 maybe there is NetworkManager plugin then?
 Has anyone managed to get the OPO to conect to wireless display?
 @UniversalSuperBox, blog this adventure in detail! ;)
 @wayneoutthere, +1
 Good morning ,  … In the list of language , I cannot find  Arabic language , why ?
 Walid, can you send me a bunch of pictures of Ubuntu Touch on your G3?
 @sudanisayfree, you cant? we will fix if thats true and thanks
 oh...... there seems to maybe be problem.... with welcome page. what device and browser are you on, curious?
 I like the blog-post style community updates the best
 because I can see what things are coming for my device right away
 Good day guys. I want to create a container in Ubuntu touch Nexus 5 but getting following error
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 does anyone know what is going on ?
 @Distanger seems like you are not connected to the internet
 @TronFortyTwo Oh yeah turns out to be that my WiFi was not working
 I have been using UT for a few days now but the OS works great, and a lot of useful apps.a
 @TronFortyTwo Thanks a lot :D
 @Distanger, np👍
 i have 2 questions: … can i safely delete my ubuntu one account now after we've changed the store and push server? … can i synchronize my contacts with nextcloud (carddav)?
 I think the push Server still uses the Ubuntu one Login
 okay. thank you
 what about carddav though? that's the only thing that stops me from using it as a daily driver :P
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 how can you rotate the screen if sensor isn't working?
 is there a way to enable keyboard vibration?
[10:04] <tgBot1> <Thoralf Sann> @vanyasem, Lanuage settings
[10:05] <tgBot1> <Thoralf Sann> Language
 oh my vibrator is broken
[10:06] <tgBot1> <Thoralf Sann> 🙁
 it's located on the case and my case it loose, so it gets disconnected from time to time
 @vanyasem, pretty sure working. definitely cal dav stuff working but i cannot confirm contacts.  there is a ubuntu touch cloud focusued (mainly nextcloud) group.
 caldav is working, yeah
 i need carddav with nextcloud, couldn't find an option
 could you link me to that group
 UBports Clouds … https://t.me/UBports_Cloudsters
 ty wayne
 np
 ok, after fixing SELinux issue Wi-Fi can be activated
 I can't rotate screen or start browser though
 how can I debug if rotation sensor is picked up at all?
[12:53] <bshah> test_sensors?
 it works on Hybris side
 https://bpaste.net/show/fc0f390e9257
 well, technically locking landscape will be even better, since you wouldn't want to use keyboard device in portrait mode
 Feb  4 12:35:45 ubuntu-phablet pulseaudio[2818]: [pulseaudio] module-droid-discover.c: Unsupported Android version 7.1.1 … Feb  4 12:35:45 ubuntu-phablet pulseaudio[2818]: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-droid-discover" (argument: "voice_virtual_stream=true"): initialization failed.
 what that module is for?
[13:00] <bshah> module-droid-discover is basically wrapper around module-droid-card
[13:00] <bshah> it can load different versioned -card module based on android version
[13:00] <bshah> trick to use single pulseaudio build for multiple devices
 so I theory I can just compile https://github.com/mer-hybris/pulseaudio-modules-droid for mine device?
[13:02] <bshah> in theory yes
[13:02] <bshah> in practice no
[13:03] <bshah> reason being pulseaudio in ubuntu is not patched to provide dev headers
 you did it for Plasma though?
[13:05] <bshah> no well I've a hack to load -card-22 module directly insteaed of discover
[13:05] <bshah> you can modify touch.pa
[13:05] <bshah> which in theory works fine with android 7
 https://github.com/ubports/pulseaudio-packaging/blob/9ef5a821f8b16e17599861c834998917478a6795/debian/patches/0902-install_pulsecore_headers.patch
[13:07] <bshah> ah
[13:07] <bshah> right yeah
 Feb  4 13:09:57 ubuntu-phablet pulseaudio[2881]: [pulseaudio] droid-util.c: [/vendor/etc/audio_policy.conf:28] failed to parse line - unknown field (global_configuration)
 I guess pulseaudio-modules-droid is still too old
[13:11] <bshah> yep.. mariogrip did manage to upgrade it locally earlier
[13:11] <bshah> but oh well
 then I should probably ask @mariogrip before trying to repeat this
 @UniversalSuperBox, with UT vivid or xenial ?
 @Walid, Either
 I've just meet tobias bernard after his talk @ fosdem about animation and all. He didnt know that qml can actualy already being able to implement his idea. He is activ in the GNOME project but he might be someone to reach during design thinking about unity8
 @arudy, nice work.  @neothethird ?
 what what
 Note: He also said that gnome take him a lot of time. But i left him with someone with an ubuntu hat that was explaining the nested and stated thing in qml
 Where can I find a UT lockscreen source code ?
 @tydell, somewhere in https://github.com/ubports/unity8
 thanks
 @neothethird, saw unity8 and you came to my heart.
 How can i install anbox? is the 'apt install anbox' method  the best installation method?
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
 Thanks :)
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 Fwd from maharudra108: Anyone know ubuntu touch compatible kernel for bq 4.5
 Or for any mtk device
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 @maharudra108, Don't post the same thing in multiple groups at the same time please
 Both grps are different nahh!!
 Was curious about what driver / chipset the WiFi has on my M10. Tried dmesg but didn't see anything. How would one check?
 @padraic7a, Use Device info app from playstore
 It will give u info abt drivers
 👍
 @maharudra108, Play Store is probably not the best thing to recommend on Ubuntu Touch without Anbox :/
 I thought you meant the OpenStore - I'm using an ubports tablet!
 @padraic7a, Oops then don't know
 @JBBgameich, Sorry i thought he is using android nd want to know his drivers for kernel
 Aida64 would possibly have worked... Doesn't seem to be available now
 I linked the click in chat once, but is propritory see we cant transfer to new store
 Hmm, I will post a request on their forum later when I have a chance.
 Anyone here an idea how I could do a phone call on my UT device using my computer's mic and speakers? :D
 Quick question: When UBports is ported via Halium, do any device-specific changes need to be made to the UBports image itself?
 @zoomer296, The ideal situation is Halium standard config files which we translate into our own configs
 Whether or not that's possible................... that's for me to try to figure out I guess
 @padraic7a, You could try standard tools like `lspci` or `lsusb`, but I don't think they'll return anything since Android is interfacing with that hardware.
 Those commands don't work.  … Ah, I thought android was probably just over the GSM / 4g / whatever portion of the hardware..
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 ok, tnx
 @UniversalSuperBox, Will this be worked on when 16.04 is ready? I love the Fairphone and I love UT, but I hate 15 reboots/day...
 Reports say it's a problem on Fairphone's own Android, too.
 @bhdouglass, Darn i will have to wait to upload all those life-changing apps I wrote
 @wayneoutthere, did you make a webapp for ismycomputeronfire.com
 No! But it sounds like my style
 I had spontaneous reboots on Android, true, but not that often and not that reproducable...
 I think I wrote the first webapp - (minus) app
 @DanChapman Dekko2 has no translations yet?
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[15:00] <bac> #startmeeting
[15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is bac.
[15:00] <bac> hello and welcome to the mostly-weekly reviewers meeting
[15:00] <bac> who is here today?
[15:01] <sinzui> me
[15:01] <abentley> me
[15:01] <bac> danilos, bigjools, gary_poster, gmb: ping
[15:02] <gary_poster> me and pinging...
[15:02] <bac> EdwinGrubbs, noodles775, jelmer, mars: ping
[15:02] <danilos> me
[15:02] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[15:03] <bac> danilos: can you round up your team?
[15:03] <danilos> bac, only henning is around but seems to not have come back from lunch
[15:04] <bac> BjornT: are you interested in attending?  if so i'll continue to ping you.  let me know.
[15:04] <noodles775> me
[15:04] <gary_poster> for me team, I pinged leonardr and mars, and salgado is out
[15:04] <gary_poster> s/me/my/
[15:05] <bigjools> me
[15:05] <bac> allenap: ping
[15:05] <bac> [topic] agenda
[15:05] <allenap> me
[15:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  agenda
[15:05] <mars> me
[15:05] <bac> * Roll call
[15:05] <bac>  * Agenda
[15:05] <bac>  * Outstanding actions
[15:05] <bac>  * Mentoring update
[15:05] <bac>  * New topics
[15:05] <bac>    * Multiline parameter lists in function definitions vs. function calls [hennnige, jtv]
[15:05] <bac>    * Reduction of negation preferred over "common case first" in if statements? [henninge, jtv]
[15:05] <bac>    * Should doctests only be testable documentation? [abentley]
[15:05] <bac>  * Peanut gallery
[15:05] <bac> [topic] outstanding actions
[15:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  outstanding actions
[15:06] <bac> [topic] * bac to restart discussion on community reviewer/committers after feedback from elmo
[15:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  * bac to restart discussion on community reviewer/committers after feedback from elmo
[15:06] <bac> i (just barely) did this item by sending an email to the internal list this morning.  i hope we can have a good discussion there and come to a concensus.
[15:07] <bac> [topic] mentoring update
[15:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  mentoring update
[15:07] <wgrant> For those of us playing at home, what was the 'feedback from elmo'?
[15:07] <bac> hi wgrant
[15:07] <noodles775> Regarding the mentoring update, jelmer is doing well - holidays this week though :)
[15:08] <bac> wgrant: elmo shared the opinion of others that since launchpad is a service with the obligation to protect our user's private data we cannot allow community code contributions to go into the tree that automatically rolls to edge without a Canonical-employee review
[15:09] <wgrant> bac: OK. Thanks.
[15:09] <bac> wgrant: i'd like to get your feelings on the matter off-line whenever you have time.
[15:10] <bac> noodles775: thanks for the update
[15:10] <bac> [topic] * Should doctests only be testable documentation? [abentley]
[15:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Should doctests only be testable documentation? [abentley]
[15:10]  * bac going out of order since henninge is not here
[15:10]  * noodles775 sits back a bit.
[15:11] <abentley> I had gotten the impression that we had a consensus that doctests should be testable documentation, and everything else should be unit tests.
[15:11] <bigjools> there seems to be some confusion on what testable documentation really is
[15:12] <abentley> bigjools, could you expand?
[15:12] <bac> does testable documentation live in 'doc' directories or is anything that uses the doctest framework?
[15:12] <bigjools> I was hoping you would :)
[15:13] <bigjools> abentley: depending on who I speak to they all have a different idea of what constitutes documentation, so I think we need to carefully define what we want to document
[15:13] <danilos> I'd say "minimal test that demonstrates how API is used" would be classified as documentation
[15:13] <abentley> Perhaps definitions are part of the problem.
[15:13] <gary_poster> "minimal"?
[15:13] <danilos> heh, they most certainly are
[15:13] <danilos> yes, minimal, at least imho
[15:13] <abentley> My definition would be a work whose contents were primarily descriptive, but contained examples of how to do things.
[15:14] <gary_poster> perhaps it would be better to specify an audience?
[15:14] <gary_poster> or...
[15:14] <bac> minimal in the sense that real doc tests should test all corner cases
[15:14] <gary_poster> s/better/helpful/
[15:14] <abentley> Basically, something I might see in a reference book.
[15:14] <bigjools> maybe we have use cases for different types of doc tests
[15:14] <bac> er s/should/should NOT/
[15:14] <noodles775> +1 for abentley's def.
[15:14] <gary_poster> bac, danilos, ack
[15:15] <bigjools> so yes +1 for abentley's as one type, but also it's sometimes useful to see test cases written in a narrative style
[15:15] <abentley> A counterexample would be a work that contained mainly tests, and showed numerouse ways that the API would fail.
[15:15] <gary_poster> agree with bigjools, but worried about how to delineate
[15:16] <danilos> there are also corner cases which are tested with a single line of code but need a lot of narrative
[15:16] <gary_poster> fine with abentley's general approach
[15:16] <abentley> bigjools, many things are useful that are not, on balance, worthwhile.
[15:16] <sinzui> abentley, I prefer your definition. In the view examples you cited, I think base and mixins need documentation since we expect engineers to reuse the view. but most views that get their forms exercised are better tested in unittest
[15:16] <abentley> AIUI, doctests are much slower than unit tests.
[15:17] <abentley> I find they are also fragile.
[15:17] <bigjools> actually they can be much quicker
[15:17] <bigjools> since the db is not reset between tests
[15:18] <danilos> again, it's a matter of drawing the lines, and I am positive we can't do it here (anybody remembers actual pagetest stories, or series of stories?)
[15:18] <sinzui> abentley, doctests are faster because they reuse data instead of setting up for each test.
[15:18] <sinzui> abentley, conversely, adding to a doctest can be painful
[15:19] <abentley> Anyhow, our definition of "testable documentation" doesn't matter unless we agree that our doctests should be testable documentation.
[15:19] <danilos> and agreeing doesn't matter unless we all consider it a same (or well, similar enough) thing ;)
[15:19] <abentley> I've looked at the test style guide and it definitely doesn't recommend one style over another.
[15:20] <abentley> But I need to know whether I should be watching for doctests that aren't documentation in my reviews.
[15:20] <bigjools> I consider an ideal doctest as one that describes to me how I should drive the object it's documenting
[15:21] <henninge> me ;)
[15:21] <sinzui> bigjools, I agree
[15:21] <bigjools> anything else distracts
[15:21] <danilos> I think you should, but there're also many old tests
[15:21] <abentley> bigjools, that sounds somewhat compatible with what I was saying.
[15:21] <danilos> for any new one: request it; for old ones, suggest it
[15:22] <bigjools> maybe we need a second doctest dir "unit-doc" and move the old crappy tests into it
[15:22] <bigjools> then we have a target to clean up
[15:22] <bigjools> I figure most of them are soyuz :)
[15:22] <danilos> bigjools, +1 (on everything except the name)
[15:22] <sinzui> bigjools, abentley I think the distinction is that the documentation may not be in doc/ if is for a non intrerface
[15:22] <abentley> bigjools, but a component of "testable documentation" would be prevalence of text, rather than just tests interspersed with a few words.
[15:23] <bigjools> sinzui: +1, that's what I was suggesting a few minutes ago
[15:23] <bigjools> abentley: we could keep that style, just not put it in "doc"
[15:23] <abentley> sinzui, when you say Interface, do you mean the zope construct?
[15:24] <sinzui> abentley, the tests in doc/ should be about what is defined in interfaces/
[15:25] <bigjools> totally
[15:25] <abentley> sinzui, it seems to me that there are items which are not defined there which are useful.
[15:25] <abentley> For example, the job runner.
[15:25] <sinzui> doc/tales.txt for example
[15:25] <abentley> Or the direct branch committer.
[15:26] <bigjools> it's obvious to me that we need more than one "doc" directory
[15:26] <gary_poster> I think "documenting interfaces" is a subset of abentley's "reference documentation for developers"
[15:26] <sinzui> When I document a view mixin, I expect it to be in browser/tests or browser/doc
[15:27] <abentley> It would seem silly to document IRunnableJob and not the ways of using it, for example.
[15:27]  * sinzui never understood why lp/<app>/tests is where all unittests go except for browser/tests
[15:28] <abentley> sinzui, actually, ours usually go in lp/code/model/tests
[15:28] <sinzui> abentley, I know, and that violates the flacoste rules for the apocalypse
[15:29]  * sinzui had actually written migrater rules to put tests below the implementation class
[15:30] <bigjools> can we drive to a solution here, or do we need to take this to the list?
[15:30] <abentley> Okay, so how do we move this discussion forward?
[15:30] <bigjools> I am thinking list
[15:30] <sinzui> we talk about this 3 times a year
[15:30] <noodles775> lol
[15:31] <bigjools> because we never agree on anything :)
[15:31] <bac> I don't think we're going to come to a decision here.
[15:31] <sinzui> there will be no consensus, We need a dictator
[15:31] <danilos> I say *somebody* go and define it; BjornT claimed to be interested in the past
[15:31]  * bigjools steps up
[15:31] <bac> So it is take it to the list again
[15:31]  * sinzui wants a doctest-> unittest converter though
[15:31] <bigjools> +1k
[15:31] <danilos> bigjools: dictate! :)
[15:31] <bigjools> danilos: clean my shoes
[15:31] <danilos> sinzui, we've got one, it's called "sinzui"
[15:32] <sinzui> bac: why the list, why not ask that we read all the previous threads
[15:32] <bigjools> lmao
[15:32] <danilos> bigjools, anyone, you heard the dictator :)
[15:32] <bac> sinzui: hmmm, good point
[15:33] <danilos> no lists, no discussions, somebody who cares enough go ahead and define the policy, put it in the wiki and we'll start pointing people at it in our reviews
[15:33] <gary_poster> sigh
[15:33] <gary_poster> what, did I say something?  don't mind me. :-)
[15:33] <sinzui> I think this discussion has been productive. abentley and bigjools provided good definition of documentation and I think all of us can find doctests that fail that definition
[15:34] <bigjools> this is important enough to gather more opinions please
[15:34] <noodles775> sinzui: +1
[15:34] <danilos> we'll get opinion as we build the policy
[15:34] <danilos> s/opinion/opinions/
[15:34] <bigjools> does else anyone want to create a second doctest dir to shove all the non-interface documentation into?
[15:35] <danilos> we can even create a standard topic in this meeting to discuss what has come up during reviews last week
[15:35] <sinzui> We are an open source project now, we do not need democracy, we want leadership via meritocracy.
[15:35] <bigjools> or the other way, make a new one to put the interface docs in
[15:35] <abentley> Is there anyone against the idea of requiring that new doctests are testable documnetation?
[15:35] <danilos> bigjools, I don't mind
[15:35] <danilos> sinzui, +1
[15:35] <sinzui> abentley, +1
[15:36] <bigjools> yes, provided there's a written definition of what that is
[15:36] <bigjools> but you said it earlier so c&p is fine
[15:36] <noodles775> abentley: +1, and even a strong push that when updating current doctests, converting them.
[15:36] <gary_poster> fine with me
[15:36] <bac> ok, so it *does* sound like we're coming to an agreement
[15:37] <noodles775> s/current doctests/current doctests that are not documentation
[15:37] <bac> I will take the item of collecting the thoughts and making a first draft of the new policy on the wiki, for us to refine later.
[15:37] <danilos> (I'd say we've always had a majority agreement on high-level points, we just never implemented that agreement into policy)
[15:37] <danilos> bac, thanks a lot!
[15:37] <abentley> bac, thank you.
[15:37] <bac> [action] bac to define new doctest policy.
[15:37] <MootBot> ACTION received:  bac to define new doctest policy.
[15:38] <bac> and we can have more focused discussions on the finer points here in the coming weeks
[15:38] <bac> thank you abentley for pushing the discussion forward
[15:38] <sinzui> bac will take off his mask as reveal that he is the supreme leader
[15:38] <abentley> bac, np.
[15:38] <gary_poster> heh
[15:38] <bac> [topic] * Multiline parameter lists in function definitions vs. function calls [hennnige, jtv]
[15:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Multiline parameter lists in function definitions vs. function calls [hennnige, jtv]
[15:39] <henninge> Ah yes.
[15:39] <bac> note we have six minutes, so let's not dawdle...
[15:39] <henninge> I have since been told that this has been discussed recently, so now I am just asking what I should put in the style guide.
[15:39] <henninge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/414360/
[15:39] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/414360/
[15:40] <danilos> henninge, afaik, we've allowed both styles so far
[15:40] <henninge> There seems to be different ways to format multi line definitions to multi-line calls, is that correct?
[15:40] <danilos> henninge, or well, perhaps not for function definitions
[15:40] <bac> most multi-line fcn calls don't follow the style shown
[15:40] <abentley> danilos, for function calls, I have not been allowed to use the first style.
[15:40] <henninge> or was I told rubbish?
[15:41] <danilos> henninge, you can use the first style for calls as well; second style is not customary in function defs
[15:42] <henninge> danilos: style guide only allows the second style for calls.
[15:42] <noodles775> abentley: that's what the paste shows, that the styleguide *currently* says the second for calls... and not the first.
[15:42] <henninge> noodles775: yes, I was told, though, that somewhere it was agreed to use the first for definitions.
[15:42] <abentley> noodles775, right.  danilos seemed to be suggesting using the first style for function calls was permissible.
[15:43] <henninge> I am just asking if that is the case and  I'll update the style guide.
[15:43] <noodles775> Yep, so if so, let's update the styleguide :)
[15:43]  * danilos thought it was, and I've written numerous lines of code in that style and nobody complained
[15:43] <henninge> danilos: get jtv as a reviewer ...
[15:43] <henninge> ;-)
[15:43] <bac> danilos: me too.  i prefer the first.
[15:44] <henninge> bac: for calls or definitions?
[15:44] <abentley> Using the first style for function calls does have the advantage that it's suggested in PEP-8
[15:44] <henninge> we could simple allow both styles for both situations
[15:44] <bac> henninge: calls.  the first only for defn
[15:44] <danilos> henninge, I prefer them for both, I resort to second style for calls only when function name is already long and I'd need 5 lines for 5 parametes
[15:45] <danilos> bac, +1
[15:45] <henninge> bac, danilos +1
[15:45] <henninge> I'll put that in the style guide.
[15:45] <bigjools> if your function call params are spreading that far, I'd be tempted to make a container object, FWIW
[15:45] <bac> do we need a vote?
[15:45] <bac> i think not.
[15:45] <danilos> bigjools, sometimes just the function name is long
[15:45] <bigjools> danilos: shrtn it :)
[15:45] <bac> [action] henninge to update the style guide
[15:45] <MootBot> ACTION received:  henninge to update the style guide
[15:45] <danilos> bigjools, we can start considering names like 'zap_it' :)
[15:45] <henninge> btw, style guide is this to me: https://dev.launchpad.net/PythonStyleGuide
[15:46] <bac> henninge: may we roll your other item to next week?
[15:46] <henninge> bac: that's fine.
[15:46] <bac> great.
[15:46] <bac> this has been a very productive meeting.
[15:46] <bac> thanks for coming and participating.
[15:46] <bac> #endmeeting
[15:46] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:46.
[15:47] <bigjools> thanks bac
[15:47] <abentley> bac, thanks.
[15:47] <danilos> bac, all, thanks
[15:48] <gary_poster> thank you


[19:44] <efactusa> Hey everyone I just want to thank you all for the wonderful OS on behalf of me and the people of france and the crew at http://www.myefact.com we wouldnt have been able to do half of what we do if it wasn't for Ubuntu so THANKS UBUNTU DEVS!!!!!


[04:05] <em> Oh it's lukcy for me that #kubuntu moved here.
[04:08] <em> do you all think there will maybe be more people here?
[05:02] <valorie> em: I imagine that we lost a lot of people who no longer looked at IRC
[05:03] <valorie> while the chans are smaller, they seem to be active still
[05:03] <valorie> not much lost I think
[05:03] <valorie> except trust and history
[05:48] <Guest75> where can I get info on kubuntu 21.04 sound issues using Mixxx 2.3.0
[05:50] <Guest75> ...current issues such as Mixxx not releaseing i.e. YouTube won't even start until a few minutes after closing Mixxx
[06:02] <valorie> !info mixxx
[06:02] <ubot3> mixxx (2.2.4~dfsg-1, hirsute): Digital Disc Jockey Interface. In component universe, is optional. Built by mixxx. Size 5,763 kB / 14,438 kB. (Only available for linux-any.)
[09:19] <skramer_> Is there a certain "trick" to add my Google Account to Online accounts? I mean it sends a number to my mobile which I confirm, but then nothing happens... Kubuntu 20.04.2
[15:20] <kubuntu> short question.. I have linux mint installed on my nvme with a separate /boot partition, a swap partition and the main / partition. I wanna install kubuntu on a HDD I have in there (/dev/sdb). The resize installation in the kubuntu install script somehow selects resize of the usb stick and not the NVME and I have no option to change that resize option to another drive so I gotta do it manually... it asks me to select a
[15:20] <kubuntu> [15:18] <Guest60461> partition where to install the boot loader, which one should I select the naked /dev/NVME or /dev/NVMEp1/p2/p3/or p4 ? I think I am doubting about selecting /dev/NVME or /dev/NVMEp2, since p2 is my /boot.. will Kubuntu automatically make a dual boot out of it???
[15:21] <kubuntu> [15:19] <Guest60461> or should I install the boot loader to /dev/sdb, where the kubuntu partition will reside??
[15:21] <kubuntu> I wanna make a dual boot linux mint and kubuntu, but on separate drives
[15:21] <kubuntu> at the moment I have a single boot linux mint on my nvme
[15:47] <alkisg> That's not really short :)
[15:47] <alkisg> What's the output of `sudo parted -l; ls /sys/firmware/efi` ?
[16:03] <kubuntu> wait
[16:05] <kubuntu> I am booting in legacy mode
[16:05] <kubuntu> parted just gives a list of my hdds and partitions
[16:13] <alkisg> Yes, the output would help us see if your disk is mbr, and if you're actually booted in bios mode now. In that case, you install grub to the whole device, e.g. nvme, not to nvmep2, and to the second disk, not in the uefi partition
[16:38] <em> valorie: yeah I think you're probably right.
[16:38] <em> valorie: I think if you're here this is the true #kubuntu :)
[16:45] <em> denza250: welcome back
[20:28] <valorie> em: that's sweet of you to say <3
[22:52] <murthy> valorie: hi
[22:54] <murthy> two days back I show a message saying that the nick yofel is klined
[22:54] <murthy> Did someone steal the nick from yofel
[23:30] <Mamarok> murthy: kline where, here or on FN?
[23:30] <Mamarok> I can see it on FN, marked as away
[23:34] <murthy> Mamarok: I will check. But I def saw it. Also here it says the yofel nick is not registered. Did all the devs migrate?
[23:37] <valorie> he's been less and less active


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[14:25] <wolfgangbr1> Hi, not sure if this chat is the best place to ask but thought I start here. We use Bazaar with Launchpad and since this week we experience a significant slowdown in our work with Bazaar. Creating branches, merging, etc. all takes a lot longer than normal.
[14:27] <mgz> it may be worth asking in #launchpad (or hilite wgrant here perhaps)
[14:27]  * wgrant awakens
[14:28] <wgrant> wolfgangbr1: #launchpad is the right place, and I'm meant to be asleep, but nothing's changed there in the last week. Which bit of the process appears to take longer?
[14:28] <wgrant> Which specific actions?
[14:32] <wolfgangbr1> sorry, I had to reboot my machine. Not sure if anybody saw my question earlier.