[12:41] <xperia> hello to all. i have a small question about a missing package.
[12:41] <xperia> i have searched to find the package opie but didnt had any luck till yet.
[12:41] <xperia> does anybody know if opie is available as a package for the arm structure
[12:41] <xperia> here is a nice build how to by the way that works great
[12:41] <xperia> http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/BuildOpie
[12:41] <xperia> i need it only now for the arm arch
[12:42] <persia> xperia: Which package seems to be missing?
[12:44] <xperia> opie itself http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/BuildOpie
[12:44] <xperia> open embedded has this package. angstrom too
[12:44] <xperia> only ubuntu mobile is missing it
[12:46] <persia> Which package?
[12:46] <persia> As far as I can tell, that "opie" is a collection of stuff.
[12:47] <xperia> persia: http://gitorious.org/opie/opie
[12:48] <xperia> well it is same like gpe only from my side of view sometime better
[12:48] <xperia> it can easy be build in less than 30 min with this instruction
[12:49] <xperia> http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/BuildOpie
[12:49] <xperia> i have allready builded it and on open embedded it can be builded it too as the recipes exist
[12:49] <xperia> it is however missing in ubuntu mobile
[12:51] <persia> Used to be available.  Let me see if I can figure out why it's gone.
[12:54] <xperia> persia: ohhh wooow if it could be maked availble especially also for the arm arch this would be awesome.
[12:54] <xperia> Opie is still developed as you can see on gitorious.
[12:54] <xperia> opie has a full desktop with full working mail programms, multimedia programms and so on.
[12:54] <xperia> some screenshots of the the older releases
[12:54] <xperia> http://opie.handhelds.org/gallery/main.php
[12:55] <persia> We try really hard not to make anything available for only one architecture.
[12:55] <persia> So that people can use the same mobile environment whether they have i386/armel/powerpc handhelds.
[12:57] <xperia> persia: ohh woow this would be a heavy boost for this quite good gui for mobile devices
[12:57] <xperia> it is allready used on some mobile pocket pc phones
[12:57] <xperia> http://i37.tinypic.com/144b90o.jpg
[12:57] <xperia> http://i37.tinypic.com/24mhqps.jpg
[12:57] <xperia> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kovsky Linux
[12:59] <xperia> if opie would be availble for ubuntu-mobile this would be the perfect thing as it would increase the possibility running ubuntu mobile on the newest pocket pc successfull
[12:59] <xperia> at the moment most of th linux ditro runns on angstrom or oe
[13:00] <persia> Unfortunately my debtags search is eating my browser.
[13:00] <xperia> it should be very easy to compile it as described on the step by step build instruction. i have build it more than once successfull. if you have any question just ask.
[13:00] <persia> My suspicion is that some time in 2004 or 2005 someone stopped maintaining opie in Debian, and it got dropped for lack of further interest.
[13:03] <xperia> the maintainer told me this too as some deb packages should be availble. but opie is still developed and used. last patch is from
[13:03] <xperia> Thursday February 04 2010
[13:03] <xperia> http://gitorious.com/opie/opie
[13:03] <xperia> i am working on opie too as a hobby coder :-)
[13:04] <persia> I can't find any good links that indicate when it was or wasn't added or removed from Debian.
[13:04] <persia> My strongest recommendation would be to work at getting it into Debian.
[13:04] <persia> This will then also be available in Ubuntu and all other Debian derivatives.
[13:05] <xperia> so i should try at debian in this case
[13:06] <persia> xperia: That's my recommendation, just because Debian has maintainers, so there's a better chance of keeping it there.
[13:06] <persia> Adding stuff to Ubuntu that doesn't get added to Debian is usually a temporary matter except for special stuff highly interesting to some specific Ubuntu flavour.
[13:09] <xperia> okay i have allready asked at the debian chanell
[13:11] <persia> OK.  Please feel free to ask more here if you have questions or need help.
[13:11] <persia> I just think it needs someone to care for it, and just tossing it in the repository is not best.
[13:13] <xperia> well they have told me to package it but i have no experience with packaging it. if somebody would help me the first time i would do it however
[13:14] <persia> I could certainly do that, but not right now.  Would you be available around this time tomorrow?
[13:15] <persia> Err, no, that won't work :/
[13:15] <persia> So a little later than now tomorrow, or another day or another hour, catch me here.
[13:16] <xperia> yeah great ! then we see us tomorow some hours later than yet or another day
[13:16] <xperia> thanks persia :-)
[13:17] <persia> Happy to help.
[13:47] <xperia> persia: or to others for some strange reason opie exist in ubuntu
[13:47] <xperia> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opie/2.40~dfsg-0ubuntu1
[13:47] <xperia> it need just to be updated
[13:48] <persia> xperia: That's a different "opie", isn't it?
[13:48]  * persia thought that was a smartcard thing
[13:49] <xperia> well the whole discussion is done on debian-arm
[13:49] <xperia> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511582
[13:50] <xperia> it should be the same package from my point of view
[13:50] <xperia> maybe it just dont has everything enabled like mp3 players email programms and such as this can be set all optional to be builded
[13:51] <persia> See, the current "opie" package is a one-time passwod manager.
[13:51] <persia> You7re talking about a *different* opie.
[13:52] <xperia> yeah the people at debian told me that too but this is very strange why does they use the same name for this programm
[13:53] <persia> That happens a lot.
[13:53] <persia> Most folk don't seem to check carefully before choosing a name.
[13:57] <persia> Looks like opie the password management system started in 1995, and opie the environment started. in 2001
[13:58] <xperia> hmmm ha ha ha very strange
[14:00] <persia> heh.
[14:00] <xperia> but the very strange thing is that this person develop also the libpam-opie that is used in the palmtop environment too
[14:00] <xperia> for example opie-server that sync with the palmtop environment
[14:01] <persia> heh.
[14:03] <xperia> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=553416
[14:04] <xperia> the whole packages are 100% related to opie
[14:05] <xperia> need maybe to cantact him and ask what is the actuall process
[14:10] <xperia> persia: it looks like really this programms are not related to opie palmtop environment
[14:11] <persia> I don't think it's related at all, actually.
[14:13] <xperia> yeah. i can only remember that libpam was used in opie while the compiling. thats why i have thinked they are related to opie palmtop environment especially for syncing purposses
[14:13] <xperia> thanks for the clarification
[14:17] <xperia> okay see you all next time. bye !
[14:27] <persia> NCommander: Hey!
[14:27] <NCommander> persia: sorry about that
[14:27] <persia> Are you still using Android?
[14:27] <NCommander> persia: yes, and still doing some upstream hacking on it
[14:28] <NCommander> (low level, but I know how to port android to new platforms)
[14:28] <persia> Is the hack to use the test demo environment to run inside Ubuntu still viable?
[14:28] <persia> Also, has the issue that it requires the binary-only Java been resolved?
[14:28] <NCommander> persia: using SIMULATOR mode?
[14:28] <NCommander> no
[14:28] <persia> yeah.
[14:28] <persia> no?
[14:28] <persia> What happened?
[14:28] <NCommander> I believe that got ripped out with eclair
[14:28] <NCommander> it was depricated with android 1.0
[14:29] <NCommander> And its the wrong way to do it, we should properly expose /dev/binder for the Android userspace
[14:29] <persia> Can we?
[14:29] <NCommander> persia: its required to build Android, but it might be fixable to use icetea instead (there are some issues with building older Android releases on Java 6, but I think patches landed with 2.1 to finally fix that, I can poke in android-porting if need be)
[14:30] <NCommander> persia: I think we have the android bits in the kernel in staging. It should be a matter of flipping them on, and recompiling
[14:31] <persia> That's all?
[14:31] <NCommander> persia: well, Android isn't X based
[14:31] <NCommander> so basically, what we need to bring android up is the following
[14:31] <NCommander> 1. android ported to x86 (there are two separate projects that do this)
[14:32] <NCommander> 2. /dev/binder support
[14:32] <NCommander> 3. chroot environment
[14:32] <NCommander> 4. Allocate  arange of UIDs for android to use (android assigns each app its own UID for security reasons)
[14:32] <NCommander> 5. Either trap writes to /dev/graphics/fb0 or use androidvncserver and some voodoo
[14:33] <persia> Why do we need x86?
[14:33] <NCommander> persia: dalvik has platform specific bits. Unless you want to run Android in an emulator
[14:33] <persia> I'd rather use a VNC server.  What sort of voodoo?
[14:33] <persia> chroot is easy.
[14:33] <NCommander> persia: android assumes /dev/graphics/fb0 is going to be there. You'll have to teach it thats its not, and just use VNC instead
[14:34] <amitk> NCommander: android drivers were removed from the mainline kernel staging
[14:34] <persia> NCommander: Why use an emulator?  Why not just run on hardware to which it's ported for now, and encourage bugfixing for the rest.
[14:34] <NCommander> persia: because any android app that uses the NDK would then not run
[14:34] <NCommander> amitk: ugh, reason?
[14:35] <amitk> unmaintained by google, no fixes to move them to drivers
[14:35] <persia> NCommander: Hrm?  I'm confused.  Tell me why I need porting to x86 or an emulator to run on my Netwalker.
[14:35] <NCommander> amitk: ****, there goes the easy flip switch for binder. How hard would it be to add to our mainline
[14:35] <NCommander> persia: oh ... ugh
[14:35] <NCommander> persia: I didn't think about that. I still think netbook == i386 :-/
[14:36] <persia> Silly.
[14:36] <NCommander> persia: you'd still want to use android-x86, since it has support for mice and not just touchpads
[14:36] <persia> There's i386, powerpc, and armel hardware out there mostly.  Some amd64 stuff is coming out recently as well.
[14:36] <amitk> NCommander: we won't do it (apply a random unmaintained patch with no hope of being mainlined) unless you have a very good reason, as always :)
[14:37] <NCommander> persia: android isn't 64-bit clean last time I checked unfortunately, so it won't run on amd64 unless you want the pain of porting it
[14:37] <persia> amitk: Is this an Ubuntu Kernel position?  What if they were pushed mainline?
[14:37] <NCommander> persia: google made comments saying that they weren't interested in mainlining
[14:37] <amitk> persia: we had in enabled in staging in Karmic
[14:37] <amitk> *it
[14:37] <persia> NCommander: That's fine.  I don7t really care about porting right now.  I can live with just armel for a while.
[14:37] <persia> amitk: Ah, I understand.
[14:38] <amitk> persia: NCommander: best write to ubuntu-kernel ML if you want the official version of the story
[14:38] <amitk> this is the abridged version
[14:38] <persia> amitk: First I want to find out how big a project the whole thing ends up being :)
[14:38] <NCommander> amitk: roughly speaking, how large is /dev/binder suppotr?
[14:38] <NCommander> *support
[14:40] <amitk> NCommander: dunno, but look at sha id b0a0ccf in git for the commit that removed them


[00:33] <mup> Issue operator#801 opened: `RelationDataContent.__setitem__` should dynamically dispatch to a file if it's too long <Created by rbarry82> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/801>
[11:30] <mup> PR operator#802 opened: Fix docstring <Created by zmraul> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/802>
[12:15] <mup> PR operator#802 closed: Fix docstring <Created by zmraul> <Merged by jnsgruk> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/802>
[15:38] <mup> Issue operator#803 opened: It's easy to access stale relation data in the testing harness <Created by pengale> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/803>


[01:18] <Balsaq> is anyone here who can help with a small problem?
[01:31] <Balsaq> i need to adjust my screen brightness and kubuntu cant do it
[01:34] <Drecondius> How can I check the boot logs for a live distro? I caught a message about a hardware error and It keeps fading before I can read it. I'm on a laptop and the kernel doesn't seem to recognize my fn key
[01:34] <Drecondius> rather the key combo
[01:34] <Balsaq> yeah similar to my problem
[01:35] <Drecondius> it wouldn't be much of a problem except 18.04.1 seems to like this alienware even less than 16.04.1
[01:36] <Balsaq> kubuntu does not recognizes it own brightness/dimmer switch or my Fn funtion to do same thing
[01:36] <Balsaq> so it is going to kill my laptop battery fast
[01:37] <Drecondius> well, for me it doesn't recognize the touchpad, home,end,delete / prntscrn, pause, insert combos
[01:37] <Balsaq> damn
[01:38] <Drecondius> but it has NO problem with a logitech g910 ....
[01:38] <Drecondius> i even get events for the macro keys
[01:38] <Drecondius> fml
[01:38] <Balsaq> no ryme or rreason to what they do
[01:38] <Balsaq> just nleave stuff out
[01:38] <Drecondius> minor issues to be honest, the events are firing but not recognized
[01:39] <Drecondius> the keystroke events
[01:39] <Drecondius> If i was to build this with persistance, could i force it to log the boot?
[01:40] <Drecondius> if I can't get logs otherwise?
[01:40] <Balsaq> and it gets worse...if i go back to xubuntu it All works
[01:40] <Balsaq> i just had xubunut and the brightness worked
[01:40] <Balsaq> can u beleive it
[01:41] <Drecondius> I can. Xfce is awesome when You want things to just work oob
[01:41] <Drecondius> except for this blasted alienware
[01:41] <Drecondius> it hates it too
[01:41] <Balsaq> ima have to go back then
[01:41] <Balsaq> i would of thought kubuntu was much more advanced
[01:42] <Drecondius> You could, in theory just install KDE on top of Xubuntu
[01:42] <Balsaq> would it look like this alll over
[01:42] <Drecondius> only if you did kubuntu-desktop
[01:42] <Drecondius> but
[01:42] <Balsaq> wouldnt that break my brightness contro lall over
[01:43] <Balsaq> u could do same try xubuntu
[01:43] <Drecondius> I'm guessing that no live distro logs boot without persistance
[01:44] <Balsaq> kubuntu is onlky using a half gb a ram
[01:44] <Balsaq> weird
[01:44] <Balsaq> not much more than xubuntu
[01:44] <valorie> adjusting light/dark and all other fn keys work here
[01:44] <Drecondius> You on a live distro?
[01:44] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.14.2 on Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) powered by Linux 4.18.0-10-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 2599-2600/3800 MHz, RAM: 30493/32118 MB, Storage: 374/1144 GB, 235 procs, 261.5h up
[01:44] <Drecondius> persistence*
[01:44] <Balsaq> i have intel i5 here and it doesnt work
[01:45] <valorie> there is xkey or something where you can map keys
[01:45] <valorie> but I've never had to do it
[01:45] <Balsaq> id prefer to just use the OS
[01:45] <Drecondius> this is a 2011 alienware 14 lol. I'm not worried about the function keys atm. I just need to check the boot logs for the hardware errors.
 Do the brightness keys not work or does the battery/brightness widget next to clock also not work?
[01:47] <Drecondius> they left.
 dang, telegram does not advertise when people exit
[01:48] <Drecondius> pidgin or konversation :D
 yep :)
[01:49] <Drecondius> now firefox loads ....
[01:52] <Drecondius> can i open a terminal directly in a folder?
[01:52] <Drecondius> nvm
[01:55] <Drecondius> is there a slightly more technical channel i ca go to?
[01:55] <Drecondius> can*
[01:56] <Drecondius> syslog says my bios is broken
[01:58] <Drecondius> or is it because it's a live distro that doesn't have the intel microcode running?
[02:13] <Drecondius> here is the first error, I need a little insight here : https://hastebin.com/iperabonih.sql
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> It probably isn't specific to Kubuntu, so you could try #ubuntu
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> There's usually a more active crowd there
 ugh, for some reason whatever I type in irc disappears
 oh well, telegram works
[02:18] <Drecondius> so does kde require a reboot or does a simple logout work when enabling the non-free nvidia drivers
 Drecondius in Dolphin you can open a terminal
[02:18] <Drecondius> already figured that out lol
 ok, cool
 nvidia requires a reboot, not "kde"
[02:19] <Drecondius> not on mate or gnome with lightdm
[02:19] <Drecondius> just log out and back in
[02:19] <Drecondius> hence the question.
[02:20] <Drecondius> almost double posted.
 hmmm
 ok, you can try that
[02:20] <Drecondius> gdm requires a reboot, but this is the plasma stack so I don't know squat about it.
 imo one is just as easy as the other so I've never tested it
[02:21] <Drecondius> i'll give it a shot, see if this helps the tearing
[02:24] <Drecondius> I may not be using Kubuntu :(
[02:24] <Drecondius> I only have 3.83 gb ram usable
[02:25] <DarinMiller> what model nvidia card?
[02:25] <DarinMiller> 3.83 GB is plenty of ram for KDE.
[02:25] <Drecondius> not for kde and modded Minecraft
[02:25] <Drecondius> sysinfo says i'm using the intel hd
[02:26] <DarinMiller> how much ram does MC consume?
[02:26] <Drecondius> 5-8 if you let it
[02:27] <Drecondius> Enigmatica 2 and All the Mods 3 both require a minimum of 6gb to run playably
[02:27] <Drecondius> it's due to the system taking 2gb for the video
[02:28] <Drecondius> Maybe if I can find how to activate drivers I can alleviate 2gb overhead
[02:30] <Drecondius> the discrete on here is an Nvidia 750 GT with 2GB ram dedicated to the card
[02:31] <DarinMiller> eliminate screen tearing by turning on Force Comp. Pipeline in the NVida Setting menu.
[02:31] <Drecondius> have to enable nvidia binary first
[02:32] <DarinMiller> yep
[02:32] <Drecondius> what's this meta package in the management software, is it for the latest untested drivers?
[02:33] <DarinMiller> not sure what you mean by meta package...
[02:34] <Drecondius> it's got a listing for the 340 binary and a meta package then noeveau
[02:34] <Drecondius> it won't logout
[02:35] <DarinMiller> the 750GT should use the 396 driver, not the 340.
[02:36] <DarinMiller> Live session won't logout?
[02:36] <valorie> you can add them via systemsettings or use the PPA for the newer drivers if necessary
[02:36] <valorie> oh, live session
[02:36] <DarinMiller> The 340 driver has an issues with logout shutdown after install.  But you should not use that driver with your card.
[02:37] <Drecondius> i know i shouldn't, as it never functions properly on any distro
[02:38] <Drecondius> idea
[02:38] <Drecondius> brb
[02:38] <Drecondius> I hope
[03:38] <drecondius> Ok, I'm back anyone that I was speaking with still here?
[03:38] <valorie> nope
[03:38] <drecondius> Well hello there :P
[03:38] <drecondius> Ok, NOW it has much less ram used and it's using swap
[03:39] <drecondius> so I have my 7ish GB ram
[03:39] <drecondius> working ram anyways lol
[03:40] <drecondius> So, it would appear that It didn't create an efi entry
[03:40] <drecondius> I had to reboot to kubuntu after an install via usb then boot to hd.
[03:40] <drecondius> any idea as to why?
[03:41] <drecondius> or do i need to install grub and have it take over duties?
[03:41] <drecondius> if it's not already installed that is?
[03:42] <drecondius> that'll be after updates
[03:49] <valorie> grub should have been automatically installed
[03:49] <valorie> when you rebooted, didn't you see it?
[03:50] <valorie> if not, perhaps run repair-grub or update-grub
[03:50] <valorie> !grub
[04:43] <drecondius> How well does this distro handle Optimus laptops?
[04:49] <valorie> !optimus
[04:50] <valorie> I don't honestly know -- I don't hear complaints but that might mean people just don't use kubuntu with optimus
[04:51] <valorie> or it could mean that nvidia-prime is flawless
[04:51] <valorie> :-)
[05:45] <drecondius> bah, have to reinstall due to it running in mbr instead of efi
[05:46] <drecondius> but at least it's a clean install otherwise so nothing lost
[05:49] <hateball> well you *can* fix it afterwards, but if it's a clean install it's likely faster to reinstall
[05:54] <drecondius> it is lol, it didn't hit me that it wasn't efi until after the 4th or 5th reboot and it not booting into grub lol
[05:55] <drecondius> it's a dual boot with windows atm because I'm not the only one that uses this laptop and everyone else is scared to try to learn something familiar yet different.
[05:55] <hateball> heh
[05:56] <drecondius> umm, how big is an efi partition, windows is showing it's efi is 104mb do i need to give kubuntu one that big too?
[05:57] <drecondius> I've never really paid that much attention before to them.
[05:57] <drecondius> usually just wiped out everything on the drive
[06:01] <hateball> the EFI partition is shared
[06:02] <drecondius> so i can get away with just setting up a grub partition and letting it go from there then
[06:03] <hateball> drecondius: grub is stored on the EFI/ESP partition
[06:04] <hateball> and then loads your kernel from /boot on your "normal" partition
[06:04] <hateball> !efi
[06:04] <drecondius> Yeah, I was just realizing that after you said it that all I have to do is define my root.
[06:05] <drecondius> and a small swap as well
[06:07] <drecondius> and assuming I managed this correctly, I'll boot into grub, if I didn't I'll be kicking myself for being lazy and wiping out 200GB of Steam Library
[06:07] <drecondius> then my son will kick me too
[06:36] <valorie> maybe run a quick backup of that steam folder?
[07:33] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with the global menu bar. I have a panel on the left side and the menu bar on top, but sometimes parts of the menu bar are hidden below the vertical panel. Is there a way to shorten the menu bar, so that is starts were the vertical panel ends?
[08:16] <Captain_Haddock> Is anyone else getting hash-sum mismatches when running apt-get ?
[08:19] <ackeronuk> which mirror?
[08:23] <ackeronuk> main and gb mirror seem to update ok
[08:29] <Captain_Haddock> ackeronuk: Thanks. Switching to GB helped. I'd tried both India and the Main server.
[08:29] <Captain_Haddock> Any idea why this has been happening only recently?
[08:30] <ackeronuk> it just happens every so often with mirror synchronisation
[08:31] <ackeronuk> usually sorts itself out. sometimes, not very often, needs some mirror admins to kick things
[08:31] <ackeronuk> it happens with such a big network
[08:36] <Captain_Haddock> It just seems to be happening with alarming regularity nowadays. I've never encountered it before.
[08:38] <Doow> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade 18.04 to 18.10 with "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" and I get "Upgrades to the development release are only available from the latest supported release."
[08:40] <Doow> For some reason lsb_release -a doesn't say anything about kubuntu, but just mentions ubuntu, is that normal? (when running kubuntu I mean =) )
[08:55] <ackeronuk> Doow: 18.10 is not the development release, so you should not be using the -d
[08:55] <ackeronuk> the -d is ONLY intended for updating to the devel release
[08:56] <ackeronuk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CosmicUpgrades/Kubuntu
[08:59] <Doow> ackeronuk: That was it, thank you!
[09:03] <ackeronuk> Doow: great. a lot of blog sites wanting to jump the gun on upgrade instructions falsely include the -d, as it might work ok for a short period pre-post release. wrong to advise it though
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:08] <pbourke> since the clocks went back an hour my clock widget is showing the wrong time (the system clock is correct)
[12:09] <pbourke> anyone seen this bug?
[12:13] <ackeronuk> clock is ok here
[12:24] <Captain_Haddock> Hi BluesKaj :)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi Captain_Haddock
[12:26] <Captain_Haddock> I've seen that many people have a dual monitor setup. How do you use yours with KDE? Any tips or tricks?
[12:26]  * Captain_Haddock recently got one working but I don't seem to use it much. ALT + TAB still seems to be more effective.
[12:27] <Captain_Haddock> I've gotten some apps to open in the second monitor and it's kinda handy when I have a full screen app and I want to use the browser oslt.
[12:29] <Javabean> my current "second monitor" is a tv, so i usually have a twitch stream/ youtube video/ etc running on it.  sometimes however i just let my random wallpapers run wild on it and it becomes something to refocus my eyes on hoping to reduce eyestrain by occasionally looking at it.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Captain_Haddock, I'm a home user and use my TV as a monitor so no need for multiple screens here, hence no experiennce with them
[13:25] <rgvon> How to change my default text editor to Sublime for all files? I am able to change it manually for a particular file type (like .cpp) by doing right-click->properties.
[13:25] <rgvon> I am using Kubuntu 18.04.
[15:54] <Quantos> Hey guys, this is probably an easy one, I have two monitors and both are working flawlessly, but programs that I open are opening on the secondary monitor instead of the primary monitor.  Is there a setting to get them to open on the primary?  KUbuntu 18.04
[15:54] <Quantos> Oh, and GT 1030 with the nVidia driver
[15:59] <drecondius> How do I change the identity that I log in with via ssh?
[16:01] <drecondius> because it's trying to use my local host name and I don't need that one and the -l tells me invalid hostname
[16:20] <Alexfrench> https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/multi-ecran
[16:24] <Quantos> Unfortunately I don't read French, so.....
[16:26] <Alexfrench> bha learn
[16:27] <Alexfrench> do you think i am english ?
[16:28] <Quantos> I don't really care what language you can speak or read
[16:28] <Quantos> I only know the ones I can read and speak
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Alexfrench, well if you want to post urls here, they should really be in English
[16:28] <Quantos> And I'm still learning french
[16:29] <Alexfrench> rhha i know but really it isn't hard to make efforts
[16:29] <Quantos> That shoe goes on your foot too
[16:29] <Quantos> Or do you think you're special?
[16:30] <Alexfrench> so ok i close my mouth
[16:30] <Quantos> Fair enough, so will I
[16:54] <rgvon> Unable to use tap and drag gesture of touchpad on Kubuntu 18.04. I am able to select the icon but it doesn't get dragged. I am able to use all other functions of touchpad.
[16:54] <rgvon> Please help.
 System Settings -> Input Device -> Touchpad : Select Mouse Click Emulation
[17:12] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with the global menu bar. I have a panel on the left side and the menu bar on top, but sometimes parts of the menu bar are hidden below the vertical panel. Is there a way to shorten the menu bar, so that is starts were the vertical panel ends?
[17:16] <Captain_Haddock> Javabean: BluesKaj: Thanks. (I forgot about my question.)  Are your TVs on your desk or are they a long way away?
[17:16] <Mrokii> I think I just answered my own question (kind of)... I added a spacer to the left side of the menu bar.
[17:16] <Captain_Haddock> And is there any way to screen timeout the second monitor?
[17:17] <IrcsomeBot1> <Matheus Vinicius> How to restart plasma shell?
[17:18] <Captain_Haddock> Mrokii: If you go into the edit panel mode, I believe that you can also shorten the overall length of the panel as well.
[17:19] <Mrokii> Captain_Haddock: I looked for that and even saw the cursor changing to a horizontal arrow, but for some reason I couldn't shorten the menu bar.
[17:21] <Mrokii> Captain_Haddock: Wait, it just worked. o.O I just have done something wrong before when I tried that. Thanks for pointing that out, I wouldn't have tried that once more. :)
[17:29] <R13ose> How do I help make Kubuntu better?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Captain_Haddock, My Tv is part of my media system which includes my desktop pc and a complete audio system
[17:34] <BluesKaj> R13ose, use it and report any bugs :-)
[17:35] <R13ose> What if I do report bugs when a app crashes, where can I look for them?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> you should have red crash icon appear in your system tray when an app crashes due to a bug, click on it and you'll see instructions on how to file a bug , or read below
[17:37] <BluesKaj> !bug
[17:38] <BluesKaj> R13ose,^
[17:38] <R13ose> Thanks
[17:38] <BluesKaj> You're welcome
[17:40] <R13ose> Is that wiki page broken?
[17:40] <Captain_Haddock> Mrokii: Cool :)
[17:41] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: So the TV is not on your desk?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> The tv is on a media desk 10ft away from my easy chairand the pc is connected to audio system and the tv ...using wireless KB and mouse at my easy chair
[17:45] <Captain_Haddock> Oooh
[17:45] <BluesKaj> basically it's a HTPC
[17:46] <Captain_Haddock> I'm surprised that you can IRC from 10 feet away :)
[17:46] <Captain_Haddock> Large fonts + large screen?
[17:46] <Alexfrench> 800*600 on a large screen lol
[17:47] <BluesKaj> wireless keyboard and mouse to a wireless usb dongle connected to the pc
[17:47] <Captain_Haddock> R13ose: It does look a little broken :( I believe that the launchpad links are the important ones.
[17:47] <BluesKaj> uhmm,  1920x1080
[17:48] <Captain_Haddock> I do have a similar (separate) setup, but it's purely for running Kodi.
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Alexfrench, ^
[17:48] <BluesKaj> I have kodi installled on this pc
[17:49] <Alexfrench> i was joking lol
[17:49] <Alexfrench> sorry
[17:50] <BluesKaj> you don 't need a separate rpi or pc to run kodi
[17:53] <Alexfrench> if i didn't have children me too i'd like to get large screen plug in my pc
[20:59] <IrcsomeBot1> shanepagne was added by: shanepagne
 Hello
 I have had a lot of trouble with my touchpad starting with Kubuntu 18.10 (it's the same on all the 18.10 flavors. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. As you can imagine, right now it is not working at all
[21:01] <R13ose> shanepagne: what is the computer you are using?
 It's a weird one. Dell Venue 11 Pro
 Tablet that plugs into a keyboard
 so weird. out of nowhere it just began working...
 but it seems my settings reset for it
[21:07] <R13ose> shanepagne: did you change them?
 I did yesterday, but haven't touched them since. Today I booted and it wasn't working. As I was typing here it began to work
[21:08] <R13ose> shanepagne: was this working before the settings reset?
 Unsure. I had checked the settings when it was not working and it said they were reset, so I set them up again. It didn't fix it, but when it suddenly started working I noticed my scrolling was wrong and the acceleration was slow, so going back into settings it said they were reset again
[21:12] <R13ose> And?
 I set them back up and it's still working as of the moment. I'm just not sure what's causing it to not work when that happens
[21:13] <R13ose> Can you look at error logs?
 I rebooted to see what would happen. Touchpad not working again
 I assume this is it?
 10/30/18 5:13 PM  i2c_hid i2c-SMO91D0  0: failed to retrieve report from device. … 10/30/18 5:13 PM  i2c_hid i2c-SMO91D0  0: failed to set a report to device. … 10/30/18 5:13 PM  i2c_hid i2c-SMO91D0  0: failed to retrieve report from device.
[21:41] <valorie> sounds like a internal problem between the tablet and keyboard perhaps?
[21:42] <valorie> can you check the connection or cable between them
[21:42] <valorie> failing cables are notorious for sometimes working and sometimes not
 I'm not sure. I was googling around and some say it's a kernel bug since 4.13
 Misread actually, that said touchscreen which is working here...
 I have an offtopic question - where can I ask ?
[23:24] <valorie> @faszinosium42 - depends on what the subject is?
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