[00:00] <sentriz|netbook> does anyone know the name of  the package for the default ubuntu movie player? i wanna remove it
[00:00] <sentriz|netbook> does anyone know the name of  the package for the default ubuntu movie player? i wanna remove it
[00:00] <ProfessorBacon> anyone able to run unity without random freezing?
[00:01] <sentriz|netbook> how to find the name of a package?
[00:02] <tbrown2012> Can I install Photoshop cs5 or something on ubuntu using winehq
[00:02] <RyuGuns> Theoretically possible.
[00:02] <sentriz|netbook> -.-
[00:02] <rhin0> trying to get bash command to run another command
[00:02] <rhin0> just need to bash then ssh from applet
[00:02] <trism> sentriz|netbook: totem
[00:02] <sentriz|netbook> Thanks!
[00:02] <yeik> rhin0, what do you mean?
[00:02] <sentriz|netbook> :)
[00:03] <rhin0> i need bash <commandname> where commandname is ssh
[00:03] <rhin0> so I can put it into an applet
[00:03] <rhin0> and have an applet ot get into system
[00:03] <ProfessorBacon> rhin0: "ssh --help"?
[00:03] <rhin0> no its bash
[00:03] <aaas> tbrown2012 is virtualbox an option
[00:03] <rhin0> I need to know hwo to get bash to issue a command on run
[00:03] <MrUnagi> rhin0: on un of what
[00:04] <ProfessorBacon> rhin0: what shell are you in?
[00:04] <rhin0> xfce4
[00:04] <rhin0> but it runs same as bash
[00:04] <ProfessorBacon> rhin0: have you tried to run terminal
[00:04] <yeik> rhin0, are you trying to do this in code? why do you need to run bash then a command?
[00:04] <rhin0> in a single command line
[00:04] <rhin0> bash "commandname"
[00:05] <xio3> would it be safe to store /var on a ram partition?
[00:05] <yeik> ssh | bash
[00:05] <yeik> ?
[00:05] <Jordan_U> xio3: No.
[00:05] <ProfessorBacon> bash and ssh?  i don't see the connection
[00:05] <itaylor57> rhin0 is talking about the run progam from applications menu
[00:06] <ProfessorBacon> alt+f2?
[00:06] <JonMarkGo> Boohbah - Where can I find mirrors?
[00:06] <rhin0> I want to be able to type from bash shell "bash ssh@servername" and get in
[00:06] <rhin0> so I can put that on an applet
[00:06] <xio3> Jordan_U: any reason why?  it looks like mostly temporary stuff
[00:06] <ProfessorBacon> rhin0: why not just use "ssh user@host"?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> xio3: Counterexamples: /var/www/ /var/log/
[00:07] <Boohbah> JonMarkGo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[00:07] <ProfessorBacon> rhin0: what's the end result you are looking for
[00:07] <xio3> Jordan_U: it is a desktop system so /var/www i think is of no concern. /var/log is probably not either...
[00:07] <rhin0> that worked
[00:07] <rhin0> thanks
[00:07] <ProfessorBacon> np
[00:08]  * yeik laughs
[00:08] <rhin0> gotta get all applets set up -- work faster
[00:08]  * rhin0 has zillions of taskbar applets
[00:08] <acicula> xio3: doing that will break your package managment for one
[00:09] <xio3> acicula: that was the underlying wonder i had actually
[00:09] <Jordan_U> xio3: /var/lib/dpkg/
[00:10] <yeik> xio3, i believe the /temp can be moved
[00:10] <xio3> Jordan_U & acicula: any suggestions for how i can boot a basic x session in read-only and/or overlay to ram and then mount an encryption partition and restart x?
[00:10] <yeik> but why waste a ram partition on something like that?
[00:10] <acicula> xio3: /var/{lib,spool,cache} all hold information you want to keep over a reboot. you can use tmpfs storage for /tmp but not for /var
[00:11] <acicula> xio3: eh that sounds fairly convoluted, what are you trying to achieve?
[00:11] <yeik> xio3, ram partitions are best for either temporary data that is processing (ie something that needs quick access) or something you use a lot, and copy it to ram from the fs, and make sure they are synced.
[00:12] <xio3> acicula: i want a gui to mount an encrypted partition; then be able to upgrade the programs. i don't want any added programs beyond the basic os software to be visible when the system is off.
[00:13] <yeik> xio3,  why not dual partition, and use a bootable file that you keep on the usb drive?
[00:13] <xio3> yeik: i'm not sure if i follow.
[00:14] <yeik> xio3, your trying to have a secure operating system, then one that has all your other stuff that nobody can access right?
[00:14] <xio3> yeik: yes.
[00:14] <yeik> do you need both?
[00:15] <xio3> yeik: i'm trying to avoid having an advisory decipher what a system is being used for. the entire system might be run from a usb flash drive. if the flash drive is looked at there would be an encrypted partition with data/programs that are not on with a basic operating system.
[00:16] <yeik> xio3, so something like truecrypt does with windows.
[00:16] <xio3> yeik: yes
[00:16] <xio3> yeik: i think truecrypt has you enter a password before a GUI is up though
[00:17] <xio3> yeik: i've designed systems like the one i've described before with 10.04 although am looking to design a new one with ubuntu 12.04.
[00:17] <yeik> xio3, you could do something like that http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=318075
[00:17] <yeik> xi03, you could also create a virtualbox image and put it in an encrypted file container.
[00:18] <DrManhattan> ok so I want to make sure the gui doesn't start - what's the app - preferably a console app - to adjust my services
[00:18] <yeik> DrManhattan, runlevel?
[00:18] <zykotick9> DrManhattan: "technically" with upstart - there isn't one...
[00:18] <DrManhattan> sysv-rc-conf?
[00:18] <DrManhattan> I used to use rcconf - but I am quite rusty with Ubuntu
[00:18] <bastidrazor> DrManhattan: you want to boot to a prompt instead of the GUI?
[00:19] <DrManhattan> bastidrazor, correct, like old-school runlevel 3
[00:19] <zykotick9> DrManhattan: i'm not sure you sure trust rcconf with moder ubuntu/upstart - but you could try it...
[00:19] <zykotick9> !text | DrManhattan
[00:20] <bastidrazor> DrManhattan: /etc/default/grub   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=     add text that line then save.  sudo update-grub
[00:20] <yeik> DrManhattan, why not install ubuntu server? i don't think it has a gui
[00:20] <DrManhattan> zykotick9, I need to do that by default
[00:20] <DrManhattan> thanks bastidrazor
[00:20] <DrManhattan> yeik, it's on a VM and I need the easycap driver
[00:20] <bastidrazor> DrManhattan: you'll need to enclose that in quotes.. ="text"
[00:20] <agoodm> I have a simple issue with pulse audio... it seems to be mixing my audio output with my microphone for skype causing a lot of feedback...
[00:21] <xio3> yeik: the virtual emulation thing would work although is of an inferior design to what i'd like to achieve. i don't think that link described what i'm trying to do either. they are talking about setting up multiple partitions for multiple operating system and encrypting them i think.
[00:21] <DrManhattan> I believe the kernel used for desktop is better for zoneminder camera response as well
[00:21] <zykotick9> DrManhattan: fyi bastidrazor suggestion will work, but it's not addressing the "service" issue directly ;)
[00:22] <DrManhattan> bastidrazor, just adding it to the existing line within the quotes is fine, right?
[00:22] <bastidrazor> DrManhattan: yes
[00:22] <yeik> xio3, i don't think there is an easy way to do what you want, not sure but you might be able to encrypt a fs, and when you decrypt it, use chroot, or something similar, and run the "hidden" os with your programs along that path.
[00:22] <DrManhattan> zykotick9, that's silly, it accomplishes the same thing as you're telling me to do without having to do it manually every time
[00:22] <xio3> yeik: yea; that is more along the lines of what i'm thinking
[00:24] <DrManhattan> so my only problem now is i'm going to have to run/make a custom script to run mplayer for 2 seconds before zoneminder fires up if I can't find some more advanced configuration options - but if/when I get that done, I'll have a VM that uses 9 dollar usb easycaps over USB
[00:24] <xio3> yeik: i think what i might be able to do is setup a partition scheme where the basic os exists then mount an overlay file system to an encrypted partition after x is up. then remount root in r/w and and restart x.
[00:25] <DrManhattan> if there's any way I can get them to use a usb hub (doubtful) then I can set up some pretty heavy duty security systems that aren't hardware dependent
[00:25] <picklehead> #ireland
[00:25] <yeik> xio3, sounds really complicated. good luck.
[00:25] <DrManhattan> Oh hell no, it still booted up into the gui login
[00:25] <DrManhattan> death.
[00:25] <picklehead> boolox
[00:26] <xio3> yeik:    :)   complicated only begins to describe it. i have to get more familiar with it. i think you can remount root if the system is partitioned right.
[00:26] <yeik> xio3, why the trouble for this?
[00:26] <agoodm> ubuntu is using the wrong microphone input
[00:26] <DrManhattan> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash text"
[00:27] <DrManhattan> lol I have to update-grub don't I?
[00:27] <xio3> yeik: top secret.
[00:27] <yeik> xio3, well, i was just thinking that it isn't really secure, especially if your swap partition is open and it uses swap
[00:27] <xio3> yeik: there is more to this than meets the eye. you are only hearing the first half.
[00:28] <DrManhattan> yeah I forgot that update-grub
[00:28] <DrManhattan> im used to grub1 - sorry about that
[00:28] <xio3> yeik: yea- there are a whole lot of things that need to be done in addition to what i'm inquiring about at the moment.
[00:28] <yeik> xio3, the easiest, quickest, and most secure option is virtualbox vm. and those are portable, and encrypted.
[00:29] <yeik> or can be encrypted
[00:29] <xio3> yeik: the only part which i'm unsure of at the moment is how to get x up and running to mount an encrypted filesystem- and then be able to 'restart' it using a different root file system.
[00:30] <yeik> xio3, why restart? just create a new x session.
[00:30] <xio3> yeik: again- i'm not terribly interested in the virtual box method. it is easier although wouldn't work as well for the user base.
[00:30] <yeik> xio3, you can use opennx,
[00:30] <xio3> yeik: i'm not sure how to create a new x session
[00:31] <Guiri> How can I create an SSH jail with a shell?  Most of the openssh sftp guides take away shell access.
[00:31] <xio3> yeik: that might work... i've done something similar. the thing with that is it complicates things.
[00:31] <xio3> yeik: it is sort of like running virtual box...
[00:31] <yeik> xio3, sounds like its already complicated.
[00:32] <xio3> yeik: it is. even a virtual box setup is pretty complicated actually.
[00:33] <yeik> xio3, virtualbox is easy. i can set one up in no time, clone it, and make it 1 clock for users.
[00:34] <xio3> yeik: there are actually a variety of issues with virtualbox. for one you are duplicating the amount of space necessary.
[00:35] <binny> hey! =)
[00:35] <binny> I'm trying to change my apache port. but it doesn't seem to be working and i have NO clue why
[00:35] <yeik> xio3, your going to have to duplicate the space anyway, your talking about two os's unless you keep the linux kernel and everything the same at all times, between them, and link everything that is the same.
[00:36] <binny> I added Listen 8080 to the ports.conf
[00:36] <binny> and when i goto localhost:8000 it gives me nothing
[00:36] <xio3> yeik: yep- that is what i'm thinking. i think as long as the software on the base os is in sync it should be possible to restart x with a different configuration.
[00:37] <binny> and advice as per what could have gone wrong?
[00:37] <binny> thanks =)
[00:37] <acicula> xio3: whats your goal which such a complicated setup?
[00:38] <DrManhattan> so I guess my only real issue is getting things installed on software raid
[00:38] <DrManhattan> I'll address that when 12.04 final comes out, because the last LTS installed just fine
[00:39] <xio3> acicula: i wish i could tell you. i guess i can inform you of the gist of it. trying to keep a variety of users on a single platform that can't be distinguished from another group of users all while having a different set of applications.  those applications could indicate what group a particular person was associated. this could be dangerous.
[00:39] <yeik> DrManhattan, i thought you were using a virtual machine? maybe i haven't been paying attention
[00:39] <DrManhattan> yelk - I was, that's all wrapped up now. It works great!
[00:39] <yeik> xio3, all your trying to do is keep what programs users have access to seperate?
[00:40] <yeik> DrManhattan, ok good. just didn't think virtual machine and software raid went together (for most people anyway)
[00:40] <DrManhattan> this is for a standard generic in house ubuntu box on real hardware, I have tried out a few different versions of the installer and the only thing that works on my nvraid box with raid of any sort is 10.04
[00:41] <DrManhattan> 11.10 and 12.04 both wont do it.
[00:41] <DrManhattan> a real disappointment really
[00:41] <yeik> i know sometimes the depreciate drivers
[00:41] <yeik> is it older hardware?
[00:41] <DrManhattan> Not really
[00:41] <DrManhattan> just nvraid
[00:41] <acicula> xio3: use sandard ubuntu with encrypted home and store whatever applications you want to hide in the home?
[00:41] <DrManhattan> I would consider nvraid obscure for linux
[00:42] <invader> Does anyone how a an Ubuntu app that works with windows 7 "More Secure" mode?
[00:42] <yeik> DrManhattan, you might be able to put the driver in 12.04
[00:42] <invader> *know
[00:42] <yeik> invader, what do you mean, windows 7 "more secure" mode?
[00:43] <DrManhattan> yeik, oh yeah its easy post install, but pre-install, you can't  parition the raid devices or install to them
[00:43] <DrManhattan> you can create a raid device but when you go back to the partitioner, the raid device doesn't show up
[00:43] <yeik> DrManhattan, so you need a pre-install environment. you can install a newer version of linux from an older bootable disk.
[00:44] <invader> yeik, In windows 7 you  can for RDP select "Less Secure" and "More Secure" more secure uses TLS for RDP.
[00:44] <DrManhattan> yeik, I don't know whats newer than 12.04
[00:44] <xio3> yeik: umm.... for example. if you have two groups which use two separate sets of applications and an attacker doesn't know which group the person is associated they could just look at the applications used. it would then determine if the user is part of a group that is of interest to the attacker.
[00:44] <yeik> DrManhattan, nothing now.
[00:44] <DrManhattan> to be honest I just want to be able to put bios raid on and use it, but dodmraid doesn't seem to cut it
[00:45] <yeik> invader, so, you need TLS rdp application in linux.
[00:45] <DrManhattan> I still just end up seeing the two devices as if it were in ide compat mode
[00:45] <DrManhattan> and debian testing does the same, but 10.04 lts picks up hardware and software raid just fine
[00:45] <DrManhattan> there's no easycap module for 10.04 though
[00:45] <invader> yeik, yes correct for RDP.
[00:46] <invader> yeik, From googling around I cant really find anything.
[00:47] <xio3> acicula: i'm not sure storing the applications in the home would work. you would need to be able to boot with root in a read-only mode, install the application, and then reboot, and still be able to access the application. is this not basically what i was describing? i would think x would need to be restarted.
[00:49] <bcardarella> I have a simple command: echo "sometext" > somefile   that I want to run as sudo but when I put sudo in front I believe sudo is just being called on 'echo' instead of the '>' command. How would I get the later?
[00:50] <acicula> xio3: you would just boot a normal ubuntu, mount the home and setup the paths such that programs in the home directory can also be executed. No need for rebooting or installing anything. If you wanted to you could use a read only root file system with an in memory overlay with that yes.
[00:50] <agoodm> I have a really weird audio problem
[00:50] <bastidrazor> bcardarella: echo 'stuff' | sudo tee /path/to/somefile
[00:50] <yeik> invader, not sure, freerdp looks like it might
[00:50] <bcardarella> bastidrazor: ah yes, pipe. I always forget about that. Thank you :)
[00:51] <bastidrazor> bcardarella: you may also want to look at adding 'tee -a' for append. without it it'll overwrite the contents
[00:51] <itaylor57> bastidrazor, +1
[00:52] <yeik> xio3, is this on a network attached computers? you could mount a fs remotely that adds the apps they have access to, or like acicula was saying, add it to the path.
[00:52] <yeik> DrManhattan, not sure about that. but it sounds like you just need the right drivers, if you could add them to the live-cd and installation i think it would work.
[00:53] <bastidrazor> bcardarella: you're welcome
[00:53] <DrManhattan> yeik, that would be pretty tight
[00:53] <eldereko> is it going to mess anything up to have both i386/x64 versions of opengl/mesa libraries installed?
[00:53] <DrManhattan> yeik, but even with software raid it does this, so I don't think it's a driver issue
[00:54] <yeik> DrManhattan, you mean hardware raid? software raid is high level, hardware is low level.
[00:54] <xio3> yeik: that might work.  as long as you can mount the encrypted partition once x starts. how would you get the desktop to recognise the applications after the home was mounted?
[00:55] <DrManhattan> yeik, it gives me the error I discussed earlier with the created raid devices not appearing in the partitioner with software raid
[00:55] <xio3> yeik: if that would work i would think you would at a minimum need to restart x or log the user in/out.
[00:56] <xio3> yeik: or maybe start x, your encryption program, and then the login manager.
[00:56] <yeik> xio3, not really. applications are just like windows, an exe. if you have access to it, (and shared libraries that might be in use) you can run it.
[00:57] <yeik> xio3, not sure how your window manager works, but i think there should be a way to add those programs to the window manager application list as well
[00:57] <DrManhattan> I just hope zoneminder will let me view /dev/dvb devices
[00:57] <yeik> xio3, the hard thing will be if you use apt or dpkg to install
[00:58] <yeik> DrManhattan, i haven't tried lots of raids, i have seen too many of them fail. but when i do set them up, they just work. So i'm afraid im not much help really.
[00:58] <DrManhattan> although I'm half tempted to throw two bttv and a 713x alongside the ati 550pro and just use those as my zoneminder devices
[00:58] <DrManhattan> yeik, same here - especially in linux
[00:58] <xio3> yeik: that is the idea.. having a normal system.
[00:59] <DrManhattan> I've always loved the simplicity and performance of software raid in linux of many flavors
[00:59] <DrManhattan> but these are betas and the such we're discussing anyhow - it works just fine in both forms in the lts release
[00:59] <DrManhattan> well 11.10 isnt "beta" but it isnt "stable" either
[00:59] <xio3> yeik: i think it is probably doable to simply use an overlay file system though and simply restart x.
[01:00] <dihi228> hey all, does ubuntu use synaptic package manager like lubuntu?
[01:00] <DrManhattan> Im going to give software raid a shot on ich10 right now - my bet is itll work fine
[01:00] <DrManhattan> Nvraid is so fecal that nvidia gave up on it
[01:00] <yeik> xio3,  you still have the duplicate files, and you would have to overlay everything. i just don't know how that would work well. or even if it would.
[01:00] <xio3> yeik: i would think the only things that would be impacted are daemons
[01:00] <zykotick9> dihi228: ubuntu software center is probably consider the default package manager
[01:00] <dihi228> i'm trying to install the ESR version of Firefox, 10.0.3...but alas only FF 11 is available in synaptic....any ideas how to do this?
[01:01] <xio3> yeik: i think i'm understanding why you are saying things would be duplicated now.
[01:01] <xio3> yeik: you are right. they probably would be over time.
[01:02] <yeik> xio3, you seem to be worried about security after someone is in the system... looking at the applications that are listed. that isn't good.
[01:03] <schultza> does dockbarx work with cinnamon?
[01:03] <l_r> when will ubuntu be out
[01:04] <xio3> yeik: you have to presume the user knows the medium was confiscated. otherwise this is a pointless endeavour.
[01:04] <invader> yeik, Hmm that might work. Thanks man.
[01:04] <xio3> yeik: border crossings might be a good example. if the medium is taken all bets are off.
[01:05] <xio3> yeik: however they wouldn't be able to determine the use of the device.
[01:05] <zykotick9> schultza: cinnamon is not really supported here.  do you have it running on ubuntu?
[01:05] <yeik> xio3, if the medium is taken, encrypted user folders should be enough.
[01:06] <gerzel> Ok I got an odd problem  I got a new monitor.  And recently did a long over-due upgrade of my packages.  Running 11.04.  On my old monitor, flash video plays with normal colors.  On my new monitor flash plays with red/blue reversed.  I can't find any other application where this problem exists.  It is browser independant in firefox, chrome and opera.  The only thing that seems to matter is which screen it is played on.
[01:06] <xio3> yeik: encrypted users folders wouldn't protect a user from someone discovering what applications are used.
[01:06] <gerzel> Other colors on the same screen are normal
[01:06] <tbrown2012> Installing Microsoft 2010 in Ubuntu I deed not know that it was possible
[01:06] <xio3> yeik: or at least what applications were installed.
[01:06] <scientes> TBoxley-Server, it is with !wine or !codeweavers
[01:06] <yeik> xio3, the only way to do that, is to compile the packages yourself, and store them in an encrypted container, then mount it.
[01:07] <scientes> !wine | tbrown2012
[01:07] <scientes> !crossover | tbrown2012
[01:07] <scientes> hmm no info for crossover
[01:07] <xio3> yeik: as you mention with the virtual box example there are ways to do it.
[01:07] <scientes> tbrown2012, http://www.codeweavers.com/products/
[01:08] <yeik> xio3, yes, but i was stating the way you are talking
[01:08] <scientes> tbrown2012, but libreoffice is recommended over office, it supports the same file formats
[01:08] <xio3> yeik: you might be right.
[01:08] <schultza> zykotick9: no... i dont have it running at the moment... i have gnomenu and dockbarX running
[01:08] <tbrown2012> I deed not need help with winehq I was just saying that I cant belive that installing windows microsoft office in ubuntu I already installed it so dont need help
[01:08] <yeik> xio3, see, if you use ubuntu properly, apt-get etc, dpkg all have a few locations that are written to.
[01:08] <yeik> xio3, other than that, encrypt the whole hard drive.
[01:09] <franklinr> Hello, I need help with SSH tunneling. I have putty on Windows and I want to tunnel traffic to Ubuntu's VPN connection, but so far my web traffic goes through eth1 instead of the VPN connection. What can I do?
[01:09] <xio3> yeik: encrypting the whole disk is an option. the issue though is how do you get a GUI up to mount the encrypted partition?
[01:10] <xio3> yeik: while you can do this before x is up (mounting an encrypted partition) this is not an option in this scenario.
[01:10] <Guest70641> where the HECK is my XP ISO suppose to go and where is my virtual hard disk suppose to go on Virtualbox
[01:10] <xio3> yeik: if this were easy others would have done it. i have no doubts.
[01:10] <zykotick9> Guest70641: #vbox might help as well
[01:11] <tbrown2012> Will When I loaded office word it  went but my computer frezzed
[01:11] <yeik> xio3, others do it. just don't need a gui. and most that do, use windows. hence they have checkpoint, pgp, truecrypt, etc.
[01:11]  * yeik will bbl
[01:11] <xio3> yeik:  :) right. it's not an issue of automating it. it's a matter of making it easier.
[01:11] <xio3> yeik: or making it less scary.
[01:12] <scientes> xio3, dm-crypt and ecryptfs
[01:12] <scientes> ecryptfs works on top of the filesystem, dm-crypt below it
[01:12] <scientes> ecryptfs is more flexible because of this
[01:12] <xio3> scientes: have you been following along.  i'm not sure you understand the goals.
[01:13] <scientes> nope not at all
[01:13] <scientes> but those are the two real options
[01:13] <scientes> truecrypt is not recommended as it has a funny license
[01:13] <scientes> and cannot become a part of debian/ubuntu/fedora etc unless it is relicensed
[01:14] <scientes> its also kinda bloaty compared to the very good ecryptfs, etc
[01:14] <xio3> scientes: we are discussing ways to mount an encrypted root partition in x essentially. we aren't concerned about the encryption program. and i would agree with your statement on truecrypt.
[01:15] <sentriz|netbook> i did 'sudo apt-get install wine' now i have an eula with <Ok> at the bottom - how do i accept?
[01:15] <xio3> scientes: the goal is to hide which programs are installed from an adversary.
[01:15] <zykotick9> sentriz|netbook: TAB then enter i think
[01:15] <sentriz|netbook> Yes!
[01:15] <sentriz|netbook> :)
[01:15] <sentriz|netbook> thanks
[01:15] <scientes> xio3, why? that seems silly
[01:16] <xio3> scientes: the programs installed can suggest what a system is being used for. for instance at a border crossing where nobody knows what the system is used for and they are essentially going on a fishing expedition.
[01:16] <BullShark> would somebody please send me the output of apt-get build-dep --simulate aircrack-ng ?
[01:16] <BullShark> no root/sudo needed
[01:16] <jgrevich> After upgrading to precise dev branch my optical drive devices have a 1 after them (e.g. /dev/dvd -> /dev/dvd1).  How can i change that back?  I tried creating a new symlink but it was reverted after restart.
[01:17] <xio3> scientes: i'll give you a good example. there may be a set of applications one wants to make available for a particular group. if you actually installed those applications then it would give your association away with a particular group.
[01:17] <scientes> xio3, that is very silly, just use dm-crypt and be done with it
[01:17] <xio3> scientes: how would you use dm-crypt with a gui?
[01:17] <scientes> xio3, dm-crypt for the whole damn thing
[01:17] <xio3> scientes: which part is silly ?
[01:17] <scientes> xio3, that way they can only see your kernel
[01:18] <scientes> xio3, thinking about such little things as "what applications are installed" where there are so many other things to worry about
[01:18] <xio3> scientes: again; this is something targeted at users who don't know how to turn on a computer (potentially) so a command line is not acceptable.
[01:18] <scientes> xio3, but if that is what you want you could certainly do it with overlayfs
[01:18] <zykotick9> BullShark: :p (unhelpful, but what you asked for) E: Unable to find a source package for aircrack-ng
[01:18] <xio3> scientes: this is one issue. there are hundreds of other issues i have worked on and resolved.
[01:19] <scientes> xio3, or even just btrfs (but btrfsdoesn't have transparent cncryption yet)
[01:19] <xio3> scientes: lol, we were just talking about overlayfs (or aufs)
[01:19] <scientes> overlayfs with encryption for the overlayfs would work
[01:19] <BullShark> zykotick9 ☠ do you know have universe/multiverse enabled?
[01:19] <scientes> and you would get a little better speed than dm-crypt in some cases
[01:19] <xio3> scientes: again- how would you do that though?
[01:19] <zykotick9> BullShark: i'm missing source repos, thus that error
[01:19] <shape> I LOVE UBUNTU!!!!  WHERE is the GUI in the solution you are suggesting
[01:22] <scientes> that way you can have some notion of evil maid avoidance too, with SD card booting
[01:22] <scientes> xio3, it has ZERO to do with a GUI
[01:22] <xio3> scientes: i give up. you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
[01:23] <BullShark> would somebody please send me the output of apt-get build-dep --simulate aircrack-ng ?
[01:23] <scientes> xio3, just install the whole system to a SD card, and carry around with it
[01:23] <xio3> scientes: how does that solve the problem i'm describing.
[01:23] <xio3> scientes: it doesn't.
[01:23] <scientes> xio3, what you are talking about isn't a problem
[01:23] <scientes> xio3, the problem is that you just arn't encrypting everything
[01:23] <xio3> scientes: and how would you know?
[01:23] <scientes> xio3, which is the only sane solution
[01:24] <xio3> scientes; do you even know what the problem is?
[01:24] <xio3> scientes: and simply saying it isn't a problem is not a solution.
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[01:25] <scientes> xio3, dont you realize you can install a whole system on a SD card? and how does doing that with dm-crypt not solve your problems?
[01:25] <FloodBot1> BullShark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[01:25] <scientes> thanks pangolin
[01:25] <Gallomimia> what the fuck.
[01:25] <pangolin> !language | Gallomimia
[01:25] <Gallomimia> what the firetruck!
[01:25] <scientes> Gallomimia, its a !list type script
[01:25] <mi3> hahaha
[01:25] <mi3> hi!
[01:25] <JayWalker_> Do not spam BullShark.
[01:25] <shape> he just wanted attention
[01:25] <Logan_> Please do not comment on spam.
[01:25] <Nullifi3d> fagasaurus rex
[01:26] <scientes> !language | Logan_
[01:26] <mi3> scientes, the guy got banned!
[01:26] <Gallomimia> well he got it. can i make my server floodping him now?
[01:26] <scientes> oh whoops Nullifi3d was meant for
[01:26] <Logan_> scientes: No worries. :-)
[01:26] <Nullifi3d> i love how i got kicked for no reason
[01:26] <Nullifi3d> gg niggers
[01:26] <Gallomimia> he's still in the not-server channel
[01:26] <xio3> scientes: dm-crypt may be part of the solution although normally it asks for a password in the terminal
[01:26] <rbrooks> wha
[01:26] <mi3> haha
[01:27] <scientes> xio3, thats the only sane way to do it
[01:27] <pangolin> hmm
[01:27] <xio3> scientes: tell me why is that the only way to do it. there are other ways to solve this problem because i've implemented them.
[01:28] <scientes> xio3, well its stupid to boot twice, and that seems to be what you are talking about
[01:28] <scientes> simply to have a password prompt that is pretty
[01:29] <xio3> scientes: ideally you would not need to boot twice. i agree that this is not ideal. however it does solve the problem if it worked. it does work with the right software (virtual emulation, etc)
[01:29] <xio3> scientes: we don't want to use virtual emulation though.
[01:29] <scientes> xio3, if you want pretty password, then use ecryptfs
[01:30] <scientes> xio3, and home-directory installation
[01:30] <xio3> scientes: it isn't about a "pretty password"
[01:30] <scientes> xio3, your adversion to typing in a password at a boot prompt
[01:30] <xio3> scientes: cryptfs with home directory wouldn't solve the problem of preventing an attacker from discovering which applications were installed.
[01:31] <scientes> xio3, this is all silly, because once the attacker has access to your machine you are already screwed
[01:31] <scientes> xio3, because of the evil maid attack
[01:31] <vexaxv> hey guys how do i change my default version of python
[01:32] <xio3> scientes: it isn't silly. the assumption is once your media is confiscated then all bets are off. however you still don't want the attacker to determine what is on the medium or what applications. those applications can indicate how or if to pursue you.
[01:32] <scientes> xio3, then just use dm-crypt
[01:33] <xio3> scientes: you miss the point of the exercise. how do you get  dm-crypt to work with x?
[01:33] <ruben> Hola
[01:33] <scientes> xio3, you could certainly boot twice, and use kexec to get a really cute password prompt, but that doesn't take away the fact that such an excercise is silly
[01:34] <vexaxv> does nobody know how to change the default version of python??
[01:34] <xio3> scientes: thank you. that is the answer. it doesn't matter if it is silly.
[01:35] <pangolin> scientes, are you going to offer any helpful advice or just keep reapting that you think something is silly, because I am really on the verge of removing yuo from this channel for having a bad attitude.  When I go into the pulse mixer it says I have no hardware devices
[01:36] <acicula> schultza: if you remove old kernels they will dissapear from the boot menu
[01:36] <DrManhattan> how hard is it going to be to go from 12.04 beta 2 to final?
[01:36] <bastidrazor> DrManhattan: a simple 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' will do once released
[01:36] <DrManhattan> nice.
[01:36] <pangolin> scientes, read the !guidelines and the !codeofconduct please. I am not going to give you much more latitude
[01:37] <jayar> how do i resize the screen?
[01:37] <scientes> jayar, system-settings-->display
[01:37] <xio3> pangolin: i completely understand his reasons for calling this silly.  humorous.  the attack he is referring is real.    :)
[01:37] <jayar> i mean special settings
[01:37] <vexaxv> pangolin, do u know how to change your default python?
[01:37] <jayar> i have ubuntu running with my 46" screen, but it sticks past the edges a lil on all sides
[01:37] <scientes> xio3, your best bet on prevent evil maid is to use coreboot and to insert your password to a linux kernel booted off the flash,
[01:38] <jayar> need to bring it in like a half inch all the way around
[01:38] <pangolin> vexaxv, I do not , sorry.
[01:38] <emet> did someone page me
[01:38] <Gallomimia> jayar you need to engage a feature called underscan
[01:38] <pangolin> emet, it was a nick spammer. ignore it.
[01:38] <xio3> scientes: that isn't the goal or what is being prevented against though
[01:38] <Gallomimia> emet someone paged everyone.
[01:38] <justdave> precise is failing to correctly detect the available resolutions on my TV (oneiric did correctly detect them). Any ideas?
[01:38] <scientes> xio3, but even with the biggest, 64MB/8 megabytes, you arn't going to fit in X11
[01:38] <vexaxv> pangolin, thats okay, i dont suppose u know how to uninstall something when u installed from source do you?
[01:38] <justdave> it's a Samsung TV, pangolin thinks it's a laptop display
[01:38] <grom358> cat /proc/asound/cards says I have no soundcards.. WTF.. this was working last time
[01:38] <justdave> (hardware is intel video Mac Mini)
[01:39] <jayar> Gallomimia: underscan, cool thnx. i'll look into it
[01:39] <xio3> scientes: the evil maid attack is different... slightly.
[01:39] <OEP> Hi, is it a problem if my Ubuntu 11.10 install won't update to the 3.0 kernel is this supposed to happen for some computers?
[01:40] <scientes> xio3, yeah truecrypt i guess has what you are talking about, a fully functional "dummy system"
[01:40] <xio3> scientes: truecrypt doesn't work with gnu/linux.... not the feature in question.
[01:41] <ubukou> hey all , i ve been having trouble finding how to assign mouse buttons that arent used in my mouse, it seems that compiz has a list of 20 buttons but the ones that i need arent there.. (maybe i need to map them in my xorg.conf(?)  ) any ideas ?
[01:41] <scientes> xio3, you should check out TRESOR
[01:42] <shape> Is it just me or does VLC in linux not come with the option to enable hardware acceleration? I know in windows there is a box to tick this. Do I have to install vaapi?
[01:42] <xio3> scientes: i'm familiar with it
[01:43] <ubukou> bump ?
[01:43] <OEP> shape: AFAIK, my install came with HW acceleration by default
[01:44] <xio3> scientes: i refreshed my memory kexec and i'm pretty sure it doesn't do what what we need it to do
[01:45] <aaas> anyway to share a wireless speaker with several computers..say you want a sepeaker in the bathroom that any one taking a shower can connect to and send audio from their own computer
[01:45] <shape> OEP: Can you please print screen from me and show me where that is? Because I've looked for more than 24 hours into this. And that was the conclusion I came to. When I play H.264 both my CPU cores are 100%
[01:46] <shape> OEP: And it would seem strange that vlc wouldnt implement this into linux but have it as an option in windows right out of the box. So I was wondering if I actually have to install vaapi
[01:47] <xio3> scientes:then again; maybe it does. scope: reboots from the livecd to a newly installed ubuntu system.
[01:47] <OEP> shape: Tools -> Preferences -> Video -> Accelerated video output? That what you're talking about?
[01:49] <shape> OEP: No, I'm talking about GPU acceleration.
[01:49] <shape> OEP: my processor wouldnt be working 100% if GPU acceleration was enabled.
[01:49] <petafile> Is there a way to not antialias fonts in a single app (gnome-terminal), not system wide?
[01:50] <gerzel> Flash player is switching Red/Blue on one screen but not the other.  Anyone have any ideas what's up with this?
[01:50] <scientes> xio3, kexec can load a kernel and an initrd with any command line parameters, so yes it does what you need, however some hardward doesn't work with kexec, cause it cant handle reinitilization
[01:51] <OEP> shape: Gotcha. I thought I remember seeing that option if you choose th "All" radio button on the Video screen; however I couldn't check that for you on this machine (doubt it would support it, potato chip GPU)
[01:51] <xio3> scientes: do you know of any examples/tutorials on this?
[01:52] <jgrevich> would it be considered a bug if do-release-upgrade to precise dev branch overwrites /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistend-cd.rules ?  (it causes all drives to be renamed with a 1 after them)
[01:53] <shape> OEP: I see. I'm looking into it right now. I will let you know how if I get to fix it. The only problem is h.264 being choppy which most people experience.
[01:53] <zykotick9> jgrevich: reask in #ubuntu+1
[01:54] <jgrevich> zykotick9: thanks, what is #ubuntu+1?
[01:54] <OEP> shape: Better than my setup. Currently all h.264 video for me is just green in VLC. :P
[01:54] <zykotick9> jgrevich: alpha/beta support
[01:54] <zykotick9> !precise | jgrevich
[01:54] <jgrevich> zykotick9: ah, thanks!
[01:55] <DrManhattan> does anyone know of a program that lets you use a modem as an answering machine and have custom answers for certain numbers?
[01:55] <DrManhattan> a linux equivalent of phonetrayfree
[01:55] <JonMarkGo> DrManhattan - Check out Twilio
[01:56] <DrManhattan> otherwise I am going to run a winxp VM but I would REALLY like to avoid that
[01:56] <DrManhattan> thanks jon
[01:56] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: google voice ;)
[01:56] <erpo> DrManhattan: Google voice will do that for free online.
[01:56] <DrManhattan> no
[01:56] <DrManhattan> what?
[01:56] <jgrevich> erpo: I was joking. not exactly
[01:56] <helpme111> hello
[01:56] <DrManhattan> I dont want to have it route my phone clals
[01:56] <erpo> jgrevich: I didn't see your line before I hit enter.
[01:56] <jgrevich> erpo: what if you want to do it outside of googles servers?
[01:57] <DrManhattan> I want to be able to plug in a modem and have it screen calls
[01:57] <erpo> jgrevich: No idea.
[01:57] <DrManhattan> only answer certain numbers, otherwise leave it alone
[01:57] <sinistrad> I upgraded to 11.04, and now my software raid is claiming I have degraded raid. I do have mirroring set up, but the RAID is for data, not my OS. My OS drive still won't boot correctly though. I think it is using UUID instead of /dev/sda style of addressing. Any suggestions?
[01:57] <erpo> DrManhattan: Google voice can do that.
[01:57] <erpo> DrManhattan: What is your application?
[01:57] <DrManhattan> erpo, no, I'm sorry but it cant
[01:57] <DrManhattan> erpo - my home phone line
[01:57] <DrManhattan> not an application
[01:57] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: the easiest solution is probably gvoice, but that isn't the same as what you could do through a modem.
[01:58] <DrManhattan> yeah hold on
[01:58] <JonMarkGo> Oh
[01:58] <DrManhattan> http://www.phonetray.com/phonetrayfree.htm
[01:58] <Dragonforce> someone can help-me to fix webcam problem with the cam "bison webcam m560x" ?
[01:58] <DrManhattan> a linux equivalent of that
[01:58] <teligard> What is a good text editor (gui based) that I can install.  I keep having the misfortune of dealing with wine and notepad, adn really hate it.
[01:59] <DrManhattan> gedit should be in there by default
[01:59] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: http://linuxgazette.net/120/smith.html sounds  like a start
[01:59] <sudipta> teligard:gedit is a good one
[01:59] <teligard> thank you
[01:59] <sudipta> teligard:and there is vim
[01:59] <Umo111> teligard : sublime text 2
[01:59] <teligard> I have to manually install it
[02:00] <DrManhattan> jgrevich, I'm going to bookmark that, thanks, but I was REALLY hoping for a packaged solution
[02:00] <sudipta> Umo111, yeah that 2....a minimal ide
[02:00] <teligard> will it strip out any characters from notepad?
[02:00] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: http://alpha.greenie.net/vgetty/
[02:00] <DrManhattan> I doubt it will take much overhead to run a winxp VM on vbox headless with usb passthrough using only that program
[02:00] <DrManhattan> oo vgetty is old school
[02:00] <teligard> I seem to be running into an odd issue with my fstab and mounting of shares, and think it may be related to the fstab being edited in notepad
[02:01] <scientes> teligard, yeah, you have to strip out the carriage returns and return to POSIX newlines
[02:01] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: yeah, I'm not sure how active these projects are
[02:01] <DrManhattan> its all good I'll just turn off all the services and everything in xp and take out everything with overhead and just run phonetray on it
[02:01] <teligard> scientes: how would I go about doing that?
[02:01] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: Looks like VOCP may be another option
[02:02] <DrManhattan> I bet itll still be lower overhead than what they run on the server core versions now
[02:02] <scientes> teligard, lots of ways, id use sed, but gedit can do it IIRC
[02:02] <DrManhattan> ooh thanks vocp is a step in the right direction
[02:02] <OEP> teligard: dos2unix is a command line utility which fixes Windows newlines
[02:03] <teligard> hmmm
[02:03] <teligard> I'll look up the params for that
[02:03] <DrManhattan> wtf their website is out
[02:03] <teligard> Thank you all for the reommendations
[02:04] <teligard> hopefully this will fix my wierd issues with the mounting
[02:04] <DrManhattan> well that sucks
[02:05] <DrManhattan> vocp looks even better than phonetray
[02:05] <DrManhattan> I would love that
[02:05] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: There should be other references
[02:06] <jgrevich> 9 yeas is a long time w/o a release http://freecode.com/projects/vocp
[02:06] <teligard> ugh, didn't fix it
[02:07] <sinistrad> I
[02:07] <DrManhattan> so much random, old, spammy garbage, it's like wading through that giant ball of plastic in the pacific
[02:07] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: well, that's the great thing about open source
[02:07] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: someone who cares should breath some life into the project and put it on github or the like
[02:08] <DrManhattan> jgrevich, I guess I'll have to make do with my answering machine and phonetray on a vm in the meanwhile
[02:08] <Pinkemena_D> hi, does anyone know how to bind lynx to a specific network interface or ip?
[02:08] <teligard> the fstab issue is wierd.  When I reboot, my shares appear to have mapped, and I can do whatever I need to do.  If, for whatever reason, I need to remount the shares, and I do a "mount -a", the system tells me that my /etc/fstab lines are bad, or that cifs is not supported (I've made certain tat cifs-utils is installed)
[02:08] <DrManhattan> I doubt itll burn much in the way of cpu overhead
[02:08] <jgrevich> DrManhattan: sounds like good inspiration to build something better :)
[02:08] <ubukou> I found where were the keys on my mouse i was looking for maped. Im trying to setup some of my mouse clicks to do things, like 'initiate move window' i was wondering if there is a chance to configure 2 mouse buttons to do the same thing. Not combined, each time i will be using one.
[02:08] <DrManhattan> the problem is without their site there's no docs
[02:09] <ubukou> any ideas?
[02:09] <DrManhattan> jgrevich, I hear you, if there's still vocp around anywhere and it works im all over it
[02:09] <DrManhattan> I'd love to give diff messages for each number and then go to VM
[02:09] <teligard> brb.  rebooting to see if my smbfs install fixes the issue or not
[02:10] <DrManhattan> personalized messages along with call screening
[02:10] <shape> what is the opposite command for add-apt-repository , I tried remove-apt-repository and it didnt work
[02:11] <sudipta> shape, apt-get remove
[02:11] <Daekdroom> shape, add-apt-repository --remove
[02:11] <Daekdroom> If it's a PPA, you should try installing the ppa-purge package.
[02:12] <Daekdroom> Because it'll revert the packages as well.
[02:12] <Cyberspaceloa> shape: I'd avoid guessing at commands
[02:12] <Pinkemena_D> hi, is it possible to tell lynx to use a specific networking interface, it wont conect on the right one...
[02:12] <shape> Daekdroom: Yeah it's a ppa
[02:12] <shape> and I tried that command and it tells me still that "You're about to add this ppa"
[02:12] <helpme111> i'm looking for lan statistic program that shows tcp retransmission rate
[02:12] <xangua> !ppapurge | shape Daekdroom
[02:12] <OEP> Pinkemena_D: you shouldn't have to specify a network interface for lynx to work
[02:12] <skel> Pinkemena_D: your routes aren't setup if its not using the right one
[02:13] <jayar> it just came back up, and it can see the other computers on the network, but no other computers can see it... cant even SSH into it
[02:13] <xangua> !ppa-purge | shape Daekdroom
[02:13] <Pinkemena_D> i am not trying to access the internet, i am entering a web interface for a network device
[02:13] <skel> anyone know how to make gnome3 look better then the ubuntu default?
[02:13] <NQTropic> anyone know a gui web browser the displays websites as text only?
[02:13] <shape> xangua: Thanks!
[02:13] <sudipta> skel:better as how?
[02:14] <xangua> you can install themes and icons with gnome-tweak-tool skel
[02:14] <skel> sudipta: as in, it's not a plain bar that says applications / Places.
[02:14] <jayar> NQTropic: use chrome and disable everything in options
[02:14] <skel> xangua: I'm on extensions.gnome.org and none of the extensions have the option for on/off like they do on my 11.10
[02:15] <skel> xangua: and I had to add additional ppa's to get that to happen
[02:15] <Cyberspaceloa> NQTropic: you can also use a command line based browser
[02:15] <cocolos> When I vnc into my ubuntu machine and I try to run a qt application I get:  xlib: extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":1.0".
[02:15] <AcidRain2012> .
[02:15] <cocolos> any one know?
[02:15] <sudipta> skel:u dont like the unity? use gnome fallback
[02:15] <sinistrad> I'm able to boot the degraded raid array, but I'm not sure how to fix it. "mdadm --assemble --scan" didn't seem to have an effect
[02:16] <skel> sudipta: doesn't gnome-fallback make it work like gnome 2?
[02:16] <NQTropic> yer I know those options Cyberspaceloa & jayar , but was wondering if there was anything else
[02:16] <sudipta> skel:yup....if that's you want...
[02:17] <DrManhattan> if i want to install with software raid on 12.04 I have to use the alternate?
[02:18] <teligard> Well, that didn't work
[02:18] <rvb> hello, is it possible to unplug and then plug my usb gsm modem via command line?
[02:18] <Cyberspaceloa> NQTropic: sorry, I don't know of any
[02:18] <warm> Is there a way to convert .ttc  to .ttf  and how?
[02:18] <teligard> Is there a different location that ubuntu stores a shre list (like an fstab, but not fstab) that launches at boot time?
[02:18] <rvb> my problem is that the modem is on a remote location that i can't physically unplug it so i have to do it remotely, via command line if possible
[02:19] <teligard> rvb: are you ableto get into the system remotely and run at commands?
[02:20] <teligard> And to what degree are you trying to "unplug" the modem?
[02:20] <teligard> just drop the connection, or?
[02:24] <teligard> If you're simply trying to hang up, I believe there is something like Hn to hangup
[02:25] <rvb> teligard: like trying to simulate a physical unplug/unplug so that the system can re-read the modem
[02:25] <rvb> because it shows in the lsusb, trouble is with gammu (sms gateway), it can't detect it .. the only way it can is to unplug/plug the modem
[02:26] <WHAT_UP> say i have some script i want to run in a terminal on a samba server. i have nautilus open to exactly the folder containing it, but it won't allow me to double click the file to run the script. unfortunately, the "path" in nautilus starts with smb://, so it's not like i can just cd there via terminal. what do i do?
[02:31] <sacarlson> WHAT_UP you might be able to right click on the file and change properties to make the file executable, then double click it to run
[02:31] <WHAT_UP> sacarlson: tried that. apparently the fact that it's on a samba server prevents you from change permissions
[02:31] <WHAT_UP> sacarlson: which makes sense
[02:32] <sacarlson> WHAT_UP if you don't have write privs or the file is on an ntfs drive with no perms change posible then you would have to copy and paste the file to a location you can change the privs and run from there
[02:32] <DrManhattan> does ubuntu server have a pae enabled kernel available?
[02:33] <teligard> rvb: did that help any?
[02:33] <sacarlson> DrManhattan: yes
[02:33] <DrManhattan> ty
[02:35] <DrManhattan> yeah 12.04 doesn't let me partition my raid devices
[02:35] <DrManhattan> alternate
[02:36] <DrManhattan> software raid is not functioning for me on that
[02:37] <cocolos> What's an alternative to using vnc to remote desktop onto my ubuntu machine
[02:37] <bazhang> !12.04 | DrManhattan
[02:37] <DrManhattan> Yeah I hear you bazhang
[02:37] <DrManhattan> it doesn't make my butt any less hurt over the matter
[02:37] <DrManhattan> trying out server now
[02:38] <bazhang> DrManhattan, /join #ubuntu+1
[02:39] <bazhang> Oblomov ins particular
[02:39] <bazhang> minus the s
[02:39] <WHAT_UP> sacarlson: thanks
[02:39] <teligard> cocolos: FreeNX would be one
[02:40] <teligard> cocolos: another would be XDMCP
[02:40] <erpo> cocolos: ssh -X
[02:40] <cocolos> teligard: would that solve my problem of my opengl library not being incompatible with that X server
[02:40] <cocolos> erpo: tried but no luck, I am trying to run an opengl program
[02:40] <erpo> cocolos: Which program?
[02:40] <DrManhattan> bazhang, they have no love for me there.
[02:41]  * DrManhattan starts crying
[02:41] <bazhang> DrManhattan, just be patient.
[02:41] <cocolos> erpo: my own which is integrated with qt
[02:41]  * DrManhattan patiently hangs himself :)
[02:41] <cocolos> erpo: I get this error 'extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":1.0"'
[02:42] <ubukou> anyone knows how to configure two buttons on the mouse to do the same thing ? i found the line that refers to the action i want compiz to perform when pressing it.. it is "s0_initiate_button = Button12" in what syntax should i write it so that i get button 11 and button 12 to do the same action ?
[02:42]  * yeik laughs
[02:42] <teligard> cocolos: what happens if you go to a terminal screen (ctrl-alt-F1) and do sudo xinit -- :1
[02:43] <teligard> Should start an xsession that you can access by ctrl-alt-f8
[02:44] <cocolos> teligard: I get a fatal error
[02:44] <teligard> hmmm.
[02:45] <cocolos> teligard: want a screenshot of error?
[02:45] <teligard> no
[02:45] <cocolos> teligard: would I just have to use another client?
[02:46] <teligard> I'm just trying to think of what's actually causing the error.  You're running nVidia, or so I assume from the error
[02:46] <cocolos> that's correct
[02:46] <derp> Hey all, I am having some odd issues with 12.04 and I really cannot fathom what might be going on. I have an USB wifi receiver which works very well except sometimes my computer simply decides that it does not want to load webpages. I have full bars, none of the other computers in the house has this issue.
[02:46] <teligard> Have you tried reinstalling the nvidia drivers?
[02:46] <cocolos> no I have not
[02:47] <teligard> Just grasping at straws, but might want to try that
[02:47] <derp> It seems random, but I can replicate it with no problem by plugging in another USB device. Every time I plug a second USB device in, it will not load anything. It even drops local network connections.
[02:47] <cocolos> does vnc send images or does it do something fancier?
[02:48] <cocolos> teligard: could it be how I setup vncserver?
[02:48] <derp> .... but it still gives me full bars.
[02:48] <teligard> vnc sends an image, then refreshes the changed portions of the screen, if I rememer correctly, as part of it's compression scheme
[02:49] <cocolos> I find it weird that I get these errors only when I vnc and not when i am physically on the machine
[02:50] <teligard> I wouldn't think that the vncserver would be influencing the x session, but I'd be inclined to have someone else confirm that, as I'm still a bit of a newbee
[02:50] <bazhang> !12.04 | derp
[02:50] <teligard> There are alot of people in here a whole lot better versed in the workings than I am
[02:50] <sacarlson> cocolos: sounds like your app is working with video
[02:51] <bazhang> derp, /join #ubuntu+1 for that
[02:51] <cocolos> sacarlson: it's just opengl + cuda + qt
[02:52] <sgo11> hi, I can create a socks proxy server very easily with ssh. but how can I change it to https proxy? I am trying to ask android sdk manager to use my socks proxy, but unfortunately, the android sdk manger only supports https proxy. thanks.
[02:53] <Meat5hield> Hey guys, I have an ubuntu computer that is failing to boot. I get dumped to a shell after grub it, because "the disk does not exist".It may also help to mention that it tells me "Common problems:9acc45c2d21" while busy dumping me to shell. Anyone have any idea whats up
[02:53] <sgo11> http proxy is fine with me too. just want some easy configuration to map my socks proxy to http proxy. thanks.
[02:54] <ubukou> anyone knows how to configure two buttons on the mouse to do the same thing ? i found the line that refers to the action i want compiz to perform when pressing it.. it is "s0_initiate_button = Button12" in what syntax should i write it so that i get button 11 and button 12 to do the same action ?
[02:55] <cocolos> teligard: I was told that 'opengl library is incompatible with that X server'
[02:56] <cocolos> teligard: and to use something else other than vnc or fix the incompatibility….any clue?
[02:57] <teligard> cocolos: that doesn't make sense to me, as I use opengl with X server
[02:57] <SueDeNym> Quick question: I recently got a Chromebook and installed Ubuntu 11.10 on it. I would like to get the function keys working with minimal effort. Guides indicate that I should install and use "keytouch", which appears to have been deleted from the repository. Should I try to download and install it myself or am I out of luck with that approach?
[02:57] <teligard> so I don't understand the error
[02:57] <cocolos> teligard: maybe more what it says would help?
[02:58] <bazhang> SueDeNym, keytouch-editor you mean?
[02:58] <bazhang> !info keytouch-editor | SueDeNym
[02:58] <teligard> Again, I'm very much a neophyte in this, and don't want to misguide you
[02:58] <SueDeNym> keytouch-editor is still in the repository, but as best I can tell it still needs keytouch to actually work
[02:59] <bazhang> SueDeNym, installed and tried?
[02:59] <SueDeNym> yep
[02:59] <SueDeNym> it allows me to create config files
[02:59] <SueDeNym> but there's one I can download that matches my specs
[03:00] <derp> If I have two grub instances can I switch the flagging to the inactive one and delete the one that is flagged?
[03:00] <SueDeNym> but it doesn't actually make the changes
[03:00] <bazhang> derp, 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1 as I've said
[03:01] <cocolos> teligard: just thought i'd show you here's the error in it's completeness http://pastebin.com/0w9u3Wi8
[03:01] <derp> bazhang: This isnt about 12.04.
[03:01] <teligard> cocolos: looking now...
[03:01] <bazhang> derp, you are using 12.04, correct?
[03:02] <derp> Nope. 10.04
[03:02] <cocolos> teligard: much appreciated
[03:02] <c4pt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/180860567966?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[03:02] <derp> I want to get rid of the second partition and restore the space it took up on my laptop.
[03:02] <teligard> cocolos: no problem
[03:02] <bazhang> derp, you just said you were using 12.04
[03:03] <shape> What does this mean: "If you really want to compile without asm, configure with --disable-asm."
[03:03] <derp> bazhang: I have three machines in my home runing ubuntu, two run 10.04, one runs 10.04 and has a 12.04 partition on it.
[03:03] <shape> I ran the command "./configure -enable-shared"
[03:03] <sacarlson> Meat5hield: boot from another partition or a live cd and do fsck /dev/sdaX  on the drive that is having the problem or something like this http://www.ehow.com/how_6865088_fix-disk-errors-linux.html
[03:03] <teligard> cocolos:  Did you make any changes in your xconfigurator or anything?
[03:03] <teligard> Very odd error
[03:04] <cocolos> i changed the xstartup
[03:04] <teligard> cocolos: what if you change it back?
[03:04] <cocolos> teligard: essentially followed this http://bit.ly/fvbBMD
[03:05] <teligard> The errors you're having are really peculiar to me.  Seems more like a configuration issue than a conflict
[03:05] <cocolos> i see
[03:05] <sacarlson> derp: if the partition isn't used you can use disk utility to reformat the parition,  it will also enable you to umount the drive from there if needed.  be sure you don't have anything like /home mounted on it
[03:06] <teligard> Is that all you need to do is view the ubuntu desktop from windows?
[03:06] <cocolos> teligard: not sure what I added
[03:06] <Meat5hield> @sacarlson Thanks, i'll try that
[03:06] <jimmythekid> i just found a major hole that gives shell access
[03:07] <jimmythekid> bout to release a security memo on it
[03:07] <jimmythekid> may be able to maintain root
[03:07] <teligard> jimmythekid: which version?
[03:07] <bazhang> jimmythekid, how does this relate to ubuntu support
[03:08] <jimmythekid> it looks like 10+
[03:08] <jimmythekid> thought all should know
[03:08] <jimmythekid> i gotta work on it more first
[03:08] <jimmythekid> see if i can gain root through it
[03:08] <bazhang> !bug | jimmythekid
[03:08] <shape> Can someone please tell me what "./configure" does or point me to a wiki page? I've been searching with no luck
[03:09] <Petrox> Hi.
[03:09] <cocolos> teligard: from mac os x yes just gotta view and I guess remote control so I can open the program
[03:09] <bazhang> jimmythekid, file a bug, no need to talk about what might or might not be
[03:09] <jimmythekid> yea well i want every1 to know
[03:09] <Petrox> shape: ./configure is a tool, included in most source tarballs, that is for you to help compiling the software
[03:09] <bazhang> jimmythekid, its not a bug. no need to chat about it here
[03:10] <jimmythekid> umm actuallyt
[03:10] <jimmythekid> its a major bug
[03:10] <bazhang> !compile | shape
[03:10] <jimmythekid> heh
[03:10] <bazhang> !ot | jimmythekid
[03:10] <jimmythekid> its a HUGE bug
[03:10] <bazhang> jimmythekid, thats enough. stop.
[03:10] <teligard> cocolos: did you back up your .vnc folder first?
[03:10] <shape> Petrox: I tried running it and I got this: ""If you really want to compile without asm, configure with --disable-asm.""
[03:10] <Petrox> shape: it's for "detecting" the environment, which you will compile the software in
[03:10] <cocolos> teligard: nope
[03:10] <rredd4> installing a brand new ubuntu, is it possible to use the free space from the windows hd?  windows will not start up and i need some files
[03:10] <bobweaver> !cve | jimmythekid
[03:11] <cocolos> teligard: did this a while ago
[03:11] <wylde> jimmythekid: then if you were a responsible hacker you would report it properly to the right people to patch the problem before a public announcement.
[03:11] <drecute> rredd4: install wine
[03:11] <Petrox> shape: all the programs have different configure tool, so I don't know what your exact problem is. But you should check the "README" and "INSTALL" files for prerequisites (dependencies)
[03:12] <Petrox> shape: you're probably missing some packages, libs or tools
[03:12] <shape> Petrox: I see. Thanks for the link! It worked for a different program
[03:12] <Petrox> shape: maybe even a gcc
[03:12] <rredd4> drecute I don't have ubuntu installed yet, want to use the free space from the windows partition
[03:12] <shape> So it's like you said, I was probably missing some packages Petrox
[03:12] <cocolos> teligard: any ideas?
[03:12] <drecute> rredd4: yeah. go ahead
[03:13] <Petrox> shape: gl
[03:13] <drecute> but make sure the filesystem is ext3
[03:13] <shape> Petrox: Thanks! I'm actually trying to install vaapi and ffmpeg and it's giving me nightmares
[03:14] <rredd4> is there an option to use windows free space in the install?  I don't remember one
[03:14] <teligard> I'm trying to think of what might be a solution ( starting with what the original .vnc folder and xstartup contained)
[03:14] <teligard> Always good to go back to a working model, and go from there
[03:14] <Petrox> I don't know vaapi, but ffmpeg is not the easiest thing to compile, I think it has a lot of dependencies
[03:14] <Petrox> And I'm sure you can find a compiled one in some repository
[03:15] <drecute> rredd4: you will have to create the partition first
[03:15] <cocolos> teligard: not sure if it this worked before, this is the first time that I am running an opengl + qt app
[03:15] <shape> Petrox: I see. Thanks again! :)
[03:15] <drecute> do it on windows but don't format it
[03:16] <rredd4> drecute windows does not boot, at all
[03:16] <drecute> when you boot to bios, you should see the partition. select it and install ubuntu there
[03:16] <sacarlson> rredd4: if you delete the partition you want to install ubuntu on, with like fdisk or other partition tool , ubuntu will auto expect you want to install in the freespace and ask before it touches your windows partition
[03:16] <Petrox> Can someone please paste me (http://paste.ubuntu.com/) a dpkg --get-selections on a 12.04 default desktop 32bit install?
[03:16] <drecute> rredd4: insert ubuntu cd and boot with it
[03:17] <bazhang> Petrox, 12.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <Petrox> I've just upgraded a machine, and gdm does not start, maybe I'm missing a package, and a default getselections would set me back on track
[03:17] <teligard> what happens if you uninstall vnc (sudo apt-get remove vnc4server vnc4-common vinagre vino) and remove the .vnc folder, and we try to go through the process?
[03:17] <drecute> during install, you will see the partitions including that of windows
[03:17] <teligard> are you game?
[03:17] <Petrox> bazhang: thx, sry
[03:17] <cocolos> teligard: let me give it a shot
[03:19] <rredd4> drecute there are 3 patitions on this hd, two are to small to install ubuntu onto.  the one that is big enough is the windows partition and I don't want to write over that partition, just us the unused portion of that partition
[03:19] <rredd4> maybe parted will do it
[03:20] <drecute> rredd4: go ahead
[03:21] <drecute> use the windows partition you have and it will work
[03:23] <sacarlson> drecute: sounds like rredd4 wants to keep his windows, if the 2 small partitions that are usable aren't big enuf he might have to resize his windows partition,  and better to do that it windows
[03:23] <drecute> yeah. I told him that
[03:23] <cocolos> teligard: wow…I can vnc in but it's all messed up can't see anything
[03:24] <teligard> cocolos: messed up: please explain?
[03:24] <sacarlson> drecute: you might want to try partition magic or something like that to resize the windows side.  you just need about 5 - 10 gb for ubuntu
[03:25] <drecute> rredd4: listen to sacarlson
[03:25] <rredd4> sacarlson drecute  ok, i can do that, resize partion
[03:25] <cocolos> teligard: it's just grey
[03:25] <teligard> I'd say you need to set your windows manager
[03:25] <cocolos> teligard: can't see anything from my desktop or anything
[03:26] <rredd4> sacarlson drecute I just want to keep windows partition long enough to get some files, the windows is ? out the window forever!!!
[03:26] <cocolos> teligard: my cursor is an X
[03:26] <teligard> yep: we just need to set the window manager (looking up directions now)
[03:27] <drecute> rredd4: looks like you are scared of the obvious
[03:27] <drecute> just go into computer management on windows and resize the disk
[03:27] <rredd4> drecute scarlson how small can i make the partition and still have enough room for ubuntu?
[03:28] <rredd4> drecute  windows does not work
[03:28] <teligard> cocolos: What window manager are you using normally?
[03:28] <cocolos> gnome?
[03:28] <teligard> ok
[03:28] <teligard> find in the xstartup where it says twm
[03:28] <cocolos> teligard: I can't vnc in now…I am still shed though
[03:28] <rredd4> drecute  i get the bsod
[03:28] <sacarlson> rredd4: I would recomend minimal of 4gb  but you can find smaller versions of linux to use as temp untill you have space available
[03:29] <the_real_crimper> XFS or EXT4?
[03:29] <drecute> rredd4: if you dont want to partition, get a live ubuntu cd and run it
[03:29] <rredd4> scarlson drecute  ty
[03:29] <bazhang> the_real_crimper, whats the full question
[03:30] <rredd4> drecute to slow
[03:30] <drecute> dont install it
[03:30] <rredd4> drecute would piss off my gf
[03:30] <the_real_crimper> bazhang, i'm setting up a RAID and need to decide on a filesystem
[03:30] <rredd4> lol
[03:30] <drecute> when you get to the desktop, just access you windows files
[03:30] <bazhang> the_real_crimper, then say that
[03:30] <imbezol> i'm running a classic gnome session. i have no clickable icons on the panel and i can't right click it to add anything.. what is it that's not running on the panel?
[03:31] <bazhang> imbezol, which panel is this
[03:31] <rredd4> i will have to come back to to that part drecute, its been awhile.  forgot the command
[03:31] <the_real_crimper> bazhang, your thoughts on XFS and EXT4 in a RAID setup?
[03:31] <rredd4> sacarlson drecute thanks for help
[03:31] <sacarlson> the_real_crimper: any extX will do  ext4 the default
[03:31] <drecute> the_real_crimper: if Linux has got zfs, I will recommend that
[03:32] <bazhang> imbezol, is this 11.04, 11.10 or what
[03:32] <drecute> the_real_crimper: try lvm
[03:32] <the_real_crimper> drecute, for what reason?
[03:33] <imbezol> bazhang: 11.10... http://imbezol.org/misc/gnome.png
[03:33] <drecute> the_real_crimper: what you asked for
[03:33] <the_real_crimper> drecute, i mean, what's the key feature of ZFS that makes it preferable ?
[03:33] <imbezol> bazhang: it's like a small app that's part of gnome isn't running
[03:34] <imbezol> bazhang: that area between the time and the menu on the left as well as between the time and the volume adjust on the right, is not clickable or right clickable
[03:34] <drecute> tons of features
[03:35] <drecute> replication, recovery, simplicity (no partitioning)
[03:35] <imbezol> bazhang: actually.. i can drag and drop icons on from the menu
[03:36] <drecute> i can zone entire ubuntu on solaris using zfs
[03:36] <the_real_crimper> i see
[03:37] <magn3ts> Anyone have any compact hardware NAS that allow you to install ubuntu on them??
[03:38] <xui2> if id want to unmount the root partition and then mount a different partition as root, can i do that?
[03:39] <sacarlson1> xui2: yes chroot
[03:39] <xui2> sacarlson1; and unmount the current root partition?
[03:40] <drecute> xui2: you can do that when you are in the new one
[03:40] <xui2> drecute: hmm ok going to try this
[03:40] <sacarlson1> xui2:  here's an example http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[03:41] <Chaosadnd1> Hi all, i was scolded earlier about still using webmin on ubuntu server 11.10 and was told to switch to zentyal, anyone have available the how to link that I cant seem to find?
[03:42] <bazhang> !ebox | Chaosadnd1
[03:42] <Chaosadnd1> There you are ubottu, thanks :)
[03:43] <Chaosadnd1> I guess my question is, can you still administer samba shares ect with zentyal? Was having trouble finding screenshots?
[03:45] <w0und> how's it going guys
[03:45] <rectec> Hi. ]
[03:46] <jesse__> i think my keyboard is messed up, how do I check that?
[03:46] <jesse__> keyboard mapping*
[03:47] <jesse__> ah nevermind, i was in japanese mode T_T
[03:48] <rectec> its all good. im busy writing my question sorry i cant help :)
[03:50] <doc|mobile> anyone know of a fix for a nvidia_96 module not found error from X? Just started a few days ago.
[03:51] <bazhang> doc|mobile, what version of ubuntu?
[03:51] <shape> I use the command locate vlc | grep bin    and it gives me  /usr/bin/vlc  . Yet I try to enter it and gives me "cd: /usr/bin/vlc: Not a directory"
[03:51] <doc|mobile> bazhang: xubuntu 11.10
[03:51] <bazhang> doc|mobile, got the bug link?
[03:51] <rectec> I've been having some big issues with Adobe Flash today. It started off by crashing during certain parts of a video, then the plugin refused to start at all, simply crashing. So I started Flash Aid and installed Flash from the repos, which didn't fix the problem. So I kept trying different flash versions with different tweaks and it didnt fix. Finally, I have ended up with this: http://imgbin.org/images/7737.jpeg . I have no idea ho
[03:51] <rectec> w to fix this. I've also been having flash issues with my other install of Ubuntu (Precise). I've tried both Gnash and Lightspark, but they do not suffice.
[03:51] <rectec> whew
[03:51] <bazhang> shape, its an app
[03:52] <rectec> i'll probably post this to the forums if i dont get help here...
[03:52] <doc|mobile> bazhang: nope, I don't know if one related actually exists. I did find https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/626974 but I'm not sure it's related
[03:52] <shape> bazhang: So is bin then its main directory? I need to know so I can recompile it
[03:52] <bazhang> shape, why would you need to compile vlc
[03:53] <shape> bazhang: I installed vaapi so I can enable GPU acceleration.
[03:53] <shape> bazhang: http://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_VAAPI
[03:53] <shape> bazhang: Recompile VLC: make clean && make <<< I dont know where to use this command.
[03:53] <ludlow> whats up with apt-get update tonight?  Keeps getting stuck at release .rpg ?
[03:54] <sacarlson> shape: when you compile a custom you might put it in your local bin space so you can run eather one the new and old
[03:54] <bazhang> doc|mobile, that looks to be from Maverick; and fixed; perhaps file a new one?
[03:55] <doc|mobile> bazhang: yeah, though a note at the bottom says it has occurred again. Figured it'd be related as the dates match my issue fairly closely. Was hoping someone hear knew of a fix
[03:55] <bazhang> shape, you should read the compiling how to from the wiki we linked you earlier
[03:55] <shape> okay! thanks
[03:55] <shape> I thought I almost had it :(
[03:55] <bazhang> shape, checking for a PPA might be easier if this is very new to you
[03:56] <shape> oh I had to download the otehr stuff through PPA, but you still have to recompile VLC
[03:56] <shape> bazhang: Oh, you mean to get a VLC with VAAPI already enabled?
[03:56] <doc|mobile> bazhang: ok, this is weird. I removed nvidia-96 and nvidia-current (had re apt-get installed them) and then re-installed nvidia-current and now it's working... very weird
[03:57] <bazhang> shape, yeppers
[03:57] <bazhang> doc|mobile, that is odd. a good bug, for once
[03:58] <doc|mobile> bazhang: heh, now my fonts look grainy. sigh
[03:58] <doc|mobile> bazhang: thanks for replying at least
[03:59] <sacarlson> doc|mobile: I had the grainy font problem before with my nvidia but I can't recall what I did to fix it, good news is it is fixed so you do have hope
[04:00] <xui3> Currently I have /dev/sda1 mounted as my root (/) filesytem. I want to change this to /dev/sda2 without rebooting. I asked this question earlier and I don't think I was clear about it. Ultimatley I need to unmount /dev/sda1 after i have /dev/sda2 mounted as root (/).
[04:01] <escott> xui3, thats hard to do in general because you need every process except your own stopped
[04:01] <doc|mobile> sacarlson: heh, maaaan... :)
[04:01] <mayko> i am having horrible problems with my microphone on Lubuntu. It is extremely sporadic in picking up anything. I need my mic so I can have a telephone. I've looked through the usual results from google/ubuntu forums and can't get anywhere. my friends are telling me i should stop wasting time wiht linux. I'm getting incredibly depressed and frustrated. help?
[04:01] <xui3> escott: yea. if I drop to a shell can it be done?
[04:02] <escott> xui3, maybe im not sure. its what the initrd does, but i've never considered what happens to the initrd after the chroot
[04:02] <xui3> escott: any suggestions on what i might search for that would give me more info on how to go about it?
[04:02] <teligard> could someone look over this for me and tell me what I'm doing wrong?  http://pastebin.com/4kUTUQSc
[04:03] <escott> xui3, the problem with starting bash and then typing chroot is that isn't the chroot syscall but the chroot binary, which forks a new shell (so you have to exit twice)
[04:04] <xui3> escott: hmm
[04:05] <escott> xui3, but i would unpack the initrd (you can just gunzip it and loop mount it) and see what it does
[04:05] <sacarlson> doc|mobile: it's something like a setting for cleartype System > Preferences > Fonts > Rendering and Details...  It is the "ClearType" settings for Gnome, the default for which was not right for my monitor.  also look for anti aliasing
[04:06] <doc|mobile> sacarlson: I'm using xfce and I think I found it. Thanks!
[04:07] <sysadamin> i have a possibly silly question
[04:08] <sysadamin> when i connect to a VPN using nm-openvpn, where is the pid file writte?
[04:08] <sysadamin> its seemingly not writing a pidfile, when i would like it to
[04:09] <Sca> I'm running ubuntu 11.04.  How do I upgrade my version of Gimp (I've got 2.6.11)?
[04:09] <meet> i have got this windows based game which i want to install in lubuntu.any suggestions?
[04:10] <bazhang> !appdb | meet
[04:10] <bazhang> meet install wine, check the appdb /join #winehq for support
[04:10] <mayko> the mike is working. dunno what i did. maybe if i never touch pavucontrol again it'll be fine. fukkitall.
[04:10] <steve__> after my last update i lost video support and am a noob
[04:11] <bazhang> Sca, compile, or find a PPA, or upgrade version of ubuntu to more recent
[04:11] <meet> thanks bazhang
[04:11] <bazhang> steve__, video support for what
[04:11] <steve__> nvidia
[04:12] <bazhang> !details | steve__
[04:12] <steve__> i'm almost useless at the prompt
[04:12] <steve__> the last update about a week ago
[04:12] <Sca> bazhang, can you suggest the ppa that i need?
[04:12] <bazhang> steve__, just tell us, all on one line
[04:13] <steve__> when i rebooted it went to text
[04:13] <bazhang> Sca, search the ppa search page on launchpad yet?
[04:13] <bazhang> !addppa
[04:13] <roasted> Question - What DDNS clients do you guys use? I'm trying to find a free service that has a native linux update client.
[04:14] <osamaobama> How do I add "Desktop volume control"? It's not there any more and I don't know why or how to restore it. "System Settings > Startup Applications Preferences> [ x ] Show desktop volume control" does not help!
[04:14] <bazhang> steve__, yes, so its recovery mode? low graphics mode?
[04:14] <steve__> no just text
[04:14] <teligard> roasted: zoneedit
[04:15] <meet> osamaobama do you have the panel at top or bottom?
[04:15] <osamaobama> meet: Bottom.
[04:15] <wylde> roasted: no-ip , noip2 is in repos I believe
[04:15] <meet> right click it -> add items to panel
[04:16] <osamaobama> meet: That does not work either.
[04:16] <StepNjump_> Hi is anyone aware of a virus that was activated on 13 April Friday? A lot of my files were deleted on that date and I didn't do it.
[04:16] <osamaobama> meet: Thats the weird thing.
[04:16] <Sca> bazhang, thanks
[04:16] <meet> osamaobama: why? what happens when u right click it
[04:16] <osamaobama> meet: Nothing at all
[04:17] <osamaobama> meet: I only get options when I right click on icons
[04:17] <meet> osamaobama: what version r u using?
[04:17] <osamaobama> 11.10
[04:17] <osamaobama> meet: version 11.10
[04:17] <roasted> wylde: removed in 12.04 :(
[04:17] <roasted> wylde: thanks to debian pulling it, last I heard.
[04:18] <meet> osamaobama: i am using the same version. ok on right clicking the icons there should be a option like add/remove panel items. is it there?
[04:18] <roasted> wylde: I ran no-ip's tarball on 12.04 but it won't update... I left my rig run for 2 days and it was set for 30 min interval, no update
[04:18] <steve__> is there a command i can type to fix my video?
[04:18] <osamaobama> meet: No...
[04:18] <wylde> roasted: shame, I used it on my server. It's still 10.04 though. I don't see why the client they have wn't work still on 12.04.
[04:18] <osamaobama> meet: How do I reset my GNOME preferences?
[04:18] <bazhang> steve__, we need tons more info than "its only text"
[04:19] <osamaobama> meet: delete ~/.gnome*?
[04:19] <schultza> what is the best source control management?
[04:19] <roasted> wylde: not sure. The tarball is easy to install... make... make install... then it asks you for your acct email and pw, update interval, etc.
[04:19] <roasted> wylde: but it just aint updating here. makes me think I should take my ddns service elsewhere since Im not married to this url
[04:19] <wylde> roasted: wellt hat's a bugger. heh I'll be looking for a workaround at eol for it then. lol
[04:19] <steve__> sorry I'm sure it's a standard prompt
[04:19] <teligard> roasted:  there are scripts to update your ip
[04:19] <roasted> wylde: I might check out zoneedit that teligard recommended... haven't heard of that one.
[04:20] <roasted> teligard: scripts?
[04:20] <roasted> teligard: does it not work automatically when I put in my info?
[04:20] <wylde> roasted: neither have I. At least I have a while yet before EOL on 10.04 server, to have to worry about it :)
[04:21] <teligard> I've been using it for about 10 years now
[04:21] <teligard> Works well
[04:21] <steve__> oh I forgot to mention my display is a viewsonic that prefers 1280x1024
[04:21] <teligard> Let me see if they've made any new edits to automate the whole process.
[04:22] <wylde> teligard: yeah, I've been using no-ip that long, if not longer. At one point I even had a registered domain I managed with them. Shame their client isn't working in 12.04.
[04:22] <meet> osamaobama: using unity or gnome>
[04:23] <teligard> Wouldn't think it would be hard to tweak the code to work
[04:23] <roasted> teligard: how's this look? http://support.no-ip.com/customer/portal/articles/363278-installing-the-linux-dynamic-update-client
[04:23] <roasted> looks easy enough
[04:23] <roasted> I just had no idea you had to do more with it
[04:23] <wylde> roasted: I haven't used them before but I've seen dyndns listed in harware routers, no idea what state they, or their services are in currently though.
[04:23] <steve__> isn't there some kind of configurator i can run ?
[04:24] <schultza> !vcs
[04:24] <roasted> wylde: dyndns killed their free dns.
[04:24] <roasted> wylde: as a result, dyndns is dead to me. :D
[04:24] <wylde> roasted: ahh ok, good to know.
[04:24] <roasted> wylde: I think a lot of routers banked on using dyndns because, why waste time adding anybody else if dyndns is free?
[04:24] <schultza> roasted: what do you recommend?
[04:24] <meet> osamaobama: unity does not give the option to remove or add the indicators directly i guess. u can use gnome extentions using gnome tweak or sumthng like that
[04:25] <roasted> wylde: but I've had issues with routers updating it properly anyway. some work predictably, some dont, etc. alwyas hit or miss.
[04:25] <roasted> wylde: I much prefer the installed client for the server itself.
[04:25] <wylde> roasted:  true, but at the same time I was using no-ip lol.
[04:25] <roasted> schultza: for what?
[04:25] <teligard> I was going to say that wylde is the pro with no-ip, but what you sent me seems pretty straight forward.
[04:25] <roasted> teligard: that directed at me?
[04:25] <schultza> roasted: alternative free dyndns
[04:25] <teligard> roasted: yes, sorry :-)
[04:26] <wylde> :)
[04:26] <roasted> schultza: I've used free.afraid.org. Works great but terrible documentation on getting it working. no-ip has been decent so far, but I'm a little bummed their GUI got pulled from the repos (not no-ips fault, debians fault)
[04:26] <bazhang> roasted, this is getting offtopic
[04:26] <roasted> I think debian cited old code or potential bug or something with no active maintainer, so they pulled it. jerks. <_<
[04:26] <schultza> debian's or ubuntu's?
[04:26] <roasted> bazhang: hardly, we're discussing ddns in conjunction with linux. thanks though.
[04:26] <schultza> ah
[04:27] <bazhang> !ot | roasted schultza teligard
[04:27] <roasted> schultza: yeah, it came from debian, filtered down to ubuntu, from what I heard.
[04:27] <bazhang> roasted, wrong place for it
[04:27] <roasted> bazhang: again, no issue here.
[04:27] <roasted> wylde: you use no-ip on a server or desktop?
[04:27] <bazhang> roasted, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[04:27] <wylde> roasted: 10.04.4 server
[04:27] <roasted> bazhang: we're discussing an ubuntu issue here. thanks.
[04:28] <roasted> wylde: server as in, CLI?
[04:28] <wylde> roasted: CLI
[04:28] <horusofoz> will ubuntu 12.04 support usb3 on my asus z68-m Pro mobo?
[04:28] <teligard> bazhang: my apologies
[04:28] <bazhang> horusofoz, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[04:29] <sysadamin> nobody knows how to make network-manager write a pid file when connecting to an openvpn?
[04:30] <steve__> is there a noob chanel so i won't have to bother anyone with stupid questions?
[04:30] <teligard> steve__: there are no stupid questions
[04:30] <steve__> thnx
[04:30] <paulus68> steve__: questions are never stupid in my opinion everybody has gone through this process so shoot if we can help we will do so
[04:31] <teligard> I'd say that, atleast in the linux space, there's never a point where you know everything.
[04:31] <steve__> would it be easier to go back to my last known good or redo my video?
[04:31] <wylde> teligard: well, the one not asked usally = stupid question. :)
[04:32] <teligard> wylde: good point :-)
[04:32] <PakLang> hi guys
[04:32] <PakLang> anyone using 12.04?
[04:32] <teligard> Steve__: I generally try to go back to my last known good configuration
[04:32] <Ben64> steve__: try giving more details on the problem you're having, including what happened before
[04:32] <Ben64> !precise | PakLang
[04:34] <steve__> I updated to the next version of ubuntu and when i rebooted it went to the prompt
[04:34] <teligard> steve__: I would recommend, however, laying everything out as has been mentioned, because the more the detail, the easier to debug :-)
[04:34] <PakLang> canonical is developing ubuntu phones?
[04:34] <Ben64> steve__: from which version to which version? what video card?
[04:34] <steve__> I have a dell demension 4600 with nvidia
[04:35] <steve__> version 11 i think , the one that came out about two weeks ago
[04:35] <mgeneral> Anyone hearing of random logouts/lockups/reboots/Xorg crashes in 12.04 64bit?
[04:35] <Ben64> !precise | mgeneral
[04:36] <Ben64> steve__: are there any errors when you start ubuntu?
[04:36] <mgeneral> Thank you, I'm aware it is in beta testing. I'm trying to narrow down a bug and seeing if anyone else is experiencing the same thing.
[04:37] <teligard> steve__: cat /etc/*-release
[04:37] <Ben64> mgeneral: this channel is not for 12.04
[04:37] <teligard> it will give you the OS specifics
[04:37] <mgeneral> That's more helpful than your !precise | ;-)
[04:37] <steve__> not that i remember i can reboot to it and come back if it will help
[04:37] <Ben64> mgeneral: not if you read the entire message
[04:39] <steve__> before i do this how do i nshut down from text?
[04:39] <steve__> shutdown
[04:39] <teligard> steve__: I don'tthink that's necessary (probably running 11.10)
[04:39] <Ben64> steve__: poweroff
[04:40] <steve__> that sounds right
[04:40] <teligard> steve__: sudo shutdown -r now
[04:40] <teligard> for reboot
[04:40] <teligard> sudo shutdown -h now
[04:40] <teligard> to halt
[04:41] <steve__> thanx is there anything else i should check b4 i go
[04:42] <teligard> So, to the issue at hand.  You're running a Dell 4600 with an nVidia card, likely running 11.10
[04:42] <teligard> now for the problem you're experiencing
[04:42] <steve__> y
[04:42] <steve__> after my last update i lost my vid
[04:42] <teligard> If I remember correctly, you're unlable to log into X, and are being dropped directly to the shell
[04:43] <steve__> x server i think
[04:43] <teligard> correct?
[04:43] <teligard> ok
[04:43] <steve__> y
[04:43] <teligard> Did yuo make any changes to any config files (xconfig,etc)?
[04:44] <steve__> update might have
[04:44] <teligard> ok
[04:44] <wylde> !info jockey-cli
[04:45] <wylde> boo
[04:45] <teligard> Here is what I'd do: I'd try to find the system log file or x log file and review the last 50 or so lines
[04:45] <teligard> Which will probably layout the error(s) your running up against
[04:45] <steve__> isnt there a video config program i can run ?
[04:45] <teligard> wylde: do you knwothe path the the x log files?
[04:46] <steve__> n
[04:46] <wylde> /var/log/Xorg something. Moment
[04:46] <teligard> I know in older version there was xconfigurator
[04:46] <teligard> actually, xConfigurator
[04:47] <wylde> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:47] <steve__> how do i run xConfigurator
[04:48] <teligard> steve__: sometimes it's best to review the information generated by the OS/apps, as it may clear up things without potentially causing additional issues (plus you'll be a pro in no time regarding x server :-) )
[04:48] <Ben64> the nvidia install probably didn't carry over for some reason to the new version
[04:48] <steve__> ok what do u recomend
[04:48] <Ben64> should check the X log mentioned above to see why it isn't starting first
[04:49] <LukeNukem> are all the files inside init.d
[04:49] <LukeNukem> run automatically on startup
[04:49] <steve__> how do i do that?
[04:49] <wylde> steve__:  I always had to reinstall my nvidia drivers after an update that involved a kernel update. (when I was using the drivers fron nvidia itself).
[04:49] <Ben64> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[04:49] <teligard> steve__: cd /var/log
[04:49] <Ben64> then give us the resulting link
[04:50] <teligard> ok, thx Ben64
[04:50] <Ben64> wylde: the nvidia drivers should not be installed from the website with ubuntu
[04:50] <PakLang> any idea how to make ubuntu (using 12.04) green,save electricity/power consumption friendly?
[04:50] <steve__> it offered ver 93 the first time and another not recomended i think 117
[04:51] <wylde> Ben64: yep, I had problems after that so I just started using the ones supplied through jockey.
[04:51] <Ben64> PakLang: 12.04 support/discussion in #ubuntu+1
[04:51] <steve__> how do i fix it from the prompt?
[04:52] <teligard> Ben64: wouldn't you typically do and apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:52] <Ben64> steve__: you should give us the log file first
[04:52] <Ben64> teligard: no
[04:52] <teligard> as su
[04:52] <PakLang> ben thanks
[04:52] <PakLang> ben64
[04:52] <steve__> ok ill be back in a few thnx again
[04:53] <teligard> steve: I think what Ben64 is getting at is that it's best to make sure of the problem before trying to fix it (like using a sledgehammer on a fly)
[04:53] <Ben64> teligard: pretty much, yeah
[04:53] <wylde> teligard: !? how'd you know I was a millwright?! lol :P
[04:53] <teligard> lol :-)
[04:56] <blithen> This is the help irc right?
[04:57] <teligard> I'm still trying to resolve my @#$% network share issues.   It's like 11.10 has two files for mapping network paths on boot
[04:57] <teligard> blithen: for ubuntu 11.10 and lower
[04:58] <blithen> I'm having network issues in 11.10. I can connect wired no problem, I'm just having PAINFULLY slow speeds. Here's my network card info: http://pastebin.com/JxkQNgtA
[04:58] <teligard> Well, I should say 11.04/LTS adn 11.10
[04:59] <wylde> teligard: oh? Ummm, I don't believe 11.04 = LTS
[04:59] <teligard> I meant 11.04, 11.04LTS and 11.10
[05:00] <teligard> shoot.  My back
[05:00] <wylde> 10.04 LTS? lol
[05:00] <teligard> bad (the idiot coming out in me.... big suprise there)
[05:00] <manjusaka> hello
[05:00] <wylde> teligard: no worries, my fingers are quite frequently illiterate. lol
[05:01] <teligard> I try to pass things off as my fingers being dyslexic, but in this case, it was simple stupidity :-)
[05:02] <wylde> :)
[05:03] <tron1984> hello!
[05:04] <tron1984> how do I make ubuntu run perfect windows programs
[05:04] <schultza> is there a good guide for git installation?
[05:04] <bazhang> !appd | tron1984
[05:05] <bazhang> augh
[05:05] <tron1984> yes
[05:05] <bazhang> !appdb | tron1984
[05:05] <tron1984> !aapd?
[05:05] <bazhang> tron1984, install wine, check the appdb, /join #winehq for particular app help
[05:06] <gbaal> hi @all can I having an error  in installing ntfs configuration
[05:06] <gbaal> this is my error
[05:06] <gbaal> Traceback (most recent call last):
[05:06] <gbaal>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 972, in simulate
[05:06] <gbaal>     trans.unauthenticated = self._simulate_helper(trans)
[05:06] <gbaal>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 1096, in _simulate_helper
[05:06] <gbaal>     return depends, self._cache.required_download, \
[05:06] <FloodBot1> gbaal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <wylde> !pastebin | gbaal
[05:08] <gbaal> ok
[05:08] <teligard> could someone please review this (fstab) and tell me the errors of my ways?  http://past.ubuntu.com/933532     running Ubuntu 11.10.  On initial boot, the paths are mapped, however, if I have to unmount and remount, I get advised that I have errors in the fstab file.
[05:08] <tron1984> I have wime, what is aapdb
[05:09] <steve__> i learned how to shutdown and find my version but not get my log
[05:09] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org   <------ tron1984
[05:09] <tron1984> i have wine what is appdb
[05:09] <bobo37773> teligard: Wrong url
[05:09] <bazhang> tron1984, check there. then /join #winehq
[05:09] <bazhang> tron1984, I just told you
[05:09] <teligard> oops, http://paste.ubuntu.com/933532
[05:10] <teligard> Thanks bobo37773
[05:10] <schultza> !git
[05:11] <gbaal> Hi all I have an error --->http://paste.ubuntu.com/933536/
[05:11] <steve__> how do i get my log info?
[05:12] <tron1984> thanks
[05:12] <teligard> steve__: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[05:12] <teligard> provided you have pastebinit installed
[05:12] <bobo37773> teligard: The only thing I can think of is the space after the comma on column 4. Are you sure that spaces are okay like that in fstab. Notice how "nodev,noexec,nosuid" are all in the same column? Other then that I am not sure. That thing sure is messy looking though :p
[05:13] <teligard> If you don't, install in like this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:14] <steve__> how do i type that bar?
[05:14] <codemaniac> hello i am having problem with the layout of a lua conky
[05:14] <teligard> shift \
[05:14] <codemaniac> it was somehow shifted
[05:15] <steve__> thnx I'll be back|
[05:15] <teligard> k
[05:15] <gbaal> I having error in Ubuntu software Center --->http://paste.ubuntu.com/933536
[05:15] <gbaal> @all hi and thanks in advance^
[05:16] <bazhang> gbaal, what does installing from the command line do
[05:17] <gbaal> bazhang,  I just install java sun  -->http://softwareinabottle.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/install-sun-jdk-6-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[05:17] <bobo37773> teligard: Yeah I think those spaces are wrong.
[05:17] <shape> How can I use the terminal to go in my hard drive? I tried cd: /dev/sdb1: Not a directory
[05:17] <goddard> does MSN not work with linked accounts?
[05:17] <bazhang> shape, to do what?
[05:17] <teligard> bobo37773: I'll update and see hat happens :-)
[05:17] <ANub> shape: u need to create a directory and then use mount command to mount it on that
[05:17] <shape> bazhang: to view the folders
[05:18] <ANub> then u can get in the drive by cd to that directory
[05:18] <shape> but it won't copy everything to that directory correct? It would just be like a virtual directory
[05:19] <bobo37773> teligard: Yeah just change "credentials=/root/.xbmc/.smbcredentials, iocharset=utf8, file_mode=0777, dir_mode=0777" to "credentials=/root/.xbmc/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777"
[05:19] <ANub> shape: u can mount the drive with "wr" option meaning writing capability
[05:19] <ANub> then u can play havoc with it...:)
[05:19] <gbaal> bazhang, i did a sudo apt-get
[05:20] <shape> ANub: but how come nautilus just mounts it when i click on it that fast and I can change files, etc. yet in the terminal I can't cd to it.
[05:21] <shape> ANub: without doing what you suggested.
[05:21] <xtreme> hy
[05:21] <xtreme> hey*
[05:21] <xtreme> well, this is a embarresing question, but do i require antivirus for linux?
[05:21] <blithen> Im using Ubuntu 11.10 and cant connect to the internet using a wired connection.
[05:21] <teligard> bobo37773: It appears to be successful :-)  It's really strange, because I had only just recently added those spaces for readability when posting into pastebin.  Oh well, as long as it works :-)  Thank you so very much!
[05:21] <labkom> gdfgd
[05:21] <labkom> 245
[05:22] <ANub> shape: yeap NAUTILUS does that....but in the background same process is executed as ive mentioned
[05:22] <blithen> @Xtreme no.
[05:22] <teligard> blithen: I thought you just said it was going very slow
[05:22] <bobo37773> teligard: Yeah no problem. A lot of programs are like that. Glad to help
[05:23] <blithen> Yeah that changed apparently. :-$
[05:23] <shape> ANub: very interesting! Thanks a lot. Do you happen to have a link where I can read about mounting HDD and messing with the files?
[05:23] <teligard> blithen: have you tried "sudo ifconfig eth0 down"  and then waiting about 15 seconds and doing "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"  (this assumes that the interface that you are referring to is the eth0 interface)
[05:23] <codemaniac> hello
[05:24] <deper29> hey, I'm having some troubles. I *think* the problem is with java, but I'm not entirely certain. I am trying to build android from source(I know, different channel, but you guys are generally smarter). the output I'm getting when I try to build is http://pastebin.com/cUs48Dtk it seems to work fine on my other machine, so I'm not to sure what I'm doing wrong :S
[05:24] <ANub> shape: u can use "man mount" command from terminal
[05:24] <teligard> blithen: also, is the interface pulling an IP and the appropriate DNS settings?
[05:24] <codemaniac> can anyone tell me where i can upload screenshots like pastebin ?
[05:24] <ANub> all the options are available there
[05:24] <foo357> Hello, how can I "recursively" sum up the size of a particular kind of file in a directory?
[05:25] <shape> ANub thanks!
[05:25] <ANub> urw
[05:25] <gbaal> hi any idea what wen't wrong ---?http://paste.ubuntu.com/933536
[05:25] <Fyodorovna> codemaniac, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[05:25] <codemaniac> thanks Fyodorovna
[05:25] <Fyodorovna> codemaniac, np.
[05:26] <foo357> What I mean is that there is a directory with subdirectories, they contain files with a ending ".foo", how can I sum up the total size of all ".foo" files?
[05:26] <teligard> gbaal: as wth most items, this is out of my league
[05:26] <blithen> Teligard that seems to have fixed the nor connecting problem. And yes eth0 is pulling the right settings
[05:26] <teligard> gbaal: wish I could help
[05:26] <blithen> Not*
[05:26] <teligard> blithen: awesome
[05:27] <cfedde> is there some utility like keepass or passwordsafe on ubuntu?
[05:27] <blithen> Still getting slow speeds to  rhe update server though trying a different one noq.
[05:27] <bazhang> cfedde, keepassx?
[05:27] <blithen> The* now* im on my tablet lol.
[05:27] <codemaniac> http://imagebin.org/208452
[05:28] <teligard> cfedde: keepass is out for ubuntu as well
[05:28] <codemaniac> why my conky looks drifted?
[05:28] <codemaniac> any ideas
[05:28] <codemaniac> http://imagebin.org/208452
[05:28] <bobo37773> cfedde: keepassx
[05:28] <teligard> blithen: might try bringing up a browser and going out to http://speedtest.net
[05:29] <codemaniac> http://imagebin.org/208452
[05:29] <teligard> see if it's a problem with your connection speed, or the server you're trying to access
[05:29] <codemaniac> http://imagebin.org/208452
[05:29] <teligard> Those update servers can be pretty loaded down
[05:29] <cfedde> bobo37773 bazhang teligard thanks
[05:29] <codemaniac> any ideas ubuntuites?
[05:29] <bazhang> codemaniac, no need to repost that
[05:30] <deper29> anyone have any suggestions?
[05:31] <blithen> I keep having to bring it up and down to even keep a connection.
[05:31] <teligard> blithen: have you checked your cabling?
[05:32] <teligard> probably a stupid question, but thought I'd throw it out there
[05:32] <blithen> Yeah ill try restarting my router now
[05:33] <xtreme> just one question,  why we dont require av for linux?
[05:33] <xtreme> av = antivirus?
[05:33] <teligard> was going to say that the next step would be to ... bypass the router
[05:33] <cfedde> xtreme: no one seems to be targeting linux for viruses these days.
[05:33] <xtreme> everyone really hates windows
[05:34] <cfedde> windows is a bigger footprint.
[05:34] <teligard> Windows tends to be the "platform of choice" to exploitation.  The developers working on linux are much more responsive
[05:35] <teligard> xtreme: Windows has it's place, but other os's are better developed imho
[05:35] <bobo37773> The exploits are probably easier to write too.
[05:35] <cfedde> and it's easier to get admin priv on windows.
[05:35] <hateball> !ot
[05:35] <cfedde> most users run as admin.
[05:37] <ANub> ubottu: wats the difference between #ubuntu-offtopic and #defocus channels
[05:37] <teligard> blithen: how are you fairing?
[05:37] <ANub> :)........OK
[05:38] <shape> ANub: I did it, I mounted through command line, wohoo. Thanks!
[05:39] <shape> ANub: I understand now Nautilus makes that directory: "i.e. media/storage" is that correct?
[05:39] <ANub> shape:yeap
[05:39] <teligard> Well, thanks for helping me through my issues this eve, but I'm going to head off to bed.  I'll talk at you later :-)
[05:41] <xtreme> what are software like apt-get called?? and which other software like apt-get can i use with ubuntu?
[05:41] <Karmen> hello
[05:42] <dddyyyyyyyy> how i can install the same version of firefox on ubuntu? i'd like to install five firefox and five chrome on ubuntu
[05:42] <xtreme> only one question dddyyyyyyyy, why the hell u want to do it?
[05:42] <bazhang> xtreme, the package managers?
[05:42] <hemanth> xtreme, they are called package handling utility, aptitude is another one
[05:43] <Karmen> Is this the right place for help with Ubuntu server?
[05:43] <soreau> dddyyyyyyyy: maybe you want different users
[05:43] <dddyyyyyyyy> xtreme: for fun
[05:43] <ANub> I've got a question........Since Ubuntu is Opensource and freeware.....why new version is released every 6 months (too fast).....why cant Ubuntu just keep on fixing the issues and then major developments are released in new version
[05:43] <xtreme> yes, pakage managers. cools thanks. so which else can i use on ubuntu?
[05:43] <steve__> I'm back after some kind of upgrade when i did what u said it gave me http://paste.ubunu.com/933548/
[05:43] <darbe> hi guys
[05:43] <dddyyyyyyyy> soreau: i don't need different users
[05:43] <blithen> teligard, it's definitely my connection in ubuntu. I bypassed the router and it's still having troubles.
[05:44] <hemanth> xtreme, aptitude
[05:44] <steve__> btw that driver is nvidia 173.14.30
[05:44] <darbe>  I have upgrade error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/933552/
[05:44] <blithen> I'm gonna try 12.04, the only problem I had on there was sound coming out of only my headphones, I'd rather work through that then a no internet problem.
[05:44] <darbe> do you know why I get error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/933552/
[05:44] <xtreme> hemanth can i use yum too?
[05:45] <blithen> darbe, please don't spam.
[05:45] <hemanth> xtreme, yes; sudo apt-get install yum and use it
[05:45] <xtreme> and which else are there like apt-get and yum?
[05:45] <blithen> darpe, have you tried sudo apt-get update?
[05:46] <darbe> blithen: i am sorry. just i try to get attention
[05:46] <hemanth> darbe, Failed to process /etc/kernel/postrm.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic.postrm line 328 so you got the error
[05:47] <darbe> hemanth: how can i fix that?
[05:47] <darbe> hemanth: sudo apt-get -f install doean't work
[05:47] <Ben64> xtreme: yum on ubuntu is unsupported
[05:47] <hemanth> darbe, it's trying to remove linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic (--remove) and are you on the same?
[05:48] <hemanth> Ben64, sudo apt-get install yum, does install yum, no?
[05:48] <darbe> hemanth: what do you mean by are you on the same?
[05:48] <Ben64> hemanth: it does
[05:49] <hemanth> darbe, are you on 3.0.0-16?
[05:49] <steve__> did i send u a log?
[05:49] <darbe> hemanth: where can I check it?
[05:50] <hemanth> darbe,  uname -r
[05:51] <darbe> 3.0.0-17-generic
[05:51] <steve__> was i suposed to get http//... after typing cat/var ect.
[05:51] <gbaal> how can i have write access in ntfs?
[05:52] <Karmen> Does a Intel SE7501BR2 Dual CPU Socket 604 Motherboard Server Board work with Ubuntu Server?
[05:52] <penomosa> iii
[05:52] <darbe> hemanth: 3.0.0-17-generic
[05:53] <belaid> hey
[05:53] <Karmen> hello
[05:53] <belaid> any one here
[05:53] <hemanth> darbe, dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep 3.0.0.-17| awk -F' ' '{ print $2 }'
[05:53] <hemanth> belaid, no
[05:53] <belaid> any girls in here
[05:53] <tokinwhiteman> Hey guys, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 2, my ryhthymbox player freezes when i point the file path to my winodows music file, is that normal?
[05:53] <Ben64> !precise | tokinwhiteman
[05:53] <Karmen> Anyone that is willing to help another here?
[05:54] <belaid> am uograding to 2.04 now
[05:54] <darbe> hemanth: i did and then i upgraded it didn't worked
[05:54] <hemanth> darbe, what is there are /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic.postrm line 328
[05:56] <darbe> hemanth: 328   system ("run-parts --verbose --exit-on-error --arg=$version " .
[05:57] <steve__> I thought typeing cat/var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit would show me a log not a website?
[05:57] <hemanth> darbe, remove ur  linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic
[05:58] <brianp1992> i dare
[05:58] <darbe> hemanth:  let me try
[05:58] <hemanth> steve__, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log| pastebinit, yes; you need a space after cat
[05:58] <hemanth> brianp1992, i double dare
[05:59] <darbe> hemanth: i cannot I get same error
[05:59] <bobo37773> tokinwhiteman: Rhythmbox is a pretty heavy program with a lot of features and I have experienced it freezing from time to time on various distros.
[05:59] <hemanth> darbe, new error?
[05:59] <darbe> hemanth: same
[05:59] <steve__> ok what should happen to confirm i did itr right
[05:59] <hemanth> darbe, how are you removing it?
[05:59] <brianp1992> hemanth, i tripple dog dare
[05:59] <darbe> hemanth: sudo apt-get remove  linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic
[06:00] <xtreme> guys, how to run software under different username?
[06:00] <hemanth> darbe, do that dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep 3.0.0.-16| awk -F' ' '{ print $2 }' and sudo aptitude remove, to remove everything that is listed
[06:00] <brianp1992> sudo username
[06:00] <xtreme> thanks :)
[06:00] <hemanth> steve__, what are you getting?
[06:01] <brianp1992> np
[06:01] <darbe> hemanth: awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file `and' for reading (No such file or directory)
[06:01] <steve__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/933548/
[06:02] <hemanth> darbe, dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep 3.0.0.-16| awk '{ print $2 }'
[06:02] <hemanth> steve__, that means it's working fine
[06:02] <darbe> hemanth: it worked i think
[06:02] <steve__> ok now what?
[06:03] <silv3r_m00n> how to open gnome network manager from terminal ?
[06:03] <darbe> hemanth: i try to upgrade it is still not working
[06:03] <hemanth> steve__, what's ur problem?
[06:03] <hemanth> darbe, did you do a remove?
[06:03] <hemanth> darbe, from whatever  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep 3.0.0.-16| awk '{ print $2 }' listed
[06:04] <steve__> nvidia driver 173.14.30
[06:04] <darbe> hemanth: i don't think so
[06:04] <steve__> it was 93 at install
[06:05] <steve__> upgrade changed it i think
[06:05] <hemanth> darbe, you need to remove it
[06:05] <darbe> hemanth: how?
[06:05] <xtreme> microsoft is Mother-Fucking, Son-OF-A-Bitch corpration. why the fuck terrerist dont blow them up?
[06:07] <silv3r_m00n> ok nm-applet
[06:07] <bazhang> xtreme, that language and thinking has no place here
[06:07] <bobo37773> xtreme: It is better if people use windows. If everyone used gnu / linux then it would probably suck. Also, that is a little offtopic
[06:07] <bazhang> !guidelines | xtreme
[06:07] <steve__> how do i roll back vid driver?
[06:08] <Ben64> steve__: try running "sudo jockey-text"
[06:09] <steve__> just type that? then what?
[06:09] <Ben64> that should let you choose a driver to install
[06:10] <steve__> ben64 was that 4 me?
[06:10] <Ben64> yes
[06:10] <steve__> thnx brb
[06:20] <prime123> test
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Test
[06:21] <steve__> I'm not sure how but it booted fine that time but i tryed to get here in xchat but it would not start so i am back in pc linux
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> steve__: could you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:22] <steve__> now or in ubuntu?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> steve__: in ubuntu
[06:22] <kaushal> Hi
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Hi kaushal
[06:23] <kaushal> is there a way of popup when someone ping me in gmail on firefox ?
[06:23] <steve__> i'll try brb
[06:23] <kaushal> i mean gmail chat
[06:23] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: hi
[06:23] <kaushal> or chrome browser
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: in which application are you chatting?
[06:23] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: inside gmail interface
[06:24] <kaushal> i mean using browser
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: there may be an extension or addon for the browser. Pidgin can certainly do it
[06:25] <alphanum> hello
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> alphanum: howdy
[06:26] <alphanum> how are you?
[06:27] <alphanum> what ya doing?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> alphanum: on the way to work.
[06:28] <spy6> hi there
[06:29] <alphanum> ActionParsnip, can I make money please?
[06:29] <alphanum> sup spy
[06:29] <bazhang> !ot | alphanum
[06:29] <alphanum> bazhang: sry
[06:30] <cryptodira> i have just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04..... how do i make the bottom bar reappear and get my widgets back on the top bar?
[06:30] <spy6> i'm trying to start unity-2d via x2go ... until 12.04 it worked with starting "gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d" after connect ... starting unity-2d via lightdm works ... did there anything change?
[06:30] <spy6> when calling "gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d" via x2go the launcher doesn't appear
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Spy6: are you using precise now?
[06:30] <spy6> actionparsnip: yes
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Spy6: then ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[06:31] <spy6> actionparsnip: thanks ;)
[06:33] <savr> hi
[06:33] <bazhang> savr, hi
[06:33] <savr> my gem environment is pointing to rubygems 1.8.11 and to ruby 1.9.3
[06:34] <savr> how do I point rubygems to the correct version
[06:34] <savr> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for rubygems.
[06:35] <scientes> savr, there is a rubygems1.9.1 and rubygems1.8 in the repos
[06:35] <savr> scientes, no there isn't
[06:35] <scientes> savr, and the versions of rubygems does not track the version of ruby
[06:35] <sxlan3> how can i watch movies from ubuntu???...
[06:35] <savr> I only got rubygems at 1.8.11 and rubygems1.8
[06:36] <bazhang> sxlan3, dvd? or what
[06:36] <fidel> sxlan3: using some kind of movie-player app. there are tons available for ubunut (i.e. VLC)
[06:36] <sxlan3> online
[06:36] <scientes> savr, oh, you havn't install rubygems1.8
[06:37] <sxlan3> o mean....from cuevana.tv
[06:37] <savr> scientes, I tried it...
[06:37] <scientes> savr, it might be caused by lack of versioned depends, just type gem1.8
[06:37] <scientes> savr, or fix the link
[06:37] <bose> hello
[06:38] <scientes> savr, but you really should be using ruby 1.9
[06:38] <savr> gem1.8 is worse
[06:38] <scientes> the 1.8 series is EOL
[06:38] <savr>  - RUBYGEMS VERSION: 1.8.15
[06:38] <savr>   - RUBY VERSION: 1.8.7 (2011-06-30 patchlevel 352) [x86_64-linux]
[06:38] <FloodBot1> savr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:38] <scientes> savr, thats what you want
[06:38] <savr> scientes, I know I have nothing to do with ruby1.8
[06:38] <scientes> savr, oh, wait, the versions are just like that
[06:38] <savr> I don't want it on my system
[06:38] <scientes> savr, they are versioned seperately
[06:39] <scientes> savr, apt-get remove ruby1.8
[06:39] <savr> its been a headache trying to run 1.9
[06:39] <scientes> savr, apt-get install ruby-1.9.1-full (that IS 1.9.3, trust me)
[06:39] <_r00t_> Hi, this is strange .... can you upgrade from 11.10 to the beta via do-release-upgrade -d ? src : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta2
[06:39] <scientes> *ruby1.9.1-full
[06:40] <scientes> _r00t_, yes you can
[06:40] <savr> scientes, I have done all that. rails depends on 1.8
[06:41] <_r00t_> scientes: wow that's odd ! I'm sure you couldn't do that before ! :/
[06:41] <scientes> savr, gem install rails
[06:41] <savr> which is screwed up!
[06:41] <scientes> savr, gems are very poorely packaged, you just need to use the gem command
[06:41] <savr> ok
[06:42] <LinSkyrate>  anyone that have a Lenovo Edge E520? need pointers to get the video card running on better resolution, and sound keys on the keyboard are not working
[06:42] <savr> that should make life a lot easier
[06:42] <scientes> savr, but make sure to get rid of ruby1.8 first
[06:42] <LinSkyrate> im running kernel 3.2.6
[06:43] <bazhang> LinSkyrate, what version of ubuntu
[06:43] <savr> scientes, rials shouldn't even be packaged then
[06:43] <savr> thanks
[06:43] <scientes> savr, ruby gems package much better in debian
[06:43] <_r00t_> scientes: so once I upgrade to the beta will I be able to do-release-upgrade once 12.04 LTS goes live ?
[06:43] <scientes> !upgrades
[06:43] <bazhang> !final | _r00t_
[06:44] <scientes> bazhang, thats what i was looking for :P
[06:44] <scientes> savr, yeah ubuntu also has a broken rvm package
[06:44] <bazhang> LinSkyrate, that kernel is from where? and what version of ubuntu
[06:44] <scientes> savr, debian is currently alot more successful with gems, also fedora
[06:44] <savr> scientes, yep I complained about that yesterday and was told to go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:45] <_r00t_> ok thanks
[06:45] <LinSkyrate> bazhang, its from Backtrack 5 R2 (same in ubuntu clean install)
[06:45] <savr> scientes, java swt is also broken in ubuntu 12.4... maybe it should be 12.5 this year
[06:45] <bazhang> LinSkyrate, bt is not supported here
[06:45] <scientes> savr, the recent kernel update broke nvidia propritary
[06:46] <scientes> 3.2.0-20 +
[06:46] <scientes> 3.2.0-19 +
[06:46] <bazhang> !backtrack | LinSkyrate
[06:46] <bazhang> LinSkyrate, /join #backtrack-linux for support
[06:46] <scientes> savr, but gem1.9 itsself works
[06:47] <savr> scientes, i know right. I don't know how they plan for a LTS release in April.
[06:47] <scientes> debian and ubuntu really should become one project at some point
[06:47] <LinSkyrate> bazhang, thnx for you effort
[06:47] <scientes> savr, well, thats how they have always done it.....
[06:47] <savr> they never had so many broken packages
[06:47] <bazhang> savr, this is not the place for that
[06:48] <savr> ok
[06:48] <savr> ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Errno::EACCES)
[06:48] <savr>     Permission denied - /var/lib/gems/1.9.1
[06:48] <savr> does gem 1.9 require sudo now?
[06:49] <savr> gem 1.8 would prompt for the password when it required root
[06:50] <savr> scientes, rubygems is still pointing to 1.8
[06:51] <scientes> savr, do you have gem1.9 ?
[06:51] <_r00t_> dist-upgrade is confusing :/
[06:51] <scientes> *or gem1.9.1
[06:52] <savr> yes
[06:52] <savr> and it also is pointing to 1.8
[06:52] <scientes> savr, gem1.9.1 environment
[06:52] <scientes> savr, you need to be root to install gems
[06:53] <scientes> unless you use home installtion, its a command line switch
[06:53] <savr> ok
[06:53] <savr> but it is pointing to 1.8
[06:53] <scientes> you sure, paste gem1.9.1 environment
[06:53] <The_BROS> Skype lost sound. Help me to fix it
[06:54] <scientes> cause above it looks like its point to 1.9.1
[06:55] <savr> http://pastebin.com/qnQrgiGs
[06:55] <magn3ts> Ummmm.... how do I see what the ubuntu installer is doing?
[06:55] <magn3ts> And why, oh why is it telling me 'removing conflicting operating system files'
[06:55] <magn3ts> '
[06:55] <savr> 1.9.1 is the same output
[06:55] <gh0st> CONNECT irc.freenode.net
[06:55] <magn3ts> It should have formatted the drive.
[06:55] <gh0st> oops :P
[06:55] <magn3ts> asked another way, where the heck does ubiquity log to?
[06:55] <scientes> savr, thats pointing to the right place, the version of rubygems is not the version of ruby
[06:55] <magn3ts> The built in console is a useless joke
[06:55] <scientes>   - RUBY VERSION: 1.9.3 (2011-10-30 patchlevel 0) [x86_64-linux]
[06:56] <scientes> https://rubygems.org/ <--1.8.22 is latest version
[06:57] <magn3ts> Please. Can someone tell me where ubiquity logs to?
[06:57] <The_BROS> Anybody can help me with skype sound?
[06:58] <savr> scientes, rubygems was at version 1.8.15 while I still had ruby1.8
[06:58] <savr> so its gone done some versions
[06:59] <scientes> savr, rubygems is now part of ruby1.9+ source package, so you can complain against them for a package update, but things are working fine
[06:59] <scientes> might be too late for precise however
[06:59] <savr> meh ok thanks for all your help
[06:59] <Dadanopan> is there a way to change the icons displayed in the unity launcher?
[07:00] <scientes> Dadanopan, yes, they are listed in the respective .desktop files
[07:00] <coolroot> how can i change ubuntu logo from the upper left corner?
[07:00] <savr>  gem update --system is disabled on Debian....
[07:00] <scientes> savr, and for good reason....
[07:00] <savr> don't know why they are using an older version for ruby1.9 vs 1.8
[07:00] <savr> yeah I know
[07:00] <Dadanopan> scientes, thank you, where can i find the folder?
[07:00] <scientes> savr, it probably has to do with the import mechanisms from debian
[07:01] <scientes> Dadanopan, dpkg -L packagename | grep desktop
[07:01] <steve__> I'm back but now from ubuntu thnx guys youv'e been a great help can we use a mike ad or cam with this ap?
[07:01] <savr> is unity installable on debian
[07:01] <scientes> Dadanopan, and maybe dpkg -L packagename-common | grep desktop
[07:01] <savr> sounds like maybe I should switch :/
[07:01] <Dadanopan> scientes, i'll try it
[07:01] <scientes> savr, it would probably install cleanly, its just a compiz plugin
[07:02] <scientes> savr, you could also download and install rvm
[07:02] <savr> yeah I can also go to linux from scratch or slackware
[07:02] <scientes> well thats the mess that is ruby packaging
[07:03] <scientes> there is also debgem
[07:03] <scientes> never have used it however
[07:03] <scientes> fedora has a hot script to convert gems to rpms, and there is something like it for debs
[07:03] <savr> its nice to have ubuntu  keep you lazy
[07:03] <scientes> savr, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/gem2deb
[07:03] <syddraf> Has anyone had any success in setting up a PS3 Media Server on Ubuntu?
[07:04] <scientes> savr, but really, if you use ruby, you have to use gems, there is no way around it ATM
[07:04] <_genuser_> hello people.
[07:04] <_genuser_> This program is not developed anymore and is only provided for compatibility. Use avconv instead (see Changelog for the list of incompatible changes).
[07:04] <_genuser_> that's the output of ffmpeg on ubuntu.
[07:04] <scientes> _genuser_, what were you trying to do?
[07:05] <_genuser_> that's a warning on ffmpeg. is it just the ubuntu version that changed to avconv? or is it the actual software?
[07:05] <scientes> _genuser_, avconf is in libav-tools
[07:05] <scientes> _genuser_, its most likely upstream ffmpeg, or at the least debian, highly doubt ubuntu would do that
[07:05] <_genuser_> scientes: oh interesting.
[07:06] <_genuser_> the ffmpeg main page doesn't say anything tho.
[07:06] <coolroot> anyone? i want to change my ubuntu logon from the upper left corner to somethin hehe
[07:06] <scientes> _genuser_, but that is just for a specific functionality you are trying to use
[07:06] <scientes> _genuser_, and it could be ffmpeg calling some other program that is spitting out that warning
[07:07] <scientes> http://libav.org/
[07:07] <DrManhattan> has anyone here installed v4l-dvb?
[07:07] <scientes> _genuser_, libav is a ffmpeg thing
[07:07] <steve__> any info on the mike and or cam?
[07:07] <scientes> as you can tell by the similar web design
[07:07] <DrManhattan> I need to get a v4l2 interface for my dvb device
[07:07] <_genuser_> scientes: hmm, I just typed in ffmpeg <enter>. but as long as the program keeps development.... :)
[07:08] <azertyu> hello there
[07:09] <scientes> _genuser_, "FFmpeg is a complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video. It includes libavcodec - the leading audio/video codec library. See the documentation for a complete feature list and the Changelog for recent changes. "
[07:09] <scientes> _genuser_, i think they just want you to use the other command name
[07:10] <_genuser_> #ffmpeg says that ubuntu uses a fork that is renamed avconv. but the main app is still in dev.
[07:10] <scientes> ahh, wow then its a ubuntu thing
[07:10] <scientes> wow
[07:10] <Dadanopan> scientes, i've found the folder and changed the icon, should i logout and restart my session, becouse the icon didn't changed in the launcher.
[07:10] <scientes> Dadanopan, yeah you have to log out and in
[07:10] <Dadanopan> ok, thank u so much :)
[07:10] <scientes> Dadanopan, or do whatevertheycallthedipsplaymanagetnow --replace
[07:11] <scientes> its alt-f2 "r" in gnome-shell
[07:11] <kiama2005> Ubuntu 11.10 does not recognise the floppy drive any idea's
[07:11] <scientes> klaas, did it work previously? (have you plugged it in correctly, and correctly configured it in the BIOS)
[07:12] <Dadanopan> yes, but here in unity alt+f2 "r" dont work, i'll give it a try by log ou, and in. the icon already changed in the dash
[07:12] <kiama2005> Yes it did.
[07:13] <steve__> can we use a mike and cam in xchat?
[07:13] <scientes> steve__, no, IRC is a 25 year old protocol with no audio or video support
[07:13] <azertyu> i just reboot my machine , now i got a black screen where it written grub
[07:13] <scientes> steve__, but it has been used for file sharing with the DCC SEND feature
[07:14] <azertyu> something like that grub>   i don't know what i have to do ?
[07:14] <steve__> is there another program that does?
[07:14] <scientes> kiama2005, it worked in ubuntu too? (im not sure the device name, but i would suspect you have to manually mount)
[07:14] <coolroot> skype ym msn
[07:14] <coolroot> irc is a text-based chat
[07:14] <scientes> steve__, empathy, which is installed by default, and ekiga
[07:15] <coolroot> that makes it awesome!
[07:15] <scientes> steve__, empathy will work with Google Talk
[07:15] <Dadanopan> scientes, thank u it works :)
[07:15] <scientes> (which is also voice/video)
[07:15] <steve__> ok thnx
[07:16] <azertyu> anyone there ?
[07:16] <azertyu> i just reboot my machine , now i got a black screen where it written grub
[07:16] <azertyu> something like that grub>   i don't know what i have to do ?
[07:16] <scientes> Dadanopan, if you dont have root you can also use ~/.local/share/applications (not sure about last folder name)
[07:16] <scientes> azertyu, are you getting to initrd prompt?
[07:16] <kiama2005> Scientes How do I do that?  No mount  menu.
[07:17] <azertyu> i think the grub prompt
[07:17] <azertyu> scientes:
[07:17] <Dadanopan> scientes, ok i'll also try that but it works when i open nautilus with root
[07:17] <scientes> kiama2005, mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[07:18] <scientes> kiama2005, you might need mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
[07:18] <scientes> and that is for the A: floppy, /dev/fd1 is the B: floppy
[07:19] <scientes> Dadanopan, opening gui apps as root is risky, i recommend using nano to edit as root, there is alot less complexity and possibility for error
[07:20] <kiama2005> Scientes I will try both your suggestions  Thanks.
[07:21] <azertyu> anyone ?
[07:21] <scientes> azertyu, do you get an error from grub? like "root device not found"
[07:23] <codemaniac> hello how can i remove the upper panel in ubuntu 11.10 , i am using gnome classic
[07:23] <azertyu> n o error
[07:23] <scientes> azertyu, and you might also ask in #grub
[07:23] <scientes> azertyu, try holding shift while it boots, to get a kernel menu
[07:23] <codemaniac> the upper panel consists file edit view etc
[07:24] <azertyu> ok
[07:24] <codemaniac> hello how can i remove the upper panel in ubuntu 11.10 , i am using gnome classic nick
[07:32] <magn3ts> Can anyone please tell me where in this green planet ubiquity logs to?
[07:36] <magn3ts> this is just lies: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity
[07:36] <magn3ts> the files there either don't exist or contain nothing to do with ubiquity.
[07:45] <az3r> ؟
[07:45] <az3r> ممم في حدا بحكي عربي هون
[07:45] <az3r> :(
[07:50] <xharx__> when i try to use the update manager i get the following errors: http://pastebin.com/B48n9ekW. What can I do?
[07:52] <Wildbat> is there a free app that can ocr scaned multipages PDF files?
[07:52] <deper29> hey, I am having trouble with a library thing. I am getting this error: jar: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:52] <deper29> anyone know what that could be?
[07:52] <deper29> running 10.04 64 bit
[07:53] <matanya> xharx__: http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/
[07:54] <matanya> Wildbat: did you try gocr?
[07:55] <torpor> hi
[07:55] <torpor> can someone tell me why my fresh ubuntu 12.04 (32bit) install only sees 2gigs of the 8gigs of RAM in my PC?
[07:56] <matanya> yes
[07:56] <torpor> at BIOS boot the PC reports 8gigs, but 'free' within the booted system shows only 2gigs.
[07:56] <Wildbat> matanya, nope will do now :>
[07:56] <matanya> you are using 32 bit
[07:56] <torpor> yeah but isn't it possible to tell 32-bit kernel to use all 8-gigs of RAM?
[07:56] <matanya> torpor: 32bit can see up to ~3.5 gig
[07:56] <matanya> torpor: not a trivial way
[07:57] <xharx__> thx
[07:57] <torpor> ok so i have to switch to 64-bit .. drats.  i thought there was some trick with PAE that would sort it.
[07:57] <matanya> go with 64bit
[07:57] <DJones> torpor: You're probably better asking in #ubuntu+1 which is the support channel for 12.04 until its released, there may be a known bug that the people testing it will know about
[07:57] <torpor> DJones: thanks, will do
[07:57] <matanya> I doubt you get a better answer
[07:58] <torpor> i really thought it was possible to address more ram with 32-bit linux
[07:58] <matanya> it is, just not easily
[07:59] <matanya> better with a native 64bit syytem
[07:59] <matanya> *system
[08:00] <JohnnyricoMC> Performance-wise it's also better to use 64bit than to mess around with physical address extension
[08:01] <JohnnyricoMC> and more complex calculations (read: calculations with greater values) can be done in 64bit than in 32-bit, which means a theoretical performance boost.
[08:04] <pirx> hello! does anyone use a keylogger? i trioed "logkeys" from apt, but it just refuses to write anything to any logfile
[08:04] <Wildbat> matanya, no luck
[08:04] <pirx> i want to see how many times a day i write "ssh", hehe
[08:06] <matanya> Wildbat: last try - Tesseract
[08:06] <torpor> pirx: history | grep ssh
[08:07] <monadist> once you've searched something in vim.. say [esc] /searchthisword
[08:07] <monadist> how do you unhilight the matches after you're done
[08:07] <monadist> the hilight still shows for me even after i exit command mode
[08:08] <torpor> monadist: /sdofawefa
[08:08] <monadist> torpor, haha! that was clever :)
[08:08] <torpor> ;)
[08:12] <psypher246> hello all. I'm trying to get a 32bit version of Chromium and java to work on a 64bit system. I have downloaded chromium from http://www.chromium.org and java 7 32 bit and unzipped. Al per several instructions I found online the standard is to symlink libnpjp2.so to the /usr/lib32/chromium-browser/plugins/ folder. that did not work. I have also tried to symlink it to the /opt/google/chrome/plugins/ as well and have also tried the --enable-extensions
[08:12] <psypher246> switch when running the ./chrome-wrapper binary. any ideas?
[08:12] <FloodBot1> psypher246: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <torpor> df -h
[08:13] <pirx> torpor: the history doesnt work for 2 reasons unfortunately. 1(no date/time) 2(a shell doesnt write to the history file until it exits)
[08:13] <matanya> psypher246: why use 32bit?
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> hi everyone
[08:15] <matanya> pirx: add to .bashrc: export HISTTIMEFORMAT="%d/%m/%y %T "
[08:15] <matanya> this will solve problem 1
[08:15] <psypher246> matanya: cos I have several java apps that dfon't work on 64bit java and linux
[08:15] <matanya> hmm
[08:16] <matanya> I really hate mixed 32/64 system
[08:16] <matanya> sorry, don't know.