[12:40] <Agent_bob> kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces      # <-- putting that as first char on a line makes it a comment.   or comments it out.
[12:41] <emons> alright
[12:43] <Agent_bob> you can do an    sudo /etc/init.d/network* restart      after you do that.
[12:43] <emons> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34721/ is that right?
[12:43] <Agent_bob> looking
[12:44] <Agent_bob> no.
[12:44] <Agent_bob> there is no eth section   and the   # would be on the line it is commenting out
[12:44] <Agent_bob> #this is a comment
[12:44] <Agent_bob> this is not
[12:44] <Agent_bob> #this is a comment
[12:44] <Agent_bob> this is not
[12:44] <emons> ok
[12:45] <judgen> how annoying my screen wont go higher than 640x480. Any tips. And yes the nvidia driver is properly installed. Im guessing it has something to do with scanmodes
[12:45] <Agent_bob> so that's not the issue.   we'll move on.
[12:45] <emons> so underneath those 4 lines i type # (followed by the comment)
[12:45] <emons> but i dont need to do this now cuz u just said thatz not our prob alright got it
[12:45] <Agent_bob> emons no if you pasted the entire file  don't save it, just exit
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:46] <Agent_bob> !res
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: dude that script is the shizzniz
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: ty man :D:D
[12:46] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip is that good or bad ?
[12:46] <Agent_bob> :)))
[12:47] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip have a sec ?
[12:47] <emons> no no Agent_bob what i pasted is the file modified on pastebin i didnt wrote all that stuff in the real file eheheh
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: sure
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: yeah its sweet
[12:47] <Agent_bob> emons k.  hold a sec.
[12:47] <emons> yep
[12:47] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip emons has high speed inet working very slowly.   any help with that.  i'm weak on networking skills
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> emons: ok do you have a router etc?
[12:48] <emons> yes
[12:49] <emons> ivegot a wireless router
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> emons: ok and o you have other pcs running through it?
[12:49] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip iftop yelds this and he has wireless only setup.    <emons> Unable to get IP address for interface: eth0
 ioctl(SIOCGIFADDR): Cannot assign requested address
[12:49] <Agent_bob> not sure how pertenant that might be.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: ok cool, just want some basic stuff atm :D
[12:50] <emons> usually 2 pcs and 2 macs but not in these days since all the other machines are turned off so im the only one who's using this connection
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> emons: try the other PCs, do they run slow too?
[12:51] <emons> one sec
[12:51] <emons> ill tell u in one sec
[12:53] <emons> nope they go pretty well and also i phoned my provider to ask if there was any issue w/my connection they said no plus a runned a speedometer test on one of those websites and the speed is good
[12:53] <emons> (did that yestarday)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> emons: ok, is it an adsl router or do you have cable with a seperate modem?
[12:54] <emons> cable with separate modem i guess
[12:54] <emons> cuz theres the router connected to a modem that is connected to a "box" on the wall :D sorry
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> emons: turn of it all for a good while
[12:54] <emons> i did
[12:54] <emons> i tried yesterday
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> bah
[12:54] <emons> it was off the all night
[12:54] <emons> and today when i turned it on again... nothing!
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> ok so we've tried all the easy stuff
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> ok what wifi card do you have?
[12:55] <emons> where do i see that?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> emons: lspci
[12:56] <Agent_bob> or     lshw -C network
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: true :)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: i just read the screen
[12:58]  * ActionParsnip plays a drumroll
[12:58] <emons> itz tanking a while to paste it...
[12:59] <emons> *taking
[12:59] <emons> i correct my self: itz taking ages to paste it...
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> !pastebinit | emons
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> !info pastebinit
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> get that
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> everyone should have it
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> :D
[13:00]  * Agent_bob may have writen it...
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> hehe dude its sweet
[13:01] <Agent_bob> anyway i was using a script for that before that came out.  haven't seen exactly what that one is.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> its in repos, heard about it a bit ago, never looked back
[13:02] <Agent_bob> prolly nothing like my script.  pasting file /usr/local/bin/pastebin
[13:02] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d15dedd93
[13:02] <emons> hey it doesnt move at all can i paste it to you in pm?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> emons: sure
[13:09] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip ah  "Stephane Graber"  rewrote it in python     nice   (if you like python that is)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: it works, im happy :D
[13:13] <Agent_bob> i have one box i removed all python and perl from    hehhe it's different.
[13:13] <Agent_bob> so did emons fall off the planet ?
[13:13] <emons> im about to :D
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> his wireless is weird
[13:15] <ActionParsnip>  serial: 00:1b:fc:02:f6:84
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=sky2 driverversion=1.20 firmware=N/A latency=0 module=sky2 multicast=yes
[13:18] <Agent_bob> emons /msg me the output of   lshw -C network     please.
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: apparently he installed and it connected to his AP
[13:21] <Agent_bob>  wireless=IEEE 802.11g
[13:23] <emons> sorry guys i really have to go, be back in an hour if u'll be here, which i really hope :D, nyway thank u for ur help
[13:23] <Agent_bob> mac:00:1b:fc:02:f6:84     \n configuration: broadcast=yes ip=<IP_ADDRESS> multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11g   <<<---- ActionParsnip that's his wlan   the other is unused eth0  with mac: 00:1a:4d:67:b0:25
[13:23] <emons> c u later
[13:24] <Agent_bob> and yes the eth card gives very strange output.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: i know but none of it said the make and model. Im getting him to rename his /etc/network/interfaces file and rebooting. Should make a fresh config file as he doesnt have wep / wpa
[13:25] <Agent_bob> yeah and i also wondered about having him rum knetwork manager  just to see if it could sort that...
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: i always remove that, im fine with /etc/network/interfaces
[13:33] <Agent_bob> yeah his only had lo in it.
[13:33] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3f81c71c
[13:33] <Agent_bob> err no wrong one.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> thought so
[13:33] <Agent_bob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34721/
[13:34] <Agent_bob> well that other is his lshw -C network
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> his lshw looks weird
[13:35] <Agent_bob> yeah  but not very.   i'm wondering if the eth is a dual network card   if maybe it does both wired and wireless ?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> he said in windows the wired was disabled
[13:37] <Agent_bob> but does that mean he disabled it in windows or he couldn't get it to work in windows or...
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> he never said
[13:38] <Agent_bob> well thanks for giving that a shot,    he said he had been working on it for three days now.   so i kinda wanted to help if we could...     (me knows slow connection)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> np man, alwya here to help
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> i cant code so good so i help the easy stuff to get folks through the door
[13:39] <Agent_bob> i have to make last rounds then i'm off.   shalom.
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> its my contribution to *buntu
[13:39] <Agent_bob> mine too.   ;/
[13:39] <penarts> hola a todos! mi problema es el siguiente: instalé emesene en kde, con sus respectivos repositorios python-gnome-extras, y no veo los botones del programa
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> !es | penarts
[13:44] <mrsimon> Hi, should I do what 'power top' tells me or does Kubuntu sort laptop power saving out on it's own?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> mrsimon: as long as you have acpi installed, kubuntu will sort it
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> what does power top tell you?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !laptop
[13:46] <mrsimon> ActionParsnip: thanks, it tells me a whole load of things, vmdirty write back, hal pooling etc the useual stuff
[13:46] <mrsimon> ubottu: thanks
[13:46] <mrsimon> haha
[13:48] <mic> hoal
[13:48] <mic> hola
[13:48] <Pici> !es
[13:57] <kushou> hi guys
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> hi kushou
[14:02] <mint2> hi there
[14:03] <mint2> i am trynig to compile a program : ./configure but it says command not found bash
[14:03] <mint2> any help ?
[14:03] <arroz> ALquem sabe roda Dungeon Siege 2 no KUbuntu?
[14:04] <Pici> !br | arroz
[14:05] <arroz> lol
[14:09] <kushou> Pici: you're a bot ?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> kushou: ubottu is the bot
[14:09] <Pici> kushou: I dont think so?
[14:09] <kushou> ok but i think remember you tell to the bot to write some sentence
[14:10] <kushou> like " arroz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado."
[14:10] <Pici> kushou: I just remember the triggers well.
[14:10] <ubuntu> hallo
[14:10] <ubuntu> soryy test
[14:12] <ubuntu> if anyone can see my text pls sayh
[14:12] <ubuntu> something
[14:12] <kushou> I see you
[14:13] <ubuntu> ty ty
[14:13] <ubuntu> kushou
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> wassup ubuntu
[14:14] <condez> kushou, i belive "Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado." it's better
[14:16] <kushou> condez: i'm french, i know nothin of portugues and it's a quote
[14:16] <kushou> *nothing
[14:17] <condez> ok. I'm portuguese that's why i replyed to what i belive it's a better phrase
[14:17] <mint2> any help ?
[14:17] <condez>  (Y)
[14:18] <ubuntu> ty so much all
[14:18] <kushou> ubottu is a bot, i don't know how to correct this
[14:19] <ubuntu> i just finished installing my modem on my new kubutun os
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> !modem | ubuntu
[14:19] <kushou> ubottu: it's just what i say
[14:19] <condez> no worries. Portuguese/Brazillian will understand anyway
[14:23] <honey> hi
[14:37] <tanner> im having trouble mounting a couple of hard drives that i havent been having trouble with before
[14:42] <khamael> how do I setup a wireless connection at login in kde4?
[14:46] <tanner> nevermind i fixed it
[14:52] <eagles0513875> morning
[14:59] <khamael> why doesn`t widgets installed in kde4 appear in the list? I am using the download from internet option
[15:04] <ahox> khamael: most widgets must be compiled first
[15:05] <ahox> khamael: only scripted ones work when using GHNS
[15:05] <khamael> ahox: how do I compile them, then?
[15:05] <khamael> they are reported as installed
[15:06] <ahox> khamael: Download them manually, read the README, most likely run ./configure && make && sudo make install and then you can use them
[15:06] <ahox> the download from internet does not work for these
[15:07] <khamael> somewhere in the future,then?
[15:08] <khamael> where can I download them?
[15:09] <ahox> khamael: There should be a little ? next to the source in the download from internet option
[15:10] <ahox> so far its only www.kde-look.org
[15:10] <ahox> btw, i am kind of not at irc right now, so just add my name next time you have a question
[15:15] <khamael> ahox: where do the files end up when I hit the install button
[15:15] <khamael> ?
[15:16] <ahox> I really don't know, thats why I said that you should download them manually
[15:18] <khamael> ahox: I understand. but one of the widgets suggested to use the gui install, and then add it manually from there
[15:19] <ahox> can you send me the link.
[15:19] <ahox> I already searched for them too, to no avail
[15:21] <ahox> i would have thought they get into ~/.kde4/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids
[15:47] <eloquence> does anybody here use sopcast to watch p2p tv?
[16:09] <MoeLoot> Hello Room!
[16:10] <MoeLoot> Have have recently wiped this box which once ran XP (which crapped out).  I have just installed ubuntu, and would like to recover some files from a windows backup.  Could someone help me or point me to a good faq or doc?
[16:16] <antinerd> hi can anyone help me? i got problems with my via s3 unichrome graphics card
[16:18] <soontak> anyone experienced libkonq5-dev package error when trying to upgrade from kde 4.0 to 4.1 ?
[16:18] <[ifrog]> How many nameservers can we have in the resolve.conf ?
[16:19] <antinerd> i just want to change the resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768, but with the vesa driver kdm shows me a black screen and with the openchrome driver the only possible resolution is 1600x1200 and 3/4 of the image are outside of the screen
[16:23] <[ifrog]> Wed Aug  6 18:23:03 AST 2008
[16:23] <[ifrog]> antinerd, lspci | grep VGA                 ...?
[16:27] <antinerd> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[16:27] <Natalia> antinerd : Xorg sucks. It worries gnu/lionux too much :)
[16:28] <antinerd> do you know a solution for my problem?
[16:29] <soontak> anyone experienced libkonq5-dev package error when trying to upgrade from kde 4.0 to 4.1 ?
[16:30] <[ifrog]> antinerd, Pastebin your xorg.conf
[16:31] <emons> hello someone was helping me before
[16:31] <emons> u guys still here?
[16:31] <l3x> hello good people of linux!
[16:32] <[ifrog]> emons, Remember his nick at least. :0
[16:32] <l3x> i am walking through my gf how to install and configure kubuntu on her pc via kopete :) and i need your help for one bit...
[16:33] <l3x> is there a way to connect pocket pc FSC pocket loox 600 with kubuntu?
[16:33] <emons> unfortunately i dont
[16:34] <emons> they were really kind and helpful but at some point i really had to go so i thank them and left
[16:34] <emons> could u help ifrog?
[16:34] <antinerd> http://pastebin.com/dc5a0511
[16:36] <emons> they said i have some weird issue with my wireless conncection cuz i asked them about my high speed internet thatz going slow on kubuntu and after several terminals and stuff it came out it has to do with my wired, any help?
[16:37] <[ifrog]> emons, Oh, that was agent_bob
[16:37] <[ifrog]> The guy who was helping you.
[16:38] <emons> yes
[16:38] <emons> exactly
[16:38] <emons> and a friend of him
[16:41] <BraveSpear> Anyone know how to make Firefox the default browser for a LiveCD I have created? I have created desktop icons with links to webpages, but Konqueror is opened automatically when the icons are clicked.  I want them to open in Firefox.
[16:42] <BraveSpear> Can I easily remove konqueror from KDE?
[16:43] <l3x> BraveSpear: why?
[16:43] <antinerd> this was the one with the vesa driver, and this is one non working with openchrome: http://pastebin.com/d1e4eeb6a if i delete the line modeline and modes its working better but with a resolution of 1600x1200 and 3/4 of the image outside of the screen
[16:46] <BraveSpear> antinerd: have you tried http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[16:46] <antinerd> yes
[16:46] <BraveSpear> l3x: My employer wants it to be so for the livecd I have created.
[16:47] <BraveSpear> l3x: the livecd needs to be as stripped down as possible due to security/liability issues.
[16:53] <antinerd> BraveSpear: i tried several modeline generators with different resolutions to except errors in one of them but the modelines from the different generators where nearly the same and no one worked yet
[16:55] <[ifrog]> what about Driver "via" ?
[16:55] <BraveSpear> antinerd: sorry to hear that.  I've been trying to establish a generic 1024x768x60hz for a livecd I've been working on, but so far nothing has worked for me either.
[16:56] <antinerd> [ifrog]: i think i tried that already... but 1sec i'll try it again
[17:15] <mar77i> hi there, I'm having trouble with a cnf7129 camera, for which I have installed a uvcvideo driver
[17:17] <mar77i> ...which doesn't support this device. ^^
[17:17] <liar> [ifrog]: did not work
[17:17] <liar> ups
[17:18] <antinerd> [ifrog]: did not work
[17:18] <wesley_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34806/  whats the mac adress off the eth0 en wifi0 ??
[17:21] <emilsedgh_> wesley_: try ifconfig
[17:23] <[ifrog]> antinerd, what error do you get?
[17:24] <mizipzor> hi all, im installing from a livecd now, is this the place to ask for help if i run into trouble?
[17:25] <mar77i> where can I find a cnf7129 eee builtin camera driver?
[17:26] <antinerd> [ifrog]: black screen with red dots
[17:27] <antinerd> no error message
[17:30] <antinerd> no idea?
[17:31] <frank> hi
[17:32] <eagles0513875> !hi | frank
[17:32] <l3x> how do i install special effecet (compiz and emerald) the proper way???
[17:33] <djg9282> Hi guys...got a quick question about Linux in general as it might just not pertain to Kubuntu. I went to a wireless hotspot the other day and the way it worked was that it had to first connect with KNetworkManager and then once i got a signal i was to open up a web browser which i would then be "redirected" to a login page where i then must put in a password to gain access on their wifi network. The page would never redirect
[17:33] <djg9282> and i figured it was a security measure that Linux has that wouldn't allow page redirects. Any insight on this?
[17:35] <mizipzor> is there a way in kopete to hide the join/part messages in the channel?
[17:36] <eagles0513875> djg9282: ive seen that too on windows machines its the way they have the hotspot seutp
[17:37] <djg9282> so it had nothing to do with linux...ya know its funny to hear "tech support" when you call them because they are like so clueless...they told me to call "Linux" and ask them for help
[17:38] <omar_> tech support told you to call Linux? lol They sure are a load of help :D
[17:38] <djg9282> yeah, i looked for a 1-800 # but couldn't find one :P
[17:39] <omar_> I bet If you found it, they would ask you to call tech support
[17:39] <mizipzor> lol thats so true
[17:39] <djg9282> there was a person next to me on her windows machine and she got on fine....but i couldn't get the page to redirect at all
[17:39] <djg9282> i tried firefox and konquerer
[17:40] <mizipzor> installation complete! rebooting now, see ya all soon!
[17:40] <skreechmiester> djg9282: Which site?
[17:40] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: Cool
[17:40] <djg9282> at first i thought it was the firewall so i disabled everything and tried it again
[17:40] <omar_> laters mizi
[17:40] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: use konversation for IRC
[17:40] <djg9282> and it still wouldn't work
[17:40] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: thanks for the tip, ill try it!
[17:40] <omar_> maybe its just windows...they kinda have better support
[17:41] <djg9282> skreechmiester: i was at a honda dealer that had free wifi access but it required the page to be redirected to their own login page in order for me to get access
[17:41] <omar_> That's not free >_>
[17:42] <skreechmiester> omar_: No It can still be free just not free for all
[17:42] <omar_> thats true
[17:42] <djg9282> is it possible it could only work for windows machines?
[17:42] <omar_> But I don't like going up to people asking if I can use their wifi
[17:43] <skreechmiester> djg9282: If it works for Firefox on windows it should work for firefox on Linux
[17:43] <omar_> I just "borrow" it
[17:43] <skreechmiester> omar_: Well that may be in some way connected to the rest of their network so they can' allow hat
[17:43] <djg9282> omar__: i don't mind its at a car dealer...i just wanted to pass time so my car would be done...only problem is i passed time on tech support...and i knew more then the tech guy
[17:43] <skreechmiester> Toyota could sit in the starbucks across the road for days stealing Hybrid cars specs :)
[17:44] <djg9282> when he suggested i called linux and said "uhhh ok its ...thanks for your help."
[17:44] <skreechmiester> djg9282: Should have just told them you were using Firefox
[17:44] <omar_> wow...I just noticed all these people in here
[17:44] <djg9282> i did
[17:44] <djg9282> i wanted the guy to walk me through anything
[17:44] <djg9282> the guy had no clue what linux was
[17:45] <skreechmiester> Don't tell them LInux unless it comes up
[17:45] <frank> i have a question, it'll probably be petty easy for u, but not for me: usually the restricted driver manager under gutsy recognized my broadcom wl-card 42xx just fine... now, the new version under hardy doesn't... what should i do?
[17:45] <djg9282> when i mentioned it it was obvious that he had no idea what i was talking about
[17:45] <skreechmiester> frank: hae regressions
[17:45] <skreechmiester> hate
[17:45] <Nece228> i cant install poprietary drivers of my radeon 9600L
[17:46] <skreechmiester> djg9282: It's like my ISP here I call them and tell them which server they need to reboot to get things working again
[17:46] <djg9282> skreechmiester: yeah the only problem is they would have taken me through "start" control panel blah blah blah...at first i thought it was the firewall blocking it so i was asking him questions about services and ports
[17:47] <djg9282> he just wanted to keep on saying "start"
[17:47] <skreechmiester> djg9282: Woah you need to hit the control panel to get to the web page?
[17:47] <skreechmiester> that's a badly designed web page
[17:48] <djg9282> well i really did think it was linux just blocking a redirect for security reasons
[17:48] <skreechmiester> there was a woman there on Windows?
[17:48] <frank> ok, solved it... i just upgraded jockey to its newest version... thanks anyway
[17:48] <djg9282> yeah sitting right next to me
[17:48] <skreechmiester> Should have just shoulder surfed the URL of the redirect
[17:48] <skreechmiester> frank: Cool
[17:49] <djg9282> i couldn't...she was already surfing on other sites
[17:49] <omar_> skreechmiester: could they make it only work for windows?
[17:50] <skreechmiester> omar_: yes
[17:50] <omar_> maybe they have a thing against linux D:
[17:50] <skreechmiester> require activex
[17:50] <skreechmiester> they probably would do it out of ignorance
[17:50] <skreechmiester>  as it would kill macs as well
[17:51] <djg9282> omar_: its funny...i been trying to tell my family about linux...they never heard of it so they are getting quite an education...but its really funny when you talk to a tech guy for windows and he has no clue at all about alternatives...i just started using linux about 2 months ago but i knew about it for years and years
[17:51] <luciana> hello
[17:51] <skreechmiester> !hi
[17:51] <omar_> hiya :3
[17:52] <skreechmiester> djg9282: yeah MS and now apple live on Mindshare
[17:52] <luciana> whats up here
[17:52] <omar_> I just started using ubuntu like 2 weeks ago
[17:52] <skreechmiester> Linux still doesn't get it
[17:52] <kaiserjd> can someone walk me through mounting an iso image with the comand line or at least link we to a good tutorial
[17:52] <skreechmiester> luciana: Look at the topic :)
[17:52] <omar_> and today came my live cd (kubuntu)
[17:52] <luciana> ok...rs
[17:53] <skreechmiester> kaiserjd: sudo mount /path/to/the.iso /path/to/mount/point -o loop
[17:53] <djg9282> skreechmiester: it will....one of the things that interests my family is the security i tell them about...no true virus threats etc. they had their windows machines taken over by spyware and viruses on several occasions
[17:53] <luciana> so, could you help me about amsn?
[17:53] <kaiserjd> ok... i didn't realize it was that easy... thanks
[17:53] <skreechmiester> luciana: sure
[17:53] <skreechmiester> djg9282: Unfortunately no it won't
[17:54] <luciana> i have a msn installed im my computer, but today isnt run
[17:54] <skreechmiester> !doesn't work
[17:54] <omar_> djgp282: I think families don't really know about linux too well because there really isnt any advertisement
[17:55] <djg9282> well yeah its sort of the "underground" OS
[17:55] <djg9282> i been getting my wife to work on it...she loves it
[17:56] <omar_> skreechmiester: are you like a linux genius? You sure know a lot
[17:56] <kaiserjd> skreechmiester: when i'm done how do i unmount it?
[17:57] <djg9282> Talking about learning linux...do any of you know of a good book that actually focuses more on kde and the debian distro?
[17:58] <omar_> So quiet :o
[17:58] <skreechmiester> kaiserjd: sudo umount /path/to/mount/point
[17:58] <kaiserjd> ok thanks
[17:58] <skreechmiester> luciana :-(
[17:58] <omar_> luciana?
[17:59] <djg9282> skreechmiester: i think as far as mind share goes...i think the big thing in my mind that linux brings to mind is "security" i don't think i could say the same about windows with that...i attribute computer games to that
[17:59] <skreechmiester> She asked a question by saying something doesn't work then left
[17:59] <skreechmiester>  Guess he thought that we were ignoring
[18:00] <skreechmiester> assuming luciana is a him
[18:00] <skreechmiester> djg9282: there is a huge differene between technical and mind share
[18:00] <omar_> we can only assume on the net
[18:00] <skreechmiester> Technically I'm sure linux will squash most big boys
[18:00] <skreechmiester> Butthat makes no difference if people never think of it
[18:00] <djg9282> well you are thinking more about name attributes
[18:01] <djg9282> like Xerox...to mean copying something
[18:01] <djg9282> or kleenex to mean nose tissue
[18:01] <skreechmiester> It's like Dell in Hardware people can do things much better but everyone KNOWS Dell so it's where they look for a solution
[18:01] <skreechmiester> omar_: Suppose it doesn't start at all?
[18:02] <omar_> suppose WHAT doesnt start?
[18:02] <skreechmiester> djg9282: No I mean mind share. If someone is looking for a new computer they choose between a Mac and a PC
[18:02] <skreechmiester> luciana: Welcome back
[18:02] <skreechmiester> djg9282: The only reason people make that choice now is Apple has moved to increase mind share
[18:02] <skreechmiester> You think about it when you have to make a choice naturally
[18:02] <djg9282> skreechmiester: i think it also depends on ones experience...keep in mind i used windows and nothing else until 2 months ago
[18:03] <skreechmiester> djg9282: Right because linux has no mindshare
[18:03] <skreechmiester> !ot | skreechmiester And djg9282 That's enough!
[18:03] <skreechmiester> luciana: What do you mean amsn doesn't run ?
[18:04] <luciana> do you speak portuguese??
[18:04] <skreechmiester> !pt
[18:04] <skreechmiester> luciana: Does that help?
[18:08] <skreechmiester> Hmm
[18:08] <skreechmiester> flaccid_: ping?
[18:09] <omar_> stupid question: on this thing, I can go to a diff room right?
[18:09] <skreechmiester> Sure
[18:10] <skreechmiester> #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:10] <bazhang> omar_, /j #channame
[18:10] <skreechmiester> Click on that
[18:10] <skreechmiester> or /join #channel
[18:10] <omar_> does it list all of them on the net?
[18:10] <omar_> sorry for offtopic
[18:11] <bazhang> omar_, /msg ubottu irc for link to channel list
[18:15] <carlos> ahora donde irc en español?
[18:15] <bazhang> !es
[18:16] <carlos> coollon
[18:16] <carlos> o aprndo ingles o aprendeis todos el español
[18:16] <carlos> lo tenemos mal
[18:17] <bazhang> carlos, /join #ubuntu-es
[18:17] <carlos> asssiassssssss campeon
[18:17] <bazhang> carlos, not here
[18:22] <shaffy> i'm running really low on hd space on my 5gig hd.  can anyone tell me of any uncessary directories that i can empty?
[18:23] <shaffy> *unnecessary
[18:25] <skreechmiester> shaffy: ducks it
[18:26] <shaffy> skreechmiester: ?  what do you mean?
[18:26] <skreechmiester> alias ducks='du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11'
[18:26] <skreechmiester> cd /
[18:26] <skreechmiester> ducks
[18:28] <skreechmiester> it will tell you what takes up the most space
[18:28] <shaffy> hmm, yeah, i'm running it right now.  thanks :)
[18:28] <skreechmiester> I have it as a permanent alias
[18:30] <abotinov>
[18:30] <abotinov> all greetings), I know the eyes of bad English but will try to formulate a question
[18:31] <ubunturos> abotinov: as long as people understand your problem, it'll be OK :)
[18:31] <shaffy> skreechmiester: do you keep doing it in each directory to narrow it down?
[18:32] <tico> hello how can I install kubuntu in my ubuntu distro without the applications to be mixed up in the menus?
[18:33] <abotinov> wine@ethersoft working from under admin, but dont work from under user. pls help :)
[18:34] <gokturk_> ubuntu-tr
[18:34] <gokturk_> #ubuntu-tr
[18:34] <gokturk_> #pardus
[18:34] <testi> I don't like xandros very much, security updates seem to be extremely delayed - should i install Kubuntu on my ASUS Eee, is that possible?
[18:34] <gokturk_> #pardusgeyik
[18:34] <abotinov>
[18:34] <abotinov> or it must be installed separately?
[18:40] <skreechmiester> shaffy: yes
[18:40] <skreechmiester> Cd /hugedir && ducks
[18:41] <skreechmiester> abotinov: What language ?
[18:43] <nikosuom> help
[18:43] <abotinov> russian
[18:44] <Manaf> Hello everyone.. Why can't my numlock be turned automaticly "on" as it happens in windows when i turn on my computer? In my Bios it is set to be "on", and I have set it to turn "on" in Kubuntu. But it only turn on AFTER i have inserted my passowrd in the login screen. I don't need it after that? Can i have numlock to be "on" when i reach the logon screen?
[18:44] <skreechmiester> abotinov: привет
[18:44] <kane> hi
[18:44] <skreechmiester> !ru | abotinov
[18:45] <kane> Is Broadcom supported with Kubuntu
[18:45] <skreechmiester> kane: kinda
[18:45] <kane> Like which ones
[18:45] <kane> Can you give me a list
[18:45] <tico> hello how can I install kubuntu in my ubuntu distro without the applications to be mixed up in the menus?
[18:46] <skreechmiester> !wireless
[18:46] <skreechmiester> tico: there was a trick to doing it but it really should be filed as a bug
[18:47] <skreechmiester> Honestly if htey can do it in add/remove programs they can do it in the menu
[18:47] <kane> !wireless
[18:47] <kane> lol how do you do it
[18:47] <squirkey> hola everyone
[18:47] <skreechmiester> !wifi | kane here
[18:49] <squirkey> is there an irc support site for kubuntu?
[18:49] <mizipzor> with the risk of sounding stupid; i attempted a distribution upgrade but it crashed halfway through, but a reboot later everything works fine, but now i dont know which version i got... is there an easy way to check?
[18:50] <Pici> mizipzor: lsb_release -a  in a terminal
[18:50] <skreechmiester> squirkey: this would be it
[18:50] <mizipzor> Pici: thanks
[18:50] <Pici> mizipzor: apt-get install -f    may also sort out any pending tasks that didn't finish.
[18:50] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:51] <mizipzor> Pici: one package to remove; linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[18:51] <mizipzor> Pici: got an error when running that though
[18:51] <skreechmiester> hmm
[18:51] <skreechmiester> shouldn't that be installing
[18:52] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: dont ask me :p
[18:52] <Pici> No. 2.6.24 is the current version for Hardy
[18:52] <kane> LOL i went to windows room And i said Linux Rulz
[18:54] <mizipzor> if i want to install kde4, would the correct command be: apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop "
[18:54] <skreechmiester> kane: They get that every 10 minutes
[18:54] <kane> lol
[18:55] <squirkey> I am doing a apt-get update and I am getting the error:  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."  When I try to run the suggested command I get the msg that I need to be the super user.  What gives?
[18:56] <skreechmiester> squirkey: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:57] <squirkey> what does this command do?
[18:58] <jussi01> squirkey: configures unconfigured packages
[19:00] <squirkey> thanks jussio1
[19:04] <Masteredu> Hello ...
[19:04] <Masteredu> can anyone help me i have problems with installing kubuntu ! :(
[19:05] <sea> Erhm, how would i recover a whole partition?
[19:05] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: Depends on the problem
[19:05] <Masteredu> when i will install it or test it from the live cd it says settings kernel variables ... then it comes many error messages
[19:05] <skreechmiester> Like if you don't have electricity at your house that might be a problem
[19:05] <Masteredu> pls help me
[19:05] <skreechmiester> What kind of messages?
[19:06] <Masteredu> buffer error
[19:06] <Masteredu> etc.
[19:06] <skreechmiester> sea: "recover?"
[19:06] <mizipzor> Masteredu: start by pasting the error messages and its easier to help
[19:06] <Masteredu> lol
[19:06] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: Your CD has problems
[19:06] <Masteredu> how
[19:06] <Masteredu> but
[19:06] <Masteredu> i have burned it 3 times !
[19:06] <mizipzor> Masteredu: write them here
[19:06] <Masteredu> and all time it says this
[19:06] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: Either check the MD5sum or burn it at a slower speed
[19:06] <mizipzor> ...or both
[19:06] <Masteredu> i have burned it with x4 omg
[19:06] <Masteredu> i think is slowly
[19:06] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: oh wow :)
[19:07] <mizipzor> hehe
[19:07] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: That's slow :) what Brand CDrom Drive and CD-R ?
[19:07] <Masteredu> ?
[19:07] <Masteredu> i have writed the iso immage
[19:07] <skreechmiester> did you check the MD5 Sum?
[19:07] <Masteredu> on a DVD +R
[19:07] <Masteredu> check the MD5 sum?
[19:07] <Masteredu> i think no
[19:07] <skreechmiester> !md5
[19:08] <skreechmiester> try that
[19:08] <Masteredu> i havent windows omg
[19:08] <Masteredu> this time i have ubuntu
[19:09] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: it's easier then
[19:09] <skreechmiester> just type md5sum /path/to/iso
[19:09] <Masteredu> it is a problem
[19:09] <Masteredu> that i have taken the KDE 4 Mixed version?
[19:10] <skreechmiester> No
[19:10] <Masteredu> hm :/
[19:10] <Masteredu> why ubuntu was easier
[19:10] <Masteredu> then kubuntu installing
[19:10] <skreechmiester> Where are you installing Kubuntu ?
[19:10] <Masteredu> ?
[19:10] <Masteredu> on my pc
[19:10] <skreechmiester> are you installing it over Ubuntu?
[19:11] <Masteredu> but i dont come in the graphical menu
[19:11] <skreechmiester> or beside it?
[19:11] <Masteredu> i will install over it
[19:11] <skreechmiester> Ha ha :)
[19:11] <Masteredu> i will delete ubuntu and make kubuntu -...-
[19:11] <skreechmiester> do you need the space?
[19:11] <Masteredu> read over your post ^^^
[19:11] <skreechmiester> how much space do you have free?
[19:11] <Masteredu> 200 gb
[19:11] <skreechmiester> hard drive space
[19:11] <skreechmiester> Ha ha
[19:11] <skreechmiester> you don't need the CD
[19:11] <Masteredu> ?
[19:12] <skreechmiester> You want KDE 4?
[19:12] <Masteredu> i will kubuntu
[19:12] <skreechmiester> Right
[19:12] <Masteredu> not kde 4
[19:12] <Masteredu> kubuntu
[19:12] <skreechmiester> Do you want KDE3 or KDE 4?
[19:12] <Masteredu> the os not only kde
[19:12] <Masteredu> kde 4
[19:12] <skreechmiester> !kde4
[19:12] <skreechmiester> Read that URL^^^
[19:12] <skreechmiester> then
[19:12] <skreechmiester> !purekde
[19:12] <skreechmiester> Then do that ^^
[19:13] <Masteredu> no
[19:13] <Masteredu> i will install kubuntu
[19:13] <Masteredu> :(
[19:13] <Masteredu> fully
[19:13] <Masteredu> new
[19:13] <skreechmiester> That is kubuntu
[19:13] <Masteredu> but on ubuntu
[19:13] <skreechmiester> no
[19:13] <skreechmiester> !kubuntu
[19:13] <Masteredu> but
[19:13] <Masteredu> its to a problem
[19:13] <Masteredu> that i have now in ubuntu have problems with my keyboard etc.
[19:13] <skreechmiester> Ah
[19:14] <Masteredu> a new install can fix this problems i think
[19:14] <skreechmiester> That is different :)
[19:14] <skreechmiester> what problems :)
[19:14] <Masteredu> all time
[19:14] <Masteredu> it sets to usa layout
[19:14] <Masteredu> but i will german layout
[19:14] <skreechmiester> hmm
[19:15] <skreechmiester> you can fix that withut an install but I can see why you would want to reinstall
[19:15] <Masteredu> ?
[19:15] <skreechmiester> !keyboard
[19:15] <Masteredu> NO
[19:15] <Masteredu> lol
[19:16] <Masteredu> i allready have do this lol
[19:16] <Masteredu> dont goes ...
[19:16] <skreechmiester> Yeah I figured
[19:16] <skreechmiester> ok
[19:16] <skreechmiester> how about this
[19:16] <skreechmiester> try the install for KDE4 first
[19:16] <skreechmiester> KDE deals with sessions better so when you set something it should stick
[19:16] <skreechmiester> !kde4
[19:17] <Masteredu> jeah
[19:17] <skreechmiester> Follow that URL
[19:17] <Masteredu> i know
[19:17] <Masteredu> :P
[19:17] <skreechmiester> You will get KDE4 and we can test the keyboard problems
[19:17] <skreechmiester> if it goes away we can remove Gnome
[19:17] <skreechmiester> Otherwise we can reinstall
[19:17] <eloquence> how do i edit user and group priveleges in kubuntu?
[19:17] <eloquence> i'm using 4.1
[19:18] <Masteredu> how can i delete ubuntu
[19:18] <Masteredu> programs
[19:18] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: Lets get KDE working first
[19:18] <skreechmiester> eloquence: System Settings -> users and groups
[19:19] <eloquence> doesnt exist
[19:20] <eloquence> there is a login thing
[19:20] <eloquence> but thats it
[19:20] <mizipzor> eloquence: "user management"?
[19:20] <eloquence> nope
[19:21] <Masteredu> help me
[19:22] <Masteredu> install kde on ubuntu :(
[19:22] <mizipzor> Masteredu: maybe you should try a clean install?
[19:22] <BraveSpear> masteredu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: I gave you the URL
[19:22] <skreechmiester> BraveSpear: The CD bums out
[19:22] <skreechmiester> !kde4 | Masteredu read this
[19:22] <mizipzor> if someone has the time, i would need some assistance with this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096601.0
[19:22] <BraveSpear> skreech: ah, ty
[19:23] <Masteredu> it dont goes
[19:23] <Masteredu> it says put in the kubuntu hard heron cd
[19:24] <BraveSpear> Is it in?
[19:24] <Masteredu> jeah
[19:24] <Masteredu> it is
[19:24] <Masteredu> allready in
[19:24] <RawSushi> hmm
[19:24] <Masteredu> can i download it
[19:25] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: why is linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic being removed?
[19:25] <Masteredu> can i downloade thes files that are in the cd?
[19:25] <Masteredu> download
[19:25] <BraveSpear> sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-desktop
[19:25] <RawSushi> I just got kubuntu-kde4-desktop and the sound effects are working fine...but I can't listen to any music
[19:25] <RawSushi> how do I fix that?
[19:25] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: beats me, i just got here
[19:25] <Masteredu> pls hlep me
[19:25] <Masteredu> help
[19:25] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: shouldnt it be removed? how do i revert it?
[19:25] <BraveSpear> then sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[19:25] <BraveSpear> wait sorry, replace kde-desktop with kubuntu-desktop
[19:25] <eloquence> guys do any of you know how i can edit user and group priveledges?
[19:26] <mizipzor> RawSushi: have you tried different programs for playing music? maybe its the program and not the drivers
[19:26] <RawSushi> mizipzor: the ones I'm using are the ones I used in gnome and worked fine
[19:26] <mizipzor> eloquence: i have them in k menu -> system setting -> user management
[19:26] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: the latest kernel in the repos seems to be 2.6.24-19 so i don't think removing it will cause problems
[19:26] <mizipzor> RawSushi: maybe they need to be reinstalled now in kde or something?
[19:27] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: ok, good... any ideas as to why kubuntu fails to remove it?
[19:27] <RawSushi> dunno
[19:27] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: or rather... why apt-get fails to remove it
[19:27] <eloquence> i will see maybe my menu needs some editing
[19:27] <mizipzor> RawSushi: sorry im not of any help, just shooting in the dark here :p
[19:27] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude update and the sudo aptitude full-upgrade. maybe that will install the latest stuff and then you can try to purge it
[19:27] <skreechmiester> RawSushi: #kubuntu-kde4
[19:28] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: no idea why it's misbehaving like that
[19:28] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: can i force it?
[19:28] <RawSushi> Thanks
[19:29] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: yes but i don't know if that will break things
[19:29] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hmm...
[19:29] <mizipzor> maybe i should head over to #ubuntu?
[19:29] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: run this command - sudo aptitude install somecrapthatitwontfind - and see if aptitude solve the problem by itself
[19:30] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: that might help. there are more people in there ;)
[19:30] <skreechmiester> waaaay more
[19:31] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m45cdf654
[19:31] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: just make sure that is not your main kernel before you remove it
[19:31] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: how do i know?
[19:31] <eloquence> mizipzor, can you see what the command would be for user settings? i might have no choice but to add it to my menu or to go through console
[19:32] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[19:32] <mizipzor> eloquence: as a matter of fact, i tried to find that to tell you to type it in a konsole :) but i didnt find it... ill look a bit harder in a minute
[19:33] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: running that... do you want to see paste's?
[19:33] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: that will help :)
[19:33] <eloquence> kthx
[19:33] <eloquence> it seems this might be one of the many lamenesses of kde4.1
[19:34] <eloquence> even kde 4.0 didnt have it
[19:34] <eloquence> menu != efficient
[19:34] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d5759b41c
[19:34] <skreechmiester> eloquence: What are you looking for again?
[19:35] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: try sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic
[19:35] <eloquence> user & group priveledge settings
[19:36] <eloquence> i need to add myself to virtualbox's group
[19:36] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: almost the same output, same error from the looks of it
[19:36] <eloquence> hang on
[19:36] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d460f7c99
[19:36] <eloquence> i just got an answer from #kubuntu-kde4
[19:36] <eloquence> kuser-kde4
[19:36] <eloquence> i need to install that
[19:36] <skreechmiester> ah that's funky
[19:36] <ScorpKing> eloquence: sudo adduser <yourusername> vboxusers
[19:37] <eloquence> ok
[19:37] <eloquence> thanks
[19:37] <skreechmiester> ScorpKing: more like usermod but kuser-kde4 is better
[19:37] <mizipzor> once ive solved this, i want to upgrade to kde4 myself :)
[19:37] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: Solved?
[19:37] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[19:37] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: this http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096601.0
[19:38] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hm, same thing again, that command wants to remove the broken package, which leads to the same error outpu
[19:38] <mizipzor> t
[19:38] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: ugh..
[19:38] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: Is there a /boot/initrd-etc ?
[19:39] <skreechmiester> initrd.img-2-etc
[19:39] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: no
[19:39] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: It said it generated it
[19:39] <skreechmiester> Hmm
[19:39] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: there is a /boot/initrd.img-2.6.2
[19:39] <skreechmiester> well lucky this isn't a fatal error :)
[19:39] <mizipzor> yey
[19:39] <skreechmiester> Hooray stacking modularity :)
[19:39] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: wouldnt hurt all that much, installed kubuntu like four hours ago
[19:40] <skreechmiester> reboot choose another kernel continue
[19:40] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: Welcome
[19:40] <Masteredu> why you dont help me
[19:40] <Masteredu> :(
[19:40] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: stacking... what?
[19:40] <testi> I want to install kubuntu on the asus eee, but it doesn't have a CD drive and it doesn't seem to but from the usb stick
[19:40] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: i'm not sure how to check what kernel version you kave other than looking in /boot/grub/menu.lst or looking at the bash message when you log in but if you have a later kernel installed i think it might be same to force remove it
[19:40] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: YOu left :-P
[19:40] <Masteredu> jeah
[19:40] <Masteredu> but
[19:40] <Masteredu> mhm
[19:40] <Masteredu> the commands dont goes
[19:40] <Masteredu> ok
[19:40] <Masteredu> how now i can delete
[19:40] <Masteredu> gnome panel
[19:40] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: The Kernel is separate from everythng else
[19:40] <mizipzor> testi: network boot?
[19:40] <Masteredu> all software etc.
[19:40] <Masteredu> alll
[19:40] <skreechmiester> !purekde
[19:40] <Masteredu> and then install kde
[19:40] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: ^^
[19:41] <Masteredu> i will try thanks
[19:41] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: I keep telling you to install KDE first
[19:41] <ScorpKing> haha
[19:41] <skreechmiester> Masteredu: type /join #kubuntu-kde4 they will help you
[19:41] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: i dont have grub or anything, when booting, i come directly to the kde login manager
[19:41] <Masteredu> it says
[19:42] <Masteredu> cant found pacet gnome-icon-themegnome-media
[19:42] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: you can't get to the kde login manager without the kernel :-P
[19:42] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: you have to press <esc> when you see Grub loading..
[19:42] <sebastian_> hi i have 2 problems
[19:42] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d5e927000
[19:42] <oscar> hola
[19:42] <oscar>  español
[19:42] <sebastian_> what was the name of the file in /etc where i change display resolution?
[19:42] <skreechmiester> !es
[19:42] <Masteredu> sebastian etc/x11/xorg.conf
[19:43] <Masteredu> this is the path
[19:43] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: no, that sounds quite unreasonably :p what i meant was, i see no grub menu... to choose kernel
[19:43] <sebastian_> thx
[19:43] <Masteredu> np
[19:43] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: press esc right after the BIOS screen
[19:43] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: ok... and choose? what?
[19:43] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: ..-19 is installed
[19:43] <skreechmiester> You should have a 3 second countdown
[19:43] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: Anything but 22 :)
[19:43] <mizipzor> ok... ill try that, brb
[19:44] <ScorpKing> skreechmiester: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d5e927000 there is only -14 and -19
[19:44] <skreechmiester> see? no problem :)
[19:45] <ScorpKing> i hope he can boot now
[19:46] <skreechmiester> should be able to
[19:46] <skreechmiester> He has old kernels that work
[19:46] <ScorpKing> yeah i see now
[19:47] <mizipzor> ok, there, i went into the menu and picked the latest version / highest number
[19:48] <mizipzor> run sudo apt-get install -f again?
[19:48] <skreechmiester> Sure
[19:48] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: yes or sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:49] <mizipzor> same error on apt-get... dpkg gave no output at all
[19:49] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: now might be the time to force remove it and hope for the best. ;) hehe
[19:50] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: wish me luck :p
[19:50] <LetsGo67> I cannot play sound, because my sound device is being used, how can I find out what is using it?  (Xfce)
[19:50] <tico> hello how can i set kdm as defaul through tty?
[19:50] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: uh... how to i force it?
[19:50] <mizipzor> do*
[19:50]  * ScorpKing wishes mizipzor the best..
[19:51] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: i'm busy looking at the manual.
[19:51] <skreechmiester> :-)
[19:51] <qrux> hello
[19:51] <qrux> Jucato
[19:51] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: you got any hints as to have force-remove the package?
[19:51] <mizipzor> how*
[19:51] <LetsGo67> Please!
[19:51] <BraveSpear> ScorpKing: Linux has a manual? :D
[19:51] <mizipzor> hmm... typing skills are going doooown
[19:51] <qrux> help
[19:52] <skreechmiester> level1: Please?
[19:52] <dhendu9411> hello all
[19:52] <mizipzor> qrux: feel free to state a question :)
[19:52] <ScorpKing> BraveSpear: man man ;)
[19:52] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hehe
[19:52] <qrux> gparted isnt showing me the partitions of one disk, it says it can't read the disklable
[19:52] <qrux> nalioth
[19:52] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: what does dist-upgrade -f do ?
[19:53] <mizipzor> it does a command-not-found
[19:53] <happytiger> lol
[19:53] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: try to purge it
[19:53] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[19:54] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: same error as always
[19:54] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: how?
[19:54] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d21fddc45
[19:54] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude -purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[19:55] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: Youknow what it is. It's not installed
[19:55] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: is it -p or --purge?
[19:55] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: mhm? youre on to something?
[19:55] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: --purge
[19:55] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq might work
[19:56] <skreechmiester> ScorpKing: I'm thinking it's not installed
[19:56] <skreechmiester> it's not finding any of the files it's not in the grub
[19:56] <ScorpKing> skreechmiester: why will it be broken then?
[19:56] <qrux> Hello, i have a question which drive would give me the best performance on linux, Maxtor with 2mb cache and U-ATA 133 or a WD drive with 8 mb cache and ATA 100 ?
[19:56] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: that gave the same error as always
[19:57] <skreechmiester> qrux: Cache = good
[19:57] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: ScorpKing: hang on, i got some error messages when upgrading, i reported them as bugs, attached some output, ill try to look it up
[19:57] <skreechmiester> Whoot
[19:57] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: there are some real pros in #linux as well ;)
[19:57] <qrux> so cache matters more than ATA speeds skreechmiester?
[19:58] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: in my experience, they are a tad bit hostile, i need more experience before i want to set foot there again :p
[19:58] <mizipzor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/255412
[19:58] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: hehe.. i'fe noticed it to
[19:59] <skreechmiester> !botsnack
[19:59] <dhendu9411> can someone help me with multi-monitor support?
[20:00] <skreechmiester> !xinerama
[20:00] <skreechmiester> !dualhead
[20:00] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: hmm.. i wonder what will happen if you download that .deb , install it with dpkg , touch the missing files and the purge it.
[20:00] <skreechmiester> That's the limit of my knowledge :)
[20:00] <dhendu9411> ok I will check them out.  thanks
[20:01] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: if you would be so kind of guiding me a little along the way, we will soon find out
[20:01] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: someone needs to help you. ;) give me a sec while i find the .deb
[20:02] <tico> hello how can i set gdm as default through the command line?
[20:02] <ScorpKing> tico: if i'm not mistaken that setting is in /etc/defaults/ somewhere
[20:05] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: take your time (brb smoke)
[20:05] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: righto
[20:09] <pteague_work> how do i get kate to not open more than 1 instance of it's self?
[20:10] <skreechmiester> Kate shouldn't
[20:10] <skreechmiester> kwrite does
[20:11] <broken_> Hey I just have a qucik question, what are the differences between Kubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix? I tried checking the FAQ but couldn't find it.
[20:13] <broken_> I suppose I'll go with the offically supported one.
[20:13] <skreechmiester> broken_: 8.04 is KDE3
[20:14] <skreechmiester> Remix is KDE 4
[20:14] <broken_> Ah thanks skreechmiester.
[20:15] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: if i have kde3 right now, how would i go about upgrading to kde4? tried installing the package but i get errors
[20:15] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: Which package ?
[20:16] <mizipzor> kde4... using adept manager
[20:16] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: <-
[20:16] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic_2.6.22-15.39_i386.deb
[20:16] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: #kubuntu-kde4 read the topic
[20:17] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: and then - wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-image-2.6.22-15-386_2.6.22-15.56_i386.deb
[20:17] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: roger
[20:17] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: done
[20:18] <sebastian_> i have a geforce 6 series should i install the nvidia-glx driver or nvidia-glx-new?
[20:18] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: wow, your internet must be nice and fast.
[20:18] <BraveSpear> anyone here have any experience creating livecds?
[20:18] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg --install linux-image-2.6.22-15-386_2.6.22-15.56_i386.deb
[20:18] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg --install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic_2.6.22-15.39_i386.deb
[20:19] <pteague_work> if i get a text download from firefox & have it open it in kate... rather than loading it in the currently running kate it opens a new kate window (loading all the other files that were open in the last session) in order to display the newly downloaded file
[20:19] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:19] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: done
[20:19] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: pastebin any errors
[20:19] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sorry it's - sudo aptitude --purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:20] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: from the looks of it, no errors yet
[20:20] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: okey, running that command as well
[20:20] <ScorpKing> ah
[20:21]  * ScorpKing hope for the best
[20:21] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hmm, no, it says unknown command
[20:21] <mizipzor> Unknown command "linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic"
[20:22] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude --purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:22] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: that command?
[20:22] <mizipzor> yea
[20:22] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: gives the error, then goes on to print Usage
[20:23] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude --remove linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:23] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: no option --remove
[20:24] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude install somecrapitwontfind
[20:24] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: same error as always... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:25] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: pastebin it please
[20:25] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d2b83c868
[20:25] <BraveSpear> Scorpking: Could it be --  sudo aptitude remove linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:25] <ScorpKing> ah yes
[20:26] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: BraveSpear: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d54371a1
[20:26] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo cp linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic_2.6.22-15.39_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:26] <mizipzor> done
[20:26] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo cp linux-image-2.6.22-15-386_2.6.22-15.56_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:27] <mizipzor> done
[20:27] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude install somecrapitwontfind
[20:27] <skreechmiester> sudo aptitude install vista-kernel
[20:27] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: same error... again
[20:27] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: for me?
[20:27] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo touch /boot/System.map-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:28] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: and try again
[20:28] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: done
[20:28] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: the "some crap" command?
[20:28] <coreymon77> hi everybody!
[20:28] <ScorpKing> yeah
[20:28] <coreymon77> im home!
[20:28] <ScorpKing> hiya coreymon77 :)
[20:28] <coreymon77> anyone miss me?
[20:28]  * ScorpKing pokes coreymon77..
[20:29] <BraveSpear> mizipzor: sudo aptitude install vista-kernel
[20:29] <coreymon77> okay
[20:29] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d297a137a
[20:29] <coreymon77> atleast one person noticed ive been away for 5 weeks
[20:29] <mizipzor> BraveSpear: running that
[20:29] <ScorpKing> coreymon77: i wasn't around myself ;)
[20:29] <mizipzor> BraveSpear: seems to give the same error as every other command
[20:29] <coreymon77> for that long?
[20:29] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: he is joking ;)
[20:30] <mizipzor> oh...
[20:30] <mizipzor> i thought it was a strange choice of name!
[20:30] <ScorpKing> coreymon77: yeah, busy at work
[20:30] <skreechmiester> coreymon77: I've been gone 7
[20:30] <coreymon77> wow
[20:31] <BraveSpear> mizipzor: now try sudo aptitude remove linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:32] <mizipzor> BraveSpear: same error as always
[20:32] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: it seems that you will have to touch the filenames it can't find and make the directories that's missing. i'm sure those .debs where supposed to put those files there
[20:32] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: this problem is starting to annoy me :p
[20:32] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: tell me about it
[20:33] <skreechmiester> stdin: ping
[20:33] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: did the dpkg --install commands give any errors?
[20:33] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hang on
[20:33] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: wait, which one of them?
[20:34] <ScorpKing> both
[20:34] <ScorpKing> or any
[20:35] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: sudo dpkg --install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic ?
[20:35] <BraveSpear> If you know Polish, someone here fixed it -- http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://www.forum.ubuntu.pl/showthread.php%3Ft%3D77937&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DFATAL:%2BCould%2Bnot%2Bopen%2B%2527/boot/System.map-2.6.22-15-generic%2527:%2BNo%2Bsuch%2Bfile%2Bor%2Bdirectory%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DeEU
[20:36] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: it gave a "no such archive error"
[20:36] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: ah. one sec
[20:37] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg --install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic_2.6.22-15.39_i386.deb
[20:37] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: and the same full name for the other .deb
[20:37] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: oh.... a new error! :p
[20:37] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: ignore it for now and install the other .deb first
[20:37] <mizipzor> ok
[20:38] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d761bc5ca
[20:38] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg --install linux-image*
[20:39] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: that last command is running now
[20:39] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: done
[20:39] <ScorpKing> ok. run sudo aptitude install somecrap again
[20:40] <BraveSpear> Polish --> English translator --- http://www.poltran.com
[20:40] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: same error...............
[20:41] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d5059a40c
[20:41] <ScorpKing> hmm.. look at that link BraveSpear gave
[20:41] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: the polish translator?? :S
[20:41] <ScorpKing> no the longer one
[20:41] <BraveSpear> ScorpKing - I couldn't make heads or tails of the translation myself.
[20:41] <ScorpKing> then you'll need some translating
[20:41] <ScorpKing> yeah me neither
[20:42] <mizipzor> looking at it now
[20:42] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: did sudo dpkg --install linux-image* give any errors?
[20:43] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d4a831d2c
[20:44] <ScorpKing> sudo aptitude reinstall linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[20:45] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: same error
[20:45] <ScorpKing> ugh
[20:46] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hang on, there is an icon here in tray that asks me to reboot
[20:46] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: brb
[20:46] <ScorpKing> ok
[20:46] <skreechmiester> ha ha
[20:48] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: back
[20:49] <ScorpKing> any luck?
[20:49] <skreechmiester> mizipzor: what does uname -r say >
[20:49] <skreechmiester> ?
[20:50] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hmm... apt-get install crap seems to not want to remove anything at least
[20:50] <sebastian__> how do i open system settings as root?
[20:50] <qrux> pfexec = sudo?
[20:50] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: 2.6.24-19-generic
[20:50] <skreechmiester> qrux: Hmm?
[20:50] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: that's why i prefer aptitude for that
[20:51] <skreechmiester> ah you were answerng sebastian__
[20:51] <skreechmiester> sebastian__: kdesu systemsettings
[20:51] <skreechmiester> well
[20:52] <skreechmiester> /usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings
[20:52] <sebastian__> thx
[20:52] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: is your problem solved now?
[20:52] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hmm... using aptitude gives the same error
[20:53] <ScorpKing> ugh
[20:53]  * ScorpKing cries..
[20:53] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: nope.. im getting desperaty now
[20:53] <sebastian__> kdesudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettingsesudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings... Dont work
[20:53] <sebastian__> meant this :P kdesudo /usr/lib/kde4/bin/systemsettings
[20:53] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: i hate to do things this way but is there any way you can re install?
[20:54] <pteague_work> anybody know if there's a keyboard shortcut in kate that will collapse all code collapse sections?
[20:54] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: yes, but i think the same update message asking me to install that again would popup
[20:54] <skreechmiester> sebastian__: what does it do?
[20:54] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: i just installed the livecd, booted and installed all the updates i was asked to do
[20:54] <sebastian__> it never comes up it just says terminate
[20:54] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: that's very weird. i've never seen a package being so stuborn
[20:55] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: after that i cannot install anything since every install want to remove that package
[20:55] <sebastian__> now it worked :P
[20:55] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: you don't stay is south africa by any chance?
[20:55] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: actually no... why? you do?
[20:56] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: yes. i remastered a kubuntu cd including all the updates. getting it to you would have been easy
[20:57] <mizipzor> make an iso and upload it to linux tracker?
[20:57] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: does it have kde4? :)
[20:57] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: it's 1.7GB and i only have 1GB bandwidth for the month :(
[20:57] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: nope
[20:58] <crweb> i don't understand why k/ubuntu can't ship just plain qt4 the way its packaged
[20:58] <crweb> instead of this libqtwebkit1d crap
[20:58] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: oh darn... here in sweden we have unlimited bandwidth *spoiled*
[20:58] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: you are lucky indeed
[20:58] <skreechmiester> crweb: plain qt?
[20:59] <crweb> skreechmiester: webkit is in the qt4 4.4.0 source
[20:59] <crweb> libqt4-webkit, libqt4-network, etc
[20:59] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: any luck in #ubuntu ?
[20:59] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: nope... havent even got a comment :p
[21:00] <crweb> debian even hands them the packages already...
[21:00] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: ok back to the man pages then.
[21:01] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: pastebin the output of - sudo dpkg -s linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[21:02] <mizipzor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d290ee9c6
[21:02] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: also try sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[21:03] <mizipzor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d87d3881
[21:03] <ScorpKing> bah
[21:03]  * ScorpKing bangs his head on the desk and goes to find some asperin..
[21:04] <mizipzor> lol
[21:04] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo mkdir  /lib/modules/2.6.22-15-generic
[21:04] <mizipzor> done
[21:04] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo touch /lib/modules/2.6.22-15-generic/modules.dep.temp
[21:05] <mizipzor> done
[21:05] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[21:05] <ScorpKing> pastebin the output again
[21:05] <mizipzor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/dc8252f6
[21:06] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo touch /lib/modules/2.6.22-15-generic/kernel
[21:06] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[21:06] <mizipzor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d1a37ef33
[21:07] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq -r linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[21:08] <mizipzor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d24c87efe
[21:09] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude purge linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic
[21:09] <donspaulding> hello all, I'm running KDE4, and while resizing my main panel, I've apparently made it disappear, how can I set the panel size back to default without being able to click on it?
[21:09] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: ...
[21:09] <ScorpKing> hmm?
[21:09] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: omg! no errors
[21:09]  * mizipzor reads again
[21:09] <ScorpKing> :D
[21:09]  * ScorpKing jumps up and down while singing a happy song..
[21:09] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: huzzah! ill try install kdevelop, see if it works
[21:10] <ScorpKing> :D good luck and please don't break anything :P
[21:10] <skreechmiester> try upgrade your kernel! :)
[21:10] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: haha!
[21:10] <mizipzor> OMG I INSTALLED KDEVELOP
[21:11] <skreechmiester> @kde4
[21:11] <mizipzor> (yes, caps is needed for this occasion)
[21:11] <skreechmiester> !kde4
[21:11] <skreechmiester> ^^^^
[21:11] <skreechmiester> gogogogogo
[21:11] <mizipzor> wha? wut? me?
[21:11] <skreechmiester> burn some unlimited bandwidth
[21:11] <skreechmiester> ^_^
[21:11] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade and pastebin before you press Y
[21:11] <skreechmiester> Then update to intrepid just cause
[21:11] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: my torrenttracker/server does that every day ;)
[21:12]  * ScorpKing dreams about all the things he can do with unlimmited bandwidth..
[21:12] <mizipzor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/d614954f0
[21:13] <mizipzor> yea, i feel quite bad about it, were so spoiled here that we rarely consider the size of the files we transfer
[21:13] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: ok go for it :)
[21:13] <mizipzor> to us, its just time
[21:13] <skreechmiester> I would download hardware :)
[21:13] <[ifrog]> Helllo..
[21:13] <mizipzor> skreechmiester: lol
[21:13] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: im going for it!
[21:13] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: for future reference - look in /var/lib/dpkg/info for the package's postrm script, and edit it to remove the failing commands. It should then uninstall.
[21:13] <skreechmiester> !hi
[21:14] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: hmm, i get some warnings about untrusted versions.... proceed?
[21:14] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: that is if you get another stubborn package in the future
[21:14] <ScorpKing> yeah
[21:14] <chrisinajar> hi, so I have an altered kubuntu OS, but certain parts of our alterations keep reverting... namely the autologin, we have it set so it autologs in every time, without any choice from the end user... every once in a while when kubuntu starts it breaks autologin... and rarely, but sometimes, it removes the autologin user....
[21:15] <kushou> hi, i have a problem, it's a or an uniform ?
[21:15] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: Updates?
[21:15] <ScorpKing> chrisinajar: where is the config file cept for the outologin settings?
[21:15] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: i saved your quote there in a file of mine :) gotta keep it
[21:15] <skreechmiester> kushou: an uniform
[21:15] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: okay... so why did i do the update?
[21:15] <skreechmiester> by rights
[21:15] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: i'll remember it as well
[21:16] <skreechmiester> but a uniform will do
[21:16] <kushou> skreechmiester: thanks
[21:16] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: i just wanted to see if it will stuff around with the kernel packages again
[21:16] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: it seemed to work
[21:17] <chrisinajar> skreechmiester: no, it happens when updates don't happen..
[21:17] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: there is a program called basket wich is great for keeping notes like that
[21:17] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: btw, THANK you good sir, I owe you my OS
[21:17] <ScorpKing> !info basket
[21:17]  * mizipzor bows
[21:17] <mizipzor> ScorpKing: mhm? ill look it up!
[21:17] <ScorpKing> mizipzor: you are welcome :D
[21:17] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: The User gets deleted ?
[21:18] <skreechmiester> ScorpKing: #basket-devel
[21:18] <skreechmiester>  KDE4 coming soon!
[21:18] <ScorpKing> awesome
[21:18] <skreechmiester> They need help though
[21:18] <chrisinajar> skreechmiester: yes, as root doing su user says he doesn't exist anymore... the home directory is still there
[21:18] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: that's the case currently ?
[21:19] <ScorpKing> chrisinajar: you can have a startup command that will restore the setting at every boot
[21:19] <skreechmiester> ScorpKing: the user being deleted?
[21:19] <ScorpKing> nah
[21:19] <skreechmiester> tht should not be happening at all
[21:19]  * ScorpKing agrees..
[21:19] <chrisinajar> currently the user is deleted and autologin is broken...
[21:19] <chrisinajar> so root is the only user on it (other than the system ones)
[21:20] <skreechmiester> ScorpKing: See^^^?
[21:20] <skreechmiester> that makes no sense
[21:20] <ScorpKing> heh, another weird problem. i'm going to bed rather
[21:20] <skreechmiester> ScorpKing: Night
[21:20] <ScorpKing> lol
[21:20] <ScorpKing> nite guys
[21:20] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: who are you now?
[21:20] <chrisinajar> on another computer
[21:21] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: ok can you restart the computer and from grub choose a recovery mode
[21:22] <chrisinajar> skreechmiester: i can fix it perfectly fine, that's not the issue, the issue is that it happens...
[21:23] <chrisinajar> my clients wont want to have to fix it :-P
[21:23] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: I know I just want to see if the user is in /etc/passwd
[21:23] <chrisinajar> he's not
[21:23] <skreechmiester> if not when was the last time that file was changed
[21:23] <chrisinajar> nor is he in /etc/shadow
[21:24] <skreechmiester> When was the file changed?
[21:24] <chrisinajar> how do i find that out?
[21:25] <skreechmiester> ls -l /etc/passwd
[21:26] <chrisinajar> it was edited Feb 27th apparently...
[21:26] <skreechmiester> !_!
[21:26] <chrisinajar> which is wrong, because this use existed 3 hours ago...
[21:26] <skreechmiester> Is the time on your system correct?
[21:26] <skreechmiester> date
[21:27] <chrisinajar> yep
[21:27] <chrisinajar> it's synced to the server
[21:27] <agm> kpdf is printing documents only on 1/4 of the page. its kind of scaling it down and print is so small cant even read it.can anyone plaese help
[21:27] <skreechmiester> maybe a backup script is backing up in the wrong direction?
[21:28] <ubuntu> !backup
[21:28] <ubuntu> !cloning
[21:29] <chrisinajar> neither of those pertain to my problem
[21:30] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: what is the machine for?
[21:30] <chrisinajar> it's a laptop, used by students...
[21:30] <chrisinajar> it has a sync daemon on it that keeps all it's settings and stuff up to date with the server, it's really cool...
[21:30] <judgen> Howdy. I cant set my screen to higher than 640x480 and when i try to change with xrandr i get this.Size 1920x1080 not found in available modes.
[21:30] <chrisinajar> but these problems have existed before we wrote the sync stuff
[21:30] <skreechmiester> hrrrm
[21:31] <skreechmiester> what services does it run ?
[21:31] <judgen> Howdy. I cant set my screen to higher than 640x480 and when i try to change with xrandr i get this.Size 1920x1080 not found in available modes.
[21:31] <chrisinajar> judgen: read about how to edit your xorg.conf file, also you might not have your drivers setup right.
[21:31] <skreechmiester> judgen: xrandr -s 0
[21:32] <skreechmiester> eeepc900: Need 910 :)
[21:32] <judgen> chrisinajar: the resolution on one of the screens works perfectly. And it used to work when i set the modeline in the xorg. but ive forgotten how to do it properly.
[21:32] <skreechmiester> or 901
[21:32] <mizipzor> youtube in konqueror?
[21:32] <skreechmiester> I forget
[21:32] <judgen> &j #zevenos
[21:32] <judgen> gah
[21:34] <eeepc900> skreechmiester:  yeah i wanted a 901 after i bought this and got word that one with the atom chipset is coming out
[21:34]  * eeepc900 was pissed
[21:34] <skreechmiester> Sell me yours :)
[21:34] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: is it regular or does it randomly disappear?
[21:35] <chrisinajar> seemingly completely random
[21:35] <chrisinajar> the user is very rarely deleted, usually autologin just breaks...
[21:35] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: that almost sounds human
[21:35] <chrisinajar> i think this is only the second time the user has been completely deleted
[21:35] <skreechmiester> what normally happens?
[21:35] <chrisinajar> when nothing breaks?
[21:36] <chrisinajar> the computer turns on ad immediately logs in as "user"
[21:36] <chrisinajar> when it breaks, ir shows the kubuntu login screen, and when i look at the PID file for kdm and stuff, it doesn't match up...
[21:36] <chrisinajar> so KDM starts /totally/ wrong...
[21:36] <chrisinajar> i think it might be a kubuntu auto-config script somewhere....
[21:37] <skreechmiester> What doesn't it match ?
[21:37] <chrisinajar> the running kdm process
[21:39] <skreechmiester> so the /proc doesn't agree with the ps or top process?
[21:39] <chrisinajar> the daemon pid file that the init scripts create
[21:39] <chrisinajar> it doesn't match the running kdm process
[21:39] <chrisinajar> which tells me that something other than the init scripts started kdm
[21:40] <skreechmiester> o_O
[21:40] <skreechmiester> ok
[21:40] <skreechmiester> what version of X are you running?
[21:41] <chrisinajar> 1.3.0
[21:42] <skreechmiester> that's Xserver I assume
[21:42] <spader3d> hi all
[21:43] <spader3d> how do i open port 53 on my machine?
[21:43] <chrisinajar> define "open"
[21:43] <spader3d> DNS port allow as in nmap
[21:44] <chrisinajar> what are you trying to do?
[21:47] <genii> spader3d: You're  running a name server?
[21:47] <genii> chrisinajar: 53 is DNS
[21:47] <skreechmiester> \o/
[21:47] <skreechmiester> genii: is here
[21:48] <genii> Hi skreechmiester
[21:48]  * skreechmiester offers a large kup of koffee
[21:48] <genii> Thanks :)
[21:48] <genii> spader3d: If you have port forwarding on your router, set it up to forward that port to the internal IP of the box
[21:49] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: genii may have an inkling I have no clue what would eat users
[21:50] <genii> chrisinajar: I just got here. What was the problem description?
[21:51] <skreechmiester> genii: he has a kubuntu install autologin but the autologin randomly is ignored or the user is deleted
[21:51] <skreechmiester> chrisinajar: Is that accurate?
[21:56] <judgen> yay it works. the problem was with edid. i had forgotten about thet )(
[21:57] <antinerd> [ifrog]: do you have an idea what i could do to get a higher screen resolution?
[21:58] <[ifrog]> antinerd, Well i guess you have already tried that. (Modes line)
[21:58] <justs0me> anyone find a fix to the firefox 3 right click bug in hardy ??
[22:01] <genii> skreechmiester , chrisinajar https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/231810
[22:02] <skreechmiester> It works
[22:02] <skreechmiester> just sometimes the user is deleted
[22:02] <spader3d_2> hi again
[22:02] <spader3d_2> how do i open port 53 domain on my machine?
[22:03] <genii> skreechmiester: I found another older bug report of Debian on this also. The user no matter the name is logged in as root
[22:03] <genii> spader3d_2: By making it a name server
[22:04] <spader3d_2> how? i need to see it in nmap localhost as open
[22:04] <testi> I'm trying to get internet to run on an asus eee but neither does wlan nor ethernet work
[22:04] <DaskReecH> genii: The user is removed from /etc/passwd
[22:04] <genii> DaskReecH: Thats definitely no good
[22:05] <DaskReecH> genii: tell me about it
[22:05] <genii> spader3d_2: Ask them in #ubuntu-server channel how to set up a name server, not here
[22:05] <DaskReecH> The user was ok 3 days ago
[22:05] <DaskReecH> today they don't exist in either /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow
[22:06] <DaskReecH> which say they were lastmodified in Feb
[22:07] <DaskReecH> My thoughts are a backup script moving in the wrng direction
[22:08] <Illusioneer> Hey, has anybody had a problem with Kub8/KDE4 where the set video size won't stay?  I set it to 1600/1050 and each time it starts up it goes back to 800/600
[22:08] <DaskReecH> #Kubuntu-kde4
[22:08] <Illusioneer> thanks
[22:10] <antinerd> [ifrog]: what have i tried? i tried several different modelines in xorg.conf if you meant that?
[22:10] <[ifrog]> yes..
[22:12] <Illusioneer> also, for 8.04, why doesn't the systemsettings applet for network allow me to set DHCP/static?
[22:14] <antinerd> yes i tried screen resolutions from 1024x768 to 640x480, but if i add a modeline in xorg.conf i cant start kdm again, even if i change the driver from vesa to via or openchrome(wich i get suggested from systemsettings)
[22:20] <Illusioneer> also I have noticed that the font of the Menu bar on various apps is really huge but the Desktop/Appearnce applet has no apparent ability to change this
[22:25] <LiNuxBaBe> when I try to install kubuntu I get immidiatly err 2 ip 1B31 16C25.e  Is there anyone who knows what this error means..?
[22:26] <nuxil> LiNuxBaBe, during netconfigutarion?
[22:27] <LiNuxBaBe> no even before that
[22:28] <LiNuxBaBe> I can't even start with the installation nuxil
[22:28] <nuxil> is : err 2 ip 1B31 16C25.e all you get?
[22:28] <LiNuxBaBe> yes
[22:28] <nuxil> LiNuxBaBe, aha
[22:29] <nuxil> LiNuxBaBe, how did you try to install? did you boot up the live cd first or did you go directly to install
[22:31] <LiNuxBaBe> I don't get a live cd nuxil
[22:31] <LiNuxBaBe> he gives a black screen with that error
[22:32] <nuxil> !alternative
[22:46] <dhendu9411> i am trying to setup two monitors in kubuntu and are getting the following message "(ww) intel: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found", but I have the declartion 'BusID "PCI:0:2:1'" in a device section
[22:47] <dhendu9411> any help would greatly be appreciated
[22:56] <timo> I don't have sound in kubuntu 8.04 hardy, any ideas?
[22:56] <timo> I found out that PulseAudio is not running (doesn't show in the system monitor)
[22:57] <nuxil> !sound
[22:58] <dhendu9411> i guess i am out of luck with help with the monitor situation.  I do have another problem however.  There seems to be two sound cards being detected, how can I remove the phony one?
[22:59] <nuxil> dhendu9411,
[23:00] <nuxil> 2 monitors with 1 card or 2 monitors on 2 cards?
[23:00] <dhendu9411> its a laptop with a built-in graphics card that also has monitor out.  So I think its just 1 card with 2 outputs and two monitors
[23:01] <timo> There is no checkbox that says "Enable the sound system" in Sound System settings here
[23:01] <dhendu9411> nuxil: although I get two listings in lspci
[23:03] <nuxil> dhendu9411, try add 2 monitor sections. and 2 driver sections to your xorg file
[23:03] <nuxil> screen prolly aswell
[23:04] <nuxil> timo, if youre on kde3 sure it is..
[23:05] <dhendu9411> nuxil: i have tried two device and monitor sections, but it is still giving me the warning
[23:07] <nuxil> dhendu9411, maybe you using wrong driver on the other card
[23:07] <dhendu9411> nuxil: in the lspci they are both listed as the same just with different bus ID's
[23:07] <dhendu9411> i am using the i810 driver
[23:09] <dhendu9411> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile...
[23:09] <dhendu9411> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile...
[23:09] <nuxil> dhendu9411 maybe google got some info
[23:11] <dhendu9411> i have looked at several sources for multiple monitor support
[23:11] <dhendu9411> i will see what i can come up with for integrated graphics cards
[23:12] <n8k99> what's teh kubuntu kde4 channel called?
[23:12] <n8k99> nevermind i found it i think
[23:12] <nuxil> dhendu9411, have you tried making 2 xorg files . you can try that,, then startup X with the other conf on ex Disp 1.. i dont rember exactly how to,, but man Xorg should tell you how to use spesified configs
[23:13] <nuxil> startx -- :1 -my other conf
[23:13] <genii> n8k99: #kubuntu-kde4
[23:14] <n8k99> thanks genii i foun dit
[23:16] <timo> nuxil: I've found it (using kcontrol), and it was checked...
[23:17] <timo> now I discovered that the driver for my audio device (Intel ICH8 family) is not listed on alsa-project.org... :S
[23:17] <dhendu9411> nuxil: thanks I will give that a try
[23:18] <timo> what should i do now?
[23:18] <agustin> join chanel
[23:23] <timo> going to bed now, will try again later...
[23:23] <testi> I can't find "Energiekontrolle" in kcontrol. What's missing?
[23:38] <sebastian_> im trying to find this in Ghex 0x130BB5: but i dont know how to change the value, and where do i search?
[23:40] <sebastian_> how do i open a folder as root then?
[23:40] <sebastian_> with dolphin
[23:41] <nuxil> kdesu dolphin
[23:41] <sebastian_> thx
[23:41] <sebastian_> command not found
[23:44] <unclean> Hey I'm not really sure how but I had 20gb of free space last night now i have 1.6 and getting error messages talking about dsk space
[23:48] <unclean> anyone know what can be taking up the most space?
[23:49] <Michael> how to decrease brightness on sony vaio vgn nr110e?


[04:02] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:06] <Bashing-om> \o - lotuspsychje // Hoz vacation going ? What's up in London ?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om how r you?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: london was amazing, what a city...
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: has been like 18 years i went to london, has been changed into a big trendy metropol
[04:11] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: London a tourist trap now ? Are ya back home already ?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: yeah tourist trap indeed! yeah tomorrow i have to go work again
[04:15] <Bashing-om> Back to the ole grind ... the familiar routine :)
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> but i wanna change, and build down working day
[04:21] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: ^^ And pay rent on the domicle, eat; pay utilities --- and build computers :)
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> yesss
[04:23] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: :) .. - and not punch someone elses time clock  -
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: thats exactly what i dont need anymore
[04:29] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I took that step some time back .. I like it that way !
[06:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks


[02:29] <Frank81> NikTh:  thx a lot
[02:29] <Frank81> it does the job realy realy great
[18:59] <EratoTiaTuatha> Hello everyone, I have w problem connecting to wifi on a fresh Lubuntu 13.10 install. I weould very much appreciate some general directions on where to look for solutions, I'll be happy to do the rest of problem solving on my own but I have no idea where to start.
[18:59] <TheMaster> EratoTiaTuatha: What device ?  lspci will tell.
[19:01] <EratoTiaTuatha> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 801.11b/g LP-PHY. I tried setting up a connection in the settings but I can't seem to make it connect.
[19:01] <holstein> !broadcom
[19:02] <TheMaster> Ninja'd.  LP-PHY.
[19:02] <holstein> EratoTiaTuatha: you'll need to add the support for that.. the "easy" way is to refer to the link there ^ ahd find what package you need, and use a wired connection to install it
[19:02] <holstein> TheMaster: :)
[19:03] <EratoTiaTuatha> Thank you very much! I thought it could be the drivers. I'll look into it right now and see how it works :)
[19:03] <TheMaster> If you can plug a network cable in, you can use "Additional Drivers" to install them.
[19:04] <holstein> even easier!
[19:04] <EratoTiaTuatha> I'll have to find a cable for that so it'll take a while, but I'll try it now :)
[19:45] <EratoTiaTuatha> After some time looking for the cable I got it to work, many thanks for help again! :)
[19:45] <TheMaster> Sure!
[21:38] <Xgates> hi guys
[21:39] <Xgates> Having some sort of fonts issue in Xchat; http://i.imgur.com/CmEKqhY.png never seen anything like this before, also in Ubuntu 13.10
[21:39] <Xgates> what's the problem with this?
[21:45] <Xgates> anyone here can lend a hand?
[21:52] <TheMaster> What's the font set as?  Also, `locale`?
[21:56] <Xgates> I got it had to put it on ssl
[21:56] <Xgates> weird
[21:57] <TheMaster> Quite, though I'd recommend SSL for other reasons.  I'll blame xchat being weird, but I don't know the application.
[22:20] <Xgates> thx again I'm out...


[11:01] <Slaan> Hi !
[11:03] <Slaan> I use MAAS 1.7 and juju
[11:03] <Slaan> All work fine, it's magic :)
[11:03] <Slaan> i have one machine with maas, and one node bootstrapped by juju
[11:04] <Slaan> and all work fine
[11:04] <Slaan> i want to add a new node now. Maas can show it, and the commissioning is fine
[11:04] <Slaan> did u know how can i add it to juju now ?
[11:05] <Slaan> i don't find it when i lauche "juju status"
[11:05] <Slaan> launch*
[11:06] <Slaan> if i start "juju add-machine negligible-band.maas", i got " error: malformed container argument "negligible-band.maas""
[11:07] <Slaan> and for "juju add-machine ssh:negligible-band.maas", i got : " ERROR rc: 255 (ssh: Could not resolve hostname negligible-band.maas: Name or service not known) "
[11:42] <Slaan> ok i found. Just "juju add-machine" and boot it :)
[14:07] <blake_r> Slaan: glad you figured it out, let me know if you have any other questions
[17:44] <sbtechcom> anyone have experience running maas with HP blade nodes? I can't seem to get maas to recognize the logical drives from the hp smart array
[18:13] <sbtechcom> Nobody?
[18:55] <newell> sbtechcom, MAAS supports HP iLO but not sure about HP smart array
[18:58] <sbtechcom> gotcha, so that pretty well rules out all HP blades and enterprise servers...
[18:59] <designated> If I update a user provided preseed in the format of "{prefix}_{node_architecture}_{node_subarchitecture}_{release}_{node_name}", should those changes be reflected immediately within the maas GUI by viewing that node's preseed?
[18:59] <sbtechcom> to my understanding anyways.. have to check to see if they have a direct controller that doesn't do raid
[19:00] <jhobbs> sbtechcom: is this hpvsa or hpdsa or something?
[19:03] <sbtechcom> it's using hpwdt driver right now
[19:04] <sbtechcom> nm
[19:04] <sbtechcom> that's the ilo... still looking
[19:05] <sbtechcom> cciss driver is being used on the controller array. This is all default MaaS. I have a feeling I need to do some modifications to load the correct drivers to talk to lvm but am really not sure now to go about doing it
[19:17] <sbtechcom> this any help as to what is happening? Stderr: u'lsblk: /dev/cciss!c0d1: not a block device\n'
[19:18] <sbtechcom> looks like some sort of enumeration error when listing out devices from the cciss driver
[19:30] <designated> does anyone have a few minutes to help me figure out why my user provided preseeds aren't working in MAAS 1.7?
[19:31] <jhobbs> designated: you may need to restart apache, i don't recall
[19:31] <jhobbs> sbtechcom: where would lvm be coming into play?
[19:33] <jhobbs> designated: looks like the pattern is now {prefix}_{osystem}_{node_arch}_{node_subarch}_{release}_{node_name}
[19:35] <designated> jhobbs: where did you find that documentation?  http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs1.7/development/preseeds.html shows something different
[19:35] <jhobbs> in the code :(
[19:35] <jhobbs> doc is out of date, submitting a patch right now
[19:36] <designated> great...bitten again by shitty documentation. :/
[19:36] <designated> jhobbs: thank you for your help.
[19:37] <sbtechcom> gotcha, so I used the debian installer to deploy a node and I don't get that error so I am not sure if it actually relates to how the information is discovered by maas
[19:38] <jhobbs> sbtechcom: where exactly are you seeing that error? and when?
[19:38] <jhobbs> designated: you're welcome
[19:39] <designated> jhobbs: do you know the syntax for {osystem}?
[19:39] <jhobbs> i think it's just 'ubuntu'
[19:39] <jhobbs> ubuntu
[19:39] <sbtechcom> jhobbs: that error occurs when acquiring and starting a node using the fast installer, using the debian installer I don't get the error.
[19:39] <jhobbs> blake_r: ^^ ?
[19:41] <sbtechcom> real issue here is that MaaS does not see two disks so the openstack installer in landscape won't accept the nodes as valid
[19:45] <bladernr_> Hey, where's the documentation on adding custom images?  I've been looking at the CLI reference at mass.ubuntu for trunk and 1.7 and can't find anything
[19:47] <sbtechcom> jhobbs: once I have ubuntu loaded on the node Ubuntu (on the actual node) sees both disks just fine, MaaS still does not list them however and lists that same error in the installation log
[19:49] <thebozz> Hey guys, I'm having a very weird problem comissioning some servers into our cluster.
[19:49] <designated> if anyone is interested, I finally got the user provided preseeds to update in MAAS 1.7 by using the following: preseed_master_ubuntu_amd64_generic_trusty_{hostname}.{domain}
[19:51] <designated> commissioning or enlist no longer appear to be valid prefixes
[19:51] <designated> but I may be wrong about that one, it didn't work for me
[19:52] <thebozz> Our whole cluster is connected to a dedicated switch. Most of our machines are comissioned just fine, but  two of them fail every time. However, if they're connected *directly* (that is, not by the switch, but directly NIC to NIC by a single cable) they comission just fine. We tried different cables and switch ports, but it didn't work. What mystifies me the most is that the other machines work. What could be causing this?
[19:53] <jhobbs> thebozz: does you switch have STP enabled?
[19:54] <jhobbs> thebozz: sometimes it delays a port coming up long enough to prevent pxe boot from working
[19:54] <roadmr> ^^ but in that case they also wouldn't enlist, right?
[19:54] <jhobbs>  yeah i don't see why it'd be different for commissioning vs enlistment
[19:55] <jhobbs> maybe they enlisted manually
[19:55] <roadmr> oh that may be...
[19:55] <thebozz> Dunno the answer to that, let me ask.
[20:03] <thebozz> jhobbs: with STP you mean 'spanning tree protocol'?
[20:04] <jhobbs> yea
[20:04] <thebozz> Yep, it's enabled.
[20:04] <jhobbs> i bet that's the problem
[20:05] <jhobbs> you can either configure the nodes to only pxe boot, and to retry after a failure
[20:05] <thebozz> Alright! I'll turn it off and try again.
[20:05] <jhobbs> in their bios
[20:05] <jhobbs> or yeah turn it off or enable portfast
[20:05] <jhobbs> sbtechcom: so i'm not really sure what's going on for you- can you file a bug?
[20:07] <thebozz> Haha same suggestion I'm getting at ##networking.
[20:07] <thebozz> Which would be best?
[20:08] <sbtechcom> jhobbs: I can, thanks for your help!
[20:12] <roadmr> thebozz: hehe that's probably a question for your network admin, if he needs STP, then you need to configure the retry. If STP is not needed, disabling it would be easier as there's no per-node config to do
[20:13] <thebozz> I will talk to him then, and check what he thinks is best. The switch is dedicated to the cluster, so whatever we do won't affect the rest of the network anyway.
[20:19] <jhobbs> STP is funny like that - if it's disabled and you create a loop it can very well bring down the rest of the network
[20:19]  * jhobbs has done it before
[20:23] <thebozz> It worked! jhobbs, you da man!
[20:25] <jhobbs> thebozz: hooray!
[20:32] <thebozz> BTW, we're having another issue with how MAAS detects hard drives... it only shows the capacity of the first drive on each machine. We set each drive on a single-drive RAID0... did we mess up?
[20:33] <jhobbs> thebozz: what version of MAAS are you using? even very recent MAAS versions have issues detecting storage correctly
[20:37] <thebozz> 1.7.0
[20:38] <jhobbs> yeah so - 1.7.1 should fix that
[20:39] <thebozz> BTW, what does it mean if it doesn't detect the storage size correctly? Will we not be able to use that storage?
[20:39] <roaksoax> thebozz: it is just an issue of display, not really underlying
[20:40] <roadmr> will it be an issue if you want to deploy to a node with X storage (juju deploy --constraints="disk=XXX") and maas doesn't think the node fits the constraint?
[20:40] <thebozz> Alright, seems we're good to go.
[20:41] <jhobbs> roadmr: yeah that too
[20:41] <jhobbs> one can work around it by setting storage size for nodes manually though
[20:41] <roadmr> yes, that's true
[20:41] <roaksoax> yup
[20:41] <roaksoax> but after upgrade to 1.7.1
[20:41] <roaksoax> you should just be able to recommission
[20:41] <roaksoax> and that's it
[20:41] <roaksoax> I'll be releasing 1.7.1rc1 in ~30 mins
[20:43] <roadmr> \o/ cool!
[20:43] <thebozz> Last question: is it acceptable to just put every disk in its own single-drive RAID0? We couldn't get some machines to detect the drives unless we did that.
[20:46] <jhobbs> thebozz: that should be fine
[21:24] <thebozz> jhobbs, are you still there? I need your magic powers again...
[21:24] <jhobbs> hi thebozz
[21:24] <thebozz> Hi, long time no see, haha.
[21:26] <thebozz> So we comissioned the whole cluster without a hitch, then tried to deploy OpenStack on top of it. My boss says he used the automatic deployment (whatever that means, I wasn't involved in the installation). After a while, it says "A fatal error has occurred: Problem with juju bootstrap." The commands.log file says this about it: http://pastebin.com/JFC02xyn
[21:28] <thebozz> Sorry, forgot to enter the captcha before sending the link. If you couldn't open it try now.
[21:30] <jhobbs> thebozz: that node should have an install log in MAAS - can you have a look at it there and see what it says?
[21:30] <jhobbs> thebozz: also i'd recommend trying out deploy nodes manually with maas before using juju/openstack installer, just to make sure the maas layer is working fine
[21:31] <thebozz> The log doesn't contain any errors, but I copied it anyway: http://pastebin.com/zKi32etS
[21:34] <jhobbs> can you ssh into the system yourself?
[21:37] <thebozz> Nope, seems it turned itself off.
[21:38] <thebozz> Yeah, the server's off.
[21:39] <jhobbs> so if i were you i would check maas by itself first - make sure you can deploy nodes and ssh into them
[21:40] <jhobbs> then check juju & maas - make sure you can bootstrap with it
[21:40] <jhobbs> then move onto openstack
[21:46] <thebozz> Nope. I tried acquiring and starting two nodes - the one from before and another, and I can't SSH into any of them.
[21:48] <thebozz> The first one shows pretty much the same install log as before. The second one, however, says this: http://pastebin.com/p8ufNY2L
[21:54] <thebozz> Gotta go now. I'll take a better look at this tomorrow and check if I can understand this better.
[22:04] <marcoceppi> Hello, I don't see boot-sources anymore in the 1.7 maas.
[22:04] <marcoceppi> what was this replaced with?
[23:40] <designated> Does anyone know what I need to put in the preseed to answer NO to "The partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. This partition should be marked for use as “Reserved BIOS boot area” and should be at least 1 MB in size."


[01:03]  * Cheesehe1d scratches
[01:08] <Cheesehead> Hooray! My next Brainstorm Top 10 is scheduled for Sept 27
[01:08] <Cheesehead> Only three months late...
[15:33] <twopoint718> d4ftd: hello
[15:34] <h00k> hi!
[15:34] <h00k> bah.
[15:34] <h00k> I'm late.
[16:45] <twopoint718> haha


[00:01] <wgrant> mwhudson: Publisher isn't, but non-x86 builds are
[00:02] <mwhudson> ah and as soon as i complain my (ppa) package gets published
[22:39] <jeremy31> Looks like a lot of spam reported on launchpad.net/launchpad