[04:13] <bosco> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext'
[04:13] <amphi> bosco: ext3
[04:13] <rockzman> amphi, sure, gimme a min
[04:14] <DBO> amphi, that errored out actually...  I meant to say ext2
[04:14] <bosco> amphi, look at the long message i posted that should have gone in past bin and that is what comes up when i EXT3
[04:14] <hasan> hey guys, does anyone know any program that lets us share files...like music or videos? i want to download some MP3s....
[04:14] <Orborde> tritium: I've done that. Is there a nice guide somewhere that walks me through the vagaries of checkinstall?
[04:15] <jodanlime> hasan, just open synaptic and search for p2p
[04:15] <tritium> !checkinstall
[04:15] <ubotu> checkinstall is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:15] <amphi> bosco: that's not your swap partition, is it? ;)
[04:15] <bluezy> Greetings, I have a question, when I try to do apt-get install blblabla it tells me E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:15] <bluezy> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[04:15] <bluezy>   What can I do to fix that?
[04:15] <amphi> rockzman: it may not be overly useful, but worth a try
[04:15] <nickpresta> Use: sudo apt-get install package_name
[04:15] <DBO> bosco, "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda2" im an idiot
[04:15] <_paola> ayuda?
[04:15] <_paola> ayudaaaa
[04:15] <rockzman> amphi, thanks im going to dl it
[04:15] <tritium> !es
[04:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:15] <amphi> bluezy: you have some other package manager open?
[04:16] <jodanlime> anybody know of a way to change the audio driver in dapper flight 6?
[04:16] <bosco> DBO, allright it just went to the next line does that mean it is mounted
[04:16] <amphi> bosco: w00t
[04:16] <DBO> bosco, yeah, ls /mnt/sda2
[04:16] <optish> are there any linux tools that let you convert a logical ext3 partition to primary?
[04:16] <rockzman> amphi, how do i unpack deb?
[04:16] <tritium> rockzman: see dpkg manpage
[04:16] <DBO> bosco, I meant to tell you sda1 from the start, but switched to sda2 when I typed it out because that is what I mount all the time on my system
[04:16] <amphi> rockzman: dpkg -i to install - what are you doing?
[04:17] <AnsiC> hello
[04:17] <rockzman> amphi, installing webboard on gnome
[04:17] <bosco> DBO,  allright i am in my hard drive i CD'd TO it
[04:17] <DBO> bosco, ok, what did you want to do now?
[04:17] <amphi> rockzman: oh - you could just use the pastebin ;)
[04:17] <AnsiC> i have a router, is configured, but i cannot have access to my host the use dynamic dns
[04:17] <DBO> bosco, what problem are you trying to fix?
[04:17] <bluezy> Amphi I thought so but I have closed everything and it just is not the case...
[04:17] <AnsiC> the web browser cannot have access to my host
[04:17] <hasan> I typed in p2p on synaptic and nothing came up that was a program like BItttorent or Kazaa
[04:18] <AnsiC> and i have update it now
[04:18] <AnsiC> on www.dyndns.org
[04:18] <amphi> *closed
[04:18] <AnsiC> apache2 is installed
[04:18] <rockzman> amphi, i dont how to
[04:18] <DBO> !tell hasan about frostwire
[04:18] <amphi> !tell rockzman about pastebin
[04:18] <amphi> rockzman: just go to the url
[04:19] <bosco> DBO, now what do i do if it tells me it cant  it gets to MOUNTING ROOT FILE SYSTEM WHEN I BOOT  but then it tells me it cant RUN /BIN/SH
[04:19] <rockzman> k
[04:19] <jodanlime> they closed darwin? closed it down or closed the source?
[04:19] <DBO> bosco, ls /mnt/sda2/bin/sh
[04:19] <amphi> jodanlime: closed the source
[04:19] <jodanlime> damn
[04:19] <amphi> jodanlime: not a great loss IMHO ;)
[04:20] <bosco> DBO, allright it outputed the same thing i typed in
[04:20] <jodanlime> I kinda liked using it, it ran alot like bsd, only slight differences, guess if I want it back I will just download bsd
[04:20] <DBO> bosco, well it exists...
[04:20] <bosco> DBO,  ok what do i do now to fix the prob
[04:20] <Plouj> so, how do I configure avi and wmv files to open in mplayer instead of the "movie player"?
[04:20] <bosco> DBO, now that i am in my actuall hard drive
[04:20] <rockzman> amphi, i did put ma name and the text so i just click on send
[04:21] <DBO> bosco, mv /mnt/sda2/bin/sh /mnt/sda2/bin/sh.breezy
[04:21] <DBO> bosco, cp /bin/sh /mnt/sda2/bin/sh
[04:21] <amphi> jodanlime: why would you want to run bsd as a monolithic task on top of mach?
[04:21] <DBO> bosco, those will probably require sudo in front of them
[04:21] <DBO> amphi, a good question indeed
[04:21] <amphi> rockzman: url?
[04:21] <bosco> DBO, ok i copeid that file now where do i past it to
[04:21] <jodanlime> amphi, I just kinda liked the way it worked, I like linux more, but I use macs alot so it was neet to use the insides without all the extra stuff
[04:21] <Orborde> tritium: Thanks
[04:22] <DBO> bosco, did you put the two commands I gave you into terminal?
[04:22] <tritium> sure, Orborde
[04:22] <bosco> DBO,  ok what is the file that i copy fist things first i need this to work not to be mean
[04:22] <amphi> jodanlime: I've messed with netbsd a bit, and it seems nice; I just don't get darwin at all
[04:22] <DBO> bosco... dont do it from the GUI...
[04:22] <amphi> rockzman: I don't understand (it's late ;)
[04:22] <rockzman> amphi, it is still working ^^
[04:23] <bosco> DBO, i am doing it from a Raw termainal
[04:23] <rockzman> amphi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14240
[04:23] <rockzman> is that wut u mean amphi ?
[04:23] <jodanlime> amphi, if you've ever done unixy stuff in macs its alot easier to switch between, thats the only real thing, and the only reason I use macs is for video and music editing
[04:23] <bosco> DBO, i hate GUI for that stuff i use terminal for 95% of my work
[04:24] <DBO> bosco, run the command "sudo mv /mnt/sda2/bin/sh /mnt/sda2/bin/sh.breezy && sudo cp /bin/sh /mnt/sda2/bin/sh"
[04:24] <hasan> how do i run frostwire after it is installed
[04:24] <jodanlime> does anybody know how to switch from alsa to oss in dapper flight 6?
[04:24] <bosco> DBO all one command
[04:24] <DBO> bosco, yep, just copy and paste it
[04:24] <hasan> also i had trouble doing the dos2unix part of it because my terminal said  "unable to access file"
[04:24] <bosco> DBO, allright it went to the next line so it is fixed now
[04:25] <amphi> rockzman: not very illuminating :(
[04:25] <hasan> ...does anyone know what to type into the terminal to run frost wire? Also i looked in the wiki guide and it said to do a dos2unix on a file and when i typed it in it said "unable to access file"
[04:25] <rockzman> amphi, bad... look i cant run mplayer also do u have an alternative ?
[04:25] <DBO> well I dont know, i really have no clue what your issue seems to be.  Can you post the end of /mnt/sda2/var/log/kern.log to pastebin?
[04:25] <DBO> bosco ^^
[04:25] <amphi> rockzman: what does mplayer do?
[04:25] <rockzman> same error
[04:26] <rockzman> amphi, i tried to run to help you in diagnostic
[04:26] <DBO> amphi, whats his issue? =)
[04:26] <DBO> one and a half brainzzz are better than one
[04:26] <amphi> DBO: xmms (and apparently mplayer) segfaulting; there's a bt of xmms dying at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14240
[04:27] <DBO> rockzman, what video card are you running?
[04:27] <bosco> DBO,  when i try and boot from my hard drive it goes through the normal boot sequence till it gets to MOUNTING ROOT FILE SYSTEM then it goes to a black screen and outputs that it cant EXECUTE /BIN/SH
[04:28] <rockzman> DBO, GForce FX 5200 i installed a nvidia-glx driver ( i dunno why i added this info but there it goes ^^)
[04:28] <amphi> bosco: does bin/sh exist in the mount point?
[04:28] <DBO> amphi, it does yes
[04:29] <nemetz1> is vfat LVM compatible ?
[04:29] <amphi> rockzman: could be the driver; there's openGL reference near the point of death
[04:29] <DBO> rockzman "sudo apt-get reinstall libglu1-mesa"
[04:29] <rockzman> oki bosses X:
[04:29] <bosco> amphi, yes it exist
[04:29] <Rhine> How do i play .m4a in rhythmbox?
[04:30] <DBO> amphi, i think his problem is with mesa, is he running dapper?
[04:30] <eddiestone> Rhine, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[04:30] <soundmaster80> I cannot get linux-restricted-modules-386 to install
[04:30] <DBO> bosco, give a reboot a run for me please =)
[04:30] <rockzman> DBO, nah
[04:30] <amphi> DBO: IIRC he said not, but he also said something about installing 50MB of upgrades ;)
[04:30] <rockzman> amphi, rofl
[04:30] <bosco> DBO, ok it may be 15 min then cuz if it doesnt work then i have to reboot from the live CD and it takes a wile
[04:30] <DBO> rockzman, did you do the reinstall?
[04:31] <DBO> bosco, I know, im really sorry =(
[04:31] <defendguin_> ugggg why is apt broken?   someone needs to upload the new l-r-m package
[04:31] <DBO> bosco, I will wait for you... Ill wait forever...  *floats off into the abyss*
[04:31] <amphi> heheh
[04:31] <rockzman> DBO, acculley i'll search this package in synaptic
[04:31] <tritium> defendguin_: that's a dapper issue, and apt is not broken
[04:31] <rockzman> E: Couldn't find package libglul-mesa
[04:31] <bluezy> is there a way to reset the apt thing?
[04:31] <bosco> DBO, it is ok i thank you for your help with me that is enough in it of it self
[04:32] <amphi> rockzman: 1-mesa not lowercase L -mesa
[04:32] <DBO> bosco, give the reboot a run
[04:32] <bosco> DBO,    *reboots laptop*
[04:32] <Plouj> what native Gnome audio player is closest to amarok in functionality?
[04:32] <defendguin_> tritium: you will have to excuse me i love complaining about things i didnt pay for
[04:32] <defendguin_> ;-P
[04:32] <tritium> defendguin_: :)
[04:32] <rockzman> amphi, k
[04:32] <DBO> Plouj, Listen, just Listen
[04:32] <Plouj> DBO: what?
[04:32] <Rhine> eddiestone, thanks for that link i think it will work fine great link btw
[04:32] <DBO> Plouj, no, thats the name of it
[04:33] <rockzman> amphi, E: Couldn't find package libgluL-mesa
[04:33] <DBO> rockzman, its a 1
[04:33] <DBO> libglu(ONE)-mesa
[04:33] <rockzman> i tried both
[04:33] <rockzman> yea
[04:33] <rockzman> i just paste
[04:33] <defendguin_> tritium: i just get anxioux about kernel releases these days because they tent to fix some hardware problems i have
[04:33] <Plouj> DBO: is the package called "listen"?
[04:34] <defendguin_> s/tent/tend
[04:34] <rockzman> libglu1-mesa is already the newest version.
[04:34] <rockzman> D
[04:34] <rockzman> DBO,
[04:34] <DBO> Plouj, i dont think so, you have to add a repo for it, google search listen gnome
[04:34] <DBO> rockzman, "sudo apt-get reinstall libglu1-mesa"
[04:34] <amphi> rockzman: pasting wouldn't switch a '1' to an 'l' ;)
[04:34] <tritium> defendguin_: ah, ok
[04:35] <rockzman> :P i did reinstall now
[04:35] <amphi> rockzman: or apt-get install --reinstall libglu1-mesa
[04:35] <rockzman> amphi, i should try running now?
[04:36] <DBO> amphi, yeah, teach me not to check syntax
[04:36] <amphi> rockzman: sure
[04:36] <rockzman> amphi, same error
[04:36] <rockzman> amphi,  should i try to remove driver?
[04:36] <DBO> rockzman, switch your driver to nv temporarly
[04:36] <bosco> DBO, it worked i am on my actuall ubuntu now thank you
[04:37] <rockzman> DBO, how?
[04:37] <Orborde> Do I need to pass anything to checkinstall to make it set dependencies on the new package, or is that simply impossible at the level that checkinstall works (i.e. raw .deb files)?
[04:37] <amphi> bosco: cool; what did you do, apart from mount your hd / ?
[04:37] <DBO> rockzman, amphi will tell you how =)
[04:37] <DBO> amphi, we switched the /bin/sh with a known good one from CD
[04:37] <rockzman> DBO,  :)
[04:37] <amphi> rockzman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:37] <rockzman> amphi, ok
[04:37] <amphi> DBO: uhuh
[04:38] <DBO> amphi, thats all
[04:38] <bosco> amphi, i copied the file /bin/sh cuz that was the one that said that couldnt execute so i put it back into my hard drive and overwrote the other one
[04:38] <DBO> bosco, actually you have a copy of the bad one at /bin/sh.breezy, could you please email that to me?
[04:38] <alexkid> quit
[04:39] <protocol1> !dapper
[04:39] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[04:39] <DBO> !?
[04:39] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DBO
[04:39] <DBO> oops
[04:39] <bosco> DBO, just out of curuiosity why do you want thta one and if you do i will give it to you just send me your email in a private message
[04:39] <rockzman> amphi, xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[04:39] <rockzman>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200605182339
[04:39] <rockzman> any matter?
[04:40] <DBO> bosco, its a quirk, I want to see whats wrong with it...
[04:40] <CaptainMorgan> dudes and dudets.. SGD isn't so super afterall.. it failed
[04:40] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get grub back!?
[04:40] <DBO> rockzman, let it overwrite it
[04:40] <bosco> DBO, ok so send me your email in a private message
[04:40] <Orborde> Can anyone explain why this is failing? http://pastebin.com/725881
[04:40] <DBO> bosco I did...
[04:40] <fogos> i someome have a inspiron 6400
[04:40] <fogos> ?
[04:40] <rockzman> DBO, it just did
[04:41] <bosco> DBO, i did not get your private message
[04:41] <rockzman> amphi,  now what
[04:41] <DBO> wait, forgot to identify
[04:41] <amphi> rockzman: set the driver to nv
[04:41] <rockzman> amphi, i did
[04:42] <amphi> rockzman: restart X
[04:42] <rockzman> l
[04:42] <rockzman> k
[04:42] <tritium> rockzman: are you dealing with a dapper issue?  If so, please do so in #ubuntu+1
[04:42] <DBO> tritium, not dapper
[04:42] <tritium> okay
[04:42] <DBO> why does everyone assume its dapper???
[04:42] <tritium> Sounds like the missing -23 l-r-m problem
[04:43] <wims> Orborde,  maybe you need to be root when you make install
[04:43] <DBO> tritium, naw, hes getting GL related errors with his xserver
[04:43] <tritium> DBO: ok
[04:44] <Orborde> wims: You're right. My bad.  We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:48] <tritium> PabloxX: watch your language!
[04:48] <PabloxX> thankz
[04:48] <arrick> !language
[04:49] <amphi> wb, rockzman ;)
[04:49] <Nick___> lol
[04:49] <DBO> did something go wrong rockzman?
[04:49] <rockzman> amphi, LOL i would like to be back
[04:49] <amphi> rockzman: well, you are, somewhat
[04:49] <rockzman> DBO, nah i just mistyped and i missetup but im fine now
[04:49] <DBO> rockzman, does xmms work now?
[04:50] <rockzman> DBO, nah \:
[04:50] <amphi> rockzman: nor mplayer?
[04:50] <DBO> rockzman, do you mind if I cry?
[04:50] <rockzman> amphi,  lets check mplayer
[04:50] <rockzman> DBO, ok man u want a paper ? i mean come here not in front of everyone x=
[04:51] <rockzman> amphi, GUESS WHAT !?
[04:51] <rockzman> amphi, mplayer does not =D
[04:51] <rockzman> lol
[04:51] <blackgecko> anyone knows why my SwapTotal = 0 kb ????
[04:51] <blackgecko> i have a 2Gb swap on hda7 ? why isnt showed up ??
[04:51] <rockzman> DBO, amphi btw if i do upgrade my system will it work or what? i mean for dapper
[04:52] <amphi> rockzman: you can probably expect more b0rkage with dapper
[04:52] <DBO> rockzman, most likely it will fix it yes...
[04:52] <amphi> oh, well ;)
[04:52] <DBO> rockzman, but you will bork other things
[04:52] <nickrud> blackgecko, do you have that swap partition pointed to in yor /etc/fstab?
[04:52] <amphi> rockzman: mplayer can play music too ;)
[04:53] <rockzman> amphi, it does not work tho x=
[04:53] <defendguin_> tritium: you know if anyone is working on that problem with dapper and l-r-m?
[04:53] <blackgecko> nop,
[04:53] <rockzman> amphi, so i'll upgrade to dont have this troubles am i doin right?
[04:53] <amphi> rockzman: oh, I thought you said it worked above
[04:53] <rockzman> X:
[04:53] <tritium> defendguin_: most certainly
[04:53] <MiKuS> hey guys ^^
[04:53] <rockzman> amphi, well well im brazilian dont blame for ma english :P
[04:53] <amphi> rockzman: it may fix it, it may break other things
[04:53] <blackgecko> nickrud: nop, but neither in another ubuntu machine and it shows the swap ok
[04:53] <CaptainMorgan> arrrrrgghghhgh
[04:53] <nickrud> blackgecko, dev/hdb3       none            swap    sw              0       0 that'smine
[04:54] <CaptainMorgan> follks - can I edit where grub is located ?
[04:54] <amphi> rockzman: I don't, a lot better than my .br - there is #ubuntu-br, BTW
[04:54] <DBO> /boot/grub/menu.lst <--- Captain_Redbeard
[04:54] <CaptainMorgan> nothing is working.. the live cd didn't work, the SGD didn't work..
[04:54] <rockzman> amphi, i prefer ubuntu-foreign :D
[04:54] <DBO> /boot/grub/menu.lst <--- CaptainMorgan
[04:54] <bosco> ok does anyone know how to make a folder write protected to when somone tries to see what is in or tried to CD to that folder they have to enter my root password
[04:54] <CaptainMorgan> l or 1?
[04:54] <blackgecko> nickrud: ive already added and remounted and still doesnt shows up
[04:54] <CaptainMorgan> l
[04:54] <amphi> CaptainMorgan: lowercase L
[04:55] <rockzman> P,G
[04:55] <rockzman> OMG
[04:55] <amphi> CaptainMorgan: you should use a less ambiguous font ;)
[04:55] <rockzman> OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG DBO amphi OMG
[04:55] <rockzman> IT OPENED !
[04:55] <rockzman> WTF
[04:55] <CaptainMorgan> eh?
[04:55] <CaptainMorgan> whatchu mean?
[04:55] <DBO> rockzman, what do you mean it oppened?
[04:55] <amphi>  CaptainMorgan> l or 1?
[04:55] <DBO> rockzman, what did you change?
[04:55] <rockzman> DBO, Xmms :D
[04:55] <CaptainMorgan> ic
[04:55] <rockzman> DBO, I did uninstall nvidia-glx
[04:56] <CaptainMorgan> what's my menu.lst file going to say?
[04:56] <rockzman> DBO, my newbie mind thought "well xmms is a video player also"
[04:56] <DBO> rockzman, O.o
[04:56] <CaptainMorgan> since it's not booting righ tnow..
[04:56] <amphi> rockzman: ah... mplayer happy now?
[04:56] <arrick> bosco, yeah, put it in outside of your home directory
[04:56] <rockzman> amphi, BOTH DID
[04:56] <rockzman> DBO, both did =D
[04:56] <CaptainMorgan> or better, what do I put into or extract from it?
[04:56] <amphi> rockzman: cool, just no 3d accel for you
[04:56] <DBO> rockzman, ok, go ahead and reinstall nvidia from nvidias site using the walkthrough at !nvidia
[04:56] <DBO> !nvidia
[04:56] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:56] <rockzman> amphi, why not if my videocard suppoerts?
[04:57] <DBO> rockzman, use method 2 at that link
[04:57] <burnout39> hey wnyone know how to get screen resolutions?
[04:57] <rockzman> DBO, yes sir
[04:57] <arrick> !fixres
[04:57] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:57] <nickrud> blackgecko. hm. if you'd put the output of sudo fdisk -l     and    cat /etcfstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:57] <MiKuS> http://www.gogglemarks.net/index.php?action=display&tag=irclock
[04:58] <bosco> arrick, it didnt work
[04:58] <arrick> no?
[04:58] <arrick> were you logged in as you?
[04:58] <arrick> or as root
[04:58] <bosco> arrick, i am logged in as me
[04:58] <arrick> ok
[04:59] <arrick> hang tight
[04:59] <CaptainMorgan> oooh.. you can do all sorts of purrdy things with the menu.lst
[04:59] <arrick> !pahow to password protect folders?
[04:59] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[04:59] <CaptainMorgan> !menu.lst
[04:59] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:00] <arrick> how to password protect folders?
[05:00] <amphi> arrick: encrypt them?
[05:00] <CaptainMorgan> :D
[05:00] <bosco> arrick, if you chmod 700 it, only the owner (and root) will be able to cd into it i figured it out
[05:00] <amphi> bosco: figured it out, huh? ;)
[05:00] <nickrud> arrick, arg, amphi stole my answer
[05:00] <bosco> lol
[05:00] <bosco> amphi, i got the answer i was looking for
[05:01] <arrick> ok bosco then you got your answer?
[05:01] <tritium> amphi: don't be stealing answers!  ;)
[05:01] <nickrud> gimme a livecd, only encryption will beat me :)
[05:01] <arrick> THIEF THIEF :^)))
[05:01] <amphi> tritium: ;)
[05:01] <arrick> nickrud, no cheating now
[05:01] <tritium> heh
[05:02] <blackgecko> nickrud:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14241
[05:02] <arrick> night guys
[05:02] <tritium> night arrick
[05:02] <bosco> night guys
[05:02] <bosco> date
[05:02] <amphi> date(1) ?
[05:02] <CaptainMorgan> night gals
[05:03] <arrick> date(2)
[05:03] <bosco> amphi, srry
[05:03] <amphi> bosco: huh?
[05:03] <bosco> amphi, i ment to type that into terminal to find out what time it was srry
[05:03] <amphi> bosco: ah
[05:03] <bosco> ll
[05:03] <bosco> kk
[05:04] <nickrud> blackgecko, I see nothing wrong with that; you should have swap on bootup
[05:05] <KaosX> I got my last Google interview tommorow.
[05:05] <blackgecko> nickrud: yeah but when i do a   >> grep SwapTotal /proc/meminfo  SwapTotal:           0 kB
[05:06] <nnn0> google rule :)
[05:06] <amphi> blackgecko: what happens if you do swapon manually?
[05:06] <MiKuS> google ftw
[05:06] <barefoot_bill> Mit welchem Programm kann ich unter Linux die cpu runtertakten ?
[05:06] <amphi> !de
[05:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:06] <CaptainMorgan> rule of google?
[05:06] <nnn0> don't be evil
[05:07] <barefoot_bill> ok ok
[05:07] <amphi> barefoot_bill: underclocking?
[05:07] <CaptainMorgan> what's vmlinux? that standard.. it's listed in the menu.lst file.. is that necessary?
[05:07] <CaptainMorgan> vmlinuz
[05:07] <barefoot_bill> yes, what programm do I need ?
[05:07] <amphi> barefoot_bill: dunno, I undervolt ;)
[05:07] <ActivitY> wow
[05:07] <nnn0> :)
[05:07] <ActivitY> guys, i want a refund
[05:08] <CaptainMorgan> sorry
[05:08] <nnn0> :D
[05:08] <ActivitY> no one said ubuntu was this addictive
[05:08] <CaptainMorgan> some consider that a positive
[05:08] <DBO> ActivitY, wait till you try Xgl, your ADD wont go away for weeks
[05:08] <Xenguy> ActivitY: it's all in your mind =)
[05:08] <ActivitY> ubuntu rocks my socks
[05:08] <ActivitY> specially being new to linux and all ^^
[05:09] <Xenguy> ubuntu is a fine place to start
[05:09] <rockzman> amphi, i just cant believe yet x=
[05:09] <DBO> ActivitY, no matter how much we love to toot ubuntu's horn, that talk is for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:09] <Jeff1983> is there a way to make a program automatically run when ubuntu starts up
[05:09] <amphi> rockzman: going well?
[05:09] <ActivitY> okie dokie :)
[05:09] <rockzman> DBO, u were right there is somethinga bout nvidia-glx->xmms bug
[05:09] <Xenguy> Jeff1983: Gnome: look for sessions dialogue box
[05:09] <rockzman> amphi, omg i try to fix it for 40 mins and it is now playing, u ask if it is going well =D
[05:10] <rockzman> amphi, perfectly
[05:10] <Jeff1983> xenuguy thanks
[05:10] <blackgecko> amphi: can you give me a hand ??
[05:10] <rockzman> amphi, what BR channel u said?
[05:10] <|Sivik|> anyone here use grasshopper?
[05:10] <amphi> blackgecko: with what? you are swapless?
[05:11] <blackgecko> amphi: rigth
[05:11] <amphi> rockzman: #ubuntu-br
[05:11] <amphi> blackgecko: you have a swap partition?
[05:11] <blackgecko> amphi: yes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14241
[05:11] <amphi> *snarf*
[05:12] <Xenguy> fnord
[05:12] <amphi> blackgecko: did you do the swapoff mkswap swapon dance?
[05:13] <thiago_> I'm with some problems configuring a dial up internet connection with Kubuntu. Can someone help me?
[05:13] <blackgecko> amphi: nop
[05:13] <blackgecko> amphi: ill do it now
[05:14] <amphi> blackgecko: you looked at /proc/swaps?
[05:14] <blackgecko> amphi: yeah nothing there
[05:14] <blackgecko> amphi: swapoff -a ??
[05:14] <amphi> blackgecko: what happens if you do swapon /dev/hda7 ?
[05:15] <amphi> blackgecko: any change in /proc/swaps ? or error?
[05:15] <blackgecko> amphi: well its now ther
[05:15] <blackgecko> amphi: looks like it wasnt formated
[05:15] <|Sivik|> anyone in here program?
[05:16] <amphi> blackgecko: you did mkswap just now?
[05:16] <blackgecko> amphi: yes
[05:17] <amphi> strange... you hadn't swsusp'd  and then booted another session?
[05:17] <evilyoda> okay, how can I get a GeForce 4 440 Go to work in dapper? The new versions of the Nvidia drivers don't work well - there's all kinds of distortion and artifacts on the screen. We downloaded an older driver version, but it won't install, maybe because it wasn't made for the 2.6 kernel. Ideas?
[05:17] <amphi> !dapper
[05:17] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[05:17] <gil> how do i set suspend mode automatically
[05:19] <amphi> thiago_: the easiest way to configure dialup I know of is pppconfig
[05:19] <blackgecko> if its worthy for someone ive already configured xgl + compiz on an ati X600 suceesfully, the only problem was with firefox and flash crashing, but solved installing flash player from macromedi
[05:20] <cedriczg> log
[05:20] <amphi> blackgecko: I'm sure many will be happy to hear that
[05:21] <cedriczg> hello people, I need some help about installing AMSN on ubuntu
[05:21] <cedriczg> Just basic help, how to install it
[05:21] <blackgecko> cedriczg: apt-get install amsn
[05:21] <thiago_> amphi: here's the problem: I tried to use pppconfig and kppp. It looks like everything is ok, but when I try to connect, it stops about 10 seconds later
[05:22] <cedriczg> I downloaded the binaries frfom AMSN
[05:22] <cedriczg> are the apt the last ones?
[05:22] <amphi> thiago_: you cans set the debug and kdebug options to get more verbose logging, FWIW
[05:22] <cedriczg> blackgecko, are the files from the apt the last ones?
[05:24] <cedriczg> blackgecko, on the AMSN site they have the 0.95-3
[05:24] <amphi> thiago_: perhaps your isp wants some pap or chap your setup is not currently configured for
[05:25] <blackgecko> cedriczg: maybe not the last ones but the easyest
[05:25] <thiago_> amphi, I tried this, something like HANGUP or SIGHUP was logged just before disconnecting
[05:25] <cedriczg> blackgecko, ok thank you very much
[05:26] <amphi> thiago_: there may have been something before that, like the isp saying 'gimme chap' and yours saying 'no chap here', or some such
[05:27] <thiago_> amphi, What does it mean? (I started using linux a couple of months ago)
[05:28] <amphi> thiago_: that the remote asked for a particular kind of authentication but your end is not set up to provide it
[05:28] <CaptainMorgan> folks how do I edit menu.lst with a livecd? no editor will open
[05:28] <CaptainMorgan> err.. Im using the original breezy as a rescue
[05:28] <Awesome-o2000> last try for my ati card - with DRI enabled I get a black screen of death - I have an ati x800gto - any solutions?
[05:29] <amphi> thiago_: I don't know if that's the cause of your problem, but it's one I've had more than once in the past
[05:29] <thiago_> amphi, I don't know, I remember seeing someting like PAP / CHAP selected in KPPP .
[05:29] <amphi> thiago_: I don't know about kppp I'm afraid
[05:30] <blackgecko> awesome-o2000: to much diferent from an X600 ??? i ave it working just fine ??
[05:30] <thiago_> amphi, sorry for the vague answer, but the computer with the problem isn't here
[05:30] <Awesome-o2000> blackgecko, I have no idea - my card works as long as ati is disabled
[05:30] <CaptainMorgan> arrrgg
[05:31] <cedriczg> blackgecko, well I tried the version on aptget and it is quite old, from 2004
[05:32] <cedriczg> I would be glad if someone guides me on installing AMSN on ubuuntu
[05:32] <amphi> cedriczg: from src?
[05:32] <thiago_> amphi, wait a sec
[05:32] <cedriczg> amphi, yes, from the files frfom the official site
[05:33] <amphi> cedriczg: there should be a README and/or an INSTALL file
[05:33] <blackgecko> Awesome-o2000: dumb question do you tried de ati howto ???
[05:33] <CaptainMorgan> anybody?
[05:34] <cedriczg> amphi, I looked for it, I'll try harder
[05:34] <blackgecko> CaptainMorgan: nano ??
[05:34] <cedriczg> amphi, but the targz has folders with usr and subfolders
[05:34] <amphi> cedriczg: normally, it's ./configure, then make, then sudo make install
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> nano?
[05:35] <cedriczg> amphi, oh yes, I just tried make
[05:35] <amphi> cedriczg: you may need to install the -dev packages for various libs
[05:35] <Awesome-o2000> blackgecko, yes, before I bothered you all with my own stupid questions :D
[05:35] <MiSS_n00b> Hi people, can somebody please recommend a vnc program I can use with ubuntu/mepis to connect to vnc in windows?
[05:35] <thiago_> amphi, just checked something in this computer. It's using the same server to connect and it's configured to use PAP, just as the troublesome computer
[05:35] <cedriczg> amphi, I guess so
[05:36] <amphi> cedriczg: if it says "can't find libfoo" and you know libfoo is installed, you need to install the libfoo-dev package
[05:36] <blackgecko> Awesome-o2000: im not a guru, but ill try to help, whats the problem ???
[05:36] <CaptainMorgan> what's nano?
[05:36] <amphi> thiago_: troublesome compter has a winmodem? ;)
[05:36] <blackgecko> nano is an editor
[05:36] <amphi> CaptainMorgan: a text editor
[05:36] <cedriczg> amphi, thanx a lot
[05:37] <CaptainMorgan> from the rescue environment?
[05:37] <thiago_> amphi, how did you guessed it?! :)
[05:37] <cedriczg> amphi, In case I have trouble I'll ask again ;)
[05:37] <Awesome-o2000> blackgecko, when I startx the system gives me a black screen of death if I have dri enabled with my fglrx module
[05:37] <thiago_> amphi, it's a Lucent winmodem
[05:37] <Javi> I have installed ubuntu although GRUB failed to install, how can I boot ubuntu on my dual Win2k?
[05:37] <Javi> Please PM tnx
[05:38] <blackgecko> Awesome-o2000: can i have a look at your xorg.conf ?
[05:38] <amphi> thiago_: lucent ones always worked pretty well for me, with the ltmodem driver
[05:38] <Awesome-o2000> blackgecko, yes let me pastebin it
[05:39] <amphi> thiago_: on this laptop is a bastard with a conexant chipset - I struggled for long to make it work with alsa, but in the end I capitulated and used the linuxant driver *blush*
[05:39] <Awesome-o2000> blackgecko, http://pastebin.com/725937
[05:39] <Awesome-o2000> blackgecko, dri is disabled in that of course, otherwise we wouldnt be able to chat :D
[05:40] <amphi> thiago_: linuxant seems to work ok, but 11 modules seems excessive even for a winmodem ;)
[05:40] <rgolden> I have a netgear wg511T wifi card (works fine) but how can I configure it for WPA-TKIP?
[05:41] <tritium> !wpa
[05:41] <ubotu> Enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[05:41] <thiago_> amphi, i've heard that the lovely Conexant sells the drives for linux
[05:41] <odat> anyone know how to fix weird problems like programs not opening or opening for a second then closing
[05:41] <amphi> rgolden: you need wpa_supplicant I believe
[05:41] <tritium> (see above)
[05:41] <thiago_> amphi, 11 MODULES for a modem!? I'll stop complaining...
[05:41] <amphi> thiago_: linuxant? free @ 14.4 ;)
[05:41] <rgolden> thanks ubotu and amphi
[05:41] <xxxBrandonxxx>
[05:42] <thiago_> amphi, ouch
[05:42] <syntax_error> has anyone had any problem with azureus when they upgraded to dapper
[05:42] <CaptainMorgan> anybody wanna direct me to how do re-install re-initialize grub? wiki didn't work, and rescue nor SGD worked
[05:42] <tritium> rgolden: ubotu is a bot.  I had him give that info ;)
[05:42] <NickGarvey> !tell syntax_error about dapper
[05:42] <thiago_> amphi, once I had a modem this fast, I neither used it. I was using windows 3.11...
[05:42] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: grub-install /dev/hda for most
[05:42] <syntax_error> nickgarvey:my azureus dont load no more
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> just hda?
[05:43] <syntax_error> just getting a blank screen
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> no number
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[05:43] <amphi> thiago_: I have a 14.4 hw pcmcia modem somewhere, a motorola 'ultrafast' or summat ;)
[05:43] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: is ubuntu your only os?
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> no
[05:43] <sparkleytone> what else?
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> Xp
[05:43] <CaptainMorgan> which IM on now
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> I can't get Ubuntu
[05:44] <sparkleytone> you'll prob want to grub-install /dev/hda with no #
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> no number?? hhmm...
[05:44] <sparkleytone> and then configure grub to boot xp as a chainloader
[05:44] <thiago_> amphi, really fast... maybe sometimes faster then my actual connecting (crappy free server)
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> grub already lists xp as a chainloader..
[05:44] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: it will basically rewrite to your MBR
[05:44] <amphi> thiago_: all I can suggest is setting debug and kdebug in the /etc/ppp/peers/whatever file, tail -f /var/log/syslog and do pon whatever
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> I read the menu.lst file through rescue
[05:45] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: that is good...now you need to make grub your bootloader...which would mean writing to the drive instead of the partition
[05:45] <amphi> thiago_: and perhaps in the noise in syslog you will find an answer
[05:45] <CaptainMorgan> so no number then..alright Ill try it :)
[05:45] <thiago_> amphi, I'll try it
[05:45] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: if you boot to the cd....
[05:46] <thiago_> amphi, thanks! :)
[05:46] <varsendagger> hey could someone help me with a bit of html?    and css   just basic stuff.    how do i make a background, and is it possible to layer images on top of eachother?
[05:46] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: and do an expert install...then go all the way thru the install until you get to the partitioning part...then press alt-f2...then chroot /target /bin/bash
[05:46] <amphi> thiago_: good luck
[05:46] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: then grub-install /dev/hda ... you won't need to reinstall the whole damn os
[05:46] <NickGarvey> :)
[05:47] <nnn0> varsendagger, that's what we hat #html and #css for :)
[05:47] <amphi> thiago_: it might also be worth looking into what exact chipset the modem has, you might not be using the correct/best driver
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> sparkleytone, so I don't boot to rescue?
[05:47] <i\o> I updated stuff using the update manager and now my wireless isn't working.. is there any way to roll back?
[05:47] <sparkleytone> CaptainMorgan: never tried the rescue so i dunno
[05:47] <thiago_> amphi, ok
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> so I boot to the cd and go all the way up to the partitioning
[05:48] <thiago_> amphi, bye!
[05:48] <amphi> bye
[05:48] <nnn0> varsendagger, and w3.org
[05:50] <Centaur5> I read that the newest kernel has support for my wireless but I still have to manually load the driver after booting.  Would a reinstall fix that?
[05:50] <amphi> Centaur5: you could do 'echo module_name | sudo tee -a /etc/modules' where module_name is the name of the, er, module
[05:51] <amphi> Centaur5: that'll cause the module to be loaded at boot time
[05:52] <Centaur5> amphi: I already put the name of the module in /etc/modules a few weeks ago
[05:52] <Awesome-o2000> that didnt work
[05:52] <hasan> has anyone set up MYTHTV and does anyone have recommendations on it?
[05:52] <jack|ass> so i have a box with two network adapters.  One is named eth0 and the other was arbitrarily assigned eth2.  How can i change the name of an interface?
[05:52] <jack|ass> (I want to use eth0 and eth1
[05:53] <amphi> Centaur5: and it's still not loaded at boot time?
[05:53] <Centaur5> amphi: No, I thought that was very strange
[05:53] <amphi> jack|ass: ifrename
[05:53] <amphi> Centaur5: when you modprobe it manually, do you need to set any args?
[05:53] <Centaur5> amphi: I installed the drivers for video as well but lspci still says that's unknown too.
[05:53] <jack|ass> amphi: how does it choose them in the first place?
[05:53] <Awesome-o2000> anyone have any suggestions? I installed the ATI drivers as the wiki told me to but I get a black screen of death when I start x with DRI enabled
[05:53] <amphi> jack|ass: I don't know why you get eth2
[05:54] <ShellMaza> Awesom, how many DVI ports?
[05:54] <Centaur5> amphi: I go into the drivers folder that I saved it and do sudo ./load debug=0
[05:54] <amphi> jack|ass: if they're modules, they're assigned in the order the modules are loaded
[05:54] <jack|ass> amphi: yeah, but it skips eth1.
[05:54] <ShellMaza> if 2, shutdown, switch the DVI cable to the other dvi port, boot pc
[05:54] <amphi> Centaur5: this is ipw2200?
[05:54] <Centaur5> amphi: ipw3945
[05:55] <amphi> Centaur5: ah... ipw2200 loads here from /etc/modules - I assume you did make install?
[05:55] <ShellMaza> Awesome-o2000, how many dvi ports does ur video card have?
[05:55] <Awesome-o2000> ShellMaza, theres one DVI port and im using it
[05:55] <ShellMaza> look
[05:55] <ShellMaza> oh
[05:56] <ShellMaza> never mind...
[05:56] <Centaur5> amphi: The instructions had me do make install with ieee80211 but then it had me copy firmware files and the module to the proper locations.
[05:56] <Awesome-o2000> :((
[05:56] <Centaur5> amphi: After that the final step was ./load debug=0
[05:57] <amphi> Centaur5: if you inload, does modprobe ipw3945 work?
[05:57] <amphi> *unload
[05:58] <amphi> Centaur5: BTW, does that driver have master mode?
[05:58] <Centaur5> amphi: I never tried that, after booting I tried typing that but I never tried unloading after having it work then modprobing it
[05:58] <Centaur5> amphi: I honestly don't know what master mode is
[05:58] <amphi> lets the card act as an AP
[05:58] <jack|ass> hrm
[05:59] <Centaur5> amphi: I know that it's still in development, for some reason the very newest one won't work for me.  I don't know what features they have built in.
[05:59] <amphi> Centaur5: so you have successfully modprobed it? then it should work from /etc/modules; perhaps it wants a depmod -a?
[06:00] <amphi> Centaur5: heh, I'm using an oldish version of ipw2200, it works well enough for me ATM
[06:00] <Centaur5> amphi: No, I never was successful doing modprobe, I always had to do the ./load script.  I already did depmod -a when tring modprobe
[06:01] <Centaur5> amphi: All the instructions and things I looked up didn't get me anywhere and it's getting annoying loading from the script every time  :)
[06:02] <amphi> Centaur5: when you get it to work with modprobe, it'll work from /etc/modules ;) what error does modprobe give you?
[06:03] <amphi> Centaur5: did you try make install in the module src dir?
[06:03] <Centaur5> amphi: That much I don't remember, would that error be in a log since it is in /etc/modules?
[06:03] <amphi> Centaur5: where is the module?
[06:03] <Centaur5> amphi: There isn't a make file in the driver directory
[06:03] <amphi> Centaur5: just unload it and modprobe it now
[06:04] <amphi> Centaur5: FWIW, mine is /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko
[06:05] <amphi> Centaur5: but ISTR that there's some daemon with your driver?
[06:05] <amphi> Centaur5: it may not be just a module, now that I think of it
[06:06] <Centaur5> amphi: Hmm...with a new kernel update would it get rid of the old directory in /lib/modules?
[06:07] <amphi> Centaur5: no, but modules are in /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[06:07] <Centaur5> amphi: Wait, I found it. They had me copy the module to /lib/modules/2.6.15-21-686
[06:08] <Centaur5> amphi: I just noticed that I have the new 2.6.15-22 kernel though, I guess that might be it?
[06:08] <Centaur5> amphi: Should I create a /net/wireless directory and place it there?
[06:09] <jrattner1> Whats a fun free multiplayer game
[06:09] <amphi> Centaur5: nothing will find it in /net/wireless - but you should install it for the new kernel
[06:09] <Centaur5> amphi: I actually had to do that when the new kernel came out....well I had to reinstall the ieee80211 but that was it
[06:10] <Centaur5> amphi: the 2.6.15-22 is the one I was told has the built in kernel support so I guess that's why I haven't had to reinstall it?
[06:10] <amphi> Centaur5: dunno - I build my own kernels, and build the driver when I upgrade
[06:11] <Centaur5> amphi: I tried stripping down a kernel but I got errors trying to compile.  I don't think I know enough about what I can take out.
[06:11] <amphi> Centaur5: if it's in the kernel, it should modprobe - perhaps you should look at that load script and see what it does
[06:11] <Centaur5> amphi: Good idea, I should have thought of that
[06:13] <amphi> has the ieee80211 stuff not been merged into the kernel yet? I'm still on 2.6.11 ;)
[06:13] <Centaur5> amphi: I think this new driver needs a newer ieee80211 version.  It looks like the script is loading ieee80211 before it attempts the driver.
[06:13] <babo> Has anyone got any idea as to why my crontab won't execute commands that I hand to it ... ?
[06:14] <amphi> Centaur5: this is what may be giving you grief, "The binary user space regulatory daemon"
[06:14] <babo> The cron process is running and I've checked permissions ... even when i run as root ... I get nothing ... :-(
[06:14] <Centaur5> amphi: I wouldn't know, should that be an error that shows up somewhere?
[06:14] <amphi> Centaur5: you probably need to have that start up before the module is loaded
[06:15] <amphi> Centaur5: that's what I dimly recalled reading about
[06:15] <eth0-noob> ...
[06:15] <eth0-noob> can someone help me?
[06:15] <eth0-noob> i hate my computer.
[06:15] <amphi> Centaur5: have a look at the load script, I bet it starts that thing up before or after loading the module
[06:15] <Centaur5> amphi: Yeah, and it checks for the firmware
[06:16] <eth0-noob> i try to play music with xmms or anything else, and it says either 1, it cannot open it for reading or 2, (xmms) it just goes through all music really fast
[06:16] <amphi> Centaur5: here's the README for the nasty thing: http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/README.ipw3945d
[06:17] <amphi> Centaur5: that needs to be swiftly RE'd ;)
[06:17] <eth0-noob> i used ls to see what was up ... and it all says "permission denied" i even sudo chmod +777 all of it
[06:17] <eth0-noob> nothing changed... piece of shit (excuse my french)
[06:17] <amphi> eth0-noob: chmod 777 is not wise
[06:18] <Centaur5> amphi: Alright, I'll check that out then.  Perhaps I'll copy the firmware files again and the driver into the new /lib/modules directory and see if I can get the stupid thing going.
[06:18] <eth0-noob> i could chown... but that didnt work either.
[06:18] <eth0-noob> i just wanna  play music...
[06:18] <accrc> I am new to this and #1. I want to know how to make my Lexmark printer, scanner usable here. #2. I want to add universe to games. I have been told but it is not working. I wonder if my program is loaded right? Is it me or the program I need help I like this idea but I am stuck. #3.I went to the help page to print out general help and it is a language of the PC.
[06:18] <Centaur5> amphi: Oh, I do have the regulatory demon copied there.
[06:18] <crimsun> eth0-noob: pastebin: ``cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && lspci -v && lspci -nv && amixer -c0''
[06:19] <amphi> Centaur5: fw should be fine; I reckon the module fails to load, or then doesn't work, from /etc/modules, because you must explicitly start the revolting regulatory daemon
[06:19] <Centaur5> amphi: Uh oh, I have programs crashing left and right  :)
[06:19] <GMullen> is there a way to make sure i have full read/write for NTFS?
[06:19] <amphi> Centaur5: yeah, but if you don't use the load script, you must perhaps start the daemon manually?
[06:19] <kwtm> I've forgotten the command for either apt-get or dpkg to clean up the package database if it has been left in a mess, such as if the power goes out in the middle of an install/configure.  What was the command again?
[06:20] <amphi> kwtm: apt-get -f install perhaps
[06:20] <kwtm> amphi: Will try.  Thanks.
[06:20] <Ethh4x> Which Distro is better Gentoo or Ubuntu
[06:20] <eth0-noob> wtf
[06:20] <Centaur5> amphi: Yeah, I think I'm going to copy everything again and make sure everything is in the right place with all these new updates coming out.  I'm sure it will start going then.
[06:20] <amphi> Ethh4x: debian
[06:20] <eth0-noob> omfg i hate this im reinstalling ubuntu
[06:21] <VR_> is it a good idea to install breezy "server", and then update to dapper?
[06:21] <Ethh4x> I don't want a big distro
[06:21] <amphi> Centaur5: if the load script works ok, everything is fine
[06:21] <GMullen> is there a way to make sure i have full read/write for NTFS?
[06:21] <eth0-noob> im also going to kill myself now because i dont understand...
[06:21] <Ethh4x> 7 CD installation I want a small and good distro
[06:21] <eth0-noob> goodybe.
[06:21] <amphi> Centaur5: you could always just call the load script at boot time ;)
[06:21] <Centaur5> amphi: Okay, are you in here often?
[06:21] <amphi> Centaur5: from time to time
[06:21] <eth0-noob> ...
[06:21] <spikeb> debian can be netinstalled
[06:21] <eth0-noob> stupid computer
[06:21] <spikeb> one small netinst cd
[06:21] <Centaur5> amphi: I thought about researching how to do that but figured it's a ghetto way to do it  :)
[06:21] <tritium> eth0-noob: calm down, there is good help here
[06:22] <Centaur5> amphi: Alright, I just figure I have to disconnect to do all this and I'll try to let you know if it worked or not.
[06:22] <amphi> Centaur5: ghetto-tip: you could call it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ;)
[06:23] <Centaur5> amphi: haha, if reinstalling all this doesn't work I"ll do it!  :)
[06:23] <amphi> Centaur5: good luck
[06:23] <Centaur5> Thanks amphi, I really appreciate it.  Hope to be in your shoes someday having all the answers  :)
[06:23] <Ethh4x> Gentoo is better then Ubuntu
[06:23] <amphi> regulatory daemon *snort*
[06:24] <kwtm> Just a comment: thank goodness for this ubuntu forum!  Thanks, gurus.
[06:24] <accrc> I'm waiting and I don't know if someone will or can HELP ME
[06:25] <crimsun> !ask
[06:25] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[06:25] <amphi> accrc: what does #3 mean?
[06:26] <megasquid> how do i set the windowmanager in ubuntu, somehow i forgot?
[06:27] <accrc> i COULDN'T GET HELP TO PTINT IN ENGLISH
[06:27] <tritium> accrc: could you please lower your case?
[06:27] <Madpilot> accrc, lay off the all caps, please
[06:27] <amphi> accrc: please don't shout
[06:27] <accrc> sorry
[06:27] <amphi> accrc: what language did it print?
[06:28] <accrc> none it came up in un readable sysab
[06:28] <amphi> sysab>
[06:28] <amphi> er, ?
[06:29] <toad013> has anyone used xnest?
[06:30] <accrc> computer laungage
[06:32] <amphi> accrc: what is your default language?
[06:33] <accrc> english
[06:33] <budluva> any suggestions on a good firefox alternative that uses less memory
[06:33] <ActivitY> back ^^
[06:34] <spikbebi1> budluva: opera?
[06:34] <toad013> i like opera
[06:34] <budluva> ill try it, just that im using my machine via ssh, and firefox seems slow
[06:34] <reggaemanu> budluva, maybe epiphany
[06:35] <Spikbebis> or konqueror
[06:35] <narg> can you cap a process to a certain % of cpu?
[06:35] <Cyphir> yea epiphany is a good one
[06:35] <narg> budluva: konq, lynx :)
[06:35] <reggaemanu> opera isn't really faster than firefox...it is also an heavy app
[06:35] <accrc> it was not a language any one could read unless they can read boxes ooooo's
[06:35] <reggaemanu> epiphany is light
[06:35] <budluva> thanks for the suggestions
[06:35] <Cyphir> anyone use a composite manager?
[06:35] <budluva> tryin epiphany now
[06:35] <toad013> xgl/compiz
[06:35] <reggaemanu> Cyphir, sure
[06:36] <reggaemanu> xgl/compiz powah :p
[06:36] <Cyphir> i love fade and drop shadows =P
[06:36] <Cyphir> even though it crashes on me alot
[06:36] <toad013> i can't get my xnest working so i can use java swing apps
[06:36] <reggaemanu> what graphic card have you got?
[06:36] <amphi> Cyphir: have to suffer for teh candies, huh? ;)
[06:36] <Cyphir> mvidia
[06:37] <Cyphir> amphi: yea =P
[06:37] <Cyphir> but i have a toggle button to turn it off / on
[06:37] <reggaemanu> toad013, on xgl/compiz? the bug with java apps only appears on j2re 1.5, if you use the java blackboc 1.4 that works fine
[06:37] <accrc> maybe I should ask, what should I choose to open it with?
[06:37] <reggaemanu> no need to run an xnest server
[06:37] <budluva> just did an apt-get of epiphany-browser and went to go fire it up, got an error saying startup failed: unable to determine the address of the message bus
[06:37] <budluva> any suggestions on how i go about fixing this
[06:38] <reggaemanu> Cyphir, hum with nvidia xgl works really fine
[06:38] <toad013> would i have problems using blackboc if i'm using the j2sdk?
[06:38] <reggaemanu> budluva, it's pretty odd
[06:38] <Cyphir> Reggaemanu: yea i dunno why sometimes my panel just disspaers and killall gnome-panel doesnt work
[06:39] <Awesome-o2000> I got it!!! I had to compile them myself
[06:39] <Awesome-o2000> direct rendering: Yes'
[06:39] <CaptainMorgan> ls
[06:39] <CaptainMorgan> oops
[06:39] <fender__> personally i prefer sun's 1.4 to blackdown's one
[06:39] <CaptainMorgan> sparkleytone, you da man maing - hda worked
[06:40] <fender__> it's sometimes bit unstable... at least for me
[06:40] <reggaemanu> Cyphir, you are are pretty unlucky ^^ I never heard spoken about this problem
[06:40] <accrc> cane you give me a help www address?
[06:40] <Cyphir> reggaemanu: hmm i guess
[06:40] <Cyphir> regaemanu: at least Open Office has a recover feature and you can get a recoverlike feature for firefox
[06:41] <stfn> budluva: "message bus" is probably dbus... check if dbus is installed and running (should be, it's pretty essential)
[06:41] <amphi> accrc: linuxprinting.org perhaps
[06:41] <reggaemanu> fender__, for sure, but you have to make a choice, 1.4 works fine with xgl/compiz, and 1.5 is buggy, so...
[06:41] <fender__> reggaemanu, ah, i mean sun's j2se 1.4.x
[06:42] <fender__> i've heard that swing in 5.x has some problem with compiz as you mentioned
[06:42] <budluva> stfn, well ive been getting a wierd error about dbus needing to be started when i log in, this is just after installing the new -23 kernel, could be causing this, apparently the -23 restricted modules havent showed up in the repos
[06:42] <budluva> but since i have no choice on what kernel to boot into i think im screwed
[06:42] <reggaemanu> Cyphir, i use xgl on dapper since david's first "public release" (so in february) and i've never experienced any bug like that
[06:42] <toad013> yeah swing in compiz shows nothing
[06:43] <reggaemanu> so it's why i said you're pretty unlucky
[06:43] <Cyphir> reggaemanu: i guess its a problem with the toggle button i made
[06:43] <toad013> i spent 3 hours debugging my java code tihnking it was my code but it was just compiz
[06:43] <Orborde> Does the checkinstall script work if I do something like tar xf somefile.tar.gz? I'm trying to install a proprietary thing that comes as a tarball to be extracted at /.
[06:43] <Cyphir> taod01: wow lol
[06:43] <fender__> btw, i have both compiz and sun java 5 installed and i don't have such a problem it seems - i can run jbuilder ok
[06:43] <reggaemanu> toad013,  yeah, that ios, there is a prblem with java swing, but with the blackbox j2re version there is no problem
[06:43] <accrc> I will try it .        Thank you
[06:43] <reggaemanu> that is*
[06:44] <fender__> i guess you guy's are talking about 'Blackdown' java :)
[06:44] <reggaemanu> fender__, all java application that don't use "swing" are ok
[06:44] <pargari> hi
[06:44] <fender__> jbuilder is swing
[06:44] <Cyphir> anyone here need help with setting up frostwire?
[06:44] <fender__> though i use swt most of times
[06:44] <Cyphir> like it doesnt open
[06:44] <reggaemanu> hum
[06:44] <toad013> frostwire is swing too
[06:44] <Cyphir> ahhh
[06:45] <stfn> budluva: ah, i just apt-get'd (apt-got?) -23 too but haven't rebooted yet.  on my system there are 2 dbus-daemon and 1 debus-launch processes
[06:45] <reggaemanu> fender__, swing app should have some problem in xgl/compir (white window)
[06:45] <reggaemanu> compiz*
[06:45] <Cyphir> is xcompmgr any good?
[06:45] <fender__> maybe it's just some version that has or has not such problem then
[06:45] <toad013> so far you can either use blackdown's java... or try to get an xnest window up and load the app there...
[06:45] <budluva> stfn, well ubuntu+1 says boot -22 until the -23 restricted modules is in the repos, so i wouldnt suggest rebooting :P
[06:45] <reggaemanu> anyway, i don't use any java app so i don't really know but as it was reported a lot's of time...
[06:46] <reggaemanu> (sorry for my english)
[06:46] <fender__> yeah i heard that too
[06:46] <fender__> hehe i have hard time writting in english myself :)
[06:46] <toad013> but my xnest won't load any window manager cause it says its already running....
[06:46] <reggaemanu> toad013, xnest is pretty useless
[06:47] <Cyphir> oops back wrong button =P
[06:47] <toad013> reggaemanu, so far... i agree with you
[06:47] <reggaemanu> i use xgl as my principal x server for 3 month now and no problem here ^^
[06:47] <NickGarvey> xgl is pretty
[06:47] <reggaemanu> never return on xorg
[06:47] <reggaemanu> returned*
[06:47] <reggaemanu> hum, my english sucks
[06:48] <jerware_> fellaz
[06:49] <fender__> http://www.gnome.or.kr/albums/screenshots/xgl.png - just a screeny of mine, had to show if off :)
[06:49] <jerware> is there a way to find how what hard drives are connected in my PC?
[06:49] <jerware> i would like to mount a second drive
[06:49] <NickGarvey> jerware: fdisk -l
[06:50] <fender__> would love to have some compiz/xgl settings integrated to gnome desktop
[06:50] <reggaemanu> fender__, heyhey, macslow cairo's clock :D
[06:50] <reggaemanu> macslow rock !
[06:50] <fender__> hehe i use it in 512x512 size now :)
[06:51] <Cyphir> Im testing out a composite manager called xcompmgr
[06:51] <reggaemanu> i can't wait to his "lowfat" project will be finished
[06:51] <jerware_> hi
[06:51] <fender__> hi jerware_
[06:51] <reggaemanu> this will be definitely a killer app
[06:52] <jerware> hi
[06:52] <NickGarvey> jerware_: fdisk -l
[06:52] <Cyphir> terminal being semi-transparent rocks =P
[06:52] <NickGarvey> ahh pick one
[06:52] <Centaur5> Does ubuntu have a replacement for /etc/modprobe.conf and /etc/modules.d/?
[06:52] <jerware> NickGarvey:  will fdisk work even if the slave device is not yet mounted?
[06:53] <NickGarvey> jerware: yup, thats why said that and not mount ;)
[06:53] <reggaemanu> Cyphir, xcompmgr is totally outdated (although  it works)
[06:53] <jerware> oh ok
[06:53] <Cyphir> reggaemanu: yea but it looks light
[06:53] <toad013> fender_, have you used blackdown's java sdk?
[06:54] <fender__> yes, about year or two ago
[06:54] <reggaemanu> Centaur5, /etc/modprobe.d/....
[06:54] <fender__> had some stability problems then
[06:54] <Centaur5> reggaemanu: Okay, I was going to try that but I wanted to be sure.  Thanks
[06:54] <toad013> there shouldn't be a big difference if i swich from sun's 1.5 j2sdk right?
[06:54] <fender__> don't know how much has changed since
[06:55] <reggaemanu> Centaur5, /etc/modprobe.d/options and /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist are probably what you are looking for
[06:55] <fender__> they both share most of codebase anyway
[06:55] <Centaur5> reggaemanu: To make a regulatory demon whenever a module loads?
[06:55] <reggaemanu> toad013, sdk is for developpement, s o it is pretty useless except if you're developping a java app
[06:55] <fender__> but afaik, blackdown doesn't have java 5.x yet
[06:56] <reggaemanu> toad013, j2re is the java runtime lib
[06:56] <Centaur5> reggaemanu: To make a regulatory demon start that is
[06:56] <reggaemanu> then, blackdown is an open source version of java, it is not uptodate
[06:57] <toad013> yeah... i'm programming in java for servlets and such
[06:57] <helloall> hello all
[06:57] <NickGarvey> hello.. helloall..
[06:57] <helloall> I'm getting sick of gentoo's portage dep inconsistancies, and I'm thinking of moving over to ubuntu
[06:57] <eng> hello all
[06:58] <reggaemanu> Centaur5, mmh, sorry i don't understand exactly what you mean by deamon start while speaking about modprobe, modprobe is for loading modules, not daemons...
[06:58] <kamo> i just started useing ubuntu yesterday ^_^
[06:58] <helloall> I was a debian user for a few years before that. But one of the reasons I moved to gentoo in the first place was because debians lack of keeping uptodate with software.
[06:58] <fender__> er... i guess blackdown is just a linux port of sun's jdk, it's not opensource like classpath/gcj
[06:58] <helloall> How does ubuntu rate with its packages releases.
[06:58] <toad013> i'll just do a config java whenever i need it
[06:58] <Madpilot> helloall, Ubuntu updates with every release, every six months.
[06:58] <kamo> theres a new release about to drop too
[06:59] <NickGarvey> helloall: quite a jump, gentoo to ubuntu ;)
[06:59] <Centaur5> reggaemanu: Right, the instructions for this wireless driver says that /etc/modules.conf has to have 2 lines to launch a regulatory demon whenever the ipw3945 module is loaded.
[06:59] <reggaemanu> helloall, ubuntu release packages when it is needed, nobody can tell you the rate, there is no constant "rate"
[06:59] <kamo> im a linux n00b i have my cousin put in all the codes while i watch ^_^
[07:00] <toad013> at least you watch
[07:00] <NickGarvey> :)
[07:00] <toad013> i have my friends call me then they just sit back and watch g4
[07:00] <spikeb> kamo: if you watch and ask questions, that's a pretty good way to learn
[07:00] <reggaemanu> Centaur5, ok, so, i think /etc/modules.conf is replaced by /etc/modules (or maybe /etc/modprobe.d/options i don't really know)
[07:00] <helloall> reggaemanu: fair enough, but how is the community when it comes to packages, is their a diverse amount? or would it compare to say debian woody?
[07:00] <kamo> haha @ toad013
[07:01] <reggaemanu> helloall, hum, community is far much active than debian one's
[07:01] <Centaur5> reggaemanu: I'll try the options file and if that doesn't work I'll just try the modules file.  I don't think that will hurt anything.
[07:01] <stfn> helloall: ubuntu basically snapshots debian unstable once every 6 months
[07:01] <Cyphir> helloall: omg te community at ubuntu is absolutly huge and active
[07:01] <Madpilot> helloall, there's about 18.000 packages in Ubuntu's repos
[07:01] <helloall> ok thanks
[07:01] <toad013> lol
[07:01] <helloall> sounds good
[07:02] <zcat[1] > ubuntu and debian are fairly close communities.. about the same number of packages I think.. ubuntu aims to release a new version every 6 months, I think debian aims for a stable version every 6 years... :)
[07:02] <reggaemanu> debiajn is a good distro, but the community is pretty inactive, and really "mind limited" (they don't like other distro users, like ubuntu's ones for example..)
[07:02] <varsendagger> !JRE
[07:02] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, varsendagger
[07:02] <kamo> are any of you useing XChat?
[07:03] <fender__> me
[07:03] <Cyphir> anyone have andy GTK2x themes?
[07:03] <reggaemanu> helloall, no this should doesn't hurt anything if it doesn't work it will just doens't work
[07:03] <Cyphir> i am
[07:03] <toad013> yes
[07:03] <rightcoast> kamo, yep
[07:03] <reggaemanu> debian*
[07:03] <kamo> where is the script window like say i want to put in a script for an rpg chat
[07:03] <varsendagger> hey how do i get jre   working with firefox, i got it downloaded and sudo sh .jre and it installed but it still isn't working with firefox
[07:03] <helloall> well, i think I'll give it a whirl. thanks for the advice all
[07:03] <zcat[1] > !java
[07:03] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:04] <Cyphir> helloall: the live cd can't really do it justice
[07:04] <fender__> variant, you can just apt-get install the latest version of sun's java now
[07:04] <reggaemanu> helloall, just take a look to ubuntu's forums (at least english and/or french forums) and you will be fixed :p
[07:04] <rightcoast> fender__, really?!
[07:04] <reggaemanu> ubuntu community is amazing
[07:04] <kamo> automatix is pretty good
[07:04] <rob138> can anyone help me figure out why halflife2 won't start after loading screen in wine, it is driving me crazy, i've looked over tons of websites and forums and have found no answer
[07:04] <fender__> rightcoast, yeah, it has hit the repository just a few days ago
[07:04] <Cyphir> omg u seen the howtos ;)
[07:05] <zcat[1] > !automatix
[07:05] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:05] <cr3> which command tells me which version of ubuntu I'm running?
[07:05] <helloall> uname -a ?
[07:05] <rightcoast> im new to ubuntu, but someone pointed out easyubuntu, i liked that
[07:05] <tritium> cr3: lsb_release -a
[07:05] <rightcoast> python for gtk and qt;)
[07:05] <reggaemanu> haha, automatix sucks
[07:05] <cr3> tritium: nope, that only returns that I'm running some Linux
[07:05] <Cyphir> it replaces your sources list...
[07:05] <Orborde> Compiling things from source is an amazing amount of fun. For anyone who cares, by the way, "checkinstall tar xf foo.tar.bz2" works just fine.
[07:06] <helloall> reggaemanu: ok will do cheers
[07:06] <reggaemanu> the author doesn't respect the GPL licence of easyubuntu (it is based on the easybuntu code)
[07:06] <helloall> later all
[07:06] <kamo> lol im a n00b i let my cousin put it on here so i could actully watch movies without the error
[07:06] <papo> Hello
[07:06] <papo> will anybody help me with an issue here
[07:06] <papo> ?
[07:06] <Cyphir> sure
[07:06] <tritium> cr3: no, that's the appropriate command
[07:06] <toad013> yes!! swing app's alive again!
[07:06] <Cyphir> i will if i can
[07:06] <papo> about VLC in ubuntu
[07:06] <reggaemanu> toad013, with blackdown java?
[07:06] <nickrud> reggaemanu, you have one thing wrong, automatix came before easyubunt
[07:06] <tritium> cr3: you can also "cat /etc/issue"
[07:07] <rightcoast> reggaemanu, I got bored and went with neither http://pastebin.com/725341
[07:07] <cr3> tritium: sorry, I misread, my comment was for helloall
[07:07] <nickrud> u
[07:07] <fender__> hehe good for you... i hate swing though :)
[07:07] <toad013> yeah... i decided that if i need to program i'll just update-alternatives --config java and change it to sun j2sdk
[07:07] <reggaemanu> nickrud, hum sorry but no, that is defintely wrong ;)
[07:07] <rightcoast> used the dapper wiki page ands a depracted script
[07:07] <papo> will anybody please help me with an issue here??
[07:07] <rightcoast> ill fix the java part since apt can handle it now ehh?
[07:07] <rightcoast> :D
[07:07] <Cyphir> papo: sure say iy
[07:07] <rob138> !pastebin
[07:07] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:08] <reggaemanu> NickGarvey, easyubuntu is a french app and i'm french i'm reading the french ubuntu forum everyday and i 'm really sure that is totally wrong :)
[07:08] <nickrud> reggaemanu, I've fought automatix for a long time. it came first
[07:08] <reggaemanu> hmm sorry it was for nickrud
[07:08] <reggaemanu> easyubuntu exist for around 1 year now...
[07:08] <reggaemanu> and there was a fight because of the non-respect of the licence for automatix
[07:09] <reggaemanu> so easyubuntu is older than automatix
[07:09] <nickrud> reggaemanu, join #easyubuntu and ask that question
[07:09] <reggaemanu> but automatix is more "complete" it's not for newbies
[07:09] <tritium> reggaemanu: it's not a french app
[07:09] <rightcoast> nickrud, i understand linux fairly well debian for a couple years, what in particular sucks about automatix, i havent seen it yrt
[07:09] <fender__> reggaemanu, are you french? cool :) i've learned french for 3 years when i was in school, but i can't even count numbers in it now hehe
[07:09] <reggaemanu> nickrud, no need to ask :) i already know the answer
[07:09] <Cyphir> rightcaost: it deletes/adds to your sources list without telling u
[07:09] <papo> Cyphir dude you there?
[07:09] <reggaemanu> fender__, yeah, i'm french
[07:10] <Cyphir> papo: yea
[07:10] <mikebot> !java
[07:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:10] <rightcoast> ahh yeah, my script asks at least
[07:10] <nickrud> rightcoast, it assumes it's going onto a pristine install. easyubuntu tries to be more forgiving, so I'm told
[07:10] <papo> man do you know if it takes further than the instalation in Ubuntu of the VLC application  to watch DVDs
[07:10] <Cyphir> papo: use Totem Movie player
[07:10] <reggaemanu> fender__, un, deux, trois, quatre, cinqu, six, sept, huit, neuf, dix, ... xD
[07:11] <tritium> !dvd
[07:11] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:11] <reggaemanu> cinq*
[07:11] <fender__> hehe :)
[07:11] <papo> man it does not work either...it says cannot read no DVD
[07:11] <rightcoast> nickrud, the script i pasted assumes a clean install, but it's up front about that frankly its for me anyway
[07:11] <rightcoast> if anyone wants it though its all good
[07:11] <papo> thanks ubotu
[07:11] <Cyphir> papo: type sudo apt-get libdvdcss2
[07:11] <kamo> libdvdcss2? what is that
[07:11] <Cyphir> papoL tin terminal
[07:12] <papo> ok i am going to do that Cyphir
[07:12] <reggaemanu> nickrud, do you understand the french language?
[07:12] <heatxsink> hello all, I'm getting an error when trying to upgrade samba, and apt-get install -f isn't working
[07:12] <reggaemanu> nickrud, if it is, read that and you will know : http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/12/05/78-automatix-viole-la-gpl
[07:12] <nickrud> rightcoast, I have seen plenty of people have perfect automatix experiences; but the complaints that I've tracked down had to do with the user doing things to their install that automatix didn't deal with
[07:12] <Cyphir> nickrud: like frostwire ?
[07:13] <reggaemanu> automatix is a fork from easyubuntu
[07:13] <rightcoast> yeah, it sounds as if its something like what i did, i found a depracted script on the mr bass site and made it dapper ready
[07:13] <nickrud> Cyphir, no, I tend to deal only with java & X & non-free media on a regular basis
[07:13] <reggaemanu> that don't respect the GPL licence (maybe now it respect i don't know but in the beginning it wasn't)
[07:14] <Cyphir> nickrud: ah i see
[07:14] <reggaemanu> (sorry for my english -_-' )
[07:14] <tritium> reggaemanu: it's not a fork, either
[07:14] <Cyphir> reggaemanu: np ur english is good
[07:14] <reggaemanu> i'm not sure my sentence is really english
[07:14] <papo> it doesnt work,
[07:14] <nickrud> reggaemanu, no no french
[07:15] <tritium> Cyphir: and yours is not (e.g. "ur") ;)
[07:15] <reggaemanu> tritium, maybe not now, i don't really know, but in the beginning it was ;)
[07:15] <tritium> reggaemanu: nope, never was
[07:15] <reggaemanu> it surely was ^^
[07:15] <rightcoast> hmm im reading about automatix now
[07:15] <Cyphir> tritium: i type fast =P
[07:15] <T`2> hey, what do you guys use to encrypt partitions on ubuntu?
[07:15] <rightcoast> As of 23 January, 2006, '--force-yes' was used.
[07:15] <tritium> reggaemanu: impossible, as it came first
[07:15] <rightcoast> http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[07:15] <T`2> i use dmcrypt on fedora.. is this available? can't find apt-get package for it
[07:15] <rightcoast> that is not good
[07:15] <eggzeck> !automatix
[07:15] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:15] <reggaemanu> tritium, no it wasn't come first ^^
[07:16] <tritium> reggaemanu: you are mistaken, sir
[07:16] <fender__> !easyubuntu
[07:16] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[07:16] <Cyphir> sudo apt-get rocks =P
[07:16] <rightcoast> i spoke to soon
[07:16] <rightcoast> As of 1 Feb, 2006, --force-yes is gone, but has "echo -e "y\nY\n""
[07:17] <rightcoast> still that will echo a yes on the user forcefully
[07:17] <rightcoast> hmm
[07:17] <rightcoast> easyubuntu seems better from all angles IMHO
[07:17] <papo> man is there any other secret to make the VLC work??
[07:18] <NickGarvey> friends don't let friends use automatix
[07:18] <rightcoast> papo whats up with it?
[07:18] <hey560> fully agreed NickGarvey
[07:18] <reggaemanu> tritium, fort release of eaysubuntu was 08/21/05 and first automatix release was 09/17/05 (i've just checked) so, sorry but YOU are wrong :)
[07:18] <toad013> lol
[07:18] <hey560> automatix is bordering on being a worm
[07:18] <reggaemanu> s/forst/first
[07:18] <eggzeck> stop stealing that and replacing "windows" to automatix :p
[07:18] <papo> rightcoast, I dunno I installed it from synaptic
[07:18] <eggzeck> leave windows there please
[07:18] <papo> and stuff
[07:18] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:18] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:18] <rightcoast> well yeah, but what is wrong?
[07:18] <papo> but when I insert a dvd it does not read it
[07:19] <ubuntu> help FreeBSD ??
[07:19] <papo> how the heck do i do to make VLC recgonize dthe DVD
[07:19] <tritium> reggaemanu: again, you are mistaken, but it is offtopic, and we won't debate it further
[07:19] <rightcoast> papo apt-cache show libdvdcss2
[07:19] <nickrud> reggaemanu, look again, easyubuntu was written in response to automatix. But, this kind of discussion doesn't belong on a simple suppot channel
[07:19] <rightcoast> did you install that?
[07:20] <mikebot> does anyone know whyt he video in totem doesn't work for me anymore? (the audio still does)
[07:20] <Cyphir> Anyone has a good GTK 2x theme that looks nice?
[07:20] <fender__> maybe you could try art-manager
[07:20] <nalioth> reggaemanu: tritium: nickrud: rightcoast: eggzeck: easyubuntu vs automatix can be discussed to your hearts content in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <reggaemanu> nickrud, from the automatix threads on the forum :
[07:21] <reggaemanu> Credits:
[07:21] <reggaemanu> 1) keyes (for showing the way)
[07:21] <papo> mm no i dont think so
[07:21] <fender__> or visit www.gnome-look.org / art.gnome.org to check yourself
[07:21] <reggaemanu> keyes is the french developper of easyubuntu...
[07:21] <rightcoast> papo, you need that in Linux to decrypt dvd's
[07:21] <mikebot> what's the difference between totem-xine and totem-gstreamer?
[07:21] <rightcoast> its in apt
[07:21] <fender__> they use different backend to play video libxine/gstreamer respectively
[07:21] <rightcoast> so sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[07:21] <eggzeck> nalioth: read up, I wasn't discussing that with anyone ;P
[07:22] <mikebot> rightcoast, does it matter which i have?
[07:22] <frank_> mikebot: I have had much more success with xine
[07:22] <reggaemanu> nickrud, so, sorry but stop to say anything :)
[07:22] <rightcoast> mikebot in a word it shouldnt AFAIK, but i use xine
[07:22] <mikebot> frank_, my xine right now doesn't play video==i just get a blue background. this just recently started happening
[07:22] <toad013> i prefer xine as well but since compiz i've been having problems so i switched to mplayer
[07:22] <reggaemanu> easyubuntu is one month older than automatix
[07:22] <Orborde> I'm thinking of filing a bug report or something about this, but I'm checking here first: Would it be considered a bug if a ./configure script fails to notice that, say, the libfoo headers are present, but not the library files themselves? (The problem was with libXaw and OGRE (a 3D game engine))
[07:23] <frank_> mikebot: restart X
[07:23] <fender__> you can use non-free codecs with gstreamer too btw, you just need to install additional packages and codecs
[07:23] <mikebot> i hate mplayer cause i always get errors and you can't zoom
[07:23] <mikebot> frank_, how do i do that?
[07:23] <reggaemanu> anyway, we don't care it was just a notice
[07:23] <nickrud> reggaemanu, please on #ubuntu-offtopic I'm there
[07:23] <Cyphir> which u guys think is better amaroK or XMMS
[07:23] <eggzeck> Orborde: no, because the anyone could have created the configuration script.
[07:24] <babo> Has anyone installed skype on ubuntu64 ... ?
[07:24] <fender__> i prefer listen to both :)
[07:24] <mikebot> how do i restart x?
[07:24] <frank_> mikebot: ctrl-alt-backspace is the 'abrupt' way to do it. make sure you close your programs because they will be shut down
[07:24] <tritium> mikebot: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:24] <fender__> it's like asking which is better between win98 and OSX :)
[07:24] <mikebot> oh okay, thanks
[07:24] <eggzeck> Orborde: for example, if I ./configure an ircd, it's not Ubuntus fault if it gives me the error you got :)
[07:24] <reggaemanu> nalioth, we don't need to kick we (especially without notification before) i've stop this conversation, he is wrong and i'm sure of that from the beginning so there is no to continue the troll ^^
[07:24] <nalioth> reggaemanu: you WERE notified
[07:24] <rightcoast> mikebot you could try this if you want mplayer i wrote it for myself
[07:25] <rightcoast> http://pastebin.com/726019
[07:25] <rightcoast> and you could use mplayer -zoom file.avi at the cli
[07:25] <reggaemanu> nalioth, oh, then i'm sorry, i didn't notice
[07:25] <papo> rightcoast i wrote apt-cache show libdvdccs2
[07:25] <rightcoast> there is a fix, i forget it though
[07:25] <mikebot> ah, thanks rightcoast
[07:25] <papo> but it didnt regonize it yet
[07:26] <mikebot> rightcoast, could you p[aste me that in a few minutes?
[07:26] <mikebot> brb
[07:26] <reggaemanu> anyway, i'm going to sleep, it is 07h26 am here, not the moment to trool about a useless subject like that
[07:26] <rightcoast> papo i bet you need a repository
[07:26] <Cyphir> cya
[07:26] <rightcoast> ubuntu gurus, what repo does he need?
[07:26] <papo> mmm
[07:26] <NickGarvey> !repos
[07:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:26] <papo> yeah let me check
[07:26] <toad013> for whaT?
[07:26] <rightcoast> papo see above
[07:27] <frank_> mikebot: did it work?
[07:27] <toad013> vlc and dvd?
[07:27] <mikebot> hey560, so ctrl+alt+backspace didn't fix the video in totem
[07:27] <mikebot> no
[07:27] <mikebot> *hey
[07:27] <papo> yeah toad
[07:27] <Orborde> eggzeck: I wasn't going to file an Ubuntu bug. I'm wondering whether I should email the developers of the thing I was compiling.
[07:27] <papo> i did have the universal
[07:27] <mikebot> i get perfect audio, just blue video
[07:28] <mikebot> i also tried reinstalling totem-xine
[07:28] <fender__> mikebot, do you have non-free codecs installed?
[07:28] <frank_> mikebot: and it recently started? you can try changing the output video setting in the xine configuration
[07:28] <eggzeck> Orborde: oh, I thought you meant an Ubuntu bug, and yes you should.
[07:28] <papo> I am like a 2 year old kid in tokio!
[07:28] <eggzeck> Orborde: because then that would mean it's their flaw :)
[07:28] <papo> haha
[07:28] <rightcoast> papo, multiverse too?
[07:28] <mikebot> fender__, i'm unsure
[07:29] <mikebot> frank_, i don't know how to do that
[07:29] <papo> let me check right coast
[07:29] <babo> When I try to dchroot I get ... su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. ... I've checked for /etc/passwd and its there ... ?
[07:29] <fender__> if it's not an video output prob, then you could try installing all the available codecs from mplayer homepage
[07:29] <papo> i added the multiuniverse
[07:29] <fender__> install it under /usr/lib/win32 and it will be shared between xine/mplayer/gstreamer
[07:30] <mikebot> fender__, i'm afraid i don't follow
[07:30] <fender__> er... there's non-free codecs from mplayer home page
[07:30] <frank_> mikebot: I never really used totem but my strange video blue screens always come back to normal when I restart X
[07:30] <fender__> you can download it and unpack (without directory prefix) it to /usr/lib/win32
[07:30] <mikebot> frank_, ah, ok, thanks
[07:30] <fender__> xine will automatically pick up those codecs then
[07:30] <mikebot> fender__, what about totem though?
[07:31] <fender__> it will work if you use totem-xine
[07:31] <rightcoast> papo "multiverse"
[07:31] <fender__> if you're using gstreamer backend, you need a additional package to use those codecs
[07:31] <mikebot> i don't really know what that means
[07:31] <mikebot> i don't know much about this
[07:31] <fender__> ok :)
[07:32] <fender__> first, make sure it is not video output related problem
[07:32] <rightcoast> if ylou added that, you should be able to sudo apt-get install that libdvdcss2
[07:32] <mikebot> fender__, how do i do that?
[07:32] <mikebot> actually, fender__ , brb
[07:32] <fender__> you can change video output from system > multimedia properties or so
[07:33] <fender__> (urg, i'm using korean locale so i'm not sure how it reads in english desktop :))
[07:33] <Awesome-o2000> will someone please tell me how to get text output out of glxgears
[07:33] <frank_> !glxgears
[07:33] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[07:33] <frank_> ;)
[07:36] <zcat[1] > what's a normal fps ?
[07:36] <papo> multiverse...and then apt-get ....
[07:36] <toad013> apt-get install libdvdcss2
[07:36] <Awesome-o2000> wow, thats nice. Too bad im ditching my ati card - its too much of a pain in the tucchus to get it running in linux, even if I did manage to randomly get it going with ubuntu, theres no comparison to nvidia
[07:37] <rightcoast> papo, no you said you added the multiuniverse, be sure it read multiverse
[07:37] <rightcoast> then apt-get ...
[07:37] <frank_> zcat[1] : Awesome-o2000  glxinfo | grep is a better way to figure out if 3d acceleration is working
[07:37] <frank_> zcat[1] : Awesome-o2000  glxinfo | grep direct     is a better way to figure out if 3d acceleration is working
[07:37] <toad013> i'm running an ati x600 pci-e and compiz/xgl on twin-view and acceleration with no problem
[07:37] <Awesome-o2000> frank_, I just like to watch the pretty wheels spin
[07:37] <zcat[1] > direct rendering: no
[07:38] <zcat[1] > hmm..
[07:38] <thesilentkiller> how do i list all users ?
[07:38] <Awesome-o2000> no mplayer for ubuntu???
[07:39] <tritium> !mplayer
[07:39] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:39] <frank_> !info mplayer
[07:39] <thesilentkiller> anyone...? how do i list all users in my ubuntu box...from the shell
[07:39] <Awesome-o2000> is ubuntu 6.06 stable??
[07:40] <papo>  damn
[07:40] <papo> i must be retarded dudes
[07:40] <frank_> Awesome-o2000: mplayer is in multiverse
[07:40] <toad013> what's going on papo
[07:40] <papo> it says
[07:40] <tritium> Awesome-o2000: on June 1 it will be released
[07:40] <xanavim> Awesome-o2000: no, it's beta
[07:40] <papo> that libdvdcss2 is not available
[07:41] <frank_> papo: libdvdcss2 is not in the ubuntu repos
[07:41] <frank_> !dvd
[07:41] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[07:41] <papo> i typed it in the terminal as you told me
[07:41] <xanavim> frank_: yes it is
[07:41] <spikeb> i could have swore i got it without using seveas
[07:42] <papo> apt-get libdvdcss2
[07:42] <toad013> apt-get install
[07:42] <rightcoast> papo, thisis my first couple days with ubuntu, linux user, new to ubuntu
[07:42] <rightcoast> apologies :D
[07:42] <papo> hahah yeah I am a rookie man
[07:42] <frank_> xanavim: libdvdread3 only is in the ubuntu repos.
[07:42] <toad013> apt-get install libdvdcss3
[07:43] <toad013> 3 or 2?
[07:43] <frank_> !restricted
[07:43] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:43] <rightcoast> i think i used the france repo
[07:43] <toad013> for vlc i think u need libdvdcss2
[07:43] <zcat[1] > btw; just for reference, I recently wanted to get DVD playing to work in Windows .. absoultely NO idea where to start or what to install, google searches turned up nothing but commercial crapware.. in the end all it took was installing klite codec pack but it took me a while to figure that out!
[07:43] <frank_> papo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[07:44] <papo> thanks Frank
[07:44] <UNH2LY> hey everyone
[07:44] <papo> I guess i will have to be visiting this chat a little bit more
[07:44] <UNH2LY> need some help
[07:45] <frank_> papo: no problem
[07:45] <UNH2LY> ...anyone that knows about installing video drivers and such
[07:45] <mikebot> hi frank_
[07:45] <mikebot> sorry
[07:45] <tritium> UNH2LY: which driver?
[07:45] <papo> thats what we I am lloking for
[07:45] <mikebot> can we start over
[07:46] <UNH2LY> tritium, i have an averatec 3750 and its got some low budget onboard video card on it
[07:46] <UNH2LY> i installed qemu and got windows rolling
[07:46] <UNH2LY> and that identified it as a cirrus logic card
[07:46] <frank_> mikebot: for xine? I'm not sure what to do if you always get a blue screen for videos
[07:46] <neal_> Does anyone know how to get skybox to work with skype?
[07:46] <UNH2LY> and i tried installing xserver-xorg....-cirrus
[07:46] <UNH2LY> but i my video still runs horribly
[07:46] <mikebot> frank_, ah, ok
[07:46] <UNH2LY> like, i cant get over 10 fps on most screensavers
[07:47] <UNH2LY> and im running 1024x768
[07:47] <papo> well dudes!! thanks for all your help in this amateur incident!!!
[07:47] <toad013> mikebot, try not using xv
[07:47] <mikebot> fender__, could you help me out?
[07:47] <papo> c ya around fellas!!!!
[07:47] <mikebot> toad013, what is xv?
[07:47] <toad013> it worked me at least
[07:47] <fender__> mikebot, i will try, if it really is the codec related prob
[07:47] <neal_> Does anyone know how to get a skybox to work with skype?
[07:48] <UNH2LY> it seems that ive already installed the package, but it seems that its not set/activated
[07:48] <mikebot> thanks
[07:48] <toad013> gstreamer-properties
[07:48] <toad013> and then on the video tab for output try XWindows (No Xv)
[07:48] <Awesome-o2000> !win32codec
[07:48] <ubotu> Awesome-o2000: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:48] <Awesome-o2000> hmm
[07:48] <UNH2LY> tritium, any ideas?
[07:48] <Awesome-o2000> is there a win32codecs package for ubuntu?
[07:48] <fender__> mikebot, first, try changing video output plugin as toad013 has said and see what happens
[07:49] <tritium> UNH2LY: so you can't get into X at all?
[07:49] <frank_> !tell Awesome-o2000 about w32codecs
[07:49] <mikebot> ok, i changed it to no xv for default sink, still blue
[07:49] <watson540> Awesome-o2000: yes there is
[07:49] <UNH2LY> oh no, x runs, but its graphically slow
[07:49] <UNH2LY> not nearly as quick as it should be
[07:49] <UNH2LY> like screensavers and whanot
[07:50] <toad013> is it just xine?
[07:50] <fender__> mikebot, ok then you could try install codecs, first download codecs from here  -  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[07:50] <xanavim> UNH2LY: it probably isn't using your graphics card then
[07:50] <fender__> mikebot, you can try essential codecs first
[07:50] <UNH2LY> how do i get it to do that
[07:51] <mikebot> ok
[07:51] <UNH2LY> lol im new to linux as of like december
[07:51] <frank_> fender__ mikebot: that is not the easiest way to get codecs and codecs are probably not what is causing the blue screens
[07:51] <UNH2LY> but i plan on making the total switch at some point here
[07:51] <UNH2LY> ive found plenty of guides for installing nvidia/ati cards, but nothing for little company stuff like mine
[07:52] <fender__> frank_, yeah, i wasn't sure if it's codec related problem, so if you could guess the cause other than that, i guess you could guide him with it first :)
[07:52] <mikebot> if it helps, the video in mplayer works
[07:52] <dli_> UNH2LY, for a company, buying intel video sounds better, cheaper, no more driver torture
[07:52] <fender__> frank_, btw, does w32codecs package still available now? i guess marlliat has been dead for sometime now
[07:53] <toad013> mike, oh you know what... there was a problem like this on the boards... but i think it was a resolution problem
[07:53] <mikebot> toad013, oh..well i haven't changed my resolution, and totem worked fine until a couple of days ago
[07:53] <fender__> if mplayer can play video alright, i guess it's not codec problem - they both share the binary codecs
[07:53] <UNH2LY> dli_, its a lappy, and i dont exactly have the money to buy a new one
[07:54] <mikebot> fender__, ah ok
[07:54] <frank_> mikebot: I'd like to try and help you but its too late for tonight.   check what video output driver mplayer is using and use the same in xine
[07:54] <frank_> fender__: wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[07:54] <mikebot> frank_, ok, well thanks a lot
[07:54] <fender__> frank_, ah thanks :) thought it was dead
[07:54] <xanavim> does anyone know a SID to MP3 or OGG converter?  or a way to record the audio stream?
[07:55] <mikebot> how can i check the video driver mplayer is using?
[07:55] <UNH2LY> ...a similar problem
[07:55] <varsendagger> hey how can i changet the color of text in inkscape
[07:55] <frank_> mikebot: in the mplayer settings
[07:55] <UNH2LY> how can i check the video driver X is using
[07:55] <toad013> mike, this is off the xine website, adding Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps"  in the device section of ur xorg.conf
[07:55] <xanavim> UNH2LY: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:55] <mikebot> ah, x11
[07:56] <frank_> UNH2LY: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   in the Driver section
[07:56] <UNH2LY> k, lemme lookie, should i paste?
[07:56] <xanavim> UNH2LY: use the pastebin
[07:56] <mikebot> x11     X11 (XImage/Shm)
[07:56] <mikebot> oh, video codec family: None
[07:57] <toad013> that's the other option in gstreamer-properties
[07:57] <xanavim> UNH2LY: there's also the option of using a lighter-weight window manager
[07:57] <UNH2LY> i really like gnome, and have it quite decked out atm
[07:58] <UNH2LY> its great for my lappy
[07:59] <mikebot> so i guess mplayer isn't using any codec for video?
[07:59] <UNH2LY> xanavim, this should have everything to do with video in it...
[07:59] <UNH2LY> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14245
[07:59] <i3dmaster> how to prevent some apps to be installed when installing a meta package such as xubuntu-desktop?
[08:00] <nickrud> i3dmaster, you can't stop things being installed that are depended upon by xubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <T`2> isn't there a way to improve the start-up screen resolution on ubuntu?
[08:00] <toad013> i don't think its a codec problem because you said mplayer was working fine
[08:00] <T`2> i have ati drivers installed, but it doesn't seem to use them at that stage
[08:01] <xanavim> T`2: yes, it's a grub setting
[08:01] <bon0bo> what do you mean by improve?
[08:01] <i3dmaster> T`2, you can specify vga=xxx into your kernel option
[08:01] <nickrud> T`2, you mean that ugly brown scrolling stuff at startup?
[08:02] <xanavim> UNH2LY: it doesn't look like there is a driver for your card built-in to Ubuntu, but you could try getting one from the vendor and you could also try 16-bit color
[08:02] <Fac51> i'm having a problem with the flash plugin, i'm not able to see text at all on flash objects.... familiar?
[08:02] <xanavim> and/or 15-bit color
[08:02] <toad013> mike, check the xine FAQ they have something about blue screens
[08:02] <mikebot> !xine
[08:02] <ubotu> mikebot: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:02] <mikebot> toad013, thanks
[08:03] <T`2> nickrud, haha yea
[08:03] <xanavim> UNH2LY: your X is using vesa, which is a generic video card driver
[08:03] <nickrud> Fac51, I haven't had that problem, but there are some fixes documented on https//wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , look for flash
[08:03] <UNH2LY> xanavim, how do i tell what video driver is in here... windows in qemu said cirrus logic
[08:03] <Fac51> nickrud: thanks
[08:03] <T`2> i3dmaster, well, but the ati drivers are kernel modules, will it be able to load it early and use them?
[08:04] <mikebot> toad013, where is that faq?
[08:04] <xanavim> UNH2LY: I don't remember
[08:04] <i3dmaster> T`2, during bootup, kernel doesn't use ati driver to use framebuffer
[08:04] <noiesmo> anyone here got a linux box running on DAC960 raid controlle
[08:04] <Fac51> nickrud: it forwarded to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS
[08:05] <xanavim> T`2: your grub settings determine the boot resolution
[08:05] <T`2> i3dmaster, ok, i was curious because fedora guys do it somehow
[08:05] <T`2> xanavim, yea, but i dunno if this card supports any better vesa modes
[08:05] <T`2> i guess i'll give it a shot
[08:05] <andreetje> morning; question: my update killed the X- restarted it automatic but update is hanging says the system, also after an reboot.
[08:05] <T`2> right now its pretty bad though ;) looks like atari
[08:05] <T`2> hehe
[08:05] <xanavim> T`2: ubuntu boots at 640x480 unless you specify a different resolution in grub
[08:06] <xanavim> T`2: chances are you can do better than 640x480
[08:06] <nickrud> Fac51, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-c02d7ec888c401b9b82b98a7d7630cba5a21792b
[08:06] <Fac51> nickrud: worked, thanks
[08:06] <xanavim> is there a way to record the sound stream sent to ALSA?
[08:07] <T`2> xanavim, ah ok.. also i notice gdm uses different resolution for X than what i see when i do startx
[08:07] <T`2> xanavim, any idea why this might happen?
[08:07] <xanavim> T`2: no, don't know about that one
[08:07] <xanavim> the boot parameter is vga=xxx, though, where xxx is an integer
[08:08] <xanavim> T`2: it's passed as a kernel parameter in grub's menu.lst file
[08:09] <T`2> looking
[08:10] <T`2> the menu.lst is weird .. all sorta comments on not to edit things yourself
[08:10] <T`2> if i add vga=xxx will it get lost when i install a newer kernel?
[08:10] <Cyphir> anyone know the command to compile a c source code?
[08:10] <xanavim> you would add it to the end of the line which looks like: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash
[08:10] <xanavim> T`2: you should save a backup, and make sure you get the right number for vga=
[08:10] <nickrud> T`2, it might, you should always review /boot/grub/menu.lst after installing a new kernel
[08:11] <T`2> xanavim, yea, but will it be lost when i do a apt-get
[08:11] <T`2> nickrud, ok cool
[08:11] <T`2> thanks
[08:11] <xanavim> T`2: just save the number and put it back when Ubuntu wipes it out
[08:11] <T`2> xanavim, painful :/
[08:13] <elknof1> !dvd::rip
[08:13] <elknof1> !dvdrip
[08:13] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elknof1
[08:14] <xanavim> T`2: hmm... menu.lst has instructions for leaving options there but I didn't read it until now
[08:14] <elknof1> hey hi everybody..  does anybody knows about a manual for using dvd::rip??
[08:14] <T`2> cool.. 0x31b works great.. 1280x1024 :)
[08:17] <xanavim> sweet, I just modified my menu.lst so the vga setting won't get wiped out  (:
[08:17] <T`2> ooh nice
[08:17] <T`2> how?
[08:17] <xanavim> it's the kopt=root/dev/  etc.
[08:18] <T`2> duh
[08:18] <T`2> i should have read.. they have an example with vga=
[08:18] <T`2> defoptions=quiet splash..
[08:18] <T`2> adding a vga=0x31b there :)
[08:19] <odat> anyone know how to fix thunderbird compose mail not working
[08:20] <T`2> odat, whats the prob
[08:20] <T`2> odat, did u update only firefox and not thunderbird or something?
[08:21] <megasquid> can anyone recommend a good panel besides gnome and kde?
[08:21] <bon0bo> yab.
[08:21] <odat> T`2, when i click on compose in order to send an email its says it can't open the compose window and to try again
[08:22] <T`2> odat, did u first try up date thunderbird?
[08:23] <T`2> i had taht prob, but i updated and it went away
[08:23] <Cyphir> can anyone help me with a c problem
[08:23] <megasquid> bon0bo: is that a panel?
[08:23] <xanavim> Cyphir: if I can't, you could ask on ##c
[08:24] <T`2> heh.. segfault ;0
[08:24] <odat> T`2, well i just reinstalled and it still doesn't work
[08:25] <T`2> odat, hmm, may be u can see if it gives u any error messages, start thunderbird from a terminal window
[08:25] <T`2> and see if u see and messages or warning,e tc.
[08:26] <Cyphir> when compiling a c source should i use gcc or cc?
[08:26] <tritium> Cyphir: same thing
[08:27] <Cyphir> tritium: thanks im hopeless whenit comes to C and the like =P
[08:27] <tritium> Cyphir: if you're building stuff, you'll likely want to install build-essential
[08:28] <Cyphir> tritium: already have, thanks though
[08:28] <tritium> Cyphir: good :)
[08:28] <Cyphir> grrr stupid errors lol
[08:28] <tritium> Good night...
[08:28] <Cyphir> cya
[08:30] <ferronica> any one here using Creative sound card
[08:30] <ferronica> how to cinfigure it in ubuntu HELP!
[08:30] <narg> Is there a tool to take a text file and wrap it at 80 columns?
[08:31] <ferronica> how do i confirm by default it is being used my ubuntu
[08:31] <ferronica> any one here
[08:31] <eclair> narg, i think you could set that in your editor? maybe like using emacs or something?
[08:32] <ferronica> HELP!!!
[08:33] <scheuri> hi all
[08:33] <ferronica> ubotu: sound card
[08:33] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[08:33] <ferronica> ubotu: creative sound card
[08:33] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[08:33] <ferronica> ubotu: sound
[08:33] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:34] <serp> how come firefox needs exclusive access to my sound card?
[08:34] <Awesome-o2000> serp, flash
[08:34] <serp> it would be cooler if it used alsa
[08:34] <Awesome-o2000> agreed.
[08:34] <serp> oh, so it's only flash that uses oss?
[08:35] <Cyphir> anyone know what [-s src_addr]  [-p port]  dest_addr
[08:35] <Cyphir>  means and how i would use it?
[08:35] <Awesome-o2000> serp, my apologies - I should have stated I was taking a guess
[08:35] <serp> Cyphir: what command?
[08:35] <scheuri> Cyphir: that is a common explanation how to use a command on CLI
[08:36] <Cryptid> hey i am geting an error in synaptic that looks like this "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)" what am i to do??
[08:36] <T`2> if i'm doing a mount as root in ubunto, how do i make it such that i can access all that data as local user?
[08:36] <babo> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[08:36] <scheuri> Cyphir: -s is a option to this command which needs to be followed by the source-adress
[08:36] <serp> Awesome-o2000: actually there seems to be a way to get flash to use alsa
[08:36] <serp> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/29760 read comment 2
[08:36] <Awesome-o2000> serp, nice
[08:36] <babo> ... i should be able to find skype.deb in their right ?
[08:36] <Cyphir> scheuri: ahh i see
[08:36] <T`2> is the onlyway to change permissions of each file on that partition to my user?
[08:37] <Cyphir> scheuri: im guessing the -p is for port but what does desr_addr mean?
[08:37] <scheuri> Cyphir: the stuffin brackets []  are options and the kind of values you need to provide those options
[08:37] <babo> Hi guys, where will I find the skype .deb installation ?
[08:37] <babo> for apt-get hoary ...
[08:37] <scheuri> Cyphir: desr_addr...I guess that means destination address
[08:37] <T`2> babo, did u check their site?
[08:37] <T`2> skype.com
[08:38] <scheuri> babo: skype.com does provide .deb packages
[08:38] <ferronica> ubotu: sound
[08:38] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:38] <Cyphir> scheuri: do u think u could show an example, like what it would look like? thanks
[08:38] <ferronica> any one here using Creative sound card
[08:38] <babo> T`2: yes, I'd prefer if synaptic did if for me though ... is there a package in the multiverse ... or backports ?
[08:38] <scheuri> Cyphir: if you tell me what command I may be able to
[08:38] <Cyphir> scheri: lemme check
[08:39] <scheuri> babo...its on their webside to download...you need to download and install manually
[08:39] <scheuri> babo...use the dpkg command (dpkg -i [packagename] ) as sudo or root
[08:39] <ferronica> any one here using Creative sound card
[08:39] <scheuri> babo...as far as I know there is no deb in multiverse or universe from skype...
[08:40] <Cyphir> schueri: Thanks i got it now!
[08:40] <Cyphir> scheuri: i was lieaving dest_addr blank
[08:40] <scheuri> Cyphir: ah,I see...:)
[08:40] <elknof1> can anybody recommend me a easy dvd ripping program??
[08:40] <babo> scheuri: it needs the qt libraries ...
[08:40] <Cyphir> scheruri: =P
[08:40] <babo> skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>); however:
[08:40] <babo>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[08:40] <babo>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[08:40] <scheuri> elknof1: dvdrip...for example...(hope I remember the name correctly)
[08:41] <ferronica>  How to install Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client ?
[08:41] <ferronica>  How to install Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client ?
[08:41] <Tidus> aptitude install rp-pppoe
[08:41] <scheuri> babo...then you need to install those packages using apt-get or aptitude
[08:41] <elknof1> scheuri: lol im a total newbie...   dvd::rip is like impossible for me, but do you know of any other choices??
[08:42] <scheuri> elknof1: I am sorry...no, I dont
[08:42] <Tidus> elknof1: the only other one i can think of is acidrip, which is a frontend to mencoder
[08:42] <Cryptid> Can some one help me out i think my synaptic is broken it dosent install any software it gives me a error that looks like this "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[08:42] <babo> scheuri: yes, I'm dependency chasing as we speak :-(
[08:42] <Tidus> it's fairly easy to use
[08:42] <elknof1> scheuri: thanx
[08:42] <scheuri> babo: ah, I see....there are some...but should not be many
[08:43] <scheuri> elknof1: welcome
[08:43] <scheuri> Cryptid: does a apt-get update or aptitude update work?
[08:46] <ferronica>  How to install Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client ?
[08:46] <ferronica>  How to install Broadband ADSL/PPPoE Client ?
[08:46] <elknof1> scheuri: i dont want to irk you, but do you know how to enable the s-video out for ATI -i have the drivers already installed-
[08:46] <Tidus> ferronica: please dont spam, and i posted how earlier
[08:47] <ferronica> i think i missed
[08:47] <scheuri> elknof1: sorry...I am on nvidia and s3 mostly...cant say anything about ati...sorry
[08:47] <Tidus> 'sudo aptitude install rp-pppoe'
[08:47] <elknof1> scheuri: thanx anyway
[08:47] <ferronica> Tidus; Address me otherwise i will miss ur posting
[08:47] <Tidus> ferronica: 'sudo aptitude install rp-pppoe'
[08:50] <bestadvocate> hey guys I got some, what I find to be slightly humerous, news
[08:50] <pineapple> how do I gain access to my windows partition?
[08:50] <babo> scheuri: can you have a look at this dependency circle for me ... ?  http://pastebin.com/726084
[08:51] <bestadvocate> it seems that the new yahoo home page has an optional color scheme that fits the currant "Human" theme
[08:51] <spikeb> haha
[08:51] <spikeb> bestadvocate: nice
[08:53] <T`2> babo, dunno.. sorry
[08:59] <livingdaylight> anyone here use tv cards or usb model even?
[09:01] <babo> what's the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ... ?
[09:02] <spikeb>  /usr/local/bin is for stuff you install by hand
[09:02] <babo> what's the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ... ?
[09:02] <babo> oops ... sorry ... sp
[09:02] <babo> thanks spikeb
[09:02] <livingdaylight> can somoene give me advice on tv tuners?
[09:03] <livingdaylight> darn...
[09:14] <Ademan> how come in synaptic whenever i check nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings   nvidia-glx gets unchecked?
[09:14] <babo> How do I check whether I have a package installed already ?
[09:15] <babo> And also, what's the apt command to search for a library inside of a package ... ?
[09:15] <nickrud> babo, dpkg -l <packagename> should show ii in the first columns ...
[09:16] <nickrud> babo, and if you would install apt-file, it provides a way to find any file that ubuntu can provide
[09:16] <rencrash> how can i browse a ntfs harddrive?
[09:18] <babo> nickrud :   apt-file: Depends: libconfigfile-perl but it is not going to be installed
[09:18] <babo>             Depends: libapt-pkg-perl but it is not going to be installed
[09:19] <rencrash> how do i browse and mount a nfts partition/harddrive?
[09:19] <nickrud> babo, herm. you need the universe repository enabled, see
[09:19] <nickrud> !universe
[09:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:20] <babo> nickrud: but I already have ... in my sources.list
[09:20] <nickrud> rencrash, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions has some info on that
[09:20] <babo> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[09:20] <babo> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:20] <babo> that should cover it right ?
[09:21] <dooglus> !ntfs
[09:21] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:21] <rencrash> nickrud,  thanks
[09:21] <flapane> hi
[09:21] <flapane> i have to reinstall windows but in this way i'll lose grub boot
[09:21] <flapane> how can i reinstall grub after reinstalling win?
[09:21] <nickrud> babo, yes it should. according to breezy (the oldest distro I have to check, anyway)
[09:23] <flapane> noone?
[09:23] <dli_> flapane, you need a livecd (ubuntu installcd is okay)
[09:23] <flapane> and then grub-insall dev/sda right?
[09:23] <nickrud> flapane, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:24] <flapane> tnxs
[09:24] <dli_> if you boot with " root=/dev/blahblah ", yes
[09:24] <flapane> yes
[09:24] <babo> nickrud: so where will i track down these then ?
[09:24] <babo>         libGL.so.1 => not found
[09:24] <babo>         libXmu.so.6 => not found
[09:25] <flapane> damn the fancy thing is that
[09:25] <flapane> i deleted the cd iso image from my hd
[09:25] <flapane> because i needed more space..
[09:25] <flapane> just yesterday
[09:26] <flapane> i hope i can still find the burned cd...
[09:26] <babo> nickrud: I can find the rpm on google ...
[09:26] <greg_> can anyone tellme how to open and what to do  after downloading blender with bittorrent?
[09:26] <dli_> flapane, you may also boot from liveusb
[09:27] <flapane> ah right? yes it could be a great idea!
[09:27] <flapane> so i'll downloads only a 100mb image
[09:27] <flapane> and grub-install command will take menu.lst from my ubuntu partition
[09:27] <flapane> many tnx for your idea
[09:28] <xukun> how do I change the default video files play from totem to mplayer?
[09:28] <cheziyi> join #ubuntu
[09:29] <cheziyi> xukun, you can try repeating your question
[09:30] <nickrud> Babacom, had to walk away for sec. Just what is it you're trying to d?
[09:30] <nickrud> babo, erm ^^
[09:31] <rencrash> what is the diffrence between default installation and server installation?
[09:31] <flapane> maybe mysql, php etc etc
[09:31] <nickrud> rencrash, having a graphical desktop or not
[09:32] <rencrash> nickrud, can i run server apps on a default installation?
[09:32] <nickrud> rencrash, yes.
[09:32] <rencrash> thank you
[09:33] <xukun> cheziyi, totem is the default video file paly. I need to make Mplayer the default
[09:33] <babo> nickrud: ?? ... unfortunately alien won't install either ...
[09:34] <flapane> eh???
[09:34] <nickrud> !info alien
[09:34] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[09:34] <nickrud> babo, you have truly twisted sources :)
[09:35] <babo> alien won't install because of the dependency issues ...
[09:35] <babo> gosh, why does everything have to be SO hard ...
[09:35] <nickrud> babo, you could either post your sources on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for me to use or simply use
[09:35] <nickrud> !repos
[09:35] <flapane> why hard?
[09:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:35] <flapane> alien doesn't have issues
[09:36] <babo> nickrud: but I thought you said that my sources.list file was adequate for the multiverse ... ?
[09:36] <nickrud> babo, post them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:36] <nickrud> babo, I've never seen yours
[09:37] <xukun> when I put dvd movie totem starts it to play. I want to change this to be Mplayer
[09:37] <nickrud> babo, that I remember that is
[09:37] <xukun> how can I Just do that?
[09:37] <babo> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/726116  ... thanks :-)
[09:37] <rencrash> cant play avi files?
[09:38] <greg_> goodnite
[09:38] <flapane> goodmorning:)
[09:38] <nickrud> xukun, System-Preferences-Removable drives & media
[09:39] <cheziyi> good afternoon XD
[09:40] <flapane> and afternooon for yaXD
[09:40] <rencrash> i cant play mpg or avi it tells me : There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:40] <rencrash> ?
[09:40] <flapane> try win32codecs
[09:40] <flapane> or use vlc
[09:40] <rencrash> oks thanks
[09:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> Does anybody know of a general purpose programming channel? I'm writing some C and I'm curious to poll some people about compiler design.
[09:41] <nickrud> babo, oh, right, hoary. I don't see anything wrong with your sources (small light & to the point) Have you done an apt-get update ?
[09:41] <cheziyi> rencrash, you also need to get the gstreamer stuff
[09:42] <Bilford> was there a major upgrade today
[09:42] <Hobbsee> Bilford: kernel upgrade, yes
[09:42] <Bilford> thats what I thought
[09:42] <Hobbsee> Sir_Fawnpug: try in #c
[09:42] <rencrash> what is automatrix?
[09:43] <DBO> !automatix
[09:43] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> Hobbsee, thanks man
[09:43] <cheziyi> hm... i find easyubuntu a bit buggy
[09:43] <DBO> its better than automatix
[09:44] <nickrud> all those external scripts have their issues. If it was easy, ubuntu would already have it.
[09:44] <cheziyi> do everything youself XD
[09:44] <DBO> easyubuntu is MUCH safer, automatix is an exemple of just because you can doesnt mean you should...
[09:44] <nickrud> cheziyi, +1
[09:45] <cheziyi> rencrash, doing everything yourself isn't that hard.. you have you nice friend google
[09:45] <rencrash> :)
[09:46] <cheziyi> i did everything myself too when i started out on linux (too me a lot of time though)
[09:46] <Bilford> add an Ubuntu Forums search plugin to FF
[09:46] <rencrash> things like that automatrix doesnt tell you that its harmfull
[09:46] <rencrash> like knowing what other ppl suggest
[09:47] <rencrash> so i dont stuff up everything in the first 5 min heh:P
[09:47] <Javi> SOS! how can I make ubuntu support my serial mouse
[09:47] <babo> nickrud: yes ... I did an update. I've got alien now. It turns out I had some broken dependencies on my system ...
[09:47] <babo> So I've alien'd the rpm and when I try to install it I get ...
[09:47] <babo> dpkg: error processing xorg-x11-libs_6.8.2-38_i386.deb (--install):
[09:47] <babo>  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XErrorDB', which is also in package xlibs-data
[09:47] <babo> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:48] <nickrud> babo, oh, don't do that. upgrade to breezy for xorg 6.8
[09:49] <babo> nickrud, I'm on 64bit breezy badger (I think), I'm just installing hoary in chroot so that I can get skype to work ...
[09:49] <cheziyi> Javi, you can try a google search
[09:50] <babo> I've been trying to install skype on my system now for almost 3 months ... :-( ... on and off ... there have been ridiculously large amounts of errors. I've tried it at least 6 different ways.
[09:50] <babo> I mean this is skype we're talking about ... everyone uses skype ...
[09:51] <babo> depressing ...
[09:52] <flapane> babo very strange i know lot of ppl even with a 64bit distro
[09:52] <flapane> can install it
[09:53] <babo> flapane: yes indeed ... I guess I'm just lucky then ...
[09:54] <flapane> who knows
[09:55] <makda> How do I get my system to print ?
[09:55] <|lostbyte|> TO upgrade to dapper, I should use the dapper source.list right ?
[09:57] <Bilford> I think just replace all the breezy in sources with dapper
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> Bilford: Alright !
[09:58] <|lostbyte|> and tx
[09:58] <Bilford> fresh install is best though, imo
[09:59] <babo> ok, so I want to kill chroot and start over again ... but it seems proc is busy and won't be unmounted ...rm: cannot remove `proc/vmnet/hub8.2': Operation not permitted
[10:00] <Bilford> I just installed a whole new operating system (kernel), and I dont have to reboot?
[10:00] <flapane> you're making confusion btwn kernel and os
[10:01] <Bilford> it was sort of metaphorical
[10:01] <flapane> ah
[10:01] <Bilford> in Windows, if you install a tiny callculator, you have to reboot
[10:01] <flapane> that's why from microsoft
[10:01] <Bilford> Windows makes you reboot for everything
[10:02] <T`2> damnit!!1
[10:02] <serp> hehe
[10:02] <T`2> touchpad doesn't work
[10:02] <serp> that's not nearly correct
[10:02] <T`2> just started to happen that way
[10:02] <flapane> i tried updating gui with a mac-style
[10:02] <flapane> i rebooted 40times
[10:02] <T`2> anyone know how to fix this?
[10:02] <Bilford> someone said Windows Vista will require 25 gb
[10:03] <flapane> only?
[10:03] <Bilford> lol
[10:03] <Kamo> Which server would be best to look for an rpg room?
[10:04] <flapane> i'd say to uncle bill gates that my ubuntu requires 1600mb and it's complete with everything expcept games
[10:04] <jhv> ain't dapper drake supposed to support most wlan cards?
[10:05] <Kamo> !dvd
[10:05] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:05] <`paul> how do i know if my ssh server is running?
[10:05] <`paul> !ssh
[10:05] <ubotu> well, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:05] <ompaul> `paul, ssh -C<EMAIL_ADDRESS>should work
[10:06] <jhv> where can i disable join/part messages?
[10:06] <jhv> im using xchat
[10:06] <`paul> i mean i cant connect from outside into my computer
[10:06] <`paul> try settings->pref jhv
[10:06] <ompaul> `paul, have you two machines on the local network
[10:06] <flapane> my realplayer32bit can play video and audio on my 64bit distro but....
[10:06] <`paul> yup
[10:06] <flapane> video is not syncronized with audio
[10:07] <flapane> like 2 or 3 FPS
[10:07] <`paul> i can ssh from ubuntu going outside
[10:07] <`paul> but when im on another computer i cant connect to my pc
[10:07] <flapane> why?i can't manage to
[10:07] <`paul> so i gues my ssh server is not running or sumthin
[10:07] <ompaul> `paul, have you installed it?
[10:08] <`paul> how do i check if its installed?
[10:08] <`paul> :(
[10:08] <jhv> paul, theres no such option :(
[10:08] <ompaul>  sudo apt-get install openssh-server    <<< run that in a terminal and if it installs its not installed if it does not install then you have other issues
[10:09] <ompaul> `paul, ^^
[10:09] <`paul> waaa ompaul ive seen it in add/remove programs its not installed
[10:10] <`paul> my problem is i dont have the cd... and im behind a firewall
[10:10] <`paul> ill try if apt-get would work
[10:10] <flapane> so open apt port
[10:10] <flapane> on iptables
[10:10] <flapane> or your hardware firewall
[10:10] <`paul> whoah...
[10:10] <`paul> how?
[10:10] <T`2> why isn't there a root shell in ubunto?
[10:10] <ompaul> `paul, run that command first
[10:10] <T`2> this sudo is very weird.. every other distro has root
[10:10] <spikeb> !rootsudo
[10:10] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:11] <flapane> T'2 try su root
[10:11] <ompaul> `paul, usually (any reasonable) firewall opens connections outward bound
[10:11] <Bilford> one thing is broken in the updater?
[10:11] <T`2> flapane, yea, but i dont see whats the advantage
[10:12] <`paul> waaaa therers a new error
[10:12] <`paul> wtf?? T_T
[10:12] <flapane> i need only sudo, not root, so it's ok for my necessities
[10:12] <T`2> hmm ok
[10:12] <`paul> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[10:12] <flapane> anyway su root could work
[10:12] <ompaul> flapane, that won't work because as the bot said ROOT is disabled :-)
[10:12] <jhv>     /set irc_conf_mode 1
[10:12] <`paul> oh my add-remove prog is open got it
[10:12] <flapane> flapane@a64:~$ su root
[10:12] <flapane> Password:
[10:12] <flapane> root@a64:/home/flapane#
[10:12] <ompaul> `paul, you got synaptic open close it
[10:12] <`paul> yep yep
[10:12] <serp> what's the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[10:13] <ompaul> serp, gk is for gnome applications
[10:13] <serp> ah
[10:13] <flapane> it worked to me
[10:13] <`paul> ompaul: it asks for the CD T_T
[10:13] <serp> ompaul: why do they need a special sudo command?
[10:14] <ompaul> serp, for some reason I don't know
[10:14] <serp> ok :)
[10:14] <jhv> anyone care to help me get my wlan card working?
[10:14] <Bilford> whats new in the new kernel
[10:14] <flapane> naw i got errors with my iptables script with 2.6.16
[10:14] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:14] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[10:14] <flapane> so downgraded to .15
[10:15] <jhv> ive got travelmate 2301LCi with a bcm 9418 wlan card
[10:15] <`paul> ompaul: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ph.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:15] <jhv> and dapper drake does not detect it
[10:15] <`paul> T_T
[10:16] <makda> What is the command to check wether Breezy Badger or Dapper is running ?
[10:16] <ompaul> `paul, so in the terminal and without `waaaa` do this, >> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list<<  and stop with the extra lines of text please, this channel is too busy :-)
[10:16] <ompaul> makda, lsb_release -d
[10:16] <g0dchild> Hi, i have cupsd installed but i cant access it through the web interface
[10:17] <T`2> is /etc/passwd- a backup file?
[10:17] <`paul> is it the same with apt-get update?
[10:17] <ompaul> `paul, I do not understand your question, it is done in a terminal
[10:18] <`paul> it suggests to run apt-get update first
[10:18] <makda> ompaul: Thanks
[10:18] <`paul> i typed it and its downloading stuffs maybe after the update ill try installing openssh again
[10:18] <ompaul> `paul, your not doing what I requested;  >> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list<<
[10:19] <livingdaylight> ompaul: the sound of Om apparently is a primordial sound of healing
[10:19] <flapane> so payl search in the wiki for the newest sources list...
[10:19] <para_site> why is there no setenv command on my Ubuntu ?
[10:19] <`paul> sorry, ive already typed the aptget update before ive read your suggestion.. shoul i abort?
[10:19] <g0dchild> !cups
[10:19] <ubotu> [cups]  The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[10:19] <luke> anyone know a good iPod client for ubuntu? i need to WRITE a song to it
[10:20] <JDahl> para_site, with BASH (the default shell) you use "export"
[10:20] <ompaul> `paul, do as you wish, if you have put in the CD then it will work and that command I gave is not needed
[10:20] <flapane> xpod? i remember something like this
[10:20] <para_site> export ENVV_VARIABLE=something ?
[10:20] <spikeb> gtkpod, amarok, banshee, can all do that
[10:20] <para_site> si that it ?
[10:20] <JDahl> para_site, exactly
[10:20] <para_site> thanks
[10:20] <`paul> may i ask what is that command for???
[10:21] <ompaul> g0dchild, mostly I have seen people configure printers from within ubuntu with system administration printing
[10:21] <flapane> nano is an editor
[10:21] <ompaul> `paul, it was to remove your machine looking for the CD
[10:21] <`paul> oh.. heh... im using joe
[10:21] <`paul> ive already removed it
[10:22] <ompaul> livingdaylight, that may be, but right now I am not feeling very healing :-)
[10:22] <`paul> now its downloading openssh thanks.....
[10:22] <kane777> hi all ubuntu lovers
[10:22] <Cyphir> hey
[10:22] <jhv> gah, ive got thre laptops, and ubuntu does not support the wlan card on any of them!
[10:22] <Quinch> Quick question, if I may; can someone recommend me a lightweight screen capture program? I'm basically looking for hotkey support and auto-saving according to either capture time or serial number.
[10:22] <flapane> no shots about my realplayer issues?
[10:23] <babo> I'm trying to remove a chroot filesystem and it keeps telling me that proc and dev are busy. I've gone through the processes and umounted the devices ... I don't know what else to do ... HELP pls ...
[10:23] <Quinch> Kane777: I'm not an Ubuntu lover yet. I'm more like Ubuntu's b***h. :p
[10:23] <kane777> Quinch, no worries you'd become...
[10:23] <joh> Sigh, you *can't* ship a new kernel without supplying the equivalent linux-restricted-modules :( Sure, it's on Dapper which is under development, but still... Now I have to install the nvidia driver from the installer :/
[10:25] <ompaul> Quinch, the print screen button or from the menu, system take screenshot you can use istanbul (from the universe repo)
[10:25] <nickrud> babo, I got called away abruptly. Are you ok now?
[10:25] <Quinch> ompaul: Istambul; thanks.
[10:25] <babo> nickrud: hmm ... no not really ... :-(
[10:25] <ompaul> Quinch, s/m/n
[10:25] <kane777> is there a way to set some keyboard shortcut for changing the desktops...???
[10:26] <Quinch> ompaul: What the who?
[10:26] <ompaul> Quinch, istanbul (from the universe repo)
[10:26] <Quinch> kane777: Go to system\preferences\keyboard shortcuts and setz it there. I've set mine on winkey1-4.
[10:26] <g0dchild> Hello- can someone pls help? I cant access my CUPS web interface- it says 'access denied' :S
[10:27] <Quinch> ompaul: No, I meant the s/m/n thing... what did that mean?
[10:27] <ompaul> Quinch, your spelling was wrong replace m with n
[10:27] <blue-frog> I installed timeoutd on my breezy, what command should I execute o run it at boot time? (update-rc?
[10:27] <Quinch> Ohhhh.
[10:28] <flapane> ompaul how can i activate my multimedia keys on keyboard
[10:28] <nickrud> babo, installing X from anything from the repos will be a problem. If you're looking for a later X, you probably should upgrade to a tater version
[10:28] <flapane> like volume on
[10:28] <flapane> www
[10:28] <flapane> mail
[10:28] <flapane> etc etc
[10:28] <ompaul> flapane, stop spamming the channel
[10:28] <nickrud> erm, later version of ubuntu :)
[10:29] <flapane> don't be exxagerate...
[10:29] <flapane> i didn't spam.....
[10:29] <ompaul> you are
[10:29] <flapane> ok
[10:29] <tcs> Hello
[10:30] <Quinch> Oh, hell, while I'm here... can someone point me to a good resource about understanding Linux in general? I don't mean as in "how to" but more along the lines of "how does"... since having some actual understanding about the OS would sure beat having to annoy you every time I have trouble telling my arse from my elbow.
[10:30] <tcs> I have done an install of kubuntu dapper
[10:30] <flapane> so doesn anyone know how to activate them?
[10:30] <ompaul> now wrt multimediakeys they work in dapper for any keyboard I have no idea about 5.10
[10:30] <tcs> But I would like to install the kernel sources so that I can compile a driver
[10:30] <Unenvarjo> flapane, look up your keyboard hotkeys.
[10:30] <flapane> i've dapper
[10:30] <flapane> but from a few days
[10:30] <tcs> How can I do that?
[10:30] <ompaul> flapane, well then go to the channel #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[10:30] <flapane> maybe there's some place i don't know
[10:30] <flapane> ok
[10:31] <LathropWells> OUCH! My bios was corrupted while building and installing the  nVidia binary.(gcc 4.0 installed should of been 3.4.)      - Is reinstalling windows the only option to reflash it with the manufacturers  *.exe file?
[10:31] <ompaul> Quinch, the little "lifebouy" type red and white icon has a good beginners guide for ubuntu
[10:32] <spikeb> LathropWells: no, you can make a boot floppy or cd for that
[10:32] <Quinch> ompaul: I know that one. I've gone through it. I'm not looking for Ubuntu-specific, but how the whole thing works under the hood, as it were.
[10:32] <nickrud> Quinch http://tldp.org, there's a lot of docs there. I'd suggest starting with the bash guides
[10:32] <Quinch> nickrud: Thanks, I'll take a look.
[10:32] <tcs> How can I install the kernel sources for kubuntu?
[10:32] <ompaul> Quinch, well there is help.ubuntu.com wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <ompaul> !cli
[10:32] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:32] <ompaul> Quinch, ^^^
[10:32] <LathropWells> Using reset to bios defaults doesn't seem to fix it. logs show bios checksum error. after a minute or two the computerrudely  turns itself off.
[10:33] <Quinch> Thanksthanks.
[10:33] <ompaul> nickrud, which one?
[10:33] <nickrud> ompaul, the one you where trying to answer :)
[10:33] <LathropWells> spikeb - can i use just any boot floppy? say a win 98 floppy?
[10:34] <spikeb> LathropWells: anything that'll give you a dos environment sufficient enough to run the flash util
[10:34] <ompaul> LathropWells, you need to get freedos (11megs) and then you can boot the box with a dos shell do you trust microsoft to do that ...
[10:35] <tcs> DOES ANYONE KNOW?
[10:35] <LathropWells> Cool. - sometime i forget the trust linux gives the user should of read the binary installer text more closely. - heh.  Thank You spikeb
[10:35] <ompaul> !patience
[10:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:35] <LathropWells> Thank you too ompaul
[10:36] <tcs> lol he he j/k
[10:36] <LathropWells> lol
[10:36] <ompaul> tcs, first off it is a dapper question, and you may have noticed the dapper channel is #ubuntu+1 this might be why I did not say sudo apt-get install linux-image
[10:36] <DBO> tcs, you can install the kernel source with linux-tree (breezy) or kernel-source (dapper)
[10:36] <jonah> hi guys - i've had so many wifi problems i've ended up buying a new pcmcia card which was recommended in the ubuntu forums - only it doesn't work! can anyone please help me?
[10:37] <tcs> Ok both thank you very much!
[10:37] <ompaul> tcs, as DBO said actually -tree
[10:37] <LathropWells> Alls well, gave me a chance to add a bit more ram. i think now  i have the only 5 year old computer with a gig. - rofl
[10:37] <tcs> thanks
[10:37] <DBO> morning Paul =)
[10:37] <ompaul> DBO morning
[10:39] <jonah> my new card is a netgear wg511T and at least the light flashes on it occasionally! But it's not in my network settings list
[10:39] <tcs> Hmmmm..... linux-source-2.6.15
[10:39] <tcs> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages
[10:40] <tcs> ok srry im @ ubuntu+1
[10:41] <blue-frog> I installed timeoutd on my breezy, I have a scripttiemoutd in /etc/init.d. what command must I use to run timeoutd at boot time, pls? (udate-rc?)
[10:41] <jonah> dli, remember me? you helped me with my wifi connection and i went to bed!! but when i came back and you'd finished it still wasn't working - well i've ended up buying a different pcmcia card which was recommended and that doesn't work either but at least the light comes on!
[10:41] <DBO> tcs, oops your right, linux, not kernel... doh
[10:42] <DBO> blue-frog, "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf" then "sudo sysv-rc-conf"
[10:42] <blue-frog> ty
[10:43] <DBO> jonah, does anything show up in ifconfig?
[10:44] <blue-frog> DB0 ah sysv rc conf is a gui anyway i can only use command line?
[10:44] <babo> so it turns out that I have erased my /home directory by accident ...
[10:45] <babo> what should I do now ... ?
[10:45] <DBO> blue-frog, ok, yeah, then its just update-rc.d
[10:45] <jonah> DBO if i type that i get about 8 lines of stuff,
[10:45] <jonah> DBO all under the heading lo
[10:45] <blue-frog> DB0 oh ok then all new scripts that have been added to /etc/init.d will taken in count, correct?
[10:46] <DBO> jonah, have you tried rebooting since you inserted this card?
[10:46] <DBO> blue-frog, yesh
[10:46] <doniv> hi guys, need some help with jdk installation on amd64
[10:46] <jonah> DBO yeah tried that
[10:46] <blue-frog> cool ty
[10:46] <doniv> i've already RTFM
[10:46] <dli> jonah, yes
[10:46] <cth23> hi
[10:47] <doniv> still get the same problem - No matching plugin found :(
[10:47] <jonah> dli, hi again
[10:47] <dli> jonah, you your rt2500 should work
[10:47] <DBO> jonah, ok, I hate to say this, but I would love to see your kernel log and you dmesg output if you dont mind =)
[10:48] <dli> jonah, first, "lspci" shows the card now