[00:00] <LiteralKa> too late
[00:00] <cwillu_at_work> Whizpopthat, don't get in the habit of using root shells
[00:00] <blackest_knight> merry xmas
[00:00] <cwillu_at_work> ubbe, don't get in the habit of suggesting people use root shells
[00:00] <edbian> LiteralKa: ha ha ok no big deal
[00:00] <ubbe> cwillu_at_work, relax
[00:00] <LiteralKa> yeah, hopefully :P
[00:00] <edbian> LiteralKa: After you get everything installed again reboot and see if it makes a difference.
[00:00] <LiteralKa> okay
[00:00] <LiteralKa> thank you
[00:01] <edbian> LiteralKa: No Problem.  Hardware detection is the  biggest problem for linux imho
[00:01] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, any luck?
[00:01] <LiteralKa> yeah
[00:01] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: Where do i go from here, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ...it gave me no such file or directory
[00:01] <Whizpopthat> wait hold on lol
[00:01] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, sudo which ifconfig
[00:02] <cwillu_at_work> which ifconfig, you _don't_ need to use sudo for each command, and it _will_ bite you badly some day if you do
[00:02] <minimec> Whizpopthat: Ok. Let's work that out together... What kind of device is that? USB wifi or integrated netbook device?
[00:02] <LiteralKa> i've been using tty for the past 24 hours
[00:02] <Circs> I have a G1 with USB tethering enables and my netbook runs 8.0. in 9.04 the tethering is supposed to be "auto-magic" is there a way to enable support for this tethering in 8.04?
[00:02] <Whizpopthat> Dell inspiron 1501 wireless card.
[00:02] <edbian> LiteralKa: I bet you're getter pretty good at it! :P
[00:02] <LiteralKa> lol
[00:03] <LiteralKa> It's been pathetic
[00:03] <LiteralKa> I still find myself trying to use the mouse
[00:03] <michaels_> Get windows keys for only 5 eur http://bit.ly/5Tgz2X :)
[00:03] <APERSON> !ops | michaels_ spamming
[00:03] <edbian> LiteralKa: Unfortunately I think the best advice I can give is to simply use the last version of Ubuntu
[00:03] <minimec> Whizpopthat: What about that? http://www.ubuntu1501.com/
[00:04] <Circs> ty Seeker`
[00:04] <LiteralKa> yeah
[00:04] <LiteralKa> well
[00:04] <LiteralKa> here goes
[00:04]  * ubbe now we suggest third party wifi tools?
[00:04] <cwillu_at_work> h0g4398h3, still there?
[00:04] <edbian> LiteralKa: I use debian because I was annoyed by Ubuntu updates messing things up.  Although I do occasionally miss life on the edge
[00:04] <Whizpopthat> minimec: download the Auto-NDISwrapper?
[00:05] <ilSoldier> hi
[00:05] <Hydrosis> lol, why was Seeker kicked?
[00:05] <ilSoldier> I need help
[00:05]  * nucc1 says so long and thanks for all the fish.
[00:05] <Seeker`> Hydrosis: I wasn't
[00:05] <ilSoldier> is this correct? mount -o rw filename foldertomounto
[00:05] <LiteralKa> restarting
[00:05] <Hydrosis> Lysdexia kicked in, why did you kick that guy Seeker?
[00:05] <cwillu_at_work> Hydrosis, he did the kicking
[00:05] <edbian> ilSoldier: are you trying to mount an ISO ?
[00:05] <ilSoldier> no
[00:05] <ilSoldier> I'm trying to mount an ntfs partition on a hard drive
[00:06] <switch10_> anyone have a good alternative to fspot and picasa??  I just read this, im done with fspot..  http://daniel-bartholomew.com/wordpress/2009/10/f-spot-considered-harmful/
[00:06] <ubbe> ilSoldier, why did you write filename?
[00:06] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, it would be mount /dev/sdasomething /mount/point
[00:06] <Whizpopthat> ?
[00:06] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, if it's an image file, you'd need to add -o loop
[00:06] <ilSoldier> I've booted from ubuntu on my usb stick so I could fix up my xp os which is on my hard drive
[00:06] <Whizpopthat> minimec: are you suggesting to download the Auto-NDISwrapper?
[00:07] <ubbe> minimec, does your wifi card show up in dmesg
[00:07] <arch----> how do you prevent ubuntu LIVE from going into sleep mode?
[00:07] <arch----> im in the process of DL'ing something and don't want it to get interruped
[00:07] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, does your wifi card show up in dmesg
[00:07] <minimec> Whizpopthat: I would try that. I never had to use ndiswrapper as i try to only choose Linux compatible devices. But that sounds quiet interesting. Still... as your card is recognized as wlan0, I guess your card is working. You could also pastebin your dmesg (console 'dmesg'). There we could verify if your device gives some errors during boot...
[00:08] <edbian> I'm back.  Sorry 'bout that
[00:08] <switch10_> arch----: in power Management
[00:08] <edbian> Who's trying to mount something?
[00:08] <arch----> how to get there
[00:08] <ubbe> minimec, if the card is working why would you install a third party tool which is for alternative drivers?
[00:08] <Snausages> switch10_: wow, that guy sure is upset about it...  it's a bug in free software!  guy ought to relax a lil.
[00:08] <switch10_> arch----: system>prefs
[00:08] <Shanthi> Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically.
[00:09] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:09] <Whizpopthat> loading dmesg in a sec
[00:09] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:09] <Shanthi> FWIW,  ipod (1st gen Min, if it matters) is mounted at /media/mypod correctly and I can list stuff there. I finally managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:10] <switch10_> Snausages: ya hes not to happy.  but he brings up a good point.  ive used fspot until now, and im just curious to see what else is out there...
[00:10] <minimec> ubbe: see my last post to Whizpopthat ;)
[00:10] <arch----> thanks
[00:10] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:10] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:10] <switch10_> Snausages: im not a huge fan of picasa either...
[00:10] <Whizpopthat> minimec: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m268d2eba
[00:10] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, sudo iwlist scan    --->output should show wifi networks
[00:11] <switch10_> Snausages: fspot is better than picasa in my opinion though
[00:11] <lun4tic> hi anybody there to help me with a vlc streaming server problem on ubuntu-server?
[00:11] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2416): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager: Connection ":1.27" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.DisplayManager" due to security policies in the configuration file
[00:11] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2416): WARNING **: Could not acquire name; bailing out
[00:11] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: wlan0 interface doesn't support scanning: network is down
[00:11] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:11] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:11] <lun4tic> i always get "Illegal Instruction" when trying to start a movie on the client. the server has no X installed and cannot play movies without streaming either
[00:12] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:12] <ago_> hello
[00:12] <switch10_> !hello
[00:12] <edbian> ago_: Hi :)
[00:12] <chaupham1990> hi
[00:12] <LiteralKa> edbian: Error
[00:12] <lun4tic> what do i have to install to get vlc playing movies? some "ugly" packages?
[00:12] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2426): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager: Connection ":1.28" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.DisplayManager" due to security policies in the configuration file
[00:12] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2426): WARNING **: Could not acquire name; bailing out
[00:12] <FloodBot2> LiteralKa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, dmesg shows your device
[00:12] <LiteralKa> FloodBot2: I can't. ;_;
[00:13] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:13] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: I did dmesg.. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m268d2eba
[00:13] <switch10_> lun4tic: what type of file??
[00:13] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:13] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, fn F2  command on keyboard will activate the wifi on that laptop make sure that is on
[00:13] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:13] <edbian> LiteralKa: Mmm, that's a crazy error.  Can you find the config file it's whining about?
[00:13] <cwillu_at_work> LiteralKa, can you give more description of what happened?
[00:13] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, make sure you see the wifi light lit up on your laptop
[00:13] <lun4tic> switch10_: different avi, mpeg and stuff none of them works
[00:13] <cwillu_at_work> LiteralKa, sounds like something that would happen if gdm died during an upgrade to karmic
[00:14] <edbian> LiteralKa: His mouse and keyboard did not work after switching to ubuntu 9.10 so I suggested hi purge and re-install HAL
[00:14] <minimec> Whizpopthat: I think I got something ... Line 472: [   28.000407] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
[00:14] <lun4tic> with "normal" vlc on my desktop ubuntu all works fine
[00:14] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: It's off, but won't turn on, wireless IS enabled
[00:14] <lun4tic> but the server wont play anything
[00:14] <Whizpopthat> minimec: I just noticed that.
[00:14] <Hydrosis> LiteralKa - http://chvnx.com/post/280205781/change-screen-resolution-in-linux-ubuntu  -- If it's screen resolution detection problems, maybe you can learn something from this?  Not sure what you exact problem is, sorry.
[00:14] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, could be that the driver in ubuntu wont activate the light i just want to make sure its on
[00:14] <edbian> Hydrosis: His mouse and keyboard weren't working
[00:14] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:15] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:15] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:15] <Whizpopthat> Okay
[00:15] <teleri> ok, I'm on an Acer Aspire One D250 and after every boot up i have to wait about a minute before i turn the mouse pad on or else if i try any earlier it causes the whole keyboard, mouse, and mic to stop working intirly
[00:15] <lun4tic> i allready addet the medibuntu repository and installed gstreamer...ugly packages and w32codecs
[00:15] <Whizpopthat> minimec: what's the url to download the firmware
[00:15] <JoeSomebody> if a game says ubuntu 8.04 does that mean 8.04 or higher, like in windowsland?
[00:15] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody, no, but usually it will work.
[00:16] <edbian> JoeSomebody: Not explicitly but probably.
[00:16] <Whizpopthat> i just did it through terminal nevermind
[00:16] <JoeSomebody> :)
[00:16] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, looking closer ndiswrapper is recommended for your laptop
[00:16] <teleri> JoeSomebody: sometimes.. it's hit or miss
[00:16] <ilSoldier> how do you switch to root user in the command in line?
[00:16] <blakkheim> ilSoldier: sudo su
[00:16] <Hydrosis> ilSolider, use sudo
[00:16] <switch10_> ilSoldier: sudo
[00:16] <teleri> JoeSomebody: which game in particular?
[00:16] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/11/ndiswrapper-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[00:16] <switch10_> ha
[00:16] <edbian> ilSoldier: "sudo <commandName>" is the method in Ubuntu
[00:17] <minimec> Whizpopthat: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware ?!?
[00:17] <JoeSomebody> i was going to try Urban terror that Hydrosis was mentioning
[00:17] <Whizpopthat> I remember having that on my old version, I had to manually retrieve it that might be the issue
[00:17] <Shanthi> anyone reg: Amarok 2.2.0 on Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:17] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:17] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:17] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:17] <Whizpopthat> minimec: i found it already through terminal
[00:17] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, sudo -s will give you a root prompt, but you'll sleep sounder at night if you just use sudo <command> as necessary, it really does prevent mishaps
[00:17] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody, Urban Terror works on all Ubuntu installs that I have ever used.  Get the game and have fun, it's the best FPS for Linux, in my opinion.
[00:17] <edbian> How can i send a  network message to all the users on my home router?
[00:17] <blakkheim> !repeat > chaupham1990
[00:17] <ilSoldier> well I did sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp
[00:17] <ilSoldier> is that wrong???
[00:17] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, did it say anything?
[00:17] <teleri> JoeSomebody: are you still there?
[00:18] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, ok , here i go ...
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  If you want read/write access use ntfs-3g
[00:18] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, generally you don't have to supply "-t <fstype>"
[00:18] <JoeSomebody> teleri, yes
[00:18] <edbian> ilSoldier: You probably want "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp"
[00:18] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, but what Dr_Willis said :p
[00:18] <Rolcol> Is there something wrong with the version of CUPS karmic has that does not allow me to print PDFs but is fine with postscript?
[00:18] <Whizpopthat> minimec: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter wget will work?
[00:18] <edbian> ilSoldier: Typically you want to mount things in /media/<folderName> but that's really up to you
[00:18] <Rolcol> On this printer, anyway
[00:19] <ubbe> edbian, wall
[00:19] <Shanthi> How to add podcasts to the device ? Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically. I managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:19] <blakkheim> Shanthi: what kind of ipod?
[00:19] <Gartral> JoeSomebody: hi, im the same as teleri, i can't find that game
[00:20] <edbian> ubbe: Can you be more specific?  How do I get it to send to every local IP address?  or just to a specific one?
[00:20] <Shanthi> blakkheim: 1st gen mini silver
[00:20] <minimec> Whizpopthat: Try to follow the instructions. I guess that will do. If they want you to install that... then do it.
[00:20] <JoeSomebody> Urban Terror? http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Urban-Terror-Download-30754.html
[00:20] <Whizpopthat> minimec: do you think i will need to reboot after i finish?
[00:20] <Hydrosis> The Urban Terror website is down right now.
[00:21] <ilSoldier> edbian I typed exactly what you typed
[00:21] <switch10_> what alternatives are there to fspot and picasa??
[00:21] <ilSoldier> a whole bunch of stuff came down showing all the options -v -h yada yada
[00:21] <Hydrosis> switch10_ I dont use either, so I cant answer that.
[00:21] <ubbe> edbian, udp broadcasting
[00:21] <switch10_> Hydrosis: do you use a photo manager?
[00:21] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, got an error - Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: urbanterror-data (>= 4.1)
[00:22] <edbian> ilSoldier: Can you copy / paste what that was exactly?
[00:22] <ilSoldier> "so for the informational part. Next the mounting."
[00:22] <ilSoldier> wtf does that mean
[00:22] <edbian> ubbe: What would the command look like?
[00:22] <ubbe> edbian, its a c program
[00:22] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody, I just said that the offical UrbanTerror site is down, so maybe you're trying to grab files from a dead server.
[00:22] <minimec> Whizpopthat: That's the easiest thing 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' may work to, but it will cut your wired connection too ;)
[00:22] <ilSoldier> edbian I'm on another computer :-(
[00:22] <Whizpopthat> okay ill try it.
[00:22] <ilSoldier> ooo nm nm
[00:22] <edbian> ilSoldier: do you have the ntfs-3g package installed?
[00:23] <edbian> ilSoldier: "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[00:23] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, you mean my version is too old?
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: I'm just confused because the wall man page is just "wall filename"
[00:23] <ubbe> edbian, http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/How_to_use_udp_broadcast
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: ooooooooooooooo
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: ha ha, thanks!
[00:23] <ubbe> edbian, thats a python one but i've never tried that
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: Is it in the repos?
[00:24] <ubbe> edbian, did wall send it to all pc's
[00:24] <Hydrosis> Where did you downlaod UrbanTerror from is the officail site is down, JoeSomebody?
[00:24] <ilSoldier> hah "can't find package ntfs-3g"
[00:24] <Pelo> evening folks
[00:24] <edbian> ubbe: no, that's what I'm trying to figure out how to do
[00:24] <JoeSomebody> http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Urban-Terror-Download-30754.html
[00:24] <Pelo> is there a command line ap to select restricted drivers ?
[00:24] <ubbe> edbian, try a udp broadcast
[00:24] <edbian> ilSoldier: Check your repos.
[00:24] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, jockey-text I believe
[00:25] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, thanks
[00:25] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, you can also just apt-get install the relevant packages, but knowing which ones you need is probably your problem in the first place ;p
[00:25] <ubbe> edbian, there might be a program but i know commercial firewalls can do it and so can a C program but i've never had a need for it
[00:25] <Hydrosis> That should have worked, JoeSomebody
[00:25] <ubbe> edbian, just curious what you doing?
[00:26] <ilSoldier> repos?
[00:26] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, I actualy know which ones, I think I ust apt-get installed  nvidia-173*  that should do it I think, don't you ?
[00:26] <edbian> ubbe: Messing with my brother!
[00:26] <ubbe> LOL
[00:26] <jamieleshaw> haha
[00:26] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, dkms status -> check for the relevant driver for your kernel
[00:26] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, might just need a reboot, yep
[00:26] <Shanthi> How to add podcasts to the device ? Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod (1st gen Mini) or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically. I managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:27] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody - http://www.urbanterror.net/page.php?6
[00:27] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, i am on 9.10
[00:27] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, I just saw dkms scroll by during the install I'M gonna assume it did the job
[00:27] <ubbe> edbian, wall is only on the same machine so it wont work for sending
[00:27] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, in that case, simply closing everything and restarting gdm might do the trick
[00:27] <cwillu_at_work> (if it doesn't, just reboot :p)
[00:27]  * Pelo finds doing the config of a command line system by remote a bit unnverving
[00:28] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, no gdm, that was the point of this little reinstall, old comp to be used as a media server (connected to the tv), I'M getting rid of everything but the bare essentials
[00:28] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, doing the same for a remote system that controls the gates of a bulk weigher is more unnerving :p
[00:29] <|black|> I have a question regarding Intel C2D E7400
[00:29] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, then why do you need nvidia?
[00:29] <|black|> can any one help please?
[00:29] <cwillu_at_work> oh, _to_ be used
[00:29] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, just ask, don't ask to ask
[00:29] <|black|> nice
[00:29] <mmarc__> hi
[00:29] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, I want hte proper video driver to run the tv ,  and the application I'M gonna be using to put .... stuff on the tv from the comp
[00:29] <|black|> mate I am just confused my processor is 64bit or 32bit?
[00:29] <mmarc__> is it possible to install eclipse 3.4 (not 3.5) from repos for Karmic?
[00:29] <|black|> I know it supports 64 but is it native?
[00:30] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, if it supports a 64bit operating system, then it's 64bit
[00:30] <|black|> like will I get performance boost if I switch from ubuntu 32bit to 64bit?
[00:30] <cwillu_at_work> you can't install a 64bit os on a 32bit machine, it just won't work
[00:30] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, my first download was too quick (said complete but lied i think) this one should work 3% so far
[00:30] <Bob_Dole> All Core 2's are 64bit capable.
[00:30] <|black|> I know its supported
[00:30] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, do you know how to auto-login to a cli system and auto start apps ?
[00:30] <cwillu_at_work> probably, although some things will be more of a headache to get working (flash comes to mind)
[00:31] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, which, graphical stuff?
[00:31] <Real_Christmas> If I boot a Ubuntu Live CD and install openssh-server, then the user ubuntu hasn't got any password. How come? And what would happend if anyone try to connect to my computer using ubuntu@ip-address ?
[00:31] <|black|> so it guarentees that I wil get perform. boost?
[00:31] <Bob_Dole> |black| also, 64bit only boosts performance for some applications, but makes everything require a little extra ram.
[00:31] <Hydrosis> |mate|: open a terminal window and type "uname -m" without the quotation makrs.  Tell me what it says
[00:31] <|black|> I think 2Gb is adequate for that?
[00:31] <switch10_> Real_Christmas: the password on the live cd is blank
[00:31] <cwillu_at_work> meh, the additional ram usage really is negligable in most cases
[00:31] <ilSoldier> how do I get the ntfs-3g option for mounting? is it just my version of ubuntu?
[00:31] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, from scratch ,  I want this box to start this one app when it boots,  freevo , it requires x but I can manage that bit,
[00:31] <switch10_> Real_Christmas: and the user name is ubuntu
[00:31] <|black|> is any one here with a core 2 duo?
[00:32] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, investigate xinit and company
[00:32] <JoeSomebody> i just got a used hp printer psc 1350 for a present, any chance of it working in linux?
[00:32] <Bob_Dole> ENcoding things, and compressing/decompressing are the main things to benefit from 64bit. Are you doing those things?
[00:32] <Pelo> ilSoldier, there is an app called ntfs-config I beleive,  it'S gui , just install it and look for it in the menus
[00:32] <Bob_Dole> |black| *ENcoding things, and compressing/decompressing are the main things to benefit from 64bit. Are you doing those things?
[00:32] <switch10_> |black|:  do you have more than 3.5 gigs of ram?  if so you will see a performance boost from using 64 bit.  otherwise stick with 32
[00:32] <JoeSomebody> i mean ubuntu?
[00:32] <Real_Christmas> switch10_: Yes, I know, but what will happend if anyone tries to connect using ssh ubuntu@ip-address when the password is blank? Will they get into my computer then?
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, you'll want to use upstart jobs, which really are quite simple (you can use /etc/init/tty1 as an example, and look at the other ones as needed.  Most of them are _way_ more complicated than they need to be however, due to their convertion from old-style /etc/init.d/ scripts)
[00:33] <adac> Is there a karmic skype deb on skype.com?
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, blank passwords can't be used for remote logins by default
[00:33] <|black|> Bob_Dole, I do coding and processor intesive work will it help, and I have 2gb but getting another 2gb stick is not a prob
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> or any login for that matter
[00:33] <switch10_> Real_Christmas: yup they could if you have an ssh server installed...
[00:33] <gui7> ello
[00:33] <|black|> gui7, hi mate
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> switch10_, no, they couldn't
[00:33] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, nice to know. What would be the best way to get it working. Set a password for root?
[00:34] <Bob_Dole> |black| I don't actually know for that. it might, and the extra ram can be helpful.
[00:34] <minimec> adac: the debian/ubuntu package on the skype page does the job, as it is a 'static library version'
[00:34] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, switch10_, pam disables password authentication for accounts with no passwords by default
[00:34] <danopia> http://is.gd/5AAh1
[00:34] <switch10_> cwillu_at_work: why not?
[00:34] <Whizpopthat> minimec: i'm sure i followed the instructions correctly and it may have failed lol.
[00:34] <JoeSomebody> hp printer just windows and mac on the website
[00:34] <Whizpopthat> minimec: i'm going to try a reboot in a minute.
[00:34] <switch10_> cwillu_at_work: ah ok
[00:34] <gui7> anyone know what the easiest way to convert a .avi to a DVD is? i dont need any fancy menus or subtitles, i just need it to play on my (normal) dvd player :)
[00:34] <|black|> Bob_Dole, coz I heard maybe a rumor, that 64bit is supported in C2D but not native (in hardware)
[00:34] <|black|> only thats y m confused
[00:34] <Pelo> ok thanks cwillu_at_work I'll look into that, I'll just try to get this box working properly for now , I can deal with the automated stuff later
[00:34] <minimec> Whizpopthat: It's christmas. Maybe you get your gift ;)
[00:34] <adac> minimec, http://www.skype.com/intl/de/download/skype/linux/choose/ It says #  Ubuntu 8.04
[00:34] <adac> Ubuntu 8.10+ 32-bit
[00:34] <adac> Ubuntu 8.10+ 64-bit  is it ok to take one of those THEN?
[00:34] <FloodBot2> adac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: So it will not be possible to login using ssh without first setting a password for user ubuntu?
[00:35] <JoeSomebody> what are you all using for printers in linux?
[00:35] <newser> by any chance anyone knows how to test if a gps receiver is working with gpsd?
[00:35] <|black|> my only question is can any one tell me is core 2 duo better at 64bit than 32?
[00:35] <Whizpopthat> not quite christmas yet, 4:35 the 24th.
[00:35] <Real_Christmas> user ubuntu at a Live CD, I mean.
[00:35] <gui7> is there an easier way to convert avi to dvd than this?: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/AVI_to_DVD
[00:35] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, yes, or installing an ssh public key in the /home/ubuntu/.ssh/authorized_keys file, which is strongly preferred
[00:35] <newser> by any chance anyone knows how to test if a gps receiver is working with gpsd? or if the gps receiver is being detected at all?
[00:35] <Bob_Dole> |black| Core 2 Duo is native 64bit. Some of the chips preceding it are too, but very few. Native 64bit doesn't mean it has the physical addressing space of 64bit, because NO ONE needs that yet.
[00:35] <minimec> adac: yes. I use the 32bit version on karmic ;)
[00:35] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, (ssh-keygen on your local machine, and then copy the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub into authorized_keys on the remote)
[00:35] <shanezilla> anyone have any good tutorials for vsftpd
[00:35] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: To avoid brute force?
[00:36] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, basically, yes.
[00:36] <Whizpopthat> minimec: not quite christmas yet, 4:35 the 24th.
[00:36] <adac> |black|, I thought so. But I'm not really sure bout that
[00:36] <|black|> Bob_Dole, Thanks that all I needed to know and yes 4gb is enuf at ram 16gb is not yet main stream
[00:36] <Bob_Dole> 64bit address space= 16 Exabytes= more RAM than actually exists, probably.
[00:36] <adac> minimec, thx!
[00:36] <ilSoldier> so ntfs-config should come with ubuntu?
[00:36] <minimec> Whizpopthat: well here it's the 25th 1:30 am ;)
[00:37] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, by default, any user account with a password can be logged into remotely if sshd is installed, you have to explicitly disable password authentication in that case (publics keys will always work, its just that the password will _also_ work)
[00:37] <minimec> adac: np
[00:37] <|black|> Bob_Dole, means any app/OS compiled for 64bit will be faster, provided I have enuf ram
[00:37] <Shanthi> I'm a noob, is this not the correct forum for this question ? No responses so far ...  How to add podcasts to the device ? Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod (1st gen Mini) or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically. I managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:37] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, but it's not possible to login if the ubuntu password is blank? Not for anyone?
[00:37] <Whizpopthat> minimec: figured so. I'm going to reboot and if it doesn't work correctly I'm going to uninstall and do a clean brand new install of 9.10
[00:37] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Or will they get in without any password prompt?
[00:37] <|black|> Shanthi, I dont know if it answers your question but I use rythmbox with my IPod
[00:37] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, unless you've done the authorized keys thing correct.
[00:37] <minimec> Whizpopthat: You don't need to!!!
[00:37] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, no, they won't be allowed a connection
[00:37] <Bob_Dole> |black| more or less. not everything will benefit though.
[00:38] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, thanks fpr all info.
[00:38] <Real_Christmas> *for
[00:38] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, cwillu.com for instance has a root account with no password
[00:38] <|black|> Bob_Dole, but still there is + not -ve in switching to 64 right?
[00:38] <cwillu_at_work> which disables it for most intents and purposes
[00:38] <nanotube> so, i just got my dell vostro a90, aka dell mini9 (woot!), preloaded with a dellified ubuntu 8.04 (meh). i want to upgrade to ubuntu karmic. but i don't much favor the 'netbook' interface, and am thinking of just using the 'standard' desktop ubuntu 9.10 install. question is: am i missing anything important by doing that (i.e, anything besides the (imho, crappy) netbook interface) ?
[00:38] <gui7> what's the easiest way to conver an avi to dvd?
[00:38] <Whizpopthat> minimec: Well I'll figure something out eventually i suppose.
[00:38] <rhett> i put this in an init file: exec command >> file.log 2>&1 , but i don't see it logging
[00:38] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, and you use keys? Wouldn't it be more secure to use both password AND key?
[00:38] <switch10_> gui7: devede
[00:39] <minimec> Whizpopthat: Do that reboot and cross your fingers ;)
[00:39] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, when you create a key, it prompts for a passphrase to encrypt the key itself
[00:39] <msmarc> is there a way to access the bios on power pc macs?
[00:39] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, adding an addition password doesn't buy much of anything, no
[00:39] <Bob_Dole> |black| a tiny amount of programs don't work on 64bit. last I heard, and the flash plugin is unstable if you use the default one.
[00:39] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, note that key-based logins bypasses the password completely
[00:39] <Whizpopthat> minimec: okay will do, if it doesn't work ill be back :P lol. Well, I'll still let you know anyways... Rebooting.
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> msmarc:  theres some special key seqwuence you use to get to the ppc macs firmware but they use different terms for the stuff
[00:40] <switch10_> gui7, http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[00:40] <|black|> Bob_Dole, thats agreeable.
[00:40] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, nice to know.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> ive never had Linux work decently on my old PPC imac. its now a doorstop basically.
[00:40] <newser> Ihave  a gps receiver attached to the computer via usb. How can I know if it is being detected or not?
[00:40] <|black|> Bob_Dole, one last question mate, can i upgrade to 64 or do i need re install?
[00:40] <Bob_Dole> |black| I think you gotta reinstall
[00:40] <msmarc> i'm running ubuntu on my power pc mac and it works pretty well
[00:41] <gui7> switch10_, ive tried devede, is it normal for it to take ages to encode?
[00:41] <|black|> newser, after plugging it in type: dmesg | tail in shell
[00:41] <msmarc> Only stuff I don't have is flash and I can't get it to hibernate
[00:41] <|black|> Bob_Dole, that sux a bit but will give it a shot
[00:41] <Real_Christmas> Another question. I want to helt a friend to install Vista in his computer but is it possible to do this remote using Linux in some way? He has got Vista recovery CDs but I want to do it through Linux remote. Is it possible?
[00:41] <switch10_> gui7:  ya it takes a while, but it is the best
[00:41] <gui7> switch10_, oki thx :D
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> msmarc:  in my old imacDV the silly display was always shifted over to the left about 4 characters.. made it a pain to use.
[00:41] <Bob_Dole> I have a PowerPC mac that can't get X to work. it makes me sad. :( I have another PPC mac that ought to just work though.
[00:42] <newser> |black|, what do you mean with tail in shell?
[00:42] <msmarc> I wish i could get my stupid mac to hibernate then I could use wake-on-lan
[00:42] <cwillu_at_work> newser, open a terminal and type "dmesg | tail" to show the last 10 lines of dmesg
[00:42] <|black|> newser, type this exactly in shell "dmesg | tail"
[00:42] <Bob_Dole> Linux is the only future for these old PowerPC Macs. Apple's abandoned them. :/
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> I tried to set up my old imac with OS-9 and just a telnet client/ssh client.. but it was hard to even find a  telnet/ssh client that wasent some sort of crippled 'share'ware.
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:  They make good doorstops
[00:43] <|black|> newser, dmesg is a command that shows you some hardware info like whats plugged in usb and what ubuntu did with that
[00:43] <msmarc> haha I want a server not a doorstop
[00:43] <|black|> newser, and when combined with | tail in the end, you discard the lenghty output and get only last 10 lines
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure they even make good servers...
[00:43] <|black|> newser, not a requirement just to make things more readable
[00:43] <Real_Christmas> Is it possible to reinstall Windows Vista using some kind of remote access to for example a Ubuntu Live CD? I want to reinstall Vista using Vista recovery CD but doing it remote from my computer having Ubuntu Linux.
[00:43] <newser> |black|, thanks
[00:44] <|black|> newser, no problem
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> Real_Christmas:  that would be a neat trick..
[00:44] <jabagawee> Real_Christmas, not that i know of
[00:44] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, I can think of approaches, but they probably wouldn't work without lots and lots of testing, and even then they probably still wouldln't work
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> use virtualbox, to access the actual physical hard drive and use it to boot xp. :)
[00:45] <preecher> is they a program for ubuntu that will let me "split" a movie and then burn it on 2 cd's
[00:45] <switch10_> preecher: avidemux will split it for you
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> preecher:  devede and i think avidumux let you make those old style cd-movie disks..
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> i forget what they were even called back then.
[00:45] <switch10_> preecher: whats the file type??
[00:46] <Snausages> Dr_Willis: VCDs
[00:46] <preecher> Swish, and Dr_Willis  thanks -)
[00:46] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Well, I think the easiest way would be to use the telephone, but the question is interesting. I will get into this problem many times, I think.
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> I cant ever recall actually watching a 'vcd'
[00:46] <Snausages> those are very harsh low res, but anything can decode them
[00:46] <switch10_> Dr_willlis: the quality was so bad
[00:46] <cwillu_at_work> Dr_Willis, we had some in highschool
[00:46] <Snausages> Dr_Willis: it's a regional thing...  they were huge in asia but found very little attention elsewhere.
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> Wife got a portable dvd player for xmas - that has a usb and sd slots.. it can play mpeg4 videos. :)
[00:47] <Whizpopthat> minimec: Reboot helped, my wireless works! I am on it currently with LAN cable unhooked :) Thanks so much for your help! Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year!
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> Videos have came a loooong way..
[00:47] <ilSoldier> do I really need ntfs-3g just to read/write to ntfs partitions?
[00:47]  * cwillu_at_work unplugs Whizpopthat
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  'just to' ? if you want to read/write.. you use ntfs-3g....
[00:48] <ilSoldier> oh ok :-)
[00:48] <Snausages> ilSoldier: I think there are other methods, but that 3g thing is by far the slickest
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  if you want read only - you dont need ntfs-3g.
[00:48] <jabagawee> what's the proper way to tar up a partition to back it up and untar after an install?
[00:48] <minimec> Whizpopthat: So you got your christmas gift... ;) Merry Christmas & a happy New Year too...
[00:48] <jabagawee> keeping permissions and symlinks and whatnot
[00:48] <ilSoldier> I try to install it but ubuntu says missing dependencies. maybe it's this trash usb stick version of ubuntuu?
[00:48] <Whizpopthat> minimec: Yup :) see ya.
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  you may want to check out the 'fsarchiver' tool. (but its not in the repos yet)
[00:49] <ilSoldier> I have ubuntu 6.10 - the edgy eft - released oct 06
[00:49] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, tar czvf backup.tgz /path/to/files
[00:49] <jabagawee> cwillu_at_work, thanks
[00:49] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, good tip
[00:49] <|black|> Bob_Dole, thanks mate you helped alot!
[00:49] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, hey, it's me again
[00:49]  * cwillu_at_work hides
[00:49] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, using relative paths is preferable
[00:49] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, still no luck with the monitor, windows couldn't read it either
[00:50] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, avoids the "burn up your rootfs by accident" syndrome of storing absolute paths in a tar
[00:50] <jabagawee> cwillu_at_work, explain?
[00:50] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, tarballs contain file paths
[00:50] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, i'm pretty close to giving up and just living with the current resolution
[00:50] <cwillu_at_work> if those paths are absolute, and you extract them without providing an explicit target location, it'll overwrite the existing files in those locations
[00:51] <|black|> cwillu_at_work, thanks mate
[00:51] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, any idea where nvidia-settings reads its options from though? it has one resolution more than the standard "Display" screen and xrandr
[00:51] <cwillu_at_work> RandomizeR, it does its own detection, causing all sorts of grief and hilarity
[00:51] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, yeah, i'll say!
[00:51] <gme30066> hieo! is anyone familiar with iptables? :-)
[00:51] <cwillu_at_work> specifically, it has its own methods of talking to the nvidia driver
[00:52] <trevor> does anyone in here have a good working knowledge of virtualbox
[00:52] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, yes
[00:52]  * cwillu_at_work is an administrative god :p
[00:53] <cwillu_at_work> or cwillu_at_work needs to sleep more, not sure which
[00:53] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, well, thanks again for your help, i'll probably go sleep now :(
[00:53] <trevor> i have windows 7 in vbox right now running, but i cannot install guest additions for seamless mode
[00:53] <trevor> is there something else i must do'?
[00:53] <RandomizeR> thanks for your help everyone :)
[00:53] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, where does it fail?
[00:53] <trevor> when i click it it does nothing
[00:54] <Pelo> can someone tell me how to add sound to my command line system
[00:54] <Pelo> ??
[00:54] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, when you click what?
[00:54] <RandomizeR> night..
[00:54] <trevor> install guest additions
[00:54] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, have you downloaded the guest additions?
[00:54] <trevor> probably not, where do i go to do that
[00:54] <trevor> i havent used vbox in over a year
[00:54] <Pelo> trevor, you need to dl the guest addition file from somehere and mout them as a cd for instalation , better ask in the channel of the VM you are using
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> virtualbox's site (sun).  It's supposed to be seamless, but there's version numbers in the path that change, etc
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, ^
[00:55] <gme30066> anyone familiar with iptables?
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, all it is is an iso that gets mounted as a cdrom, which autoruns a device driver installer;  you can do the same process by hand
[00:55] <trevor> sweet thanks cwillu_at_work
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, so it's just a matter of finding the download
[00:55] <MK13> does/did anyone have a problem where the speakers crackle when a sound is about to be played on Karmic?
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> gme30066, you'll have more luck if you just ask the question :p
[00:56] <adac> MK13, yes me. Did you solve it? It is really annoying
[00:56] <cwillu_at_work> adac, MK13, afaik it's pulseaudio being respawned after autosuspending due to idle;  I think this can be disabled in the pulseaudio config files
[00:56] <gme30066> okee ;-)  Do these rules make sense for protecting an Asterisk box that's publicly accessible? http://skitch.com/gellenburg/nc6ck/firewall-rules
[00:56] <MK13> adac, no i am just seeing if anyone else had it and if they have fixed it yet. What computer do you have?
[00:57] <cwillu_at_work> it may affect the ability of other applications that aren't alsa/pulse compatible to play sound thuough
[00:57] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, thnx will try that
[00:57] <Pelo> how do I tell what video driver I'm using again ?
[00:57] <cwillu_at_work> gme30066, the astericks channel can probably give a better idea about that
[00:57] <gme30066> yeah.
[00:57] <najifu> can you halp me?
[00:57] <adac> MK13, I see!
[00:57] <nanotube> so, i just got my dell vostro a90, aka dell mini9 (woot!), preloaded with a dellified ubuntu 8.04 (meh). i want to upgrade to ubuntu karmic. but i don't much favor the 'netbook' interface, and am thinking of just using the 'standard' desktop ubuntu 9.10 install. question is: am i missing anything important by doing that (i.e, anything besides the (imho, crappy) netbook interface) ?
[00:57] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, top of /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there's probably better places :p
[00:57] <gme30066> i can't join #asterisk. I'm getting this error: http://skitch.com/gellenburg/nc6p1/colloquy
[00:57] <Pelo> najifu, you need to ask a quesiton
[00:58] <najifu> my ubuntu eror.
[00:58] <cwillu_at_work> gme30066, register your nick
[00:58] <cwillu_at_work> !register | gme30066
[00:59] <adac> MK13, you mean my hardware? Well selfbuilt: quadcore, 2 gigs ram, nivdia gforce card.
[00:59] <Pelo> najifu,  you need to state your problem completely , if you don'T get an answer right away , be patient and ask again after a few minutes, It's a busy channel here,  but you need at tell us about the problem  "my ubuntu error" doesn't tell us much
[00:59] <najifu> hello..
[00:59] <MK13> adac, well i was trying to see if it had to do w/ specific audio cards... but if cwillu_at_work is right then it is pulseaudio that is doing it itself
[00:59] <|Infected|> Hello.
[01:00] <gme30066> cool thanks
[01:00] <adac> MK13, It must be a software 'bug' Cause i only experienced that problem since my last bigger upgrade
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  you wont miss much. You might have to some how disable 'maximus'  thats the app that fullscreens everything.  It can cause issues with the normal ubuntu gnome desktop
[01:01] <|black|> any one knows that migrating from 32-64 requires a fresh install or i can upgrade ubuntu?
[01:01] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, you wouldn'T have any notion on how to install sound support on a cli machine would you ?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  you cant upgrade from 32bit to 64bit
[01:02] <|black|> Dr_Willis, Any idea to save my current setup and restore it?
[01:02] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, apt-get install alsa-soimethingsomething
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  I just keep /home/ on its own partition. and archive any configs i want to save.
[01:02] <freebse> Guys I experienced the same problems on GNU/Debian unstable and the only reason so far is to fully disable pulse, a blacklist is what we are going to do, as far as I know right now it is not really fixable in an easy way
[01:02] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-tools
[01:02] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, where would the config file for autosuspending/etc. be?
[01:02] <sebsebseb> freebse: #debian
[01:03] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, you are an angel
[01:03] <sebsebseb> freebse: oh nevermind
[01:03] <cwillu_at_work> MK13, with the rest of the config files :p
[01:03] <freebse> sebsebseb: I just said :) nevermind
[01:03] <cwillu_at_work> MK13, start in /etc, look for pulseaudio'y looking things :p
[01:03] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: well, i take it if i do a fresh install of 9.10 desktop edition, maximus won't even be there? (and if it is, i bet unchecking it from the session startup list will do the trick anyway)
[01:03] <|black|> Dr_Willis, alright... So I am downloading right now it says AMD64 in file name, is that also intented for intel core 2 duo?
[01:03] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, i don't see anysettings like it... i think it is /etc/pulse/
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  correct. Maximus is part of the netbook remix.
[01:03] <freebse> sebsebseb: I just wanted to inform guys that on the same software base on sid we have the same problem
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  amd64 means '64bit'
[01:04] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: well, ok, i'm going for the std desktop edition then. wish me luck. :)
[01:04] <cwillu_at_work> MK13, grep suspend /etc/pulse/*
[01:04] <|black|> Dr_Willis, still thats confusing tho :/
[01:04] <sebsebseb> freebse: well I hadn't read that stuff before typing
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  no its not..  amd had 64bit first.. so thats what it was named...
[01:04] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, yes.  Intel got to be the default name for 32bit, amd gets to be the default name for 64 bit :p
[01:05]  * Dr_Willis waits for 128bit
[01:05] <|black|> Dr_Willis, cwillu_at_work: The picture comes in focus :D
[01:05]  * |black| wakes Dr_Willis up!
[01:05] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, much more effective than searching with my own eye, thanks
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> part of knowing computers and linux.. = knowing the history of computers and linux.
[01:05] <cwillu_at_work> that's what intel gets for making a 64bit platform that wasn't compatible in any meaningful way with their existing 32bit arch :p
[01:05] <freebse> The Problem is Iceweasel or like you say FIrefox... the bug is known, and it is on the biglist allready... anyway to fix it disable pulse
[01:05]  * Dr_Willis still wants to know where the N went in the 'umount' (unmount) command.
[01:05] <|black|> I agree first true 64bit revolution goes to AMD
[01:06] <cwillu_at_work> freebse, sorry, fix what?
[01:06] <adac> Dr_Willis, what did N option do?
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> adac:  the command is 'unmount' but its spelt 'umount' with no n
[01:07] <freebse> cwillu_at:work: no sund for Iceweasel or other allplications while pulse is installed and other known problems
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> I also find it odd that nvidia-xconfig is a CLI app and nvida-settings is a X gui app.. :)
[01:07] <adac> Dr_Willis, ahh now I see ;) hahah I guess it is already too late here. I should go to bed soon :P
[01:07] <cwillu_at_work> freebse, that's not a problem we're experiencing
[01:07] <cwillu_at_work> I can assure you that I have sound in firefox via pulseaudio
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> Pulse audio and firefox works here.
[01:08] <|black|> When they dont i use killall pulseaudio :D
[01:08] <freebse> I can too, but this is a major problem, anyway ignor me in that case ;)
[01:08] <ilSoldier> hey
[01:08] <Hydrosis> Pulse hates me.  Doesnt work for games, I get errors in my console with mplayer vids etc.
[01:08] <ilSoldier> I installed ntfs-3g and ntfs config
[01:09] <cwillu_at_work> freebse, done and done
[01:09] <|black|> freebse, try "killall pulseaudio"
[01:09] <Socom> hello there ^_^ ?
[01:09] <Hydrosis> killall or pkill or xkill should do the job for individual processes
[01:09] <minimec> freebse: If you have some problems with your pulseaudio configuratioin, first install pavucontrol. It  gives you a lot of info and options for pulseaudio.
[01:09] <|black|> Socom, speak!
[01:09] <Socom> how are you doing ? black :) ?
[01:09] <|black|> Socom, I am half asleep if its not for my cigarettes....
[01:09] <ilSoldier> how do I know if ntfs-3g is working fine on my computer?
[01:10] <freebse> minimec: thx a lot, but this is not the problem over here on some installations
[01:10] <cwillu_at_work> Hydrosis, xkill isn't like pkill or killall, it only kills the process by the coincidence that most x apps die when they're disconnected from x
[01:10] <Hydrosis> cwillu_at_work, thanks for the info. I'll read up on the command more later.
[01:10] <Socom> this is my first time
[01:10] <ilSoldier> I did man ntfs-3g
[01:10] <ilSoldier> seems to be there
[01:10] <Socom> I want to be Game Developer
[01:11] <|black|> ilSoldier, try deleting C:/Windows
[01:11] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, don't
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> islington:  use the ntfs-3g command to mount a ntfs fiklesystem
[01:11] <MK13> adac, i no longer have the crackle :D
[01:11] <marcel> Hi all together. Is anyone here who has some experience with nvidia drivers for graphical cards and would help me get compiz running?
[01:11] <ilSoldier> well I have to be able to mount the partition first!
[01:11] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, don't make me sic the ops on you :p
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> islington:  or use -t ntfs-3g when mouinting it
[01:11] <|black|> ilSoldier, I hope you understood the joke part?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  ntfs-3g is the command that can moint them..
[01:11] <`mOOse`> anybody ever inject an iso with additional files in ubuntu? If so, what did you use to do it?
[01:11] <adac> MK13, :) Can you post your changes on a pastie?
[01:11] <|black|> cwillu_at_work, I dare not :)
[01:12] <dan2> hey guys
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> !info kiso | `mOOse`
[01:12] <|black|> Socom, its a long journey son
[01:12] <`mOOse`> thanks doc :-)
[01:12] <Socom> I have problems with partitions !! swap and / and root and and and
[01:12] <dan2> I have a 1080p screen attached, but every time I login in takes it from what looks like 1080p in GDM, to 1680x1050 and I have to continuously do this everytime I log in and out
[01:12] <dan2> is there a solution to this?
[01:12] <dan2> (change it to 1080p)
[01:12] <MK13> adac, sure just give me a sec
[01:12] <dan2> I tried rewriting X config 100x
[01:12] <dan2> doesn't work
[01:12] <|black|> any one interested in some art?
[01:12] <dan2> it's labeled properly
[01:12] <FloodBot2> dan2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <ilSoldier> well okay ntfs-3g is there but it doesn't seem to be working with the mount command
[01:13] <Hydrosis> dan2 are you trying to change screen resolution?
[01:13] <adac> MK13, kk
[01:13] <|black|> ilSoldier, what mount command are you giving exactly?
[01:13] <Mistletoe> Hey, im having problems with the Karmic live cd
[01:13] <dan2> Hydrosis, I want the screen resolution to stay 1080p when I log in and out, but it won't do that, it always reverts to 1680
[01:13] <dan2> Hydrosis, at the login screen for GDM it looks like it's 1080, then it downsizes
[01:13] <ilSoldier> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp
[01:14] <marcel> who can help me getting my nvidia graphical card running?
[01:14] <trevor> i should probably just be running xp in a virtualmachine, 32 bit 7 seems like a little much
[01:14] <|black|> ilSoldier, and whats the output of that?
[01:14] <Socom> black , I like photoshop
[01:14] <Hydrosis> I have the same problem but with 800x600.  I can manually change it but it doesnt do a damn thing if I restart.  Changing the .config fils does nothing either.  Read the last part of this and see if you can figure out a solution with this data. - http://chvnx.com/post/280205781/change-screen-resolution-in-linux-ubuntu
[01:14] <Hydrosis> dan2
[01:15] <dan2> k
[01:15] <ilSoldier> |black| pastebin.com/m27c8af56
[01:15] <dan2> thanks
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  you did make the directory /home/ubuntu/xp first?
[01:15] <MK13> the really long "###' lines show what i commented out, and show the beginning of each file
[01:16] <ilSoldier> Dr_Willis yes sir
[01:16] <minimec> marcel: first... try to run >Administration >Hardware Driver from the menu...
[01:16] <MK13> adac,  the really long "###' lines show what i commented out, and show the beginning of each file : http://pastebin.com/d755554d9
[01:16] <|black|> ilSoldier, thats strange its giving output like you are typing just mount
[01:16] <ilSoldier> Dr_Willis even if I didn't, same thing happens
[01:17] <ilSoldier> |black| when I type just mount it says "mount: only root can do that"
[01:17] <|black|> ilSoldier, I tried: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp and output is as it should be...
[01:17] <Mistletoe> Im having problems with the 9.10 live cd, when I boot up, I can only see Exampls, Install Ubuntu 9.10, and the wallpaper
[01:17] <Mistletoe> Nothing else
[01:17] <|black|> ilSoldier, i mean sudo mount
[01:17] <Mistletoe> Examples*
[01:17] <duffydack> ok thats just sad... ffmpeg + medibuntu + flv to mp3 = no way...
[01:17] <cwillu_at_work> Mistletoe, no panel?
[01:17] <Mistletoe> No
[01:17] <imaginativeone> hi all...
[01:17] <|black|> Mistletoe, there's all that there is
[01:17] <|black|> imaginativeone, hey
[01:17] <imaginativeone> how do I access my dvd writer via terminal?
[01:17] <cwillu_at_work> no, there should be a panel
[01:17] <krishn1> Sound not working in firefox browser when I open youtube
[01:17] <duffydack> I had to compile the latest to do it.  thats really crappy...
[01:17] <Hydrosis> |black| is your NTSF it's own drive or is it a partition?
[01:18] <cwillu_at_work> Mistletoe, how much memory in the machine?  is the cd still doing anything?
[01:18] <Mistletoe> I dont see one
[01:18] <duffydack> flv to mp3? wtF?
[01:18] <Mistletoe> 1GB
[01:18] <|black|> imaginativeone, what you want to do?
[01:18] <Mistletoe> And is the CD still doing anything, no
[01:18] <Mistletoe> it isnt
[01:18] <krishn1> I am using FF3 ,and sound not working when I open youtube
[01:18] <|black|> Hydrosis, I have single hard and I have many partitions ntfs, and ext3, 4
[01:18] <adac> MK13, perfect, thx a lot! will try it out tomorrow immediately. Ok I'll go to bed it's already late. cu!!
[01:18] <imaginativeone> I have a dvd with photos on it
[01:18] <Hydrosis> daffyduck, there are FireFox scripts that take YouTube videos and export .mp3 audio from them,.
[01:18] <imaginativeone> BUT
[01:18] <imaginativeone> it has a huge crack on it
[01:18] <imaginativeone> I'm hoping to get as many photos as I can
[01:19] <|black|> imaginativeone, dude be wary coz it might break and damage your writer
[01:19] <imaginativeone> |black|: did you get that?
[01:19] <imaginativeone> ok
[01:19] <imaginativeone> I'll have to take the risk
[01:19] <marcel> minimec: Hi. If I do so, I just get the usual window - just with an empty list. (I use Karmic and the geforce 105m)
[01:19] <|black|> imaginativeone, happened to me once, but if you are willing then, "cd /media/cdrom"
[01:19] <imaginativeone> thanks
[01:19] <|black|> and you are in cdrom root directory
[01:20] <|black|> imaginativeone, if you have more than one drives
[01:20] <|black|> keep trying with "cd /media/cdrom0"
[01:20] <|black|> cdrom1 etc
[01:20] <|black|> hope that helps
[01:20] <|black|> any one up for a smoke?
[01:21] <minimec> marcel: first look at the search results on the net tell me
[01:22] <minimec> marcel: ... that your geforce 105m is a little problematic on linux. Try to find some more infos on the net. That could help.
[01:23] <zaphira13> HEy guys... which is the best partition setup for a ubuntu intallation?
[01:23] <marcel> minimec: I've been trying hard... cant find anything usefull
[01:23] <edbian> zaphira13: Well it's a matter of opinion partly.
[01:24] <edbian> zaphira13: The OS needs about 6 GB to be very comfortable.  Above that is just what you add with personal files
[01:24] <phix> zaphira13: use LVM
[01:24] <Ubuntu_User> How do I reset Wine's settings again in terminal?
[01:24] <phix> zaphira13: allows you to resize and create additional filesystems on the fly
[01:25] <phix> Ubuntu_User: rm -fr .wine
[01:25] <zaphira13> What is "LVM"?
[01:25] <phix> zaphira13: Logical Volume Manager
[01:25] <phix> or something like that
[01:25] <minimec> zaphira13: I use about 13gb for '/', 2GB 'Swap'.. the rest /home. If you use your computer as Web/mysql Server... + 3GB '/var'
[01:25] <phix> I start off with 10G for / but using LVM allows me to resize it if i need to in the future
[01:25] <cwillu_at_work> zaphira13, logical volume manager.  You probably don't want to use it
[01:25] <Church> LVM is the best thing out there for flexible diskspace managment
[01:25] <`mOOse`> Dr_Willis: Kiso worked perfectly - thanks again
[01:25] <edbian> zaphira13: linux volume manager.  It lets you create virtual partitions that span multiple hdds it lets you do lets of neat tricks
[01:26] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, 2gb of swap is probably excessive :p
[01:26] <phix> cwillu_at_work: Everyone should use LVM, it is so useful!
[01:26] <nfo4286> lvm?
[01:26]  * Church loves fact that linux lvm command syntax is almost same as in hpux
[01:26] <phix> nfo4286: you should use it too
[01:26] <zaphira13> YEah well, i usually use 10GB /, 6GB swap and the rest as home
[01:26] <edbian> phix: I disagree.  lvm is not perfect for everybody
[01:26] <nfo4286> well what is it?
[01:27] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: maybe.. but if you have a 60 GB hardisk and you want to do work with BIG files... ;)
[01:27] <phix> edbian: true. that is why evms exists too :)
[01:27] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, if your editor deals with big files by trying to pull them all into memory, get a different editor
[01:27] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, specifically, mmap'ing files uses no swap, because the file itself is the backing store :p
[01:28] <phix> nfo4286: it allows you to create filesystems that youcan resize on the fly if you want
[01:28] <nfo4286> hmmm gparted does the same thing no?
[01:28] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: So... What would be your max? 1GB or 512MB?
[01:28] <phix> nfo4286: it also support snapshots, meaning you can take a snapshot of say your email spool filesystem so you can back it up without needing to stop your email server
[01:29] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, unless you need to do hibernation, I'd generally stay around 1gb, maybe less
[01:29] <cwillu_at_work> we _really_ need to get something to dynamically create and remove swapfiles based on demand some day
[01:29] <Church> pvmove of lvm also is nice thingie to play with. with easily moving online filesystems between disks
[01:29] <gapi> witch wlan card is best in master mode for AP
[01:29] <`mOOse`> cwillu_at_work: and manipulate casper-rw too!
[01:29] <Church> cwillu_at_work: IIRC there was some project like that
[01:30] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: I am suspend/hibernating a lot... That's why I use 1:1 RAM:Swap ;)
[01:30] <cwillu_at_work> Church, there's been several :p
[01:30] <phix> nfo4286: yes but LVM is designed to be resized. normal partition are not, gparted cannot resize a mounted filesystem, LVM can
[01:30] <phix> ok well gparted can but you will loose data :)
[01:30] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, you may need more than 1:1 actually, depending on how much dirty memory there actually is
[01:31] <nfo4286> lol hmm sounds risky....resizing a mounted partition
[01:31] <gapi> now i have  one netgear wpn311 i think and no go in master mode
[01:31] <ilSoldier> woohoo
[01:31] <ilSoldier> I finally did it
[01:31] <ilSoldier> thank you guys
[01:31] <Church> lvm is like functionality of gparted/software raid united and with way more usuable syntax and ease of use
[01:31] <|black|> ilSoldier, happy for you
[01:31] <Pelo> I don't get this thing I had it working properly a minute ago
[01:31] <Church> + most of lvm actions can be done online
[01:32] <nanotube> trying to use usb-creator (on ubuntu 8.10), but it fails to detect my usb hdd, so nothing shows up in the list of usb disks. any ideas on this?
[01:32] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: I had no problems until now, but I agree with you... The first time I did a 2GB Swap I was asking myself some questions too ;)
[01:32] <zaphira13> I have 3GB of ram, how big should my swap be??
[01:32] <Church> without any need to unmount filesystems and alike
[01:32] <cwillu_at_work> zaphira13, how much memory do you have?
[01:32] <Church> zaphira13: depends on usage of course. there are some that live without swap at all :)0
[01:32] <Sinclair86> yea
[01:32] <Sinclair86> swap is mostly for older somputers
[01:32] <`mOOse`> I don't use swap
[01:32] <cwillu_at_work> Sinclair86, no, not true
[01:33] <Sinclair86> MOSTLY
[01:33] <`mOOse`> (but I'm using a flashdrive persistent install and have 1 gig ram)
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> no swap is just silly, waste of memory keeping things you're not actually using when you could use that memory to cache filesystem pages
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> Sinclair86, and mostly is just as wrong :p
[01:33] <Church> zaphira13: first describe how you're gonna use that box, what apps gonna run and such
[01:33] <`mOOse`> not silly - impossible ;-)
[01:33] <Sinclair86> google.com
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> `mOOse`, no, it's quite possible
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> just... silly
[01:33] <`mOOse`> swap and casper-rw? yea?
[01:33] <`mOOse`> cool - point me!
[01:34] <zaphira13> I want to use sound picture and video editting programs 3d modeling etc
[01:35] <jarray521> Is there a public aide database for all the static files in the Ubuntu repository that can be used to check the integrity of files on one's local machine?
[01:36] <zaphira13> Church: I want to use sound picture and video editting programs 3d modeling etc
[01:36] <minimec> zaphira13: Well I would do 1:1 RAM:Swap... But that is my opinion... ;)
[01:36] <Church> zaphira13: dunno. imho 1-2 gigs should be enough to swapout idling/unused background stuff .. and if your box will actively swap way more then that, adding ram would do way better then insaneously grow swap and watch hdd blinking lights instead of doing some actual job on computer :)0
[01:37] <freeksh0w86> anyone know how to get past the "unable to find medium with live file system" error when trying to boot Ubuntu 9.10 desktop i386?
[01:37] <Church> zaphira13: 1:1 RAM:Swap would be needed if you need suspend to disk. otherwise imho overkill
[01:37] <freeksh0w86> other linux CDs didn't give me that error (but i can't use them for other reasons) and i checked the md5sum so i'm sure the CD is ok
[01:38] <gapi> bie
[01:38] <gapi> bye
[01:38] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86: booting from cd or flashdrive install?
[01:38] <myjiang0070> 大家好
[01:38] <freeksh0w86> a CD i burned as an iso image
[01:38] <zaphira13> Ummmm Ok, can you please fellow family members explain to me how swap is used by the system?
[01:38] <freeksh0w86> i burn other CD the exact same way and they booted
[01:38] <syk> !cn
[01:39] <Hydrosis> zaphira13, I believe you could think of it as a sort of extra memory.  Somone else can elaborate.
[01:39] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86:  did it ever work?
[01:39] <myjiang0070> exit
[01:39] <edbian> zaphira13: Swap is part of the hard drive that the system sets aside to use when the ram fills up.  If the ram filled completely then the system would panic and crash.  Windows causes swap the "page file"
[01:39] <|black|> zaphira13, you mean swap space?
[01:40] <edbian> zaphira13: windows calls* swap the...
[01:40] <freeksh0w86> `mOOse`, i burned other distro CD's and older Ubuntu CDs, and they all either work or have entirely different problems
[01:40] <Hydrosis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[01:40] <freeksh0w86> i'm just wondering if i need to specify a new boot option before loading the disc...
[01:40] <|black|> zaphira13, what edbian said... Its basically a reserved space of hard disk in case of your ram is all filled, you run too many apps, then it switches the least active app from ram to hard (SWAPS)
[01:40] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86: but did this particular cd work? Because you might have a hosed file - you have to check the MD5's
[01:40] <freeksh0w86> i did check the md5sum
[01:41] <`mOOse`> k..that's what I was wondering - to make sure you didn't have corrupt files
[01:41] <zaphira13> Ok thanks :D
[01:41] <Church> zaphira13: there are 2 main points in linux swapping. 1) if there are some idling processes with almost no activity, it's better to swap them out and ram be used for something better, eg. file cache .. 2) for cases when you ran more stuff then fits in your ram .. you can use swap as kind of extra memory .. but you have to take into account, that disks are by magnitude of more then 2 orders slower then ram .. so heavily used swap = very slow.
[01:41] <craigbass1976> Anyone else noticed the Santa hat on vlc player icon?
[01:42] <freeksh0w86> i suspect the fact that i have a "dead" CD-ROM drive still plugged at the top (the working one is setup below) might confuse it
[01:42] <freeksh0w86> but i'm not sure
[01:42] <|black|> Church, way more than 2 :)
[01:42] <`mOOse`> quite possible
[01:42] <Church> i said - "main"
[01:42] <freeksh0w86> i just need a distro with working versions of Linux iPod sync software... looks like Ubuntu is bleeding edge and current so I hope to get it working somehow
[01:43] <|black|> freeksh0w86, rythmbox works I think
[01:43] <cwillu_at_work> freeksh0w86, for what kind of ipod?
[01:43] <freeksh0w86> i can't get gtkpod or amarok working with an iPod on PcLinuxOS, and rhythmbox won't even load in that distro...
[01:43] <freeksh0w86> i think pclinuxos uses old stable rpms
[01:43] <`mOOse`> I can't get amarok to work either :(
[01:44] <rumpsy> update repo
[01:44] <freeksh0w86> cwillu_at_work, i think it is some sort of 8g nano thing i dunno
[01:44] <krishn1> how to stop completely a cronjob
[01:44] <zaphira13> Which is better and why? ext3 or ext4?
[01:44] <Church> zaphira13: if takeing out file cache and just counting how much programs use themselves .. if it's > then 1.5x ram, then box is mostly spending time reading forth and back to/from swap, then actually doing job .. so for very heavy swapping one is better of with adjusting workload of apps or with adding ram
[01:44] <rumpsy> by updating repo you can get i thjink so!
[01:44] <cwillu_at_work> freeksh0w86, should work out of the box with rhythmbox in ubuntu
[01:44] <cwillu_at_work> zaphira13, ext4, being the later revision of ext3
[01:44] <freeksh0w86> cwillu_at_work, ok, i'm gonna run the CD check thing at the boot option and make sure the CD burned well
[01:44] <cwillu_at_work> extents allow for more space efficient usage of large drives, among other things
[01:44] <Hydrosis> rhythmbox works all the time, except when I add a lot fo new music to my archive.  Sometimes the audio dies and it says I dont ave the proper codecs installed.
[01:45] <freeksh0w86> if that doesn't work, perhaps i will unplug or re-locate my CD drive on the IDE bus
[01:45] <edbian> Hydrosis: Why don't you install the codecs you need silly
[01:45] <`mOOse`> if it's dead why do you keep it plugged in?
[01:45] <freeksh0w86> it died not too long ago i just forgot to unplug it
[01:45] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[01:45] <freeksh0w86> but the one below it works
[01:45] <craigbass1976> `mOOse`, keeps dust out.  :)
[01:45] <johntramp> hi i want to install ubuntu to a second partition on my netbook. this doesn't have a cd drive and i don't have a usb stick spare. what would be the best way to do the install? i guess there is a way to install from the distro i already have running?
[01:46] <freeksh0w86> yeah that too
[01:46] <`mOOse`> craigbass1976 :-)
[01:46] <Hydrosis> edbian: because I have them, it just lies to me like the dirty, low down, dirty mo-fo rhythmbox is.
[01:46] <`mOOse`> makes a good coffee mug holder too
[01:46] <`mOOse`> ...and you can scare the crap out of the cat with em too
[01:46] <edbian> Hydrosis: I saw rhythmbox hanging out what the wrong sort of crowd in a dark alley the other day
[01:47] <neezer> is there a conky channel?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> johntramp:  check out 'debootstrap' -  Good Luck
[01:47] <johntramp> ok, thanks Dr_Willis
[01:47] <Hydrosis> edbian: I dont doubt it.  Don;t need that riff-raff 'round here.
[01:47] <rumpsy> Any Indians!
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  not that ive noticed.. but the homepage/forums are very good for conky
[01:47] <craigbass1976> `mOOse`, remember the coke glass holder joke about 11 years ago?  It was an exe and when you clicked it, your cd drive popped open
[01:48] <Hydrosis> craigbass1976, I remember that.  I remember a lot of useless thinsg thanks to computers and the internet.
[01:48] <neezer> thanks dr. w
[01:48] <neezer> I'll check it oiut.
[01:48] <`mOOse`> it's a very old old joke yea...man...that sure makes me feel good to remember that stuff heh
[01:48] <cwillu_at_work> offtopic chatter -
[01:48] <Hydrosis> neezer:  #conky is a channel with help there
[01:48] <cwillu_at_work> offtopic chatter -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:48] <neezer> great.
[01:48] <Hydrosis> I got help @ #conky 2 days ago.
[01:49] <edbian> Hydrosis: conky is neat
[01:49] <|black|> any one tried stellarium?
[01:49] <Hydrosis> edbian: let me take a screenshot of my conky config for you.  2 secs
[01:49] <|black|> Hydrosis, show me too
[01:50] <neezer> I'm just getting into conky, but so far I like it.
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> My Conky work - http://drop.io/dr_willis   :)
[01:50] <edbian> Hydrosis: awesome!
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  its a neat tool.. and very annoying in many ways. :)
[01:50] <neezer> I want to try to find a way to use ssh to see the auth.log file for my server
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  that shouldent be too hard.
[01:50] <neezer> while i am still on my lappy that is.
[01:51] <craigbass1976> neezer, is it var/log/secure?
[01:51] <neezer> server is at home, and lappy is with me away from home.
[01:51] <Hydrosis> I love conky, it's a must-have for my conputers.  For windows, there is a close alternative with a GUI called Samurize or something to that effect,.
[01:51] <|black|> neezer, its no big deal
[01:51] <neezer> just the var/log/auth.log file.
[01:51] <Hydrosis> my desktop: http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1162/screenshot5z.png
[01:51] <neezer> really just the last 5 or 10 lines.
[01:51] <cwillu_at_work> neezer, can you log into the server via ssh?
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  conky can do that. of course tehres non-conky ways of monitoring a log file also
[01:52] <freeksh0w86> i did Check cd for defects, and a few minutes later i scroll over to the F1 console, it says "stdin error 0" then (intramfs) can't find medium with live file system"
[01:52] <neezer> yeah. i am actually logged into it right now.
[01:52] <neezer> it is running fah and I was checking the progress.
[01:53] <Hydrosis> here's my conky configs.  2 conky's running, one for system stats and network info and another for RSS feeds.  If you guys want my scripts, just ask.   http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1162/screenshot5z.png
[01:53] <edbian> Hydrosis: I love your desktop!
[01:53] <neezer> It is just a media server and barely ever has load on it.
[01:54] <Hydrosis> I love beer.
[01:55] <`mOOse`> mOO
[01:56] <hiexpo> my ? is how do i make a launcher for a program
[01:57] <edbian> hiexpo: You came to the right place!
[01:57] <hiexpo> kool
[01:57] <edbian> hiexpo: Do you know the terminal command to start the app?
[01:57] <hiexpo> yep
[01:57]  * Pelo buts out
[01:58] <Hydrosis> hiexpo: right click on pannel and choose add to pallen, then choose to add custom app
[01:58] <hiexpo> i get tired of typing all the time
[01:58] <Hydrosis> pannel**
[01:58] <Hydrosis> Dyslexia.
[01:58] <Hydrosis> :(
[01:58] <hiexpo> ok
[01:58] <edbian> hiexpo: Right click somewhere and select "create launcher"
[01:58] <edbian> hiexpo: it doesn't have to be in the panel
[01:59] <Hydrosis> I assumed he wants one in pannel, or else why have its own launcher?  That's just me, though.
[01:59] <edbian> hiexpo: You can also make a new menu entry but that is slightly different instructions
[01:59] <rumpsy> dpkg is replying me
[01:59] <hiexpo> no i like the little small apps
[01:59] <rumpsy> Sorry dpkg is not replying me
[02:00] <neezer> I have done many searches over the past month trying to find a beginners tutorial for conky, but can't seem to find one.
[02:00] <edbian> hiexpo: in the panel you mean?
[02:00] <hiexpo> yes
[02:00] <hiexpo> sorry
[02:00] <neezer> does anyone here have a link where I can start from the beginning on how it works?
[02:00] <hiexpo> so add new
[02:00] <hiexpo> got that
[02:01] <hiexpo> than custom
[02:01] <aaa7> Can anyone offer GNU Classpath installing support?
[02:01] <Hydrosis> neezer:  To learn conky you need to study other people's scripts and also the official conky guide.  That is how I learned.  Hold on, I will upload my conky config and share it with you.  It will look exactl like the one on the right side of this screenshot. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1162/screenshot5z.png  -  hold on for two minutes.
[02:02] <edbian> neezer: man conky is helpful
[02:02] <neezer> cool.
[02:02] <turtle_> i'm using IMAP Evolution for my gmail account, and jpegs are not displaying properly, anyone got a suggestion?
[02:02] <hiexpo> ok it opened the new little window
[02:02] <neezer> for my conky on my lappy i just copied and pasted one in, and it is ok, but that doesn't teach you how to make it any better.
[02:03] <hiexpo> now what?
[02:03] <edbian> neezer: Look at it!
[02:03] <IdleOne> neezer: best way ( for me ) backup the working script then edit all you want and see what happens
[02:03] <edbian> hiexpo: you've got the custom launcher dialog up?  In the command line put in the terminal command for the app
[02:03] <hiexpo> ok 1 sec
[02:03] <aline> a masters degree from the University of Phoenix is kinda horseshit
[02:04] <neezer> thanks guys and gals if applicable.
[02:04] <zaphira13> What could be better to install in my Netbook?? UNR Or the classic Ubuntu for desktop?
[02:04] <aline> but everyone from work is getting one
[02:04] <hiexpo> ok
[02:05] <Hydrosis> neezer: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MFLLJMNA
[02:05] <microhaxo> Are there more advanced power management features for netbooks via gnome in 9.10?
[02:05] <Hydrosis> neezer: http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html  -- read this for all conky variables you need.
[02:05] <hiexpo> i tried that before and it didnt work on another program
[02:06] <hiexpo> ok the command is in
[02:06] <edbian> hiexpo: It was probably a typo then
[02:06] <edbian> then that's all you really need
[02:06] <hiexpo> oh
[02:06] <mobi-sheep> zaphira13: UNR is same as classic desktop with revamped UI.
[02:06] <hiexpo> is that it
[02:06] <neezer> thanks hydro
[02:06] <edbian> hiexpo: That should be it!
[02:07] <Hydrosis> No problem neezer, that's why I'm here.
[02:07] <neezer> i guess i'll just backup the original and start fiddling.
[02:07] <Hydrosis> :D
[02:07] <hiexpo> ok let me try it
[02:07] <neezer> so what is the command to restart conky to check my changes.
[02:07] <edbian> hiexpo: Fingers crossed!
[02:07] <Hydrosis> I use "killall conky"
[02:07] <neezer> mine just comes up when i start my computer. I don't want to reboot 1000 times.
[02:07] <mobi-sheep> neezer: Kill conky and edit it. Start conky again.
[02:07] <hiexpo> ya failed
[02:07] <Hydrosis> then, I save my gedit file TWICE in a row.
[02:07] <Hydrosis> safer than sorry
[02:08] <edbian> hiexpo: Does it need to run  in the terminal or is it graphical?
[02:08] <edbian> hiexpo: There isn't a typo right?
[02:08] <hiexpo> interminal
[02:08] <zaphira13> YEah seems like it as it has a choice that lets u use the cassic ubuntu Desktop but is it really the same?
[02:08] <edbian> hiexpo: Right click that panel applet and select the properties
[02:08] <hiexpo> but it launches outside the terminal so i don't think so
[02:09] <hiexpo> did that
[02:09] <edbian> hiexpo: change it to "run in terminal"
[02:09] <hiexpo> ok
[02:09] <edbian> hiexpo: What is the app?  What do you mean it runs outside the terminal??
[02:09] <hiexpo>  and also its a two line command
[02:10] <neezer> so it was a while ago when I installed this and I don't remember where my format file is....any guesses as to where it would be?
[02:10] <neezer> no conky in my home folder
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: You need to learn to make it a one line command
[02:10] <hiexpo> its jdownloader
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: I thin you can do that with && between the two commands
[02:10] <IdleOne> neezer: hit ctrl-h to show hidden files/folders
[02:10] <hiexpo> ok i will try
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: "command1 && command2"
[02:10] <hiexpo> ok
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: I THINK
[02:11] <neezer> ah... is it .conkyrc?
[02:11] <IdleOne> yup
[02:11] <neezer> cause i also found /etc/conky/conky.conf
[02:11] <neezer> is that one just a stock config file?
[02:11] <Hydrosis> neexer, it's hidden .conkyrc
[02:12] <edbian> neezer: The one in .conkyrc is the one that gets read from.
[02:12] <microhaxo> So IdleOne, does gnome offer any more power management than whats in the menu?  its not too in depth.
[02:12] <Hydrosis> conkycr in home is your main file.
[02:12] <Hydrosis> .conkyrc **
[02:12] <neezer> yep.
[02:12] <IdleOne> microhaxo: wouldn't know honestly. I'm sure there are apps you can install
[02:13] <Hydrosis> Replace that for anotehr conky, or you can run the second conky file as an executable script from tehconsole.
[02:13] <IdleOne> microhaxo: I don't worry bout such things :)
[02:13] <Hydrosis> Wow, sorry if you guy's cant understand my poor spelling and grammar.  Ive been hitting the beers all night while I chat.
[02:14] <neezer> i'm not quite pickin' up what you're putting down hydrosis
[02:14] <IdleOne> Hydrosis: will let you know when it's time to turn off irc hehe
[02:14] <edbian>  Hydrosis: Don't drink alone!
[02:15] <microhaxo> Lol
[02:15] <microhaxo> well i have this netbook, i want to make sure i make use of efficiency!
[02:16] <mobi-sheep> microhaxo: If you're using Gnome or KDE, that is not efficiency DE.
[02:16] <IdleOne> microhaxo: I think UNR is configured to use your netbook to it's fullest potential
[02:16] <edbian> microhaxo: a tiling manger is much more efficient.  awesome or open box or some such
[02:16] <edbian> microhaxo: unr is great for netbooks
[02:16] <zaphira13> How can i Downgrade a Version?
[02:16] <Hydrosis> It's true, you can actually drink your sorrows away (as long as you have a computer to play with).  Merry Chrisma-Hanu-Kwanza-Rama-Krishna everyone!
[02:16] <rabusmar> hello, im having a problem with unr on an msi u123 not recognizing my usb
[02:16] <rabusmar> any suggestion?
[02:16] <mobi-sheep> !pinning | zaphira13
[02:16] <IdleOne> !downgrade | zaphira13
[02:17] <hiexpo> ok i finally got it launch the terminal but still an error
[02:17] <Hydrosis> Instead of a downgrade, perhaps you could try an Ubuntu based OS like Chrunchbang#!.  It's great.
[02:18] <microhaxo> edbian, i heard they are identical aside from the special gui.
[02:18] <offset_0x0ff0> hi all
[02:18] <microhaxo> and i dont like the restrictions of UNR
[02:18] <Hydrosis> Is Crunchbang linux an offical arm of Ubuntu?  Somone said that it was...
[02:18] <IdleOne> Hydrosis: no it is not
[02:19] <Hydrosis> Didnt think it was.  Afterall, its doent have ubuntu in the name.
[02:19] <offset_0x0ff0> i've got some problems with memory, swap is never used
[02:19] <hiexpo> the was an error launching the child process
[02:19] <neezer> how do i check my disks? like sda1, sda2, etc...i want to know which is which.
[02:19] <Hydrosis> The most swap Ive EVER used is happening right now: 386MB
[02:20] <hiexpo> may i need it to launch the terminal first than the app
[02:20] <rabusmar> for my problem with usb, i already tried normal ubuntu, 9.10 too, and had the same problem with the usb not being recognized
[02:20] <iceroot> offset_0x0ff0: that is not a problem normally
[02:20] <IdleOne> neezer: type df in a terminal
[02:21] <neezer> thats it!
[02:21] <neezer> i love ther terminal
[02:21] <freeksh0w86> !boot
[02:21] <iceroot> neezer: and df -h for a readable output
[02:21] <IdleOne> neezer: terminal is beautiful
[02:22] <offset_0x0ff0> 30% of memory is used for programms ,50-70% used for cash , swap is never used, and i cant work
[02:22] <neezer> man is beautiful too!
[02:22] <IdleOne> neezer: you mean man pages?
[02:22] <neezer> haha yes.
[02:22] <neezer> sorry
[02:23] <mobi-sheep> neezer: If you like colors, pydf.
[02:23] <IdleOne> neezer: personnaly not crazy about man pages. written by geeks for geeks often times
[02:23] <freeksh0w86> what's the correct boot option for getting past "unable to find medium with live file system" when running live cd?
[02:23] <Hydrosis> I'm starting to love the terminal more and more.  Tells me about errors I didnt know existed and is an incredibly powerfultool.
[02:23] <neezer> IdleOne: True...but they do help sometimes....and I'm kind of a geek
[02:23] <freeksh0w86> i can't get to check disk for defects or anything w/o that happening... how is it not finding the disc drive???
[02:24] <offset_0x0ff0> some one can help me??
[02:24] <IdleOne> neezer: well what I meant is I think the man pages should be less technical sometimes
[02:24] <neezer> I agree.
[02:24] <Hydrosis> http://chvnx.com/post/299214645/woman-knocks-pope-down-at-christmas-mass
[02:24] <Hydrosis> oops, worng channel! sory
[02:29] <neezer> So I have this line in my .conkyrc file:   Home:  ${fs_free_perc /dev/sda1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /dev/sda1}$color
[02:29] <freeksh0w86> "unable to find a medium containing live file system"
[02:30] <freeksh0w86> anyone get that booting the CD?
[02:30] <neezer> it is saying 99% free when it reads, but on my /dev/sda1 in df -h it gives me that it is 29% used.
[02:30] <zaphira13> After a while my FIrefox stucks
[02:30] <freeksh0w86> i can't figure out how to get past it i try "all_generic_ide" option and still no luck
[02:30] <zaphira13> Why?
[02:31] <zaphira13> Especially when i am in you tube, the videos stuck
[02:31] <freeksh0w86> zaphira13, the closed-source "Flash" is still broken and not fixed
[02:31] <zaphira13> freeksh0w86: And what can we do about that?
[02:31] <freeksh0w86> maybe not Flash VM but the mozilla to flash glue code, owned by Adobe, is still not fully functional
[02:32] <freeksh0w86> zaphira13, send Adobe an email asking why they insist on making an essential web platform proprietary and still subject to security issues...
[02:32] <zaphira13> freeksh0w86: how can i install The new Firefox?
[02:32] <Hydrosis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:33] <Hydrosis> in terminal
[02:33] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[02:33] <freeksh0w86> i dunno if that will help but get flashblock or adblock plus so u can block bad flash apps
[02:33] <zaphira13> firefox is already the newest version.
[02:33] <zaphira13> E: Couldn't find package 3.5
[02:33] <Hydrosis> I use AdBlock Plus.  It's great.
[02:34] <hiexpo> ok i got it to pop open the terminal but it wont stay open
[02:34] <Hydrosis> zaphriah13, have you read the FF website
[02:34] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86: yes, I have seen it before - I get it when I mistakenly update the kernel in my flashdrive install
[02:34] <zaphira13> Hydrosis: Umm yeah, what about it?
[02:35] <Ubuntu_User> im here for some help lol
[02:35] <Pelo> !sound
[02:35] <`mOOse`> 3.5.6 FF here
[02:35] <Ubuntu_User> winehq is deserted
[02:36] <Ubuntu_User> anyone here no about wine problems?
[02:36] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, what do you need ?
[02:36] <Pelo> a minor problem I don'T deal with anything major
[02:36] <Ubuntu_User> how to reset wine to a point were its like you never  used it
[02:36] <sinclair86_> del config file
[02:36] <Pelo> in what way ?
[02:36] <`mOOse`> or remove --purge
[02:36] <zaphira13> Its not working, i still have 3.0
[02:37] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, what is it you want to get rid of
[02:37] <co> cew_maniez
[02:37] <Ubuntu_User> im have this problem with problem where I'm trying to launch windows browsers and it shows them opening but then they don't launch at all
[02:37] <Ubuntu_User> and the process disappears
[02:37] <IdleOne> !FF3.5 | zaphira13
[02:37] <jMyles> I'm having a problem with a thinkpad t40 and wireless networking.  I can see my network, but it is grayed out.  I suspect that this is because it is a WPA network, and for whatever reason, WPA isn't working.  I suspect this because when I try to "create new wireless network," wpa is not available as a security option.
[02:37] <trism> Ubuntu_User: remove the ~/.wine directory and the next time you launch a program with wine a default one will be generated (for the reset to defaults part of your question)
[02:38] <jarray521> Has anyone here used aide on Ubuntu?
[02:38] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, if you want to get rid of wine completely , and all the apps you've installed in it ,  just sudo apt-get remove --purge wine ,  and sudo rm ~/.wine
[02:38] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, if you want to get rid of wine completely , and all the apps you've installed in it ,  just sudo apt-get remove --purge wine ,  and sudo rm -rf ~/.wine
[02:38] <Ubuntu_User> Ok...
[02:38] <mobile> jMyles: What make/model is your wireless card, mate?
[02:38] <Ubuntu_User> i'll try
[02:39] <jMyles> mobile: It's a Cisco Aironet
[02:39] <neezer> so my df -h shows this: nathan@lappy:~$ df -h
[02:39] <neezer> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:39] <neezer> /dev/sda5              48G   18G   28G  40% /
[02:39] <neezer> tmpfs                 2.0G     0  2.0G   0% /lib/init/rw
[02:39] <neezer> varrun                2.0G  312K  2.0G   1% /var/run
[02:39] <FloodBot2> neezer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <neezer> varlock               2.0G     0  2.0G   0% /var/lock
[02:40] <scott__> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.  Earlier today, I started up my machine with a new monitor, and before Ubuntu started up all the way it said it was having problems.  It gave me a nice menu where I chose the type of monitor I was using from a drop down, along with giving me options to choose video driver and resolution.  How do I get to this menu again?
[02:40] <Ubuntu_User> I did and no change...whats going on?
[02:40] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Which means that i have the 3.5 version but it is still named 3.0?
[02:40] <mobile> jMyles: The cisco website's FAQ gave this: A. No, the Linux drivers for the Cisco Aironet 350 Series Wireless Card do not support WPA.
[02:40] <IdleOne> zaphira13: no, in Applications > Internet it will be called Shiretoko
[02:41] <IdleOne> Shiretoko is FF3.5
[02:41] <Real_Christmas> Will it be any easy way to install Windows 7 from a DVD using some kind of remote installation? PXE??
[02:41] <freeksh0w86> i also don't see the CD device in /dev when i get to the busybox prompt after "unable to find...live file system" error when booting (other sda show up though)
[02:41] <IdleOne> Real_Christmas: ask in ##windows
[02:41] <jMyles> mobile: so do you think that's the final answer?
[02:41] <arch----> what ubuntu media player can play .odd ?
[02:41] <arch----> .ogg ?
[02:42] <Real_Christmas> IdleOne: Nah, I use Linux to connect remotely. Will it work different depending on operating system I want to intsall?
[02:43] <Real_Christmas> *insatll
[02:43] <mobile> jMyles: As is always the way with Linux, support very well may be added at a later date. With a bit of luck, it might do - but if cisco says it can't do it it probably can't. There may be alternative drivers, but.. I doubt it. I reckon it's a safe assumption that there's no WPA support, and that's final. For the time being, anyway. Sorry, man.
[02:43] <Real_Christmas> *install
[02:43] <IdleOne> Real_Christmas: I don't know. never tried PX install
[02:43] <IdleOne> PXE
[02:43] <Hydrosis> Whoever was chatting with neezer should PM him.  He was kicked for flooding by accident.
[02:43] <marcel> Hi. Can anyone please help me install a working driver for my nvidia graphical card?
[02:44] <zaphira13> IdleOne: it still says Firefox Web Browser
[02:44] <IdleOne> Hydrosis: it's a temp ban
[02:44] <neezer> it was my fault.
[02:44] <rumpsy> What card you are having
[02:44] <neezer> I'm better now.
[02:44] <Hydrosis> ah, ok.  Anyway, no luck on my end neexer.
[02:44] <marcel> geforce 105m
[02:44] <neezer> thanks anyways.
[02:44] <Real_Christmas> What would you suggest me to learn of this: 1. Linux 2. tcp/ip 3. Python 4. PHP 5. C if I want to develop things like software and web services?
[02:44] <neezer> I'll keep plugging away.
[02:44] <IdleOne> zaphira13: do apt-cache policy firefox-3.5 and tell me if it says installed
[02:44] <ll_r>  i want nm-applet to start before firefox at session boot. how can i do it?
[02:44] <Hydrosis> If you try, you shall succeed.  Somone important probably said that once.  Im sure it applies here.
[02:45] <neezer> goose?
[02:45] <goose> neezer?
[02:45] <neezer> haha thanks
[02:45] <neezer> yeah...my brother goes by goose.
[02:45] <geeXmas> marcel
[02:45] <neezer> but surely you can't be him...he doesn't use ubuntu
[02:45] <neezer> I haven't been able to persuade him.
[02:45] <zaphira13> IdleOne: No
[02:46] <IdleOne> zaphira13: ok. do sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[02:46] <freeksh0w86> if other distros can see my CD drive at boot, why can't Ubuntu 9.10? what am i doing wrong?
[02:47] <IdleOne> freeksh0w86: bad download maybe, check the md5sum and burn the iso at slowest speed
[02:47] <freeksh0w86> IdleOne, i already did all that
[02:47] <IdleOne> freeksh0w86: :-/
[02:47] <freeksh0w86> i tried nolapic option as well, same problem
[02:47] <nflava> hi, can anyone help me, how can i share my harddrives on my local network
[02:47]  * Pelo wishes a merry random day to all the non-christians in the room
[02:48] <nflava> im pretty new to ubuntu
[02:48] <goose> well, neezer, since my (only) brother is on the couch across from me asleep, I'm fairly sure I'm not the goose you're looking for :p
[02:48] <IdleOne> Thank you Pelo
[02:48] <IdleOne> Same to you
[02:48] <Pelo> nflava, pick I don'T know about the whole drive but a folder is easy
[02:48] <neezer> haha true goose.
[02:48] <yoshio_221> hey guys i need another way of installing ubuntu because nothing so far worked?
[02:48] <neezer> my bro in on an oil rig right now, so it could have been him.
[02:48] <nflava> ill try whatever method you have Pelo
[02:48] <nflava> i dont know any way atm
[02:49] <Pelo> nflava, are you running a gui ? gnome or somethign ? gnome preferably
[02:49] <nflava> i have gnome
[02:49] <nflava> i guess just the newest ubuntu
[02:50] <Pelo> nflava, pick a folder , any folder , preferably the highest one you are willing to share like don'T pick /home/username but anything below that will do ,  right click,  go to the share tab and follow the instructions
[02:50] <zaphira13> IdleOne: I did but it still says Firefox Web Browser and the version is 3.0
[02:50] <nflava> hmm i should have know it was that easy lol
[02:50] <nflava> lemme check it out, thank you
[02:50] <Pelo> nflava, welcome to "this is not windows"
[02:50] <neezer> pelo, can you share from command line? or does it need to be in nautilus?
[02:51] <IdleOne> zaphira13: I don't know what to tell you. it should say Shiretoko. You will see both Firefox and Shiretoko
[02:51] <Pelo> neezer, you probably can,  but I don't know how,  in fact I'm gonna bet you just need to add a folder to a config file somewhere
[02:51] <Supersaiyan_IV> nflava, you drives are mounted in /media/ so share that folder, it will be needed to run "sudo nautilus" and do the normal procedure from there
[02:52] <ll_r> i want nm-applet (network) to start before firefox at gnome saved-session boot. how can i do it?
[02:52] <ll_r> damn desktop
[02:52] <Supersaiyan_IV> nflava, the drives are essentially folders in /media/
[02:52] <Pelo> Supersaiyan_IV, only removable media
[02:53] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Oh
[02:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> Pelo, or securely mounted media like 9.10 does it
[02:53] <Pelo> nflava, there are no C or D drives in linux,  the system is a bit different,  it's more about partitions on drives and they can be mounted where ever you want in the folder hierachy
[02:53] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Thou are right...i didn't see it, and what is the difference now?
[02:53] <scott__>  I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.  Earlier today, I started up my machine with a new monitor, and before Ubuntu started up all the way it said it was having problems.  It gave me a nice menu where I chose the type of monitor I was using from a drop down, along with giving me options to choose video driver and resolution.  How do I get to this menu again?
[02:54] <IdleOne> zaphira13: Shiretoko is firefox 3.5
[02:54] <aqwq> fire fox wont start
[02:54] <aqwq> firefox
[02:54] <IdleOne> zaphira13: so it is newer then 3.0
[02:54] <aqwq> and about ubuntu
[02:54] <aqwq> and hmmmmmm ubuntu software center
[02:54] <Pelo> aqwq, make complete sentences please
[02:55] <aqwq> about ubuntu , ubuntu software center , firefox wont start :S
[02:55] <zaphira13> IdleOne: This means that it is better?
[02:55] <IdleOne> zaphira13: means that it is newer and *should* be better
[02:56] <IdleOne> zaphira13: try it out and see if it works better for you
[02:56] <jacob110> Isn't Shiretoko still a beta?
[02:56] <IdleOne> jacob110: no
[02:56] <aqwq> hello
[02:56] <Pelo> aqwq, ubuntu software center doesnT have anything to do with firefox , as far as i know , unless it's to start the oficial webpage of an app in there
[02:56] <`mOOse`> I'm runnin 3.5.6
[02:56] <jacob110> IdleOne: sorry been away from internet browsers a little while
[02:56] <Pelo> brb
[02:56] <IdleOne> jacob110: no problem :)
[02:56] <aqwq> i cant start fire fox
[02:57] <IdleOne> aqwq: try starting it from terminal and see if you get any error messages
[02:57] <neezer> aqwq try just doing firefox from a terminal
[02:57] <aqwq> i cant start firefox its says loading and just that
[02:57] <aqwq> yea
[02:57] <neezer> hmm
[02:57] <aqwq> its give me erros
[02:57] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Ok Thanks a million! :)
[02:57] <aqwq> BUS error
[02:57] <IdleOne> zaphira13: welcome
[02:57] <aqwq> Bus error
[02:58] <IdleOne> maybe move it to a different corner and see if the right Bus comes along
[02:58] <msmarc> anyone know if its possible to make a power pc mac hibernate?
[02:58] <aqwq> how i move it plz tell me caz im new
[02:58] <IdleOne> aqwq: hehe sorry i was trying to be funny.
[02:59] <aqwq> five days now i came here and no answer:S
[02:59] <IdleOne> aqwq: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:59] <IdleOne> that should fix it
[02:59] <arghh2d2> does anybody get their linux to hibernate and unhibernate correctly?  i think it sucks
[03:00] <arghh2d2> never works
[03:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> aqwq, if firefox doesn't work you can always try epiphany, sudo apt-get install epiphany
[03:00] <msmarc> i thought just power pc's couldnt hibernate
[03:00] <aqwq> the same error
[03:00] <IdleOne> arghh2d2: works fine here
[03:00] <Maximillion> How do I install a specific python package, (for example python-dns) on ubuntu?
[03:00] <Pelo> arghh2d2, there were issues in the past but I think they were suppose to have been resolved,  there are probably a bunch of threads about this in the ubuntuforum.org
[03:00] <aqwq> Bus error
[03:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> arghh2d2, depends on the graphics driver, currently running latest nvidia beta and it works flawlessly
[03:00] <DaZ> !find python dns
[03:01] <DaZ> ...
[03:01] <iceroot> Maximillion: if it is not on the repo (apt-cache search) try python egg
[03:01] <IdleOne> Maximillion: install  python-dnspython or python-dns
[03:01] <msmarc> theres lots of python packages in the repo just search with aptitude
[03:02] <aqwq> yestrday they said install erora :S
[03:02] <aqwq> and now epiphany
[03:02] <aqwq> i want to fix firefox:(
[03:03] <Supersaiyan_IV> aqwq, epiphany is a firefox 2 clone
[03:03] <aqwq> ok
[03:03] <Devrethman> Is there a way to tell what -lxxx options are available?
[03:03] <Devrethman> for gcc?
[03:04] <aqwq> 84% [1 epiphany-data 2133573/2,430kB 87%]
[03:05] <msmarc> will wake-on-lan work when you computers off?
[03:06] <IdleOne> umm no
[03:06] <IdleOne> no power to the computer means no connection
[03:06] <freetos> does anybody know how to make 9.10 do 3d desktops?
[03:06] <archnub> hi all can anyone help me out with getting a hauppauge 1250 card working?
[03:07] <IdleOne> freetos: System > Prefferences > Appearance, go to the Visual effects tab and enable it
[03:07] <archnub> 0070:7911 is the id
[03:07] <freetos> IdleOne, thank u very much
[03:07] <nflava> had to restart my session
[03:07] <archnub> tveeprom 0-0050: Encountered bad packet header [ff]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom.
[03:07] <jjmartin> in power management I have sleep disabled when on AC but ubu 9.10 still goes to sleep. why? and how do i fix this
[03:07] <archnub> is the error
[03:08] <nflava> now time to go to the windows pc with xbmc, hopefully it can see my fodlers
[03:09] <aqwq> dose any body know how i can find in terminal ubuntu version ?
[03:09] <IdleOne> aqwq: lsb_release -a
[03:09] <Supersaiyan_IV> aqwq, uname -r
[03:09] <aqwq> Ubuntu 9.10
[03:09] <bennukem> hello everybody
[03:09] <aqwq> i dont like this:S
[03:09] <aqwq> Ubuntu 9.10
[03:09] <geeXmas> ih
[03:09] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: that gives kernel version
[03:09] <aqwq> i like more 8.4 hardy heron
[03:10] <Supersaiyan_IV> IdleOne, indeed
[03:10] <bennukem> I would like make a backup of all keys gpg (I have ubuntu 9.10)
[03:10] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: but still good to know :)
[03:10] <bennukem> but in the manager , I can't save all keys in one time
[03:10] <Wolfcastle> hello
[03:10] <Supersaiyan_IV> IdleOne, uname -a still doesn't give the ubuntu version, i wonder what cmd will give the distro version
[03:11] <IdleOne> !hi | Wolfcastle
[03:11] <aqwq> wht do u prefer ubuntu 8.4 hardy or 9.10
[03:11] <iceroot> Supersaiyan_IV: lsb_release -a
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> I'm having some problems with a couple of panel programs
[03:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> iceroot, thx
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> the battery monitor for example sometimes shows there's no battery present on startup
[03:11] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: uname returns kernal info only AFIK lsb_release gives distro name and version number
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> but info in /proc says it's present
[03:11] <iceroot> aqwq: 8.04 is a LTS version and very stable
[03:12] <aqwq> yes
[03:12] <kjcole> Hi.  Something wrong w/ my touchpad (Asus) under Karmic, GNOME only.  Works fine under KDE.  Under GNOME left click acts as "Move window".  Was fine under previous releases...  Anyone know what's wrong?
[03:12] <aqwq> i love that :(
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> and it is fixed by removing/adding the monitor
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> i use kubuntu karmic
[03:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> IdleOne, always good to know :)
[03:12] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: indeed
[03:12] <Dante123> Howdy all,  staying at hotel that has wired internet in rooms.....i have a dell mini 9 with 9.10 and a dell mini 10v with 9.04.....I want to share wired internet to the 9.04 using wireless card?  Can this be done and easily?
[03:12] <aqwq> i lost the cd of 8.4 and installed 9.10 and evry time x is down :S hmm after upgrading kernal firefox wont work and so meny things very bad
[03:13] <sinclair86> dante123: kinda
[03:13] <`mOOse`> Supersaiyan_IV:  lsb_release -a like IdleOne said
[03:13] <phix> a room with a m00se!
[03:13] <`mOOse`> !!!
[03:13] <Dante123> kjcole netbook?
[03:13] <kjcole> Dantel123: Nope.
[03:13] <neezer> when i try lsb-release -a i get that lsb-release command not found
[03:14] <Dante123> sinclair86 create adhoc network?
[03:14] <Supersaiyan_IV> iceroot, thx by the way :)
[03:14] <IdleOne> neezer: _ not -
[03:14] <Boing_> hello, what is the difference between ini 3 and ini 4
[03:14] <neezer> ah.
[03:14] <`mOOse`> neezer: it's lsb_
[03:14] <iceroot> Supersaiyan_IV: np
[03:14] <`mOOse`> not lsb-
[03:14] <aqwq> _
[03:14] <Dante123> kjcole laptop....
[03:15] <neezer> cool.
[03:15] <iceroot> Boing_: in ubuntu there is no difference
[03:15] <neezer> what does lsb stand for?
[03:15] <ozzloy> menica67, hii
[03:15] <kjcole> Dantel123: Yep. Specifically Asus F3JM
[03:15] <`mOOse`> you want to use your wired machine as a wifi access point essentially Dante123
[03:15] <iceroot> Boing_: ubuntu dont using different runlevels like suse or other distros
[03:15] <iceroot> neezer: linux standard base i think
[03:15] <menica67> ozzloy, hiiiii
[03:15] <neezer> cool.
[03:15] <Boing_> ok ty
[03:15] <fas3r> sorry somebody use ulogd2?
[03:15] <jjmartin> lsb_release is only for debia distros
[03:15] <iceroot> neezer: yes, man lsb_release is telling  linux standard base
[03:15] <Dante123> `mOOse` yes i guess....i want internet on both
[03:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> neezer, "lsb_release command provides certain LSB (Linux Standard Base) and distribution-specific information."
[03:16] <iceroot> !anyone | fas3r
[03:16] <kjcole> Dantel123: Part of the "Asus Revolutionary Notebook Series" according to the etchings on the front edge.
[03:16] <sinclair86> dante123 http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html
[03:16] <fas3r> i don't have mac adress in ulog2 table and i just want know if it's general problem because don't help me on this point :s
[03:16] <fas3r> because i don't find answer on goole about that*
[03:16] <Dante123> kjcole have you looked at mouse settings under gnome to make sure they are right?
[03:17] <fas3r> ubottu: i know but nobody use ulogd2 so it's why i asking first ^^
[03:17] <IdleOne> kjcole: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[03:18] <fas3r> iceroot : i know but nobody use ulogd2 so it's why i asking first ^^
[03:18] <`mOOse`> Dante123:  I know osx can do it - gimme a sec to see if I can find something for you
[03:18] <kjcole> Dantel123: As near as I can tell, they were fine. I'm in KDE right now, so it's a bit hard to check immediately -- and because GNOME has become so unusable without being able to click on anything.
[03:18] <Dante123> sinclair86 i followed that guid and i could connect with adhoc but no internet sharing
[03:18] <iceroot> fas3r: if nobody is using it, its useless to ask if someone is using it
[03:18] <fas3r> iceroot: well no it's just in beta mod .. the first release come soon so .. we never know ^^
[03:18] <menica67> anyone know how to make a sony vaio motion eye camera work in ubuntu?
[03:19] <kjcole> Dantel123: (I did manage to get to the System Settings and saw nothing odd about the mouse settings there.)
[03:19] <fas3r> ulogd2 will be replace ulogd
[03:19] <Dante123> kjcole it is toughpad that is screwed right?  have u tried a usb or other mouse
[03:19] <`mOOse`> Dante123: hostapd is the pgm you will probably want
[03:20] <kjcole> IdleOne: Checking now. I did some digging on help.ubuntu.com a few days ago, but I wasn't zeroing in on the difference between GNOME and KDE. Most advice wanted me to screw w/ xorg.conf, which isn't the source of trouble.
[03:21] <Dante123> `mOOse` can i add that from ubuntu software centre and does only wired host need it?
[03:21] <`mOOse`> reading - hang on
[03:21] <IdleOne> kjcole: that helped me get my touchpad working when I had one
[03:21] <ZanQdo> hi, ive been trying to install netbook remix 9.10 and my netbook will not boot on the USB no matter what
[03:21] <IdleOne> ZanQdo: changed bios to boot from USB first?
[03:22] <ZanQdo> yes
[03:22] <kjcole> Dantel123: Nope. I don't have one handy.
[03:22] <Renfley> anyone familer with conky?
[03:22] <ZanQdo> I have tried with many aps for creating a bootable usb drive
[03:22] <Dante123> ZanQdo what brand of usb flash drive u using
[03:22] <mobile> Renfley: Briefly. What's up?
[03:22] <ZanQdo> last was unetbootin
[03:22] <geeXmas> !conky
[03:22] <kjcole> IdleOne: Thanks.  It looks like that offers a few ideas worth pursuing.
[03:22] <Dante123> i have had issues with sandisc cruzer and booting from usb
[03:22] <ZanQdo> its a kingston
[03:23] <ZanQdo> I have used it to install the past version of remix
[03:23] <Renfley> yea conky lol
[03:23] <zetheroo> MERRY CHRISTMAS Ubuntu Community!!!
[03:23] <zetheroo> :)
[03:23] <`mOOse`> what's the error ZanQdo
[03:23] <edbian> ZanQdo: Do you have windows on this netbook?  Try using unetbootin to boot directly from the ISO and the windows filesystem (yeah you can do that, yeah it is weird as hell)
[03:23] <ZanQdo> edbian: I have windows but its completly unusable
[03:23] <Dante123> ive had error with just one pc and then same usb flash drive works on another pc fine
[03:23] <ZanQdo> and ubuntu is fucked up too, it wont let me install new packages
[03:23] <ZanQdo> :s
[03:24] <`mOOse`> ZanQdo: file:///home/ubuntu/.mozilla/firefox/febeprof.UbuntumOOse/ScrapBook/data/20091203055702/index.html
[03:24] <`mOOse`> use their installers - they ROCK
[03:24] <edbian> ZanQdo: ouch, then good luck with your USB drive!
[03:24] <`mOOse`> whoa
[03:24] <ZanQdo> Im trying creating the bootable drive from open suse and from another windows machine
[03:24] <`mOOse`> sorry - wrong url
[03:24] <fas3r> please santa help me ... :)
[03:24] <ctmjr> !oymy | ZanQdo
[03:24] <ctmjr> !ohmy | ZanQdo
[03:24] <`mOOse`> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[03:25] <`mOOse`> ZanQdo:  ^^
[03:25] <Dante123> `mOOse` any more clues
[03:25] <ZanQdo> m0los: I tried that too..
[03:25] <blackest_knight> ZanQdo:  unetbootin :)
[03:25] <ZanQdo> blackest_knight: that too..
[03:25] <edbian> blackest_knight: He's already using it
[03:26] <ZanQdo> I dont know whats wrong, I installed 9.04 succesfully
[03:26] <`mOOse`> well Dante123, I got http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/hostapd
[03:26] <IdleOne> kjcole: welcome
[03:26] <ZanQdo> now 9.10 wont work
[03:26] <Dante123> ZanQdo do you have a second usb to try...maybe it is a prob specific to that usb or even pc bios
[03:26] <`mOOse`> if you google hostapd ubuntu you'll come up with 13040952 hits ;-)
[03:26] <ZanQdo> I dont, but I have installed using this usb drive
[03:26] <ZanQdo> both the previous remix and also suse 11.2
[03:26] <ZanQdo> the usb drive works fine
[03:26] <blackest_knight> whats the issue its straight forward as long as you know where you write it and how to boot it
[03:27] <edbian> ZanQdo: When you try to boot from the usb drive what happens??
[03:27] <`mOOse`> yea, win32 format, letter rip
[03:27] <ZanQdo> edbian: it goes directly to my grub
[03:27] <ZanQdo> and loads ubuntu 9.04
[03:27] <ZanQdo> I will try booting in another pc
[03:27] <`mOOse`> you got your bios set to load usb first?
[03:28] <edbian> ZanQdo: So I assume you tell the bios to boot the drive, it tries, fails, and skips to the next device??
[03:28] <`mOOse`> (stupid q but...)
[03:28] <Dante123> `mOOse` i found one walkthrough that makes it sound very simple...but i have not tried that yet.....right now im using internet in hotel lobby
[03:28] <ZanQdo> edbian: apparently, yes
[03:28] <blackest_knight> ZanQdo: ok so how do you select the boot drive ?
[03:28] <ZanQdo> blackest_knight: I try both in the bios, putting the usb drive as first boot option
[03:28] <ZanQdo> and also with F12
[03:28] <`mOOse`> it's not all that hard Dante123 - I haven't done it but I've seen several ways it's done in windows....sorry can't be of more help - but I *do* know it's possible ;-)
[03:29] <edbian> ZanQdo: I think you should try and get the bios to fail on the usb drive and give up so you can get some errors.
[03:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> Daniel_G, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html/comment-page-1#comment-1966 an alternative
[03:29] <ZanQdo> the bios has a way to select which drive to boot from
[03:29] <piklu> hello
[03:29] <digitalaxis> Hey guys, is there like a limewire application for ubuntu? for downloading music and such
[03:29] <kraitos> login splash question ?
[03:29] <geeXmas> mc
[03:29] <`mOOse`> digitalaxis: nicotine plus
[03:29] <edbian> ZanQdo: Also, are you sure grub is installed on the drive?
[03:29] <`mOOse`> there is also a bearshare p2p app
[03:30] <edbian> digitalaxis: Most of use bit torrent I suspect because it is less often considered illegal
[03:31] <Supersaiyan_IV> Dante123, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing 9.10 method
[03:31] <kraitos> i'm trying to set up a new splash screen can anyone help?
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: yes sure
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: oh, what drive
[03:31] <Dante123> `mOOse` one method i already followed had you create adhoc then create address, netmask, gateway..but that did nit work  for sharing but i could connect....im gonna try the other way....simpler but requires dnsmasq-base see http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/
[03:31] <edbian> ZanQdo: The usb drive! :)
[03:31] <`mOOse`> ICS is for wired though
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: ok I tried on another machine and same problem
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: then it has to be something in this image/drive
[03:31] <ZanQdo> :s
[03:32] <edbian> ZanQdo: Then somethings wrong with the usb drive!
[03:32] <edbian> ZanQdo: yeah
[03:32] <Dante123> Supersaiyan_IV reading that thanks
[03:32] <edbian> ZanQdo: Why don't you look up how to install grub on a usb drive?  That's my advice!  Unfortunately it just about ends there though :/
[03:33] <edbian> ZanQdo: I'll be here if you have less specific questions though!
[03:33] <edbian> kraitos: I can help you :)
[03:33] <edbian> kraitos: Do you have the login theme .tar.gz somewhere on your system?
[03:33] <`mOOse`> I don't know about other distros but the pendrive apps for ubuntu work really well
[03:34] <kraitos> edbian; in were do you mean
[03:34] <edbian> kraitos: Did you download a theme?
[03:34] <Supersaiyan_IV> Dante123, actually the 9.10 method is only for sharing with two ethernet ports, so it's not accurate information
[03:34] <blackest_knight> ZanQdo:  can you read the drive is the partition set bootable (what does gparted tell you) (manage flags ->boot)
[03:35] <kraitos> edbian; yes, i did. i download it with art manager
[03:35] <edbian> kraitos: Where is it?
[03:35] <edbian> kraitos: I'm unfamiliar with that app?
[03:35] <Dante123> Supersaiyan_IV do you think the guy in this article is oversimplyfying it..... http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/  because article u posted means doing a lot more....especially since i am sharing via wireless
[03:35] <freetos> does anyone know on how to install the latest wineasio file to run besides the source.tar.bz1 and compiling by it bye hand
[03:36] <aqwq> hey
[03:36] <edbian> freetos: There is no other way.
[03:36] <aqwq> i want open my email:(
[03:36] <kraitos> edbian; it looks for diferent eye candys to download and install. but it won't let me install of it. because the file is a .tar.gz
[03:36] <aqwq> i cantttttttttttttt
[03:36] <kraitos> edbian; in other words i have to manually install it and i don't know how too. could you please help with this?
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  what kind of theme/part is it? theres the gnome-art and gnome-artng programs that can sutomate installing new themes.
[03:37] <Dante123> going to try it although it looks "too easy" Supersaiyan_IV and `mOOse` thanks for help
[03:37] <edbian> kraitos: Yeah, that is easy
[03:37] <ZanQdo> edbian: thanks, Ill try and track this problem a bit more, I can try installing an open suse on the same drive, if it works then its a problem with ubuntu
[03:37] <kraitos> edbian; so what is the first step
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> kraitos: the term 'theme' is a little overused at times and can mean different 'things' depending on the theme part you are refering to.
[03:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> Dante123, he assumes you don't have a wifi dhcp server, which is the case, it could work
[03:37] <edbian> ZanQdo: When you install to the pen drive watch carefully for errors!
[03:37] <`mOOse`> Dante123:  - it really isn't hard from what I've read - I know in windoze there's a few pgms that set it up effortlessly
[03:38] <kraitos> edbian; right
[03:38] <`mOOse`> yer welcome - good luck!
[03:38] <blackest_knight> Dante123:  sharing is  easy as long as you remember to turn on ip forward in sysctrl
[03:38] <edbian> kraitos: Sorry, yeah, open the system -
[03:38] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: Hi, I just got here. What are you trying to accomplish? o.o
[03:38] <edbian> kraitos: Sorry, open the system -> admin -> login window
[03:38] <Supersaiyan_IV> mobi-sheep, he wants to share his ethernet internet through wifi
[03:38] <edbian> kraitos: Then open the folder that has the .tar.gz file in it
[03:38] <kraitos> edbian; i'm there
[03:39] <kraitos> edbian; do i have to unlock it first or something else?
[03:39] <edbian> kraitos: go to the local tab
[03:39] <blackest_knight> Dante123:  i'm using ppp0 for net connected wirelessly to a router and using the ppp0 for the net for the lan , ssh in to other lan pc's
[03:39] <edbian> kraitos: i don't know, I don't think you have to unlock it
[03:40] <mobi-sheep> Supersaiyan_IV, Dante123: Install bridge-utils and set up a new "Bridging" profile in NetworkManager --> Method: Shared.
[03:40] <Dante123> mobi-sheep  and blackest_knight, i want to share wired hotel internet from one dell mini 9 running with dell mini 10v wireless ....one method i already followed had you create adhoc then create address, netmask, gateway..but that did nit work  for sharing but i could connect....im gonna try the other way....simpler but requires dnsmasq-base see http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/
[03:40] <edbian> kraitos: now that you have both open you can either hit that little add button or you can drag the .tar.gz into the window with the other themes
[03:40] <buttons840> what can i try to end a process if kill doesn't work?   i pull up top, and pid 3769 is using 100 cpu, so i sudo kill 3769 and it doesn't do anything. what else can i try?
[03:40] <`mOOse`> yea, the problem is having two simultaneous connects on one wifi adapter
[03:40] <Dante123> i have no router at my disposal
[03:41] <kraitos> edbian; hey i went to system > admin > login screen and all the option are greyed out and the only available is unlock.
[03:41] <`mOOse`> buttons840: kill -9
[03:41] <edbian> buttons840: sudo kill -9
[03:41] <edbian> kraitos:
[03:41] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: You sure have lot of Dell Mini. Any particular reason why? :)
[03:41] <blackest_knight> the router just makes it easier :)
[03:41] <edbian> kraitos: Oh yeah, sorry unlock it first
[03:41] <edbian> kraitos: :D
[03:41] <kraitos> edbian; alright now what
[03:42] <edbian> kraitos: Either use the add
[03:42] <edbian> kraitos: The add button*
[03:42] <syrius> I have a question
[03:42] <edbian> syrius: Well what is it already!?!?!
[03:42] <kraitos> edbian; there is no add button
[03:42] <buttons840> edbian, what is this kill -9?
[03:42] <buttons840> (it
[03:42] <edbian> kraitos: What buttons are there?  Sorry I'm using an older version of ubuntu
[03:42] <buttons840> (i still can't kill it, but i don't think i used your suggestion correctly)
[03:42] <syrius> why does it seem like I don't really have a 100 m/s connection when it says so in connection info in ubuntu?
[03:43] <Dante123> dell9 running 9.10 has wired internet......i will create adhoc with wireless adapter...then use mini10v 9.04 to connect via wifi with the dell 9 and hopefully share internet as desribed here.....im in hotel for next two days...one mini is my wife's the other from school....i borrowed it...im a teacger by trade
[03:43] <edbian> buttons840: just like you used kill before but add a -9 "sudo kill -9 <pid>"
[03:43] <syrius> can the bandwith I get to my machine also be  effected by the hardware I am using?
[03:43] <blackest_knight> Dante123:  ican send you a script
[03:43] <edbian> buttons840: It's more powerful, doesn't take no for an answer :)
[03:43] <edbian> syrius: Only the network card
[03:43] <buttons840> what is the -9, is there a -8?
[03:43] <syrius> so not the cpu or anything
[03:44] <`mOOse`> 9 is the highest elevated level the command will run at
[03:44] <Dante123> instructions im trying...(but seems too easy to work).... http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/
[03:44] <syrius> well also the router and modem I would think also edbian
[03:44] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: The hotel does not have Wifi?
[03:44] <kraitos> edbian; the main title on this says "when the computer starts-up"
[03:44] <syrius> why is it that an uncapped router can make your connection faster?
[03:44] <`mOOse`> buttons840: man kill for details
[03:44] <Dante123> blackest_knight sure
[03:44] <syrius> uncapped modem
[03:44] <edbian> syrius: Yeah, the router and modem def.  But on the computer I'm pretty sure the network card is the only thing that matters
[03:45] <edbian> kraitos: Are you on the local tab?
[03:45] <`mOOse`> Dante123:  - what's there to lose - come back in here and tell us when/if you get it running
[03:45] <kraitos> edbian; there is no local tab, i'm not sure what you are talking about.
[03:45] <`mOOse`> looks simple enough
[03:45] <edbian> syrius: Because proprietary vendors cap their routers / modems so they run cooler and under less stress (so they last longer)
[03:45] <jeez1234> hi, i'm planning to reinstall my OS [ubuntu]. how do i back up my history and stuff so that i can restore it in the fresh install?
[03:45] <mobi-sheep> !backup | jeez1234
[03:45] <edbian> kraitos: I'm sorry, I'm using an older version of ubuntu so mine looks different
[03:46] <jeez1234> mobi-sheep: thanks, will check it out!
[03:46] <kraitos> edbian; right, what version are you using, i'm using 9.10
[03:46] <edbian> kraitos: Some how there is a way to add new themes.  Do you have a tab that shows the themes you can switch to in there?
[03:46] <edbian> kraitos: I'm using 8.04 cause it's LTS
[03:46]  * buttons840 reads "kill -9 -1" and is tempted to try it
[03:46] <`mOOse`> they cap the routers to keep net congestion down on local nodes
[03:46] <syrius> why is it against the law to uncapped your router? edbian
[03:46] <kraitos> edbian; i don't know i was hoping you did.
[03:46] <edbian> buttons840: Try it only if the process refuses to die under other circumstances
[03:46] <edbian> syrius: I don't think it is... Not here in America anyway
[03:47] <Dante123> mobi-sheep wifi in lobby, wired in rooms....new owner will likely upgrade but not yet
[03:47] <kraitos> edbian; well thanks anyways ill just ask someone else
[03:47] <zetheroo> anyone know how to split a DVD iso onto CD's?
[03:47] <edbian> kraitos: I'm sorry :( good luck!
[03:47] <mobi-sheep> syrius: http://tinyurl.com/y94m2v5 (I'm going to read that too. :))
[03:47] <kraitos>  edbian; don't worry about it.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. never seen a way to uncap a 'router' just the 'cable modem'
[03:47] <kraitos> can anyone help me change the splash screen?
[03:48] <edbian> Dr_Willis: I assume he meant install different software on it
[03:48] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: I'm going to try this adhoc thing.
[03:48] <Dante123> `mOOse` will do
[03:48] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Will you help kraitos
[03:48] <kraitos> edbian; thanks
[03:48] <`mOOse`> :-)
[03:48] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: can you help me with changing the login splash?
[03:49] <kraitos> Merry christmas everyone
[03:49] <mordof> what xorg version does karmic use?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  the usplasy (ubuntu logo) or the xsplash the animation right befor gdm starts and after it.. right befor the user desktop shows up.
[03:50] <Dante123> mobi-sheep okay i will be back in a few
[03:50] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: okay can you slowly explain this to be i just started using ubuntu 3 months ago, still a newby.
[03:50] <edbian> Dr_Willis: The gdm login theme
[03:50] <Dante123> gotta have my christmas beer
[03:50] <`mOOse`> mOO
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  i wouldenent be worrying about  the splash screens then.
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  thats not related to the splash's :)  thats gdm
[03:51] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to change it to my preference]
[03:51] <edbian> Dr_Willis: I know, he kept calling it the login screen when asking me for help
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  GRUB menu -> ubuntu 'logo' (little white ubuntu logo on black screen) -> xsplash animation ---> GDM (you login) --> xsplash anim again.. --> actual desktop
[03:52] <Ubuntu_User> Hi I need help...and Winehq is dead
[03:52] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: alright
[03:52] <Ubuntu_User> Anyone know about wine problems?
[03:52] <edbian> kraitos: He's good huh?
[03:53] <kraitos> edbian; just a little
[03:53] <QAH> If I modify ubuntu to my liking, how can I install the system as is on different computers? Like a clone but for different hardware.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> !backup | QAH
[03:53] <edbian> QAH: There are packages for that.  Gimmie a minute I'll find it
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> QAH:  or check out the fsarchiver tool (not in the repos , but avail on several live cd's)
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Or mondo/mindi, or... proberly a dozen+ other ways to do it.
[03:54] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to change the splash screen were you login at first so there is a different picture when i login.
[03:54] <Ubuntu_User> Sorry if my question was hard
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  the splas screen is befor you login.  not 'where' you login.
[03:54] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: and i would also like to change my xsplash also
[03:54] <edbian> QAH: It's called live-magic
[03:54] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: got it. so how do i change that.
[03:54] <QAH> So if I backup the system can it run on other computers? Will I have driver problems
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  xplash files are in /usr/share/xsplash i think.
[03:55] <QAH> ebian: Thanks
[03:55] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: so do i just go there and swich files or something like that?
[03:55] <edbian> QAH: The drivers in linux are called modules.  When the system boots all of the hardware is probed live and the appropriate modules are selected by the system automatically.  There are hundreds of modules in the linux kernel
[03:55] <microhaxo> I must say, Ubuntu 9.10 is pretty damn good. No problems what so ever with my netbook, everything Ootb. A+
[03:56] <pinPoint> can anyone help me with postfix?
[03:56] <pinPoint> this -> openssl genrsa 1024 > smtpd.key
[03:56] <edbian> QAH: You can add hardware to your system and linux usually picks it up and makes it work perfectly without the user doing anything
[03:56] <Ubuntu_User> Hey I'm running KlamAV and its calling Wine and Playon linux a virus Im confused
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  yep. You can change the backgrounds and xpslash animations - theres new ones at the gnome-look.org site.
[03:56] <pinPoint> ends with permission denied whether I use sudo or not
[03:56] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[03:56] <edbian> QAH: You can switch all the hardware (move the hdd to a different computer) and the system should still work fine
[03:56] <QAH> edbian: Ok so I can move it to another pc and it will get the correct drivers
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  and if you really wanted you could put some wallpaper image on the grub menu background. thasts about all i customuze
[03:57] <QAH> Great
[03:57] <QAH> Thanks for your help
[03:57] <iceroot> QAH: correct, linux is very felxible by changing the hardware
[03:57] <edbian> QAH: It shouldn't be a problem.  All of the drivers are already in linux! :)  It's the best system ever
[03:57] <QAH> I am trying to make a personal distro.
[03:57] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: what file do i change for the background and xsplash animation?
[03:58] <edbian> QAH: AWESOME good luck!  People are very picky about their distro
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  look in the splash directory - its rather obvious.
[03:58] <iceroot> QAH: because of that you can install linux on a usb-stick and use it at every computer (same architecutre)
[03:58] <frankely> hey guys what means, ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis>   kraitos /usr/share/images/xsplash/bg_2560x1600.jpg
[03:58] <freeksh0w86> in case anyone is wondering, i got past the "Unable to find medium ... a live file system" by setting the CD drive to master not slave... the machine drew blood and is sated for now...
[03:58] <teleri> !readahead | frankely
[03:58] <`mOOse`> iceroot: I'm running on a usb persistent install right now
[03:58] <Dr_Willis>   kraitos /usr/share/images/xsplash/logo*  (is the logo) how logical. :) eh
[03:59] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[03:59] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i was just getting ready to ask the location, thanks
[03:59] <edbian> frankely: readahead is a program that makes programs launch faster by watching which ones you use the most and putting them in a cache i the ram.
[03:59] <`mOOse`> you wouldn't know it unless I told you - I got more crap on this thing than a christmas turkey
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  learn to use the locate command.
[03:59] <edbian> frankely: IT is saying that it will begin to profile what programs you use on the next reboot
[03:59] <iceroot> `mOOse`: can you change the nick without `?
[03:59] <`mOOse`> no
[03:59] <`mOOse`> sorry
[03:59] <frankely> ok
[03:59] <`mOOse`> there's another moose
[03:59] <brian_> i heard screenlets was going to be replaced with a new widget engine does any9one know what one that is???
[03:59] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i'm using konsole, i like it a little bit more
[03:59] <iceroot> `mOOse`: no, and i dont want to hold shift and ´ to write you, sorry
[04:00] <`mOOse`> iceroot: not a us keyboard?
[04:00] <`mOOse`> sorry bud :(
[04:00] <iceroot> germany
[04:00] <QAH> And last question. What packages do I need to install to get lxde
[04:00] <`mOOse`> you can just call me mOO
[04:00] <`mOOse`> I will see it :)
[04:01] <mOOey> there how's that?
[04:01] <mOOey> lol
[04:01] <iceroot> `mOOse`: i think you dont get the advantage of tab:)
[04:01] <frankely> i have a problem installing oracle 10g on my computer
[04:01] <mOOey> Oh, yes I do trust me
[04:01] <iceroot> mOOey: great, thx
[04:02] <salambander> hi all
[04:03] <salambander> is anyone else having this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339264&page=2
[04:03] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: thanks for the help
[04:03] <Ubuntu_User> why is Klamav saying wine is a virus what does loose mean?
[04:04] <koala^xmas> hi anyone speak French?
[04:04] <salambander> koala^xmas: a little :)
[04:04] <iceroot> Ubuntu_User: normal wine or an application inside wine you installed?
[04:05] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[04:05] <doug_> Hello I'm having problems with my wifi.  I'm using a broadcomm card on a gateway nv5207 laptop with xubuntu 9.04 installed.
[04:05] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i have another question on the site i look on the splash screen or colour screen, for xsplash right?
[04:05] <Jaza> Can anyone tell me if you can make a disk at once audio CD, a CD without a break?
[04:06] <frankely> hey how can i reload /etc/environment
[04:06] <frankely> hey how can i reload /etc/environment ?
[04:06] <r3dux> Was wondering if anyone could help me connect to a NAS via USB. I connect it and see ETH1 appear, assign it an IP, then try to mount it... no joy
[04:07] <Jaza> has anyone been able to make a audio CD without the 2sec break between tracks??
[04:07] <r3dux> Jaza, have you tried k3b?
[04:08] <alankila> Jaza: the keyword for that is disc-at-once.
[04:08] <doug_> Can anyone help me with my wifi problem?  I've never had this problem before and I've googled it and there are no results at all
[04:08] <r3dux> Jaza - I used to know how to do that, but that was back in the day using nero on Win32
[04:08] <doug_> I can see other wifi networks just not mine
[04:09] <r3dux> jaza - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553185
[04:09] <Jaza> I tried K3b but every time I make a CD it adds the 2sec break between tracks?
[04:09] <silverPan> doug_ is your network set to hidden?
[04:09] <r3dux> cdrdao