[12:00] <erUSUL> elvirolo: run a sound server like esd or polypaudio
[12:00] <nictuku> nitinshantharam as I said before.
[12:00] <nitinshantharam> nictuku: that doestn exist either
[12:00] <elvirolo> crimsun: well, "multiple sounds" don't work ... they block /dev/dsp
[12:00] <crimsun> elvirolo: /dev/dsp is OSS emulation, which does not work with dmix
[12:00] <el_besugo> does anyone know which will be the official sound server for breezy?
[12:00] <crimsun> elvirolo: it has been esd
[12:00] <crimsun> elvirolo: sorry
[12:00] <crimsun> el_besugo: it has been esd
[12:01] <samu2> this esd thing is annoying me
[12:01] <crimsun> el_besugo: in breezy we use ALSA dmixed by default with esd as a backup
[12:01] <el_besugo> so, polypaudio for the next one?
[12:01] <samu2> i have to kill its process to use VLC and then fire it up again to use rhythm box
[12:01] <opo> I'd kinda like to fix this error "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress." any have any ideas?
[12:01] <erUSUL> ai-2: the script comes with intruccions in the source... read them
[12:01] <crimsun> el_besugo: no, polypaudio has a less than active upstream
[12:01] <el_besugo> ok
[12:01] <el_besugo> that suits me
[12:02] <el_besugo> I'm already using esd
[12:02] <lonewolff> opo: do you have mysql installed? and the php4-mysql package?
[12:02] <crimsun> el_besugo: by moving to dmixed ALSA by default for the first sound card, we've eliminated the majority of the blockers for "multiple sounds"
[12:02] <erUSUL> elvirolo: i use polypaudio works great
[12:02] <shekhar_> hello can someone help me
[12:02] <andelgado> seems that gnomemeeting is similar to microsoft netmeeting for H.323 videoconference.
[12:02] <jims_> crimsun: How do I know what video driver/output to configure for mplayer?
[12:02] <ai-2> erUSUL: i have runed the script and iam able to see the disc, but iam not able to view it graphicallyu
[12:02] <elvirolo> erUSUL: ok, i'll have a look :)
[12:02] <shekhar_> i just installed ubuntu on my thinkpad and now windows won't start in grub
[12:02] <opo> It appears to be installed
[12:02] <andelgado> i doesn't allow access to chat rooms.
[12:03] <andelgado> expect ideas please.
[12:03] <el_besugo> shekhar_: what windows do u have?
[12:03] <erUSUL> crimsun: so in breezy the defaoult will be no sound daemon an dmix enabled?
[12:04] <SnakeBite> does someone know how to find some irc.freenode.net admins
[12:04] <andelgado> i don't think gnomemeeting is compatible with yahoo chat,
[12:04] <el_besugo> it's not
[12:04] <haasteem> i am trying to get the jack server to run through qjackctl, but i get this message: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[12:04] <opo> lonewolff : it appears to be installed
[12:04] <ai-2> erUSUL: it says i dont have permission to view the content
[12:04] <el_besugo> andelgado: it's not the same protocol
[12:04] <crimsun> erUSUL: no, the default is dmixed ALSA with esd as a backup
[12:04] <jims_> Anyone know any forum links to troubleshoot mplayer?
[12:04] <crimsun> jims_: I don't understand your question
[12:05] <test34> How can I edit the System menu (after updating breezy it added a second Screensaver link in Preferences)
[12:05] <lonewolff> opo: you may have to edit /etc/php4/apacheversion/php.ini to include mysql.so
[12:05] <andelgado> ya, so it doesnt solve my need. i wanna voicechat in yahoo chatrooms.
[12:05] <haasteem> and when i try to run qsynth it says this: qsynth1: Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq); no MIDI input will be available.
[12:05] <jims_> Whe nI try to open a video file, I get an error message that sasy in cannot open the video_out.
[12:05] <haasteem> what could be that i'm missing?
[12:05] <as> #amd64
[12:05] <jims_> crimsun: Whe nI try to open a video file, I get an error message that sasy in cannot open the video_out.
[12:05] <Blissex> SnakeBite: in #Freenode of course
[12:05] <andelgado> seems like i've got to be back with windows OS.
[12:06] <el_besugo> andelgado: did u try the linux version of yahoo messenger?
[12:06] <nictuku> nitinshantharam was your postfix installed from ubuntu's deb package?
[12:06] <crimsun> jims_: did you pass ''-vo xv''?
[12:06] <opo> lonewolff : mind detailing that in a pm?
[12:06] <SnakeBite> Blissex: it is chit-chat channel :(
[12:06] <andelgado> yap, no support for videochat
[12:06] <elvirolo> anyone using gtk-qt engine please?
[12:06] <jims_> crimsun: I haven't changed the mplayer.conf file...
[12:06] <el_besugo> andelgado: bad luck
[12:06] <andelgado> i mean, no option to see webcam of chatmates
[12:06] <lonewolff> opo: see pm
[12:06] <erUSUL> ai-2: umount them and mount again as normal user
[12:06] <Blissex> SnakeBite: and there are admins in there. Also look at the Freenode FAQ...
[12:07] <SnakeBite> Blissex: 10x
[12:07] <jims_> crimsun: do I need to alter/add entries?
[12:07] <erUSUL> haasteem: a midi capable sound car
[12:07] <andelgado> is there anyone here, use yahoo messenger before and yahoo chat?
[12:07] <GatoLoko> anyone have freepascal working in breezy?
[12:08] <crimsun> jims_: at least try ''mplayer -vo xv foo'' first
[12:08] <andelgado> does linux users are stuck to "keyboard" chat?
[12:08] <annex> I moved from Xfree86 to Xorg and I have noticed a performance decrease and Xorg takes about 20-30% more CPU than before for drawing things.  I have a xinerama setup with a modern Nvidia card and an old ATI card.  I've noticed the performance issue seems to be created by using the ATI card for my second monitor since if I run only on the Nvidia card the problem goes away.  I'm using the binary nvidia driver and the free ati driver.  Using the ves
[12:08] <elvirolo> please, has anyone had that menu prob in kubuntu ?
[12:08] <haasteem> erusul: right... let me look into that :-)
[12:08] <crimsun> andelgado: as opposed to say x-chat, konversation, chatzilla, or gaim?
[12:08] <elvirolo> i apm absolutely desperate ... i've been having that problem for weeks
[12:09] <crimsun> "that menu problem" is extremely vague
[12:09] <erUSUL> annex: if xorg does not work for you keep xfree86
[12:09] <shekhar_> el_besugo, windows xp was preinstalled on this thinkpad
[12:09] <elvirolo> and the release date is getting closer, but the menu still doesn't behave properly
[12:09] <andelgado> crimsun: all u've mentioned doesnt allow chat with webcam support. right?
[12:09] <crimsun> andelgado: correct
[12:09] <elvirolo> simple : new program entries don't appear when i install new software
[12:09] <shekhar_> el_besugo, i partitioned the free space, installed ubuntu and grub, and now cannot boot xp from grub
[12:09] <shekhar_> el_besugo, it goes into rescue recovery mode when i select xp in grub
[12:10] <andelgado> chatting in linux will stick on typing in the keyboard then.
[12:10] <jims_> crimsun: From the command line? Or in gnome?
[12:10] <elvirolo> dozens of menu entries are missing
[12:10] <andelgado> so, doesn't any linux users bothered about it? it's not as flexible as in windows based.
[12:10] <el_besugo> not really, andelgado
[12:10] <crimsun> jims_: from the command line
[12:11] <el_besugo> unless u want to chat with yahoo protocols
[12:11] <crimsun> elvirolo: are menu and menu-xdg installed?
[12:11] <andelgado> i want to shift to linux, but this prob will hinder me to do so.
[12:11] <el_besugo> btw, non-free
[12:11] <ai-2> erUSUL: not able to mount as normal user only as root, then where to mount /mnt/windows or /media/24GB Disk (hdal)
[12:11] <annex> erUSUL: well, yeah I agree if it works then use it... but I'm kind of curios why with xinerama I get poorer performance than with a single card without changing Xorg.  Also the fact that the vesa driver helps somewhat makes me think it's a driver issue not Xorg/Xfree
[12:11] <el_besugo> what's the problem?
[12:11] <el_besugo> chat with keyboard
[12:11] <el_besugo> and when ur interested in someone use gnomeeting
[12:12] <andelgado> won't see faces of chat mates, as in yahoo chat with yahoo messenger in windows.
[12:12] <el_besugo> nonsense
[12:12] <el_besugo> use kopete
[12:12] <jims_> crimsun: I just get a 'help' listing scrolling by...
[12:12] <erUSUL> andelgado: yahoo does not provide specs for they propietary protocols nor does ms is hard to get support.
[12:12] <elvirolo> crimsun: yes they are installed
[12:12] <el_besugo> u won't see the cam but u will see their avatars
[12:13] <gerarcone> hi to all, does anybody have problem with the Synchronize clock function in Breezy?
[12:14] <jims_> crimsun: AHA! a typo...  When I tried again, I got the message, "Could not find free Xvideo port"
[12:15] <Foodcoman> Whooo Hooo, the someone fixed the the issue of domain name not being saved int System/Settings/network/networks settings.  Good news.
[12:16] <andelgado> thanks for the help guys. got to decide if i would shift OS to linux, or remain using microsoft windows.
[12:17] <nalioth> andelgado: not much of a choice, imho
[12:17] <gerarcone> nobody?
[12:17] <andelgado> unless, yahoo would release new version of yahoo messenger for linux that allows webcam chatting
[12:17] <hondje> wow
[12:17] <nalioth> gerarcone: "nobody?" is not a productive question
[12:17] <hondje> someone cares enough about that to actually chose their OS for it?
[12:17] <Seveas> nalioth, read back a bit :)
[12:17] <el_besugo> andelgado: if u choose an OS only for being able to chat...
[12:17] <erUSUL> gerarcone: i do not use breezy
[12:18] <test34> If I want some programs to stop loading at bootup like LVM, I just delete the symlink in /etc/rcS.d ?
[12:18] <jims_> crimsun:  Any ideas on how to 'free up" an Xvideo port?
[12:18] <erUSUL> :(
[12:18] <Seveas> test34, yes
[12:18] <test34> thanks Seveas
[12:18] <erUSUL> test34: use update-rc <whatever> remove
[12:18] <Seveas> erUSUL, you should, breezy is nice :)
[12:19] <Seveas> sudo update-rc.d -f <whatever> remove
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> chmod -x erUSUL
[12:19] <MrFaber> I have checked the systemmonitor and realizes that two process of evolution runs which I don't use. How can I disable this autostart apps?
[12:19] <Seveas> *g*
[12:19] <Seveas> chmod -w lsuactiafner
[12:19] <gerarcone> nalioth: sorry but the question was above
[12:19] <Seveas> :p
[12:19] <mkyb14> Has anyone ever setup the "remote desktop" on ubuntu and actually got it working?????
[12:19] <erUSUL> Seveas: yea that seems more correct :)
[12:19] <nalioth> Seveas: just makin a point that "anybody?" and such as that are not productive questions
[12:19] <gerarcone> nalioth: hi to all, does anybody have problem with the Synchronize clock function in Breezy?
[12:19] <test34> erUSUL, I dont have update-rc
[12:20] <MrFaber> gerarcone, on start yes
[12:20] <andelgado> people, is this a healthy room? wouldnt you be bothered answering stupid questions of a novice? Coz i'll gonna be here always, as novice to linux, of course.
[12:20] <pirast> Hi, does anybody know a good sftp client?
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> see... he doesnt have update-rc muhahah lolol
[12:20] <Seveas> andelgado, yes this room is healthy :)
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> (:
[12:20] <solidgroove> dma refuse to turn on for cdrom how can I fix that?
[12:20] <nalioth> pirast: gftp
[12:20] <andelgado> thanks
[12:20] <hondje> solidgroove: define 'refuse'
[12:20] <MrFaber> solidgroove, do you use hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc or whatever
[12:20] <gerarcone> MrFaber: ok, thanks
[12:20] <erUSUL> test34: is update-rc.d as correctly pointed out by Seveas
[12:20] <solidgroove> hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[12:20] <pirast> nalioth: I tried it but it doesn't connect to my server (tls only)
[12:21] <_n00blar_> how do I go about adding a new path to my $PATH variable?
[12:21] <solidgroove> i get failed
[12:21] <hondje> solidgroove: your cdrom is your primary master?
[12:21] <test34> erUSUL, ok
[12:21] <solidgroove> yes
[12:21] <Seveas> _n00blar_, export PATH=/new/path/here:$PATH
[12:21] <hondje> o_O
[12:21] <gerarcone> how i can remove some kernel versions (that i don't use) from GRUB?
[12:21] <solidgroove> i have sda for hdd
[12:21] <MrFaber> solidgroove, and you mount it with /dev/hda?
[12:21] <SuperTails92> geracone: Uninstall their packages.
[12:21] <_n00blar_> Seveas, yes, but I want it to be saved after reboots
[12:21] <solidgroove> does it have to be unmounted to enable dma?
[12:21] <MrFaber> no
[12:21] <MrFaber> just a question
[12:21] <Seveas> _n00blar_, put it in your ~/.gnomerc
[12:22] <nalioth> pirast: did you select the ssh option on gftp?
[12:22] <MrFaber> Is it jumpered correctly?
[12:22] <erUSUL> gerarcone: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:22] <solidgroove> yes
[12:22] <_n00blar_> Seveas, ahh, ok thanks
[12:22] <MrFaber> solidgroove, What is the error?
[12:22] <gerarcone> erUSUL: but in this way i don't delete them
[12:23] <pirast> nalioth: No, I didn't because it's a FTP server with TLS support.. When I select SSH2 it doesn't work :-/
[12:23] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: how i can do this?
[12:23] <solidgroove> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[12:23] <nalioth> pirast: i know of no ftp client that uses tls
[12:23] <MrFaber> LOL
[12:23] <MrFaber> just call sudo hdparm ...
[12:23] <moparfan90> hello. i installed eric3 and when i run it i get a error. are there any sependaces for eric3?
[12:23] <SuperTails92> geracone: Use your favorite apt UI (read: Synaptic)
[12:23] <solidgroove> it was sudo
[12:23] <MrFaber> you have to be root
[12:23] <MrFaber> or use sudo
[12:23] <erUSUL> gerarcone: you edit the file find the entries you want to delete and delete them
[12:23] <pirast> nalioth: OK, thanks...
[12:23] <_n00blar_> Seveas, how do I add it system wide?
[12:23] <jims_> crimsun: If mplayer cannot find a free Xvideo port, do I have to cofig/specify it?
[12:24] <jdbolt> hi, can anyone tell me how to mount a hard drive which i use to store all my music on? Its ext3 and i need it to auto mount on boot and to be readable and writable by me, thanks
[12:24] <mkyb14> Has anyone ever setup the "remote desktop" on ubuntu and actually got it working?????
[12:24] <moparfan90> hello. i installed eric3 and when i run it i get a error. are there any sependaces for eric3?
[12:24] <moparfan90> help me
[12:24] <MrFaber> solidgroove, you used sudo?
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> jims_ : #mplayer
[12:24] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: uhm... i'm looking with synaptic but i can't find them
[12:24] <jdbolt> it is at /dev/sdb1
[12:24] <Seveas> _n00blar_, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/profile and /etc/bash.bashrc
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> jims_ : i dont think you need a free port, it moves on the next open one?
[12:24] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: i don't know what are their names
[12:24] <solidgroove> MrFaber, yes but I recompiled with 2.6.13 could that be it?
[12:24] <_n00blar_> Seveas, so add the path to all those files?
[12:24] <erUSUL> jims_: maybe you does not have Xv enabled in xorg
[12:24] <Seveas> moparfan90, what's the error?
[12:24] <moparfan90> bob2, are you there?
[12:24] <MrFaber> normally root should have any rights
[12:24] <gerarcone> erUSUL: yes, but i only delete them to show in GRUB
[12:25] <Seveas> _n00blar_, these 3 all (re)define the path depending on the shell
[12:25] <moparfan90> moparfan90@ubuntu:~$ eric3
[12:25] <moparfan90> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/eric3.py", line 147, in ?
[12:25] <moparfan90>     main()
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/eric3.py", line 132, in main
[12:25] <moparfan90>     mw = UserInterface(loc, splash)
[12:25] <SuperTails92> geracone: linux-image-{obsolete_version}
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/UI/UserInterface.py", line 265, in __init__
[12:25] <moparfan90>     self.sbv = SBVviewer(dbs, self.sbvDock, 1)
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/UI/SBVviewer.py", line 75, in __init__
[12:25] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: thanks
[12:25] <Seveas> moparfan90, you idiot....
[12:25] <MrFaber> solidgroove, and what happens if you run "sudo su -"
[12:25] <MrFaber> and than "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda"
[12:25] <pirast> moparfan90: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ next time please
[12:25] <SuperTails92> moparfan90: Please read the topic.
[12:25] <MrFaber> otherwise I would check it with the older kernel
[12:26] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: in this way i'm deleting them also from the GRUB menu, right?
[12:26] <solidgroove> same error
[12:26] <erUSUL> gerarcone: if you are using prepackaged kernels unisntall them via apt/Synaptic and you are done if it's a custom made kernel you have tu delete files by hand
[12:26] <MrFaber> Has anyone an idea how to disable evolution autostart?
[12:26] <MrFaber> without removing it :)
[12:26] <mkyb14> anyone?
[12:27] <gerarcone> erUSUL: thank you. fortunately i'm a very bad linux user so they are prepackaged ;)
[12:27] <pirast> MrFaber: Close Evolution -> System -> Logout -> Select "Save session"
[12:27] <pirast> And try :-)
[12:28] <MrFaber> pirast, thanks, no other way?
[12:28] <MrFaber> Without save session
[12:28] <MrFaber> otherwise I always have to use save session or am I wrong?
[12:28] <MrFaber> solidgroove, still there?
[12:28] <pirast> MrFaber: No, one time.. That's enough..
[12:28] <MrFaber> solidgroove, one last chance
[12:28] <erUSUL> MrFaber: once saved you are done
[12:29] <moparfan900> hello
[12:29] <MrFaber> ok, thanks
[12:29] <nalioth> moparfan900: you are asking for trouble
[12:29] <moparfan900> sorry about that
[12:29] <TokenBad> in ubuntu whats command for force quit?
[12:29] <moparfan900> seveas, i am very sorry i thought that was 1 line a pasted it very fase sry
[12:30] <solidgroove> MrFaber, yes
[12:30] <solidgroove> logged in as root I cant set dma, maybe i did something to kernel config
[12:30] <pirast> TokenBad: Do you mean to shutdown your PC?
[12:30] <TokenBad> no..force quit a program
[12:30] <MrFaber> solidgroove,
[12:30] <MrFaber> do you know that you can switch back from text console to x with alt + f7
[12:30] <erUSUL> TokenBad: an aplication or the system
[12:30] <solidgroove> yes
[12:30] <pirast> TokenBad: killall COMMAND
[12:30] <MrFaber> ok, than switch to terminal one with ctrl+alt+f1
[12:30] <TokenBad> application
[12:31] <MrFaber> and login as root
[12:31] <MrFaber> and test it
[12:31] <erUSUL> TokenBad: kill -9 <Pid>
[12:31] <solidgroove> i did
[12:31] <MrFaber> maybe sudo is block in any kind, no clue
[12:31] <TokenBad> there was a command could type on and then click on the one causing the problem
[12:31] <andelgado> hi people
[12:31] <MrFaber> solidgroove, and it doesn't work I guess
[12:31] <MrFaber> solidgroove, than use your old kernel :)
[12:31] <MrFaber> solidgroove, maybe you haven't compiled dma support in kernel
[12:32] <solidgroove> now I have to get ncurses to use menuconfig, this config file is from my slackware install
[12:32] <andelgado> what did i miss, i dont hear sound in using firefox, even when i click links that plays music?
[12:32] <jims_> erUSUL: How would I enable?
[12:32] <andelgado> expect advice pls... what did i miss, i dont hear sound in using firefox, even when i click links that plays music?
[12:32] <erUSUL> TokenBad: you can add a "killer" to the gnome-panel right-click and choose add to...
[12:33] <TokenBad> not using gnome
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> solidgroove : am also a slackware user..
[12:33] <TokenBad> using kde
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> solidgroove : run a hyrbid ubuntu/slackware system
[12:33] <erUSUL> jims_: it depends on the video driver you are using (nv for nvidia has it and radeon for ati etc)
[12:34] <lsuactiafner> jims_ : not nv, nvidia if you install the official nvidia drivers
[12:34] <erUSUL> TokenBad: run xkill
[12:34] <solidgroove> if you remove the agpgart and use nvidia one i get better fps
[12:34] <TokenBad> thats the command
[12:35] <TokenBad> heheh
[12:36] <lundner> hey hey
[12:36] <Hoxzer> any ideas how to get mp4's work in ubuntu?
[12:36] <jims_> erUSUL: Not sure what chips are in my Compaq laptop, I just let the INSTALL CD do the work...  and apt-get for getting mplayer-mozilla...
[12:37] <andelgado> what did i miss, i dont hear sound in using firefox, even when i click links that plays music?
[12:38] <erUSUL> jims_: and my cristall ball is not working today either... bad luck XD
[12:38] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: what kind of music? MIDI?
[12:38] <andelgado> but music player works properly, i listen to radils
[12:38] <jims_> erUSUL: Will uname -r tell me that?
[12:38] <andelgado> whatever music the webpage includes. MIDI too
[12:38] <erUSUL> jims_: run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.org | grep Driver' it should give you a clue
[12:39] <erUSUL> jims_: no
[12:39] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: MIDI music on webpages in Linux is difficult to get working.
[12:40] <andelgado> oh no. so, i can't listen to such format then.
[12:40] <jims_> erUSUL:  No such file or directory...
[12:40] <jims_> erUSUL:  wrong name or path?
[12:41] <erUSUL> andelgado: you probably can but not directly from the web. download the files and then listen to them
[12:41] <andelgado> listen using music player?
[12:41] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: yeah
[12:41] <erUSUL> jims_: run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver' it should give you a clue
[12:41] <erUSUL>                                                ^^^
[12:41] <erUSUL> Sorry for the typo
[12:42] <erUSUL> jims_: is xorg.conf
[12:42] <andelgado> in windows, i think MIDI in webpage is played by windows media player.
[12:42] <CoryK> why does the ubuntu wiki use a secure connection but the rest of the site doesn't?
[12:42] <andelgado> so whether the music is downloaded or not, still same media player is playing it.
[12:42] <jims_> erUSUL:  It says " Driver=Trident"
[12:43] <blunted> yo how do i change my console font
[12:43] <blunted> not in x
[12:43] <blunted> but the other console thingy
[12:43] <oolon> CoryK, so i can't add rm -rf / to mean upgrade all apps
[12:43] <andelgado> so, maybe firefox be configured to use music player to play sounds?
[12:43] <test34> with breezy, when I update the programs manually(with update manager), the automatic update pops up to tell me there is new updates available and and stays there even after I'm done installing the updates manually with the update manager
[12:43] <erUSUL> jims_: man trident
[12:43] <test34> bug ?
[12:43] <[Chameleon] > oolon: LOL, no that would downgrade all apps
[12:43] <SPCCrow> sup?
[12:43] <andelgado> simply pointing to music player all tasks for playing media?
[12:44] <Haler> help pls
[12:44] <SPCCrow> !info korean
[12:44] <Zhukov> hi
[12:44] <oolon> [Chameleon] , depending on how you look at it you would now have to install all new stuff :)
[12:44] <andelgado> [Chamleon]
[12:44] <[Chameleon] > oolon: heheh
[12:44] <tombs> hi ppl
[12:44] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: andelgado
[12:45] <Zhukov> anyone here with breezy just for a quick question? (Dist-upgraded and some troubles came along...just wanna check if they are default)
[12:45] <Haler> how can i start ubuntu...it stops and ask for a user name and password and give me a new mail
[12:45] <SPCCrow> anyone know how to install Korean language support? also how to allow apt-get to read the universal package list?
[12:45] <andelgado> [Chameleon] : in windows, i think MIDI in webpage is played by windows media player.  so, maybe firefox be configured to use music player to play sounds?
[12:45] <Xorlev> apt-get update SPCCrow?
[12:45] <Zhukov> Does Best works out of the box in a fresh breezy install?
[12:45] <Seveas> Haler, did you install with 'server' or 'expert; option?
[12:45] <Seveas> SPCCrow: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:46] <MrFaber> Anyone useing XFCE?
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: maybe... Google for it. I think when I was last trying to configure that, it required a midi player called "timidity" to be installed.
[12:46] <durt> yes mrfaber
[12:46] <serfurj> will ubuntu be less stable if i add a backports source to /etc/apt/source.list, then upgrade?
[12:46] <MrFaber> If I enable session saving it saves every window
[12:46] <MrFaber> and it restart the applications
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: I don't think the "Music Player" in the menu will play MIDI actually...
[12:46] <Zhukov> Anyone with a fresh breezy install?
[12:46] <andelgado> thanks, i'll check it out
[12:46] <Seveas> SPCCrow, and installing the package language-support-ko should give you supprt for korean
[12:46] <MrFaber> but gnome gives me always an error like firefox isn't compatible I have to restart it on my own
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > Zhukov: mine was fresh a while ago. what's your problem?
[12:47] <MrFaber> Zhukov, yes
[12:47] <erUSUL> andelgado: well midi in linux is tricky too. Google for timidity and ubuntu to set up midi support
[12:47] <Zhukov> [Chameleon] , best isnt working...
[12:47] <Xappe> give me the name of a ftp-client that can take ssl
[12:47] <Xorlev> Okay, so I'm formatting my 120gb Windows drive and I'm thinking about mounting /home over there instead. Possible? I believe it is, but then how do I remove the old /home?
[12:47] <Zhukov> i mean, beagled starts, but the search seems to be un-inotifyed
[12:47] <blunted> how do i change my console font
[12:47] <durt> mrfaber, what does gnome have to do with anything?
[12:47] <andelgado> K. TY
[12:47] <Zhukov> the kernel has the inotify patch, right?
[12:47] <blunted> i wanna make it smaller
[12:47] <blunted> if that helps.
[12:48] <MrFaber> durt, xfce restart the applicatons which was opened on exit
[12:48] <erUSUL> Xorlev: copy the contents of /home to the new partition and mount it under home in fstab
[12:48] <MrFaber> gnome can only restart gtk2 applications which support a special feature
[12:48] <Xappe> nobody?
[12:48] <durt> mrfaber, and what do you want to accomplish?
[12:48] <MrFaber> Is there an option that gnome behaves like xfce
[12:49] <MrFaber> I mean Gnome uses for times more memory, at least :D
[12:49] <MrFaber> *four
[12:49] <erUSUL> Xappe: gFTP
[12:49] <Zhukov> MrFaber, [Chameleon]  do you have the same problem?
[12:49] <erUSUL> ?
[12:49] <jediprime> hello?
[12:49] <hablandocontigo> hey, is ";" in samba config a comment out mark?
[12:49] <MrFaber> Zhukov, haven't tested beagle
[12:49] <Xappe> erUSUL: not by default? I have to recompile?
[12:49] <durt> you want to use gnome and have it behave, like xfce? well i dont know how - i use xfce :P
[12:50] <MrFaber> durt, :)
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > Zhukov: I don't know... a lot of ppl seem to be having trouble with beagle in Breezy. Some have it working though. I don't have it working, but I haven't tried very hard. Right now I'm just trying to get my network working again on my Breezy box.
[12:50] <jediprime> does anyone know how to change the resolution without being in the Gui?
[12:50] <Haler> i install expert edition
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > Zhukov: I've heard that Beagle will be officially available (supported) in Breezy+1.
[12:50] <Zhukov> ok MrFaber and [Chameleon]  Thanks, ill try it here...
[12:50] <MrFaber> I really think about switching since gnome uses very much mem and xfce looks really nice too and has much features, some better than gnome :)
[12:50] <Zhukov> yeah i know...
[12:51] <Zhukov> damn, was really loking forward to breezy
[12:51] <andelgado> thanks people
[12:51] <jediprime> I am having resolution issues
[12:51] <MrFaber> durt, how can I use XFCE with Ubuntu
[12:51] <MrFaber> Just install and switch with gdm?
[12:51] <durt> yup
[12:52] <jediprime> can anyone help me or not?
[12:52] <MrFaber> I am going to test it
[12:53] <moparfan900> seeas, hello. i am sorry about that.
[12:53] <Haler> do u have site how to install it?
[12:53] <jediprime> I just installed Ubuntu and when the Gui comes up the resolution is really bad
[12:53] <moparfan900> seveas, hello sorry about before
[12:53] <jediprime> its unreadable
[12:53] <codecaine> what is it called when you embed an exe in another exe?
[12:53] <test34> I had resolution issues too, I had colored vertical lines across the screen.. It was the default color depth was too high(24) should have been 16...
[12:53] <durt> jediprime: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <codecaine> there are programs that do this
[12:54] <hablandocontigo> hi, is ";" in a samba config file a "comment out" mark?
[12:54] <jediprime> where do I type this in at?
[12:54] <jediprime> i'm a newbie
[12:54] <durt> yes hablando
[12:54] <Xorlev> erUSUL: I know how to mount it under /home, but how do I remove the old /home data.
[12:54] <test34> jediprime, in a terminal window
[12:54] <hablandocontigo> durt thanks
[12:55] <jediprime> thanks
[12:55] <Enignon> GReetings all....just wondering if anyone has some time to spare and is willing to help out a total novice?
[12:55] <jediprime> how to you get it to stop from going in GUi during start up
[12:55] <erUSUL> Xorlev: sudo rm -Rf /home (this comand comes with absolutly *no warranty*)
[12:56] <erUSUL> Xorlev: you can even use nautilus
[12:56] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: just ask your question
[12:56] <durt> jediprime: just do it in the gui, or boot up in recovery mode (hit esc when it starts booting)
[12:56] <erUSUL> Xappe: lftp
[12:56] <jediprime> trying now
[12:57] <[Chameleon] > Xorlev: is the Windows drive formatted as NTFS?
[12:57] <test34> Xorlev,  cd home ; sudo rm -rf * ?
[12:57] <Xorlev> erUSUL: If my new data is mounted under home, sudo rm -rf /home will delete the new data.
[12:57] <jediprime> going in recovery mode
[12:57] <Xorlev> I'm asking how I would delete the old data.
[12:57] <moparfan900> ok i installed eric3 before and when i run it i get an error are there any dependances for eric3?
[12:57] <[Chameleon] > Xorlev: is the Windows drive formatted as NTFS?
[12:57] <test34> Xorlev, unmount it first
[12:57] <jediprime> me?
[12:57] <Xorlev> Chameleon22: It won't matter, it'll be ext3 once I'm done.
[12:57] <Xorlev> Bah
[12:57] <Xorlev> [Chameleon]
[12:58] <[Chameleon] > yeah yeah
[12:58] <jediprime> ohh
[12:58] <erUSUL> Xorlev: obviusly you have to do this whith the other partition umounted
[12:58] <Enignon> Ok, I'm trying to get ubuntu installed on an old system, 48 ram, p-166 etc...no boot from CD function though....and there is where I'm getting stuck. the 5.10 install CD I have reads, but I can't seem to start the install manually after booting the box with cd support from an old win'98 boot disk...any suggestions?
[12:58] <Xorlev> erUSUL: All I needed to know.
[12:58] <[Chameleon] > Xorlev: so you are trying to remove Windows entirely?
[12:58] <erUSUL> Xorlev: in recovery mode or with a live cd
[12:58] <sexcopter8000m> i know this is a linux channel, but does anyone know of any free software to do basic image stuff (just want to crop a screenshot) that's available for windows?
[12:59] <moparfan900> error message   is in paste bin
[12:59] <Xorlev> [Chameleon] : Yes, and the only forseeable problem would be to remove the old /home, which apparently after unmounting the new /home will be easy.
[12:59] <erUSUL> sexcopter8000m: gimp
[12:59] <MrFaber> durt, does any important function of ubuntu doesn't work if I use xfce?
[01:00] <sexcopter8000m> erUSUL: can you use gimp in windows? windows xp i mean
[01:00] <athlon> Xorlev, is the old home a partition in itself ? in which case, you could just unmount and delete the partition. otherwise, just delete the directory
[01:00] <jediprime> ok i typed in sudo dpkg-reconfigure to change resolution
[01:00] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: you'll need to make a Linux boot floppy. Also, that is a development version, so you'll be updating it all of the time and some things might be broken. And even more to worry about is if 48 MB of RAM is enough to run Ubuntu. I don't think it is... at least, not in graphical mode.
[01:00] <jediprime> now its asking me for which package
[01:00] <Xorlev> sexcopter8000m: Why are you asking in a Linux channel?
[01:00] <jediprime> what to I type now
[01:00] <test34> http://linuxtoday.com/it_management/2005090902026OPMSSW <- windows vista might be free ?
[01:00] <erUSUL> Enignon: for this system maybe Debian sarge with a light window manager is a wiser choose of distribution
[01:00] <durt> mrfaber, it all works i think
[01:00] <jediprime> to change resolution
[01:00] <erUSUL> sexcopter8000m: yes google for it
[01:00] <Xorlev> athlon: No, its under the root partition, so I can just delete the old one.
[01:00] <MrFaber> you can access all configuration programs?
[01:00] <test34> sexcopter8000m, you can
[01:01] <[Chameleon] > sexcopter8000m: just download the Windows version from gimp.org
[01:01] <athlon> just delete the directory (after you copy it to the new partition, of course)
[01:01] <Xorlev> Windows Vista might be free? Doubt it. And even if I was, Linux is far better.
[01:01] <MrFaber> durt, should I stick with gdm or use and other like xdm?
[01:01] <Xorlev> I use KDE MrFaber =)
[01:01] <Enignon> erESUL: got told it should run....so I'll drop back to 5.04, as for making a linux boot floppy...any reccomendations on walkthroughs or a guide that a novice like me could follow?
[01:02] <MrFaber> Xorlev, Kubuntu?
[01:02] <jediprime> if it is asking which package to reconfigurel, how do I do the resolution
[01:02] <erUSUL> test34: yeah the hell is frozing over right now, i can feel the chill XD
[01:02] <jediprime> in the terminal
[01:02] <durt> mrfaber, i use gdm but you can use whatever you like
[01:02] <MrFaber> ok, testing xfce
[01:03] <test34> ersul and xorlev: maybe they are scared of ubuntu hehe
[01:03] <erUSUL> Enignon:  i do not know if ubuntu supports floppy instalation :(
[01:03] <durt> jediprime: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:04] <test34> anyone use intel i810 on board video card ? I have a problem with mine.. it looks slow
[01:05] <thewayofzen> quick question.. after  sudo apt-get install linux-686  does the old kernel delete itself or do i need to manually remove it?
[01:05] <robotgeek> ubotu X is to reconfigure X, do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in a terminal
[01:05] <ubotu> ...but x is already something else...
[01:05] <robotgeek> !tell me about x
[01:05] <patrickj> ello
[01:05] <patrickj> does anyone know if DW8 works on Wine or Crossover Office yet?
[01:05] <erUSUL> thewayofzen: remove it manually (well with synaptic)
[01:06] <thewayofzen> erUSUL, what exactly do i need to remove..
[01:06] <BlueRose> does modems works wiht ubuntu ?
[01:06] <thewayofzen> Linux satori 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:06] <dabar> Just to let you know........ dabaR is in the house. hizzy, if you prefer.
[01:06] <jediprime> thanks
[01:06] <moparfan900> anyone here use eric3????/
[01:06] <BlueRose> i have question here
[01:06] <nathanel> BlueRose: depends on what kind of modem
[01:06] <Enignon> hmmm...I hate the idea of dumping 98 back on that box....it keeps getting infested by a 14yr old so I was hopping something more, robust would be a possibility...
[01:06] <thewayofzen> im gonna guess linux-386 ?
[01:07] <patrickj> ?
[01:07] <erUSUL> thewayofzen: the package tha t contains the kernel. search in synaptic
[01:07] <BlueRose> cearitve but ,  SmartLink chipset
[01:07] <patrickj> because I was thinking of installing ubuntu, but wondering if the new Dreamweaver 8 will work in it
[01:07] <hablandocontigo> sorry for spam earlier, by num lock was on
[01:07] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: older distros capable of running on that machine are still robust and able to do what the 14yo needs.
[01:08] <Enignon> Chameleon: Any suggestions as to which would be the best bet?
[01:08] <erUSUL> Enignon: i think that sarge is the best option
[01:08] <BlueRose> nathanel : does smartlink shipset works ?
[01:08] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: the suggestion by somebody else of debian sarge with a light-weight window manager made earlier was a good one.
[01:09] <erUSUL> BlueRose: check linmodems.org
[01:09] <hablandocontigo> when I try to log onto the samba share on my Ubuntu, Tiger doesn't offer a Guest log in, what is my Registered login?
[01:09] <Enignon> Ok....next no-brainer of a question....which debian sarge iso is the one I need? or do I need all 14....
[01:10] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: your user name and password
[01:10] <lokadin> say can i upgrade my ubuntu release without having to reinstall my computer?
[01:10] <erUSUL> Enignon: the first one would suffice
[01:10] <Enignon> thanks
[01:10] <[Chameleon] > Can anyone help me with a network connectivity problem in Breezy??
[01:10] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: you shouldnt be using samba to bridge between OSX and ubuntu, you should use nfs instead (it's native to both)
[01:11] <nalioth> lokadin: yes you can
[01:11] <erUSUL> !tell lokadin about upgrade2breezy
[01:11] <nalioth> lokadin: apt-get does it naturally
[01:11] <lokadin> er4z0r, thanks
[01:11] <lokadin> erUSUL, thanks
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> whats a good way to transfer huge files, around 5G from linux to windows? smb doesnt support over 2G, browsers ect tend to crash if i let ppl download it from ftp
[01:11] <nightswim> smb does support over 2G
[01:11] <jediprime> how to you start the gui from the terminal
[01:12] <nightswim> at least over here it does
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> nightswim : have you tried it emperically?
[01:12] <nightswim> yes
[01:12] <nightswim> dvd iso's
[01:12] <jediprime> how to you start the gui from the terminal
[01:12] <jediprime> ??
[01:12] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: startx
[01:12] <j0nas`> hey guys... having some trouble with xmms and mp3s...
[01:12] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: you can set up nc (network cat) for transfer such a file
[01:12] <jediprime> thanks
[01:12] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: or gdm
[01:12] <j0nas`> searched the forums and still no luck
[01:13] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: gdm gets you the login screen
[01:13] <test34> firefox 1.5 beta 1 available in any repositories ?
[01:13] <j0nas`> which packages do you need?
[01:13] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: i never tried but torically you can
[01:13] <hablandocontigo> nalioth I tried it logging in with my normal user/pass onto samba but doesn't work
[01:13] <nathanel> BlueRose: look out for the sl-modem-daemon package
[01:13] <erUSUL> !tell j0nas` about mp3
[01:13] <j0nas`> thx
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[01:13] <j0nas`> frigging xmms freezes up solid when i try to play an mp3
[01:13] <dabar> [Chameleon] : what network issues, be more specifc in your questions, heps get the answer.
[01:14] <jediprime> i see a mouse cursor its a black X
[01:14] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: you could try using scp just turn off compression and it should be fast enough
[01:14] <BlueRose> ok nathanel
[01:14] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: assuming you have sshd on the pc you wanna send it to
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> i want to send from linux to windows
[01:15] <KanRiNiN> Hey, I downloaded gnome-vfs-sftp.deb so I can browse it through nautilus..but I'm a noob how do I install the deb file?
[01:15] <test34> How can I remove the little icons next to the items in the Applications/Places/System menus ?
[01:15] <Zaacc> !tell Zaacc about mp3
[01:15] <robotgeek> j0nas`: are you on x86?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> whats a client for windows that supports scp and is free and easy to use?
[01:15] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: download winscp on the windows pc and just use that to connect to the linux pc and then copy using that
[01:15] <j0nas`> cygwin!
[01:15] <dabar> KanRiNiN: why did you download the deb as opposed to installing through synaptic?
[01:15] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: winscp is free and easy :)
[01:15] <Zaacc> i have the same issue with mp3s and xmms as j0nas` :(
[01:15] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: Putty
[01:15] <jediprime> i got an error saying Failed to initalize Hal?
[01:15] <[Chameleon] > dabar: my mobo has two network ports. since the last update of packages, networking no longer works. I noticed that one of the ports was disabled, so I enabled it and activated both using the network-config GUI. Both connections say they are active, but they do not show in the list when I type ifconfig, only loopback...
[01:15] <jediprime> what is this?
[01:15] <j0nas`> Zaacc: have you found an alternative?
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> putty supports scp?
[01:16] <Zaacc> nope :/
[01:16] <[Chameleon] > dabar: my IP is supplied by DHCP from my WRT54G router.
[01:16] <KanRiNiN> synaptic doesn't have the package.  if yours does, I'd like to know your repos please
[01:16] <Zaacc> it's a pitty
[01:16] <j0nas`> tell me about it...
[01:16] <erUSUL> Zaacc: j0nas` try beep.media-player instead
[01:16] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: filezilla
[01:16] <dabar> Zaacc, j0nas`, in xmms, right click on it, then go options>preferences, and change the default output plugin to esound
[01:16] <j0nas`> would like to know what the issue is though
[01:16] <erUSUL> Zaacc: j0nas` try beep-media-player instead
[01:16] <j0nas`> very disconcerting
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> hmmk
[01:16] <j0nas`> dabar: thanks will try
[01:16] <BlueRose> hey nathanel
[01:16] <nalioth> Chameleon22: did you report the bug?
[01:17] <BlueRose> can i pm u
[01:17] <ksmurf> have the w32codecs been removed from extras?
[01:17] <Zaacc> thanks dabar will try that
[01:17] <dabar> j0nas`: good, will work:P
[01:17] <robotgeek> j0nas`: xmms has a bug and it has been reported. please use beep-media-player for now
[01:17] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: which bug? the networking being disabled?
[01:17] <test34> ksmurf, no
[01:17] <nalioth> Chameleon22: assuming it was working b4 the upgrade, yes
[01:17] <j0nas`> robotgeek... okay thanks :)
[01:17] <Zaacc> when i try play mp3s through the default media player that comes with Ubuntu * not too sure of the name * i get something like 'plugin required' could that be the problem?
[01:18] <dabar> [Chameleon] : tried to bring up the interfaces with sudo ifup $interface(eth0, for example...)
[01:18] <KanRiNiN> repos dabar?
[01:18] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: I will.
[01:18] <nathanel> BlueRose: any specific reason why you can't you post here, so others with the same problem could read too?
[01:18] <BlueRose> ok i will show u
[01:19] <dabar> KanRiNiN: what is your question, what repo it is in?
[01:19] <BlueRose> myself@Home:/media/floppy$ sudo dpkg -i sl-mod~1.deb(Reading database ... 58610 files and directories currently installed.)Preparing to replace sl-modem-daemon 2.9.9a-1ubuntu4 (using sl-mod~1.deb) ...Shutting down SmartLink Modem driver normally ... no slmodemd daemon running.Unpacking replacement sl-modem-daemon ...Setting up sl-modem-daemon (2.9.9a-1ubuntu4) ...Loading ALSA modem driver into kernel ... done.Starting SmartLink Modem driver for: .Creating
[01:19] <[Chameleon] > dabar: I have... ifup says "There is already a pid file for /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 0' and later 'Network is down'. ifdown eth0 says 'interface eth0 is not configured' but it is configured.
[01:19] <robotgeek> j0nas`: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11028 , please try the workaround there and see it works
[01:19] <Dre> good morning.
[01:19] <[Chameleon] > dabar: I'm going to try rebooting the router...
[01:19] <KanRiNiN> I'm looking for a repo that will let me synaptic gnome-vfs-sfpt and gnome-vfs-extras
[01:19] <Dre> I was wondering if I can play warcraft with ubuntu
[01:19] <KanRiNiN> they fix a nautilus error
[01:19] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: i'll file it as soon as I get it working again!
[01:20] <BlueRose> is that ok nathanel
[01:20] <erUSUL> BlueRose: use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for this do not flood
[01:20] <dabar> KanRiNiN: where did you get the debs?
[01:20] <BlueRose> i told him i wanna pm him cuz i don't wanna flooded the channel
[01:20] <robotgeek> [Chameleon] : you might want to manually edit the file /etc/network/ifstate and ifdown it
[01:20] <jediprime> my sound will not work
[01:21] <BlueRose> is that means my modem installed now
[01:21] <jediprime> how do I configure my sound card?
[01:21] <erUSUL> jediprime: my sound do not wark is not very helpful
[01:21] <MrFaber> How can I disable gnome-screensaver? I like xscreensaver much more and it uses only 1/3 memory.
[01:21] <j0nas`> robotgeek: beep locks up when i try to play an mp3 as well
[01:21] <nathanel> BlueRose: Please use the pastebot from paste.ubuntulinux.nl and post the link here, thx. i think there are some lines missing from the end...
[01:21] <erUSUL> jediprime: my sound do not *work is not very helpful
[01:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> hey, i thought vfat was case insensitive.
[01:22] <j0nas`> sound card is working correctly though
[01:22] <ray__> ok.......my power went out....i was connected as another name....now xchat stil thinks that that username is in use
[01:22] <j0nas`> getting audio in totem
[01:22] <ray__> any way to fix
[01:22] <ian__> jediprime: what soundcard?
[01:22] <MrFaber> I have disabled it in gnome-screensaver-preferences but it is still started
[01:22] <robotgeek> j0nas`: could you try changing the output plugin
[01:22] <KanRiNiN> searched through google.  found them on a debian server.  figured it would work because ubuntu is based off it
[01:22] <j0nas`> in beep?
[01:22] <j0nas`> looking for the settings...
[01:22] <jediprime> ess sound card
[01:22] <ray__> MrFaber, did you restart x
[01:22] <BlueRose> that's all what i had
[01:22] <MrFaber> no, just logout
[01:22] <alturigo> wtf, is breezy broken or something? I've just dist-upgraded and I got a kernel panic...
[01:22] <MrFaber> and kill it before :)
[01:22] <robotgeek> j0nas`: ctl + p ->  plugins -> output
[01:22] <KanRiNiN> dabar, when I tried to sudo dpkg -i it, I got this "dpkg: regarding gnome-vfs-sftp_0.1.2-5_i386.deb containing gnome-vfs-sftp:
[01:22] <KanRiNiN>  libgnomevfs2-common conflicts with gnome-vfs-sftp
[01:23] <robotgeek> alturigo: breezy is broken till october 13
[01:23] <j0nas`> robotgeek: only have one mp3 plugin...
[01:23] <KanRiNiN> but the libgnomevfs is required for it, so it's wierd.
[01:23] <MrFaber> another good point for xscreensaver is that screen isn't directly locked after starting, at least you can set a higher time
[01:23] <j0nas`> hm switching to alsa output... just curious
[01:23] <robotgeek> j0nas`: in the plugins tab, there should be output
[01:24] <test34> alturigo, not broken for me
[01:24] <j0nas`> robotgeek: i see it, there is however only one mp3 audio plugin
[01:24] <dabar> KanRiNiN: there is a virtual package(meaning doesnt exist...) in my synaptic/aptitude... I have the repos as shown on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:24] <robotgeek> j0nas`: true
[01:24] <ProdegyX> Can someone Tell me how to install SuperKaramba On My Computer
[01:24] <johndarkhorse> ProdegyX: use synaptic
[01:24] <ProdegyX> How do I do that
[01:24] <ray__> oh no
[01:24] <johndarkhorse> !tell ProdegyX about synaptic
[01:25] <nathanel> BlueRose: If everything worked all right, the modem should now be accessible by /dev/ttySL0
[01:25] <MrFaber> cu all
[01:25] <BlueRose> not working
[01:25] <ProdegyX> Would SuperKaramba Already be on there?
[01:25] <BlueRose> i tried to configure it
[01:25] <BlueRose> and tried to connect and gives me this line
[01:25] <BlueRose> s
[01:26] <BlueRose> once i use from command line : sudo pon it's gives me this answer
[01:26] <BlueRose> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[01:26] <BlueRose> once i click on dialup connection it's gives me this warning box
[01:26] <BlueRose> kppp can not find:
[01:26] <BlueRose> /dev/ttySL0
[01:26] <BlueRose> Please make sure you have setup your modem device properly and/or adjust the location of the modem device on the modem tab of the setup dialog.
[01:26] <ProdegyX> In Synapatic Will SuperKaramba Already be in there?
[01:26] <butcherbird> !ubotu
[01:26] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:26] <ray__> ProdegyX, might as well check
[01:26] <ProdegyX> Ok its not there
[01:26] <ProdegyX> How do I get the Source
[01:26] <ProdegyX> to add it
[01:26] <ProdegyX> Cuz I downloaded it as Tar.Gz file
[01:27] <ProdegyX> but How do I install a Tar.GZ File
[01:27] <ray__> well you have to untar it
[01:27] <ProdegyX> I did
[01:27] <ProdegyX> Now what
[01:27] <ray__> ./configuee
[01:27] <Seveas> ProdegyX, don't
[01:27] <ray__> ./configure
[01:27] <Seveas> install things from synaptic
[01:27] <georgej> hello. Can someone give me a tip how I can get the promise sata150 sx4 working with breezy (kernel 2.6.12.-8-386 - sata_sx4 driver loaded)
[01:27] <Seveas> not from sources
[01:27] <ProdegyX> Ok
[01:27] <ProdegyX> well I untarred the Folder
[01:27] <ProdegyX> Now what do I do
[01:28] <ray__> Seveas, uhh what?
[01:28] <ray__> ./configure
[01:28] <ProdegyX> configure what
[01:28] <ProdegyX> where do I type that
[01:28] <dabar> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 440 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[01:28] <crafteh> does ubunto use the apt system?
[01:28] <Seveas> ProdegyX, remove these sources...
[01:28] <Seveas> and install it with synaptic
[01:28] <ray__> ProdegyX, is this like your first day using linux
[01:28] <cafuego_> !tell ProdegyX -about compiling
[01:29] <erUSUL> crafteh: yes
[01:29] <johndarkhorse> [Chameleon] : living up to your nick?
[01:29] <ProdegyX> No I have had it for a week
[01:29] <dabar> add universe to synaptic, ProdegyX.
[01:29] <ray__> is it in universe
[01:29] <[Chameleon] > johndarkhorse: I'm using my wife's laptop because my desktop can't connect.
[01:29] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: You shouldn't need to compile *at all* much like on Windows or OSX.
[01:29] <ProdegyX> I need more explaining
[01:30] <ProdegyX> How do I install a file
[01:30] <ProdegyX> you get what I mean
[01:30] <ProdegyX> Like
[01:30] <ProdegyX> I want to run SuperKaramba so I can Put a new theme on
[01:30] <ProdegyX> KDE Theme
[01:30] <[Chameleon] > johndarkhorse: OIC
[01:30] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Then install superkaramba via synaptic.
[01:30] <alturigo> mmm, interesting... linux-image-2.6.12-8-386 (2.6.12-8.12) to 2.6.12-8.13  <-- if you use breezy avoid updating that, seems to be broken
[01:30] <dabar> ProdegyX: keep your posts in one line, so I can read it.
[01:30] <cafuego_> !info superkaramba
[01:30] <Seveas> ProdegyX, stop using <enter> as punctuation
[01:30] <ubotu> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 440 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[01:30] <Seveas> it's incredibly annoying
[01:30] <ray__> cafuego, tell his
[01:31] <ProdegyX> Ok How do I install it using Synapatic
[01:31] <erUSUL> ProdegyX: fire up Synaptic (System->confi..->Synaptic) and search for supercaramba mark it for instalation and you are done
[01:31] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:31] <ProdegyX> Superkaramba isnt on there
[01:31] <[Chameleon] > alturigo: can you give more detail of what is broken with it?
[01:31] <nathanel> BlueRose`: ok, you need to install sl-modem-source as well
[01:31] <[Chameleon] > alturigo: I updated to that and am having trouble.
[01:31] <cafuego_> !repos
[01:31] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:31] <Seveas> ProdegyX, enable universe
[01:31] <[Wiebel] > how should one configure X.org in breezy?
[01:31] <Xorlev> Okies, wrote new partition table. Now should I do mkfs -b 4096 -t ext3 /dev/sda1?
[01:31] <[Wiebel] > xorgcfg seems to be missing
[01:31] <Seveas> look at what ubotu just said
[01:31] <ProdegyX> and how would I enable universe
[01:31] <ProdegyX> i am a newb
[01:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: GO to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto , read that page.
[01:32] <jediprime> i have an ess audiodrive sound card and it won't work how do I fix this?
[01:32] <ProdegyX> I KNOW HOW TO ADD A REPOSITORIE
[01:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Well, DO IT THEN.
[01:32] <johndarkhorse> ProdegyX: easy, mister. search with synaptic
[01:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Once you add universe, you will be able to install superkaramba.
[01:32] <[Wiebel] > anyone?
[01:32] <alturigo> [Chameleon] , I got a kernel panic and windows has been erased from grub boot menu
[01:33] <TokenBad> ok have problem...my background is black and even when pick a picture and apply it stays black
[01:33] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , edit corg.conf manually or use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Feel free to not privmsg me.
[01:33] <Seveas> xorg.conf of cours
[01:33] <[Chameleon] > alturigo: the windows grub boot thing is a known issue and not related to the kernel itself, but to the script that modifies the /boot/grub/menu.list after installing.
[01:33] <dabar> ProdegyX: universe is a repository. I suggest you go read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto first, then http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto . you want to enable universe repository in synaptic, and then pres the reload button, after which superkaramba will be available.
[01:33] <jediprime> is the ess sound card compatible?
[01:34] <TokenBad> any idea why that would happen
[01:34] <kairu0> hi all. i'd like an improved sources.list in breezy. i dont have jre, flash-nonfree, etc. in my package list. where can i get a new sources.list? by the way i have universe enabled
[01:34] <[Wiebel] > Seveas: is there a reason xorgcfg is no longer included ?
[01:34] <erUSUL> jediprime: go to alsa-project.org and look it up
[01:34] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , maybe it's in another package...
[01:34] <mustafu> !tell kairu0 about repos
[01:34] <[Wiebel] > it could
[01:35] <Seveas> jre -> hoary-extras (yes the jre from there works on breezy)
[01:35] <Seveas> flashplayer-mozilla -> multiverse
[01:35] <kairu0> seveas: thanks!
[01:36] <kairu0> seveas: can i get w32codecs from hoary-extras?
[01:36] <Seveas> sure
[01:36] <alturigo> [Chameleon] , I see, I thought it was related because until now I didn't notice. did you get a kernel panic too=?
[01:37] <kairu0> cool
[01:38] <KanRiNiN> is there a way to reset your synaptic repos?  When I go to repos it just tries to rebuild the libraries, I can't even view the repos
[01:38] <dabar> KanRiNiN: same issue here...you can perhaps manually edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[01:38] <TokenBad> is there a way to restart the background in kde?
[01:38] <johndarkhorse> KanRiNiN: breezy or hoary?
[01:39] <kairu0> aarggh w32codecs isnt in hoary-extras!
[01:39] <johndarkhorse> kairu0: www.mplayerhq.hu  on the download page
[01:39] <kairu0> cool thnkx
[01:39] <butcherbird> kairu0, I believe they are
[01:40] <TokenBad> kairu0, did you add all the resource sites to your repository list and then apt-get update?
[01:41] <DewDude> so is anyone else in here running breezy preview on powerpc?
[01:41] <jediprime> can you use KDE with Ubuntu?
[01:41] <DewDude> jediprime: yes
[01:41] <TokenBad> jediprime, I am now
[01:41] <DewDude> you can either sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <jediprime> how
[01:41] <DewDude> or download kubuntu
[01:41] <butcherbird> jediprime, you can I dont know why you'd want to =)
[01:41] <jediprime> ??
[01:41] <TokenBad> I like kde better than gnome
[01:41] <butcherbird> bah
[01:41] <Kyral> Don't start with the GNOME KDE War
[01:42] <DewDude> jej
[01:42] <DewDude> heh
[01:42] <lonewolff> DewDude: u am running breezy on ppc
[01:42] <DewDude> lonewolff, how's it goin for you?
[01:42] <TokenBad> not starting a war..to each their own...I just say I liked it better
[01:42] <jediprime> well nvm then
[01:42] <test34> How to enable remote desktop remotely from ssh ?
[01:42] <jediprime> don't wanna start anything
[01:42] <lonewolff> DewDude: I am even
[01:42] <Brunellus> what does it mean when bonobo returns an error of 3
[01:42] <DewDude> even as in?
[01:42] <erUSUL> well people who like kde shoul be using a kde centric distri like mepis or suse or ....
[01:42] <Versed`> I used to like kde better, both are fine and use them, but gnome seems so much cleaner.
[01:43] <lonewolff> DewDude: it is goign well, no problems so far
[01:43] <DewDude> i've tried both
[01:43] <DewDude> on ubuntu
[01:43] <DewDude> and, both run about equally
[01:43] <DewDude> at least on my ppc they do
[01:43] <dabar> DewDude: when installing, try to recommend aptitude, if you want a command line tool. Especially for something like kubuntu-desktop, with many dependencies. This is so that if the person decides to remove the package, aptitude remove removes all dependencies that were installed with the package
[01:43] <Versed`> same dew, using ubuntu on a g4-450
[01:43] <TokenBad> ok here is question...in kde a popup came up about something not responding and asked if wanted to quit...I said yes and now my background on my desktop is gone
[01:43] <DewDude> ahhh
[01:43] <georgej> Hello, Can anyone give me a tip how I get the promise s150 sx4 sata raidcontroller working on breezy (kernel 2.6.12-8-386 - sata_sx4 loaded)
[01:43] <DewDude> dabar: ok
[01:44] <lonewolff> Versed`: g4?
[01:44] <jediprime> what is the best looking gnome theme?
[01:44] <Versed`> yes
[01:44] <Versed`> mac g4
[01:44] <DewDude> i don't know anything about aptitude
[01:44] <lonewolff> what mac is that in then?
[01:44] <Brunellus> jediprime:  that's a subjective question
[01:44] <Brunellus> I like clearlooks
[01:44] <Versed`> about 5 year old.
[01:44] <erUSUL> TokenBad: have you tried somothin like log out and log in
[01:44] <lonewolff> you sure its not g3
[01:44] <Brunellus> but I run openbox inside gnome
[01:44] <Versed`> yes, I am very sure
[01:44] <robotgeek> Brunellus: same here, very nice!
[01:44] <DewDude> i need to study on gnome desktop modding and stuff
[01:44] <TokenBad> I was hoping wouldn't have to do that
[01:44] <erUSUL> TokenBad: or reboot sometimes we resort to windows like solutions ;)
[01:44] <Brunellus> although right now I'm not running gnome at all
[01:45] <DewDude> i'd like to make my desktop look like some of the screeshots i've seen
[01:45] <lonewolff> Versed`: im curious, what mac shipped with a g4 450?
[01:45] <dabar> DewDude: sudo aptitude install|remove|search is what I use. ~n is the regex for zero or more of any characters, like apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* <-- the star.
[01:45] <Brunellus> DewDude:  it isn't all that hard....
[01:45] <Brunellus> the howtos on ubuntuforums are great
[01:45] <Versed`> this one http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g4saw.shtml
[01:45] <Versed`> sawtooth
[01:45] <DewDude> well, see, i was using kde...and i installed gnome just to see if it was easier to make look unique...but, i haven't figured it out on both
[01:46] <dabar> DewDude: wanna see a really cool screenshot?
[01:46] <lonewolff> Versed`: aha, i had forgotten about the,
[01:46] <DewDude> dabar: sure
[01:46] <lonewolff> them*
[01:46] <Versed`> no problem, bought it new way back
[01:46] <Brunellus> does anyone know anything about bonobo?
[01:46] <DewDude> i've got a iMac G3 400 DV
[01:46] <lonewolff> i have a iMac G3 450 DV+
[01:46] <dabar> DewDude: let me make it...and the usability is even cooler. You should try openbox. I use it mainly for one thing - scroll wheel window fold/roll up.
[01:46] <DewDude> heh
[01:47] <DewDude> heh
[01:47] <DewDude> well, i've been using KDE because, it's all i knew how to use
[01:47] <lonewolff> (with some extra ram added)
[01:47] <butcherbird> jediprime, art.gnome.org has a faq on installing new themes and such
[01:47] <DewDude> but, after using gnome...i've pretty much gotten better at linux in general
[01:47] <DewDude> i just want something that someone will look at and drool
[01:47] <Brunellus> DewDude:  then run e17
[01:48] <Brunellus> although that will require a fair bit of work
[01:48] <DewDude> i'm low on ram mind you
[01:48] <Brunellus> but e17 looks pretty awesome.
[01:48] <DewDude> 384 MB
[01:48] <Brunellus> 384 is enough for gnome if you're careful
[01:48] <Brunellus> but when I had 256
[01:48] <Brunellus> I ran fluxbox
[01:48] <Brunellus> and loved it
[01:48] <DewDude> well
[01:48] <DewDude> actually
[01:48] <Brunellus> it looked suitably hard.
[01:48] <lonewolff> kde runs fine on 320mb, not tried gnome
[01:48] <DewDude> after installing breezy, switching to gnome
[01:48] <DewDude> i've noticed it's been running faster
[01:49] <DewDude> but i noticed the most improvement the other day when i ran an upgrade
[01:49] <memin> Hello
[01:49] <DewDude> and it installed like, almost all new xorg and ubuntu-desktop
[01:49] <wheaton> I am trying to make ubuntu's latest preview release work on a old Celeron 400 with 256 MB of ram.  old Rage 128 built in on the motherboard..  after everything is installed and it goes for first boot it doesnt work.  however during the install there is a phase where it seems to get x working..  any ideas for a noob like me?
[01:50] <DewDude> lonewolff: have you tried GRI on your imac's ATI card?
[01:50] <DewDude> errr
[01:50] <DewDude> DRI
[01:50] <JDahl> wheaton, try booting with recovery mode
[01:50] <kairu0> now i have the codecs for mplayer but i dont know where my plugin directory is. how can i find it?
[01:50] <memin> is something wrong with the us repositories some pkgs can't be downloaded?
[01:50] <DewDude> i remember in Hoary i enabled it and xorg would freeze randomly
[01:50] <wheaton> JDahl how do you do that?
[01:50] <lonewolff> DewDude: not on the Imac
[01:50] <DewDude> ok
[01:50] <benkong2> question I want to install ubuntu x86_64 on my hp zv5000 can i do a chroot install of 32bit firefox so that I have flash etc?
[01:51] <JDahl> wheaton, when you boot Ubuntu you can choose "recovery mode". That will boot Ubuntu, but not start X
[01:51] <lonewolff> graphics card is not really up to doing anything which would require 3d lol, what with the tiny amoutn of vram
[01:51] <DewDude> true
[01:51] <benkong2> how safe is breezy badger?
[01:51] <DewDude> but i thought it might provide some 2d acceleration
[01:52] <wheaton> after in the recover mode do what?
[01:52] <malv> is there a way for gaim to flash the taskbar when a message is received?
[01:52] <wheaton> it gives me a prompt after failing to boot
[01:52] <crimsun> malv: sure, enable the notification plugin and configure it
[01:52] <[Chameleon] > malv: it does so in Breezy.
[01:52] <MrMaDSeN> hello
[01:52] <malv> thank you
[01:52] <robotgeek> malv: also take a look at gaim-guifications pluin
[01:52] <JDahl> wheaton, are you booted in recovery mode? then try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:52] <[Chameleon] > malv: all apps needing attention in Breezy flash the taskbar
[01:52] <MrMaDSeN> anyone got source for sun java install via apt?
[01:53] <wheaton> thanks for the help..  I will do that now..
[01:53] <wheaton> have to switch off and try that..
[01:53] <malv> [Chameleon] : I am still on Hoary
[01:53] <wheaton> JDahl thanks so much.  If it works I will return and let you know.
[01:54] <memin> Is something wrong with the us repositories some pkgs can't be downloaded?
[01:54] <moreCowbell> I just tried booting my 20" imac from a ubunto live cd, it crashes and dumps me into the open firmware prompt (tho anything I type doesn't show up on the screen and it seems otherwise unresponsive, so I assume that's hung too)
[01:54] <butcherbird> memin, in hoary?
[01:54] <moreCowbell> is this a known problem?
[01:54] <memin> yes
[01:55] <[Chameleon] > malv: I figured.
[01:55] <jediprime> does unbuntu support wireless nic's?\
[01:55] <butcherbird> memin, just pulled a bunch of stuff no problems
[01:55] <crimsun> jediprime: sure
[01:55] <memin> mmm
[01:55] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: some models are native.
[01:55] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: the newer G5 imacs aren't very linux friendly
[01:55] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: others can be used with the ndiswrapper
[01:55] <butcherbird> apt-get update giving errors?
[01:55] <lonewolff> DewDude: i may try DRI this weekend tho, I am suitably bored atm lol
[01:55] <jediprime> how do I enable it
[01:55] <memin> can't download w32codecs
[01:56] <moreCowbell> hmmm, so am I hosed at this point until someone fixes it? or is there a fix somewhere?
[01:56] <memin> adobe
[01:56] <memin> and java
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: when the breezy releases on oct 13, i'm sure it will work
[01:56] <erUSUL> jediprime: known which card is yours will sure help us help you
[01:56] <moreCowbell> hmmm... "breezy" *searches for pre-release image*
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: i can run the installer on my imac almost flawlessly, but it hits a known bug there, too
[01:57] <butcherbird> memin, if you apt-cache search w32codecs does it return with the package?
[01:57] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: breezy will release oct 13
[01:57] <jediprime> its a iblitz wirless lan card model bwp612b
[01:57] <memin> butcherbird what is the exact command for that?
[01:57] <[Chameleon] > dabar: networking is still not working on that box.
[01:58] <moreCowbell> k thanks
[01:58] <MrMaDSeN> any had problem with intels hd audio motberboard chipsets for audio?
[01:58] <butcherbird> memin, "apt-cache search w32codecs"
[01:58] <thewayofzen> question:   sudo apt-get install blackbox   when i login to my session.. the sounds that USED to work in gnome.. no longer work
[01:58] <erUSUL> MrMaDSeN: i915?
[01:59] <annex> I moved from an old version of Xfree86 to Xorg and I have noticed a performance decrease and Xorg takes about 20-30% more CPU than before for drawing things.  I have a xinerama setup with a modern Nvidia card and an old ATI card.  I've noticed the performance issue seems to be created by using the ATI card for my second monitor since if I run only on the Nvidia card the problem goes away.  I'm using the binary nvidia driver and the free ati driv
[01:59] <MrMaDSeN> i915GAG  yes
[01:59] <[Chameleon] > dabar: dhclient says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied" and "SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied" as its first output
[01:59] <[Chameleon] > dabar: this even is as root
[02:00] <MrMaDSeN> erUSUL, i915GAG  yes
[02:00] <erUSUL> MrMaDSeN: i915 is not suported by alsa. check alsa-project.org may i be wrong...
[02:00] <jediprime> having trouble enabling the wireless nic (Iblitz)
[02:00] <robotgeek> jediprime: can u post the lspci output to pastebin ?
[02:00] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: HDA works fine, but some codecs have serious problems.
[02:00] <jediprime> not sure
[02:00] <jediprime> how do I do it
[02:01] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: i've found no current distro will install on the newer G5 imac
[02:01] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: cant get any audio at all
[02:01] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: hoary or breezy?
[02:01] <MrMaDSeN> hoary
[02:01] <memin> butcherbird Reading package lists... Done
[02:01] <memin> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:01] <memin> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:01] <memin> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:01] <memin> is only available from another source
[02:01] <memin> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:01] <robotgeek> jediprime: open up a terminal, type lspci and copy paste the resulting text to pastebin
[02:01] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: you'd need the azx driver
[02:01] <crimsun> !tell MrMaDSeN about alsa-source
[02:01] <robotgeek> !tell jediprime about pastebin
[02:02] <johndarkhorse> memin: do not paste in here, please
[02:02] <memin> sorry
[02:02] <johndarkhorse> memin: use a pastein (see /topic) or #flood
[02:02] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: otherwise, boot into a breezy live cd and run this command: ''tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[02:02] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: then tell me the output
[02:04] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: should I agree with that blue screen popping up  regarding isa pnp support?
[02:05] <absenth> is anyone here familiar with any tools that might allow management of a windows 2000 active directory from linux?
[02:05] <butcherbird> memin, do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' goto http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/366732 copy and paste to your sources.list save over any existing text
[02:05] <mpm2> not specifically ubuntu related, but does anyone know how to compile a program in say Pascal on Linux (Ubuntu) and have it be executable on someone else's Windows machine?  Is it compatible by default?  I'm very new to programming :-)
[02:06] <butcherbird> memin, then sudo apt-get update
[02:06] <xTina> mpm2: You would need a cross-compiler to do that.
[02:06] <unk0wn2u> mpm2, you have to cross-compile no it wouldn't work by default
[02:06] <erUSUL> mpm2: it is not possible to do that
[02:07] <lonewolff> hmmm, thats weird, when i turn my colors down from 24 to 16 bits the machine locks up a lot :S
[02:07] <xTina> absenth: No, but I can give you tons of whining about pam_sso ;)
[02:07] <mpm2> any of you know whether the Gnu Pascal Compiler (GPC) supports cross-compiling? Thanks for the answers
[02:07] <JDahl> mpm2, you might consider using an interpreted language like Python or Java. Then you wouldn't have to worry about compiling
[02:07] <butcherbird> memin, gotta go hope that worked
[02:07] <thewayofzen> problem: i have fully functional sound in gnome..  but in blackbox and fluxbox i do not get any sound at all.  ive searched the forums and stuff without luck.. HELP PLEASE?
[02:08] <test34> How can I remove the little icons next to the items in the Applications/Places/System menus ?
[02:08] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: the instructions tell you what to do
[02:08] <mpm2> JDahl: yes, I'm not going to be using Pacal in the long run, just wanted to share stuff I'm working on for a class with my sister who doesn't run linux yet :-)
[02:08] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : you wont have sounds of icons ect in blackbox.. there are no icons and stupid sounds..
[02:08] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: do u meant to say that mp3's don't play in fluxbox, while they do in gnome?
[02:08] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : xmms ect should still work
[02:08] <xTina> mpm2: Why don't you just recompile it on Windows?
[02:09] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : if xmms doesnt work change the audio out from esd to alsa
[02:09] <xTina> mpm2: http://www.umanitoba.ca/campus/acn/unix/software/vendor_html/gpc/gpc_55.html#SEC55 has some info btw
[02:09] <crimsun> thewayofzen: neither blackbox nor fluxbox invoke esd automatically like gnome does
[02:09] <dabar> DewDude: you here still?
[02:09] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : blackbox is leet tho, no clutter and stupid things.
[02:09] <thewayofzen> i dont want desktop sounds
[02:10] <thewayofzen> i want rhythmbox to play
[02:10] <thewayofzen> and gaim to have sounds
[02:10] <thewayofzen> etc
[02:10] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: still no sound... should I reboot
[02:10] <thewayofzen> at the same time would be nice too
[02:10] <absenth> xTina: I'm not sure what pam_sso is, so, go ahead and whine away :)
[02:10] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: you have to modprobe snd-azx
[02:10] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: open up a terminal and type esd &
[02:10] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : run esd or change the audio out to alsa not esd for those apps...
[02:10] <mpm2> xTina: thanks; recompiling on windows is a good idea :-) I'm reading that link (you found it faster than I!)
[02:10] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: I dont understand what your saying ... sorry
[02:10] <astronut> is there a good mirror that has wordpess 1.5?
[02:11] <astronut> err, s/mirror/repository
[02:11] <astronut> or will the debian version work?
[02:11] <JDahl> I justed upgraded to Breezy on my "messing around" machine... You guys did a really nice job with the eye-candy!
[02:11] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: in a Terminal, sudo modprobe snd-azx
[02:11] <thewayofzen> im guessing rhythmbox doesnt allow me to change its output
[02:11] <jediprime> is ubuntu debian?
[02:11] <robotgeek> !info wordpress
[02:11] <ubotu> wordpress: (a semantic personal publishing platform or weblog manager), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 1392 kB
[02:11] <astronut> 1.2 is old, 1.5 is later version
[02:11] <mik3> does converting rpm's to deb's does alien usually take a long time (depending on hardware obviously)
[02:11] <xTina> absenth: It's a PAM module from Microsoft's Services for Unix. And it's weird. Though it's in good company with pam_unix in that regard ;)
[02:11] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : am sure it has an option somewhere...
[02:11] <Quinthius> thewayofzen: rhythmbox should use whatever output you have set in the multimedia selector
[02:11] <robotgeek> astronut: i know, just download off the wordpress site
[02:11] <Quinthius> thewayofzen: which is the gstreamer output
[02:11] <astronut> is there an unoffical repository with 1.5 packages?
[02:12] <astronut> robotgeek: not .deb's
[02:12] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : <robotgeek> thewayofzen: open up a terminal and type esd &
[02:12] <jediprime> thanks for everyones help I will be back tommarrow
[02:12] <xTina> mik3: No.
[02:12] <robotgeek> astronut: true
[02:12] <jediprime> I am converting completely to Linux and need help
[02:12] <thewayofzen> i have sound in XMMS with alsa
[02:12] <thewayofzen> no alsa option in gaim
[02:13] <dabar> jediprime: ubuntu is not exactly debian, no, ubuntu is ubuntu.
[02:13] <lsuactiafner> jediprime : take 2 calming pills.. linux rocks..
[02:13] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: then log out of GNOME and back in
[02:13] <thewayofzen> which is better.. alsa or esd?
[02:13] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: you might have to set command "aplay %s"
[02:13] <crimsun> ALSA directly
[02:13] <jediprime> Linux does rock
[02:13] <thewayofzen> where %s is alsa or esd?
[02:14] <crimsun> no, that's literal
[02:14] <thewayofzen> ok
[02:14] <thewayofzen> i get no such file or directory
[02:14] <mik3> how do i install EVERY perl lib available
[02:15] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: open up gaim, go to preferences, then sounds...then it says command..there aplay is the command, %s is the sound file
[02:15] <absenth> xTina: think setting up a linux box with samba as a bdc, I MIGHT be able to manage users/groups?
[02:16] <robotgeek> astronut: breezy has the newer version, 1.5.2, but i guess you'lll have to wait
[02:16] <lancer285> Hey guys, I'm having some problems w/ my DNS settings
[02:16] <thewayofzen> i think i might have fixed it lemme check.. brb
[02:16] <dabar> robotgeek: can you pastebin #ubuntu-nun so I can save those ideas I had?
[02:17] <saidin> hello..
[02:17] <lsuactiafner> lancer285 : edit /etc/resolv.conf
[02:17] <lancer285> for some reason the computer keeps adding <IP_ADDRESS> into my DNS list, and its keeping the browser from working
[02:17] <iratsu> how stable is breezy?
[02:17] <xTina> absenth: I have no idea :)
[02:17] <lsuactiafner> lancer285 : it shouldnt.
[02:17] <benplaut> iratsu: quite stable enough to use
[02:17] <lancer285> lsuactiafner, I know, but it is. (:
[02:17] <benplaut> free of mot bugs
[02:18] <lsuactiafner> lool
[02:18] <lancer285> lsuactiafner, We moved and got a differernt network setup in the house now. I don't use <IP_ADDRESS> as the gateway for anything now.
[02:18] <saidin> does anyone know if its possible to install this dstro while you have redhat on <.< cause i have no cd to burn it to
[02:18] <robotgeek> dabar: sure, gimme a moment
[02:19] <unk0wn2u> saidin, I'll sell you a cd for $90
[02:19] <saidin> >.>
[02:19] <saidin> well i meant
[02:19] <saidin> i dont have a burner
[02:19] <unk0wn2u> saidin, I'll sell you a cd for $90
[02:19] <saidin> or a cd to burn it to anyways
[02:19] <lancer285> lsuactiafner, /etc/resolv.conf just has the right DNS in it now. There's something that's adding the local address automatically
[02:20] <flugh> man, why does ANYONE use anything besides ubuntu? why? you tell me... (sorry, having a moment here  ;)
[02:20] <kairu0> flugh, because win98 JUST WORKS! (joke~
[02:20] <test34> Can I tell synaptic to use a directory as a repository ?
[02:20] <unk0wn2u> flugh, fedora has system-config-tools
[02:21] <rob_p> lancer285:  Is your IP static or dynamic?
[02:21] <saidin> it was the only cd i had >.> not by choice
[02:21] <xTina> saidin: Yes, it is possible.
[02:21] <lancer285> rob_p its dynamic
[02:22] <flugh> unk0wn2u: bugger FC*
[02:22] <saidin> how would i go about that tina <.<
[02:22] <rob_p> lancer285:  Then your router is misconfigured.
[02:22] <flugh> unk0wn2u: i have to use it at work. but i sit at home with ubuntu, and wonder WHY???? :)
[02:22] <rob_p> lancer285:  login and check your dns settings in the router.
[02:22] <lancer285> rob_p okay
[02:23] <johndarkhorse> test34: you'll need specific objects in any directory you use for a local repo
[02:23] <flugh> kairu0: hehe, that's funny. you know, my dad still swears win 3.11 worked too. dunno what he's smokin'
[02:23] <xTina> saidin: Basically you download an installer kernel and initrd to your drive, and tell your boot manager or a sufficiently clever boot cd to boot it.
[02:23] <xTina> saidin: This should enable you to do a network install.
[02:23] <kairu0> flugh, win 3.11 was very effective for playing solitaire and moving around program groups
[02:23] <lancer285> rob_p in my router, I have the dns server set to 'static' with the numbers for the dns plugged in
[02:23] <MrMaDSeN> damn sound :(
[02:23] <johndarkhorse> test34: to learn more, go read about apt-build
[02:24] <lancer285> instead of using dhcp to assign the dns
[02:24] <saidin> uhh i didnt understand any of that >.>
[02:24] <saidin> im noob to linux lol
[02:24] <dabaR> XD
[02:24] <xTina> saidin: Then you probably want to get a CD. You can order one for free on the website.
[02:25] <saidin> ya and wait a month <.<
[02:25] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: no progress at all
[02:25] <saidin> im using an extremly old version of redhat lol
[02:25] <xTina> saidin: Ask a friend to burn it?
[02:25] <rob_p> lancer285:  Are you sure that you have the DNS IP addresses entered correctly in the router?
[02:25] <dabaR> saidin: debian has a netinstall cd, very small for download...
[02:25] <[Chameleon] > Anybody tried upgrading Breezy x86 to Breezy AMD64?
[02:25] <dabaR> or even a floppy, have a floppy?
[02:26] <saidin> i can find afew floppys i guess <.<
[02:26] <lancer285> rob_p yes, I talked to Qwest DSL, and that was the numers he gave me. Like I said. if I run the network admin tool in ubuntu, it lists the local and the correct dns IP
[02:26] <dabaR> try downloading the debian flopppy. #debian I dont think ubuntu has one.
[02:26] <saidin> ok ty
[02:27] <dabaR> 5$
[02:27] <dabaR> heh
[02:27] <lancer285> rob_p: then I have to delete the local (<IP_ADDRESS>) but for some strange reason, the local address KEEPS showing up in that list after a few hours
[02:27] <saidin> <.<
[02:27] <malv> what exactly is a backport?
[02:27] <saidin> would it be possible if i use a floppy boot to install ubuntu
[02:28] <rob_p> lancer285:  Again, your router is at fault!  Either it is misconfigured or it's broken!
[02:28] <dabaR> a modification of a package for a newer unstable version of gnu/linux to work with a stable older version.
[02:28] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: what have you done?
[02:28] <xTina> malv: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:28] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: nothing.. logged out.. logged in
[02:29] <dabaR> crimsun: right? thats what a bacport is, right?
[02:29] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: started vlc... no sound
[02:29] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[02:29] <lancer285> rob_p I guess I was thinking that there was a setting somewhere that's telling my comp to use both the local and the global ip addresses for the DNS. It keeps adding that entry. My router is doing that?
[02:29] <crimsun> dabaR: more or less
[02:29] <rob_p> lancer285:  Yes.  I believe it is.
[02:29] <lancer285> kzm, i'll see what I can do
[02:30] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: 0: Realtek ALC880  1: SigmaTel STAC9759/51
[02:30] <crimsun> oh geez
[02:31] <MrMaDSeN> yes theres two
[02:31] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: I'm sorry, but your codec is currently unsupported _completely_
[02:31] <crimsun> the ALC880 is a complete mess, and realtek needs to pass its modifications back to ALSA
[02:31] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: ok... :((((
[02:31] <pr0tocol> sup guys
[02:31] <kairu0> sup dogggg
[02:31] <MrMaDSeN> well it is completely new... btw...
[02:31] <pr0tocol> nuttin much
[02:31] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: realtek has a modified set of drivers that they provide that will give you sound, but it will be distorted
[02:32] <pr0tocol> so...anyone here got their FX5200 to work with Breezy yet?
[02:32] <kairu0> which environment variable decides the language of the interface? is it LANG?
[02:32] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: ok then...
[02:32] <crimsun> $LANG
[02:32] <kairu0> or LANGUAGE?
[02:32] <kairu0> cool thnkx
[02:32] <johndarkhorse> dabaR: clean up after yourself, please
[02:32] <crimsun> kairu0: keep in mind there's $LOCALE, too
[02:32] <pr0tocol> anyone?
[02:32] <tarawsa33> hey all! Need help getting to understand mounting usb device. It wont show as /dev/sd*
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: seeing how I don't have one, no.
[02:33] <ubuntu> can ubuntu be installed on a dual boot system (windows, Linspire)
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: does it not work with l-r-m in Breezy?
[02:33] <kairu0> my LANG is "es_ES.UTF-8:en_US.UTF-8" is this legal?
[02:33] <dabaR> tarawsa33: do you run gnome? you know what gnome-volume-manager is?
[02:33] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: it was also nearly impossible to find win32 drivers for it....
[02:33] <pr0tocol> crimsun: l-r-m?
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: linux-restricted-modules
[02:33] <pr0tocol> crimsun: I just did an upgrade...yup
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: so it _does_ or _doesn't_ work?
[02:34] <pr0tocol> crimsun: I get the nvidia logo, but then it crashes... *sigh* same problem for the past week
[02:34] <pr0tocol> crimsun: doesn't give me an actual error...
[02:34] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: what about the sigmatel... it a creative soundblaster live card... would it work u think?
[02:34] <crimsun> pr0tocol: ask in #nvidia
[02:34] <kairu0> crimsun, where can i read about the locale variables?
[02:34] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: it will
[02:35] <crimsun> kairu0: search google
[02:35] <crimsun> kairu0: you should pick one
[02:35] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: well it shouldn
[02:35] <pr0tocol> how the heck do you scroll channels in irssi?
[02:35] <MrMaDSeN> argh
[02:35] <dabaR> pr0tocol: pgup
[02:35] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: well it shouldn't work now?
[02:35] <cusco> hi!
[02:35] <pr0tocol> dabaR: no I mean to different channels
[02:35] <dabaR> to switch betweeen chans, alt+chanNm
[02:35] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: the sblive will work. The intel hda probably won't.
[02:35] <cusco> how do you sycnronize with a nokai 6630 ?
[02:35] <cusco> nokia
[02:36] <pr0tocol> thanks
[02:36] <dabaR> pr0tocol: $10
[02:37] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: hehe.. ok... have no idea what I should do to get it work either
[02:37] <dabaR> come back ubuntu
[02:37] <dabaR> later
[02:37] <test34> How can I enable remote desktop remotely from ssh ?
[02:37] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: I recommend you try breezy preview
[02:37] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: it's easier to select the sblive as your default sound card there
[02:38] <astronut> robotgeek_away: how bad are the dependencies?
[02:38] <xTina> test34: Remote desktop ... as in ...? X11-Forwarding? XDMCP? VNC?
[02:38] <pr0tocol> well guys..
[02:38] <pr0tocol> no help in #nvidia
[02:39] <johndarkhorse> test34: ask uncle google "vnc over ssh'
[02:39] <test34> xtina: vnc
[02:40] <pr0tocol> anyone here using an FX5200 that got it to work in Breezy?
[02:40] <test34> johndarkhorse, I dont want to use vnc over ssh, I just want to enable it on the remote computer, and than vnc normally
[02:42] <test34> because I don't want to leave the vnc server running all the time
[02:42] <crimsun> pr0tocol: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[02:42] <crimsun> pr0tocol: paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:43] <pr0tocol> crimsun: nothing shows up :P
[02:44] <crimsun> pr0tocol: lsmod|grep ^nvidia
[02:44] <alfmatos> anyone with experience on setting up a ubuntu guest for UML ?
[02:44] <robotgeek> astronut: dependencies for whtat?
[02:45] <pr0tocol> crimsun: here is the output
[02:45] <astronut> robotgeek: wordpress, got it though, thanks
[02:45] <pr0tocol> nvidia               3711364  0
[02:45] <robotgeek> astronut: oh okay, was away
[02:45] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: theres an option to choose your soundcard in breezy?
[02:45] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: yes, System> Preferences> Sound
[02:46] <pr0tocol> crimsun: got it? ;)
[02:46] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: you can do it in Breezy, too, but it's much less intuitive (you have to do a bunch of things from the command line)
[02:46] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: ok... dl'ing the iso now
[02:46] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: I meant you can do it in Hoary, too...
[02:46] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I have that exact card, but I am still on Hoary. I refuse to try an upgrade before it is a public release - Everytime I do, there is major breakage...
[02:46] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: hehe.. I got that
[02:47] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: first time it happens to me. I was able to fix the problem before
[02:47] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: but from what I see I don't think the card/driver is being used
[02:47] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: did you edit xorg.conf?
[02:47] <cusco> anyone connecting a nokia trough a usb cable?
[02:47] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: lol only about a dozen times, removing, adding modules and etc
[02:48] <getVOIPfromME> cusco: no, but my Treo is connecting nicely! =)
[02:48] <pr0tocol> oolon: good job ;)
[02:48] <pr0tocol> crimsun: so any ideas?
[02:48] <oolon> :D
[02:48] <cusco> getVOIPfromME: what do you use?
[02:48] <cusco> ttrough usb or bluethooth getVOIPfromME ?
[02:49] <getVOIPfromME> cusco: USB
[02:49] <_rb_> whats a good channel to ask questions about .cue files ?
[02:49] <pr0tocol> _rb_: whats the question?
[02:49] <MrMaDSeN> any idea when Breezy is a official release?
[02:50] <cusco> getVOIPfromME: what app did u install?
[02:50] <pr0tocol> _rb_: and the answer is: any channel that deal with burning apps or so
[02:50] <MrMaDSeN> will be... even
[02:50] <_rb_> well, i've got 4 bin files and only one cue file. I wanna know if i can change the cue file and save it for the other bins
[02:50] <pr0tocol> _rb_: yup
[02:50] <robotgeek> dabaR: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2282
[02:50] <getVOIPfromME> cusco: j-pilot - but its only for Palm devices
[02:50] <jorgp2> having a hoary system, is there a way to have apt-get only download what packages it would take to upgrade to breezy?
[02:50] <cusco> oh
[02:50] <pr0tocol> _rb_: you're going to have to edit the cue file, though, and replace it everytime with the name of the .bin
[02:50] <_rb_> so its just text ?
[02:51] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: installed restricted-modules package?
[02:51] <cusco> jorgp2: upgrade your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:51] <pr0tocol> jorgp2: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace anything 'hoary' with 'breezy'
[02:51] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: lol yea, bro.  still nothing. I mean, I get to see the nvidia logo briefly until it dies on me and goes back into console
[02:51] <crimsun> pr0tocol: I've stopped troubleshooting Nvidia hardware & software since I stopped using their hardware
[02:52] <jorgp2> I dont want to install it, just download the packages
[02:52] <pr0tocol> crimsun: ati? matrox?
[02:52] <crimsun> onboard Intel
[02:52] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: definetly not ati
[02:52] <pr0tocol> jorgp2: then you're going to have to add breezy repos
[02:52] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: so you popped out of the dark ;)
[02:52] <jorgp2> ok, got it
[02:52] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: :)
[02:52] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: can you believe I still have the SAME problem?
[02:52] <nitinshantharam> guys, if i have a simple setup so my unix user accounts can recieve mail (postfix) how can i make it so that that unix account at all my domains will recieve it ie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and nitin@localhost are the same?
[02:53] <pr0tocol> this is not only embarrassing, but makes me look/feel like a noob
[02:53] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: 5 days,
[02:53] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: like I said before anout pre-releases....
[02:53] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: more or less
[02:53] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: yea i know
[02:53] <getVOIPfromME> *about
[02:53] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: don't worry, once it comes to you, you'll be wiser!
[02:53] <getVOIPfromME> =)
[02:53] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: but I've done it before...and fixed the problems I had with no problems. The problme is, and I can guarantee it, is xorg
[02:54] <pr0tocol> problem*
[02:54] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: u already filed a bug on bugzilla, din't you?
[02:54] <pr0tocol> if it's giving me a "Caught signal 11" error, it is because of a program segmentation fault
[02:54] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: yessir
[02:55] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: as well as a handfull of others
[02:55] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I could send you my xorg.conf, but its muddled with my Wacom drawing tablet config....
[02:55] <pr0tocol> lol
[02:55] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: what card are you using?
[02:55] <getVOIPfromME> FX5200
[02:55] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: just tell me which modules you have enabled
[02:56] <cycom> anyone had an odd problem where when ubuntu gets to the login screen, they here the normal drum sound once, then an 'echo' of it, and then no sound again?
[02:57] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: so you're a gimp-er/photoshop-er?
[02:57] <pr0tocol> cycom: what sound card?
[02:58] <cycom> pr0tocol: intel 82801
[02:58] <reiki> what can I expect if I just plug in my Kodak digital camera into the usb?
[02:58] <cycom> pr0tocol: (ac97)
[02:58] <pr0tocol> cycom: did you adjust the volume?
[02:58] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: Gimp - why?
[02:58] <cycom> pr0tocol: yeah
[02:58] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: you any good?
[02:58] <pr0tocol> cycom: and still no sound?
[02:58] <pr0tocol> cycom: make sure that the volume isn't muted
[02:58] <robotgeek> reiki: it should just work, and photo importer should import photos automagically
[02:59] <cycom> pr0tocol: I said I adjusted it.
[02:59] <reiki> robotgeek: that would just be too easy :)  thanks!
[02:59] <cycom> pr0tocol: It's not muted
[02:59] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I think so, but usualy my Blender / Wings 3d work needs very little post-prod
[02:59] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: I have some drawings I'm doing (1 I finished) on www.myspace.com/yaris that I'm looking for someone to color in for me
[02:59] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: Yafray is amazing
[02:59] <cycom> pr0tocol: since it made noise, twice, when it should have only once, and then stopped working
[02:59] <reiki> robotgeek, it doesn't remove them from the camera when it imports them does it?
[02:59] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: Might be a job for inkscape
[02:59] <robotgeek> reiki: i don't think so
[02:59] <pr0tocol> cycom: what sound server? ALSA or OSS?
[03:00] <reiki> robotgeek, ok thanks
[03:00] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: either or
[03:00] <cycom> pr0tocol: alsa
[03:00] <robotgeek> reiki: i only did it once, and it worked very well on my friends camera
[03:00] <pr0tocol> damn I hate alsa
[03:00] <cycom> pr0tocol: it worked ONE time, but I'm not sure why
[03:00] <pr0tocol> cycom: tried alsa-config?
[03:00] <reiki> robotgeek, ok... I'll give it a go
[03:00] <cycom> pr0tocol: hang on
[03:00] <crimsun> Ubuntu doesn't ship alsaconf
[03:00] <cycom> crimsun: exactly
[03:00] <pr0tocol> oh well
[03:00] <pr0tocol> thats retarted
[03:00] <crimsun> the rationale is in the alsa-utils changelog
[03:01] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I dont see the drawing
[03:01] <nitinshantharam> guys, if i have a simple setup so my unix user accounts can recieve mail (postfix) how can i make it so that that unix account at all my domains will recieve it ie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and nitin@localhost are the same?
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> hello
[03:02] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: you have to click my images
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> hello guys
[03:02] <pr0tocol> see me looking serious? click on that pic...you'll get more
[03:02] <robotgeek> ubuntu_novice: we heard you the first time, hi
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> hi robotgeek
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> i havea uestion
[03:03] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice: shoot
[03:03] <ubuntu_novice> how am i going to share floppy drives
[03:03] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: sup >:)
[03:03] <reiki> robotgeek: amazing... not only discovered the camera and opened photo importer, but also correctly identified the camera and it does have a checkbox to remove them from the camera after importing. Absolutely brilliant.
[03:04] <robotgeek> reiki: :)
[03:04] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: Hi; nuthin' much really
[03:04] <johndarkhorse> reiki: whats that?
[03:04] <robotgeek> johndarkhorse: his camera was detected by ubuntu, and it imported the photos correctly in a fantastic manner :)
[03:04] <ubuntu_novice> anyone?... thatsmy big problem
[03:04] <reiki> johndarkhorse, I just plugged in my digital camera into usb for the first time in Ubuntu. And was very pleasantly surprised
[03:04] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: heh, same here
[03:05] <Vespoli> how can I update my packages !!! I keep being asked for a root password which I cannot properly do!!!
[03:05] <reiki> robotgeek, do we have to dismount the camera somehow? Or just unplug it when we're done?
[03:05] <Vespoli> I enabled root and stuff and it _still_ fails
[03:05] <Vespoli> omfg
[03:05] <apokryphos> Vespoli: you're not asked for root password ever
[03:05] <robotgeek> !tell Vespoli about root
[03:05] <Vespoli> robotgeek, I know about root stuff
[03:05] <ssdd65> how do i load the lm_sensors module?
[03:05] <apokryphos> Vespoli: evidently not
[03:05] <Vespoli> :-/ ok
[03:05] <Vespoli> ssdd65, insmod lm_sensors
[03:06] <apokryphos> Vespoli: Ubuntu doesn't use root, it uses sudo.
[03:06] <ubuntu_novice> I installed ubuntu in a network how am i ganna share floppy drives and hard drives?
[03:06] <apokryphos> Vespoli: and the sudo pass is *your* pass
[03:06] <robotgeek> reiki: try to unmount it, and then unplug. i am pretty sure that it mounts it as a usb disk :)
[03:06] <Vespoli> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
[03:06] <Vespoli> :x
[03:06] <ubuntu_novice> help help help
[03:06] <ssdd65> insmod lm_sensors
[03:06] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice: please don't spam/flood; if someone can answer they will try to.
[03:06] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: lol I have the same problem, as I was telling robotgeek...and I JUST did another apt-get upgrade
[03:07] <pr0tocol> lmao
[03:07] <robotgeek> ssdd65: or sudo modprobe lm_sensors
[03:07] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: those X problems?
[03:07] <ssdd65> tried that....
[03:07] <ubuntu_novice> sorry apocrypos
[03:07] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: oh yea
[03:07] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: weird. X is pretty much fine for almost everyone now. You said you tried purging down to ubuntu-base, eh?
[03:07] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice: that's alright
[03:08] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: when I do startx, get something about "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/protocol/.Xauthority"
[03:08] <Vespoli> hmm why is the package update utility not responding to my clicks on it >:O
[03:08] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: this can be done with samba or nfs. samba can also share drives/folders with computers running windows
[03:08] <Vespoli> its not opening anything
[03:08] <reiki> robotgeek: I can't see it mounted in /media ... hmmmmm
[03:08] <Vespoli> even though it *should* work
[03:08] <Vespoli> :-/
[03:08] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: have you Googled? I've heard of that a few times in the past; can't remember the fix
[03:08] <ubuntu_novice> sorry about that... because im in a panic sitution ryt now, my boss is keep bugging me on this
[03:08] <z|bandito> just do sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:08] <z|bandito> from the terminal Vespoli
[03:08] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: you think that the nvidia binary glx and the nvidia Ubuntu package could be conflicting?
[03:09] <ubuntu_novice> samba?
[03:09] <Vespoli> z|bandito, command ?
[03:09] <toran> is there a way to completely set my alsa mixer settings back to the ubuntu default?
[03:09] <z|bandito> if it won't work, that will do it
[03:09] <z|bandito> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:09] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you installed both?
[03:09] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: like a moron, yes
[03:09] <toran> I've kinda messed them up, and I can't record sound (like with a mic) anymore
[03:09] <z|bandito> or really, sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <Vespoli> :D
[03:09] <Vespoli> k
[03:09] <ubuntu_novice> samba? is it another version of linux?
[03:09] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: LMAO
[03:09] <z|bandito> then sudo apt-get uprgrade
[03:09] <FR500> hello
[03:09] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: yes. look in synaptic if yoiu have already installed it, if not, go and install it
[03:09] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: I doubt it, actually. Is there a list of packs the binary glx brings in?
[03:09] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: no, samba is no other linux version
[03:10] <apokryphos> hi FR500
[03:10] <z|bandito> update updates the package list, upgrade actually changes the packages themselves
[03:10] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: not that i'm aware of, no
[03:10] <z|bandito> when they are installed
[03:10] <z|bandito> if that makes sense
[03:10] <FR500> installing a driver for my webcam, dpkg throws me errors about modules.alias, what can i do
[03:10] <z|bandito> afaik
[03:10] <ubuntu_novice> sorry abt this...but where is that synaptic?
[03:10] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: it's a program for linux :)
[03:10] <z|bandito> ymmv
[03:10] <z|bandito> ..fwiw
[03:10] <z|bandito> =p
[03:10] <ubuntu_novice> ahh ok
[03:11] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: did the binary glx install correctly, or not?
[03:11] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: yea it did
[03:11] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: so why the ubu pack as well? ;-)
[03:11] <nathanel> system/system settings/synapti package manager
[03:11] <z|bandito> samba is to network to windows fileshares
[03:11] <ubuntu_novice> how am i going to locate that?
[03:11] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: anyhow, I reckon you could use a debfoster, or...
[03:11] <apokryphos> d'oh, I forget the name. One sec.
[03:11] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: when I did the upgrade again it installed it...not only that, the nvidia binary wasn't working either
[03:12] <pr0tocol> lol
[03:12] <apokryphos> hm, annoying.
[03:12] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: system/system settings/synaptic package manager on the top of the screen?
[03:12] <ubuntu_novice> is SYNAPTIC under applications? places?  or what?
[03:13] <Snoblower> can someone help me? i just finished downloading the live CD and i'm not exactly sure what i'm doing..
[03:13] <z|bandito> yakyak is sure slow atm
[03:13] <z|bandito> oops
[03:13] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: actually, you can use debfoster for it. If you don't mind removing things down, I'd say use it with conjugation of ubuntu-desktop (or ubuntu-base if you don't care about reinstalling it)
[03:13] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: asked any other pros on here? No luck? I'm far from one ;-)
[03:14] <Flying_Eagle> Snoblower, we do neither ;)
[03:14] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: open a terminal window and enter: sudo synaptic
[03:14] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: NOTHING! heh. even went to #nividia and they didn't know
[03:14] <pr0tocol> what do you mean re-installing?
[03:14] <Snoblower> can anyone help?
[03:14] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: if I were you, I'd go debfoster way probably.
[03:15] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: if you go down to ubuntu-base, you'll need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and its dependencies eventually
[03:15] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: got it?
[03:15] <ubuntu_novice> not yet
[03:15] <astronut> i can't get wordpress to work
[03:15] <astronut> either version
[03:15] <ubuntu_novice> terminal window?
[03:15] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: so all my lifes work gone...
[03:15] <astronut> it won't connect to the sql server
[03:15] <ubuntu_novice> where is that?
[03:15] <Ehrys> Hello, I have a problem with the installation. When it does the apt configuration during the installation, it hangs while testing the network repository. I have tried waiting 20 minutes, changing both network cable and card. I have changed hub and router also providing the same results. Is there any way that I can get it to either work, or skip that part
[03:15] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: well, it would only remove packages (applications), that is
[03:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i find the device node for a usb drive i've plugged in that shows up in lsusb?
[03:16] <nathanel> right click somwhere on the desktop and the select open terminal
[03:16] <FR500> installing a driver for my webcam, dpkg throws me errors about overwriting modules.alias, what can i do?
[03:16] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: and re-install ubuntu from scratch without removing /home?
[03:16] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: right click somewhere on the desktop and then select open terminal
[03:16] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you'd do another sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, yes
[03:17] <Snoblower> alrighty, i just finished downloading the live CD and when i click open it says, "Windows cannot open this file" can i get some help? :(
[03:17] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: the issues that would stop you doing it: (i) low bandwidth/slow comp; (ii) applications you wouldn't want/would be hard to, reinstall
[03:17] <Ehrys> Snoblower: It's an ISO you have to right it to a CD and boot from it
[03:17] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, are you insane?
[03:17] <FR500> when i write lsusb with my devices connected, i get nothing
[03:17] <FR500> no output at all
[03:17] <FR500> what to do?
[03:17] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: ok, and how do I go about doing this? (sorry not too much of a deb/ubuntu user.  was using arch and slack before)
[03:18] <Snoblower> unk0wn2u, not insane, just not computer-literate
[03:18] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: debfoster --help  :P
[03:18] <pr0tocol> lol
[03:18] <pr0tocol> that'll do it
[03:18] <edgarin> Hi
[03:18] <ubuntu_novice> nathanel: I cant get any "OPEN TERMINAL",what can I see is "CReate flder",Create launcher,Etc.
[03:18] <edgarin> I have problems with installation of Ubuntu in a machine old the bios not contain a boot from cdrom
[03:18] <marcin_ant> hi all
[03:18] <unk0wn2u> FR500, do you have a /proc/usb dir?
[03:18] <edgarin> howto create a floppy to boot from cdrom
[03:18] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: using breezy?
[03:19] <FR500> unk0wn2u: yes but it's empty
[03:19] <FR500> it used to work before
[03:19] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how can I remove some file owned by root from my user account using nautilus?
[03:19] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: so I'm getting the feeling I'll also have to rename 'breezy' back to 'hoary' in the source.list file, right?
[03:19] <unk0wn2u> FR500, did you rebuild a kernel?
[03:19] <FR500> nope
[03:19] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you want to downgrade to hoary?
[03:19] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: hell yea
[03:20] <ubuntu_novice> xTina: what is breezy?
[03:20] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: a version of ubuntu
[03:20] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: you most likely either have hoary or breezy
[03:20] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you can do that differently, then. Just change the apt_preferences with a hoary priority field
[03:20] <pr0tocol> ubuntu_novice: new unstable release of Ubuntu. 1) Warty 2)Hoary (current) 3) Breezy (preview release)
[03:20] <mik3> what's the apt-get install name for Qt libs? i need to install it
[03:20] <Ehrys> Snoblower: I can't PM you because I'm not registered
[03:20] <Snoblower> oh
[03:20] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: not entirely sure how to do it, but it should be easy to find out if you do a lil' research methinks
[03:20] <ubuntu_novice> ahhok
[03:21] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: if you can't find "open terminal" you're very likely to have breezy (or should think about getting glasses *g*)
[03:21] <ubuntu_novice> im using hoary
[03:21] <Ehrys> Snoblower: You have to write the image to a CDROM using Nero or some program. Then boot from the CDROM
[03:21] <Snoblower> ok...
[03:21] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: Then you either lost your terminal menu entry by some unfortunate accident or should get glasses ;)
[03:21] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: anyway, a Terminal can also be found somewhere buried in the menu on top of your screen
[03:22] <ubuntu_novice> no i cant really see anything
[03:22] <z|bandito> upper left menu
[03:22] <ubuntu_novice> sorry... but i tried andtriedand tried
[03:23] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal?
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: starting nautilus as root is a bad idea. it screws up your userspace
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> ahhhh
[03:23] <unk0wn2u> alt f2 type gnome-terminal
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> ok
[03:23] <Ehrys> Hello, I have a problem with the installation. When it does the apt configuration during the installation, it hangs while testing the network repository. I have tried waiting 20 minutes, changing both network cable and card. I have changed hub and router also providing the same results. Is there any way that I can get it to either work, or skip that part. Please?
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> thats is
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> THANK YOU very much
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> I love yu
[03:23] <KanRiNiN> hi
[03:23] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, I don't want to start nautilus as root
[03:24] <apokryphos> Hello
[03:24] <KanRiNiN> anyone ever hear of a gtk-critical error when starting totem?
[03:24] <apokryphos> KanRiNiN: if you pastebin the full error it's more likely that someone'll help
[03:24] <MrMaDSeN> yes.. get rid of it... and use vlc
[03:24] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, I just want to remove some file owned by root - propably this feature is still ignored by nautilus users
[03:24] <KanRiNiN> apokryphos, tell me...enlighten me...about pastebin?
[03:25] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, s/users/developers
[03:25] <xTina> marcin_ant: why don't you just use a Terminal?
[03:25] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: do you have synaptic open?
[03:26] <marcin_ant> xTina, I use but I define myself as so called 'power user'
[03:26] <mik3> can i install kde headers on this system?
[03:26] <KanRiNiN> pastebin http://pastebin.com/366765
[03:26] <KanRiNiN> gtk-critical error
[03:26] <Nexinarus> anyone know if GLaux works in ubuntu linux?
[03:27] <apokryphos> mik3: of course
[03:27] <DewDude> dude, you can do pretty much anything on ubuntu
[03:27] <marcin_ant> xTina, anyway I thought that there is some way to remove file from nautilus using some gtksudo or ssh thing...
[03:27] <DewDude> it keeps getting better
[03:27] <Ehrys> Except install it ^.^
[03:27] <marcin_ant> xTina, I need to test ssh maybe
[03:27] <durt> whats the difference between  the printing commands "lpr" and "lp"?
[03:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i mount a usb device that i can see in lsusb?
[03:27] <xTina> marcin_ant: ssh?!?!?
[03:28] <KanRiNiN> did I get that right apokryphos
[03:28] <mik3> apokryphos : how?
[03:28] <Ehrys> What are the domain names/IP Addresses of the update repositories?
[03:28] <apokryphos> mik3: sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[03:28] <JDahl> will it be easier/possible in Breezy to watch video streams in Mozilla FF?
[03:28] <unk0wn2u> marcin_ant, sudo nautilus
[03:28] <apokryphos> KanRiNiN: that's correct
[03:28] <ubuntu_> can ubuntu be installed from the livecd?
[03:28] <apokryphos> ubuntu_: unfortunately not, nope.
[03:28] <mik3> is kdebase-dev the same?
[03:28] <apokryphos> mik3: no
[03:29] <mik3> eek
[03:29] <marcin_ant> xTina, heh it works - ctrl+l ssh://localhost
[03:29] <ubuntu_> apokryphos, god damnit
[03:29] <RRubin> my xchat seems to be using ctrl-u for the search function, even though its not bound in the prefs
[03:29] <apokryphos> mik3: kde-devel brings in kdebase-dev though, probably
[03:29] <xTina> marcin_ant: and this is helping exactly how?
[03:29] <RRubin> i use devorac, so the u key is labled f
[03:29] <apokryphos> mik3: and yes, indeed it does.
[03:29] <marcin_ant> xTina, heh not yet
[03:29] <mik3> oh ok
[03:29] <Snoblower> ok, so i burned the ISO to the cd, now what? :( yes, i'm that dumb
[03:29] <marcin_ant> xTina, still cannot remove this file....
[03:29] <Ehrys> Reboot
[03:30] <marcin_ant> xTina, propably I need to ssh as root
[03:30] <Snoblower> reboot computer?
[03:30] <mik3> i've installed so much arbitrary crab just to get a MUD client to work properly, can't get anything to do what i want =/
[03:30] <Ehrys> with the disk in
[03:30] <mik3> s/crab/crap
[03:30] <xTina> marcin_ant: why the hell would you want to do that?!?
[03:30] <unk0wn2u> marcin_ant, sudo nautilus
[03:30] <Snoblower> er.. ok
[03:30] <xTina> marcin_ant: log in remotely just to become root?
[03:30] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, it is not good solution for me
[03:30] <apokryphos> mik3: no real idea what that is, I'm afraid. But if it depends on kde headers you want the kde-devel pack
[03:30] <nathanel> durt: one comes from BSD and the other from system V (IIRC). they have different option syntax, but both are provided by cups.
[03:30] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, because I still need to run terminal to sudo nautilus
[03:30] <unk0wn2u> alt f2
[03:31] <marcin_ant> xTina, know better way?
[03:31] <xTina> marcin_ant: yes, use a terminal
[03:31] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: still there?
[03:31] <durt> ok nathanel
[03:32] <marcin_ant> xTina, I can but my customers dont
[03:33] <xTina> marcin_ant: but is it really a good idea if your customers can manipulate files that belong to root if they can't be bothered to learn how to remove files through the terminal?
[03:33] <user_> sorry about that
[03:33] <unk0wn2u> alt f2 gnome-sudo gnome-terminal
[03:33] <marcin_ant> xTina, I don't agree
[03:33] <unk0wn2u> alt f2 gnome-sudo gnome-terminal
[03:33] <xTina> marcin_ant: In OS X, the feature you want is present. And the world would be a lot better if it weren't there.
[03:33] <durt> my problem is that when i try to print a .ps file theres about an extra inch margin at the top, but evince and ggv dont show it. i everything set to "letter." Any ideas?
[03:34] <marcin_ant> xTina, for example they can manage packages with synaptic - as super users
[03:34] <marcin_ant> xTina, and they don't need to use terminal to do this
[03:34] <RiNiN> http://pastebin.com/366765
[03:34] <marcin_ant> xTina, why should they to remove some file owned by someone else - if they know password?
[03:34] <Denjira> hey I ordered Ubuntu discs a few weeks ago, will they still be sent?
[03:34] <RiNiN> could use some help
[03:34] <DewDude> question: if i'm not using kdm, can i deactivate it from services?
[03:35] <xTina> marcin_ant: I meant more in terms of destroying their system.
[03:35] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: i know you dont, i was just remarking that nautilus is bad about changing user permissions when started as root
[03:35] <unk0wn2u> marcin_ant, using terminal is usually alot faster when you know what your doing
[03:35] <Denjira> hey I ordered Ubuntu discs a few weeks ago, will they still be sent?
[03:35] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: i recommend using the terminal to rid yourself of unwanted files (make sure they're not important)
[03:35] <xTina> anyway, I'm off to bed
[03:36] <DewDude> yeah, dude...learn the terminal
[03:36] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, do I really need to tell this again? personally I'm terminal, emacs, ion3 user
[03:36] <pr0tocol> well, atleast I got SOME X
[03:36] <unk0wn2u> emacs thats funny
[03:36] <DewDude> once i learned console stuff...linux started making more sense
[03:36] <pr0tocol> It's sad that I have to use Knoppix lmao
[03:36] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, I don't need to learn this - in fact I use this ugly thing called nautilus only if I need to learn some newbies how to use gnome
[03:37] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: there is no way to use nautilus to rid your self of root owned files
[03:37] <Snoblower> er...
[03:37] <tga> three cheers for ion3
[03:37] <cusco> hi
[03:38] <cusco> for almost every media I play on mplayer
[03:38] <cusco> it says:
[03:38] <cusco> alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.009 msecs. resetting stream
[03:38] <cusco> alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.009 msecs. resetting stream
[03:38] <john_> hello.  Is anyone running RAID1 under ubuntu?
[03:38] <apokryphos> cusco: please don't paste in here.
[03:38] <cusco> and keeps repiting this line over and over again
[03:38] <cusco> apokryphos: sory
[03:38] <tga> cusco, try mplayer -ao oss
[03:38] <cusco> and each line is a hip on the sound
[03:38] <Denjira> hey I ordered Ubuntu discs a few weeks ago, will they still be sent?
[03:39] <Snoblower> ok, i downloaded the live CD, burned it to a disk and restarted my comp, now what do i do? :(
[03:39] <tga> cusco, or mplayer -ao esd
[03:39] <test34> if I install debian's firefox 1.5 beta1 package with dpkg, will it uninstall firefox1.06 or just leave it there ?
[03:39] <cusco> tga: works perfec with oss
[03:39] <tga> cusco, here you have it then
[03:39] <cusco> esd too
[03:39] <john_> denjira: yeah.  took about 8 weeks to arrive in australia.
[03:39] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, are you insane?
[03:39] <tga> cusco, put it in ~/.mplayer/config
[03:39] <cusco> ok
[03:39] <Snoblower> unk0wn2u, yes
[03:39] <apokryphos> test34: probably overwrite, but you generally shouldn't install debian packages
[03:39] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, and it really sucks
[03:39] <Denjira> Shipit says they aren't shipping for now
[03:40] <nathanel> durt: did you try the cups interface on localhost:631 already?
[03:40] <apokryphos> test34: no real point especially since there's a ready-made Firefox beta from their site.
[03:40] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, it has to boot from the cd ie setup your bios
[03:40] <Snoblower> how do i do that?
[03:40] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, how the hell should i know ?
[03:40] <Snoblower> ...
[03:40] <test34> apokryphos, the firefox from mozilla will not overwrite ?
[03:40] <Snoblower> does anybody know what i'm doing?
[03:41] <Clujo> when computer is booting, press f1 to  change boot options like booting from cd
[03:41] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, hit del or f1 or whatever when your computer boots and go to advanced features
[03:41] <cusco> tga: I have seen the ~/.mplayer/config before with more options.. should I add those? I just don't remember where
[03:41] <apokryphos> test34: well, it doesn't install anything does it? Runs straight from the directory IIRC
[03:41] <cusco> I know it was ubuntu related
[03:41] <dbl> hello gud day
[03:41] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: what sucks is that nautilus cant behave when given root powers
[03:41] <Snoblower> unk0wn2u, then what do i do?
[03:42] <test34> apokryphos, ok I didnt know it didnt install it
[03:42] <john_> no idea what you're doing snowman
[03:42] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, change first boot drive to cdrom
[03:42] <dbl> someone here know how to share my printer into a other pc ?
[03:42] <tga> cusco, only add the options you need to use every time, like vo=oss
[03:42] <apokryphos> test34: it's noticeably faster, but looks exactly the same.
[03:42] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, heh... there is already bug in bugzilla related with this problem
[03:42] <tga> cusco, or you can sudo edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[03:42] <apokryphos> test34: still not good enough for me to use it as default though ;-)
[03:42] <john_> now, back to me...   Does anyone run a RAID array?
[03:42] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, #65058 - 4 years old
[03:43] <unk0wn2u> dbl /etc/cups/cups.conf would be a good start
[03:43] <test34> test34, yeah I tried it on windows
[03:43] <apokryphos> test34: talking to yourself? ;-)
[03:43] <samir> hi all i am new to linux and i choosed ubuntu as a distribution but i dont know what to specify an internet mirror for the packages.. is it a debian mirror??
[03:43] <dbl> unkown2u how to use that command ?
[03:43] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: you do it too
[03:44] <test34> apokryphos, oops;)
[03:44] <john_> :-).  Nah not windows
[03:44] <johndarkhorse> samir: using debian mirrors can break your ubuntu
[03:44] <johndarkhorse> !tell samir about sources
[03:45] <nathanel> dbl: that's not a command, that's the configuration file for the printing system
[03:45] <Prodegy> Hello
[03:45] -depende:#ubuntu- to goin is #debianeros ;)
[03:45] <samir> what can i use as internet mirrors????
[03:45] <dbl> ok
[03:45] <dbl> let me see here
[03:45] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: never!
[03:45] <john_> samir: just use the ones provieded in synaptic.
[03:46] <samir> ok thanks
[03:46] <Snoblower> ARG!
[03:46] <dbl> u i use that to one computer to access here ?
[03:46] <Snoblower> F1 and Del didn't work...
[03:46] <dbl> i use that in one computer to access at my server ?
[03:46] <QMario> !Linksys
[03:46] <ubotu> QMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:46] <ubuntu_novice2> hello
[03:46] <QMario> !Router
[03:46] <ubotu> well, router is a device used to connect multiple copmputers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[03:46] <QMario> !VoIP
[03:47] <ubotu> QMario: No idea
[03:47] <ubuntu_novice2> what does SMB means?
[03:47] <QMario> !Modem
[03:47] <ubotu> QMario: Are you smoking crack?
[03:47] <anthony> hello
[03:47] <john_> samir: synaptic defaults to just the install cd.  wander around the preferences and you can turn on other repositores.  Universe has all the unofficial stuff
[03:47] <dbl>  /etc/cups/cups.conf would be a good start i ant find that here
[03:47] <QMario> Has anyone gotten a Linksys Wireless-G router to work? :-/
[03:47] <Prodegy> Yes
[03:47] <nathanel> dbl: you already have a server you want to connect to? or do you want to shre the printer attached to this computer?
[03:47] <QMario> Hello anthony and Seveas!!! :)
[03:47] <Prodegy> QMario: I am on that right now
[03:47] <john_> SMB = windows networking
[03:48] <Snoblower> is anybody willing to explain how to get this thing working in extreme detail?
[03:48] <QMario> How did you get it to work Prodegy?
[03:48] <dbl> i wang to share it, so that i can access here in server
[03:48] <anthony> Can any one tell me if this is JAVA in ubunta 5.o4?, please
[03:48] <dbl> nathanel i want to share it, so that i can access here in server
[03:49] <john_> anthony: I'd be extremely surprised if java didn't work.
[03:49] <nathanel> dbl: and the other computer is running linux too or windows?
[03:49] <dbl> linux
[03:49] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, holly crap it's so depressing - there is no support for sudo operations in nautlius although this feature was requested 4y ago and... there is still no support for search in yelp (I was trying to find how to use ssh in nautilus - using help subsystem) it really sucks..
[03:49] <dbl> all computer here is linux
[03:49] <anthony> ththanks john
[03:49] <ubuntu_novice2> nathanel: I got power interruption
[03:49] <dbl> i have 12 pc and it OS is linux
[03:49] <Snoblower> i'm very dumb, who will help me?
[03:50] <Kira> !pppoe
[03:50] <ubotu> Kira: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:50] <Prodegy> Snoblower: Dont ask who will help just ask your question.
[03:50] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: ok, you have synaptic running?
[03:50] <DewDude> oops
[03:50] <Kira> !PPPoE
[03:50] <ubotu> Kira: I give up, what is it?
[03:50] <Kira> !DSL
[03:50] <ubotu> methinks dsl is available in Ubuntu, often all that is needed to set it up is to run pppoeconf from a root terminal
[03:50] <ubuntu_novice2> not yet
[03:50] <DewDude> my ubuntu crashed my windows
[03:50] <ubuntu_novice2> i just click the update
[03:50] <Snoblower> ok, well i downloaded the live CD, burned it, and now i'm trying to figure out how i get it to run..
[03:51] <Snoblower> i restarted and pushed F1 and del, neither worked
[03:51] <john_> anthony: I haven't got it up myself (yet), but its just linux, and I know sun support java on linux
[03:51] <Prodegy> Use F2
[03:51] <nathanel> dbl: you need to edit that file as root and allow network access from the hosts in your network.
[03:51] <john_> So has anyone played with RAID on ubuntu?
[03:51] <Kira> The only thing that's stopping me from throwing Windoze out the window and installing Ubuntu on my laptop is the problem with PPPoE over wlan.
[03:51] <ubuntu_novice2> nathanel: but when I click the install it says... E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:52] <samir> thank you for your help it works
[03:52] <dbl> then could u tell me pls the idea on  how to edit it in root, what should i do to edit in root
[03:52] <anthony> cool thanks
[03:52] <john_> another happy customer
[03:52] <ubuntu_novice2> where can I run it manually?
[03:53] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: open a terminal then enter: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:53] <solee> anyone know how there is no dotty screen at the startup of X in Ubuntu?
[03:54] <dbl> nathanel can u give m an access to private you ?
[03:54] <getVOIPfromME> solee: yeah - its not using X
[03:54] <Quinthius> solee: you mean before it starts to load the window manager/desktop?
[03:54] <unk0wn2u> solee, yeah i noticed that too
[03:54] <Quinthius> getVOIPfromME: yes it is...
[03:54] <getVOIPfromME> solee: Its using Xorg
[03:55] <getVOIPfromME> solee: With Breezy, or Hoary?
[03:55] <solee> getVOIPfromME: ok.. I'll change my question; how do you do it in Xorg?
[03:55] <solee> it's Hoary
[03:55] <Quinthius> the server (or xinit or whatever) can take args to specify the root bg color instead of that ugly mesh crap
[03:55] <ubuntu_novice2> is the terminal like the command promptin Windows?
[03:55] <john_> Be really nice if someone here had set up RAID on ubuntu?  anyone ?
[03:55] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: somewhat, yes. but the commands are different :)
[03:55] <solee> Quinthius: yes, before loading them..
[03:55] <snowwoolf> I have
[03:56] <dbl> nathanel how to edit as a root pls
[03:56] <Prodegy> DBL
[03:56] <john_> snowwoolf has?
[03:56] <nathanel> dbl: ok, open a terminal windo
[03:56] <Prodegy> Go to your Log-In screen Setup
[03:56] <Quinthius> solee: are you asking so you can make startx do the same?
[03:56] <MrMaDSeN> damn.. xmms is missing the bookmark feature
[03:56] <dbl> k
[03:56] <ubuntu_novice2> yah... i noticed that
[03:56] <solee> Quinthius: oh...! I see..
[03:56] <snowwoolf> I have one computer in use running a RAID-1 on Ubuntu 5.0
[03:56] <Prodegy> Nathanel you do know that he doesnt have to edit in Terminal correct?
[03:56] <ubuntu_novice2> I really thank god for creating people like you
[03:57] <solee> Quinthius: no, i'm using an another linux distribution. and i would like to use it in that distro..
[03:57] <ubuntu_novice2> I reallY HATE bill gates
[03:57] <john_> excellent!  does it appear to the OS as a single drive, or two (which you then apply software to)?
[03:57] <dbl> nathanel its ok now i have open already
[03:57] <Quinthius> solee: ahhh, well i'm not sure how gdm loads it... but i'm sure it's in some config somewhere, wherever the core X server or xinit is initialized
[03:57] <apokryphos> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Bill_gates
[03:57] <snowwoolf> one drive.  if you are seeing more than one drive, are you running a hardware or software RAID?
[03:57] <MrMaDSeN> ubuntu_novice2: could say the same about crimsun .... helped me with some sound stuff....... and I am SOOOO happy now :))
[03:57] <kasper> can anyone tell me how to increase the audio buffer size
[03:58] <solee> Quinthius: aha. thank you very much. i'll try to find how to set the bgcolor instead of the scary dots!! :)
[03:58] <john_> hard to say.  I've got the VIA southbridge which has raid in the bios
[03:58] <ubuntu_novice2> Nathanel : You'regreat
[03:58] <dbl> nathanel what is the next should i do ?
[03:58] <Quinthius> solee: it wont be in a "config" file most likely... probably within one of the init scripts itself... whatever gdm invokes when it starts up X
[03:58] <ubuntu_novice2> Nathanel: You're great
[03:59] <nathanel> dbl: the format of this file is documented on http://localhost:631/sam.html
[03:59] <kasper> when I play mp3's it keeps skipping
[03:59] <john_> I fooled around with it one day and got it to appear as one disk, and though fantistic, went and bought another disk...  Now I can't get it to do it again
[03:59] <solee> Quinthius: alright...
[03:59] <dbl> i type that here in terminal ?
[03:59] <dbl> nathanel i type that here in terminal ?
[03:59] <kasper> can someone please help me
[04:00] <durt> nathanel: its a network printer (samba) and it prints most things right, except for these postscripts
[04:00] <snowwoolf> john_, a lot of motherboard RAIDs aren't hardware RAIDs.  They use their own proprietary format.  The BIOS in the computer uses the CPU to do RAID, and when Windows loads, it loads a driver than continues the illusion
[04:00] <fossa> hi
[04:00] <beti1> anyone from the philippines
[04:00] <beti3_> hello cute
[04:01] <cute> is any here from the mountain province
[04:01] <fossa> can someone help me set up internet on my new laptop?
[04:01] <beti3_> yeah im from d phil
[04:01] <win> hi! beti3
[04:01] <ubuntu_novice2> betil: Imfrom phil
[04:01] <ubuntu_novice2> baguio city
[04:01] <beti3_> hi win
[04:01] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: thx. so look if you have samba installed.
[04:01] <john_> snow: roger that.  as far as I can make out it is the psuedo (cheaparse) raid version, but that's fine, if it can create the illusion I'm happy to be deceived.
[04:01] <durt> there sure are a lot of philipinos here
[04:02] <beti3_> fksdaj;fjsda
[04:02] <Quinthius> solee: think i found it
[04:02] <kasper> hey anyone know how to get xmms to stop skipping while playing songs, especially when opening applications????????
[04:02] <nathanel> dbl: no. run sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:02] <john_> you running a proper hardware raid? or a pseudo raid?
[04:02] <beti3_> filipinos are genius u know
[04:02] <beti3_> u know pacquiao
[04:02] <snowwoolf> john_, there's some information about it in the Ubuntu support forum.  You can probably set up an Ubuntu software RAID on the same drives without a problem, but to not take any chances, make sure you have all of your data backed up.  And if nothing else is on the computer, I suggest you turn off the motherboards RAID.  The software driver in Ubuntu is probably faster anyway.
[04:02] <solee> Quinthius: ...!!
[04:02] <Quinthius> solee: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, scroll down to "Definition of the standard X server"...
[04:02] <dbl> nathanel ok
[04:02] <cute> filipinos are piraters
[04:02] <nathanel> dbl: and open http://localhost:631/sam.html in your web browser
[04:02] <ubuntu_novice2> cute: not really
[04:02] <jsubl2> kasper, if you look at the  preference for xmms you can increase the buffer size i think
[04:03] <solee> Quinthius: I'm there..!
[04:03] <ubuntu_novice2> cute: maybe were just trying to be practical
[04:03] <getVOIPfromME> kasper: have you tried another audio app? If so, does it do the same thing?
[04:03] <Leshrac> this may sound stupid but, how do I get the apt-get online function working?
[04:03] <john_> snow: thanks dude, its a fresh install so no probs there.  Are you running the software raid, or you got hardware to behave?
[04:03] <Quinthius> solee: i guess that's where you would change it on another distro
[04:03] <cute> kabayan
[04:03] <beti1> hi ubuntu_novice2
[04:03] <dbl> nathanel it shown here in terminal   bash: run: command not found
[04:04] <snowwoolf> john_, a RAID is  RAID whether it is done in hardware or software, it just gets messy, and tends to hurt in performance and reliability when you have one pretending to be the other, like all low cost Adaptec RAID controller, and perhaps the type in your motherboard chipset
[04:04] <beti3_> lets go back to ubuntu
[04:04] <ubuntu_novice2> hi betil
[04:04] <ubuntu_novice2> betil: asl
[04:04] <solee> Quinthius: aha.. so i have to give some argument to the 'command' right?
[04:04] <beti5> please explaine ubunto
[04:04] <Leshrac> I think the question I want to know, is how do I ass repositories to apt-get?
[04:04] <Quinthius> solee: yeah... i assume so anyway
[04:04] <Leshrac> *-add, sorry
[04:04] <win> still virgin
[04:04] <beti1> 30 m baguio city. u?
[04:04] <solee> Quinthius: alright.. thank you a lot for the help :)
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> 30 m baguio city also
[04:05] <nathanel> dbl: so what did you enter exactly?
[04:05] <shamus> I'm getting this error when trying to run a program, error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, i tried install libstdc++6 but it's newest version. what do i need?
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> where in baguio?
[04:05] <Quinthius> solee: where to find options for the X server, i dunno... prolly in "man X" somewhere
[04:05] <solee> ok :)
[04:05] <john_> snow: ok... have you used mdadm, or dmraid, or any experience with these?
[04:05] <beti1> harrison
[04:05] <cute> ayan mo ubunto_novice