[07:06] <spdf> newb: Just after POST (the bios messages, and such), it says something about hitting ESC for grub menu, and counts down from 3
[07:07] <Ububegin> nickrud: sweet man... tks
[07:07] <nickrud> Ububegin: yw
[07:07] <newb> spdf: oh yea...i got it that time...so now i know its booting into 2.6.24
[07:07] <newb> spdf: so your saying it should automatically work?
[07:08] <Ububegin> Ububegin: what does yw mean
[07:08] <spdf> newb: according to the instructions it should
[07:08] <nickrud> Ububegin: you're welcome
[07:08] <Ububegin> nickrud : :D
[07:10] <brandon__> singlesun
[07:10] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[07:10] <brandon__> <IP_ADDRESS> this is your ip single sun
[07:10] <newb> spdf: I GOT IT TO WORK!!!! WOW MAN THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!
[07:10] <spdf> newb, :D
[07:11] <newb> spdf: i cant even explain how happy i am right now
[07:11] <spdf> newb, Glad I could find that for you
[07:11] <newb> spdf: this is why i love linux...people helping people
[07:11] <spdf> nickrud: we're on a roll tonight 'eh
[07:11] <newb> spdf: i really appreciate your help man, seriously...
[07:11] <brandon__> spdf, still hasnt solved my problem
[07:11] <brandon__> :P i cant keep it in my pants much longer buddy
[07:11] <spdf> newb, not a problem, thank the person on the forums by clicking the thanks link
[07:11] <newb> spdf: your the reason i came to linux in the first place, people like you...
[07:12] <newb> spdf: already done that!
[07:12] <newb> spdf: quick question, am i going to have to click ESC every time i boot to ensure that it boots into the 2.6.24 kernel?
[07:12] <spdf> newb, good stuff, when you upgrade to Hardy, it'll work for you out of box
[07:12] <newb> spdf: what do you mean upgrade to hardy?
[07:12] <brandon__> is hardy worth getting right now?
[07:12] <spdf> newb, there's an option you can add to grub (if its not already enabled) to savedefault
[07:13] <spdf> newb, hardy, the next version of ubuntu coming out in April
[07:13] <broken__> Yea?
[07:14] <spdf> newb, off the top of my head the line is "default saved"
[07:14] <cmec> can anyone tell me software for designing poster plz
[07:14] <newb> spdf: ahhh ok..how do i add something to GRUB?
[07:14] <soldats> cmec, poster?
[07:14] <newb> spdf: also, how come wicd manager isn't finding any other networks?
[07:15] <soldats> cmec, the gimp or inkscape can create poster size images
[07:16] <spdf> newb, I'm not sure, I don't acutally have a wifi card
[07:16] <spdf> newb: (which, in turn, means I don't use wicd)
[07:17] <spdf> newb, does the network manager find them alright though?
[07:17] <newb> spdf: what do you mean network manager finding them?
[07:17] <spdf> newb, ubuntu's network manager, does it list networks?
[07:18] <spdf> newb, perhaps wicd is setup on the wrong interface, or something. I'm not really sure to be honest
[07:18] <newb> spdf, the administration>network
[07:18] <newb> is that what you mean?
[07:19] <bod_> Hey guys i have a problem,.,. i installed a package called backuppc and now i want to remove it but i cant,. synaptic says :E: backuppc: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2   and if i try to sudo aptitude purge backuppc  i get an error,.,.,. how do i remove an unremoveable package?
[07:20] <spdf> bod_: Hmm.. Are you running another instance of synaptic/apt/dpkg?
[07:21] <bod_> spdf, no its not that error,. it seems it cant remove backuppc because backuppc itself is corrupt maybe,. il try installing it and configuring it again and try removing it after that
[07:22] <hypnus9> Hi room. I'm trying to set up phpmyadmin on Ubuntu Gutsy SE, and I can't figure out how to get into it to set the root passwords. Can someone help?
[07:22] <bod_> spdf, i reinstalled the package and then synaptic removed it,.,. weird ,. it was like because i didnt configure it properly it wouldnt remove itself,.,.,.these programs are getting smarter,. soon we wont be able to remove them,.,.lol,.,. cheers
[07:22] <DRebellion> hmmm... this is odd... if i set 640x480 in /etc/usplash.conf, it shows the splash screen at shutdown, but my monitor still tells me it can't display this video mode at startup :/
[07:23] <newb> where for the wireless would i see other networks?
[07:23] <spdf> hypnus9: There's a mysql-secure-installation or something along those lines that'll walk you through that
[07:24] <hypnus9> ok
[07:24] <spdf> newb: try "iwlist eth1 scanning", I believe. I don't have much experience with wifi stuff though
[07:25] <DRebellion> newb: spdf: that needs to be root to initiate a new scan
[07:25] <spdf> newb, sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[07:26] <jay-oh-en> how do i rip a dvd
[07:26] <spdf> jay-oh-en: I use dvd::rip
[07:26] <jay-oh-en> spdf, whats that file name in repos
[07:27] <spdf> jay-oh-en: dvdrip, in multiverse
[07:27] <newb> awesome....you got it again
[07:27] <newb> thanks guys!
[07:27] <spdf> newb: Enjoy
[07:28] <spdf> jay-oh-en: You'll need the libdvdcss stuff, so you should get playback working if you haven't already
[07:28] <luddite> soldats: thanks mate. ill look into one- should only take a minute to write
[07:28] <jay-oh-en> spdf, is it a command line ripper
[07:28] <spdf> jay-oh-en: Nope, gui
[07:29] <spdf> jay-oh-en: It works really well, I just finished ripping 11 seasons of MASH with it :D
[07:29] <hypnus9> !phpmyadmin
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <Ademan> (sorry got disconnected) anyone have any thoughts or experiences regarding inetd vs xinetd?
[07:30] <spdf> jay-oh-en: There's a cluster option, which in theory can be used to job control on a single machine. However, it has some a/v sync issues.
[07:30] <Link> hello to all
[07:30] <hypnus9> !mysql
[07:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:31] <LL00> salut
[07:31] <Link> i have a Qtek 9100 pocketpc, but ubuntu is not seeing it on the usb
[07:31] <Link> why?
[07:31] <newb> spdf: thanks for all of your help!
[07:31] <hypnus9> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHPhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:31] <LL00> pourquoi c'est devenu un truc de fou pour installer flash plugin pour firefox
[07:31] <spdf> !fr
[07:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:32] <spdf> LL00: Anglais, There's an issue with the way Adobe is packaging the flash plugin. There are fixes available however
[07:32] <LL00> where are the fixes for ubuntu ? :p
[07:33] <spdf> LL00: lol, one sec, I'll get you a link
[07:33] <LL00> et puis pourquoi
[07:33] <LL00> ubuntu a modifie le package
[07:33] <LL00> il suffisait des garder l'ancien
[07:33] <speeddemon8803> !fr | LL00
[07:33] <ubotu> LL00: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:34] <LL00> oups
[07:34] <LL00> lol
[07:34] <LL00> sorry
[07:34] <LL00> I though I was on -fr chan
[07:34] <LL00> I didn't notice I was in english chan
[07:34] <spdf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[07:34] <speeddemon8803> Thats ok, just a gentle reminder :)
[07:34] <spdf> !FlashIssues | LL00
[07:34] <ubotu> LL00: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:34] <LL00> I thought spdf kiding me speaking english
[07:35] <LL00> so why ubuntu mainteners changed the package?
[07:35] <LL00> the previous one was fine
[07:35] <spdf> Adobe changed their package, which broke our package
[07:36] <codename> im having troubles with flash in 7.10
[07:36] <LL00> there are no maintener from ubuntu?
[07:37] <spdf> !FlashIssues | codename
[07:37] <ubotu> codename: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:37] <LL00> or rollback to previous version
[07:38] <ShinmaIdoru> is there a package for Compiz Fusion 0.6.0 yet?
[07:39] <spdf> LL00: The package itself grabs the newest adobe package, because it cannot be distributed within the deb package. So, since the downloaded tar file is different, the package fails.
[07:42] <julio> Hello folks
[07:42] <julio> I'm with a little problem hire
[07:42] <julio> i'm trying to convert flv files do mpg or avi, but when i did  it the converted movie was quick and without sound (mute)
[07:44] <shaark> i'm having problems trying to hibernate in gutsy any tips on which logs to check ?
[07:45] <ShinmaIdoru> syslog or messages i think
[07:45] <ShinmaIdoru> in /var/log
[07:46] <drgeb> what is the highest format you can ripp an audio cd in ? is this cdda.raw??
[07:47] <julio> I used ffmpeg
[07:47] <unagi> how do i view running processes from the console
[07:48] <gregorovius> unagi, ps -A
[07:48] <spdf> unagi: ps aux
[07:48] <unagi> ps aus and ps -A is the same thing?
[07:49] <spdf> unagi: ps aux gives you a bit more information
[07:49] <gregorovius> try them both
[07:50] <unagi> when i have X trying to load and it is telling me that there is already an X session running, what is the process to killall to stop it
[07:50] <gregorovius> 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' is the proper way, I think
[07:50] <Salaman> !syscp
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syscp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <shaark> what should I look for in the syslog I don't see any error messages after unsuccessfully hibernating
[07:51] <idefix> ok listen up guys, how can an e-mail be sent to me with my e-mailaddress as sender?
[07:51] <ShinmaIdoru> is there a package for Compiz Fusion 0.6.0 yet?
[07:51] <ShinmaIdoru> it's just a spoof
[07:52] <ShinmaIdoru> idefix, typical spam tactic so you say "wtf??" and look at it
[07:52] <neeto> where do I extract a codec pack
[07:52] <Ububegin> if i need to install Apache Httpd , which one should i choose from synaptic package manger....
[07:52] <neeto> ^for mplayer
[07:52] <Ububegin> apache2-mpm-event | apache2-mpm-prefork | apache2-mpm-worker ...... is the prefork the default one.... or is the event ... :?
[07:53] <idefix> ShinmaIdoru, but how is it technically possible?
[07:54] <spdf> idefix: Because the "sender" email address is just the replyto thats set
[07:54] <ShinmaIdoru> mail servers are dumb, you tell it who you are (sender), so the spoof is just telling it the person sending it is your email address rather than the real sender
[07:54] <idefix> ic
[07:54] <spdf> idefix: The headers tell a different story however
[07:54] <ShinmaIdoru> its not a big deal
[07:54] <B3cc0> !list
[07:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:55] <ShinmaIdoru> !help
[07:55] <Doctor-Who> Commands: last, seen, total, random, user, userlist, uptime, lastchan, joinpart, count, countwords
[07:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:56] <idefix> what could be wrong with adding a girl to your MSN when offered? is that a spam tactic too?
[07:56] <spdf> idefix: More often than not, yes.
[07:56] <spdf> idefix: If not spam, than some random trojan that'll only effect windows users..
[07:56] <speeddemon8803> People are not always who they say on the internet..i could be 90 and fat old dude...or 20 and skinny hot chick...do you really know? nope
[07:57] <benoit_> azeae   lqaaddadadadada
[07:57] <idefix> oh man, 90, the horror
[07:57] <ShinmaIdoru> idefix, not to be rude, but it seems strange you're in a linux chat without knowing some of those types of info
[07:57] <ShinmaIdoru> i guess im just surprised is all
[07:57] <spdf> ShinmaIdoru: Everyone starts off somewhere..
[07:57] <benoit_> azezae
[07:57] <benoit_> azsqssqdddeeaa
[07:57] <ShinmaIdoru> yeah not trying to be insulting at all, just surprised.. typically linux chat is for more advanced users
[07:58] <benoit_> qqqaaa
[07:58] <benoit_> dddsqdsqdfffggg
[07:58] <spdf> benoit_: Er?
[07:58] <speeddemon8803> Benoit_ please quit.
[07:58] <yao_ziyuan> my host os is windows xp. i want to install a free/open-source virtual machine manager and then install Ubuntu in it, on A REAL DISK PARTITION, so that i can both run it as a virtual machine and as a dual-bootable independent os. so QEMU and VBOX, which should i choose?
[07:58] <idefix> I'm a wannabe nerd, ok?
[07:58] <speeddemon8803> Do you have a question for us or are you just going to flood the room with random garbage benoit_?
[07:59] <speeddemon8803> lol wannabe nerds are cool too :)
[07:59] <ShinmaIdoru> idefix, no worries bud ;)
[07:59]  * amidaniel has the feelings a cat is typing on benoit_'s keyboard :)
[07:59] <speeddemon8803> or their smashing their fist on the keyboard
[07:59] <speeddemon8803> because somethings not working right
[08:00] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: I've heard of doing that the other way around, with linux running windows in vmplayer
[08:00] <yao_ziyuan> spdf: but vmware is not free
[08:00] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: vmplayer is
[08:01] <LL00> yes it's free the vmware server
[08:01] <bezibaerchen> spdf: server too :-)
[08:01] <ShinmaIdoru> doesnt VirtualBox have this functionality? or does it try and convert the partition to an image?
[08:01] <yao_ziyuan> spdf: vmplayer can create a virtual machine?
[08:01] <LL00> vmware server yes
[08:01] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: http://oopsilon.com/Running-a-Windows-Partition-in-VMware
[08:01] <bezibaerchen> yao_ziyuan: nope, but u can create with server and open it with player
[08:01] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: check that out, its the other way around, but it may give you some ideas
[08:03] <xivanari> hey i have a question about external hard drives.  Can someone with some experience in this area give me a hand?
[08:04] <xivanari> is anyone here?
[08:05] <xivanari> of the 1113 users it says are online :)
[08:05] <astro76> !ask
[08:05] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:05] <bod_> !anyone
[08:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:05] <spdf> xivanari: USB?
[08:05] <xivanari> yea
[08:05] <xivanari> its mounting
[08:05] <spdf> xivanari: NTFS?
[08:05] <xivanari> but i have no write privelages
[08:06] <xivanari> no i formatted it to ext3
[08:06] <spdf> xivanari: Ahh, you'll probably need to change the mount permissions then
[08:06] <xivanari> how do i do that
[08:06] <xivanari> i dont know how to get root permissions
[08:06] <cvd> su
[08:06] <bod_> sudo
[08:06] <xivanari> ok
[08:07] <xivanari> but i dont know how to change the mount permissions in the CLI
[08:07] <ssf> 有中国人没？
[08:07] <spdf> xivanari: You'll need to edit/add a line to /etc/fstab
[08:07] <bod_> xivanari, suo chmod 777 /name/of/something
[08:07] <xivanari> ok
[08:07] <bod_> sup =sudo
[08:08] <xivanari> what is the cli code for accessing /etc/fstab
[08:08] <spdf> xivanari: you can do gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:08] <bod_> xivanari, note 777 is full permissions,. 755 or 775 is better
[08:08] <xivanari> okay
[08:08] <spdf> bod_: Except, that'll only have an effect on files already on the disk, it doesn't change how permissions are setup on mount
[08:09] <xivanari> what do i edit in this file now
[08:09] <spdf> xivanari: Can you put the contents of that onto a pastebin?
[08:09] <spdf> !pastebin
[08:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:09] <xivanari> ya sure
[08:09] <bod_> spdf, gd point,. just letting him no how to chnage permissions in general,.ty
[08:10] <xivanari> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54019/
[08:10] <xivanari> they changed pastebin
[08:10] <xivanari> io like it better now
[08:10] <xivanari> its easier
[08:10] <xivanari> ^.^
[08:10] <bod_> !enter
[08:10] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:10] <shaark> i just lost my titlebar on all my windows what could be wrong?
[08:11] <bod_> shaark, compiz,. restart it
[08:11] <shaark> how do I restart compiz?
[08:11] <bod_> gd question hang on
[08:12] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to see size of a folder in the terminal? how many kb it's taking up
[08:12] <astro76> Flynsarmy: du -sh
[08:12] <bod_> shaark, trpe    compiz -help    i no this sounds weird but it restarted mine
[08:12] <spdf> shaark: its metacity that has crashed, not compiz. You can run 'metacity --replace &' from the commandline
[08:12] <xivanari> spdf: you get that link?
[08:12] <spdf> xivanari: Yep, one sec
[08:13] <bod_> shaark, listen to spdf
[08:13] <tparcina> asterisk, from which repository should I install it? (Ubuntu 7.10 server)
[08:13] <shaark> ok it worked although the titlbar is different from the one I customized before
[08:13] <astro76> !info asterisk | tparcina
[08:13] <ubotu> tparcina: asterisk (source: asterisk): Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.10~dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 2033 kB, installed size 5264 kB
[08:13] <Ububegin> I just installed apache2-mpm-prefork from ubuntu synaptic manager ... i want to start apache2...
[08:13] <bod_> shaark, that'll reset if you restart x
[08:13] <spdf> shaark: Hmm.. Were you using emerald or some other replacement?
[08:13] <Ububegin> how do i use ubuntu and find such a folder path exists or not.. "apache2/bin"
[08:14] <shaark> yeah I think it was emerald
[08:14] <spdf> shaark: Ahh, then emerald --replace &
[08:14] <spdf> shaark: if emerald wont start, you might have to remove the ~/.emerald/ folder
[08:14] <bod_> shaark, make sure you put the & there
[08:15] <spdf> shaark: I've had that happen before with emerald
[08:15] <bod_> spdf, thats more complication then needed,. emerald is sub controled by compiz,.,. compiz -  will sort it
[08:15] <tparcina> astro76: universe repository isn't in sources.list by deafult. I should add it manualy?
[08:15] <ssf> 请问这有中国人吗？
[08:15] <bod_> !chinese
[08:15] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:15] <astro76> tparcina: yeah, it's probably commented out
[08:16] <ssf> 哦，我进错频道了吗？我是第一次用这个的，怎么换频道呢？
[08:16] <bod_> !chinese | ssf
[08:16] <ubotu> ssf: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:17] <xivanari> spdf: any luck yet?
[08:17] <ssf>  #ubuntu-cn
[08:17] <ssf>  #ubuntu-tw
[08:17] <ssf> ......
[08:18] <bod_> ssf,  type /j #ubuntu-cn
[08:18] <danielax> ssf: /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:18] <ssf> O~ thinks
[08:18] <bod_> ssf, no prob
[08:18] <bod_> bye
[08:18] <shaark> well emerald didn't start still using metacity
[08:19] <gregorovius> that was kinda funny
[08:19] <gregorovius> not funny haha
[08:19] <bod_> shaark, do this     compiz -
[08:19] <kahrytan> shaark➲  the only reason to use emerald is for transparency
[08:19] <shaark> i like transparency
[08:19] <shaark> :)
[08:20] <kahrytan> shaark➲  then use vista :-P
[08:20] <bod_> kahrytan, ouch!!
[08:20] <shaark> lol thats what I dual boot from
[08:20] <spdf> xivanari: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54019/ - Okay, I added a line in there, thats similar to what you want. You want to chagne /dev/sdb1 to whatever the device is, and create a directory in media 'sudo mkdir /media/storage'
[08:20] <spdf> brb.. irssi is hating me right now
[08:20] <kahrytan> shaark➲  now thats ironic
[08:20] <xivanari> okay
[08:20] <bod_> shaark, just do   compiz -      that'll srt you out,.,.or restart x by  ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:21] <shaark> well I like to show off the compiz stuff on my laptop
[08:21] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[08:21] <bod_> im off guys
[08:21] <bod_> be back in an hour or 2
[08:21] <kahrytan> shaark➲ I hate transparency .. can never tell if window is selected or not
[08:21] <bod_> bye
[08:21] <LL00> about the flash plugin, the link to donwload the .deb need to login into forum?
[08:21] <LL00> !flash
[08:21] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[08:22] <shaark> well the titlebar is changing color for me for the active window
[08:22] <xivanari> umm spdf it doesnt look like anything is changed in that file
[08:22] <shaark> and its transparent too
[08:22] <goodhabit> Hello. I'm trying to setup NFS share. I have added needed ip's, but mounts  failed, reason given by server: Permission denied.
[08:22] <goodhabit> I am used gui for sharing.
[08:22] <kahrytan> shaark➲ I dont even use compiz though. I like keep the system as fast as possible on this slower computer
[08:22] <KemrinH> Have you tried Sudo?
[08:22] <KemrinH> *sudo chown
[08:23] <goodhabit> What user I must setup with chown?
[08:23] <spdf> xivanari: Hmm, I added to the bottom and hit save..
[08:23] <spdf> xivanari: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54020/
[08:23] <spdf> xivanari: There we go. I'm a tard.
[08:23] <xivanari> spdf: im lookiing at an earlier version, and the later version, and they are the exact same
[08:23] <KemrinH> I would guess the active one
[08:23] <shaark> kahrytan: yeah I have a good video card so I can run it fine
[08:23] <xivanari> there we go
[08:23] <xivanari> XD
[08:23] <kahrytan> shaark➲  fx5200.
[08:23] <xivanari> thanks so much man
[08:24] <kahrytan> shaark➲ i like to use as lil cpu as possible
[08:24] <KemrinH> The one your using. Though I don't know much about NFS sharing. Just letting you know where I would start if I were you :)
[08:24] <spdf> xivanari: Like I said, edit the /dev/sdb1 to whatever it should be
[08:24] <xivanari> spdf: how do i know what it shouild be?
[08:24] <shaark> well its supposed to be accelerated by the video card isn't it? shouldn't affect cpu
[08:24] <Hemebond> Anyone got Beryl installed?
[08:24] <spdf> xivanari: when you plug the drive in check dmesg
[08:24] <xivanari> spdf: im really ubuntu noob, thanks so so so much for helpiong me out man
[08:24] <KemrinH> I have Compiz, which is like Beryl
[08:25] <shaark> didn't compiz and beryl merge anyways?
[08:25] <DEXTREX> Hello, I've just intalled ubuntu and having trouble with the sound. I used a tutorial to see if the computer recognizes the sound card and it does but the drivers to not seem to be running or working. I cant seem to find the correct driver for Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02).
[08:25] <Hemebond> I need someone with Beryl installed.
[08:25] <KemrinH> Yeah, that's why their so similar
[08:25] <xivanari> whoa ok where in dmesg do i look spdf?
[08:25] <KemrinH> I had beryl installed until 7.10 was released.
[08:26] <kahrytan> shaark➲  but it does
[08:26] <spdf> xivanari: whatever you just did will be at the bottom of what prints
[08:26] <spdf> xivanari: Some stuff about USB and what not
[08:26] <xivanari> ok
[08:26] <xivanari> yeya gotcha
[08:26] <xivanari> [168663.628000] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal
[08:26] <xivanari> [168663.628000] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[08:27] <spdf> xivanari: It is sdb1 after all
[08:27] <xivanari> hhaha excellent
[08:27] <xivanari> ok so now what
[08:27] <spdf> xivanari: If you added that line to fstab, and created the directory, then it should be mounted to /media/storage
[08:27] <cpk1> how do you make it so kdm doesnt start on boot? you need to change something in one of the rcX.d folders right?
[08:27] <xivanari> ok /media /storage doesnt exist
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: 'sudo mkdir /media/storage'
[08:28] <xivanari> ohyer
[08:28] <xivanari> ok
[08:28] <danielax> ck3k: yeah - /etc/rcX.d/S??kdm
[08:28] <xivanari> it didnt prompt for a password or anything
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: 'sudo umount /dev/sdb1'
[08:28] <eric_> I know this is a windows based question but its just slipped my mind and usually i know the answer but can one dual boot two windows os's off the same partition?
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: It saves your sudo information for 15mins by default
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: or 5mins, I don't recall.
[08:28] <xivanari> ok
[08:29] <danielax> rename it to something other than S?? (but not K?? :)
[08:29] <xivanari> umount
[08:29] <eric_> Granted they have different default folders /win/  /progfiles/ /users/ etc....
[08:29] <xivanari> not unmount?
[08:29] <danielax> eric_: sure can
[08:29] <spdf> xivanari: Yep, umount
[08:29] <danielax> eric_: no hang on
[08:29] <xivanari> okay, than what next, do i remount it?
[08:29] <spdf> xivanari: Now, 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1'
[08:29] <xivanari> ok
[08:29] <xivanari> and then it works
[08:29] <eric_> danielax: ok thanks lots i feel moronic having this slipped my mind...
[08:29] <spdf> xivanari: As long as there's no errors, it should atually show up on your desktop as "storage", and in your Places menu
[08:30] <xivanari> ahh
[08:30] <xivanari> i just got this "Error while copying to "/media/storage" " You do not have permissions to write to this folder
[08:30] <eric_> danielax: i want to install my modded xp lite that uses a weird set of foldernames along side of a vista lite in my ntfs drive and install my ubuntu back overtop it all in my ext3
[08:30] <xivanari> which is the error i have been getting since the beginning :(
[08:30] <spdf> xivanari: lol, no worries
[08:31] <eric_> danielax: with my many swap partitions and gig o ram lol
[08:31] <spdf> xivanari: Just a quick edit
[08:31] <xivanari> oh okay ^.^
[08:31] <spdf> xivanari: er, unmount it, and then do mount /dev/sdb1 (without sudo)
[08:31] <xivanari> ok done
[08:32] <xivanari> same errror message
[08:32] <xivanari> i did sudo umount /dev/sdb1 and then mount /dev/sdb1
[08:32] <spdf> xivanari: One sec, just getting right fstab option
[08:32] <xivanari> okay
[08:34] <danielax_> *sigh* crashy net connection
[08:34] <cpk1> danielax: that made no sense... I found it though, its in runlevel 4
[08:34] <danielax_> odd - what's the output of runlevel usually
[08:35] <spdf> xivanari: after rw, add ",umask=077,gid=users" (no quotes)
[08:35] <alanbshepard70> Has anyone here been able to get the latest version of itunes to run under wine?
[08:36] <eric_> danielax thats ok i suppose i could just give it a go.
[08:36] <xivanari> after the 0s?
[08:36] <eric_> danielax and see how well i fair.
[08:36] <danielax_> eric_: really i'm not sure - I thought the question was different
[08:36] <spdf> xivanari: it should read "rw,umask=077,gid=users"
[08:36] <danielax_> eric_: best of luck anyway :)
[08:36] <eric_> hehe
[08:36] <xivanari> ok awesome
[08:37] <eric_> Heres hopin i didnt waste my last couple hours of my life configging my xp
[08:37] <cpk1> danielax_: actually i can find a kdm in my fiesty install but on my gutsy install I cant find it, so back to my question =P
[08:37] <SlimG> I'm running Konqueror 3.5.8 @ Kubuntu 7.10 , and when I try to turn on "cookies" I'm told that this cannot be done because the cookiedaemon isn't running? how do i fix that?
[08:38] <danielax_> food time :) gtg all!
[08:38] <unagi> when i have X trying to load and it is telling me that there is already an X session running, what is the process to killall to stop it
[08:38] <xivanari> uh oh
[08:38] <danielax_> SlimG: start cookiedaemon ? :P
[08:38] <kahrytan> Daniel^➲  so late?
[08:38] <spdf> xivanari: uh oh?
[08:38] <xivanari> spdf: i got an error message when i tried to remount it
[08:38] <spdf> xivanari: Pastebin the new fstab
[08:39] <cpk1> hmm runlevel 3 and 4 have kdm...
[08:39] <xirdneh> hi there. someone help with grub problem error 17
[08:40] <xivanari> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54023/
[08:40] <xivanari> spdf:
[08:40] <spdf> xivanari: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54024/
[08:41] <xivanari> whats the difference?
[08:41] <xivanari> oh the 0s
[08:41] <idefix> it IS a bad idea to actually buy and use viagra, right?
[08:41] <spdf> xivanari: and the s on users
[08:41] <xivanari> nice
[08:42] <xirdneh> noone?
[08:42] <xivanari> got the same error again spdf
[08:42] <spdf> xivanari: Hmm.. i'm thinking that 'users' isn't actually a default group.. one sec
[08:42] <spdf> xivanari: do ls -l /media/  .. is storage in the users group?
[08:43] <SlimG> I'm running Konqueror 3.5.8 @ Kubuntu 7.10 , and when I try to turn on "cookies" I'm told that this cannot be done because the cookiedaemon isn't running? how do i fix that?
[08:43] <xivanari> there is no users group
[08:43] <xivanari> that i can see
[08:43] <xivanari> everything is in Root but my ipod
[08:43] <spdf> xivanari: so its "root root"
[08:43] <xivanari> yep
[08:44] <spdf> xivanari: You chould change umask=077 to umask=000
[08:44] <xivanari> same error
[08:44] <spdf> xivanari: remoounted?
[08:45] <xivanari> nope
[08:45] <xivanari> wrong fs type
[08:45] <spdf> xivanari: Aight.. remove the umask and gid stuff
[08:46] <xivanari> done
[08:46] <spdf> xivanari: Mounts now, at least?
[08:46] <xivanari> yes
[08:47] <xivanari> still no write permissions tho
[08:47] <spdf> xivanari: sudo chmod 777 /media/storage
[08:48] <xivanari> ok
[08:48] <xivanari> its working now
[08:48] <xivanari> XD
[08:48] <xivanari> isnt that whjat bod said to do in the beginning
[08:48] <xivanari> lmfao
[08:48] <spdf> xivanari: I'm so used to getting ntfs drives working lol
[08:48] <xivanari> lmfao
[08:48] <xivanari> this isnt ntfs
[08:48] <xivanari> this is ext
[08:48] <spdf> xivanari: Sorry.. he was right, I'm getting tired apparently
[08:48] <xivanari> naw man its ok
[08:48] <xivanari> im high off my nut
[08:49] <xivanari> so yknow im having trouble with everything atm.
[08:50] <xMS_user> do i have ti reinstall the kernel to get dual processor out of a single processor system that was upgraded?
[08:51] <spdf> xMS_user: I'm pretty sure the kernels are built to handle either situation now
[08:51] <stdin> xMS_user: no, it should Just Work
[08:52] <xivanari> spdf:  thanks so much again man fgor helping me get this working
[08:52] <phuzion> How do I update to the newest drivers for an nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS with 3d support so I can play games?
[08:52] <xivanari> i really appreciate it.
[08:52] <spdf> xivanari: No worries, at least we got through the fstab stuff, so it'll just be there and working when you boot
[08:52] <shaark> phuzion:use envy
[08:52] <phuzion> !envy
[08:52] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[08:52] <stdin> !envy | don't use it
[08:52] <ubotu> don't use it: please see above
[08:52] <stdin> dang :p
[08:52] <spdf> phuzion: Or, use the restricted manager.
[08:53] <onats> hello, is the hibernate/suspend supported already ?
[08:53] <spdf> onats: depends on the system really, some have no problem with it, others do
[08:53] <shaark> onats: i'm having problems with hibernating something to do with ATI drivers
[08:54] <xMS_user> spdf: stdin: i was trying to fix my boot and reisntalled the kernel and now lost my dual processor ability
[08:54] <onats> spdf, i'm on a toshiba notebook, still can't get it to work properly, and on my dad's vaio
[08:54] <stdin> xMS_user: if you have one of the -generic kernels then it's built in and detected at boot
[08:54] <spdf> the 'linux-generic' package should get you the latest
[08:55] <spdf> onats: I'm not familiar enough with ubuntu on laptops to help you with that, to be honest
[08:56] <shaark> onats: which video card do they have?
[08:56] <xMS_user>  spdf: stdin: so there is another reason y i lost the other cpu? what command would confirm my core2duo is seen by the os?
[08:56] <onats> shaark, my toshiba has an intel945GM
[08:56] <onats> not sure with the vaio
[08:57] <spdf> xMS_user: sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:57] <stdin> xMS_user: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" should show more than one CPU
[08:57] <stdin> no need for sudo
[08:58] <shaark> onats: check the hibernate.log and syslog
[08:58] <onats> shaark, and? what should i look for?
[08:58] <xMS_user> spdf: stdin: >:o i am soo pissed i just want to do the whole OS all over again!
[08:59] <xMS_user> btw, i only see one
[08:59] <shaark> any error messages
[08:59] <shaark> does it actually hang when u try to hibernate?
[09:00] <phuzion> Hmm, I'm apparently using the restricted drivers, anyone know why Counter Strike runs at < 1 fps?
[09:01] <phuzion> CS Source
[09:01] <hellotherehere> hi, how do i increase the swap by taking space from the main hard drive?
[09:03] <xMS_user> spdf: stdin: please don't leave me!
[09:04] <idefix> is it possible to record a macro?
[09:04] <idefix> in linux? using any program merely based on whatever your mouse does?
[09:04] <spdf> xMS_user: Not gone, lol. What did cpuinfo tell you?
[09:05] <unagi_> anyone here happen to use kde or knetworkmanager..............how do you refresh the network list
[09:05] <phuzion> idefix, what are you looking to do, its likely that whatever you want to do can be done with a script more easliy
[09:05] <idefix> it's just repeating actions
[09:06] <idefix> phuzion, so how?
[09:07] <phuzion> idefix, well, what programs are you using in your macro?
[09:07] <idefix> gimp
[09:07] <xMS_user> spdf: i only see processor 0, this all happend because i spent (wasted) my money on an intel MB that said it had RAID but ubuntu live or alt do not see the raid partition. so i followed some weird tutorial online about installing ubuntu on raid0 but now i need the cd to boot and lost my dual core
[09:07] <phuzion> Hmm, what exactly are you doing with the images?
[09:07] <spdf> xMS_user: So, you'er booting from the cd?
[09:08] <idefix> phuzion, there's no macro recording option in gimp, so my question is how do you record a macro in linux in general?
[09:08] <xMS_user> spdf: i can oly boot from the cd and then choose to boot from the hd. with no cd i get grub error 15, so i use the cd
[09:08] <idefix> I have to do the same to about 40 pictures, after 20 I'm sick of it
[09:09] <idefix> il y a toujours un meilleur façon
[09:09] <idefix> phuzion?!?! anyone else?!?! i beg of you, help me!
[09:09] <xMS_user> idex consider command line image tools like image magik
[09:09] <xMS_user> what are you doing to each image?
[09:10] <phuzion> Yeah, I was going to suggest imagemagick
[09:10] <spdf> xMS_user: Hmm,, 15: Error while parsing number.. No other errors?
[09:10] <idefix> I'm converting from greyscale to black and white to save space
[09:10] <H4ck3rx> Please lets me know how to fix "Cannot find or run the base session script..." problem
[09:10] <xMS_user> idefix: lol, that is it?
[09:10] <idefix> yes!
[09:10] <phuzion> idefix, i'm pretty sure imagemagick can do it, just go and read up on it
[09:10] <xMS_user> let me bless you idefix, gimme a sec
[09:10] <bentob0x> Alright, I would like to share my /var/www/ folder for other people on my local network to go in there and work on the various projects that are in there, how can I do this the easiest way possible?
[09:11] <spdf> bentob0x: You could add people to the www-data group
[09:11] <bdancer> re all
[09:11] <bentob0x> do I need to create users on my machine locally spdf?
[09:11] <phuzion> bentob0x, Is everyone else on linux?
[09:11] <bentob0x> yes phuzion
[09:12] <idefix> phuzion xMS_user except you actually sort of have to look to make sure it's the right threshold value
[09:12] <H4ck3rx> Please let me know how to fix "Cannot find or run the base session script..." problem
[09:12] <spdf> bentob0x: How is it shared over the network?
[09:12] <bdancer> is there any repository with the latest nvidia drivers?
[09:12] <phuzion> idefix, so you're trying to automate the only step in the process, and it requires human input anyways?
[09:12] <bentob0x> it's shared using samba at the moment
[09:13] <idefix> well I could just say 'what the heck' and hope there's some magical value of success
[09:13] <idefix> 0<v<256
[09:13] <phuzion> bentob0x, that would have been my suggestion, for cross OS compatibility
[09:13] <spdf> bentob0x: /etc/samba/smb.conf, and add writeable=yes
[09:13] <idefix> how can you hack websites?
[09:14] <phuzion> wrong channel for that, bro
[09:14] <bentob0x> oko will dig into smb.conf spdf
[09:14] <xMS_user> idefix: that question can not be explain in irc
[09:14] <idefix> but I'm quite bright
[09:14] <idefix> I have my own site etc...
[09:15] <bdancer> is there any repository with the latest nvidia drivers?
[09:15] <xMS_user> buy a book on vulnerabilities and read, lol
[09:15] <phuzion> idefix, how old are you?
[09:15] <idefix> does it matter?
[09:15] <skyion> idefix >> might i suggest #iarzd3133tz0rhacKz0rchannel
[09:15] <phuzion> just curious
[09:15] <idefix> there's noone in there
[09:15] <phuzion> *facepalm*
[09:15] <bentob0x> depends what you mean by 'hack' exactly, if it's digging in there and mess with code to try to get something together quickly, have a look at #php idefix
[09:16] <phuzion> !offtopic
[09:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:16] <skyion> idefix.. if its a website, I would look at cirt and then look for vuln
[09:16] <bentob0x> if you mean abusing security vulnerabilities, that's another story ...
[09:16] <idefix> how long do you have to keep hitting on a girl when she has told you she thinks you're too serious?
[09:16] <phuzion> !offtopic
[09:16] <spdf> idefix: This isn't the place for that, Google to your hearts content.
[09:16] <phuzion> !ubuntu-datingadvice
[09:16] <Shazzamy> !offtopic
[09:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:16] <Shazzamy> LOL
[09:17] <xMS_user> btw idefix, sudo apt-get install imagemagick to install it and http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php to use the right combination for your needs
[09:17] <idefix> isn't it possible to make a macro simple with commands like "go to this window, alt-T-C-T ?
[09:17] <idefix> "
[09:18] <idefix> that hasta be possible
[09:18] <shaark> can a partition be resized on the fly in linux?
[09:18] <xMS_user> idefix: do you know if it is true that if you hit ctrl+alt+backspace your computer blows up?
[09:18] <skyion> bradc@isogenic:~$ apropos women
[09:18] <skyion> women: nothing appropriate.
[09:18] <spdf> xMS_user: Now now..
[09:18] <xMS_user> LOL
[09:18] <xMS_user> O:-) i've been bad
[09:18] <EnsGabe> I'm trying to build the hardy kernel on my gutsy machine (I need the restriced-modules package, and I'm not going to upgrade libc to get it.)  I do apt-get source linux-image-<version>, and in the linux-2.6.24 directory, do 'debuild -us -uc -b'.  After several hours, I get the error "check FAILED (nice one Tonto, go get the Lone Ranger)" when the script 'abi-check' is run.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[09:19] <idefix> hey phuzion you were in there
[09:19] <spdf> EnsGabe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646755
[09:19] <phuzion> what?
[09:19] <xMS_user> idefix: did you get the image stuff?
[09:19] <idefix> yes
[09:19] <idefix> but isn't GIMP omnipotential?
[09:20] <spdf> EnsGabe: Although, I just saw your libc business.. So, that's not going to help you
[09:20] <xMS_user> is there a REAL tutorial on how to install ubuntu gutsy on raid0
[09:20] <xMS_user> idefix: if you are omni-smart you could do scripts that do anything for oyu
[09:20] <xMS_user> you*
[09:20] <khelll> am trying to resize my ntfs partition using gparted, but am getting lock key beside the ntfs driver,also beside root driver
[09:21] <unagi_> anyone here happen to use kde or knetworkmanager..............how do you refresh the network list
[09:22] <phuzion> ok, idefix, let me ask you a question
[09:22] <phuzion> before you came in here, did you use google?
[09:22] <idefix> no, but google isn't everything..
[09:23] <Flynsarmy> How do you read core dumps? i tried to nano it but it just came up with all kinds of funky characters
[09:23] <phuzion> Google has seen way more webpages than this entire channel has collectively, squared
[09:23] <xMS_user> so no one uses raid0 with gutsy
[09:23] <phuzion> xMS_user, no, just no one in this channel
[09:24] <phuzion> so, ok, idefix, do this:  type ubuntu macro tool into google and hit I'm Feeling Lucky
[09:24] <ikonia> xMS_user: few people will use raid 0 as a technology
[09:25] <xMS_user> that is what i meant. ok, kill the raid project. word of advice to all in the channel, if you spent less than $120 on your MB and it says it has raid, it probably does not have real raid
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: everyone knows that
[09:25] <xMS_user> ikonia: what else is there? raid1+0?
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: fake raid is not a good technology full stop - even less in linux
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: Linux software raid is very good
[09:25] <shaark> khell: the partition is in use u can't do anything with it
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: the majority of people will use raid 1 or raid 5/6
[09:26] <xMS_user> ikonia: so linux soft raid is better than fakeraid?
[09:26] <ikonia> xMS_user: MUCH
[09:26] <phuzion> wtf, where did floodbot 2 go?
[09:27] <ikonia> phuzion: that language is uncalled for
[09:27] <xMS_user> ikonia: crap. so the performance hit would be against by cpu right?
[09:27] <ikonia> xMS_user: correct, exactly the same as it does in fakefaid
[09:27] <ikonia> fakeraid
[09:27] <xMS_user> what?! so why did i upgrade my MB!?>:o
[09:27] <ikonia> xMS_user: only you can answer that question
[09:28] <xMS_user> ikonia: ok, here i go-->cuz i was too lazy and too hasty
[09:28] <phuzion> whats the config application for compiz?
[09:29] <xMS_user> ikonia: so i will turn off fakeraid from my bios and use softraid. do you know of a good tutorial b4 i go to google?
[09:29] <ikonia> xMS_user: there is a guide on help.ubuntu.com and I wrote a detailed explaination respose to a user post on ubuntuforums.org that will help you
[09:29] <onats> xMS_user, why do you want to setup raid?
[09:31] <Flynsarmy> I'm able to write to a file 'area.tst' but when i try to get this program to use it the program says permission denied when trying to access it. I can't chmod - it says 'operation not permitted'. Ideas?
[09:31] <ikonia> what probgram ?
[09:31] <getmoney> Hello to all, i have a question, is there any gps software for ubuntu?
[09:31] <Flynsarmy> a MUD
[09:31] <ikonia> getmoney: not that I'm aware of
[09:32] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: where is it trying to write, and exactly what file/location ?
[09:32] <getmoney> i see.
[09:32] <xMS_user> onats: i hear raid0 gives better performance. until i get my quad-core and my 3more gigs i thought it would be worth it, but now that i see it will use my cpu it might not be the best thing
[09:32] <ikonia> getmoney: I use my GPS device with linux over bluetooth, but I'm not aware of any tomtom style software
[09:32] <ikonia> xMS_user: you hear wrong
[09:33] <getmoney> im trying to use my usb-gps
[09:33] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: ../txt/area.tst: Permission denied is what it says in the log. its /home/etrials/Rom24/area/area.tst
[09:33] <ikonia> xMS_user: raid 0 is a false economy and also provides a high risk or system failure/file system corruption
[09:33] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: please show me the permissions on the file
[09:33] <xMS_user> ikonia: ok and raid5?
[09:33] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: How do i find it out?
[09:33] <ikonia> xMS_user: how many disks to you have
[09:33] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: ls -la /home/etrials/Rom24/area/area.tst
[09:34] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: -rw-rw-r--  1 etrials etread 2348 Jan 31 00:42 area.tst
[09:34] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: what is the user launching the mud process ?
[09:35] <A[D]minS> !iptables
[09:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:35] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: enigma
[09:35] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: then you need to either make enigma the owner of that file - or you need to chmod it to be world writeable
[09:36] <getmoney> ikonia: your bluetooth gps is hooke up to your laptop running gps software? and what software are you running if you dont mind
[09:36] <spdf> Flynsarmy: if etrials owns it, then you'll have to chmod from that user, or use sudo
[09:36] <ikonia> getmoney: I'm not aware of any Tom tom style software
[09:37] <lordmorgoth> hey guys
[09:38] <lordmorgoth> im at work, and i need a GUI application to connect to ORACLE databases install on windows 2003, to alter,query,creat stuff ...etc any recommendations ??
[09:38] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: the oracle tools, things like svrmgr
[09:38] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: I assume you want the tools to run on linux ?
[09:38] <BubblegumTat1> hi, my firefox suddenly stopped working ''Segmentation fault (core dumped)" any ideas what I can do to diagnose/fix this problem
[09:38] <BubblegumTat1> ??
[09:38] <lordmorgoth> ikonia, is there a free version of those that runs on linux
[09:39] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: Can you still start firefox?
[09:39] <lordmorgoth> ikonia, yeah exactly i wanted to run on my ubuntu :)
[09:39] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: contact your Oracle vendor for license agrements
[09:39] <lordmorgoth> im the only linux ortiented personal here, and im trying to convince everyone else to migrate :)
[09:39] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: why - leave them be if they are happy
[09:40] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: contact your Oracle vendor. Or look at 3rd party tools like Toad
[09:40] <lordmorgoth> ikonia, oh i know toad lemme c if they have a linux clone
[09:40] <BubblegumTat1> spdf: no, it returns that immediately
[09:41] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: they don't have a "clone" but there i a linux version
[09:41] <lordmorgoth> great
[09:41] <lordmorgoth> im off back to work thanks ikonia
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> aha!
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> spdf
[09:42] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: Yes?
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> firefox will start in safe mode with extensions off
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> I suspect my firebug install went apeshit
[09:42] <ikonia> BubblegumTat1: I that language is uncalled for
[09:42] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: Yes, its likely an extension is causing problems.
[09:42] <ikonia> BubblegumTat1: is firebug a different product ?
[09:43] <spdf> ikonia: Its an extension for FF
[09:43] <BubblegumTat1> it's an invaluable firefox plugin for web developers
[09:43] <ikonia> ah, thank you
[09:43] <BubblegumTat1> usually awesome
[09:43] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: and apparently broken :D
[09:44] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: from the command line try "export MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1" then run firefox
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> spdf: so it would seem
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> spdf: it's all good
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> I uninstalled a bunch of extensions
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> and everything is made of gravy
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> this always happens
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> I come here
[09:45] <spdf> Delicious gravy... mmm
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> ask a question
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> then solve it
[09:46] <spdf> Its the asking that gets your mind movin'
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> bah
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> I don't believe in that stuff
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> it's obviously luck
[09:46] <spdf> Act of god, even.
[09:46] <idefix_>  phuzion what better is that one graphic program to the almighty gimp?
[09:51] <Kibbles> can any1 recommend a good GUI front-end for SSH?
[09:52] <spdf> Kibbles: There's a port of PuTTY I believe
[09:52] <_ruben> Kibbles: gui for ssh? ssh is plain text, not much need for a gui i'd say
[09:53] <meborc> you can use gftp to transfer files through ssh connection
[09:53] <meborc> but i prefer using scp
[09:53] <meborc> (which has no gui)
[09:53] <mavi-> it do
[09:54] <spdf> GUIs are nice for saving login information, and configuration for tunneling and such.. PuTTY on Windows is very nice
[09:54] <mavi-> or, there are scp-guis
[09:54] <mavi-> use the "mount server"
[09:54] <mavi-> Places->connect to server
[09:54] <mavi-> then click ssh, then you can drag'n'drop stuff over scp to that server
[09:54] <meborc> mavi-, :) hmm... i kind of never needed one, so i guess i missed them
[09:55] <mavi-> places->connect to server has support for several protocols
[09:55] <BubblegumTat1> ooh new question
[09:55] <mavi-> its really nice =)
[09:55] <mavi-> else gnome ssh manager is nice to manage your regular ssh sessions
[09:55] <Symmetria> urgh can someone recommend a good X mail client for me, evolution is the most unstable P.O.S I have ever seen in my life :p
[09:56] <Symmetria> its driving me completely insane
[09:56] <mavi-> thunderbird
[09:56] <mavi-> from mozilla
[09:56] <karl_> join #jquery
[09:56] <Symmetria> hrm, may as well migrate to thunderbird
[09:56] <karl_> help
[09:56] <spdf> karl_: Er..
[09:57] <karl_> lol, i thought that would trigger some help
[09:57] <karl_> I havent used IRC for 6 years or so
[09:57] <spdf> karl_: Asking a question triggers some help as well...
[09:57] <spdf> Not much has changed
[09:58] <karl_> apart from my memory of course
[09:58] <BubblegumTat1> nm found it
[09:59] <meborc> karl_, i gues you need to /j #channel
[09:59] <meborc> ;)
[09:59] <spdf> lol, I thought he was asking us to join.
[09:59] <Kibbles> spdf: thanks... that's what I was thinking about
[09:59] <meborc> he was trying to open F1 :O
[09:59] <khelll> am trying to resize my ntfs partition using gparted , but am getting lock key beside the ntfs drive and also my root drive , any suggestions ?
[10:00] <karl_> thanks meborc
[10:00] <spdf> Kibbles: gnome has an ssh manager as well, I haven't used it though
[10:00] <spdf> khelll: Is the ntfs partition mounted?
[10:01] <xMS_user> ikonia: still there buddy? i got disc when you asked me how many drives i have
[10:01] <ikonia> xMS_user: pardon?
[10:02] <Kibbles> spdf: what is it called and where can I find it?
[10:02] <xMS_user> i got disconected
[10:02] <khelll> yes am using kubuntu 7.10 , am able to read and write to that drive
[10:03] <xMS_user> ikonia: you had asked me how many drives i had
[10:03] <ikonia> xMS_user: ok, how many drives do you have
[10:03] <ikonia> n
[10:04] <jqk> Is there Colloquy for linux?
[10:04] <shaark> khell: just use a gpartd livecd
[10:04] <squak6> i broke my xorg file and my screen glitches instead of booting i think when i edited xorg file i broke it
[10:04] <shaark> boot from the cd and do the resize
[10:04] <squak6> worse i mean
[10:05] <squak6> i changed the depth from 24 to 16 but im not shure that was the problem cause it was a black screen before
[10:06] <xMS_user> 3x160gb and 1x250gb, 2x160gb as raid0 and 1x250gb for media. the last 160gb is not in the pc
[10:07] <ikonia> xMS_user: then I would use raid 5 and raid 1 - but thats up to you
[10:07] <xMS_user> ikonia: still, it would be eating y cpu right?
[10:07] <ikonia> xMS_user: use cpu - yes, eat cpu - no
[10:08] <zombie_monkey> how do I make eth0 just be up but not attempt to get an IP ?
[10:08] <squak6> what command do i type in safe mode to run that video config
[10:08] <spdf> *nom nom nom* cpu
[10:08] <jqk> zombie_monkey: disable dhcp on that interface.
[10:09] <crabgrass> so... how do i enable mplayer support in firefox?
[10:09] <crabgrass> i tried mplayerplug-in, but no luck
[10:09] <crabgrass> i can't live without liveleak!
[10:09] <xMS_user> ikonia: i think i am just gonna stay away from it for now. real raid is better but more expensive. i'll wait on that upgrade for later
[10:09] <ArthurArchnix> crabgrass: That plug in worked for me. What was the exact name of the pluging that didn't work?
[10:10] <crabgrass> i downloaded something called mplayerplug-in, compiled it, and no-go.
[10:10] <squak6> is there  a way to get the video fix when it glitches out rank instead of booting
[10:10] <underwatercow> how do I make it so my sound card will be hw:0?
[10:10] <zombie_monkey> jqk: it's not dhcp, http://pastebin.com/d44747d28
[10:10] <spdf> crabgrass: mozilla-mplayer
[10:10] <crabgrass> spdf: checking, one sec
[10:11] <crabgrass> that wouldnt happen to be in the core repos, would it?
[10:11] <spdf> crabgrass: multiverse
[10:11] <xMS_user> should my root partition be and the front or the end of my disk(i'm in gparted and am preparing a drive for a new install)
[10:11] <squak6> i need to default all the videosettings
[10:11] <crabgrass> wow, that's awesome
[10:11] <crabgrass> thank you apt!
[10:11] <jqk> zombie_monkey: That's ipv6.
[10:11] <ArthurArchnix> technically spdf, but apt is good too.
[10:12] <crabgrass> spdf: damn, still not working
[10:12] <spdf> Hmm.. restart firefox?
[10:12] <spdf> 'surf' to about:plugins
[10:12] <underwatercow> How do I know what to type for the card when trying to use "asound set-default-card"?
[10:12] <Kimahri> sorry bout my wireless guys... it's spazzing out
[10:12] <zombie_monkey> jqk: well I'm using pppoe, and my ISP said that I should disable that for my own security
[10:13] <crabgrass> spdf: odd, "shockwave flash" is the only one listed
[10:13] <spdf> You know.. I've been at work for 6hrs, and I've done about 20mins of actual work :S
[10:13] <squak6> im to mentally retarded to fix my video
[10:13] <xMS_user> i want to create a 3 partition disk (/,/home and swap) but dunno what order to create them
[10:13] <web_knows> o/
[10:14] <ArthurArchnix> crabgrass: What does sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer return? Is it already installed? Or not found? Your comment about flash confuses me.
[10:14] <xMS_user> ikonia: spdf, stdin can you help?
[10:15] <ikonia> xMS_user: doesn't matter
[10:15] <crabgrass> ArthurArchnix: it prompted me to install it, just like any program i did not previously have installed. the flash comment was in response to spdf's about:plugins suggestion
[10:15] <squak6> branch more sudo fed then lyle travolta
[10:15] <crabgrass> ArthurArchnix: which, i assume, means it did not install properly
[10:15] <ArthurArchnix> spdf: Depending on the size of partitions, I like to put my swap as close to the centre of disk as possible. I believe it offers me miliseconds of speed improvements. :P
[10:16] <ArthurArchnix> spdf: Sorry, that comment was meant for xMS_user
[10:16] <spdf> I remember actually thinking about that back when I first installed on a 486, but now it just doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned
[10:17] <zombie_monkey> ArthurArchnix: isn't the access fastest at the begginnig?
[10:17] <roelb> Hello everybody, I am deploying Ubuntu gutsy 7.10 on 100+ systems and I am looking for a list of correct parameters that I can in the preseed file
[10:17] <xMS_user> ikonia: thanks. so i will partition my 250gb   15gb for "/", 1gb for swap and the rest for "/home", copy over my home dir to the partition where the new /home will be and then install ubuntu on the hd. do i have it all right?
[10:18] <roelb> Does anybody know of such a list?
[10:18] <crabgrass> wow, i even got the mplayerplug-in  xpi from firefox's site, still not working
[10:18] <crabgrass> what in the hell?
[10:18] <spdf> crabgrass: is mplayer installed?
[10:18] <crabgrass> yes
[10:18] <ikonia> xMS_user: seems reasonable
[10:18] <singlesun> well, im back again, just finished installing on the wife's pc... however her wireless card will not connect to our wireless network.... it recognizes several networks in the area, but it will not connect to any of them, it tries but it fails to.. however my laptop with xp connects, so I know its not the networks... any thoughts?
[10:18] <crabgrass> that's the only thing, other than mpd, i use to view media
[10:19] <crabgrass> spdf: mpd for constant tunes, mplayer for everything else
[10:19] <ArthurArchnix> zombie_monkey: Well, if you're using swap that means you're doing something pretty intensive, which means you disk head is probably actively seeking and writing, which would mean that on average, swapping stuff out of RAM onto the disk should take less time if it's all done in the centre. THat's my understanding. But like spdf says, it with disk speeds nowadays it's unlikely to make an appreciable difference.
[10:19] <spdf> crabgrass: Hmm, I just stuck with totem's plugin, but its not great (has problems seeking and such)
[10:19] <shaark> singleshun:try ndiswrapper
[10:19] <Tidus> ok got a question
[10:19] <Tidus> how would i go about doing an in-place upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.10 ?
[10:20] <xMS_user> what can i use to quickly and safely copy/move the contents of my home dir to another partition? ( i assume cp -r /home/* /newmount would not work )
[10:20] <singlesun> shaark, ndiswrapper? is there are .deb or something i can download and then use my flashdrive to transfer to her PC?
[10:20] <ikonia> xMS_user: cp -Rxp
[10:20] <gregorovius> Tidus, I think update-manager should handle those upgrades
[10:21] <shaark> singleshun: ur wired ethernet should work
[10:21] <gregorovius> 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10
[10:21] <singlesun> shaark, no wired ethernet ;)
[10:21] <crabgrass> spdf: well... shit. this is strange
[10:21] <ikonia> crabgrass: please moderate your language
[10:21] <Tidus> gregorovius, update-manager shows 7.04 as latest
[10:21] <singlesun> shaark, im checking for a deb right now ;)
[10:21] <Tidus> for some odd reason
[10:21] <tapas> what was the last ubunbtu that sported kernel 2.4.x support?
[10:21] <gregorovius> Tidus, yeah, you gotta upgrade to 7.04 first
[10:21] <ikonia> tapas: 6.06 has a 2.4 kernel available
[10:21] <xMS_user> ikonia: can i add -v to see it in action too?
[10:22] <crabgrass> ikonia: please attempt to understand my frustration.
[10:22] <ikonia> tapas: but it's buit on 2.6
[10:22] <gregorovius> you can't skip a version
[10:22] <tapas> ikonia: ok, fair enough
[10:22] <ikonia> crabgrass: no - Moderate your language
[10:22] <ikonia> xMS_user: don't see why not
[10:22] <crabgrass> sigh.
[10:22] <tapas> ikonia: do you havppen to know th elibc version it uses, too?
[10:22] <Tidus> gregorovius, ok, but it keeps saying that the update authentication failed
[10:22] <ikonia> tapas: glibc you mean ?
[10:22] <tapas> ikonia: yep
[10:22] <crabgrass> well, in the time it took me to realize that something is very wrong with my system, i managed to wget the whole movie.
[10:22] <ikonia> tapas: it will be a 2.4 version due to linux-thread support rahter than pure nptl
[10:22] <gregorovius> that's a different issue, and I gotta go, gl :)
[10:23] <singlesun> anyone know if there is a deb for this ... ndiswrapper?
[10:23] <tapas> ikonia: ok.. sounds good
[10:23] <ikonia> tapas: exactly what 2.4.X version - don't know
[10:23] <tapas> ikonia: not quite so importnat, we'll roll our own anyways
[10:23] <Tidus> ok. anybody else know about this?
[10:23] <crabgrass> so, thanks anyways spdf and everyone else who replied (#ubuntu was actually kinda helpful... that's a first!), but i found a... solution?
[10:23] <tapas> ikonia: [kernel, not libc]
[10:23] <xMS_user> is swap necessary? i have 1gb ram and will upgrade next week to 2 or 3gb. but i would not want my system using the hd for memory
[10:23] <ikonia> tapas: thats fine.
[10:23] <ikonia> xMS_user: swap is advisable.
[10:24] <ikonia> xMS_user: your system will only use disk when it runs out of ram OR is more effciant
[10:24] <tapas> ikonia: pretty name is edgy right?
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: dapper
[10:24] <spdf> xMS_user: It may rarely use it, but you should still keep it
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: edgy is 6.10
[10:24] <tapas> hmm, dapper has glibc 2.3
[10:24] <tapas> hrmpf..
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: ooh really
[10:24] <xMS_user> can i get way with a 128mb for swap
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: there you go then
[10:24] <tapas> edgy has glibc 2.4 it seems
[10:24] <ikonia> xMS_user: why bother
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: that may still be linux-thread compatiable
[10:24] <ArthurArchnix> give it 1GB of swap and then when you upgrade decrease the swappiness. Links on the forums. I forget how it's done. But essentially you tell your system not to swap out very much.
[10:24] <tapas> so i wonder. does the edgy glibc have linuxthreads support still, toop?
[10:25] <tapas> ikonia: ok, i'll tryu
[10:25] <ikonia> tapas: 2.4 should still have it
[10:25] <xMS_user> ArthurArchnix: i did not know i could do that.
[10:25] <tapas> ikonia: linuxthreads support was always an add on to libc as i understand it..
[10:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: you can't - you'd need to resize the partition
[10:25] <tapas> ikonia: so they might have built it without it.. will try and see
[10:25] <ikonia> tapas: correct, but that add on was remove 2.5
[10:25] <ikonia> tapas: I suspect it's there for legacy support
[10:25] <xMS_user> ok, then in that case 1gb swap it is
[10:26] <xMS_user> is 15gb good for root and boot
[10:26] <tapas> ikonia: ok, now i only need to find an edgy image on ubuntu.com ;)
[10:26] <ikonia> xMS_user: depens on your needs
[10:26] <ikonia> tapas: pleanty around
[10:26] <tapas> ikonia: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download only offers me 6.06 or 7.10 ;)
[10:26] <ArthurArchnix> xMS_user: here's link for more info http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255511&postcount=43
[10:26] <tapas> ok, i suppose i'll dig in the pointed to locations
[10:26] <K9> re
[10:26] <K9> êó
[10:27] <ikonia> tapas: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/
[10:27] <tapas> ok
[10:27] <tapas> thanks
[10:27] <brk3> hi can anyone tell me how to run tightvncserver on port 5900 instead of 5901?
[10:27] <xMS_user> ikonia: well i alrady have my sites and my databases running off the /home dir. any data will be put there so i can backup the whole dir
[10:27] <tapas> brk3: sure.. don't run X on port 5900
[10:27] <tapas> ;)
[10:28] <tapas> brk3: then it's free for vncserver to take
[10:28] <cyberfin> hi ppl can anyone help a noob with a bash script?
[10:28] <brk3> tapas: umm, well then how do I change X's port?
[10:28] <ikonia> cyberfin: bash support is in #bash
[10:28] <cyberfin> thnx
[10:28] <tapas> brk3: well, for example startx -- :2
[10:28] <tapas> then it runs on 5902
[10:28] <ArthurArchnix> xMS_user: Now that I read the link I think I' going to turn it off. The demon helped solve my laptop hardrive death issues, so I think I'll give his swappiness hack a try.
[10:28] <tapas> brk3: erm maybe i talk nonsense
[10:28] <tapas> one moment
[10:29] <tapas> brk3: yeah i do talk nonsense
[10:29] <tapas> :)
[10:29] <nemilar> brk3: I think what tapas is getting at is, port 5900 is already in use...pick another port ;)
[10:29] <brk3> tapas: no you may be right but I would think there should be an easier way? you see I already can run vino on 5900 so I have that port forwarded. but I want to run tightvnc instead of vino
[10:30] <tapas> brk3: try the :0 option for Xvnc
[10:30] <tapas> i was wrong X's port for display :0 is 6000
[10:31] <tapas> so you should be able to simply tell tightvncserver to pass the :0 option on to Xvnc
[10:31] <nemilar> yeah i noticed that ;) 5900 is the default for vlc
[10:31] <tapas> which would cause it to use 5900
[10:31] <nemilar> er vnc
[10:31] <brk3> thanks il try it
[10:31] <Tidus> i have a small problem
[10:32] <tapas> fschmidt@caesar:/~$ tightvncserver :5
[10:32] <tapas> New 'X' desktop is caesar:5
[10:32] <xMS_user> denny are you from tvt?
[10:32] <Tidus> when i try to upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04, it tells me "Authentication failed. Authenticating the upgrade failed.  There may be a problem with the network or with the server." any ideas?
[10:32] <Jasmin_> nemilar: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/99
[10:33] <singlesun> no, i just tried that.... .my wireless adapter is still attempting to connect to the wireless network... but it never connects... even to unsecure networks...
[10:33] <singlesun> anyone?
[10:33] <brk3> exit
[10:34] <Jasmin_> nemilar: i hav to connect my airtel edge modem in kubuntu how do i do
[10:34] <nemilar> Jasmin_: no experience with that
[10:35] <singlesun> anyone have any clue why my usb wireless adapter is showing networks to connect to... tries to connect to them... but can not?
[10:35] <Tidus> when i try to upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04, it tells me "Authentication failed. Authenticating the upgrade failed.  There may be a problem with the network or with the server." any ideas?
[10:35] <singlesun> it was working fine just before i installed ;)
[10:35] <Tidus> have to go to 7.04 before i can step up to 7.10
[10:35] <Tidus> and the machine that's down has my only cd burner, so i can't just make a new cd
[10:35] <alanbshepard70> When I download and install a package from source to upgrade something that isn't in the repos how do I get the system to find that I've installed the package? Where do I install it to? I currently just put the source in my home dir and run ./configure && make && make install but this doesn't work :(
[10:36] <Jasmin_> plz anyone knows about airtel edge modem plz tel me how do i config.. http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/99
[10:36] <nemilar> Tidus: have you tried at another time?  Like, did you try a couple of days ago, and then again now?
[10:36] <Tidus> yeah
[10:36] <Tidus> it's a gpg key error
[10:36] <nemilar> alanbshepard70: generally that installs to /usr/bin/local, whereas packages install to /usr/bin
[10:36] <nemilar> alanbshepard70: err, /usr/local/bin, sorry
[10:37] <nemilar> man, I gotta go drink some coffee before I start telling people stuff
[10:37] <alanbshepard70> nemilar: thanks I'll try that
[10:37] <nemilar> Tidus: have you tried sudo apt-key update ?
[10:38] <Tidus> yeah
[10:38] <Tidus> same result
[10:38] <Tidus> didn't change either key
[10:39] <cwgannon> ahoy
[10:39] <cwgannon> if i have a core 2 duo, is there an x64 version of gutsy i should be installing?
[10:39] <Tidus> you can install the 64 bit version if you want... it's the amd64 cd image
[10:40] <Tidus> but it'll run the 32 bit version just fine
[10:40] <cwgannon> is there any benefit to be gained?  i already have the 32 bit version running, but if the x64 v will max the processor better, i'd switch
[10:40] <Rigolo> good morning
[10:40] <cwgannon> morning
[10:41] <Tidus> nemilar, same result after apt-key update
[10:41] <schlonzo> anybody know how to get 3945abg at 2.6.24 to work?
[10:41] <nemilar> Tidus: yeah, I'm looking around for a solution
[10:41] <Jasmin_> anyone help me plz..... about Airtel gprs/edge modem
[10:41] <Tidus> google is coming up dry for me
[10:41] <Rigolo> How do I create my own service startup script ubuntu style?
[10:41] <nemilar> Tidus: what version did you say you were trying to upgrade to?  FF?
[10:41] <Rigolo> do I need to create an upstart script?
[10:42] <esther> gr
[10:42] <schlonzo> does anybody know how i can get my intel 3945abg to work with kernel 2.6.24?
[10:42] <Tidus> 6.06 to 7.10
[10:43] <Tidus> err... 6.10 to 7.10
[10:43] <Tidus> the upgrade path is through 7.04
[10:43] <Tidus> and i think i got it
[10:43] <nemilar> Tidus: have you seen this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584425
[10:43] <Tidus> i have to install all updates first
[10:43] <Tidus> i found the upgrade notes from edgy to feisty
[10:44] <zLoSteR> hi can anyone tell why is my monitor turning off when there is no activity ?
[10:44] <schueler> Hi, is there a good, working download manager (should be able to increase speed by multiple conetctions)
[10:44] <schueler> it should be possible to set up a proxy
[10:44] <nemilar> zLoSteR: power save?
[10:45] <zLoSteR> i go to power options .. its on NEVER
[10:45] <zLoSteR> but still again its going black
[10:45] <zLoSteR> when no activity
[10:45] <nemilar> zLoSteR: is it turning off, or is it just going to a blank screen saver?
[10:45] <zLoSteR> i think it turning black screen
[10:45] <nemilar> check your screen saver ;)
[10:45] <zLoSteR> i've check it
[10:46] <zLoSteR> its off
[10:46] <nemilar> doesn't sound like it ?
[10:46] <schlonzo> does anybody know how i can get my intel 3945abg to work with kernel 2.6.24?
[10:46] <Gartral> hello all... my dpkg is svewed up
[10:46] <Gartral> screwed*
[10:47] <zLoSteR> pls if someone knows what to do .. because i can't one movie .. Normal way
[10:47] <zLoSteR> in about 10 minutes i have to move my mouse
[10:47] <zLoSteR> or press a key
[10:47] <zLoSteR> my screensaver is turned off
[10:47] <zLoSteR> and my power options is set to NEVER
[10:49] <naresh> hi
[10:51] <naresh> i m just trying clean url ?? can anyone help me ???
[10:51] <naresh> clean url in ruby on rails
[10:53] <bentob0x> I can't see inetd or xinetd on my process list, what is the default super-server on ubuntu?
[10:54] <Meronik> I have about 120 applications installed in Windows and I am transferring to Ubuntu. I need all those applications, what do I do?
[10:55] <zLoSteR> try installing wine if you want to work
[10:55] <bentob0x> Meronik: have a look at wine
[10:55] <naresh> hello
[10:55] <naresh> can anyone help me about clean url in ruby on rails ???
[10:55] <bentob0x> www.winehq.org Meronik
[10:55] <bentob0x> or sudo apt-get install wine Meronik
[10:56] <bentob0x> make sure you read the doc to see how to set it up and how to use it Meronik
[10:56] <Arnaud___> bonjour !
[10:56] <peleg> Good morning/evening everyone.
[10:56] <unop__> Meronik, there's a good chance that only a few of your applications will work well
[10:56] <Meronik> ok, I know wine. do you think it will run all the application until I find linux alternatives?
[10:57] <bentob0x> I can't see inetd or xinetd on my process list, what is the default super-server on ubuntu?
[10:57] <Meronik> "only a few"????
[10:57] <peleg> I wondered if someone could invest a few minutes helping me solve a problem which seems to be not too big, but does not let me access ubuntu.
[10:57] <unop__> Meronik, how many only you will have to find out by trying them on wine
[10:57] <peleg> I have posted it in the forum, but no-one replied, and in the meanwhile I'm using windows on a different computer... :-(
[10:58] <Meronik> ok, thank you
[10:58] <bentob0x> the alternative solution Meronik is to install VirtualBox and create a Windows machine to install the software you need to use on that virtual machine
[10:58] <misterwayne> Hi all, i just got visualboyadvance-gtk from APT (its a GBA Emulato) .. how can i run it? if i type visualboyadvanced in die bash nothing happens ..
[10:58] <peleg> So I'm here only because I think that this is quite urgent. Thanks ahead.
[10:58] <bentob0x> just type your question peleg
[10:58] <peleg> ok, thanks.
[10:58] <bentob0x> or link to the ubuntu post you made
[10:59] <peleg> this is my first post:
[10:59] <peleg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4229943#post4229943
[10:59] <tapas> hmm, the libc in edgy complains about my 2.4.36 kernel to be too old
[10:59] <peleg> and here is the continue of it:
[10:59] <peleg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405368&page=2
[11:00] <unop__> tapas, and it is quite old
[11:00] <tapas> unop__: edgy?
[11:00] <tapas> unop__: or the kernel?
[11:00] <unop__> tapas, the kernel -- it's in the 2.6 series now
[11:01] <tapas> unop__: i know
[11:01] <tapas> unop__: we have a legacy kernel module here
[11:01] <bentob0x> peleg: when you do ls -al ~/.dmrc what do you get?
[11:02] <peleg> I tried it once, in a minute I'm doing that again.
[11:02] <Maskarad239-8> tuxguitar is not in Synaptic (i use Gutsy) but I found it at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/t/tuxguitar/. Is this a bug or a only my problem? Please help me to solve this problem. When other have this Problem too I make a Bugreport in launchpad. Sorry for my english.
[11:02] <unop__> tapas, well, for the sakes of keeping that module you are kind of depriving yourself from a whole bunch of software that requires functionality from the 2.6 kernel
[11:03] <yeniklasorr> When I open 10-15 tabs on firefox, it is beginning to be unstable and not responding. How can I fix this?
[11:03] <_moro_bana_> does vncviewer work over local network or just over the internet or both
[11:03] <tapas> unop__: i know
[11:03] <peleg> -rw-r--r-- 1 peleg root 28 2008-01-30 8:57 //.dmrc
[11:03] <tapas> unop__: do you have any new information for me, too?
[11:03] <tapas> ;)
[11:03] <Gartral> both
[11:04] <unop__> yeniklasorr, then it's about time you had multiple firefox windows
[11:04] <josh__> anyone know a good program to do database uml diagrams ?
[11:04] <_moro_bana_> Gartral: is that for me
[11:04] <misterwayne> Hi all, i just got visualboyadvance-gtk from APT (its a GBA Emulato) .. how can i run it? if i type visualboyadvanced in die bash nothing happens ..
[11:04] <Gartral> yes
[11:04] <josh__> i tried DIA but i cant seem to find any objects that are database related
[11:04] <_moro_bana_> Gartral: please use my nick, the flood, thanks,:)
[11:05] <unop__> tapas, out of curiosity, what's this legacy module you have?
[11:05] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : I mean firefox is slowing down
[11:05] <tapas> unop__: it's a custom robot control module
[11:05] <Gartral> _moro_bana_: ehh justa pain :p
[11:05] <unop__> yeniklasorr, well, yes, even firefox has limits as to much it can handle, sooner or later it's going to start feeling the weight
[11:05] <savvas> yeniklasorr: if you have a lot of extensions / add-ons, they might be slowing down firefox
[11:06] <aurus> galera
[11:06] <aurus> alguém pode me ajudar a instalar o virtualbocx
[11:06] <aurus> virutalboxc
[11:06] <unop__> tapas, right, and no available alternative for 2.6?
[11:06] <aurus> virutalbox
[11:06] <tapas> unop__: we are in the process of porting the module
[11:06] <savvas> aurus: #ubuntu-es or #vbox ?
[11:06] <aurus> pois quando executo o mesmo, me traz um erro de libxalan 110
[11:06] <unop__> !es
[11:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:07] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : I have any 2 addons. I know it can be slow when open lots of windows. But I'm using windows xp too. On windows xp there is no slowing down abou firefox.
[11:07] <tapas> unop__: for the time being we need a 2.4.x system where we can run our software builds from our feisty systems
[11:07] <peleg> @bentob - are you still with me?
[11:07] <tapas> unop__: and this means glibc >= 2.4 and glibc <= 2.5
[11:07] <tapas> ;)
[11:07] <tapas> this leaves me with edgy
[11:08] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : I think i could be about memory usage. Maybe ubuntu has limitate about firefox. I don't know :(
[11:08] <unop__> yeniklasorr, i'm not sure - i usually start using new windows after about 7-8 tabs otherwise firefox becomes really unstable
[11:09] <savvas> yeniklasorr: if you are using i386 ubuntu and more than 2gb of memory, then yeah, that's a problem :P amd64 ubuntu version supports more than 2gb i think
[11:09] <unop__> tapas, well, i guess with this predicament, it's one way or another, no? i dont think you can have both
[11:09] <yeniklasorr> savvas : I have 1 gb of ram
[11:09] <tapas> unop__: hmm? we got it to work on a gentoo box
[11:09] <tapas> but gentoo is a pain to administer
[11:09] <tapas> need a software -> wait X hours
[11:09] <unop__> savvas, that would be 4gb actually, i386 can address upto 4gb
[11:10] <savvas> tapas: I think I suggested you to switch to a debian 2.4 kernel some days ago
[11:10] <unop__> tapas, if thats the case maybe you'd like to ask the guys in #ubuntu-devel
[11:10] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : If you use another window after 7-8 tabs, firefox isn't firefox be slow ?
[11:10] <aurus> thanks
[11:10] <tapas> savvas: yeah i played with debian systems.. they don't offer a 2.4 glibc
[11:10] <savvas> unop__: ah thanks :)
[11:10] <unop__> yeniklasorr, no because each window is it's own process
[11:11] <tapas> savvas: my tries to build one myself without using dpkg-buildpackage or similar failed
[11:11] <yeniklasorr> <unop__ : Okay I'm trying it now :D
[11:11] <_Lucretia_> can anyone help with this usb scanner?
[11:11] <_Lucretia_> it's supported by sane, but I've only ever been able to get it working every now and then, mostly not
[11:12] <peleg> I'm still looking for someone nice that could - maybe - help me with a quite urgent issue. I cannot login to my ubuntu because of $HOME/.dmrc problem.
[11:13] <peleg> I just can't access my ubuntu (the GUI; I CAN access the terminal)
[11:13] <savvas> tapas: i think you're looking for libc, http://packages.debian.org/etch/libc6.1
[11:13] <tapas> peleg: log into terminal
[11:13] <schmakk> hallo! i have some trouble with my ati x800, proprietary drivers and a fresh gutsy install. x gives me severely garbled graphics on boot, and then gives me "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" stuff. halp
[11:13] <tapas> peleg: mv. dmrc .dmrc.bak
[11:13] <peleg> I'm in the terminal (on a different computer)
[11:14] <tapas> savvas: well, that's for version 2.3, too no?
[11:14] <tapas> yeah 2.3/6
[11:14] <tapas> 2.3.6
[11:14] <erUSUL> peleg: boot into recovery mode and check the ownership and permissions of the file... should be user: youruser; group: youruser; chmod 600
[11:14] <peleg> moved the file
[11:15] <savvas> tapas: no idea, check out the "Similar packages:" on the right menu too
[11:15] <tapas> savvas: i searched my ass off
[11:15] <peleg> erUSUL: I think that I've done that already.
[11:15] <tapas> savvas: there's no libc 2.4 or 2.5 for debian afaik
[11:15] <tapas> edgy having 2.4. is my lucky day :)
[11:15] <savvas> oh
[11:15] <savvas> :\
[11:15] <peleg> I wrote it here
[11:16] <tapas> peleg: log into it via ssh and mv the dmrc
[11:17] <drowner> dudes: good live distro, free, with antivirus?
[11:17] <_Lucretia_> I'm not getting any /dev/usb/* devices (I also don't have the /dev/usb dir), but I am getting changes in /dev/usbdev5.6_ep?? files < present if the scanner is plugged in
[11:17] <savvas> drowner: it's called ubuntu :P
[11:17] <peleg> tapas: in a minute.
[11:18] <peleg> I'm getting help in a private channel at the moment, thanks.
[11:18] <schmakk> anywhere i can go to find people whos hardcore with ubuntu and ati cards?
[11:18] <erUSUL> peleg: my .dmrc (umodified since install afaik contain tw simple lines 1: [Desktop] 2: Session=default
[11:18] <savvas> schmakk: try your luck here
[11:18] <drowner> savvas: yeah, fair enough
[11:18] <drowner> i have ubuntu
[11:18] <schmakk> savvas: i just did, nobody said anything so i figured there could be a gfx related channel or something
[11:19] <drowner> but my comp illeterate friend
[11:19] <drowner> has XP and a virus
[11:19] <erUSUL> !ati | schmakk
[11:19] <ubotu> schmakk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <drowner> i was hoping you dudes would point out a distro for me ;)
[11:19] <schmakk> erUSUL: i did just that, and i got garbled gfx on reboot, then "ubuntu is running in low gfx mode" and so on.
[11:19] <_Lucretia_> ANYBODY?
[11:20] <savvas> drowner: if he has a good internet connection, he could use ubuntu and search for an antivirus from the menu Applications > add/remove - you don't have to be comp literate to update and search :)
[11:20] <drowner> this is true
[11:20] <drowner> but its a slow download, really
[11:20] <drowner> for what he needs
[11:21] <savvas> drowner: otherwise you have www.linuxmint.com or.. www.thinkgos.com ?
[11:21] <drowner> maybe
[11:21] <drowner> i'm wondering if RIP has it
[11:21] <polysilicon> How to find out the floppy device filename? In my case its noe /dev/fd0
[11:21] <drowner> Recovery is POssible
[11:21] <savvas> schmakk: otherwise, a better way to ask are the www.ubuntuforums.org or at launchpad http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[11:21] <polysilicon> In my case its not /dev/fd0
[11:22] <schmakk> savvas: i suppose so. thanks anywya :)
[11:22] <savvas> schmakk: are you using the restricted or the open source drivers?
[11:23] <schmakk> savvas: i used the gui to get the restricted ones. ubuntu even knew my dell p1110 monitor. when i set both of those up, x hurls
[11:24] <schmakk> if i just get restricted drivers, x works, but then i cant run 1600x1200
[11:24] <balbir__> need some tool for worldtime, which will always be in top
[11:24] <misterwayne> Hi all, i just got visualboyadvance-gtk from APT (its a GBA Emulato) .. how can i run it? if i type visualboyadvanced in die bash nothing happens ..
[11:24] <L3ttuc3> schmakk ati drivers?
[11:24] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: yes.
[11:24] <schmakk> i read they could be flaky, but that doesnt help me much :)
[11:25] <L3ttuc3> schmakk there was one with the widescreen bug that reset maximum resolution to 1280x1024. they release one a week or two ago that fixed this, however i'd not heard of your problem.
[11:25] <savvas> schmakk: hum, i'm using nvidia, it's totally out of my league, sorry :) doesn't dell support their stuff?
[11:25] <savvas> misterwayne: try gvba
[11:25] <misterwayne> thx dude!
[11:26] <savvas> np:)
[11:26] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: 1280x1024 isnt my max res, 1600x1200 is just missing. it goes all the way up to 19xx 17xx something something
[11:26] <schmakk> savvas: dell does, but not when its as old as this thing :)
[11:26] <balbir__> need some tool for world time, which will always be in top
[11:26] <L3ttuc3> schmakk im still waiting for them to fix their opengl implementation; trying to use 'opengl' with vlc does not work, everything else gives me jerky video when hardware 3d acceleration is on.
[11:26] <_Lucretia_> is the scanner module prebuilt into the ubuntu kernel?
[11:26] <L3ttuc3> schmakk are the entries in xorg.conf?
[11:27] <balbir__> I need to see the time of UTC, PST and EST
[11:27] <L3ttuc3> savvas ati drivers are a pain.
[11:27] <balbir__> to analyse it
[11:27] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: i tried checking, but i never bothered till it was too late. entried are there, but at the time i checked, ubuntu booted in a resolution my monitor could take at all. entries went up to 2kx2k stuff
[11:27] <savvas> L3ttuc3: I know, that's why I bought nvidia :P
[11:27] <pawan_> hi
[11:27] <L3ttuc3> savvas bit screwed when you already have a laptop though :/.
[11:27] <pawan12> hi
[11:28] <schmakk> at that point, even console was fubar. could only see the top left fourth of the screen when switching to another terminal
[11:28] <gig> hi guys! i'd like know what install theme in gutzy gibbon....
[11:28] <gig> sorry for my english
[11:29] <L3ttuc3> schmakk try manually editing them in a console? sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:29] <L3ttuc3> schmakk that does sound a bit messed up. had a similar problem upgrading nvidia drivers about 8 years ago. that was one of the major reasons i went off linux that long.
[11:29] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: tried, but i can only see the top left half of the screen. like console is written with a way too big font or something. and no, i dont know how to correct that with commands
[11:30] <albech> my network is crashing randomly.. all of the sudden i cant even ping my router and it returns 'no route to host
[11:30] <L3ttuc3> schmakk you could try booting off the liveCD and editing from there.
[11:30] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: i did, but eventually i just gave up and nuked the partition with ubuntu. igot frustrated that even gui stuff didnt work :)
[11:30] <L3ttuc3> schmakk try downgrading to a previous ati driver?
[11:30] <L3ttuc3> schmakk problem solved then?
[11:31] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: solved in the sense that i have no ubuntu, but windows. some of the eyecandy i saw with a fresh gutsy install was really nice
[11:31] <L3ttuc3> schmakk eyecandy is one of the major reasons i zapped vista and xp.
[11:32] <L3ttuc3> and im hoping this install of gutsy is going to be stable. last one was on a usb hard disk, and that died after interface IO errors (apparently).
[11:32] <_Lucretia_> is the scanner module prebuilt into the ubuntu kernel?
[11:32] <_Lucretia_> is the scanner module prebuilt into the ubuntu kernel?
[11:32] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: come on, its the only pr0n nerds get! besides, it can be useful, like how it looks when you switch desktop and stuff
[11:33] <L3ttuc3> i love it. got some stuff i can tinker with. sorry. bit off topic.
[11:34] <schmakk> oh well, thanks for the help savvas and L3ttuc3. im off to give it another go. if part of denmark blows up, you now know why
[11:34] <L3ttuc3> lol.
[11:34] <L3ttuc3> good luck.
[11:34] <savvas> hehehe
[11:36] <zLoSteR> need little help :}
[11:36] <Arelis> Hi all. Remember me asking all those questions about Linux distro's and stuff? Well, i got helped out pretty well and i found out i was actually looking for a bullet-proof OS. Because i tend to break computers. lots. So we came to this solution: Use a core OS, place virtual machine software on that and do my daily tasks IN that virtual machine. But what would be a good core OS?
[11:36] <Arelis> So: Core OS -> Two virtual machines (Windows, Linux) -> Daily tasks
[11:36] <Arelis> Please don't ask the reason. I'm sure of it.
[11:37] <bod_> hi guys
[11:37] <Tidus> Arelis, sorry to ask, but why do you tend to break computers?
[11:37] <Tidus> or how...
[11:38] <Arelis> Tidus: Well... many times it's different. Installing stuff, removing stuff, customizing things..
[11:38] <MasseR> Ho wcome my ubuntu 7.10 changes /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sda1 randomly? Besides the other drive isn't even sata but ide, it should be hd*, right?
[11:38] <MasseR> *how come
[11:38]  * bod_ thinks Arelis needs to learn to read the instruction manual     ;)
[11:38] <Arelis> Tidus: The thing is, i spend more time fixing my computer, than using it.
[11:38] <Arelis> bod_: see above
[11:38] <Tidus> i use a mac for my daily tasks...
[11:39] <bod_> Arelis, why is your computer always broken?
[11:39] <Tyczek> how to control the fan speed in laptop?
[11:39] <Tidus> i keep a linux machine to play around with, and windows for games
[11:39] <aantipop> how do i create a backtrace ?
[11:39] <Arelis> bod_: Well it's different every time.
[11:39] <bod_> Tidus, i ditched win completely now    yay!!!
[11:39] <white_eagle> !yay bod_
[11:39] <savvas> Arelis: a good core os would be one that first and foremost supports the virtual machines and has a good support for a graphical interface for you to play with your virtual machines. you got a good dozen of them: debian, centos, fedora, ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu... whatever suits your stylish needs
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yay bod_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <Tidus> bod_, congratulations
[11:39] <white_eagle> !yay | bod_
[11:39] <ubotu> bod_: Glad you made it! :-)
[11:40] <bod_> Arelis, lol cool
[11:40] <idefix_> where's the office  channel/
[11:40] <idefix_> ?
[11:40] <bod_> tht was to white_eagle
[11:40] <white_eagle> :)
[11:40] <savvas> idefix_: #openoffice.org ?
[11:41] <Arelis> savvas: well i'm on OpenSuSe now (which i was using as my main system) but virtualization on it is crap. I've had Ubuntu being unstable issues. I always used Gutsy. Is Feisty better?
[11:41] <bod_> Arelis, sorry that wasnt for u,.,.,. erm,. so is it your fault they break? because you were messing with something you shouldnt have messed with? or some factor you couldnt control?
[11:41] <bod_> Gutsy for the win!!!
[11:41] <savvas> Arelis: feisty (7.04) is even more unstable compared to gutsy (7.10)
[11:41] <Arelis> bod_: I often mess with things i should not mess with. And sometimes it happens out of itself.
[11:42] <DarkHelfer03> how i can change the resolution to 1280x1024 ? the max is 1024x768
[11:42] <Arelis> And sometimes i just do normal things (like installing virtualbox from a .dpkg) which break things like apt-get, making it segfault all the time.
[11:42] <brk3> is there a way to bind tightvncserver to display :0?
[11:42] <Arelis> savvas: And Dapper?
[11:42] <bod_> Arelis, i have used linux for 1 month (thats right 1,. and i was a windows user) (now im in here helping people with the simple stuff) but my point is,. gutsy 7.10 is almost brilliant if you use this channel
[11:43] <Tidus> i've been using linux since Mandrake 9.0
[11:43] <savvas> Arelis: well they say it's the long term support, it has to be stable. I can't remember though, after 2 years of upgrades :) gutsy seems to like me. btw, are you using virtualbox or vmware? http://www.virtualbox.org
[11:43] <Tidus> so roughly 6 years
[11:43] <bod_> Tidus, golden oldie ,.,.;~)
[11:44] <Arelis> savvas: Which is better?
[11:44] <DarkHelfer03> can one help me ? .__.
[11:44] <savvas> Arelis: definitely gutsy
[11:44] <bod_> DarkHelfer03,  im not sure if you can have a bigger res then your screen allows
[11:44] <Arelis> savvas: no i mean virtualbox or vmware?
[11:45] <savvas> Arelis: ah, vbox is a lot quicker when it comes to running applications, and I'm afraid that the binary package is the way to go (not the opensource) since they have some goodies installed along with the binary version, like the virtualbox addons
[11:46] <DarkHelfer03> my screen allow 1280x1024
[11:46] <g0tcha> hey guys, anyone here installed ubuntu on an external hdd?
[11:46] <Tidus> DarkHelfer03, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:46] <Arelis> savvas: Alright.  Think the unstableness has been me screwing the system up all the time?
[11:46] <Tidus> Arelis, possibly
[11:46] <Tidus> i'm the same way you are
[11:47] <bod_> Tidus,  whats this -phigh bit ,. i thought it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg
[11:47] <savvas> Arelis: what are your system specifications? processor, ram memory, graphics card to begin with
[11:47] <Tidus> but i figured out that if i want a system to stay running, i can't tinker with it too awful much
[11:47] <Arelis> Tidus: I'll enter the liveCD now and we'll talk further. :)
[11:47] <Arelis> savvas: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard:ATI Radeon 9600, RAM: 768MB
[11:47] <Tidus> -phigh makes it ask all questions
[11:47] <savvas> Arelis: the ati card might be a problem
[11:48] <Tidus> the 9600 is supported by xorg proper
[11:48] <Arelis> savvas: why?
[11:48] <Tidus> in both 2d and 3d mode
[11:48] <Arelis> Tidus: alright
[11:48] <bod_> Tidus, ok cool ty,.,. oh and do you no how i would take a tar backup of my machine, excluding the other hard drives and piping the tar file to an external drive when its finished?
[11:48] <savvas> Arelis: well a lot of people complain about it, but give the livecd a go, if you have internet connection, I think the rest can be fixed :)
[11:48] <bod_> *external = internal but other
[11:48] <Tidus> bod_, i'm not a shell wizard ... otherwise i'd help ya
[11:49] <Ziroday> bod_: have you looked at rsync?
[11:49] <DarkHelfer03> what driver ? tdfx, tga, trident, tseng or vesa ? i have a Geforce 2
[11:49] <Arelis> savvas: alright. I've been using Ubuntu for about a year though. And Debian before that, and Gentoo before that. And i've not had many issues with my ATI card. But will virtual machines work? Oh, and one last question: Should i upgrade the core OS when the time comes?
[11:50] <Tidus> Arelis, my system: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.603ghz, Videocard: nVidia GeForce 6600GS, RAM: 512MB
[11:50] <bod_> Ziroday, if thats a backup program i dont want to use one,. i want the joy of typing things and making things happen ,. im board of gui apps since winbugs,.,.thanks anyway
[11:50] <Ziroday> DarkHelfer03: for a geforce 2 look you need vesa
[11:50] <Ziroday> bod_: its a backup cli program :)
[11:50] <bod_> Ziroday, who's cli?
[11:50] <Tidus> CLI = command line interface
[11:50] <Ziroday> bod_: command line program
[11:50] <DarkHelfer03> i have the geforce 2, my 7600GS make many problems >_>
[11:50] <Unagi> ok, i don't know if this the place to ask this, but i can't seem to ping any of my other computers from Ubuntu or vice versa by IP or Name, but i can ping my router and access the internet
[11:51] <bod_> Ziroday, oh,.im intrigued,. go on
[11:51] <Unagi> i am a linux noob
[11:51] <bod_> hi
[11:51] <DarkHelfer03> and now reboot ?
[11:51] <Ziroday> !rysnc > bod_ (look at pm from ubotu)
[11:51] <savvas> Arelis: well my suggestion would be to install gutsy for now, use it for a year (until it is supported), then switch to hardy, which is a bug-fixing release, they say it's going to be even more stable
[11:51] <Tidus> DarkHelfer03, yes
[11:51] <DarkHelfer03> ok bye ^^
[11:52] <bod_> anyone ,.,. networks,. for Unagi?
[11:52] <Tidus> savvas, hardy's going to be the next LTS release
[11:52] <Arelis> savvas: use it for a year?
[11:52] <Arelis> savvas: Not directly switch to Hardy?
[11:52] <bod_> Ziroday, ubotu is a dum bot,.,.  he knows nothing of that program
[11:52] <Tidus> !rsync
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Arelis> !info rsync
[11:52] <ubotu> rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[11:53] <savvas> Arelis: yeah, but if you want something stable, give it some time, around june there will be another hardy release 8.04.1, I'd wait until june
[11:53] <bod_> savvas, i dont want it to be amazingly stable,.,. cause then i wont learn anything,.,. they should make deliberate mistakes,.,.;)P
[11:53] <Unagi> guess im not worth helping :<
[11:53] <Arelis> savvas: alright.
[11:53] <Ziroday> bod_: apologies thought there was a factoid on it
[11:53] <Arelis> Ziroday:
[11:53] <Arelis> !info rsync
[11:53] <ubotu> rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[11:53] <bod_> Ziroday, dw il google it ,.,.cheers
[11:53] <Assid> bod_: then go hardy
[11:53] <Tidus> savvas, kinda like 6.06.1 ?
[11:53] <savvas> Arelis: you yourself said you tend to break stuff, if you stick to one release for some time, you get stable :)
[11:53] <savvas> Tidus: exactly :)
[11:54] <Arelis> savvas: alright :)
[11:54] <Assid> i can probable crash any OS
[11:54] <bod_> Assid, im no where near good enough to bug fix my way out of an alpha
[11:54] <Arelis> savvas: i didn't know there were 8.04.1 releases?
[11:54] <Arelis> are there sub-releases?
[11:54] <Ziroday> Arelis: there are no sub releases
[11:54] <savvas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[11:54] <savvas> everything you need to know about the release schedule
[11:55] <Ziroday> savvas: that schedule is not definite yet,
[11:55] <Assid> i think the opengl issues compiz brings up should be solved first tho
[11:55] <Assid> Ziroday: the lts release is a good 6 months away
[11:55] <bod_> Unagi did anyone answer you?
[11:55] <savvas> Ziroday: it's somewhere there :) give or take a month hehe
[11:55] <Ziroday> Assid: no
[11:55] <Ziroday> savvas: about right :)
[11:56] <Assid> no?
[11:56] <albec1> what can it be that cause my computer to randomly loose all connectivity.. it can ping itself, but not the router
[11:56] <Tidus> the release schedule is definite
[11:56] <Ziroday> Assid: the LTS release is less than 6 months away barring some unforseen catostrphe
[11:56] <Tidus> 2008.04.27 is more than likely going to be the date for hardy
[11:56] <albec1> i have been keeping an eye on the log files and they say nothing
[11:56] <Ziroday> Assid: it currently nearing beta stage
[11:57] <Nermal> albec1, dodgy network driver ?
[11:57] <bod_> guys your leaning towards !ot,. we need to be supporting the people with questions
[11:57] <bod_> not talking bout hardy
[11:57] <Assid> Ziroday: yeah i know.. but its no where NEAR stability
[11:57] <savvas> Tidus: don't bet on that, maybe they'll release it sooner to avoid the massive downloading
[11:57] <kristian42> albec1: Is your link lamp green on the nic ?  Also ubuntu+1 talk in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:58] <albec1> kristian42: the switch still show have the link light on
[11:58] <Assid> k
[11:58] <albec1> im pinging the system from another one and when the nic crash i get 'no route to host'
[11:58] <DarkHelfer03> one moment i change my monitor
[11:58] <kristian42> albec1: tried ifdown & ifup combination ?
[11:59] <hypnus9> !server
[11:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[11:59] <albec1> kristian42: tried network restart.. i guess that do both
[11:59] <savvas> !kernel
[11:59] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[11:59] <albec1> kristian42: after a reboot the system is connected again
[11:59] <Nermal> albec1, anything in dmesg
[11:59] <ispino> hello
[12:00] <Ziroday> albec1: next time that happens try sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[12:00] <ispino> how can i burn a cd with imaged with .mdf
[12:00] <albec1> nothing in the log files
[12:00] <cosmodad> ispino: download mdf2iso, use it to convert the image to the generic .iso format, and burn it with standard software afterwards.
[12:00] <Nermal> so nothing in dmesg ?
[12:01] <cosmodad> ispino: download=install: it's in the repository.
[12:01] <zLoSteR> did someone knows why my screen is turning black ... when no activity ? EVEN WHEN I WATCH MOVIES
[12:01] <albec1> Nermal: nope
[12:01] <Nermal> albec1, try rmmod'ding the module and modprobing it again
[12:01] <ispino> thnks i ll try
[12:01] <Ziroday> !caps | zLoSteR
[12:01] <ubotu> zLoSteR: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:01] <Nermal> zLoSteR, because your video player is not xscreensaver aware
[12:01] <zLoSteR> sorry :}
[12:02] <albec1> Nermal: the network driver module?
[12:02] <Nermal> albec1, yeah
[12:02] <Ziroday> zLoSteR: look at Power Management Preferences
[12:02] <zLoSteR> i already try there
[12:02] <zLoSteR> its set to never
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLoSteR: using mplayer?
[12:02] <Blinkiz> Am in need linux headers and probably some other stuff. I learned about a nice little program for this a few days ago. Was something with "moduleassistant". I was really simple. What can it be?
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLinux: oh to never -- nevermind then.
[12:02] <zLoSteR> no .. Totem
[12:02] <kristian42> albec1: I usualyl keep an el-cheapo nictucked away. I actually have problems with about 50%  of the embedded mainboard nics.
[12:02] <Ziroday> zLoSteR: also disable all screensavers
[12:02] <zLoSteR> they are disabled
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLinux: sorry wrong one.
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLoSteR: some BIOS setting possibly?
[12:03] <Administrator_> hi
[12:03] <zLoSteR> never thought of that
[12:03] <albec1> kristian42: yeah.. i should probably just throw in a good old 3com
[12:03] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: module-assistant
[12:03] <zLoSteR> well there what can i done ;]
[12:03] <zLoSteR> brb
[12:03] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: short-hand m-a
[12:03] <Tidus> albec1, i keep a good old realtek 8139 floating around :)
[12:03] <albec1> Nermal: i cant figure out which module it is
[12:04] <albec1> Nermal: lsmod :D
[12:04] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: it's used for building kernel modules, however, the headers are a prerequisite to it.
[12:04] <Nermal> albec1, can you paste the output of dmesg to pastebin ?
[12:04] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: you can download headers using synaptics/apt-get/aptitude.
[12:04] <albec1> Nermal: give me a sec
[12:04] <Administrator_> how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 7.10???
[12:04] <Nermal> !nvidia
[12:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <albec1> Nermal: have to reboot it and hope it stays up while i paste it :D
[12:05] <Nermal> albec1, ok :)
[12:05] <Blinkiz> cosmodad: That was the command. "sudo module-assistant m-a". Very nice little line. Thanks :(
[12:05] <Blinkiz> I mean, :)
[12:05] <RomeReactor> Administrator_: go to 'System->Administration->Restricted Drivers manager'
[12:05] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: it's: sudo m-a <options>
[12:05] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: or sudo module-assistant, but don't concatenate.
[12:06] <albec1> im installing ubuntu on my dads computer after finally convincing him its the way to go and he is a bit worried about this problem ;)
[12:07] <DarkHelfer03> this monitor allows 1280 >_>
[12:07] <Administrator_> thx
[12:08] <lerio> guys can i install 32bit ubuntu 7.10 in 64bit machine?
[12:08] <Nermal> yup
[12:08] <arthur37854> help what happened to my screen grafix?
[12:08] <Nermal> they went wrong
[12:09] <Ziroday> arthur37854: youre going to have to be slightly more descriptive then "its broken"
[12:09] <mahmood> get gcc link
[12:09] <arthur37854> my resoulition is low  800x600 can't get back 1024x768
[12:09] <Nermal> mahmood, apt-get install build-essential ?
[12:10] <Ziroday> arthur37854: are you running gutsy?
[12:10] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: what video card do you have?
[12:10] <Nermal> arthur37854, did you boot your machine up without the monitor on ?
[12:10] <arthur37854> the power went out
[12:10] <arthur37854> then the screen res went haywire
[12:11] <Nermal> cntrl -alt -f2
[12:11] <Nermal> login
[12:11] <arthur37854> gutsy 7.10
[12:11] <Nermal> and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:12] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: did you try the Screen Resolution application in 'System->Preferences'?
[12:12] <dZen|n|> hello do smebody know any "hosted exchange" for linux ?
[12:12] <arthur37854> not sure of the video card but fro lspci says vga compatable controller ATI tecnologies inc 3d range pro apg
[12:12] <Ziroday> dZen|n|: not the right place to ask.
[12:12] <dZen|n|> where then ?
[12:12] <lerio> i have 32bit installer and a 64bit machine...is this possible to install the 32bit to 64bit machine?
[12:13] <RomeReactor> lreio: yes.
[12:13] <dZen|n|> lerio: yes
[12:13] <albec1> http://www.pastebin.org/17358
[12:13] <arthur37854> I reinstalled the system during install I have good grafics but after install it goes low res
[12:13] <arthur37854> yes I tried to adjust it
[12:13] <Ziroday> arthur37854: do you have a monitor plugged in when you start up your machine?
[12:13] <arthur37854> yes
[12:14] <arthur37854> monitor pluged in yes
[12:14] <Nermal> arthur37854, what happened after you restarted gdm like I said
[12:14] <arthur37854> it shows up plug and play 800x600
[12:14] <dZen|n|> try to stop and start you pc several times.
[12:14] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: are you using the open source drivers or the proprietary ones?
[12:14]  * Nermal sighs
[12:14] <albec1> Nermal: did you get my pastebin?
[12:15] <arthur37854> im not sure what drivers im using
[12:15] <Tidus> arthur37854, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and make sure the correct screen resolutions are selected.
[12:16] <donald_> ati 3d rage pro is old
[12:16] <Nermal> albec1, yes - all I can see is your gigabit network card being eth0
[12:16] <albec1> yeah
[12:17] <albec1> i dont see anything wrong in the dmesg myself
[12:17] <arthur37854> what after reconfigure reboot? or restart x
[12:17] <albec1> Nermal: and when it crashes its not leaving anything in the log files
[12:18] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: press CTRL+ALT+F1, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[12:18] <Tidus> arthur37854, restart X
[12:18] <RomeReactor> arthur37854:then run the command
[12:18] <albec1> Nermal: id like to restart the module though
[12:18] <pranith> how do i disable preview for pdf files in nautilus.. while retaining it for video files?
[12:18] <lerio> i tried to install many times but all i see is black screen and wont log to xserver
[12:19] <Tidus> albec1, modprobe -r <module name> removes the module from memory
[12:19] <ispino> cosmodad i install the packages
[12:19] <Tidus> then just modprobe <module>
[12:19] <Nermal> Tidus, he's not sure what module it is :|
[12:19] <ispino> what is the command for export
[12:19] <Nermal> can you paste the output of lspci and lsmod ?
[12:19] <lerio> regarding the 32bit ubuntu to 64bit machine is this possible
[12:20] <donald_> lerio: 32bit will run on 64-bit machine
[12:20] <RomeReactor> pranith: in the terminal: gconf-editor
[12:20] <pranith> RomeReactor, yeah.. i opened it.. which option do i disable in here?
[12:21] <RomeReactor> pranith: there go to "desktop->gnome->thumbnailers" and disable "application@pdf"
[12:21] <lerio> donald: i tried it many times and it wont log to xserver it restarted 6times
[12:21] <donald_> lerio: ubuntu version? live CD?
[12:21] <odysseas> hi all, does ubuntu have a special tool to configure /etc/fstab or should I edit it manually?
[12:22] <pranith> RomeReactor, Thanks a Lot!
[12:22] <pranith> :)
[12:22] <lerio> ubuntu 7.10 and a live cd
[12:22] <Ziroday> odysseas: what program are you thinking off?
[12:22] <lerio> donald: 7.10 and a live cd
[12:22] <odysseas> Ziroday I just formated one partition and now /etc/fstab has a wrong entry for it
[12:22] <Oli``> odysseas: yeah it has loads vi, vim, joe, nano, emacs, gvim, gedit, etc =)
[12:22] <donald_> lerio: hardware specs?
[12:23] <Tronic> Is it possible to force the installer to install on existing partitions without formatting them first?
[12:23] <albec1> restarting the module doesnt help
[12:23] <Tidus> odysseas, it shouldn't be too hard to edit by hand
[12:23] <zombie_monkey> http://www.overcompensating.com/comics/20080130.png
[12:23] <donald_> Tronic: not a good idea for /
[12:23] <zombie_monkey> wait, wrong channel
[12:23] <Tronic> donald_: I only have data files there, no system.
[12:23] <lerio> donald: gigabyte ga-vm900m, pentium4 HT 64bit, 1Gb ddr2, shared video
[12:24] <himanshu> nebdy knows how to install yahoo msgr on ubuntu
[12:24] <Tronic> The problem is that I don't want to move 50 gigs of files somewhere else and back.
[12:24] <Tidus> himanshu, pidgin can connect to yahoo
[12:24] <arthur37854> now I have switch user pannel quit unexpectedly reload or don't reload?
[12:24] <himanshu> but i want voice also
[12:24] <donald_> Tronic: shld be OK then
[12:24] <himanshu> is it there in pigdin
[12:24] <Tidus> not too sure
[12:24] <dhavalp> hi all is there any method to install ubuntu without formatting hard disk
[12:24] <Ziroday> himanshu: no
[12:24] <donald_> lerio: sounds OK. maybe hardware problems
[12:25] <Tronic> donald_: Yes, if only I could get past the installer that doesn't let me do that.
[12:25] <donald_> Tronic: try the alternate-CD
[12:25] <spydr4590> Does anyone know an easy to understand guide to compiling source code?
[12:25] <himanshu> by d way thnx for d info
[12:26] <albec1> looks like its a known problem.. with the r8169 module
[12:26] <zLoSteR> hi again
[12:27] <zLoSteR> i tried in bios but still nothing
[12:27] <zLoSteR> :\
[12:27] <donald_> Lerio: when does the computer restart? after u get a desktop or before?
[12:28] <dietztho000> WOW!
[12:28] <khelll> how can i c the real sizes of all folders in my home direcotry?
[12:28] <Sjimmie> cd ~; du -sch *
[12:28] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: did you uncheck the "Activate..." box in 'System->Preferences->Screensaver'?
[12:29] <donald_> khell du -sh folder_name
[12:29] <zLoSteR> its unchecked
[12:29] <Isoplast> hlello guys
[12:29] <zLoSteR> in my session manager there is something like gnome-power-manager
[12:29] <donald_> are we all guys here?
[12:29] <lerio> donald: i think during the gdm it restarted 6 times and says theres something wrong
[12:29] <zLoSteR> if i remove him
[12:29] <zLoSteR> does it work ?
[12:29] <Isoplast> and girls ;)
[12:29] <donald_> lerio: video problems
[12:30] <Isoplast> do you also have the problem connecting to icq?
[12:30] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: you caould try unchecking it instead of removing it
[12:31] <Isoplast> ah now its working again ;)
[12:31] <lerio> donald: i set the shared video to PEG>>>128Mb
[12:31] <donald_> lerio: long time since i booted a live CD. try to set video settings at the boot Ubuntu screen
[12:31] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: in the screensaver app, did you move the sliders all the way to the right in "Power Management"?
[12:31] <zLoSteR> i will uncheck it ..but did i have to restart CPU
[12:31] <zLoSteR> yes
[12:31] <zLoSteR> its set to never
[12:32] <donald_> lerio: that is before you press Enter to "Start or Install Ubuntu" there are some options at the bottom
[12:32] <Yonie> hey guys, can any1 help me route a connection?
[12:32] <rinaldi1> whats a good app for checking cpu temp etc?
[12:32] <monTree> anyone thinks bill gates should run for president? since he quit micro soft
[12:32] <zLoSteR> in about 10 minutes mi screen become black
[12:32] <zLoSteR> even when i watching movies
[12:32] <lerio> donald: ya i tried the safe video mode
[12:32] <zLoSteR> when no activity the screen went black :\
[12:32] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: are you sure it's not a setting in your monitor?
[12:33] <donald_> rinaldi: if u have fairly recent ACPI, "aptitude install sensors-applet"
[12:33] <family> hi all im thinking about buying a Asus Eee PC 4G surf laptop its not an ordinary laptop it uses a flash card as the hard drive i was wondering will ubuntu install on this?
[12:33] <zLoSteR> yes i am sure 100%
[12:33] <huwei> 100%?
[12:33] <donald_> family: some people have it working. i will try one tomorrow
[12:33] <Nermal> see I'm only 73%
[12:33] <zLoSteR> now i will try to uncheck this gnome-power-manager in my session list
[12:33] <zLoSteR> end reboot
[12:33] <Yonie> does anyone know how to route a connection?
[12:33] <donald_> lerio: looks like you tried everything...
[12:33] <zLoSteR> then see what will happen ;]
[12:33] <family> sounds good donald you know what im talking about right?
[12:34] <donald_> yes
[12:34] <donald_> family: might not be easy since 4GB is quite small
[12:34] <lerio> donald: do you think it is the video problem? and if it is will i use the pci video card?
[12:34] <family> i can get a 8 gig flash card
[12:34] <donald_> family: there are issues with wifi on EeePC. there are patches for the Atheros chip
[12:34] <Dr_willis> family,  there a ubuntu-eee thread at the eee web sites i recall. yes it can do it.
[12:35] <Dr_willis> family,  and no i havent done it. :) i cant afford an eee yet. saving up my Lunch $$$
[12:35] <dgjones> family, have you seen this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[12:35] <huwei> EeePC ? how much?
[12:35] <family> aww thank you
[12:35] <family> :)
[12:35] <family> 299
[12:35] <family> $299 us dollars
[12:35] <family> http://www.buy.com/prod/asus-eee-pc-2g-surf-7-notebook-sky-blue-intel-mobile-cpu-512mb-2gb/q/loc/101/206655758.html
[12:35] <huwei> 4GB?
[12:35] <family> not trying to advertise but this is what im looking at
[12:36] <family> oh thats the 2g
[12:36] <family> the 4g is like 399
[12:36] <donald_> abt US450 here for a 4G EEE PC
[12:36] <bod_> !enter | family
[12:36] <ubotu> family: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:36] <donald_> lerio: try an external VGA card
[12:36] <lerio> donald: theres no question about the text base installer but my downloaded installer has corrupt bootfiles and i have the slow inet connection..thats why am asking is my 7.10 32bit be installed to 64bit....
[12:36] <donald_> lerio: 32bit can definitely work on 64bit
[12:37] <family> wow donald you should hit amazon :) dirt cheap aright im off to do some reading then some homework
[12:37] <donald_> Lerio: and i doubt a P4 HT is actually EM64T capavle
[12:37] <family> thanks for the great input and fast responses i really love this channel :).
[12:37] <donald_> family: we're in Malaysia. shipping would kill us
[12:37] <bod_> :)
[12:38] <family> wow im sure. well maybe they have something strieght out of japan thats where there made never know
[12:38] <Pici> !offtopic | family
[12:38] <ubotu> family: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:38] <huwei> actually,P4 HT is not good
[12:38] <donald_> Asus is from Taiwan
[12:38] <huwei> yes
[12:38] <family> Pici sorry im off to reading, everyone back on topic :)
[12:38] <donald_> i have a Fujitsu U1010 from Japan and it runs Ubuntu great
[12:39] <huwei> i like ibm
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> MACINTOSH FTW!!!!11!11!1!
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> thsfdg
[12:39] <donald_> huwei: P4 HT works ok with Ubuntu. i have one works great
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> fdgdfsg
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> fdgdfsgdfs
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> gfdgdsafg
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> ghsfdgh
[12:39] <aiwa> hi guys, what about acer?
[12:39] <donald_> aiwa: run away from Acer
[12:39] <lerio> donald: this was delivered from saudi and my bro-n-law assembled it for me....i got problems with this machine lately in installing 64bit 7.04 live cd bcoz it cant detect the sata drive but the text base installer has no problem except my corrupted installer then maybe i can make some remedy to 7.10
[12:39] <bod_> !enter | Gr34t3st
[12:39] <aiwa> why "donald?
[12:40] <huwei> acer ? cheap
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> oitgrhkfdl
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdghdfgdf
[12:40] <aiwa> ya
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdhdfsghdsfg
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdhgfdsgsfdg
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdsghdfsg
[12:40] <Gr34t3st>
[12:40] <rinaldi1> donald_: i installed sensors-applet but i can't find it or launch it from terminal when i type "sensors-applet"...
[12:40] <ubotu> Gr34t3st: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:40] <bod_> any ops/admin here?
[12:40] <donald_> lerio: u might have hardware problems. 7.04 can see SATA
[12:40] <aiwa> i have a fujitsu-siemens now, but it does not work well
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[12:41] <bod_> Pici, nice one dude
[12:41] <huwei> the quality  of acer  is not good or bad
[12:41] <donald_> rinaldi: right click on clear area in panel and add "Hardware Sensors Monitor"
[12:41] <aiwa> what about Fujitsu-Siemens?
[12:41] <rinaldi1> donald_: it says "no sensors found"...
[12:41] <donald_> huwei: Acer is rubbish. BenQ is worse
[12:42] <lerio> donald: ya your right and some forums says just switch the sata controller to ahci but no ahci mode in this mobo...text base installer was good but i got slow inet connection
[12:42] <dhavalp> no one to tell me that..how can i install ubuntu without formatting
[12:42] <dhavalp> ??
[12:42] <donald_> rinaldi: hardware spec?
[12:42] <Pici> dhavalp: You'll need to repartition your disk..
[12:42] <Pici> !dualboot > dhavalp (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:42] <rinaldi1> i got a core 2 duo 6300
[12:43] <donald_> lerio: Gigabyte boards arent really that good
[12:43] <huwei> not rubbish
[12:43] <donald_> rinaldi: try in terminal "sudo modprobe core-temp
[12:43] <aiwa> what is so good laptop?
[12:43] <donald_> aiwa: i use a Thinkpad X61. gotta love it!
[12:43] <Pici> If you want to talk hardware, please join ##hardware. #ubuntu is only for Ubuntu support.  Thank you.
[12:43] <huwei> ibm my love
[12:43] <rinaldi1> donald_: i get FATAL: Module core_temp not found.
[12:44] <aiwa> IBM is sold to Lenevo
[12:44] <huwei> but now it  is a part of lennove
[12:44] <donald_> rinaldi: Ubuntu on hard disk or liveCD?
[12:44] <huwei> Lenevo
[12:44] <aiwa> is it the same quality
[12:45] <rinaldi1> donald_: hard disk
[12:45] <huwei> only computer
[12:45] <Pici> !offtopic
[12:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:45] <donald_> rinaldi: very odd. ubuntu version?
[12:45] <huwei> not the same quality
[12:45] <ajricoveri> how do i change text resolution on plain text mode ???
[12:45] <rinaldi1> donald_: 7.10
[12:46] <aiwa> ok guys, now i have a ubuntu question
[12:46] <tdrusk> what's the name of the new remote desktop manager for hardy?
[12:46] <aiwa> i have successed to use wireless on ubuntu after 1 year
[12:46] <lerio> donald: well its alright if this mobo likes the text base installer...and i did some install options  like noapic nolapic and etc..still stuck to the xserver issue..but anyway gonna try the pci card
[12:46] <petros> wwwhotsexot kom
[12:47] <aiwa> but its signal is too weak in compare to XP
[12:47] <donald_> lerio: sorry i ran out of options
[12:47] <PeP`> http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iU4Lq7tOR_WVOJLZ3IeRaIH03x6w w00t
[12:48] <PeP`> french gendarmerie goes ubuntu =D
[12:48] <donald_> rinaldi: u may need to try out for hardware sensors
[12:48] <bazhang> PeP`: interesting but offtopic
[12:48] <orgthingy> hello
[12:49] <orgthingy> how can I view hidden files?
[12:49] <roelb> ls -alh
[12:49] <lerio> donald: its alright actually that pci card never comes to my mind before you told me to try...thanks thas a big help for me...and thanks for your time
[12:49] <Ogedei> what is the recommended way to prevent a service (say postgresql) from starting up automatically, without actually uninstalling it? (update-rc.d insists on deleting the /etc/init.d file)
[12:49] <dhavalp> Pici : so is there no other way out like we do in windows....to upgrate or reinstall on the installed partition ?
[12:49] <PeP`> bazhang: terribly sorry, I thought it might be interesting to tell people in #ubuntu what was just decided three hours ago... :)
[12:49] <donald_> rinaldi: u need to install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect to locate hardware sensor type
[12:50] <aiwa> I have Atheros wireless, but it is weak in compare to XP, is there anyway to improve it?
[12:50] <roelb> Ogedei, when a file is in init.d it does not mean it is started, it is a startup script, to actually start it , it should be in the runleven directories (etc/rc0-6.d)
[12:50] <bazhang> PeP`: better in #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[12:50] <donald_> ogedei : install BUM
[12:50] <Pici> dhavalp: If you put your /home on a separate partition you can tell it not to format that.
[12:50] <soundray> Ogedei: update-rc.d doesn't delete the script in /etc/init.d -- only the references to it in the startup directories.
[12:51] <donald_> aiwa: just because XP says u got a good signal doesn't mean it's at 100%
[12:51] <RomeReactor> orgthingy: in Nautilus press CTRL+H; from the terminal do as roelb said: ls -alh
[12:51] <PeP`> th
[12:51] <PeP`> x
[12:51] <aiwa> donald, i can also experience that
[12:51] <orgthingy> ty
[12:52] <Ogedei> soundray: I was afraid to give it the -f switch, but apparently that was what I wanted. thanks!
[12:52] <cybergig> Morning
[12:52] <huwei> xp   or   vista
[12:52] <Jockeo> In OpenOffice SpreadSheet, how do I make e new line inside a text cell?
[12:52] <huwei> you choose
[12:52] <soundray> Jockeo: Ctrl-Enter
[12:53] <abcd> hi to all ..how to use biometrika fx2000 scanner on ubuntu what software is require i compiled driver for that it is working..but i dont know how to test it
[12:53] <Jockeo> soundray: Tried that, doesn't work...
[12:54] <soundray> Jockeo: then you have a strange keyboard. It works here
[12:54] <Ogedei> is there a system-wide configuration option for enabling colors in the console? (preferably including the boot messages)
[12:54] <Jockeo> soundray: ok thx, then I'll try it in another spreadsheet.
[12:55] <RomeReactor> abcd: did you try 'Applications->Graphics->Xsane'?
[12:56] <Jockeo> soundray: Thanks now it works. I hadn't formatted the cell as "text" (just typed text into it)
[12:56] <donald_> abcd: fingerprint scanner?
[12:56] <dhavalp> hmm ok thanks a lot PICI :)
[12:57] <soundray> Jockeo: hmm, so it has to be text... good to know.
[12:58] <Jockeo> soundray: Well it seems to work with some other formattings too (others than text). Maybe I'd formatted that specific cell in a strange way.
[12:59] <Jockeo> But after all, now it works :)
[12:59] <huwei> do you like china?
[12:59] <Pici> !offtopic | huwei
[12:59] <ubotu> huwei: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:00] <donald_> huwei: u in the wrong place. and yes, good china is always welcome. dinner and tea sets.. especially bone china
[13:00] <Arelis> Which CD can i best use to install Ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[13:01] <Arelis> Also, i'm using virtualbox. It's very slow. can i speed it up?
[13:01] <donald_> Arelis: alternate CD is always best for me
[13:01] <bazhang> depends largely on your computer arelis
[13:01] <donald_> Arelis: more RAM helps
[13:01] <abcd> donald:yes
[13:01] <zLoSteR> RomeReactor,
[13:01] <huwei> sorry
[13:01] <Arelis> donald_: for some reason the livecd refuses to start. I get to the menu screen, press enter.. then it crashes
[13:01] <abcd> donald:it is fingerprint scanner by biometrka
[13:02] <abcd> biometrika
[13:02] <donald_> Arelis: get the live CD
[13:02] <zLoSteR> still nothing .. any other ideas ?
[13:02] <SpookyET> hi
[13:02] <donald_> abcd: names differ but chipset?
[13:02] <Arelis> donald_: for some reason the livecd refuses to start. I get to the menu screen, press enter.. then it crashes
[13:02] <donald_> Arelis: sorry. i meant alternate Cd
[13:02] <bazhang> Arelis: how much ram did you give it?
[13:02] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: other than uninstalling the screensaver, no; sorry.
[13:02] <Arelis> bazhang: 256MB
[13:03] <donald_> Arelis: how much RAM do u have total
[13:03] <Arelis> donald_: 768MB ram
[13:03] <zLoSteR> well i'am using xgl
[13:03] <Zhaozhou> Is it possible to make a kind of gateway with only one interface?
[13:03] <donald_> give it more.. try 384
[13:03] <bazhang> arelis 512 would be better
[13:03] <abcd> donald:fx2000  how to find out any command?
[13:03] <zLoSteR> can the problem be from there somewhere ?
[13:03] <donald_> abcd: usb ?? try lsusb with scanner plugged in
[13:04] <RomeReactor> abcd: have you tried this?: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/54043/
[13:04] <Pici> zLoSteR: I've fixed this on my computer... let me see if I can think of what I changed.
[13:04] <huwei> 512 is enough . i think
[13:04] <zLoSteR> you mean for turning off monitor ?
[13:04] <zLoSteR> Pici,
[13:04] <zLoSteR> ?
[13:04] <Pici> zLoSteR: Yes.
[13:05] <abcd> donald:lsusb shows Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0c43:0200
[13:05] <Arelis> bazhang: Now it says "Failed to start the virtual machine Linux."
[13:05] <zLoSteR> i will very thankful
[13:05] <jbitkill> ARELIS: around 386MB is just enough to run it.
[13:06] <Pici> zLoSteR: I think I just turned off the screensaver entirely, I'm not at the same computer to check though.  Theres a checkbox in the screensaver preferences if I remember correctly to toggle turning on the screensaver when the computer is idle.
[13:06] <bazhang> Arelis: hmm; with that little ram I dont know how successful you will be using ubuntu in a vm
[13:06] <donald_> abcd: probably not supported in Linux yet
[13:06] <zLoSteR> well yes and i uncheck it
[13:06] <jbitkill> Arelis: r u using Virtual PC, these is problems using that
[13:07] <zLoSteR> so the screensaver is off
[13:07] <donald_> Arelis: i have run Ubuntu Hardy on as little as 256MB on VBoc
[13:07] <Arelis> bazhang: I got told i could run VMs just fine with AMD Athlon 2800+, ATI Radeon 9600, and 768MB ram
[13:07] <Arelis> jbitkill: Virtualbox
[13:07] <donald_> i mean VirtualBox
[13:07] <zLoSteR> but still its going black when is idle
[13:07] <zLoSteR> :\
[13:07] <bazhang> Arelis: with any distro?
[13:08] <abcd> RomeReactor:yes from that link i have downloaded but it is saying that scan failed
[13:08] <jbitkill> don't know a lot about virtualbox
[13:08] <ikonia> Arelis: you can run vm's with that kit, but their resources will be very limited
[13:08] <Pici> zLoSteR: I cant check here unfortunately... sorry :(
[13:08] <donald_> i have run SLED, Debian, Freespire, FreeBSD, Fedora on VBox.
[13:08] <zLoSteR> thanks anyway ;]
[13:08] <Arelis> bazhang: what did you say? my PC crashed
[13:09] <donald_> only thing wont install is Solaris
[13:09] <bazhang> vmware user here; vbox just does not like my computer
[13:09] <Arelis> how do i get vmware?
[13:09] <bazhang> from the repos
[13:09] <Arelis> !vmware
[13:09] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[13:09] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: try disabling ACPI in your BIOS or in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:09] <Arelis> !virtualization
[13:09] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[13:09] <donald_> zLoster: you may need to disable DPMS in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:10] <ikonia> Arelis: vmware is going to be an additional overhead on your virtualisation, just keep that in mind for your performance requirments
[13:10] <bazhang> arelis vmware-server is in the repos--it is what I use
[13:10] <donald_> i have tried VBox and Qemu. VBox is better
[13:11] <Arelis> ikonia: I require it to be as fast as a real PC, because i will use Ubuntu as my core OS, and run two os's on top of that, and do my daily work in those 2 virtual PC's.
[13:11] <ikonia> Arelis: that is not going to happen to be honest
[13:11] <donald_> Arelis: you sure that AMD can take all that and with only 768MB of RAM?
[13:11] <Arelis> donald_: they told me that in #windows
[13:11] <ikonia> Arelis: your host system is on the minimum or ram - and your two virtualied machines will be on the minium of ram - all will be slow
[13:12] <couguerd> gandalf.geeknode.org
[13:12] <zLoSteR> well
[13:12] <Arelis> ikonia: well as long as they work..
[13:12] <Arelis> which they right now don't
[13:12] <ikonia> Arelis: thats not what you said - you said you want them to perform as good as a normal PC which they won't, they will be very slow
[13:12] <zLoSteR> i am usign glx
[13:13] <donald_> zLoster: u may need to disable DPMS and also power saving for VGA in BIOS
[13:13] <bazhang> Arelis: you are trying to boot ubuntu in a vm on top of windows?
[13:13] <Arelis> bazhang: I am trying to boot two OS's on top of Ubuntu
[13:13] <donald_> if monitor goes blank, it's not the screensaver
[13:13] <zLoSteR> donald_,  is glx had something to do whit this
[13:13] <bazhang> ubuntu on top of ubuntu?
[13:13] <ikonia> Arelis: you are lacking ram and your cpu is quite slow. They will boot - but perform very slow
[13:13] <zLoSteR> some settings ? don't know exactly :D
[13:13] <donald_> Zloster: GLX works or doesn't work. nothing to do with screen blanking, unless u dont get a desktop
[13:14] <donald_> Arelis: maybe u are thinking Xen?
[13:14] <Arelis> donald_: tell me more, please.
[13:14] <donald_> Arelis: get more RAM first
[13:14] <bazhang> indeed
[13:14] <Arelis> don't have the money for that.
[13:14] <donald_> 768MB isn't a lot to play with VM
[13:15] <jbitkill> Arelis: im getting trouble with 1 virtualbox on 1gb, never mind 768mb
[13:15] <bazhang> Arelis: why do you want to boot ubuntu in a vm on top of ubuntu?
[13:15] <Arelis> jbitkill: I remember it worked with xubuntu on my pc. what you're saying is nonsense.
[13:15] <donald_> Arelis: if u can live with slowness, google Xen Ubuntu. there's a fairly good guide out there
[13:15] <Arelis> bazhang: Because when i do that, and do my daily work in the virtualized one, i can't screw up my core OS