[19:12] <urbancommando> wylde, Dr_willis, ok the mount point is media/2nd_Storage but I'm assuming the best way is it add a line in /etc/fstab correct?
[19:12] <hu> wylde: i have no need for incremental backups
[19:12] <Dr_willis> urbancommando,  if you want it mounted at boot.. yes.
[19:12] <wylde> hu: so you're only backing up this once?
[19:13] <urbancommando> gotcha tyvm
[19:13] <brokencodes> hu, rsync would be the best option if you want to be able to resume
[19:13] <hu> wylde: i'm wiping the drive once i'm done
[19:13] <brokencodes> then mv
[19:13] <Dr_willis> hu,  how big a hd?
[19:13] <wylde> hu: what brokencodes said.
[19:13] <hu> Dr_willis: it has about 12GB on it, but it's a 750GB drive. hence why i want to repurpose it :D
[19:13] <wylde> hu: but with mv if the proess gets interrupted you have a risk of lost data
[19:14] <wylde> process*
[19:14] <hu> wylde: that's fine
[19:14] <Dr_willis> id  copy, then clean the old...
[19:14] <brokencodes> wylde, not, because it does not do the delete untill the second pass
[19:14] <enoxl> ciao
[19:14] <Dr_willis> but id use mc so i can watch its progress also. :)
[19:14] <rfictus> guys, tell me where to find advanced word list for wlan WPA cracking??
[19:14] <wylde> brokencodes: ahh alright. Good to know, thanks. :)
[19:14] <Dr_willis> 12gb shouldent take too long to copy
[19:14] <LjL> rfictus: not here, that's not really ontopic for this channel.
[19:14] <brokencodes> depends on the file sizes, Dr_willis
[19:15] <enoxl> liste
[19:15] <Dr_willis> if its 12gb of really imporntant stuff. :) id store them online also.
[19:15] <brokencodes> 2M 2KB files will take forever,and would be < 12GB
[19:15] <BryGuy71Z> http://pastebin.com/1JWKbJSZ
[19:16] <kantlivelong> is there a way to install an older package in apt?
[19:16] <Dr_willis> !pin | kantlivelong
[19:16] <kantlivelong> i was looking for using wine 1.5.1 instead of wine 1.5.2
[19:16] <wylde> I personally like squashfs for backups, can do an entire filesystem compressed with xz and preserve xattrs. Not to mention recovering a file is as easy as mounting the file as a loop device.
[19:17] <Dr_willis> i tend to use redundant stacks of external usb hard drives. :)
[19:17]  * jiltdil Had a bad experience with wine
[19:17] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[19:17] <brokencodes> not to mention, wylde, that you can add it to fstab, without a problem, only problem is the filesystem cannot grow
[19:17] <dury> hi there all :)
[19:17] <Debolaz> Should a feature request be filed as a bug report?
[19:17] <brokencodes> no
[19:17] <hu> no
[19:17] <wylde> oh and you can export the compressed filesystem over the netowrk any way you like as well.
[19:17] <brokencodes> should be filed as a feature request
[19:18] <AngrySpam> Hi im running dual boot with Windows 7, so how could i access my windows files from Ubuntu?
[19:18] <wylde> brokencodes: you can add files to the filesystem using the same command you created it with :)
[19:18] <Dr_willis> AngrySpam,  using wubi or a normnal install?
[19:18] <jiltdil> AngrySpam,  ntfs-3g  or fuse
[19:18] <wylde> brokencodes: and if you want to get real fancy you can add unionfs to make it seem like a RW filesystem. :)
[19:18] <AngrySpam> I think wubi, but im not great with coputers
[19:18] <BryGuy71Z> Please let me know how to correct my problem
[19:18] <Xtreme> AngrySpam: just mount them, or if u r using kde, double click the drive in left column :)
[19:19] <hu> AngrySpam: generally you can just access them through nautilus. i think the major ubuntu variants come with ntfs drivers these days, don't they?
[19:19] <dlentz> Debolaz, if it's a specific, well-defined request, you report it like a bug and it gets marked "wish list". if it's more general use something like ubuntu brainstorm
[19:19] <brokencodes> AngrySpam, you can open Places, and see them right there
[19:19] <Xtreme> BryGuy71Z: please tell ur problem again
[19:19] <Debolaz> dlentz: Its fairly specific, I want a layout for mac keyboards.
[19:19] <AngrySpam> one at a time, im confused :/
[19:19] <BryGuy71Z> I just have soem errors while doing an update through terminal
[19:19] <Dr_willis> wubi has its host drive allready mounted some where...   /SOMTHING
[19:19] <BryGuy71Z> i cant remmber how to fix it, been too long
[19:19] <BryGuy71Z> http://pastebin.com/1JWKbJSZ
[19:19] <Debolaz> dlentz: As part of the system, instead of something I have to wedge in manually.
[19:20] <AngrySpam> How do i mount them?
[19:20] <brokencodes> by clicking them in Places
[19:20] <jiltdil> AngrySpam,  Read fstab  for permanent mount or just you can mount temproraliy  by using mount command ... Read manuals
[19:20] <hu> are there any ubuntu releases that still use a gnome 2.0-like gui? is xubuntu closest?
[19:20] <Dr_willis> AngrySpam,  if you are using wubi. its allready mounted to some location in /   i think its /host or  similer. it should appear in the file manager left side panel i belive
[19:21] <jiltdil> AngrySpam,  or   by clicking  it you can also mount it
[19:21] <i7c> is there any shortcut to move a window to another display (not desktop) in xfce?
[19:21] <zykotick9> hu: lucid is gnome2, but xfce is probably your best bet
[19:21] <wylde> hu: gnome 2 is dead, no longer developed.
[19:21] <BryGuy71Z> I thought, hu , that you can still use Gnome classic/2.0 on ubuntu 11.10/12.04
[19:21] <BryGuy71Z> just log off and select gnome classic
[19:21] <hu> it doesn't come by default any more
[19:21] <BryGuy71Z> oh, i have it somehow
[19:21] <hu> that was only on the first release since unity
[19:21] <BryGuy71Z> i just googled it i think and installed the repositories
[19:22]  * jiltdil Installing ubuntu 12.04 at this time..
[19:22] <gvo> hu I think that's the reason for the surge in Mint's popularity
[19:22] <wylde> BryGuy71Z: that's gnome 3 with fallback shell.
[19:22] <BryGuy71Z> then installed gnome-classic
[19:22] <BryGuy71Z> oh ok
[19:22] <dlentz> BryGuy71Z, "gnome classsic" is not gnome2, it is gnome3 with gnome2-style interface
[19:22] <hu> gvo: but mint also switched into some disaster recently
[19:22] <BryGuy71Z> well its still a gnome 2 gui isnt it
[19:22] <BryGuy71Z> indeed
[19:22] <BryGuy71Z> isnt that all hu wanted
[19:22] <jenkinsd> is anyone here into rafting?
[19:22] <brokencodes> gnome2 uses older libc, older dbus, older lots of stuff, and is all depricated
[19:22] <escott> hu, there are two versions of ntfs drivers -- the in kernel read only driver, and the slower userspace ntfs-3g driver with write capability
[19:22] <wylde> !ot | jenkinsd
[19:22] <gvo> hu 11 still works.
[19:22] <hu> gvo: yep. that's what i'm using now
[19:23] <gvo> hu Mate is supposedly OK
[19:23] <brokencodes> Debian works REALLY WELL
[19:23] <BryGuy71Z> does anyone have an opinion on slackware, or mint?
[19:24] <Dr_willis> BryGuy71Z,  if they do what you need.. use what you need.. if not.. dont...
[19:24] <brokencodes> garbage, useless, unless you like small systems, or have an outdated machine, BryGuy71Z
[19:24] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu does most all  those 2 cover.
[19:24] <BryGuy71Z> innnteresting
[19:24] <hu> BryGuy71Z: mint 11 is nice
[19:24] <Dr_willis> so its all about your needs.
[19:24] <AngrySpam> This may sound stupid but where the fudge is file manager :(
[19:24] <BryGuy71Z> thats what i heard
[19:25] <dury> ubuntu best distro for people that normally use windows
[19:25] <Dr_willis> AngrySpam,  whenever you double click on a folder,  and can move files around.. you are in the file manager
[19:25] <BryGuy71Z> ya, btu i hate windows
[19:25] <BryGuy71Z> but
[19:25] <AngrySpam> OH xD
[19:25] <brokencodes> AngrySpam, terminal | gnome-open .
[19:25] <brokencodes> or
[19:25] <wylde> AngrySpam: nautilus
[19:25] <brokencodes> terminal | gnome-open ~
[19:25] <wylde> nautilus
[19:26] <wylde> whoops
[19:26] <brokencodes> accomplishes same thing
[19:26] <jiltdil> AngrySpam,  Use  sudo nautilus
[19:26] <BryGuy71Z> anyone think they can help me out?
[19:26] <BryGuy71Z> http://pastebin.com/1JWKbJSZ
[19:26] <brokencodes> gnome-open is like windows START.EXE
[19:26] <brokencodes> umm, no
[19:26] <brokencodes> gksu nautilus would be more effective
[19:27] <shazzner> Hello there!
[19:27] <brokencodes> Hi!
[19:27] <Dr_willis> ive seen people break things badly with a root running nautilus. :)
[19:27] <zykotick9> BryGuy71Z: #ubuntu+1 for precise issues
[19:27] <i7c> is there any shortcut to move a window to another display (not desktop) in xfce?
[19:27] <shazzner> I'm here because I'm trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop
[19:27] <Dr_willis> compiz used to have a plugin to put (root) in any title of a window running as root...
[19:27] <shazzner> and I'm getting a top menu bar, white background and no windows are showing
[19:27] <Dr_willis> i7c,  you mean to a 2nd monitor?
[19:28] <shazzner> I tried logging off and switching to unity 2d, but it doesn't seem to switch to it
[19:28] <shazzner> or maybe unity 2d is failing, not sure
[19:28] <shazzner> but I can't even see the install window or anything
[19:28] <i7c> Dr_willis: exactly.
[19:28] <shazzner> any ideas?
[19:28] <brokencodes> yes
[19:28] <brokencodes> shazzner
[19:29] <Dr_willis> shazzner,  how old is 'old' ? ;) whats the specs
[19:29] <i7c> Dr_willis: i have two screens and it's annoying to switch to the mouse everytime a window appears on the wrong display.
[19:29] <shazzner> brokencodes: one sec
[19:29] <brokencodes> need to set https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:29] <Dr_willis> i7c,  the #xubuntu channel might know more about it. I dont use xfce.
[19:29] <shazzner> brokencodes: intel centrino, toshiba satellie
[19:29] <rfictus> somebody plz help fix my screen brightness for vaio cw
[19:30] <Dr_willis> night all.
[19:30] <i7c> Dr_willis: i'll ask there, thx.
[19:30] <AngrySpam> Im still hopelessly lost, i cant find anything.
[19:30] <shazzner> I think the laptop was purchased around 01,02
[19:30] <shazzner> I can get super detailed specs if you'd like
[19:30] <shazzner> on the boot options, what should I set?
[19:31] <jenkinsd> Is anyone here the funkistard corn.    Arwenoo zee-oo zaya.  Chinna 2olombia adaa wella shrek raflood lool.  Ground rearing some groans.  I'm huff tuff reffa leffa lurf nords.    Where wally niqqs.  It's coast to coast night.  Hoke a lup!  Free faq fornag!  Puck a leek a lup to lup round tround.  Wormser marrial niqs.  El delphin trilaxal.    Buck a waath ess wheel wall!  Bustin' room past tin!  Buckin' room past in!  A harnaly scrary o mep.  Rons raplaisher pa noans  rebble dibby dump dimp gabble dak.  A wristafiable pluckin'  Blacking it up to the reng teng blickhole.  I kleb to the sand of the blicka rickin time.
[19:31] <FloodBot1> jenkinsd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <brokencodes> Shazzner, you need to change MODE
[19:33] <brokencodes> your VGA is too old for 3d
[19:34] <meNtha> hi
[19:34] <shazzner> brokencodes: ok, so set vga=795?
[19:34] <zykotick9> shazzner: vga= lines have been deprecated for a while
[19:35] <shazzner> zykotick9: oh, I was just going by that wiki
[19:35] <physically_fit> oh i thought i was banned here
[19:35] <shazzner> zykotick9: what should I set?
[19:35] <meNtha> i want to buy a "new" laptop, but it has multitouch touchpad. fe: dubble finger scrool, zoom with fingers, etc So it will work on ubuntu?
[19:35] <zykotick9> shazzner: sorry off the top of my head i don't remember...
[19:35] <shazzner> hrm
[19:35] <escott> meNtha, you should check online some dont work as well (HP touchpad seems to have some problems)
[19:35] <carlo> c'è qualche italiano?
[19:36] <escott> !it | carlo
[19:36] <zykotick9> shazzner: GRUB_GFXMODE= there is also some 'keep' option that might be required (i don't mess with grub/console resolutions myself)
[19:36] <meNtha> okay, maybe should i try in live?
[19:37] <carlo> ascolta mi puoi aiutare?
[19:37] <brokencodes> no
[19:37] <meNtha> btw its a HP Probook 4320s
[19:37] <brokencodes> no shazzner, you need to find the mode that works for you
[19:38] <meNtha> escott u know something about this notebook?
[19:38] <carlo> qualcuno mi può aiutare per ubuntu per favore?
[19:38] <shazzner> brokencodes: is there any documentation on what codes and what they do?
[19:38] <brokencodes> yes shazzner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[19:39] <escott> meNtha, not in particular but HP has been a problem for some people
[19:39] <meNtha> ok, i will check it in live,thanks.
[19:39] <shazzner> brokencodes: zykotick9 just said that vga= is depreciated(?)
[19:39] <brokencodes> he is right
[19:40] <shazzner> oh so I need to use GRUB_GFXMODE= ?
[19:40] <brokencodes> si
[19:40] <brokencodes> yes
[19:40] <shazzner> ah ok
[19:41] <brokencodes> shazzner http://lmgtfy.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FGrub2
[19:42] <zykotick9> brokencodes: don't use lmgtfy in this channel
[19:42] <brokencodes> why not?
[19:42] <zykotick9> brokencodes: it's rude
[19:42] <oCean> brokencodes, it is rude.
[19:42] <brokencodes> not always
[19:42] <zykotick9> !google > brokencodes
[19:43] <oCean> brokencodes: it's easy: we will not allow it.
[19:43] <brokencodes> in some cases, it just lets others know that the source of information, was in fact GOOGLE
[19:43] <LjL> brokencodes: you can tell them yourself.
[19:43] <brokencodes> or I can stop being helpful
[19:44] <escott> brokencodes, most people don't know what to google for as opposed to not wanting to google. just because its obvious what keywords you would search for doesn't mean that its obvious to someone else
[19:45] <auronandace> escott: just missed him
[19:45] <shazzner> haha I can't believe someone lmgtfy me over obscure grub bootcodes
[19:46] <shazzner> common knowledge, no doubt
[19:47] <Corey> shazzner: Yeah, I'd not sweat it. :-)
[19:50] <di3gopa> Hello guys! i am using ubuntu 12.04 right now, but i can't find a way to make the icons smaller than 32x32 px, anyone knows how can i change this minimun value?
[19:50] <zykotick9> di3gopa: reask in #ubuntu+1
[19:50] <di3gopa> zykotick9, allright, thanks!
[19:51] <BryGuy71Z> thanks zykotic9
[19:51] <BryGuy71Z> i was getting  help in there
[19:51] <shazzner> darn it, looks like that didn't fix my issue either
[19:51] <zykotick9> !tab > BryGuy71Z
[19:51] <BryGuy71Z> i think the guy disappered though lol
[19:51] <BryGuy71Z> i forgot about that too lol
[19:51] <BryGuy71Z> zykotick9,
[19:52] <zykotick9> BryGuy71Z: :)
[19:52] <kpow> is there a meta package for all latex utils?
[19:52] <BryGuy71Z> i have to type most of your name anywyas though lol
[19:52] <BryGuy71Z> zykes-, is in here
[19:52] <shazzner> so
[19:52] <shazzner> it looks like ubuntu thinks I have proper 3d support and it's booting into unity 3d
[19:53] <shazzner> so I get a top menu bar, but the unity bar is invisible, no windows show up, and the background is white
[19:53] <shazzner> setting a GRUB_GFXMODE didn't help
[19:53] <shazzner> I tried logging out and selecting unity 2d, but it doesn't seem to select it
[19:54] <shazzner> just defaults to 3d :/
[19:54] <zykotick9> shazzner: what graphics card are you using?
[19:54] <shazzner> some laptop nvidia geforce garbage
[19:55] <shazzner> let me grab the full specs
[19:55] <zykotick9> shazzner: "lspci | grep -i vga" in terminal would tell you
[19:55] <shazzner> NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200
[19:56] <shazzner> I can't get to terminal, or anything on that laptop :(
[19:56] <shazzner> just a field of white
[19:56] <shazzner> does ctrl+alt+F2 still work?
[19:56] <escott> shazzner, have you tried nomodeset?
[19:56] <escott> !nomodeset | shazzner
[19:57] <shazzner> escott: I have not, I'll write that down
[19:57] <shazzner> I got to terminal though on that machine
[19:58] <shazzner> is there way to install open source drivers or something?
[19:58] <drcoder> hello
[19:58] <escott> shazzner, in that same file where you are messing with GRUB_GFXMODE find the part GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT that says "splash" add "nomodeset" and rerun update-grub
[19:58] <zykotick9> shazzner: do you currently have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[19:58] <shazzner> I'll try nomodeset
[19:58] <drcoder> hello friends how are you?
[19:58] <brokencodes> So I dont break the rules again, is there anyone here that can tell me how to post a link to a site with a # offset link, that has quotes in it, without xchat / mirc killing the link?
[19:58] <brokencodes> because my old trick of using lmgtfy is against the rules here
[19:58] <m477> fn + f4 decreases  brightnes in my laptop, is it possible to write for instant bash script which do that?
[19:59] <shazzner> zykotick9: let me check
[19:59] <brokencodes> ubottu? zykotick9? anyone?
[20:00] <shazzner> zykotick9: looks like no
[20:00] <zykotick9> shazzner: then you can't be using nvidia-proprietary right now then.  so it's already using the open drivers...
[20:00] <shazzner> zykotick9: ah, huh
[20:00] <shazzner> ok nomodset then
[20:01] <drcoder> exit
[20:03] <lotus> hey, ssh-agent isn't starting when I ssh into my home PC -- I'm guessing it's only set to start when I log into X?  How can I set it so that when I log in through ssh, ssh-agent still starts?
[20:05] <escott> lotus, do you have ssh agent forwarding enabled?
[20:06] <guntbert> lotus: do you really need ssh-agent on the remote machine?
[20:06] <urbancommando> im back.. i was able to set my new harddrive as /home
[20:07] <urbancommando> but I noticed one thing.... :( my home folder is not named correctly.. can someone tell me how to properly change it?  not sure if im suppose to use usermod or ... Adduser
[20:08] <kantlivelong> i think a recent update to 11.10 broke wine audio :(
[20:09] <shazzner> hooray nomodeset worked! thanks everyone :)
[20:10] <dalek_> updates killed totem movieplayer - how do I remove updates for totem and revert to older working version?
[20:11] <zykotick9> dalek_: bad news, apt can only upgrade - the scripts are all one way...  good luck.
[20:12] <dalek_> damnit!
[20:12] <lotus> guntbert: yes, I need it for git push
[20:12] <zykotick9> dalek_: are you using a PPA by chance (for totem?).  If so, there is ppa-purge
[20:12] <lotus> escott: I'm not sure, how do I check?
[20:12] <lotus> escott: also, what is ssh agent forwarding?
[20:12] <dalek_> zykes-, I don't think so
[20:13] <dalek_> zykotick9, I don't think so
[20:13] <zykotick9> dalek_: "apt-cache policy totem" and check the URL that it's coming from.  Is is a PPA?
[20:13] <guntbert> lotus: the usual way is to enable ssh-agent forwarding with ssh -A  , then the key you use to connect to the first server will be presented to the next one as well
[20:14] <escott> lotus, to be honest i dont really know what it does, just throwing out a thing to check
[20:15] <__Alex_> Is there a way i can mount a UFS USB stick with a GPT table in Ubuntu?
[20:19] <kalrak> I wish know how i can make a usb bootable ubuntu, I don't refer to a live version, I refer to a full installation, its posible?
[20:19] <lotus> guntbert: what if ssh-agent is not running on the machine I'm ssh-ing into?
[20:19] <kalrak> there is some problem with the file system ?
[20:19] <zykotick9> kalrak: just install to the USB?
[20:20] <SunTsu> lotus: that's what ssh-agent-forwarding is for: you forward ssh-agent-requests over your ssh connection to your local agent
[20:20] <lotus> SunTsu: <3 !
[20:20] <guntbert> lotus: no need, ssh itself provides the forwarding
[20:20] <SunTsu> lotus: guntbert told you that quite some time ago ;)
[20:20] <lotus> guntbert & SunTsu & escott: thank you so much.
[20:20] <lotus> oh, I didn't see :P
[20:21] <SunTsu> lotus: but beware, configuration needs to allow it
[20:21] <__Alex_> kalrak: I got it once working, i loaded the mini.iso to the USB stick using the cat command, booted it, selected the USB stick as where i wanted to install (had to make a new partition table), once installed, i had to choose LiLo as my bootloader, and it booted Ubuntu!
[20:21] <kalrak> zykotick9:  yes, a full instalation, not a live version
[20:21] <lotus> SunTsu: Configuration on the client or on the server being connected to?  I can access either :P
[20:21] <zykotick9> kalrak: right, just point the installer to install to your USB instead of HD.
[20:22] <kalrak> zykotick9:  thanks
[20:22] <SunTsu> lotus: both, your server needs to allow it, your local client needs to request forwarding
[20:23] <__Alex_> kalrak: IDK why, but GRUB gave me error messages, but LiLo worked, so all's right.
[20:23] <Bersam> hi everybody! how can i update my package lists in offline mode? (i have two pc but can't make connection for one of them.)
[20:23] <zykotick9> !aptoncd | Bersam
[20:23] <wylde> !offline | Bersam
[20:24] <lotus> SunTsu: Okay, I can request forwarding with ssh -A and then I can just edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and add a line or somesuch?  I'm googling to find the ssh config line right now.  Thank you for your help.
[20:24] <Bersam> wylde: i know this ... but this pc never updated so there's no package to select and use that download script
[20:24] <SunTsu> lotus: er, why googling when there's a man page for sshd_config?
[20:24] <Bersam> zykotick9: i have archlinux on this one ...
[20:24] <lotus> SunTsu: found it :)  it's ssh_config I needed to edit
[20:25] <zykotick9> Bersam: good luck - i have no suggestions.
[20:25] <Bersam> zykotick9: thanks at all :)
[20:25] <wylde> Bersam then checkout aptoncd.  that zykotick9 linked :)
[20:25] <Helius> I need to install 64bit library on 32bit host for cross compiling is it possible ?
[20:26] <escott> Helius no
[20:26] <zykotick9> Helius: other way round is possible
[20:26] <escott> Helius, technically you could cross compile but you could not execute or link the binary
[20:26] <ikache> hi!
[20:27] <ikache> can i ask some quetions?
[20:27] <zykotick9> !ask | ikache
[20:27] <Helius> escott:  I'm trying to compile a 64 bit lib on travis-ci bit their vm should be 32 bit
[20:29] <vexaxv> hey guys how do i get better fps on games on linux
[20:29] <vexaxv> ill play games on windows and i get good fps same games on linux i get lower, with the proprietary drivers activated
[20:29] <__Alex_> vexaxv: Wine?
[20:29] <zykotick9> vexaxv: what video card?
[20:30] <vexaxv> not wine its HON raden 4200
[20:30] <vexaxv> radeon*
[20:30] <vexaxv> i get good fps on even l4d2 at max graphics on windows
[20:30] <vexaxv> linux is like..
[20:30] <vexaxv> laggin dunno why
[20:30] <vexaxv> i was thinkin it might have something to do with opengl
[20:31] <__Alex_> vexaxv: My question is, is the game a native Linux one, or do you use Wine, or emulate windows in VirtualBox or Qemu?
[20:31] <drcoder> quit
[20:31] <ikache> je suis un debutant, donc il faut bien savoir que j'ai pas d'experience, pour ....
[20:31] <vexaxv> hon has a native linux client
[20:31] <vexaxv> thats what i use
[20:32] <zykotick9> !fr | ikache
[20:32] <ikache> thank's
[20:32] <rinzler> What is the command that I need to use to make a drive bootable to ubuntu?
[20:33] <escott> rinzler, there is not command to make it bootable, it either is bootable or it isn't. what is the problem you are having
[20:34] <eat7herich> hi there
[20:34] <Brooks> I am reviving a dormant PC that ran Ubuntu 10.04LTS. Before upgrading, I installed the recommended updates, some of which failed to install. Then it just hung in the bugfix report script. So I downloaded the current ver. 11.1 64 bit on another machine and burned it to CD and tried to boot to the CD, but it won't. The BIOS is set to look first to the CD drive but it doesn't recognize the bootable CD and flips over to the corrupt 10.4
[20:34] <__Alex_> rinzler:iirc, dd if=bootcode.bin of=/dev/GEOM bs=512 count=1, where bootcode.bin is your bootcode, and /dev/GEOM is your devide name
[20:34] <vexaxv> any ideas???
[20:34] <Jordan_U> rinzler: "Make a drive bootable" is not a clear goal. Do you want to have an entire Ubuntu installation on this drive, do you want to stick a bootloader there which will load Ubuntu from another drive, do you want a LiveUSB of Ubuntu which can itself be used to boot Ubuntu's installer?
[20:35] <SunTsu> vexaxv: first of all: get rid of those extra question marks ;)
[20:35] <vexaxv> SunTsu, eh..
[20:35] <__Alex_> *device name
[20:35] <BryanRuiz> im opening up the printer section of gnome-control--center adn i cant seem to click "add printer"
[20:35] <BryanRuiz> any ideas? trying to get something printed
[20:35] <Brooks> I want to boot and install from a CD.
[20:35] <vexaxv> so does anyone know how to get better fps in games on linux (native) is it opengl or the drivers?
[20:35] <SunTsu> vexaxv: second: Did you try some opengl benchmarks to see if your performance is OK?
[20:36] <vexaxv> SunTsu, to be honest i havent and i dont know of any off the top of my  head could u recommend some?
[20:36] <Xunie> Alright, I need libc6-dev:i386 to be installed to compile this program I have, however, installing that results in apt-get removing gcc (amd64).
[20:36] <SunTsu> vexaxv: glgears should do as a first glance
[20:36] <Xunie> So, how do I resolve this?
[20:36] <escott> BryanRuiz, are you a member of lpadmin group? (type `groups` in terminal). you can also try browsing to http://localhost:631 and trying to set things up there
[20:36] <vexaxv> SunTsu, first glance? is it a good benchmark?
[20:36] <dalek_> zykotick9, I removed a ppa, uninstalled totem and tried to re-install... now it won't install at all - http://paste.ubuntu.com/930078/
[20:36] <BryanRuiz> escott: great thanks, let me give that a shot
[20:37] <rinzler> Jordan_U: Restoring entire partition's contents to new drive using déjà dup after boot drive failure, and i just want to make sure my computer will boot to it...
[20:37] <SunTsu> vexaxv: no, it's not, but it would show you if opengl was seriously broken with your card to begin with
[20:37] <zykotick9> dalek_: did you use ppa-purge to remove the ppa?
[20:37] <vexaxv> SunTsu, k so what do i use after that for a good benchmark?
[20:38] <Jordan_U> rinzler: Then follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[20:38] <rinzler> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[20:38] <__Alex_> rinzler: If you want to install GRUB on the drive, this command use: "grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory="/path/to/where/USB/stick/is/mounted" /dev/GEOM", and then create a /path/to/where/USB/stick/is/mounted/boot/grub.cfg with your boot options
[20:38] <Jordan_U> rinzler: You're welcome.
[20:38] <BryanRuiz> isnt this how I add myself to a group? $ sudo usermod -G lp bryan
[20:38] <escott> BryanRuiz, -a -a -a !!!! must have -a
[20:39] <zykotick9> BryanRuiz: you just removed yourself from all other groups if you ran that!
[20:39] <dalek_> zykotick9, er... no. I removed with software sources app.
[20:39] <BryanRuiz> did i screw it up escott :-p
[20:39] <Jordan_U> rinzler: You may also need to edit /etc/fstab to update the UUIDs, depending on how exactly Déjà Dup works.
[20:39] <BryanRuiz> crap
[20:39] <zykotick9> dalek_: bad idea probably... i can't help you further sorry.
[20:39] <SunTsu> vexaxv: there's plenty: http://www.opengl.org/resources/benchmarks/
[20:39] <BryanRuiz> i thought the captial G means append
[20:39] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | dalek_
[20:39] <Somelauw> Hi, before I upgraded my ubuntu, I manually installed a newer version of transmission manually. (Probably by running a makefile). Now that I upgraded, what is the best way to remove the unpackaged version of transmission?
[20:39] <Kaco> Somefellow, make uninstall
[20:40] <escott> BryanRuiz, yeah if you forgot the -a then you are going to have to boot a livecd or boot to rescue to be able to add yourself back to the admin group
[20:40] <Kaco> Somelauw, ^^ :)
[20:40] <Somelauw> Okay, so ppa-purge transmission-gtk?
[20:40] <BryanRuiz> im still part of root and group is working escott
[20:40] <vexaxv> SunTsu, thanks
[20:40] <BryanRuiz> err i mean sudo
[20:40] <Kaco> Somelauw, make uninstall will work if you still have the source directory
[20:40] <zykotick9> BryanRuiz: are you using debian?
[20:40] <BryanRuiz> no, ubuntu
[20:41] <zykotick9> BryanRuiz: ubuntu uses admin, not sudo group...
[20:41] <BryanRuiz> uses admin for what zykotick9, the printer group?
[20:41] <zykotick9> BryanRuiz: oh, are you using 12.04?
[20:41] <martman> i just installed 12.04 beta, installed gnome panel, rebooted and now i cant move or resize windows
[20:41] <martman> i only see file menus
[20:41] <martman> no title bars
[20:41] <BryanRuiz> zykotick9: i dont think so
[20:41] <zykotick9> BryanRuiz: admin allows sudo access
[20:41] <martman> anyone how the hell this happened?
[20:41] <Somelauw> Kaco: Maybe it was a ppa, since I can't find the makefile anymore, I'll take a look at /etc/sources.list
[20:42] <BryanRuiz> zykotick9: i added myself to sudoers
[20:42] <SunTsu> vexaxv: there's more, apt-get should offer you some options
[20:42] <guntbert> !12.04 | martman
[20:42] <BryanRuiz> zykotick9: but ill keep in mind
[20:42] <BryanRuiz> thanks
[20:42] <zykotick9> BryanRuiz: i see.
[20:42] <doktah> I use xubuntu.... can I still chat here?
[20:42] <Somelauw> Okay, I found it, it was actually a ppa.
[20:43] <martman> ....yea i dont think thats a real channel
[20:43] <vexaxv> SunTsu, im downloading specviewperf
[20:43] <zykotick9> doktah: yes.  any official distro can get support here (or in the specialized channels)
[20:43] <physically_fit> so has aynone solved the reverberating sound you get while using flash?
[20:43] <__Alex_> doktah: Yes, since Xubuntu is jsut Ubuntu with different packages installed as default
[20:43] <doktah> cool
[20:43] <doktah> I didn't know that
[20:44] <doktah> is this a help channel?
[20:44] <__Alex_> doktah: Of course
[20:44] <Somelauw> But they are commented.
[20:45] <jacquesmartin> j
[20:45] <Somelauw> Actually, I don't know whether I am using the ppa or the ubuntu-repository version? How can I check?
[20:45] <paulo_> how do i find my free ram on through terminal?
[20:45] <jacquesmartin> hi can anyone help me install a live image of gnome
[20:45] <escott> paulo_, free -m
[20:46]  * doktah slurps his coffee
[20:46] <guntbert> doktah: this channel is *only* for support
[20:46] <paulo_> total: 237        used: 229          free:8
[20:46] <jacquesmartin> help!
[20:46] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: Can you tell us exactly what you mean/plan to do?
[20:46] <paulo_> is that bad?
[20:47] <__Alex_> paulo_: Not if you have SWAP
[20:47] <escott> paulo_, how much is used for cache look at the free+cache line
[20:47] <vexaxv> is specviewerperf a good opengl benchmark guys
[20:47] <jacquesmartin> well I installed a live image of gnome onto the flash drive but when I restart with flash drive inserted it will not install gnome. do I need to select a boot device if so how do i do it?
[20:47] <BryanRuiz> escott: i added myself to "lp" but didnt seem to help, is there another group that might work? for adding printers
[20:48] <paulo_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[20:48] <paulo_> Mem:           237        229          8          0          3        172
[20:48] <paulo_> -/+ buffers/cache:         54        183
[20:48] <paulo_> Swap:           51         40         11
[20:48] <BryanRuiz> escott: there was no lpadmin
[20:48] <kpow> xx
[20:48] <escott> BryanRuiz, is cupsd installed and running?
[20:48] <BryanRuiz> escott: yep, localhost:631 works, but didnt try adding there yet
[20:48] <BryanRuiz> escott: wanted to do it through gnome like i used to
[20:48] <paulo_> is it ok?
[20:48] <zykotick9> !atemyram | paulo_
[20:49] <jacquesmartin> anyone?
[20:49] <paulo_> thanks.
[20:49] <BryanRuiz> escott: maybe im wrong, and its not running
[20:49] <escott> BryanRuiz, if you can access the web server on 631 it must be running
[20:49] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: If you want to boot a Live GNOME OS, you have to A: choose your boot device to be the USB stick, or B: Change your boot order to check USB sticks before hard drives
[20:49] <fira> Hi there
[20:50] <BryanRuiz> k
[20:50] <jacquesmartin> alex, how do I select the boot device to a usb stick?
[20:51] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: It warries from BIOS to BIOS. It is ussually the F12 key
[20:51] <fira> I wanted to install something from an ubuntu LiveUSB, and as such use gparted to check/correct stuff about my current partition table
[20:51] <jacquesmartin> when should I press F12
[20:51] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: Many BIOSes don't even support this finction. I recommand changing the boot order, it's easier
[20:51] <jacquesmartin> how?
[20:51] <fira> However the display is all messed up (two of the partitions are merged together, and the 3rd is shown as unallocated)
[20:51] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: In BIOS
[20:52] <jacquesmartin> what is it how to I get there how do I do it?
[20:52] <fira> Is there somehow i can install proper NTFS support ? Because i did create those with gparted on a LiveUSB last year, and it worked fine
[20:52] <Xtreme> hello guys,  how can i view hidden files n folders?
[20:52] <SunTsu> Xtreme: there are no hidden files
[20:52] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: On most computers, spamming the <DELETE> key once the computer is at it's initial screen will take you to the BIOS settings
[20:52] <zykotick9> Xtreme: ctrl+h in nautilus, or "ls -a" in terminal
[20:53] <jacquesmartin> initial screen?
[20:53] <zykotick9> SunTsu: things starting with . are hidden
[20:53] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: Yes
[20:53] <Xtreme> and for dolphine?? kde explorer?
[20:53] <zykotick9> Xtreme: I wouldn't know.
[20:53] <jacquesmartin> ok ill try, any risks?
[20:53] <SunTsu> zykotick9: which is merely a convention, and it depends on what you use to view the directory listing
[20:54] <fira> fu---- looks like it's just my partition table being completely broken
[20:54] <jacquesmartin> alex: any risks?
[20:54] <SunTsu> fira: gpart can recover lost partitions
[20:55] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: There is one, you can mess up your Boot order, but it's no big deal
[20:55] <fira> really?
[20:55] <jacquesmartin> i'll trynow thanks alot
[20:55] <fira> i'll have a look
[20:55] <__Alex_> jacquesmartin: Np
[20:55] <SunTsu> fira: really, it scans the disk for partitions and offers them so you can add them back into the partition table
[20:55] <fira> the data itself is all okay, the thing boots and gets recognized okay on win, but anything else show the table as broken
[20:56] <fira> kk
[20:56] <physically_fit> what was the name of the alternative flash player that can be used in my web browser?
[20:56] <BryanRuiz> escott: i found this: printers-cc-panel-WARNING **: Your system does not have the cups-pk-helper's policy "org.opensuse.cupspkhelper.mechanism.all-edit" installed. Please check your installation
[20:58] <escott> BryanRuiz, thats something policykit related i wouldnt worry about it
[20:58] <BryanRuiz> escott: that is why i cant install a printer though, isnt it?
[20:59] <escott> BryanRuiz, the fact that you dont have an lpadmin group confuses me. im not sure what to advise. what version of the OS is this
[20:59] <BryanRuiz> escott: 11.04 from an upgrade
[20:59] <physically_fit> i think it was flashvideoreplacer
[20:59] <BryanRuiz> escott: i could of screwed something up though
[21:00] <physically_fit> but it seems Chromium does not support it
[21:00] <escott> physically_fit, there are a couple open source flash version, gnash is one
[21:01] <physically_fit> escott, will it work embedded? will i be able to watch youtube, for example?
[21:01] <physically_fit> escott, will it work with Chromium?
[21:02] <escott> physically_fit, maybe not chromium now that they have their own plugin architecture
[21:02] <physically_fit> escott, ok, thanks for the feedback.
[21:04] <Ceedub2> hello room
[21:08] <physically_fit> escott, i renamed my flash (the .so file) and now youtube uses HTML5, at least i don't get the reverberating sound, but html5 crashes very often in chromium.
[21:09] <dalek_> zykotick9, ok.. I re-installed the ppa, then ppa-purged it, now totem re-installed properly and this time it works. Thanks.
[21:11] <dalek_> the source "ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3" is the root of all evil - that was the cause of totem not working after yesterday's software update. Grrrrrr >:(
[21:12] <auronandace> dalek_: why are you using a ppa for gnome3?
[21:12] <zivester> does anyone know of a way to prevent a shell from hanging when trying to work on a directory that has a mounted directory that may have disconnected? for instance `ls /mnt/` when an nfs mount has gone away... doing this, i can't even Ctrl-C it to close, im forced to close the terminal
[21:13] <dalek_> auronandace, I can't recall... something I did weeks ago suggested I needed that ppa for something. I don't remember why.
[21:13] <auronandace> dalek_: ppas cause all sorts of problems, as you no doubt have noticed
[21:13] <dalek_> auronandace, indeed.
[21:14] <kerim> hello
[21:14] <auronandace> kerim: greetings
[21:14] <DinoHB> oin
[21:16] <bekks> zivester: There is no way to avoid that in general. You could mount the nfs share with the soft option and with the nointr option.
[21:17] <zivester> bekks thanks, ill look into those options... what odd behavior
[21:23] <PutItOnTheRitz> ubottu.com?
[21:23] <PutItOnTheRitz> What's that?
[21:42] <mouth1> hi
[21:42] <mouth1> my bios is set to ahci and power mode to s3, is that as stable as the default settings for ubuntu?
[21:42] <mouth1> default biod settings*
[21:42] <mouth1> bios*
[21:43] <playuo> hey, if I want to change my term's colors, what conf file do I put the new colors in?
[21:43] <Bodsda> playuo: if your using gnome-terminal, go to the 'Edit > Profile Preferences' menu
[21:43] <bekks> mouth1: It is as stable as other settings, but yes.
[21:43] <playuo> Bodsda: but what conf file? Because someone just pasted 10 lines to me, and I wish to use these
[21:44] <playuo> Bodsda: specifically, these: https://github.com/nanotech/jellybeans.vim/blob/master/ansi-term-colors.txt
[21:44] <mouth1> bekks: is it not as stable?
[21:44] <Bodsda> playuo: they are just generic colour codes - name, rgb value and hex value
[21:44] <X-tonic> I have ubuntu 11.10 . However I need to downgrade my gcc from 4.5 to 4.4. How do i go about this?
[21:45] <playuo> Bodsda: so I should manually set them by going to Edit > Profile Preference, youŕe saying?
[21:45] <Bodsda> playuo: yeah, you can then set whatever colours you want.
[21:45] <javaholic> I'm looking for some suggested best methods for debugging grub blank screen syndrome
[21:45] <bekks> mouth1: I just said that it is as stable as other settings - and yes, the settings you chose are stable settings.
[21:46] <Bodsda> javaholic: shotgun approach, reinstall grub?
[21:46] <mouth1> bekks: ok thanks
[21:46] <mouth1> is there any bios setting that can make ubuntu not be stable anymore?
[21:46] <Bodsda> mouth1: no
[21:47] <mouth1> ok thanks guys!
[21:47] <mouth1> i had to set power mode to s3, ahci and HPET 64bit to make mac os x boot
[21:47] <Bodsda> mouth1: there are settings that can damage your hardware though
[21:47] <mouth1> and now i want to install ubuntu and was wondering if these settings are still right
[21:47] <mouth1> which can Bodsda ?
[21:47] <Bodsda> mouth1: they will be fine
[21:48] <bekks> mouth1: Again, "yes". :)
[21:48] <Bodsda> mouth1: easiest way to fry your hardware, overclock your CPU's and turn temperature failsafes off
[21:48] <mouth1> ah ok
[21:48] <mouth1> i didn't do that
[21:48] <Bodsda> i did :(
[21:48] <mouth1> oh snap...
[21:50] <javaholic> do you  know of a a good reference that explains the grub reinstall process?
[21:51] <Bodsda> javaholic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:52] <javaholic> will boot-repair from a LiveDVD do the job i want have i read that right?
[21:53] <Bodsda> javaholic: I don't know what you have read, but I do know that the link I gave you works
[21:54] <bkaaa> How would I install ubuntu to an external hd so i can boot from it? im on a live flashdrive atm
[21:54] <Mongey> ^^ I pretty much have the same question
[21:55] <Bodsda> bkaaa: during the installer, just point it to the external drive. The process is exactly the same
[21:55] <bekks> Mongey: Then pretty much ask it please :)
[21:55] <bkaaa> I tried that but when it boots it just shows a black screen with a blinking input line
[21:55] <mouth1> i just read that you have to set the HPET mode in BIOS accordingly to the bit of the OS? in my case that would be ubuntu 32 bit, right? 32 bit is the recommended
[21:55] <mouth1> again i just set this to 64 bit for mac os x to boot
[21:56] <bekks> mouth1: Unless you have a goo reason for installing 32Bit only, install the 64Bit version.
[21:56] <bekks> *good
[21:56] <mouth1> why is the 32 bit version "recommended" then on ubuntu.com? :/
[21:56] <Bodsda> bekks: care to give reasons for that advice
[21:56] <Mongey> I'm trying to install ubuntu  onto a partition on my second drive. I have windows on a ssd which is my primary drive
[21:57] <Bodsda> bkaaa: are you sure it is booting the external drive
[21:57] <bekks> Bodsda: In the last 10 years, I havent seen an issue with 64Bit Linux :)
[21:57] <shazzner> ok
[21:57] <__Alex_> mouth1: It's recommanded because not all packages are ported to amd64. Most are
[21:57] <Bodsda> bekks: ... ok, that statement pretty much sums up the validity of your advice. one word "flash"
[21:57] <shazzner> finally got ubuntu installed on this pos laptop
[21:58] <Mongey> I installed it but when I try to boot to the second drive I get an error from grub like "GRUB error: unknown filesystem, grub rescue"
[21:58] <SunTsu> mouth1: how much ram do you have?
[21:58] <bekks> Bodsda: Worked fine here. Another word: "multilib".
[21:58] <mouth1> 4GB and an intel i3 cpu
[21:58] <shazzner> however, it's primary screen is broken and it didn't autoswitch to the secondary monitor
[21:58] <Bodsda> Mongey: we will need the exact error please
[21:58] <bkaaa> Bodsda: Yeah, I selected it from bios.  the 8gb live usb boots fine though.  i selected use entire disk and did automated install on the hd.
[21:58] <shazzner> so I'm staring at two blank screens :(
[21:58] <__Alex_> mouth1: Use the amd64 version
[21:58] <SunTsu> mouth1: then I'd go 64bit. At least I do with my boxes
[21:58] <shazzner> any way I can force it to clone to the second monitor?
[21:59] <mouth1> why amd64?
[21:59] <mouth1> does it matter that i have an intel cpu?
[21:59] <Mongey> mouth1: no
[21:59] <Bodsda> bekks: we could get into the whole 32vs64 argument, or we could just agree that you said 10 years when you should have said 2 and leave it there.
[21:59] <delac> I installed broadcom STA drivers through jockey, and the wlan worked correctly but after restart it was disabled. Doing rmmod ssb and modprobe wl, the wlan starts to work again. So the problem is that the right kernel modules do not "stick". Any help?
[21:59] <SunTsu> mouth1: amd64 is the architecture. Intel took the one amd built
[22:00] <bekks> Bodsda: I still say 10y.
[22:00] <bekks> 11Whatever you might think about that.
[22:00] <Bodsda> your wrong then, but whatever
[22:01] <__Alex_> mouth1: amd64 is the Architecture name, not the brand name
[22:01] <mouth1> ok thanks
[22:02] <bkaaa> Do i need to partiton the external or use advanced install?
[22:02] <Mongey> ok so my error is just error: unknown filesystem
[22:02] <escott> Mongey, what FS are you using
[22:03] <Mongey> EXT4 on the ubuntu partiition
[22:03] <Bodsda> bkaaa: you shouldn't need to no. I would guess the problem is with the bootloader. Did you say you selected the boot device from the bios menu, and then didn't get a grub prompt, or you booted as normal and selected the new install from the grub prompt, and then got nothing?
[22:03] <Mongey> NTFS on the other partition
[22:03] <Bodsda> Mongey: when do you see that error?
[22:04] <Mongey> Bodsda: when I try to boot
[22:04] <Mongey> right after I select it in the boot menu
[22:04] <Bodsda> Mongey: be specific. When you press eneter after highlighting an entry from grub?
[22:04] <Bodsda> ok
[22:04] <bkaaa> i selected it from bios and then didnt get grub.  just a black screen with flashing line
[22:05] <Bodsda> Mongey: get back to the grub prompt, highlight the entry, press 'e' and maybe 'e' again, can't remember. Either way you should end up seeing the exact boot line that it uses. This will list either the partition name like /dev/sda1 or the uuid - note down whatever that is, then reboot into a working system and check the filesystem of that volume
[22:05] <bkaaa> when i select the 8gb usb in bios it just boots straight to it though
[22:06] <Bodsda> bkaaa: thats because the bootloader is installed on the usb stick. You'll need to install grub to the external drive, or one of your internal drives
[22:06] <bkaaa> Bodsda: ooh i see.  I thought it installed grub as well to the external.
[22:07] <Bodsda> bkaaa: hmm, I can' be certain - it may have just added an entry to your usb sticks grub menu
[22:08] <Mongey> Bodsda: Sorry, I don't get to a grub screen, I select my second drive from my bios and then "error:unknown filesystem \n grub rescue>" comes up.
[22:08] <gouchmister> I am recruiting software engineers to a collaborative development company. Anyone interested?
[22:09] <Joestar79> hi there
[22:09] <Joestar79> Can anyone please translate "setfacl -Rm u:www-data:rwx logs" and "setfacl -Rm u:www-data:rx pydocs" with the equivalent chmod commands?
[22:09] <bkaaa> So i should install grub to it then run the ubuntu installer?
[22:09] <Bodsda> Mongey: ooo, thats weird. I think its gonna be a reinstall of grub, or at least a manual change to the grub conf file. See if this link helps http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-error-unknown-filesystem-grub-rescue-781125/
[22:09] <gouchmister> I am recruiting software engineers to a collaborative development company. Anyone interested?
[22:09] <Bodsda> gouchmister: take it elsewhere, this is a support channel
[22:09] <gouchmister> sorry about that!
[22:10] <Bodsda> thanks
[22:10] <escott> Joestar79, i dont think there are equivalent chmod commands. its maybe closest to having multiple "groups" associated with a single file
[22:10] <Bodsda> bkaaa: just install grub to the external drive. Follow the same methodology for 'reinstalling grub after windows removes it' type guides
[22:11] <bkaaa> Bodsda: Alright.  Thanks ill give it a try.
[22:13] <Joestar79> escott: those are directories
[22:13] <Joestar79> I tried with chmod and chgrp but doesn't seem to get the same result
[22:13] <escott> Joestar79, file directory, whats the difference
[22:14] <escott> Joestar79, it won't acl's allow you to have multiple users or multiple groups owning a single file.
[22:14] <Joestar79> just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing
[22:28] <Mongey> Bodsda: worked, thanks man
[22:29] <Bodsda> Mongey: excellent
[22:29] <b14d3> Anyone mind helping me out with Samba sharing from 11.10 to Win7?
[22:29] <compdoc> is samba running?
[22:30] <b14d3> Yes it is, and I can run smbtree and it shows my share. I just can't get anything to connect to it.
[22:31] <compdoc> windows 7 needs a change in group policy to allow it to use a certain type of password security
[22:31] <sirknight> agreed
[22:31] <b14d3> compdoc: Found some forum posts online and followed that. Still getting the same thing. A friend of mine even tried his Mac, and it's doing the same thing.
[22:32] <b14d3> compdoc: Sorry, unclear sentence. I found some forum posts online ABOUT the change to group policy. And followed those.
[22:32] <shazzner> I am really at my wits end here, cause I'm literally driving blind
[22:32] <shazzner> my laptop's primary screen is broken
[22:33] <shazzner> trying to swtich to the second monitor
[22:33] <shazzner> the second monitor works and displays fine on the livecd
[22:33] <compdoc> b14d3, is it possible to show me what you changed? whats the url?
[22:33] <shazzner> when I boot into ubuntu it turns off that display
[22:33] <shazzner> how on earth can I swtich it if I can't see? :(
[22:35] <compdoc> brb
[22:35] <b14d3> compdoc: http://superuser.com/questions/115337/windows-7-connecting-to-samba-shares
[22:35] <wylde> shazzner: if you can find the documentation for your laptop, there should be a key combination to switch your display between the laptops display and external display..
[22:35] <compdoc> you selected "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated"
[22:35] <compdoc> ?
[22:36] <compdoc> brb
[22:36] <b14d3> compdoc: Yeah, that's one of the things I did. I can't find the other page that I was using, that reduced the requirements of password security.
[22:36] <shazzner> wylde: I've tried the key combination that should switch monitors, doesn't work though :/
[22:37] <wylde> shazzner: or you can do what I did with an old dell laptop. I physically removed the broken screen from the laptop and it then defaulted to the external display.
[22:37] <shazzner> wylde: ha, I'm not sure I'm at that point yet but I'll add that to my list of options
[22:38] <shazzner> wylde: the problem is, everything works ok on the livecd. I don't know why it would suddenly turn off the second display once I booted in proper
[22:38] <wylde> shazzner: other than the key combo and removing the broken screen that's all the ideas I have atm.
[22:38] <shazzner> :(
[22:38] <wylde> shazzner: I think the live cd mirrors all displays by default
[22:39] <wylde> shazzner: but once installed it will only work on what the system thinks is the primary display
[22:39] <wylde> shazzner: at least until comfigured differently
[22:39] <wylde> configured*
[22:40] <nocturnus> hello!
[22:41] <nocturnus> can somebody help me please?
[22:41] <wylde> shazzner: if you wanted to do the research or can get someone good with bash scripting, you could possibly work out a boot script to configure the external display as primary.
[22:42] <nocturnus> i have a problem with my ethernet conection
[22:42] <wylde> !details | nocturnus
[22:42] <nocturnus> ok
[22:43] <nocturnus> i'm running kubuntu oneiric ocelot
[22:43] <shazzner> wylde: I'm trying to blind install openssh-server so I can at least edit the configs and such
[22:43] <shazzner> wylde: not easy :(
[22:43] <nocturnus> i have a rotuer D-link DCM G-202
[22:43] <nocturnus> wifi conection works very good
[22:44] <nocturnus> but ethernet coenction doesn't work+
[22:44] <nocturnus> the ethernet controller is Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[22:44] <mkanyicy> !enter | nocturnus
[22:45] <nocturnus> ok, sorry
[22:46] <shazzner> wylde: what is the config file the open source drivers use? Xorg.conf isn't present
[22:47] <nocturnus> when i plug the wire the light of the ethernet coenction doesn't bright. that's everything
[22:47] <wylde> shazzner: I'm pretty sure openssh-server automatically starts after install. I wonder if putting 'apt-get -y install openssh-server' in rc.local would work. Then remove it after you have ssh access
[22:47] <wylde> nocturnus: try a different cable, the lights will come on if they have a connection.
[22:48] <nocturnus> well, the conection works because i tried a laptop with win 7 and it worked very well
[22:48] <shazzner> wylde: hmm ok I'll try that
[22:48] <wylde> shazzner: I believe the current x-org doesn't use it unless you specifically need it for speacial hardware/support.
[22:49] <wylde> nocturnus: with the same cable?
[22:49] <nocturnus> yes
[22:49] <nocturnus> i think that the problem is in the realtek drivers
[22:49] <b14d3> compdoc : Just let me know when you're back :)
[22:49] <nocturnus> so i did this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/no-network-detected-realtek-8111-8168-issue-615047/
[22:50] <wylde> nocturnus: and you made sure the cable was seated properly I assume. Realtek in my experience seems to be pretty well supported. I could be wrong though.
[22:50] <nocturnus> yes wylde
[22:53] <Tech-1> jsut installed radiotray  this is the output:  http://pastebin.com/7cgLx5V9
[22:53] <wylde> nocturnus: did you download the driver mentioned in that thread?
[22:54] <nocturnus> wylde: i downloaded the driver that my pc needs, from the site of realtek
[22:54] <scar3crow> can I dedicate disk space and page space for a wubi install?
[22:55] <wylde> nocturnus and you installed it?
[22:55] <nocturnus> yes
[22:55] <ox1de> hi.. i'm having a problem with my laptop. it wont boot properly.. on load I get this message:
[22:55] <ox1de> No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[22:55] <ox1de> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[22:55] <ox1de> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[22:55] <ox1de> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023]  GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[22:55] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <ox1de> what should id o?
[22:56] <wylde> nocturnus: did you blacklist the r1869?
[22:56] <b14d3> Anyone else fairly good with Samba?
[22:56] <nocturnus> wylde: i downloaded the drivers from realtek site and in the folder there's a readme file that explain what to do an d i did it
[22:57] <wylde> nocturnus: and that all completed succesfully?
[22:57] <nocturnus> wylde: yes
[22:57] <nocturnus> wylde: i blaclist the r1869 but i don't know if it is a good idea...
[22:58] <urbancommando> oh by the way wylde, ty I set my second hd as my /home
[22:58] <wylde> nocturnus: what output do you get from 'lsmod grep "r8169" '
[22:58] <wylde> urbancommando: glad I could help :)
[22:59] <nocturnus> wylde: Usage: lsmod
[22:59] <wylde> nocturnus: ahh ok
[22:59] <b14d3> compdoc : Need to reboot this machine, I'll be right back
[22:59] <wylde> nocturnus: how about 'lsmod | grep "r8168"
[23:00] <nocturnus> wylde: r8168                 202040  0
[23:00] <wylde> nocturnus: ok, hmmm. Moment.
[23:01] <nocturnus> wylde: ok, and thank very very much for your help
[23:01] <wylde> nocturnus: and you did   sudo update-initramfs -u ?
[23:01] <nocturnus> wylde: no
[23:01] <wylde> nocturnus: glad to help. Lots of questions I know but I can't see what's happening :)
[23:02] <nocturnus> wylde: no problem, i get the sense
[23:02] <_pHI_> Should i run an external LCD monitor (restricted to VGA, not DVI connector) at 60 or 75Hz if the display supports both?
[23:03] <wylde> nocturnus: ok please do that and reboot. Come on back after, hopefully with a working Nic :)
[23:03] <ox1de> can anybody help me?
[23:03] <nocturnus> wylde: all right my friend!
[23:03] <nocturnus> i'm doing it!
[23:03] <wylde> _pHI_: highest rate gives less flicker and is easier on the eyes.
[23:04] <_pHI_> wylde: thanks! i guess i wsa just confused if this (still) holds for LCDs in general...
[23:04] <wylde> _pHI_: generally you can go with the highest listed. You only have to down rate it if it's causing issues.
[23:04] <_pHI_> ok great
[23:04] <ox1de> d(o_0)b
[23:05] <_pHI_> on DVI i'm limited to 60Hz it seems, on VGA plug i can go up to 75Hz
[23:05] <bekks> ! ask | ox1de
[23:05] <wylde> _pHI_: that seems off to me. Although I'm no pro on the subject.
[23:06] <_pHI_> ok thanks!
[23:06] <b14d3> Back
[23:06] <b14d3> compdoc, you still afk?
[23:06] <escott> _pHI_, you should just use dvi. you dont know what the lcd is doing, can the panel actually support a 75Hz refresh?
[23:06] <wylde> ox1de: I honestly don't know if you can fix that issue outside of a re-install. I'm not positive though.
[23:07] <_pHI_> escott: xrandr is reporting 75 on vga (and i'm using that) and 60hz on dvi....
[23:07] <escott> _pHI_, but the vga signal could be downconverted. going vga means you are converting digital->analog->digital. and you dont know what is happening in that last conversion
[23:08] <ox1de> so i'm toast eh
[23:08] <ox1de> :(
[23:08] <_pHI_> escott: i guess i don't know...
[23:08] <b14d3> compdoc : I figured it out! I had a homegroup set up that messed it all up.
[23:08] <_pHI_> escott: but my laptop only has vga out
[23:08] <compdoc> b14d3, cool :)
[23:08] <_pHI_> i guess i'm asking if 60hz vs 75 hz on vga will make a difference
[23:08] <_pHI_> escott: the panel is advertized as supporting 75hz on vga
[23:08] <_pHI_> so i guess i'll set that
[23:09] <wylde> ox1de: I juust don't know of any way to fix that problem. Get another opinion I would say.
[23:09] <escott> _pHI_, send the best analog signal you can send, just know there is a converter going back to digital before it gets displayed. just because you send 75Hz doesn't mean it will display 75Hz is my point
[23:10] <_pHI_> escott: ah ok! good to know. thanks!
[23:11] <escott> _pHI_, i thought you were deciding between using a dvi cable which advertised 60Hz and an analog advertising 75Hz and I would say pick the digital, but if its analog vs analog go for the highest numbers
[23:12] <_pHI_> ok thanks, i'll do that! ;)
[23:12] <_pHI_> have a great WE
[23:13] <permafrost> hi wylde permafrost=nocturnus
[23:15] <permafrost> wylde the ethernet doesn't works yet... :(
[23:23] <wylde> permafrost: :(
[23:23] <wylde> was afk
[23:25] <permafrost> wylde: hi
[23:25] <permafrost> i 've change the nick
[23:25] <lsv> one quick question for all my linux friends here.  Does anyone knows how are the files in ~/.thumbnails/normal named?
[23:26] <wylde> permafrost: I saw :)
[23:26] <permafrost> wylde: right
[23:27] <permafrost> wylde: the trick doesn't work
[23:28] <wylde> permafrost: yeah :(  What output do you get from ifconfig ? Patebin it please.
[23:29] <miguel_33> hi
[23:29] <miguel_33> how is everyone
[23:29] <miguel_33> ??
[23:30] <Mrokii> hello. Does anybody know an app for Ubuntu that lets one dim the desktop, so that nothing but the currently opened windows and the background is black for example?
[23:37] <isaac_> Can anyone help me why some videos show up all pixelated and distorted at certain times. http://imgur.com/a/gBBNz for example.
[23:37] <isaac_> It does not do this in windows.
[23:38] <lsv> Is there a way to monitor a folder and see what programs write to it?
[23:38] <isaac_> I've tried with Gnome MPlayer, SMplayer, KMplayer, Movie player, VLC, and UMPlayer and they all distort at exactly the same places
[23:38] <muellisoft> hm Mrokii. I don't know such a thing but it sounds very useless to me.
[23:38] <Mrokii> It#s not useless if one is distracted by the icons on the desktop.
[23:38] <Muelli> lsv: sure. There is the concept of inotify and there are helper tools around that.
[23:39] <Tackeri> Does anyone know where to find information on How to install Ubuntu onto a Dell Optiplex 740 system? So far all info I can find lists that it is practically not possible.
[23:40] <Muelli> Mrokii: *shrug* GNOME Shell doesn't have any icons on the desktop by default. And well, you can easily remove the icons on the default Ubuntu desktop I presume.
[23:40] <vincenzo> ciao a tutti
[23:40] <tmkgno> lsv: lsof, cli program
[23:40] <Mrokii> Muelli: Not the option I'm looking for.
[23:41] <lsv> Muelli: inotify is are function calls so someone can write their own programs right?
[23:42] <Muelli> yeah, kinda. There's a helper thing whichs name I forgot.
[23:44] <martinphone> whats the command to scan?
[23:44] <Logan_> martinphone: Scan what
[23:44] <Logan_> ?
[23:45] <shazzner> if anyone can help me out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122129/switching-to-an-external-display-when-primary-is-broken
[23:45] <martinphone> Logan_, i have a scanner, and I cannot use PLIB, cause is not updated, so I must use the command line
[23:45] <martinphone> I dont have the command in the memory because I made a fresh install
[23:46] <Tackeri> PM me if you can give a quick explanation on updating EOL Ubuntu versions manually. My 9.04 Fails To Fetch updates every time I try. Thanks!
[23:47] <moonlightnewumbr> hey there it's someone? I need some help please
[23:47] <moonlightnewumbr> I need a driver for my graphics card which it's not working
[23:47] <Logan_> martinphone: scanimage (I believe)
[23:47] <moonlightnewumbr> could someone help me with my driver? In hardinfo says:
[23:48] <moonlightnewumbr> Intel Corporation N10
[23:49] <martinphone> Logan_, it wasnt so simple: I remember it had references to the seconds the scanning device had to wait from scan to scan and references to the number of scans to do
[23:49] <Logan_> Tackeri: "To upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, you must now use the Alternate CD upgrade method."
[23:50] <Logan_> martinphone: Not sure, sorry. :-(
[23:50] <martinphone> no worries
[23:50] <Tackeri> Logan: Thanks, I will download the Alt package. Will it boot from USB or only CD?
[23:50] <Logan_> Tackeri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades#Upgrades_via_alternate_CD <-- instructions
[23:50] <moonlightnewumbr> hey could someone help me with my driver or resolution please?
[23:51] <Logan_> Tackeri: I believe it requires a CD, according to those instructions.
[23:51] <Tackeri> Logan: Thanks, I will read up and return if any questions!
[23:52] <Logan_> Tackeri: Sure. :-) Note that you do have to go 9.04-->9.10, then 9.10-->10.04 (using the alternate CD method again), and then 10.04-->11.10.
[23:52] <Logan_> Tackeri: It may benefit you to just back up your files and then perform a clean installation of 11.10.
[23:52] <moonlightnewumbr> hey? could someone help me with my problem please?
[23:52] <Logan_> !patience | moonlightnewumbr
[23:53] <moonlightnewumbr> oh k thanx Logan_
[23:53] <moonlightnewumbr> and ubottu thanx
[23:53] <Tackeri> Logan: Yes, those are the instructions I found. Unfortunately with Dell Optiplex 740 systems, nothing after 9.04 would make it past the installation. Now I have to perform the updates/upgrades to make maintain a functional install.
[23:54] <Logan_> Tackeri: Er, actually, I'm wrong. You have to go 10.04-->10.10, then 10.10-->11.04, then 11.04-->11.10. It's a hassle, to say the least. :-P
[23:54] <Logan_> Tackeri: If you wait until the 26th, when 12.04 is release, you can go straight from 10.04 to 12.04.
[23:54] <Logan_> *released
[23:55] <Tackeri> Logan: Then I may just do 904 > 910 > 1004 and hold off til the update, thanks!
[23:55] <Mrokii> /leave
[23:55] <Logan_> Tackeri: Makes sense. No problem!
[23:55] <Mrokii> oops
[23:56] <Logan_> Tackeri: Which architecture are you on (i386 or amd64)? I can provide you with the links to the alternate ISOs if you need them.
[23:58] <Tackeri> Logan: It's an AMD X2 64
[23:59] <Logan_> Tackeri: You'll need http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso for the upgrade to 9.10
[23:59] <Logan_> Tackeri: And then http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso for the upgrade to 10.04
[23:59] <Logan_> Tackeri: And then just follow the instructions on the page that I linked to earlier.


[02:41] <Guest20519> valorie: I did register, but sometimes when I reconnect, it gets stuck
[02:41] <shirgall> See? :)
[03:38] <valorie> shirgall: what client do you use?
[03:38] <valorie> oh geez, I didn't set myself away
[03:39] <valorie> in konversation I set the /msg chanserv identify ME somewhere
[03:40] <valorie> although I don't remember now because I use the KDE znc instance instead
[04:51] <shirgall> valorie: I use irssi
[04:51] <shirgall> shirgall: sometimes when I reconnect it's too soon and my old connection has not fully left the building
[05:03] <valorie> I hear ya


[06:17] <nospi> anyone know how to setup a php web proxy so i can get to blocked sites from school?
[06:18] <nospi> brb
[05:29] <jhutchins> I have a client who has asked about having webmin on his server.  Are there sane, supported alternatives for ubuntu?
[05:31] <ivoks> oh no, not webmin again :)
[05:31] <ivoks> run, hide! :D
[05:33] <mralphabet> last I saw, there was "something more secure being developed"
[05:34] <ivoks> jhutchins: what does he needs webmin for?
[05:34] <ivoks> need
[05:36] <jhutchins> Wants a GUI to configure domains for the mailserver; it will be distributing a mailing list.
[05:36] <jhutchins> Or rather several for several clients.  He plans to use phplist
[05:36] <jhutchins> http://phplist.com
[05:39] <ivoks> um... what's wrong with mailman?
[05:51] <jhutchins> I ain't arguin' with him, I'm just doin' what he asks.
[05:55] <ivoks> :)
[05:55] <ivoks> then download webmin and set it up
[05:59] <jhutchins> !webmin
[05:59] <jhutchins> What, no bot?
 webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:00] <ivoks> it's not supported
[06:00] <ivoks> but you can set it up
[10:21] <joe_k> Hi, i just installed ubuntu server 6.10 and i can't apt-get install xfs-tools.... i didn't setup the network on first install, do I need to redo a setup to get network package repos?
[10:22] <joe_k> Whoops, wrong package name. Thanks anyway!


[00:27] <chodson> Hey Guys, I am trying to directly ssh into a ubuntu container running on lxd. I've created it with a bridge but it keeps giving me permission denied (publickey)
[00:27] <chodson> the auth log on the container says that the lxd host ip is closing the connection
[00:34] <Epx998> hmm ive run into that problem before
[00:35] <sarnold> Epx998: do you recall what the solution was? i'm guessing either (a) the cloud-init didn't copy over the key or (b) the username didn't match
[00:35] <sarnold> pity he's already left and we'll never find out
[00:40] <Epx998> trying to remember what I was doing when I got that error
[00:45] <hehehe> chodson do u use appamor?
[00:46] <hehehe> lol should be penalty 5 usd if you quit within 30 min after asking question
[00:53] <Epx998> im ocd'ing on this centos7 kickstart cfg hmmm maybe i should go home
[05:02] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:19] <nacc> rbasak: fyi, i think you didn't push any tags for import of scim-chewing
[10:19] <nacc> rbasak: which breaks the linter
[10:20] <nacc> rbasak: or was the atomic thing  you were mentioning?
[14:07] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: one for you I think? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2017-July/017554.html
[14:36] <teward> sarnold: anything that's not a dynamic module will be static-compiled into that specific package.
[14:36] <teward> sarnold: email is faster by the way
[14:38] <teward> sarnold: wrt that specific module you pinged about, it's a dynamic module - `libnginx-mod-http-echo` - it can be added by a user at their discretion.
[14:38] <teward> there's a 'static' compile element and a 'dynamic' element - static compile is why all the flavors conflict with each other still because they still build static binaries.  Dynamic modules are the exception
[14:39] <teward> and they can be built and then included individually.
[14:39] <teward> sarnold: pre-1.12, everything's static compiled in, so it's only referenced at build time.
[14:40] <teward> 1.10.3 (Zesty/Artful) and 1.12.x are really the first time we've rolled out dynamic modules.
[14:40] <teward> but thats the standard now - if it can be built dynamically it needs to be added as its own package; if not, it needs to be static-compiled in.
[14:40] <teward> sarnold: we also have a modsecurity 'headache' - that thing isn't trivial to update.
[14:41] <teward> so if there's a 'patch' that needs to deploy to fix something in modsecurity we usually have to just update the whole module rather than nit-pick a patch.
[14:41] <teward> sarnold: also sorry for not being awake - yesterday was a cluster**** once I got home.
[17:30] <sarnold> teward: I'm sorry to hear it :( thanks for the information
[18:07] <teward> sarnold: no idea what version was in use, but if it's not got the libnginx-* module packages, they're all static compiled and that's referenced only during build time.
[18:07] <teward> just saying :)
[18:07] <sarnold> teward: <3
[18:26] <sbeattie> jamespage: hey, do you know what changed in ceph 12? samba in artful FTBFS against the version of cph in artful-proposed...
[19:23] <Steve[cloud]> lordievader: hey man, thanks for the help yesterday
[19:23] <Steve[cloud]> in case you may be interested, I eventually found a solution
[19:23] <Steve[cloud]> http://stevemcgrath.io/2017/07/docker-containers--network-sniffing/
[20:33] <GMBeniamin> Hello guys. Is this the right place to cry about having a problem regarding ubuntu server networking?
[20:37] <GMBeniamin> Anyone?
[20:42] <sarnold> GMBeniamin: you may get more results if you pastebin what's going on..
[20:44] <Epx998> network, 2 cups with a string between them. network.\
[20:45] <GMBeniamin> It's first time when I am trying this and I don't want to post walls of text in the wrong place.
[20:47] <GMBeniamin> I have a brand new supermicro SuperServer 6028R-TRT. I installed ubuntu server on it and I am trying to connect to internet. I am trying to do that via a MODEM + SWITCH (with management). However, even if it seems that it is configured correctly in /etc/network/interfaces, there is not internet connection. Using the same IP, Netmask, Gateway and DNS on a windows laptop the internet works.
[20:53] <sarnold> GMBeniamin: is your modem a NAT firewall? or simple bridge?
[20:53] <sarnold> GMBeniamin: if it's a NAT firewall, can you ping it directly?
[20:56] <GMBeniamin> I am still pretty new to networking in general so it may be difficult to speak the same language but: from the server I can ping my IP, not anything else. Also, I forgot to mention, I got a static IP. I can ping my gateway from outside my static connection.
[21:02] <Epx998> he said modem and I immediately thought dialup
[21:03] <Epx998> GMBeniamin: Did you verify your gateway?
[21:07] <GMBeniamin> I can ping the gateway from outside the network. How else could I check it? I think there is a problem with something I set up on the server because the same connection works great on the windows machine. The server has something called IPMI 2.0 but I could actually access it. I am using the right ethernet port.
[21:14] <Epx998> You can ping the gateway from an external IP, from your laptop but not the server?
[21:15] <GMBeniamin> Yeah. From an external IP I can ping the gateway. I can't ping it from inside the machine. From the machine I can only bing my main IP. However, I can ping the gateway externally even if the cable is not plugged in the server's port, which puzzles me even more.
[21:15] <Epx998> use pastebin to paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:16] <Epx998> and maybe output from route ?
[21:17] <Epx998> doh no one entered these new servers to dhcp
[21:18] <GMBeniamin> I have to learn how to use pastebin and I don't know how to copy the output from the server. Let me think of an efficient alternative.
[21:19] <sarnold> if it had internet access then the pastebinit tool would be very helpful :)
[21:20] <GMBeniamin> I am typing everything manually.
[21:22] <Epx998> i'd use pastebin
[21:22] <Epx998> or gist hub, nvidia blocks pastebin
[21:26] <GMBeniamin> https://pastebin.com/6Akfm3ei
[21:27] <GMBeniamin> Did my best in copying it exactly. I used route -n command and copied the results.
[21:32] <sarnold> GMBeniamin: I think the 'broadcast' is incorrect there, it shouldn't end with .255
[21:32] <sarnold> GMBeniamin: fiddling with http://www.subnet-calculator.com/cidr.php gives a range <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>  -- I think the .31 should be the broadcast address for your network, no?
[21:33] <GMBeniamin> I set up it up manually because I thought it must be *.255. Should I delete it from the interface or replace 255 with 31?
[21:33] <sarnold> try replacing the 255 with 31
[21:35] <GMBeniamin> I did and used sudo ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 for update. Used ifconfig and it got updated, but there is still no internet connection.
[21:37] <sarnold> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[21:39] <GMBeniamin> When I do that from the ubuntu machine is tells me: From <IP_ADDRESS> Destination Host Unreachable.
[21:40] <GMBeniamin> From another connection ping <IP_ADDRESS> works.
[21:42] <gheorghe_> ocata openstack-dashboard upstream is already 11.0.3, however ubuntu cloud ocata packages only deliver 11.0.2 ... is there any way to get in contact the packagers and ask them to update the packages?
[21:42] <gheorghe_> 11.0.2 has a bug that is really annoying. 11.0.3 fixes it
[22:13] <GMBeniamin> Any other suggestions?


[05:58] <dpm> good morning all
[06:20] <gtriderxc> hi
[07:37] <kelemengabor> Hi dpm, is is just me, or on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+language-packs the Request a full language pack export is still checked? The Natty exports should happen on Tuesdays.
[07:38] <dpm> hi kelemengabor, it seems that since recently full exports take longer than they used to, so I think it should only be ready by the end of the day. There is a bug about it, let me try to find it...
[07:38] <kelemengabor> or it just takes a loooong time?
[07:38] <kelemengabor> okay, I see :)
[07:39] <dpm> kelemengabor, bug 684664
[07:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 684664 in launchpad "Language pack exporter runs long; triggers alerts (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 13)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684664


[02:12] <Roey> hi
[02:13] <Roey> running "modprobe nvidia" gives me: modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-23-generic.  Before this, I ran the command apt-get install nvidia-390.  What gives?
[02:26] <Roey> I'm trying to figure out why the nvidia-390 package did not lay down an nvidia.ko under /lib/modules for this current kernel like it did for other kernels
[06:27] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:03] <nescius> hello, what is the kubuntu way to update from 17.10 to 18.04? the kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE" mentions updating from ubuntu 17.10 to ubuntu 18.04, thats not exactly correct
[10:03] <nescius> basically this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032152/problem-upgrading-kubuntu-17-10-to-18-04
[10:11] <santa_> nescius: at your own risk, you could add the "-d" option to do-release-upgrade, be careful, that might upgrade you to 18.10 instead
[10:28] <nescius> santa_: do you mean that kubuntu 18.04 was not released yet?
[10:30] <nescius> kubuntu bugzilla?
[10:42] <lordievader> nescius: I'm not entirely following what the problem is.
[10:45] <nescius> lordievader: check the above link - upgrading from Kubuntu 17.10 to Ubuntu 18.04.. I noticed that lsd-release contained Ubuntu 17.10, even it was installed as Kubuntu 17.10, I edited this before starting the upgrade, lets see..
[10:46] <lordievader> Kubuntu and Ubuntu are essentially the same thing, just a different set of desktop packages.
[10:47] <nescius> lordievader: thanks, i did not know that ;)
[10:47] <nescius> and I dont want any gnome packages installed..
[10:48] <lordievader> `do-release-upgrade` should not install any gnome packages, unless there is a package installed with a (new) dependency on them.
[10:49] <nescius> but it looks good, the thing which confused me the most is the dist upgrade page shown ubuntu and ubuntu release notes
[10:54] <santa_> nescius: 18.04 was released, but I think it wasn't activated inmediatly in the 'do-release-upgrade' script, in any case that script shouldn't swtich you to gnome like lordievader says
[10:56] <nescius> yes, lets see, if it will boot, I will tell you in a moment :)
[11:12] <nescius> ok, so my dist-upgrade ended in unuseable system, no gui, no internet, classics.. time to move a working distro
[11:13] <nescius> any tips?
[11:17] <nescius> do you know where the gui is supposed to run in 18.04? is it on the ctrl+alt+F2 (tty2) because i have shell there and f7 does not show anything
[11:18] <hateball> nescius: try "sudo service sddm restart"
[11:18] <nescius> yes, nothing happens
[11:18] <nescius> I think its stopped by the tty2 containing shell
[11:19] <nescius> but I have no clue where are those ttys defined and belive this was not updated correctly
[11:19] <viewer|83031> https://thepasteb.in/p/NxhVQx50qDyUN
[11:20] <nescius> no, sorry, something happens - i get switched to different screen which only contains _ and thats all
[11:24] <EvilRoey> Hi, running "modprobe nvidia" gives me: modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-23-generic.  Before this, I ran the command apt-get install nvidia-390.  What gives?  I'm trying to figure out why the nvidia-390 package did not lay down an nvidia.ko under /lib/modules for this current kernel like it did for other kernels
[11:37] <nescius> ..does the project need testers?
[11:37] <nescius> i work as one, and I would be interested in this, it would be nice to have dist upgrade working.. or purged if its working like this.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <diogenes_> hey
[12:30] <EvilRoey> diogenes_: oh hey
[12:30] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: hi!!
[12:30] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: running "modprobe nvidia" gives me: modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-23-generic.  Before this, I ran the command apt-get install nvidia-390.  What gives?  I'm trying to figure out why the nvidia-390 package did not lay down an nvidia.ko under /lib/modules for this current kernel like it did for other kernels
[12:43] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey:  do you have dkms installed?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey:  besises you should use driver manager to find the recommended driver for your nvidia gpu
[12:45] <EvilRoey> ok let me check
[12:45] <BluesKaj> and let it install the driver
[12:46] <EvilRoey> https://pastebin.com/FU4jESBT
[12:46] <EvilRoey> so that's a yes
[12:50] <BluesKaj> it should be, it's defualt, but since you insist on experimentataion I thought I'd better ask :-)
[12:50] <BluesKaj> experimentation eveb
[12:51] <BluesKaj> think I need more coffee
[15:32] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: hows that coffee :) :)
[18:35] <Guest85719> does anyone know if it's possible to install kubuntu over windows 10 via usb install?
[18:35] <Guest85719> i heard things now have to be disabled in the bios or something like that
[18:39] <Guest85719> hello?
[18:41] <diogenes_> Guest85719, once again what you wanna do?
[18:43] <Guest85719> does it require additional steps to replace win10 with kubuntu than it did for win7?
[18:44] <diogenes_> Guest85719, so you have a machine with window 10 only>
[18:44] <Guest85719> from what I googled according to an askubuntu answer it's the same process is that true?
[18:44] <Guest85719> yes
[18:45] <diogenes_> first care to backup your data that are currently on windows 10
[18:45] <diogenes_> then just boot the kubuntu usb, there will be the option to erase everything and install kubuntu
[18:45] <diogenes_> you choose thata nd don't bother
[18:46] <diogenes_> or you choose manually partitioning which is my favorite option
[18:46] <Guest85719> ok i just wanted to make sure that it didn't change because i heard once that you have to disable things like safe-boot
[18:47] <diogenes_> Guest85719, is the usb drive fails to boot then you disable secure boot
[18:47] <Guest85719> is that done in the bios?
[18:48] <diogenes_> yes
[18:48] <Guest85719> ok thanks i never had to do that because the only windows OS i have experience with replacing with Linux is win7
[18:49] <Guest85719> is disabling secure boot it or is there more to disable?
[18:50] <diogenes_> only that
[18:50] <Guest85719> ok good thanks for confirming that
[18:51] <Guest85719> i was on linux mint forum back when the secure boot issue was being discovered so i was worried
[18:52] <Guest85719> in turth im planning on getting a new dell laptop but i want to replace the OS with linux but the only laptops they have that don't hav win10 preinstalled are chromebooks
[18:53] <Guest85719> and i want something more powerful than a chromebook
[18:54] <Guest85719> so needless to say thanks again
[18:54] <Guest85719> it's a shame manufacturers don't seel with just a bios upon request
[18:55] <Guest85719> sell""
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