[20:04] <mlabbe> ghlh: thanks, I am going to look into it as soon as I knock out another bug
[20:04] <zykotick9> mlabbe: pm-suspend would need sudo (aka root access) by default
[20:05] <joseluis64> Hello, I can't make the gtk applications to show its menubars in plasma-widget-menubar
[20:05] <joseluis64> I could before
[20:06] <mlabbe> zykotick9: bummer. is there some permission I could give a standard user to do this?   If you want to know why, it is because I am using a buildbot (remote build server) to wake and put a build slave to sleep to save power/heat.  The buildbot user just cannot be root.
[20:07] <zykotick9> mlabbe: it would be possible to configure sudo to NOT require a password for the specific pm-suspend command - but don't ask me how ;)  best of luck.
[20:08] <mlabbe> zykotick9: ah, cool, I don't think that would be too hard.  thanks!
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> mlabbe, A little research confirms that darn root need, sorry for any misinformation. ;)
[20:09] <mlabbe> wilee-nilee: np.
[20:09] <mlabbe> thanks for help
[20:17] <basheba> why is my system and flash sound so jacked up on ubuntu 13.04 Persice
[20:18] <basheba> RARING rather, sorry
[20:20] <bekks> !raring | basheba
[20:21] <basheba> oh mannn ok thanks
[20:22] <maxvi> hi everyone! how can I call switcher (like alt+tab) with touchpad in ubuntu 14.04
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> maxvi: might be something in compiz, like using the top of the screen to activate a click and drag through open windows
[20:23] <Exillia> hi peeps; my ubuntu install got interrupted mid upgrade and when i do sudo dpkg --configure -a, it'll start doing all the necessary. unfortunately this includes restarting cups at some point which gets stuck
[20:23] <Exillia> any ideas?
[20:24] <maxvi> SchrodingersScat: I've do it by in default configuration but I cannot reproduce it again ((
[20:24] <Exillia> last i checked, i didnt even own a printer ='P
[20:25] <theperfectpunk> I just upgraded the kernel module
[20:25] <theperfectpunk> Display went off as usual
[20:26] <theperfectpunk> Tried installing properietary drivers
[20:26] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop didn't work
[20:26] <theperfectpunk> Hung up at
[20:27] <theperfectpunk> Resolving server state
[20:27] <theperfectpunk> Using ubuntu 14
[20:28] <bekks> Which Ubuntu 14?
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> Kernel 12
[20:28] <bekks> Which 12?
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> 29
[20:28] <bekks> Can you state full versions please?
[20:28] <bekks> "29" is not a known version.
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> 3.13.0-29-generic
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> Ubuntu 14
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> 14.04 LTS
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> GNOME
[20:29] <tozen> theperfectpunk: sudo service lightdm stop ??
[20:29] <theperfectpunk> No gdm
[20:29] <theperfectpunk> M running gnome
[20:29] <tozen> ough..gnome
[20:29] <theperfectpunk> Trying to install nvidia properietary drivers
[20:30] <theperfectpunk> U guys encountered it?
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Here's what i dis
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Did
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> booted ubuntu
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Went to tty1
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Logged in
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop
[20:32] <ChogyDan> theperfectpunk: as was alluded to, gdm is gone.  It is lightdm now
[20:32] <theperfectpunk> And den restoring resolver state...
[20:32] <theperfectpunk> Lemme check wid lightdm
[20:32] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: does gdm tab complete?  or is it gdm3?
[20:33] <theperfectpunk> I used it wid previous kernels
[20:33] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop worked fine
[20:33] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: how are you installing nvidia drivers
[20:34] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: BTW, if you've added propritary graphics drivers, you either would need to reboot, or modprobe the approprate modules.
[20:34] <theperfectpunk> I need to stop the x server
[20:34] <newbie> hey
[20:34] <theperfectpunk> Ben64: stop the x server -> run bimary
[20:34] <theperfectpunk> Binary drivers
[20:34] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: that method is not supported here
[20:35] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: suod lightdm stop
[20:35] <theperfectpunk> I know but
[20:35] <k1l_> *sudo
[20:35] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop is
[20:35] <_1_Timmy> /j #defocus
[20:35] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: ya, using the nvidia.com driver, is a BAD idea.  <- it's a fast way to break your system.
[20:35] <Guest29522> i have to mount windows partition from ubuntu but it said windows partition is in unsafe mode i cannot open windows i dont know why. Is there something i can do for dealing with unsafe mode?
[20:35] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: but what? using the repository is supported, and doesn't break every kernel update
[20:35] <Ben64> Guest29522: boot back into windows, and run chkdsk twice
[20:36] <Guest29522> problem is i cannot boot windows it stucked
[20:36] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: gdm is no more. its lightdm since some time in ubuntu
[20:36] <Ben64> Guest29522: maybe ask in ##windows then?
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> Just don't wanna add too many repo
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> I installed gdm
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> M on gnome
[20:36] <Ben64> nvidia is in the default repositories
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> Gnome flavour of ubuntu
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: I recently tried ubuntu gnome remix and after an update gdm refused to work
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Nvidia drivers are ib xorg edgers
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> In
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: I would also suggest to stick with lightdm
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Ppa repo
[20:37] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: so there are nvidia and amd drivers in the ubuntu repo. no need for manual installing
[20:37] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: they are there as well, but they are most definitely in the default ubuntu repositories
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: yep either xorg edgers or oibaf
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Open source drivers aren't that good
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Especially nvodia
[20:38] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: the binary drivers are in the default ubuntu repositories...
[20:38]  * zykotick9 thinks the nouveau free drive is quite good - but perhaps not for gaming...
[20:38] <theperfectpunk> Ben64
[20:38] <Ben64> theperfectpunk
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> Do u know a boot parameter that will allow me not to start x sercer?
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> Server
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> At boot
[20:39] <zykotick9> !text | theperfectpunk
[20:39] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: you should stop doing this and install nvidia the normal way
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> The performance is worse
[20:39] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: be aware, you're breaking your system by installing that driver!!! you have been warned.
[20:39] <Ben64> no it isn't
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> I play dota 2 on steam
[20:40] <Ben64> its the same driver, you need to understand this
[20:40] <theperfectpunk> significant drop in frame ratea
[20:40] <theperfectpunk> M talking about noveau
[20:40] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: nvidia prop. driver is in the repo. install nvidia-current
[20:40] <djural> theperfectpunk: Ben64 is right ubuntu ships with noveau (open source) by default _and_ has the proprietary drivers in its repo
[20:40] <Ben64> the nvidia binary driver is in the repositories. i don't know why i have to say this so much
[20:41] <zykotick9> djural: nouveau is more then "open source" it's free!  ati can't say that.
[20:41] <djural> theperfectpunk: the biggest advantage is that packagers actually test the driver before shipping
[20:41] <Zenyhooubbit> hello! excuse me what's the command for completely uninstall a program on ubuntu 12.04?I want to delete also the program settings
[20:41] <djural> theperfectpunk: therefore never install drivers from manufacturers websites
[20:41] <djural> zykotick9: I'm sorry ;)
[20:41] <k1l_> Zenyhooubbit: apt-get purge package
[20:41] <Ben64> Zenyhooubbit: sudo apt-get purge <package>
[20:42] <theperfectpunk> Ok ben64
[20:42] <Zenyhooubbit> good thank you k1l and ben64 :)
[20:42] <theperfectpunk> Appending text isnt working
[20:42] <theperfectpunk> Any ideas
[20:42] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: install the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repositores and not have to deal with this every kernel update?
[20:43] <Exillia> for those wondering; my problem is fixed
[20:43] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: i've pasted debian's "why nvidia installer sucks" factoid to http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609787/ it applies to ubuntu as well
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> But for now i need to boot in my pc
[20:43] <Exillia> simply killed the cups start process => upgrade continues and simply nuked cups from orbit after upgrade finished
[20:43] <vilambit> why does mplayer top playing video but continue playing audio when i use remote pulse audio??
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> Without x server
[20:43] <vilambit> *stop
[20:43] <djural> theperfectpunk: you use 14.04 right?
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> I'll do what u said
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> Yeah
[20:44] <theperfectpunk> how to boot in text mode with no x server
[20:44] <djural> theperfectpunk: like someone mentioned before you need to get to the grub boot entry selection
[20:45] <djural> theperfectpunk: for grub2 you should hold down shift while booting
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, I'm getting kubuntu, wondering what version I should get
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> I like stability
[20:45] <djural> theperfectpunk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[20:45] <Asterisks> latest?
[20:45] <djural> heres the link
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> in my experience, ubuntu's latest versions are buggy as hell
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> is 14.04 pretty good
[20:46] <djural> Scriptonaut: 14.04 is awesome (I am using it as my daily driver)
[20:46] <Scriptonaut> cool, I'll get it then. 64-bit I assume?
[20:46] <jack-> trusty rules.
[20:46] <djural> theperfectpunk: after getting to the grub selection you press 'e' to edit it
[20:46] <theperfectpunk> Yeah then
[20:47] <theperfectpunk> It's set params..
[20:47] <djural> theperfectpunk: the param should be "text"
[20:47] <juanjo> ola
[20:47] <theperfectpunk> Instead of ubuntu?
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: no its in the kernel line
[20:48] <juanjo> alguien español
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: append it
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: but wait
[20:48] <theperfectpunk> I tried simply placing text below set params
[20:48] <theperfectpunk> Didn't work
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: so whats your problem _exactly_?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> !es | juanjo
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: you installed ubuntu 14.04 -> Unity or Gnome?
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> Gnome
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> Can't start the x sercer
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> have to install driver
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, This the gnome shell release?
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> Cant stop gnome x server frm terminal
[20:49] <djural> theperfectpunk: yes, but do you see the plymouth splash screen?
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> The paw?
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: yep
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Three dots
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Yeah
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: you should switch to a different tty?
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> In low res
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Yeah i can
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Switched to tty1
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: mhm
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: sou you can install the driver?
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> But as soon as i type
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> It says restoring resolver state
[20:51] <djural> theperfectpunk: forget about the gdm
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> In a a good looking terminal
[20:51] <djural> theperfectpunk: so how did you install the nvidia driver?
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> sudo
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> ./nvidiafile.run
[20:51] <djural> dear god :D
[20:52] <theperfectpunk> U want me to add repo now?
[20:52] <theperfectpunk> Can't remember it
[20:52] <djural> well we need to remove the old stuff
[20:52] <djural> god knows how
[20:52] <djural> well the best way to go is:
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, Had you used the drivers in the ubuntu repos, proprietary drivers are not suggested here.
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> I just want to know how to start ubuntu with no x server
[20:53] <djural> it wont help you
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> This is relevent in this irc server i think
[20:53] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: ahhh, not really a proprietary driver issue, the one in ubuntu repo is propritary as well.  it's the nvidia.com installer that is the issue.
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> Djural
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> I've tried it
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> Works everytime
[20:54] <theperfectpunk> Please any param to switch to text mode?
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, You can set the no X in /etc/default/grub and thanks for the last comment to me. Anyway carry on don't mean to interrupt. ;)
[20:55] <djural> theperfectpunk: yeah, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode
[20:55] <theperfectpunk> Lemme try it put
[20:55] <theperfectpunk> Oit
[20:55] <djural> theperfectpunk: change in /etc/default/grub
[20:55] <theperfectpunk> Out
[20:55] <djural> to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[20:56] <djural> dont forget sudo update-grub
[20:56] <jcstarken> cups questions I have shared my printer from ubuntu 12.04 and my mac sees it but when I try to print from mac it says auth needed what did I miss in the setup thank you
[20:58] <hellyeah> hey
[20:59] <hellyeah> ubuntu was just frozen
[20:59] <hellyeah> i dont know why i have to shut down my computer manually and start again
[20:59] <theperfectpunk> The driver started to install
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> Dunno why but hate doing it da easy way
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> Ben64
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> Djural
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> A warning
[21:01] <theperfectpunk> Failed to restore some backed up files/symlinks
[21:01] <theperfectpunk>  And or theur attributes
[21:01] <theperfectpunk> Hope it works
[21:02] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk seriously, you've made a bad choice, and it's NOT supported in #ubuntu
[21:02] <djural> theperfectpunk: yep, if you _must_ use recent nvidia prop drivers you atleast ppa's (xorg-edgers or oibaf)
[21:03] <djural> theperfectpunk: those are atleast packaged properly and wont annihilate your system
[21:03] <theperfectpunk> To tell the truth they don't always provide thr latrdt drivrrs
[21:03] <theperfectpunk> MAN IT WORKED
[21:04] <hellyeah> another question
[21:04] <djural> linus be praised
[21:04] <theperfectpunk> M BACK ON GDM xD
[21:04] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: today, yes.  but just wait until a kernel update...
[21:04] <djural> ans hes gone :D
[21:04] <hellyeah> i cannot boot windows but i have to mount windows partition got message unsafe mode is there way to handle unsafe more from ubuntu?
[21:06] <theperfectpunk> Now that i'vr found a solid way to closr the x server
[21:06] <theperfectpunk> I feel less likely to add those repo's
[21:06] <theperfectpunk> They and the prop drivers are da
[21:07] <theperfectpunk> Plus da repo are outdated
[21:07] <theperfectpunk> they never hav the latest drivee
[21:07] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: have you tried? sudo mkdir /media/windows; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows -o force
[21:08] <cmdswitch> where sda1 is your windows drive
[21:08] <hellyeah> let me check cmdswitch
[21:09] <hellyeah> cmdswitch:  this is what i got The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[21:10] <eryd> REGAIN lamrz n3vKrt:Y?4Fq05=
[21:10] <DrGrov> Hello everyone
[21:10] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows -ro force
[21:11] <DrGrov> Quick question, how can I enabled SSD trim in 13.10 64-bit? Can not seem to do it right at all. Having problems understanding how to do it correctly.
[21:12] <zykotick9> DrGrov: it's actually better, NOT to enable trim - and instead run fstrim on an occassional basis.
[21:13] <gstaniak> hi
[21:14] <hellyeah> cmdswitch:  can you give me last command again?
[21:14] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ah, do tell me more about that how to do it correctly then :)
[21:14] <gstaniak> in 14.04, can i set the session type for a user and have it start automatically, without choosing it on the login manager screen?
[21:14] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows -ro force
[21:14] <garbage_> hey guys.. got a problem: my laptop running 14.04 wont suspend on lid close. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state says its closed when i close it, and i have the settings set to "suspend" on lid close in the settings app. been googling for a while now and nothing worked so far :/
[21:15] <hellyeah> cmdswitch:  worked
[21:15] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: cool
[21:15] <zykotick9> DrGrov: DrGrov verify you have fstrim, if not it's in util-linux i believe.  you just run it, every couple of days / once a week type thing.  quite simple.
[21:16] <basheba> garbage_, can you create another power profile in the settings?  I ask b/c Kubuntu allows you to set your own power profile
[21:16] <zykotick9> DrGrov: be aware, additional steps are required, you have happen to be using encrypted-LVM.
[21:16] <zykotick9> s/you have/if you have/
[21:16] <garbage_> i don't think so.. there's ones for plugged in/not plugged in, tried both with same results basheba
[21:17] <DrGrov> zykotick9: I have to have encrypted-LVM?
[21:17] <DrGrov> zykotick9: But I reckon I have not used encrypted-LVM when I installed 13.10. How can I verify that before I get started?
[21:18] <basheba> are you on arch linux garbage_ ?
[21:19] <garbage_> ubuntu 14.04
[21:19] <zykotick9> DrGrov: sorry, off the top of my head, i forget what you need to do (i did it myself a little while ago)
[21:19] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, no worries. Let me know if you find that missing information there sometime, hopefully sooner rather than later :)
[21:19] <basheba> take a look at this garbage_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2068464
[21:22] <zykotick9> DrGrov: i found my notes, pasted to http://paste.debian.net/103893/
[21:23] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ah, thanks. Will look into that right away.
[21:23] <garbage_> basheba, that thread didnt really help
[21:23] <garbage_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609942/
[21:24] <garbage_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609946/
[21:24] <garbage_> so it's detecting it...
[21:24] <DrGrov> zykotick9: So your notes have it sorted out. I can not read it though completely.
[21:25] <redlance> How can I find out if I set my drive up with LVM?
[21:25] <bekks> redlance: Just run: sudo lvdisplay -C
[21:25] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Or let me put it this way. Your notes are too cleverly made :)
[21:27] <redlance> bekks, Okay, thanks.  It shows my root partition in the list, I assume that means my root is part of an LV?
[21:27] <zykotick9> DrGrov: they were made, prior to actually trying it - but they worked fine ;)
[21:27] <john_24> is it possible to use a different dhcp-server with a bridged interface?
[21:27] <bekks> redlance: Yes, check the output of "mount" as well. If it shows filesystems on "/dev/mapper/..." you are using LVM.
[21:27] <DrGrov> zykotick9: But can you do a more step-by-step explanation so I get it? ;)
[21:29] <redlance> bekks, Okay, thanks again.  This is on my media server, and I'm running out of room for my movies.  What do you think would be the best way to add another physical drive for more capacity?  I'd love to be able to make the new drive and the old drive both show up as one.
[21:30] <humanuser> Hey, I've Got a problem with a LaTeX package: When I compile it says: LaTeX Error: File `mathdesign.sty' not found
[21:30] <zykotick9> DrGrov: perhaps the simplified http://paste.debian.net/103894/ will help.
[21:30] <planetmaker> humanuser, then... install that style file?
[21:31] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ah yes, that makes it so much clearer. How do I run the fstrim then?
[21:31] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Or at least check if I have an encrypted LVM or not :)
[21:31] <garbage_> redlance, RAID 0 ?
[21:31] <humanuser> planetmaker, smart ;) Where can I get it from? And which one is the standard
[21:31] <garbage_> also anyone know anything about why my laptop wont suspend ;/
[21:32] <redlance> garbage_, I thought about RAID, in software but maybe LVM would be easier/better?
[21:32] <zykotick9> DrGrov: "sudo fstrim /" if you're / is on the SSD, if /home is as well, then "sudo fstrim /home" as well.
[21:32] <gruzzli> Glitch?
[21:32] <garbage_> i dont know much about lvm redlance , sorry
[21:32] <redlance> garbage_, Okay, thanks anyway.
[21:33] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, and just add those lines in the correct files then as you described?
[21:34] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Yes, my / is only on the 120GB SSD and /home is on my 1TB separate drive.
[21:34] <phirex> My laptop ran out of battery today, and since then my harddrive failed to mount. so i am now on a live USB. trying to fix it.. i tried imaging it with clonezilla but that didnt work, does anyone have any idea what i should try doing?
[21:35] <jcstarken> turned samba off still having the auth issue
[21:35] <zykotick9> DrGrov: then just do the / ;)  it'll tell you after running how much it's trimmed.  probably, once a week would be enough in most cases.  FYI, using this method, rather then adding trim as a file system option, maximises speed.
[21:35] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, I ran sudo fstrim / and now it seems to be working.
[21:35] <redlance> phirex, Can you look into the BIOS screen and make sure the drive shows up in there?
[21:35] <phirex> uhmmm it should be there,.. i can see it here
[21:36] <planetmaker> humanuser, I don't know the package, but http://www.ctan.org/ might have it :)
[21:36] <DrGrov> zykotick9: I have not trimmed it after middle/end of December when I got the new computer LOL
[21:36] <DrGrov> zykotick9: No wonder it takes time to do it ;)
[21:36] <phirex> but when i click it i get "Error mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/ubuntu/4602e446-d321-40f8-8f0e-19cd8da0a6d2"
[21:37] <trism> humanuser: looks like it is in texlive-fonts-extra
[21:37] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Did not show any output of what it trimmed :/
[21:37] <planetmaker> also... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-949293.html
[21:39] <zykotick9> DrGrov: oh, sorry, ya you need to use "fstrim -v /" to get the output, my bad.
[21:39] <redlance> phirex, Ok, can you open the disks tool and see how it shows up in there?  See if it thinks it has a faile system.
[21:39] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, I see. I can not redo it now anymore to see how much it actually trimmed? :(
[21:40] <redlance> phirex, faile = file
[21:40] <DrGrov> zykotick9: No worries, no need to apologize :)
[21:40] <cmdswitch> ls
[21:40] <raj> how do I make RtAlt not a compose key anymore? LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[21:41] <skinux> I'm curious, how does Ubuntu Software Center work? Is it technically a CVS or Git client??
[21:41] <zykotick9> DrGrov: an example http://paste.debian.net/103895/
[21:41] <phirex> redlance: where is it suppose to show? Partition type is Linux (bootable) - Contents: Ext4 version 1.0 - not mounted
[21:43] <zykotick9> skinux: neither, it is a front end to apt (with some propritary ubuntu stuff added)
[21:43] <redlance> phirex, Okay, that tells me that it thinks it has a EXT4 filesystem, which is good.  What does it say if you try to mount it using the disks tool?
[21:44] <phirex> redlance: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610037/
[21:44] <skinux> I've thought a few times about writing a program that would scour the web for ubuntu/debian packages and tarballs of things that aren't in repository. It would likely be a tedious task, though.
[21:44] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, thank you showing an example.
[21:45] <humanuser> planetmaker, thx for the link
[21:46] <humanuser> trism, Thanks! That's what I searched for. It worked.
[21:46] <zykotick9> skinux: fyi, your idea would NOT work out well... you'd get crazy broken dependencies
[21:46] <redlance> phirex, Hmmm, I don't suppose you have another machine that you could try mounting this drive in?
[21:47] <jcstarken> best way to share a printer from ubuntu to network
[21:47] <ubnoobtu> heyall. I am having a issue. If someone could help, thatd be neat. I recently begun using ubuntu, but I messed somewhere
[21:47] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: providing details often helps
[21:48] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: all on one line, and don't include my nickname in it
[21:48] <phirex> redlance: Well not really, its a dell laptop and i dont have any cables to try and connect it externally to another laptop or something.
[21:49] <ubnoobtu> Okay, Just making sure I was heard. This is my problem. I am using ubuntu 12.04, Its a fresh install. I want to connect my wireless card to it, but the card doesnt come with any linux drivers.
[21:49] <phirex> redlance: but why would this machine not be able to mount it..?
[21:49] <ubnoobtu> So how do I get the card turned on?
[21:49] <redlance> phirex, I was thinking about ruling out any hardware problems.
[21:50] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: find out what card it is "lspci | grep -i net" _might_ show you.  AND, you may find using 14.04 your card works OOTB.
[21:50] <phirex> redlance: I see, well no thats not an option but i dont think this machine is the issue... what else can i try?
[21:51] <ubnoobtu> I'd like to install then, huh.
[21:51] <redlance> phirex, Are you comfortable using the command line?
[21:51] <grimeton> hm, 12.04 boots where 14.04 doesn't
[21:51] <grimeton> interesting
[21:51] <phirex> redlance: as long as i'm given the commands to type in.. :)
[21:52] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: It isnt listed on the terminal, but the adapter is a WUSB54Gv2 linksys.
[21:52] <redlance> phirex, Open a command line window, and type "cd /media"
[21:52] <phirex> redlance: ok
[21:52] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: is that USB?  or in a laptop?  try "lsusb | grep -i net" perhaps.
[21:53] <redlance> phirex, Then do an "ls" and see if it shows anything
[21:53] <phirex> redlance: cdrom and ubuntu
[21:53] <redlance> phirex, Okay, are you currently running from CD or USB?
[21:53] <phirex> redlance: usb..
[21:54] <gartral> arrrgh MTP needs to burn a horrible death, how does ANYONE get crap on their phones now?!?
[21:54] <raj> how do I make RtAlt not a compose key anymore? LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[21:54] <redlance> phirex, Okay, try "sudo mkdir harddrive"
[21:54] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Nothing appears, Its an adapter for a PC
[21:55] <phirex> redlance: done
[21:55] <redlance> phirex, Okay, now do "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:55] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Ive done this once before. I have the windows driver on a flash drive now, I just dont remember how I got it working before.
[21:55] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: a usb adapter?  try "lsusb" and see if you see it.
[21:55] <redlance> phirex, And look for the section that lists the size of the drive that you are having trouble with
[21:56] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: There is it, Its listed. What should I post here?
[21:56] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: it's just one line right?  just paste it here.
[21:56] <phirex> redlance: sda1...
[21:57] <redlance> phirex, Okay, now try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/harddrive"
[21:58] <phirex> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[21:58] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Bus 081 device 082: ID 13b1:660a Linksys WUSB54G v2 802.11g adapter
[21:58] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Sorry man, i cant copypasta it because its on a seperate pc
[21:59] <SenorSenpai> how good is ntfs read/write support in 14.04?
[21:59] <sarahtron> Hello, apt-get update isn't grabbing recent packages e.g., openssl 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2.  I am on armhf and /etc/apt/sources.list has one line: deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ trusty main restricted universe multiverse  Is there something I am missing?
[21:59] <phirex> redlance: i entered dmesg | tail heres the output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610087/
[22:00] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: sorry, i'd search online for that WUSB54G & linux support or something.  I have no further knowledge for it's support.  best of luck!
[22:00] <trism> sarahtron: that update is in -security
[22:00] <redlance> phirex, Well, I could be wrong, but it looks to me like the file system on the drive is corrupt.
[22:00] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree; sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb; and a system reboot may fix it.
[22:01] <phirex> redlance: if thats the case, does it mean my data is doomed?
[22:01] <trism> sarahtron: also in -updates so you could add either trusty-updates or trusty-security (or better yet both)
[22:01] <zykotick9> phirex: if you're on a livecd, and that isn't mounted, you might want to try "sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1" replace sda1 with whatever it actually IS
[22:02] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I cant download anything on that pc, it isnt connected to the internet. how can I get it on a USB and then install from that?
[22:02] <sarahtron> trism: ah, thx.  trying now!
[22:02] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then can you get a wired connection going?
[22:02] <redlance> phirex, Most likely...sorry.  Again, I could be wrong..but the Read Error in the output of dmesg leads me to think it's either a file system issue or the drive it's self.
[22:02] <raj> yeesh, can I get some keybinding help?
[22:03] <redlance> phirex, But do try what zykotick9 suggested too
[22:03] <phirex> zykotick9: fsck.ext4: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1 Could this be a zero-length partition?
[22:03] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I cant, physical restrictions.
[22:03] <zykotick9> phirex: that doesn't sound good... are you sure it's sda1?
[22:03] <phirex> yes :(
[22:03] <jcstarken> printing issue sharing printer to network 12.04
[22:04] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: download package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download and transfer it to broken machine, then run the commands
[22:05] <phirex> there must be something i can do, i cant afford to lose that data :(
[22:06] <gartral> phirex: there's one last bastion of hope for you..
[22:06] <phirex> gartral: ....
[22:06] <gartral> phirex: and it's called testdisk.. though I warn you, it isn't the easiest to use
[22:06] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch:  Thanks. I'll be right back
[22:07] <phirex> gartral: is it on live cd or do i have to install it
[22:08] <zykotick9> phirex: fyi, testdisk tries to rescue partitions, another programe (included with testdisk) is called photorec - that tries to rescue files on a partition.  but i do second gartral's warning.
[22:09] <phirex> well if one of you have some experience with it and willing to walk me through it, i would highly appreciate it..
[22:09] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Okay, whats the commands again? To run it from the desktop?
[22:09] <ubnoobtu> sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree; sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb; and a system reboot may fix it.
[22:09] <ubnoobtu> opps, sorry, Ment to copypasta to notepad
[22:10] <kieppie> hi
[22:10] <kieppie> does anyone know of some sort of desktop suite for android?
[22:10] <redlance> But it looks like Testdisk will recover the partiton to another destination.  I don't think phirex has the room for that, unless he has an external drive handy.
[22:10] <phirex> redlance: i do have one connected..
[22:11] <redlance> phirex, Oh, alright.  Does it have enough free space to hold all the data from your sick drive?
[22:11] <phirex> yep
[22:11] <phirex> i have testdisk up and running
[22:12] <head_> hello
[22:12] <zykotick9> phirex: if you have more then one drive attached, are you 100% sure it's sda1?  NOTE, they change on boot... just because it's "
[22:12] <ubnoobtu> So how to install these drivers from a usb?
[22:12] <redlance> So to sum up, you currently have the USB stick that you are running from, the external drive, and the sick drive all connected?
[22:12] <head_> i have one big trouble;/
[22:12] <zykotick9> phirex: sorry, ENTER error -- normally" sda1 doesn't mean it is now!
[22:13] <phirex> zykotick9: sorry, what?
[22:13] <head_> i ereased xubuntu. And now i can not boot up mine ubuntu. I have Unity there still but i can not switch it
[22:13] <zykotick9> phirex: if you "sudo fdisk -l" (or "sudo parted -l" if you have GPT) does sda show the size you expect?
[22:14] <head_> when i want to launch ubuntu it says that it can not find xstartxface
[22:14] <head_> do some1 can help me?
[22:14] <phirex> zykotick9: yes. it does
[22:15] <zykotick9> phirex: ok...  BEST of luck.
[22:16] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: You there? I have gotten the file onto the PC, But I'm stumped, I ran the commands you told me, but it said unable to locate package
[22:16] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: if you have a DEB file on the new system, try "sudo dpkg -i THEFILE.deb"
[22:16] <jcstarken> head: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then run sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb;
[22:17] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then reboot
[22:17] <jcstarken> head_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:18] <phirex> zykotick9: well, i'm analysing the disk... but i dont really know what to expect
[22:18] <ubnoobtu> okay, stand by zykotick9 cmdswitch
[22:18] <head_> or diferent. How can i switch froum autologin into choosing account style while login? from root panel ( rescue option while booting?)
[22:18] <zykotick9> phirex: honestly, neither do i.  i tried testdisk once, several years ago - and it didn't work in my case.  photorec did, BUT, you loose all filenames!  HUGE pain, TBO.
[22:19] <zykotick9> head_: keep it in channel please.
[22:19] <phirex> better than nothing but i can see why it's annoying..
[22:19] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: zykotick9 It now said error processing linux-firmware-nonfree
[22:20] <head_> hmm... but i can not open that terminal normally only in root while rescue
[22:20] <ubnoobtu> can not access archive etc etc
[22:20] <jo-erlend> How well does LXC work with X guests? For instance, is it viable to install a browser and pipelight in a container and use this for things like Netflix? What about Wine gaming?
[22:20] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[22:22] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, for wine gaming, there is a database and support room, but online linux gaming is so much better, steam has 500 linux titles, and 10+ games free
[22:22] <gbb2> this may or may not be connected, but since my last apt-upgrade, the ctrl-v nolonger works and for some reason, Konversation (the IRC app) won't log in.  Rightclick paste does still work though.  Any idea where to start hunting?
[22:22] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, LXC was the main thing. I know Wine fairly well.
[22:23] <shachaf> If I want console vim that can access the X11 clipboard ("* and "+), is there an Ubuntu package I can install for it?
[22:24] <popolio> popo
[22:24] <jcstarken> head_: hold down the right shift button when you boot and it should give you a menu to where you can choose
[22:24] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[22:24] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, yes, but it doesn't answer my question.
[22:24] <popolio> kilo
[22:24] <popolio> milo
[22:24] <popolio> jilo
[22:24] <popolio> gulio
[22:24] <jo-erlend> popolio, please stop that.
[22:24] <popolio> ok
[22:24] <RMYC> why is cairo-dock so buggy?
[22:24] <PeErLesS> how do I list all gtk3 applications that I have installed?
[22:25] <shachaf> OK, the answer is "install vim-gnome" (or vim-gui-common or something), even if I'm not using the graphical version.
[22:25] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: still nothing, its telling me error processing linux-firmware-nonfree_1.8_all.deb cannot access archive:: nosuch file or directory. wrrors were encountered while processing
[22:26] <jcstarken> RMYC:while cairo-dock has exciting opengl features it is simply buggy with opengl.
[22:26] <skinux> How can I properly check if DictReader has been successful or not? Set it to a variable and check that variable for False?
[22:26] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: are you in the directory in which you downloaded the file?
[22:26] <trism> jo-erlend: stgraber mentions here that he manages to run steam in it, so you'll probably be fine, https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/
[22:26] <zykotick9> shachaf: personally, i use highlight section, then middle mouse click (wheel click) for copy/paste into consoles YMMV
[22:26] <ubnoobtu> pardon? How do you mean?
[22:26] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, you can use apt-rdepends, if you figure out which package provides gtk3 :)
[22:27] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: cheers
[22:27] <shachaf> zykotick9: But then you need to :set paste or something.
[22:27] <zykotick9> SchrodingersScat: sorry, i should have said consoles - into terminals i mean.
[22:27] <shachaf> And you need to disable mouse integration (:set mouse=) when you want to copy text out of vim.
[22:27] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: if your file is at /var/myfiles/package.deb, is your console at /var/myfiles/ ?
[22:27] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, there seems to be an updated version https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/stable?field.series_filter=trusty
[22:28] <zykotick9> shachaf: doubt DOH.  nicktab fail, followed by s/should/shouldn't/
[22:28] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I am a scrub here, I am trying to learn, but I still dont understand. My terminal says snackman@snackman.
[22:28] <jo-erlend> trism, ah, great! Thanks. I just remembered that series :)
[22:28] <ubnoobtu> err snackman@snacktime
[22:28] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: ok, is the file you downloaded on a usb key?
[22:28] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Was, but then I draged it over to the desktop
[22:29] <PeErLesS> Has anyone here managed to launch eclipse with gtk3 broadway?
[22:29] <jcstarken> PeErLesS: echo 'n' | apt-get remove -s libgtk-3-0 , this will remove them all if you except, but atleast this way you can see them all
[22:29] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: ok type "cd Desktop"
[22:29] <PeErLesS> jcstarken: thanks
[22:29] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, the question was really whether I could install desktop applications in a container without getting VNC-like performance. It seems to be possible, so I'm fairly enthusiastic right now. :)
[22:29] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then type "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[22:29] <wrenny> how can I turn off dual screens in Ubuntu
[22:29] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Okay. It says bash:cd: desktop no such file or directory
[22:30] <RMYC> ya i really love cairodock but it sure is buggy
[22:30] <RMYC> with opengl
[22:30] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: try "cd ~\Desktop" (case is important)
[22:30] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: same error as before
[22:30] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, via vnc .. not really a best performance way, gigabit network perhaps
[22:30] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, I don't think the Broadway backend was ever added to Ubuntu. I'm not certain, so don't trust me. But if I recall correctly, it was mostly a hobby project that never went very far. It may have been further developed though. I don't know.
[22:31] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: hobby project or not.. it is brilliant :)
[22:31] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: As you typed it, I put it in, and nothing but the same error
[22:31] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, I _didn't_ want VNC. I wanted real graphics. Seems promising. :)
[22:31] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, sure looks nice, though I've never tried it myself. Have you been able to use it in Ubuntu?
[22:31] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: what does your prompt say now?
[22:31] <jcstarken> wrenny: system setting/display
[22:32] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: type pwd
[22:32] <Titussss> Ty for help guys:) it worked:)
[22:32] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: yeap! just google: ubuntu gtk3 broadway for the ppa, works fine for me
[22:32] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, ah, cool! I'll have to try that some day :)
[22:32] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: /home/snackman
[22:32] <wrenny> how can I turn off dual screens in Ubuntu
[22:33] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: however.. i was unable to launch complex applications such as Eclipse
[22:33] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: type "cd /home/snackman/Desktop/"
[22:34] <jo-erlend> ubnoobtu, or "cd ~/Desktop"
[22:34] <ubnoobtu> okay, its now snackman@Snacktime:~/Desktop$
[22:34] <jcstarken> wrenny: I answered you go to system settings then display
[22:34] <wrenny> k thnks
[22:34] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: now type "sudo dpkg -i package_name_goes_here.deb"
[22:35] <zykotick9> cmdswitch: you typoed the slash origionally: try "cd ~\Desktop"
[22:35] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch:  okay, lets see if this works
[22:35] <cmdswitch> replacing the package name with the actual name
[22:35] <jo-erlend> ubnoobtu, you can use the tab key to auto-complete file-names.
[22:35] <wrenny> any built in utils with Ubuntu to control my internal fans ??
[22:36] <ubnoobtu> FRACKIN A, IT WORKED, THANK YOU cmdswitch and jo-erlend !!!!
[22:36] <ubnoobtu> That tab trick was new to me
[22:36] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb;
[22:36] <cmdswitch> and then reboot to see if that fixes your issue
[22:36] <jo-erlend> ubnoobtu, kind of awesome, right? There are lots of tricks like that which you won't be able to live without once you get used to them. Pressing ctrl+r for instance, allows you to search for commands you've used in the past. :)
[22:38] <sam_> I'm new to Kubuntu I'm trying to setup virtual desktops...i have changed it to 4 but it doesnt show anywhere so i can switch desktops by clicking etc
[22:39] <ubnoobtu> okay new problem cmdswitch I did the first command and it comes back with FATAL module ndiswrapper not found
[22:39] <cmdswitch> ok
[22:39] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: so do the next
[22:39] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch:  ok
[22:39] <jcstarken> wrenny:Configuration of installed PWM-capable fans can be done with the script pwmconfig. Run sudo pwmconfig and follow the instructions carefully. The output of pwmconfig is a config file containing the definitions of which temperature sensor controls which fan.
[22:40] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: i pressed enter, and nothing has happened.
[22:40] <samthewildone> when watching movies in fullscreen the videos sometimes tear or jitter.
[22:40] <sam_> can anyone help please?
[22:41] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: should I continue with the final command?
[22:41] <samthewildone> sam_, whats up ?
[22:41] <wheatthin> samthewildone, do you have properietary drivers installed?
[22:41] <cmdswitch> unboobtu: that's ok, run the last one
[22:41] <sam_> I'm new to Kubuntu I'm trying to setup virtual desktops...i have changed it to 4 but it doesnt show anywhere so i can switch desktops by clicking etc
[22:41] <samthewildone> wheatthin, I would think so.
[22:41] <samthewildone> when I run that flgxinfo it gives me the driver from ati
[22:41] <jcstarken> looking to printing help
[22:42] <wheatthin> samthewildone, also, are you using chromium?
[22:42] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: alright, so do I continue with the reboot, because neither of the final commands issued a reply or whatever.?
[22:42] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: go ahead and reboot
[22:42] <samthewildone> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/H0aLL8sC
[22:43] <samthewildone> wheatthin, well I'm talking about movies on my hard drive
[22:43] <samthewildone> wheatthin, as for full screen videos in chromium it plays perfectly fine.
[22:43] <samthewildone> It only comes to movies / videos on the hard drive
[22:44] <ubnoobtu> okay, if this works, this next problem should be easier. I am running this PC on my hdmi tv, as I dont have any monitors around to plug into. The problem is the window is too small? like the edges of the desktop go outside of the screen?
[22:44] <wheatthin> ok.. so I would think you needed to enable gpu accelerated decoding or whatever, I suppose you're using vlc?
[22:44] <Titussss> Hello i have one big problem
[22:45] <samthewildone> nope
[22:45] <samthewildone> let me check
[22:45] <Titussss> after instalation of xubuntu-desktop mine logon screen changed int xfce4 one.
[22:45] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: did you adjust the display settings?
[22:45] <Titussss> mine primary system is ubuntu 14.04 with unity
[22:45] <angelica> Hi all, anyone knows how to fix an unstable wifi connection? I am connected through an USB adapter, here is some info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608963/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609480/
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Titussss, This a autologin?
[22:45] <Titussss> yes it is
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> Titussss, Last desktop run defaults to the auto login, and xfce unity or xubuntu is in a dropdown at login.
[22:46] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I have before, but each res still doesnt help the problem. I fixed it once before by using some nvidia drivers, but it fudged my PC up so I couldnt enter the home window to open programs, which is why I am doing this all over from scratch
[22:47] <Titussss> and btw how to change this setting to login with password and selecting user?
[22:47] <sam_> I'm new to Kubuntu I'm trying to setup virtual desktops...i have changed it to 4 but it doesnt show anywhere so i can switch desktops by clicking etc
[22:47] <ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: Whats up man, Your the guy that helped me with this problem once before!
[22:47] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: I cant help with that
[22:47] <samthewildone> sam_, add it to the taskbar
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> Titussss, THat is a new question you had not addressed
[22:47] <helpy> Hello Everyone.
[22:47] <sam_> How? lol
[22:47] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Yea, I think its because the card I am using is unsupported
[22:47] <zykotick9> sam_: #kubuntu may be able to help better?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, Doing good, thanks.
[22:48] <helpy> i am having trouble installing ALFA ASUWo36NHR  wireless adapter.
[22:48] <helpy> trying to run ./install i get permission error
[22:48] <sam_> Kubuntu are asleep
[22:48] <cmdswitch> helpy: sudo install ....
[22:49] <helpy> i did
[22:49] <helpy> i get a long error log
[22:49] <helpy> where do i paste it ? :D
[22:49] <cmdswitch> helpy: what's the error?
[22:49] <helpy> lots of them
[22:49] <sam_> i worked it out
[22:49] <felix_lucid> the Lucid kernel update in the last day or so causes GDM freezes on at least two machines. Is this something others have seen?
[22:49] <sam_> just added a widget
[22:49] <Zekka> Hey, is there a way I can globally disable menu icons in 12.10? Let me know if this is a better question for #gtk or #gnome.
[22:49] <helpy> can i pm you with the log ?
[22:49] <sam_> thanks
[22:50] <cmdswitch> helpy: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:50] <helpy> roger
[22:50] <Zekka> Googling only found very old results
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> felix_lucid, THis a server?
[22:50] <ubnoobtu> Can someone help me fix my display, The size of the display is messed up, its too wide and tall, and goes outside the screens area. I would like to just adjust it though
[22:50] <kieppie> OK - let's try this again: does anyone know of some sort of desktop suite for android on Linux/Ubuntu?
[22:50] <felix_lucid> Lucid desktop 64-bit
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> felix_lucid, end of life support is over, time to upgrade.
[22:51] <helpy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610299/
[22:52] <Titussss> any1 can explain me how to restore unity logon screen after installing xubuntu-desktop. Mine linux is Ubuntu 14.04 .
[22:52] <cmdswitch> helpy: sudo make clean; sudo make; sudo make install
[22:52] <felix_lucid> wilee-nilee, no can do. Sigh. Weird, though. First time I've ever had a glitch in keeping OS's up to date in serveral years. And I try to get collegues to OK updating machines in field (medical) but they insist you can't change a machine because you might break it.
[22:52] <helpy> No targets specified
[22:53] <helpy> there is no make file in the folder only install.sh
[22:53] <helpy> readme file is of no help
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> felix_lucid, bummer, just that technically no support, does not mean none will happen, just be prepared for the scenario your in to be addressed here. ;)
[22:54] <helpy> http://www.alfa.com.tw/press_c_show.php?sn=5
[22:54] <helpy> this is the driver i downloaded
[22:54] <helpy> i am on 14.04
[22:54] <wheatthin> install.sh should generate a makefile
[22:54] <cmdswitch> helpy: have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1848668 ?
[22:54] <Titussss> wilee-nilee,  can u tell me how to solve mine probl?
[22:54] <Zekka> If anyone responds to my question, please highlight me by using my nick -- going to be on a different tab but if you say my name I should see it
[22:54] <helpy> in principal yes, its just it won't run in the first place
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> helpy, Could we see a pastebin of lsb_release -a
[22:55] <ubnoobtu> Is there anyway to get to the nvidia driver control panel? I adjusted the settings in there once before years ago
[22:55] <ubnoobtu> months*
[22:55] <varikonniemi> how do i get an alias to accept additional parameters?
[22:56] <varikonniemi> alias a="sudo apt-get"
[22:56] <varikonniemi> how can i make it work like: a update
[22:56] <helpy> sure wilee-nilee hang on
[22:56] <varikonniemi> a upgrade
[22:56] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: i'd suggest asking in #bash, those guys/gals are hardcore ;)
[22:56] <helpy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610318/
[22:57] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: i suspect they're gonna recommend using something other then alias
[22:57] <jcstarken> Really looking for some help with printer sharing 12.04
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> helpy, Thanks, just your link said backtrack 5, just confriming 14.04 is actually used. ;)
[22:58] <ubnoobtu> Anyone familiar with Nvidia?
[22:58] <helpy> its just the computer name :)
[22:58] <wheatthin> varikonniemi, you use a variable with an alias...
[22:58] <helpy> backtracks wont even recognize my wireless usb dongle
[22:58] <braindrop> hey I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 server and it hangs at the "detecting network hardware" dialog
[22:58] <helpy> its good to be back on ubuntu after years, lots of improved. still it takes heck of a time to figure out things :) which can also be fun
[22:58]  * zykotick9 notes backtrack is dead
[22:58] <braindrop> can anyone help?
[22:59] <braindrop> This is on hardware that has been running 10.04 for 3 years without an issue
[22:59] <wheatthin> braindrop, is it console based?
[22:59] <ubnoobtu> kali seems pretty cool
[22:59] <braindrop> wheatthin: yes, server
[22:59] <wheatthin> kali is backtrack just renamed :P by that's offtopic
[22:59] <helpy> ubnoobtu,  is it ? is that any better with hardware?
[22:59] <helpy> i know. i have it loaded in downloads :)
[23:00] <zykotick9> wheatthin: is ubuntu just debian but renamed... i hardly think so.
[23:00] <helpy> see how it works. Backtrack is a pain with hardware atleast or lets say for a noob like me
[23:00] <ubnoobtu> helpy: I dont know stuff about it other than my ethical hacker course mentioned it
[23:00] <wheatthin> lol.. a customized distro isn't always coded by the distributor .. lol
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> helpy, I would get a usb wifi that plugs and plays, amazon has many listed with works in linux, many are less than 10$
[23:00] <helpy> it does exactly that in windows wilee-nilee
[23:01] <varikonniemi> wheatthin, what does it mean?
[23:01] <helpy> it should do that in linux also? :)
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> helpy, windows working is not relative here is all. ;)
[23:01] <cmdswitch> helpy: ubuntu != windows
[23:01] <helpy> true that.
[23:01] <helpy> what i probably wanted to say that it IS plug and play
[23:01] <ubnoobtu> Anyone familiar with Nvidia? I want to my a config file and adjust the screen, but I dont remember/know how
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> helpy, Tell that it should work to the manufacturers so the actually make drivers.
[23:01] <wheatthin> varikonniemi, could be a prompt that you're not seeing.. like  NTP when they set the clocks and region
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> they*
[23:02] <Marduk666> hi everyone.... lately I've been experiencing weird issues detecting my USB drives.. I have the external HD plugged into the usb port also a USB stick.. but the computer is not recognizing any of them..... here is the output: http://bpaste.net/show/Kz6SPBikSf8KfXp3Cdg9/
[23:02] <helpy> wilee-nilee, actually it does have a unix folder staying on my desktop
[23:02] <helpy> does install it though
[23:02] <Marduk666> or pastebin if you prefer: http://pastebin.com/ByznH198
[23:02] <helpy> ubuntu installed the same usb without a hitch
[23:02] <helpy> backtrack didnt.
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> helpy, You are making very little sense, but it is not my issue, best of luck. :)
[23:02] <helpy> so i guess backtrack 5 < ubuntu
[23:03] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/302518/how-to-get-an-nvidia-control-panel
[23:03] <jcstarken> why does cups keep dropping printer, so what should I use instead
[23:03] <wheatthin> helpy that's a really not so good way to look at things lol.
[23:03] <helpy> umm what :s
[23:04] <wheatthin> saying one is greater.. I believe we have much better, active support than any other distro (just about) ;).. so saying a dead distro is greater is not so good
[23:04] <helpy> i just said that i am connected with my usb wireless device in ubuntu without a problem. it ran out of the box. in backtrack it didnt
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> jcstarken, With the apple computer right?
[23:04] <wheatthin> k
[23:04] <helpy> wheatthin correct :)
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> on a network
[23:04] <helpy> anyways cmdswitch did you have a look on pastebin link?
[23:04] <helpy> any suggestions?
[23:05] <jcstarken> wilee-nilee: printer on ubuntu12.04 shared can see it from mac but get auth error yes thank you
[23:05] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Thank m8. I am getting ogg of here, ill be back on the machine in a second.
[23:05] <cmdswitch> helpy: I'm outta answers for you
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> jcstarken, Be careful to ask the questions with the details that matter.
[23:05] <helpy> ok thanks anyways. appreciate it.
[23:06] <dhaval2712> Hello.
[23:06] <braindrop> It worked if I boot with 'noapic' but what do I lose by disabling this?
[23:06] <dhaval2712> Hey, what is the equivalent of systemd-analyze blame in Ubuntu?
[23:07] <Marduk666> hi everyone.... lately I've been experiencing weird issues detecting my USB drives.. I have the external HD plugged into the usb port also a USB stick.. but the computer is not recognizing any of them..... here is the output: http://bpaste.net/show/Kz6SPBikSf8KfXp3Cdg9/
[23:08] <jcstarken> wilee-nilee: what other details do you need? type of network= wireless, ubuntu 12.04 host machine, guess machine imac 27" 10.6.8
[23:08] <cmdswitch> braindrop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52096/what-do-the-different-boot-options-mean-i-e-acpi-off-noapic-nolapic-etc
[23:09] <braindrop> I saw that, but it doesnt talk at all about what you lose by disabling them
[23:09] <dhaval2712> Hello?
[23:09] <braindrop> also, I never had to disable these things when I installed 10.04, same hardware... so I'm confused
[23:10] <samthewildone> wheatthin, how do i set vlc as my main video player ?
[23:10] <wheatthin> open nautilus and right click on properties, and open with set default
[23:11] <claudio> is there a simple way to add cinnamon to debian
[23:11] <wheatthin> right click on the movie filetype
[23:11] <dhaval2712> Hey what's the equivalent of systemd-analyze blame in Ubuntu?
[23:11] <samthewildone> got it thanks
[23:12] <claudio> is there a simple way to add cinnamon to debian?
[23:12] <blindrage> i'm having a strange issue. i'm running linaro on an arm device (udoo)
[23:13] <wheatthin> linaro?
[23:13] <blindrage> a few weeks ago, all was good and perfect, the internal sata drive went bad. just replaced it, put linaro back on
[23:13] <blindrage> 12.04
[23:13] <blindrage> i have a 4x sata to usb enclosure, works on windows, and it worked with this before i replaced the internal drive
[23:14] <blindrage> since the reload, the drive won't show up
[23:14] <blindrage> not sure where to start troubleshooting...sudo fdisk -l doens't show the drives in the enclosure, just my internal sata and the memory card that boots the arm device
[23:14] <wheatthin> blindrage, did you make sure the drive device is correct in fstab?
[23:14] <blindrage> desktop ubuntu and my windows box show up fine
[23:15] <blindrage> there's nothing in fstab
[23:15] <blindrage> except my swap partition
[23:15] <wheatthin> does it show up while using 'sudo fdisk -l'
[23:15] <wheatthin> without the quote
[23:15] <claudio> i've got a cinnamon in ububtu it's great
[23:15] <blindrage> nope, just mmcblk0 and sda
[23:16] <wheatthin> and it's an esata or usb to sata?
[23:16] <blindrage> sda is the internal drive, mmc is the memory card that starts the boot process (uboot)
[23:16] <blindrage> sata to usb
[23:16] <blindrage> probox4 to be excat
[23:16] <wheatthin> try upgrading kernel?
[23:16] <blindrage> and i know the udoo supports port multiplication since it worked before
[23:17] <blindrage> apt-get upgrade shows no eligable packages
[23:17] <dw1> claudio: why not ask in #debian
[23:17] <wheatthin> for 12.04 release?
[23:17] <blindrage> yea, arm version
[23:17] <wheatthin> hmm..
[23:18] <blindrage> i could always try their version of arch and see if maybe there's something missing from when they made their version arm compat
[23:19] <blindrage> i'm trying to avoid doing it over and over again
[23:19] <wheatthin> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[23:19] <claudio> thaks!!!
[23:20] <blindrage> update-manager not found, assuming it's not possible with this one
[23:20] <blindrage> it's not a pure ubuntu distro i'm guessing since ubuntu doesn't support arm out of the box
[23:20] <wheatthin> umm it should be installed either way
[23:21] <wheatthin> then check coninical repo and upgrade
[23:22] <wheatthin> canonical sorry
[23:29] <jackarius86> hi, how do i install the radeon driver?
[23:29] <jackarius86> i have just read a guide on how to do it but then i read somewhere else that fglrx is no longer used
[23:29] <jackarius86> and now i am confused
[23:30] <gruzzli> @jack your on ubuntu right?
[23:30] <jackarius86> yes
[23:30] <gruzzli> what card do you have?
[23:30] <jackarius86> radeon hd 3200
[23:31] <gruzzli> O.O thats an old boy.
[23:31] <jackarius86> yes :/
[23:31] <jackarius86> but it still will improve my graphics
[23:32] <gruzzli> i might not be able to help because, im using a 7850 and it auto  installed for me.
[23:33] <braindrop> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 server and it seems to only see one cpu core. I have an i7 3770. In 10.04, this showed up as 8 cores due to HT
[23:33] <braindrop> Can anyone help
[23:35] <zykotick9> braindrop: did you somehow install a non-pae kernel (if you use 32 bit)?
[23:36] <braindrop> it's 64-bit
[23:36] <braindrop> I installed the standard 14.04 server image
[23:36] <zykotick9> braindrop: never mind then ;)  good luck.
[23:36] <braindrop> :(
[23:37] <shaddowed> hello, can you integrate thunderbird lightning with ubuntus date time indicator? if not what calendar do you guys recommend that works well on ubuntu
[23:38] <OerHeks> braindrop, how do you tell there is only one core?
[23:38] <OerHeks> use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[23:39] <braindrop> htop only shows one, where it normally shows many, and a single stress thread maxes it to 100%... I also took a look at lshw output and did not see multiple cpus, just one
[23:41] <rvgate> Hello, i was wondering if all the hardware in this desktop is fully supported: http://tweakers.net/gallery/121456?inv_id=299449#tab:inventaris (click Desktop) my main concern is the webcam (C525), the videocards (2x HD6950) running in crossfire and the 5.1 headset that connects using SPDIF and USB... would this all run flawlessly or are there some expected issues?
[23:41] <OerHeks> braindrop, what does lscpu say?
[23:42] <braindrop> 1 cpu, 1 core per socket, 1 thread per core
[23:43] <braindrop> all wrong...
[23:43] <braindrop> :(
[23:43] <braindrop> This is a fresh install of 14.04 server on a new SSD
[23:44] <braindrop> If I boot into 10.04 on the old HDD, it works completely
[23:45] <OerHeks> braindrop, now i have no idea anymore :-(
[23:45] <EzeQL> hi, wifi adapter gone after accepeting lastest update from 14.04. What can i do?
[23:46] <braindrop> the L3 cache is also disabled according to lshw... what the heck...
[23:52] <FmRUF> print sharing issues on network,printer connected to 12.04 osx machines on network can see the printer from osx but get a auth error everytime trying to print, can not find the step that i missed in cups
[23:54] <wheatthin> braindrop, that would be in the bios tho
[23:55] <wheatthin> jackarius86, still having issues?
[23:55] <braindrop> wheatthin: huh? I'm pretty lost at this point
[23:55] <wheatthin> well unless it's a cpu malfunction, it would have to be a setting in the bios
[23:56] <wheatthin> multicore or something like that
[23:56] <abstrakt> how do I use my standard emacs shortcuts on the terminal in tmux?
[23:56] <braindrop> wheatthin: the bios is set to allow all cores
[23:56] <braindrop> wheatthin: if I boot into 10.04, everything works as normal
[23:56] <skinux> I've asked this before, but, which app is it that creates desktop launcher files?
[23:56] <abstrakt> all I get is a string output of "^A" when I hit Ctrl-a for example
[23:56] <braindrop> wheatthin: in 10.04 all the cores and the cache work
[23:56] <wheatthin> and you have 14.04 now?
[23:57] <jackarius86> wheatthin: yes i am, its being a pain :(
[23:57] <braindrop> wheatthin: just installed it onto a new SSD
[23:57] <wheatthin> can I get a pastebin of    uname -a   and one of dmesg
[23:57] <skinux> I made a launcher for Aptana Studio based on Launcher for Eclipse, but it's unable to launch Aptana Studio.
[23:58] <wheatthin> jackarius86, You'll have to type in the search field "software and update" then go to the last tab to the right and install the proprietary drivers


[06:42] <mup> Bug #2032983 changed: "Refresh host" on LXD KVM host does not pick up on storage size changes <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2032983>


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[16:40] <gang66> Why do we need these sudo there?
[16:40] <balloons> you can't restart the location service without it.
[16:41] <balloons> it's more a bigger question of why we need to restart location service
[16:42] <nik90> I don't remember adding that line either
[16:43] <nik90> Could it be to show the location-trust-store prompt and press the "ok" button?
[16:43] <nik90> at one point clock-app was failing because of it, and we fixed it once the trust-store became testable
[16:44] <balloons> right. If there's anymore of those, it's not a testable service, we should pushback on making sure it is testable. But I think we've rooted all those out
[16:46] <nik90> balloons: I am admiring the jenkins service at the moment. Its so cool that I can provide it with branch link, framework to see if it passes or not! Superb! No more having to do empty commits in the Mp just to kick jenkins to rebuild and test.
[16:47] <nik90> wait is jenkins running it on the krillin device *and* a local machine? Or just krillin atm?
[16:47] <balloons> nik90, jenkins builds on a machine, but the tests run on the krillin
[16:57]  * nik90 leaves university. bbs
[18:45] <balloons> so, do the tests run for you guys?
[18:46] <balloons> as in, does the app launch and try to do something/
[18:52] <gang66> nope it is just crashing
[18:53] <nik90> balloons: no it crashes after opening the app. Pretty much at MainView12 point
[18:54] <balloons> I'm trying again with a fresh branch
[18:54] <balloons> I'm not even getting that far, imho
[18:55] <gang66> https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/job/adt-krillin/15/artifact/logs/autopilot-stderr/*view*/
[18:55] <gang66> autopilot.exceptions.StateNotFoundError: Object not found with name 'MainView'.
[18:55] <gang66> I'm curious why it cannot find MainView
[18:57] <balloons> there we go, finally it launches
[18:57] <balloons> ok, I'm on the same page as you now :-)
[18:59] <balloons> gang66, the issue with mainview is because of versioned qml classes and autopilot
[19:00] <balloons> indeed, mainview12 is the mainview, fun times
[19:03] <balloons> here's the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot-qt/+bug/1341671
[19:05] <gang66> How we could workaround it?
[19:07] <balloons> I need to check and see if some code landed in autopilot 1.5
[19:07] <balloons> the fix is really in autopilot itsel
[19:08] <balloons> indeed, it landed in 1.5, sweet
[19:09] <nik90> oh
[19:09] <nik90> what are we using in vivid jenkins at the moment? Autopilot 1.4 or 1.5?
[19:10] <balloons> vivid jenkins does make it hard
[19:10] <balloons> mmm.. but it's using the overlay, so we should be fine
[19:11] <balloons> yep, it should be using  1.5.1+15.04.20150908-0ubuntu1
[19:12] <balloons> ok, so the fix is what's described in here https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/autopilot/fix-cpo-having-different-name-1337004/+merge/262047/comments/668227
[19:48] <balloons> nik90, you about?
[19:48] <nik90> balloons: yes
[19:48] <balloons> so autopilot is complaining about finding multiple mainview matches
[19:49] <balloons> and indeed I see several mainviews amongst the qml files. I assume this hasn't changed from before
[19:49] <nik90> multiple mainviews in the qml files?
[19:49] <balloons> app/upstreamcomponents/PageWithBottomEdge.qml:    MainView {
[19:49] <balloons> app/ubuntu-clock-app.qml:MainView {
[19:49]  * nik90 checks
[19:50] <nik90> balloons: app/upstreamcomponents/PageWithBottomEdge.qml:    MainView { doesn't exist
[19:50] <nik90> it is a comment
[19:50] <nik90> looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/trunk/view/head:/app/upstreamcomponents/PageWithBottomEdge.qml
[19:50] <balloons> ahh indeed ;-)
[19:51] <nik90> ;)
[19:51] <balloons> Nevertheless, AP isn't happy. ValueError: More than one custom proxy class matches this object: Matching classes are: <class 'ubuntu_clock_app.PageWithBottomEdge'>,<class 'ubuntu_clock_app.ClockPage'>,<class 'ubuntu_clock_app.MainView'>
[19:52] <balloons> so I'll sort it
[19:53] <nik90> ok, I am installing autopilot 1.5 from the PPA on my vivid machine now
[19:53] <nik90> hmm I am actually in wily
[19:53] <balloons> you forgot you upgraded?
[19:53] <nik90> doesn't 15.10 get autopilot 1.5 without PPAs?
[19:53] <balloons> yep
[19:53] <nik90> its my development machine. So I kind of forgot about it :P
[19:54]  * nik90 updates
[19:54] <balloons> I actually dropped one of my machines back to trusty for fun. So I have no vivid
[19:55] <nik90> oh...I realize how easy it is when developing on the latest development release.
[20:04] <balloons> yea, autopilot is very unhappy
[20:04] <balloons> it can't even traverse the tree :-(
[20:08] <balloons> nik90, so I'd like to set an objectName for the MainView as one way to stop AP from being so confused. However, the app won't run if I set one
[20:09] <nik90> hmm, the app doesn't run?
[20:09] <nik90> let me try setting it
[20:09] <balloons> yes please
[20:11] <nik90> balloons: in ubuntu-clock-appq.qml, we already have the objectName of mainView set to 'clock'
[20:12] <nik90> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/trunk/view/head:/app/ubuntu-clock-app.qml#L33
[20:12] <balloons> lol, ok let me try again
[20:12] <balloons> I tried the fix out on music, it works
[20:12] <balloons> so it should fix clock too
[20:13] <ahayzen> ...did someone mention music ? ;-)
[20:13] <balloons> ahayzen, so let me give you a little diff
[20:13] <nik90> ;D
[20:14] <balloons> ahayzen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12323350/
[20:14] <ahayzen> heh the MainView vs MainView12 thing
[20:15] <balloons> ahayzen, that little method is a 'nice way' of working around the greater bug
[20:15] <ahayzen> looks it :-)
[20:15] <balloons> it also lets you set the query name for anything you wish, so you can call a local class 'andrewisawesome' and have it point at anything in the tree
[20:16] <ahayzen> sweet :-)
[20:17] <balloons> nik90, clock however isn't so nice.. It really is confused. I think we're hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1350532 too
[20:18] <nik90> :/
[20:19] <balloons> in a moment veebers will be here
[20:19] <balloons> then we'll get out the pitchforks
[20:23] <balloons> ahah, ok, so I get why now
[20:24] <balloons> woot, success
[20:25] <nik90> wat did you do?
[20:25] <balloons> I did the simple fix, but I realized it was our own class declarations that was causing AP to go nuts
[20:25] <balloons> clockpage and pagewithbottomedge were both pulling in mainview also
[20:26] <nik90> oh
[20:26] <balloons> i thought it was in the qml, but lol, nope it's in our helpers
[20:26] <balloons> ok, let me commit this
[20:26] <nik90> so does it run now?
[20:26] <balloons> yea, it tries to do things now
[20:26] <nik90> cool
[20:27] <balloons> lp:~nskaggs/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-ap-mainview
[20:28] <balloons> you still get my debugging info if you pull that now, lol
[20:28]  * nik90 test
[20:29] <balloons> rev 380 is more or less a clean base to fix things
[20:32] <ahayzen> balloons, the new coreapps jenkins looks awesome btw :-)
[20:33] <balloons> I'm glad you like it. Some more goodies and tweaks to do, but it's ready to rock.
[20:34] <balloons> we've been delayed on getting the MP functionality working
[20:34] <balloons> I still have my MP ready and waiting on your project
[20:35] <balloons> nik90, so are you going to attempt to actual correct the tests now or ? I don't want us both working on the same thing, heh
[20:36] <nik90> balloons: I am going to be real busy with uni for the next 1-2 weeks. But its something that me and gang66 are putting emphasis on for this release.
[20:36] <balloons> ok, I'll keep going and see if I can't get at least one test running and propose something
[20:36] <balloons> thanks for the help in deciphering this
[20:37] <nik90> balloons: oke, but beware the whole navigation has changed..so its going to be lot of change to get that first test passing.
[20:37] <nik90> (code wise)
[20:37] <balloons> righto
[20:37] <nik90> balloons: and thnx a lot :)
[21:47] <veebers> barry: Hey if you're around, I believe this bug should be considered fix released? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1488175
[21:47] <veebers> barry: unless there are other issues?
[21:50] <barry> veebers: i *think* it's due to testtools bugs, but this is mostly for tracking.  if it's messing you up, the bug can be closed
[21:51] <veebers> barry: ah right, this is failing to build in the 3.5 ppa right?
[21:51] <barry> veebers: yep
[21:51] <barry> veebers: i suspect it would also fail if we rebuilt testtools in the archive
[21:56] <veebers> barry: ah ok, that's not good :-\ Is there anything I can do to help? Or is it waiting on something else
[21:57] <barry> veebers: upstream testtools isn't compatible w/ the version of twisted we have in the archive.  there's a patch that *almost* gets us there, but i'm chasing down one last failure.  i'll update the ap bug once it all gets straightened out.  thanks for your help tho, much appreciated!
[21:58] <veebers> barry: nw, I'll be interested to see how it goes
[21:58] <barry> veebers: me too :)


[15:15] <yano> stay alive, don't irc and drive
[15:15] <yano> :-p
[20:02]  * skellat goes for Odyssey mode


[07:19] <mup> PR snapd#11940 opened: overlord: support for --quota-group option on snap install <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11940>
[16:16] <mup> PR snapd#11941 opened: asserts: allow classic + snaps models and add distribution to model <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11941>
[17:49] <mup> PR snapcraft#3830 opened: Hotfix/7.0.10 merge <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3830>
[19:44] <mup> PR snapcraft#3831 opened: project: use correct host arch when target arch is set <Created by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3831>
[21:34] <mup> PR snapcraft#3830 closed: Hotfix/7.0.10 merge <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3830>
[22:39] <mup> PR snapcraft#3831 closed: project: use correct host arch when target arch is set <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3831>
[22:44] <mup> PR snapcraft#3832 opened: cli: argparse append action for status command <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3832>
[22:49] <mup> PR snapcraft#3833 opened: cli: update craft-cli to comply with UX guidelines <Created by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3833>


[00:00] <jgjones> Quick question if you don't mind...
[00:00] <jgjones> Got a new monitor, so that mean I would have 3 monitors.
[00:00] <popey> uhuh
[00:00] <m0nkey_> You have the math
[00:01] <jgjones> Previous setup - 1080 screen and a older viewsonic screen at 1280x1024 - dual screen is fine, no issues (old is DVI, new is HDMI)
[00:01] <jgjones> new monitor - using displayport, it's a 1080 screen.
[00:01] <jgjones> On its own, works fine. It simply will not play nicely with the other two screens in any configuration.
[00:02] <jgjones> the new monitor is capable of 144Hz refresh rate if that make any difference?
[00:02] <jgjones> oh and graphics is nvidia
[00:02] <jgjones> any clues as to what might be the problem?
[00:02] <diddledan> nvidia
[00:03] <jgjones> I've used 3 screens with nvidia without any problem in the past though?
[00:04] <diddledan> I don't know how out of date my info is but I recall there being a thing that nvidia crippled their cards or drivers to only support two monitors
[00:04] <ThomasRedstone> okay...
[00:04] <ThomasRedstone> Still don't know the question, but, have you tried disconnecting one of the other monitors and seeing if it works with the new one, and one of the old ones?
[00:05] <ThomasRedstone> or maybe IRC has a very long lag for me right now...
[00:05] <jgjones> ThomasRedstone, I should really have thought of doing that. I'll disconnect the old one and see.
[00:06] <ThomasRedstone> Are you certain it supports 3 monitors? I know my laptop doesn't, so I have to turn the built in display off when I work with my dual monitor setup
[00:06] <popey> i thought they crippled to only support 3
[00:07] <jgjones> It's a desktop PC by the way but that would be friggin' annoying if they did cripple to support just 2 screen considering I bought the new one to have 2 screens.
[00:07] <jgjones> 3 screens I mean.
[00:07] <jgjones> It's fine on Windows after all but I'll really rather not use that.
[00:09] <ThomasRedstone> ah, if it works on Windows, it's not a hardware limitation, though it could potentially still be lower level, like drivers, but who knows...
[00:09] <ThomasRedstone> anyway, I'm off to bed! Night all
[00:11] <jgjones> no hardware limits - the graphics card - gtx970 support up to 4 screens.
[00:11] <jgjones> pulled out old monitor and it's happy with 2 screens once again.
[00:11] <jgjones> I'll plug that in now live.
[00:14] <jgjones> Hmm OK.
[00:14] <jgjones> I really should have done what ThomasRedstone suggested...it seems that if I unplug the old monitor, setup dual screen with the 2 HD screens, and then plug in old monitor and it can then be added as a 3rd screen.
[00:15] <jgjones> Panic's over folks, it's working (so far, I have yet to reboot and see what happens)
[00:15] <diddledan> odd
[00:16] <diddledan> oh well at least it almost works as planned - it might require hotplugging ever time though which would be a nuisance
[00:16] <jgjones> no wait...
[00:16] <jgjones> new problem...it now doesn't work...yes I spoke too screen. Sigh...
[00:17] <jgjones> there was an error message, but I hit enter while that was active so didn't read what it said and new screen is off. I'll restart and see if I can see the error message again.
[00:20] <jgjones> Ah - it all works fine. I do get an error message that shows up: "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied. could not set the configuration for CRTC 443"
[00:20] <jgjones> Just a close button on that.
[00:21] <jgjones> Funny thing is that it works just fine with 3 screens, but if I click on Close on the error message, I lose the middle screen and it all get screwy.
[00:23] <jgjones> OK - new advice please ladies and gentlemen - what's the best way I can collect a log of all this so that I could submit it as a bug report if not already exists?
[00:23] <jgjones> I mean..what do I need? /var/log/xorg.log anything else?
[00:26] <popey> there is an nvidia bug report tool which does it for you
[00:28] <jgjones> Thanks. I assume it should go to nvidia rather than Ubuntu since I'm using nvidia drivers?
[00:29] <popey> you donwloaded from nvidia.com?
[00:29] <popey> if so, they have a bug reporting script and details on their forums
[00:29] <jgjones> xorg-edgers ppa
[00:30] <popey> ah
[00:31] <popey> I'd follow the nvidia process
[00:31] <jgjones> Memory's a tad vague but I think I started using xorg-edgers because the offical nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu official sources didn't support the maxwell GPU
[00:31] <popey> there's little we can do with the closed driver
[00:31] <jgjones> Aye, I figured.
[00:42] <diddledan> :-o http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/nation-in-shock-as-cadburys-changes-the-creme-egg-recipe-9971856.html
[01:00] <diddledan> oh. "mainstream support for windows 7 ends today" <-- I'm assuming that's the pre-sp version
[01:01] <zmoylan-pi> i think it's looking to promote paid for service patches
[01:07] <diddledan> lol: http://gizmodo.com/blackhat-alllmost-gets-hacking-right-1679233206
[01:07] <diddledan> I still want to watch it tho
[01:07] <diddledan> I like the comments section
[01:09] <diddledan> """Sure, but all it takes is one careless idiot who's late for a meeting and just HAS to get that report printed right now to fuck it up for everyone. That's the simple genius of phishing scams. It doesn't matter how tall the castle walls are if you can get some moron to raise the portcullis and lower the drawbridge."
[01:10] <diddledan> language
[01:10] <diddledan> sorry, I should have vetted it a bit better
[05:18] <mapps> morning
[05:32]  * zmoylan-pi opens one eye to confirm, doesn't like the view and closes the eye again
[05:36] <mapps> sup:D
[05:36] <mapps> actually been asleep for once eh?
[05:36] <mapps> normally you and daftykins  and diddledan  seem to be here all the time
[05:36] <mapps> oh and shauno  :)
[05:38] <zmoylan-pi> nah, i'm awake, coughing lungs up.  thank goodness for lozenges easing cough
[05:52] <shauno> not all the time, just the weird hours you keep :)
[05:58] <mapps> yea  but u all stay up when you have work in the morning
[05:58] <mapps> im here when ive finished work;p
[06:36] <mapps> ;]
[06:40] <mapps> looks like my pi might have crashed again
[06:40] <mapps> argh
[06:44] <zmoylan-pi> what was it running at the time?
[06:47] <knightwise> morning è
[06:47]  * knightwise is still fighting with Retropie :)
[06:53] <mapps> openvpn/apache
[06:53] <mapps> and a pptp vpn
[06:54] <mapps> i cant see it so cant check logs..dunno if its totally crashed or just networking stack?
[06:54] <mapps> but i cant ssh to it or anything
[06:54] <mapps> if i get it rebooted..will there be any logs i can check? someone said before theyd be gone upon reboot
[08:11] <Myrtti> moin
[08:17] <awilkins> http://moinmo.in/
[08:19] <MooDoo> morning all
[09:12] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:14] <bashrc> morning
[09:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: is all the snow melted up your way?
[09:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: haven't had any
[09:32] <davmor2> MooDoo: :(
[09:35] <MooDoo> supposed to have a little flurry at some point but nothing major, was a bit frosty this morning, but that's about it
[09:36] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Organise Your Home Day! :-D
[09:37] <nigelb> I did that yesterday.
[09:37] <nigelb> My books are in a neat bookshelf that makes me happy every time I look at it.
[09:39] <JamesTait> Normally I would follow on in the spirit of yesterday and be very skeptical about my chances of organising my home, but I've also been doing exactly that the last couple of days.
[09:40] <JamesTait> In fact, nigelb, I also re-organised the books in my bookshelf last night.
[09:40] <nigelb> \o/
[09:40] <nigelb> I realized sadly that I have far little books than I thought.
[09:40] <nigelb> ~100
[09:40] <nigelb> rather than the 200 or so I thought.
[09:40]  * davmor2 spent the holiday organising his office does that count JamesTait ?
[09:41] <nigelb> I only knew them as "needs 5 cardboard boxes"
[09:41] <JamesTait> davmor2, YES!
[09:41] <davmor2> \o/
[09:41] <JamesTait> nigelb, I discovered that The Fifth Elephant seems to have wandered off somewhere.
[09:42] <nigelb> the conference?
[09:42] <nigelb> Oh, the book!
[09:42] <nigelb> JamesTait: I have not yet bought into the Prachett world.
[09:42] <nigelb> I have two books, not yet read them.
[09:42] <nigelb> Last night I thoguht I'd read to bed.
[09:42]  * bashrc never bought into the Prachett world
[09:43] <nigelb> Bad idea: Stayed up most of the night reading the book instead of sleeping.
[09:43] <JamesTait> I'm working through the Discworld series with my eldest son atm.
[09:43] <awilkins> He starts off as funny but pretty standard fantasy spoof humour
[09:43] <awilkins> He develops a lot of heart and insight later on
[09:44] <awilkins> His recent work has started to show the signs of his condition which is really sad
[10:05] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:17] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[10:17] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:20] <JamesTait> brobostigon, o/
[10:20] <brobostigon> morning JamesTait
[12:02] <diplo> Afternoon girls and boys
[12:02] <popey> pip pip
[12:03] <MooDoo> howdy diplo
[12:03] <diplo> Got myself a new 4TB drive, just wondering the best way to partition it as fdisk doesn't support >2TB
[12:03] <diplo> Any pointers to sites would be great, gdisk seems to be the option I can find so far
[12:03] <popey> gparted does
[12:03] <diplo> Ah right, parted is the CLI version isn't it ?
[12:03] <popey> just needs a bigger partition table
[12:03] <popey> gpt
[12:04] <diplo> yeah, never had an issue as I've always done something this large under raid normally, first time I've used a single large disk
[12:04] <diplo> Just want to do it right until I can afford two more drives
[12:05] <diplo> Ah seems simple enough with parted ta
[12:05] <popey> i have two 4TB drives arriving this week
[12:06] <popey> need to think about how to partition them..
[12:06] <MooDoo> I'm looking at 2TB wd red drives for my servers
[12:07] <diplo> I'm going with one big one for now, and next month hopefully buy two more drives and may make a btrfs set up
[12:07] <bashrc> my storage needs are quite modest. I don't save a lot of video and mostly I'm just producing text.
[12:08] <diplo> I rip all my DVDs to video for media centre, 500-600 films
[12:08] <diplo> I've saved so much money on kids not breaking DVD's :)
[12:10] <MooDoo> I'm just using mine for my vps server
[12:12] <popey> my btrfs drive is mostly knackered
[12:21] <popey> uhm
[12:29] <awilkins> diplo, I keep intending to rip all my DVDs and loft them
[12:29] <awilkins> But it would mean upgrading all my infrastructure..
[12:30] <awilkins> My current media rig is a CRT TV connected to a 15 year old MythTV box (rocking a Sempron)
[12:30] <diplo> I've done mine over the last few years
[12:30] <awilkins> IDE drives
[12:30] <diplo> Ah right :D
[12:30] <awilkins> And the CPU gets a bit warm if you don't underclock it
[12:31] <awilkins> I'd have to upgrade the MythTV box
[12:31] <awilkins> Which means I'd then have to upgrade the TV
[12:31] <awilkins> I suppose in this day and age that means less than a grand
[12:31] <awilkins> Just the TV and VCR were £700 when I got them
[12:32] <diplo> I need lots of new things too, but the Revo media box works well with XBMC
[12:32] <diplo> Bought the microserver cheap a few years ago
[12:46] <ali1234> why would you have to upgrade the tv
[13:09] <knightwise> yoyo
[13:11] <MooDoo> howdy knightwise
[13:14] <knightwise> hey MooDoo
[13:14] <knightwise> im on my phone over ssh .. so
[13:14] <knightwise> but slow
[13:15] <knightwise> and lots of typos
[13:19] <popey> ☃
[13:30] <shauno> boy it's evil Out There.  do not advise.  Outside highly overrated.
[13:31] <ThomasRedstone> ali1234, connecting TVs that old to modern computers isn't trivial... Trouble is, TVs these days don't seem to last 15 years...
[13:32] <ali1234> i'm surprised there are still working CRTs to be honest
[13:32] <ali1234> all of mine died years ago
[13:35] <daftykins> heh, just got called up to a pal doing a presentation in a fancy hotel about 2 mins walk from here, she couldn't open a powerpoint
[13:35] <daftykins> turns out they were trying to open the ._blah.pptx files macs create, rather than the real thing
[13:36] <daftykins> glad it was close 'cause i dragged myself up there with a spare laptop, sick as i am :P
[14:06] <Azelphur> Hey folks, new laptop with Xubuntu 14.10, installed bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia prims linux-headers-generic, primusrun glxgears says "Bumblebee daemon reported: error: Could not load GPU driver" any ideas?
[14:06] <ali1234> bumblebee tuna?
[14:06] <Azelphur> wat
[14:07] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZcsARqmq1U
[14:07] <daftykins> Azelphur: y'know nvidia-prime replaced bumblebee?
[14:07] <Azelphur> I did not know
[14:07] <daftykins> i think results are still varied between the two
[14:07] <shauno> tuna?
[14:07] <daftykins> i see lots of optimus users moaning about tearing with prime
[14:08] <Azelphur> ali1234: lol
[14:08] <shauno> I keep getting adverts for glittery pants getting slapped with a fish.  I thought google was meant to know who I am
[14:09] <Azelphur> daftykins: so how do I run something under nvidia-prime?
[14:10] <daftykins> pass :D i just know driver package + nvidia-prime package should be gravy to get it setup
[14:24] <davmor2> Azelphur: Nvidia-prime auto selects Nvidia by default you can drop it down to power saving in nvidia-settings which then uses the intel gfx instead
[14:25] <Azelphur> davmor2: interesting, any way I can test whether it's working? I can't see any option to switch to power saving in nvidia-settings
[14:26] <davmor2> Azelphur: you need to install nvidia-prime then open settings and goto prime profile iirc
[14:27] <daftykins> with bumblebee already present, prime won't work / be fudged
[14:28] <Azelphur> daftykins: I've removed all the bumblebee stuff and installed nvidia-prime, nvidia-settings only has two tabs, Application Profiles and nvidia-settings configuration.
[14:29] <davmor2> Azelphur: you need nvidia-313 or higher too
[14:29] <daftykins> might as well go nvidia-331
[14:29] <davmor2> whatever is highest is normally a good thing but it works with 313 and up
[14:30] <daftykins> 313 isn't a real number for PPA based drivers
[14:30] <daftykins> it's 304, 319 and 331 afaik
[14:30] <Azelphur> I see
[14:30] <daftykins> @find nvidia-
[14:30] <Azelphur> I wonder why there isn't an "install the latest version" package
[14:30] <Azelphur> seems silly
[14:30] <daftykins> hilariously 'nvidia-current' installs 304.
[14:31] <davmor2> daftykins: listed is 304, 310, 313, 319 and 331
[14:31] <Azelphur> indeed, I noticed
[14:31] <daftykins> more to the point, a driver that supports modern cards isn't packaged yet, so we get endless trouble with all the newcomers in #ubuntu
[14:31] <daftykins> davmor2: ah, my bad then.
[14:32] <davmor2> Azelphur: because nvidia only support certain cards on certain drivers so you need to install the driver for your card not necessarily the highest number
[14:32] <davmor2> Azelphur: on prime however it is possibly new enough for the highest number :)
[14:33] <Azelphur> yea but assuming the 970 is gonna be supported for a long time ;)
[14:33] <daftykins> the 750Ti and 9xx series need non-PPA drivers to function
[14:33] <daftykins> who is even responsible for packaging nvidia drivers 0o this one is a major showstopper for tonnes of users
[14:34] <Azelphur> installed nvidia-331-updates and nvidia-prime, still same issue
[14:34] <davmor2> daftykins: tselliot
[14:34] <ali1234> my 780 works fine
[14:35] <davmor2> Azelphur: reboot
[14:35] <daftykins> ali1234: that's because it's a different generation
[14:35] <Azelphur> davmor2: already have
[14:35] <daftykins> the 750 Ti is maxwell i believe
[14:35] <ali1234> it is
[14:36] <ali1234> the funny thing is that there are literally no games on linux that need a 970, or even a 780
[14:37] <davmor2> Azelphur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[14:40] <Azelphur> I have all that stuff, still doesn't work :(
[14:40] <daftykins> sir, i expect more of you than an #ubuntu "IT DUN WORK!" :)
[14:40] <Azelphur> daftykins: kinda hard to get more from it than "it doesn't work"
[14:41] <Azelphur> it's not like I get error messages out of it or anything.
[14:41] <daftykins> Xorg.0.log ? :P
[14:41] <Azelphur> and baring in mind I only found out about it 5 minutes ago, my debugging capability is somewhat limited :P
[14:41] <Azelphur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9748059/ nothing interesting it seems
[14:43] <daftykins> do you have a xorg.conf ? i dunno if bumblebee messes with one these days or no
[14:44] <Azelphur> daftykins: nope
[14:45] <davmor2> Azelphur: maybe have a word with tselliot
[14:46] <Azelphur> ?
[14:46] <Azelphur> I don't see anyone around by that name
[14:47] <daftykins> weird, i thought you'd see more than just intel stuff
[14:48] <daftykins> didn't realise you have to use lightdm
[14:49] <DJones> daftykins: Just for info, that bug/error I mentioned last night doesn't seem to have any effect, laptop still boots with nvidia without any issue
[14:52] <daftykins> DJones: oh wow! that is odd
[14:53] <DJones> Yup,  I think it may be running slower (in terms of FPS looking at Minecraft) but everything is working fine generally, I'll just leave it until the next update & see what happens
[14:54] <daftykins> DJones: sure it didn't just revert to nouveau? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[14:55] <DJones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9748253/
[14:56] <daftykins> nope looks good, although that's a hybrid setup too i see
[14:56] <DJones> Yes it is, nvidia/intel
[14:57] <daftykins> you mentioned switching between intel and nvidia last night, do you get to pick? o0
[14:58] <DJones> Yes using the nvidia x server settings app, its just under prime profiles, I can select Nvidia (Performance mode) or Intel (Power saving mode)
[14:59] <DJones> http://imgur.com/dTB0LHb
[15:03] <daftykins> ah i see
[15:03] <daftykins> just what Azelphur is after!
[15:04] <DJones> Ah, if he wants more screenshots of the app, give me a shout
[15:04] <Azelphur> daftykins: I definitely don't have those options
[15:04] <Azelphur> I literally only have two options :(
[15:05] <DJones> I'll upload some more screenshots
[15:05] <Azelphur> I only have the bottom two options (application profiles and nvidia-settings configuration) everything else is missing from my nvidia-settings
[15:05] <Azelphur> I don't think screenshots are gonna help, but it'd be nice to know what packages you installed
[15:05] <Azelphur> DJones: also does that allow you to run specific applications under nvidia but leave the rest on the intel?
[15:05] <daftykins> compare a "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" perhaps
[15:06] <daftykins> i take it you had full reboots between ditching bumblebee?
[15:06] <Azelphur> daftykins: haha I just noticed I have nvidia-304 AND nvidia-331...that's probably not hhelping.
[15:06] <DJones> Azelphur: Yes in theory,I've not tried it, but its supposed to using the application profiles
[15:07] <DJones> From memory, all I installed on a clean install was nvidia-prime and nvidia-settings
[15:07] <Azelphur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9748471/ actually, looks like I have some other bits
[15:07] <Azelphur> what's rc?
[15:08] <daftykins> removed, configured
[15:08] <Azelphur> ah
[15:08] <Azelphur> DJones: can I see your dpkg -l | grep nvidia?
[15:08] <daftykins> i'd purge the lot sir
[15:08] <DJones> Give me a sec
[15:08] <Azelphur> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* ?
[15:08] <daftykins> without the hyphen ja
[15:09] <DJones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9748483/
[15:09] <daftykins> well, not much difference either way i guess
[15:09] <daftykins> ah the difference there is 331 vs. 331-updates
[15:09] <DJones> I'm on 14.10, but I did the same on 14.04
[15:09] <Azelphur> yea I'll try on 331
[15:10] <Azelphur> daftykins: I did apt-get remove --purge nvidia* and I still have a bunch of stuff which is rc
[15:10] <DJones> Azelphur: Could that be from the bumblebee-nvidia?
[15:11] <daftykins> well, hopefully you have everything bumblebee related off there
[15:11] <daftykins> i'd probably reboot before installing anything further to replace too, as ridiculous as that may seem
[15:11] <DJones> 1st line of Azelphur's paste was a bumblebee-nvidia
[15:12] <Azelphur> aha fixed it :)
[15:12] <Azelphur> at least, the rc stuff not the nvidia stuff
[15:13] <daftykins> DJones: yep but i wasn't sure whether to be worried about a removed but configured package
[15:20] <Azelphur> daftykins / DJones I got the exact same packages and still no entries in nvidia-settings
[15:20] <Azelphur> I wonder if 331 is new enough for a 970?
[15:20] <daftykins> hang on a minute
[15:21] <daftykins> this laptop is a 970m ?
[15:21] <Azelphur> yup
[15:21] <daftykins> i should probably have started with asking what hardware it is XD
[15:21] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:21] <daftykins> nah the 331 doesn't support that afaik
[15:21] <daftykins> you'll need 340 from the website or xorg-edgers
[15:21] <daftykins> i don't know if they need to be modified in any way to run with prime
[15:22] <Azelphur> ah right, xorg-edgers it is
[15:23] <daftykins> i don't know if they have a prime package too though, so proceed with caution :>
[15:29] <Azelphur> its working \o/
[15:31] <daftykins> awww yeah
[15:31] <daftykins> if only i'd started from the beginning that could've saved some fun :(
[15:32] <DJones> Azelphur: switchable nvidia/intel as well?
[16:12] <diddledan> *yawn*
[16:12] <Myrtti> some more soldering done.
[16:12] <Myrtti> got the more handshaky bits done before darkness fell
[16:12] <Myrtti> yay.
[16:12] <diddledan> Myrtti, you rock it girl! :-p
[16:13] <diddledan> well done! :-D
[16:13] <diddledan> I haven't soldered since I was a teen
[16:13] <diddledan> I need to find something interesting to get my teeth into that will encourage me to start again
[16:15] <Myrtti> yeah, I've had a few projects in mind for both sewable and soldering projects but never really got anything that piqued my interest until this summer
[16:16] <bashrc> The wearable stuff looks like fun, but sadly these days I don't have so much time
[16:18] <Myrtti> I just ordered two meters of 1.2mm white heat shrink from ebay and about 45 minutes later realised I don't need it.
[16:18] <Myrtti> oh well.
[16:25] <diddledan> google slapped microsoft a second time before the tuesday (yesterday) patch releases: http://grahamcluley.com/2015/01/google-discloses-microsoft-windows-vulnerability
[16:29] <awilkins> Exploit WAR!
[16:29] <awilkins> WebView exploit affecting 4.3 ....
[16:31] <diddledan> yeah, ref: http://www.hotforsecurity.com/blog/google-endangers-900-million-android-smartphones-by-refusing-to-patch-webview-11170.html
[16:59] <ali1234> pls stop linking to graham clueless
[17:00] <daftykins> haha
[17:00] <daftykins> he did get a bit too big for his britches didn't he?
[17:02] <diddledan> sorry, it's only because he emails me a lot
[17:02] <diddledan> he seems to be the only guy to write security things these days - absolutely bloomin everywhere!
[17:03] <diddledan> how about lesbians instead? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_N36YpApQA
[17:06] <ali1234> buzzfeed? reeeaaaaally?
[17:09] <diddledan> youtube emailed me, and I clicked - I didn't look to see who posted it
[17:10] <diddledan> oh god. facebook just reminded me that BSG was 10 years ago
[17:10] <diddledan> now I feel old
[17:11] <diddledan> you can't moan about al murray, can you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tADgYkAfXro
[17:17] <ThomasRedstone> 1p pints!!! Nice!
[17:20] <ThomasRedstone> off home now! Bye!
[17:24] <daftykins> o/
[17:28] <davmor2> Azelphur: you just needed the newer nvidia drivers then in the end?
[17:31] <diddledan> kittycuddle: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7U7S1GIEAIUJzv.jpg:large
[17:32] <popey> awwwww
[17:32] <daftykins> diddledan: or disposing of the competition?
[18:36] <Azelphur> Does anyone know if the new nvidia-prime stuff will let you set up profiles to run games under nvidia while leaving everything else to Intel?
[18:45] <DJones> Azelphur: Just found this, not sure if it tells you enough though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Creating_Application_Profiles
[18:48] <Azelphur> DJones: that doesn't allow for toggling of the card by the look of it I think only primus can do that
[18:48] <DJones> Yeah that was my impression
[18:49] <DJones> I'm not sure, but I think bigcalm may have looked into it
[18:51] <bigcalm> Humm?
[18:52] <bigcalm> My away proxy sense was tingling
[18:58]  * bigcalm goes away again
[19:04] <davmor2> slaps bigcalm 's away proxy
[21:28] <diddledan> more kittycuddle cuteness: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7VkhTtIQAETjms.jpg:large
[21:39] <zmoylan-pi> moggies looking moody https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7V0_vzCYAEv21T.jpg
[21:58] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: :D
[21:59] <mapps> grmpf
[21:59] <mapps> so pi crashed and noone can restart it
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> sounds like the card went corrupt?
[21:59] <daftykins> again! you must be doing something odd like using an insufficient power supply for whatever's connected
[22:00] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi would know though ;)
[22:00] <mapps> oh i mean noone can restart as noione's there
[22:00] <mapps> heh
[22:00] <zmoylan-pi> the pi b could be tempermental about power if you used too little
[22:00] <mapps> dad left this morning before i could ask him to restart it
[22:00] <mapps> could it simply be i had too much running?
[22:00] <mapps> openvpn/pptp vpn/apache etc
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> so you want 2 pis there in future each with option to kill power of the other :-)
[22:01] <mapps> the 2nd pi i have at my dads place doesnt seem to crash like this
[22:11] <mapps> ?
[22:17] <daftykins> more reliable card? *shrug*
[22:17] <daftykins> power stats on the supply, as above? etc