[07:32] <Madpilot> iGotNoTime, that depends on the case. Some standard ATX cases will support other-ATX boards
[07:32] <lali_> i need to run an assembly program
[07:32] <unforgettableid> why do you want an assembler?
[07:32] <unforgettableid> school?
[07:32] <thomas> anyone here know how to install cedega?
[07:32] <lali_> well
[07:32] <lali_> i wana learn assembly programming
[07:32] <vars> thomas, i have
[07:32] <lali_> :P
[07:32] <vars> what is going on?
[07:32] <unforgettableid> thomas: did you get stuck following the instructions?
[07:32] <thomas> cedega_5.1_i386.debcedega_5.1_i386.deb
[07:32] <NickGarvey> about how long would it take a 1.8 ghz processor to uncompress the linux source?
[07:32] <iGotNoTime> ok thanks Madpilot, I can always drill hehe
[07:33] <lali_> and its my first test, no im just doing it for fun
[07:33] <introvert> lali_: Then get an assembler such as "nasm"
[07:33] <introvert> ?
[07:33] <vars> sudo dpkg -i
[07:33] <thomas> iis that the right one to install on ubuntu 5.10? i think
[07:33] <unforgettableid> NickGarvey: a minute or 2 i think
[07:33] <thomas> k
[07:33] <vars> yeah
[07:33] <lali_> as doesn't come with ubuntu ?
[07:33] <NickGarvey> unforgettableid: mm its been 5
[07:33] <unforgettableid> NickGarvey: compiling takes extra tho.
[07:33] <vars> you ahve a transgaming account
[07:33] <vars> thomas,
[07:33] <Madpilot> iGotNoTime, yeah, you could drill & tap for new standoff positions, if you really wanted to... :P
[07:33] <thomas> sup
[07:33] <unforgettableid> NickGarvey: did you use tar with -v?
[07:33] <NickGarvey> nope
[07:33] <Prak> NickGarvey: thanks, i'll get back to you if i have more problems
[07:33] <NickGarvey> tar x
[07:33] <luckyshot> can someone help me install ndiswrapper???
[07:33] <NickGarvey> alrighty prak
[07:33] <lali_> introvert: the "as" command doesn't come with most versions of ubuntu ?
[07:33] <lali_> compiled ?
[07:33] <vars> thomas, did i answer your question?
[07:34] <ipfw> I'm using this "Konversation" irc client, how do I turn off the stupid join/part/quit msgs ?
[07:34] <introvert> lali_: I don't know, but shouldn't an assembler convert the code into a ELF executable format in which you could run like any other executable?
[07:34] <vars> sudo dpkg -i cedega_5.1_i386.debcedega_5.1_i386.deb
[07:34] <lali_> yes
[07:34] <thomas> yes
[07:34] <thomas> you did
[07:34] <introvert> lali_: then apt-get an assembler
[07:34] <NickGarvey> yes
[07:34] <thomas> the installation is going
[07:34] <thomas> thanks
[07:34] <lali_> nasm would work u say ?
[07:34] <unforgettableid> get gcc and binutils.
[07:34] <thomas> now does cedega go somewere?
[07:34] <lali_> im downloading nasm right now
[07:35] <thomas> were its easy touse now that i install ed it
[07:35] <unforgettableid> sudo dpkg -i cedega_5.1_i386.deb
[07:35] <joevandyk> I built my own 2.6.16 kernel using the .config from 2.6.15-9.  I used make-kpkg to build the kernel.  Now, I can't access my CD drive.  Anything I can look at?
[07:35] <thomas> like in applications bar
[07:35] <introvert> lali_: I like nasm, there are other choices, you should probably research them
[07:35] <clever> unforgettableid, my kernel had a panic attack
[07:35] <unforgettableid> clever: really?
[07:35] <clever> yeah
[07:35] <unforgettableid> clever: use a different kernel.
[07:35] <clever> spit out a call trace and tons of stuff
[07:35] <clever> 2-3 screen fulls
[07:35] <NickGarvey> mm I think 'm going to break it
[07:35] <clever> appeared to lockup in the last line of output
[07:35] <lali_> introvert ill go with nasm, but its as easy as "nasm <option> option ?
[07:36] <unforgettableid> clever: then that was smart of you to use c-a-F1, i wouldnt have thought of it.
[07:36] <clever> only got a timestamp out
[07:36] <clever> :)
[07:36] <Panks> a have a lot of problems with Encoding. My Firefox, my aMSN and other programs sometimes doesn't show the correct accents and letters... why this? what is the correct Encoding that i have to use? I live in Brazil...
[07:36] <introvert> joevandyk: make && make modules_install
[07:36] <introvert> joevandyk: I'm not sure exactly what make-kpkg is
[07:36] <unforgettableid> Panks: #ubuntu-es or the portugese channel could help you
[07:36] <clever> ubuntu auto update has left the old ones in:)
[07:37] <joevandyk> introvert, it creates kernel-image and kernel-header packages
[07:37] <thomas> can cedega be crack3d?
[07:37] <thomas> =P
[07:37] <clever> i'll be back in about 6-8 reboots
[07:37] <thomas> its askin for username and pw
[07:37] <dli> introvert, you should use kernel-package
[07:37] <unforgettableid> thomas: get the CVS.
[07:37] <Panks> ok, thanks unforgettableid
[07:37] <unforgettableid> Panks: np
[07:37] <thomas> whats CVS?
[07:37] <thomas> were can i get it?
[07:37] <NickGarvey> !cvs
[07:37] <ubotu> well, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[07:37] <unforgettableid> thomas: CVS is the legal way to get it.
[07:37] <luckyshot> can someone help me install ndiswrapper???
[07:37] <unforgettableid> thomas: many open source fans are against cracking.
[07:37] <unforgettableid> luckyshot: no.
[07:38] <thomas> k nice
[07:38] <thomas> is it in synatpic?
[07:38] <unforgettableid> thomas: without respect for copyright, Linux would not exist, only BSD.
[07:38] <NickGarvey> luckyshot: doesn't seem like anyone knows how to use ndiswrapper, I think google is your best bet right now
[07:38] <luckyshot> ok, is anyone using ndiswrapper????????
[07:38] <unforgettableid> luckyshot: ask your uni's linux club.
[07:38] <NickGarvey> berkley...
[07:38] <NickGarvey> whats the sd..
[07:38] <NickGarvey> !bsd
[07:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
 what app do u recomend i sue for my wireless usb adapter?
[07:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> NickGarvey: berkley software development IIRC
[07:39] <stansell> CVS retrieves source files that have to be compiled to use
[07:39] <NickGarvey> luckyshot: I don't know I never got it working
[07:39] <Prak> NickGarvey: i have some confusion on each address of the script on the link you've sent me
[07:39] <introvert> NickGarvey: Berekely Software Distribution
[07:39] <NickGarvey> luckyshot: try a linux form
[07:39] <Mischevious> im all for cracking
[07:39] <Mischevious> :-P
[07:39] <NickGarvey> Prak: pastebin the following command "ifconfig eth0"
[07:39] <unforgettableid> ubotu: FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and BSD are alternatives to Linux operating systems. They are often used on servers. They are Unix-based but different from Linux operating systems.
[07:39] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, unforgettableid
[07:39] <NickGarvey> Prak: and I'll pastebin your config file
[07:40] <unforgettableid> ubotu: FreeBSD is an alternative to Linux-based operating systems. The *BSDs are often used on servers. They are Unix-based but different from Linux operating systems.
[07:40] <ubotu> okay, unforgettableid
[07:40] <JustinLynn> does anyone know about a tablet based note taking application for linux similar in capability to OneNote. I found a few applications such as Jarnal and Gournal but these do not provide media linking or embeding and other features found in OneNote.
[07:40] <joevandyk> Anyways, any ideas on what I can enable to get my CD drive working?
[07:41] <Mischevious> joevandyk, whats wrong with it now
[07:41] <joevandyk> Mischevious, /dev/scd0 doesn't exist any more
[07:41] <htrp> !rar
[07:41] <ubotu> rar is, like, totally, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:41] <unforgettableid> JustinLynn: you can get Crossover Office for free if you sign up as an "advocate".
[07:41] <unforgettableid> you have to do a tiny bit of testing every 3 months or so.
[07:41] <NickGarvey> Kamping_Kaiser: its software distribution actually
[07:42] <unforgettableid> if you do well you get a free Tshirt also I think.
[07:42] <JustinLynn> unforgettableid> true, I already have cxoffice :) but I was hoping to either find or create a libre solution.
[07:42] <unforgettableid> JustinLynn: hmm, thats a good idea. maybe try an appropriate mailing list.
[07:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> NickGarvey: thanks :)
[07:42] <NickGarvey> gotta love wikipedia ;)

[07:42] <NickGarvey> Prak: any luck with ifconfig?
[07:43] <JustinLynn> unforgettableid> any suggestions?
[07:43] <Prak> NickGarvey: i'm not near my linux pc right now; can i get back to you on this later?
[07:43] <Sashi> ack
[07:43] <NickGarvey> Prak: oh alright, if your linux pc is on and you are running ssh you wouldn't need to be infront of it ;) I am never near mine
[07:43] <Sashi> how do i fix this?
[07:43] <Sashi> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:43] <NickGarvey> heh exactly introvert
[07:43] <stansell> has anyone had problems with breezy-update/main?
[07:44] <NickGarvey> not me stansell
[07:44] <unforgettableid> JustinLynn: no clue. maybe comp.os.linux.development.apps
[07:44] <clever> both on kernels panic on reading the webcam:( unforgettableid
[07:44] <stansell> I'm getting "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format"
[07:44] <Sashi> how can i fix that error?
[07:45] <stansell> and it leaves a partial file which the file command identifies as "bzip2 compressed data"
[07:45] <JustinLynn> unforgettableid> hmm, will try a development list. If I can't find anything interesting, a new project might be in the works :)
[07:45] <carthik> stansell, that must be a bzip2 file then,
[07:45] <unforgettableid> clever: that sucks. try google for the exact panic message. if you cant see it use 80x50. if no luck try the newest kernel from kernel.org. if no luck, try the appropriate mailing list, kernel or v4l.
[07:45] <sbalneav> Sashi, have you done an aptitude install built-essential?
[07:45] <FliesLikeALap> what is the folder that stores application defaults?
[07:45] <Mischevious> build-essential
[07:45] <unforgettableid> JustinLynn: i'm curious to hear your progress, i was looking for a linux onenote 6 months ago. :)
[07:45] <clever> asking a linux room since this sounds like a general linux prob
[07:45] <clever> and not one just for ubuntu
[07:46] <carthik> stansell, try tar -jxvf whatever-the-archives-name-is
[07:46] <introvert> Fitzsimmons: Usually, your users directory, though the files start with a period and are hidden.
[07:46] <htrp> ey, does that 'deleteubuntu' really work?
[07:46] <luckyshot> ok, is anyone using ndiswrapper????????
[07:46] <stansell> so why am I getting a Packages.gz file from us.archives.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main that's actually a bzip2 file?
[07:46] <NickGarvey> luckyshot: use a forum
[07:46] <FliesLikeALap> luckyshot add a couple more ??? to your question if you want an answer
[07:46] <joevandyk> Anything I can do to get my CD device (/dev/scd0) back?  I upgraded to 2.6.16 and it went away.  Weird since I used the same .config as ubuntu's 2.6.15-19.
[07:46] <Sashi> erm sbalneav
[07:46] <Sashi> whats the package name?
[07:46] <NickGarvey> don't give him ideas
[07:46] <Sashi> im on breezy
[07:47] <carthik> stansell, if you want to see the contents of the packages.gz file, just do $vim packages.gz :)
[07:47] <Mischevious> FliesLikeABrick, no need to be a jerk
[07:47] <JustinLynn> unforgettableid> most of the solutions I find are either partial implementations or build on proprietary systems (java) so I might lean towards mono for the runtime, gstreamer from the media integration, and gtk for the interface. :)
[07:47] <FliesLikeALap> yeah Mischevious sorry, I'm a bit preoccupied/not myself
[07:47] <unforgettableid> i'm curious to hear your progress and maybe to test for you. can I PM you my email?
[07:47] <Mischevious> JustinLynn, i would suggest using xine for the media
[07:47] <introvert> joevandyk: Features are added and removed in kernel updates, that seems like the only logical explaination?
[07:47] <Prak> NickGarvey: my linux pc is running on windows right now by someone else
[07:47] <unforgettableid> a few ppl are against contributing to mono apps. do you know perl or python?
[07:48] <NickGarvey> Prak: kill them
[07:48] <introvert> joevandyk: Look in the .config, under file systems, and look around.
[07:48] <NickGarvey> Prak: run the command "killall windows"
[07:48] <stansell> JustinLynn: free java is getting very good now, so you might still consider it
[07:48] <NickGarvey> (joke)
[07:48] <Mischevious> lol
[07:48] <sbalneav> Sashi, build-essential
[07:48] <JustinLynn> Mischevious> why, is there any advantage to going with xine over gstreamer?
[07:48] <joevandyk> introvert, i'm not sure what to look for
[07:48] <unforgettableid> Sashi: binutils
[07:49] <unforgettableid> free Java is good too.
[07:49] <introvert> joevandyk: Look under filesystems, most of the lines should have commentary next to them
[07:49] <Mischevious> JustinLynn, yea it's more actively developed, it's better... and... dunno it's just better
[07:49] <unforgettableid> the Xine UI is annoying. gxine and totem are better.
[07:49] <introvert> joevandyk: Though, maybe you should try google for your issue first, it may not be because of the configuration.. Or you could try the default kernel configuration.
[07:50] <JustinLynn> unforgettableid, stansell> true, the gnu classpath is becoming mature however I am currently working on several projects in mono / C# so I just feel more comfortable with the environment
[07:50] <carl> Does anybody consider ubuntu better than Windows?
[07:50] <unforgettableid> yes
[07:50] <carl> how so?
[07:50] <kartik> how do i play mpegav files
[07:50] <NickGarvey> Carl: depends on what you need your computer to do
[07:50] <luckyshot> ok, is anyone using ndiswrapper????????
[07:50] <introvert> carl: I consider anything modern Unix above Windows
[07:50] <unforgettableid> luckyshot: buy a network card.
[07:50] <introvert> Minix, BSD, Linux, anything of the sort.
[07:51] <carl> well, I do agree that ubuntu is better, I am just asking why other people think it's better.
[07:51] <xerophyte> does anybody know how to install postgresql 8.x on the 5.10 Ubuntu
[07:51] <NickGarvey> luckyshot: no spam pls k??
[07:51] <carthik> kartik, you can install and use mplayer, vlc or xine with all the codecs - look at the REstrictedFormats wiki page
[07:51] <carl> I just installed ubuntu and I am impressed thus far
[07:51] <introvert> carl: Simple, it's open source.
[07:51] <unforgettableid> JustinLynn: i feel your pain, i went to a school for a year where they taught us C# on windows.
[07:51] <carthik> carl, glad to know you like it
[07:51] <carl> sweet
[07:51] <ipfw> introvert:  If I could only find a NIC supported by Minux !
[07:51] <NickGarvey> Carl: I like ubuntu because I have more choice to do what I want and I feel I can make my computer act how I want it
[07:51] <unforgettableid> ipfw: try your local Radio Shack?
[07:51] <kartik> how do i play mpegvideo files
[07:51] <Mischevious> NickGarvey, same here
[07:51] <unforgettableid> kartik: gxine
[07:52] <carthik> I just happen to like stick shifts, though automatic transmissions are much easier, I've heard
[07:52] <peterretief> hello all
[07:52] <JustinLynn> unforgettableid> don't know why I would be in pain, I learned C# on mono without even touching Visual Studio :) (MonoDevelop FTW)
[07:52] <carthik> hi peterretief
[07:52] <carl> exactly
[07:52] <artimo> Linux is much better for anything connected to the internet. it is a distant second for games.
[07:52] <Sashi> erm
[07:52] <Sashi> i have the latest binutils
[07:52] <carthik> kartik, dude I answered your question earlier
[07:52] <introvert> I prefer games on Linux more than Windows anyday :\
[07:52] <unforgettableid> C# is an excellent language, its just not so popular for OSS. :)
[07:52] <Sashi> guess i dont have  build-essential
[07:52] <ipfw> unforgettableid:  have you ever seen the Non-existant HCL for Minux ? :)
[07:52] <peterretief> with mysql admin i dont seem to be able to edit data?
[07:52] <NickGarvey> unforgettableid: visual basic on the other hand is garbage
[07:52] <gary__> Is it hard to make a script that will print to the terminal ever X seconds?
[07:52] <unforgettableid> ipfw: i bet they have a mailing list
[07:52] <clever> how do i switch my breezy badger ubuntu into a dapper install without formating?
[07:52] <ipfw> unforgettableid:  It only supports like 2-3 NIC chipsets :)
[07:53] <unforgettableid> i grew up on vb.
[07:53] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[07:53] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[07:53] <carl> does anybody think Wine is worth it?
[07:53] <gary__> love wine
[07:53] <peterretief> i like wine
[07:53] <carthik> peterretief, check if you have the permissions as a normal user, perhaps you have to be a superuser to edit stuff ?
[07:53] <JustinLynn> unforgettableid> I think as the mono platform becomes more mature it will gain ground. should we move to ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:53] <gary__> my favourite is red
[07:53] <NickGarvey> unforgettableid: I'm taking a class in it and I can't help but think, I could do these 10 lines with one in python...
[07:53] <unforgettableid> if needed, get wine or crossover office. if you can get free stuff to, do.
[07:53] <carl> great
[07:53] <peterretief> carthik: will try
[07:53] <ipfw> clever:  if you have to ask that, you should probably stay with stable ;)
[07:53] <unforgettableid> NickGarvey: vb is a good language tho.
[07:54] <introvert> VB is a crap language, IMO :)
[07:54] <unforgettableid> too bad there's no linux support.
[07:54] <carthik> clever, dapper is in beta, and there will be much heartache, but if you want to do it, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace breezy with dapper and then apt-get update and then dist-upgrade
[07:54] <clever> ipfw, im getting kernel panics from my current install
[07:54] <gary__> Is it hard to make a script that will print a txt log to the terminal every X seconds?
[07:54] <NickGarvey> unforgettableid: what makes you say that? I have taken only a month in it so my opinion is limited, but some basic things are annoying
[07:54] <ipfw> clever:  umm, tried just swapping kerns ?
[07:54] <artimo> I need a wireless card that uses native drivers. can someone suggest one?
[07:54] <Sashi> whats mysql package name?
[07:54] <clever> both the kernels i have panic
[07:54] <ipfw> unforgettableid:  you are a very sick person, you should see a doctor :P
[07:54] <unforgettableid> clever: get another
[07:54] <htrp>
[07:54] <htrp> can yall see this?
[07:55] <unforgettableid> NickGarvey: yes, but its excellent for COM development
[07:55] <clever> Triffid_Hunter heh good luck then clever.. ubuntu will struggle with you every step of the way to a more recent kernel
[07:55] <unforgettableid> no, use #test btw.
[07:55] <kartik> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:55] <kartik> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[07:55] <kartik> -this is occuring when i am downloading gxine.what do i do?????please tell
[07:55] <NickGarvey> !paste
[07:55] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:55] <introvert> htrp: I can
[07:55] <htrp> ic
[07:55] <clever> doesnt sound easy unforgettableid
[07:55] <dli> htrp, japanese or chinese
[07:55] <htrp> testing fonts and stuff
[07:55] <htrp> i don't know
[07:55] <ipfw> clever:  either you have an app making the panic, your kerns are hosed, or you are having hardware failures
[07:55] <htrp> lol
[07:55] <introvert> dli: Alt codes I believe
[07:55] <liable> kartik: you have another instance of apt/synaptic open..
[07:55] <clever> ipfw,  its a webcam that im trying to read
[07:55] <ipfw> clever:  but, any way about it, I doubt moving from a stable branch to unstable will help :)
[07:55] <unforgettableid> clever: maybe there are kernel binaries available.
[07:56] <carthik> artimo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:56] <dli> introvert, I think it's chinese
[07:56] <ipfw> clever:  awww....
[07:56] <unforgettableid> whatever gtg.
[07:56] <artimo> great! Thank You carthik. :)
[07:56] <carthik> kartik, you have synaptic open, close it and then try the command you are trying again
[07:56] <carthik> artimo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs is useful, too
[07:56] <NickGarvey> !mouse
[07:56] <ubotu> I heard mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[07:56] <stansell> bunzip2 -tvv shows "[1: huff+mtf rt+rld] data integrity (CRC) error in data" for this packages file
[07:58] <peterretief> any ideas on a nice friendly mysql editor??
[07:58] <stansell> bzip2recover couldn't help: "block 1 runs from 80 to 369784 (incomplete)"
[07:58] <ipfw> peterretief:  mysqladmin && mysqlcc are a couple N00b mysql frontends
[07:58] <chalcedony> where would i look for Lynx support of bookmarks?
[07:58] <carthik> peterretief, i like phpmyadmin
[07:59] <carthik> peterretief, but that requires php + apache etc...
[07:59] <stansell> the default lynx key for bookmarks is 'a'
[07:59] <peterretief> i have tried all of those
[07:59] <peterretief> i want to set up relationships with drag n drop
[08:00] <liable> nick|here: turn your away msgs off, or you will prolly get +b
[08:00] <kartik> carthik,closing the synaptic how do i download gxine
[08:00] <peterretief> i think its time for a google search
[08:00] <joevandyk> What CPU type is a Centrino?  P4?
[08:00] <nick|here> liable: sorry :8
[08:01] <joevandyk> or pentium m?
[08:01] <carthik> kartik, okay, if you want to use synaptic, make sure you have only one window open. When you have multiple synaptic windows open, or when you have synaptic AND you are trying to use apt-get or aptitude, that is when you get the error you got earlier.
[08:01] <carthik> joevandyk, it is a pentium m, and it counts under linux-686
[08:01] <unikon>  hey whats the minimum hd space needed to install ubuntu 5.10 breezy?
[08:02] <stansell> peterretief: I haven't heard of even the eclipse support for mysql doing drap-n-drop relationships
[08:02] <carthik> joevandyk, to be precise, centrino is not the name of a processor, but of a "package" that intel uses as a marketing tool :)
[08:02] <ipfw> unikon:  full install, I'd guess 2-4Gig
[08:02] <unikon> ok ty
[08:02] <Madpilot> unikon, 1.8Gb min.
[08:02] <ipfw> unikon:  server non-X install, 400Meg or less I'd guess :)
[08:02] <carthik> unikon, you'll need at least 5 Gigs for a normal, good install
[08:03] <unikon> thanks again
[08:03] <carthik> unikon, for soemthign that is comfortable, and unhindered, and has room to grow, is what I meant
[08:04] <luckyshot> whats a .deb package?
[08:04] <peterretief> stansell: i have used one before - maybe it was a dream :)
[08:04] <carthik> luckyshot, it is a debian package, sort of like the "setup.exe" files you'd download under windows.... it automatically installs a program/application fo you, setting permissions, and putting files where they need to be
[08:05] <stansell> peterretief: it wasn't one of the windows tools using ODBC was it?
[08:05] <kartik> !is there any other alternative to download gxine
[08:05] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kartik
[08:07] <Hivemind> Heh guys, I've been able to access my Ubuntu install for quite some time (I've tried everything to get GRUB to work, LiveCD, editting from rescue mode, Super Grub disk) and I've finally given up. The files I've been unable to access are no longer important and therefore I can reinstall Ubuntu. Now, my question is: If I simply reinstall Ubuntu will it restore GRUB to the MBR (assuming I choose the correct options in the installer)?
[08:07] <kartik> how to play mpegvideo files in ubuntu
[08:08] <peterretief> stansell: i think you got me there
[08:08] <Nrbelex> Hi - I'm fairly new to Ubuntu and I have three (hopefully simple) questions - I'll ask one at a time - I tried to share a folder between Ubuntu and Windows XP by clicking "share folder" and Samba was installed but Windows didn't see the files in the netwrok area
[08:08] <stansell> my packages problem went away - all I can think is it must have been down-loading errors before
[08:09] <kartik> !how to play mpegvideo files in ubuntu
[08:09] <ubotu> kartik: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:10] <Sashi> how do i stop a process?
[08:11] <stansell> peterretief: SQuirreL SQL does abbreviation and auto-completions, but I'm not seeing drag-n-drop joins for it
[08:11] <artimo> kartik - VideoLan VLC works great in linux AND windows
[08:12] <sbartleylinux> I am trying to find freenx client and server for an amd64 system installed with Dapper Flight 5-amd64.  Anyone know where I might find .deb's that will work for that?
[08:12] <stansell> sashi: it can depend how you started it
[08:12] <stansell> sashi: also, do you want it to end completely, or just freeze for a while?
[08:13] <Gau> hmm
[08:13] <Gau> is there a way to figure out what's using sound on the system?
[08:14] <kartik> should i search for videolan vlc
[08:14] <sbartleylinux> I found seveas' packages for freenx but they are all the i386.  I cant find amd64.  Is there a way to remake the i386 packages to be amd64?
[08:14] <artimo> VideoLan or vLC - same thing.
[08:17] <Shoo-Shu> hey guys, how do i get to the bios settings?
[08:18] <stansell> Nrbelex: windows can see your ubuntu computer, but not any shares?
[08:18] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, bios of your system?
[08:18] <Shoo-Shu> yer
[08:18] <kartik> i am not able to download vlc
[08:18] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, usually, F1, F2, or Delete keys to access the bios
[08:18] <kartik> wht do ido?
[08:18] <Shoo-Shu> when do i press it?>
[08:18] <Shoo-Shu> i got told that: The reason why your conmputer starts ubuntu instead of booting from your cd is probably because your computer is configured to boot from hard disk before booting from cd rom. Try changing that in your bios settings.
[08:19] <Shoo-Shu> and i dont know how to get to the bios settings
[08:19] <Shoo-Shu> im trying to uninstall linux and go back to windows
[08:19] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, during initial boot of the system.  Usually during or right after the memory check/count
[08:19] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, hmmm.  dont know if I should help you then.:)
[08:19] <Shoo-Shu> okay... when is that
[08:19] <Shoo-Shu> lol
[08:19] <sbartleylinux> just kidding.
[08:19] <Shoo-Shu> no, my ex bf put it on here
[08:19] <Shoo-Shu> and we broke up, anhd im sick of things not working
[08:20] <Shoo-Shu> so i want to go to windows :P
[08:20] <Shoo-Shu> girls and linux dont mix :P
[08:20] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, Well, I am sorry to hear you have trouble with the system.
[08:20] <sbartleylinux> hm
[08:20] <Shoo-Shu> yer :(
[08:20] <sbartleylinux> Well,
[08:21] <sbartleylinux> You usually turn the computer on, wait 2-5 seconds and look along the bottom of the screen for a message telling you to press xxxx to get into setup.
[08:21] <sbartleylinux> xxx being F1, F2, or Del.
[08:21] <Shoo-Shu> ohhhhh
[08:21] <Shoo-Shu> sweet
[08:21] <sbartleylinux> If the message is not being displayed, you can simply start pressing the key after the first 2-5 seconds and see if it goes into setup.
[08:21] <Shoo-Shu> so that is when i put in the repair cd for windows in>?
[08:22] <sbartleylinux> Was the system setup in dual boot or just linux?
[08:22] <ipfw> any xchat wizzards in here ?
[08:22] <Shoo-Shu> urm...
[08:22] <sbartleylinux> in other words, does it have both windows and linux, or just linux?
[08:22] <Shoo-Shu> just linux
[08:22] <sbartleylinux> k.
[08:22] <Shoo-Shu> i had xp on here, and then i got ubuntu 6.4 i think it is on here
[08:22] <sbartleylinux> 6.4?
[08:22] <Shoo-Shu> well the new one
[08:22] <Shoo-Shu> what is that
[08:23] <stansell> breezy used to be 6.04
[08:23] <sbartleylinux> Well, 5.10 is the current stable release.  6.4 is coming in about 8 weeks.
[08:23] <sbartleylinux> 6.04
[08:23] <Shoo-Shu> well any hoo, all i want is the thing to be off my computer
[08:23] <unikon>  how long does it take for breezy to install on a hd
[08:24] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, Well, in a brief overview, get into the bios.  Set to boot from CD.  Put Windows XP CD in drive and reboot system.  Follow prompts to install Windows.
[08:24] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, you may have some issues with the end solution though.
[08:24] <Shoo-Shu> sweet
[08:24] <Shoo-Shu> what u mean?
[08:25] <artimo> "The End Solution?" - lol
[08:25] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, the linux install puts a new boot loader onto the system.  In my experience, re-installation of Windows fails to completely remove that on its own.
[08:25] <sbartleylinux> artimo, you got that. sweet.
[08:25] <Shoo-Shu> ...
[08:25] <Shoo-Shu> so will my computer work?
[08:25] <Madpilot> Shoo-Shu, I've got a better idea - tell us what doesn't work in your Ubuntu isntall, and fix that instead
[08:26] <Shoo-Shu> ugh, i prefer to just use windows
[08:26] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, I have found it best to use a disk partition tool like partition magic or partition commander to re-format the hard drive and clear the boot sector.
[08:26] <ipfw> I know there is a way to ignore join/part msgs with xchat, anyone know right off the top of their head ?
[08:26] <Shoo-Shu> i need to do my assignments for uni and i dont have the time to keep trying to fix up shitty computer problems. i hate them
[08:26] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with thunderbird, i cannot see my rss feeds anymore
[08:26] <stansell> shoo-shu: do you know anyone locally that could help you install windows?
[08:26] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, Once you have done that, then you can simply install from the Windows install cd.
[08:26] <Shoo-Shu> ...
[08:26] <stansell> ipfw: I just saw that option in the settings
[08:27] <unikon> shekar i put my rss feeds in my firefox taskbar
[08:27] <Shoo-Shu> whats a disk partition tool?
[08:27] <ipfw> stansell:  I must be overlooking it
[08:27] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, check at a store like compusa or such and look for software called partition commander or partition magic.
[08:27] <Shoo-Shu> ...
[08:27] <Shoo-Shu> i just want windows right now
[08:27] <Shoo-Shu> why does it have to be so hard!
[08:28] <powder> Shoo-Shu, just put the windows cd in and reboot.
[08:28] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, you can also take the computer to a store like compusa and they can perform a re-install for you.
[08:28] <Shoo-Shu> okay
[08:28] <Shoo-Shu> ...
[08:28] <Shoo-Shu> it will be okay...
[08:28] <ipfw> stansell:  I saw "track user away status and use different colors" but no ignore on join/part etc
[08:28] <Shoo-Shu> if u guys hear from me in 2 hours time, it will work
[08:28] <Shoo-Shu> if u dont..... wish me luck
[08:28] <Shoo-Shu> lol.
[08:28] <sbartleylinux> luck
[08:28] <clever> i have easycam2 installed but i cant get it to work with either of my webcams
[08:28] <Shoo-Shu> see yas.
[08:28] <stansell> ipfw: actually I'm not seeing ignore now -
[08:28] <artimo> ShooShu - If you want to fix your linux install madpilot is very good, if you want to remove it to install windows partition magic or qtparted, gpart, fdisk disk tools can clean your drive of all data and setup partitions.
[08:29] <Shoo-Shu> when ever i dl somethin it comes as tif files or something
[08:29] <Shoo-Shu> tar files
[08:29] <Shoo-Shu> and then they dont work
[08:29] <sbartleylinux> like what are you trying to download?
[08:29] <ipfw> stansell:  I knew there was a reason I've used BitchX all these years
[08:29] <Shoo-Shu> so i refuse to dl anything, and i just want windows
[08:29] <stansell> ipfw: what about "open extra tab for server notices" ?
[08:29] <Shoo-Shu> like update of gaim
[08:29] <Shoo-Shu> gaim crashed on me
[08:29] <ipfw> stansell:  its amazing, all this time, and still nothing that compares
[08:29] <Shoo-Shu> things for uni
[08:30] <Shoo-Shu> anything i dl, it wont work so i have to get ppl to tell me how to do it thru the terminal
[08:30] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu,  did you try using the tool included in Ubuntu to see if an update for Gaim was available?
[08:30] <Shoo-Shu> so i just want things easy
[08:30] <sbartleylinux> Shoo-Shu, synaptic package manager from the System/Adminstration menu?
[08:30] <Shoo-Shu> okay, bye
[08:30] <Shoo-Shu> thanks for ur help
[08:30] <Shoo-Shu> that doesnt have files for uni in there
[08:30] <lali_> Hey anyone know of a good compiler for assembly ?
[08:30] <lali_> very easy to use ?
[08:30] <Madpilot> bleh...
[08:31] <sbartleylinux> lmao
[08:31] <ipfw> stansell:  still a no-go
[08:31] <lali_> for ubuntu?... i can't find "as" on ubuntu
[08:31] <sbartleylinux> Too  clueless to understand.:)
[08:31] <stansell> ipfw: yeah, me neither
[08:31] <yggdrasil> hey guys
[08:31] <stansell> lali_: binutils package has /usr/bin/as
[08:32] <sbartleylinux> So, is anyone here familiar with freenx on amd64?
[08:32] <tamale> GAH!!~~1!@!
[08:32] <tamale> the breezy installer killed my entire hard drive!   No operating system found!!!!!   EVEN THOUGH GRUB INSTALLED FINE!?!
[08:32] <lali_> oh ok stansell thx a lot bro
[08:32] <lali_> got it
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> tamale: First, breathe.
[08:32] <tamale> is my windows installation forever gone?
[08:32] <powder> tamale, do you have multiple hard drives?
[08:33] <tamale> yah
[08:33] <tamale> 2 ide's in raid 0 and a sata
[08:33] <dj-fu> tamale, boot into recovery off the disk, and run grub-install again
[08:33] <tamale> sorry for the extra lines.. not exactly sure how that happened
[08:33] <powder> try changing boot priority in your bios to the other disks to see if grub is on them
[08:33] <dj-fu> tamale, and put it on the MBR.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> tamale: You could try reinstalling grub and see what happens in that process; either that or the wrong disk is being looked at for boot stuff; see previous comment about boot priority.
[08:34] <Se7h> tamale hda
[08:34] <stansell> peterretief: iSQL-Viewer has "A guided query builder for creating simple and complex SQL queries"
[08:34] <tamale> haha.. all sound like great suggestions
[08:34] <tamale> how do i do the recovery boot off the cd
[08:34] <tamale> just type recovery?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> tamale: rescue, I think.
[08:35] <tamale> k
[08:35] <tamale> i don't understand though
[08:35] <tamale> i didn't change my boot priorities or anything
[08:35] <tamale> so if the grub install landed in the wrong place
[08:35] <tamale> wouldn't windows still kick on like always?
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> no
[08:36] <tamale> why not?
[08:36] <powder> tamale, grub will install on the first ide drive it sees even if your sata drive is set to boot in your bios
[08:36] <tamale> oh shit
[08:36] <tamale> so now my raid array is gone?
[08:36] <unikon> how long does ubuntu breezy take to install on a hd
[08:37] <powder> tamale, no, change your bios to boot from your raid drive
[08:37] <sbartleylinux> unikon, depends on the system but about 20 minutes on most.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> unikon: approx 30 minutes
[08:37] <unikon> dang
[08:37] <sbartleylinux> unikon, that includes the initial update after first install.
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> unikon: half an hour on my box to 1 hour + on old machnies
[08:38] <tamale> fyrestrt:
[08:38] <stansell> sbartleylinux: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141195 has some AMD64 freenx info
[08:38] <unikon> :-$ install time bites
[08:38] <sbartleylinux> stansell, thx.
[08:38] <tamale> Looks like i'm getting closer... grub IS on the raid array...  but when loading i get error 21
[08:38] <tamale> i'm assuming that's cause my bios is trying to read from an array
[08:38] <powder> unikon, you could speed it up with a server install ;)
[08:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> unikon: what specs your box?
[08:38] <tamale> but ubuntu installed grub on the sindle ide drive?
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> unikon: its better than most distros.
[08:39] <powder> tamale, you need to get into your bios and look for boot priority and your questions should be answered
[08:39] <tamale> yah powder
[08:39] <unikon> 1.2 gig celeron 256 ram
[08:39] <tamale> i can pick boot devices arbitrarily with my mobo
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> unikon: 30-45 minutes to install
[08:39] <Simplex3> Hey guys, does grub install by default and will it automatically make an entry for existing Windows partitions?
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> maybe 1 hour if your not familar with the install process
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> Simplex3: If all goes well, yes.
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[08:40] <powder> tamale, does your bios see your ide drives seperate or as one raid drive?  i cannot tell you this.
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> Simplex3: if you mark the partition as bootable in the installer, then it should.
[08:40] <tamale> it's complicated
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> Simplex3: It will tell you whether or not it sees Windows before it installs itself.
[08:40] <tamale> i have to turn raid on
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> tamale: is it softraid?
[08:40] <tamale> no, it's hardware
[08:40] <tamale> nvidia
[08:40] <Simplex3> Ok.  So is there a graphical utility for configuring grub in unbuntu?
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> ooooh, nvidia.
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> Simplex3: gnome terminal.
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> Simplex3: Not that I'm aware of...
[08:41] <tamale> can't i just put grub onto the MBR of my sata disk?
[08:41] <ipfw> stansell:  just had someone give me a link to how, if  you want it ?
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> tamale: sure.
[08:41] <Simplex3> Ok.  Thanks guys.
[08:41] <unikon> kamping_kaiserr tanks for the answer
[08:41] <tamale> how would i do that?
[08:42] <Simplex3> /boot/grub/menu.lst, right?
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> tamale: you can also, if you want -- install grub on a floppy and just pop the floppy in when you want to boot into linux, preserving your existing MBR.
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> Simplex3: yes.
[08:42] <tamale> i don't have a floppy drive haha
[08:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[08:42] <suyog> i need some help with firewall and squid, please!
[08:42] <stansell> ipfw: ok thanks
[08:42] <gnu2it2> what is the best tool for handling 2 video cards and monitors on 1 box? where you can play with it as 1 desktop?
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> tamale: not sure if it will do it on a usb disk, but that would be another option.
[08:43] <stansell> sbartleylinux<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:43] <Mischevious> man, are any of you guys using firefox?
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> suyog: see a sushi chef regarding the squid, what do you need with the firewall?
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> gnu2it2: xinerama extension to X does this for you. If your card is nvidia, then enable twinview.
[08:43] <suyog> i need the firewall for internet connection sharing!
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> Mischevious: sure.
[08:43] <stansell> sbartleylinux: would you care to compile it yourself?
[08:43] <Shoo-Shu> ffs!!!!
[08:43] <tamale> i'd like to try just installing grub onto the correct disk first, if you think that'd be possible
[08:43] <Mischevious> fyrestrtr, you using fasterfox with it?
[08:43] <Shoo-Shu> okay, i give up.
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> Mischevious: no, its plenty fast as it is.
[08:44] <sbartleylinux> stansell, sure.
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> tamale: sure.
[08:44] <ipfw> stansell:  to do it global /set irc_conf_mode 1          ......... And to do it on a per channel, right click on the channel tab (bottom), and go the the channel name (#ubuntu), and then there is show join/part with a checkmark to toggle
[08:44] <sbartleylinux> stansell, I could not find the source files.
[08:44] <Mischevious> fyrestrtr, trust me, try fasterfox it increased my webbrowsing speed like 300%
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> Mischevious: its all a trick. Your browsing speed is dependent on your connection.
[08:44] <ipfw> stansell:  the global one does all new windows, so you have to join/part each one for it to take effect
[08:44] <suyog> Mischevious, what is fasterfox?
[08:44] <Mischevious> it's a plugin
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> If you want ultra-super fast browsing, use lynx
[08:44] <tamale> lol
[08:44] <Shoo-Shu> when i start up my gaim (only started to happen last night) it opens, then hand shakes, and the blue thing gets to the end and its about to start up, but the whole thing closes.... what causes this?
[08:44] <Mischevious> i know it depends on your connection but
[08:45] <Mischevious> fasterfox makes it much faster...
[08:45] <Nrbelex> stansell: sorry - went away for a sec - Windows doesn't see the Ubuntu setup at all... I think...
[08:45] <Mischevious> trust me this thing works
[08:45] <mahangu> how can i free my sound daemon? - kilalll esound?
[08:45] <Mischevious> mahangu, sudo killall esound
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> Mischevious: okay I'll take your word for it.
[08:45] <Mischevious> fyrestrtr, it's not like i have a reason to lie :-P
[08:45] <suyog> Mischevious, does it increase browsing even for dialup connections?
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Shoo-Shu: sounds like a crash
[08:45] <mahangu> thanks Mi
[08:46] <Shoo-Shu> how can i fix it?
[08:46] <tamale> holy crap, i think it booted properly (into the rescue mode)
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> aww ud rgwew ua B YOSrw die fN=im
[08:46] <tamale> how do i get grub in the right place now
[08:46] <stansell> sbartleylinux: my google search had an email archive where someone was talking about getting deb sources
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> werr.
[08:46] <Davey> weird, I can't get MySQL to bind to port 3306, any ideas why? says something else is, but I can't see it
[08:46] <Mischevious> suyog, i'm sure it does, give it a try it installs into firefox automatically http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> see if there is an update for gaim
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> Davey: check the logs?
[08:46] <Davey> fyrestrtr: the logs say it can't bind ;)
[08:46] <sbartleylinux> stansell, k. will continue to look. thx.
[08:47] <stansell> ipfw: thanks (I knew I had seen that checkmark!)
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, you sure its not running already?
[08:47] <kartik> with w32codecs can i watch movies?????
[08:47] <Mischevious> kartik, yes
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> kartik: you need a player, but yes.
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> Davey: sounds stupid, but how are you starting it?
[08:47] <jhan100> somebody know .. why the WI-FI  light of the keyboard of my HP zv6100 dont want to light ... later I configured it with the ndiswrapper ?
[08:47] <jhan100> sorry my english ....
[08:48] <Nrbelex> Hi - I tried to download the BZtanks package but when I click the icon under games, nothing happens...
[08:48] <ipfw> stansell:  it was just driving me nuts ;)
[08:48] <Davey> fyrestrtr: it's actually the apt-get install that can't start it, but neither can sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> Nrbelex: try running it from the terminal and see what output it gives you.
[08:48] <Sashi> hmm
[08:48] <Sashi> is it possible to expand the max file size?
[08:48] <Sashi> for phpmyadmin
[08:48] <ipfw> stansell:  I can tell who's here, and who's not -- If I go to tab complete the nick, and it doesn't work -- they must have fsck'n left :P
[08:48] <peterretief> Davey: is there a mysql socket
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> Sashi: just edit php.ini
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> Davey: is that the only thing in the logs? Can't bind?
[08:49] <Nrbelex> fyrestrtr: ... I'm absolutely new to this - how do I do that
[08:49] <Davey> peterretief: no, it doesn't get that far, Id on't think
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> !terminal
[08:49] <Nrbelex> haha - yea...
[08:49] <Madpilot> anyone know the name of the package that will install stuff from art.gnome.org?
[08:49] <jhan100> Somebody knows for what! the Light Wi-fi of my keyboard does not want to light in ubuntu with kernel 2.6.12-10?  I already configured  with ndiswrapper....
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> Madpilot: gnome-themes-extras I think.
[08:50] <Simplex3> Does ubuntu come with a command line utility to list all disk partitions?
[08:50] <Sashi> ?
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> Simplex3: fdisk -l
[08:50] <Sashi> and wheres php.ini
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> Sashi: don't remember, look for it :) find / -name php.ini
[08:50] <shontele_> hey, sorry, its shoo-shu. my computer froze. i didnt get what you said before about what to do when gaim crashes?
[08:51] <tamale> man, i'd be happy right now just to have my windows boot working again  :[
[08:51] <Madpilot> fyrestrtr, actually, I just found it, it's "gnome-art" - thanks, though
[08:51] <sinisterr> how can i know if dri is enabled?
[08:51] <stansell> Nrbelex, the first thing is to make sure the basic networking is setup between the machines
[08:51] <Sashi> found it..
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> tamale: boot from a windows cd, choose recovery, and then fdisk --fixmbr or something like that. I forgot the exact option.
[08:51] <Sashi> how do i edit it to make it accept bigger file sizes
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> Madpilot: mm, might install that myself.
[08:51] <tamale> thanks fyrstrtr, i'll try that
[08:52] <Madpilot> !info gnome-art
[08:52] <Nrbelex> stansell: ok - I have the networking window open in both - what should I look for/do?
[08:52] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[08:52] <shoo-shu> what do i do when gaim crashes?
[08:52] <ipfw> shoo-shu:  start it again
[08:53] <shoo-shu> i do and it does the exact same thing
[08:53] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, you running the default install of gaim?
[08:54] <stansell> Nrbelex, do you know the ping command?
[08:54] <shoo-shu> yes
[08:54] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, does it give an error message?
[08:54] <shoo-shu> no
[08:54] <shoo-shu> everytime i open it, it signs into my account
[08:54] <Nrbelex> stansell: I'm afraid not
[08:54] <powder> shoo-shu, shouldn't you be reinstalling windows? lol
[08:54] <shoo-shu> and then it says its handshaking
[08:54] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, have you checked synaptic for any updates to gaim?
[08:54] <shoo-shu> YES BUT THAT WONT WORK TOO
[08:54] <sbartleylinux> lol
[08:55] <shoo-shu> i dont even know what synaptic is
[08:55] <sbartleylinux> sorry shoo-shu  but it is funny.
[08:55] <shoo-shu> i fucking hate linux
[08:55] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, no problem.
[08:55] <tamale> lol
[08:55] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, go to the System Menu
[08:55] <shoo-shu> ...k
[08:55] <sbartleylinux> Then go to the administration menu.
[08:55] <stansell> Nrbelex, do you have a web server or ftp server running on either machine?
[08:55] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto - and swearing won't improve the quality of the help you get, BTW...
[08:55] <shoo-shu> lol
[08:55] <sbartleylinux> Look towards the bottom.
[08:55] <Nrbelex> stansell:no
[08:55] <shoo-shu> you have no idea.
[08:55] <shoo-shu> i see it
[08:55] <sbartleylinux> k. start it.
[08:56] <shoo-shu> yer
[08:56] <sbartleylinux> should prompt for your password.
[08:56] <chmod775> !apache
[08:56] <shoo-shu> nope
[08:56] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:56] <shoo-shu> but its completly open
[08:56] <shoo-shu> do i search for gaim?
[08:56] <sbartleylinux> k.
[08:56] <sbartleylinux> correct.
[08:57] <shoo-shu> yep thats fone
[08:57] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu,  what version does it show is installed. (green)?
[08:57] <shoo-shu> should i be looking for a update or something in particular>
[08:57] <shoo-shu> how do i find out?
[08:57] <sbartleylinux> in the list it comes up with when you searched, does it show gaim?
[08:57] <shoo-shu> is the square marked?
[08:57] <stansell> shoo-shu thinks she has one of the dapper pre-releases, so she might need to upgrade more than just gaim
[08:58] <sbartleylinux> square would be green to show installed.
[08:58] <shoo-shu> yer
[08:58] <sbartleylinux> stansell, true.
[08:58] <Madpilot> stansell, ack - no wonder she's having more trouble than most...
[08:58] <shoo-shu> version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20
[08:58] <sinisterr> anyone know?
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> shoo-shu: is it reapeatable?
[08:59] <shoo-shu> there is a gaim-data also checked
[08:59] <shoo-shu> well green
[08:59] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, k.
[08:59] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, well, the good news is you are on the correct and latest version.
[08:59] <stansell> Nrbelex, ok - we'll go back to ping
[08:59] <shoo-shu> and a nautilus- sendto
[08:59] <tamale> fyresrtr:  I did the XP cd fixmbr command, which looked like it did it's thing, but I'm still getting "Error loading operating system" when trying to boot from my sata drive with windows on it
[08:59] <shoo-shu> ...and the bad news is?
[08:59] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, the bad news is taht Madpilot is correct.  you appear to be on the pre-release version of Ubuntu Linux
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> shoo-shu: is the error repeatable?
[08:59] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, with that version number, you likely are running some version of Dapper - the test install...
[08:59] <stansell> Nrbelex, on your ubuntu do you have Applications -> System Tools -> Network tools ?
[09:00] <Madpilot> !info gaim
[09:00] <Nrbelex> stansell: yes
[09:00] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[09:00] <shoo-shu> it happens everytime i open gaim
[09:00] <Nrbelex> stansell: I'm in the ping tab
[09:00] <shoo-shu> and no error message comes up
[09:00] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, this means that the version of Linux you are on is really not stable yet.
[09:00] <tamale> no need to let mw down easy, I know I'm in deep crap now..  :(
[09:00] <shoo-shu> it just goes away
[09:00] <shoo-shu> ...does that mean it will make it easier for me to go to windows :D
[09:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> shoo-shu: try starting it in a terminal and see what gets displayed
[09:00] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, hit the Reload button in Synaptic, then (when reload finishes) the Mark All Updates button
[09:01] <shoo-shu> how do i start what in a terminal?
[09:01] <shoo-shu> k
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> shoo-shu: open a terminal (applications -> accesories -> terminal), then type "gaim"
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> and hit enter
[09:02] <stansell> Nrbelex, ok - put in the name of your windows box and click the ping button
[09:02] <shoo-shu> exact same thing
[09:02] <joseph> Start --> Run --> command --> format c:
[09:02] <tamale> awesome lol.. now the only person who was following me and my problems is no longer here
[09:03] <Nrbelex> stansell: "cannot be found"
[09:03] <tamale> and i've lost my perfectly good windows install
[09:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> shoo-shu: does it display anything in the terminal?
[09:03] <joseph> there's no such thing as a perfectly good windows install
[09:03] <joseph> lol
[09:03] <shoo-shu> yes
[09:03] <shoo-shu> where do i paste it?
[09:03] <tamale> well it worked  :P
[09:03] <stansell> Nrbelex, I was afraid of that, but we can deal with it
[09:03] <stansell> Nrbelex, do you know the IP address for the windows machine?
[09:03] <Nrbelex> stansell: I take that back, I entered in the IP and it worked
[09:03] <shoo-shu> its all about something attempted to dump a core file
[09:03] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - then just post the paste.ubuntu-nl URL here
[09:04] <shoo-shu> and this is a bug in the software and has happened through no fault of my own
[09:04] <tamale> i dumped a core on your mom last night
[09:04] <Madpilot> tamale, not funny.
[09:04] <stansell> Nrbelex, oh -ok
[09:04] <kartik> how to play vcd files in ubuntu???????????????????????????????????please help?
[09:04] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, the development version of Ubuntu really isn't supposed to be run by regular users (I don't run it myself), and it breaks a LOT more than the release versions of Ubuntu...
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> !tell kartik about restrictedformats
[09:05] <shoo-shu> ...
[09:05] <shoo-shu> what does that mean?
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> shoo-shu: and you should be asking about it in #ubuntu+1
[09:05] <sbartleylinux> Madpilot, shoo-shu's ex boyfriend installed it and left it for her when they parted ways.
[09:05] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, it means your ex-boyfriend has saddled you with a mess...
[09:06] <shoo-shu> ...
[09:06] <shoo-shu> what do i do?
[09:06] <tamale> Madpilot:  noy funny
[09:06] <Verithrax> How can I get my hardware sensors working under Ubuntu? Just add a modprobe line to the module config file?
[09:06] <shoo-shu> my computer is f'd isnt it?
[09:06] <Madpilot> !tell Verithrax about sensors
[09:06] <Sashi> how do i stop apache?
[09:07] <tamale> anti-aircraft
[09:07] <tamale> :]
[09:07] <stansell> shoo-shu, someone local would be able to give you better help
[09:07] <Frogzoo> shoo-shu: there are many shades and degrees of f'd
[09:07] <shoo-shu> ... what do u mean?
[09:07] <shoo-shu> i dont know anybody who uses linuc
[09:07] <shoo-shu> linux*
[09:07] <shoo-shu> and this is my uni computer and i need it!!!
[09:07] <tabber> anyone can help me setting up an ati radeon xpress 200M?
[09:07] <stansell> maybe there's a computer club at the uni ?
[09:07] <shoo-shu> ive backed up my files.
[09:07] <tamale> seriously though, does anyone else here know much about getting multiple OS's to boot when they're on a SATA drive?
[09:08] <tamale> i'm not having any luck whatsoever
[09:08] <shoo-shu> and all i want is windows
[09:08] <tamale> and i think my windows install is borked
[09:08] <tabber> ati radeon xpress 200m?
[09:08] <Frogzoo> shoo-shu: so put a notice on the uni noticeboard, some impoverished CS student woult be glad to help I'm sure
[09:08] <tabber> anyone?
[09:08] <shoo-shu> ....
[09:08] <Frogzoo> tabber: fglrx drivers from the seveas repo is step #1
[09:08] <shoo-shu> and what do i do in the meantime with gaim?
[09:09] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, did you post the error messages?
[09:09] <stansell> or there may be an ubuntu-local
[09:09] <shoo-shu> urm, whos name do i put on there?
[09:10] <Sashi> how can i get glxgears to show fps?
[09:10] <Quinn_Storm> Sashi: glxgears -printfps
[09:10] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, you should just put your shoo-shu nick.
[09:10] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, in the paste thing? You don't need to put any name
[09:10] <shoo-shu> it says name
[09:10] <shoo-shu> and then a tab that says send
[09:10] <shoo-shu> well abutton
[09:10] <stansell> what are the chances of the breezy version of gaim working for shoo-shu?
[09:10] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, just leave it blank, then hit send, and post the URL you get here
[09:11] <Madpilot> stansell, on a Dapper test install? Probably not high
[09:11] <shoo-shu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10818
[09:11] <shoo-shu> is that it?
[09:11] <Sashi> is 1.5k fps good?
[09:11] <h0nus> i need some help with installation of a program...
[09:11] <tabber> ati radeon xpress 200m?
[09:11] <tabber> anyone?
[09:11] <Sashi> tabber, whatcha need
[09:12] <Nrbelex> stansell: I was able tp ping the windows computer, what now?
[09:12] <Frogzoo> tabber: ^^^ (learn to read)
[09:12] <tabber> installing the drivers
[09:12] <Frogzoo> !tell tabber about ati
[09:12] <tabber> if i do glxgears i get very low fps
[09:12] <Sashi> !tell myself about stuff
[09:12] <Sashi> :P
[09:12] <Sashi> i dunno what is 'stuff'.
[09:12] <Sashi> XD
[09:12] <shoo-shu> Madpilot: did u get the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10818
[09:13] <Madpilot> shoo-shu, I did - but I'm not sure what to suggest, to be honest
[09:13] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, got it. Looking now.
[09:13] <Frogzoo> tabber: install the fglrx driver from the seveas repo, then get back to us
[09:13] <shoo-shu> lol
[09:13] <shoo-shu> thanks guys
[09:13] <shoo-shu> *sigh*
[09:13] <prudhvi> !kernel
[09:13] <shoo-shu> i knew it was a bad idea getting him to put it on my computer
[09:13] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, do you still have synaptic open?
[09:13] <tabber> the thing is that the third step says "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg #Select the fglrx driver"
[09:13] <h0nus> is there a channel someone can direct me to for help with installation of 3rd party programs?
[09:13] <shoo-shu> i sure do
[09:14] <stansell> launchpad shows the latest gaim as  1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu6
[09:14] <nick|here> how to kill a process we know the  pid??
[09:14] <tabber> i dont know what driver to select:s
[09:14] <joseph> nick|here:  kill -9 <pid>
[09:14] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, did you do the reload, upgrade all?
[09:14] <shoo-shu> yes
[09:14] <shoo-shu> wait
[09:14] <shoo-shu> what is upgrade all?
[09:14] <shoo-shu> i clicked mark all upgrades
[09:14] <sbartleylinux> the mark all upgrades.
[09:14] <sbartleylinux> k.
[09:14] <shoo-shu> yer
[09:15] <shoo-shu> it said no package is selected
[09:15] <tamale> can i choose where grub gets installed to - specifically, make sure it goes onto the same drive that i just installed the / partition to ???
[09:15] <sbartleylinux> after that, look in the list to see if gaim is listed in packages to be updated.
[09:15] <sbartleylinux> ah.
[09:15] <sbartleylinux> k.
[09:15] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, if you want, we can try uninstalling gaim and reinstalling it.
[09:15] <shoo-shu> well if that will work than yer
[09:15] <prudhvi> what package provides latest Ubuntu Linux Kernel Source
[09:15] <prudhvi> i mean i need to compile it
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> tamale: grub-install /dev/whatever
[09:16] <stansell> Nrbelex, sorry - probaby best to do the reverse - ping from windows to ubuntu
[09:16] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, no promise but worth the try.
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> prudhvi: just download the source from kernel.org
[09:16] <shoo-shu> k.
[09:16] <tamale> ahh, fyre, you're back
[09:16] <stansell> Nrbelex, I'm not aware of a graphical tool on windows for that though
[09:16] <tamale> that windows fixmbr thing didn't fix it
[09:16] <chmod775> I installed mysql how do I get into SQL prompt
[09:16] <chmod775> ?
[09:16] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, I am currently running dapper flight 5 also and have gaim running so it should work.
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> tamale: it didn't?
[09:16] <prudhvi> fyrestrtr, i used debian, where in we have a seperate package where i can apt-get it
[09:16] <Nrbelex> stansell: where can I find my IP in Ubuntu
[09:16] <tamale> i still got the "error loading operating system"
[09:16] <stansell> Nrbelex, can you start on cmd prompt on windows?
[09:16] <shoo-shu> i know it should work
[09:16] <Frogzoo> Nrbelex: ifconfig
[09:17] <shoo-shu> it was working fine
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> prudhvi: since ubuntu is debian, just check for the same package.
[09:17] <Nrbelex> stansell: yes, its open
[09:17] <shoo-shu> until last night
[09:17] <chmod775> mysql -u root -p it prompts the password ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[09:17] <chmod775> ?
[09:17] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, to try and start from a clean slate with gaim, lets close synaptic by clicking the x in the upper right corner.
[09:17] <shoo-shu> it just turned off, and i turned it back on and ever since it doesnt work again
[09:17] <Nrbelex> stansell: IPconfig in Ubuntu?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> chmod775: did you setup a root user?
[09:17] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, the computer or gaim?
[09:17] <Frogzoo> Nrbelex: sigh - can't anybody read anymore? ifconfig
[09:17] <stansell> Nrbelex, system -> administration -> networking on ubuntu should show it
[09:17] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu,  turned off that is.
[09:17] <shoo-shu> gaim
[09:17] <sbartleylinux> k.
[09:17] <stansell> Nrbelex, or ipconfig would too
[09:17] <chmod775> no fyrestrtr
[09:18] <chmod775> How do I do that
[09:18] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, after closing synaptic, go ahead and start synaptic again.
[09:18] <tamale> fyrestartrt:  Do you think i can get my windows partition botting properly again if i fix grub ?
[09:18] <chmod775> ??
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> chmod775: then, you won't have one. Just type mysql
[09:18] <chmod775> ok
[09:18] <neoxan> whats the name of this config editor for nautilus/gnome?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> tamale: I can't guarantee anything, but I can show you how to setup grub for windows.
[09:18] <chmod775> ashish@ash:/usr$ mysql
[09:18] <chmod775> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'ashish@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> mysql -u root
[09:18] <tamale> fyrestrtr:  that's all i'm trying to do
[09:18] <stansell> Nrbelex, did you find your ubuntu IP address?
[09:18] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, got synaptic back up and running again?
[09:18] <tamale> i just re-installed again to the / partition i made
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> tamale: install grub first on the boot drive.
[09:19] <chmod775> ok cool it went into mysql prompt
[09:19] <shoo-shu> urm, hang on
[09:19] <tamale> how do i do that though
[09:19] <sbartleylinux> k
[09:19] <tamale> it's gonna install it onto the ides again
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> tamale: what device is your boot drive?
[09:19] <shoo-shu> now it i
[09:19] <shoo-shu> s
[09:19] <Nrbelex> stansell: no - I tried IP config but all I get is the Windows IP
[09:19] <tamale> my sata drive
[09:19] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, k.
[09:19] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, click on search and search for gaim.
[09:19] <shoo-shu> k
[09:19] <Nrbelex> stansell: and I can't find it in Network Settings either...
[09:19] <tamale> i'm right at the screen that's asking if i wanna install grub onto the master boot record.. my only options are yes and no
[09:19] <stansell> Nrbelex, sorry - the ubuntu command is ifconfig
[09:20] <tamale> last time i chose yes, and everything broke lol
[09:20] <neoxan> whats the name of this config editor for nautilus/gnome?
[09:20] <chmod775> fyrestrtr, it went into mysql prompt and how do I create export all the tables from a drupal file
[09:20] <chmod775> ?
[09:20] <sbartleylinux> right click on the gaim item with the green box.
[09:20] <shoo-shu> done
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> tamale: sudo grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda1
[09:20] <shoo-shu> yer
[09:20] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, select for complete removal.
[09:20] <tamale> how can i type?!  i'm in the installer
[09:20] <neoxan> i mean that
[09:20] <neoxan> whats the name of this config editor for nautilus/gnome?
[09:20] <stansell> Nrbelex, you probably want eth0
[09:20] <neoxan>  Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[09:20] <neoxan> this one
[09:20] <shoo-shu> click apply?
[09:20] <neoxan> does it have a name?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> chmod775: this is not mysql support channel, ask in #mysql
[09:20] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, yes.
[09:21] <Nrbelex> stansell: yes - I right clicked on it - then propertirs but I don't see something in the form of 198.168.2.X
[09:21] <htrp> what is XML ?
[09:21] <htrp> !xml
[09:21] <ubotu> htrp: What?   Now, right click on gaim and select for install and then apply
[09:21] <blanky> !ati
[09:21] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:21] <shoo-shu> k
[09:22] <tamale> i chose no and it's giving me a big list of examples
[09:22] <tamale> looks like i can type my own location
[09:22] <stansell> Nrbelex, the network tools window on ubuntu can show the address
[09:22] <tamale> i wrote down the info from the partition table
[09:22] <tamale> my sata drive is sda
[09:22] <tamale>   0,0,0
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> tamale: what type of installation are you doing? it should be custom-expert. I don't know what its showing you because I haven't done that on the ubuntu installer.
[09:22] <tamale> scsi3
[09:22] <tamale> oh
[09:22] <stansell> Nrbelex, devices tab - then select eth0
[09:23] <Nrbelex> stansell: I got it - its not in the same form as all the other Windows IPs on the network
[09:23] <stansell> XML: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML
[09:23] <tamale> i'm pretty sure i'm in the right place... i just gotta figure out how to say "sda"  properly at this prompt
[09:23] <Nrbelex> stansell: and I pinged it from windows and its good
[09:23] <tamale> their examples are putting it in parantheses
[09:23] <stansell> Nrbelex, what does it start with?
[09:23] <tamale> like    (hd0)
[09:24] <shoo-shu> okay do i click apply?
[09:24] <Nrbelex> stansell:127
[09:24] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, yep.
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> tamale: yes, this is grub's syntax.
[09:24] <shoo-shu> and all i need to install is gaim and gaim-data?
[09:24] <tamale> ok cool
[09:24] <tamale> so will  (sda)  work ok?
[09:24] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, I believe that is correct.
[09:24] <tamale> or do i need a number ?
[09:24] <shoo-shu> cool
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> tamale: no
[09:24] <shoo-shu> its installing
[09:24] <shoo-shu> well dling
[09:24] <sbartleylinux> k
[09:24] <shoo-shu> downloading*
[09:24] <stansell> Nrbelex, that sounds like the loopback address - <IP_ADDRESS> - everyone can ping that because it means "ping myself"
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> tamale: grub has tab complete, so hit (s<tab> or (h<tab> and see what choices it gives you
[09:25] <tamale> ahh cool
[09:25] <grndslm> i really need some help....i emptied out my trash can, and apparently the contents on my desktop were inside it....i assure you i never dragged it there, not even accidentally, anyway....now everything's gone
[09:25] <Nrbelex> stansell: I'm an idiot - I still can't find the 192 IP address I was looking for...
[09:25] <tamale> ahh crap, tab takes me to the continue and goback fields  :(
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> tamale: are you at the grub prompt, or somewhere else?
[09:25] <Nrbelex> stansell: got it
[09:25] <shoo-shu> done
[09:25] <shoo-shu> now what?
[09:25] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, try starting gaim.
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> grub prompt looks like grub>
[09:25] <shoo-shu> k
[09:25] <shoo-shu> brb
[09:25] <tamale> i'm at the "Install GRUB boot loader on a hard disk"  step of the installer
[09:26] <grndslm> can i get anything back, or is it hopeless....i take it the trash can uses the rm command or hopefully some other method????
[09:26] <tamale> i just chose NO
[09:26] <Nrbelex> stansell: and I got a response when pinging from windows on the 198 IP
[09:26] <stansell> Nrbelex, ok - cool
[09:26] <Frogzoo> grndslm: I don't like your chances - 'nix is very unforgiving over unintended deletes
[09:26] <tamale> it says  "The device can be specified using GRUB's notation, or as a device in /dev."
[09:26] <shoo-shu> nope
[09:26] <shoo-shu> same shit
[09:26] <shoo-shu> i mean.... stuff happened
[09:26] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, :) sorry to hear that.
[09:27] <shoo-shu> :(
[09:27] <stansell> Nrbelex, what happens if you put \\198.x.x.x (fill in the x's) in the windows explorer?
[09:27] <shoo-shu> where does this leave me?
[09:27] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, what kind of computer is it?  Pentium, amd, xeon?
[09:27] <grndslm> Frogzoo, i've definitely laughed at people for stuff like this before, but i know that the contents were not in there when i clicked "empty"...but somehow they ARE gone....this is ridiculous
[09:27] <shoo-shu> a compaq presario laptop
[09:27] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, model?
[09:27] <grndslm> nobody has ANY words of advice for recovering accidentally deleted files?
[09:27] <shoo-shu> urm.......
[09:28] <Nrbelex> stansell: msn search comes up and says it can't be found
[09:28] <shoo-shu> hang on
[09:28] <Quinn_Storm> grndslm: backups.
[09:28] <artimo> grndslm - forensic tools - linux is open source so there is hope.
[09:28] <sbartleylinux> k
[09:28] <stansell> Nrbelex, even with the backslashes in front?
[09:28] <Frogzoo> grndslm: I agree - it doesn't sound like a happy situation
[09:28] <tamale> cool, it looks like it took  /dev/sda   properly
[09:28] <tamale> i'm rebooting now
[09:28] <tamale> YES
[09:28] <tamale> GRUB's UP!
[09:28] <martyv> if they are text files you can "cat /dev/hda | grep textinfile"
[09:28] <tamale> :D
[09:28] <Frogzoo> grndslm: breezy or dapper?
[09:28] <grndslm> artimo, what distro would you recommend and what software??
[09:29] <tamale> I LOVE YOU FYRESTRTR
[09:29] <grndslm> Frogzoo, breezy
[09:29] <stansell> Nrbelex, what happens if you ping the ubuntu hostname instead of IP from windows?
[09:29] <shoo-shu> v2417au
[09:29] <sbartleylinux> k. brb
[09:29] <Nrbelex> stansell: no - sorry - now I just we could not find... in an error box
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> tamale: =) glad it worked
[09:29] <tamale> what the crap!    -    root error 32 - selected hard disk does not exist
[09:29] <tamale> LOL
[09:29] <tamale> err 21
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> tamale: you put the wrong entry in grub.
[09:29] <Frogzoo> grndslm: I really have no idea what could have gone wrong, but would be great to know - to save others the same pain
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> that's okay, just edit the menu.
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> you can do that from within grub.
[09:30] <tamale> but at least grub actually started
[09:30] <artimo> There is likely a much easier way but i stumbled on "Helix 1.6" and use it all the time.  bootable knoppix based distro.
[09:30] <tamale> yah
[09:30] <Nrbelex> stansell: I get a response
[09:31] <tamale> it was 0,2
[09:31] <tamale> interesting
[09:31] <stansell> Nrbelex, ok , on windows can you bring up the search for computer?  and put in the ubuntu name
[09:31] <tamale> ok, so i have some pretty useful information for people in my situation
[09:31] <martyv> grndslm, as long as you turned off the computer immediately - the blocks on disk should still be there
[09:31] <tamale> the drive ordering changes between installer and grub running
[09:31] <grndslm> anybody have any forensics software they'd recommend??
[09:31] <artimo> linux sleuth kit is just one of the dozens of apps included.
[09:31] <martyv> grndslm, there are tools line undelete - http://www.stud.tu-ilmenau.de/~mojo/undelete.html
[09:31] <grndslm> martyv...i signed on as soon as i realized what happened
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> so you got it working then?
[09:32] <grndslm> martyv, you're my f'in hero
[09:32] <tamale> yah, it's booting ubuntu
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> good good
[09:32] <tamale> i'll try to fix windows later
[09:32] <Nrbelex> stansell: I'm asked for a username and password
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> tamale: fixing windows is easy.
[09:32] <stansell> Nrbelex, excellent!
[09:32] <tamale> probably just a fuxed boot.ini
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> just need to add the right command, once you've logged in.
[09:32] <martyv> grndslm, you will need something like a live cd and work with the disk unmounted to maximise your chances
[09:32] <tamale> with the recovery console or what?
[09:33] <grndslm> martyv, i take it that that will work with ext3 also?
[09:33] <Nrbelex> stansell: ... but my root password doesn't work...
[09:33] <tamale> can i pm you fyre?
[09:33] <stansell> Nrbelex, have you tried your ubuntu username and password?
[09:33] <martyv> grndslm, yes they are basically the same - ext3 just has journallying as an added extra
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> tamale: I am saying if the grub entry is not correct, you can correct that from the shell (ubuntu). If Windows itself is corrupted, then you'll need to re-install it, which means that now your MBR will have the Windows bootloader, and not grub.
[09:33] <Madpilot> Nrbelex, by default whenever Ubuntu asks for a password, it's looking for your own user pw
[09:34] <Nrbelex> stansell: Since I haven't set up any other users, isn't my root password the same as my user password?
[09:34] <tamale> fyrestrtr:  you really think it would've hurt my windows install though?  I don't understand why it would, just messing with the MBR and partition tables
[09:34] <stansell> maddler, Nrbelex is trying to share a directory from ubuntu to windows
[09:34] <grndslm> martyv, sweet....just out of curiousity, i assume other filesystems have similar software for recovery?
[09:34] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, k. looks like it is an AMD Sempron Mobile processor.
[09:34] <introvert> Nrbelex: You should probably make a partition in which both Windows and Linux can read/right to.
[09:35] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, can you bring up a terminal again? Applications, Accessories, Terminal
[09:35] <martyv> grndslm, probably
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> tamale: no it wouldn't have, I just suspect it doesn't have the correct entry in grub
[09:35] <khanman02> whenever i open a file from places (in gnome), it opens in Konqueror, how do i stop this?
[09:35] <introvert> Nrbelex: Maybe do a little Filesystem research on wikipedia
[09:35] <shoo-shu> yer
[09:35] <grndslm> any recommendations for a live cd that has e2fsprogs??  backtrack, perhaps?
[09:35] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, type in the following    uname -ra
[09:35] <introvert> Nrbelex: FAT32 I believe both Linux and Windows can read/right
[09:35] <tamale> fyrestrtr:  ok, well we'll see soon enough I guess.   I'm really just more interested in getting ubuntu to work properly
[09:35] <Nrbelex> introvert: is it that difficult to share without doing?
[09:36] <Nrbelex> introvert: what's Samba's purpose?
[09:36] <martyv> grndslm, just so you know i haven't done this thing for a long time (last thing similar was recovering a trashed partition table), but generally this just takes patience (and helpful tols)
[09:36] <introvert> Nrbelex:
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> tamale: well seems everything is working. Make sure you've got your nvidia stuff detected properly.
[09:36] <introvert> I've never used Samba
[09:36] <senator32> HELP i am running ubuntu 5.10 on a ibook G4...i cant seem to get the WIFI working. I usually use ndiswrapper but apparently i cant with the PPC install.. Anyone know how to get this working?
[09:36] <tamale> fyrestrtr:  I've got plenty more problems headed my way, with a 1680x1050 dell LCD, dual monitors, and all other things that should be a real pain to install
[09:36] <stansell> Nrbelex, you don't really have a root password - just the sudo and gksudo command allow root privilege using your user password
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> tamale: what video card?
[09:36] <tamale> 7800 GT
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> is that ... nvidia?
[09:36] <introvert> Yes
[09:36] <tamale> yah
[09:36] <grndslm> martyv, i've got all night, that was practically 3 or 4 years worth of memorabilia, etc
[09:36] <martyv> senator32, NDIS is windows thingies
[09:36] <shoo-shu> what do u  want done with what it just showed?
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> tamale: then its easy because the binary drivers have twinview support =) just need to configure your X
[09:37] <senator32> i suppose thats a good point
[09:37] <grndslm> going to read the contents of backtrack really quickly
[09:37] <Nrbelex> stansell: I see - because I'm the only user I've set up?
[09:37] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, post the result like before.
[09:37] <senator32> i just saw it was a brodcom chip
[09:37] <tamale> that's just it, i'm not good at all with x configurations
[09:37] <martyv> senator32, unless your mac is usuing windows drivers i think you're out of luck
[09:37] <introvert> tamale: xorgconfig
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> its really easy once you get past the (somewhat) cryptic syntax.
[09:37] <tamale> and i've heard the dell monitor resolution is a bitch to support
[09:37] <senator32> wow
[09:37] <senator32> hmmm
[09:37] <introvert> tamale: If you want to send me a query I can probably help you in private
[09:38] <shoo-shu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10819
[09:38] <sbartleylinux> k
[09:38] <sbartleylinux> brb
[09:38] <stansell> Nrbelex, yes although you can setup more users to work the same way, where their password gives them root privilege
[09:38] <shoo-shu> is that right?
[09:38] <schmity> my ubuntu computer has spyware, how do i get it off?
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> schmity: install Windows
[09:38] <tamale> introvert:  sent
[09:38] <Nrbelex> stansell: I see - what password do I need to enter into the userbox I'm presented with after entering my hostname into explorer?
[09:38] <introvert> schmity: What are the characteristics of the spyware?
[09:38] <schmity> fyrestrtr: how?
[09:39] <artimo> spyware for ubuntu? - hm - that would be a very new thing. - grin
[09:39] <stansell> Nrbelex, back to sharing files, I don't have samba installed here so I'm going to be a little in the dark
[09:39] <schmity> introvert: it keeps downloading porn, and deleting my hard drive
[09:39] <schmity> what?
[09:39] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, yep.
[09:39] <introvert> schmity: I suggest you reinstall your webbrowser
[09:39] <Nrbelex> stansell: I also tried to do something similar from the places -> Network Server area and had the same password issue
[09:40] <shambling> wowww dapper amd64 is so fast with vlc now have got geforce working!!
[09:40] <senator32> martyv the only thing that makes me wonder is that lspci shows that the internal wifi card is broadcom...do you think it is at all possible to load a standard broadcom driver into linux?
[09:40] <shoo-shu> k
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> schmity: I suggest you find another way to let off hormones than download porn.
[09:40] <schmity> fyrestrtr: like...
[09:40] <artimo> no one is saying Debian is uncrackable it is just that we linux users are a smaller group of users.
[09:40] <introvert> tamale: I didn't get your query, though I've queried you.
[09:40] <dj-fu> it IS possible, senator32 , its' been done many times with ndiswrapper
[09:40] <grndslm> could somebody please save me some time and answer a fairly simple question....which live cd would be best (and definitely easiest) and include e2fsprogs to recover data?? backtrack, system rescue??
[09:40] <tamale> introvert: yah, i see your messages
[09:40] <shoo-shu> well porn was the whole reason why i went to linux
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> schmity: find a grilfriend
[09:40] <stansell> Nrbelex, on the ubuntu directory you want to share to windows, bring up the sharing properties
[09:40] <shoo-shu> and now it has backstabbed me
[09:40] <tamale> introvert:  Do you have any other IM clients?
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> grndslm: knoppix
[09:41] <senator32> dj-fu im trying an install with a ibook
[09:41] <senator32> not a windows machine
[09:41] <martyv> senator32, well that's a possibility - i guess assuming that it connects to the PCI bus the same way it might work
[09:41] <schmity> fyrestrtr: how do i do that?
[09:41] <dj-fu> ah
[09:41] <tamale> introvert:  Have you gotten any of my messages at all?
[09:41] <dj-fu> pass :)
[09:41] <introvert> tamale: Yeah, you can respond to me, I just didn't see your original message
[09:41] <introvert> tamale: Err, try now
[09:41] <dj-fu> senator32, try find the windaz driver for your wifi card
[09:41] <senator32> windaz?
[09:41] <Nrbelex> Stansell: Ok, I hit "Share Folder" - I'm now looking at the path then a share with: option box
[09:41] <dj-fu> That's like Windows with a gangsta lean
[09:41] <dj-fu> we keep it poppin here in the world of linux
[09:41] <heyjoe2> can anyone help me with installing a limewire rpm file
[09:42] <grndslm> fyrestrtr, any recommendations before i save this to anywhere but my home directory and eventually reboot??
[09:42] <introvert> tamale: Join #tamale
[09:42] <schmity> fyrestrtr: how do i do that?
[09:42] <Nrbelex> Stansell: I select my only choice, SMB and it says "Share Properties"
[09:42] <heyjoe2> and installing the bin/sh
[09:42] <stansell> Nrbelex, does it say anything about who you want to allow to see it?
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> senator32: ndiswrapper has broadcom support
[09:42] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, k. Well, you have a couple of options as I see it.  You can fix your bios and re-install Windows (perhaps someone local can help with that)
[09:42] <artimo> !tell heyjoe2 about alien
[09:42] <shoo-shu> what does that mean?
[09:42] <Nrbelex> Stansell: "Allow browsing folder" but I had that checked befoore
[09:42] <shoo-shu> wait
[09:42] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, you can fix your bios and reinstall the stable release 5.10 of Ubuntu.
[09:42] <shoo-shu> nvm, i get it
[09:42] <shoo-shu> lol
[09:43] <shoo-shu> hrms, whats the easier one?
[09:43] <Nrbelex> stansell: Do i need a specific name for the "share properties"?
[09:43] <senator32> fyrestrtr i realize but im trying to install this on a mac ibook..ndiswrapper wont install from synaptic
[09:43] <heyjoe2> artimo: its use is discouraged?
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> grndslm: you can always emerge the tools in ubuntu
[09:43] <senator32> i would love to get ndiswrapper installed
[09:43] <Nrbelex> Stansell: I also have General Windows Sharing Settings
[09:43] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, well, both about equal as you have to get into the bios and then do an install no matter what.  However, since the system is installed with Ubuntu, you would avoid
[09:43] <stansell> Nrbelex, no you can name the share whatever you want
[09:43] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu,  the need to fix the boot sector if you reloaded with Ubuntu.
[09:43] <heyjoe2> artimo: im a beginner so i probably shouldnt be messing out with volatile programs
[09:44] <Nrbelex> Stansell: which give me "host description:, "Doman/Workgroup" and WINS server options
[09:44] <shoo-shu> i prefer windows
[09:44] <shoo-shu> what do u mean fix the bios?
[09:44] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, If you want Windows, you are going to have to do something with a tool like partition magic to fix the boot sector of the hard drive before you reinstall.
[09:44] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, you need to get into the bios and tell it to boot from the CD before booting from the hdd.
[09:44] <artimo> heyjoe2 - it can really foul things up. the directory structures and dependencies. - much better to install from source code
[09:45] <stansell> Nrbelex, you don't have a WINS server, windows domain server, active directory, or anything like that do you?
[09:45] <senator32> is there anyway to install NDISWRAPPER manually even though the system apparently does not want me too?
[09:45] <grndslm> fyrestrtr, i guess i could just unmount the home directory, huh??
[09:45] <Nrbelex> stansell: not that I'm aware of...
[09:45] <wd3> how can i automount my cdrw and dvdrw?
[09:45] <gary_> Anyone know an easy way i can make a logfile print to terminal ever X seconds?
[09:45] <flodine> does dapper got a release date
[09:46] <shoo-shu> i know how to get into the bios... i press esc when i start up the computer
[09:46] <stansell> Nrbelex, do you see any options for permissions, security or users?
[09:46] <Madpilot> flodine, 1st of June
[09:46] <stansell> !dapper
[09:46] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:46] <martyv> garage, normally you just tail it continually "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[09:46] <interneti> would anyone be willing to help me with xorg
[09:46] <shoo-shu> but i put the cd in, and on the list all it came up with was all ubuntu stuff
[09:46] <shoo-shu> nothing saying about the cd or windows
[09:46] <Nrbelex> Stansell: just the read only or allow browsing check boxes
[09:46] <flodine> wow that a set back
[09:46] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, k.  you will need to get into the bios and access the boot device priority and select CD as the first boot device.
[09:47] <gary_> linux Noob seeks assistance to make logfile print to terminal every X seconds!
[09:47] <shoo-shu> how do i do that\
[09:47] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, then, you boot the computer using the windows boot cd.
[09:47] <stansell> gary_: tail -f is your friend
[09:47] <shoo-shu> is the windows boot cd called application and driver recovery cd?
[09:47] <Sashi> what in the world
[09:47] <shoo-shu> or the operating system cd?
[09:47] <Sashi> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 26 01:09:07 2006
[09:47] <gary_> stansell excellent now i have a place to start!
[09:47] <stansell> Nrbelex, have you looked on help.ubuntu.com?
[09:47] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, the operating system cd
[09:48] <shoo-shu> okay
[09:48] <martyv> gary, or "watch --int 10 cat myfile" if you really like pain
[09:48] <shoo-shu> so when i turn off my computer
[09:48] <shoo-shu> i turn it back on, i press esc and then put the cd in and then it should come up on that list that says all this stuff about ubuntu?
[09:48] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, nope.
[09:49] <shoo-shu> well thats where i f'd up
[09:49] <Nrbelex> stansell: I did some google searching using the term Samba mosty and only got help for prior releases
[09:49] <Eleaf> How can I set pcm to be my capture device?
[09:49] <Nrbelex> Stansell: which either didn't apply here or were wayyy to complicated
[09:49] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, you turn computer off.  turn computer on.  Press Esc.  Change boot priority in the bios to be CD first.  Save changes and exit.  The computer will then reboot again.  THEN you put the cd in.
[09:49] <wd3> how do i mount my dvd player?
[09:49] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, OR
[09:49] <gary_> yo nrbelex u need samba help for ubuntu?
[09:49] <Madpilot> wd3, it should auto-mount when you put a disc in
[09:49] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, when you boot the computer, does it show an option for Boot device options?
[09:50] <Nrbelex> gary_, yes
[09:50] <shoo-shu> no
[09:50] <wd3> madpilot what's up? thanks but it's not.
[09:50] <interneti> http://pastebin.com/622825 is the elive configuration that gave me hardware accel as opposed to the ubuntu http://pastebin.com/622827
[09:50] <gary_> nrbelex breezy?
[09:50] <Nrbelex> gary_, yes
[09:50] <gary_> ok i got a good resource for that
[09:50] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, some systems have a bios that allows you to press something like F12 to access the boot priorty without accessing the Bios directly.
[09:50] <gary_> 1 second
[09:50] <shoo-shu> is the bios the setup menu when i turn on the comp?
[09:50] <stansell> Nrbelex, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07.html#sect-samba-server has instructions for smbpasswd
[09:50] <gary_> whats ur drama maybe i can help u straight of the bat i spent the last few days stuffing around with it
[09:50] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, k. then follow the steps I outlined before and see if you can get the system to boot off the operating system CD.
[09:51] <malv> hmmm, for some reason gnome will not show the splash screen and boot up
[09:51] <Snareguydave16> I've just installed wine and need to edit some config files for a windows program... how do i access the virtual C drive that wine creates?
[09:51] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, yes.
[09:51] <malv> i restarted into windows, came back, and now gnome is not loading =(
[09:51] <quitenormal> hi. I've just installed timidity, and it's set itself up so it boots up as a daemon automatically. I don't want it on automatically, how should I unset it?
[09:51] <shoo-shu> okay
[09:51] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, however, remember that if you do not fix the boot sector
[09:51] <malv> any way I can figure out whats up?
[09:51] <shoo-shu> will it say boot secrot?
[09:51] <shoo-shu> sector*
[09:51] <Nrbelex> gary_, Stansell - Thanks I'll check that out then go to sleep - Its about to hit 3 here
[09:51] <shoo-shu> or something else?
[09:51] <Sashi> hm
[09:51] <wd3> madpilot i went to xfstab mount manager and mounted it then but i remember in ubuntu gnome i went to terminal and mount (?) for automount on system bootup.
[09:52] <gary_> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[09:52] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, with a tool like partition magic, you may end up with a system that will not boot after trying to install from the operating system cd.
[09:52] <interneti> god... can someone please help... I really could use it rigjt now
[09:52] <Sashi> what package do i need if it says
[09:52] <Sashi> [obj/grfio.o]
[09:52] <grndslm> do i want to "force" a umount to my home directory in order to recover my files...or would that be a bad thing??
[09:52] <gary_> thats got nearly everything u need right there
[09:52] <toni__> How can I install debian package?
[09:52] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, I have not used the compaq system restore cd set to know if it overwrites the boot sector or not.
[09:52] <shoo-shu> no, i mean to get the computer to read off the cd
[09:52] <interneti> http://pastebin.com/622825 is the elive configuration that gave me hardware accel as opposed to the ubuntu http://pastebin.com/622827
[09:53] <heyjoe2> how do i install FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb
[09:53] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu,  I guess you will just have to try it and see if it works.  If after install, it fails to boot up into windows, you may still need to acquire a tool like partition commander or partition magic to fix the boot sector and then go through the recovery cd again.
[09:53] <Madpilot> !+frostwire
[09:53] <ubotu> frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/ note: the file /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh in the 4.10.9 release is in dos format, and should be converted to 'nix format using dos2unix (install the sysutils package if you do not have this command)
[09:53] <shoo-shu> k
[09:53] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, best of luck.
[09:53] <gary_> nrbelex http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Samba_Server
[09:53] <gary_> direct link ;P
[09:53] <stansell> Nrbelex, OK - good luck  !
[09:53] <shoo-shu> :( i need it
[09:53] <artimo> to install a deb file    dpkg -i <your>.deb
[09:53] <shoo-shu> thank you :)
[09:54] <shoo-shu> for ur help
[09:54] <sbartleylinux> np
[09:54] <toni__> tyhank you
[09:54] <grndslm> do i want to "force" a umount to my home directory in order to recover my files...or would that be a bad thing??
[09:54] <heyjoe2> madpilot: how do i convert to nix format? is it hard to do? can i get dos2unix from synaptic?
[09:54] <shoo-shu> im sorry i dont understand much lol
[09:54] <Sashi> wow
[09:54] <shoo-shu> im just lost
[09:54] <Sashi> theres such thing as
[09:54] <Sashi> 32 depth?
[09:54] <shoo-shu> okay, im going to go and try. byes
[09:54] <sbartleylinux> shoo-shu, not at all. come back if you get frustrated with windows and want to try again.:)
[09:54] <sbartleylinux> bye
[09:54] <interneti> sbartleylinux could you help
[09:54] <shoo-shu> lol
[09:54] <sbartleylinux> interneti, I can try. what is up?
[09:55] <interneti> http://pastebin.com/622825 is the elive configuration that gave me hardware accel as opposed to the ubuntu http://pastebin.com/622827
[09:55] <Madpilot> heyjoe2, yeah, looks like it's in the sysutils package, like it says in that blurb...
[09:55] <Snareguydave16> I have installed "wine" and it is working wonderfully.  How do I access the virtual drive that it creates... need to edit a config file
[09:55] <interneti> im not getting accelleration
[09:55] <Nrbelex> stansell, gary_, thanks again!
[09:55] <interneti> and its a pain
[09:55] <toni__> this says that i not have superuser privilege...what to do?
[09:55] <interneti> sudo
[09:55] <dj-fu> Snareguydave16, ~/.wine/
[09:55] <Snareguydave16> thank you
[09:56] <interneti> toni use sudo
[09:56] <Madpilot> toni__, preceed your command w/ sudo when you need privs
[09:56] <heyjoe2> madpilot: i cant find dos2unix in synaptic, could it be called something else?
[09:56] <toni__> thanko you verry muxh. :)
[09:56] <toni__> not it's working. :P
[09:56] <Madpilot> !tell heyjoe2 about frostwire
[09:57] <Madpilot> heyjoe2, look for the sysutils package, like it says in the frostwire blurb...
[09:57] <interneti> sbartley any ideas
[09:57] <heyjoe2> madpilot: how do i look for it
[09:57] <wd3> madpilot does it matter if my dvd mounting point is cdrom 1? shouldn't it say dvd0?
[09:57] <Madpilot> heyjoe2, just search for sysutils - that should work...
[09:58] <Madpilot> !info sysutils
[09:58] <ubotu> sysutils: (Miscellaneous small system utilities.), section utils, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[09:58] <sbartleylinux> interneti, sorry, but I have very little experience with video configs myself.
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> grndslm: is your home directory mounted on a separate partition?
[09:58] <stansell> I'm really confused - nautilus has options to configure an SMB share - but you've still got to mess with smbpasswd and smb.conf to actually get access to the share?
[09:58] <interneti> madpilot this is a long shot but could you help?
[09:58] <grndslm> fyrestrtr
[09:58] <Madpilot> wd3, no idea - it's been a while since I ran a DVD on this system, and it auto-mounted for me
[09:58] <stansell> !info gaim
[09:58] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[09:58] <interneti> http://pastebin.com/622825 is the elive configuration that gave me hardware accel as opposed to the ubuntu http://pastebin.com/622827
[09:58] <grndslm> fyrestrtr, yes it is
[09:58] <sbartleylinux> night all.
[09:59] <Snareguydave16> is there a way to turn on root priviledges permanently without having to do everything through the root terminal?
[09:59] <wd3> Madpilot, thanks
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> grndslm: you can re-mount it readonly -- unmounting it completely might cause problems.
[09:59] <FlannelKing> Snareguydave16: why would you want to do that?
[09:59] <interneti> wouldn't recommend it..
[09:59] <Madpilot> Snareguydave16, that would be a really bad idea...
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Snareguydave16: no, that's a very bad idea.
[09:59] <Snareguydave16> lol... i see.
[10:00] <interneti> any ideas madpilot
[10:00] <Snareguydave16> well, i am just trying to access the /.wine directory... it this possible through the stock file browser or do i have to do it through the root terminal
[10:00] <Madpilot> Snareguydave16, that's just a hidden folder - in Nautilus, just hit Ctrl+H
[10:00] <grndslm> fyrestrtr, i just did a lazy umount, and now i can't open gnome-terminal anymore...but i can still switch to a virtual terminal or whatever Ctrl+Alt+F6 is
[10:01] <stansell> the problem is .wine starts with a "."
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> Snareguydave16: cd /.wine && ls
[10:01] <malv> how would I roll back that libc update?
[10:01] <tamale> fyrestrtr:
[10:01] <grndslm> this undelete software seems kinda old, what are my chances of recovering 75% or more of my data??
[10:01] <tamale> I got the windows partition to boot
[10:01] <malv> I think it is preventing me from running any gnome apps
[10:01] <wd3> how do i mount my cdrw to automount at bootup?
[10:01] <tamale> the grub boot loader was COMPLETELY wrong
[10:01] <malv> could also be libcairo
[10:02] <malv> anytime I try to run anything based off of gtk, the windows fail to repaint
[10:02] <interneti> libc is ok as far as I know
[10:02] <malv> i dunno, but I cant run gtk anything
[10:02] <malv> i amu using kde at the moment
[10:02] <interneti> dude.. I don't know
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> tamale: that's why you should always do the grub bootloader thing manually.
[10:02] <Snareguydave16> Tried both commands to attempt to "show" wine folder in nautilus... still cannot see.
[10:03] <ReMink> Hi !
[10:03] <interneti> I've got my own problems, and no one will even reply to them
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Snareguydave16: open a terminal, type ls -la /.wine
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> interneti: I am looking at your configuration -- you have to be patient.
[10:03] <tamale> fyrestrtr:  so how can i save changes to the grub config?
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> tamale: its just a file, save it
[10:03] <interneti> Excellent!!!
[10:04] <ReMink> I search one commande for know : what package inclu what commande ...
[10:04] <tamale> save while i'm actually there, in grub?
[10:04] <grndslm> could somebody please provide me with a direct link to the undelete program that works with e2fsprogs?? i already have e2fsprogs installed.....but i cannot find the link anymore because firefox crashed and my home directory is unmounted so i can't open any more graphical programs
[10:04] <ReMink> So, i search the package which install : kpsewhich
[10:05] <grndslm> and once again, the program itself, not the undelete page
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> tamale: oh at the grub> prompt?
[10:05] <tamale> o
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> tamale: or are you talking about menu.lst
[10:05] <tamale> i'm in the grub program itself
[10:06] <tamale> where i can select an os
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> interneti: your refresh rates aren't the same, and you need to add the mode lines.
[10:06] <Ku-guy_> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs-1.38.tar.gz
[10:06] <tamale> ahh i see, i can press c for a command line
[10:06] <stansell> Snareguydave16, view -> show hidden files
[10:06] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, you're a hero
[10:06] <Ku-guy_> :-)
[10:06] <interneti> fyrestrtr what do I do?
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> tamale: at the grub prompt, you can just install grub, or check to see what the "grub" notation is for a partition. To make the changes permanent, edit menu.list in /boot/grub/
[10:06] <stansell> Snareguydave16, you're sure the .wine folder exists already?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> tamale: menu.lst
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> interneti: wait
[10:07] <Snareguydave16> stansell, yes... thank you... as always... it was sitting right in front of me!
[10:07] <patton> backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras but it works for dapper?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> need to switch terms, brb
[10:07] <Snareguydave16> thanks for the help guys
[10:08] <ReMink> So, i search the package which install : kpsewhich
[10:08] <malv> i have a feeling libcairo is the problem
[10:09] <Madpilot> patton, I think all the mirrormax repos shut down months ago
[10:09] <interneti> it probably is, because I installed libc and I haven't got n e problems with it
[10:09] <interneti> updated
[10:09] <tony_>
[10:10] <patton> Madpilot, I need extras repositories for Dapper
[10:10] <interneti> fyrestrtr welcome back
[10:10] <Madpilot> patton, I doubt there is such a thing - Dapper hasn't even been fully released yet
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> ah, the powerbook was getting annoying.
[10:10] <stansell> wd3, normally you wouldn't want to mount the CDRW indiscriminately
[10:11] <BenderNZ> hi2u, I've written a patch for php5, and I want to merge it into the sources from apt-get source, which I've done and compiled. However when I compile it apt wants to keep overwriting it via apt-get upgrade. How can I append my own version to the end of this? like say 5.0.5-bender
[10:11] <patton> ok
[10:11] <matthew_w> I'm having a ridiculous problem with Wine on Ubuntu, does anyone here know it exceptionally well, or know the channel to visit?
[10:11] <interneti> well fyrestrtr, whenever you are ready btw thanks
[10:12] <sfar-ubu> !ask
[10:12] <crimsun> !info php5
[10:12] <stansell> wd3, but if you have the need to, treat it like a hard-drive partition
[10:12] <ubotu> php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[10:12] <stansell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:12] <Madpilot> matthew_w, I think there's a #wine channel
[10:12] <crimsun> BenderNZ: use 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.2bender1
[10:12] <BenderNZ> crimsun: yes, but how do I append that version ?
[10:12] <stansell> !info libc6
[10:12] <Madpilot> matthew_w, #winehq
[10:12] <ubotu> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (breezy), Packaged size: 4772 kB, Installed size: 15436 kB
[10:12] <matthew_w> Well, anyway, I'm getting AST is missing in TZ_INFO when I start it up.  Basically Wine can't find my time zone, so it hangs.
[10:12] <crimsun> BenderNZ: edit debian/changelog
[10:12] <matthew_w> Thanks!
[10:12] <BenderNZ> alright I'll try that, thanks
[10:13] <grndslm> Ku-guy_...doh, i meant the undelete program...there were 2 software packages i was recommended on a website above:  1) e2fsprogs and 2) the undelete program (don't remember if it was called anything other than that)
[10:13] <wd3> stansell, ok i have a cdrw and dvdrw. when i put a cd music/data cd in the cdrw it doesn't automount like it use to before i switchted to xfce. my mounting point is /media/cdrom0 it's /dev/hdb. i just want to automount, i remember doing something like mount -(?)
[10:13] <grndslm> i need the undelete program, gotta link?
[10:13] <stjepan> hello
[10:14] <stansell> !info pmount
[10:14] <ubotu> pmount: (mount removable devices as normal user), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[10:14] <stjepan> how to tell ubuntu I installed something from source? With Gentoo I can just put the name of program in package.provided. How does dpkg/apt solve this problem?
[10:14] <behemoth> hello all, how do i access another linux machine on the same network?
[10:14] <rybuntu> !info fstab
[10:14] <thenuke> behemoth: with ssh
[10:14] <stjepan> !info kubuntu
[10:14] <grndslm> behemoth, ssh
[10:14] <stansell> wd3, pmount /dev/hdb
[10:15] <wd3> i'll try that
[10:15] <behemoth> thenuke, grndslm : sorry, i was referring to file access
[10:15] <grndslm> behemoth, sshfs
[10:15] <crimsun> stjepan: equivs is one method, but it's not necessarily the correct way.
[10:15] <grndslm> of scp to copy
[10:15] <grndslm> or scp, i mean
[10:15] <grndslm> behemoth, but sshfs is pretty nice
[10:16] <behemoth> grndslm: hmm, and i can move/delete/copy files between the machines?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> interneti: what resolution you want to run?
[10:16] <grndslm> behemoth, yessir
[10:16] <wd3> stansell, is this normal? walter@ubuntu:~$ pmount /dev/hdb
[10:16] <wd3> mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:16] <interneti> fyrestrtr 1280 x1024
[10:16] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: Are you trying to undelete files on an ext3 filesystem?  If so, you probably won't have much luck.  Strings and grep may help you recover some text files but the rest is probably history.  I know of no ext3 filesystem recovery tools.
[10:16] <stansell> wd3, yes I think so
[10:17] <geneo93> testdisk does some restoring
[10:17] <wd3> stansell, shouldn't i be able to write to it, especially since it's a rw?
[10:17] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, thanks for breakin' my heart....actually i was after the txt files the most...a few that i've been working on for the past few months or so....they're definitely worth spending an entire night to get if necessary
[10:17] <stansell> wd3, for writing, you'd need it unmounted, and use a burning tool
[10:17] <lampshade> Anyone use Ubuntu on a laptop and notice a significant drop in battery output?  I think mine is due to the fan being overused and never turned off by Ubuntu, but I can't figure out more on google or the forums.  Looking for help--I'm so frustrated with this shit
[10:17] <behemoth> grndslm: sweet. does sshfs only have a CLI or a GUI as well?
[10:18] <gary_> Does anyone know where i can find information about creating templates?
[10:18] <BenderNZ> nope, infact my battery lasts longer in ubuntu than windows
[10:18] <wd3> stansell, oh to read i need to mount it and to write to it i need to unmount then burn?
[10:18] <BenderNZ> lampshade: have you got powernowd running?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> interneti: replace your monitor section with this http://pastebin.com/622849 -- save the file, pray to whomever it is you pray to, rub any voodoo dolls, cross your fingers, click your heels three times, and then restart X and hope your monitor doesn't blow up.
[10:18] <stansell> wd3, nautilus includes a burning tool with Go -> CD creator
[10:18] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: Then if you can identify the text files with certain letter patterns, etc., then you will probably be able to recover some of them.
[10:18] <lillpelle> Are there any deb packages of Mail Notification that has the patch so that it works with gmail accounts?
[10:19] <wd3> stansell, ok next ?, i have a dvdrw, same thing? pmount?
[10:19] <gary_> if ur going to use the nautilus burner dont forget to enable burnproof
[10:19] <lampshade> BenderNZ, I would think so, it is in my init.d but it doesn't take an option of status, so I don't know how I would know for sure if it was running
[10:19] <Madpilot> lillpelle, there's a gmail-notifier pack
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> lillpelle: why don't you just use the pop access that gmail provides? it will work with any notifier.
[10:19] <Mischevious> lillpelle, you could use gmail-notifier
[10:19] <chmod775> does ubuntu store username and passwords in plain text?
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> chmod775: no.
[10:19] <lillpelle> fyrestrtr: that sounds good.
[10:19] <BenderNZ> lampshade: add the cpu scaling monitor to your panel on gnome (right click the panel and add the object)
[10:19] <robinl1> how to restart the SSH deamon?
[10:19] <Madpilot> chmod775, nope
[10:19] <schmity> hey fyrestrtr i wanna talk.
[10:19] <grndslm> behemoth, CLI is all i know of to initiate the remote drive mounting...you can mount it in fstab and that'll be that...or you can mount it each time you'd like to access the other computer's harddrive (i put it in the fstab)...but after that, you can open it through your graphical file browser like it was on your own computer
[10:19] <stansell> wd3, sorry I'm not completely familiar with a CDRW setup
[10:19] <BenderNZ> lampshade: it should be running at 50% cpu usually unless you're doing lots
[10:19] <gary_> that would be highly insecure
[10:19] <lillpelle> maddler, Mischevious: I want to use the same mail check program for all mail accounts...
[10:19] <chmod775> there is this guy in apache channel who is so skeptical about ubuntu
[10:19] <wd3> stansell, what did the pmount do?
[10:19] <Mischevious> lillpelle, okay :-D
[10:20] <chmod775> I am almost breaking my head to configure apache
[10:20] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, how do i go about searching for a text file that doesn't exist though....i guess we're throwing out the e2fsprogs altogether then??
[10:20] <chmod775> Hey! I just uninstall apache but still it appears when I do a dpkg -l | grep apache
[10:20] <chmod775> ?
[10:20] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: Use strings and grep.
[10:20] <gary_> when i right click in gnome and go to templates it says its EMPTY i wanna fill it where can i find information for this
[10:20] <stansell> wd3, pmount mounts the device as /media/xxx where xxx should correspond to the device type
[10:20] <chmod775> how do I remove it completely
[10:20] <thenuke> grndslm: there is no sshfs package in ubuntus repos :(
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> chmod775: how did you uninstall it?
[10:21] <Frogzoo> grndslm: take your pick - e2undel recover gtkrecover - they're all in the repos
[10:21] <lampshade> BenderNZ, right now it is at 800mhz, so the lowest step for my P-M  but the fan is going like almost full blast it sounds like.  Actually what it feels like is that once the fan has to rev up, it never revs back  down.  That's what it feels like.  I'm monitoring a temp of 30 degrees too, though I don't know if that's the cpu temp or what/
[10:21] <chmod775> ashish@ash:/var$ sudo apt-get remove apache apache-common apache2-common  apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils libapache2-mod-auth-mysql libapache2-mod-php5
[10:21] <grndslm> thenuke...might be under fuse or something of the sort
[10:21] <stansell> from the terminal, pumount /dev/hdb (or /media/xxx) to unmount it
[10:21] <behemoth> grndslm: yea, have done mounting through fstab in the past. where do i get sshfs? aptitude only knows of ssh. does sshfs automatically get installed with ssh?
[10:21] <robinl1> how to restart the SSH deamon?
[10:21] <grndslm> thenuck, google it
[10:21] <chmod775> fyrestrtr, ?
[10:21] <lampshade> robinl1, /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:21] <crimsun> robinl1: presuming openssh-server is installed, sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[10:21] <BenderNZ> lampshade: I'm using a turion, and it drops back to 800mhz which increases battery life, but the fan should slow down based on the heat
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> robinl1: try sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[10:21] <grndslm> behemoth, try fuse...but don't take my word for it...google is your friend
[10:22] <behemoth> grndslm: thanks for the help
[10:22] <lampshade> BenderNZ, yeah, the fan seems really loud and doesn't seem to be near the lowest level or off, which I think it can do too.
[10:22] <chmod775> see this " http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/161
[10:22] <grndslm> behemoth, no problem
[10:22] <robinl1> thanks
[10:22] <robinl1> :P
[10:22] <thenuke> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
[10:22] <geneo93> grndslm:  i've forced a crash and sometimes recovered files
[10:22] <chmod775> http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/161
[10:22] <wd3> stansell, ok good, my cdrom is /dev/hdb mounting access /media/cdrom0 but my dvd show /dev/hdb with cdrom1, is it safe for the dvd to be name cdrom1? shouldn't be dvd0 or something?
[10:22] <chmod775> stores in clear text http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/161
[10:22] <Frogzoo> behemoth: samba (or nfs)
[10:23] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: ...as in, "strings /dev/hdxx | grep <some_string>" where hdxx is the device which contains the data.  You won't be looking for filenames, only character patterns...
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> chmod775: stop pasting of something you know nothing about.
[10:23] <chmod775> I was just cross checking dude
[10:23] <grndslm> Frogzoo, do you know which would be best...i don't think i'll be able to use gtkrecover
[10:23] <crimsun> chmod775: that issue has already been resolved
[10:23] <introvert> something you know nothing about.
[10:23] <introvert> 00:23 -!- toni__<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:23] <chmod775> ok fine aah ubuntu rocks
[10:23] <BenderNZ> lampshade: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97073&highlight=fan+speed+powernow and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97992&highlight=fan+speed+powernow
[10:23] <introvert> 00:23 < chmod775> I was just cross checking dude
[10:23] <toni__> hoe can i install a debian package vith superuse shits.
[10:23] <introvert> 00:23 < grndslm> Frogzoo, do you know which would be best...i don't think i'll be able to use gtkrecover
[10:23] <Frogzoo> grndslm: just a sec - I'll take a look at the copyrights
[10:23] <behemoth> Frogzoo: ah, i forgot about nfs ;)
[10:23] <grndslm> Ku-guy_... so i'm greping a pattern that was inside the file?
[10:23] <interneti> fyrestarter ths will give me accelleration?
[10:23] <artimo> in hours - unlike a redmond company
[10:23] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: It's a painstaking process and can take a long time but if your files are that important, it may be wirth your while.
[10:23] <chmod775> ok folks did I uninstall apache the right way
[10:23] <chmod775> ?
[10:24] <stansell> wd3, I'm not sure - you can pmount /dev/hdb dvd if you want
[10:24] <newbus> wow...  is there any other newbie channel, i am a little out of depth here
[10:24] <stansell> wd3, both devices aren't really /dev/hdb are they?
[10:24] <grndslm> geneo93...how do you force a crash?
[10:24] <BenderNZ> newbus: ask on the forums?
[10:24] <wd3> stansell, sorry dvd is hdd
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> interneti: either that, or blow up your monitor. try it :)
[10:25] <introvert> newbus: Out of depth?   They both seem very unhelpful to me since we already established that my cpu is at the lowest level and that I have powernowd
[10:25] <grndslm> geneo93, and then they're just magically back where you left 'em?
[10:25] <newbus> its a very simple silly query can you help, introvert
[10:25] <BenderNZ> lampshade: they seem to say you can check under proc to see if the cpu fan speed is stepping
[10:25] <introvert> newbus: I can try, go for it.
[10:25] <geneo93> grndslm:  not always
[10:25] <BenderNZ> lampshade: check the last posts in each one
[10:26] <newbus> i mean i am very new to computers leave alone linux... basically a writer by profession jus doing this for fun and coz i like the stability of libnux
[10:26] <geneo93> grndslm  50/50 or so
[10:26] <BenderNZ> lampshade: I'm not sure how to specifically control the speeds, on my laptop the bios does that, but I know on thinkpads the os can set it, so perhaps your laptop needs to handle that through software
[10:26] <carl> I am trying to use Mp3s on ubuntu, but none of the default players work with Mp3s, does anybody know of any mp3 software for linux?
[10:26] <introvert> newbus: Go for it, there is no shame in any question
[10:26] <newbus> linux sorry
[10:26] <gary_> linux is noobie easy to install now
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> lampshade: you might need the cpufreaqd or something like that. Controls speed settings.
[10:27] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, so which should i try first mounting a greping, or keeping home partition unmounted  and using 'recover', or the not so popular rebooting
[10:27] <wd3> stansell, /dev/hdd dvd..........what does the dvd (at the end) do just name it on my desktop?
[10:27] <BenderNZ> fyrestrtr: that's replaced by powernowd I believe
[10:27] <mustard5> gary, its just configuring it after installing it that is the hard part ;) hehe
[10:27] <introvert> carl: You must get a engine and a ALSA (Or whatever sound output you use) plugin for it
[10:27] <introvert> carl: I suggest getting gstreamer and gstreamer-plugins
[10:27] <carl> ok, thanks introvert
[10:27] <rybuntu> you can mount ntfs drives in vmware and have full read write plus windows samba setup
[10:27] <gary_> yeah but the linux community is so tight knit its not hard to find help
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> BenderNZ: oh okay.
[10:28] <stansell> wd3, yes, it's just a label for the /media mountpoint - use it if you don't like the automatic label naming
[10:28] <gary_> i even installed it on my girlfriends computer she loves it
[10:28] <gary_> of course i fix all her problems
[10:28] <newbus> well, i am having sever trouble with my internet connection... and i want to confirm that the problem isnt on my end, specifically with my lan card.... so that i can then change my provider... basically the connection is extremely unstable and fluctuates all the time, dowload speeds vary between 1 and 10 kbps sometimes... what could be the problem
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> I bet you do ;)
[10:28] <wd3> stansell,  thanks
[10:28] <introvert> newbus: That's extremely bland, does this happen on Windows aswell?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> newbus: sounds like a problem with your provider or your cabling.
[10:29] <chmod775> hey folks I installed apache and there are still files of apache and how do I remove that?
[10:29] <Frogzoo> grndslm: it doesn't look promising for ext3 recover, I'm afraid: http://pastebin.com/622859 (me considers reverting to ext2...)
[10:29] <newbus> hehe yeah thats a seriously boring problem
[10:29] <gary_> drapper + ndsiwrapper seems broken
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> newbus: change providers.
[10:29] <newbus> want to know if ubuntu has any thing in it that lets me test my hardware
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> gary_: wouldn't be surprised as its still beta software.
[10:29] <rybuntu> chmod775: terminal /var/www
[10:29] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, nevermind, i guess i don't need to mount the directory if you're accessing it through /dev/hd??
[10:29] <rybuntu> rm -rf apache*
[10:29] <Madpilot> gary_, Dapper is the development version...
[10:29] <introvert> Frogzoo: ext2 is almost exactly ext3, besides journeling support... The only thing you'd really want to have ext2 on is your boot block
[10:30] <introvert> newbus: Try the live CD
[10:30] <chmod775> rybuntu, what does sudo apt-get remove --purge file
[10:30] <chmod775> do
[10:30] <chmod775> ?
[10:30] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: Is the partition that contains your wanted files, mounted?  If so, unmount it asap!
[10:30] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, i unmounted it
[10:30] <grndslm> already
[10:30] <stella> hello
[10:30] <wd3> stansell,  shouldn't they say auto instead? /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:30] <wd3> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> chmod775: read the manual page of apt-get
[10:30] <newbus> it checks the hardware?
[10:30] <ROBOd> hello
[10:30] <introvert> newbus: Ubuntu is probably the ultimate beginner distro :), it's VERY easy.. If you want to test hardware use the live cd
[10:30] <ROBOd> i want to disable gdm and to use startx
[10:30] <introvert> newbus: If you can run the live cd, you can run Ubuntu :)
[10:30] <interneti> fyrestrtr nothing happened...
[10:30] <rybuntu> chmod775: that would do absolutely nothing as your not stating a package
[10:30] <grndslm> introvert, so the ext2 tools SHOULD work then on an ext3 filesystem???
[10:30] <newbus> ok will do
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> wd3: you need a comma after iso9660
[10:30] <mustard5> newbus, have you looked into whether you need to disable ipv6
[10:31] <chmod775> ok
[10:31] <newbus> what is that do tell
[10:31] <introvert> grndslm: I seriously doubt it
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> interneti: what do you mean?
[10:31] <rybuntu> chmod775: to remove pack use dpkg -l thepackage*
[10:31] <ROBOd> how do i change the default language and desktop environment that's used by startx?
[10:31] <artimo> << (forced to remove pepsi from the "drink holder" to insert CD/
[10:31] <wd3> fyrestrtr, what will the comma do?
[10:31] <interneti> the acceleration was a flop
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> mustard5: ipv6 has nothing to do with this, unfortunately.
[10:31] <rybuntu> chmod775: then dpkg -P thepackage
[10:31] <Mischevious> wow ftp protocol is from the 70's
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> wd3: make it work, for one.
[10:31] <Mischevious> that's interesting
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> interneti: how are you testing it?
[10:31] <matthew_w> Absolutely no one is responding in that wine channel X_X
[10:31] <wd3> fyrestrtr, what about mounting on bootup?
[10:31] <mustard5> newbus, fyrestrtr seems to feel its irrelevant..so might be a misdirection on my part
[10:32] <newbus> k
[10:32] <Frogzoo> introvert: read the pastebin ^^^ - you can recover ext2 with 'recover', but not ext3...
[10:32] <chmod775> does'nt apt-get remove apache remove the package
[10:32] <grndslm> ahh...well the general consesus is that the only way to recover anything is to use strings and grep on the unmounted drive???
[10:32] <chmod775> ?
[10:32] <grndslm> i will commence with the grepping
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> wd3: options are comma separated, you have a syntax error. Either way, it won't mount anything on boot unless you have something in there (ie, a cd in the drive)
[10:32] <introvert> Frogzoo: Then find an ext3 recovering tool.
[10:32] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: yup!
[10:32] <Mischevious> wow
[10:32] <Mischevious> and Vi is from the 70's also
[10:32] <mustard5> newbus, I'm not sure what running the live CD is going to do for you though
[10:32] <grndslm> i'm definitely going to be looking for another fs for my home directory...is reiser any better for recovery?
[10:32] <matthew_w> Is there anyway to fix a Time Zone error in TZ_INFO in Wine that crashes near every program I run?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> mustard5: the ipv6 address that's in there by default is just the ipv6 version of <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:32] <stansell> wd3, the udf,...noauto stuff is put in by pmount for you
[10:32] <ROBOd> guys ... how to change the default language and desktop environment that's used by startx?
[10:33] <introvert> mustard5: Running the livecd would be a good indicator to whether his hardware is supported or not, it uses the same kernel, doesn't it?
[10:33] <wd3> fyrestrtr, gedit wont edit fstab, how do i?
[10:33] <ROBOd> frank23: you around? :)
[10:33] <wd3> stansell, thanks edit won't edit fstab how do i?
[10:33] <introvert> ROBOd: Do you want it to be user specific?
[10:33] <introvert> ROBOd: Or for all users
[10:33] <mustard5> introvert, I was under the impression ubuntu was installed already from the question asked
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> wd3: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[10:33] <ROBOd> introvert: the same as I do it in gdm :)
[10:33] <wd3> fyrestrtr, thanks
[10:34] <ROBOd> introvert: i believe that's user specific
[10:34] <Eleaf> How can I set pcm to be my capture device?
[10:34] <grndslm> introvert, lemme make this straight...you are implying that ext3 files cannot be recovered, correct?
[10:34] <Eleaf> I need icecast to record all playback
[10:34] <introvert> grndslm: I'm implying that it can't be recovered with tools made to recover ext2
[10:34] <introvert> ROBOd: Well, I think ubuntu may have a global configuration, let me take a look
[10:34] <Eleaf> pcm....  I just see no way of making this the source device (looked in alsamixer etc.)
[10:35] <stansell> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:35] <grndslm> introvert, thanks...i'll start greppin' now, hope i'm lucky
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> introvert: /etc/environment ;)
[10:35] <rybuntu> what fs is vista using?
[10:35] <introvert> fyrestrtr: I was thinking of xinitrc
[10:35] <basvg> hi all, I just hooked up a printer to one of my machines and I would like to be able to print to it from my other machine. Can anyone help me out?
[10:35] <introvert> rybuntu: NTFS
[10:35] <rybuntu> ntfs sux
[10:35] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: You'll probably want to redirect the output to another file so that once you've found the data, you'll have an actual file to work with.
[10:35] <introvert> Lol
[10:35] <rybuntu> slow as hell
[10:35] <interneti> fyrestrtr what can I do
[10:35] <interneti> ?
[10:36] <introvert> My favorite FS is probably EXT3 or UFS2
[10:36] <newbus> well, thanks then, later
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> interneti: ask someone that uses the same chipset, or google. How are you testing that acceleration is not working?
[10:36] <rybuntu> reiser is the fastest
[10:36] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, so i can't recover a whole file i was working on at a time can i, just lines??
[10:36] <tamale> fyrestrtr:  LOL... all this work...   I even got the nvidia drivers and x lookin pretty decent...  BUT there's no automatix support for the 64bit kernel!?!??!?  Oh man... this is just funny.
[10:36] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: Essentially, yes.
[10:37] <introvert> tamale: Heh
[10:37] <FlannelKing> tamale: you don't want to use automatix anyway.
[10:37] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, wow...i want to cry
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> tamale: =) welcome to Linux
[10:37] <rybuntu> automatix = too much crap u dont need
[10:37] <interneti> fyrestrtrwell through chromium ,,, crude... but whatever works
[10:37] <tamale> i only use it for a few things
[10:37] <tamale> it's awesome for firefox 1.5
[10:37] <introvert> tamale: What do you need?
[10:37] <introvert> Lol
[10:37] <introvert> tamale: There are alot of things on wiki for manually doing it :)
[10:37] <tamale> i know!!!
[10:38] <rybuntu> firefox on 64 sux,
[10:38] <tamale> but it's one click in automatix
[10:38] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: This whole conversation implies that you didn't make any system backups as of recent.  Too bad! :-)
[10:38] <tamale> yah?
[10:38] <tamale> you guys thing i should just do 32 bit?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> interneti: type this at a prompt : glxinfo | grep direct
[10:38] <introvert> No
[10:38] <rybuntu> you can install two versions though a 32bit
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> what do you get?
[10:38] <rybuntu> tamale i would i have two 64bit syss at my house and they bouth run 32
[10:38] <interneti> direct rendering: No
[10:38] <interneti> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:38] <pn> How do i see a windows disk on my ubuntu system
[10:38] <stansell> Basvg, what have you tried so far?
[10:38] <rybuntu> tamale: its just more convienient
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs
[10:39] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:39] <introvert> Running 32-bit on 64-bit hardware is stupid IMO
[10:39] <tamale> just seems liks such a waste
[10:39] <introvert> The slackers way out
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> pn ^ read that
[10:39] <basvg> stansell: I tried to let gnome search for printers but it didn't get detected. I also tried to add one manually by feeding it the ip of the machine that has the printer
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> tamale: what is automatix?
[10:39] <interneti> tamale at least you didn't compile fx from source
[10:39] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, I wish lessons were learned with easier methods
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> basvg: you need to share it first.
[10:39] <rybuntu> introvert: so run a 64bit os with a buch of 32bit software is any better?
[10:39] <interneti> automatix is bad
[10:39] <Madpilot> fyrestrtr, automatix is a bad (but popular) idea
[10:40] <stansell> basvg, are they both breezy machines?
[10:40] <interneti> at least from what I remember
[10:40] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: Me too!
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> yeah, but wth is it?
[10:40] <tamale> fyrestrtrt:  It's a program that instals lots of popular software
[10:40] <basvg> stansell: yep, they are
[10:40] <introvert> rybuntu: I have not one piece of 32-bit software on my system
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> oh that -- yeah, bad.
[10:40] <patrick52222> is there a tv out function to view movies and desktop on a tv
[10:40] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: I've had my fair share of, "hard lessons learned!"
[10:40] <rybuntu> introvert: i guess you never plan on using any java then eh?
[10:40] <tamale> fyrestrt:  well, lemme rephrase that.   it's a tool that LETS you install lots of popular software
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> anything with 'popular .. install .. software .. auto' in it is bad -- might as well use Windows with unpatched IE.
[10:40] <Madpilot> fyrestrtr, it's not a bad idea, but automatix does a bunch of hacky things
[10:40] <introvert> rybuntu: Java comes in 64-bit flavor
[10:40] <basvg> n cupsd-browsing.conf I set browsing to 'on' by the way
[10:41] <grndslm> well then, it's on to rebooting and then quite possibly committing suicide...j/k, but DAMIQWER;YTLIJHAS;G;SHGQEHR;YTIH/!TO HELL!
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> basvg: restart cups
[10:41] <interneti> fyrestrtr easy ubuntu is replacement
[10:41] <rybuntu> introvert: maybe ill go back to x64 c
[10:41] <tamale> quite frankly, it's the direction ubuntu needs to go though
[10:41] <basvg> fyrestrtr: eh, did that too of course ;)
[10:41] <hippie23> is there a way to set the brightness on a iMac g3 in breezy?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> interneti: apt-get > *
[10:41] <tamale> with more tools like automatix, i'd be able to get more friends of mine into linux
[10:41] <rybuntu> introvert: no flash though
[10:41] <introvert> rybuntu: there are open-source flash replacements, they don't run the latest version though, soon they will hopefully
[10:41] <interneti> fyrestrtr what do you make of it?
[10:42] <tamale> for everyone who wants manual control, there's always gentoo  :)
[10:42] <grndslm> aight guys, i'm out...thanks for everyone with the ext3 recovery help, or lack thereof....one more thing...any recommended filesystems for data recovery???  reiser, maybe???
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> interneti: I dunno, must see your x logs
[10:42] <patrick52222> is there a tv out function to view movies and desktop on a tv
[10:42] <interneti> yeah if your  a sadist tamale lol
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> interneti: is the same version of x running on both distros?
[10:42] <stansell> basvg, on the machine with the printer: netstat -tuna |grep 631
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: this depends on your video card. What kind is it?
[10:42] <interneti> interneti: is the same version of x running on both distros? probably not
[10:42] <patrick52222> fx5200 nvidia
[10:42] <stansell> basvg, do you get something besides <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:43] <rybuntu> introvert: how much faster is 64?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> interneti: hey, don't dog Gentoo. I love that distro. Have been using it for a looong time.
[10:43] <interneti> the elive is an etch derivative
[10:43] <basvg> stansell: yep, there's a 0.0.0:* LISTEN and one upd entry for <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:43] <interneti> fyrestrtr  it was a joke
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: you need to install the binary drivers and enable TV out as per the docs.
[10:43] <introvert> rybuntu: That question is pretty irrelevant
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> !tell patrick52222 about nvidia
[10:43] <patrick52222> iv installed the drivers but how do i enable the tvout
[10:43] <rybuntu> introvert: im not trying to be obtuse i just want a reason to destroy my setup for 64
[10:44] <interneti> fyrestrtr you mentioned xlogs...
[10:44] <stansell> basvg, ok - that's in the right-hand column, right?
[10:44] <introvert> rybuntu: because it's proper to use an os that's made for your cpu architecture, not another.. one that takes FULL advantage of it
[10:44] <introvert> rybuntu: There are 32-bit emulation libraries for programs with no 64-bit ports
[10:44] <grndslm> any recommended filesystems in terms of data recovery??  ext3 is pretty shameful in this area, depending on your point of view, i guess
[10:44] <stansell> basvg, what about the left-had column with the :631 ?