[12:12] <ButteBlues> visik7: Aye, I heard.
[12:12] <ButteBlues> But as far as I knew it was only WoW.
[12:12] <visik7> yes for now
[12:12] <ButteBlues> In either case, I have a legit CD-ROM+key.
[12:12] <visik7> also ppl banned from wow had a legit key
[12:12] <ButteBlues> and I can live with even the campaigns on single player
[12:13] <ButteBlues> I'm just about dying from RTS withdrawal... Wesnoth is addictive, but it doens't have the same feel RTSs do.
[12:13] <bLaZeD> visik7, they do?
[12:13] <visik7> yes they do
[12:13] <bLaZeD> damn
[12:13] <visik7> they sucks
[12:13] <bLaZeD> idsoft is the shiat
[12:13] <doGoFWAR> Blazd I am using wine
[12:13] <bLaZeD> doGoFWAR, may consider using cedgea
[12:14] <doGoFWAR> No money
[12:14] <doGoFWAR> lol
[12:14] <visik7> what idsoft has to do with blizzard ?
[12:14] <bLaZeD> visik7, nothing
[12:14] <visik7> why you blame them ?
[12:14] <bLaZeD> visik7, i dont think so.....just saying they are the shit....as in they are good
[12:15] <bLaZeD> idsoft is great...they have released parts of their source cod for several games
[12:15] <bLaZeD> doGoFWAR, ah
[12:15] <ButteBlues> well I'm sure I could get WC3 to play fine
[12:15] <ButteBlues> if only I could get past installation :*
[12:15] <ButteBlues> There's a .mpq in the Movies folder
[12:15] <ButteBlues> that refuses to transfer
[12:15] <ButteBlues> and results the install dying
[12:16] <ButteBlues> I think it might be borked
[12:16] <ButteBlues> because the other mpqs show up as videos
[12:16] <ButteBlues> but this one, doesn't have a preview at all
[12:16] <rbrunhuber> is the button daemon in feisty missing?
[12:17] <bLaZeD> rbrunhuber, feisty.....isnt there a chan to desucuss  that
[12:17] <bLaZeD> like #ubuntu+1
[12:17] <bLaZeD> or somthing
[12:17] <rbrunhuber> sorry don't know
[12:19] <rbrunhuber> bLaZeD: you are right, thank you for the pointer
[12:19] <gnomefreak> bLaZeD: #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <bLaZeD> rbrunhuber, np man......i just figured no on ein here would know about such new software......maby a selct few...but not alot
[12:21] <Raven301> W00t kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-01 on edgy :)
[12:23] <visik7> Raven301: uh ?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Raven301: not pre-compiled
[12:24] <visik7> self compiled ?
[12:24] <shymz> hi :)
[12:24] <Raven301> visik7: yes
[12:24] <visik7> why ?
[12:25] <Raven301> visik7: why not :)
[12:25] <Raven301> visik7: only takes about 45 min.
[12:25] <visik7> 'couse is useless ?
[12:26] <rbrunhuber> bLaZeD: the ubuntu world is just so big....
[12:26] <bLaZeD> rbrunhuber, thats one of its strong points....is huge following
[12:27] <foxhound31> how do i find out if i have xgl/compiz please
[12:27] <soulrider> !nvidia
[12:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:28] <gnomefreak> foxhound31: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:28] <foxhound31> ok thanks
[12:28] <soulrider> !nvidia
[12:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <soulrider> oops
[12:29] <soulrider> !mp3
[12:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:30] <khirr> one of u can tell me where can i found winamp 3 alpha for linux?
[12:31] <Bubba_Gump> amarok shows track titles to 3 or 4 or 5 seconds, rather than the true length of what they actually are
[12:31] <Bubba_Gump> any way of solving this?
[12:32] <seanieb64> Hi
[12:33] <seanieb64> Can anyone help me? when I turned my computer on this morning, Kubuntu couldnt connect to the internet
[12:33] <seanieb64> I checked the settings, Ethernet was off.
[12:34] <seanieb64> I tried to turn it back on, and it said could not read XML output from network configuration backend, or something like that
[12:35] <ubuntu_> geia sas
[12:35] <LjL> !gr | ubuntu_
[12:35] <ubotu> ubuntu_: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:38] <Ash-Fox> How does one force a specific package to reinstall everything, including a /etc/init.d/script?
[12:38] <LjL> Ash-Fox: usually i'd just remove it with --purge and install again
[12:38] <Ash-Fox> LjL, thankyou very much =)
[12:39] <seanieb64> anyone?
[12:40] <khirr> how can i cancel apt-get?
[12:40] <Ash-Fox> ctrl + c
[12:40] <fdoving> ctrl-c
[12:40] <khirr> thanks
[12:40] <LjL> *don't* do it unless it's just downloading
[12:41] <fdoving> it's always safe to do it.
[12:41] <LjL> if you do it while it's installing, khirr, you might end up in trouble
[12:41] <Bubba_Gump> amarok shows song lengths (mp3s) shorter than the track itself, any chance of a fix ?
[12:41] <fdoving> apt-get is buildt to be safe.
[12:41] <seanieb64> how can I fix this error when trying to start the eth0 inerface: could not read XML output from network configuration backend, or very close to that?
[12:41] <Ash-Fox> Bubba_Gump, amarok doesn't do that here.
[12:41] <LjL> fdoving: perhaps it's supposed to...
[12:41] <Bubba_Gump> heh, well, it does here
[12:42] <Bubba_Gump> i have, there is a bug recorded
[12:42] <Bubba_Gump> four months ago
[12:42] <soulrider> i got a really important issue
[12:42] <soulrider> my friend just insatlled edgy
[12:42] <soulrider> but nothing that uses kdesu seems to work
[12:42] <Ash-Fox> soulrider, tried restarting?
[12:43] <soulrider> adept wont open for him
[12:43] <soulrider> and i told him to do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in runc ommand and the password window wont pop up
[12:43] <soulrider> any ideas?
[12:43] <soulrider> yes
[12:43] <soulrider> he restarted
[12:43] <Ash-Fox> (I've seen that issue when x authentication files get messed during X reconfigurations.. but that happening after a restart.. uhm. No.)
[12:45] <soulrider> when he tries to run adept
[12:45] <soulrider> he sees the thingy bouncing
[12:45] <soulrider> but it never opens
[12:45] <seanieb64> the icon by the cursor?
[12:46] <soulrider> yup
[12:46] <seanieb64> Did you have him check the logs?
[12:46] <soulrider> hes newbie
[12:46] <kevman> How do I change which mixer my laptop volume buttons move?
[12:46] <soulrider> if i tell him to check the logs
[12:46] <soulrider> he will kill me :P
[12:46] <seanieb64> Uhm, Why
[12:46] <seanieb64> ?
[12:47] <soulrider> he deosnt geta long with computers so mcuh
[12:47] <soulrider> he asked mea bout linux
[12:47] <sdlnxgk> Need some  help !!!
[12:47] <soulrider> because his comp was FULL of spyware and viruses
[12:47] <soulrider> sdlnxgk: whats up
[12:47] <sdlnxgk> cdrom will mount but can't see results
[12:47] <Dr_willis> gee.. there needs to be a Public education program to help all these windows users deal with spyware and virusi.
[12:47] <Dr_willis> "just say Linux!"
[12:48] <soulrider> yea lol
[12:48] <soulrider> iw as gonna say that
[12:48] <seanieb64> N00bs anonymous.
[12:48] <soulrider> hjahaha
[12:48] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis  there is it's called Linux :)
[12:48] <Dr_willis> Lesson #1 - No you do NOT need to run executables to install 'wallpaper and themes' for your instant messenger program
[12:48] <sdlnxgk> how can I reinstall a cdrom??
[12:48] <soulrider> haha
[12:49] <soulrider> Dr_willis:  whats an exceutable? they ask
[12:49] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  that makes no sence. clarify what you are trying to do.
[12:49] <fyrmedic> how do I ls 1 page at a time without scrolling through everything
[12:49] <fyrmedic> ?
[12:49] <chx> fyrmedic: ls |less
[12:49] <fyrmedic> thanx
[12:49] <Dr_willis> linux 101 :)
[12:49] <soulrider> like dir /p in  DOS? :P
[12:49] <chx> which MP3 play is recommended under Kubuntu if I used winamp and beep-media-player (xmms derivation) before?
[12:49] <seanieb64> sdlnxgk: a CD? or a CD-rom driver?
[12:49] <soulrider> ive been using this for 5 months, but i consider myself a BIG n00b
[12:49] <seanieb64> There are no CD-ROM drive drivers
[12:49] <Dr_willis> chx,  amarok is very popular
[12:50] <seanieb64> I myself like XMMS.
[12:50] <seanieb64> Amarok is nice though
[12:50] <sdlnxgk> seanieb54 I did a stupid thing and deleted the cdrom directory
[12:50] <seanieb64> O_o
[12:50] <seanieb64> Uhm.
[12:50] <seanieb64> Well...
[12:50] <sdlnxgk> never  thought it was doing anything
[12:50] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  you are refering to the /media/cdrom directory?
[12:50] <sdlnxgk> no
[12:51] <seanieb64> what did you delete?
[12:51] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis refering to /cdrom
[12:51] <Dr_willis> hmm do i even have a /cdrom?
[12:51] <seanieb64> The CD's shortut on the desktop?
[12:51] <zorba64> so remake it
[12:51] <sdlnxgk> the /media/cdrom0 is still  there
[12:51] <seanieb64> Pop the disk out and put it back in.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> ls -l /cdrom
[12:51] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2006-10-20 09:24 /cdrom -> media/cdrom
[12:51] <Dr_willis>  /cdrom is just a softr link to /media/cdrom    remake it.
[12:51] <sdlnxgk> I made a shortcut on desktop and it loads but doesn't show contents of the cdrom
[12:52] <seanieb64> Take out the CD
[12:52] <seanieb64> Delete the shortcut
[12:52] <seanieb64> Put the CD back in
[12:52] <sdlnxgk> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-06-15 11:06 cdrom0
[12:52] <seanieb64> Ubuntu will make you an icon on the desktop.
[12:52] <seanieb64> The CD is there.
[12:52] <seanieb64> Go to the system menu
[12:53] <seanieb64> click home folder, then on the sidebar click click removable media
[12:53] <seanieb64> it should be in there.
[12:53] <seanieb64> Oops
[12:53] <seanieb64> Click in the system menu, Removable media
[12:53] <sdlnxgk> looking now
[12:54] <sdlnxgk> I don't see removable media as an option
[12:54] <chx> Dr_willis: and is there something that gives amaroK a winamp look-and-feel?
[12:55] <chx> Dr_willis: or is it time for me to relearn my old habits? :)
[12:55] <sdlnxgk> but I do see /dev/hda under disk and filesystems
[12:55] <seanieb64> go into that then
[12:55] <seanieb64> do you see cdrom?
[12:55] <sdlnxgk> yes
[12:55] <seanieb64> click there
[12:55] <seanieb64> there are the cd contents
[12:55] <sdlnxgk> I see it but it's not enabled like the hard drives are
[12:57] <sdlnxgk> hmmm it's saying there is no mount point
[12:59] <sdlnxgk> will not let me modify it
[12:59] <sdlnxgk> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:02] <sdlnxgk> still can't enable the cdrom
[01:03] <soulrider> is there a way to reinstall kdesu? =/
[01:04] <LjL> soulrider: it's in the kdebase-bin package
[01:06] <soulrider> k
[01:06] <soulrider> is it safe to reinstall that package ?
[01:06] <LjL> every package should be safe to reinstall. "sudo apt-get reinstall kdebase-bin". though i'm not sure how that'd help
[01:07] <soulrider> dunno
[01:07] <soulrider> maybe it helps
[01:07] <soulrider> my friend gets this error when doing kdesu <application> from a consola
[01:07] <soulrider> !pastebin
[01:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <jackq> is it possible to, reset adept manager? says it wont load cache
[01:08] <soulrider> LjL: he gets this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32851/
[01:08] <soulrider> jackq: use CLI ?
[01:09] <jackq> CLI ?
[01:09] <soulrider> command line
[01:09] <jackq> oh yeah
[01:09] <soulrider> cli is just faster than adept
[01:10] <soulrider> whata re you trying to do ?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> chx,  i get the stuff playing and i just let it play for hrs on end.. :) interface means very littel to me.
[01:10] <jackq> i was trying to install vlc, said something about universe respository, so i edited the source
[01:11] <jackq> don't think i did it right
[01:11] <Dr_willis> !repos
[01:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:11] <Dr_willis> !universe
[01:11] <sgorilla78> is there a good comparison between kde and gnome?
[01:11] <LjL> soulrider: check the permissions and owner of ~/.Xauthority perhaps
[01:11] <Dr_willis> sgorilla78,  use each one for a while :)
[01:11] <jackq> doing apt-get update, gives me : Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[01:12] <jackq> couldn't i just edit the list in a tex editor?
[01:12] <jackq> text*
[01:12] <LjL> soulrider: owner and group should be the user's (not root), and permissions should be rw for the owner and nothing for the others
[01:12] <soulrider> LjL: its my friend, he just isnatlled kubuntu
[01:12] <soulrider> and nothing that uses kdesu works for him
[01:12] <soulrider> should he do: sudo chmod +X ~/.Xauthority ?
[01:13] <ironfroggy> i am so lost. does anyone know of documentation on what the grub stages actually mean?
[01:13] <LjL> soulrider: i don't know what +X is honestly
[01:13] <ironfroggy> as in "if it gets to this stage, these things might be wrong but these things are definately working" etc.
[01:13] <LjL> soulrider: what i'd do is "sudo chown hisusername:hisusername ~/.Xauthority ; sudo chmod u=rw ~/.Xauthority"
[01:15] <soulrider> k, lets see if it works
[01:15] <ubuntu__> hello all
[01:16] <dan14> is anyone here?
[01:16] <sgorilla78> yes
[01:16] <dan14> i have a question that i am sure has been answered many times before, but i have tried to follow the howto's that i have found and none of them seem to work
[01:17] <dan14> i have a dell e1505 with an intel ipw3945 wireless card, and i cannot get the wireless to work
[01:18] <mefisto_> I'm trying to install ati driver following howto @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910 but I get stuck at the "create .deb packages" stage. After doing ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper I get an error: permission denied. I'm doing this as root, and the file is not read-only, so I don't understand what the error is about.
[01:18] <dan14> i have tried to install the ieee80211 tar but i am not sure if i am doing it correctly, or if that step is even necessary
[01:18] <dan14> create the root account and make sure you run su to fully switch to root, not just sudo
[01:18] <sgorilla78> dan14: does that card need firmware?
[01:18] <sgorilla78> sudo su -
[01:18] <sgorilla78> that will work also
[01:19] <klove> i can't get to apt-get install proftpd
[01:19] <dan14> i am not sure what you mean... i had wireless working in slackware when i installed the drivers from intel
[01:20] <sgorilla78> dan14: you modprobed the drivers?
[01:20] <dan14> right now, i can run the wireless assistant and it accurately scans for networks, but it seems like it times out before it gets an ip
[01:20] <dan14> no i have not
[01:20] <dan14> i would but i am on the live cd right now
[01:20] <sgorilla78> i have never used the ubuntu live cd
[01:21] <dan14> i just booted it because i was planning to redo the install
[01:21] <sgorilla78> i have never used any of the wireless assistant stuff
[01:21] <sgorilla78> i would try using iwconfig
[01:21] <sgorilla78> and use tshark to debug it
[01:21] <dan14> tshark?
[01:21] <sgorilla78> formally called ethereal/tethereal
[01:22] <dan14> i tried iwconfig eth1 (my wireless) essid linksys. it was then associated but i do not know the command in ubuntu for dhcpcd equivalent
[01:22] <dan14> ic
[01:22] <sgorilla78> oh
[01:22] <sgorilla78> dhclient3 eth1
[01:23] <sgorilla78> that should be the best program to do it
[01:23] <sgorilla78> for ubuntu
[01:23] <dan14> ok... i will try it, just a sec
[01:24] <soulrider> LjL: that didnt work
[01:24] <LjL> soulrider: then i don't know. google didn't help either
[01:24] <unix_infidel> you're trying to setup wireless?
[01:24] <dan14> yes
[01:24] <soulrider> aww damn
[01:24] <soulrider> im trying ot get my friend out of windows
[01:24] <unix_infidel> dan14: what card?
[01:24] <soulrider> bu tthis isnt helping
[01:25] <dan14> unix_infidel: intel ipw3945
[01:25] <soulrider> adept isnt opening
[01:25] <soulrider> which is NOT cool
[01:25] <dan14> dhclient3 failed
[01:25] <soulrider> in fact, nothing with kdesi opens
[01:25] <unix_infidel> you've installed the drivers?
[01:25] <soulrider> kdesu*
[01:25] <dan14> it tried to get an ip but it only sent to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:25] <unix_infidel> give me the output of dmesg | grep ipw in pastebin
[01:25] <unix_infidel> erm, `dmesg | grep ipw` without the backticks in pastebin please.
[01:25] <unix_infidel> !pastebin
[01:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:25] <sgorilla78> dan14: output tshark -i eth1 in pastebin also
[01:26] <dan14> unix_infidel: i am not sure if they are installed correctly... never used ubuntu before, i am able to scan for networks and it tries to connect but fails
[01:26] <unix_infidel> dan14: well, lets make sure we know that the hardware is operational first with the dmesg command.
[01:26] <dan14> sgorrilla: how do i do that>
[01:26] <dan14> ?
[01:26] <sgorilla78> apt-get install wireshark
[01:27] <dan14> thank you all very much, i am going to boot into kubuntu quickly (from the live cd)
[01:27] <dan14> will be right back
[01:27] <dan14> i dont want to fix this on the live cd and have it not work on the real kernel
[01:27] <sgorilla78> ok
[01:27] <LjL> soulrider: i'd try creating a new user, making it a member of admin, and seeing if that one works
[01:27] <soulrider> good idea
[01:27] <uksprout> hello all I have a problem that I think is a video config problem, I cannot see video output on my tv however I can see the boot up, desktop and all applications, I have troed kaffeine and vlc players but all I get is a blue screen in both of them
[01:28] <LjL> soulrider: somehow i still think that .Xauthority is messed up
[01:29] <uksprout> OS is mepis 6.0 video driver is nvidia legacy and I have sound just no picture
[01:30] <dan14> i am back, thanks for waiting
[01:30] <Kr4t05> uksprout: We don't support mepis.
[01:30] <Kr4t05> uksprout: This is a Kubuntu channel.
[01:30] <dan14> ok, i will do a dmesg and look for wireless
[01:30] <soulrider> LjL: he cant edit suers ebcause kdesu isnt working
[01:30] <soulrider> unless theres a way of doing it from the CLI
[01:31] <soulrider> were screwed =/
[01:31] <LjL> soulrider: course there is. "sudo visudo"
[01:31] <uksprout> I understand that I was hoping that this was a general linux problem that someone might know the fix for as I have been trying to get help in a mepis chatroom all day and nothing
[01:31] <soulrider> whats that ?
[01:31] <Kr4t05> uksprout: What format are you trying to play?
[01:32] <soulrider> LjL: can you guide me through it ?
[01:32] <uksprout> divx it shows on the pc monitor fine
[01:32] <LjL> soulrider, just type "sudo visudo" and nano (assuming it's the default editor) will open up with /etc/sudoers ready to be edited
[01:32] <soulrider> it did
[01:33] <LjL> soulrider: anyway wait a moment, why are you editing sudoers anyway?
[01:33] <soulrider> you just told me lol
[01:33] <RawSewage> Is there ANY way to record Skype?
[01:33] <soulrider> to create a new user
[01:33] <RawSewage> Kraken doesnt work
[01:33] <soulrider> since we cant use the GUI
[01:33] <LjL> soulrider: uh, yeah, but i didn't tell you to edit sudoers
[01:33] <soulrider> =/
[01:33] <LjL> soulrider: "sudo adduser <username>" is the command to add a user
[01:33] <soulrider> will that user be admin ?
[01:34] <dan14> i just did a dmesg and it doesnt have anything about ipw and the only ieee reference it makes is ieee1394
[01:34] <SperMite> why won't chown let me change the ownership of /media/iso?
[01:34] <ubuntu__> hola
[01:34] <ubuntu__> buenas noches
[01:34] <LjL> soulrider: no, you have to make it later. "sudo adduser <username> <group>" will make <username> a member of group <group>
[01:34] <soulrider> buenas
[01:34] <soulrider> !es
[01:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:34] <LjL> soulrider: which specifically, means you type "sudo adduser <username> admin"
[01:34] <soulrider> but thats hte admin usergroup, admin ?
[01:34] <soulrider> great
[01:34] <soulrider> what about the password?
[01:35] <LjL> soulrider: it will be asked by adduser
[01:35] <dan14> ubuntu_infidel: i do not see anything in dmesg for it to work
[01:35] <soulrider> cool, thanks
[01:35] <dan14> in this kernel it does not see the device
[01:36] <dan14> unix_infidel: i do not see anything in dmesg for it to work, this kernel seems not to recognise it
[01:36] <uksprout> Kr4t05: a lot of the packages are marked as lubuntu
[01:36] <soulrider> LjL: he gets an error that that user doesnt exist
[01:36] <unix_infidel> dan14: did you modprobe the drivers?
[01:36] <soulrider> i tried it
[01:36] <soulrider> and i get it too
[01:36] <LjL> soulrider: uh?
[01:36] <unix_infidel> i'm not sure which version you are using or which kernel.
[01:36] <dan14> unix: how do i do that? modprobe ipw?
[01:36] <soulrider> we both did
[01:37] <soulrider> sudo adduser alex admin
[01:37] <dan14> it is 2.6.18
[01:37] <soulrider> and we get an error saying alex doesnt exist
[01:37] <LjL> soulrider, *first* you need to type "sudo adduser <username>", and go through the questions. then *later* you type "sudo adduser <username> admin"
[01:37] <soulrider> ahhh
[01:37] <soulrider> thanks
[01:37] <Schalken> has anyone gotten apollon to work?
[01:37] <LjL> soulrider: it's the same command name, but the first syntax creates an user; the second syntax adds an existing user to a group
[01:38] <dan14> unix: modprobe has ipw, ipw2100, ipw2200 available
[01:40] <ahmeni> which package in apt contains the keyboard layouts?
[01:41] <dan14> unix_infidel: modprobe has ipw, ipw2100, and ipw2200 available
[01:41] <unix_infidel> dan14: like i said i have no idea what hardware you're using, which version of ubuntu, which kernel, etc etc.
[01:42] <dan14> unix_infidel: it is ipw3945 intel, 2.6.18 vanilla core, kubuntu 6.10
[01:42] <unix_infidel> dan14: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[01:43] <dan14> unix_infidel: will do
[01:43] <unix_infidel> then modprobe ipw3945; then iwconfig [interface name]  essid [Your ESSID Here]
[01:43] <unix_infidel> then dhclient [interface name]
[01:43] <unix_infidel> its really pretty straightforward :P
[01:43] <dan14> unix_infidel: for some reason it isnt finding that module
[01:44] <unix_infidel> dan14: you've got linux-restricted-modules installed?
[01:44] <dan14> unix_infidel: i agree, thats why im starting to like ubuntu much more than slackware
[01:44] <dan14> unix_infidel: i dont believe so
[01:44] <soulrider> LjL:  he gets login failed when trying to use his new user
[01:44] <unix_infidel> dan14: like i said follow my instructions EXACTly, install what i said, and perform the commands in $TERM (as root)
[01:44] <unix_infidel> or with sudo prefix
[01:45] <LjL> soulrider: uhm, that doesn't sound good you know. tried from the display manager, or from a console?
[01:45] <dan14> unix_infidel: i am typing: (as root) apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[01:45] <soulrider> display managed
[01:45] <soulrider> i told him to restrt X
[01:45] <soulrider> and then relogin
[01:45] <unix_infidel> dan14: make sure you have the proper repos , to be honest, im' not sure where linux-restricted-modules is.
[01:46] <dan14> unix_infidel: i get the error: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[01:46] <dan14> i will check what repos i am using
[01:46] <unix_infidel> I'm on windows currently :P
[01:46] <dan14> lol
[01:46] <dan14> do you remember where the repo file is?
[01:46] <dan14> i will just go and uncomment all of them
[01:47] <ahmeni> sweet!
[01:48] <ahmeni> i have no layouts because /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst points to a file that doesn't exist!
[01:56] <jackq> hmm, installed vlc plugin for firefox, but still cant view wmv's on websites
[01:59] <mefisto_> still trying to get my ati driver installed, it begins uncompressing the downloaded file, then stops with: "Extraction failed. Signal caught, cleaning up" Same error for two different versions of the driver file
[01:59] <Dr_willis> jackq,  a lot of wmv's can use codecs that vlc cant handle, or you dont have the codecs installed.. or you may want to try a downloader tool for firefox to download the video and play it outside of firefox.
[02:01] <mefisto_> jackq: I use the mozilla mplayer plugin, wmv files work fine in firefox for me
[02:01] <jackq> ah, ill give it a try thanks!
[02:05] <mefisto_> "Extraction failed. Signal caught, cleaning up" What is doing the extracting? Trying to understand what it is that is failing
[02:06] <Dr_willis> sounds like a currupted download/package file.
[02:08] <mefisto_> but the same error with two different downloads?
[02:08] <Hawkwind> Maybe the package is corrupted
[02:08] <BetaCookies> yay
[02:08] <BetaCookies> its burning ^_^
[02:09] <mefisto_> also, when it begins extracting, it does an archive integrity check, always passes
[02:09] <jackq> mplayer plugin works with firefox 2?
[02:10] <mefisto_> jackq: I have 1.5, don't know if it works for 2
[02:11] <jackq> ah
[02:11] <mefisto_> I think I used automatix to install it
[02:12] <jackq> what is automatix?
[02:12] <kawsy> Anyone know the answer to this?  I was using gnome with twinview and switched to kde. In gnome, screen redraws were really smooth but in kde, moving windows and everything is choppy.. 3d acceleration and video are fine though
[02:13] <Kr4t05> kawsy: KDE typically takes more robust hardware, it never seems noticale to most, but you could be a unique case.
[02:14] <LjL> !automatix | jackq
[02:14] <ubotu> jackq: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[02:14] <kawsy> hmm.. its a dual core amd with geforce 6800 pci-e.. I've used kde for years on much less
[02:15] <Kr4t05> kawsy: LOL, that shouldn't be a problem, then.
[02:15] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[02:15] <kawsy> It's bizarre
[02:15] <jackq> oh, well i guess i'll just wait till mplayer comes to ff2
[02:15] <mefisto_> automatix is strongly discouraged?
[02:16] <Kr4t05> mefisto_: It breaks things.
[02:17] <Dr_willis> very very very strongly discouraged
[02:17] <mefisto_> OK, but I tried installing things without it and I break things. Then I reinstalled kubuntu and used automatix, no problems. I'm just surprised to hear it's discouraged
[02:17] <Dr_willis> im suprised you break things..
[02:18] <mefisto_> I don't know what I'm doing
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. time to read and learn i guess. :)
[02:19] <mefisto_> read what?
[02:19] <Dr_willis> wiki/forums/guides
[02:19] <Dr_willis> apt docs. ect...
[02:19] <Dr_willis> depends on what/how you are breaking things.
[02:20] <mefisto_> yeah, that doesn't help me much. I get conflicting info
[02:20] <mefisto_> I might have to pick up one of those ubuntu books
[02:21] <Dr_willis> depends on what you are installing, figure out what you are breaking. :)  or cheat. Heh...
[02:21] <Homer> will KDE4 come bundled with Duke Nukem Forever?
[02:21] <Dr_willis> but in the long run its worth while to learn the basics/fundamentals and how to do things yourself.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> Homer,  comming out the day befor.
[02:21] <BetaCookies> Homer lolol
[02:27] <jackq> anyone know kpdf's directory?
[02:30] <gupta> deb http://repos.knio.it/ sarge main contrib - is this a correct repo for dapper?
[02:30] <gupta> It is supposed to be some kde-repo
[02:31] <Jucato> no
[02:31] <Jucato> sarge = Debian stable
[02:31] <gupta> another one is== deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib
[02:31] <Jucato> breezy = release 5.10, 2 releases old
[02:32] <gupta> k
[02:32] <sgorilla78> what source do you need to add to get win32codecs
[02:32] <gupta> So any otehr kde-apps repo for dapper
[02:32] <Jucato> sgorilla78: you donwload it directly
[02:32] <sgorilla78> for mplayer
[02:32] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:32] <Dr_willis> i go to the mplayer homepage and download it.
[02:32] <Jucato> ah for mplayer?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> its for all the players. :)
[02:32] <Jucato> hehe :)
[02:33] <Jucato> sgorilla78: that RestrictedFormats link has instructions on how to donwload and install w32codecs
[02:34] <sgorilla78> Jucato: cool, thanks
[02:34] <sgorilla78> seems like ubuntu makes it easy to setup
[02:35] <charlie5> hulloo ... the last few weeks, when the adept auto-updater icon appears in my sys tray, and i click on it ... it d/l's the packages lists but then says there are no updates and  'goodbye' ... ?
[02:35] <charlie5> any idea what might cause this ?
[02:35] <sgorilla78> is totem supposed to be good
[02:35] <charlie5> ... or how to fix it ? ...  :)
[02:35] <sgorilla78> why is totem default instead of something like vlc or mplayer
[02:36] <Dr_willis> totem plays most everything for me.
[02:36] <Jucato> totem is the default on Ubuntu
[02:36] <Dr_willis> kaffine is kubuntu
[02:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:41] <Makro2> 24 hrs trying to do an bootable hard disk image from a partition
[02:42] <Makro2> this is so frustrating
[02:42] <Dr_willis>  interesting...
[02:48] <unix_infidel> Makro2: why not just use mondo / mini.
[02:48] <unix_infidel> :P
[02:48] <Dr_willis> mondo/mindi is handy
[02:48] <cecko> hello, could anybody help me with Konsole, please?
[02:49] <unix_infidel> cecko: sure, ask a more specific question.
[02:49] <Makro2> unix_infidel: mondo/mini?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> !info mondo
[02:49] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[02:49] <mefisto_> can someone help me understand what this error means: ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run: ./ati-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[02:50] <soulrider> !pastebin
[02:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:50] <Dr_willis> try 'bash whateverinstaller.sh'   you are runing it with sudo?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> I just use the repo packages to instal the ati drivers
[02:50] <cecko> unix_infidel: using Partimage (after I finally found that I have to run it in shell :) I can't figure out how to check/uncheck the options in it
[02:51] <mefisto_> Dr_willis: the repo versions don't work well for me. I'm trying to install the driver from ati.com
[02:51] <Makro2> can i make a bootable hard disk image from a partition with mondo?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> yes.. you can make a live cd/set that boots/restores
[02:52] <mefisto_> Dr_willis: do you have tvout working?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> mefisto_,  i was thinking that it worked with the repo veriions.
[02:52] <soulrider> !easysource
[02:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:57] <cecko> doesnt anybody know how to check the options in Partimage (or any other program running in the shell with that blue interface looking just like a DOS app)?
[02:57] <Makro2> i just wanna make an hd image from a partition with an older filesystem to boot it using qemu
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Makro2, Hmm.. can proiberly dd it to a file, but not sure what qemu can read.
[03:01] <Makro2> dr_willis: that the thing
[03:01] <Makro2> that`s
[03:01] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how can i add a new window decorations ?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> kde-look.org :)
[03:02] <Makro2> dr_willis: i know qemu can read raw files
[03:02] <mefisto_> ok, I've managed to get past my errors. I moved the installer from my windows partition to the kubuntu home directory. Was I getting errors because of permissions on the windows partition?
[03:04] <Dr_willis> moved what installer?
[03:05] <ghostshadow189> Dr_willis , i downloaded a window decorations file , but in this .tar file there all of .png file , so where should i extract them ?
[03:05] <nyt> gud morning
[03:06] <nyt> it's morning here : 10 am
[03:06] <nyt> dr willis where you from ?
[03:06] <Dr_willis> Indiana - its 9:00pm here
[03:07] <nyt> whew!
[03:07] <nyt> ok!
[03:07] <nyt> i'm from phil ;)
[03:07] <paulw> marengo, IN here.
[03:07] <nyt> do you watch pacquiao- morales match
[03:07] <Dr_willis> ghostshadow189,  many themes for window decorations are compiled/installed. then theres special theme data files for specific themeable themes. :)
[03:07] <nyt> ?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> nyt,  no clue what that even is/was heh...
[03:08] <Jucato> yeah. we won! :)
[03:08] <Dr_willis> that was a Chess Match right?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:08] <Jucato> lol
[03:09] <ghostshadow189> dr_willis , i found that style has folder /usr/share.........../kstyle , or theme manager is kthememanager , so wat folder of window decoration ?
[03:09] <nyt> no it's  boxing match
[03:09] <nyt> =))
[03:09] <nyt> :-)
[03:09] <nyt> :D
[03:09] <nyt> i have a question
[03:09] <nyt> a ms access file
[03:09] <Dr_willis> ghostshadow189,  they get compiled go someplace..  if theres no source to compile.. id advise reading on the  themes homepage/docs
[03:10] <nyt> i transfer it to open office database :(
[03:10] <nyt> i want it to open in open office databasse
[03:10] <nyt> but
[03:10] <nyt> i can't  see my file :((
[03:10] <nyt> what will i do ?
[03:11] <cchris> anybody home
[03:11] <Dr_willis> Mooo!
[03:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:11] <cchris> so what is this place about
[03:12] <cchris> I just clicked on konversation
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu support...
[03:12] <Dr_willis> heh
[03:12] <cchris> and here I am
[03:12] <cchris> great
[03:12] <nyt> i have a question
[03:12] <nyt> a ms access file
[03:12] <cchris> yes
[03:12] <nyt> i transfer it to open office database :(
[03:12] <nyt> i want it to open in open office databasse
[03:12] <nyt> i can't  see my file :((
[03:13] <cchris> how do you configure samba
[03:13] <nyt> what will i do ?
[03:13] <cchris> between kubuntu and win98
[03:13] <Darko> can some one tell me how to modify xorg.conf
[03:13] <Dr_willis> sudo editoryoulike /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <Dr_willis> Backup the original first....
[03:14] <Darko> how to backup ?
[03:14] <ReporterX> hi all!
[03:14] <Dr_willis> cp command..
[03:14] <Darko> sorry i am a newbie
[03:14] <Dr_willis> if you dont know the basics of the shell... you may want to research that befor editing the xorg.conf
[03:14] <ReporterX> i would like to disable the anti-aliasing efect on gtk fonts. This is possible on kubuntu
[03:14] <ReporterX> ?
[03:14] <Darko> i know what to put in
[03:15] <cchris> so has anyone had any luck with samba
[03:15] <cchris> connecting to win98
[03:15] <Dr_willis> cchris,  never had any issues with it.
[03:15] <cecko> talking about support: how can I please tick the boxes in the blue DOSish program running in Konsole?
[03:15] <Darko> i have ati card with frxgl
[03:15] <cchris> then something is wrong on my end
[03:15] <Dr_willis> the use of encrypted/non encrypted passwords can be an issue with samba and some versions of windows
[03:15] <cchris> hmmm
[03:16] <Dr_willis> you are trying to see win98 shares?
[03:16] <Dr_willis> or get win98 to see linux shares?
[03:16] <cchris> yep
[03:16] <cecko> [X]  Check partition before saving
[03:16] <cchris> the network works perfectly
[03:16] <cchris> with winxp and win98
[03:16] <cecko> [ ]  Check partition before saving   <--- I can't get it into this state!
[03:17] <cchris> no I am trying to access win from linux
[03:17] <cchris> the scan shows diddly
[03:17] <Dr_willis> could try out the smbfuse fileystem stuff, or smb4k or some other samba browsers.
[03:17] <cecko> ( ) Bzip2 (.bz2: very slow + very small image file)  --(?)-->  (X) Bzip2 (.bz2: very slow + very small image file)    How do I do it, please???
[03:17] <Dr_willis> or try mountign the shares directly
[03:17] <cchris> i tried the smb4k
[03:18] <cchris> maybe the smbfuse
[03:18] <cchris> thanks
[03:18] <Dr_willis> smb4k works nicely for me. :)
[03:18] <cchris> It has for me too in the past
[03:19] <cchris> the win98 machine dual boots to xubuntu
[03:19] <Dr_willis> i dont even have a win98 machine to test :)
[03:19] <cchris> hehe
[03:19] <Dr_willis> youve had  linux->win98 working befor>?
[03:19] <cchris> no
[03:20] <cchris> linux and xp
[03:20] <cchris> both machines dual boot
[03:20] <Dr_willis> may want to check the samba config then and  try the encrypted password settings.
[03:20] <Dr_willis> or set up a public share on the win98 box with no password.
[03:20] <Dr_willis> see if that works.
[03:20] <Dr_willis>  then you know if its a password issue IF it works.
[03:20] <cchris> the win 98 doesn't have a password
[03:20] <ReporterX> it's possible to disable anti-aliasing efect on gtp applications fonts ?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> You may want to make one for it then.
[03:21] <Dr_willis> i seem to recall having to do little tricks to get win98 working right that way
[03:21] <cchris> will that help
[03:21] <drbreen> lol win98 is worse than no operating system
[03:21] <Dr_willis> I always made a user, and password )then had tweakui auto login
[03:21] <ReporterX> gtp = gtk
[03:21] <cchris> winxp ain't so swell either
[03:21] <Dr_willis> ReporterX,  you want to disalble AA  Just for gtk apps and keep it for KDE apps?
[03:22] <Motorhead> hai
[03:22] <Dr_willis> keh!
[03:22] <cchris> where would I find the encrypted password
[03:22] <Dr_willis> they say Keh a lot.
[03:22] <ReporterX> yes... it's possible ?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> its a samba config file setting to use them or to not use them. IF you got no user/password on the win98 box.. not sure why it would even matter.
[03:23] <Dr_willis> ReporterX,  i cant think of any reson to  even  do that. :)  heh..  could set the gnome-theme stuff to disable it.. that may disable it for gnome apps.
[03:24] <cchris> will Kubuntu install on a pentium 2 350 mhz
[03:24] <drbreen> cchris: ram ?
[03:24] <cchris> 250
[03:25] <Dr_willis> ive installed on a Pent I - 100, wth 32mb of ram...
[03:25] <cchris> cool
[03:25] <Dr_willis> took forever.. :) but it ran. I just used the console however.
[03:25] <drbreen> and kde ?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> a littel SSH box.
[03:25] <ReporterX> Dr_willies: ok... i'm using tahoma 8 font on my desktop, and this font best view is with anti-aliasing off.
[03:25] <drbreen> what does kde feels like with only 32 mb ram ?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> a light weight window manager would be best.
[03:25] <drbreen> swapswapswapswapswap ?
[03:25] <cchris> I am thinking about going to linux entirely
[03:26] <cchris> i need to get everyone acclimated
[03:26] <cchris> first
[03:26] <Dr_willis> for that small of a machine. you may want to set it up as a X client/Xterminal to just display a X session on another bigger machine
[03:26] <drbreen> cchris tried xubuntu already ?
[03:26] <cchris> yep
[03:26] <drbreen> and ?
[03:26] <cchris> it works ok
[03:26] <drbreen> why not use xubuntu ?
[03:26] <cchris> I could
[03:27] <Motorhead> xubuntu?
[03:27] <drbreen> kde is too bloated for >8 year old devices
[03:27] <cchris> but I thought I could try kubuntu
[03:27] <cchris> oh
[03:27] <drbreen> motorhead: xubuntu =ubuntu w/o gnome but with xfce4
[03:27] <cchris> darn
[03:27] <Motorhead> ohh, thnx
[03:27] <drbreen> cchris: i assume it would run, though
[03:27] <cchris> yes
[03:27] <cchris> I might try
[03:27] <drbreen> cchris: but i don't know .....
[03:27] <Motorhead> i've only tried ubuntu & kubuntu... i could say ubuntu is my favorite :P
[03:27] <cchris> nothing to lose
[03:28] <drbreen> cchris: i have tried with slackware 10 and kde on 350mhz 64mb ram
[03:28] <cchris> I tried xubuntu and ended up downloading alot of stuff
[03:28] <drbreen> you have 250 mb ram ?
[03:28] <cchris> yes
[03:29] <drbreen> i did not read that
[03:29] <cchris> could buy more if needed
[03:29] <drbreen> that changes a lot
[03:29] <paulw> cchris: you might want to look at DSL
[03:29] <cchris> why
[03:29] <drbreen> cause kde is memory hungry
[03:29] <drbreen> like gnome
[03:29] <drbreen> that slows things down
[03:30] <drbreen> with 128 mb my laptop (800mhz) is barely usable under kde or gnome
[03:30] <drbreen> with 256 mb, it's all nice and fun
[03:30] <cchris> I suppose if I use the live cd I could get an idea
[03:30] <Jucato> xfce, fluxbox, dsl, etc
[03:30] <cchris> about how it would run
[03:30] <drbreen> cchris: i suppose that will take foeever ;)
[03:30] <cchris> what is dsl
[03:30] <drbreen> !dsl
[03:30] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:30] <drbreen> lol
[03:31] <drbreen> dsl == damn small linux
[03:31] <paulw> damnsmalllinux
[03:31] <nyt> brb
[03:31] <drbreen> but when you say xubuntu made you download stuff, dont try dsl
[03:31] <drbreen> its only 50mb !
[03:31] <cchris> oh
[03:31] <cchris> I have that too
[03:32] <cchris> that was the first one I tried
[03:32] <cchris> tried fedora 5 but not on the pent2
[03:32] <paulw> well on a limited machine you can't expect full blown apps
[03:33] <cchris> I will lower my expectations
[03:33] <paulw> :)
[03:33] <cchris> thanks for the link
[03:34] <cchris> I will save that
[03:35] <cchris> I wandered around to several os until I found out I needed a different modem
[03:36] <cchris> so any of them would of worked
[03:36] <cchris> are there any other sites for Konversation
[03:39] <Dr_willis> puppylinux is very nice for a little mini linux install
[03:40] <cchris> never heard of  that one
[03:41] <cchris> just found the channel list
[03:41] <cchris> help files you gotta love them
[03:41] <Dr_willis> Puppy is about 80mb live cd..
[03:41] <campbch> hmm...
[03:41] <cchris> I can easily run the xubuntu if I have to
[03:42] <cchris> but will reach for the kubuntu
[03:42] <cchris> my wings might melt
[03:42] <cchris> but what a ride
[03:42] <campbch> just curious... in kdevelop, is there a reason it would give me inconsistent new project lists? it seems to change to a more limited list periodically... i don't remember enough to say exactly what's missing, but i havent done anything besides open, close, and compile projects
[03:42] <Dr_willis> you can always install the xubuntu-desktop and run it after installing kubuntu
[03:43] <Makro2> ooopssss
[03:43] <cchris> good idea
[03:43] <Makro2> close to the edge
[03:43] <campbch> also, the project folder changes structure, and it's not making any sense? :(
[03:43] <cchris> thanks for your input
[03:43] <Agent_bob> Question; howto play dvd's in vlc ?
[03:43] <cchris> Just what I needed
[03:43] <Makro2> the filesystem is up, xwindows doesn`t start, it seems some problem related with the video config
[03:44] <cchris> bye
[03:44] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[03:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:45] <campbch> does anyone know?
[03:45] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis: so dvd's require this ?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  unless they are unencrypted. :)
[03:45] <Dr_willis> vlc may or may not need it.. not sure
[03:45] <Agent_bob> ok.
[03:45] <Agent_bob> i'll have a read.
[03:46] <Makro2> ahm...what were the command for to reconfigure xfree86??
[03:46] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[03:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
 ahm...what were the command for to reconfigure xfree86??  <--- if you have Xfree86 you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-xserver  or what ever the name of that package is.
[03:50] <archangel_> how can I reformat a hard drive with a linux cd to a fat32 format?
[03:51] <archangel_> anyone
[03:51] <Agent_bob> mkfs.vfat /dev/'address'
[03:51] <Dr_willis> fdisk it.. delete the partitions. remake them as fat32, mkfs.vfat  on it
[03:52] <archangel_> from where do I do that?
[03:53] <archangel_> oh nevermind, duh
[03:53] <Agent_bob> cli       and   changing the label may be advisable but is probably not a requirement.
[03:53] <Hawkwind> From a terminal of course
[03:53] <archangel_> konsol
[03:53] <archangel_> lol
[03:53] <archangel_> void that last Q
[03:59] <Makro2> well, i got the filesystem running but only in text mode
[03:59] <Dr_willis> file system running? :)
[03:59] <Makro2> yep :)
[03:59] <Makro2> now i need to make x windows run
[04:00] <Makro2> but this is enough for today
[04:00] <archangel_> I selected in fdisk to delete a partition, but then it tells me that a  partition has not been selected. However I gave the address
[04:00] <Makro2> now i can rest...hehe
[04:00] <Dr_willis> which fdisk program are you using?
[04:00] <archangel_> I just typed fdisk in the terminal
[04:01] <archangel_> so I'm not sure
[04:01] <Dr_willis> could use a live cd with gparted/qtparted it can do all the work with a ncie gui.
[04:01] <Makro2> dr_willis: in fact qemu can handle partitions, is not really necessary to make images
[04:01] <Dr_willis> Makro2,  yep.. but i perfer vmware. :)
[04:01] <Dr_willis> i just use the tools to test out live cd's mainly
[04:01] <archangel_> I'm doing this for my bro-in law
[04:01] <Makro2> took me some hours to understand qemu internal working
[04:01] <Makro2> vmware is for linux?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> of course.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:02] <Makro2> mmm interesting
[04:02] <archangel_> he want windows put back on it
[04:02] <Makro2> not me
[04:02] <Dr_willis> fdisk the drive.. delte all the partitions... then boot the windows cd and let it partition/format the drives..
[04:02] <archangel_> (compatibility issues with college)
[04:03] <Dr_willis> or use the windows cd and its little rescue/whatever mode and its fdisk.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> you jhave just the 1 hard drive?
[04:03] <archangel_> well I used windows fdisk before and it could not delete linux partitions
[04:04] <archangel_> but I have not used the newer version in xp
[04:04] <Dr_willis> sould be able to. ive done it befor.
[04:04] <archangel_> (I was using a win98 startup disk)
[04:04] <Dr_willis> or just use a live cd or whatever and fdisk /dev/hda   then d to delete, (enter #) delet the rest.. then 'w'rite the changes.
[04:04] <archangel_> so it was rather dated
[04:04] <Dr_willis> Linux's fdisk is different commands/layout then windows's :)
[04:05] <archangel_> yeah I tried that and it told me that a partition was not selected
[04:05] <archangel_> but I have it the address
[04:05] <Dr_willis> fdisk /dev/hda
[04:05] <Dr_willis> be sure to run it as root. :)
[04:05] <archangel_> I didnt understand that, uless I gave the wrong add.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> hda - is the drive :)
[04:05] <archangel_> yeah
[04:06] <archangel_> i'll try again
[04:07] <archangel_> arrgggg
[04:07] <archangel_> trying windows xp cd
[04:08] <man4> arghhh WinXP
[04:08] <man4> nothung but hassle
[04:08] <Makro2> display modes....old tricks...
[04:08] <Dr_willis> linux's fdisk is so much nicer then windows' version. :)
[04:08] <man4> er nothing
[04:08] <Dr_willis> heck ya could just 'dd' the drive and whipe it out.. then do the isntaller
[04:08] <Dr_willis> actually i though the xp installer could delte/whipe the drive
[04:09] <archangel_> couldnt get annywhere withh fdisk in linux
[04:09] <Dr_willis> learn to use it. :)
[04:09] <archangel_> I guess I'm too used to the windows version
[04:09] <Dr_willis> or use the other fdisk alternatives
[04:10] <Dr_willis> fdisk /dev/hda
[04:10] <Dr_willis> d (for delete)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> enter # to delete
[04:10] <intelikey> cfdisk
[04:10] <archangel_> it would let use that command either
[04:10] <Dr_willis> w to writhg changes to disk...
[04:10] <intelikey> :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Done. :)
[04:10] <archangel_> I mean wouldnt
[04:10] <Dr_willis> you need to run the commands as root user of course.
[04:11] <archangel_> it kept telling me that no partitions were defind or selected
[04:11] <archangel_> but I have the address
[04:11] <archangel_> so I dont know
[04:11] <Dr_willis> do  sudo fdisk -l
[04:11] <Dr_willis> and see
[04:11] <Dr_willis> i have NO clue what you mean by 'address'
[04:12] <archangel_> sorry, windows term
[04:12] <intelikey> sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[04:12] <archangel_> windows  format c: /s              linux fdisk dev/hda  or something like that
[04:13] <Dr_willis> format is not the same as fdisk....
[04:13] <sj061> #ubuntu
[04:13] <intelikey> windows fdisk
[04:13] <Dr_willis> you fdisk the drives to make the partitions/filesystems.. THEN you use format on the  made partitions
[04:13] <LjL> "format" = "mkfs"
[04:13] <LjL> "fdisk" = ... well, "fdisk"
[04:13] <Dr_willis> if installing windows - you just need to delete the partitions.. let the windows installer 'create/format' the partitions.
[04:15] <archangel_> ok going to try again with linux, it booting now on the live cd
[04:21] <archangel_> ok its up and running
[04:22] <archangel_> linux live cd and konsol is up
[04:22] <archangel_> I type fdisk
[04:22] <compilerwriter> anyone know how to share a printer that is connected to an XP machine?
[04:23] <intelikey> !printer
[04:23] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:23] <intelikey>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
 "fdisk" = ... well, "fdisk"  <--- actually no.  windows 'fdisk' ~= linux 'cfdisk'
[04:26] <compilerwriter> Ok anyone know how to do it when the printer is connected to the XP machine?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> windows fdisk = brain dead  program with an idiotic interface. :)
[04:26] <Dr_willis> linux fdisk = makes sence.
[04:26] <Martijn81> just curious, anyone has a laptop in mind when you think about a ultimate Linux laptop?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> 'hit escape to continue'......
[04:26] <Dr_willis> Martijn81,  theres several Linux Laptop  'sites'/stores out.  depends on your budget.
[04:27] <Dr_willis> The ThinkPads i hear are very good.
[04:27] <Dr_willis> i got a little compaq/turion thats not bad for the $$
[04:27] <intelikey> Dr_willis still more like cfdisk than fdisk
[04:27] <archangel_> ok cfdisk
[04:28] <archangel_> tells me that I do not have no permission to write
[04:28] <archangel_> how do I get permission on a live cd
[04:28] <intelikey> !sudo
[04:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> run them as root...  for the 100 times...
[04:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:28] <intelikey> archangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:28] <archangel_> that is my question.... how????     lol
[04:29] <intelikey> archangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:29] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu basics. :)
[04:29] <Martijn81> Dr_willis: hmm, these IBM thinkpads sure are looking techie yes:)
[04:29] <archangel_> so I type sudo cfdisk?
[04:30] <intelikey> archangel_ if it's hda then yes.
[04:30] <intelikey> if not then   sudo cfdisk /dev/sda    or what ever it is.     (it being the hard drive.)
[04:31] <archangel_> its hda  (main drive)
[04:32] <Martijn81> Dr_willis: but, windowstax :(
[04:32] <archangel_> how do be root on a live cd?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> sudo -s
[04:32] <archangel_> ahh ok
[04:32] <intelikey> archangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:32] <intelikey> archangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:33] <Dr_willis> heh - that url is getting a work out today.
[04:33] <intelikey> it'll get more if he asks that again.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> and he will leran to LIKE it!
[04:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:34] <archangel_> intelikey: sorry dude it wont let me talk to you in chat
[04:34] <intelikey> shhh don't tell him.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Lerned
[04:35] <Dr_willis> :P learned
[04:35] <intelikey> Jucato where you been hiding ?
[04:35] <Jucato> ah
[04:35] <Jucato> I've been hiding behind you. that's why you couldn't see me :P
[04:36] <intelikey> "get thee behind me ...."   lol
[04:36] <Jucato> hehe
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm... trying to get Kaffine to do 'save screenshots' but not ask for a file name.. just save them to screen1.jpg screen2.jpg and so on...
[04:39] <archangel_> being in root still doesnt give me the permission on the live cd
[04:39] <archangel_> I'm going to throw the laptop out the window
[04:39] <archangel_> brb
[04:39] <intelikey> that's probably because it's not hda
[04:39] <archangel_> lol
[04:39] <archangel_> you think?
[04:39] <archangel_> but its the main drive
[04:40] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[04:40] <Dr_willis> and See what drives are shown
[04:40] <archangel_> I thought the main drive was always hda
[04:40] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l      should tell you.
[04:40] <archangel_> ok
[04:40] <intelikey> nope main drive is always what ever device it is....
[04:41] <intelikey> this is not windows   there is no  " C: is always your hdd "     rule      in fact one might equate C: to /   rather than any device node.
[04:41] <archangel_> haa haaaaa
[04:42] <archangel_> ok gotcha
[04:42] <Dr_willis> i managed to install windows to H: one day.. had no C: drive
[04:42] <intelikey> Dr_willis compressed hd ?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  usb media reader and XP being an IDIOT....
[04:43] <archangel_> its hdc
[04:43] <Dr_willis> 12 in 1 reader.. so windows made them D: E: F: ect....
[04:43] <Secret> !
[04:43] <jackq> command to umount hda1?
[04:43] <intelikey> ah Dr_willis makes sense.
[04:43] <intelikey> yes jackq
[04:43] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  not really. :)
[04:44] <archangel_> hey I have a media reader laying around, will it work with linux?
[04:44] <jackq> erm, what would i time in cli to umount hda1 ?
[04:44] <jackq> type*
[04:44] <intelikey> actually it does   it was reserving C: for the hd  like a good little M$ should
[04:44] <intelikey> jackq  yes type that
[04:44] <Dr_willis> it dident reserve it.. i misstyped...
[04:44] <Dr_willis> C: was also on the media reader.
[04:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:45] <jackq> its just, "umount hda1" ?
[04:45] <Secret_Squirrel> or sudo umount hda1
[04:45] <intelikey> jackq  yes    sudo  will be needed if you are not root.
[04:45] <jackq> ahh ok
[04:46] <jackq> thanks :)
[04:46] <intelikey> actually   if you want to be sure   sudo umount /dev/hda1
[04:46] <archangel_> its done
[04:46] <Lam_> what does browseable, public, and available mean (samba)?
[04:46] <Secret_Squirrel> <---  is in the process of  converting home PC's to Ubuntu.  No more MonkeySoft!  ;)
[04:46] <archangel_> getting readt to format with win xp cd now
[04:48] <intelikey> Secret_Squirrel they are still 'PCs' just not  MonkeySoft  PC's     opensource PC's  :)
[04:48] <intelikey> PC is the i86 familey of hardware
[04:49] <flaccid> how to disable UTC time support due to dual-booting with a non-UTC os (windows) ?
[04:49] <intelikey> tzconfig
[04:50] <bLaZeD> !uuid
[04:50] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:50] <flaccid> intelikey: do i just run it?
[04:50] <intelikey> flaccid yeah  but that may not do what you asked.
[04:50] <intelikey> try it.
[04:50] <flaccid> how do i know if it did it?
[04:51] <intelikey> if the clock changes ?
[04:51] <flaccid> well no the clock didn't change. i just said no to changing time zone. so i doubt this does it
[04:52] <intelikey> date -u
[04:52] <intelikey> that should display the correct utc time
[04:53] <flaccid> i want to disable use of UTC not display it
[04:54] <archangel_> dude I am so confused now. I rebooted the laptop (after deleting the main partition and the swap) and having the xp disk in the drive... 1) does not boot to the xp cd, 2) boots up to linux (I thought I just smoked the partitions)
[04:55] <intelikey> flaccid i can't test tzconfig i don't have any zoneinfo installed.
[04:57] <Dr_willis>  archangel_  you did do the 'w' to WRITE changes to the disk?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  if you delete them with d, then quit.. they dont get deleted.
[04:58] <flaccid> apparently there is a file to edit
[04:58] <archangel_> oops
[04:58] <archangel_> I guess I went to fast
[04:58] <Dr_willis> i mentioned write several times earlier. :)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> lol
[04:58] <Dr_willis> thats a big way that dos vs linux fdisk differes.. and linux's makes more sence.
[04:59] <thill2708> anyone here program in qt?
[05:00] <thill2708> er, with qt?
[05:00] <archangel_> yeah sorry Dr_willis
[05:01] <Jucato> #qt
[05:01] <archangel_> Dr_willis: I am in my pc room and running in out out cause my wife cant let me do my work in peace
[05:01] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  thats the story of my life.....
[05:01] <archangel_> Dr_willis: gotta do this and that.... yatta yatta
[05:01] <intelikey> flaccid files /etc/zoneinfo and /etc/adjtime may be relevently interesting
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Go give her a good Sexor..... tell her its a perscription from the "Dr of Love"
[05:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <archangel_> Dr_willis: I just hope she doesnt notice that line
[05:02] <Dr_willis> 'calls me upstairs to talk... then shes on the phone.....'
[05:02] <Jucato> lol
[05:02] <archangel_> Dr_willis: lol
[05:03] <archangel_> yeah, we have a rape apointment tonight
[05:03] <archangel_> hehe
[05:03] <Dr_willis> if it only takes 2 min... can it even be called that...
[05:04] <Dr_willis> 'You done yet?!'
[05:04] <Dr_willis> 'now go take out the trash.....'
[05:04] <intelikey> !language
[05:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> 'gee honey, can we at least turn off the weather report on tv' ...........
[05:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:06] <johey> Anyone know how to use Umbrello for designing database relationship diagrams (ER)?
[05:06] <archangel_> lol
[05:07] <archangel_> sorry about the mental images everyone
[05:10] <intelikey> Warning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu
[05:10] <intelikey> dappers twm is buggy i think
[05:11] <Dr_willis> typo?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> or does the file exist?
[05:11] <intelikey> file exists
[05:12] <intelikey> i'v also had trubble with the twm menu being blank.
[05:12] <intelikey> i wrote my own, but that's not the way it's supposed to work.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> i perfer wmx  for a uber-light window manager. :)
[05:13] <intelikey> does it do [alt]  click   cycling through windows ?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> never noticed
[05:14] <Dr_willis> it has a weird way ot changing desktops/windows. :P
[05:14] <intelikey> i'll give it a looking over.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> its old.. but very minimal. looks ok.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> i recall having to set some variable/./confogure optionm to get it to compile right.
[05:15] <ironfroggy> any idea why kaffeine would stop working suddenly with error "All Audio drivers failed to initialize"?
[05:16] <intelikey> wonder what package burped this one out?   install-info(/usr/share/info/automake-1.4.info): read < /usr/share/info/automake-1.4.info: No such file or directory
[05:17] <blacknine> hey people
[05:18] <intelikey> oh oh ! there are people here !!!   and me with no cloths on....

[05:21] <blacknine> i cant change my screen resolution
[05:21] <intelikey> !fixrez
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <intelikey> !fixres
[05:21] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:21] <ironfroggy> reboot didnt help. what audio drivers does kaffeine need that its failing to load or where can i get more information about the problem?
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> how do I set lock a package
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't want to update gaim but APT keeps trying to update it
[05:22] <intelikey> deslect
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: apt-get deslect gaim?
[05:23] <ironfroggy> im not even able to configure xine from kaffeine because even that gives me the audio driver error.
[05:23] <intelikey> no dselsct is an app    but i'm not sure it does that
[05:24] <intelikey> dselect     < iisc
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: i'll do am an lookup
[05:26] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago dpkg hold packagename    maybe.
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: i think that was it
[05:26] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago adept should have a feture
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: i looked in adept, i didn't see it
[05:26] <ironfroggy> how can i configure xine?
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i know how to do it in synaptic
[05:26] <intelikey> it still "should" have....
[05:27] <Dr_willis> use the menus it has. :)
[05:27] <intelikey> No `START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY' and no `This file documents'.
[05:27] <intelikey> install-info(/usr/share/info/automake-1.4.info): unable to determine description for `dir' entry - giving up
[05:28] <ironfroggy> that is, how can i configure it besides the GUI for configuring it (which is broken)
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo aptitude hold gaim
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> no that didn't work
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm whatever i don't need all the other stuff it wants to install
[05:29] <intelikey> sudo aptitude    then select it and mark it for hold
[05:30] <intelikey> if you can stand the interface that is aptitude
[05:30] <Parkotron> Does anyone here have experience ripping DVDs with K3B?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> yea - ya think there would of been some work done on it
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I dident even realize k3b could rip dvd/cds
[05:31] <Dr_willis> i just use it to burn cd/dvds
[05:31] <Parkotron> It's a new feature in the 1.0 previews. But I can't get it working.
[05:32] <intelikey> !dvd
[05:32] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:32] <intelikey> !k3b
[05:32] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[05:32] <Dr_willis>  feature-rich and user-friendly  and cured my dogs prostate problem!
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> done
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> agt aptitude is hard do use
[05:34] <intelikey> if h2o is on the inside of a fire hydrant,  what is on the out side ?
[05:35] <intelikey> k9p
[05:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ha that took a while to get
[05:36] <intelikey> ;/
[05:36] <Dr_willis> M00F!
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Wuuf!
[05:39] <intelikey> !paste
[05:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> !glue
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <intelikey> heh why would i need any of these groups ?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32884/plain/
[05:41] <intelikey> specally irc ?
[05:41] <intelikey> i like just having four groups in my /etc/groups file
[05:42] <Dr_willis> its magic voodoo!
[05:42] <Dr_willis> touch it and it will go boom!
[05:43] <intelikey> what's the command to exit a perl script    is it exit ?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> i think so.. or quit
[05:44] <intelikey> like a shell script   exit 0    ?
[05:44] <intelikey> i'll try it.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> i belive so. :) make a 3 line perl script and see.
[05:45] <intelikey> i'm adding that to the second line of install-info so it will stop erroring out on a   dpkg-reconfigure -a
[05:46] <Dr_willis> you leet haxor!
[05:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <intelikey> lol
[05:46] <Nuked> ok xubuntu and beryl = ?
[05:47] <intelikey> i'm not l337 Dr_willis   you know that.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Im too sexy for my OS...
[05:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:49] <Dr_willis> 24 min show.. first 4 min are title/intro/summary,   last 3 min are outro/credits...
[05:49] <Dr_willis> no wonder theres 160+ eps.
[05:49] <intelikey> hehhe
[05:49] <seishinbyou> purple cheese rainbow goat.  I mean good afternoon
[05:51] <intelikey> seishinbyou and a grey laxitave to you
[05:53] <seishinbyou> intelikey: Every time I see the word "grey", I think the elepant from Denmark thing, and how easy it is to avoid that if you know the other country that starts with D
[05:55] <intelikey> Read error: 387 syntax misspelled
[05:57] <intelikey> Dr_willis it is exit   but don't ever forget that all perl lines end with ;
[05:57] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:57] <Dr_willis> well most all. :)
[05:57] <intelikey> i put  exit 0    and it errored out....
[05:57] <intelikey> exit 0; works
[06:01] <intelikey> well update-alternatives and update-rc.d  anyway.
[06:03] <intelikey> i do think i have one system around here with all scripts removed..... it's a binary or else boxen
[06:04] <intelikey> ya know i think i do some really wierd things to a linux box......
[06:04] <Dr_willis> You pervert.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <Dr_willis> alt.binary.linux.erotica.fetish
[06:11] <intelikey> i guess this means it errored out again... chgrp: cannot access `/var/spool/cron/crontabs': No such file or directory
[06:12] <intelikey> that's almost enough to make me remove dpkg and forget it....
[06:12] <intelikey> i may just do that.   dpkg -P dpkg ....
[06:12] <intelikey> err dpkg -P --force-all dpkg
[06:14] <intelikey> or better yet rm /usr/bin/dpkg /var/lib/dpkg -R
[06:18] <nickv111> Hey, all. I just installed mythtv and mysql and all on my desktop computer. Everything works, and I can watch TV, record it, and the like. However, I'm trying to set it up so that another computer can watch TV, too, and that's becoming a mess. First of all, mysql -u mythtv -p -h <IP_ADDRESS> (my backend's IP) doesn't work, though mysql -u mythtv -p -h localhost works on my backend. I uncommented a line in my.cnf that bound it to
[06:18] <nickv111> <IP_ADDRESS>, restarted the mysql server, and I get the same problem. My remote machine cannot connect to my backend using mysql, so that's my initial problem
[06:18] <nickv111> Hmm. What happened there. . .
[06:20] <LeeJunFan> nickv111: when you grant permissions like grant all on mythtv.* to user@'localhost' it will only allow them to come from localhost, you also probably need to grand with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or just make sure mythtv is set to connect via localhost.
[06:21] <nickv111> Ah, that worked
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> nickv111: is a remote machine trying to connect to your mysql database?
[06:21] <nickv111> LeeJunFan: Thanks
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> np.
[06:22] <ken> How do I adjust KDE sounds?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> the system settings/control panel has a place for it..
[06:22] <Dr_willis> what ya wanting to 'adjust' ?
[06:23] <LeeJunFan> ken: system settings, notifications to change sound events.
[06:23] <ken> LeeJunFan: where is system settings?
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> ken, in the main kmenu
[06:25] <ken> duh
[06:35] <seishinbyou> Noooo, I missed my chance.  Someone got Fedora Linux running on the PS3
[06:36] <Jucato> oh?
[06:36] <seishinbyou> Jucato> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXcuhJkwx4
[06:39] <Jucato> seishinbyou: that's nice. but aside from saying "wow! FC runs on PS3", what does it all mean?
[06:39] <seishinbyou> Well, 50,000 yen for a cheap development platform isn't bad
[06:39] <Jucato> (and how do you do keyboard input?)
[06:39] <seishinbyou> USB
[06:40] <Jucato> ah
[06:41] <Jucato> so it's possible to run FC (or probably any Linux distro) on PS3...then what? I just don't understand it.. :(
[06:41] <seishinbyou> Price of PS3 which can run Linux and act as a cheap development machine is cheaper than buying a PS3 and a separate computer,
[06:41] <seishinbyou> especially if you just want to do simple tasks
[06:42] <seishinbyou> Mind you, you are outputting to a TV
[06:42] <seishinbyou> and not a monitor
[06:42] <Jucato> ah I see...
[06:42] <seishinbyou> Plus, you could (in theory) modify the way the PS3 works so you could use it as whatever you want (i.e. custom media center/server)
[06:43] <seishinbyou> Today I want my PS3 to act as a.... file serve
[06:43] <Jucato> in theory, but wouldn't Sony have some DRM in place?
[06:43] <XVampireX> PS3 for the win
[06:44] <seishinbyou> for Blu-ray, yes, but I can't see that not being circumvented eventually
[06:44] <seishinbyou> (warning: double negative in previous statement)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> i read in an artical about the ps3 - that one of the cell oprocessors is for 'os security' whatever that ment,
[06:45] <seishinbyou> To make sure the PS3 firmware isn't overwritten perhaps, but who says you can't clone that, modify it, and boot it separately as the "Other OS" from the media Xbar
[06:45] <seishinbyou> But feh, a lot of this is speculation at the moment.  At least it is open to homebrew and other OSs, unlike the PSP attitude
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[06:46] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:46] <Jucato> :)
[06:53] <Dr_willis> given sonys history and so on.. I aing getting a ps3 any time soon. :)
[06:54] <warpzone> Dr_willis: although the thought of dropping ubuntu on one is kinda tempting
[06:54] <faderhval> morning :)
[06:54] <warpzone> Dr_willis: just not tempting enough to pay $600 for their DRM'ed crap
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Yep.. $600 is a nice pc...
[06:55] <warpzone> and a nicer file server
[06:55] <faderhval> was wondering if there were a command that lets me see how much data i've transfered in total???
[06:55] <Dr_willis> i recall some way to get tcp transfer totals...
[06:55] <XVampireX> Did anyone see DRM? in action?
[06:56] <warpzone> Googley time!
[06:57] <warpzone> faderhval: urm, can't see anything off of the bat
[06:57] <seishinbyou> XVampireX: I had to work on a project involving truly evil DRM (video content "protection").  I'm sure it would be illegal outside Japan
[06:57] <faderhval> hmm google doesnt help much...:/
[06:57] <Jucato> I have experienced DRM videos
[06:58] <XVampireX> seishinbyou: So, how does it work? Licenses to people who can watch it? How does this DRM know who can watch it and who can't?
[06:58] <warpzone> faderhval: never give up, trust your instincts!
[06:58] <ubd> konnichiwa seishinbyou :O
[06:58] <faderhval> :) trying to but im not sure what to google for :)
[06:58] <warpzone> faderhval: ... sorry just played starfox again, I'll check something else
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Starfox.. hmm for the SNES?
[06:58] <seishinbyou> XVampireX: It involved WMV videos involving celebrities endorsing products (which included clips from their music videos).  It got even when the program seeked out existing products from competitors
[06:58] <seishinbyou> ubd>
[06:59] <XVampireX> heh
[06:59] <Jucato> the DRM WMV I have were downloaded from a site that teaches 3D modeling and animation. (kids online, I think)
[07:00] <thuan_> hi
[07:00] <DFM> evening
[07:00] <XVampireX> Anyway, this is a support channel, no? :P
[07:00] <DFM> anyone know what is up with Frostwire?
[07:01] <DFM> not connecting?
[07:01] <warpzone> Dr_Willis: nah 64 emulator
[07:01] <Dr_willis> warpzone,  heh - wonder if that game will be one ya can play on the Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :)
[07:01] <ubd> seishinbyou: ??????
[07:01] <ubd> hmm
[07:02] <XVampireX> DFM: It's a known issue, look in their forums
[07:02] <seishinbyou> ubd> You have Japanese fonts installed, and JP support enabled?
[07:02] <XVampireX> give me a sec I'll dig it
[07:02] <warpzone> Dr_willis: despite it's intentions, that name still feels akward. How you do invite friends over to play with your Wii?
[07:02] <jon_> Anyone have any experiance with ndiswrapper?
[07:02] <DFM> looked earlier this month and couldn't find anything
[07:02] <DFM> everytime I click their forum link the browser close's
[07:02] <ubd> i can see japanese, i dont use a jap. font atm i guess
[07:03] <DFM> thx for the response thow
[07:03] <XVampireX> DFM:http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=666
[07:04] <DFM> thanks
[07:04] <defrysk> try nicotine
[07:04] <defrysk> much better and java-free
[07:04] <ubd> ??????
[07:04] <ubd> pfft
[07:05] <defrysk> !info nicotine
[07:05] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[07:08] <jon_> Any advice on what kind of wi-fi card I should buy?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> one with a good return policy. :)
[07:09] <ubd> ??????
[07:09] <warpzone> question, btw
[07:10] <warpzone> I'm hoping to make this box a secure fileserver, accessible from the internet
[07:10] <warpzone> can anybody reccomend a guide of some sort
[07:10] <warpzone> or should I just stick to sftp
[07:11] <Dr_willis> ssh is always a good idea
[07:11] <Dr_willis> depends on the exact task you are doing with the fileserver.
[07:12] <warpzone> Dr_willis: just holding files that I can grab whenever and backup with rsync
[07:12] <warpzone> no websites or anything
[07:12] <DFM> XVampireX:thanks I got it going
[07:14] <warpzone> Dr_willis: hmm, what about using hamachi through an SSH tunnel?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> warpzone,  sounds like ssh may do what you need.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> ssh tunnles seem to be the Ultimate Tool! :)
[07:15] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: beats coding your own socket everytime you need some X user access.
[07:15] <warpzone> lol I just have no idea how to use em. However, I did find a few guides, so I believe it's time to start reading, no?
[07:15] <unix_infidel> unless you want to volunteer youreslf to create socket programs for us :P
[07:17] <Dr_willis> well night all....
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone using Konversation?
[07:21] <ubuntu> i suppose that i am
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu hit ctrl shift A
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> you'll be marked as away, do you get two messages?
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> [00:21]  [Away]  You are now marked as being away.
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> [00:21]  [Away]  You are now marked as being away.
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> like that?
[07:22] <ubuntu> not that i saw here, nope
[07:23] <ubuntu> ./away does it though
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> two messages?
[07:24] <ubuntu> nope just one
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> damn, well i keep getting two
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[07:24] <ubuntu> strange
[07:25] <Jucato> I normally only get one. Admiral_Chicago, that may be due to lag. I've had it happen to me
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i have 377 ms of lag
[07:25] <Jucato> specially since freenode has been a bit wacked lately
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> so you say you can get two when you lag heavy?
[07:25] <ubuntu> none of my shortcuts appear to work though, now that i notice
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i've always had two
[07:26] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: yes. sometimes even more than two. but only when lagging
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: hmm i'm considering filing a bug, good idea or bad?
[07:27] <Jucato> if it can be reproduced consistently by others, then it's a good idea
[07:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: did restarting help?
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no but konversation crashed
[07:30] <Jucato> ouch
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> 17 ms no repeat
[07:31] <Jucato> so no more repeating /away messages?
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> no i'm under 148ms and it's not repeating
[07:33] <dan14> hello all
[07:33] <dan14> has anyone had any luck getting wireless to work in edgy?
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless
[07:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> that might be a good first step dan14
[07:34] <dan14> i have definately tried that
[07:34] <dan14> i have a problem installing the intel drivers
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> did you try ndiswrapper?
[07:34] <dan14> i am running ipw1394 intel
[07:34] <dan14> no, will that work with intel?
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> dan14: it takes a windows driver and makes it work in linux
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure exactly your model
[07:35] <dan14> my exact model is intel pw3495
[07:35] <dan14> ipw
[07:36] <dan14> i have read the linux-on-laptops tutorial as well, with not luck either
[07:37] <dan14> brb, going to do a restart, it may work
[07:38] <ubuntu> could anyone reccomend a guide for setting up dual boot? or should i be fine with the one in the distroguide?
[07:38] <pradalover> ubuntu.....
[07:38] <Jucato> !dualboot
[07:38] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:39] <ubuntu> thank you sir
[07:39] <pradalover> google using video
[07:39] <pradalover> there is a full video on it
[07:39] <nyt> helo
[07:39] <ubuntu> sounds good
[07:41] <nyt> i have a question
[07:41] <pradalover> http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&hs=WU2&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&sa=N&resnum=0&q=dual%20boot&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wv
[07:41] <nyt> what will i use
[07:42] <nyt> what o will i do, i have a file from microsoft access
[07:42] <nyt> and i want it to open in openoffice
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask > ubuntu
[07:43] <Healot> nyt: you can open it by creating a OO database; need to connect via OBDC though...
[07:44] <nyt> obdc ? can you explain it to me
[07:44] <ubuntu> ummm, i think you missed your target with that !ask thing
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> opps sorry
[07:45] <ubuntu> np
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu you should do a /nick newnickname
[07:45] <ubuntu> .nick iamdas
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> cool, more distinct
[07:49] <nyt> :(
[07:53] <nyt> a prompt said a driver is probably defective:(
[07:53] <nyt> :(
[07:55] <Ayabara> what's a good editor for writing C code in kubuntu? all I have installed is emacs.
[07:55] <flaccid> kate
[07:57] <Jucato> kate, kdevelop, nano, vim(-tiny).take your pick :)
[07:57] <Ayabara> flaccid, is it possible to get tags in kate?
[07:57] <flaccid> what do you mean?
[07:57] <flaccid> syntax highlight?
[07:57] <seishinbyou> vim highlights too, doesn't it
[07:58] <Jucato> I thought bluefish was a web page editor?
[07:58] <pradalover> can someone help me with installing Apache using Ubuntu
[07:59] <Ayabara> flaccid, no. tags for navigating in c code. go-to-function and complete-symbol and things like that
[07:59] <Ayabara> I use xrefactory in emacs for that purpose
[07:59] <flaccid> sorry don't know about that
[08:00] <flaccid> !apache > pradalover
[08:01] <Ayabara> Jucato, kate and kdevelop seems most to my taste of the ones you mentioned
[08:01] <Ayabara> (what a sentence..)
[08:01] <Jucato> :)
[08:01] <Jucato> kdevelop is really meant to be an IDE, and might have what you're looking for. Kate is an advanced text editor, but still just a text editor. (It doesn't have tag completion, afaik)
[08:03] <Ayabara> ok. I'll give kdevelop a try.
[08:03] <flaccid> doesn't kdevelop use kate?
[08:04] <Jucato> probably the Kate kpart? but there would still be some features that KDevelop has that Kate wouldn't have, right?
[08:04] <flaccid> i think so
[08:04] <nyt> brb
[08:05] <flaccid> problem is that kdevelop doesn't have a much needed feature
[08:05] <flaccid> but kate has it
[08:05] <Jucato> what?
[08:05] <flaccid> open in current instance
[08:05] <flaccid> i dislike having a 76 kdevelop windows open
[08:06] <Jucato> oh.
[08:06] <flaccid> only reason why i don't use it
[08:06] <Jucato> on the other hand, I don't like that in Kate. sometimes I want to open a new window for a different session/instance.is that possible in Kate?
[08:07] <flaccid> yes it is
[08:07] <flaccid> take out the -U switch or -u or whatever it was
[08:07] <flaccid> thats what kdevelop doesn't support
[08:07] <teledyn_> my head is going to explode.  why does opening a doc via kfm open it in an existing kate frame?
[08:07] <Jucato> flaccid:
[08:07] <Jucato> err. % U
[08:08] <flaccid> thats it
[08:08] <teledyn_> i found it.  edited the mime type setting
[08:08] <flaccid> probably the , teledyn_
[08:08] <teledyn_> it had -use option set
[08:09] <flaccid> ah ok
[08:09] <Jucato> flaccid: kdevelop doesn't have a % U (no space in between) feature? aren't the % values supposed to be KDE-wide?
[08:09] <teledyn_> kate %U  is the correct setting for kate
[08:10] <flaccid> dunno Jucato. the developers told me the feature won't be out until next major release of kdevelop
[08:10] <Jucato> ah
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: 250+ i thinx
[08:15] <Jucato> huh?
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> lag was 442ws
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i got two away messages
[08:16] <Jucato> ah
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: will you confirm this happens when i put the bug in?
[08:20] <Jucato> that it happens when the server is lagging? are you sure that it's a konversation bug though?
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> it never happened to me on xchat
[08:21] <Jucato> ah. would be good if you asked in #konversation, too
[08:29] <kraut> moin
[08:33] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I commented on the bug, but didn't set it to Confirmed yet
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> okay that's fine
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks a lot
[09:01] <kamui> how do I modify my systemwide PATH?  it seems that content put in /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't have any impact on apps run inside of a gdm session
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> kamui: i think it's ~/.profile but i'm not even sure
[09:02] <kamui> Admiral_Chicago: I don't think that has any impact until a login at the shell executes
[09:02] <kamui> thats why my global bashrc doesn't work either
[09:03] <kamui> I mean, there must be a way since /usr/bin is accessible, I just need to find out how that path is executable and add my custom sdk dir to that same path statement
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> i've only edited my ~/.profile once but somone guided me so I don't know
[09:43] <Malandrovjs> Hallo
[09:43] <Malandrovjs> Hoi
[09:44] <Malandrovjs> e
[09:44] <Malandrovjs> g
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Hello Malandrovjs
[09:50] <Malandrovjs> Hello Admiral_chicago
[09:51] <Malandrovjs> how Hare you <Amiral_Chicago>?
[09:51] <stephan> my mouse focus here is brocken, to activate a windown, i must always click the title bar, when i click into the window, the window doesn"t get the focus
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm well
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> stephan: check your windows behavior
[09:52] <avatar> hi there. yesterday I updated to edgy - and now my system sounds in kde did not work anymore (startup, shutdown, notify, ...). But I have sound while playing music files (mp3/ogg) or videos. any hint where to search for the problem?
[09:53] <elementone> anybody mind helping a fellow kubuntunian out?
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> elementone: i can try
[09:56] <elementone> Admiral_Chicago: im having some problems with my install
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> elementone: whats the problem?
[09:57] <elementone> Admiral_Chicago: using the iso image from the site.. i burned a copy of kubuntu with nero.. it loads (im using it right now) but when i try to install, i goes thru the language, keyboard setting and when it asks what kind of partitioning i would like to use, it goes into some kind of loop,
[09:57] <unix_infidel> elementone: first things first, did you do an md5sum of the iso image file?
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you want the partiton to do
[09:57] <elementone> i would like to rezise my partition
[09:58] <stephan> Admiral_Chicago: checked it several times, everything right
[09:58] <elementone> i did a cdrom file check.. it came out ok
[09:58] <stephan> rebooted, nothing, switched somthing off and on again and it seem to work!!!
[09:59] <Malandrovjs> Hallo, why I can`t find information about sound card installation?
[09:59] <elementone> Admiral_Chicago: any ideas?
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> elementone: what do you want to do with the partitoning?
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> stephan: hmm i'm not sure how to help you then?
[10:00] <_4strO> yop yop
[10:01] <elementone> Admiral_Chicago: i would like to use the free space on the existing partition and install kubuntu there.
[10:01] <unix_infidel> elementone: the windows partition is taking up the entire disk?
[10:01] <elementone> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[10:02] <elementone> or unix_infidel
[10:02] <elementone> :)
[10:02] <unix_infidel> elementone: did you defrag the drive first?
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> elementone: the option is...use largest existing free space
[10:02] <elementone> unix_infidel: no i dint
[10:02] <unix_infidel> elementone: stop!
[10:03] <elementone> Admiral_Chicago: its about 13 gigs
[10:03] <unix_infidel> before doing anything else, exit all programs (dont apply any changes!) and boot into windows.
 Do you know how can I install my sound card on kubuntu?
[10:03] <elementone> unix_infidel: ok..
[10:03] <unix_infidel> defrag your windows partition. REMEMBER i'm on the assumtion that this windows partition is taking up the entire disk.
[10:03] <unix_infidel> and that's the ONLY partition on the 13GB disk.
[10:03] <elementone> its a 260 gig hd
[10:04] <elementone> with about 15gb of free space
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Malandrovjs: what kind of soundcard do you have/
[10:04] <elementone> windows IS the only partition
[10:04] <Malandrovjs> because I can`t find on kubuntu documentation, there is only about graphics driver
[10:04] <unix_infidel> elementone: ok, so how big do you want the linux partition(s) to be?
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> elementone: defrag is a good idea
[10:04] <elementone> all together swap and all about 10g
[10:05] <elementone> unix_infidel: can i do it from here? (kubuntu from cdrom)
[10:05] <unix_infidel> elementone: i'd recommend 15-20 but 10GB will be just fine.
[10:05] <Malandrovjs> I have onboard soundcard on Dell Optiplex G1
[10:05] <XVampireX> defrag is always a good idea, since microsoft is so bad at developing file systems
[10:05] <XVampireX> or at developing anything good
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Mal
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Malandrovjs: it's not installed?
[10:05] <Malandrovjs> no,
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> how do you know it's not?
[10:05] <elementone> unix_infidel: i can free up some more space, its just some vids and m
[10:06] <elementone> p3s
[10:06] <unix_infidel> elementone: well, there is risk in resizing your windows partition down to a specific size so....
[10:06] <unix_infidel> here's the order of operations for you (this might take a second)
[10:06] <elementone> ok
[10:06] <elementone> unix_infidel: thanks
 It is not installed
[10:07] <unix_infidel> 1)BACKUP YOUR DATA!! (i cant stress that enough) 2) defragment and re-defragment 2x-3x times your windows partition 3)decide if you want to take the risk of resizign your windows partition ( you may lose data!) after deciding go a head and resize using the install cd and an application called qtparted.
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i understand that, but my question is how do you know its not installed
[10:07] <unix_infidel> then come back here and ask questions about partition schemes and sizes.
It is onboard soundcard, Crysta WDM Audio-codec  on dell optiplex G1 its not installed
[10:08] <elementone> ok
[10:08] <elementone> unix
[10:08] <elementone> unix_infidel: thanks a lot
[10:09] <elementone> unix_infidel: i shoukd be back in the morning .. it will take a while lol
[10:09] <unix_infidel> np, back up your stuff man.  I cant tell you how many people who get paid 6 figures to manage linux systems cry when they fail to backup.
[10:09] <unix_infidel> i mean literally, tears and broken raid arrays.
[10:09] <elementone> haha
[10:09] <elementone> i wil..
[10:10] <elementone> im mostly concerned about photos
[10:10] <elementone> mp3s and movies and all that i can get them again..
[10:10] <elementone> and i have most of the installers
[10:10] <elementone> i think ... :-S
[10:10] <elementone> anyway
[10:10] <elementone> thanks alot unix_infidel
when I try to play a audio CD I don`t hear nathing
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Malandrovjs: what kind of CD is it?
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> is it a fresh install? what are you using to play the CD?
I`m using kaffeine player
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> is the CD an audio CD, it is an MP3 Cd
It is audio Cd
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, try using amarok to play the Cd first
[10:15] <Malandrovjs> Ok
I get this Error in Amarok ---> xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Malandrovjs: wait a few minutes, amarok does that to me sometimes
[10:18] <Malandrovjs> ok
[10:25] <peanutb> anyone know why canonical is only shipping LTS cds?
[10:26] <Jucato> because it is LTS (Long Term Support), which means it's the main supported release for a long time (3-5 years)
[10:27] <peanutb> is there a way i can get the artwork to make my own cds?
[10:28] <Jucato> The wallpaper is here: http://art.ubuntu.com/main.php?g2_itemId=70
[10:29] <Malandrovjs> Admiral_Chicago---. Nothing
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Malandrovjs: hmm, that's really odd
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: can you try to help Malandrovjs
[10:31] <Malandrovjs> Admiral_Chicago---- With KDE Daemon its plays but no sound coming out
[10:31] <ermak> does anyone use opera in kubuntu? can you test site http://series60.ru? when I browse this site everything lags and sometimes freeze....
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> !sound
[10:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> tryy those links
[10:32] <Malandrovjs> Ok
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: Malandrovjs is having problems with sound, maybe you can help him/her. i have to go
[10:33] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: what's the output from ``asoundconf list''?
 I don`t know, how can I see asoundconf list? I`m a newbe Man on Linux system
[10:36] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: type that command (which is in quotes) in a Konsole
[10:36] <crimsun> then tell me the output
[10:37] <Malandrovjs> Ok
 there is no outpout
[10:39] <Malandrovjs> output
[10:39] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: ok. What type of sound card is it?
[10:39] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: alternately, how old is the computer, and who makes it, and what model is it?
[10:39] <Malandrovjs> it is Onboard soundcard on Dell optiplex G1 p 2
[10:40] <crimsun> ah
[10:40] <canllaith> Hi there! I was wondering if someone could do me a favour and tell me if they have a 'Go' menu in their konqueror under Kubuntu edgy ? :)
[10:40] <Jucato> no
[10:40] <canllaith> Bother. Ok, thanks.
[10:40] <Jucato> Go and Window menu are disabled/hidden by default in Kubuntu
[10:41] <canllaith> *sigh* ok, thanks :)
[10:41] <Jucato> canllaith: you can restore them if you want
[10:42] <canllaith> Nah, I don't use kubuntu, I'm just trying to write some 'generic' instructions that will work on most distributions and kubuntus 'usability improvements' tend to throw a spanner in the works.
[10:42] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: in a Konsole, please use ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4232''
[10:43] <canllaith> Go -> Network Folders is one way of getting to the remote:/ kioslave. Not all distros put the system button on the panel like kubuntu does (which is probably a friendlier way of getting there)
is Dell Optiplex G1 onboard soundcard Crystal WDM Audio-codec
[10:44] <canllaith> Ah well, thanks for the confirmation Jucato. I recently had a kubuntu user file a bug against KDE documentation over that 'go' menu so I suspected that it was disabled.
[10:44] <Jucato> probably. but are the entries under the Go menu consistent in all distros?also, there's the navigation panel (visible in file browser mode), which is also a friendlier way of getting there
[10:44] <canllaith>  I have no idea about 'all distros'. I use the unmodified sources pulled from KDE 3.5 branch, so goodness knows.
[10:45] <canllaith> Kubuntu is so popular though, I need to make sure I'm taking into account their changes for what I'm writing here.
output, FATAL: Error inserting snd-cs4232 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4232.ko): No such device
[10:47] <Lynoure> Is there a DVD ripper that does not make iso automatically (k9copy seems to, at least on Dapper) or a player that can play dvd isos?
[10:49] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: use ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236''
[10:50] <Malandrovjs> yes I did it
[10:50] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: you just executed the above command?
[10:50] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: note that I gave you a different command
[10:50] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: an ending _6_ versus _2_
[10:51] <Malandrovjs> I have to do sudo an ending_6_versus_2?
[10:51] <crimsun> no
[10:51] <mats_> hehe
[10:51] <crimsun> ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236''
[10:53] <Malandrovjs> I did the other one
 I did this one sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[10:54] <Malandrovjs> there is no output
[10:56] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: excellent
[10:56] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: what's the output now from ``asoundconf list''?
[10:57] <Malandrovjs> Name of available sound cards: cs42366b
Names of available sound cards: CS4236B
[11:03] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: brilliant :)
[11:04] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: now this in a Konsole:  ``echo snd-cs4236 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules''
 i did but no output
[11:06] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: it should have echoed "snd-cs4236" back
[11:08] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: what's the output from ``tail -1 /etc/modules'' ?
[11:09] <Malandrovjs> >crimsun< the output from tail -1 /etc/modules is snd-cs4236
[11:09] <crimsun> great.
[11:09] <crimsun> Malandrovjs: now log out of KDE and back in
[11:10] <Malandrovjs> Ok,
[11:26] <malandrovjs> crimsun----- its working
[11:26] <crimsun> yes, I know
[11:26] <malandrovjs> thanks man
[11:26] <crimsun> np
[11:27] <malandrovjs> How do you know?
[11:27] <crimsun> because I handle alsa for *buntu.
[11:27] <Jucato> :)
[11:27] <crimsun> and now, I'm going to bed.
[11:28] <malandrovjs> Ok, where can find a good book to learn how to works with kubuntu or linux?
[11:28] <harmental> how can i add a folder into PATH?
[11:29] <mats> mkdir ?
[11:30] <harmental> i mean in the list of search paths...
[11:51] <harmental> quick questions regarding scripts:
[11:51] <harmental> which file extension to use?
[11:51] <harmental> (if any)
[11:51] <harmental> how to run a script thats already in the PATH?
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> malandrovjs: http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1 like this one?
 Thank man,
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm glad your problem got fixed
[11:59] <malandrovjs> >Admiral_Chicago< I will try to look for in HOlland, becouse I`m live here
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i've seen more and more books in stores about Ubuntu
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> malandrovjs: i like in Chicago, i'm just an amnesiac
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> brb going to swtich chat clients i think
[12:00] <malandrovjs> OK
[12:01] <malandrovjs> I want to learn more about kubuntu, or linux
[12:01] <seaLne> can anyone think of what might cause after an upgrade to feisty for my machine not to be able to find the vm root partition and therefore not boot?
[12:01] <seaLne> lvm root
[12:01] <malandrovjs> I think I`ll never go back to Windows system
[12:01] <matevz> I'm missing update-menus on my kubuntu edgy
[12:02] <matevz> I need this to make a .deb package for menu icon, right?
[12:09] <Admiral_Chicago> seaLne: #ubuntu+1for foeisty support
[12:11] <KomiaPoika> what package can i install to have gftp installed with ssl support?
[12:14] <icheyne> malandrovjs, this one is not Kubuntu specific, but I found it very useful and it's free. "Introduction to Linux - A Hands on Guide" (http://tldp.org/guides.html)
[12:15] <vyoman> is anybody  using this DVD burner: Philips SPD3000CC Dual layer External Portable DVD Rewriter
[12:15] <vyoman> does it work with kubuntu, are you happy with it?
[12:16] <malandrovjs> Thank<icheyne>
[12:18] <icheyne> malandrovjs, pleasure :)
Do you know what I can do with this outpup:Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[12:20] <malandrovjs> I was trying to play a avi movie on Totem
[12:20] <malandrovjs> Totem Movie Player
[12:20] <icheyne> malandrovjs, yes go to www.ubuntuguide.org and install all the codecs
[12:20] <icheyne> I'll find you a link
[12:20] <icheyne> hang on
[12:20] <malandrovjs> OK\
[12:21] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone want to show me around irssi?
[12:21] <icheyne> malandrovjs, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[12:21] <icheyne> !xvid | malandrovjs
[12:21] <ubotu> malandrovjs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:26] <Arepie> hello... after i install beryl.. and add a startup "beryl-manager" i can't login to X.. what should i do?
[12:30] <icheyne> Arepie, maybe try #ubuntu-xgl ?
[12:33] <Arepie> anybody home?
[12:33] <guglielf> only root
[12:49] <ypsila> ach du schande, was geht denn hier ab
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> !de
[12:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:50] <ypsila> I want a bot for #kubuntu-de
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ypsila: like ubotu?
[12:51] <ypsila> yes
[12:51] <ypsila> and some more things
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> #ubuntu-bots is the place for you
[12:52] <ypsila> Admiral_Chicago: it is not a decision of only one person
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> ypsila: what do you mean?
[12:54] <ypsila> I mean that until today there are no bots allowed, and since several weeks we discuss about it, but the meeting of the deciding people did not take place
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm that's unfortunet, but i really have nothing to do with bots
[12:57] <ypsila> me not either, but it would be a nice thing for beginners
[12:58] <pont> Random question, Anyone have Korganizer syncing with Google Cal
[12:58] <kay> !php
[12:58] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:59] <Admiral_Chicago> ypsila: i agree, i'm just not sure how to help you
[01:00] <kay> do anyone knows if there is a php chat?
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i keep ubotu in a PM so I don't flood the channel, the bot is great
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> kay i think the command in /list
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> there has to be one
[01:00] <ypsila> kay: did you search for it?
[01:01] <kay> ypsila: i dont search for it i ask here now
[01:02] <icheyne> pont, no but it would be cool if I could do that. I might give it a go tonight...
[01:03] <ypsila> kay: then go on asking, if it is too difficult for you to type to words into a google-search :-D
[01:03] <kay> ypsila: hm ... sure you right
[01:03] <Bubba_Gump> My Amarok won't play flac
[01:03] <Bubba_Gump> any suggestions?
[01:04] <Emess> got the flac codec?
[01:04] <ypsila> no there is no php chat! nowhere!
[01:04] <kay> ypsila: you kidding?
[01:04] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: where does it show if i've got the flac codec?
[01:04] <^itch> hello ppl
[01:05] <Bubba_Gump> !flac
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: your in kubuntu yes? just open adept and type in flac and it will tell you if its there or not
[01:05] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: k :)
[01:05] <kay> ypsila: hm... thx#
[01:05] <^itch> can anyone recomend me a software capturing imagages from my webcam, and broadcasting them ?
[01:05] <ypsila> it is absolutely unbelievable that there should be people writing about php
[01:05] <kay> ypsila: you are right
[01:06] <Emess> ^itch: google
[01:06] <ypsila> sag ich doch
[01:06] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: i have libflac++5c2, libflac7, liboogflac3 installed
[01:07] <kay> ypsila: nett
[01:07] <^itch> Emess , so far i`ve tryed camorama and camsteam. But i din`t liked any of them.
[01:07] <pont> icheyne: Wicked, If you get it going.. Give me a yell :P
[01:07] <icheyne> pont, will do
[01:07] <KomiaPoika> how do you turn off turning word reds when they don't match dictionnary in konqueror ??
[01:08] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: try playing them in another progranm to see if its just amaork
[01:08] <Bubba_Gump> ok :)
[01:08] <Emess> ^itch: isnt there a progrma in kubuntu that comes in teh default install that does it?
[01:08] <^itch> Emess : dunno. whitch one is it ?
[01:09] <Emess> ^itch: not sure, but it'd be under kmenu --> graphics
[01:09] <Jucato> digikam?
[01:09] <Emess> have you tried setitng the webcam up as a camera?
[01:09] <Emess> Jucato: no, he wants to broadcast
[01:09] <Jucato> ah
[01:10] <ypsila> !php
[01:10] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[01:10] <jihi> !de
[01:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:10] <^itch> Emess : no. But i`ve just set it up as a scanner and opend it with kooka ;)
[01:10] <ypsila> :-D moin jihi
[01:10] <ypsila> !php
[01:11] <jihi> hi ypsila ^^
[01:11] <ypsila> nicht verkehrt, oder?
[01:11] <jihi> ja, das ist gut
[01:11] <ypsila> emacs!
[01:11] <jihi> besonders wenn man auch begriffe hinzufgenkann
[01:11] <ypsila> !emacs
[01:11] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[01:11] <ypsila> und raus
[01:13] <icheyne> !botabuse | ypsila
[01:13] <ubotu> ypsila: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:13] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: doesn't play in Kaffeine
[01:13] <tackat> Hi
[01:14] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: the flac, that is :)
[01:14] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: then its a codec problem
[01:14] <Bubba_Gump> yeah
[01:14] <Bubba_Gump> !flac
[01:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:14] <tackat> any idea why my Centrino Duo doesn't go beyond 1000 MHz on Kubuntu no matter how intensive job's I'm processing? :)
[01:14] <ypsila> icheyne: it was only to demonstrate the bot, we would like to have one too in our channel #kubuntu-de
[01:14] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: try removing the flac packages and then installing them again, but install with commadn line so you can check they are being setup properly
[01:15] <tackat> (should have 1667 MHz)
[01:15] <fkling> hi, ive got a question about amule (in ubuntu): my kad is firewalled, but I conifgured my rooter right (I think) and flashed iptables... e2dk works (high ID)- any ideas what could be wrong?
[01:15] <fkling> and kad turns off after some minutes
[01:17] <MrMee> hi, umm... can anybody help me out? you see, i'm tryin to remove a rogue dll on a windows partition with this kubuntu live cd, but it tells me it can't view the drive can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab
[01:17] <pont> mrmee, sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[01:18] <pont> then look in /mnt for the file
[01:18] <MrMee> cool. thanks ^__^
[01:18] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: all insalled :)
[01:18] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: test it now?
[01:18] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: clsoe amaroK completely first, to make sure it loads new codecs
[01:19] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: :(
[01:19] <visik7> anyone using inotify ?
[01:20] <MrMee> hmmm.... now it's denying me permission. how do i open konqueror as root?
[01:20] <Jucato> it's not a good idea to do anything that involves writing (that includes deleting) on NTFS partitions
[01:20] <malandrvjs> I try to use this command: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lis and I get this output:sudo: gedit: command not found
[01:21] <malandrvjs> What can be the problem?
[01:21] <Emess> malandrvjs: you on kubuntu? it doesnt have gedit
[01:21] <Jucato> kate
[01:21] <Jucato> replace gedit with kate
[01:21] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: whats teh actual error in amaroK?
[01:21] <Bubba_Gump> there is none
[01:21] <Jucato> gedit = GNOME text editor, kate = KDE text editor
[01:21] <malandrvjs> yes I`m on kubuntu
[01:21] <KomiaPoika> how do you turn off turning word reds when they don't match dictionnary in konqueror ??
[01:21] <Bubba_Gump> it skips over the files (flac) until playlist finished
[01:21] <Emess> Jucato: kate is graphic tho, sudo would need to be kdesu wouldnt it?
[01:22] <icheyne> !kdesu | MrMee
[01:22] <ubotu> MrMee: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:22] <Jucato> er yeah. didn't notice that :)
[01:22] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: does it play non-flac files?
[01:22] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: yes
[01:22] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: cd and mp3
[01:22] <Jucato> malandrvjs: use kdesu kate instead of sudo gedit
[01:22] <malandrvjs> ok
[01:22] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: int eh lover left corner of amarok, does it tell you the error for flac?
[01:23] <Emess> *lower
[01:23] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: no
[01:23] <alex1981> hi guys
[01:23] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: normally an error shows a box with an 'i', this time the box does not appear
[01:23] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: not really sure then, it sounds like amaroK cant read where flac is, tried converting or do you need lossless?
[01:23] <MrMee> soooo, i type kdesu konqueror in the konsole? cuz when i do that, it tells me "kdesu: cannot connect to x server"
[01:24] <Emess> MrMee: are you in X?
[01:24] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: yes for these tracks i would like to have lossless
[01:24] <MrMee> i'm a linux newbie, so i unfortunately don't know :\
[01:24] <Emess> Bubba_Gump: then im not sure, could be an Edgy problem, I can't open Kaffeine at all
[01:24] <Emess> MrMee: is it all commandline or do you have a desktop and that?
[01:24] <MrMee> desktop
[01:25] <Jucato> MrMee: try Alt+F2, kdesu konqueror. but again, it's not advisable to write/delete on NTFS, specially Windows partitions/drives
[01:25] <MrMee> even to delete one little file?
[01:26] <Jucato> it may, or may not mess up the filesystem. proceed at your own risk (although it may not produce any problems)
[01:26] <MrMee> okay. gotcha. thanks
[01:27] <Emess> MrMee: where is the file located just try sudo rm /mnt/fiellocation/filename.dll
[01:27] <Emess> where is it and il give you the full command
[01:28] <MrMee> WINDOWS/system32/dclpui.dll
[01:28] <[GuS] > bonjour...
[01:29] <Emess> ok, sudo rm /mnt/WINDOWS/system32/dclpui.dll
 With kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.li I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32911/ is that normal?
[01:31] <icheyne> yes I get that
[01:31] <icheyne> it's not good, but I get it :(
[01:31] <icheyne> malandrvjs, it might be something to do with your xorg.conf
[01:31] <icheyne> I have not been able to fix it
[01:31] <Emess> o.O
[01:31] <Emess> X error
[01:32] <Emess> why are you editing like that anyway? you can edit your sources in adept by going adept --> manage repositories
[01:32] <Jucato> it's normal
[01:32] <MrMee> cannot remove read-only file system
[01:32] <Jucato> those X error messages are normal
[01:33] <Emess> MrMee: thought so, linux doesnt like writing to NTFS
[01:33] <Emess> MrMee: if you jsut want to delete the file why not jsut login to windows in safe mode with command and then delete it that way?
[01:34] <MrMee> file's bein held on to. even when i try to get it released with process explorer, it complains.
[01:34] <Jucato> or use your Windows CD and go to recovery mode
[01:34] <MrMee> my only other option is to remove the file via the command prompt by unregistering it first, but i forgot how to do that
[01:34] <Jucato> MrMee: it complains even in safe mode?
[01:34] <Emess> commandline delete wont worry about that and jsut do it anyway
can you see it again? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32912/
[01:35] <MrMee> yyyyup. even in safe mode :(
[01:35] <Emess> MrMee: get your windows cd and use Recovery mode
[01:35] <MrMee> that i'll try. didn't think o' that.
[01:35] <MrMee> thanks
[01:35] <pont> MrMee: that or get a dos boot disk that can read NTFS, a couple around
[01:36] <malandrvjs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32912/ is that normal?
[01:37] <Emess> malandrvjs: what are you actually trying to do?
[01:37] <malandrvjs> install skype
[01:38] <Emess> ah, then what are you needing root konqueror for?
[01:38] <Emess> just go to skype's debian page, add the repo, and sudo apt-get install skype
[01:39] <XVampireX> sudo apt-get remove --purge skype #for being so outdated
[01:40] <Emess> http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/repositories.html
[01:42] <Jucato> just be careful in adding extra repositories. It may or may not make it harder to update/upgrade later on.
[01:42] <XVampireX> People who use WoW with Cedega get banned
[01:42] <Jucato> (it may or may not also make it harder to install some apps... YMMV)
[01:42] <XVampireX> It proves that there is hate towards Linux
[01:43] <Emess> Jucato: the only error iv seen liek that was with the beerorkid repo killing the upgrade rom dapper to edgy
[01:44] <Bubba_Gump> Emess: i've purge my flac and installed afresh and amarok still plays only mp3s
[01:44] <Jucato> Emess: some problems with the edgy upgrade were also caused by non-official repos, even the ones for beryl/compiz
[01:58] <ohmbr> hi, how do i get a service to run at startup on ububtu?
[02:02] <largo24> br has joined #kubuntu
[02:02] <largo24> <o
[02:02] <largo24> oops
[02:03] <largo24> ohmbr, kubuntu or ubuntu?
[02:03] <ohmbr> largo24:  kubuntu
[02:04] <largo24> from the program menu click system settings > advanced > system services
[02:08] <ohmbr> largo24: tks...
[02:08] <largo24> yw
[02:09] <pont> how do i go about browsing smb shares in kubuntu
[02:09] <Tm_T> !samba
[02:09] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:10] <pont> thinking more so in konqueror
[02:10] <Jucato> smb:/
[02:11] <pont> Jucato: cheers
[02:11] <Jucato> :)
[02:21] <Bubba_Gump> i uninstalled xine which also for some reason uninstalled open office??
[02:21] <sheft> Hi, how do I install realplayer?
[02:23] <drbreen> don't do it
[02:23] <drbreen> realplayer is shit
[02:23] <Bubba_Gump> but sheft wants to install it
[02:23] <drbreen> okay: sheft: do you know how to change repositories ?
[02:23] <drbreen> cheft: did you enable universe ?
[02:24] <sheft> hmm, how do I do that? i want to install it so it works with my firefox.
[02:24] <Jucato> !info realplayer
[02:24] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[02:24] <Jucato> O.o
[02:25] <gnomefreak> wait a min
[02:25] <gnomefreak> i uploade da deb for it lastweek
[02:26] <largo24> sheft, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[02:27] <gnomefreak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods has a realplayer deb
[02:27] <Jucato> gnomefreak: do you know when edgy-commercial will be available? if it ever will
[02:27] <gnomefreak> not sure it will be
[02:27] <Jucato> :(
[02:27] <gnomefreak> i havent heard. thats why im uploading my .dbes for packages you cant get  :)
[02:27] <Jucato> so what are the alternative ways to get Opera and RealPlayer?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> s/.dbes/debs
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i just gave you the link to realplayer 10 for edgy
[02:28] <gnomefreak> and feisty it works on atm
[02:28] <Jucato> :)
[02:28] <Jucato> thanks for that :)
[02:28] <Jucato> although... Kaffeine reads .rm and .rmvb just fine...
[02:28] <gnomefreak> give me a few days i have to work out a password issue on my DB and i will upload opera and other .debs i have
[02:29] <ka_1900> i have a question .!
[02:29] <gnomefreak> !realplayer
[02:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[02:29] <Bubba_Gump> ka_1900: ?
[02:29] <ka_1900> my laptop (hp dv4394) after installing kubunto on it
[02:30] <Bubba_Gump> yeah?
[02:30] <ka_1900> when i use ctrl+alt +f1 to go to the shell ,. the screen goes scrambled and nothing usefull appears
[02:30] <ka_1900> no prompt or smthing ,.
[02:30] <ka_1900> but the gui is working fine
[02:30] <Bubba_Gump> no grub?
[02:31] <ka_1900> no no ,. it is not about grub
[02:31] <ka_1900> it is when im on kde .. and switches by ctrl+alt +f1 ,. the shell is not appearing ,.
[02:31] <Bubba_Gump> need you have shell only?
[02:32] <ka_1900> although the console is working fine under KDE
[02:32] <Bubba_Gump> can you use konsole?
[02:32] <Bubba_Gump> ah
[02:32] <Bubba_Gump> i have the same problem
[02:32] <Bubba_Gump> which version are you running, breezy dapper edgy ?
[02:33] <ka_1900> edgy
[02:33] <ScarFreewill> how do i update my ati drivers?
[02:33] <Bubba_Gump> !ati
[02:33] <ScarFreewill> ati!
[02:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <ScarFreewill> :P
[02:34] <Bubba_Gump> ka_1900: seems a fair few things have yet to work right in edgy
[02:34] <Bubba_Gump> ka_1900: on this one i don't know
[02:34] <Bubba_Gump> anyone know ?
[02:34] <ka_1900> so u recommend me to go try dapper ?
[02:34] <mc__> ka_1900: that is a known nvidia bug afaik
[02:35] <ka_1900> no my vga card is ATI
[02:35] <mc__> ka_1900: have you tried installing the latest drivers?
[02:37] <ka_1900> mc__ ,. yup
[02:38] <ka_1900> but no progress
[02:38] <ScarFreewill> i have dapper and the latest is 7.0.0-8.25.18+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (ati driver) do i need to upgrade to edgy if i want new drivers?
[02:38] <ScarFreewill> 8.28.8 is out on edgy
[02:40] <ka_1900> ok guys ,. thanks for ur interest
[02:41] <ScarFreewill> i have dapper and the latest is 7.0.0-8.25.18+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (ati driver) do i need to upgrade to edgy if i want new drivers? 8.28.8 is out on edgy?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ScarFreewill: yes unles syou manully install them from the ati site
[02:43] <ScarFreewill> gomefreak where can i find a how to for that? its big file hey like 50mb?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> !ati | ScarFreewill
[02:44] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[02:44] <gnomefreak> !test
[02:44] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[02:44] <ScarFreewill> wheres the bot? lol
[02:45] <gnomefreak> im asking right now
[02:45] <Jucato> lagging?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> hes not working in any channel atm that i can see
[02:45] <ScarFreewill> maybe i broke it when it typed ati! and not !ati
[02:46] <Jucato> nah, he's not that sensitive
[02:46] <gnomefreak> seems both bots are dead
[02:46] <gnomefreak> ati! doesnt do anything
[02:46] <ScarFreewill> ok
[02:47] <gnomefreak> i informed Sevea^s of it. ill stick around for an answer
[02:48] <Jucato> lol @ the attempt not to "notify" Sevea^s :P
[02:48] <hyper_ch> !nvidia
[02:48] <hyper_ch> :(
[02:48] <Jucato> bots are down
[02:48] <Jucato> they seem to be taking a break
[02:48] <hyper_ch> I need my nvidia to work :(
[02:49] <mc__> hyper_ch: tell us your problem
[02:49] <Jucato> some people can do better than bots :P
[02:49] <hyper_ch> mc__: well, got a nvidia geforce2 GTS/Pro and installed the nvidia legacy driver but seems not to work properly... glxinfo returns errors
[02:49] <hyper_ch> glxgears produces errors
[02:50] <hyper_ch> however the nvidia boot-up image appears
[02:50] <hyper_ch> <-- running edgy
[02:50] <gnomefreak> hyper_ch: than it works
[02:50] <woodefec> hi
[02:50] <ScarFreewill> hyper_ch, i loved my geforce2 :) it rocked
[02:50] <ScarFreewill> hi
[02:50] <gnomefreak> hyper_ch: where does it stop working? kdm? or after login
[02:50] <hyper_ch> hyper@xubi:~$ glxgears
[02:50] <hyper_ch> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:50] <hyper_ch> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[02:50] <hyper_ch> hyper@xubi:~$
[02:50] <mc__> hyper_ch: show us your xorg.conf
[02:51] <Jucato> pastebin please
[02:51] <Jucato> hyper_ch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ <-- use that to show your xorg.conf
[02:52] <mc__> hyper_ch: do you have a line Load "glx" ind your Module Section?
[02:52] <hyper_ch> mc__: http://www.roleplayer.org/xorg.conf
[02:52] <Jucato> wow. his own pastebin?  :P
[02:52] <hyper_ch> not pastebin
[02:52] <hyper_ch> scp upload to my server
[02:52] <flo_> Hi! Is there a way to make konqueror sort these items (folder 1,folder 2, folder 10) in this order (folder 1,folder 2, folder 10) instead of (folder 1, folder 10, folder 2) ?
[02:52] <Jucato> ah nice hehehe :)
[02:53] <Jucato> flo_: folder 01, folder 02, folder 03, ... folder 10
[02:53] <hyper_ch> mc__: the load glx is in the module section
[02:54] <flo_> Jucato: Yes but i often read remote folders that i cannot edit. so i was looking for a different solution
[02:54] <Jucato> unfortunately, I don't know of any other solution :(
[02:57] <hyper_ch> why does:  glxinfo > glxinfo.txt    not work?
[02:57] <arriesp> ola
[02:58] <hyper_ch> Jucato / mc__ :found anything?
[02:58] <mc__> hyper_ch: btw:the difference between debian and ubuntu isnt that big
[02:58] <mc__> hyper_ch: its nearly the same
[02:58] <ypsila> hyper_ch: dancing on different tables ;-)
[02:58] <Jucato> hyper_ch: nope :(
[02:58] <hyper_ch> mc__: yes but I think to operate a server a pure stable debian is better :)
[02:58] <hyper_ch> ypsila: hi honey
[02:59] <mc__> hyper_ch: it is,i use also debian for my server
[02:59] <mc__> hyper_ch: pastes us your xorg log please
[02:59] <mc__> hyper_ch:  its located in  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:00] <hyper_ch> mc__: http://www.roleplayer.org/Xorg.0.log
[03:02] <Jucato> bots are back :)
[03:02] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[03:02] <ScarFreewill> colo
[03:02] <hyper_ch> !nvidia
[03:02] <ScarFreewill> uhm about that...
[03:02] <hyper_ch> !nVidia
[03:02] <mc__> hyper_ch: the bot is down
[03:03] <Jucato> hm.. still warming up
[03:03] <hyper_ch> ok :)
[03:03] <hyper_ch> <-- sometimes a bit impatient :)
[03:03] <ScarFreewill> !ati | ScarFreewill
[03:03] <ubotu> ping: network unreachable
[03:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:04] <mc__> hyper_ch: i think you didt not install you driver correctly
[03:04] <hyper_ch> mc__: hmmm, start over from scratch?
[03:04] <ubotu> ScarFreewill: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:04] <mc__> hyper_ch: it seams like its still loading the glx module from the nv driver
[03:05] <hyper_ch> mc__: how did you see that? the nvidia-glx mod is not installed
[03:06] <ypsila> mc__: warum unterhaltet ihr euch nicht auf #kubuntu-de? ;-)
[03:07] <malandrvjs> how can copy something to mounted windows partition?
[03:07] <instructor> What file system
[03:07] <malandrvjs> ntfs
[03:08] <instructor> !ntfs
[03:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:08] <instructor> !fuse
[03:08] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:08] <mc__> ypsila: is usner englisch so schlecht? ^^
[03:09] <malandrvjs> and to copy something to mounted partition?
[03:11] <instructor> malandrvjs: Second link
[03:11] <malandrvjs> but there is not documentation for kubuntu? becouse I was trying alot of thing from ubuntu documentation on kubuntu and some of them are diferent
[03:11] <ypsila> mc__: not at all, but some things will work better in your motherlanguage, and those who do not understand englisch get a little help too ;-)
[03:12] <ubuntu> linux boot partition can be logical partition?I can boot from logical partition.
[03:13] <visik7> ubuntu: yes you can
[03:14] <ubuntu> can I test grub install ok?
[03:16] <instructor> malandrvjs: Where are they different?
[03:16] <yeti> any native english speakers in here :) ? i'd like to know what "on the night of 6 Dec" means - does it mean the night from 6-7 Dec or the night from 5-6 Dec?
[03:17] <mc__> yeti: the night form 6-7
[03:17] <Tm_T> yeti: I'm not native but I think it's 6-7
[03:17] <Tm_T> Hmh, I'm too old for this.
[03:18] <ypsila> yeti: Nikolaus!
[03:18] <mnoir> on the night of xx means the night that starts (darkness) on xxx
[03:18] <mnoir> xx=xxx
[03:19] <instructor> yeti: 6-7
[03:20] <scott> In Kubuntu Dapper, I want to allow another user (my daughter) to mount/unmount and otherwise have access to a USB flash drive. Which group do I need to add her to?
[03:22] <_abbenormal> where can i find a daily cd iso with the newest kernel on it like 2.6.19-rc3 or newer
[03:22] <KomiaPoika> scott: it will auto mount the key in kde if you just plug it in and click mount device
[03:22] <KomiaPoika> you only need root to unmount it
[03:23] <KomiaPoika> may be she can remove the key the dirty way and it will still work
[03:23] <scott> KomiaPoika: it does for my username, but it doesn't for her. I need to check my wife's account and see if it works there.  Will report back with error message in a moment.
[03:23] <ypsila> German speaking people are welcome to #kubuntu-de
[03:23] <instructor> scott: What groups are you in?
[03:25] <instructor> Hooray we did it again! :)
[03:25] <scott> scott adm cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin family
[03:25] <scott> kate : kate disk cdrom floppy plugdev admin family
[03:26] <scott> I added her to plugdev, thinking that might be it.  And then even admin (althought I didn't really want to).
[03:26] <scott> Still doesn't work.
[03:27] <instructor> logged her out and back in?
[03:27] <crusty> hallo there!     any halp about kubuntu and scanner agfa 1212p??????
[03:27] <instructor> !scanner
[03:27] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[03:27] <scott> Nope.  Maybe that's what's missing.
[03:27] <crusty> thanks ubutu
[03:27] <crusty> i think i know you already
[03:28] <malandrvjs> I`m trying to use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse instructions to mount windows partition but I get erro like: sudo: ntfs: command not found
[03:28] <crusty> unlikelly my line went down last time
[03:28] <Tm_T> malandrvjs: Ehm.
[03:28] <Tm_T> !ntfs
[03:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:29] <ylz_> someone by chance tried to install edgy-server-x64 on a SunFire X4100?
[03:30] <ypsila> herbert: wie wre es mit #kubuntu-de ? ;-)
[03:31] <instructor> Tm_T: he can mount he just wants to write into it
[03:31] <instructor> malandrvjs: Oh I should point out that NTFS writing is dangerous :
[03:33] <instructor> Tm_T: shouldn't that page be updated?
[03:33] <ubuntu__> i feel stupid for forgetting this, and not knowing where i learned it, but how do i get a list of proccesses that are running and there pid?
[03:33] <instructor> don't we have ntfs3g now?
[03:33] <instructor> ubuntu__: What do you want it for?
[03:33] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[03:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[03:33] <Jucato> !fuse
[03:33] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:34] <instructor> Those are all dapper :-(
[03:34] <ubuntu__> to manualy kill a preccess that freezez
[03:34] <ubuntu> linux boot partition can be logical partition?I can boot from logical partition us grub.
[03:34] <instructor> ubuntu__: try ps aux | grep <process name>
[03:34] <ubuntu> linux boot partition can be logical partition?I can boot from logical partition use grub.
[03:34] <instructor> ubuntu: Not that I know of :(
[03:34] <ubuntu__> ah, ps that's what i'm looking for
[03:34] <instructor> I could be ignorant though
[03:35] <instructor> ubuntu__: You could also use top :)
[03:35] <instructor> I like konversation
[03:35] <Jucato> ubuntu: yes. it can be any kind of partition. it's recommended to keep the /boot directory/partition within the first 8GBs of the hard drive, though
[03:35] <instructor> I just realised tab completion puts the person who spoke last at the top of the list
[03:35] <ubuntu__> thanks
[03:35] <Jucato> ubuntu__: you can also use Ctrl+Esc (KSysGuard)
[03:36] <instructor> so I can answer ubuntu__ and ubuntu with speed and ease :)
[03:36] <ubuntu> jucato:you have tried?
[03:36] <Jucato> or if it's just a graphical app, you can use Ctrl+Alt+Esc to use xkill
[03:36] <ubuntu__> ksysgaurd only closes proccesses in my user name
[03:36] <ubuntu__> i want to shut down a root proccess
[03:36] <Jucato> ubuntu__: ah, yeah, "sudo killall <processname>" or "kdesu ksysguard"
[03:37] <Jucato> ubuntu: yes. I've tried it before
[03:37] <instructor> Does anyone read commit-digest?
[03:37] <JohnFlux> ubuntu_: I think I added support for killing root processes to ksysguard in the latest kde3 release
[03:37] <JohnFlux> ubuntu_ i can't remember if I back ported it from kde4
[03:38] <Jucato> JohnFlux: even without root privileges?
[03:38] <JohnFlux> Jucato: it should prompt for the root password
[03:38] <Jucato> ah let me try :)
[03:39] <Jucato> hm.. what's a nice process to kill..
[03:39] <napa-> How can I make my internet access available automatically everytime I start Kubuntu - At the moment I have to go to system settings, choose network configuration , and disable/enable my connection to get IP  from DHCP
[03:39] <malandrvjs> I can see the windows partition but I can`t copy a file to windows partition
[03:39] <ubuntu> my boot partition is position after  10G and my linux system partition is the last logical partition.I can boot it using grub.
[03:40] <Jucato> JohnFlux: nope, doesn't work in KDE 3.5.5, I think
[03:40] <_abbenormal> enable the network at boot time
[03:40] <ubuntu> i cann't boot it using grub.
[03:40] <JohnFlux> Jucato: hmm :/
[03:40] <instructor> !ntfs3g | malandrvjs
[03:40] <Jucato> ubuntu: are you getting a GRUB 18 error?
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <instructor> !fuse | malandrvjs
[03:40] <ubotu> malandrvjs: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:40] <ubuntu> no