[17:19] <Gika> usr13: http://pastebin.ca/1691269
[17:19] <moldy> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f307a3d6b
[17:20] <parapanghelescu> scunizi / IdleOne / ActionParsnip > thanks; Hi again Parsnip > upgrading directly from synaptic is OK ? any troublem I can expect ???
[17:20] <scunizi> parapanghelescu: always plan for the worst and expect the best
[17:20] <lianimator> Is there a UML editor which automatically inherits operators from the parent class?
[17:20] <IdleOne> parapanghelescu: use the upgrade manager
[17:20] <parapanghelescu> scunizi :))
[17:21] <IdleOne> err update manager*
[17:21] <hey_joe> i will remove apache2 with update-rc.d, then readd defaults and see if it starts again
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> moldy: i'd reinstall ldm, then remove it and its deps, then remove the ppa
[17:21]  * hey_joe but for the record this sucks
[17:21] <usr13> sudo Gika: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[17:21] <usr13> Gika: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> moldy: try: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
 yeahh!  already im installing KDE desktop, thxk!
[17:21] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: welcome
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> moldy: also run: sudo apt-get install deborphan; sudo apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`
[17:22] <parapanghelescu> scunizi / idleone - any opinion about the time ? I'm on a lan connection internet speed for package download ....up to 10MBps ....
 what do you think about KDE?
[17:22] <IdleOne> parapanghelescu: 1-1.5 hours
[17:22] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: I don't use it
[17:22] <Gika> usr13: http://pastebin.ca/1691273
[17:22] <IdleOne> Manuelgop: I prefer gnome
[17:23] <scunizi> parapanghelescu: a while
 jeje! yeah! mee too, but i want meat KDE jeje xD
[17:23] <moldy> ActionParsnip: apt-get --purge autoremove and apt-get install deborphan; sudo apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`
[17:23] <moldy> ActionParsnip: [...] those seem to have no effect
[17:23] <parapanghelescu> idleone > I was thinking the same ...wish me luck and see ya' in a couple of hours / scunizi ;)
[17:23] <IdleOne> parapanghelescu: later :)
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> moldy: looks like you'll need to readd the repo
[17:24] <usr13> Gika: Hummm... that is interesting: 222G - 205G  =  17G
[17:24] <arrogance4000> Hello?
[17:25] <usr13> Gika: Must have lots of bad sectors.
[17:25] <Gika> usr13: yeah, but it says there's only 5G left
[17:25] <IdleOne> !hi | arrogance4000
[17:25] <Gika> how do i fix that? fsck?
[17:25] <usr13> Gika: unmount and run fsck
[17:25] <moldy> ActionParsnip: i think i can fix this, but i have another question: how do i tell apt to use the ppa for certain packages only?
[17:25] <usr13> Gika: I suppose
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> 5% of ext2/3/4 gets 'reserved' also -
[17:25] <usr13> You can also get hdsentinel and see what that says.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> that 5% is tuneable with the tune2fs command Gika  (if thats what the space you are missing)
[17:26] <Gika> usr13: but every 30 reboots (i think) it runs fsck automatically and it never found problems
[17:26] <usr13> Gika: sudo ./hdsentinel
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> moldy: not sure there fella
[17:26] <Gika> trying hdsentinel now
[17:26] <arrogance4000> I have a question, I just recently bought a new computer, not a namebrand computer I built it myself. I downloaded ubuntu on my laptop and burnt it to a CD and put it in my computer. However It doesn't seem to be booting from the CD.. Any thoughts?
[17:26] <moldy> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you
[17:26] <usr13> Gika: May be that the MBR has errors.
[17:26] <Jesper84> arrogance4000: Have you checked your boot settings in the bios?
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  how did you burn it to the cd? the bios is set to boot from the cd?
[17:27] <IdleOne> arrogance4000: change bios to boot from CD first
[17:27] <arrogance4000> I have, it comes up with "Reboot and Select proper Boot Device"
[17:27] <Gika> usr13: hdsentinel is not in the repos, i have to download it somewhere else i guess?
[17:27] <om26er_> !games
[17:27] <arrogance4000> I have my CD rom as the FIRST thing to be checked
[17:27] <usr13> Gika:   fidsk /dev/sda
[17:27] <usr13> Gika:  sudo fidsk /dev/sda
[17:27] <Jesper84> arrogance4000: and as Dr_Willis points out, you should burn the img file to the cd, and not begin unpacking it...
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  how did you burn it to the cd?
[17:27] <IdleOne> !iso
[17:28] <IdleOne> wrong one
[17:28] <usr13> Gika: Run from live CD  fdisk /dev/sda
[17:28] <IdleOne> !burn | arrogance4000
[17:28] <arrogance4000> I downloaded the ISO and used MagicISO to burn it.
[17:28] <parapanghelescu> quit
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> arrogance4000: did you md5 test the iso?
[17:28] <usr13> Gika: http://www.hdsentinel.com/hdslin.php
[17:28] <MmikeDOMA> How does one restores the 'ubuntu-9.04' boot/login splash screen? is that possible?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  You can use unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive (thats will install faster then a cd) also i perfer the infrarecorder tool to burn iso files.
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  test the cd on a differnet pc - see if it boots there.
[17:29] <arrogance4000> I will look up Unetbootin, I'll be back to you in a bit.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  check the cd also. be sure its not got one big iso file on it :)
[17:30] <Gika> usr13: this is hdsentinel's report http://pastebin.ca/1691288
[17:31] <arrogance4000> I'll be back in a bit, I'm going to try boot the CD off of this laptop and see if it works... Can't believe I never thought of that.. haha
[17:31] <usr13> MmikeDOMA: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30341.html
[17:31] <usr13> Gika: Looking
[17:33] <MmikeDOMA> usr13, thnx
[17:33] <usr13> Gika: The drive looks to be in good condition, but the MBR may have some sort of errors.
[17:33] <guitar-maniac> i get an error Cannot get colume.fstype.alternative when i try to plug my ipod in
[17:33] <Gika> usr13: so how do i have fix that?
[17:34] <Gika> might it be related to the fact that i updated from ext3 to ext4 and from grub to grub2 some weeks ago?
[17:34] <usr13> Gika: and I think the live cd of gparted has a utility to repair MBR but not sure...
[17:34] <JoeBlacken> Hi, I'm trying to find a laptop that is 100% compatible with Ubuntu (i.e. hardware drivers including microphone and camera) and available in stores not online, any suggestion?
[17:35] <shadowwulf> what is the command to install ubuntu in a tarminal
[17:35] <usr13> Gika: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[17:35] <mikey> joe, why not run a live version of ubu 9.10 in store and check if all is well?
[17:35] <gidna> HI
[17:36] <Soap> Ok, grown sick of my Asus P5K motherboard and my constant problems with the jmicron PATA chip.  Also tired of my Corsair memory which wants 2.1 volts instead of 1.8 and tosses errors when you look at it wrong.  Tired of RMAing the memory and am going to just write it off.
[17:36] <noisecontrol> hello :)
[17:36] <noisecontrol> I now have 9.10 on 3pcs
[17:36] <Soap> Anyone running a PATA drive on a Gigabyte P45 chipset motherboard?
[17:36] <mka> hi everyone
[17:36] <Gika> usr13: ok i'm trying that but are you sure there's a "fix mbr" option? because i have gparted installed from the repos and i can't see anything like that
[17:36] <om26er_> !anyone | Soap
[17:37] <usr13> Gika: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[17:37] <Nixot> Hello everybody
[17:37] <Burzmali> Is there anyway to enter graphical safe mode with Karmic?
[17:37] <JoeBlacken> mikey, well, I don't think they will allow me to do so, and it takes a very long time.
[17:37] <rain> hy
[17:37] <Nixot> I'm using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04
[17:38] <IdleOne> JoeBlacken: if they wont let you test the machine then you don't want to buy from them
[17:38] <mikey> allow?  Just go browse around and pop in a live cd.  I've done it
[17:38] <mka> Burzmali: sudo init 1
[17:38] <Nixot> and I'm having poblems with Compiz, you see, when I open a 3D game in fullscreen it automatically switches to windowed mode, the mouse stops working until I quit and the display flashes
[17:38] <shadowwulf> what is the command i type in terminal to install ubuntu 9.10
[17:38] <Soap> why sick the bot on me, om26er_?  I don't see where I missteped.
[17:38] <IdleOne> !install | shadowwulf
[17:38] <Burzmali> mka: from login okay?
[17:39] <Nixot> it's really annoying because I don't want to remove compiz because it's so cool :(
[17:39] <Gika> shadowwulf: you mean to upgrade it from a previous version?
[17:39] <usr13> Gika: http://fehu.org/~feyrer/g4u/g4u-2.4.iso
[17:39] <mka> shadowwulf: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:39] <JuJuBee> Something is up with my audio... using Pulse Audio for multimedia settings and now all I get is static from speakers.
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> Nixot:  just disable it befor you play games
[17:39] <Nixot> Err...
[17:39] <mka> Burzmali: no, after you logged in already
[17:39] <om26er_> Soap: it meant ask the real question plz.
[17:39] <shadowwulf> no, i mean a fresh install from a blank hard drive
[17:39] <Nixot> is there a way to do that automatically?
[17:39] <mikey> what is the dif between autoremove and autoclean?
[17:40] <cwill747> So I'm trying to start ubuntu after upgrading to karmic, and It can't find one of my network drives listed in my fdisk. I know it's not there, my computer IP changed that it's trying to get to. But I can't change it. I didn't set a root password, so I can't get in the recover console. What should I do?
[17:40] <JoeBlacken> mikey, there must be someone here with ubuntu on a laptop that Ubuntu run on smoothly and the drivers are available
[17:40] <Nixot> or can I have buttons on my panel to disable and enable compiz?
[17:40] <Burzmali> mka: I know, I mean that I am dropping to a term from the login screen
[17:40] <mka> shadowwulf: get an ISO and burn it on a CD
[17:40] <ZykoticK9> Nixot, Fusionicon
[17:40] <Gika> shadowwulf: you have to download the ISO file, burn a cd/use a usb key and boot from it; check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[17:40] <Nixot> zykoticK9: What is fusionicon?
[17:41] <shadowwulf> i have the CD ... i just dont see a install icon ....
[17:41] <om26er_> Nixot: install it
[17:41] <mikey> I have a dell D520 and it runs well.  My lappy does not havea  camera tho
[17:41] <Gika> thanks usr13 i'm trying that now
[17:41] <om26er_> Nixot: and you can add an applet to the panel
[17:41] <ZykoticK9> Nixot, specifically it's called fusion-icon -- it give a systemtray icon to turn compiz on or off (among other things)
[17:41] <mka> Burzmali: do you want to drop to a term or you are dropping to a terminal?
[17:41] <Nixot> err
[17:41] <Nixot> ohh
[17:41] <soap> om26er_: I do believe I asked the "real" question.
[17:41] <Nixot> good... i tried to install fusionicon and it failed, but fusion-icon is going along fine :D
[17:42] <Nixot> I installed it... now what?
[17:42] <ekkehart> Is there a way to keep processes from entering "disk sleep" mode? Kubuntu Karmic
[17:42] <Nixot> aha!
[17:42] <om26er_> soap: ok sorry if that offended you.
[17:42] <Burzmali> mka: I am dropping via ctl + alt + f1
[17:42] <mka> shadowwulf: Restart your PC while the CD is inserted your PC should pick it up, do not choose to load the live cd, rather choose to Install right away
[17:42] <Nixot> zykoticK9: OK,the icon's there, what do I do with it?
[17:42] <mka> Burzmali: so what is your question?
[17:43] <mka> Burzmali: Isnt that what you wanted?
[17:43] <Nixot> aha!
[17:43] <Nixot> Is metacity the ordinary window manager?
[17:43] <JoeBlacken> mikey, yeah, I can buy directly from dell a ubuntu powered laptop, though it is not 9.10 but it is good, the thing is I want to get it fast, and that one will take around 8 days to ship and probably few more to get here.
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Nixot:  yes
[17:43] <Nixot> Ahh!
[17:43] <Nixot> I think so!
[17:43] <Nixot> Thanks :D
[17:43] <Nixot> That's all,...  bye!
[17:43] <FloodBot4> Nixot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <cwill747> JoeBlacken: have you checked out System76?
[17:43] <JuJuBee> Can someone assist with audio problem?  only get static out of speakers all of a sudden
[17:43] <Burzmali> mka: That command sudo init 1 just got me a static splash screen
[17:43] <shadowwulf> thanks\
[17:43] <stephan> how can i tell the boinc-manager which browser to use?
[17:44] <usr13> Burzmali: What are you wanting to acomplish?
[17:44] <IdleOne> stephan: #boinc
[17:44] <Klausi> (join
[17:44] <mka> Burzmali: first what do you really want to do?
[17:44] <arrogance4000> And I'm back :)
[17:44] <stephan> IdleOne: thx
[17:45] <stephan> #boinc
[17:45] <Burzmali> usr13: I need to enable restricted graphics drivers to get karmic too work.  Ubuntu has always hated my graphics card.
[17:45] <mka> Burzmali: sudo init 1 will try to get you to single user mode (which is called recovery mode sometimes)
[17:45] <om26er_> Burzmali: nvidia?
[17:45] <JoeBlacken> cwill747, yes, but I forgot to check the shipping option, I will check it now
[17:45] <om26er_> Burzmali: ignore me
[17:45] <Burzmali> om26e_: yeah, 7800 gt
[17:45] <cwill747> JoeBlacken: yeah, i don't know anything about it. I was just throwing it out there
[17:45] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop   #is probably what you need
[17:45] <too5hort> Hi, ubuntu remix 4 is the same as ubuntu but with more pre installet programs and apps ?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: nvidia loves linux, dude
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> Burzmali:  you may want to try 'sudo service kdm stop'
[17:46] <usr13> Burzmali: Using KDE?
[17:46] <cwill747> too5hort: Not really. The remix is for netbooks, and is a lighter version of ubuntu
[17:46] <Burzmali> usr13: no
[17:46] <arrogance4000> Okay, So I tried to see if it would boot on this laptop, and it was a no-go... So I downloaded and installed unetbootin and put it on my USB key. My computer is not sitting at "Checking NVRAM.." and has been for about 2-3 mins now.
[17:46] <usr13> bradpitt: Gnome?
[17:46] <usr13> Burzmali: Gnome?
[17:46] <arrogance4000> Now^
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> arrogance4000:  sounds like your pc has issues..
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: does: gksudo jockey-gtk   not offer you a driver?
[17:46] <Burzmali> usr13: yes
[17:46] <too5hort> but the installation file is nearly 1gig ?
[17:46] <cwill747> too5hort: If i recall, it actually doesn't have all the applications as the normal version. It's meant to run on a system that has very little memory or a ligher load
[17:47] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo service kdm stop
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: could use this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[17:47] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:47] <cwill747> too5hort: You are talking about the netbook remix right?
[17:47] <om26er_> my guess is nvidia-glx-173 would be recommended for Burzmali
[17:47] <usr13> Burzmali: Or something like that..
[17:47] <Egbert9000> sometimes clicking on things doesn't work
[17:48]  * Dr_Willis tries to teach people to start using 'sudo service' :) the use of init.d  scripts are slowly getting phased out
[17:48] <matswapati> i just installed karmic and i get 'bus error' when trying to launch programs that were not included by default, like skype and anki
[17:48] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Ok, thanks infol
[17:48] <Egbert9000> i have to press right mouse button
[17:48] <Egbert9000> then a menu comes out not in the context of where i'm pressing
[17:48] <too5hort> cwill474: hm as i live in sweden, i got to ubuntu.se and there i read about the new ubuntu remix 4.0 and they say that it comes preinstalled with many hande programs so you can play mp3 etc from the beginning, kind of for more new to linux users, but when i youtubed it, i just got to se the stuff for netbooks
[17:48] <Egbert9000> only where i've previously pressed
[17:48] <Burzmali> usr13: kdm: unrecognized service
[17:49] <usr13> Burzmali: That might be because you are running gnome instead of kde  (gdm is gnome, kdm is kde)
[17:49] <usr13> Burzmali: sudo service gdm stop
[17:50] <Egbert9000> it seems similar to this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2008-March/030675.html
[17:50] <ranjan> hello ever y body i am having an very strange problem i am trying to delete an folder from an ntfs partition of my hard disk i am not able to do so where as when i tried to delete other folder it is possible to do so i am having all the require plug-in installed on my system an i am geat-ing an error msg as "Error removing file: No such file or directory" so can any body on this network can help me to fix out  the problem
[17:50] <LjL> too5hort, an "ubuntu remix" is a term for any distribution that's ubuntu with modified default packages. it doesn't tells us *which* remix you're using. also, such versions are not really official or supported
[17:50] <ardchoille> I'm using WindowMaker as my window manager and would like to be able to access the apps menu from an icon or button - my desktop is usually filled. Any way to do that?
[17:51] <usr13> ranjan: See how you have the partition mounted # cat /etc/fstab
[17:51] <Burzmali> usr13: I'm pulling down the driver now
[17:51] <agent42> too5hort: i think it is a Swedish remix: "Ubuntu.se Remix 4.0"
[17:51] <usr13> ranjan: pastebin /etc/fstab   #if you want us to see
[17:51] <om26er_> !test
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:   there may be some 'xdg' tools to generate a windowmaker compatiable menu config, or you could run the gnome-panel  and have full access to the panel/gnome menus and stuff
[17:51] <usr13> Burzmali: What are you installing?
[17:51] <too5hort> LjL: Ah thanks for the update, but if i install it, i can still update it to a new ubuntu version, if its released, it just comes with more pre-installed packages?
[17:52] <LjL> too5hort: if it *only* comes with packages from the official Ubuntu repositories, i guess you can.
[17:52] <Burzmali> nvidia_glx_173
[17:52] <usr13> !nvidia | Burzmali
[17:52] <Guest95092> when i tried to add medibuntu repository its saying "public key is not available"
[17:52] <LjL> too5hort: but i'd recommend using the official version of Ubuntu, really.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: does it show in terminal?
[17:52] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Hmm.. running the gnome panel would cover my iconbar I think
[17:52] <wbc> Is it okay to ask for something that is linux related but that not goes under ubuntu OS
[17:52] <ardchoille> I'll have a look at the xdg stuff
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  you could make it auto hide.
[17:52] <LjL> wbc: not quite... try ##linux
[17:52] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Oh, that's a nice idea :)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173     then reboot
[17:52] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: ya
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: what if you delete it there?
[17:53] <too5hort> LjL: Ah okey well thanks for the answers man ;)
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  ive not used windowmaker in ages. :)
[17:53] <Burzmali> usr13 Actionparship: no luck, graphics still corrupt at login.
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: do you use a crt monitor?
[17:53] <usr13> Burzmali: What does it look like?
[17:53] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: i have not tried it  via comand
[17:54] <ranjan> i am not awear of that command
[17:54] <Burzmali> ActionParship: No lcd
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: you'll get better outputs
[17:54] <usr13> Burzmali: What monitor?
[17:54] <om26er_> Burzmali: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx-* && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Burzmali: i can give you my xorg.conf which may help
[17:54] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: which command should i use
[17:54]  * om26er_ says that sometimes older drivers work better
[17:54] <Burzmali> usr13: Click on username, get colorful lines below.  Always fixed before by installing restricted
[17:54] <ranjan> rm
[17:55] <usr13> Burzmali: Try what om26er_ says...
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: you need to use 'cd' to change directory to the place where thefile resides
[17:55] <ranjan> ok
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: then use: rm -rf folder_name
[17:55] <Guest95092> how to add medibuntu repository?
[17:55] <cj> hey all
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | Guest95092
[17:56] <cj> I'm looking to get a new laptop.  how well is the new lenovo hardware supported?
[17:56] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's in the mounted reive partision
[17:56] <ardchoille> !hcl | cj
[17:56] <Burzmali> usr13: Will do, who's bright idea was it to get rid of safe mode?
[17:56] <usr13>  !repositories | Guest95092
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> cj:  thers a few forum threads that focus on that brand i recall
[17:56] <usr13> Burzmali: I dono, wasn't mine.... :_)
 then how to add if i want to add them?
[17:57] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's in the mounted partision so should i go with sudo
[17:57] <usr13> Burzmali: You can always boot to linux single
[17:57] <cj> Dr_Willis: which brand?
[17:58] <Burzmali> usr13: how?
[17:58] <italo> ciao a tutti,
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> cj:  levno
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: sure, just access wherever it is
[17:59] <cj> Dr_Willis: ah, thanks
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> cj:  im to poor to afford one. :)
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest95092: the page tells you how in the repo guide
[17:59] <Burzmali> usr13: It'd be real nice to just get the VESA drivers in there for 15 minutes grrr
[17:59] <Rods_Tiger> Why do I keep having to give my password each time I want to update the software on my Ubuntu computer? Isn't that a bit like worrying that burglars will break in and do the washing up and vacuum the carpets?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  system tasks need password.. plain and simple..
[17:59] <mikerose357> anyone with a recent ati that has a stable experience and runs games and compiz?
[17:59] <Rods_Tiger> no they don't
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  theres tools to set up auto dateing.
[18:00] <Burzmali> om26e_: no luck
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  check out sudoers configing and tweak it if you want
[18:00] <allowoverride> question - i have an intel 64 bit cpu, with the 64 bit amd iso work on it? new to 64 bit platform. thanks
[18:00] <allowoverride> will the..
[18:00] <Rods_Tiger> it's my computer, I'm here, nobody else is, there's absolutely no requirement for checking my passport and papers
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  then disable the password stuff.. because you are a single user.. dosent mean I want that  to be the default on my pc, or my work servers..
[18:01] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's not working with that comand and nither it is giving any error msg...
[18:01] <gRaCiOsO> Can i install ubuntu and after windows?
[18:01] <Rods_Tiger> how do I disable all password related stuff? get rid of the password itself, or is there a different way of hiding it?
[18:01] <trism> Burzmali: you can still get vesa mode...just replace nvidia with vesa in xorg.conf...or if you mean on the live cd, if you press f4 (I think) you can select safe graphics mode before booting into the live environment
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Rods_Tiger:  check the 'sudoers' system/command/configs is one way. theres also services/tools i recall that can auto-install updates if thats all you are worried about
[18:02] <Rods_Tiger> ok, ta
[18:02] <mikerose357> gRaCiOsO windows will screw up the bootloader
[18:02] <mikerose357> meaning you then have to reinstall it
[18:02] <Rods_Tiger> it doesn't even have an account in my name - the user account is called 'user' and the password is 'password' - and that's tedious enough
[18:02]  * jackey please help me ,how to use naim
[18:02] <gRaCiOsO> mikerose357,  and how to get it again?
[18:03] <cj> Dr_Willis: I know the feeling.  :)
[18:03] <krabador>  /join #linux-it
[18:03] <usr13> Burzmali:  You will probably find xorg.conf.failsafe or something like that with Driver "vesa" in it and you can just switch to it.
[18:04] <tapas> hi, i disabled all sound events in gnome and even uninstalled pulseaudio :)
[18:04] <usr13> Burzmali:  cd /etc/X11 ; sudo mv xorg.conf.falesafe xorg.conf
[18:04] <tapas> firefox still insists on creating a sound when poppoing up some dialogs
[18:04] <tapas> how to turn that off?
[18:04] <tapas> the menu is as unhelpful as ever
[18:04] <Burzmali> usr13: no xorg.conf files present
[18:04] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: it's not working with that comand and nither and it is not giving any error msg...
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> tapas:  well.. if you had kept pulse audio installed.. it has a feature to configure 'sound volumes' on a per app basis i recall.. but since you removeed pulse.. :) no idea.
[18:05] <allowoverride> gRaCiOsO: yes you can
[18:05] <ranjan> so is there any solution
[18:05] <tapas> Dr_Willis: hehe :)
[18:05] <usr13> Burzmali: xdebconfigurator - A script used with debconf to autoconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:06] <usr13> !xdebconfigurator
[18:06] <trism> Burzmali: try nvidia-xconfig to generate one if you don't have it
[18:07] <usr13> Burzmali: Yes, try trism's suggestion first
[18:07] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: should i post an bug report for this problem
[18:08] <usr13> Burzmali: You might also find nvidia-installer which might have the nvidia-xconfig as a part of it.
[18:08] <zilla1> usr13, ok one of my drives has a health of 16%, and Est. Lifetime of 45 days. that says to me HD failure. I'll get rid of it. but my main drive is at 100%, and there is a slow boot issue when I have just that one in
[18:08] <wes32> hi. i'm hoping to enable thumbnails only in specific folders, preferably by storing the created thumbnail files inside the specific folders included for thumbnail creation (and not ~/.thumbnails). is any part of this possible?
[18:08] <Timmymayes> If i want to use Dolphin as my default file manager how would i change the links in the Places section of my panel
[18:09] <wes32> this is on gnome 2.28/ubuntu 9.10
[18:09] <Pelo> !pastebin
[18:09] <om26er_> if i format a my memory stick from my psp ubuntu won't read it and gives the error. http://imagebin.org/73282
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Timmymayes:  i belive setting that up is a bit complex sadly. ive seen some guides on doing it. and you had to change several files
[18:09] <om26er_> and if i format memory stick from ubuntu then psp won't read it
[18:09] <allowoverride> anyone here good with beryl or compiz or equivalent window manager. i am purchasing a new laptop with nvidia card, and would like some links if possible or a heads up prior to installing ubuntu on it. anyone?
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> om26er_:  format it to be fat32/fat16 and it should.
[18:10] <om26er_> Dr_Willis: tried both
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> om26er_:   the default cards are fat32 from what i recall.   but i no longer haave a PSP so cant check
[18:11] <om26er_> Dr_Willis: psp formats it to fat16
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> om26er_:  that will be a issue with people playing their huge video files :) but  sony knows best.. (yea sure they do)
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:11] <usr13> zilla1: That may very well be the problem.  I had a PC once that had a bad slave drive drive and it was trying to boot but just didn't seem up to the task, but when I un-plugged that drive it booted fine.  (When I took the cover off, I could hear that the drive was noisy as it booted, and that was the clue that told me it was a HD problem)
[18:11] <nocleader> I'm trying to use dhcp3 server on one one of my ethernet cards but I can't get no joy.  Server starts normally but does not pass out any addresses.  I can config a host with a static IP and that works ... just no dhcp:)
[18:12] <Guest95092> when i run apt-get update i am getting the error public key not available :NO_PUBKEY 57B0CE6D09827771
[18:12] <trism> om26er_: I always just plug the psp in with a usb cord and go to Settings/USB Connection...works fine
[18:12] <usr13> nocleader: Sure..  Just use an IP that is outside dhcpd's pool
[18:13] <nocleader> Perhaps I can get a fresh set of eyes on this ?   http://pastebin.org/58165
[18:13] <ranjan> ActionParsnip:: i have found an one pecilure thing on my system :: i removed an multimedia file from  mounted drive from grafics mode but's it's entries are yeat present in comand proment   ifound it when i used ls
[18:13] <nocleader> user13 Yes, that's how i did the static just to verify my cabling.
[18:13] <om26er_> trism: one memory card works and the other don't but both worked in a friends winxp system
[18:14] <trism> om26er_: strange, I have 3 different cards and they all work
[18:14] <usr13> nocleader: So it is just not getting IP information from the DHCP server when you boot?
[18:14] <om26er_> trism: and also didn't work on fedora on my brothers pc. so maybe something with kernel?
[18:15] <nocleader> user13 Hmmm did not try a boot ... just a release and renew ... lemme try that
[18:15] <Timmymayes> Dr_Willis: its actually quite easy... just modify /usr/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop and change one line from Exec=nautilus to Exec=dolphin
[18:15] <Alinn> Hi
[18:15] <Timmymayes> thank you google
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: No need for that
[18:16] <om26er_> !hi | Alinn
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: You can just do dhclient.
[18:16] <Rods_Tiger> is there any way that an installation of ubuntu on a usb hard drive can detect whether it's connected to a netbook or a big computer, and start UNR or the other ubuntu appropriately?
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: But look at /etc/network/interfaces and see what it is set to.
[18:16] <usr13> nocleader: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[18:16] <Alinn> I have a problem with Grub. when i type sudo update-grub output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/330462/
[18:17] <Alinn> om26er_: :)
[18:18] <Burzmali> usr13: Checking the bug reports, it looks like stuff got broken with karmic for the 7800 gt, yeah
[18:18] <vashitn> does ubuntu works on a touchscreen
[18:18] <nocleader> user13 I don't want to flood ... its in http://pastebin.org/58165
[18:18] <mka> Hi
[18:19] <livingdaylight> vashitn, gute question
[18:19] <mka> I cannot configure my PC for any type of wireless network connection
[18:19] <vashitn> livingdaylight what
[18:19] <livingdaylight> vashitn, your question is good
[18:19] <zilla1> mka, what is your wireless device?
[18:19] <duckinator> Where do i set what daemons are automatically started?... (used to /etc/rc.d on other systems, so i'm completely lost :P)
[18:19] <livingdaylight> vashitn, to some degree
[18:19] <vashitn> livingdaylight will the screen work>>
[18:19] <mka> zilla1: it's "00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)"
[18:20] <livingdaylight> vashitn, there are some issues, like calibration for example
[18:20] <racecar56> duckinator: i don't know how to do that either, but maybe /etc/init.d could be related?
[18:20] <Alinn> sudo update-grub not work for me! http://paste.ubuntu.com/330462/ what i do ?
[18:20] <racecar56> duckinator: check in there
[18:20] <duckinator> racecar56: that's the actual scripts to start them, i'm not seeing how to automatically start them though :(
[18:20] <zilla1> mka, that looks like you pulled it out of the lspci output. Is it in fact listed when you run that command?
[18:20] <racecar56> duckinator: that's what i thought.
[18:20] <mka> zilla1: yes I did
[18:21] <vashitn> livingdaylight so no>>
[18:21] <vashitn> ??
[18:21] <racecar56> duckinator: (that's what i thought /etc/init.d was)
[18:21] <zilla1> mka : I am assuming there isn't a linux driver for that wireless device. Have you installed ndiswrapper?
[18:21] <Rods_Tiger> in UNR, how do I rearrange the order of icons?
[18:21] <aar> Hi, is it possible to send an encoded (e.g. base64) attachment by telnet mail using the terminal?
[18:21] <zilla1> mka : that's both the ndiswrapper-common package, and the ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 package, I believe
[18:22] <livingdaylight> vashitn, calibrating the touch interface so it knows where you touched. there are plans to fix it in 10.04
[18:22] <mka> zilla1: let me try
[18:22] <duckinator> racecar56: should've guessed, ubuntu is still using debian-style stuff, /etc/rc?.d (/etc/rc0.d -> /etc/rc6.d + /etc/rcS.d)
[18:22] <Alinn> om26er_: do you know how i solve my problem?
[18:22] <duckinator> now if only i'd ever bothered learning how to use it...
[18:23] <livingdaylight> vashitn, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-touchscreen-handling
[18:23] <om26er_> Alinn: i don't even know the problem
[18:23] <vashitn> what is Cache HDD is missing livingdaylight
[18:23] <cankoy> Alinn: what's in file  /boot/grub/device.map
[18:23] <mka> zilla1: I cannot get your packages from apt-cache search
[18:23] <livingdaylight> vashitn, ich weiss nicht
[18:23] <racecar56> duckinator: the only experience i've ever had with the stuff is (re)starting/stopping daemons in /etc/init.d
[18:23] <usr13> nocleader: You need the interface you are using to connect to the dhcp server to be set to auto  i.e. auto eth0
[18:24] <Alinn> cankoy: (hd0)	/dev/sda
[18:24] <vashitn> what is Cache HDD is missing ??
[18:24] <vashitn> is it bad :D
[18:24] <zilla1> mka, open up synaptic and search for ndiswapper. it'll list some similar stuff. lemme know if it doesn't; then we'll check your sources
[18:24] <Slart> vashitn: you tell us.. is it an error message? a mail from somewhere? something a friend told you?
[18:24] <usr13> nocleader: You can use network-admin to set it to auto (or dhcp)
[18:24] <mka> zilla1: besides this, wasnt my card supposed to be autodetected by the sytem?
[18:24] <cankoy> Alinn: you're using grub2, right?
[18:25] <Alinn> cankoy: yes ubuntu9.10
[18:25] <zilla1> mka, not necessarily. ndiswrapper isn't even on the install CD, so if your card isnt natively supported, then it can't be automatically setup
[18:25] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:25] <racecar56> hi
[18:26] <sebsebseb> racecar56: hi
[18:26] <om26er_> sebsebseb: sebsebseb=seb128?
[18:26] <sebsebseb> om26er_: no
[18:26]  * NaxoneZ pira
[18:26] <Chris-Mouse> anyone here able to give me a pointer to how I can force modules to load in a particular order?
[18:26]  * racecar56
[18:27] <usr13> nocleader: It might be gnome-network-admin
[18:27] <om26er_> ok
[18:27] <DasEi> Chris-Mouse: /etc/modules
[18:27] <Slart> Chris-Mouse: not sure if it works this way any more.. but you can have a look at the udev-rules.. perhaps there is some kind of setting there
[18:27] <duckinator> racecar56: i like the BSD style daemon system (ArchLinux, Slackware, *BSD, etc) so much more than upstart (Debian + Ubuntu only, iirc).. but it's for a desktop - not a server, so it's all good :P
[18:27] <Rods_Tiger> there's just no way of re-ordering what's in favourites on UNR
[18:27] <qwyeth> OK, so I'm a MIDI n00b, but I got my controller to talk to LMMS.  I push keys and LMMS makes sound.  Except about 1/5 of the time I hear ugly static noise instead of notes.
[18:28] <usr13> !info network-admin
[18:28] <duckinator> bbl
[18:28] <trijntje> Rods_Tiger, drag and drop
[18:28] <usr13> !info gnome-network-admin
[18:28] <Alinn> cankoy: :-[
[18:28] <cankoy> Alinn: did you edit grub.cfg yourself?
[18:28] <Rods_Tiger> trintje - I've been trying that for weeks - all it does is keep starting up the apps
[18:28] <DasEi> usr13: network-manager?
[18:29] <nocleader> usr13 It is set to auto : auto eth1
[18:29] <nocleader> iface eth1 inet static
[18:29] <usr13> DasEi: Yes.. Thank you.
[18:29] <Alinn> cankoy: غثس
[18:29] <Alinn> cankoy: yes
[18:29] <trism> qwyeth: perhaps check out http://www.pubbs.net/linuxaudio/200910/16098/
[18:30] <cankoy> Alinn: you're not supposed to edit that file
[18:30] <DasEi> nocleader: ,usr 13: or manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:30] <cankoy> !grub2 > Alinn
[18:30] <solexious> Does any one know of a guide for buying nvidia cards for ubuntu? I'm a bit lost
[18:30] <diddy> I am about to install Ubuntu 9.10 in 5 mins. Is it possible to have an extra partition that is not home?
[18:30] <wes32> i'm hoping to enable thumbnails only in specific folders, preferably by storing the created thumbnail files inside the specific folders included for thumbnail creation (and not ~/.thumbnails). is any part of this possible? (ubuntu 9.10/gnome 2.28)
[18:30] <DasEi> !hardware | solexious
[18:30] <usr13> nocleader: So what happens when you issue command:  sudo dhclient eth0
[18:30] <racecar56> i think ubuntu's software center is a very good feature.
[18:30] <diddy> I need a partition that can not fill up no matter how much stuff users save in the /home dir
[18:30] <Slart> diddy: you can set it up almost any way you want it
[18:31] <racecar56> good addition to make 9.10 even more aweome.
[18:31] <racecar56> *awesome
[18:31] <racecar56> :)
[18:31] <diddy> Slart, but what do I choose then?
[18:31] <solexious> DasEi: Many thanks
[18:31] <diddy> As a mount point I mean.
[18:31] <DasEi> np
[18:31] <Slart> diddy: manual partition or whatever it's called
[18:31] <allowoverride> anyone here good with beryl or compiz or equivalent window manager. i am purchasing a new laptop with nvidia card, and would like some links if possible or a heads up prior to installing ubuntu on it. anyone?
[18:31] <Chris-Mouse> SL/etc/modules doesn't mention the modules I'm having problems with. I'm getting warnings in my boot messages that ehci_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after
[18:31] <Alinn> cankoy: i not understand what you say
[18:31] <trijntje> Rods_Tiger, thats strange, in that case i dont know, sorry
[18:31] <Chris-Mouse> so how do I change that load order?
[18:31] <Slart> diddy: my hard drives end up in /media/disk1 /media/disk2 and so on
[18:31] <Alinn> cankoy: :-[
[18:31] <josvuk> dukz: Do you had the problems with the live ISo for ppc?
[18:31] <diddy> Slart, and the mount point will be? I think there is only, swap, home, /, etc to choose from. Isn't there?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I think at the moment it isn't that great really,  but it will replace Synaptic later on as well
[18:32] <Slart> diddy: nope.. you can select anything you want if you select the manual partition thingy
[18:32] <cankoy> Alinn: read the wiki about Grub2, and how to properly configure it. Something you've misconfigured.
[18:32] <josvuk> dukz: recently
[18:32] <diddy> Slart, OK.
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it's a good replacement.
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it's terribly simplified.
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: :)
[18:32] <usr13> nocleader: sudo dhclient eth1
[18:32] <nocleader> usr13:  It binds eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> the static address its supposed to be ... lemme try eth1
[18:32] <sebsebseb> racecar56: also later on you will be able to buy some commercial apps from it, or well that's the plan
[18:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb: though usually i'm the person who likes the terminal :)
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: thought so.
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: is it written in C or what?
[18:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I don't know
[18:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ,but it will become an important part of Ubuntu I think
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'll find out...
[18:33] <raistlin_M> hola WENAS
[18:33] <usr13> nocleader: So which one are you using to connect with?  sudo mii-tool
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'm sure it wil.
[18:33] <racecar56> sebsebseb: sorry for my spelling :P
[18:33] <sebsebseb> racecar56: the wiki page for it is good, the rationale is interesting
[18:34] <scunizi> Is there a gui conversion tool in the repos for .3gp files? (cell phone video)
[18:34] <josvuk> How to set up internet conection? I upgraded to karmic since then I can't open a dsl network. It apears only a notification which says I am now offline. Can someone Help me
[18:34] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i like how it waits for other package managers to finish instead of confusing the user by saying LOCK blah blah blah
[18:34] <raistlin_M> hay españoles por aki
[18:34] <Slart> !es | raistlin_M
[18:34] <josvuk> I set all data correctly in the networkmanager I think
[18:34] <usr13> josvuk: Is the cable good?
[18:34] <nocleader> user13 sudo dhclient eth1 does a bunch of discovers and says no dhcpoffers recieved
[18:35] <diddy> I want to use encrypted LVM. My hard disk is 400 GB.  I was thinking about this: /boot = 300 MB, root = 20 GB, /home = 100 GB. But how large should I make the swap partition? I am planning to have 8 GB of RAM in total.
[18:35] <brad_> HEY! Are there any GAY Guys who wanna chat in room PHILOS!?
[18:35] <usr13> nocleader:  sudo mii-tool
[18:35] <nocleader> usr13 eth1 is the interface I'm interested in
[18:35] <usr13> nocleader: You must be connected to eth0 instead of eth1
[18:35] <josvuk> usr13: Yes it is good. I am now online with it but on a different computer
[18:35] <allowoverride> !boot brad_
[18:35] <allowoverride> lol
[18:35] <Iowan> !ot | brad
[18:35] <brad_> Huh?
[18:35] <usr13> josvuk: ifconfig
[18:35] <brad_> So room philos
[18:36] <_Pb> is there any reason my ~/.xinitrc or .xsession wouldn't be parsed?
[18:36] <usr13> nocleader: What is eth0 ?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> racecar56: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[18:36] <nocleader> usr13 mii-tool shows eth0 and eth1 are both up
[18:36] <racecar56> sebsebseb: python
[18:36] <racecar56> sebsebseb: :D
[18:36] <josvuk> usr13: ifconfig don't reports me any error eth0 is listed properly
[18:36] <llutz> diddy: /boot = 300 MB, root = 20 GB, /home = 100 GB <- that's stupid
[18:36] <sebsebseb> racecar56: what's the :D for?
[18:36] <racecar56> sebsebseb: me likes python.
[18:36] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Python that does not suprise me, apparantly loads of Ubuntu is written in that
[18:36] <oscar> :D
[18:37] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'm still a bit rusty at it but i like it
[18:37] <usr13> josvuk: sudo dhclient
[18:37] <nocleader> usr13 eth0 is the usual LAN interface on my LAN; eth1 is a 2nd interface I'm using to test dhcp server
[18:37] <usr13> josvuk: You do have a dhcp server running, right?
[18:37] <Halitech> diddy, /boot may or may not be needed as a seperate partition, / shouldn't need anymore then 8-10gig, swap go for 8gig
[18:37] <nocleader> yes, it runs and with no errors... I've restarted it a few times
[18:37] <trism> _Pb: the new gdm in karmic ignores them
[18:38] <usr13> nocleader: Are you running dhcp server on that machine?
[18:38] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Python is a good first proggramming language!
[18:38] <usr13> nocleader: You know, you can only have one dhcp server on a network?
[18:38] <Rods_Tiger> is there any way of switching between UNR and ordinary ubuntu?
[18:38] <_Pb> trism: ah. i'm using dwm and want to use xsetroot or feh to change my background
[18:38] <racecar56> sebsebseb: it is.
[18:38] <valan> gdm will normally ignore xsession or xinitrc unless you specify it
[18:38] <usr13> nocleader: If you have two, you really need to turn one off.
[18:39] <josvuk> usr13: dhclient says : send packet: network is down . what does this mean?
[18:39] <usr13> nocleader: I'm sorry, but have lost track of what you are trying to accomplish.
[18:39] <Alinn> cankoy: I did this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1296225
[18:39] <usr13> josvuk: It means that the dhcp server is not responding to that interface's request for IP info.
[18:40] <nocleader> user13 Ok crap one dhcp is on eth0    I put dhcp3 server on just eth1 ... thats what I'm trying to do
[18:40] <racecar56> sebsebseb: yay working menus :) it was worth wiping off my hacked debian lenny install
[18:40] <usr13> josvuk: It is not receiving any signals from the cable.
[18:40] <racecar56> sebsebseb: yay its done fetching all those programs
[18:41] <usr13> josvuk: Make sure the connectors are plugged in securely.
[18:41] <bradley> HEY, are there ANY GAY guys who wanna chat in room  SHELL?  No that can't be it I'd get wrong IP's on eth1 ... I get NO IP's on eth1 ... OK OK I'll shut the other off temp to see if that makes a difference )
[18:41] <Alinn> cankoy: Thanks a lot :)
[18:41] <josvuk> usr13: The two computers are connectet to a switch, so should I quit my internet conection and try dhclient again?
[18:41] <usr13> Burzmali: Very good!  :)
[18:41] <Slart> !ops | bradley, we've already told you
[18:42] <BluesKaj> no gay trolling here,pls bradley
[18:42] <sebsebseb> racecar56: If you put something about Debian before, I didn't  see/read it, since I only joined in here a little while ago
[18:42] <nocleader> usr13  and all ... thanks for the help ... I'll take this up later
[18:42] <bradley> Ok
[18:42] <bradley> Bye
[18:42] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i never mentioned.
[18:42] <racecar56> :)
[18:42] <nocleader> usr13 bye
[18:42] <nocleader> bye
[18:42] <nocleader> bye
[18:42] <sebsebseb> racecar56: hacked Debian lenny install?  You mean like with packages that are quite a lot later or something?
[18:42] <FloodBot4> nocleader: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <usr13> josvuk: And what is that switch connected to?  Is it just connected directly to the DSL modem?
[18:42] <racecar56> sebsebseb: no.
[18:42] <usr13> nocleader: ok, sorry I could not solve your problem.
[18:43] <josvuk> usr13: Yes it is connectet directly to the dsl modem.
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: missing menu entries, firefox took a while to start (now it seems to open INSTANTLY)
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'm using gnome, previously i was using KDE 3
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: want to go to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[18:43] <SandGorgon> racecar56, use chromium browser.. ull love it
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: nah
[18:43] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i've used it before.
[18:44] <usr13> josvuk: Ok, that is the problem.  The DSL modem will only allow one connection from one PC. You will need to disconnect the other one.  Alternately you can get a router and put it in between the 2 PCs and the DSL modem.
[18:44] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i don't really like it.
[18:44] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i like my fast firefox now :)
[18:44] <racecar56> sebsebseb: previously i had to use some browser like konqueror -_-
[18:44] <solexious> I can use 32 bit ubuntu on a system with 8gigs of memory cant I?
[18:44] <sebsebseb> racecar56: I don't like off topic that much,  plus a pm got started, but you ended up chatting mainly in here, which your not really meant to do, for off topic stuff
[18:44] <usr13> josvuk: Connect the router's WAN port to the DSL modem and connect the two PCs to LAN ports.
[18:45] <sebsebseb> racecar56: above  I meant the room
[18:45] <racecar56> sebsebseb: k.
[18:45] <racecar56> sebsebseb: i'll just use PM instead, k?
[18:45] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ok
[18:46] <bradley> Do u guys know where I can post this??HEY, are there ANY GAY guys who wanna chat in room  SHELL? If u are a gay guy, go to room shell
[18:46] <xorred> kubuntu 9.10, lost sound yesterday, no error messages or anything indicating any problem - just lost sound... where do I look for logs?
[18:46] <sebsebseb> bradley: are you trolling?
[18:46] <Alan502> just a quick question, i cant remember where the repositories list is in ubutu, where is it?
[18:46] <bradley> Bye!
[18:46] <usr13> josvuk: Something like this will do the trick:  http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Linksys-EtherFast-BEFSR41-Router_W0QQitemZ320452176262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Routers?hash=item4a9c702986
[18:46] <trijntje> bradley, please stop posting that here, try #Ubuntu-offtopic
[18:46] <dAlfa89_> That guy's getting annoying...
[18:46] <IndianThrilla> hello all
[18:47] <usser> Alan502, /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <scunizi> sebsebseb: he's been trolling for a while..
[18:47] <Alan502> thanks usser :D
[18:47] <BluesKaj> yes he is , !trolling
[18:47] <IndianThrilla> does anyone know how to setup input for Japanese language?
[18:47] <microlith> IndianThrilla: what ubuntu version
[18:47] <IndianThrilla> 9.10
[18:47] <microlith> one sec
[18:48] <diddy> llutz, why is /home = 100 GB stupid?
[18:48] <IndianThrilla> everything i've found on the forums doesn't seem to work for me
[18:48] <seanicus> Hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my family's screen, but trepare partitions step is blank
[18:48] <scunizi> IndianThrilla: in Firefox?
[18:48] <microlith> scunizi: I think he means OS-wide
[18:48] <goku> what is up with the CDburning in 9.10??
[18:48] <sebsebseb> scunizi: Now I saw some of that when looking at things that were just put
[18:48] <microlith> (but that's just me)
[18:48] <josvuk> usr13: Hm, but I need only one internet connection at the same time per pc, so my solution with the switch should also work, and it worked with jaunty only after upgrading to karmic I have problems :-(
[18:48] <IndianThrilla> for any program in general
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: /boot = 300 MB, root = 20 GB, /home = 100 GB<- that's stupid
[18:49] <IndianThrilla> it worked on 8.10 but now that I upgraded, japanese input stopped working
[18:49] <diddy> llutz, why?
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: /boot = 300 MB <- that's stupid
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: sry
[18:49] <daftykins> seanicus: sounds like setup is failing to detect your hard disk(s) - what output do you get from "sudo fdisk -l" in terminal?
[18:49] <diddy> llutz ??
[18:49] <goku> what does CDburning in 9.10 do differently that nothing can read my disks???
[18:49] <Slart> llutz: stupid? why is that stupid?
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: even if you really need /boot, it should be 1-2G
[18:49] <diddy> llutz, too much ? too little?
[18:49] <microlith> IndianThrilla: ouch, upgrades are risky. If you go System->Administration->Language support, all the config for it is in there
[18:49] <llutz> diddy: 21M     /boot/
[18:50] <diddy> llutz, 1-2 GB? Why so much?
[18:50] <seanicus> daftykins: I get no output
[18:50] <llutz> diddy: ^ that's mine (not on own partition)
[18:50] <josvuk> usr13: Anyway thanky, and bye I have to logout of the chanel and try than dhclient
[18:50] <usser> llutz, well if you want to run different kernels and such 300mb is not such a bad idea
[18:50] <daftykins> seanicus: then it's not detecting any drives - what OS was on the system before?
[18:50] <goku> is there a known issue with the CDburning software in 910???????
[18:50] <IndianThrilla> microlith:  yeah I checked all that.  Japanese language is on but SCIM doesn't show the scim-anthy option which should allow Japanese language input
[18:50] <usr13> josvuk: Is it a switch or a router?
[18:50] <llutz> usser: most likely you don't even need extra /boot
[18:50] <usser> llutz, true that
[18:50] <seanicus> daftykins: vista.  But they crashed it, which is why I'm installing ubuntu
[18:50] <usr13> josvuk: What type of dsl modem is it?  Is it a DLS modem/router ?
[18:51] <daftykins> seanicus: what kind of computer is it?
[18:51] <usr13> josvuk: If it worked before, it should work again....
[18:51] <seanicus> daftykins: as in, it doesn't even go to windows
[18:51] <josvuk> usr13: It is a 5 port switch. :-)
[18:51] <DasEi> goku: which one ?
[18:51] <seanicus> daftykins: hp
[18:51] <diddy> llutz, I will use an encrypted LVM, that means I need an extra boot partition
[18:51] <usr13> What is the DSL router?
[18:51] <goku> the system burning software and brasero software both burn CDs that i can't read
[18:51] <DasEi> !burn | goku
[18:51] <goku> why?
[18:51] <scunizi> josvuk: a switch is not a router.. but a router can act like a switch
[18:51] <microlith> IndianThrilla: I wonder if it has something to do with this iBus stuff
[18:51] <usr13> josvuk: What model?
[18:51] <daftykins> seanicus: do you know what type of hard disk(s) are in the system? how old is it? are they SATA?
[18:51] <IndianThrilla> microlith: iBus?
[18:52] <DasEi>  goku : k3b caused no errors here
[18:52] <microlith> IndianThrilla: yeah, seems to be something new in 9.10
[18:52]  * microlith hasn't used it much
[18:52] <seanicus> daftykins: we got it last christmas.  I dont know how to find type of harddrive or whatever SATA is
[18:52] <goku> is it burning in a different format?
[18:52] <goku> i can read it on my system here
[18:52] <usr13> josvuk:  Does that 5 port switch have a port labled "WAN"?
[18:52] <goku> its just that nothing else can
[18:52] <daftykins> seanicus: you could open it up if you feel confident - what's your hardware and software experience like?
[18:52] <josvuk> usr13: D-Link DGS 1005D
[18:52] <__dean__> goku: do it the manual way
[18:52] <seanicus> daftykins: I am not confident at all.
[18:53] <xorred> kubuntu 9.10, lost sound yesterday, no error messages or anything indicating any problem - just lost sound... where do I look for logs?
[18:53] <diddy> I want to install 8GB of RAM and will install the 64bit version of Ubuntu 9.10 now. Does that mean I should make the swap space 16 GB?
[18:53] <seanicus> I have no hardware experiences
[18:53] <microlith> IndianThrilla: yeah System->Preferences->iBus Preferences
[18:53] <Slart> diddy: I'm not sure why using 300Mb for /boot would be stupid.. at the moment I use about 30 Mb on my boot.. 300 sounds reasonable.. a little space to spare but not too much
[18:53] <IndianThrilla> microlith:  oooohhh... just did a check on iBus.  I guess that might be the problem
[18:53] <IndianThrilla> microlith:  Thanks... I'll check that out.
[18:53] <DasEi> xorred: alsa unmuted ?  (/var/log/syslog)
[18:53] <xorred> unmuted, yes
[18:53] <microlith> I guess that means ubuntu replaced scim
[18:53] <__dean__> goku: genisoimage -J
[18:53] <diddy> Slart, yes I also have about 200 MB now. And I believe the kernels do not decrease in size over the years.
[18:53] <xorred> on startup, I get tha tmy audio device stopped working and I get a muted kmix
[18:53] <scunizi> diddy: are you going to be doing a lot of video? suspend to ram that kind of thing.. with lots of windows open.. then .. maybe :)
[18:54] <daftykins> seanicus: when the computer boots, does it show any kinds of Vista related attempts at booting?
[18:54] <usr13> josvuk: Is your DSL modem just a modem?  Or is it a DSL modem/router?  What is it's model number?
[18:54] <xorred> DasEi: on startup, I get tha tmy audio device stopped working and I get a muted kmix
[18:54] <diddy> scunizi, hibernation and suspension
[18:54] <seanicus> daftykins: I don't think so...I'd have to check.  But I'm pretty sure not
[18:54] <Slart> diddy: nope.. I doubt there will be any major changes in kernel size in the near future
[18:54] <Guest86556> So I just upgraded my Ubuntu Distro to 9.10 and now I have no taskbar or the bar along the top of the screen....any help?
[18:54] <IndianThrilla> microlith: iBus isn't setup for me properly so i'm going to have to install a few packages.  Be right back...
[18:54] <DasEi> xorred: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog                , give url here
[18:54] <seanicus> daftykins: I'll go on my laptop and turn off this computer.  I am sje46
[18:55] <microlith> IndianThrilla: ok
[18:55] <scunizi> diddy: if you have the space go for it.. that's a huge amount of space though.. 8 might be just as effective
[18:55] <diddy> OkropNick, I will go for it now.
[18:55] <daftykins> seanicus: ok, i am beginning to suspect more problems than just Vista creaming itself :)
[18:55] <microlith> what's this iSpell crap
[18:55] <xorred> Nov 28 00:50:50 home pulseaudio[2311]: alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[18:55] <seanicus> daftykins: as in, hardware problems?
[18:55] <daftykins> yep
[18:55] <diddy> scunizi, yes but I already have 8GB of RAM then I need double the amount for swap, no? Or is that rule of thumb obsolete?
[18:55] <daftykins> seanicus: i'm just getting food now, feel free to PM me when you're back or something
[18:55] <josvuk> usr13: The switch has no port labeled WAN. The Dsl modem is type teledat 430 from telekom.
[18:55] <daftykins> i'll be here
[18:55] <seanicus> daftykins: alright
[18:55] <xorred> http://pastebin.com/f5865ace5
[18:56] <Slart> diddy: obsolete, if you ask me
[18:56] <chuckf> diddy: largly obsolete
[18:56] <scunizi> diddy: it's a rule of thumb that is broken all the time.. situationally dependant
[18:56] <microlith> there we go
[18:56] <Halitech> diddy, pretty much, I have 2gig of ram and a 2gig swap and I seldom use anymore then 500meg of swap
[18:56] <diddy> OK could anybody give me a size for my swap if I have 8 GB of RAM and use hibernation and suspension, please?
[18:56] <MayaT> hello :)
[18:56] <microlith> also, 9.10 apparently doesn't need vmware libraries to exit the mouse/keyboard from the VM without hitting keys
[18:57] <Slart> diddy: 9 GB or so
[18:57] <Slart> diddy: you need *at least* RAM if you're going to use hibarnation
[18:58] <zcat[1]> how long does it take to hibernate 8G of ram? a reboot might be faster...?
[18:58] <diddy> I never understood why the swap has to be bigger than the RAM in the first place.
[18:58] <MayaT> how to install USB modem Vodafone into ubuntu?
[18:58] <Slart> diddy: because it saves the RAM to the swap when it hibernates
[18:58] <sebsebseb> diddy: might work with 2GB RAM in your case
[18:58] <usr13> josvuk: I do not find information on the teledat 430 in english so I do not know, but if it is a DSL modem/router it will work. If it is only a DSL modem, you will need to trade the switch for a router.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> diddy: uh 2GB SWAP
[18:58] <diddy> Slart, yes but the RAM can only hold 8 GB max. As far as I know that fits into 8 GB swap. So why do I need more than 8 GB swap?
[18:58] <sebsebseb> diddy: 9GB is a bit crazy for SWAP really
[18:59] <microlith> diddy: you don't
[18:59] <zcat[1]> diddy:  to allow for hibernating it has to be at least equal.. back in hte old days it was typically 2x ram, these days I run with 2G ram and no swap and it's never a problem...
[18:59] <Slart> diddy: oh.. I just heard that the other day.. someone had a good reason for wanting a little more swap than ram.. can't really remember the reason why
[18:59] <usr13> diddy: You do not need more than 8GB swap but wouldn't hurt to have it.
[19:00] <MayaT> how to install USB modem Vodafone 3G/GPRS  into ubuntu?
[19:00] <noshelter> usr13: it would hurt since u lost space
[19:00] <zcat[1]> possible because the way a gig is calculated is different for HDD's and 8G of drivespace is less than 8G of actual ram?
[19:00] <DasEi> xorred: hm, ressource busy, possible a bug in hda_intel syslog  says, try latest alsa drivers ?
[19:01] <zcat[1]> just a theory..
[19:01] <usr13> noshelter: "lost space"?
[19:01] <Slart> zcat[1]: hmm.. I think 8G of disk is the the same as 8G ram..  manufacturers might count differently when they sell drives though
[19:02] <xorred> DasEi: I have the latest
[19:02] <xorred> it happened after I tryied to install rhythmbox and it's "suggesteds"
[19:02] <scunizi> Slart: zcat[1] don't forget the overhead used in drive space..
[19:02] <xorred> reboot - gone sound
[19:02] <Slart> zcat[1]: I think they say.. 8 GB is the same as 8 000 000 000 bytes
[19:02] <xorred> remove rhythmbox - no sound
[19:02] <usr13> zcat[1]: Slart why would there be any difference?
[19:03] <zcat[1]> scunizi:  there's no overhead in swap is there?
[19:03] <Slart> scunizi: isn't that because of the file system? I have no idea how the swap file system works..
[19:03] <scunizi> usr13: zcat[1] Slart isn't there some journaling in swap?
[19:03] <zcat[1]> .. hmm, perhaps there is
[19:03] <DasEi> xorred: lsmod | grep intel | pastebinit
[19:03] <noshelter> usr13: can u use swap to store any data that ud store on ur hd? I think not, so if you resize ur hdd to have 8gb of swap, u lost 8gb of storage space
[19:03] <zcat[1]> it's 'swapfs' .. not just a raw ramdump, right? there must be some overhead to keep track of where blocks ended up
[19:03] <flyguy97> I want to create a custom live cd from a live cd iso. I have everything working but I want to remove the option during boot to install the cd, any suggestions?
[19:04] <Slart> usr13: 8GB is 8*1024*1024*1024 according to everyone else.. the hard drive manufacturers on the other hand say that 8GB is 8 *1000*1000*1000 which is a little less
[19:04] <serbanlupu> hy:)
[19:04] <serbanlupu> i have a problem
[19:04] <serbanlupu> with my ubuntu
[19:04] <Murda> The Nicest One Of Them All
[19:04] <serbanlupu> enyone can help me?
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !ask |  serbanlupu
[19:04] <usr13> zcat[1]: There is no overhead in having swap, but there is overhead in using it....
[19:04] <serbanlupu> anyone~!
[19:04] <noshelter> usr13: plus, im pretty sure hibernate works without swap, it will just save the ram into a swap file on the hdd, so that problem can be solved easily without a dedicated partition
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !anyone |  serbanlupu
[19:04] <AmokPaule> Hello,
[19:04] <scunizi> Slart: usr13 but that's not a fair comparrison of RAM vs Formatted drive space..
[19:04] <mikelam> how do i defrag my files in ubuntu?
[19:04] <usr13> Slart: Oh, good point.
[19:04] <zcat[1]> usr13:  so if I make a 8G swap partiton, that doesn't take 8G away that I could use for / or /home?
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !defrag |  mikelam
[19:05] <usr13> zcat[1]: well sure.
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mikelam: That's Ext4 by default in 9.10, but same thing regarding defrag
[19:05] <DasEi> zcat: yes it does
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mikelam: as far as I know
[19:05] <zcat[1]> usr13:  that's what I mean by 'overhead'
[19:05] <AmokPaule> I have a script here with contains severall words i all at one want to replace by another for example .png with .jpg, is that possible?
[19:05] <serbanlupu> i tried to install my video card starting with this stepts
[19:05] <serbanlupu> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.31.5_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Edgy_Manually
[19:06] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: uhmm  without going on your link even, uh don't use edgy stuff
[19:06] <DasEi> AmokPaule: gedit, search n replace
[19:06] <usr13> zcat[1]: I think we are becomming sea-lawyers
[19:06] <Nixot> !find libgtk-1.2.so.0
[19:06] <scunizi> zcat[1]: yes.. if you make a swap partition it does make less space for the other partitions
[19:06] <sebsebseb> !edgy |  serbanlupu
[19:06] <serbanlupu> how can i check if "the restricted repository is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list "?
[19:06] <Nixot> err
[19:06] <xorred> http://pastebin.com/f9261fcf
[19:06] <Nixot> how do I use !find for hardy?
[19:06] <scunizi> usr13: now there's an old navy term :)
[19:06] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: your using old info
[19:06] <AmokPaule> Can i use that aswell over the command line?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: you don't need to do that
[19:06] <Slart> scunizi: nope.. probably not.. but I'm not sure how the swap fs is designed.. come to think of it.. perhaps some googling might be interesting
[19:07] <serbanlupu> k:)
[19:07] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: Your on Ubuntu 9.10 yes, Karmic Kaola?
[19:07] <serbanlupu> y:)
[19:07] <Nixot> !hardy
[19:07] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: yes?
[19:07] <serbanlupu> yes
[19:07] <DasEi> xorred: looks correct to me (put nick in answer, or message can get lost)
[19:07] <usr13> scunizi: Yep...
[19:07] <scunizi> Slart: and we thought we had most of this easy stuff figured out .. :))
[19:07] <Nixot> !lts
[19:07] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb YES
[19:07] <Nixot> !eol
[19:07] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: ok well this works.  system > administration > terminal  and then  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:07] <xorred> DasEi: hmm yes I know it's correct as it worked :)
[19:07] <gribouille> hi
[19:07] <Slart> scunizi: hehe =)
[19:07] <usr13> scunizi: But it fits.
[19:08] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: and hit enter, put in your password, and download. and it installs for you
[19:08] <Nixot> !find libgtk-1.2.so.0
[19:08] <xorred> it's something got messed up by this rhythmbox
[19:08] <zcat[1]> also swap keeps track of memory use in pages; there must be some overhead to say what page in swam maps to what page in real memory..?
[19:08] <xorred> DasEi: I hate untested packages... :(
[19:08] <DasEi> xorred: changed hardware ?
[19:08] <scunizi> usr13: so is that term still used in todays navy or did it die out in the pre '80's timeperiod?
[19:08] <xorred> no, no hardware change
[19:08] <xorred> changed appartments - rebooted as moved the computer - no sound now
[19:08] <xorred> weird...
[19:08] <CarlFK> how do I install this on Jaunty?  https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gst-editor
[19:08] <Slart> zcat[1]: but there's nothing that says that that info has to stored in the swap itself
[19:08] <nyha> can I turn kernel updates of in ubuntu?
[19:08] <AmokPaule> Ty
[19:08] <xorred> I don't know what caused it, DaSei
[19:08] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: uhmm I meant
[19:09] <gribouille> I removed grub because it didn't work for me, and now, when I update my kernel, dpkg complains because it can't find update-grub
[19:09] <xorred> the move of appartment or upgrades or whatever.. .
[19:09] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: applicaitons > assessories > terminal
[19:09] <usr13> scunizi: I don't know really.  Would be interested to find out.  But you'd probably have to ask a CPO or higher to find out.
[19:09] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: I am not on Ubuntu right now,  I am using another distro instead
[19:09] <nyha> i just installed eeebuntu and I see that it want to install kernel 2.6.29 from eeebuntu and at the same time 2.6.28 from ubuntu...
[19:09] <CarlFK> gribouille: how did you remove grub? (apt-get remove?)
[19:09] <gribouille> CarlFK, of course
[19:09] <nyha> anyone that can help me with this, please PM?
[19:10] <Slart> nyha: you can disable updates in system, administration, update-manager
[19:10] <zcat[1]> nyha:  why would you want to install eebuntu on a regular system?
[19:10] <scunizi> usr13: I have an Admiral on tap (Dad).. spent 36 years in and retired in 83.. he's the only one I've ever known to use the term outside of you.. kinda shows my age I guess.
[19:10] <usr13> scunizi: I found "SEA LAWYER, n. One who attempts to shirk responsibility or blame through trivial technicalities." in "New Words in English"
[19:10] <sebsebseb> nyha: eeeubuntu is the old thing,  I think
[19:10] <sebsebseb> nyha: that is no longer made
[19:10] <sebsebseb> nyha: Ubuntu Netbook Remix that's what you want as far as I know
[19:10] <nyha> zcat[1]: its a eeepc...
[19:10] <zcat[1]> that too, called 'easypeasy' now I think
[19:10] <scunizi> usr13: also known as a BS'er
[19:10] <sylk3r> connect krakow.irc.pl
[19:10] <nyha> sebsebseb: its eeebuntu... not eeeubuntu
[19:11] <sebsebseb> zcat[1]: I think ther'es the old offical thing eeebuntu and the unoffical easypeasy or something like that
[19:11] <sylk3r> sry ww
[19:11] <sebsebseb> !unr |  nyha
[19:11] <usr13> scunizi: did you go overseas with your Dad?
[19:11] <zonema> anyone who know how i turn off join/leave info in pidgin irc chat
[19:11] <ilium_9> sebsebseb nyha: eeebuntu has been out for a while, but they're still developing it. The core team came out with Ubuntu Netbook Remix with karmic I think.
[19:11] <nyha> sebsebseb: I don't want the netbookrmx shit...
[19:11] <scunizi> usr13: 5yrs in Europe.. finished HS and 2yrs College in Munich
[19:11] <sebsebseb> !language |  nyha
[19:12] <ilium_9> nyha: I use eeebuntu on my netbook, what's up?
[19:12] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb thanks a lot :)
[19:12] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: make sure you use info for whatever version of Ubuntu your using
[19:12] <CarlFK> gribouille: any idea what package is trying to use update-grub?
[19:12] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: their is a lot of old info out there to,  that won't be valid for your version
[19:12] <nyha> ilium_9: well the update manager want to install kernel 2.6.28 from ubuntu repos and 2.6.29 from eeebuntu repos...
[19:13] <nyha> ilium_9: and this take to much space...
[19:13] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: also it's good to  use the things the bot recommends for help,   as well as the Ubuntu Pocket Guide which you can download
[19:13] <sebsebseb> !new |  serbanlupu
[19:13] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb i tried to make a OpenGl project and i have a project
[19:14] <nyha> ilium_9: and how can I remove old kernels that are installed?
[19:14] <DasEi> xorred: from former experiences I got my alsa back by recompiling it, havent tried on karmic though ( different behavoiur/ upstart) can try on your own risk
[19:14] <serbanlupu> i don`t know how to check if my video card is installed properly:(
[19:14] <serbanlupu> i use ubuntu for 1 week
[19:14] <serbanlupu> :(
[19:14] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: try this to begin with  system > administration > hardware drivers
[19:14] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: also which type of card is it?
[19:15] <gribouille> CarlFK, the kernel, of course
[19:15] <Slart> hmm.. very interesting info about swap.. the bottom comment http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[19:15] <gribouille> CarlFK, are you new to linux ?
[19:15] <CarlFK> gribouille: nope
[19:15] <Slart> seems the 2*RAM is a bit trickier than suspected
[19:16] <CarlFK> gribouille: you new to bug reporting? :)
[19:16] <ilium_9> nyha: I've found lots of help with the extra/old kernels on google, but to stop getting so much junk from update manager, go System->Administration->Update Manager->Settings, and in the Updates tab uncheck "Recommended"
[19:16] <serbanlupu> sebsebseb atiradeon x550
[19:16] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: oh ATI hmm
[19:16] <trism> nyha: dpkg -l | grep linux-image will show you what kernels you have installed, just sudo apt-get remove package_name to remove the old ones...make sure you keep the most recent one at least
[19:16] <gribouille> CarlFK, why do you ask such newbie questions ?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: those can be quite the issue in Ubuntu,  ATI graphics cards
[19:16] <serbanlupu> ...
[19:16] <sebsebseb> !ati |  serbanlupu
[19:17] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: Is there anything available in hardware drivers?
[19:17] <lengend> i got a problem when i close firefox...it just won't like end the process, i would always have to use the system monitor to end it...does anyone know the cause?
[19:17] <GhstW0lf> Can anyone help me with UNR
[19:17] <trism> nyha: uname -r will list the version of your current kernel, make sure to keep that package at least
[19:18] <hawk_> Ghstw0lf, i can maybe help
[19:18] <CarlFK> gribouille: because I am not going to guess at what you likely know - need confirmation
[19:18] <serbanlupu> he sad me "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[19:18] <serbanlupu> he sad me "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.":(
[19:18] <gribouille> CarlFK, just read what I wrote previously
[19:18] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: ok uhmm
[19:18] <serbanlupu> is ok to say me this?
[19:19] <Samuli^> hello, has anyone gotten ext3 drive accessible from windows? right now I can read the partition, but I can't write to it
[19:19] <Samuli^> *windows 7
[19:19] <sebsebseb> serbanlupu: well you might have to install a driver for full 3D/OpenGL support, but I don't know that much about ATI graphic cards issues in Ubuntu, since I have Nividia :)
[19:19] <Slart> Samuli^: I'm not sure if there is a read and write driver for windows.. which one are you using?
[19:19] <hawk_> Samuli^, when you install the ex2/3 driver you must enable write support
[19:19] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: sharing with Windows hmm, I woudn't recommmend that
[19:20] <DasEi> serbanlupu: which model ?
[19:20] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: also you  should be able to read and write to your Windows 7 partition from Ubuntu
[19:21] <Samuli^> hawk_, which driver would enable writes?
[19:21] <Samuli^> sebsebseb, I can do that, yes. The other way around is the problem. :)
[19:22] <Ponuwon> how can I find the decoder for QCELP?
[19:22] <sebsebseb> Samuli^: If it's just a dat a partition sharing with Windows uhmm ok maybe, but if it's your /home for example,  I would strongly recommend not to,  after all don't want a virus deleting your program config  files for Ubuntu, as well as some data
[19:22] <serbanlupu> Atiradeon X550
[19:22] <duffydack> serbanlupu, ati x550 is unsupported now
[19:22] <hawk_> Samuli^ - i've used the one from here: http://www.fs-driver.org/ without a problem
[19:22] <Samuli^> sebsebseb, it's ok, don't worry :)
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Samuli^:  I mean the hidden .folders in Home
[19:23] <Berzerker> sebsebseb, uh...viruses that infect windows don't infect Linux
[19:23] <serbanlupu> i need to buy another one?
[19:23] <DasEi> Samuli^: http://tinyurl.com/ygs5mtn
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Berzerker: a virus that has access to a Linux partition in Windows, can delete stuff from it
[19:23] <Berzerker> Samuli^, all you should need to do is double click the Hard drive under /media and it should mount it for access
[19:23] <Samuli^> thanks hawk_, I'll give that one a go
[19:23] <Slart> Berzerker: doesn't infect.. but can destroy
[19:23] <Berzerker> Slart, not if you're in linux
[19:23] <Berzerker> maybe if you're in windows
[19:23] <serbanlupu> duffydack : i use ext2
[19:23] <duffydack> serbanlupu, mines a 9800, and the free radeon driver works nice.
[19:23] <Ponuwon> how can I find the decoder for QCELP?
[19:23] <Slart> Berzerker: he's asking for read/write support in windows for ext3
[19:23] <Berzerker> Slart, ah.
[19:24] <IndianThrilla> microlith: you there?
[19:24] <microlith> ya
[19:24] <IndianThrilla> microlith: cool.  I got it to work.  Followed these instructions:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/464060
[19:24] <gRaCiOsO> I was using vbox ose and i change vbox version but when i try to run the virtual machine i have to recompile the vbox kernel modules eachtime i wanna run virtual machine if not it dosnt work
[19:24] <IndianThrilla> microlith: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[19:24] <microlith> IndianThrilla: no problem
[19:24] <gRaCiOsO> anyone know?
[19:25] <DasEi> serbanlupu: sry for that model, even my older 1600 does nice with open source now
[19:25] <Ponuwon> how can I find the decoder for QCELP?
[19:25] <duffydack> serbanlupu, check Visual Effects in the Appearance settings.. if set to normal then its using 3d ok, if set to None, try setting it to normal, if it wont , then it wont
[19:25] <Ponuwon> anyone know????
[19:25] <IndianThrilla> later
[19:25] <Slart> Berzerker: of course.. a nasty virus can just do random writes to the harddrive or just start destroying random partitions anyway.. so you're not safe just because you don't have read/write to ext3 available
[19:25] <Samuli^> hawk_, says this program only runs in vista etc. Did you run the installation in compatibility mode?
[19:25] <fakeer> I need to access shared folders on our ISP's LAN 10.39.*.* IP range PCs (directly connected to ISP cable). I am behind my router (so my IP is <IP_ADDRESS>). I can't use file sharing programs either. How to do it?
[19:25] <Slart> Ponuwon: this looks promising
[19:25] <Slart> Ponuwon: http://sourceforge.net/projects/retrocode/
[19:26] <hawk_> Samuli^ - nope, although i only used it with XP
[19:26] <hawk_> Samuli^ - i won't know how it works with win7/vista
[19:26] <Samuli^> ah, ok
[19:26] <Samuli^> I got it to install simply running it as administrator.. trying now
[19:26] <fakeer> I need to access shared folders on our ISP's LAN 10.39.*.* IP range PCs (directly connected to ISP cable). I am behind my router (so my IP is <IP_ADDRESS>). I can't use file sharing programs either. How to do it?
[19:26] <DasEi> Samuli^: I#d like to get a feedback about http://www.fs-driver.org/ on win7, or is that what you tried ?
[19:27] <poutine> fakeer, ssh -R
[19:27] <serbanlupu> isn`t work
[19:27] <hawk_> Samuli^ - good stuff
[19:27] <serbanlupu> i don`t undestand something
[19:27] <Samuli^> DasEi, I'm trying it now
[19:27] <duffydack> serbanlupu,  well, it seems the x550 is rv370 based card, which has acceleration with free radeon driver.
[19:27] <serbanlupu> on ubuntu 9.02(i think ) he works perfect:)
[19:27] <duffydack> serbanlupu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver   according to that.
[19:27] <Berzerker> it's either 9.04 or 9.10
[19:27] <Ponuwon> Slart, thanks I'm checking it now
[19:28] <Samuli^> DasEI, it works in my system.. but is read-only
[19:28] <duffydack> serbanlupu, and the radeon driver itself reports ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) as supported.
[19:28] <serbanlupu> 9.04:d
[19:28] <gRaCiOsO> I was using vbox ose and i change vbox version but when i try to run the virtual machine i have to recompile the vbox kernel modules eachtime i wanna run virtual machine if not it dosnt work anyone know ?
[19:28] <serbanlupu> serbanlupu@Brusture:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Sapphire X550 Silent] [1002:5b63]
[19:28] <DasEi> Samuli^: gimme a second, there was another solution, fine for xp n vista, second
[19:29] <duffydack> serbanlupu, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DRI
[19:30] <serbanlupu> serbanlupu@Brusture:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DRI (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) Loading extension DRI2 (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM [dri] Disabling DRI.
[19:30] <Samuli^> DasEi, thanks. Meanwhile I'm trying ext2fsd
[19:31] <usser> serbanlupu, do you have /dev/dri?
[19:31] <Archanamiya> this site looks like shit in IE7: http://billy.x10hosting.com/nini/index.php   Anyone know why?
[19:31] <duffydack> serbanlupu, thats trying to load DRI2, hmm might have to try force it to load DRI
[19:32] <aar> Hi, is it possible to send an encoded (e.g. base64) attachment by telnet mail using the terminal?
[19:32] <hellyeah> because of IE sucks
[19:32] <Samuli^> DasEi, ext2fsd did the trick.
[19:32] <Archanamiya> no
[19:32] <Archanamiya> srsly
[19:32] <racecar56> Archanamiya: the page looks fine...what's wrong with it?
[19:32] <Archanamiya> oh?
[19:32] <Archanamiya> hmm
[19:32] <Archanamiya> that's od
[19:32] <Archanamiya> d
[19:32] <FloodBot4> Archanamiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <dusty1> hello
[19:32] <Archanamiya> oops
[19:32] <Archanamiya> wrong chanel
[19:32] <dusty1> i only have like 15 minutes because im on a demo irc client on my wife's mac
[19:32] <mun25> how to check the live log
[19:33] <DasEi> Samuli^: was it then , found nothing else, GOOD to know, thx
[19:33] <duffydack> serbanlupu, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep /usr/lib/dri
[19:33] <serbanlupu> usser : bash: cd: /dev/dri: No such file or directory
[19:33] <dusty1> i am having problems installing ubuntu on my pc..
[19:33] <usser> dusty1, wth is demo irc client
[19:33] <dusty1> can anyone give me a hand?
[19:33] <racecar56> dusty1: what's wrong
[19:33] <ortsvorsteher> !installation
[19:33] <DasEi> !details | dusty1
[19:33] <ZykoticK9> gRaCiOsO, i was talking to some people in #vbox about that problem yesterday, all I have to say is that VBox 3.0.8 has been working fine on my 64bit Karmic host install - 3.0.10 i had an issue with VM performace being super slow, and at least two people yesterday weren't able to compile the vbox kernel on 3.0.10 & 3.0.12 - I don't know a solution for either of those versions.  best of luck.
[19:33] <Ponuwon> Slart: I don't know how to install that packet into Ubuntu
[19:33] <dusty1> ok
[19:33] <serbanlupu> duffydack : i have a lot of information...
[19:34] <serbanlupu> i put it in a file on internet
[19:34] <dusty1> well this is whats wrong, i have downloaded the latest 64 bit version of ubuntu and am installing it via cd
[19:34] <usser> serbanlupu, are you using a driver from ati? or the default one?
[19:34] <dusty1> i first tried to install it from vista but i kept getting access denied errors even though i was running as administrator
[19:34] <AmokPaule> is the a solution how i can mass convert files from 1 data type to another and take the names over?
[19:34] <Ponuwon> I'm trying to open a 3g2 extension and I can only get the video but no sound. It came off my cell phone.
[19:34] <DasEi> Samuli^: wass that for ext3 or 4 ?
[19:34] <sebsebseb> dusty1: installed from Vista, you mean Wubi?
[19:35] <usser> serbanlupu, pastebin your lspci | grep VGA, your Xorg.0.log and the results of glxinfo command
[19:35] <serbanlupu> usser default one:)
[19:35] <dusty1> so i decided to do a restart, boot from cd and and install like that, and now it is just sitting at resizing partition at 0% been like that for 45 minutes
[19:35] <Slart> Ponuwon: well... neither do I =/  but perhaps someone else does
[19:35] <n00byLubey> Hello, I need some help installing my Sound Card Drivers.
[19:35] <racecar56> if my apt lock gets stuck what do I do?
[19:35] <dusty1> yea i was trying to use wubi sebe
[19:35] <usser> Ponuwon, you need sound codec, i think its using something like libfaad
[19:35] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: with a little bash onliner should be possible. if you have the command that does the conversion
[19:35] <sebsebseb> dusty1: ok don't use Wubi :)
[19:36] <serbanlupu>  serbanlupu, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep /usr/lib/dri can i print it the resolt in a file?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: ,because things can go wrong with that, and also real partitions are better in the long run :)
[19:36] <redrum> Any good system and easy to learn programming autodidact? It is very important. Some better than another language to learn?
[19:36] <AmokPaule> i have a converter yes
[19:36] <usser> Ponuwon, no not faad, AMR sorry
[19:36] <dusty1> yea i didn't use wubi sebsebseb, i booted from cd and now its stuck at the resizing partitions
[19:36] <dusty1> i chose the install side by side and dual boot option
[19:36] <sebsebseb> dusty1: also let Vista resize itself, or data loss might happen
[19:37] <Ponuwon> usser: it wants me to search for the QCELP decoder which is unavailable
[19:37] <serbanlupu> usser :  http://pastebin.com/m470ca7b3
[19:37] <racecar56> my apt lock is stuck
[19:37] <racecar56> what do i do?
[19:37] <dusty1> sebsebseb: too late for that :( its already resizing the partition and stuck at 0%
[19:37] <n00byLubey> Hello, I have a question. How would I go about installing my Sound Card drivers. I tried going to the "System>Administration>Hardware Drivers" However the only thing that was found was my Video card (Which installed flawlessly)
[19:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: ok well it's not working
[19:37] <DasEi> racecar56: which output/behaviour ?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> dusty1: so you can probably just cancel.
[19:37] <racecar56> dusty1: what about the disk access light?
[19:38] <gfg> What does rm -rf / do?
[19:38] <racecar56> DasEi: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:38] <sebsebseb> gfg: trolling?
[19:38] <DasEi> gfg: DAMAGE!!
[19:38] <racecar56> DasEi: there are NO other apt programs running
[19:38] <gfg> racecar56: sudo apt-get install ...
[19:38] <dusty1> sebsebseb: yes it is flashing my hd is a 700GB hd so i thought it would take forever but not ths long heh
[19:38] <gfg> sebsebseb: I see you found my troll, what do?
[19:38] <dusty1> racecar56: the light is flashing
[19:38] <DasEi> racecar56: try from safemode / view top(htop) , don't have synaptic open
[19:38] <racecar56> dusty1: then it's doing something
[19:39] <sebsebseb> gfg: hmm?
[19:39] <duffydack> serbanlupu, copy paste into pastebin
[19:39] <gfg> Nothing
[19:39] <usser> Ponuwon, hm never heard of it, try installing packages from medibuntu repository see if that works
[19:39] <gfg> I shall help!
[19:39] <racecar56> DasEi: i have no other apt programs started, no synaptic or whatever
[19:39] <dusty1> racecar56: but it is still at 0% been that way for 45 minutes now, should it take this long?
[19:39] <Ponuwon> usser: thanks I'll try it
[19:39] <racecar56> dusty1: no.
[19:39] <sebsebseb> gfg: With?
[19:39] <racecar56> dusty1: it should have at least been %1.
[19:39] <gfg> sebsebseb: Ubuntu user with there questions..
[19:39] <awhatley> hey guys can anyone help with Virtualbox OSE
[19:39] <racecar56> dusty1: 1%
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !ask | awhatley
[19:40] <racecar56> DasEi: should i restart?
[19:40] <SwedeMike>
[19:40] <racecar56>
[19:40] <DasEi> racecar: install htop and have lokk what could cause it, else use sudo init 1 (logs you out of x) and try repairbroken packages after getting inet (netroot)
[19:40] <dusty1> racecar56: im scared to just restart because im afraid my hd will be screwed up
[19:40] <n00byLubey> Hello, I have a question. How would I go about installing my Sound Card drivers. I tried going to the "System>Administration>Hardware Drivers" However the only thing that was found was my Video card (Which installed flawlessly)
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !anyone |  awhatley
[19:40] <usser> serbanlupu, hm never seen that video card before, i guess you can try installing the driver from ati.com
[19:40] <racecar56> dusty1: you're on the live cd right? or is it the installer?
[19:40] <dusty1> racecar56: is the i64bit amd iso i downloaded from the main page
[19:41] <sebsebseb> awhatley: ok what's up?
[19:41] <dusty1> racecar56: burned to a cd
[19:41] <racecar56> dusty1: that isn't what i'm asking.
[19:41] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: for file im *.ext do; convertprogram "$file" -o "${file%%.*}".newext; done
[19:41] <racecar56> dusty1: is it the live cd or is it install
[19:41] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: something like that should work
[19:41] <DasEi> !sound | n00byLubey
[19:41] <awhatley> I need to install windows using a VM since one program I need requires windows... I have an ISO file but no access to cd rom... on netbook
[19:41] <AmokPaule> Many thanks :)
[19:41] <dusty1> racecar56: pretty sure its the standard install :)
[19:41] <sebsebseb> awhatley: Virtualbox can be set up to use your ISO
[19:42] <awhatley> what do i have to do to prepare it
[19:42] <DasEi> n00byLubey : sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:42] <racecar56> dusty1: oh well too bad :|
[19:42] <awhatley> i know i have to put it onto this macine first lol
[19:42] <sebsebseb> awhatley: Also depending on the program you might be able to have it working well in Wine
[19:42] <racecar56> dusty1: ...but there's always CTRL+ALT+F1!
[19:42] <magdato> hello, knows somebody what i need to install a touchscreen?
[19:42] <racecar56> dusty1: =>
[19:42] <awhatley> its software for Lojack for laptops
[19:42] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: for file im *.ext; do convertprogram "$file" -o "${file%%.*}".newext; done
[19:42] <sebsebseb> awhatley: yeah you do that, and then when setting up your vm tell it to use your ISO
[19:42] <awhatley> from file istead  of CD
[19:42] <dusty1> racecar56: if i were to quit the installer will my hd be ok
[19:43] <sebsebseb> awhatley: It's what kind of program?
[19:43] <racecar56> dusty1: i don't know,
[19:43] <racecar56> dusty1: is the hard drive making any noise
[19:43] <awhatley> its lojack for laptops.. theft deterant software
[19:43] <cbx33> hey - can you turn server into netbook by installing the meta package?
[19:43] <DasEi> n00byLubey : lspci | grep -i audio | pastebinit             ,give url here
[19:43] <Ponuwon> usser: i dont see that repository
[19:43] <racecar56> dusty1: if it is then it's definitely doing something
[19:43] <AmokPaule> ok many thanks :)
[19:43] <usser> !medibuntu | Ponuwon
[19:43] <awhatley> it requires windows to communicate with their monitoring software
[19:43] <sebsebseb> awhatley: That does what exactly?
[19:43] <thomas1> i have a problem using kvpnc. when the connection is establische there is no route to the internet. i typed route -n and there was not the vpn gateway for <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>. it has already worked some months ago. what's wrong
[19:43] <awhatley> if my computer is stolen then the computer calls in every 15 minutes
[19:44] <awhatley> and it tells them where the computer is when its connected to the internet
[19:44] <sebsebseb> awhatley: uhmm sounds like something that isn't really going to work in a vm
[19:44] <sebsebseb> awhatley: ,becasue for the program to work, the vm will have to be running
[19:44] <awhatley> well i know that if someone steals the computer they will format it
[19:44] <seyfarth__> Hey guys, I'd like to use an external (usb) cd/dvd burner. The system doesn't seem to do anything when I plug it in. Any idea how to install?
[19:44] <IdleOne> awhatley: contact the vendor and see if they have a linux version for the software. besides that I doubt you will be able to get it to work
[19:44] <awhatley> and when they do there is a bios chip that rebuilds the software
[19:44] <sebsebseb> awhatley: and then your vm will be removed as well
[19:45] <awhatley> i just need to be able to send one signal a day to tell them im ok
[19:45] <billy> hi just got ubuntu 9.10 and im new to it
[19:45] <sebsebseb> awhatley: it sounds like the kind of program that must be on the psyical hard disk, to work properly
[19:45] <sebsebseb> awhatley: or well at all
[19:45] <dusty1> racecar56: iit just gave me an error..
[19:45] <n00byLubey> I tried using the "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" command and it didn't return my proper sound card. I have an onboard sound card which I DON'T wish to use and a PCI Sound card that I DO wish to use.
[19:45] <DasEi> n00byLubey :        asoundconf list | pastebinit             ,give url here
[19:45] <dusty1> racecar56: i gotta go baby is up from nap sorry
[19:45] <racecar56> dusty1: k
[19:45] <sebsebseb> !new | billy
[19:45] <awhatley> so then now i  will have to dual boot again lol
[19:45] <erUSUL> seyfarth__: do « tailf /var/log/messages » then plug the burner. paste the new output you get
[19:45] <billy> i have been  using windows 7 so now i dual boot them side by side
[19:45] <erUSUL> !paste | seyfarth__
[19:45] <DasEi> seyfarth__: does lsusb find it ?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> awhatley: well  the program won't run, when Ubuntu is running
[19:46] <seyfarth__> DasEi: I don't think so?
[19:46] <billy> where can i find a list of programs to get like adobe flash player?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> awhatley: I guess
[19:46] <sebsebseb> billy: you can use graphical  to install stuff,  or commands which is faster
[19:46] <Archanamiya> hello
[19:47] <DasEi> seyfarth__: y or n ?
[19:47] <awhatley> i know but just to give them the signal they need... I was thinking of maybe putting osx instead of windows.... do you know if i hve to install osx first? or can i do it after linux is installed
[19:47] <genii> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | billy
[19:47] <Wolf412> okay, I want to install ubuntu using wubi.  I used unetbootin to create a usb startup disk, put it in while in windows and ran it.  I selected install inside windows, everything went fine, but when I tried to boot into ubuntu from windows boot manager, grub didn't work, just had a black screen with a command prompt where I could enter commands.  I am in ubuntu right now, used the usb to boot...
[19:47] <Wolf412> ...directly in, is there anything I can do?
[19:47] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, get a live cd ;)
[19:47] <Wolf412> I have one, it's a usb
[19:47] <sebsebseb> awhatley: As far as I know you can't run OS X on a netbook, since it needing more powerful hardware.
[19:47] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, get a live CD ;)
[19:47] <Archanamiya> CD
[19:47] <sebsebseb> awhatley: and so on
[19:48] <Wolf412> what's the difference and how does that help my problem?
[19:48] <billy> sebsebseb what is the command to install adobe flash? i tried sudo apt-get install adobeflash
[19:48] <awhatley> crap lol
[19:48] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, or, remake the live USB
[19:48] <Wolf412> did you even read what I said?
[19:48] <Archanamiya> mhm
[19:48] <sebsebseb> awhatley: Also to run the real proper OS X, you need a Mac
[19:48] <Wolf412> I've tried reinstalling about 5 times now
[19:48] <DasEi> billy: flashplugin-nonfree
[19:48] <Archanamiya> wow
[19:48] <Wolf412> grub never works no matter what I do
[19:48] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, hmm. i see.
[19:49] <erUSUL> billy: sudo aptitude intall ubunturestricted-extras
[19:49] <seyfarth__> Oh nevermind, it works perfectly and didn't need to install anything. I just needed to put a cd in the drive :) Thanks to everyone in the ubuntu community for making it "just work" (and offering to help when i thought it didnt) :]
[19:49] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, can you try to install w/o Wubi
[19:49] <awhatley> crap lol
[19:49] <Wolf412> if I create a partition and install there, won't grub still be stupid?
[19:49] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, like a normal installation from a live CD/USB?
[19:49] <AmokPaule> erUSUL that worked perfect :)
[19:49] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, im not sure. it's worth a shot
[19:49] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: ;P you are wellcome
[19:49] <DasEi> billy: sudo aptitude intall ubuntu-restricted-extras    , as ursul said, more needed stuff
[19:49] <Ponuwon> usser: did all the stuff from the terminal and it just fails
[19:49] <serbanlupu> usser : are you here?
[19:49] <DasEi> s*, he
[19:50] <Wolf412> if grub doesn't work though, will I be able to access windows again?
[19:50] <Ponuwon> usser: never mind
[19:50] <sebsebseb> billy: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer   that should work, but if you want other things taken care of at the same time such as AVI support for example.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:50] <co_shifty> Hi guys, when I click on "Computer" in places, it shows my partitions, cd-rom, and a floppy drive. I don't have a flopply drive; how can I remove it then?
[19:50] <Archanamiya> Wolf412, I'm not sure. Sorry :S
[19:50] <Wolf412> crap
[19:50] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, unmount it
[19:50] <Wolf412> alright well thanks for the help anyways
[19:50] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, ;)
[19:51] <co_shifty> Archanamiya, thanks for quick reply :), but its not mounted though, its weird.
[19:51] <DasEi> !pm | n00byLubey
[19:51] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, That's weird :S
[19:51] <zcat[1]> co_shifty:  dissable it in bios?
[19:51] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, what he said
[19:51] <co_shifty> zcat[1], hmmm Ill try to disable in bios brb
[19:52] <DasEi> n00byLubey: the urls from the pastebins ?
[19:52] <frog> could someone please please please help me to fix my sound. i use for example amarok, start flash and loosing the sound
[19:52] <frog> what can i do#
[19:52] <frog> ?
[19:52] <CarlFK> gribouille: you installed from cd with grub, then removed grub?
[19:52] <n00byLubey> DasEi: could you please give me the command again to get the url? I did the install but I don't know what to do now.
[19:53] <Archanamiya> n00byLubey, to get a url?
[19:53] <Archanamiya> n00byLubey, wget?
[19:53] <DasEi> lspci | grep -i audio | pastebinit
[19:53] <djaerobie> i have one question... is there any way to remove the boot screen? i mean the screen where it stands Ubuntu, and a loading bar under it. that on that comes after the black and white ubuntu logo, i'm using 9.10 karmic koala.
[19:53] <DasEi> asoundconf list | pastebinit
[19:53] <la_pantera> hi everyone
[19:53] <la_pantera> looking for sme help here
[19:54] <nhasian> la_pantera, go ahead and ask your question
[19:54] <n00byLubey> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f5ab80b1c
[19:54] <DasEi> !ask | la_pantera
[19:54] <sebsebseb> djaerobie: well with KDM instead of GDM,  I didn't get that screen
[19:54] <la_pantera> sorry, i'm a total newbie!
[19:54] <sebsebseb> !new |  la_pantera
[19:54] <la_pantera> need to configure an in-built mic
[19:55] <sebsebseb> la_pantera: oh dear :( well good luck
[19:55] <DasEi> n00byLubey: Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster  , your card ?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> la_pantera: that can be rather tricky to do
[19:55] <la_pantera> i know... i tried all day yesterday, still no mic
[19:55] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Yes seems right, The card I have in right now is a Sound Blaster Audgy 2 SE.
[19:56] <DasEi> n00byLubey: second , looking up, should be in kernel
[19:56] <erickcion1> hi I have ubuntu 9.10 and i can't adapt the brigthness of my laptop... any help?
[19:56] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Okay, thank you.
[19:57] <sebsebseb> la_pantera: see my pm :)
[19:57] <DasEi> n00byLubey: yes, supported, : sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[19:57] <thomas1> i have a problem using kvpnc. when the connection is establische there is no route to the internet. i typed route -n and there was not the vpn gateway for <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>. it has already worked some months ago. what's wrong
[19:57] <djaerobie> sebsebseb: but i am using GDM, i dont want any boot screen, just text. i have removed "quiet splash" from the grub.cfg file. but that didnt remove the screen that comes just before the login screen.
[19:57] <sebsebseb> djaerobie: ok well I think you need to remove xsplash as well then
[19:58] <djaerobie> ok
[19:58] <la_pantera> yeap, saw it
[19:58] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Okay done, what next?
[19:58] <co_shifty> Archanamiya, alright guys, I did it and its still there with a different name, so I try to mount it ant it give's me it does not exist :s
[19:58] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, oh dear. is it that big a deal?
[19:58] <DasEi> djaerobie: edit /etc/default/grub,  grub.cfg gets overwritten again
[19:58] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, =/
[19:59] <DasEi> n00byLubey: yes, supported, :  gnome-alsamixer
[19:59] <djaerobie> ok. Thanks
[19:59] <[diablo]> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8620/gnomeq.jpg one for the kubuntu team ;-)
[19:59] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   gnome-alsamixer
[19:59] <frog> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f518cd394  http://pastebin.com/f5730a9c1  (if you were talking to me)
[19:59] <DasEi> frog: nope
[19:59] <co_shifty> Archanamiya no :), its been there for a while, I'm doing clean up, was wondering how to remove that in-consistency
[19:59] <gribouille> CarlFK, yes
[20:00] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, meh. don't know. I'd just ignore it personally. but it's up to you. sorry I can't be of more help :S
[20:00] <gfg> [diablo]: <3
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> [diablo]: i'd say the same to gnome :D
[20:00] <[diablo]> hehe
[20:00] <DasEi> n00byLubey: de-mute it
[20:00] <gfg> co_shifty: what is the inconsistancy?
[20:00] <co_shifty> Archanamiya, no problem thank you very much anyways :)
[20:00] <Archanamiya> co_shifty, :D
[20:01] <djaerobie> i am editing /etc/default/grub now. but dont know what to modify
[20:01] <frog> anyone could help me please.
[20:01] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Trying to figure out how.
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> [diablo]: lxde all the way
[20:01] <Archanamiya> frog, what's you question?
[20:01] <gfg> ActionParsnip: Seconded
[20:01] <frog> Archanamiya: could someone help me to fix my sound. i use for example amarok, start flash and loosing the sound
[20:01] <co_shifty> gfg, on "Computer" in place's it shows a flopply drive that is not mounted, but I don't have a flopply drive :/
[20:01] <gfg> Its lighter have gFAILnome and you can still use HAL
[20:01] <DasEi> n00byLubey: the boxes below main,pcm and Turn on “Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack”
[20:02] <niixie>  Ohai I need some help with ubuntu
[20:02] <gfg> co_shifty: That is just linus
[20:02] <gfg> niixie: orly?
[20:02] <gfg> co_shifty: is it fd0?
[20:02] <niixie> gfg: rly
[20:02] <Archanamiya> frog, Flash as in Adobe?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> gfg: seen the lubuntu project ;)
[20:02] <co_shifty> gfg, really? It is "floppy0"
[20:02] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I've done that, however I'm still not getting any sound.
[20:02] <DasEi> frog : /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[20:02] <co_shifty> gfg, what does it mean?
[20:03] <DasEi> frog : sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart *
[20:03] <gfg> co_shifty: /dev/fd0 => /media/floppy0
[20:03] <frog> DasEi : it never helps
[20:03] <gfg> ActionParsnip: There is a project?!?!?!
[20:03] <frog> Archanamiya: like youtube
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> !lubuntu
[20:03] <niixie> gfg: i have a second computer at my home, with 2 files on i would like to get on this computer? howto?
[20:03] <chatZilla> how come an iso torrent file don't need an Md5 Sum?
[20:03] <gfg> niixie: Get a flash drive and save it to them, then open it up on your ubuntu computer
[20:04] <maco> chatZilla: torrents checksum each chunk as they go
[20:04] <microlith> torrents are hashed down to the block level with SHA1
[20:04] <gfg> niixie: its the same as windows.... There isnt a diffrenct
[20:04] <gfg> (sp)
[20:04] <gfg> lubuntu
[20:04] <boudhaa> bonsoir tout le monde
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> gfg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu  its an official release too :D
[20:04] <Archanamiya> frog, I see
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> chatZilla: i still check them with md5 but the torrent protocol checks the data once all the data is downloaded
[20:04] <niixie> I have, but the thing is. My second computer is a server so i dont have a screen connected. easier if i open it somehow with the console
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> chatZilla: i'd still md5 though
[20:04] <yofel> niixie: sftp?
[20:04] <co_shifty> gfg, I'm not following, not too familiar with linux structure, what is it?
[20:04] <DasEi> n00byLubey: can figure it out ?
[20:04] <mcr_> niixie ssh
[20:04] <frog> Archanamiya: but not only flash
[20:04] <djaerobie> i have a problem. each time i start ubuntu. i have to delete this line in the grub startup menu ""search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 584221f7-f8b1-46f2-ad06-352e0cfe9618"" is there any way to fix this?
[20:05] <Archanamiya> frog, hmm. odd.
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> yofel: sftp == ftp with encryption
[20:05] <frog> Archanamiya: i cant start amarok any more sometimes
[20:05] <niixie> I dont think thats installed on the server but, ill watch? any commands i should know?
[20:05] <chatZilla> how do you md5 a torrent file? I usually use DownThemAll firefox add-on to Md5 from direct downloads
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: does the '--no-floppp' screw things up?
[20:05] <DasEi> !mdsum | chatZilla
[20:05] <yofel> ActionParsnip: yes, and it's easier to set up than ftp if you don't exactly need an ftp server
[20:05] <gfg> co_shifty: Its just a shortcut to the file /dev/fd0 when mounted, you can ignore it. but if you need a floppy you wont be able to mount it, it does the work for USB/IDE/SATA floppy drives.
[20:05] <DasEi> !md5sum | chatZilla
[20:05] <n00byLubey> DasEi: No.. I can't seem to figure it out. It's not muted and I checked all the boxes below
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> chatZilla: torrent the data as normal, once the file is completed, md5 test the iso file as normal
[20:06] <DasEi>  chatZilla: md5sum <filename>
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> yofel: sure, openssh-server gives it
[20:06] <DasEi> n00byLubey: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[20:06] <gfg> :O
[20:06] <DasEi> n00byLubey:  alsamixergui
[20:06] <gfg> DasEi: THank you!
[20:07] <gfg> I have been looking for that package..
[20:07] <co_shifty> gfg: Well ok, excuse my noobishness :), but it's a just in case I want to mount a floppy right?
[20:07] <gfg> co_shifty: Yes
[20:07] <Archanamiya> frog, :S
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: if you edit /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib   and remove '--no-floppy' save the file and run: sudo update-grub   it will remove it for always from grub
[20:07] <DasEi> n00byLubey:  is your s-card liste in the heading of ami-gui ?
[20:07] <djaerobie> Ty
[20:07] <DasEi> listed*
[20:07] <co_shifty> gfg: cool thank you very much, I appreciate it :).
[20:07] <gfg> co_shifty: anytime :D <3
[20:08] <n00byLubey> DasEi: The only thing I see is "Pulse Audio"
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: theres a bug report for it, I had to add a line to my cron'd upgrade script to email me if it got added, and manually remove it before I rebooted
[20:08] <DasEi> !sound | n00byLubey
[20:08] <gfg> ActionParsnip: Is it bad that I am listening to Britney spear while makeing my ubuntu server a domina control for windows..
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: this is a better solution
[20:08] <djaerobie> ok
[20:08] <gfg> !ot
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> gfg: not at all, if its what makes you groove then its awesome dude
[20:09] <DasEi> hehe
[20:09] <mro> hi there, have a problem. installed 9.10 karmic and it does not find the sata-interface of nvidia leaving me with 250gb of nonusable harddrive where all my mails and other stuff is stored on
[20:09] <rezaa> User's Cron does not work but root's cron just works, /etc/cron.allow contains two lines: root, user; cron.deny contains: guest.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> gfg: i've got x factor playing with some guy singing some take that noise
[20:09] <mro> so how can i install the proper sata-driver for nvidia? i already installed the nvidia gfx-driver in the hope it also provides the other stuff but unfotunately it doesn't
[20:10] <DasEi> mro: sudo fdisk -l doesn't see the drive ?
[20:10] <hassan> hi how can i play glest ?how can i find ip for glest?
[20:10] <mro> DasEi, not at all, only the IDE-drive is recognized
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> mro: does the disk / partition show up in: sudo fdisk -l
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !info glest
[20:10] <DasEi> mro : bios checked ?
[20:10] <djaerobie> ActionParsnip: also, do you know how to get pure text boot? so there is no graphical during the boot. i have managed to remove the first boot picture. but i don't know how to remove the xsplash.
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> hassan: enable multiverse repos
[20:11] <mcr_> mro: go into your BIOS and set your SATA interface as IDE compatible
[20:11] <mro> ActionParsnip, mro disk is properly noted in biod and during hardware-setup of pc. only ubuntu doesn't recognize it. well dmesg tells me it has loaded some sata_nv but it still doesn't pop up
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: could uninstall xsplash or you can edit /etc/default/grub and remove the quiet option
[20:11] <mro> mcr_ will try now
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> mro: does it show up in the fdisk output?
[20:11] <djaerobie> i have removed the "Quite Splash" already.
[20:11] <mro> ActionParsnip, no, it doesn't
[20:11] <usamahashimi> hi
[20:12] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: no, no out in fdisk he said above
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mro: then run: lspci     andsee if there are bugs logged with your controller
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> djaerobie: all i can suugest is remove xsplash
[20:13] <usamahashimi> i have nvidia gforce GeForce 7050 / nForce 610i video card, when i install the nvidia proprietary driver, the system freezes, how can i fix it?
[20:13] <djaerobie> ok
[20:13] <DasEi> usamahashimi: which driver did you try ?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: what nvidia driver are you installing? what release are you on? what kernel are you on?
[20:13] <usamahashimi> 180.xxx which is reccomended by jockey
[20:14] <usamahashimi> i am using ubuntu 9.10
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: what is the output of: uname -a
[20:14] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I went to the alsa mixer website and it said for my card "Digital/Analog input does not work yet. Needs more development work." So does that mean my card won't work on ubuntu?
[20:15] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: Linux alpha 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:15] <n00byLubey> DasEi : Or does that just mean I need to find other means of making it work on ubuntu? and if so.. what other ways are there?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: try a newer kernel
[20:16] <duffydack> Anyone know how to disable DRI2 and just use DRI in karmic/radeon driver.  I put disable DRI2 in xorg.conf and it does disable during boot but then enables upon boot.
[20:16] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: is there any problem with the old kernel?
[20:16] <songer> hello, my desktop is to big
[20:17] <DasEi> n00byLubey: I'm little irritated, you said it's audigy , which alsa lists as supported, your paste said : Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: possibly
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1010002.html
[20:17] <sshc> songer: hi, can you be be more specific?
[20:17] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: do i have to restart after installing that kernel?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: yes
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: check your case in the file too
[20:18] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: ok, lemme try it, then i will tell you the results
[20:18] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Yes, If you go to " http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs " and search the page for "CA0106" That is where I found it.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: could alwys try the 190 driver
[20:18] <duffydack> ActionParsnip, its disabling it during boot, ive checked.. it then gets force enabled
[20:18] <duffydack> for some reason
[20:18] <rezaa> no one? cron?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: wasnt even aware of dri2 tbh
[20:19] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: but the "Hardware Drivers" is showing 180.5 as the latest!
[20:19] <duffydack> ActionParsnip, Im just ruling it out with my karmic/lucid + radeon driver + flash (adobe and gnash) + any browser = sluggish system...
[20:19] <DasEi> n00byLubey: sb 16, is what I found, too
[20:19] <awhatley> how can I change the size of my partitions. I just deleted windows partition and now i have more free space
[20:19] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: 185
[20:19] <djaerobie> actionparsnip: do you know how to remove the xsplash?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: you havent added the 190 repo ;)
[20:19] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   modinfo soundcore | pastebinit
[20:19] <duffydack> Xorg hits the roof...
[20:19] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: no, can you please tell me?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[20:20] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: 190 is beta, 185 is stable
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: i use the 190 on my 6150 and it works great
[20:20] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: thanks, it will try 190 and will tell you the results :)
[20:21] <n00byLubey> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f6870f833
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: might make things nice
[20:21] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: brb
[20:21] <DasEi> n00byLubey: drivers there
[20:22] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, I uninstalled nautilus-dropbox a while ago, but the ~/.dropbox directory is still on my system taking 3.4GB from its database file. Is it safe to remove the .dropbox directory completely?
[20:22] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: one more thing! why ubuntu repos are so much slow?
[20:22] <mcr_> KnifeySpooney: yes
[20:22] <n00byLubey> DasEi: So why am I unable to hear any sound? My speakers are pluged in and pluged into the correct sound jack in the back of the sound card.
[20:22] <KnifeySpooney> mcr_: ok thanks
[20:22] <DasEi> n00byLubey:   pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[20:23] <n00byLubey> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f1ef8c4b8
[20:23] <DasEi> usamahashimi: checked fastestmirror in synaptic ?
[20:23] <amites> Anyone here worked with Ruby gems? I'm having conflicts between the gem install and package-manager
[20:24] <usamahashimi> ActionParsnip: I tried, i also tried my local mirror but still downloading very slow....oh kernel installed, lemme reboot my system :) brb
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> usamahashimi: heavy load?
[20:24] <amites> Trying to find a tutorial for how to direct the executable to the gems*/bin dir rather than the /usr/bin dir which is causing errors since I unstalled an outdated apt-get package
[20:25] <Thunder_Drop> I'm trying to start a program on a new X and have been able to get that far but the new X always displays on my primary monitor.  Which variable do I need to change in order to get it to display on my second monitor?
[20:26] <songer> I just active  visual effects and it install  the card driver
[20:27] <songer> sshc: when I did restar mi monitor said out of range
[20:27] <DasEi> n00byLubey: checked your bios ? f.e. enable ecc for your printer ,setting wrong, also check if sound is enabeled , it's a standard-chip,
[20:27] <Thunder_Drop> songer: I have the second monitor working but I'm starting a second X to contain my program but I'm not sure how to get it to use the second monitor instead of the first
[20:27] <n00byLubey> DasEi: Okay I'll check, be back in a bit.
[20:27] <DasEi> np
[20:28] <sshc> songer: your resolution is probably too big.  Restarting your computer might fix this too
[20:29] <Thunder_Drop> I have added the right lines to my xorg.conf to succesfully start the program on a new X but I can't figure out which variable I need to edit in order to start the X on my second monitor instead of the first
[20:29] <daftykins> songer which driver did you install? nvidia one?
[20:29] <daftykins> Thunder_Drop: if you have two graphics cards you could specify the PCI bus identifier of the second card
[20:29] <daftykins> if you've got two displays on one card, then it's something else i'm not sure of :D
[20:29] <Thunder_Drop> daftykins: I only have one card
[20:30] <daftykins> ah, what type?
[20:30] <Thunder_Drop> daftykins: Nvidia geforce go 7600
[20:30] <Thunder_Drop> :)
[20:30] <songer> ok
[20:30] <daftykins> ah, laptop?
[20:30] <daftykins> secondary = VGA output or something?
[20:30] <Thunder_Drop> daftykins: indeed
[20:31] <coz_> Thunder_Drop,   did you open nvidia-settings  with sudo?  make chanes to the order of the monitors and then save to xconfig?
[20:32] <coz_> Thunder_Drop,  when you   sudo nvidia-settings  ... go under  "X Server Display Configuration" make your changes there and then click  "Save to X Configuration File"
[20:32] <Thunder_Drop> coz_: I have both monitors working via the nvidia-settings but I'm starting a second X and am not sure which variable in the xorg.conf to change to start the second second monitor
[20:33] <mro> mrc: no effect, still does not recognize the harddrive
[20:33] <coz_> Thunder_Drop,  oh I see...mmm.... you might want to try  #nvidia  or maybe ##linux channel for a more indepth explanation  if they answer in either channel
[20:33] <mro> mrc if i set the specified raid-controller to "activate" it tries ti search for an array which apparently isn't there because i do not want to use raid
[20:33] <songer> daftykins, yes the nvidia one
[20:33] <coz_> I am going for a break    be back in a bitr
[20:34] <mcr_> mro: did you check if the drive was under disk utility?
[20:34] <flavio> ola
[20:34] <flavio> ola
[20:34] <flavio> oi
[20:35] <flavio> oi
[20:35] <Timmymayes> can i use 3 monitors by engaging my onboard graphics in addition to a dual head card?
[20:35] <tiina> osaako kukaan autaa
[20:35] <hadees> how do you install a specific version? i'm following a guide and it says i need libdirectfb-1.0-0, liblzo1 and libkrb53
[20:35] <tiina> Can anyone help me?
[20:35] <mro> mcr_ it isn't can't see it at all
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> !ask | tiina
[20:35] <daftykins> songer ok run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and see if it fixes the settings
[20:35] <oCean_> !es | flavio
[20:35] <mro> try playing with bios again
[20:35] <saketh> hello
[20:36] <tiina> hello
[20:36] <saketh> is it possible to install 32 bit packages in ubuntu karmic 64 bit?
[20:36] <flavio> hello
[20:36] <comuna> hola
[20:36] <daftykins> mro what settings does your BIOS have for your SATA ports? it's possible they're in RAID mode and you don't want them to be or something?
[20:36] <comuna> tengo una duda y me gustari a
[20:36] <comuna> a
[20:36] <daftykins> saketh i think you can force it but usually it moans saying they're incompatible
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !es |  flavio
[20:36] <daftykins> someone else is bound to know more
[20:36] <comuna> saber si alguien que sea tan amable me lo puede solucionar
[20:36] <flavio> ??
[20:37] <saketh> ok thanx daftykins
[20:37] <DasEi> saketh: yes, there was that trick for the libs.. used it once for zattoo
[20:37] <sebsebseb> !pt
[20:37] <gfg> lol daftykins
[20:37] <saketh> ok
[20:37] <saketh> thanx
[20:37] <AegNuddel> I once had a computer where I could use stereo mix--all my subsequent ones I have not been able to including this one and it has ubuntu 9.10!  Is there any way to enable it?
[20:37] <flavio> hum
[20:38] <saketh> also, is the bios of a computer stored in its hard disk?
[20:38] <LjL> saketh: no, there's special memory for storing it.
[20:38] <daftykins> no saketh
[20:38] <saketh> LjL thank
[20:38] <saketh> LjL thanx
[20:38] <saketh> daftykins thanks
[20:38] <daftykins> although on incredibly old compaq computers, the setup program itself *was* on the HDD
[20:39] <daftykins> but we're taking original pentiums kind of era :)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> saketh: no its on the motherboard
[20:39] <SwedeMike> daftykins: that's quite common still, actually, to have a separate setup partition for different things, like factory restore etc
[20:39] <saketh> thanx ActionParsnip
[20:39] <daftykins> nah SwedeMike, the actual program that writes to the CMOS the settings
[20:39] <daftykins> not the OS setup
[20:40] <flavio> tem alguem ai?
[20:40] <klenwell> Hello.  My sister has asked me to install ubuntu on her old laptop.  It's a Dell Inspiron 5150, ~512k RAM, probably 5+ years old.  Which version do you recommend?  I have disks for 5.10, 7.10, or could dl the latest. Thx.
[20:40] <DasEi> saketh: getlibs it was
[20:40] <SwedeMike> klenwell: I'd recommend 9.04
[20:40] <sebsebseb> klenwell: 9.04 or 9.10,   and 5.10 and 7.10 are no longer supported
[20:40] <daftykins> i'm on a 2.8GHz Pentium 4 Dell inspiron 5160 with 512MB RAM with karmic right now klenwell :)
[20:40] <AegNuddel> I once had a computer where I could use stereo mix (Running Windows then) --all my subsequent ones I have not been able to including this one and it has ubuntu 9.10!  Is there any way to enable it?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> klenwell: will run ubuntu if you wish, you cna install xubuntu for a more responsive system
[20:41] <SwedeMike> AegNuddel: unless you specify what "stereo mix" is, I don't think anyone will be able to answer.
[20:41] <sebsebseb> klenwell: put 9.10 on, if you get loads of problems that you can't solve, you could try 9.04
[20:41] <AegNuddel> Recording sound that the computer is playing
[20:41] <AegNuddel> Also called "what u hear" in some cases
[20:41] <sebsebseb> klenwell: How much RAM does the computer have?
[20:41] <SwedeMike> klenwell: guess he means 512 megs of ram, not 512k
[20:42] <klenwell> Thx for suggestions.  I suggest 5.10 because I had some issue when I tried to install the latest on an old laptop of mine last year and ended up installing 5.10 and upgrading from that.  (Yes, 512MB!)
[20:42] <sebsebseb> klenwell: no don't put 5.10 on
[20:42] <flavio> ola
[20:42] <songer> daftykins: does not happen something
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> klenwell: i only have 1 system of 4 with more then 512Mb ram
[20:42] <sebsebseb> klenwell: if you want a version that is quite a lot older now and still supported, 8.04
[20:42] <mbeierl1> what happened to all the log bots?
[20:42] <SwedeMike> klenwell: your options are either 8.04 LTS or 9.04 or 9.10 to get something that'll have any decent support.
[20:43] <sebsebseb> klenwell: which is also the current LTS untill 10.04 comes out
[20:43] <gasull> Hi.  I don't see gamepad in lsmod, but I do see /dev/input/js0.  Is it wrong?  I can't get my Logitech gamepad to work.  Thanks.
[20:43] <daftykins> songer are you in terminal in a livecd right now or on the actual install and X is broken?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> klenwell: download hardy or newer for fullsupport, older releases arent supported
[20:43] <DasEi> klenwell: I recently installe karmic on a 430 PII (Celeron!), 256 meg
[20:43] <sebsebseb> klenwell: 8.10 is also an option, but that will run out of support when 10.04 comes out basicalley
[20:43] <manug> My external (VGA attached) monitor works but the colors look strange. Is there a way to see if I am using 24-bit color?
[20:44] <klenwell> ok, i'm going to dl 8.04 LTS and give it a try.  Will probably return with some questions later.  Thanks!
[20:44] <Neremor> hello!
[20:44] <AegNuddel> I once had a computer where I could use stereo mix -- where you can record the sound the computer is currently playing (Running Windows then) --all my subsequent ones I have not been able to including this one and it has ubuntu 9.10!  Is there any way to enable it?
[20:44] <sebsebseb> klenwell: get the torrent or the ISO and then md5sum/sha1sum before burning :)
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> manug: you can read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:44] <sebsebseb> klenwell: to make sure you got a good ISO
[20:44] <DasEi> klenwell: the specs are fine for jaunty,karmic
[20:44] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  klenwell
[20:44] <g__> hi, what can i use to show a movie in a small window that stays on top, like windows movie player
[20:44] <SwedeMike> I have high hopes for 10.04 LTS, with 2.6.32 there is high hopes it'll be a stable and useful platform (quite a lot of nice things in 2.6.32 connected to raid5/6)
[20:44] <DasEi> g__: vlc
[20:44] <cached> the online of desciption of flpsed says "Added lines can later be  re-edited with flpsed. " however, i can't find out how to edit a line that i added. can anyone tell me what to do?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> !player | g__
[20:45] <Neremor> I'm currently trying to setup NoteEdit with fluidsynth. Everything is working now, but the sound stutters a bit. I'm using pulseaudio as sound server and Qsynth to setup fluidsynth... Thanks in advance :)
[20:45] <sebsebseb> klenwell: if you do the torrent, you won't need to md5sum/sha1sum it, as long as all your torrent has downloaded
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> gah
[20:45] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: @ what?
[20:45] <DasEi> sebsebseb: depending on clent, always  safer
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: poor factoid
[20:45] <deokanon> can anyone tell when i try to enter the following command sudo chroot "directory" su, it returns this prompt "chroot:cannot run command 'su': no such file or directory"
[20:45] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: for md5sum you mean?
[20:45] <deokanon> what can i do to get rid of it?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> g__: mplayer, vlc, dragon, kafeine, totem
[20:46] <manug> ActionJacks_, thanks -- what should i be looking for in the log?
[20:46] <g__> oh didn't know vlc can stay on top like that
[20:46] <sshc> klenwell: I wouldn't look at older versions for better performance
[20:46] <g__> couldn't get mplayer to stop on top
[20:46] <deokanon> sorry i'm a big noob
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> manug: the colour depth, as you said. its very readable
[20:46] <tiina> Could someone put PM and help me
[20:46] <DasEi> deokanon: cut the "su"
[20:46] <sebsebseb> tiina: What do you want help with?
[20:46] <g__> thanks guys
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> g__: install smplay or gmplayer, you will get pretty uttons to click
[20:47] <deokanon> if i do that it returns ="chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash;" no such file or directory"
[20:47] <tiina> wait
[20:47] <DasEi> deokanon: like sudo chroot /dev/sdb1
[20:47] <tiina> I know how to go channel but there isn't anyone
[20:48] <tiina> why
[20:48] <DasEi> deokanon: like sudo chroot have to mount it to a dir first
[20:48] <sebsebseb> tiina: which channel?
[20:48] <tiina> anyone
[20:48] <ejcweb> I have installed Ubuntu on my Dell laptop, and it seems to work fine. However, the laptop fan is now permanently on (making quite a noise) as compared with fairly un-noticeable fan usage when I boot into Windows. Is there something wrong?
[20:48] <tiina> I write here /join #channelname
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> tiina: no one will PM you, ask in the channel
[20:48] <tiina> and there is only my name
[20:49] <tiina> I'm too stupid for that, sorry
[20:49] <DasEi> !pm | deokanon
[20:49] <songer> ok, to get in my ubuntu i did restart and then unplug my monitor
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> ejcweb: websearch for the model in conjuction with ubuntu, there may be a bug report or guide
[20:49] <sebsebseb> tiina: Which channel?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> tiina: whats up with your system?
[20:49] <AegNuddel> No one can help me?  I specified what stereo mix or what-u-hear is
[20:50] <tiina> but here come so much text that I go crazy!!!
[20:50] <dAlfa89_> tiina, did the channel exist before you entered it? Try joining a channel from the channel list, rather than guessing one
[20:50] <DasEi>  deokanon : though you did : sudo chroot /mnt/repair  ?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> tiina: yep, thats why we use tyour name and it highlights the text
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> tiina:  if you join (create) a new channel - then you will be the only one in there. :)
[20:50] <trism> amites: it appears setting gemhome: /path/to/some/location in /etc/gemrc will set the executable directory to /path/to/some/location/bin (from http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/11#page54)
[20:50] <songer> daftykings
[20:50] <tiina> this is just fuckin for me
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | tiina
[20:50] <amites> trism: thank you
[20:50] <dAlfa89_> !language | tiina
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> tiina:  on irc it pays to be patient, specific, and exacting in whaat your problem is..
[20:51] <sebsebseb> tiina: yes this channel can be a bit  unhelpful for new users,  well maybe I can help in pm with whatever it is, let's find out
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> tiina: you can sit and expect someone to ask in a PM which will never happen, or you can ask in here and an answer may be given. Your choice
[20:51] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I don't know if you're still here. But I have checked the BIOS and saw nothing to do with my PCI Sound card. This is frustrating me :(
[20:51] <DasEi> deokanon: please stop pm'ing me, as I want to follow here
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: her issue might not be Ubuntu related so pm might acstauly be better I don't know yet
[20:52] <jelari> hi all, i have upgraded from 9.04 to  9.10, my machine became dead slow. if i launch fire fox, then machine is pretty slow. Any guidance please ?
[20:52] <Flannel> tiina: What's your question?
[20:52] <psd_steve> strangest thing, all was working perfectly and ubuntu disabled my sound
[20:52] <DasEi> deokanon: you mounted the drive before I assume ?
[20:52] <deokanon> yep
[20:52] <Dead_Link> test
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: should still askthen channel instead of expecting a PM, may help others
[20:52] <jelari> hi all, i have upgraded from 9.04 to  9.10, my machine became dead slow. if i launch fire fox, then machine is pretty slow. Any guidance please ? i used apt-get upgrade.
[20:52] <deokanon> dasei: yep
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well yeah
[20:52] <DasEi> n00byLubey: no, but disable onboard if theres any
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ,but it seems they just wanted help in joining some channel, but which channel, no idea
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: hence my intollerance of folks expecting PMs
[20:53] <n00byLubey> DasEi: I did that.
[20:53] <psd_steve> anyone a sound guru?
[20:53] <pookiewookie> how can i set environment variable for root? I do some thing like: "sudo export PATH=$PATH:/opt/foo/bar" and i get "command not found" error
[20:53] <DasEi> n00byLubey: click the volume button (the speaker icon)
[20:53] <babi_> join #ubuntugames
[20:53] <deokanon> DasEi: heres what i did
[20:53] <n00byLubey> DasEi: It's Max.
[20:53] <almigi> jelari: did you do an upgrade or a clean install?
[20:53] <Flannel> pookiewookie: permanently or temporarily?
[20:53] <psd_steve> good idea however that is not the problem
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> !sound | psd_steve
[20:53] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yep they are just trying to join some channel, that's all it is
[20:53] <jelari> almigi,  i did upgrade,
[20:53] <BluesKaj> jelari, use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to karmic
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> pookiewookie:  you dont do sudo that way with export. You might want to edit /root/.bashrc or .bash_profile or .profile
[20:54] <DasEi> n00byLubey: right click it
[20:54] <DasEi> preferences
[20:54] <duffydack> the !sound trigger really needs updating...lol
[20:54] <jelari> BluesKaj,  what is that command  i didnot get ?
[20:54] <pookiewookie> Flannel: temporary would be fine, tho if i can set it permanently it would be better
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: same applies
[20:54] <jelari> BluesKaj,  i have upgraded already. but the machine is damn slow.
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> duffydack: change it then, you can teach ubottu
[20:54] <deokanon> DasEi: loaded ubuntu with livecd, 1)mkdir /mnt/repair 2)mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/repair 3) chroot /mnt/repair su ... returned the error prompt
[20:54] <almigi> jelari: well, you can try BluesKaj advice, or you can join the millions of happy users who only do clean installs. I know upgrades should work, but the success rate isn't 100%
[20:55] <BluesKaj> jelari, do-release-upgrade
[20:55] <amites> trism: for reference: I uninstalled the package-manager haml and re-installed the gem - then added a couple aliases to ~/.bashrc to execute the gems directly inside the .gem/bin dir - working like a charm
[20:55] <DasEi> deokanon: no su in the end