[04:45] <murchadh> Jucato: I'll second that. The upgrade is possible, but most people don't take the time to do it by the book. So the fresh install is the recomended option!
[04:45] <tibbar> If I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> murchadh: 'by the book' you mean fdoving's wiki howto article?
[04:46] <ZmAY> any ideas what could be wrong?
[04:47] <tibbar> gnomefreak:  If I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?
[04:47] <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: well have you tried the cd self test to make sure that it is ok?
[04:48] <ZmAY> yes, it's original, i ordered it from their page
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: are you trying to put it on a hdd with a ntfs partitions taking the total hdd?
[04:48] <ubuntu> ZmY:  maybe the CD is corrupt (chek the md5 sum)
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: is your hdd ok?
[04:48] <ZmAY> not the total
[04:48] <ZmAY> yep
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> even if it's 'an original' still needs checking
[04:50] <ZmAY> it is checked
[04:52] <ZmAY> i check the cd, and then i click on install kubuntu.. the progress bar shows but then nothing happens
[04:52] <ZmAY> all the time 0%
[04:57] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[04:57] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:02] <ccc> is that new suse k-menu (kickoff?) released and available?
[05:03] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: fixed it?
[05:03] <BluesKaj> nope
[05:04] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: have you got the lastest ati driver installed?
[05:04] <BluesKaj> actaully I'm in windoes now ...unable to access kubuntu after entering those commands on that page i showed you
[05:06] <BluesKaj> not yor commands twosouls82  ...the ones on that URL I posted in the PM
[05:07] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: I know, I found that page you linked to in my history
[05:07] <BluesKaj> I get a prompt like this : (initramfs) ...I tried to startx , but not found ..."target file doesn't have /sbin/init"
[05:07] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: do you have a console messenger installed? so one could help you out without a running x?
[05:08] <Jucato> irssi is installed by default on Kubuntu
[05:08] <BluesKaj> i tried to get into irssi but 'not found"
[05:08] <Jucato> O.o
[05:08] <twosouls82> ;) Jacuto :)
[05:09] <twosouls82> Jucato: sorry, for the miss-spelling
[05:09] <Jucato> heh
[05:09] <ZmAY> TheGateKepper: i misunderstood you before, i have 3 partitions, on all 3 there is NTFS.. "[16:48]  <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: are you trying to put it on a hdd with a ntfs partitions taking the total hdd?"
[05:09] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you could check to see if irssi is installed and if not install it using aptitude
[05:10] <twosouls82> like you did beofre
[05:10] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, this is the prompt i get after trying to boot into kubuntu ..  (initramfs)
[05:11] <BluesKaj> "target file doesn't have /sbin/init"
[05:11] <twosouls82> hmmzz.. lemme confirm my guess by Googling, BluesKaj
[05:11] <BluesKaj> ok twosouls82
[05:13] <ubuntu_> ! bot
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[05:13] <murchadh> mount
[05:13] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: what does 'aptitude search upstart | grep ^i' tell?
[05:14] <twosouls82> not possible in that promt :\
[05:14] <twosouls82> prompt*
[05:14] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, i have no access to apt
[05:14] <twosouls82> no I got that when I released enter :\
[05:14] <twosouls82> my bad
[05:15] <BluesKaj> I'm in windows
[05:15] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you are missing the upstart package which has /sbin/init in it
[05:15] <twosouls82> I guess you might be missing more too
[05:15] <twosouls82> how could that be caused, BluesKaj?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> from the commands on that page URL that i posted earlier , the one with the frglx update etc
[05:17] <BluesKaj> twosouls82,  from the commands on that page URL that i posted earlier , the one with the frglx update etc
[05:17] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: while the dependicies where resolved to install xorg-driver-fglrx, any packages deinstalled?
[05:17] <BluesKaj> it's my fault , twosouls82  ...i thought it would work
[05:18] <BluesKaj> dunno twosouls82 , i rebooted
[05:18] <BluesKaj> and got that prompt
[05:18] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: shit can happen :) would be nice if we solved this, which is possible if you ask me
[05:18] <BluesKaj> ok , twosouls82 ..let's try
[05:19] <twosouls82> lemme Google some more first
[05:19] <twosouls82> ;)
[05:19] <ubuntu_> ! google
[05:19] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[05:19] <twosouls82> :D
[05:19] <twosouls82> aye ubuntu_^5
[05:19] <BluesKaj> ok NP twosouls82 ... I have lots of time :)
[05:21] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: this is not going to be easy, but I am getting somewhere. still lots of reading :P
[05:22] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: btw, what happens when you boot in save mode?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> same thing twosouls82
[05:23] <ubuntu> can someone please help me get back into my linux box....
[05:23] <brink> wow kUbuntu is so wicked easy install , I have tried suse 10,1 7 days fusking around, fed zod 6 4 days fusking around and KUbuntu works straight from the install ,,, Very impressed to the TEAM, Thank You
[05:24] <mattjunx> is anyone here testing feisty? nobody's talking in #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <ubuntu> everytime I try to login.....i put in my password and it looks like it is going then back to the login prompt i go
[05:24] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you can use the live cd to mount the file system, chroot to it, and recreate the initrd and reinstall the kernel.. but a tut for it would be nice
[05:25] <mattjunx> if you're in a LiveCD, is it possible to chroot to your system on your harddrive to update packages?
[05:25] <ubuntu> im using the live cd now
[05:25] <twosouls82> I assume, something that logical, is possible :)
[05:25] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: mount --bind /proc and /dev and you will be fine
[05:25] <twosouls82> still looking for a confirmation on Google though
[05:25] <mattjunx> k
[05:26] <mattjunx> gotta burn a livecd then so I can fix feisty :P
[05:26] <BluesKaj> tut?
[05:26] <twosouls82> orial
[05:26] <twosouls82> :P
[05:26] <ubuntu> can some one help me log back into my system?
[05:27] <mattjunx> ubuntu: have you tried logging in via the console?
[05:27] <mattjunx> ctrl+alt+f1
[05:27] <mattjunx> if you can't log in via there, then you have a major problem
[05:27] <mattjunx> if you can log in via there, you probably have some corrupted software
[05:27] <ubuntu> give me some steps?...also after i log into the system what do i need to do?
[05:28] <mattjunx> alright
[05:28] <mattjunx> when you get to the log in screen, press ctrl+alt+f1
[05:28] <mattjunx> you'll have a textual log in prompt
[05:28] <mattjunx> enter your username and your password
[05:28] <mattjunx> (passwords don't show up as stars when you log in that way, so just type it in and hit enter anyways)
[05:28] <ubuntu> ok
[05:28] <twosouls82> BluesKaj:
[05:29] <ubuntu> then what?
[05:29] <twosouls82> lets try it
[05:29] <mattjunx> if you log in successfully (you'll get a username@hostname:~$ prompt
[05:29] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: pm?
[05:29] <ubuntu> right
[05:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You logged out?
[05:29] <ubuntu> yes
[05:29] <ubuntu> i am on the live cd now
[05:29] <mattjunx> if that doesn't work, you've got some issues that might take a bit of work to fix
[05:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: try pressing alt+ctrl=backspace
[05:29] <DaSkreech> + backspace
[05:30] <ubuntu> i was going to reinstall but it told me i had no root defined which i did
[05:30] <DaSkreech> There is no password on the CD as far as I know ?
[05:31] <mattjunx> DaSkreech: there isn't a password for the ubuntu user
[05:31] <mattjunx> root is probably randomly generated
[05:31] <mattjunx> I'll check since I'm gonna be booting in a livecd on my other computer in a couple minutes anyhow
[05:31] <DaSkreech> It's not it's disabled
[05:32] <mattjunx> how do you disable root?
[05:32] <mattjunx> like, nologin sort of thing?
[05:32] <mattjunx> because root still owns a lot of processes in a livecd...
[05:33] <ubuntu> rafter i restart and login to the console what do i need to do?
[05:33] <mattjunx> okay, I've got a question: what files do I need to copy from a LiveCD to get the ipw2200 firmware?
[05:33] <mattjunx> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:33] <ubuntu> and that will fix my system?
[05:34] <mattjunx> maybe
[05:34] <mattjunx> if you can't log in, I know a way that might work
[05:34] <ubuntu> ok?
[05:34] <ubuntu> i am already using 6.10?
[05:35] <mattjunx> that updates the programs
[05:35] <ubuntu> right i now
[05:35] <mattjunx> well, I always use dist-upgrade just in case, but you could use upgrade
[05:35] <ubuntu> it started this morning saying my disk was full......but i am along way from being full
[05:36] <ubuntu> when i rebooted it wouldnt let me in
[05:36] <mattjunx> if you still can't log in, reboot, hit escape when you see the "grub loading stage2" thing, and boot into the topmost "recovery mode" option
[05:37] <mattjunx> when you get the "root@hostname:~#" prompt, run "passwd yourusername"
[05:37] <sonja-ny> Can he not make a second user/password and set the string to (0) for the password ONE ?
[05:37] <mattjunx> and you can change your password from there; it might be corrupted, who knows
[05:37] <mattjunx> sonja-ny: I have no idea :/
[05:37] <mattjunx> well, I'll be back soonish
[05:37] <ubuntu> if i could add another user....i could send all my stuff over to it
[05:38] <mattjunx> it'd probably be easier to fix your current profile
[05:38] <sonja-ny> sorry mattjunx , my install is soo good I just sticking around to help out, I got no problems to fix poor poor me
[05:38] <ubuntu> whats the commands to add a user?
[05:38] <mattjunx> adduser
[05:38] <sonja-ny> adduser
[05:38] <sonja-ny> oops
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: you probably want to edit adduser.conf first
[05:38] <mattjunx> you'll want to add yourself to a bunch of groups, though
[05:39] <mattjunx> adduser username groupname
[05:39] <Dr_willis> hmm.. even if the disk was full.. it still should of reserved like 5% for emergancyes..  odd.
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: saves having to type in all the groups manually
[05:39] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What are you trying to do?
[05:39] <mattjunx> h3sp4wn: now you tell me :P
[05:39] <ubuntu> my system will not let me in
[05:39] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Since when?
[05:40] <mattjunx> h3sp4wn: uh, where do you set the default groups in adduser.conf?
[05:40] <ubuntu> every time i login in it goes straight back to the login prompt
[05:40] <ZmAY> does anyone know solution for this problem: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6474.0
[05:40] <ubuntu> little while ago
[05:40] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You logged in from console?
[05:40] <sonja-ny> and ubuntu had a disk FULL
[05:40] <ubuntu> not yet i am when i reboot?
[05:40] <syntaxx> im having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> I mean you tried to login from the console and it logs in but logs you back out?
[05:41] <mattjunx> ZmAY: try running memtest86, you might have some bad RAM (that's happened to me before)
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Dink: Hey dink
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Dink: I was being an idiot :)
[05:41] <ubuntu> no i havent logged in from the console yet
[05:41] <ZmAY> ok..
[05:41] <mattjunx> does anyone here know uniq?
[05:42] <ubuntu> what group should i be in?
[05:42] <ubuntu> when i add the groupname?
[05:42] <mattjunx> adm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin fuse
[05:42] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Can You mount the hard drive when in the CD?
[05:42] <mattjunx> and your username as another group (your primary group)
[05:42] <sonja-ny> ZmAY: you have the same settings as me I also have the amd 3200
[05:42] <ZmAY> ram is good
[05:42] <ubuntu> how would i do that?
[05:42] <ZmAY> dont know what to do
[05:43] <mattjunx> ZmAY: have you tested it overnight?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: mkdir drive
[05:43] <sonja-ny> Zmay , did you ever check the first disk you downloaded to C if it was correct
[05:43] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/hda1 drive
[05:43] <DaSkreech> assuming that your Kubuntu is on hda1
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: EXTRA_GROUPS="dialout cdrom floppy audio src video lp users uml-run"
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: --add_extra_groups to adduser (or set ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS=1) then you don't need to
[05:44] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 drive
[05:44] <ubuntu> mount: mount point drive does not exist
[05:44] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda2 drive
[05:44] <ubuntu> mount: mount point drive does not exist
[05:44] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[05:44] <ubuntu> mount: mount point drive does not exist
[05:44] <ZmAY> my friend has this problem, my kubuntu works.. he's running winXP, and trying to install kubuntu on 1 partition, but after he click kubuntu-install, progress bar shows but stops at 0%
[05:44] <mattjunx> adduser --add_extra_groups ?
[05:44] <Hawkwind> !paste | ubuntu
[05:44] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:45] <mattjunx> Hawkwind: wrong syntax apparently
[05:45] <mattjunx> !help > Hawkwind
[05:45] <ubuntu> well i didnt think it was that much
[05:45] <mattjunx> I think
[05:45] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: Excuse me ?
[05:45] <ubuntu> or i would have used it
[05:45] <mattjunx> ubuntu: more than one line and it pisses people off
[05:45] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: you are getting a full drive error?
[05:45] <ubuntu> sorry just ill
[05:45] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: 2+ lines is too much
[05:45] <mattjunx> Hawkwind: we all got the message
[05:45] <ubuntu> ok
[05:45] <DaSkreech>  ubuntu: You missed teh mkdir drive command
[05:45] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: It was meant that way, it was addressed to ubuntu though if you look closely
[05:45] <mattjunx> oh?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> ubotu )-> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:46] <mattjunx> I thought you could use the > thing to redirect output
[05:46] <Hawkwind> Like that
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> No reason to spam the channel with it though
[05:46] <mattjunx> it'd be nice if it /msg'd someone instead
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Hey tackat
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: agreed
[05:46] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: It can, !paste > ubuntu would have done that
[05:46] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: I did it in here for a reason, a very obvious reason
[05:46] <mattjunx> alright, I'll be back soon, does anyone know what files I need to copy to get the ipw2200 firmware?
[05:47] <tackat> Hi DaSkreech
[05:47] <mattjunx> Hawkwind: oh, I get it, lawlzors
[05:47] <ubuntu> it let me mount it
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Whats ipw2200 ?
[05:47] <ZmAY> sonya-ny: any other suggestions?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Morning again :)
[05:47] <ubuntu> drive 3 that is where my ext partition is
[05:47] <PaulCarpenter> hey guys, does anyone here know about the fingerprint things that come with ibm laptops?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ok when you ls on drive do you see the folders you expect?
[05:48] <sonja-ny> Zmay, I am tyracing back all my steps on the install, I know mine hung for a while on 0% then it kinda jumped fast up .. I left it for n hour and went shoping for shoes, when i got back it was done, mine also Did hang BUT installed flawless
[05:48] <ZmAY> in this case doesent move from 0%, it left it for 6h and nothing changed, still 0%
[05:49] <sonja-ny> Zmay, sorry in this case I am also stuck, I normally use a live CD like  slax kill bill , for testing out pcs , before i use a HDD installer
[05:50] <sonja-ny> Zmay did U use the 86 Kubuntu ?
[05:50] <ZmAY> yes
[05:50] <syntaxx> im having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?
[05:51] <sonja-ny> its the same specs as this pcs which is running just wicked, although with other linux flavours, They did tell me that my 400 Dram was to small , this one didnt
[05:51] <Sharketor> hello
[05:52] <DaSkreech> sonja-ny: Hi
[05:52] <sonja-ny> DaSkreech: Hi Sir, just having a blast Kubuntu , I am going to marry it
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Hey! I asked first!!
[05:53] <sonja-ny> well then ,, YEs I do, but i got an Iron clad PRE nup ok ?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Hi Quinn_Storm
[05:56] <Quinn_Storm> hi
[05:56] <DaSkreech> sonja-ny: Man I was going for platinum but if you are ok with Iron
[05:57] <mjunx> yeah, well, now I don't know what to do...
[05:57] <sonja-ny> DaSkreech: iron is ok for me , i just dont want you marrying me for my money and my HOG's or my dodge trucks lol
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Oh No worries about that :)
[05:58] <sonja-ny> DaSkreech: my prenup has s3x four times a day in it, can you live with that ?????
[05:58] <cdc> Hi
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Sure as long as they are all within 30 minutes of each other :)
[05:59] <cdc> Are there any problem with dhclient and ipw3945??
[05:59] <cdc> The wireless card seem to work properly when I set static IP
[06:00] <cdc> But it cannot get IP from DHCP server
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Man kubuntu is felling ignored during that :)
[06:00] <sonja-ny> cdc is this the only pc on the router ?
[06:00] <cdc> no
[06:01] <sonja-ny> crube: I work from my home office , I got loads of time ...........................
[06:01] <cdc> Ops
[06:01] <cdc> time to go
[06:01] <cdc> I'll try it tomorrow
[06:01] <cdc> bye
[06:01] <sonja-ny> cdc good luck
[06:02] <cdc> thx
[06:03] <syntaxx> im having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?
[06:04] <lotusleaf> If a user installs Ubuntu and installes Kubuntu-desktop and eventually uses Kubuntu as their desktop, as well as additional things like amarok and other fresh new releases via kubuntu.org repos, should they add the kubuntu.org kde repo (latest) as well? are there a lot of new kde packages that don't make it to the ubuntu repos aside from amarok?
[06:05] <trappist> lotusleaf: I do
[06:06] <sonja-ny> lotusleaf: Hell YES
[06:06] <lotusleaf> trappist: thx ;-)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: Just monitor the topic of this chan. All new apps that get released are announced here
[06:06] <lotusleaf> sonja-ny: heh, thx ;)
[06:06] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: thx =)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: Basically It's Koffice Amarok and KDE releases
[06:06] <mjunx> that's all I've ever seen
[06:06] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: thx and do misc. libs and such get updated too in the kubuntu repo that don't hit the ubuntu repo?
[06:07] <mjunx> did they ever backport libxine 1.1.2 (I think it was that) so that amarok-xine could play flac in dapper?
[06:07] <mjunx> lotusleaf: not that I've seen, but it's possible
[06:07] <mjunx> they'd probably get updated in edgy-backports (or the -backports for your release) if anything
[06:07] <lotusleaf> mjunx: k thx =)
[06:08] <lotusleaf> awesome, appreciate the quick & helpful answers despite the many tired people in various channels right now. ;-)
[06:08] <mjunx> lucky you; I'm not getting any answers in #ubuntu+1 :(
[06:08] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: That would be the backports
[06:09] <mjunx> well, brb, gotta restart X to get 915resolution applied... I hate this hack
[06:09] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: k thx =)
[06:11] <mjunx> I've gotta script this someday
[06:11] <mjunx> until Xorg 7.3 (I think that's the one) can detect hardware on the fly like it should
[06:12] <DaSkreech> 7.3 good lord that's a long way away
[06:12] <mjunx> I know
[06:12] <mjunx> but I think it's gonna be in feisty+1
[06:13] <mjunx> which is why ubuntu's not going to bother making Xorg <7.3 easily configurable since it'd be a "waste of time"...
[06:13] <mjunx> I think it'd be useful since Ubuntu will be one of the only distros that uses 7.3 in its stable release for a while...
[06:13] <mjunx> (gentoo doesn't count since they use up to date packages all the time)
[06:14] <voidmage> gentoo never counts :P
[06:17] <BluesKaj> ok guys , I'm running the live cd in order to reinstate job control/kernel ... any ideas ?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> in other words,what's next ?
[06:17] <mjunx> BluesKaj: are you running feisty?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> edgy
[06:17] <mjunx> damn
[06:21] <sonic> Anyone here use Kmail?
[06:21] <mjunx> me
[06:21] <sonic> Hi mjunx
[06:21] <mjunx> hey, sonic
[06:21] <sonic> Just wondering do I have to keep all my sent items it the same folder for all acounts?
[06:22] <sonic> eg I set up a mail account
[06:22] <sonic> My 'sent items', 'drafts' etc all go into the dirs in 'Local folders'
[06:22] <sonic> I want them to go into dirs under the account name
[06:22] <e1mer> !feisty
[06:22] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:23] <ibert_> sonic: if you are using an imap server like gmx this does'nt make sense
[06:23] <sonic> ibert_: why?
[06:23] <mjunx> hmm, I don't know specifically since I put then all in sent-items
[06:23] <mjunx> if there's no option specific to the account options, you can make filters that puts them where you want
[06:23] <sonic> See I wanted a sent items dir for each account
[06:23] <sonic> There are options but
[06:24] <sonic> I get strange errors
[06:24] <sonic> I can set the destination folders for each account
[06:24] <ibert_> sonic: but that' fine, isn't it?
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> You could use procmail for sorting your mail out
[06:24] <sonic> but when I go to send a message I get:
[06:25] <ibert_> sonic: I use it like this
[06:25] <trappist> sonic: you can set this stuff up in kmail
[06:25] <trappist> sonic: (I assume you're using kmail)
[06:26] <sonja-ny> I have three printers hooked up to this pc, some via ftp , etc.. I have found all the good ones, but i also have a sleazy hp deskjet D2330 , which IS picked up by kubuntu, but its so NEW I know there are no drivers for linux, any way i can PROBE it in a term etc... I dont realy need it, its just handy for little docs i print out,, Its the only one that dont work ?
[06:26] <trappist> sonic: just edit your identity and go to the 'advanced' tab
[06:27] <syntaxx> ok my tvtime already have sound after doing modprobe -r bt878 bttv and modprobe snd_bt87x modprobe bt878 now how can i make it permanently? that i dont have to redo it everytime i restarted my ubuntu?
[06:28] <sonic> trappist: I did that but I'm getting errors saying this could be because I do not have permissions on this resource
[06:28] <sonic> I presume that's the mail server itself
[06:28] <trappist> syntaxx: add modules you don't want to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, and add ones you want to /etc/modules
[06:28] <ibert_> syntaxx: in /etc/rc.local
[06:28] <trappist> sonic: yep that's probably the imap server
[06:28] <trappist> sonic: I use courier-imapd on my mail server and it all works well
[06:29] <sonic> It's just been suggested to me that I should put dirs like 'sent-items', 'trash' etc shold be subdirs of the 'inbox'. Is this true?
[06:29] <syntaxx> trappist: ok so im gonna add blacklist bttv and in /etc/modules the bt878 and snd_bt87x?
[06:29] <sonic> They're usuallly on the same level as the inbox in my experience
[06:29] <trappist> sonic: that might work out better for you, yeah
[06:30] <trappist> syntaxx: that ought to do it
[06:30] <syntaxx> trappist: and it will not affect anything that is auto loaded at boot?
[06:30] <sonic> The dirs don't exist on the imap server so should I set the permissions so that I can create the dirs on the server?
[06:31] <trappist> syntaxx: it will prevent things you don't want from loading, and it will auto-load what you want - shouldn't affect anything else
[06:31] <syntaxx> trappist: ok then.. ill reboot and try thanks
[06:31] <trappist> sonic: or create them on the server yourself - that's what I do
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !fiesty
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <unrealbr> abre o konsole e?
[06:33] <unrealbr> ooops
[06:33] <unrealbr> sry
[06:33] <sonic> Cheers guys thanks for the help
[06:37] <michael_> Hi, I have lost the wireless in system settings. Is there a way to get Kubuntu as when it was newly installed?
[06:37] <mjunx> michael_: have you tried running kcontrol to see if it's in there?
[06:38] <mjunx> alt+f2 -> type kcontrol -> enter
[06:38] <michael_> Yes, I was trying with ndiswrapper and installing a Debian kernel so I think I change configuration files
[06:39] <mjunx> well, ndiswrapper is beyond my realm of knowledge
[06:40] <Bubba_Gump> any know of a good p2p client
[06:40] <Bubba_Gump> ?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> depends on the network
[06:40] <Dr_willis> theres ooooodles of p2p clients out
[06:40] <syntaxx> trappist: i rebooted but still i need to do it
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[06:40] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[06:41] <Bubba_Gump> i'm using aMule at the moment
[06:41] <Bubba_Gump> which is good for hard to find files and such :)
[06:41] <sonja-ny> amule a minute virus lol
[06:42] <DaSkreech> !fluxbuntu
[06:42] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a Ubuntu-derivative based on the FluxBox Desktop Environment. It is lightweight, swift and sleek. | Fluxbuntu Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Fluxbuntu Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ | The Fluxbuntu Community: http://community.fluxbuntu.org/
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Egads - another one?!
[06:42] <DaSkreech> So there is a fluxbuntu-manager pacakge?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> how about an Icewmubuntu
[06:42] <defrysk> Bubba_Gump, try nicotine
[06:42] <Dr_willis> and a windowmakerubuntu
[06:42] <Bubba_Gump> nicotine?
[06:43] <defrysk> Bubba_Gump, a souolseek clone
[06:43] <defrysk> soulseek*
[06:43] <Bubba_Gump> heh :)
[06:43] <Bubba_Gump> ok
[06:43] <twosouls82> museek+? :)
[06:43] <twosouls82> or better museeq, qt fork of it
[06:43] <icheyne> Bubba_Gump, ktorrent and http://torrentz.com
[06:43] <defrysk> is there a kde clone for nicotine ?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I think someone should make a "multi-ubuntu" that just asks what desktops to install.. and downloads the packages during the install.
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> and, one more thing :)
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> a good virus scanner
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> anyone know of one?
[06:44] <defrysk> get your latest ktorrent here : http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-edgy/
[06:44] <twosouls82> defrysk: there is museeq a fork of museek+, which is a slsk client using the Qt toolkit
[06:44] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: Hell yes KDE all the way
[06:44] <icheyne> Bubba_Gump, antivirus is not really required
[06:44] <defrysk> twosouls82, good to know :)
[06:44] <sonja-ny> Bubba_Gump: on linux lol hmmmmmmm not needed
[06:45] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,   all these variants with just different desktop and eye candy for the splash screens are getting silly. :)
[06:45] <londo4> help::: Mixer cannot be found
[06:45] <Bubba_Gump> very nice :D
[06:45] <icheyne> Bubba_Gump, AVG do one, but I don't use it
[06:45] <twosouls82> defrysk: there is a repo listed for dapper and edgy on their site
[06:45] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: yes true but each to there OWN, thats linux I love KDe, gnome is ok , but not for me
[06:45] <defrysk> not a repo but there is a directory for dapper also
[06:45] <defrysk> twosouls82, http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-dapper/
[06:46] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  right. but theres no need for me to get a seperate' fluxubuntu' cd - since it should just be an apt-get install away....
[06:46] <twosouls82> defrysk: I meant for museeq, the slsk client
[06:46] <twosouls82> :)
[06:46] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  ive had to explain to way too many people that kubuntu and ubuntu are  the same core with just different packages. :)
[06:46] <defrysk> twosouls82, oh hehe
[06:46] <londo4> sound card no installed[06:46] <defrysk> twosouls82, link ?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> http://fluxbuntu.org/   heh
[06:47] <londo4> Mixer cannot be found
[06:47] <Dr_willis> Fluxbuntu Linux on Distrowatch; Sony Playstation 3
[06:47] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: you right , to WIN over more linux users from winsucks, we need to have a good install and BTW all the linux distros I have used, and live cds too, Kubuntu is the BEST i have ever had
[06:47] <twosouls82> defrysk: http://www.museek-plus.org/wiki/MuseekOnDebian .. the 'On Ubuntu GNU/Linux' section
[06:48] <defrysk> twosouls82, thanks :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  for my laptop its kicks booty. :) i just put that 'linux mint' ubuntu variant.. (guess he couldent think of a mintubuntu name)
[06:48] <Clinton__> I've got a camera which did automount just fine under Kubuntu, now when I plug it in I get the standard dialog asking me what to do.  I select "Open a window" for it, and nothing happens.  When I look at the mount, the camera hasn't been mounted.  Anyone have an idea what might be happening here?
[06:48] <londo4> Admiral_Chicago, could you help me? I was trying to fixe it but I did not get it work
[06:48] <twosouls82> defrysk: read acrefully before just issueing the commands there
[06:48] <twosouls82> :)
[06:48] <twosouls82> replace branch with edgy
[06:48] <twosouls82> carefully*
[06:48] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: you have a link i want to convert my pressario R3000 over
[06:49] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  for mint linux? i got it from that Disrtowatch page.
[06:49] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: thanks googling it now
[06:49] <defrysk> twosouls82, , its bookmarked , gonna check it out tomorrow :)
[06:49] <defrysk> distort watch ?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Distrowatch
[06:50] <yoyo> slt tous le monde
[06:50] <defrysk> !fr | yoyo
[06:50] <ubotu> yoyo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:50] <twosouls82> aye defrysk :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fluxbuntu
[06:51] <londo4> help
[06:51] <londo4> Help
[06:51] <londo4> sound card driver
[06:53] <londo4> Who can help me with sound card driver problem?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> londo4: Which sound card?
[06:55] <londo4> I got onboard soundcard
[06:55] <sonja-ny> londo4: can you tell us the pc specs so we can have a look ?
[06:55] <campbch> !midi
[06:55] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:56] <londo4> yes, Dell Optiplex G1
[06:56] <londo4> P2
[06:57] <DaSkreech> londo4: What does lshw tell you?
[06:58] <londo4> There is not sound, I see a icon it says Mixer cannot be found
[06:58] <sonja-ny> londo4:  did it work in winblows ???
[06:58] <londo4> Yes it works in windows
[06:58] <DaSkreech> I'd guess yes :)
[06:59] <sonja-ny> sorry just asking , no ned to fix something thats dead lol
[06:59] <londo4> I have crystal WDM codec sound card
[06:59] <DaSkreech> londo4: Can You go to a terminal and type lshw
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:59] <sonja-ny> Ahhhhhhh
[06:59] <londo4> its than
[07:00] <campbch> !lshw
[07:00] <ubotu> lshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 676 kB
[07:01] <sara> mites oli
[07:02] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Small I today
[07:02] <londo4> DaSkreech>
[07:03] <DaSkreech> yes londo4
[07:03] <inkwell> small 1?
[07:03] <inkwell> i?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> small i
[07:03] <inkwell> o
[07:03] <DaSkreech> k
[07:03] <londo4> a iordy audio
[07:03] <inkwell> i'm goin nuts tring to learn this linux stuff
[07:04] <inkwell> i try one thing and screw something else up
[07:04] <londo4> Do I have to see some specifically place?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> londo4: I'm looking for a troubleshooter
[07:07] <londo4> DaSkreech"
[07:07] <londo4> Ok
[07:07] <DaSkreech> londo4: incedentially you can ask in #ubuntu as well the answer they come up with will be the same as the one we come up with
[07:07] <DaSkreech> inkwell: What did you break :)
[07:08] <inkwell> aptitude
[07:08] <DaSkreech> inkwell: What's it saying?
 With that answer I can`t make ik work
[07:09] <DaSkreech> What did they say?
[07:09] <londo4> they geve me a link to read
[07:09] <inkwell>  Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:09] <londo4> but I did not foud the soluction
[07:09] <londo4> I want to google also
[07:10] <Dr_willis> inkwell,  this is when it pays to learn the basics first.. then slowly start tweaking/changing things.
[07:10] <inkwell> i quess so
[07:10] <Dr_willis> inkwell,  sounds like you got a typo on your        /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:10] <DaSkreech> londo4: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5464&highlight=audio+irq
[07:10] <inkwell> yea
[07:10] <Dr_willis> 'crawl/walk/run/fly' :)
[07:10] <inkwell> reinstall?
[07:11] <londo4> Ok
[07:11] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Ha ha No. Can you pastebin your sources?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> !pastebin > inkwell
[07:11] <londo4> I will go there
[07:11] <Dr_willis> reinstall = the windows answer
[07:11] <DaSkreech> the file you are looking for is /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <Dr_willis> LEARN the system and learn how to fix things = the linux answer
[07:12] <inkwell> when u paste? whats that do in that screen?
[07:13] <inkwell> i paste what i'm getting for an error in the big box
[07:13] <inkwell> ?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> pastebin is a web site you can cut/paste text to - then you give us the url of the paste, so we can se it in out browsers.
[07:13] <sonja-ny> inkwell: try this site http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:13] <Dr_willis> a paste of the apt.sources file is proberly a start.
[07:14] <inkwell> i like driving myself nuts with learning new stuff
[07:14] <Dr_willis> 'crawl/walk/run/fly' :)
[07:14] <sonja-ny> inkwell then TRY that link ?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> when in doubt.. read, read , read, read....
[07:14] <Dr_willis> it slowly starts fitting all togeher
[07:15] <sonja-ny> linux is NOT windows,,so dont ask us to make it work like it,, ask bill gates to get better hehehehe, or steal more from US
[07:15] <DaSkreech> inkwell: When you paste in the box it should refresh the page. Give us teh URL at teh top
[07:15] <inkwell> ok
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Then we can all see it if we want to :)
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Without disturbing those who don't want to see it
[07:16] <DaSkreech> YEah I get that a lot
[07:17] <inkwell> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33316/
[07:17] <DaSkreech> but you are going to get O-T real fast :)
[07:17] <inkwell> right?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Yes sir
[07:18] <sonja-ny> Yes Sir inkwell did you SUDO IT ?
[07:18] <inkwell> sudo what?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> inkwell: can you copy the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?
[07:18] <otaku-san> sudo....at the beginning of a command that needs root access
[07:18] <DaSkreech> inkwell: press Alt+F2 and type kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <inkwell> past this?
[07:19] <sonja-ny> inkwell: linux has TWO logins one is @ user one is ROOT, we need the ROOT commands
[07:19] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Yes
[07:20] <inkwell> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33317/
[07:20] <otaku-san> sonja-ny: should of probably started my explanation like that ;)  I'm so dumb
[07:20] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Did you put in that nividia-glx at the top?
[07:20] <sonja-ny> inkwell: thats what we need thank you
[07:20] <kittisak> hello everybody
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Hi
[07:21] <inkwell> i dunno
[07:21] <otaku-san> howdy
[07:21] <inkwell> maby
[07:21] <inkwell> should i take it out?
[07:21] <sonja-ny> otaku-san: sorry my bad i am just helping out , i aint no guru, just N end user, you take it from here and sorry
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> inkwell, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:22] <DaSkreech> inkwell: yes
[07:22] <otaku-san> sonja-ny: no I'm with you...I'm so n00b.  I was complimenting you....
[07:22] <sonja-ny> otaku-san: then lets have @ beer and @ smoke and be friends
[07:23] <DaSkreech> inkwell: that should make aptitude work again
[07:23] <kittisak> everybody help me !!!
[07:23] <kittisak> please
[07:23] <DaSkreech> inkwell: want to learn some more about that system
[07:23] <DaSkreech> kittisak: You honestly don't want that
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[07:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:23] <otaku-san> sonja-ny: Deal!  Nice to meet cha'.  *sips beer*
[07:23] <sonja-ny> kittisak: I am @ lesbian do you realy want my help ?
[07:24] <Dr_willis>  @ lesbian ?
[07:24] <kittisak> i have problem ISPConfig with postfix,can use email client but, test send from yahoo relay access denied
[07:24] <sonja-ny> otaku-san: got smoke too, peace pipe
[07:24] <otaku-san> sweeet
[07:24] <sonja-ny> yahooooooooooo omFG does anyone use that spam anymore ??
[07:25] <Tm_T> Er?
[07:25] <inkwell> i took the nvidia line out in kate but it won't save
[07:25] <Lynoure> Tm_T: indeed
[07:25] <kittisak> F1 F1 Please :-)
[07:25] <miso> I'm considering running a web server (apache) on my box so that family can see photos. Any suggestions for a decent photo album generator?
[07:26] <Lynoure> kittisak: F1? That's the first of the function keys, you'll have to press it yourself :)
[07:27] <kittisak> i have problem ISPConfig with postfix,can use email client but, test send from yahoo relay access denied
[07:27] <TheGateKeeper> inkwell, follow the url I gave you, if you want to edit your sources so Run Command... then kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[07:27] <sonja-ny> Lynoure: is not F1 that European racing like nascar but shumi always wins aka farrarri
[07:28] <Lynoure> kittisak: I use exim4 myself, so my postfix skills might be rusty, but have you already configured into it what domains it accepts mail for?
[07:28] <sonja-ny> kdesu ??? damn it TheGateKeeper is that another sudo command ?
[07:29] <miso> I'm thinking a PHP generated album but opinions appreciated
[07:29] <DaSkreech> kittisak: ISPconfig?
[07:29] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, yes, sudo you use for cli commands for gui apps you prefix with kdesu
[07:30] <kittisak> ISPConfig last version
[07:30] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: thank you sir, googling it now
[07:31] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, np :-)
[07:31] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: http://www.ispconfig.org/, I assume
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Hi arafat
[07:32] <inkwell> thanks for your patience, annoy ya later
[07:32] <DaSkreech> inkwell: gone?
[07:32] <sonja-ny> moin moin arafat
[07:32] <Lynoure> kittisak: if you are paying someone for the use of the panel, they could help you. I do almost all my admining on a command line and cannot tell you how to use ISPConfig for it
[07:32] <inkwell> doc appt.
[07:32] <inkwell> be back soon
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, a little collection of bits & pieces I have put together: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/
[07:35] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper:  you may find D. Bouley's guide helpfull, Thank you ,,, and YEs i do find it easy to use, nice Guide BTW , keep it up , its the way to introduce more peeps to linux
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, pleased you like it :-)
[07:37] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: the pleasure was all mine, and yes I will eventually release my blog on linux distros i have tried and made them work from 64 AMD to P2 5 gig HDD boxes, they all , work fast
[07:45] <sonja-ny> Is there any way in a term window, I can reformat my hard drive and ADD another partion , so I can switch over from one linux distro to another, but NOT loose my country tunes and some live DVDS I want to keep , before i switch over a suse box to Kubuntu ?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> londo4: how are you doing?
[07:46] <Dink> DaSkreech, huh ?
[07:46] <londo4> to bad man\
[07:47] <londo4> I did not fixe it
[07:47] <DaSkreech> londo4: that's too bad then?
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, use gparted livecd
[07:47] <londo4> very bad
[07:47] <Chris_Swift> Hi, anyone know where I can get the Edgy KUbuntu Source code?
[07:47] <DaSkreech> londo4: try searching for DELL and sound on the forums
[07:47] <londo4> there is someone who knows
[07:47] <londo4> ok
[07:47] <DaSkreech>  apparently a lot of Dells use that card
[07:47] <londo4> Ok
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: Umm mind being a bit more specific?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: great part message :)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Dink: I'm being an idiot :0
[07:48] <Chris_Swift> The whole code
[07:48] <Chris_Swift> like a Source CD
[07:48] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: ???
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: I guess you could install it and then just get source packages
[07:49] <Chris_Swift> Any idea with install?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Dink: the PS3 can't possibly be used as a DVR
[07:49] <Chris_Swift> lol, PS3 isnt that good
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: again not sure what you are asking
[07:49] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: thanks for the wonderfull advice , once again
[07:49] <Chris_Swift> Any idea how to get it without installing Kubuntu?
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, yw :-)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <velle> Hey. Are the mailing lists really the recommended way to ask questions (besides IRC)? I think the system is extremely primitive. What do you think about that?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> velle: how is it private?
[07:50] <Dink> If you install linux on it i guess you could do it from there but i dont use DVR now so no clue on how it all works
[07:50] <DaSkreech> excludes people with internet connections?
[07:50] <Chris_Swift> thanks
[07:50] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, there are several partition apps, use whatever you are comfortable using
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Dink: well there are no TV In slots are there? no cable in either
[07:51] <velle> DaSkreech: I said primitive, not private
[07:51] <DaSkreech>  so how would it get a signal?
[07:51] <Dink> run myth client on it or something and push it to there ?
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, might also be of interest: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:51] <DaSkreech> velle: Ah perhaps but they are easily archivable and searchable which makes hem very good for historical and research purposes
[07:51] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: I am switching over a suse box to Kubuntu , but i wanted to save my Country music and avis. Garth brooks etc....
[07:51] <Dink> you would still need another comp to get the signal
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: I'm hearing there are source CDs?
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, you could also burn to dvd if you have a burner
[07:52] <binks> hi can someone help with a strange edgy problem
[07:52] <BluesKaj> well DaSkreech, i managed to do some damage to Edgy while trying to fix some Google Earth GUI probs ...now i can't boot into edgy  ... I get this prompt (initramts) after the message: target filesystem doesn't have /sbin.init
[07:52] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: are you married lol ,, damn it its all i needed
[07:52] <velle> but why not normal forums?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> velle: there are forums as well if you want to use those
[07:53] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, :-)
[07:53] <binks> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[07:53] <BluesKaj> err... /sbin/init
[07:53] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: check if you have a /sbin/init :)
[07:53] <velle> and... is the mailing lists the typical way to get help? or the forums?
[07:53] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: NO its an old DELL no burner but been with me for all my life, and she is fast as hell I tuned it... I just want my movies and music and konvert her to Kubuntu
[07:53] <DaSkreech> velle: to get help? the forums
[07:54] <DaSkreech> velle: to have input on the future of Kubuntu would be mailing list
[07:54] <BluesKaj> I can't DaSkreech...i can't boot into edgy ...running off the live cd right now
[07:54] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: I can burn on this pc its an amd 64 bit and use the disks to live the older pc
[07:54] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Right so mount your drive
[07:55] <ruedi> !torvalds
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <happycow-> When Kubuntu asks me to update the system, should I just update anything it says ?
[07:55] <BluesKaj> I would if I knew how , DaSkreech
[07:55] <sonja-ny> linus torvalds ..MY GOD
[07:55] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, well if you want a fast distro then have a look at arch, you have to build it from a base system, but it's fast, kubuntu has many attributes but speed ain't one of them
[07:55] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: do you know what drive you have LInux on?
[07:55] <velle> DaSkreech: Do you use the mailing lists? dont your email client get totally flooded?
[07:55] <BluesKaj> hda3 i think
[07:56] <DaSkreech> velle: depends on what you are subscribed into
[07:56] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: can we take this private.... I dont want to be told OFF ..... using a none Kubuntu format ?
[07:56] <velle> DaSkreech: and there is only one way of cleaning: manually
[07:56] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok then type mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[07:56] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, yes by all means
[07:56] <londo4> Help!!Help -->>> looking in the KDE window the little sound icon has a red X on it and says "mixer
[07:56] <DaSkreech> velle: Cleaning?
[07:57] <jerod> hi
[07:57] <DaSkreech> londo4: wasn;t like that before?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> hi
[07:57] <londo4> be found"KMix. The is a older Dell computer OptiPlex GX1
[07:57] <londo4> It was
[07:57] <SeanTater> Does anyone recommend a audio CD ripping program that allows manually setting where the audio files are to be saved?
[07:57] <jerod> hab mal ne frage. wie kann ich flash unter 64 amd installieren bei kubuntu
[07:57] <velle> DaSkreech: aaahhm, removing the unwanted mails, if I dont want to read anything from a thread, I still have to delete all the incoming
[07:57] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: Konqueror
[07:57] <LjL> !de | jerod
[07:57] <ubotu> jerod: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:58] <DaSkreech> velle: Oh yes I guess that would be nsty but then if you have such little interest just read teh archives
[07:58] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: audiocd takes quite a while and does not fully utilize my Cd drive or CPU
[07:58] <DaSkreech> ksaudiocd?
[07:58] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:Linux = dev/hda3/ext2
[07:58] <DaSkreech> londo4: have the forums given any hope yet?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: did you type the commands I gave?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> or copy and paste :)
[07:59] <londo4> no,
[07:59] <velle> DaSkreech: so there is 1) forums for questions, 2) mailing lists and irc for informal chat on background, future, ideas, problems, etc. and 3) launchpad for registering bugs, and tracing them
[07:59] <velle> DaSkreech: right?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> velle: good summary
[08:00] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: I don;t see it in the repositories..
[08:00] <DaSkreech> launchpad can be used for wishlists as well
[08:00] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: try kscd
[08:00] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: okay
[08:00] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: or kaudiocreator
[08:01] <Chris_Swift> !info
[08:01] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[08:01] <DaSkreech> velle: and finally google for frustration :)
[08:01] <Chris_Swift> !commands
[08:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:01] <Chris_Swift> !source
[08:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:01] <eilker> !bum > eilker
[08:02] <Chris_Swift> !OMG
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OMG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <velle> DaSkreech: the thing is that I have some enhancement proposals and bugs, and I dont have the insight or knowledge to help solve them, but I still would like to know the status of my proposal,i.e. i would like to know if somebody actually reads it and acts upon it, so my input doesnt just gather dust
[08:02] <DaSkreech> velle: launchpad
[08:02] <Chris_Swift> Anyone got XUbuntu on Xbox?
[08:03] <Hawkwind> !botabuse | Chris_Swift
[08:03] <ubotu> Chris_Swift: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[08:03] <Hawkwind> Chris_Swift: Might join #Xubuntu for Xubuntu related stuff
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: What kind of source are you looking for?
[08:03] <Chris_Swift> The base Ubuntu code for the OS
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/source/
[08:05] <Chris_Swift> When you think Edgy will be on the site?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Discussing now
[08:05] <Chris_Swift> lol "SOurce CD 1" It's over 2GB
[08:06] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: KAudioCreator has the neat and annoying feature of automagically choosing a place to save it, which is not conveinent when I want each one in a very different place
[08:06] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: brb
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Source is a good deal larger than compiled code
[08:06] <Chris_Swift> Good, a challenge
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Not sure how that is a challenge but go to it
[08:07] <DaSkreech> londo4: I'm still looking
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Blast!
[08:07] <Chris_Swift> lol i thought it said complicatated not compiled
[08:14] <Chris_Swift> Anyone here get problems installing SuSE 10.1 from a normal DVD or the Live DVD for I386?
[08:15] <[cf] nightrid3r> Chris_Swift: nope
[08:15] <Chris_Swift> ok, just my friend and I have the prob then
[08:16] <[cf] nightrid3r> Chris_Swift: beter ask un a suse chan they can help beter
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: They have daily source code as well
[08:18] <Chris_Swift> lol, are you on abput SuSE?
[08:22] <Chris_Swift> SuSE channel is as dead as the dodo
[08:22] <Chris_Swift> so's XUbuntu
[08:22] <DaSkreech> So is this
[08:23] <Chris_Swift> So what are you into then? As I am uterly bored (Spelt Wrong :P)
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Dink: Hmm never thought of that Seems redundant though
[08:24] <Chris_Swift> *Ywn*
[08:25] <Chris_Swift> *Yawn*
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: Join #ubuntu :)
[08:25] <Chris_Swift> DaSkreech: I have
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Ok that's a non sleepy chan :)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Katapult: Hi Love ya!
[08:26] <DaSkreech> no offence sonja-ny
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> Anyone know of any channels where you can passively observe and learn stuff (#debian used to be like that but more and more its full of people not reading the documentation)
[08:28] <Katapult> Im trying to start the game AmericasArmy, but i get this error -> bash: ./armyops: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied. Any one now how to fix this?
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: On edgy ?
[08:28] <Katapult> yes
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> Is it binary only ?
[08:29] <Chris_Swift> Anyone have any ideas bout Wine, opinions etc
[08:29] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: #ubuntu-classroom
[08:29] <crube> !wine
[08:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:29] <DaSkreech> !winbe
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winbe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <DaSkreech> !wine
[08:29] <Chris_Swift> !Winex
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Winex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Chris_Swift> !Cedega
[08:29] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Yes.
[08:29] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: What interesting stuff has been tought there recently
[08:29] <crube> Chris_Swift: I've been pretty happy with it this fat.
[08:29] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Loads of stuff :)
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: strings ./armyops
[08:30] <DaSkreech> They have a schedule check the wiki
[08:30] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: isnt that stuff for beginner ?
[08:30] <crube> Chris_Swift: I just don't need it for anything. I have all the apps I need in Kubuntu.
[08:30] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: i have seen stuff like 'how to use irc' :)
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Not really. they have some higher classes
[08:30] <zorglu_> ok chechink the schedule
[08:31] <Katapult> h3sp4wm: Dident work.
[08:31] <Chris_Swift> DaSkreech: With a normal Laptop's warrenty does changing the OS Break it, somewhere like PC World Warrrent
[08:31] <zorglu_> i could use a course on how to package and setup a repository :)
[08:31] <Chris_Swift> y
[08:31] <zorglu_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[08:31] <Katapult> h3sp4wm: got this message -> echo "Couldn't run America's Army: Operations (armyops-bin). Is ARMYOPS_DATA_PATH set?"
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: read your warranty :)
[08:32] <dimsuz> Hi! I installed nvidia-glx v.9629 from tseliot's repository and it works. Can I get nvidia-glx-dev of the same version somewhere? :) Or is it n/a?
[08:32] <Chris_Swift> zorglu: I wasnt asking "y" added it to then end of my message
[08:32] <Chris_Swift> Havent had it yet, just wondering if you know?
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: What do you mean didn't work there should be some output
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: cat ./armyops (basically is armyops a shell script or not)
[08:33] <Chris_Swift> bye all
[08:33] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Yee, alot of output.
[08:33] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: well the web page shows only very beginner stuff :)
[08:33] <Dink> DaSkreech, that would be the only DVR support I can see the PS3 having
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: But is it like garbled text ? or can it be read ?
[08:34] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: I can read it yes.
[08:34] <gemidjy> what software to use for conversion from MPEG to Avi ?
[08:34] <gemidjy> frontend, need for an enduser
[08:35] <devilredhat> i need someone's help
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: is the first line #!/bin/sh
[08:35] <zorglu_> gemidjy: if you find one, im interested too
[08:35] <devilredhat> why i cant *make* in my shell?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> Dink: Would kind of defeat the purpose of a cheap DVR
[08:35] <devilredhat> did i must setup something?
[08:35] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Yes.
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: change it to #!/bin/bash
[08:35] <DaSkreech> devilredhat: what?
[08:35] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: have you installed build-essential?
[08:35] <LeeJunFan> !build
[08:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:36] <devilredhat> LeeJunFan : not i'm not
[08:36] <devilredhat> how to install?
[08:36] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:36] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: that will install make and gcc compile components, etc..
[08:36] <B-Minus> hello
[08:36] <velle> DaSkreech: can you help me a sec, please?
[08:36] <sonic> Anyone know a chm viewer that will let me print chapters in Duplex?
[08:36] <devilredhat> ok..
[08:36] <devilredhat> let me try :)
[08:37] <B-Minus> does anyone know how to get my laptop smartcard reader to read/Write to a SD card ?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> velle: yes
[08:37] <sonic> ie, use both sides of the page
[08:37] <wow> can someone please look at this problem? it seems to be affecting ubuntu at a very weird filesystem level
[08:37] <wow> http://phpfi.com/177563
[08:37] <wow> if you use ssh, bash, and edgy, i'd look at http://phpfi.com/177563
[08:37] <velle> DaSkreech: i want to comment on a thread, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-November/010369.html, but the i've signed up for the mailing list after the last message, so how do I reply to it
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: Use vi or kate or whatever - if you are using a gui app use kdesu kate ./armyops - otherwise sudo vim ./armyops
[08:37] <LeeJunFan> B-Minus: if your reader worked with linux it would probably pop up a requestor when you plug in a card. It's likely the built in one is not supported.
[08:37] <velle> DaSkreech: just give it title "Re: " concat "Thread name"
[08:37] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: And then run it yes?
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> B-Minus: mine works with SD cards, but not anything else. :(
[08:38] <devilredhat> LeeJunFan : i more..
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: Try it - It may have /bin/sh explicitly in other parts though
[08:38] <devilredhat> i've setup bnc in my shell's but i did'nt know my shell address
[08:38] <devilredhat> how to check it?
[08:38] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Same problem.
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: you mean your IP internet address?
[08:38] <devilredhat> nope
[08:38] <devilredhat> ip to ssh in my shell
[08:40] <zorglu_> wow: the tab completion fails but is the command itself working ? the scp i mean
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> zsh tab completion is alot better than bash's in my experience
[08:40] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: sry, not sure I understand. If you are looking for you local IP address you can run ifconfig in a shell to get that address. The IP will be listed with the device.
[08:41] <devilredhat> oic..
[08:41] <devilredhat> ok i'll try..
[08:41] <DaSkreech> velle: I guess that could work. I'd ask someon who was already in the conversation to forward the mail to me but that might be too much trouble for al linvolved
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> devilredhat: ifconfig $1 | awk '/inet addr/ {printf "%s\n", substr($2,6)}' | grep -v ^127
[08:43] <devilredhat> thanks to all
[08:43] <velle> DaSkreech: thanks, ill just try now
[08:43] <wow> zorglu_: yes, exactly
[08:43] <zorglu_> wow: so the bug is only in the tab completion
[08:43] <wow> zorglu_: it only happens when i tab complete with scp
[08:44] <zorglu_> wow: nothing to do with ssh or the filesystem
[08:45] <ranametal> Helo! Who knows which packages are included in the kubuntu DVD?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> wow: You mean when you tab complete on a section like wow@azeroth.com:/var/accounts/Thrall/info ?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> ranametal: the developers :)
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Hi DjDarkman
[08:46] <DjDarkman> hi DaSkreech
[08:46] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: How goes?
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> ranametal: The whole of main (or it used to be)
[08:47] <LeeJunFan> And I think a good part of universe too.
[08:47] <DjDarkman> does someone know why my souncards numbers keep changing on every system start?
[08:47] <LeeJunFan> all together a mirror for the i386 version main,univ,multi is about 13G
[08:47] <ranametal> ok :)
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> wow: Seriously if you like tab completion zsh tab completes almost everything
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> Its more sensible (at least than bash by default anyway) for example cd <tab> it sensible enough to only tab complete directories
[08:51] <DjDarkman> sometimes my onboard soundcard is hw1.0 ,and sometimes it`s hw0,0 ,it`s changing every time and it`s very bad
[08:51] <overkill22> hi!
[08:51] <overkill22> someone can help me for the streaming viedo?
[08:51] <zorglu_> DjDarkman: leave it free
[08:51] <DjDarkman> zorglu_: don`t undersand what youre trying to say
[08:52] <ruedi> !KGet
[08:52] <zorglu_> DjDarkman: some lame joke, you can safely ignore it
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KGet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <DjDarkman> zorglu_: the problem is that I have problems with that ,because I have two soundcards
[08:52] <DaSkreech> velle: What is your comment btw>
[08:53] <zorglu_> DjDarkman: i dunno the solution sorry
[08:53] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:53] <velle> im writing it now :) ill get back to you, i have a bit of critique, but i want to make sure that no body feels offended :)
[08:53] <marie> has anyone installed kubuntu on a macbookpro?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> velle: Someone will don't worry about it :)
[08:54] <sonja-ny> marie...yes\
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: Maybe you could explicitly make a udev rule (I use this for my network card otherwise they all go wrong) SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", SYSFS{address}=="00:0f:b5:fa:ae:20", NAME="eth2"
[08:55] <marie> is there a guide some where for setting up a dual boot with osx?
[08:55] <marie> I've been trying to find one
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: Have a look at the udev documentation its not that bad
[08:55] <DjDarkman> I`m not an expert at this ,no other easier way around?
[08:56] <BluesKaj> ok gents what do you make of theis message at bootup? . /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: Not that I know its the kernel setting it randomly
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: So udev is the only way I know to fix it
[08:57] <DjDarkman> so it`s the kernel`s fault and not my systems?
[08:57] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Found /sbin/init ?
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> marie: http://trainque.com/blog/2006/10/21/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-osx/
[08:58] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: I'm running in the Live CD right now
[08:59] <DaSkreech> I surmised
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> marie: I just googled --> dual boot ubuntu osx
[08:59] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You couldn't find /sbin/init I guess you fixed that?
[08:59] <marie> I googled but all I could find was tribooting stuff
[08:59] <marie> thanks for the help!
[09:00] <BluesKaj> no i can't find anything
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> marie: well hope it helps :-)
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> l8r folks
[09:00] <marie> well, I don't know if the powerbook is the same as my macbook
[09:01] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: hoe does one become 'root' in the live cd ?
[09:01] <campbch> i'm trying to get LMMS to work, and ive made sure that all of the required sound libraries are installed, but when i open the program the sound crackles constantly? it doesnt play any sounds while it's doing this, just the crackling
[09:01] <BluesKaj> how
[09:01] <campbch> imagine sticking a ruler into a low-speed fan
[09:01] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo su
[09:01] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: sudo does it there too
[09:02] <BluesKaj> ok what's next ..still don't have /sbin/init... DaSkreech
[09:03] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: /sbin/init doens't exist?
[09:03] <confusco> I installed and then uninstalled the official nvidia drivers, then installed nvidia-glx-legacy again, and "nvidia" in xorg.conf now seems to want to use the official nvidia drivers i've unintalled and gives a "file not found" error. how do I make it use the nvidia-glx-legacy, which also I think is supposed to use the word "nvidia"??
[09:03] <BluesKaj> nope
[09:03] <wow> h3sp4wn: uhm, since you're a zsh fanboy, let me start by saying that i think zsh is incredibly bloated. i also run many other distributions, and it seems that only [k] ubuntu has this tab completion problem in conjunction with its SSH client and its bash
[09:03] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What did you do?
[09:03] <wow> DaSkreech: did you look at the posted paste?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> wow: No
[09:04] <h3sp4wn> wow: In the speed tests I did it performed at least as fast as bash in everything I tested
[09:04] <wow> DaSkreech: http://phpfi.com/177563
[09:04] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Before the killing?
[09:04] <ypsila> good evening
[09:04] <ypsila> emonkey: I need your help
[09:04] <BluesKaj> was trying to solve a google earth GUI problem and i followed some instructions on a page i found
[09:04] <DaSkreech> wow: That's what scp tab gives you?
[09:05] <wow> DaSkreech: yes
[09:05] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Give us the page
[09:05] <BluesKaj> lemme look
[09:05] <DaSkreech> wow what is in the folder bug?
[09:05] <darren_> .msg NickServ IDENTIFY Thousand10
[09:05] <zorglu_> :)
[09:05] <wow> DaSkreech: ... please read the paste
[09:05] <wow> DaSkreech: i started with a new folder as you can tell then made three files with touch
[09:06] <zorglu_> darren_: time to change your password, btw konversation allows you to send it automatically which would avoid that to happen again
[09:06] <hyper_ch> !nVidia
[09:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <DaSkreech> wow: Oh didnt see that part
[09:06] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: too late :)
[09:07] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/674910/an/0/page/0
[09:07] <sonja-ny> nnnnnnn justt  /say  it
[09:07] <zorglu_> :)
[09:07] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: the part about installing the xorg driver
[09:08] <DaSkreech> wow: Well I'm on dapper and it's not doing that so yeah it's edgy's bash
[09:08] <cheesypieces> hello there
[09:08] <cheesypieces> anyone free to help?
[09:08] <zorglu_> !anyone
[09:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."   I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?
[09:09] <wow> if anyone here is on bash with OpenSSH's client on Edgy, please follow the instructions here: http://phpfi.com/177563 and see if you can reproduce the error
[09:09] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Wouldnt happen to have thrid party repos would you?
[09:10] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[09:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:10] <cheesypieces> yeah i looked there
[09:10] <cheesypieces> nothing like my problem is listed
[09:10] <BluesKaj> I have some from twosouls
[09:10] <cheesypieces> or in any forums
[09:10] <BluesKaj> I have some from twosouls , DaSkreech
[09:11] <BluesKaj> he was helping me with this problem earlier but had to leave
[09:11] <cheesypieces> any ideas anyone?
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> has anyone in here gottan Swat to successfully work on kuubntu?
[09:12] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Before the rpoblem?
[09:12] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: yes
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: hwat did you have to do?
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: because it will not let me see it on localhost:901
[09:12] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:12] <wow> apt-get it...
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: thats what i did but it doesn't work
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:13] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: did you try lsof to verify if the port really was open?
[09:13] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: try lsof -i 901
[09:13] <Dink> Seveas, please let me back in :)
[09:13] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Not accusing but that seems a lot more like someone hacked your system :(
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: said connection refused on telnet
[09:13] <BluesKaj> we were trying tofix the google earth GUI with a different version but it didn'y fix the prob lem there , so went to the site i just posted and did some of the commands and tried to reboot
[09:14] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: did you try links or a GUI browser?
[09:14] <T3hWiz0rd> gui
[09:14] <wow> then what does telnet have to do with anything?
[09:14] <DaSkreech>  /sbin/init is not a likely candidate to get deleted
[09:14] <wow> either the port is open or it isn't
[09:14] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: checked if 901 was open
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: lsof: unknown protocol name (901) in: -i 901
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> lsof 4.77
[09:15] <wow> is samaba running?
[09:15] <wow> samba*
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: i can see shares on the network so imagine so
[09:15] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: " sudo shutdown -r now" ? looks badddd to me
[09:16] <cheesypieces> ok... I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?
[09:17] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: do a man on shutdown
[09:17] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  "twosouls" is agood guy ...h'e helped me before ...don't think he's a malicious hacker
[09:17] <BluesKaj> how do I do that ?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> type man shutdown
[09:19] <icheyne> in a konsole window :)
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[09:19] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  what good will that do...I'm running on a different version of edgy than the one i want to fix
[09:20] <cheesypieces> how do i get to that?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Oh it will show you that shutdown -r now isn't a bad command
[09:20] <DaSkreech> I run it al lthe time
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Ok that's not true my system almost never goes down
[09:20] <DaSkreech>  but I've done it before
[09:20] <campbch> ok, one last time: I am trying to get LMMS working again. It was working previously, but now it only plays crackling sounds even when there is nothing supposed to be playing. I have reinstalled LMMS and made sure all of my sound packages are installed. I have tried changing the server to OSS, Jack as opposed to ALSA, and it gives static and nothing, respectively. Programs such as Hydrogen, Rosegarden, Kaffeine, Flash, everything else has perfect sound.
[09:21] <DaSkreech> wait. You have an edgy Cd?
[09:21] <campbch> what should i do?
[09:21] <aj_> anyone here ever connect a treo to linux?
[09:21] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[09:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:21] <BluesKaj> so what can we do about htis mess ?
[09:21] <campbch> i think that's everything, that would normally be wrong :(
[09:21] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You have an edgy Cd ?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> What do you mean a different edgy from the one you are fixing?
[09:21] <BluesKaj> yes, I'm on it right now , DaSkreech
[09:22] <ruedi> is there a text-based installer for kubuntu?
[09:22] <campbch> alt cd :o
[09:22] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What do you mean a different edgy from the one you are fixing?
[09:22] <campbch> i think...
[09:22] <DaSkreech> ruedi: the alternative CD is text based
[09:23] <ruedi> ah, ok
[09:23] <BluesKaj> I'm running the live cd ...I'm using it to talk with you , DaSkreech
[09:23] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: how is your edgy install different ?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> ubuntu:  hi
[09:23] <BluesKaj> I'm running the live cd ...I'm using it to talk with you , DaSkreech
[09:24] <cheesypieces> ok, I'll give it one more shot: I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Forget the gui
[09:25] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  the other edgy is on my hard drive as hda3
[09:25] <cheesypieces> ok, how do i do it using the konsol?
[09:25] <cheesypieces> +e
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What encryption are you using ?
[09:25] <cheesypieces> wep, although i've turned it off to get this working
[09:26] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: can You mount it?
[09:26] <DaSkreech> iwconfig I think cheesypieces
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What is the reason to use wep ? It can be cracked in 5 mins
[09:27] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: cause Ubuntu doesn't support wpa ?
[09:27] <cheesypieces> i live in the middle of nowhere, it doesn't really affect me too much
[09:27] <eitch0000> I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Of course it supports wpa
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Perfectly integrated into /etc/network/interfaces
[09:27] <BluesKaj> haven't tried as root DaSkreech
[09:27] <icheyne> DaSkreech, I'm on wpa
[09:27] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: the init script shouldn't change so you should be able to copy the one from of the CD to the hard drive and *cross fingers* have it magically work
[09:28] <cheesypieces> anyway, how do i set this up wihtout the gui?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Hmm set someone up on edgy yesterday and we had to drop from WPA2 to wep
[09:28] <T3hWiz0rd> swat won't work for me :-(
[09:28] <cheesypieces> not really used command lines too much before
[09:28] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech how do I do that
[09:28] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: from the konsole try this
[09:28] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[09:29] <DaSkreech> the tell me if ls drive/ gives you a listing of folders
[09:29] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, done
[09:29] <BluesKaj> now?
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Can your router support wpa ?
[09:30] <cheesypieces> yes it can
[09:30] <BluesKaj> nope
[09:30] <intelikey> why would "gnupg" depend on "libusb-0.1-4"   that makes no sense to me...  ?
[09:30] <cheesypieces> but i want to get the wireless working before i put any encryption on it
[09:30] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok does ls -l drive/sbin/init give you anything?
[09:30] <T3hWiz0rd> how do you restart inetd on kubuntu?
[09:30] <T3hWiz0rd> !samba
[09:30] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:31] <BluesKaj> no such drive or dir
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Its as easy to do it with wpa as anything else (you have to change the whole syntax)
[09:31] <BluesKaj> err file
[09:31] <kevin> hi all
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What network card type do you use ?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok do ls -l /sbin/init
[09:31] <ruedi> how to flood a bot: #kubuntu-test-de
[09:31] <cheesypieces> ok, once i've got the thing to switch on without flicking back off, i'll encrypt it with wpa
[09:32] <DaSkreech> cheesypieces: What chipset is it?
[09:32] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd like any other linux  /etc/init.d/inetd restart   ?
[09:32] <BluesKaj> ls: drive/sbin/init: No such file or directory, DaSkreech
[09:32] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd or networking  ?
[09:32] <scoates> hi again.
[09:32] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: No do /sbin/init this time
[09:33] <cheesypieces> i have a broadcom 4306 card btw
[09:33] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: sudo: /etc/init.d/inetd: command not found
[09:33] <scoates> Xorg just started eating my CPU again, like it does daily. Anyone have any clue how I can diagnose and/org fix this problem?
[09:33] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: try xinetd
[09:33] <BluesKaj> init: illegal runlevel: (null), DaSkreech
[09:33] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[09:33] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok try ls -l /sbin/init
[09:33] <kevin> anyone else has problem while kubuntu starts it says video mode not supported?
[09:34] <DaSkreech> scoates: I normally find it's some app cuasing problems look at the second most CPU intensive X app and try kill that
[09:34] <james> hello i am having trouble ejecting the cd can u help?
[09:34] <DaSkreech> james: try typing eject on the command line
[09:34] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 57696 2006-10-10 10:42 /sbin/init
[09:34] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok are you root?
[09:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:35] <scoates> DaSkreech: nothing else is using any more than 2% cpu at any given time, and it flops from konsole to konversation to amarok
[09:35] <scoates> I can't drag windows around, even
[09:35] <scoates> (well, visibly)
[09:35] <DaSkreech> ok then try cp /sbin/init ~/drive/sbin
[09:35] <james> it is accessing konqueror as a process says umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[09:35] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: swat will not work for me AT ALL
[09:35] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: tell me if it throws an error
[09:36] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: cp: cannot create regular file `/root/drive/sbin': No such file or directory
[09:36] <james> i have tried fuser -k does not work any other suggestions i can manually kill the process w/ kde system guard
[09:36] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj:  ok then try cp /sbin/init drive/sbin
[09:36] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: any ideas as yo why it would switch on then back off?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> scoates: How much memory is X using up?
[09:37] <scoates> ~350MB (35%)
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: I can't help you without more information (and I know nothing of the gui tools)
[09:37] <intelikey> eeek i hate it when things wont die.     tty24 [root@~]  kill -9 759
[09:37] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: it just returns to root , no error message tho:)
[09:37] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  ps -A x | grep fuser
[09:37] <intelikey>   759 tty23    D+     0:00 fuser -k /dev/dsp
[09:37] <DaSkreech> cheesypieces: Have you looked in the forums?
[09:37] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Cross your fingers and reboot
[09:38] <cheesypieces> DaSkreech: yes I have, nothing on there though
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What interface is it using (i.e ath0 / wlan0 / eth1 ?) what chipset
[09:38] <BluesKaj> how can i reboot with crossed fingers? :)
[09:38] <BluesKaj> ok , here goes DaSkreech
[09:38] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: the interface is eth1, and its a broadcom 4306 card
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: And you installed the firmware ?
[09:39] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: yes, and the driver is listed as being there
[09:39] <james> killall konqueror works is that the best way and why does it happen?
[09:39] <scoates> DaSkreech: hmm.. on a whim, I just killed kompmgr and sanity seems to have been restored
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: iwlist eth1 scan
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Does that show the network ?
[09:40] <DaSkreech> scoates: :-) reminds me of this gam_server that went krazy on Ubuntu
[09:40] <DaSkreech> No idea why
[09:40] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: No scan results
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: iwlist eth1 scan
[09:41] <scoates> DaSkreech: well, I can live with killing kompmgr every 12-24h
[09:41] <scoates> just hate killing Xorg
[09:41] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: unrecognised wireless command "up"
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Have you explicitly installed the firmware ?
[09:42] <DaSkreech> scoates: I felt the same way about gam_server
[09:42] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: yes I have, and its showing as a network connection
[09:42] <DaSkreech> hi  tackat
[09:42] <scoates> cool; thanks (-:
[09:42] <cheesypieces> just won't let me enable it
[09:43] <DaSkreech> can the Kubuntu Live cd install into a LVM?
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: http://pastebin.ca/255297
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Try that in /etc/network/interfaces and run ifup eth1
[09:44] <james> hello DaSkreech can you have quick look and tell me if this is the best solution?
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: But the fact its not appearing in the scan makes me think its not installed right
[09:45] <james> killall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0
[09:45] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: do i just paste that into the konsole?
[09:45] <intelikey> well that was different.   kill -9 -1 was = to ye ole hard reset button on the front of the case.....    that's not supposed to happen...
[09:46] <james> or anyone for that matter
[09:46] <intelikey> james i missed the questin ?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> james: You can't eject the CD?
[09:47] <DaSkreech>  It's on teh desktop?
[09:47] <james> i have my system lock up when trying to eject the cd/dvd this is current solution "killall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0"
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: edit /etc/network/interfaces (with any editor) if you need a graphical one run kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[09:47] <DaSkreech> What errors is the command eject giving you?
[09:47] <james> somehow konqueror is being used even though i can not see it
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> (easier if its on one line)
[09:48] <intelikey> james eject the device not the mountpoint.   yeah kioslaves
[09:48] <james> something like device is busy
[09:48] <DaSkreech> james: ah if that's so then killall konqueror would probably work
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> killall never seems to work right for me
[09:48] <DaSkreech> james: sure you don't have any konsole's open where you cded in to the CD?
[09:49] <DaSkreech> that's the most complex question I've asked all week
[09:49] <james> certain
[09:49] <eitch0000> I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[09:49] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: hmm those lines were already there
[09:49] <intelikey> well it's official now.  this kernel is not compatable with fuser   (not a *buntu kernel)
[09:49] <james> killall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0                      works ok
[09:50] <james> but why does konqueror grab on in the first place
[09:50] <DaSkreech> james: cheers!
[09:50] <james> ???
[09:50] <confusco> Somebody help, I uninstalled an nvidia driver and then reinstalled nvidia-glx, and now it's giving me:           dlopen: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so, (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7), FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory, (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA ker
[09:50] <DaSkreech> it's not supposed to. This happens all the time?
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Implies the firmware might be not loaded right
[09:51] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: ok, I'll try it again
[09:51] <cheesypieces> thanks for your help
[09:51] <intelikey> james it's a failed linux attempt at acting like M$  so that if you insert a disk it runs things automatically.  i hate it.   never did like it in M$.  always disabled it there and sure don't want it here.
[09:52] <james> so what is best my solution or ...?
[09:52] <intelikey> but it's "just what everyone wants"
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Generally strange as it may sound ndiswrapper works better with broadcom cards than the native driver (which is reverse engineered)
[09:53] <intelikey> james i don't mess with kde enough to even guess what to do to just disable auto insert notifications  so i'll have to let someone else answer howto fix it.
[09:54] <james> auto insert notifations are already off i am pretty sure
[09:54] <intelikey> setting preferances to not display mounted disks on the desktop might work.
[09:54] <intelikey> idk
[09:55] <james> hmm
[09:58] <james> thanks
[09:58] <Amaranth> intelikey: You made ubotu cry. :(
[09:58] <intelikey> Amaranth well why is there no infonode on automounting ?
[09:59] <Amaranth> !mount
[09:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:59] <Amaranth> ack, that's old
[09:59] <Amaranth> there used to be
[09:59] <DaSkreech> !qtparted
[09:59] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[09:59] <intelikey> nothing to do with that tho
[10:00] <intelikey> not fstab  but the borked CD automounting process
[10:00] <intelikey> and howto turn it off ^
[10:00] <eitch0000> I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[10:01] <h3sp4wn> Almost as useless as the ipv6 factoid which tells you nothing of how to use it only how to disable it
[10:01] <intelikey> yeah and ?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> If anyone sees sabdfl can you just poke me I gotta question for him
[10:02] <intelikey> when the question is "how do you stop it from doing *" the factoid doesnt need to be about how to use.....
[10:03] <intelikey> DaSkreech /msg memoserv help
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> !ipv6
[10:03] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Doh Memoserv
[10:03] <DaSkreech>  /msg memoserv help
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> Just how to disable it nothing about how to use it - If all people want to do is disable it why not disable it by default
[10:04] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yeah i agree with the "by default" idea.  but not everyone does.
[10:04] <intelikey> so why not a factoid for howto use and one for howto disable
[10:05] <intelikey> or both on one wiki page and a factoid that likes there
[10:05] <DaSkreech> tackat: how are you?
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> Definately
[10:05] <intelikey> "likes" hehhe what wasi thinking....
[10:06] <DaSkreech> intelikey: likes is aceptable :)
[10:06] <tackat> DaSkreech: fine
[10:06] <intelikey> links was intended tho
[10:06] <tackat> DaSkreech: currently trying to find out how to retrieve svg flags from Wikipedia best
[10:07] <intelikey> well fuser is hung again.   anyone got a clue what might have been missing im my kernel for fuser to always hang ?
[10:08] <intelikey> i mean it's locked up tight.   root kill -9 wont budge it.
[10:08] <intelikey> ^C  no affect.
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: On dapper ?
[10:09] <intelikey> yep
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> so upstart cannot be blamed - hmmm
[10:09] <intelikey> home grown kernel.
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> what version ?
[10:10] <intelikey> 2.6.15*
[10:10] <DaSkreech> tackat: hacking at knowledge?
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> Can't think of how that could be broken
[10:10] <intelikey> Linux zeos486 <IP_ADDRESS>4 #10 Fri Oct 27 06:57:44 CDT 2006 i586 GNU/Linux
[10:12] <Werzi2001> hi@ll
[10:12] <Werzi2001> i have a strange problem with amarok...
[10:12] <intelikey> well i can't umount /proc either    it seems that fuser is accessing something in /proc/*   what i do not know.
[10:13] <Werzi2001> i can just select folders in /home and /media for my collection :(
[10:13] <wilman> how can i get my macromedia sound to work?
[10:13] <wilman> it worked for one time but then i could not run music
[10:13] <intelikey> !hidden | Werzi2001
[10:13] <ubotu> Werzi2001: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[10:13] <DaSkreech> !hidden | Werzi2001
[10:13] <DaSkreech> Stop it! :( :-p
[10:13] <Werzi2001> ah ok :)
[10:13] <Werzi2001> thx a lot
[10:13] <Werzi2001> bye
[10:13] <intelikey> !flash9 | wilman
[10:13] <ubotu> wilman: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[10:16] <velle> is there a keyboard shortcut for opening the KDE menu?
[10:16] <DaSkreech> Alt=F1
[10:16] <DaSkreech> Alt+F1
[10:17] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Hey!
[10:20] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: ok the edgy partition is recognized , but : "unable to execute //sbin/logd, fr logd: no such file or directory"
[10:20] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: mount the drive and check if it's there
[10:23] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: I'm looking in Q-Parted and the drive is listed as : /dev/hda3 ext2
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Is it supposed to be ext2?
[10:25] <BluesKaj> well, windows is listed as ntfs above it
[10:25] <BluesKaj> should i try to mount it had3 in Q-Parted ?
[10:26] <BluesKaj> err hda
[10:29] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: "mount: can't find dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[10:30] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: do the same thing you did before
[10:30] <DaSkreech>  mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[10:31] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, done
[10:31] <intelikey> if drive exists that will fail   s/&&/;/
[10:31] <apallo> what is the wine command to make it fix the shortcuts?
[10:31] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ls -l drive/sbin/logd
[10:31] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Live CD
[10:31] <DaSkreech> strong likely hood it doesn't
[10:32] <janek> hi guys, pls help me install msttcorefonts, i have pure new edgy and im getting error from sourceforge :(
[10:32] <intelikey> DaSkreech "do the same thing you did before"    i don't know if that was preboot or not.
[10:32] <DaSkreech> intelikey: preboot he just logged in but good observation thanks ;)
[10:32] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  ls: drive/sbin/logd: No such file or directory
[10:33] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ls -l /sbin/logd
[10:33] <DaSkreech> intelikey: something deleted a bunch of executables from BluesKaj /sbin folder
[10:34] <intelikey> DaSkreech forced fsck ?   while mounted will do such things.     bad use of root mixed with file manager     typo with sudo..... ?
[10:35] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: " -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26624 2006-10-10 10:42 /sbin/logd" ... the /sbin/logd is in green in the console
[10:35] <janek> had any1 problems with msttcorefonts ?
[10:35] <BluesKaj> whatever that means
[10:36] <janek> sourceforge timeout
[10:36] <intelikey> DaSkreech package manager go down with it.    check if the executables are missing or whole packages that contain them.    just some thoughts on the issue.   i'll go back to my kernel issue now.
[10:36] <tibone> hi
[10:37] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: can you tell me if ls drive/sbin/logd shows anything?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: ls: drive/sbin/logd: No such file or directory
[10:38] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: can you tell me if ls drive/sbin/ shows anything? Soryr about that
[10:38] <Bubba_Gump> who is deb?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> NP DaSkreech , i appreciate the help and efforts :)
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah But I gotta be running soon so time is short :0
[10:39] <BluesKaj> yeah, looks like i'm gonna have to reinstall , DaSkreech
[10:39] <janek> big problem msttcorefonts package :)
[10:39] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: there is nothing in there>
[10:40] <DaSkreech> !fonts
[10:40] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[10:40] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[10:40] <DaSkreech> janek: ^^^
[10:40] <janek> thanks, but i specify my problem..
[10:41] <janek> i cant instal msttcorefonts package, because sourceforge times me out, in fact its only configuring package its already installed
[10:41] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: there is nothing in the folder?
[10:41] <BluesKaj> no
[10:41] <DaSkreech> janek: Why are you getting it from sourceforge?
[10:41] <velle> is there an anual Kubuntu conference or something?
[10:42] <janek> i'll PM u what i get, i dont want flood here
[10:42] <DaSkreech> janek: Gotta run. I'm sorry
[10:42] <DaSkreech> I'm late as it is
[10:42] <janek> DaSkreech: np bye
[10:42] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, thx
[10:43] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Is there anything in the folder?
[10:43] <DaSkreech> Oh you said no
[10:43] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: no
[10:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[10:43] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ls drive/bin
[10:44] <Cosmonaut3030> Hello.
[10:44] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Anything in there?
[10:44] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  a whole list of stuff there
[10:44] <Cosmonaut3030> I am having trouble with dcop, I am SSHing into my Kubuntu box, and cannot access dcop. is this normal?
[10:45] <BluesKaj> a bunch of stuff in red, DaSkreech
[10:45] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo cp /sbin/* drive/sbin/
[10:45] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo cp -R /sbin/* drive/sbin/
[10:45] <Cosmonaut3030> Is there anyone here who could help me?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[10:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> Oh wiat you did
[10:46] <Cosmonaut3030> Lol.
[10:46] <Cosmonaut3030> Don't worry about it.
[10:46] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: try that and then reboot
[10:46] <DaSkreech> I gotta g
[10:46] <Cosmonaut3030> I am having trouble with dcop, I am SSHing into my Kubuntu box, and cannot access dcop. is this normal?
[10:47] <aseigo> Cosmonaut3030: yes. it's to prevent hijacking of desktop sessions.
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> :(
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> Damn. What am I supposed to do?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, will do , thx
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> Say @
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> Sorry.
[10:48] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Heya :)
[10:48] <aseigo> heya
[10:49] <Cosmonaut3030> Is there any way to set dcop to be usable through SSH?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> janek: you can apt-get install it you know that?
[10:50] <Jucato> aseigo: hi! you're in India right now?
[10:50] <flaccid> Cosmonaut3030: google gives results on it
[10:50] <aseigo> Jucato: as i type, yes =)
[10:50] <Cosmonaut3030> flaccid: Thanks.
[10:50] <Jucato> aseigo: oh nice :)
[10:50] <DaSkreech> janek: you have to install it from multiverse
[10:50] <flaccid> Cosmonaut3030: just set the DISPLAY variable before starting dcop: eg. ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"DISPLAY=:0 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop amarok ..."  <-- thats what it says
[10:50] <DaSkreech> !info msttcorefonts | janek
[10:51] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[10:51] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > janek
[10:52] <aseigo> Jucato: just got in a few hours ago
[10:52] <aseigo> well. 1.5 hours ago
[10:52] <warng> j
[10:52] <janek> DaSkreech: i know im installing via apt them..
[10:52] <Jucato> aseigo: oh. then it's probably just dawn around there right now? (the sun's just rising over here)
[10:53] <aseigo> Jucato: it's 3:30am.
[10:53] <Jucato> aseigo: oh ok. well, don't let me keep you from your shower and your much needed/deserved sleep :)
[10:54] <Jucato> good luck with foss.in :)
[10:54] <janek> DaSkreech: package is installed but then it connects to source forge for some .exe's
[10:54] <aseigo> thanks =)
[10:56] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, success!!!
[11:09] <ryanakca> I ran dpkg --get-selections... it created the file "dpkgselections"... what do I do now with the file?
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: What are you trying to do ?
[11:10] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: oh, about 2 months ago, when I completly whiped my system and reinstalled edgy, I created the file...
[11:10] <ryanakca> I forget what to do now to restore the packages...
[11:10] <Jucato> dpkg --set-selections
[11:11] <ryanakca> I kindof procrastinated?
[11:11] <ryanakca> Jucato: I don't think it's normal for it to run for about 30 minutes and counting?
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> aptitude install can be used with xargs from those lists
[11:11] <Jucato> hmm..
[11:11] <ryanakca> and how does it know what file? you can choose whatever name for the file...
[11:11] <Jucato> if the list was gotten from Dapper, it won't work on Edgy, afaik...
[11:12] <ryanakca> Jucato: no, not from dapper, edgy
[11:12] <Jucato> hm...
[11:12] <ryanakca> I dist-upgraded from dapper early august... aka, 3-4 months ago :)
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: cat dpkgselections | awk '{print $1}' | xargs aptitude install
[11:16] <ryanakca> kk
[11:16] <ryanakca> ty
[11:16] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech ! you There ?
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: wait... '{print $1}'... won't that just print the first collumn?
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: because some apps are to install and others remove...
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: I thought you wanted to put everything back from that file
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/dpkgselections
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: precisely
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> access forbidden
[11:18] <ryanakca> refresh, sorry
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> still forbidden
[11:19] <ryanakca> odd, I 777'd it...
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> If its not the first column with the packagename use $2 or whatever
[11:19] <ryanakca> I can see it fine
[11:19] <ryanakca> no...
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> xargs passes it through to aptitude
[11:20] <ryanakca> hit ctrl-f5 or whatever it is to refresh the cache...
[11:20] <ryanakca> http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/dpkgselection
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: ok
[11:20] <ryanakca> bbl, supper
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: cat dpkgselections | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v deinstall | xargs aptitude install
[11:21] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: any suggestions, /msg if you wish
[11:21] <icheyne> what's the best simple little mp3 player? I just want something to start quickly when I click on a file - not wait ages for amarok. Something like Foobar for Windows.
[11:22] <LjL> icheyne: what about xmms?
[11:22] <icheyne> I use Juk mostly, but something when I click on single mp3s would be good
[11:22] <icheyne> LjL, OK I'll give that a go. Isn't there one called beep? Isn't that better?
[11:22] <LjL> icheyne: beep media player - it uses the Gnome libraries i think. i was suggesting XMMS because i think it only uses GTK and nothing else, so should be relatively fast to start up
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> beep is unmaintained
[11:23] <icheyne> xmms it is
[11:23] <icheyne> thanks guys
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> use moc
[11:23] <icheyne> moc?
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> executable mocp
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> !info moc
[11:23] <ubotu> moc: ncurses based console audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 548 kB
[11:24] <icheyne> h3sp4wn, I've already got it
[11:24] <icheyne> thanks!
[11:37] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: Jucato: found something simpler: One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade".
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: As usual dpkg knows all
[11:38] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: yep...
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> That is the type of stuff it would be useful for ubotu to have
[11:39] <ryanakca> yeah
[11:40] <ryanakca> well, I can alwais submit it to him :)
[11:40] <ryanakca> to it*... doing that now :)
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> I suppose change debian to ubuntu - but then I suppose it constitutes direct plagurism
[11:41] <ryanakca> yeah...
[11:42] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> Its the knowledge though not the software (the software is blootbot)
[11:42] <ryanakca> yeah
[11:44] <rolando> hi
[11:44] <rolando> is there any tool to recover a file i just deleted?
[11:45] <Jucato> not if you deleted it using "rm" or if you emptied the trash can
[11:45] <LjL> !backup | ryanakca, h3sp4wn
[11:45] <ubotu> ryanakca, h3sp4wn: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[11:45] <LjL> !cloning
[11:45] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[11:46] <rolando> but Jucato in windows you can
[11:46] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[11:46] <Jucato> rolando: Linux doesn't use Windows filesystems, right?
[11:46] <teledyn> every time i put a CD/DVD in the drive it automounts it.  how do i prevent this?
[11:46] <ryanakca> LjL: ah, so we have a (almost direct) copy of dpkg's clone factoid
[11:46] <LjL> ryanakca: since 30 seconds, yes
[11:46] <bimberi> !-cloning
[11:46] <ubotu> cloning has no aliases - added by LjL on 2006-11-22 23:45:30
[11:46] <ryanakca> lol
[11:47] <bimberi> :)
[11:47] <Jucato> hm... never knew about the !-factoid command...
[11:47] <Jucato> !-uuid
[11:47] <ubotu> uuid has no aliases - added by Jucato on 2006-10-30 12:22:39
[11:47] <Jucato> yay :P
[11:47] <ryanakca> uuid... isn't that the newfangled thing for fstab because of some messed up motherboards?
[11:48] <Jucato> yeah
[11:48] <ryanakca> I remember it showing up in #kubuntu-devel a long time ago....
[11:48] <FFForever> how can i reenable the root login at the login screen?
[11:48] <LjL> FFForever: don't, it's extremely dangerous.
[11:48] <ryanakca> bbl
[11:48] <FFForever> i know
[11:48] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell FFForever about sudo | FFForever, you have a private message from Ubotu
[11:48] <FFForever> i know about sudo
[11:48] <Jucato> FFForever: read the page before you react
[11:49] <Jucato> it has instructions on what you want
[11:49] <FFForever> i know sudo...., but when i get the login screen i want to login as root
[11:50] <Jucato> FFForever: did you already read that page that was PM'd to you?
[11:50] <FFForever> yeah....
[11:50] <FFForever> i know about what to do and not do in root and how it can kill my system but there are times i just have to login as root to fix things
[11:50] <Jucato> then you should already know that there's a section in that page about Enabling graphical root login
[11:51] <LjL> FFForever, that page also explains what you asked for. read. it.
[11:51] <FFForever> opps i missed that part
[11:51] <FFForever> i kinda skimed it
[11:51] <bobbyd> ih
[11:51] <Jucato> didn't I tell you to read and that it has what you wanted?
[11:51] <bobbyd> what's the standard way to view free disk space in KDE?
[11:51] <FFForever> dose kubuntu come with gdm?
[11:51] <Jucato> FFForever: kdm
[11:51] <mf_debian> df -h
[11:52] <FFForever> errrrr, how can i have kubuntu with gdm?
[11:52] <Jucato> bobbyd: if you want a GUI for it, install filelight
[11:52] <Jucato> FFForever: do you really read?
[11:52] <FFForever> yeah i see where it says to reenable the root login....
[11:52] <mf_debian> Jucato - filelight is really useful, i love that app
[11:52] <Jucato> FFForever: there are instructions for KDE
[11:53] <Jucato> mf_debian: same here. it's just annoying that it crashes on exit. harmless but annoying
[11:53] <FFForever> ok :D, one last question, i was on gentoo :D but now im on a laptop and a source distro is not to nice on a laptop :(, how hard will it be to get wmv's and mp3's to play in firefox/amarok
[11:54] <Xal2> not hard at all
[11:54] <arrautza> hi
[11:54] <Xal2> Well, I use Kaffeine for video.
[11:54] <FFForever> brb :)
[11:54] <d03boy> i just installed dapper on my laptop. I need to get wireless working. where do I start
[11:54] <arrautza> what is canonical suport??
[11:54] <Xal2> libxine-extracodecs is the package you'll need for windows codecs.
[11:54] <bobbyd> mf_debian: there's no GUI tool for viewing free disk space? (filelight is something different, I just wasnt a single figure for each mount)
[11:55] <bobbyd> d03boy: do lspci and see what the hardware is
[11:55] <Xal2> d03boy: if you use WPA, you should use ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant. I didn't have much success with Kubuntu's built in driver.
[11:55] <Jucato> bobbyd: right-click on an empty space, select Properties, and look near the bottom of the dialog box
[11:56] <Jucato> bobbyd: shows where it's mounted, and how much free space is available
[11:56] <bobbyd> Jucato: cool :)
[11:56] <d03boy> i use wep
[11:56] <d03boy> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)
[11:56] <Xal2> Did Kubuntu detect your wireless card?
[11:57] <d03boy> i dont know
[11:57] <FFForever> bk
[11:57] <FFForever> i like totem player
[11:57] <d03boy> totem sucks
[11:57] <FFForever> no
[11:57] <bobbyd> d03boy: look under k->internet->wireless lan assistant
[11:57] <kristyon> anyone using a serial mouse here???
[11:57] <FFForever> is there linva for ubuntu?
[11:58] <nuku> bobbyd: you could also try kdf as some simple kde df replacement
[11:58] <kristyon> what linva?
[11:58] <Xal2> Oh come on, they're just media players.
[11:58] <d03boy> My card does not seem to be detected....
[11:58] <FFForever> linva is a package respority
[11:58] <d03boy> or else its just not working
[11:58] <FFForever> can apt-get install vlc player?
[11:58] <mf_debian> bobbyd - yeah , getting carried away there, nothing that shows the equivalent of a df -h
[11:59] <kristyon> anyone using serial mouse or serial device using m$ protocol??
[11:59] <Jucato> !vlc | FFForever
[11:59] <ubotu> FFForever: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:59] <FFForever> i use a usb wireless mouse
[11:59] <Jucato> ouch wrong one
[11:59] <Xal2> That's what I use, VLC
[11:59] <LjL> !info vlc
[11:59] <Jucato> !info vlc | FFForever
[11:59] <kristyon> ubuntu has bug with mice but cant fix it
[11:59] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[11:59] <Jucato> hehe LjL beat me to it :)
[11:59] <FFForever> can vlc play inside firefox?, lol
[12:00] <LjL> FFForever: think there is a plugin
[12:00] <d03boy> i think so
[12:00] <kristyon> oh dear
[12:00] <FFForever> no?
[12:00] <Xal2> I think it can.
[12:00] <LjL> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[12:00] <ubotu> mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional.  We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[12:01] <kristyon> works great here, and on another 3 systems i know of
[12:01] <d03boy> installing BCM4309 wireless card. how?
[12:02] <FFForever> bcm43xx is EASY with the .18 kernel
[12:02] <FFForever> :D
[12:02] <nathan> what I am after is some of the stuff that it provides... Is there an alternative other than manual install
[12:02] <LjL> !easyubuntu | perhaps
[12:02] <ubotu> perhaps: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:02] <kristyon> easyubuntu
[12:02] <d03boy> well I only have .15
[12:02] <LjL> but manual install isn't that hard
[12:02] <d03boy> because thats what dapper comes with
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: The softmac version of bcm43xx will always suck
[12:02] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[12:03] <FFForever> what kernel dose the new kubuntu come with
[12:03] <FFForever> i have 2hours left on my dl
[12:03] <LjL> FFForever: 2.6.17
[12:03] <Jucato> on Edgy
[12:03] <LjL> he said the *new* kubuntu :)
[12:03] <d03boy> so how do I get teh bcm43xx shit to work on dapper
[12:03] <Xal2> I use ndiswrapper.
[12:03] <FFForever> the newest kernel (or was a few weeks ago) was .18rc5
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> d03boy: best version is the devicescape version in the wireless-dev git repository
[12:04] <d03boy> well that seems too complicated
[12:04] <confusco> d03boy, what have you tried?
[12:04] <LjL> FFForever: you'll never get that in Ubuntu i think. Edgy ships with 2.6.17, and i guess Feisty will ship with 2.6.19
[12:04] <d03boy> i have tried asking about it here
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: 2.6.19-rc6 I think is the newest
[12:04] <Xal2> linux requires some research.
[12:04] <d03boy> ive tried stuff on other distros
[12:04] <FFForever> the .18 kernel makes it really easy :)
[12:04] <d03boy> ndiswrapper has worked for me in the past but I'd like premiscuious mode or whatever
[12:04] <FFForever> just cut the firmware and yeah :)
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> I think its the same on 2.6.17
[12:05] <FFForever> 17 gave me probs
[12:05] <Xal2> uh, premiscuous? lol
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> And there is still the fact that broadcom radio's suck
[12:06] <FFForever> no the raido isnt that bad acctualy
[12:06] <FFForever> i pick up things my M$ cant
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: Compare it to a decent atheros
[12:06] <Xal2> Lol
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: They bleed too much into other channels
[12:06] <confusco> http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/ubtw/bcm43xx-firmware/bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb try this
[12:06] <Xal2> Microsoft makes wireless networking devices?
[12:06] <FFForever> they did
[12:06] <FFForever> my router is made my M$
[12:07] <FFForever> they stoped thoe lol
[12:07] <Xal2> Ah right
[12:07] <Xal2> I have a broadcom in my laptop. The range isn't great.
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: if its an MN-700 you can j-tag it and install openwrt
[12:07] <FFForever> what laptop do u got?
[12:07] <Xal2> Compaq Presario R4000
[12:07] <FFForever> i got a v2000
[12:07] <FFForever> it sucks lol damn amd
[12:08] <Xal2> I've had mine for a year. I'm happy with it.