[00:01] <_mup_> ensemble/config-get r202 committed by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:01] <_mup_> remove unused method, tests pass dicts rather than strings to get/set
[00:07] <_mup_> ensemble/config-get r203 committed by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:07] <_mup_> comminucation tests passing
[01:02] <kim0> hey guys, just pushed a docs branch .. it's lots of text, so your eye balls are highly appreciated :)
[01:04] <kim0> btw I'm off next week .. longish easter .. have fun everyone
[01:06] <jimbaker> kim0, enjoy!
[01:06] <kim0> Thanks :)
[01:06] <jimbaker> kim0, looking at it now, looks good so far but i will spend some time reviewing it
[01:07] <kim0> Great!
[01:07] <jimbaker> kim0, one more thing - will you be at UDS in budapest?
[01:07] <kim0> It will definitely "grow" a bit with the upgrade/expose stuff ..etc .. just a start for now
[01:07] <kim0> and yes I should be there
[01:07] <kim0> woohoo :)
[01:07] <jimbaker> cool, looking forward to meeting up with you
[01:07] <kim0> same here
[01:08]  * kim0 hugs the virtual team
[01:08] <jimbaker> kim0, thanks, the same :)
[01:31] <hazmat> kim0, docs look great, thanks, and have a good holiday
[01:32] <kim0> hazmat: o/ thanks man .. you too
[01:32] <kim0> I should really sleep now .. it's 2:30am hehe
[01:32]  * kim0 → /dev/bed
[01:41] <_mup_> Bug #769286 was filed: Need updated zookeeper packages, else agents segfault <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/769286 >
[02:13] <_mup_> ensemble/expose-ensemble-commands r208 committed by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:13] <_mup_> Exposed flag support


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[21:26] <vorlon> dgadomski: please provide more details and a link to a bug report
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[19:21] <gottago_nostalgi> hi
[22:31] <xubuntu67i> Hey, I've got a dumb request - can anyone send me a screenshot of the last page that you go through before Xubuntu starts installing from a LiveUSB? I stupidly hit next and started the installation without double-checking what I wrote on that page.
[22:32] <xubuntu67i> It's the one where you set the computer's name.
[23:08] <xubuntu39w> Hello everyone, total (x)ubuntu noob here. I've installed it just an hour ago, switching from evil windows 10 to xubuntu, and it's all good except one thing: it doesn't detect the HDD I plugged onto the pc with the usual USB-SATA wire. I have all my stuff on that hard disk, anyone could be of any help? Thanks in advance
[23:11] <gnrp> xubuntu39w: when you do `dmesg`, what are the last few lines (after connecting it)?
[23:11] <gnrp> paste it somewhere
[23:12] <gnrp> !paste
[23:15] <xubuntu39w> @gnrp here! https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bvRNtHyzhB/
[23:15] <xubuntu39w> (there's ALOT of stuff, if more is needed I can paste it)
[23:16] <gnrp> xubuntu39w: That's the last few lines only, but really the last few ones?
[23:16] <gnrp> so your computer deos not even see a USB device. Are you sure teh HDD is spinning up and that there's not power missing?
[23:17] <xubuntu39w> @gnrp Yes, from the terminal. I also plugged the charger into the sata jack, with its blue light on, but it doesn't seem to spin or give any sign of life
[23:18] <xubuntu39w> Note that that procedure allowed me to visualize the contents of the hdd on windows, if it's the powering the main concern
[23:26] <gnrp> hm. Can you try to reverse the procedure? Like plugging in AC first, then USB, and the other way round?
[23:26] <xubuntu39w> Let's see
[23:28] <xubuntu39w> Unfortunately nothing changed
[23:29] <gnrp> then I am also clueless, sorry. Maybe stay around in this channel for a while and somebody else will show up and say something
[23:30] <xubuntu39w> Thank you for your time anyway!
[23:30] <gnrp> but for now I would say it is a deeper hardware thing - the device does not even show up
[23:30] <gnrp> one more thing:
[23:30] <gnrp> after you re-plugged the hard drive, can you please paste the output of `dmesg` again?
[23:30] <gnrp> and also the output of `lsusb`?
[23:30] <xubuntu39w> ok
[23:32] <xubuntu39w> here is dmesg https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dkFH5CZJqx/
[23:33] <xubuntu39w> and lsusb https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C3Dhhn7ph2/
[23:33] <xubuntu39w> I don't know anything but judging from the second one the hdd doesn't even show up
[23:34] <gnrp> I suspect it is an older computer?
[23:34] <gnrp> ah, lol, I can look it up myself
[23:34] <xubuntu39w> Yeah it's one of those compact pcs
[23:35] <gnrp> ah, and maybe do not look here for help. This does not seem to be a Xubuntu issue, but a general thing. Go to #ubuntu
[23:35] <xubuntu39w> ok, thank you!
[23:35] <gnrp> and btw, no clue where you are from, but my impression is also that #xubuntu is pretty European. I.e., most of the people are sleeping right now...
[23:36] <xubuntu39w> Yeah it's midnight lol
[23:37] <gnrp> oh, and btw, did you maybe try another usb port?
[23:37] <gnrp> that could be one more thing to try. But I really suspect some hardware issue rather than software. Linux should at least complain rather than not seeing *nothing* at all
[23:37] <xubuntu39w> Yeah, all of them haha
[23:38] <xubuntu39w> it's just weird that it could be an hardware issue since before, with windows, it used to work
[23:40] <xubuntu39w> oh right, I'll try with another hdd since I've got two
[23:40] <xubuntu39w> and I should mention that I ripped em off of dead computers lol
[23:40] <gnrp> hehe
[23:40] <xubuntu39w> (should raise suspicions, but they used to work, i'll see tho)
[23:42] <xubuntu39w> usually when you plug in some external drive where does it show up? on the desktop?
[23:43] <xubuntu39w> ok, the second hdd seems to spin and make noise
[23:44] <gnrp> lol, that's already much better
[23:44] <gnrp> when you start the file manager
[23:44] <gnrp> there would be the option to mount it
[23:44] <gnrp> don't know if the standard xubuntu configuration would show them on the desktop already
[23:47] <xubuntu39w> hm, it's already set to show external stuff, I got it to show hidden files just in case, but nothing
[23:49] <gnrp> hm, what do you mean? You have it mounted?
[23:49] <gnrp> so you see it in the file manager?
[23:49] <xubuntu39w> nope and nope
[23:49] <gnrp> paste then please dmesg again
[23:49] <xubuntu39w> kk
[23:49] <xubuntu39w> !paste
[23:51] <xubuntu39w> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7sJCs4h5jc/
[23:51] <xubuntu39w> if it's worth mentioning, it detect a normal USB i just plugged in
[23:52] <xubuntu39w> just not the hdds
[23:52] <gnrp> please show a dmesg from that then (when the usb drive is plugged in) and also a lsusb
[23:52] <gnrp> when you also have the hdd connected
[23:54] <xubuntu39w> ok, so this is the dmesg with only the usb (only last lines, if you need it all I can paste it) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Jq3jwS6pm/
[23:55] <xubuntu39w> and the second one https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/b5BCMj5mQH/
[23:56] <gnrp> hm, ok. I cannot help with that, I'm sorry
[23:56] <gnrp> so you can clearly see the USB drive there, but the HDD doesn't leave a single clue
[23:57] <xubuntu39w> yeah it's weird, I don't know anything about that but maybe it has to do with the fat42something or nfts (or how is it called), I'll keep looking on the web
[23:57] <xubuntu39w> thank you again kind stranger!
[23:57] <gnrp> no, it has nothing to do with the filesystem
[23:57] <gnrp> I mean, that would be the second thing that might require debugging
[23:58] <gnrp> for now the whole device is just "invisible". If it was a filesystem issue, you would at least see the hard drive showing up in dmesg and lsusb
[23:58] <xubuntu39w> maybe it's because it's partitioned for windows? are things partitioned 'for things' at all? lol i'm lost
[23:58] <xubuntu39w> I see
[23:58] <gnrp> no, the partitioning is also not an issue
[23:59] <gnrp> then you would see a weird partitioning or some errors (linux numbers partitions, so sda1 is the first partition etc.). But you would still see the hardware
[23:59] <xubuntu39w> hm
[23:59] <gnrp> I suppose it is no issue with whatever is *on* the hard drive, but it is deeper down the line, somewhere on USB level


[00:16] <ps2chiper> hey guys, anyone up?
[06:20] <ps2chiper> hello, is anyone paying attention?
[09:45] <ndec> ogra_: hi. how come the server image is bigger than the desktop image? i thought that the server was replacing the headless, but if it's bigger than desktop, what's the point?
[10:06] <hrw> kgilmer: hi
[10:06] <hrw> kgilmer: happy birthday!
[10:09] <lilstevie> I'm having network manager issues with wifi and oneiric
[10:09] <lilstevie> details I do not have, it just isn
[10:09] <lilstevie> isn't scanning*
[10:11] <ogra_> ndec, there is a package archive inside, the actual installed packageset is as small as headless, the additional package archive enables you to do a server install packages without network
[10:12] <ogra_> -server
[11:01] <ps2chiper> hey guys
[11:42] <doko_> rsalveti, janimo bug reports for the arm test rebuild?
[11:42] <ps2chiper> hello doko_
[12:02] <ogra_> ndec, hmm, wrong passcode over here
[12:04] <rsalveti> doko_: will try again today, tried to run svammel with some custom options to avoid filling bugs automatically but launchpad was giving timeout all the time yesterday
[12:05] <doko_> rsalveti, well, for those five reports ...
[12:09] <rsalveti> doko: running it now, seems to be going
[12:10]  * doko hopes that it doesn't close none of my bugs ;)
[12:10] <rsalveti> doko: nops, added an interactive option
[12:10] <rsalveti> before doing stuff he asks me :-)
[12:11] <ps2chiper> hey guys, can i borrow some of your time?
[12:15] <kgilmer> thanks hrw :)
[12:41] <davidm> ndec, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeas
[14:23] <ppisati> ogra_: janimo NCommander GrueMaster rsalveti: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.0.0-1204-omap4_3.0.0-1204.9_armel.deb
[14:23] <ps2chiper> hello,
[14:23] <ppisati> here is the new omap4 kernel
[14:23] <ppisati> BSP update
[14:23] <ps2chiper> are the americans online?
[14:23] <ppisati> ehci fix
[14:23] <ppisati> sound on
[14:23] <ppisati> etcetc
[14:23] <ppisati> please, take it a spin
[14:23] <ppisati> works here
[14:24] <ppisati> i would like to pull req today since tomorrow i'll leave for plumbers
[14:24] <ps2chiper> hello ppisati, can i have a chat with you?
[14:24] <rsalveti> ppisati: sure, will check
[14:25] <ppisati> i'm pushing it to zinc right now
[14:35] <ppisati> git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ppisati/ubuntu-oneiric.git
[14:35] <ppisati> ti-omap4
[14:55] <rsalveti> ppisati: hm, got 640x480 with hdmi here
[14:55] <rsalveti> let me check the kernel log
[15:08] <rsalveti> ppisati: console is still blue
[15:09] <ppisati>  yep, i know
[15:09] <ppisati> and if i disable FB_OMAP
[15:09] <rsalveti> probably need an additional config
[15:09] <ppisati> we completely loose it
[15:09] <rsalveti> as agreen reported it worked fine for him
[15:09] <ppisati> i know
[15:09] <rsalveti> hm
[15:09] <ppisati> updateconfigs wanted me to turn off FB_OMAP due to DRM_OMAP=m
[15:10] <ppisati> but in that case i completely lost console and X
[15:10] <ppisati> i know it's something we need to tweak
[15:11]  * ppisati bails for a bit
[16:09] <ppisati> rsalveti: is it a showstopper for you this video degrade? since it's just a matter of tweaking the correct config, shouldn
[16:09] <ppisati> rsalveti: we pull now and fix later?
[16:09] <rsalveti> ppisati: give me some mins, recompiling the kernel to see if it works better
[16:10] <ppisati> rsalveti: ok, i'll stay here (more or less) for 5/6 hours more
[16:11] <rsalveti> ppisati: great
[16:30] <ndec> rsalveti: thx for u-boot ;-)
[17:34] <ppisati> rsalveti: i'm to going to my gym, back in a couple of hours
[17:34] <rsalveti> ppisati: have a patch for you
[17:34] <rsalveti> let me just revoot
[17:41] <rsalveti> argh, for some reason flash-kernel is not using the kernel I want
[17:43] <rsalveti> ok, created uImage and uInitrd by hand
[17:44] <rsalveti> ppisati: http://people.linaro.org/~rsalveti/0001-UBUNTU-Config-Enabling-DRM_OMAP-as-built-in.patch
[17:44] <rsalveti> now it's using the drm omap driver for both hdmi and dvi
[17:44] <rsalveti> working fine here
[17:46] <rsalveti> ppisati: then if you want to debug your hdmi/dvi output, use drm.debug=7 and omapdss.debug=1 at your cmdline
[17:46] <rsalveti> you should be able to see all the modes detected from your edid
[19:50]  * ppisati just came back from gym (and had a pizza+beer)
[19:51] <ppisati> rsalveti: ok so, i apply your patch and pull req
[20:09] <rsalveti> ppisati: why go to the gym if you're having pizza+beer later?
[20:09] <rsalveti> haha
[20:10] <ppisati> good question :)
[20:11] <ppisati> perhaps because so i can have the pizza+beer later and have no remorse? :)
[20:23] <ppisati> rsalveti: do i need anything else (like an external driver) to get video out? my screen is on but is totally blanked
[20:50] <ppisati> anyway, pull req sent
[20:50] <ppisati> and now i can pack my panda board :)


[00:13] <slangasek> _MMA_: right; there is an apt-setup fix that's applicable to all alternate CDs, so we might want to reroll for that as it is
[00:13] <slangasek> _MMA_: but that's certainly unrelated to nvidia problems...
[00:13] <_MMA_> Sure.
[00:14] <slangasek> _MMA_: TheMuso just says a tester already ran into the apt-setup problem, so I'm respinning now
[00:14] <_MMA_> slangasek: Ill try to test on another box. I get this on 2 boxes so far and TheMuso is reporting successful virtual tests.
[00:14]  * TheMuso will test on real hardware this time.
[00:15] <TheMuso> Although they will take longer due to slower hardware. :)
[00:24] <slangasek> respin done
[00:24] <TheMuso> slangasek: Thanks
[00:24]  * TheMuso syncs.
[00:25]  * _MMA_ as well
[00:26] <TheMuso> _MMA_: actuallyt hey are not up on cdimage yet.
[00:26] <TheMuso> actually even
[00:26] <_MMA_> k
[05:45] <mathiaz> slangasek: ok - I've tested -server amd64.
[05:45] <slangasek> sweet
[05:45] <mathiaz> slangasek: I'll do i386 tomorrow.
[05:45] <slangasek> cheers :)
[06:20] <TheMuso> c
[07:38] <ara> morning all :)
[08:33] <ara> morning davmor2
[08:34] <davmor2> morning ara
[09:44] <xivulon> hi all, re #204133 and the new ntfs-3g package in hardy proposed.
[09:45] <xivulon> that includes the cking patch to add syncio.
[09:45] <xivulon> had a quick chat with slangasek, the package will not be dropped and should in fact be tested
[09:45] <xivulon> even though users are not expected to make use the new functionality (which is active in 8.10)
[09:47] <xivulon> what should be tested IMO is whether that introduces any regression in terms of normal ntfs usage
[09:48] <xivulon> i.e. you mount an ntfs partition with the hardy proposed ntfs-3g, hammer it, and check whether you have any fs corruption
[09:48] <xivulon> there should be no change as without the optional mount flag the behaviour is expected to be identical to before
[09:49] <xivulon> for good measure, you might want to test also when mounting with "-o syncio", same procedure as above
[09:50] <xivulon> myslef and cking tested that with 8.04(.1?) and was ok, the same option has also been used in 8.10 (although as part of a larger upstream changeset)
[09:53] <slangasek> xivulon: it's best if you can put a test case in the bug description that describes how to do the regression testing
[09:53] <xivulon> will do
[10:25] <xivulon> please see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/204133/comments/67
[15:01] <davmor2> Finally I can get to do some testing :)
[15:03] <rubys> is alpha3 available yet?
[15:07] <davmor2> rubys: it can be tested for alpha3 yes.  These are the current images available http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all
[15:10] <davmor2> morning cgregan how's things?
[15:11] <cgregan> hey davmor2, I am freezing!
[15:11] <cgregan> davmor2: otherwise ok
[15:11] <davmor2> -5 not surprising :)
[15:12] <cgregan> They are calling for -5F soon
[15:12] <cgregan> davmor2: Not the worst I've experienced though
[15:13] <davmor2> :)
[15:13]  * cgregan thanks ubuntu gods for not putting OEM Services in Fargo North Dakota
[15:13] <davmor2> slangasek: how heavy a coverage do you want on the available iso's?
[15:13] <slangasek> davmor2: the usual sparse coverage for alphas
[15:14] <slangasek> i.e., at least one test per image, at least one test per test case type
[15:14] <davmor2> slangasek: np's I'll start as soon as they finish syncing :) any idea on when the others will be up
[15:15] <slangasek> when they're viable, which they aren't yet
[15:16] <slangasek> we're looking at Friday for the alpha release now, unfortunately
[15:17] <davmor2> Cool gives more time to test :)
[15:19]  * davmor2 start's on ubuntu alt's
[17:02] <davmor2> so no nvidia drivers in jaunty a3
[17:08] <sbeattie> davmor2: BTW, did the change I committed to the dl-iso script fix the issue for you?
[17:09] <davmor2> seemed to thanks I got all the images this morning at any rate :)
[17:17] <mathiaz> slangasek: -i386 server iso tested and all test passed. same for -amd64 server iso :)
[17:20] <davmor2> slangasek: I've not marked the nvidia driver issue as serious because you can cope with the usable desktop on the nv driver.  But I think it definitely needs to go in the release notes.


[05:14] <tcpdumpgod> w00t
[05:15] <JonathanElli1> jrib: Hello
[05:15] <jrib> hi
[05:16] <JonathanElli1> Just waiting for reboot
[05:20] <JonathanElli1> Error message as follows: User's $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users.
[05:21] <jrib> JonathanElli1: hmmm, did you recursively change the permissions on your HOME?
[05:21] <JonathanElli1> I think this was the error previously. In future I will always write error messages down rather than trying to rely on my memory!
[05:23] <JonathanElli1> Erm. It was a few days ago but I think yes, because it seemed the "easy" (sorry, lazy! - please forgive a recent convert from windows) way to set permissions on all the files and directories beneath /home/username. With hindsight I guess I should have changed permissions on /home/username/*.* recursively instead
[05:23] <jrib> JonathanElli1: well you shouldn't have needed to change any
[05:24] <jrib> JonathanElli1: can you get to a terminal now?
[05:24] <JonathanElli1> Yes. All applications start and I have opened a terminal. Presumably I now need to chmod /home/jonathan 644. Is that right before I break it again?!
[05:25] <jrib> JonathanElli1: what does 'ls -ld ~/.dmrc' return?
[05:26] <JonathanElli1> -rw-rw-rw- 1 jonathan jonathan 28
[05:26] <nalioth> JonathanElli1: no
[05:26] <jrib> JonathanElli1: k, 'chmod 644 ~/.dmrc'
[05:26] <nalioth> JonathanElli1: if you recursively change _all_ the files under your homedir, you will create a brick.
[05:26] <JonathanElli1> I dont understand why my laptop, logged on as the same username and password couldnt access the files
[05:26] <nalioth> JonathanElli1: the permissions, that is
[05:27] <nalioth> sorry to interrupt, jrib, but i thought i'd throw that in
[05:27] <JonathanElli1> Yes. I already discovered that the hard way! Now we are trying to fix it
[05:27] <jrib> JonathanElli1: actually, my ~/.dmrc is 600, so do that instead
[05:27] <jrib> sure nalioth
[05:27] <nalioth> easiest way is to back up your stuff you want to keep and reinstall  :(    ( just my opinion )
[05:28]  * nalioth has done this  ( recursively chmodded himself )
[05:28] <JonathanElli1> What is the difference between 644 and 600, and please don't say 44 :-(
[05:28] <jrib> the 44 means read for group and others
[05:29] <jrib> "read privileges"
[05:29] <JonathanElli1> Nalioth. Backing up an entire hard drive strikes me as a lot harder than typing half a dozen commands into a terminal!
[05:29] <JonathanElli1> Especially when I couldnt start any applications to actually do the backup
[05:30] <jrib> nalioth: if he backs up the data in his home, it's going to retain the permissions anyway though, right?  I suppose he could delete all the dot files and let them be recreated
[05:30] <nalioth> JonathanElli1: not the whole drive
[05:30] <JonathanElli1> So 600 is rwx for u, 644 is rwx for u plus r for go, correct?
[05:31] <nalioth> jrib: i made myself a new user, actually
[05:31] <JonathanElli1> Why do I need to delete anything. Why cant we chmod them back to what they should be
[05:31] <jrib> JonathanElli1: when you recursively changed the permissions on your HOME, you performed an operation that is impossible to reverse.  It is as though I change all the letters "A" and "B" to "X" and then ask you to tell me what was "A" and what was "B" in the word "XXXXX"
[05:31] <nalioth> and transferred over the stuff i needed, as i needed it
[05:31] <JonathanElli1> OK
[05:31] <nalioth> JonathanElli1: because they are all different
[05:32] <nalioth> JonathanElli1: most are permissioned for you, but some the system has assigned specific perms
[05:32] <JonathanElli1> Yes, your answer came through just before I posted my question
[05:32] <jrib> JonathanElli1: your statement about 600 and 644 was correct
[05:33] <JonathanElli1> So why do you suggest 600 when the error message suggested 644?
[05:33] <jrib> JonathanElli1: on my system it is 600.  You can try both if you like.  Both will probably work
[05:34] <JonathanElli1> Hmm. No disrespect intended but I would prefer to do it by the book - ie 644
[05:34] <jrib> go for it
[05:34] <JonathanElli1> So I will do chmod 644 ~/.dmrc   Correct?
[05:34] <jrib> yes
[05:35] <JonathanElli1> By the way, can you remind me what ~ is and what the . prefix does?
[05:35] <jrib> ~ means /home/jonathan
[05:35] <jrib> . is part of the filename
[05:36] <JonathanElli1> Yes. There are lots of files prefixed .               They seem to be hidden. Does the dot make them hidden or designate them as system files?
[05:37] <nalioth> the dot designates a hidden file
[05:37] <nalioth> !cli
[05:37] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:38] <JonathanElli1> Thanks. OK. So now the permissions are -rw-r--r--
[05:40] <JonathanElli1> Now I think I need to create a new user and copy all my documents, music, videos etc to the new user. I guess this will mean that the new user profile (sorry for the windows speak - dont know the correct unix term yet) has correct permissions set for the essential files and directories?
[05:41] <JonathanElli1> Will I then be able to delete the buggered-up jonathan and rename the newuser to jonathan?
[05:41] <JonathanElli1> Or must I delete jonathan and recreate it and copy everything back again?
[05:43] <jrib> JonathanElli1: create new user, copy data, transfer ownership of data to new user, delete old user, rename new user.  Unfortunately I have to go now though
[05:43] <jrib> JonathanElli1: if you can live with a different username until someone else can help or you poke me tomorrow, you should be able to do steps 1-3 above
[05:44] <JonathanElli1> Thanks. I can probably manage 4 & 5 as well. Any idea why the laptop couldnt access the files even though it was logged in as the same user and pwd? Thats why I started the whole fiasco in the first place
[05:45] <jrib> JonathanElli1: permissions are determined by uid
[05:45] <jrib> a number
[05:45] <JonathanElli1> uid?
[05:45] <JonathanElli1> !uid
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <jrib> JonathanElli1: type 'id' in your terminal
[05:46] <JonathanElli1> Both laptop and desktop show 1000 for jonathan
[05:46] <jrib> JonathanElli1: then it probably should have worked.  How did you copy them?
[05:46] <JonathanElli1> So it seems to me that it should have worked
[05:47] <JonathanElli1> Using file manager and navigating to //desktop/jonathan/blahblah
[05:47] <jrib> samba?
[05:47] <JonathanElli1> Or possibly ///desktop/jonathan/blahblah
[05:48] <JonathanElli1> No. I shouldnt need samba cos both machines are running ubuntu
[05:48] <jrib> how did you copy them?
[05:48] <jrib> or how are you accessing the other machine?
[05:48] <JonathanElli1> I dont want anything more to do with windows. By using drag and drop in file manager
[05:49] <JonathanElli1> The two machines are on the same subnet. I forgot to mention I mapped the ip address of the desktop to "desktop" in hosts on the laptop
[05:51] <JonathanElli1> But if you have to go, I can try to get to the bottom of that one another day since I have succesfully copied all the files I need to the laptop. I am very familar with windows networking but there are some peculiarities of ip in linux that I dont know yet
[05:51] <JonathanElli1> Thanks very very much for all your help
[05:51] <jrib> JonathanElli1: I don't see what happened right away.  You could always repose the question in #ubuntu.
[05:52] <jrib> no problem, good night
[05:52] <JonathanElli1> Goodnight - sorry morning
[05:52] <jrib> :)
[18:56] <visualdeception> are we still having our weekly meeting??
[19:03] <Heartsbane> I am planning on it
[19:03] <Heartsbane> I don't know where everyone else is
[19:03] <visualdeception> ok
[19:03] <visualdeception> i have seen zelut twittering, so I assume he is around somewhere
[19:04] <Heartsbane> anyone seen pleia2?
[19:09] <Heartsbane> visualdeception: guess we were the only two who remembered to show
[19:09] <visualdeception> nice
[19:10] <visualdeception> Zelut: ping
[19:10] <visualdeception> pleia2, ping
[19:11] <Heartsbane> visualdeception: next time we will set them a hiveminder
[19:11] <Heartsbane> :)
[19:11] <visualdeception> lol one got created yesterday
[19:11] <pleia2> hey
[19:11] <visualdeception> i was just going through the tasks
[19:11] <Heartsbane> pleia2: hey 2 U
[19:12] <visualdeception> hey pleia2 how goes it
[19:13] <pleia2> it goes
[19:13] <Heartsbane> visualdeception: what did you get as purposed slogans because I saw one on the mailing list that was good
[19:14] <visualdeception> i think the only ones were on the mailing list....
[19:14] <visualdeception> if we can get a consensus on one I'll work on getting it finished up/cleaned up
[19:15] <Heartsbane> I liked Ubuntu Classroom - Learn something new every day, or ubuntu classroom - tweak it yourself
[19:16] <visualdeception> ok
[19:17] <visualdeception> any other feedback?
[19:17] <Heartsbane> That is just me, maybe take all the submissions and put them in a list send it out the group since many of them are not here
[19:18] <visualdeception> http://linux.dudenhofer.net/ubuntuclassroom.png
[19:18] <visualdeception> there is the base image
[19:18] <pleia2> I like the "learn something new every day" one too - not overly fond of the "tweak" one since I think it comes off as a bit nerdy
[19:19] <visualdeception> ok, i think I can handle that
[19:19] <Heartsbane> I guess we make a quorum 3 votes for 'learn something new everyday'
[19:19] <visualdeception> lol
[19:20] <Heartsbane> pleia2: any word from Belinda Lopez?
[19:20] <pleia2> Heartsbane: nope :\
[19:20] <Heartsbane> I take it also no word from Jono either?
[19:21] <Heartsbane> most likely because of LUG Radio Live?
[19:21] <pleia2> possibly, they're both there
[19:21] <Heartsbane> who is going? I am planning on going
[19:21] <pleia2> I did get a note from one of the UOW organizers though, he sent out a call for sessions to all of us who had done them in the past
[19:22] <Heartsbane> nice, so I would imagine there is some progress there
[19:22] <pleia2> I forwarded the email to Zelut in case he wanted to follow up, but ..
[19:23] <Heartsbane> What did you mean 'they're both there'?
[19:23] <Heartsbane> ya but ...
[19:23] <pleia2> Jono and Dinda are both involved with LUG Radio Live
[19:23] <pleia2> "We've begun planning the next Ubuntu Open Week. Right now we have
[19:23] <pleia2> April 28 to May 3rd penciled in as the dates."
[19:23] <Heartsbane> Oh I didn't know Dinda was involved
[19:24] <visualdeception> do we know who is handling open week?
[19:25] <pleia2> Jorge Castro is the one who sent out the email
[19:25] <pleia2> I don't know him
[19:26] <Zelut> sorry, had to tend to the baby
[19:26] <Zelut> I know Jorge.. I can talk to him
[19:26] <Heartsbane> Isn't that Jono's counterpart/assistant to Jono
[19:26] <Zelut> Heartsbane: yeah
[19:26] <Heartsbane> sorry Community Manager...
[19:28] <Heartsbane> okay I guess that brings us to Classroom Guidelines, has anyone read this lately other than me?
[19:29] <visualdeception> link?
[19:29] <Heartsbane> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/Guidelines
[19:30] <Heartsbane> I was going to start there, but the only interested in feeback about what still should apply was RyanC
[19:30] <pleia2> I don't like the GUI & CLI requirement
[19:31] <Heartsbane> really because?
[19:31] <pleia2> people tend to do one or the other, not always easy to find an expert in both or two experts who are available and willing at the same time
[19:32] <Heartsbane> I can understand that
[19:32] <visualdeception> and since we are starting over again, we will probably be recruiting people to teach rather than waiting on volunteers
[19:33]  * pleia2 nods
[19:34] <pleia2> I think in general the guidelines were there back in the day for the off chance that someone did volunteer and wanted some instructions (there was a fair amount of recruiting and in house teaching then too)
[19:35] <Heartsbane> other than that, anyone feel that anything needs to be changed
[19:36] <pleia2> I think we might consider changing the 1.2 section at some point - but leave modifying that until we have some experience as to what works
[19:36] <pleia2> 1.2.1 that is
[19:37] <Heartsbane> in what way, are you saying that +m to the channel probably won't be necessary, or atleast at the start?
[19:38] <pleia2> yeah, or the way of asking questions could be loosened up somehow
[19:39] <Heartsbane> okay
[19:39] <pleia2> UOW tends not to set +m unless requested, and then the lesson people can always /msg the ops to change channel settings if things get out of hand, or they want freer conversation
[19:40] <Heartsbane> Usually every UOW I have seen is +m, but we will see how it goes
[19:40] <Heartsbane> okay I will make those adjustments, as well as work on incooperating it nicely into the front page, show it off next meeting :)
[19:40] <visualdeception> cool
[19:41] <Heartsbane> Lets go back to Logo/Slogan review for a second since we have 1 more now
[19:41] <Heartsbane> is Christer still out there?
[19:43] <Heartsbane> guess not, visualdeception lets just go with 'learn something new everyday'
[19:43] <Heartsbane> make a submission to the mailing list so everyone can have their input
[19:43] <Heartsbane> that would be my suggestion
[19:43] <visualdeception> i can handle that
[19:44] <Heartsbane> give it a week, and then if that idea floats, we sail on it
[19:44] <pleia2> sounds good
[19:44] <visualdeception> ok
[19:45] <Heartsbane> I guy RyanC is still working a blootbot/mootbot/waytomanykindabots solution
[19:46] <Heartsbane> we have a blootbot variant in my LoCo channel and I love it
[19:46] <pleia2> solution for?
[19:46] <Heartsbane> factoids, editing 's/soltion/solutions/g'/reminders
[19:47] <Heartsbane> I don't know, I was hoping to hear more about the idea
[19:48] <pleia2> ok
[19:48] <Heartsbane> pleia2: it was coded by Tim Riker, a Debian Dev
[19:48] <Heartsbane> I know you are still use Debian or so I have read
[19:49] <pleia2> yeah, and I'm a package maintainer
[19:49] <Heartsbane> I don't know if you know his name
[19:49] <pleia2> what does the bot do in your loco channel exactly?
[19:49] <Heartsbane> onjoin reminders, factoids, logging, editting typos
[19:50] <pleia2> I see
[19:50] <Heartsbane> that is all I have ever seen it do, I just want to hear RyanC ideas about what he wanted to do with it
[19:50]  * pleia2 nods
[19:51] <Heartsbane> so I guess that is still postponed
[19:51] <Heartsbane> Last item, has anyone contacted anyone to present other than US Teams
[19:52] <Zelut> i have not
[19:52] <Zelut> looks like i lost connection for 10min in there.  I'm going to have to get the logs later :(
[19:54] <Heartsbane> any ideas? desktop? gasp? exaile? KDE? any thoughts?
[19:54] <pleia2> I think the Bug Squashing Team would be particularly open to giving classes
[19:55] <Heartsbane> maybe a idea by First Week in April ... really cause I would really like that
[19:57] <Heartsbane> Anyone want to handle that?
[19:58] <pleia2> what, coming up with ideas on what teams to contact?
[19:59] <Heartsbane> Yes, or contacting some teams because eventually we are going to have to contact someone, because I don't think they are going to contact us
[20:04] <Heartsbane> Well I guess I will type this up, and post it tonight
[20:04] <Heartsbane> later
[20:04] <pleia2> thanks Heartsbane
[20:04] <visualdeception> thanks!


[11:29] <snap-l> G'morning
[14:21] <snap-l> So, how about this morning?
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> I forgot my headphones at home.
[14:22] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: ugh
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> I came up with a solution, but I don't think the building is tall enough to jump off and die
[14:22] <snap-l> don't forget them tomorrow. New OMC tomorrow. :)
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> \m/
[15:42] <rick_h> party
[15:42] <rick_h> will probably need you guys to handle CHC without me another week :(
[15:48] <Blazeix> man, too many more absences and we'll lose our python flavor
[15:48] <Blazeix> next time you show up we'll all be programming C# on mono on our macbooks.
[15:51] <brousch> Blazeix: that would be awesome
[15:57] <snap-l> rick_h: That bad, eh?
[16:15] <jrwren> lolz
[16:18] <rick_h> well you're all hacking on bookie anyway right? so you're doing a bunch of python :P
[16:34] <jrwren> i'm doing a bunch of python
[16:34] <jrwren> but not bookie.
[16:34] <jrwren> sorry, its not my passion.
[16:34] <jrwren> it works great as is.
[16:34] <rick_h> jrwren: boooo :P it's good practice :)
[16:34] <rick_h> jrwren: how goes the new gig?
[16:34] <jrwren> its great.
[16:34] <rick_h> awesome
[16:34] <jrwren> awesome environmen.t
[16:35] <rick_h> make sure to check out the great pycon vids
[16:35] <jrwren> they are 10yo startup, so they are trying to keep that startup vibe.
[16:35] <jrwren> snack wall
[16:35] <jrwren> soda
[16:35] <jrwren> pingpong
[16:35] <jrwren> mame cabinet
[16:35] <rick_h> hah,k cool
[16:35] <jrwren> all the amenities.
[16:35] <jrwren> yeah, i'll watch pycon vids.
[16:53] <tjagoda> Ahoy
[16:57] <snap-l> rick_h: Oh Christ, you're on Steroids again?
[16:57] <snap-l> I hope nobody does anything at work. :)
[16:58] <rick_h> snap-l: yea, I've got the yummy fully medicated head going on with the raging roids
[16:58] <rick_h> why I think I'll bow out of CHC even thuogh I might feel beter by wed night
[17:06] <brousch> jrwren: there is also a conference just for django: djangocon. they have gob of videos too
[17:07] <snap-l> brousch: All anyone really wants from Djangocon videos are the admin screen.
[17:07] <brousch> actually only about half of the videos are django-specific
[17:08] <rick_h> yea, it's actually got some ok things in there
[17:08] <brousch> the other half are general python and web good stuff
[17:08]  * snap-l thinks up more Django harassment
[17:08] <brousch> they always have at least 1 why django sucks talk
[17:09] <rick_h> they invited chris to do the annual "i hate django" talk, but he declined saying he loves django :P
[17:09] <snap-l> WEll, didn't they invite Mark Ramm on e year to give that talk?
[17:09] <rick_h> yea, he's given it before
[17:09] <brousch> nice
[18:14] <jrwren> rick_h: where do you fall in the "star imports are bad" argument?
[18:15] <rick_h> very bad
[18:15] <rick_h> explicit > implicit
[18:15] <jrwren> from module import * <-- i'm i removed some of these from a module on friday in favor of specifying each name specifically
[18:15] <jrwren> cool.
[18:15] <rick_h> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/__init__.py
[18:16] <jrwren> rick_h's approval is my gauge for if i'm doing it right
[18:16] <jrwren> holy page of imports rick_h !
[18:17] <rick_h> one import per line, sorted, and you can easily find out where any keyword/class comes from
[18:22] <brousch> rick_h++
[18:30] <jrwren> i did the from module import name1,\\nname2,\\nname3
[18:30] <jrwren> and sorted?  fuk that, unless a tool will rearange for me.
[18:30] <jrwren> :p
[18:31] <rick_h> jrwren: :!sort
[18:31] <rick_h> well highlight first
[18:31] <brousch> i sort them if i notice they are jumbled
[18:31] <jrwren> good call.
[18:31] <jrwren> ty
[18:31] <rick_h> and split by stdlib import x, then from x import stuff, then your own local imports
[18:31] <brousch> rick_h must have lernt me that early on
[18:32] <snap-l> I just gave our iso auditor a copy of 11.10
[18:32] <rick_h> it's pretty standard pep8 stuff I think
[18:32] <rick_h> hah, nice!
[18:32] <rick_h> did you pass?
[18:32] <jrwren> i'll bet if you wrote C you would decl your vars at the top, k&r style.
[18:32] <rick_h> I do that in my JS, jslint style
[18:32] <jrwren> maybe someday I'll learn
[18:32] <brousch> snap-l: do they do more than md5 it?
[18:33] <snap-l> rick_h: Other than sounding like Porky Pig when asked what I think the quality policy is (from memory) I think I passed
[18:34] <rick_h> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/static/js/bookie/view.js#L1205
[18:35] <jrwren> sometimes i don't know how i lived w/out byobu
[18:35] <jrwren> the bw monitor alone is life changing
[18:38] <rick_h> bw monitor?
[18:45] <jrwren> the status line in byobu shows me outgoing and incoming data rates for my interface
[18:51] <rick_h> ah