[12:59] <nosrednaekim> in case anyone was wondering.. performance with the new ATI driver is better.
[02:08] <jjesse> ok after gone for pretty much  a week i'm back for a bit
[02:09] <Jucato> hi jjesse! :)
[02:09] <jjesse> thanks Jucato
[02:10] <nixternal> jjesse: got your email, sitting in class learning how to do...hold on, let me know think about what class I am in :)
[02:10] <jjesse> grin thats funny
[02:10] <Jucato> moin nixternal! :)
[02:11] <nixternal> ya, to bad my grammar is awful
[02:11] <jjesse> umm asp.net class?
[02:13] <nixternal> hell no!
[02:13] <nixternal> javascript, adv. html, adv. css stuff
[02:18] <jjesse> zoned out for a bit, how is class?
[02:23] <nixternal> boring
[02:23] <nixternal> I am almost zoning out, but I am chatting with the x-wife right now
[02:23] <nixternal> she found out my handle and now she is stalking
[02:24] <jjesse> funy thing is that i'm chatting with your x-wife as well
[02:24] <nixternal> holy smokes, so you are that guy
[02:24] <jjesse> grin :)
[02:25] <Jucato> O.o
[02:25] <nixternal> truthfully, I didn't think you looked like a gremlin..she is rude :p
[02:25] <jjesse> grin not a total gremlin
[02:25] <nixternal> haha
[02:27] <jjesse> man i love the family guy
[02:27] <jjesse> and here in toronto family guy and simpsons are on like other half hour
[02:28] <jjesse> on all the channels that i get in the hotel
[02:28] <nixternal> nice
[02:54] <jjesse> nixternal: where do we stand for string freeze?
[02:54] <nixternal> like right now
[02:54] <nixternal> I need to do some touching up and that will be it
[02:54] <jjesse> what i meant is how are we doing?
[02:54] <nixternal> I have been stranded all week w/o internet, so I couldn't do anything
[02:55] <jjesse> and i've been swamped w/ work for 3 weeks :(
[02:56] <nixternal> argh, our stupid government hasn't said if I can miss school yet
[02:56] <jjesse> argh :)
[02:56] <nixternal> I told my x that I might be in boston that week and she was going to come up for the weekend
[02:56] <jjesse> just heard from my boss today, need to email
[02:56] <nixternal> nice
[03:14] <ryanakca> Jucato: thanks :)
[05:49] <Kubuntero> hi Jucato
[09:08] <_StefanS_> morning!
[09:09] <_StefanS_> happy day , sun is shining.
[09:10] <Jucato> yay! :)
[09:10] <Jucato> too bad I don't have questions for today :)
[09:19] <Jucato> PPA & Packaging class tonight...
[09:26] <_StefanS_> hehe
[09:29] <Jucato> always nice to have Hobbsee brighten your day more, eh _StefanS_? :)
[09:30] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:43] <Jucato> ugh! raining while sun is shining brightly
[09:44] <Hobbsee> you havent moved to singapore, have you?
[09:45] <Hobbsee> sounds about normal for there - no idea about wider asia, though
[09:45] <Jucato> it's a bit common here too... but the sticky, humid feeling that it brings is so...
[10:58] <hunger> How can I stop the strigi desktop search applet from being loaded?
[10:58] <hunger> It is rather useless with it looking for filenames only.
[10:59] <jeroenvrp> goodmornign folks
[11:00] <jeroenvrp> what am I doing wrong: see bug #139319
[11:00] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 139319 in update-manager "Update-manager (from Feisty to Gutsy) crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139319
[11:24] <mhb> hi developers
[11:25] <allee> morning mhb
[11:26] <Jucato> hi mhb! hi allee!
[11:27] <mhb> hi allee, do you still like me after criticising your favourite photo management app?   What was you failed try to piss me off :)
[11:31] <mhb> allee: my blog post at planet.ubuntu.com tried to do it, but I am happy that it failed .o)
[12:55] <Hobbsee> hm - why does ktorrent not install any documentation?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> thats nixternal's fault ;)
[01:52] <allee> mhb: hey, good.  I more or less agree with you.    Problem is that I know digikam too often to not realize them anymore ;)
[01:53] <Lure> allee: did you try new libgphoto2? It fixed the problem for me...
[02:01] <nixternal> Hobbsee: because ktorrent doesn't have any documentation - which they have been saying for a year now that they are almost done with it
[02:01] <Hobbsee> ah right
[02:38] <mhb> allee: thanks for the support! But it seems that most users are against UI changes - after all, it works for them, so they see no point in it
[03:00] <allee> mhb: UI will be review before first KDE 4.0 release.  I'll ping you when the discussion start (and I find the time to read the ml)
[03:05] <mhb> allee: ah, thank you
[03:56] <manchicken> Hmm... some very strange behavior from kontact today.
[03:58] <manchicken> I select all and shift-delete from my Junk Mail folder, and it puts a line through all the items and changes all the subjects to "No Subject"
[03:59] <manchicken> I'll see what happens after these updates.
[04:27] <manchicken> Bug #117363 seems to be an issue with kmail indexing files that are not there.
[04:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117363 in kdepim "Kontact/KMail recieved SIGSEGV while deleting message..." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117363
[04:29] <manchicken> I've updated the bug with the info I noticed.
[04:40] <bddebian> Heya
[04:41] <Jucato> hiya bddebian!
[04:42] <bddebian> Hi Jucato
[04:48] <n8k99> Hi Jucato
[04:48] <Jucato> n8k99!! :)
[04:48] <n8k99> hehe
[07:03] <coreymon77> hi guys
[07:03] <coreymon77> quick question about that team report you guys want me to do
[07:04] <coreymon77> do you just want me to list key points about tribe 6?
[07:04] <Hobbsee> oh yes, i had some questinos for you, too
[07:04] <coreymon77> as in, summarize the release notes for tribe 6
[07:04] <coreymon77> or more stuff too
[07:04] <Hobbsee> we're not having a formal t6 release...
[07:07] <coreymon77> i mean this
[07:08] <coreymon77> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe6/Kubuntu
[07:08] <coreymon77> do you just want me to summarize this for the team report
[07:08] <coreymon77> or something else
[07:12] <coreymon77> hello?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> polo!
[07:13] <coreymon77> fish out of water!
[07:13] <coreymon77> ;)
[07:13] <DaSkreech> dag nab it!
[07:13] <DaSkreech> stupid noisy flippers
[07:14] <Hobbsee> oh, the team report that jono wanted?
[07:15] <coreymon77> ya
[07:15] <coreymon77> you guys asked me to do it
[07:16] <Hobbsee> good question
[07:16] <Hobbsee> i dont remember the answer currently, and i'm attempting to go to bed
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Night Hobbsee
[07:17] <Hobbsee> night!
[07:17] <Jucato> sweet dreams of pink ponies Hobbsee!
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Pink?
[07:19] <Hobbsee> mmm...ponies
[07:19] <Jucato> :)
[07:20] <Jucato> we have to fight for the P release to be named like that
[07:20] <Jucato> we lost the hungry hippo :(
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Yeah well Hippos are dangerous
[09:36] <manchicken_> Riddell-awa: ping?
[09:41] <mhb> manchicken_: expect a reply in a week or so
[09:41] <manchicken_> Ah.
[09:41] <manchicken_> heh
[09:41] <manchicken_> That's some serious latency.
[09:41] <mhb> manchicken_: some other people are here to help you, though :o)
[09:41] <manchicken_> I just wanted to know if his Adept branch was up to date.
[09:42] <manchicken_> We need bzr branches for all packages :)
[11:13] <manchicken> Okay, so this is crazy.  I have all of the KDE4 packages installed, but there is no /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
[11:16] <nixternal> that rocks!
[11:19] <stdin> manchicken: you need the new package kdebase-workspace
[11:20] <manchicken> Ooh.
[11:20] <manchicken> Does that take care of all the environmental stuff for you, too?
[11:20] <stdin> no, you have to edit it to set the path and stuff
[11:21] <stdin> and there'll be not kicker too, and no replacement :p
[11:21] <manchicken> Okay.
[11:22] <manchicken> Is kicker going away, or is it just missing?
[11:22] <manchicken> I'm guessing plasma would take over where kicker leaves.
[11:22] <nixternal> OK, where are my core-devs at? I have a kubuntu-docs package that needs to get uploaded asap
[11:22] <manchicken> Your core-devs?  That sounds dirty.
[11:23] <nixternal> today, well yesterday at 00:00:00, string freeze went into effect
[11:23] <nixternal> it is dirty, especially when they don't respond
[11:51] <manchicken> Yeah, so kde4 is not so good right now.  heh
[11:58] <stdin> it's more stable, if you can't do anything with it it's hard to break :p
[11:58] <Tm_T> stdin: my KDE4 doesnt crash
[11:58] <Tm_T> ...because it doesnt run
[11:59] <stdin> I was about to guess that ;)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> qdbus lock up?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: bug 139483 , is that your issue as well?
[12:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139483 in ubuntu "qdbus deadlock when starting kde4" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139483
[12:18] <gnomefreak> oh shit brb someone is yelling at me :(
[12:19] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: no, I haven't compiled my KDE4 in weeks
[12:19] <kwwii> if you were married that would be your wife
[12:23] <gnomefreak> kwwii: im not married to her yet and i already want a divorce :(
[12:24] <gnomefreak> for gutsy i still need to follow http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php?
[12:28] <kwwii> lol
[12:29] <gnomefreak> the instructions are a bit confusing whom ever wrote the announcment
[12:29] <gnomefreak> whomever*
[12:30] <gnomefreak> example: you have to run the export commands and place the export commands at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde
[12:30] <gnomefreak> shouldnt usr/lib do that for you?
[12:32] <stdin> the kde4 libs aren't in /usr/lib, they're in /usr/lib/kde4/lib
[12:32] <stdin> so it needs those exports to work
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ah


[00:23] <MohammadAleppo> Arabic?
[00:23] <avihay> !ar
[00:23] <avihay> ...
[00:23] <avihay> !languages
[00:24] <MohammadAleppo> Ok I am Arabic
[00:25] <MohammadAleppo> Thanks
[00:26] <avihay> !lb
 Thanks
[00:38] <sneila90> How do I install libftdi from source and make apt-get understand that it is installed? 8.10 and LMCE. Need libftdi >=0.17. Has 0.17 all the way to 0.20
[01:06] <cassio> Hi. is there a way to rearrange my open applications tabs on the bottom panel in kde 4?
[01:32] <avihay> theoretically, yes, but I found it buggy, and stopped using the default taskmanager
[02:05] <green_> gar
[02:06] <green_> has anyone ever seen this: Qt: Session management error: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
[02:07] <green_> gar help please
[02:08] <bazhang> with what
[02:08] <green_> can't get an application to run. same error message: Qt: Session management error: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
[02:08] <bazhang> which application
[02:08] <green_> tor
[02:08] <bazhang> with irc?
[02:09] <green_> nope firefox
[02:09] <bazhang> but you're on irc; would not that mean all of your connections are through tor
[02:09] <green_> no. I can't get tor running
[02:11] <green_> tor/vidalia/firefox comes as a bundle with an easy start .sh to start firefox
[02:11] <green_> when I open in a terminal I get that qt message
[02:12] <green_> any ideas?
[02:13] <rtdos> how do i disable the GUI login for Kubuntu and use a text based login?
[02:13] <bazhang> !nox
[02:15] <rtdos> is there anyway to make this permanent?
[02:16] <bazhang> did you read the link?
[02:22] <rtdos> yes. but i'm gathering it's only temp setting.
[05:13] <brad__> suggestions for  a screen recording program? as in , recording full video and not just pics
[05:14] <bazhang> kazam
[06:19] <skramer_> I want to set up SAMBA on my PC running Oneiric and KDE 4.8.1. However, I can´t seem to find the SAMBA configuration und System Settings. Am I missing anything?
[06:20] <avihay> I think you need to install a KCM that isn't installed by default
[06:20] <avihay> or you can edit samba's config files with a text editor
[06:23] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[06:25]  * benonsoftware wonders what show
[06:25] <skramer_> avihay: The KCM should have been installed together with kdenetwork-filesharing. Maybe it´s in another package now...
[06:44] <coder2> Hello. I had to install natty kernel from lucid backports, but system do not shutdown anymore, just rebooting instead. Please help.
[06:50] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:56] <skramer_> anybody else experienced problems with"mailto:..." links in rekonq? For me, it opens a new tab giving an error message, while Konqueror normally opens an new empty e-mail...
[07:04] <wifioregon> I need to buy a good laptop that works well with kubuntu. Any particluar models better then others? Are there any companies that sell laptops with kubuntu already installed, since I'm going to erase windows anyways? THANKS
[07:06] <lordievader> wifioregon, not sure if there are vendors who install kubuntu on their machines, RedHat is I believe more common, however you could try to get a machine without an OS installed. Sometimes vendors do sell those, lowers cost because Windows doesn't need to be bought
[07:07] <hateball> wifioregon: depends on where you are located
[07:07] <lordievader> wifioregon, I guess this will be usefull: http://www.linlap.com/
[07:07] <wifioregon> Thanks lordievader: someone was just telling me that PC's without OS's are the same price. Is that true?
[07:07] <wifioregon> THanks!!
[07:07] <hateball> there is system76 for US/UK folk
[07:08] <wifioregon> Very helpful thanks
[07:08] <lordievader> wifioregon, really? That is kind of strange...
[07:08] <wifioregon> lordievader:  Just what someone said
[07:08] <wifioregon> Im going to do the research
[07:08] <hateball> Depends where you shop
[07:08] <hateball> Either way, the refund you can fight to get isnt all that much
[07:09] <hateball> For me personally it's more of a statement thing not to buy with Windows preinstalled
[07:09] <lordievader> I don't really care, I use both anyways...
[07:10] <lordievader> I still don't trust Wine to do photography or audio applications
[07:11] <wifioregon> I install a copy of XP with virtual box just for the very rare occasions I need to run something that wine wont handle
[07:11] <hateball> One could argue there are native alternatives ;)
[07:11] <hateball> And Wine is really good these days
[07:11] <wifioregon> yea Wine rocks now
[07:11] <wifioregon> I'm able to play all kinds of crazy games with it
[07:12] <lordievader> Oh well, lets not start the whole linux vs windows discussion again.
[07:13] <wifioregon> k
[07:13] <lordievader> wifioregon, good luck on your search!
[07:13] <wifioregon> Thanks!
[07:14] <wifioregon> that linlap.com site is amazing!
[07:45] <axel_alt> akonadi
[07:58] <skramer_> !kdenetwork-filesharing
[07:59] <skramer_> !samba
[09:15] <MacSeal> hi,i have problem with encoding on this plasmoid http://imagebin.org/205670 . with plasmoidviewer sm_hdd is right ,is possible fix it ?
[10:05] <philippe46> привет всем
[11:09] <aboudreault> I was wondering if kubuntu would be stable some day (using 11.10). getting issue with when a wake up my pc (total freeze) and now I lose my mouse icon
[11:09] <aboudreault> do you have those issue too?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:28] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning
[12:29] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:30] <hateball> aboudreault: suspend and hibernate are fickle beasts, that's all I know
[12:30] <aboudreault> k :(
[12:33] <hateball> In my experience, what little it is, suspend to ram works better
[12:33] <hateball> the iwlagn driver tends to crap itself, that's about as far as my issues go
[13:14] <merlin1991> hey I've messed with my xorg.conf and it got broken to a point where I only could remove it
[13:14] <merlin1991> now I need the default one back (it had one device, but that's all I remember)
[13:15] <merlin1991> where could I get the default from?
[13:16] <tsimpson> there is no default, by default X detects your hardware and configuration automatically
[13:16] <merlin1991> well maybe the nvidia blob package brought something in
[13:17] <merlin1991> I never created one myself, but prior to my editing attempt there was one
[13:19] <tsimpson> does X start anyway, without the xorg.conf?
[13:19] <merlin1991> it does, but has ugly artifacts on the loadscreen (the dots)
[13:19] <BluesKaj> merlin1991,  nvidia creates it's own config file , sudo nvida-xconfig
[13:20] <merlin1991> BluesKaj: hm that generated way more stuff than I had prior
[13:20] <merlin1991> BluesKaj: remember my realtek nic problem?
[13:21] <merlin1991> well mainline isn't stable enough, yesterday it came back :/
[13:24] <BluesKaj> merlin1991,  you'll have to refresh my memory ..mainline?
[13:24] <merlin1991> nic driver for my realtek in mainline creates problems
[13:24] <merlin1991> but the module from the realtek page works like a charm
[13:34] <BluesKaj> merlin1991,  ok , then use that
[13:34] <merlin1991> BluesKaj: is there some way to have the module compiled with each kernel upgrade?
[13:35] <merlin1991> I'm getting tired of having no networking with each kernel update :D
[13:36] <BluesKaj> merlin1991,  if it's a proprietary driver , I'm not sure
[13:37] <merlin1991> it's all source the package, there's got to be hook somewhere to include such a thing in kernel upgrades
[13:42] <BluesKaj> merlin1991,  there may be a deb builder which you can then use as source like a ppa , but I've never looked into that possibility
[13:49] <BluesKaj> merlin1991,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[16:06] <drdanz> Hi, I have a netbook with ubuntu installed (yes, that came with ubuntu preinstalled! \o/), I want to switch to kubuntu-netbook, so I immediately installed that, and now I want to remove all the "gnome/ubuntu" stuff
[16:07] <drdanz> sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop gnome-* is safe?
[16:08] <budashkin> .дщгпе
[16:25] <Farsaj> hello i`ve got blu faces then watchin youtube flash movie((( how i can fix it?
[16:25] <Farsaj> i'am trying reinstall but this not work for me
[16:33] <BluesKaj> Farsaj,  check your monitor clour settings
[16:33] <BluesKaj> colour
[16:35] <Farsaj> monitor is fine this problem with flash player
[16:35] <Farsaj> another video also fine
[16:39] <Farsaj> сcna you please check video on youtube((
[16:40] <Farsaj> http://pixs.ru/showimage/bluefacesp_3579134_4420198.png
[16:49] <genii-around> Farsaj: It's the video itself
[16:50] <Farsaj> genii-around> youtube
[16:50] <Farsaj> genii-around> flash movie
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Farsaj,  give us the actual url , not a screenshot , so we can test it
[16:51] <Farsaj> genii-around>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jOMRX2XKlM0
[16:52] <Farsaj> please
[16:52] <bazhang> nope, plays perfectly here
[16:52] <genii-around> Actuallu here too
[16:52] <BluesKaj> colours are fine here
[16:52] <genii-around> *actually
[16:53] <bazhang> Farsaj, what happens if you download it and play in mplayer or vlc
  ok
[16:56] <bazhang> Farsaj, what happens?
 i am downliding right now
[16:56] <Farsaj> sorry for my bad ebglish
 in vlc looks fine
[16:57] <genii-around> Looks like a vdpau issue
[16:57] <genii-around> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1078884 ( I know, archlinux, but still applicable )
 thanks
[17:02] <andras> Hallo
[17:03] <markus_> hy
[17:04] <genii-around> Farsaj: I would suggest to: create /etc/adobe directory, then make a file there mms.cfg  which contains: EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0
Unchecking that box for "Enable Hardware Acceleration" fixed the problem for me thank you
[17:06] <Farsaj> now video is fine
[17:06] <genii-around> Farsaj: Ah, good
[17:06]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[17:13] <gizmobay> I want to switch out Thunderbird. Anyone recommend kmail?
[17:15] <Farsaj> i recommend thunderbird
[17:16] <BluesKaj> kmail works for some . I couldn't get ti to work . akonaqdi seems to be the problem in my case
[17:16] <BluesKaj> akonadi
[17:16] <gizmobay> I started kmail and it gave me errors about akonaqdi
[17:16] <markus_> akonadi always quits here when I restart
[17:17] <gizmobay> Thunderbird causes my system to freeze sometimes and it cuases my screen to turn red sometimes
[17:18] <skramer_> for me, KMail works without any problem
[17:18] <genii-around> Evolution maybe
[17:18] <BluesKaj> skramer_,  what kind of email server are you cnnecting to ?
[17:19] <skramer_> BluesKaj: one is just POP3 account & another one is IMAP. No problem for both
[17:22] <gizmobay> evolution looks like TB. I will give it a go
[17:24] <skramer_> how could I make rekonq to open new e-mail editor when clicking a "mailto:..." link? Here it opens a new tab with an error message.
[17:26] <skramer_> btw: Clicking same link in Konqueror opens the new empty e-mail as expected...
[17:44] <gizmobay> skramer_: I believe you need to set a default app for email
[17:49] <sky100> wallpaper changed is lost after reboot ..cant fix it
[17:49] <sky100> any one can suggest ?
[17:50] <sky100> its only saved & gets to work after reboot if I put them manually in /home/username/.kde/share/wallpaper ....in this directory
[17:51] <loco> plop
[17:52] <sky100> loco did u hint somthing  at me ?
[17:52] <loco> no , plop is hello :)
[17:52] <sky100> oh ok
[17:53] <sky100> hi
[17:53] <sky100> dunno how I can resolve this bug ..
[17:53] <sky100> at every reboot wallpaper gets back to default ..
[17:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> it is a strange one for sure
[17:54] <sky100> mydogsnameisrudy,  i agree with ... & its been bugging me for last couple of day
[17:54] <sky100> :(
[17:54] <sky100> days*
[17:54] <skramer_> gizmobay: In system settings, I have set KMail as standard component for e-mail.
[17:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> wonder about renaming the defualt image to your image
[17:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> guessing here
[17:56] <sky100> ok mydogsnameisrudy
[17:56] <mydogsnameisrudy> like i said its  a guess
[17:56] <sky100> really i have no clue ..
[17:56] <sky100> how to get over it
[17:56] <gizmobay> skramer_: I don't have rekonq installed. I wonder if you have to set it there as well
[17:58] <skramer_> gizmobay: I did not find it in rekonq... However, I shall double check to be sure ;-)
[18:02] <BluesKaj> !plop | loco
[18:03] <BluesKaj> !info plop
[18:03] <BluesKaj> hmm
[18:03] <loco> lol
[18:03] <BluesKaj>  factoids not up to date...again
[18:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> he said its hello ;)
[18:04] <BluesKaj> plop is a bootloader for usb sticks on pcs that don't have usb boot capability in the bios :)
[18:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> ah lol
[18:04] <loco> :D
[18:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> i could use that
[18:05] <gizmobay> skramer_: I will look at rekonq in a VB
[18:06] <BluesKaj> !plpbt
[18:07] <skramer_> gizmobay: I can´ t find anything :-(
[18:08] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Sounds sort of like the boot-o-matic floppies
[18:08] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy,  look for a plpbt tarball here , http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
[18:09] <BluesKaj> yeah genii-around , think it works for floppies too
[18:09] <genii-around> rom-o-matic, rather
[18:13] <BluesKaj> I was trying to set up FreeNAS on my other pc ,which uses a usb loaded with freenas as the OS ... I couldn't get it installed and working properly because the pc has mobo probs
[18:13] <BluesKaj> and continues to do so
[18:13] <Combatjuan> I would like some help getting desktop effects working.  I've been at this for months and I feel like I'm finally close.  kubuntu 11.10, 2 nvidia quadro 295s, 3 monitors, proprietary nvidia driver.  When I enabled destop effects it works great for 10 seconds then locks up for 30 then works great for 5 then locks up for 30 (repeat x~10) then KDE crashes and goes back to kdm login.
[18:17] <Combatjuan> Ok.  I just tried it again and it worked a bit differently than usual.  Worked well for ~45 seconds.  I clicked on the KDE application launcher it froze for 30 seconds and then kicked my back to kdm.
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Combatjuan,  I really don't understand exactly what the problem is, but why a proprietary driver ? I have to ask.
[18:21] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: I guess the simple answer is that it seems to work better than me with nouveau.  I can't get any acceleration at all with nouveau.
[18:22] <Combatjuan> I'm definitely open to it, but I have 3 monitors and 2 cards and in order to get a window manager to be usable, I need some form of Xinerama (or similar).  But nouveau just flat out won't do HW acceleration + Xinerama near as I can tell.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> Combatjuan,  what about the additional drivers in kmenu>apps> system , choose the recommended nvidia driver
[18:25] <sky100> BluesKaj,  hello
[18:26] <sky100> still my wallpaper bug is unresoled
[18:26] <BluesKaj> hello sky100 ...sorry I'm out of ideas on that
[18:26] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: I didn't know about that menu.  Interesting.  So far I've tried nvidia-current, and then the official nvidia blobs (280, 290, and 295).  I'm currently using the 295 as they seem the most stable.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> nvidia-current is most likely a version of the 295 driver , Combatjuan
[18:27] <sky100> u wanted to see the Autostart screenshot last day .. if ya want to see the sanpshot I can readily post thro imagebin.. would u mind watching ?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> if it's the recommended driver?
[18:27] <sky100> BluesKaj,
[18:28] <BluesKaj> sky100,  well, ok
[18:28] <loco> in dont know why my cam dont dont work in firefox chat with flash any idea?
[18:28] <sky100> just to check if ya can get some ideas...just a chance ...
[18:28] <sky100> ok ty
[18:29] <sky100> just a min BluesKaj
[18:30] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: I think that it was 283 (or 273)?  I used that dialog to try the one it callse post-release updates (current-updates).  So I guess I'll restart and see if that works.
[18:30] <BluesKaj> Combatjuan,  ok , hope it eorks for you
[18:30] <BluesKaj> works
[18:31] <sky100> http://imagebin.org/206036 <<< BluesKaj  pls check the snapshot
[18:31] <Combatjuan> According to apt-cache, nvidia-current -> 280.13-0ubuntu6 and nvidia-current-updates-> 280.13-0ubuntu5
[18:32] <Combatjuan> Su I guess nvidia-current > nvidia-current-updates?  Maybe? That's not intuitive to me.  Either was, those are relatively old but theoretically stable drivers.  Meh.  Here goes.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> sky100,  it's odd that you have no desktop entries under "Desktop File"
[18:34] <sky100> sorry didnt get u BluesKaj
[18:34] <sky100> what normalcy is abest !
[18:35] <sky100> absent*
[18:35] <sky100> i dragged the icons on the desktop from Kmenu for my easy operation
[18:36] <loco> #CafeChat
[18:36] <loco> sorry
[18:36] <loco> mistake
[18:36] <BluesKaj> sky100,  like this , http://imagebin.org/206039
[18:37] <sky100> ok
[18:37] <Combatjuan> No luck.  The 280.13 (official nvidia-current package drivers) behave the same with desktop effects on, but seem choppier than the nvidia 295 drivers.
[18:37] <Combatjuan> s/behave/misbehave
[18:38] <sky100> so do u think that if i had an set up like that I would be able to seave wallapers even after reboot ?
[18:38] <sky100> BluesKaj, ?
[18:38] <sky100> save*
[18:39] <BluesKaj> Combatjuan,  open a terminal , sudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:40] <BluesKaj> sky100,  not sure , but it might work . However I'm on 12.04 so the Desktop entry option may not be active in 11.10. I can't recall if it is.
[18:41] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: http://paste.kde.org/449354/  I pasted in the nvidia-xconfig one and also the one that I tweaked (added Mosaic) which seems to work a bit better.
[18:41] <sky100> how to undo changes in auto start , BluesKaj
[18:41] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: You're a one-person army today.
[18:42] <sky100> i mistably removed the setting it was just came up
[18:42] <sky100> pls seuggets
[18:42] <sky100> mistakably*
[18:43] <sky100> it just came up in Auto start
[18:43] <sky100> i want to get back to previous state
[18:44] <BluesKaj> Combatjuan,  my problem with xorg.conf and multiple monitors is not much experience :(
[18:44] <sky100> which command to undo changes ?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> sky100,  what came up in autostart ?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> I know about nvidia drivers etc , but usage on multiple monitors is beyond my scope , Combatjuan
[18:46] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: I can get it working great with a single card powering one monitor, but I just can't get it working with 2 cards and > 2 monitors.  I guess there are some inherent problems in communicating the state of pixel buffers across cards.
[18:46] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: No problem.  Thanks for your attempt.
[18:46] <brad__> I have gnash installed and I'm usng firefox as my browser, and I'm sure that I've installed adobe, but every time I got to watch a video I get an install flash player sign... any ways of trouble shooting in terminal?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Combatjuan,  can you get 2 monitors on one card working ?
[18:48] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: Yes, if I use nvidia twinview.  I don't think I have tried doing that with nouveau.  But lack of a third monitor is probably a deal breaker for me.
[18:48] <sky100> http://imagebin.org/206036 <, that command
[18:49] <BluesKaj> nouveau can't handle that, Combatjuan , I'm quite sure
[18:49] <sky100> just see it & watch out the lines under SCRIPT FILE
[18:49] <sky100> by mistake i removed it
[18:49] <Combatjuan> BluesKaj: Ok.  I just headed over to #nouveau to ask.  But I was reading through their web page first.    Thanks.
[18:49] <sky100> now how to undo it
[18:52] <BluesKaj> sky100,  I don't see anything diffrent
[18:53] <sky100> gtk-default theme ,,,<<<that line
[18:53] <sky100> i removed it by nistake
[18:54] <BluesKaj> brad__,  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/adobe-flashplugin , download the plugin extract it and copy the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins with root premissions .
[18:55] <sky100> Blq ..hope u could ind what I meant
[18:55] <sky100> BluesKaj,  *
[18:56] <sky100> understand*
[18:56] <brad__> BluesKaj; thanks ill try it
[18:56] <BluesKaj> that theme file has nothing to do with the desktop entries , sky100
[19:00] <sky100> so removal wont harm anything ?
[19:01] <sky100> so i how to unlock the plasma deskyop?
[19:07] <sky100> nah ..no c;lue ....
[19:09] <sky100> ok , gotta go thax fo your co-operation , BluesKaj
[20:21] <markus_> moin
[20:22] <markus_> I just did the update and now my computer does not start anymore
[20:22] <markus_> I get to the grub
[20:22] <markus_> then it says it cannot find a file
[20:22] <markus_> tried to install the grub anew but I still get that message
[20:22] <markus_> what now?
[20:36] <BluesKaj> macele,  did you do , sudo update-grub
[20:37] <BluesKaj> oops sorry macele , wrong nick
[21:09] <`Korvin> my flash just stopped working
[21:09] <`Korvin> I can't figure out why
[21:09] <`Korvin> it says that it isn't enabled in chrome
[21:10] <`Korvin> but it is
[21:11] <loco> new version flash buggy
[21:11] <loco> reston old one
[21:12] <loco> restore
[21:13] <`Korvin> how can I do that with apt-get
[21:13] <BluesKaj> `Korvin, mkae sure you have libflashplayer.so installed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[21:14] <loco> Kalidarn:  http://www.tips5.com/how-to-uninstalldowngrade-flash-player-in-ubuntu
[21:14] <`Korvin> lues, using chroime
[21:14] <`Korvin> chrome
[21:14] <`Korvin> BluesKaj*
[21:15] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  no matter chrome looks in the mozilla plugins for flash
[21:15] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  sudo cp /pathto/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[21:16] <`Korvin> BluesKaj: I have flashplugin-alternative.so
[21:17] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,
[21:17] <BluesKaj> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/adobe-flashplugin ,
[21:17] <BluesKaj> download the plugin, extract it and copy the libflashplayer.so
[21:17] <FloodBotK1> BluesKaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <BluesKaj> ignore the floodbot :)
[21:19] <`Korvin> looks like it's installed now, but I can't load up grooveshar
[21:19] <`Korvin> grooveshark now ='[
[21:19] <`Korvin> just my luck
[21:19] <BluesKaj> youtube is the best test for flash
[21:19] <`Korvin> not really
[21:20] <`Korvin> as youtube defaults to html5
[21:20] <BluesKaj> restart chrome , of course
[21:20] <`Korvin> Yeah it works now
[21:20] <`Korvin> Of course
[21:20] <georgelappies> i cant get vim to work with the solarized color scheme for vim in Konssole... Anybody here maybe know whats the secret?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> not here it doesn't , turn off your html5 trial
[21:21] <loco> Normally,this problem is due to Flash plugin, especially 64 bit Flash plugin. You will need to check your flash plugin version and make sure that it is the latest stable version
[21:21] <`Korvin> BluesKaj: it's for sure working
[21:21] <`Korvin> it's no longer my computer =p
[21:21] <`Korvin> it's grooveshark at this point
[21:21] <BluesKaj> ok `Korvin
[21:21] <BluesKaj> got a url `Korvin
[21:22] <`Korvin> a url?
[21:22] <`Korvin> for what
[21:23] <BluesKaj> what's grooveshark ? :)
[21:24]  * BluesKaj researches
[21:26] <`Korvin> groovesahrk.com
[21:26] <`Korvin> lol
[21:26] <`Korvin> grooveshark.com*
[21:28] <BluesKaj> `Korvin,  works here
[21:30] <BluesKaj> anyway , got stuff to do ...BBL
[22:07]  * loco good night everyone
[22:30] <Tsou-L> Hello Guys.I want to Uninstall a software in Kubuntu 11.10 ..Should i do it from Muon Software Center or is there another better way to do it?
[22:34] <lethu> Tsou-L, either Muon, Apper, or the apt-get command via console
[23:01] <meerkats> what are, according to you, the advantages of kubuntu over ubuntu?
[23:01] <meerkats> faster? less resource intensive? eye candy?
[23:17] <avihay> meerkats: it comes default with KDE software so you don't need to install them from ubuntu
[23:34] <Guest58871> hi all, every time i log in i have to give the user password to allow wireless to connect, can this be done automatically?
[23:39] <lethu> Guest58871, go to "manage connections"
[23:40] <Guest58871> lethu: Hi, ok done that
[23:40] <lethu> then "other" in the left column
[23:41] <Guest58871> yep
[23:41] <lethu> Guest58871, then in "connection secrets"
[23:41] <Guest58871> ok
[23:41] <lethu> chose store either "in file (unencrypted) or "in secure storage (encrypted)"
[23:42] <lethu> Guest58871, the secure storage one may be buggy
[23:42] <lethu> in which case chose the unencrypted one
[23:42] <Guest58871> ok, its already on 'in secure storage'
[23:43] <lethu> Guest58871, does it work?
[23:43] <Guest58871> ok, let me reboot and try
[23:43] <Guest58871> back shortly
[23:43] <lethu> kk
[23:55] <aussie_matt> ok, back, that didn't work :( now the connection manager asks for my wireless password


[00:36] <stgraber> mfisch: test independent server using the code I wrote today: http://phablet.stgraber.org
[00:43] <Saviq> slangasek, sorry to be pestering you - any pointers on how to proceed http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6224905/ ?
[00:43] <slangasek> Saviq: pass -d
[00:43] <Saviq> slangasek, fails calling gcc-4.7 and friends
[00:43] <slangasek> which is "bypass build-dep checks"
[00:43] <slangasek> oh
[00:43] <slangasek> then, let's patch libhybris to fix that :)
[00:44] <Saviq> slangasek, and then at the end "C compiler cannot create executables"
[00:44] <Saviq> slangasek, I'm all ears
[00:44] <Saviq> :)
[00:47] <slangasek> Saviq: yeah, the source package needs some special handling in debian/rules... ifneq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE),$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE)) // CXX=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-g++-4.7 // CC=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-gcc-4.7 // endif
[00:47]  * Saviq does
[00:48] <slangasek> (I'm assuming those are the right target variable names, if not, then season to taste)
[00:51] <Saviq> slangasek, it's building!
[00:51] <slangasek> \o/
[00:52] <Saviq> slangasek, CC and CXX, FYI
[00:52] <slangasek> ok, good :)
[00:52] <Saviq> seems to have built, yay
[00:52] <slangasek> very nice
[00:52]  * Saviq proposes fix
[00:53] <slangasek> fwiw there's definitely a problem with cmake and cross-building, native builds install to /usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) and cross-builds install to /usr/lib.  so a lot of stuff I've been trying to cross-build this week has been failing at dh_install time because the files aren't in the right place
[00:57] <stgraber> mfisch, lool: so just finished a test flash using a system-image server which imports from the main one, repacks the needed files and add some and everything looks good. The updates are recognized as valid by system-image-cli and the upgrader.
[00:57] <stgraber> I just need to add tests for all that code and land it into trunk, probably on Tuesday, then I should be able to blog about how to run your own server (and some hints for porters)
[00:59] <Saviq> slangasek, right
[01:01] <slangasek> hmm, frustrating, my cross-built unity8 package is not displaying
[01:01] <slangasek> makes it difficult to tell if the memory leak is fixed
[01:05] <Saviq> slangasek, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/libhybris/ubuntu-cross/+merge/190778
[01:05] <Saviq> slangasek, any output?
[01:09] <Saviq> slangasek, success, that started cross-building Mir now
[01:10] <Saviq> ok... that was too fast
[01:10] <Saviq> slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224957/
[01:14] <slangasek> Saviq: "output"?
[01:14] <Saviq> slangasek, from unity8
[01:15] <slangasek> Saviq: nah, the display is completely blank.  I was out of date wrt the archive anyway, so I just updated and have the display again
[01:15] <slangasek> not gonna try to debug the cross-build itself right now, when I know cmake is currently a mess :/
[01:15] <Saviq> slangasek, ah, k - if you ever see "cannot unblank display" - press the power button and it should come back again
[01:15] <slangasek> it didn't :)
[01:15] <Saviq> slangasek, after some time, that is ;)
[01:15] <slangasek> heh
[01:16] <Saviq> slangasek, upstart will respawn unity8 that will tell powerd to unblank
[01:16] <Saviq> slangasek, that might take some 20s until you see something happening
[01:16] <Saviq> anyway
[01:16] <Saviq> 3am here, gonna go now...
[01:17] <Saviq> slangasek, thanks for all the help, no doubt I'll bug you about this again soon
[01:17] <Saviq> have a good w/end!
[01:17] <Saviq> o/
[01:17] <slangasek> Saviq: unity8 didn't die, it just didn't give any output.  as for mir, it's clearly trying to do the wrong thing by cross-installing python2.7, I'll have a look here
[01:17] <slangasek> Saviq: g'night - you too :)
[02:00] <iKillCypher> hummmm
[02:00] <iKillCypher> developers ?
[02:00] <iKillCypher> lol
[02:55] <slangasek> Saviq: sigh, cross-building mir is going to take a while, the protobuf package is a total mess wrt multiarch... I wish somebody had bothered me about this /before/ the freeze...
[04:32] <jdstrand> nik90: the apparmor policy has to be adjusted. can you point me at the failing click package?
[04:33] <jdstrand> nik90: and also file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu?
[04:38] <slangasek> Saviq: of possible interest to you - won't be pushed to the archive until T opens: lp:~vorlon/ubuntu/saucy/protobuf/multiarch
[05:27] <nhaines> Does anyone know when build 94 hits devel-proposed?
[05:34] <athairus> I've just tried flashing the latest nightly to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro), should it be stuck on the Google logo for a while?
[05:35] <athairus> I've cleared data, cache, and system using an android recovery then flashed the system image using fastboot, followed by flashing a modified ubuntu touch zip
[05:53] <athairus> flashed boot too, still stuck on the Google screen...
[05:55] <slangasek> Saviq: ok, have gotten as far as cross-installing the build-deps of mir (using protobuf from my branch, and a systemtap that I've just pushed to saucy-proposed); then of course it fails in cmake configury (can't find boost), someone else will have to take it from there
[07:09]  * snwh is back (gone 09:32:48)
[07:11] <nhaines> snwh: well, welcome back.
[07:11] <snwh> nhaines, thanks lol
[07:12] <snwh> but i never left
[07:13] <nhaines> lol
[07:17] <lool> stgraber: Hey, it /looks/ like the latest cdimage wasn't picked up by system-image?
[07:51] <Saviq> slangasek, thanks!
[08:16] <nik90> jdstrand: The failing click package clock-app in image 94
[08:16] <nik90> jdstrand: reporting bug now
[08:27] <nik90> jdstrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1239073
[11:32] <omac> In Canada, the WIND Mobile network uses a frequency called AWS, with bands 1700/2100.  Do the current nightlies for Ubuntu touch located in  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/    support AWS?
[11:33] <omac> My intent is to purchase a Google LG Nexus 4(mako) for 250$CA in the coming days, but want to ensure the UBUNTU touch will work with AWS first.  Wind Mobile offers unlimited mobile data for 33$CA/month.
[11:36] <popey> omac: is that GSM?
[11:36] <omac> My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 and it rocks, but I would prefer to get a phone model that Ubuntu Touch supports from the get-go.  From what I understand the better spec from the listed mako, grouper, maguro, manta is the mako and it comes with 16GB of storage.
[11:38] <popey> yeah, i have the mako
[11:38] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices
[11:38] <omac> popey are you in Canada?
[11:38] <popey> nope
[11:39] <popey> UK
[11:39] <omac> Do you use Wind mobile?
[11:39] <omac> k.
[11:39] <omac> I know in UK they use GSM.
[11:39] <popey> Yeah, that's why I asked if Wind is GSM
[11:40] <omac> We don't have GSM in Canada.  The GSM frequencies might be used for a different protocol in Canada.
[11:41] <omac> I know that Galaxy S4 works on Wind Mobile.  My wife has it.
[11:41] <popey> ah that's LTE?
[11:41] <omac> yeah, it rocks.
[11:41] <popey> I don't think we support that yet.
[11:45] <omac> On November 23, 2012, it was confirmed that, through modifying device settings, it was possible for the device to use LTE Band 4 (AWS).[2]
[11:46] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_4
[11:46] <popey> pretty sure a firmware updated undid that
[11:47] <omac> I did get it confirmed at Wind Mobile that they do offer Nexus 4 devices with android that run on their network.
[11:47] <omac> My question is do the Ubuntu Touch current images have support for modifying the phone to use AWS?
[11:48] <popey> I dont think we've tested that. Not sure we have any developers in Canada
[11:48] <popey> So I couldn't say it does.
[11:49] <omac> Well let's put it this way.  LG Nexus 4 works on Android on Wind Mobile.
[11:49] <omac> Wind Mobile in Canada is only AWS protocol.  Nothing else.
[11:50] <omac> So if android has support for AWS built-in the LG-Nexus firmware, then ubuntu touch should be able to take advantage of it right?
[11:51] <popey> I wouldn't speculate on that
[11:52] <popey> Someone needs to try it.
[11:52] <omac> I don't have 250$ handy to buy the phone to try it.
[11:56] <omac> If someone had an LG Nexus 4 phone with Android installed and WindMobile Sim activated, does the ubuntu touch team have enough know-how to get the info necessary to make it happen and then send the phone back?  I could make the sacrifice, but I wouldn't be living with the phone until the ubuntu touch team returned it to me.
[11:57] <omac> What's the physical mailing address to send this kind of hardware?  I'm not asking for a specific person's name, but it would be necessary to send it to someone.
[11:57] <omac> From what I hear ubuntu is located in Isle of Man now.
[12:00] <popey> No, we're all around the world
[12:00] <popey> isle of man is just where the company is registered
[12:00] <popey> I would recommend sending a mail to the phone mailing list.
[12:00] <popey> see if anyone else has tried
[12:01] <popey> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/
[12:01] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone join that team to subscribe to the mailing list
[12:40] <AskUbuntu> Is there an 'offical' way to store date in uTouch-Apps? | http://askubuntu.com/q/357126
[13:15] <lucenut> Hey folks. Kinda struggling with ubuntu-touch on my nexus 10.
[13:16] <lucenut> Is there a "Software Center" type place to get apps?
[13:18] <ogra_> "more suggestions" on the applications page
[13:19] <popey> lucenut: you need to login to ubuntu one account in system settings to reveal more suggestions
[13:19] <ogra_> popey, oh, is that new ?
[13:19] <popey> well, i mis-spoke
[13:19] <popey> you need to login to be able to install
[13:19] <ogra_> right
[13:19] <ogra_> content should still be there
[13:20] <lucenut> I have logged into ubuntu one. Just not sure how to get something like skype for instance.
[13:20] <lucenut> I type "skype" into the search box and nothing happens.
[13:20] <ogra_> you need to be patient ... (probably very patient) ... until someone offers it :)
[13:20] <lucenut> Ah.
[13:21] <popey> skype isnt yet available
[13:21] <ogra_> (read: there is nothing more than you can see when expanding the "more suggestions" category)
[13:21] <lucenut> So these "apps" are not the same programs that ran on other ubuntu?
[13:21] <popey> the store on the phone is not the same as the ubuntu software centre
[13:21] <ogra_> right, the phone does not have an Xserver (like android doesnt) ...
[13:21] <ogra_> most graphical apps need X
[13:22] <ogra_> (from the SW center i mean)
[13:22] <lucenut> Anyone know if the developer preview will "update" into the real release after the 17th?
[13:22] <ogra_> yes
[13:22] <ogra_> ubuntu touch is kind of a "rolling release", you will constantly get updates
[13:22] <popey> OH NOES! He said the R word!
[13:22]  * popey emails omgubuntu
[13:22] <ogra_> haha
[13:23] <lucenut> My brightness goes half after about 30 seconds, then screen shuts off after another 30.
[13:23] <popey> sounds about right
[13:23] <lucenut> How can I change that?
[13:23] <popey> power saving in action
[13:23] <popey> not sure that's hooked up to the GUI yet
[13:23] <ogra_> you cant yet (missing feature) ...
[13:23] <lucenut> K
[13:23] <popey> might need to futz around in the command line to do that
[13:23] <ogra_> nope
[13:23] <popey> ah okay
[13:24] <ogra_> there is no mechanism to store such settings yet
[13:24] <lucenut> Is this browser Firefox?
[13:24] <lucenut> Or is FF available?
[13:24] <popey> nope
[13:24] <ogra_> nope, a newly written one from scratch
[13:24] <popey> feel free to ask firefox for a port ☻
[13:24] <ogra_> and no, FF isnt available
[13:24] <ogra_> (yet)
[13:24] <ogra_> :)
[13:25] <lucenut> Is the "Messaging" app for instant messaging?
[13:25] <popey> thats sms
[13:25] <ogra_> we're only nearing the v1.0 release, i guess nobody will want to port before this is out
[13:25] <lucenut> Ah
[13:25] <ogra_> so they can rely on a half way stablke API
[13:26]  * ogra_ bets 14.04 will have a good bunch of 3rd party apps too
[13:26] <lucenut> Is there any instant messaging?
[13:27] <lucenut> I typed "instant mess" and get nothing.
[13:27] <popey> like msn/yahoo? no, not that I'm aware of
[13:27]  * popey already has "instant mess"
[13:27] <lucenut> IRC...
[13:27] <popey> you should see my desk
[13:27] <popey> not yet, I expect some of those to arrive after we release 13.10
[13:27] <ogra_> friends offers some IM, doesnt it ?
[13:27] <popey> not tried it
[13:27]  * ogra_ neither
[13:28] <lucenut> Anyone know dual boot is going to be available? As it is I can't do much of anything.
[13:28] <lucenut> The browser is OK.
[13:29] <lucenut> The Facebook app is bad.
[13:29] <ogra_> well, its the browser too :)
[13:29] <ogra_> it is essentially the mobile website i think
[13:29]  * ogra_ doesnt use facewbook, but the G+ app is like that
[13:30] <lucenut> What do you do when something like FB is running in the smaller pane on the right side of the screen?
[13:30] <lucenut> How do you make it fullscreen?
[13:31] <lucenut> I haven't figured out how to shuffle multiple apps I guess.
[13:31] <ogra_> you swipe from the right
[13:32] <lucenut> Nope. I closed the other apps and opened just FB and it's stuck in the right side. Swiping from the right does nothing.
[13:32] <popey> swipe in from right works if you have more than one app open
[13:33] <ogra_> right. what would you swipe to if there is only one app
[13:33] <lucenut> This is the only app I have open
[13:34] <lucenut> I will need this dual-boot or the family will kill me.
[13:34] <lucenut> I just tried this while on the road for a week.
[13:34]  * popey installs 94 on grouper
[13:35] <popey> well, updates
[13:35] <popey> I properly love this new update system
[13:36]  * ogra_ too
[13:36] <lucenut> I don't think I like the music thing. Do lots of linux-heads feel the need to buy Britney Spears new album?
[13:37] <Amarrero> Can I run unbuntu touch on my galaxy tab 3 10.1
[13:38] <popey> lucenut: i might, for my daughter
[13:38] <popey> lucenut: you can easily switch off the online components by turning off the specific dash bits
[13:38] <lucenut> I would be more interested in being shown how to transfer MY music onto this device.
[13:39] <ogra_> just plug it into your desktop
[13:39] <popey> yeah, drag and drop
[13:39] <ogra_> it should pop up a filemanager
[13:39] <popey> \o/
[13:40] <popey> eek, grouper just started flickering madly
[13:41] <lucenut> OK, I just signed into a google account.
[13:41] <lucenut> But the screen is so tiny now and it won't zoom.
[13:41] <lucenut> Can't "confirm" it.
[13:45] <popey> i like the new preview transitions in the dash
[14:51] <B13B> did phablet just update for support of the nexus 7 2013?
[15:10] <popey> B13B: no
[15:48] <OrokuSaki> Going to swap qcom/media-legacy for someone elses... I think that is the best idea yet
[16:05] <chiefw0tj> Did anyone else notice ubuntu touch slow down after the last update, or is is just me?
[16:06] <RobbyF> yeah its using MIR now and hasnt been optimized
[16:07] <OrokuSaki> when  did unity go to Mir by default? what date?
[16:08] <RobbyF> build 90~92 ish
[16:08] <OrokuSaki> rootfs... 10-10-2013?
[16:08] <OrokuSaki> does that have mir by default?
[16:09] <OrokuSaki> tablet charging right now.. oh that would be sweet
[16:09] <RobbyF> oct 10th on devel proposed
[16:09] <OrokuSaki> ahhh so not on release okay
[16:09] <RobbyF> I havn't done much in the last few days so i'm not sure if it's regular release yet.
[16:09] <RobbyF> but I'd assume its there.
[16:10] <OrokuSaki> when it powers on I will see if surfaceflinger is running. =)
[16:11] <OrokuSaki> yep.. its running
[16:11] <OrokuSaki> flinger
[16:45] <sbm> hi. can somebody help me with porting UT for S4 i9505?
[16:50] <sbm> i have multiple error: messages on hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/amix.c compilation. Like this: hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/alsa_pcm.c:910:9: error: return makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Werror]
[16:50] <sbm> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
[16:55] <JHOSMAN_> As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal)
[17:22] <chiefw0tj> Sorry...had to step away for a bit.  Cool, so the slow down is caused by Mir not being optimized yet.  Got it.
[17:22] <chiefw0tj> I have pretty high hopes for this OS so far.
[17:55] <JHOSMAN_> As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal)
[17:56] <JHOSMAN_> mhall119: ¿
[18:01] <slangasek> JHOSMAN_: that's a rather broad question.  Do you mean a project created using the Ubuntu SDK?
[18:03] <slangasek> ogra_: so https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/session-manager-touch/pulseaudio-expect-daemon/+merge/190788 is still marked 'needs review'... is that something you could merge / upload?  I don't have commit rights on that branch.
[18:04] <avesnce> can sombody help with compilation UT for i9505 10.1? i have this error
[18:04] <avesnce> hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/arec.c:435:30: error: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Werror=sign-compare]
[18:04] <avesnce> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
[18:06] <avesnce> this errors amount about 50
[18:31] <ogra_> slangasek, yes, itr needs to go through the spreadsheet first ... i added it there
[18:32] <Tassadar> ogra_: hi, are ZIP installers at cdimage.ubuntu.com deprecated, and system-image is the only way to install ubuntu touch now?
[18:32] <ogra_> Tassadar, no, it is the suppreted and default way but the zip stuff should still work (we dont test it and dont really care for bugs from there since the setup is completely different)
[18:38] <Tassadar> hm, okay, thanks, I'll try to switch to that system.img-based builds with my multiboot thingy then
[18:39] <Tassadar> *those
[18:40] <slangasek> lool: ^^ around?  can you approve this fix to the pulseaudio user session job in ubuntu-touch-session, so ogra_ can merge/upload?
[18:42] <Tassadar> ogra_: one more thing, in system-image builds you don't use device's system partition at all, it is just an .img inside /data partition, correct?
[18:43] <karni> Hey guys, I didn't expect anyone at this time. I urgently need to know (giving demo on Monday), does i18n.dtr work when launching the app from qtc?
[18:50] <popey> karni: got an example app and language? I can try it here
[18:50] <athairus> I'm having trouble getting the latest build (the 11th) to work on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro). Anyone willing to help?
[18:51] <karni> popey: yes, let me send it to you, thanks. in the mean time, I'm trying as well with Saviq
[18:51] <popey> k
[18:52] <avesnce> can somebody help me with build alsa for i9505 10.1?
[18:55] <karni> popey: Sent it to you. What we did with Saviq was to put the .mo file in /usr/share/ , but that didn't seem to help (although I'm sure it's a step forward!)
[18:56] <karni> Saviq: Can we move here? I'll be trying to make it work along as well, sent it to popey
[18:56] <Saviq> karni, yeah
[18:57] <Saviq> karni, yeah, so without .cpp - just put it in /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/domain.mo
[18:57] <karni> popey: I tried to launch it like so: export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_hint_file=.... soundboard.qml
[18:57] <karni> Saviq: gotcha
[18:57] <popey> ah
[18:57] <Saviq> karni, and then i18n.dtr("domain", "foo") should work
[18:57] <karni> popey: btw after you launch it, just press space. you should see translated "Thank you" into korean
[18:57] <karni> Saviq: trying right away!! :)
[18:58] <karni> I'm so happy you guys are here
[18:58] <popey> Saviq is gonna be more help than me ☻
[18:59] <karni> popey: I'm doing something wrong. And this is critical if I want to show off i18n at the demo, but yes, Saviq is also helping me out.
[18:59] <karni> I'm basically fighting for one i18n here, and I think it's worth showing in action.
[19:01] <karni> Saviq: sadly, I still see "Thank you"
[19:01] <karni> text: i18n.dtr("soundboard", "Thank you")
[19:01] <karni> karni@laptop:~/soundboard$ ls /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo
[19:01] <karni> /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo
[19:01] <karni> run like so: $ export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_file_hint soundboard.desktop soundboard.qml
[19:02] <Saviq> karni, let me try something
[19:02] <karni> content of the .po file at the end is
[19:02] <karni> #: soundboard.qml:58
[19:02] <karni> msgid "Thank you"
[19:02] <karni> msgstr "ê°ì¬í©ëë¤"
[19:02] <karni> If you don't see korean, ignore that. It's my screen/13.10 setup failing.
[19:02] <karni> I see korean locally
[19:02] <Saviq> yeah, I don't ;)
[19:03] <karni> Saviq: I sent you the tar, in case you want to have a look. I'll try to regenerate the mo file.
[19:04] <karni> the text shows up after you launch the app and press space
[19:07] <karni> Saviq: this might be interesting, didn't see it before
[19:08] <karni> actually, now it doesn't want to create a new .po file for me
[19:09] <karni> changed my terminal, created .po file
[19:11] <Saviq> karni, ok, so it works for pl
[19:11] <Saviq> karni, LANGUAGE=ko
[19:12] <karni> uhh
[19:12]  * karni tries
[19:12] <Saviq> karni, LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8; LANGUAGE=ko; LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-8
[19:12] <Saviq> if you want everything
[19:13] <lool> slangasek, ogra_: Looked good, approved/happroved/added to landing plan!  :-)
[19:13] <karni> yeah, I tried from scratch and it didn't work. now trying your suggestion
[19:13] <lool> slangasek, ogra_: Upload when you like to
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, sorry, I always forget there's a bunch of those
[19:13] <slangasek> ogra_: will you take care of this?  (Again, no commit rights on the branch)
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, you can always verify you have stuff set up with `locale`
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, now...
[19:13] <lool> slangasek: Hmm we should fix this, core-devs should be able to commit
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, problem is the text rendering is wrong :/
[19:14] <karni> Saviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228019/
[19:14] <slangasek> lool: that is a losing battle that I have tried fighting for years
[19:14] <karni> Saviq: I still see "Thank you" in my app. So I must have done something wrong.
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, let me send you my .mo
[19:14] <karni> this is how I create the po file: msginit -i messages.pot -o ko.po
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, and don't export everything
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, just run:
[19:14] <Saviq> LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=ko LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-8 qmlscene soundboard.qml
[19:14] <slangasek> "the authoritative source branches should always be writable by the same people who can upload" - obvious to me, but never gets done whenever a team of people who aren't core-devs need a branch :/
[19:14] <karni> Saviq: oh ok
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, to avoid stuff breaking in your bash ;)
[19:15] <lool> ogra_, slangasek: I'll update the branch and upload
[19:15] <Saviq> karni, I'm doing this on desktop, btw, not on device - let me try there
[19:15] <slangasek> lool: cheers
[19:15] <karni> Saviq: hah!! check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228023/
[19:15] <karni> Saviq: Me too, I don't "care" about the device, don't worry
[19:15] <karni> I want to demo that part on the PC
[19:16] <Saviq> karni, yeah, did you install the language pack, to generate the locale?
[19:16] <karni> yes
[19:16] <lool> slangasek, ogra_: uploded
[19:16] <karni> Let me double check that.
[19:16] <lool> *uploaded
[19:16] <Saviq> karni, log out of the console and back in, and I'm sending you my .tar back
[19:16] <karni> language-pack-ko is already the newest version
[19:16] <karni> Saviq: thanks!
[19:16] <Saviq> karni, btw, I use poedit to translate - it also generates .mo on save
[19:16] <karni> oh, nice
[19:17]  * karni awaits the tar, still not working here
[19:17] <Saviq> karni, en route, you'll have both pl.mo and ko.mo there
[19:17] <karni> Saviq: sorry to be a pain
[19:17] <karni> Saviq: great
[19:17] <Saviq> karni, you're not
[19:18] <karni> You're really helpful.
[19:18] <Saviq> karni, with that, and the .mo copied to /usr/share/locale/{pl,ko}/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo
[19:18] <Saviq> karni, ah and remember
[19:19]  * karni copies
[19:19] <Saviq> karni, you didn't have dtr("soundboard", "Thank You") in the qml
[19:19] <Saviq> karni, but tr("Thank You")
[19:19] <Saviq> karni, for that you'll need Binding { target: i18n; property: "domain"; value: "soundboard" }
[19:20] <karni> Saviq: yeah I added dtr after I sent it to popey
[19:20] <karni> dtr("soundboard", ..)
[19:20]  * karni tries
[19:21] <Saviq> karni, assuming you're using pl on your desktop - it should Just Work™ with pl translations
[19:21] <Saviq> karni, and if you change LANGUAGE - it should do Korean
[19:21] <Saviq> oh and now it even displayed correctly
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, yeah, don't export LANG
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, just LANGUAGE=ko
[19:22] <karni> Saviq: guess what. Polish works, Korean doesn't. It must be some sort of support shortage?
[19:22] <karni> Saviq: korean worked for you??
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, rather the fact that locale isn't available
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, sudo locale-gen ko_KR.UTF-8
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, the bash complaints would suggest so - and I'd log out/back in for good measure
[19:23] <karni> Saviq: 1. you're amazing 2. you're right.. rendering isn't good :<<
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, unexport LANG
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, or reset it
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, just set LANGUAGE
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, LANGUAGE=ko
[19:24] <karni> Saviq: yeah, it's working now. just the rendering.. is, well. you saw it.
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, it's good
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, without LANG
[19:24] <karni> oh
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, rendering I mean
[19:24]  * karni tries
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, scrap your termina
[19:24] <Saviq> l
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, start again
[19:24] <karni> yeah, lanched a new one
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, and start with LANGUAGE=ko qmlscene soundboard.qml
[19:25] <karni> WOOOOO
[19:25] <Saviq> everything looks good then, as far as I can tell
[19:25] <karni> Saviq: <3
[19:25] <Saviq> karni, awesome
[19:25] <karni> Saviq: You saved the i18n part of the demo
[19:25] <Saviq> karni, happy to help
[19:25] <karni> Saviq: I owe you a good drink!
[19:25] <karni> Thanks so much for your time!
[19:25] <Saviq> karni, no worries, kill'em'all there :)
[19:25] <karni> popey: FYI with priceless help from Saviq and a few bumps, we pulled it off
[19:25]  * Saviq afk
[19:26] <karni> Saviq: haha, thanks!
[19:28] <popey> I did nothing ☻
[19:28] <popey> \o/ well done
[19:28] <popey> good luck with the demo karni
[19:29] <lool> popey: do you see the clock 1.0 app centered correctly on nexus 4?
[19:29] <karni> Thanks popey :)
[19:29] <lool> the 1.0 version seems to launch fine now, but it's not centered
[19:29] <lool> I might have improperly cleaned local modifications
[19:30] <lool> getting so many crashes since Friday
[19:31] <popey> lool: no, bug filed
[19:31] <lool> popey: ah I removed the clock, but it's no in appstore
[19:31] <lool> lalala
[19:31] <popey> wat
[19:31] <lool> popey: thanks, was looking for confirmation before filing one
[19:31] <lool> wasn't sure I had a clean install
[19:31] <popey> bug 1239088
[19:32] <lool> thanks
[19:32] <popey> np
[19:32] <lool> popey: to get a clean install, I tried to remove the click and reinstall it, but couldn't find it in store
[19:32] <popey> yeah, some of the apps aren't in the store yet
[19:32] <lool> popey: is it planned?
[19:32] <popey> yes
[19:32] <lool> ok, all good then
[19:32] <lool> popey: thanks!
[19:33] <popey> you kicking off 95?
[19:33] <lool> popey: BTW, preinstalled clicks now listed in e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest thanks to ogra_
[19:33] <lool> popey: not particularly yet; did you need one?
[19:33] <popey> no, just wondered
[19:33] <lool> I probably will kick one end of sunday unless something urgent pops up
[19:33] <popey> ok, thats cool
[19:33] <lool> so that we get fresh test results monday morning
[19:33] <popey> i know music app guys are still beavering away
[19:33] <lool> yeah; did the mega merge go in?
[19:34] <popey> yes
[19:34] <popey> more pending
[19:34] <popey> bug 1239147 is bizarre
[19:34] <popey> i took my devices along to a lug meet today, took 5 mins for someone to break a device
[19:35] <lool> oh yeah
[19:35] <lool> mine break in 5 mn too
[19:35] <lool> I tried location service for instnace
[19:35] <lool> or just wildly pressing power button is pretty solid crasher too  :-)
[19:36] <popey> hah
[19:36] <lool> in the last week, I thought 3G wasn't working, but it turned up for the first time for me today
[19:36] <lool> worked ok
[19:36] <lool> but slow to fix
[19:45] <Saviq> popey, lool, do you guys know anything about apport-retrace? I was wondering if it's at all supported to retrace with non-archive packages?
[19:45] <popey> pass, sorry
[19:46] <Saviq> pitti, if you happen to be around somewhen, you'll probably know ↑↑
[19:46] <lool> Saviq: it's not supported
[19:46] <Saviq> ;(
[19:46] <lool> Saviq: actually
[19:46] <lool> Saviq: maybe it is for our special PPA
[19:47] <lool> Saviq: because we're copying the binaries after build
[19:47] <Saviq> lool, which special PPA? daily-build?
[19:47] <lool> Saviq: Yes
[19:48] <lool> Saviq: it's special in that we copy the source + binaries built there straight into -proposed
[19:48] <lool> Saviq: so the dbgsym debs must be there somehow
[19:48] <Saviq> lool, I have dbgsyms
[19:48] <Saviq> lool, but apport-retrace shrugs at them for some reason
[19:49] <Saviq> lool, maybe you know how to make apt-ftparchive pick up .ddeb and not only .deb files?
[19:49] <Saviq> maybe that's why it didn't like them - because they were -dbgsym.deb
[19:49] <Saviq> and not -dbgsym.ddeb
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: hmm maybe
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: did it bail out or give you an incomplete bt?
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: the only thing I know is that input is sources.list
[19:50] <lool> so I'd try passing a PPA there just for fun
[19:50] <Saviq> lool, said something about outdated dbgsyms
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: I also know we're building our binaries in PPA, yet the dbgsyms show up at: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/u/unity-mir/
[19:51] <Saviq> lool, yeah, might be something worth trying
[19:51] <Saviq> lool, ah so maybe -dbgsym are only supported from there
[19:51] <Saviq> lool, so yeah, PPA'd be supported, but not something that doesn't place the dbgsyms in ddebs
[19:51] <lool> Saviq: e.g. telepathy-ofono is in a version only in PPA and the dbgsym are in http://people.canonical.com/~platform/cu2d/results
[19:52] <lool> so maybe all devirtualized PPAs also upload there, but if the version appears in Ubuntu it overwrites them
[19:52] <Saviq> lool, yeah, need a chat with pitti probably, then
[19:52] <lool> Saviq: err the dbgsym are in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/t/telepathy-ofono/
[19:52] <Saviq> lool, thanks for the clue
[19:52] <lool> Saviq: so just a matter to force apport-retrace to take the dbgsym from same location
[19:53] <lool> (it's a good surprize we have them when staged in PPA actually; I thought this whole story would only work if Launchpad was tracking this stuff)
[19:53] <Saviq> lool, yeah, from *any* location, for that matter - but then, as I said, I *suspect* the s/ddeb/deb/ might matter
[19:53] <Saviq> /away
[19:54] <lool> Saviq: can you just build in daily PPA and mirror the dbgsym from there?
[19:54] <lool> as to have ddeb
[19:55] <lool> Saviq: can build you $something from bzr trunk in PPA now if you need one
[19:57] <Saviq> lool, nah, that's fine thanks
[19:57] <Saviq> lool, ultimately I can just install the dbgsym locally where the crash happened
[19:58] <Saviq> lool, and no need to retrace
[19:58] <lool> Saviq: yeah
[19:58] <lool> Saviq: that's what I usually end up doing  :-)
[19:58] <lool> need to try the -S of apport-retrace some day
[19:58] <Saviq> lool, I was pretty successful with the retracer lately, yeah
[19:58] <lool> cool
[20:07] <avesnce> can somebody tell me where i can see those unavailabel pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VoiceCall https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HiFi?
[20:08] <avesnce> those link from second porting guide, part Device changes/Audio
[20:47] <meeeeee> hey. can anybody tell me, why my nexus 7 w/ ubuntu touch always hangs itself uf a few minutes after bootig?
[21:37] <ahayzen> mhall119, ping
[21:42] <ahayzen> Is the Jenkins bot down? it hasn't done anything for 30mins+ and got a strange error on one of my merges 'FATAL: hudson.remoting.RequestAbortedException: java.io.IOException: Unexpected termination of the channel'
[21:43] <mhall119> ahayzen: sounds like it's down then
[21:43] <mhall119> fginther: ^^
[21:43] <ahayzen> '(pending - mediumtests-slave is offline )'
[21:44] <mhall119> ahayzen: fginther will rescue Jenkins when he's around again, until then you should go enjoy your weekend :)
[21:44] <ahayzen> mhall119, heh got lots of bugs to fix first :)
[21:45] <mhall119> as long as you're having fun with it
[21:45] <ahayzen> yep :)
[21:45] <ahayzen> some really nice fixes for the music-app today
[21:46] <mhall119> \o/
[21:46] <mhall119> the music app is looking so nice these days, I'm loving it
[21:47] <avence|jfltexx> yeh, i know c too bad... in alsa_pcm.c ... how i can cast -EINVAL to pcm pointer? pcm is struct
[22:03] <lool> ahayzen: Right, this was a timeout to reach the slave, and it's now completely offline
[22:03] <ahayzen> lool, :(
[22:03] <lool> ahayzen: so no further jobs will pass  :-/
[22:04] <lool> ahayzen: there's a planned outage of the internal canonical cloud where this runs
[22:05] <ahayzen> lool, ah ok when is it expected to be back?
[22:05] <lool> ahayzen: actually sorry, this outage was meant to be tomorrow evening, not tonight
[22:05] <lool> ahayzen: Let me check with IS
[22:07] <lool> ahayzen: down since one hour apparently
[22:07] <lool> ahayzen: but doesn't seem anyone is around
[22:08] <ahayzen> lool, yeah looks it https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone-apps-jenkins-bot/+karma
[22:08] <lool> ahayzen: can you see http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/computer/mediumtests-slave/builds ?
[22:08] <ahayzen> lool, yep
[22:09] <lool> ahayzen: anyway, I cant do anything about it (no idea how the slave is setup/run) and while I could escalate things to IS, I think this specific instance is NOT handled by IS
[22:09] <ahayzen> lool, ok
[22:09] <lool> ahayzen: so I feel bad to use the emergency number just to have IS discover that it's nothing they can help with
[22:10] <ahayzen> lool, thts fine don't worry
[22:10] <lool> ahayzen: what I'd suggest is that you run the AP tests manually on each mp
[22:10] <lool> ahayzen: and foce it in
[22:10] <lool> *force it in
[22:10] <lool> I think I can force things in at the jenkins level, but it's simplest if you just bzr merge things you've tested
[22:10] <ahayzen> lool, yeah we are running manual tests i mean we'll see if it up tomorrow then start manually merging if it isn't
[22:11] <lool> ahayzen: I do expect turbulance in any case tomorrow due to this planned outage; it was meant from sunday evening to monday morning
[22:11] <lool> Sun Oct 13 21:00 UTC - Mon Oct 14 04:00 UTC
[22:11] <lool> and the end results /should/ be instances running as before IIUC
[22:11] <ahayzen> IIUC....
[22:12] <lool> if I understand correctly
[22:12] <ahayzen> ah
[22:12] <ahayzen> too many acronyms :P
[22:12] <ahayzen> lool, anyway thanks for looking :)
[22:13] <lool> let me just mail the relevant folks in case they are addicted enough to open work mail over the weekend
[22:13] <lool> I guess I wont help their addiction with this
[22:26] <popey> We have awesome outage slots ☻
[22:30] <ahayzen> popey, just before release?
[22:31] <popey> indeed
[22:32] <ahayzen> hehe
[22:59] <anders3408> mhall119:  you here ?
[22:59] <anders3408> mhall119:  i really need you, having a private question :)
[23:57] <OrokuSaki> wonder if not having accept4 is causing hybris not to render my video decoder... guess I will add it and revert systemd and pulse patches and see what happens


[02:56] <leonel> Hello .. How can I tell ubuntuone to NOT get connected when I logon to my desktop ?
[10:40] <duanedesign> good morning U1inites
[10:43] <mkarnicki> morning duanedesign
[11:04] <kermiac> can someone please take a look at bug 589818 - the OP is unsuccessfully trying to sync approx 4500 files (paid account)
[11:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 589818 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "High processor load for ubuntuone-syncdaemon (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589818
[11:09] <rye> kermiac, hm, syncdaemon will be extremely busy on startup reading a) metadata b) checking whether directories changed and querying the server about that, as far as i can tell
[11:10] <kermiac> hello rye :)  - yeah, I couldn't see anything that was obvious in the logs :(
[11:10] <rye> 2010-06-13 13:06:30,048 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues WORKING_ON_BOTH  connection 'With User With Network')>; queues: metadata: 197; content: 4022; hash: 0, fsm-cache: hit=295826 miss=15769) ----
[11:11] <rye> suggests that he has 197 metadata entries to go and 4022 content items were not yet uploaded
[11:12] <kermiac> yup, so it's still processing. I know the service has sped up a *lot* but they are trying to sync a *lot* of files
[11:13] <kermiac> and if I understand them correctly, they keep stopping the service, so it will begin doing the server rescan stuff again when they next reboot or re-enable the syndaemon
[11:15] <kermiac> rye: would you suggest that I ask them to leave the PC on & explain that the process of syncing 4500 files will take some time & point them to your u1sdtool wiki page if they wish to check on the sync progress?
[11:16] <rye> kermiac, i will create 4500 files now and see how that works. It definitely is not good with 30k files but with 4k it needs a better look into
[11:16] <kermiac> ok, thanks rye :)
[11:19] <rye> + 3900 files so i now going to sync 5000 files. fire extinguisher is ready
[11:20] <kermiac> haha :)
[13:06] <thecondor> Hi! Just a little question I couldn't find an answer for: does anybody know, whether there is a broken download problem with WinXP IE, when trying to download big files published via UbuntuOne? A friend of mine, who is using internet explorer I guess, is just getting corrupt files. Same files downloaded here with ubuntu/firefox are fine.
[13:06] <thecondor> honk
[13:08] <beuno> thecondor, that's super odd
[13:08] <beuno> I wouldn't expect files to be currupt on IE
[13:08] <thecondor> Hi beuno. Yes it's oddset.
[13:08] <beuno> does he by any chanve have a non-sensitive file he can download and send us to inspect?
[13:09] <thecondor> This would be the next test. Sadly i cannot reach him atm.
[13:10] <thecondor> Just wanted to know whether other users might have experienced similar issues.. or recommending firefox e.g.
[13:12] <thecondor> I think he told me
[13:13] <thecondor> ..something like 'all files downloaded have same checksum and cannot be unzipped'
[13:13] <thecondor> (Should be different sized working zip files i uploaded. Strange.)
[13:14] <rye> thecondor, hmmmm
[13:15]  * rye fires his expired trial copy of win7
[13:16] <thecondor> I guess it could be helpful to get more info bout the files he downloaded.. but i cannot reach him.
[13:17] <thecondor> Shall i make a test upload with non sensitive data for you to download?
[13:19] <jdobrien> g-morning ubuntu oners
[13:21] <thecondor> G-morning jdobrien
[13:22] <thecondor> @rye: test upload for you in progress
[13:31] <rye> looks like my libvirt/apport is somehow broken now, brb
[13:48] <nisshh> CardinalFang: hey, id like to code a function into my app that can tell when desktopcouch is being synced by U1 and when its not, are you able to help me out?
[13:53] <CardinalFang> nisshh, I have planned some DBus signals that your app could listen for.  This isn't on the 10.10 roadmap, though, so I won't be working on it, but I can review and merge code you supply.
[13:56] <rye> beuno, hm, i picked up random link - http://ubuntuone.com/p/2Di and it does not open in IE but it opens fine in Firefox in Windows. Not really a corruption but something is really broken there
[13:57] <CardinalFang> nisshh, so, these signals I have planned are not *exactly* what you're looking for.  You need a state variable that the signals toggle, and at startup your app doesn't know the current state, but it's the cleanest thing I can think of, at present.
[13:58] <beuno> rye, that's intersting. Can you file the bug?
[13:58] <thecondor> Wrong http headers?
[13:59] <thecondor> Another test: http://ubuntuone.com/p/7ED/
[13:59] <thecondor> Should be 40.4 MB
[14:02] <thecondor> Thx, rye and beuno, i will mail my friend he shall try firefox for the moment.
[14:03] <rye> thecondor, hmmmm that file is downloadable via IE
[14:03] <thecondor> Oh
[14:03] <rye> thecondor, the question is now whether checksum matches
[14:03] <thecondor> Now i'm baffled.
[14:04] <thecondor> A sec..
[14:04] <rye> thecondor, looks like not - 7zip could not open that file
[14:06] <thecondor> Should be: f0f9e7685c5a00f12a01a38c46d6c486 for beryll.avi.zip
[14:07] <thecondor> Filesize 42,331,421 bytes
[14:07] <thecondor> Standard zirpel created from nautilus
[14:07] <thecondor> -zirpel +zip
[14:12] <thecondor> Rye, what did u get with firefox/ie, speaking of filesize/md5?
[14:12] <rye> thecondor, still trying to get that file out of that win instance
[14:12] <thecondor> Ok
[14:16] <rye> thecondor, fda01bd702b248dc06263e4e5e67d500
[14:16] <rye> thecondor, d/ling w/ ff now
[14:18] <thecondor> Wow, maybe zip files get re-compressed when uploading to U1... really dont hope so.
[14:18] <rye> thecondor, hm, ie's version is actually bigger - 42,342,089 bytes
[14:19] <thecondor> Rye, what a messe
[14:19] <thecondor> Additional data? Where did it can fromm?
[14:19] <thecondor> Carmen
[14:20] <rye> thecondor, the only possible explanation I have is that there is gzip compression
[14:20] <thecondor> Sry, typos
[14:20] <rye> Content-Encoding: deflate
[14:20] <rye> Content-Length: 42342089
[14:20] <rye> yes
[14:20] <rye> cool
[14:20] <thecondor> Indeed.. thatcher could be. So it might be deflate
[14:21] <rye> IE does not support deflating?
[14:21] <rye> beuno, ping, it looks like IE does not decompress the deflated stream
[14:22] <thecondor> I guess deflate was always trouble making with ie.. because of some weired apache settings on the other end or so.
[14:23] <thecondor> I remember i had to remove deflate from apache often, when i was a lamp admin and php dev.
[14:30] <thecondor> ..or its some kind of missing x-handler directive for gz or so.
[14:34] <nisshh> CardinalFang: sorry i was afk for a while, yes so dbus sounds good, but i suppose my app could find out the current state easily enough, id be happy to contribute code, although i havent done anything with dbus at all and im a pretty noobish programmer still, be aware that this is just an idea i had, i dont even know if ill implement it or not.
[14:35] <CardinalFang> nisshh, DBus isn't very tough, especially signals.  I'll be here if you have questions.
[14:35] <nisshh> CardinalFang: ok, thanks
[14:36] <rye> i nearly know why it could not display that web page then... because jpeg stream was damaged according to IE...
[14:37] <thecondor> IE sucks so badly..
[14:40] <thecondor> Rye, do you file a bug report for this deflate IE thingy or should i do so?
[14:40] <rye> thecondor, i am filing one right now
[14:41] <thecondor> Thx very much! I'm outta here then for now..
[14:45] <rye> hm
[14:49] <rye> if I pretend to be IE then i get 42331421 bytes content, so it is ok
[14:50] <rye> need tcpdumping
[14:51] <rye> beuno, it is really some kind of broken browser detection
[14:52] <rye> beuno, http://paste.ubuntu.com/450597/
[14:52] <beuno> rye, I'd be surprised if we're doing any kind of browser detection
[14:53] <rye> beuno, we do, but for attachment names, not for deflate/not deflate thing. This seems to be dealt with by the frontend servers
[14:55] <beuno> rye, hrmf.
[15:00] <rye> beuno, frankly speaking - i don't get it :-/
[15:16] <rye> Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
[15:17] <rye> hm, IE says that it wants deflate
[15:36] <gnomefreak> when using funambol with thunderbird-3 what would i use for location?
[15:36] <beuno> gnomefreak, http://syncml.one.ubuntu.com
[15:36] <gnomefreak> beuno: thanks
[15:36] <beuno> gnomefreak, have you created the mobile user/pass?
[15:37] <gnomefreak> beuno: no im not syncing with a mobile device just to ubuntuone site
[15:38] <rye> beuno, our IE support is definitely broken so this is definitely a bug report
[15:38] <gnomefreak> i was assuming the user/password would be the one i use to log into ubuntuone site
[15:39] <beuno> gnomefreak, no no, you need the mobile user/pass to use funambol
[15:39] <beuno> we can't get it to use openid, so we need to generate a special user/pass
[15:39] <gnomefreak> oh, how do i create one than
[15:39] <beuno> rye, thanks
[15:40] <gnomefreak> i dont see anyway to do that in Funambol
[15:40] <beuno> gnomefreak, in the web ui
[15:40] <beuno> go to contacts
[15:40] <beuno> you should have a "set up phone sync" option
[15:41] <beuno> I know, this needs to be a bit less confusing  :)
[15:41] <gnomefreak> beuno: i dont see it. i have "sync all"
[15:41] <beuno> gnomefreak, on the website
[15:41] <gnomefreak> in the menu there isnt anything like that either
[15:41] <beuno> one.ubuntu.com
[15:41] <gnomefreak> on
[15:44] <gnomefreak> beuno: this is also for the free accounts?
[15:45] <beuno> gnomefreak, well, funambol is for paid accounts, you get a 30 day trial
[15:45] <beuno> that said
[15:45] <beuno> we're going to waive that until Maverick
[15:46] <gnomefreak> oh
[15:46] <beuno> now that everything is out there and working, we're planning a juicier mobile package
[21:06] <mkarnicki> verterok: Just got up from a nap & doing UML project for tomorrow =_= .. Any news on that Android bug maybe ;_; ?
[21:12] <verterok> mkarnicki: hi
[21:12] <mkarnicki> verterok: hello
[21:13] <verterok> mkarnicki: nope, I think one option is to stop using netty (and probably NIO altogether), in this case of the android client...and use plain old socket + ssl
[21:13] <verterok> mkarnicki: that means rewrite part of the protocol client
[21:14] <mkarnicki> verterok: ...
[21:14] <verterok> but is better than no client at all
[21:14] <verterok> :)
[21:14] <mkarnicki> verterok: PipeLine factory will suffice?
[21:14] <mkarnicki> *pipelinefactory
[21:14] <mkarnicki> I mean, that one file where I changed SSL to TLS ?
[21:14] <mkarnicki> or there's more to change?
[21:14] <verterok> mkarnicki: no, a bit more :)
[21:15] <mkarnicki> verterok: not good..
[21:15] <verterok> mkarnicki: that's the pipeline for the RequestHandler, which is a subclass of netty SimpleChannelHandler (or something)
[21:15] <mkarnicki> verterok: oh. so it's still netty..
[21:15] <verterok> mkarnicki: the way the client connects to the server needs to be changed
[21:15] <mkarnicki> verterok: sorry, I'm still unconsious
[21:16] <verterok> mkarnicki: yes, we need to ditch the parent class of the RequestHandler, and implement all the socket handling, protobuf en/decoing, etc  using plain-ld sockets
[21:16] <mkarnicki> verterok: you can imagine I feel devastaded
[21:16] <verterok> *old
[21:16] <verterok> mkarnicki: isn't that bad
[21:17] <mkarnicki> verterok: I have used sockets before, but 1. not secure ones, 2. not on such level of detail as we probably need
[21:17] <verterok> mkarnicki: the client will need to be executed in a different thread, as the old java IO is blocking...
[21:17] <mkarnicki> verterok: that's not a problem, I'll make it a service
[21:17] <mkarnicki> verterok: with it's own thread
[21:18] <verterok> mkarnicki: no need to do that just yet ;)
[21:18] <verterok> mkarnicki: let's get it running in a thread, then move it to whatever a service is :)
[21:18] <mkarnicki> verterok: brb 1 sec
[21:19] <mkarnicki> verterok: I'm back. ok, I'll run it in another thread for now
[21:20] <mkarnicki> verterok: if I can help somehow, tell me what I can do (after I finish my stupid college assigmnent)
[21:21] <verterok> mkarnicki: simple SSL wiht sockets is quite "simple", it will look like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/450760/
[21:22] <mkarnicki> verterok: aha..
[21:22] <mkarnicki> verterok: if you would just start that, like with handling one request, I could build up on that
[21:22] <verterok> mkarnicki: we need to translate some of the stuff in RequestPipelineFactory to blocking IO
[21:23] <verterok> mkarnicki: my idea is to keep the rest of the code, that's the mainloop and should handle all requests
[21:23] <mkarnicki> verterok: ok then. if you could leave me few pointers on priv, I'll start building on that. actually you already gave me a good start I think.
[21:23] <mkarnicki> verterok: I see, good idea
[21:24] <verterok> mkarnicki: the wire protocol is: header[4bytes]+message[nbytes]
[21:24] <verterok> mkarnicki: the 4 bytes header is the length of the message
[21:24] <verterok> mkarnicki: you should take a look to the python implementation, the file is request.py
[21:25] <verterok> mkarnicki: I'll try to play a bit tonight, but not sure if I'll be able to get enough time to get somethign working
[21:25] <mkarnicki> verterok: got yet another phone call, brb!
[21:25] <verterok> mkarnicki: np
[21:30] <mkarnicki> verterok: ok, gotcha! I'll read up on that python code. you're already tons of help, so maybe I'll be able to input more on that this time.
[21:30] <mkarnicki> verterok: thanks again. and now I have hope again that the project may go on
[21:31] <mkarnicki> verterok: I was really upset it could have had really bad impact. I mean it already had, but hell, we've done much job!
[21:31] <verterok> mkarnicki: I think I have a partial (no-working) implementation of the code somewhere, before I started with netty...I'll try to find it
[21:32] <mkarnicki> aquarius: ^ good news up here. we'll rewrite part of the protocol and not use netty, that will hopefully workaround any Android bugs.
[21:32] <mkarnicki> verterok: that would be lovely, if you'll have it around, hit me up with a paste and I'll read up on that, too. thanks!!!
[21:33] <verterok> mkarnicki: sure
[21:33] <verterok> mkarnicki: we first need to be sure that plain sockets+ssl works on android ;)
[21:39] <mkarnicki> verterok: heheh. there was a reply from netty author Tristan, that one guy should use plain (old?) OIO transport - do you know what he meant?
[21:39] <verterok> mkarnicki: a reply where?
[21:40] <mkarnicki> verterok: I'll dig it up
[21:40] <verterok> mkarnicki: yes, plain OIO is the blocking IO
[21:40] <verterok> mkarnicki: NIO is the new non-blocking IO
[21:41] <mkarnicki> verterok: right, so that e-mail can prove useful. it was on some mailing list
[21:41]  * mkarnicki digs it up
[21:42] <mkarnicki> verterok: 2nd mail - I think it's what you suggested, isn't it? http://www.jboss.org/netty/community.html#nabble-td5096427
[21:42]  * verterok reads
[21:44] <verterok> mkarnicki: no, different issue
[21:44] <mkarnicki> verterok: but we also got java.net.SocketException: Bad address family - still different issue?
[21:45] <verterok> mkarnicki: we got that?
[21:45] <mkarnicki> (by we got - I mean running that on Froyo anyway :/  )
[21:45] <mkarnicki> verterok: umm.. yeah, but.. did you get my late msg's yesterday?
[21:45] <mkarnicki> verterok: the bug has been fixed in Android 2.2 (sic!)
[21:45] <mkarnicki> verterok: but then there was that Bad address family anyway :/
[21:46] <verterok> mkarnicki: we can try to switch the current client to netty's OIO transport
[21:46] <mkarnicki> verterok: so no good either
[21:46] <mkarnicki> verterok: that would be less changes in the code?
[21:46] <verterok> mkarnicki: the issue was with ikvm or something, that compiles java to .net stuff
[21:46] <verterok> mkarnicki: it should!
[21:46] <mkarnicki> verterok: :)
[21:46] <verterok> mkarnicki: http://docs.jboss.org/netty/3.1/guide/html/architecture.html
[21:46] <verterok> mkarnicki: search for OIO
[21:46]  * mkarnicki reads up
[21:46] <verterok> mkarnicki: actually, read 2.2. Universal Asynchronous I/O API
[21:48] <mkarnicki> verterok: yup, right there
[21:48]  * mkarnicki reads
[21:48] <mkarnicki> verterok: you know what.. I have this dang assignment waiting for me for tomorrow. I'll do it now and go back to all that OIO stuff, if it's ok with you?
[21:49] <verterok> mkarnicki: sure
[21:49] <mkarnicki> verterok: ok thanks. I'll let you know, till then.


[00:00] <torkvemada> if only you'll be interested today, I've just uploaded it to ppa:torkvemada/torkvemada
[00:02] <torkvemada> good night to you :)
[01:23] <coz_> hey all
[11:33] <kazade> Hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this question so if It's not let me know. Apparently in Natty we are getting a resize grip on all windows (yay!) but, in the Wingpanel project the grip has started appearing where it shouldn't: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wingpanel/+bug/702806
[11:33] <kazade> anyone know how to stop a grip appearing on a window?
[11:34] <spikeb> this is the right place. that's about all I can tell ya
[11:35] <kazade> Hmm, perhaps the wingpanel window is being marked as resizable, it's probably just that
[12:17] <evilvish> kazade: neat!! we need to look out for such bugs. add it as a papercut.. https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+milestone/nt9-grippy ,
[12:18] <evilvish> kazade: actually we thought it might be overlapping buttons, and the sort..
[12:18] <kazade> evilvish, well, I've added it. I'm pretty sure it'll be a wingpanel bug though
[12:19] <kazade> probably just a set_resizable(false) will be enough, but I don't have Natty atm so I can't check
[12:19] <evilvish> kazade: yea. doesnt matter where it needs fixing. that milestone is to track such bugs.
[13:09]  * spikeb just read that a 2D version of unity is also being developed. very happy
[16:15] <apw> i am seeing natty installation issues due to compiz/unity
[16:16] <apw> apt is threatening to uninstall unity and ubuntu-desktop ..
[16:38] <kamstrup> njpatel: ! omg! dee-0.5.4 is out!
[16:50] <kamstrup> njpatel: and now updated place daemons - they're all over the place!
[16:52] <Amaranth> was unity uploaded before compiz or has it just not built yet?
[16:53] <Amaranth> didrocks: I've pushed a new plugins-extra, took care of merging with the natty branch andrewsomething made
[16:53] <Amaranth> Haven't uploaded, just pushed the branch
[16:53] <didrocks> Amaranth: awesome! thanks a lot :)
[16:53] <didrocks> Amaranth: it was depwait, it's fixed now
[16:57] <kamstrup> kvalo: ! http://ftp.gnome.org/conspiracy/
[17:07] <andreasn> oops
[17:07] <kvalo> kamstrup: just awesome :)
[17:11] <njpatel> didrocks, https://launchpad.net/nux/0.9/0.9.14
[17:18] <kvalo> cyphermox: hi. if you have two wifi devices, how does n-m show the available networks?
[17:22] <cyphermox> kvalo, it lists Wireless Device twice, with the model/name in parens
[17:22] <kvalo> cyphermox: and networks under that device?
[17:22] <cyphermox> then obviously the list of scan results for each device under it... I can show you if you want
[17:22] <cyphermox> yes
[17:23] <kvalo> cyphermox: ok, good. thanks
[18:00] <njpatel> didrocks, https://launchpad.net/bamf/0.2/0.2.72
[18:26] <lamalex> API, do you know when rodrigo will be online?
[18:26] <API> lamalex, hmm no
[18:27] <API> lamalex, are you reviewing his merge request?
[18:27] <lamalex> API, yes
[18:27] <lamalex> API, have you tested that it works?
[18:27] <API> well, it is 19:30 on spain, ...
[18:27] <API> lamalex, no, but I plan to
[18:27] <lamalex> I thought he was adjusting his core hours to align with ours
[18:27] <lamalex> but ok
[18:28] <API> you can set two reviewers on a merge request?
[18:28] <njpatel> didrocks, https://launchpad.net/unity/3.0/3.2.12
[18:28] <lamalex> API, when you test can you leave a comment on the merge?
[18:28] <lamalex> API, yes
[18:28] <API> lamalex, yes, he said that
[18:28] <lamalex> API, I will add you as a reviewer
[18:28] <API> I mean that not sure if he went lunch or something
[18:28] <API> lamalex, ok thanks
[18:28] <API> (well, dinner indeed)
[18:28] <lamalex> API, what is your launchpad id
[18:28] <lamalex> right, he needs to eat :P
[18:29] <API> https://launchpad.net/~apinheiro
[18:29] <API> lamalex, apinheiro, like my email
[18:31] <lamalex> I was just misspelling it :)
[18:31] <API> no worries, you are not the first, and you will no be the last ;)
[18:32] <API> lamalex, btw, do you have dbusmenu 0.4 on your system?
[18:33] <lamalex> API, no i don't think so. has it been uploaded yet?
[18:33] <lamalex> It looks like I have 0.3.91
[18:33] <API> well, no yet
[18:33] <API> I still have it
[18:33] <API> but current unity depends on that
[18:34] <API> lamalex,so, how are you compiling unity ?
[18:34] <API> or you have the code just before the dependency bump?
[18:34] <lamalex> oh, I do have dbusmenu 0.4 :P
[18:34] <lamalex> I forgot that I had built it from source
[18:35] <API> ah ok, thanks
[18:37] <kamstrup> DBO: btw... i hope you're not holding your breath for that color mapping patch... I'm still unable to get unity to even run here, and coding something like this in the blind is not my strong side :-)
[18:43] <lamalex> API, happy anniversary
[18:43] <API> lamalex, thanks ;)
[18:44] <API> I had that post on the freeze for some time, I almost forgot to publish that yesterday
[18:44] <lamalex> haha
[18:53] <didrocks> kamstrup: have you made a dee release? does kenvandine is taking care of it?
[18:53] <didrocks> kamstrup: and can unity works with previous dee?
[18:53] <kenvandine> did i inherit dee? :-D
[18:57] <kamstrup> didrocks, kenvandine: yes there is a new dee at https://launchpad.net/dee/trunk/0.5.4... I think njpatel would like it in since it could theoretically crash unity
[18:57] <kamstrup> (but is unlikely to unless someone manually starts fiddling around with places)
[18:57] <kenvandine> kamstrup, i can do it
[18:58] <kamstrup> schweet
[18:58] <kamstrup> it also means ppl can compile the place daemons and a stock N stack
[21:12] <ronoc> lamalex, -> here is an excerpt of a gig we did in dublin at the end of november -> http://soundcloud.com/forwind/sonnamble-live-in-dublin-2010
[21:26] <lamalex> ronoc, sweet


[01:50] <GSmyrlis> hello from greece. new user here. i try hard and still don't manage to run stremio. can you help me?
[01:56] <Bashing-om> !info stremio | GSmyrlis
[01:57] <GSmyrlis> yes what can i do to install and run ti?
[01:59] <Bashing-om> GSmyrlis: where are you puling stremio from and is there support for stremio in your present install ?
[01:59] <GSmyrlis> i have xubuntu last edition
[02:00] <GSmyrlis> i am trying to install the last stremio version from their site
[02:00] <GSmyrlis> isn't this possible on this OS?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> GSmyrlis: Pass us the stremio link.
[02:05] <GSmyrlis> https://dl.strem.io/shell-linux/v4.4.164/Stremio_v4.4.164.deb
[02:05] <GSmyrlis> obtained from here:
[02:05] <GSmyrlis> https://www.stremio.com/downloads
[02:05] <GSmyrlis> i downloaded ubuntu version
[02:06] <Unit193> I'm guessing you got: stremio : Depends: libmpv1 (>= 0.30.0) but it is not installable  ?
[02:06] <GSmyrlis> yes
[02:11] <Unit193> The SONAME changed for the library due to a change in API, you can download an older version of libmpv1 but of course you won't get updates.  Or you could wait for Streamio to fix it.
[02:12] <GSmyrlis> tried to download an older version, but couldn't because even for that i had another "Depends" of another lib
[02:13] <GSmyrlis> and i trully got tired of finding other stuff, because even the libmpv1 couldn't be downloaded from sudo apt-get install libmpv1 -t jammy.... this just couldn't happen
[02:14] <GSmyrlis> i Couldn't also run the windows version from the wine... when it installed, afterthats i got crashes
[02:16] <Unit193> Speaking of which, is there a snap or flatpak of it?
[02:18] <GSmyrlis> nope, i didn't saved
[02:23] <Unit193> My idea of rebuilding old mpv against the current release wouldn't really help..
[02:27] <GSmyrlis> so do we have a solution?
[02:27] <GSmyrlis> sorry the tab closed :/
[02:33] <Bashing-om> GSmyrlis: As Unit193 says ^ file a report with Streamio to have them fix their app.
[02:34] <Unit193> What?  I don't remember saying that..
[02:34] <Bashing-om> Unit193: Sorry was "Or you could wait for Streamio to fix it.".
[02:36] <GSmyrlis> i have this backtrace.txt:
[02:36] <GSmyrlis> 0x11f62c88 qt5webenginecore+0x1f62c88: int    $3
[02:36] <GSmyrlis> Modules:
[02:36] <GSmyrlis> Module    Address            Debug info    Name (143 modules)
[02:36] <GSmyrlis> PE    00400000-0047f000    Export          qtwebengineprocess
[02:36] <GSmyrlis> PE    00cd0000-00eef000    Deferred        rpcrt4
[02:36] <Unit193> I could also mention https://snapshot.debian.org/package/mpv/0.34.1-1/#libmpv1_0.34.1-1:2b:b5, but that'd be a *terrible* idea. :3
[02:37] <GSmyrlis> Threads:
[02:37] <GSmyrlis> process  tid      prio    name (all IDs are in hex)
[02:37] <GSmyrlis> 00000038 services.exe
[02:37] <GSmyrlis>     0000003c    0
[02:37] <GSmyrlis>     00000040    0     wine_rpcrt4_server
[02:37] <GSmyrlis>     0000004c    0     wine_rpcrt4_io
[02:38] <Bashing-om> !paste | GSmyrlis
[02:39] <Bashing-om> !paste | GSmyrlis
[02:39] <GSmyrlis> so isnt there any way?
[02:39] <GSmyrlis> to run stremio on xubuntu?
[02:39] <GSmyrlis> only send an email to stremio or stuff like that?
[02:39] <GSmyrlis> sorry because irc also lagged in my device
[02:40] <Unit193> It's your best bet.
[02:41] <GSmyrlis> any other ideas?
[02:41] <GSmyrlis> so stremio couldn't be runnable even from ubuntu?
[02:41] <GSmyrlis> even its windows version?
[02:41] <Unit193> 1. Try the libmpv1 package from above link instead.  2.