[09:15] <PrimoTurbo> Does anyone know how to switch Totem to opengl like mplayer?
[09:15] <PrimoTurbo> I'm messing with gstreamer-properties
[09:15] <PrimoTurbo> but the problem is that there is no opengl setting
[09:15] <aftertaf> barry: try sudo apt-get install automake1.7    what does it say?
[09:16] <PrimoTurbo> There is ximagesink which is X11 and No Xv any ideas?
[09:16] <barry> Package automake1.7 is not available, but is referred to by another package................
[09:17] <aftertaf> weird.....
[09:17] <aftertaf> barry, what ubuntu version are you on?
[09:17] <aftertaf> !info automake
[09:18] <cafuego> HIGH-FREQ: <heh> Just re-fetch it from the website and install it again.
[09:18] <aftertaf> !info automake1.7
[09:18] <ubotu> automake1.7: (A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.7.9-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 382 kB, Installed size: 1292 kB
[09:19] <HIGH-FREQ> k
[09:19] <barry> Yeah???  I have had this installed before.  My laptop crashed the other day and i'm reinstalling everything. Version 5.1 from the website
[09:19] <aftertaf> you enabled all repositories?
[09:20] <barry> ???Dunno??:0)
[09:20] <aftertaf> :)
[09:20] <aftertaf> !easysources
[09:20] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, aftertaf
[09:20] <PrimoTurbo> Where do u add 	Option 		"OpenGLOverlay" 	"off" in xorg under which part?
[09:20] <aftertaf> !repos
[09:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:21] <barry> What does !easysources and !repos mean ?? is that for me after?
[09:22] <aftertaf> yep see what ubotu said.
[09:23] <aftertaf> back later all
[09:23] <Dodol> hola
[09:23] <HIGH-FREQ> yo
[09:23] <HIGH-FREQ> laterz
[09:23] <HIGH-FREQ> ok d/l now cafuego
[09:23] <Dodol> anybody there?
[09:24] <HIGH-FREQ> ya sup
[09:24] <Hobbsee> barry: anything with a ! in front of it is a command that you can either use /msg ubotu (thing after the !) or do a !(nameoffactoid) in the channel, and ubotu will send you a message about that thing.
[09:25] <Dodol> [plll
[09:25] <Dodol> ,
[09:25] <Dodol> l[l,[
[09:25] <Dodol> ,l[
[09:25] <Dodol> l,[
[09:25] <HIGH-FREQ> Dodol: what u needin?
[09:25] <HIGH-FREQ> cept a new keyboard
[09:25] <Hobbsee> mustard5: oh dear...hehe
[09:25] <mustard5> heheh
[09:25] <benplaut|afk> anyone here have the PlatinUm gtk2 theme? the guy's site is down
[09:27] <Hobbsee> mustard5: i cant believe that they have no active ops there...or no !op command....
[09:27] <mustard5> yeah..its pretty bad :)
[09:27] <mustard5> flood protection got him..hehe
[09:27] <Hobbsee> hehe...for a bit
[09:27] <mustard5> oh..he's back :D
[09:27] <yaaar> word
[09:27] <Madpilot> someone spamming #debian?
[09:28] <mustard5> Madpilot, hugely :)
[09:28] <yaaar> anybody out there have a recommendation for a web-based file manager? like, if i've got a raid nfs/samba server, and i'd like to let people log into it from their browser and up/download files....
[09:28] <barry> !(easysources)
[09:28] <ubotu> Wish I knew.  They had a bot that checked the hostmask of people vs the ban list and kicking them. This worked fine until a op accidentally banned<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(this was a norwegian channel)</offtopic>
[09:37] <Madpilot> Stupid Op Tricks ;)
[09:37] <spikeb> haha blu
[09:39] <barry> HI All after was helping me but seems to have gone now, is there anyone else that can help me wth my vpn install problem?
[09:40] <cafuego> !stupid op trick
[09:41] <ferronica> from where u guys giver order for ubuntu CD
[09:41] <ferronica> can u give the link'
[09:41] <cafuego> shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <stubby> is anyone running dokuwiki on their ubuntu box ?
[09:42] <beford> they aren't sending cds right, now, as cafuego suggested wait for the next version
[09:43] <Cryptid> Can anyone help configure my network(static ip address and stuff) in nUbuntu
[09:43] <stubby> i'm having some trouble accessing the dokuwiki i setup over the net.
[09:43] <barry> When i run sudo ./vpn_install I get make errors like  -> "line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found".  I have build-essentials installed.  I also have gcc version 4:4.0.1-3.  ANy ideas anyone?,
[09:43] <stubby> it works fine via localhost
[09:44] <cafuego> barry: ouch! ouch!
[09:44] <ferronica> he is talking abot mid may
[09:44] <cafuego> barry: what are you installing?
[09:44] <ferronica> to order dapper drake
[09:44] <beford> barry, install gcc-3-4
[09:44] <yaaar> anybody round here have a recommendation on a web-based filemanager?
[09:44] <ferronica> Dapper Drake 6.06
[09:44] <barry> caf: A vpn client to log into work.
[09:44] <barry> beford:  it doesn't seem to be there???
[09:45] <cafuego> barry: Is it a vendor-specific vpn?
[09:45] <beford> barry, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 ?
[09:45] <barry> caf: its cisco (i think) my works work from home disk.
[09:46] <cafuego> barry: Ah ok, so openvpn or pptpd would be useless... you indeed need gcc-3.4 then.
[09:46] <Cryptid> Can some one help me configure my network details on Ubuntu i am using Flux and i am unable to find the Network settings options(Using nUbuntu)
[09:46] <barry> bed:  I get ->"Package gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[09:46] <cafuego> Cryptid: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[09:46] <beford> barry, check your repositories
[09:47] <ferronica> how many other linux r free like ubuntu???
[09:47] <Cryptid> cafuego, ok thanx but u need more help i will give u my network detials will u tell me the exact steps please...
[09:47] <cafuego> ferronica: free to download? hundreds... but I do not know of any others that send out CDs for free.
[09:48] <JraNil> hi list, i have got some prb with dapper beta 2 ,
[09:48] <JraNil> i want to set proxy ( user : pass ) but it dose not work propably
[09:48] <beford> Cryptid, man ifconfig
[09:48] <ferronica> cafuego: i wanna use only which are 100% free like UBUNTU
[09:48] <cafuego> ferronica: hundreds
[09:48] <JraNil> i used http://user:pass@proxy:port in /et/apt/apt.conf
[09:48] <ferronica> cafuego: but good one
[09:49] <ferronica> cafuego: name some
[09:49] <cafuego> ferronica: WHich one you use depends on what you want to do with it and what hardware you have
[09:49] <cafuego> debian/slack/fedora
[09:49] <beford> ferronica, you can still download ubuntu
[09:49] <ferronica> cafuego: i wanna use it for personal
[09:49] <JraNil> but it dose not connect to proxy server, is there any limitation working with proxy ( user and password enabled )?
[09:49] <cafuego> ferronica: As desktop? Then Ubuntu is a really nice only.
[09:49] <Cryptid> cafuego, ok i after i enter these details do i have to use any command to start the network (i mean for the setting to take effect any command is to be used????)
[09:50] <ferronica> cafuego: yes DESKTOP
[09:50] <Bader> I havn't any /dev/cdrom nor /dev/hdc, how could I recreate them ?
[09:50] <Isyth> heyhey, it works, haha, it finally works!
[09:50] <spikeb> Isyth: sweet
[09:50] <cafuego> Cryptid: Yes, after you set up the details, you need to run 'sudo ifup -a'
[09:50] <ferronica> cafuego: r u using firefox 1.5???
[09:50] <cafuego> ferronica: yes
[09:51] <beford> Bader, man mknod
[09:51] <ferronica> cafuego: OR  firefox 1.0.8???
[09:51] <Isyth> just one thing though, it doesn't want to play mp3's in rythmbox or totem, what is a good alternative?
[09:51] <spikeb> !mp3
[09:51] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <JraNil> any suggestion?
[09:51] <Cryptid> cafuego, thanx i will try it out i just downloaded nUbuntu and wsa not able to understand how to configure the network (i am new to flux and more over i am not much of a command line guy)
[09:52] <ferronica> cafuego: will u tell me step wise how to install firefox 1.5, i hav already downloded and saved it in my home folder
[09:52] <cafuego> Cryptid: If you want to use GUI tools, i suggest you use Gnome or KDE
[09:52] <phisrow> Amarok, while a KDE app, is an excellent music player. XMMS is an old favourite, as well.
[09:52] <ferronica> cafuego: ??
[09:52] <Bader> beford: hal doesn't find it anymore...
[09:52] <cafuego> Cryptid: They allow you to manage the entire system using the GUI. Flux is far more basic and would require you to edit text files more often than not.
[09:53] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ferronica about ff1.5
[09:53] <cafuego> ferronica: I use ubuntu dapper, which has firefox 1.5 preinstalled.
[09:53] <ferronica> but breezy badger is latest
[09:53] <AnAnt> how can I configure Ubuntu to set my hardware clock to UTC instead of local timezone ? should I manually edit /etc/adjtime ?
[09:54] <ferronica> Madpilot: tell me the process
[09:54] <Madpilot> ferronica, Dapper will be in final release on June 1st
[09:54] <Cryptid> cafuego, dude i dont see a place where u type in the DNS is the DNS suppose to be in a diffrent file or something??? if so which one??
[09:54] <ferronica> Madpilot: i am not gettin what wiki sayin
[09:54] <Madpilot> ferronica, see the pm that ubotu just sent to you
[09:55] <ferronica> no way
[09:55] <cafuego> Cryptid: dns it in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:55] <Madpilot> need sleep - night all
[09:56] <BioBoy> my desktops grow weary
[09:56] <ferronica> ubotu, tell Madpilot will u help him manually or not
[09:56] <Scorpio> Are you in Linux now?
[09:56] <JraNil> ! ppls ! any comment about proxy setting to update apt? i have used /etc/apt/apt.conf and used http://user:pass@ip:port but it dose not work,
[09:56] <ubotu> JraNil: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:56] <JraNil> is there any limitations for update apt using a auth. proxy?
[09:57] <ferronica> ubotu, tell Madpilot
[09:57] <ferronica> ubotu, you are mad
[09:57] <ubotu> ferronica: I think you lost me on that one
[09:57] <ferronica> w
[09:57] <AnAnt> how can I configure Ubuntu to set my hardware clock to UTC instead of local timezone ? should I manually edit /etc/adjtime ?
[09:57] <aeolus> hi
[09:58] <aeolus> How do I configure a static IP address on eth0?
[09:58] <ferronica> ubotu, tell me about new firefox1.5
[09:58] <JraNil> ubotu: i want to use apt-get update , behind a proxy !
[09:58] <ubotu> JraNil: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:59] <ferronica> cafuego: will u tell me step wise how to install firefox 1.5, i hav already downloded and saved it in my home folder
[09:59] <Hobbsee> !tell ferronica about firefox1.5
[09:59] <Hobbsee> ferronica: see your private message from ubotu
[10:00] <AnAnt> aeolus: in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:03] <cafuego> ferronica: The wiki page ubotu told you about explains precisely what to do.
[10:03] <ferronica> cafuego: not gettin it
[10:03] <ferronica> cafuego: please u tell me
[10:04] <Crisson> who can help me with my totem? it crashes when I open it from the applications menu.
[10:05] <ferronica> cafuego: what is this>>>>>>install it to/opt/firefox
[10:05] <ferronica> cafuego: sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[10:05] <Crisson> I use gdb to start totem, then get this message:Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[10:05] <Crisson> [Switching to Thread -1292768336 (LWP 5611)]
[10:05] <Crisson> 0xb7d72b0c in free_yuv_planes () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1
[10:06] <cafuego> exactly that; paste it in a terminal and hit return
[10:06] <ferronica> what is opt?????????????
[10:07] <Hobbsee> ferronica: it's a directory.
[10:07] <efuzzyone> hello
[10:07] <ferronica> sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[10:07] <ferronica> what C here
[10:07] <cafuego> 'man tar' will explain.
[10:08] <ferronica> u mean i hav to extract in opt only
[10:08] <Crisson> can any one help me?
[10:08] <efuzzyone> when i am trying to open a certain site, firefox shows me a dialog box and says that you have tried to open a file 'index.cgi' and .......
[10:08] <efuzzyone> how do I make firefox process and open webpages with cgi script?
[10:09] <efuzzyone> is this question relevant to this channel?
[10:10] <efuzzyone> i never faced this problem on windows
[10:10] <Crisson> ?
[10:10] <Crisson> ?
[10:11] <Crisson> ?
[10:11] <cafuego> efuzzyone: The site is broken, firefox is fine.
[10:11] <efuzzyone> but i am able to open that site using firefox on windows
[10:11] <ferronica> i hav saved the Firefox in home folder
[10:11] <ferronica> what comman do i need to extract it
[10:12] <cafuego> ferronica: You've pasted it into the channel twice already
[10:12] <efuzzyone> ferronica,  i guess tar -xzf
[10:12] <cafuego> sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[10:13] <ferronica> cafuego: please give me the full command
[10:13] <efuzzyone> cafuego, is there any way I can open that web page
[10:13] <efuzzyone> cafuego, it is https://panel.dreamhost.com/
[10:13] <ohzie> Hey, in compiz, can I use the top and bottom of the cube?
[10:13] <phreak97> how do i test if my joystick is working?
[10:14] <enquest> IS there a way in XGL to limit a window to te edges of your monitor and not display them at once over two monitors
[10:14] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how can I get the firmware for my Agfa Snapscan e20 ? I don't have the installation CD.
[10:14] <phreak97> is there a joystick setup area like in windows?
[10:15] <enquest> Pupeno, go to agfa.com
[10:15] <Pupeno> enquest: and then ?
[10:16] <ferronica> cafuego: i help me help me!
[10:16] <g0dchild> Hi, which app can i use to split tar files?
[10:16] <ferronica> how to extract it from home folder
[10:18] <ferronica> any one help me
[10:19] <malachi> hello
[10:19] <ferronica> how to extract FF 1.5 from home
[10:19] <malachi> is there a voice-to-text application for ubuntu/
[10:19] <cafuego> ferronica: the wiki says how to: run "sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz"
[10:20] <ferronica> cafuego: i pasted it on termianl but got error
[10:21] <ferronica> cannot open: nosuch file or directory
[10:21] <malachi> does gnu/linux have a voice-to-text app
[10:21] <ferronica> cafuego: now what u say tell me????????
[10:22] <asdir> hi everyone. Can someone please tell me how I change the standard file-browser from Nautilus to Rox?
[10:22] <ferronica> cafuego: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5<<<<is this necessary to install
[10:23] <malachi> does gnu/linux have a voice-to-text app
[10:24] <enquest> Pupeno search google
[10:24] <enquest> IS there a way in XGL to limit a window to te edges of your monitor and not display them at once over two monitors
[10:25] <Pupeno> enquest: anything else ? I have done all that already.
[10:25] <ferronica> HELP ME
[10:26] <beford> sn00b sn00p
[10:26] <donvella> ferronica: Its only neccessary if you require that package for an installation
[10:27] <ferronica> donvella: i hav already downloded the FF1.5 now how to install it,
[10:28] <ferronica> donvella: i used the command>>>sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[10:28] <ferronica> donvella: bet getting error
[10:28] <ferronica> but*
[10:28] <nrdb> I am using kubuntu, I have installed gnomemetting but I can't get the sound to work.  When doing the sound test it says "Failed to open the device" check permission etc. what permission am I meant to check? I am in the audio group.
[10:28] <donvella> ferronica:  what are you trying to achieve and on what operating system
[10:29] <foldingstock> lock -nvp
[10:29] <donvella> nrdb: make sure you are logged in as root
[10:29] <ohzie> nrdb, in kubuntu the sound server is ARTs is it not?
[10:29] <ferronica> donvella: i am using UBUNTU 5.10, and i wanna install firefox 1.5
[10:29] <fretn> I installed the latest nvidia drivers, and after every reboot when I try to fire up a GL ap, libGL.so.1 segfaults, if I reinstall the drivers, everything works again, but after the next reboot its broken again ...
[10:29] <donvella> ferronica: are you using breezy or dapper?
[10:29] <ferronica> donvella: breezy
[10:30] <donvella> ferronica: why dont you use Synaptic Package Manager to install firefox?
[10:30] <nrdb> ohzie: I thought it was alsa.
[10:30] <ohzie> I've just started playing around with Compiz, and I can't figure out how to use the top and bottom of my new cube. Anyone wanna fill me in? :D
[10:30] <ferronica> donvella: there firefox 1.5 is not available
[10:30] <ohzie> nrdb: Idunno. Used to be ARTs. Maybe I'm wrong.
[10:31] <ferronica> donvella: ubuntu 5.10 hav FF 1.0.8
[10:31] <donvella> ferronica: i wonder what firefox im using then because i used synaptic to install it
[10:31] <soundray> ohzie: as far as I know, you can only display images on the top and bottom of the cube, not additional workspaces.
[10:31] <donvella> ferronica: wouldnt having a running firefox be better then none at all?
[10:31] <ferronica> donvella: what OS r u using
[10:31] <ohzie> donvella, You can install firefox 1.5 to your home directory. Don't overwrite the normal 1.07/1.08 install though, because breezy NEEDS it.
[10:32] <soundray> nrdb: some audio application is probably blocking access to the sound device.
[10:32] <lucychili> Hi folks this is probably a bit OT. wondering if theres someone who speaks italian and also is a bit familiar with open office. We have been doing training on ubuntu breezy live cds doing the bronze ingot course. A nice chap called Gabriele has offerend to translate our notes. He has done the first bit and is asking if its ok.
[10:32] <ohzie> But you can definitely install to your home directory.
[10:32] <donvella> ferronica: maybe its because of dapper but in my synaptic PM i have firefox 1.5 in there
[10:32] <soundray> ferronica: have you seen ubotu's advice on firefox?
[10:32] <donvella> installed.
[10:32] <soundray> !tell ferronica about ff1.5
[10:32] <lucychili> wondering if someone with OO familiarity and IT language could have a look through.
[10:33] <ohzie> soundray, How would I go about displaying pictures on the top and bottom of the cube?
[10:33] <soundray> ohzie: I'm sure I've read it somewhere -- let me dig it up
[10:33] <asdir> hi everyone. Can someone please tell me how I change the standard file-browser from Nautilus to Rox?
[10:33] <donvella> ferronica: why dont you upgrade to dapper, it will give you the latest firefox?
[10:33] <nrdb> donvella: I tried running it under sudo but I still get the same error.
[10:34] <donvella> nrdb: you need to speak to someone who can help you with your x-server i am having the same trouble
[10:34] <soundray> ohzie: it was on the Gentoo wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Compiz (scroll down to the explanation of cube)
[10:34] <ferronica1> donvella: r u there???
[10:35] <donvella> ferronica: why dont you upgrade to dapper, it will give you the latest firefox?
[10:35] <ohzie> soundray, thanks
[10:35] <nrdb> donvella: the sound system under Linux seems very confused.  all these different systems alsa,jack,oss etc.
[10:35] <donvella> why dont you simplify?
[10:36] <ferronica1> donvella: BETA came out
[10:36] <ferronica1> donvella: not the real one
[10:36] <zcat[1] > Ihaven't had to worry about sound with dapper. All the programs just seem to work. I'm not even sure what it's using :)
[10:36] <donvella> ferronical what do you mean? i use dapper, it works great
[10:36] <ferronica1> donvella: whats the problem if u tell me how to install ff1.5
[10:36] <nrdb> zcat[1] : good luck to you.
[10:37] <donvella> i dont know how i just did it through SPM
[10:37] <topyli> donvella: it's still not released
[10:37] <soundray> ferronica1, is there any reason why you are not following the wiki instructions?
[10:37] <donvella> topyli: im using it right now
[10:37] <donvella> topyli: works great.
[10:37] <topyli> donpachi: so am i :)
[10:37] <zcat[1] > same..
[10:37] <topyli> !firefox1.5
[10:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <donvella> topyli: so does it matter if its not released?
[10:38] <ferronica1> soundray: i hav used the command to extract it but
[10:38] <zcat[1] > it's beta.. but hell, it's about as stable as breezy already.
[10:38] <ferronica1> soundray: error came, no such file found
[10:38] <topyli> donvella: sure it does. it means it's not supported, and that they might break it yet
[10:38] <topyli> donvella: then you and i can help them fix it. it's not for production
[10:39] <donvella> topyli: its whats next, they wouldnt release a beta without having a charlie close by
[10:39] <ferronica1> soundray: tell me what happend
[10:39] <donvella> ferronical: why dont you follow the wiki information about installing firefox?
[10:39] <topyli> donvella: we know the release date
[10:39] <soundray> ferronica1, you were in the wrong directory. cd to the dir where you downloaded the file to
[10:40] <zcat[1] > three weeks..
[10:40] <soundray> ferronica1, probably 'cd /home/ferronic/Desktop/'; then try the extraction again.
[10:40] <ferronica1> donvella: i hav downloded it to home
[10:40] <topyli> ferronica: see the link ubotu gave you a minute ago
[10:40] <ferronica1> ok
[10:41] <beta_m> hello, the "New updates available" popup won't go away even after i installed the new updates, i've even killed update notifier and update mannager... i really don't want to restart the computer... what do i do
[10:41] <donvella> ferronical: the site topyli gave you will work just fine, just follow instructions to a T you should be fine.
[10:41] <zcat[1] > beta_m: try running updates again, perhaps it missed some?
[10:42] <beta_m> tried that
[10:42] <soundray> beta_m: Remove the notifier. You probably do regular updates anyway, don't you?
[10:42] <soundray> beta_m: System-Preferences-Session
[10:43] <ferronica1> soundray: sudo tar -cd / home /ferronica /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[10:43] <ferronica1> soundray: like this
[10:43] <donvella> ferronical: just do what it says on the site
[10:44] <gnomefreak> no spaces between /home/ferronica/opt
[10:44] <beta_m> soundray:  this isn't really helping... i'm having a problem with the popup and you are telling me to remove the notifier... "sudo rm -rf /" will remove it also, but this isn't what i want
[10:44] <soundray> donvella: (s)he is not finding the archive file
[10:44] <donvella> soundray: is he in the correct directory?
[10:44] <soundray> beta_m: just a suggestion. Take it or leave it.
[10:44] <soundray> donvella: trying to find out.
[10:44] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: if you copy and paste the commands for the most part all should work
[10:44] <donvella> why dont you do a locate command
[10:45] <soundray> ferronica1, do you see the downloaded file on your desktop?
[10:45] <beta_m> is there something which can tell me which process to kill to remove the little popup?
[10:45] <soundray> donvella: (s)he'd have to do a updatedb first
[10:45] <soundray> beta_m: look in System-Prefs-Sessions
[10:46] <soundray> beta_m: strange that you should ask about the very suggestion that you dissed a minute ago
[10:47] <zcat[1] > soundray: I think he just wants to kill _this_ popup, not turn off the notifications complettely
[10:47] <soundray> ferronica1, do you see the downloaded file on your desktop?
[10:47] <soundray> zcat[1] : so he should kill the update notifier.
[10:47] <ferronica1> soundray: yes it  is on desktop
[10:47] <zcat[1] > I think he already did
[10:48] <ferronica1> soundray: next step what to do??
[10:48] <zcat[1] > he says he already did, scroll up..
[10:48] <soundray> ferronica1, first, enter 'cd /home/ferronica/Desktop' and hit return
[10:49] <topyli> ferronica1: so in the terminal, do "cd /opt". then do "sudo tar xzvf " <- a space at the end. drag the file from your deskto to the terminal. make sure the terminal is focused, press enter
[10:49] <topyli> it's extracted
[10:49] <ferronica1> error
[10:50] <Isyth> Hey guys, I've got a problem. I enabled the repositories I needed to enable to install gstreamer0.8-mad, but gstreamer0.8-mad still can't install and on top of that my startup freezes just after login (stays on a brown screen, just a mousearrow working, nothing else).
[10:50] <Isyth> (i'm on the livecd now)
[10:50] <soundray> ferronica1, it would help if you said what error you got.
[10:51] <ferronica1>  No such file or directory
[10:51] <soundray> ferronica1, was that on the 'cd'-command?
[10:51] <topyli> ferronica1: which command produces that error?
[10:51] <ferronica1> cd /home/ferronica/Desktop
[10:51] <soundray> ferronica1, what is your username?
[10:52] <topyli> ferronica1: just go to /opt. that's where you want to extract the archive anyway
[10:52] <ferronica1> soundray: name that i use to log in ubuntu
[10:52] <penguin-1> lol
[10:52] <soundray> topyli: do not confuse please.
[10:52] <ferronica1> soundray: ferro i use
[10:52] <soundray> ferronica1: enter 'cd $HOME/desktop'
[10:53] <topyli> soundray: i think he's confused enough. i'm trying to help him install the damn browser :)
[10:53] <gnomefreak> cd Desktop ;)
[10:53] <zcat[1] > error?
[10:53] <zcat[1] > reinstall your shell.. it should never just say 'error' - it must e majorly faulty.
[10:53] <beta_m> well, i think i'm restarting my computer... it's not going away
[10:53] <soundray> beta_m, try 'kill update-notifier'
[10:53] <ferronica1> ok then
[10:54] <soundray> beta_m, try 'killall update-notifier'
[10:54] <soundray> ferronica1: now enter 'sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz'
[10:54] <soundray> ferronica1: this command is straight from the wiki page. If this one works, follow the wiki from that point.
[10:55] <ferronica1> soundray: afternow it works
[10:55] <ferronica1> something runs
[10:55] <soundray> ferronica1: good. Follow the wiki and come back here if you hit any more troubles.
[10:56] <Isyth> Hey guys, I've got a problem. I enabled the repositories I needed to enable to install gstreamer0.8-mad, but gstreamer0.8-mad still can't install and on top of that my startup freezes just after login (stays on a brown screen, just a mousearrow working, nothing else).
[10:56] <soundray> ferronica1: this is a fairly advanced exercise for a newbie.
[10:56] <ferronica1> soundray: it extracted in /opt directory
[10:56] <ferronica1> soundray: ok
[10:56] <soundray> ferronica1: that's good then.
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Isyth: you enabled universe and multiverse (not the universe and multiverse backports) right?
[10:57] <Isyth> yeah, just like the wiki told me to do.
[10:57] <sicmipa> help: what is the file name of the COM1 port? (/dev/???)
[10:57] <soundray> sicmipa: /dev/ttyS0
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Isyth: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[10:57] <sicmipa> soundray: thanks
[10:57] <Isyth> gnomefreak: coming right up.
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:00] <ferronica1> soundray: Change to your home directory, and rename your old profile, leaving it as a backup (using the existing profile may cause problems with Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>):
[11:00] <ferronica1> soundray: what it mean????
[11:00] <Isyth> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13686
[11:01] <Isyth> gnomefreak: should I uncomment those two lines then?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Isyth: thats it? thats not a full list
[11:01] <ferronica1> soundray: what it mean?????????????????|
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Isyth: give me a min ill giv eyou a list to paste inplace of yourse
[11:01] <soundray> ferronica1: if you do the mv command, that'll do it.
[11:02] <soundray> ferronica1: it backs up your firefox user settings.
[11:02] <Isyth> gnomefreak: this is my entire sources.list file.
[11:02] <Isyth> gnomefreak: it's also read-only
[11:02] <soundray> Isyth: I've pasted a change suggestion (sorry gnomefreak)
[11:02] <soundray> Isyth: you have to edit it with admin rights: gksudo gedit
[11:03] <nxg> Anybody here?
[11:03] <ohzie> Can anyone tell me how to make compiz shade windows when I double click on their title bars, instead of maximize them?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Isyth: let me kn0o when its open as soundray told you too
[11:04] <gnomefreak> s/kn0o/know
[11:04] <gnomefreak> soundray: you pasted the new list?
[11:04] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes
[11:05] <nxg> ohzie, i am no expert but i think it depends on the window manager.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ok cool brb more coffee
[11:05] <soundray> nxg: compiz is the window manager ;)
[11:05] <Isyth> gnomefreak, soundray, I don't know how to change it though, because I'm running the live CD now I don't have writing permission.
[11:06] <nxg> oh i am really not an expert.
[11:06] <soundray> Isyth: just checking: you've mounted your hard disk-based Ubuntu root while running from a live CD?
[11:06] <Isyth> I'm not sure entirely but I think so.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> Isyth: do you have ubuntu installed at all?
[11:07] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I certainly have, and it was running perfectly well until half an hour ago when I decided to try the mp3-thing.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ah Isyth can you boot to ubuntu or you have to use live cd
[11:08] <fourat> hello all
[11:08] <Acescripter> hi
[11:08] <ohzie> nxg: gnome-compiz
[11:08] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I can boot ubuntu, but it freezes on a brown screen just after startup, so I have to use the livecd to get beyond there.
[11:08] <ohzie> Or compiz-gnome
[11:08] <ohzie> It's not metacity
[11:08] <ohzie> It's compiz.
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ok Isyth do you get the login screen when booting to ubuntu?
[11:09] <fourat> my ubuntu's X11 wont work with my new laptop's ATI RADEON video card, it raises error on startup and get me to shell console, anybody can help ? please
[11:09] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I do
[11:10] <nxg> ohzie, try compiz's channels or gnome's(gimpnet -gnome). This is official ubuntu support you know.
[11:10] <gnomefreak> Isyth: so between loggin ina nd gnome booting it freezes?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:10] <Isyth> gnomefreak: yes.
[11:10] <soundray> ohzie: try #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl, too
[11:11] <fourat> hello
[11:11] <soundray> !tell fourat about patience
[11:11] <fourat> anyone can help me ?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Isyth: do you get the splash screen showing up while gnome is booting?
[11:11] <sicmipa> question: for /dev/ttyS0, is the "S" really in capital?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fourat about ati
[11:11] <soundray> sicmipa: yeah, believe me
[11:12] <gnomefreak> fourat: read the pm ubotu sent you on ati
[11:12] <Isyth> gnomefreak: what do you mean by splash screen? After logging in I get a brown screen with a mouse arrow and there it freezes.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> Isyth: this is breezy right?
[11:12] <soundray> sicmipa: I don't go to the trouble of entering capital letters just for the fun of it ;)
[11:12] <Isyth> gnomefreak: yep
[11:12] <sicmipa> soundray: ok I'm convinced :)
[11:13] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:15] <sn00p> i'm trying to install, vmware-workstation in ubuntu, i runt he script, its asking where my kernel headers are at,  normally   its [/usr/src/linux/include]  but in my case, usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/include#
[11:15] <sn00p> but I type it in it dont work whats wrong?
[11:15] <soundray> sn00p: did you omit the leading /
[11:15] <soundray> ?
[11:16] <sn00p> ?
[11:16] <sn00p> yea thats just cutoff
[11:16] <sn00p> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:16] <sn00p> its asking that
[11:17] <MasTer_d_dev|L> hey
[11:17] <soundray> sn00p: I take it you've unpacked /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 ?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Isyth: was it a clean install and you never got paste the booting? or did this just recently happen?
[11:17] <sn00p> soundray: no I use apt-get
[11:17] <gnomefreak> !headers
[11:17] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:18] <soundray> sn00p: after you apt-get the linux sources, you have to 'cd /usr/src ; tar jxvf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2'
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ^^^ should be your headerfiles
[11:18] <Isyth> gnomefreak: I installed it only yesterday, but it was working fine this morning. It only went wrong when I tried to enable the universe multiverse repositories and install the gstreamer.
[11:18] <josh0001> Hi guys, just installed a fresh copy of dapper drake flight 6 on my 64bit amd computer, and I've come across some bugs, so I've started to report them, but I am confused at the input form. It states "Path of sendmail" I'm not sure what to put in there
[11:19] <soundray> Isyth: perhaps you've filled up your filesystem?
[11:19] <Isyth> soundray: what does that mean?
[11:20] <soundray> Isyth: lack of hard disk space?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> josh0001: did you install and set up sendmail?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> josh0001: please join #ubuntu+1 with me and i will help you
[11:20] <josh0001> gnomefreak,  Nope, I've just installed it, not setup anything.
[11:20] <josh0001> ok
[11:20] <Isyth> soundray: very unlikely, the disk was empty before installing ubuntu.
[11:21] <sn00p> yay, I got vmware to install
[11:22] <amimusa> hello people, i have some problems with USB devices... they are quite strange. sorry if i dont type all in the same paragraph i will try to explain
[11:23] <amimusa> when i plug a USB Pendrive they are not mounted automatically (as before did) [also sorry for my english]
[11:23] <soundray> sn00p: how did you get it to work?
[11:23] <sn00p> soundray: yep,
[11:24] <ana86> i have some problems with my keyboard configuration, can anybody help me? The problem with special spanish caracters, the cofiguration is all in spanish. but i have some problems with some libraries
[11:24] <soundray> amimusa: look in System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[11:24] <amimusa> when I try to click to the button i get an error message that tells wrong fstype and so...
[11:24] <amimusa> i will
[11:24] <ana86> thaks
[11:24] <ana86> well, the error say me to paste this
[11:24] <ana86> goya@LinuXera:~$ xprop -root | grep XKB
[11:24] <ana86> _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xorg", "pc105", "es", "ES", ""
[11:24] <ana86> _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xorg", "pc105", "es", "ES", ""
[11:24] <ana86> goya@LinuXera:~$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
[11:24] <ana86>  layouts = [es  ES,es   nodeadkeys]
[11:24] <ana86>  model =
[11:24] <ana86>  options = [grp grp:alts_toggle]
[11:24] <ana86>  overrideSettings = true
[11:24] <ana86> goya@LinuXera:~$
[11:25] <ana86> and say tha is a problem with XKB.
[11:25] <soundray> ana86: do not paste errors here. It says so in the topic as well.
[11:25] <ana86> sorry
[11:25] <amimusa> i uncheck all the options
[11:26] <JRGC> Where can I cange the alsa configuration on Ubuntu?
[11:26] <ana86> when i install ubuntu every thing was ok, but i change some cofiguration with the x, and now its dosent work
[11:26] <JRGC> I have a TVcard and it was recognised as a soundcard 0 and my soundcard is soundcard 1 so I can't here anything, except with the tv.
[11:27] <amimusa> here is my fstab file and the error: http://pastebin.com/707009
[11:27] <soundray> JRGC: set the soundcard in System-Preferences-Sound
[11:27] <amimusa> please, any help
[11:28] <JRGC> soundray:  ?????
[11:28] <JRGC> soundray:  I can configure the KDE sound, but not alsa!
[11:29] <ana86> i am new i linux, i dont really now how to help you, sorry
[11:29] <HymnToLife> amimusa> I'm pretty sure USB devices don't need to be in fstab
[11:29] <amimusa> so maybe is this my error ?
[11:29] <JRGC> I want to modify the alsa configuration, not the KDE configuration. KDE just recognizes one soundcard
[11:29] <amimusa> i will try to delete form the fstab then
[11:29] <soundray> JRGC: oh you're on KDE. Ask in #kubuntue
[11:29] <soundray> JRGC: oh you're on KDE. Ask in #kubuntu
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Isyth: i wish i could help more im not sure what you did :(
[11:30] <fourat> where can i download deb packages ?
[11:30] <Bieleke> does somebody in here uses grdesktop with windows terminal server ?
[11:30] <HymnToLife> !tell fourat about synaptic
[11:30] <ana86> does any body now how can i reinstall only the x configuration?
[11:31] <soundray> ana86: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:31] <Isyth> gnomefreak: perhaps you can make me a sources.list file with which I can replace my own? Since I can't edit my own this might be a good way.
[11:31] <aftertaf> !easysource
[11:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Isyth: ok hold on ill get one
[11:31] <gnomefreak> aftertaf: i would rather he not use unoffical ones atm due to borked something
[11:31] <HymnToLife> Isyth> here's mine : http://fkraiem.no-ip.org/stuff/sources.list
[11:31] <soundray> Isyth: I've done that for you already (gnomefreak)
[11:31] <amimusa> i've put off the usb device line form fstab, but the problem persist
[11:32] <aftertaf> ok.
[11:32] <HymnToLife> amimusa> try a reboot
[11:32] <amimusa> reboot ???
[11:32] <soundray> amimusa: re-enable automounting in System-Prefs-Removable...
[11:32] <amimusa> we are using GNU/Linux not M$ Windows ...
[11:32] <Isyth> soundray: I know, but my sources.list is read-only which I can't change because I'm in live CD, so I need the actual file rather than a text equivalent.
[11:32] <ana86> mmm i have do it soudtray, but it isnt repair my problem with the caracters
[11:32] <HymnToLife> yeah, maybe the stuff you wrote in fstab is still interfering in some way
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Isyth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 here try this one
[11:32] <ana86> but thanks
[11:33] <HymnToLife> I know pretty much what you are using, thanks
[11:33] <Cultisistan> Can someone help me with this: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-broadband-adsl-pppoe-client-rp-pppoe
[11:33] <Isyth> soundray: or I just don't really understand what's going on, that's a very plausible option.
[11:33] <soundray> ana86, add the Keyboard Indicator applet to the panel and configure it to switch to Spanish.
[11:33] <Cultisistan> I have followed the instructions, what to do to connect to my ISP
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Isyth: the link i gave you has a standard/stable list of repos on it
[11:34] <ana86> i have do it, but i have an error
[11:34] <soundray> Isyth: you have to make sure you mount your hd-based ubuntu root to some mount point, e.g. /mnt
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !broadband
[11:34] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[11:34] <ana86> the same as i paste
[11:34] <amimusa> same, but now ubuntu is thinking all time 'cos it doesn't know what to do (i suppose)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[11:34] <ubotu> it has been said that broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[11:34] <soundray> Isyth: you can then run 'gksudo gedit /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:35] <soundray> Isyth: you should also examine the file /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log (end of the file) for error messages relating to the freeze.
[11:35] <soundray> Isyth: also look at the file .xsession-errors in your home directory.
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.125000]  ReiserFS: sdb: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not f ind reiserfs on sdb
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.143000]  XFS: bad magic number
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.143000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.163000]  XFS: bad magic number
[11:35] <amimusa> [4300513.163000]  XFS: SB validate failed
[11:35] <amimusa> the FS is vfat
[11:36] <amimusa> i will be back in few minutes and i will ask agian
[11:36] <gnomefreak> amimusa: dont paste in here use pastebin
[11:36] <soundray> amimusa: do not paste errors here
[11:36] <amimusa> ok,sorry
[11:36] <amimusa> never again
[11:36] <amimusa> see you later
[11:36] <amimusa> thanks for the support
[11:36] <amimusa> hope to fix it later
[11:36] <amimusa> bye now
[11:36] <ana86> byes
[11:36] <Cultisistan> can someone help me please? :)
[11:37] <ana86> try to say your problem
[11:37] <Isyth> well I'm just going to try some of these things now. Soundray, gnomefreak, thanks bunches. If it doesn't work, you'll see me again.
[11:37] <Isyth> ciao!
[11:37] <JRGC> How can i configure alsa from the console in Ubuntu?
[11:37] <coolfrog> Hey, can anyone tell me how to increase the size of the root partition? I dual-boot with windows and the linux partition is 4.95 gb in size. my hdd has 40 gb capacity.
[11:37] <Cultisistan> I have installed RP-PPPoE because my i need PPPoE to connect to my ISP
[11:38] <ana86> coolfrog i think you can do with ubuntu cd instalation
[11:38] <soundray> coolfrog: you can resize partitions with gparted. You should boot from a live CD to do that.
[11:38] <HIGH-FREQ> coolfrog: i think there's a proggie called ...oooh wait i'm thinkin of ntfs-resize...nm
[11:38] <Cultisistan> now I wonder what to do to connect, I tried to run the program from Applications -> Internet
[11:38] <ana86> you can modify with out remove the things
[11:38] <HIGH-FREQ> soundray: yes but will he lose his data?
[11:38] <Cultisistan> but nothing happened
[11:38] <Cultisistan> or maybe I'm not bright enough to recognize when something happened :)
[11:39] <soundray> HIGH-FREQ, coolfrog, there is a risk of losing data when you resize partitions, so back up your valuable data first.
[11:39] <ana86> xD
[11:39] <HIGH-FREQ> yes..backup ;)  hehe....
[11:39] <coolfrog> Is ubuntu live CD a necessity? I only have the installation CD.
[11:39] <Cultisistan> I have a username and a password from my ISP, what should I do with it to connect?
[11:39] <nikusan> Hi all, I've got a 1GB iPod shuffle here. Banshee tells me its 1GB but nautilus and rhythmbox say its 200MB... any ideas?
[11:40] <HIGH-FREQ> Cultisistan: are u not on a router?
[11:40] <ana86> well, one question, if i save my user folder, them i install the ubuntu and paste my folder, if i excute a program that is in my folder, will it work?
[11:40] <Cultisistan> nope, I'm connecting directly to my ADSL modem
[11:40] <soundray> coolfrog: Ubuntu live CD is best, but if you want a smaller download, try DSL Linux
[11:40] <HymnToLife> or the GParted Live CD
[11:41] <coolfrog> I have dsl. Is there any partitioning tools in it?
[11:41] <soundray> coolfrog: I think it comes with parted (commandline tool, but fairly friendly)
[11:41] <eXistenZ> soundray, Is kde faster than gnome or vice versa?
[11:41] <soundray> coolfrog: maybe it's got qtparted as well (frontend)
[11:42] <weekang> there's the gparted livecd
[11:42] <soundray> eXistenZ: how the ... should I know?
[11:42] <weekang> it's got the latest ntfsprogs
[11:42] <weekang> it can even resize windoze ntfs safely
[11:42] <weekang> just google 4 it
[11:42] <soundray> HymnToLife: that's clever, thanks
[11:42] <weekang> oh i'm blind
[11:42] <weekang> yeah listen 2 the man
[11:42] <soundray> coolfrog: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:43] <coolfrog> ok i will try that.Thanks.
[11:43] <HymnToLife> reminds me I should download it toocrappy dialup...
[11:43] <soundray> eXistenZ: if you want fast, go with xubuntu, or use cli tools
[11:43] <soundray> !tell eXistenZ about cli
[11:44] <weekang> !tell weekang about cli
[11:44] <weekang> lol the bot just tells me off
[11:44] <soundray> weekang: use /msg ubotu cli
[11:45] <gnomefreak> soundray: the aliases for bash are in ~/.bashrc right?
[11:45] <HymnToLife> !tell HymnToLife about cli
[11:45] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes, they usually are.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[11:48] <visik7> hi
[11:48] <luke> do u think its a security risk if I create a SETUID shell that just runs "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" exectuable by everyone?
[11:49] <visik7> how can I use -j ROUTE in iptables ? since there is no ipt_ROUTE.so in /lib/iptables nor a ipt_ROUTE module ?
[11:49] <soundray> luke: consider auto-apt instead
[11:50] <luke> "No manual entry for auto-apt"
[11:50] <luke> neither does it exist?
[11:51] <pitti> luke: apt-get update is already in cron.daily
[11:51] <soundray> !info auto-apt
[11:51] <ubotu> auto-apt: (package search by file and on-demand package installation tool), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.3.20 (breezy), Packaged size: 44 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[11:51] <luke> pitti, i have disabled cron though
[11:51] <pitti> luke: you should rather use sudo for this stuff; first, it's easier to set up, and second, it's harder to get wrong :)
[11:53] <luke> how do I print environmental variables?
[11:53] <luke> like PATH or something
[11:53] <zcat[1] > luke: echo $PATH
[11:53] <soundray> luke, or run env
[11:53] <JRGC> Please tell me where can I define soundcard 0 as soundcard 1 and viceversa.
[11:53] <luke> ty
[11:54] <JRGC> I found the /proc/asound/cards has the number, but I can't modify it.
[11:54] <JRGC> There must be a way on ubuntu to configure manually the sound cards, isn't it?
[11:54] <soundray> JRGC: you are using the wrong approach. Instead, you should configure your applications to use card 1 by default.
[11:55] <soundray> JRGC: leave the low-level decisions to Ubuntu (like how to number cards).
[11:56] <JRGC> soundray:  And how can I configure supertux and xine to use soundcard 1?
[11:56] <soundray> JRGC: look in the menus, read the docs, ask the channel
[11:57] <luke> "chmod 4711 update.sh" doesnt seem to make it Set UID according to Gnome - am I doing something wrong?
[11:58] <soundray> luke: you cannot setuid shell scripts.
[11:58] <JRGC> soundray:  The problem is that soundcard-0 is not even a soundcard, is a TV card
[11:58] <luke> really?
[11:59] <JRGC> soundray:  ALSA should not recognize the TVcard as soundcard
[11:59] <soundray> JRGC: it is a soundcard in the sense that it has a sound chipset in it.
[11:59] <luke> soundray, how can I get it to work then?
[11:59] <soundray> JRGC: yes it should, otherwise you wouldn't be hearing your TV sound.
[11:59] <m_0_r_0_n> Do you know a program that is able to log all processes if the cpu load is greater thant e.g. 80%?
[11:59] <soundray> luke: first, tell me why you don't want to listen to my advice (auto-apt)
[12:00] <luke> soundray, im still not exactly sure what auto-apt does, and i want to learn how to use the cli a little better
[12:00] <JRGC> soundray:  Wrong, Alsa never recognised my TVcard as soundcard, i have the output of the TVcard connected to the input of my soundcard.
[12:00] <soundray> luke: enter apt-cache show auto-apt
[12:00] <sjoerd> JRGC: how that exaclty works differs
[12:01] <soundray> JRGC: look, do you want help, or do you want to be a smart alec?
[12:02] <sjoerd> JRGC: some have an external connection (like yours), some have both, some have no external link possibility (although they are rare)
[12:02] <JRGC> soundray:  The problem is that I had other linux distros and they all worked fine.
[12:02] <luke> soundray, ah thanks soundray. but if I did want to do it using a shell script, would it be possible to use SETUIDs for future reference?
[12:02] <soundray> JRGC: alsa sees the sound chip on your TV card as its card 0
[12:02] <JRGC> And I'm very happy with Ubuntu, except for this little issue
[12:02] <JRGC> soundray:  Yes
[12:02] <zcat[1] > configure esd to use /dev/dsp1, almost everything else will use esd
[12:03] <JRGC> zcat[1] :  How? Where?
[12:03] <soundray> JRGC: the fact that you are channeling the analog output of card 0 to card 1 doesn't matter at the low level.
[12:03] <soundray> zcat[1] : JRGC is on KDE
[12:03] <JRGC> soundray:  That's not the problem, the problem is that all my other applications try to use the tvcard as sound card and it doesn't work
[12:04] <sjoerd> JRGC: either you blacklist the soundcard audio module, or you ensure that your normal soundcard comes first or you switch your alsa config to use card 1 as the default card
[12:04] <soundray> JRGC: most of your sensible applications will use artsd or esd, so it's just a matter of configuring those.
[12:04] <JRGC> And I don't want to configure each and every application to use soundcard 1, because some don't even let you do this
[12:06] <soundray> JRGC: if you still want to force it, you could swap the TV and sound cards in their slots.
[12:06] <tombs> hi all
[12:06] <jimcooncat> I need help with HAL, fails to load. Where do I find a troubleshooting guide? I see nothing I can understand in syslog
[12:06] <ana86> well, i gona go
[12:06] <ana86> byes
[12:07] <zcat[1] > JRGC: force the correct soundcard module to load first by putting it in /etc/modules .. worked for me.
[12:15] <chri[s] > how can i tell what's wrong with a device
[12:15] <chri[s] > or why it already says it mounted when it is not
[12:15] <m6s> I try to use evolution
[12:16] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : That depends mostly on the device. type mount w/o any parameters to see a list of mounted devices.
[12:16] <chri[s] > its not
[12:17] <chri[s] > its a harddrive but i have a as an LVM partition and i cant seem to get it to mount
[12:17] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : which error do you get when you attempt to mount it_
[12:17] <BlueEagle> ?
[12:17] <chri[s] > hris@ubuntu-polarbear:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/ubuntu-old/
[12:17] <chri[s] > Password:
[12:17] <chri[s] > mount: /dev/hdb5 already mounted or /mnt/ubuntu-old/ busy
[12:17] <m6s> I have evolution, and I am trying to configure POP3 access to my mails, I choose POP, (I don't see POP3 choice) and the pass doesn't go to the handler....
[12:17] <chri[s] > but
[12:17] <m6s> any idea please?
[12:18] <chri[s] > /dev/hdd1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:18] <chri[s] > proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:18] <chri[s] > tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[12:18] <chri[s] > tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[12:18] <chri[s] > tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[12:18] <chri[s] > its not listed on mount
[12:18] <chri[s] > and
[12:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell chri[s]  about pastebin
[12:18] <soundray> chri[s] : read the topic. No pasting
[12:18] <chri[s] > k k
[12:18] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : which directory are you currently in_
[12:18] <BlueEagle> ??
[12:18] <chri[s] > /home/chris
[12:19] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : I see. Try this: sudo fdisk -l|grep hdb5
[12:20] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : hmm.. is it a raid partition you say?
[12:20] <chri[s] > /dev/hdb5              32       36483   292800658+  8e  Linux LVM
[12:20] <chri[s] > no
[12:20] <BlueEagle> oh, lvm
[12:20] <BlueEagle> !lvm
[12:20] <ubotu> hmm... lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[12:21] <soundray> chri[s] : I don't know about lvm, but if you have an unmountable device like that, you sometimes have to reboot to get it unstuck.
[12:23] <Drac|Win> libglib2.0-0 is installed on my system, but this configure script complains that there is no "glib-2.0" package on my system. It's a very new configure script, and should be up to date. What gives?
[12:24] <soundray> Drac|Win: install libglib2.0-dev
[12:24] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : Well I would expect an error saying that you need to specify the partition type, however if the PV is part of a VG and that VG is somehow active (should be listed with sudo fdisk -l) then that might explain the fact that the partition is busy
[12:25] <Drac|Win> soundray: Yeah. Figured that out, but thanks. :)
[12:26] <soundray> Drac|Win: you still get that error?
[12:26] <siimo> can nautilus burn DVD isos?
[12:26] <chri[s] > BlueEagle, hrm so how do i deactivative it with out deactivating my current partition
[12:26] <warlock-> If my root pw got hacked, how can i access the server? (Im right next to it)
[12:27] <siimo> warlock-, by using a live CD and chroot
[12:27] <warlock-> siimo
[12:27] <BlueEagle> warlock-: boot it with a live cd
[12:27] <warlock-> I accessed it with another account
[12:27] <warlock-> is therea way to change root pw?
[12:27] <BlueEagle> warlock-: no
[12:27] <warlock-> if i boot with live cd, then what?
[12:27] <sambagirl> http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/windows_no.htm
[12:27] <BlueEagle> warlock-: You shouldn't have set a root pw in the first place imo.
[12:27] <warlock-> I did, I only used root tbh
[12:28] <hurax> if you got hacked: backup user data and reinstall
[12:28] <BlueEagle> warlock-: Well, there you go...
[12:28] <hurax> you can't trust anything on it anymore
[12:28] <togster> greetings #ubuntu
[12:28] <warlock-> well...
[12:28] <donvella> hurax: how do you get hacked? and why?
[12:28] <BlueEagle> warlock-: The most secure thing to do is to wipe all program files and make a clean install retaining only data files.
[12:29] <BlueEagle> warlock-: (that would be the /home partition)
[12:29] <hurax> i was once, by an exploit in the ssh daemon
[12:29] <warlock-> well
[12:29] <warlock-> how do i get access with chroot ?
[12:29] <donvella> why would someone want to hack you though, question at hand.
[12:29] <warlock-> chroot *
[12:29] <BlueEagle> warlock-: man chroot
[12:29] <hurax> my boss told me just to patch it and not to reinstall
[12:30] <warlock-> um wait?
[12:30] <donvella> hurax: network security?
[12:30] <soundray> donvella: criminals pay money for hacked machines, for sending phishing mails and such.
[12:30] <hurax> turned out that there was some trojan left and the hacker went back in again
[12:30] <BlueEagle> chri[s] : By reading the documentation I assume. :)
[12:30] <donvella> soundray: explain yourself.
[12:30] <warlock-> BlueEagle, I dont have access to any user account on the other server...how to access chroot then?
[12:30] <soundray> donvella: quote: "why would someone want to hack you"
[12:30] <BlueEagle> warlock-: chroot is on the livecd. When you chroot in you've automagically have got root access.
[12:31] <warlock-> Oh, thanks mate
[12:31] <soundray> donvella: because access to a cracked machine can be sold on the black market.
[12:31] <hurax> donvella: what was your question?
[12:31] <warlock-> Is the LIVE cd downloadable ?
[12:31] <BlueEagle> warlock-: yes
[12:31] <donvella> soundray: can you go into detail why someone would pay for a hacked machine; ei. purposes.
[12:31] <warlock-> I will have to reboot to run the livecd, correclty?
[12:31] <BlueEagle> warlock-: you can use any live cd you prefer. I for one prefer the gentoo minimal for recovery work.
[12:31] <BlueEagle> warlock-: but knoppix also works well.
[12:32] <soundray> donvella: no. All the detail was in my first response.
[12:32] <hurax> yes, you boot from the cd
[12:32] <warlock-> k
[12:32] <F0LL0W3R> Anyone here knows how to install firefox Active X plugins ?
[12:32] <donvella> soundray: im just interested in the knowledge your provided. im wondering why someone would pay for a cracked machine.
[12:32] <soundray> donvella: if you don't believe this, you're living in a hole.
[12:32] <BlueEagle> !activex
[12:32] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[12:32] <hurax> donvella: they pay for sending spam
[12:32] <donvella> hurax: please explain
[12:32] <hurax> and spam is a lucrative business
[12:33] <donvella> hurax: so in example: someone would log into a stolen computer, use their email program to send spam to create money for whom?
[12:33] <warlock-> THE BUSINESS
[12:33] <hurax> those who sell the stuff
[12:33] <BlueEagle> donvella: When you've got access to a cracked server you can install a mail relay or a mail spammer for that matter and send out spam. Some companies actually pay people to send out marketing emails (unsolicited at that too)
[12:33] <F0LL0W3R> !Actice X
[12:33] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:34] <soundray> !offtopic
[12:34] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:34] <donvella> BlueEagle: so in other words, companies pay people to do things illegally? such as um Fat Buster 2006?
[12:34] <donvella> They would actually pay someone to load mailboxes with spam?
[12:34] <BlueEagle> donvella: correct.
[12:34] <donvella> BlueEagle: interesting.
[12:35] <togster> If they didn't, there wouldn't be such a spam problem
[12:35] <donvella> BlueEagle: now this business, how hard is this to get into? who would you need to speak to to arrange something along these lines?
[12:35] <soundray> !offtopic
[12:35] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:36] <josh0001> can someone help me with this batch of updates
[12:36] <JRGC> soundray:  I just swaped the cards and now it's working perfectly, thanks a lot!!
[12:36] <BlueEagle> donvella: ...as a nice little anectdote to that. I've seen spam mails promoting services to send spam mails. You don't. It's annoying and you don't want to make money that way. Well unless you're from america. They do anything for money. :p
[12:36] <soundray> JRGC: see, trust your elders
[12:37] <soundray> JRGC: (scnr)
[12:37] <donvella> BlueEagle: well cashflow is better then income, so depends on how you look at it.
[12:38] <donvella> BlueEagle: however the idea of making money off something so simple as to using a computer seems like such a wise idea.
[12:38] <Svennig> When I hold shift and press backspace X reboots - I need to be able to stop this for my sanity's sake, can anyone help?
[12:38] <pitti> Svennig: you mean control+Alt+Backspace?
[12:38] <soundray> Svennig: I had that problem. Had to switch from Xgl back to Xorg.
[12:38] <soundray> Svennig: are you on Xgl?
[12:38] <Svennig> soundray hmmm - I'm using XGL all right. Is there no way to change the keybindings?
[12:39] <soundray> Svennig: I've spent the better part of yesterday afternoon on it. DontZap option doesn't help, Gnome keybindings won't help.
[12:39] <BlueEagle> svennig: look for a configuration file in /etc/X*
[12:39] <Svennig> soundray, BlueEagle thanks for the advice! :D
[12:39] <soundray> Svennig: very annoying "feature"
[12:40] <hurax> donvella: becoming a criminal to make money doesn't seem a wise idea to me
[12:40] <BlueEagle> svennig: ..or as Linus would have put it: mis-feature
[12:40] <soundray> Svennig: maybe someone in #ubuntu-xgl knows more.
[12:40] <Svennig> I might give it a try in there, thanks!
[12:41] <ubuntu_> hiiiiiiiiiii
[12:42] <donvella> hurax: kudos to that :P Depends on what side of the line your standing on
[12:42] <ubuntu_> hiiiiiii fuker
[12:43] <donvella> ubuntu_ sup
[12:43] <BlueEagle> donvella: We're on the recieving line, and guess what. We don't like spam or spammers.
[12:43] <ubuntu_> jkhkhkhkj
[12:43] <donvella> BlueEagle: lol fair nuf, you made your point.
[12:43] <soundray> ubuntu_, your test worked.
[12:44] <ubuntu_> yes
[12:45] <chri[s] > [4631065.392000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[12:45] <chri[s] > that's the error dmesg spits out at me when i try to mount it
[12:46] <ubuntu_> pls any pepole help me lerning to linux
[12:46] <iNiku> chri[s] : that happens when you press shift-<cursor key>
[12:46] <iNiku> chri[s] : at least I had that with breezy. it has nothing to do with mounting anything
[12:48] <ubuntu_> mika ..... help me
[12:48] <chri[s] > well that's the error i get when i type 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/stuff
[12:49] <chri[s] > with | dmesg
[12:49] <Mika_i> ?
[12:49] <ubuntu_> hey help me
[12:49] <soundray> chri[s] : this error has nothing to do with mounting
[12:49] <soundray> !helpme
[12:49] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:49] <iNiku> chri[s] : it's some keypress that's doing it, it's just some keyboard driver weirdness
[12:49] <iNiku> definitely nothing to do with mounting
[12:50] <ubuntu_> i want education for ubuntu
[12:50] <soundray> ubuntu_: install it, play with it, work with it.
[12:50] <sahan> hellow
[12:50] <soundray> ubuntu_: come back here if you have specific problems/questions.
[12:52] <sahan> i cant play avi,mpg video files in ubuntu..can any body help me?
[12:53] <soundray> !tell sahan about restricted
[12:53] <soundray> sahan: read the message that ubotu sent you
[12:53] <BSCH> who use the cjk-latex?
[12:53] <dorel_> join #mythtv-users
[12:53] <dorel_> eh, my bad
[12:53] <sahan> ok..soundray.. ill
[12:53] <sahan> thanks
[12:54] <sahan> but can any one tell me why realplayer is not working?
[12:55] <soundray> sahan: read the page that ubotu pointed you to, and follow the advice there. Also, consider easyubuntu
[12:55] <soundray> !tell sahan about easyubuntu
[12:56] <pvd2006> Is it possible to write to NTFS partitions in Ubuntu yet?
[12:56] <sahan> ok..fine thanx
[12:56] <soundray> pvd2006: only if you recompile the ntfs kernel module (not recommended)
[12:57] <pvd2006> so when will it be possible without having to do that
[12:57] <soundray> pvd2006: NTFS is a crufty, kludgy, closed-source mess. Chances are it'll never be decently supported.
[12:57] <HymnToLife> who cares about NTFS anyway ?
[12:57] <waldo> anyone here running dapper-drake beta?
[12:57] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[12:57] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:57] <waldo> I'm getting a weird error w/gnome-nettools
[12:58] <soundray> HymnToLife: Windows users (who needs them) ;)
[12:58] <waldo> I mean gnome-nettool.  Something about glibc and it aborts...
[12:58] <pvd2006> I still run windows, Im not running fat or fat32 with windows for sure.
[12:58] <pvd2006> windows is still useful for some things
[12:58] <pvd2006> linux is a lot more useful though
[12:58] <HymnToLife> soundray> FAT is OK with windows and Linux
[12:58] <HymnToLife> why bother with NTFS ?
[12:58] <soundray> pvd2006: best to have a small fat32 data partition for exchanging data.
[12:59] <soundray> pvd2006: or use a USB stick.
[12:59] <HymnToLife> soundray> all ext3 for me to exchange data since there are ext3 drvires for windows that wors pretty well
[01:00] <pvd2006> HymnTolife, what is the driver called
[01:00] <soundray> HymnToLife: now you've admitted to using Windows!
[01:00] <soundray> :)
[01:00] <HymnToLife> soundray> I do, I can't find any decent DVD encoding tool for Linux
[01:00] <MistaED_0> yeah the ext2 driver rocks compared to using fat32
[01:00] <HymnToLife> pvd2006> google for Ext2Fsd
[01:01] <MistaED_0> www.fs-driver.org is better than ext2fsd i think
[01:01] <pvd2006> I have EXT2fsd I thought it was just for being able to use linux paritions in windows though
[01:01] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: acidrip?
[01:01] <HymnToLife> that's what I said..
[01:01] <soundray> pvd2006: it is. This is all based on the suggestion of having an extra partition for shared data between the OS's
[01:01] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: have you tried acidrip?
[01:01] <frying_fish> its a front end to mencoder
[01:02] <frying_fish> and produces quite nice results I found
[01:02] <chombee> Hello - I installed Breezy for a technophobe friend, and I'm wondering what the best way to setup DVD support is. I know totem-xine and xine-ui will play DVDs. totem-xine is a better ui, but might conflict with totem-gstreamer when she downloads updates. Any thoughts?
[01:02] <MistaED_0> does ext2fsd allow mounting of drives to letters so it's seamless to windows/programs?
[01:02] <frying_fish> or do you mean dvd encoding as in authoring dvd's
[01:02] <HymnToLife> yes, and It's nor anywhere as good as Windows tools like VirtualDub
[01:02] <frying_fish> chombee: vlc
[01:02] <frying_fish> use vlc,
[01:02] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: if you want virtual dub then get avidemux
[01:02] <frying_fish> avidemux == virtualdub
[01:02] <chombee> frying_fish - why? Is it significantly better than xine or totem-xine?
[01:02] <frying_fish> chombee: yes.
[01:03] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> nope, avidemux is good but it still can't do as much stuff as vdub does
[01:03] <chombee> frying_fish - never heard this, can you expand?
[01:03] <frying_fish> a) looks better, b) doesn't require lots of codecs to play many media types.
[01:03] <pvd2006> I use intervideo for dvd, it has the best qaulity for encoding to other formats a lot better than like dvd shrink and such.
[01:03] <soundray> !info vlc
[01:03] <HymnToLife>  aand there is no AviSynth for linux either
[01:03] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[01:03] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: avidemux is virtual dub, just with a different front end on it.
[01:03] <frying_fish> chombee: http://www.videolan.org/vlc
[01:03] <chombee> I know what VLC is, but never thought to use it instead of xine-ui
[01:03] <frying_fish> although the version in breezy itself is old
[01:04] <frying_fish> so it may be worth looking at trying to get the latest one from there site.
[01:04] <chombee> frying_fish - does it play more reliably than xine? I've noticed xine is a little dodgy sometimes, but mostly good
[01:04] <frying_fish> chombee: it is much better, they write all their own codecs, and you don't ahve to mess with libraries, and it looks a lot better.
[01:04] <frying_fish> I don't use anything but vlc for any form of video
[01:04] <chombee> frying_fish - I don't want to add any compiled-from-source stuff to her system, she's gonna have to manage it herself, after all
[01:04] <frying_fish> although admittedly it doesn't have wmv9 support yet.
[01:04] <pvd2006> VLC is pretty good, I still like mplayer better though.
[01:04] <HymnToLife> though the Breezy build is crappy indeed
[01:04] <frying_fish> chombee: its not compiled from source
[01:05] <frying_fish> there are ubuntu packs now.
[01:05] <pvd2006> i use the command line version of mplayer though not the gui
[01:05] <soundray> chombee: look at ubotu's line ^^
[01:05] <chombee> frying_fish - Hmm... well, I will look into this. I'm interested so I'm gonna try and get wider comments from the mailing list. But I'll definitely check it out
[01:05] <frying_fish> chombee: http://nightlies.videolan.org/
[01:06] <frying_fish> although, the dapper package is more upto date
[01:06] <chombee> soundray - hwy, I know what vlc is, I'm just interested in how it actually performs compared to xine
[01:06] <frying_fish> since dapper is officially coming out soon, so they have kind of stopped making breezy stuff.
[01:06] <HymnToLife> that's god cause the Breezy one sucks big time
[01:06] <HymnToLife> good*
[01:06] <frying_fish> yeah, its about 3 versions old I saw.
[01:06] <frying_fish> there is 0.8.5svn version for breezy on their site
[01:06] <frying_fish> but I use dapper
[01:06] <frying_fish> and that has 0.8.5final now.
[01:07] <HymnToLife> the thing that disturbs me most on it is that it doesn't have Matroska support
[01:07] <soundray> chombee: now I see what you mean. I responded because you said you didn't want to do installs from source.
[01:07] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: you mean .h264?
[01:07] <frying_fish> if so, thats in the latest version
[01:07] <pvd2006> mplayer has MKV support
[01:07] <HymnToLife> how do you want people to use free formats and get rid of the crappy AVI if they can't play them...
[01:07] <frying_fish> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
[01:07] <orbin> could someone walk me through how to setup a cable 'net connection?  i want to connect this laptop.  we have one cable modem with two ports: usb and ethernet.  the family pc is hooked up via usb, which leaves ethernet for this laptop.  i'm new to broadband, so have no idea what i'm doing basically.
[01:08] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> yeah but for some reson the Breezy build doesn't support MKVs
[01:08] <chombee> well, thanks for the advice all, I'll check it out
[01:08] <frying_fish> HymnToLife: that would be because its about 3 versions out of date
[01:08] <frying_fish> go to the nightlies page
[01:08] <frying_fish> and add the breezy repository
[01:08] <frying_fish> and get the latest version from there
[01:08] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> I compile mine from ource so no problem :)
[01:08] <frying_fish> oh ok.
[01:08] <HymnToLife> but I'm pretty sure VLC alread had it back then
[01:08] <frying_fish> possibly.
[01:08] <pvd2006> Yeah thats the only downside of ubuntu I think, the packages arent updated to the newest ones.
[01:09] <HymnToLife> just some misconfiguration of the build no one bothered to fix, shame...
[01:09] <pvd2006> not all of them anyways
[01:09] <frying_fish> pvd2006: the ones in dapper are
[01:09] <josh0001> I'm having difficulties. I've recently setup ubuntu (newest one) But i am unable to login as root. Am i doing something wrong?.. I have setup the password correctly, should i type a different username in the username section? thanks
[01:09] <pvd2006> but dapper isnt stable yet is it
[01:09] <pvd2006> ?
[01:09] <frying_fish> not technically no
[01:09] <Tidus> !tell josh0001 about root
[01:09] <frying_fish> but with less than 1 month to release date it is fairly close
[01:09] <soundray> pvd2006: it's exceedingly stable, considering it's still beta
[01:09] <frying_fish> and has been stable on my 2 systems for the past 2 months
[01:09] <josh0001> !tell
[01:09] <josh0001> ok
[01:10] <HymnToLife> I'v gotta try Dapper as soon as I get my hands on a new laptop
[01:10] <HymnToLife> atm I'm stick with Windows
[01:10] <kingspawn> orbin: does your router give out dhcp ips?
[01:10] <frying_fish> infact, on my laptop its the only OS, and on desktop, I only booted into windows once this morning in the last 3 weeks, and that was just to print (dammn crappy canon printer not having drivers)
[01:10] <HymnToLife> stuck*
[01:10] <frying_fish> kingspawn: he doesnt have a router
[01:10] <frying_fish> he just has a modem by the looks of it
[01:10] <orbin> kingspawn: what frying_fish said :)
[01:10] <kingspawn> hm, oh
[01:10] <frying_fish> and I'm not sure that with a modem you can hook up two devices at once.
[01:10] <pvd2006> hmmm
[01:11] <Tidus> frying_fish: that's why i have an HP printer... file server runs linux, and my clients can run whatever OS they like and still be able to print
[01:11] <frying_fish> orbin: a router would be much simpler to have, one that can connect to the cable modem.
[01:11] <HymnToLife> frying_fish> most Ethernet modems can act as routrs as well
[01:11] <frying_fish> Tidus: yeah, I got given this printer from parents about 6 months ago
[01:11] <kingspawn> orbin: well, if it gives out dhcp, you can _try_ just hooking up your ethernet cable and acquiring an ip
[01:11] <orbin> frying_fish: this one can...it specifically says so.
[01:11] <frying_fish> orbin: oh ok then.
[01:11] <kingspawn> orbin: but as frying_fish is saying, modems might not be too happy to accomodate more than one connection like that
[01:11] <orbin> kingspawn: i don't know what dhcp is :P
[01:11] <Tidus> frying_fish: lol... parents gave me a HP DJ842C
[01:11] <frying_fish> orbin: tried googling the model.
[01:12] <kingspawn> orbin: it just hooks you automatically up to the net (simply put)
[01:12] <frying_fish> Tidus: nice, parents have always had canons and they gave me their old one, its a scanner/ printer / multicard reader combo
[01:12] <HymnToLife> HP rock, their hardware is ridiculously esy to use on Linux
[01:12] <frying_fish> but I can't find a driver for it under linux.
[01:12] <kingspawn> orbin: my advice: hoop up, reboot, see if you're connected.
[01:12] <HymnToLife> it's no fun anymore :(
[01:12] <xbow> i've installed ubuntu 6.04 dapper-flight3 and made upgrade. on the next reboot i've got error "Circular dependancy" and process init was killed. what can i do?
[01:12] <frying_fish> I will probably get a HP next
[01:12] <josh0001> Does anyone know how i can change the root password?.. I set it, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
[01:12] <soundray> HymnToLife: Aldi are selling a nice rebranded MSI laptop here. Should be coming up in your country as well, soon.
[01:12] <frying_fish> xbow: sudo apt-get install -f
[01:12] <kingspawn> josh0001: sudo passwd root
[01:12] <frying_fish> that should sort it out.
[01:13] <HymnToLife> soundray> nice, I ike MSI too, I'm gonna look at it
[01:13] <xbow> frying_fish: i can't boot the system
[01:13] <HymnToLife> gotta buy a new lappy by next month or so
[01:13] <frying_fish> xbow: boot recovery mode
[01:13] <josh0001> kingspawn,  Thanks, that was a bit too easy, How come it was that easy?
[01:13] <xbow> frying_fish: don't work
[01:13] <orbin> kingspawn: don't you have to do something in networking?  and how exactly do i disconnect if i wish to?
[01:14] <frying_fish> xbow: so it won't even boot single mode
[01:14] <frying_fish> interesting, I'm guessing it didn't finish its upgrade
[01:14] <kingspawn> josh0001: setting a password isnt supposed to be hard :)
[01:14] <xbow> frying_fish: ok, i'll try single mode
[01:14] <kingspawn> orbin: what do you mean, disconnect? pull the cable.. =)
[01:14] <josh0001> Does anyone know how I can login as the administrator (root) from the login?.. I just tried it and it said "the system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen"
[01:15] <frying_fish> josh0001: because its not smart to login that way
[01:15] <kingspawn> josh0001: you tried it after setting passwd root?
[01:15] <Remy> !tell josh0001 about sudp
[01:15] <Remy> !tell josh0001 about sudo
[01:15] <josh0001> kingspawn,  yes
[01:15] <bbrazil> josh0001: crtl-alt-f1 try logging in there
[01:15] <NeoCicak> gday...
[01:15] <frying_fish> best way is to login as regular user, then either sudo to do commands, or if sudo is turned off, then su root
[01:15] <Tidus> josh0001: GDM won't let root login
[01:15] <soundray> josh0001: if you are sure that you want that, you have to allow it via System-Administration-Login Window
[01:15] <kingspawn> oh, he tried logging in as root in gdm
[01:15] <kingspawn> I see, I see
[01:15] <frying_fish> josh0001: root login at gdm isn't smart.
[01:16] <NeoCicak> i tried to upgrade to dapper drake according to wiki (using gksudo "update-manager -d")... but it failed on me..... i was wondering if there are any other way (like modifying my sources.list) to upgrade to dapper
[01:16] <josh0001> soundray,  thanks, i just found out that lol, it's given me a loverly black screen with the prompt stuff
[01:16] <soundray> josh0001: enter gnome-session
[01:16] <frying_fish> NeoCicak: simplest is probably to install from cd's
[01:16] <avalost> anyone experiencing problems when doing upgrades with flashplayer-nonfree hanging up the update process?
[01:16] <avalost> seems everytime I do an upgrade the thing stalls
[01:17] <josh0001> How do i logout from this terminal and get back to the loverly GUI login screen?
[01:17] <frying_fish> type exit to logout
[01:17] <soundray> josh0001: Alt-F7
[01:17] <frying_fish> and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to gui
[01:17] <NeoCicak> frying_fish: hmmm.. thats a solution.. but I just want to know what entries i need in my sources.list to upgrade to daper
[01:17] <josh0001> thanks, you're all very helpful
[01:17] <frying_fish> NeoCicak: swap all instances of breezy to dapper
[01:17] <josh0001> I only went into administrator mode (root) because it said i do not have access to my windows particion
[01:18] <soundray> avalost, it probably can't download the archive.
[01:18] <frying_fish> josh0001: you don't need to do that
[01:18] <lodravah> hello people..
[01:18] <lodravah> I
[01:18] <frying_fish> you can do chown -R user:user /path/to/windows
[01:18] <frying_fish> or edit /etc/fstab
[01:18] <josh0001> what's chown?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> !tell josh about ntfs
[01:18] <frying_fish> to have a different umask
[01:18] <orbin> kingspawn: ok, i plugged in.  i can't ping google though.
[01:18] <NeoCicak> ok.... thanks....
[01:18] <kingspawn> orbin: did you reboot?
[01:18] <frying_fish> josh0001: its "CHangeOWNer"
[01:18] <lodravah> I'm having some trouble installing Automatix from easylinux-wiki
[01:18] <avalost> soundray: yes indeed..  I'm using a different computer, and the windows partcicion only has some data files on it.
[01:19] <avalost> soundray: can't recall off  the top of my head..
[01:19] <avalost> sec:
[01:19] <orbin> kingspawn: what line specifically? i can't pastebin.  i'm on the xp bocx atm
[01:19] <Tidus> personally, i always learn more by breaking it.
[01:20] <soundray> avalost: make sure you don't have a proxy set for wget connections. Check with 'env | grep -i proxy' and look in /etc/wgetrc
[01:20] <kingspawn> orbin: the ones talking about an eth0 or eth1
[01:20] <frying_fish> josh0001: fat32 or ntfs?
[01:21] <orbin> kingspawn: hang on.  i'll have to type it by hand in pastebin then :-/
[01:21] <pvd2006> josh0001, type in whereis diskmounter to see if you have it
[01:21] <pawan> hi
[01:21] <kingspawn> orbin: well, did you get an ip?
[01:21] <kingspawn> orbin: thats the most important thing, really
[01:22] <Tartangear> test
[01:22] <josh0001> frying_fish,  it's ntfs.
[01:22] <avalost> soundray: proxy is set to on ;/
[01:22] <frying_fish> ok, so you won't be able to write to it
[01:22] <orbin> kingspawn: never used ifconfig before...like i said new to broadband.  which is the ip? :-/
[01:22] <avalost> #use_proxy = on
[01:22] <avalost> bah
[01:22] <NET||abuse> is there anything that'll give me a gui terminal session on my box that's gonna run as smoothly as rdp on windows?
[01:22] <soundray> avalost: no, it's not set if there is a # at the beginning of the line
[01:22] <Tidus> NET||abuse: freenx
[01:23] <frying_fish> orbin: it should be simple, if it has an ip it will be a set of 4 sets of numbers, most likely something like 192.168.0.X
[01:23] <josh0001> pvd2006,  My hd is there, but it won't let me access it
[01:23] <kingspawn> orbin: hm, probably some number lookiung like <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:23] <NET||abuse> ahh, the nx network X lark, yeh
[01:23] <pvd2006> josh0001, what does it say when you try to access it?
[01:23] <josh0001> frying_fish,  Nope, i won't be able to write to it (sadly) But, i would like to be able to read it
[01:23] <Tidus> NET||abuse, Seveas is the resident FreeNX guru on ubuntu
[01:23] <NET||abuse> Tidus, now i've been helped to identify the package, next step... is there an easy deb package available.. or will i have to setup manually?
[01:23] <josh0001> pvd2006,  I quote .... (hold up, let me type it out)
[01:24] <avalost> soundray: indeed, any other ideas then?
[01:24] <orbin> kingspawn: first two lines: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13695
[01:24] <Tidus> NET||abuse: if Seveas is awake, ask him
[01:24] <frying_fish> josh0001: you can edit fstab to change the ownership of the partition to your user.
[01:24] <josh0001> The folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have persmission nessessary to view the contents of "hda1"
[01:24] <soundray> avalost: env | grep -i proxy
[01:24] <Tidus> NET||abuse: or...
[01:24] <Tidus> !tell NET||abuse about freenx
[01:24] <josh0001> frying_fish,  lol, i'm a bit worried about editing fstab, last time i done that i ruined my mepis instillation.
[01:24] <NET||abuse> Tidus, hehe, the resident everything guru
[01:25] <pvd2006> josh0001, did you try to open it with a window manager?
[01:25] <frying_fish> well, make a back up first
[01:25] <orbin> kingspawn: i'm guessing that's not good obviously
[01:25] <soundray> avalost: if there is a http_proxy or similar variable set, do 'export http_proxy=' before the upgrade
[01:25] <frying_fish> and then, if it fails, load that one.
[01:25] <Seveas> NET||abuse, add one of my mirrors to your sources.list and do: apt-get install freenx (on the server) and apt-get install nxclient (on the client)
[01:25] <kingspawn> orbin: doesnt look too bad, guess your getting that kind of IP since its a modem
[01:25] <ompaul> josh0001, from within the gui click on System Administation Disks
[01:25] <kingspawn> orbin: but no luck pinging anything?
[01:25] <josh0001> pvd2006,  Well, i just click the HD icon on my desktop, and boom, it says that.
[01:25] <avalost> soundray:  env | grep -i proxy returns nothing
[01:25] <josh0001> ompaul,  ok, will do.
[01:25] <NET||abuse> Seaveas.. :) sweet
[01:25] <pvd2006> yeah, I get that too, but I have it on purpose, you can change that like ompaul said.
[01:26] <soundray> avalost: okay, then proxy settings aren't what's causing the trouble.
[01:26] <Overand> heh
[01:26] <josh0001> ompaul,  OK, done, what next?
[01:26] <Overand> bluelotus
[01:26] <Seveas> NET||abuse, that assumes you're not running Dapper by the way, I have no Dapper packages yet
[01:26] <NET||abuse> nono..
[01:26] <orbin> kingspawn: well, when i ctrl+c after a while,  i get : 35 packets transmitted, 0 received, +9 errors, 100% packet loss
[01:26] <NET||abuse> Seveas, sensible on breezy
[01:26] <orbin> kingspawn: and i can't open any webpages in ff
[01:26] <NET||abuse> come Juen though!!! yummy
[01:26] <ompaul> josh0001, so highlight it and give it a partition entry name
[01:26] <NET||abuse> s/Juen/June/ hehe
[01:27] <avalost> soundray: I just wgetted a pic from my webserver
[01:27] <avalost> so wget seems to be working fine
[01:27] <kingspawn> orbin: heh, I see. I really have to leave for work now, but you could try unplugging the usb-thingy and rebooting again, just to check that it isnt the modem not wanting to have two connections like that
[01:27] <Tartangear> test
[01:27] <Tidus> just save yourself the hassle and go buy a router.
[01:28] <orbin> kingspawn: i'll try, but i'm certain it supports it.
[01:28] <soundray> avalost: gotta go. Hope you can fix it.
[01:28] <avalost> thanks man
[01:28] <pawan> some one please help
[01:28] <avalost> adios
[01:28] <ompaul> josh0001, if you call it /windows as a mount point then when finished at the command line do "sudo chown josh:josh /windows"
[01:28] <pawan> i cann't login to gnome
[01:28] <josh0001> ompaul,  Where does it allow me to put in a diferent name?.. from what i see, all it has is "disable, browse, change (access path) and format"
[01:28] <avalost> pawan: why not?
[01:28] <avalost> what happens?
[01:28] <Overand> avalost: because his fingertips are glued to the wrong keys
[01:28] <pawan> it gives error that it runs in failsafe xterm
[01:29] <almadelvento> hi
[01:29] <ompaul> josh0001, the access path is where you tell it what you want to call it
[01:29] <avalost> pawan: try removing gnome .dotfiles to reset things
[01:29] <avalost> and then relogin
[01:29] <pvd2006> ompual what is the josh:josh part?
[01:30] <josh0001> ompaul,  alright, i changed it.
[01:30] <cafuego_> pawan: Check for errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[01:30] <pawan> ok i will try
[01:30] <josh0001> now to the command line..
[01:30] <cafuego_> pawan: ... before you start trashing stuff.
[01:30] <Overand> pvd2006: user "josh" and group "josh"
[01:30] <pvd2006> Oh ok
[01:30] <Overand> pvd2006: that changes the ownership of the mountpoint
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "pawan"
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[01:30] <pawan> grep: Invalid collation character
[01:30] <pawan> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing default failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator
[01:31] <josh0001> ompaul, alright, i typed that in terminal, and it came back with "cannot access '/windows': No such file or directory.
[01:31] <pawan> ok
[01:32] <xbow> frying_fish: The trying was negative :(  Booting in single mode. Error appears when root system is mounting (/scripts/local-top). Then error and kernel panic - not syncing.
[01:33] <liquidindian> Hello, I just a weird thing happen - ubuntu just went to the Gnome login screen without seeming to reset.  Is there any log file that might tell me what happened?
[01:33] <ompaul> josh0001, in a terminal type this "ls /windows"
[01:33] <ompaul> josh0001, in a terminal type this "ls /windows -l" actuall
[01:34] <josh0001> No suck file or directory it tells me
[01:34] <josh0001> such*
[01:34] <jksd> hi, could someone help me with my problem:
[01:34] <jksd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13697
[01:34] <josh0001> ompaul,  It is actually visible when i click browse in the disk manager
[01:34] <pawan> it didn't work
[01:34] <NET||abuse> hmm, how do i set the timezone using cmdline
[01:34] <ompaul> josh0001, sudo mkdir /windows
[01:34] <mwright1> does anyone here use zimbra or scalix?
[01:34] <NET||abuse> i have the time set now
[01:34] <pvd2006> ompaul, I did sudo chown aod:aod /media/windows and it said changing owernship but tit still said access denied when I try to access it.
[01:34] <NET||abuse> just need to get timezone configured
[01:35] <josh0001> ompaul,  I mean... Not browse, when i click change, it gives me a ope dialogue and i see the contents
[01:35] <josh0001> ok
[01:35] <NET||abuse> and get it to use dst also
[01:35] <ompaul> josh0001, your not in a terimal
[01:35] <ompaul> josh0001, which means I have no idea what your doing, or for that matter how your doing it
[01:35] <josh0001> ompaul,  OK, i done mkdir /windows, What next
[01:35] <josh0001> ompaul,  I'm in terminal
[01:36] <ompaul> phone just a min
[01:36] <amimusa> hi again, I still have the mount problem. You can check here: http://pastebin.com/707146 if you want to try to help. Thank you very much for your try
[01:36] <pvd2006> there it goes
[01:36] <pvd2006> its working now
[01:36] <pvd2006> :0
[01:36] <jksd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13697  <--- I have a problem re-installing grub
[01:37] <linux_galor1> jksd: just run grub-install
[01:37] <jksd> linux_g: check the paste bin
[01:37] <ompaul> josh0001, does "grep windo /etc/fstab" return anything?
[01:37] <josh0001> ompaul,  hold on, i think i might have sorted it.
[01:38] <zm0> amimusa: sudo chown amimusa:amimusa /media/usbDev
[01:39] <amimusa> also when I plug the USB device the mount toolbar show the icon with the USB but not way to mount I take an error about wrong fs type ...
[01:39] <jksd> linux_galor1: you see it?
[01:39] <amimusa> zm0, but like that only the user amimusa will access... it's strange... first time I get this... usually I plug it and it works fine ...
[01:40] <cafuego_> mwright1: You looking at setting up a mail system?
[01:40] <amimusa> also... no zm0 ... the problem still the same
[01:40] <amimusa> what strange ...
[01:40] <zm0> amimusa: is it fat32 ? you shouldn't need an entry in your fstab for hotpluggable devices
[01:41] <josh0001> ompaul,  No, grp windo /etc/fstab does not do anything in terminal
[01:41] <orbin> worked out the cable connection if anyone's interested..i needed to use a login client
[01:41] <amimusa> so then doen't work neither or root
[01:42] <jksd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13697  <--- I have a problem re-installing grub, could anyone help me?
[01:42] <ompaul> josh0001, do this and exactly this >> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup <<
[01:43] <ompaul> josh0001, leaving out the <<>>
[01:43] <zm0> amimusa: maybe try to rebuild your file system on the device: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdaX
[01:43] <josh0001> ompaul,  Done.
[01:43] <amimusa> will i lost my data ?
[01:44] <ompaul> josh0001, what kind of windows ntfs or vfat?
[01:44] <jksd> when I try to install grub, I get this error:
[01:44] <jksd> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:44] <amimusa> i can mount it in other machine
[01:44] <zm0> amimusa: yeah, you should back it up first somewhere
[01:44] <josh0001> ntfs.
[01:44] <amimusa> so it's not a problem in the device
[01:44] <ompaul> josh0001, and now do this >> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  <<
[01:45] <josh0001> ompaul,  quick question, where is the file manager where i am able to ender my password so i can delete files from root?.. I created a second windows folder to try and get the ntfs particion to work, but it didn't help. I'm wondering where the file manager is
[01:45] <josh0001> ompaul,  alright...
[01:45] <ompaul> josh0001, what second folder did you create? /media/windows?
[01:45] <josh0001> ompaul,  Alright, done that, it's opened a text file.
[01:46] <josh0001> ompaul,  Nope, in root ( / ) .. So it was " /WINDOWS " in caps, instead of undercaps.
[01:46] <zm0> amimusa: plugin the device and then pastebin the output of dmesg |tail
[01:46] <ompaul> josh0001, okay np - bad idea to use caps in a directory name - you will learn why over time - it is just counter intuitive
[01:47] <stoffer> Hello there
[01:47] <josh0001> ompaul,  ok
[01:47] <ompaul> josh0001, add this line exactly>> /dev/hda1   /media/windows   ntfs   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0 <<
[01:47] <miracle> no one here
[01:47] <ompaul> miracle, your so right 710 times
[01:47] <miracle> hahahah
[01:47] <stoffer> I am one of those damn windows users. I just freshly installed Ubuntu, and I dont even know how to run files I download. For example: I downloaded a ".run" file from Nvidia.com  - How to I execute it?
[01:47] <kbrooks> http://kbrooks.ath.cx/index.php/2006/05/09/comparing-f-spot-and-beagle/
[01:48] <jksd> when I try to install grub, I get this error:     /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:48] <cafuego_> comparing them?
[01:48] <ompaul> stoffer, if you want to do nvidia do this
[01:48] <stoffer> Listening.
[01:48] <ompaul> !tell stoffer about nvidia
[01:48] <ompaul> stoffer, read the message from the bot - it contains URL and that is how you do nvidia on Ubuntu :)
[01:48] <kbrooks> cafuego: it's a point by point  comparison of what they have in common. what tey DON'T have in common would be nice
[01:48] <linux_galor1> jksd: well your main problem is grub doesnt label volumes the same as the normal Linux setup so hda1 means nothing to grub
[01:48] <chombee> DOes anyone know if Arabic is written from right to left instead of left to right? I just installed Arabic language support and it looks that way
[01:49] <stoffer> I got it, ill check it out thank you
[01:49] <Overand> chombee: that's right
[01:49] <josh0001> ompaul,  Alright, done that.
[01:49] <miracle> I wish nVidia could issue a display card of the free-source version
[01:49] <cafuego_> kbrooks: Well <heh> functionality ;-)
[01:49] <amimusa> here you are, thanks for your time: http://pastebin.com/707171
[01:49] <ompaul> josh0001, save and exit gedit
[01:49] <jksd> linux_galor1: so what do I do?
[01:49] <linux_galor1> jksd: grub-install '(hd0)'
[01:49] <kbrooks> cafuego_: what do you mean?
[01:49] <orbin> stoffer: yep, but just so you know, you run run files via terminal (sys > accessories > terminal) .  you cahnge into the directory where the run file is located, then type: ./<nameofrunfile> to run it
[01:49] <cafuego_> kbrooks: They're both nice, but f-spot hasn't rashed my system yet ;-)
[01:50] <kbrooks> cafuego_: hasn't what?
[01:50] <orbin> apps > accessories sorry
[01:50] <cafuego_> kbrooks: bagle on occasion eats all ram + swap
[01:50] <jksd> linux_galor1: replace hd0 with hda1?
[01:50] <miracle> lol
[01:50] <josh0001> that josh001 is me, if anyone is wondering
[01:50] <jksd> linux_galor1: hda1 is the drive I want to install it on
[01:51] <ompaul> josh0001, do this >>sudo mount -a<< and enjoy your partition and WARNING do not try to write to NTFS ever
[01:51] <josh0001> ompaul,  ok. What happens if i try to write to it?.. i hope my computer doesn't blow up
[01:51] <xbow> Problem with mounting root system after the upgrading of dapper flight3. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13698
[01:51] <ompaul> josh0001, well its like this, you won't be able to use windows if you do
[01:52] <linux_galor1> jksd: ok the mbr is on hda  not hda1
[01:52] <amimusa> zm0, it's strange... isn't it ?
[01:52] <ompaul> josh0001, you can look but don't touch - i.e. read don't write
[01:52] <Josh001> ompaul:  It's a windows particion, but it doesn't have windows on it
[01:52] <linux_galor1> jksd: sudo  grub-install  /dev/hda
[01:52] <ompaul> josh0001, same goes for the data on it
[01:52] <josh0001> ompaul,  oh, ok
[01:52] <zm0> amimusa: are you using a usb hub?
[01:52] <amimusa> no
[01:53] <linux_galor1> jksd: forget the 1 you dont need it there is only one mbr per hardisk
[01:53] <kbrooks> heh
[01:53] <kbrooks> update manager autodownloaded those sec updates. only install needed ;)
[01:54] <amimusa> mmm in Debian this kind of things doesn't happend :p
[01:54] <miracle> is debian still alive?
[01:54] <kbrooks> miracle: yes
[01:54] <miracle> oh
[01:55] <amimusa> it's not true at all, but i have a Debian box beside and i mount it easy... I desesperate, losing some time ...
[01:55] <cafuego_> miracle: any reason it wouldn't be?
[01:55] <miracle> too old
[01:55] <kbrooks> miracle: and no, ubuntu isnt debian with "sugar" on top
[01:55] <kbrooks> miracle: _woody_ is too old
[01:55] <miracle> sugar?
[01:55] <amimusa> miracle, of curse
[01:55] <ompaul> miracle, something sweet
[01:55] <jksd> linux_galor1: my HD is partitioned though - hda1 and hda2
[01:55] <cafuego_> miracle: I'll see your "too old" and raise you a "stable".
[01:56] <miracle> "stable but useless" ?
[01:56] <cafuego_> not quite, no
[01:56] <amimusa> zm0, any other suggestion ?
[01:56] <linux_galor1> jksd:   hda  is the hardisk  hda1 is the first partition on the first hardisk  the mbr goes on the first hardisk, you dont put the mbr on the first partition of the first hardisk
[01:56] <jksd> linux_galor1: and I want it installed on hda1 (my linux partition)
[01:56] <jksd> linux_galor1: ah I see
[01:57] <zm0> amimusa: pastebin your dmesg | tail output, or did you already do that?
[01:57] <amimusa> i did
[01:57] <stoffer> While I am successfully installing the nvidia driver (I think, and thanks for the help) - I would like to know: Are there anit virus software for linux?
[01:57] <amimusa> http://pastebin.com/707171
[01:57] <cafuego_> stoffer: Yes, 'clamav' but you won't need it unless you store files or email for use on Windows.
[01:57] <jksd> linux_galor1: i get the same error with: sudo grub-install /dev/hda - which is - /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:58] <linux_galor1> jksd: partitions have there own special version of the mbr
[01:58] <stoffer> Ok, wonderful - So I wont need anything like AVG or Ad Aware in Linux?
[01:58] <ompaul> stoffer, as cafuego_ said, its a design thing
[01:58] <kbrooks> stoffer: no
[01:58] <orbin> stoffer: nope.  great hey?
[01:58] <stoffer> I have fallen in love with Linux
[01:58] <jksd> linux_galor1: so what do I do?
[01:58] <orbin> :)
[01:58] <zm0> amimusa: in your fstab you refer to sda1 but when your device is /dev/sdbx
[01:58] <cafuego_> stoffer: Nope.. you may want an adfilter extension in firefox though
[01:58] <amimusa> stoffer, no... there are not viruses either adwares in GNU/Linux system
[01:58] <ompaul> stoffer, free software and you don't have to reinstall every other week after windows rot sets in :-)
[01:58] <zm0> -when
[01:59] <Josh001> ompaul,  Sadly, that didnt work either, it said "mount point /media/windows does not exist"
[01:59] <linux_galor1> jksd: whats in the /etc/grub.conf  file
[01:59] <stoffer> OMG, it should be illegal not to teach linux in schools
[01:59] <amimusa> no zm0 i deleted the entry for the usb device from fstab
[01:59] <cafuego_> stoffer: Yeh, well :-)
[01:59] <jksd> linux_galor1: BTW I'm in a live CD if that makes any difference
[01:59] <ompaul> josh0001, I know the error quick fix
[01:59] <jksd> linux_galor1: there is no such file
[01:59] <Josh001> ompaul:  sweet.
[01:59] <ompaul> josh0001, sudo mkdir /media/windows
[02:00] <ompaul> josh0001, sudo mount -a
[02:00] <linux_galor1> jksd: aaah yeah it wont work
[02:00] <jksd> linux_galor1: how do I get grub going again then?
[02:00] <stoffer> And everything is like installed beforehand! Open Office <3, Firefox <3, <3 bittorent
[02:00] <linux_galor1> jksd: you dont with a live disk
[02:01] <jksd> linux_galor1: how do I then?
[02:01] <linux_galor1> jksd: the cd becomes the primary master when you boot of it
[02:01] <ompaul> josh0001, now ready very very carefully.       sudo rm /WINDOWS
[02:01] <ompaul> josh0001, now ready very very carefully.       sudo rm /windows
[02:01] <ompaul> josh0001, go get some sunshine :)
[02:01] <jksd> linux_galor1: I have critical files I need to rescue from the linux partition, which I can't get into ATM :/
[02:01] <jksd> linux_galor1: the live cd?
[02:02] <linux_galor1> jksd: you just need to mount the partition then burn/save the files to another media
[02:02] <fear_me> hi
[02:02] <jksd> linux_galor1: cool, how do I do so?
[02:02] <linux_galor1> jksd: you dont need grub for that
[02:02] <babo> arghh... I've forgotten how to restart my mysqld ... what's the debian version of the service command again ?
[02:02] <stoffer> ompaul: I think the driver is installed now. But the windows still lag when I drag them around.....?
[02:02] <jksd> linux_galor1: i tried mounting /dev/hda1 but it didn't work
[02:02] <linux_galor1> jksd: so windows is on hda1 right
[02:02] <jksd> jksd: windows is on hda2
[02:03] <kbrooks> babo: /etc/init.d/mysqld restart
[02:03] <jksd> linux_galor1: windows is on hda2
[02:03] <babo> kbrooks :-)
[02:03] <arrinmurr> anyone know of some macroing tool for linux? something like Macro Magic or Ezmacros for windows
[02:03] <Josh001> Does RM Mean remove??
[02:03] <cafuego_> stoffer: is it enabled as well as installed?
[02:03] <linux_galor1> jksd: ok is it ntfs
[02:03] <kbrooks> josh0001: Yes
[02:03] <stoffer> Give me another sec
[02:03] <ompaul> stoffer, you have to restart X, to do that log out and these three keys  " CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE "
[02:03] <jksd> linux_galor1: don't think so, but really sure though
[02:03] <jksd> linux_galor1: don't think so, but not really sure though
[02:04] <zerium> hi folks, could someone point me in the right direction for tuning ubuntu for a smaller memory footprint?
[02:04] <cafuego_> zerium: uninstall gnome
[02:04] <ompaul> zerium, xubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <zerium> I have it in server mode
[02:04] <zerium> (i mean no desktop x win etc)
[02:04] <linux_galor1> jksd: normaly you just creat a directory with ie mkdir /windows   then mount ti with  mount -t vfat /dev/hda2  /windows
[02:04] <kbrooks> zerium: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <cafuego_> zerium: then unless you're using a bunch of services it don't be using much ram, no?
[02:05] <orbin> playing w/ firestarter, newbie to broadband.  how do i know if my ip address is assigned via DHCP?
[02:05] <linux_galor1> jksd: if it doesnt work then its ntfs
[02:05] <stoffer> ompaul: I am trying to enable it now - but it required password, and nothing happens when I press the keyboard when it requests password
[02:05] <jksd> linux_galor1: the critical files I need are on the linux partition
[02:05] <JRGC> I just updated, but apparently I didn't have enough space on my boot partition, so the kernel was not correctly installed by apt-get.
[02:05] <linux_galor1> jksd: then just mount the Linux partition
[02:05] <zerium> :cafuego I have postfix, mysql and lighttpd running and its using almost 256mb
[02:05] <JRGC> How can I force a reinstallation? Which is the package that installs the kernel on ubuntu?
[02:05] <kbrooks> orbin: um. no need for a firewall in ubuntu
[02:05] <cieniass> hi!
[02:06] <linux_galor1> jksd:  mkdir  /linux   mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever  /linux
[02:06] <cafuego_> zerium: How much does it have all up and how much does it say is cached?
[02:06] <ompaul> stoffer, now you have me confused, you have to log out restart X and then log in
[02:06] <stoffer> ompaul: Before enabling?
[02:06] <ompaul> cafuego_, possible seeing cache as problem :=?
[02:06] <ompaul> stoffer, no after
[02:06] <orbin> kbrooks: at all?
[02:07] <zerium> :cafuego total ram on the box is 256, how do i tell if it is caching ram?
[02:07] <jksd> linux_galor1: thanks! :))
[02:07] <zerium> (wish there was a chkconfig on ubuntu)
[02:07] <cafuego_> zerium: It is. It's designed to, makes it faster :-)
[02:07] <ompaul> stoffer, assuming you followed the instructions on the wiki page you would get to the end of it and it says restart X
[02:07] <metallitux> Can't login to any GUI...whenever I do, it just kicks me back to KDM, with no error msg or anything
[02:07] <cafuego_> zerium: See what it says when you run 'free'.
[02:07] <jksd> linux_galor1: but is there a way so I don't have to restart, ie. get grub running?
[02:07] <stoffer> ompaul: Trying now
[02:08] <amimusa> well, i will come back to Debian I think...
[02:08] <zerium> :cafuego its using around 250mb
[02:08] <amimusa> anyway, thank you very much for your support
[02:08] <cafuego_> zerium: It says 25 Mb under 'cache' ?
[02:08] <cafuego_> eh, 250
[02:08] <johndoe> what is the equivalent of /etc/modprobe.conf in ubuntu breezy
[02:08] <zerium> :cafuego sorry, i'll go look... have to vpn to get to the box
[02:09] <zerium> be back in a few
[02:09] <cafuego_> 'k
[02:09] <stoffer> ompaul: I got the nvidia splashscreen, everything is cool
[02:10] <stoffer> ompaul: What do I do to install for example cedega. Same procedure? Search, or am I supposed to go directly to the terminal?
[02:10] <ompaul> stoffer, cegeda we used to have links to that - however for dapper there is this
[02:11] <ompaul> !cegeda
[02:11] <ubotu> The Process For Dapper Is: dpkg -i xlib.deb <<then >> install cedega <<
[02:11] <stoffer> I am a total noob, you need to guide me more
[02:11] <ompaul> stoffer, for most stuff its on the wiki - take a look at the page "wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats"
[02:11] <stoffer> thank you
[02:12] <linux_galor1> jksd: so your basically trying to reinstall grub from a Live cd, yeah your problem is you trying to install the CD's version of grub not the one on the hardisk
[02:12] <linux_galor1> jksd: you need to mount the hardisk
[02:12] <ompaul> stoffer, ask here before you do something in the main don't try to install something I will now send you something I think you should do via the bot - just do it and then you will have 17k + programs at your fingertips
[02:13] <cafuego_> welcome back
[02:13] <zerium> thanks
[02:14] <metallitux> did anyone see me before? cant get into any gui's
[02:14] <zerium> whats the name of that paste tool thing?
[02:14] <cafuego_> webboard?
[02:14] <zerium> (website)
[02:14] <metallitux> zerium, pastebin
[02:14] <ompaul> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:14] <jksd> linux_galor1: ahh, gotcha
[02:14] <administrador> d
[02:15] <linux_galor1> jksd: http://llug.linux.ab.ca/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=83
[02:15] <valehru> ahh good old Jack Bower is saving the world on my ubuntu distro, playing right beside my winex of Guild Wars :)
[02:16] <Josh001> My ubuntu made an odd noise, why?
[02:16] <speedie> anyone ever used proxytunnel?
[02:16] <zerium> :cafuego here is the result of free: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13699
[02:16] <jack> Josh001: that was your speaker, not your ubuntu
[02:16] <valehru> Josh001, I love it when people personify machines
[02:16] <valehru> lol
[02:16] <Josh001> jack:  My speakers doesn't voluntariley make noises.
[02:17] <jack> ubuntu never does, either
[02:17] <Josh001> jack:  uhm... System notificaitons??..
[02:17] <jack> might be
[02:17] <Josh001> I don't know what it's trying to tell me
[02:17] <cafuego_> zerium: It's using around 200Mb, the rest is used as buffer and file cache
[02:17] <jack> your question just sounded like uhm..
[02:17] <cafuego_> zerium: Has it been running for long?
[02:18] <speedie> anyone have experience getting SSH to go through hardened firewalls?
[02:18] <valehru> 1 beep for format root directory, 2 beeps for core detonation
[02:18] <zerium> :cafuego no a week maybe
[02:18] <speedie> I mean, hardened firewall beyond the point where simply setting up SSHD on a nonstandard port will work
[02:18] <Josh001> valehru:  oh fuc*.. it gave me 3 beeps, that must mean it's armegeddon
[02:18] <hurax> zerium: that's ok, linux has an odd way of using memory
[02:18] <linux_galor1> jksd: better howto -> http://tabreziqbal.wordpress.com/2005/12/29/system-rescue-act-using-gnulinux-live-cd/
[02:18] <speedie> I'm trying to tunnel my SSH traffic over HTTP, so that I can sneak out of the firewall - anyone have any ideas?
[02:19] <hurax> so there is more free memory than appears to be
[02:19] <valehru> hehe.....nah....its just looking for a good time then....insert something into the back of the PC......The plug preferably
[02:19] <zerium> :hurax yeah i just want to deploy another rails app on the box and its going to use up all the memory on the box
[02:19] <cafuego_> zerium: You can probably disable stuff like evms, lvm and mdadm. They won't be using much ram though
[02:19] <cafuego_> zerium: Oh, you run dev envs on the web server?
[02:19] <hurax> zerium: go ahead, you will notice when it starts swapping
[02:20] <zerium> :cafuego not sure what you mean the lighttpd server is running the apps in production mode
[02:21] <cafuego_> zerium: *nod* I dunno offhand how much ram rails would add to a server...
[02:21] <cafuego_> zerium: That said, mysql does like ram ;-)
[02:21] <zerium> :cafuego how do i disable that stuff you mentioned? (and other stuff that)
[02:21] <Josh001> How does one go about creating themes for Gnome?
[02:21] <zerium> :cafuego yeah its using 25ish mb
[02:21] <cafuego_> zerium: mysql will be running multiple processes, too
[02:22] <cafuego_> zerium: 'update-rc.d -f <service> remove'
[02:22] <cafuego_> zerium: .. for any service you don't want/need.
[02:22] <zerium> :cafuego ok, how do i get a list of services running on the box? (just use ps?)
[02:23] <zerium> <--- newbie
[02:23] <cafuego_> zerium: First, check /etc/rc2.d
[02:23] <zerium> :ah ok
[02:23] <jksd> linux_galor1: how do I unmounce? 'sudo unmount /linux' says that device is busy
[02:23] <jksd> linux_galor1: s/umount
[02:23] <jksd> linux_galor1: s/unmount
[02:23] <cafuego_> zerium: Note, some inoccuous looking stuff may be vital (just to make life interesting ;-)
[02:23] <jksd> er heh
[02:23] <HymnToLife> jksd> than you must terminate whatever uses it
[02:24] <jksd> HymnToLife: how do I determine what's using it?
[02:24] <zerium> :cafuego thanks ill give that a shot and come back with any questions
[02:24] <HymnToLife> jksd> most of the time it's some silly stuff
[02:24] <zerium> :cafuego is there a list maintained anywhere that would help?
[02:24] <stoffer> ompaul: I cant really understand what I am supposed to with the links you provided. I just need to install cedega now - and to install a program making me able to run windows based program as for example dreamweaver.
[02:24] <HymnToLife> a terminal window CD'ed to the dir, or a Nautilus window
[02:25] <cafuego_> zerium: Not really...
[02:25] <zerium> :cafuego ok maybe i can paste that list and get someone to help verify what i can turn off
[02:25] <cafuego_> zerium: If you're not using software raid or lvm, you can at least disable lvm, evms, mdadm and mdadm-raid
[02:26] <zerium> :cafuego ok i made a note of that
[02:26] <zerium> :cafuego thanks for your help I'll come back in a bit with my /etc/rc2.d
[02:26] <cafuego_> hold on
[02:27] <tripppy> whats the best filesystem for ubuntu?
[02:27] <zerium> ok
[02:27] <jksd> linux_galor1: I did what it said on the website precisely and go errors
[02:27] <cafuego_> Hmm, not much in rc2.d otherwise, on a basic system.
[02:28] <jksd> linux_galor1: oh wait, it might be OK
[02:28] <zerium> how do i tell ubunto not to try to start pcmcia and other stuff like that that isnt needed on a server box?
[02:28] <cafuego_> sudo update-rc.d -f pcmciautils remove
[02:28] <jksd> linux_galor1: so I'm ready to reboot after doing what it says on that site?
[02:28] <zerium> :cafuego ah ok
[02:29] <cafuego_> that one is probably in /etc/rcS.d
[02:30] <stoffer> Can someone guide me in installing cedega?
[02:31] <yyc747> I'm having problems with my laptop.  either it shuts down before the bootup is complete, or shortly thereafter after reporting a critical temperature error.  as I just turned it on, I doubt it could have already maxed its temp.  also, if it helps, the battery life monitor is unable to find the battery, even when the laptop isn't connected to AC.  could these things be connected?  is the hardware faulty, or can I do something about this?
[02:31] <zerium> :cafuego thanks again im going to try to apply some of these changes
[02:32] <Josh001> Does anyone know how I can set gnome window style, so that I can see the full address IN the window, or in the title bar? Thanks
[02:32] <Chri[s] > how do i enable ident?
[02:32] <Josh001> forget it, i found it.
[02:32] <stoffer> I need basic help for installing downloaded applications. I have found guides on the net, to no help.
[02:32] <kenzi> anyone know where i can download kernel-source-2.6.12-9 ??
[02:33] <cafuego_> kenzi: 'sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)
[02:34] <HymnToLife> stoffer> what are you trying to install ?
[02:34] <cafuego_> kenzi: For most modules, linux-headers-$(uname -r) is sufficient.
[02:35] <cafuego_> stoffer: Most stuff you can install using Synaptic. It's in the System -> Admin menu.
[02:35] <kenzi> cafuego,
[02:35] <kenzi> it cant be found
[02:35] <kenzi> ;/
[02:35] <stoffer> I am trying to install cedega
[02:35] <Nameeater> stoffer: do you have the .deb package?
[02:35] <cafuego_> stoffer: Get the cedega.deb file, run 'sudo dpkg -i <debfile>'
[02:36] <stoffer> I have: .rpm file and .deb file. and .tgz fule
[02:36] <kenzi> anyone know where i can download kernel-source-2.6.12-9 ??
[02:36] <charm> Hey all... I did a apt-get update when my time was off / future, now when I try apt-get update I get "timestamp too far in the future." Anyway to change this?
[02:36] <charm> Other than waiting a couple of days.
[02:36] <cafuego_> kenzi: It's in the ubuntu archives.
[02:36] <stoffer> I am all new to linux, I barely know how to use the terminal
[02:36] <crimsun> kenzi: use linux-source-2.6.12 if you _must_ have the source. besides, cafuego_ already answered you.
[02:36] <cafuego_> kenzi: Ignoring me and reposing the question won't change that.
[02:37] <Nameeater> stoffer: where are those flise?
[02:37] <Nameeater> files*
[02:37] <stoffer> On my desktop
[02:37] <freezey> has anyone every setup phpgroupware?
[02:37] <cafuego_> kenzi: If it can't be found, there is a reason for that.
[02:37] <kenzi> ok ;/
[02:37] <HymnToLife> stoffer> then open a terminal and run sudo dpkg -i Desktop/filename.deb
[02:37] <Chri[s] > how do i enable ident?
[02:38] <cafuego_> Chri[s] : install an ident daemon.
[02:38] <Nameeater> ok, open gnome terminal, type cd Desktop  then type sudo -i cedega_packagename.deb and type your user password
[02:38] <kenzi> ok guys i found it
[02:38] <kenzi> ty for help
[02:38] <xored> what iptable settings are used to be able to use FTP-passive mode on a FTP-serveR ?
[02:39] <stoffer> Ok, I openend the terminal and wrote what you said, but now it asks for password IN the terminal .- but I cant enter it
[02:39] <cafuego_> xored: -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT
[02:39] <cafuego_> xored: load ipt_masq_ftp
[02:39] <cafuego_> ipt_conntrack_ftp even
[02:40] <xored> cafuego: one second, its a bit to much :)
[02:40] <xored> cafuego: i got this : -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT for input, do i need it for output too ?
[02:40] <Nameeater> why cant you enter it?
[02:40] <cafuego_> xored: Not unless you're blocking OUPUT
[02:40] <karina> I'm on breezy having an issue installing nforce audio drivers.  Is there a howto?
[02:40] <Nameeater> oh you mean the characters dont show up?
[02:41] <xored> cafuego: output is on ACCEPT
[02:41] <cafuego_> xored: -state RELATED,ESTABLISHED actually
[02:41] <imonkey> !dapper
[02:41] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[02:41] <orbin> how would i update my ati.com fglrx driver?  do i need to uninstall, or do i just repeat the install process w/ the new driver?
[02:41] <ompaul> stoffer, I was not here, to install applications you should always first check the system to see if the application is bundled with it, to do this follow the instructions in  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto  that is what I wanted you to do next, there is a very valid reason for you doing this next
[02:41] <xored> cafuego: i have blocked all ports except : 20/21 ( udp/tc), 80. do i need to open some oprts above 1023 ?
[02:41] <karina> !nforce
[02:41] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, karina
[02:42] <Nameeater> ompaul: its cedega so it wont be
[02:42] <stoffer> ompual: The app is not bundled
[02:42] <Nameeater> stoffer: so whats the problem at the moment?
[02:42] <cafuego_> xored: No, of you allow RELATEd and ESTABLISHED packets, with conntrack_ftp loaded, the firewall will keep an eye on what to allow.
[02:42] <ompaul> Nameeater, however for 99% of applications that is the way forward and afik its looking for some lib these days
[02:42] <stoffer> That I cant figure this out, its so confusing
[02:42] <stoffer> Terminal: There is no such directory
[02:42] <xored> cafuego: how to load this module ?
[02:43] <xored> cafuego: could you give me a whole example line ?
[02:43] <cafuego_> xored: sudo modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
[02:43] <Nameeater> stoffer: cd ~/Desktop
[02:43] <ompaul> stoffer, .dkyour country has a huge FLOSS supporting community,
[02:43] <Nameeater> make sure the D is a capital as linux is case sensitive
[02:43] <karina> Is anyone using an nforce sound card?  Should it work out of the box?
[02:43] <ompaul> Nameeater, I'll leave it with you
[02:43] <Smacky_Wolf> Karina, I am trying to
[02:44] <stoffer> ompaul: and how do I reach em?
[02:44] <cafuego_> xored: For he rule, 'sudo iptables -A INPUT -i <interface> (-d destination) -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT'
[02:44] <ompaul> stoffer, I'll get you a url please wait a moment I need to ring someone
[02:44] <stoffer> ok
[02:44] <stoffer> Still now
[02:44] <cafuego_> sorry, phone...
[02:44] <Smacky_Wolf> karina, mine is builtin, but it came with drivers for linux.. i dunno
[02:44] <stoffer> Can I get some help in the meantime?
[02:44] <Nameeater> stoffer: me!
[02:44] <xored> cafuego: it worked like a sharm. thank you a lot
[02:44] <stoffer> Yes, thank you very much
[02:45] <stoffer> I have three files on my desktop (I think its called desktop, I dont know) - and I want the application to be installed.
[02:45] <Nameeater> stoffer: so, close the last terminal you had open, open a new one and type cd ~/Desktop  make sure the D is a capital
[02:45] <ompaul> stoffer, have a look at this www.lug.dk
[02:45] <stoffer> got .rpm and .deb. and .tgz
[02:45] <phil0u> bonjour
[02:45] <HymnToLife> stoffer> can you read ?
[02:45] <stoffer> ok
[02:45] <phil0u> oops , hello :)
[02:45] <HymnToLife> you were told a million times you had to run sudo dpkg -i filename.Deb
[02:46] <stoffer> ompaul: Can I reach them over IRC?
[02:46] <L0g0ff> hi, when i start wine il get the error: "error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so". I know the problem is in the lib path. I found many articles on the internet where the say i must edit my: /etc/ld.so.conf. But I don't have this file on my ubuntu 5.10 install. What can I do?
[02:46] <Nameeater> stoffer: so you are now in the Desktop folder in your terminal?
[02:46] <ompaul> stoffer, read that some of them may maintain IRC check it out
[02:47] <stoffer> but it'll confuse me more
[02:47] <stoffer> Then I have to figure out that too
[02:47] <HymnToLife> stoffer> but what's the problem ?
[02:47] <Nameeater> stoffer: please listen to me or I am going to go to bed :(
[02:47] <HymnToLife> Open a terminal (Applications > Accessories)
[02:47] <stoffer> I am listening!
[02:48] <stoffer> Icant type the line you said I should
[02:48] <HymnToLife> why ?
[02:48] <stoffer> Now. Terminal says: Desktop$
[02:48] <HymnToLife> ok
[02:48] <Nameeater> good!
[02:48] <HymnToLife> then type
[02:48] <HymnToLife> sudo dpkg -i name_of_your_file.deb
[02:49] <Awesome-o2000> are there ubuntu-friendly driver packages for one to use for their ATI card]
[02:49] <Smacky_Wolf> Anyone think that having too long a cat5 between the PC that is serving interwebs to my ubuntu box would be slowing it majorly down? the internets, i mean
[02:49] <HymnToLife> !tell Awesome-o2000 about ati
[02:49] <Warbo> Smacky_Wolf: It would probably depend on the speed of your LAN
[02:49] <stoffer> Now, it asks for my password
[02:49] <stoffer> But I cant enter anything
[02:49] <HymnToLife> type it then :)
[02:50] <Nameeater> after Password: comes up your characters will not appear in the terminal, this is a security measure, but type your user password and it will work fine
[02:50] <HymnToLife> yes you can
[02:50] <stoffer> No I cant.
[02:50] <HymnToLife> you don't see anything but it's ok
[02:50] <yyc747> what exactly is the text-mode install CD for dapper?  is this the same as the previous installers?
[02:50] <HymnToLife> just type your password and press enter
[02:50] <stoffer> Whatever I press, it dosent type anything on the screen
[02:50] <stoffer> ahhh ok
[02:50] <Nameeater> its a security measure to prevent people looking over your shoulder and reading it :)
[02:50] <L0g0ff> hi, when i start wine il get the error: "error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so". I know the problem is in the lib path. I found many articles on the internet where the say i must edit my: /etc/ld.so.conf. But I don't have this file on my ubuntu 5.10 install. What can I do?
[02:50] <Warbo> I've heard a lot about DMA for making disk access faster. Would it work for a USB hard disk?
[02:50] <L0g0ff> warbo: no
[02:51] <crimsun> L0g0ff: create it. By default we don't need an /etc/ld.so.conf.
[02:51] <Warbo> L0g0ff: OK, thought not
[02:51] <stoffer> Give me a sec
[02:51] <Smacky_Wolf> warbo: I'm not sure, but seeing as I'm sharing dialup, I need to make it as fast as I can. I get a ping of about 154ms
[02:51] <tripppy> whats the best filesystem for ubuntu?
[02:51] <Smacky_Wolf> ext3?
[02:51] <L0g0ff> thanks crimsun. I'll try to find an example somewhere
[02:52] <m_0_r_0_n> and the best filesystem for mounts? smbfs, nfs, nis?
[02:52] <stoffer> Error. package xlibs is not installed
[02:52] <L0g0ff> resiserFS oid
[02:52] <avalost> hrm, anyone have any idea why the ubuntu fluxbox package does not have fluxbox-generate_menu compiled?
[02:52] <Marius_> Hey, can anyone help me with the error I'm getting: "[4294770.245000]  usb 5-5: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[02:52] <Marius_> "
[02:52] <Warbo> Smacky_Wolf: I think the faster the connection, the smaller the network has to be (physically), but the faster your hardware is capable of the better it will be. In other words, using a gigabit ethernet connection at 10kb/s will be more reliable over longer distances
[02:52] <FliesLikeALap> m_0_r_0_n  that isn't something you can choose if the filesystem is already on the disk. you have to use the one that is used on the drive
[02:52] <stoffer> nameeater: I get an error
[02:52] <Smacky_Wolf> warbo: thanks <3
[02:53] <stoffer> what is xlibs?
[02:53] <Nameeater> its a package
[02:53] <stoffer> Where do I install it?
[02:53] <Warbo> stoffer: Libraries used by the graphics (X) server
[02:53] <m_0_r_0_n> FliesLikeABrick, ok, thanks
[02:53] <Nameeater> stoffer: type sudo apt-get install xlibs
[02:54] <Nameeater> in the terminal
[02:54] <Warbo> stoffer: "sudo apt-get install xlibs"
[02:54] <stoffer> Yay, installing
[02:54] <Smacky_Wolf> The speed of my download makes me sadface. 3300 b/s
[02:55] <Warbo> stoffer: For a nicer interface to install packages on a console you can use "sudo aptitude"
[02:56] <tripppy> how do i share a printer with windoz ?
[02:56] <stoffer> It works, I installed it!
[02:56] <Warbo> tripppy: Samba
[02:56] <bimberi> !xpprint
[02:56] <ubotu> Printing from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[02:57] <tripppy> sweet
[02:57] <zerium> :cafuego i turned off the raid stuff
[02:57] <jksd> hi, how do I get grub to load into my linux partition rather than my win partition?
[02:57] <jksd> I'm not even sure if grub is up and running
[02:57] <zerium> :cafuego still here?
[02:57] <Warbo> jksd: Press esc when you are booting (it will say in the corner) and there should be a menu
[02:58] <jksd> War: I think it's not working then
[02:58] <zerium> hi all if i am running my box as a server do i need to have the nvidia-kernel run on startup?
[02:59] <zerium> (not using x)
[02:59] <Warbo> jksd: You can boot from a live cd, mount your Linux system then run "grub-install /dev/yourharddrive"
[02:59] <stoffer> Now, can anyone helping me installing an application enabling me to use gtalk and msn?
[02:59] <jksd> War: yeah, I've just done that
[02:59] <stoffer> and for that matter any windows based app?
[02:59] <Warbo> jksd: In a chroot I mean
[02:59] <Nameeater> gaim does that stoffer
[02:59] <stoffer> Can you link me up?
[03:00] <jksd> Warbo: yeah, I've just done that, but it's not working
[03:00] <Warbo> stoffer: apt-get install gaim
[03:00] <Nameeater> it shdould be under Applications -> Internet -> Gaim
[03:00] <stoffer> Thank you.
[03:00] <Nameeater> Warbo: isnt gaim preinstalled? :)
[03:00] <jksd> Warbo: could it be something to do with the menu.lst file?
[03:00] <Warbo> Nameeater: Well, he didn't have xlibs
[03:00] <fernando> hi all, anyone have dapper install freeze problem in "selecting and installing" time? I look a problem in X probe test.
[03:00] <stoffer> Maybe, I dont know the app. How does recycle bin work in linux?
[03:00] <Nameeater> you have a point
[03:01] <Warbo> jksd: The only thing that might affect it in there is the timeout. If it is set to 0. Otherwise I don't know why it isn't coming up
[03:01] <Nameeater> if your using the GUI everything is moved to the Trash icon at the bottom right
[03:01] <jksd> Warbo: when I type grub in the shell, and type 'root (hd0,1)' I get 'filesystem is FAT'
[03:01] <jksd> Warbo: alright, I'll check that
[03:02] <Warbo> jksd: You may want to get rid of hidden if it is set that way as well. There is not much point if you have more than one OS
[03:02] <rocky> morning
[03:03] <Warbo> afternoon
[03:03] <maskd> evening
[03:03] <jksd> grub> root (hd0,1)
[03:03] <jksd>  Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0xc
[03:03] <jksd> Warbo: could that be anything to do with it?
[03:04] <Warbo> jksd: You do know that that is your second partition?
[03:04] <rocky> I've been pulling my hair out on this for 2 days. Trying to convert a ' to \' with sed or awk. Can someone show me how to do this without it barfing?
[03:04] <jksd> Warbo: no, I'm new to all this :/
[03:05] <jksd> Warbo: I know that windows is my second partition
[03:05] <Warbo> jksd: They both start at 0, so hd(0,0) is first partition forst disk
[03:05] <Warbo> jksd: Do you have any LiveCDs that use GRUB?
[03:06] <jksd> Warbo: I'm in an ubuntu liveCD ATM
[03:06] <jksd> Warbo: so if I set it to, root (hd0,0), it should work?
[03:06] <Warbo> jksd: If you can get into GRUB you can boot your Linux system, Ubuntu uses a different system I think
[03:07] <Smacky_Wolf> could anyone tell me why ./configure won't work?
[03:07] <jksd> Warbo: yeah, but I want to load up ubuntu without having to go through the live cd
[03:07] <Smacky_Wolf> on a clean install, with the req'd pkgs/
[03:07] <Warbo> jksd: Booting Windows and Linux is very different. Windows is "chainloaded" and Linux is booted by GRUB
[03:07] <HymnToLife> Smacky_Wolf> what are you trying to build ?
[03:07] <orbin> rocky: more generic channels might be helpful: #linux, #linuxhelp
[03:07] <Smacky_Wolf> Alsa drivers.
[03:07] <jksd> Warbo: I see, but grub can load windows too, no?
[03:07] <zerium> can someone help me with advice on which services i need to run on bootup for a server?
[03:07] <HymnToLife> !alsa
[03:07] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[03:07] <zerium> (or which ones i can turn off)
[03:08] <Warbo> jksd: Well, GRUB doesn't actually load windows. It just lets go of the system so Windows can use it's own bootloader
[03:08] <kuja> jksd: Yes, yes it can.
[03:08] <kuja> Same effect.
[03:08] <Smacky_Wolf> I'll just grab it with apt
[03:08] <Warbo> jksd: What I am getting at is that you need a root line, a kernel line, an initrd line then boot
[03:08] <Warbo> jksd: You cannot just replace your Windows entry with your linux partition
[03:09] <jksd> Warbo: so how do I fix all this?
[03:09] <rocky> zerium: Here is what I have running ... S05vbesave             S20courier-pop      S89anacron
[03:09] <rocky> S10acpid               S20courier-pop-ssl  S89atd
[03:09] <rocky> S10sysklogd            S20hotkey-setup     S89cron
[03:09] <rocky> S11klogd               S20makedev          S91apache2
[03:09] <rocky> S12dbus                S20mysql            S91apache-ssl
[03:09] <rocky> S15bind                S20nanoFW           S99acpi-support
[03:09] <Warbo> jksd: Well, do you know if GRUB is loading at all? It seems like it isn't, then changing it's config is pretty useless
[03:09] <jksd> do I add a windows entry into the menu.lst file?
[03:09] <rocky> S20courier-authdaemon  S20pop-before-smtp  S99rmnologin
[03:09] <rocky> S20couriergraph        S20postfix          S99stop-bootlogd
[03:09] <rocky> S20courier-imap        S20pure-ftpd-mysql
[03:09] <rocky> S20courier-imap-ssl    S20ssh
[03:09] <maskd> rocky: http://pastbin.com
[03:09] <maskd> http://pastebin.com
[03:10] <jksd> Warbo: it might be loading since I did root(hd0,0) in the grub shell
[03:10] <Warbo> jksd: Ubuntu should have added any windows installations it found during install
[03:10] <jksd> Warbo: ahh, you see, I installed linux first and windows second
[03:10] <Warbo> jksd: That root line just tells thew GRUB that you are running where to work. It needs to be installed
[03:10] <Warbo> jksd: There you go. Windows overwrites GRUB
[03:11] <jksd> Warbo: yeah I know that, it overwrites it in the MBR
[03:11] <Warbo> jksd: A simple "grub-install /dev/hda" should do it. Once you are in Ubuntu you can easily add windows to the menu.lst
[03:11] <jksd> Warbo: OK, I'll try it again
[03:11] <donvella> jksd: title (Windows XP) > root (hd0,0) > savedefault > makeactive > chainloader +1
[03:11] <donvella> jksd: where hd0,0 is that is where my windows partition is installed, yours may be different
[03:12] <jksd> Warbo: is it /dev/hda or /dev/hda1?
[03:12] <Warbo> donvella: His is hd0,1
[03:12] <jksd> donpachi: thanks
[03:12] <donvella> Warbo: cheers.
[03:12] <jksd> donvella: thanks
[03:12] <Warbo> jksd: The master boot record is hda, hda1 will install it to a partition (if you want to chainload it)
[03:12] <donvella> Warbo: what does chainloader do exactly?
[03:12] <fernando> how to install dapper without any X probe?
[03:12] <traveller> does anyone have problems with cjk input with scim on breezy amd64? on breezy x86 it works as expected, but on amd64 it falls short of actually making the cjk input.
[03:13] <donvella> traveller: i had quite a few problems with the 64bit version.
[03:13] <HymnToLife> donvella> it tells GRUB to use the bootloader that is on the given partition
[03:13] <HymnToLife> instead of tryng to boot it itself
[03:13] <traveller> donvella: by any chance you know it might be fixed in dapper?
[03:13] <orbin> fernando: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[03:13] <Warbo> donvella: It tells GRUB to let go of the system and hand it over to the other bootloader. Usually windows', but if you have like, Fedora and Ubuntu, you can install one on a partition and one on MBR. Then chainload the MBR one onto the partition. That way the config files won't over write each other
[03:13] <jksd> Warbo: so do I want to do /dev/hda or /dev/hda1?
[03:14] <Warbo> jksd: hda
[03:14] <donvella> traveller: no i dont, i had breezy 64bit it was very unsupported, dodgy, i went back to x86 and upgraded to dapper, couldnt be happier, runs about the same as 64bit.
[03:14] <jksd> OK, thanks, can I test it, or do I have to reboot to do so?
[03:14] <traveller> donvella: i see, thanks
[03:14] <jksd> Warbo: it's just this live cd takes ages to boot