[00:00] <Jordan_U> Epx998: I think $timeout gets cleared when you interact with the menu. You could try "source /boot/grub/grub.cfg; echo $timeout", but that's not nearly as conclusive a test.
[00:00] <wakeatnight> I am trying to disable notifications while in LightDM.
[00:00] <daftykins> ok, saw making use of a theme and pondered.
[00:00] <wakeatnight> Ah OK :)
[00:00] <wakeatnight> If you know how, daftykins that'd be great though.
[00:00] <daftykins> nope
[00:00] <durt> Just upgraded to 15.10 lost 3g usb modem (connects but no network) anyone else?
[00:00] <daftykins> i'd have opened with that ;)
[00:00] <Epx998> Jordan_U: same result
[00:03] <wileee> durt, usb modem namw the actual hardware from lsusb here if you can
[00:03] <Epx998> Maybe I have an issue with different kernls on the sytstem
[00:03] <wileee> name*
[00:04] <Epx998> nope
[00:04] <durt> wileee, thanks but haven't started the investigation yet, looking to see if there's already a work around
[00:04] <MrWizard> hi ive been using ubuntu as a side project and it and mint linux are good competitors
[00:04] <reisio> MrWizard: neat
[00:05] <TJ-> Epx998: what does grub.cfg set timeout= to? In the source, if it is == 0 it does unset(timeout), which would explain what you experience
[00:05] <Epx998> TJ-: I have it set to 5 right now
[00:06] <Epx998> maybe my menu position is off
[00:06] <TJ-> Epx998: if it counts down and reaches 0 then what I said above would still happen. If you interrupt the countdown before it reaches 0 can you see a value?
[00:06] <Epx998> TJ-: It isnt counting down
[00:07] <tlt> if you have pressed a key then the countdown cancels
[00:07] <TJ-> Epx998: you may not see it but timeout-- is done each second, unless a key is pressed. If auto_boot != 1 the default won't be booted
[00:07] <tlt> such as up/down arrow and etc
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Wait, are you getting stuck at a grub *menu* or at the grub shell? The grub.cfg you posted has no menu entries.
[00:08] <Epx998> Jordan_U: grub menu
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Then the grub.cfg you posted is not the one being read at boot.
[00:09] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Epx998
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Epx998: My guess would be that you have a separate /boot/ partition that isn't being mounted as it should, but the RESULTS.txt from boot info script should clarify things.
[00:11] <TJ-> It could be the custom.cfg
[00:12] <Epx998> Jordan_U: OK
[00:13] <Epx998> Jordan_U: Results.txt => http://paste.ofcode.org/39MXQ4dZPeVbLHChGKBWbEN
[00:17] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Indeed, the grub.cfg on sda1 sets timeout=-1 with recordfail. But I would say that your /boot/ not mounting properly is actually a bigger problem.
[00:18] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab (which boot info script was supposed to grab, but failed to).
[00:18] <Epx998> Jordan_U: http://paste.ofcode.org/aZBJM7uRZEta8NyMnCi5pN
[00:19] <tlt> well getting to boot at all is good though
[00:19] <tlt> missing boot could have disallowed it
[00:19] <TJ-> well, there's the problem! no mount of /dev/sda1 /boot
[00:19] <tlt> honestly sounds like a double install of grub somehow
[00:19] <Epx998> tlt: I brought that up previously to the guy who owns the kickstart server, /boot was missing as a partiton.
[00:20] <tlt> Epx998, oh, well having a boot as ext2 is usually a good idea
[00:20] <TJ-> Epx998: so, all OS update-grub activities are being written to the root file-system instead
[00:21] <Epx998> ah ok
[00:21] <Epx998> Anything I can do here to get this reading the correct info?
[00:23] <TJ-> Epx998: mount /dev/sda1 to a temp-dir, copy/move everything from /boot/ into that temp-dir, unmount temp-dir, remount /dev/sda1 to /boot, "grub-install /dev/sda" "update-grub" and add "/dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults 0 2" to /etc/fstab
[00:23] <Epx998> geebus ok - sec
[00:24] <TJ-> Epx998: correct ... fstab file-system ext2 should be ext4 !
[00:24] <TJ-> s/correct/correction/ !!
[00:26] <tlt> uh it's good to have boot as ext2 isn't it
[00:27] <Epx998> this look ok? => /dev/sda1       /boot           ext4    defaults        0 0
[00:27] <TJ-> Epx998: Looks fine
[00:28] <Sbur> Just got finished upgrading to 15.10 and I'm very happy.
[00:28] <wileee> Sbur, give it time, ;)
[00:28] <Sbur> Still not completely happy with Internet DJ console, but that will come one day once I get it to function well
[00:28] <Epx998> Got an error
[00:29] <Sbur> wileee: What does that mean?
[00:29] <wileee> Sbur, a joke, we deal with broken stuff here not everyone is happy.
[00:29] <Sbur> wileee: Should I be scared?
[00:29] <Epx998> TJ-: http://paste.ofcode.org/NuvZTXqkPd8xhRkqdMJi7P
[00:29] <wileee> Sbur, Nah, runs great always here.
[00:30] <Sbur> wileee: When I get some time to ask for help, I'm going to ask for help with Internet DJ console which is giving me problems for a couple of upgrades
[00:31] <Sbur> But good night ... it's after 2am here in Belgium
[00:31] <TJ-> Epx998: Right. grub-install is trying to use the GPT BIOS Boot partition. There's a protective MBR, it needs to recognise/use that so it puts core.img in the spare sectors from 1-2047
[00:32] <TJ-> Epx998: that's one of the few things I've never needed to force; not sure how to do that. Maybe Jordan_U knows?
[00:36] <wolf__> Hi there anyone still here ?
[00:36] <reisio> nope
[00:36] <wolf__> t:)
[00:37] <wolf__> dude, i have a problem with lsb when i do update && upgrade
[00:37] <reisio> nowai
[00:37] <wolf__> booooooooooooring
[00:37] <daftykins> wolf__: show this issue in a pastebin.
[00:37] <space_monkey> how to implement tuple space paradigm??? architecture of the system??
[00:38] <daftykins> space_monkey: wrong channel
[00:38] <reisio> space_monkey: with tuples
[00:38] <wolf__> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/1qEypSCu
[00:38] <space_monkey> where i can ask question distributed systems
[00:39] <space_monkey> daftykins: ??
[00:39] <Casey> anyone know how to connect the mail command to ssmtp
[00:39] <space_monkey> daftykins: suggest distributed systems channel !! pelase
[00:40] <daftykins> space_monkey: no, this is not a personal directory for finding your way around freenode
[00:40] <daftykins> wolf__: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[00:41] <wolf__> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[00:42] <daftykins> alright well your output is in French so that's not going to make life too easy for me
[00:42] <wolf__> daftykins: i wanted to install a wireless printer XP-615 but i failed and now i got this errors evrytime i upgrade
[00:42] <wolf__> yep sorry
[00:42] <wolf__> dependencies problem
[00:43] <tlt> ubuntu is package managed so it's disconcerting to get dependency errors
[00:43] <tlt> wonder how you all do it
[00:43] <daftykins> wolf__: what was that command though? "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[00:43] <daftykins> tlt: how the users do it that break it, or? :P
[00:43] <wolf__> the same error with this command dafty
[00:44] <tlt> daftykins, yeah they should stick to using apt properly
[00:44] <tlt> instead of pulling in random packages and not resolving deps etc
[00:44] <wolf__> i installed the printer in printer manager and i got this error
[00:44] <daftykins> wolf__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[00:45] <daftykins> tlt: life happens, now please keep the silly comments to yourself
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Epx998: You should create a BIOS Boot Partition. It only needs to be 1 MiB large and contains no filesystem. I find it odd that you have a GPT disk in a BIOS based system with no BIOS Boot Partition and had an fstab which had comments for /boot/ and swap but no actual entries for them.
[00:47] <wolf__> daftykins: why he asks me to create an additionnal home directory,, i did it /mnt/home   i'm waiting
[00:47] <Casey> the examples I see using ssmtp use the command mail but for me it says that mail doesn;t exst
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Epx998: If we've found this many problems just from researching this grub problem, there may be many more. It might be a good idea to re-install this server with someone who is paying more attention and have them document everything they do (it appears like someone deleted entries from the fstab that were automatically created by Ubuntu's installer, but then didn't document why they did so).
[00:48] <daftykins> wolf__: who does?
[00:48] <Casey> how do I setup the mail command to run ssmtp
[00:48] <wolf__> in console
[00:49] <wolf__> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/aTmPJkcJ
[00:50] <daftykins> there's nothing about creating a home there
[00:51] <wolf__> yep i got a window about additional directory and certificates but the command didnt work
[00:51] <daftykins> well it did because a lot of that output = progress.
[00:52] <wolf__> honestly its boring
[00:52] <wolf__> and when i tried to purge it , doesnt work also
[00:52] <Jordan_U> Epx998: For more information on the BIOS Boot Partition see: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html
[00:53] <daftykins> wolf__: repeat the last command and share only the new output
[00:56] <bewbz> I'm currently upgarding to 15.10, is everything on my current system going to be be upgraded along with it?
[00:56] <bewbz> I get a fresh start, yes?
[00:56] <bewbz> nothing carries over?
[00:56] <daftykins> no it all comes over
[00:57] <daftykins> you'd clean install if you wanted clean
[00:57] <mati> hola
[00:57] <mati> hablas castellano
[00:57] <daftykins> !es
[00:57] <mati> ?Ç
[00:57] <bewbz> ok that works too. thaqnks daftykins
[00:57] <wolf__> daaftykins: http://pastebin.com/YKMBSE0i
[00:58] <daftykins> weird it's repeating
[00:58] <daftykins> wolf__: what about "sudo apt-get -f install" now?
[01:00] <wolf__> daaftykins: http://pastebin.com/9gBrZPnx thank you mate :)
[01:00] <Casey> how can  i use the mail command with sSMTP?
[01:02] <wolf__> daaftykins: http://pastebin.com/kc7GdCHa output in english if it can helps
[01:04] <daftykins> wolf__: well, i have to sleep... but if you look in there at every program it says is not configured, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>" and go through like that
[01:04] <daftykins> i would've thought my -a command would've done that, but apparently not
[01:05] <bilb_ono> so you know how you can add external deb sources like this: echo "deb https://<USERNAME>:<PASSWORD>@resource/ precise main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mct.list
[01:05] <wolf__> Well thank you for help and have a good night :)
[01:05] <bilb_ono> can you do the same thing with a local directory? like echo “deb file://some_dir/ precise main” …..
[01:05] <Twirl> hello, is there a way to speed up bug fixing?
[01:05] <bilb_ono> assuming that some_dir has the exact same thing that the http resource has?
[01:05] <daftykins> Twirl: yeah, you can fix the bug yourself
[01:06] <Twirl> daftykins: https://goo.gl/QUZMVn for real
[01:07] <n000b> i read ubuntu 15.10 comes with gnome 3.16 and can be ubgraded to 3.18. now nautilus is 3.14 and gedit even 3.10?!
[01:09] <n000b> Question being: at which version of ubuntu is it planed to deliver a consistent gnome desktop?
[01:09] <daftykins> unity *is* gnome
[01:11] <soupnanodesukar> >gnome
[01:11] <n000b> but all the programs are different versions of the offizial gnome DE. with consistent i mean can i have a full gnome 3.1x with all the official programs in THAT version?
[01:11] <soupnanodesukar> >consistent
[01:11] <soupnanodesukar> pick one
[01:11] <wolf__> daaftykins: solved :)
[01:11] <SchrodingersScat> !newest
[01:12] <n000b> even debian jessie can do it
[01:12] <n000b> and yes i can use a ppa to "solve" that, but every time? is that the official ubuntu policy? why not have 3.10 but then all programs in that version?
[01:12] <bazhang> n000b, did you mean gnome-shell or what
[01:12] <bilb_ono> to similfy. can deb repos be given as file:// resources as well as http/https?
[01:13] <bazhang> !info gnome-shell
[01:13] <n000b> bazhang: yes gnome-shell and all the primary ubuntu programs, like nautilus, gedit
[01:13] <daftykins> n000b: use another distro if you want standard gnome, i.e. get ubuntu gnome edition
[01:13] <Jordan_U> n000b: This channel is for support, not really for discussion of the future of Ubuntu. Please move non support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:14] <bazhang> n000b, later than the 3.16?
[01:14] <n000b> just all from one version, thats all i want
[01:16] <soupnanodesukar> do i have to ppa-purge the kubuntu backports before installing the new release, or does do-release-upgrade handle that automatically? I don't want obscure versions+dependencies of some stuff hanging around that's hard to remove after the fact.
[01:16] <bazhang> ppa are disabled at the start of that process
[01:16] <soupnanodesukar> ok thanks
[01:16] <Casey> anyone mind helpnig me with email alert script?
[01:17] <bazhang> chasing later ppa means contacting the ppa maintainers however, we cannot help with that
[01:17] <bazhang> try #bash Casey
[01:17] <frontserver> i need a free vpn
[01:17] <bazhang> frontserver, openvpn
[01:18] <n000b> !info gedit
[01:18] <n000b> !info nautilus
[01:18] <bazhang> !info openvpn
[01:18] <n000b> !info gnome-shell
[01:18] <frontserver> @ bazhang how to install do you have a link
[01:18] <bazhang> n000b, /msg ubottu please
[01:18] <Jordan_U> n000b: We get it. Please move further discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:18] <frontserver> most of the site has been block in china
[01:18] <usr13> n000b: Try xfce
[01:19] <bazhang> n000b, to check /msg ubottu info package
[01:19] <bazhang> n000b, thats for PM and wont hit us here doing support
[01:19] <frontserver> and is it possble to run windows office 2016 on ubuntu
[01:20] <bazhang> frontserver, sudo apt-get install openvpn
[01:20] <bazhang> check the appdb for that frontserver !appdb
[01:20] <wileee> frontserver, no, but you can open it's files.
[01:20] <frontserver> is it possible to run windows office 2016 on Ubuntu via wine @bazhang
[01:21] <tlt> you can run online ms office
[01:21] <bazhang>  /join #winehq for more frontserver
[01:21] <bazhang> !appdb | frontserver
[01:22] <bazhang> use that website to check frontserver
[01:22] <frontserver> thanks
[01:23] <n000b> so in wiley i cant have a full 3.16 experience then not even with the gnome3 ppa. do i really have to use gnome3-staging ppa then and jump to 3.18 to have most of the apps in one version?
[01:23] <bazhang> seems like thats the case n000b
[01:24] <n000b> erm ok thanks for confirming :-/
[01:24] <bazhang> welcome
[01:26] <bongo_the_clown> Need to install some packages on an offline U12.04 box.  Has anyone successfully used the apt-get offline install process?
[01:27] <bazhang> why not aptoncd bongo_the_clown
[01:27] <bazhang> or aptonusb in this case
[01:28] <bazhang> !aptoncd
[01:29] <bongo_the_clown> A few of the packages are hosted on a non-standard server (private company’s apt server) — is that still an option?
[01:30] <bazhang> can they be dld to a ubuntu vm bongo_the_clown
[01:31] <bazhang> bongo_the_clown, if you can get packages in the apt cache then its very doable
[01:35] <VFDPrim> evening all
[01:36] <Mamba_2> hi
[01:36] <kernelhack> hello
[01:36] <VFDPrim> wondering if there is a simple program so sketch stuff out on ubuntu im trying to draw out plans for a new desk and would like to be able to put in exact measuments and what not
[01:37] <bongo_the_clown> VFDPrim - try google sketchup
[01:37] <VFDPrim> is it an online aplication
[01:38] <VFDPrim> they dont have an option to download for ubuntu
[01:39] <VFDPrim> they should because they have a google earth option
[01:39] <bongo_the_clown> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-google-sketchup-ubuntu1404/
[01:39] <VFDPrim> thanks Bongo
[01:40] <bongo_the_clown> ugh — that uses wine…may not be too easy
[01:40] <VFDPrim> yea i have a few issues running programs in wine but i will give this a shot dont see any other way to do it with out using my vm
[01:45] <Starn> bongo_the_clown, know of anything open source?
[01:46] <roseysdad> can anyone help me with 15.10 server?
[01:46] <roseysdad> im getting a black screen.  no terminal window
[01:46] <roseysdad> after a sucessful install
[01:47] <Starn> i personally loved sketchup but the fact it wasn't open source made me sad.
[01:47] <bongo_the_clown> @Starn: unfortunately no, I used to use autocad, then when google released sketchup for free, I switched to that. But I’ve always used it on a windows / mac box.
[01:47] <Starn> bongo_the_clown, same here minus the mac :P
[01:47] <turnt> roseysdad, know of anything open source?
[01:48] <VFDPrim> i cant see where it down loaded to lol and i told it where to go lol
[01:48] <roseysdad> turnt what?
[01:48] <Starn> VFDPrim, google doesn't own it anymore. but it's still free. they have a website for it to download it. only way you can run it though if via wine.
[01:49] <bongo_the_clown> For photo editing, there’s a cool photoshop like webapp called: https://pixlr.com/web
[01:49] <bongo_the_clown> …but not for eng drawings...
[01:49] <turnt> roseysdad, can you do a ctrl-alt-f2, does that do anything (sorry im using a new irc client)
[01:49] <VFDPrim> oh ok yea im just trying to find the file at the moment to open in wine
[01:50] <roseysdad> turnt .... yes!
[01:51] <roseysdad> any idea what I can change to make that do that perminantely?
[01:51] <bongo_the_clown> @bazhang, you thinking I should do this, and host the apt-cache server on my local box?
[01:51] <bongo_the_clown> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[01:51] <turnt> roseysdad: can you login ok from there?
[01:53] <roseysdad> yes sir
[01:53] <turnt> roseysdad: press ctrl-alt-f1 through f7 and find out which one is only giving you a black screen
[01:53] <g0twig> where can I test the unity 8 preview
[01:54] <bazhang> !info unity8
[01:54] <roseysdad> looks like f7
[01:56] <turnt> roseysdad: I don't have server installed on any machines but on most distros tty7 (f7) is where your gui session is at. by any chance did you try to install a graphical component (such as a display manager?)
[01:57] <VFDPrim> ohh so evedentaly i needed to chainge wine from xp to 7 makes sense i never really did anything in wine just put a program in and it worked lol now to see if i can get it wo open sketchup
[01:57] <Bashing-om> roseysdad: FGLRX graphic's driver ?
[01:57] <g0twig> bazhang: ok
[01:57] <g0twig> Bashing-om: why does no one talk about it
[01:57] <g0twig> ubuntu 15.10 is probably the weakest ubuntu release in history
[01:57] <roseysdad> no, no display manager at all
[01:58] <bazhang> g0twig, thats not the proper venue for complaints
[01:58] <bazhang> g0twig, file a wishlist bug or join the offtopic channel
[01:58] <g0twig> ok
[01:59] <Bashing-om> roseysdad: Maybe take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see what X is up to ?
[02:00] <archStanton> does anyone know if there is a wireshark irc?
[02:00] <bazhang> use alis to search archStanton
[02:00] <bazhang> !alis | archStanton
[02:00] <hamburgertime> #wireshark
[02:00] <roseysdad> there is no Xorg.log
[02:01] <lkthomas> what exactly does ufw application policy use for ?!
[02:01] <munsking> please tell me it's possible to fix "accidentally deleting /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1" ...
[02:01] <kostkon> !find libselinux.so.1
[02:01] <archStanton> Maybye I typed it in wrong... didnt see it...  But ill try alis as well
[02:01] <archStanton> Ever heard of it... I am somewhat new to irc
[02:02] <munsking> kostkon: it's probably in the linux package
[02:02] <roseysdad> i turned off no splash or quite mode or whatever in the grub config and that fixed it.  thank you
[02:02] <Bashing-om> roseysdad: (?) Never encountered a situation of no Xorg.0.log . I have no clue what to advise .
[02:02] <VFDPrim> HMMM odd it wont come up for me when i tell it to open... do i need to com restart?
[02:02] <turnt> Bashing-om: he's using ubuntu server
[02:03] <roseysdad> im on ubuntu server
[02:03] <roseysdad> there is no gui installed
[02:03] <kostkon> munsking, you could try reinstalling the package that contains it: libselinux1
[02:03] <Bashing-om> turnt: :) No X ! Now that do explain .
[02:03] <turnt> roseysdad: Glad it worked! I'm not sure why splash needed to be disabled tho :/
[02:04] <munsking> kostkon: i can't use sudo anymore though...
[02:04] <munsking> i think i'm fucked :/
[02:04] <munsking> it's a remote server as well, no physical access
[02:04] <turnt> munsking: why can't you use sudo?
[02:04] <munsking> sudo: error while loading shared libraries: guess which one
[02:06] <kostkon> munsking, get the pacakge from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/libselinux1 (if not utopic, pick your version) extract it, boot into recovery mode, or on a livecd session, then place the missing file into the right folder
[02:07] <asarch> Besides libvirt which other program can I use to manager virtualisation based on kvm?
[02:07] <munsking> kostkon: i wish i could do that, but like i said, no physical access :(
[02:07] <VFDPrim> how do i remove sketch up from wine and my computer?
[02:07] <kostkon> munsking, right
[02:09] <VFDPrim> never mind my last q love google
[02:09] <munsking> VFDPrim: how did you install it?
[02:09] <munsking> VFDPrim: lol ok
[02:10] <VFDPrim> just like that page said but im going to retry again real fast
[02:10] <munsking> hmm, how do i log in as root when "su -" doesn't work? and neither does sudo?
[02:11] <munsking> VFDPrim: what page? i installed it using playonlinux (on arch though, but it works fine) and that's easy to remove, just remove 1 folder
[02:12] <Jordan_U> munsking: Use busybox for everything.
[02:12] <munsking> Jordan_U: what's busybox?
[02:13] <Jordan_U> munsking: A minimal set of *NIX utilities (think ls, grep, chmod) that is completely statically linked.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> munsking: Though I don't think it will help you get root access, it will allow you to use many useful commands as whatever user(s) you happen to be currently logged in as.
[02:14] <lin> hello
[02:14] <munsking> Jordan_U: not sure that would've helped in my case, i was trying to create a chroot jail for ssh users, but i must've mistyped something and somehow deleted libselinux :(
[02:14] <iwjej> hello, where do i find the folder for the keys in new file manager (earlier it was under home folder, and named gnupg)
[02:14] <iwjej> ?
[02:14] <GAV> I have a folder inside of my home folder that I want to give a user access to. I've made that user the owner (user and group) of that folder, and it and all of it's subdirectories are set to 744, but when I try to cd to the folder as another user, I get "permission denied"
[02:15] <Jordan_U> munsking: Do you have a root shell open?
[02:15] <munsking> Jordan_U: no sadly i don't...
[02:16] <munsking> and sudo errors out, so does su
[02:16] <munsking> i found a copy of the library on the machine
[02:16] <munsking> but i can't copy it now
[02:17] <dagerik> package php5-ssh2 do not exists in 14.04. what can i do
[02:17] <nameuser_> Does ubuntu auto mark bad sectors on encounter?
[02:18] <somsip> dagerik: use PECL by the look of it
[02:19] <somsip> dagerik: oh wait: http://www.codexpedia.com/apache-server/install-phps-ssh2-extension-on-ubuntu-and-mac/
[02:19] <Jordan_U> munsking: Do you have pkexec?
[02:19] <dagerik> somsip: thanks. how about php5-zmq?
[02:19] <munsking> Jordan_U: never used it, but it is installed
[02:20] <VFDPrim> so forgot to add the riched20 to win so now deleating sketch up for a second time to re download and try for the last time lol
[02:20] <somsip> dagerik: I don't want to appear unhelpful, but have you tried researching it yourself at all?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> munsking: Try "pkexec bash" and if that fails try "pkexec busybox sh".
[02:20] <Jordan_U> munsking: I still expect both to fail, but it's worth a try.
[02:21] <munsking> Jordan_U: thanks for the effort, but i'm afraid everything relies on that lib that nothing's working anymore... i'll just have to contact the server admin tomorrow (well, in a few hours, it's half past 4 in the morning here)
[02:21] <GAV> I want My user to be able to access this directory, but I can't seem to be able to get them able to do it.
[02:22] <munsking> i knew i should've tried it on my local ubuntu machine first, but nooooo, let's be hardcore and do it on a live server right away
[02:22] <Jordan_U> munsking: Note that any processes currently running will still be able to use that library.
[02:22] <XIX> GAV, I think you need 755 permissions to read and cd into a directory
[02:22] <GAV> Ohhhh
[02:23] <GAV> Even if you own it?
[02:23] <munsking> Jordan_U: OMG you just remembered me that i have a screen running
[02:24] <munsking> ...shit, they aren't able to
[02:24] <GAV> XIX: Nup, I'm getting the same issue. It even happens if I temporarily set them to 777
[02:25] <VFDPrim> ok i give up my conmp does not like sketch up llol
[02:26] <munsking> VFDPrim: did you try the playonlinux thing?
[02:26] <VFDPrim> no i have even harder time with that then i do wine
[02:27] <munsking> VFDPrim: it's worth a shot though, it worked flawlessly for me, didn't even have to edit anything
[02:27] <iwjej> hello, where do i find the folder for the keys in new file manager (earlier it was under home folder, and named gnupg)
[02:28] <tlt> it's .gnupg not gnupg
[02:28] <VFDPrim> @ munsking im not even sure how to try that lol
[02:28] <munsking> VFDPrim: just install "playonlinux" (i assume it's in the ubuntu repos as well)
[02:29] <munsking> and once it's installed, run "playonlinux" in there, click "install" and then search for the program you want, it should do everything for you
[02:29] <XIX> GAV: Damn. I've noticed that folders in ntfs partitions won't accept chmod but in this case, I'm not too sure.. :\
[02:29] <VFDPrim> i think its on my comp but first how do i remove sketchup from my programs i removed it from wine but i can still search for it under my programs
[02:29] <GAV> XIX: Yeah, this is on an Ubuntu server with ext4
[02:30] <munsking> VFDPrim: don't know about that, sorry, i don't use ubuntu on my desktop
[02:30] <TechnoCrunch> Hi
[02:30] <Jordan_U> munsking: Do you have a root password set? (You shouldn't)
[02:30] <TechnoCrunch> Is anyone using ubuntu on a macbook?
[02:30] <munsking> Jordan_U: i didn't set it, but yea, there is one
[02:31] <Jordan_U> TechnoCrunch: Such questions don't really get you anywhere. Please just ask your question, and if anyone thinks they can help, they will.
[02:31] <Jordan_U> munsking: Can you log in as root via ssh?
[02:31] <munsking> Jordan_U: i can't start a new ssh session
[02:31] <munsking> i assume it's missing that lib xD
[02:31] <TechnoCrunch> Well I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a usb on a Macbook Pro Mid 2009 but it just hangs at the boot screen with the 5 dots forever. Any help would be lovely. :)
[02:32] <VFDPrim> bravo2144
[02:32] <Jordan_U> munsking: As a test, try "ssh root@host /bin/static-sh".
[02:32] <VFDPrim> woops lol
[02:32] <wileee> Technobliterator, shift or esc should show text after boot
[02:32] <munsking> TechnoCrunch: are you sure your install media isn't corrupted or anything? maybe try it with another distro? (arch FTW)
[02:32] <VFDPrim> friend of mine forgot her code for her linux machine for updates lol
[02:32] <Jordan_U> munsking: And just for more info, does running "bash" (whithout sudo / su / anything else) give you errors about the missing so?
[02:33] <TechnoCrunch> Tried arch
[02:33] <munsking> Jordan_U: i'll try it from one of the screens, 1 sec
[02:33] <TechnoCrunch> Just Kernel panics
[02:33] <TechnoCrunch> Will try the shift/esc thing wileee
[02:34] <munsking> Jordan_U: same error for both, error while loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[02:34] <mati> ekoparty
[02:34] <mati> ?
[02:34] <wileee> Technobliterator, After grub menu or so, I assume you get there in a mac.
[02:34] <mati> hi
[02:34] <mati> anyone
[02:35] <munsking> hi mati, if you have a question, just ask :P
[02:35] <wileee> mati, Support here, chat in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <TechnoCrunch> ok wilee pressed esc and the grub cli appears
[02:35] <wileee> Technobliterator, like grub>
[02:36] <wileee> ?
[02:36] <TechnoCrunch> Yes
[02:36] <wileee> Technobliterator, Cool, not sure myself, but others wilol know.
[02:36] <wileee> will*
[02:36] <munsking> Jordan_U: thanks again for all the help, pity we couldn't figure something out, i'm just gonna go to bed now, hope the actual admin can fix it (and won't be too angry with me)
[02:36] <VFDPrim> going to try playonlinux for sketchup
[02:37] <Jordan_U> munsking: And to be clear, your ssh client is on another host, correct?
[02:37] <TechnoCrunch> So what do I do now wilee (I'm very new to linux)
[02:37] <TechnoCrunch> wileee*
[02:37] <minitrue> hi, anyone has a free dynamic dns to recommend?
[02:37] <dagerik> somehow /usr/share/nginx/html/index.html is being served even if I change the nginx config and restart it
[02:38] <munsking> Jordan_U: i'm at home, using my archlinux machine, i am logged in to a ubuntu server somewhere i can't access, over ssh
[02:38] <wileee> TechnoCrunch, We know a little more now, lots of help here, if someones knows they will probably answer, crack a cold one. ;)
[02:38] <Jordan_U> munsking: Yes, but when you tried to ssh in as root, you ran the ssh command from your archlinux machine, not from the screen session or similiar. Correct?
[02:39] <munsking> Jordan_U: and that ubu server is borked, the arch machine is fine (as far as arch can be fine lol)
[02:39] <munsking> Jordan_U: i did both, neither worked
[02:39] <Jordan_U> munsking: If you have an rsync server running, you might try copying the file over with that.
[02:39] <wileee> Technobliterator, Not sure if the issue here but we often start with checking the sums of the iso and install media.
[02:40] <TechnoCrunch> How would I do that?
[02:40] <wileee> !md5sum Technobliterator
[02:40] <munsking> Jordan_U: sadly i don't, there's no root ssh connection running, only a webserver that's constantly on, and i doubt it has access to /lib
[02:40] <munsking> i'll give it a shot in a minute
[02:40] <wileee> !md5sum | Technobliterator
[02:40] <Segi_> how do i mount an ntfs partition
[02:40] <TechnoCrunch> Thanks ubottu
[02:41] <devslash2> I have ntfs-3g installed but i cant write an ntfs partition
[02:41] <usr13> TechnoCrunch: We should do that on any image we download, (before burning to CD or USB)
[02:41] <wileee> Technobliterator, good info to have for a helper whom is familiar in this.
[02:41] <devslash2> err i cant mount an ntfs partition
[02:41] <usr13> devslash2: What's the problem?
[02:42] <devslash2> im not able to mount an ntfs parititon
[02:42] <usr13> devslash2: Did you restart nfsd after creating the share?
[02:42] <devslash2> im not using a share
[02:43] <usr13> devslash2: Oh sorry.  ntfs
[02:43] <devslash2> ntfsd
[02:43] <devslash2> ?
[02:43] <devslash2> theres no such service
[02:43] <usr13> devslash2: So what error do you get?
[02:44] <devslash2> he device '/dev/sda1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[02:44] <devslash2> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[02:44] <devslash2> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[02:44] <usr13> devslash2: what is the mount point for it?
[02:44] <usr13> devslash2: (Show us the command)
[02:44] <devslash2> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[02:45] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[02:45] <TechnoCrunch> Just did the MD5 sum check
[02:45] <TechnoCrunch> they are both the same
[02:45] <usr13> devslash2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:46] <devslash2> theres no mention of sda in the output of blkid
[02:46] <devslash2> sda1
[02:46] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Please pastebin the complete output anyway.
[02:46] <devslash2> its not relevant
[02:46] <devslash2> my other partitions are listed there
[02:46] <usr13> devslash2: So what do you see in the System collumn?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> devslash2: try as ' mount -t ntfs ' .
[02:47] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Also the output of "sudo parted -l".
[02:47] <usr13> devslash2: Or just mount
[02:47] <devslash2> no go
[02:47] <usr13> devslash2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit
[02:48] <usr13> devslash2: Let us take a look.
[02:48] <devslash2> http://pastebin.com/z7YrspYR
[02:49] <dagerik> service nginx restart succeeds even when there is an error in config.
[02:49] <TechnoCrunch> wileee, what should I do in the event that the md5 sum is check and is right
[02:49] <usr13> devslash2: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[02:49] <devslash2> doesnt work
[02:49] <usr13> devslash2: What does it say?
[02:49] <BlueProtoman> Is there a way I can make Nautilus' "Open in Terminal" context menu command open guake instead of Ubuntu's default terminal?
[02:50] <devslash2> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[02:50] <devslash2>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[02:50] <devslash2>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:50] <devslash2>        dmesg | tail or so.
[02:50] <munsking> Jordan_U: i just tried to copy the file using php, but it doesn't have the permissions for it (makes sense, but would be nice)
[02:50] <Jordan_U> devslash2: How do you know that it's ntfs? Could it possibly be exFAT?
[02:51] <devslash2> its ntfs
[02:51] <usr13> devslash2: Do you have fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[02:51] <usr13> ?
[02:51] <devslash2> its a windows 8 system
[02:51] <devslash2> dunno lemme check
[02:51] <usr13> Jordan_U: Yes it is.
[02:51] <devslash2> fdisk -l show it as ntfs
[02:51] <usr13> devslash2: sudo apt-get install fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[02:52] <EMPHASIS> Hi, what's a good app to extract text from a PDF, please?
[02:52] <wileee> TechnoCrunch, It is info that helps, you have to have patience. Channel suggests ten min intervals to repost, include the info we found, the sum and wht grub shows.
[02:53] <XIX> devslash2: If it's a dual-boot system, Windows might not have unmounted the drive cleanly. When I have similar problems, I boot into Windows and then restart back into Linux, just in case. Otherwise, "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1" might help.
[02:53] <devslash2> still no go
[02:53] <Jordan_U> devslash2: fdisk doesn't know anything about filesystems, only partition tables. A partition with that type will commonly contain an exFAT filesystem (hence why exFAT is listed as a possiblity by fdisk) and any filesystem can be used on any partition, partition ids are sort of poor hints as to what a partition might contain.
[02:53] <devslash2> its not exfat
[02:53] <usr13> devslash2: What command did you use4?
[02:54] <devslash2>  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows/
[02:54] <usr13> devslash2: yes it is.  Did you install fuse-exfat and exfat-utils
[02:54] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Are you able to mount this filesystem from within Windows?
[02:54] <devslash2> yes windows boots just ifne
[02:54] <usr13> Jordan_U: Did you see http://pastebin.com/z7YrspYR ?
[02:54] <Jordan_U> usr13: Yes.
[02:55] <devslash2> I thought mounting ntfs was easy
[02:55] <usr13> devslash2: It is
[02:55] <devslash2> not if it takes over an hour
[02:57] <EMPHASIS> a good app to extract text from a PDF, please?
[02:57] <dagerik> service nginx start exits with a newline. but service nginx status says it's no running. help
[02:58] <devslash2> i give up
[02:58] <wastrel> EMPHASIS: pdftotext
[02:58] <function9x> hi guys, I'm google chrome that's in the repos, I'm getting segfaults, where can I report this?
[02:58] <function9x> i'm using rather
[02:58] <usr13> devslash2:  Did you install fuse-exfat and exfat-utils
[02:58] <devslash2> yes
[02:58] <EMPHASIS> :wastrel: Thank-you!
[02:59] <devslash2> fuse-exfat doesnt exist
[03:00] <usr13> devslash2: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat
[03:01] <usr13> devslash2: Did that work?  If so:  sudo apt-get update
[03:01] <[n0mad]> i'm confused, is your only issue you can't access a win8+ partition from ubuntu?
[03:01] <devslash2> yes
[03:01] <devslash2> it wont monut
[03:01] <devslash2> it wont mount
[03:01] <[n0mad]> have you disabled fast-boot?
[03:02] <[n0mad]> in windows
[03:02] <usr13> devslash2: sudo apt-get install fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[03:02] <devslash2> no
[03:02] <devslash2> ex-fat doent exist
[03:02] <devslash2> fuse-exfat doent exist
[03:02] <[n0mad]> unless you shutdown windows, you'll never mount it if fast-boot is enabled
[03:02] <devslash2> i did
[03:02] <[n0mad]> reboot won't work
[03:02] <devslash2> thats not the issue
[03:02] <[n0mad]> ok
[03:02] <[n0mad]> that sucks then
[03:02] <devslash2> i did a full dhutdown
[03:02] <devslash2> i did a full shutdown
[03:02] <smokeless> devslash2: apt-get install exf<press tab a bunch here>
[03:03] <[n0mad]> sorry, i'll shutup
[03:03] <usr13>  !info exfat-utils | devslash2
[03:04] <devslash2> why do i need that
[03:04] <devslash2> i dont have any exfat partitions
[03:04] <devslash2> exfat != ntfs
[03:05] <usr13> devslash2: Did you do:  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat
[03:05] <devslash2> yes
[03:05] <devslash2> but why do i need that
[03:05] <usr13> devslash2: Did you do:  sudo apt-get update
[03:05] <usr13> ?
[03:06] <devslash2> why do i need that
[03:06] <UserUS> it updates your repositories
[03:06] <devslash2> i dont have a single exfat partition
[03:06] <devslash2> why do i need an exfat driver for an ntfs partition
[03:06] <devslash2> exfat and ntfs are 2 different file systems
[03:06] <usr13> devslash2: Ok, then.  I don't know why you can't mount your partition.  I give up.
[03:07] <devslash2> i do too
[03:07] <devslash2> ubuntu sucks
[03:07] <usr13> You can lead a horse to water, but just don't forget what a wet horse smells like.
[03:07] <devslash2> ive never had this problem before and have used many other distros
[03:07] <usr13> devslash2: We are glad you like it.
[03:08] <UserUS> your trying to mount which filesystem?
[03:08] <devslash2> ntfs
[03:08] <devslash2> it just wont mount
[03:08] <UserUS> dual booting?
[03:08] <devslash2> yes
[03:08] <devslash2> sorta
[03:08] <usr13> UserUS: http://pastebin.com/z7YrspYR
[03:08] <devslash2> separate hard drives for linux and windows
[03:09] <devslash2> i gues si have no choice but to reboot when i need to get a file from my windows partition
[03:09] <devslash2> since ubuntu refuses to mount it
[03:09] <usr13> devslash2: Not true.
[03:09] <devslash2> it is
[03:09] <devslash2> i installed an ntfs driver
[03:09] <devslash2> it just wont mount
[03:09] <TechnoCrunch> GG I have no vmlinuz file
[03:09] <usr13> devslash2: Ok. have it your way.
[03:09] <UserUS> disks shoud let you mount, and edit the filesystem partitions individually. You'll need to be booted into an fd to do so though
[03:09] <azizLIGHT> is there google cloud print within ubuntu 14.04 or must i get ppa and 3rd party
[03:10] <UserUS> devslash2: or try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt system
[03:11] <UserUS> devslash2: edit: dont include the system tag
[03:13] <UserUS> azizLIGHT: can you print from any other application
[03:18] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Please pastebin the output of "sudo grub-mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/".
[03:19] <XIX> devslash2: Is the partition table MBR or GPT ?
[03:20] <azizLIGHT> usr13: how do i print to my google cloud printer
[03:20] <azizLIGHT> from ubuntu
[03:20] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: ^^
[03:20] <usr13> azizLIGHT: I don't know.
[03:21] <azizLIGHT> usr13: sorry i tabbed wrong
[03:21] <UserUS> Got disconnected for a minute, cant see what you said before from ubuntu
[03:21] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: i dont have any printers in ubuntu besides 'print to file'
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: but i have a google cloud ready printer that can receive files to print over wifi
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> id like to print from ubuntu to it
[03:22] <UserUS> Go to system settings and choose add printer
[03:23] <devslash2> Jordan_U,  thanks but im just gonna have to reboot to windows when i need it
[03:25] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: which one do i choose from here: http://i.imgur.com/nuz28WK.png or http://i.imgur.com/ZMOABts.png
[03:31] <UserUS> azizLIGHT: well the first option will attempt to send it to the printer via usb, the second sends it via DNS from the router. And there are 3 options, but if it's your home network I'd either pick the first one to send it to the router which will send it to the pprinter, or the second which will send a wifi direct print
[03:37] <dagerik> what must i do do use nginx rmtp module?
[03:38] <dagerik> is it compiled with it?
[03:54] <SchrodingersScat> dagerik: neat!
[03:56] <SchrodingersScat> dagerik: 15.10 nginx does not seem to have this
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> dagerik: https://github.com/arut/nginx-rtmp-module
[04:02] <RainMan28> I am trying to use cron to stop and start a service at certain times. I am trying to use the command /usr/sbin/service servicename stop in crontab, and I get the error: myservice: unrecognized service
[04:05] <usr13> RainMan28: Try it in a terminal
[04:05] <usr13> RainMan28: Test the commands
[04:06] <RainMan28> usr13: yep, works in terminal with that command, so does: service servicename stop
[04:07] <ganeshaditya1> Hey! Previously I had gnome ubuntu installed on my laptop and I didn't like it so I installed unity by doing a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. The problem is that I am not able to make compiz the default window manager so my laptop currently looks like the ugly love child of unity and gnome!
[04:07] <ganeshaditya1> I tried compiz --replace but it throws like gazzilion errors!
[04:07] <usr13> RainMan28: I don't know then...
[04:08] <RainMan28> usr13: ah ok, thanks anyways
[04:09] <UserUS> ganeshaditya1: why not?
[04:09] <fallkin> i just got ubuntu but i am happy with it. it allows me to go on the internet and access my files easily cant complain
[04:09] <wileee> ganeshaditya1, If you can choose unity at login and get the whole desktop compiz is running.
[04:09] <fallkin> this chat thing is cool too
[04:09] <fallkin> if i could figure it out
[04:09] <SchrodingersScat> fallkin: you're doing it now, live!
[04:10] <fallkin> lol
[04:10] <fallkin> why do my words show up grey
[04:10] <wileee> ganeshaditya1, So, did you install the gnome fallback and used compiz there?
[04:10] <fallkin> do i need to register my name on this server
[04:11] <ganeshaditya1_> wileee no, do I need to install gnome fallback?
[04:11] <goddard> fallkin: its your client that displays things
[04:11] <fallkin> so i need to register my client
[04:11] <wileee> ganeshaditya1_, no, just questions, trying to understand.
[04:15] <wileee> fallkin, there's no place to register the client, you would tweak it for colors.
[04:15] <fallkin> ok thanks for the answer
[04:15] <fallkin> what is the most popular chat network in here
[04:16] <wileee> fallkin, Registering on freenode has some advantages however.
[04:16] <plumplump> Hello.  I've got ubuntu 15.04 installed on a spinning-platter drive, and I wanted to clone the installation to this SSD I just got.  Is it best to do a fresh install in this case?
[04:16] <UserUS> all of irc or freenode
[04:16] <RainMan28> I am trying to use cron to stop and start a service at certain times. I am trying to use the command /usr/sbin/service servicename stop in crontab, and I get the error: myservice: unrecognized service
[04:16] <LambdaComplex> plumplump: rsync could work
[04:16] <wileee> plumplump, fresh is no better, unless it is for you.
[04:17] <LambdaComplex> plumplump: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_system_backup_with_rsync#With_a_single_command
[04:17] <fallkin> registered
[04:17] <wileee> plumplump, I would clone it myself if doable in size, time...etc.
[04:17] <plumplump> wilee, LambdaComplex ok thx I guess I was wondering if there are any SSD-specific system settings
[04:18] <plumplump> I will do the rsync clone, thx L)
[04:18] <wileee> plumplump, Not really, everything is built in, but one can tweak at their leisure.
[04:19] <wileee> I like my SSD, makes my old toshiba run nicely
[04:22] <plumplump> just replacing the 5400rpm drive in this old beater
[04:39] <mechanicalmayhem> What up Ubuntu!
[04:39] <mechanicalmayhem> lol
[04:45] <ItsMeLenny> hello! i've just installed ubuntu 15.10 (very fast to boot =D), i've forgotten how to disable the nouveau drivers, and ive googled it, and added all the things to modprobe and they still dont disable
[04:47] <ItsMeLenny> or does my blacklist file need to begin with the word blacklist?
[04:49] <shortstraw8> blacklist should be there yes
[04:50] <shortstraw8> blacklist nouveau
[04:50] <shortstraw8> Like that
[04:51] <DennyDai> hi
[04:54] <lns> Ey buenas noches¡
[05:07] <tawan> AIM - allow my wife on her iPad to watch movies stored on my Ubuntu laptop ... Solutions - ??
[05:11] <r2me2> I am not sure if there are ipad DLNA apps
[05:11] <r2me2> but if there are, you could run minidlna
[05:12] <systemd0wn> Question: I was in the middle of upgrading to 15.10 and no kidding the power died. So booting the new kernel panicked, booting old kernel works but now if I try to run dist-upgrade it sees the lock and won't let me.
[05:12] <r2me2> I use plex
[05:12] <somsip> tawan: Remote Files Free and Samba will work, but this is offtopic so I'll say no more
[05:13] <systemd0wn> So I guess the question is what the heck do I do? Just delete the lock file and try again?
[05:13] <tawan> somsip, Offtopic really? Surely I'm running Samba on Ubuntu or you think I should look for #Samba or similar?
[05:13] <somsip> tawan: you can ask how to set up samba here. Discussions about iOS apps would be OT
[05:15] <r2me2> Are there any known issues with vino-server sessions being read only in 14.04 LTS?
[05:17] <r2me2> When connecting with remmina tunneled through SSH from 14.04 to 14.04, the screen is viewable, and can see the mouse cursor, but the session doesn't accept mouse or keyboard input. Anyone have any experience with this configuration?
[05:18] <toeshred> is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10? i tried `sudo do-release-upgrade` but it tells me there is no new release found.
[05:21] <somsip> toeshred: LTS will only upgrade to LTS using do-release-upgrade IIRC
[05:21] <toeshred> somsip: ah i see. i heard of people going from 14.04 to 14.10 in the past though.
[05:22] <somsip> toeshred: probably using some other method
[05:22] <somsip> toeshred: eg (could be unsafe - no idea): http://blog.zloether.com/2010/02/upgrade-ubuntu-lts-release-to-non-lts.html
[05:23] <smokeless> what's current LTS?
[05:23] <somsip> smokeless: 14.04
[05:24] <rww> !upgradeofflts | toeshred
[05:25] <toeshred> ah ty rww
[05:25] <rww> which appears to be pretty much what that blog entries does. should be fine.
[05:27] <toeshred> rww: yep that did the trick.
[05:29] <it_> Hi. I am participating in a class I don't really meet the requirements to 100% .. The teacher told me I should be fine though. We are using an Image of his virtual machine and we will program on a board he supplied us. I am having trouble setting it up though.. Yes, I could ask the teacher, he isn't here though and an email will take time to get answered..
[05:29] <somsip> it_: is there a question in there?
[05:29] <it_> Not yet, still typing
[05:29] <somsip> it_: make it to the point then. eh?
[05:31] <it_> It says the best network setup is a separate physical connection between the workstation and the board. The instructions we've got assume the interface eth1 and the private address range <IP_ADDRESS>/24. I am not quite sure what that means but I have added a "Network Adapter" in VMWare Player. I am not sure if I need to configure something more in VMWare though... (There's more following after this)
[05:32] <it_> Oh and we should check that the subnet does not conflict with the normal network setup (eth0)
[05:32] <smokeless> it_ so you're configuring a secondary eth interface on your network?
[05:33] <it_> Yes.. Just keep in mind I basically don't have much clue about this ... The class recommends having had a class on telematics, which I will have in 1 year .. :c
[05:33] <smokeless> it_ your subnet mask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:34] <smokeless> it_ is what the /24 means
[05:34] <it_> Yes that's what I could find out from the next instructions, though I'm not sure how that's what it means?
[05:34] <UserUS> 4 subnets
[05:34] <UserUS> 6 sorry
[05:34] <it_> I mean I can imagine 24 being the first 24 bits set..., but how would you differ any sequence like 0101? (If that's even valid..)
[05:35] <UserUS> convert the binary to decimanl
[05:35] <it_> and add up?
[05:36] <smokeless> it_: or just check an octet chart thing.
[05:38] <it_> Not too clear yet.. I might have to read this up somewhere..
[05:38] <UserUS> It_:  http://www.binaryhexconverter.com/binary-to-decimal-converter
[05:39] <it_> Well yes, but I'm not too sure what to convert?
[05:39] <it_> I don't see how <IP_ADDRESS> -> 24
[05:39] <UserUS> if you go for the comptia you should :P
[05:39] <UserUS> thatts the mask
[05:39] <UserUS> default.default.default.0-255
[05:40] <it_> Btw before you spend more time, you realize I don't really know what a subnet exactly is/what it's used for?
[05:40] <smokeless> it_:http://jodies.de/ipcalc
[05:41] <smokeless> it_: each portion of an IP address is 8 bits.
[05:41] <smokeless> it_: so /24 indicates 24 bits on. From left to right. For your subnet.
[05:41] <UserUS> yes
[05:42] <UserUS> 24 addresses
[05:42] <it_> So I suppose a subnet <IP_ADDRESS> is considered invalid?
[05:42] <UserUS> .1 - 24
[05:42] <UserUS> As far as I am aware yes
[05:42] <it_> And are numbers other than 0 and 255 allowed?
[05:42] <UserUS> no, and 255 is reserved typically
[05:42] <it_> I see
[05:42] <UserUS> it says 255 but it means 254
[05:43] <UserUS> 255 is usually reserved for a router or important item
[05:43] <it_> So the number can only be ( 0, 8, 16, 24, 32 ) ?
[05:43] <r2me2> it_:  you are going down the rabbit hole. Your prof is just telling you that for his instructions to work, your VM needs to be configured on 192.168.2.x
[05:43] <toeshred> just got a dpkg error during a 14.04 -> 14.10 upgrade, and now it is reverting the entire upgrade process.
[05:43] <smokeless> it_: r2me2 is correct.
[05:44] <r2me2> likely because the hardware you are connecting to is going to be on the same subnet
[05:44] <r2me2> so your vm will be able to talk to it
[05:44] <toeshred> after a failed upgrade, now it is telling me there is no such command as reboot... i think the OS was hosed.
[05:44] <r2me2> so if the hw you are connecting to is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:45] <smokeless> toeshred did you try shutdown -t: now
[05:45] <UserUS> its on subnet 2 machine 10
[05:45] <r2me2> then just set your VM interface to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:45] <r2me2> and pick a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:45] <toeshred> smokeless: i just chose to shutdown using the GUI
[05:46] <smokeless> toeshred: try it with terminal, probably need to sudo
[05:46] <toeshred> no shutdown command either
[05:47] <UserUS> sudo shutdown now
[05:47] <smokeless> toeshred you used sudo?
[05:47] <devslash2> i need help. ive had a problem just start tonight where when i boot ubuntu, both my displays dont work. ive obviously checked the hdmi cable and moved it to a different slot. i can also boot windows on the same pc and it works fine so its something in ubuntu
[05:47] <toeshred> yeah using sudo... there is no reboot or shutdown command. since this was after attempting a do-release-upgrade on 14.04, i am thinking the upgrade broke my system.
[05:48] <UserUS> toeshred: Ivedone 3 updates broke every one
[05:48] <smokeless> toeshred apt-get fix?
[05:49] <UserUS> devsplash2: the forums and wiki will say it's your drivers...try rebooting, with the hdmi plugged in
[05:50] <toeshred> trying an apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[05:50] <toeshred> seems to be installing a bunch of packages that i thought i should have had, like xorg-server.
[05:50] <toeshred> well thats the last time i ever try upgrading an lts.
[05:51] <it_> Well the teacher gave us the commands to set up things. But since I didn't have an interface eth1, I simply added a "Network Adapter" in VMWare Player and set it to "Host-only", not even sure that's the right setting. We were told to use "ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>" to configure the adapter.
[05:52] <it_> It's recommended to add it to /etc/network/interfaces to automate this. So the teacher gave us following settings: http://pastebin.com/g4xrc4rP.
[05:52] <NeoFrontier> Greetings. Is there a way to hide the top status bar like you can with the side one ?
[05:52] <Ben64> toeshred: by default 14.04 won't upgrade until 16.04 comes out, 14.10 is already EOL
[05:53] <r2me2> it_: by using the terminal, your prof has given you the command to create an interface with <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:55] <r2me2> it_: the pastebin is essentially showing you what you need to put in /etc/nw/interfaces so that it starts at boot
[05:56] <it_> Then comes something I don't understand at all, so I will simply paste it here if you allow me .. http://pastebin.com/9jFkPXcb
[05:56] <r2me2> it_: are you using the terminal?
[05:57] <it_> Uhm, the shell? Yes
[05:57] <r2me2> it_:
[05:58] <smokeless> it_: doesn't the vm software already handle NAT?
[05:58] <smokeless> it_: nm
[05:58] <r2me2> the second paste is configuring firewall rules to send stuff to the internet
[05:58] <it_> Idk .. :c
[05:58] <UserUS> typcially you have to turn it on or off
[05:58] <it_> I have two network adapters in vmware, one is set to NAT and the second to "Host-only"
[05:59] <it_> The second one is the one I added, not sure if host-only is the good setting though
[05:59] <Ben64> it_: seems more like you want ##networking than #ubuntu
[05:59] <UserUS> you;d need to use a static nat then
[05:59] <r2me2> it_: paste up what from the terminal: ifconfig
[06:00] <it_> Anyway my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like the following ... (paste following), when I restart the virtual machine, I receive the message about network configuration and that it's waiting up to 60 more seconds for it.. When the machine starts up, I only have the loopback interface :C
[06:00] <r2me2> I would say remove the Host only
[06:00] <r2me2> and add per your instructions
[06:00] <it_> Remove the network adapter in vmware? Or just the host-only? What would I set it to? (I have NAT, bridged and host-only. Bridged does not seem to work with our school wifi setup)
[06:01] <r2me2> it_:
[06:01] <r2me2> post up tour /etc/network/interfaces
[06:02] <r2me2> I am not that familiar with vmware
[06:02] <it_> This is the /etc/network/interfaces which makes no interfaces but lo show up: http://pastebin.com/QvPtQLbJ
[06:02] <nabeen> hi. i did a `chsh` command to change my shell to tmux from zsh. Now, the terminal fails to open. How can i reset the default shell without using the command line?
[06:03] <it_> Currently I have the "new lines" I've added commented out, the output of ifconfig looks like this: http://pastebin.com/VbRJU6vD
[06:03] <it_> (The output of ifconfig with the lines commented out, not when they are uncommented)
[06:04] <Ben64> it_: what are you trying to accomplish
[06:05] <it_> Connect some board from school to the virtual machine. The teacher gave us these instructions and since I don't meet the requirements for this class I don't understand them. I could ask him but sending an email would take a while to get the answer and the next class will be in a week ..
[06:05] <Ben64> 'some board from school' ?
[06:06] <chingao> it_: like a Raspberry Pi or Arduino?
[06:06] <it_> Yes, I suppose it will be this or something similiar to it (http://beagleboard.org/BLACK). It has a few more things added though..
[06:06] <Ben64> i just don't see how this is on topic here in #ubuntu
[06:08] <nabeen> hi. i did a `chsh` command to change my shell to tmux from zsh. Now, the terminal fails to open. How can i reset the default shell without using the command line? I tried `ctrl-alt-f1`, it asks for username and password, and loops again.
[06:08] <chingao> it_: I assume you have some version of Ubuntu up and running in a VMware virtual machine?
[06:08] <Ben64> nabeen: use recovery mode
[06:09] <nils_> so when are we going to see linux 4.2 available for users of trusty?
[06:09] <spinoza> exit
[06:09] <it_> Yes, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, VMWarePlayer 6.0.7
[06:09] <nyanyooo> hy
[06:09] <Ben64> nils_: 3 months officially
[06:09] <nabeen> Ben64: you mean like use a different kernel? sorry, i'm not sure what you mean by recovery mode. my laptop came with ubuntu installed, and it boots straight to ubuntu
[06:09] <nyanyooo> im newbie
[06:10] <Ben64> !recovery | nabeen
[06:10] <nyanyooo> how use ubuntu first
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !manual | nyanyooo
[06:10] <Ben64> it_: really seems like with the questions you're asking you want ##networking channel or maybe vmware support
[06:10] <nyanyooo> please explain 4 me
[06:10] <nyanyooo> how to use ubuntu first
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: ask your question first
[06:11] <nils_> Ben64, thanks
[06:12] <nyanyooo> how to look for ping in dekstop like windows alt+r ?
[06:12] <nyanyooo> ping www.google.com -t ?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: open a terminal and ping
[06:13] <nyanyooo> whr is terminal position
[06:13] <nyanyooo> im use ubuntu 15.04
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: try the ubuntu manual first
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: read and learn a bit before you start
[06:15] <nyanyooo> thx before lotus
[06:17] <Guest29816> hai
[06:18] <fauen> herrow
[06:18] <Guest29816> my name nexus
[06:18] <fauen> o_O
[06:27] <devslash2> i need help. ive had a problem just start tonight where when i boot ubuntu, both my displays dont work. ive obviously checked the hdmi cable and moved it to a different slot. i can also boot windows on the same pc and it works fine so its something in ubuntu
[06:27] <systemd0wn> So my pc shut off while upgrading to 15.10. I came back to see a kernel panic when trying to boot new kernel. However, booting old kernel worked. How can I see how far it got? What logs should I be looking at?
[06:29] <wileee> systemd0wn, I would run sudo apt-get -f install and see if it finishes
[06:32] <systemd0wn> Wileee, It says 0 for everything. :/ but if it's done, which maybe it was, I have kernel issues.
[06:35] <inter> monkey d.luffy
[06:37] <wileee> systemd0wn, Might try 'apt-get install linux-headers-generic' not sure otherwise, be sure it is panic not just a black screen from a driver issue...etc.
[06:38] <agent_white> Evenin/Mornin folks
[06:38] <sparr> my core dumps are being piped to apport. I just had a program crash and core dump. How can I find the dump, where did apport put it?
[06:46] <fauen> hi agent_white
[06:48] <metaphysician> linux-generic-lts-utopic in 14.04 will be supported till what time?
[06:48] <hateball> !lts | metaphysician
[06:50] <metaphysician> hateball: 3.16 kernel will be maintained for 14.04 till 14.04 EOLs?
[06:52] <hateball> metaphysician: oh I didnt see the utopic bit, no that only has 9 months support like the release itself
[06:52] <hateball> metaphysician: "apt-cache show linux-generic-lts-utopic" and note the Supported: at the end
[06:52] <systemd0wn> Wileee, thanks. I'll look. I know it said panic but the resolution was odd so I couldn't read it all. Should that be stored in /var/log/Kern.log ?
[06:52] <wileee> not sure
[06:52] <hateball> metaphysician: compare to apt-cache show linux-generic-lts-trusty
[07:02] <rickardve> someone that managed to install 15.10 using preseed?
[07:06] <Guest18> good morning =)
[07:09] <cynixx3> Good morning Guest18
[07:09] <Guest18> there are a lot of pep on here =o
[07:10] <cynixx3> Guest18, do you have a question?
[07:11] <Guest18> kinda =p
[07:11] <Guest18> purchased a little mini pc but cant for the life of me figure out why it wont install ubuntu properly
[07:12] <cynixx3> Do you get any kind of error? What do you mean by properly?
[07:13] <Guest18> windows 10 is installed on the unit . it shipped with win 8 win 8 eats up too much resources especially since it only has 2gb of ram
[07:13] <Guest18> So  i created a USB installer . went into bios made the proper boot changes tried to get it to boot but no luck =(
[07:14] <cynixx3> so your boot process does not let you select to boot off of usb?
[07:15] <Guest18> in the Bios im able to select it
[07:15] <Hekau> why xubuntu does not have hibernate option? :/
[07:15] <Guest18> but even after selecting it just skips it and boots win 10
[07:16] <cynixx3> DId you disable secure boot and fast boot from windows 10?
[07:16] <bujji> how to play arf files in ubuntu
[07:17] <bujji> i had wine software installed on my machine
[07:17] <bujji> o/
[07:17] <Guest18> i have disabled secure boot and fastboot in the bios not from win 10
[07:19] <Guest58717> May I have assistance creating proper partitions to run Ubuntu beside my existing Win 7 installation? I am currently on a Live USB
[07:20] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, i can help you with that
[07:21] <Guest58717> Thank you, curiousx
[07:21] <curiousx> Guest58717: just send me pictures of what you see and what do you wanna do
[07:21] <Guest58717> So I am in gparted at the moment.
[07:21] <Hekau> how to enable hibernate on xubuntu 15.04?
[07:21] <Guest58717> I just took a screenshot
[07:21] <curiousx> send me a picture
[07:21] <hateball> Guest58717: The installer should offer to set that up for you, no need to partition manually prior unless you want to do something like put /home on its own partition
[07:22] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok, upload it a imgur
[07:22] <cynixx3> Guest18, you may need to check that your USB is a proper boot disk, If that fails you I would look towards the Bios manufacturer.
[07:22] <Guest58717> I sent it on here
[07:22] <Guest58717> I can do Imgur though
[07:22] <Kartagis> do imgur
[07:23] <curiousx> yes, please, imgur
[07:23] <zamba> hi guys.. we're running a ubuntu desktop machine, but we don't want the user to be able to modify any network stuff.. how can we completely disable network manager and let network scripts handle the network connectivity?
[07:23] <cynixx3> Hekau, some systems do not allow the hibernation feature due to a hardware restriction.
[07:23] <m712> 15.10 upgrade is going painful so far
[07:23] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/edit
[07:24] <Guest18> @cynixx3 this is the unit https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=vensmile+ipc002&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[07:24] <Ben64> zamba: don't give them sudo
[07:24] <zamba> Ben64: what about just disabling network-manager?
[07:24] <cynixx3> Hekau, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate
[07:24] <Ben64> zamba: no
[07:24] <curiousx> Guest58717: that link wont work, that link is somethin' related to "edit"
[07:24] <Guest58717> I deleted my old Linux Mint partitions and made one unallocated space for Ubuntu, leaving behind a Win7 partition, and a free NTFS partition where I access music, and other media separate from the OS partitions
[07:24] <Guest58717> Oh, one moment
[07:25] <hateball> zamba, Ben64: You don't need sudo to add things like SSIDs tho. You could remove the nm-applet and let network-manager handle things on the backend still
[07:25] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok
[07:25] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/H0uAKIU
[07:25] <Guest58717> Does that work?
[07:26] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, now fire up the ubuntu installer
[07:26] <m712> welp, kdeinit crashed
[07:26] <curiousx> Guest58717: do you wanna make manual paritions right ?
[07:26] <SCHAAP137> good morning, everyone
[07:27] <cynixx3> Guest18, You should look into UEFI boot priorities.
[07:28] <Guest18> what do you mean ..
[07:28] <Guest58717> curiousx I'm not sure. So long as my swap space is 8GB (same as my RAM), and the bootloader is where it should be (sda I believe), I suppose Ubuntu can do it for me
[07:28] <Guest18> when using the USB stick it installs EFI boot part
[07:29] <cynixx3> guest18, bios should have an option for usb boot and UEFI usb boot.
[07:29] <Guest58717> Maybe I'm overly concerned. I was working on this earlier and Ubuntu sort of screwed it up. Maybe because I didn't delete the old partitions first
[07:29] <Guest18> i can check .. stand by
[07:29] <Guest58717> Will Ubuntu LIVE create the swap partition, bootloader partition, etc?
[07:30] <cynixx3> yes Guest58717
[07:30] <Ben64> Guest58717: make them yourself if you're so concerned about how the layout will be
[07:30] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, ubuntu can do all that automaticaly, but in that way it is better to expand the windows partition to get rid of the unallocated
[07:30] <zamba> hateball: but if you hate network manager, how do you solve it then? :)
[07:31] <curiousx> Guest58717: or you can do manual parition usin' the unallocated one
[07:31] <Guest58717> Ben 64 That is my sentiment, yes
[07:31] <Guest58717> curiousx I'd like to. I enjoy learning, and doing it myself allows me to retain this stuff as I go
[07:32] <Guest58717> But, I think I need slight supervision is all
[07:32] <Guest58717> I screwed it up earlier. I think I was too tired.
[07:32] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok then, let do manual and use the unallocated, send pictures where you are
[07:32] <ducasse> zamba: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:33] <Ben64> zamba: what is your actual goal
[07:33] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/H0uAKIU.png?1
[07:33] <hateball> zamba: I'm not sure why you hate it, it's perfectly scriptable. And as others have asked, what are you trying to acheive?
[07:33] <Ben64> Guest58717: run the installer
[07:33] <curiousx> Guest58717: i mean, start the ubuntu installer, then send pictures
[07:33] <hateball> zamba: nmcli is your friend
[07:34] <Guest58717> ... I see
[07:34] <Guest58717> One moment please
[07:34] <curiousx> Guest58717: np
[07:34] <zamba> i'm trying to not let the user handle networking at all.. it should all happen under the hood
[07:34] <Ben64> zamba: but why
[07:35] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/4Quwfrk.png
[07:35] <zamba> Ben64: because the user shouldn't handle networking
[07:36] <Ben64> zamba: why
[07:36] <Guest18> Quiet boot is enabled Fast boot is enabled USB suspport is Full initial
[07:36] <zamba> Ben64: oh my
[07:36] <zamba> Ben64: because we say so.. it's policy..
[07:36] <Ben64> zamba: explain yourself and you might get a good answer
[07:36] <Guest18> my boot options are Windows boot manager , and UEFI built in EFI
[07:36] <zamba> Ben64: it's a server machine.. with operators using the machine for work..
[07:36] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok, that is ok, only i think you shoud select install third part software
[07:36] <Guest58717> Please explain curiousx.
[07:37] <zamba> Ben64: so it's running ubuntu desktop, but it's a physical machine and the operators shouldn't bother with networking, as it should always be there
[07:37] <ducasse> zamba: just set the network up in /etc/network/interfaces, then you don't need network manager
[07:37] <Ben64> zamba: so tell them not to bother with networking?
[07:37] <SCHAAP137> man ip
[07:38] <Guest58717> Not the 'how', but rather the reasoning
[07:38] <curiousx> Guest58717: well, it's already explained, you what below "Intall third-party sofware" that will install some extra codecs to play .mp3 files
[07:38] <Ben64> Guest58717: it installs things most people want, but aren't "free"
[07:38] <Guest58717> Ok. Will do. I understand codecs to generally be a good thing
[07:39] <curiousx> you see* what's...
[07:39] <cynixx3> Guest18, You need to use windows to unlock fastboot in the bios. then you should be able to select uefi usb.
[07:40] <Guest18> fast boot is Enabled
[07:40] <yigal> hello I have an issue with dependencies.  I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 which is using Python 3.5 by default, however the dev. package is python3-dev which is stuck at 3.4.  I can simply change Pip to use 3.4 but is there a sane way to upgrade fully to a dev. environment of Python using 3.5?
[07:40] <yigal> python3-dev's Launchpad page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/python3-dev
[07:41] <Guest58717> curiousx http://i.imgur.com/O7grtEY.png
[07:41] <curiousx> Guest58717: select "Something Else" then "Install now"
[07:42] <Guest58717> May be from my earlier attempt. I haven't confirmed the changes to my partitions yet. The image, http://i.imgur.com/H0uAKIU.png?1 shows what I think it ought to be
[07:43] <Ben64> Guest58717: well its missing ubuntu partitions
[07:43] <Guest58717> Should I apply all operations first?
[07:43] <Ben64> not while you're running the installer :|
[07:43] <Ben64> close gparted and do it from the installer
[07:43] <cynixx3> Guest18, you need fastboot and secure boot disabled to change the boot sequence. Try this in conjunction with the Dual boot guide, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[07:44] <Guest58717> Okay. I just understand gparted better than the one with the installer is all
[07:44] <Guest58717> On it now
[07:45] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/OCEbS2J.png
[07:45] <Guest58717> I've cancelled gparted operations by closing it
[07:45] <Guest58717> I don't understand the installer's version very well
[07:45] <Guest58717> The interface is more... messy
[07:45] <Ben64> its the same information
[07:45] <curiousx> Guest58717: select "sdb7" then click on "+"
[07:46] <Guest58717> I understand that, but the way it is presented to a neophyte like myself matters
[07:46] <Guest58717> ok
[07:46] <Ben64> curiousx: i think Guest58717 wants to remove the ubuntu partitions
[07:46] <curiousx> Ben64: oh!, forgot that
[07:46] <Guest58717> xD
[07:47] <Guest18> i just read that people need to use an OTG cable to finish initial installation . its also used to charge the mini pc unit
[07:47] <curiousx> Guest58717: "sdb5" then click on "-"
[07:47] <curiousx> theb "sdb6" then click on "-"
[07:47] <yigal> dang this is a bummer and an oversight apparently requiring the upgrade to Python 3.5 without providing the header files, i.e. upgrading python3-dev to Python 3.5 :(
[07:47] <curiousx> then*
[07:48] <cynixx3> Are you able to boot off usb now Guest18?
[07:48] <Guest18> no it just skips the boot and goes to the windwos boot manager
[07:49] <Ben64> yigal: not sure where you're seeing that 3.5 is "required"
[07:49] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/EKuSNX7.png curiousx Ok
[07:50] <Ben64> Guest58717: you didn't remove sda5
[07:50] <Ben64> sdb5*
[07:50] <Guest58717> ok
[07:50] <cynixx3> Guest18,Did you disable fastboot?
[07:50] <Guest18> yes
[07:50] <curiousx> Guest58717: well, we better do that task usin' gparted
[07:51] <Guest58717> Oh?
[07:51] <Ben64> ...no its almost done
[07:51] <cynixx3> and you have the uefi usb option?
[07:51] <Guest18> i dont even know if ubuntu supports the graphics
[07:51] <Guest58717> ...
[07:51] <Ben64> literally two more clicks
[07:51] <Guest58717> I'm all about gparted, but with guidance, I don't mind using the installer's version
[07:51] <Guest58717> Your call guys
[07:51] <Ben64> you need to use the installer anyway, might as well do it all now
[07:52] <curiousx> Guest58717: please open Gparted then send a picture
[07:52] <agent_white> Anyone getting spammed by "at0mxxxxxx" bots?
[07:52] <Ben64> curiousx: why!
[07:52] <cynixx3> Guest18, Do you have the UFEI USB boot option?
[07:52] <Guest58717> On it
[07:53] <Ben64> Guest58717: remove sdb5 and you'll be where you were at with gparted before
[07:53] <Ben64> its pointless using gparted when you'll NEED to use this installer screen anyway!
[07:53] <curiousx> Ben64: becouse, gparted will make just one whole unalocated partition
[07:53] <Ben64> no it won't
[07:54] <curiousx> Ben64: the install already knows that he has 3 partitions
[07:54] <Ben64> you're not making any sense
[07:54] <curiousx> i mean 3 ext4 partitions
[07:54] <Ben64> yeah thats why he needs to delete them
[07:54] <curiousx> Ben64: ok then, go ahead Ben64
[07:54] <Ben64> click on sdb5, hit -, DONE
[07:55] <Ben64> i don't know why you're trying to make it more complicated
[07:55] <yigal> Ben64: yah my bad, it appears upon upgrading pip using it defaults to selecting the latest Python installed, which is now Python 3.5 for 15.10.
[07:55] <pagios> hi all, i have a question about the "mv" command, when i do an mv and stop it in the middle does it delete the original files? or it only deletes them when the mv command completed? like a cp and delete?
[07:55] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/7MhDbek.png
[07:56] <Guest58717> Ok, anyway. Here I am
[07:56] <Ben64> Guest58717: why
[07:56] <Guest58717> Where were we?
[07:56] <Guest58717> Shall I close it?
[07:56] <Ben64> all you had to do was click two things
[07:56] <Guest58717> I'm still in the installer
[07:56] <Guest58717> Minimized
[07:56] <Ben64> close gparted
[07:57] <Guest58717> Done
[07:57] <Ben64> click on sdb5, hit -, DONE
[07:58] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/XcWZm6a'
[07:58] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/XcWZm6a
[07:58] <tomasz_> hello
[07:58] <fauen> hi tomasz_
[07:58] <curiousx> oh! Ben64 you was right :D
[07:58] <Ben64> Guest58717: there you go, now you can create partitions however you want, and choose where to put the bootloader
[07:58] <Ben64> curiousx: i always am
[07:58] <curiousx> i didn't new the installer could do it that clean
[07:58] <tomasz_> how are you today?
[07:59] <Guest58717> Hey, I thank you both for your help thus far
[07:59] <fauen> I'm all good, how are you?
[07:59] <tomasz_> i'm fine too
[07:59] <tomasz_> thx
[07:59] <Guest58717> So swap and bootloader partitions will be made upon installation?
[08:00] <Ben64> no you have to make any partitions you want
[08:00] <curiousx> Guest58717: xD np, mmm... select "free space" then click on "+"
[08:00] <Guest58717> How do I insure my swap is equal to my memory, etc?
[08:00] <Guest58717> Ok
[08:00] <Ben64> Guest58717: so... what partitions do you want
[08:00] <tomasz_> could you tell my how i can open my weather indicator in terminal?
[08:00] <tomasz_> me*
[08:02] <Guest58717> 500gb Hardrive. I want to keep 150GB Win7, 280GB for media storage (my artwork, music, documentaries, etc)
[08:02] <Guest58717> The rest is Linux
[08:02] <Guest58717> That is the goal anyway
[08:02] <yigal> Ben64: so a simple "sed -ir '/python/ s/(python3.)[0-9]/\14/p' /usr/local/bin/pip3" did the trick :)
[08:02] <Guest58717> And I understand the amounts may be rough due to bootloader partition, swap, etc
[08:03] <Ben64> yeah, that already exists, what linux partitions do you want
[08:03] <Guest58717> Everything that remains once swap and bootloader are good
[08:03] <Ben64> you plan on hibernating?
[08:04] <TechnoCrunch> Hey guys can I just ask a question what is in your ubuntu live usb boot folder?
[08:04] <Guest58717> Sometimes, assuming it works. Couldn't use it in Mint without issues. Maybe my error, idk
[08:04] <Guest58717> Would like to have it
[08:04] <TechnoCrunch> and then casper
[08:04] <Ben64> Guest58717: how much ram do you have
[08:04] <Guest58717> 8gb
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> TechnoCrunch: whats your purpose with this?
[08:05] <Guest18> is ATOM intel Z3735F supported with ubuntu
[08:05] <Ben64> Guest58717: so make a partition in the free space, and leave at least 8GB left over, then make a partition 8GB or more in the remaining space
[08:05] <TechnoCrunch> I'm just giving everyhting a try to make my mac boot my ubuntu live usb
[08:05] <Guest58717> On it
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !mac | TechnoCrunch can this help?
[08:06] <curiousx> Ben64: well, i would suggest 15 gb for /  in case he install lots of software of heavy ones -.-
[08:07] <TechnoCrunch> Just a question why does it take me to ubuntu 10.04 for my macbook pro?
[08:07] <curiousx> or* heavy...
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> TechnoCrunch: 10.04 is end of life mate
[08:08] <Guest58717> I really suck at the installer's disk gui
[08:08] <soupnanodesukar> Remember to overprovision if you use a ssd.  The guided install should really come with a box to tick for that.
[08:08] <TechnoCrunch> well that what the website says
[08:08] <Guest58717> I don't understand why it shows an extra partition in ntfs
[08:08] <Guest58717> I don't recall making one
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> TechnoCrunch: yeah the mac trigger is bit outdated sorry
[08:08] <yigal> TechnoCrunch: if you want to use the LTS use 14.04, see the release cycle here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:09] <curiousx> Guest58717: windows makes partitions by itself, recovery partitions and like that
[08:09] <Guest58717> Now I see
[08:09] <TechnoCrunch> It's fine lotuspsychje I've tried about everything I say about cause there might be something out of nowhere that could fix my problem
[08:09] <Guest58717> No, it is showing my external hardrive
[08:09] <Guest18> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252391 looks like im not installing ubuntu =(
[08:09] <Guest58717> Gparted let me exclude it within the ui
[08:09] <Guest58717> Stuff like that throws me
[08:10] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/XcWZm6a
[08:10] <TechnoCrunch> For me Ubuntu just hangs at the splash screen aka the boot up screen with the 5 dots
[08:10] <Guest58717> What is /dev/sda and /dec/sdb? They are blank
[08:10] <yigal> TechnoCrunch: are you using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages ?
[08:10] <Ben64> Guest58717: sda is another drive in your computer
[08:11] <TechnoCrunch> To help me install a end of life OS? no
[08:11] <Guest58717> Okay, the external HD I have
[08:11] <Guest58717> sdb is my 500gb hardrive then
[08:11] <yigal> TechnoCrunch: what wiki are you using?
[08:11] <Guest58717> I'm starting to understand better
[08:11] <TechnoCrunch> Not using a wiki
[08:11] <wileee> Technobliterator, there are links on that page to trusty depending on the mac you have
[08:12] <yigal> face palm
[08:12] <Guest58717> So I need to leave 8000MB for swap on my system
[08:12] <TechnoCrunch> I'm using google and trying multiple methods to fix my boot up hang
[08:12] <TechnoCrunch> None have fixed it yet
[08:12] <Ben64> Guest58717: at least 8192MB
[08:15] <Guest58717> So I should make a partition, leaving 8192 for swap? Will bootloader (grub or whatever) make a space on its own?
[08:15] <cynixx3> Guest18, That link is a year old and its bleading edge information is no longer valid. Ubuntu can boot 64bit EFI no problem and most processors are well supported.
[08:15] <Guest58717> Ben64^
[08:15] <Guest18> im using an INTEL ATOM Z3735F
[08:15] <curiousx> Guest58717: you could now the exact amount of swap you need if you would know how much ram (all togeather) do you use havin' all your sofware you run at the same time
[08:15] <curiousx> could know*
[08:16] <Guest18> i only have 2gb of ram should i make a usb stick for 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[08:16] <TechnoCrunch> 32 bit
[08:17] <Guest18> kk downloading ubuntu desktop 15.10 32bit
[08:18] <Ben64> Guest58717: i'd go a bit more than 8192 just to be safe, you need to choose which drive to install grub on to, since you said sda is external, you probably want sdb. grub installs into the mbr, you don't need a space for it
[08:18] <cynixx3>   Guest18<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:18] <Guest58717> I'll leave about 10000MB for it then
[08:18] <Guest58717> Give or take
[08:19] <Ben64> Guest58717: so make the big partition ext4, and have the mountpoint be /
[08:19] <weebl> Hi guys, after upgrading from 15.04 -> 15.10 my unity seems broken and it didnt install 4.2 kernel - anyone else have this?
[08:20] <Ben64> Guest58717: the 10GB one you want to choose swap
[08:20] <Guest58717> Making the big one first now
[08:20] <Guest18> tandard images of Ubuntu may not work at all
[08:20] <Guest18> so .. i should contact them and tell them to give me the img file ?
[08:21] <Guest18> why is it 64 bit ?
[08:22] <Guest58717> curiousx Ben64 http://imgur.com/tyLHmWu is where I am
[08:23] <Guest58717> Just, for whom it concerns
[08:23] <Guest58717> Does that look good? Ignore sda
[08:23] <Ben64> Guest58717: make sure to change the bootloader installation location
[08:23] <Guest58717> Ah, right
[08:24] <curiousx> Guest58717: how much ram do you have ?
[08:24] <Guest58717> 8GB, err 8192MB I believe
[08:25] <Guest58717> Where do I direct the boot loader?
[08:25] <Ben64> sdb
[08:25] <Guest58717> sdb in general, or somewhere specific?
[08:26] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/0JXgCd8 Ben64
[08:26] <Ben64> looks good
[08:26] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok. the amount of swap never have tobe grater than the amount of ram -.-
[08:27] <curiousx> Guest58717: it's ok anyways you just lose 2 gbs of disk space, isn't much
[08:27] <Guest58717> :/
[08:27] <Guest58717> I'm anal
[08:27] <Guest58717> Hold up a sec
[08:27] <Guest18> oh oh he's anal
[08:28] <Guest58717> Could I, in theory, upgrade my RAM to 10GB?
[08:28] <Guest58717> In the future
[08:28] <Guest58717> Do they even have RAM in that amount, or does it jump to 12 or something?
[08:29] <Ben64> Guest58717: 8+2 = 10
[08:29] <Guest58717> Right. I'm running two 4GB sticks
[08:30] <curiousx> Guest58717: well, depends on what the chipset of your motherboard supports
[08:30] <Guest58717> I'm confused. Am I wasting space this way? Should I adjust the partition for swap to be smaller than 10610MB? Should I make it closer to 8192MB?
[08:31] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/0JXgCd8 is the screen
[08:31] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, you shoud make it at max, the same amount of yout ram
[08:31] <curiousx> your*
[08:31] <Guest58717> I recall Ben64 saying to leave extra room
[08:31] <Guest58717> Did I misunderstand?
[08:32] <Ben64> Guest58717: i said a bit more, you went 2GB more, which will work i guess
[08:33] <curiousx> Guest58717: idk Guest58717 but, the thing that if you use hibernate as i did read, all the "things" that there is in your ram, goes to the swap, so, if your ram is 8 gbs, then at max 8 gbs will go to the swap
[08:33] <vlt> Hello. Can I add a 2 seconds pause BEFORE each track of an audio CD project with brasero?
[08:33] <curiousx> the thing is* ...
[08:33] <vlt> The first two seconds shoudl be silent.
[08:35] <thms> HI everyone. I got a few kernels in my /boot which makes me unable to apt-get upgrade, it tells me to apt-get clean but it doesn't clean it, shall I remove the kernels that I don't use by myself ?
[08:35] <Ben64> thms: why do they stop you from upgrading
[08:36] <Guest18> it was nice chatting with you guys .. talk to you soon
[08:36] <thms> Ben64: The upgrade dialogue tells me I need to free space
[08:36] <hateball> Ben64, thms: I am guessing /boot is full
[08:36] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/e3MGyNq
[08:36] <Guest58717> How about this?
[08:36] <Guest18> thank you for all your help cynixx3
[08:36] <thms> yes /boot needs more space
[08:36] <hateball> thms: There's instructions here to remove old kernels https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[08:36] <thms> thx
[08:37] <Ben64> Guest58717: fine
[08:37] <curiousx> Ben64: he has 62 gbd for / -.-
[08:37] <hateball> thms: There's also one-liners that can clean it for you, let me see if I can find it
[08:38] <curiousx> gbs*
[08:38] <Ben64> curiousx: yep
[08:38] <curiousx> i just suggest 15 :D
[08:39] <Ben64> less space? why
[08:39] <curiousx> only/suggest
[08:40] <Guest58717> Now, when it asks for my name, will that be the name of the usr folder? What is username then?
[08:40] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/e3MGyNq
[08:40] <Ben64> thats a picture of your partitions
[08:40] <Guest58717> oops
[08:40] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/rcCIB8f
[08:40] <Guest58717> That one^
[08:40] <curiousx> becous / only will hold some high hierarchy folders and files from sofware he install and nothing else, then the rest (45 gbs or so) /home
[08:41] <Flannel> Guest58717: username is your username (and the name of your home folder).  Name is free-form (spaces, capitalization, etc)
[08:41] <Ben64> Guest58717: uh, username is a box there
[08:41] <Guest58717> lol
[08:41] <hateball> thms: this has several options for you to use http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[08:41] <Guest58717> Flannel So how does "Your Name" matter with the computer? Is it irrelevant?
[08:42] <weebl> anyone know why the release upgrade 15.04 -> 15.10 might skip the kernel upgrade?
[08:43] <tyrell> hi
[08:43] <Flannel> Guest58717: Not for most things no.  It'll be displayed when you're logging in/out, etc.  But from a technical perspectice, no, you're really your username.
[08:43] <Guest58717> Thought as much
[08:44] <Guest58717> Thanks for the clarity
[08:44] <tyrell> hello
[08:45] <curiousx> hi
[08:46] <tyrell> new to irc's
[08:46] <curiousx> tyrell: welcome to IRC i'll be your guide, this is an ubuntu support channel, how can i help you ? -.-
[08:47] <tyrell> haha
[08:47] <Guest58717> Encrypting the Home folder sounds lovely
[08:47] <Ben64> don't do it, its a trap
[08:48] <Guest58717> Ben64?
[08:48] <weebl> :D
[08:48] <tyrell> ?
[08:48] <curiousx> tyrell: yes, this is only support, for all other matters there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:48] <SCHAAP137> I don't always encrypt my home folder, but when I do, i use ecryptfs
[08:48] <Ben64> just makes it way more likely you'll lose your data
[08:48] <weebl> upgraded to 15.10 too soon - everything broke ;D
[08:48] <Guest58717> I already started it :/
[08:48] <Guest58717> Can I change it back?
[08:48] <Ben64> well good luck
[08:48] <SCHAAP137> 15.10 works fine, don't worry
[08:48] <tyrell> what unbuntu software do you guys use?
[08:49] <Guest58717> ...
[08:50] <Any_where> So many people....
[08:50] <weebl> Guest58717: if you don't have too many customizations it will probably work fine
[08:50] <weebl> but if you've been playing around with kernel modules, bumblebee customizations etc then it will probably break :)
[08:51] <Guest58717> weebl Nothing like that no, but if it is going to cause problems...
[08:51] <Guest58717> I'd like to avoid reinstalling over and over
[08:51] <Guest58717> But I already clocked it
[08:51] <Guest58717> clicked*
[08:51] <Guest58717> I'm doomed
[08:52] <Guest58717> Death, by encryption
[08:52] <Guest58717> I just don't want the FBI putting some weird spin on the fact that I listen to Prince is all
[08:53] <Guest58717> Just sayin'
[08:53] <Ben64> that won't stop them but if it helps you sleep go for it
[08:54] <Guest58717> Question: Is it better to reinstall without encryption, then customize my system, or, customize my system and pray the encryption doesn't make me do it all again with a new install anyway?
[08:54] <Ben64> well at most you'll just lose your home directory
[08:54] <Ben64> won't require a reinstall
[08:54] <Guest58717> Okay
[08:54] <Guest58717> I guess I'm in for a lesson
[08:56] <thms> hateball: thaks
[08:56] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 and many things are screwed up now
[08:56] <OnkelTem> Hate upgrades
[08:56] <Ben64> to 14.04? from what
[08:56] <OnkelTem> First, I have three monitors and now they are disordered
[08:57] <OnkelTem> from 12.04
[08:58] <OnkelTem> In System Settings > Display and Monitor there is no display list, only screensaver options
[08:58] <OnkelTem> I have nVidia card, and with nvidia-settings I can reorder displays in the correct way, but this isn't preserved between sessions
[08:59] <OnkelTem> Also I tried to save the setup to xorg.conf (which doesn't exist in my system, so I created it) but this didn't help
[08:59] <OnkelTem> Oh, this is KDE
[09:03] <nglpx1> hi
[09:03] <nglpx1> I am upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10
[09:04] <nglpx1> the upgrading process is now locked
[09:04] <nglpx1> systemd occupies 100% cpu
[09:04] <hateball> OnkelTem: You could always try using this PPA to see if it's some bug https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:06] <hateball> OnkelTem: I use multiple monitors in KDE, altho that is with Intel (mesa) and it works fine. Only have one monitor at home where I use nVidia so I havent seen any such bugs sadly
[09:06] <OnkelTem> hateball: I was using sgfxi for a long time
[09:06] <nglpx1> the terminal shows that the upgrading process is searching for loaders
[09:07] <OnkelTem> hateball: so this PPA brings some new driver updates, right?
[09:07] <nglpx1> he founded the debian install on /dev/sda5
[09:07] <hateball> OnkelTem: Yes, it gives you the latest nvidia driver+settings.
[09:08] <nglpx1> is it possible to interrupt the upgrading process without do damage?
[09:10] <OnkelTem> hateball: you won't believe: it has started saving display settings between sessions!
[09:11] <OnkelTem> Oh these bugs!
[09:11] <hateball> OnkelTem: without switching to the PPA?
[09:11] <OnkelTem> hateball: with
[09:11] <hateball> ah
[09:11] <OnkelTem> after update
[09:11] <hateball> :)
[09:11] <OnkelTem> hateball: tnanks!
[09:11] <hateball> OnkelTem: You're welcome
[09:15] <OnkelTem> at every session start annyoing notification appears: "software update notifications are available"
[09:15] <OnkelTem> while there are no any updates
[09:15] <OnkelTem> ideas - why does it appear and how to shut it up?
[09:17] <blubberger> Windows is so much better. Easier installation and you can even play battlefront #getrekt
[09:18] <allen> anyway to show the "computer"icon on the desktop using mate?
[09:18] <OnkelTem> blubberger: wrong comparison
[09:18] <somsip> OnkelTem: please dont encourage the trolls - just ignore them
[09:19] <OnkelTem> ok
[09:20] <hateball> OnkelTem: well, you can disable muon-updater from auto-starting and instead doing manual update checks
[09:21] <hateball> OnkelTem: iirc it behaves better in plasma 5, but I still keep it hidden...
[09:21] <OnkelTem> Seems that the message doesn't mean there are software updats
[09:21] <OnkelTem> it appears whenever there is an action unfinished (post-install)
[09:22] <OnkelTem> the problem is that you can follow from the notification to the problem place
[09:23] <OnkelTem> so it's like a puzzle to figure out what is wrong specifically. In case there was a bulb in the tray: it turned out that flashplayer plugin was not downloaded
[09:23] <OnkelTem> I my* case
[09:24] <OnkelTem> now after I [re]installed it manually, the notification is gone
[09:24] <hateball> OnkelTem: oh it was notification-helper
[09:24] <OnkelTem> somsip: I just wanted to say to that troll, that Linux is better at least for computer sciences!
[09:24] <OnkelTem> hateball: probably
[09:26] <somsip> OnkelTem: Understandable, but futile when dealing with trolls. Let it go
[09:26] <agent_white> ^
[09:27] <rickardve> Any info on bugs/problem with preseed / debian-installer?
[09:28] <OnkelTem> Ok. I can state that I after 2 years of listening blames (go and upgrade!) I now have Ubuntu 14.04 running.
[09:44] <harry> #ekoparty
[09:46] <RepThis1> Is compiling PHP a big pain relative to many other things out there?
[09:55] <thecyclone> I guess the answer to that is no.
[09:55] <thecyclone> But PHP is a pain sometimes
[10:16] <wu1> #ba2fa1#
[10:25] <M1C4HTRON13> Hi guys just installed ubuntu mate on my parents old xp machine for them. I used the automatic install along side windows option in the installer. Now trying to boot xp from the grub I just get a blinking cursor. Havent touched a windows install for years so I'm a bit lost when it comes to diagnosing and fixing this.
[10:30] <mogaj> Hi I am trying to connect ZTE 4g donglle to ubuntu 15.04 laptop but its not detecting, please any pointers
[10:31] <hateball> mogaj: run "dmesg" in a terminal after you plug it in, see if there's any interesting output
[10:31] <hateball> mogaj: also run "lsusb" and show us the ID of the device
[10:32] <mogaj> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 19d2:0017 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[10:32] <mogaj> hateball, ^
[10:35] <hateball> mogaj: hmmm, seems it should have been supported long ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/614071/comments/2
[10:36] <hateball> mogaj: is it detected as a mass storage device?
[10:36] <mogaj> how can i check that?
[10:36] <hateball> well, if it pops up a message to show the contents of the drive
[10:36] <hateball> some of these drives have drivers for windows etc included, so you need to tell them to switch to "modem" mode
[10:38] <hateball> mogaj: this may be of interest as well https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=176944
[10:41] <Twirl> is it possible to plug another monitor into vertical mode? its an ACER - X193W
[10:43] <Twirl> the question is regarding the OS/monitor
[10:43] <Twirl> i'm wondering if it's possible to render another desktop in vertical mode
[10:43] <taxomoney> Hello! Is the JDK installed by default on recent versions of Ubuntu? I use an Ubuntu derivative called Zorin OS where it is. I basically want to know if my sister who has Ubuntu 14.04 and has started to learn Java in school will be able to run the javac and java commands.
[10:44] <Twirl> oh nvm i just see it lets you rotate it :)
[10:44] <Quatroking> Hi
[10:44] <Quatroking> is there a way to use pushbullet over cli
[10:46] <mogaj> hateball, when i plug the dongle it is opening in file manager
[10:46] <Ben64> taxomoney: no, but its easy to install
[10:46] <taxomoney> Ben64: ok, thank you!
[10:47] <chotaz`w> Anyone else having problems booting with kernel 4.2?
[10:48] <chotaz`w> Is seems to hang for me after unlocking my hard drive, how can I debug this further?
[10:48] <hateball> mogaj: yeah, then you should check out the second link about usb_modeswitch
[10:48] <hateball> mogaj: unmount the device in file manager first
[10:49] <hateball> mogaj: what the command does is to tell the device it is a modem and not a cdrom
[10:49] <mogaj> ok
[10:53] <dionysus69> how do I manually set powertop tunable to bad? bluetooth is set to good and I cant pretty much use it so I want to manually set it to bad
[10:56] <adsc> how can I install the ubuntu app on my iPhone?
[10:57] <adsc> my friend has sent me a link, but when I tap it, the app store doesn't open
[10:58] <adsc> this is the link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[10:59] <k1l_> adsc: ubuntu app on your iphone? that doesnt make sense at all
[10:59] <adsc> it doesn't?
[10:59] <k1l_> please dont spoil this volunteer support channel with your trolling. thanks
[11:00] <adsc> okay, I'll ask my friend
[11:00] <adsc> he also showed me this channel, but I tell him what you said
[11:01] <k1l_> adsc: just stop it. its not the first time you try to troll in here.
[11:03] <adsc> you are right, I didn't get answers last time either
[11:03] <adsc> thought maybe there are new people in here now
[11:05] <Twirl> hi, why does is nethogs showing i'm using tor?
[11:05] <mogaj> /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/ is empty is this normal?
[11:09] <atralheaven_> Hello, what does "--system" mean in "adduser --system --no-create-home username"?
[11:10] <chotaz`w> atralheaven_, http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=adduser+--system
[11:11] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: I need to add a user with no home directory and "nologin" as shell on my ubuntu server
[11:12] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: wow that website is awesome!
[11:13] <chotaz`w> If it only explain how I debug not being able to boot into 4.2 :(
[11:13] <chotaz`w> s/explain/explained
[11:14] <theptr> hi, does someone know how i can activate hibernate on ubuntu 14.04LTS desktop.
[11:17] <mogaj> I am trying to configure ZTE donggle on ubuntu 15.04 but i am unable to set it up, please someone help i tried few things with earlier inputs those results are as follows ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12901760/
[11:18] <TJ-> atralheaven_: It creates's a 'system' user (UID < 1000 typically) generally for a process to run as
[11:19] <atralheaven_> TJ-: what does a "system" user mean?
[11:19] <atralheaven_> TJ-: I need to add a user with no home directory and "nologin" as shell on my ubuntu server
[11:20] <TJ-> atralheaven_: a system user is one used to run system services (daemons) such as web-server, rather than as a human user that logs on
[11:20] <atralheaven_> TJ-: do I need a system user for what I want?
[11:21] <mogaj> Hi when i do --- $ sudo usb_modeswitch -c /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf is giving this error "Error: can't use storage command in MessageContent with interface 0;   interface class is 255, expected 8.  If so, --system is NOT what you want
[11:25] <atralheaven_> TJ-: yes, a human is going to use ssh ONLY for making a socks proxy tunnel
[11:26] <atralheaven_> TJ-: I don't want that user to be able to do anything else
[11:26] <M1C4HTRON13> ran boot-recovery but xp still fails to boot. boot-info http://paste.ubuntu.com/12901732/ any ideas?
[11:28] <atralheaven_> will a user have home directory if I use "useradd -s /sbin/nologin username" to create it?
[11:32] <chotaz`w> yes.
[11:32] <chotaz`w> you need to specify that you dont want a home folder, like u did earlier.
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:35] <jokx> hello
[11:43] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: no it was adduser, its useradd
[11:44] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: I don't know how to have both options, no home folder and nologin for shell
[11:50] <Mythikos> How do I install TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-<IP_ADDRESS>.run? I obtained it directly from their site, as the Software Center didn't have it.
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> !teamspeak | Mythikos
[11:52] <MichaelMensassis> Hey I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and when I log in, it goes to login then immediately just kicks me back to the login screen
[11:52] <Mythikos> May I join Teamspeak channels with Mumble? My friend has a server space for us to talk.
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> MichaelMensassis: wich grafix card chipset do you have mate?
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: not sure mate, maybe the #mumble channel knows?
[11:53] <MichaelMensassis> lotuspsychje: I'm running it in a VM, VirtualBox
[11:53] <Mythikos> Is that a freenode?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: yes sir
[11:54] <Mythikos> Fair enough. Thanks much
[11:56] <Mythikos> The link you provided says Teamspeak is available from the repo. Why can't I see it in my Software Manager?
[11:56] <Mythikos> Directed at ubottu
[11:56] <rexwin_> my client wants a Proxy Server to be installed in ubuntu machine. what is proxy server and what program should i install like samba for file server?
[11:56] <chotaz`w> ubottu is a bot.
[11:57] <boogeyman> how do I find what is the default Monospace font?
[11:57] <chotaz`w> you cant join mumble/teamspeak servers from the other client application
[11:58] <Mythikos> I see.
[11:58] <boogeyman> it's not 'Deja Vu Sans Mono'
[11:58] <boogeyman> is there any link or something that binds the font to Monospace name?
[11:59] <Mythikos> ubottu gave me this link, which says Teamspeak is in the repo. Why can't I see it in my software manager? (fresh install btw)
[11:59] <Mythikos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak
[11:59] <bazhang> !info teamspeak
[11:59] <Mythikos> I'm in Trusty Tahr
[12:00] <Mythikos> !info teamspeak
[12:00] <Mythikos> Hmm...
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !info teamspeak feisty
[12:00] <bazhang> !info teamspeak trusty
[12:00] <bazhang> nope
[12:00] <Mythikos> Well, that clears that up
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: the trigger might be outdated, but check that ubuntu forum link on the url
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: it explains howto install it manually from their site
[12:01] <chotaz`w> neither teamspeak nor teamspeak3 packages exist, you'd have to install it manually from the website
[12:01] <Mythikos> I have it, but do not know what command to install it
[12:01] <Mythikos> 'Tis in my Downloads now
[12:02] <jonah> hi just building a PC and hit a couple of hurdles if anyone can please help? First is my case has two fans in the back, both have a 3 pin connector but my motherboard just has one case fan port which is 4 pin! Is there a way to still hook these up with an adaptor etc?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> jonah: maybe the ##hardware guys can give you a help?
[12:04] <jonah> second problem is my power supply. The 24 pin motherboard power connects fine, but only one of the two 4 pin atx 12 vols will fit, so the other half won't fit in due to wrong shape.
[12:04] <jonah> lotuspsychje: ok will try them thanks
[12:04] <ylambda> I can't get gnome-terminal to show a visual bell
[12:05] <ylambda> my googling isn't turning up anything helpful
[12:05] <jokx> Hi, a little question : I've installed Ubuntu-Gnome Wily + ppa:gnome3team .. but Eye-Of-Gnome and Evince show me an horrible menu in place of integreted top-bar ... I think that modification is done for Unity, but for gnome user : is there a way to recover un-patched application ? Or Unity dev's are juste like kim-jun-un ?
[12:05] <jonah> lotuspsychje: ah I can't post to that channel
[12:05] <Mythikos> Is it better to install Steam from their site, or the repository?
[12:05] <hateball> Mythikos: Use the package manager
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> !register | jonah to join ##hardware
[12:05] <Mythikos> Okiedokie
[12:06] <hateball> Mythikos: It only installs a script that pulls in the client to your ~/, and Steam keeps itself up-to-date. The Ubuntu packages however also have some other things, like added support for Steam controller
[12:07] <Nyt129X> helloo everyone ,  I'm trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10 from 14.04 , BUT I'm getting the following error:  "UNABLE TO CALCULATE UPGADE UBUNTU" with the following recommendations "This can be caused by: * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu,* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu, * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu " Any advice ??
[12:07] <Mythikos> hateball Thank you
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: not very reccomended to upgrade from lts to non-lts
[12:07] <hateball> Nyt129X: You can't upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 without breaking
[12:08] <hateball> Nyt129X: The advice would be to wait for 16.04 which is the next LTS, and offers an upgrade from 14.04
[12:08] <Nyt129X> hateball: I see...thanks guys.
[12:09] <jokx> Nyt129X: the upgrade is possible by hand ... but with many pain
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: you could test 15.10 from virtualbox instead
[12:09] <Nyt129X> Anyways SOME of the newer functons will be passed over to 14.04 is it ??
[12:09] <TJ-> Nyt129X: the only sane path is 14.04 > 14.10 (now EOL) > 15.04 > 15.10
[12:10] <jokx> Nyt129X: only the kernel, graphical stack and unity special purpose
[12:10] <Nyt129X> jokx: WITHOUT Breaking ?? I have some unofiicial ppsa's as well.
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: we dont support ppa's neither
[12:10] <TJ-> Nyt129X: The reason is, each package contains a pre-install and post-install script, and those are written manually to cope with the known versions (installed vs to-be-installed), so package Foo in 14.10 'knows' how to upgrade from Foo in 14.04, but Foo in 15.04 only knows how to upgrade from 14.10
[12:11] <schlerp> coolmadmax: i use owncloud, i would recommend it
[12:11] <Nyt129X> lotuspsychje: No vm
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: then stick to 14.04 or install 15.10 fresh
[12:11] <jokx> Nyt129X: it's very complicate .. but not impossible, the way is to disable ppa, dist-upgrade, clean, purge, autoremove .. some importante peace of software will cry and be removed .. you have to do and then to re-install ... and finaly you will be able to re-activate your ppa ... but it's a very pain-way
[12:11] <hateball> Time flies, 16.04 will be here soon
[12:12] <rexwin_> my client wants a Proxy Server to be installed in ubuntu machine. what is proxy server and what program should i install like samba for file server?
[12:12] <bekks> rexwin_: Samba is not related to a proxy server at all.
[12:12] <Mythikos> hateball ZThere appear to be two options in my SM, Steam (steam) and Steam (steam launcher). Which do I choose? Both?
[12:12] <Nyt129X> jokx: Hmmm....In that case cant I upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04 and finally to 15.10 ?? Without breaking anything ??
[12:12] <bekks> rexwin_: If you want a proxy server, use squid.
[12:12] <Nyt129X> Or should I WAIT till 16.04 ??
[12:12] <rexwin_> squid says it acts as proxy server
[12:13] <Mythikos> hateball Nvm. The first is "Not Found"
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: wait like hateball suggested :p
[12:13] <hateball> Mythikos: steam-launcher should set up the things for you on its first run, then it would be just steam
[12:13] <Mythikos> Thank you
[12:13] <jokx> Nyt129X: if you'r not a APT expert : just wait for 16.04
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Nyt129X, 14.10 EOL, no longer supported, 15.10 new, stick with 14.04 it's stable and i still supported
[12:14] <bvemu> #django
[12:14] <Mythikos> hateball It only has a "Buy" button. How do I install it? Do I really need some sort of account?
[12:15] <bekks> How can set the default editor for crontab -e on Ubuntu 14.04?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> !squid | rexwin_
[12:15] <Nyt129X> Or should I WAIT till 16.04 ???? (Hopefully)
[12:16] <hateball> Mythikos: Can you post a screenshot? You need an account to use Steam, but there's no cost involved
[12:16] <Nyt129X> jokx: Noted... Not an expert on apt...Just install clean purge :-( WIll wait til 16.04  .  SO THEN there wont be any issues when tryin to upgrade
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: depends on your needs
[12:16] <bekks> Nyt129X: I'd use 14.04 and update to 16.04 afterwards.
[12:16] <Nyt129X> bekks: Seems like I'm goin that path aswell..
[12:16] <rexwin_> what does proxy server do actually?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: first xenial alpha hits 31 december
[12:16] <bekks> rexwin_: It proxies requests for webservers.
[12:17] <Mythikos> hateball Printscreen button isn't working it seems. I don't understand why. It was earlier. This is a fresh OS though too
[12:17] <TJ-> bekks: does 'crontab -e' ignore env VISUAL and EDITOR ?
[12:17] <dionysus69> can anyone please tell me why I cant make gnome grid extension work? It adds worspace horizontally but not vertically
[12:18] <Mythikos> I have Imgur ready and waiting, just need to print screen...
[12:18] <bekks> TJ-: I didnt try it yet, until now I lived with nano for crontab -e
[12:19] <TJ-> bekks: I recall some tool that ignores the env editor vars, but I think it was sudoedit not crontab
[12:19] <bekks> TJ-: crontab -e evaluates VISUAL and EDITOR. How would I go about setting those vars globally?
[12:20] <btorch> morning
[12:20] <hateball> bekks: update-alternatives --config editor
[12:20] <bekks> hateball: thx
[12:20] <TJ-> bekks: "/etc/environment" for system-level or alter the /usr/bin/editor
[12:21] <rexwin_> I installed httpd and squid. how do I whether Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page is served by httpd or squid?
[12:22] <Mythikos> I going to restart my machine. I'm having too many weird little issues
[12:22] <Mythikos> hateball I figured it out
[12:23] <Mythikos> The print screen issue that is
[12:24] <Mythikos> hateball http://i.imgur.com/MkHNB3x.png
[12:24] <Mythikos> Then...
[12:24] <hateball> Mythikos: I am not sure where you see any cost to begin with
[12:24] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/9hF5ASz.png
[12:24] <Mythikos> That one
[12:25] <TJ-> rexwin_: by examining the HTTP response headers
[12:25] <jokx> Hi, a little question : I've installed Ubuntu-Gnome Wily + ppa:gnome3team .. but Eye-Of-Gnome and Evince show me an horrible menu in place of the normal header bars ... I think that modification is done for Unity, but for gnome user : is there a way to recover un-patched application ?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> jokx: maybe the #ubuntu-gnome guys know?
[12:25] <hateball> Mythikos: Well if you buy something for free...
[12:25] <rexwin_> how to find it or where to find it? TJ
[12:25] <Mythikos> As I thought, but...
[12:25] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/ZkBKwxc.png
[12:26] <Mythikos> Directs here
[12:26] <Mythikos> I'm not interested in Ubuntu One in the leasrt
[12:26] <TJ-> rexwin_: in the response from the server
[12:26] <hateball> Mythikos: Alright. To be fair I do not use the software center. You can just run "sudo apt-get install steam" in a terminal
[12:27] <hateball> Mythikos: press tab to move to options, enter to agree. then it will be installed in no time
[12:28] <rexwin_> TJ, which logs
[12:28] <Mythikos> hateball Thank you
[12:28] <rexwin_> accesslog is empty in my server
[12:28] <Mythikos> Terminal never fails me
[12:29] <rexwin_> AH00015: Unable to open logs
[12:29] <TJ-> rexwin_: no logs; the HTTP header returned by the server to the client
[12:30] <Mythikos> hateball It installed alright (or I thought it did) but refuses to launch
[12:30] <Mythikos> Non-responsive. Maybe run it from terminal?
[12:30] <Jakey3> what is the command to deeply format a harddrive from terminal
[12:30] <Jakey3> ?
[12:31] <rexwin_> can you explain, I dont know how to find it?
[12:31] <Mythikos> hateball I cannot get it to respond
[12:32] <Mythikos> I do not know the terminal command either
[12:32] <metaphysician> rexwin_: To see the headers you could use these commands: $ HEAD http://url    or $ curl -I <url>   or $ wget -S -O/dev/null <url>
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: you want to zero the drive with dd?
[12:33] <Jakey3> ye
[12:33] <akxwi_dave> mythikos : you can also go direct to the steam website and download the deb installer there, once its downloaded, it will ask what you want to open it with, choose software center and it will install, another winodw will pop up and ask you to run it, which then goes off and gets the full package and update its self
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: just be carefull right :p http://askubuntu.com/questions/142858/how-to-zero-out-a-drive
[12:33] <Jakey3> ok thanks
[12:34] <hateball> Mythikos: should be able to just run "steam" from the terminal. Start typing steam and press <tab> to see what turns up
[12:35] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/LxbHUGe.png
[12:35] <Mythikos> hateball^
[12:36] <hateball> Mythikos: what GPU do you have? Steam will crap out if you're not using proprietary driver
[12:36] <hateball> Mythikos: if nvidia or ATI you should have them available through the driver installer
[12:37] <rexwin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12902211/
[12:37] <Mythikos> hateball I'll restart and brb
[12:37] <Jakey3> lotuspsychje, how long do you think this will take on a 2tb hdd?
[12:37] <Mythikos> I think I switched from xorg to fglrx without rebooting maybe
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: that might take a while
[12:37] <metaphysician> rexwin_: It's the nginx server replying.
[12:37] <rexwin_> does it says served by squid or apache  ?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: you dont have enough with normal format?
[12:38] <hateball> Mythikos: yes you have to reboot after enabling restricted drivers, as the new modules have to load
[12:38] <zoli> hi. How is it possible to move the search filter to the left side (from right) from the dash?
[12:38] <zoli> it is very non-ergonomic on the right
[12:39] <metaphysician> rexwin_: A better way is to see what programs are listening on what ports: $ sudo netstat -6 -4 -A inet -utevlp
[12:39] <Jakey3> lotuspsychje, im trying to put in raid 1 with 2 hardives in the manual install keeps comming up with error, ive formated diskd a few times but made no difference
[12:39] <Jakey3> no i dd them
[12:39] <Jakey3> see if that changes anything
[12:39] <OerHeks> zoli, not, AFAIK, it is hardcoded.
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> zoli: maybe 16.04 will have it more ergnomic for you, who knows
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> zoli: whats your purpose to search exactly?
[12:40] <Mythikos> hateball Restarted
[12:41] <Mythikos> No difference thus far
[12:41] <metaphysician> rexwin_: wait, I am not sure whether it's proxy server's response or not. But if it is a proxy server, then behind it is nginx, not apache.
[12:41] <hateball> Mythikos: Well, I know next to nothing about ATI drivers. All I know is that Steam will go mad if it doesnt work properly
[12:41] <nfk|laptop> after upgrading to 15.10 (well, kubuntu) gfortran seems to have disappeared from repos
[12:41] <rexwin_> does the header say it is served by squid  ?
[12:42] <Mythikos> Something went wrong here
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> !info gfortran vivid
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> !info gfortran
[12:42] <metaphysician> rexwin_: I am not sure. Find out from the output of the netstat command I gave.
[12:42] <Mythikos> hateball http://i.imgur.com/1GtcTze.png
[12:43] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, is that 15.10?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: seems like wily still has it
[12:43] <nfk|laptop> <--- absolutely hates those names
[12:43] <hateball> Mythikos: as I said I have no idea. I quit using ATI 10 years ago because it sucks on Linux.
[12:43] <rexwin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12902249/
[12:43] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, any ideas why apt-get install gfortran would say it does not exist?
[12:43] <Mythikos> Just had all of this working in Linux Mint 17, so I know it should work
[12:44] <Mythikos> hateball Agreed though'
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: used sudo right?
[12:44] <hateball> Mythikos: Chances are someone else will know tho, if you hang around
[12:44] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, naturally, i got E: Package 'gfortran' has no installation candidate
[12:45] <nfk|laptop> are my repos messed up after upgrade?
[12:45] <Mythikos> hateball Alrighty
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: not sure what happened for you, you sure your on 15.10 right
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> should be
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: rebooted after upgrade? sudo apt-get update perhaps?
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> the upgrade failed the first time as the local server didn't have some packages so i switched to the main server and upgrade went successfully
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> i have done both, multiple times even
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[12:46] <jokx> lotuspsychje: thkx
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> currently switching again from the local to main server
[12:47] <metaphysician> rexwin_: You can read it. E.g. varnishd is running on port 6081. nginx is running on port 80/http. traffic manager is running on port 8080. so on..
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, yeah, it was the server
[12:48] <islandmonkey> Hello, after upgrading to Ubuntu 15.10, X has failed to start and ends up segfaulting. Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12902272/
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> either that or the package is very recent
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> !yay | nfk|laptop
[12:48] <Mythikos> Anyone know about this:
[12:48] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/QJjqsd5.png
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> yeah, i'm glad too
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> it was overall a very smooth upgrade
[12:48] <Mythikos> Cannot get fresh install of Steam to open
[12:48] <rexwin_> squid is running on 8888 and I just started it want to know whether it serves the default apache page\
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: grafix card chipset please?
[12:50] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: Ah yeah, its a Intel HD 3000 + NVIDIA 635M
[12:50] <nfk|laptop> btw, if anyone cares, generally older versions of gfortran should be purged
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: optimus card?
[12:50] <islandmonkey> Yeah
[12:51] <nfk|laptop> apparently if the gfortran version is not 3 or the current gcc minor version, you're in for trouble
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: did you install nvidia-prime?
[12:51] <kwerfguuto> hi guys, Yesterday i've bought acer p553m but i'm not able to install ubuntu on it.
[12:51] <nfk|laptop> which is how i noticed that gfortran was acting up as the package built fine but hadn't been linked against libgfortran silently
[12:51] <metaphysician> rexwin_: squid is running on IPv6 8888 not IPv4.
[12:52] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: No I haven't
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: older versions for other ubuntu versions should still be safe to use
[12:52] <nfk|laptop> and autoremove naturally didn't think it needs to get rid of the older gfortran 4.9
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> !infi nvidia-prime | islandmonkey for optimus cards
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | islandmonkey
[12:52] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, i mean, 15.04 had gcc 4.9 and gfortran 4.9
[12:52] <Mythikos> Anyone understand why this has a "Buy" button instead of an "Install/Uninstall" button? http://i.imgur.com/enHN6R5.png Or why when I try to launch it, it won't respond? http://i.imgur.com/QJjqsd5.png ?
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: after install, enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[12:53] <nfk|laptop> with upgrade to 15.10 gcc 5.something and libgfortan5 got installed but just having that libgfortran4.9 still around messed a build up for me
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> !steam | Mythikos read here first
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: and join the #ubuntu-steam channel, they might be helping more specificly
[12:54] <nfk|laptop> so i purged them all and tried to install just gfortran at which point i found out it did not exist
[12:54] <nfk|laptop> and was starting to have cold sweat
[12:54] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: Should I need to restart after install? I have no access to a GUI with the exception of low graphics mode, but I can't choose any of the options when the low graphics mode dialog shows up
[12:54] <Mythikos> thank you
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: try to install nvidia-prime from recoverymode perhaps? + enable another grafix driver
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: you can check current driver with sudo lshw -C video behind driver=
[12:56] <kwerfguuto> live is blocked before starts
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> !details | kwerfguuto
[12:56] <kwerfguuto> i've ubu 1404 64bit
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | islandmonkey when things go wrong; terminal with internet access
[12:58] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: BTW, I have installed nvidia-prime already -- the current driver in uses the intel drive
[12:59] <Mythikos> No help yet :/
[12:59] <islandmonkey> I have internet access already
[12:59] <islandmonkey> Just no graphics :)
[12:59] <kwerfguuto> i've bought Yesterday asus p553m with win8.1, i've problem with uefi
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: if your card uses the intel, it means its not set on performance mode yet
[12:59] <kwerfguuto> i want delete win and install ubuntu
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: or not using correct nvidia driver version
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: did you disable fastboot and secureboot in bios?
[13:00] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: Hmm, might have to see what's going on in the X config file
[13:01] <kwerfguuto> yes lotuspsychje,
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: we see alot of optimus cards working with nvidia-331 (example) + nvidia-prime
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: IDE chnaged to AHCI?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: can you tell us at wich point exactly liveusb freezes?
[13:02] <kwerfguuto> i don't know
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: doublecheck bios settings= fastboot=off secureboot=off AHCI=enabled
[13:03] <Mythikos> hateball I discovered proprietary software requires 'authentication' in the software manager using Ubuntu One. I found out that getting it from the source directs to Ubuntu and bypasses the Ubuntu One
[13:03] <kwerfguuto> sure, when ubuntu script loaded, i've used a dvd image of ubu 64 bit
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: wich script?
[13:04] <kwerfguuto> lotuspsychje:  now i must exit with my dog i return soon
[13:04] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: I'll restart into recovery mode, brb
[13:05] <kwerfguuto> the starts, when ubuntu is loading
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | kwerfguuto maybe bad dvd?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: do you have an empty usb you could install from?
[13:06] <kwerfguuto> yes lotuspsychje
[13:06] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: Do you mean that the Ubuntu installer isn't bootable by the PC, or do you mean the installer starts booting and then fails?
[13:07] <kwerfguuto> i've done a test with another pc and it works lotuspsychje
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> ok
[13:07] <kwerfguuto> the problem is this laptop
[13:07] <kwerfguuto> asus p553m
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: can you answer TJ- question please
[13:08] <kwerfguuto> starts the live ubuntu, but fails
[13:08] <kwerfguuto> it s blocked
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: at wich point exactly?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: you can see 'try ' and 'install' ubuntu?
[13:09] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: "it's blocked" - do you mean the PC reports an error and refuses to boot from the Ubuntu installer device?
[13:09] <kwerfguuto> the beginning
[13:09] <kwerfguuto> no tj
[13:09]  * lotuspsychje facepalm
[13:10] <kwerfguuto> it appears ubuntu inscription
[13:11] <kwerfguuto> but hangs
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: hangs at the ubuntu logo purple screen?
[13:11] <kwerfguuto> yes
[13:11] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: Thank-you :) Now it makes sense.
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: so the .... dots no moving?
[13:11] <kwerfguuto> the beginning
[13:12] <kwerfguuto> unity doesn't appear
[13:12] <dionysus69> does anyone here use pgadmin3? It crashes no matter where i right click
[13:13] <kwerfguuto> remain the ubuntu inscription with 3 pellets loaded
[13:13] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: Try pressing the 'Esc' key when the purple logo screen first appears; that *should* allow you to see background log messages on the console
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: and come back with the error @ freeze time
[13:14] <kwerfguuto> ok after i try,thanks now i should exit with the dog
[13:25] <sebsebseb> hi
[13:25] <moty66> hello, I have a USB modem which works fine with hyla fax to receive and send, is there any way to use this modem to make a phone call?
[13:29] <absouza> hi
[13:29] <EdwardIII> hey, installing ubuntu server on a machine with a mediatek 802.11 wifi dongle. the installer doesn't offer any wifi options at all?
[13:29] <Nyt129X> d
[13:30] <sebsebseb> EdwardIII: to use as just a  server or?
[13:31] <TJ-> EdwardIII: 'server' expects the system to be wired in for most cases; other times it may need you to provide specific drivers to support hardware the mainline kernel does not have a driver for, or is not in the installer image
[13:36] <thresh> hi. anyone using packer to provision ubuntu 15.10 machines?
[13:44] <nindustries_> Hi, so im logging in my ubuntu 15.10 server as root and I get a message saying unprotected private key, but for ANOTHER user. wtf ?
[13:44] <EdwardIII> TJ-: does the desktop installer come with some automatic wifi probing stuff?
[13:45] <nindustries_> nvm :)
[13:45] <EdwardIII> (i've decided to just grab a cable and wire it for now but i'm interested)
[13:48] <TJ-> EdwardIII: The server installer is 'debian-installer', desktop/live is debian-installer + ubiquity (GUI) and some extra magic on top, and expects to be used on Wifi-based systems, so I think it has more built-in support for a wider range of wifi. For example, it has wpa_supplicant, Network Manager, and so on
[13:48] <OerHeks> !info ntpd wily
[13:48] <OerHeks> !info ntp wily
[13:49] <Joel> #aws
[13:50] <Joel> what packages represent the actual kernel? want to see if a newer version is available.
[13:53] <ulkesh> I plan to upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10 this weekend (from 15.04), is there any specific issue I should watch out for?  I see the virtualbox issue, but it seems there is a workaround.
[13:53] <TJ-> !info linux-image | Joel
[13:53] <TJ-> !info linux-image-generic | Joel
[13:54] <Joel> TJ-, thanks, hitting a wonderful memory issue right now: kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.13.0/mm/memory.c:1838! invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP
[13:54] <EdwardIII> TJ-: ok i'll try that next time if i need to do an install over wifi. thanks
[13:54] <Joel> -fml
[13:55] <TJ-> Joel: ouch!
[13:56] <TJ-> Joel: are you able to capture a screen image of the kernel panic?
[13:57] <Joel> TJ-, yeah, but I'm too lazy to open a bug for it
[13:58] <TJ-> Joel: is the system using BTRFS?
[13:58] <Joel> TJ-, how would I check for that?
[13:59] <TJ-> Joel: the kernel panic stack-trace should mention 'btrfs' if it is directly related; I see 1 bug with a similar failure using BTRFS
[14:01] <syntroPi> Which electronic circuit simulation software is the most complete yet still alive? Any recommendations?
[14:03] <kiwbegunn3324> hi i'm returned, i've done a photo of boot when i've clicked esc
[14:04] <Joel> TJ-, nope, https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/3fdef163518633b4cdbd
[14:04] <kiwbegunn3324> !img
[14:04] <kiwbegunn3324> !paste image
[14:04] <OerHeks> kiwbegunn3324, try imgur.com
[14:04] <OerHeks> !paste
[14:06] <ceed> I have a Ubuntu 15.04 laptop and have a usb drive with two partions. I need to move files from one to the other. Would I have to copy them to my computer first, or can I copy directly from one partition to the other?
[14:06] <Joel> ceed, is there a computer on the external drive? :)
[14:08] <k1l> ceed: you can copy them between the partitions
[14:08] <k1l> no need to save them first on the laptop
[14:09] <Joel> k1l, it's still going through the computer.
[14:09] <TJ-> ceed: the data has to travel to the CPU and be sent out again, so in that sense yes (which halves or more the available transfer speed)
[14:09] <Joel> he wants to copy between without being penalized by the speed of USB
[14:10] <k1l> he talked about copy it to the laptop. and that is not needed.
[14:11] <ceed> So when I plug it in both partitions will be mounted and I can move directly from one to the other? Just want to make sure I do not mess up the drive and files :)
[14:11] <jpds> ceed: Yes
[14:13] <jophish> Is there a way to disable using bright colors for bold text in gnome-terminal?
[14:14] <ceed> jpds, thanks!
[14:20] <chotaz`w> My system hangs trying to boot with Kernel 4.2 after the upgrade, where should I start looking for problems? The system hangs right after unlocking my HDD.
[14:20] <chotaz`w> I've tried syslog and kernel.log but there are no messages for the exact minute where the boot hangs.
[14:21] <fabio> OFFTOPIC: Its possible to open an website on same tab with chrome and terminal?
[14:21] <chotaz`w> you mean changing the header location of a tab from terminal?
[14:22] <fabio> chotaz yeah imagine that the chrome is on techcrunch and you want to open youporn but on same tab :)
[14:23] <money> t
[14:24] <chotaz`w> keep it family friendly fabio. and that is not possible, not with the standard chrome/chromium build.
[14:26] <kiwbegunn3324> guys i've done a photo of the problem
[14:29] <EdwardIII> hrm i've added another interface, "iface eth0:0 inet static" with an address and a netmask entry. then i did /etc/init.d/networking restart, but i don't see the new interface in ifconfig?
[14:31] <streulma> Hello, I'm strugling with Virtualbox and Ubuntu 15.10. I can't install release from virtualbox.org because libvpx1 is missing and is replaced by libvpx2, installing Virtualbox from Ubuntu Software Center is no option for me.
[14:31] <cfhowlett> known bug, no fix yet streulma
[14:32] <kiwbegunn3324> where can i paste the img file?
[14:32] <streulma> cfhowlett and what's the solution for now? Going back to 15.04 and wait for the fix?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> yep
[14:32] <k1l> kiwbegunn3324: imgur.com
[14:33] <kiwbegunn3324> it asks me login
[14:33] <k1l> streulma: or use the 5.0.4 virtualbox from the wiley repo
[14:34] <k1l> kiwbegunn3324: should not ask for it. or use any other imagehoster you can use
[14:34] <streulma> k1l cpusetid does not work
[14:34] <anon2442> hi
[14:35] <kiwbegunn3324> i've done http://imgur.com/ioOt0Vu this is the error
[14:35] <anon2442> is there a system fix for trouble detecting sandisk cruzer glide usb devices?
[14:36] <anon2442> nvm i gtg
[14:36] <jpds> anon2442: Bug number?
[14:36] <anon2442> dont have one
[14:36] <anon2442> sorry
[14:36] <anon2442> after it detects it the first time but you safely remove it, it wont detect it again until you reboot
[14:43] <EdwardIII> it's weird. if i type in "ifconfig eth0:0 <IP_ADDRESS> up" it works fine. if i put almost the exact same lines in my interface file i get nothing
[14:44] <EdwardIII> and don't see any errors in the syslog
[14:44] <zetheroo> is there a way to restart more than one service in the command line?
[14:44] <EdwardIII> kinda confusing
[14:45] <TJ-> EdwardIII: is there also a "auto eth0:0" ?
[14:45] <EdwardIII> TJ-: there is, let me see if i can find something to let me post a file to a pastebin...
[14:45] <TJ-> EdwardIII: when the interface is NOT configured/UP, what does "sudo ifup eth0:0" report ?
[14:46] <TJ-> EdwardIII: "cat /etc/network/interfaces | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:47] <EdwardIII> TJ-: http://termbin.com/25ch
[14:47] <EdwardIII> lovely short ref on the end of that
[14:48] <EdwardIII> TJ-: ifup says Ignoring unknown interface eth0:0=eth0:0.
[14:49] <EdwardIII> oh heh. i tried it again with :1
[14:49] <EdwardIII> aaaand... it works?
[14:49] <EdwardIII> so how come it doesn't load on boot?
[14:50] <TJ-> As I said, try "sudo ifup eth0:1" manually, see what it reports. That's what happens at boot time
[14:50] <EdwardIII> ok this is weird, i rebooted and now it's working
[14:50] <EdwardIII> well, thanks heh