[00:00] <bekks> _44trent3: and?
[00:00] <_44trent3> i don't know, but why would it not need a bootable flag?
[00:00] <bekks> _44trent3: because it isnt needed nowadays.
[00:00] <_44trent3> but windows 7 came out in 2009
[00:01] <bekks> _44trent3: windows is out of interest here.
[00:01] <_44trent3> i know, but I just want to put a bootable flag on it just in case my bios DOESNT recognize it
[00:01] <bekks> _44trent3: If thats the case, a bootable flag will not help you, at all.
[00:01] <_44trent3> whatever
[00:01] <bekks> _44trent3: you need a bios being able to boot USB, nothing less, nothing more.
[00:02] <bekks> *sigh*
[00:03] <tables> what cflags are ubuntu binaries compiled with?
[00:03] <munch_28> Hey, can anyone tell me why I can't install Epson printer drivers via CLI for Ubuntu? Printers software just crashes
[00:03] <munch_28> Has that happened often?
[00:04] <bekks> tables: Whats the issue behind you question?
[00:04] <tables> i just want to know because i'm wondering what linux i should build on, i'm looking for speed
[00:04] <tables> i want to know how it compares to gentoo
[00:04] <bekks> tables: If you are looking for speed, you should be looking for faster hardware.
[00:05] <munch_28> Anyone? Printer driver problem? Trying to install from the GUI from System Settings
[00:06] <bekks> tables: cflags, in general, will not give you any performance gains, but rizoring them will add heavy compiling times.
[00:06] <leonarth> thanks a lot de-facto and bekks, have a great evening!
[00:06] <bekks> tables: And ricoring them will add stability issues.
[00:06] <leonarth> ciao
[00:06] <rubiksmomo> I give up. Maybe some day I can find a solution
[00:07] <de-facto> leonarth thanks you too, good luck with your shiny new install :)
[00:08] <munch_28> Has anyone heard of issues trying to install epson-inkjet-printer-escpr driver from the GUI?
[00:08] <zykotick9> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16089938/ <- #debian's "greenhouse" factoid
[00:09] <bekks> zykotick9: ROFL :D
[00:10] <munch_28> Has anyone heard of issues trying to install epson-escpr driver from the GUI?
[00:13] <munch_28> Has anyone heard of issues trying to install epson-escpr driver from the GUI?
[00:20] <docktard> if I download a .deb package ad install it with dpkg -i nameofpakcage etc how does it know where the package is saved?
[00:21] <docktard> meaning DL package with browser and saved in downloads folder....then use dpkg -i command in terminal
[00:26] <curlyears> so, 14.04.4doesn't have a python-gtk3.0 module.  NOw what the *&^&^*& do I do?
[00:27] <Bashing-om> docktard: I would imagine there to be a <package_name>.postinst control file for the package manager .
[00:27] <docktard> so do i need to navigate to where he file is in terminal first? or can I download it into the downloads folder...then open terminal and use the dpgk -i command?
[00:28] <zykotick9> docktard: <just a comment> installing random DEBs might not be a great idea...  ymmv
[00:28] <docktard> sure..this is peazip....its well known and safe
[00:28] <docktard> just isn't in any repository
[00:28] <inocuous> peazip is great
[00:29] <docktard> i havent used it yet but need a 7z app and it was recommended a lot
[00:29] <patdk-lap> how can you disable these gnome scrollbars? every gnome supported method, doesn't work
[00:31] <Bashing-om> docktard: I find it easier to work in the directory I have the file in .. I generally use the system /var/cache/apt/archives directory myself . However, if you rell dpkg where the file is located . it Will do it's thing .
[00:31] <docktard> thanks Bashing-om
[00:32] <truth_> hello
[00:32] <truth_> I upgraded to ubuntu 16.04
[00:33] <truth_> and now when I close the lid computer won't suspend
[00:33] <truth_> and when I open it it shows black screen
[00:34] <curlyears> truth_:  carefuul.  new versions of some software won't install under 14.04.4
[00:35] <curlyears> truth-:  how do you know it hasn't suspended, if the screen i s black when yu reopen the cover?
[00:35] <patdk-lap> works fine for me
[00:36] <patdk-lap> except my screen res is reset to max
[00:36] <curlyears> truth-:   16.04 is not a stable, released version
[00:36] <truth_> because I hear the fans
[00:37] <truth_> still working
[00:37] <truth_> and the light won't turn off on the index
[00:37] <LaserAllan> hey guys, ayone using linux on an ASUS ROG laptop here?, i am looking at buying one but a very important thing for me is that it is going to be Linux compatible
[00:37] <patdk-lap> heh? 16.04 is a released stable version
[00:37] <patdk-lap> well, stable is debatable, but
[00:38] <curlyears> the fans should run when the internal temperture calls for them, and may no cease runniing just because the machine suspends...it can take aa while for things to cool down
[00:38] <truth_> it's closed for hours and it still won't suspend
[00:39] <est31> why is the OOM killer turned off?
[00:39] <est31> it doesnt do its job for me
[00:39] <est31> and i really need it as I have no swap
[00:39] <est31> system just becomes unresponsive and I have to sysrq
[00:40] <docktard> inocuous still here?
[00:40] <est31> and thanks to this super great security "fix" I can't even kill the offender
[00:40] <curlyears> truth-:   so it is.  hmmmm
[00:41] <est31> sysrq is almost disabled
[00:41] <est31> yes i can enable it but thats not it
[00:41] <est31> i want the OOM killer to actually work
[00:41] <curlyears> OOM = out of memory?
[00:42] <est31> yes
[00:42] <bipul_> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/gedit/".
[00:43] <MannyLNJ> Help please. I plugged in a flash drive but the system is not seeing it
[00:43] <docktard> I installed peazip by downloading the deb and installing it with Uubutnu Software Center...it's in the menu now but not in usr/share/applications yet the deb is in usr/share/applications
[00:43] <docktard> how can I fix this?
[00:47] <Guest92838> hi
[00:48] <dannymichel> I've noticed that minimizing Wine applications makes them disappear. They don't stay in the 'dock(for lack of a better known word)' https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/ubuntu-11-04-fix-show-all-iconsindicators-in-unity-panels-notification-area/ that doesnt work anymore
[00:52] <squinty> docktard,  download the deb to Downloads directory/folder.  Install gebi (in repos).  Use your file manager to migrate to ~/Downloads and right click on the deb file name _>  select open with gdebi.   gdebi will check to see that all dependancies are satisfied and if the are the go ahead and install it.
[00:53] <squinty> docktard,  sudo apt install gdebi    in a terminal
[00:53] <docktard> thanks
[00:53] <docktard> do you know why I have the app installed and working but cannot find it in /usr/share/applicaitons?
[00:53] <docktard> the deb is in there for some reason...but not the app icon itself
[00:53] <docktard> I had already installed it with software center
[00:55] <squinty> docktard,   sudo updatedb      in terminal and after it's finished then   locate <program file name)    that will display all instances of the program you are searching for
[00:55] <docktard> thanks
[00:55] <squinty> docktard,  you can also do   which <program name>    which will display the location of the file in question
[00:56] <docktard> i dont know how you guys learn all of this...seems every action requires some knowledge I don't have
[00:57] <docktard> updatedb didn't change the usr/share/applications folder...still has the deb in it but not the app...looking
[00:57] <squinty> docktard,  it takes time.....I am a relative newby compared with other rascals who visit here
[00:57] <squinty> docktard,  that directory shouldn't have any deb package in it.... you probably told the download to stick it there
[00:58] <docktard> I downloaded it to the downlaods folder
[00:58] <FjordPrefect> I updated to Ubuntu 16.04 and can't seem to mount any partition or hard disk. Pastebin here : https://paste.ubuntu.com/16090232/
[00:58] <docktard> I then double clicked it and the software center opened and I installed it there
[00:58] <squinty> docktard,   which  peazip??
[00:58] <docktard> but its not showing in the "installed" list in software center
[00:59] <docktard> its in the XCFE menu and works though...let me check version...its gtk2 but not sure version
[00:59] <_44trent3> how do i enable the universe repository?
[00:59] <docktard> 6.0.0
[01:00] <squinty> docktard,  there seems to be some bugs going around in software center (or whatever the flavour for the current release).... people trying to install chrome via it were having problems this last week
[01:00] <docktard> the locate command finds is in usr/share not usr/share/applications
[01:00] <docktard> oops usr/local/share
[01:00] <docktard> usr/local/share/PeaZip
[01:00] <squinty> _44trent3,  software and updates
[01:01] <squinty> docktard,  that is the directory it actually runs from.
[01:01] <docktard> why is it different than the other apps?
[01:02] <docktard> Everything else shows icons for the apps in usr/share/applications
[01:02] <squinty> docktard, no idea to be honest.
[01:02] <tripelb> 14.04 when I drop to root at login and type "ls /home" I get nothing. What is going on?
[01:02] <docktard> this is the kind of stuff that really confuses me
[01:02] <squinty> docktard,  me too!  :P
[01:02] <_44trent3> strange, i'm trying to get winusb from a repository and i just realized the reason it's not finding it is because...there isn't anything for xenial
[01:03] <docktard> usr/local/share/applications has the PeaZip icon in it...every other app on the machine is in usr/share/applicaitons
[01:03] <docktard> can I move it there or will that screw everything up?
[01:03] <_44trent3> well, i guess i can't get it then
[01:03] <docktard> i have an applicaitons folder in the dock that makes it easy to see them all at once...but since its off on its own its not in there
[01:04] <squinty> _44trent3,  means the author hasn't updated the application to 16.04 yet.  ask him/her/it or whatever  :-)
[01:04] <_44trent3> im guessing things will break if I try to change it to ubuntu wily main?
[01:04] <docktard> my dock applications folder opens usr/share/applications
[01:05] <squinty> docktard,  tried drag/drop to the dock?
[01:05] <docktard> i dont want the app icon in the dock...I probably don't explain well
[01:05] <squinty> _44trent3,  not recommended without verification from the software's author
[01:06] <docktard> i have a folder in docky called "applications"...it opens usr/share/applications and shows all the app icons
[01:06] <_44trent3> so i probably should send him an email or something
[01:06] <docktard> except PeaZip since its off in usr/local/share/applications
[01:06] <docktard> trying to sort why it installed there...and how to move it to where everything else is without borking things
[01:07] <squinty> docktard, _44trent3  wife says "supper is ready" so gotta go....others here should be able to help you though,   good luck :-)
[01:07] <docktard> thanks
[01:08] <user84> Hi guys 1 simple question I hope you can help me with. In Kubuntu 16.04 keys to zoom are ctrl + but nouthing happens. do I have to turn on the zoom function from some place? thanks
[01:09] <est31> thats a feature
[01:09] <est31> of new kde plasma
[01:09] <raspberrypifan> kde plasma
[01:09] <raspberrypifan> is blah
[01:09] <est31> but thanks for warning, i will perhaps consider another distro instead of switching
[01:10] <est31> raspberrypifan, its better than unity, in kde plasma you can at least open multiple windows
[01:10] <est31> and you have a paste buffer
[01:10] <est31> all too complicated for unity
[01:10] <raspberrypifan> u cant in unity? i like unity
[01:10] <est31> what it has is amazon search
[01:10] <Beck1313> um hi
[01:10] <tripelb> Trying to help a guy our LUG gave a computer. We don't know the usernames and they don't show up with LA /home -- the same on my 14.04. I don't understand why.
[01:10] <_44trent3> does anyone know of any winusb alternatives? (i need it to work with a windows disk image...properly!)
[01:10] <est31> tripelb, do cat /etc/passwd
[01:10] <est31> the users are listed there
[01:11] <est31> tripelb, it most likely sounds as if /home was mounted on login or something
[01:11] <est31> perhaps encrypted with login password
[01:13] <_44trent3> uh, well i found a deb file for it...however, now its telling me "Error: dependency is not satisfiable: libwxbase2.8-0 (>=<IP_ADDRESS>)"
[01:14] <user84> ?
[01:15] <MannyLNJ> My laptop's drive is /dev/sda it has /sda1 /sda2 and /sda5 only /sda1 seems to be mounted. How can I check that the other two partitions are indeed mounted and if not mount them
[01:15] <patdk-lap> I should hope you do not mount your swap
[01:16] <MannyLNJ> patdk-lap, I know /sda5 is my swap but I don't know if /sda2 is mounted
[01:17] <_44trent3> uh, does anyone know how to fix that?
[01:17] <cr4x> hello :)
[01:18] <cr4x> when i put my screen brightness on 0% and restart my notebook, my screen get black :(
[01:18] <cr4x> someone with this bug?
[01:18] <cr4x> using xenial xerus/ xfce
[01:19] <_44trent3> how do i get libwxbase2.8-0 on 16.04?
[01:19] <thehebs> 14.04 or 16.04... go!
[01:19] <thehebs> i have amd graphics
[01:19] <bleomycin> does anyone know why tab completion doesnt work for systemctl on 16.04?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: 'mount' to se what is mounted .. ' sudo parted -l ' to see all partitions... ' sudo blkid ' to identify the UUIDs  .. 'cat /etc/fstab' to see what the system mounts .
[01:20] <thehebs> and i do a good bit of 3d modeling etc...
[01:21] <_44trent3> what would happen if i manually installed wx2.8 packages? would stuff break?
[01:21] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, mount doesn't show /dev/sdb parted -l shows the table as msdos with no file system for 2 or 5
[01:22] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Show in a pastebin site .. so we get on the same page .
[01:23] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/B82zB0F0
[01:23] <_44trent3> this says it's 16.04 compatible, so i'm going to add it
[01:23] <_44trent3> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libwxgtk2.8-0/<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg2-2ubuntu2
[01:25] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: 'sda2' is an extended partiton ,,, a "container" to hold additional "logical" partitions .. and as a container .. there is no file system imposed on it .
[01:26] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, So I need to make a partiton in it then format that partion?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: To do what ??/ I am lost as to what you require .
[01:28] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I am almost out of space on the hard drive. I noticed /dev/sda1 is 500 megs I thought my hard drive was lager than that but not sure
[01:28] <_44trent3> don't know how stupid what i just did was, but oh well
[01:29] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Keep in mind that the container sda2 is onlu so big ... and in this container is 'sda5' that already fills that container up, there is no further rimm in that container .
[01:29] <tripelb> What is Kerberos?
[01:30] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, ok then my drive must be 500mb and I have to get an external drive then. I think I got this now
[01:31] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: 500 GB is a large drive for the operating system .. better question is where all the space is consumed ? .. what returns ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[01:32] <WizardGed> Is the Ubuntu phone website still broken? I've been trying non-stop for the second day now :(
[01:32] <_44trent3> am i being completely ignored?
[01:32] <_44trent3> i'm trying to get libwxbase2.8-0 on 16.04!
[01:32] <pitiye> i have two grub boot folders on two partitions , how do i remove the unnecessary grub boot folder ?
[01:32] <_44trent3> HOW DO I GET IT
[01:33] <docktard> i am creating encrypted 7z folders with p7zip through Thunar but when I open them it doesn't ask for password...am i missing something obvious?
[01:34] <_44trent3> never mind, but now i'm having yet another problem
[01:34] <WizardGed> _44trent3, that's weird it seems to be missing from 16.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libwxbase2.8-0
[01:34] <_44trent3> what would happen if i tried the one that's availble on wily werewolf or something?
[01:34] <WizardGed> see top left it's in all the other releases including wily
[01:35] <_44trent3> yeah, i downloaded the deb
[01:35] <_44trent3> would it be stupid of me to say, install it?
[01:35] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I know I have 2 virtual systems on it but I will do the paste bin you
[01:35] <_44trent3> nono that won't work
[01:36] <_44trent3> it NEEDS to be just libwxbase2.8-0
[01:36] <_44trent3> 2.8-0
[01:36] <thehebs> so can someone help me choose between 14.04 and 16.04, if i have amd graphics and do a lot of 3d modeling and gaming
[01:36] <_44trent3> nothing more, nothing less
[01:36] <WizardGed> _44trent3, not a good idea but it may work I would recommend building it yourself by downloading the dsc and building it yourself but you may not be willing to go that far
[01:36] <_44trent3> even if i did that, it isn't the one i need
[01:36] <_44trent3> it can't be higher, and it can't be lower than libwxbase2.8-0
[01:37] <etzer> my wireless cannot connected ubuntu mate 16.04
[01:38] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, df -h says Illegal operation
[01:38] <WizardGed> _44trent3, you can try it but if it doesn't work please purge it however you may wish to create a bug report on launchpad
[01:38] <etzer> the wireless is display and when I selected my  wireless in the list and it is not working.
[01:38] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/qTTM9Zxh for df -i
[01:39] <_44trent3> WizardGed: is there anything that can make windows usb installers, other than winusb which i'm trying to use
[01:39] <_44trent3> unetbootin obviously can't, i can't run things under WINE, it won't detect my USB
[01:39] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: 'df -h' is valid .. try again ?
[01:40] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/6cVd3XNg
[01:41] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: ^, and there is no ibode problem per that output .
[01:43] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Well now we know that the space problem is in '/' .. so what is taking all that space ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' ?
[01:43] <tripelb> I am doing phone support for a guy who can't login. Our LUG gave him the computer. It keeps asking for the current Kerberos password. How do I get around that?
[01:46] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Aside: How are we to know this is not a stolen box ?
[01:47] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, it's still running
[01:48] <tripelb> http://linux.ucla.edu gave him the computer and I was there. I have emailed another in the group who will know but I wanted to help the guy. Bashing-om  I have been around here nickserv registered for several years. That is all I can say.
[01:49] <raspberrypifan> LUG?
[01:49] <MannyLNJ> raspberrypifan, Linux User Group
[01:49] <raspberrypifan> u give free stuff
[01:49] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Accepted ,. Change the password : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[01:50] <tripelb> Bashing-om: I see (looked up Kerberos) it used to be on the network and nobody reinstalled Ubuntu before giving it to him.
[01:50] <docktard> can anyone help me with p7zip? I am comparing options and I cannot get it to encrypt
[01:51] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, should I be conceerned that it is saying no such file or directory while that command is running?
[01:51] <docktard> when I choose archive it allows me to enter a password to encrypt but it doens't do it...just compresses it
[01:51] <reisio> docktard: any particular archive format?
[01:52] <docktard> I just made a test folder and tried to encrypt with 7z....i used the menu in Thunar and chose "create archive"
[01:52] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: /proc you can ignore .. all else is meaningfull .
[01:52] <tripelb> Bashing-om: I started with that page. When you do that the system says enter new UNIX password:  -- his says enter current Kerberos password: --- repeating for clarity
[01:52] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, ok. Command is still running
[01:52] <docktard> it has an "other options" drop down with a password box..I enter one and click "create"...its makes the 7z archive but doesn't encrypt it
[01:53] <reisio> docktard: what makes you think it isn't encrypted?
[01:53] <docktard> it doesn't require a password to unarchive...I tried it on an OSX laptop as well and it opened without password...multiple tries
[01:54] <reisio> docktard: so you can read file /contents/?
[01:54] <docktard> yes
[01:54] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Maybe I am in left field .. no experience with Kerberos . does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword same same or help ?
[01:54] <docktard> i did the same operation on OSX and it encrypted normally...and required password to open in OSX and on the Xubuntu laptop
[01:55] <docktard> but anything I make on the xubuntu laptop doesnt seem to actually encrypt
[01:55] <lorddaedra> hello) is it somehow possible to install https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rkt ?
[01:55] <reisio> docktard: sounds like it's broke, file a bug
[01:55] <lorddaedra> to Xenial
[01:55] <daftmonk> I'm trying to get haproxy running locally for testing but I can't tell if it's running
[01:55] <daftmonk> and I don't see any logs in /var/log
[01:55] <docktard> more likely I am screwing somehting up ;)
[01:55] <reisio> docktard: you can use 7z a -mhe=on -p foo.7z bar in the interim
[01:55] <daftmonk> and also, unsurprisingly http://localhost is basically not responding at all
[01:55] <tripelb> I will try. Thanks .. When I find out I will communicate
[01:55] <lorddaedra> Rkt is Docker.io replacement ans systemd friend =)
[01:55] <docktard> reisio I dont know the command line yet...I am very new
[01:56] <reisio> docktard: that's all there is to it
[01:56] <docktard> its hard for me to visualize where things are without a gui
[01:56] <MannyLNJ> tripelb, can he boot into single user mode?
[01:56] <reisio> docktard: mmm, could maybe use mc as a crutch :D
[01:56] <docktard> i installed peazip as well
[01:56] <MannyLNJ> tripelb, if he can drop into root this may help http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man1/kpasswd.1.html
[01:57] <reisio> docktard: does dpkg -l | grep -i 7z show p7zip-full?
[01:57] <docktard> i got it to work once...but cant seem to replicate it and everything is unencrypted jus as with the p7zip/thunar combo...so it has to be me
[01:57] <reisio> well it's a bug whether you can get it to work or not
[01:57] <reisio> something saying it will be encrypted that isn't is a bug, a nasty one
[01:57] <reisio> not everyone would have checked as you have
[01:57] <docktard> yes
[01:58] <reisio> yes to -full?
[01:58] <docktard> yes
[01:58] <docktard> well since its a problem in p7zip AND peazip surely its me
[01:58] <reisio> no it's probably a problem with the bit that interfaces with the file manager
[01:58] <docktard> two apps wouldn't be bad  likely right?
[01:58] <docktard> ok
[01:58] <reisio> it probably works fine via commandline
[01:59] <tripelb> MannyLNJ: we have been doing this from root. I will check that page. Bashing-om I found the adduser command. That may be a way for the moment. It really needs a reinstall of Ubuntu. He is a new and deserves vanilla.
[01:59] <reisio> dpkg -l | egrep -i 'thunar|archiv'
[01:59] <reisio> something in there, no doubt
[01:59] <reisio> unless it's file-roller, which is possible, I s'pose
[02:00] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, command still running....
[02:00] <Bashing-om> tripelb: +1 on a fresh install .
[02:00] <docktard> that command gave me an error "--install needs at least one package file archive argument
[02:01] <docktard> oops i see my error sorry...standby
[02:01] <docktard> lots of output...what am I looking for?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: That has been too long now , I will runit on my file system and when completed .. we look at what you did not do .
[02:03] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Done . ok, did you " cd / " ?
[02:04] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, ok. I know I am running a few tasks now.I am updating a windows system in virtual box and buuilding a 14.04.4 usb drive so I can redo my other system from scratch since I now have a screen for it
[02:04] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, yes I did cd /
[02:04] <docktard> well I figured something out...below the passwor box it has two checkboxes...one is "encrypt the file list too" so I thought it was optional...the other is about splitting volumes...if I check "encrypt the file list too" it encrypts and requires password to unarchive...weird
[02:05] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: K then verify " sudo du -sx * | sort -n " .  Just takes a bit of time ... Linux is like learning a new language .. it is not learned in a day .
[02:06] <docktard> well under the hood I know...but on the surface it is more resistant to dummies
[02:06] <docktard> reisio still here?
[02:07] <dannymichel> I've noticed that minimizing Wine applications makes them disappear. They don't stay in the 'dock(for lack of a better known word)'  any ideas?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> docktard: Just different . takes time to know . We have all been there !
[02:07] <reisio> docktard: 'fraid so
[02:07] <gorgonzola> hello all! I got a bit of an emergency: I'm in the middle of upgrading to Xenial, but for some reason plasma (i'm in kde) became completely unresponsive: I can see the desktop and move the mouse cursor, but neither the keyboard nor mouse clicks have any effect, and the upgrade s stuck waiting for an answer to a conf question. What should i do?
[02:07] <reisio> docktard: sounds like a simple bug
[02:07] <docktard> reisio did you see my posts? The output you asked for was long...what was I looking for? I also got it to encrypt but only if I check the file lis box
[02:08] <reisio> docktard: someone doesn't understand that 7z can encrypt only contents and also contents and headers (file lists)
[02:08] <docktard> ive only ever used 7z  before this with keka on osx and its drag and drop....
[02:08] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Then I guess we wait some more .. but sure has been long now .
[02:08] <reisio> docktard: what's the app, xarchiver? file-roller?
[02:08] <docktard> put in password and drag and drop...
[02:09] <docktard> app for what and where? The linux app I am using?
[02:09] <docktard> I have p7zip installed on xubuntu...and was archiving via Thunar
[02:09] <docktard> in the file menu
[02:09] <docktard> on OSX I use Keka
[02:10] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, virtual box is using most of the cpu according to top
[02:11] <reisio> docktard: open it up so you're creating an archive, then hit CTRL+ALT+t and run 'ps aux | egrep -i 'file|roller|archiv' and tell me the output
[02:11] <WizardGed> gorgonzola, have you tried switching tty's
[02:11] <reisio> gorgonzola: have you tried being eaten by me?
[02:11] <reisio> nom
[02:12] <docktard> so open the menu so the archive box is up first?
[02:12] <reisio> yup
[02:12] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I am shutting down virtual box
[02:12] <reisio> I want to know the process name, so we can track it down
[02:13] <docktard> do I populate the boxes in the archive window as normal? or just open it and leave it as default?
[02:13] <reisio> just open is enough
[02:13] <docktard> ok
[02:14] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, can I increase the priority of DU the PID is 6584
[02:15] <docktard> it only gave me a caret...I might have entered sth wrong
[02:15] <reisio> docktard: yeah, you missed a '
[02:15] <reisio> docktard: hit CTRL+c, try again
[02:15] <reisio> or I missed a '
[02:15] <reisio> ps aux | egrep -i 'file|roller|archiv'
[02:15] <docktard> i had an extra ' before the ps
[02:16] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Possibly, but I do not know how in a running process .
[02:16] <docktard> ok lots of output...what am I looking for?
[02:16] <reisio> docktard: dunno
[02:16] <reisio> docktard: try this instead: ps aux | egrep -i 'file|roller|archiv' | pastebinit
[02:16] <docktard> crap I can't paste it as I am on another laptop
[02:16] <docktard> ok
[02:17] <reisio> docktard: okay, well
[02:17] <reisio> docktard: I'm guess it's 'xarchiver' or 'file-roller'
[02:17] <reisio> do you see either of those strings?
[02:17] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, it finished
[02:17] <docktard> here I can give you the pastebin link...I thought you wanted in in this room
[02:17] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: show it ?
[02:17] <docktard> paste.ubuntu.com/16090815
[02:18] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/VnJ0fiM9
[02:18] <reisio> docktard: okay, so it's file-roller
[02:18] <docktard> i dont even know what that means :P
[02:19] <reisio> docktard: it's just the name of the application
[02:19] <reisio> docktard: this is what you see? http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ark_file_roller_fr_new_archive.jpg?6b9ecc
[02:19] <docktard> in essence yeah...im on xubuntu with thunar but it has the same fields
[02:20] <reisio> docktard: so you're expecting the password alone to be an implication of encryption?
[02:21] <docktard> well my only other experience with 7z was the OSX app Keka and it works like that
[02:21] <docktard> in that same dialogue it has password boxes...and if you enter a password it encrypts...if you don't it just compresses as normal
[02:22] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: /boot is large .. but /home (downloads ) is where the problem is .
[02:22] <docktard> so I was assuming the same...but the password doens't seem to do anything on the linux side for me unless I choose "
[02:22] <docktard> file list encryption too
[02:23] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, Ok I have to see what is in there then
[02:23] <reisio> docktard: yeah I think it's just a poorly made application: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304773&p=8194161#post8194161
[02:24] <docktard> its behaving really oddly to me...if I select "encrypt file list" it will encrypt...or at least require a password to open with the archive manager....but if I choose "extract" from the right click menu it bypasses that and opens it as if it weren't protected
[02:24] <docktard> once it does that it won't ask for a password even in the archive manager
[02:24] <docktard> do you know of a better 7z gui app that encrypts? I am getting the same trouble with PeaZip....
[02:24] <docktard> and I used 7z a lot on OSX
[02:24] <reisio> docktard: you might try xarchiver
[02:25] <reisio> docktard: it's actually more Xfce appropriate
[02:25] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Trim our old cruft .. maybe better solution than a new hard drive . ' cd /home ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' again .
[02:25] <docktard> ok having a look
[02:25] <docktard> i still feel like I might be messing up...as two apps are behaving the same....why will they allow me to encrypt but once I "extract" the 7z file is no longer encrypted? its weird
[02:26] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: <sidenote> ncdu is handy for finding what's using space
[02:26] <gorgonzola> WizardGed you mean ctrl+altf(1-9)? Yes, I tried and it works, but I still don;t know how to communicate with the open dialog in the running kdm session...
[02:26] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, ok I have something to start with thanks
[02:26] <docktard> i just want to easily make 7z archives and encrypt them...and move them from linux to osx at will
[02:27] <reisio> docktard: I think it's just a poorly made application
[02:27] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Will have to invesigate .. new one on me :)
[02:27] <WizardGed> gorgonzola, try switching back now
[02:27] <llldino> Hey guys, i'm trying to get ubuntu running on an old server, but grub won't load. I've tried grub-install to /dev/sdX, update initramfs, vmlinuz and initrd are both present in /boot. I have the 1MB unformatted partition set with bios_grub flag. I'm lost, can anyone help me out?
[02:27] <WizardGed>  ctrl+altf7
[02:29] <docktard> its just weird that two apps do the same thing...but if I take an encrypted 7z file from Keka and try to open it in linux it always asks for password
[02:29] <docktard> i can't get around it with the "extract here" trick like I can with peazip and p7zip
[02:29] <docktard> trying xarchiver
[02:29] <WizardGed> gorgonzola, the point being to attempt to lose focus and then to reconnect to gain focus
[02:31] <docktard> reisio i don't see an encryption/password option in xarchiver...
[02:32] <reisio> docktard: needs to be a format that supports it
[02:32] <docktard> right...i choose archive and 7z and there is no further option
[02:33] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: ncdu - Wow "  and provides a fast way to see what directories are using your
[02:33] <Bashing-om>        disk space." and how !
[02:33] <docktard> sorry....i feel like an idiot...this shouldnt be so complicated
[02:33] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: :)
[02:35] <reisio> docktard: it shouldn't :)
[02:36] <docktard> i just want to make encrypted 7z files/folders but all 3 apps are not working right...it has to be me but I have no clue what I am doing wrong
[02:36] <docktard> keka is a breeze...wish it worked with linux
[02:37] <reisio> you said...
[02:37] <reisio> docktard: there's no password field? Screenshot?
[02:37] <docktard> no field....on other laptop
[02:37] <MoPac> Since my upgrade to 16.04, touchscreen multitouch taps and gestures have stopped being recognized. What package would I report that against?
[02:38] <docktard> there is a drop down with "enter password" under the action menu but tis greyed out until you crete the archive
[02:38] <reisio> docktard: until you choose 7z?
[02:39] <docktard> ok lets back up and make sure I am not doing something really stupid...which is no impossible
[02:39] <docktard> can you walk m through it step by step? I just opened xarchive and haven't done anything yet...lets go from there
[02:40] <reisio> hang on, I think I have a box with xarchiver
[02:42] <gorgonzola> WizardGed: Oh,  I see what you mean... Unfortunately, it doens't work, session on tty 7 is still unresponsive to user input
[02:43] <_44trent3> so i'm having an issue. whenever I start steam i get this error
[02:43] <_44trent3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16090976/
[02:43] <reisio> docktard: okay so 'Create Archive'
[02:44] <reisio> from the right click menu
[02:44] <docktard> ok
[02:44] <docktard> this is the built in file archiver though right?
[02:44] <docktard> not xarchiver
[02:45] <docktard> this is the box from earlier that won't encrypt unless I check "encrypt the file list too" and once you "extract here" from the right menu it won't ever ask for password again
[02:46] <docktard> xarchiver has a different menu
[02:49] <gorgonzola_>  /nick gorgonzola
[02:49] <reisio> I don't have file-roller, someone else will
[02:49] <docktard> i made an encrypted 7z file with p7zip and when I try to open it with xarchiver it sticks at "opening arhive, please wait"
[02:50] <docktard> i can't get any of these apps to work
[02:50] <_44trent3> hey, uh does anyone know how to fix my problem?
[02:53] <carlos_> hi
[02:57] <Dividebyzero> hello, what version # is wily werewolf?
[02:57] <nolsen> Are there any settings to use a 6rd border relay?
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> !15/10 | Dividebyzero
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !15.10
[02:58] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, thank you, was 16.04/xerus JUST released?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: correct
[02:58] <Dividebyzero> like today?
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: no, april 21st
[03:00] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, if you apt-get dist-upgrade from wily to xerus, will you get all the things they talked about during pre-release?  such as zfs as an option, snaps, etc?
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: if you upgrade to a new release, you will get the specific features yes
[03:01] <Dividebyzero> from what i heard, 16.04 basically makes ubuntu a 'rolling release' now, is this correct?
[03:02] <nolsen> Are there any settings to use a 6rd border relay?
[03:03] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, i guess what i dont understand is, if i dist-upgrade is it going to remove the ubuntu software center and replace it with GNOME Software automatically?
[03:04] <enigmabomb> Hello. I’m trying to figure out how to install packages from a PPA. I want to install GEOS From this page. I added the PPA to my repo list but when I apt-get install I get nada. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: like i said, new release upgrade will get you the new packages/features
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> enigmabomb: we dont recommend installing ppa's
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | enigmabomb
[03:05] <enigmabomb> I know that, but in this case I can’t get the source to compile correctly so I am taking a calculated risk
[03:05] <rahuldev> hi
[03:05] <enigmabomb> I understand the dangers of PPA's
[03:06] <rahuldev> To install JDK is I need to uninstall JDK?
[03:06] <pitiye> i see this line > Found Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (16.04) on /dev/sda11, but this record does not exist on /boot/grub/grub.cfg. is it an issue ?
[03:06] <trism> enigmabomb: which ubuntu version are you on?
[03:06] <enigmabomb> trism: 14.04
[03:06] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, ok, i'll try it out thanks.  have you heard of any major issues with people upgrading from wily to xerus thus far?
[03:07] <enigmabomb> If there was a GEOS/GDal package for Trusty official I’d be all over it
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: it really differes from machine to machine, make a backup ok :p
[03:07] <Dividebyzero> has anyone here heard of any issue from people upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04?
[03:07] <trism> enigmabomb: how did you add the repo?
[03:07] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, oh that happens hourly regardless ;)
[03:07] <enigmabomb> trism:  I did
[03:07] <trism> enigmabomb: *how* did you add the repo
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: i would go for a clean install
[03:08] <enigmabomb> trism: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ppa
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: but we had many users with succesfull upgrades from wily
[03:08] <Dividebyzero> Dividebyzero, yeah? i'm interested why
[03:08] <trism> enigmabomb: you ran apt-get update after?
[03:08] <enigmabomb> I did
[03:08] <enigmabomb> I think Im fuzzy on what to type after apt-get install …. Is it the package name? The folder name?
[03:08] <nolsen> Are there any settings to use a 6rd border relay? There are no instructions.
[03:08] <trism> enigmabomb: which package are you trying to install?
[03:09] <enigmabomb> GEOS and Gdal
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: clean install gives you a fresh system
[03:09] <trism> enigmabomb: package name
[03:09] <enigmabomb> So it’d be geos - 3.3.8-2~precise1 trism/
[03:09] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, ok, was just wondering if you had a reason above and beyond the obvious advantages to a clean install for this release. thanks for the advice
[03:09] <trism> enigmabomb: no I don't see a geos binary package
[03:10] <enigmabomb> On this page? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[03:10] <enigmabomb> “geos (3.3.8-2~precise1) precise”
[03:11] <trism> enigmabomb: there's some geos lib packages in the geos source package, there's a gdal-bin package in the gdal source, might have something you want
[03:11] <trism> enigmabomb: that is the source package, expand it, it shows the package names
[03:11] <enigmabomb> Ah
[03:11] <trism> enigmabomb: all of which I see in trusty btw (without the ppa)
[03:11] <enigmabomb> You see GDal in trusty?
[03:11] <enigmabomb> If so thats the best news all day.
[03:11] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, can you recommend the easiest way to do a clean install and get everything copied over as easiest/most reliable way possible?  For example, getting all my installed programs back+my data+program settings/system preferences/etc....APTonCD+Backintime?  Obviously clonezilla wouldnt work....
[03:11] <trism> !info gdal-bin trusty | enigmabomb
[03:12] <enigmabomb> Thank you so much trism
[03:12] <LambdaComplex> Why is a clean install recommended? Just curious
[03:12] <trism> enigmabomb: np
[03:12] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, unforuntately i don't have /home on a separate partition either....
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> LambdaComplex: nothing can beat a fresh system without leftovers, ppa's, manual installed stuff,..
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> LambdaComplex: the clean install recommend is also a choice, not a must
[03:14] <LambdaComplex> lotuspsychje: I would certainly hope so :p
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: you can use aptoncd yes, but i would go for real fresh..as xenial again is supported the LTS way for years
[03:16] <_44trent3> so i just managed to get unetbootin to install to my ntfs formatted flash drive
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: took me 10 min to install xenial on a fast ssd
[03:17] <LambdaComplex> _44trent3: why not use dd? O.o
[03:17] <LambdaComplex> (or cat or pv, for that matter)
[03:17] <Dividebyzero> lotuspsychje, i know it just kills me to have to redo this machine, i have everything set up EXACTLY the way i like it.  totally pimped out, down to the keyboard shortcuts and the way it looks.  i'm sure you know what i mean... :-/ hello, i even just installed Plex on this baby..
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> Dividebyzero: ok, in your case you might consider the upgrade then..
[03:19] <nolsen> How do I setup Ubuntu to use my ISP's 6RD border relay?
[03:20] <MoPac> Since my upgrade to 16.04, touchscreen multitouch taps and gestures have stopped being recognized. What package would I report that against?
[03:22] <Dividebyzero> eek
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> MoPac: unity itself perhaps
[03:23] <MoPac> lotuspsychje: thanks
[03:23] <rahuldev> hi
[03:23] <Abe_> I got this message on irc... what does it mean?
[03:23] <Abe_> paper_kitten!~paperkitten@unaffiliated/paper_kitten has  just authenticated as you (Abe_)
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> !freenode | Abe_
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> Abe_: ask in #freenode plz
[03:24] <rahuldev> I put jdk in /usr/local/, Is Now I have to set path JAVA_HOME in "enviornment" file is I am right?
[03:24] <Abe_> lotuspsychje: okay okay
[03:24] <Abe_> I thought cuz you guys are smart with stuff like that
[03:25] <Abe_> join #freenode
[03:25] <Abe_> duuh
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> Abe_: would be smarter to add /join
[03:31] <ecojud> I have Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 LTS... I see that 16.04 has been released.  I am a casual ubuntu user; should I worry about upgrading to 16.04?  Seems that I will have to upgrade to 15.10 first.
[03:32] <uruk> hello i can't acces into router , i do ping in gateway and return all packs loss
[03:32] <uruk> can you help me?
[03:32] <ecojud> ping <IP_ADDRESS> first
[03:33] <ecojud> are you getting any responses?
[03:33] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | ecojud
[03:33] <uruk> yes
[03:33] <uruk> all transmited
[03:33] <ecojud> Bashing-om: thank you!
[03:33] <ecojud> uruk: good good
[03:34] <Bashing-om> ecojud: :)
[03:34] <uruk> but when i ping <IP_ADDRESS> all lossed
[03:35] <ecojud> uruk: is there another device between the one you are using to pin and the router?
[03:37] <uruk> ecojud : no , i think not
[03:38] <ecojud> uruk: can you access your router's Web GUI when you navigate to <IP_ADDRESS> in a web browser?
[03:38] <LambdaComplex> is that actually the router's ip?
[03:38] <ecojud> ^^^
[03:39] <uruk> ecojud : no is posible from web browser ,
[03:39] <LambdaComplex> >no
[03:39] <LambdaComplex> >is possible
[03:39] <LambdaComplex> that's rather conflicting
[03:39] <uruk> is not possible
[03:40] <ecojud> try this in a terminal and give us the output: route -n
[03:40] <rhorse> hi, what is the file I need to edit to add another WM to login screen?
[03:40] <ecojud> uruk: or better yet, check to see if the Gateway ip is the same ip you are trying to ping
[03:41] <uruk> ecojud -> http://pastebin.com/raw/qKSWKYpN
[03:42] <LambdaComplex> rhorse: chances are the display manager is looking at .desktop files
[03:42] <ecojud> uruk: one of those ip's is APIPA...
[03:42] <LambdaComplex> though i can't remember where it should look for them >.>
[03:42] <uruk> APIPA?
[03:42] <ecojud> try: traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:43] <ecojud> APIPA is an automatically assigned IP address when DHCP services fail and no static IP alternative is provided
[03:43] <LambdaComplex> rhorse: hm, perhaps /usr/share/xsessions
[03:43] <uruk> ecojud i need go interfaces?
[03:44]  * LambdaComplex links to the Arch Wiki and hopes it applies
[03:44] <LambdaComplex> rhorse: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/display_manager#Session_configuration
[03:44] <rhorse> LambdaComplex: thanks! What dir are .desktop files found in? Home?
[03:44] <ecojud> uruk: I'm not totally sure really...
[03:45] <LambdaComplex> rhorse: see if your /usr/share/xsessions has .desktop files corresponding to each entry in your DM. if it does, then there you go
[03:45] <rhorse> I'll have a look, LambdaComplex thanks!
[03:45] <uruk> ecojud and how to solved?
[03:45] <LambdaComplex> rhorse: no problem!
[03:45] <ecojud> uruk: I don't know.  We have not narrowed down the problem :-(
[03:45] <ecojud> uruk: are you pinging from the device you are using IRC on?
[03:46] <uruk> browser work well and irc but i can not go in <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:47] <ecojud> uruk: it's odd that you can access the internet without being able to ping your router... perhaps your router automatically drops ping requests
[03:47] <ecojud> can you try: tracerout <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:48] <ecojud> sorry: traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:49] <uruk> ecojud --> http://pastebin.com/raw/TJi3uZXX
[03:50] <ecojud> uruk: ok... that is expected since ping is not working... now try: traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:50] <ecojud> uruk: that is a google ip address
[03:50] <tekkidd> anyone hre
[03:50] <tekkidd> here
[03:51] <uruk> ecojud --> http://pastebin.com/raw/8D1W9Bik
[03:52] <ecojud> uruk: yeah... you are accessing your router and going beyond it, but your pings are being dropped
[03:53] <m|IRC> ?
[03:53] <m|IRC> hi
[03:53] <uruk> ping dropped?
[03:54] <ecojud> uruk: routers can be configured to ignore ping requests in order to keep network traffic down
[03:55] <ecojud> uruk: are you pinging your router for a reason?
[03:56] <uruk> i ping router because i can not acces into router by browser and before i could
[03:57] <uruk> reset router?
[03:57] <ecojud> uruk: mmm, I don't know if that is necessary yet
[03:57] <ecojud> uruk: have you tried a power cycle?
[03:58] <uruk> power cycle?
[03:58] <ecojud> uruk: removing the power for 30 seconds and turning it back on
[03:59] <uruk> power cycle for pc or router
[03:59] <ecojud> router
[03:59] <uruk> ok
[03:59] <ecojud> uruk: come back and tell us how it went
[04:01] <ecojud> that moment when live usb saves your ass after you decided messing with your EFI partition was a great idea
[04:02] <ziddey> i'm having a hard time setting up a uefi persistent usb stick. it boots fine in uefi without persistence. but adding persistent to grub causes it to just drop to initramfs
[04:03] <ziddey> i made a 2gb fat32 for the iso and a 6gb ext4 for casper-rw. what am i doing wrong?
[04:04] <uruk> ecojud don't work
[04:05] <uruk> i can not to acces into router
[04:05] <ecojud> uruk: :-(
[04:05] <Gallomimia> who do you tell when you spot a minor error on the ubuntu.com site?
[04:05] <uruk> reset router?
[04:06] <Gallomimia> oh. found the link at the bottom
[04:06] <WizardGed> yes try that uruk that may be your enkidu
[04:06] <ecojud> uruk: if you reset it, you will need to reconfigure it.  That may not go well if you still cannot access the configuration settings after you reset it
[04:07] <uruk> well?
[04:08] <ecojud> uruk: just want to give you a fair warning... if your device is failing, a reset may only prevent you from using the router at all... maybe I am out of line saying that
[04:08] <IG99> Hi all :) On a 14.04, what's the canonical way to restart network?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> IG99: sudo service network-manager restart
[04:09] <ecojud> uruk: maybe do it if you have another way to access the internet without it... then your service will be uninterrupted in case you have to replace the router altogether
[04:10] <uruk> how to solved?
[04:10] <ecojud> uruk: are you accessing the router wirelessly?
[04:10] <uruk> no
[04:10] <ecojud> uruk: or are you using a cable?
[04:10] <uruk> cable
[04:11] <ecojud> what brand?  linksys?
[04:12] <uruk> rj45
[04:12] <ecojud> your router brand
[04:12] <ecojud> uruk: sorry, I was not clear
[04:14] <uruk> n&c
[04:14] <uruk> why you need the router brand?
[04:15] <minized_> im using ubuntu 16.04. is it possible to plug insert the sd card of my raspberry pi 3, and use boxes to basically install the OS onto the SD card? this is so I can setup the VNC in the GUI as i do not have a monitor for the raspberry
[04:15] <ecojud> uruk: just curious... I'm checking for common problems
[04:15] <IG99> lotuspsychje:  on a headless machine without network-manager sorry
[04:16] <IG99> tried ifup/ifdown but the routes do not get properly set
[04:16] <uruk> but i think this is a problem of system not the router
[04:18] <ecojud> uruk: you have internet access... traceroute is working and counting hops beyond your router... it seems your router is blocking access to its GUI and ignoring ping requests
[04:18] <uruk> because before i can acces to router by browser , and now can't
[04:19] <ecojud> uruk: have you made any changes to your system since then?
[04:19] <uruk> change servername
[04:21] <uruk> /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[04:21] <ecojud> uruk: when you try to browse to <IP_ADDRESS>   what does it say?
[04:21] <uruk> not stopped to reload
[04:23] <uruk> conect all time but don't acces
[04:23] <uruk> don't say nothing
[04:24] <ecojud> uruk: yeah, I guess your only option is to reset it.  Do you have a modem you could connect to directly if your router fails?
[04:24] <uruk> ok i reset and configure
[04:25] <ecojud> uruk: good luck
[04:25] <uruk> thanks ecojud
[04:25] <ecojud> gosh, I hope that works out for uruk
[04:27] <HickorySmokedBac> How is the gaming scene coming along with Steam and Ubuntu?  Are there still a lot of games that are Windows only ?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> HickorySmokedBac: you might wanna try #gamingonlinux :p
[04:28] <somsip> !discuss | HickorySmokedBac
[04:33] <IG99> lotuspsychje: ip link does the job. the upstart scripts are a mess
[04:33] <IG99> So, you set the link down, bring it back up (ip link foo down/up) and the ifup foo
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> IG99: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might assist you better for your case?
[04:34] <IG99> oh haha. there's server one
[04:34] <IG99> lotuspsychje: thank you
[04:40] <WizardGed> I'm sad I don't think uruk got my witty reference
[04:41] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: <just a suggestion> but s/guys/people/ <- it matters to some people [not really me personally]
[04:41] <glooby> In Xenial I can't find my AMD graphics card in the Additional Drivers tab, I only see the "Unknown: Unknown" thing for the CPU microcode. Is this normal?
[04:41] <Solarbaby> by chance is anyone of you running Ubuntu 16.04 on a 2009 Mac Mini?
[04:41] <TrentP> my apt.conf.d/02proxy file works with Ubuntu-MATE, but not with regular Ubuntu...?  I wonder if main proxy setting is interfering with apt proxy.
[04:42] <zykotick9> glooby: there is a reason for that...
[04:42] <Solarbaby> glooby: hehe that is exactly the question I was about to ask regarding my 2009 mac mini
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: i never got any complaints, and its a freedom of speech..
[04:43] <Solarbaby> I suspect that unknown driver is the reason my earphone port isn't functioning
[04:44] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: "freedom to be a sexist ass" = yes
[04:44] <shanemikel> any mention of trouble with upgrades to lts?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> glooby: AMD/ATI driver for 16.04 are in the kernel .
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: the term 'guys' can be used for women aswell in a group..i dont see your point, nor need for rude language..
[04:47] <glooby> Bashing-om: Alright.
[04:48]  * zykotick9 notes "guys" is not an inclusive term...  and drops issue entirely.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> shanemikel: from wich version?
[04:51] <shanemikel> 15.10 and 14.04
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> shanemikel: backup before you upgrade, we had many users with succesfully upgrades already, but doesnt meant your system cant have an issue..
[04:52] <zykotick9> shanemikel: note, 14.04 won't upgrade until 16.04.1 <- summer i hear...
[04:52] <shanemikel> actually, I'm prob gonna do a reinstall on the 14.04 one, because I just remembered It has encrypted home dir, and the thought makes me uneasy
[04:53] <zykotick9> shanemikel: <sidenote> consider Full Disk Encryption with LUKS if you care about your data-at-rest...
[04:54] <shanemikel> I don't, I really just did on a whim, and it'll be easier without
[04:54] <Solarbaby> zykotick9: for a long time I was upset that SteamOS didn't offer full disk encryption during install
[04:55] <Solarbaby> zykotick9: I ended up installing VirtualBox in desktop mode and ram Ubuntu 16.04 in there with Luks
[04:55] <zykotick9> shanemikel: i agree about the "easier without"... but, i'm not a fan of home directory encryption
[04:56] <Solarbaby> zykotick9: I used home directory encryption as an option when dual booting with windows on the same drive.. I did that just to keep MS out of my private life.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Solarbaby
[04:57] <ramrebol> Hi. I want to install a program on my ubuntu 14.04 from the ubuntu 16.04 repository. The problem is that on my ubuntu 14.04 the version available for this program is the 4.0 and on ubuntu 16.04 is 5.0 (and I need the new version and I don't want to recompile from the source). It is possible to choise the ubuntu 16.04 repository only for this program?
[04:57] <Solarbaby> lotuspsychje: sorry man
[04:57] <somsip> ramrebol: no. Look for a PPA with the version you want maybe. What package is it?
[04:58] <ramrebol> somsip: paraview
[04:58] <somsip> !info paraview
[04:58] <B0g4r7> I'm confused about all these terms surrounding the gui.
[04:58] <inocuous> !info hexchat
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> B0g4r7: whats going on?
[04:59] <B0g4r7> My list of terms is "gdm, lightdm, xfce, lxde, kde, compiz, metacity, gnome, unity".  Can you help me to classify them?
[04:59] <somsip> ramrebol: there is this PPA but looks old to me. But this is where you can search from https://launchpad.net/~gladky-anton/+archive/ubuntu/paraview
[04:59] <inocuous> I don't like the new version of hexchat
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: use another irc client?
[04:59] <B0g4r7> I don't quite understand what all those things are and how they work together.
[04:59] <inocuous> probably will now.
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !manual | B0g4r7
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !windowmanagers | B0g4r7
[05:00] <B0g4r7> Somehow I don't think the manual will explain what I'm...yeah, that looks more relevant.
[05:00] <somsip> B0g4r7: most answers here http://askubuntu.com/questions/18078/what-is-the-difference-between-a-desktop-environment-and-a-window-manager
[05:00] <B0g4r7> thx.
[05:01] <Triffid_Hunter> inocuous: kvirc is awesome if you're shopping for irc clients
[05:02] <inocuous> I liked the transparent background feature in hexchat
[05:02] <B0g4r7> OK, so that explains window managers and desktop environments.  Where does compiz fit into this picture?
[05:02] <somsip> B0g4r7: it's on that link I gave you
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !compiz | B0g4r7
[05:03] <B0g4r7> ah, yes.  :reads further:
[05:03] <somsip> B0g4r7: read it all. Then ask
[05:03] <B0g4r7> Touche.
[05:03] <zykotick9> B0g4r7: just an fyi, but compiz only exists on ubuntu...  it was abondoned everywhere else long ago...
[05:03] <B0g4r7> Interesting.
[05:07] <ramrebol> somsip: thanks, which luck with the install :)
[05:07] <somsip> ramrebol: np
[05:08] <inocuous> I just upgraded from 14.4 LTS to 16.4 LTS
[05:08] <ramrebol> somsip: np?
[05:08] <inocuous> took a long time.
[05:08] <somsip> ramrebol: No Problem
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | inocuous
[05:09] <ramrebol> somsip: thanks again (my english is not good enough)
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | somsip
[05:09] <somsip> ramrebol: :)
[05:10] <inocuous> I decided not to wait.
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: you forced upgrade with -d then?
[05:10] <inocuous> yes
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: ok good luck mate
[05:13] <inocuous> I'm a recreational user. I don't see much difference in it.
[05:13] <inocuous> other than the changes in hexchat, I like everthing
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: what hexchat changes are an issue for you?
[05:16] <inocuous> functionally is the same, performance and all. I don't think there is anything I have tried to date that I like more, but I was using the option for transparent background for the client window.
[05:17] <inocuous> that was taken out it seems.  A couple sliders missing
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: window opacity is still there?
[05:20] <inocuous> for my set up, it makes the entire window disappear.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: ah you wanted only the inside transparant like xchat?
[05:21] <inocuous> yes, that's what I had with the 14.4 release. Not sure what version of hexchat that would have been.
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !info hexchat trusty
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: you could file a new bug against it, as a suggestion perhaps?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: maybe the maintainers will re-feature it
[05:24] <inocuous> The thing is, the entire window disappears and you have to roll around the screen to get the menu to pop back up. It's an interesting adventure. lol
[05:25] <Trusty_1404> Hello can someone help me with an issue I'm having installing Skype 4.3
[05:26] <hateball> !help | Trusty_1404
[05:29] <Trusty_1404> Package Dependencies Cannot be Resolves:   This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[05:29] <hateball> !skype | Trusty_1404
[05:30] <Trusty_1404> I tried everything that the webpage recomends to no avail.
[05:30] <Bray90820> How would I combine 2 files in the terminal?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> inocuous: keep an eye on changes/bugs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hexchat
[05:31] <hateball> Bray90820: combine how? what type of files?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: can you explain what you want to do?
[05:31] <inocuous> thanks lotuspsychje
[05:33] <Bray90820> hateball: lotuspsychje I wanna add the contents of "id_rsa.pub" to "known_hosts"
[05:34] <hateball> Bray90820: cat originalfile.txt >> destinationfile.txt
[05:34] <hateball> Bray90820: >> will append content
[05:34] <hateball> or you can: cat file1 file2 file3 >> combinedfile
[05:35] <Bray90820> hateball: Thanks
[05:35] <zykotick9> Bray90820: WARNING!!!  id_rsa.pub & known_hosts are DIFFERENT formats.  it won't work.
[05:36] <Bray90820> zykotick9: Worked perfectly
[05:36] <zykotick9> ahhh....
[05:38] <zykotick9> Bray90820: maybe...  sorry, my bad.  i was cating id_rsa vs id_rsa.pub... but still, i'm not 100% it'd work...
[05:38] <Trusty_1404> I am trying to install Skype 3.0, I keep getting this:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:38] <Trusty_1404> skype: Depends: skype-bin but it is a virtual package
[05:38] <Bray90820> zykotick9: It's ok It's
[05:38] <zykotick9> Bray90820: cool.  sorry, my bad.
[05:39] <Bray90820> No worries
[05:42] <zykotick9> Bray90820: <sidenote> the "ssh-copy-id" is super handy
[05:42] <Bray90820> Ehh I already did what I needed to do
[05:42] <zykotick9> ^^ for next time ;)
[05:42] <dennis_> hi,I recently upgraded my ubuntu to 16.04 ,but am not able to extend my display using hdmi port.Can anyone help me?
[05:45] <Trussty1404> I am trying to install Skype 4.3 and get this:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:45] <Trussty1404> skype: Depends: skype-bin but it is a virtual package
[05:46] <pitiye> guys pls check this http://pastebin.com/aHDp3nqV
[05:50] <Bashing-om> pitiye: So, What are you wanying to do ? The package manager advises " You should explicitly select one to install. "
[05:51] <Bashing-om> wanting*
[05:51] <dennis_> @Bashing-om -- which one should i install ?
[05:52] <pitiye> Bashing-om: but when i explicitly select one , i get this ! http://pastebin.com/DSRQ5fXk
[05:52] <Bashing-om> pitiye: What is the goal ? What led you to this ?
[05:52] <Trussty1404> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:52] <Trussty1404> skype: Depends: skype-bin but it is a virtual package
[05:53] <pitiye> Bashing-om: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[05:53] <pitiye> bebootstrap
[05:53] <pitiye> debootstrap
[05:53] <Trussty1404> I cannot instal skype 4.3 because of this:   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:53] <Trussty1404> skype: Depends: skype-bin but it is a virtual package
[05:54] <Bray90820> What was changed in the shudders file from 14.04 and 16.04
[05:54] <Bray90820> *Sudoers
[05:56] <BenderRodriguez> Does anyone have kvm working on Xenial?
[05:56] <Bashing-om> pitiye: " 3.19.0-58.64 " os not a valid file name . Do ' dpkg -l | grep linux-
[05:56] <dionysus69> I can connect to NFS version 3 but not 4 with the same config. What might be going wrong?
[05:56] <Bashing-om> to see that the -58 kernel is installed .
[05:57] <pitiye> Bashing-om: ii  linux-base                 4.0ubuntu1                   all          Linux image base package
[05:58] <Trussty1404> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:58] <Trussty1404>  skype : Depends: skype-bin
[05:58] <Trussty1404> N: Ignoring file 'trillian.list.2' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[05:58] <Trussty1404> N: Ignoring file 'trillian.list.1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[05:58] <Trussty1404> N: Ignoring file 'trillian.list.2' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[05:58] <Trussty1404> N: Ignoring file 'trillian.list.1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[05:58] <Bashing-om> pitiye: That is it ? try ' sudo apt install linux-generic ' .
[05:59] <pitiye> Bashing-om: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  linux-generic : Depends: linux-image-generic (= <IP_ADDRESS>.56) but it is not going to be installed
[06:00] <Bashing-om> pitiye: Show me the complete output in a pastebin .
[06:00] <pitiye> Bashing-om:  iam trying to install 16.04 with this way , but here kernels listed are below version 4
[06:01] <pitiye> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/JKKbEW5d
[06:02] <pitiye> Bashing-om:  it says unable to resolve aspire , looks like host file is missing ???
[06:06] <Bashing-om> pitiye: You did do step 9 "apt-get install grub-pc linux-image" ?
[06:06] <pitiye> Bashing-om: i didnt want to instal grub-pc twice as my current os already contains it
[06:06] <pitiye> yes i skipped it
[06:08] <Bashing-om> pitiye: If reqyured can install grub later . for now ' sudo apt install linux-image ' . What results ?
[06:10] <pitiye> Bashing-om: same as my first pastie - http://pastebin.com/aHDp3nqV
[06:19] <Bashing-om> pitiye: ' sudo apt install linux-image-3.19.0-58-generic ' . Be aware very tired here and think'n not the best .
[06:24] <dionysus69> I am getting access denied on nfs4 why please help
[06:29] <bwxs> Hello
[06:29] <bwxs> good afternoon everyone
[06:30] <wyf_> .
[06:30] <bwxs> anybody else?
[06:30] <wyf_> yes
[06:31] <bwxs> where r u from
[06:31] <somsip> bwxs: it's a support channel. People dont tend to chat. Try #ubuntu-offtopic unless you have a support question
[06:31] <wyf_> china
[06:31] <bwxs> 靠。。我也是。
[06:31] <somsip> !ot
[06:31] <wyf_> 你会发现，这里其实还有很多。。
[06:31] <bwxs> 。。。
[06:32] <bwxs> 好吧。第一次来。。。哈哈。。。
[06:32] <bwxs> 没有妹纸？
[06:33] <elky> bwxs: only english please
[06:34] <bwxs> Er。。poor english
[06:37] <elky> bwxs: try #ubuntu-cn ?
[06:38] <wyf_> .
[06:39] <bwxs> Yes
[06:39] <bwxs> I am a newer
[06:39] <pitiye> Bash
[06:39] <pitiye> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/DByYH1CM
[06:40] <prago_1> how can I add a specific folder to my terminal's path? e.g. /mydata/myscripts... when I add it to .bashrc and export it, all other programs are out of my path
[06:40] <trijntje> prago_1: thats easy enough to find online, you have to append the new folder to your path, not replace your path
[06:41] <elky> bwxs: there are lots of people in #ubuntu-cn and you don't need english there.
[06:41] <Trusty_1404> I am having trouble install skype 4.3
[06:41] <hateball> prago_1: export PATH="/new/path/:$PATH";
[06:41] <trijntje> prago_1: like so: PATH="$HOME/scripts:$PATH"
[06:42] <somsip> prago_1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path
[06:43] <bwxs> elky where r u from
[06:43] <elky> bwxs: australia
[06:44] <bwxs> wow chinese ubuntu
[06:45] <Trusty_1404> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[06:45] <Trusty_1404> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:45] <Trusty_1404>  skype : Depends: skype-bin
[06:45] <Trusty_1404> N: Ignoring file 'trillian.list.2' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[06:45] <Trusty_1404> N: Ignoring file 'trillian.list.1' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[06:45] <Trusty_1404> N: Ignoring file 'trillian.list.2' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[06:46] <prago_1> trijntje: I added something like that to my .bashrc.. but after that all other commands did not work anymore
[06:46] <somsip> prago_1: then you did it wrong
[06:46] <Bashing-om> pitiye: ' sudo apt install module-init-tools ' .. See what that results .
[06:46] <prago_1> I added path=/folderwithmyscripts and export path
[06:47] <somsip> prago_1: there you go then. You MUST include the old path too
[06:47] <somsip> prago_1: as hateball said -  export PATH="/new/path/:$PATH";
[06:48] <Trusty_1404> Can someone tell me what I need to do?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/16092189/
[06:48] <Bray90820> is crontab -e on a 24 hour clock?
[06:51] <hateball> Trusty_1404: you can start with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:52] <hateball> Bray90820: Yes
[06:52] <Bray90820> hateball: Thanks
[06:53] <Bashing-om> pitiye: Got to reire and rest my weary self .. Best of effort to you .. catch ya later .
[06:54] <bwxs> bye everyone
[06:55] <Trusty_1404> hateball this is the result:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/16092212/
[06:55] <pitiye> guys pls check this out http://pastebin.com/DByYH1CM
[06:56] <hateball> Trusty_1404: yea, so remove your broken list files, as it suggests
[06:57] <shakir> As a new linux user..I wounder if it is possible to use this command: apt-get install girlfriend !
[06:58] <Trusty_1404> I don't know what the hell I'm doing, otherwise I wouldn't be asking random people on here.
[06:59] <Trusty_1404> I have basic functionality with computers, not enough to remove broken files though.
[07:00] <pax2you> shakir: E: Unable to locate package girlfriend :))
[07:02] <Myrtti> and I hope that is the end of that joke
[07:05] <hateball> Trusty_1404: You've somehow managed to add various repositories not included default in Ubuntu
[07:05] <hateball> Trusty_1404: So fix or remove those
[07:06] <hateball> Trusty_1404: "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trillian.list.1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trillian.list.2"
[07:06] <hateball> Trusty_1404: This still has nothing to do with installing Skype however
[07:07] <bwxs> wyf
[07:30] <brianx> how do i disable unity overlay scrollbars in Xenial Xerus 16.04?  unity tweak tool/scrolling/legacy didn't work, nor did dconf-editor com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode nor did export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 in ~/.xprofile
[07:31] <brianx> i did a power off reboot between steps.
[07:33] <xuhui> list
[07:35] <SeerKan> Hi guys
[07:36] <SeerKan> When installing mariadb on ubuntu with apt-get it starts it automatically, since I am doing automation, and the default mysql config is not ok I need it not to start automatically when it's installed
[07:36] <SeerKan> Any way to tell apt not to start it ?
[07:37] <somsip> SeerKan: surely you'd just copy your config over and restart it?
[07:37] <SeerKan> won't work, it creates ibdata of different size and other stuff making it to fail
[07:37] <SeerKan> need it to start only after I add my config
[07:38] <somsip> SeerKan: fair enough
[07:45] <Trusty_1404> Is there a dating chat room on irc?
[07:45] <somsip> !alis | Trusty_1404
[07:55] <effectnet> i am having differnt things not work, getting to be quite a few now
[07:55] <somsip> effectnet: Are you talking about ubuntu here? more details would help
[07:56] <effectnet> ok how come something like vlc player would stop working?
[07:57] <somsip> effectnet: what thing like vlc? Or do you really mean "vlc is not working"?
[07:57] <somsip> effectnet: run it in a terminal and report any error messages, and describe the nature of "not working"
[08:02] <anonkun> how do I run post install triggers?
[08:02] <anonkun> I ended up having to shutdown the install after grub install failed
[08:03] <effectnet> here is part of an error from running vlc at the command line: Maximum number of clients reachedxcb_connection_has_error() returned true
[08:03] <EriC^^> anonkun: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:03] <cengizhan> slm millet
[08:03] <pitiye_> guys pls check this http://pastebin.com/DByYH1CM
[08:03] <rmp> hi to everyone
[08:04] <anonkun> EriC^^, I still have the "install release" application
[08:05] <effectnet> do i need to update something
[08:05] <somsip> effectnet: what version of ubuntu, what version of VLC, and how did you install VLX?
[08:05] <EriC^^> anonkun: what do you mean?
[08:06] <nightysaw81> hi
[08:06] <anonkun> I still have the "install ubuntu" application that you get on the livecd
[08:06] <rmp> does someone know the better way to set up a VPN network with ubuntu 14.04
[08:06] <anonkun> but i've already installed ubuntu and am no longer on the livecd.
[08:06] <anonkun> EriC^^, this happened because post installer triggers and stuff werent run.
[08:06] <nightysaw81> i am looking for a wlan ac usb stick. Does anyone know a model which works out of the box?
[08:06] <nightysaw81> in ac mode?
[08:07] <EriC^^> pitiye_: any ppa's?
[08:07] <effectnet> 14.04, (still determining), and software center
[08:07] <pitiye_> EriC^^: no ppas
[08:07] <rmp> pptp vpn seems that works only with the browser
[08:07] <EriC^^> anonkun: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall <grub packages> ( get them from dpkg -l | grep grub )
[08:08] <effectnet> 2.1.6
[08:08] <effectnet> well i'll reboot i guess, feels like windows
[08:09] <EriC^^> pitiye_: type grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:10] <pitiye_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/vswg
[08:10] <anonkun> also
[08:11] <EriC^^> pitiye_: vivid is eol
[08:11] <EriC^^> !eol
[08:11] <anonkun> will doing sudo snap install ubuntu-core cause any issues?
[08:11] <pitiye_> EriC^^:  i am trying to install 16.04
[08:11] <EriC^^> pitiye_: change the sources first
[08:12] <pitiye_> EriC^^: i am adding this to sources.list > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main
[08:12] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | follow the guide here
[08:12] <effectnet> k rebooting fixed it heh
[08:12] <EriC^^> pitiye_: that's not how to upgrade in ubuntu
[08:12] <pitiye_> then ?
[08:13] <pitiye_> apt-get upgrade didnt work
[08:13] <EriC^^> pitiye_: ok
[08:13] <EriC^^> fix the sources first
[08:14] <EriC^^> and disable the last 3 ppa's
[08:14] <EriC^^> purge them if possible and you dont need them using ppa-purge
[08:14] <EriC^^> then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , or sudo apt-get -f install
[08:15] <EriC^^> and see why apt has installed a newer package of libkmod2 than the other package wants
[08:15] <EriC^^> apt-cache policy <package> shows where the package came from, type apt-cache policy libkmod2 right now
[08:16] <pitiye_> EriC^^:   TY for the tips
[08:16] <pitiye_> will report any issues
[08:17] <EriC^^> no problem, ok
[08:17] <sapa-inyong> where I can download files alldeb?
[08:17] <Nasenmann> Hi, I have network problems on ubuntu 14.04 with a Broadcom BCM57781 interface. Does somebody have an idea on how to install another driver or another way to fix this?
[08:17] <EriC^^> sapa-inyong: which deb?
[08:18] <hivar1>  hi there, i have some problem. I want to add windows printer, but  it always keep aking for some sort of password and username. In windows  I have no accounts it should connect automaticly. The same is, when I  want to enter the workgroup. I have googled it for like 5 days but  nothing found. Can someone help me?
[08:18] <lenovo>  helloo , i have 3g modul for sim card on my Thinkpad Lenovo t410.I installed Xubuntu 14.04 and also drivers for gobi 2000, in the menu networks preference is shown mobile broudband, I create network for bulgarian Vivacom, but when I click connect and writing the password something went wrong and it is not working.Please if there is a chance to avoid the problem please help me .Thank you
[08:18] <sapa-inyong> ubuntu restricted extras
[08:20] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: what issues did you encounter?
[08:22] <cristian_c> hivar1: how have you setup your printer?
[08:22] <EriC^^> sapa-inyong: for which ubuntu?
[08:22] <Nasenmann> christian_c: I get timeouts for connections to some servers. Switching the MTU to 900 does work for some connections, but some other timeout problems persist
[08:22] <cristian_c> lenovo: pastebin your dmesg and syalog
[08:22] <cristian_c> syslog
[08:22] <Nasenmann> @christian_g: I could not connect to e.g. https://hub.docker.com/ until I set the MTU to 900
[08:23] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: ubuntu desktop?
[08:23] <Nasenmann> @christian_c: yes
[08:23] <rembo> hello everyone, i want to add a sftp user to see only one folder, not the rest, and to have read/write permision also to this folder, how can i do it?
[08:24] <hivar1>  hi there, i have some problem. I want to add windows printer, but  it always keep aking for some sort of password and username. In windows  I have no accounts it should connect automaticly. The same is, when I  want to enter the workgroup. I have googled it for like 5 days but  nothing found. Can someone help me?
[08:24] <cristian_c> hivar1: how have you setup your printer?
[08:24] <cristian_c> !broadcom
[08:25] <cristian_c> hivar1: I've privates disabled, enter you request in channel
[08:26] <hivar1> cristian_c: 10:25:09) hivar1: i followed this https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/setup-windows-printer-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[08:26] <hivar1> (10:25:18) hivar1: i can see the network but cannot acces it
[08:26] <hivar1> (10:25:47) hivar1: i dont know whitch username/password to add, the one from my linux dosent work
[08:26] <brontosaurusrex> rembo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1526919/linux-shell-to-restrict-sftp-users-to-their-home-directories
[08:28] <hivar1> cristian_c: just for the record printer is working on the network witch windows client (and worked in my linux client till upgrade)
[08:28] <cristian_c> hivar1: 'upgrade'?
[08:29] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: ethernet?
[08:29] <Nasenmann> yes
[08:29] <Nasenmann> christian_c: yes
[08:30] <hivar1> cristian_c: i think samba upgraded, and then it stops working, then I install fesh copy of 16.04 xubuntu. The problem remains it always asking for username password, but the windows client is set to let everyone
[08:31] <cristian_c> hivar1: so, now, have you freshly installed xenial?
[08:32] <hivar1> cristian_c: yes I have fresh installed Xubuntu, but the problem is with samba i think
[08:33] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: dual or single ethernet?
[08:34] <Nasenmann> christian_c: single
[08:34] <cristian_c> hivar1: how have you added exactly your printer in xenial?
[08:35] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: are you using gigabit connection?
[08:35] <cristian_c> 1000mb/s
[08:35] <ttyp123> can someone tell me what this command does ? what exactly is it searching for ? /bin/find // -name .*history ( -links 2 -o -type l )
[08:35] <Nasenmann> christian_c: How can I find that out ot change?
[08:35] <cristian_c> either megabit (100 mb/s)
[08:35] <Nasenmann> christian_c: or change
[08:35] <tmladek> hi, I just put the 16.04 x64 iso on my usb drive using Rufus, but when I boot it, there isnt even a menu asking me what do I want to do (i.e. install, live, memtest) - it just goes straight to the loading screen with dots (on my second screen) and then blacks out and does nothing
[08:36] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: with ethtool
[08:36] <cristian_c> you can change speed
[08:36] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: lshw -C network
[08:36] <hivar1> cristian_c:I tryed it like this but im stucked on username and password :https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/setup-windows-printer-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[08:37] <cristian_c> hivar1: I've not asked what guide you have followed
[08:37] <cristian_c> I've asked wht you have exactly done
[08:37] <cristian_c> *what
[08:37] <ttyp123> anyone ?
[08:37] <Nasenmann> christian_c: This is the output: http://pastebin.com/k01uMf58
[08:38] <cristian_c> hivar1: post a picture/screenshot
[08:38] <cristian_c> !image
[08:38] <EriC^^> tmladek: try making the usb using linux live usb creator
[08:38] <EriC^^> tmladek: also checksum the iso
[08:39] <tmladek> EriC^^: it is downloaded off bittorrent, and I rechecked before writing
[08:39] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: speed=1Gbit/s
[08:39] <EriC^^> tmladek: ok, try linux live usb creator
[08:39] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: btw, you seem having dual eth interfaces
[08:39] <EriC^^> tmladek: are you using uefi?
[08:39] <cristian_c> !picture
[08:40] <tmladek> EriC^^: how do I tell?
[08:40] <tmladek> I think so, though
[08:40] <EriC^^> tmladek: in the bios if it says uefi, and csm legacy is disabled/turned off
[08:40] <Nasenmann> christian_c: Ok, what does this mean for me?
[08:41] <EriC^^> tmladek: try to hold shift when the pc boots
[08:41] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: in the web, I read about issues with dual nic on bcm57758
[08:41] <hivar1> cristian_c: Printers - Add printer - Network printer - Printer with WIndows Samba - then I add IP of the host  - it finds WOURKGROUP - i find machine with the printer but i cannot go further. popup come up and asking for username and password (my linux dosent work), but the host is set to let everyone in.
[08:41] <Nasenmann> christian_c: Ok, is there something I can do?
[08:42] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: you can try to change the ethernet speed (to 100 mb/s)
[08:42] <EriC^^> tmladek: if you get a grub screen, press e over try ubuntu and add "nomodeset" to the line that has linux vmlinuz.........
[08:42] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+x to boot it
[08:43] <tmladek> EriC^^: I didnt get a grub screen, but rather the ubuntu menu
[08:43] <rmp> does anyone know the better way to set up a VPN network with ubuntu 14.04
[08:43] <rmp> pptp vpn seems that works only with the browser
[08:43] <EriC^^> tmladek: aha, i think it's booting in legacy
[08:44] <EriC^^> tmladek: try to press f6 for boot options and choose nomodeset
[08:44] <tmladek> EriC^^: I selected "Install Ubuntu", and got briefly a flash of a cursor, then black again
[08:44] <tmladek> alright, Ill try the nomodeset
[08:44] <EriC^^> which laptop is this?
[08:44] <cristian_c> hivar1: 'prompt user if authentication is required'?
[08:45] <tmladek> it is not a laptop
[08:45] <EriC^^> which pc?
[08:45] <tmladek> one I built myself
[08:45] <EriC^^> ok cool
[08:45] <EriC^^> which vga?
[08:46] <mephors> Hi, I'm on 14.04.4 LTS and would like to upgrade to 16.04. I have set the upgrade manager to only notify me of LTS upgrades. My understanding is that 16.04 was released on the 21. of april but I am not offered the upgrade. Is 16.04 not LTS (yet)?
[08:46] <somsip> mephors: not until 16.04.1 strictly speaking
[08:46] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrade | mephors
[08:46] <tmladek> EriC^^: NVidia GTX 460v2; but with nomodeset the thing booted, but the resolution is all wonky
[08:46] <mephors> ah ok thank you guys
[08:47] <cristian_c> EriC^^: hello
[08:47] <EriC^^> tmladek: ok maybe you can install and then install the proper drivers after the installation
[08:47] <EriC^^> cristian_c: hi
[08:47] <cristian_c> I've tried to start my own .service file
[08:48] <cristian_c> but when I use systemctl start myservice.service, I don't see my service in the task manager
[08:48] <Nasenmann> christian_c: This did not change anything. Do you have another idea?
[08:48] <cristian_c> I've also tried systemctl status myservice.service, but I can't figure out what is the issue
[08:48] <wyf> pptp is global, not only with the browser
[08:49] <EriC^^> cristian_c: maybe it's quitting quickly
[08:49] <cristian_c> I've looked also at syslog, but I can't figure out what is the issue
[08:49] <cristian_c> Quit: muka [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
[08:49] <cristian_c> EriC^^: maybe, youcare right :)
[08:49] <EriC^^> cristian_c: try to add a > /tmp/log 2>&1 to the service
[08:49] <cristian_c> you're
[08:49] <cristian_c> EriC^^: execstart?
[08:49] <EriC^^> it's a script?
[08:49] <cristian_c> EriC^^: yes
[08:50] <cristian_c> EriC^^: execstart value in the unit file is a .sh script
[08:50] <EriC^^> try to add it in the execstart
[08:50] <cristian_c> EriC^^: ok
[08:51] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: have you changed the speed?
[08:51] <Nasenmann_> christian_c: This did not change anything. Do you have another idea?
[08:52] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: lshw -C network
[08:55] <Nasenmann> christian_c: Thank you. I will just buy another interface :)
[08:55] <cristian_c> Nasenmann: lshw -C network
[08:55] <cristian_c> lol
[08:55]  * cristian_c thinks maybe these users are trolling, maybe...
[08:59] <rp2> I ran into problems trying to use the Ubuntu documentation as it was out of date (as usual). Now I'd like to fix that page, but I'm afraid to mess it up. What do I do?  This is the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileIntegrityAIDE
[09:04] <abbas_> hi eveery body , what is the Mint channel ??
[09:04] <abbas_> #Mint
[09:04] <abbas_> ?
[09:04] <jason__> abbas /msg alis list mint
[09:04] <cristian_c> abbas_: #linuxmint, I think
[09:05] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I've tried, no log files in /tmp
[09:05] <siorai> So. Guess who gets to troubleshoot a wireless dongle! woo!
[09:05] <abbas_> cristian_c: thanks dude
[09:05] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I try to reboot
[09:05] <EriC^^> cristian_c: did enable the service?
[09:06] <cristian_c> EriC^^: yeah, with daemon-reload and enable service too
[09:06] <cristian_c> now, I've restarted the machine
[09:08] <cristian_c> EriC^^: no log files in /tmp after reboot, too...
[09:08] <siorai> Can't seem to get my AC6000 to show up regardless of pintu's patched driver
[09:09] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I can pastebin the output of systemctl status, if you want
[09:10] <dreamcat4> hi. need help setting locales on 16.04
[09:10] <dreamcat4> they changed it
[09:10] <EriC^^> cristian_c: ok
[09:11] <prago_1> hi. since 15.10 network-if changed from eth0 to enps03 for example. in "normal" ubuntu I can get the "legacy" back when adding this to /etc/default/grub:   net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
[09:12] <prago_1> in ubuntu server this does not works.. I have NO interface after this.
[09:12] <prago_1> how to do it?
[09:12] <dreamcat4> heres my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16092761/
[09:12] <dreamcat4> LANG is not set (on new logins)
[09:13] <dreamcat4> yet /etc/default/locale has LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[09:14] <Triffid_Hunter> prago_1: change your stuff to use the new names? they're better because they're consistent across reboots, unlike the old scheme which could change and needed to be bludgeoned by startup scripts to maintain consistency
[09:15] <prago_1> just tried to use them.. in a v-server with many vbox headless machines.. the new ones are very "dynamically".. dit not go well..
[09:16] <prago_1> but whats the reason it works in ubuntu/(*)buntu... but not in ubuntu-server?
[09:16] <prago_1> after I change grub file I have no if at all
[09:17] <cristian_c> dreamcat4: you are administrator
[09:21] <cristian_c> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/8KcFhpRq
[09:26] <EriC^^> cristian_c: what happens when you run it from a normal terminal?
[09:26] <cristian_c> EriC^^: launching the .sh script. do you mean?
[09:26] <cristian_c> either launching systemctl start?
[09:32] <dreamcat4> anyone know how to set the locale properly on ubuntu 16.04?
[09:32] <nebg> hello everyone i cannot understand what the process dnsmasq does... can somebody explain it to me in simple terms ?
[09:32] <dreamcat4> its a dns server
[09:32] <DJones> !locale | dreamcat4 Not something I've done, but the bot's links should help,
[09:34] <swenzel> Recently I've installed 16.04 x64 on my machine. When I start it the screen goes black with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner after the usual ubuntu boot throbber. Then the machine beeps and I can see the login screen. Not sure how to debug this.
[09:34] <dreamcat4> yeah. already followed those instructions. it didnt help. the cmds say 'success' but LANG= still isnt set
[09:35] <dreamcat4> and pages last edited: 2013 is way before 16.04
[09:36] <EriC^^> cristian_c: yes, the .sh script
[09:36] <cristian_c> EriC^^: if I launch the .sh script directly, it works
[09:36] <cristian_c> EriC^^: it worked also with upstart, in past
[09:37] <EriC^^> cristian_c: ok try to remove the > /tmp from execstart
[09:37] <cristian_c> EriC^^: but with systemd, I had to write a unit/.service file
[09:37] <cristian_c> EriC^^: ok, and then?
[09:38] <EriC^^> cristian_c: put bash -c "/path/to/script.sh > /tmp/log 2>&1"
[09:39] <cristian_c> EriC^^: ok
[09:41] <chboto> OMG
[09:44] <cristian_c> EriC^^: systemd does not accept the bash string
[09:45] <aredpanda`w> Anyone had their vbox installation broken after the update? When I try rebuilding the kernel modules it tells me that it faield to start the kernel module.
[09:46] <cristian_c> EriC^^: executable path is not absolute, ignoring: bash -c "/usr/local/bin/html2pop3/html2pop3.sh > /tmp/html2pop3log 2>&1"
[09:47] <EriC^^> cristian_c: try /bin/bash -c "/usr/local.."
[09:47] <Alberto80> Is there any way I can definitely disable a wifi interface?
[09:47] <cristian_c> EriC^^: ok
[09:47] <Alberto80> In Ubuntu 16.04
[09:48] <rp2> swenzel: what is there to debug? what do you expect instead? my 14.04 installations do this, too
[09:49] <swenzel> rp2, doesn't look like what's suppoed to happen... at least my other installations don't do this
[09:49] <TJ-> cristian_c: please read "man systemd.service" and the section on ExecStart - this is *not* a shell command line
[09:49] <swenzel> rp2, I admit it's hardly more than an annoyance, though
[09:50] <cristian_c> TJ-: ok
[09:50] <TJ-> cristian_c: if you want to redirect I/O you'll need to call a script that does the I/O redirection itself, as in "ExecStart=/bin/bash /path/to/my-script.bash"
[09:50] <cristian_c> EriC^^: now, it fails
[09:51] <TJ-> cristian_c: the first argument of ExecStart *must* be an absolute path to an exectuable
[09:51] <lenovo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16093005/
[09:51] <cristian_c> TJ-: I'd like only make the process active
[09:51] <swenzel> rp2, what I expect is transition from throbber to login screen without beeping and the black screen
[09:51] <TJ-> cristian_c: what do you mean by 'active' ?
[09:51] <EriC^^> cristian_c: anything in /tmp/log?
[09:52] <cristian_c> TJ-: when I launch the service (either booting the machine), process is not present in the task manager
[09:52] <cristian_c> EriC^^: you are right, now there is a log in /tmp
[09:53] <TJ-> cristian_c: right, you want to start it. That imples the process keeps itself running and doesn't exit. So, *inside* the script you'll need to do any I/O logging yourself, you *cannot* use shall I/O redirection with systemd.service's ExecStart= --- that is *not* a shell command
[09:54] <cristian_c> EriC^^: log contents: Sintax: /usr/local/bin/html2pop3/html2pop3.sh {start|stop|status|restart}
[09:54] <TJ-> cristian_c: systemd sanitizes the ExecStart arguments before executing the command
[09:54] <cristian_c> TJ-: it seems exited
[09:54] <cristian_c> TJ-: ok
[09:54] <EriC^^> cristian_c: you forgot the "start" after the script name
[09:55] <TJ-> cristian_c: right, because you didn't add "start" as an argument
[09:55] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I've removed it when I made the change you've suggested, but now I put it again
[09:57] <cristian_c> EriC^^: now the log says: "html2pop3 starting..."
[09:57] <simbo> is anyone able to help me with dist upgrade? If i do it through the UI, it asks for my password and then does nothing, and if i do it via ssh command line I get an attribute erro 'AptCDrom' object has no attribute 'restore_backup'
[09:59] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I think it exited, as previously
[09:59] <cristian_c> the process is not present in the tsk manager
[09:59] <cristian_c> *task
[09:59] <EriC^^> cristian_c: no errors?
[09:59] <cristian_c> EriC^^: no
[09:59] <EriC^^> maybe it's missing some environment variable?
[10:00] <lundmar> TJ-: hi. Just curious if you had any chance to look into the gnome-terminal/unity issue?
[10:03] <cristian_c> EriC^^: it's strange, if I launch the .sh from terminal, it works....
[10:03] <TJ-> lundmar: briefly, but have other issues to finish first
[10:03] <cristian_c> EriC^^: and in the command line I don't add any environment variables
[10:04] <EriC^^> cristian_c: can you pastebin the .service file?
[10:04] <lundmar> TJ-: ok. Noticed that there is a guy assigned in the bug report but not much reponse from him in the bug thread.
[10:04] <cristian_c> EriC^^: ok
[10:04] <TJ-> cristian_c: the script is relying on PATH or other variables in the environment that don't exist for service scripts. Inside your script, as the first command, put "env" and it'll write the variables that exist to the log file you're capturing
[10:05] <Alberto80> Is there any way I can definitely disable a wifi interface?
[10:05] <cristian_c> TJ-: I'm thinking you are right,  about this
[10:05] <nebg> hello everyone i removed dnsmasq on xubuntu and now the network doesn't work
[10:05] <nebg> why ?
[10:06] <nebg> how can i go back ? i'm on xubuntu
[10:06] <popey> reinstall it?
[10:06] <popey> nebg: you could get the deb on a usb key on another machine
[10:07] <popey> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dnsmasq
[10:07] <TJ-> lundmar: looks like a Canonical dev so probably part of the internal unity team
[10:07] <Alberto80> I've got a laptop with an USB Wi-Fi adapter which works way better than the built-in one
[10:08] <lundmar> TJ-: ok
[10:08] <TJ-> lundmar: no response is necessary if he can reproduce, as I would expect, it'll just get fixed
[10:08] <Alberto80> How can I definitely disable the built-in one?
[10:08] <cristian_c> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/SAV6UuDh
[10:09] <lundmar> TJ-: hmm ok, so the ubuntu devs dont communicate in public that much.
[10:09] <TJ-> nebg: manually configure your name-servers once and you can reinstall it, or else if the package is still in the apt archive locally, just do "apt-get install dnsmasq"
[10:09] <TJ-> lundmar: yes, but if we don't need to say anything its a waste of time and space
[10:09] <mcphail> lundmar: what's the bug number? I'm having some terminal oddness in 16.04
[10:10] <lundmar> mcphail: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1521302
[10:10] <TJ-> lundmar: if Marco is dealing I'll leave it alone, no need 2 people messing with it
[10:10] <mcphail> lundmar: I'll +1 that one - was going to file that bug myself
[10:11] <lundmar> TJ-: sure, makes sense. It's just that he has been assigned from the start but I can't tell if he is working actively on it. However, the bug affects a lot of people.
[10:12] <lundmar> mcphail: yes, its a quite annoying bug. Please +1 on the bug affects you in the bug report.
[10:12] <mcphail> lundmar: done
[10:12] <lundmar> maybe that will help bump its priority.
[10:12] <mcphail> lundmar: I've been minimising then selecting the "80x24" from teh menu
[10:13] <TJ-> lundmar: you can always email him via his profile's email address ask him to provide a heads-up in the bug report
[10:13] <lundmar> mcphail: haha, quite a workaround
[10:13] <DiamondSword> hello.. I have installed Windows on VirtualBox on Ubuntu machine, but I have no internet connection on VM (Windows machine) I have selected Bridged Adapter but still I have no internet connection, please help ...
[10:13] <TJ-> lundmar: use his @canonical.com address
[10:13] <cristian_c> TJ-: the script is the typical .sh with 'case ... in start), stop), status), restart), .....'. I can add the env command at th fist line (below the hasbang and commented lines)
[10:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:13] <lundmar> TJ-: ok
[10:14] <cristian_c> *the first
[10:14] <TJ-> cristian_c: yes, after shebang line
[10:14] <cristian_c> ok
[10:14] <TJ-> cristian_c: then you can see the PATH for example. If your script is calling programs by their names, not absolute paths, they may not be found on the PATH the script receives from systemd.
[10:14] <TJ-> cristian_c: especially if they're under /usr/local/...
[10:15] <marhelle> hallo
[10:15] <lundmar> TJ-: geez, one gets dizzy just looking at the critical/high bugs assigned to this guy haha
[10:15] <mircx1> Hello i need a help please i have problem with suspend in ubuntu 16 is no back how i can fix it please?
[10:15] <TJ-> cristian_c: if you're unsure, you can also add into your script a series of "which <program-name>" for each external program your script calls, to see if the script can 'see' them on the PATH it receives
[10:16] <TJ-> lundmar: that's Unity for you :P
[10:16] <lundmar> yeah haha
[10:16] <nebg> TJ-, but why uninstalling dnsmasq makes this problem ?
[10:16] <rp2> swenszel: well it's not something I want to know how to fix, sorry ...
[10:16] <TJ-> nebg: because dnsmasq is the PC's local DNS server. without it, you have no way to resolve hostnames to IP addresses unless they're in /etc/hosts
[10:17] <cristian_c> TJ-: the .sh script calls java command with JAVA environment variable contained in the .sh script, and  a COMMAND environment variable launching jar stuff, always contained in the .sh script
[10:17] <cristian_c> TJ-: so, maybe you are right
[10:17] <TJ-> cristian_c: ahhh, that is a recipe for problems at init time, you will need to provide absolute paths I suspect
[10:18] <TJ-> cristian_c: your script may just need to add additional paths to PATH as in PATH="${PATH}:/my/additional/path"
[10:18] <cristian_c> TJ-: I'm reading the .sh script in the start) section, and I think you've found the trick
[10:18] <mircx1> ?
[10:19] <mircx1> Hello i need a help please i have problem with suspend in ubuntu 16 is no back how i can fix it please?
[10:20] <cristian_c> because the echo -n 'starting html2pop3" line is printed in the logfile and systemdctl status, but after the echo, there is a $JAVA $COMMAND line, so you'are right about the environment variable issue
[10:21] <TJ-> cristian_c: good; you can see how to fix it now :)
[10:21] <elichai2> hi
[10:22] <elichai2> the file syslog.1 in /var/log is weight 22GB
[10:22] <elichai2> so i looked in the last 100 lines and they are full of the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16093295/
[10:22] <elichai2> any idea what that means?
[10:22] <elichai2> `ERROR:cache_creator.cc(129)] Unable to create cache` `ERROR:pnacl_translation_cache.cc(358)] Backend init failed:net::ERR_FAILED`
[10:22] <cristian_c> TJ-: as you suspected, the COMMAND variable uses relative paths in the string value
[10:22] <cristian_c> and not absolute, so it's a source of issues for systemd
[10:23] <cristian_c> if env is not executed in the script
[10:25] <aredpanda`w> I'm using UEFI Secure boot on my installation, and this is preventing VirtualBox from functioning properly(the kernel module isn't loaded because it isn't signed). How can I allow un-signed module loading on such a system?
[10:32] <ralle> one people speech german
[10:32] <hateball> !de | ralle
[10:33] <ralle> ok
[10:33] <delta_> hi
[10:38] <burn129> Food
[10:40] <curmet> hello I've installed mysql on ubuntu machine. But can't access it via windows machine. it says "lost connection to mysql server at reading initial communication packet ,system error:2
[10:40] <curmet> I ve set the root user to be accessed from %
[10:40] <curmet> Flushed priviles
[10:40] <curmet> And disabled the firewall.
[10:40] <curmet> What else? thanks before
[10:46] <`ph8> Hi all, i've had some nvidia problems on 16.04 which i've solved by using the ppa:graphics-drivers and nvidia-364. On both nouveau (before trying any nvidia drivers) and nvidia though whenever i plug in my second screen the laptop screen starts appearing/disappearing (crashing), the second screen becomes active but then eventually dies - then the whole display goes black (i guess crash limit exceeded)
[10:46] <`ph8> does anyone know anything about debugging a second monitor problem like this? Laptop is a brand new Dell XPS
[10:46] <`ph8> nvidia GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M]
[10:46] <somsip> curmet: /etc/mysql/my.cnf and change bind-address to <IP_ADDRESS> (or something slightly safer)
[10:47] <somsip> curmet: probably <IP_ADDRESS> by default
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: have you got nvidia-prime installed?
[10:48] <`ph8> yes
[10:48] <`ph8> i've not done anything with it though
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: the drivers ubuntu suggested didnt work well?
[10:49] <`ph8> nouveau (the default display driver after install) worked for one screen but had the same problem on two
[10:49] <dannymichel> I need help with creating a shortcut, if anyone would be so kind. Any help would be greatly appreciated http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322463&p=13479337
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: can you recall wich driver versions showed up your additional drivers list?
[10:50] <`ph8> i have nvidia-364 and prime 0.8.2
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: did you try an -updates driver also?
[10:50] <`ph8> i found a big upvoted askubuntu answer about installing nvidia-364 on 16.04 to fix woes
[10:50] <`ph8> it seems like a good steer, although TBH disabling secure boot is what finally made it work
[10:50] <`ph8> i just don't know how to debug this second screen issue :/
[10:51] <dannymichel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/764258/start-and-stop-virtualbox-applications-and-save-state
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: can you try an xrandr --auto ?
[10:51] <`ph8> it ran, no output
[10:51] <`ph8> i don't have the second screen plugged in atm though
[10:51] <`ph8> because that crashes everything
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> right
[10:51] <aredpanda`w> Is there a way to allow unsigned module loading on a UEFI Secure Boot setup?
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: might be interesting to tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your external one
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | aredpanda`w can this help?
[10:53] <`ph8> of course that crashes the screen so i wouldn't see the output :)
[10:53] <`ph8> tough one that
[10:53] <lundmar> TJ-: I've written the guy. I've asked him to bump up the priority so that someone af cannonical hopefully notices it. It is currently not in progress.
[10:54] <curmet> somsip: so in /etc/mysql/my.cnf , I just have to add this line
[10:54] <curmet> bind-address = <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:54] <curmet> ?
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: does it crash on nouveau also?
[10:56] <aredpanda`w> lotuspsychje, thanks! now to wait for the link to stop throwing internal server errors.
[10:57] <`ph8> yes lotuspsychje
[10:57] <`ph8> weird right
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: you have performance mode enabled in nvidia-settings?
[10:58] <`ph8> yes
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: can you tell me wich drivers all show in your list please?
[10:58] <`ph8> nouveua, nvidia 361.42, 364.19 and 358.16
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: and all the updates ones too right?
[10:59] <`ph8> no i have no updates ones
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[10:59] <`ph8> i'm guessing because i'm on this graphics-drivers PPA
[10:59] <`ph8> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: did you upgrade xenial or clean install?
[11:00] <`ph8> admittedly even that repo says it recommends 352, but the askubuntu i saw recommended 364 to get around the xenial/nvidia issues
[11:00] <`ph8> clean install
[11:00] <pngl> Hi! Looking for help troubleshooting my SSH connection. Connection times out often, input lag is crazy... but pinging the machine gives me 16ms, and I have a good connection locally. What could be happening?
[11:00] <curmet> somsip: edited the /etc/mysql/my.cnf, and add this line "bind-address=<IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: yeah we had users with optimus cards have success on 352-updates..not sure why it doesnt show by default
[11:01] <curmet> but returns error when trying to restart the service " Found option without preceding group in config file"
[11:01] <curmet> why so
[11:01] <`ph8> oh right i managed to plug in the monitor, and unplug before the crash limit exceeded
[11:01] <`ph8> so i have some syslog now :D
[11:01] <`ph8> is my card an optimus card? :-o
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: yes, as you got nvidia-prime installed its intel/nvidia hybrid
[11:02] <`ph8> i see
[11:02] <`ph8> ish :p
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: performance mode means active the nvidia one
[11:02] <`ph8> so i have some kind of stack trace in the log
[11:02] <`ph8> just trying to find the actual bit that's the error
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: ill be back in a bit for dinner, feel free to re-ask your issue togheter with the logs
[11:03] <`ph8> does "WARNING: CPU: 2 PID: 1446 at /build/linux-Ay7j_C/linux-4.4.0/ubuntu/i915/intel_pm.c:3572 skl_update_other_pipe_wm+0x16c/0x180 [i915_bpo]()" mean anything to you?
[11:03] <`ph8> thanks
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: pm me the whole log for later
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[11:05] <curmet> somsip:edited the /etc/mysql/my.cnf, and add this line before bind-address , [mysqld]
[11:05] <curmet> somsip: it works now , thanks :D
[11:15] <tim54> hi, I'm using Xubuntu 16.04 (32 bit) and every time I start thunar again all the elements I added to the side pane are gone -- is this a bug. If not how can I permanently add elements to the side pane?
[11:18] <DJones> tim54: I don't use xubuntu, so can't help, but might also be worth you asking in #xubuntu to see if the people who use it there have any idea
[11:18] <Ccdc_DuckZ> hello, what packages do I need to write and run ruby kde plasmoids in ubuntu? I've installed korundum4 as explained here https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma4/Ruby/GettingStarted but I still can't run the sample script from that page
[11:18] <Ccdc_DuckZ> I get a window with a message "Could not create a ruby-script Script Engine for the DeskLight widget"
[11:24] <dannymichel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322463 The only problem i see with the above is the VM shutting down and/or trying to restart if i forget i had photoshop open and i made another .sh for Illustrator the same way. Closing either app would shut the VM down and they'd both have commands to start the VM as well
[12:01] <DevAntoine> I've installed a package having lot of dependencies. I want to remove this package but keep some dependencies. Is it possible?
[12:06] <devXZ> does anyone know how to use testdisk?
[12:07] <scam> !testdisk
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> devXZ: what do you liek to do?
[12:07] <lundmar> TJ-: fyi - got an answer back from Marco and he said they've been looking at it in these days.
[12:07] <devXZ> lotuspsychje, I think I broke my mac partition using testdisk
[12:07] <lundmar> TJ-: so someting is happening :)
[12:09] <devXZ> lotuspsychje, are you here?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> devXZ: explain what you did exactly?
[12:10] <devXZ> I went into testdisk , selected my primarly partition and pressed image creation
[12:10] <devXZ> lotuspsychje, after that it went a few points before stating that there was no disk space
[12:10] <devXZ> quite quickly
[12:11] <devXZ> after that I went to Type
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> devXZ: why did you use testdisk on the partition for? was it working before?
[12:11] <devXZ> yes but I couldnt write from it from linux , fsck was giving me a b tree node error
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> devXZ: are you dualbooting with that partition?
[12:12] <devXZ> I am on a live distro lotuspsychje
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> devXZ: but what are you trying to do?
[12:13] <devXZ> well now I just want my partition back
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> devXZ: test the partition? get data back?
[12:14] <azizLIGHT> where is the log file stored for application has closed unexpectedly errors
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> devXZ: perhaps try to recover data first with photorec
[12:15] <devXZx> lotuspsychje, are you saying that the change in testdisk was permanent?
[12:16] <azizLIGHT> i need to copy paste the log file to the dev, and icnat do this in the gui error dialog box
[12:16] <azizLIGHT> so where is the actual log file stored so i can do that?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> devXZx: not sure exactly, but why take the risk..i would backup first
[12:17] <devXZx> lotuspsychje, well all the files can be seen inside testdisk
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: any more luck yet?
[12:18] <`ph8> not yet lotuspsychje :(
[12:18] <`ph8> sorry dropped offline for a minute there while i rebooted
[12:18] <devXZx> lotuspsychje, at least I think they can
[12:18] <`ph8> any ideas from those logs?
[12:18] <`ph8> looked a bit obscure ot me
[12:18] <`ph8> * to me
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: can you pastebin again the full log?
[12:18] <`ph8> argh i've lost the link, i pm'ed it to you - is it gone?
[12:18] <`ph8> i can look in syslog
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> ah holdon
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> `ph8: no didnt get it
[12:19] <devXZx> lotuspsychje, wait the files I see are of the distro,,, nvm
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> devXZx: perhaps take out the hd, install ubuntu on another hd, and scan the whole mac partition with photorec to recover data? then format again with gparted
[12:22] <devXZx> lotuspsychje, I think I know the issue
[12:22] <Solarbaby> don't forget to mount the drive as read only
[12:22] <devXZx> lotuspsychje, I think I may have changed the disk type
[12:22] <Solarbaby> that way you don't write over more data before you can restore it
[12:24] <devXZx> is it possible that this is the issue?
[12:25] <devXZx> or maybe something to do with the superblock?
[12:26] <cheesecakes> hello! I hava an ubuntu server that I log into from ubuntu, I use a ssh-key. but I need to use the "ssh -i <serveradress>" arguement everytime, how can I log inn with only ssh <serveraddress>" ?
[12:26] <cheesecakes> (rsa key)
[12:27] <`ph8> got my pm lotuspsychje?
[12:28] <devXZx> I get the following error when trying to mount the disk
[12:28] <devXZx> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
[12:29] <devXZx> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
[12:29] <devXZx> /dev/sda2,
[12:29] <miklcct> Your fs is corrupted
[12:29] <devXZx> miklcct, how bad is that?
[12:29] <miklcct> It means possible data loss
[12:29] <miklcct> first check if the partition table is correct
[12:30] <devXZx> It has three partitions
[12:30] <devXZx> recover, efi and main
[12:30] <miklcct> Is it a removable device?
[12:31] <chrs_> is there an ubuntu channel for just the ubuntu userland system? like microsoft put in the "developer channel" of windows 10
[12:31] <chrs_> ?
[12:31] <devXZx> no , my main built in drive
[12:31] <miklcct> Are you now booting off from a removable media?
[12:31] <devXZx> from a live cd, yes
[12:32] <miklcct> It seems that you are using efi, right?
[12:32] <devXZx> to boot yes,, the primary partition should be hfs
[12:33] <devXZx> hfs+
[12:33] <miklcct> I have no experience in efi, sorry
[12:37] <chrs_> anyone run the ubuntu layer in windows 10 at all?
[12:37] <mundi> Hi there. I just installed Ubuntu, but I have a couple of questions: Why is there so much crap already installed (libreoffice, amazon?) and important stuff like git not? And why it seems it isn't possible to install stuff like chrome? I get an error
[12:37] <nomic> crap?
[12:37] <nomic> its not crap
[12:38] <chrs_> mundi: just remove what you dont want and install what you like
[12:38] <nomic> its what people require, you may not require -- everything you require is available through repositories
[12:38] <mundi> well, I don't need it and I don't like bloated installations
[12:38] <nomic> its not bloated
[12:38] <nomic> unbelievable
[12:39] <mundi> well, but why is there the amazon stuff? its just a cash grab from canonical
[12:39] <hateball> zzz
[12:39] <nomic> anything you see, you can un-install .. there are other distributions say, xubuntu
[12:39] <mundi> well, nonetheless
[12:39] <nomic> this is off topic
[12:39] <mundi> why can't i install chrome?
[12:39] <nomic> you can install chrome
[12:39] <mundi> i downloaded the .deb package and clicked on install, but it just doesnt install
[12:40] <mundi> it says I have to remove it but even this is not possible
[12:40] <mundi> the odd thing is that I'm not even asked for my sudo pw
[12:40] <nomic> you obviously know something about it
[12:40] <nomic> you can ask on ubuntu forums, also
[12:40] <hateball> mundi: Open a terminal, cd to where you downloaded it, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[12:40] <mundi> yeah, but I prefer IRC over a forum, more quick and you dont have to register
[12:41] <k1l_> mundi: i just installes chrome yesterday again. so what is your exact issue?
[12:41] <nomic> chrome is available through synaptic, the package manager - also
[12:41] <nomic> there are no issues installing chrome
[12:41] <k1l_> mundi: and for your pointless rants better use your own blog. this is a technical support channel.
[12:41] <mundi> k1l_: well, i download it, click install it, and nothing happens, but I can click the install button all over again
[12:42] <k1l_> that is an issue with the gnome software center.
[12:42] <mundi> it's listed as extension under installed and it says that I ahve to remove it to install it again, but this also fails
[12:42] <k1l_> mundi: either you install gdebi and use that or you use the terminal with "sudo dpkg -i chrome-package.deb
[12:42] <Solarbaby> gdebi is the easiest way
[12:43] <the_ghost> mundi, try this in terminal - sudo apt-get -f install
[12:43] <de-facto> mundi you might be interessted in using gdebi for double click installing debs
[12:43] <mundi> k1l_: just got an error with the terminal dpkg, it says dependencyproblems
[12:43] <k1l_> !paste | mundi
[12:44] <k1l_> mundi: put all the output there, link it here
[12:44] <Solarbaby> mundi: try downloading the deb and install via command line with gdebi
[12:44] <Solarbaby> so sudo apt-get install gdebi
[12:44] <Solarbaby> then sudo gdebi chrome.deb
[12:45] <zetheroo> mundi: 16.04?
[12:45] <mundi> yes, 16.04 lts+
[12:45] <zetheroo> mundi: I had to install Chrome with gdebi
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> !bug > `ph8
[12:46] <mundi> heres the console paste: http://pastebin.com/NzSq1Hi7
[12:46] <zetheroo> mundi: 1. Install gdebi via Ubuntu Software Centre 2. Right-click on chrome.deb file and open/install with gdebi - Done
[12:46] <MoPac> Hi - I have a couple of questions about reporting bugs in 16.04. (1) Touchscreen multitouch has stopped working since upgrade from 15.10. I've filed a bug against Unity (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1576017). But because pinch no longer works in Chrome+Google Maps, I guess there could be an underlying issue. mtdev-test appears to correctly show number of fingers touching
[12:47] <mundi> yeah, but why isn't the normal way supported?
[12:47] <mundi> looks to me like a bug
[12:47] <k1l_> mundi: sudo apt install libappindicator1
[12:47] <zetheroo> mundi: well you are installing a 3rd party app ... ;)
[12:47] <MoPac> (Re: multitouch) So I'm not sure if there are other packages I should mark as affected or other testing I should do up front?
[12:47] <k1l_> mundi: because the gnome software center got a bug. and a bugfix is on its way.
[12:48] <zetheroo> mundi: and what k1l said ^
[12:48] <k1l_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206   mundi
[12:50] <de-facto> mundi apart from your installation problems with chrome, i can recommend chromium-browser with pepperflashplugin-nonfree its in the repos and is very stable
[12:51] <mundi> yeah, readt of it, but I prefer to use one browser in windows and ubuntu
[12:51] <mundi> btw, is there some kind of developer version of ubuntu?
[12:51] <mundi> where you have some stuff like git already installed?
[12:52] <hateball> They behave the same way, and if you're logged in with your google account everything syncs across
[12:52] <mipo> hi
[12:52] <Solarbaby> mundi: do you know how easy it is to install things like git?
[12:52] <de-facto> mundi chromium is almost the same as chrome (it uses google chrome open source base)
: deosn't work, can't get gedbi properly installed as well
[12:52] <mundi> de-facto: i know
[12:52] <akik> mundi: a developer version is accomplished with just a couple of apt commands
[12:53] <mundi> Solarbaby: yes, but i'd prefer to have git installed over libreoffice
[12:53] <zetheroo> mundi: I did it just yesterday
[12:53] <mipo> I've formated my 1TB hdd , and it takes much time and didn't finished yet. is it possible to cancel it?
[12:53] <mundi> well, the chrome installation keeps to block the installation
[12:53] <zetheroo> mundi: maybe you have a bad install or broken packages?
[12:53] <Solarbaby> mundi: you might want to roll your own ubuntu distro
[12:53] <mundi> is there a way to terminate it?
[12:53] <zetheroo> mundi: reboot your system and try to install gdebi
[12:54] <mundi> Solarbaby: hehe, maybe^^ ;) no, it's just a serious question, before I install and uninstall everything, maybe theres something I haven't seen
[12:54] <mundi> zetheroo: ok, if there isn't any other way, then I'll reboot
[12:54] <k1l_> mundi: what about the commands i gave you. did you run them? what was the output?
[12:55] <Solarbaby> mundi: Debian is also excellent
[12:55] <zetheroo> mundi: it's the simplest
[12:55] <k1l_> Solarbaby: ....
[12:55] <mundi> Solarbaby: yeah, I'm still undecided between debian and ubuntu, but it seems debian takes up a lot of storage, I've readt something like 30gig which is way to much
[12:56] <k1l_> mundi: is there some process running right now?
[12:56] <mundi> need it for stuff like development in C, because thats a pain on window
[12:56] <mundi> yeah, the chrome installation
[12:56] <mundi> and gdebi install^
[12:56] <k1l_> mundi: is it running?
[12:56] <k1l_> mundi: you can only run one package install at a time.
[12:56] <mundi> running, but no progress
[12:56] <mundi> yeah, seems so
[12:56] <mundi> and chrome is stucked
[12:56] <Sc0tty-> how can I tell what is causing a process to be busy?
[12:57] <mundi> don't know how to kill the install
[12:57] <zetheroo> mundi: just reboot - too hard to tell at this point what's gone wrong
[12:57] <mundi> ok, will reboot
[12:57] <zetheroo> ;)
[12:58] <zetheroo> Does Canonical still have a cloud service?
[12:59] <zetheroo> I recall Ubuntu One, but I think that was closed down .. or!?
[12:59] <k1l_> ubuntu one file storage was closed down
[12:59] <hateball> Sc0tty-: well you can attach gdb, if that's of any help
[12:59] <zetheroo> mundi: before doing anything just open Ubuntu Software Center and install gdebi
[13:00] <zetheroo> k1l_: ok. I was hoping Canonical would pull something off like Open365
[13:00] <mundi> zetheroo: yeah, did that, still stuck since then
[13:00] <k1l_> mundi: what does stuck mean?
[13:01] <zetheroo> "stuck"?
[13:01] <k1l_> mundi: i would prefere to not use gui at all now. since you seem to have a broken state and gui is hard to explain.
[13:01] <zetheroo> k1l_: maybe a fresh install is in order for mundi
[13:01]  * k1l_ doesnt know why everyone in here just jumps on the gui ways instead of using apt and dpkg that has clear output and exit states
[13:01] <zetheroo> seems like something got farked along the way
[13:01] <k1l_> zetheroo: no no no no no
[13:02] <zetheroo> :D
[13:02] <k1l_> just using a program with detailed output would help
[13:02] <tim54> Does it make sense to use hardend linux-kernels like grsecurity on desktop pc or is it not worth to ?
[13:02] <mipo> there is no way to cancel HDD format process that make no problem for that HDD?
[13:02] <zetheroo> k1l_: the reason I go for the GUI first is because that is the way it's supposed to work out of the box
[13:02] <tim54> bother
[13:02] <mundi> yeah, the gui sucks since it doesnt give you any information on whats the problem
[13:02] <zetheroo> k1l_: and when that truly is not cutting it the terminal is of course used
[13:03] <mundi> how difficult is it to erease a dual boot ubuntu and install debian instead?
[13:03] <mundi> seems like debian is a bit more dev-friendly
[13:03] <k1l_> mundi: lets fix that issue first
[13:03] <k1l_> m(
[13:04] <zetheroo> mundi: Can you close Software Center and end it's process?
[13:04] <k1l_> mundi: funny thing is, i gave you the terminal "dev" commands. but you choose the gui....
: yeah, I know...
[13:05] <k1l_> mundi: so, is the process still running now? what happens?
[13:05] <mundi> still, I think I'm switching to debian, seems a bit more consistent than using bash and a software center
[13:05] <zetheroo> k1l_: sorry, I kinda jumped in there. I was curious to see if it was really the gui which was not working or just something hanging midjob
[13:05] <k1l_> keep in mind: we dont know what you do and we dont see what you see
[13:06] <hateball> I'm pretty convinced it's just pure trolling at this point
[13:06] <mundi> k1l_: yeah, the installation of the package installer is still running but no progress
[13:06] <mundi> k1l_ yeah, I know, but I don't see much either ;)
[13:06] <zetheroo> so close it and end the process
[13:06] <lorenzo52> hello
[13:06] <lorenzo52> cioa
[13:06] <lorenzo52> ciao
[13:07] <k1l_> hi
[13:07] <lorenzo52> hello
[13:07] <miklcct> hi
[13:07] <lorenzo52> hi
[13:08] <lorenzo52> hi
[13:08] <mundi> zetheroo: i don't know how to kill  a process in linux except via the shell
[13:08] <mundi> but even that i have to look up
[13:09] <k1l_> mundi: "ps ax | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:09] <k1l_> show the output url here
[13:09] <zetheroo> mundi: System Monitor
[13:10] <zetheroo> look for it in the list of processes, select it and click End Process
[13:10] <zetheroo> If it doesn't end, right-click the process and Kill
[13:11] <dusf__> ubuntu 15.10 hangs on the purple screen after selecting it from the grub menu. i have tried shift+f3 but nothing happens, and pressing e at the grub menu where i changed gfxmode $linuxgfxmode to gfxmode nomodeset but this made no difference. when i try to boot into ubuntu advanced options >> recovery >> it still hangs on the purple screen. i have a programming exam in the morning, and i would really appreci
[13:11] <dusf__> ate if someone could help me out.
[13:11] <mundi> zetheroo: yeah, thanks for your effort, but I'll switch to debian. The ubuntu servers are nice, but the GUI stuff on the desktop version is just confusing as it doesn't tell you anything. There are also a couple of bugs, like my audio interface doesn't get loaded on startup, you have to plug it out and in again i order to get recognized
[13:11] <zetheroo> mundi: is this the first time you're using Ubuntu?
[13:11] <zetheroo> mundi: I am pretty sure you have a botched install :P
[13:11] <k1l_> ok. gl with the same issues on debian. bye
[13:12] <trevor_s> anyone know the best way to do RAID 5 on ubuntu 14 server?
[13:12] <aredpanda`w> How do I allow unsigned kernel module loading in ubuntu?
[13:12] <trevor_s> using live CD a good option?
[13:12] <trevor_s> having trouble finding a good tutorial using live cd
[13:12] <mundi> zetheroo: nah, I first used the live-cd in 2007 or so? and I have a ubuntu VPS
[13:12] <zetheroo> mundi: and what makes you think that you won't have hardware issues on Debian? Debian is good, but for PC hardware I have found Ubuntu to be 9 times out of 10 better.
[13:13] <tim54> because of all the firmware blobs...
[13:13] <k1l_> zetheroo: let him go. that talk is offtopic now. he wants debian since the supporters in here spoiled it with jumping on broken gui
[13:13] <zetheroo> mundi: 2007? Wow. I think you should give Ubuntu a fair shot then. It's come a loooong way since then. ;)
[13:14] <hateball> dusf__: Can you try booting an older kernel from the grub menu?
[13:14] <dannymichel> Any way to get rid of these popup notifications without turning it off per app? I just want to get rid of the opup. Maybe a kind of growl? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KwlJaDT4/popup.png
[13:14] <dusf__> hateball: just about to update, recovery mode boots to (initramfs) prompt, does that help?
[13:14] <dusf__> also, thank you for the prompt response.
[13:14] <zetheroo> mundi: give the terminal a try with help from k1l_ - it's fun and you might learn a thing or two ;)
[13:15] <k1l_> dannymichel: that is per app. see the settings from that app you use there
[13:15] <hateball> dusf__: Well that's much help no. Try rebooting and picking an older kernel in the grub menu first.
[13:16] <dusf__> hateball: just trying to boot into 4.2.0-30, i hear my hard drive churn then nothing, the screen displays 'loading linux 4.2.0-30-generic... loading initial ramdisk ...
[13:16] <dusf__> nothing more, it looks frozen, unless this should take time?
[13:16] <aredpanda`w> Better, how do I sign a kernel module to make it loadable on a secure boot enabled installation ?
[13:17] <hateball> dusf__: Did you have an unclean shutdown or something? I would liveboot and make sure your drive is OK. Check it using smartmontools. And if it looks alright, check the filesystem(s) with fsck
[13:18] <TJ-> !info mokutil | aredpanda`w
[13:20] <dusf__> hateball: i have noticed in ubuntu 15.10 it often freezes during shutdown and reboot, so sometime i have to manually hold the powet button in for a few seconds. i will boot to live and try what you recommended, is there any specific smartmontools or fsck options/commands you suggest?
[13:21] <de-facto> mundi you probably will find anything from debian in ubuntu plus even some more (and more recent versions). There are gui ways (like synaptic, gdebi, gnome-system-monitor and such) as well as cli ways (like dpkg, apt, apt-get, aptitude, top, kill and so on)
[13:24] <hateball> dusf__: smartctl -a /dev/sdX should show any obvious errors
[13:24] <dusf__> hateball: i did a sudo apt-get install smartmontools, it asked me something about email settings, and now when i try to run it from command prompt it is not found
[13:24] <dusf__> trying that now
[13:25] <hateball> !paste | dusf__
[13:25] <tim54> mundi: but for some programs there are also backports and there's also the possibility to use sid or testing instead of stable
[13:25] <hateball> dusf__: things like CRC errors or relocated sectors are bad news
[13:25] <de-facto> dusf__ if you are using ext4 you can "sudo touch /forcefsck " which should trigger an fsck on next reboot
[13:25] <hateball> de-facto: I never got that working with systemd
[13:26] <dusf__> de-facto: i think my install somehow checks every boot normally, but i will try that also
[13:26] <de-facto> hateball oh really? havent done that in a long time
[13:27] <dusf__> i was just checking gparted to see if i could find my ssd... i do not see it
[13:27] <de-facto> dusf__ you also can boot from a livecd (since fsck has to be done offline i.e. non mounted) and check your fs from there
[13:27] <TJ-> aredpanda`w: You might find the linux kernel source-code's scripts/sign-file closer to what you want, but you've still got to embed your own certificate in order to use your own signing key
[13:27] <dusf__> de-facto: thanks, i am in live now
[13:28] <de-facto> dusf__ with gsmartcontrol you can check your disk hardware, with fsck you can check the filesystem on it
[13:29] <dusf__> de-facto: i am jsut trying to work out which partition or disk to run these commands on
[13:29] <dusf__> i cannot see my ssd in gparted, but in the ubuntu launcher, it does show the partitions
[13:29] <lucidguy> Ok weird.  getent passwd is showing me all my ldap account properperly except for the last four created, and these four are on ldap and can login to systems.  What could cause that?
[13:30] <de-facto> dusf__ you can read more about it on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[13:31] <elichai2> how can I debug apt-get? (verbose or something)
[13:31] <elichai2> I get this error: W: Failed to fetch https://deb.nodesource.com/node_6.x/dists/wily/main/source/Sources  server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none
[13:31] <elichai2> although I added the right key through apt-key add
[13:32] <de-facto> elichai2 id recommend to ask also in #node.js about that
[13:33] <elichai2> it's not a node.js problem. I added the right key but still it's refuses to see it or something
[13:33] <TJ-> elichai2: apt is accessing an HTTPS TLS connection that presents a servier certificate to your PC that is signed by a Certificate Authority that your PC does not trust
[13:33] <Guest19212> exit
[13:33] <Guest19212> quit
[13:33] <Guest19212> quit
[13:33] <Guest19212> exit
[13:33] <hateball> Guest19212: try /quit
[13:33] <elichai2> how can I know that this: https://deb.nodesource.com/gpgkey/nodesource.gpg.key is really this ID? 1397BC53640DB551 (that's what the apt searches for)
[13:35] <JRansomed> apt-get gurus!  I'm can't seem to get apt-get ot use a socks proxy.  I've tried: Acquire::socks::proxy "socks://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/"; but am seeing apt-get ignore this in wireshark.
[13:36] <JRansomed> apt-config dump shows the setting.
[13:36] <the_ghost> JRamsomed, have you tried tsocks?
[13:37] <TJ-> elichai2: use "openssl s_client -verify 5  -connect deb.nodesource.com:443" to debug it
[13:37] <elichai2> just a sec i'm reconnecting
[13:38] <de-facto> elichai2 maybe with "gpg --list-packets <downloadedkeyfile>"
[13:38] <JRansomed> I haven't.  I had hoped apt-get could do it with a setting.  When on my works VPN I can't access our mirror.
[13:38] <TJ-> de-facto: the error is with the TLS certificate, not the gpg signing
[13:39] <de-facto> ok
[13:39] <elichai2_> ok, so I connected through a VPN because my ISP messes up with some SSL Ceetificates
[13:39] <elichai2_> now I get only this error: W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB55
[13:39] <elichai2_> * 1397BC53640DB551
[13:40] <the_ghost> JRansomed: It seems that the syntax should be Acquire::http::proxy "socks://user:pass@host:port/"; inserted in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[13:40] <TJ-> elichai2_: OK, solved the TLS, good. so now you need to do "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1397BC53640DB551"
[13:41] <JRansomed> the_ghost: Ah, let me try that. Its crazy to have to go through this.  Our mirror is an official mirror, but our security guys are unwilling to allow access back to our own mirror.  I can get to any other just fine.  Sigh.  Thanks for the heads up.  I'll try that and see if it works!  :-)
[13:42] <elichai2_> TJ, whos key is this?
[13:42] <akik> am i correct to say that upstart lives on through unity?
[13:43] <TJ-> elichai2_: presumably the key that signed the package files on the server. You can check with http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/ search for "0x1397BC53640DB551"
[13:43] <elichai2_> ohh, it google's
[13:43] <elichai2_> probably because of my google chrome repo
[13:44] <the_ghost> JRansomed: I just read that apt actually only supports http proxies for example - Acquire::http::proxy "http://localhost:8080" so tsocks may be your only option.
[13:44] <elichai2_> thank you :)
[13:45] <usr13> akik: no
[13:45] <elichai2_> in another context :) when do you think it will be safe to upgrade to 16.10?
[13:45] <elichai2_> (i'm on 15.04)
[13:45] <nickabbey> morning all.  Looking for a good solution for re-enabling and re-keying .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d post xenial upgrade. I'm using sed inline to uncomment the lines, but they keys still need to be added back. and in some cases, after I do so, apt-get update tells me that they are too weak. examples are google's chrome and talkplugin, as well as atlassian's hipchat.
[13:45] <dusf__> hateball: de-facto: fsck found no errors on my home partition sdc3, but it did find errors on root partitions sdc4: paste.ubuntu.com/16095067/
[13:45] <TJ-> elichai2_: 16.10 is only just starting in development; do you mean 16.04 ?