly old
[14:26] <clayorn> she is old
[14:26] <clayorn> but runs
[14:26] <clayorn> asus
[14:26]  * BluesKaj nods
[14:27] <clayorn> asus?
[14:27] <clayorn> what pc do you have ?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> this HP desktop pc is 9 yrs old , has a few improvements and still runs fine
[14:28] <clayorn> love hp solid hardware
[14:29] <clayorn> i have a hp desktop pavilian 3 years old
[14:29] <clayorn> running 10
[14:29] <BluesKaj> yup, quite linux friendly in terms of HW drivers etc
[14:30] <clayorn> true
[14:32] <BluesKaj> also using a Lenovo G500 laptop which is linux friendly too ..more so than the pc in some ways
[14:34] <clayorn> think pads are nice
[14:34] <clayorn> 10 is very nice for microsoft
[14:35] <BluesKaj> W7 was my fav
[14:35] <clayorn> as is mine
[14:35] <clayorn> still is
[14:35] <clayorn> male or female?
[14:35] <clayorn> im a dude
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Wife still runs it...her pc is the same as mine
[14:37] <BluesKaj> as mopposed to dudette ? :-)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> opposed  rather
[14:38] <clayorn> im a male
[14:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, kinda figured
[14:40] <clayorn> lol
[14:42] <clayorn> do you like rush?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> some of their later stuff yeah, but the earlier albums not so much, couldn't handle Geddy Lee's voice until he dropped it a couple of octaves
[14:45] <clayorn> i get that answer from lots of people
[14:45] <clayorn> im an old rush fan
[14:45] <clayorn> im 50
[14:47] <BluesKaj> I'm older by quite a few yrs, retired etc
[14:47] <clayorn> im working
[14:47] <clayorn> local collage
[14:47] <clayorn> roll the bones
[14:48] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:48] <clayorn> why are we here cos we are here roll the bones
[14:49] <BluesKaj> oh
[14:54] <clayorn> saw them in 08
[14:54] <clayorn> loved that show
[14:58] <BluesKaj> never seen them live except on TV
[15:04] <clayorn> bummer
[15:08] <BluesKaj> seen quite few bands from the 60's & 70's, then we had kids, so that kind of kept us busy
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ok, gonna boot into bionic ...see you on the other side
[16:14] <DarinMiller_> acheronuk: plasma 5.95 and fw 5.42 is running fineon my work laptop (seems to boot faster than similar config with Neon, but need to directly compare Neon to Kubuntu on my laptop at home.)
[16:15] <acheronuk> DarinMiller_: cool.


[06:40] <nmb> Any devs awake who could take a look at bug 1019954 ?
[06:41] <nmb> It seems like the PathFilteringTransport that is used in the server jail is not letting the RemoteBzrDir access the paths at .bzr/branches, but I can't quite track down why.
[08:08] <mgz> morning!
[10:51] <vila> jelmer: the fix for weave I mentioned last week is up for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~vila/bzr/1020007-branchformat4-lock/+merge/113014
[10:53] <jelmer> vila: cool, I'll have a look
[11:05] <jelmer> vila: r=me
[11:06] <jelmer> now we just have to wait for python-launchpadlib to be uninstalled before it can land..
[11:07] <vila> urgh, you filed an RT for that ?
[11:08] <jelmer> vila: jam replied to the RT about installing it
[11:08] <jelmer> vila: 54023
[11:09] <vila> cool, thanks
[11:11] <vila> oooh, the pkg_resources warning popping its ugly head, good, hopefully this will help address this mess ;)
[11:12] <jelmer> vila: well, if we just uninstall python-launchpadlib that won't really address the issue
[11:12] <vila> indeed, but someone may get more incentive to fix the root issue (which has always be a total mystery for me)
[11:15] <jimis> hi, how can I checkout only specific files from my +junk repo into current dir?
[11:25] <jimis> For now I'm using "bzr checkout lp:~user/+junk/dir ."
[11:25] <jimis> but it brings all files so it's a bit of a mess
[11:26] <mgz> go back a step, what are you actually trying to do?
[11:27] <jimis> fetch a script of mine into a cgi-bin directory
[11:27] <jimis> but I don't need all the rest
[11:28] <jimis> hmmm I'll work around that by fetching elsewhere and hard-linking
[11:29] <jimis> if you think of a way to checkout a file in bzr please let me know, I'll be back in a while
[11:29] <mgz> that's a reasonable approach
[11:30] <jelmer> jimis: bzr cat can do that for you
[11:30] <jelmer> bzr cat -d lp:~user/+junk/dir name-of-file > name-of-file
[11:30] <mgz> then chmod, then try and remember not to edit the file
[11:30] <mgz> having an actual branch and a link is better
[11:31] <mgz> partial checkouts into an existing dir would have a worse problem,
[11:32] <jelmer> I guess views could in theory do this for you?
[11:32] <mgz> you'd have files both in the repo and the current dir that the vcs has no idea how to sync
[11:33] <mgz> views would work provided the local dir was kept clean
[11:36] <mgz> I'm not sure if they actually do anything useful with the tree though
[11:39] <mgz> right, they just affect what bzr sees, not what's on disk
[11:40] <mgz> jelmer: bug 1001169 is a dupe of bug 413430
[11:41] <jelmer> mgz: marked as such
[11:42] <mgz> ta
[12:22] <jimis> jelmer: with bzr cat I wouldn't be able to update
[12:23] <jimis> mgz: local dir not clean, but thanks anyway
[12:23] <jimis> I'll follow the link way :-)
[12:24] <jelmer> jimis: you can just rerun the command to update
[12:27] <jimis> jelmer: that wouldn't merge my local differences :-p
[12:27] <jelmer> jimis: true
[12:28] <jimis> (some values are set on top of the script)
[15:25] <jelmer> vila: could I tempt you to do a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr/branchfmt/+merge/100220 ?
[15:29] <vila> jelmer: hmm, yet another branch with bzrlib/tests/per_branch/test_bound_sftp.py.THIS where are you getting that from ?
[15:30] <vila> jelmer: note the final '.THIS'
[15:31] <vila> jelmer: and by 'another' I mean I already encounter that in one of those suspicious merges I mentioned last week
[15:34] <jelmer> vila: hmm, I'm not sure... it must have been from a long time ago
[15:35] <vila> the scary bit is that that kind of file comes from a conflict and resolving the conflict should delete it...
[15:37] <jelmer> I guess I had a local change to it at some point..
[15:42] <vila> introduced in lp:bzr at revno 6503 removed at 6519 (guess who committed them ;)
[15:43] <vila> so, no harm done on trunk (also 2.6b1 apparently was released with it), but it would be nice if you could kill for good ;)
[15:47] <vila> jelmer: reviewed as needs info, please enlighten me ;)
[16:10] <jelmer> vila: commented
[16:17] <vila> jelmer: So, this is about reducing branch.py size ? Will that really make a difference on startup ?
[16:29] <jelmer> vila: a bit - it also makes it easier to move the rest of this stuff out into a oldfmt plugin or something like that
[16:30] <jelmer> and it simplifies the overall amount of code in branch.py, which should make it easier to read
[16:34] <vila> hmm, right, would be nice to put your explanations in branchfmt/__init__.py then or newcomers will have a hard time understanding the in-progress layout
[16:44] <jelmer> vila: is that really necessary? We don't have something like that for repofmt either
[16:46] <vila> jelmer: repository.py and repofmt are more cleanly separated, you're not there yet with branchfmt, so my review is: please add comments. It will take you less time than trying to convince me to not put them :)
[16:46]  * vila off to dentist
[18:57] <mgz> heh
[18:58] <mgz> Jelme is so fast he lost his 'r'
[18:58] <mgz> "it's part of bzrtools" is an increasingly bad answer
[19:03] <jelmer> using the R hurts my throat too much :P
[19:03] <mgz> it's been rolled too much.
[19:04]  * mgz bounces bug 1019984 on again
[19:05] <mgz> maybe looks like bzr-git should override the dulwich SSHVendor with that from bzrlib?
[19:14] <jelmer> mgz: I guess that would be an option
[19:43] <Noldorin> heh
[19:43] <Noldorin> push issue again with bzr-git eh!
[19:43] <Noldorin> jelmer: does that tempt you to fix the other dpush issue while you're at it? ;)
[19:46] <jelmer> Noldorin: as berfore, patches welcome :)
[19:46] <Noldorin> jelmer: still can't persuade you damnit
[19:46] <Noldorin> lol
[19:46] <Noldorin> i only mention this again because someone is using my git mirror now, :P
[19:46] <Noldorin> and it's annoying
[19:47] <Noldorin> you know that a) i don't understand the codebase very well, b) i'm shit at python, c) i don't have the time...
[19:47] <Noldorin> jelmer: but you said you'd get on it if someone paid you ha
[19:47] <Noldorin> maybe i should find out how much now lol
[19:50] <jelmer> Noldorin: I don't really have the time either (or rather, I choose to spend my spare time on other things)
[19:50] <Noldorin> yes i know
[19:50] <Noldorin> you've said before...
[19:50] <Noldorin> but a) and b) are true still ;)
[19:50] <Noldorin> hence why i asked if someone paid you heh...
[19:50] <jelmer> Noldorin: I'm not the one bringing it up again..
[19:51] <jelmer> :)
[19:51] <Noldorin> hmm i think you misunderstand
[19:51] <Noldorin> i'm not criticising you here
[19:51] <Noldorin> language barrier perhaps. never mind :)
[19:54] <mgz> window not having an ssh binary and bzr push not updating working tree aren't really bzr-git related
[19:54] <Noldorin> not what i'm talking about though
[19:57] <mgz> the thing with pet bugs is only you can care for them properly.
[19:59] <jelmer> mgz: bug 1019984 is definitely not a dulwich bug though
[20:00] <jelmer> mgz: dulwich shouldn't know about bzr's SSHVendor
[20:00] <jelmer> I'll reassign it to bzr-git
[20:00] <mgz> well, arguably dulwich should have a less lame SSHVendor
[20:00] <mgz> but I agree bzr-git is probably the easiest place to fix it
[20:01] <mgz> if I ever get downstairs I'll give it a go.
[20:01] <jelmer> mgz: I would argue that bzr's SSHVendor is the lamer one to be honest
[20:02] <mgz> it works on windows though! mostly...
[20:03] <jelmer> dulwich support for paramiko would be ace too
[20:03] <jelmer> that's quite different from monkeypatching bzr's SSHVendor into Dulwich though
[20:06] <mgz> right.
[20:06] <mgz> the code in dulwich seems to encourage monkey patching
[20:06] <mgz> I'm not sure if that was the intention.
[20:10] <jelmer> sortof, it was meant to allow bzr to plug in its own ssh thingies
[20:10] <jelmer> and mercurial
[20:42] <Noldorin> hah
[20:42] <Noldorin> oh well
[20:42] <Noldorin> jelmer ignores me now
[20:42] <Noldorin> can't even pay him ;)
[20:42] <Noldorin> byew
[20:49] <jelmer> Noldorin: ?
[20:49] <jelmer> Noldorin: what did I ignore?
[20:50] <wgz> jelmer: what else apart from dpush depends on that SSHVendor in dulwich?
[20:50] <wgz> just doing info and branch seem to work here anyway
[20:50] <jelmer> wgz: fetching over ssh depends on it as well
[20:51] <jelmer> wgz: you probably have ssh.exe installed?
[20:51] <wgz> my terminal claims not...
[20:52] <wgz> and I use plink normally and have bzr configured to use that
[20:52] <jelmer> bzr-git might already be inserting the ssh vendor
[20:52] <jelmer> there is some code there
[20:53] <wgz> is there a -D I can pass that will tell me what bzr-git is up to with transports?
[20:54] <jelmer> wgz: it doesn't really use transports, except for a dummy GitTransport
[20:58] <wgz> okay, I can repo with branch git+ssh
[21:44] <Noldorin> jelmer: read above ;)
[22:18] <Noldorin> jelmer: though i guess we can't even pay you these days hehe


[00:00] <jeremy31> sneakyimp1: The default should be fine as long as there is some unused space
[00:04] <sneakyimp1> jeremy31: what's with all these /dev/loopN things?
[00:05] <sarnold> probably snapd
[00:05] <sarnold> try 'mount', it will probably show a few squashfs images
[00:10] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: :d .. To see the disk space usage ' df -h ' .
[00:12] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: all kinds of /dev/loopN cluttering up the output....what is that?
[00:13] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: Mist like "snap" containers.
[00:23] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: but whyyyyy is it mucking up my drive listing?
[00:24] <sneakyimp1> when generating an ssh key pair, is 4096 bits still good? I.e., ssh-keygen -b 4096
[00:24] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: pastenin the outputs, we know exactly what you are seeing, please.
[00:24] <Bashing-om> pastebin*
[00:25] <sarnold> sneakyimp1: yeah, 4096 is still believed to be safe for rsa
[00:25] <pragmaticenigma> or use ed25519
[00:25] <sarnold> sneakyimp1: you could also use -t ed25519 to use newer ecc crypto
[00:26] <sarnold> sneakyimp1: but that requires servers to be new enough to support it
[00:35] <sneakyimp1> sarnold: thx for detail
[00:37] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: checkit...so many loopN thingamajigs https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/msjyCPttFk/
[00:37] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: looking.
[00:39] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: Yup - snaps . Did you install them ?
[00:40] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: they must have come with the OS
[00:40] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: no idea what snaps are
[00:43] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: I do not do snaps - as of yet. They are the new packaging format to support IoT. I can boot up a default 18.04 ubuntu if I must to compare.
[00:44] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: I *just* installed Ubuntu 18.04 and these came with. I'm guessing I have no need for them? Should I remove?
[00:45] <Bashing-om> !snap | sneakyimp1
[00:46] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: Not enough experience here to guide on removing snaps. Though I know it can be done.
[00:47] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: what a nuisance
[00:47] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: Lemme reboot into ubuntu 18.04 and see what I have there to compare.
[00:47] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: word to the wise -- choose 'minimal install' option when installing U18.04
[00:48] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: I appreciate that. I have installed exactly one app since the ubuntu 18.04 install finished -- pidgin (program I'm using to chat here)
[00:48] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: I'm guessing it might be some of the 'useful apps' that you get when you opt to have RhythmBox and that kinda stuff
[00:48] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: My daily driver is a "roll my own" from a core install :)
[00:52] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: "inquiring minds want to know" . I re-boot and we compare :) Will mot take that long to back out of here and into ubuntu.
[00:53] <tomreyn> i think you can safely remove all snaps but the core* and gnome-3-* ones
[00:54] <tomreyn> or all of them if you don't run the default gnome desktop
[00:55] <sneakyimp1> tomreyn: I am in fact running whatever GUI comes with Ubuntu Desktop 18.04.02
[00:58] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: Yup ! Them "snap" containers are also on my 18.04 ubuntu install: https://termbin.com/zgii .
[01:00] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: ARGGG. barf-o
[01:02] <Bashing-om> sneakyimp1: Uh Huh - Reminds me why I now prefer a minimal install - and only install what I actually want :P
[01:03] <sneakyimp1> Bashing-om: yep i'll probably go minimal install next time
[01:04] <sneakyimp1> sooooo if i want to copy files over my ethernet from one ubuntu machine to another, is SSH the way to go? Assuming I don't have a drive big enough?
[01:05] <deltab> yes, using either scp or rsync
[01:06] <deltab> rsync -Paviz some-files me@othermachine:targetdir
[01:08] <deltab> leave off -z if the files are compressed
[01:10] <deltab> the other options: keep partial files and show progress, set file attributes, verbose, itemize files
[01:11] <deltab> rsync checks the existing files at the target and only transfers the data that's missing
[01:11] <sneakyimp1> deltab: thanks for detail.
[01:33] <k_sze> The Kubuntu installer seems to have overwritten my EFI to search for /boot on a newly created partition on my secondary SSD (because I chose to install on my secondary SSD when I launched the Kubuntu installer). My old /boot on my primary SSD still seems intact. What's the safe and correct way to fix EFI so it looks for my old /boot on my primary SSD again?
[01:34] <k_sze> This is what I see in my /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg: https://bpaste.net/show/LURj
[01:34] <k_sze> The UUID is the new /boot particition on my secondary SSD.
[01:35] <sarnold> k_sze: hmm, did you run into this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1396379
[01:37] <k_sze> sarnold, I think so.
[01:38] <k_sze> When I launched the Kubuntu installer, I specifically told it to wipe and use my secondary SSD, in the hopes that it would not touch whatever is on my primary SSD.
[01:40] <sarnold> :(
[01:40] <simian93> I finally got my hands on the touchscreen I wanted and now Ubuntu on-screen keyboard doesn't appear at all.  I enabled it and followed the instructions but can't figure out why it doesn't work
[01:40] <k_sze> My primary SSD has my Ubuntu 18.04 root partition in LUKS.
[01:40] <k_sze> And my secondary SSH has this new Kubuntu 19.04 root partition in LUKS.
[01:45] <simian93> no there it works in the only place ubuntu tracks your typing for amazon.  WHat a bucket of loser broke useless functionality
[01:45] <k_sze> shit.. so that's a 4+ year bug that's still not fixed. :(
[01:46] <simian93> bout time I switched off ubuntu anyway
[01:46] <simian93> useless
[01:49] <tomreyn> this may be bug 1396379
[01:51] <tomreyn> oh this was previously posted, ok
[01:52] <sarnold> a second opinion is always nice though :)
[01:57] <tomreyn> Since it seems so well known, maybe it could just be listed in the release notes as a known bug, so it doesn't need to be fixed before the new new installer comes.
[01:57] <k_sze> thankfully there are fixes and workarounds posted on that thread.
[01:57] <sarnold> tomreyn: good idea
[01:57] <k_sze> Especially the bottom half of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1396379/comments/8
[01:58] <k_sze> So I can restore EFI to the previous state and at least get back my completely working Ubuntu 18.04.
[01:59] <k_sze> (I don't have time to customise and soup up my new Kubuntu install just now.)
[01:59] <k_sze> need to get work done.
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:14] <littleDJ> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 19.04 and for some reason the .minecraft directory is empty. This is weird because I have successfully ran the latest version of Minecraft so it should have files in it. Please help, thanks. :)
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> littleDJ: compare with this: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[05:19] <littleDJ> Thanks, I'll check it out!
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> littleDJ: see also snap find minecraft
[05:20] <littleDJ> Snap doesn't seem to be able to find Minecraft.
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> littleDJ: mc-installer               4.1                      kz6fittycent     -      Minecraft Downloader and Installer looks useful
[05:21] <littleDJ> I'm using mc-installer already.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> ah
[05:22] <littleDJ> I can't figure out why there is nothing in the .minecraft directory.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> littleDJ: maybe check the snaps maintainer? snap info mc-installer (contact area)
[05:23] <littleDJ> k, one sec
[05:27] <littleDJ> I went ahead and asked the people of Reddit to see if they could help.
[05:43] <CatPasswd> just use multimc
[05:55] <hortiel> I have a question.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> you can ask it hortiel
[05:56] <hortiel> sudo ufw enable; sudo iptables -S ; still shows no rules of ufw, as if iptables is isolated and is not affected by ufw ?? earlier in 2016 it was different , ufw changed iptables ??
[05:57] <hortiel> does ufw act independently of iptables?
[05:58] <hortiel>  systemctl is-enabled iptables.service
[05:58] <hortiel> disabled
[06:00] <EriC^^> hortiel: try adding a rule using ufw?
[06:00] <hortiel> ufw enable is what I do best
[06:00] <hortiel> what about your pc ; i want to know how does your iptables react to ufw enable?
[06:00] <EriC^^> i dont think that does much if anything
[06:01] <EriC^^> it adds a bunch of stuff
[06:01] <EriC^^> iptables -L https://termbin.com/sayp
[06:02] <EriC^^> ubuntu 16.04 here
[06:03] <hortiel> what does systemctl is-enable iptables.service say?
[06:03] <hortiel> *is-enabled
[06:11] <blackflow> hortiel: iptables.service does not belong to ufw. ufw.service does. And ufw is a wrapper to iptables.
[06:11] <hortiel> ok
[06:11] <blackflow> infact, I don't think iptables.service belongs to any package, that must be something custom you have there
[06:16] <EriC^^> hortiel: Failed to get unit file state for iptables.service: No such file or directory
[06:18] <hortiel> EriC^^: also I had old unbuntu16.x and didn't want to download ubuntu19.x and I saw internet wifi option was missing , so I had this question of connecting wifi using 16.x ? how
[06:18] <hortiel> in particular without using wpa_supplicant or other harder cmds.
[06:19] <EriC^^> no gui?
[06:19] <hortiel> yes gui
[06:19] <hortiel> no gui there is no option to connect enable wifi button, but the difficult one that say edit connection,etc
[06:20] <hortiel> there is gui, but don't know how to interpret it to enable wifi, as no direct way
[06:20] <hortiel> I tried and failed, feel stupid
[06:40] <blackflow> what on earth are they talking about....
[07:40] <nils_> Hi, is there a preferred way to store or persist netfilter / nftables rules?
[07:43] <blackflow> nils_: isn't there a service that does that?
[07:45] <nils_> blackflow, I'm looking at netfilter-persistent, I'm not sure that it does anything.
[07:46] <blackflow> nils_: no, that package is weird. you have to write hooks for nftables, for netfilter-persistent, while there's already a hook for iptables-persistent. for nftables, there should be a service for it, but I forgot which package provides it.
[07:46] <nils_> documentation says it executes the plugins from /usr/share/netfilter-persistent/plugins.d but there are no plugins, maybe they are provided by something else.
[07:46] <blackflow> well duh! nftables.service from nftables package
[07:46] <blackflow> !info nftables
[07:47] <blackflow> nils_: no, you have to write your own if you wanna use netfilter-persistent
[07:47] <blackflow> is a mess alright.
[07:48] <nils_> blackflow, thanks, I didn't realize it comes with a systemd unit, I can work with that.
[07:52] <nils_> blackflow, seems to me everyone is still on iptables these days or going straight to BPF.
[07:55] <blackflow> nils_: yeah. I use iptables, don't see a need to switch to nftables. There's talk about EBPF-based firewall in the (near?) future replacing nftables... so...
[08:09] <Trieste> Hey, I'm having trouble with Evince, it just doesn't print - the printer acts for a moment as if it's receiving data, then does nothing. I'd be troubleshooting CUPS and/or the printer if it weren't for the fact that Okular works perfectly fine on the same machine. Is there something about Evince that I might be forgetting to run? Some GNOME-specific print service? (I'm on i3)
[08:11] <blackflow> Trieste: you should still check CUPS for any error log entries first. Could be malformed PS packet from Evince, or something like that.
[08:22] <Trieste> blackflow, nothing in CUPS error log, the http interface simply shows the job as "Completed"
[08:33] <Trieste> Firefox, which calls up the same GTK print dialog, also works...
[09:02] <lapion> How do I lock multi screen settings in such a way that the system doesn't have to reset everything each time the system wakes up from screen power-saving ?
[09:27] <berphi__> Hello, I'm new to packaging my own software for ubuntu. after packaging and installing the package (contains a little hello-world python script) I try to execute it. It says "command not found". What am I doing wrong??
[09:29] <jeremy31> berphi__: did you use chmod +x on the file to make it executable?
[09:29] <berphi__> yes, I did
[09:30] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[09:30] <jeremy31> berphi, using ./command
[09:31] <CountryfiedLinux> My Xbox One controller seems to work in Steam configuration, but in Saints Row 4 it doesn't work at all. Any suggestions? The game supposedly has full controller support.
[09:31] <CountryfiedLinux> I have another game installing while I troubleshoot this issue.
[09:34] <sits> Hi there, has anyone been seeing trouble after the latest docker update in Xenial/Bionic?
[09:35] <sits> I tried searching the mailing lists and launchpad yesterday but didn't find anyone else seeing an issue
[09:39] <Jubei> good day. I created an LVM volume, copied my entire root filesystem there and now I'm trying to boot from it. I have configured an entry in grub but despite the entry being /dev/volume_group0/logical_volume0 when booting completes the root volume is still mounted in /dev/sdbX
[09:39] <CountryfiedLinux> It's the game. An Xbox One controller not working with a game that has full controller support.
[09:40] <CountryfiedLinux> Perhaps I should just use my Xbox One controller for Game Pass and forget Steam.
[09:40] <sits> Jubei: you may need to run update-grub and also update your /etc/fstab (be careful though)
[09:42] <jeremy31> CountryfiedLinux: You might want to ask Steam support
[09:42] <berphi__> jeremy31: I created the python file, so that I can execute with ./my_script.. after that I use "bzr dh-make" to get the debian folder with all the meta data. after that I use "bzr builddeb -- -us -uc" to package it and "sudo gdebi -n <package>.deb to install it
[09:43] <geirha> dpkg -L <package>   to see what files it installed
[09:43] <berphi__> however, I didn't create a Makefile or anything like that.. I just have the "debian-folder" and my python-script.. is something missing? I can't see, WHERE it is installed after using "gdebi"
[09:44] <jeremy31> berphi__: you can try the find or locate commands
[09:44] <berphi__> geirha: ahh, ok. it says /usr/share..
[09:45] <geirha> You probably need to create a setup.py that specifies that python script is supposed to be installed as a command
[09:46] <berphi__> geirha: yes, I think you are right, I'll take a look at how to create a proper setup.py!
[09:46] <berphi__> jeremy31: locate works as well, thank you
[09:47] <Nakato> I'm tring to file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-snap and I'm getting an "Oops!" "Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad." 500.   Is launchpad having issues, or should I be submitting it elsewhere?
[09:53] <Jubei> sits thank you I'll try that
[09:55] <jeremy31> Nakato: Server might be busy, try again later
[10:00] <Nakato> It's failed multiple times, and it fails instantly, so I don't know.  I'm pretty frustrated and about to just mail security instead of dealing with LP.
[10:00] <Nakato> Is there an IRC channel for LP, I didn't see it on the list.
[10:00] <jeremy31> #launchpad
[10:01] <cyberpolice> how dangerous is it to extract a very large gzip (256gb) on ubuntu?
[10:01] <cyberpolice> will it freeze/hang
[10:02] <Nakato> Thanks
[10:03] <cyberpolice> am asking because i tried to extract this gz file in windows and it completely froze after some time and i had to hard power off
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> Nakato: did you use ubuntu-bug packagename for creating the bug?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> hey cfhowlett ; )
[10:34] <rory> cyberpolice: it shouldn't hang the whole system. But you may need lots of free disk space. you should use "tar" application on cli.
[10:34] <cfhowlett> yowza ^3 lotuspsychje
[10:35] <sits> cyberpolice: I'm afraid the answer is it depends. The machine and where the archive is being packed to are the significant factors
[10:35] <rory> cyberpolice: it will probably hammer your disk too
[10:36] <sits> cyberpolice: e.g. over where I am we unpack 100s of gigabytes of data but the machines have lots of RAM and fast disks
[10:36] <sits> rory: depends on where its unpacked to right?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> 256GB packed file(s) is just insane in my opinion
[10:38] <sits> lotuspsychje: I think that depends entirely on the context
[10:38] <rory> sits: yeah if you're extracting it to the same disk it's stored on, it will be laggier. and if it contains very many small files, it would be slower than fewer large files, probably
[10:38] <sits> rory: I'm in total agreement
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> sits: feel free to share in #ubuntu-discuss what you guys pack 100gb for?
[10:39] <sits> lotuspsychje: machine learning workloads
[10:44] <Nakato> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure what the package name would be.  It's in the build tooling for https://snapcraft.io/pc-kernel
[10:45] <Nakato> I've ended up submitted it to 'snap-core18'.  The LP channel helped me figure out what the oops was, which was the package name.
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> Nakato: for snaps, you cant use launchpad i think, see snap info pc-kernel for the contact
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> Nakato: in this its canonical, but still i dont think they use launchpad for this project
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> *case
[10:52] <Nakato> Is there a place I can get that without running `snap`?  I can't hit the snapcraft api where I have snap installed.
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> Nakato: do you mean you cant trigger snap info?
[10:57] <Nakato> I cannot.  I'm firewalled off, and I found the bug when attempting to reproduce the build.
[10:57] <BluesKaj> nHi folks
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> Nakato: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DRMdrtD699/
[11:00] <Nakato> lotuspsychje: Thanks for that!  I'll use that if the launchpad bug does not pan out.
[11:08] <cyberpolice> sits: actually its a 91 gb gz file that contains a dd image of 256gb ssd
[11:09] <cyberpolice> sits: i used dd if=/dev/sda | gz -c file.img.gz, or something close to that
[11:09] <rory> just uncompress it with gzip then
[11:09] <rory> it will not lag your system too much, as it's a single-threaded operation.
[11:10] <cyberpolice> yes i tried, and it died in windows, and had to hard shut off (causing who knows what damage the disk that it was on, and being extracted to). and afraid same thing will happen on ubuntu
[11:10] <cyberpolice> was it a bad idea to gzip the image
[11:10] <sits> cyberpolice: Yeah - ideally you wouldn't have compressed it
[11:11] <sits> cyberpolice: hindsight etc.
[11:11] <cyberpolice> i dont know why archwiki suggests it
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> this is ubuntu support
[11:11] <sits> cyberpolice: runs of zeros often compress well
[11:12] <absence> how do i disable the touchpad while typing?
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> absence: there's an option in systemsettings & gnome-tweak-tool
[11:13] <sits> bounded
[11:14] <absence> lotuspsychje: is systemsettings the thing called "Settings"? nothing there under mouse & touchpad
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> absence: yeah my bad, only in gnome-tweak-tools
[11:15] <sits> cyberpolice: my comment was eaten. You should be OK if your system has enough resources etc.
[11:15] <sits> cyberpolice: but I'd avoid using a GUI tool and be careful about where you unpack it to
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> absence: and also in dconf-editor
[11:16] <absence> lotuspsychje: thanks, found it. but odd, it's already on
[11:18] <cyberpolice> sits: ok, thanks! ill try it
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> absence: maybe its something else you need? why did you need to disable it, anything happen?
[11:20] <absence> lotuspsychje: i accidentally do stuff with the touchpad while typing, because i unconsciously rest my hands on it
[11:20] <absence> or near it, and brush against it with my fingers
[11:20] <absence> or something
[11:20] <absence> random stuff happens :)
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> yeah my gf has the same issue, i disabled touchpad totaly there, working with a wireless mouse now
[11:32] <BluesKaj> isn't there an option to disable the touchpad during keystrokes?
[12:01] <rapidwave> What is the name of Qt dev package on Ubuntu?
[12:01] <rapidwave> I need the include directory for CodeBlocks
[12:10] <tcpdump> I am running vsftpd on ubuntu. Ive configured it for anonymous upload but when I try to access it via ftp it prompts for credentials. Anyone have any idea what to adjust? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MT8r5KssM7/ - config
[12:18] <dnegreira> tcpdump: ftp always prompts for credentials you can insert anonymous - anonymous and should log you in
[12:20] <tcpdump> dnegreira: yes sir, Ive tried that, too.  :/
[12:20] <tomreyn> lines 46-65 repeat in lines 78-97 - copy paste issues?
[12:21] <tomreyn> anon_upload_enable is unset, i expect it to default to NO
[12:22] <tomreyn> write_enable is unset, i expect it to default to NO
[12:22] <tcpdump> tomreyn: let me review
[12:22] <tcpdump> probably... if there's one thing I love about Fedora its fpaste. :D
[12:22] <tomreyn> look for vsftpd documentation on how to configure anyonymous uploads, adjust your configuration, try again.
[12:23] <tomreyn> fedora?
[12:23] <tomreyn> oh, we have !pastebinit on ubuntu
[12:23] <tomreyn> !pastebinit
[12:25] <tcpdump> thanks
[12:25] <tcpdump> Do I need to open port 20 as well?  based on this - connect_from_port_20=YES
[12:28] <tomreyn> this would mean the ftp server would itself initiatie connections from (fixed) port 20 towards the 'client' in active mode
[12:29] <tomreyn> are you familiar with why ftp is often considered a terrible protocol whose use should be prevented or restricted to a minimum then?
[12:29] <tomreyn> had you considered alternatives such as sftp, https?
[12:31] <tcpdump> tomreyn: Im making an intentionally compromised server for a CTF event.
[12:31] <tcpdump> So this is perfect! :D
[12:31] <JimBuntu> anonymous FTP still asks for username/password, tcpdump , are you saying that anonymous isn't working? Have you restarted the service after making config changes?
[12:32] <tcpdump> JimBuntu: thats all correct. Having said that, tomreyn pointed out I may have my config messed up. Im reviewing it now.
[12:32] <tomreyn> i see, now ftp makes a lot more sense.
[12:32] <JimBuntu> tcpdump, if making a CTF device, please don't forget telnet :-)
[12:36] <siodor> hello everyone, I've just updated my Ubuntu VM and now where the login screen should be there's a purple screen, after several reboots sometimes it has the Ubuntu logo in the bottom middle
[12:37] <rapidwave> What is the Cross GCC path?
[12:37] <siodor> I've booted into recovery mode assuming that there's some graphics problem, some guides recommend to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and unity but I can't even get there because DNS resolution in console doesn't work
[12:38] <siodor> Google didn't gave me any good advise
[12:39] <siodor> By the way pinging something in the Internet like <IP_ADDRESS> works, I've added to /etc/systemd/resolved.conf the public Google DNS <IP_ADDRESS> but that doesn't help at all
[12:41] <siodor> the file /etc/resolv.conf doesn't have any nameserver entries, also not the systemd-resolve which should be <IP_ADDRESS>, it's just mentioned in a descriptive text in the file
[12:41] <tomreyn> siodor: i need to leave for now, but you should discuss the virtualization type / software (and host OS) you're using (adding version numbers wont hurt), and the ubuntu version (and variant, architecture), whether you host OS and virtualization are fully updated.
[12:42] <tomreyn> and whether they are known to support this guest OS.
[12:42] <siodor> My Ubuntu VM worked perfectly before I've ran the suggested updates
[12:43] <siodor> It's Ubuntu 18.04 on VMWare Workstation 15.1.0 running on Windows 10 1809
[12:43] <tcpdump> later tomreyn thanks!
[12:47] <tcpdump> Alright, here's my vsftpd.conf file - still cant get anonymous ftp to work...  Anyone else see anything Im missing?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZbB6YPZZPR/
[12:55] <CatPasswd> siodor: check /etc/nsswitch.conf for the hosts: line
[12:55] <CatPasswd> I had to change mine the other day. Couldn't connect to anything, anywhere, by name. Just like you
[12:56] <CatPasswd> The old line is like this: #hosts:          files [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname mdns4_minimal
[12:56] <CatPasswd> I changed it to this: hosts:		files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname
[12:56] <CatPasswd> And it worked
[12:56] <kdbNL> hello everyone, could someone help me out with determining if my SSD is broken
[12:56] <kdbNL> Gparted shows /dev/sda 238 GB gnome disk shows 256GB
[12:57] <CatPasswd> kdbNL: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-check-ssd-health-in-linux/
[12:57] <kdbNL> its LVM by ubuntu base install
[12:57] <kdbNL> thanks ill check it out
[12:57] <kdbNL> but i think its partitioned wrong, i know its old already
[12:57] <kdbNL> i dont understand why gparted would report a different size
[13:03] <kdbNL> thanks for the smartctl information, i did the scan, it shows my ssd as the correct size and in the database. it passed self-health check.
[13:04] <kdbNL> is gparted just unable to deal with lvm? is it normal for ubuntu base install to just do 1 giant /root VG and a 1GB /swap_1 ?
[13:06] <tibyke> moin
[13:06] <tibyke> any idea on network-manager vs openvpn lz4 compresion?
[13:12] <siodor> CatPasswd, I've just added a nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> entry into the /etc/resolv.conf file to temporarely having apt-get function properly
[13:12] <siodor> As for the purple frozen login screen, this fixed it for me https://askubuntu.com/questions/1149957/unable-to-login-to-account-in-ubuntu-18-04-vmware-workstation-15-after-update
[13:14] <cgi> Seems like python 3.7.4 compilation on ubuntu 18.04 needs manual ssl compilation. Are there any workarounds for this - Python requires an OpenSSL 1.0.2 or 1.1 compatible libssl with X509_VERIFY_PARAM_set1_host().
[13:16] <macroprep_> how do i install java
[13:16] <macroprep_> E: Unable to locate package java
[13:19] <tibyke> apt-cache search openjdk
[13:22] <macroprep_> ok
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[14:00] <OerHeks> sqirt, no need to post that
[14:35] <parak0vsky> just upgraded my cpu to i7 in a laptop any idea what i can use this horsepower for?
[14:35] <parak0vsky> except to put 32gb of the memory lol
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> parak0vsky: only ubuntu questions here please
[14:42] <NixNixDicPix> Does anyone know how I would use find to display all unmodified files from the last 30 days
[14:42] <NixNixDicPix> without showing directory?
[14:45] <leftyfb> NixNixDicPix: man find is your best help. Look into -f and -mtime
[14:47] <OerHeks> find /path/to/files -mtime n #where  +n     for greater than n, -n     for less than n, n      for exactly n.
[14:47] <edgy> Hi, I got a server with firewall confiugred as in https://bpaste.net/show/VUxK , It's not mentioned that port 8983 is open in the firewall but I can access it via the browser and also verified using nmap! what's wrong here? the server is using firewalld I guess
[14:48] <zanshin> `find -type f -newermt "2019-06-10 00:00:00" \! -newermt "2019-07-10 00:00:00"` - still shows the directory tho
[14:48] <edgy> https://bpaste.net/show/Ffr3
[14:50] <NixNixDicPix> zanshin is there not flag to drop showing directories
[14:50] <NixNixDicPix> because that otherwise would be a perfect command
[14:52] <edgy> NixNixDicPix: I am not sure what's your question but -type f would drop directories
[14:53] <adrian_1908> edgy: Can you share the output of `iptables -S`?
[14:54] <edgy> adrian_1908: sure: https://bpaste.net/show/uBHk
[14:55] <NixNixDicPix> Give me a single command that will find all files not modified in the last 30 days under `/tmp/etl_landingzone/`  Note: The output should only include files not directories.
[14:55] <NixNixDicPix> this was the actual question
[14:55] <adrian_1908> edgy: do you use some intermediate tool, or what's the reason for there being so many iptables chains?
[14:56] <tarzeau> NixNixDicPix: -type f is part of the answer for the find command
[14:57] <NixNixDicPix> yeah that drops the directories
[14:57] <NixNixDicPix> Im reading
[14:57] <Mathisen> NixNixDicPix, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23070245/get-all-files-modified-in-last-30-days-in-a-directory
[14:57] <tarzeau> the rest depends on if you have mtime on your filesystem
[14:57] <edgy> adrian_1908: yes, this is virtualmin control panel defaults
[14:57] <edgy> adrian_1908: I also know that firewalld comes with all these default zones
[14:58] <NixNixDicPix> thats wrong that shows modified
[14:58] <NixNixDicPix> I been there
[14:59] <edgy> adrian_1908: I am not familiar with firewalld but is there any thing fishy in that output like missing a reject rule for the remaining ports?
[15:00] <adrian_1908> edgy: It's a bit difficult to reason about the firewall with all those chains. I could imagine one of them being responsible for the port being open. Have you tried listening to another random port to see if the problem applies in general?
[15:01] <edgy> adrian_1908: in my case where I am asking only about an incoming port should I only care about the IN_public_allow
[15:02] <Mathisen> NixNixDicPix, then just change the line.... and use - instead of + on the time/date you want
[15:03] <Mathisen> using that example on the page would be -30 instead of +30
[15:03] <adrian_1908> edgy: yes, that alone would suffice. But I doubt you're able to remove the other chains, are you?
[15:05] <edgy> adrian_1908: I don't want to mess with the defaults. I just want to understand the issue
[15:05] <adrian_1908> edgy: or can you instruct virtualmin to leave the firewall rules to you? For most use cases, these should be simple enough.
[15:06] <edgy> adrian_1908: virtualmin by default figured out most of the open ports on the server and added it automatically to the firewalld, I can't understand what you meant by instruct virtualmin to leave rules for me
[15:07] <adrian_1908> edgy: I mean, tell virtualmin to stop setting firewall rules and do it yourself. Personally, I would much rather start with very simple rules and add what I need, instead of trying to decipher a complex ruleset someone else came up with.
[15:09] <OerHeks> or just use UFW on you *buntu
[15:09] <edgy> adrian_1908: yes, definitely I can do that but I want to get familiar gradually with firewalld since it has integration with fail2ban and other advanced features. It's more of learning than a problem that I need to solve
[15:11] <adrian_1908> edgy: I see. I would look in the documentation then, or see if you can find a community dedicated to that tool/framework.
[15:12] <adrian_1908> edgy: `-A IN_public_allow -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1025:65535 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT` your probably your culprit, so try to remove whatever sets that rule.
[15:12] <edgy> adrian_1908: excellent spot!
[15:13] <edgy> adrian_1908: I guess those are added for passive ftp
[15:15] <edgy> adrian_1908: yes! that fixed it. I am feeling stupid now :( Thanks a lot
[15:16] <adrian_1908> you're welcome :)
[15:20] <aesthe> I am having trouble with the ubuntu package xl2tpd_1.3.6+dfsg-4_amd64. I have noticed that it was last updated in 2015 and I would like to replace it with the version from Xelerance which last updated in April as shown here: https://github.com/xelerance/xl2tpd/releases Are there any issues that I should be aware of???
[15:22] <ash_worksi> I have a command `yq` ... not exactly sure how I installed it, but I would like to be able to do this: https://mikefarah.github.io/yq/merge/ ... how can I find out if what I have is the same application (if it is, I would think I need to update it because it doesn't seem to work)
[15:23] <lordcirth> ash_worksi, 'which yq'?
[15:24] <ash_worksi> lordcirth: /home/ash-m/.local/bin/yq
[15:24] <lordcirth> ash_worksi, sounds like you might have used pip
[15:25] <sneakyimp> Can anyone tell me what php7.2-dba provides?
[15:25] <ash_worksi> lordcirth: oh you're probably right
[15:25] <OerHeks>  1.3.6+dfsg-4ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> last updates (universe)	2018-07-30
[15:25] <OerHeks> not 1015
[15:25] <lordcirth> ash_worksi, 'pip list | grep yq'
[15:25] <sneakyimp> the description is pretty uninformative: "This package provides the DBA module(s) for PHP."
[15:25] <ash_worksi> DEPRECATION: The default format will switch to columns in the future. You can use --format=(legacy|columns) (or define a format=(legacy|columns) in your pip.conf under the [list] section) to disable this warning.
[15:26] <ash_worksi> and it's there
[15:27] <lordcirth> ash_worksi, so, 'pip install --upgrade yq'
[15:27] <lordcirth> perhaps with --user?
[15:27] <ash_worksi> lordcirth: well, this seems to have apt instructions... is there a way to tell if they're one and the same?
[15:29] <ash_worksi> oh no, this is a go package... should I uninstall yq through pip before attempting to install mikefarah/yq ?
[15:30] <lordcirth> that would be much less confusing, yes
[15:32] <ash_worksi> lordcirth: after `pip uninstall yq; ... apt install yq -y` I get: `bash: /home/ash-m/.local/bin/yq: No such file or directory
[15:32] <ash_worksi> I guess I need to logout?
[15:33] <lordcirth> ash_worksi, just get a new shell, eg by running 'bash'
[15:33] <becool> what's the better method for securely transferring files these days, SFTP or FTPS?
[15:34] <ash_worksi> neat
[15:34] <ash_worksi> thanks
[15:34] <lordcirth> becool, neither? Don't use FTP
[15:34] <becool> what should i use then?
[15:34] <lordcirth> becool, depends, what's the use case?
[15:35] <becool> transferring files from a client over the internet
[15:35] <lordcirth> scp or rsync are easy to set up
[15:35] <lordcirth> security is handled for you by ssh
[15:36] <becool> how will a user authenticate and stay locked to their home directory?
[15:37] <lordcirth> becool, you need various untrusted users to log in and access only their home directories?
[15:38] <becool> i need users to be able to send/receive files they upload to us. i need them to be able to list their files and directories
[15:38] <becool> can't do that with scp or rsync
[15:38] <becool> and i need it to be encrypted. so it's either sftp or ftps
[15:38] <adrian_1908> becool: SFTP
[15:38] <becool> adrian_1908: thanks
[15:39] <ash_worksi> I guess it depends on the audience but I feel like that should be more of just a web form/listing.
[15:40] <lordcirth> Yeah, "users" and "needing to know what SFTP is" may not mix well.
[15:41] <ash_worksi> just have some simple auth on a web application with an upload form and an index for listing files.
[15:42] <lordcirth> Or Nextcloud
[15:42] <becool> how will i be able to lock each user account to a separate home directory with sftp? will it default to the home dir for their account? will it still work if i disable shell access for users ('chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin')?
[15:43] <OerHeks> becool, besides FTP, owncloud is an other solution
[15:43] <becool> i think ftps is the best balance between users being able to connect and keeping things secure
[15:43] <becool> OerHeks: i'll check it out
[15:44] <lordcirth> OerHeks, becool Nextcloud replaces Owncloud
[15:44] <ash_worksi> I know this isn't really the channel for it, but if anyone has any pointers to improve this script, I'd appreciate it: https://gist.github.com/ash-m/1199927a13ebf4818401a24f92b2098e
[15:45] <ash_worksi> it interactively changes passwords in the passwd file dovecot uses (since dovecot is apparently set up that way here)
[15:48] <ash_worksi> the concept is that you run the command like `dovechpass ash.m<EMAIL_ADDRESS>...`; the major loop iterates over each argument, the first inner loop collects accounts from the passwd file, the second inner loop collects a password from the user and the third inner loops iterates over each username collected in the first loop to just gawk-replace lines in the passwd file
[15:51] <ash_worksi> the idea is that if you enter a partial account, it collects everything matching at the beginning; so if i just did `dovechpass ash` it would collect names like<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>and give me a single prompt to change the password for all those accounts
[15:52] <ash_worksi> if I did `dovechpass<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>I'd get two prompts
[15:54] <ash_worksi> as-is, a possibly unexpected behaviour might be if you ran `dovechpass<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ash` which would set the password for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to the first one provided and then reset it the second one provided.
[15:54] <ash_worksi> although it would tell you it's doing so.
[15:56] <ash_worksi> I guess I could have another array which keeps track of accounts that were set and just continue out if it's found.
[15:56] <ash_worksi> thank you for helping me rubber duck that
[15:56] <ash_worksi> that's an easy fix
[16:00] <lordcirth> lol, glad to be of service
[16:01] <blackflow> best support ever!
[16:01] <lordcirth> Though my main suggestion would be to consider running a web frontend for this rather than a bash script that handles passwords.
[16:01] <lordcirth> (as in, a web frontend maintained by other people)
[16:04] <ash_worksi> lordcirth: it's sort of just a utility to change passwords in /etc/dovecot/passwd
[16:04] <ash_worksi> lordcirth: it got bigger and bigger as the requirements kept changing
[16:06] <ash_worksi> initially it was just the gawk statement using '{ if(index($0, acct)){ sub(/:.*/,pass); }; print }'
[16:07] <ash_worksi> but the problem with that was that `doveadm pw` uses the username in hashing the password
[16:08] <ash_worksi> so if you did `dovechpass ash` then it would set passwords for ash.m ash.worksi and ash.mobile all using the same password with user "ash" which would fail
[16:08] <blackflow> ash_worksi: seems overly too complex. you can always use SQLite and make it much, much simpler.
[16:08] <ash_worksi> "overly too complex" is a very ironic statement
[16:09] <ash_worksi> :P
[16:09] <blackflow> well, it's also a bit offtopic for #ubuntu :)
[16:09] <ash_worksi> that's true
[16:10] <ash_worksi> but I was more looking for pointers in terms of sharpening my bash skills anyway
[16:10] <ash_worksi> and I've about hit the limit asking in #bash
[16:15] <ash_worksi> actually, come to think of it, now the reverse of my problem is not intuitive
[16:16] <ash_worksi> like `dovechpass ash<EMAIL_ADDRESS>_SHOULD_ override
[16:20] <ash_worksi> I'll check if it's being reset by a mass-override as well I guess
[16:40] <parak0vsky> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/Installation this installation method did not work
[16:41] <parak0vsky> terminal output https://0bin.net/paste/ZtL3j6hszybFhBJf#NZcDAMSI6OYfnX-K1dAUA1eDUTWltmW7VzPPL7bXUe9
[16:41] <parak0vsky> oops wrong command lol
[16:42] <parak0vsky> here's the correct one https://0bin.net/paste/dJy8isEVWpZliNpT#hnrktQexbhO+dvh8tkAm7lHPgz-xDt0zQceKOhi/hqt
[16:44] <pennTeller> Hi guys, is it true that Canonical does not have the best interest for Free Software as a priority and we should all be changing platforms to Pop OS or even pure Debian?
[16:45] <lordcirth> pennTeller, #ubuntu-discuss
[16:45] <lordcirth> parak0vsky, why install from the external repo? Do you need a newer version?
[16:45] <pennTeller> lordcirth, thank you
[17:00] <swills> can someone tell me when CVE-2019-9948 and CVE-2019-9740 will be fixed?
[17:03] <blackflow> swills: could ask in #debian-hardened
[17:03] <blackflow> oops. #ubuntu-hardened
[17:03] <swills> ok...
[17:03] <tomreyn> swills: i guess nobody can perfectly predict this, but you can watch https;//usb.ubuntu.com (security.ubuntu.com redirects there) and use https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/
[17:04] <blackflow> swills: btw, they seem fixed for cosmic
[17:05] <blackflow> ah, no, just -9948 is
[17:14] <mr_lou> Why is newfs_udf for BSD seemingly much cooler than newfs_udf for Ubuntu?
[17:14] <mr_lou> Man page contains a ton more options than Ubuntu's version does.
[17:14] <mr_lou> http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/newfs_udf/
[17:14] <mr_lou> Old version for Ubuntu?
[17:15] <mr_lou> It looks weird. Some parameters, like -t have totally different functions on each platform.
[17:15] <rivyn> What could be the cause of a ~30 second delay when logging in to an Ubuntu Server node, or using `su -`, that is *not* present when running `sudo bash -l`?
[17:15] <rivyn> What is done before the shell is started that could be responsible?
[17:21] <lordcirth> rivyn, local or ssh?
[17:21] <rivyn> lordcirth any.
[17:22] <lordcirth> rivyn, check /var/log/auth.log
[17:22] <rivyn> lordcirth:  I'm using SSH right now, but even after logged in, `su -` takes a long time, while `sudo bash -l` is instant
[17:22] <rivyn> `sudo su -` I mean
[17:23] <lordcirth> rivyn, what about 'sudo -s' and 'sudo -i'?
[17:23] <tomreyn> mr_lou: because ufs is, in essence, a bsd file system
[17:23] <rivyn> lordcirth:  both are instant
[17:23] <swills> he was referring to udf not ufs
[17:23] <tomreyn> oops, thanks swills
[17:24] <rivyn> lordcirth:  in auth.log, I see dbus[3207]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.login1': timed out
[17:24] <swills> (and don't get me started on Linux's poor support for UFS...)
[17:24] <rivyn> also sshd[23244]: pam_systemd(sshd:session): Failed to create session: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.login1': timed out
[17:26] <mr_lou> tomreyn, Didn't know that.
[17:27] <john_doe_jr> How do you load a system service from a non-standard location?
[17:28] <lordcirth> john_doe_jr, symlink to it from /etc/systemd/service?
[17:30] <john_doe_jr> lordcirth: where are the services on ubuntu usually stored?
[17:30] <lordcirth> john_doe_jr, the ones from packages are in /lib/systemd/system/; user-configured ones should be in /etc
[17:31] <lordcirth> you can see where a given service was loaded from in 'systemctl status ssh'
[17:31] <sneakyimp> So it would appear that the phpmyadmin package simply does not work with MySQL 8.0.16
[17:32] <sneakyimp> configuration fails every time
[17:38] <OerHeks>  from a non-standard location .. interesting, john_doe_jr
[17:41] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: apparently you are supposed to be able to run services from ~/.config: ~/.config/systemd/user/dropbox.service
[17:42] <OerHeks> that would be a standard user location
[17:42] <koala_man> what's the android-sdk package for? I thought it would be the android sdk, but it's missing tools like sdkmanager
[17:42] <OerHeks> or await, i do not have that folder for my dropbox
[17:42] <nanoz> alternative to bc for fast calculator
[17:43] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: yup, it's just an example
[17:43] <OerHeks> standard would be /home/$USER/.dropbox
[17:44] <blackflow> john_doe_jr: yea, google up "systemd user units" for more info.
[17:45] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: so could I put a service file at ~/.config/systemd/myservice.service and it load the service?
[17:45] <OerHeks> how do you tell dropbox to look for that folder?
[17:45] <OerHeks> no
[17:45] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: with systemctl --user daemon-reload
[17:45] <blackflow> you don't tell dropbox, you tell systemd, and that's should be the default path for user units
[17:45] <blackflow> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.unit.html
[17:45] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: well, I'm doing something similar to the concept found at the following link: http://lpan.io/one-liner-dropbox-client/
[18:36] <fuzzybear3965> How do you spawn a BASH process and view its process tree at the same time?
[18:36] <fuzzybear3965> I would use `pstree` with the PID, but how do I get that if the command only runs for ~1 second.
[18:37] <fuzzybear3965> Imagine I wanted a `pstree` of an `ls` command or similar.
[18:39] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: bash -c 'pstree -h'
[18:41] <fuzzybear3965> @sarnold I want to see the tree associated with `./somecommand`.
[18:42] <fuzzybear3965> That doesn't seem like it will do what I want.
[18:42] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: what problem are you trying to solve?
[18:42] <fuzzybear3965> sarnold I have a subprocess generating output that I want to capture, but I need to see how deep the subprocess call list goes in order to capture the child's output and send it up to the parent process.
[18:43] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: aha!
[18:44] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: I suggest installing bpfcc-tools and give execsnoop-bpfcc a try
[18:44] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: you can get a quick idea of what it does with the examples on https://github.com/iovisor/bcc#tools
[18:45] <fuzzybear3965> @sarnold Thanks for the tip. I'm actually on macOS.
[18:46] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: haha :) alrighty..
[18:46] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: how about this then? :) http://dtrace.org/blogs/about/
[18:47] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: those smart dudes even put the exact thing I was looking for right on the first google result for dtrace :) hah
[18:52] <Sven_vB> what's an easy way to get all local IPv4 addresses currently assigned to network devices whose MAC is a certain known value?
[18:53] <Sven_vB> using xenial
[18:54] <Sven_vB> do I have to do cast advanced sed magic on the output of "ip addr"? ;)
[18:54] <sarnold> Sven_vB: good luck. that's the best I can think of and that's pretty brutal
[18:54] <Sven_vB> oh maybe I can use the -n
[18:54] <adol-christin> Hello i need help
[18:55] <adol-christin> https://www.ubuntu18.com/install-vnc-server-ubuntu-18/
[18:55] <adol-christin> how do i set this up
[18:57] <ioria> adol-christin, what's the problem ?
[19:03] <fuzzybear3965> sarnold Sorry, my boss came into the room. That should work beautifully! Thanksz1
[19:04] <fuzzybear3965> s/sz1/s!
[19:04] <Sven_vB> argh. why won't ip addr show the MACs when using -oneline. could have made my sed magic so much simpler.
[19:05] <adol-christin> im trying to setup vnc
[19:05] <adol-christin> but this command wont work
[19:05] <sarnold> fuzzybear3965: no worries :) that's just how irc goes, hehe
[19:05] <adol-christin> root@Ubuntu-1904-disco-64-minimal ~ # ~/.vnc/xstartup                           xrdb: Can't open display ''
[19:05] <sarnold> Sven_vB: well.... addr is for addresses. they may not even have macs, that's specific to the link .. (you probably know this, but just in case.. :)
[19:06] <adol-christin> am i missing something
[19:07] <Sven_vB> adol-christin, are you running an interactive X session and want to share it, or do you want to offer (a shared? or individual?) X sessions to remote VNC users?
[19:07] <ioria> adol-christin, 1) why are you root ?  2) that's not a cmd , but a file path
[19:07] <Sven_vB> ioria, if it produces that error messages, the file is probably executable
[19:08] <Sven_vB> (the path to an executable is a valid command in usual shells.)
[19:08] <ioria> Sven_vB, you don'r run that file manually, it's run by the vnc afaik
[19:09] <adol-christin> because its a server
[19:09] <adol-christin> so how do i fix it
[19:09] <OerHeks> a manual that wants you to install a desktop for a vnc service..?
[19:09] <adol-christin> i am noob
[19:09] <adol-christin> i need vnc its easier to work with a server that way
[19:09] <adol-christin> its a dedi server
[19:10] <cstk421> having an issue with 18.04 remote desktop sharing.  its headless so i only have ssh access.  doing a status on gdm3 i see a message "gkr-pam: no password is available for user"
[19:10] <cstk421> autologin is enabled and required for remote desktop.  using vnc viewer on mac
[19:10] <cstk421> getting blank screen when i remote into it via vnc viewer
[19:10] <ioria> adol-christin, sy, i don't understand why you are manually running that bash script ?
[19:11] <Sven_vB> adol-christin, no worries, this is a support channel. we'll try to help solve your problem. it would be nice though if you could pack your messages into less messages. take your time to write each message, we're not that much in a hurry.
[19:11] <Sven_vB> err, your text in less messages.
[19:12] <adol-christin> Ok so what im trying to do is install vnc so i can run vnc from my comp from my server
[19:12] <adol-christin> so server to comp
[19:12] <Sven_vB> there are at least three modes of how that can work, see my question above.
[19:13] <Sven_vB> ok actually I can guess you probably don't have an interactive X session over KVM or you wouldn't need VNC. :)
[19:14] <Sven_vB> are you sure you need VNC actually? you can run X programs via SSH.
[19:14] <lotus|NUC> adol-christin: stay away from vnc, you will get hammered 24/7
[19:14] <adol-christin> that makes no sense
[19:14] <adol-christin> i know it takes a tol on my comp
[19:14] <adol-christin> know another program?
[19:14] <adol-christin> then thats not so taxing?
[19:16] <Sven_vB> lotus|NUC, I assume you meant to not expose VNC via some publicly accessible port? indeed that would invite attackers.
[19:16] <ioria> adol-christin, if you did what the guide says, and the vnc server is running .... what happens if you try to connect from a client ?
[19:16] <adol-christin> so sven know any other programs
[19:16] <adol-christin> i need to edit the config not sure how
[19:16] <ioria> adol-christin, what config ?
[19:17] <adol-christin> Then, open ~/.vnc/xstartup and make sure it is similar to following configuration:
[19:17] <adol-christin> how to open this
[19:17] <Sven_vB> adol-christin, yeah I know lots of programs. still waiting for your info though. if editing some server config is the problem, why not just use a text based editor?
[19:17] <ioria> adol-christin, how to open ?
[19:17] <adol-christin> im using putty
[19:17] <adol-christin> to connect to the server
[19:17] <adol-christin> SSH
[19:18] <ioria> adol-christin, nano ~/.vnc/xstartup
[19:23] <adol-christin> ok that worked thankyou
[19:23] <adol-christin> ill let u know if another issue happens
[19:23] <ioria> ok
[19:29] <adol-christin> new question apparently this dedi has 2 hard drives but one is only showing up
[19:29] <adol-christin> how do i get the second one too show?
[19:30] <ioria> adol-christin,  show where ?
[19:30] <ioria> adol-christin,  and paste    ' sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 '
[19:32] <adol-christin> idk on my server
[19:32] <adol-christin> its only showing only 1 hard drive
[19:32] <adol-christin> well solid state drive
[19:32] <Sven_vB> in case anyone is interested in my sed magic to find IPs by MAC: ip addr show up | sed -re 's~\s+~ ~g;s~^\S~\r&~;$s~$~\r~' | tr '\r\n' '\n\t' | grep -Fe $'\t link/ether '"$MAC " | tr '\t' '\n' | sed -nre 's~^ inet6? (\S+)(\s.*|)$~\1~p' # works for me
[19:33] <adol-christin> is there a command to see what devices are connected
[19:33] <adol-christin> and installed hard ware wise?
[19:34] <jharttech> Sven: thanks
[19:34] <Sven_vB> adol-christin, man lshw
[19:34] <ioria> adol-christin,  can you read what i wrote ?
[19:35] <adol-christin> i did read what u wrote
[19:35] <ioria> and?
[19:35] <adol-christin> i want to know how many hard drives i have it says 1 but there is 2 according to the company i got my dedi from
[19:35] <adol-christin> and i want it to show on cnv
[19:35] <adol-christin> *VNC
[19:36] <ioria> adol-christin,  paste    ' sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 '
[19:36] <swift110> sup
[19:37] <adol-christin> paste: ' sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 ': No such file or directory
[19:38] <OerHeks> try without '
[19:39] <adol-christin> paste: invalid option -- 'l'Try 'paste --help' for more information.
[19:39] <CheetahPixie> Tried a more complete termbin url?
[19:40] <majest1c> I'm on the 5.0.0-17-generic kernel and I need the CP210x driver to work. When I try to connect a device that require that driver it does not get recognized. So I went to SiLabs and followed their instructions on how to add that driver for ubuntu, but it turns out it is already there, what should I do?
[19:40] <CheetahPixie> majest1c Tried modprobing it?
[19:40] <majest1c> CheetahPixie I don't know how to do that
[19:40] <adol-christin> i dont know anything
[19:40] <adol-christin> can u help
[19:40] <CheetahPixie> Do you know the module name?
[19:40] <adol-christin> i was supposed to paste bin something but now im confused :(
[19:41] <majest1c> CheetahPixie I just downloaded a bunch of files and followed instructions
[19:41] <jharttech> adol run the command with out the paste part, only what is between the quote marks in the command that ioria mentioned
[19:41] <sarnold> adol-christin: note that paste(1) is an old-school unix utility; you probably want pastebinit(1) instead
[19:41] <majest1c> I was supposed to copy the cp210x.ko to a certain path, but when I made "Insmod" it said the file already exists
[19:42] <ioria> adol-christin,   sudo parted -l |  nc termbin.com 9999
[19:42] <CheetahPixie> So the module name is cp210x.
[19:42] <majest1c> Yeah I guess so then
[19:42] <CheetahPixie> Do lsmod | grep -ai cp210x
[19:42] <adol-christin> https://termbin.com/zt2q
[19:42] <adol-christin> here
[19:42] <ioria> good
[19:42] <majest1c> Yeah I got some results from that CheetahPixie
[19:42] <CheetahPixie> Show me.
[19:43] <majest1c> CheetahPixie https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fdcq8G4rCJ/
[19:44] <OerHeks> adol-christin, you *do* have 2 disks, nvme .. but they are both in raid
[19:44] <OerHeks> so, together 1 disk, have fun!
[19:44] <adol-christin> how do i fix it?
[19:44] <royal_screwup21> I'm trying to kill the most power hungry process with top. I ran `top`. I hit `m`. Now, how do I select which process to kill? Moving the up or down array doesn't highlight any process...
[19:44] <OerHeks> there is no fix?
[19:44] <adol-christin> so what should i reinstall the operating system?'
[19:45] <royal_screwup21> arrow*
[19:45] <CheetahPixie> royal_screwup21 I would suggest htop; it has much more granularity, and can be used with a mouse.
[19:45] <ioria> adol-christin,  raid stuff, not my cup of tea, sy
[19:45] <adol-christin> whats raid?
[19:45] <CheetahPixie> adol-christin If that RAID array is your /, then reinstalling is your only option to dismantle it.
[19:46] <CheetahPixie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
[19:46] <OerHeks> if this is a rental server, leave it like this
[19:46] <adol-christin> why leave it like this?
[19:46] <majest1c> CheetahPixie How do I proceed?
[19:47] <psilly0>  _______
[19:47] <psilly0> < hello >
[19:47] <psilly0>  -------
[19:47] <psilly0>         \   ^__^
[19:47] <psilly0>          \  (oo)\_______
[19:47] <psilly0>             (__)\       )\/\
[19:49] <CheetahPixie> Long story short: RAID is a method to combine multiple drives into a single volume. RAID 1 duplicates, RAID 0 stripes, and then there are other RAID "levels" doing a certain mix of those two, to fill different goals of a certain set; such as reliability/redundancy and speed.
[19:49] <CheetahPixie> However, considering that you have RAID 1, you may be able to safely dismantle the array and still have a bootable system, but I have too little experience to tell safety for sure.
[19:49] <royal_screwup21> does anyoe know docker works? I'm trying t o kill all running docker processes - I tried  `docker stop $(docker ps -aq)`....it's showing what are presumablt containers ids....but when I docker ps, it doesn't show anything. What's going on? Shouldn't it be showing processes that are running but haven't been killed yet?
[19:49] <CheetahPixie> majest1c What does dmesg -w show when you plug the device in?
[19:49] <royal_screwup21> presumably*
[19:49] <CheetahPixie> royal_screwup21Tried pkill docker*
[19:50] <CheetahPixie> ?
[19:52] <CheetahPixie> Wait.
[19:52] <CheetahPixie> Is this an USB serial device? majest1c
[19:53] <CheetahPixie> If so, what are you expecting to happen once plugged in? What made you conclude it was not detected?
[19:53] <CheetahPixie> Because in your modprobe, I can definitely see a serial device.
[19:53] <CheetahPixie> Try: ls /dev/ttyUSB*
[19:53] <CheetahPixie> If there are results there, then you definitely have an USB serial device.
[19:53] <leftyfb> royal_screwup21: maybe try #docker ?
[20:03] <cyberpolice> how can i run chck disk on a ntfs drive but in read only
[20:04] <cyberpolice> is it possible to do it
[20:11] <catbadger> hi all!
[20:12] <catbadger> I'm copying a file from an ssd in a usb3 enclosure, cp and dd both report that the file is too large. the drive is formatted ntfs.
[20:12] <catbadger> the fiel is really big (5.1gb)
[20:13] <lordcirth> catbadger, from an SSD that is formatted NTFS? Or from an SSD to a partition that is NTFS?
[20:23] <OerHeks> so you have no space enough on the target; free some space then?
[20:24] <psilly0> what does ^^ mean after a variable?
[20:25] <lordcirth> OerHeks, I think he means EFBIG / File too large, not ENOSPC
[20:25] <catbadger> lordcirth from ntfs ssd to ext4 internal
[20:25] <lordcirth> catbadger, can you please pastebin the exact command and output?
[20:26] <lordcirth> psilly0, in what context? a bash file?
[20:27] <psilly0> lordcirth, yes
[20:27] <catbadger> well first i tried cp x y
[20:27] <lordcirth> catbadger, also, the output of 'df -h' and 'lsblk -f'
[20:27] <EriC^^> psilly0: type "man bash" then type "/\^\^"
[20:27] <catbadger> then i tried tar cf - bigfile.iso | (cd /storage/foo; tar xvf -)
[20:28] <catbadger> the disk is NOT full
[20:28] <catbadger> acording to df it's 63% used
[20:28] <lordcirth> catbadger, 'df -h' and 'lsblk -f' please?
[20:28] <lordcirth> Not just for usage; I want to know what the devices are
[20:30] <catbadger> lordcirth https://pastebin.com/utu3vd5f
[20:31] <psilly0> lordcirth, thanks dude!
[20:32] <hortiel> hi
[20:32] <hortiel> on askubuntu
[20:32] <hortiel> ..you see the list of folders you can cd to under /usr/. Which function is executed? greping the complete function (as above) tells us it's the funtction _cd in /etc/bash_completion.
[20:32] <hortiel> so I don't know what the exact way is to list the file location of bash_completion or whatever complete uses?
[20:32] <hortiel> https://askubuntu.com/questions/443186/whats-the-use-of-complete-command
[20:38] <OerHeks> type the first 3 unique letters, and tab, nifty shortcut
[20:39] <tomreyn> cyberpolice: ntfsfix --help  lists 5 options, try picking the most mathing one
[20:40] <tomreyn> *matChing
[20:40] <OerHeks> i think it uses /urs/share/bash_completion/bash_completion
[20:43] <lordcirth> catbadger, probably not your problem, but in future, don't format drives directly (superfloppy) make a partition
[20:44] <lordcirth> catbadger, you are copying to /media/catbadger/storage ? That's vfat.
[20:45] <lordcirth> vfat has a max file size of 4GiB.
[20:45] <cyberpolice> ok got it
[20:45] <cyberpolice> thank you
[20:45] <lordcirth> catbadger, since you've only got 21GB in there, you might want to move it off and reformat it
[20:46] <OerHeks> tar it in 3.9 gb chuncks
[20:47] <hortiel> in gpg , can I generate or regenerate the same key,salt, iv parameters, does gpg accept deterministic algorithms...
[20:48] <lordcirth> splitting it is also a valid option, if you don't need to use it directly
[20:49] <catbadger> ...
[20:50] <catbadger> thank you lordcirth
[21:29] <sptz> anyone here know how to do filetansfers over usb-c? I have a mac with usb-c and backup laptop with usb-c but no ethernet on any of them. Doing an initial restic backup is painfully slow over  n wifi network. so im looking into option to leverage the 10Gbps speed of the 3.1 connection. But im really stumbling in the dark here.  Is there any security daemon specific to ubuntu that is active by default that can cause such thing?
[23:14] <sarnold> what errors do you get?
[23:14] <OerHeks> what app and what ubuntu version?
[23:14] <OerHeks> does it provide logs?
[23:17] <Thr0r> Is Orage the only usable calendar in Linux/ubuntu flavours when it comes to popup notifications of events and setting recurring events (i.e every 2nd week) Korganizer does not send notifications nor does it give a popup reminder..


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[05:24] <lostson> me as well
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